Dating Talk #86
Episode Stats
Length
6 hours and 31 minutes
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201.94554
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453
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have a special guest on the show to talk about her job as a flight attendant, porn star, and only fans. We also have a new segment called "Only Fans" where we get to know the hosts and ask them about their jobs and how they got into the industry.
Transcript
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We're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California,
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Guys, a few quick announcements before the show begins.
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So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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Okay, we're going to go around the table once more.
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If you're single, how long have you been single
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I'm single, and I've been single for six years.
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Six years ago, that was your six-month relationship.
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which is probably, feeds into why I've been single for so long.
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I have, like, a bad habit of, like, ignoring red flags
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to not do that in the hopes of getting into a healthy relationship.
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I think with practice and, like, dating over time,
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And that was, like, a short-term situationship type thing?
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But you still considered yourself single in that?
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There was, like, no conversation about exclusivity
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I just don't think I'm comfortable with being exclusive.
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well, what was this whole six months of getting to know each other for?
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My character defects are just things that are, like,
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like, I just have a bad habit of, like, wanting to be loved.
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So, I, like, take on people that, like, are serial daters
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or, like, me, like, ignoring those red flags and other people.
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I, like, yeah, basically would just date people that were bad for me,
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And is that because you just haven't found the right guy or?
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fixing myself so I'm ready for the right partner.
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there's certain things that I feel like you can't fix being single.
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while being in a relationship with somebody or dating somebody.
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My longest relationship was a little over a year.
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Any, so you were last on the podcast a couple months ago.
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Any little situations popping up since your appearance?
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Like, I'll leave first, and then I'll be like, no, come back.
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Okay, so I'm in a relationship that's over a year now.
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And my longest relationship was a year and a half.
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so he can't always be going on flights with you.
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or perhaps at the start of your current relationship,
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I was sort of in like a friends with benefits situation ship.
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but nothing where it's been like committal again.
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so there's kind of a guy in the picture currently.
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that do have OnlyFans and participate in OnlyFans,
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their boyfriends are usually the most supportive
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and caring partners because they're not insecure.
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but I mean, when you come with an opinion like that,
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Anybody else have a little clap back at Cheeks or?
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Mr. Cheeks, if you are looking for a girlfriend,
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I think this is perhaps one of your character flaws
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with strangely strange usernames on the internet.
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So, okay, well, beaten cheeks for DMs are open.
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Six, 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
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777 quadrillion, 777 trillion, 777 billion, 777 million, 777 thousand, 777 name, 7 books.
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Here, I almost want to do a coin flip because I won't have everybody name 7 books.
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So, non-fiction would be like Harry Potter, The Alchemist.
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Fiction would be like Think and Grow Rich, Outwitting the Devil, How to Win Friends and
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Influence People, 12 Rules of Life by Jordan Peterson.
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And then, ooh, that's another good one that I really like.
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That's actually probably one of my favorite ones.
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I was just going to point out that there's a bookshelf right behind you.
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Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, Samuel, Kings, Chronicles.
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Well, I've been seeing him for a bit, but we've been officially dating him for two months.
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When you were last on, you were also in this kind of situation.
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Because on the last show, you were kind of like simping for chase.
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You were enthralled by, just for the rest of the panel, for context, one of the other
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You were kind of into him, and you were kind of simping on him.
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Did that have an impact on your relationship at all?
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I was just like, well, this guy's kind of cool.
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Cool in a, I want to dump my boyfriend kind of thing.
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I just thought it was cool with his, like, Bible stuff.
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Because, like, I grew up in a really, really cool household.
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Amy can back me on me being a real person from SauceCast, Live VIP event.
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Any girl that think I'm insecure because I don't want my women nude for my future kids
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It's not that you're insecure because you don't want to date a woman that has an OnlyFans.
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You're insecure for speaking negatively on women that choose to do it.
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But speaking negatively on them does make you insecure.
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Well, women oftentimes, like, belittle and make jokes about guys who are short, and oftentimes
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things that guys, like, don't oftentimes have control over.
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No, I agree with what you're saying, and eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind,
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but, you know, it's very common and prevalent in our culture, so we can't act like it's
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shocking or is a terrible person when it's something that's so normalized in our society.
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So I don't know if you have any thoughts on that.
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You didn't address Essie over here, inviting the DMs.
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I think you were telling us about how you nearly lost a relationship because you were
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I was just like, oh, this guy, I like his politics.
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But the guy was upset post-show, your boyfriend or whatever.
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Because I rated Chase, like, higher than he rated himself.
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Like, I think Chase said he was like an eight, and I said, I think you're selling yourself
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Yeah, I think there's also some other things, too.
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My longest relationship was nearly four years, which was my most recent one.
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Okay, so that's pretty fresh for your relationship.
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I think that we realized that we were going on very different paths.
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I wanted something that was a little bit more traditional.
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I've realized that, you know, I don't necessarily want to do what I do forever.
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Eventually, I want the more traditional lifestyle of just, like, a family, kids, that kind of
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And it didn't really resonate at the time, although I think maybe he's reconsidering, possibly.
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Well, it's funny because he always said that that's the thing that he wanted.
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And I'm not trying to say that that's not what he wants as an absolute, but I think he just
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really wants to focus on his career and himself over the period of the next several years.
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Which I understand, you know, he's going into his prime.
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You know, it's time for a man to do that kind of thing, you know?
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I moved to Maui, Hawaii originally when I moved from Australia.
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We met pretty soon after I moved there, but started dating maybe, like, I don't know,
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I moved, we both moved to Miami from Hawaii a couple years ago.
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I am single and celibate for three years and four months since March 2020.
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I won't say that I get a lot of attention, a lot of DMs, but they're all the wrong dudes.
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So you're, as of 3.4 months ago, or three, four, wait, sorry.
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But you were not celibate prior to that, correct?
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So would you also want to, I assume you want to date a guy who's also celibate?
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Like, let's say you meet a guy and he's, he's godly.
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Well, I don't know if he's, if what I'm about to say would disqualify him as being godly,
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but he, he loves you, whatever, but he wants to sleep with other women until, because.
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If he's fornicating, he's not, you know what I mean?
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To the of girl, it's not a matter of insecurity.
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If you stepped out of your box, the average man and woman would find OnlyFans unacceptable.
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Men have standards because they worked hard for their freedom.
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I mean, you're kind of just still negating my point.
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If you don't want to date a girl that doesn't have OnlyFans, that's totally fine.
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Preferences aren't an issue, but when you're being rude to other people, I think that you're
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insecure for that, and my opinion's not going to change on that.
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I feel like it's definitely a personal preference on if you want to date an OnlyFans girl or
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not, but my question to him is, are there levels to that?
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Like, if it's an OnlyFans girl who does swimsuit stuff or does lingerie or is nudity his boundary,
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I'm just curious to know if it's just strictly if she has an OnlyFans, it's a no-go, or if
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Because there are, you know, degrees to this shit, you know, like, so I have a question
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What about, like, you know, what if there's, like, no BG content, you know?
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Because, like, you have, like, a girl who's posting lingerie photos who could do OnlyFans
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all the way to a girl who's, like, doing gang bangs and shit.
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Like, you know, like, there's a difference, you know?
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I mean, the women that do OnlyFans that are in lingerie or swimsuits, it's basically the
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same thing as a Sports Illustrated model or a Victoria's Secret model.
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So if you would date a Victoria's Secret model, it's pretty much one and the same.
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I think that someone not wanting their girlfriend to have an OnlyFans is perfectly reasonable.
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I think it's respecting their boundaries because everybody has boundaries coming into a relationship.
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And to say that that's solely based on insecurity is kind of stupid because, you know, there's
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I think what the comment says is he's saying, like, oh, the average man won't want an OnlyFans.
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But I've met a lot of average men that have really great jobs that think it's cool that
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And they even support it and they're like, oh, like, let me subscribe, like, send me the
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Can we all agree that men will say anything to get laid?
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So couldn't they just be like, they might not genuinely believe that, but they're just gassing
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I don't think that most men would like it, though, personally.
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It just reflects on their values and, like, boundaries.
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Like I said, I don't think that it has anything to do with insecurity or anything like that.
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And, like, it's really hard to find a man who will respect the OnlyFans and endorse that
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Plenty of beautiful, feminine women throughout the world.
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You're competing against women who offer more to the table.
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I date girls with real value that have a body count under 3 and less than 16% body fat.
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No OF girls at all don't compare OF to SI but I'll smash.
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But going back to the point previously, again, I said it's not an issue of having a personal preference.
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It's totally fine to not want to date somebody that has an OnlyFans.
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But when you're judging somebody, that doesn't make you a good person or a decent person.
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And I believe that it makes you insecure if you're going to talk down on someone, even if it's not within your boundaries and your personal preferences.
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Because you're still talking and judging somebody else.
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Well, I don't think he'd come up to you and say it on the street, but it's an inflammatory podcast where that's literally the point.
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I don't think he'd say it to you on the street in person.
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But this type of environment kind of promotes that type of thing to occur.
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And I'm fine with that, but I'm still allowed to make the point.
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I don't think that necessarily makes him insecure, though.
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I was just going to say, I feel like in my experience, a lot of the time, men will say it's hot at first and they're, like, into it.
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And then if you actually start to get serious with them, they can have some drawbacks and they kind of have to work through it.
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And also, in my experience, it's sometimes easier to date men with, like, non-traditional jobs.
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Like, maybe they work in music or real estate, stuff like that.
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I was going to ask a question that would change the subject a bit.
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So, if there's anything else that needs to be said.
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Before we do that, we do need to have everybody.
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So, how, because on our last show, we had a girl who, she said the same thing.
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So, she, like, hooked up with some dude, even though her standard is, okay, well.
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So, are you pretty confident that you're going to hold to your celibacy?
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Have you declared your celibacy at any point and then made a mistake?
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I've been walking in purity for three years and four months.
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Would you, you'd be okay, like, to date, what if, a virgin?
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I was going to ask you about your relationship, the one that was four and a half years.
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You said it ended because he wanted kids and you weren't quite ready.
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It wasn't necessarily, he does want kids long term, but the time period when I want kids,
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because I'll be, I'm, like, turning 28 next month, so there's a very limited period of
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time where I'm able to really actualize that versus his timeline.
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So it was mostly a timeline thing versus absolute values.
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I was going to say, I was just going to ask, because four and a half years is a long time,
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and I would be very upset if my partner couldn't come to a compromise with me at that point
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So I was just wondering, like, if he was just kind of stubborn on that topic and wasn't
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Well, honestly, the, the breakup was really sudden and shocking to me.
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So it's, so it's really, it's really hard to go super, like, in depth on that because
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we didn't really have much time to reconcile it.
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And it has been a couple of months since we may possibly be revisiting, not 100% sure.
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Ladies, what is the farthest you've gone to hide your past actions from a man you were romantically
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Farthest you've gone to hide your past actions from a man.
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I'm assuming he's talking like if you had a past of either promiscuity or wild partying,
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Have any of you hidden your wicked and wild past from a partner?
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I feel like if I'm entering a relationship with someone, I try to be 100% honest.
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And if I'm not willing to do that, then we're just not going to get to that point of like
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When I like somebody a lot, I'll like tell them everything, spill everything.
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Well, I think you sent us some notes for the pre-show, so maybe we can get into that.
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I think what he's kind of getting at is, let's say, for example, you're meeting a new
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guy, and he's kind of inquisitive as to your previous relationship situations and perhaps
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Would any of you have an issue disclosing your body count to a new partner?
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Would you be like, that's none of your business?
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I don't think that's like too crazy of a question to ask.
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And if it's somebody that I'm seeing and I'm interested in, I'm more than willing to be
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like rigorously honest and tell them my body count.
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I don't feel like it's that big of an issue or that big of a question.
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I think no guy has really asked me for my body count, but for the most recent guy that I've
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been seeing, or not really seeing, I'm just like deeply in love with him, he did ask me
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about my body count, and I was honest because I think you do have to be kind of honest about
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your body count when it comes to like being safe, when it comes to like the person that
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you're going to be like potentially sleeping with.
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I think that's something that really needs to be talked about and getting tested as well
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I think that's an important conversation to have with your partner.
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Brian, you lumberjack, here is $100 so you can buy yourself some new clothes.
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You wear the same two flannels every damn show.
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If you were a rapper, they'd call you two flannels.
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You look like you're stuck in a 90s Pearl Jam music video.
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Two flannels, thank you for the TTS, appreciate it.
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Yeah, thank you, I'm going to go out and I'm going to buy maybe like an orange flannel
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I think you were about to come in on the previous one.
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Okay, so I do porn and I sleep with a lot of people during the week and sometimes more
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than one, like today I slept with two people, then I came here.
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I was just in Miami and I think I slept with 15 people there.
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I don't sleep with people in my personal life, only for work.
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We're all getting tested and it's not safe to sleep with anyone else if they're not tested.
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Okay, do you date other people in the industry?
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I came into the industry with a boyfriend and it didn't work out.
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And honestly, I don't care to date while I'm in it.
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What, was it related to you being in the industry that it didn't work out or for unrelated reasons?
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It was a lot to do with the industry at the same time with how he felt.
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There's a lot of red flags that I missed and there's a lot of things like I also need to work on.
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And while I'm doing this, I can't be considerate of someone else's feelings.
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So while you were seeing him, and I assume you guys were intimate with each other, you were shooting scenes with other people, correct?
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Would you have, how long were you dating him again?
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Would you have had an issue if he was like, I don't know if you guys had an open relationship, but if he was like fucking other chicks, would you have an issue with that?
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Well, you can't throw him under the bus like that.
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But he wanted to be monogamous and he understood that it was my job.
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To be fair, you probably work with guys who are hung like fucking horses.
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So, like, what if his was just average, but you're just so used to the.
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Damn, you're really throwing your nine-month relationship under the bus here.
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Yo, boyfriend, we cordially invite you to come be on the show, our next podcast, and, you
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know, you can, if you want, you can contest some of the things she's saying.
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If it was actually five, you can let us know, but you're welcome to come on the podcast,
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because we like to hear both sides of the story.
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Okay, so, do you think he's watching right now?
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I made it official, but there was a lot of issues towards the end of the relationship.
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You just told him, told the fucking world that he's got a small D.
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but would you have had an issue if he was sleeping with other girls during your relationship?
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I wouldn't have if we talked about it, but going into it, we decided to only be monogamous
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with one another, but he did have an issue with what I was doing, you know, when my job
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would be too much for him, he would throw it in my face that I was not monogamous.
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When you say it was too much for him, what are we talking about here?
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Are we talking like the frequency with which you are getting, doing scenes with dudes
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Um, I think with certain scenes, he didn't like certain things.
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I only ever spoke the truth about their actions and personalities, but never about their flaws
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If you guys come on here and you guys judge the hell out of us, like, please, like, okay.
00:40:10.340
Well, Prometheus is new to the TTS, so maybe he hasn't, uh, but would you be upset if he
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was like, you know, you know what, what if he came out, okay, we're going to have him
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No real man wants to date a girl's they want to F you.
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Stop the insecurity shit when you're not saying your body count female dignity is going down
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Um, wow, you guys have really, you guys have really, uh, gotten the, uh, chat up in arms.
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Um, okay, would you be upset, and we are having him on the show, if he came on the podcast and
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was like, he was like, you know, Karen, that's your name, right, Karen?
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Yeah, they kind of did you dirty with the whole Karen.
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He come, your ex-boyfriend comes on the podcast, and he's like, holy, okay.
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Bangs, I challenged that as I never judged you like that.
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Prometheus was always polite and diplomatic with you.
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Okay, your boyfriend comes on the podcast, and he was like, listen, Karen just, she had
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I don't know, but what if he came on and he was like.
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I'm not mad about that, because I know it's not.
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It's like throwing a hot dog down a hallway, right?
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It might have been her who said that judgments come from a place of insecurity.
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You know, we can all judge based on our own opinions, but it doesn't mean that it's right.
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Like, not everything's based around insecurity.
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You were saying, you know, we're talking about your ex a little bit.
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And you said that at one point you were in Miami and you did.
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Is that like the most in the nine-day period or have you done?
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But, no, just whenever I have heavy workflows, I'll sleep with a lot of people.
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But before that, I didn't sleep with anyone for a month.
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Like I said, in my regular life, it doesn't really matter.
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I have an OnlyFans, but I don't do, like, scenes or, like, Boy Girl, things like that.
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I was supposed to be on the show this week, but Brian ran out of money to fund my trip,
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so he has to save another year for my appearance.
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I'll gladly let you OF304s try and judge me on my appearance.
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Guess I'll gain some body fat to be on your level.
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By the way, just a reminder, the views expressed by the chat in TTS does not necessarily reflect
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I said I don't do full porn, and they're like...
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They said, like, what's half porn or something like that?
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Just a show of hands, those of you who do OF or traditional adult content, who does BG content?
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My ex, he had an OnlyFans for a couple months because he's a musician, so we made, like,
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sexy music videos together, and I would, like, twerk on him and stuff like that.
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While I get that figured out, sorry, guys, my computer's bugged out.
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So, we have some pre-show notes from a couple of you.
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Mr. Meatball, sorry that we missed your super chat.
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Mr. Meatball asked, so, ladies, do looks even matter for a guy if he's successful, confident,
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I personally think people become more attractive as you get to know them and their personality
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as well, so, you know, I don't think you have to be a 10 out of 10 in the looks department
00:46:34.580
because you can become a 10 out of 10 based on your confidence, career, you know, what
00:46:39.080
you've got going on in your life and your personality, to be honest.
00:46:48.500
Oh, and Mr. Meatball, he also asked, dude on the panel, there's a guy on the panel, so
00:46:53.760
I guess it's directed me, would you date an ugly chick for any reason?
00:47:13.940
I mean, I definitely think a girl can make up for, like her personality can definitely
00:47:20.860
make up for a lack of appearance, but ugly, obviously I think for both men and women, you
00:47:25.780
need to be physically attracted to your partner.
00:47:27.620
So, you know, probably, probably not, you know?
00:47:40.520
I got to, I'm, something's busted here on my thing.
00:47:43.180
Does anyone have a question they'd like to ask while I'm attempting to poorly get this
00:47:48.440
I'd like to know more about your dating life with trying to find someone who's also
00:47:52.800
celibate and what, does it define like you want a godly man?
00:47:58.120
Is that specifically Christianity or would it be like his definition of whatever his God
00:48:04.040
I'm a Christian, so I would hope he would reciprocate, be a Christian as well.
00:48:10.220
Or just, I guess, traditional, like a guy who submits himself under God and then I can
00:48:17.740
come under him because he's, you know, not a perfect man, but a perfectly submitted man
00:48:22.760
Because I feel like nowadays men are submitted to their porn addiction, men are submitted
00:48:29.160
But if I find someone, I feel like somebody who's submitted to God, I can work with that.
00:48:33.660
Where do you normally like find those types of men, like out in daily life?
00:48:43.080
But, you know, I'm in a smaller church, so it's kind of hard.
00:48:48.080
It's like a bunch of old people and then, you know, teenagers.
00:48:51.600
So, but dating apps, dating apps, they don't work for me.
00:48:55.380
You get a lot, like I said, you get a lot of attention, a lot of toxic tens, trying to
00:49:01.080
Like, kind of like what you were saying, like what you were saying, Brian, how would you
00:49:05.120
guys date a successful man who's like maybe five out of ten, whatever?
00:49:07.660
I totally would because I felt like we've, maybe we can all kind of relate, but hot guys
00:49:19.860
So, are you looking to be like a traditional partner, like a traditional wife?
00:49:25.200
I would hope he would find me as opposed to me soughting him out.
00:49:30.900
I mean, like when you find your partner, do you want to be like a traditional wife?
00:49:34.580
Do you want him to be the breadwinner and do all those things?
00:49:39.140
I mean, right now I have my own job and my own house, my own car, but I would definitely
00:49:44.280
want to pull back if, if you want to grow with me, if you want to decide to have children.
00:49:48.720
I would like to pull back and hopefully you would be the breadwinner and you can, you know,
00:49:52.060
take care of me and my, you know, your child, your legacy.
00:49:54.640
Hopefully you would have money to do that, you know?
00:49:59.760
Not necessarily, no, because I feel like I have like a lot of hobbies and things that
00:50:04.220
I'm interested in that I wouldn't just give up, but I feel like as being a woman, I would,
00:50:08.960
that's a huge part, like having a child, I feel like it's a huge part of being a woman.
00:50:14.940
So I do, I do play music at the church a lot, like twice a week.
00:50:19.860
And then respiratory therapist, healthcare is, it's hard out here.
00:50:26.620
I finally got this work and we have Prometheus here.
00:50:28.980
Instagram I'm cool with, but as a reasonable idea, only fans is a major red flag.
00:50:34.420
Also opinions is your rights, but facts tend to be more validating and valuable.
00:50:47.800
Talking to triggered OF female is worst, worst than talking with a vegetable brained patient.
00:50:53.860
Don't be mad because you won't ever get a guy of my caliber.
00:50:58.440
You'd be lucky to just be in the same room as me by accident in any event.
00:51:26.940
I had a couple notes here if I can finally pull them back up, guys.
00:51:30.080
So starting with, we have Azalea, is that, that's you?
00:51:36.480
So you said in your pre-show notes to us, men are hypocritical in what they want in a partner
00:51:43.820
For example, the Jonah Hill situation, men claim to want traditional partners and then
00:51:49.320
go after independent women with strong careers and expect, and expect to tame them.
00:51:58.040
And then there's a bit more, which I'll get into later, but we can start with the Jonah
00:52:01.260
So if you guys, who here is familiar with the whole Jonah Hill situation?
00:52:07.360
So basically Jonah Hill was, I guess, in a relationship with this chick.
00:52:13.820
And I guess they had had some conflict, some issues or something.
00:52:18.720
And he texted her, which he later kind of released, exposed him, whatever, saying that,
00:52:26.100
well, the text message was basically like, hey, here are my boundaries.
00:52:30.740
I don't want you associating with certain types of people.
00:52:33.520
I don't want you posting these kinds of photos on the internet, et cetera, et cetera.
00:52:37.240
And then he said something along the lines of, hey, if these things, like posting photos
00:52:43.040
on the internet or associating with these people brings you happiness, then no hard feelings.
00:52:49.200
I think what he's implying there is if it's an issue, like we can just break up, no hard
00:52:54.780
But this is just what I need for me to be happy in this relationship.
00:53:02.220
Because when he started dating that woman and started pursuing her, he was the one commenting
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And then when he finally got the woman that he wanted and was in a relationship with this
00:53:20.700
strong, independent woman with a successful career, he decided to implement his insecurities
00:53:31.360
And I don't know if you saw the photos that he was showing her he thought were inappropriate.
00:53:35.220
She was fully dressed in like a romper and just standing outside like at a brunch spot.
00:53:43.220
It's not like she's doing sex where her OnlyFans, he pursued a surfer and then told her she can't
00:53:54.640
But I mean, we don't, we don't know all the details, but it's, look, we don't know what
00:54:01.240
happened, but it seemed to me like she was associating with certain people that maybe
00:54:10.880
Jonah Hill, Jonah Hill's a darling of Hollywood.
00:54:20.980
Didn't he like write it into it or like, didn't he like also help produce it or something?
00:54:29.080
But you mean he was like in the movie, the actual movie, he was weird?
00:54:34.400
Like as an actor, he was portraying like an awkward 17 year old, 18 year old high school
00:54:48.060
I said he was weird in the movie Superbad with Emma Stone.
00:54:54.040
No, I understand because if the roles were reversed, should she be okay with his behavior
00:55:02.400
So if the roles are reversed, should she go, well, I don't want you to act then.
00:55:08.180
I don't want you to kiss women in scenes at your job.
00:55:12.320
Well, number one, she's not on that level, right?
00:55:15.240
But then number two, do you guys really think that that was the first conversation they had
00:55:20.140
I know for me, if that type of thing were to come up in that type of situation, that
00:55:24.160
text message, the way it was structured, that was not the first time.
00:55:30.160
Nobody knows the full extent aside from the two of them.
00:55:32.800
I would bet, though, that they had this conversation in person and that was a text reinforcing
00:55:39.500
Who brings something like that, that serious, up for the first time via text?
00:55:47.300
I think that what she said was, oh, she was a surfer before.
00:55:50.160
I think that once you get into a serious relationship, you're completely entitled to set boundaries.
00:55:54.380
The more serious a relationship becomes, the more likely it is and the more reasonable
00:55:58.760
it is for them to set those kind of boundaries.
00:56:00.820
But a boundary isn't something that you impose on somebody else.
00:56:03.900
I think that partnerships, I think it goes both ways.
00:56:16.060
I think it's completely normal to ask that when a relationship becomes more serious.
00:56:22.580
And like she said, I don't think this was the first time they talked about it.
