DEBATE! Brian vs. Feminists! ICK List？! DELUSIONAL？! ＂Old Fashioned＂ ØF E-GIRLS？! ｜ Dating Talk 293
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On this episode of Whatever Happiful, we have a special guest on the show, and he's not here for the right reasons. He's here because he doesn't want to go out in public with us, but he's here to talk about it. We talk about a lot of things, but this is probably the most important one.
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Someone who only dates women with large labia.
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It's not a deal breaker, I guess, but I don't know.
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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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and I do social media and I trade options in the mornings. Okay. Social media and education?
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Education. Like, did you go to college or in college? I went to beauty school. Beauty school.
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What kind of beauty, I guess? To do hair, makeup, and nails, but I didn't finish. Okay. Yeah.
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Obviously I don't do that, but I do it on myself. So, yeah. So you're, you're a beauty school dropout.
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yeah there you go uh and uh let's see you said you do social media uh what kind so I monetize
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on all platforms um I also do OF um obviously right um I do really well on there though um
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why would that be obvious I don't know I just thought it would be obvious I don't know people
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online say that it's obvious right they're like oh and also I actually just started music I
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released my first single a week ago and it's doing really well on spotify everywhere so i guess i'm
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marketing it pretty well what what kind of uh it's r&b and you're a singer i'm a singer yeah you guys
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can find it on youtube or spotify do you produce the beat no um it's with my company creators inc
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okay spit a bar i'm not a rapper though so how about acapella singing yeah probably not right
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out maybe a little later are you uh a soprano um i sing pretty low like as you can tell my voice
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kind of raspy so i sing kind of lower but so would that be like baritone you're i don't know
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i don't know the specifics of it i just think there's soprano there's baritones there's uh
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what's any singers here alto yeah that's what i was right i don't know i'm just porsche sing
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like i guess deep i believe all right uh yeah baritone is a deep one uh okay and uh how long
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you've been doing OF for um so I started in like 2020 I wasn't really capitalizing on it though I
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kind of just like left it there for my Instagram people to like subscribe and stuff I wasn't really
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doing much with it but I did start taking it seriously like the middle of last year I would
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say and it does really well now so have you done any other uh like any other forms of adult content
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like stripping or I was a stripper for a long time um I think I started stripping at about 20
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and I did that for a long time alongside like other jobs though like I was a personal trainer
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um I did stuff like that and I always just try to do my social media but because I had crazy
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ex-boyfriends they would delete my stuff and that shit always just set me back obviously like I would
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hit 100k I would hit 200k and boom delete it and then they would act like they don't know what's
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going on so that but then yeah so I was stripping for a while and I stopped and now I don't know
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like if somebody will hit me up and be like oh I'm gonna give you five bands to be in the club
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like I might just show up you know something like that but it's not really my thing anymore though
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and wait you're you're 29 yeah I'm a little older huh yeah I'm 29 why you said you're a bit older
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yeah it's a secret how old I am oh no because in your notes you said you were older like I said
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obviously, I don't like people knowing too much
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well, sure, that might be fair, but why would that be
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the obvious reason. Oh, that's the obvious, the obvious reason you don't want. I don't like people
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knowing too much. It's like me saying what city I live in and stuff like that. I just don't,
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I just like to be vague. So a lot has happened in my life. Like a lot that I just like to keep my
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life as vague as possible. Even though I'm on social media, I try to still try to keep it as
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vague as possible. Yeah. I do recall. I think, uh, you get blackout drunk and shoot people or
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you get definitely did not say shoot people or guns get drawn or yeah you wrote that in your
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notes i'm pretty sure really i don't think i sent you any notes wait read it yeah i'll read it
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april 6th april 6th oh my god imagine i was drunk when i wrote that imagine that makes sense
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yeah april 6th 2026 uh you black out a lot so crazy things happen fights before straps the old
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me straps being pulled right peeing on the freeway that happened yes you peed on the freeway
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i definitely peed on the freeway all right sometimes you got to go you got to go yeah
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but the straps being pulled by you you pulled the strap i'm not gonna say that but i have been shot
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right four times um yeah it was on the news four times it was on the news and everything you can
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like pull it up i was actually on the no jumper podcast talking about it right where can i look
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this up um you can go on no jumper i'm on there um i was on ktla news how do i google this like
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So, Google, like, Portia, because my old Instagram name was Portia Fitness.
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Oh, so then that's why I was called that before.
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It doesn't mean you're, like, trying to un-life yourself.
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in alhambra where's that in sgb like san gabriel valley yeah was it who shot you um somebody
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ran did you shoot them back or what no but i don't think they're alive anymore which is crazy
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right did you send peep your no i did not do anything they're just not alive anymore
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okay was it a man or woman who shot it was a man wait have you been shot on more than one occasion
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i've been shot at at more than one occasion but actually physically hit no just once only one
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four times you've been hit so you're just dodging bullets i was just a fucking neo and the matrix
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yeah i was about to say that yeah but not saying the one time you did get hit you got hit four
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times i did he shot he let off nine rounds and then i was neo for a little bit and then i got
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hit four times were you the intended target definitely yes they knocked on my door and
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asked for my name oh they came to your house correct yes who so there were multiple assailants
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it was one guy but i feel like oh it was trans person yeah you said they you didn't know their
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pronouns so it's like oh no you know how like there's oh no sorry i don't even say all that
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like right no but you said it was i feel like somebody sent him so when i say they oh hey oh
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shit you know what i mean yeah so are you uh are you filipina no i'm japanese japanese okay why did
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you think i was filipino because i'm like 10 i feel like i'm tan am i tan well i feel like this
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might be gang related and i've heard of like there's i suppose there's japanese gangs in in
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la but i've heard there's not really no pino it's more filipino gang i was actually raised with a
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filipino gang so so it was a filipino but it had nothing to do with that though you're not filipino
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it had nothing to do with that though okay it was well so what was the i guess the reasoning or it
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could be like a possible stalker situation because again i used to be a stripper right oh shit okay
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it could have been the people i hang around it could have been yeah the career i was choosing
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at the time okay right stuff like that did you owe a trifling hoe some money definitely not they
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owed me they owed you yeah oh so they wanted to yeah get rid of the debt yeah i don't know i
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probably said too much on here we're probably gonna move on to something else yeah dang that's
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crazy uh so you went to the hospital i went to the yeah so the cops pulled up i crawled to my
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door because at the time my door had like a lock right you know the automatic ones where you put
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the code yeah so he came out and at the time my son was home right he was really young at the time
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um they asked for me my masseuse came up and she was like dude there's somebody at the door looking
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for you and i was like what the hell so i came out and at the time i went outside and i thought
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to myself like okay i don't know what's going on but i'm gonna go out like an idiot right so i went
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out it's either he comes in my house which my son's in my house so obviously i'm not gonna do
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that so i open the door and i close it behind me it locks right away um he was like oh so and so
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has something for you and i said who and he just started letting off but i saw his hand it was
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like shaking right like this like going into his jacket and I was like oh fuck right so I kind of
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like turn around and I just I was like okay there's nowhere where I can go though because I wouldn't
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have been able to get to my door in time right I couldn't hop my thing because it was super high
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I'm hella short I'm 411 and yeah he just let off and then he dipped I crawled into my house I like
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put the code crawled and I just yelled upstairs because my house was a three-story house and I
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was like yo call 9-1-1 I just got hit and so crawled in the cops came my homegirl came down
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was like putting pressure up wherever she thought I got hit on which honestly I didn't even know at
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the time because I don't know if any of you guys been shot but it burns and you don't know where
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it's at right the cops came they searched the whole crib and then from there um they're like
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okay clear and then they let the ambulance in and I just feel like that was insane because I could
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have probably died in the time that they're searching my house um and then yeah I got put
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in the ambulance. The EMT fell on top of me. I passed out cause we cut a corner and then
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I didn't wake up for, I think like almost more than 24, 24 hours, a little bit more
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than that. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. And you were shot in the stomach or in the back, the
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stomach, and then twice in my thigh. Damn. Do you carry, do you own firearms? I do. Yes.
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Okay. Why were you able to, were you armed at the time? At the time? No, because they
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we're not yeah yeah all right uh what about you all right so hi my name is china i'm 29 years old
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i'm from montreal canada um school why i act and model and uh yeah i have a bachelor degree in
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education and a master's in translation uh from what university university of sherbrooke
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And you said, so you have a bachelor's in comm?
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so from zero to four I spoke English and then we moved here
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so then I was kind of speaking more French
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but I went to English school, then French school, vice versa
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and your bio father is a famous hockey player in Canada
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or a hockey player, I'm not too familiar with hockey
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butt and uh okay do you play hockey I do not my brothers do though brothers do okay uh when did
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you graduate from with your master's degree uh 2023 okay so pretty recently yeah and that was
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in translation yeah just French English yeah okay interesting what are some of the like aside from
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being like for example um say you were just studying English or well I guess if you're
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studying English or the French language, you're typically, it's not so much speaking it, but
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if you're studying English, you're, you're like studying famous works of, uh, of English, for
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example, famous books, et cetera, writing. Uh, but so translation to get a specific degree in that,
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what are some of the components of the educate like being educated in translation
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i mean well it was mostly like professional translation so either like business related
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or we would kind of like specify in some kind of uh like whatever we liked and wanted to do so
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um for instance i translated a book that was in french into english but i'm just wondering what
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is the knowledge that they're imparting on you as part of an education specifically in translation
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because i assume if you're say you're already fluent in both languages uh aside from actually
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learning the language which it doesn't sound like they don't they don't teach you the language
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so what specifically would they like what are they teaching you about translation that warrants
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a master's degree um so mostly what we're learning is like uh there are some literal
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translations but then each language has their like own slangs or right yeah stuff like that so i'd
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say yeah okay all right so is there like a translation 212 class or something like that
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like there are some translation classes but there's some english lit there's um like it's
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a bit of like history about the certain philosophies and stuff like that
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okay nothing crazy got it all right what about you hello uh my name is tatum love
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i am a full service sex worker at sherry's ranch which is a legal brothel one hour outside of
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Vegas. In two weeks, I am graduating from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas with a bachelor's
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degree. And, oh, I'm 30 years old, and I do have an OnlyFans. All right. All right. And what are
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you studying again? Sorry, I might have missed that. I'm getting my degree in interdisciplinary
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studies. So I have three areas of study in anthropology and sociology and women's studies.
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But within those categories, I'm taking mostly classes on sex works, history of sexuality and marriage and family.
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All right. And you used to be a stripper. Is that correct?
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Or dancer. Do you guys do strippers dislike stripper?
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No, it's not rude. It's just now you say dancer.
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I guess it's just what kind of person you're talking to.
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Like for example, if you're a background dancer.
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I guess, yeah, you just have to specify, you know what I mean?
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Well, I guess ballet, you would say ballet dancer.
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You're really showing your opinion on strippers right now.
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Like, exotic dancer, I don't even understand why exotic.
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Be an exotic dancer because you have that exotic look.
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Exotic refers to something strikingly unusual, foreign, or from a faraway place, often characterized
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It typically describes things not native to a particular environment.
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uh such well okay so i guess that would make sense if it's exotic dancer because you don't
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really see them in the wild so it's something that you go to see almost like a show you know
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what i mean does that make sense i suppose i wonder like yeah well okay so you used to dance
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you are a courtesan uh have you done any other forms of sex work like escorting or prostitution
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I guess perhaps I should rephrase any street prostitution.
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And escorting outside of the ranch, it's called?
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one of the regions of nevada where it is legal to have brothels uh and you said you've been
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doing that for how long for almost three years three years okay how many uh clients do you think
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you've seen um a few hundred probably do you think over a thousand or no but a few hundred i'm more
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low volume more repeat you have repeat customers okay yeah per week how many sessions would you
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say you do um it's a lot different from when i first started i when i first started i i had
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a lot more um but now i maybe have like two to three really long sessions a week when you say
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really long what do you mean like anywhere from like five to nine hours yeah oh wow or multiple
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days sometimes you'll do like day-long hangouts and so how does it work what's the calculation
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is it like a flat rate hourly rate everything is negotiated like by the client it's every
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situation is really unique so I don't have like flat rates for anything sure I well I suppose
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Oh my gosh, it's totally not legal to discuss that.
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No, it's considered solicitation to advertise my prices.
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I don't think it would be, I think discussing it on a podcast where you discuss these things,
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not you but a friend of yours okay who works wait hold on a friend of yours who works at a
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competing brothel that offers the same level of service that your brothel offers with the same
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sort of clientele with the same you know offerings etc and it's your identical twin who works there
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speaking of how much does she your identical twin how much does she typically charge okay
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A simple Reddit search will have lots of people talking about the prices there, but I personally don't talk about what I charge.
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No, no, no, not what you charge, but in a hypothetical scenario.
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I don't want to get into it, but it is something people save up for.
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Well, then, like for other people that you're aware of, would you say that the hourly rate is in the hundreds or thousands?
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in the in the thousands damn fucking inflation man fucking this war in iran's fucking us up
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prostitution prices through the roof need some iranian pussy in here okay just kidding uh relax
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all right why would that be how would that be racist what the fuck
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okay all right so uh and uh okay you can't talk about money how about this though um are the rates
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the same across women can you answer that or do we all set our own prices okay yeah uh and then
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do you guys offer coupons obviously not no coupons no no some i think some women do have certain
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uh communities that they support i know some women offer military military yeah police fire
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no no like if 65 plus no like retirees because do you guys go to retirement homes ever that'd be a
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good you know no they people they have to come there i see okay you don't do alcohol that's
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illegal yeah oh okay what so as far as like the coupons or discounts is there ever a buy one bang
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one free no not for me personally buy two bang one free you'll have to ask the individual lady
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you guys should start i think offering that maybe you guys need to hire me as your marketing okay
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advertising you seem good at it so yeah we get some coupons out there buy two bang one free i
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guess i don't know okay that's cool um and i'm sure we'll get into some of the more like s work
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related stuff as it relates to dating a little later on what about you um hi my name is milana
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i'm 24 and i live in charlotte near montreal but i come from france you're born in france
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yeah from france yeah i was born in france when did you move to canada like two three years ago
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okay uh and uh i came here to study first i did a master in chemistry okay and then i i'm right now
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a phd student in electrical engineering okay phd student yeah uh electrical engineering so what
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what's the next step after you graduate um i still have two years to run and then i would
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love to work in um in a firm like a private firm and do chips for the telephone things like that
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okay research gotcha uh and uh okay you're from france do you have a job currently or just
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student it's my job oh that is i'm paid to study oh you're paid to study okay
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and then uh are you just temporarily in canada or uh i think i don't want to go back in france
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after but i'm not necessarily have to stay here in canada so i will see any idea of where you
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might end up? No, we'll see the opportunities. Okay. So you don't want to go back to France?
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Not necessarily. Why is that? Because I've lived there. Now I want to explore and do other things.
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Yeah. Where in France are you from? Where? Wait, let me see if I can do it in French. Hold on.
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Oh, yeah. Thanks. Oh, man. I, okay. Hold on. Let me.
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She also dances, but she's not a stripper dancer.
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And you're a professional dancer or just for fun?
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I took classes, and now it's just on myself, and I will enjoy the rest of my life.
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All right, plie, first ever on the Whatever Podcast.
