Whatever Podcast - Dating Talk #83

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00:03:05.820 we're going to have the guests introduce themselves, so please tell us your name, age,

00:03:09.460 occupation, and where you're from. Go ahead. My name's Grace. I'm 29. I do social media,

00:03:16.540 and I do comedy as well, and I'm from Los Angeles. You do comedy? Yes, I do. What? You might see some

00:03:25.640 today, actually. I suspect we will. Do you do stand-up comedy? You do skits? I do stand-up. I've been,

00:03:31.960 like, a little closer to my case. Oh, I do stand-up. I've been dabbling in skits

00:03:36.540 lately, too. Okay. Like, anything comedy, I'm pretty much into. Is that like, is that like TikTok

00:03:42.240 stuff, or? Yeah, I do be funny on TikTok, but I would say my main, like, comedy expression

00:03:50.160 is doing stand-up. Okay. You do be funny on TikTok. Yeah. Okay. If I don't laugh, I'm going

00:03:57.520 to be very mad by the end of this, okay? Yes, you have to make him laugh. You need to make me laugh.

00:04:01.520 He's laughing before this. He's laughing on the inside. That was off the record? Off the record.

00:04:06.880 Off the record laughing. Off the record. Okay. Starting now. He may or may not have been laughing

00:04:10.880 before this. And you said you do social media. Do you do, do you have, do you do any adult content,

00:04:16.040 or is it? Yes, I do OnlyFans. Okay, gotcha. What about you? My name is Ria. I am 21 years old. I'm

00:04:23.840 originally from the Philippines, but I've been in LA for about 11 years now, and I work as a recovery

00:04:30.440 counselor for a psychiatric facility, and I'm also an office assistant for a clothing brand.

00:04:36.540 Okay, gotcha. What, what got you into the working at the, uh, you said it was a recovery facility.

00:04:41.300 What got you into that? Um, well, I personally used to struggle with my mental health, and if it

00:04:46.360 weren't for certain people, I wouldn't be where I am today, so I kind of just wanted to give back to my

00:04:51.060 community. Gotcha. Yeah. Um, what, if you don't mind us asking, what, was there anything in specific,

00:04:56.740 or, like, is it, like, crisis intervention type stuff, or more, like, low-key type mental health

00:05:02.840 services, or? It's a residential facility, so it's basically a voluntary psych ward. Voluntary psych

00:05:09.440 ward. Yeah, like, there's no, like, 5150 holds. Like, if you're having a mental health crisis, you can,

00:05:14.020 um, turn yourself into the ER, and you can get referred to my facility. So you could voluntarily

00:05:19.280 go there directly, or do you have to go to the ER first, and then they would refer you, or? Yeah,

00:05:24.140 you have to go to the ER first. You need a referral. Okay. Gotcha. Okay, interesting. All right,

00:05:29.620 uh, what about you? Hi, my name is Lexi. I'm 24 years old. I'm from Pennsylvania, and, um, I model

00:05:37.280 online and also in real life. Okay, what do you mean you model online? OnlyFans. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha.

00:05:44.340 OnlyFans model. Gotcha. Yes. Uh, what about you? Hi, my name is Case. I am 19. I'm from San Diego,

00:05:51.000 and I'm a student at UC Santa Barbara. My major is Psychological and Brain Sciences. Ooh, fancy. Okay,

00:05:58.320 very cool. What about you? Uh, my name's Armani. I am 18, and I'm from a small town, like, outside of

00:06:05.020 Sacramento, down that way. And then I go, I'm a student at the Community College. CC, Santa Barbara

00:06:11.400 City College. Okay. Yeah, the Community College, and I'm a Nursing Major. Nursing Major, and you two are

00:06:15.520 friends, correct? Yeah, we're roommates. Yeah. Oh, you're housemates, but you go to CC, and she goes to UCSB. Yeah.

00:06:20.380 I commute, like, about 10 minutes. Okay. Did you guys know each other from back home, or? No. Actually,

00:06:24.940 I met her through one of my hometown friends. Tinder? Oh, okay. Oh, okay. She's actually my

00:06:29.120 Tinder date. Guys, I'm just kidding. Christian Mingle? Farmers only? Uh-huh. Okay. All the above?

00:06:35.200 I basically met her through one of my hometown, like, besties. Yeah. She was her roommate in the

00:06:40.560 dorms. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. And, sorry, did you say what you're studying at Santa Barbara City

00:06:45.100 College? Uh, yeah, Nursing. Nursing. That's right. That's right. Cool. Welcome. What about you?

00:06:48.980 Hi, my name is Gia Chacon. I'm 26 years old. I am from Orange County, California, and I'm the

00:06:56.220 founder of For the Martyrs, which is a non-profit organization advocating for victims of Christian

00:07:02.100 persecution. Advocating for victims of Christian persecution. What is Christian persecution?

00:07:10.540 So, it's the persecution of Christians solely because of their beliefs. Oh, so would this be,

00:07:15.800 this is predominantly people who are overseas, I imagine, like, in other countries? Definitely.

00:07:19.900 Yeah, actually. So, some statistics, one-third of the world faces religious oppression, and an

00:07:25.100 overwhelming 80% of the oppressed are Christians. So, we're talking about Christians in the Middle East.

00:07:29.900 I'm sure everybody knew what was happening, or at least watched the news at some point when ISIS was

00:07:35.780 campaigning a war on Christians in the Middle East, and we saw an 80% decrease in the Christian

00:07:42.740 population in just one generation. So, it's just an example of some of cases of persecution of

00:07:49.920 Christians. Is that because they fled the area, or because they were killed? It's both, but there was

00:07:54.540 a genocide of Christians, both in Iraq and Syria, and actually, right now, there's a genocide of

00:08:00.260 Christians happening in Nigeria, believe it or not. In just one year, we had over 2,500 Christians that

00:08:06.740 were killed because of their beliefs. Damn, is there, what's going on? Is there anything, like,

00:08:12.200 in South America going on, or is it pretty chill there? Actually, yeah, believe it or not. Oh, shit.

00:08:15.920 Yeah, so. Everywhere? Not everywhere, but, first of all, communism is on the rise in South America,

00:08:22.340 and under communist governments, religious people suffer. So, any people of faith are suffering under

00:08:28.220 a communist government. It's the same in China. But right now, in Nicaragua, actually,

00:08:32.520 they're imprisoning priests and pastors for refusing to shut down their churches. And Mexico,

00:08:39.840 which is not quite South America, but in Mexico, priests are being killed because of the cartel.

00:08:44.940 So, we're seeing, like, an increase of priests being murdered because they're a threat to the

00:08:49.720 power of the cartel. So, it's really a global issue, and it continues to increase every year.

00:08:55.080 Oh, shit. Yo, Adam Barnett, thank you for the 20 gifted memberships. Thank you very much. Did you

00:09:01.240 have something, or? Nope. Oh, you're just finger gunning. And so, do you, do you, like, you go into

00:09:07.620 these countries, and you try to get them out, or how, like, what, what are you guys advocating?

00:09:11.240 So, we do a couple things. Yeah, so, first of all, we try to meet the immediate needs of Christians

00:09:16.740 who are suffering. So, we've done on-the-ground work in Jordan with the Iraqi and Syrian refugees.

00:09:22.980 In 2020, when there was the major war that happened between Azerbaijan and Armenia, we brought

00:09:28.220 crisis relief to internally displaced Christians. I was in Iraq in 2022. I brought humanitarian aid

00:09:36.980 to internally displaced Christians in Erbil. So, a lot of work in the Middle East.

00:09:41.600 Got it. Okay. Madison, what about you?

00:09:44.980 My name is Madison. I'm 18 years old. I'm currently a student at Santa Barbara City College studying

00:09:51.200 Econ and Accounting. I work for the Whatever Podcast. I'm a host at a bar, and, yeah, that's all.

00:10:00.220 Okay. Cool.

00:10:02.620 My name is Matt, or Stay Safe TV Online. I'm a Twitch streamer and YouTuber, and I'm also

00:10:08.040 the owner of the Business Power Gum, which is a caffeinated chewing gum.

00:10:11.260 Yes, and by the way, welcome back, Matt. Back by popular demand, I think. Matt was on Dating

00:10:19.240 Talk number 79, and we saw you guys in the comments.

00:10:23.380 That was a wild one.

00:10:24.500 That was a wild show, and a lot of people were like, you got to bring Matt back. And it

00:10:31.520 was unfortunate, too, because there was a little situation in that episode. So, unfortunately,

00:10:35.680 we didn't get to cover as many topics as we would have liked to during that show, but

00:10:39.380 Matt is back.

00:10:41.080 No situations today. No crazy situations today.

00:10:43.740 Yeah, no crazy situations today. Let's keep it tame.

00:10:46.120 Yeah, but Matt's a friend of the podcast. He's come all the way from Washington to be

00:10:50.320 here. Awesome guy. Great guy. By the way, he's a Chad female gnome warlock in World of

00:10:55.860 Warcraft. You can catch him streaming twitch.tv slash stay safetv, correct?

00:11:00.940 And he streams World of Warcraft, some other stuff. He's about to embark on the hardcore

00:11:06.740 servers here pretty soon.

00:11:08.920 They're coming out soon.

00:11:09.940 They're coming out soon. Just a quick note on PowerGum. Last time Matt was here, he

00:11:13.620 graciously left the team some boxes of PowerGum. So, we've been nomming on it, and we're happy

00:11:24.960 to do a little promo. You can use code whatever at PowerGum, or excuse me, Power-Gum.com to

00:11:32.780 get 10% off. Basically, it's a caffeinated gum. It's what, 50 milligrams of caffeine, right?

00:11:37.740 Yep. There's a bunch of vitamins, vitamin D, vitamin B. It's super convenient. It fits

00:11:42.000 in your pocket. So, I mean, I would say just stop wasting your money on Starbucks. They

00:11:46.320 dump a bunch of sugar in that crap. And I'm not even a coffee drinker, and I've been having

00:11:51.080 no caffeine. I don't really drink energy drinks. Don't drink coffee. I've been having one or two

00:11:56.100 of these a day just as a little pick-me-up. And it's definitely been super helpful with

00:12:00.680 work and energy levels. So, yeah. I don't know if you wanted to tell us a little more about it.

00:12:05.280 Yeah, it's convenient. Really, I mean, I go to the gym every day. I have been playing video games

00:12:10.620 all day every day for the last five years as a Twitch streamer. And I tried all the caffeine

00:12:14.420 products, all the drinks, the powders, the pills. And I'm like, all of these suck. They're all

00:12:19.780 terrible. So, I figured I'd try to make something new. And so, I made PowerGum, which is just a

00:12:23.680 caffeinated chewing gum. But it's really, really, really good. We've been in business for about

00:12:27.520 two years. We've sold just about, well, I think as of like a week ago, we've sold 10,000 boxes

00:12:32.620 of PowerGum over the last two years. We ship internationally. Over 50% of people that buy

00:12:38.860 one box of PowerGum, they come back and buy a second box. Wow. That's like a, that's a better

00:12:42.960 return customer rate. That is a testament. That's, that's a better returning customer rate than like

00:12:46.860 a crack dealer. Okay. It's good. Not that this is as bad. Listen, okay. Maybe that's the wrong way

00:12:51.740 to put it, but people like it. Okay. The point is, it's a good product. So, if you buy it, I think

00:12:55.880 you'll like it. Use code whatever, 10% off. There you go. Yeah, there you go. There you go. And there you go.

00:13:00.980 I was going to say one other thing about it, but it slipped my mind.

00:13:09.260 You've got to get gum on it. If you can chew it, you can do it. Boom. That's what I say.

00:13:12.400 If you can chew it, you can do it. There you go. In any case, so we are going to go around the table

00:13:19.320 and get everyone's current relationship status. So,

00:13:22.560 Brian, before you do that, it won't let me show the super chest. If I click show.

00:13:29.180 Oh. Wait.

00:13:34.740 That's weird.

00:13:38.500 Sorry, guys. We're having a little technical issue. However, I'll go adjust that really quick.

00:13:43.460 So, we're going to go around the table. What's your current relationship status? So,

00:13:47.180 are you single, friends with benefits, talking stage, situationship, relationship? If you

00:13:52.460 are single, how long have you been single? And also, what's just your longest relationship

00:13:56.220 you've ever had? And let's start with you. Go ahead.

00:13:59.340 Okay. I'm single right now. I would say I'm like an ex-serial monogamist. I was in like

00:14:06.460 multiple serious relationships back to back. The longest one was four years. And two of

00:14:13.780 them were in different countries. So, they were long distance. Yeah. How long ago was

00:14:21.340 that? About four years. Where were those guys living? Actually, no. I'm lying. Three years.

00:14:28.460 England. I dated a guy who was in the military. And he was English. And then I dated a Parisian

00:14:38.380 man, too. Was it hard during long distance? It was difficult, but I feel like there was

00:14:46.500 a lot of good things about it. It was actually probably one of the best relationships I ever

00:14:52.780 had. We cherished our moments together more. We got to know each other way more. And when

00:14:58.240 we would see each other, we would do stuff because we hadn't seen each other in a while.

00:15:02.920 How often?

00:15:03.820 Distance made you closer. Yeah. But it can get hard. Like in the end, I think that's why we

00:15:08.660 split up because you can only do that for so long. It starts to feel like a chore, like

00:15:13.420 texting every day. How often would you guys like see each other throughout your relationship?

00:15:18.760 So, because he was in the military, he had specific times off. So, like we would always,

00:15:25.060 I would spend about a month there at Christmas. We would go back and forth. He would see me

00:15:30.640 and then I would see him. So, it was like very planned out because he had specific time off.

00:15:36.520 So, it would be like two weeks and then two weeks. The longest would be about a month.

00:15:41.580 And you guys were monogamous when you were, even when you were apart?

00:15:44.100 Yes. Okay. So, you're single, correct?

00:15:48.080 Yes, I am.

00:15:49.220 Okay. Wait, yeah. What about the well?

00:15:51.360 Yeah, yeah. She was about to say something.

00:15:52.720 So, towards the end, I was like, we were having problems and I was like, we should be in an open

00:15:57.740 relationship.

00:15:58.980 You suggested that?

00:15:59.920 Yes.

00:16:00.280 Okay.

00:16:00.520 I also had like a friend who was like very into that. So, I think she kind of like planted the

00:16:05.760 seed in my head a little bit. So, I told him that and he was like, no, no for months. And then

00:16:13.460 finally, he was like, okay, we can try it. And he ended up being with someone else and I didn't.

00:16:19.200 Oh, wow.

00:16:19.900 I'm sorry.

00:16:20.200 But I was like, you know.

00:16:22.300 Yeah.

00:16:22.980 I couldn't be that mad.

00:16:24.920 So, how long have you been single?

00:16:27.480 About two years.

00:16:28.360 Two years. Okay. And you said your longest relationship was what?

00:16:32.420 Four years.

00:16:33.120 Four years. Okay. Gotcha.

00:16:35.120 I've had like other like two year, three year relationships too though.

00:16:39.460 Okay. What about you?

00:16:41.160 I'm single. I've been single for a day and my longest relationship was a year and a half.

00:16:47.560 Wait, you've been single for one day?

00:16:49.680 Yeah. Like, I don't know who runs the Instagram account, but when I responded to the questions,

00:16:54.460 I had only been single for like two minutes.

00:16:56.740 Oh, wow. Holy. Okay. Wait. So, okay. And how long was the relationship that just ended?

00:17:04.420 Like two months.

00:17:05.580 Okay. Two months. And was that your longest relationship or?

00:17:08.320 No, my longest relationship is a year and a half. Who ended it?

00:17:11.520 I did. Yeah.

00:17:13.500 The longest relationship or the most recent relationship?

00:17:16.200 Both.

00:17:17.140 Both. Okay. You're a heartbreaker then.

00:17:18.900 I wouldn't say that.

00:17:21.180 So, one day ago, by the way, how long were you dating said person? Man, woman?

00:17:28.860 The person I just broke up with?

00:17:30.460 Yeah.

00:17:31.120 We were dating for about two months.

00:17:33.400 Okay.

00:17:33.580 I mean, we were official for a month, but seeing each other for two months total.

00:17:37.120 Okay. Man, woman?

00:17:39.080 Yeah.

00:17:39.280 Why did you dump said person?

00:17:45.060 Several reasons. We kind of just had different expectations from each other in a relationship.

00:17:52.240 Like the more our relationship progressed, we just, or I just realized that we weren't too compatible.

00:17:59.560 I'm scared to say too much because he watches this. So, hey, yeah.

00:18:03.500 Do you want to wave to him into this camera and just be like, hey, is he upset about the breakup or?

00:18:13.160 Yeah. He's very, well, no, I'm not going to say that.

00:18:15.880 Oh, okay.

00:18:16.280 Yeah. Maybe a little bit.

00:18:17.540 He's moved on. He's good.

00:18:18.800 Yeah, maybe.

00:18:19.040 He's good.

00:18:19.580 I think so. Maybe.

00:18:20.920 Okay. We should have had him come on and then you guys could have worked it out or.

00:18:25.200 That would have been funny.

00:18:26.200 Figured out all the. Okay. What about you? What's your situation?

00:18:30.160 I am single. I've been in one relationship my whole life and that was, it lasted two years.

00:18:39.560 And that was between, I was 17 to 19. So, now it's been like five years I've been single.

00:18:45.820 Five years single. Okay. I mean, in that five-year period, what would you say is like the longest period of time that you've been seeing somebody?

00:18:53.920 Maybe you haven't had a boyfriend, but maybe there was a three-month fling or something.

00:18:57.520 Yeah. I've had a few like situationships, but they've never progressed. I'm actually somewhat in one right now, but.

00:19:10.800 In the situationship?

00:19:11.780 Yeah. I mean, I feel like it's important to get to know someone before you date them. So, that's kind of where that's at right now. So, yeah, we're just, you know, getting to know each other.

00:19:24.280 Is there just one situationship?

00:19:25.520 Yeah. I'm always exclusive. You know, I'm never going to like talk to more than one person at a time. And if, you know, for any reason, like I were to, I would let the other person know. Like, you know, that's what I'm doing.

00:19:41.580 Is the guy that you're seeing, is he exclusive to you right now?

00:19:44.820 Yes. As far as I know. Yeah. And, you know, he does seem very honest with me. So, I do appreciate that. So, I think we're honest with each other.

00:19:55.180 Is it really a situationship? I mean, you're both exclusive to each other. You've been seeing each other for what, two months?

00:20:00.400 Yes. That's a good question. And I have definitely brought that up to him as well. I was like, what are we doing? Is this going to, you know, turn into anything? So, it's just, you know, it's just one of those things. People are complicated and relationships are complicated.

00:20:15.960 So, you want it to be something more than it is right now?

00:20:20.420 Yes, I do. But I'm also not going to wait forever.

00:20:26.580 What do you think his holdback is?

00:20:29.000 I kind of think the same thing. He just wants to get to know me as a person and like see, you know, the different sides of me, which I would like to do that as well.

00:20:39.460 I don't know. It does feel like a relationship. So, I guess, I don't know. It's like, there's just no title.

00:20:48.840 When you're in the situationship, you don't have like an active Tinder account or anything like that. You're totally locked down.

00:20:54.220 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:20:56.180 Yeah. Okay.

00:20:56.500 So, he doesn't have any dating apps either. You know, he deleted his as well.

00:21:01.380 Sounds like you're dating then. That's what it sounds like to me.

00:21:04.820 It does. But then, like, why don't we have a title, you know?

00:21:08.040 Wait, did you ask for a title?

00:21:09.860 I did. Yeah.

00:21:10.800 And what did he say?

00:21:12.480 He said just that, like, he'd like to get to know me more first.

00:21:17.220 So, we've been talking for about three months now. So, I kind of understand that. I think it is early.

00:21:25.640 Is it though? Is it? You know? You know what I mean?

00:21:30.460 But how much longer are you willing to wait before you get that figured out?

00:21:34.940 I actually just called it off this morning.

00:21:36.800 Oh. So, you're not in this situation, too.

00:21:40.800 I guess not.

00:21:41.220 Or is it? Maybe it's going to be on again, off again.

00:21:43.260 I hope not.

00:21:44.360 You called it off this morning.

00:21:45.280 I did. Yeah.

00:21:46.240 How did you do it?

00:21:47.080 I just said, like, you know, I don't see it going anywhere if it's not gone anywhere this far.

00:21:54.340 And he said, like, what is the reason? You know, like, why do you want to stop talking?

00:22:00.920 And I said, you know, I just feel like we should take things more serious or, you know, like, I don't know.

00:22:08.040 I just kind of wanted a title, I guess.

00:22:10.620 But at the same time, it's like, what would change if we did have a title?

00:22:13.760 I'm not really too sure.

00:22:15.000 So.

00:22:16.020 Yeah.

00:22:16.560 Well, I mean, you would know he wants you more, I guess, right?

00:22:18.660 I think I was looking for, like, a little bit of, like, reassurance.

00:22:21.740 That's probably what I was looking for.

00:22:23.960 Well, I think this is what was in Brian's head.

00:22:25.780 And this is, like, I think this is the male point of view.

00:22:27.840 If he hasn't given that title after three months, he's just kind of having fun with you, probably.

00:22:33.820 And that's what I realized as well.

00:22:37.940 That's kind of my thinking too.

00:22:39.400 So.

00:22:41.360 The Merovingian donated $100.

00:22:45.360 I have sampled every language.

00:22:47.680 French is my favorite.

00:22:49.460 Fantastic language.

00:22:51.360 Especially to curse with.

00:22:53.240 Nom de dieu de puton de bordel de mer de salepere de conne de kildetar mer.

00:22:58.620 It's like wiping your ass with silk.

00:23:01.340 I love it.

00:23:02.000 Okay, that's.

00:23:03.820 There's someone who's just, like, dropping, like, hundreds of dollars every stream to leave, like, movie quotes.

00:23:10.140 That's the Merovingian.

00:23:10.560 That's from The Matrix.

00:23:11.760 Part of The Matrix.

00:23:12.460 Not the first one, though.

00:23:13.220 It's from the.

00:23:14.180 Chad, is it The Matrix from the second one or the third one?

00:23:17.660 Yeah, because he makes his first.

00:23:19.140 The Merovingian makes his first appearance.

00:23:20.960 Yeah.

00:23:21.500 In any case, thank you, the Merovingian.

00:23:24.540 And that's someone who speaks French.

00:23:26.780 That was beautiful.

00:23:27.460 Okay.

00:23:28.360 Moving on.

00:23:28.920 What about you?

00:23:29.840 Relationship situations?

00:23:31.500 Yeah.

00:23:32.000 I'm in a relationship.

00:23:33.700 Okay.

00:23:34.000 I've been in a relationship for two years.

00:23:35.900 Two years.

00:23:36.280 Okay.

00:23:37.120 We started dating in high school, and I've known him since middle school.

00:23:41.320 Since how?

00:23:42.080 When?

00:23:42.460 Middle school.

00:23:43.320 Middle school.

00:23:43.880 We've been friends since middle school.

00:23:45.760 Okay.

00:23:46.040 Yeah, but.

00:23:46.620 And were you guys, but you've been only dating for two years, so you guys were friends beforehand.

00:23:51.540 Okay.

00:23:51.840 Yeah.

00:23:52.320 Gotcha.

00:23:52.800 Cool, cool, cool.

00:23:53.540 Yeah.

00:23:53.820 Does he live here, or is it this long distance?

00:23:56.100 He does.

00:23:56.780 He goes to the same school as I do.

00:23:58.820 Oh, cool, cool.

00:23:59.520 So, it's pretty convenient, and it's nice.

00:24:02.080 He's great.

00:24:02.660 Good times.

00:24:03.260 Good times.

00:24:03.920 Yeah.

00:24:04.040 What about you?

00:24:05.200 Mine's a little, mine's kind of complicated.

00:24:07.440 So, I just moved here two days ago.

00:24:08.900 Oh.

00:24:09.180 Down here.

00:24:10.080 I'm from, like, Sac around that area, and, like, I've had, like, a situationship-ish for,

00:24:16.380 like, the last two years.

00:24:17.920 As, I've been single, I've actually never dated anyone, ever.

00:24:22.400 Well, you said you've had a situationship for two years, so you're kind of dating him.

00:24:26.420 He's, like, dating, but, like, not dating.

00:24:28.760 So, it, like, started as a friend.

00:24:29.680 So, it's just, like, a hookup type thing.

00:24:31.100 Well, it's weird.

00:24:31.680 So, it, like, started as, like, a friends of benefits.

00:24:33.780 Yeah.

00:24:34.000 And then it moved into, like, no, you're just my best friend.

00:24:36.800 Like, we both just kind of, like, friendzoned each other.

00:24:38.540 And then it, like, went.

00:24:40.520 But still with benefits?

00:24:41.840 No.

00:24:42.160 Were there still benefits?

00:24:42.580 Oh.

00:24:42.820 There was no benefits.

00:24:43.200 You cut off the benefits.

00:24:44.000 We, like, cut off the benefits at that point.

00:24:45.780 So, it was a two-year situationship, started as friends with benefits.

00:24:49.060 How long did the friends with benefits period last?

00:24:51.580 That was a year.

00:24:52.300 A year.

00:24:52.340 We were just, like, meh, I'm bored.

00:24:54.100 Like, okay.

00:24:55.380 Okay, we can be, uh.

00:24:56.700 Because I met him in high school.

00:24:58.000 Keep in mind that.

00:24:58.740 So, like, the last year of high school was like that.

00:25:00.600 And then outside, when high school ended for us, it was just, like, oh, we're just friends.

00:25:04.660 Friends.

00:25:05.400 And then.

00:25:06.560 But there's been some occasional.

00:25:09.540 Well, no.

00:25:10.460 There was no occasional.

00:25:11.220 It was just, like, friends.

00:25:12.380 Just, like, dropped like that.

00:25:13.760 Okay.

00:25:14.060 Because you flirt.

00:25:15.620 Oh, yeah.

00:25:16.180 Dude, I want a free date.

00:25:17.300 A free meal.

00:25:17.860 Come on.

00:25:18.500 What?

00:25:19.600 You're using him for free food?

00:25:21.780 No.

00:25:22.440 What's the audio?

00:25:22.900 Okay, keep in mind.

00:25:23.340 I paid for his food, too.

00:25:25.180 Okay.

00:25:25.640 But he's, like, a big dude.

00:25:26.900 I'm not going to pay, like, for a meal that he's probably going to finish mine.

00:25:30.180 He's obese?

00:25:30.840 So, he's spent more money on the food than you have.

00:25:32.620 Wait, hold on.

00:25:33.100 Well, he eats, like, twice.

00:25:34.320 No, no, no.

00:25:34.720 He's just, like, 6'3".

00:25:35.560 Okay.

00:25:35.880 So, he's, like, definitely eats more than me.

00:25:37.840 6'3"?

00:25:38.420 He played.

00:25:38.900 How tall are you, just out of curiosity?

00:25:40.340 1, 4, 11.

00:25:41.020 6'3", 4, 11.

00:25:42.340 Okay.

00:25:42.920 Good times.

00:25:43.100 So, he played, like, offensive line.

00:25:44.880 So, he's, like, a big dude.

00:25:45.620 Oh, he's an O-line.

00:25:46.480 We do, and so he eats a lot.

00:25:48.800 And then, I don't know.

00:25:51.200 So, like, outside high school, we just became, like, really close friends, but then it kind

00:25:53.740 of, like, transitioned into more, like, I think we like each other, but, like, nobody

00:25:57.300 ever made the first move to anything.

00:25:59.200 Right.

00:25:59.580 So, like, he literally helped me pack, like, to move and everything and, like, stayed at

00:26:03.360 my house that whole weekend and everything.

00:26:05.340 But then, like, we never became anything more.

00:26:08.480 It was just, like, oh, bye, I'm moving.

00:26:10.520 But he's still, like, one of my best friends.

00:26:11.780 So, you were friends with benefits for a year and then just friends for a year.

00:26:20.440 It was, like, just friends for the, like, probably, okay, probably about the last, it

00:26:24.300 was probably, like, six months friends and then six months, like, we're basically dating,

00:26:28.520 but, like, not dating.

00:26:30.480 So, like, occasionally hooking up, sort of, kind of?

00:26:33.860 Well, it turned into more, like, dates.

00:26:35.500 Like, hey, let's go to the movies, like, let's do this.

00:26:37.480 Oh, so then no hooking up?

00:26:40.000 Was there hooking up?

00:26:40.540 No, there was occasional hookup.

00:26:41.600 Occasional hookup.

00:26:42.320 But it wasn't, like, this first year where it was just, like, all the time.

00:26:46.440 Just nonstop.

00:26:48.020 But then also, we're, like.

00:26:49.520 Whose fault was that, do you think?

00:26:50.840 Or was it kind of a mutual?

00:26:52.120 For what?

00:26:52.640 Like, never making a part of the past?

00:26:53.300 Well, I mean, like, you guys, you said that there was the passion and then the fire.

00:26:58.360 And then a year comes around and then it kind of fizzles a little bit.

00:27:03.780 And then there was nothing.

00:27:04.980 And then it was friendly.

00:27:06.280 Okay, I feel like because he didn't.

00:27:07.780 I feel like because, um, I don't know.

00:27:09.080 So we didn't want to, like, be with each other because we were both in, like, weird times in our life.

00:27:13.740 It was, like, our last year of high school.

00:27:14.680 I was like, I'm not going to settle down for someone.

00:27:15.940 I'm going to move to college soon.

00:27:17.600 Like, why am I going to settle down?

00:27:19.160 But then I was like, oh, I'm going to take a gap year off college because, like, I'm still young.

00:27:24.020 Like, I'm 18, just starting college right now.

00:27:26.540 So I'm like, okay.

00:27:28.260 But he, in the, like, last year, I just realized, like, maybe we are just better as friends.

00:27:34.200 But, like, if he would have asked me, I probably would have said yes.

00:27:38.100 But we both were just at weird ports in our life.

00:27:40.400 When's the last time you guys hung out?

00:27:42.980 Hung out?

00:27:43.720 Well, is it long distance now?

00:27:45.060 Well, you said you just moved here two days ago.

00:27:47.860 Well, it's like, we're not dating, but it's like, I still talk to him every night.

00:27:49.380 Oh, you talk to him on the phone every night?

00:27:50.720 You call him every night?

00:27:51.700 He calls me, actually.

00:27:53.320 Oh.

00:27:53.980 He calls you.

00:27:54.600 Stop answering.

00:27:55.400 I know.

00:27:55.700 Well, he's like my, okay, but he's like my best friend.

00:27:57.180 If he wanted to, he would, ladies.

00:27:58.560 So, like.

00:27:59.020 If he's your best friend, he wants you.

00:28:01.660 But, um.

00:28:02.840 Well, I was going to say, if he hasn't made the move, then he doesn't want, he doesn't

00:28:05.700 want her, right?

00:28:06.640 But he's calling her every night, so.

00:28:08.240 Men always do what they want to do.

00:28:10.160 You just moved away.

00:28:11.640 You're at a very transitional, like, time in your life.

00:28:14.900 Even if you were to, like, get together right now, like, how would that work for you?

00:28:20.560 Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:28:21.160 I think we both know, like, we're at weird parts in our lives.

00:28:23.960 Like, he doesn't even go to school right now.

00:28:25.880 And, like, I don't know.

00:28:27.660 Just keeping in touch.

00:28:29.220 Just, like, besties.

00:28:30.600 And, like, maybe if I'm, like, single when I'm, like, 35, be like, hey.

00:28:33.960 Hey.

00:28:34.160 What are you doing?

00:28:35.020 It's okay to not know what you want.

00:28:37.180 Yeah.

00:28:37.940 He was, he definitely showed me what I need and don't need in my life.

00:28:42.420 Yeah, that's good.

00:28:42.880 Okay.

00:28:43.780 So, I mean, when's the last time that you guys in person hung out in, like, a romantic capacity?

00:28:52.760 You said you just moved here two days ago.

00:28:54.280 Do you mean, like, a date or just, like, in general?

00:28:56.300 Whatever.

00:28:57.400 Well, I mean, literally, like, two days ago.

00:28:59.560 Before you left.

00:29:00.400 He literally stayed the whole weekend at my house to help me pack and, like, clean everything.

00:29:06.400 Even though I did most of it and he just kind of watched me.

00:29:08.680 Okay.

00:29:09.180 I was kind of fake of him.

00:29:09.800 Is he seeing other girls?

00:29:13.400 Okay.

00:29:13.720 You don't know?

00:29:14.260 Well, like, we've never been, like, yes and no.

00:29:18.940 So, like, he used to, but, like, recently, like, stopped.

00:29:23.900 And he's, like, I don't think I'm really looking for anyone.

00:29:26.060 Besides you?

00:29:26.840 Well, I don't.

00:29:27.320 He never said that.

00:29:28.080 He didn't say that part.

00:29:28.900 Okay.

00:29:29.520 So, I was, like, I think we both know, but it's, like, mm.

00:29:31.620 He doesn't want to say it.

00:29:32.540 We both just don't want to admit it.

00:29:33.860 Yeah.

00:29:34.240 Okay.

00:29:35.000 And so, hold on.

00:29:39.100 Were you seeing other guys?

00:29:41.300 Oh.

00:29:42.860 I never really looked for people.

00:29:44.820 I don't look for people.

00:29:45.520 Like, I didn't look for him.

00:29:46.640 He just kind of found me.

00:29:47.960 He found me through one of his friends that I actually was, like, talking to at the time.

00:29:51.500 You mean some other guy found you?

00:29:53.260 Okay.

00:29:53.560 So, actually, weird story.

00:29:55.140 I actually met him from one of his best friends.

00:29:57.040 Who you were dating?

00:29:57.880 No.

00:29:58.320 Oh, okay.

00:29:58.780 Just, like, was talking to for, like, literally, like, a week, maybe, or two.

00:30:03.800 And then, he introduced me to him.

00:30:05.900 And he's, like, hey, here's my friend.

00:30:07.200 And, obviously, you're, like, I'm going to upgrade friends.

00:30:09.880 No offense.

00:30:11.340 Because that dude was, like, 5'7".

00:30:13.340 And, like, lower.

00:30:15.780 What?

00:30:16.380 You're 4'11", though.

00:30:17.520 How are you going to hate on a 5'7 guy?

00:30:20.000 Okay, but think about it.

00:30:20.960 5'7", verse 6'3".

00:30:22.780 Why does that matter to you?

00:30:24.960 You're 4'11".

00:30:25.780 It's fun, you know?

00:30:27.380 I don't know, 5'7 guy.

00:30:29.400 He was also way nicer.

00:30:30.420 He was more, like, a teddy bear.

00:30:33.240 You know what I mean?

00:30:33.560 Like, a big teddy bear.

00:30:34.540 Okay.

00:30:34.820 Versus, like, this random dude that pretty much probably didn't like me at all.

00:30:38.140 Okay, you're walking it back.

00:30:39.100 So, it's actually not about the height.

00:30:40.640 Well, the height was a plus.

00:30:42.980 What would you do?

00:30:45.320 If I'm trying to date a guy?

00:30:47.380 Yeah, if you were liking a guy.

00:30:49.000 I'm going to spoil this.

00:30:51.460 Don't get me wrong.

00:30:52.180 We love short kings because they're super sweet.

00:30:54.720 Do we?

00:30:54.920 Super.

00:30:55.640 Well, I do.

00:30:56.820 I like the thought of a short king.

00:31:01.160 I'm just kidding.

00:31:01.440 I have an image.

00:31:02.400 Someone's got to love the 5'7 guys, okay?

00:31:05.060 Yeah.

00:31:05.900 That's actually the lowest I would date.

00:31:07.280 And it should be the 4'11 girls.

00:31:10.380 What about the 4'10 girls?

00:31:12.320 Then they can get the 5'6 guys.

00:31:13.940 They need some love, too.

00:31:15.040 There's a link sent to the chat chats group.

00:31:16.980 Just pull up the Instagram.

00:31:18.040 Wait, so, okay, 4'11.

00:31:19.800 So, you were kind of...

00:31:21.760 Were you somewhat interested in this guy who was 5'7?

00:31:24.080 I was, but I feel like once he started liking me back, I kind of was just like, you waited

00:31:29.620 too long.

00:31:31.360 Okay.

00:31:32.000 And then he was friends with the 6'3 guy who you've been in a two-year situationship with.

00:31:37.440 Is that correct?

00:31:37.820 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

00:31:38.380 No, the first dude, eh, I was just kind of talking to him because I was bored.

00:31:41.060 But the 6'3 dude was one of his really close friends.

00:31:45.320 Okay.

00:31:45.780 Eric, do you have the image?

00:31:47.360 Yeah.

00:31:47.560 Uh-oh.

00:31:50.000 We have a meme related to this.

00:31:52.880 Oh, no.

00:31:53.800 Oh, could you...

00:31:55.000 Oh, that's fine.

00:31:56.060 Oh, no.

00:31:56.960 Sorry, I don't date guys below six feet.

00:31:59.580 That's perfect.

00:32:00.380 That's you.

00:32:00.860 I literally said 5'7.

00:32:01.460 That's actually you.

00:32:03.500 Yeah.

00:32:04.580 That's literally the height difference, too.

00:32:06.260 Damn.

00:32:06.680 Rip.

00:32:07.180 Yeah, he was 5'7 and you're 4'11, right?

00:32:09.320 Yeah, but I'm more like...

00:32:10.080 Are you sure you're not like 4'10 and a half?

00:32:12.440 Okay.

00:32:12.900 Just be honest.

00:32:13.580 Be honest with us.

00:32:14.660 It's actually 3'4s.

00:32:15.260 4'10 and 3'4s.

00:32:16.260 4'10 and 3'4s.

00:32:17.200 Bro, you can't be claiming 4'11.

00:32:19.380 You round up.

00:32:20.220 My mom will get mad at me if I say I'm 4'10.

00:32:21.120 You are misrepresenting your height.

00:32:23.140 She will literally scream at me, I have to say 4'11.

00:32:25.340 You have to...

00:32:25.720 Why?

00:32:26.360 Does that make you...

00:32:26.900 My mom gets really mad at me.

00:32:28.400 What's the...

00:32:28.840 I put it on my license that I was 4'10.

00:32:31.060 She's like, you're not that short.

00:32:33.000 How tall is your mom?

00:32:34.460 5.

00:32:35.020 She says 5'1 and a half.

00:32:36.660 Isn't that ironic?

00:32:37.280 How tall is your dad?

00:32:37.940 She's probably 5.

00:32:38.800 I think 5'9.

00:32:40.100 Okay.

00:32:41.600 Hmm.

00:32:42.140 Can I talk to the short guys?

00:32:43.360 Listen, short guys in the audience.

00:32:44.720 You are so lucky.

00:32:45.760 If you're 5'6, you're 5'7, you know any woman that's into you really loves you, okay?

00:32:51.000 They're not any of this physical bullshit.

00:32:54.520 They care about you.

00:32:55.780 It's genuine, okay?

00:32:57.500 The short guys, it's actually like sort of a built-in default vetting process that they have

00:33:02.040 with their height.

00:33:02.820 They're lucky.

00:33:03.500 Short guys are lucky.

00:33:04.540 Here's the thing, though.

00:33:05.320 Short kings are really nice.

00:33:07.200 They're really sweet, okay?

00:33:08.920 I've had a lot of short king besties that were like the nicest people I've ever met.

00:33:13.100 Like literally would get out and pump my gas before I even stopped like the car.

00:33:16.580 And I'm like, oh, you're so sweet.

00:33:19.420 Would...

00:33:19.980 But would you date a guy who's 5'7?

00:33:22.920 Yeah, I would.

00:33:23.880 As long as I'm not making eye contact with you, like eye to eye, I think you're fine.

00:33:28.240 But if you're like 5'1 and I'm literally looking at you and like I can throw you on the bed,

00:33:33.360 that's a no-go.

00:33:34.880 What if the guy is 5'1 but he makes 300 grand a year and he's jacked, he's muscular?

00:33:40.700 No, that's even worse because then he's going to look like a little like Roblox dude.

00:33:45.320 Well, I'm not saying it's a meatball.

00:33:46.660 He's got a good build.

00:33:48.340 All right.

00:33:48.720 He's a good looking guy.

00:33:49.580 No, so the height, that little is an absolute deal breaker.

00:33:52.520 I think the lowest would be 5'7.

00:33:54.680 Lowest is 5'7.

00:33:55.580 Amazing.

00:33:56.640 All right.

00:33:57.140 Good times.

00:33:58.000 Good times.

00:33:58.560 Okay, so it's complicated.

00:33:59.500 So do you think there's going to be a definitive breakup with this guy now that you've moved here

00:34:04.240 or do you think you're going to keep a long distance thing or...

00:34:07.260 I feel like if he was to get a girlfriend back like where we live, he'd probably cut me off.

00:34:12.080 Oh, and that brings me back to what I was asking previously.

00:34:14.900 I was asking if he was seeing other girls.

00:34:18.280 Oh.

00:34:19.660 Like the first year, we were both just kind of like, we can see whoever we want.

00:34:24.000 Like there's no like ties to us.

00:34:25.460 Do you know what I mean?

00:34:25.860 I was just like, oh, you're my friend.

00:34:27.000 Like I see you every now and then.

00:34:28.200 But like, I feel like the closer we got, the more end, it became more like just to us.

00:34:34.440 Gotcha.

00:34:34.940 And were you seeing other guys or were you like, what was, what were you up to?

00:34:38.580 Before it?

00:34:39.380 Yeah.

00:34:39.740 Yes.

00:34:40.080 But like in the last like six months to like a year.

00:34:44.060 Well, like I don't really like talk to people.

00:34:45.640 Like I don't go out looking for people.

00:34:47.140 I'm just doing my own thing.

00:34:48.160 Sure.

00:34:48.460 But like if someone finds me, like let's see what this goes.

00:34:51.420 Would you just like read manga?

00:34:53.360 No.

00:34:54.320 Oh, I don't know.

00:34:54.980 Like you said, you don't talk to people.

00:34:56.080 So maybe you just like stay at home and like watch anime and shit.

00:34:58.380 No, I just like work a lot.

00:34:59.920 Keep myself busy.

00:35:00.840 Okay.

00:35:01.040 Focus on myself.

00:35:02.360 But like if someone finds me randomly, I'm like, okay, that's kind of cool.

00:35:04.960 Okay.

00:35:05.920 Rock and roll.

00:35:06.840 What about you?

00:35:08.160 I'm in a serious relationship.

00:35:10.020 We've been together for seven months and my longest relationship prior to this one was

00:35:15.940 about two and a half years.

00:35:17.760 Okay, cool.

00:35:19.920 Well, how'd you meet this guy?

00:35:20.960 Cause you're kind of all over the place.

00:35:22.340 Yeah.

00:35:22.580 So we met through work actually.

00:35:23.980 Okay.

00:35:24.380 Yeah.

00:35:24.880 In Washington DC of all places.

00:35:27.020 And so is it kind of long distance depending on where you are and where he is or?

00:35:30.020 No, we, we don't live that far away from each other.

00:35:32.240 He's in California also.

00:35:33.440 Oh, okay.

00:35:33.920 Okay.

00:35:34.180 And you're here enough to, it's kind of normal.

00:35:36.480 Yeah.

00:35:36.600 So I'm from orange County.

00:35:37.740 So yeah, it's very normal.

00:35:39.240 All right, cool.

00:35:40.360 Nice.

00:35:42.200 I'm in a very lovely, committed, monogamous relationship with my boyfriend, Frankie.

00:35:49.720 We've been together.

00:35:50.380 Wait, Madison, you're kind of sinking behind her if you can like.

00:35:52.860 Oh, I like can't really, I'll just have to sink.

00:35:55.000 Maybe scoot a little towards Matt.

00:35:56.320 There we go.

00:35:56.700 Perfect.

00:35:57.120 We've been together for about like 10 and a half months and this is now my longest relationship.

00:36:05.040 Rock and roll.

00:36:05.860 Do you have like a promise ring or something?

00:36:07.800 I do.

00:36:08.200 I always show it to them.

00:36:09.860 It's a promise ring.

00:36:11.580 Okay.

00:36:12.480 Wait, what's the promise?

00:36:14.460 To love each other forever.

00:36:15.860 Forever.

00:36:16.240 Okay.

00:36:16.500 Forever and ever.

00:36:18.200 So a promise ring is like, it's like a pre-engagement ring almost.

00:36:21.760 Yeah.

00:36:22.040 It's like a commitment, like a vow of commitment and basically that it's like headed toward

00:36:26.600 marriage.

00:36:26.940 It's just not legally binding.

00:36:28.720 Yeah.

00:36:28.940 Yeah.

00:36:29.300 Exactly.

00:36:29.600 Yeah.

00:36:29.920 Yeah.

00:36:29.960 Yeah.

00:36:30.000 When I hear promise ring, I think of the Jonas Brothers like a decade ago.

00:36:32.620 They have their promise rings.

00:36:33.940 Like a chastity ring.

00:36:37.080 What are those?

00:36:37.640 Like, didn't they wear those?

00:36:40.140 Is that what it was?

00:36:40.900 It means they're not having sex?

00:36:42.400 Oh, okay.

00:36:43.600 Like a celibacy ring or something.

00:36:46.340 I didn't know that was a thing.

00:36:49.240 Matt, what about you?

00:36:50.860 I have been married for almost three years in September.

00:36:55.040 And we've got a two-year-old daughter and a son in one month.

00:36:59.700 So my wife is very, very, very pregnant right now.

00:37:03.060 And she's watching right now.

00:37:04.320 So hi.

00:37:04.660 Hi, Kathy.

00:37:05.660 Hi, Kathy.

00:37:06.460 Congratulations.

00:37:07.560 Congrats.

00:37:08.800 Congrats.

00:37:09.280 So you said your son's due in about a month?

00:37:12.420 Yep, in August.

00:37:13.460 So hold on.

00:37:14.300 I have a question for you.

00:37:16.200 World of Warcraft announced that they're releasing hardcore realms.

00:37:20.600 Confirm or deny?

00:37:21.460 Let's say the realm releases on the due date.

00:37:25.600 Let's be honest.

00:37:26.820 You're going to be home.

00:37:28.980 She's going to be a single mom.

00:37:30.400 Yeah.

00:37:30.680 No, I'm kidding.

00:37:31.980 Of course.

00:37:32.340 That's terrible.

00:37:33.400 No, if, listen, if that comes out, if the new World of Warcraft stuff happens on the due date,

00:37:39.140 then I'm not playing WoW.

00:37:40.380 Then you've got to be a dad for a couple weeks.

00:37:42.240 And you've got to, you know, help with the infant, with the newborn stuff.

00:37:45.040 You need to get.

00:37:45.760 It's priorities.

00:37:46.600 Well, I was about to say, you need to get your priorities straight.

00:37:49.180 Because, I mean, there's only one opportunity to be, you know, fresh, hardcore.

00:37:54.780 Fresh.

00:37:55.180 Oh, man.

00:37:55.920 What about fresh firstborn son?

00:37:57.540 That's cool.

00:37:58.520 I guess that's.

00:37:59.140 That's badass.

00:37:59.920 That's not bad.

00:38:00.560 Okay, very cool.

00:38:02.460 So I just had one question just to bring it back to you.

00:38:05.720 So you just broke up with your boyfriend.

00:38:08.980 Yes.

00:38:09.340 Has there been a rebound?

00:38:10.940 No, it was just yesterday.

00:38:12.600 I mean, never say never.

00:38:14.360 But I actually just remembered something when you mentioned that you were married.

00:38:18.800 I'm actually married, too.

00:38:19.840 I forgot.

00:38:21.260 We're just separated.

00:38:22.840 What?

00:38:23.520 You're legally married?

00:38:24.600 I'm legally married, yes.

00:38:25.700 Oh, that's how she got.

00:38:27.000 Is that how you got the green card?

00:38:28.980 No, it wasn't for that.

00:38:30.120 I'm like, I'm legal.

00:38:31.580 You're a citizen.

00:38:31.960 I'm not a citizen, but I'm a permanent green card holder.

00:38:34.720 Like, I'm legal and everything.

00:38:35.900 So that's how you got the green card, was through the marriage?

00:38:37.900 No, not at all.

00:38:39.160 Okay.

00:38:39.700 Well, I got married last year, but I've been living in America for 11 years now.

00:38:45.500 I've had my green card for 11 years.

00:38:46.880 Okay, okay.

00:38:47.460 How did you get the green card?

00:38:48.340 Um, I'm not sure how the process was, but I think my grandpa was already living in California,

00:38:55.220 and he petitioned for my mom, my brother, and I to come to America, and it took two years.

00:39:01.640 Oh, okay.

00:39:02.040 Yeah.

00:39:02.340 My wife is from Germany, so she's been living in the U.S. now.

00:39:05.400 And we, so she got her green card, and it was an absolute pain in the ass to go through.

00:39:10.620 This was during COVID, all the, all my, it was a nightmare.

00:39:13.120 Absolute nightmare.

00:39:14.140 Wow.

00:39:14.380 Wait, so you guys are separated?

00:39:16.320 We are separated.

00:39:17.320 We got separated, um, it was December 30th, actually.

00:39:23.000 Did you file for a divorce yet, or are you planning to?

00:39:26.340 We're filing for annulment.

00:39:27.620 I just actually did the paperwork today, yeah.

00:39:30.620 Whose idea was it to separate?

00:39:32.600 It was mutual.

00:39:33.860 We were not working out at all.

00:39:36.220 Like, we were fighting all the time.

00:39:37.860 We just knew it would be best for us to separate, so we wouldn't end up hating each other.

00:39:42.300 How long were you guys together before you got married?

00:39:45.780 Oh, God.

00:39:47.240 A month.

00:39:50.220 Wow.

00:39:50.900 What?

00:39:52.340 And why did you decide to get married?

00:39:54.720 Um, honestly, we did it because we thought it would be funny.

00:39:58.920 We, um, I don't really, I don't ever want to get married.

00:40:02.700 I've never really taken marriage seriously.

00:40:04.720 And the day we decided to get married, um, we were actually both on shrooms.

00:40:11.500 And what had happened was, I, I'm a model, so I did a photo shoot with my best friend.

00:40:16.220 And the photo shoot we did was at a house, and I posted it on my Instagram, and my caption

00:40:21.580 was, oh, like, just got married and bought a house, like, as a joke.

00:40:25.000 And then, when I was doing shrooms with my ex, um, he brought up my Instagram post, and

00:40:30.980 he was like, wouldn't it be so funny, like, if we got married?

00:40:33.900 And I was like, yeah, like, that would be really funny.

00:40:36.280 And we were like, okay, like, let's do it.

00:40:38.700 If we lost, we lost.

00:40:39.880 Like, I'd be able to get my citizenship, because I'm not a U.S. citizen.

00:40:43.720 So, a month later, we got married.

00:40:46.220 Okay, listen.

00:40:47.120 Men in the audience, when you guys are like, 50% of marriages end in divorce.

00:40:50.880 Okay, this is padding the number.

00:40:54.120 That's one of them.

00:40:55.300 Do you regret getting married?

00:40:57.280 I do, because now I have to go to court to get an annulment, which is a pain in the ass.

00:41:02.500 Yeah, I bet.

00:41:03.000 Wait, you said you didn't take marriage seriously.

00:41:05.360 Why?

00:41:07.160 Was it the drugs that you were on when you decided to initially get married?

00:41:11.320 Yeah, but a month later, she still did it.

00:41:13.900 Yeah, I still did it a month later, so it wasn't really the drugs.

00:41:17.380 Oh, okay.

00:41:18.060 I guess I just thought it would be funny.

00:41:19.560 I don't know.

00:41:20.260 It was a very impulsive decision that I definitely regret.

00:41:24.020 How old were you when you did this?

00:41:25.300 20.

00:41:25.900 20, okay.

00:41:27.560 Young people are impulsive.

00:41:29.240 Did you have any...

00:41:30.640 Around Meatball donated $100.

00:41:33.780 Was there a prenup?

00:41:35.400 Good to see you back, Mr. Meatball.

00:41:37.200 Was there a prenup?

00:41:38.380 No, there wasn't.

00:41:40.400 No prenup.

00:41:41.880 So, did you have any problems dividing resources or money or anything?

00:41:45.500 It was pretty clean?

00:41:46.760 No, it was very clean, yeah.

00:41:47.980 Oh, good.

00:41:48.860 That's good.

00:41:50.260 Yeah.

00:41:51.700 Wow.

00:41:52.780 Good times.

00:41:53.820 Good times.

00:41:54.600 Good times.

00:41:55.440 So, you will soon be a divorcee?

00:41:58.980 Yes.

00:41:59.440 Or, I don't know if I will be a divorcee because I'm going to have an annulment, so it's going

00:42:04.320 to just void the marriage.

00:42:05.700 Oh, it's as if you were never married, I guess.

00:42:07.600 Yeah.

00:42:07.820 You'll be an annulment, an annulment, an annulment, an annulment, an annulment, an annulment.

00:42:11.700 An annulment, an annulment.

00:42:13.000 Wait, but you never answered the question, so why do you think you don't take marriage

00:42:17.140 seriously?

00:42:17.740 Like, where did that come from?

00:42:18.820 And like, what do you think marriage is for?

00:42:20.880 Like, what do you think the purpose of marriage is?

00:42:22.740 I feel like growing up, I've just never really been around healthy relationships, so it's

00:42:29.240 hard for me to really think about that right now, especially.

00:42:33.240 Would you say that after that experience, you take marriage more seriously now, or do you

00:42:40.840 still have the same outlook on it?

00:42:43.240 Well, now, I would definitely take marriage seriously, but also at the same time, I don't

00:42:47.620 really think I would ever want to actually get married besides what I did.

00:42:52.620 I don't think that really counts as a real marriage, because it was a joke, even though

00:42:56.160 it was legal.

00:42:57.380 But my whole life, I never really planned on actually getting married.

00:43:03.240 I just don't really see a point in involving the government in my relationship, even though

00:43:09.560 I did it, I know.

00:43:10.880 Based.

00:43:11.640 Yeah.

00:43:12.460 Do you think that there's, I mean, outside of just like the legal status of being married,

00:43:16.820 do you think that there is something deep and profound about making a public declaration

00:43:22.320 to vow your life to someone else?

00:43:26.200 Not really.

00:43:28.400 I just don't see the point.

00:43:30.680 Okay.

00:43:30.940 Do you think that, like, your joke marriage or whatever affected the way you think about

00:43:35.800 marriages now, or you're just like flat out no?

00:43:38.540 Not at all, no.

00:43:40.200 Hold on just a sec.

00:43:42.800 Hey, good to see you back, man.

00:43:43.860 Gents, make sure you give the same energy.

00:43:57.300 Toss her if she's 0.01% fatter than your preference.

00:44:01.860 Uh, your response to Mr. Zentience.

00:44:05.880 Wait, is he calling me fat?

00:44:07.400 No, I don't think he's calling you fat.

00:44:08.780 Okay.

00:44:08.840 I don't know.

00:44:09.800 But is that true?

00:44:10.740 Is it, if you're 6'3", is it 0.01% or is it one, I thought it was 1%.

00:44:15.540 Oh, I've seen a lot of people over 6'3".

00:44:17.720 Well, I think, well, okay, I think it's definitely less than 1% of people are 6'3 and above, I think.

00:44:25.100 But I don't think it's 0.01% because I think, like, over 6'3 is 15%, so.

00:44:32.840 6'3 is valid, though.

00:44:33.960 Let me, I can Google it.

00:44:35.480 That makes sense, like, for what I see walking around in the world.

00:44:40.840 Yeah.

00:44:41.460 Well, everyone's taller than me.

00:44:42.780 Well, since we're, by the way, Zentience, very good to see you back in the chat, man.

00:44:46.380 It's been a while since we've seen you, so welcome back.

00:44:51.180 Why don't we actually go around the table on the height thing?

00:44:53.200 Thank you for bringing that up, Zentience.

00:44:54.500 So do any of you have a height preference when it comes to dating?

00:45:00.420 And also, how tall are you?

00:45:01.520 So how tall are you, and do you have a height preference?

00:45:04.680 If so, what?

00:45:05.360 Go ahead.

00:45:07.100 I'm 5'5".

00:45:08.500 I, like, want you to be at least as tall as I am.

00:45:16.080 So you date a guy who's 5'5"?

00:45:18.140 Like, sometimes I have a hard time, like, telling how, like, tall people are.

00:45:22.900 Like, I just don't notice it that much.

00:45:24.800 Like, unless you're, like, way taller than me or way shorter than me, it's just not that

00:45:28.940 apparent or obvious to me.

00:45:30.460 It's not something that, like, sticks out.

00:45:32.820 Would it bother you if you were wearing heels and your guy was, like, an inch shorter than you?

00:45:36.460 I've been in that situation.

00:45:39.060 Um, no.

00:45:43.420 But I guess if I had to, like, pick, I would say tall for, like, genetic reasons.

00:45:50.280 I feel like tall people are, like, valued more in society and have, like, better agility and ability.

00:46:00.060 So I would consider that for, like, procreating.

00:46:04.640 So you would want a taller man to have kids with as opposed to a shorter man?

00:46:08.380 If I had to pick between the two, I would feel like there's reasons that I would pick tall.

00:46:15.640 Also, like, they can help you and it's kind of nice to look at.

00:46:18.760 But good thing I don't have to pick, so.

00:46:22.240 Well, what does that mean?

00:46:23.040 You don't have to pick?

00:46:23.660 Like, there's all, like, I feel like there's, like, different, like, people.

00:46:27.960 Like, it's not that important to me.

00:46:30.260 Like, there's other factors, like personality and stuff.

00:46:33.020 But if I had two guys that I really liked who were, like, equally as available and had, like, the same things

00:46:38.960 and one was tall and one was not, I would pick the tall one.

00:46:42.700 You'd pick the tall guy.

00:46:43.820 And kids are something you want to have?

00:46:46.160 Um, yeah, I want to have kids, but at the same time, I don't feel like I need to have kids.

00:46:52.800 Like, I would have kids if it's the right time and I'm in a good situation where I feel like I can nurture them properly

00:47:01.300 and, like, it's also I can have a good life and do the things I want to do.

00:47:06.820 But I wouldn't just have a kid because I feel like I need to for some reason

00:47:11.140 and not be, like, stable enough to support them.

00:47:15.200 Yeah, sure.

00:47:16.380 What about you?

00:47:17.080 I'm 5'2", and I'd like to date someone who's at least 5'5", I guess, because I wear a lot of platforms.

00:47:25.260 But I don't think I really care too much, honestly.

00:47:29.260 Okay.

00:47:30.780 Um, I'm going to agree with her.

00:47:32.800 I'm 5'2", as well.

00:47:33.780 I think 5'5", is, like, is, 5'5", is, like, the shortest that I would consider dating.

00:47:39.840 Okay.

00:47:41.780 Okay.

00:47:42.460 Yes.

00:47:43.900 Um, I'm 4'11", and my boyfriend is 5'7", so he is a short king.

00:47:50.220 Oh, you're 4'11", too.

00:47:51.880 Yeah, but I'm also short, so it kind of works out.

00:47:55.380 Okay.

00:47:56.320 I've talked and dated guys that were as short as 5'2".

00:48:01.400 Um, I grew up with a mom who's taller than my dad.

00:48:05.420 My dad's 5'1", um, and my mom's 5'3", so I guess I never really took height into that much consideration.

00:48:13.340 I think, for me personally, I just prefer someone to be a couple inches taller than me,

00:48:18.580 and I don't think it's too hard to find that because I'm already so short.

00:48:22.180 So, uh, yeah.

00:48:25.700 Is it my turn?

00:48:27.260 Yeah.

00:48:27.940 Okay, so...

00:48:28.400 Oh, well, you kind of already went, but...

00:48:29.720 Well, don't get me wrong, though.

00:48:31.400 5'7", isn't short.

00:48:32.780 I'm not calling you guys short kings.

00:48:34.400 You're still, like, you're, like, the six-foot equivalent to me because I'm, like, short.

00:48:39.560 But, sorry to offend any 5'7", or up, but anything under 5'7", I'm so sorry, guys.

00:48:45.840 Have they been coming for you in the chat?

00:48:47.340 I haven't been paying attention.

00:48:48.180 Oh, yeah, they have.

00:48:48.700 I'm sorry, y'all.

00:48:50.360 Rip.

00:48:50.660 Rip.

00:48:51.480 Um, what about you?

00:48:54.120 I'm 5'3".

00:48:55.160 I honestly don't pay too much attention to height.

00:48:58.400 My boyfriend is tall, which is great.

00:49:00.980 But, honestly, um, I look at other qualities.

00:49:04.900 Obviously, personality and being able to have a connection is really important.

00:49:08.140 But I look at, um, other traits.

00:49:10.560 Like, are they going to be a good leader?

00:49:12.380 Are they a provider?

00:49:13.440 Do they have other masculine traits that I'm interested in?

00:49:17.060 And I think that even, um, you know, outside of physical appearance, although physical appearance is important, and having that physical attraction, I think having masculine qualities, um, is more important.

00:49:30.460 M-Dog.

00:49:31.200 I'm 5'2".

00:49:33.060 I honestly don't really care that much about height.

00:49:35.500 Like, like you said, luckily, my boyfriend is, my boyfriend's, like, 5'11".

00:49:40.460 Eh, he, sometimes he says 6 foot.

00:49:43.660 But the shortest...

00:49:44.720 They all do.

00:49:45.480 Yeah, like, my ex-boyfriend was 5'6".

00:49:48.280 I didn't have a problem with it at all.

00:49:50.000 I think being taller is a plus, though.

00:49:52.920 Like, I think being, like, guys like shorter girls.

00:49:56.780 So, yeah.

00:49:57.740 Yeah.

00:49:58.160 Just tuning into what you just said there.

00:49:59.940 So, you said, you guys were kind of joking about how, like, a lot of guys will exaggerate their height, lie about their height.

00:50:07.860 But, is that, has that been your guys' experience?

00:50:10.240 Maybe some of you have been on dating apps where, you know, a guy claims he's 6 feet, but actually he's, like, 5'10", or, you know, maybe he, it's a, he's a different height.

00:50:20.460 Maybe he's 5'6", and he says he's 5'9", something like that.

00:50:23.200 Have any of you experienced that on, for example, a dating app?

00:50:27.120 Yes.

00:50:27.820 Absolutely.

00:50:28.780 Yes.

00:50:29.060 I feel like guys do it all the time, to be honest.

00:50:32.100 Even if it's just, like, an inch or, like, two inches more.

00:50:35.360 Sure.

00:50:35.740 Like.

00:50:36.600 And I, maybe a show of hands from the table.

00:50:39.240 Do you guys think it's wrong for men to misrepresent or lie about their height on a dating app?

00:50:46.260 Yes.

00:50:46.300 Do you think it's wrong?

00:50:47.100 Lying is never okay.

00:50:47.700 It's like catfishing.

00:50:48.960 You don't want a girl that catfishes.

00:50:50.840 I don't think it's wrong.

00:50:53.240 It depends to what extent.

00:50:54.700 Because, like, I understand, like, I round up a little bit.

00:50:56.800 If you want to round up, like, maybe, like, an inch, I'll give you the one.

00:51:01.200 Sentions donated $100.

00:51:03.160 We'll come back to that.

00:51:03.960 Hey, thanks, man.

00:51:04.440 1.3 inches is 1% of the U.S. male population.

00:51:08.680 I was just being hyperbolic, but I wouldn't need to explain it as much, seeing as how majority of this panel's favorite color is clear, with a personality to match.

00:51:18.800 Any men who claim these girls should reconsider.

00:51:21.900 Word?

00:51:24.760 Damn.

00:51:25.660 There it is.

00:51:26.460 Word.

00:51:26.720 Word.

00:51:26.740 Word.

00:51:27.280 With a...

00:51:27.640 Favorite color is clear.

00:51:30.080 Okay.

00:51:31.020 Zentiences are...

00:51:32.220 Don't take it personally.

00:51:33.440 He's a resident roaster.

00:51:35.160 I think he's been throwing back the whiskey, so...

00:51:39.020 And he recently...

00:51:40.400 My understanding is he was in Vegas.

00:51:43.520 I was actually in Vegas with him.

00:51:45.700 And he's got deep fucking pockets.

00:51:49.020 Zentience.

00:51:49.620 I'm talking, like, made a shit ton.

00:51:51.680 Oh, really?

00:51:52.880 Oh, are you interested?

00:51:54.320 Maybe I could get you guys connected.

00:51:55.960 In any case, me and him were in Vegas.

00:51:57.560 And, like I said, deep pockets.

00:51:59.740 He made up millions on Doge and GME, like the stock shit.

00:52:05.880 Million, like, seven figures on...

00:52:08.020 Or, excuse me, eight figures on Doge.

00:52:09.940 And he lost a million dollars.

00:52:14.120 We were playing...

00:52:15.240 What's it called?

00:52:17.580 Baccarat?

00:52:18.280 Is that?

00:52:18.640 Huh?

00:52:19.000 Baccarat?

00:52:20.020 Huh?

00:52:20.360 Baccarat?

00:52:21.080 Huh?

00:52:21.600 I believe it's Baccarat?

00:52:23.960 Baccarat?

00:52:24.560 Baccarat, I believe.

00:52:25.080 No, no, no.

00:52:25.500 It was...

00:52:26.180 What's it called?

00:52:26.720 Blackjack?

00:52:27.800 Maka Gara.

00:52:28.740 That's a World of Warcraft thing.

00:52:29.680 Slash Maka Gara.

00:52:31.060 What's the one where the wheel won?

00:52:33.640 Oh, roulette.

00:52:34.720 Roulette.

00:52:35.240 Oh, my God.

00:52:35.780 Jesus.

00:52:38.500 Okay.

00:52:38.980 He, like, actually lost, like, an actual million dollars.

00:52:41.200 He lost a million dollars on roulette.

00:52:42.760 An actual one million dollars.

00:52:44.020 Easy come, easy go.

00:52:45.020 Zentience?

00:52:45.660 That could have paid my rent for, like, the next five years.

00:52:49.280 Zentience is a degenerate gambler.

00:52:51.740 I actually...

00:52:52.860 I was tempted to check him into a rehab facility.

00:52:55.740 So, he's a little salty.

00:52:58.300 So, if he takes it out on you guys tonight, I just want you to know, don't take it personally.

00:53:02.880 He just lost a shit ton of money.

00:53:05.620 Just saying.

00:53:06.220 Okay.

00:53:07.540 Is he a gambler?

00:53:09.200 Like, he gambles often?

00:53:09.860 He lost a million dollars in gambling.

00:53:12.080 I know, but, like, in general, like, is he consistent with gambling?

00:53:15.120 Or was that just, like, a one-time thing?

00:53:19.040 I mean, with gambling, you normally end up losing.

00:53:22.700 Well, I gotta ask.

00:53:23.960 So, when Brian said that Zentient was a millionaire, you perked up.

00:53:27.620 So, is that the number one thing you're looking for in a man is money?

00:53:31.220 Um, no.

00:53:32.440 No, but I feel like people, like, assume that about me a lot.

00:53:36.540 So, I like to joke about it.

00:53:38.740 Okay.

00:53:39.020 So, you just kind of play into it.

00:53:40.280 Yeah.

00:53:40.800 But really, it's not as important.

00:53:43.780 No, it's not that.

00:53:45.120 It's, like, not the most important thing.

00:53:47.480 What's the minimum amount of money a man has to make in order to date you?

00:53:51.280 We'll come back to the hype thing after that.

00:53:52.880 What if he's making, what if he's, like, a giga-chad, he's 6'3", top 1%, but he's making, looks good, makes 50 grand a year?

00:54:03.260 I feel like, for me, there's, like, a difference between, like, someone I would date and someone I would, like, settle down with or, like, get married to.

00:54:10.840 Okay.

00:54:11.100 You know, like, if I was just dating someone, as long as they, like, can pay for their own stuff.

00:54:17.840 They don't want me to pay for things.

00:54:19.500 They have, like, money to do stuff.

00:54:21.400 If they're not always in a bad situation and they have some sort of ambition and, like, drive in their life, then I, if they could make, like, just a minimum amount of money to do those things.

00:54:34.660 But if I was, like, going to build a life with someone, then I would need a pretty good amount of money to have the life that I would want.

00:54:43.740 But I like to work, too.

00:54:45.180 Yeah.

00:54:45.420 And I like to make money, too.

00:54:46.520 I'm not looking for somebody to, like, completely form.

00:54:48.280 Proverbs 2119 donated $100.

00:54:51.400 Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.

00:54:56.140 Well, just get a good wife.

00:54:57.440 Thank you, Proverbs 2119.

00:54:59.420 Just get a great wife that doesn't nag you.

00:55:02.320 Yeah.

00:55:02.660 What if she started out...

00:55:03.800 How do you become a good wife?

00:55:04.540 We should talk about that.

00:55:04.800 What if she started out as a great wife, but then, you know, there was a steady decline into just a total grating personality, you know, so...

00:55:14.540 Why do you think that happens?

00:55:15.480 Why did it happen?

00:55:16.800 Did you not...