00:56:28.380
But so do you think that if a man told you that you had to give up your career because
00:56:32.880
He said if you wanted to continue to surf with men, which let's be serious, the predominant
00:56:41.340
And if you're on a beach, there's going to be men there.
00:56:47.420
I mean, you can paddle out alone, you know, like.
00:56:51.400
But I mean, like if you have girlfriends and stuff.
00:56:53.940
But if you have a good opportunity, I mean, something like this or whatever the case may
00:56:57.960
be obviously not a podcast, but if you have an opportunity that includes men, are you supposed
00:57:02.380
to deny that if it's going to help your career just because your boyfriend's uncomfortable
00:57:06.860
Well, they claimed, and maybe you can weigh in on this.
00:57:09.240
I mean, she claimed to have been, I don't think she would like had really a major career
00:57:16.100
as like a model or like, I don't think she's a pro surfer.
00:57:21.440
But even if you're not pro, doesn't your career still matter?
00:57:24.080
I think it's within his right to try to assert these boundaries.
00:57:27.020
He's not necessarily, not necessarily tell her to follow them, but I think it's his right
00:57:30.680
to bring them to the table and whether or not she decides to agree with them or not.
00:57:35.400
I think that he was sort of setting up an ultimatum.
00:57:38.120
So he did it under the pretense that, hey, maybe this won't work out.
00:57:41.620
I don't think he was necessarily like trying to dictate what she did or what she didn't.
00:57:45.240
He was just setting what he wanted, what he expected out of the relationship.
00:57:48.440
I mean, he was just weaponizing therapy speak in order to assert.
00:57:52.600
Yeah, he was in order to give her an ultimatum and basically say, well, if you do X, Y,
00:57:56.780
and Z, the things she was already doing pre-relationship, I don't think that he should
00:58:00.600
have pursued her in the first place if that was things that he was uncomfortable with.
00:58:05.520
Men always want like the bad bitch, but then once they get the bad bitch, it's like they
00:58:10.600
And that's exactly what I texted Brian and like the things that I wanted to talk about.
00:58:14.620
So I'm so glad you brought that up because, oh my gosh, it's always like with Ariana Grande,
00:58:19.760
like the reason why she's getting divorced is because he couldn't handle having a bad bitch.
00:58:36.420
And I was going to bring that up too, that she's kind of like a pick me.
00:58:54.640
But okay, so you guys are saying that, you know, maybe he should have just not dated or
00:59:05.740
But isn't it fair to say that like prior to dating, he had no problem with her engaging
00:59:13.600
But once they started dating, he wanted her to act in a way that was commensurate with
00:59:24.900
But her on a surfboard isn't a revealing photo and her in a romper in front of a brunch spot
00:59:30.740
I guess it's subjective, but I don't think that if she's posting photos for her career
00:59:34.400
amateur or not, that it's okay for him to be like, you in a bikini is too revealing.
00:59:42.280
Yeah, didn't he like whip it out and like, yeah.
00:59:47.960
Also, the way men is sexualized is so different to women too.
00:59:50.600
The only thing we have though is what she chose to release.
00:59:56.200
And I mean, I don't know if you guys have ever been on the opposite side or maybe you've
01:00:02.440
But if someone ever speaks poorly about you, are they likely to reveal perhaps the ways
01:00:07.820
in which that maybe they contributed to the issue?
01:00:12.440
I mean, it's, you know, one, I think she's making herself to be a victim and people are
01:00:17.420
very good at not at taking themselves out of the situation and not telling the whole
01:00:23.000
truth and only the part that makes the other party look bad.
01:00:28.220
But we can only go off of what we've seen, right?
01:00:30.160
So, I mean, if we're basing it just off this conversation without any prior knowledge,
01:00:35.000
It looks like he started dating somebody that he knew did not fall in line with his morals
01:00:41.080
And I think that that was a waste of her time if we're going strictly off of that.
01:00:49.880
Wearing a bikini on the beach is not single behavior.
01:00:52.120
Are you saying it was a fatal attraction, basically?
01:00:53.420
I feel like we've all dated that guy where we probably shouldn't have, you know?
01:00:58.500
I'm not saying Jonah, but I'm just saying, like, he was attracted to her and maybe he
01:01:05.200
Like I said, I think it's fine to, like, impose boundaries once you're in a serious
01:01:08.980
On the same side, she could have said, oh, I'm not comfortable with what you do in the
01:01:12.140
And that would have been completely reasonable on her side.
01:01:14.680
Which I'm sure was, again, a private conversation that they had.
01:01:18.180
Because nobody brings that up for the first time over text.
01:01:20.840
Have you guys ever brought up something really that serious for the first time where it's
01:01:28.720
Okay, well, I'd say that that's objectively a pretty emotionally immature thing to do.
01:01:40.380
Maybe you're just, you're thinking, you're jumping straight ahead.
01:01:43.400
Well, she just said that he was using therapy speak.
01:01:45.380
Generally, someone who's been in therapy for that long to the point where they're able
01:01:47.860
to elicit therapy speak are a little bit more emotionally mature.
01:01:51.400
And I think they were both seeing the same therapist privately, so it's not necessarily
01:02:04.860
She released it, like, just after he had the baby with this new girl, right?
01:02:16.720
Haven't you guys ever tried getting a lick back?
01:02:21.840
If you're a victim of, like, emotional abuse, sometimes it takes a while to have the confidence
01:02:30.380
I'm just giving an example of her saying it took a...
01:02:37.840
A private conversation public is a major violation of boundaries.
01:02:41.920
If anyone was weaponizing therapy, it's the surfer but trying to damage his reputation.
01:02:58.320
Let's say Jonah misstepped in a couple of ways.
01:03:01.300
I think what she did, even though the relationship is over, absolutely, whatever Jonah could have
01:03:07.780
possibly done is, I don't know if I'm saying this right, is dwarfed by her exposing this
01:03:14.420
publicly because ultimately, I think it's such a non-story.
01:03:17.500
Like, okay, you guys had disagreements, whatever.
01:03:31.220
I don't think, like, he said, hey, if you don't want to...
01:03:41.620
Whether you disagree with his boundaries or not, that's another thing.
01:03:47.000
It's unclear the timeline of this, if they continue dating after that text message.
01:03:50.620
But I think to expose an ex like that, that's a greater grievance than him supposedly being
01:04:02.540
I mean, I can definitely agree with leaking the conversation being a move that I wouldn't
01:04:08.280
do years after a relationship because, again, it just seems vengeful more than anything else.
01:04:12.520
But I'm just strictly talking about the content and the text message.
01:04:15.020
I do agree that that action isn't correct either.
01:04:18.180
I've said earlier, two wrongs don't make a right.
01:04:20.020
I don't think she was right, necessarily, for doing that after the fact.
01:04:22.900
But I do think that he should have never pursued her if those were his boundaries.
01:04:26.740
And that is the person that he was going after.
01:04:33.620
Someone was going on something before the TTS came in.
01:04:45.040
Yo, thank you, man, for the $69 Streamlabs donation.
01:05:02.980
I don't think I'm ready for a kid like that, though.
01:05:06.760
Like, if the kid came out of me, that's one thing.
01:05:11.380
What if they were everything you're looking for?
01:05:23.020
But the thing is, I feel like, though, like, as a woman, if I don't have a child yet, you
01:05:28.320
But granted, everyone has their, you know, reasons why they're, you know, a single dad
01:05:42.200
That's probably a no for you, but for Texas twin dad.
01:05:49.620
Maybe we should ask him, are you okay with, like, a sperm donor?
01:06:08.700
Sorry, it's going to come back in here in just a sec.
01:06:17.720
While we wait for that, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
01:06:39.940
Just got to start by saying striped shirt is beyond beautiful.
01:06:44.200
Does your spirit ever feel drained from slash-only vans?
01:06:47.940
If not, how long do you think you'll be active?
01:06:54.140
I actually had a Bison Burger yesterday for the first time ever.
01:07:20.680
He said, does your spirit feel drained, though?
01:07:22.680
From, I think that's maybe directed at the other girls.
01:07:27.080
He was complimenting you, and then he was asking a question.
01:07:32.120
So, to the girls who do OF or who do adult content, does your spirit ever feel drained from doing it?
01:07:38.640
If not, how long do you think you'll be active doing adult content?
01:07:44.660
I don't feel drained by doing it, mostly because I don't really take it too seriously.
01:07:52.260
I just did it because I came on whatever, and all these guys wanted to send me money,
01:07:57.140
so I was kind of like, okay, well, I guess I'll make an OnlyFans.
01:07:59.440
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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You had an OnlyFans your first time on the show.
01:08:13.100
I made the account, but I had never posted anything.
01:08:16.840
Okay, but you having an OnlyFans predates your first appearance on whatever.
01:08:24.920
I just had it, and then I was like, okay, well, maybe I should post it.
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No, I'm not, I don't, the people that subscribe to my OnlyFans are definitely whatever viewers.
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See, they're shit talkers, but low key, they're just, they go and subscribe to their OnlyFans.
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And no, I don't think I will be doing it forever.
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I'm mostly just doing it because I am going to school.
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I've had a lot, I ran into a lot of issues recently that have involved needing a lot of money, and I thank God that I've had OnlyFans to be there for me and to help me out.
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And I definitely, I don't know, I guess I appreciate being, coming on here and getting OnlyFans subscribers.
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I would say more the negativity, negativity, is draining, like just in general.
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Wow, okay, Davon Jackson, shooting shots at the simps, okay.
01:10:06.380
I feel like you actually, you want to be the simp for the guy.
01:10:10.640
Like, you want a guy who you can simp for, right?
01:10:24.840
Technically, the acronym is Sucker Idolizing Mediocre Pussy, but the way it is actually utilized
01:10:29.760
in society just means guys who are pedestalizing women.
01:10:32.500
Any man who is pedestalizing a woman is a simp, essentially.
01:10:36.880
I, for some reason, I'm really attracted to guys that, like, don't want me and want nothing
01:10:45.740
You're really attracted to guys who want nothing to do with you.
01:10:49.320
Like, the first guy that I have, like, that I was, like, really seriously, like, obsessed
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with in high school, he didn't even want to hang out with me.
01:10:58.800
Like, we would hang out, like, once a week, maybe.
01:11:02.040
And I would, like, yeah, I would, like, bug the shit out of him.
01:11:04.460
And I'd be like, let's hang out, let's hang out, let's hang out.
01:11:09.900
Thank God I never thought I would be able to do it.
01:11:15.200
And I mostly think it was because he just didn't want anything to do with me.
01:11:23.440
No, I was just saying that being on the internet in general is kind of draining.
01:11:50.420
Yeah, that was a matching tattoo with a family member.
01:12:06.920
Is that like, what kind of culture is that from?
01:12:24.060
Oh, my uncle has one of those same tattoos, but it's two lightning bolts.
01:12:28.240
And then I think on your photo, it's not visible now.
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I have a shrimp with a trucker hat that says cunt on it.
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She like reminds me of a shrimp and she has this hat that says I put the cunt in country.
01:12:53.960
So I just got a shrimp, but they couldn't fit the whole thing.
01:13:15.960
Because you guys are all kind of friends, sort of.
01:13:19.340
So I was curious because you all have like you're all blasted with tats.
01:13:22.020
I was curious, like, did you guys meet at like a death metal concert?
01:13:28.760
Like how do you all get connected with people who are just, you know, at the tattoo shop or what?
01:13:51.540
How in the world do you think the Omni Vans life is okay with a good man?
01:14:00.820
If you want that life and don't value yours, then fair enough.
01:14:12.500
There is a lot of good men out there that respect OnlyFans girls, and to say that there is no good men out there and to say that none of us are going to find good men is such a mean thing to say because it's almost saying that none of us are worthy of love or worthy of finding a good man, which is so mean.
01:14:31.520
But do you guys think, those of you that do OnlyFans, do you think that there's certainly men that are going to date you, but do you think you have to some degree eliminated or minimized, we don't know the exact percentage, your dating pool?
01:14:48.540
Because there are men out there that it's just they don't want to date someone who does sex work.
01:14:55.660
So have, because of what you guys do, have any of you encountered any struggles when it comes to dating?
01:15:02.680
Have you met a guy who's just like, hey, this is too much for me, or has it impacted your romantic pursuits?
01:15:09.260
I would say that it already kind of eliminates people who aren't for me in general, because even if I didn't personally have an OnlyFans, I would be supportive of other people who were doing it.
01:15:19.620
And I just feel like my personality, like I'm very open and fluid, and I'm more aligned with people like that.
01:15:28.080
I think there are always going to be, no matter what you do, people that are just automatically eliminated from your dating pool.
01:15:33.080
I am kind of like you, I'm super open, and I, you know, I support sex workers, I support all types of sex workers, and I wouldn't want to be with somebody that didn't align with that as well.
01:15:43.960
So, yeah, I guess they eliminate themselves, because I wouldn't want to be with them either.
01:15:50.100
How would you feel about your daughter doing sex work?
01:15:54.300
But if you did, like, no, like, just try to put yourself in the hypothetical a little bit.
01:15:57.840
I would be supportive, because in my situation, I would like my mom to be supportive with it.
01:16:02.880
So, I would be supportive if my daughter chose to do anything with her life, as long, we're not hurting anyone.
01:16:11.540
And it's kind of sad that you guys are, keep, like, kind of pushing, making us feel like we're bad people.
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Kind of, like, almost, sorry, kind of almost, like, discourage us and, like, shame us, which, like, we're not hurting anyone.
01:16:27.040
There's people, like, that are hurting the planet, hurting children.
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So, I feel like to worry really about OnlyFans girls is just so unfair.
01:16:36.960
Simps are making these talentless, no life experience.
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They count their acts and pay sweaty fat dudes to chat with you while they laugh.
01:16:48.220
Stop contributing to the downfall of society, LLLL.
01:17:02.060
So, I'm kind of working hard so that I, you know, I'm financially stable in the future.
01:17:08.160
I'm taking all my OnlyFans money and trying to save and invest it because everyone's experience is different.
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I went to OnlyFans because it was, I grew up very, very poor and OnlyFans, I realized you can make money quickly.
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I was working, like, 60-hour work weeks before OnlyFans and this was just, like, a lot more freedom for me and a new experience.
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But, basically, I'm trying to work really, really hard so that my daughter wouldn't have to do OnlyFans unless she wanted to.
01:17:33.940
Like I said, I got into it mainly for the money to support myself.
01:17:38.880
But, so, if my daughter wants to do it, then she can and I'll support her.
01:17:44.100
Would any of you do it if it weren't for the money?
01:17:47.120
If you could make the equal amount of money with, like, you know, reasonable amount of effort, you know, because I'm sure you still need to put in some effort, right?
01:17:52.600
I'm sure you need to exercise real business skills, promotion, networking, all those things.
01:17:56.960
So, say you could do that but to another industry and make equal amount of money.
01:18:00.560
Well, it depends because I really like the time freedom that I get from it because sometimes I'll work.
01:18:07.020
Well, yeah, I guess if I could still make my own schedule, if there was something else I was passionate about, I would be open to it.
01:18:12.280
But, I actually really enjoy a lot of aspects of doing OnlyFans.
01:18:15.440
And, for the question about if I had a daughter, I would just want her to be honest with me and safe.
01:18:20.600
And, I would prefer if she was maybe a little older, not, like, freshly 18 doing it.
01:18:25.420
Just so she doesn't, like, regret some of her choices.
01:18:28.140
But, I think, you know, if I had a daughter, she would be her own person and I can't really, like, dictate her decisions.
01:18:35.520
But, I do think it's going to be a lot more accepted going forward.
01:18:38.820
I kind of feel like we were the guinea pigs during COVID when everyone started doing it and, like, not knowing the consequences and how it would play out.
01:18:48.600
Would you guys be okay with your mom doing OnlyFans?
01:18:57.060
But, if she wanted to, I mean, I have no problem with that.
01:19:14.240
It's somewhat around 15 to 30 bucks a month from total pathetic idiots who will never have a shot getting anything else of them.
01:19:29.880
Everyone just want to blurt out really quick your monthly OF fee?
01:19:53.820
So, you were saying that OnlyFans doesn't hurt anybody, but I would disagree personally.
01:19:57.840
I would say that having, well, not having, well, yeah.
01:20:00.420
I'd say that distributing that kind of content is just hurting, like, men and other people who decide to buy it.
01:20:06.060
It's just perpetuating, I don't want to say degeneracy, but it's perpetuating behaviors that set people back rather than forward.
01:20:11.760
So, for example, you're contributing to porn addiction, you're contributing to a lot of things, you're normalizing OnlyFans, and it's basically, I wouldn't say you personally are endorsing it and, like, telling younger girls, oh, do this, it's getting me money, but as a whole, I think that the promotion of OnlyFans is doing that.
01:20:27.800
I think that, unfortunately, 18-year-old girls are fresh out of high school, and they're doing this because other girls are saying, oh, it's getting me money, and it's like, I feel like you haven't really explored your other options.
01:20:39.640
I feel like if, you did say you were talented, I don't know what your talents are personally, but I feel like if you were to utilize those talents and use them to the best of your ability, you could do better things than be a part of an industry that's hurting people, like, the consumers and the people who are creating.
01:20:57.640
You hear about, like, girls who are, like, 17, who literally, when they're about to turn 18, are promoting, no, they're promoting it, being like, hey, my 18th birthday, this is about to drop, like, that's crazy and kind of disturbing.
01:21:08.020
Like, I'm sure we can all at least admit that that's kind of disturbing, that culture that is being developed.
01:21:13.600
I see what you're saying, and I definitely do have my limits, and I do have boundaries when it comes to OnlyFans.
01:21:21.960
I think OnlyFans is actually much more ethical than porn, because these girls, we're basically our own managers or whatever.
01:21:34.220
The girls that work with other people, they choose who they want to do scenes with.
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I feel like that's honestly more ethical than going to, like, you know, like, watching regular porn, you know?
01:21:52.440
When I see women that do have OnlyFans and that are older and that are promoting it to younger women and stating that this is so great, you're making so much money so fast, the majority of women that are on OnlyFans are not making massive amounts of cash.
01:22:05.240
Like, the industry standard, what is this, like, $600 a month or something?
01:22:07.640
Yeah, it's not a lot unless you already have a platform and, you know, have grown your, you know, whatever.
01:22:13.840
I don't think that any of us should be promoting or saying, hey, you're freshly 18, you should hop on this.
01:22:19.680
And there are women that do that and try to sign women up just to get a referral from them.
01:22:38.300
I will always be honest about the negatives of doing it because there are pros and cons to literally everything.
01:22:43.840
But when you're freshly 18, you don't know what the consequences are.
01:22:47.240
You don't know what it's going to do to affect your mental health.
01:22:52.480
So, you know, I had started nude modeling when I was younger.
01:22:57.700
I took a lot of time to decide, okay, these are the things that I would be okay with doing, you know, on my account and the things that I would be okay with having leaked, et cetera, before I came to that decision.
01:23:08.700
And I don't think that freshly 18-year-old women have the mental capacity to really understand what they're doing.
01:23:17.160
And that's crazy because I never knew there was any kind of incentive for referrals.
01:23:22.300
I mean, it would have had some type of impact on culture regardless.
01:23:26.600
But the fact that there is a financial incentivization for that is really fucked up, yo.
01:23:36.760
They're just perpetuating this idea of, oh, you're going to be freshly 18.
01:23:43.760
I mean, the reason that I make any sort of money was because I already had a very large following.
01:23:49.740
And I signed up and could immediately start making money.
01:23:58.980
I would never perpetuate that to an 18-year-old woman.
01:24:02.040
Or I would always say, you know, here are the pros.
01:24:05.020
This is what you need to think about before you do it.
01:24:06.860
Because, you know, obviously I understand that there's a stigma with it.
01:24:10.360
And there's things that will follow you for the rest of your life.
01:24:14.760
And I think these 18-year-old women as well might push themselves too far into doing a type of content that maybe later on they'll regret.
01:24:30.120
If they only knew what a real man that would take care of them would actually do for them.
01:24:37.740
A real man would provide for and take care of them.
01:24:47.860
How many of you, just on his thing really quick, and if you guys want to pick back up on your convo thread.
01:24:55.760
He's prepared to, he wants to marry you, have kids, blah, maybe you don't want to have kids.
01:25:07.520
Here, why don't we start with you and we'll go this way.
01:25:15.040
I mean, the whole purpose of doing OnlyFans is to provide for myself.
01:25:18.260
So if he's also giving me that same outcome, then yes, I would quit.
01:25:22.620
Would he need to provide on a level that is commensurate with your level of income on your own?
01:25:36.520
Shaming is a necessary part of society, because without shame we have no way to learn consequences from our life choices.
01:25:46.040
Our consequences have nothing to do with you, though.
01:25:50.060
Yeah, they are when people trauma dump and stuff.
01:26:02.060
The consequences that you face, like, ultimately, like, they're reflected in your character.
01:26:07.820
Like, the way that you approach relationships, I'd say, like, I'm not saying you specifically,
01:26:11.860
but I'd say, like, when you go into new relationships, all the, like, consequences in the past that you've faced because of your past behaviors,
01:26:19.600
They really do influence the way that a relationship might go.
01:26:22.460
So say, like, you had a hoe phase or something, that'll definitely influence someone.
01:26:26.600
Like, the consequences that you've paid for having a hoe phase.
01:26:33.980
Oh, because, see, you're damned if you do something, you're damned if you don't.
01:26:39.860
I feel like Neb's a little lower energy tonight.
01:26:48.000
So the question was, because, you know, some people who do OF make a lot of money,
01:26:52.960
so, you know, maybe expecting a guy to be making $50,000 a month might not.
01:27:01.700
But let's say he's making enough to, like, provide for both of you.
01:27:08.960
I would only be worried about divorce, what happens in that instance.
01:27:13.180
If you're not set up and you're just left alone, like, in the dark, no money, nothing.
01:27:19.240
A lot of men are, like, I recently saw a TikTok where it was, like, this wife,
01:27:24.040
and she was, like, this husband was, like, yelling at her for whatever reason.
01:27:28.040
And because she supposedly doesn't do anything, but she stays home and takes care of the kids,
01:27:35.080
And then her husband is just, like, all of a sudden saying that he wants a divorce
01:27:38.440
because, oh, he, like, met a younger lady who's, like, you know, younger,
01:27:44.140
and that's all they want, or more beautiful, whatever.
01:27:49.380
Usually the man tends to, like, start their own life with their new family,
01:27:54.040
I mean, leave the kids and then, like, let the woman, like, fend for herself, basically.
01:27:58.640
And I feel like that happens a lot more often than you really think,
01:28:05.720
It's also worth pointing out and mentioning that women that are doing all of the household chores
01:28:10.660
and labor, that's actually $10 trillion worth of unpaid labor.
01:28:28.980
The household labor that they don't get compensated for,
01:28:31.560
that they're doing while their men are off at work,
01:28:34.740
But, I mean, do you think they should be compensated?
01:28:40.180
It's just comparing how hard, like, how hard their labor is compared to, like,
01:28:45.660
Because a lot of men that end up calling themselves the breadwinner,
01:28:49.500
and they come home and they say, well, you're not doing anything.
01:28:51.780
Like, I go out and I work all day while she's taking care of the home.
01:29:09.060
I mean, like, but, okay, let's, so in your example.
01:29:14.360
So in your example, you're saying the guy who's the sole breadwinner,
01:29:18.120
he's working 9 to 5, he's working 40, 50 hours a week,
01:29:24.420
Is that kind of the framework that you're, because wouldn't it make sense
01:29:29.280
that if he's out working and she's the homemaker that she would be homemaking?
01:29:34.180
Well, no, I'm not saying that that shouldn't be some sort of dynamic,
01:29:43.660
The gate is wide and the path to damnation is well-traveled.
01:29:50.540
Why would you put something idolizing a place of eternal torment on your body?
01:30:08.620
Why would you put something idolizing a place of eternal torment
01:30:14.720
They're talking about her because she has a hell tattoo.
01:30:23.380
It's a depiction, an artistic depiction of. . . .
01:30:29.860
I guess you are condemned to eternal damnation.
01:30:38.260
Go back to your point about the division of labor or housework.
01:30:42.680
Well, I'm not saying that a traditional relationship where a man is doing the gender role of going
01:30:47.420
out and being a breadwinner and the woman staying home and homemaking and taking care
01:30:51.140
of children, I'm not saying that shouldn't be a dynamic, but I'm saying that it's wrong
01:30:54.500
when the husband comes home and says, well, you're not doing X, Y, and Z.
01:30:57.740
What your wife is doing when she's homemaking is still labor, whether or not she's being compensated.
01:31:02.600
So to hold money over her head and act like she's not doing anything while she's sitting
01:31:06.120
at home, raising your family, cooking your meals, cleaning your house, organizing everything,
01:31:10.000
keeping your schedule on track, that's still labor.