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all right i give it as a professional ballet connoisseur it was like a b minus i think
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you know the depth yeah i noticed you have a bandage on your arm did you what's that
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oh nothing i get uh piquet the jab you got a vaccine no an insect oh insect yeah and i don't
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want to scratch it so i put something on gotcha okay all right uh what about you uh i'm brooke
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lebedew i'm 28 and i'm from middleborough massachusetts um and i am a cna i do senior
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home care okay and i used to do only fans but i don't anymore all right so i just do cna uh
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education um i went to i didn't go to college but i went to a technical technical school that's how
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I got my CNA license. Got it. Okay. All right. What about you? My name is Taylor. I'm 31. I live
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in Los Angeles. I work as an administrative director remotely. I do comedy content creation
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and I have a PhD in international relations. When did you get your PhD? In 2025. 2025. So
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pretty recently in international relations. So when, I guess what, a year ago you graduated or
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typically in june people graduate or yeah i graduated it was probably a year ago like april
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about a year ago okay is it still fresh in your mind what you learned i guess hardly the thing
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about phds is you learn the first two years and then the rest is research very specific research
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so you wrote a dissertation yes okay uh how long was your dissertation like pages pages yeah i don't
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remember it was double spaced times new roman yeah okay and uh let's see uh international
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relations yes well it must be given that it's a you didn't just get a bachelor's degree you got
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a master's degree and a wait do you skip you go master's then you get your phd or do you just
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skip the master's and go straight to the phd it depends on the student some people do a bachelor's
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and then go straight to a PhD, when the first two years is technically a master's, you can graduate
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out with a master's. I did a bachelor's, a master's in something different, and then I got a PhD
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separately. Oh, what did you get your bachelor's and master's in? Russian studies. A little closer
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to the mic? In Russian studies. Russian studies. Are you Russian? No. Why Russian studies? I just
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really liked foreign languages, and I studied a few, and by the time I went to college, I decided
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Russian sounded interesting, and when else would I study Russian? Okay, so when you say Russian
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studies, this is language, not like the study of Russia. It was the study of Russia, and language
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was the component of it. Okay, so are you fluent in Russian? Not fluent, but you can speak it? To
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an extent. Conversationally, or? Not a great conversation, but sure. Okay, all right, and I
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I mean, I guess what spurred on your interest in Russia?
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So I studied Spanish and French a little bit, and then also Chinese.
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And I was thinking for college, I'll either do Arabic or Russian.
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And I decided Russian because I thought I could get a better grasp of it.
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And I didn't think I'd be very comfortable in the Middle East because I don't like hot weather.
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Can people travel to Russia at the moment or no?
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I mean, it's not good to travel there when it's at war right now, but I went before the war.
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Well, okay, so you just graduated in 2025 with your Ph.D. in international relations.
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I do. So I do administration remotely. So at some point during my PhD, I realized I don't have
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strong career goals. So I'm just kind of going with whatever. Since it is pretty recent that
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you got your PhD, can you relate to us maybe one or two things, big takeaways that you learned
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in international relations? Yeah. So power is really important. Who has it? Most things
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are a power struggle that's not my opinion it's the realist school of thought which is just one
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theory of basically essentially how the world works okay anything else like like some sort of
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academic takeaway from what you learned in international relations an academic takeaway
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and what's well i suppose like something infer like something material that you learned in the
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class? Like, I'm unsure, like, like a fact? Well, I mean, you have a PhD in international
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relations. Just, I, if you were to teach somebody perhaps an advanced concept of international
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relationship, or international relations, excuse me, I'm assuming you would, given you have a PhD
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in the field in the discipline you'd be able to con uh elucidate something that you like i don't
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have a phd in international relationships so i'm curious to know can you articulate something that
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you learned uh how to set up a research study like getting a unit of analysis and how to set up
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uh research in a way where you are actually getting to the root of the question i guess
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well is it wouldn't that be something sort of basic to any sort of discipline that would be
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reliant on statistics or any anything related to research um i mean the first thing you mentioned
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was power being very important i mean a five-year-old could tell you that uh five-year-olds
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infants children engage in power dynamics even with their own parents and they're often very
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manipulative uh children have a manipulative sense of how to you know if they cry or they
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whine they maybe often get what they want so i guess what i'm asking you though is to have a
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can i ask uh did you have um scholarships or did you pay for the uh it was paid for by
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the university oh so you had scholarships no i'm like she said um a lot of phd programs are
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fully funded and you get paid a salary okay um well i mean you must have some expenses that you
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put towards college perhaps your undergrad uh i mostly had scholarships yes where did you go to
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school my undergrad at miami university in ohio okay and uh post grad or grad school i guess
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grad so i got my phd at northeastern that's a pretty good school right yeah northeastern i
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It's not really something that comes up, I think.
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It is a private nonprofit research university, Boston, Massachusetts.
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But I mean, I would imagine speaking to somebody who holds a Ph.D. degree that they would have like, you know, perhaps they're not like top in their field in the subject, but they have like a depth of knowledge that could be perhaps articulated or shared.
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So I guess I'm looking for power is very important.
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So this is a funny question because I feel like when you're in this level of schooling,
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you really aren't going to get a one-sentence thing that's compelling.
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One thing I think that was interesting that I learned is that when you look at world leaders across the board,
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more of them have something called one of these dark triad traits which is uh machiavellianism
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which is like manipulation what are what are the other components of dark triad uh narcissism and
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psychopathy okay and so these traits are more prevalent in people who rise to the top through
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a process of competition into and elimination until they're at the top of their field well dear
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I must tell you, as somebody who dropped out of community college, I've been aware of what the dark triad for many years without the need to get a Ph.D. degree.
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So that's is that what the universities you get a you spend nearly a decade in university and you get a Ph.D.
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and power is important dark triad and how to do a research study it seems like college might be a
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bit of a scam if you ask me but perhaps I'm wrong research is a process and when I'm just throwing
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things out there it's really just me throwing things out there so please don't take that as
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a reflection of university well i guess it's like okay uh in this case you went to a private
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university although i assume they still take on some tax subsidies but i am always to some degree
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tickled by uh and of course it depends on the discipline she does electrical engineering that's
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a very you know that's a hard science to a degree it's uh or you look at math and you look at physics
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or biology. These are hard sciences, but when you get into international relationships,
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I mean, I don't even know if that's categorized as a soft science. That might be more of a liberal
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art. But what was the title of your PhD? Of my PhD? The title, excuse me, my mistake.
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Research. The title of your dissertation. I'm not going to say, because I don't want it to be
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searched i don't want it i don't want the record to live here okay i mean that's fine for privacy
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reasons you do know the title of it though i do you haven't like forgotten it okay all right well
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anybody want to weigh in on the college thing i don't think scam is trade school all the way
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that's why i never went that's why i went to tech school i think that's awesome i genuinely think
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any sort of post-secondary education is good yeah well you're in college right college rocks
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what you said you're about to graduate yeah what are may 16th okay very soon so you're fresh in
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classes yeah yeah i've been how many classes do you take right now four online or in person
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they're all online because i do work what are the four classes you take i am taking my
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interdisciplinary capstone class where i'm writing my okay just what are the titles yes um
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math oh oh oh oh uh ethnicity and identity class it's like an upper level that's that's the name
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of it it's no there's a long it's a it's an anthropology okay anthro it's identity and what
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uh ethnicities and identities so it's okay what's the other two okay okay these are just like this
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class i saved for last because they're like a little easier the anthropology of cats and dogs
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and human dynamics and their relationships to cats and dogs and other uh animals and um
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oh my god oh my god oh my god this is putting me on the spot i'm a little anxious um but i do have
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two other classes oh my god you have two other classes yeah well four in total sociology of aging
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so sociology of aging okay what's the other and then um oh my gosh sociology of wait the
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sociology of aging yeah sociology of aging right okay what's the other one wait wait what's the
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other one what's the other one uh i'm trying to do it for my um oh my god you'll have to get back
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to me my brain's going blank you have four classes and you don't remember the title of your classes
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you're catching me wait can i just ask something about that okay so all the classes that you just
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named like obviously i know nothing about that because i don't know what the fuck that was but
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i'm just confused like okay so all those classes that you're taking um like what is that gonna be
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like what is that for like what are you aiming to be like studying those things like i guess i'm
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just confused like because you're taking those classes like what's your ultimate goal because
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like obviously like she's training to be that so i know what she's about to be but then like you
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train you're studying that i just i'm kind of confused are you going to school to be a sex
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worker i'm not yeah well i'm writing my senior capstone on the importance of sex workers telling
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our own stories i am an anthropologist um and what's an anthropologist someone who observes
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okay uh so so then that's what you're studying to be then an anthropologist and a sex worker
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well yeah like ultimately that's your goal are awesome yeah oh no no definitely girl i'm not
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putting them down at all like good for you like i'm actually so proud of you coming on here and
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telling the world that you do that like good for you but no I was just kind of confused because
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like you're studying like dogs and cats and stuff like that and so I'm just like why waste all this
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time doing all that when if it's not gonna get anywhere do you know what I mean not a waste of
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time I think a big reason I was even able to come on this podcast and like answer all the essay
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questions was because college gave me the ability to problem solve and realize that I'm quite a good
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writer um so thank you very much college so wait what was the last class oh i'm trying
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okay there's anthro identity uh ethnicities cats dogs and then sociology of aging what's the last
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one uh sociology of sexuality sociology of sexuality okay uh from your sociology when
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When was the last time you had your Soch of Aging class?
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No, there's lots of papers and discussions due every week.
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Okay, have you recently written an essay or anything?
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let tell me one thing from your sociology of aging class that you could uh communicate to us
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all right I'm glad you asked so in one reading we read um in the past few weeks um it was about
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oh my god I feel like I'm gonna bore you guys are you got give me the 10 seconds okay okay well
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you'll love this because it's about france all right i'm gonna love this okay um so a group of
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researchers in france found this boy who was just living in the woods by himself this was in the
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1800s and they he had been like abandoned by his family and he um just was rather feral and he
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was like he couldn't hear people calling for him because his ears were accustomed to hearing sounds
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that mattered to him like he could hear a walnut crack like like 100 feet away but he couldn't
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hear people like yelling at him so the point of that is to say that our brains adapt to what we
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it's like in our brains are environmentally adaptable and that's also why
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we are not in gestation as long as other animals meaning like we're born and we don't know how to
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walk already that's because our brains as humans need time to develop to our
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our environment rather than like a horse that gets born and walks immediately if that makes
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sense. I can expand on that. I don't want to like bore you guys though. I could like talk about that
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for like 30 minutes. I mean, I'm familiar with the case and there's actually probably a few
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examples of these sort of feral, I think they're referred to as like feral children where they're
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like essentially almost abandoned basically. And sometimes even like animals will take care of them
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in some odd sort of way but um i as like a as a sociological concept or principle yeah you
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providing an example of something that relates to sociology i guess i'm more so looking like
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from a principle perspective oh a principle is that art so we adapt to our environment okay
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well i dropped out of college i could tell you that oh well good for you yeah i couldn't
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okay maybe i mean that story was basically just about like what selective hearing because like
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my kids do that right all right kids do that i'll be like take the trash out i didn't hear you
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hey there's food you know i mean and then they'll hear that right are you arguing is that what you
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meant though oh no no i was just saying is that what you meant about that kid like adapting to
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his environment he just basically has selective hearing okay well okay well yeah okay so sociology
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of aging um the feral boy or whatever uh anthropology of identity and ethnicities
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what's just like one quick takeaway from that that you could relate to us um well i just wrote a
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paper on my own identities and how they've shifted over the last like 10 years definitely super
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personal don't want to get into it but it was really powerful i got an a plus well so good job
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I'm looking for, like, I don't know, if you were taking a physics class, you might, for example, be able to, I mean, this is very elementary, but you might be able to relate to me some, like, a principle of Newton, for example.
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So, but when you say, I wrote a paper about my identity, and I got an A on it, I'm looking for a principle of the anthropology of identity and ethnicities, a principle that you can relate to me.
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So, maybe it would be helpful to understand that I chose this major because creative writing was not an option for online students.
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I don't need the reason why you chose the thing.
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I'm just looking for a principle of the anthropology of identity and ethnicities.
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No, but partially why anthropology is, why I'm doing it is to be a better writer.
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So, I don't need the reasons for why you're taking the class.
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I'm simply you've been taking the class you've been studying it you've been going to college
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you're about to graduate in two weeks with a bachelor's degree from a university I would hope
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the university is doing its due diligence in properly educating you so as to confer you with
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a diploma that would indicate to a employer that you have a degree of understanding over the subject
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in which you are studying thus I'm asking once again what is the principle or concept that you
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learned about from the class anthropology of identity and ethnicities that we I mean from
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that particular class just one thing our our identities are a combination of how we were raised
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I Heard the Concept, Nurture and Nature, and how that, so you're saying it shapes the identity,
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nurture and nature. That's, I, I really enjoy creative writing, that is why I'm doing it,
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and. What does creative writing have to do with identity and ethnicities? Because I write about
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my identity as a sex worker. But I mean, if the title of the class includes identity and ethnicities,
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perhaps you well i wrote about my background in being white you wrote about your background
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congratulations white supremacists do that all the time congratulations no no oh my god i'm still
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confused why you're getting a college degree if you want to be a sex worker oh okay well i mean
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to defend her i don't think that they're uh i assume you want to do some sort of career beyond
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yes sex work or maybe open your own brothel no oh no i think the point is that she's
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she has a way of expressing herself without feeling thank you um all right uh she has a
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wait sorry repeat that she has a way of i think like i think the point of her going to college
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way, and that's why she was saying that she wanted to take creative
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it so that she can be honest and open to people,
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do you go to public school or private school the university of nevada las vegas is a public
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university taxpayer funded i mean i'm assuming i got do you have scholarships or are you paying
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for it both okay um so look you said that she's going to school to learn how to express herself
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right like in a writing fuck the taxpayer should not be paying for that that taxpayers i don't
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think are paying for it's you go to a public school it's taxpayer subsidized adult learner
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scholarship no i understand you might have some scholarships well i mean that would be
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depending on the source of the scholarship it would to be it would be to a degree uh taxpayer
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subsidized taxpayers should not be subsidizing i want to learn how to express myself
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okay agree to disagree that's not the purpose okay college college ought to be now look uh i
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I think college perhaps has gone through transformation in the past 10, 20, 30, 40 years where instead of it being an institution for like genuine academic achievement in education, it and not all disciplines.
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Some of the disciplines, the hard sciences, those are still valid.
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However, the liberal arts, the soft sciences, these are very much adult daycare centers.
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It's why you find so many people are unhirable after they get a diploma from a four-year university, after they've taken on a substantial amount of college debt.
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They have bloated administrations where there's all these, okay, they're putting on concerts at fucking university.