00:55:17.380 Was it your failure as the man to not vet that woman properly enough?

00:55:21.040 No.

00:55:21.240 Because that's the point of the dating process is to vet the woman.

00:55:23.700 Or maybe you're not providing for her emotionally.

00:55:26.080 I think...

00:55:27.160 Well, sorry.

00:55:27.860 Go ahead.

00:55:28.140 Continue.

00:55:28.760 Maybe you're not fulfilling all the duties that you should be as a husband.

00:55:32.620 And so she feels a lack because of that.

00:55:36.360 No, I don't think so.

00:55:37.700 I think in these situations...

00:55:39.460 Wait, are you single?

00:55:40.600 I think in these situations, the man is never to blame in these...

00:55:45.400 No, I'm kidding.

00:55:46.920 I'd say it's hard to attribute who's to blame in these situations, but it's often a complaint that you hear from men about their partner being...

00:55:56.660 You often don't hear women complaining about men being nagging.

00:56:00.600 You hear other complaints, but you don't often hear women complain about men nagging them.

00:56:05.300 Let me give you a situation.

00:56:06.680 Let's say I'm going to make a business, a multi-million dollar business, and I'm going to go into business with a business partner.

00:56:11.640 It's you.

00:56:12.140 Okay, we're making a business.

00:56:13.680 Multi-million dollar deals are on the table.

00:56:16.440 And we've only known each other for three or four months.

00:56:18.660 We don't know each other that very well.

00:56:19.760 And after two or three years, I find out that you're a rat, scumbag, you've been embezzling money, you've been screwing me over every step of the way.

00:56:29.920 Most people would blame me for not vetting you well enough, and I think that's fair, right?

00:56:35.520 I'd be at fault for not properly, because we got into business pretty on short notice.

00:56:39.300 I think both people would have accountability.

00:56:41.080 I mean, you shouldn't be able...

00:56:42.480 Well, obviously, you transgressed, right?

00:56:43.600 But I didn't do my due diligence in vetting my business partner.

00:56:47.240 Sure.

00:56:47.540 That's how I look at a marriage also, right?

00:56:49.420 I think when I'm looking at...

00:56:50.760 This is my advice to most people.

00:56:51.960 If you want to marry someone, you want to see how they are in the fall, winter, spring, summer.

00:56:55.040 You want to see, do they get seasonal depression?

00:56:56.580 Do they do things that make you uncomfortable?

00:56:57.920 Are they annoying around the house?

00:56:59.700 How are they dressed?

00:57:00.500 There's 10 million different little micro-variables you need to vet out, and this is the process of dating.

00:57:06.440 And so part of it is like, well, what if your wife becomes a psycho five years into the marriage?

00:57:11.060 Well, I think more often than not, you can vet for that.

00:57:15.560 I think so.

00:57:16.100 And I think people are not approaching dating from that mindset, and I think they probably should.

00:57:21.860 Yeah.

00:57:22.060 I mean, certainly, I think each partner has a responsibility, like you said, to do their due diligence and screen for potential things that could be an issue down the road.

00:57:32.300 But my thinking is, though, however, is that I do think, and look, I think, I don't think one party bears all the blame or all the responsibility or accountability.

00:57:42.500 I do think, though, that there is a potential, once you've been put, for example, and I think this is typically when it comes to the women, once you've secured the bag, aka wedding, marriage, you know, it kind of does give an opportunity for potentially either partner to start feeling a little comfortable in that relationship.

00:58:09.440 And comfortable in a bad way, you know, so, for example, comfortable disrespecting your partner, potentially.

00:58:15.020 That's why you need boundaries.

00:58:20.200 Word.

00:58:21.020 Well, I also feel like people just don't know how to date anymore.

00:58:23.920 I think that they don't know how to date or, like, vet or whatever phrase you want to use for it.

00:58:29.640 And I think that people use people, especially in our society right now.

00:58:35.420 Like, women oftentimes will use guys for attention or for money or for comfort, whatever it is.

00:58:42.000 And men use women for their bodies and also for comfort.

00:58:46.360 And we have this society that's so conditioned to using people instead of loving people.

00:58:51.440 And if we dated with the mindset, I want to get to know this person, I see their dignity and their value, and I want to see if this person is a potential life partner for me and invest in them, I think that we would have different outcomes.

00:59:05.300 But unfortunately, because of our selfish society, people are dating to use people instead of dating to love them and dating to commit to them long term.

00:59:14.940 Yeah, I do think my mindset on dating is that dating is a process with which you find a person to marry, right?

00:59:20.240 And so I think people are just sort of dating very flippantly.

00:59:23.120 Maybe it's for physical pleasure or just for fun or it's just someone to do things with versus, okay, this is someone that I am testing out for marriage.

00:59:30.660 And the second I determine that our personalities are incompatible, I think it's probably best to break it off and maybe move on to someone new, right?

00:59:37.600 Well, so much of relationships are transactional instead of actually sacrificial.

00:59:42.140 And really, a healthy, strong relationship, both partners will be sacrificing and not giving 50-50, but giving 110% or 120% and showing up and sacrificing every day for that person.

00:59:54.840 But unfortunately, we have people, again, using people, having transactional relationships and not upholding the dignity of the other person.

01:00:02.460 Well, let me ask, as a matter of, oh, did you have something?

01:00:05.180 Oh, okay, okay.

01:00:07.660 In terms of proportion, who do you think is more likely, just on a gender level, who do you think is more likely to be a user?

01:00:16.940 Because you mentioned a lot of people are approaching relationships in a transactional way.

01:00:23.040 Men.

01:00:23.620 You think men are more likely to be using than women?

01:00:26.960 Okay, using women or do you think, or using relationships?

01:00:31.340 Which one are you?

01:00:32.740 Because I think men use women all day long, you know?

01:00:36.340 As opposed to women?

01:00:38.220 Yeah.

01:00:39.180 I think there's a difference between using a guy in a relationship.

01:00:42.140 Like, let's say you're, like, trying to get something out of him, so you're kind of, I don't know, agreeing to be in a relationship that you're not totally into the person or whatever because you think it's benefiting your life in some way.

01:00:52.860 Is that what you're talking about?

01:00:53.940 Or are you talking about just generally who uses the other sex more?

01:00:58.060 Sure, okay, let's go into that.

01:00:59.520 So you said the way that men typically will engage in transactional relationships with women or use women is they use women for their bodies, for sex, or whatever.

01:01:11.080 I, to some degree, reject that.

01:01:12.920 But then you said, did you say that women will use men, for example, for financial reasons?

01:01:20.400 Sometimes.

01:01:21.220 Some women.

01:01:22.060 Okay, I would argue that there are more women who are engaging in transactional relationships of this nature than the reverse.

01:01:31.280 And here's one reason why I think.

01:01:33.540 There's a very small proportion of men that are able to command that sort of attention from women.

01:01:41.660 Whereas most, like, when it comes to, like, the relationship dynamics, I would say most women, generally speaking, like, let's look at the average here.

01:01:50.740 Of course, I think there's this component of women will be, a lot of women are all chasing after the top 10, top 20% of men.

01:01:57.100 And so those men have quite a bit of negotiating power in relationships.

01:02:01.960 However, you take an average guy and an average woman, I'd say the average woman is running circles around the average guy.

01:02:09.600 And I think that's because women are much more socially attuned.

01:02:12.880 By the time a woman is 21, she's had much more social experience.

01:02:18.340 And I think, just naturally speaking, women are more socially attuned than men.

01:02:21.880 So women, I think, are much more capable of running circles around men than the reverse.

01:02:26.020 But most women are not getting into relationships because they think that they're going to get some sort of, like, lifestyle benefit or something like that.

01:02:36.500 They're in a relationship because they actually value the connection.

01:02:39.300 And I would say that that's not always the case for men.

01:02:44.360 Okay, let me ask you a question.

01:02:45.580 Who do you think should pay on the first date?

01:02:47.200 Men.

01:02:48.420 Well, that's a bit transactional, don't you think?

01:02:51.480 No, because it's not about the transaction of just them paying.

01:02:54.860 It's about that.

01:02:56.760 First of all, I believe that men should pursue women.

01:02:59.000 I think that men should take the leadership and relationships and even on the first date.

01:03:04.280 I don't think that it's about, oh, he should pay for my meal and I'm going to go on the date with this guy and get a free meal out of it, which a lot of people are saying as a joke or serious.

01:03:13.220 I think that it's a sign that that guy is willing to invest in you, if not only in time, but also in his money when he pays for your first date.

01:03:23.900 Well, you just said invest his time and his money.

01:03:26.840 So isn't that to some degree a transactional?

01:03:30.380 It's not that it's a transaction.

01:03:31.660 It's a show that he's willing to sacrifice in the future for your family or to take care of you or in your...

01:03:37.820 Why shouldn't women be doing that?

01:03:40.400 Women do do it, but in different ways.

01:03:42.500 So, for example, if a woman becomes a wife, she might sacrifice her career to take care of her family and to have a baby.

01:03:49.480 And women sacrifice in a different way than men sacrifice.

01:03:51.800 Yeah, but it's not a given when you first meet somebody that you know for certain if this person is going to be the person you spend the rest of your life with.

01:04:01.420 So, I mean...

01:04:02.220 It's part of the pursuit.

01:04:03.040 So you're saying like two years down the road, that's potentially when a woman brings her end of the deal?

01:04:10.080 Like, I'm just...

01:04:11.360 I think it's part of...

01:04:12.320 I don't think it's about bringing her end of the deal.

01:04:14.320 It's part of the pursuit.

01:04:15.340 I think women are meant to be pursued.

01:04:16.860 Unfortunately, in the world we live in today, women have taken on masculine traits because they feel like they've confused the idea of having equal rights as being the same as men.

01:04:30.120 So we have it backwards where now we have a lot of women who think they need to pursue.

01:04:34.800 And also with this idea of like...

01:04:36.860 This like scarcity idea that all women are going for the top 10, 20% of men.

01:04:41.600 It's like there's this notion in women's minds that there's like a scarcity of good men.

01:04:45.980 Well, I would argue that there's maybe a scarcity of good women also.

01:04:50.180 And that has to do with, first of all, women taking on masculine traits like pursuing the other person.

01:04:58.780 But it also has to do with us creating an environment that breeds weak men that don't want to take leadership.

01:05:07.120 Also, like some men I feel like like to do that.

01:05:10.720 Like I feel like men like to express themselves through doing stuff for people and taking care of you.

01:05:16.360 So that can feel good to some men as well.

01:05:19.040 I like it when a woman simps.

01:05:21.060 Acts of service.

01:05:22.260 Acts of service.

01:05:23.840 Start simping.

01:05:24.940 I got to say, one of the functions of like a high testosterone, giga chad, high value male is that you need to be willing to take risks.

01:05:31.900 And one of these risks that you want, you need to make a calculated risk.

01:05:35.600 But one of those risks is, okay, I'm going to pay for the first date because this woman might three years from now, like give me her womb and bear my children.

01:05:44.180 And that's a sacrifice that she's making for me.

01:05:46.960 But I need to be willing to take a calculated risk today because that might be what happens as a result.

01:05:51.440 Is that not fair to say?

01:05:54.320 I know what you're saying.

01:05:55.020 Don't you think it's part of the pursuit though also is like showing the woman that you want to invest in her and take care of her?

01:06:01.400 It's like it's not just about like what might happen in the future.

01:06:04.220 It's part of the game, so to speak, like the cat and mouse pursuit.

01:06:08.900 Yeah, it's like a balance of like masculine and feminine energies.

01:06:12.160 It's not like so specific like a chart.

01:06:15.460 Yeah, I got to say like this is the only thing I disagreed with you on is your hesitance to use the word transactional.

01:06:22.980 I don't think it's a bad word.

01:06:24.580 Like I've got a stay-at-home wife.

01:06:26.580 We have a very aggressively traditional relationship.

01:06:29.080 We are both very...

01:06:30.140 Sorry, hold on.

01:06:32.920 Hey, thank you, man.

01:06:34.020 Current dating is downstream from female hedonism since they perpetuate culture slash access to sex.

01:06:39.880 Weak men bend to those whims excreting adulation, while men, pursuing self-mastery, withdraw their attention.

01:06:47.980 These women are not worth it.

01:06:50.060 Buyer beware.

01:06:51.160 Who allowed women to become hedonistic purveyors of over-sexualized content?

01:06:58.120 Who allowed women to do that?

01:07:00.520 Men did.

01:07:01.200 Well, I mean, women have autonomy and agency, so I mean...

01:07:05.260 You know?

01:07:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you this.

01:07:08.400 I think the downfall of women is a direct result of the downfall of men.

01:07:13.420 It's men becoming weak.

01:07:14.380 It's men becoming lazy and lethargic and addicted and overweight and porn addicted.

01:07:19.380 And I think men are down bad, and as a result, women have...

01:07:22.900 Hold on.

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01:07:26.640 Hey, thank you, man.

01:07:27.360 You shouldn't sacrifice for a relationship.

01:07:29.600 You should do things because the relationship you build brings value and joy to your life.

01:07:34.900 Sacrifice implies you're doing something against yourself for someone else.

01:07:39.760 100% true.

01:07:40.900 I think, actually, it is beautiful and noble as a husband to live sacrificially for your wife and for your wife inversely to live sacrificially for you.

01:07:49.120 In the same way you're doing for your children.

01:07:50.860 As a father, as a mother, your job is to live self-sacrificially for your children, for the betterment of your family, of your bloodline, of your wife, if you're the wife or your husband.

01:07:58.280 There's nothing wrong with being self-sacrificial as long as it's a beautiful, symbiotic, reciprocal type of sacrifice.

01:08:04.300 Okay.

01:08:04.720 If you're not inconveniencing yourself ever for your loved ones, then how can you expect to have a healthy relationship?

01:08:11.700 You're not going to.

01:08:13.080 It's not going to happen.

01:08:15.020 You need to get over this.

01:08:16.680 It's all about me.

01:08:17.380 It's all about me.

01:08:18.080 If you're not willing to make a compromise for your wife or for your children or whatever, then it's not going to work for you.

01:08:24.920 I know you maybe wanted to come in on something, and, Zentience, we will come back and address your point.

01:08:31.120 Go ahead.

01:08:31.880 I forgot what I was talking about.

01:08:35.480 I think I already said it.

01:08:38.500 She's a stand-up comedian, folks.

01:08:40.480 But if it comes back to me, I'll let you know.

01:08:43.860 Let us know.

01:08:44.560 Give us a little wink or something, and I'll try to weave you in.

01:08:47.460 Okay.

01:08:47.780 So, yeah, I mean, Zentience was saying that current dating is downstream from female hedonism since they perpetuate culture, access to sex.

01:09:00.960 Now, you're taking the super trad stance on it, which is, well, men bear kind of ultimate responsibility because we as men ought to be and should be leaders, and we are failing in our duty to be leaders.

01:09:13.400 Yeah, I mean, if you look back through human history, at any time that you would consider traditional or based or whatever, the men have been the ones that are sort of foundationally building society.

01:09:25.240 That seems to be the case, right?

01:09:27.360 And so if men are traditionally the builders of society, if you have a traditional lens, if you're looking at relationships through that lens, if women are becoming OnlyFans models at age 18 or, you know, whatever, we're kind of in a weird societal spot.

01:09:43.200 I don't think men are entirely off the hook.

01:09:53.460 Yeah.

01:09:54.420 I think, but I think the blame falls on both men and women.

01:09:58.960 Most certainly falls on both.

01:10:01.040 Well, I think that...

01:10:02.160 I think right now we've got an epidemic of weak men.

01:10:04.520 Very, very weak, addicted, overweight, lazy men.

01:10:09.080 Does it, before I let you come in, does anyone on this side of the table want to weigh in?

01:10:13.500 I'd like to try to pull you into the conversation.

01:10:16.740 Why can't women be the breadwinners?

01:10:18.320 Like, why can't I be the provider for the household?

01:10:21.240 And like, what if my husband wants to take care of the kids?

01:10:24.300 I feel like that.

01:10:24.660 I will so be a stay-at-home dad for you.

01:10:26.680 I got you.

01:10:27.280 I think that's becoming more common.

01:10:28.740 I'll take care of the kids.

01:10:29.700 What I'm saying is, like, why can't...

01:10:30.480 And I feel like men are now expecting women to be the breadwinners.

01:10:33.960 Um, men are more willing to rely on the girls for money now.

01:10:40.280 Hold on just a second.

01:10:41.720 Zentions donated $99.

01:10:43.140 Allowed to be hedonistic.

01:10:45.080 They are strong, independent women now.

01:10:47.680 Equal treatment.

01:10:48.900 Unless they have proved they are worthy of your traditional role through their actions.

01:10:53.760 Women can't be objectified unless they objectify themselves.

01:10:57.860 I agree about weak men.

01:11:00.020 Hmm.

01:11:00.580 I mean, I think it's, uh...

01:11:01.960 Women can be objectified without objectifying themselves.

01:11:06.000 Absolutely.

01:11:07.320 I don't think there's been a time in human history where you've had more young men...

01:11:11.400 This is a younger generation thing.

01:11:13.100 More young men objectifying women.

01:11:14.980 And this is a result of pornographic content, OnlyFans, Instagram, things like that.

01:11:19.400 You've never had a time where there are more young men objectifying women and more young women commodifying men,

01:11:23.840 viewing them as nothing more than a paycheck or money or some sort of resource.

01:11:28.880 Absolutely.

01:11:29.160 And so this relationship dynamic is super, super toxic to how people should and have always functioned.

01:11:36.980 It's like, okay, we're going to date, I'm going to vet my spouse, we're going to get married, we're going to have kids.

01:11:40.800 That's not happening.

01:11:41.620 There's so many roadblocks in the way.

01:11:43.620 Yeah.

01:11:43.980 It's also not just about providing for your family.

01:11:46.620 I think that the, like, traditional role of a man has more to do than just taking, bringing home the bread or the money or whatever it is.

01:11:56.160 There are other aspects in a husband that make him a provider and a leader and a protector.

01:12:01.520 Like, for example, what would you say makes a good husband outside of just monetarily providing for the family?

01:12:07.520 I would say the path of a traditional man is that path towards becoming the best husband, father, protective provider you possibly can.

01:12:15.160 That's an all-income.

01:12:15.600 What's the idea that you would die for your family, that you would protect them, that absolutely you would come between anything that threatens your family?

01:12:21.800 Yeah, and then inversely, the path and the role of a traditional woman is that path towards being the best nurturer, caregiver, wife, and mother you possibly can be.

01:12:32.560 And living sacrificially to those ends.

01:12:34.040 Dr. Venebili has donated $100.

01:12:37.000 Caffeine gum, gentlemen, I disagree with you.

01:12:40.140 Women are the guardians of virtue and wisdom.

01:12:42.900 They civilize men.

01:12:44.620 Perhaps fathers have failed their daughters?

01:12:47.780 I might buy that element of the situation.

01:12:49.880 Yo, Dr. Natalus, thank you for the TTS, man.

01:12:52.820 Much appreciated.

01:12:54.800 There's a lot of chatter on this.

01:12:56.720 I just want to keep tabs on everything.

01:12:59.500 Fathers have failed.

01:13:01.260 Perhaps fathers.

01:13:02.420 I don't know if it's fathers.

01:13:04.000 I mean, it's women who are divorcing the men.

01:13:09.080 Some people are raised without fathers, even.

01:13:11.780 There are most certainly.

01:13:12.600 I think probably if I could snap my fingers and fix one problem in our society, and that we have a lot of problems in our society,

01:13:17.460 probably the biggest problem is the complete collapse or degradation of the traditional family unit.

01:13:23.720 Right now, you've got like, it's like 25% of kids don't have a dad in their house.

01:13:27.960 That's kids right now.

01:13:29.460 Kids that are being born right now, like if you're born today, there's like a 65% chance your parents aren't even married.

01:13:34.380 That's if you're being born right now.

01:13:36.200 The traditional family unit.

01:13:37.620 Oh, wow.

01:13:38.460 Sentience.

01:13:39.080 Sessions donated $100.

01:13:40.260 Thanks, man.

01:13:40.620 No, you bobblehead.

01:13:43.340 Women must objectify themselves first before any man can.

01:13:47.420 I would say take accountability, but I doubt you would understand, let alone spell the word.

01:13:52.540 It's called morals.

01:13:54.220 Try and learn some before you start objectifying yourself.

01:13:57.540 Just one thought on what Sentience just said when it comes to objectification.

01:14:05.020 What is it?

01:14:05.700 Objectifying?

01:14:06.720 You know, there's been a lot of like talk from feminists, and you know, there's a criticism of men, how they have a tendency to objectify women,

01:14:17.600 and there's this sexualization and objectification.

01:14:20.800 However, we saw, what, two or three years ago with the mass spread of OnlyFans, women can't do that shit to themselves.

01:14:33.480 Like, they objectify themselves.

01:14:35.740 There's this talk of, oh, men, they view women as objects, but like, here, you can see my naked body for $4.99 a month.

01:14:43.760 Can I add something?

01:14:45.180 Go ahead.

01:14:45.480 I think in terms of OnlyFans, those are women consenting to those pictures being released, and I don't have an OnlyFans, and I don't know many people who do.

01:14:56.180 So, of course, my perspective is limited in that regard, but I do think that's a more consensual manner.

01:15:02.040 I think it becomes a problem when it's like, and it can go both ways, you know, people, I guess, objectifying, like, men on TikTok,

01:15:11.580 and men objectifying women in the gym or something, like, you know, it's just like a widespread problem,

01:15:16.840 but I think it has more to do with, like, I don't know.

01:15:23.040 I don't know where I'm going with that.

01:15:23.940 Well, okay, I mean, even going beyond OnlyFans, I mean, if you look at a girl who doesn't do any sort of adult content,

01:15:30.140 but you can look at, like, a lot of women's Instagrams, for example,

01:15:33.020 they're taking, to some degree, semi-provocative or fairly provocative photos, like, oh, like, bending over fucking camera,

01:15:43.200 looking straight up the hoo-ha in, like, a bikini, and, like, when I say objectification, it's like,

01:15:52.620 you are putting that out there on your own, with your own agency.

01:15:58.780 I think that some women might think I'm being objectified anyway, so I might as well capitalize on it as well.

01:16:07.360 But is it objectification for a man to find a woman physically attractive?

01:16:12.840 Here's what I'll say.

01:16:14.080 I think probably the most valuable virtue that a man can have is discipline.

01:16:19.340 If we had men in this society disciplined, there would be no more porn.

01:16:23.700 There would be no more OnlyFans.

01:16:24.900 Who would be jerking off to it?

01:16:25.900 No one would, right?

01:16:26.760 I'm like, is porn a bad thing?

01:16:29.800 Very bad.

01:16:30.380 Absolutely bad.

01:16:31.020 Terrible.

01:16:31.480 Shots fired.

01:16:32.920 Super bad.

01:16:33.820 They've done studies on the effect that porn has on both men and women,

01:16:37.900 and if we're just talking about men, it has, the studies have shown that it has all-around negative effects on men,

01:16:45.140 not only in their relationships, but also in their productivity and their energy levels,

01:16:49.780 in their, like, desire to achieve more for their lives.

01:16:53.580 The more that there's a direct correlation for how much men are consuming porn and how, I guess, like, stagnant their life is.

01:17:03.340 And because of the dopamine increase that they get when they watch porn, it makes it harder to get that dopamine in other places.

01:17:09.900 So they'll feel less satisfied in their work.

01:17:12.340 They'll feel less satisfied in their partner.

01:17:14.220 I've seen those studies, actually.

01:17:16.360 I've looked into that.

01:17:17.440 But I would think that it's, like, similar to other things in life that give you dopamine, like your phone or candy that it's, like, needs to be regulated.

01:17:27.600 And also, I would imagine, like, some of that, the way they feel is because of, like, the guilt and shame surrounded around porn in our society.

01:17:37.000 This is what I think when we're talking about porn addiction.

01:17:39.080 My concern with addiction or dopamine release...

01:17:40.780 I wasn't talking about, like, porn addiction.

01:17:42.860 I was just talking about porn in general.

01:17:44.840 Well, actually, they did a study, not even about adult content, but about men who had a lot of, they followed a lot of, like, social media models or whatever, Instagram models on social media.

01:17:58.900 They said, they did a study that they were less attracted to their partner in real life.

01:18:03.820 The more, there was, like, direct correlation for how many Instagram models they followed, how much they're scrolling, how much time they're spending on their phone looking at these women,

01:18:10.020 and how attracted they felt to their partner or people they were meeting in real life.

01:18:13.720 That's so true.

01:18:14.380 By the way, I'm not here, like, defending porn or anything.

01:18:18.500 I'm kind of just, like, playing devil's advocate and, like, throwing into different perspectives and, like, trying to understand how people feel about it because I'm just so closely related to that industry as well.

01:18:29.760 Yeah.

01:18:30.180 I'm sure you've seen a lot of things that, or know of a lot of things that we don't even know about.

01:18:35.140 I certainly do.

01:18:37.580 Yeah.

01:18:37.880 And I know you said you weren't talking about, like, porn addiction, just porn in general, but, like, you said, it's, like, a dopamine fix.

01:18:43.020 Once a kid gets candy, they're going to want to eat more candy.

01:18:45.240 Once someone watches porn, they're going to keep watching porn and eventually become addicted.

01:18:48.960 But then there's also people who have, like, healthy diets that eat candy occasionally.

01:18:53.760 I think it depends on, like, the personality.

01:18:56.180 Well, okay.

01:18:56.600 So when we're talking about substances that have the capacity to be very damaging to you, or we'll use the word addiction, and you can bring up candy or video games or porn or heroin or whatever, right?

01:19:06.120 I think what's less important to talk about is the fact that something can be addictive or release dopamine in your brain and make you feel good versus the capacity for that addiction to cause really, really substantial damage to you on the micro level and society on the macro level.

01:19:19.440 Porn is very, very damaging to you as an individual and society on the macro.

01:19:24.500 And there's, like, 20 different stats you could throw out to talk about this, gender dynamics and dating and marriage and divorce rates, and it all sort of ties together.

01:19:31.280 Porn has been a very, very damaging experiment on the minds of young men.

01:19:36.780 And the earlier you start watching porn, as a young boy, some people are, I mean, kids these days, like, 11 or 12, they're watching hardcore pornography.

01:19:44.580 Yeah.

01:19:44.880 Your sexual dopamine reward center is, in most cases, permanently just completely frazzled.

01:19:50.440 I mean, I'm definitely familiar with the and the way that it, like, makes people view sex and what they think is okay.

01:19:56.280 I'm just, I'm curious, like, do you think society could exist without that, or is it just, like, something that you feel like is, like, deemed to be created no matter what?

01:20:10.080 Well, I think they'll always be porn to some degree.

01:20:11.720 This is what I'll tell young men, though, is that, you know, blaming promiscuous women for the downfall of society is not going to get you anywhere.

01:20:17.340 What will fix society and fix young men and the men's mental health crisis is men adopting discipline and stopping consuming this content.

01:20:25.240 You need to stop.

01:20:26.200 Well, I also harm women.

01:20:26.680 Like, we can't talk about this and not say that it doesn't harm women, that industry harms women.

01:20:31.320 Another thing is, like, the way that the porn industry functions, like, laws that are related to that also, like, I feel like affect people who are in it, what is put out there, what's allowed.

01:20:44.600 Okay, just going back to what you were saying, Matt, you're saying that it's a lack of male leadership which is ultimately to blame.

01:20:54.120 Let me ask you a question, though.

01:20:55.320 I'd say a lack of male discipline.

01:20:56.960 Male, okay.

01:20:58.880 Well.

01:20:59.580 It's men's inability to say no to things that make them feel good in the moment.

01:21:03.280 Such as casual sex?

01:21:06.080 Yeah, yeah, promiscuous sex.

01:21:07.200 One of the biggest problems I have with the red pill community is this hand-waving of male promiscuity.

01:21:12.840 It's this admonishment of female promiscuity and then hand-waving of male promiscuity.

01:21:16.500 It's equally as bad.

01:21:17.520 Let's be honest.

01:21:18.320 It's terrible.

01:21:19.300 Well, I think the difference is, though, is that there are more promiscuous...

01:21:24.940 Jesus, people need to fix their brakes.

01:21:26.960 Fuck.

01:21:28.040 Okay.

01:21:29.780 Oh, it's a pause.

01:21:30.920 Okay.

01:21:31.120 Okay.

01:21:31.180 The thing is, though, as far as, like, the hand-waving of male promiscuity, I agree with you.

01:21:40.700 Like, I don't think male promiscuity is a good thing.

01:21:44.220 I'm someone who believes, like, in the value of relationships.

01:21:48.980 The thing is, though, is that I think there are more promiscuous women than there are promiscuous men.

01:21:55.960 An average woman, a below-average woman, if she was so inclined to be promiscuous, could do so very easily.

01:22:03.620 I'm not so you could say the same thing about a below-average man.

01:22:06.780 This is what I would say.

01:22:08.040 I would include pornographic addiction in male promiscuity.

01:22:12.200 Is that fair?

01:22:12.700 Do you think that's true?

01:22:13.720 Well, I mean...

01:22:14.060 Because those men are being fulfilled and satiated in just the same way, and as a result of that pornographic addiction,

01:22:19.100 and they're watching porn every single day, sometimes multiple times a day,

01:22:21.780 they're opting out of pursuing real-life women and bettering themselves in the pursuit of pursuing real-life women.

01:22:27.160 Sure.

01:22:27.360 They're totally comfortable with that dopamine drip of pornographic content.

01:22:32.300 I would put that under the umbrella of male promiscuity.

01:22:35.360 Well, it's a little bit shifting the goalposts, but I kind of see where you're going with that.

01:22:42.400 I mean, the outcome is, like, effectively the same, though, right?

01:22:44.880 Sort of the form is different, but the outcome is the same.

01:22:47.840 Men are opting out of traditional relationships.

01:22:49.940 But, okay, if we're talking about specifically the term promiscuity, that's strictly related to sexual encounters.

01:22:58.260 If you want to make that into an umbrella term that includes male-consuming pornography...

01:23:03.280 Let's replace it with, like, profane or perverse sexual conduct or something.

01:23:10.060 I think the porn thing's a separate issue.

01:23:12.120 If we're speaking strictly about promiscuity, you can very well make the argument that men consuming porn could very well be taking themselves out of the sexual marketplace

01:23:26.080 because they're fulfilling their sexual needs through porn, although there are certainly men who watch porn and still engage in casual sex or watch porn

01:23:34.020 or who are in relationships with women, but there's probably a good amount of men who consume porn,

01:23:42.840 and that fulfills their need or stifles their need to pursue actual sex with women.

01:23:49.800 So the point I'd like to make, though, is if we're going to say, okay, well, promiscuity in men is just as bad or worse as promiscuity in women,

01:24:00.860 well, let's look at the numbers, I would argue that there are far more women who are engaging in casual sex or promiscuity

01:24:07.480 than there are men engaging in casual sex and promiscuity.

01:24:11.720 There certainly are men who are promiscuous.

01:24:13.720 However, there are more women who are capable of...

01:24:17.400 It's very easy to be promiscuous as a woman.

01:24:19.860 No doubt. Yeah.

01:24:20.520 It's much harder to be...

01:24:22.580 If you're a real, like, attractive guy or you've got charisma or you've got some status, you've got some money...

01:24:26.780 Do you have statistics on this or is this just something that you think?

01:24:29.520 It's self-evident.

01:24:30.280 Can I ask you a question?

01:24:31.260 It's self-evident. Hold on. Let me just address her point.

01:24:33.500 I want to say...

01:24:34.260 Let me just address her thing. Go ahead.

01:24:36.180 Okay, no. Go ahead.

01:24:37.400 Well, you said, do I have statistics on this?

01:24:40.140 Yeah.

01:24:40.440 Would you agree that any single girl here at the table at 8.30 p.m. on Tuesday,

01:24:47.800 if she was so inclined, could probably, like, go out to the street or go download the dating app

01:24:51.560 and get sex tonight if they were so inclined.

01:24:55.660 Well, I don't even need to ask you.

01:24:57.480 I know any single girl here at this table, you could download the dating app,

01:25:01.660 you could walk on the street, just go up to a guy, say, hey, do you want to have sex?

01:25:06.800 Might not be the first, might not be the second, but you will get a guy who will sleep with you.

01:25:11.840 Whereas, as a guy, unless you're, like, super top-tier dude or super charismatic, good luck.

01:25:19.680 But women are not doing that.

01:25:21.600 But it's the capability.

01:25:24.260 Okay, but there's a difference because once you said the capability...

01:25:27.120 Can you just put the mic down just to 10?

01:25:28.420 Once you said capability, and the second time you said that women are more promiscuous, so...

01:25:34.140 There are more women who engage in casual sex and promiscuity than there are men.

01:25:38.380 You don't have a statistic for that.

01:25:39.620 Well, here, I can pull it up.

01:25:41.000 So, Eric, could you pull up that chart?

01:25:42.700 You've pulled it up a bunch of times.

01:25:43.820 Well, I agree and disagree because if men were the gatekeepers of sex,

01:25:48.520 I think that their percentage of promiscuity would be a lot more than women would, honestly.

01:25:55.320 Like, ultimately, men and women are very different.

01:25:57.780 They're, like, they use each other for very different things.

01:26:01.080 Like, men, it is their duty to protect, provide, and everything like that, be financially well.

01:26:06.200 So, that's what women seek.

01:26:07.580 Women use men for their money.

01:26:08.720 Like I said, women are the gatekeepers of sex, so that's what men seek.

01:26:13.740 Like, that's what men want even more.

01:26:15.680 Do you have the...

01:26:16.680 I think the bigger problem is that we have a society of...

01:26:22.100 Here, we'll come back to it.

01:26:22.940 Men and women who engage in casual sex, who devalue relationships, who devalue monogamous relationships,

01:26:31.960 and think that somehow this lifestyle will make them happy or fulfill them,

01:26:36.880 when statistically, that's just not true either.

01:26:38.960 It's statistically proven that women, especially, but people who are in monogamous, committed relationships are happier,

01:26:48.020 and have...

01:26:48.820 And actually, men who are married are more successful as well.

01:26:52.060 So, women are happier, men are happier and more successful,

01:26:55.140 and society betters...

01:26:58.540 Is bettered because of it.

01:27:00.020 And we, as women, I don't know how you feel, but we've been told this lie that somehow engaging in casual sex

01:27:07.160 or allowing ourselves to be objectified or whatever terminology we want to use,

01:27:11.740 and I want to be sensitive about it, is somehow empowering.

01:27:15.720 Do you guys feel empowered by those things?

01:27:18.360 I mean, truthfully.

01:27:19.640 And if you do, that's fine.

01:27:20.740 I want to hear...

01:27:21.040 You mean through sex?

01:27:22.500 Yeah.

01:27:22.740 Um, personally, no.

01:27:26.820 No.

01:27:27.300 I've always been...

01:27:28.580 I mean, this is weird for me to say, but on the more conservative side.

01:27:33.040 Um, so, I mean, no.

01:27:35.580 What do you think that you want out of relationships?

01:27:38.720 Or a relationship?

01:27:40.280 Um, emotional security.

01:27:42.200 Um, just someone to share and grow with.

01:27:45.560 Um, you know, some...

01:27:47.600 A strong leader, obviously.

01:27:49.720 Um, someone to...

01:27:51.380 Show me how to do things.

01:27:53.900 Um.

01:27:54.820 I feel like most women feel the same way.

01:27:57.320 Is that not true?

01:27:58.560 Um, I would say I have a feeling of empowerment related to that a little bit.

01:28:05.420 Like, through my job, I feel like is related to sex,

01:28:08.920 so I was able to support myself in a way to be able to educate myself better,

01:28:14.880 take care of myself, have world experiences,

01:28:18.040 and, like, build myself into a person that I was...

01:28:23.780 I don't think I would have been able to become without that.

01:28:26.580 Do you think that it has more to do with the fact that you had money to be able to create

01:28:31.360 the lifestyle that you wanted?

01:28:32.980 A little bit, but also I've learned a lot about people, like, interactions,

01:28:37.620 all kinds of things.

01:28:40.720 But I think money is a big part of it.

01:28:43.380 Yeah.

01:28:43.860 And also, I mean, you said that you were in too serious relationships.

01:28:48.200 I wouldn't say, like, casual sex is something that is so much related to me with that,

01:28:53.080 because even though I work in a very sexual industry...

01:28:57.780 I was a dancer for many years, too.

01:28:59.400 I don't know if I mentioned that.

01:29:00.780 I was a stripper for a very long time.

01:29:02.540 So even though I worked in that industry, there was a long time during that where I was celibate

01:29:07.320 or I was dating someone else in another country, so I wasn't having, like, sex.

01:29:13.300 If you were given the option, would you want that sort of traditional relationship

01:29:16.260 where the husband is financially providing and you're maybe a stay-at-home wife or mother?

01:29:20.920 I wouldn't like to say financially providing, but everything else.

01:29:26.140 Like, I like a partnership.

01:29:27.360 Like, love is something that is very important to me.

01:29:32.260 I like, like, a monogamous relationship with someone.

01:29:36.900 I, like, I understand a lot about relationships.

01:29:39.320 I know what I'm willing to give and, like, ready to give to someone.

01:29:44.600 I'm a very nurturing person, so I would like to share that with somebody.

01:29:48.620 You wouldn't want to be financially dependent on a man?

01:29:50.800 No.

01:29:51.560 Okay.

01:29:51.840 I would like to have someone who contributes with me, and if you have more success than

01:29:58.960 that, that's great.

01:30:00.580 But I wouldn't ever want to be financially dependent on a man.

01:30:03.580 I've always been, like, very financially dependent on myself, and I can't imagine not having that.

01:30:11.880 Like, what if something happened, you know?

01:30:13.660 Of course you don't want to think that, but, yeah.

01:30:16.860 Would you expect to be able to continue doing sort of sexual content whilst also being married or becoming a mother?

01:30:24.100 It depends.

01:30:25.560 Like, if someone was requesting that I stop doing that and they were able to, like, provide for me to replace that, I would consider it.

01:30:37.080 Like, I feel like with me dating, it's very important to talk about with anyone that I'm going to be with, and I really like to try and understand more, like, what that would be like for them.

01:30:51.620 Like, that perspective of always being on the spotlight, a lot of perceived attention.

01:30:56.340 So, I feel like also with dating someone like that, with someone dating me, one second.

01:31:05.100 Happiness is an inappropriate metric for marriage statistics because it is an emotional state of mind.

01:31:11.320 Happiness comes and goes.

01:31:13.560 It fluctuates, so what's the point of using that for marriage stats?

01:31:18.220 Common mistake by Trad Cons.

01:31:20.900 There's actually, I mean, this is a very curious thing.

01:31:23.000 There's longitudinal happiness indexes that talk a lot about this.

01:31:25.820 I can, I'll try to keep this PC.

01:31:30.500 Men that don't get married in their 40s and 50s, they are 300% more depressed than married men, and their rate of terminal depression is 200% increased.

01:31:42.960 Men that are unmarried in their 40s to 50s.

01:31:45.320 And for women, it's a little bit less.

01:31:46.580 It's like 200% rate of increased depression, and then 150 or so rate of increased terminal depression.

01:31:52.580 So, if you want to talk about the ramifications of not being in a more traditional relationship, being unmarried, it actually doesn't manifest very well.

01:32:02.000 I wonder what the difference, though, is between men who have never been married, men who are single, and men who have been divorced.

01:32:09.240 Oh, they had very bad divorces, you mean?

01:32:10.580 I don't know if there's any stats on that, but I do want to bring it back to, we do have the stats.

01:32:16.820 Eric, can you pull up the stats?

01:32:18.120 This is a general social survey.

01:32:22.340 The Washington Post reported on this, most recently as of 2018.

01:32:26.500 So, young men driving the decline in sex.

01:32:28.700 Share of men and women between ages 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year.

01:32:34.300 So, 28% of men versus 18% of women.

01:32:37.940 I think this graph would essentially prove that there are more women engaging in casual sex than there are men.

01:32:47.240 There's also something from Pew Research.

01:32:50.640 Eric, if you can look in the infographics tab, there's Pew Men More Single and Pew Men More Single 2.

01:32:56.900 And this is more recent than that 2018 GSS survey that the Washington Post reported on.

01:33:04.480 Eric, let me know when you have those pulled up.

01:33:06.800 There should be two of them.

01:33:08.360 Was that last study single women?

01:33:10.280 Is it single men and women, or is it both?

01:33:14.240 Which one?

01:33:15.300 The one you just pulled up, was it single?

01:33:17.380 Is that accounting for people in relationships, or just single men and women?

01:33:20.900 Well, it's the share of men and women between ages 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year.

01:33:26.040 Yeah, so some of them are in relationships.

01:33:29.760 I'm just saying it's like a...

01:33:30.560 Well, I'm not sure how is that relevant to the statistic.

01:33:33.480 I'm just trying to...

01:33:34.200 Because there's a difference between having casual sex and being in a monogamous relationship,

01:33:38.660 which is the point that you were making.

01:33:40.720 Okay, hold on.

01:33:41.940 Eric, can you pull up the initial graph so we can...

01:33:44.480 The initial one?

01:33:47.780 Oh, did you X out of it?

01:33:49.120 No.

01:33:49.280 So, it doesn't really differentiate, but I mean, I suppose some of these people are

01:34:00.880 in sexless relationships, but it's talking about reporting no sex in the past year.

01:34:05.960 So, I'm trying to understand where the relation...

01:34:10.160 Whether if they're in a relationship or not has any bearing on this specific infographic.

01:34:16.420 Because you...

01:34:17.660 The point that you were making was that women are...

01:34:20.800 This is what you said, that women are more promiscuous than men.

01:34:24.800 So, you're showing whether or not they've had those encounters,

01:34:28.980 but you're not saying whether or not they're in a relationship or single.

01:34:31.920 Well, and maybe your next statistic talks about single ones,

01:34:35.240 but I'm just saying specifically for that one.

01:34:37.280 So, I'm just...

01:34:37.980 The case that you were making was that women are more promiscuous than men,

01:34:41.560 and I want to know the statistics specifically on how single women are more promiscuous.

01:34:47.500 I think this is...

01:34:48.160 But the graph that...

01:34:48.700 The graph just showed that there are a greater proportion of women

01:34:53.540 who have reported having sex than men.

01:34:58.640 Yeah, but promiscuity...

01:34:59.840 But that could be women in relationships.

01:35:01.360 Exactly.

01:35:01.960 But typically in a relationship, you've paired off one-to-one.

01:35:05.900 Therefore, if there's a larger proportion of women who are engaging...

01:35:11.380 It's plausible that there are...

01:35:14.380 Well, I think this is actually the case,

01:35:16.300 that there's women who think they're in relationships with a guy

01:35:20.280 when really that guy has multiple women.

01:35:24.200 But that would suggest that...

01:35:26.380 I mean, in any case, let's see the other infographic.

01:35:28.860 You did pull up both of them, right?

01:35:35.960 Okay, the share of single men in the U.S. who are looking for dates or relationship

01:35:39.560 has declined since 2019.

01:35:43.080 Okay, so that shows that...

01:35:45.400 Wait, the share of single...

01:35:46.680 Percent of single U.S. adults who say they are looking for a committed romantic relationship

01:35:51.760 and her casual dates.

01:35:52.500 So single men, single women, 61%.

01:35:55.740 This is in 2019.

01:35:58.300 I think the other one's actually more important.

01:36:00.340 So single men, 50% versus single women.

01:36:02.980 I think it's the other one that's more relevant than number two.

01:36:06.040 Okay, 3 in 10 Americans report being single.

01:36:09.540 But this varies by age, and this next one's important, by gender.

01:36:13.240 So 3 in 10 Americans report being single.

01:36:16.060 Between the ages of 18 to 29, 63% of men are reporting being single.

01:36:21.960 Oh, fuck.

01:36:22.560 Alvin, Sam donated $100.

01:36:25.500 Stay safe, even if those stats may be true.

01:36:28.760 That does not help address the declining marriage rates.

01:36:32.440 Men shouldn't be getting married just to prove a point that they won't get depression

01:36:36.460 or be a criminal, especially when you consider the financial risks.

01:36:40.960 Yo, Alvin, Sam, good to see you in the chat.

01:36:42.780 Thank you, man.

01:36:43.480 Yeah, I will say there's a lot of misinformation about divorce rates in the U.S.

01:36:46.680 A lot of people will repeat this trope that 50% of marriages in the U.S. end in divorce,

01:36:50.940 it's actually around 45%.

01:36:52.280 And then if you look even deeper at that, if you look at first-time marriage,

01:36:56.420 so if you're a man and a woman who are both getting married for the first time,

01:36:59.040 that national divorce rate average is actually 35%.

01:37:01.520 Because if people are getting married, let's say you're on your second marriage,

01:37:05.180 your divorce rate goes up from 44 on average, sorry, from 35 on average up to 63.

01:37:09.860 And then if it's your third marriage, your divorce rate goes up to around 70 or 71%.

01:37:14.500 So this 44% national average stat is getting sort of inflated by people

01:37:19.180 that are on their second or third divorce or people that are, sorry,

01:37:23.100 they're getting divorced super quickly and sort of flippantly.

01:37:26.680 And then it's sort of different by the area of socioeconomic or racial demographics.

01:37:31.460 If you look at two, like my wife and I are both white.

01:37:35.000 We both got married for the first time.

01:37:36.560 We're not on our second marriage or second divorce.

01:37:39.040 Our national average divorce rate is 13%.

01:37:41.280 So suddenly you start sort of looking at the nuance of these divorce rates

01:37:44.800 and it's like, well, it's actually maybe not as bad as you think it is.

01:37:47.180 We all are thinking 50%.

01:37:48.540 It's actually, for my demographic, it's 13%.

01:37:50.740 It's not as bad as you've sort of been ingrained to think it is

01:37:53.340 because these numbers are, like I said, they're sort of stat padded

01:37:56.080 by people that are serially getting divorced over and over and over again.

01:38:00.200 I think there's a certain amount of anti-marriage

01:38:04.080 and anti-family propaganda in the country sort of trying to compel you guys

01:38:07.660 from not getting married, but what's that?

01:38:10.540 Are you the propagandist?

01:38:12.100 You're the propagandist.

01:38:13.260 I'm the anti-marriage propaganda arm, propaganda minister.

01:38:17.460 In any case, Alvin, Sam, thank you very much for your two TTSs there.

01:38:22.820 Really appreciate your support.

01:38:23.820 Good to see you in the chat, man.

01:38:24.920 Let's pull back up that stat I was kind of getting to.

01:38:27.640 So the big one is gender here.

01:38:29.460 Three in ten Americans report being single,

01:38:31.840 and that's just taking everybody into account.

01:38:34.560 But it varies by age and gender.

01:38:36.460 If you look at ages 18 to 29, if you go to about the fourth grouping down,

01:38:43.940 it says men ages 18 to 29 are reporting being, 63% are reporting being single.

01:38:49.720 In that same age cohort for women just below it, ages 18 to 29,

01:38:54.360 only 34% are reporting being single.

01:38:57.400 So what's going on there?

01:38:59.460 That's very shocking that in their exact same age cohort,

01:39:03.760 you have women who are not single,

01:39:05.800 but you have a large swath of men who are.

01:39:11.180 So it could be explained by, for example, perhaps,

01:39:13.940 women might be dating an older age demographic.

01:39:19.100 Women, generally speaking, it skews, I think, on average,

01:39:23.060 maybe two, three years older than them typically, at least for marriage.

01:39:25.940 But it would suggest to me that you have a not minimal cohort of women

01:39:35.160 who are dating a small pool of men.

01:39:38.920 I think you've seen a lot of data come out of Tinder or only, what's it called?

01:39:44.000 I know they're fans.

01:39:44.680 OKCupid, this dating site, where it sort of highlights this, this is to your point,

01:39:49.000 this sort of sexually hipergamous situation where it's like the top,

01:39:51.740 this is your giga chad, your 8 out of 10, 9 out of 10, 10 out of 10 guys

01:39:54.800 that are having free range and having sex with women from,

01:40:00.300 men are not so picky sexually, right?

01:40:02.100 A 10 out of 10 guy will sometimes be in the mood to have sex with a 5 out of 10 girl.

01:40:05.220 Sure.

01:40:05.360 Yeah, whatever, it's a bad day, whatever.

01:40:06.740 And so, yeah, you're having the top giga chad type of guys

01:40:09.020 that are sort of having free reign amongst all of the girls.

01:40:11.440 And then that means that 70 or 80% of men are not having access to these women.

01:40:15.700 I think what's happening is you have some hyper-sexual,

01:40:22.240 hyper-promiscuous men at the very top.

01:40:24.740 And then you have some, like, mid-, medium-tier,

01:40:30.380 and that's a small percentage of men that are, like, hyper-promiscuous,

01:40:34.300 where they'll, like, you know.

01:40:36.020 You'll have some women like that, too.

01:40:37.780 Then you'll have a higher proportion of women who are, like,

01:40:40.980 let's say, medium levels of promiscuity.

01:40:43.540 And then you'll have, like, a huge swath of men

01:40:47.080 that are basically incapable of engaging in hookup culture or promiscuity

01:40:51.280 simply by virtue, simply out of necessity.

01:40:54.120 They can't engage in hookup culture or promiscuity

01:40:58.060 because they just don't have the looks or the charisma

01:41:00.560 or, you know, whatever it may be.

01:41:03.380 And just the last thing I'd point out,

01:41:05.940 if it was the case that there's equal levels of promiscuity

01:41:10.580 between men and women, how would you then explain, for example,

01:41:13.880 the incel phenomenon which doesn't exist in women?

01:41:17.760 What's the incel phenomenon?

01:41:19.100 Are you familiar with incel?

01:41:20.520 Yes.

01:41:20.880 Oh, incel, so that stands for involuntarily celibate.

01:41:24.860 So basically men who sometimes they add, like, a period of time for it.

01:41:31.740 But basically men who are involuntarily celibate,

01:41:35.040 despite their want and desire to have a sexual relationship with a girl,

01:41:39.440 either they're unattractive or they are severely lacking on some social front

01:41:44.600 or, you know, whatever it may be, they cannot get sex.

01:41:47.880 I think what's more sad about this conversation is that we're living in an era

01:41:52.820 where promiscuity and multiple partners engaging in casual sex

01:41:58.380 is somehow glorified over having a monogamous relationship.

01:42:02.180 So I don't know about the women here.

01:42:04.320 I feel like we've kind of been on this tangent for a little bit,

01:42:06.500 but I'm genuinely curious, like, do each of you want to find a life partner

01:42:11.040 to find somebody that you can be vulnerable with to give your love to

01:42:14.680 to mutually take care of each other?

01:42:16.540 Well, I have a question for you.

01:42:17.980 Do you think monogamy is, like, the right way, like, the only way it should be?

01:42:22.800 Like, do you not think non-monogamous relationships are okay?

01:42:26.400 No, I don't think non-monogamous relationships are okay, and here's why.

01:42:31.300 I think that in order to be fully vulnerable

01:42:35.880 and to give yourself fully into your relationship, let's put it that way,

01:42:40.480 it has to be with one person.

01:42:42.940 And when you're in a monogamous relationship,

01:42:45.560 it opens room for full sacrifice, full love, full giving of the other person.

01:42:50.400 And it allows us, especially as women, to be fully vulnerable with our man,

01:42:54.460 knowing that he's going to take care of us

01:42:56.160 and that we don't have to put up this, you know, protection over our hearts

01:43:01.040 and over, you know, us as individuals and our spirits.

01:43:05.460 So I think that, yes, relationships need to be monogamous.

01:43:09.600 And, again, if we look at the satisfaction and the fulfillment

01:43:12.660 that people get out of relationships, statistically,

01:43:17.020 partners feel happier and more fulfilled

01:43:19.120 when they're in monogamous relationships.

01:43:20.880 And I'm not saying that...

01:43:22.220 Is that a fact?

01:43:23.240 It's a fact, actually.

01:43:24.100 It was done by the American Family Study, I believe.

01:43:26.660 But are we just going to gloss over our back and forth on the promiscuity thing?

01:43:30.380 You never proved that.

01:43:31.600 So you brought up a statistic that did not talk about...

01:43:34.640 You brought up the singleness, okay?

01:43:36.760 But you said...

01:43:37.380 Well, Maddie, you're taking sides.

01:43:38.180 No, I will say, okay, so I do agree.

01:43:40.700 Okay, I do agree that women are more promiscuous,

01:43:44.200 but the stats that you brought up are 63% of men are single.

01:43:48.140 That doesn't mean they're not promiscuous.

01:43:49.960 Right.

01:43:50.100 Can I say something real quick?

01:43:50.600 Because only single men can be promiscuous.

01:43:52.940 I think that men would be as promiscuous as women if they could be,

01:43:56.320 but they don't have the options.

01:43:57.960 Okay, regardless of whether we think it or not,

01:44:00.400 based on the statistics that you showed,

01:44:02.540 there's not sufficient evidence.

01:44:04.400 So if you can bring me sufficient evidence

01:44:06.460 that shows the statistics on single women and promiscuity,

01:44:10.500 then we can have that conversation in more depth.

01:44:13.540 Also...

01:44:13.940 But the ones that you brought were not.

01:44:15.440 Like, so...

01:44:17.200 Hold on, but the sex frequency...

01:44:18.540 Okay, here, pull up the sex frequency one.

01:44:20.720 Hold on, we'll come back to you.

01:44:21.860 That doesn't account for women in relationships.

01:44:24.220 It just says...

01:44:24.760 I don't see...

01:44:25.320 World study on men and women.

01:44:27.060 It doesn't say anything about single,

01:44:29.160 multiple partners or anything like that.

01:44:31.020 And you're using specifically the word promiscuous.

01:44:34.160 I mean, maybe I'm...

01:44:35.420 Hold on, keep it up.

01:44:36.800 Maybe I'm R-slurred here,

01:44:38.340 but I'm failing to see how your argument about whether,

01:44:44.600 you know...

01:44:45.320 What does promiscuous mean?

01:44:46.760 With this specific graph...

01:44:47.880 I have a perspective here.

01:44:50.320 Okay, so let's just say you're right, right?

01:44:53.200 And women are more promiscuous.

01:44:55.960 And then what?

01:44:57.120 Like, men are better?

01:44:59.740 Like, what are we trying to argue here?

01:45:01.540 Like, are men better or are women better?

01:45:04.120 Like, I think that they're different.

01:45:05.700 And all of these...

01:45:07.480 Everything we're talking about is so situational.

01:45:10.260 Like, this isn't, like, such a black and white issue.

01:45:13.020 Like, oh, are women worse or are men worse?

01:45:15.780 Like, I feel like it's, like, pitting them against each other more

01:45:19.720 instead of, like, talking about, like, ways that we can try

01:45:23.020 and understand each other.

01:45:24.040 And, like, it's okay for some people to have faults in certain ways

01:45:27.480 and others in other ways.

01:45:28.680 Thank you for saying this.

01:45:29.860 So we could, like, instead of, like, arguing who's worse, like, then what?

01:45:34.780 It degrades women to say that women are more promiscuous than men.

01:45:40.700 So it's not about who's better.

01:45:42.240 But if you're going to make a statement about them...

01:45:43.820 How is it degrading women if it's just true?

01:45:46.920 What does promiscuous mean?

01:45:48.540 What is promiscuity?

01:45:49.640 Promiscuity would, essentially, if you...

01:45:52.400 My view of it would be if you engage in casual sex.

01:45:55.880 Why does that have to be degrading?

01:45:57.380 The way that he's packaging it is...

01:45:59.380 You engage in casual sex, you have multiple partners, et cetera, et cetera.

01:46:02.620 Yeah.

01:46:03.140 I think men are evolutionarily designed to be more promiscuous.

01:46:08.240 Men have a higher sex drive.

01:46:10.280 I agree with that.

01:46:10.580 Men have a higher sex drive.

01:46:11.620 However, men are less able to act on said...

01:46:16.900 Like, it's much harder for men to secure sex than it is for women to secure sex.

01:46:21.680 Is it because women can choose who they sleep with?

01:46:23.900 Or men just sleep with anyone?

01:46:25.740 No, it's just...

01:46:26.620 Why is it harder?

01:46:27.080 It's standards?

01:46:27.780 Okay, here.

01:46:28.540 For men.

01:46:29.020 Why do you think it's harder for men?

01:46:30.460 Women sleep with who they want.

01:46:33.160 Men sleep with who they can.

01:46:34.700 Why do you think that is?

01:46:36.180 Well, there's a biological basis.

01:46:38.240 I think women are the sexual selectors, for example.

01:46:41.700 But also women are more selective.

01:46:43.720 Women are more picky.

01:46:44.700 Like they have standards?

01:46:45.780 It's because for 99...

01:46:46.960 Maybe some women are like that because they're worried about being seen as promiscuous or getting judged,

01:46:53.220 so that leads them to be more picky.

01:46:55.280 For all of human history, prior to advent of birth control in, what, the 1970s,

01:46:58.720 if a woman is having promiscuous sex, there's a very high chance that she'll get pregnant

01:47:01.740 and she'll be tied down to a man that she might not even love.

01:47:03.940 Her body will go through enormous changes for nine months.

01:47:05.980 She'll have to take care of a baby.

01:47:07.260 She'll have to grow a fetus inside of her.

01:47:08.860 That's why, I mean, biologically, female promiscuity is generally not a great thing.

01:47:12.820 That's why women have evolved, like, not to want to do that.

01:47:16.060 They want to lock down one man.

01:47:17.380 That's how a woman ought to behave, which is why, generally, if a woman is super promiscuous these days,

01:47:20.720 it's, like, sort of counter to her biological nature.

01:47:22.860 I would say that promiscuity in general is just not a great thing.

01:47:25.320 I agree with you, totally.

01:47:26.120 But men and women work hand in hand to create promiscuity.

01:47:28.800 I think we can all agree, like, anyone going out and being extremely promiscuous is not a good thing.

01:47:35.100 Shut it down.

01:47:35.600 2024, no promiscuity.

01:47:37.760 Shut it down.

01:47:38.780 Get married.

01:47:39.900 Have kids.

01:47:40.700 Get married.

01:47:41.460 Tie the knot.

01:47:42.140 Say no to promiscuity 2024.

01:47:43.700 Loving each other.

01:47:44.760 Being honest with each other.

01:47:46.720 You know, listening.

01:47:47.680 Hell yeah.

01:47:48.300 Seeing other people's perspectives.

01:47:50.720 You know, that's a good thing.

01:47:52.260 True.

01:47:52.520 Okay, but so I can answer your thing about, like, why are...

01:47:54.000 It's not a competition, y'all.

01:47:55.780 Okay, but I can...

01:47:56.380 It's not the men and women competition.

01:47:57.760 I can answer your thing as to why we're having this discussion, and it stemmed from this idea

01:48:02.020 that, well, men ought to be leaders, and it's, you know, men are to blame for the current

01:48:08.600 state of affairs between the sexes, and, I mean, my view is...

01:48:12.680 I didn't say that.

01:48:14.160 Okay, my view is, is that...

01:48:15.820 It sounds like you just want to be blamed.

01:48:17.800 I have no idea what you're talking about, but...

01:48:21.140 What's the...

01:48:21.740 What is it like...

01:48:22.260 I mean, I can explain it to you.

01:48:23.780 I'm the one blaming...

01:48:24.600 I'm a radical man blamer.

01:48:26.120 I blame men to the ultimate degree.

01:48:28.040 I'm a man hater.

01:48:29.060 I hate them.

01:48:29.560 But that's not good either, because we actually have a problem in our society where we've...

01:48:35.260 And we were kind of talking about this before the show, like, we've created this society

01:48:39.940 that nonstop bags on men and trashes on masculinity when...

01:48:45.820 And I'm not saying that all men are perfect.

01:48:48.320 They're certainly not, and men have failed society in many ways.

01:48:52.160 But this narrative that masculinity and men are toxic, they're bringing everything bad

01:48:58.100 to society is just, first of all, just certainly not true.

01:49:01.720 And it hurts men and also hurts women.

01:49:04.360 This narrative hurts women.

01:49:05.700 Yeah, and, like, I feel like as a woman who experiences that, I want to try and be more

01:49:10.140 understanding of what that's like for men and not just be, like, women are the only people

01:49:15.000 who experience that.

01:49:16.100 Like, we both experience that in different ways.

01:49:18.780 And I feel like sometimes women struggle with that, gets highlighted more, just maybe because

01:49:24.400 that's what we're going through in this time, but that doesn't mean that, like, it doesn't

01:49:27.240 exist for men, too.

01:49:30.340 Well, I'll say, I look at a lot of this...

01:49:32.160 Oh, here we go.

01:49:33.380 Joel Bell.

01:49:33.760 Joel Bell donated $99.

01:49:36.500 Lady, only 40% of men have reproduced historically, compared to 80% of women.

01:49:42.820 This has been proven through DNA research.

01:49:45.800 A quick Google search will show the studies.

01:49:48.880 Most men won't reproduce.

01:49:50.800 Women are, by their very nature, more promiscuous than men.

01:49:55.400 Like, okay.

01:49:56.280 You can't relate those things to each other.

01:49:59.780 You guys are so ridiculous.

01:50:01.720 Maybe someone should do an actual study on this, and then bring us the statistics, and

01:50:05.660 we can come back and discuss it.

01:50:07.300 I will say.

01:50:09.020 Let's go back to capability, though, because that's a big...

01:50:11.960 Hold up, wait.

01:50:12.760 Hold on.

01:50:13.520 This is the exact opposite of female promiscuity.

01:50:15.840 If 40% of men are breeding, and 80% of women are, that means that it's one man and multiple

01:50:20.140 women, more often than not.

01:50:21.400 That's actually male promiscuity.

01:50:23.160 What are you talking about?

01:50:23.940 That's the opposite of your point you're trying to make.

01:50:26.400 That's one man, two women.

01:50:28.540 Oh, God.

01:50:29.260 That's male promiscuity.

01:50:30.500 Here's the difference, is you could have one man who impregnates 20 women.

01:50:35.820 Yep.

01:50:36.020 So, you could have, like, a top tier of men that are capable of sleeping with, like, 100

01:50:44.500 women, but you might have 100 women who are more promiscuous than the average man.

01:50:49.900 I would say the average woman is more promiscuous than the average man, simply by virtue of the

01:50:55.280 fact that they are more capable.

01:50:56.860 That's the big thing.

01:50:58.220 Capability is a very important component of this discussion.

01:51:02.260 Women are more capable of being promiscuous.

01:51:04.260 Why is that a big thing, though?

01:51:05.760 Hold on.

01:51:05.980 Hold on.

01:51:06.020 Doc Venabilius donated 100 dollars.

01:51:08.020 Yeah, thank you, Doc.

01:51:08.680 Appreciate it.

01:51:09.160 The studies are indeed confounded by access to sex.

01:51:13.100 Capability.

01:51:13.560 If partners are adjusted by number of partners per sexually active individual or individual

01:51:18.580 sexual activity rate, then the few sexually active men will win the contest.

01:51:25.080 Word.

01:51:25.940 I feel like everybody is promiscuous, like.

01:51:28.340 Nope.

01:51:28.860 Nope.

01:51:29.140 That's not true.

01:51:30.040 We're all just some freaks.

01:51:31.820 Unfortunately, our society has created that narrative, though.

01:51:36.060 Right.

01:51:36.300 I'm just, like, generalizing here, but, like, I'm just saying, like, everybody is different.

01:51:43.860 Like, we're just, I'm just still confused where this argument is going of, like.

01:51:47.720 Well, we're having a conversation about it.

01:51:49.420 Yeah.

01:51:49.700 Okay.

01:51:49.920 So, I think we never got a chance to answer the question, though.

01:51:52.840 Like, what do women want?

01:51:54.080 Do you, like, if we did a survey of the women here, would you want to be in a committed relationship

01:51:59.160 where you felt you could be vulnerable and taken care of and that you could fully trust

01:52:02.760 the other person?

01:52:03.480 I feel like you could still do that in non-monogamous relationships.

01:52:07.120 I actually feel like it's a lot easier to feel fulfilled and satisfied in non-monogamous

01:52:12.520 relationships because you can go to.

01:52:14.800 Haram!

01:52:15.920 You can go to multiple people for different needs.

01:52:19.060 I mean, it's kind of, it's really hard when you expect, like, just one person to be your,

01:52:25.540 basically, a whole entire support system.

01:52:27.960 Sure.

01:52:28.640 Well, let's talk about that really quick, Ria.

01:52:31.200 Yeah, and I think in your pre-show information that you sent us, you said you wanted to talk

01:52:35.400 about monogamy and cheating and that, you said modern dating is problematic and most

01:52:40.080 people, you said most people should be non-monogamous.

01:52:44.600 I think people, that was a little bit extreme of me to say, but I think most people should

01:52:49.740 start considering, most people should start considering non-monogamy because.

01:52:55.980 So are you, are you non-monogamous?

01:52:57.780 I'm confused.

01:52:59.180 I'm considering it.

01:53:00.360 I'm figuring it out currently.

01:53:01.680 Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off there.

01:53:03.360 You said people should, should start considering non-monogamy because I didn't mean to cut you

01:53:08.020 off there.

01:53:08.340 I feel like society puts pressure on, you know, us individuals to only be in monogamous

01:53:16.760 relationships.

01:53:17.380 Like, a lot of people think monogamy is the right way to go.

01:53:20.640 There's a lot of negative, there's stigma around non-monogamous relationships.

01:53:25.560 And I feel like if society just started being more open-minded about non-monogamy, people

01:53:32.780 would be able to start exploring that option and there'd be less cheating because.

01:53:38.100 Less cheating?

01:53:38.600 Less cheating.

01:53:39.340 Yeah, because I feel like people don't want to be non-monogamous because they think it's

01:53:44.740 wrong.

01:53:45.340 Like, you were saying that.

01:53:46.920 You feel like monogamy is the right way to go about relationships.

01:53:49.480 But do you think that non-monogamous relationships are more successful than monogamous ones?

01:53:53.600 I feel like the happiest, most successful relationships come out of monogamous relationships.

01:53:58.000 That's true.

01:53:58.500 That's proven, actually.

01:53:59.780 I think it depends on the person.

01:54:01.380 Like, if you want to be, I think the issue is people think that, a lot of people think

01:54:07.380 that monogamy is the right way to go about relationships.

01:54:10.920 But if people were to be more open-minded about non-monogamous relationships and were given

01:54:16.640 like the opportunity or didn't feel bad about exploring it, then, you know.

01:54:22.140 So, my question would be, what do you think a relationship is and what do you want to get

01:54:27.000 out of it?

01:54:27.720 Because if it's just fulfilling desires, then that's, and you're saying that you'll feel

01:54:33.880 more satisfied or more fulfilled.

01:54:35.800 Just be single.

01:54:36.620 It's not a relationship at that point.

01:54:38.360 Well, I mean, I have a different opinion about that too.

01:54:41.900 But I will say, though, I mean, it's, we are more than our desires.

01:54:46.480 We are more than like our want to explore.

01:54:49.120 And I don't know about the women sitting here, but I know that when you're in a relationship

01:54:53.360 with somebody that you love and that you're committed to and you feel like you can trust

01:54:57.040 them fully, you feel the happiest.

01:54:59.320 You feel the most secure.

01:55:00.400 And statistics have shown that.

01:55:02.360 So, my question is like, what is it not possible to do that with more than one partner though?

01:55:06.900 I don't think she's saying it's not possible.

01:55:08.760 I think she's just saying like statistically, it's been shown from what we know so far that

01:55:15.060 that's how people react and function in monogamous relationships.

01:55:20.180 And there might even be statistics opposed to like polyamorous relationships.

01:55:25.620 Is that what you're talking about?

01:55:26.880 When you date, like when you are like in a relationship with more than one person, but

01:55:31.060 it's somehow just you two.

01:55:33.540 Or like you have rules within that.

01:55:35.000 So, it goes back to my question of what do you want out of a relationship and what do

01:55:39.420 you view a relationship like?

01:55:41.360 What do you think it should be?

01:55:43.180 I feel like a relationship to me is just two people coming together, sharing happiness

01:55:49.640 and enhancing each other's lives.

01:55:51.980 Two people.

01:55:52.600 Two.

01:55:53.140 Or, sorry.

01:55:54.220 Wait, so let's...

01:55:55.000 Obviously, I'm conditioned.

01:55:56.740 I as well am conditioned into thinking that, you know, monogamy is the default.

01:56:00.700 You should be.

01:56:01.120 That's good conditioning.

01:56:02.060 I love that conditioning.

01:56:02.800 I feel like I have some rewiring of my brain that I have to do because I honestly haven't...

01:56:11.520 I don't know too many people who are in non-monogamous relationships.

01:56:15.740 Yeah.

01:56:16.120 But those who I do know are very happy.

01:56:18.960 I mean, this is what I'll tell you.

01:56:20.080 Like, every single stat suggests that monogamous relationships, man, woman, here we go.

01:56:23.980 I cannot talk.

01:56:25.500 Thank you, Mr. Meeple.

01:56:28.100 What's the longest relationship any of y'all have in your family backgrounds?