01:31:13.820
And they've, I believe it was the Bureau of Labor Statistics that said that women's unpaid
01:31:27.640
Like all of the women in the world that are homemaking and are doing household chores
01:31:32.720
and keeping schedules together and raising families and cooking and cleaning and doing
01:31:39.560
And they said the unpaid amount of money is $10 trillion.
01:31:42.380
So what I'm saying is that it's not right for a man to come home and be like, you're not
01:31:48.080
We're saying, give up your OnlyFans, be a homemaker, and you could potentially end up
01:31:52.240
in a divorce situation where he goes, oh, well, you're not doing anything, leaves and
01:31:56.060
takes all the money with you while you've created a home and had done what he wanted
01:32:00.840
you to do and basically deems the work that you've done worthless.
01:32:03.680
Yeah, but if your husband is going, I'll get to you in a sec, Allie.
01:32:06.760
If your husband is working a nine to five job and you are, he's providing, he's providing
01:32:12.980
financially for the both of you, then you are pulling your half of the bargain or pulling
01:32:21.480
But I don't, why are you viewing it from a lens of it being unpaid?
01:32:35.100
First, I wanted to say that, well, okay, never mind.
01:32:40.540
I don't want to say this right now because I backtracked myself a little bit.
01:32:47.440
It's because you're really focused on saying like, oh, well, if you're going to stay
01:32:51.220
home, then you need, you, you need to get paid.
01:32:53.620
I feel like that's what you're kind of trying to, you know, like, that's not what I'm saying.
01:32:57.900
But are you trying to argue that men don't value the work that women do?
01:33:05.800
I mean, what, what evidence do you have for that?
01:33:08.740
So, I mean, here's why, because you cited to this, well, the, the Department of Labor,
01:33:15.260
they, they tabulated that it's trillions of dollars that women are doing in unpaid labor
01:33:21.520
as if all those women, they, it is unappreciated by their husbands, the work that they do.
01:33:29.040
Perhaps it's the case that there are some men who are unappreciative or, or not cognizant
01:33:38.060
Although I don't think that's really, I don't, what evidence is there for that?
01:33:42.040
I mean, I think there's expectations that come in matrimonial relationships in general
01:33:45.820
and whether or not they want to conform to that traditional, oh, the woman does the house
01:33:49.620
cleaning, the men does that, is up to them entirely.
01:33:54.760
Like, I clean up his dishes and I do whatever and I don't, like, and just the way that he
01:34:05.640
I think everything he does for me is enough for me.
01:34:11.240
I work around 15 ton steel rolls that are suspended above my head.
01:34:22.440
Yo, Bender, and I'll let you come in just after this really quick.
01:34:25.260
Bender, the offender, thank you very much for your TTS.
01:34:28.960
And also, I mean, what about all the household labor that men do, which is uncompensated for
01:34:35.220
For example, men are typically expected to take care of some of the more physically laborious
01:34:40.480
tasks like mowing the lawn, fixing appliances around the house, potentially car-related things.
01:34:47.460
So, I mean, there's certainly tasks that men undertake, for example, that might, you know,
01:34:52.340
something that's heavy that might need to be moved around.
01:34:54.720
And so, I don't think it's just women that are contributing to the upkeep of the household.
01:35:01.520
I think what you're kind of missing on is that we were talking about that when men, what you
01:35:09.480
brought up the question, saying that, would you give up your OnlyFans if a man was going
01:35:16.220
And then that's why we said, well, like if we give up our OnlyFans, like whatever, give
01:35:22.160
up whatever job because the man, your husband, is like, I want you to stay home.
01:35:28.940
I want you to do this, and then all of a sudden he finds a younger lady, whatever, finds somebody
01:35:35.440
better, and then he's like, see you later, and then like leaves the whole family.
01:35:40.000
And then now you're the man, because of the man, because of the man, because he said, because
01:35:44.640
of the husband, he said, sorry, he said, no, I don't want you to work.
01:35:49.780
I want you to stay here and watch my kids, raise my children, clean my house, do all of
01:35:57.520
I think you're just choosing the wrong people then.
01:35:59.320
What do you mean you were choosing the wrong people?
01:36:03.360
We can find a man, he can be the most amazing person ever, a few years along the line, he
01:36:11.420
What do you mean we're choosing the wrong people?
01:36:15.560
Yes, that is your choice to leave, but you can also be so screwed.
01:36:19.080
This man could be the perfect man and be like, oh my goodness, have you not, like, seen, like,
01:36:24.140
what's been going on, have you not seen what's been going on recently with all the men that
01:36:28.180
have, like, their families because their wife has wanted a divorce?
01:36:38.220
Women are more likely to initiate divorces than men are.
01:36:40.580
And then when they initiate it, the men get scared and they want to inflict the most pain
01:36:44.140
upon their woman, upon that woman, and then they end up, have you not heard about what's
01:36:59.840
This is about, like, disdain and relationships.
01:37:03.380
And you are using true crime examples as these moments of disdain.
01:37:05.900
Well, I think, like, the point she's trying to make, sorry to cut you off, is, like, financial
01:37:09.680
abuse, like, if you are stuck in a relationship where you pretty much gave up your source of
01:37:14.800
income, where you could comfortably support your own lifestyle independently, and to answer
01:37:19.980
the question if I would do that or not, if I trusted someone, if I was in love with them,
01:37:23.800
and they could really, like, afford to do that.
01:37:25.680
But people get, like, played with that all the time.
01:37:28.820
But this idea that men in droves are leaving their wives for, like, the younger, you know,
01:37:39.680
But I actually don't think it's as common as actually women leaving their husbands.
01:37:44.280
Well, I don't know the reasons why, but women are more likely to initiate divorces.
01:37:49.120
So men should be more concerned about negative divorce or negative outcomes.
01:37:53.280
If you're not satisfied with your relationship, you're entirely entitled to leave.
01:37:57.180
But how are you supposed to leave when you're being financially abused and have no source of income?
01:38:00.640
That's exactly what we've been trying to make this.
01:38:03.320
I was like, whoa, that's what I was thinking this whole time.
01:38:06.900
I'm like, how does it relate to the question, though?
01:38:08.760
Divorce was not included in that question originally.
01:38:17.200
Well, financial abuse is basically what we were describing,
01:38:19.860
where you give up your entire career for a man in a relationship, a partnership,
01:38:26.600
You get X amount of money to do X, Y, Z, and it's, oh, well, I go out and I make all of the money.
01:38:31.140
You only have access to X, Y, and Z, and that's what I choose that you have access to after you give up your career.
01:38:36.520
And then if you choose to leave that man, you are left with, depending on how long you've been with them,
01:38:44.640
If you had signed a prenup, there's no alimony.
01:38:49.640
And then how are you supposed to leave that relationship?
01:38:51.860
Well, it was your choice to agree to those terms.
01:38:57.140
Well, prenups, you can define the terms, right?
01:39:01.000
I was going to say, it was your choice to give up those freedoms in the first place
01:39:04.580
because you were dependent on that man in the first place.
01:39:06.300
You said, okay, you could be the breadwinner of this household.
01:39:11.180
But there's always that risk that comes with that.
01:39:13.300
And if you want to avoid that risk, then you're entitled to do your own thing.
01:39:22.840
Like, you've gone so far left that you've, like, made a 180.
01:39:28.600
Yeah, like, or whatever, whichever direction you're going, girl.
01:39:31.900
Whichever direction you're going, like, you just exactly, you literally, like, explained
01:39:43.060
I just thought recently that prenups, you can actually set your own condition.
01:39:46.040
So I think it should come down to the terms of a relationship, right?
01:39:48.580
So if someone, if a man says, hey, I want to have a tradcom relationship, I want you
01:39:52.280
to stay at home and raise the children, then it is your, the onus of responsibility is on
01:39:57.300
you as that wife and as the future mother to be able to say, put these terms in the
01:40:01.840
prenup to where if I leave you, for sure, that's on me.
01:40:05.540
But hey, if you're, if, if you decide to leave me and I have no accolades, no resume,
01:40:10.340
nothing, and I'm forced to go out in the workforce, then I'm protected.
01:40:13.720
You can actually set prenups to be in alignment with whatever conditions the couple decides.
01:40:18.260
So it should be up to the individual couple at the end of the day.
01:40:21.560
And people should go into these things with their eyes wide open and educate themselves.
01:40:27.780
But the thing is with, um, that most women are getting told like, okay, like we will be
01:40:40.800
Like most women won't leave the relationship because they know they are being financially
01:40:49.240
They won't leave because they know that they are screwed.
01:40:51.720
You're the one who agreed to the trad con lifestyle in the first place.
01:40:57.440
If you're going into a marriage and the, and the husband wants a prenup, which would then
01:41:01.300
dispose you to that position in the first place, then be a contributor to set the terms.
01:41:06.100
Where if he is saying, I want you to stay at home and only serve me, then there should
01:41:12.640
Well, then there should be some allowance where he says, okay, then legally there will
01:41:15.740
be a contract to where if I leave you for, you know, whatever reason, then you will be
01:41:22.420
What if it's just a relationship and there's no prenup involved?
01:41:25.640
Well, if you're just, I mean, well, there's common law, right?
01:41:30.700
There is common law, actually, that I don't know how it is actually in America.
01:41:33.480
So maybe someone could clarify for me if you guys know.
01:41:35.960
But in Australia, when you've been living with someone for two years, we're in a de facto
01:41:38.680
relationship and most of the same things pertain as what is an actual legal marriage.
01:41:47.000
There are some common law marriage states, but most states are not common law marriage.
01:42:03.340
You will never get the perfect man you want because you don't deserve him.
01:42:07.160
Nothing is more attractive to a man than the hardworking woman like an ER nurse.
01:42:12.220
Actually, I recently read a study that nurses, especially like those who work in emergency
01:42:16.500
setting or overnight setting, are like the most likely to cheat, apparently.
01:42:28.120
Well, I never said that I should be praised for having an OnlyFans.
01:42:35.160
And also, like, I hate to use the word privilege, but not everybody has the privilege to afford
01:42:41.420
an education to go into things like health care.
01:42:44.100
Like, I'm just now, because of OnlyFans, able to afford to go back to school to get a
01:42:52.060
Yeah, so the scenario is different with each and every individual.
01:42:57.780
I have a full-time job, and I also do content creation.
01:43:00.240
So you can have a regular job, be an ER nurse, and also do content creation in OnlyFans.
01:43:34.380
I've been in therapy for two years, so it's like, let's go.
01:43:44.380
Just because you don't agree with everything that I say or do, I'm not a lost cause.
01:44:10.100
A man who is willing to let his woman sell herself isn't your man.
01:44:26.660
Also, pimp, he would have to be taking a cut of my money for that to be the dynamic in
01:44:35.020
Either a pimp would accept that cause he is making money or a simp would accept it because
01:44:43.480
It would be a pimp in my category cause I do love to spoil my man that I'm seeing so
01:44:55.880
My friends tell me I need to stop spending money on the men that I see so quickly.
01:45:00.240
I think you did include something in your pre- we'll get to that in a sec here.
01:45:04.780
So you simp for your- actually a question for you guys.
01:45:08.900
So let's say you- and maybe you've had this experience with a past guy for those of you
01:45:15.640
A new guy comes in and maybe he's down to help you film or something.
01:45:19.800
Does he get a cut or in the past, have you ever given a cut to a guy that you were seeing?
01:45:27.460
So the only time I ever did like BG content that I actually like put on my OnlyFans was
01:45:37.480
A lot of my fans coming from my YouTube channel would subscribe to his page as well and basically
01:45:43.700
So it never became a situation where I was like selling sex tapes and giving him a cut or
01:45:48.420
And that's actually a huge reason- one of like the many reasons why I don't cross that
01:45:52.580
boundary because I feel like it can get messy when like your romantic partners, you're like
01:45:56.640
paying them out and then, you know, you're the face of the content.
01:46:01.080
I just feel like it is kind of hard to find an ideal arrangement with that and some people
01:46:05.740
do and I think that's great for them but it can get messy.
01:46:14.960
I've never done BG content or anything like that.
01:46:17.980
So I've never really had- it was never a necessity for somebody to help me in that regard.
01:46:23.600
I do what SC does and I just spoil my boyfriend with my earnings.
01:46:38.880
We stayed in Tokyo for a bit in Shimao Akitazawa.
01:46:41.420
I was there for a month living through study abroad but then he came and joined me and it
01:46:49.840
Well, I paid for like some of like gifts and stuff.
01:46:55.060
Like, I went to Hawaii for a bit and like I spent the last of my money on him but I don't
01:47:00.400
Like, I think traveling with a significant other really just-
01:47:10.780
You were compensating for the fact that you were like trying to make it up to him because
01:47:22.740
I personally wasn't simping but I love this man to death.
01:47:36.440
Like, because we both liked One Piece and then we went to like the One Piece like thing
01:48:01.980
Um, I've paid my friends to suck their dick for my OnlyFans.
01:48:16.860
The last two exes that I had on my OnlyFans, I paid for everything, pretty much.
01:48:53.240
So underscore privileged underscore underscore underscore toxin.
01:48:58.520
Only in America are women's lives so privileged that they feel zero shame in claiming that
01:49:04.100
a man who is sacrificing everything to commit to plus support a wife financially is abusing
01:49:14.940
You did use the term abusing, which I thought was interesting.
01:49:21.820
I would be willing to say that those women in other countries are also being financially
01:49:26.900
I mean, but the way you described it, it wasn't clear.
01:49:30.120
You said if a guy is the primary breadwinner and he has a allowance for his wife that doesn't
01:49:41.020
You said here's how much you can spend or something like that.
01:49:43.980
Well, I'm saying that if he's holding money over his partner's head or not giving her
01:49:47.520
anything or even just holding it over her head in general.
01:49:55.680
I've seen stories of women that have been told, oh, well, you get $500 for the week and
01:50:00.160
she has four kids and she's running out of grocery money and her husband's refusing
01:50:06.160
No, this is in an actual marriage and this happens all the time.
01:50:15.340
I'm not saying that it's like 100% of marriages, but there are plenty of partnerships that end
01:50:20.340
My twin sister, she is a stay-at-home wife and they waited to marry to have sex and it
01:50:26.080
They fast-forwarded that really quick, that process, but she's happy and she...
01:50:32.760
That doesn't happen all the time, unfortunately.
01:50:33.800
I know, but I'm just saying like I've seen the good sides.
01:50:36.600
Well, no, it's good to shed light on the good sides.
01:50:41.880
He stays at home and they see each other all the time and she does whatever she needs
01:50:47.300
That sounds like a very healthy traditional relationship and those definitely exist, but
01:50:51.160
we were talking about earlier just if we had to be in that situation, like what would be
01:50:55.140
the negatives of why we might not give up our OnlyFans or our jobs in order to be with
01:51:01.520
If that's what both people want and it's healthy and it's happy, I fully support that.
01:51:05.440
I think that people should do what's best for them, but if a woman is in a situation
01:51:08.800
where a man is holding money overhead, she can't keep the household afloat based on what
01:51:12.260
he's giving her and he's consistently saying, well, I'm the breadwinner.
01:51:21.920
Not only it's like financially abusive, it's also emotionally abusive and manipulative.
01:51:31.880
I actually had a girlfriend recently where she met a guy and he told her, quit your job,
01:51:43.120
She worked in nightlife, but she was like a hostess, perfectly respectable, like normal
01:51:50.280
And then some stuff happened to him personally and he wasn't in as great of a situation anymore
01:51:55.900
And now she's pretty much screwed and it's been like a huge stress in her life.
01:52:00.360
So I'm just saying you can't like assume everything's going to be like peaches and daisies going
01:52:27.540
She flew to a foreign country to help bail him out of jail.
01:52:39.020
Cause she basically took a leap of faith and was like, okay, I'll quit my job.
01:52:46.140
And she's, how long did this relationship last?
01:52:49.440
They're still, you know, in a really big pickle because of her decisions to be with him.
01:52:56.100
He was paying the entire rent on their apartment.
01:53:15.740
The risks that come with making such a commitment to like completely discard your financial like.
01:53:24.020
What's abusive is these 304s of using the word abuse.
01:53:35.340
Anyways, I think it's wise to like weigh out the risks that cut.
01:53:43.100
Everybody, please thank Alvin for the, please, you know, give it a little thing.
01:53:48.160
I think it's wise to weigh out the risks when it comes to committing to something that sort
01:53:51.700
of gets rid of your financial freedoms and, you know, survivability outside of the relationship.
01:53:57.560
I think that to avoid situations like that, you should really, really, really, yeah, not
01:54:04.540
It's your choice whether or not to keep working.
01:54:06.340
I personally would keep working, but, and, and I don't know.
01:54:09.960
I just think that considering the risks when like entering any sort of situation that's
01:54:14.380
life altering is probably the best thing you can do for yourself so you can avoid like
01:54:18.960
getting into these crazy situations where like, you know.
01:54:23.680
But not 30 minutes ago, you said that you would give up your job for your boyfriend.
01:54:30.980
I'm saying personally, I would, I wouldn't give away my job, but I would dedicate most
01:54:36.760
You underscore are underscore abusing underscore are underscore rears donated $99.
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The rabbit's sense of entitlement foaming from Redhead's mouth as she decries these imaginary
01:54:48.060
husks holding money over their wives' heads, called budgeting by adult human beings to avoid
01:55:00.360
I mean, couldn't you make the argument like the husband is looking out for the finances
01:55:04.020
and budgeting like, okay, don't, don't go buy this thing because we don't have the money
01:55:14.860
Like to play devil's advocate, like I've been debating against them the whole night, but
01:55:19.840
That's what occurs most of the time, but financial abuse also does exist.
01:55:24.460
You can't conflate the two in my personal opinion.
01:55:27.360
If you're budgeting, I think both parties know and are aware of that.
01:55:30.620
And the other side isn't just like, oh, abuse, you know, like I think they're very
01:55:38.320
We were talking a bit about the Jonah Hill situation.
01:55:40.380
There was also something recently that's kind of related to that.
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This singer called, I don't know if baby Rexha, is that how you, Bebi?
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So she also leaked text messages from her boyfriend.
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Scroll to the top so we can actually read it out.
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It says, hey, I never said you weren't beautiful.
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Her singer, I guess, famous, never heard of her.
01:56:28.060
This is a text message, not that she sent, but that her boyfriend sent.
01:56:31.800
And if you can scroll it out just a bit so we can actually read the.
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I never said you weren't beautiful and I never said I didn't love you.
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In fact, I said how beautiful you are and how much I loved you.
01:56:44.440
But I always said I would be honest with you and your face was changing.
01:56:48.600
That was the conversation we were having and you asked because I care.
01:56:54.680
Obviously, you gained weight and your face changes.
01:56:56.940
Should I just pretend it didn't happen and that it's okay?
01:56:59.760
I gained three pounds and you call me chubs and fat.
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If you're trying to find reasons to break up, this makes sense.
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If you're unhappy with me slash yourself slash with life and don't see a future with us,
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Don't use something like that to weaponize your anger or anxiety or any insecurity you may have.
01:57:17.060
You know I always found you to be beautiful and loved you no matter something.
01:57:21.780
I think it's important for you to think about things and write things down.
01:57:28.700
Speak to a therapist and do this retreat thing to get to the root of the problem.
01:57:33.340
Let me know if you'd like to speak or if you need more clarity.
01:57:36.800
So text message from her, I suppose, now ex-boyfriend.
01:57:39.940
And she posted this to her Instagram, so somewhat related to the Jonah Hill situation
01:57:46.340
because she is releasing what is otherwise private communications.
01:57:57.720
So I'm trying to understand a little bit because she only released that text message.
01:58:04.060
From what he's saying, it sounds like she asked him at some previous points,
01:58:09.940
some prior point, to give her feedback on her appearance.
01:58:14.040
We don't know if she literally just texted him like, hey, does this outfit make me look?
01:58:20.700
But does anyone know kind of the details of this?
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She just kind of released that and went with that.
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So, but given what we've seen, he's saying, hey, you've gained some weight.
01:58:48.260
I think if it was an unwarranted opinion, then maybe it wouldn't exactly have been an appropriate thing to say.
01:58:53.660
But to me personally, reading that text message, it seemed like he was coming from a place of kindness
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after her kind of prefacing the conversation and asking him.
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I don't think it's right to be upset with him if you were asking for honesty.
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Because to me, he didn't seem like he was attacking her.
01:59:09.560
He wasn't saying that she wasn't beautiful anymore or anything like that.
01:59:13.060
He just seemed like he was responding to something that she had asked him.
01:59:19.700
And didn't he say that, like, you made fun of me when I gained, like, a couple of pounds or something?
01:59:25.160
This instance is like, didn't he say 30 pounds or something?
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Like, that's a very large amount compared to a couple of pounds.
01:59:33.000
And again, going back to the difference between men and female, we break fun at guys all the time.
01:59:37.140
We make fun of them for being shorter or maybe not being as masculine or this, that, or the other.
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But when it comes back to females, the direction, the reaction is totally different sometimes.
01:59:47.280
And the way we expect them to react is totally different sometimes.
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I mean, I don't think it's appropriate for her to call him chubs or fat if he's gained a couple pounds either.
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I mean, it just doesn't sound like a healthy relationship to me.
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I think that I just, it seems like he was coming from a place of love and he wasn't aggressive or completely.
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Coming at her with malice or anything like that.
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I don't think this is as controversial of a post as maybe you would have liked it to be.
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That's an indication of how women just expect sympathy automatically for nothing.
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Like, there was a bunch of other examples of this in recent media, actually.
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I think women tend to be criticized harder personally.
02:00:41.160
But I just don't think that he was criticizing her, in my opinion.
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I think he really just seemed, he seemed like a good partner to me in what he was saying.
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I'm also wondering if maybe the weight gain was contributed to, like, the relationship not being the best.
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Like, there's probably some deeper things to unpack there, I would say.
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I know people online were kind of making a lot of controversy about it.
02:01:09.740
But when I read it, and, I mean, I tend to be pretty, you know, attack mode with stuff like that.
02:01:17.240
But, no, I think he seemed like a good partner and somebody that was just addressing the situation that she had asked for.
02:01:23.300
I mean, it's pretty shocking, though, that she took a screenshot of that and thought, oh, this is going to be such a W.
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Like, well, I mean, there's definitely people that sided with her.
02:01:32.180
But, I mean, like, just if you take yourself out of the situation, you look at the actual text message.
02:01:43.260
But it sounds like she, there was some, we don't know what it was, but either she asked him to be upfront or honest with her about her or any changes in physical appearance.
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I think even if she didn't ask before, I think it's reasonable to bring something like that up because that might, like, affect certain things in the relationship.
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Like, for example, as shallow as it seems, like attraction, attraction plays a huge part within relationships.
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And if he feels no longer attracted to her, then that could be a thing.
02:02:12.300
And also, like, gaining a lot of weight might indicate problems with mental health.
02:02:15.860
So, that could have come from a place of that, too, being concerned about that, which is why he mentioned, like, the retreatment or whatever, like, in therapy or whatever.
02:02:25.240
Like, if I gained a few pounds, I'd definitely want my boyfriend to help me.
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And if my boyfriend gained a few pounds, I'd definitely say something because, like, you're supposed to move forward as a couple, not move back.
02:02:34.420
I would say anything to do with looks, though, is kind of a touchy subject.
02:02:37.540
So, you'd have to definitely approach it with, like, as much kindness and empathy as possible.
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Yeah, and I think that he approached it perfectly fine if that were to be the case.
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I think it's just something that's really sensitive.
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But I think that as long as you're coming from, like, a place of kindness, because I see so often in marriages and relationships where a woman has, like, a baby, for example, and then the male is, like, well, I'm not attracted to my wife anymore.
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And I think that that kind of comes back to it.
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Like, if you're not going to be attracted to the person that you're with no matter what weight they're at or whatever, then you, like, shouldn't be with them.
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I think that if you think that you're going to lose attraction if somebody gains a couple pounds, then you shouldn't be with that person.
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Because women, our bodies go through changes throughout our entire life, especially when we're having kids that, you know, men also want.
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I mean, I see instances all the time where these men are going online or on Reddit, and they're like, I'm not attracted to my wife anymore.
02:03:40.780
I, like, I don't love her anymore because her body isn't pre-baby body, and, I mean, like, that's, you're never going to have pre-baby body again.
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When a man chooses to have a baby with a woman, I feel like women always feel really bad after, and they're like, oh, like, they have, like, this expectation, like, oh, like, their husband isn't going to view them the same, you know, because your body changes so much when you have a child.
02:04:06.760
Like, when a man has, like, a kid, it's like, you know, like, they're ordering a baby on Amazon Prime.
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Like, a woman, like, she's carrying the baby for nine months.
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Like, your body is going through so many changes.
02:04:20.200
Like, I feel like a lot of men do go on Reddit and, or even go online or anywhere, and they're just like, oh, I don't like my wife anymore.