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they're they're doing all these there's like different centers and all this bullshit in
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universities massively bloated just a waste of taxpayer money and I think we see the fruits of
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that I agree that there are excess costs at universities but I don't know how it could be
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an adult daycare when I am a fully online student and I'm working from the brothel
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well I mean obviously there's in-person classes so yeah there's online class offerings
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but there are in-person classes and I would say even if even if you reject the categorization of
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it as being adult daycare I would perhaps frame it better like this university is for is so that
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you can have somebody else read to you that's university how are they reading to me that's
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literally university I'm doing especially now with like you have AI and all this these sorts
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of things but for the past 20 years you've had all the knowledge possible at your fingertips
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on the computer via the internet now there might be some applications again if you're taking certain
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classes where there's like actually lab work and you're dealing with like i don't know if you're
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in chemistry and you have to do actual lab work that's different right but like soft sciences
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liberal arts it's it's all on the internet well also yeah okay uh also i'm i find now that with
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ai uh i have someone in my family who who teaches every single student is using ai to write the
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papers so there's a lack of from the students themselves look obviously the students want the
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good grade they want to just breeze through it they want the diploma they want the grade whatever
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But I think there ought to be, if you are going to spend this time and money on university, especially if it's taxpayer subsidized, I think there should be a genuine educational and academic internal motivation and like a curiosity within the student to want to actually learn the material at a deeper level than just, I'm just trying to get the grade.
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I'm just going to put this through AI, but I do have someone very close to me who's a professor
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at a major university on the East Coast, and yeah, they told me every single one of my students
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uses AI for the assignments, so it's just like we may, of course, might have to reassess the value
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of education if everything's just being done by AI. Brian, can I comment? Sure. Okay, so I also work
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And I will say that university is more than just reciting facts.
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It's also a process of understanding how to do research.
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And I have edited essays from students freshman year
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and senior year, and the writing is so different
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then I don't think that's a strong understanding of what university is.
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I agree that university has a lot of problems and inefficiencies.
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However, I think it has a lot of value as well.
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And I don't think it's for everyone, and I don't think it's necessary for everyone,
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but I do think it has value for those who want to pursue it.
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Yeah, I mean, I think that's a misrepresentation of my position.
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I never said that university is just about rote fact memorization.
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which question can you say one thing about whatever well i don't think it would be pure
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well hold on i think it's actually i'm i'm looking for something actually beyond memorization
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when i ask that question so i think uh you know you might you might be able to just like you know
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memorize a fact which i think she was alluding to by you know this case of the child who was
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abandoned or something and taken care of by animals. But I'm looking for like a deeper level
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understanding, a conceptual understanding, which transcends fact memorization. So when I ask,
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if I'm asking, convey to me conceptually, what is the depth of what you've learned?
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That's not a fact finding. I'm not searching for fact. I'm searching for your, your depth,
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your level of depth and understanding of the subject matter in question. So, I mean, I don't
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understand. So is university just for like bumping up and developing some base, like sort of a base
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level of uh of what exactly yeah so i think university is many things as you know in our
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society we do put a value on the degree itself so that is of course one inescapable element of it
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it also it is also going deeper and also broader into your area of interest which is another
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component it's also a process of understanding how to communicate better and research better
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to the level where it's like, how can I believe
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baseline and then there can be like additional things beyond that so when you're saying well
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you should be able to think critically and examine statements and be able to decipher
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whether the truth of a statement to me that seems like it would be a baseline a very baseline thing
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but when there's specific disciplines like international relations or anthropology or
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sociology you shouldn't just tell me well I took anthropology and sociology and international
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relations so i can i can think critically i mean i that should be a correspondent i guess a
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concurrent part of it but there should you should be able to conceptually tell me about the specific
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discipline anthropology sociology international relationships not just the fact and it may very
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well be the case that through university you have cultivated the ability to think critically that
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might be the case but i'm asking conceptually the subject matter in question what did you learn
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okay well i'm not going to linger on this too long but i will tell you this if i was dictator
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i'm getting rid of 80 percent of uh educational disciplines uh math the stem fields can stay
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I don't think taxpayers should be teaching students
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if you want to study privately we're not going to
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know some other bullshit sociology kind of bullshit anthropology kind of bullshit yeah gone you can
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study privately if a private university wants to offer it fine taxpayer nope you can go into stem
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that's pretty much it can i add something on that like baseline sure um i've dated guys that went to
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college university or whatnot and others who have not and i feel like there's more guys that have
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that baseline when they went to college or university versus when they did not from experience
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yeah i do recall in your notes you said that it gives you the ick yeah if a guy doesn't have
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a college education not always but i yeah okay just because of that baseline that is lacking
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yeah yeah well i mean i think uh there may be there may be a distinction here between like
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correlation and causality, but my philosophy on this is that you should never let
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you should never let academia get in the way of your education, and so this idea that
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you wouldn't date a guy because he didn't get a university degree.
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It's more so if you just stopped after high school kind of thing.
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I'm like sure yeah yeah stops after high school yeah well your dad what's his level of education
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as a hockey player he went to high school and then he did some college in communication
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some college in communication yeah uh okay would you be upset is your dad's dating or is he single
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he passed away oh yeah sorry to hear that well didn't know yeah no worries uh okay but uh he
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He probably, and I think he'd admit it too, to some degree, sometimes will act on that baseline.
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Yeah, but he's in Canada and a hockey player, so probably didn't stop him.
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Sure. I'm also Taylor. I'm 25. I'm from New Jersey.
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um i graduated from ruckers criminal justice and history and i'm a bartender when did you graduate
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2023 okay you know what i'm gonna ask yeah uh one one thing that you learned
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um and what subject well you said criminal justice in history yeah let's do criminal
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justice one concept um concept i did most of my studies in um like uh juvenile gangs
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so i would say one concept is that uh the law is i shouldn't say the law but i guess um
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specific environments are really not in favor of
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how people are raised if that makes sense so if you like low socioeconomic
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you're a product of your environment basically and the every everything is not there to help you
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so product of your environment yeah so is this like a justification for criminality absolutely
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not i was not there to condone i was there to understand okay yeah but is there like
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a greater understanding or more leeway given to those who commit crimes no come from a lower
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socioeconomic no i wouldn't say um a pass i would say that there's more understanding of course but
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I still don't think it's right but I understand that it happens because I'm not you know an
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imbecile to what happens around us even if that's not what you currently are going through
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you know and it's not fair to me to judge someone if I don't understand or know what
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that environment is like because that's not how I live that's not how I grew up
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wait it's not fair to judge someone if you don't understand
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where they're coming from yeah i can you know i think if somebody commits a crime especially
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one that is the more objectionable it is frankly i don't give a fuck what their background is
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uh if they've committed a crime that is abhorrent
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they did so willfully i don't care what their background is truth be told
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13 that are joining gangs what I don't I've never been in gang I've never grew up around gang so
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to me my interest is what would make someone as young as 10 join a gang what would be the
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reasoning of that like I said while I don't condone it I think my main reasoning was because I'm you
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know one to go into the police force so it gives you a sense of why and how I don't want to be a
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cop to judge people I want to be a cop to help people but how can I help someone if I don't
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understand where they're coming from well of course i think our mission should be to help
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people but uh and i think like there's nothing wrong with as a course of study trying to gain
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an understanding of why it is people get involved in gangs or why they commit crimes or whatever it
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may be but i don't think from a moral perspective we owe people who do commit crimes some greater
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form of understanding because of their background. I think, look, that's not to say that, hey,
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there are people who have difficult upbringings. There are people who live in poverty. There are
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people who are surrounded with bad influences, and that's worth addressing. But I don't know
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if I would frame it like, okay, I wouldn't judge somebody who's committed a crime because I'm not
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familiar with their their specific circumstances i would just say uh i don't know i don't think
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being in a gang is necessarily considered a crime though there's people in gangs that don't commit
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crimes um sometimes that's just how it is well yeah i i suppose you could be i don't actually
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know legally if there might actually be a some sort of if you're gang affiliated even that could
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get you in trouble but not if you don't have any priors you could be in a gang but you they're not
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gonna arrest you for just being in a gang but i'm not sure if that's really my central argument here
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i would say though typically like uh the purpose of a gang is not to work in soup kitchens and do
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charity service uh being in the gang usually involves criminal activity i mean not necessarily
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i can give you an example if that makes you feel better yeah right ms 13 is okay well you're gonna
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to go to the extreme right yeah tell me so other reasons gangs gangs are known for their charitable
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work and not their criminal activity oh i never said charitable work no that's not what i said
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hold on that's the association if you're in a gang you're committing crimes not but not everybody
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some are just a brotherhood some are just a family some are just for protection from other people
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you know what i mean it's not always like hey guys now that we're a gang we're gonna go shoot
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people like that's not right i know what you just brought up ms 13 like yeah duh you know i mean but
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but they're not always a crazy thing and also i mean i don't know do you know anybody from a gang
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yeah and then those people what commit crimes oh i i know uh i i don't like personally like on a
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personal level not know of so okay hold on okay currently i'm not friends with anyone who is
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actively in a game however i knew somebody who did 10 years in prison uh i've actually had them
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on the show a long, long time ago, and yes, he was in a gang.
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He's out of that life now, but this idea that – I don't understand this.
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Like, are they – they're Boy Scouts, the gang members.
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Look, I mean, people join gangs for various reasons.
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Look, I'm going to go ahead and grant that people join.
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Sometimes people are looking for belonging, and maybe they don't have strong male figures.
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And maybe it's just they're living in a geographical region.
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Maybe their neighborhood is just predominantly filled with gang members, and that's who they're around and who they're exposed to.
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I'm going to go ahead and grant all those things.
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However, you're not going to be able to make a very convincing argument that when we're referring to gangs, that this is typically not a criminal organization.
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And I'm also pretty sure that in order to get initiated into a gang, you have to do something illegal.
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Yeah, when you get jumped into a gang, you have to help the elderly lady cross the street.
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that's what gangs are known for is is you know just doing acts of charity and this is this is
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you're just saying like completely random things like obviously that's not true whether it involves
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like stealing like robbing people no i mean i just got jumped in are this shooting i didn't
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shoot anybody i just got jumped in not all gangs are the same okay this wasn't a debate about me
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defending gangs at all it was just saying i don't even know how it came up but because i said that
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I went to college for criminal justice and history.
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I said that I focused a lot on juveniles in gangs.
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And there was, I mean, I was in university for five years.
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Obviously, I didn't study juvenile gangs for five years.
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But that is a class that was repeat for me because I was constantly piqued in the interest of gangs.
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However, you know, there were more aspects to criminal justice that I learned.
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But I think that my main interest was that while I was in university, there is a lot
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And when you, when you start to understand, it's just one, one thing that's like, it's
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West side story where they're fucking dancing and shit.
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Like, that's not, that's not what a gang is.
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Like, look, I understand if you want to do this thing where we're going to be like, well,
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some members are like affiliates or associates of the gang, but they haven't actually participated
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in any criminal behavior, I'm actually going to agree with you. Of course, there's probably
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associates or affiliates of gangs who haven't actively participated in any criminal activity.
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However, I would argue like the leadership or the central membership of the gang or purpose
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of the gang has some degree of criminality uh there's a criminality component to it i mean
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that's that is a gang i agree with you i agree that's a gang anyways let me move it on um okay
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what about you a uh introduction please hello i'm brooke i'm 41 i'm from the inland empire
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and i'm a server and i have two kids all right any college education no okay all right great
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So we're going to get everybody's relationship status.
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So going around the table, tell us your relationship status.
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And if you're in a relationship, how long you've been in the relationship?
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Because I'm able to focus completely on what I want to do without an insecure man in my ear 24-7.
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I feel like if I obsess over you cheating, it's probably going to happen.
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I've been single for, since February, or no, March of 2023.
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Your first or your oldest child, how long was the relationship with the man there?
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So they were like, if you're having this baby, you're getting married.
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Are your parents from Japan or were they like from the United States or born in the U.S.?
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My real mother, she passed away when I was younger, but she was born, I think in like Monterey Park.
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My stepmom right now, though, she's actually the one who taught me how to speak Japanese because she didn't speak any English.
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And the length, sorry, I might have missed this, the length of the relationship with the second father?
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Was pretty short, maybe like a year and a half, two years.
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Okay. And then how soon into the relationship did you get pregnant?
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Like, uh, like less than, less than six months, I would say.
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I was young and just wilding, you know what I mean? Like, and I don't, I don't know.
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Wait, hold on. You said your kid is how old again?
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Okay. Well now we're going to go into the age, right? I mean, honestly, I don't care. I'm 35,
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right? So yeah. So I'm 35. I was 17 when I got pregnant.
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okay 17 when you're pregnant and but i had her at 18 had her at 18 okay and she's wait sorry 17
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or 19 17 17 okay not 18 have you told her like don't get pregnant well you know she's actually
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gay so she's yeah wait bye or no she she's like a boy she's a full-on boy now yeah not trans or
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okay see that's where like i get all mixed up because you know before back in the day would
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be like oh she's a dyke which is like a girl who dresses like a man right in i don't know i don't
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know the politically correct terms now she tries to teach me and i'm trying to be as politically
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correct as i can but um i guess she's considered a mask uh or something what's her pronouns he
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now okay now yeah she just non wait is she so is she trans or non-binary i don't know you don't
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know your own daughter i don't know the terminology what i do know is she would like to be addressed
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as a male now does she have a different name like did she change her name yes to a male name
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okay so what is that considered what uh well i'm not sure because you said she's mask so you could
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be like i guess feminine mask or whatever but she's lesbian but she goes wait so hold on but
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she goes by he now so originally she had went by still her birth name right and we would call her
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her and everything and now she goes by oh no like mom i want to be addressed as a different name and
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i was like oh okay cool when did she transition um so that's what you call that transition see
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before a transition to me was getting like your body parts change but now teenagers are saying
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like oh i transitioned oh how just by saying that and i'm like oh okay so well did she change her
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appearance at all or yeah yeah so when she first came back to me from living at her dad's she was
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like i want to chop my hair off i'm like okay go ahead she's like yeah i'm gay i'm like fire
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that's cool do what you want to do i will fully support you so we cut her hair off she still was
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going by her birth name though you know she was saying i'm gay i like girls you know this and
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that i'm like okay cool but now that she's a boy they're saying that it's technically not
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gay because she's a boy who likes girls now does that make sense i mean in a very peculiar sort of
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way yes yeah i don't get too much into it i love her so you have split custody no i have full
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custody of both my kids oh okay because you said she was at her dad's before yeah and then some
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stuff happened yeah okay um what does the dad think of the transition is he on board with it
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no he doesn't like it so she doesn't live go to see him anymore they're cool but they're cool yeah
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they're cool okay uh and you said you were married once to him yeah have you been married other times
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i've been proposed to but no how long were you married very short did he pay you alimony
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no no uh does he pay you i think we annulled it i think if yeah it's so long ago though does he
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pay you child support he never has up until recently um where i asked it's not on paper
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but i was like hey you want to shoot a couple hundred you know i mean sure yeah i'm obviously
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doing financially better than both of them but i just feel like it's just not fair you know what
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mean like you should be contributing I mean okay so it's not like through the court system no I
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don't do all that you help out with yeah like hey here and there and it actually was very recent
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like almost three months ago that I really started asking both of them for anything oh okay so and
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you said one is 17 and one is 11 yeah okay okay got it uh and then you're I'm your younger daughter
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I'm assuming she's like my son oh sorry your son excuse me he's not trans or anything no he's he's
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just the boy and the so okay your daughter well i guess now your son right to be correct yeah right
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yeah to be is he she taking puberty blockers or oh i'm not about to talk about my kids stuff i
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actually he watches all this so we're not about you don't want to talk about that yeah um okay
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but is there plans for changing the appearance and all that definitely and i'm all for it but
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Are you saying, like, you want them to wait until they're 18?