01:56:32.360 And how do you view those relationships?

01:56:34.800 This is what every single stat shows, is that monogamous...

01:56:37.040 We'll come back to that one.

01:56:38.320 Monogamous relationships own.

01:56:39.720 Like, kids do better in monogamous relationships.

01:56:41.480 Spousal abuse is lower in monogamous relationships versus non-monogamous relationships.

01:56:45.600 There's less spousal jealousy.

01:56:47.580 Divorce rates are lower.

01:56:48.500 Or you can say divorce rates are crazy high.

01:56:50.600 Divorce rates are lower in monogamous man-woman relationships than non-monogamous relationships.

01:56:56.020 They just seem to work better.

01:56:57.600 Also, I can look just a basic equation.

01:57:00.080 Okay, 50% of my country's population is men.

01:57:02.540 50% of my country's population is women.

01:57:04.480 If I'm looking for a foundation with which to build my country, to build my society,

01:57:08.860 I'm looking at one man, one woman.

01:57:10.440 Because otherwise, you have an unequal balance.

01:57:11.940 And maybe you've got one woman that has 10 men or one man that has 10 women.

01:57:16.240 And that leads to some very curious, problematic sort of socio-problems, social problems.

01:57:22.780 Well, exactly.

01:57:22.800 You said your society.

01:57:24.640 But there are a lot of societies across the world that monogamy isn't the default.

01:57:30.800 And they're doing well, too.

01:57:32.100 Like which one?

01:57:32.680 That's actually not true.

01:57:33.380 Are you talking like Islamic countries?

01:57:34.940 I'm going to have to...

01:57:36.340 That's actually not true.

01:57:37.360 Get back to us on that one.

01:57:38.380 Randomly, I actually looked into the statistic the other day for my work.

01:57:42.840 Because I was just assessing abuse in cases of polygamist relationships a lot, obviously.

01:57:51.040 And I actually had the misunderstanding that this was very prevalent in Islamic societies.

01:57:56.540 And although it's more common in those societies, it's actually less than like 1% of the world

01:58:02.580 is in polygamist marriages or relationships.

01:58:07.220 Polyamorous, whatever the correct term is.

01:58:09.360 But anyway, so it's like less than 1%.

01:58:12.340 And actually, if you survey those women who are in those relationships, they don't feel happy.

01:58:17.160 Wait, question for you.

01:58:17.940 Was your previous relationship, was it non-monogamous?

01:58:21.760 I've only been in monogamous relationships.

01:58:23.920 Oh.

01:58:24.320 So then I'm just curious, why the big push to...

01:58:28.800 Why the big push on non-monogamy?

01:58:30.640 Well, I just feel like there's a lot of negative stigma about non-monogamous relationships.

01:58:36.960 And I just don't really see why.

01:58:40.340 I mean, personally, I've only been monogamous.

01:58:42.840 But if someone wants to be non-monogamous, I think it should be accepted.

01:58:48.240 And also, I actually saw...

01:58:49.620 Let's bring back shame.

01:58:50.140 No, but I saw a statistic, actually.

01:58:53.520 You guys can look it up.

01:58:54.560 But I think only 17% of societies around the world are wholly monogamous.

01:59:02.240 And I don't know.

01:59:03.200 You guys can fact check that.

01:59:04.560 But I think that's a statistic I saw.

01:59:07.020 Isn't...

01:59:07.440 Monogamy, I'm pretty sure, is a norm in most places.

01:59:10.140 When you say monogamy, are you talking about people that are together when one's not cheating?

01:59:13.580 Say that again.

01:59:14.480 Nogamy?

01:59:15.420 Did you say nogamy?

01:59:16.600 Monogamy.

01:59:17.040 Oh, okay, okay.

01:59:17.860 There's a missing syllable or some shit.

01:59:19.520 Yeah, I have a funny way of talking sometimes.

01:59:22.060 It's all good.

01:59:22.760 It's all good.

01:59:23.300 Can you understand me when, like...

01:59:25.060 Can you understand what I'm saying, though?

01:59:26.920 What?

01:59:27.480 There's some moment.

01:59:28.780 I'm kidding.

01:59:29.400 No relations outside of it.

01:59:31.140 Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

01:59:32.140 It's okay.

01:59:32.240 I mean, I know I mumble.

01:59:33.660 It's fine.

01:59:34.380 It's all good.

01:59:34.880 But when you say monogamy, are you talking about, like, people who are not cheating or presumed not cheating on each other?

01:59:41.640 Or, like, two people that agree to be together, but...

01:59:45.280 Not with anyone else.

01:59:46.040 They're actually not cheating.

01:59:47.300 Yeah, they're actually not cheating.

01:59:48.920 Like, it's two people who are very committed to each other that don't...

01:59:51.480 Well, how do they find that out?

01:59:51.500 Because people lie.

01:59:53.300 What?

01:59:55.260 Well, that's a non-monogamous relationship.

01:59:57.520 Yeah, so that would be non-monogamous or, like, cases of infidelity.

02:00:00.580 But how do they know if they say they're monogamous and they never get caught?

02:00:05.120 Okay, so you're comfortable throwing out the entire concept of monogamy because maybe, I don't know how many people, some people might be cheating.

02:00:10.560 I'm just asking.

02:00:12.940 Okay.

02:00:13.180 I'm just trying to get clarification.

02:00:16.440 All right.

02:00:16.980 Okay.

02:00:17.100 I think...

02:00:17.940 Oh, my...

02:00:19.240 Yo, Bender!

02:00:20.160 Good to see you, man.

02:00:20.860 Thank you.

02:00:21.240 Well, that's not even really the point.

02:00:38.020 The point is loving the child and having the family unit together.

02:00:41.860 I mean, unless they take a DNA test or take the proper steps to find out if it's theirs or not.

02:00:46.980 I mean, well, he does kind of raise a somewhat related point as to why, and I'll just touch on this and we'll continue on with the non-monogamy thing, but why, let's say, female promiscuity is more looked down upon than male promiscuity.

02:01:02.020 Let's say, for example, you're a man and you have 10 wives.

02:01:07.660 You know, in each instance, and assuming everybody's loyal to, well, the 10 women are loyal to the husband, you know that if those 10 women have children, they're all the one guy's kid.

02:01:23.200 However, if one woman has 10 husbands, you can't determine who the father is, historically speaking, yes.

02:01:32.380 Now, we have paternity tests.

02:01:35.820 We can establish who the father is.

02:01:37.740 However, that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and just culture and society where if, you know, men have a built-in...

02:01:48.600 We want to be able to guarantee paternity.

02:01:51.420 That's a real fear that men have that women can never experience, a paternity uncertainty.

02:01:57.860 So that's why female promiscuity from...

02:02:01.620 Men have a stronger revulsion, like, instinct to promiscuity.

02:02:08.960 The greater crisis here is that we've created a society that teaches us that we can have casual sex and that we don't need to be committed to one another.

02:02:22.840 And when in reality, men and women were created for each other.

02:02:26.900 Obviously, I'm Christian.

02:02:28.600 I believe that God created each of us for each other and that the union that God had in mind for men and women was one...

02:02:40.580 Was each of them coming together as husband and wife.

02:02:43.160 And as he shared, it's not just good for the person.

02:02:47.300 It's good for society.

02:02:48.180 It's good for the child.

02:02:49.100 It's good for society benefits from marriages.

02:02:51.660 Alvinson donated $100.

02:02:54.480 Stay safe.

02:02:55.500 Just because divorce rates are low does not equate to successful relationships.

02:03:00.980 Divorce is low because marriage is lower.

02:03:03.820 It's also cheaper to not get a divorce.

02:03:06.560 Divorce can be expensive.

02:03:08.680 Stay coping.

02:03:10.200 Oh, okay.

02:03:11.020 You're probably...

02:03:11.740 Okay, so marriage rates have been going down for 50 years since the 1970s, as have divorce rates.

02:03:16.380 So, yeah, if you look at the declining divorce rates and declining marriage rates, divorce rates are actually going down faster than the declining marriage rates.

02:03:24.520 But no doubt, the fewer people that get married, the fewer people get divorced because there's fewer people that even have the option to get divorced.

02:03:30.360 I'm talking about the fact that if I can spout off all of the divorce stats again, everyone's been taught 50% divorce rate.

02:03:37.040 It's actually like 45%.

02:03:38.400 That number is stat padded by people that get divorced 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 times.

02:03:42.880 If you're a person that's never been married, marrying another person that's ever been married, your national average divorce rate is around 35%.

02:03:48.680 But it's different for various socio or racial economic groups.

02:03:55.360 It's, like I said, it's not as bad.

02:03:58.400 You can still say it's too high.

02:03:59.340 It is too high.

02:04:00.220 So for my group, for my demographic, it's 13%.

02:04:03.520 The first time married individuals getting divorced, I've got a white wife.

02:04:06.800 I'm a white man, 13% is what it is.

02:04:09.140 Still too high.

02:04:10.100 I think everyone should, you know, we need to, I would make a lot of changes about no-fault divorce, things like that.

02:04:15.600 I want people to vet their partners more seriously before they get married in the first place to help prevent some of these problems from manifesting at all.

02:04:21.440 But my point with the divorce stats and divorce rates is that it's not as bad as you've been conditioned to think it is.

02:04:28.040 My point is I think there's a certain degree in our society of anti-marriage and anti-family propaganda compelling young men to just opt out of the marriage dating pool and of the child-rearing pool.

02:04:40.040 That's what I think.

02:04:40.660 And women suffer from that.

02:04:42.500 Okay, we're going to talk about the marriage stuff a little later.

02:04:46.540 We do need to get caught up on a couple chats here.

02:04:49.620 So we have, and by the way, Mr. Meatball, we will get back to your question.

02:04:54.180 Brandon Mells, hey, thank you, man.

02:04:55.300 Good to see you in the chat again.

02:04:56.860 Holy crap, every time the girl with the blue, actually, can I have you read this one?

02:05:00.900 Yeah.

02:05:02.660 Holy crap, every time the girl with the blue hair speaks, I feel like I'm having a stroke.

02:05:08.620 Can I put this video to 1.5 speed?

02:05:12.960 Also, hi, Brian, and hi, Madison.

02:05:17.880 Hey, thank you.

02:05:18.880 Good to see you in the chat, Brandon.

02:05:20.040 Do you have a response to him?

02:05:21.680 That was directed at you.

02:05:22.960 Yes, you could probably.

02:05:24.140 Look closer to the mic.

02:05:24.820 You could probably screen record it and speed it up and watch it in your free time on 1.5 speed if you want to.

02:05:36.040 And also, are you sure you're not actually just having a stroke?

02:05:40.700 Okay, Brandon Mells, there you have it directly from her.

02:05:44.340 I think you've had really great contributions to this conversation.

02:05:46.540 Thank you so much.

02:05:47.580 You as well.

02:05:48.300 Okay, Doc Van Abelis.

02:05:50.660 Matt, I'm going to try your gum.

02:05:52.020 Also, I agree that the collapse of the family, especially the loss of paternal leadership, has led to decline in discipline of young men, as well as poor role modeling for young ladies.

02:06:02.440 Absolutely.

02:06:03.100 Yeah, absolutely.

02:06:03.940 Yeah, like I said a moment ago, one-fourth of children right now in the U.S. don't have a dad in the house.

02:06:08.460 If you look at all crime across all aspects of crime, this is assault, this is violent crime, this is robbery, petty crime, this is all sorts of sexual abuse crime.

02:06:18.860 There's one common denominator amongst almost every single criminal, they come from a single-parent household.

02:06:25.820 It is very, very bad for kids to come from a broken family.

02:06:29.420 So, like I said, if I could snap my fingers and fix one problem in our society, it would be to fix the traditional household.

02:06:35.320 Why is it bad, though, just to come from a single-parent?

02:06:38.000 I come from a single-parent home.

02:06:39.840 So do I.

02:06:40.220 I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't think Matt is not saying you are destined to turn out bad if you did grow up in a single-parent household.

02:06:54.340 However, the likelihood, it's better to grow up in a two-parent household.

02:07:00.280 If you're a fetus inside of a pregnant woman's stomach right now, you should be hoping I've got a mom and dad, not just a mom and no dad.

02:07:06.960 I mean, as a fetus, do you even know what a mom and dad are?

02:07:09.040 Oh, gosh, okay.

02:07:10.520 Here we go.

02:07:11.460 Here we go.

02:07:11.900 They'll find out.

02:07:12.700 What is a hypothetical?

02:07:13.880 Children do better in mom and dad households where they have not just the example and the love from the mom, but also the example and the love from the dad.

02:07:24.820 And also, children not only benefit from receiving love from their mom and their dad, but also witnessing the love of their parents that they have to each other.

02:07:34.760 It proves for more successful, more well-rounded children.

02:07:39.140 That doesn't mean that you can't come from a single-parent household and still be a thriving person and a contributing member to society and overcome those statistics, but I think he's just saying statistically, in general, that's what it shows.

02:07:56.640 It's harder.

02:07:57.860 It's harder.

02:07:58.260 It's more difficult.

02:07:58.840 Coming from personal experience, I grew up in a two-parent household, and yeah, my parents were together the whole entire time, and unfortunately, my mom passed away when I was 11.

02:08:07.220 Oh, shit.

02:08:08.020 I didn't know that.

02:08:09.440 I feel like I told you that.

02:08:10.580 Sorry to hear that.

02:08:11.180 And basically, it was just like my dad, I'm 18 now, so for seven, eight years, it's been just my dad, and I will say, coming from personal experience, I did feel a lot safer when I had two parents, and I felt more, I don't know, I guess comfortable financially, and yeah, just things like that, I would say.

02:08:34.200 Yeah, no, it's much more challenging.

02:08:38.760 My parents, oh, sorry, go ahead.

02:08:40.220 I was going to say, my parents got divorced when I was in the second grade.

02:08:43.180 My brother is four years younger than me.

02:08:44.500 He grew up with never having a dad in the house, and I didn't have a dad in the house from a very young age.

02:08:48.980 It's much more challenging.

02:08:50.300 I've done well.

02:08:51.280 I'm the exception.

02:08:52.140 I've thrived, but it's a very hard situation to be in for kids.

02:08:56.760 It's very, very bad.

02:08:57.780 It's a very bad situation.

02:08:58.880 We cannot tolerate hand-waving broken households in this society.

02:09:01.800 Our society is too down bad right now.

02:09:05.040 Things are going too poorly to hand-wave fucked-up households.

02:09:08.640 We need good families.

02:09:10.280 It's important to have a positive role model for people, like a male and female role model in their lives, and to see that interaction, because that's how you learn to love and interact with people when you're older.

02:09:25.220 All right, we have Mr. Meatball here pulling this one back up.

02:09:29.500 What's the longest relationship?

02:09:30.320 We've committed $100.

02:09:32.380 What's the longest relationship any of y'all have in your family backgrounds, and how do you view those relationships?

02:09:39.640 Longest relationship any of y'all have in your family backgrounds?

02:09:42.880 What does that first part mean?

02:09:43.900 Like, our relatives.

02:09:44.980 Like, my parents were high school sweethearts.

02:09:47.400 Like, I don't know.

02:09:48.040 And how do you view those relationships?

02:09:50.500 Is this really related to dating?

02:09:55.140 Like, we didn't date our family members.

02:09:56.100 Have any of you dated a family member?

02:09:58.360 Let's talk about incest.

02:09:59.240 I think it means, like, okay, like, for example, my answer would be, like, my parents are high school sweethearts.

02:10:04.700 They've been together for a very long time, but I look up to, I don't know, like that.

02:10:09.520 Yeah, like, did you view it as a positive relationship?

02:10:11.700 Yeah, I think it was a very positive thing, yes.

02:10:14.160 Oh, okay, so we'll go around the table.

02:10:16.920 And, Mr. Meeple, I'm trying to maybe redirect this a little bit.

02:10:22.020 What's your current, you know, are your parents married?

02:10:24.580 Are they separated?

02:10:25.540 Were they ever married?

02:10:28.120 And how do you, were you cool if they got divorced when you were young?

02:10:32.440 Did it upset you?

02:10:33.820 Go ahead.

02:10:35.640 Well, I would say my, like, the longest, like, successful relationship in my family that I saw would probably be my grandparents.

02:10:43.160 Well, no, let's just talk about your parents.

02:10:45.600 My parents, my mom has never been married, but she was with, I mean, I call him my stepdad.

02:10:52.560 They weren't legally married, but they had that type of relationship.

02:10:57.240 She was with him for 13 years.

02:10:59.780 My mom and my dad got divorced when I was three, and then my mom remarried when I was nine or ten, I think, to my stepdad.

02:11:16.560 Okay.

02:11:16.940 My parents got married when I was a few months old, and they're still together 24 years later.

02:11:25.660 Word.

02:11:26.340 My parents are also still together and have been married for quite a while.

02:11:30.000 So, my parents have been together since high school, and they actually didn't get married until I was about 10 or 11, and then they ended up divorcing when I was 14.

02:11:40.260 So, after they divorced, like, I never really saw my dad, ever.

02:11:44.540 Like, occasionally, maybe once every year and now and then, but it was, I lived with my mom, and it was mainly me and my mom.

02:11:50.680 So, was it his, sorry, do you mind if I ask, like, was it his choice to leave and kind of be absent?

02:11:57.080 Yeah, he didn't really try to be involved.

02:11:59.160 Okay.

02:12:00.280 I mean, the only involvement was really kind of us.

02:12:02.680 I didn't meet my real dad until I was 21, so, like, you know, it's never too late.

02:12:08.220 Maybe he'll come back.

02:12:09.480 Yeah.

02:12:11.200 Can hope.

02:12:11.960 Was that hard for you?

02:12:14.360 I mean, he was there for a while, but, like, he never really, like, got to know any of us.

02:12:20.680 Like, I love him.

02:12:21.580 He's my dad.

02:12:22.420 You know, he supported us.

02:12:23.440 He was there.

02:12:24.040 But, like, realistically, I never got close to him.

02:12:26.820 He lived with us, and I really didn't even know him.

02:12:29.220 I know nothing about his past, know nothing about his background.

02:12:32.600 I just know he's my dad.

02:12:34.240 But you said that they were together until you were 11.

02:12:37.500 They got married, and then at 14, he left.

02:12:39.740 So, I mean, didn't for 14 years from in your childhood, he was present?

02:12:45.900 For about, when I was little, it was, like, on and off.

02:12:50.740 Touch and go.

02:12:51.200 Not until I was about six was he, like, there every day.

02:12:54.980 Oh, okay.

02:12:55.220 Like, it wasn't like he was gone and then.

02:12:57.620 Okay.

02:12:57.900 He was, like, physically present, but you didn't, like, get to connect with him during that time.

02:13:03.020 From the time, like, six to, like, 14, yes.

02:13:06.340 What about you?

02:13:07.700 My parents divorced when I was 11 years old.

02:13:12.280 It was super difficult.

02:13:14.060 So, I actually have five siblings.

02:13:16.140 I have four sisters and one brother.

02:13:17.620 It was hard on all of us.

02:13:18.760 It's still hard today.

02:13:19.780 My dad remarried.

02:13:21.540 My mom has not remarried yet.

02:13:23.960 And it was definitely tough.

02:13:27.880 I didn't even know that they didn't have a good marriage until they divorced.

02:13:32.040 And the older I get, the more I realize, I mean, obviously, I think that my mom was an incredible mom.

02:13:38.720 And she stepped up in so many ways.

02:13:40.280 And I can't thank my mom enough for all the ways that she sacrificed for our family.

02:13:44.560 But I do see the wound of how it would have been better for my dad to be in the picture the whole time that we were growing up.

02:13:51.720 Madison, what about you?

02:13:53.060 I kind of said mine already.

02:13:54.620 Yeah.

02:13:55.760 I think this was directed at the women.

02:13:57.460 I mean, if you want to.

02:13:58.800 I would say, I would look at my grandparents.

02:14:01.240 My grandma and grandpa, they've been married 51 years.

02:14:03.320 And for me, that's, like, inspirational.

02:14:05.440 That's crazy.

02:14:06.240 That's half a century.

02:14:08.240 Yeah.

02:14:08.620 By the way, I just want to thank.

02:14:11.520 You guys have really been super supportive tonight and appreciate all your patronage via Streamlabs tonight.

02:14:18.520 That's a bit of a change.

02:14:19.620 Normally, a lot of people are doing it through YouTube.

02:14:21.300 But thank you guys for doing it through Streamlabs.

02:14:23.300 As just a reminder, if you super chat through YouTube, they take 30%.

02:14:26.980 But if you do it through Streamlabs, they just take 3%.

02:14:29.440 So YouTube certainly doesn't need the money.

02:14:33.160 You don't need to be putting 30% of your patronage that you intend to go towards us into the pockets of Woke, Megacorp, YouTube.

02:14:41.520 So I appreciate everybody who's been doing it through Streamlabs.

02:14:44.860 Streamlabs.com slash whatever if you want to get a TTS or a message in.

02:14:49.040 We do have a couple here from YouTube.

02:14:51.960 We have Alvin Sam.

02:14:52.700 Stay safe.

02:14:53.140 Your habit of blaming men descended into enabling bad behavior in women.

02:14:57.220 Hedonism is entirely on the woman because she has a choice of either that or modesty traditionalism,

02:15:02.680 especially when she has a fertility window.

02:15:05.020 Your logic is unbearable.

02:15:07.380 It's unbearable.

02:15:08.220 Listen, my point is, young men, blaming women and pointing their finger at women is not going to do anything for society.

02:15:17.940 It's not going to fix you.

02:15:19.700 All you have to do is be introspective and look at your own behavior and improve your behavior.

02:15:22.880 And I promise you, if you are a disciplined man, you will find a woman to follow.

02:15:28.280 I know you will.

02:15:29.880 I know you will.

02:15:30.880 But posting online complaining about the promiscuous behavior of women, however promiscuous they might be, and they are, is not going to solve the problem.

02:15:38.920 You've got to become better.

02:15:40.480 That's just the truth.

02:15:41.680 That's just the reality.

02:15:42.460 Just one quick thing, and I think this maybe plays into your point that you made earlier about men have a responsibility in this.

02:15:51.000 Men ought to be leaders because if men were leaders, then that would ostensibly fix all the issues in society.

02:16:00.560 However, isn't leadership a dance to some degree?

02:16:06.840 To be more specific, in order to be a leader, there have to be people willing to follow you.

02:16:11.800 Is that correct?

02:16:12.800 Yep.

02:16:12.900 Do you think that, and I think a lot of women want a guy who's, like, assertive and is a leader.

02:16:20.640 You know, you'll often see, like, memes on dating apps about, like, you know, a lot of girls say, like, oh, I want a guy to pick where we go to eat.

02:16:28.000 I want a guy who has, like, that sort of assertiveness, those leadership qualities of, like, being decisive.

02:16:33.100 Well, what do they say?

02:16:33.720 Read by example.

02:16:34.400 Well, women really like decisive men.

02:16:37.180 However, is there, I think there's a component of what a lot of women have been taught through feminism and stuff, is women want leaders.

02:16:45.820 Women are attracted to men who are assertive and dominant and leaders and masculine.

02:16:52.120 However, there's, like, this other thing going on where it's, like, they want leaders, but they don't want to follow.

02:16:59.700 Let me put it this way.

02:17:02.140 I don't think that any highly successful traditional man is having a trouble finding wife.

02:17:06.840 If, like, I'm going to just say this.

02:17:10.720 I can't blame women for not wanting to have a life of tradition, given how 90-plus percent of men are in our society.

02:17:17.500 There's not enough traditional men to go around.

02:17:19.040 And so, no doubt you've got a lot of women that are fed up with that whole tradition thing, because men suck.

02:17:23.280 Men are fat.

02:17:24.200 They're lazy.

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02:17:27.900 They're watching porn.

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02:17:30.280 Men are down bad.

02:17:31.060 How can you blame women for not wanting to sign on board with one of these guys?

02:17:35.480 Fix yourself.

02:17:36.980 Like, that's all it comes down to.

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02:17:47.000 Do it.

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02:17:48.420 No, I'm kidding.

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02:17:50.520 I'm going to have the mic out of your hand.

02:17:53.280 Listen, everybody do what they want to do, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else, okay?

02:17:59.360 Everybody's trying to be a better person.

02:18:02.020 Because I sure am.

02:18:03.580 Got to become a better person.

02:18:04.880 All you can do is control yourself.

02:18:06.180 Become a better person.

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02:18:25.260 Statistic, like, it would trip me out.

02:18:28.160 Wait.

02:18:28.320 I mean, statistics would trip you out?

02:18:30.480 What, like, what percentage of men that subscribe to me that are married?

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02:18:49.780 Yeah.

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02:18:53.280 Okay, let me get these other soup chats.

02:18:55.500 Here we have.

02:18:56.120 Send them.

02:18:56.500 You know what?

02:19:00.280 Let's see here.

02:19:01.880 Let me check something before I have it.

02:19:04.180 Okay, guys, we have, oh, my, guys, we have 3,500 people watching, but we only have 867 likes.

02:19:12.920 As punishment, oh, my God, as punishment, can I have you, Gia, right?

02:19:20.180 Yeah.

02:19:20.940 Oh, sorry, you're Gia.

02:19:21.900 Yeah.

02:19:22.060 Hold on, okay.

02:19:22.760 I'm sorry, I forgot your name.

02:19:24.060 My name is Grace.

02:19:25.140 Grace, sorry about that.

02:19:25.920 Grace, can I have you read this, please?

02:19:27.620 Yeah.

02:19:28.880 Okay.

02:19:29.760 The woman in white is 100% correct.

02:19:33.960 An increase in young men not having sex, equal sign, slash, equal sign.

02:19:40.320 Does not equal.

02:19:41.780 Oh, okay.

02:19:43.320 Sorry, I wasn't caught up on the lingo.

02:19:45.360 Does not equal women being more promiscuous.

02:19:48.920 If you look at the same plot, you actually see the percent of women not having sex doesn't change, but the men's increases dramatically in the last few years.

02:20:00.220 Okay, well, no name.

02:20:02.000 First off, thank you for the super chat.

02:20:05.160 I mean, your last sentence there does nothing to disprove my point.

02:20:08.940 Just because there's not an increase in that specific stat I showed you does nothing to refute my argument.

02:20:17.020 So, an increase in young men not having sex does not equal women being more promiscuous.

02:20:25.360 When I say more promiscuous, I'm not necessarily saying that there's an increase in female promiscuity, although it's plausible there is.

02:20:36.320 I would say there's been an increase in promiscuity in both genders since basically the proliferation of dating apps and social media, but I think it's made it a lot easier for those top-tier men to just have way more access to just casual sex because, I mean, and we know this by the data released from the dating apps, basically you have women who are only swiping on the top five, top 10% of men.

02:21:04.680 The top 10% of men, top 5% of men on dating apps have all the choice, all the choice, and so it's very, very, it's become much easier for them to enact on their capability to be promiscuous, and I think women will happily, like, oh, here's an opportunity to sleep with a guy who's out of my league.

02:21:26.940 Okay, I'll do it, but thank you for the super chat.

02:21:30.020 We've got a couple others, so we've got to keep it moving.

02:21:31.840 Ethan, hey, thank you for the 50, invisible sky friend opinions shouldn't be the deciding factor in how marriage and society works.

02:21:39.380 Men and women should respect each other more.

02:21:41.800 Women are picky, and guys will take what they can get relationship-wise.

02:21:45.120 There needs to be a compromise.

02:21:47.200 Hey, Ethan, thank you for the super chat.

02:21:49.600 Invisible sky friend opinions, okay.

02:21:51.360 Well, I think, I mean, my understanding, Matt, you, you're a pretty secular, if I, is that correct?

02:22:00.360 I'm actually deeply religious.

02:22:02.540 I am.

02:22:02.860 Oh, are you?

02:22:03.060 Seriously, I'm deeply religious.

02:22:04.080 I'm not a Christian.

02:22:04.620 I'm not a Christian, but I am.

02:22:06.600 Oh, okay.

02:22:07.720 But, I mean, you're...

02:22:08.360 What's your religion?

02:22:09.260 Yeah.

02:22:10.140 Well, I'm not going to tell you.

02:22:11.060 I'm not here to proselytize.

02:22:12.220 Okay, sure.

02:22:13.160 Are you a Buddhist?

02:22:13.760 Can you tell me off the record just because I'm curious?

02:22:17.620 I'm part of a secret esoteric cult.

02:22:19.980 Oh, my God.

02:22:20.600 He's a Scientologist.

02:22:21.700 I am so interested now.

02:22:23.700 Wait, are you, come on, are you actually religious?

02:22:26.020 I am.

02:22:26.420 I got some funky beliefs, too, so you can tell me.

02:22:28.440 I'm not a Christian, no.

02:22:29.820 Okay, well...

02:22:30.520 I don't think you have to be Christian to, like, adhere to these ideologies and understand them.

02:22:34.760 No, I don't think you do.

02:22:35.780 Just based on their statistics.

02:22:37.840 And I think most of the arguments, Matt, that you make when it comes to marriage are not rooted in...

02:22:42.620 You don't make religious arguments.

02:22:44.080 No, in fact, this is one of my biggest criticisms of the religious right, like, the based trad right,

02:22:49.680 is that unless the people you're preaching to are already part of the choir, they're not going to listen to you, I think.

02:22:55.460 And you haven't really been preaching at all from a religious point.

02:22:57.720 No, I brought up the fact that I was Christian once.

02:22:59.700 Yeah, once, so I'm not even talking to you.

02:23:01.080 But I see this a lot online where it's like, listen, you shouldn't behave this way because the Bible says so,

02:23:06.040 or the Talmud says so, or the Koran says so.

02:23:07.960 So it's like, well, if I don't give a shit about the Koran or the Bible or the Talmud, why do I care what your point is?

02:23:12.880 I think you've got to be able to push these ideas or push the trad philosophy, if that's what you want, from a rhetorically effective way.

02:23:20.880 Giga-Chad.

02:23:27.180 Giga-Chad.

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02:23:33.400 You are Giga-Chad.

02:23:35.020 Giga-Chad.

02:23:36.280 It's all 76.

02:23:37.160 I'm either Giga-Chad or a super simp.

02:23:39.320 It depends on who you ask.

02:23:40.240 Should we pull up your Instagram right now?

02:23:41.640 No, I don't want to.

02:23:42.860 No, I don't want to.

02:23:43.740 Okay.

02:23:45.400 So, he's just protecting his religion.

02:23:47.440 I think that's fine.

02:23:49.540 I mean, we've talked about enough statistics here that we understand the data proves that monogamous relationships, better society, lead to more happy and fulfilled partners, lead to the success of children.

02:24:00.700 But I also do think we have to ask ourselves, like, where does our value come from?

02:24:05.980 Where does our, like, innate human dignity come from?

02:24:09.560 And what is our reason for being here?

02:24:11.920 What is our purpose?

02:24:13.580 Why were we created for love?

02:24:14.800 Well, let's save that for the philosophical podcast.

02:24:17.300 Joel Bell, hey, thank you for the 50, negative.

02:24:19.360 Only the top 40% of men are promiscuous.

02:24:21.540 My math shows that that's the minority, not majority.

02:24:24.740 The key word is most men are not promiscuous, whereas most women are.

02:24:28.480 Understand what people say before calling debunked.

02:24:31.640 You'll look smarter.

02:24:33.900 Hey, Joel Bell, thank you for the super chat there.

02:24:37.300 Much appreciated.

02:24:38.200 We definitely went around on the promiscuity thing enough as it is, but I do want to bring it back to a couple points here, and we got away from this rather quick.

02:24:49.580 I will touch really quick on the non-monogamy.

02:24:51.800 You brought that up.

02:24:53.400 So do you think in your next relationships you will explore non-monogamy?

02:24:57.560 I'm not sure yet, but if I do want to explore non-monogamy, I don't think it'd be fair for people to look down on me for it.

02:25:05.640 Okay.

02:25:06.380 And so, and when you say non-monogamy, would you, would it be like a polycule where it's like you're all like a three-way relationship?

02:25:16.580 Like you have two boyfriends?

02:25:18.440 I'm not sure what kind of non-monogamous relationship I'd be interested in pursuing.

02:25:23.180 I definitely have a lot of research to do about that because I know there's so many different kinds of non-monogamous relationships, but yeah, currently I'm not sure yet.

02:25:33.200 Okay.

02:25:33.740 To be clear, I'm not looking down on you or anyone because of their relationship status or what they're doing with their lives.

02:25:40.200 I just know that based off the statistics, this is what the studies have shown.

02:25:46.840 And also I believe that every person has dignity and deserves to be loved, cherished, respected, and has, and have their dignity upheld.

02:25:54.420 And then Rhea, just really quick, so when it comes to the non-monogamy thing, you, in your pre-show messages to us, said that you consider yourself a feminist slash leftist.

02:26:09.180 Do your views on that sort of stuff have any, have they motivated you when it comes to your views on non-monogamy?

02:26:16.980 Maybe, I mean, I want to talk about the history of monogamy.

02:26:21.420 I mean, do we know where monogamy came from and why it's now the default to our society?

02:26:27.400 Well, I think, okay, well.

02:26:28.760 I think it's default for a reason.

02:26:30.740 I, I think there's.

02:26:32.140 But do we know how it became to be the default?

02:26:34.780 It's, it's, it's, it's based on procreation, I would imagine.

02:26:38.720 Because, like, human.

02:26:40.000 Like, for, for human civilization to advance, they, like.

02:26:45.380 Into the mic, please.

02:26:46.980 I would imagine it's based on procreation and what makes human civilization advance, um, the best.

02:26:56.120 You wanted to come in, go ahead.

02:26:57.820 Yeah, I do know that humans, as a species, we have very altrucial young, so that means they require a lot of care, especially in their early stages.

02:27:05.820 And I think that's where the idea, or, I guess, cultural means of monogamy has kind of surfaced from, is that need for not only just another partner, but a village to really help raise a child to survive into adulthood.

02:27:21.540 Um, also, I think a lot of people, like, want to be just together.

02:27:26.200 It's, like, the feeling of love and, like, finding a special person that you can build a life with.

02:27:32.320 Yeah.

02:27:33.360 Yeah.

02:27:34.200 Well, I mean, I, I think I mentioned this earlier, but, uh, I think men have a vest, a pretty vested interest in monogamy insofar as the paternity certainty component.

02:27:46.180 So, back in the day, if a woman had multiple sexual partners, that's kind of why, that's another reason, in addition to just monogamy, why virginity was so valued.

02:27:56.520 If a woman was promiscuous or had multiple sexual partners, there was no way in the past, uh, you know, pretty much up until 40 years ago, for people to determine who is the father of a child.

02:28:10.400 And, uh, for, and sometimes I think, perhaps women don't realize how important that is, because as a woman, if you have a kid, you know for certain that that's your child.

02:28:21.300 However, as a, as a man, you know, absent the paternity test, or you know that she's a virgin and she's only been with you, there's a component of paternity uncertainty, which is pretty much, if you're, as a guy, if you're raising a child that you think is yours but is not, that's pretty much the biggest L that you can take.

02:28:39.160 I also think it's a way that, in society, people, like, use to control and oppress women as well as that.

02:28:46.840 How, how, how, wait, what?

02:28:48.840 Like, valuing virginity so much.

02:28:53.260 How, how does that oppress women?

02:28:54.740 Well, because sometimes they'll be told that they're worthless if they have that, or they'll be, they'll be controlled and only have certain things that they can do because, on the basis that they need to maintain their virginity.

02:29:09.360 Well, I mean, okay, so there's a religious component that I suppose started about 2,000 years ago.

02:29:16.260 I think, I think chastity was valued up until very recently for both men and women, for religious reasons, chiefly.

02:29:25.380 Although that's kind of been eroded away by modern modernity, I guess you could say, but.

02:29:32.960 I mean, I think if you want to look at, like, male-female sexual relations for 99.999% of human history, you need to get out of the mindset of, like, our modern dynamic.

02:29:42.700 Right now, we've got birth control, we've got abortions, we've got so many things that you can use to sort of interfere with that natural system.

02:29:48.420 But that's not how it was for most of human history.

02:29:51.860 Like, as a man, if you are going to be raising a child, you want to make sure with 100% certainty it is your child.

02:29:59.280 You don't want a woman that is sleeping with multiple men because then you don't know what's going on, right?

02:30:03.220 And so this is one of the reasons why virginity is so valuable back in the day.

02:30:06.120 I completely understand that, and I think that that's true.

02:30:08.060 I'm just saying, I feel like that can be used, like, on the guise of that to, like, control women as well, like, more so.

02:30:18.420 I think that, like, Brian pointed out, I think that...

02:30:20.740 Like, it leads to, like, a woman being abused or not having say over themselves because that is, like, the main thing that men are concerned about is her virginity.

02:30:29.940 And that can go above her, like, condition and her right.

02:30:33.300 Well, Matt brought up...

02:30:34.740 Throughout history.

02:30:36.180 Matt brought up a really good point about birth control.

02:30:40.600 And so, you know, ignoring the paternity uncertainty thing, this was something that would fall more so upon women.

02:30:48.420 Like, you know, if you engaged in sex with somebody prior to there being birth control, like, pretty good chance you might get pregnant and can't get...

02:30:56.920 Like, I mean, abortions are fairly...

02:30:59.740 Well, I mean, there's history.

02:31:00.660 In any case, without birth control and without abortion, you know, there wasn't, what, 300 years ago, if you have sex with somebody, like, not really a way out if you get pregnant.

02:31:13.260 Or there's not really a way to prevent a pregnancy.

02:31:15.880 So I don't think it's about control.

02:31:18.520 It's just the biological reality that if you get pregnant, like, that's kind of a big deal.

02:31:24.480 So, and especially without modern healthcare, too.

02:31:28.300 Like, the healthcare, if you got pregnant as a woman, like, bro, there's a chance you fucking die.

02:31:32.240 I think that you can imagine in a world...

02:31:33.880 Like, let me ask you this.

02:31:34.660 In a world where there's no birth control and you've got a very high risk of getting pregnant if you have sex with a man, are you going to be as promiscuous in that world as you are in this world?

02:31:42.560 Probably not.

02:31:43.460 Because there's a very high chance that man you just had sort of casual, promiscuous, flippant sex with, you might get pregnant.

02:31:49.460 You might be tied down for life with that man.

02:31:50.780 And you've got to carry his child into the world and deal with that man for the rest of your life.

02:31:53.860 And so it's from a female's point of view also, 100 years ago, 200, 300, 1,000 years ago, as a woman, you probably don't want to be promiscuous either.

02:32:02.660 It's not a man keeping it down.

02:32:03.820 It's you don't want to be promiscuous because if you have sex with that man, you might be tied down forever with that guy.

02:32:09.860 You bring his child into this world.

02:32:11.540 Your body gets pregnant.

02:32:12.620 You go through crazy changes, right?

02:32:14.660 It's in the woman's interest, back then at least, a different conversation now that we have birth control, I guess.

02:32:19.400 But for most human history, it's in the woman's interest to not be promiscuous either.

02:32:23.760 It's in the man's and the woman's.

02:32:25.740 Well, actually, it wasn't, according to research, it really wasn't until the 18th century during the movement of romanticism that people started really getting into monogamy.

02:32:37.280 Like, when the romanticism movement started, that's when people started really giving in to the idea of having their one true love and their one true soulmate.

02:32:44.780 But prior to the 18th century and the 17th century, people were just fucking like crazy.

02:32:49.980 I don't think that's true at all.

02:32:50.780 Monogamy, people weren't super into monogamy like we are now today.

02:32:54.740 It's different because it was what you're talking about is people talking about finding their true love or their soulmate.

02:33:02.620 Whereas before, it wasn't so much based on initial feelings or romanticizing a relationship and more about just that dying commitment that this is my spouse.

02:33:14.420 And I'm going to learn to love them and commit to love them for the rest of my life.

02:33:18.340 And there was like a lot less, I don't know, fairytale glitter, rosy colored glasses around the idea of love and sacrifice.

02:33:27.140 I feel like like arranged marriages and stuff.

02:33:30.360 Yeah, exactly.

02:33:31.260 I feel like prior to the romanticism movement, people more so got married for logistics.

02:33:38.380 Because I feel like there was research that I saw that.

02:33:43.480 What's the purpose of marriage?

02:33:45.840 What do you say?

02:33:48.320 I feel like just financial reasons.

02:33:51.700 To raise kids?

02:33:52.180 I feel like, yeah, to raise kids.

02:33:53.860 It's easier to raise kids when you're married, I feel like.

02:33:57.460 So, I mean, you mentioned logistic reasons.

02:34:00.340 Logistics, yeah.

02:34:00.860 I mean, yeah, to raise kids.

02:34:02.360 Yeah, but with the history of monogamy, prior to 1 AD, when before Christianity started becoming, you know, more of a thing, monogamy really wasn't that common.

02:34:15.120 Where?

02:34:15.800 According to history.

02:34:17.180 Like around the world.

02:34:18.260 I feel like monogamy, based on the research that I've personally seen, and you guys can, you know, of course, fact check it.

02:34:24.220 But based on the research that I've seen, like monogamy wasn't really, you know, this thing that was going around the world until the 1850s when Western imperialism became a thing.

02:34:37.500 And white people just started going around the world saying, oh, monogamy is the way to go because I don't understand non-monogamy.

02:34:42.760 This is just not true at all, though.

02:34:43.920 If you look at pre-biblical India, they're pro-monogamy.

02:34:46.920 If you read the Quran or the Bhagavad Gita, they're talking about monogamy.

02:34:49.900 They're talking about the beauty and sanctity of a male-female relationship.

02:34:52.300 If you look at...

02:34:53.620 Actually, the Quran describes it beautifully, and commentary on the Quran, it describes marriage as two souls becoming one essence, which is really beautiful.

02:35:03.440 I feel like the spread of disease is also a big driver for monogamy.

02:35:09.440 Yeah, I mean, that's a really good point you bring up there.

02:35:13.780 If you're monogamous...

02:35:15.980 But people who are non-monogamous and, you know, practice non-monogamy...

02:35:20.440 It should be.

02:35:20.940 When they, you know, have sex with other people, they know to use protection, whereas these people...

02:35:27.560 I know of a lot of people who are in monogamous relationships who still end up getting STDs because when their partners cheat on them, they're not using protection.

02:35:37.940 Yeah, but you can also get cheated on in a non-monogamous relationship, too.

02:35:43.040 Absolutely.

02:35:43.360 That would take a lot of trust.

02:35:45.840 And then also, I mean, certainly the odds of getting an STD is, I would say it's greater in non-monogamous relationships than monogamous relationships.

02:35:58.800 It is.

02:35:59.020 But you mentioned protection.

02:36:01.080 I mean, protection is not foolproof deterrent to getting an STD.

02:36:07.300 No, but it's a preventative measure.

02:36:09.720 It is a preventative measure, but, like, take, for example, herpes.

02:36:13.340 You can, even if you're wearing a condom, like, you can still get herpes.

02:36:18.960 Like, because you could have an outbreak, like, on the base of the fucking...

02:36:22.500 Am I going to describe that?

02:36:24.080 You can always break, too, you know.

02:36:25.800 But, I mean, let's also be honest, too.

02:36:27.960 Like, people really be out here fucking without condoms.

02:36:30.940 Like, let's be honest, Con.

02:36:32.520 Yeah, but I don't...

02:36:33.380 Come on, look at the smile on their face.

02:36:35.140 They be fucking...

02:36:35.540 I mean, it feels better.

02:36:36.980 She be fucking without a condom.

02:36:38.380 Come on, bro.

02:36:39.200 I feel like the problem isn't about monogamy or non-monogamy because I think everyone assumes a certain risk when they do engage in sexual activity.

02:36:47.200 I think it's the problem with having a conversation and being open with your partners or partner about those different things.

02:36:54.200 Yeah, well, I think also when it comes to raising a family, I don't know if that's an ideal family dynamic to have, like...

02:37:06.980 Oh, wait.

02:37:07.360 Huh?

02:37:07.860 Like, do you want to elaborate?

02:37:09.440 Well, like, if there's one mom and, like, three fathers, that might be a little...

02:37:15.820 There's going to be, like, infighting, and then, like, if there's offspring, or maybe I shouldn't say offspring, if there's children.

02:37:22.940 I think there's also more to a marriage than just raising children and having children, although one of the fruits of marriage is child-bearing and having children.

02:37:32.420 I mean, isn't that the primary reason of marriage?

02:37:35.580 It's twofold.

02:37:36.340 Besides solidifying a relationship.

02:37:38.280 Like, you can be married and not have children.

02:37:39.900 Do you learn from each other, like, growing with someone?

02:37:42.960 It's the love and commitment, actually.

02:37:44.660 Like, if you look at the purpose of marriage, it's to love your spouse unconditionally, although that's, I mean, that people think nowadays that you can get married and that it's not forever.

02:37:56.640 Although, I mean, in the design of marriage and in the design of humanity, who you commit your life to in marriage should be forever.

02:38:02.920 And with the goal that you'll be married until death do you part.

02:38:07.560 So, the purpose of marriage is to love one another, sacrificially and wholly.

02:38:13.020 And then, as a result of that love, children are the fruit of it.

02:38:17.640 We have two super chats here we have to react to.

02:38:20.140 We have Ryan, the eating warrior.

02:38:21.540 Hey, man.

02:38:21.920 Good to see you in the chat again.

02:38:23.600 Thank you for the $50 super chat, man.

02:38:25.000 Really appreciate it.

02:38:25.620 Monogamy was enacted to stabilize societies and to help prevent the spread of diseases.

02:38:30.820 Quick Google search.

02:38:32.160 Hey, Ryan, the eating warrior.

02:38:34.100 Good to see you back in the chat, man.

02:38:35.480 TJ King, good to see you back in the chat as well.

02:38:37.640 Ladies, if social media disappeared, namely Instagram, overnight, do you think it would be a good or bad thing for the dating marketplace?

02:38:44.380 That's a fun thing.

02:38:44.700 Good.

02:38:45.560 We'll start with you.

02:38:46.800 Go ahead.

02:38:47.820 I feel like it would be a good thing.

02:38:49.640 One reason I think it would be a good thing is because I remember that you were saying the more someone scrolls on Instagram and the more they look at it, it had some sort of negative effect on how they view other people in their dating life.

02:39:05.740 And when people are dating, the more people they see, they tend to compare them.

02:39:14.880 And if you're just like always going through that comparison, I feel like people are never happy.

02:39:20.060 Even if you're not intending on like looking outside your relationship, I feel like that's where it can start a lot.

02:39:28.080 A lot of stuff happens in the DMs, so I think dating would be better.

02:39:32.720 People can get to know each other.

02:39:34.120 People can get to know each other more one-on-one.

02:39:36.940 Like for me specifically, because I do have such like a prominent internet presence, I feel like it's almost, it's difficult for me to get to know people who see me off of there because I feel like it's almost, it's different.

02:39:51.040 So I personally have a hard time with people's perception of me just based on my Instagram and then me in real life.

02:40:02.200 That's interesting.

02:40:02.740 But I mean, I guess it comes with the territory.

02:40:07.980 Can you come back to me on that one?

02:40:11.360 It would definitely be a good thing if social media disappeared.

02:40:15.280 We would live more presently and more purposefully, I believe.

02:40:18.860 I also don't really know where I stand on that.

02:40:24.200 I think personally I prefer to not use social media as much.

02:40:28.200 As for dating, I think social media has its pros and cons.

02:40:32.800 I think it's just changing how people date, but I don't know if I'm in the place to stay if it would be a good thing.

02:40:39.360 Cloud Forest Show donated $99.

02:40:43.780 All humans have reproductive cells.

02:40:46.960 Women have eggs cells.

02:40:48.640 Men have sperm cells.

02:40:50.380 All humans have processes of getting rid of old reproductive cells.

02:40:54.300 Does that mean you only get to do it once a month?

02:41:05.360 Is that what that...

02:41:08.040 For one week, once a month, you jerk off as much as you want.

02:41:11.280 Outside of that, no.

02:41:12.400 I feel like that would ruin your, like, sense of sexual gratification.

02:41:18.800 Isn't that, like, a fact?

02:41:20.700 Like, the more you...

02:41:21.840 If you're beaten off five times a day for seven days straight, yeah, it's probably not good for you.

02:41:25.320 Yeah.

02:41:25.800 That's probably not good for you.

02:41:27.000 You'd probably get, like, some sort of, you know, burn on the skin.

02:41:31.000 Salt said, what happened to Andrea?

02:41:34.780 Who's Andrea?

02:41:35.540 The TTS came in, but it didn't read, so I just read it out loud.

02:41:38.660 I don't know who Andrea is, but...

02:41:40.320 Who's Andrea?

02:41:40.800 Yeah.

02:41:42.760 Nick, do you want to pull up the super chat again?

02:41:45.720 Yeah.

02:41:49.400 And then we'll keep going on that.

02:41:53.760 Yeah.

02:41:54.280 That was your answer, Nick.

02:41:56.180 Honestly, I think social media just kind of ruins everything.

02:41:58.620 It just kind of gives you more accessibility to other people and, like, more temptation to other things.

02:42:04.880 Like, I mean, you could be in a community relationship post photos with your significant other,

02:42:09.540 or have them in your bio, and people are still going to DM you, trying to be, like, hey, like, can I shoot my shot at you?

02:42:14.960 Like, it's, like, they don't understand, like, boundaries of that.

02:42:17.700 So, yeah, I think definitely social media is very impactful.

02:42:22.220 Yeah, I think it would be a good thing.

02:42:26.200 I think that a lot of good points were made around it.

02:42:30.640 Yes, we would live more presently.

02:42:32.080 We would be able to experience our partner more presently.

02:42:34.960 And I think that we've, like, lost the beauty of meeting people organically and talking to people face-to-face.

02:42:42.280 And, of course, I already shared the statistic, but for the sake of conversation, there was a study that was done that men who follow a lot of girls on Instagram

02:42:50.400 and are spending a lot of time on social media feel less attracted to their partner.

02:42:54.100 So, if we're looking at that statistic, and I'm sure it's the same for women who are scrolling and they're seeing everybody's perfect, air quotes,

02:43:02.420 perfect relationship and comparing their relationship to that or they think everyone's happy,

02:43:07.460 that has a negative effect on their view of their own relationship.

02:43:11.320 So, yes, I think social media going away would have a net positive on relationships.

02:43:17.060 Yeah, basically, you said it perfectly.

02:43:20.400 I think the absence of social media in a relationship would create, like, very much more intimate, cherishable relationships.

02:43:29.420 We need to get rid of the internet, not just social media, the entire internet.

02:43:32.920 We need to go back to pre-listen, the Industrial Revolution.

02:43:35.960 We need to go back before, no, pre-agricultural revolution.

02:43:39.700 We need to be nomadic tribes wandering to plans, hunting buffalo and bison and squirrels, unironically.

02:43:47.460 I'm not even kidding.

02:43:48.480 That's what we need to do.

02:43:49.540 I agree.

02:43:50.000 We need to go back.

02:43:52.360 We're going back.

02:43:53.540 We are so back.

02:43:55.140 We need to rewind it.

02:43:57.100 How are you going to sell power gum, though, before the internet?

02:44:00.840 I'm going to become like a brick maker or something.

02:44:03.400 I'll be a mason or something.

02:44:04.440 I don't know what I'll be.

02:44:05.320 I don't know.

02:44:05.920 I'll be a wood sculptor.

02:44:07.400 There was gum before the internet.

02:44:09.080 You could just put it.

02:44:11.180 We're going to get you a Walmart deal.

02:44:13.660 Listen, listen.

02:44:14.380 Listen, if taking society back, I don't know, a couple hundred years means I never play World

02:44:18.440 of Warcraft ever again, do it.

02:44:20.340 There is that.

02:44:21.180 Do it.

02:44:21.740 No more World of Warcraft.

02:44:22.380 Dang, you're really that committed.

02:44:23.340 I'll make the deal.

02:44:24.320 And then this one came up while I was gone.

02:44:25.920 Salc76, hey, thank you, man, for the donation.

02:44:28.840 What happened to Andrea?

02:44:29.540 Andrea, I mean, Andrea, we used to do videos nine, eight, seven years ago.

02:44:37.860 She's doing her own thing.

02:44:40.700 There's really not much to say.

02:44:42.060 Just we stopped working together and, yeah, not really stored there.

02:44:46.760 Haven't.

02:44:47.640 Actually, I think I invited her to come be a guest on the podcast, but she didn't respond.

02:44:51.600 I think she's kind of out of the content creation social media space.

02:44:55.940 Thank you, though, man.

02:44:56.680 Okay, so I do want to come back to our esteemed guest, Ria.

02:45:03.560 Ria, so you're a feminist.

02:45:07.020 Do you have armpit hair?

02:45:10.740 A little bit right now.

02:45:11.900 Are you rocking the armpit hair?

02:45:13.100 Do you want to show?

02:45:13.560 What kind of question is that?

02:45:14.920 Do you want to show the armpit hair or what's up?

02:45:17.560 I'm okay on that.

02:45:19.140 Oh, you're okay.

02:45:19.720 I feel like I just shave it whenever I feel like it.

02:45:22.540 Okay.

02:45:22.860 Yeah.

02:45:23.620 Do you own the armpit hair?

02:45:24.860 Like, is it like, you know, it's like, you know, okay.

02:45:27.140 Yeah, it's pretty cool.

02:45:28.020 Okay.

02:45:28.260 You definitely don't.

02:45:29.820 Yeah, I was just checking.

02:45:31.120 I was like, okay, I'm good.

02:45:33.360 Wait, did Madison do the check?

02:45:35.940 Armpit check?

02:45:36.860 I literally, like, don't grow armpit hair.

02:45:38.880 Haram.

02:45:39.340 Actually.

02:45:40.140 Haram!

02:45:40.720 Okay, cool.

02:45:42.460 Let's see.

02:45:43.680 And then I had, these are just notes that you guys provided for me before the show.

02:45:47.800 We have, let's see, Lexi, are you religious at all?

02:45:58.200 I'm spiritual, but not religious.

02:46:00.760 Gotcha.

02:46:01.860 We have Gia.

02:46:04.180 You said you're very conservative, but I used to be a little more wild before becoming a conservative Christian.

02:46:10.240 Yeah, I was.

02:46:10.920 A lot of people say, oh, okay, that's some other stuff.

02:46:12.960 Um, what do you, when you say you used to be a little more wild, uh, what, what do you mean?

02:46:18.660 Yeah, I mean, I was never somebody that slept around or anything like that.

02:46:23.740 Um, my mom was really strict and I, in retrospect, I thank her for that because I think that kept me out of a lot of trouble.

02:46:30.740 But I definitely used to go out a lot more than I do now.

02:46:33.620 Um, I mean, I dated a lot of different people and I feel like I experienced what it was like to date people who didn't really respect me, didn't value me as an individual, didn't see my worth as a woman, um, for who I am, not just, you know, for the fact that I'm a woman.

02:46:50.360 Um, and so, yeah, so I have, like, that experience and, I mean, definitely had some fun moments.

02:46:57.540 But I would say, overall, the life that I'm living now, seeking out relationships that are leading to marriage, which I have been since I was, like, 20, um, I would say has been more fulfilling and has made me, overall, a happier person.

02:47:12.040 Got it.

02:47:12.800 Okay.

02:47:13.700 So, there was a wild past.

02:47:16.900 A little wild.

02:47:17.620 A little wild past.

02:47:18.480 Not too wild.

02:47:19.720 Okay.

02:47:20.060 Which I own, by the way, because I think that it, it doesn't benefit anybody to sit here and to, you know, act perfect or to try to claim that I'm perfect.

02:47:30.860 I think everybody makes mistakes and we are all imperfect people.

02:47:34.660 And so, um, but I can say in terms of my view of myself, how fulfilled I am in my life, the career that I've been able to, um, to find and to create and, um, the purpose that I have found and overall just, again, happiness and fulfillment out of life is, I mean, a thousand times more than anything I could have imagined before.

02:47:56.400 We have a super chat here from Ryan, the eating warrior, I believe, directed to you.

02:48:02.200 Stop the cap, miss marriage.

02:48:04.980 It's no cap.

02:48:06.200 I mean, honestly, actually, before I met the person that I'm in a relationship with now, I was single for, um, I mean, almost four years.

02:48:14.880 So, I dated a lot of, I mean, Christian men who were marriage-minded.

02:48:20.480 Um, but honestly, I was in the idea that I don't want to just marry someone just to get married, just to get married, which I think even secular women think about.

02:48:30.020 They think about the ring and they think about the dress and they don't think about what comes along with being married.

02:48:36.500 I wanted to make sure that I found the right person who I could see not only being a good husband, but being a good father and being a good partner.

02:48:44.460 Somebody that was going to push me to be everything that I was created to be.

02:48:48.320 Um, and so I wasn't, like, in a rush to get married at all.

02:48:51.500 And, um, I found the right person and we're dating, but it looks like it's leading towards marriage, so.

02:48:57.300 Wait, so you said you were, you were single for four years.

02:49:00.620 Yeah.

02:49:01.380 And, okay, you're 26, you've been in, you're in a two-year relationship currently?

02:49:06.180 No, seven months.

02:49:07.100 That was your longest relationship, excuse me.

02:49:09.360 Like two and a half years, yeah.

02:49:10.280 So, when you said that, like, four-year single period, are you, like, you were celibate?

02:49:14.780 Celibate, single, yep.

02:49:16.800 For four years?

02:49:17.660 For four years, yeah.

02:49:19.200 Damn, son.

02:49:20.120 Okay.

02:49:20.860 Uh, good times.

02:49:21.560 I was so happy.

02:49:22.620 I am so happy, yeah.

02:49:24.260 Wait, did, people in the chat were saying born-again virgin, is that?

02:49:29.740 That sounds like something from, like, ultra-trad purity culture.

02:49:33.260 I don't know what that means.

02:49:34.840 I'm, I don't know.

02:49:37.160 Sounds like something weird from the internet.

02:49:38.760 But, are you waiting until marriage, or?

02:49:42.720 I don't want to answer that question.

02:49:44.220 I think we all should wait until marriage, yeah.

02:49:47.400 Oh, okay.

02:49:48.360 Wait.

02:49:49.240 So, I mean, didn't you just answer the question?

02:49:51.040 Yeah, I guess.

02:49:51.740 I did, yeah.

02:49:52.520 I think, but I don't want to shame anybody that, that hasn't.

02:49:55.660 Oh, well, I don't think there's anything wrong with your position.

02:49:57.400 I think we should wait until marriage.

02:49:58.960 Did you wait until marriage?

02:50:00.540 I made mistakes in the past.

02:50:02.780 Oh, okay.

02:50:03.180 So, you, you, you previously, you'd, you'd had some indiscretions.

02:50:09.940 I prefer not to go into detail.

02:50:12.560 Okay, fair enough.

02:50:13.660 But now, but now, at this point, you are waiting until marriage.

02:50:17.200 I think we should wait until marriage, yeah.

02:50:19.000 Okay, gotcha.

02:50:20.020 And then we have TJ King here.

02:50:21.640 To those who said yes, would you delete your Instagram?

02:50:24.720 Who said yes, by the way?

02:50:28.860 I was up there for a bit of a show.

02:50:29.860 I think everyone said yes.

02:50:30.680 I would delete mine.

02:50:31.680 Everybody said yes.

02:50:32.840 Would you delete your Instagram?

02:50:33.820 I would delete mine.

02:50:35.020 If social media didn't exist, then I wouldn't even have an Instagram at all.

02:50:39.240 I would.

02:50:39.940 I'd delete mine.

02:50:40.880 I'd delete mine every week.

02:50:42.260 Wait, what?

02:50:42.980 Hold on.

02:50:43.300 Repeat your statement, what?

02:50:45.240 Like, the question we said yes to is, do you think dating would be better if social media

02:50:52.360 didn't exist?

02:50:53.200 So, if it didn't exist, we wouldn't have an Instagram at all?

02:50:58.300 But, no, he's not asking if...

02:51:00.000 Would I just delete my Instagram, like, willy-nilly today?

02:51:03.120 Yeah, like, would you just delete it?

02:51:04.600 Oh, no.

02:51:05.540 Oh, okay.

02:51:06.700 So, most of...

02:51:07.720 I think you're saying, like, for a man, though.

02:51:09.540 Like, if your significant other wanted you to delete your social media, would you?

02:51:16.520 Okay, we have Mr. Cappadocia here.

02:51:18.240 Hey, good to see you in the chat, man.

02:51:19.560 Thank you.

02:51:20.900 Boys as young as 12 who have been modestoed by women who got pregnant as a result?

02:51:28.340 Oh, okay.

02:51:29.280 Have been required to pay those women child support.

02:51:31.140 They know how unfair society is to the fellas, and not a single woman on this panel cares.

02:51:36.300 They prefer it.

02:51:38.060 Well, this is out of left field.

02:51:39.300 Well, okay, well, there is certainly, like, there have been court cases where a woman who was older was with a boy.

02:51:47.820 I'm going to just say that I don't prefer a situation like that.

02:51:51.540 Wait, what?

02:51:51.860 I don't know what he's trying to say, but...

02:51:54.440 He's saying, well, basically what he's...

02:51:56.120 I'm just saying, don't say I prefer that.

02:51:57.820 I don't prefer that.

02:51:58.580 Did he, I'm not sure if he...

02:52:02.580 Okay, well, in any case, there have been court cases where they will rule that the boy who was, let's say, statutory, he's on the hook for child support.

02:52:16.160 Or if the woman who took advantage of him got pregnant, which is, like, it's kind of messed up, you know?

02:52:25.120 And this is a case where the boy is underage.

02:52:27.180 Yeah, there's been a couple, there's definitely been a lot of cases like this where a young boy was, you know...

02:52:33.520 Yeah, I mean, I'll say this, this is something that I'm going to come off as a super simp here.

02:52:37.760 I think that when a female adult does that to a young boy, 12, 13, 14, 15, I think it should societally be just as admonished and punished equally as heavy as when it's inverse, where it's an adult man preying on a young girl.

02:52:52.360 Absolutely.

02:52:52.880 I think the standard has to be the same.

02:52:54.840 And it's not, and it's fucked up, but it should be.

02:52:57.920 100% agree.

02:52:58.760 100% agree.

02:52:59.960 Okay, we have the real Mr. Meatball here.

02:53:03.860 Oh, whoops, did I...

02:53:04.760 Sorry, I think I triggered the wrong one.

02:53:05.980 Oh, Salk says, why do you think sex is fine after marriage?

02:53:10.620 I think he has to be trolling.

02:53:12.500 Why do you think sex is fine after marriage?

02:53:14.680 I think it's more a religious thing.

02:53:17.860 Even if you get married, I just never have...

02:53:21.760 Saving myself for divorce.

02:53:22.880 Holy fudgy.

02:53:23.420 What was that?

02:53:23.820 Oh my god, is that a bird?

02:53:24.500 That was a really big bug.

02:53:25.920 Was that a bug or a mosquito?

02:53:27.220 Yeah, that was...

02:53:27.500 A mosquito?

02:53:27.800 Yeah.

02:53:28.260 No, there's no way that was a mosquito.

02:53:29.800 That was that big.

02:53:31.120 No, look at it.

02:53:31.920 Oh, it's big.

02:53:32.680 It's on the outside.

02:53:33.720 Do you guys see it?

02:53:34.540 Yes.

02:53:34.720 Is that a cicada?

02:53:38.940 Is that a cicada?

02:53:40.200 Like...

02:53:40.680 Are there cicadas, Eric?

02:53:42.760 It's Mothman.

02:53:45.500 Yo, check...

02:53:46.500 I literally see it.

02:53:47.960 Nick, can you turn off the hallway lights?

02:53:49.520 I thought it was a bird.

02:53:50.580 Hallway lights.

02:53:51.820 Hallway lights.

02:53:53.100 I still couldn't fly.

02:53:55.080 Holy shit.

02:53:56.820 That was like a...

02:53:58.360 What are those giant bugs that invade like some more...

02:54:00.720 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:54:02.740 Turn it off.

02:54:03.540 Turn it off.

02:54:05.360 Hello?

02:54:06.380 Nick?

02:54:07.980 Oh, okay.

02:54:11.700 What are those...

02:54:12.820 Okay, whatever.

02:54:13.480 Who cares about the bug?

02:54:14.320 Okay.

02:54:15.580 So Salk was joking, saying,

02:54:17.420 why do you think sex is fine after marriage?

02:54:18.760 Yeah, I guess even if you do get married,

02:54:20.360 just never have sex ever.

02:54:21.700 Just die a virgin, I guess.

02:54:23.340 That's Salk's position.

02:54:25.020 Thank you, man.

02:54:25.420 Appreciate it.

02:54:25.860 We have the real Mr. Meatball here.

02:54:27.840 Hey, thank you, man.

02:54:28.800 What's the most attractive job a person can have?

02:54:31.080 That's a good question.

02:54:31.880 We should also say,

02:54:32.700 what's the most unattractive job, too?

02:54:35.320 Let's start with you.

02:54:37.340 Go ahead.

02:54:38.020 What's the most attractive job a person can have

02:54:40.460 and most unattractive?

02:54:44.400 An attractive job to me

02:54:46.180 is someone who follows their passion.

02:54:48.980 I like people who create stuff,

02:54:51.260 like whatever their art may be.

02:54:54.020 Like I like people who make music

02:54:55.680 or like film

02:54:56.860 or some sort of like creative expression.

02:55:01.100 A creative, I guess,

02:55:02.680 if you want one word for it,

02:55:06.640 that would be my pick.

02:55:07.560 Most unattractive job?

02:55:10.380 Most unattractive job.

02:55:13.560 Hmm.

02:55:15.160 Can you scoot the mic closer to you?

02:55:17.160 I can just...

02:55:17.720 Can somebody brush that bug off the table?

02:55:19.600 Yes.

02:55:20.280 I can think of so many.

02:55:24.020 I would say like an internet troll,

02:55:27.040 but they don't get paid.

02:55:29.980 I think some of them do.

02:55:31.440 Maybe, yeah.

02:55:33.900 They do it for free.

02:55:35.660 Yeah.

02:55:38.100 I would say like a job that harmful,

02:55:40.160 like an IRS agent, maybe.

02:55:45.180 OnlyFansGirl, by the way.

02:55:47.380 Excuse me?

02:55:48.580 You're answering that?

02:55:49.520 Do you pay your taxes?

02:55:50.700 Yes, I do.

02:55:51.340 Do you?

02:55:51.840 Yes.

02:55:52.000 How do you pay them?

02:55:53.280 Well, I file them with my accountant

02:55:55.740 and then I sometimes send a wire transfer.

02:55:59.420 Oh, okay.

02:56:00.280 How do you pay your taxes?

02:56:02.260 I don't.

02:56:02.660 Don't.

02:56:02.940 I don't.

02:56:03.520 I never pay them.

02:56:04.540 You should probably say that off the record.

02:56:06.880 Are you serious?

02:56:08.060 Yeah.

02:56:08.560 No, I'm totally serious.

02:56:09.920 Yeah, some people don't.

02:56:11.400 Why do I look like I don't pay my taxes?

02:56:15.200 Well, I remember there was that big movement.

02:56:16.800 What was this?

02:56:17.280 Like probably four or five years ago.

02:56:18.580 It was called the...

02:56:19.020 Abolish the IRS.

02:56:20.120 No, it was called the Thought Audit.

02:56:22.000 And it was a bunch of trolls online

02:56:23.300 going around reporting sex workers

02:56:25.420 trying to get them to go to jail

02:56:27.000 for not paying their taxes.

02:56:28.260 Yeah.

02:56:28.520 Like a bunch of 4chan people.

02:56:29.340 Well, when you,

02:56:30.360 especially when I was a dancer,

02:56:32.200 like it's very difficult to file your taxes

02:56:34.720 because it's like so all over the place.

02:56:36.760 All the single bills.

02:56:38.980 You know, the single bills from the...

02:56:41.260 Yeah, that's why it's so hard.

02:56:43.820 There's a lot of loose bills

02:56:45.020 when you're being in the room.

02:56:46.360 When you're stripping.

02:56:47.020 Yeah.

02:56:47.340 Well, you just don't claim those.

02:56:48.400 You just don't pay taxes on those.

02:56:49.580 That's cash.

02:56:50.140 That's cash.

02:56:50.680 Yeah.

02:56:51.640 Well, you guys got it all figured out.

02:56:53.520 If you ever take home a bunch of single dollar bills,

02:56:56.540 you already know what you're going to do.

02:56:58.360 So I love it.

02:56:59.340 Most unattractive,

02:57:02.260 or excuse me,

02:57:02.880 most attractive job a person can have?

02:57:04.820 I think for me,

02:57:06.200 the most attractive job

02:57:07.600 would have to do with education.

02:57:10.960 Maybe like a teacher, a professor.

02:57:13.460 I just, I'm a big fan of knowledge.

02:57:16.860 And for unattractive, I'm not really sure.

02:57:20.200 I don't think I can think of one right now.

02:57:21.980 Okay.

02:57:22.460 What about you?

02:57:23.520 The most attractive job to me

02:57:26.100 is something that serves other people.