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Even though she just, like, gave birth to their child.
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Well, but, I mean, okay, so there's obviously a couple components.
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There's weight gain, and then, which you do have control over.
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Perhaps it might take you a bit of time, but there's also, like, stretch marks from pregnancy.
02:04:44.380
Okay, so stretch marks, that's pretty much out of your control if you get that from, you know, carrying a kid.
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I don't think that men should, you know, be hounding on their wives for stretch marks.
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But when it comes to weight gain, you know, she gained 35 pounds, apparently.
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In some cases, it's good weight gain, you know?
02:05:06.160
But when a man is like, oh, no, I would, like, get better when you were thinner.
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Like, in my case, like, I was very, very thin about two years ago.
02:05:15.280
And I gained 30 pounds, and some guy was like, you're, like, you're getting fat.
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And, again, it can be attributed to health issues.
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I mean, for example, like, I've always been a thicker person.
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But it's very, very, very difficult for me to lose weight no matter what I do.
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So am I supposed to be in a relationship with somebody that's going to judge me for that when it's something that's completely out of my control?
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Being insulin resistant and working out and eating healthy and not losing weight.
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It's very difficult for my body to lose weight.
02:06:07.000
But, like, insulin is extremely necessary in order to lose weight.
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And so that makes it difficult for you to lose weight.
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So even if you eat at a caloric deficit, you still can't lose weight?
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And so that's what I'm saying is, like, is that fair for me to, you know, at any point in time have my man be like, oh, well, you've gained weight.
02:06:38.600
I'm not attracted to you anymore when it's literally something that's out of my control.
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I think in that case it's appropriate to disclose that to your partner because if you disclose that to your partner right away,
02:06:56.620
But what if she was, what if your girlfriend or wife was one way and then gained 40 pounds and you're not attracted to her at her new weight?
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I think that, let's say, let's say it's, okay, with the baby, whatever the fuck her name is.
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Let's, if we stick to the story, she wasn't pregnant.
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She just gained 40 pounds, 35 pounds, whatever it was.
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So he wasn't, like, trying to end the relationship, but she was just butthurt about this text message, I guess.
02:07:42.860
So that's why I'm saying, like, I don't even think that it was malice or that he wasn't attracted to her.
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To me, it seemed like a conversation they were having, and she just, for some reason, felt vengeful and decided to screenshot that and post it online.
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Do you guys think it would be wrong for a guy to break up with his girlfriend, again, no child in the picture, break up with his girlfriend if she gained, like, 40 pounds?
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Like I said, attraction plays a huge role in relationships, and if you no longer feel attracted to that person, that's going to set your relationship back quite far.
02:08:10.760
Like, that's like if a guy were to go bald, say, like, male pattern and baldness, and if you no longer feel, well, if someone, like, I feel like, okay, if a guy were to go bald, like, let's just compare the two.
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Like, a guy goes bald if a woman doesn't feel attracted to it.
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If a guy were to go bald and a woman were to complain about it, it wouldn't really be as big of a thing because, like, oh, he went bald.
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But if a woman gains weight, for some reason, that's a sensitive, touchy topic.
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Well, relationships are for, like, the better and for the worse.
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Like, if my partner's struggling with, like, things that affect their, like, if he was, had a receding hairline or something, like, I still care about him on the inside.
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Like, my attractiveness to him may differ, but, like, these are all things that can be fixed over time.
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Like, if he's bald, he can get a hair transplant.
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If he doesn't want to get a hair transplant, then that's on him.
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But, like, I'm not going to break up with him because he's balding.
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Like, I don't, I'm not dating him for his hair.
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Like, if a guy is going to break up with me for gaining 40 pounds for, like, whatever reason, like, at least be willing to have a conversation with your partner about your, like, communication.
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I feel like a lot of people just give up way too easily in relationships nowadays.
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40 pounds would also usually denote some type of physical or mental health, like, thing that's, like, really occurring.
02:09:31.960
So, typically, the conversation would happen before you got to that typically.
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I feel like I wouldn't be, like, oh, my God, like, my boyfriend gained, like, 40 pounds.
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Yes, I just said I love it when my men are thicker.
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Well, I think it's, I don't know if it's a apt.
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Like, I really like this one guy when he, can I, can I say this real quick?
02:09:59.320
But I really like this one guy, and he was a little bit, like, chubbier.
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And then all of a sudden, he started losing all this weight and, like, started going to
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the gym and, like, started getting, like, a really nice body.
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Like, I was, like, oh, like, I miss my chubby man.
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Yeah, I think it's perfectly within your right to, like, lose attraction to someone.
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If you were attracted to him for being chubbier in the first place and he lost weight, that's
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But at the same time, like, if someone started out as thin and got fat, which, like, and they
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Like, say, male pattern baldness, you can't control that.
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But if they were to get fat, I think it's perfectly within the man's right to be, like,
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I mean, sure, he should bring it up first or stop it before it's too late, stop it, whatever.
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But I think it's perfectly within anyone's right to, like, express that they don't feel
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Yeah, also, I mean, I don't know if the, like, a guy losing his hair is an apt comparison
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It's not a comparison, but I just meant, like, medically.
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Oh, yeah, I just meant, like, medically gaining weight.
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Like, if there's, like, a medical reason going on, I'd say that it's, like, sort of on
02:11:14.700
the same kind of spectrum as the hair loss thing, like male pattern baldness.
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But when it's something that you do have control over, like, liberty over, like, if you choose
02:11:24.520
not to lose the weight that you've gained and if you went to the gym and you just easily
02:11:28.060
lose it like that, I'd say that it's, like, perfectly, like, reasonable to be, like, hey,
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I don't think this is going to work out because that also reflects the person's lifestyle.
02:11:40.100
And if this person has a lifestyle that might set the other partner back, you know, you
02:11:44.820
And, like, I feel like not wanting to go to the gym, not wanting to improve, that reflects
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on the person as, like, oh, they're lazy, they just don't want to change, they just
02:11:56.820
No, yeah, I see where you're getting at, but I think you can, you know, if, like, your
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couple, your partner is getting some weight, you don't really find them attractive, I
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think there's a nice way to say it, like, oh, like, gym date, you know?
02:12:12.760
Honestly, if any guy was going to do it that way, then, honey, that's fine.
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Also, if she really loved him, I feel like she wouldn't really out him like that, you
02:12:27.540
I feel like if I love somebody, I'm going to protect them no matter what.
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Like, I don't want anyone, I don't want anyone...
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Didn't you just say earlier on in the show something about getting revenge on an ex?
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I said, yeah, like, you know, like, sometimes you do want to get revenge, but, like, to
02:12:42.300
put it out there in public and be, like, I wouldn't come out here and be, like, fuck my
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ex, like, he was, you know, like, say all these, like, terrible things about them because,
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When I love somebody, I feel like I will always love them a little bit, you know?
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And I also have massive respect for these people that have once been a part of my life.
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Like, they came into my life for a reason, you know?
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And I wouldn't go out of my way to, like, post something, especially if I have, like,
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such a huge fan base and anyone and everyone can go and, like, attack them for no reason
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just because, you know, you needed that little hit of, like, feeling, like, validation.
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I'm so sorry, Bebe, but I feel like it was a little immature.
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Especially because she's such a huge celebrity and, like, all her fans are probably going to
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go attack that poor dude and he wasn't even, you know, he didn't do that, he didn't do
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Yeah, by the way, her boyfriend is not, like, super well...
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Leon, if you ladies met a potential partner that was of the wealth and status of Jonah
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Hill, but with the looks of what you find a person, find a personally, a 10, 10, and they
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But this is directed at everybody here, not just the girls who do OnlyFans, so that was
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He's not, like, a leading man, but he's in major...
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No, I'd say he pioneered most of comedy as it is, so, like, he pioneered it.
02:14:43.100
I feel like Jonah Hill is, like, a really huge name.
02:14:49.260
And just really quick, going back to the whole the surfer chick situation, I think because
02:14:54.400
he's a celebrity and because he's of his status, he's probably a little bit more concerned
02:14:59.580
with what his partner is, like, putting out there on the internet because he has a very
02:15:08.460
But for this super chat, Leon here, looks of what you find, a 10 out of 10.
02:15:14.240
Okay, so the question is, would you quit your job for a guy who has...
02:15:19.220
Who's an A-list celebrity or has that level status, is a millionaire many times over, and
02:15:31.340
Well, I think you kind of need to consider, like, what if you hate their personality?
02:15:35.520
Yeah, if we're commercially compatible as well, then yeah, for sure.
02:15:38.600
Just because they're rich and famous and hot doesn't...
02:15:44.300
Most likely, but, like, there's still a chance it wouldn't be the right...
02:15:47.080
If it's commercially compatible, then absolutely.
02:15:56.660
If you're upset with men setting boundaries, that is mad childish, yo.
02:16:00.280
A boundary is based on a level of comfortability with certain things.
02:16:06.180
You can't accept boundaries, then don't be mad when men don't treat you like a lady and
02:16:15.020
We don't give those type of men our time of day, so...
02:16:26.220
I just don't agree with you saying that if you can't accept somebody's boundaries, because
02:16:32.040
So, if I'm Sarah, his surfer girlfriend, and I am having the conversation, and I go, well,
02:16:38.120
I'm going to keep my career and continue posting what I want, so I guess we're just not going
02:16:41.460
to be in a relationship, that doesn't mean that she is devoid of humanity.
02:16:46.120
Well, I'd say that certain behaviors might lead to men mistreating you, like the way that
02:16:50.620
you portray yourself, for example, not to blame anyone, but if you have a...
02:16:56.200
A history of promiscuity, it might lead men to be more...
02:17:01.920
I don't think it's okay, but I think that it's, like...
02:17:07.520
I think it's within their reason to maybe react that way to you, like if you present yourself
02:17:15.020
I mean, that is a broad generalization with men and women, like women can make assumptions
02:17:18.840
of men and how they put themselves out there as well, so I mean, obviously, people are
02:17:23.120
going to judge you based off of what you post and how you put yourself out there.
02:17:25.680
Yeah, but that, like, again, like your actions and what you do, what you wear, like sadly
02:17:30.740
it does play a big part on how people might treat you.
02:17:34.020
Like if I showed up here just in a bra or something, people would be like, oh, she's
02:17:38.420
And that's perfectly within their right to assume that or think that.
02:17:41.900
You said you're not justifying it, but that is justifying it, saying that it's within
02:17:45.200
It's not necessarily, like, justifying it, but it's sort of like I could see where they're
02:17:50.940
Like, if I saw this, like, fuckboy, like some guy getting drunk at a party, like a
02:17:55.120
frat guy, I might be like, oh, no, I don't really want to have relations with him, you
02:17:59.280
And I'm perfectly justified within my right, you know?
02:18:01.140
People make judgments based on your character, based on what you're wearing, based on everything.
02:18:06.520
I think that judgments, while they may not be, like, substantiated, while they may not,
02:18:11.120
like, be true of you, I think that everyone has judgments.
02:18:18.020
I do make a lot of judgments, and I try really hard not to, because I personally don't want
02:18:34.120
Brian, currently living in Japan, and love my current girlfriend over here, and makes it
02:18:38.280
easy to see the red flags, the majority of women in the U.S.
02:18:51.980
So you're like, bye, I'm going to go find somebody else that doesn't know anything about
02:18:54.940
me, and I'm just going to flaunt that I am from a Western state and say that, oh, I'm
02:18:59.080
going to provide for this girl who probably doesn't have an education or is looking for
02:19:06.760
I think that maybe, this is me making an assumption, but that Passport Bros just have
02:19:11.980
a fetish for exotic foreign women that have traditional values, but that's okay.
02:19:17.580
Is it a fetish to one woman with traditional values?
02:19:20.380
I mean, if they're outsourcing it specifically from anywhere else to have a foreign woman,
02:19:25.920
But if it's devoid in the States, then wouldn't they go elsewhere?
02:19:34.580
You're saying so, like, of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
02:19:44.900
I'm sure that if he wanted to, he could find one.
02:19:48.460
Like, I make this huge treacherous journey to, like, go find a girl.
02:19:58.660
No, because he's literally, like, pioneering, like, when you think of it.
02:20:02.300
Is he on the open seas in, like, the fucking Mayflower?
02:20:06.260
I'm sure it's not easy talking to foreign women.
02:20:10.540
No, I'm sure it's not that easy, like, going, you know, like, going out and, like, talking
02:20:17.780
I mean, I just think it's really bizarre to say that it's not available in the United States.
02:20:23.580
There's 150,000 women that exist in the United States, and if you go to especially more conservative
02:20:29.660
areas of the country, I am 1,000% sure that it wouldn't be a 1 in 10 situation if 10 women
02:20:35.420
It would probably be way more trad wife in Texas and in Louisiana, Mississippi, et cetera,
02:20:47.140
Also, it's probably 1 in 10 because I'm sure many traditional women are outsourcing to go
02:20:51.940
on a controversial podcast to, like, put themselves out there in the public eye, so of course it's
02:20:59.460
Oh, we got, we got exhibit A over here, and she's waiting until marriage.
02:21:04.240
She's been celibate for three years and four months.
02:21:17.660
Three, three years, four months, 22 days, 12 hours.
02:21:24.180
Okay, that's exactly what it is, rock and roll.
02:21:26.240
So, yeah, he's currently in Japan, Mr. Fire and Ice.
02:21:32.460
What is, like, maybe I've even asked you this before.
02:21:39.180
Yeah, like, perfect, maybe not even your dream girl, but, like, what are, what is the criteria
02:21:48.680
So, my dream girl, I'm going to give kind of an obnoxious answer because I feel like,
02:21:53.760
you know, dream, it's like, okay, she's a trillionaire, virgin, like, 10 out of 10 looks,
02:22:08.300
But that's, like, the, uh, that's my obnoxious answer to that question.
02:22:11.720
I feel like women are much more realistic with their dream.
02:22:13.860
No, well, I'm being, I'm being a little facetious there.
02:22:16.240
Literally, like, some girls would just be like, oh, like, he's tall.
02:22:20.820
And then we're like, oh, my God, he has to be tall.
02:22:26.520
So, your question is, oh, hold on, we'll let this come in and then I'll answer.
02:22:51.700
I was gonna say that we'll be like, oh, like, we want a tall guy, and that's literally it.
02:22:58.800
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
02:23:18.940
Like, what I find attractive will not be attractive to, like, any of these girls.
02:23:23.500
I'm not gonna call cap on that because I remember last time you said there was a certain rapper who you love.
02:23:40.700
I'm not gonna say it because I don't know if I can say it.
02:23:52.140
Yo, anybody in the chat, remember, does anybody remember who the rapper?
02:23:58.080
Okay, but so, wait, he saw the video and DM'd you?
02:24:05.660
What happened was that I was going to one of his concerts.
02:24:08.460
I've been to, like, so many of his concerts, but I was going to one of his concerts, and
02:24:11.620
he said that he was, he said the city he was gonna be in and was, like, posted a picture,
02:24:16.620
and I, all I commented was, see you tonight, baby, and then he DM'd me, he FaceTimed me,
02:24:22.260
and then he invited me to hang out with him after the show.
02:24:27.360
Because when he FaceTimed me, he's like, you look really young, and then he, I didn't hear
02:24:32.220
a single word from him after that until after the show.
02:24:35.220
But by the time the show had ended, it was, like, far away from where I live, and I was,
02:24:39.220
like, already heading back home, and I was, like, drenched in sweat, like, my mascara was
02:24:42.100
running, I did not look cute, so I, like, I didn't do anything with him, but his lyrics
02:24:50.120
His lyrics scare me, so I was, like, I'm gonna get-
02:24:57.600
He's, like, you look too young, and then I, that was it.
02:25:17.740
He thought you were, like, under 18 or something.
02:25:24.740
I mean, I, I, when I was, like, a kid, I used to be obsessed, like, I could understand the
02:25:30.960
I used to be obsessed with Texas Congressman Dan Crenshaw.
02:25:34.420
I don't know if you look like a guy with the iPad.
02:25:41.980
So, I, I totally get the, like, stalker thing, but, I don't know.
02:25:45.540
And to say the song lyrics, um, this ain't a Millie Rock, this ain't money dance, and
02:26:11.300
And then I said that I like men that are usually seen as unattractive.
02:26:16.100
If I heard that as a guy, and someone asked me, like, wait, wait, did you tell him that?
02:26:24.720
I'm just saying that, usually, my type tends to be guys that people don't really find attractive.
02:26:30.480
And honestly, good for me, because then nobody wants him.
02:26:35.540
But, okay, you got into that because I was saying, well, women, I think women demand a lot more
02:26:45.020
Who should pay on the first date, men or women?
02:26:47.480
And I know we do have to talk about that one, but.
02:26:55.440
I choose who do I want to go out on a date with.
02:26:57.820
And if he's asking me and inviting me out on a date, then he's got to pay.
02:27:07.260
Well, I mean, like, whoever, it's just like, okay, whoever asks should pay, but I never ask.
02:27:18.060
Okay, so to answer your question, you want to know what I'm looking for?
02:27:25.740
Do you, like, read, like, when you find a girl that you like, like, do you, like, check
02:27:28.620
all this stuff off and you're, like, okay, meets this, meets that?
02:27:32.520
Well, okay, some of these are a bit more, like, flippant, but let's see.
02:27:37.260
So is it dream girl or is it just what I'm looking for?
02:27:48.480
I have, wait, do I, like, you're talking about oral sex?
02:27:53.060
I haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
02:27:57.600
There is, there is something going on that men do not like to go down on girls anymore.
02:28:09.900
Like, no, really, I, one time I was, like, gonna, I was, like, gonna hook up with this
02:28:14.940
guy and I, like, I was, like, okay, like, you know, and then he's, like, oh, no, I don't
02:28:19.840
And then he's, like, I'm, he's, like, I'm only gonna do that for my wife when I love her.
02:28:32.480
Would you, if you had a, well, I know you don't want to get married, but if you, like,
02:28:44.960
Do you think most women don't finish off of penetration?
02:28:50.560
That's why you gotta bring some toys into the picture, you know what I'm saying?
02:28:53.680
The toys are, the toys are the one that's doing the pleasuring, not you.
02:29:01.660
And whoever's saying that they, that's, that's doing it for them is lying.
02:29:05.580
They're just saying that to make you feel better, Brian.
02:29:14.640
Like, what, what, how do you know about my, my escapades and rendezvous?
02:29:27.220
I'm very adamant about communicating if I have or haven't finished with my partner.
02:29:31.280
Because I like, I like to, you know, reciprocate pleasure.
02:29:38.900
He's like, oh, I want to be able to do that for you.
02:29:40.420
Yeah, that's a pretty bad thing to, like, fake an orgasm.
02:29:43.240
That's, you're shooting yourself in the foot if you're doing that as a chick.
02:29:47.860
Now I would try to teach them, coach them, you know?
02:29:52.980
Also, like, there's, there's, there's this huge shame about, like, if a guy can't get
02:30:04.520
Some, some women, some women are, like, can come, like, it's, some women just come, like,
02:30:13.380
But then there's other women who, they can't even get themselves off alone.
02:30:20.220
So the orgasm response is much more varied in women.
02:30:23.440
And it's also, for example, I would say that most guys, obviously, you know, there's different
02:30:31.180
anatomical features, but, like, if a girl was just honestly, like, put her in doggy
02:30:36.540
position, doggy style, or she could just be a, what's it, what's the term, like, a dead
02:30:49.020
She's just, let's say a girl's a pillow princess.
02:30:50.980
You put 99% of men in that scenario, they can make themselves come.
02:30:55.420
But if a guy's just laying there, do you think most women could make themselves come if he's
02:31:03.320
So the orgasm response is very different between men and women.
02:31:12.160
It's a little off topic, but not really off topic.
02:31:18.320
Like, do you think the girl is ugly after and you're like, oh, what am I doing?
02:31:24.220
I don't, I have had that experience, but it's more so, like, it's more so I just, like,
02:31:31.340
I have no more interest in sex, like, after, after climax.
02:31:53.000
Like, I'm, I'm in a constant state of, like, if I was in a constant state of clarity, maybe.
02:31:58.940
So you nut, you nut, and you're like, all right, I'm done.
02:32:02.520
That's actually, with my ex-boyfriend, like, that would happen multiple times where I'd
02:32:12.220
Maybe I just wasn't, like, maybe I wasn't, like, as emotionally connected with him as
02:32:17.860
But that's actually happened a few amount of times where I've just been, like.
02:32:20.640
I think if it's happened a few amount of times, like, you should just step back and
02:32:25.540
Like, maybe you're just, like, entering unfulfilling relationships, or if they're just hookups,
02:32:31.580
But even when I was in a happy relationship, I was, like, that would still happen.
02:32:36.700
And then I was, like, maybe I don't really like him as much as I do.
02:32:40.240
But I think you're destroying your, like, perception of, like, intimacy and relationships.
02:32:44.320
If you do do hookups, I don't know your personal story.
02:32:47.940
I only really hook up with, like, if I really, really like the guy.
02:32:50.780
I think in general, hookups, not that I've done it with anyone, but I think in general,
02:32:59.780
But, like, I think that it does, like, destroy intimacy, and I think just, like, having a
02:33:09.540
Okay, so let me touch on a couple things here, then we'll get back to the super chats.
02:33:14.460
And I will open this up to the rest of the panel.
02:33:19.300
And you were kind of like, what the fuck, Brian?
02:33:36.240
What if the girl was like, oh, okay, I'm not going down on you if you're not going down
02:33:39.820
I mean, I suppose that's if, you know, you want to make it an equality argument.
02:33:44.160
I suppose, you know, I suppose it's reasonable, although I think that would be more, that's
02:33:51.180
more like, if her standard before I revealed this was, she doesn't like giving head, that's
02:33:58.320
But then it just, to me, it seems almost vindictive.
02:34:07.600
I would just say it's like reciprocating pleasure.
02:34:09.800
If a man isn't willing to do that certain thing for me, then I'm maybe not as willing
02:34:18.460
And I understand the argument about reciprocity, but I don't necessarily think just because
02:34:23.700
your partner isn't comfortable with doing something doesn't mean that you necessarily
02:34:28.700
have to be like, well, you won't do it, so I won't do it.
02:34:31.920
Maybe girls aren't used to doing it when it is reciprocated.
02:34:34.740
So, for example, if they're not getting that pleasure in return, they may not actually
02:34:37.820
enjoy it, but if they're getting equal amount of pleasure back from the man going down,
02:34:41.900
then they're going to be like, okay, it's justifiable to do that.
02:34:44.900
So, that new information may change the situation.
02:35:23.720
So, first off, certainly you shouldn't do it in like a one-night stand or like a Friends
02:35:30.580
with Benefits where there's no exclusivity that's been established.
02:35:38.500
And I don't do it even within the confines of a relationship.
02:35:41.440
However, the idea of like going down on a girl and she just like fucked a dude yesterday,
02:35:47.240
to me, I would be very uncomfortable with that.
02:36:03.180
But you said that could be applied to a relationship, too.
02:36:06.460
So, if she's in a relationship, she's not getting dicked down the day prior.
02:36:10.200
Well, you know, some people move in interesting ways in relationships.
02:36:12.600
Well, we pray in her that she would not be, right?
02:36:27.740
I don't like to kiss after a girl's giving me head.
02:36:36.480
I mean, yeah, because that's low-key kind of gay.
02:45:24.760
I want to make sure that you're not going to embarrass me.
02:45:35.760
We can talk like we can have decent conversation.
02:45:59.240
I will not know how to proceed in life without that.
02:46:41.920
but I have a slight preference for like short women.
02:46:57.820
like a lot of women I've been like dating older and recent,
02:47:53.280
I have a really good relationship with my father.
02:47:56.260
I guess like apparently like an older man has something to do with that.
02:48:03.040
most of my boyfriends like have been like younger than me,
02:48:10.180
I've dated older and younger and I have a great relationship with my dad.
02:48:20.520
Her parents made her do at least three years of violin or cello.
02:48:44.320
that pretty much limits me to mostly Asian women.
02:49:59.180
What if she got like a little nose job or something?
02:50:40.600
even now she's got big fucking fake double D's,
02:50:45.100
I would prefer a girl who's got small breasts that are natural over fake.
02:51:06.140
So is like Botox and filler a deal breaker for you?
02:51:22.340
my only concern is it's a little bit of a red flag.
02:51:41.840
Body dysmorphia is when you like look in the mirror and don't register what you actually look like.
02:51:49.260
dysphoria can apply to things outside of transgenderism.
02:52:01.120
Dysmorphia is like what anorexic people would feel,
02:52:10.980
But I don't think that everybody that gets lip filler or plastic surgery has and definitely
02:52:17.160
I think that that's like an extreme end of the spectrum.