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I think, honestly, I feel, like, a little bit older than 18, you know what I mean?
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But, I mean, I was on board for, like, the hair.
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That she was like, oh, by the way, I want to go by that.
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So short hair been short hair though for like four years.
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Does he like get mad at you if you fuck up the pronouns or no, no.
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I think he's very understanding because this is also new to me, you know?
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Somebody looks like somebody bought some merch.
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Guys, shop.whatever.com if you want to get yourself your own merch.
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So are there currently any guys in the picture?
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this. No, I'm playing. So you have a roster? I wouldn't say I have a roster. No, I would say
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that I hang out with people and they know what it is. They know that I am not interested in
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pursuing a relationship. So whatever happens that night happens, we're just hanging out,
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we're chilling, you know, and I make that very clear from the beginning. Because when I love,
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I love very hard and I've lost myself once in a relationship. And I think we can all kind of
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relate to that, you know, as a woman, like, you know, you fall for that fairy tale shit and it's
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just not real you know so this happened a long time ago in that five-year relationship that i
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spoke of earlier oh fairy tales oh yeah sure yeah so that's what i'm saying so now can you just push
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your cup a little bit uh just like push it yeah perfect thank you so now i'm more so of just like
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um i'm very focused on what i need to do and i'm getting very far in what i'm doing um i've you
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know i came from being homeless with my daughter to now having so much things right and just i
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built myself so I find it that when I'm single it's just best for me for you for me yeah not
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everybody obviously but good for you yeah for me oh yeah good for you gotcha uh what about you
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uh I've been keeping it on the DL but I'm in a relationship oh you're in a relationship
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why were you keeping it on the DL um well because you're dating multiple guys or no no just um
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because of like casting sometimes there's some casting yeah because i act and stuff so sometimes
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it's just better oh that sounds really sketch well just because at the beginning we were kind
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of seeing each other so there was no title but then since recently we're wait why would you hide
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your relationship status for casting i don't know sometimes it's just like oh uh like we want
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a single person for this ad even though there's nothing actually going on with other people but
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they just want us like single person so you're like yeah single i i guess for like a dating show
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maybe you might want them to be potentially but like actual acting gigs i don't think they would
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like for a proper acting gig i don't see why your relationship status should matter i'm a
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defend you yeah it is it's very true as a woman yeah they're more prone to hiring you if you're
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single available already and all that but if you're no trust me it is you can shake your head
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but you haven't obviously been in that situation right well no i mean so i understand like if
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these must be really like sketchy low quality production so i understand that there's a casting
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couch and these these photographers or what whatever like they want a casting couch they
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want to fucking harvey weinstein you or whatever like i fucking get that but like for most
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professional productions whether you're single you're married you're in a relationship i don't
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see how that that shouldn't matter i'm like it shouldn't matter but i don't even know why they
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would like why would they ask you like that's not that's not relevant to that okay i can give an
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example. So one of them, it was for a certain drink that they were gonna do ads for, and then
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in the ad, they want me to say something of the sort, like, if... So I'm single, if I'm up for
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this brand, then maybe you are kind of thing. So I have to, like, in the ad, say I'm single,
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so they prefer to say that I am. But if I am in a relationship, I can't do the casting.
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They don't want someone who's in a relationship
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So wait, they up front ask if you're in a relationship?
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Yeah, they're only going to cast people that are in a relationship
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Because they don't want anyone who's in a relationship
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Promoting it because that undermines the dating app
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How the fuck would it undermine the dating app
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i mean i'm gonna take your word for it i'm gonna just say i believe you that's still not what you
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not you guys but that's just retarded yeah like if this is actually true it's just retarded it's
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it's true but there's it was a moment in time like we were seeing each other and i felt like
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it could go somewhere but we weren't um like sure like in a relationship relationship so i was still
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open for that kind of castings for a bit so i wasn't like openly saying that title but
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now like it's locked in so i won't be taking those kinds how long have you been seeing him
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uh since november okay so about six months yeah uh what's the longest relationship you've ever
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been in uh three years three years who broke up with who um it's a little too touchy but uh he
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died oh yeah okay there you go uh okay and let's see so you've been seeing this guy for six months
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yeah like in a relationship or you met him six months i met him six months okay during that
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period of time were you dating other men before making it official i was open to it but i wasn't
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dating any okay is he canadian yeah okay did he go to college uh yeah yeah did he get a degree
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did you graduate yes okay all right uh okay ever married no okay what about you
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uh single how long you've been single since um june of last year so 11 months
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11 months okay longest relationship three years ever married that was my husband only once
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just one marriage yeah okay uh kids no no kids no kids
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he passed away oh i don't shit okay sorry i didn't put i didn't write it about it but so i don't know
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i think i saw something online oh it's in a documentary i saw something in the documentary
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okay yeah she passed away okay so i i don't was that referenced in the documentary it was well
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How long was the relationship that ended 11 months ago?
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Wait, is that the same one that you said your longest relationship, three years?
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um me but we stayed together for six months after the divorce it's complicated
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wait you got divorced but kept dating yes it's okay it is complicated
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all right okay um all right what about you uh single how long you've been single uh since i
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was born okay your whole life yeah that's right okay so let's explore that we're gonna explore
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that so uh you've been single your whole life what's the longest period of time so you've never
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had a boyfriend is what you're saying no mike what's the longest period of time you have seen a
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guy not very long at all a week two weeks maybe a month it's like a number of times maybe four or
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five and then four or five times yeah uh okay um so what but four or five times over the you can
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see somebody four or five times in a week it could take a month it could take two months yeah
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i'm not seeing anyone right now and that was for a really long time because i'm focusing on my
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studies sure my life everything like this and yeah that's it and so but uh the guy that you
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Did I say that right? I think she got it in English, too.
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I'm just this is more for me I'm practicing my French no can I add something some sorry I'm
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going but um she when she was in France she was like a different person than she is now so she
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was like really studying not very social and maybe a little bit from us like strict uh more
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um yeah strict family I'd say so and then like religious family no just strict strict yeah
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But we have some bad influences in our friend group.
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And is that the guy, you said you saw a guy four or five times.
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But it's not, I don't want to speak about that that much.
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She didn't just see one guy, she saw a few people.
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Yeah, I'm just like one after the other kind of thing, yeah.
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No, one after the other, but she hasn't just seen one guy for that four or five times.
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No, but I asked her what's the longest, so she hasn't had a boyfriend,
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but what's the longest period of time she was talking to or hanging out with a guy?
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and uh okay uh and how many different guys have you had that with oh not a lot how did you meet
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them dating app uh i tried but i really didn't like it okay yeah sure mutual friends yeah
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mutual friends okay what are you looking for right now someone who understand me who support me
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who is able to teach me a lot of things that i don't know um patient like i want to find a
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partner in life not just a guy that uh is there for me we will be a team and i'm still i know that
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stressing me out oh I need to find someone right
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a little over a year. I'm in the same as her. I'm looking for something serious, but I'm not
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in a rush. And then longest relationship? Seven months. Seven months. Yeah. Any kids? No. Ever
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married? No. Okay. You've been single for one year. Did the seven month one, is that the one
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that ended a year ago? No, that was a different relationship. Are there any guys in the picture
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currently? No. For you, are there any men in the picture currently? No. No guy? No guy. You're not
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on the dating app no dating you're not talking to a guy not talking you didn't kiss a guy recently
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it was maybe three weeks ago three once three weeks ago uh you know oh okay uh wait wait i
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have something on this um okay uh no guy in the picture no i am on dating apps but i'm not
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um so my last really i'm single and my last relationship ended about nine ish months ago
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okay my longest relationship wasn't my last one it was around three years no kids never married
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perfect thank you what about you uh i'm single i've been single since last june my longest
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relationship was four years and i don't have kids ever married i have not been married what about
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you um longest relationship is seven years um and i've been single for about four years
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ever married no any kids two same father no two different one two different fathers okay age of
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kids 11 and 15 all right and then the two two different fathers how long were you dating them
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respectively um before i got pregnant uh well how long were you with them total um i was with
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my oldest son's father for about i want to say three and a half and then my youngest
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he was seven years it was kind of off and on but pretty much together the whole time yeah he passed
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away how soon into each relationship did you get pregnant very quick how quick about want to say
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three months in for both of them yes damn y'all be y'all be moving fast yeah
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now question oh i guess question for both of you um were these were you guys like trying to get
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pregnant no was it were you on birth control were you on birth control birth control uh the first
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one no the second one yeah so like it didn't work what were you what were you taking um the shot
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the depo shot the depo shot really okay and so you were on the depth yeah because that's a bit
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more effective because it's not like oh i forgot my pill um interesting very strong okay so but
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the first one so question were you like were were you the first pregnancy you said no birth control
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were you uh using protection no was he just blasting yes up inside everywhere and you
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weren't on birth control no i was 17 17 wait do you have a type do i have a type like white guys
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Asian guys Latino like tatted Asian gangsters I mean yeah okay so it's an Asian guy yeah they're
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both Asian both you're both okay same gang same gang oh shit so they know each other right no
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they're not friends they bang together that sounded weird that's what they do they bang
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yeah they're um I think highly more of one than the other obviously um sure but yeah okay so
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Because she dated two guys in the same gang, no?
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No, but earlier I had said that it had nothing to do with them.
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And then for you, you were not on birth control?
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Were they just, not to be a little, were they just blasting inside?
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doesn't work blasting no yeah it's yeah i mean pull out pull out it has like an 81 percent
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rating or something but i mean you gotta if the girl's not on birth control and you're not pulling
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out not wearing a rubber and you're just blasting inside raw she's gonna get fucking pregnant like
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that she's gonna get pregnant like so i mean shit okay they're rolling the dice with their dick uh
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Or, well, with their child support payments, I guess.
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Okay, so that's everyone's relationship status.
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So what we're going to do, we have two lovely Canadian women here.
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Well, you're in a relationship, but I'm going to do her a favor.
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uh b-o-b-k-a and you're gonna put it in video tab uh and then you can put the video so these are
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they're canadian is payo this fucker payo is offline damn it i was gonna get you set up with
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payo i'm also we're gonna do xvc all right come on guys come on pull it up please uh
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b-o-b-k-a twitch.tv slash b-o-b-k-a this guy is a world of warcraft player you're gonna go
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full screen full screen full screen full screen full screen video tab video tab
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he's he's in the middle of a match but i'm gonna set you up with him he lives he lives in canada
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lower the volume a bit lower the volume a little bit i broke his van i have sheep gonna step to
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him big big ghosty too all right so he played this is a world of warcraft the burning crusade
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and um he plays uh he's a rogue they're in arena right now this looks like a 3v3
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oh boy here we go um it looks like they're up against was that a mage there no that's on his
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team no no that's the opponent wait fuck i can't see who's yes that is a mate wait
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oh he just got feared he just got feared uh who's on his team they lost they lost a tell
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bobka guys if i'm gonna open up another tab tell bobka we're watching him right now i'm trying to
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set him up with uh i'm trying to set him up with a girl uh so do you like do you want to date video
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game players or i'm not really i'm not really into video games doesn't matter if it and he's
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a giga chad he has almost 2 000 subs so he's a fucking giga chad and um somebody tell babka
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that we're reacting to him right now um so let's see so he's like one of the top tier rogue players
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in world of warcraft and he's in canada i don't know if you can detect the accent a little bit
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All right, so I'm going to get you set up with...
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I completely finished this video, but there was something...
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Oh, my God. He's just watching a fucking video.
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It's probably just, I don't know, Google XQC Instagram.
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And, because look, she's never had a boyfriend.
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so I understand that there's more than just his appearance
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a date with him maybe the multi multi multi-millionaire super famous i won't say no
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because it's everything i tried my best i tried i tried xqc the poor guy xqc he's had some marital
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issues long time ago you know he's he's out of that mess now but you are canadian you're also
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like from the French part. I'm French. Well, you're French, but you live in Canada. Sorry,
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you're French, but you live in Canada. You live in Canada. He is Canadian. He speaks French. You
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don't need your translator there. So it'll be, it'll be all good. All right. Okay. Well,
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that's everyone's relationship status. We're going to get into, where do we go first? I actually
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need to get up momentarily. What was there? Okay. No payo. Rip, rip, rip, rip, rip, rip. Okay.
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let's see the first topic one sec here guys actually let's start with the disagreements i
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feel like i'm like kind of lollygagging here with the beginning
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phase of the show does anyone have any disagreements oh bro what
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damn i told her the instructions and she just all right don't worry any disagreements anybody has
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with what not yet don't make me dig through college is a scam like like with you i agree
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with right like are we disagreements with you you mean uh maybe you said that oh okay she's
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getting up then all right i'm pretty sure some of you guys had disagreements in your notes do
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i have to really prompt you guys or okay all right we'll get to that yeah
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okay um here while we do that go ahead what's your disagreement oh me yeah just a little baby
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disagreement um i i i think a lot of times you say women cry just to manipulate people
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and that's like a some a podium you stand on uh well don't misrepresent the position sorry
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so the position is not in all instances when women cry they're doing so to be manipulative
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However, would you agree with me that women do cry to manipulate in some instances?
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I don't know if it's a small percentage, and this is going to vary by women to women.
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But, okay, continue on with your disagreement, though.
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Oh, just, I mean, because I think you also say that the Socrates quote,
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and then I researched the Socrates quote, heavily misattributed.
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A lot of people don't think actually Socrates said it.
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But I think your laser focus on that does not allow for women to,
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like a lot of times I cry out of joy almost every day.
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so it's just yeah well okay i guess a couple things so first off there's a mischaracterization
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here as to the laser focus okay this topic has come up perhaps three four times out of nearly
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300 episodes that we've done so i think laser focus this is not a topic that comes up a lot
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thank you man appreciate it brian your favorite brit is back question will you be bringing back
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the likes of maddie gustavo and joe for a special episode need the ogs back for sure
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hashtag michael is king yo uh adzils thank you the big tts man i really appreciate it
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guys show show some respect give uh put a w in the chat for adzils for the big tts thank you man
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uh i don't know who joe is i'm trying to get i i would like to get maddie and gustavo for
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episode 300 episode 300 i want that to be kind of a reunion episode but the availability for
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some big returning guests for like a super super 300 episode may not pan out but i'm i'm trying
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It's hard scheduling people, and I especially like to align it all on one date.
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Okay, so your disagreement that women cry to manipulate.
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So, again, not all instances where women cry, they are doing so to be manipulative.
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I don't even think I would say it's the majority of the time.
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I couldn't give you a percentage off the top of my head.
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women are more likely to cry in a way to manipulate as compared to men when women cry
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as compared to men it's often over something uh when men cry typically
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they're fucked up a woman a woman will cry because she had a rough day
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i've seen men cry because they've had a rough day yeah okay so i'm speaking hold on i'm speaking
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here as a sort of general principle. So yes, there are men who will stub their toe or will
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be minorly inconvenienced and will cry. However, here's my position. I'm trying to think the
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best way to frame it. Women, well, I guess the easiest way, women cry more. Women cry
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more than men. Can we start there? Do we agree? I don't agree. Definitely. You disagree.
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Because you won't catch me crying more than these men.
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So there are women who are stoic, and you'll never see them cry.
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And then there are men who are highly emotional who will cry.
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But these are sort of, I would say, leaning towards, especially for the man, very outlier.