02:57:28.200 Um, so like doctors or like therapists.

02:57:33.080 Um, yeah.

02:57:35.340 Something like self, you know, sacrificing.

02:57:37.680 And then, um, on the opposite end,

02:57:40.520 unattractive would be something that takes from others

02:57:43.600 and just serves yourself.

02:57:45.040 Like those Indian guys, you know,

02:57:48.100 those Indian call like scam guys

02:57:50.340 who like get your grandma to like-

02:57:51.740 The scammer.

02:57:52.340 Give their credit card.

02:57:55.140 That's a good one.

02:57:55.860 Trolls and scammers.

02:57:57.460 Yeah.

02:57:57.940 Um, I think the most attractive job

02:58:02.940 someone can have is one that

02:58:04.540 is, like provides them stability.

02:58:09.000 Not just like,

02:58:09.560 because I know like for some jobs,

02:58:11.700 scheduling can be all over the place.

02:58:13.280 So I'm not talking to like that type of stability,

02:58:15.000 but it's something that can support someone's life.

02:58:17.160 And, um, I guess just

02:58:19.240 allow them to live a comfortable life.

02:58:22.300 And then unattractive job is,

02:58:24.280 I'd have to say the same,

02:58:25.180 something where you're taking from others,

02:58:27.480 hurting others, or, yeah, stuff like that.

02:58:31.840 I just think something that,

02:58:33.560 that gives you happiness.

02:58:35.080 Like a lot of people like follow their dreams.

02:58:37.160 Like some type of job that gives you a sense,

02:58:40.340 like something you enjoy.

02:58:41.380 Like you don't want to spend 40 hours a week

02:58:43.240 doing something you hate,

02:58:44.420 sitting behind a computer and just crying.

02:58:47.060 You know, something that brings you joy

02:58:48.520 and you can enjoy and actually prosper with.

02:58:52.300 Um, but like unattractive,

02:58:54.120 I'd say maybe people that just don't work,

02:58:58.040 sit on their butt, scam, scam, anything.

02:59:00.780 Unemployed.

02:59:01.620 Unemployed.

02:59:02.420 There you have it.

02:59:03.220 Just sit on their couch,

02:59:04.240 meet soft people.

02:59:05.500 Most unattractive job is no job.

02:59:08.100 Real.

02:59:09.200 That's real.

02:59:11.600 I think the most attractive thing

02:59:14.040 that someone can do,

02:59:16.400 um, I agree with Grace,

02:59:17.500 it's when you're passionate about something,

02:59:18.900 but I also think if you can figure out

02:59:20.820 how to create a career

02:59:23.460 or work in a line with your passion

02:59:25.740 for the betterment of society and humanity.

02:59:28.300 Um, so I,

02:59:29.640 I think that any, uh, profession

02:59:32.880 or job in that category is very attractive.

02:59:36.580 It's, it's encouraging and attractive

02:59:38.500 to see people sacrificing their comfort

02:59:41.280 for the betterment of other people

02:59:42.960 or to defend the dignity of other people,

02:59:45.480 um, whether that's in the United States or abroad.

02:59:47.980 And I have to agree that the most unattractive job

02:59:50.620 is no job.

02:59:51.380 As long as you're doing something,

02:59:53.040 please do something.

02:59:54.960 Every person, not just men.

02:59:56.440 I like, like, uh, a CEO, a manager,

03:00:02.540 any man that can just walk around

03:00:04.440 in, like, a spiffy suit.

03:00:06.300 You like a man in charge.

03:00:07.580 Yeah, I like a man in charge.

03:00:08.940 You know, he worked for her spot up there,

03:00:10.740 so you know he's hardworking.

03:00:12.240 Yeah.

03:00:12.520 And most unattractive,

03:00:14.080 probably, like, a sex worker.

03:00:17.220 No offense.

03:00:18.220 But, yeah, something like that.

03:00:20.860 Are there a lot,

03:00:21.420 there's not a lot of men

03:00:22.220 who do sex work, though.

03:00:23.520 Like, porn?

03:00:24.460 There is a lot of men who do porn.

03:00:26.020 Well, not as many as women.

03:00:28.100 Yeah, but I didn't argue that.

03:00:30.120 Fair enough.

03:00:30.720 What about you, Matt?

03:00:31.260 And they're typically less successful.

03:00:33.380 Yeah.

03:00:34.000 I think probably the most,

03:00:34.900 uh, the most, um,

03:00:37.280 respected job

03:00:38.780 or the most desirable job

03:00:39.820 for a woman, in my opinion,

03:00:40.680 is probably stay-at-home mother.

03:00:42.460 She's raising kids.

03:00:43.320 She's pumping kids out,

03:00:44.580 raising kids.

03:00:45.640 Um, and then,

03:00:47.280 least respected

03:00:48.300 or least desired for me

03:00:49.300 is, like, a sex worker

03:00:50.360 or a drug dealer.

03:00:51.640 Something like that.

03:00:52.320 Oh, yeah, drug dealer.

03:00:53.520 I forgot about that one.

03:00:54.500 That's pretty, um...

03:00:55.220 It kind of turns...

03:00:56.320 I mean, if you like it

03:00:57.460 and it brings you joy...

03:00:58.920 Drug dealing?

03:01:00.240 Drug dealing?

03:01:00.860 I've got my preferences.

03:01:01.960 Personally, I'm not a drug dealer.

03:01:03.380 So many people die

03:01:04.440 at the hands of drug dealers.

03:01:05.820 Oh, yeah.

03:01:06.240 And we need a whole

03:01:06.680 drug dealer's accountable.

03:01:07.800 Is there something

03:01:08.500 you want to tell us?

03:01:09.460 I'm not a drug dealer.

03:01:10.860 I've never sold drugs.

03:01:13.240 I can assure you of that.

03:01:13.840 Ben, the offender

03:01:14.420 donated $99.

03:01:16.560 Would any of you

03:01:17.420 date a blue-collar worker?

03:01:18.840 We'll do a show of hands

03:01:19.680 on this one.

03:01:20.200 Show of hands,

03:01:20.660 would you date

03:01:20.980 a blue-collar worker?

03:01:22.200 Yes.

03:01:22.740 Like, right now, yes.

03:01:23.980 In the future, no.

03:01:25.020 No?

03:01:25.220 Well, I'm not going to,

03:01:26.300 so my boyfriend's

03:01:27.780 going to be well off.

03:01:28.600 I appreciate you.

03:01:30.080 Matt, what's a blue-collar worker?

03:01:32.140 Someone that is

03:01:33.120 not working behind

03:01:34.080 a computer,

03:01:35.020 someone that is

03:01:35.420 working with their hands.

03:01:36.280 They're a tradesman.

03:01:37.200 They're a plumber.

03:01:37.960 They're an electrician.

03:01:38.700 They're getting dirty.

03:01:41.200 They're getting physical.

03:01:42.680 They're not cooked up

03:01:43.820 behind an office

03:01:45.060 or something.

03:01:46.480 Yep.

03:01:46.580 By the way,

03:01:47.760 we need more of those people,

03:01:48.820 more young men

03:01:49.420 to get into the trades.

03:01:50.340 The base blue-collar workers

03:01:51.580 are actually what

03:01:52.340 hold society together

03:01:53.300 and there's like this

03:01:55.260 lack of societal respect

03:01:56.960 or value for the

03:01:57.860 blue-collar tradies.

03:01:58.760 We need more of them.

03:01:59.740 They're the foundation.

03:02:00.760 The base tradies.

03:02:01.260 They are the foundation.

03:02:02.500 And oftentimes,

03:02:03.260 they're going to pay more

03:02:03.900 for you than your

03:02:04.480 bullshit liberal arts

03:02:05.340 college degree

03:02:06.020 and you're not going to

03:02:06.600 have student loan debt

03:02:07.280 coming out anyway.

03:02:07.700 Yeah, don't be a podcast host.

03:02:10.060 No, like, don't.

03:02:11.000 Go do something valuable.

03:02:14.660 Yo, Ben,

03:02:15.120 Ben, the offender.

03:02:16.400 Thank you, man,

03:02:16.840 for the TTS man.

03:02:18.600 I really appreciate it.

03:02:20.540 Did you answer...

03:02:22.800 Oh, I think you answered

03:02:23.640 the previous question.

03:02:24.840 I'll just go to

03:02:25.580 most attractive...

03:02:28.020 Well, I'll start with

03:02:28.520 most unattractive job

03:02:29.780 sex worker.

03:02:31.480 No offense to anybody here.

03:02:32.520 Damn.

03:02:34.360 And...

03:02:35.520 Most attractive...

03:02:39.520 I like women in STEM.

03:02:44.200 So, like, if they're...

03:02:47.780 Like, something in STEM is good.

03:02:51.000 Like, I like smart women, so...

03:02:53.300 Mm-hmm.

03:02:54.120 STEM.

03:02:54.740 STEM's pretty good.

03:02:56.060 There you go.

03:02:56.640 Yeah.

03:02:56.940 Any specific type of STEM?

03:02:58.440 I know some sex workers

03:03:00.100 that are also in STEM.

03:03:02.800 One does not undo the other,

03:03:05.400 unfortunately.

03:03:06.120 It's okay.

03:03:07.060 I'm not sure that

03:03:08.220 they would be interested

03:03:09.280 in me, but...

03:03:10.280 Hey, I'm not...

03:03:11.440 Burn.

03:03:12.200 That, that...

03:03:13.460 Burn.

03:03:14.220 If sex workers

03:03:15.300 don't want to date me,

03:03:16.380 I'm not...

03:03:17.280 I'm not...

03:03:17.540 I'm not hurting too bad.

03:03:19.820 Sex and a woman in STEM.

03:03:21.820 Sex and what?

03:03:23.180 I know some sex workers

03:03:24.260 who are...

03:03:25.080 do sex work

03:03:25.700 and are women in STEM.

03:03:27.020 Woe is me.

03:03:27.860 How will I ever recover

03:03:28.840 from all the sex workers

03:03:29.800 that don't want to date me?

03:03:30.960 I will...

03:03:31.540 Brian also doesn't like

03:03:34.560 flight attendants.

03:03:36.640 Oh, I have a...

03:03:37.380 I've got a fucking laundry list

03:03:38.800 of, like, red flag professions.

03:03:40.780 So, hairstylist,

03:03:42.420 anyone who's an equestrian...

03:03:44.740 No offense, Priya,

03:03:46.700 who was on the show.

03:03:47.460 It's just...

03:03:48.120 Warcrafts.

03:03:48.700 You're...

03:03:49.540 Like, women who are, like,

03:03:50.760 really into horses,

03:03:51.540 like horse girls.

03:03:53.020 The priority...

03:03:54.740 The priority...

03:03:56.120 As far as where you're going to fall

03:03:58.860 on her priority list,

03:04:00.140 it's...

03:04:00.580 I said this last show,

03:04:02.080 it's the horse

03:04:03.400 or the horses,

03:04:05.700 father's money,

03:04:07.400 and then you.

03:04:08.320 Did you have a bad experience

03:04:10.060 with an equestrian?

03:04:11.940 No, actually.

03:04:12.720 I've somehow...

03:04:13.700 They've always been a little...

03:04:16.440 Priya was very, very nice.

03:04:18.320 This wasn't...

03:04:19.060 This isn't directed to Priya.

03:04:20.160 She was on our show last week.

03:04:21.220 She has some horses, I guess.

03:04:24.560 I've not had, like,

03:04:25.560 any long-term relationships

03:04:26.560 with any horse girls.

03:04:27.700 I might have been on a date

03:04:29.220 with a horse girl

03:04:30.900 maybe once or twice.

03:04:34.660 I don't know.

03:04:35.400 It just seemed a little, like...

03:04:36.640 It's hard to articulate,

03:04:37.980 but...

03:04:39.060 I don't know.

03:04:39.380 There's something a little off, you know?

03:04:41.120 You know what I mean?

03:04:42.980 You know what I mean?

03:04:43.900 Right?

03:04:45.180 You date women, right?

03:04:46.580 Mm-hmm.

03:04:47.560 You ever seen a horse girl?

03:04:49.580 You know?

03:04:49.820 It's a little something.

03:04:50.660 A little stuffy, you know?

03:04:52.120 They kind of scare me.

03:04:53.300 It's horse girls.

03:04:54.380 It's Harry Potter girls.

03:04:55.900 Disney girls.

03:04:56.720 Yes.

03:04:57.340 With the princess complex.

03:05:01.840 Okay, hairstylist.

03:05:04.220 Yikes.

03:05:04.480 What's the one you like about them?

03:05:06.460 Because I've never thought

03:05:07.220 about that one before.

03:05:07.820 It's just, like,

03:05:08.440 a known thing.

03:05:09.440 Like, hairstylists are...

03:05:13.140 They're kind of crazy.

03:05:14.660 They're crazy.

03:05:15.240 Okay.

03:05:15.520 A little crazy, you know?

03:05:16.580 All right.

03:05:16.800 They listen to other people

03:05:18.860 complain all day.

03:05:19.600 That's kind of sick.

03:05:19.860 What type of guy do you think

03:05:20.760 a young woman shouldn't date?

03:05:21.960 Like, what are the male red flags?

03:05:24.500 In terms of profession?

03:05:26.260 Yeah.

03:05:26.700 Because I would say openly

03:05:28.300 content creator.

03:05:28.920 You should not date a streamer

03:05:29.840 or a YouTuber

03:05:30.280 or something like that.

03:05:31.340 Women avoid those people.

03:05:31.840 Women should avoid those

03:05:33.100 or men should avoid those?

03:05:34.260 Women should avoid content creators.

03:05:36.440 Should men avoid

03:05:37.580 female content creators?

03:05:38.480 Oh, yeah.

03:05:38.880 Probably.

03:05:40.620 Probably.

03:05:41.020 I mean, HR is, like,

03:05:50.920 the woke department

03:05:51.820 for most, like, corporations

03:05:53.160 and they need to, like...

03:05:55.120 They're the ones

03:05:56.280 that are going to be pushing,

03:05:57.300 like, all the DIE stuff

03:05:58.780 and, like, they're the ones

03:05:59.820 that are going to be...

03:06:01.020 I'm trying to think

03:06:02.120 of an example.

03:06:02.700 Like, they're the ones

03:06:03.900 that are typically policing

03:06:05.120 what you can and can't do

03:06:07.040 and that's going to, like,

03:06:07.920 seep into a relationship.

03:06:08.880 So, they tend to be, like,

03:06:10.460 extremely uptight.

03:06:12.860 Very, very, like, rule-driven.

03:06:16.480 I don't know.

03:06:17.140 People in HR...

03:06:18.300 I mean, there's a fucking meme

03:06:19.120 about it in the office

03:06:20.040 but, like, they're, like,

03:06:21.500 the most intolerable fucking people

03:06:23.140 you can imagine.

03:06:25.660 HR people police the megacorp...

03:06:29.960 They police the corporate environment.

03:06:33.880 So...

03:06:34.360 No bueno.

03:06:37.480 Yeah, these are sort of

03:06:38.400 the professional Karens,

03:06:39.520 the absolute sticklers.

03:06:41.480 Yeah, it's...

03:06:42.340 The sticklers.

03:06:43.820 Yeah, HR.

03:06:44.640 I mean, the HR, it's, like...

03:06:47.740 They're typically going to be

03:06:49.580 super woke, not always, but...

03:06:52.860 And I'm not even, like...

03:06:54.360 I'm not, like, overtly...

03:06:55.620 I'm not super political.

03:06:56.640 I consider myself kind of moderate,

03:06:58.040 but, like, you're probably

03:07:00.060 going to lean pretty woke

03:07:00.980 if you're in HR.

03:07:02.360 And then flight attendants,

03:07:03.660 travel nurses are pretty bad,

03:07:05.800 but...

03:07:06.920 Yeah.

03:07:08.040 Hey, a lot of fucking...

03:07:08.940 A lot of people don't like podcast hosts.

03:07:12.220 The reason I say that,

03:07:13.440 I think most people

03:07:15.000 in the content creation business,

03:07:16.500 I think, necessarily have to be

03:07:19.040 kind of self-centered

03:07:19.760 and narcissistic.

03:07:21.180 No.

03:07:22.080 Yeah.

03:07:22.660 Don't say that.

03:07:23.280 And so, I think that generally

03:07:24.580 those people are probably

03:07:25.620 not making the best spouses.

03:07:28.700 That's probably the truth.

03:07:29.520 So, but you're a content creator,

03:07:31.020 so are you snitching on yourself?

03:07:33.940 Ethan donated $99.

03:07:36.380 Prime Marine,

03:07:37.560 now a federal security guard,

03:07:39.580 working on getting into cyber security

03:07:41.680 or majoring in criminology

03:07:43.360 and minoring in psychology.

03:07:45.500 Down to do Border Patrol.

03:07:47.780 VA benefits Virginia home loan

03:07:49.920 and eight free years of college.

03:07:54.800 Cool.

03:07:55.700 Yay.

03:07:56.760 Thank you very much.

03:07:58.120 That's amazing.

03:07:58.880 Thank you for your service.

03:07:59.660 Yeah.

03:08:00.700 I think he wants to know,

03:08:02.460 given what he's just written,

03:08:03.960 would the ladies at this table

03:08:05.360 date Ethan?

03:08:07.800 I mean, I like a man in the service.

03:08:11.860 Ethan, that's a nice name.

03:08:14.900 I don't see a reason why not to.

03:08:17.560 I think we would all want to date you

03:08:19.140 all at once.

03:08:21.400 All right.

03:08:21.940 Their DMs are in the description.

03:08:24.440 You can, uh...

03:08:25.660 Okay.

03:08:26.460 I think...

03:08:26.860 Are we caught up?

03:08:27.440 No, we have...

03:08:28.440 Did we do this one?

03:08:31.180 Ryan, the eating warrior.

03:08:32.260 So weird how after girls go through

03:08:33.760 their wild phase,

03:08:34.700 they cozy up to God

03:08:35.600 and the idea of marriage.

03:08:37.760 Haram!

03:08:40.940 Anybody?

03:08:42.100 I think this might be directed at you.

03:08:43.920 No, it is directed at me.

03:08:45.220 I'd love to respond.

03:08:46.140 I feel like I've been talking a lot.

03:08:47.900 Yeah, I think that what you realize

03:08:51.580 whenever you buy into the lie

03:08:54.640 that these things will make you happy,

03:08:57.160 like dating a lot,

03:08:58.720 drinking a lot,

03:08:59.500 partying a lot,

03:09:00.840 shopping a lot,

03:09:01.960 all of these, you know,

03:09:03.060 things that are coming from the outside.

03:09:05.420 When you buy into the lie

03:09:06.740 that those things will make you happy,

03:09:08.860 you quickly realize

03:09:10.000 that the more you try to do them,

03:09:11.420 the emptier that you feel.

03:09:13.340 And thankfully,

03:09:14.700 I realized that pretty quickly.

03:09:16.640 By the time I was 20,

03:09:17.600 I already realized

03:09:18.600 that I was not having fun,

03:09:19.800 that I didn't feel fulfilled.

03:09:21.940 And honestly,

03:09:23.560 I looked in the mirror one day

03:09:24.560 and I was like,

03:09:25.860 I don't think I like myself.

03:09:27.380 I know I don't like myself

03:09:28.580 and I know that there must be more for my life.

03:09:30.980 So I said a prayer.

03:09:32.700 I said,

03:09:32.960 God,

03:09:33.700 I know that you say

03:09:35.960 that anyone who is in you

03:09:37.020 is a new creation

03:09:37.820 and I want that new creation life.

03:09:39.540 And I gave my life over to the Lord

03:09:42.180 and I can promise you

03:09:43.800 with every fiber in my being

03:09:46.300 that I never imagined

03:09:47.620 how happy,

03:09:49.580 how fulfilled

03:09:50.360 and just the purpose

03:09:52.360 that I have out of life

03:09:54.080 once I made that decision.

03:09:56.160 And honestly,

03:09:56.820 my relationships are better.

03:09:57.860 I feel like I'm a better person overall.

03:09:59.700 I make better decisions

03:10:00.580 and all my decisions

03:10:02.220 stem from my belief in God

03:10:04.080 and my morals

03:10:06.120 that are based in biblical principles.

03:10:09.540 I can piggyback on that for a minute.

03:10:15.020 I think if you look back at human history,

03:10:17.300 there has never been an easier time

03:10:19.100 to just become,

03:10:20.860 I guess I'll use the phrase,

03:10:22.260 degenerate loser.

03:10:23.160 Like there are so many

03:10:24.280 addicting poisons

03:10:26.940 that are alluring.

03:10:28.120 They're tempting you to taste them

03:10:29.740 in our society.

03:10:30.780 And this is drugs,

03:10:31.660 alcohol,

03:10:32.680 marijuana,

03:10:33.400 video game addiction,

03:10:34.900 pornographic stuff.

03:10:36.140 Who knows?

03:10:36.460 There are so many things

03:10:37.320 that are tempting you.

03:10:38.060 This is food.

03:10:38.560 Obesity is a big one

03:10:39.680 for a lot of people.

03:10:40.660 There are so many things

03:10:41.500 that are just placed in front of you.

03:10:42.480 They're so easy to access

03:10:43.420 and they're beautiful.

03:10:44.220 They're tantalizing.

03:10:45.940 And because those things

03:10:50.180 are so prevalent

03:10:50.880 and poisonous

03:10:51.440 and addictive

03:10:52.000 and tantalizing,

03:10:52.900 it's sort of hard

03:10:54.000 to blame people

03:10:54.660 for taking that bait.

03:10:55.580 And it's all bait.

03:10:56.380 It's been intentionally

03:10:57.300 placed in front of you.

03:10:58.560 It's hard to blame people

03:10:59.520 for taking that bait

03:11:00.320 as long as they,

03:11:03.240 at some point in the future,

03:11:04.620 have a moment of introspection

03:11:05.840 and realize,

03:11:06.820 wow,

03:11:07.160 what I'm doing here is wrong.

03:11:08.560 I need to stop engaging

03:11:09.760 with these things.

03:11:10.940 And then they have a thought process.

03:11:14.440 They say,

03:11:14.780 okay,

03:11:15.100 I need to stop doing this.

03:11:16.500 This is bad for me.

03:11:17.340 It's bad for my loved ones.

03:11:18.280 Whatever it is,

03:11:18.820 maybe it's even bad for society.

03:11:20.220 I need to become better than this

03:11:21.500 and start saying no

03:11:22.420 to these hedonistic decadences

03:11:24.460 or impulses.

03:11:25.400 I need to say no

03:11:26.100 to these things

03:11:26.520 and become a better person.

03:11:27.920 So as long,

03:11:28.760 this is my take,

03:11:29.600 like,

03:11:29.760 and this even translates

03:11:30.960 into the body count thing

03:11:31.980 to a certain degree.

03:11:33.260 As long as someone

03:11:35.060 at some point

03:11:35.780 has a moment of introspection

03:11:37.380 and says,

03:11:38.040 I need to stop being this way,

03:11:40.180 then it's like,

03:11:40.760 okay,

03:11:40.900 we can have a conversation

03:11:41.700 about this, right?

03:11:42.880 I really do believe

03:11:43.800 in that reformation process.

03:11:46.320 And I'm not even Christian,

03:11:47.400 but I think you can get there

03:11:48.380 just looking at

03:11:49.060 kind of how perverse

03:11:50.200 our society is

03:11:51.060 and how many terrible things

03:11:52.960 there are.

03:11:54.780 Word.

03:11:55.480 Okay,

03:11:55.880 let's,

03:11:56.640 we need to shout out

03:11:57.840 everyone on Twitch.

03:11:58.620 Nick,

03:11:58.780 can you pull up

03:11:59.140 the Twitch tab,

03:11:59.740 please?

03:12:00.080 Make sure it's an F11.

03:12:00.920 And then we have

03:12:03.980 a couple more questions here.

03:12:05.100 We have to get through

03:12:05.700 a couple things.

03:12:08.560 Guys,

03:12:09.020 please go over to

03:12:09.620 twitch.tv

03:12:10.420 slash whatever.

03:12:12.380 Drop us a follow.

03:12:13.480 Drop us a prime sub.

03:12:15.240 Twitch.tv

03:12:16.140 slash whatever mods

03:12:16.940 if you can spam

03:12:17.440 and then chat a bunch of times.

03:12:18.500 Guys,

03:12:18.740 this is a great opportunity.

03:12:20.000 Drop us a follow.

03:12:20.700 Drop us a prime sub.

03:12:21.920 The stream quality

03:12:22.580 is typically better

03:12:23.220 on Twitch.

03:12:25.320 And,

03:12:25.640 yeah,

03:12:26.880 and we are actually

03:12:28.020 going to start streaming

03:12:28.780 here pretty soon.

03:12:29.740 Madison's going to be

03:12:30.520 streaming via the

03:12:32.160 whatever

03:12:32.640 account on Twitch

03:12:35.260 doing her own

03:12:36.680 little show there.

03:12:37.680 So,

03:12:38.140 that's in the works.

03:12:39.040 We're going to get

03:12:39.380 that going soon.

03:12:40.600 I wanted to,

03:12:41.920 and this came up

03:12:43.060 like much earlier

03:12:44.780 on in the podcast

03:12:45.460 and we got interrupted

03:12:46.940 by,

03:12:47.460 I believe,

03:12:47.860 a TTS.

03:12:49.240 So,

03:12:49.860 my question was,

03:12:50.940 we were talking about

03:12:51.500 height.

03:12:53.420 And,

03:12:54.060 I asked,

03:12:55.360 is it wrong to lie

03:12:56.880 as a guy,

03:12:57.700 maybe you've seen it

03:12:58.540 for yourselves,

03:12:59.400 is it wrong to lie

03:13:00.520 about your height

03:13:01.800 on a dating app

03:13:02.660 or otherwise?

03:13:04.660 And,

03:13:05.180 if I,

03:13:06.260 maybe show of hands,

03:13:08.500 I think most of you

03:13:09.300 said,

03:13:09.560 yeah,

03:13:09.700 it's wrong.

03:13:10.260 Men should not lie

03:13:11.320 about their height.

03:13:14.280 You,

03:13:14.660 I mean,

03:13:15.220 if you like round up

03:13:16.100 a little,

03:13:16.400 I feel like it's fine.

03:13:17.600 More than like

03:13:18.560 one or two inches,

03:13:21.100 I think is,

03:13:21.880 that's too much.

03:13:22.180 so you're like,

03:13:22.920 so what you're saying

03:13:23.960 is,

03:13:24.100 I think it's wrong

03:13:24.760 to lie in general

03:13:25.840 but a little,

03:13:27.640 like a couple inches

03:13:28.560 isn't going to hurt anybody.

03:13:30.140 Okay.

03:13:30.720 So,

03:13:31.060 I have a question

03:13:31.540 kind of related to that.

03:13:32.880 So,

03:13:33.240 if men,

03:13:34.140 it's wrong for men

03:13:35.100 to lie about their height,

03:13:37.000 do you also think

03:13:38.240 that it's wrong

03:13:38.900 for say,

03:13:40.280 women to lie about

03:13:41.460 their just general

03:13:42.560 physical appearance?

03:13:43.600 I mean,

03:13:43.860 that's where

03:13:44.540 this is going.

03:13:46.460 Well,

03:13:46.800 for example,

03:13:47.600 oftentimes,

03:13:48.840 well,

03:13:49.100 for example,

03:13:49.620 when it comes to men

03:13:51.240 misrepresenting their height

03:13:52.600 on a dating app,

03:13:55.060 you'll often see,

03:13:56.460 and I'm not on any

03:13:57.220 dating apps right now,

03:13:58.060 although I used to be,

03:13:59.180 I would say like

03:14:00.120 more than 50% of profiles

03:14:01.640 the women would use,

03:14:03.400 sometimes one,

03:14:04.240 sometimes two,

03:14:05.040 sometimes all their photos

03:14:06.240 would be heavily filtered.

03:14:08.020 So,

03:14:08.540 they'd use like

03:14:09.040 one of those face filter,

03:14:10.000 face tune,

03:14:10.500 whatever it may be,

03:14:11.760 which is lying about

03:14:13.760 your physical appearance.

03:14:15.800 So,

03:14:16.340 should we ban physical,

03:14:17.800 or excuse me,

03:14:18.300 should we ban face filters

03:14:19.900 on dating apps?

03:14:21.940 And not only that,

03:14:23.040 but then you also have

03:14:23.640 Photoshop,

03:14:24.620 they might suck

03:14:25.940 in their waist a little bit,

03:14:26.980 not literally suck

03:14:28.100 in their waist,

03:14:28.540 but they might use Photoshop

03:14:29.380 to change their waist.

03:14:35.100 And then you also had,

03:14:37.620 for example,

03:14:38.800 perhaps excessive use

03:14:40.220 of makeup,

03:14:41.860 and I'm trying to think

03:14:43.660 if there's any other

03:14:44.760 things that are done.

03:14:46.620 those are the main ones,

03:14:48.820 I reckon.

03:14:50.540 I think society

03:14:51.860 has created

03:14:53.260 a culture

03:14:54.340 where women

03:14:55.560 are held

03:14:56.400 to this

03:14:57.400 very

03:14:58.180 high standard

03:14:59.680 of beauty,

03:15:01.000 of body type.

03:15:02.460 Erroneous!

03:15:03.900 Erroneous!

03:15:05.240 Disagree.

03:15:06.360 Okay.

03:15:06.800 Compared to men,

03:15:07.420 but I'll let,

03:15:07.840 go ahead and I'll.

03:15:08.640 I didn't say compared to men.

03:15:10.000 And over sexualized standard.

03:15:14.120 And so I think,

03:15:15.980 actually,

03:15:16.780 okay,

03:15:17.220 so full disclosure,

03:15:19.240 I get Botox.

03:15:20.120 I'm not embarrassed

03:15:21.180 to admit that.

03:15:22.400 It's the only thing

03:15:23.180 that I've done,

03:15:24.320 but I'm all for facials

03:15:26.720 and Botox,

03:15:27.560 and I'm a girl's girl

03:15:28.660 in every aspect

03:15:29.280 when it comes to that.

03:15:30.640 But it's interesting

03:15:31.680 because I was talking

03:15:32.600 to the nurse

03:15:35.160 who does my injections,

03:15:36.140 and she was telling me

03:15:37.580 that a woman came in

03:15:39.140 for a consultation

03:15:40.520 for a nose job

03:15:41.880 and she said,

03:15:43.420 I like the way

03:15:44.060 my nose looks in person.

03:15:46.040 I don't like the way

03:15:47.220 it looks online.

03:15:48.300 So can we get a nose job

03:15:49.820 to make my nose look better

03:15:51.560 in pictures?

03:15:52.700 So we actually have

03:15:53.600 this crisis of women

03:15:55.580 wanting to look,

03:15:56.860 and people in general,

03:15:57.900 I don't think it's just women,

03:15:59.160 I think it's men too,

03:16:00.580 caring so much

03:16:01.540 about our online presence

03:16:03.360 and comparing ourselves

03:16:05.780 to this unrealistic

03:16:06.860 standard of beauty

03:16:07.880 where we're so unhappy

03:16:09.560 with the way that we look,

03:16:10.700 and it's not just in person,

03:16:13.240 it's online.

03:16:14.720 People care more about now

03:16:16.160 how they're being presented

03:16:17.900 online than in real life.

03:16:19.520 So I think that that's a crisis,

03:16:21.280 and I think that it's a tragedy

03:16:25.420 that women and young girls,

03:16:28.240 because before it was even like,

03:16:29.980 maybe you're a little bit older

03:16:30.960 when you started reading

03:16:31.720 the magazines,

03:16:32.360 but now it's like,

03:16:33.480 our young girls,

03:16:34.460 I have little sisters,

03:16:35.780 and it breaks my heart

03:16:36.820 when they are comparing themselves

03:16:38.160 to how they look online.

03:16:39.660 And it's breeded in us

03:16:40.780 from the time

03:16:41.140 that we're very young.

03:16:41.940 I agree with you.

03:16:42.840 I feel like filters

03:16:43.660 can be harmful

03:16:44.520 to the way people

03:16:46.020 are perceiving you

03:16:47.200 if you're misrepresenting yourself,

03:16:48.680 and I feel like

03:16:49.240 they can also be harmful

03:16:50.260 to the people using them,

03:16:52.200 because if you're always

03:16:53.120 seeing yourself

03:16:53.960 a little bit better

03:16:54.920 than you naturally look,

03:16:56.220 it makes you try

03:16:58.380 and look like something

03:16:59.160 that you in real life

03:17:00.620 will never achieve.

03:17:01.600 So I feel like

03:17:02.780 it distorts

03:17:03.680 your image of yourself

03:17:05.480 and other people's

03:17:06.580 image of you.

03:17:08.600 But also like

03:17:09.680 wearing makeup

03:17:10.540 and stuff,

03:17:11.380 like people

03:17:11.920 want to express themselves

03:17:14.060 in the ways

03:17:15.500 that they do.

03:17:16.200 I don't think

03:17:16.640 people are always

03:17:17.460 wearing makeup

03:17:18.460 in an attempt

03:17:19.000 to like deceive someone.

03:17:22.020 Yeah, I agree with that.

03:17:24.300 It's almost like a uniform,

03:17:25.660 like a guy

03:17:26.080 when you get dressed up,

03:17:26.960 you're going to like

03:17:27.580 look put together.

03:17:28.920 I feel like makeup,

03:17:29.740 not that it's the standard,

03:17:30.860 but I feel like makeup

03:17:31.620 is a part of looking

03:17:33.440 put together as well.

03:17:34.660 Yeah, and I feel like

03:17:35.860 sometimes it's exaggerated

03:17:37.140 how much like

03:17:38.220 someone can actually

03:17:39.640 change from makeup.

03:17:42.460 Like it takes a lot more

03:17:43.840 than most people go through.

03:17:46.460 Makeup pretty substantially

03:17:47.900 changes or can change

03:17:50.060 a woman's physical appearance.

03:17:52.820 And it's not how

03:17:53.820 you actually look.

03:17:57.500 But to bring it back

03:17:59.000 to my point.

03:17:59.500 What's your argument though?

03:18:00.480 Well, if it's wrong

03:18:01.920 for men to misrepresent

03:18:03.300 or lie about their height

03:18:04.800 on a dating app,

03:18:05.980 then should it also

03:18:07.240 be the case that

03:18:08.020 women ought not to wear

03:18:09.420 makeup in their photos

03:18:10.940 that they present

03:18:11.740 on dating apps?

03:18:12.500 Why do men...

03:18:12.880 Or more egregiously

03:18:16.140 using filters

03:18:17.680 and photoshopping

03:18:19.500 your body

03:18:20.000 and, you know...

03:18:21.960 Why do you think

03:18:22.880 that men feel like

03:18:23.640 they need a lie

03:18:24.220 about their height?

03:18:25.900 Why do I think men...

03:18:28.880 Because height

03:18:30.120 is an attraction trigger

03:18:31.180 for women.

03:18:32.660 You hear a lot of women

03:18:34.260 say,

03:18:34.800 I want to date

03:18:35.380 a guy who's tall.

03:18:37.220 Yeah.

03:18:37.780 So they recognize

03:18:39.240 that it's an attraction trigger.

03:18:40.540 So it's unrealistic standards.

03:18:42.200 It's this crisis

03:18:43.660 of unrealistic standards

03:18:44.900 and beauty

03:18:45.300 in our society

03:18:46.100 that comes not only

03:18:47.740 from the mainstream media

03:18:50.040 but social media

03:18:51.180 and what's being presented

03:18:52.780 as desirable

03:18:53.560 and attractive.

03:18:55.600 Okay.

03:18:56.560 Well, I mean,

03:18:57.060 I think there's a biological reason

03:18:58.520 why women are,

03:18:59.800 generally speaking,

03:19:00.360 more attracted to tall men

03:19:01.580 and that comes down

03:19:02.480 to the ability

03:19:03.540 to protect.

03:19:05.560 Men who are tall

03:19:06.540 who are physically large...

03:19:08.140 Hold on.

03:19:08.580 Men who are tall

03:19:09.380 are more capable

03:19:10.940 of protecting a woman

03:19:12.460 and being capable

03:19:13.660 of protection

03:19:14.480 is an attraction trigger

03:19:15.940 in women.

03:19:16.580 Right.

03:19:16.780 There's a biological reason

03:19:18.060 why men are attracted

03:19:19.220 to the features

03:19:20.200 that women enhance

03:19:21.420 with makeup, too.

03:19:23.560 Okay.

03:19:24.480 I think what makeup does

03:19:25.520 for women

03:19:25.780 is generally make them

03:19:26.480 look younger,

03:19:27.580 right,

03:19:27.880 which is appealing to men.

03:19:28.780 I actually disagree with that.

03:19:29.920 I think a lot of people

03:19:31.540 when they wear makeup

03:19:32.840 makes them look older,

03:19:33.800 especially if you have

03:19:34.600 a lot of makeup on.

03:19:35.320 Yeah, totally.

03:19:35.840 Do any of you guys

03:19:36.520 over here have an input?

03:19:38.560 On makeup-wise?

03:19:39.960 Well, just on the art.

03:19:40.680 Okay.

03:19:41.000 Personally,

03:19:41.560 I don't like the filters

03:19:43.360 or editing

03:19:44.180 because you're just giving

03:19:45.220 a false reality

03:19:46.680 to who's swiping right

03:19:48.140 or looking at you

03:19:49.260 because when they meet you

03:19:50.240 in person,

03:19:50.680 they're going to be like,

03:19:51.160 oh, this is not the person

03:19:52.120 I was wanting to meet.

03:19:53.520 This isn't going to go

03:19:54.120 any farther.

03:19:54.840 You look nothing like

03:19:56.000 what I thought you did.

03:19:57.900 Do you know what I mean?

03:19:59.180 Mm-hmm.

03:20:00.120 Yeah.

03:20:01.240 I agree.

03:20:02.300 I agree.

03:20:03.340 For me,

03:20:04.520 I'd say with the makeup thing,

03:20:05.940 I started using makeup

03:20:06.940 when I was 10

03:20:08.520 and I think when I was that age,

03:20:12.660 the purpose was to look older

03:20:14.420 because I felt like

03:20:16.640 that was kind of the pressure

03:20:17.940 I was subjected to

03:20:19.180 and I wanted to look older

03:20:20.480 and mature,

03:20:21.080 but now that I'm older,

03:20:22.720 I think it's more because,

03:20:25.120 like I said,

03:20:25.660 it makes me feel put together

03:20:26.720 and it makes me feel good

03:20:27.800 going about my day,

03:20:29.320 but then also for the filters,

03:20:31.660 I agree with Armani

03:20:33.780 that it's just like sad

03:20:37.080 that we have to get

03:20:37.860 to that point of line

03:20:38.780 and again,

03:20:39.900 like I think social media

03:20:41.160 is so fabricated

03:20:42.160 in so many ways

03:20:43.000 and there's just like

03:20:44.180 that risk

03:20:44.700 that you have to take

03:20:45.300 into account like,

03:20:47.420 oh, this person could be

03:20:48.580 looking different in person

03:20:49.680 because you are going

03:20:51.540 to look different in person.

03:20:52.420 Like no one's going

03:20:53.000 to look the same

03:20:53.940 in a photo,

03:20:55.020 I think.

03:20:56.780 This would be a curious

03:20:57.620 question for the chat.

03:20:59.260 I'm not on dating apps

03:21:00.360 right now.

03:21:01.300 I think you said

03:21:02.220 that you're not either.

03:21:04.000 Would the men in the chat

03:21:05.180 value a woman uploading

03:21:06.900 at a minimum one photo

03:21:08.040 where they've got no makeup?

03:21:08.920 It's like right out

03:21:09.540 of the shower.

03:21:10.140 They said,

03:21:10.640 hey, this is what I look like.

03:21:11.460 No makeup.

03:21:11.960 Here's one photo

03:21:12.440 and then there's maybe

03:21:12.940 nine other photos

03:21:13.640 that I have makeup on

03:21:14.320 where they're done up,

03:21:15.940 but there's one

03:21:16.640 where it's like,

03:21:17.100 hey, this is me.

03:21:18.680 Perfectly natural.

03:21:20.160 Would men appreciate that?

03:21:21.500 I'm sure they would.

03:21:22.460 Because I would imagine,

03:21:23.280 yeah.

03:21:23.360 I'm sure they would.

03:21:24.040 I bet that would go

03:21:24.600 a long way with men

03:21:25.240 on dating apps.

03:21:25.720 I'm not in makeup

03:21:26.780 all the time.

03:21:29.040 Like no filters.

03:21:31.700 Yeah, that's fine,

03:21:32.740 but I'm sure they're,

03:21:34.960 I mean, I've,

03:21:35.680 from my experience

03:21:36.240 on dating apps,

03:21:36.860 haven't been on them

03:21:37.480 in a minute,

03:21:37.960 but I don't know what,

03:21:39.980 I don't know when it was,

03:21:41.500 probably five,

03:21:42.060 six months ago.

03:21:42.620 So, you know,

03:21:44.960 there's,

03:21:45.840 it's pretty actually rare

03:21:49.120 to like see a dating profile

03:21:51.320 where it's either

03:21:52.100 no filter or no makeup.

03:21:55.080 At least one photo.

03:21:56.600 Super rare.

03:21:57.780 Super rare.

03:21:59.240 So,

03:22:00.360 I think makeup,

03:22:01.940 you are effectively lying

03:22:03.580 about your physical appearance

03:22:04.640 in the same way

03:22:05.200 that men lie about,

03:22:06.420 might lie about their height.

03:22:07.640 I just had a memory.

03:22:11.020 You guys can disagree

03:22:11.880 with me, by the way,

03:22:12.900 like hello.

03:22:14.520 Okay, good.

03:22:15.240 Like if you,

03:22:17.040 why do you disagree with me?

03:22:19.500 I don't think it's a lie though.

03:22:22.140 I don't know.

03:22:22.320 But it is,

03:22:22.860 it is,

03:22:23.420 you,

03:22:23.920 that's not what,

03:22:24.800 dyeing your hair is a lie.

03:22:25.560 It's like you're like

03:22:26.300 fixing your hair up.

03:22:27.260 Yeah.

03:22:27.960 You could then say

03:22:28.960 that's like haircuts

03:22:30.140 and beards

03:22:30.860 and skin care

03:22:32.360 and outfits.

03:22:33.840 No, not really because.

03:22:35.400 It's like you're getting

03:22:35.680 a haircut kind of.

03:22:37.640 I mean,

03:22:38.300 one hairstyle over the other

03:22:40.560 may be deemed

03:22:41.260 more physically attractive

03:22:42.400 than the other,

03:22:43.240 certainly.

03:22:44.340 However,

03:22:45.040 makeup is,

03:22:45.740 is this artificial thing

03:22:47.100 that you're putting

03:22:47.660 on your face

03:22:48.360 that can really make,

03:22:52.380 you know,

03:22:52.620 depending on the amount

03:22:53.700 of makeup you're putting on,

03:22:54.920 depending on what type

03:22:55.720 of makeup you're putting on,

03:22:57.380 can pretty substantially

03:22:58.480 change your physical,

03:23:00.040 change how you look.

03:23:02.040 And I think we can all agree,

03:23:03.320 like we look,

03:23:04.400 hair is one thing,

03:23:05.160 but we really do look

03:23:06.320 at face as like

03:23:07.440 a very primary thing

03:23:09.240 that we are attracted to.

03:23:11.960 Yeah.

03:23:13.300 And I will say though

03:23:14.980 that is the purpose

03:23:15.900 of makeup

03:23:16.400 and, you know,

03:23:17.640 given that makeup

03:23:18.460 isn't only exclusive

03:23:19.460 to women.

03:23:21.340 Men don't really,

03:23:22.860 straight men,

03:23:24.200 I would say,

03:23:24.800 even, I mean,

03:23:25.400 most men do not wear makeup.

03:23:26.680 I always thought

03:23:27.300 the purpose of makeup

03:23:28.300 was to accentuate

03:23:29.600 your features,

03:23:30.320 not like completely

03:23:31.500 change your appearance.

03:23:32.780 Yeah, like I'm not born

03:23:33.740 with blue eyelids.

03:23:34.960 Yeah.

03:23:35.660 Like it's an accentuation.

03:23:36.940 Like I feel like

03:23:37.640 there are some cases,

03:23:38.760 like we've all seen

03:23:39.440 videos online

03:23:40.300 where it looks like

03:23:41.000 a completely different person,

03:23:43.360 but I feel like you're like...

03:23:45.620 Most women are not

03:23:46.440 doing that kind of makeup.

03:23:47.260 Yeah, I feel like

03:23:49.000 what you're saying,

03:23:50.740 like it's not actually

03:23:52.000 as common as you think.

03:23:53.980 Like you can't do

03:23:54.760 that much with makeup.

03:23:56.660 I actually,

03:23:57.180 you know what,

03:23:57.580 hold on,

03:23:57.920 I have...

03:23:58.620 I mean,

03:23:58.880 I'm sure you can bring up

03:24:00.060 like an example

03:24:00.860 about your everyday girl,

03:24:02.320 like...

03:24:03.120 There's people that

03:24:04.080 do know how to transform

03:24:05.360 their face with makeup.

03:24:06.260 I mean,

03:24:06.620 I know that I've seen

03:24:07.920 them on TikTok,

03:24:09.180 like,

03:24:09.940 or the people that make

03:24:10.740 themselves look like

03:24:11.740 Michael Jackson.

03:24:12.700 Yeah.

03:24:13.100 You know,

03:24:13.520 like they do all of that

03:24:14.640 with makeup,

03:24:15.160 but the reality is

03:24:16.320 is most women

03:24:17.000 are not doing that

03:24:17.980 every day.

03:24:18.420 Also, in person,

03:24:19.000 like that's gonna look crazy

03:24:20.580 if you get close

03:24:21.420 to the person.

03:24:21.980 Like that doesn't look good either.

03:24:23.280 It's gonna look like

03:24:23.900 dusty and cakey

03:24:25.420 and like it's not gonna,

03:24:27.020 it doesn't have like

03:24:27.900 the magical like powers

03:24:29.680 to make your face

03:24:31.220 look like a completely

03:24:32.080 different natural face

03:24:33.340 up close.

03:24:34.240 Maybe in a camera

03:24:35.040 or an angle

03:24:35.760 or with certain lighting,

03:24:37.360 but in real life,

03:24:39.340 you're like,

03:24:39.780 oh,

03:24:39.920 this is just a lady

03:24:40.800 with a bunch of paint

03:24:41.440 on her face.

03:24:42.140 Here,

03:24:42.400 this is what I have.

03:24:43.280 I actually have,

03:24:44.420 so on my Facebook,

03:24:46.820 Facebook has something

03:24:48.060 called Facebook dating

03:24:49.280 and it's like built in,

03:24:51.280 it's automatically tied

03:24:52.300 into your,

03:24:52.920 if you have the Facebook app,

03:24:54.540 so I'm just gonna pull it up.

03:24:55.700 I don't use it,

03:24:56.480 but I'm just gonna,

03:24:57.740 I'm hoping you guys

03:24:58.860 can take my word for it.

03:24:59.800 I'm just gonna look

03:25:00.360 at the first image

03:25:01.180 that these women show.

03:25:02.420 I'll just swipe,

03:25:03.520 I'll swipe yes or no

03:25:04.560 on every single person

03:25:05.620 and I'll tell you

03:25:06.500 if they have a filter,

03:25:07.280 if they have makeup.

03:25:07.960 Well,

03:25:08.500 I'm gonna assume

03:25:09.140 they almost all of them

03:25:10.060 have makeup.

03:25:10.640 So I'll tell you

03:25:11.020 if they have a filter,

03:25:11.900 which I think is more egregious

03:25:13.220 than wearing makeup.

03:25:14.320 So,

03:25:15.360 yes,

03:25:16.000 she has a filter,

03:25:17.400 filter,

03:25:18.360 filter,

03:25:19.660 filter,

03:25:20.060 filter,

03:25:22.320 filter,

03:25:23.100 filter,

03:25:24.120 how do you tell?

03:25:25.080 Wait,

03:25:25.400 you're gonna show up?

03:25:26.320 I'm not gonna show it to the,

03:25:28.600 I'm not gonna show,

03:25:29.160 how am I gonna?

03:25:29.980 Well,

03:25:30.260 you show it to us,

03:25:31.080 not mine.

03:25:31.560 Just take,

03:25:32.080 I'm,

03:25:32.260 just assume I'm acting

03:25:34.380 in good faith

03:25:34.920 and I'll say yes or no

03:25:35.780 if there's a filter or not.

03:25:37.180 No filter,

03:25:38.340 filter,

03:25:38.940 filter,

03:25:39.920 possibly filter,

03:25:43.280 would you post a photo

03:25:44.260 without your beard?

03:25:45.140 What the fuck?

03:25:46.580 What's that?

03:25:47.280 Would you post a photo

03:25:48.200 on your social

03:25:48.780 without your beard,

03:25:49.400 your facial hair?

03:25:50.080 My beard is natural.

03:25:51.880 What are you hiding

03:25:52.460 under your beard?

03:25:53.260 What's under your beard,

03:25:54.140 Brian?

03:25:54.320 We have no face.

03:25:55.340 Wait,

03:25:55.600 but bald,

03:25:56.200 why would I post a photo?

03:25:57.580 I have a head of hair.

03:25:59.160 When we have a haircut

03:26:00.220 or facial hair

03:26:00.960 is similar to like makeup.

03:26:01.980 It's not.

03:26:02.480 It kind of is

03:26:03.220 because it's natural.

03:26:03.920 It's not because it's natural.

03:26:05.180 If we have a kid with you,

03:26:06.020 we need to know

03:26:06.800 what your face looks like

03:26:07.800 without the beard.

03:26:08.420 So if you want that,

03:26:12.920 if you want that

03:26:13.640 for 32 years of my life,

03:26:15.900 I did not have a beard.

03:26:17.520 You can go on my Instagram.

03:26:18.940 There's plenty of photos

03:26:20.140 of me without a beard,

03:26:22.580 like clean shave.

03:26:23.920 You can find photos of me.

03:26:26.120 Regardless of any of those.

03:26:27.600 Sorry.

03:26:27.840 There's so many guys

03:26:28.620 on dating apps though

03:26:29.340 that are just like

03:26:29.920 editing pictures

03:26:30.580 of like their bodies

03:26:31.440 if they like go to the gym.

03:26:32.820 They're posting shirtless

03:26:34.440 constantly.

03:26:35.400 I think everybody

03:26:36.300 does little stuff

03:26:37.560 to try and like

03:26:38.220 present themselves the best

03:26:39.540 because they feel like

03:26:40.260 it's really competitive

03:26:41.200 and they probably have

03:26:42.400 a lot of insecurities about.

03:26:44.180 Okay.

03:26:44.500 But in any case,

03:26:45.380 beard is something

03:26:46.140 that's natural.

03:26:47.180 Makeup does not

03:26:48.800 magically sprout

03:26:50.600 from your guys' faces.

03:26:51.720 That's something

03:26:52.060 that you have to actively.

03:26:53.440 So I think that

03:26:54.540 we don't have something

03:26:55.240 covering half our face.

03:26:56.860 Do you know what I mean?

03:26:57.700 Well,

03:26:58.040 and one thing

03:26:58.940 I would also point out

03:27:00.200 is when it comes

03:27:01.280 to assessing

03:27:01.960 physical attractiveness

03:27:03.280 and this is getting

03:27:03.960 like very analytical,

03:27:05.320 I would actually argue

03:27:06.960 that the top 50%

03:27:09.840 of one's face

03:27:10.600 is like the thing

03:27:12.500 that's more likely

03:27:13.440 going to be

03:27:14.400 like shifting

03:27:16.240 the someone's attractiveness

03:27:18.300 versus the bottom.

03:27:19.640 That's actually true.

03:27:20.640 Like a lot of attractiveness

03:27:24.340 has to...

03:27:24.840 It's from like here up.

03:27:25.940 Yeah,

03:27:26.160 it's from here up.

03:27:26.840 So yes,

03:27:27.480 I get where you guys

03:27:29.280 are going.

03:27:29.760 Oh,

03:27:29.940 you could hide

03:27:30.420 a weak chin

03:27:31.140 or a weak jawline

03:27:32.140 if you have a beard,

03:27:33.000 but like I think

03:27:34.160 there's makeup

03:27:35.800 covers up

03:27:36.660 way more than that.

03:27:38.520 What about hiding

03:27:39.260 a bald head with a hat?

03:27:40.440 Is there a red flag?

03:27:41.280 Is there a red flag

03:27:42.220 for you ladies

03:27:42.720 if you're on a dating app

03:27:43.860 and every photo

03:27:44.620 of the man is wearing a hat?

03:27:45.380 That's actually...

03:27:46.100 Is that a red flag?

03:27:47.020 I feel like though

03:27:48.020 if you get close enough

03:27:49.120 to a person,

03:27:49.900 eventually all these things

03:27:51.040 are going to come to light.

03:27:52.140 That's what I was going

03:27:52.960 to say actually.

03:27:54.680 Eventually the filters

03:27:56.440 and the makeup

03:27:57.240 and the hats

03:27:58.260 and the beards

03:27:58.800 are going to come off

03:27:59.620 and what you're left with

03:28:01.620 is who you actually are

03:28:03.500 and what makes up

03:28:04.560 your composition

03:28:05.280 as a human being

03:28:06.440 and your character

03:28:07.440 and if you don't have that right,

03:28:08.940 it doesn't matter

03:28:09.660 how many inches you lie

03:28:11.880 on how tall you are

03:28:13.260 or how much filter

03:28:14.880 or makeup you put on.

03:28:16.840 It's who you are

03:28:17.820 and if you could just focus

03:28:19.100 on being the best person

03:28:21.780 and having the best character

03:28:23.680 that you possibly can,

03:28:25.240 then that's going to win you

03:28:26.080 the date and the relationship.

03:28:27.240 Also, if someone lies

03:28:27.920 about a couple inches,

03:28:29.140 I'm not going to say

03:28:30.140 you're calling it heinous

03:28:31.800 and egregious and stuff.

03:28:33.880 It's not that serious to me

03:28:36.180 if people want to feel

03:28:37.120 a little bit better

03:28:38.260 for a second of their life.

03:28:40.420 Well, I'll just...

03:28:41.620 You're going to get to know them

03:28:42.560 and see how they actually look.

03:28:43.900 No matter what,

03:28:44.640 that's going to come to light.

03:28:47.280 You're going to notice

03:28:48.080 one day, baby,

03:28:48.740 you're going to go

03:28:49.160 on a roller coaster

03:28:49.960 and he can't go on.

03:28:51.880 Or, you know, like...

03:28:53.020 He's going to fly down.

03:28:54.060 Yeah, like...

03:28:55.420 You're going to wash your face.

03:28:57.560 Okay, so look,

03:28:58.600 there's a whole bunch

03:28:59.560 of things here.

03:29:00.340 So you said that,

03:29:02.340 well, ultimately,

03:29:03.180 it comes down

03:29:03.640 to who you are as a person.

03:29:05.160 I mean, we can all live

03:29:06.100 in magical Disney fairytale lands,

03:29:08.960 but at the end of the day,

03:29:10.040 for both men and women,

03:29:11.680 we need to be with someone

03:29:12.820 who are physically...

03:29:13.900 Most people need to be

03:29:15.080 with someone

03:29:15.420 they're physically attracted to.

03:29:16.680 If it was the case

03:29:18.220 that both men and women

03:29:19.400 cared so deeply

03:29:20.660 about what people

03:29:22.200 really are like

03:29:23.120 and who they are

03:29:23.800 as a person...

03:29:24.400 I never said physical appearance

03:29:25.980 wasn't important.

03:29:26.780 Hold on, let me finish.

03:29:28.420 Women would not wear makeup.

03:29:29.940 Men would not give a fuck

03:29:31.000 about their height.

03:29:31.560 They wouldn't hide

03:29:32.220 their bald spots.

03:29:33.480 We, both men and women,

03:29:35.360 care about physical attractiveness.

03:29:37.140 Actually, I said earlier...

03:29:39.580 Yeah.

03:29:40.120 ...and I don't remember

03:29:41.200 what the topic was,

03:29:42.100 but I said that

03:29:42.880 one of the important aspects

03:29:44.360 is physical attraction.

03:29:45.800 So I'm not arguing that at all.

03:29:47.640 But physical attraction

03:29:48.800 is not enough.

03:29:49.700 It's not going to make you

03:29:50.640 a good partner or a spouse.

03:29:52.320 That's where it starts.

03:29:55.840 Sure.

03:29:56.140 Initial attraction.

03:29:57.420 Yeah.

03:29:57.720 But it's also like chemical too.

03:30:00.140 Like...

03:30:01.000 Initial attraction,

03:30:02.160 it can start there.

03:30:03.600 Absolutely.

03:30:04.140 And most of the time

03:30:04.740 for most people it does.

03:30:06.320 But I'm saying

03:30:07.340 that it's not enough.

03:30:08.540 It's not enough.

03:30:09.080 People find attractive

03:30:10.440 is different too.

03:30:11.660 Like, you're saying

03:30:12.840 like one standard

03:30:13.880 of attractive.

03:30:15.160 Like, not everyone

03:30:16.100 views things the same way.

03:30:17.500 Okay, but just to address

03:30:18.820 that really quick...

03:30:19.400 You can say majority, I guess.

03:30:20.580 I mean, just to address

03:30:21.360 that really quick,

03:30:22.120 if you line up

03:30:23.240 a hundred people,

03:30:24.900 a hundred men,

03:30:25.580 a hundred women,

03:30:26.120 and they're all kind of

03:30:27.220 like rating the people,

03:30:29.260 there might be some variation.

03:30:31.060 But like, I'd say

03:30:32.380 people could come

03:30:33.540 to a consensus of,

03:30:34.820 okay, here's like

03:30:35.340 the ten most attractive people.

03:30:36.920 Here's the most

03:30:37.620 ten percent attractive people.

03:30:39.080 At least two,

03:30:39.740 like what people

03:30:40.520 view attractive.

03:30:41.100 Okay, I don't know

03:30:42.100 how things are in Kazakhstan.

03:30:43.700 I don't know.

03:30:44.180 But Matt raised

03:30:45.540 a very good point.

03:30:46.660 And I think this is

03:30:47.300 actually a better comparison

03:30:48.320 than one I made,

03:30:49.880 is, well, what about men

03:30:51.860 who are wearing a hat

03:30:53.440 that are hiding

03:30:54.540 their bald spot?

03:30:55.800 I actually think

03:30:56.340 that's a much better

03:30:57.040 comparison to women

03:30:58.380 wearing makeup.

03:31:02.740 Okay.

03:31:03.600 That's a better...

03:31:05.400 Good job, Matt.

03:31:06.980 I'll take off the hat

03:31:09.440 if you take off

03:31:10.260 the makeup, okay?

03:31:11.300 This hat is not coming off.

03:31:12.740 Take off the makeup.

03:31:13.620 I literally wash

03:31:14.840 all my makeup off

03:31:16.320 right now.

03:31:16.740 I have absolutely

03:31:17.280 no problem with that.

03:31:18.060 Yeah, I'm very comfortable

03:31:19.420 without any makeup.

03:31:20.700 Okay, show of hands,

03:31:21.820 show of hands.

03:31:22.360 Who here would be,

03:31:24.300 you know,

03:31:25.280 you match with a guy

03:31:26.320 and he's always

03:31:27.320 wearing a hat

03:31:27.960 and it didn't occur

03:31:28.760 to you that,

03:31:29.360 hmm, maybe he's

03:31:30.000 like hiding out

03:31:30.720 that he's bald

03:31:31.420 or balding or whatever.

03:31:32.600 How many of you

03:31:33.360 would kind of feel

03:31:34.020 like a little bit

03:31:34.720 like he hid something

03:31:36.820 from you

03:31:37.400 or like maybe

03:31:38.740 you're less physically

03:31:39.640 attractive when you

03:31:40.360 find out that

03:31:41.040 he's balding?

03:31:42.940 Well, how am I

03:31:43.480 going to believe

03:31:43.880 that?

03:31:45.100 That's not like

03:31:45.740 the first thing

03:31:46.260 I think,

03:31:46.540 oh my God,

03:31:46.920 he's wearing a hat,

03:31:47.540 he's bald.

03:31:48.460 My concern would be like,

03:31:49.600 oh, this guy

03:31:50.100 is much older than me.

03:31:50.920 But let's not kid.

03:31:52.320 Let's not kid.

03:31:52.980 Women are attracted

03:31:53.700 to men who have

03:31:54.280 a full head of hair.

03:31:55.400 He could be bald.

03:31:56.200 I heard that if you

03:31:57.020 lose your hair young,

03:31:58.380 it means you have

03:31:58.960 more testosterone.

03:32:01.040 Okay.

03:32:01.420 So true.

03:32:02.160 That is so true.

03:32:02.980 But also maybe

03:32:03.640 it means like

03:32:04.480 that you make up

03:32:05.460 for in other masculine ways.

03:32:07.240 But most of you,

03:32:08.040 okay,

03:32:08.200 when he gave this example,

03:32:09.300 most of you recoiled

03:32:10.360 to some degree

03:32:10.980 and were like,

03:32:11.460 oh, like,

03:32:12.260 yeah,

03:32:12.360 that's kind of messed up

03:32:13.060 if a guy wears a hat

03:32:13.940 to hide a bald spot.

03:32:15.240 That's how we feel

03:32:16.380 about women

03:32:17.080 who wear makeup.

03:32:18.860 You are hiding.

03:32:19.480 You want to abolish makeup?

03:32:20.920 Is that what you're saying?

03:32:21.560 You want to abolish makeup

03:32:22.780 and abolish hats

03:32:23.760 and abolish untruthful

03:32:27.200 descriptions on dating profiles.

03:32:30.240 It's misrepresentation.

03:32:31.280 And just be like

03:32:31.840 naked and raw

03:32:32.660 in the street,

03:32:33.380 you know,

03:32:33.620 nothing.

03:32:33.960 It's unrealistic.

03:32:35.000 I mean,

03:32:35.160 give me a break.

03:32:36.500 And regardless

03:32:37.380 if you wear a hat or not,

03:32:38.820 it's like women are liars.

03:32:40.960 And the other thing is,

03:32:41.740 is we are more

03:32:42.460 than our physical appearances.

03:32:44.140 This is true

03:32:44.860 for men and women.

03:32:45.980 We are more

03:32:46.800 than just the way

03:32:47.540 that we look.

03:32:48.200 And I would argue

03:32:48.900 that it's,

03:32:50.340 I mean,

03:32:50.900 not even I would argue,

03:32:51.840 I believe that

03:32:53.160 who we are

03:32:53.980 as a person

03:32:54.660 actually makes us

03:32:55.720 more attractive

03:32:56.260 or less attractive.

03:32:57.800 And you can't,

03:32:59.100 you know,

03:32:59.600 put makeup on that.

03:33:00.660 That is totally true.

03:33:01.660 Like,

03:33:02.060 but I think,

03:33:02.680 I think,

03:33:03.200 I'm not going to

03:33:05.120 tiptoe around this.

03:33:06.420 Like,

03:33:06.880 for me,

03:33:07.220 you need to look

03:33:07.920 a certain way.

03:33:09.540 Physically,

03:33:09.900 you need to meet

03:33:10.600 my criteria

03:33:12.020 that I'm looking for.

03:33:12.920 And then it's like,

03:33:13.780 okay,

03:33:13.940 then do you have

03:33:14.600 a nice personality?

03:33:15.880 That's fine.

03:33:16.360 Physical attraction

03:33:17.180 is important.

03:33:18.120 I've never said

03:33:18.940 that it wasn't.

03:33:19.640 I'm just saying

03:33:20.180 that it's not enough

03:33:20.980 because men and women

03:33:22.320 are more than the way

03:33:23.080 that they look.

03:33:23.780 Just the prettier you are

03:33:25.260 or the more handsome,

03:33:26.920 the taller you are,

03:33:27.540 the more hair that you have

03:33:28.540 is not going to

03:33:29.820 translate into you

03:33:31.280 being a better partner.

03:33:32.420 And I think people

03:33:33.120 can become less

03:33:34.240 or more attractive

03:33:35.140 over time

03:33:35.760 based on like

03:33:36.460 characteristics

03:33:37.100 they demonstrate

03:33:37.940 that aren't just physical.

03:33:38.840 They prove that actually

03:33:39.760 in a study.

03:33:40.380 I don't,

03:33:40.780 I can't remember which one.

03:33:41.720 You could probably Google it,

03:33:42.940 but they prove that

03:33:44.180 people become more attracted

03:33:45.460 to their partner over time,

03:33:47.040 not less attractive.

03:33:47.960 Or even just like

03:33:48.720 being around someone

03:33:49.900 that you might not like

03:33:50.820 find attractive initially

03:33:52.400 and then like more

03:33:53.420 that you're around them

03:33:54.340 you start to see

03:33:55.400 things about them

03:33:56.180 that become attractive.

03:33:59.440 Definitely that.

03:34:00.560 Because sometimes

03:34:01.100 you meet someone

03:34:01.760 and you're like

03:34:02.020 oh they look so nice.

03:34:03.060 Actually I feel like

03:34:03.500 that might even be

03:34:04.460 like more common

03:34:05.440 with like how women

03:34:06.700 view attractiveness

03:34:08.280 in relationships.

03:34:09.720 I feel like it's...

03:34:10.760 They grow.

03:34:11.660 Yeah.

03:34:13.380 You mentioned earlier

03:34:14.680 something about

03:34:15.780 beauty standards

03:34:16.740 and I think you spoke

03:34:18.200 more so from the

03:34:19.080 female side of that.

03:34:21.440 I might,

03:34:22.180 maybe this is a hot take

03:34:23.140 for some of you.

03:34:24.980 I actually think,

03:34:26.360 so let's say,

03:34:27.100 can we all agree

03:34:27.620 that there are

03:34:28.160 male beauty standards

03:34:29.620 and female beauty standards?

03:34:31.900 Perhaps I should say

03:34:32.760 hands,

03:34:33.180 I don't know

03:34:33.500 if beauty is the right word,

03:34:35.120 but in any case.

03:34:37.000 Beauty standards for dogs and cats.

03:34:40.680 For the rest of the show

03:34:41.820 can we just have her

03:34:42.800 do her comedy?

03:34:43.720 Yeah.

03:34:46.500 Don't worry,

03:34:47.180 I kind of will be.

03:34:52.460 Okay.

03:34:54.800 So,

03:34:55.800 there's male beauty standards,

03:34:58.380 there's female beauty standards.

03:34:59.860 I actually think it's harder

03:35:01.140 for a man

03:35:02.900 to reach the ideal

03:35:04.680 than it is for a woman.

03:35:06.560 Ideal meaning?

03:35:07.180 There's more,

03:35:07.840 it's harder for men

03:35:08.920 to reach this supposed

03:35:11.460 beauty standard

03:35:12.320 than it is for women

03:35:13.200 to reach the supposed

03:35:14.260 beauty standard.

03:35:15.120 What standards

03:35:16.040 are you specifically

03:35:16.980 referring to for men?

03:35:18.880 What standards?

03:35:19.620 Well, okay,

03:35:20.100 let's stray a little bit

03:35:22.980 away from face

03:35:23.920 and let's go to body.

03:35:26.100 I would argue

03:35:27.040 that

03:35:27.660 if you,

03:35:30.400 let's take an 18-year-old woman

03:35:32.120 and an 18-year-old man.

03:35:34.360 It's going to be very easy

03:35:35.900 and

03:35:36.920 you would say,

03:35:38.820 I would say that

03:35:39.480 so long as she's not like,

03:35:42.240 either side isn't overweight,

03:35:43.840 the untrained female body

03:35:47.020 is more likely

03:35:47.720 to be deemed attractive

03:35:48.920 than the untrained male body.

03:35:51.220 So,

03:35:51.400 the average female body

03:35:52.960 is more likely

03:35:53.640 to be deemed as attractive

03:35:54.860 than the average male body.

03:35:57.540 I get what you're saying.

03:35:58.440 Like,

03:35:58.560 girls are,

03:35:59.340 like,

03:35:59.640 they wouldn't like things

03:36:00.780 that guys,

03:36:01.320 like,

03:36:01.740 can't really change.

03:36:03.400 Well,

03:36:03.700 okay,

03:36:03.960 for example,

03:36:04.380 like,

03:36:04.640 I would say that

03:36:05.480 the female beauty standard

03:36:06.840 is much more obtainable

03:36:09.280 for women

03:36:10.520 than the ideal

03:36:12.320 male beauty standard

03:36:14.340 is for men.

03:36:15.500 You're talking

03:36:16.060 specifically about bodies,

03:36:17.680 right?

03:36:18.280 Yes,

03:36:18.820 specifically on body now.

03:36:20.240 So,

03:36:20.580 like,

03:36:20.820 fitness,

03:36:21.620 abs,

03:36:22.040 that kind of stuff?

03:36:22.720 Can you get specific?

03:36:24.160 Well,

03:36:24.480 okay,

03:36:24.860 so,

03:36:25.320 obviously,

03:36:25.720 there's a different standard

03:36:26.920 between men and women.