02:52:22.620
but aren't you so dissatisfied with how your body is presenting itself that you've opted
02:52:27.080
to undergo a dangerous and otherwise unnecessary and not medically indicated surgery to enhance
02:52:35.820
and it could reflect the mental state of the person.
02:52:42.080
they might have a bit of problems or something.
02:52:45.520
That doesn't mean everybody that gets plastic surgery qualifies and is under that category.
02:52:55.520
it doesn't necessarily mean that you have body dysmorphia,
02:53:04.940
Like all it does is paralyze certain muscles in your face so that you don't get wrinkles.
02:53:14.600
So it feels like girls get fillers in their cheeks where their cheeks are literally like,
02:53:23.200
do you not see how you look in the mirror girl?
02:53:25.160
Like literally they're like big dappy duck lips and shit.
02:53:38.700
And so I would see both ends of the spectrum of people that are coming in and just doing like
02:53:42.240
maintain maintenance Botox and maybe a little lip filler.
02:53:55.180
and there's people that definitely like are super insecure with themselves and come in and get the big cheeks and get the big lips.
02:54:02.580
I would say they're more on like a dysmorphic end of things where they're not,
02:54:12.340
I don't think that that's across the board with people that get cosmetic work done.
02:54:23.760
there's this disease or there's something you can track called botulism.
02:54:30.620
And they found a way to utilize that virus for medical reasons.
02:54:40.160
It's really interesting because once it's in your body,
02:54:42.140
you do get paralyzed within seven hours and it kills you.
02:54:46.600
I just wanted to mention it because it's like my favorite disease.
02:55:05.140
there are actual medical things that Botox actually helps.
02:55:19.780
I just think that like plastic surgery is kind of predatory and that like
02:55:26.680
there's this culture in the media that is like,
02:55:31.560
And you had it with Kim Kardashian where it's like this really ridiculous.
02:56:02.660
It's either one feminist position is women should not feel compelled to undergo these dangerous and unnecessary surgeries to adhere to this beauty.
02:56:17.700
Like you shouldn't be shamed for wearing makeup or getting plastic surgery.
02:56:23.760
So there's actually two divergent feminist positions on it.
02:56:33.180
we put these burdensome beauty standards on women that they feel compelled to go into the knife.
02:56:46.540
most people get plastic surgery without any sort of consequence,
02:56:53.600
I think you have to get them redone every 10 years for,
02:57:07.700
but I've heard in the past that there was leaking.
02:57:14.900
So the implants are literally prepped with like arsenic and like lead.
02:57:21.340
there is a lot of pressure for like women to look a certain way.
02:57:23.820
And I definitely have like an A cup or a B cup,
02:57:40.540
A friend of mine literally had to get hers taken out because they
02:57:43.260
consistently gave her like a sharp stabbing pain,
02:57:45.680
like in the middle of her chest and then other health issues that came up.
02:57:52.420
there were many people that confirmed the exact same thing.
02:57:55.500
And so women need to go into that being aware of the ramifications.
02:57:59.440
And oftentimes they're not because it's so normalized that like,
02:58:06.380
So it's a symptom of this microwave mentality that we have as a
02:58:43.260
The lips are getting chopped off and it's a tragedy.
02:58:48.000
any ladies watching who are considering a labiaplasty,
02:59:09.340
the guy who's really going to care about you and you're going to really care about him,
02:59:13.460
do you think it's going to be like the deal breaker that like,
02:59:49.760
I'm not sure if women are necessarily getting plastic surgery for men.
02:59:58.680
I think that both men and women play a part in perpetuating the plastic surgery industry.
03:00:06.960
like just having those people as like role models.
03:00:10.040
I wouldn't say Kim K specifically as role model,
03:00:13.540
A lot of little girls might look up to her because she has like a blossoming,
03:00:25.840
Having people like that just really does terrible shit to the industry as a whole.
03:00:36.360
Like a ton of like female celebrities started getting that.
03:00:40.960
like you'll find that they're putting out things that you didn't even know you should have been insecure about.
03:01:02.540
And that's what the doctors are saying that when they're going to get older,
03:01:07.200
I think that women do play a part in contributing to the harmful industry.
03:01:15.600
It's an unrealistic beauty standard from men and from women,
03:01:21.140
Like women that want to reduce their breasts or whatever.
03:01:32.480
But you get the people that are saying the same thing.
03:01:42.600
I believe like a G like myself and she went and had them reduced and she's a Twitch streamer
03:02:00.280
whether it's a reduction or you're getting implants or whatever,
03:02:18.800
But I think this is similar because like in one piece,
03:02:38.540
are deal breakers for me would be BBL and lipo.
03:02:47.300
That seems like that would be your number one deal breakup.
03:03:01.820
what if they looked real and you just didn't know?
03:03:07.480
How many people do you think have fake boobs at this table?
03:03:11.300
are you really inviting me to just stare at your tits right now?
03:03:41.160
I would prefer a girl with like a little teeny belly,
03:03:43.580
like a little pudge versus the flat lipo belly,
03:03:56.480
I feel like girls with fake tits don't really go for me.
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I'm just not the type of guy that those types of girls go for.
03:04:47.880
Women who are homemakers are not performing unpaid labor.
03:04:54.120
The men and women are partners in the house and the woman is paid for her work through
03:05:35.500
Big fan of your country and its contributions to the world like the EPL and Brexit.
03:06:23.020
They're just getting more and more views on that video.
03:06:29.740
Like I've jacked off to my wife getting fucked by a,
03:06:40.820
I feel like they were high one night and were like,
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what do you think would happen if you did this?
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And I think he also knows that it's such a big topic right now.
03:07:12.820
And I think he knows that it's going to get even more and more and more
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views and they're just going to get even more money.
03:08:04.260
The problem is women who assume the worst in men thinking is reality,
03:08:16.840
but instead women choose trash men who may leave to have kids with.
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that's your fault for making a bad decision and choosing the wrong guy.
03:08:37.420
Like they're falling in love with a completely different person.
03:08:40.660
it's over time that they choose that that person chooses to change,
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And a lot of time they put on a facade in order to get the woman that they want.
03:08:50.840
And then once the woman is deep enough into the relationship and he feels like she won't leave,
03:08:54.980
they start unveiling these things little by little.
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And then it makes it very complicated to leave.
03:09:04.440
Why do you act like makeup changes your whole facial structure?
03:09:13.020
talented artists that's like transforming their face into something else.
03:09:17.140
A regular girl isn't doing that on the day to day.
03:09:29.560
years into the transition still looks pretty like feminine,
03:09:48.200
Like if I met her with makeup and then randomly ran into that person at Starbucks,
03:09:51.580
I would not immediately think that that is the same person.
03:09:58.120
I think makeup is an entirely different thing from a personality.
03:10:04.040
I'd say that some people might feel deceived by it.
03:10:06.060
Similar to like how you might feel if a man shapes his beard and it's like,
03:10:17.980
I think of a more fair comparison as a guy who's wearing a hat.
03:10:32.020
there is girls who can contour so good that they could like contour out like a double chin.
03:10:50.360
But can we talk about all the girls here that have their hair dyed?
03:11:05.960
It's just simply stating that you can recognize that.
03:11:08.600
you can completely change your facial structure.
03:11:15.560
Jordan Peterson literally stated that makeup should be banned in the workplace.
03:11:19.320
Because did you know that when you put on makeup,
03:11:21.600
it actually mimics the way you look when you're aroused.
03:11:25.720
The blood capillaries in your lips and cheeks go off,
03:11:29.900
which causes your cheeks to blush and your lips to blush.
03:11:43.500
which replicates the way you look when your pupils are dilated.
03:11:47.240
I'm not going to listen to anything Jordan Peterson says as fact.
03:11:51.920
but also there are many different types of makeup looks that I would not say
03:12:25.820
obviously like ancient Egyptian makeup and shit,
03:12:30.520
But we're talking about modern times and the correlation.
03:12:36.760
But you're stating that makeup is basically in order to mimic your,
03:12:40.880
I'm saying it's coincidentally does not necessarily that,
03:12:45.300
but a comparison can be drawn in a very clear comparison.
03:12:59.480
Like they used it to paint like clocks and stuff,
03:13:01.340
but they also used it because it would dilate eyes.
03:13:08.220
they went as far as they use uranium and it ended up getting the girls really
03:13:14.960
I love putting on my music and looking at myself in the mirror and like
03:13:28.400
would you like to have a high maintenance girl?
03:13:37.000
Because I would consider myself high maintenance because I take real,
03:13:46.480
So I wouldn't classify like somebody who takes care of themselves as also
03:13:52.660
Cause you can take care of yourself without like getting nails.
03:13:59.300
But I think a lot of men think that they like that.
03:14:04.520
but I think a lot of men say that they like that,
03:14:06.980
but then they'll look at a picture of Kim Kardashian and be like,
03:14:16.100
A lot of comprehension skills when it comes to that.
03:14:26.280
you could look at a girl and you could be like,
03:14:33.520
I still prefer her without makeup because that's how she actually looks.
03:14:44.360
And I've seen a lot of like alternative looks that I absolutely adore.
03:14:54.280
If a man like wants a girl who wears eyelashes,
03:14:58.060
You might mean like something that hardly looks like you're wearing eyelashes.
03:15:01.720
we're not like wearing full face every single day.
03:15:24.000
how they talk over and yell to force their point.
03:15:28.440
It's disappointing that the Mexican queen has a boyfriend.
03:15:47.980
you have said that the genie of feminism is not going back in the ball,
03:15:55.260
The West is in for a backslide of epic proportions back to truly oppressive patriarchy.
03:16:25.000
So the slide back in Iran was due to a political coup in Iran.
03:16:32.980
And it was an American and British coup in Iran.
03:16:40.240
I think he's more so talking about like the rollback of Roe versus Wade and things like that in America.
03:16:51.300
he's saying that cause Iran in 1970 was very progressive and it was like very feminist.
03:16:58.960
which would be America and like Europe is in for a backslide of epic proportions to truly oppressive patriarchy,
03:17:04.640
which would kind of fall under like Roe being rolled back and things like that.
03:17:14.000
Wade getting rolled back is due to patriarchy because I think there's actually more women who are pro-life than there are men who are pro-life.
03:17:19.700
Roe versus Wade wasn't overturned with the intention of,
03:17:50.580
we have the smartest people are the ones who are quietly listening and absorbing everything that is being said around them.
03:17:56.340
The chatterboxes are too busy listening to themselves to really understand what they're even talking about.
03:18:04.440
I feel like I've been actually listening a lot.
03:18:14.380
This is the message I meant to send for the girl to hate on the man for having a foreign wife.
03:18:26.600
We did kind of briefly touch on the passport bro things,
03:18:35.900
or think it's kind of like funny that dudes are going overseas?
03:18:40.680
and I know I just asked a question without letting you guys respond.
03:18:46.640
you have a lot of guys going overseas to find women,
03:18:50.380
but you don't really hear about guys coming to the U S to find women.
03:19:04.560
But that like for room actual genuine romantic,
03:19:09.300
I don't necessarily think that passport rows are finding genuine romantic connections either.
03:19:14.160
The women want papers or some sort of escape from their life.
03:19:21.100
the man just wants to provide and have a trad wife that he can bring to the United States.
03:19:32.660
I'm assuming while you were on base in another country,
03:19:35.240
that's like completely different than being a passport bro.
03:19:44.280
I think what's happening is a lot of men are not finding success with dating in the West,
03:19:52.780
And so they're going to where they are appreciated,
03:20:03.040
But I think in a lot of cases that they're expecting something that they're never going to get.
03:20:09.340
two weeks ago of a guy that was a passport bro,
03:20:41.220
Is Morocco the premier destination for passport bro?
03:20:46.020
it's one of them because it's where traditional women are.
03:21:10.860
It's the same traditional standards and values.
03:21:15.160
thinking they're going to find the American set of values of a woman
03:21:20.620
and also have a traditional wife when that's not going to happen.
03:21:27.100
And that is not the only case of that happening.
03:21:31.320
Who's also going to do all of the household chores and take care of the
03:21:34.740
family and do everything else and wait on him hand and foot while he
03:21:37.840
doesn't want to pay for everything and provide.
03:21:41.540
I can't speak for all the men that are passport bros,
03:21:44.920
it's maybe a bit of a straw man to say that these guys who are passport bros are
03:21:56.760
I'm saying this off of something that actually like was already perpetuated
03:22:02.000
obviously TV show where producers are intentionally.
03:22:10.340
I mean like the real relationships and marriages.
03:22:13.080
reality shows are like notorious for being scripted.
03:22:17.780
No one is moving to another country for a reality show that they're not
03:22:29.780
you would have a lot of content from that for sure.
03:22:32.580
But I'm not saying that it's every single passport bro.
03:22:36.580
looking for that and thinks that that's going to happen.
03:22:43.940
I'd say that some moments are scripted and other moments aren't like the
03:22:54.280
but I wouldn't really like base an entire argument on that show
03:22:59.760
especially like there's been so many channels exposing it as fake.
03:23:07.800
Because I feel like we kind of have to go off what we see on,
03:23:12.620
in the media to like make assumptions and not make us.
03:23:18.180
We have a chat from Patty Lebow man from Australia.
03:23:23.820
Did you taste another man spoof in the girl you're seeing?
03:23:49.380
Men do not talk about sex in great detail in the same way girls do.
03:24:58.280
It's different guys being on the outside and girls being on the inside.
03:25:33.760
I'm just asking if they've never been with a man.
03:26:04.180
And I'm sure many women wish their men felt confident enough to bring that in the bedroom.
03:26:08.600
So I think that we need to give a round of applause for that.
03:26:11.240
I've heard that from women that some guys don't want to use some toys.
03:26:29.860
Passport bros don't just move overseas for a more traditional relationship.
03:26:49.920
I heard the cost of living in Tokyo is like really.
03:27:08.220
I lived off of 7-Eleven foods and I ate good in Japan.
03:27:24.580
I've heard a lot of people that live long and are healthy.
03:27:35.820
I was talking about the 7-Eleven food in Hawaii.
03:27:37.800
They have a lot more legalities for the GMers and stuff versus the rest of the United States.
03:27:55.260
I may be used to like give them money and pay them to fight each other,
03:28:14.500
you can get like a $17 like bowl of ramen at like somewhere here.
03:28:29.020
Japan's cost of living is actually extremely high outside of the food.
03:28:38.860
I was going to ask you that when you are using these toys on girls,
03:28:49.200
I was going to say that you're going to get a girl in affection.
03:28:54.100
If I found out a man was using the same exact toy that he used on another girl,
03:29:07.520
They like want to use a toy that's never been used before.
03:29:11.360
But when a guy has sex with another girl and then he like takes a shower or whatever,
03:29:45.200
The dude's peen is going to fuck up the chick's.
03:30:18.100
like you're going to give some girl an infection.
03:30:26.820
Even if you clean your pee pee after you have sex with,
03:30:30.180
this is why girls know when they're getting cheated on.
03:30:37.280
But this is why girls know that their bodies literally tell us,
03:30:41.660
our bodies will literally tell us when a man is cheating on us because our pH balance will get messed up.
03:30:50.400
you're saying if your pH balance gets fucked up and you're dating a guy,
03:30:58.260
don't girls spontaneously have their pH change even when they're not in a relationship and having sex with men?
03:31:03.800
So how can you say that would be evidence of a guy cheating on you?
03:31:07.200
it could be one of the men that she's sleeping with that threw off her pH.
03:31:14.180
if you're in a relationship and you're having consistent sex with this guy and nothing has ever happened before.
03:31:20.340
yeast infection or something smells a little weird down there.
03:31:42.520
Like if you were to like add a certain amount of ammonia,
03:31:55.540
can we not talk about the pH of pussies right now?
03:32:19.460
I think it kind of just goes back to your whole,
03:32:22.060
if she fucked a guy last night and then I like,
03:32:28.340
You're going to get a lot of messages from girls.
03:32:59.820
let's say a guy was and you weren't using a condom.
03:33:30.280
you could like balance back the pH with a level of acidity.
03:34:02.560
if a toy is on another woman's body and then you're,
03:34:05.540
cause like you're saying like you wash your dick,
03:34:08.680
like it still was on somebody else's or in somebody like another female's body.
03:34:18.560
if you're reusing the same toy from women to women,
03:34:21.960
would you use the same fleshlight as another guy?
03:34:26.380
Would you use the same fleshlight that another guy use?
03:34:41.960
then you just don't want to admit you're wrong.
03:34:47.140
you can better sterilize and clean a sex toy than you could a penis.
03:34:53.140
So are you arguing that if you would never use a sex toy that was used on another woman,
03:34:59.500
that you would never fuck a dude who's fucked another chick?
03:35:04.600
We're just saying that you should get new sex toys.
03:35:20.340
I only want to use sex toys that are brand new.
03:35:25.020
even if they're perfectly capable of being washed,
03:35:27.400
they're non-porous sex toys that you can clean.
03:35:33.560
If that's your preference when it comes to the use of sex toys.
03:35:42.860
do you tell the girls that you're like going to use these sex toys on?
03:36:06.660
Am I supposed to just throw away a perfectly good fucking vibrator?
03:36:39.740
You should probably get over yourselves and quick,
03:36:42.340
because I currently see many cats in your future.
03:37:07.800
We got some Canadian people in the chat tonight.
03:37:12.480
So you are against the use of a sterilized toy from another woman,
03:37:18.440
but you are advocating for the ability to be promiscuous and promote OnlyFans.
03:37:41.300
Would you object to your boyfriend using a toy on you that was used with another woman,
03:37:54.340
What about the women that have the toys and we use it with different men?
03:37:58.100
It's not like we get a new Hitachi every single time.
03:38:11.560
But what about like when if I were to hook up with someone and I bring my toy with me,
03:38:22.500
like a perception of germ component to it where it's like,
03:38:40.200
Swords could have like fake sword with real sword could have crossed.
03:39:16.660
is I'm sure the woman just be buying sex toys every new year.
03:39:24.340
they're not bringing the sex toy to the situation.
03:39:34.040
If you have an issue with him having his own toys,
03:39:47.640
If I was like going to hook up with a guy and then he's like,
03:39:50.500
just pulls out like a collection of like sex toys.
03:40:04.060
let's say he's got a whole drawer full of sex toys.
03:40:19.040
It depends on your guys' relationship and on the vibe.
03:40:22.000
If you guys talk about it ahead of time and he's like,
03:40:25.520
Then why are you going to go into it and then complain?
03:40:27.360
But if he knows that he really haven't talked about it and then he's like,
03:40:38.760
We have two more super chats related to the sex toy thing.
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no more sex toy related super chats after this,
03:40:52.800
Bangs has absolutely no substance to anything she says until she finally speaks facts about
03:41:23.480
There is a difference between PH change and PH being messed up.
03:41:33.680
this was dumber than the financial abuse argument.
03:41:47.380
it's also a little concerning when a man knows too much about a woman's body.
03:42:07.680
but PH balance could be easily disturbed by just about anything.
03:42:35.100
But it also has to do with promiscuity because promiscuity can lead to a
03:42:44.440
I feel like both parties are accountable in some cases,
03:43:00.860
thank you everybody for the support over on Twitch.
03:43:27.880
thank you everyone who's super chatted and sent in TTS.
03:43:31.780
I very much appreciate all your patronage tonight.
03:43:40.680
let me try to get through everyone's notes here.
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I also think men like younger women simply because they'll put up with more BS
03:44:03.120
And that's why they make up things like the wall.
03:44:05.420
I think men fail to consider that women are the gatekeepers of sex because men made the gatekeeping thing.
03:44:13.480
You think men like younger women simply because they'll put up with more BS than older women?
03:44:25.400
Like I'm talking about men that specifically are like,
03:44:28.240
I want an 18 to 20 year old when they're like 35 to 40 years old.
03:44:32.740
What do you have in common with an 18 year old?
03:44:35.820
You don't think it's based in like biology or evolution?
03:44:42.120
you don't think that there's any attraction triggers in both sexes that are,
03:44:51.600
but I don't think that a 35 year old man has anything in common with an 18 year old.
03:45:00.140
like the most extreme that you could use without going into like,
03:45:06.680
I'm not talking about 25 year old men dating like 20 year old women.
03:45:22.540
if it's just like a relationship that happened naturally,
03:45:24.520
but I'm talking about the men that are specifically like,
03:45:26.640
I'll only date younger women because they like,
03:45:32.860
that's a straw man of the reasons why men prefer younger women.
03:45:50.140
men do gravitate towards younger women because they have more so of an
03:45:55.720
So if we're talking about like evolutionary things,
03:46:11.120
their sexual market value peaks in their thirties.
03:46:18.660
So that's the disparity that we're talking about here.
03:46:26.360
it comes back to evolutionary psychology and biology.
03:46:29.880
There's some outliers that are weirdos and creeps,
03:46:34.400
But I don't necessarily think that those are exceptions.
03:46:39.880
the woman in the thirties are hitting their wall.
03:46:41.600
You should go after the young hot girls because it,
03:46:48.500
So you think it's because what other guys are saying?
03:46:50.380
Cause it's what they're naturally attracted to.
03:46:52.360
If a guy is naturally attracted to that and he's high caliber enough to be able to get it.
03:46:59.160
What do you think a four year old has in common with an 18 year old that isn't predatory and weird?
03:47:31.160
Zerka said his goal is to be one of the funniest comedians in the world.
03:47:34.020
You can't reach that level without saying shit that offends people.
03:47:37.180
He's literally said that on multiple occasions.
03:47:42.500
I'm saying a lot of men do think that way though.
03:47:47.060
And anyone perpetuating that when they have people that are watching them and they have a platform,
03:47:51.520
men are also going to start thinking like that when they're watching that,
03:48:00.160
men are going to be proclivity to like younger women.
03:48:04.280
Everybody look how rude Neve is being by texting on her phone.
03:48:13.920
My mom asked me if I put the chicken in the sink.
03:48:21.860
I think when you have a platform and you're perpetuating that,
03:48:25.140
then younger men are going to look at that and emulate that.
03:48:29.240
he's not the only person that's perpetuated those ideas and been serious about it.
03:48:33.000
I feel like people who have a proclivity for something are going to follow that.
03:48:40.240
then they're not going to magically think that because Zerka makes a joke about it on
03:48:46.360
And there are these like red pill podcasters that perpetuate the idea.
03:48:50.140
a woman's going to hit the wall in her thirties.
03:48:52.120
look how many men were calling Margot Robbie mid on Twitter last week.
03:49:04.320
She's meant to be the quintessential perfect woman.
03:49:29.640
basically the patriarchal society that they complained about,
03:49:40.340
Can you explain to me what the word woke means?
03:49:55.180
you're trying to describe something without actually describing it.
03:49:58.940
I don't really want to use the word woke because that's not the right word.
03:50:04.820
I feel like the issues that Barbie was bitching about.
03:50:19.980
but we were talking about older men and younger women.
03:50:22.520
How the fuck did you guys get to Barbie from that?
03:50:29.460
Society has really like messed up standards because now apparently Margot Robbie is considered
03:50:41.500
what's the largest age gap for you that you've ever had?
03:51:01.020
But you said your last relationship was six years ago.
03:51:29.960
but I mean like 23 years old isn't exactly like a fresh adult.
03:52:37.680
but I can say that it was definitely predatory.
03:52:50.100
couldn't you argue that women who are seeking sugar daddies is predatory?
03:52:55.360
but I think that's a completely different facet of like an actual relationship.
03:53:13.260
What's the standard that makes one disgusting and the other one acceptable?
03:53:23.180
It's not a man going after a woman based on inexperience.
03:53:36.300
Purity is valued in literally every single culture,
03:53:47.700
Men do not have to work really hard to get sex.
03:53:51.860
They need to work really hard on themselves in order to attract a high number of women.
03:54:01.920
Simmer down because I can barely even hear my thoughts.
03:54:44.060
Most women have very high prerequisites when it comes to men,
03:54:55.560
I would say that I agree with some of the things that you're saying.
03:55:03.980
but it's because we hold the power because we're the ones.
03:55:10.440
Would you say that younger women seeking older men with money is financial abuse?
03:55:32.360
Predators are cougar milfs chasing younger men.
03:55:53.700
How old do you think your early fan subscribe is at,
03:55:57.980
What does that have to do with the personal relationship?
03:56:10.960
I can't even fucking talk because you're literally screaming and fucking being so rude right now.
03:56:30.480
We should be able to have conversations without yelling.