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As a general principle, on average, I'm asking you, do women cry more than men?
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i guess we'll never know well i it's true though we won't know we can know do you think i i don't
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know if i could point to a study but i don't think you need a study to point to like to refer to like
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anecdotal universal experiences i really just feel like that's an opinion common sense it's an
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opinion okay well here before i respond to you let me open it up what do you think you were hold on
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I think women cry more than men because it's more socially acceptable to do so, but I don't think it's in a way to manipulate anyone.
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But again, my position is not in all instances where women cry, they do so to manipulate.
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Although, I do think there are probably some times where women may cry unconsciously in an effort to confer some sort of sympathy or benefit, where they might not be consciously attempting to do so.
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I haven't done that, but I've been accused of it.
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Well, let's start with if we can agree to some baseline things.
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So my position is, as a baseline, women cry more than men.
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So when I say women cry more than men, did I say Tatum cries more than men?
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No, I meant my observations might be a bit, because of the line of work that I do,
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But so, for example, if you're a police officer and you saw a disproportionate amount of dead bodies, as police officers frequently do, I don't think you could then map that on to a sort of average.
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Like, for example, let's say you're very specialized.
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Your sole job relates to investigating murders and homicides, right?
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But you would not map that on and say, like, the majority of people commit homicides and murders because on a daily basis I'm dealing with the investigation of homicides and murders.
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So in your case, your claim, you're going to say, well, I'm a sex worker and these men are very vulnerable and they sometimes cry when receiving my services or whatever.
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well besides my line of work i will say that um the most masculine men i've dated
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are the ones who've cried the most and the more feminine men i've dated i never saw them cry once
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which is fascinating right the most masculine men you've dated cried the most yes because
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Because they're in touch with themselves, and they're so confident in their masculinity that they're okay crying, and I think that's awesome.
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The most masculine man you've ever dated, when you say he was comfortable crying in front of you, what was the – could you maybe list a few of the things that he cried about?
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So, for example, I would have no quarrel with a man crying if his mom died, his father died, a sibling died, perhaps even a pet, a beloved pet died.
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Were those the circumstances under which the man was crying?
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I mean, there's a handful of circumstances, but I mean, with my husband, when I told him I wanted to work at a brothel, he definitely cried.
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huh i'm gonna allow that as a reason for a man to cry your fucking wife wants to become a
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prostitute i'll give him a pass on that um yeah i'm gonna okay that from as representative of
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the male delegation your fucking wife wants to become a prostitute and the relationship is
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basically over i guess yeah you can cry i guess sure no we stayed married for two yikes okay well
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I think he did a lot of crying around that topic.
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But in the other relationship, it was just like processing his own relationship with his father and crying through that.
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that's like really honorable to do well so i i mean i'm not gonna dig too much no i know i know
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but if there was like abuse this can obviously no no no no this can obviously uh and if you're
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like talking through that uh then that could probably prompt uh tears i'm actually gonna
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walk back the granting that he cried when you told him you want to be a prostitute honestly i
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I think if your wife tells you she wants to fuck other men for money,
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I think you have to be a stone-cold killer.
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You've got to be a stone-cold killer and just instantly divorce.
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If my girlfriend came to me, or my wife even, my wife comes to me,
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i need the best divorce attorney no uh are you jewish huh are you jewish no but i mean they're
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known for being good lawyers oh i see solid lawyers i'm gonna call it all right right mr
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goldstein i need a divorce uh and uh i'm gonna yeah and it's an instant divorce i'm i'm i'm
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either like get the fuck out the house out the house you go or i'm leaving if we got kids
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all right custody dispute i'm trying to get the kids 100 custody
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but i ain't crying i am not crying when's the last time you cried yeah yeah yeah brian
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yeah brian let me think about this you know what i was watching a sentimental movie let me think
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Wait, what was the movie that I was watching?
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And the old man is like, this cute little pig is like, that'll do, pig.
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In my heart, I cried internally when he was like, that'll do, pig.
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Does that stem from maybe like, you know, because that's like a thing.
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Because coming from an Asian household, you'll never hear your parents be like, I'm so proud
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so it's like you know nowadays like when i do something you know somebody close to me or
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somebody i actually respect is like oh i'm proud of you for doing this and you know it's like oh
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you feel differently you know so i think maybe like you referencing that part from the movie
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you weren't growing up with people being like i'm proud of you no my parents were both very loving
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they're still they're still married maybe just touch something very very pretty normal i'm just
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curious uh good household parents still together still married um loving caring parents so
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no it was i wasn't like thinking i was i mean i'm a pig now that's another conversation to be
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hold on we have a tts here really quick from adzils thank you man appreciate it adzils donated
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two hundred dollars joe as in joe who worked as security for whatever during 2024 and made
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appearances in a few episodes black tall and about six feet three inches i could send an image on
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discord i have you added yeah no i i thought that's who you're talking about but he was on
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like he was on the panel for i think one episode long time ago uh and then did security on like
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two episodes so i don't feel like he was super central that would warrant him coming on but uh
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thank you adzils for the tts appreciate it okay back to crying uh did anyone else want to weigh
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on this topic who cries more men or women me you i cry a lot you cry a lot okay what about
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you i cry a lot but i definitely agree that women cry more than men in general women cry more what
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what do you think in general women cry more okay i agree women cry more what do you think women
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cry more and i was gonna say i cry a lot hormonal changes hormonal crying okay yeah yeah um and then
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you said you cry a lot yeah i'm a sensitive person sensitive yeah sensitive did you cry today
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no yesterday yesterday but just a little bit one minute but so question for you how often would
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you say you cry i don't have an average well but it happens when it happens sometimes a week
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All right, sometimes a film will move you.
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There's something that got me misty recently.
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I think women have more access to their emotions.
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at this point in time and men are catching up men are catching up well there could be like a
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hormonal as she said predisposition to this um but uh could it be that emotions may manifest
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in different ways so uh i think men tend to go to anger before that's how i say so for me like
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If they get mad, it's like the female version of crying.
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But once again, I think it's because it's more socially acceptable for us to cry and I guess more socially acceptable for them to get angry.
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Now, the quote that I'm referencing, and you are correct that there is,
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whether it's attributed to Socrates or not, there's obviously some,
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and it's more likely than not he didn't actually say this.
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Regardless of who actually is the originator of the quote, though,
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And again, not all instances, and I would say even the majority of times when women are crying, certainly they're not doing so as a means of manipulation.
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However, I do think that they're, depending on the context, in a crying that occurs in a social interaction, and specific social interactions,
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the rates of when crying occurs in these specific social interactions,
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that can actually be quite a high amount of manipulation.
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Well, one specific situation where you might be holding a woman accountable.
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In that specific situation, if you do see tears,
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I think there's actually quite a high probability
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that tears are used as a method to attempt to elicit sympathy and tears have a tendency to
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shut down dialogue. Now, I'll give you examples. Now, it's never my goal. The reason I cited on
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the podcast is not to say when women are crying in other contexts that they're doing so to
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manipulate. But we have had women cry on the podcast. And this often has occurred. And again,
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it's never my goal. But it has happened. When women cry on the podcast, this typically has been
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happens when I'm pushing back on something. And what happens when a woman cries, it's actually,
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The manipulation is actually not even necessarily an action from the woman.
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ah, well, we have to put aside the logical conversation we're having,
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and we need to placate, and we need to coddle her.
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And if I continue with my line of questioning, and by the way, this has happened very few times.
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But I have noticed a pattern where if you start continuing on with the questions or whatever,
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and the woman's crying it is somehow uh other women will do a sisterhood thing
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despite a logical presentation of the actual conversation it shuts down conversation and
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i believe that is manipulative oh so it's like you're saying it's a collective manipulation
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rather than well there's it's a sympathy thing in the sense that like we've had women
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cry uh oftentimes over very it's not like i oh i hit like a sense of thing like for example i mean
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obviously you know uh if you've had like a loss or whatever it's not like i hit something sensitive
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there it's just they start crying because for i don't know for whatever reason okay i'll give
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you an example oh here's a perfect example i was talking to a girl and famous clip she said
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she invoked misogyny she said not me directly but she said that i think it maybe was a chatter
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or there was an idea that was being presented and she said that's a very misogynistic idea
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that's the essence of it it was a long time ago i might be misremembering the context
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but she did invoke misogyny and i asked her to define misogyny
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and she couldn't define it and i was like well what and she started crying
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because she maybe she felt embarrassed she didn't know the definition of it and then she asked to
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leave and the other women when by the way i wasn't like you stupid fucking bitch how do you
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i was very calm i was very calm i was just like so what's the definition
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and then the women were like brian brian stop stop she she's crying i'm like okay well it's
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a discussion podcast i mean like as if i was i was uh like i was treading on her by talking to her
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like i don't know so i don't know that's the manipulation i guess where where it will be
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used to attempt to cultivate sympathy from surround or nearby people or whatever and
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once the tears come out you can no longer i don't know right so the goal is to continue
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not a bad thing I think that would be a strength
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I make a very good effort to avoid insults. I might disagree with people, but I try to avoid
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just straight up insulting people. Uh, but even disagreements or inquiry, inquiry into somebody's
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perspective has resulted in this. And, uh, I'll get blamed. You made her cry. I'm sorry. Uh,
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I don't I don't I reject that as an idea that I made them cry they cried they are in fact crying
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but I made them cry now I'm the villain I'm the monster I'm the bad guy for her perhaps
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disproportionate emotional reaction or even if it's a valid emotional reaction
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why am i to be blamed as the cause of this reaction yeah i don't think you should be blamed
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but i think that crying over embarrassment is a very you know common reaction people get embarrassed
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and they cry because they don't know you know we're embarrassed that's the whole reason so i
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don't think you should be blamed but i think maybe a little bit of understanding about why she's
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crying because she's embarrassed that's like you know just basic human decency i think we should
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just be nice to each other and not i'm not saying you weren't nice to her i'm saying like just be
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like okay i shouldn't be blamed but she's crying because she's embarrassed could be i'll be right
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back but you guys can either continue on on the crying thing or discuss i think it's the fault of
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the english language it's like when you say i hurt my hand it doesn't mean that you took a hammer and
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hit your hand like your hand hurts yeah i don't know maybe she was just nervous and yeah yeah
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and it's hard to talk when you're crying so well a lot of people use words that they really don't
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know the meaning to just because they hurt somebody else use them i would probably sell
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true yeah but don't you think a lot like i think a lot of crying and it's involuntary so i think
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it's it's it's interesting to say like like i think okay sure maybe sometimes it's manipulative
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but a lot of it is so involuntary like yeah can't we just accept like a lot of human behavior is
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involuntary like i raise my eyebrows too much it's not like i'm trying to like if it's manipulative
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i don't think it's in like fully consciously intentional personally right at the same time
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if someone's crying it can be but like from experience like maybe like after i started
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crying like something went on to my advantage but it's never i'm just like nervous stressed sad so
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i'm crying and then right i feel like anytime i've cried manipulatively it was because i knew
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that was like what i was going to gain out of it okay does that make sense like if i'm if something
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happens and i'm crying and i'm like by myself obviously like who am i gonna have to manipulate
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but if i know that like i can gain something out of it to make myself feel better you know
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i feel like everyone is guilty of that at some point even if it's your parents you know i'm sure
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when we were younger we were like oh i really want ice cream if i cry for it they'll eventually give
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in so to say that like no one or you know personally you haven't done it you've got to
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think even of the small things i know it's like we're talking about dating as a kid i wasn't i
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was just i wanted ice cream and i wasn't getting it so i was right but in a sense it is manipulative
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it's a manipulative tactic and even if we're not consciously thinking about it at the time because
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we're children that is what what you know but i think as adults we should have some type of
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like regulation to that i don't think it's fair to use that tactic and be like okay let me cry
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to get what i want out of it i think i'll do whatever i want to get what i want not that i
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do that but i'm just saying no i'm not talking about what exactly you know i mean if you're like
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crying because if i'm in front of a man and i need to act a certain way i'll read him right
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and i say okay this is my end goal this is what i need to do sure not talking about crying just
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by itself i'm talking about like other shit right like if i need to do what i need to do and i could
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read this man and if that's what's stopping me from getting what i want i'm gonna do it yeah
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right i'm not talking about just crying so i don't know everything my brother is like you know
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we shouldn't do that i don't know no that's not what i mean like i'm not i'm not talking about
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men specifically i'm just talking about like i mean like okay you're let's just say like you're
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you're homeless you have no money you know i mean sometimes you gotta cry like look i'm starving
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you know i mean you might shed a tear or two but i'm saying like if you're gonna work at the ranch
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you know fire but i'm saying if you're just like chilling not getting your way like what is the
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point of that because at that point i feel like that's creating other roadblocks in whatever
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relationship if we're referring to relationships you know what i mean i think crying is just a
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wasted time sometimes i don't know that's what i tell my kids right i'm i'm not saying all that
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like obviously we're human we have emotions right obviously but i just feel like some people they'll
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sit there and they'll wallow in their emotions and oh woe is me and i'm fucking crying and
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there's no solution there so for me i'm a very practical thinker i feel like you know i try to
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teach my kids this too like you can sit there and you can cry about something but what the fuck is
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i gonna do nothing so for me i'm like okay cry about it cool not now what are we gonna do about
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this that's just how i think about it so it might come off as like insensitive to me but i think
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that's just how i was taught throughout life like i'm not gonna sit here and cry about it what the
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fuck i gotta figure it out you know so that's why like when girls are like oh my god i just cried
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about it for five hours why you know i'd be like bitch what crying is healthy it's healthy to you
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maybe it's not healthy to me you know what i mean every to each his own you know what i mean so
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but that's just how i feel about it because those five hours could have been spent figuring something
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also biochemically crying does have a calming effect so if there is one purpose it does calm
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the individual down some people cry more than others i'm not saying no of course but you know
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i mean i'm just saying i think it is medically proven that crying is a form of comfort it's you
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know so if someone cries about something for five hours it just might be their form of comfort at
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the time i don't think it's about like i cry more she cries less it could be about the same situation
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you're releasing that bad energy right well here let me ask a couple clarifying questions on the
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crying thing here uh you're a stripper or used to be used to be though used to be
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used to be a stripper or you still dance sometimes I do pop into clubs okay can I ask
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uh when you guys were there how frequently would you and there's a locker room right
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there's a locker room yeah would you see women crying
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no not really not really what about you didn't see women crying no and what about your work at
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the ranch do you hear or see women crying i'm on a individual on an individual basis usually it's me
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data was a crier we've already established that uh all right and then i mean the other example
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that i would cite to is that for example if on tiktok um i think women are far more performative
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with their crying so like here's an example i would give women just this is what women will do
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like have you seen the crying i hate those i hate those do that cry by yourself okay let me put the
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camera on let me put it in a good angle let me get my tripod yeah record they fucking cry like
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they record crying tiktoks like there was this one uh i mean it's not just one there's like dozens if
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not hundreds of examples of these we're like women post tiktoks of them crying they're in
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their car crying they're in the shower crying and it's like look sometimes you're crying over
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some real shit right but i feel like look from the male perspective you can't just be dishing out
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cries just for for the fuck of it as a man there are as the representative of the male delegation
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there are some there's a code there's a code that men need to live by an honor code
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the only times in which a man is allowed to cry are as follows he has cancer diagnosed with cancer
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okay you can cry upon receiving the news that you've been diagnosed and then we will grant
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every 14 days the the continuing sorrow you can cry once every 14 days if you cry before
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depending on successive if it's stage stage one stage two you know it reduces by days a family
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member dies you can shed one tear if it's a like a cousin i'm talking you know brother sister
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mom dad you can bawl your eyes out you can cry totally fine
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uh child yep definitely can cry if your child dies uh what else you were involved with something
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severely traumatic like i don't know you saw the fucking towers in nyc fucking fall down
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in that moment you're a first responder you saw some shit you can cry your police officer
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involved in a shooting, you can cry. You're a firefighter, and it's the worst fire that
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you've seen in 10 years, and you've been up for 36 hours, and you're pulling bodies out
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I'm going to wait for judgment on the bird thing
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I'm sure I forgot one or two other circumstances
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But just in general, why can't they cry for other things?