03:36:28.160 I would say,

03:36:28.600 generally speaking,

03:36:29.960 I would say women

03:36:30.720 are attracted to men

03:36:31.700 who have at least

03:36:32.540 some degree

03:36:33.340 of muscular development.

03:36:34.960 However,

03:36:35.300 I don't think

03:36:35.720 we can say the same

03:36:36.380 about men's view

03:36:38.760 of female attractiveness

03:36:40.220 when it comes

03:36:40.680 to their bodies.

03:36:41.900 I think

03:36:42.400 the degree

03:36:43.300 of muscularity

03:36:44.360 on a woman

03:36:44.820 is not particularly,

03:36:46.040 like,

03:36:48.100 really huge.

03:36:49.380 They're different standards,

03:36:50.480 but I,

03:36:51.220 they're,

03:36:51.960 they make it

03:36:53.120 less attainable

03:36:53.920 for women

03:36:54.720 to achieve these standards.

03:36:55.900 I mean,

03:36:56.040 look at the

03:36:56.380 Victoria's Secret models.

03:36:57.940 I mean,

03:36:58.160 when the angels came out,

03:36:59.720 everyone was like,

03:37:00.600 oh my gosh,

03:37:01.140 if I could just have that body.

03:37:02.800 And there was actually

03:37:04.000 an interview

03:37:04.460 by one of the angels

03:37:05.440 where she said

03:37:06.100 that there was

03:37:06.640 so much editing

03:37:07.640 and retouching

03:37:08.500 to even her size zero.

03:37:11.040 I mean,

03:37:11.320 she's not just skinny,

03:37:12.180 she's fit.

03:37:13.060 There was so much editing

03:37:14.200 and retouching

03:37:14.940 to her body

03:37:15.600 that when she saw her ad

03:37:17.640 at Victoria's Secret,

03:37:19.620 her,

03:37:19.860 she asked her mom

03:37:20.600 to take a picture

03:37:21.320 next to her ad

03:37:22.500 and her mom goes,

03:37:23.300 wait,

03:37:23.480 is that you?

03:37:24.160 She didn't even recognize

03:37:25.060 her own daughter.

03:37:25.900 So,

03:37:26.320 it's not just about,

03:37:28.760 I mean,

03:37:29.280 it's,

03:37:29.560 it's,

03:37:30.600 I,

03:37:30.880 I don't,

03:37:31.480 I don't think that's true

03:37:32.220 what you're saying.

03:37:32.760 If there's a statistic,

03:37:34.320 can we present a statistic

03:37:35.320 on that?

03:37:36.220 I would be interested

03:37:36.960 in seeing that.

03:37:37.320 I just need my eyes.

03:37:38.200 I just need my eyes.

03:37:39.520 I don't need some,

03:37:40.480 some,

03:37:40.920 well,

03:37:41.140 I mean,

03:37:41.400 for example.

03:37:41.720 I need the proof

03:37:42.680 because statistics,

03:37:43.980 I mean,

03:37:44.120 if we do a survey

03:37:44.960 of like,

03:37:45.960 of how women feel,

03:37:47.820 like,

03:37:47.980 is it harder for women

03:37:49.400 to achieve these

03:37:50.460 unrealistic beauty standards

03:37:51.660 because there's so much

03:37:52.700 editing and so much

03:37:53.660 retouching?

03:37:54.560 I've,

03:37:54.800 I've,

03:37:54.820 I've written down some notes

03:37:55.820 so I'll,

03:37:56.140 I'll address what you're saying.

03:37:57.220 Okay.

03:37:57.620 So,

03:37:58.360 let's say the female beauty standard

03:37:59.680 is flat stomach,

03:38:01.340 although you need not have abs,

03:38:03.060 maybe a little bit of muscle tone

03:38:04.780 but probably not really necessary

03:38:06.380 and a healthy BMI.

03:38:07.960 That's enough for you to be,

03:38:09.480 have a physically attractive body.

03:38:11.840 I feel like in a woman's mind,

03:38:13.580 like,

03:38:13.920 that is not even close to it.

03:38:16.000 I feel like there's so many more things

03:38:18.100 like your posture,

03:38:20.260 like your hair,

03:38:21.680 your skin,

03:38:22.860 your eyelashes,

03:38:23.880 your eye color.

03:38:25.060 Have you not been listening

03:38:25.820 to the conversation?

03:38:26.640 I'm talking specifically

03:38:27.600 about body right now.

03:38:29.140 I thought you were just talking

03:38:30.080 about female and male attractiveness.

03:38:33.660 I'm,

03:38:33.940 I'm talking about body.

03:38:35.660 We're talking about body.

03:38:37.100 Okay.

03:38:37.660 Continue.

03:38:38.360 What's the next part

03:38:38.980 of what you're saying?

03:38:39.560 So,

03:38:40.320 in order to achieve that,

03:38:41.700 flat stomach,

03:38:42.440 maybe a little bit of muscle tone,

03:38:43.700 healthy BMI range,

03:38:45.200 you just need to go to the gym.

03:38:46.740 Yeah,

03:38:46.900 honestly,

03:38:47.180 you need not even go to the gym.

03:38:48.800 This is achievable

03:38:49.600 purely through diet.

03:38:51.360 So,

03:38:51.920 but if you really wanted to like

03:38:53.520 somewhat maximize your beauty,

03:38:56.840 go to the gym three days a week,

03:38:58.560 eat like 200 calorie depth,

03:39:00.560 below maintenance,

03:39:01.820 and you'll be there in a year

03:39:04.740 if you're starting from average.

03:39:06.580 The male beauty standard

03:39:07.600 that's rarely challenged

03:39:09.580 by mainstream media

03:39:10.600 is literally unobtainable

03:39:12.780 without two,

03:39:13.900 if not three of the following.

03:39:15.260 So,

03:39:15.780 elite genetics,

03:39:16.560 steroids,

03:39:18.020 and five plus years

03:39:19.300 of treating the gym

03:39:20.300 as a part-time

03:39:21.100 or second job.

03:39:23.820 Oh,

03:39:24.260 I completely disagree

03:39:25.120 because a lot of the beauty centers

03:39:26.500 nowadays,

03:39:27.520 like especially

03:39:27.980 coming from me,

03:39:29.020 I've been influenced by media

03:39:30.100 since I was younger

03:39:31.000 than most of you guys

03:39:33.600 and always,

03:39:35.300 it's this Instagram model

03:39:36.300 with a big butt,

03:39:37.560 big boobs,

03:39:38.680 little waist,

03:39:39.620 do you know what I mean?

03:39:40.140 Even then,

03:39:41.040 working on,

03:39:41.800 say you go to the gym,

03:39:42.820 you know,

03:39:43.080 women don't gain muscle

03:39:44.540 as fast as men.

03:39:45.800 That's a fact.

03:39:46.580 And they also don't burn calories

03:39:47.880 as fast.

03:39:48.520 Men are not.

03:39:49.280 A man also burns more calories

03:39:51.760 sitting than a woman does standing.

03:39:53.440 The healthy percentage

03:39:55.040 of body fat

03:39:55.900 for a woman

03:39:56.480 is significantly higher

03:39:58.100 than for a man.

03:39:59.100 I think a man,

03:39:59.860 it's like,

03:40:00.500 what is it,

03:40:00.900 like 3%

03:40:01.740 or something like that?

03:40:02.960 And it's over 10 for women.

03:40:04.620 Okay,

03:40:04.860 we can talk about body fat.

03:40:06.380 I'm actually prepared

03:40:07.000 to also say

03:40:07.840 that in terms of

03:40:09.520 what men will find

03:40:10.840 physically attractive

03:40:11.780 when it comes to a woman's body,

03:40:13.260 there's actually a large,

03:40:14.480 you can fall within

03:40:15.500 a larger body fat percentage range

03:40:17.960 than can a man.

03:40:18.900 So,

03:40:21.420 like for example,

03:40:22.840 thick.

03:40:23.820 Yeah.

03:40:24.860 That's like

03:40:25.860 a certain body fat percentage.

03:40:28.120 I mean,

03:40:28.440 we can debate

03:40:29.400 what thick means.

03:40:30.700 But,

03:40:31.340 you can fall

03:40:32.360 within a much wider range

03:40:34.640 of,

03:40:35.200 when it comes to your body fat percentage

03:40:36.840 as a woman

03:40:37.780 and still be deemed

03:40:39.060 physically attractive.

03:40:40.280 Whereas for men

03:40:40.900 to be deemed

03:40:41.600 physically attractive

03:40:42.660 or to have

03:40:43.540 an attractive body,

03:40:45.140 that body fat percentage range

03:40:47.000 that you must fall into

03:40:48.400 DadBod.

03:40:49.220 Hashtag DadBod.

03:40:50.160 That's code.

03:40:51.320 DadBod's code.

03:40:53.620 DadBod is code.

03:40:54.440 Can I bring this up?

03:40:55.080 Google the truth about DadBod.

03:40:56.140 There's also not a baseline

03:40:57.500 for like women,

03:40:58.460 not all men and women

03:40:59.420 have the same genetics.

03:41:00.480 I think,

03:41:00.820 I think I agree with you

03:41:01.980 over the last like

03:41:02.840 20 or 30 years,

03:41:03.740 Brian,

03:41:03.960 but if you go back

03:41:04.560 to like the 1950s,

03:41:05.460 have you ever seen

03:41:05.860 the old videos

03:41:06.660 of like the Kennedy

03:41:07.820 high school athletic programs

03:41:09.940 in the 1950s?

03:41:10.860 It's like a program

03:41:11.480 that certain high schools

03:41:12.240 had for young men

03:41:13.080 and other high schools didn't.

03:41:14.160 And so you have like

03:41:14.560 these old black and white videos

03:41:15.640 of young men

03:41:16.320 and they're hanging

03:41:17.400 on jungle gyms

03:41:18.080 like 16,

03:41:18.700 17 year old boys

03:41:19.460 in high school.

03:41:19.740 I don't know.

03:41:20.280 That's kind of an exception

03:41:21.380 though to the,

03:41:22.020 like,

03:41:22.320 well,

03:41:22.600 it's like within a year,

03:41:23.720 these are 16 year old boys.

03:41:24.860 They're like,

03:41:25.500 they're like shredded.

03:41:26.320 They're like diced.

03:41:26.920 And so I guess the question

03:41:27.960 is like how much muscle

03:41:28.840 does a man need to have

03:41:30.320 to be attractive to women?

03:41:31.740 Because I think those,

03:41:32.880 those like fit young men

03:41:34.460 is,

03:41:35.100 are women into that

03:41:35.880 or are they into more

03:41:36.760 of like a bodybuilder archetype?

03:41:38.260 Because I'm,

03:41:38.700 I'm bigger than those guys.

03:41:39.700 Like,

03:41:40.120 I,

03:41:40.740 I,

03:41:41.000 I don't know

03:41:42.120 what women,

03:41:43.780 what muscle mass

03:41:44.620 or body fat women

03:41:45.580 holistically prefer.

03:41:46.900 I think that men

03:41:48.260 physically have a harder time

03:41:50.020 in this environment

03:41:50.660 where there's like slop food

03:41:52.380 in our society

03:41:53.140 and everyone's lazy.

03:41:54.340 But like,

03:41:55.060 if you go back

03:41:55.660 just a couple of generations,

03:41:57.240 like it might,

03:41:58.320 might not be true.

03:41:59.280 It might not hold true.

03:41:59.960 I'm not sure.

03:42:00.360 Well,

03:42:00.600 aren't you proving my point?

03:42:01.600 You're saying it's now

03:42:02.320 harder for men

03:42:02.980 to achieve that,

03:42:04.120 that sort of physique.

03:42:05.260 Yeah.

03:42:05.460 So I'm agreeing with you

03:42:06.360 in our like current paradigm,

03:42:07.960 right?

03:42:08.220 Okay.

03:42:08.440 In our current paradigm.

03:42:09.100 Sure,

03:42:09.460 sure,

03:42:09.700 sure.

03:42:10.000 I mean,

03:42:10.360 the one thing

03:42:10.780 I would also point to

03:42:11.560 when it comes to media portrayals,

03:42:13.580 let's take leading men,

03:42:15.200 for example.

03:42:15.780 Let's,

03:42:16.080 let's look at superhero movies.

03:42:18.040 Yeah.

03:42:18.160 So you take like Black Widow,

03:42:19.680 Scarlett Johansson.

03:42:22.540 That's achievable,

03:42:23.400 like by a lot of huge swaths

03:42:27.000 of women,

03:42:27.820 her physique.

03:42:28.500 Yes,

03:42:28.900 yes,

03:42:29.500 no,

03:42:29.720 no,

03:42:29.920 no,

03:42:30.060 no,

03:42:30.120 no,

03:42:30.680 hold on,

03:42:31.000 let me finish my point.

03:42:32.020 Totally wrong about that.

03:42:32.940 She literally went through

03:42:33.660 so much training

03:42:34.680 for any Marvel movies.

03:42:35.160 You guys are full of shit.

03:42:36.480 Hold on.

03:42:36.880 Read anything.

03:42:37.500 Do you know how much

03:42:38.480 Marvel characters go through?

03:42:40.100 They literally changed

03:42:41.160 their whole lives

03:42:42.520 and it is so unattainable,

03:42:44.660 especially when you have

03:42:45.480 a regular job,

03:42:46.520 you go to school,

03:42:47.500 you do all these other things.

03:42:48.720 It is so unattainable.

03:42:50.620 No,

03:42:50.800 no,

03:42:50.880 no,

03:42:50.980 no,

03:42:51.080 that's,

03:42:51.780 we can pull up pictures

03:42:53.400 comparing the leading women

03:42:55.640 in superhero movies.

03:42:57.120 We can look at their physiques

03:42:58.400 and compare it

03:42:59.300 to the physiques of men.

03:43:00.700 All the men,

03:43:02.780 barring maybe one or two

03:43:04.300 who are just genetically gifted,

03:43:06.560 all the men

03:43:07.380 in the superhero movies

03:43:08.620 are on steroids.

03:43:10.500 Okay,

03:43:11.080 so what you're talking about

03:43:12.420 is muscle mass,

03:43:13.660 but that is not what,

03:43:15.340 that is not how women

03:43:17.220 are viewed through the lens

03:43:19.300 of the attractiveness.

03:43:21.320 Yeah,

03:43:21.780 it's not about muscle mass.

03:43:23.360 But that's not what

03:43:24.780 I'm even arguing.

03:43:25.360 So for example,

03:43:25.460 this is great.

03:43:26.220 This is actually,

03:43:26.840 like,

03:43:27.000 let's look at Kim Kardashian.

03:43:27.980 That's not even what I'm arguing.

03:43:28.860 Kim Kardashian brought in,

03:43:31.840 like,

03:43:32.220 the BBL thick era.

03:43:34.300 And,

03:43:34.740 I mean,

03:43:35.240 I would say that she is,

03:43:36.540 like,

03:43:36.620 one of the number one women,

03:43:37.980 her and Kylie Jenner,

03:43:39.340 that our generation looks to

03:43:42.240 as the standard of beauty.

03:43:44.060 So in the 90s,

03:43:45.460 that was not the case.

03:43:46.480 So before it was,

03:43:48.040 like,

03:43:48.760 who were the supermodels

03:43:49.740 of the 90s?

03:43:50.260 Maybe,

03:43:50.500 like,

03:43:50.620 Karlie Kloss was one of them.

03:43:52.440 And they were double zeros.

03:43:54.180 I mean,

03:43:54.420 it was,

03:43:54.900 like,

03:43:55.020 impossible,

03:43:55.580 like,

03:43:56.600 to be that thin.

03:43:57.760 Most women are never

03:43:58.660 going to be a double zero.

03:44:00.120 Now we have Kim Kardashian

03:44:01.300 with,

03:44:02.440 obviously,

03:44:03.140 I mean,

03:44:03.340 this beautiful hourglass figure.

03:44:05.720 I'm sure she has plastic surgery,

03:44:07.640 which I'm not hating

03:44:08.480 on plastic surgery.

03:44:09.480 So please don't take that

03:44:10.500 as my argument.

03:44:10.980 But I'm just saying

03:44:11.440 she altered her body.

03:44:12.760 And now,

03:44:13.120 Kim Kardashian is the standard.

03:44:14.540 So everybody is following

03:44:15.600 that standard.

03:44:16.300 And it's like,

03:44:17.260 okay,

03:44:17.540 now we have skinny is in now.

03:44:19.080 So it's like these

03:44:19.700 completely unrealistic standards,

03:44:21.640 whether it's to be thin

03:44:22.560 or to be overly curvy,

03:44:24.380 that are not natural for women.

03:44:26.300 They're ever changing.

03:44:27.120 They're ever changing.

03:44:28.440 Look,

03:44:29.020 there are certain,

03:44:30.800 there are women

03:44:31.720 who are more curvy than others,

03:44:33.180 some naturally so.

03:44:35.360 Obviously,

03:44:36.000 things like,

03:44:37.320 you know,

03:44:38.400 women don't have

03:44:39.680 really any control over,

03:44:41.340 for example,

03:44:41.780 their breast size,

03:44:42.620 unless they get plastic surgery.

03:44:44.180 I'll give you that.

03:44:45.540 However,

03:44:45.940 when we're speaking about things

03:44:47.320 that are within people's control,

03:44:48.900 for example,

03:44:50.100 we are able to control

03:44:51.700 our weight.

03:44:53.520 Now,

03:44:54.100 how that ultimately

03:44:55.780 ends up looking,

03:44:57.320 weight can be,

03:44:58.540 fat can be distributed

03:44:59.620 differently

03:45:00.260 between different people.

03:45:01.260 but ultimately,

03:45:02.760 you can be within like a healthy,

03:45:05.180 you can be in a healthy

03:45:06.480 body fat percentage,

03:45:07.620 whether you're a man

03:45:08.420 or you're a woman.

03:45:10.280 So,

03:45:11.380 you,

03:45:11.820 but you did kind of ignore

03:45:12.760 my point about like,

03:45:13.780 let's look at leading,

03:45:15.280 leading men

03:45:16.820 and leading women

03:45:17.480 in like superhero films.

03:45:19.200 if you look at like

03:45:21.380 the top people

03:45:22.400 in media

03:45:23.940 to have an ideal physique

03:45:26.660 as a man,

03:45:27.320 like,

03:45:28.200 look at the superhero movies,

03:45:29.820 they're all on steroids.

03:45:32.660 Scarlett Johansson

03:45:33.580 has plastic surgery.

03:45:35.560 On her body?

03:45:36.760 Yes.

03:45:37.520 Yeah.

03:45:38.200 Absolutely.

03:45:39.460 So,

03:45:39.940 it's,

03:45:40.260 I mean,

03:45:40.560 I,

03:45:40.820 what evidence do you have

03:45:42.000 for that?

03:45:42.480 Google it.

03:45:43.520 She has,

03:45:44.020 she has a breast job

03:45:45.140 or excuse me,

03:45:45.920 Google job?

03:45:46.520 Oh,

03:45:46.760 definitely.

03:45:47.240 Probably.

03:45:48.120 I don't think she might,

03:45:50.080 maybe,

03:45:50.320 maybe her face,

03:45:51.180 but I'm not convinced

03:45:51.960 her body is.

03:45:53.200 You know what I read?

03:45:54.020 I think she actually

03:45:54.680 had breast reduction surgery

03:45:55.740 at one point.

03:45:56.480 Okay.

03:45:56.960 So,

03:45:57.160 there it is as well.

03:45:58.800 So,

03:45:59.180 either way,

03:46:00.180 it's plastic surgery.

03:46:02.200 And besides that,

03:46:03.180 I mean,

03:46:03.460 it's plastic surgery

03:46:04.560 that is like public

03:46:05.500 information as well.

03:46:06.980 That's what I was going

03:46:07.460 to say.

03:46:07.760 A lot of these women

03:46:08.600 are getting,

03:46:09.300 I mean,

03:46:09.600 so many things done.

03:46:10.580 Like,

03:46:10.780 for example,

03:46:11.840 let's go to the

03:46:12.740 Kylie Jenner thing

03:46:13.400 where she denied

03:46:14.160 having plastic surgery.

03:46:15.320 She had this total

03:46:16.140 transformation.

03:46:17.060 And again,

03:46:17.400 no shame to plastic surgery,

03:46:18.600 but it's like,

03:46:19.540 if you're going to do it,

03:46:20.680 please take ownership

03:46:21.520 of it so we can stop

03:46:22.880 believing that these

03:46:24.680 are natural.

03:46:25.620 Yeah.

03:46:25.880 I think it would have,

03:46:27.000 like,

03:46:27.140 people would have

03:46:27.620 a better understanding

03:46:28.620 of like what,

03:46:29.480 like plastic surgery,

03:46:30.600 like how it actually

03:46:31.540 looks on people.

03:46:32.940 In real life.

03:46:33.480 In real,

03:46:34.060 yeah.

03:46:34.560 Yep.

03:46:36.340 I totally agree.

03:46:37.080 some plastic surgery

03:46:38.280 isn't as like,

03:46:39.960 I feel like a lot of

03:46:40.640 times when people

03:46:41.100 think plastic surgery,

03:46:42.180 they think like extreme,

03:46:43.620 like Kylie,

03:46:44.200 who's probably had like

03:46:45.120 seven or eight procedures

03:46:46.420 to like,

03:46:47.640 or that look like

03:46:48.760 sometimes celebrities

03:46:49.960 have plastic surgery

03:46:51.060 that's very subtle

03:46:52.040 and people might not

03:46:53.000 notice like to be

03:46:54.100 that way.

03:46:55.460 Oh,

03:46:55.920 hold on.

03:46:56.400 Bender the Offender

03:46:57.500 donated $99.

03:46:59.800 Eddie Hall is a strong man

03:47:01.540 who looks like he has

03:47:02.620 a dad bod of sorts,

03:47:04.220 but most of his weight

03:47:05.440 is pure muscle.

03:47:07.200 Yeah,

03:47:07.420 true.

03:47:07.780 I don't think most people

03:47:08.940 would consider him

03:47:09.600 like a beauty icon

03:47:10.940 for men though

03:47:11.500 or an icon

03:47:12.380 of handsome masculinity.

03:47:13.720 Here,

03:47:13.940 let's do this.

03:47:15.500 Scarlett Johansson,

03:47:16.640 she's in superhero,

03:47:18.100 what is she,

03:47:18.620 Black Widow?

03:47:19.420 Is that who she is?

03:47:20.180 Yeah,

03:47:20.460 yeah.

03:47:21.260 Nick,

03:47:21.740 can I have you

03:47:22.160 pull up a Google tab?

03:47:23.400 Search,

03:47:24.100 let's do Scarlett Johansson

03:47:25.660 don't get excited,

03:47:27.760 guys.

03:47:28.020 Scarlett Johansson,

03:47:28.840 bikini.

03:47:30.480 So we can actually

03:47:31.260 see her body.

03:47:33.200 Also,

03:47:33.700 the way she's presented

03:47:34.500 in that movie

03:47:35.200 is also edited

03:47:36.120 just like the men

03:47:36.860 are edited.

03:47:37.560 CGI and everything.

03:47:38.420 CGI,

03:47:39.000 yeah.

03:47:39.780 Let us know

03:47:40.480 when you have it.

03:47:41.060 Many movies wear makeup.

03:47:43.160 Yeah,

03:47:43.660 they do.

03:47:44.760 Yeah,

03:47:44.980 they have makeup trailers

03:47:46.100 just to make them

03:47:46.820 look better.

03:47:47.500 All right,

03:47:47.860 scroll down,

03:47:48.680 scroll down.

03:47:50.900 Wait,

03:47:51.380 wait,

03:47:51.500 wait,

03:47:51.740 hold on.

03:47:52.420 The far left top

03:47:54.220 in the blue bikini

03:47:55.640 top.

03:47:56.520 Yep.

03:47:58.720 That physique

03:47:59.540 is achievable

03:48:00.100 by like 90%

03:48:01.580 of women.

03:48:02.280 Okay,

03:48:02.620 so,

03:48:03.120 but you're talking

03:48:03.720 about her

03:48:04.280 as black widow.

03:48:05.560 Yeah.

03:48:05.860 And also,

03:48:06.340 I think that

03:48:07.160 working out

03:48:07.960 in the gym

03:48:08.460 is achievable

03:48:09.120 for men as well.

03:48:11.160 But I do see

03:48:12.100 what you're saying

03:48:12.660 that there is

03:48:13.100 an unrealistic

03:48:13.700 standard for both

03:48:14.820 men and women.

03:48:16.380 And I think

03:48:17.240 that we have

03:48:18.260 just created

03:48:20.200 this toxic,

03:48:21.760 toxic culture

03:48:22.860 where we're

03:48:23.460 constantly idolizing

03:48:24.640 these people

03:48:25.280 and holding

03:48:26.600 especially women,

03:48:27.980 but yes,

03:48:28.500 also men

03:48:29.180 to unrealistic

03:48:30.060 standards.

03:48:31.100 And it makes

03:48:32.740 it not only

03:48:33.440 harder for us

03:48:34.240 to be satisfied

03:48:35.060 in who we are,

03:48:36.020 but now we're

03:48:36.940 living in an era

03:48:38.400 because of social media

03:48:39.280 where we're constantly

03:48:40.160 comparing our partners

03:48:41.240 to what we see online.

03:48:42.260 And it's a fake

03:48:43.740 representation

03:48:44.280 of what is happening

03:48:46.580 in real life.

03:48:47.780 I mean,

03:48:48.060 obviously,

03:48:48.900 it's AI world.

03:48:49.800 I mean,

03:48:50.360 everyone's in AI

03:48:51.240 worlds with filters

03:48:52.800 and editing.

03:48:54.380 Okay.

03:48:55.060 Well,

03:48:55.460 let's,

03:48:55.740 I want to try

03:48:56.700 to finally make

03:48:57.280 my point on this.

03:48:58.060 So can you also

03:48:59.020 pull up,

03:48:59.820 who's the girl

03:49:01.580 with the whip?

03:49:02.360 Fuck,

03:49:02.580 what's her name?

03:49:04.680 Oh,

03:49:05.020 Gal Gadot.

03:49:05.620 Gal Gadot.

03:49:06.660 Let's look at her.

03:49:07.400 Then we'll look at,

03:49:08.380 who's the guy

03:49:08.720 from in Thor?

03:49:09.900 From what?

03:49:11.080 In Thor.

03:49:12.600 Chris Hemsworth.

03:49:13.380 Chris Hemsworth.

03:49:13.980 We'll look at him.

03:49:15.080 And then we can look

03:49:15.780 at Wolverine.

03:49:16.740 We can look at

03:49:17.520 who plays Captain America.

03:49:19.520 We can look at

03:49:19.960 all the superheroes.

03:49:20.980 We can see their

03:49:21.500 degree of physique.

03:49:23.020 Go ahead.

03:49:27.740 So just to like,

03:49:29.120 while we wait,

03:49:29.560 just to recap.

03:49:30.220 Your point is,

03:49:31.140 on a scale of

03:49:31.960 physical attraction,

03:49:33.480 it is harder for a man

03:49:34.340 to be a 10 out of 10

03:49:35.020 than a woman to be

03:49:35.620 a 10 out of 10.

03:49:36.920 That's like,

03:49:37.420 generally the point.

03:49:38.400 It's harder for a man

03:49:39.240 to achieve an ideal man's body.

03:49:40.700 I think it's harder

03:49:41.900 for men to achieve

03:49:44.620 the ideal male physique

03:49:46.780 than it is for women to,

03:49:48.220 no, no, no.

03:49:48.660 Let's not even say ideal.

03:49:50.060 Let's just say

03:49:50.560 attractive physique.

03:49:52.200 It's harder for men

03:49:53.120 to get an attractive physique

03:49:55.800 when it comes to body

03:49:56.640 than it is for women

03:49:57.700 to achieve an attractive physique.

03:50:00.280 And also,

03:50:00.760 I would say that

03:50:01.600 in addition to the body fat range

03:50:03.880 that I mentioned,

03:50:05.080 I think that there are,

03:50:06.420 there's much more

03:50:07.700 different body types

03:50:10.720 that men will find attractive

03:50:12.260 than women will find attractive.

03:50:14.920 You have everything

03:50:15.600 from like stick thin

03:50:17.160 to fit

03:50:17.820 all the way to like thick,

03:50:20.140 whatever,

03:50:20.540 you know,

03:50:20.780 all the,

03:50:21.120 there's like a much wider range

03:50:23.020 of different body types

03:50:23.920 that men will find attractive

03:50:25.080 versus what women

03:50:27.220 will find attractive.

03:50:27.820 Do we have a,

03:50:28.540 like,

03:50:28.720 thick is bad for men,

03:50:30.020 but thick is good for women.

03:50:31.460 Gal Gadot.

03:50:32.580 Okay,

03:50:32.880 pull up the one.

03:50:33.500 She's ripped.

03:50:34.540 Yeah.

03:50:35.440 This is not a good example.

03:50:37.420 She's totally ripped.

03:50:39.320 Pull up the one

03:50:40.220 Gal Gadot bikini mission.

03:50:42.160 Oh,

03:50:42.420 look at her as

03:50:43.400 Wonder Woman.

03:50:44.880 Pull up that video

03:50:45.700 if we want to talk about that.

03:50:47.000 Wasn't she in that?

03:50:47.780 That is actually

03:50:48.440 totally unachievable.

03:50:49.340 Wasn't she in that

03:50:50.100 Israeli soldier?

03:50:51.320 Hold on.

03:50:51.440 Yeah,

03:50:51.600 she was.

03:50:52.880 Well,

03:50:53.240 that is totally unrealistic.

03:50:55.940 Scroll down,

03:50:56.500 scroll down.

03:50:57.260 Well,

03:50:57.480 I mean,

03:50:57.680 not unrealistic,

03:50:58.280 but harder to achieve.

03:51:00.380 Then,

03:51:00.980 hold on.

03:51:01.660 Okay.

03:51:03.120 I'm trying to,

03:51:03.940 actually,

03:51:04.300 could you X out of that one?

03:51:06.640 Scroll back up to the top.

03:51:07.960 Okay,

03:51:08.260 the one with her in the hat,

03:51:10.220 scroll down,

03:51:11.760 scroll down,

03:51:12.400 scroll down.

03:51:13.600 There's the one in the hat

03:51:14.580 and then the one next to it.

03:51:18.080 Okay,

03:51:18.480 scroll down the other one,

03:51:19.620 actually.

03:51:21.420 No,

03:51:21.840 but,

03:51:22.060 no,

03:51:22.140 no,

03:51:22.260 no,

03:51:22.340 to the right,

03:51:22.900 to the right,

03:51:23.280 to the right.

03:51:24.580 So,

03:51:25.080 it's down,

03:51:25.960 now it's all the way to the left.

03:51:26.780 of them in everyday life?

03:51:27.940 It's the one that used to be next to it.

03:51:29.700 It's all the way to the left,

03:51:30.680 all the way to the left.

03:51:31.820 The one all the way to the left

03:51:33.020 from the cursor,

03:51:34.080 yeah.

03:51:35.180 Yeah.

03:51:37.500 This is like,

03:51:38.600 if,

03:51:38.920 She's extremely skinny.

03:51:40.820 Yes,

03:51:41.260 but like,

03:51:41.800 this is,

03:51:42.440 this is achievable.

03:51:44.240 For who?

03:51:44.980 That's not true.

03:51:45.800 I've never looked that skinny in my life.

03:51:47.440 It's actually really difficult for women to look like that.

03:51:49.120 If the argument is,

03:51:49.940 that it's easier for a woman to look like that

03:51:51.580 than it is for a man to look like Chris Hemsworth

03:51:53.260 when he's playing Thor,

03:51:54.500 that's absolutely true.

03:51:55.800 That's absolutely true.

03:51:56.260 Do you disagree with that?

03:51:57.340 I would like to see the statistics on it.

03:51:59.860 What statistics?

03:52:00.500 Okay.

03:52:01.060 Here,

03:52:01.400 let's just,

03:52:01.820 let's just use our eyes.

03:52:02.780 Hold on,

03:52:02.960 hold on.

03:52:03.160 For a man to look like Chris Hemsworth while playing Thor,

03:52:05.600 he's got to inject Tremblone.

03:52:07.020 Hold on.

03:52:07.300 Like,

03:52:07.860 let's just use our eyeballs.

03:52:09.140 Fuck the statistics.

03:52:10.980 That's a photo of Gal Gadot.

03:52:13.320 Is it easier for,

03:52:14.500 and Nick,

03:52:15.280 I need you to pull up a photo of Chris Hemsworth.

03:52:18.460 On the beach,

03:52:19.180 randomly.

03:52:19.500 Is it easier to look like that as a woman

03:52:23.780 than show us one of the pictures from the,

03:52:27.920 the one he,

03:52:28.740 one from the beach?

03:52:32.740 What's more achievable?

03:52:34.040 That is achievable.

03:52:35.440 These chicks are really good for this.

03:52:36.820 You think that's more achievable?

03:52:38.360 I've seen people at my gym perfectly achieving that.

03:52:42.100 I think it's harder.

03:52:42.980 In order,

03:52:43.700 in order,

03:52:44.280 hold on,

03:52:44.640 hold on,

03:52:44.840 hold on.

03:52:45.060 I mean,

03:52:45.520 definitely it's a commitment.

03:52:46.840 God,

03:52:47.040 bro.

03:52:47.400 But I'm never saying it.

03:52:49.020 You guys are hopeless.

03:52:50.180 You guys are hopeless.

03:52:50.980 You guys are fucking hopeless.

03:52:52.740 I think it's so weird how you like propose all these like topics as like,

03:52:57.520 it's harder for men or like harder for women.

03:53:00.800 Like,

03:53:00.920 I feel like it's good to talk about,

03:53:02.460 but like,

03:53:02.840 why does it have to be like harder for men or harder for women?

03:53:06.960 Yeah.

03:53:07.240 I'm just curious.

03:53:08.440 Your point is that,

03:53:09.700 but your point in talking,

03:53:11.280 correct me if I'm wrong.

03:53:12.520 Your point in bringing this up was that it's harder for men to achieve what's generally deemed as attractive for men.

03:53:21.040 In the eyes of women than it is for women to achieve it.

03:53:24.780 Like what does,

03:53:25.400 like what does saying either yes,

03:53:28.140 it's harder or no,

03:53:29.080 it's not harder.

03:53:29.860 Like do.

03:53:31.660 Like,

03:53:32.180 I think like talking about how it's hard for everybody is like,

03:53:36.420 like beauty standards and what everyone goes through is important to share.

03:53:41.040 So your question,

03:53:41.440 why does someone have to like win?

03:53:44.100 I'm just curious.

03:53:44.320 So your question is why we're having the conversation?

03:53:46.460 I mean,

03:53:46.660 look,

03:53:46.860 she,

03:53:46.980 no,

03:53:47.120 I'm asking like why it's posed that way.

03:53:49.860 I will say this.

03:53:50.960 Cause it is that way.

03:53:52.300 I will say on this point,

03:53:53.700 Brian is right.

03:53:54.340 Or it's just the style of your,

03:53:55.820 I don't,

03:53:56.180 I don't,

03:53:56.520 I don't think you need to look like Chris Hemsworth to be an attractive man.

03:53:59.040 I don't think you need to be that far.

03:54:00.060 And I don't think you need to be as thin as Gal Gadot to be an attractive woman.

03:54:02.980 I don't,

03:54:03.320 I don't think that's a,

03:54:04.640 that's like the absolute requisite for being attractive.

03:54:06.460 It's like,

03:54:07.060 I think that.

03:54:09.380 I think that they're both unrealistic extremes.

03:54:12.160 We can still have a productive conversation and talk about it without saying like women,

03:54:20.620 it's harder for men.

03:54:23.300 I mean,

03:54:23.940 there's this trope.

03:54:27.680 You mentioned the reason I'm having this conversation.

03:54:30.620 Is you brought up that there's this trope about,

03:54:33.920 Oh my God,

03:54:34.420 female beauty standards.

03:54:35.480 They're so unattainable.

03:54:36.480 It's so unfair.

03:54:37.500 Women have it so bad.

03:54:38.600 And I'm sitting here and saying,

03:54:40.080 actually,

03:54:40.860 if you look at the truth,

03:54:42.340 you look at male depictions in media,

03:54:44.800 compare them to female depictions in media.

03:54:47.400 We often talk about depictions in media.

03:54:49.480 It's so on.

03:54:50.320 Oh,

03:54:50.620 the,

03:54:50.960 these beauty standards are so unfair.

03:54:52.420 Look at the women in the magazines,

03:54:53.780 look at the fucking men in the magazines.

03:54:55.560 And I'm here to say that it's harder to achieve the male depictions.

03:55:00.040 of beauty than it is for women to achieve the female depictions of beauty.

03:55:04.440 It's hard for both.

03:55:05.800 However,

03:55:06.540 you cannot,

03:55:07.600 you're not going to get through to me that it's harder.

03:55:11.240 If you pull up the Gal Gadot photo,

03:55:13.540 that physique is harder to achieve than Chris Hemsworth.

03:55:18.460 But it's not just about their bodies.

03:55:20.200 It's also about their faces.

03:55:22.540 Women are held to an unrealistic standard in their face as well.

03:55:26.020 Well,

03:55:26.620 your face is going to be your face.

03:55:28.880 Why does someone have to be like them?

03:55:30.680 You're shifting,

03:55:31.280 you're shifting the goalposts.

03:55:32.300 We were having a conversation specifically about body.

03:55:35.320 We can have a conversation about face.

03:55:37.600 However,

03:55:37.920 it started on face and you changed it to body.

03:55:40.260 I feel like when we're talking,

03:55:41.540 none of us have ever been like,

03:55:42.640 it's harder for women.

03:55:43.800 Like it's just so black and white.

03:55:45.480 Okay.

03:55:45.680 So you're talking in such absolute struggle.

03:55:48.620 It's not an equal struggle.

03:55:50.760 Why?

03:55:51.440 Why do you believe?

03:55:52.300 I've literally just laid out my argument as a man,

03:55:55.440 as a woman.

03:55:56.080 I think neither of us can like truly understand.

03:55:58.700 Can you stop interrupting?

03:56:00.060 Can you stop interrupting?

03:56:00.960 Please let me finish.

03:56:01.800 Okay.

03:56:02.560 Repeat what I'll answer your,

03:56:04.260 what your statement was.

03:56:05.100 You said it was equal,

03:56:06.000 correct?

03:56:06.380 I thought we were saying that.

03:56:07.220 Okay.

03:56:07.920 So a woman to have an attractive body or even the ideal body need not really ever step foot in a gym.

03:56:18.220 A man to have an ideal body or an attractive body need step foot in a gym,

03:56:25.080 need years of strength training.

03:56:28.340 You don't need years.

03:56:29.300 That's just simply not true.

03:56:30.440 Sometimes being big is too much.

03:56:32.800 Some people are genetically shredded.

03:56:34.400 I'm not saying like bodybuilder status,

03:56:36.740 but like a woman to have a physically attractive body need not necessarily ever step foot into a gym.

03:56:43.960 However,

03:56:44.540 I don't think the,

03:56:45.440 I don't think the same thing can be said about men.

03:56:48.200 However,

03:56:48.720 let me,

03:56:49.120 let me remove the gym.

03:56:50.240 A woman need not strength train to have an attractive body.

03:56:54.520 A man needs to strength train.

03:56:56.760 That's true.

03:56:57.340 Not if you want like bigger,

03:56:59.040 bigger butt.

03:57:00.140 You have to work for that.

03:57:00.860 That's not what I'm saying.

03:57:01.480 I'm saying.

03:57:02.080 I can't wear a smaller waist.

03:57:03.120 I'm saying.

03:57:03.840 I know guys that look muscular without ever going to the gym.

03:57:07.180 Like some guys are just like that.

03:57:07.860 Really skinny guys.

03:57:08.640 Okay.

03:57:08.840 You could be an athlete,

03:57:10.120 but like,

03:57:11.620 okay,

03:57:12.440 this,

03:57:12.740 this is just not,

03:57:13.440 still,

03:57:13.740 still regardless,

03:57:14.760 strength training aside,

03:57:15.780 if you want to be an attractive man,

03:57:16.940 you're physically exerting yourself five or six days a week and monitoring your diet.

03:57:20.400 If you want to be an attractive woman,

03:57:22.060 you're eating at caloric maintenance and you're not just not,

03:57:24.560 you're just like,

03:57:25.040 don't be obese.

03:57:26.040 It's just so different for everyone.

03:57:27.280 I mean,

03:57:27.920 then there's like factors of like cellulite and like saggy skin that are also pointed out.

03:57:33.660 I think that women are under a stronger microscope.

03:57:36.060 We don't have to go on about this,

03:57:37.520 but I do want to assert that,

03:57:39.080 that it is women are under a harsher,

03:57:45.220 more unrealistic beauty standard than men.

03:57:49.020 Erroneous.

03:57:49.520 It's just,

03:57:49.940 it's just point blank wrong.

03:57:52.480 By what basis?

03:57:53.620 You're going off of arguing.

03:57:55.160 You're asking why I'm arguing about that.

03:57:56.840 It's because.

03:57:57.280 No,

03:57:57.420 I didn't say why you're arguing.

03:57:58.660 I didn't ask that.

03:57:59.280 Okay.

03:57:59.440 Well,

03:57:59.620 I think she was,

03:58:00.360 but that's why,

03:58:00.860 that's why what I'm arguing against.

03:58:03.320 And also I'm prepared.

03:58:05.120 I would say,

03:58:06.060 that,

03:58:07.480 and this is,

03:58:08.180 you mentioned statistics.

03:58:09.620 We can actually pull up some,

03:58:10.760 some data pulled from the dating apps.

03:58:14.720 Women are much harsher judges of physical appearance than men are.

03:58:18.780 Not in body though.

03:58:19.900 In face.

03:58:20.800 In everything.

03:58:22.560 Okay.

03:58:23.080 I want to see the statistics on it.

03:58:24.560 For example.

03:58:25.020 Okay.

03:58:25.120 No,

03:58:25.360 no,

03:58:25.560 no,

03:58:25.580 no,

03:58:25.660 no,

03:58:25.880 no,

03:58:25.900 no,

03:58:25.920 no,

03:58:25.940 no,

03:58:25.960 no,

03:58:25.980 no,

03:58:26.020 no,

03:58:26.080 no,

03:58:26.480 no,

03:58:26.500 no,

03:58:26.560 no,

03:58:26.580 no,

03:58:26.600 no,

03:58:26.620 no,

03:58:26.680 no,

03:58:27.080 no,

03:58:27.560 no,

03:58:27.600 no,

03:58:28.080 no,

03:58:28.580 no,

03:58:28.600 no,

03:58:28.680 no,

03:58:29.080 no,

03:58:29.620 no,

03:58:30.600 no,

03:58:30.680 no,

03:58:31.200 no,

03:58:31.700 So there are women have more factors that are outside of when it comes to caring about physical appearance.

03:58:37.640 Women have more things that they care about that are just out of men's control when it comes to their physical attractiveness.

03:58:45.540 Touch us.

03:58:46.740 Sure.

03:58:47.460 Okay.

03:58:48.120 Let's talk about men who are bald, men who are balding.

03:58:53.100 Women, men can't really control that.

03:58:56.340 Women, generally speaking, prefer men who have a full head of hair.

03:58:59.320 That's one.

03:59:01.100 So you're telling me you would be okay with a woman who was bald?

03:59:03.640 They can get hair trans.

03:59:04.760 Women.

03:59:05.380 I mean,

03:59:05.580 give me a break here.

03:59:06.220 That's not,

03:59:06.460 that's.

03:59:07.160 I think this is going around the merry-go-round,

03:59:09.180 but I do think that we can agree that there are unrealistic standards for both men and women and that it's fed by social media and yes,

03:59:15.500 dating apps and the mainstream media.

03:59:18.220 And it makes it harder for people to feel fulfilled in themselves and also to find partners and to feel fulfilled in their relationships.

03:59:25.660 Right, but I'm arguing with you because you said that women have it, have it harder.

03:59:29.440 And here, I'll lay out a couple of things.

03:59:31.500 So things that are outside of men's control that women care quite a bit about when it comes to physical appearance,

03:59:37.000 height, hair, penis size, sexual stamina, sexual function.

03:59:41.840 Now let's, let's ignore the last two.

03:59:44.440 Height, balding, penis size.

03:59:46.140 Women care about these things.

03:59:47.900 Men have absolutely zero control over those things.

03:59:51.700 Okay.

03:59:52.220 What's the list for women?

03:59:53.540 I wish I had a computer too.

03:59:55.160 Can you pull up the list for women that men look at?

03:59:58.340 That are out of, yeah, tell me, what are the things that are out of women's control?

04:00:03.360 Without plastic surgery?

04:00:04.840 The only thing I can think of.

04:00:05.740 Because guys can go and get a hair transplant.

04:00:06.880 The only thing I can think of is breast size.

04:00:08.440 Guys can get muscle implants too.

04:00:09.660 Your nose, your lips, steroids.

04:00:11.540 But that applies to both.

04:00:12.880 Let's talk gendered things here.

04:00:15.440 But are we looking at a man going, oh, his lips are small.

04:00:17.920 I don't like him.

04:00:18.540 And it's, oh, his nose is crooked out.

04:00:20.520 Yeah, it's also more promoted for women to get plastic surgery than for men.

04:00:25.340 Definitely.

04:00:25.940 Let's have a conversation about physiognomy.

04:00:28.000 Let's have like a 90 minute talk about physiognomy and the face of a man.

04:00:31.820 The shape of a, the brow, and your nose, and your cheekbones, and the way your chin protrudes.

04:00:37.320 Let's have a deep talk.

04:00:38.500 I don't think anyone's going to budge.

04:00:40.560 Physiognomy.

04:00:41.560 Physiognomy?

04:00:42.080 Is that like the face, like the way it's cut up?

04:00:46.020 Okay, let's not have a physiognomy.

04:00:47.920 I think we should wrap that topic.

04:00:48.860 No, can you just like, what is like, what can you define it?

04:00:50.680 I've just never heard that word before.

04:00:51.080 Yeah, so it's a, it's a pseudoscience alleging that you can look at someone's, the shape of

04:00:55.400 their face and determine sort of the merit of their character.

04:00:57.980 You can predict their behavioral patterns.

04:00:59.520 Okay, like people are more likely to trust people who they consider attractive.

04:01:02.980 Yeah, or you're, or like your face is a certain way, so maybe you're more aggressive

04:01:06.780 or something like that.

04:01:07.820 Yeah.

04:01:08.100 Okay, that's interesting.

04:01:09.140 You're trustworthy.

04:01:09.800 Yeah, I've like looked into things like that, so that's good to know a name for it.

04:01:14.380 Okay, look, what I was trying to get at is there are more things out of our control

04:01:19.240 as men that are pretty big deal breakers for women than the reverse.

04:01:23.640 Like I said, height, hair, so if you're balding, and penis size.

04:01:28.180 The only thing I can really think about that is specifically gendered towards women that

04:01:32.580 they really can't control, I would say, is breast size.

04:01:37.080 So you think that if a woman was bald, that she would have an equal chance of women with

04:01:41.920 hair?

04:01:42.820 What?

04:01:43.440 That's what you're saying.

04:01:44.180 Women don't bald anywhere near the same range as men.

04:01:46.860 I mean like alopecia.

04:01:48.000 But you're saying.

04:01:49.020 Oh my God.

04:01:50.280 Are you guys really arguing like balding?

04:01:51.860 You know what?

04:01:51.880 You can get exhausted over here, but you're saying that you said, so now I'm just using

04:01:56.840 from your logic.

04:01:57.880 I'm looking at this from your logic.

04:01:59.160 You said that only apply to men, right?

04:02:02.920 Only apply to men.

04:02:03.800 So you're now bringing in that women can't bald into your assumption, which is just not

04:02:08.120 true.

04:02:08.420 He's speaking in general.

04:02:09.040 Who's more likely to bald?

04:02:10.020 Women get extensions all the time?

04:02:10.720 Men or women?

04:02:11.480 Women get extensions all the time to make their hair fuller and more attractive.

04:02:15.400 So what do you, so, and men can get hair transplants.

04:02:18.240 Your logic is flawed.

04:02:19.340 Are we not operating in reality here because, I just don't think your logic is flawed.

04:02:24.760 My logic is not flawed.

04:02:25.940 Yeah, it is.

04:02:26.260 Okay, let me ask you, hold on, no, no, hold on.

04:02:27.940 Let me ask you a question.

04:02:28.720 Is it wrong to say that humans are born with 10 fingers?

04:02:35.120 Well, some are born with 11.

04:02:36.880 No, but, but is that a wrong, generally speaking, like, is that a wrong statement to make that

04:02:41.080 humans have 10 fingers?

04:02:42.240 Technically.

04:02:43.520 They should have 10 fingers.

04:02:45.060 Okay.

04:02:45.460 Is it the case that some people have genetic abnormalities and some people are born with

04:02:49.960 11 fingers?

04:02:50.820 See, I'll be into that.

04:02:51.400 It's not wrong to say, it's not wrong to say that humans are born with 10 fingers.

04:02:58.340 Because of men's biology, they're more likely to bald than women.

04:03:02.060 They're only bald donated $100.

04:03:04.040 Balding in women is substantially less common.

04:03:06.860 Thank you.

04:03:07.340 You can't use the minority to prove a point.

04:03:10.440 Do some women bald?

04:03:11.840 Do some women bald?

04:03:13.220 Yes, but it's like.

04:03:14.200 So if you can't use the minority to prove a point, then we do have to actually look at

04:03:18.220 the other facial features of women, like their lips and their nose.

04:03:21.880 Because what are the statistics?

04:03:23.140 If you can't use the minority.

04:03:24.740 Because you're saying that we can't look.

04:03:26.740 But both men and women have those features.

04:03:28.740 We're speaking about gendered, strictly gendered things.

04:03:32.880 And I'm saying that women don't like men who are balding.

04:03:37.540 And men don't like women who.

04:03:39.380 Who are also balding.

04:03:40.420 But that ignores the fact.

04:03:42.280 And other facial features, like if they have too big of a nose or too small of lips.

04:03:46.060 Women have those exact same assessments of men's faces.

04:03:50.340 It just gets so hostile and so repetitive, you know?

04:03:53.740 Because it's such a bad faith argument to say women bald too at the same rate as men.

04:04:00.120 I'm not arguing that it's at the same rate as men.

04:04:01.580 You literally brought up women balding.

04:04:03.340 I'm saying that it happens sometimes also.

04:04:05.600 Like it's like you're trying to say that men have, are held to a higher standard than

04:04:10.220 women in their physical appearance.

04:04:11.480 And that's just not true.

04:04:12.480 If, I don't know what the percentage breakdown of, of if, like at what age men start losing

04:04:18.500 their hair.

04:04:18.640 Why is it so hard just to like agree on that it's like difficult for everybody?

04:04:24.620 I think we did agree on that.

04:04:25.960 We can talk about other things.

04:04:27.020 But it's definitely not harder for men.

04:04:28.880 Other things in dating, you know?

04:04:29.720 We can talk about other things.

04:04:30.200 Bro, it's just so bad faith when you ask me for example.

04:04:33.700 I think it's bad faith to not bring in statistics that prove that men are under a more magnified

04:04:42.200 scope than women when it comes to their facial features and physical appearance.

04:04:46.600 That's just not true.

04:04:47.340 Okay.

04:04:47.540 We can, we can actually pull up some infographics.

04:04:49.340 So we have some infographics here.

04:04:51.660 Nick, if you're able to go find them, um, we can pull up the, uh, bumble height one.

04:04:59.060 We can pull up, let's see.

04:05:01.400 Um, hold on.

04:05:03.700 They're in the Dropbox podcast infographics folder.

04:05:06.660 But these are just people seeing each other on a dating app too.

04:05:09.700 It's not like.

04:05:10.280 Most people meet on dating apps nowadays.

04:05:12.640 But is it meeting in person or is it when someone looks at a picture of someone on a

04:05:15.680 screen?

04:05:16.880 We can, we can.

04:05:17.880 I'm just asking because you said the statistics are from Bumble.

04:05:21.480 One of these infographics is from Bumble.

04:05:24.640 Okay.

04:05:25.580 So is it in person like statistic or is it when someone looks at someone on a screen?

04:05:30.200 I'm just asking.

04:05:30.420 You can, you can try to throw away all the data we have.

04:05:33.700 From dating apps, but the reality.

04:05:34.940 I'm not trying to throw it away.

04:05:35.600 I was just asking.

04:05:36.160 Yo, can you stop interrupting?

04:05:37.960 You can try to throw it away.

04:05:39.720 However, the reality is most people do actually meet online on dating apps.

04:05:44.980 Oh no.

04:05:45.580 Okay.

04:05:45.860 I'm just asking, is this info like gathered from people meeting in person or is it gathered

04:05:51.600 from someone like not meeting someone and just looking at them on a screen?

04:05:55.200 The, the, the data I'm about to present comes from dating apps.

04:06:02.140 Okay.

04:06:02.740 Okay.

04:06:03.160 You know, maybe the screen is even more important because people uploading photos to a dating

04:06:06.480 app, they're uploading presumably their best photos.

04:06:08.980 Right.

04:06:09.200 So this is them in their best angle versus real life.

04:06:11.480 You know, it's not, not quite so favorable.

04:06:13.480 All right.

04:06:13.960 So here's a Nick.

04:06:15.840 Here's the ones I need you to pull up.

04:06:17.220 There's the bumble height one.

04:06:18.480 Are you in?

04:06:19.280 Okay.

04:06:19.660 And then if you scroll down a bit, there's OKC new chart.

04:06:22.940 There's OKC, OKC one, OKC two, OKC message, MSG.

04:06:29.780 Drag those all over.

04:06:30.840 Let me know when you have it.

04:06:31.640 I'm getting delirious.

04:06:45.120 Bro, we should just go to Molten Core.

04:06:46.880 We've got to get out of here and just go kill Lucifron, dude.

04:06:50.700 Let's go get a binding of the, of the, of the, of the Thunderfiori.

04:06:53.260 The other thing is that women aren't just held to this standard by men.

04:06:55.400 It's by other women because we're comparing ourselves to other women and what we see online.

04:06:59.680 So it's not just from men.

04:07:02.420 Do you have it, Nick?

04:07:04.040 I got four of them, let's say.

04:07:06.760 Okay.

04:07:08.140 We'll start with the bumble height one, and then we'll just move through them as quick as we can.

04:07:13.380 And the last one is OKC, MSG.

04:07:15.860 Yeah, so you should have pulled up OKC new chart, OKC, OKC one, OKC two, OKC MSG, and bumble height prep.

04:07:22.580 I think I got them all.

04:07:23.580 We'll start at bumble.

04:07:24.320 Yep, perfect.

04:07:26.060 Okay.

04:07:28.040 Sweet.

04:07:28.400 You need to control mouse wheel up a little bit so we can see this.

04:07:32.400 OK, so this is specifically with height.

04:07:35.020 So bumble filters set in advanced filters by female users by height.

04:07:40.640 Scroll a little, a little higher, more.

04:07:43.240 Make it bigger.

04:07:44.320 Make it a little bigger.

04:07:46.360 So these are filters that are set in advanced by female users.

04:07:51.580 So they're saying, I only want to match with men this tall or higher.

04:07:55.600 So it starts getting, you know, 5'10", 5'11", 6 feet, more, more, more, more, more.

04:08:00.260 So this demonstrates that, you know, women do care quite a bit about height.

04:08:04.280 It's somehow peaked at 6'3", 6'4", 6'5".

04:08:08.460 That's not the super important one.

04:08:10.320 Let's look at the next one.

04:08:11.380 Well, keep in mind earlier, we learned that if you're over 6'3", you're in the top 1% of men's height.

04:08:16.400 Right?

04:08:17.220 Mm-hmm.

04:08:18.440 Scroll up on that one.

04:08:19.540 Perception of male attractiveness versus female attractiveness, men as rated by women versus women as rated by men.

04:08:29.560 So men rate women on a pretty even distribution bell curve, whereas women are much harsher judges of physical appearance.

04:08:37.980 This is from OkCupid.

04:08:40.480 Next one, please.

04:08:43.020 And I think these other ones, make sure you mouse wheel up.

04:08:46.620 Okay, this is how, one down, please.

04:08:49.260 Scroll one down.

04:08:52.040 How men rate women.

04:08:54.320 So this is kind of echoing the last stat that we looked at.

04:08:58.660 So, and this was published direct from OkCupid.

04:09:04.000 So men rate women, you know, there's a pretty even distribution there, whereas women are very, very harsh judges of men.

04:09:13.260 They put, what is that?

04:09:15.860 Zero percent of men are considered most attractive.

04:09:18.500 Yes.

04:09:19.120 And so this is pulled, this was released from OkCupid.

04:09:23.340 Next one.

04:09:25.160 Oh, and this just shows both of them.

04:09:26.820 Yeah, that's fine.

04:09:29.460 You can do next one.

04:09:33.640 Next.

04:09:34.460 Yeah, you can scroll up.

04:09:36.060 And I think there was one more.

04:09:37.940 Actually, I don't know if that one's super important.

04:09:41.600 The reality is, is that women are swiping no on the vast majority of men on dating apps, especially if you look at Tinder, where it's like based off of purely physical appearance.

04:09:54.760 So, I mean, that would suggest to me that women are judging men much more harshly than men are judging women when it comes to physical appearance.

04:10:02.580 Okay, maybe that's true in dating, but I don't think that it is the overarching truth for media in general and the unrealistic standard that women are held to by, again, not just by men, but by each other and by the mainstream media and social media.

04:10:23.240 Hence, why women use more filters than men, why women get plastic surgery, why the magazines are retouching our photos to look like completely different people.

04:10:32.660 Let me ask a question.

04:10:34.600 Considering how harshly women judge men, is it possible that women are engaging in those behaviors because they're also harshly judging themselves?

04:10:42.780 And each other.

04:10:43.460 I feel like it's kind of human nature to feel like if you're subjected to something, then you're going to kind of return that energy with your outlook unless you're like actively working on that or like checking yourself for that.

04:11:01.240 I mean, okay, we're going to move on from this topic because we've kind of been beating a dead horse here.

04:11:07.340 I mean, again, I would just argue if you look, if you compare, for example, the leading men versus the leading women in movies, et cetera, the leading women are not on PEDs.

04:11:19.560 They're not taking steroids.

04:11:20.940 They're not taking growth hormone.

04:11:22.220 They're not taking drugs to enhance like.

04:11:24.540 They're just paying thousands of dollars of plastic surgery.

04:11:27.320 Most, I'm pretty sure.

04:11:28.600 Actually, I'd say most of the leading women do not have fake tits.

04:11:31.680 They don't have lipo.

04:11:32.520 They don't have BBLs.

04:11:33.520 That's not.

04:11:34.440 I mean, there's a lot of other procedures that they can.

04:11:37.340 They don't get that aren't those.

04:11:39.900 Perhaps, but at the end of the day, if we're speaking about physique.

04:11:44.880 I'm prepared to move on from this topic.

04:11:46.300 If we're speaking about physique.

04:11:47.480 Have we been beating around the bush with this topic?

04:11:50.080 I'm just saying women are not taking PEDs when it comes to like their bodies.

04:11:54.780 Like it's much more achievable for women to get the leading woman body than it is for the man to get the leading man body.

04:12:00.760 And in any case, we are going to.

04:12:03.380 I guess it's just easier for women then.

04:12:04.500 Yes, I agree with you.

04:12:08.800 Okay, we're going to do some super chats here.

04:12:11.740 We have Marcus Enceladus.

04:12:15.260 Oh, my God.

04:12:15.720 Yes, no.

04:12:16.880 Over-reliance on studies are unavoidably error prone.

04:12:20.640 Many discoveries overturned.

04:12:22.340 Settled incontrovertible truth.

04:12:25.260 Success of naturally evolved instinct greater than studies.

04:12:29.380 Reject what has enabled our survival because we wish it were different?

04:12:32.940 Question mark.

04:12:34.020 Very good point.

04:12:35.440 Have you heard about the replicability crisis?

04:12:38.360 And some of the problems with the peer review process?

04:12:39.520 It's very hard to replicate studies.

04:12:41.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:12:43.180 All right.

04:12:43.640 We have Salk79 here.

04:12:46.680 Religion girl.

04:12:48.280 Do you think sex without the purpose of reproduction is allowed in marriage?

04:12:51.340 And if so, why?

04:12:54.660 Obviously.

04:12:55.760 But without the purpose of reproduction?

04:12:58.900 Well, I think that when you're a married couple, you should be open to the possibility of life.

04:13:09.100 I don't think that that always is the case that 10 out of 10 times you're going to conceive.

04:13:15.220 So obviously, it's to love one another and to get pleasure from it.

04:13:19.860 I mean, it's not just about having kids, but you should be obviously open to the possibility of life, which means no birth control or contraceptives.

04:13:29.660 We have Adam Barnett here.

04:13:31.640 Hey, thank you, ma'am.

04:13:32.540 Awesome to see you.

04:13:33.300 We're having people from here in PA and other East Coast states on the podcast.

04:13:37.420 Good panel tonight.

04:13:38.060 Blue hair is still a little stoned, but everyone is respectful in their disagreements.

04:13:42.740 Panels, thoughts on long distance dating, good or bad.

04:13:47.560 Yeah, we can go around really quick.

04:13:49.860 Long distance, good or bad?

04:13:54.660 I feel like it can be good if you take the good things in it.

04:13:59.960 I mean, it just depends on the person.

04:14:02.600 For me, my experience, it's been good.

04:14:05.180 And you get the chance to see another place.

04:14:08.360 I feel like it's long distance relationships.

04:14:10.800 It was nice for me to go travel and see where they were living.

04:14:17.220 I agree.

04:14:17.880 You could go either way depending on the person.

04:14:20.860 Yeah, good or bad depending on what you're willing to put in for the relationship.

04:14:27.380 I also agree that it depends on the couple and what they're looking for.

04:14:31.880 It depends on the couple, but honestly, my physical love language is being around you, spending

04:14:38.200 time with you.

04:14:39.160 It's kind of hard to do that when all you get to see you is from a phone screen most of the

04:14:42.980 time.

04:14:43.400 I feel like they can only last so long.

04:14:45.620 Yeah, you can only do so much with it and you get, it just kind of gets super hard, especially

04:14:50.640 if you don't have the money to travel, especially if they live super far, maybe even a different

04:14:54.360 country, you know.

04:14:55.660 It just, it gets kind of tiring.

04:14:57.340 I feel like, yeah, they're not sustainable long term.

04:15:00.000 I don't really have an opinion on it, to be honest.

04:15:04.220 I think it's, some couples can make it work, some others can't.

04:15:08.640 I don't think I have an opinion of whether it's good or bad.

04:15:13.000 Madison.

04:15:13.720 Bad.

04:15:14.120 Well, I just think like when you're so, when you're so far apart from like your significant

04:15:22.440 other, all you're thinking about is wanting to be with them, but I see how it could work

04:15:26.600 for people who are very strong minded and very much in love because you can see all like

04:15:31.800 the good within it, but I just see all the bad.

04:15:34.960 I would never agree that long distance marriage is good.

04:15:38.880 I think if you're like in the precursor and you're still dating, then maybe I don't have

04:15:43.120 an opinion necessarily on that way, but I don't think you should be in a long distance

04:15:46.300 marriage.

04:15:46.840 I don't, I don't think that works or is good.

04:15:48.700 We have the real Mr. Meatball here.

04:15:53.260 Would you all date a bald guy?

04:15:54.940 So we're going to go around the table on that, by the way, Madison, I don't know if you have

04:15:57.400 to get out of here, feel free.

04:15:58.880 Are you sure?

04:15:59.680 Yeah, it's your call.

04:16:00.860 I know you said you had it.

04:16:01.720 I'll leave it like in like five minutes.

04:16:03.420 Okay.

04:16:04.300 Would you all date a bald guy?

04:16:08.700 Yeah, I would.

04:16:09.780 And also if you're bald, like you can get tattoos on your head and like, I think that

04:16:13.980 would look nice also.

04:16:17.060 Why do you look at me?

04:16:18.340 Why are you looking at me, dude?

04:16:20.360 You just, you were gesturing.

04:16:22.500 You were gesturing.

04:16:23.280 No, I'm just, I'm just sitting here.

04:16:25.800 And I'm not going to get head tattoos either.

04:16:27.620 That's ridiculous.

04:16:28.400 That's stupid.

04:16:30.180 What about you?

04:16:30.940 What about you?

04:16:31.420 Yeah.

04:16:32.940 You date a bald guy?

04:16:34.240 Um, yeah.

04:16:34.780 Fuck.

04:16:35.200 I should have asked this shit.

04:16:36.140 I should have asked this shit before we were arguing about, about this.

04:16:39.080 Cause I feel like it's going to shift your, your, uh, answers, but go ahead.

04:16:43.380 Um, probably not if he was already bald.

04:16:45.960 Um, but if it was like my boyfriend or husband and he went bald, like that's okay.

04:16:51.040 Obviously I'm not going to leave him because of that.

04:16:53.380 Um, I like the head tattoo idea though.

04:16:55.860 Right?

04:16:56.360 Yeah.

04:16:57.080 Yeah.

04:16:57.280 Ask my boyfriend went bald.

04:16:59.180 I'm still sticking by him.

04:17:01.560 Okay.

04:17:02.020 Y'all have to say Mr. Clean.

04:17:03.540 That man is fine.

04:17:05.000 I would date a bald dude.

04:17:06.860 Right.

04:17:07.280 Vin Diesel, right?

04:17:08.900 Vin Diesel, the rock.

04:17:10.360 Come on y'all.

04:17:10.660 Vin Diesel.

04:17:11.480 Bald man.

04:17:12.800 Wait, I want you guys to look at the screen.

04:17:15.280 Um, I want you guys to give a kiss too.

04:17:17.820 Only Andrew Tay I would date.

04:17:19.520 No.

04:17:20.020 But I'll smoke a cigar.

04:17:21.620 What the fuck?

04:17:24.360 No.

04:17:24.960 Here, hold on.

04:17:25.680 I got this.

04:17:26.100 Give him a little pad or something if you want.

04:17:29.400 What about you?

04:17:32.740 Would you date a bald guy?

04:17:34.780 Um, yeah.

04:17:35.620 I think I would.

04:17:37.380 Madison?

04:17:38.540 I just said only Andrew Tate.

04:17:40.620 Only Andrew Tate.

04:17:41.360 Some guys pull it off.

04:17:42.620 I would date Frankie if you went bald still.

04:17:44.340 I don't think that all guys can pull it off, but I think some do.

04:17:48.000 For some it works for them.

04:17:49.360 All right.

04:17:49.560 We have Cloud Force Show here.

04:17:50.880 Hey, thank you, man.

04:17:51.340 Appreciate it.

04:17:51.840 If a man wants to enjoy the company of a woman for a few hours,

04:17:54.760 he can go to a brothel and pay.

04:17:56.420 If a man wants to enjoy the company of a woman for his whole life,

04:17:58.960 he can go to a church and pay marriage.

04:18:01.860 The church sells what the brothel rents.

04:18:05.360 Okay.

04:18:05.940 I've never heard that one, but that's an interesting take.

04:18:08.460 Thank you, Cloud Force Show, for the very generous donation there.

04:18:11.820 Uh, the real Mr. Meatball says, body fat is food.

04:18:16.520 Muscle is working out.

04:18:17.580 It doesn't take anything more than discipline to have a good physique.

04:18:20.380 Scar Jo was not in that crazy of shape.

04:18:23.620 I will say, I did.

04:18:25.620 Go ahead.

04:18:26.080 Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

04:18:26.680 Go ahead.

04:18:26.800 I saw a comment that was like, oh, why should I listen to these girls?

04:18:30.320 I bet none of them have touched a gym for years,

04:18:32.960 but I think some of us are physically active.

04:18:36.220 It's just like not going to the gym or, I don't know, lifting super heavy weights.

04:18:42.240 So it might look like, I feel like fitness looks so different

04:18:45.000 in terms of what fitness you're doing and your body type and genetics and stuff.

04:18:49.120 So, yeah.

04:18:50.820 Word.

04:18:51.600 Word.

04:18:52.180 Okay.

04:18:52.500 We have Bugomus.

04:18:54.220 Bug, Bug, Bugomus.

04:18:56.420 Brian, looking at the ideals is unproductive in this conversation here.

04:18:59.680 The average woman who eats an average amount of food with no exercise

04:19:03.140 looks completely fine.

04:19:04.460 The average man who eats an average amount of food with no exercise

04:19:08.620 becomes skinny fat.

04:19:11.380 Yeah.

04:19:12.440 I mean, I think I mentioned that like a woman who has never stepped foot in the gym,

04:19:18.620 like average female body, like a lot of guys are going to be like,

04:19:21.440 she's got a nice body.

04:19:24.420 Whereas like a dude who doesn't train at all.