04:15:37.340
because they didn't have a father figure in their life
04:15:54.500
in the situations where we need to take accountability
04:16:10.100
and I'm not saying girls don't go for that sometimes
04:17:15.100
I consensually dated a man who was older than me
04:17:32.560
would you object to a 31 year old dating a 21 year old
04:18:06.660
I don't think that there's anything a 29 year old
05:03:46.120
and i always tell them that they who you're in love with somebody yeah but i've only hung out
05:03:53.800
with them like twice but i just i told you i fall in love really fast what okay um anybody else
05:04:01.080
compliment when's the last time you complimented a man i'll compliment men all the time yeah all the
05:04:05.480
time honestly yeah um besides my boyfriend i told my dad he had a really nice hat before i left oh that's not how i thought that sentence was gonna ravel itself um amy what about you yeah like uh so i was just on uh rollo and michael share i told them that they are some of the smartest dudes i know so far as evolutionary psychology goes
05:04:26.820
i think that men appreciate compliments a lot more than women do yeah so i think that giving a man a compliment is something that we should do more often yeah because they get them a lot less than we do exactly and they remember that like if you tell a man something good that good that they did or you know something that they wore or whatever like that's gonna stick in their head forever not to say that women don't appreciate compliments but i think that men get them less
05:04:50.780
yeah yeah i just remember that shit for life yeah and i think about the saying all the time that like men only get flowers on the day that they die and i think about that a lot you know like i love to give men flowers i like to buy gifts i like to show appreciation for the men in my life whether it's my dad or my boyfriend or my brothers or whoever the case may be because they don't they don't get as much attention and praise as women do and i mean i think that that's just fact very true very insightful thank you i told a guy in music city that he had a really good singing voice
05:05:20.300
and i told him you know a lot of country artists they have like the same sounding kind of voice and it can all blend into one but yours really stands out like you have something different he just looked at me with like big eyes he was like so touched and it was like just a genuine compliment so they understand yeah okay we have mpc irl uh bang's real name is rumple stiltskin essie though uh who rumple stilts stills rumple stiltskin what's his name rumple stiltskin what's his name rumple stiltskin it's like a
05:05:49.980
i know what it is it's just evading me okay we have eyes wide shut with the canadian 50 merci beaucoup did the neck
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tatted of through a foe really insult her entire fan base while attempting to insult me lol i hope they're
05:06:03.560
watching i just want to say i didn't insult my fan base i love them i insulted you baby that's all personal
05:06:09.460
oh eyes wide shut 1989 from canada from vancouver thank you uh okay all right um let's see here
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okay we had naomi here with some notes here uh we're gonna skip the helicopter thing um if men
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approach and talk to women in the gym mall grocery as much as they stare at us at those places we might
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actually get to a place in society where we could eliminate dating apps talk to us we talk back um
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i mean my my response to you is why don't y'all start approaching men do you ever think about that oh i do
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oh man i like a guy i'll give you hints but as a traditional woman i'm not trying to like sort
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you out like a like a wildcat in the jungle but i will give i will drop like obvious hints like
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especially in the gym like you know you get a lot of attention when you're working out or whatever even
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anywhere but you're kind of like look back smile and like they're just still like looking at you
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acting like they didn't see you and you're like yeah you make it obvious yeah well and this ties in and
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we were kind of uh and amy was about to cook on this about is dating easier for men or women we'll
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touch on that here in a sec but you do say most of the time we will agree to a date simply because
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you made the effort simply because i know that's bullshit that's no that's fucking bullshit no it's
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not you will agree to a date nobody does it made the effort somebody does it no one has literally
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so you're doing pity dates no no we appreciate the effort like that's that's attractive to us like
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that you're bold enough to do that i just think it's all in the approach because a lot of men
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approach women in a very like weird way or predatorial way or they like think that they're
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coming on to a woman when they're actually just being creepy yeah well you know it just depends on
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situational too like if you're at a bar and you know you know what's going to come at you but i'm
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talking about like you know gym like mall like you get a lot of stares and well and i mean it just
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like i said it's all in the approach like if you're giving somebody also like the physical body
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language of oh i'm looking at you you're also looking at me like this is an inviting
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open invitation to come speak to me and it you know it's different like there are guys that say
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really you might be in that situation they come up to you and give you like the worst pickup line of
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all time or say something really gross to you and they think that that's like a compliment and it's
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not very noble yeah like it's a different there's a difference in a guy coming over and being like
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oh my gosh you know i see you here all the time like you know you're i'm i'm really impressed with
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your dedication to working out you're really beautiful would you like to go out and a guy coming over
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and been like damn girl your ass is so nice like you know what i mean yeah i mean i think it depends
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on whether or not you're attracted to them women agree to go on like maybe it's the case it could
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certainly be the case that in the past because men because there weren't dating apps more men would
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like approach women but now because of dating apps like men don't really have to approach women as much
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so like there are less men approaching women out in the wild let's say so maybe it's the case that
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the men that are still actually approaching women might actually probably lean a bit more
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attractive hold on jan non-class and donated 99 dollars yeah thank you man a woman whom wanted
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her intentions to be known would drop a handkerchief the man would pick it up and return it this gave him
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the opportunity to ask her put eyes across the room ain't it yeah i agree women need to start
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carrying handkerchiefs but uh yeah so i think that the the cohort of men that are probably still
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approaching women is actually starting to skew like maybe a little bit more attractive but in any case
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i don't i don't know if i agree with most women are going to agree to a date when you approach them
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also with like porn addiction nowadays it makes men way less likely to actually talk to girls in real
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life and pursue them that's why you have a point because women gotta pick up the slack y'all make
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that emotional connection digitally with you guys so they kind of in real life women they don't they
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don't really care to do that because it's right at the tip of their the parasocial relationships that
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actually that brings up my thing so there's there's less time spent with men chasing women
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all that good stuff yes like 10 15 okay yeah i know it's getting late we are going to try to wrap
05:10:19.680
soon it's just like the the the a lot of us are from far away so many far away so many super chats
05:10:25.740
i am going to try to wrap up and play secure i'm going to try to wrap up here very soon guys so
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thank you for your patience i'm so sorry you guys i had a guy oh in and out hello okay um i had
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a guy wait this is ali now you had a guy lied to me about his name and age oh wait background check
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you did the background check i think i just want to clarify i did do a background check someone said
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i just did a google search but the background check came after that you started the business
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together you invested 35 000 under his fake name then had to contact the wells fargo department and
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took months to get the money back yeah i had to talk to the high dollar fraud department to get back
05:11:03.180
the 35 000 why does this shit always happen to you and your friends like this entire time you have
05:11:07.720
like i feel like my friends are similar to me and like we're very naive and gullible yes you guys
05:11:12.980
i'm very gullible ali could i have 10k for a business i mean i was in love okay we talked to
05:11:21.360
investors i was like flying across the country with him and like doing all these business meetings it
05:11:26.400
was a business for like basically an only fans competitor platform sure and i didn't really want to do it
05:11:31.420
and i realized that but i was just like in love so i was like kind of being a yes man at first
05:11:35.040
and then he'd put me in front of these like ceos for all these companies and like i had all like
05:11:39.520
the experience and the knowledge and like this and that um and yeah i ended up not wanting to do it
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but it was invested underneath his fake name so the high dollar fraud department ended up giving me
05:11:49.820
the money back word good times and then we have our girl anna hi that's how you say your name
05:11:57.460
right no how do you pronounce it anna hi so in your pre-show notes to us you said you picked up
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a loser man an hour away from me and got pulled pulled over and got a ticket you got a ticket yeah
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did you smash oh god did you yeah she did she did i did i was but okay like i was not at a good time
05:12:21.680
in my life okay it was not a good time in my life that's all i have to say and i was like the first
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like tinder guy that i had ever like met up with first yeah okay okay you also said men that want
05:12:35.180
bad bitches but can't handle dating bad bitches we already talked about that that's what the jonah hill
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yeah we talked about that jonah hill drama oh are you are you a bad bitch yeah show of hands who
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here is also a bad bitch i think everyone yeah we all are bad bitches am i a bad bitch yes if you
05:12:51.880
want to be yes okay gosh don't exclude me over here okay sassy man apocalypse what what's that
05:12:59.660
what is this man apocalypse what is that men are so sassy nowadays men are sassy yes they are
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so much men are sassy back talk so much back talk so much back talk what's the example of back
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talk give me an example literally okay i remember not like necessarily back talk but like they're just
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sassy i remember one time i was like talking to a guy and then he like said good night to me at
05:13:21.320
like five and five in the afternoon just because he was upset that is a sassy man that is a sassy
05:13:27.820
sassy little man one of the other reasons men don't approach women anymore is due to being falsely
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accused literally men that have been like actually gone to trial and have been accused and there
05:13:43.000
there is like reports on them live a very happy life there is a man no listen to this there is a
05:13:50.580
man who and where i live he's like top chef top like literal news articles about this man
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you google his name first thing that comes up is an entire police report but you realize these
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allegations destroy people's lives right what men literally yeah i think this is very rarely
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you think very rarely do allegations like this destroy people's lives and reputations
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look here just john i'm sorry but that's really johnny depp you know had his fucking thing ruined
05:14:18.720
she took a shit on his bed like come on uh team member heard
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what really yeah i've been wait oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa that's a hot take
05:14:28.760
hold on hold on hold on hold on show of hands team member who's team amber heard
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oh wow tmi tmi definitely makes sense did you watch the trial yeah i did but i also know the uk sun trial
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as well which is basically the counter i never gave a fuck thank you for sharing that
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i don't know i don't know i don't give a fuck about okay or amber heard i i mean i'm trying to bring
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something to the table that i do give a fuck about i think that one piece i do fucking love one piece
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no but like for real like gear five coming soon
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i haven't does anyone have any idea what are the words that are coming out of anybody
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okay let's see i think we're fully caught up on everything
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what uh just hold on there's one more thing oh we had one more thing for anahe and then we're going to wrap
05:15:56.840
uh there was some videos but honestly it's already so late so unfortunately we're not going to react to any videos
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uh we could wrap on the patrice thing we'll we'll wrap on we'll wait for anahe we'll do that then we'll wrap on patrice
05:16:08.700
uh we have a quick video we're going to wrap to find out
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we haven't done the patrice video in a while so we're going to do that
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uh before we wrap anyone speak now forever hold your peace any final thoughts before we
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real quick real quick sorry it's very coincidental that the two of us happen to be on the same podcast right now
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because we were caught up in some recent twitter or rather i was caught up in some recent i stayed out of it
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yeah there's just one thing that i want to clarify so there's this girl lauren de la greener
05:16:38.380
well hold on hold on i don't know if we i don't know if we talk about this on the pod
05:16:42.800
oh okay no worries maybe yeah let's just i don't want i don't want to get dragged into you don't want the smoke
05:16:47.880
i don't want to get i don't want to get dragged it's pretty viral right it's just funny that the whole girl they're talking about the whole time is here on the podcast and no one's heard a single word from her
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yet it was all but we can we can keep it a secret it's fine we don't need to tell them i made no statement
05:17:01.920
we don't need to tell them it's fine wait are you wanting to make a statement or what everyone's been
05:17:06.900
waiting for her to make a statement for like the last month and she never has so i mean we can keep it a secret
05:17:12.900
okay here one's in the chat chat are you able to pull up the regular chat um oh yeah maddie had to take off
05:17:21.560
guys um so uh chat do we yes does she talk about it are you talking shit about any i don't want to
05:17:31.420
like i'm not talking shit it's not no i'm near no no no no have you ever dated a bogan uh no i have
05:17:39.740
never dated a bogan absolutely not what's a bogan it's like the australian equivalent of a redneck
05:17:44.740
yeah what is it called again a bogan a bogan a bogan yeah okay have you ever dated someone from
05:17:50.880
perth no i was actually born in perth though funnily enough and i moved when i was like two
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three my family moved me to queensland okay all right uh wait they want to hear the the stuff
05:18:03.040
okay really quick y'all want the smoke they want the tea okay so basically the whole thing is that
05:18:08.620
this girl lauren was saying that that wait so should we save this for the after show you guys
05:18:14.640
down to kick it yeah like for a few minutes just because some people might have to okay we'll save
05:18:18.060
it for the after show if you want to see the the juicy drama stay tuned for the after show anahi
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okay last one here also dating as someone with borderline so you have bpd yeah is a lot more
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difficult because every man wants to be nonchalant nowadays and that simply doesn't work for me
05:18:37.380
yeah because you're bpd no i feel like i need constant reassurance and every man is like
05:18:44.680
yeah i love you whatever you know like they don't show their love they're not really affectionate
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they're kind of just like nonchalant like it's a thing to be nonchalant nowadays have you ever
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slashed a tire no i think you should disclose your emotional needs to the man beforehand so that i do
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i do i do trust me i do i have that conversation with them uh so how does the bpd manifest itself
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you know in your life what do you mean how does it come out you you say you have a
05:19:16.060
what is it a diagnosis or yeah it's a diagnosis so you have bpd what what are the symptoms how does
05:19:22.020
it manifest itself can we talk about this another podcast please i'm so tired brian it's okay i'm
05:19:28.840
actually curious what you would say though i yeah i can tell i can go on and on and on about this
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word okay so the last thing is you were saying that it's men have it easier to get who was saying
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that easier it's easier for men to get laid yeah i think i did say that does anyone agree with that
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easier for men to get laid as compared to women i think that i don't i mean i feel like if you say
05:19:51.740
that that's kind of saying that women are easy like that statement in itself is implying that women
05:19:55.940
are easy so i mean i know i know guys who have a roster that really have put girls on rotation
05:20:00.780
yeah i mean i mean i don't really like to put value or high or low on somebody just based on like
05:20:06.900
their sexual preferences and things like that but i think that it's kind of an equal playing field
05:20:12.320
um and also i think that equal well yeah i mean men set this so we're talking about like
05:20:18.700
men and women okay they're different if we're gonna go there right so if you guys are saying that
05:20:24.120
men are setting the standard of what women should adhere to so women shouldn't be having casual partners
05:20:30.540
because men don't want women with lots of lots of bodies so there are a lot of women that are like
05:20:34.800
well i'm not gonna have casual sex then so then these men are not having casual sex and blaming it on
05:20:39.420
the women saying that oh well women are gatekeeping sex well why do you think they're gatekeeping sex
05:20:43.080
because you're literally shaming them for having casual sex devon jackson donated 100 hey devon what's
05:20:49.800
up future single mother bangs you have a lot of your personality to work on do you have a response to
05:20:56.760
mr devon jackson girl i'm tired i'm not gonna respond to you girl devon yeah please um you really
05:21:05.160
wanted to come in i think on the it's the dating is easier for men or it's easier for men to get laid
05:21:10.540
or i said the opposite no no but you were arguing against for sure yeah totally go ahead sure argue
05:21:18.340
i mean from every single level it's way way easier for women to get laid than men an average looking
05:21:25.080
woman a five out of ten could walk into a club pick up a guy a five out of five guy a five out of ten guy
05:21:30.860
would have to try really really hard and here's the thing when something comes easy it is oftentimes
05:21:36.620
there's less respect assigned to it but whereas for guys if they need to really work on that hard work
05:21:43.340
is rewarded so just based on that simple premise alone a woman who sleeps with a lot of guys that
05:21:48.460
came easy therefore it's not respected a man who slept with a lot of women generally he needs to work
05:21:54.520
on his character he needs to work on his hygiene his appearance his status his accolades his career
05:22:00.200
everything in order to be at the same level as that five or six out of ten girl what do you consider
05:22:06.140
hard work buying women drinks and talking to them no raising their caliber as a man so a high value man
05:22:12.320
meaning like working on his physicality being fit and healthy working on his hygiene uh you know
05:22:17.440
making a good sum of money right um high value men do not call themselves high value men well i didn't
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i didn't say that wasn't the prerequisite of what i just said i was i know i'm just saying i'm just
05:22:29.400
saying you're stating that men have to work on all these things in order to get laid and that is
05:22:32.800
completely false well as she was saying i mean unless there are points i'm with a huge dick right i'm
05:22:37.880
talking what was she saying go ahead go ahead so she was saying that she knows plenty of men that
05:22:42.540
also have rosters i know more men with very few men i know i know i know way more men that have
05:22:47.220
rosters than women okay but okay but okay i don't have a roster okay but the fact you could i know
05:22:51.520
three men if you know if you know a hundred men that have rosters a hundred men out of the entire
05:22:57.880
male population is a very very small proportion of men if you had to attribute a percentage to the
05:23:03.960
amount of men who could easily just have a roster of women what percentile would you give it would
05:23:09.500
you say 10 percent of men can do that 20 percent of men can do that would you say 50 percent of men
05:23:14.220
can do that would you say 100 percent of men can do that i mean obviously not 100 i think 100 is
05:23:18.680
kind of ridiculous but i mean how many women do you know that have rosters would you say it's it's
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they could that's that's the thing it's capability capability sure but i mean i whether you i think
05:23:31.220
that probably as long as a man is actually putting in any sort of effort at all they can probably get
05:23:36.520
are you serious yeah you're delusional no no no no men need to work so hard on what planet
05:23:45.700
on what planet if you are decent looking if you are halfway decent looking no i no no no
05:23:52.440
decent looking not not i want to go i've met some ugly ugly dudes that have been pulling
05:23:56.800
i've met some ugly dudes that have been pulling yeah i mean like it's it's all based on personality
05:24:03.360
right like women women still have to have a semi-decent personality 99 percent of the time
05:24:08.200
i would say that attraction does contribute it contribute to it though and and it could be
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true that men do have to work harder in some circumstances especially if they're it could be
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it is true it is yeah that's what i meant it is true that they have to work harder i don't know
05:24:22.800
okay hold on a couple questions here a couple questions here has a guy ever made you wait for
05:24:28.640
sex yeah actually more okay all right here's yeah generally generally generally speaking who's
05:24:37.900
making who wait for sex men i think it depends on the situation it depends oh my god bro yeah that
05:24:44.900
goes back to what i said earlier about women hold like we what's like the stupid lock in the
05:24:50.000
gatekeeper oh my god yeah women were the gatekeeper that's what like the yeah okay also how do you
05:24:57.360
explain if if it if it is the case that men have just to just clarify your position you think it's
05:25:03.640
about equal between men and women when it comes to the ease or simplicity with which they can secure
05:25:09.440
uh sex you say it's about equal yeah equal absolutely okay so how do you explain the incel phenomenon
05:25:15.380
which is exclusive in men i mean there's fem cells it's like it is literally impossible for a woman
05:25:21.440
to be involuntarily celibate i mean it is impossible have you been on tiktok yeah that's not
05:25:27.000
involuntary what involuntarily celibate there are women okay so you she could argue she could go out
05:25:32.940
and actually speak to women i mean like they literally hate women they think they're like they deserve
05:25:38.320
sex that's what they think not all yes yes what's the true definition of an incel okay
05:25:43.060
for involuntarily celibate so despite desiring wanting to have sex you are incapable of having
05:25:50.960
sex now there are women who are voluntarily celibate for example like she's voluntarily celibate if she was
05:25:58.040
so inclined and for religious reasons if she was so inclined she could get sex tonight right i mean
05:26:04.920
but these men literally if you're going and actually speaking to these men they have like
05:26:08.780
no actual interest in going out and talking to a woman it's not necessarily true a lot of people
05:26:13.760
who are incels uh become bitter i'd say from their interactions with women because they did go out
05:26:19.900
and they experienced something really shitty yeah okay but i mean they're the the the villain
05:26:25.260
i never said that women are the villain i think you just love to misconstrue my words i'm saying that
05:26:33.420
women could be fem cells too you mentioned them too i think that experiences with the opposite
05:26:39.520
gender do affect the way that you perceive them obviously in like your interactions i wouldn't say
05:26:45.280
that incels and fem cells are entirely socially inept or entirely like devoid of social interaction
05:26:53.260
in general i'd say that okay let me let me ask everyone a question here all the women at the table here
05:26:57.860
a question let's say tomorrow you wake up let's assume some of you let's just say everyone's
05:27:03.640
single here if you were so inclined do you think with 100 certainty if your mission for that day was
05:27:10.860
i want to have sex i want to get laid do you think you'd be able to do it yeah with with 100
05:27:17.700
certainty yeah so that's the difference only a woman can wake up in the morning and say i'm going to get
05:27:22.780
laid today with all certainty and have it come true sometimes i say that and i that doesn't happen
05:27:27.640
to me yeah okay you if as a woman you download the dating app or you go out to a bar or you even
05:27:35.580
just approach a guy with certainty if you wanted it you could get laid 100 100 whereas like most dudes
05:27:44.940
even though good looking dude it's not a given he's going to get laid if he like goes out to a bar
05:27:51.160
or club or he's on a dating app i mean dating app i think dating app it's hard because it's harder
05:27:56.900
for men to get laid i think you absolutely could i mean i see women that are looking for help us on
05:28:00.880
dating apps all the time right but with perhaps with a certain tier of men and also i like another
05:28:05.500
thing i would add there has to be some degree of planning like any of you even though it's sunday
05:28:11.240
it's fucking late as fuck any of you could probably hop on tinder right now tonight and fuck a dude
05:28:19.240
tonight i don't care how attractive the dude is there's like no chick it's gonna be extremely
05:28:28.140
difficult for a dude to hop on tinder on a sunday at fucking midnight i don't care how hot he is and
05:28:34.120
fuck a chick that night there's gonna have to be some planning it's not gonna just go down like that
05:28:39.240
i mean like if i go on tinder i'm gonna have to plan that with the guy
05:28:42.820
yeah but but if you're if you were open to same night like if you were pushing for the same night
05:28:49.440
you could get it whereas it's not you like guarantee you could probably get it whereas it's
05:28:53.900
not a guarantee for men yeah can i say something real life experiences i have two really close friends
05:29:01.080
of mine who are guys and they have the hardest time finding a woman even just to have sex boom
05:29:06.720
one of them has been celibate beautiful four years huh and he's a decent he's a decent dude
05:29:11.080
he's on the spectrum but he's like a really decent guy and he struggles even my other friend he's six
05:29:15.920
foot four an attractive dude oh damn has an amazing job six and he hasn't gotten laid in a year
05:29:21.040
that's how you know okay can you show me photos after the show just so i can see but you did mention
05:29:28.220
he's not one of the guys is not neurotypical that's another point i would add if a guy is like
05:29:33.300
not neurotypical they're also just like a woman who's not neurotypical she's even not gonna have
05:29:40.080
an issue getting laid whereas a dude who's maybe a little you know whatever he's gonna strike he's
05:29:45.180
gonna severely stop back to chag bro sorry see take it from the horse's mouth like literally like i'm
05:29:51.300
rarted as fuck bro like you're not retarded no actually very smart yeah but it's honestly hilarious
05:29:57.680
it makes you really funny thank you i have yeah i'm i'm rarted but wait what about the bus tell us
05:30:04.040
about the bus but no i'm not saying tell us about the bus tell us about the bus no i'm not talking
05:30:07.800
about the bus the fucking short bus bro the fucking short bus they put me on that for like a hot minute
05:30:12.500
but then they realized i was like functioning so like they said no you can take the normal one
05:30:16.960
no but seriously like i've seen like like i made friends with this autistic guy like like over my
05:30:28.660
japan trip because it was study abroad and like i saw the way people like interact like like treated
05:30:32.720
him like they're like oh my god this guy's fucking weird bro like and other people like oh that's so
05:30:37.060
endearing her autism like oh she's so whatever like oh poor little thing poor little thing but they're
05:30:42.220
like oh my god bro that fucking jake bro he's fucking weird as shit bro like like hide your
05:30:47.720
kids bro like jake is fucking weird like there's like it just i don't know like i definitely see
05:30:54.640
the way the autistic men are treated i'm like oh shit that could have been it's rough out there for
05:30:58.160
for look men with any sort of physical disability or disfigurement or detectable detectable neurodivergence
05:31:05.660
are rarely treated with any measure of interest but that's not so for most women like a woman
05:31:14.980
could oh my god is that inappropriate is that inappropriate could she could she could what's
05:31:21.920
it called when the when you scoot in a wheelchair you could could runs not run circles around men
05:31:29.720
is that did i just cancel am i canceled they call that a crippy with a grippy what the fuck bro don't
05:31:35.560
say that shit don't say that shit um no but could wheel a woman in a wheelchair could wheel
05:31:41.920
around a guy who's not in a wheelchair in terms of getting laid wheelchair chick get some get a
05:31:49.940
new some new dick every night of the week i'm just saying i'm just saying listen i'm just saying