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is men ought to be as in control of their emotions as possible.
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And so this also would relate to, I don't know, well, that's one, that's one, gender roles.
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Now, you might say, we should reject gender roles.
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Okay, all of you think men should pay on first dates, get fucked.
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Most of you probably would prefer a man who's masculine.
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It's socially stigmatized and shamed for men to cry.
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Now, again, there are certain circumstances where, like, you know, if a police officer is not the one who did the shooting, but he is responding to the call, and he gets there, and the police officer who, you know, killed somebody, and he sees that guy crying,
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the police officers should go rub his back give him some support and be understanding that he's
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crying in that context you should in genuine uh situations of crying if it's non-private and it
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isn't public uh no there shouldn't be like some sort of mocking that should go on for these people
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or perhaps even i don't think you should mock a man in any circumstances in which he's crying
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However, realistically speaking, there will be a social judgment that occurs when men do cry.
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And then in addition to that, this is also not just propped up by other men, but women themselves will, let's say it's your girlfriend,
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a lot of women are not prepared to deal with male emotions in that way, and you will lose attraction for that man.
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You, it might even be on a subconscious, unconscious level.
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If a dude fucking cries, it's not gonna, it's not gonna go over well with women.
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And you might say, no, of God, be supportive.
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You want a virtue signal because you want to be perceived.
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And it would come off as harsh or perhaps unnurturing to say,
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But deep down somewhere, whether unconscious or conscious, a lot of women have an issue with their man crying.
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I feel like it depends on what they're crying about.
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And you can say this, and you say, men, proceed at your own peril this advice that you should fucking cry in front of a woman or be vulnerable in front of a woman.
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It's bullshit, and women might not even understand their own psychology when they witness a male who is weak, or a man who is vulnerable, or a man who cries, because women do not respond well to weak men.
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So, men, as a general rule and principle, should not cry, in front of women especially.
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And yes oh compassion and empathy blah blah blah
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Well I didn't think so at the time but whatever
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like one time he found out something we're all chilling one of my homeboys told him something
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like hey you know porsche gets really bored of guys something something he left right he sends
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me a picture of him in bed sideways crying and i was like i know i know damn well bro you ain't
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never gonna see me again after this because what the fuck is that that like that's pathetic
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what you just said like yeah when when you asked me like oh do men cry more than women in my my
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situation i don't know if maybe i make men cry more or what was he what was he crying over because
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because he thought that i was going to get bored of him over a joke basically oh my home wait you
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noticed how like half the women laughed yeah that's why you don't cry in situations like that
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picture yeah why are you it's like the tiktok thing why are you sending me a picture of you
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crying bro you're a baby oh great you're a princess sure but you agree with me if we
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elevate this idea that men ought to be i never said that i don't agree with that i know you
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didn't say that but other women here are saying oh you should be vulnerable in front of a woman
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it's fine to cry in front of a woman a woman's not going to change a woman's not going to change
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her perspective let me tell you why why okay obviously me her her we're all different right
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I feel like she's a very soft, sensitive, little, I'm just a girl, right?
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Well, she does say that in her notes, I recall, that she prefers very masculine men.
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Because masculine men brings out the feminine in you.
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So I don't know if we have a different understanding of masculinity, but I think a component of masculinity is emotional stability.
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you if you're you know there's i'm not crying i'm gonna butcher the saying but like this idea
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of stoicism you're the what is it it's like some i don't even rocky upon the rocky promontory and
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the waves are crashing you remain still and sturdy uh that is the idea of stoicism that is the idea
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of masculinity love that and so a man who is crying in now look just to be clear of course
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women like you're dating a guy for two years his mom dies he cries I don't think that the
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circumstance in which he cries is important most women are going to be like this completely makes
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sense his mom just died he's crying although I would say perhaps some women still feel a little
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something but I think most women are like of course this makes sense a family member just died
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i'm here for my boyfriend however if the man cries in circumstances where you think perhaps
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this isn't warranted for a man to cry why is he being a baby why is he being a sissy being a bitch
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yeah it's gonna be like you women are gonna have an issue with it but in her example
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um earlier if a girl were to do the same thing to like she didn't doesn't like something one
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of the friends said at the table she leaves doesn't communicate anything and then sends a
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picture of her crying that's also weird too i don't think that example is really that good
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oh i was just bringing up one for funny yeah just to tell you guys it's funny yeah like it's really
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situational well yeah really quick on the vulnerable thing so like crying would be a
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form of vulnerability would you guys agree yes yeah and i respect but so i'll give you another
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example of being vulnerable in front of a woman a woman which should you be in this position it
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will be at your peril as a man so uh if you ever are in a state of weakness as a man and this could
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be if you're okay i'll make it super simple if your girlfriend sees you get beat up
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not all women yeah but there's a 50 there's a 50 where's your gun there's a 50 chance
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she's lost maybe not all but a high portion of her attraction for you uh she's going to view you
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in a different way whether consciously or subconsciously she might not even she might
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be there you might take care of the guy when he's all fucked up or whatever just got his ass whooped
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there's a part of you inside that you might not even know you're like
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you do lose fights you get knocked out in fights she was dating another mma fighter
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and uh or maybe she was a kickboxer or something i'm not sure but uh no i think she was mma fighter
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her she saw her boyfriend get knocked out during a not like a street fight like a an mma an official
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match you know and she was like oh when i saw him get knocked out and he got in the fencing
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position or whatever the fuck she was like i dumped him right after and so and i look i have
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my own anecdotal experiences i've heard from other men i can tell you my own experience i'm not going
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to go super fully into detail uh i got jumped by three people so it wasn't like a 1v1 and you know
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i didn't really have a fair chance i got jumped by three people this was many years ago and luckily
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it wasn't that bad, but I did get punched and I was like, I got, um, I ended up on the ground
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and like my fucking knee or something got fucked up. So I was like kind of limping for a little,
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for a week. And I had like massive, uh, uh, like road rash or whatever. So like bruise, like skin
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ripped off, whatever. And, uh, and so I was like in pain, kind of limping around. And, uh, right
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after it happened i was seeing this girl for six months i call her up and i'm like hey i just got
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i just got jumped come over babe she comes over to her credit you know helps me out takes care of
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me but like there was an instant like switch and by the way i didn't cry i wasn't like oh my god
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i was just like i told her what happened i got jumped she saw me all week limping whatever
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the whole relationship changed ick well she never she never she sucks i think the wrong person
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no she was actually i mean there's nothing i don't know but we never argued we were together
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for six months never argued immediately she started fucking arguing with me immediately
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because everything bothered her after that right me and so when that shift happens in a relationship
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when it was smooth sailing and then she starts nagging and bickering and kind of testing you a
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little bit yeah well one it's over but two she lost respect for you yep she lost respect for me
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she lost and look not all women are like that but you're rolling the dice with a woman because you
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don't really know what kind of woman sometimes even the woman doesn't know she doesn't even know
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so you're rolling the dice and uh ultimately and you might say well brian you shouldn't date a
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woman like that well you know i think somewhere deep down in the in the lizard brain men have a
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lizard brain too but in the lizard brain of woman you see your boyfriend get beat up or like you see
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him in the week like to you see your boyfriend being a little bitch you see your boyfriend uh
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I think it was in Colombia or Peru or something.
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He successfully robs the woman of her purse.
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Now, it's not clear if this was just a male friend.
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if it was a male friend or boyfriend or whatever,
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And so I would say that in instances of either male vulnerability,
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women definitely, whether consciously or subconsciously,
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judge men that was just the coward i mean i saw another guy that would it cowardice be
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vulnerability yes to be coward hold on what could be more vulnerable then scared i don't know
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how to deal with the life or death situation that would be that would be vulnerable that
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would be vulnerable oh one shade of vulnerability well yeah but the for example if a woman sees a
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rat scurrying across the floor and she shrieks and jumps up on the chair in the kitchen oh my
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god can you get it i don't i'm like perhaps i mean if i was having a logical thought process
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of it it seems like to some degree logically a bit of a disproportionate response uh however
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i wouldn't lose attraction for a woman if she did that if a man did that oh if a man okay spider
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You're going to, as a woman, you're going to lose attraction for the guy.
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Vulnerability, though, that would be vulnerable.
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So you shouldn't be vulnerable in front of women.
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um on our first date we uh went to boston and we were sitting in his car and he got bad news like
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about his mom and he immediately started crying in front of me and i wiped his tears and was very
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comforting just instinctually i'm very caring and comforting and even like months later before we
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broke up he said i just i just wanted to say thank you for being you know so understanding that he
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felt comfortable enough to let loose like that in front of me. So I definitely think it's very
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personable. Like it depends on the situation. But so that was one of my, you said something
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happened to the mom? Yes. Like she died? Not that day, but she did end up passing. Yes. Okay. So I
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mean, it was obviously something very severe. Yeah. That's one of my, you know, uh, grantings
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there. I might've, I think perhaps I didn't include like, okay, so not death, but like they're in a
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fucking terrible car accident and they're in a hospital. Yeah, that's fine. They could die.
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Yeah, that's fine if the man cries in that instance.
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I do have respect for men that feel comfortable enough in a woman's presence
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Wait, I have two really good examples, but then I want to move on to the topic.
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One example, this was actually another example from the show. It happened two, three months ago.
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We had a woman on who one of the questions in the thing here is wrong for a man to reject a woman because of her weight or a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
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And the woman was arguing that it is wrong.
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You shouldn't judge a woman because of her weight.
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And so I was like, you know, poking at her on that.
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By the way, if a woman doesn't want to date a guy because he's overweight, that's totally fine, too.
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so i don't have a double standard women can reject men who are chubby overweight trust me i get it
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all the time as a chubby man happens all the time totally totally acceptable thing for a woman to
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a female preference but it's also okay for the male to have that preference and she's like well
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i wouldn't date a guy who's under five foot ten and i was like well god if it's then it it either
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has to be okay then for the man to reject a woman because of her weight because you're fine with
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people rejecting people based on how they look right uh their appearance but then she was like
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well wait it's different blah blah blah and then she just couldn't she just couldn't she literally
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started crying though and like got not just crying got up and left and wait was she fat
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no she was well you know what it might have been an extensive topic she's on the thinner side
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oh so maybe it was like a tooth yeah yeah maybe she had maybe just something she had bulimia or
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anorexia perhaps who knows so it could have been a sensitive subject in any case i really don't
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think it's that sensitive um i wasn't like well tell me about how long you've been suffering with
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bulimia no it was just like she was like she couldn't wrap her head around the idea that men
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are allowed to not want to date a woman because of her weight now typically this is framed from
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the perspective of the woman's fat but technically yes that maybe the woman's too thin like she's a
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skeleton maybe she couldn't gain weight maybe that was like whatever things you know what i mean
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but like everyone has the right to their own she's not gonna say that everyone has the right
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to their own preference yeah but so she got upset with that conversation and she walked up
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off and left and then like i got blamed everyone's like brian you're kind of a dick
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no i was like anyways whatever uh then the the other example final thing on the crying thing
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world of warcraft who's familiar with the game well you just showed us but i've heard it but
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i have no idea how to play it yeah okay so this is crazy so actually i was being a little bitch
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you guys are not going to understand what the fuck I'm talking about
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some people I guess can play that like 10 hours a day
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massively multiplayer online role-playing game and so like if you're on a server maybe there's
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a few thousand people on the server well i guess now they merge servers so it's like tens of
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thousands of people but like you have your reputation and like there's social connections
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and like you can have a good reputation or bad reputation and there's favorite and there's
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guilds oh my god this is so fucking cringe such a nerd yeah the point here is i was in the top
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guild and uh this is a game you invest hours into so it's not just like right you get invested
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right and so uh i was in this guild and they had loot council they have got no fucking idea
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i'm almost at the uh the finish line here though all right i was on the receiving end
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of a really unfair loot distribution i should look people are gonna be like brian you're
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fucking loot goblin by the way i don't play video games anymore i haven't touched a video game since
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like essentially like i stopped playing video games since like 2020 i played like one week
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two years ago but that's it uh you know had a little relapse he's in recovery i had a relapse
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for like a month or no sorry a week but i was like i'm too busy with the podcast i don't have time
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one week relapse haven't played video games since 2020 i was on the bad end of a bad loot deal
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and my girlfriend was like kicking it in my bed while i was playing and i got i was like pissed
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i was pissed because look you pour hours of work into this hours of work like just it's like
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hours you're playing fucking eight nine ten hours a day uh and this was a period in my life where i
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basically had fuck all going on so this was my main thing right very bad blue thing and it wasn't
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the first time i got screwed over another so i was like oh man like what's going on i'm getting
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screwed over in the guild and i actually so i actually decided to quit uh not long after but
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that's besides the point but my girlfriend i was telling her i was telling her about what happened
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very vulnerable that relationship was over within a month that's right yep yeah within a month it
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was over yeah yeah it's a game yeah but i get it she was not happy yeah i didn't oh my god they
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gave they gave they gave you the wrong loot like no they didn't give you enough they gave
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perdition's blade perdition's blade like the fucking best dagger from ragnaros molten core
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for like right you don't you don't get you don't replace perdition's blade for fucking months
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that's your best in slot no like sure i understand what she knows what i'm talking about she plays
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i do not but um i forgot to put it in my list but gamers like hardcore gamers like that huge
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ick wait say that again huge ick um but yeah my ex was like in a huge gaming phase at some point i
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was so annoyed it's so unproductive nothing you're not it's a it's doing anything good for
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your future you're just in your room getting mad at a computer oh if it's like to that point where
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like i do think it actually in some ways like there's certain games that you will become smarter
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if you play that game it'll help with your hand-eye coordination it'll help with organization
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it'll help with like doing tasks in an expedient way like in world of warcraft oh shit like you
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gotta if you're like leveling there's a way to maximize your level leveling routes and shit
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that has that's life skill application right but in any case overall i think video games are a
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distraction that's why i quit i don't play them anymore um but uh especially it depends if you
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can do it in moderation but for me it wasn't and i've never been addicted i've never been addicted
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to drugs or alcohol or smoking anything but video games oh boy i might as well be a fucking meth
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fiend because i can't be casual with it i can't just play two hours yeah right i need to play
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10 hours that's your life i think most men just kind of like that yeah so i'm like look i understand
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you have to learn but related to the ick though that's an interesting segue for sure related to
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the ick i think it's fair for women to have an apprehension uh to it's a fair preference to not
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want to date a guy who um yeah close the door uh to not want to date a guy who plays video games
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i think that's fair women have this preference it's hot but i think i think men men are willing
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to acknowledge this to a degree now some some men will go on the defensive yeah
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but i think it's fair for men to also make criticism of women's behavior but when men
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criticize things women do women do a lot of defensiveness and do a lot of cope so for example
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i would say i don't know what the what is the corresponding thing to video games
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like what's the thing women do maybe i'll give a list social media maybe like it could be social
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media usage it could be uh going out to bars and clubs and partying yep it could be dressing
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revealing it could be sex work or only fans and then also make absolutely not i disagree uh plastic
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surgery and makeup these are the things so these are the behaviors that men want to stifle in women
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oh okay but you're not comparing it to gaming right because it's totally different everything
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you just named is totally different than spending 10 hours on a game doing nothing
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you know what i mean like all the things you just named like different yeah me doing social media
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or I want to get something done, this is to make more money
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you guys are just sitting there on a fucking game
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I would disagree, like a competition or whatever
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Sure. Yes. So I agree. So, uh, look, I think video games in moderation, uh, women can still
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prefer against that, but video games in moderation, not such a big deal. 10 hours a day. I think it
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is going to have an impact. Um, but, uh, and look, I, but I'm fine with women having the
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anti-video game preference, but women seem to really push back against the don't be going to
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club. Don't be dressing in a certain way. Don't be partying. Don't be drinking. Don't be going
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on girls trips don't be doing xyz women do not like that conversation yeah no that's fair that's
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valid i don't know it depends on who it is can i give a example club and everything i understand
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that um and then obviously like dressing too revealing i can also understand that
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that this guy just said um only fans obviously don't worry about that only fans obviously
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But hey, Pasty George, I don't know if you caught Canadian.