04:19:28.200 For example, I think the skinny body type is more men are going to find

04:19:33.020 the skinny body type attractive than women are going to find

04:19:35.800 the skinny body type attractive in men.

04:19:38.580 In any case, we went around, we beat that horse to death.

04:19:41.900 But Bugomus, thank you very much for the TTS there.

04:19:45.760 And we have Joshua Mills.

04:19:50.240 Hey, thank you.

04:19:50.680 Would you ladies date a third grade teacher?

04:19:52.460 Do you consider that a respectful job?

04:19:54.480 Just really quick.

04:19:55.780 Yes or maybe show of hands.

04:19:57.580 If you're good with the kids.

04:19:59.020 Third grade.

04:19:59.420 Would you date a third grade teacher?

04:20:01.380 Yeah.

04:20:03.880 Okay.

04:20:05.060 We have Jay Dock here.

04:20:06.780 Thank you, man.

04:20:07.120 I've been to war, jumped out of planes, took care of my GMA grandma

04:20:10.280 in her last year, through, hiked the AT, Appalachian Trail, I believe.

04:20:15.340 Bald and not good looking.

04:20:16.940 I have had one girlfriend, not a single one of you would give me

04:20:19.580 the time of day.

04:20:20.440 Oh, shit.

04:20:20.880 Okay.

04:20:21.600 Personality argument is for good looking people.

04:20:26.680 Well, just listen, Jay Dock, you need to stop being ugly.

04:20:30.080 You need to seem to look better.

04:20:32.120 Come on.

04:20:33.060 Really.

04:20:33.700 And also, all of those things don't mean that I'd want to date you.

04:20:36.760 Yeah.

04:20:37.760 Because, like, how old are you?

04:20:38.940 I feel like you're just selling yourself short by already saying that

04:20:42.600 none of us would give you the time of day.

04:20:44.880 Yeah.

04:20:45.140 What if that's, you're supposed to sell yourself, and that's not.

04:20:47.560 Be confident.

04:20:48.400 Hype yourself up, dude.

04:20:49.380 Yeah.

04:20:49.940 Yeah.

04:20:50.300 Don't put that in there, you know.

04:20:51.660 Yeah.

04:20:52.020 We love confidence.

04:20:52.840 Don't sabotage yourself, you know.

04:20:55.860 Step one.

04:20:56.740 I'm outro.

04:20:57.540 I love you guys.

04:20:58.680 Have a good night.

04:20:59.840 See you, Madison.

04:21:00.700 Bye.

04:21:01.140 Bye.

04:21:01.420 Bye.

04:21:01.500 Bye.

04:21:02.440 Bye.

04:21:03.360 Yeah, take care.

04:21:05.160 Step one, be attractive.

04:21:07.680 Step two, don't be unattractive, I think, is what everybody was getting at.

04:21:12.080 I will say, I think most people, like, just by nature of not being fat or obese,

04:21:16.900 you're already, like, a five out of ten.

04:21:19.380 And then if you build muscle, it goes up from there.

04:21:22.040 We have Kate Robinson.

04:21:23.180 Yo, man.

04:21:23.600 Have testosterone.

04:21:25.000 Holy shit.

04:21:25.660 Holy fuck, bruv.

04:21:27.820 Brandon has donated $1,000.

04:21:30.160 Gotta say, this has been a great pod.

04:21:32.840 Even though I did suffer that stroke from blue hair, girl, everyone has had interesting

04:21:37.480 opinions.

04:21:38.820 Holy fuck, bruv.

04:21:39.180 Much love from Sacramento.

04:21:40.960 Keep up the good work, Brian.

04:21:42.580 Oh, fuck.

04:21:42.820 Didn't mean to send the asteroid there, bro.

04:21:44.420 Dude.

04:21:45.280 Wait, you're from Sacramento?

04:21:47.540 Bro.

04:21:48.700 What part of Sacramento?

04:21:49.560 Oh, are you asking because he's got that co-op?

04:21:54.720 Well, he said my stuff from Sacramento.

04:21:57.120 What do you do?

04:21:57.840 Are you a little...

04:21:59.560 Maybe he's a homie.

04:22:01.620 I don't know.

04:22:03.080 He's bonding.

04:22:04.640 Okay, her DMs are open, I guess.

04:22:06.320 Well, okay.

04:22:06.940 She saw you drop...

04:22:08.060 Well, I live down here now, so...

04:22:09.540 A hundred K on a...

04:22:10.620 Or, excuse me, a thousand...

04:22:12.380 Bro.

04:22:12.800 That is the biggest...

04:22:16.660 That is the biggest...

04:22:18.560 TTS, I think we've ever fucking had, man.

04:22:22.660 Thank you so much.

04:22:23.580 That's insane, dude.

04:22:25.180 Brandon, you're a fucking giga-chad fucking legend.

04:22:29.720 Hold on, I got something for you.

04:22:32.180 I'm a fucking legend.

04:22:33.760 That's you, dude.

04:22:34.780 Thank you, man.

04:22:36.120 By the way, that does...

04:22:37.420 I don't know if you wanted to...

04:22:39.960 You technically hit the...

04:22:42.760 You could technically mute a microphone for ten minutes

04:22:45.440 if you wanted to.

04:22:47.640 And we could also...

04:22:49.140 Technically, Instagram of you, too.

04:22:52.060 If you want, let me know.

04:22:54.060 Okay.

04:22:54.920 Thank you so much, man.

04:22:55.940 That's overwhelming.

04:22:58.320 Thank you for patronage.

04:22:59.480 I think I had this one pulled up.

04:23:02.440 Men have testosterone.

04:23:03.420 It makes men have a way easier time losing weight,

04:23:05.180 so I think men have an easier time losing and keeping off fat.

04:23:08.320 Brian is still right.

04:23:10.020 Okay.

04:23:10.320 Thank you, Kate, for the cosign.

04:23:12.320 Sandeep, Pant...

04:23:14.700 Oh, wait.

04:23:15.060 Okay.

04:23:15.220 That's just...

04:23:16.040 Nick, pull those up if you haven't.

04:23:18.940 Oh, I didn't know I started about that.

04:23:20.720 Oh, you already pulled these up?

04:23:21.900 Yeah.

04:23:22.160 Okay.

04:23:22.600 Cool, cool, cool.

04:23:23.080 We're good.

04:23:23.420 We're good.

04:23:24.180 All right.

04:23:24.700 Sweet.

04:23:25.800 Let's see what...

04:23:27.700 We're definitely going to skip over the Jonah Hill stuff

04:23:29.520 just because, I mean, we don't...

04:23:30.680 We're not going to have time for that.

04:23:31.880 What we are going to do, though...

04:23:33.080 Oh, should we have done this?

04:23:34.040 Is Maddie still here, or did she dip?

04:23:35.800 Is she in the bathroom?

04:23:38.780 Maddie?

04:23:40.120 I think she dipped.

04:23:41.580 Okay.

04:23:42.400 We are going to react to...

04:23:45.600 There's a couple gentlemen who I'm acquainted with

04:23:48.420 who I'm trying to, you know, be a wingman,

04:23:54.320 set these guys up with perhaps one of the lovely ladies

04:23:57.880 here on the panel.

04:23:58.800 So we're going to go through a couple guys,

04:24:00.440 and you're going to tell me, would you date them,

04:24:02.360 or would you not, smash or pass, whatever you want to...

04:24:05.260 You know, however you want to view it.

04:24:07.820 So pay close attention.

04:24:09.900 We're going to pull up their Instagrams.

04:24:11.360 Just one thing, Nick.

04:24:12.440 Just make sure that you've scrolled down a little bit

04:24:14.380 so we just don't see, like, the username,

04:24:16.880 and you know what to do.

04:24:18.340 So if you can, Nick, pull up the first one.

04:24:23.880 Just whichever one's the first one.

04:24:25.320 There should be a string of, like, Instagrams.

04:24:27.120 Yeah, yeah.

04:24:33.840 Okay, so...

04:24:35.120 So here we have Zach.

04:24:40.520 He's got great flow.

04:24:42.680 Let's scroll down.

04:24:43.520 And he has an axe or something.

04:24:45.100 I don't know where he got that from.

04:24:46.940 So this is Zach.

04:24:48.160 He's a very good guy.

04:24:53.080 I've known him.

04:24:53.860 He gets a lot of likes on his pictures.

04:24:56.020 Oh, yeah.

04:24:56.320 Maybe don't do that.

04:24:57.720 You know, scroll down.

04:25:00.900 Keep scrolling, you know?

04:25:02.800 And that's him, I guess, with a bald head.

04:25:07.600 And keep scrolling.

04:25:09.360 That's him.

04:25:09.920 He really likes axes.

04:25:11.640 And he's a wonderful man.

04:25:13.200 Very kind.

04:25:14.560 Very, very cool guy.

04:25:15.960 He looks fun.

04:25:20.320 So let's just do show of hands.

04:25:26.160 How about...

04:25:26.520 No, no, no.

04:25:26.760 We'll go around the table.

04:25:27.960 Smash or pass?

04:25:28.880 Would you date him?

04:25:29.980 However you want to take it.

04:25:30.860 Um, even though I love his axes, I would say pass.

04:25:36.440 Okay.

04:25:36.860 What about you?

04:25:37.480 Pass.

04:25:39.320 Um, pass.

04:25:41.920 Pass.

04:25:42.580 Can I elaborate on one?

04:25:44.320 Huh?

04:25:44.720 Can I elaborate on one?

04:25:45.760 Sure.

04:25:46.320 Okay.

04:25:46.660 The bald head photo was bomb.

04:25:49.000 I'm not going to lie.

04:25:49.480 Oh, shit.

04:25:50.240 The bald head photo went off.

04:25:51.740 Let's go.

04:25:52.360 But I would have to pass.

04:25:53.520 He just looks too old for me.

04:25:54.940 Like, obviously, that's a different age range.

04:25:57.660 You're 18, correct?

04:25:59.360 Yes.

04:25:59.680 What's, like, the oldest you'd date?

04:26:01.720 Probably max, at this point, like, 23.

04:26:06.560 25, pushing it.

04:26:08.780 But that's just a different situation than what I'm in right now.

04:26:16.180 Okay.

04:26:16.960 Um, I'm sorry, Zach.

04:26:18.540 Uh, okay, so the bald head good, but maybe he's a bit too old.

04:26:21.700 How old, do you know how old, uh, Zach is?

04:26:24.540 I think he's 31, or 32.

04:26:26.380 What is that?

04:26:26.600 Yeah.

04:26:26.860 Well, that's about 13 year difference.

04:26:28.640 Yeah.

04:26:28.820 So, like, he was in middle school when I was born.

04:26:33.360 Okay.

04:26:33.920 Um, what about you, assuming, you know, assuming you were single?

04:26:38.300 Let's, let's, for all of these, let's assume you were single or whatever.

04:26:41.300 What about you?

04:26:41.600 I was going to say I only have eyes for my partner.

04:26:44.660 Let's say you were single.

04:26:47.040 Um, I prefer not to answer.

04:26:49.100 Okay, fair enough.

04:26:49.520 Do I have to play this game?

04:26:50.340 Yeah, well, you can opt out if you want.

04:26:51.860 Okay, I'm going to opt out.

04:26:52.940 All right, fair enough.

04:26:54.400 Um, if you can pull it back up.

04:26:57.560 Would you date him?

04:26:59.400 Yeah.

04:27:00.540 Yeah, why not?

04:27:01.600 There you go.

04:27:02.140 Why not?

04:27:02.960 Scroll, scroll to the top, please.

04:27:05.520 Okay.

04:27:06.320 Wait, can we see the bald head photo again?

04:27:08.400 Wait, what?

04:27:09.020 Uh, so this is Zach, otherwise known as Asmongold.

04:27:12.920 He's a GigaChad World of Warcraft player.

04:27:17.300 He's super successful, very popular Twitch streamer.

04:27:21.660 One of the most popular streamers on the platform.

04:27:25.000 Uh, probably makes millions, millions of dollars a month.

04:27:28.940 Very wealthy, successful.

04:27:31.740 Um, owner of OTK Network, Star Forge PCs.

04:27:35.160 And, uh, one of the most popular Twitch streamers.

04:27:41.380 So, like, internet famous, clouded up.

04:27:44.000 One of the goats.

04:27:45.260 One of the legends.

04:27:46.200 One of the legends.

04:27:47.760 And he's just, like, a fucking pumper.

04:27:50.040 Like, he's, when it comes to, like, DPS.

04:27:52.640 He's a gamer.

04:27:53.320 His DPS is, like, pretty good.

04:27:55.220 Holy shit.

04:27:56.520 Oh, bro, this guy's crazy, bro.

04:27:58.340 Oh, my God, he's on fire.

04:28:00.600 Him from Rancho, Cordova.

04:28:02.820 And he'll be out by Yarn soon for school.

04:28:05.160 Much love.

04:28:06.220 Hit me up.

04:28:07.300 You can rate me, but my Insta was banned, so I don't really have any pics.

04:28:12.380 Bro, who is, is this the same, wait, hold on.

04:28:15.060 Let me see if, is this the same Brandon that I'm messaging with on Instagram?

04:28:18.540 Hold on.

04:28:19.340 Because I don't know if I've got, like, different, is this, hold on.

04:28:22.780 Let me, that, that you, bro?

04:28:26.180 Okay.

04:28:26.840 Um, dude, thank you so much, man.

04:28:28.840 Uh, so is he, does he live next to me or what is that?

04:28:33.240 Oh, well, that's, like, probably, like, 25 minutes from where my hometown is, because

04:28:36.380 I'm, like, the other side.

04:28:37.760 Okay.

04:28:38.280 But, like, it's coming down.

04:28:41.740 You mean?

04:28:43.160 Well, I mean, you saw the cash.

04:28:45.200 No, the cash isn't the only thing.

04:28:46.860 But, like, how old are you is my real question.

04:28:49.140 She wants to, she wants to know.

04:28:50.860 She's newly single as of, what, one day ago?

04:28:53.060 Uh, well, um, whole life.

04:28:55.280 I mean, technically, I've never been really, like, tied down.

04:28:59.300 But you just moved here two days ago.

04:29:01.140 Do you know what I mean?

04:29:01.400 She's single ready to mingle?

04:29:04.300 Can I comment?

04:29:05.180 You said, you said the cash is not the only thing.

04:29:07.460 It is.

04:29:08.000 It is literally the only thing.

04:29:09.520 You don't know anything about him other than he lives.

04:29:12.160 Well, like, you don't know that.

04:29:13.580 All you know is that he's just spent $1,500.

04:29:16.400 Well, he could be a homie.

04:29:17.260 He's watching this.

04:29:18.040 He hasn't left.

04:29:18.620 He's messaging me.

04:29:19.520 He's clearly a normal person.

04:29:20.520 He's messaging me on Instagram.

04:29:21.780 He says he's, I'm a B25 in October.

04:29:24.260 So, he's 24.

04:29:25.220 Okay.

04:29:25.660 See, that's still in the age range.

04:29:27.480 Well, you said 23 earlier.

04:29:28.860 Okay.

04:29:29.340 But I said 25, pushing it.

04:29:31.360 You'll make an exception.

04:29:33.960 Think about it.

04:29:34.400 We can make exceptions.

04:29:36.800 Okay.

04:29:37.260 I mean, Asmongold is 31, and he's a millionaire many, many times over.

04:29:41.960 But money doesn't mean everything.

04:29:43.440 He also kind of looks like my cousin.

04:29:44.800 So, that kind of threw me off.

04:29:45.880 Hey, maybe that's a pro.

04:29:47.180 Well, I don't like my cousins.

04:29:48.500 No offense.

04:29:49.000 We're not in Alabama.

04:29:49.920 No offense to any people that love their cousins, but I'm not one of them.

04:29:54.560 What's really wrong with incest?

04:29:56.540 Let's have that conversation.

04:29:57.680 Well, I think it's just a genetic issue.

04:29:58.100 We need to get Destiny back on here for the incest debate.

04:30:00.820 When your kids come out with like four arms.

04:30:02.660 But I have a question for you.

04:30:04.060 I have a question for you.

04:30:05.580 And I, oh my God, I'm going to get, this is just like me playing devil's advocate.

04:30:08.820 Let's assume that neither person in the relationship wanted to have kids and hold on.

04:30:16.240 He's actually doing it.

04:30:17.320 I'm actually fucking, yes.

04:30:18.820 I'm actually going to fucking take the incest, the pro incest position.

04:30:26.000 Let's say both people are sterile.

04:30:28.120 They cannot, impossible to have kids.

04:30:30.460 Maybe one of them had some genetic thing.

04:30:33.220 Maybe they got sterilized.

04:30:35.680 Impossible for them to have kids.

04:30:37.120 Is it really that bad?

04:30:40.980 You know?

04:30:41.800 What?

04:30:42.500 You know, like brother and sister.

04:30:44.400 Oh, no, that's still gross.

04:30:46.120 Morally.

04:30:47.040 I think it's just really bad.

04:30:48.580 Yeah, it's gross.

04:30:49.260 It's gross, Brian.

04:30:50.440 And people are like, do you have a source for why that's gross?

04:30:53.220 Yeah, it's fucking gross.

04:30:54.280 Is it really?

04:30:54.880 It's disgusting.

04:30:55.960 No, but think about it.

04:30:56.920 Do you have a citation for why that's gross?

04:30:59.560 No, it's gross.

04:31:00.580 It's gross because there's, hold on.

04:31:02.660 Okay?

04:31:03.400 It's gross.

04:31:04.440 But would you date your siblings?

04:31:06.240 It's gross because of the kids thing.

04:31:08.480 Like, if you have kids, the birth defects, okay?

04:31:11.700 Would you date your mom?

04:31:12.280 But if you can't have kids, huh?

04:31:13.680 Would you date your mom?

04:31:14.860 No, no, no, no.

04:31:15.420 Hold on.

04:31:15.740 Oh, is that gross?

04:31:16.880 No, no, no.

04:31:17.340 Hold on.

04:31:17.660 Is there a theory that everyone looks for their parents?

04:31:21.600 What I'm saying is like sibling incest.

04:31:25.660 Yeah?

04:31:28.300 Anyway, sorry.

04:31:29.000 I'm tapping.

04:31:29.480 I'm sorry.

04:31:30.040 Okay, anyway.

04:31:30.540 You don't want to engage in this?

04:31:32.260 It's gross.

04:31:33.120 What do I need to tell you?

04:31:34.080 I do not have a source for it.

04:31:36.660 I don't have a citation for why it's gross.

04:31:38.180 It just is.

04:31:38.760 It's programmed.

04:31:39.740 It's ingrained in my brain.

04:31:40.860 It's gross.

04:31:41.400 What's so wrong about a little, assuming there's no kid, like you can't have kids.

04:31:45.740 You have a sister.

04:31:47.060 Bro, hold on.

04:31:48.240 I'm just, bro, I'm playing devil's advocate.

04:31:50.360 I'm not actually like on the fucking pro incest train.

04:31:53.300 Yeah, well, if you're going to devil's advocate, then I'm going to add home.

04:31:55.420 Do I need to let your sister know something weird is going on here?

04:31:57.540 Listen, that, no.

04:31:58.740 Let's give her a heads up.

04:31:59.500 Let's not.

04:32:00.200 Let's move on.

04:32:00.860 All right, let's move on.

04:32:02.820 We were talking about Zach, so okay, but Brandon, hey, Brandon, I'm looking at, Brandon, do

04:32:09.080 you want me to put in a good word, Brandon?

04:32:13.240 Wait, which one's Brandon?

04:32:15.020 Armani?

04:32:15.860 Yeah.

04:32:16.340 That's your name?

04:32:16.920 That's my name.

04:32:17.540 Okay.

04:32:18.820 Is your sister called like Gucci or what?

04:32:20.620 No, they're actually named after cars.

04:32:22.160 It's kind of funny.

04:32:22.900 Chevy?

04:32:23.500 So I have two older sisters.

04:32:24.460 Can I guess?

04:32:25.080 Yeah, guess.

04:32:25.720 There's two cars.

04:32:27.100 Porsche?

04:32:27.720 No, I wish.

04:32:28.260 Fuck.

04:32:28.820 I wanted that to be my name low-key.

04:32:30.480 Or like Bentley.

04:32:31.660 Mercedes?

04:32:32.360 Yeah, that's one of them.

04:32:34.360 Mercedes and Volkswagen.

04:32:40.080 Oh my gosh.

04:32:41.520 Volkswagen.

04:32:42.240 That's a great name for a girl.

04:32:43.900 I used to get roasted because I was not a car name.

04:32:46.480 You said not Bentley?

04:32:47.620 No.

04:32:48.160 I wish I was Bentley.

04:32:48.960 Mercedes and Chad, what do you think it is?

04:32:52.520 Benz?

04:32:52.980 No, Honda?

04:32:53.640 Mercedes?

04:32:53.960 Can you imagine my name was Ferrari?

04:32:56.100 I'd be so cool.

04:32:57.100 Her name is McLaren?

04:32:58.720 I wish.

04:32:59.660 Dude, I wish I had a McLaren.

04:33:00.740 Lamborghini?

04:33:02.460 No, we're getting too high value.

04:33:04.280 Wait, okay.

04:33:04.680 Give me a hint.

04:33:05.040 It's like a more regular car.

04:33:06.160 Regular car?

04:33:06.920 Shit.

04:33:07.100 I'll give you a hint.

04:33:07.660 It's on the screen.

04:33:08.920 Oh, what?

04:33:09.480 No, no, no, don't, don't.

04:33:11.500 Lexus?

04:33:12.140 Yeah.

04:33:12.480 Oh, Lexus.

04:33:16.360 Oh my God.

04:33:18.000 Mr. Paytown.

04:33:19.860 Oh, Mr. Pay to win.

04:33:20.980 Excuse me.

04:33:21.340 Thank you for the gifted 20 subs on twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:33:24.580 This is actually a good time to pull up our Twitch really quick.

04:33:26.880 Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:33:29.080 Drop us a follow.

04:33:30.140 Drop us a prime sub.

04:33:38.500 There we go.

04:33:40.680 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:33:42.580 Drop us a follow.

04:33:43.180 Drop us a prime sub.

04:33:43.960 Oh my God.

04:33:44.980 Buy power gum.

04:33:46.700 Link it, Craig.

04:33:47.200 Thank you, man.

04:33:47.540 Very much.

04:33:47.880 Appreciate it.

04:33:48.580 Go drop a follow.

04:33:49.500 Get some power gum while you're at it.

04:33:50.940 Go buy power gum.

04:33:52.540 Go buy power gum.

04:33:52.700 Every single person.

04:33:53.800 The best energy caffeine supplement ever.

04:33:55.680 Wait, question.

04:33:56.200 Can you look up right now on your phone like incoming orders?

04:33:59.800 Yeah.

04:34:00.180 If somebody buys a pack of power gum within the next...

04:34:05.420 I'll even shout your name out.

04:34:07.360 Within the next five minutes, stay safe.

04:34:12.980 We'll do a World of Warcraft dance of your choosing.

04:34:18.200 Okay.

04:34:19.320 Okay.

04:34:20.900 I don't know any of them.

04:34:22.880 Bro, but Brandon, thank you so much, man.

04:34:24.360 Much appreciated.

04:34:25.700 Can I get you guys linked up after this?

04:34:28.480 Oh, wait.

04:34:29.040 Who?

04:34:29.260 Huh?

04:34:29.980 Brandon.

04:34:31.340 The guy who dropped like 1.5K.

04:34:34.560 Wait.

04:34:34.720 Like, what are you giving him of mine?

04:34:38.800 Like my Instagram handle?

04:34:39.380 Your soul.

04:34:40.260 No.

04:34:40.640 Am I selling my soul?

04:34:41.600 Am I signing Illuminati right now?

04:34:43.080 Yes.

04:34:43.860 Oh.

04:34:44.340 No, I'm getting you linked up, you know, because it seems like you're...

04:34:47.240 You're giving him my like socials or you're like...

04:34:50.200 You should be like, oh, I'm setting this up.

04:34:52.240 I'm giving him your social security number, your birth date, like all that shit.

04:34:56.840 I just want to make sure he can steal my identity.

04:34:58.220 Okay.

04:34:58.680 Okay.

04:34:58.900 Cool.

04:34:59.180 That's why you're interested in him.

04:35:01.420 So he steals your identity, not for romantic reasons.

04:35:04.680 Okay.

04:35:05.340 Got it.

04:35:06.300 Okay.

04:35:06.540 Let's do the next Instagram guy that you guys are going to, you know, pick.

04:35:19.480 Ripperoonie.

04:35:21.380 Here we have Chance.

04:35:23.740 Now Chance, close friend of mine, you know, we're tight.

04:35:31.400 Chance is...

04:35:33.720 Scroll down.

04:35:34.600 He's got...

04:35:35.020 Is that a...

04:35:35.680 What kind of bow is that?

04:35:36.740 I don't know.

04:35:37.940 This is Chance.

04:35:40.200 And he has a cat and a dog, I guess.

04:35:46.880 Yo, thank you for all the subs on Twitch.

04:35:48.220 What a beautiful dog.

04:35:49.220 Wow.

04:35:49.400 Look at that German Shepherd.

04:35:50.420 So this is Chance.

04:35:51.560 Scroll all the way down.

04:35:53.040 Oh my God.

04:35:53.940 Mr. Pay to Win is on fire.

04:35:55.940 This guy is insane.

04:35:58.180 Thank you, man.

04:35:58.520 Appreciate it.

04:35:59.560 Dude, thank you so much for all your patronage on Twitch.

04:36:02.680 I would point out, though, what does Twitch take?

04:36:05.520 They take 50%.

04:36:06.640 Yeah, they do.

04:36:08.240 YouTube memberships take 70%.

04:36:10.980 I'm just saying, you know, YouTube memberships, they only...

04:36:15.380 Oh, excuse me.

04:36:15.920 They only take 30.

04:36:17.720 Whatever.

04:36:18.260 Okay.

04:36:18.480 Thank you, man.

04:36:19.220 Appreciate it.

04:36:20.420 Let's go back.

04:36:21.980 I think...

04:36:22.460 Well, we saw the photo, so we'll go around the table, actually.

04:36:24.320 My bad.

04:36:26.940 Yes or no?

04:36:27.900 Would you date him?

04:36:29.280 Yes.

04:36:29.820 I like Chance.

04:36:32.580 You want to elaborate a little bit?

04:36:34.440 You seem very enthusiastic about him.

04:36:36.340 Dude, Chance seems cool.

04:36:38.560 I like that he...

04:36:39.400 I saw that he does archery.

04:36:42.840 He seems like he's out in nature.

04:36:45.060 I like that.

04:36:46.220 I like his pets.

04:36:47.280 I feel like we would have stuff in common.

04:36:50.020 He's cute.

04:36:51.840 Seems chill.

04:36:53.100 Okay.

04:36:53.560 What about you?

04:36:54.360 Pass.

04:36:54.760 He's attractive, but just not my type.

04:37:00.040 What's your type?

04:37:02.320 Male feminist?

04:37:03.660 I think I find myself going for alternative people, people who look like me.

04:37:11.560 Okay, so like tat blasted with tats.

04:37:13.600 Yeah.

04:37:15.160 Some spiky arm band things.

04:37:20.240 Do you have a racial preference when it comes to dating?

04:37:24.000 No.

04:37:24.600 You don't care?

04:37:25.020 Okay.

04:37:25.740 All right.

04:37:26.900 Because you've mentioned like white colonialism a couple times, so I'm curious if...

04:37:30.360 Wait, she has?

04:37:31.400 Yeah.

04:37:32.000 Wait, I missed that.

04:37:33.360 Holy shit.

04:37:34.240 I...

04:37:34.840 For the monogamy argument.

04:37:36.140 I might have a hard time dating a white person because of a cultural disconnect.

04:37:40.520 I don't know.

04:37:41.080 That is racist against my people.

04:37:43.860 Is it?

04:37:44.980 Yes.

04:37:45.840 Was your ex-boyfriend a white person?

04:37:49.580 I'm...

04:37:50.060 This is not on purpose.

04:37:51.760 Exposed.

04:37:52.300 No, this is...

04:37:52.760 Exposed.

04:37:53.380 Exposed.

04:37:53.840 This is not on purpose, but I've only dated Hispanic men.

04:37:57.380 Oh, okay.

04:37:57.800 Yeah.

04:37:58.380 I don't know.

04:37:59.280 And you said you're from the Philippines, right?

04:38:00.940 Yes.

04:38:01.380 Okay.

04:38:02.640 Girl, Hispanic men are the biggest red flags.

04:38:05.400 But I think I find myself...

04:38:07.120 Whoa.

04:38:09.020 Wow.

04:38:09.380 This has gotten really...

04:38:11.580 It's gotten a little...

04:38:12.780 Just in my personal experience.

04:38:14.040 I'm sorry, guys.

04:38:14.640 Are you Hispanic?

04:38:15.520 Yeah, I am.

04:38:16.200 Oh, okay.

04:38:16.860 That's friendly fire.

04:38:17.700 I can understand that.

04:38:18.120 So, do you get the pass?

04:38:18.860 Can you say that?

04:38:19.540 Like, if you're also a member of that race, are you...

04:38:23.860 Well, I've just been...

04:38:26.100 I've had some bad experience with them.

04:38:27.660 And, like, seeing them...

04:38:28.960 My hometown has a lot of Hispanic people, and I'm just like, steer away now, because they

04:38:33.140 just...

04:38:33.400 Was the offensive lineman, was he a white guy?

04:38:37.240 No.

04:38:37.960 He was actually light-skinned.

04:38:40.260 Oh?

04:38:40.860 He was...

04:38:41.960 Oh, light-skinned black guy?

04:38:43.240 Yes.

04:38:43.760 Wait a...

04:38:44.380 Oh, he doesn't live here, does he?

04:38:45.920 No.

04:38:46.160 Oh, okay.

04:38:46.800 Because...

04:38:47.200 Okay, never mind.

04:38:47.680 Never mind.

04:38:48.400 I was thinking maybe you dated some...

04:38:51.180 Okay, never mind.

04:38:51.940 The one you knew?

04:38:53.100 Yeah, there's a guy who's just crushing it in Santa Barbara.

04:38:57.100 Oh, does he play here?

04:38:58.560 Yeah, he plays football.

04:38:59.560 Wow.

04:38:59.760 And he's 6'3".

04:39:01.880 Okay, anyways.

04:39:03.680 It's not him, but it might be.

04:39:05.400 Okay, so...

04:39:06.580 No, I'm just kidding.

04:39:07.540 Okay, good times.

04:39:08.680 Good times.

04:39:11.000 Did you want to continue having a back-and-forth with her on...

04:39:14.640 Um, why do you hate white people?

04:39:16.160 I don't hate white people.

04:39:17.120 Yeah, tell us why you hate white people.

04:39:18.960 Whoa.

04:39:19.940 Just be...

04:39:20.320 I don't hate white people.

04:39:21.720 You have slight disdain for them?

04:39:24.100 No.

04:39:25.140 Um, well, honestly, I think, um, it's because, you know...

04:39:31.680 Damn, how do I go about this?

04:39:33.140 Tell me.

04:39:33.420 Break it down.

04:39:34.200 What have my people done?

04:39:35.980 No, I don't...

04:39:37.400 Well, a lot.

04:39:40.840 A lot.

04:39:41.360 What are you talking about?

04:39:42.220 But it's also because being Asian growing up in the Philippines, like, when I was growing

04:39:48.260 up, I grew up wishing I was white.

04:39:51.180 So I guess, like, it's Asian beauty standards, you know, um, colorism is a big thing in Asian

04:39:57.020 countries and, like, you know, on top of everything white people did to, you know, the world.

04:40:02.960 Um, I just...

04:40:04.200 I don't know.

04:40:04.740 It's very personal.

04:40:05.720 I guess I have some resentment.

04:40:09.340 I don't know, really.

04:40:11.520 But, yeah.

04:40:12.400 I mean, it's not technically white people's fault.

04:40:14.560 I mean, like, Asian people, like, impose those beauty standards on our own people.

04:40:19.780 Kind of-ish.

04:40:20.900 I don't know.

04:40:21.460 There's a lot that goes into it.

04:40:24.240 Yeah.

04:40:25.320 All right.

04:40:25.760 Okay.

04:40:26.460 I understand your...

04:40:27.360 I understand your pure hatred now.

04:40:29.440 Not pure hatred.

04:40:30.800 I'm just kidding.

04:40:31.420 I'm kidding.

04:40:31.900 I'm kidding.

04:40:32.300 It's okay.

04:40:33.460 Oh, let's continue.

04:40:34.400 As we go, what do I do?

04:40:36.780 Um, oh, wait.

04:40:38.080 Is this Chance?

04:40:39.740 Or...

04:40:39.940 Chance, right?

04:40:41.680 Yeah.

04:40:41.940 That's his name?

04:40:42.460 Okay.

04:40:42.660 Yeah, sorry.

04:40:43.180 Chance.

04:40:43.440 Yeah, I like Chance.

04:40:44.400 Yeah.

04:40:44.660 I would hang out with him.

04:40:46.680 He's cute.

04:40:46.960 Hang out with him?

04:40:48.200 Yeah.

04:40:48.440 Would you do a little more than hang out?

04:40:51.660 I mean, we'll start with hanging out.

04:40:55.660 Hello?

04:40:56.440 Brandon Mills donated $500.

04:40:59.360 You're better be buying my guy's caffeine gum.

04:41:02.660 Also, can we get a W in the chat for how hard Brian works for us?

04:41:07.140 Oh, well, thank you.

04:41:08.760 Thank you very much.

04:41:09.660 Thank you.

04:41:10.360 Dude, Brandon, you are...

04:41:12.860 Dude, thank you so fucking much, man.

04:41:15.840 Really appreciate all your patronage and support.

04:41:17.780 It means the fucking world.

04:41:21.560 Yeah.

04:41:22.340 And once we get through this, we will bring up the...

04:41:25.220 What?

04:41:25.680 Why are you looking at me that way?

04:41:26.660 Oh, you're speaking.

04:41:27.860 Oh, okay.

04:41:28.240 I'm listening to you.

04:41:29.340 Okay, okay.

04:41:29.660 I can't listen to you?

04:41:30.900 No, no, no.

04:41:31.240 You can listen to me.

04:41:32.300 What?

04:41:32.580 Actually, for the rest of the show, you can look nowhere else but me.

04:41:36.540 Okay, so I just have to make direct eye contact.

04:41:37.520 You need to just like burn in...

04:41:39.180 Do I have to pick eye though?

04:41:40.380 Huh?

04:41:40.520 Or just both eyes?

04:41:41.340 Just look at me like right here so I feel uncomfortable.

04:41:43.840 Okay.

04:41:44.460 I'm looking right in between your eyebrows.

04:41:45.300 Have you heard of that?

04:41:46.000 If you look at someone like right there, it's like kind of a dick move.

04:41:49.080 Well...

04:41:49.580 Because it's like, they're like, whoa, they're not looking at me in the eyes but they're like...

04:41:53.620 Okay, the rest of the show...

04:41:55.460 The whole time?

04:41:56.100 You cannot look away.

04:41:57.440 Okay, bet.

04:41:58.260 Okay, this is intense.

04:41:59.360 Okay.

04:41:59.820 Well, you looked away though.

04:42:01.120 Well, yeah, I'm not going to...

04:42:02.840 It's just for you.

04:42:03.360 You have to look at the front of your face.

04:42:05.200 Yeah, just gaze upon me.

04:42:06.780 Okay.

04:42:07.100 Female gaze, haram.

04:42:08.520 Okay, just kidding.

04:42:09.200 Do you want like a scary gaze or just like a...

04:42:12.040 I want...

04:42:13.240 How about like the rock?

04:42:14.360 You have to hold the rock for the entire show.

04:42:16.760 Okay.

04:42:16.900 Dude, my eyebrows can't do that.

04:42:19.000 You know, it's okay.

04:42:20.560 It's like you're working your eyebrow muscles.

04:42:23.720 Okay, that works.

04:42:24.700 All right.

04:42:25.060 I don't know.

04:42:28.540 Where were we?

04:42:31.520 Oh, I should have been...

04:42:32.680 Sorry, I looked away.

04:42:33.560 I opted out, sorry.

04:42:34.080 Wait, let's see the eyebrow raise.

04:42:36.660 That's good.

04:42:37.300 Hold it for the rest of the show.

04:42:38.680 Okay.

04:42:39.000 Wait, which camera is it?

04:42:41.320 Wait, we were going around.

04:42:43.060 Did you guys get to answer about chance?

04:42:45.240 No.

04:42:46.200 I opted out.

04:42:47.080 Oh, opted out.

04:42:47.840 Okay.

04:42:48.260 Oh, I'm going to have to pass.

04:42:49.560 I'm sorry.

04:42:51.400 Brandon Mills donated $100.

04:42:54.200 No, y'all, I'm not refunding this.

04:42:56.900 All right, I'm done for the night.

04:42:58.900 Do enough to show I need something to listen to while I work.

04:43:03.180 Hey, Brandon.

04:43:04.640 Thank you so much for tuning in.

04:43:06.480 Thank you so much for your patronage.

04:43:07.840 Thank you so much for your support, man.

04:43:10.800 It really means the world.

04:43:13.140 That's overwhelming.

04:43:14.980 I don't think anyone's been this much of a fucking legend, Giga Chad.

04:43:20.280 Uh, so, uh, I almost feel like bro.

04:43:23.620 Hold on.

04:43:24.020 Let me fucking, I've never done this, but it warrants.

04:43:27.200 Oh my God, bro.

04:43:27.980 What is going on?

04:43:28.840 You guys are on fire.

04:43:30.160 Adam Barnett.

04:43:30.840 Thank you very much for the 20 gifted memberships.

04:43:33.940 Brandon, stick around if you're still here.

04:43:35.660 I'm going to get something very special.

04:43:37.380 Uh, Mr. Pay to Win.

04:43:38.560 Also, I think I might've missed that.

04:43:39.780 Thank you for the 20 subs on Twitch.

04:43:42.560 Someone's telling me I might've missed that.

04:43:43.800 Thank you very much.

04:43:44.360 Um, I'm going to get something while I get something very special.

04:43:49.580 Uh, let's do the next.

04:43:52.460 Oh, actually really quick.

04:43:53.720 We got to do pull up chance again.

04:43:55.400 We have to get the profile.

04:43:58.900 Okay.

04:43:59.320 This is soda pop in TV.

04:44:02.100 Very large Twitch streamer world of Warcraft.

04:44:05.260 He's a, he's big into Druid.

04:44:07.200 He plays a Druid in world of Warcraft.

04:44:09.160 He's very, very good at Druid and one of the best arguably.

04:44:11.940 Um, been in streaming for a very long time.

04:44:15.060 They're probably like just with Zach millionaire many times over.

04:44:20.740 Does that change anything for any of you?

04:44:23.180 Can I look at the screen now?

04:44:25.420 No, you have to look at, you have to just another question.

04:44:28.600 Does he play D and D like D and D?

04:44:32.140 Yeah.

04:44:32.420 Dungeons and Dragons.

04:44:33.440 Yeah.

04:44:33.840 Bro.

04:44:34.320 What?

04:44:34.760 Hello.

04:44:35.420 Okay.

04:44:36.160 Then it might have to be a pass.

04:44:36.500 Plays world of Warcraft.

04:44:37.540 Actually he's a variety streamer.

04:44:38.860 Kind of.

04:44:39.120 It might have to be, it might have to be a smash.

04:44:41.360 Does he play D and D?

04:44:42.620 I am not sure.

04:44:43.780 I'm still not.

04:44:44.740 I just got into the world of D and D guys.

04:44:46.400 I've only done two campaigns.

04:44:47.700 You started playing it.

04:44:48.820 I always thought it'd be so fun to play.

04:44:50.580 Yeah.

04:44:50.720 That's when you like create a story, right?

04:44:52.200 So my, my gym friends, which is kind of funny.

04:44:54.160 A bunch of gym bros and me just playing D and D.

04:44:56.740 That's tight.

04:44:57.100 But we played online.

04:44:58.980 Love it.

04:44:59.860 I didn't, never thought I would be a D and D person.

04:45:02.680 Well, you just like roll the dice virtually, but like, um, our game master has like all

04:45:06.300 the photos and everything and like literally uploads it almost like a, like a screen.

04:45:09.800 That's cool.

04:45:10.880 Love it.

04:45:13.480 Love it.

04:45:14.480 I've been put on.

04:45:15.420 Oh, no, that's kind of hot.

04:45:24.700 I've been put on.

04:45:27.240 Um, okay.

04:45:28.480 We're going to pull up the next one.

04:45:30.040 I need to get up for a sec.

04:45:31.540 Uh, we'll have the girls, you know, if you want to, Matt, you got this.

04:45:35.640 Yeah.

04:45:35.960 Yeah.

04:45:36.120 Yeah.

04:45:37.480 Pull her up.

04:45:38.280 Pull him up.

04:45:38.940 Pull up the next one.

04:45:43.340 Oh, it's S fan.

04:45:44.300 Okay.

04:45:44.500 This is a guy.

04:45:45.180 His name is S fan.

04:45:46.780 He's a Persian and, uh, he has a lot of hair.

04:45:51.580 He's a big guy.

04:45:54.220 He's actually quite tall as well.

04:45:55.420 I think he's like six foot one or six foot two.

04:45:59.940 Okay.

04:46:00.380 So let's go around a circle.

04:46:02.000 Would you date S fan?

04:46:07.380 Um, no.

04:46:08.920 No?

04:46:09.820 No.

04:46:10.260 What's wrong with him?

04:46:11.820 Um, I just don't see like a romantic vibe.

04:46:15.140 Also, like, I feel like he's interested in like anime because I've seen him like dressed up.

04:46:20.280 He's a big time weeb.

04:46:21.520 Big time anime guy.

04:46:22.660 And I just can't get into anime as much.

04:46:25.700 You don't like anime guys?

04:46:26.860 They're armed meatball donated $100.

04:46:28.800 It's not that I don't like anime guys.

04:46:30.200 It's just.

04:46:30.480 In Persian 2.

04:46:31.580 So smash all day.

04:46:33.880 The Persians are great negotiators.

04:46:35.580 That's what they say.

04:46:36.860 It's true.

04:46:37.360 Oh, really?

04:46:37.900 I'm a good negotiator myself.

04:46:40.300 There you go.

04:46:40.620 So maybe we have more in common than I think.

04:46:43.180 Plus, I'm holding out for a chance, you know?

04:46:46.200 Holding out for a chance.

04:46:46.960 Okay.

04:46:47.320 Yeah.

04:46:48.120 All right.

04:46:48.500 S fan?

04:46:50.060 Pass.

04:46:50.840 Pass?

04:46:51.340 Why?

04:46:52.120 He's a great guy.

04:46:53.120 I mean, I think out of, you know, the three guys we've been shown, I think he's the one

04:47:00.600 who I'd most likely go out with, like, but it would still be a pass for me.

04:47:07.160 Yeah.

04:47:08.420 That's fair.

04:47:09.040 I would say pass, but he looks like we could be friends.

04:47:15.940 He's a very nice guy.

04:47:17.020 Yeah.

04:47:18.440 Oh, my God.

04:47:19.440 So this is separate from the thing I'm going to do with Brandon.

04:47:22.940 If anybody buys, if we get one more person to buy a power gun, Matt told me that he would

04:47:28.100 change it to one of these two.

04:47:28.960 I'm not.

04:47:29.540 I'm not.

04:47:30.380 My wife will leave me.

04:47:31.520 I cannot do that.

04:47:32.460 But one of these girls will put it on.

04:47:34.140 No, no, no.

04:47:34.580 I think it's you have to change into it.

04:47:36.140 So, Matt, you will have to change into one of those three Japanese.

04:47:40.800 There's a Sailor Moon costume and a schoolgirl.

04:47:43.540 Listen, if you're tuning in, please do not purchase power gum.

04:47:47.100 I'm asking you to not buy that gum.

04:47:49.360 Does anybody know how to open champagne?

04:47:51.520 Brandon, this is for you.

04:47:52.680 This is, I never drink, but this is an auspicious occasion.

04:47:56.180 So I think we should bust out a little celebratory.

04:48:01.420 Celebratory.

04:48:03.100 Celebratory.

04:48:03.660 You're starting to sound like me now.

04:48:05.200 Me now.

04:48:05.460 Yeah.

04:48:06.140 Is this alcohol?

04:48:07.780 That's not the worst idea.

04:48:11.020 Thank you, Nick.

04:48:11.820 Watch it hit the monitor.

04:48:12.880 Maybe, like, aim it somewhere.

04:48:14.540 Here, I'll pass it to you.

04:48:16.520 Thank you, man.

04:48:18.800 I should open it.

04:48:19.740 No, hold on.

04:48:20.360 I should open it on stream.

04:48:21.740 Do you want me to give you it at the end?

04:48:23.440 Sure, sure, sure.

04:48:25.840 Who, with the exception of you two, I believe you're not of age, but who here would like some

04:48:32.440 champagne?

04:48:33.260 I'll have some.

04:48:34.180 I'll have some.

04:48:34.780 I have to drive home, so.

04:48:37.300 Oh, okay.

04:48:37.960 That's fine.

04:48:38.460 Champagne?

04:48:39.060 No, thank you.

04:48:40.460 Okay.

04:48:42.320 All right.

04:48:44.660 I think two.

04:48:46.420 That's enough.

04:48:47.660 S fan, did everybody give them?

04:48:50.120 Oh, is it my turn?

04:48:51.760 I'm sorry.

04:48:52.300 I'm going to have to pass.

04:48:54.760 Did you answer?

04:48:55.500 I think we skipped.

04:48:56.540 Oh, I think she skipped.

04:48:57.840 I upped out.

04:48:58.780 She upped it out as well.

04:48:59.920 Okay.

04:49:00.660 All right.

04:49:01.040 How many more of these do we have?

04:49:04.720 I think we have, did we have one other thing?

04:49:07.820 Here.

04:49:08.020 Well, let's do a little temper.

04:49:10.100 Oh, shit.

04:49:10.620 Okay.

04:49:11.940 I'm going to aim it.

04:49:14.460 I'm not going to aim it.

04:49:15.400 Hold on.

04:49:16.720 How do I do it?

04:49:18.440 Is it going to?

04:49:19.160 Bro, I don't drink, so I don't know.

04:49:21.520 Just going to, like, flick it.

04:49:22.620 No.

04:49:23.160 Just, like, twist it.

04:49:24.300 You need to shake it up first.

04:49:25.640 It's going to start spraying?

04:49:27.000 No, wait.

04:49:27.380 Just shake it up.

04:49:28.080 Just shake it up, it will.

04:49:29.280 Just don't move it around a lot.

04:49:30.320 But don't shake it.

04:49:32.060 I'm kind of scared.

04:49:33.220 Just don't do it, like, by the way.

04:49:34.760 I'm kind of terrified.

04:49:36.440 Hold on.

04:49:36.980 Wait.

04:49:37.600 I think you feel.

04:49:38.660 Just back away from your computer.

04:49:41.180 It's going to hit me.

04:49:41.540 Hold on.

04:49:42.200 It's going to go flying.

04:49:42.940 It's going to literally hit that, so maybe aim away from it.

04:49:44.960 Oh, my gosh.

04:49:45.980 What?

04:49:46.820 It's going to go flying.

04:49:47.920 Turn around and aim that way.

04:49:50.060 Bro, I.

04:49:51.900 How do I do it?

04:49:54.120 I've never.

04:49:54.840 I don't really drink, so I don't.

04:49:56.700 Maybe we don't need to do it.

04:49:58.000 Do I just.

04:49:59.140 Well, it's not on camera if you want to do it.

04:50:00.900 First, do this.

04:50:01.980 Huh?

04:50:03.380 I'm sorry.

04:50:03.900 I don't drink, so I don't know how to do this.

04:50:06.100 First, loosen it a little.

04:50:08.380 If I were you, I would twist it.

04:50:10.480 Twist?

04:50:10.720 But keep your hand over the top of it.

04:50:12.920 Is it going to, like, is it too strong?

04:50:15.920 It's going to exit?

04:50:16.880 It's not, like, shaking up.

04:50:18.080 It's shaking up, is it?

04:50:20.480 You'll be fine.

04:50:21.640 Full same.

04:50:23.120 Dude, I'm kind of scared.

04:50:24.080 Not going to lie.

04:50:24.520 Don't be scared.

04:50:25.560 I'm kind of fucking scared, bro.

04:50:27.740 I don't drink, so I, you know.

04:50:30.020 Oh, fuck.

04:50:30.980 Bro, I'm going to hit the fucking monitor.

04:50:32.520 I'm going to break something.

04:50:33.000 Twist it from your teeth.

04:50:34.280 Fuck.

04:50:34.760 Brandon Wells donated $100.

04:50:37.440 Bro, I'm too weak.

04:50:38.180 I can't.

04:50:38.700 Holy fuck, dude.

04:50:39.380 I'm not strong enough.

04:50:40.500 Yes, you are.

04:50:41.540 Dude, I literally can't do it.

04:50:43.000 It's the unattainable.

04:50:43.640 Grab the cord.

04:50:44.160 Dude, look at my dainty man hands.

04:50:45.540 This is unattainable for men.

04:50:47.540 Can you do it?

04:50:47.720 To open champagne bottles.

04:50:49.220 Oh, you want to do it?

04:50:50.220 I'll try.

04:50:50.740 I've never done it.

04:50:51.480 Just make sure it's pointed.

04:50:52.480 Yeah, point it that way.

04:50:54.580 How does it, how does it?

04:50:55.860 How does it?

04:50:57.360 Shoot it into the wall.

04:50:59.000 I just want to go like this.

04:51:00.040 Yeah.

04:51:00.320 Oh, is that possible?

04:51:01.100 Hold your hand over the, over it.

04:51:03.320 Yeah.

04:51:03.680 Like this?

04:51:04.320 Yeah.

04:51:04.440 I've never done that.

04:51:11.000 I was not expecting that.

04:51:12.980 You've never done that?

04:51:13.820 I've never done that.

04:51:14.280 I don't drink.

04:51:15.000 Okay.

04:51:15.440 I thought it just, no matter what.

04:51:16.880 The twist off one.

04:51:19.020 Oh, it's pink.

04:51:20.120 Oh, shit.

04:51:20.520 Am I not pouring this right?

04:51:22.120 I'm getting the fizz?

04:51:23.260 Fuck.

04:51:24.320 Okay.

04:51:27.680 You said you wanted some.

04:51:29.800 Do, do, do, do, do.

04:51:30.740 Okay, we'll do that.

04:51:31.680 All right, this is dedicated to our patron, Brandon, who, so, this should actually be a

04:51:38.720 trigger from someone, so, okay, do I just not know how to pour?

04:51:45.060 You're supposed to pour it slowly.

04:51:46.480 Yeah.

04:51:47.060 Pour it down the side.

04:51:47.480 I thought that's for beer.

04:51:48.480 I think champagne's okay.

04:51:49.620 It's just.

04:51:49.880 Well, it's also just bubbly and carbonated.

04:51:51.480 Nice and bubbly champagne.

04:51:53.040 It's going to happen anyway.

04:51:54.420 Whoops.

04:51:54.860 You're fine.

04:51:55.920 I'm sorry.

04:51:56.900 Okay, if you guys want to pass those down to the alcoholics over there on that side

04:52:01.300 of the table.

04:52:02.680 Cheers to our.

04:52:05.520 Did you get one?

04:52:06.740 No.

04:52:07.620 There's one.

04:52:08.400 Okay.

04:52:09.260 Cheers to our comrade, Mr. Brandon Mills, for his generosity in this hour of need.

04:52:16.940 Thank you very much, man.

04:52:20.800 Oh, it's not bad.

04:52:22.660 It's not bad.

04:52:25.440 Some people bought power guns, so you have to do.

04:52:27.980 Did you want to shout them out?

04:52:29.440 Yeah, listen, I'll shout them out.

04:52:30.580 Yeah, I, listen, I cannot put on that outfit.

04:52:33.060 My wife will divorce me.

04:52:34.300 I'm not even kidding.

04:52:35.460 You, actually, you signed a contract before the start of the show.

04:52:38.340 You are legally, legally bound to put on a schoolgirl outfit.

04:52:43.760 Listen, well, Justin, Justin W. bought power gum.

04:52:47.680 Now I know your address, Justin, just kidding.

04:52:50.280 We have, we have Craig, oh, Craig is one of my viewers.

04:52:53.820 I know his first name, last name.

04:52:55.400 We have David, David S. bought power gum.

04:52:58.520 We have Edward E. bought power gum.

04:53:03.280 Hey, thank you guys very much.

04:53:04.300 Thank you guys very much.

04:53:05.420 So power gum is my own, my own business.

04:53:07.700 I am the only, I'm the only guy.

04:53:10.640 I am Mr. Power Gum.

04:53:11.600 It's all me.

04:53:12.620 And this is a product I've been selling now for around two years.

04:53:16.620 And I made it because all the other caffeine products suck.

04:53:19.900 I got sick of all the caffeine pills and the caffeine powders and the canned energy stuff.

04:53:25.920 It's just all, it's got a lot of problems.

04:53:28.460 I'll say the big, the best thing about power gum is it's like a very nice, clean burn.

04:53:32.240 It doesn't have that big spike and then the crash on the back.

04:53:34.320 And it's just a very nice burn.

04:53:36.520 It's the best way I can put it.

04:53:37.760 Word.

04:53:38.000 Okay.

04:53:38.160 Let's get these final few and then we're going to wrap up.

04:53:41.240 Can you pull up the final Instagrams and then.

04:53:43.340 Sure, we could show S-Fan really quick.

04:53:56.980 We got S-Fan.

04:53:57.980 We need it.

04:53:58.320 We need a new one now.

04:53:59.160 Yeah.

04:53:59.580 This is S-Fan.

04:54:00.520 He's also.

04:54:01.500 He knows Amaranth.

04:54:03.020 Yeah.

04:54:03.940 S-Fan.

04:54:05.800 Chad Paladin.

04:54:07.060 He's like a ret paladin though.

04:54:08.540 So like in classic, it's like kind of poverty DPS.

04:54:10.780 But he is like top in terms of paladin players.

04:54:14.940 He is pretty up there in terms of skill.

04:54:16.980 But it's like, he's kind of gimped himself by playing like, you know, kind of subpar class.

04:54:23.000 But he's a very righteous man.

04:54:24.600 He's a great man of the light.

04:54:25.860 He's a great, great man.

04:54:27.080 Champion of the light.

04:54:27.760 Great man.

04:54:28.340 Let's do the next one.

04:54:30.280 This is Mitch Jones.

04:54:32.280 Oh.

04:54:32.940 Plays a mage.

04:54:33.940 Right.

04:54:34.600 In World of Warcraft.

04:54:36.400 Yeah.

04:54:37.000 So that's Mitch.

04:54:38.340 That's what's up.

04:54:41.300 I have a feeling like our girl over here, Ria, might be interested in this guy.

04:54:45.820 He's white though.

04:54:46.740 So I don't know.

04:54:47.780 Damn.

04:54:48.660 I mean, that's your words, right?

04:54:50.320 You don't like white guys apparently.

04:54:53.140 This is Mitch Jones.

04:54:55.480 I think we get the idea.

04:54:56.980 So yay or nay on Mitch Jones.

04:55:02.020 Um, no.

04:55:04.340 Damn.

04:55:05.920 No.

04:55:06.320 No, huh?

04:55:07.520 Okay.

04:55:07.960 No.

04:55:08.820 Huh?

04:55:10.000 What about that?

04:55:11.280 I have that.

04:55:12.320 Oh.

04:55:12.660 I'm going to say no as well.

04:55:14.040 Okay.

04:55:14.700 All right.

04:55:15.180 Pull him back up.

04:55:17.300 Mitch Jones.

04:55:17.960 He's another Twitch streamer.

04:55:20.560 Mage.

04:55:21.640 Okay.

04:55:22.020 All right.

04:55:22.240 Next one.

04:55:24.120 You can probably just control tab.

04:55:27.080 Oh, I.

04:55:27.860 Okay.

04:55:30.080 This is Frederic.

04:55:31.800 He is from Canada.

04:55:33.300 Yeah.

04:55:34.140 He, uh, he's, um,

04:55:38.300 um, he's Canadian.

04:55:41.020 So I don't know if that might be a con for some of you.

04:55:43.600 The little man PPC.

04:55:45.460 Little piece of shit.

04:55:47.300 Shit.

04:55:47.860 Um, and pull up, pull up that photo with the, uh, Thunderfury.

04:55:52.840 So that, um, that's him with a sword.

04:55:55.340 So I was just curious, like, you know, give it, he, he, so he's had two rogues in classic

04:55:59.940 who've had Thunderfury, which is like pretty good for a rogue, right?

04:56:02.940 Um, he's big, big rogue player.

04:56:06.340 Uh, he plays Hunter a little bit too.

04:56:08.540 Uh, what do you do?

04:56:11.880 Yeah or nay?

04:56:15.260 No.

04:56:17.640 No.

04:56:18.920 No.

04:56:19.480 Man, it's tough out here.

04:56:21.220 I'm gonna have to say no as well.

04:56:22.400 What the fuck?

04:56:23.940 I would.

04:56:24.480 Should we, should we film the keyboard photo?

04:56:26.420 Oh my God.

04:56:27.400 I'm keeping my options open for Brandon.

04:56:29.540 No, I'm just kidding.

04:56:29.960 How come you told her she was, you're gonna hook her up with Brandon, but you didn't tell

04:56:34.360 me you're gonna hook me up with Chase.

04:56:37.520 Wait, we, what, Chase?

04:56:39.680 You mean the Christian guy?

04:56:41.620 Chase?

04:56:42.140 Isn't that his name?

04:56:42.820 Oh, I think you're saying Chance.

04:56:43.840 Chance.

04:56:44.100 Oh, Chance.

04:56:44.740 Give her a chance.

04:56:45.700 I meant Chance.

04:56:46.620 Yeah.

04:56:48.040 Uh, I'll see what I can do.

04:56:49.680 Uh, let's do the next one.

04:56:51.080 Um, we got, I think we got two more.

04:56:56.860 Oh, whoops, sorry.

04:56:57.680 Didn't mean to do that.

04:56:59.960 Uh, this is, this is, what's his first name?

04:57:03.820 This is not, uh, Zaryu's, what's his first name?

04:57:06.200 Joshua?

04:57:07.860 It's Josh.

04:57:08.940 It's Josh.

04:57:09.620 He's got a baby mama.

04:57:12.040 Oh, um, I, I think that was just like, uh, like, that was like for a photo shoot.

04:57:17.260 Yeah, his sister probably.

04:57:18.160 Oh, his sister also married him?

04:57:19.200 Probably.

04:57:19.800 Um, so this is, he's definitely single.

04:57:21.780 Um, this is Zaryu.

04:57:23.360 Don't, don't worry about that girl.

04:57:24.980 This man is not single.

04:57:26.580 I'm sorry.

04:57:27.120 This man is not single.

04:57:28.720 No, I actually see a ring.

04:57:30.100 He is not single.

04:57:31.100 It's the, it's his sister.

04:57:32.180 Bro, whatever.

04:57:32.840 Really close to Zyburns.

04:57:34.160 Um, so given the photos, let's assume he's single, right?

04:57:36.880 Let's assume he's single.

04:57:38.460 Um, do you, you go for him?

04:57:41.200 Do you date him?

04:57:42.500 He's a really good guy.

04:57:43.780 Really great guy.

04:57:44.800 And he made it to, um, he made it to like 60 on his mage in hardcore.

04:57:49.900 That's impressive.

04:57:51.680 Which, you know, it's like.

04:57:54.700 It's so funny you're telling us all these like World of Warcraft statistics like it matters

04:57:59.400 to us.

04:58:00.980 Nothing matters more.

04:58:02.180 I have no idea what that means.

04:58:03.220 We're all like, yeah, like we don't know what that means.

04:58:06.680 So, do you, yes or no?

04:58:11.620 No, no, no.

04:58:16.100 I'm going to say no as well.

04:58:17.760 Okay, all right.

04:58:18.540 Let's pull it.

04:58:19.120 He's like a super attractive guy.

04:58:20.760 He's shredded.

04:58:21.580 He makes a ton of money.

04:58:23.160 Would you date him?

04:58:24.040 I would.

04:58:25.180 I'm not gay.

04:58:26.440 If he was single.

04:58:27.700 I love how that would be.

04:58:28.520 I don't like that.

04:58:29.100 But the fact that you're married didn't come up for her.

04:58:33.680 Uh, next one.

04:58:34.440 Uh, that's, yeah, Josh.

04:58:38.140 Okay, next.

04:58:38.820 But let's get real.

04:58:39.580 That is his wife, right?

04:58:40.780 This is, um, what's, I forgot his, Savix?

04:58:44.120 I don't know Savix's first name.

04:58:45.300 I don't know his first name.

04:58:45.940 You don't know your guys' friends' names?

04:58:47.560 We were, we're, us in the gamer community, we refer to each other with our gamer tags.

04:58:52.460 Yeah, but you're not like, hey, Brian.

04:58:54.840 Like, I'm.

04:58:55.640 Or like, hey, blah, blah, blah.

04:58:56.640 My, my, my gamer tag.

04:58:57.680 What happens off the game?

04:58:58.580 Like, you're texting each other.

04:58:59.500 My gamer.

04:58:59.960 You text each other a gamer tag?

04:59:01.140 Yeah.

04:59:01.740 Like, this is stay safe.

04:59:03.440 Yep.

04:59:03.680 That's not Matt.

04:59:05.480 This is stay safe.

04:59:06.200 But that's so much harder to write out when you're, like, texting.

04:59:08.700 Let's stay safe.

04:59:09.600 TV.

04:59:09.980 What?

04:59:10.540 Huh?

04:59:10.840 We don't text.

04:59:11.620 We only FaceTime every night.

04:59:13.040 Aw.

04:59:13.560 We never text.

04:59:14.040 Just kind of like you and your, okay.

04:59:15.740 Wait, did we, oh, let's pull it back up.

04:59:17.280 Scroll down, scroll down.

04:59:18.120 Let's see some more photos.

04:59:19.680 This is Savix.

04:59:20.700 He's, um, what does he play?

04:59:22.540 Is he kind of a, is he a rogue?

04:59:24.780 What does he play?

04:59:25.300 He's normally a.

04:59:26.100 What does he mean?

04:59:26.960 Oh, he's normally a Red Paladin, but also a rogue player.

04:59:30.140 Okay.

04:59:31.420 All right.

04:59:32.280 Okay.

04:59:32.680 What a nice guy.

04:59:33.320 I love Savix.

04:59:33.820 He looks like a good guy, you know?

04:59:34.760 He's a good guy.

04:59:35.900 Uh, yes or no?

04:59:39.100 I'm going to give him a yes.

04:59:41.400 Oh.

04:59:41.760 Oh.

04:59:42.700 Okay.

04:59:43.980 No.

04:59:45.540 You don't?

04:59:46.420 Okay.

04:59:46.660 I'm going to say yes.

04:59:48.440 Oh.

04:59:49.520 Oh.

04:59:50.200 Okay.

04:59:51.040 I'm going to say no.

04:59:51.960 Oh.

04:59:52.400 Wow.

04:59:52.800 Damn.

04:59:53.960 Tough crowd here.

04:59:54.760 Okay.

04:59:55.000 Uh.

04:59:56.720 Savix is killing it.

04:59:57.880 Bring it back up.

04:59:59.600 The last one.

05:00:01.740 I can throw it down.

05:00:03.040 Oh, that's fine.

05:00:04.040 That's fine.

05:00:07.120 Oh, is this?

05:00:08.240 Oh.

05:00:08.780 Um.

05:00:09.460 Wait.

05:00:10.600 Oh, this is.

05:00:11.380 Who's that?

05:00:12.140 I'm sorry.

05:00:12.560 This is that.

05:00:13.120 I don't know why you have that there.

05:00:14.140 I'm sorry.

05:00:14.540 Okay.

05:00:14.900 We're not doing that because you're married and stuff.

05:00:16.880 But, um.

05:00:17.520 Okay.

05:00:18.020 Never mind.

05:00:18.700 You have a nice family.

05:00:20.400 Oh, thank you.

05:00:20.960 Is he Korean?

05:00:22.080 Who?

05:00:22.460 Matt?

05:00:23.000 I'm not.

05:00:23.480 I'm not Korean.

05:00:24.580 He's definitely Korean.

05:00:25.840 Oh.

05:00:26.440 The previous guy, Savage?

05:00:28.000 The guy who looked kind of Korean.

05:00:29.840 Uh.

05:00:30.260 Yeah.

05:00:30.500 I don't know.

05:00:30.880 Okay.

05:00:31.120 We have.

05:00:31.380 I think he is.

05:00:33.000 Uh.

05:00:33.240 Yo, common people.

05:00:34.080 Thank you for the 50.

05:00:35.500 Is that British pounds?

05:00:37.800 Seems so hard to debate females.

05:00:39.260 You could say one plus two equals three.

05:00:40.460 And someone will say, but maybe two was that sick that day.

05:00:43.840 Bad timing.

05:00:44.720 Sending this after that 1k soup chat with me.

05:00:46.620 Yo, common people.

05:00:47.580 Thank you very much for your soup chat.

05:00:51.280 Appreciate it, man.

05:00:52.640 TJ King.

05:00:53.200 Ladies, name each other's red flags.

05:00:56.500 Name each other's red flags.

05:00:59.160 So, well.

05:00:59.900 I don't know.

05:01:00.360 You two are friends.

05:01:01.620 So, like, what's wrong with her?

05:01:03.620 And you tell me what's wrong with her.

05:01:05.300 Keep in mind, we've only been living together for about two days.

05:01:08.280 I met her yesterday.

05:01:09.240 Oh, my gosh.

05:01:11.160 Okay.

05:01:11.760 Just rip it.

05:01:13.880 What's my red flag?

05:01:15.140 What's her red flag?

05:01:15.900 Just be brutally honest.

05:01:20.280 She's got something on you.

05:01:24.260 She's got something on you.

05:01:25.800 Just make something up.

05:01:26.480 Does she leave the toilet seat?

05:01:27.820 You weigh your protein powder?

05:01:28.840 Oh, yeah.

05:01:29.200 I weigh out my protein powder.

05:01:30.660 Instead of measuring, I have a little scale on it.

05:01:32.660 Because they come with little cups.

05:01:34.280 Well, like, sometimes the cups aren't, like, measure, right?

05:01:38.180 You know?

05:01:38.600 So, like, it could be, like, 35 grams or 33 grams in it.

05:01:41.600 I want to see how many, like, protein is going to be valid.

05:01:44.080 That's definitely a red flag.

05:01:44.700 How's that a red flag?

05:01:45.660 I accept all your red flags.

05:01:47.240 Aw, thank you, Angel.

05:01:49.440 Beautiful.

05:01:52.080 Name each other's red flags.

05:01:53.820 Maybe we should, like, name our own.

05:01:54.800 I think he meant, like, for now.

05:01:55.580 Yeah, I think that's a bit easier.

05:01:57.140 Damn it.

05:01:57.740 I just said, our red flags are, like, red flags about us.

05:02:00.600 About us.

05:02:01.220 Yeah, let's start with you, and we'll move that way.

05:02:03.620 Go ahead.

05:02:04.740 My red flags?

05:02:05.480 Yeah, we'll start with you, and then move that way.

05:02:07.100 I don't have red flags.

05:02:08.440 I'm just kidding.

05:02:09.580 Stop the cat.

05:02:10.740 I know.

05:02:11.680 No, I'll be honest.

05:02:12.660 I think in my past relationships, well, red flag, like, in the initial, like, dating stage

05:02:19.600 or when you're in a relationship, like, things that people have said.

05:02:25.060 Just your own self-assessment?

05:02:26.940 I think I have a tendency to be a fixer, and I've definitely had to work on that.

05:02:31.460 I have to, I had to realize that, you know, just because I see potential or I see, like,

05:02:37.680 a good game plan doesn't mean that I need to, like, get everybody in line with that.

05:02:42.640 So, I've worked on not fixing everybody that I encounter.

05:02:47.500 Is that, is that a red, is that a red flag, though?

05:02:52.040 Not for the other person, but for.

05:02:54.920 Yeah, but it's like, that's, I mean, probably some, wouldn't a partner view that as a good

05:03:01.380 thing, kind of, to be a fixer, I guess?

05:03:04.840 No.

05:03:05.580 No.

05:03:05.860 Because they feel like it's.

05:03:07.180 Oh, like you're nagging and shit, or?

05:03:08.900 I know.

05:03:09.260 I've actually never been said that I've been a nag, a nagger, but.

05:03:13.180 So, how do you fix?

05:03:14.400 Like, if encouraging them to, or trying to get them to do something that they don't want

05:03:19.680 to do that betters them, in my opinion.

05:03:21.920 Isn't that kind of nagging?

05:03:23.220 Isn't that nagging?

05:03:24.020 It's not in a naggy way.

05:03:25.160 It's like in a, like, you should do this, but they don't want to do it.

05:03:30.060 It's not, like, naggy.