05:31:54.540
feel it though she's paralyzed from the waist down she's got like let's just say she's like
05:31:58.720
oh yeah okay canceled um okay good times good times look okay so you think it's easier for men
05:32:08.940
i didn't say easier okay you think it's equivalent it's equivalent i go home 100 percent yeah i mean
05:32:15.460
like hold on hold on we're almost my rides are getting my ride is patient hold on yeah they're
05:32:22.060
outside they're waiting hold on i want to play secure i know i want to go home and play secure
05:32:29.880
have a nice pizza wait okay so so what's up what's up i mean i would say fairly equivalent i you know
05:32:36.140
maybe after listening i could on but i think i think part of the issue is that if it is a little
05:32:42.280
bit more difficult for men to have sex with women is partially their own fault because of the
05:32:47.180
standards that they perpetuate onto women what yeah because women are going to be less likely to
05:32:51.820
want to have casual sex because they know they know they're going to be shamed for it later on so i
05:32:55.720
mean there are a lot of women that are very their standards are so high because they're like i have
05:32:59.500
to add every body i have to add has to count you think you think that's the only standard that women
05:33:04.480
has no not at all i didn't say that's the only standard that women have but when we have these
05:33:08.620
podcasts or there's these thousands of podcasts of men being like oh well that body counts disgusting
05:33:12.960
oh that's disgusting women are going to be less inclined to open up and want to have casual sex
05:33:17.420
unless the men man that they're talking to is like top tier like 100 their body's going to be worth
05:33:24.100
adding to their account because they know they're going to get shamed for it later wait so i think
05:33:27.980
women would be more inclined to have casual sex if men weren't so critical oh so you're arguing on our
05:33:32.920
side now you're now you're saying no i'm saying i still believe it i said if it's slightly more
05:33:36.820
difficult for them i would say that that would potentially be that's one well i mean couldn't
05:33:40.660
it be the case that in general women are more picky and more selective and have higher standards
05:33:44.660
i mean not necessarily i mean there's a again evolutionary and biological reasons for this
05:33:50.500
i do feel like a lot of guys will sleep with anything yeah men will sleep down but like
05:33:56.340
you you could say for example they've done studies on this or they've released the the data from dating
05:34:01.960
apps women swipe no on like the vast majority of men and women will frequently rank say women
05:34:09.000
find like 80 to 90 of men as unattractive here we i mean we could go around the table what percentage
05:34:16.600
of men do you find attractive so true i do not find it takes me forever to find an attractive guy
05:34:23.400
like literally every two and a half but you just said you like guys who are kind of frumpy or whatever
05:34:27.560
yeah but like to find one to find one where i'm just like oh my gosh like for me to really like
05:34:33.080
you want to find a frumpy hot ugly guy yeah i love that makes sense yes ugly hot dudes are a thing oh
05:34:40.280
hot ugly dudes are a thing well it's like the medium ugly standard that women talk about all the time
05:34:44.760
they're like oh i love medium ugly guys yeah that's pretty good like that's a thing that women are like
05:34:50.200
i love a medium ugly guy i also i don't physical looks have never been that big of a proponent to me
05:34:55.160
personally i'm did a guy shorter than you i have dated men shorter than me yeah is that your preference
05:35:00.680
is that ideal though um no it's definitely not my preference but i like i said earlier looks have
05:35:05.800
never been a really high proponent to me i find people a lot more attractive when i get to know them
05:35:10.840
most people that i find like physically attractive off rip um i generally end up not liking like
05:35:17.480
people become more attractive to me as i get to know them and like get to know that they're
05:35:21.000
get to know their good qualities okay all right well we have al res here alpha men
05:35:26.520
don't call themselves alpha men yet 50 of men call themselves alpha men and i guess 50 of men aren't
05:35:31.800
alpha men i don't know if have they done a study on the frequency with which men call themselves alphas
05:35:37.560
i've never i've never heard of that um i just i don't know if i'm going to be able to like this idea
05:35:46.520
that it's equivalent equivalent it's just boggles my mind that that i you know what will make you
05:35:55.640
feel better food yeah yeah that is that is deep i'm rather tired too i i wish i could argue about
05:36:02.200
this all night let's wrap it up let's wrap it up we'll do that as part two like i feel like yeah
05:36:06.680
we could do we can definitely we can definitely do oh yeah we shouldn't do a mukbang microsoft
05:36:13.560
came up we have the microphone phones for it yeah playstation here last last little train of
05:36:19.880
conversation here zip it zip it good okay um generally speaking like do you ever approach guys
05:36:29.480
yeah well i used to i used to all the time generally speaking though like who has to initiate
05:36:33.400
the first date men or women i mean on i mean like i think men expect themselves to have to but i would
05:36:39.560
initiate the first date a lot of times if you had to assign a percentage in terms of who's initiating
05:36:45.160
first dates what would you say would you say it's 50 50 like 50 of the time women initiate first dates
05:36:49.880
definitely not i would definitely say that men are initiating first dates a lot higher than women are
05:36:54.680
is having to initiate something does that add a level of difficulty to something i mean yeah but
05:37:00.360
if you're talking about dating and casual sex those are two very different things well don't i mean
05:37:04.920
isn't that sort of the same thing i mean not really like going on dates and actually pursuing someone is
05:37:10.920
a lot different than going to a bar going to a club and trying to just like hook up with the first hot
05:37:15.160
piece of so so okay let me ask you a question let me ask you a question if i go to a bar or a club
05:37:20.360
right um and i just stand there do you think i'm getting approached by any chicks probably not but
05:37:30.680
i don't okay so what do i have to do if i want to get laid talk to people i have to approach right
05:37:38.120
i mean a woman would approach you depending on the scenario but i mean if you're just standing there
05:37:42.280
awkwardly i mean i used to work at a nightclub and i would approach men okay that's great but
05:37:47.080
generally speaking women don't approach men in nightclubs i mean i i don't okay you do
05:37:51.960
congratulations but like i'm not saying just me i mean like i i was a bottle server and i watch it
05:37:56.120
happen all the time as a bottle server you not me i'm saying i would witness it in a club setting
05:38:02.440
of women going up to men probably just to drink from their bottle but like at the same time that
05:38:06.760
they're still approaching them okay but here's the difference right you put a guy in the club
05:38:12.040
there's a good chance that like he's just standing there he's not being awkward but he's just kind of
05:38:17.080
you know got a drink at the bar whatever he's just sipping whatever nobody's coming to talk to him
05:38:21.800
you put a girl in that same exact scenario some dude like she's getting approached you're just
05:38:28.040
mad that girls are prettier can i go home i'm not mad i'm not mad hold on hold on we're about to wrap
05:38:33.560
you sound jealous no i'm not i'm not jealous but i'm just arguing i'm not jealous
05:38:37.560
i don't know to be fair that is why they have strip clubs where like you know the dancers will
05:38:42.280
approach the man at the bar and that sort of thing so like i get what you're saying i still
05:38:46.200
think yeah i like franchise is like i don't know i get what you're saying and i get what you're saying
05:38:52.520
but i think that shut the fuck up not you not you her over here she's talking about anime and
05:39:00.920
shit no i'm talking about metal gear that's not anime bro i'm just saying like i don't know i'm just
05:39:05.160
i'm getting to yeah yeah i think that the last two metal gear games weren't as good as the other
05:39:09.960
ones i think wow that's beautiful that's a great that's a great thought okay so you get approaching
05:39:15.320
the bar who typically who goes for the first kiss men usually okay so then who like tries to maybe
05:39:23.560
move things forward in terms of oh you should come over to my place is that gonna be the guy or the
05:39:28.360
girl men men are typically okay what about like moving things forward sexually usually men
05:39:35.240
oh okay so if all these burdens fall on men it's not a burden if you're trying to get casual sex
05:39:40.840
that's you trying to get casual sex from a woman if that's a burden then don't do it
05:39:44.680
it is a burden it is a burden because all of these individual steps are potential points of rejection
05:39:51.240
so a woman could reject any one of these points okay so could a man okay so going up going up you know
05:39:59.080
doing the approach okay oh my god from me yeah metal gear solid three okay we're gonna get
05:40:07.080
approached by women at bars i mean that's just simply not true but okay some men who are exceptionally
05:40:13.640
attractive may get approached at a bar however i would argue that like an average woman is getting
05:40:20.840
as much attention in terms of the frequency with which she's getting approached as like a really
05:40:25.880
attractive guy because that's just the dynamic between men and women men are the initiators and
05:40:32.280
women really aren't initiating like that some women do but it's exceedingly rare can i initiate the
05:40:38.120
going home process shut the hold on we're almost done we're almost done we're almost done we're
05:40:45.560
almost done we're almost look 15 more minutes no he said 15 minutes bro this is cruel and unusual
05:40:54.360
punishment bro your mom is cruel and unusual for real bro she got creative with it bro like look
05:41:01.160
every step of the way there's multiple you know from the approach to asking for the number texting
05:41:06.760
planning planning the first date whether it's online or in person going for the first kiss moving
05:41:11.560
things forward sexually all these various steps these are each there's like dozens of potential points
05:41:17.400
of rejection that all that men almost exclusively face so just on that basis alone it's harder for
05:41:26.840
men to get laid than it is for women again i just i think that it's kind of like i i think i we're
05:41:33.240
never going to agree on this because i think that it's like fairly equal and i don't think fairly
05:41:37.720
equal i do and i don't think that men having to actually have conversations with women makes it
05:41:43.160
harder for men to get laid i mean if you're like a halfway decent dude and you just like aren't a dick
05:41:49.000
you could probably get laid okay so just be halfway decent dude yeah i mean at a bar like i've seen some
05:41:56.040
crazy scenarios i'm sure everybody else at the table has too let me ask you a question how many men have you
05:42:00.920
rejected me oh my god i have no idea hundreds thousands thousands let's go around the table
05:42:08.200
really quick here show of hands show of hands show of hands have you rejected more than a hundred men
05:42:16.280
perhaps i've never even talked yeah i mean are we talking like men that fall down the street
05:42:22.120
how many dudes have approached you how many dudes have slid into your dms if any of you have had dating
05:42:27.320
apps how many guys have you not like you not swiped on or how about you matched with but then just like
05:42:32.840
it didn't work out but ultimately ultimately let's say in person and you know women reject men more than
05:42:41.640
the reverse so on that basis alone it's harder for men to get laid if women reject if if okay let me put
05:42:50.120
it to you this way if you've rejected more men than have men rejected you simply by virtue of that
05:42:57.160
dynamic it's harder for men to get laid can i go hold on i think you have to agree with him bro if you
05:43:03.000
want just go just go if you want to go no no no no no don't be like that bro my mom gets mad when i
05:43:07.960
come late bro she she gets hell on that bro okay but you don't you're just being kind of obnoxious about
05:43:13.160
it so go if you have to go then go okay so okay uh um follow shut up dude okay so
05:43:18.600
you have the robot on instagram i'm sorry guys my mom nice to meet you my mom just gets mad bro
05:43:23.240
my mom's like the devil bro like you don't understand that's fun if you got to go excuse
05:43:27.160
yourself but we don't need you talking about anime and just interrupting and stuff okay
05:43:34.200
okay so i'm not going to keep everybody here i'll agree okay
05:43:38.840
she has a seat cushion why don't she have a seat cushion because she's short
05:44:01.720
men then you have been rejected by men 100 yeah hell yeah so to me that would indicate that dating
05:44:11.880
is harder for men getting laid is harder for men if you reject more men than the reverse like if you
05:44:18.520
reject more men then you are getting rejected by men then that necessarily means that dating and
05:44:24.840
getting laid is harder for men i mean i said like a while ago that it might be slightly more difficult
05:44:32.120
but like i still don't just slightly though but i but i think that slightly i mean i i think that
05:44:37.960
though i don't think that it's that difficult to approach a woman and have a conversation with them
05:44:43.960
it's a very privileged position to say it's really not that difficult to approach women and get laid
05:44:49.480
it's really not that difficult when you don't need to approach you don't need to approach men
05:44:55.400
to get laid because you can just pick from all the men that are coming to you
05:44:59.400
some of the times they're kind of not that cute yeah but you at least have a pool of options that are
05:45:04.600
coming to you that i don't want low quality men that but that that only reinforces my point that it's
05:45:10.520
hard if there's all these men that you don't want that would otherwise happily sleep with you
05:45:14.680
it's harder for men to get laid okay but this idea that it's only slightly harder like i don't
05:45:22.280
think you underestimate like you underestimate like any single girl here at this table could walk
05:45:28.280
into a club walk up to a guy and just be like hey do you want to fuck honestly that's a guy could
05:45:33.560
not do that a guy could not go up to a chick profound straight up hey do you want to fuck it's not
05:45:40.680
it's not gonna happen but watch hold on hold on um uh let's see um amy do you want to
05:45:49.480
tonight are you down to hook up tonight oh saved by the fucking tts donated 100
05:45:57.000
reality says it is difficult for men to approach women at bars or clubs last chat i promise
05:46:02.440
thank you thank you prometheus uh i i said no essie would you like to hook up tonight
05:46:12.920
um no i'm sorry whoa it's hold on willing i'm willing here but i've just been rejected by two
05:46:21.560
women at the state oh the horror i'm deeply hurt i'm i am heartbroken it is tough
05:46:26.440
it must be hard out there should i keep asking all the other girls no no no who's in a relationship
05:46:34.200
celibate so that's a no-go see look it's just harder for dudes it's harder for dudes
05:46:39.160
oh you made your point okay we're gonna wrap it we are going to wrap okay guys thank you so much
05:46:45.560
for tuning in tonight oh wait let me just double check if we uh so what is the after hours thing
05:46:49.480
uh we just dimmed the lights and uh okay back later if you guys want to hear this story we're
05:46:55.160
going to do it in like two minutes because i'm tired as okay guys last call hit the like button
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please on your way out uh nick can you pull up the twitch really quick let's get people uh twitch.tv
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slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub what the oh the patrice do we do the patrice
05:47:11.400
if it's quick it's it's quick guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub
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uh drop us a prime sub yep twitch.tv slash whatever thank you for tuning in tonight guys do we do the
05:47:24.600
patrice or what is that let's just what is that it's a video oh yeah let's fuck it let's do it okay
05:47:31.000
pull up the patrice clip that's it oh my god okay you got it all right i'll tell you a question here's
05:47:43.720
a question here's a serious question pay attention guys pay attention okay ladies if you didn't have a
05:47:49.160
vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right and the doctor was like we have to remove
05:47:56.040
your pussy right away or you're gonna die how would you keep your man past you get a two month
05:48:07.880
guilty i can't leave the bitch right away because she just lost the pussy in the train accident
05:48:21.080
how would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina
05:48:26.360
pause it what about you about you anal yeah i was gonna say we got other holes
05:48:35.560
i don't know i'm tired my brain can't think right now you got this dude i don't know what would you
05:48:41.080
that's so weird i am a nurturer i am a caregiver i'm a not a provider oops that's it what about you bj's
05:48:48.600
i agree i also concur yeah the other holes they can invert a penis on a trans oh my god
05:48:58.920
why you gotta oh well i hey if they can do that for men then i'm sure they can fix me right up if
05:49:04.120
that were over the case i'm not too worried about that there's no reason why our vaginas wouldn't oh
05:49:09.240
just be gone science that's how we pee science is amazing nowadays brian it's really impressive
05:49:15.240
we would no longer be what she said and i'd be a really good wife wait what what did she say
05:49:19.240
i think you said bj's yeah bj's okay all right okay those are some answers there go ahead
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wow nothing you can talk you can talk move the cursor nick suck his dick okay mouth
05:49:39.160
asshole okay great do you see what i'm saying now i've been getting the whole show right
05:49:50.040
but i give women the opportunity to say i want to make myself worth more but you just classified
05:49:55.640
yourself as a series of holes but but you know i'm
05:50:02.840
i'm supposed to teach you special but you're just a bunch of holes to yourself
05:50:06.120
no one said learn how to play xbox learn how to play pool tell better stories get another
05:50:14.520
bitch that got a pussy to come on in well look whatever do you guys have a response i was the
05:50:25.240
only one who didn't say wow first of all that's obviously a joke so it's meant to be taken as a
05:50:31.640
joke because let's be realistic a man is not going to stay with you he's not having
05:50:35.560
sex with you for real i wouldn't say disavow disavow essie if you lost in a terrible train
05:50:41.480
accident and we were married and we had kids if i lost all my holes you would still be with
05:50:46.040
well no no he's exactly he said the he said the pussy yeah so we offered other holes and then he said
05:50:54.040
oh yeah that wasn't good enough it had to be xbox but but you know what was the question
05:51:01.800
does anybody have any other further notes on that okay all right you guys did fall for the
05:51:07.080
you guys all fell for it though yeah yeah he got you he got you guys one in the morning all right
05:51:12.600
guys thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me
05:51:16.040
i appreciate that we will be doing a very brief after show with uh i think most of you have to
05:51:21.480
take off but you're stick you two are sticking around i think you guys have to take off though
05:51:25.880
is that correct oh you underscore have underscore no underscore idea donated 99 dollars i've had sex
05:51:34.280
with between 75 and 100 greater than average women grew up being called hot by both male friends and
05:51:41.400
females i date i make two hundred thousand dollars a year zero of the women i've had sex with were as fat
05:51:48.440
or unattractive as the two arguing it's still easier for them to get sex i mean if you're averaging
05:51:55.880
75 to 100 i don't really think that it's been that difficult for you my boy
05:52:00.840
also i don't really care about your opinion yeah nobody really cares yeah to be honest except brian
05:52:06.200
i know okay all right well thank you there uh i think uh i think we can all come to an agreement
05:52:17.720
here that it is in fact harder for men to get laid okay all right thank you to everyone who super
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dads donates and supports the show thank you to the panel thank you thank you to the wonderful panel
05:52:26.200
for i know we went late here tonight so appreciate your guys's patience we will be doing an after show
05:52:31.240
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05:52:36.680
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05:52:47.800
time good night guys and the after show begins oh sevens in the chat the after show begins
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follow us boom okay if anybody needs to uh go bye
05:53:04.440
so is it like a new recording no it's still it's still on hi guys hello
05:53:09.640
okay all right guys so we're just gonna listen we're gonna put this out there uh which i
05:53:39.560
usually would not want to put any type of like private business public but this was something
05:53:44.600
that was brought all over twitter something that was made a spectacle of um and it's kind of old
05:53:50.440
news in the sense that like xena and sneaker broke up but there was a whole issue with a girl lauren de la
05:53:56.120
greener is her name right uh where she was essentially saying that due to this lady here and what she witnessed
05:54:03.160
with her eyeballs from this lady here she was able to definitely definitively say that number one xena
05:54:10.040
was unhappy and number two sneaker was an abuser so what i found very interesting after speaking to her
05:54:17.080
very briefly is that i mean sneaker may be flirted with you a little bit right i didn't even really
05:54:22.440
take it as that to be honest so basically i was on the fresh and fit podcast with zirka sneaker and
05:54:29.160
and zina had invited me on the show and i was on there with lauren that was my first time ever
05:54:33.960
meeting her super sweet girl she lives pretty close to me in orange county and basically during the show
05:54:40.040
i was over on like the little couch area so i couldn't even really see sneaker during it i saw zirka
05:54:45.720
he was talking the whole time whatever and it's hard to miss yeah pretty hard to miss and afterwards
05:54:50.680
a big group of us had gone to sushi and so when we were at sushi there was like an open spot next to
05:54:58.280
sneaker like right across from him and so he started speaking to me he ordered me some sushi
05:55:03.800
and basically he was asking me if i wanted to be on his stream and so zina when she told me to come
05:55:08.920
on the podcast had already mentioned that to me would you like to be on some like big streamers
05:55:13.560
streams like give you promo blah blah blah right right and i know streamers like they want like girls
05:55:18.280
to be on there you know for more views and stuff so i took it as like a business thing and i was like
05:55:23.160
yeah i might be down and so when he brought it up i was like oh you're the guy she was talking
05:55:27.240
about right two and two were clicking you were like okay let's go no idea that they had any sort
05:55:31.960
of relationship um you know i was just sitting there making conversation right and so lauren was
05:55:38.280
supposed to give me a ride home she had offered to drive me home and my friend home who i was
05:55:44.200
staying with but she just got kicked off the show so she felt awkward eating sushi with everyone so
05:55:49.880
lauren ended up driving her home and then coming back to take me home and basically sneaker was like
05:55:54.680
do you need a ride home and i was like well you know like she was gonna take me and lauren was
05:56:00.360
looking at me like go with him go with him and so i was like okay i don't really care it's three
05:56:04.200
minutes down the street like what does it matter you know like maybe this is like a good person to
05:56:08.440
know like i work in social media i do youtube we were talking about my channel all business stuff
05:56:13.240
like i really didn't think of it as more than that and i'm not even sure it was yeah and so then i was
05:56:18.280
like okay like we were ready to leave i was like i have to use the restroom he waited for me to use the
05:56:21.960
restroom and during this time and see i don't like know if i'm saying too much like i don't know
05:56:27.560
no you're not you're not you're not this is just the truth this is literally just exactly what happened
05:56:31.320
right and everyone's been waiting for you because we've heard everything from lauren we've heard
05:56:34.520
everything from other people sharing their stuff and wanting to have a say yet we've never heard it
05:56:39.320
from the horse's mouth which is why this is so important that you actually say this right now you
05:56:43.880
know i think it's very important to let the truth come to life yeah and so when i was sitting there
05:56:48.120
like right after he'd asked like do i need to ride home and then i went to the restroom i was
05:56:52.120
like checking my instagram and xena was messaging me and she was like you're my friend like she was
05:56:58.280
like mad at me or something and i was like what is she talking about like i don't understand and um
05:57:03.560
basically like right before this had happened like she had like left the restaurant and i think
05:57:07.720
she was crying she was upset i didn't really know what was going on i had no idea that had anything to
05:57:12.200
do with sneeko and so like two and two did not click when she had dm'd me whatever i was just
05:57:20.840
like okay you know what is she talking about and before the show started she had asked my friend
05:57:25.800
and i who got kicked off if we could mention that like she put us on the podcast but there was like
05:57:30.280
15 girls on the panel i honestly forgot when i was introducing myself so i was like oh is she upset
05:57:35.080
that like i didn't like shout her out or something like i didn't know no no it's just that they're all
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promoted so that's kind of just like the standard yeah thing it wasn't anything so when she was like
05:57:43.960
oh i thought you were my friend or like you're my friend yeah i didn't know that was like her man
05:57:49.000
you know and i literally did not take it more as like a ride home and she she was the one who told
05:57:53.400
me about his stream and everything and so thanks for coming and so um yeah and then also i was thinking
05:58:03.160
like oh maybe when he invited me to be on the stream i wasn't like clarifying oh xena told me about
05:58:08.040
this like i didn't know like i was like that's the only reason i could think she would be like
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upset in any way so i was confused and then i almost like wanted to ask nico when we were going
05:58:15.960
to get in his car for him to drive me home because i didn't really know her that well like this is my
05:58:20.040
first time meeting both of them but i just kind of like brushed it off for a sec and i was like okay i
05:58:24.360
guess i'll like write her back when i get home i have no idea like why she's upset or like what this
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is about like it was unclear so then um sneak goes waiting for me outside the bathroom i get out and then
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i walk out with him and xena's like she's sitting on the back of someone's truck and she's clearly
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upset like i think she had been crying whatever and i go together a hug goodbye and i was like thank you
05:58:45.400
so much for having me on the show you know it was so great meeting you blah blah blah and she was like
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that's my boyfriend and i was like oh my god okay i'm not gonna let him give me a ride home then like
05:58:55.720
clearly you're upset like i don't know what's going on and then basically lauren was there because you
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know she was gonna give me a ride home first she was waiting yeah she was kind of like lingering
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basically and so then lauren was like oh my god blah blah blah and then sneko had like walked ahead
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of me and he was like waiting for me by his car and then so from like across the way i didn't get in
05:59:13.880
his car i wasn't even near his car i was like hey i'm sorry like i'm gonna let her give me a ride and i
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think he could tell it was because xena was upset like she had clearly said something to me which she
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didn't say much i was just like i'm a girl's girl like if there's any amount of like uncomfortability like
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he doesn't need to get me a ride like it's not that big of a deal i could literally uber if i
05:59:31.960
needed to right and so i basically didn't get in the car he did not get me a ride that was that and
05:59:37.640
then lauren took me home as well as like another girl and then when we were leaving like she tried
05:59:44.600
to get xena to come in the car because she was upset and xena was just kind of like i need my space
05:59:48.520
like i'm fine like right having a moment i'm good yeah like you know i don't really think they knew each
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other and um then i got dropped off and then from there whatever had happened with xena and lauren
05:59:59.720
if they had hung out talked whatever i have no idea xena did message me afterwards saying sorry
06:00:05.800
apologizing she was like you know i was just being emotional you did nothing wrong i think it's a
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really good business opportunity you honestly should go on sneeko's stream blah blah blah and you know
06:00:15.560
i'm starting to realize like who's zirka and sneeko are in the whole space and everything
06:00:20.040
and i'm like okay yeah but like i didn't know if it was gonna be drama so i ended up just basically
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not doing it regardless even though she gave me the okay right and then a couple weeks go by or
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whatever and then all this stuff starts breaking out on twitter saying that and i mean i think
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sounds like she would know more than me at this point because she was actually responding to the
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tweets xena did message me and she was like will you say something but i didn't want to be put in
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the middle because like lauren lives near me and like she was really nice to me and like i didn't know
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what happened after i had left you know but allegedly she was saying that like she had to
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pull me out of the car she said she girl she said she dragged you out of the car yeah i never got in
06:00:56.920
his car something along those lines and was literally saying that like that whole incident was a clear
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reflection of the fact that it was an abusive relationship this that and the other and you know
06:01:10.040
ultimately like my perception of the whole thing and i could be entirely wrong in fact lauren and i
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we're gonna debate on this we're gonna go on a public podcast and have a conversation yeah but
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i i literally think number one inserting yourself in people's personal business is like what's your
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incentive what's your motive number one but then number two at the end of the day all the stuff that
06:01:30.840
she was claiming is reaching like she was really fucking reaching with all that at the end of the
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day because number one you said you aren't a hundred percent sure that sneaker was even hitting on
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you i didn't take it like that it could have been construed like that number two you did
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not get dragged out of the car and number three there wasn't anything about sneaker was in his
06:01:48.680
relationship you construed as abusive at the time right i didn't even know they were in a relationship
06:01:52.360
exactly so and i mean he bought me a sushi and he was nice to me and offered me a ride but like to me
06:01:57.480
you know i would be doing something to help him on his stream get beers like be a hot girl and also
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they're in an open relationship so it's fine yeah and also being from la i feel like a lot of things
06:02:06.120
are like you know people have their benefits and like am i a party to this gossiping yeah am i am i going to
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get in trouble for oh no i don't think so for platforming this conversation i don't know but
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uh okay let's so did you guys kind of yeah we pretty much most of it out there okay all right
06:02:24.040
so a couple questions here for the after show and then we're going to we're going to try to wrap up
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here um my down dude my down story actually i'm not going to talk about that um okay so what was i
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going to say uh amy co-host for whatever sure bring me on yeah you down i thought i thought you