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Yeah, he mentioned earlier, he talked about them.
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He said, be careful, Chair 4, your friend C2 is jealous of you.
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Just another example of men not knowing what the fuck is going on.
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of h hour podcast all right thank you man for the uh message thank you soli uh okay so there's that
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Anyways, I don't know where I was going with that, but the video game thing.
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I think when a woman's in a relationship, she should not be going out to the bar or club, period.
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The men should not go to bars and clubs, period.
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I went a few times when I was younger, but no, I haven't been to a bar or club in probably over a decade.
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So when I say bar or club, I'm typically, like, obviously there's, like, more lounge-type environments where you might meet up with a friend, and it's not a party environment.
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Like when I say bars and clubs, these are, I'm talking about party.
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But so I guess yes in the relationship also, but it's different.
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So for example, men and women, would you agree with me that men and women have different strategies when it comes to dating?
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Yes. So for example, men will like say before the advent of social media, it still is the case
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for social media and dating apps before social media, uh, men would go up to women. Generally
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speaking, men would make the first move. Agree. They're supposed to. Yeah. Right. And so typically,
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so women might put themselves in a venue that gives men access to approach them. So women,
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are not like uh they are i suppose passive they're not active in the sense that when you'll
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never see a woman who's like a pickup artist go out to a bar and like approach like 10 dudes in
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a row me okay i'm kidding i'm kidding so you don't really see that like but as a guy um if if you're
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trying to mack on girls in a bar or a club he might go up to 10 different girls in a night right
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um 10 20 30 whatever he's shooting his shot women don't do that women will put themselves
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in a situation to be approached though when men and women get into relationships
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we say you have to we say to men and i technically women too even though women don't do it to begin
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with you can't go up to new people and hit on them you need to stop men have to stop their behavior
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when they're in a relationship. We don't put it. We don't stifle what women do when they're in a
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relationship. And so because we have different strategies, women, you're not going to like go
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up and hit on a guy or slide in his DMS. Although sometimes you do, sometimes you can, but you might,
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you might post photos on Instagram. You might thirst trap on Instagram and you wait for the
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men to come to you. That's your strategy as women. That's fair. You might go to a bar or club. You
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might not go up to a man, but you might be in the venue. And look, I get it. You don't just go to
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the bar and club just to get a dick. I get it. But if a really handsome, cool, attractive guy
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happens to be there and talks to you, you're not going to just instantly necessarily shut that down
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if you're single. So if you're in a relationship, I believe the man should, of course, not be
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approaching women. That's his strategy when he's single. Why aren't we having a conversation about
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shutting down women's strategy when they're clearly in the relationship? You got to shut
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down your methods of procuring men. So the entire time women are in fucking full-blown monogamous
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relationships and married y'all are still advertising us men we're salesmen we are salesmen
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we're going out there y'all are marketers you guys market and you continue marketing throughout
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the relationship and throughout the marriage i don't really think so i think some women are very
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happy with their men and they're not doing all that right well okay yes fine then if they're
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not doing all that perfect they're doing what they should do if you're in a relationship you
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You can't be posting thirst traps on Instagram.
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You've got to put your shit private, and you should not be going to bars and clubs.
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That is fine, but if I'm in a relationship, if I'm on vacation, I can't post a picture in a bikini or something because I'm in a relationship.
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Oh, so you make all the rules, basically, is what you're saying.
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uh tiffany can you get water for if oh yeah if any of you need water maybe just like hold it up
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and my assistant will get it for you guys okay i personally i i want to be more like onto like
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social media like a content creator like influencer type situation that's like the end
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goal hopefully um so i don't know if i'd i'd get rid of like certain things but i wouldn't
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i don't know about maybe deleting my whole instagram i go private but like
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that kind of defeats the whole purpose of trying to be an influencer especially like on tiktok and
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stuff like yeah well the other reason you shouldn't date influencers is because they'll literally use
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your relationship as content and like um so i don't know that's another issue that's why i'm
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like highly averse to dating any women who are involved in social media because they'll just
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use the breakup for content then again well of course it depends on the creator yeah like not
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everyone i suppose but like like i'm a private i'm a private individual when it comes to my
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relationships and uh relationships should not relationship issues should never be litigated
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in the public sphere ever no exactly but literally like look i guess men can do this too
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but women will literally be making tiktoks about guys they're actively dating and i'm like bro
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how can you date a woman who's literally airing out everything like no no that is absolutely yeah
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i agree that it definitely depends on like the person obviously well i'm i personally am not
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one to go do that so i have seen that so i know exactly what you mean but beyond that like i don't
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even I mean putting social media aside if you're in a relationship with somebody I don't even think
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unless it's like really something insane I think it's really toxic when and men can do this too
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but girls y'all talk with each other and I think it's toxic when in a relationship now look there's
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on one hand I think it's fair to attempt to get advice from your girlfriend
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you will a woman will poison the well with her entire friend group because she's constantly
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complaining about her boyfriend my perspective i don't know if i'm old school this can be family
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too you do not talk shit or just like dump about potential conflict to your family or friends
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about your partner because yeah are you going to dump him right okay fucking dump him and then
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fine but if you're going to keep dating the guy and you're just oh my god my boyfriend's fucking
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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah yeah yeah i agree and then it's just poisoning the well and
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then you're going to stay with them and then i'm going to be meeting your friends and your friends
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fucking hate me yeah now i'm of course i'm a perfect gentleman and my girlfriend would never
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think to say anything hypothetical yeah no i totally i totally would never think to ever say
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anything negative but guys do that too ever so it goes both ways like like men shouldn't be talking
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shit about their girlfriends to their guys suffer in silence men suffer in silence we don't really
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laugh yeah i say no a lot of men like for example a lot of guys hold on let me y'all friends right
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yeah yeah c'est bien ça et bien don't she's had some new experiences right
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has she told you about the experiences as her friend i've witnessed them you you were in the
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bedroom seeing it wait hold on that was just a joke but she might was this a threesome threesome
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next question whoa what you lost your virginity in the threesome no no no no no no that would be
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have you had a threesome i want to return you want what i want to answer wait have you had
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a threesome though i won't answer i think that's a yes i guess that i guess yeah i guess we're
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different though damn bro losing virginities and threesomes and all this shit no that's a no
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okay all right more than the threesome no who hears show of hands who's that threesome
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foursome gangbang bukkake i know no okay no i don't know you could have a non-okay
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okay uh nobody else threesome three threesome when i was real young yeah so yeah yeah look i
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haven't i have not had a threesome um no i you know the thing is uh i would
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but like i'm not gonna go out of my way okay like it has to fall into my lap like it has to my
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girlfriend has to be like do all the lifting she has to here's a threesome silver platter
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otherwise i ain't doing that shit so you're saying it has to be her idea
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pretty much it would have to be her idea she would have to do the leg work
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or it could just like spontaneously fall into my lap but i'm not going to be like hey babe
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let's organize a three no she i mean she can come to me with it but i okay generally speaking though
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look i don't know well i'm happy with one girl any it's like i don't want to disappoint two
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women at the same time i'd rather rather rather just disappoint one woman at the time you know
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so it's like you know right what what if she wants a dude in there not a chick whoa no hold on
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no absolute no when i hold on first off blasphemy oh god that's fucking that guy that's fucking
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haram two dudes two dudes and a woman fucking haram no the only acceptable threesome muslim
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no oh then why would you say right i mean it's arabic right or whatever i don't know
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the only acceptable threesome is two women and one man it's not that fun though i don't know
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i'd be pissed for you i guess yeah brought another girl i don't know have you been eiffel towered
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If I see their dick touchy or something, or one guy's thigh touch another guy's thigh,
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When I'm with someone, I love them too much.
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And I'll get pissed if he wants to bring in another girl.
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Like the country. No. Where'd you get that name from?
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That was also my name. Oh, you guys want to know
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Do you have a tattoo? Oh, she has a tattoo.
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wait you have a bit of a hair strand pull it back like there's a hair covering it oh yeah
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yeah right wow yep made in china wow that is that's actually cool i love that damn now i wish
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my name was china well it was almost china you know they say though the things that are made in
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china are typically low quality oh that was a nice brain no it's true like they no not the humans
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No, I'm just saying, like, the product quality, like, for example, certain plastics or, like, metal that's produced in China, typically not the highest quality.
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My mom is also half Chinese, so she was just randomly on that trip.
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I'm mostly indigenous, but I'm a quarter Chinese.
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have you seen bring it on yeah yeah you know the the the coach the girl before they brought in
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torrance oh big red oh yeah i was trying to figure it out the whole time yes yeah i was looking at
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the thing and i was like yeah you would be big red if your hair was if her hair was brown you
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bring it on yeah no she's great yeah i get uh georgina uh rodriguez the soccer player's wife
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and like dua lipa that's the ones i usually do uh what the were your parents doing in china
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uh my dad was uh coaching um like a chinese hockey league no this was like a training camp
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camp oh and my mom came with and okay things happened okay i want my children made in the
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united states i was waiting for some shit like that bro made in the usa made in the usa
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very patriotic of you uh that's cool china's fire were you born in china no i was born in
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vancouver vancouver my dad was playing for the canucks the canucks yeah why have i heard of that
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how i met your mother yeah yeah what are some canadian things i could say poutine poutine
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um sorry i'm sorry a boot a boot hey what's that about a boot all right i guess south park does
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and you guys are like eat donuts and like are happy
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i'm just i'm just in the bushes and i've heard y'all's con private conversations like i'm an
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anthropologist sociologist in the field uh i got khakis on and all that shit and i hear over here
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y'all talking man you guys share some details like sex details y'all talk about sex like crazy
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like y'all be talking about dick sizes and where he nut and what it tastes like what you did and
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it was like the viscosity and like the fucking the the the what no not this what's the word
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girth the the the i forgot the fucking word for it but y'all be talking about crazy shit
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if i sleep with a woman and my my buddy asked me oh man how'd it go last night you were you
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were hanging out with uh becky i'll be like it was good bullshit that's that's it what if it wasn't
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It's boring, but it's showing respect for Becky because I'm not just airing out, oh,
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Giant pussy lips, the biggest pussy lips ever.
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No, I keep that shit a secret because you never know.
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Maybe they got a thing too and they're trying to roll up and snatch.
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i'm just saying i gotta keep that shit under wraps i can't be telling my male friends
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she's got a giant like a giant pussy lips you know i can't be saying that
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i gotta keep that shit under wraps for me okay good talk yeah i feel like i've never like said
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oh this guy like i thought this guy he has a really big dick and my friend was like you know
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what let me like try to slide in there that's a shitty brand yeah yeah i don't think i've ever
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had to do i know what happens but i don't think i've ever had to deal with that i think like my
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friends are just like oh what happened like was it good we're just curious yeah he's talking about
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it wait hold on i'm sure in the history of women sharing details about men a woman has been like
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holy shit he was the most amazing sex ever blah blah blah uh somewhere in the female brain i feel
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like that triggers a curiosity if you have like a best friend maybe you're sharing all the details
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best friends do each other dirty sometimes i'm just saying they're not your friend right
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I used to have a lot of male friends, and they talked very dirty all the time.
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Well, this is perhaps a class thing as a sophisticated.
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Sophisticated man, I never talk about my sexual conquests ever.
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So if you had the best sex of your life, you wouldn't want to tell someone?
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Like, if that was the best performance you've ever had, you wouldn't want to be like, let me tell my friend.
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Well, you could tell your girl that was the best sex.
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Even if it is the best sex, you should not tell the girl the sex was really good.
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If the girl is really fucking good in bed, you can't boost her ego like that.
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Two years down, when she's locked in, then you can boost her ego.
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But, like, right away, you've got to pump the brakes a little bit.
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you got to like make her keep her on edge a little bit make her think the the oral sex game
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you know you can't be letting on too soon that the sex is too bomb because then she thinks
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there's this old eddie murphy joke very old this is some boomer shit he had this comedy special
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called i think it was raw i think it was from raw yes it was no what's his other one there's raw
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and then there's wait chat his like his specials from the 80s there's raw and then there's like
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starts with an i infamous or wait fuck delirious wait delir is it delirious delirious it was from
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raw so once a man makes a hold on let me start over okay i'm not gonna do the bit no but so
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once and i'm gonna butcher his joke and we can't play it because copyright he says we know we've
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got the woman once we've made her come real good like when she i don't even want to do it because
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it's cringe as fuck it's like if you make a woman go if you make a woman if you make a woman go like
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that you're in the pillow like i got this motherfucking that like that's you got that girl
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but so as a man you can't let a girl know too soon that the otherwise that the pussy is bomb
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you can't not too soon you can't let let it on too soon you can't let on that the sex is too good
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she's gonna get too confident confident you know yeah because you can't fake like like i don't fake
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an orgasm i'm just saying you can't you can't let if he's not doing it for me i'm not gonna let him
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You don't also like let's say she gives good head
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let's say she gives you a plus head first time yeah you gotta tell her b minus now here's why
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here's why always room for improvement if you just tell her out the gate maybe she was holding
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back too maybe she's on some super saiyan shit where the head it's like she but she's gonna stop
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there you gotta get to b minus and then she'll try harder next time interesting yeah that's so
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Now, I think the woman should simp, though, right away.
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The woman needs to be confessing her love to you within two weeks.
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like not in that way you shouldn't be like
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What I'm saying is if you do really feel that strongly about the guy, don't hold back.
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If you really feel strongly about the guy, even early on, you got to say that shit right away.
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That is the recipe to, nope, you cannot let a girl too early know how much, if you're too into a girl,
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you gotta basically uh no why though just now can you explain to me why though like because
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women do not okay hold on how do i want to frame this
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women are inundated with sins women are inundated with male validation male attention inundated
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And so I don't think women will respect that.