05:03:31.720 It's just, like, maybe I'm, like, I see sometimes, like, potential for them that they don't see,

05:03:37.340 so then they view it as maybe being, like, critical or something like that.

05:03:41.380 I don't know.

05:03:42.000 All right.

05:03:43.300 Okay.

05:03:45.280 Well, you guys already kind of went.

05:03:47.000 Here, how about you reveal, what are your own red flags?

05:03:49.700 What's your red flag?

05:03:50.540 Oh, probably, like, the amount of caffeine I drink.

05:03:53.160 That's a red flag?

05:03:54.020 How much do you drink, do you think?

05:03:55.380 I mean, okay, I had to cut back, but it used to be about 1,000 milligrams a day.

05:04:00.100 Oh, my God.

05:04:00.820 Yeah, a lot.

05:04:01.800 Get this girl some person.

05:04:03.400 Each piece here, 50 milligrams, it's going to totally replace all that other stuff.

05:04:07.500 I'll eat a little box.

05:04:08.240 Be careful.

05:04:09.300 But, like, literally, I would, you know, wake up, I'd go to work, drink coffee, little cup of coffee.

05:04:14.500 Then I'd have, do you know those, like, energy drinks?

05:04:17.680 You know, they're, like, 200 milligrams each.

05:04:18.880 Celsius.

05:04:19.200 Yes, sir.

05:04:20.020 Or, like, Ghost, those ones.

05:04:22.260 Those are my favorite.

05:04:23.080 I'd drink, like, two of those throughout work, you know, go home, go to the gym, double scoop my pre, you know, and then, yeah.

05:04:30.140 How's this a red flag, though?

05:04:31.420 Well, like, the heart problems.

05:04:33.740 Yeah, but, like, in the context of a relationship, like, I'm not.

05:04:36.620 Well, I'm just very, I don't know.

05:04:38.480 You're just a spaz, like, when.

05:04:40.220 Well, not only that, I just mean, like, that's probably bad for me.

05:04:43.220 That's the only, what are the red flags I can point out?

05:04:43.980 That's not, that's not, like, a red flag, like, a red flag in the context of, like, a romantic relationship, like.

05:04:49.780 What, what would be considered a red flag, then?

05:04:52.360 Like, they slashed your tires?

05:04:54.080 Have you slashed anybody's tires?

05:04:55.840 I kind of get that impression.

05:04:57.180 For me?

05:04:58.040 Is that because I'm Mexican?

05:04:59.620 Whoa, what the fuck?

05:05:00.560 Whoa.

05:05:01.480 Why would the.

05:05:02.240 Where did, how did you, how did you get.

05:05:04.460 Yeah.

05:05:04.820 Get to that.

05:05:05.640 It's because I'm a woman.

05:05:06.840 No, I've never slashed anyone's tires.

05:05:09.040 Mexican women.

05:05:09.960 Unbelievable.

05:05:10.140 Yeah, be careful.

05:05:11.160 Latina's will get you.

05:05:12.420 Yeah.

05:05:12.820 But, I don't know, what's a, what's a red flag?

05:05:16.540 Here's mine.

05:05:17.100 When I'm, when I'm like, when I'm irritated, I get kind of, like, dismissive and short, and

05:05:21.140 I get kind of, like, eh, eh, eh, eh, okay?

05:05:23.300 If I'm, if I'm tired and hungry and irritated, I get cranky and I'm, like, eh, okay?

05:05:28.620 That's called hangry.

05:05:29.660 I get hangry.

05:05:30.540 Oh, I guess.

05:05:31.080 I get very dismissive.

05:05:32.480 I guess I get hangry.

05:05:33.940 There you go.

05:05:34.680 Ah, I love food.

05:05:36.840 You love food?

05:05:37.960 Ah.

05:05:38.400 That's your red flag?

05:05:39.420 No, I said I get hangry.

05:05:40.260 Wait, what was that noise?

05:05:40.480 Can you make that noise again?

05:05:41.740 What?

05:05:42.340 The noise you just made?

05:05:43.420 What, what noise?

05:05:44.440 It was like a, eh.

05:05:45.780 Eh.

05:05:46.260 Eh.

05:05:46.540 It was like Peter Griffin.

05:05:47.900 Eh, she.

05:05:48.720 No, I can't do it.

05:05:50.060 You called me out on it.

05:05:51.100 Or like a, or like a 1920s mobster.

05:05:53.080 Yeah, she, yeah.

05:05:55.420 You didn't hear that?

05:05:56.460 No.

05:05:56.620 Can we get a replay?

05:05:57.700 Can we get a replay?

05:05:58.140 Do you actually have replays?

05:05:59.320 No, unfortunately not.

05:06:00.560 Bro, you got my, my hopes up.

05:06:02.700 We can see it after the show.

05:06:03.920 What about you?

05:06:04.860 Um, I'd say for me, my red flag is that I schedule like everything in my life.

05:06:12.400 So.

05:06:12.460 That's not a red flag.

05:06:13.580 I know, but like in my own relationship, like it's made me very like strict.

05:06:18.900 Wait, so hold on.

05:06:20.380 Yeah.

05:06:21.020 You schedule everything.

05:06:22.040 So it's like, okay.

05:06:22.760 Dates.

05:06:23.860 Like everything.

05:06:24.800 At 10, at 10, 10 PM.

05:06:26.860 Yeah.

05:06:27.340 Going to be a little foreplay at 10, 20.

05:06:30.220 That's when there's penetration.

05:06:33.160 Is that like, is that the degree of planning that you do?

05:06:36.640 No.

05:06:37.740 Then how is it a red flag?

05:06:39.540 Because.

05:06:40.420 Actually, I'd love that if a girl was like, okay, Brian, there's going to be 10 minutes

05:06:44.120 of foreplay.

05:06:44.640 Like if we have a day, I'll plan like everything.

05:06:46.780 At 10, 10, we're going to do 10 minutes of foreplay.

05:06:49.140 Then we're going to do, I don't know if I, that, that's, that's a little too assertive

05:06:52.300 I think, but.

05:06:52.820 Yeah.

05:06:53.080 Um, and then at 10, 20, there's going to be insertion.

05:06:57.060 Okay.

05:06:57.260 Do you, do you want a dominant woman?

05:06:59.260 Not.

05:06:59.740 Do you, do you want a Dommie mommy is what they say?

05:07:02.040 No, I'm, I don't want that.

05:07:04.640 Okay.

05:07:05.720 No, like riding crops, black, black leather.

05:07:08.560 Okay.

05:07:08.860 No, no, no, no.

05:07:10.760 You can be honest.

05:07:11.520 If you're incredibly submissive, you can just on up.

05:07:13.380 No, I'm not.

05:07:14.120 I'm not.

05:07:14.580 If you're just a submissive man, you can accept that.

05:07:16.900 We can talk about that.

05:07:18.200 I do like when, when like there can be like a little, I like when.

05:07:23.080 Women do initiate.

05:07:24.620 Okay.

05:07:25.100 But I don't like dominant.

05:07:26.260 Okay.

05:07:26.700 I like submissive.

05:07:28.320 This isn't such an oxymoron.

05:07:29.820 I like submissive initiation.

05:07:32.180 Okay.

05:07:33.100 If that makes any fucking sense whatsoever.

05:07:35.740 No, I get, I get that.

05:07:36.800 Okay.

05:07:37.280 Like for example, you could be some, like a girl could be submissive and be like, ask you

05:07:41.940 permission to do something in a submissive way.

05:07:44.340 Okay.

05:07:44.620 Hmm.

05:07:46.000 But she, she, the question is initiating.

05:07:48.940 Huh?

05:07:49.840 Her asking that question is initiating and that's what you want.

05:07:53.360 Sure.

05:07:54.160 Okay.

05:07:54.700 All right.

05:07:55.020 Anyway.

05:07:56.000 So wait, what?

05:07:57.780 We were talking about your red flags, which apparently is not.

05:08:00.140 I was going to say, I was going to elaborate more.

05:08:02.540 It's not a red flag though.

05:08:03.820 No, but it means that when he's late or he's running late or he cancels on me, I get really

05:08:09.840 butt hurt.

05:08:10.460 I don't think that's wrong though.

05:08:11.800 I think that's like perfectly reasonable.

05:08:14.060 Yeah.

05:08:14.720 I think it's reasonable.

05:08:15.760 That's like boundaries.

05:08:17.200 I totally agree with that.

05:08:18.000 Because I think it's rude to be late, to cancel plans, to be flaky.

05:08:21.880 Yeah.

05:08:22.520 I think a lot of people are way too comfortable, especially with cell phones now to just like

05:08:26.540 out of whim, either cancel plans or people like are very blase about being late, but

05:08:30.860 I think it's incredibly rude.

05:08:32.400 Let's talk about dating.

05:08:33.500 For example, if someone's like 30 minutes late to a first date, I think that's a really

05:08:37.520 bad first impression.

05:08:38.820 Super rude.

05:08:39.100 Even worse, if someone's like 10 minutes late and they apologize, then it's no big

05:08:46.160 deal.

05:08:46.440 But if they're super late or they're somewhat late, but they don't give you at least a token

05:08:50.720 apology, and they're like, I think that's a bad look.

05:08:55.240 Well, I think at 30 minutes, it's like deliberate at that point.

05:08:58.120 It's like you, I mean.

05:08:59.980 Oh, you should walk.

05:09:00.600 You have to try.

05:09:01.280 You should leave.

05:09:01.980 Yeah.

05:09:02.480 You don't wait longer than 30 minutes.

05:09:03.420 You think they're trying to make a power play is what they're trying to do.

05:09:06.040 That's at the beginning of the relationship, because now I'm like two years in, so it's

05:09:09.800 like a little bit.

05:09:09.920 And you accept it?

05:09:10.880 I know.

05:09:11.260 I just try to be more understanding if things come out.

05:09:13.500 Well, I think they're like some people temperamentally are like less like, and I think it's also

05:09:18.060 a cultural thing too.

05:09:19.060 Yeah.

05:09:19.340 Like in certain countries, it's kind of like a little bit, oh, if someone says show up

05:09:25.160 at a certain time, I don't know, I think they've said this about like Italy and Spain, it's

05:09:30.200 kind of a little more like casual.

05:09:32.160 It's just like being late isn't a big deal, but like in Germany, you're like, it's like

05:09:37.020 really fucking rude to be late.

05:09:39.080 Yeah.

05:09:39.280 And at least me personally, I think it's really rude like to be late.

05:09:42.240 Yeah, because usually I'm like ready like 15 minutes before.

05:09:45.340 Well, you're watching from German, right?

05:09:47.020 Yeah, this pops in my head.

05:09:48.020 So if we're in the U.S., I say, hey, see you tomorrow.

05:09:50.280 I'll say, hey, see you later.

05:09:51.940 In the U.S., it's like, well, we might not ever see each other again.

05:09:54.220 In Germany, if you say, hey, see you later, they'll say, when?

05:09:58.180 When will we see each other?

05:09:59.820 Tomorrow at nine?

05:10:01.440 Yeah, it's definitely different.

05:10:02.220 It's much more literal.

05:10:03.260 Red flags for you.

05:10:06.080 I am an extremely picky eater, so it's really hard to eat out with me.

05:10:12.860 It's hard to eat out with you.

05:10:13.820 Yeah, because I just, I want what I want, and so.

05:10:19.220 And are you also indecisive where you want to eat?

05:10:22.740 Yes.

05:10:23.000 So you're super picky, so a guy might be like, and you're indecisive too, so a guy

05:10:27.680 might say, okay, well, let's go get this, and then you're like, no, no, no, I don't

05:10:31.200 want that.

05:10:32.120 Yeah, exactly.

05:10:33.240 Okay, okay.

05:10:33.720 Yeah, that's how it goes.

05:10:34.440 Yeah.

05:10:35.560 Okay, good times.

05:10:36.520 Yeah.

05:10:36.720 Good times.

05:10:37.280 What about you?

05:10:37.860 Red flag?

05:10:38.900 I would say I'm an overthinker, which also makes me indecisive as well.

05:10:44.780 Overthinker.

05:10:45.320 Okay.

05:10:45.560 So, like, the guy doesn't text you back after five minutes, and you're like, he's definitely

05:10:49.900 cheating on me type shit?

05:10:51.600 No, not necessarily.

05:10:53.160 I feel like I definitely used to be like that, but I think I've chilled out a little bit.

05:10:57.820 Okay.

05:10:58.060 Yeah.

05:10:58.540 What about you?

05:11:00.720 I think I can be, like, really stubborn to the point where I'm bratty.

05:11:04.640 And I also have kind of a crazy family.

05:11:10.400 Okay, I get that.

05:11:11.820 How is your family crazy?

05:11:16.560 Well, my mom is, like, really into other cultures to the point where sometimes she, like, dresses.

05:11:30.220 Like, she, like, verges on transracial.

05:11:32.720 Also, she's just kind of, like...

05:11:35.240 Just because she's wearing different clothes, or...?

05:11:37.920 No.

05:11:38.720 Like, sometimes she'll speak in an accent.

05:11:42.400 She kind of has to, like, bring in other cultures to every conversation, like, the food she eats.

05:11:52.380 Also, she's just, like, generally, in general, a character.

05:11:56.220 My dad is also a character as well.

05:12:00.520 He wears, like, crazy tie-dye shirts, and he lives in this, like, casino in Vegas.

05:12:08.160 He lives in a casino?

05:12:09.840 Yes.

05:12:10.360 He's always got, like, a different business...

05:12:12.420 Well, I met him when I was 21, but ever since then, he's always got, like, a different business card for some weird project he's working on.

05:12:19.080 Huh.

05:12:19.380 One time it was, like, a poker chip.

05:12:21.080 One time, like, he...

05:12:22.240 One time he was in, like, the UFO discovery business.

05:12:26.500 He had a holographic one.

05:12:27.800 It's kind of a lot, but I got a pretty interesting family.

05:12:32.000 I don't know if it's a red flag, but it's certainly worth noting.

05:12:36.080 So, if we're dating, one day I meet your mom, she might be Jamaican.

05:12:39.400 The next day I meet her, and she's Chinese.

05:12:40.800 No, it's, like, it's, like, she has, like, she likes, like, Middle East stuff, and she's also gotten really into, like, we're Jewish, so she's also gotten really, really into that culture over time, but...

05:12:55.040 Okay.

05:12:55.280 I mean, I try and, you know, understand her, but my family is in Ohio, too, which might be another red flag.

05:13:03.000 I'm from Ohio.

05:13:04.460 Huh.

05:13:05.340 Yeah, that's a red flag, Ohio.

05:13:06.980 Definitely a huge, huge, huge red flag.

05:13:09.720 No one from Ohio.

05:13:10.480 Okay, last soup chat.

05:13:11.520 Joe Hall, thank you for the $50 soup chat.

05:13:14.320 No message.

05:13:15.520 Merci beaucoup, my friend.

05:13:16.600 Okay, before we wrap up here, does anyone have any final thoughts before we wrap up?

05:13:24.660 Are you doing the after show tonight?

05:13:26.540 I think not.

05:13:27.820 It's pretty late, huh?

05:13:28.400 It's pretty late, unless we could do, like, 10 minutes.

05:13:31.500 We'll do 10-minute after show and then wrap.

05:13:35.180 Final thoughts, anybody?

05:13:37.260 Speak now or forever hold.

05:13:38.580 Sure.

05:13:38.840 I just want to encourage everyone watching now and everyone who listens to this podcast and everyone on the podcast,

05:13:45.740 that you were just created for a purpose.

05:13:49.560 And when it comes to relationships and dating, I really want to encourage people to seek out love and fidelity

05:13:56.260 and to not be afraid to sacrifice and to love wholeheartedly.

05:14:01.480 And I think you'll find that you're more fulfilled and happier when you do that.

05:14:07.460 So those are my final thoughts.

05:14:09.080 Also, if you're interested in anything I spoke about at the beginning, my nonprofit organization is For the Martyrs.

05:14:14.800 And, again, we are raising awareness about the crisis of Christian persecution.

05:14:19.300 Over 360 million Christians around the world are facing death, imprisonment, loss of their businesses, torture,

05:14:27.160 and even death of their family members solely because of their faith.

05:14:30.720 So if you're interested in learning more about Christian persecution or just understanding these statistics,

05:14:47.320 you can follow us on Instagram at March for the Martyrs or go to our website, forthemartyrs.com.

05:14:52.580 Anybody over here, final thought?

05:14:56.900 I got nothing else.

05:14:58.380 I'll just say thank you to everyone for sharing their perspectives and equally hearing out mine.

05:15:03.120 Thank you very much for coming.

05:15:04.300 Thank you for letting us on here.

05:15:05.840 Yeah.

05:15:06.160 Oh, thank you guys for coming.

05:15:07.200 Yeah, thank you for everything.

05:15:09.440 Well, so I just have a question for you.

05:15:10.920 You requested to be on the show.

05:15:12.700 So I feel like you came here – well, I'm not trying to, like, paint you in a certain way.

05:15:18.380 But is there anything that I've said that you disagree with, like, in previous shows that you wanted to, like, debate me on?

05:15:26.220 Because, you know, you said you're a feminist, liberal, whatever.

05:15:30.020 And so I was curious if, like, you had any, you know, you were like, okay, I'm going to show this guy.

05:15:37.120 No, but I actually – I think – I haven't seen too many of the podcast episodes, actually.

05:15:43.260 I just found out about it two days ago from my ex.

05:15:47.420 Oh, your ex watches?

05:15:48.800 Yeah, he does watch.

05:15:49.800 Is that why you guys broke up?

05:15:50.780 You're like, how dare you watch this fucking –

05:15:53.360 No.

05:15:54.900 Terrible podcast.

05:15:56.600 We're so dumb.

05:15:57.500 I think there was a conversation –

05:16:00.680 I have no idea.

05:16:01.920 There was a conversation?

05:16:03.240 About the wage gap?

05:16:05.000 About the wage gap not being real?

05:16:06.800 Is that what you wanted to talk about?

05:16:08.380 It's not something I wanted to talk about, but it's something that I definitely remembered.

05:16:12.460 Okay.

05:16:12.960 Anything else?

05:16:14.360 So you don't believe the wage gap is real?

05:16:17.200 No, not really.

05:16:18.480 I think it's a myth.

05:16:21.280 It's been debunked.

05:16:22.560 Has it?

05:16:23.000 Yeah, it's been debunked.

05:16:25.240 It got thoroughly debunked.

05:16:26.480 Thoroughly debunked.

05:16:26.920 By multiple anonymous sources.

05:16:28.680 Multiple people.

05:16:30.240 From inside the Pentagon.

05:16:31.680 Inside the Pentagon, the CIA.

05:16:33.500 Yeah.

05:16:34.280 The CIA.

05:16:35.460 It actually got rebunked, and then it got debunked again.

05:16:37.980 Oh, so when they put out that –

05:16:39.620 Hold on just a sec.

05:16:41.320 The wage gap is $100.

05:16:42.960 Good stuff, Fial.

05:16:44.300 Wage gap is not real.

05:16:46.740 Oh, wow.

05:16:47.380 I don't know how quickly he typed that up.

05:16:49.820 That shit was –

05:16:50.300 If the wage gap is not real, then why did he make $100 and these women just made zero?

05:16:55.180 Wow.

05:16:55.740 Wow.

05:16:55.900 Think about that.

05:16:56.580 That's crazy.

05:16:57.120 Do you think when those statistics were put out intentionally?

05:17:01.200 Sorry, say that again.

05:17:02.000 Like when they made those wage gap statistics that you said are debunked, since they're debunked,

05:17:07.000 do you think they were put out intentionally wrong, or it was like a mistake that made them

05:17:11.120 not real?

05:17:11.700 Like what?

05:17:13.380 From what – I mean, Brian, do you want to answer first?

05:17:15.500 Like what – the question is, is it mislead – what?

05:17:19.420 Like, so people believe that there's a wage gap based on these statistics, but you said

05:17:24.940 it's debunked, right?

05:17:26.020 Yeah.

05:17:26.180 So do you think those statistics were intentionally put out wrong, or it was just somehow a mistake?

05:17:32.640 Well, I mean, the wage gap essentially is – it's a very misleading number because the

05:17:39.720 – I mean, you hear different numbers, but you hear, for example, women make $0.79 on the

05:17:44.460 dollar as compared to men.

05:17:45.980 Women make $0.83 on the dollar as compared to men.

05:17:49.720 However, that's not how you do any sort of statistical analysis.

05:17:55.080 So what the wage gap does is, you know, there's multivaried analysis of – it's a very – the

05:18:01.800 economy is a very complex thing.

05:18:04.660 You cannot just simply – and this is what the wage gap is.

05:18:07.520 It looks at all the money that women make in this country, and you compare it to all the

05:18:13.320 money that the men make in this country.

05:18:15.440 I think we can all agree that's a fairly oversimplified way to look at differences between the genders.

05:18:21.340 There are people donated $100.

05:18:24.160 Aggregate wages don't compare same pay for same work, and when you compare differences

05:18:28.860 in wages for same work, it's usually less hours worked.

05:18:32.300 Yeah, so the wage gap that's often cited – again, let's say it's $0.79 to the dollar compared

05:18:39.860 to men – that's taking all the money that women make, comparing it to all the money that

05:18:45.000 men make.

05:18:45.480 You're not accounting for type of job, type of educational achievement that they've had

05:18:51.580 when it comes to degree attainment.

05:18:53.680 You're not looking at hazard pay, which men typically are more likely to receive hazard pay.

05:18:59.540 It's not looking at – did I already say hours worked?

05:19:03.720 It's not looking at specific career fields.

05:19:06.400 It's not looking at seniority.

05:19:09.000 It's really not looking at anything besides really, really basic numbers.

05:19:13.500 So you think it was wrong because it was just done incorrectly?

05:19:18.120 There wasn't, like, some sort of reason for it being like that?

05:19:22.120 I think there was probably some agenda.

05:19:23.460 Right.

05:19:23.620 I think it's pushing some sort of equity agenda versus some sort of equality, like opportunity

05:19:30.880 of equality versus equity of outcome.

05:19:33.100 I think it's pushing some sort of agenda there.

05:19:35.260 I was just, like, curious as to, like, why it's such a commonly believed thing and, like,

05:19:40.580 who put it out when you're saying it's, like, oh.

05:19:43.160 Well, I think it fits the narrative that men bad.

05:19:45.640 Like, I was just wondering if there was, like, yeah, like, more reason for it or it was just,

05:19:49.640 like, done again.

05:19:50.220 No, it's what Brian said.

05:19:51.280 Also, men are more willing to work overnight shifts, which generally pay higher.

05:19:54.060 They're working to do overtime.

05:19:55.720 Also, women generally, not all women, but a lot of women will take two or three years

05:19:59.120 off of their career and they'll have a child and then maybe they'll get into their career

05:20:02.840 back.

05:20:02.860 So there just was, like, a lot of factors that weren't included in that.

05:20:06.040 It was lacking a lot of nuance.

05:20:07.580 Okay.

05:20:08.420 Yeah.

05:20:08.900 The question you need to ask yourself is not whether it exists.

05:20:12.520 And by the way, so there's no pay gap or wage gap.

05:20:15.000 There is an earnings gap.

05:20:17.100 But the question you need to ask yourself is not whether it exists, but why it exists.

05:20:23.060 And the answer is it's not sexism.

05:20:25.000 There's many reasons for earnings gap.

05:20:27.520 One of the big ones I forgot to mention, aside from hours worked and career field, you know,

05:20:32.860 you look at college, which actually the majority, we don't look at the gap in college where it's,

05:20:37.660 like, 60% women who are going to college getting degrees ever since 1979.

05:20:42.800 There's been more women who are going to college than men.

05:20:45.680 We don't really look at that anymore.

05:20:47.380 As soon as it's inequality when men are advantaged, but once women are advantaged in some paradigm,

05:20:53.940 all of a sudden it's, well, now you've had equality even though it's not.

05:20:58.800 You're not looking, you're not taking into account when it comes to the earnings gap,

05:21:03.300 women's own choices.

05:21:04.440 So women make certain choices that lend to the supposed wage gap or what is in actuality

05:21:13.520 an earnings gap.

05:21:14.980 For example, if you look at the top 10 paying fields of study in university, men predominate

05:21:21.340 in the top 10, I don't know if it's, it's either the top 5 or top 10 majors, whereas women

05:21:27.900 predominate in the lowest paying majors or disciplines in universities.

05:21:32.900 So, but it doesn't take into account, you know, different hours worked by men, different

05:21:38.080 types of jobs, many other factors.

05:21:40.000 And I mean, we can talk about gaps though.

05:21:41.680 There's all kinds of gaps.

05:21:43.780 We can talk about the, you know, more likely to die on the job gap.

05:21:51.500 93% of workplace fatalities are men.

05:21:54.360 So we can talk, let's talk about gaps.

05:21:55.940 Um, you know, you can, you can make the argument that should a job where you're likely to die

05:22:02.000 at, should that pay more?

05:22:03.160 Well, it happens to be the case that there are more men in jobs where you're likely to

05:22:06.320 be, uh, to die.

05:22:08.400 You're more likely to be injured.

05:22:09.840 You're more, for example, let's, we can talk about the more likely to be electrocuted to

05:22:15.020 death gap, the more likely to be crushed to death gap, the more likely to fall to their

05:22:19.560 death gap, more likely to be injured on the job gap.

05:22:21.900 Like, well, these, this is all predominated by men, but we don't really talk about that.

05:22:28.180 So, you know, good times.

05:22:32.580 Did, I, I kind of rambled there, but I don't know if you ever wanted to have a back and forth

05:22:37.920 on the wage gap.

05:22:39.400 I feel like I need to do more research before I speak on the topic.

05:22:44.160 Okay.

05:22:48.140 Good times.

05:22:48.920 Good times.

05:22:49.040 I think that's a, that's a good opinion to have.

05:22:50.780 That's a good take.

05:22:51.220 Yeah, that's fair.

05:22:51.780 Five and a half hours later.

05:22:52.260 Yeah, that's totally, totally fair thing to say.

05:22:54.380 What's that?

05:22:55.100 I said goodnight.

05:22:56.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:22:57.740 I'm young.

05:22:58.420 It's my bedtime.

05:22:59.280 Yeah, we're going to wrap up here soon.

05:23:01.800 Okay.

05:23:02.380 Last question I had.

05:23:03.500 Let me just double check, make sure we're not missing any chats.

05:23:06.120 I don't want to like screw anybody over here.

05:23:07.780 Oh, did we have, okay.

05:23:08.840 We had a cup coming in.

05:23:11.480 Just, oh, really quick on this whole, like kind of some of the feminist stuff.

05:23:14.200 Just show of hands.

05:23:14.660 Who here considers themselves to be a feminist?

05:23:16.800 Show of hands.

05:23:19.640 Raise them high if you are.

05:23:21.140 I'm not taking a feminist studies class.

05:23:23.480 I don't even know.

05:23:24.180 I mean, I would say yeah.

05:23:26.700 Haram!

05:23:27.480 What do you mean by feminist?

05:23:29.380 I feel like it's not such a...

05:23:30.220 Like women advocating for women or like just like...

05:23:32.720 Yeah, like a feminist.

05:23:34.480 Meaning what?

05:23:35.200 But not extreme.

05:23:36.440 Can you like, I'm like, I'm curious to know what like the definition of a feminist is.

05:23:42.240 I've been thinking about that lately.

05:23:43.420 Sure, well, I mean...

05:23:43.920 Because I feel like a lot of it has like extreme connotations, but I don't know if that's like

05:23:48.300 actually...

05:23:49.120 Sure.

05:23:49.740 Well, okay.

05:23:50.280 If feminism is an ideology, my...

05:23:54.200 You probably shouldn't ask me what my definition of it is, but everybody is.

05:23:57.020 No, I just want to know like the definition, not yours.

05:23:59.560 Well, I mean, you can ask 10 feminists and they would all give you different definitions.

05:24:03.420 Well, I just want to know like the official one.

05:24:05.360 Well, okay.

05:24:05.740 The most...

05:24:06.260 Like from Webster or whatever.

05:24:07.400 Sure, if I'm being charitable, okay, I...

05:24:11.940 You can look it up on your computer, right?

05:24:14.880 Feminists purport that they fight for equality.

05:24:18.780 But I mean, that's really not true.

05:24:21.120 See, that's why I was reluctant because I feel like the like definition of feminism to

05:24:26.640 some isn't the same, like...

05:24:28.920 Yeah, no, I think it's a fair assessment, right?

05:24:31.740 So feminism 70 years ago meant something different than feminism means today.

05:24:36.000 Yeah, like I feel like now it has like extreme connotations and like woe connotations, but

05:24:41.260 like to some people it might not mean that, so...

05:24:44.200 Sure, sure.

05:24:46.080 Yeah, I mean, so just in the last two or three years, the word feminism has changed in some

05:24:49.700 ways that we probably shouldn't get into in the podcast.

05:24:51.800 That's why I'm like, what is like the clear definition...

05:24:53.100 Oh, I'm sorry.

05:24:54.160 No, I mean, like, you know, feminism 70, 80 years ago was talking about giving women the

05:24:58.360 right to vote and own property and get bank loans and things like this, and now feminism

05:25:01.800 these days has shifted from equality of opportunity to equality of outcome.

05:25:06.000 Which is not exactly super desirable, it's sort of, it's not even possible, right?

05:25:11.880 For reasons we just talked about with Brian and the wage gap, and feminism is starting

05:25:15.900 to become...

05:25:16.560 Yeah, I feel like even the meaning of the word feminism can be like taken in many different

05:25:21.180 ways.

05:25:21.540 Well, you're also seeing right now sort of a civil war within feminism itself, where

05:25:24.860 you have feminists that are accepting of trans women, and then feminists that are not.

05:25:29.960 These are called TERFs, right?

05:25:31.380 The radical trend, yeah.

05:25:33.220 And so there is sort of the feminist civil war, so I don't know.

05:25:37.080 I feel like there's a war between the two genders, and then there's a war within the genders

05:25:41.680 themselves.

05:25:42.840 Yeah, well, men and women should have equal rights and equal protection under the law.

05:25:48.800 Men and women absolutely have equal dignity, but men and women are not the same.

05:25:52.720 And I think today's feminist movement, and maybe even the beginning of, or at some point

05:25:59.420 the feminist movement transformed from advocating for equal rights and equal protection, to now

05:26:04.920 saying that not only are men and women supposedly the same, which they're not, that somehow men

05:26:11.860 are bad.

05:26:12.580 And that's what I think a lot of the narrative is coming out of today's feminist movement.

05:26:16.800 Yeah, because like, I don't believe that.

05:26:18.820 Like, I don't think men are bad.

05:26:20.200 Like, I don't feel, like, against men.

05:26:22.100 If anything, I want to try and, like, understand them more and, like, coexist with men more.

05:26:27.280 But I do believe, like, women should be treated equally with respect, so if that makes me

05:26:33.640 Equal, but not the same.

05:26:35.340 Men and women are different, but they have, they should have equal rights, equal protection,

05:26:39.180 and have equal dignity.

05:26:42.460 Word.

05:26:43.140 Okay, so you're, you consider yourself to be a feminist, correct?

05:26:46.380 So, since you consider, you have a sense of what that means, what, just really quick,

05:26:50.660 what's your, like, sense of what being a feminist is, or what is feminism?

05:26:54.280 You know, Gia, I feel like, worded it perfectly.

05:26:57.480 We actually had a conversation about this before we went in, and I feel like she said it perfectly.

05:27:04.020 That men and women are different, but they're both necessary and should be respected with

05:27:08.040 equal rights.

05:27:09.440 Absolutely.

05:27:10.040 Really?

05:27:10.500 Are you sure that's what it is?

05:27:11.760 Yeah.

05:27:12.220 Why?

05:27:12.400 Well, what do you, what did you think it was going to be?

05:27:14.880 Well, I mean, you know what, though?

05:27:17.360 I think a lot of people will claim that's what it is, but, um, I don't really think feminists

05:27:24.740 really fight for equality.

05:27:26.080 Mm-hmm.

05:27:26.860 Today.

05:27:28.340 Today's world.

05:27:28.980 Well, even...

05:27:29.500 Because we have equal rights under the law.

05:27:31.200 Yeah, and I mean, even historically, but, uh, to some degree, but I don't think feminism

05:27:36.220 is a true equality movement.

05:27:38.160 We have something called egalitarianism, which I think is a much more, uh, appropriate term

05:27:43.440 for people who are seeking true equality.

05:27:46.380 Uh, I mean, feminism, in my estimation, is, in the most charitable sense, is women's advocacy.

05:27:54.220 There's nothing wrong with women's advocacy.

05:27:56.340 However, that's not the same as equality, or someone who fights for equality, because you,

05:28:02.560 you wouldn't, for example, find feminists, uh, try, if there was something where men were,

05:28:11.240 uh, either discriminated against, or where men had some sort of detriment in society, feminists

05:28:17.960 are not fighting for men in any capacity.

05:28:20.180 And, in fact, if, if equality would, were to come in some conceivable way, at the detriment

05:28:29.700 of women, feminists would fight against said equality to secure the preferential treatment

05:28:35.320 of women.

05:28:36.680 So let's take, for example, uh, the draft.

05:28:40.720 Right now, men are the exclusive, um, only men in the United States are subject to military

05:28:48.700 conscription, forced military conscription, women are exempt, you're never, like, feminists

05:28:55.360 will fight tooth and nail to prevent women from also being subject to the draft, even though

05:29:01.280 that would be equality.

05:29:04.500 Now, I don't, I don't think military conscription is a desirable thing, but let's be honest,

05:29:09.420 we cannot, it's, we're not going to be able to get rid of the draft for, I mean, there's,

05:29:13.840 there's geopolitical reasons why you cannot get rid of a draft.

05:29:17.700 But, um, yeah.

05:29:22.260 More?

05:29:22.980 Yeah, and so, and so, yeah, so you don't see women advocating for, hey, we want to be a

05:29:27.060 part of selective service.

05:29:28.140 That's not a talking point of modern feminists.

05:29:30.520 Right.

05:29:31.040 You don't see modern feminists, uh, pushing back against 64% of, um, male infants getting

05:29:37.420 circumcised.

05:29:38.360 No one, no one's, no, no feminist is talking about that, right?

05:29:41.180 I heard one talk about it.

05:29:42.420 Well, I think a really good example is in Florida, there was, uh, a bill that was proposed

05:29:48.140 to, uh, I think default, it would be split custody in the case of if there was a divorce

05:29:54.420 or, you know, the parents were having a custody to dispute, uh, the bill was proposed to create

05:30:00.340 equality, whereas both men and women could have, like, guaranteed split custody, and it would

05:30:06.260 not just default to women.

05:30:08.340 And a bunch of women's organizations, feminist organizations, actually fought against, fought

05:30:14.580 against that bill.

05:30:15.620 I don't know the specific, uh, details of the bill.

05:30:18.820 But one of the biggest, I think now, NOW, which is a major feminist women's organization,

05:30:24.820 uh, they, uh, they fought against the bill, and I think the, the governor at the time,

05:30:29.880 I forgot who it was, uh, ended up vetoing, uh, the bill, so it didn't get passed.

05:30:35.260 So, I mean, feminists will fight against equality if said equality comes conceivably at the detriment

05:30:43.620 of women in some way.

05:30:45.140 Okay. So, uh, I guess a lot of feminist organizations are against assumed shared, uh, custody of,

05:30:52.420 of children. Um, and it's not, I think, I don't know what the breakdown is by the various

05:30:56.900 states in this country, but I definitely know that, uh, typically women are going to be,

05:31:01.660 uh, if there's a custody dispute, more likely the, the family court system, there's a bias

05:31:05.760 there. The women are more likely to be awarded, uh, majority custody or full custody.

05:31:11.580 I don't know the exact details.

05:31:13.080 Not in California.

05:31:15.140 Well, perhaps that's one way California has it good. I'm not sure. I'd have to look up,

05:31:19.220 up the, uh, state-specific, uh, details when it comes to custody of children. Um, I have one,

05:31:24.860 one question for you, though. So, uh, feminist, um, do you believe that women are oppressed?

05:31:31.720 Do you believe that?

05:31:32.580 Well, I believe that men have more privilege than women.

05:31:37.580 You have, you believe men have more privilege than women. Okay.

05:31:40.640 Yeah. Um, but, so do you believe women?

05:31:44.720 Um, sorry. Um, I feel like, sorry, let me gather my thoughts. I'm feeling very sleepy.

05:31:54.140 Um.

05:31:54.660 It's late. Maybe we can have you back on.

05:31:56.320 Yeah, that would be great, actually, so I could come back with more research.

05:31:59.320 Sure. Um, like the press secretary.

05:32:05.000 Next time, we'll all bring our laptops.

05:32:06.620 Ooh, I want one of those pointers.

05:32:09.360 A little piece of paper.

05:32:11.900 PowerPoint.

05:32:14.140 Tell you what, we'll save it for next time. How's that sound?

05:32:16.440 Okay.

05:32:16.820 What was the question again?

05:32:17.960 Uh, what? I was just asking, uh,

05:32:22.960 Well, we can save it for next time. How's that sound?

05:32:25.200 Okay, but I want to prepare and research, and I forgot the question.

05:32:27.500 Oh, I was just asking, so I was like, well, you're feminist, like, do you think that, that women are oppressed?

05:32:31.620 And why?

05:32:32.600 Huh?

05:32:33.080 Okay.

05:32:33.520 Yeah.

05:32:34.400 Sure.

05:32:34.760 Okay.

05:32:34.940 What, what is male privilege, I guess, is part of the question.

05:32:37.660 Male privilege.

05:32:38.880 In what ways are men privileged?

05:32:42.020 Many ways. I'm so sorry, I'm really blanking out right now.

05:32:45.800 It's almost, it's almost one in the morning.

05:32:47.200 Yes.

05:32:47.420 Really?

05:32:48.140 Yeah.

05:32:48.880 It's so late.

05:32:50.960 It's very late. Okay, I think that's, let me just double check. Okay, we're good. Okay, uh, um, before we wrap, any last, last thoughts before I wrap up?

05:32:59.020 Are you left-handed?

05:33:00.540 I am.

05:33:01.400 You both?

05:33:02.460 Are you left-handed?

05:33:03.120 I think she was asking me, I am.

05:33:05.300 Okay.

05:33:05.600 Why?

05:33:06.200 Left-handed right there.

05:33:07.040 Is that some, no, that's some big red flags right there.

05:33:09.100 What the fuck?

05:33:09.960 Left-handed people.

05:33:10.400 Isn't there, like, a scholarship for that?

05:33:12.720 12%.

05:33:13.440 We're the top 12%.

05:33:14.980 Dude, more white people get divorced than are left-handed people.

05:33:19.200 Really?

05:33:19.300 More, wait, what?

05:33:20.080 No, I'm just kidding.

05:33:21.200 Making a fake statistic, guys.

05:33:22.620 Oh, okay.

05:33:23.280 Just kidding, just kidding.

05:33:24.180 I'm just kidding.

05:33:25.240 Yeah, I think, uh, honestly, we can talk about, like, you know, racial privilege, gender privilege, but, like, handed privilege?

05:33:33.060 Yeah.

05:33:33.300 Honestly, I want reparations.

05:33:35.320 Scissors and notebooks.

05:33:36.880 I'm left-handed.

05:33:38.040 I should get reparations from all you right-handed people.

05:33:41.340 They said that the scissors don't fit your guys' hands.

05:33:42.440 What does that mean?

05:33:43.060 Hold on.

05:33:43.460 Who here is right-handed?

05:33:44.800 Me.

05:33:45.240 Me.

05:33:45.780 Show of hands, who's right-handed?

05:33:47.400 Is there any left-handed people here?

05:33:49.160 No.

05:33:49.400 What's up, bro?

05:33:49.940 It's us.

05:33:50.240 Okay.

05:33:50.720 Solid, solidarity.

05:33:52.120 You know, on average, left-handed people.

05:33:53.580 Left-handed solidarity.

05:33:54.100 Wait, are men more likely to be left-handed than women?

05:33:57.040 I don't think so.

05:33:57.760 Not sure.

05:33:58.160 I don't know.

05:33:58.480 I don't know if I've ever met a left-handed.

05:34:00.380 I don't know if I've ever met a girl that was left-handed.

05:34:03.680 I don't think I've ever met a place in my brain where I'm like, that might be true.

05:34:08.140 Yo, here's what, listen, is anyone here in favor of reparations?

05:34:14.280 No.

05:34:14.960 Okay.

05:34:16.140 We are left-handed.

05:34:17.120 You guys are right-handed.

05:34:18.060 I want you guys to get your purses right now and give us money for what you guys have

05:34:23.040 inflicted upon us.

05:34:24.680 Historically, we are historically oppressed as left-handed people.

05:34:30.380 Have you seen fucking scissors?

05:34:32.420 Fuck that shit.

05:34:33.480 Fuck scissors, son.

05:34:34.560 Everybody has problems.

05:34:34.980 Have you seen desks when you're a kid?

05:34:36.680 The desk?

05:34:37.160 Oh, the desk, the little thing, the little nub?

05:34:39.340 That's okay.

05:34:39.680 The desk nub?

05:34:40.700 It's on the right-handed side, son.

05:34:42.660 True.

05:34:43.100 Do you know how much I suffered?

05:34:44.260 What does that have to do with your left hand?

05:34:44.760 Do you know how much I suffered?

05:34:46.840 Huh?

05:34:47.220 What does that have to do with your left arm?

05:34:48.780 Your arm is like on the arm resty thing back here?

05:34:51.660 Bro, that's for like riding, son.

05:34:52.960 But you have accommodations in schools now.

05:34:55.200 Oh, I guess people have longer arms.

05:34:56.980 You know, back in the day, the teachers used to beat it out of the kids.

05:34:59.920 If you were a kid and you were inclined to write with your left hand, they'd walk around

05:35:02.620 with a rod and they'd smack your hand.

05:35:04.540 Yeah.

05:35:04.740 I'm just trying to feel their pain.

05:35:05.700 Listen.

05:35:06.220 Abuse.

05:35:06.580 I want all of you to go get your purses and you need to pay us, me and Matt here, for

05:35:15.560 the discrimination that we have faced throughout history, throughout our lives.

05:35:21.040 Okay.

05:35:21.620 Millions of dollars?

05:35:22.440 I want 20 bucks from each of you.

05:35:24.040 Dude, you're lucky if I have 20 bucks in my purse.

05:35:26.660 Oh, that's why you're about, Brandon.

05:35:28.200 Okay.

05:35:29.340 No.

05:35:30.580 Okay, cool.

05:35:31.460 We're going to wrap there.

05:35:32.580 I want to give a big, big thank you.

05:35:37.020 Should we do a body count really quick?

05:35:39.280 We should do one more power gum.

05:35:40.840 Listen.

05:35:41.200 Oh my God.

05:35:41.880 You should go by power gum.

05:35:43.720 I'm telling you, if you are sick of all these other trash energy supplements, power gum,

05:35:48.420 look, let me, let me open this up here.

05:35:50.800 It's a little sleeve.

05:35:52.740 Shameless.

05:35:53.640 You are shameless, my friend.

05:35:56.220 You are shameless.

05:35:57.040 Do you guys want a power gum?

05:35:58.260 I want one.

05:35:58.940 Can I try one?

05:35:59.360 Can we have one?

05:36:00.460 Yeah, please.

05:36:01.480 Slide it open.

05:36:02.580 Try some.

05:36:03.060 Try serious.

05:36:03.740 I need one for this drive home.

05:36:05.140 There you go.

05:36:05.980 Can I please?

05:36:06.720 Thanks, too.

05:36:07.880 They're really good.

05:36:08.540 You're going to like them, okay?

05:36:09.240 Circle.

05:36:09.900 Yeah.

05:36:10.300 Best energy ever.

05:36:11.400 Wait, this is so cool.

05:36:13.060 Got them hooked.

05:36:14.300 Wait, what flavor is it?

05:36:15.460 Let's see live review.

05:36:16.680 Six more addicts.

05:36:18.500 Chew through it.

05:36:19.900 Give it 30 seconds.

05:36:21.100 Get it chewing.

05:36:21.940 I'm hyped up.

05:36:22.920 We got texture.

05:36:24.240 I'm telling you.

05:36:24.840 Wait, okay, while you guys are chewing, body count.

05:36:29.980 Body count.

05:36:31.580 Should body, I don't know.

05:36:32.740 I'm too fucking tired for this.

05:36:34.580 Anybody want to share their body?

05:36:36.480 No one else will share.

05:36:37.700 Next episode.

05:36:39.340 Do you want to share your body?

05:36:40.580 Is it vanilla?

05:36:41.220 I'm a virgin.

05:36:42.420 Are you?

05:36:42.900 No.

05:36:43.080 Am I going to get into vanilla in this?

05:36:45.700 Will you be my first?

05:36:46.400 Just kidding.

05:36:46.860 Vanilla mint a little bit.

05:36:48.360 That's good.

05:36:49.420 I really like the flavor.

05:36:50.660 It's got nice flavor.

05:36:51.540 And it's got caffeine and vitamins in it.

05:36:53.480 Okay, cool.

05:36:54.020 I'm off the power go.

05:36:55.640 Really good.

05:36:56.720 So, guys, last call.

05:36:58.540 Please hit that like button on your way out.

05:37:00.640 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

05:37:02.680 Drop us a follow.

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05:37:04.660 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

05:37:05.600 You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.

05:37:07.820 I appreciate that.

05:37:08.720 Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.

05:37:11.540 Should we do an after show?

05:37:12.600 Anyone want to stick around for the after show or are you guys all poofed?

05:37:14.700 I'll chill for a little while.

05:37:15.720 Ten minute after show.

05:37:16.700 That's fun.

05:37:17.540 I think.

05:37:18.400 Matt, do you want to run the after show?

05:37:20.380 Yeah, sure.

05:37:21.120 Yeah, I need to go back first though.

05:37:22.740 Okay, cool.

05:37:24.060 Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.

05:37:26.860 Big thank you to the panel.

05:37:27.940 Really appreciate it.

05:37:28.560 Thank you guys for coming.

05:37:29.960 We went really fucking late.

05:37:31.460 I need to figure out how to end these shows sooner.

05:37:33.720 So, thank you guys for your patience while we went super late here.

05:37:36.700 Any women who want to be on the show, DM.

05:37:38.720 Not whatever on Instagram.

05:37:39.740 We will be live again Sunday.

05:37:42.820 Wait, is it Tuesday?

05:37:44.780 Actually, we might do a show with Adam22 from No Jumper.

05:37:48.820 He's been kind of in the news recently because of some things with his wife.

05:37:55.380 Letting his wife do a scene with another dude.

05:37:58.060 We might have him on on Friday.

05:38:00.700 Maybe the details are getting worked out.

05:38:03.040 So, we might do an off show, off day show on Friday.

05:38:06.120 If not, we will be back Sunday at 7 p.m. Pacific.

05:38:10.580 Thank you so much for tuning in.

05:38:12.060 There is one super chat that just came in really quick.

05:38:13.980 I'll read it really.

05:38:15.200 I'll read it very fast.

05:38:16.380 Men Build, Women Occupy from Francisco Sanchez Jr.

05:38:22.880 Okay.

05:38:23.380 Thank you for triggering the ladies on your way out.

05:38:25.500 Appreciate it.

05:38:25.960 Jeff the Truth Bringer.

05:38:27.200 Thank you for that.

05:38:28.560 Okay, cool.

05:38:29.740 Thanks again for tuning in, everyone.

05:38:32.240 Very much appreciated.

05:38:33.240 Sunday, 7 p.m. Pacific.

05:38:34.520 Art is our next show.

05:38:35.900 We'll see you next time, guys.

05:38:37.220 Hope you guys have a good night.

05:38:39.560 Are we still live?

05:38:46.600 We're still live.

05:38:47.320 Oh, okay.

05:38:49.200 What do we do?

05:38:50.680 Huh?

05:38:51.420 Can we leave?

05:38:52.680 Oh, yeah, yeah.

05:38:53.680 He's just doing like a five-minute hour show.

05:38:56.800 It's an after show.

05:38:58.220 There's more discussions.

05:39:02.560 It's nice meeting you guys.

05:39:04.240 We do.

05:39:04.800 It's nice meeting you guys.

05:39:06.060 Have safe travels back home.

05:39:07.820 I know, like, how are we all going to drive after this?

05:39:11.340 I wake up at 8.

05:39:13.340 Oh, girl.

05:39:15.340 I'm so sleepy.

05:39:16.500 I thought that was a fucking real person.

05:39:21.060 How often do you do these shows?

05:39:23.140 Like, once a week?

05:39:23.960 21st week, something Tuesday, something Tuesday.

05:39:27.660 You like it?

05:39:29.140 You like it?

05:39:29.880 All right.

05:39:30.360 I like the flavor.

05:39:33.020 The shape of your paper.

05:39:34.780 I think it's a good one.

05:39:36.040 I'm going to be on.

05:39:37.820 Does it usually go through your body after spending, even though it's running on a mission?

05:39:43.680 Yeah, what long is it usually?

05:39:46.220 Are you just four apples or apples?

05:39:48.120 Four to five.

05:39:50.340 Yeah.

05:39:52.760 Their almond meatball donated $100.

05:39:56.420 Yo, gum guy.

05:39:58.100 Do you manufacture or do you use a contract manufacturer?

05:40:01.740 Yeah.

05:40:02.180 Yeah.

05:40:02.740 The real Mr. Meatball.

05:40:05.600 Does anybody want to stick around for five minutes for the after show?

05:40:08.660 I know you two are dying to stick around for the after show.

05:40:12.460 Me?

05:40:12.760 That's when all the, that's when all the, that's when all the.

05:40:16.520 What happens when we all go to life?

05:40:18.320 We just, we basically just, like, pick it for, like, ten minutes after.

05:40:21.720 We're not, like, arguing, we're just talking to the chat.

05:40:25.260 Okay.

05:40:25.520 We're down.

05:40:27.260 Yeah.

05:40:27.580 Yeah.

05:40:28.020 I got cash.

05:40:29.080 If any of you have to, like, well, you guys are open on stuff, but these girls, like,

05:40:34.940 have to, like, have to, like, have to, like, have to, like, have to, like, hey, thank you so much for coming here.

05:40:37.680 You were great.

05:40:38.420 You were awesome.

05:40:39.080 Thank you so much.

05:40:39.640 I think I got, like, a cast on those.

05:40:43.660 Oh.

05:40:45.100 Are you doing it at all?

05:40:46.440 Yeah.

05:40:47.140 Yeah.

05:40:47.500 It was fun.

05:40:48.240 Yeah.

05:40:50.000 Yeah.

05:40:50.360 Thank you guys so much for coming.

05:40:51.800 All right.

05:40:52.080 But those of you who need to take off that account so we understand.

05:40:55.820 Well, Matt, assume the, uh, figure of she has.

05:41:01.740 Thank you guys so much for coming.

05:41:03.080 Thank you guys.

05:41:03.760 We should, like, see you guys.

05:41:07.000 Did you want to?

05:41:07.800 Yeah.

05:41:08.820 Yeah.

05:41:09.180 Oh, I peed.

05:41:16.460 I'm feeling so good.

05:41:18.180 Hi, chat.

05:41:19.540 What costume?

05:41:20.640 Oh, there's nothing.

05:41:21.220 It's your favorite, uh, tradcon simp is what someone called me.

05:41:27.240 It's your favorite tradcon simp.

05:41:30.120 Yo.

05:41:31.000 Wait, I'm going to trigger a TTS.

05:41:33.820 Yo, what's up?

05:41:34.720 Sit over there with a Matt, Matty Boy.

05:41:37.140 You're lucky you gave me the caffeine guide.

05:41:39.100 Yeah, don't forget you're a CTU service.

05:41:41.300 I know.

05:41:42.860 Right here?

05:41:45.300 Anywhere you want.

05:41:46.540 Cool.

05:41:46.840 What's your name again?

05:41:48.560 Case.

05:41:49.160 Case.

05:41:49.580 Hi.

05:41:49.880 Okay.

05:41:51.540 And you're just going to school in the area?

05:41:53.220 Mm-hmm.

05:41:53.680 Okay, wow.

05:41:54.560 I'm from San Diego.

05:41:55.760 San Diego.

05:41:56.960 What are you studying?

05:41:58.160 Psych and brain.

05:41:59.120 Psych and what?

05:42:00.440 Brain science.

05:42:01.160 Brain science.

05:42:02.060 Okay.

05:42:02.280 What about you?

05:42:06.200 What are you up to?

05:42:09.160 I've been streaming full-time now for five years is what I've been doing.

05:42:13.480 Oh, okay.

05:42:14.320 Streaming on Twitch every day.

05:42:16.080 Nice.

05:42:16.920 What do you usually stream?

05:42:18.120 Really, what I like to do, it's a beautiful fusion of playing World of Warcraft and complaining

05:42:23.640 about politics.

05:42:25.000 We talked a lot about some of these issues and stuff.

05:42:28.340 Yeah.

05:42:28.400 But, uh...

05:42:29.060 I think, like, those raw conversations are so necessary.

05:42:33.500 Yeah.

05:42:34.000 Yeah, no doubt.

05:42:34.900 No, I think...

05:42:36.120 I guess, namely, I'm kind of speaking to young men in the audience and this audience or my

05:42:41.920 audience, because...

05:42:42.740 I'm just going to upgrade it.

05:42:44.200 I think a lot of people would acknowledge as sort of a young men's mental health epidemic.

05:42:47.980 No one really is giving a shit about young men.

05:42:49.720 I think every single young man...

05:42:50.860 This is the problem.

05:42:51.980 This is the reason why I hate young men, okay?

05:42:54.040 Or men in general.

05:42:54.860 I hate them.

05:42:56.080 Men are super eager to acknowledge, yeah, men's mental health, it's fucked up.

05:43:00.580 No one gives a fuck about us.

05:43:01.680 No one's talking about it.

05:43:02.700 But the second you start proposing some sort of solution, it's like, okay, well, you need

05:43:05.960 to be disciplined.

05:43:06.560 You need to stop smoking this, or drinking this, or jerking off to this, or doing...

05:43:10.440 Then it's like, oh, well, no, no.

05:43:12.920 It's like, well, listen, if you're going to acknowledge there is some sort of issue,

05:43:17.860 we have to actually get nitty-gritty and talk about ways to actually sort of rectify

05:43:20.940 these issues.

05:43:22.340 So, then you have guys like this angry Casper who gets mad about it.

05:43:26.660 Loser.

05:43:27.220 Angry Casper loser.

05:43:29.560 L.

05:43:30.340 L.

05:43:30.900 Angry Casper.

05:43:31.640 Sorry, I'm berating your chat right now.

05:43:33.920 Oh, okay.

05:43:34.620 Oh, by the way, we're going to lower...

05:43:36.980 Should I just fucking meme and lower the TTS to, like, ten bucks or something?

05:43:41.160 Dude, set it to one.

05:43:42.520 Oh, this one came through while we were gone.

05:43:45.840 Their Alamed Meatball donated $100.

05:43:49.220 Yo, gum guy.

05:43:50.860 Do you manufacture, or do you use a contract manufacturer?

05:43:55.240 Let me see.

05:43:55.900 Do you manufacture...

05:43:56.500 Oh, no, I have a manufacturer I work with.

05:43:58.100 Yeah, a U.S.-based manufacturer.

05:43:59.460 Two years ago, well, two and a half, I was shopping around.

05:44:03.240 I'm looking at Chinese manufacturers.

05:44:05.020 I'm looking at Canadian, Mexican.

05:44:06.960 I settled on U.S. because I...

05:44:09.860 Well, really, I just wanted to make it in the U.S.

05:44:13.000 If you make it in China, who knows if there's arsenic or rat poison in your gum.

05:44:17.180 Um, for the guy that said I'm a misandrist, apologize.

05:44:20.880 Here's the thing, like, with some of the takes I'm giving, I'm actually concerned that they're misogynistic.

05:44:26.900 That they're actually anti-woman because I tend to put more...

05:44:30.960 How can I put the agency or emphasis on the decision of men?

05:44:38.640 Which I think, I think maybe if you're, like, brain dead, that's like, yeah, you're hand-waving all of the female behavior.

05:44:44.580 But it's like, really, I'm just kind of putting extra emphasis on the behavior of men.

05:44:47.840 Uh, which is, like, maybe kind of misogynistic, maybe.

05:44:54.500 Am I a misogynist?

05:44:55.680 I come off as misogynistic to you.

05:44:57.900 Do you think?

05:45:00.740 You have yet to really show, like, major red flags?

05:45:03.960 Yeah.

05:45:04.340 Cool, that's great.

05:45:04.880 You're actually advocating sometimes for women?

05:45:06.980 Yeah, so I was like, slay, but...

05:45:08.880 Well, I'm like, this is one of the problems with the whole red pill sphere.

05:45:11.300 It's like, it's super, super...

05:45:13.480 Every man is super eager to blame women for all their problems,

05:45:15.960 but then they have 0% introspection and realizing that, okay, you know what,

05:45:20.380 I'm actually responsible for some of the ways that I am conducting myself,

05:45:23.800 but also the way in which society is evolving.

05:45:26.740 Men kind of need to, uh, who's that for?

05:45:29.360 Does anybody want, like, a kind of browning banana?

05:45:33.340 Anybody?

05:45:34.140 I'm all right, thank you.

05:45:35.160 Okay, just thought I'd offer.

05:45:36.920 Thank you.

05:45:37.580 And be a gentleman.

05:45:41.080 What did I miss?

05:45:42.620 Oh, yeah, I'm gonna, okay, yeah, yeah, I got it.

05:45:44.240 We're talking about why men suck.

05:45:45.960 Pretty much.

05:45:46.580 Okay.

05:45:47.620 So you guys, one of you goes to CC, one of you goes to UCSB.

05:45:52.860 And then it was, was it love at first sight?

05:45:56.120 When you met each other?

05:45:58.060 I mean, she has no real red flag.

05:45:59.980 She's, like, really the nicest person I've ever met.

05:46:02.260 So I'm, like, kind of happy I met her.

05:46:04.480 Wait, but I, like, said your protein powder thing.

05:46:07.020 I'm sorry.

05:46:07.580 Someone actually read in the chat, someone said that's really actually a green flag, so...

05:46:11.400 It is a green flag.

05:46:12.460 I just had to say something.

05:46:14.460 Yeah.

05:46:15.220 Have to make sure it's precise.

05:46:16.660 My fault.

05:46:18.160 Haram.

05:46:19.500 Okay, we're gonna make TTS...

05:46:21.500 We're gonna do TTS 10 and up if any of you psychos want to fucking just...

05:46:29.120 That might be a mistake, but we'll...

05:46:30.480 You said it to 10, you said?

05:46:31.560 $10 for TTS.

05:46:33.460 Let it rip.

05:46:34.120 What is TTS?

05:46:35.240 That's the text of speech when the robot...

05:46:37.180 Oh, so it's just gonna talk over it.

05:46:38.720 Oh, cool.

05:46:39.480 Yeah, by the way, I was disappointed in you because you did not hold, like, insane psycho status fucking icon or staring at me.

05:46:47.800 Oh, I can still do that if you want.

05:46:50.460 Oh, here we go.

05:46:51.100 Brandon Mills donated $10.

05:46:53.340 Oh, hey, my girl in blue came back for the after show.

05:46:57.140 Y'all gotta convince Brian to have me on the show.

05:47:00.280 Oh, shoot.

05:47:00.880 Should I come back and you join?

05:47:03.120 Brandon motherfucking Mills.

05:47:05.700 I'm also in purple, so we love a little colorblind.

05:47:08.740 Brandon, only $10?

05:47:10.040 When I first met you, it was $1,000.

05:47:12.180 Only $10, really?

05:47:13.260 Did you just meet him today?

05:47:14.680 Yeah, I met him today, and he was dropping $1,000 donos, and now he's dropped down to $10, so I'm like, uh, I don't know.

05:47:21.440 Only $10.

05:47:23.620 What do you guys think of the popcorn thing?

05:47:25.600 Is it kind of funny or is it kind of...

05:47:27.520 Wait, can you reiterate, though, the popcorn reference?

05:47:30.220 Yeah, I really...

05:47:30.980 I didn't get it.

05:47:31.540 Well, like, there's a bunch of memes where it's like someone's eating popcorn.

05:47:35.040 It's kind of like, oh, this is an entertaining moment.

05:47:38.800 Oh.

05:47:40.520 You know?

05:47:42.240 Yeah.

05:47:43.020 Popcorn's good, though.

05:47:44.500 Oh, shit.

05:47:45.700 Is it at least, like, buttered?

05:47:46.940 Yes, please.

05:47:47.640 Yes.

05:47:47.960 I was actually waiting for you.

05:47:49.500 Six hours here, we're kind of...

05:47:50.840 Put out your hands, like, needy children.

05:47:53.240 Children?

05:47:54.260 Like a little homeless?

05:47:56.280 Wait, hold on.

05:47:57.220 One second.

05:47:57.560 Their own meatball donated $10.

05:48:00.220 I'm here to support Brandon on it.

05:48:03.220 Yo, meatball.

05:48:03.940 Thank you, man.

05:48:06.180 What's that stupid, like, thing from...

05:48:09.340 Wait, we didn't get popcorn.

05:48:10.100 Thank you, sir.

05:48:10.900 Can I have another?

05:48:11.640 You just catfish me.

05:48:12.580 Oh, it's Pippi Longstocking or something?

05:48:15.300 Is that what it is?

05:48:15.580 Thank you, sir.

05:48:16.060 Can I have another?

05:48:17.640 I just want popcorn.

05:48:18.760 Okay, here.

05:48:19.320 Hold out your hands.

05:48:20.100 Go hands.

05:48:20.560 Go hands.

05:48:21.480 Wait, what the...

05:48:22.560 Just pour me some popcorn.

05:48:24.640 People like the popcorn, it seems like.

05:48:26.980 Okay.

05:48:27.420 Thank you.

05:48:28.240 Oh, my God.

05:48:28.820 It's okay.

05:48:29.580 Take out popcorn.

05:48:30.440 The table's clean.

05:48:31.100 Okay.

05:48:31.960 You can eat off the table.

05:48:33.220 I'm okay.

05:48:34.540 We need to make corn illegal.

05:48:36.840 Why?

05:48:37.680 Because, because, because, because that's why.

05:48:40.480 Corn syrup is making everyone fat and dumb.

05:48:43.460 Oh, I don't.

05:48:44.100 We got to get rid of it.

05:48:45.580 No, not corn.

05:48:46.600 Corn syrup.

05:48:47.440 Corn equals fat people.

05:48:49.360 We got to get rid of it.

05:48:50.820 I just think there's a lot of chemicals in our food.

05:48:54.280 True.

05:48:54.540 Brandon Mills donated $10.

05:48:56.940 I got to save some money for all the gum I'm trying to buy.

05:49:01.000 Also, yes, we should meet for the first time.

05:49:03.360 I live on the Whatever podcast.

05:49:06.100 Wait, can you screw your microphone a little that way?

05:49:09.860 Me?

05:49:10.340 Yeah, you.

05:49:10.840 Oh, am I giving, like, ASMR?

05:49:12.360 No, just so it's not blocking.

05:49:14.160 Oh, okay.

05:49:14.580 The mic is kind of blocking your friend's face there.

05:49:16.120 Oh.

05:49:16.980 Brandon's a nice guy.

05:49:19.120 I'm sorry.

05:49:19.700 Have you guys approved?

05:49:21.660 Trust or no?

05:49:23.420 Sure.

05:49:24.060 How was the stream?

05:49:26.080 Oh, okay.

05:49:27.260 Oh, wow.

05:49:27.500 Brandon Mills donated $10.

05:49:29.860 Brian, food for thought.

05:49:32.040 As a vet, people should never talk about their disability.

05:49:36.040 Above 30%, the ex-spouse can take it in divorce.

05:49:42.280 Wait.

05:49:42.880 Brian, food for thought.

05:49:45.460 As a vet, people should never talk about their disability.

05:49:47.460 Above 30%, the ex-spouse can take it in divorce.

05:49:51.340 Word?

05:49:54.800 People should never talk.

05:49:56.080 I mean, like, what if you're in a wheelchair and you need someone to build you a wheelchair

05:49:58.700 ramp or something?

05:49:59.420 Is he talking about me?

05:50:00.200 Because I complain about my neck and back all the time?

05:50:02.280 I don't know.

05:50:02.660 Oh.

05:50:03.020 What's wrong with your neck and back?

05:50:04.660 I got chronic neck and...

05:50:07.140 I have chronic neck and back pain.

05:50:09.040 Oh, no.

05:50:09.420 Have you ever tried anything?

05:50:11.720 Have I ever...

05:50:12.460 Excuse me.

05:50:13.400 Have I ever tried anything?

05:50:14.280 Like chiropractors?

05:50:15.900 Any physical...

05:50:16.780 I think chiropractors are quacks, to be honest, but...

05:50:20.160 You think they're quacks until they work?

05:50:22.380 I don't know.

05:50:23.200 I've heard some pretty...

05:50:24.200 Or they paralyze you.

05:50:25.700 Yeah, or they paralyze you.

05:50:27.160 I mean, at least you won't feel the neck pain anymore.

05:50:29.300 I suppose that's true.

05:50:30.380 That's one upside of paralysis.

05:50:33.040 Although, don't you just feel like...

05:50:34.800 Wait, question.

05:50:35.500 When you're paralyzed, is it like an absence of feeling, or do you feel like tingles where

05:50:43.520 your body was?

05:50:45.020 I think it depends on the extent...

05:50:47.120 I'm pretty sure you're like...

05:50:48.040 How far it is.

05:50:48.580 You still...

05:50:49.520 I'm pretty sure if you're paralyzed, you still feel your body, but you don't have control

05:50:56.480 over it, and it's painful, and you feel tingles.

05:51:00.120 I know your body makes phantom pains sometimes.

05:51:03.220 So it's like you almost forget that that limb's gone, and in your brain, make up that there

05:51:08.400 is pain there.

05:51:09.340 Can you show us...

05:51:10.580 Yeah, like phantom limb syndrome, ghost...

05:51:13.720 By the way, Nick, can you pull up the pop-out chat for YouTube?

05:51:19.840 Yeah.

05:51:23.320 I think you need to wear a diaper if you're paralyzed like that, probably.

05:51:28.620 I have no idea.

05:51:29.720 Colostomy bag?

05:51:30.820 Yeah, one of those.

05:51:32.220 Poor people.

05:51:33.700 That's rough.

05:51:34.360 Here, I want you guys to say, please, sir, can I have another?

05:51:38.780 I'm not British.

05:51:40.660 And I'll give you more popcorn.

05:51:42.200 I'm gonna offend a lot of British people.

05:51:44.220 I should have brought popcorn.

05:51:45.980 But what?

05:51:46.400 How come nobody believes that I'm wearing purple in the chat?

05:51:53.700 It's the lighting.

05:51:54.380 What does your shirt say, by the way?

05:51:55.700 Oh, okay.

05:51:56.380 It's blue.

05:51:56.880 It says, well, I was gonna...

05:51:58.080 Okay, keep in mind, I was gonna wear black, but...

05:52:00.660 Oh.

05:52:01.680 Don't you donate to $10?

05:52:04.140 No, it was mentioned earlier in a TTS.

05:52:07.260 But as disability, we get some $150 per 10% and $3,600, MoTax free.

05:52:14.980 How it works is all convoluted, so many stupid nuances.

05:52:21.420 That's gotta be rough.

05:52:22.460 That's gotta be really rough.

05:52:23.800 Oh, thank you.

05:52:25.560 Sorry to hear...

05:52:26.540 Is he saying he's disabled?

05:52:27.940 Yeah.

05:52:28.780 Sorry to hear that, man.

05:52:31.280 What war?

05:52:32.620 Or maybe it might not have even been a war, but...

05:52:35.660 Can you tell us the backstory, like, what happened, man?

05:52:39.260 Sorry to hear that, man.

05:52:42.020 Wait, what was your shirt saying?

05:52:44.500 Oh.

05:52:44.980 Sorry, I'm chewing.

05:52:46.560 Haram.

05:52:48.480 It says, give me a squeeze, and it has a lemon.

05:52:52.780 With a face on it.

05:52:53.820 Give me a squeeze?

05:52:55.580 She walked out of the room and was like, is this okay?

05:52:57.880 Well, because...

05:52:58.420 Okay, keep in mind, I'm just moving in.

05:53:00.760 Oh, thank you, man.

05:53:01.400 La ni ngu en blanco es una rosa.

05:53:04.640 I don't speak Spanish, so...

05:53:07.980 What does that mean?

05:53:08.880 What is it?

05:53:09.580 You said you.

05:53:11.980 I don't know the rest.

05:53:13.840 Oh.

05:53:14.980 I didn't see it.

05:53:16.040 I lost any Spanish I know.

05:53:17.820 Doña donated $10.

05:53:20.220 Marine Infantry.

05:53:21.800 Iraq.

05:53:22.220 What year?

05:53:26.600 That's some tough shit.

05:53:27.320 What year?

05:53:27.860 Was it like the beginning?

05:53:31.440 Because we were in Iraq for a while, weren't we?