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were i will move to california to be a co-host for whatever i hate this state it is the devil
06:02:53.240
but let's go california yeah i mean it's where the you're in florida right yeah okay opposite like
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political ideology yo chat do you think do you think she uh she should be co-host y'all think i got what
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it takes i don't know they i thought you were good they really hate my accent a lot of the time
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i like australian they really they be roosting me about my accent like majority of the time not
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gonna lie i think australian accents are cool but they make fun of me because i've been living here for
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like uh close to six years now so it's kind of like a watered down australian accent yeah they don't
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like i don't know there's a couple times when you were like arguing with the the as and then
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i can't do that i cannot pronounce people's names yeah yeah and i was like and you were
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fucking cooking oh yeah you were i like to debate and you got you got heated too which i was like
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she called you a bitch it's okay it's okay people can say whatever they want it was it was
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amusing but yeah that was the xena lauren sneeko drama i know and a lot of people like that was a
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nothing burger i know but for those who know if you know you know if you know you know it was like
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blown up on twitter like i dragged the of girl i didn't even have a name i was the of girl yeah
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out of the car and he was abusive and i'm gonna do a poll i'm gonna do a poll to see if uh
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uh yeah right if uh we should have amy okay this is going to be a youtube poll it should oops
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someone said xena falsely accusing sneeko i don't know what she's accusing him of but be
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co co-host should amy be co-host okay we'll say yes no
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okay there's a pull up let's see what you guys have to say don't vote for yourself that's unfair
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i'm not even on there i want to text i need a co-host guys i need a co-host for this what
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happened to the um you had the christian guy right oh he doesn't want to do he doesn't want to
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i've off i've got too too hot i mean there's a lot to it but the offer was put out multiple times
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all right uh he didn't want to do it i feel like there are there isn't any with like a male uh female
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co-host really in this space it would be pretty cool yeah you've got you've got some strictly males
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and then you got one girl who's doing some stuff and then like a tag team guy and girl could be
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a good dynamic and you were debating pretty pretty well with uh with them so yeah so i went to law
06:05:27.960
school originally i was gonna be a lawyer and then i've done high ticket sales for the last several
06:05:31.240
years so yeah debating okay so that's your is like my thing hell yeah that's awesome yes sir
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that's what i do i'm honestly i'm trying to move out of sales and move into broad wait are you
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liquored up are you liquored up i've had i just you're i i got some alcohol on your barely it's
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like one of those like half a percentage closer to the mic it's like one of those half a percentage
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uh pre-made vodka drinks it's nothing um let's see they're saying 84 84 yes and 500 about 500 votes
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83 yes so there is that but uh yeah i think well one thing that could be beneficial if i did have a
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female co-host is like they can't it's not so easy to dismiss like a woman making the arguments because
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you could like you could just say to a guy oh you're a misogynist or you're like but it's
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it's really hard to like i suppose people are still going to throw that label on you but it's
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a little harder to make these sort of baseless accusations of either misogyny or sexism when
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you yourself are a woman and uh so yeah i would agree especially when you can back it up i mean
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there's certainly some women in this space who just kind of regurgitate stuff they hear from men and
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they get clout for it but if you're able to back it up with a little bit of psychology and real life
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experiences it's a little bit different i would say yeah so good times okay well i mean are you
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sticking around california for a little bit or are you heading back i am heading back fairly soon but
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hey if you need me to come back when you we have a show oh tomorrow okay i was gonna say we have a
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show on uh tuesday and i was just on michael's show too i was like damn i could have come down with
06:07:07.560
you at the same time you could have you know whatever mike yeah mike's coming on oh yeah guys mike
06:07:11.640
sartain is coming on tuesday so that's gonna be a good show i've learned a lot from him him and
06:07:16.040
roller mike mike is very very sharp so very knowledgeable i just need to check a couple
06:07:22.120
things here amy's gonna be the new fresh someone just said i don't know a lot of people say that
06:07:28.520
shit about me so maybe you're gonna be myron and i'll be fresh i'll just be i'll be the i feel like
06:07:36.200
i would play better as a good cop right i think oh yeah i'm pretty good at bad cops so that would
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work yeah i think it'd be easier for you to be bad cop but i feel i don't know i feel like i'm too
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i'm kind of more on the agreeable side like i don't know you're good at asking questions to bring
06:07:50.680
people to the logical conclusion versus being like hey you're being a ho right now i'll just
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tell them that they're being a ho it's fine okay yeah there you go yeah i mean i try to keep
06:08:01.400
everything you know polite with everybody no it's great like you you literally ask questions
06:08:05.800
until they say the point that you're trying to make anyway i try pretty good at that i'm okay
06:08:10.920
i'm okay i'm all right i you know sometimes i fumble hey the people asking the most questions when
06:08:16.920
there wait can what what's like some of the most australian shit that you could say uh honestly it's
06:08:23.160
all like faded but the biggest one is just no people absolutely love the way i say no in fact i think
06:08:28.120
i'm gonna make merch at this point because anytime i go on any show everyone's just like
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no no no no no no it's like the only thing they really want to say so that's probably like the
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number one thing i would say yeah i'm gonna make oh no merch oh no we first we need to get a formalized
06:08:44.520
like consensus of how to spell no in australian pretty sure it's n-a-u-r or n-u-r-r i don't know
06:08:51.640
you guys let me know not 100 no no is it true the toilets flush the opposite way they do wow that's
06:08:59.720
so cool yes i think that's why i want to go to australia just because of the toilet just to see
06:09:04.680
the toilets once in my life and it's on the other side of the road as well so that's why
06:09:09.400
i don't drive you don't know how to drive because when i first moved here i was 22 years old and it's
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literally the other side of the road wow you don't drive no i don't know how i don't know how
06:09:20.600
to operate you're 27 i'm 28 next month too yeah it's all downhill from that 28 i know my sexual
06:09:27.800
market value is oh my god yeah by the minute guys buy me a husband ace out are you are you christian
06:09:37.720
are you religious i'm christian yeah i'm a cussing christian oh what cussing christian you're a
06:09:42.760
cussing christian so you like to curse i'm a little rough around the edges but i'm christian
06:09:47.400
you curse like a sailor i believe in christ uh resurrection okay yes sir interesting okay i read
06:09:53.640
the bible not every day but i try to read it frequently are you waiting until marriage like
06:09:59.320
naomi who was sitting in that chair i wouldn't say no i'm i wouldn't say that i'm a born again virgin
06:10:03.720
but i will say that the next guy i date i would very much so like him to be my husband that would be
06:10:08.600
nice doesn't everybody say that though yeah i know but like i'm taking that pretty seriously
06:10:15.320
yeah i don't uh have sex outside of relationships there's been like two instances where that's
06:10:20.600
happened yeah haram haram haram i'm too slow fuck it never too slow fuck yeah that was a long show
06:10:30.200
it was a good show how long was that brian well we're at six hours and ten minutes right now wow
06:10:34.440
is that a record i was like no it's not a record but it's pretty fucking late even thinking about
06:10:39.320
doing like five hours was a lot the longest i've ever done is three on ali can you just scoot that
06:10:44.600
microphone this that one just like scoot it that way so yeah i was kind of blocking oh so i can tell
06:10:50.600
that you're like kind of ocd is that like an actual thing or just with the show i'm a little ocd
06:10:56.360
what's your sign i'm actually a little like i like things to be kind of like as such yes are you a
06:11:02.440
virgo taurus okay but uh oh fuck that's what i wanted to talk about the girls before the show
06:11:10.040
were like really getting heavy into astrology shit like oh my jupiter rising and and i really
06:11:16.760
wanted to talk about that but sadly i forgot about what talking about and talking about that real or
06:11:24.920
not real yeah i don't buy that ali you were like staring at me super intensely during that has anyone
06:11:31.480
ever told you you have like very intense i do i'm a scorpio i have like an intense stare eyes also
06:11:38.520
like i was zoning out a couple times oh so you're just looking at me and zoned out one time you caught
06:11:42.760
me doing that i was totally like zoning out so i was just like seeing nothing but yeah looking at you
06:11:47.160
i zoned out once as well just i i can get used to the length of these podcasts but here's the thing
06:11:52.520
here's the thing i don't want to make a habit i don't want to make a habit of having these ridiculously long
06:11:59.080
shows but recently the shows have been fucking long and like if it's good right and it's and it's
06:12:09.320
flowing then there's no reason to cut it short but when five out of like ten girls on your show say
06:12:14.760
brian i know but like i'm she's being like she would be great she was giving you a lot to work with
06:12:22.040
i there's been very few girls who have come on the show like a lot of girls will be like i think
06:12:28.120
dating dating the difficulty with dating is about the same which i disagree with but but like to say
06:12:34.520
that it's harder for or it's about the same when it comes to getting laid to me is like
06:12:41.400
so ridiculous like you can i think you can make much stronger arguments about well it's about equal
06:12:46.280
in terms of difficulty or frustration when it comes to dating but when it comes strictly to the ability
06:12:52.520
to get laid to me that's like so obviously not true that
06:13:03.480
like really i'm gonna like i just want to argue with you at that point like just continually argue so
06:13:09.720
and we had a a lot of a lot of super chats tonight like yeah i was gonna say that like
06:13:16.840
people were giving you the love oh nice which which i don't want people to think i'm like not um what's
06:13:23.800
the word like not um grateful for the patronage i absolutely am but you know the shows when like
06:13:33.320
and a lot of the super chats and you know the tts's were asking questions um you know like
06:13:39.560
i i'm not the type of guy that wants to just like glance over the soup chats i do like to try to
06:13:45.560
provide like actually you know read the whole thing and not just read it but also hey they ask a
06:13:51.560
question let's ask the entire panel and then then conversational threads you know start and then so
06:14:00.200
20 minutes later we're like wait how do we end up yeah yeah so um so yeah i mean i'm i'm super grateful
06:14:08.040
for for all the patronage but you know i think the first like two or three hours it was like
06:14:14.280
tts tts tts tts like which is thank you guys so much for your patronage but it is gonna probably like
06:14:21.720
i mean i wasn't able to get into like a lot of my notes that i had pre-written there were there
06:14:26.920
were three other videos we were gonna react to i'd prepared a couple other things we didn't even get
06:14:32.040
into that we rushed through a lot of stuff so i think just the convo was naturally flowing so
06:14:36.440
yeah um it was a really great show yeah it was good it was good so okay i love reading the comments
06:14:42.040
i know i try not to read them while i'm like on the show because it's so destructing
06:14:47.320
i can't help it it's like my favorite part yeah i almost wonder if we should uh
06:14:53.640
okay ruby brian you have lost 70 of your live viewers you used to
06:14:57.320
uh you moved it away while i was reading it but um it's all good um i don't know whatever
06:15:05.000
she but she said i used to get 30k now i'm getting 3k the only first off we've never had 30k we had
06:15:11.880
24k with destiny right with the destiny stream which i that was like a specifically assembled
06:15:19.000
fucking super panel where we had destiny his wife there were the two feminist girls that weren't
06:15:25.480
like whatever we had um we had yeah we had him we had chase we had john doyle we had mary from tim cast
06:15:34.200
and we had nev and then we had and we were just coming off of like some really insane shows
06:15:43.000
so like bro i'm not i'm not like disappointed that i'm not getting 24k every show when you just
06:15:50.120
yeah maybe that was like an exceptional show right yeah when you like stack a panel with
06:15:55.800
really big guests like when we had michael knolls on the show like we like doubled or tripled our
06:16:00.920
previous view count um when we had rollo and mike and justin waller we had fucking
06:16:08.760
about double or triple our normal view count when you like bring on some high ticket
06:16:13.560
with a high whatever you know some high profile high profile people like you're gonna have more
06:16:18.200
people tuning in the conversation is going to be much more compelling so yeah because their whole
06:16:23.160
community comes over as well as much as their community it's their community yeah but we also
06:16:27.640
i mean to be fair like there's been a little decline in the average viewer count that's partially
06:16:34.280
because i took like a month off and then we've we had like uh i think another thing that kind of
06:16:41.240
fucked things up over is we had like a group of only fans girls that showed up and i'm not going to
06:16:47.000
get into it but basically they showed up they sabotaged they sort of sabotaged they flash themselves
06:16:52.760
no but like we basically ended up not having a show and then like just little things like that are
06:16:57.640
kind of gonna and then we've had like a couple technical issues like some issues with the stream and then
06:17:05.320
yeah well no even that in our recent startup episodes also the panels have been a bit more tame
06:17:10.680
so i think like it's been a little less engaging and i haven't really like the past
06:17:18.120
six seven shows i haven't really booked like anyone super notable in the same way like bro okay
06:17:27.080
gorlock the gorlock episode was huge and then like i mean it is what it is um i took a month off it's
06:17:36.040
going to take a bit of time to build back up and yeah you know you have ebb and flow when it comes
06:17:41.560
to viewership it's it's part of the you know it's part of the hustle okay let me just read these little
06:17:46.280
small ones and then we'll get out of here angry casper thank you man uh actually can you read it i'm
06:17:52.520
getting parched w rw guy failed test for amy who is aaron piszi who is terence pop not sure okay
06:18:00.120
angry casper thank you for the new zealand uh i know who aaron piszi is she's like a one of the
06:18:07.880
i think she's she was in the uk she's one of the first women or well she opened up the first male
06:18:13.960
domestic violence shelter from oh yeah okay and she got she used to be a feminist but then she got
06:18:21.240
like ostracized because she wanted to open up a shelter for men okay uh okay shout out to you
06:18:30.120
yo major pain australian 10 thank you man i nominate myself as tribute for what what do you
06:18:36.520
he said it again amy i'll nominate myself as tribute only problem is i am improved
06:18:41.960
oh for romantically i guess i don't know ooga booga amy is a smart girl don't judge on past
06:18:47.720
what's your past whoever wins her heart is a lucky man i don't know that was i've been on fresh and fit
06:18:53.320
a bunch um and like since i went on since i went on fresh and fit from like the very first time there
06:18:57.880
were people saying like oh i know amy she used a guy for a green card but i just debunked it
06:19:02.920
recently on my youtube i posted up receipts of me paying for my own green card like last year it's
06:19:09.000
still not even fully in i'm on an adjusted says my green card comes in in october uh but i left my
06:19:13.800
ex-husband before our green card was ever finalized because the marriage was not going to work i think
06:19:19.640
that's what they maybe you're a divorcee i am i think that's what they maybe are referring to but
06:19:24.840
i cannot say for sure i cannot say for sure all right we have major pain here amy i'll nominate
06:19:30.520
myself as tribute only problem is i'm in perth oh okay okay you're in florida though aren't you i am
06:19:35.720
miami florida for now good times you're moving here to become the co-host exactly whatever podcast
06:19:41.960
bender the offender may have to up the tts to 150 yeah maybe i mean previously when like our view our
06:19:48.760
view count was a little higher we had super chat read like 100 and tts 200 but i wanted to lower that
06:19:56.600
back down a little bit so i lowered it to 50 to read 100 for tts you could argue like when you bring
06:20:03.480
on someone like bangs who's gonna like you know make for like a really entertaining show maybe you
06:20:09.560
boost it up a bit but i think it was appropriate it was the tts was very frequent though so you could
06:20:17.880
actually make an argument tonight that it was too low um but in any case in any case i'm still great
06:20:23.320
very grateful for the people who so generously uh you know spend their money and you know are patrons of
06:20:31.640
the podcast and uh it's very it's uh means the world because like like i said demonetized ad revenue
06:20:38.600
is not great um and uh you know a lot you know we do have a controversial show so it's hard to get
06:20:45.160
sponsorships and uh yeah so really i really appreciate everybody that is super chatting and
06:20:53.160
supporting in whatever way you are whether that's just even watching the show you know so
06:20:58.360
terence pop saved 526 men from canceling out so oh from deleting themselves i don't know i've never
06:21:04.200
heard that name but uh i'll take a look at it thank you casper appreciate it man okay any final thoughts
06:21:09.320
from you guys before we wrap it up here um for the person asking what my youtube channel is just
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search my name amy dangerfield and you'll be able to find me my youtube is ali hardesty there we go
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um and yeah just thank you so much brian this was awesome my brain is melted but this was fun yes thank
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you for coming i know we uh like i said i know what's up okay got it um i'll i'll read those yeah i'm
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glad we were finally able to get you guys on the show uh yeah thank you for having us this was really
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fun yeah thank you guys for coming really appreciate it and uh yeah and like i said i know we went late
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but uh yeah uh bender the founder you could also do it on a per show basis what do you mean
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just like bump it up sometimes type of thing yeah yeah we've done i mean we did that like when we had um
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um i mean when we have some like big guests coming on we're like okay if the tts is too low it's just
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gonna fucking interrupt way too frequently like and if i have like a guest who like when i had michael's
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michael knolls on i was like okay um i forgot what we said it to for the knoll show but i was like look
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this guy he's i don't want i want to try to limit how frequently tts interrupts michael knolls because i
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want him to have like a good flow and if it's just too frequent you know i mean that's the case
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for anybody but um for sure bangs was not entertaining she argues in bad faith alvin sam
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the michael knolls episode was awesome that was one of my yeah that was a good one i should have
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asked one of the things i i forgot to ask was uh would the girls date somebody who culturally
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appropriated that would have been a good conversation culturally appropriated you know cultural
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appropriation so is that like when people say that girls who get like braids is them being like
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racist or a guy who has um dreadlocks that's culturally appropriating well i mean yeah that's
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a little bit ridiculous but basically like this the kind of thought process i had with that is like well
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michael knolls isn't really like doesn't really talk about dating much he's a conservative
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is pundit the right word conservative pundit commentator pundit yes political he's a conservative
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political commentator and i was like okay well how can i kind of um weave in these so i was like well
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okay i asked the girls would you ever date a conservative would you do the guy who's pro-life
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would you ever date a guy who uh owns a firearm these sorts of things so i was like would you ever date
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a guy who culturally appropriated that would have been good unfortunately maybe next time maybe next
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time maybe next time we're gonna try to get some of the daily wire people on the show it's in the
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works uh they're not right creeper on she'd be funny yeah i need oh yeah i need to follow up because
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there's been there's been some back and forth with uh i think they're producers so i'm gonna follow
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up she loves your podcast she like she she does come like commentary on your podcast all the time i
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almost wonder if i've fallen out of favor though with some of the uh conservative outlets yeah i
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think just in general like red red pill quote-unquote red pill podcasts have kind of like a bad name
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right now probably not your podcast per se but yeah maybe that like blanket like category yeah there's
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been a lot of there's been like we there's a period in time where like everybody had everyone was
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like yeah i fuck with the whatever podcast like people like really had our back but then we like
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you know started getting a little bigger and then there's some more eyeballs on us and there's been
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like hit pieces written and in magazine like new york posted the hippies there's been a lot of youtube
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a lot of youtubers have done uh like essay type you know uh essayist type videos right um i'm trying
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i can't remember there uh hey it's good though i feel like when you're doing that you know you're
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getting a lot of you can't reach like a really high level without people criticizing you it just
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really shows you're onto the right thing here in my opinion yeah there's been a lot of criticism lately
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so i'm almost wondering the new york was it new york post new york times yeah there's a disturbing
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new habit of disturbing new trends making women look stupid it's like no honey they they formulate their
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own answers they make themselves look very stupid via the words that come out of their mouth if they
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can fix their mouth to say what they say then they can claim responsibility for it but yeah i mean vice
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new york post so well it's vice i mean what can one expect right uh mario g hey thank you man brian
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i think you got to make the topics more interesting again i thought today was kind of weird topics still
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love the show just i thought i don't know the ph shit was fucking yeah that dragged on a little bit
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yeah uh michael gutierrez hey 28 keep it up yo michael thank you so much really appreciate your
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patronage thank you man um but yeah just coming back to this one uh yeah i mean i i had some
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shit i wanted to react to but like the the thing is is uh i i don't want to like wait until the last
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hour of the show to read super chats and tts so i tried to like every 30 minutes like we got into
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the tts and super chats pretty quick and like that tends to kind of direct to the conversation a little
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bit so um sometimes you know i wasn't able like i had a couple things specific topics and we were
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going to react to three videos we weren't able to get to it there's some other people had wrote me some
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uh pre-show notes weren't able to get to that so next time next time next time yeah i almost want to
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cancel my flight and stay till tuesday oh maybe you yeah maybe maybe actually are you down do it
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i kind of i think we have space i think we have space on the tuesday show if you're down
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is the panel full actually no i we have we have space actually i think we have we have a big room
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no we we do have space for the tuesday show so okay let me see let me see let's touch base if i
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booked a refundable flight i promise you i will refund it i will i started that if it's refundable
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i will refund that pinky pinky swear it's a pinky swear uh yeah well let's touch base tomorrow and we
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can either way um but uh actually i think tonight's panel was ever because i was on a
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break for a month i think it was our best show that we've had since we came back from break so
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that's like out of seven shows i think we've done cool yeah chat what do you think yo chat um was that
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the best show since was it the best show was it the best show like not total the best the best show
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since we've been back we were gonna have uh we were gonna have rollo but i guess he can't make it
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unfortunately um you're gonna have him tonight no we were gonna have him on tuesday with mike
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oh okay i don't know i guess something happened um he so he we he was on schedule but he's he
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unfortunately wasn't able to make it um maybe next time we can have him on but um oh they like it
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yeah i think they like you like it yo wait one in the chat wait did we're oh no we already we
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already voted for you to be co-host so we got to do one in the chat for okay one in the chat should
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amy come on tuesday's show do you guys want amy on tuesday's show
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sophia i don't know i don't know about sophia why are you guys why why why okay she's been on two
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shows i don't know they're in love with her i guess um okay i'm seeing a lot of ones there all
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right i guess the the the viewers okay the people have spoken all right we have tyler here
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love you australia you're beautiful even though you didn't put me over earlier you have awesome views
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oh thank you put you over earlier what does that mean i'm so hungry oh okay all right okay guys uh
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we're gonna wrap up there thank you guys for all the uh uh here i'll keep it here whoops uh guys
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say goodbye to kiki over there she's been lonely she hasn't been at the table for a long time i never
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noticed her knees she's been sucking a lot of dick
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what okay no have they ever seen her knees because i never knew her knees one one day they will see
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the knees yeah no it's just like it's shitty rubber so okay anyways her her chastity is intact kiki
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has never been laid with okay okay okay i don't believe it but okay honestly like the idea unless
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it's like an ai sex oh my god never mind that was my thing that i was going to bring up was like
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ai relationships and like power social relationships yeah next year though my brain's melted yeah it's
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been a long show okay all right guys oh it's over six hours oh coming up on seven okay okay guys we're
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gonna wrap up oh my god okay the chat is on fire okay guys thank you for tuning in tonight very much
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appreciated hey guys let me get some let me see some oh sevens in the chat oh sevens and the chat
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guys you have to do a salute salute is that how you salute what the fuck okay hold on before you um
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guys michael sartain tuesday 7 p.m pacific we have a very good panel for you going to be a very good
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panel be sure to tune in gentlemen we have a good show anyways guys good night see you next time bye
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bye thank you brother that was like a so that was like a heil hitler you did uh start stop