05:53:33.320 We were there for a while.

05:53:33.840 I was out of Afghanistan.

05:53:34.600 I think we started with Iraq.

05:53:37.340 Well, we got out of Iraq, but then we were in Afghanistan.

05:53:40.540 Yeah, yeah, for a long time.

05:53:41.720 2003 to like 2000 and...

05:53:45.160 In the teens, I think we were in Iraq.

05:53:47.840 Like a decade.

05:53:49.460 But what was the Spanish one about?

05:53:52.080 Did you guys...

05:53:52.640 What was that?

05:53:53.200 Okay, I understood most of it until it said una rosa, which...

05:53:57.640 La niña en blanco.

05:53:59.280 Here, I'll try.

05:53:59.980 The girl in the white is a rose.

05:54:09.960 Like a flower.

05:54:10.840 Wow.

05:54:11.260 Like a flower.

05:54:12.200 All right.

05:54:12.800 Spit some game, guys.

05:54:14.980 Wait, okay, your shirt says...

05:54:16.460 What does it say?

05:54:17.300 Squeeze?

05:54:17.760 So, see how there's a lemon with a little face on it, and it's super happy?

05:54:21.100 Well, she's saying, give me a squeeze, because she's a lemon.

05:54:24.320 Oh.

05:54:24.660 She's a lemon, and she wants to be...

05:54:26.580 So, it says, give me a squeeze.

05:54:27.740 But is there like an innuendo there?

05:54:30.640 Well, she's a lemon.

05:54:31.520 You're supposed to squeeze them.

05:54:32.620 But it's like on your chest.

05:54:33.840 Like, is that an innuendo type of thing?

05:54:35.680 Like, it's on your chest.

05:54:36.320 It's technically above my chest, but like, it could be an innuendo.

05:54:40.300 It's the chest area, you know what I'm saying?

05:54:41.780 I'm talking about Miss Lemon over here.

05:54:43.460 It was her and Miss Lemon.

05:54:44.260 So, it's not like a...

05:54:45.040 What you're saying is, it's...

05:54:46.620 You're perverted.

05:54:48.540 No.

05:54:48.740 Or it's not perverted.

05:54:49.440 No, the lemon is...

05:54:51.880 Not me.

05:54:52.380 Let's talk about World of Warcraft.

05:54:53.460 Do you guys play World of Warcraft?

05:54:55.300 I've actually...

05:54:55.960 Oh, finally.

05:54:56.860 Until today.

05:54:57.600 I...

05:54:57.880 A lot of my cousins actually played it, but like, I...

05:54:59.960 I grew up watching them play it in like years, but I never played it because I wasn't allowed

05:55:04.620 to play video games until I got older.

05:55:08.160 Okay.

05:55:08.720 Well, you said you played D&D, right?

05:55:10.300 Dungeons & Dragons.

05:55:10.480 Yeah.

05:55:10.720 I'm a novice at D&D.

05:55:11.900 Keep in mind, I've only done two campaigns.

05:55:14.780 Two campaigns.

05:55:15.440 So, like, I'm new to the D&D world, so don't judge me.

05:55:18.540 Okay.

05:55:18.860 But like...

05:55:19.160 No judgment.

05:55:20.820 Good times.

05:55:21.620 I'm vibing with D&D, though.

05:55:22.560 She's vibing.

05:55:23.300 I started a new campaign on the first Sunday of August.

05:55:29.260 Okay.

05:55:29.860 Oh, interesting.

05:55:31.300 Yeah, Sophia will be back.

05:55:32.520 We'll have her back.

05:55:34.540 Interesting.

05:55:35.580 When I was 12 years old, I had this stepdad.

05:55:39.440 He was, like, tall.

05:55:40.660 He used to play football back in college.

05:55:42.280 He was kind of like a jock type of guy.

05:55:43.800 Nice guy, but...

05:55:45.080 Actually, I still like him.

05:55:46.160 Nice guy.

05:55:46.580 Okay, but we were at the bookstore, and I saw a D&D starter kit.

05:55:52.640 I was there with him, just the two of us, and I said, hey, can I buy this D&D starter

05:55:56.240 kit?

05:55:57.040 And he looked at me, and he went, just like, stone-cold face.

05:56:00.560 D&D, he said, no.

05:56:02.500 D&D is for fucking losers, is what he said.

05:56:06.060 Just stone-cold, and he moved on.

05:56:07.820 Good times.

05:56:08.460 And it's because, like, you know, when he was, like, a football kind of jock guy back

05:56:12.460 in the 80s when D&D was for nerds.

05:56:13.980 Brian is hard for Chadleff, donated $10.

05:56:16.880 Chadleff?

05:56:17.160 The popcorn is enjoyable.

05:56:19.260 Keep it up.

05:56:20.080 Thank you, man.

05:56:20.460 Also, I hope your neck is feeling better.

05:56:23.500 Has there been any progress?

05:56:25.460 Uh, it's, uh, in some ways, yes.

05:56:31.900 In other ways, uh, in other ways, no.

05:56:34.220 So, uh, still got some neck pain, some brain fog, some headache issues.

05:56:39.480 It kind of, sometimes it fluctuates.

05:56:41.840 Um, it's been, actually, my back's been bugging me more recently.

05:56:45.620 Probably sitting too much.

05:56:47.520 Okay, um, thank you, though, man.

05:56:49.400 Jason Wattala.

05:56:50.800 Uh, Matt, can you read this one?

05:56:53.520 Brian, my wife and I are actively trying to recruit a mini-me.

05:56:56.640 Oh, my God.

05:56:57.300 I've seen a few, but none with a dark beard yet.

05:56:59.440 We'll keep looking.

05:57:00.440 Dude, I almost got canceled last show, guys.

05:57:02.680 For what?

05:57:03.060 So, do you guys, I don't know if you guys are.

05:57:05.920 The incest talk wasn't enough.

05:57:07.700 Yeah.

05:57:08.700 Yeah.

05:57:08.980 Uh, we'll, we'll talk about that another time.

05:57:10.560 But, um, have you guys seen the Austin Powers?

05:57:12.580 Yes, I love Austin Powers.

05:57:13.540 Do you know mini-me?

05:57:14.560 Yes.

05:57:15.120 Do you know mini-me?

05:57:16.080 His little, like, boop.

05:57:17.740 So.

05:57:18.500 No.

05:57:19.400 I, I was doing a Dr. Evil impression last show.

05:57:24.460 Was it bad?

05:57:25.620 No, it's, my audience says it was pretty good.

05:57:28.860 Okay.

05:57:29.640 Here's the thing, though.

05:57:30.680 So, my chat was like, Brian, you need a mini-me.

05:57:34.020 And I said, oh, I actually do know a dwarf.

05:57:37.060 I do know a little person.

05:57:39.200 And then I said, but here's the problem.

05:57:40.920 Oh, my God.

05:57:41.280 I'm not going to, I can't repeat it.

05:57:42.800 But, okay, here's the thing, right?

05:57:44.100 Canceled times due.

05:57:44.660 He, he, he's a dwarf, but he, he's not white.

05:57:48.180 And, and I said, here's the problem, though.

05:57:51.240 He's X.

05:57:53.320 Not, not because I'll have, I'm, I'm, I'm open to all different types of people.

05:57:57.680 You know what I'm saying?

05:57:58.140 And, but I got, I kind of got clipped because I said, here's the problem, though.

05:58:03.440 He's blank group of people.

05:58:06.740 Oh.

05:58:07.860 Not because that's a problem.

05:58:09.520 Just a little out of context.

05:58:10.460 But you can't have a mini-me that's not like, mini-me is identical to you.

05:58:13.940 Why not, though?

05:58:14.600 That would have been funny.

05:58:15.560 Yeah.

05:58:15.820 That would have been 10 times funnier.

05:58:17.160 You should have.

05:58:17.580 You know what?

05:58:17.960 That's a good point.

05:58:19.380 Yeah.

05:58:19.680 You could be like, look, it's mini-me.

05:58:20.920 That's good.

05:58:21.360 And if anyone points it out, that's on them.

05:58:23.140 Yo, dude.

05:58:23.160 You know what?

05:58:23.920 I want to get Vern Troyer's ex-girlfriend on the show.

05:58:27.940 Because she did like some ex-

05:58:29.340 Okay, never mind.

05:58:30.180 What'd she do?

05:58:31.140 Let's not talk about that.

05:58:32.300 Okay.

05:58:32.780 Angry Casper, thank you for the New Zealand 20.

05:58:34.780 Do you want to get this one, Matt?

05:58:37.160 Probably wrong.

05:58:37.920 Wow, guy.

05:58:38.500 Who is Karen Strohan and who is Nora Vincent?

05:58:41.040 I'm not sure.

05:58:41.600 I don't know.

05:58:42.460 Karen Strohan's like a male advocate.

05:58:44.620 She's a woman, male advocate.

05:58:45.900 Nora Vincent is a woman who trans-

05:58:48.980 She didn't, she wasn't transgender.

05:58:51.280 I don't think she transitioned.

05:58:52.060 But she, she like dressed up like a man.

05:58:55.280 Like, so she wasn't transgender, but like wanted to live as a man as like some sort of experiment.

05:59:01.980 Okay.

05:59:02.280 And then she did that.

05:59:03.200 And then she found out it kind of sucked to be a man.

05:59:07.120 Oh, yeah.

05:59:07.360 And she actually ended up deleting herself.

05:59:09.240 Oh, really?

05:59:10.340 Because I guess people, I don't know what the true story is, but maybe because of like her experience as a man.

05:59:15.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:59:16.860 Thank you, man.

05:59:17.400 What's Brain SCI's ethnic background?

05:59:20.400 Your Austin powers sound like Donald Trump.

05:59:22.900 Wait, SCI's?

05:59:24.760 What's Brain SCI's ethnic background?

05:59:26.080 Brain sci?

05:59:26.400 What's Brain SCI's?

05:59:28.320 No.

05:59:29.360 Oh, Brain Sci.

05:59:30.500 Who does Brain Sci for your major?

05:59:32.720 Oh, you.

05:59:33.120 That's you.

05:59:33.460 Me, yeah.

05:59:33.820 Are you, what's your background?

05:59:35.040 I'm half Filipino, half white.

05:59:37.300 Really?

05:59:37.880 Yes.

05:59:38.400 I speak Spanish.

05:59:39.480 Do you speak, oh, I was going to ask if you speak Tagalog.

05:59:42.100 Oh, no, I'm writing.

05:59:42.780 You speak Spanish and we couldn't decode that earlier?

05:59:46.040 No, I didn't see it.

05:59:47.460 Ryan is hard for Chantliff donated $10.

05:59:51.020 Your impression of Dr. Evil is much better this week.

05:59:54.460 You sound a lot less like Trump than you did last time or two.

05:59:58.480 Have you been working on it?

06:00:00.780 You know, I've been practicing a little bit.

06:00:03.440 I really hope Brandon Mills comes in and drops $1 million.

06:00:09.280 Oh, fuck, I'm so cringe.

06:00:10.740 Okay, $1 million.

06:00:13.020 Oh, that was so bad.

06:00:14.460 That was so fucking cringe.

06:00:16.140 You got to make sure you're a little pink.

06:00:18.020 $1 million.

06:00:20.200 We're going to, we'll watch also.

06:00:21.640 Trust.

06:00:22.240 There's multiple of them.

06:00:23.500 Zip it.

06:00:25.340 Zip it.

06:00:26.280 Okay.

06:00:27.000 Is it like, I don't know, is it like a thing?

06:00:29.160 Have you ever watched like Live Action Cat and Hat?

06:00:29.820 My boyfriend always in for AIDS Trump.

06:00:31.460 Have you ever watched Live Action Cat and Hat?

06:00:32.560 Zip it, good.

06:00:33.640 Okay, Kate Robinson.

06:00:34.780 Y'all should come eat at the restaurant I work at.

06:00:37.040 Are you in Santa Barbara, Kate?

06:00:39.580 Is it Denny's?

06:00:40.520 Because there's not a lot of stuff that's open in Santa Barbara.

06:00:42.720 If your restaurant is hiring, can someone help me?

06:00:46.380 Like give me a recommendation?

06:00:47.760 Are you looking for a job?

06:00:48.980 Yeah, I just moved here two days ago.

06:00:51.820 You'll get a job.

06:00:52.840 I know.

06:00:53.600 There's so many places.

06:00:55.140 Chat, is there anything, any jobs at whatever enterprises that we can give her?

06:01:00.900 Is there any jobs for her?

06:01:04.380 Can you be a barista so you can learn how to make coffee?

06:01:06.880 Dude, I already know how to make coffee.

06:01:08.380 Oh, never mind.

06:01:09.180 The dude guy person should do a section of the show where the girls are trying to show

06:01:12.360 guys on how to have Riz.

06:01:14.360 Yo, yeah.

06:01:14.960 So I actually, I've been meaning to do this and I've been trying to let it come up organically.

06:01:18.940 Like if a girl's like, oh, it's pretty easy for like to get laid, we'll have Maddie pretend

06:01:22.820 to be the chick and then we'll have the girls try to pick up Maddie pretending to be a guy.

06:01:29.920 I've been meaning to do it the past two shows, but it hasn't come up organically, but I will

06:01:34.100 make an effort like as an actual dedicated segment to do it.

06:01:38.820 So, yeah.

06:01:40.020 Who are you voting for in this election?

06:01:42.960 Let's get deep into politics.

06:01:44.640 Oh my God.

06:01:44.880 I don't, I don't know.

06:01:46.100 Let's have a six hour political talk.

06:01:47.980 Wait, where did that come from?

06:01:49.380 My boyfriend's a poli-sci major.

06:01:49.840 Nowhere.

06:01:50.220 I'm just in the mood.

06:01:51.220 You're what?

06:01:51.880 My boyfriend's a poli-sci major.

06:01:54.200 Oh.

06:01:54.700 Political science.

06:01:55.120 So he likes having these talks.

06:01:56.700 Oh, okay.

06:01:57.820 But.

06:01:58.120 Good times.

06:01:58.780 Good times.

06:01:59.320 Yeah.

06:02:01.040 Yeah, I don't, I'm not who I'm voting for.

06:02:03.220 I don't know.

06:02:04.460 I don't know.

06:02:07.000 I'm not like a big poli-

06:02:08.160 Oh.

06:02:08.560 J-Man 973 donated $10.

06:02:13.940 Love the pod, Brixen.

06:02:15.320 What Botox Girl forgot to mention that when men take pets, they still have to work hard

06:02:20.140 for their desired physique versus women getting instant results with cosmetic surgery.

06:02:25.220 That's actually a really good point.

06:02:26.420 I don't think the plastic surgery comparison to taking steroids is an apt one because she

06:02:32.480 was saying, well, yeah, men do take steroids, but women like undergo plastic surgery.

06:02:36.540 I mean, even if you take steroids, you still have to work like incredibly hard to like

06:02:41.660 build a physique and like be disciplined with your working out and diet.

06:02:46.180 You are like to some degree cheating.

06:02:48.860 Let's, I don't know if it's considered cheating, but like you're not, it's not natural, but whereas

06:02:54.220 plastic surgery, like you can go in, in a day, boom, here's like a fake butt.

06:02:59.800 Here's fake tits.

06:03:00.700 Here's lipo.

06:03:01.960 So it's not, I don't think it's an approach.

06:03:05.760 It's not like a really compelling argument or comparison.

06:03:10.480 So thank you, man.

06:03:11.920 We have Kate Robinson.

06:03:13.800 It's NorCal.

06:03:15.700 Ooh, RIP, San Francisco.

06:03:17.580 Aren't you guys from NorCal?

06:03:19.060 I'm from NorCal.

06:03:20.100 RIP, San Francisco.

06:03:20.280 That's why I was like, where is Brandon from?

06:03:21.500 I'm so sorry to hear that.

06:03:22.340 Because I'm from the Sacramento area.

06:03:25.040 Where are you from?

06:03:26.220 Yeah, where are you from originally?

06:03:27.040 Well, I was born in France and then I moved.

06:03:28.920 You're French?

06:03:29.340 Really?

06:03:30.060 Oui, oui.

06:03:30.800 Do you speak French?

06:03:33.180 From the oui, oui, it was kind of.

06:03:35.260 Do you speak French?

06:03:36.420 Because we could have a conversation.

06:03:37.720 No, I've never been to France.

06:03:40.660 I don't speak it, I don't speak it fluently, but I understand it fairly well and I'd say

06:03:44.960 I'm conversational.

06:03:46.620 What age did you move here?

06:03:47.800 When I was five.

06:03:48.740 Oh, okay.

06:03:49.520 So English is my second language.

06:03:52.280 Yep.

06:03:53.520 But, yeah.

06:03:55.180 Do you speak French?

06:03:58.680 Do you speak French?

06:04:00.040 Dude, I barely speak English.

06:04:01.320 Do you speak Spanish?

06:04:02.360 Nope.

06:04:03.100 Oh, yeah.

06:04:03.580 Just English.

06:04:04.280 Okay.

06:04:04.480 Just English.

06:04:05.180 I know.

06:04:06.100 Sorry, guys.

06:04:07.560 I've lost all Spanish, I know.

06:04:09.480 Blitzkrieg, Lufthansa, Luftwaffe.

06:04:13.060 What?

06:04:16.280 Is that?

06:04:17.420 No, it's German.

06:04:18.480 I have a question.

06:04:19.000 It is German.

06:04:19.680 I mean, it's poorly pronounced German.

06:04:20.500 I have to learn German now because my wife is German and half our family is living in

06:04:24.380 Germany.

06:04:25.140 Were you guys trying to match?

06:04:28.000 No, we met playing World of Warcraft.

06:04:30.740 Oh, wait.

06:04:31.440 That's kind of goals.

06:04:32.540 Oh, I meant like your clothing.

06:04:34.480 Oh, my God.

06:04:36.080 No, we met playing World of Warcraft.

06:04:38.180 Oh, never mind.

06:04:38.740 Well, he wore this last time.

06:04:41.040 I wore this last time, I think.

06:04:42.980 Actually, I don't know if I had the different red one.

06:04:45.060 In any case, you know, I was looking at my various collection of flannels that I have

06:04:50.280 and I wanted to, I picked the red because I was like, we're the only two men at this

06:04:56.880 table.

06:04:57.220 We need to be a unified front and which better way to do that than to look, to dress similarly-ish.

06:05:05.100 Where's your hat?

06:05:05.800 Yeah, you forgot the hat.

06:05:07.080 Here, I got a fucking one hat.

06:05:08.380 In the bald spot.

06:05:09.320 I got you, girl.

06:05:10.580 Boom.

06:05:11.520 Fedora.

06:05:12.460 Check that shit out.

06:05:13.900 Boom.

06:05:14.540 Now, you need to use the English accent.

06:05:16.400 Here's a serious question.

06:05:18.020 Would you date a dude who wore a fedora?

06:05:20.420 This is a trilby, I think.

06:05:22.980 Who, me?

06:05:26.180 Who?

06:05:27.240 No, because you live in Rancho.

06:05:29.840 I live like-

06:05:31.180 Where'd you go to school?

06:05:32.100 Wait, I-

06:05:32.700 I, ooh, I'm from like a small town, so it's like, I doubt he wants to go.

06:05:37.060 And if you did, I'm so sorry if you went to school with me.

06:05:40.880 I don't want to disclose like the town I'm from, because it's kind of small.

06:05:43.920 Okay, I got-

06:05:44.460 Here, can you wear this fedora, please?

06:05:46.800 Just know it's close to like Roseville.

06:05:48.460 Put the fedora on.

06:05:51.720 Actually, that's a good look.

06:05:52.800 I like it.

06:05:53.360 You look like a D&D player.

06:05:56.380 I look like a D&D player.

06:05:57.080 Like Lemony Snicket or something.

06:05:59.640 Oh my gosh.

06:06:00.140 So, I don't actually play World of Warcraft.

06:06:03.080 I, back when Classic came out, zip it.

06:06:07.500 Sorry.

06:06:08.320 Zip it good.

06:06:09.320 Okay.

06:06:10.500 When Classic came out, I played for about eight, eight months, nine months.

06:06:16.260 I quit in April of 2020, so it was right before AQ came out.

06:06:21.840 It was after the Emerald Dragons.

06:06:24.000 Was it the Nightmare Dragons?

06:06:24.820 What server were you on?

06:06:25.560 I don't know if I want to disclose my server.

06:06:28.080 Okay, you got to tell me afterwards, okay.

06:06:29.280 I'll tell you after.

06:06:29.940 So, I quit right before AQ, like two weeks after ZG and the Nightmare Dragons or whatever

06:06:38.640 came out.

06:06:40.260 So, I played Rogue, Main, Warrior, Alt, and then I had like a Mage and a Warlock, so thank

06:06:46.160 you, man.

06:06:46.700 We have Cappadocia here.

06:06:48.500 Wait, actually, can you take the hat off?

06:06:51.300 No.

06:06:52.000 It actually, like, it kind of, I mean, it's a nerdy hat, but it actually kind of fits

06:06:55.800 you.

06:06:56.220 You know, like, chat, do you agree?

06:06:57.740 I have a big head, though.

06:06:58.740 So, hats.

06:06:59.800 I wear a lot of beanies.

06:07:02.400 I don't really wear hats.

06:07:03.920 God isn't real.

06:07:05.080 You have to be a fucking moron to believe in God.

06:07:08.640 I've got my Reddit source here for you.

06:07:11.500 It's the gun.

06:07:12.100 I'm going to go back to you.

06:07:13.460 Okay.

06:07:13.820 Yeah, the caffeine.

06:07:14.760 Wait.

06:07:15.340 Oh, the caffeine.

06:07:16.880 Just because your hair's been pulled back this entire show, could you do, like, have

06:07:20.500 you ever seen those movie scenes or, like, TV scenes where, like, it's in slow-mo and

06:07:26.980 it's, like, focused on the girl and she, like, takes out her hair and just, like.

06:07:31.400 So, here's the issue with that.

06:07:32.980 So, because we're at the beach, like, I put my hair back.

06:07:35.360 It's gelled.

06:07:36.220 So, if I take it out, it's just going to be, like, gel and then the bottom part.

06:07:40.480 So, it's going to look kind of funny.

06:07:42.800 If I take it out, it's not going to be, like, a satisfying flow.

06:07:45.960 It's going to be, like, crinkle, crinkle, flow.

06:07:48.000 That could be actually very funny.

06:07:50.100 Can you do it anyways?

06:07:51.740 How much money are you going to give me?

06:07:53.840 I just gave it, bro.

06:07:54.800 Did you see all that popcorn I gave you, girl?

06:07:56.340 What's up?

06:07:56.580 Dude, that's, like, 50 cents, bro.

06:07:56.940 And look at the mess you guys made.

06:07:58.100 You guys are very messy.

06:07:59.240 Give me 100 bucks and I'll do it.

06:08:01.240 Bro, 100?

06:08:02.420 You're a negotiator.

06:08:03.660 I know, dude.

06:08:05.160 Good for you.

06:08:06.460 Because I don't want to have to put it back up.

06:08:09.440 You're about to go to the poem and shower and sleep.

06:08:12.340 Yeah, but then I just have to, like, look like a lion on the internet.

06:08:15.840 And that's out there forever.

06:08:17.500 Just do.

06:08:19.280 I want to look like a lion.

06:08:21.100 You know how many memes I could be made with?

06:08:22.580 Look like a lion.

06:08:23.800 Fail.

06:08:24.560 D&D is a game for creative thinkers and it upsets those who are not as,

06:08:28.080 requires finding creative solutions to extremely unusual problems.

06:08:31.240 Have Lemon Squeezy run the whatever Twitch D&D game.

06:08:34.240 Oh, okay.

06:08:34.600 Okay, we are going to have Madison start streaming on Twitch,

06:08:37.240 so maybe we can get you roped in.

06:08:39.420 Oh, for D&D?

06:08:40.480 Dude, I'll play D&D with Madison.

06:08:41.680 Like, stream.

06:08:42.460 You need more than one.

06:08:43.260 Stream D&D.

06:08:43.640 I don't know.

06:08:44.540 Thank you, Cappadocio, for the recommendation.

06:08:47.260 For D&D.

06:08:48.380 What was the last thing?

06:08:49.500 Okay, let's talk about World of Warcraft for, like, three minutes

06:08:51.520 and then let's wrap up.

06:08:52.720 Okay, dude.

06:08:53.960 Okay, so the hardcore announcement came up

06:08:56.620 and I want you guys to be very, very interested

06:08:58.600 in what we're about to say.

06:08:59.640 I'm so interested.

06:09:00.700 I'm very interested.

06:09:01.600 Nope.

06:09:01.760 The official Maya donated $15.13.

06:09:05.580 Thank you, man.

06:09:06.040 Hey, Brian, Matt, and the girls.

06:09:08.400 Great show tonight and fantastic debates.

06:09:11.520 I also DMD you to franchise at whatever in Canada, Vancouver.

06:09:15.960 Come here and let's get everything set up

06:09:18.200 and start printing cash, bro.

06:09:19.840 Good night and thanks for all your guys' participation.

06:09:25.620 Yo, Mayur.

06:09:27.360 Thank you, man.

06:09:27.960 Yeah, I've been sitting on, like, a bunch of...

06:09:30.740 I'm backlogged on DMs.

06:09:32.580 Like, I get, like, 100-plus DMs a week.

06:09:37.080 I'm super backlogged.

06:09:39.860 I saved some of the more, like, actual ones

06:09:43.320 that I want to respond to I haven't gotten to yet.

06:09:46.040 But, yeah, the whole franchise thing,

06:09:48.340 it is something that's kind of on the back burner.

06:09:51.180 I mean, and obviously, like, I don't know if I was super...

06:09:54.080 super direct with it,

06:09:58.680 but if I was going to, like, franchise whatever

06:10:00.800 and set up fight club status in different locations,

06:10:04.600 it's, like, mid-six-figure.

06:10:07.380 It'd be a mid-six-figure investment from the person.

06:10:10.600 Brian, you deserve all of the support you've gotten tonight.

06:10:14.220 You put in a lot and it doesn't go unnoticed.

06:10:16.880 Thank you, man.

06:10:17.400 Much love.

06:10:18.420 It's been fun shooting the shit with Yarl.

06:10:21.360 Yo, Brandon, first off, man,

06:10:23.880 thank you so much for the...

06:10:26.880 your insane fucking support tonight.

06:10:29.680 It was overwhelming.

06:10:31.120 Thank you so much, dude.

06:10:32.760 It means the world.

06:10:34.840 The podcast, it's been...

06:10:37.000 I don't know if we kind of got shadow banned,

06:10:38.800 but, like, the viewership's been a little bit lower.

06:10:41.940 Brian is hard for Chantliff donated $10.

06:10:45.500 Some of the panel reminded me of Leela and her ally,

06:10:48.760 Catherine, debating destiny.

06:10:51.300 They interrupted and distracted way more than making any real points.

06:10:55.680 I'm conservative and pro-life,

06:10:57.580 but I felt like they failed to be good representatives.

06:11:01.320 THX for what you do.

06:11:04.300 Yeah, tonight's panel was a little frustrating.

06:11:06.240 I mean, I think she was a little bit bad faith with a couple of her arguments.

06:11:11.580 No hard feelings.

06:11:12.640 I definitely got a little heated there in a couple moments,

06:11:15.460 but it was just like,

06:11:17.140 maybe I could have done a better job, like,

06:11:19.580 articulating my points and made stronger arguments,

06:11:21.960 but it was just like...

06:11:23.840 And maybe I take maybe a little responsibility.

06:11:26.320 I should have had better arguments prepared

06:11:28.420 because, to me, some of this shit is just, like,

06:11:31.160 self-evident, like, it seems self-evident,

06:11:33.700 but, like, to other people,

06:11:34.600 you actually have to, like, lay out, like,

06:11:36.200 really compelling arguments,

06:11:37.820 and maybe I failed in doing that.

06:11:41.100 So, yeah.

06:11:42.400 But just bringing it back to Brandon,

06:11:44.320 I forgot what I was saying,

06:11:45.980 but I think I was just saying

06:11:47.160 thank you so much for your support and patronage,

06:11:50.440 and, yeah, it's been, I don't know,

06:11:55.360 I think, I don't know,

06:11:57.040 I don't think we got shadow banned.

06:11:58.220 I just think, like, the fucking,

06:12:00.540 I did the thing with Destiny,

06:12:02.420 and then I did an emergency meeting,

06:12:04.000 and then we had a scuffed show

06:12:05.540 where the chicks, like, showed up and sabotaged,

06:12:08.120 and so we didn't put on a show,

06:12:09.820 and it's like, you really,

06:12:10.900 and I took a break,

06:12:12.260 so I think, like, you really need to have,

06:12:15.380 if it wasn't for my fucking back-and-neck stuff, guys,

06:12:17.760 I'm telling you,

06:12:18.320 I would be doing three fucking shows a week,

06:12:20.160 no breaks, non-stop,

06:12:21.740 but, like, I needed some time to recuperate

06:12:23.840 because of my chronic pain issues, so.

06:12:26.900 Have you considered becoming an opiate addict

06:12:29.380 to help manage your pain?

06:12:32.640 You know what?

06:12:33.180 I actually did contemplate, like,

06:12:35.540 hmm, like, do I,

06:12:36.820 on the show days,

06:12:38.760 do I consider taking, like,

06:12:40.900 something to, like, help me get through it

06:12:43.220 so I can be more consistent,

06:12:44.660 and I can, like, stay in the game longer?

06:12:47.480 I've thought about it,

06:12:48.460 but I'm kind of one of these guys

06:12:51.320 that, like, really tough shit out,

06:12:52.660 like, I won't, like,

06:12:54.840 I probably should take painkillers.

06:12:57.240 Not, like, that's how bad my pain is,

06:12:58.660 but, like, I'm just, like,

06:13:00.360 I don't even like to take Tylenol or Ibuprofen,

06:13:03.400 so, in any case, but.

06:13:05.840 Can I ask why?

06:13:06.740 What do you mean?

06:13:07.440 Like.

06:13:07.700 Well, I mean, there's, like,

06:13:08.660 okay, so you, with painkillers,

06:13:10.400 like, they're very addictive,

06:13:13.400 and if you get addicted,

06:13:14.840 then you can get,

06:13:16.580 getting off of them is super hard,

06:13:18.500 and withdrawals are insane,

06:13:19.680 so I'm, like,

06:13:21.220 I've always been a guy

06:13:22.080 that's kind of, like,

06:13:22.660 not huge on taking medicine.

06:13:24.360 I, like, as,

06:13:25.440 I'll try to avoid even taking Tylenol and Ibuprofen.

06:13:27.860 Like, I don't like taking pills,

06:13:29.400 taking medicine.

06:13:30.340 I don't even like drinking alcohol, really.

06:13:33.460 Cheers, Brandon.

06:13:35.740 But, by the way,

06:13:36.920 we have a,

06:13:37.380 I actually was fucking kind of tipsy

06:13:39.680 after drinking, like,

06:13:41.360 a little bit of fucking champagne, so.

06:13:46.040 Good times, good times.

06:13:47.480 Okay, World of Warcraft,

06:13:48.580 then let's get out of here.

06:13:49.300 Okay, so, Hardcore came out.

06:13:52.260 Here, do you want a hat

06:13:53.500 while we talk about this?

06:13:54.540 Me or you?

06:13:55.900 Either one of you.

06:13:56.440 I don't know, I think you look good in the hat.

06:13:57.320 You do the honors.

06:14:00.360 Okay, there's a couple things

06:14:01.300 I want to talk about.

06:14:02.460 Um, Petri flasks.

06:14:04.580 What the fuck?

06:14:06.140 You're anti-Petri?

06:14:08.420 Yeah, like,

06:14:09.780 I, it's just like,

06:14:11.680 I don't think it's good.

06:14:13.820 Yeah, they're lame.

06:14:14.840 Where do you stand on the Petri thing?

06:14:16.320 I hate them.

06:14:17.460 I'm against Petri flasks.

06:14:19.280 Yeah, no, if you're,

06:14:20.100 if you're in Molten Core

06:14:20.820 and you suck,

06:14:21.400 then you should die.

06:14:22.660 I, I would be more in favor

06:14:23.840 of Bubble Hearth

06:14:24.520 than Petri.

06:14:26.000 Just get, get rid of both of them.

06:14:27.540 Get them both out, right?

06:14:28.940 Yeah.

06:14:29.140 We don't like Bubble Hearthing, right?

06:14:30.540 Bubble Hearthing is lame.

06:14:31.460 Petri flask is lame.

06:14:32.700 We don't like it.

06:14:33.300 Exactly, what I was thinking.

06:14:34.020 Yeah.

06:14:34.480 I don't think the trail bee is,

06:14:36.780 I don't think it's a good look.

06:14:37.860 Just being honest.

06:14:38.700 Just put it over there.

06:14:40.780 No, I don't think.

06:14:41.720 That's messed up.

06:14:42.100 Yeah, I don't know.

06:14:42.700 It's just,

06:14:43.100 I don't think it's a good look

06:14:43.840 on anybody, to be honest.

06:14:45.240 Yeah, that's true.

06:14:45.960 Actually, you can wear it.

06:14:47.120 Yeah, you look good.

06:14:48.080 You can burn it if you want.

06:14:49.480 Oh, oh.

06:14:50.820 I don't,

06:14:51.320 I don't look good in hats.

06:14:53.040 Nemesis donated $13.38.

06:14:56.540 Excuse the interruption, boss.

06:14:59.200 07 to stay safe.

06:15:02.180 Can I ask what 07 means?

06:15:03.560 Archer, I do.

06:15:04.460 Oh, 07, like,

06:15:05.700 it's a 0 and a 7,

06:15:06.980 so think of it as a face

06:15:08.080 and then a hand.

06:15:09.240 So it's doing a salute.

06:15:12.140 07's in the chat, guys.

06:15:13.440 07's in,

06:15:14.060 you'll see it.

06:15:14.880 07 in the chat.

06:15:15.940 Yeah, okay, now I understand.

06:15:16.920 Archer, I have one.

06:15:18.040 I don't know.

06:15:18.140 Oh, I see it, okay.

06:15:20.840 Girl in white's fine.

06:15:22.500 Oh, shit, Lonnie's hitting you up.

06:15:24.440 She has a boyfriend, though, sorry.

06:15:25.600 There are a meatball donated $10.

06:15:28.960 Why was my shit

06:15:29.960 when it first came out

06:15:31.160 when I was 12?

06:15:32.060 What is a Petri Flask?

06:15:34.480 And are there PvP servers

06:15:36.060 so rogues can just gank

06:15:37.620 and destroy you?

06:15:39.760 Not for hardcore.

06:15:41.960 Petri Flask,

06:15:43.040 that's like a...

06:15:46.520 It basically makes you immune

06:15:48.780 to any damage for, what,

06:15:50.800 60 seconds?

06:15:51.620 Yep.

06:15:52.340 And you can just...

06:15:53.360 The thing with the Petri Flask

06:15:54.320 is you can just like...

06:15:55.580 There's no cooldown on them, right?

06:15:56.860 So you can...

06:15:58.280 There's a...

06:15:59.280 What's...

06:16:00.800 There's a term for this.

06:16:01.620 But you can like

06:16:02.380 leave your dungeon group

06:16:03.500 and then there's something called...

06:16:04.840 What's it called?

06:16:05.280 The port?

06:16:05.880 We call it Ghetto Hearth.

06:16:06.840 Ghetto Hearth.

06:16:08.200 So after a few seconds,

06:16:09.380 once you leave your group,

06:16:10.600 there's a countdown

06:16:11.820 and you can hearth

06:16:13.280 or it'll send you back.

06:16:15.240 So it's basically like a...

06:16:16.760 What?

06:16:17.320 Is it funny that we're talking about?

06:16:18.180 I'm sorry.

06:16:18.880 This guy was in chat

06:16:19.740 spamming that I'm a liberal.

06:16:21.660 I don't know why it's so funny.

06:16:22.840 Oh, okay.

06:16:23.660 Like seven times in a row.

06:16:25.280 Okay, anyway.

06:16:26.000 I'm sorry.

06:16:26.580 Petri Hearth.

06:16:27.420 Yeah.

06:16:28.200 Laktar Ogar.

06:16:29.180 Yo, Rotendo.

06:16:29.960 Thank you for the super chat there.

06:16:34.040 Oh, we had this one.

06:16:35.820 Noob Master Australian.

06:16:37.680 Can you read this one, Matt?

06:16:39.900 Yeah, it says here.

06:16:40.680 I'm a quadriplegic incomplete.

06:16:43.360 I feel my entire body touch only,

06:16:46.240 but I can't feel hot or cold in pain.

06:16:48.540 It's kind of a superpower in a way.

06:16:50.880 So incomplete is like...

06:16:53.100 I'm not up to speed

06:16:54.280 with all the paralyzed terminology.

06:16:57.720 I don't know.

06:16:58.680 Okay.

06:16:59.400 I feel my entire body.

06:17:00.520 Okay, interesting.

06:17:03.140 Anyway, it's got to be so rough.

06:17:05.040 Do you want to read this one?

06:17:06.000 So rough.

06:17:06.420 Can you read it?

06:17:07.120 I can read.

06:17:07.960 Yeah, go ahead.

06:17:08.400 It says you are balding

06:17:09.720 because of the hats.

06:17:10.900 They rub hair off.

06:17:13.060 How do you feel?

06:17:15.900 Actually, I'm wearing a hat too.

06:17:17.540 I'm up.

06:17:18.260 I feel targeted.

06:17:19.040 Pretendo, Laktar, Ogar.

06:17:21.160 Thank you for the super chat.

06:17:23.360 Appreciate it, man.

06:17:24.360 Okay.

06:17:25.320 Petri, non-favor.

06:17:27.040 The ears thing.

06:17:29.000 Are they going to boost it to 19?

06:17:30.940 It's 19.

06:17:31.860 It's 19, yeah.

06:17:33.040 Okay.

06:17:34.500 I think that's better,

06:17:36.040 but I think they should make it...

06:17:37.560 It should be even higher.

06:17:38.240 I think it should be 60.

06:17:40.160 Yeah.

06:17:40.740 Why not?

06:17:41.260 It should be 60.

06:17:41.400 But I mean,

06:17:43.140 you could say like

06:17:44.320 if someone engaged

06:17:45.000 like two 59s dueled,

06:17:48.960 that should...

06:17:49.580 I think that should earn a mirror.

06:17:50.960 You know what I've seen

06:17:51.480 that's cool is some streamers...

06:17:52.700 I saw Guzu is doing this

06:17:53.900 in Savix.

06:17:55.020 It's every time they level,

06:17:56.640 they do a Makara.

06:17:58.020 Level 1, level 2, level 3,

06:17:59.360 they dueled with death.

06:18:00.080 I saw that.

06:18:00.800 That's actually a really cool idea.

06:18:01.840 That's pretty cool.

06:18:02.420 I want to steal that idea.

06:18:03.600 That's a really cool idea.

06:18:04.100 You should do it.

06:18:04.640 You should do it.

06:18:05.380 You wink.

06:18:06.680 Yo, do you think Peo

06:18:07.560 kind of got like scuffed in that...

06:18:09.120 Did you see the duels?

06:18:09.860 Bro, we can't talk about that.

06:18:13.400 No, no, no.

06:18:15.100 The...

06:18:15.540 I know.

06:18:16.340 I know.

06:18:16.840 We're not allowed to...

06:18:17.500 We can't even talk about that?

06:18:18.460 I can't talk about it.

06:18:20.080 What do you...

06:18:20.380 Okay, listen.

06:18:21.640 You ladies,

06:18:22.760 did Peo get robbed

06:18:24.140 in the duel tournament?

06:18:25.020 Just yes or no?

06:18:28.760 Yes.

06:18:29.400 I must say no.

06:18:30.680 Yes.

06:18:31.360 No.

06:18:32.100 There you have it.

06:18:33.500 There's the conclusive answer, okay?

06:18:35.660 What tournament?

06:18:36.920 There you go.

06:18:37.300 No, that's all.

06:18:37.940 That's all we needed to hear.

06:18:38.960 Oh, okay.

06:18:40.740 That's all we needed to hear.

06:18:42.740 I actually,

06:18:43.400 I'm not a fan of the hat on you either.

06:18:44.880 That's what I'm saying.

06:18:45.940 I don't think hats...

06:18:47.540 This hat in general

06:18:48.660 is just good on anyone.

06:18:50.860 But he had that like level 58 pet

06:18:53.060 or whatever.

06:18:53.780 Like, I...

06:18:54.480 That was...

06:18:55.040 It threw him out the straw.

06:18:56.580 You're trying so hard.

06:18:57.840 Listen, this is big drama.

06:18:58.980 This is hot drama right now.

06:19:01.260 Is it?

06:19:01.800 Yeah, I got...

06:19:02.360 Listen, I got to be a good boy.

06:19:03.520 I'm a...

06:19:03.860 Wait, was the drama related

06:19:05.380 to the duel tournament?

06:19:06.040 Yeah, it was.

06:19:06.760 It was.

06:19:07.940 Kind of.

06:19:08.500 Did you compete in it?

06:19:09.560 No, I didn't.

06:19:10.380 No, I didn't.

06:19:10.880 Oh, I didn't know it was related

06:19:12.060 to the duel tournament.

06:19:12.980 It's all kind of loosely related.

06:19:14.720 Okay, I thought it was fair game.

06:19:15.800 In any case,

06:19:16.420 so we'll move on from that.

06:19:18.100 But okay.

06:19:19.000 I'm a big guy.

06:19:19.920 The other thing with...

06:19:21.160 What was the other thing

06:19:21.880 with hardcore?

06:19:23.700 Trading.

06:19:24.780 Oh, yeah, yeah.

06:19:26.020 So like a level...

06:19:27.220 You know what?

06:19:27.820 I don't know if it's that bad,

06:19:29.860 but like...

06:19:30.060 I love it.

06:19:30.400 I love it.

06:19:30.920 A level 60, right,

06:19:32.280 could then trade to like a level one.

06:19:34.120 Like, you've seen that Asimus video

06:19:36.780 where it's like,

06:19:37.920 okay, here's a bunch of potions.

06:19:39.320 Here's some enchanted gear.

06:19:40.820 Here's like a fucking dagger

06:19:42.560 with fiery or whatever.

06:19:44.920 Giving, like basically fucking

06:19:46.480 decking out like a level one.

06:19:48.940 I love that.

06:19:50.300 You're in favor of that?

06:19:51.360 Yeah, I mean, like if I farm

06:19:52.680 all that stuff on my main

06:19:53.640 hardcore character,

06:19:54.340 I give it to my level one.

06:19:55.220 Who cares?

06:19:56.280 So I think it would be okay

06:19:58.920 if it's like your alt.

06:20:01.120 Yeah.

06:20:01.280 You leveled to 60 legit.

06:20:03.140 Yeah.

06:20:03.720 And then you just want

06:20:05.120 to level an alt.

06:20:06.720 And I get that,

06:20:07.720 but I think like,

06:20:08.480 what about someone

06:20:09.280 who's got friends on a server

06:20:10.720 and they come in,

06:20:12.320 they've never leveled hardcore

06:20:13.460 and then their friend

06:20:14.940 just gives them all this stuff.

06:20:17.680 They're not really getting...

06:20:18.940 You know, I love that even more.

06:20:20.900 And the reason why

06:20:21.680 is because...

06:20:22.820 Because you're a streamer?

06:20:23.800 No, the reason why is

06:20:24.860 if you're a fresh level one,

06:20:25.980 you've never done hardcore before,

06:20:27.180 someone, your friend,

06:20:27.960 or maybe you buy gold, okay?

06:20:29.260 Oh, sorry.

06:20:29.680 Whatever it is.

06:20:31.220 You suck.

06:20:31.940 You're going to die.

06:20:33.240 Like 99% of people

06:20:34.540 die on hardcore

06:20:35.040 and most people

06:20:35.600 never even make it to 60.

06:20:36.580 Very true.

06:20:37.340 So it's,

06:20:37.880 we call it a gold sink.

06:20:39.320 Like they are removing

06:20:40.280 that gold from the game,

06:20:41.860 from circulation.

06:20:43.100 That's an economic plus

06:20:44.500 in my opinion.

06:20:45.140 So if noobs are buying gold

06:20:46.640 or getting handouts

06:20:47.380 and they die,

06:20:47.960 then cool.

06:20:48.900 Oh yeah,

06:20:50.500 because okay,

06:20:51.060 yeah,

06:20:51.260 like once,

06:20:52.160 if you do die

06:20:52.920 with that gear,

06:20:53.860 like...

06:20:53.940 It's all gone.

06:20:54.560 That is a good point.

06:20:55.540 The gold value is totally gone.

06:20:56.960 That is a good point.

06:20:59.120 Although,

06:20:59.560 couldn't you say,

06:21:00.420 for example,

06:21:00.900 like don't you think

06:21:01.700 a lot of people

06:21:02.300 when it comes to the gold,

06:21:03.320 what they'll do is,

06:21:04.300 like instead of like

06:21:05.520 keeping the gold

06:21:07.420 on their raiding character

06:21:09.720 or like their leveling character,

06:21:11.280 they'll mail it.

06:21:13.960 We'll talk about that.

06:21:14.440 What's the most attractive

06:21:15.540 and unattractive class?

06:21:18.120 Let's get to that here

06:21:18.820 in a second.

06:21:20.480 I think most of the time

06:21:21.640 people buy gold

06:21:22.240 because they want to spend it

06:21:23.240 on something

06:21:23.620 that's on their character.

06:21:24.520 They want to buy

06:21:24.960 a Lionheart helmet,

06:21:25.620 they want to buy a mount,

06:21:26.360 they want to buy

06:21:26.900 whatever, right?

06:21:28.620 Summon chance.

06:21:29.800 You could have a case

06:21:30.800 where like,

06:21:31.160 I'm going to buy 1,000 gold,

06:21:32.060 I'm going to then

06:21:32.600 spend 1,000 gold

06:21:33.640 on a bunch of flasks

06:21:35.020 and put them on my bank alt.

06:21:36.860 Wait,

06:21:37.280 just let me interrupt you

06:21:38.100 really quick.

06:21:38.900 Girls,

06:21:39.160 I want you looking at us

06:21:40.400 and just like nodding your head

06:21:41.920 like we totally understand

06:21:43.420 what you guys are saying.

06:21:44.320 No,

06:21:44.540 I'm just,

06:21:45.040 I'm phasing out

06:21:45.980 because it's so interesting.

06:21:46.940 I'm loving it.

06:21:48.980 Yeah.

06:21:49.380 Pot of gold.

06:21:50.400 It did not mean

06:21:51.160 to cut you off.

06:21:51.780 That's all I've got

06:21:52.600 in a bubble heart thing,

06:21:53.800 pot of gold.

06:21:54.640 I'm still keeping

06:21:55.280 the direct eye contact

06:21:56.260 on your face

06:21:57.180 the whole time.

06:21:58.960 Sorry,

06:21:59.460 didn't mean to cut you off there,

06:22:00.380 so go ahead.

06:22:01.400 No,

06:22:01.760 I think most people,

06:22:04.220 most of the ways

06:22:05.100 that you spend gold

06:22:05.820 in World of Warcraft

06:22:06.640 are ways that like

06:22:07.740 are directly tied

06:22:08.600 to your character.

06:22:09.580 You could conceivably

06:22:10.320 have someone

06:22:10.760 that buys gold

06:22:11.280 and then buys

06:22:11.800 a bunch of consumes

06:22:12.460 and then puts those

06:22:13.140 on a level one bank alt.

06:22:14.320 Yeah.

06:22:14.900 Okay.

06:22:15.960 I'm willing to take that L

06:22:17.340 for all the benefits

06:22:18.900 and pros

06:22:19.360 that come with the economy.

06:22:21.160 Sure.

06:22:21.560 But like,

06:22:21.960 okay,

06:22:22.160 for example,

06:22:22.680 let's say you're

06:22:23.220 first time leveling up

06:22:25.220 on the hardcore realm

06:22:26.300 and you're level,

06:22:28.020 you're level 30,

06:22:30.120 the mount is coming up

06:22:31.120 at level 40.

06:22:32.480 I think a smart player

06:22:33.440 what they would do

06:22:34.160 is

06:22:34.880 seven hundred and seventy-seven

06:22:38.300 donated ten dollars.

06:22:40.400 Wow,

06:22:40.800 related question here.

06:22:42.600 How big is your banana

06:22:43.800 compared to the brown banana

06:22:45.400 on the table?

06:22:46.720 Oh,

06:22:47.000 seven in the chat.

06:22:48.920 Um,

06:22:50.200 how much does someone,

06:22:53.640 how much does someone

06:22:54.400 have to super chat

06:22:55.200 right now

06:22:55.580 for one of you guys

06:22:56.200 to just fucking

06:22:57.420 toss that banana?

06:22:58.780 Toss it?

06:23:00.040 Toss that banana.

06:23:00.780 Toss it where?

06:23:01.740 I don't know.

06:23:03.460 Um,

06:23:04.060 I don't know what I'm saying.

06:23:05.360 Um,

06:23:05.660 okay.

06:23:06.840 Level 30,

06:23:08.220 they're,

06:23:08.600 they're gathering gold

06:23:10.200 for their mount.

06:23:11.280 Instead of just as,

06:23:12.340 as you would normally level,

06:23:13.500 you would just hold that gold

06:23:14.640 on your account.

06:23:16.000 Yeah.

06:23:16.360 Um,

06:23:17.020 I could conceivably see someone

06:23:19.140 anytime,

06:23:21.320 every,

06:23:21.960 every time they get

06:23:22.580 two,

06:23:22.940 three gold.

06:23:23.440 Okay,

06:23:23.660 let me just send that gold

06:23:24.680 to an alt in case I die.

06:23:26.380 Yeah.

06:23:27.240 And so,

06:23:28.080 that probably will happen

06:23:30.580 to some degree.

06:23:31.220 Also,

06:23:31.640 if you're,

06:23:31.860 if you're max level,

06:23:32.680 okay,

06:23:32.820 I'm level 60 before I go

06:23:34.240 do hardcore molten core

06:23:35.200 or upper block rock spire,

06:23:36.620 all of my liquidity,

06:23:38.040 I'm going to send over

06:23:38.860 to my level one bank alt.

06:23:40.360 That's going to be the meta.

06:23:41.460 Yeah.

06:23:41.760 Oh,

06:23:41.980 for sure.

06:23:42.340 I mean,

06:23:42.700 there's,

06:23:43.640 if there's no limitations

06:23:45.080 on like creating a bank alt,

06:23:46.840 um,

06:23:47.640 cause I mean,

06:23:48.280 typically what you would do,

06:23:49.600 I mean,

06:23:50.160 people have bank alts

06:23:51.060 in non hardcore,

06:23:53.560 but like it would just

06:23:54.240 be much more,

06:23:55.260 uh,

06:23:56.220 you know,

06:23:56.520 you have,

06:23:57.100 I mean,

06:23:59.060 I remember when I was

06:23:59.780 on my rogue,

06:24:00.300 like I would keep a bunch

06:24:01.940 of like rating potions

06:24:03.040 in my bag.

06:24:03.800 So,

06:24:04.040 you know,

06:24:04.220 if I had,

06:24:04.980 if I had any flasks,

06:24:05.940 if I had any,

06:24:06.600 uh,

06:24:07.660 uh,

06:24:08.000 uh,

06:24:08.020 mongoose elixir,

06:24:09.860 I think it was called

06:24:10.460 for the,

06:24:11.300 um,

06:24:11.960 if I had,

06:24:12.660 uh,

06:24:13.100 the winter fall fire water,

06:24:15.380 fire water,

06:24:16.000 I,

06:24:16.220 I'd,

06:24:16.540 I'd keep it on my rogue

06:24:17.740 in the bank

06:24:18.460 or even in my bag sometimes.

06:24:20.100 Now I think people

06:24:22.040 are going to be like

06:24:22.560 really probably lean

06:24:24.540 more towards very,

06:24:25.620 uh,

06:24:25.900 protect,

06:24:26.400 uh,

06:24:26.640 risk averse.

06:24:27.340 They'll have a bunch

06:24:28.260 of bank alts.

06:24:28.920 They're going to have

06:24:29.540 no gold on their main

06:24:30.940 unless they,

06:24:31.740 they'll transfer

06:24:32.320 if they need to do

06:24:33.180 any sort of,

06:24:34.340 uh,

06:24:35.040 transaction,

06:24:35.620 but they'll have no

06:24:36.880 risk,

06:24:37.260 almost bare bones,

06:24:38.560 no resources on any

06:24:40.880 character that could die.

06:24:42.000 Yeah.

06:24:42.440 Everything's going to get

06:24:43.220 siphoned to their,

06:24:44.500 to their bank alts.

06:24:45.960 Yep.

06:24:46.460 Yeah.

06:24:46.680 I think,

06:24:47.580 um,

06:24:48.000 that's,

06:24:48.420 that's a really hard

06:24:48.900 problem to,

06:24:49.480 to combat.

06:24:50.060 In fact,

06:24:50.440 I think it's so

06:24:51.200 impossibly hard to combat.

06:24:52.780 I just go the other

06:24:53.620 direction.

06:24:53.980 I just wish they would

06:24:54.840 add sort of like an

06:24:55.580 account wide bank

06:24:56.260 so you don't even have

06:24:57.220 to juggle alts.

06:24:58.240 You just,

06:24:58.880 whatever character you're

06:24:59.760 on,

06:24:59.920 you put it in the

06:25:00.360 account wide bank

06:25:00.900 and it's all good.

06:25:01.760 Okay.

06:25:02.160 That's what I would

06:25:02.680 like.

06:25:02.780 Cause that's,

06:25:03.160 that's like Pat,

06:25:03.880 that's back to exile.

06:25:04.800 That's what Tarkov does.

06:25:06.140 That's what dark and

06:25:06.860 darker does.

06:25:07.500 That's any bank with

06:25:09.020 like shared stash.

06:25:10.620 What do you,

06:25:10.900 what do you think ladies

06:25:11.500 about that?

06:25:16.680 these girls are Chad

06:25:20.180 World of Warcraft gamers.

06:25:21.820 Um,

06:25:22.240 top tier World of Warcraft

06:25:23.280 gamers.

06:25:23.920 Uh,

06:25:24.000 what do you think?

06:25:25.900 What's that?

06:25:26.740 I might be leveled 60.

06:25:28.060 Yeah.

06:25:28.560 We're actually

06:25:29.860 undercover.

06:25:30.780 I love you,

06:25:31.640 Snowman.

06:25:31.980 I love you,

06:25:32.440 bro.

06:25:33.260 What,

06:25:33.720 what do you think

06:25:34.300 about,

06:25:35.040 um,

06:25:35.800 are you in favor of

06:25:38.000 just like everything

06:25:38.840 being available upon

06:25:40.700 release?

06:25:41.420 Although like there's

06:25:42.620 no phases.

06:25:44.460 I think,

06:25:44.960 I think for 99% of

06:25:46.160 people,

06:25:46.380 that's going to be

06:25:46.840 really good for 1%.

06:25:47.980 I think it's good for

06:25:49.040 1% of people.

06:25:49.900 It's going to be an

06:25:50.500 absolute like degenerate

06:25:51.760 race to world first.

06:25:53.020 Yes.

06:25:53.380 For your super sweaty

06:25:54.160 players.

06:25:54.640 That's fucking sickening.

06:25:56.640 I need to,

06:25:57.440 I need to stop swearing.

06:25:58.260 Sorry.

06:25:59.080 Um,

06:25:59.520 but for most people,

06:26:01.380 I think it's good.

06:26:01.880 I think it keeps the

06:26:02.500 server kind of fresh.

06:26:03.260 It keeps it evergreen.

06:26:05.080 It makes it,

06:26:05.780 a lot of people are like,

06:26:06.580 Oh,

06:26:06.680 is it too late to join?

06:26:07.880 And it's too late to

06:26:08.520 start playing the game.

06:26:09.180 Well,

06:26:09.500 this answers the question.

06:26:10.840 No,

06:26:11.000 it's never too late to join.

06:26:11.920 You know what I think is

06:26:12.660 really good is,

06:26:13.760 the removal of the buff

06:26:16.980 cap and debuff limit.

06:26:19.140 Yeah,

06:26:19.360 that's really good.

06:26:19.740 I think that's good.

06:26:20.140 I think they should do

06:26:20.800 that on era too.

06:26:22.600 Yeah.

06:26:23.500 The thing is,

06:26:24.140 it doesn't really like

06:26:25.480 change the meta a whole lot,

06:26:26.600 but it does make certain

06:26:27.500 classes a tiny,

06:26:28.320 the classes that it does

06:26:29.660 impact kind of suck anyway.

06:26:32.080 So it doesn't matter a lot.

06:26:33.780 Yeah.

06:26:34.160 Yeah.

06:26:34.640 Rest of Druid maybe.

06:26:36.400 Shadow Priest.

06:26:37.380 Yeah.

06:26:37.840 Well also,

06:26:38.440 I mean,

06:26:38.680 it's,

06:26:39.000 that's,

06:26:40.360 that's certainly for the

06:26:41.100 debuff limit,

06:26:41.760 but I think what was

06:26:42.440 really annoying was like,

06:26:43.820 if you were like min-maxing,

06:26:45.460 like getting all the world

06:26:46.460 buffs,

06:26:47.200 like you did have to be

06:26:48.220 careful because some of

06:26:48.960 your buffs could be

06:26:49.760 bumped off.

06:26:50.800 Yeah.

06:26:51.320 Like if you were like,

06:26:52.280 and wasn't there something

06:26:53.360 like certain enchants

06:26:54.820 counted towards.

06:26:56.460 That was a bug that was

06:26:57.420 there for a while.

06:26:58.240 Yeah.

06:26:58.340 Did they get rid of that?

06:26:59.280 They fixed that like

06:27:00.140 halfway through classic.

06:27:01.360 Yeah.

06:27:01.800 Cause I mean,

06:27:02.220 I think that's how it was

06:27:03.540 in the original design,

06:27:04.920 but that's to me,

06:27:05.620 that's absolutely should not.

06:27:07.840 Yeah.

06:27:08.020 That was a totally

06:27:08.880 unintentional bug that

06:27:09.860 people figured it out

06:27:10.980 halfway through classic

06:27:11.760 and they were like,

06:27:12.240 yo,

06:27:12.320 what's going on here,

06:27:12.920 blizzard?

06:27:13.460 Yeah.

06:27:13.640 But there was a website,

06:27:14.940 I think,

06:27:15.300 I think in vanilla

06:27:15.960 and classic vanilla,

06:27:16.860 you could have 32 buffs

06:27:18.820 total.

06:27:19.700 You had a buff cap.

06:27:20.420 I think it was 32.

06:27:21.420 And there was a website

06:27:22.380 where you could like,

06:27:23.480 like plug up,

06:27:24.540 plug them all in

06:27:25.140 and count them up

06:27:25.800 and it would say,

06:27:26.240 okay,

06:27:26.340 you've got 31,

06:27:27.140 you have room for one more.

06:27:28.080 And it was kind of a,

06:27:29.800 kind of fun to plan that

06:27:30.940 out and plug in every

06:27:31.860 single bug.

06:27:32.300 Cause you're doing your

06:27:32.800 speed run.

06:27:33.240 I've got all my world buffs.

06:27:34.180 I've got my,

06:27:35.100 my,

06:27:36.200 okay.

06:27:36.520 what if I pop a potion?

06:27:39.260 What if,

06:27:39.560 what if this happens?

06:27:40.220 What if,

06:27:40.480 what as a warlock,

06:27:41.320 what if I pop hellfire

06:27:42.360 when I'm hellfiring?

06:27:43.540 That's a buff that I get.

06:27:44.860 What if I,

06:27:45.500 okay.

06:27:45.620 So you have to plan all

06:27:46.320 this out.

06:27:47.380 And that was kind of fun

06:27:48.680 in like a very,

06:27:49.740 uh,

06:27:52.060 special way in a very

06:27:53.380 special way,

06:27:54.060 but,

06:27:54.840 uh,

06:27:55.080 it's probably for the best

06:27:55.960 that they're changing it.

06:27:57.300 Yeah.

06:27:57.760 I mean,

06:27:58.160 and,

06:27:58.500 and the other thing with

06:27:59.320 that is,

06:28:00.080 uh,

06:28:00.280 there,

06:28:00.500 there's also an add-on

06:28:01.540 that was like a buff cap

06:28:02.640 tracker or something.

06:28:03.500 If I recall,

06:28:04.280 it was like a week or

06:28:04.960 that did it.

06:28:05.580 Yeah.

06:28:05.880 Yeah.

06:28:06.000 Yeah.

06:28:06.160 Or,

06:28:06.360 yeah.

06:28:06.520 I don't exactly remember

06:28:07.620 if it was an add-on

06:28:08.320 or a week aura,

06:28:08.980 but,

06:28:09.220 uh,

06:28:09.840 and I know warriors

06:28:10.720 would like,

06:28:11.160 cause warriors have like

06:28:12.160 a lot of like,

06:28:13.460 uh,

06:28:14.600 there's,

06:28:15.000 there's like blood rage

06:28:16.420 or I forgot what the

06:28:17.320 other ones that are,

06:28:18.360 uh,

06:28:18.380 but warriors were very

06:28:20.100 much at risk of having

06:28:21.240 their,

06:28:21.600 their,

06:28:22.580 uh,

06:28:22.940 buffs pushed off.

06:28:24.760 Um,

06:28:25.840 yeah.

06:28:26.460 So definitely feel

06:28:28.300 the same way.

06:28:29.000 And like,

06:28:29.260 they'd be,

06:28:29.600 they'd be screaming at

06:28:30.340 Resto Drew.

06:28:30.800 It's like,

06:28:30.980 don't,

06:28:31.320 don't use Rejuve

06:28:33.500 it could like bump off

06:28:34.340 your Darkmoon Faire buff

06:28:35.400 or something,

06:28:35.860 right?

06:28:35.960 Yeah.

06:28:36.200 It could be catastrophic.

06:28:37.660 If you lose your Darkmoon Faire

06:28:38.940 10% damage buff,

06:28:40.300 your parse is over.

06:28:41.560 The speed run is over.

06:28:42.660 Done.

06:28:42.860 It's done.

06:28:43.360 It's done.

06:28:43.780 It's done.

06:28:44.460 The weak.

06:28:45.300 See you next circus.

06:28:46.660 See you next circus.

06:28:47.920 Unbelievable.

06:28:48.820 Unbelievable.

06:28:49.880 Un,

06:28:50.220 just.

06:28:50.860 I would be mad.

06:28:51.940 Observe.

06:28:52.440 Kiss your 99 parse goodbye.

06:28:54.260 It's fucking gone.

06:28:55.680 It's gone gone.

06:28:56.720 99?

06:28:57.040 And,

06:28:57.460 uh.

06:28:57.900 Wow.

06:28:59.160 Yeah.

06:28:59.380 And then like,

06:29:00.040 you know,

06:29:00.320 you get,

06:29:00.800 you get a warlock in your group.

06:29:02.120 They got their imp out

06:29:02.920 and then you're fought

06:29:03.540 like the fucking little thing.

06:29:04.380 What does it take

06:29:04.940 to become a warlock?

06:29:07.280 Well,

06:29:07.720 this is the guy that.

06:29:08.760 Are you a warlock?

06:29:09.880 It sounds like a cool title.

06:29:11.280 Wait,

06:29:11.460 Dan Di plays a druid.

06:29:13.360 Nick,

06:29:13.600 can you pull up,

06:29:14.420 can you pull up,

06:29:15.740 his Instagram really quick?

06:29:17.840 We're gonna find

06:29:18.440 the warlock photo.

06:29:19.900 Okay,

06:29:20.420 I wanna try rogues.

06:29:21.380 While he,

06:29:21.840 while he's finding that,

06:29:22.980 what's the most attractive?

06:29:24.200 Their alamed meatball

06:29:25.220 donated $10.

06:29:27.140 What's the most attractive

06:29:28.320 and unattractive class?

06:29:31.580 Class?

06:29:32.060 You take it.

06:29:32.580 Class?

06:29:33.180 Like,

06:29:33.740 economic class?

06:29:35.060 I think,

06:29:35.400 well,

06:29:35.500 he's talking about

06:29:35.900 World of Warcraft.

06:29:36.500 Attractive,

06:29:37.000 rich,

06:29:37.640 unattractive,

06:29:38.400 poor.

06:29:39.500 Well,

06:29:39.660 I think he's talking

06:29:40.080 about World of Warcraft,

06:29:40.920 but like class,

06:29:41.780 I think,

06:29:42.200 I mean,

06:29:42.440 there's the races,

06:29:43.800 the different races.

06:29:44.960 I would say probably like

06:29:46.300 female dwarf is like

06:29:48.780 pretty fucking stacked,

06:29:49.940 you know?

06:29:50.340 Yeah,

06:29:50.640 thick.

06:29:51.080 Super thick.

06:29:51.840 Yeah.

06:29:52.200 Super stacked.

06:29:53.060 Night elf is pretty good.

06:29:54.920 Human.

06:29:56.780 Horde is.

06:29:57.960 Aw,

06:29:58.400 who's doggie?

06:29:59.260 Yeah,

06:29:59.660 you can pull up the,

06:30:00.580 the little,

06:30:01.440 click that one.

06:30:03.120 That's my character

06:30:03.860 right there.

06:30:04.560 Yeah,

06:30:04.920 there you go.

06:30:06.140 That's Stay Safe,

06:30:07.900 Scarab Lord.

06:30:09.300 The Scarab Lord.

06:30:11.400 Pink,

06:30:12.340 female gnome,

06:30:13.380 warlock with pink hair.

06:30:14.500 Pretty much that means

06:30:15.260 you're the best player

06:30:15.840 in the world

06:30:16.160 is what that means.

06:30:17.240 Because you're a woman?

06:30:18.760 Yeah,

06:30:19.080 because I'm a gnome woman.

06:30:21.960 Based.

06:30:23.620 Cool.

06:30:24.220 That's what I identify as.

06:30:25.320 All right,

06:30:25.640 let's wrap up.

06:30:26.300 All right,

06:30:26.580 we're going to wrap up.

06:30:27.640 Yo,

06:30:27.820 thank you guys for joining us

06:30:29.020 for the after show.

06:30:30.360 Is there anything else

06:30:31.020 on World of Warcraft?

06:30:32.620 I'm proud of you.

06:30:33.280 No,

06:30:33.440 I think we went through it all.

06:30:33.860 Don't start playing World of Warcraft.

06:30:35.160 Never play this game.

06:30:36.640 everything that needed

06:30:37.280 to be talked about.

06:30:38.240 Yep.

06:30:38.820 Cool.

06:30:39.220 All right,

06:30:39.500 guys,

06:30:39.740 thank you for tuning in tonight.

06:30:42.220 You could have been

06:30:42.840 anywhere in the world,

06:30:43.580 but you're here with me.

06:30:44.220 I appreciate that.

06:30:45.400 Thank you to everyone

06:30:46.020 who super chatted,

06:30:46.700 donates,

06:30:47.040 supports the show,

06:30:47.660 means the world.

06:30:48.420 07's in the chat.

06:30:49.600 07's in the chat.

06:30:51.580 Wait,

06:30:51.960 you're out of frame.

06:30:52.820 Get in frame.

06:30:53.140 Oh,

06:30:53.420 here we go.

06:30:55.840 Here we go.

06:30:57.860 Hi,

06:30:58.600 diaresis,

06:30:59.260 cidula,

06:30:59.760 diaresis,

06:31:01.360 diaresis,

06:31:02.440 diaresis,

06:31:06.140 diaresis,

06:31:07.600 diaresis,

06:31:08.660 psidula,

06:31:09.020 diaresis,

06:31:09.980 diaresis,

06:31:10.620 diaresis cretula,

06:31:12.120 diaresis,

06:31:12.920 diaresis,

06:31:13.620 diaresis,

06:31:14.760 cidula,

06:31:15.180 diaresis,

06:31:15.980 diaresis,

06:31:16.580 diaresis,

06:31:17.580 diaresis,

06:31:18.560 let him cook,

06:31:19.280 let him cook.

06:31:19.860 Let him cook.

06:31:19.880 I couldn't have said it better.

06:31:28.780 Wait, what was that last one?

06:31:30.380 That shit was like the...

06:31:31.720 Can you do that?

06:31:32.680 Like, can you do that again?

06:31:33.680 What was that one?

06:31:34.380 Can you just like make it a hundred or something?

06:31:36.820 I don't even know what.

06:31:37.840 Oh, dude, that's so funny.

06:31:39.240 Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.

06:31:40.600 Okay, 07's in the chat.

06:31:42.260 Thank you guys so much.

06:31:44.660 And we'll be maybe live again with Adam22 and his wife, Lena.

06:31:49.120 And maybe on Friday, not guaranteed.

06:31:52.620 Otherwise, Sunday, 7 p.m. Pacific.

06:31:54.600 We will see you next time.

06:31:56.540 I hope you guys have a very, very good night.

06:31:59.260 07's in the chat.

06:32:00.320 Good night, guys.

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