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If the guy – look, because I think the best relationship dynamic, the girl has to be more into you than you're into the girl.
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I agree with what you first said, but the second part, no.
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However, I think oftentimes there's an unequal interest level usually.
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Most of the time there's one person who's more into the other.
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Now, I'm not saying you can still really be into the person or be into the person.
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But the other person is more into you than the reverse.
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and not just, like, fucking attention-seeking, you know what I mean?
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Like, if I'm going to be with a man, like, it's got to be reciprocated.
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Look, sometimes there can be a genuine, like, equally, like, equal level of interest,
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I don't think it works out that well if the man is too into the girl.
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Okay, when you said that, I agree a little bit because, like, look,
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if a man comes off hella strong on me like oh my god I'm in love with you I'm like ew right right
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so I do I do value like the the chase a little bit you know what I mean like oh okay like he's
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not super into me because you are right like men do that all day right to me so I guess it is a
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little bit different when the guy is like yeah like you know less that way then I'm like okay
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cool you know I mean but yeah I agree with that but the other part you said no not really I thought
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it's considered thirsty if a girl is like shows she's too into a guy and then so that's my
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approach in dating i just don't show anything i look there's obviously different men out there
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my personal perspective is i like a woman who's up front it doesn't mean she needs to be
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uh i i still want to be in the lead but there's ways in a feminine way for a woman to be
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demonstrate her interest in you and frankly I I do think it's feminine if a woman's just
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fucking simping all over you like that's not masculine for a woman to be like oohing and
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gushing all over you you see that dynamic though like if a woman's dealing with a guy who's just
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like frankly way above her league like you might see that uh with a celebrity basically like these
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women are fucking gushing over uh fucking who knows jesse brown or whatever like are they
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lacking in femininity and they're like fucking gushing over him i don't think so i don't think
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that that's like somehow masculine uh but there's something like if uh fuck what's if oh man there's
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this great saying maybe somebody in the chat it's not coming to me somebody in the chat help me
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uh if you it's something along the lines like this somebody can correct me if you put her on
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a pedestal she'll treat you like a fan wait what what is it if you treat her like a what is what
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is that saying somebody in the chat knows what i'm talking about like she'll treat blank blank
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blank she'll treat you like a fan chat hello help me out chat help a brother out
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it's like good to feel validated but when there's that one guy that you're really trying to take
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interest in if he's not taking similar interests you're like okay well i have all these other
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options why am i going to chase after this one person that's not giving me the same amount of
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attention that i'm giving him like am i wrong to say that as to why i feel like the woman shouldn't
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be simping more than the man like it should just be equal i think on the other way around if a guy
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had like interest in five different girls four are like on their knees like oh my god like obsessed
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with that with him and there's one that's like yeah you're cool but like that's usually the one
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i think he's gonna be drawn to that like fifth girl that's that's usually what i want but what
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I'm saying is like if if I know that like open the door please go ahead continue oh if I if I
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know that someone out there is going to give me the attention that I'm looking for but this one
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guy that is claiming they're interested in me and that wants to pursue me is not giving me the
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attention or the interest that I feel like I deserve why would I keep letting him you know
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what i mean like keep me dangling you know because to me if you're not giving me that interest you're
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just keeping me down like that's not fair no now you shouldn't you shouldn't be you should as the
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guy if she's interested in you that should be reciprocated um you shouldn't be playing some
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like hot or cold game you shouldn't be playing around with her emotions you can still demonstrate
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that you're interested in the woman without it devolving to you being a sucker simp i guess
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that's what i'm trying to get at okay like i think women can do a thing where they're gushing over a
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man but if a man is like gushing over you and he's like oh my god i really like you oh my god
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like that's uh that's no like the man has to be like yeah you're hot
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but it can't be this like the man can't have like this sort of a not obsessive but he can't like
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yearn i don't think the man needs to be shouldn't yearn for you like he should find you attractive
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he can even tell you that but it needs to be from this place where it's not like
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if he loses you it shouldn't matter okay but why do so many women fall for the love bombing then
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because it feels good well so the love bombing thing i think is women want not all the time but
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women want relationships so if a woman and by the way this is a criticism i have of men
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if the woman wants a relationship it the love bombing is essentially this guy is sort of
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misrepresenting his long-term intentions for the woman and it might be like oh my god i'm so into
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you i i love you i mean love bombing um and uh so i i would say that that's wrong is it though
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to love bomb well so no no i mean i agree that it's wrong but women fall for it so i think
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Well, yeah, we're going to crack open the doors a bit more.
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is women's fault well yeah okay so you wait your question was why like if a girl love bombs a guy
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i think guys are a little bit more avoidance so they'll be like yeah whereas right a guy that
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loves bombs a girl they'll be more into it well i think here's my idea here so if the guy really
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likes the girl it can go one of both ways either yes it can work for him because he really likes
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her he's already like determined that he'd she's attractive and he'd want a relationship with her
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sometimes it can be like too intense where it's like whoa stalker vibes yeah but if he otherwise
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it depends the degree of the love bombing right but like you gotta understand a lot of guys
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deal with you for pussy and that's all they want so when you're love bombing
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they don't want a relationship with you they just want pussy so that's why love bombing is going to
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be off-putting uh to certain men you're dealing with because they don't want anything else besides
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sex they just want a casual sexual relationship hey sometimes women want casual sexual relationships
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but i would say there's a difference here so for a guy to fuck y'all for a guy to have sex with you
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guys you could okay i here's my perspective in order for a man to have sex with a woman
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well hold on let me flip that in order for a woman to have sex with a man he his baseline
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in terms of looks he's at least attractive enough to be in a relationship with
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like if you're gonna fuck a guy baseline he's at least good looking enough you would like boyfriend
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you would be in a relationship with him oftentimes it's like for example let's say a girl only wants
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a relationship but she's like either meets a guy who's really attractive or i don't know she's just
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looking for a hookup she's not just gonna a girl who's just trying to get some dick like a girl
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who's just trying to get laid she's not gonna go because dick is easy dick is abundant she's not
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just gonna go to like the easiest option which can which would technically i suppose be the
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a less attractive guy or the first guy when a girl's just trying to get some dick
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she goes in the opposite direction she's like well if i'm just gonna fuck i'm gonna make sure
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the guy's really attractive physically generally speaking yep so women work in like this sort of
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opposite way that men work so like if say you're a woman who primarily wants a relationship
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but it's a celebrity and he's really good looking i'll fuck him i'll fuck him
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and maybe that's all you get right you'll break your rule if the guy's hot enough men if we're
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just trying to get some pussy but we don't we don't want the relationship we'll fuck a girl
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that just on her looks alone we would never be in a relationship with her like we will have sex
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with women that she could be fucking amazing personality the other things we care about
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but we would never date her because she's fat or because she her face is not attractive
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but we'll fuck her women don't do that women typically don't do that like well so in other
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words we will fuck women we're not even all that attracted to physically like just to get some
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pussy and so but for y'all women just to repeat the point for you to have sex with a guy across
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the line whether it's relationship or just a casual thing he has to be at well i guess it's
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just for casual to have sex with a guy as a woman he has to be at least attractive enough you would
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date the guy be in a relationship with him personally not me so just to be clear for you
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when it comes to casual sex you fuck ugly dudes but then necessarily ugly but it just i like
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it can work for that but like i would probably probably be a little ashamed to be like hey this
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is my man you know like it can be attractive for whatever's going on but like sometimes it might be
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a little bit of a height thing or just uh personality or something no but it's i don't
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know it's just like they're fine but if he's my man i'm like nah i wouldn't see that see i feel
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like i'm the opposite like if i'm gonna if i'm gonna have sex with you this is someone that i
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would i see myself being with at least to some extent like i'm not going to just have sex with
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someone to just have sex with someone because at that point what's the point i can just wait for
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the person that i'm attracted to whether you think he's ugly like i don't i've dated plenty
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of guys and my friends are like bro this guy is hideous i'm like okay to you it's not them you
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know right so but i just feel like i'm not going to get into bed with someone that like i'm not
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remotely at least attracted to in terms of bringing them around other people because then
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it's like yeah i think it's maybe like right in the beginning i'm like sure and then i get to know
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then i'm like yeah well that's different that's different like people's personalities are ugly
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but like i mean i just feel like if you're gonna lay in bed with someone that you're not
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you know like confident enough to even show someone a picture it's like are you really
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doing it to that extent but it's just like sometimes you get to know them and you're like
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yeah no right yeah person people's personality sucks all the time but like looks wise yeah
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Now, look, sometimes women do charity, you know, every once in a while.
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But as a general principle, like, again, men, they'll have sex with women that, like, they've already, I don't care, like, what else there is about you, they've already, men will put you in a category.
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there's and it can be just off the basis of looks there's like i'll have sex with her
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but i would never long-term date her because of her looks okay but pussy is a bit like pizza
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it's hard to fuck up pizza you know like most pizza is good pizza like it's there's good there's
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better pizza there's worse pizza but it's still fucking i mean it's really hard to fuck pizza up
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so most pussy is good pussy not all dick is good dick let me tell you that much not all dick is
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good so have you tried have i tried dick no how do you know that but he knows i mean i bro well
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i mean for example women uh frequent complaint from women is that they don't orgasm during sex
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Like, to be good in bed as a man, that takes a bit more skill.
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And I, at least from my perspective, I mean, I like to think I'm just to be humbled.
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And I like to think I could have great sex with a virgin
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These chicks that want to be choked and shit
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i'm at the end of i've given all the dick i she's deeper brian i'm sorry there's no more dick
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i don't have any more dick what do you want me to do i can't go there's no more dick together
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i wonder if they're just saying that like because they hear it like on pornography or like i don't
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like harder either if they tell me to go harder i'm like are you shaming women i got a bad sex
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i got a bad back am i shaming no well i sort of yes i am i don't know some of y'all women
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So I do think there's an aspect of female sexuality
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They just all of a sudden wanted to be choked or something.
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If she asks nicely, I might, you know, I'll do a limp-wristed choke.
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Might do a little hand on the neck for novelty.
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They just all want to be choked all of a sudden.
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i am not catching a case i am not killing a woman i ain't trying to kill a woman for her
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sexual gratification okay here how about this i'll spill some tea one thing i'll spill some
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fucking tea maybe you guys are gonna laugh at me i actually i can't believe i'm fucking saying this
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but why not i actually don't like rough sex all that much now look i can fucking you can pull her
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hair spank her a little bit talking her ear whatever but when i say rough sex i don't like
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i don't like i don't like that shit like what the jackhammer get the fuck get out of here with that
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how about like gentle a little more gentle you know so cute sensual a little more gentle sex i
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don't know i'm not trying like it doesn't even feel good like the jackhammer like i want
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actually I'm not going to get too detailed but like
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if she just be throwing it back all fucking crazy
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So he's going to be like, this is a new experience.
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I am saying, though, if you do have any cash and if you just want to give it to me just because, I'll take it.
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Because I feel like women, not even just sex workers, women have the experience of men just give you guys shit, kind of.
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Men will just like, and it might not even be a guy who you're dating.
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Like, I've heard, look, I'm sure it maybe doesn't happen all the time.
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Maybe if you're really hot, it happens more often.
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But, like, women will be like, oh, I was at the gas station the other day and this guy just filled up my tank for me.
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an opportunity because i'm a nice guy oh i did this if if you guys want to like do a reverse
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simp so you if you have any cash on you i'll take canadian dollars um well yeah if you guys have any
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cash maybe just give it to me but we're not simping over you at all no but not i know you
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guys aren't i know you guys don't want to have sex with me after the trip was here was too expensive
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but it's right but i'm saying if you guys just as a novelty like tea tea i can't find some bucks
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on the podcast you know if like a like a oh that was funny like i gave him money on the show like
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how is that funny that to men in our life women are not simping to the same degree that men are
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is it a preference is it a legitimate preference a hundred percent okay a hundred percent now look
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it's not a deal breaker if she's gotten any but she's gonna you know like for example a short guy
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right any like women will like if he's rich you know she he's short but he's rich and he's got
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lethal face card like she'll date a short guy oh but for me if she's got in any labia like she's
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gotta make up for it and i'll if the bigger the bigger the labia she gets passes wow if she's got
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a giant labia like i'll let something slide oh damn oh like sexually or like relationship
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Okay, so I have to be looking at the fucking Instagram for, I mean, maybe you can pull up the messages.
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Do you know how to pull up the messages, Nathan?
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I guess I'll leave it for a bit, but if she's not, wait, wait.
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Maybe a mod on Twitch can do a prediction thing or whatever.
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I know she said she wanted to leave like 10 or whatever.
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what did she what did sorry what does she need uh i don't think she loves it on the podcast
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oh okay yeah i heard it okay that's fine disregard what were we talking about is it
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locked labia size yeah we're measuring tiffany is locked yeah okay you said like labia like big
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labia oh right big big labia and like you had to make up for it if you didn't yeah so oh you
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were letting stuff like for example right like a guy let's say his dick is either small or he's
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not good with like intercourse sex you might say oh he's got to make up for it with like oral sex
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or some shit or he's got to be rich or he's got to be really funny or have a really good personality
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so yeah a woman who she's got to make up for it you know if she doesn't she's got to like get me
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gifts and she's gotta you know take me on nice dates and she's gotta yeah but isn't that preference
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uncommon because i feel like most girls are doing like surgeries to get it like it's so sad yeah
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it is true though he's gonna ask how you like like i didn't like okay so just like first of all i
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never heard of this i'm just wondering like is this something that you see like in porn and like
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figure it out or is it just experience but if it's not average then statistically maybe
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like to figure this out without you know they're like secondhand like through firsthand experience
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that's wait with okay what out so okay so yeah so if a big labia is statistically not common
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you know what well so i'm actually not sure i don't know if they've done a study on this
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but i think they estimate it's about 50 50 okay that's going to be my question yeah well even i
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didn't know if you guys are down to do a little research we could okay show of hands who has who
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has an audi there's a what audi labia oh labia i don't i don't know oh shit yes maybe you don't
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know i don't know i don't know i don't can't france no i don't i haven't seen like other
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people wait so you guys don't know what i'm talking no i don't know like i don't know if
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it's no i haven't i haven't any i know average or not you haven't any yes okay three some off
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the table okay good i don't want to three some anyways i get it whatever yeah whatever was after
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I'm like the only guy talking about this shit.
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it is um so the old thing here was well if you like this is the old like in the 70s 80s 90s
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the language about this was like in the porn magazines and shit they would only show women
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with innies right right but now like with the internet that that changed because there's
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by the way if i'm in a relationship i don't watch porn just saying nice that's a good thing
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i have that's a good thing i'm not gonna sit here and lie i have watched porn
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But I'm not like some gooner where it's like I'm looking at that shit all day, you know.
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You use it as a tool if you're single, you know, look, hey, whatever, people masturbate.
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But, yeah, there's definitely women in porn who have outies.
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Why didn't you guys get me any fucking gifts?
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I didn't know how old you are, so I didn't know it was your birthday.
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You're a private person, besides being on here.
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I don't know if you guys are familiar with my podcast.
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No, but, like, didn't you say, like, earlier that you were a virgin?
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I know you said that you were talking about sex earlier.
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I have had sex with at least one woman one time.
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How did we get on to the big labia thing, though?
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I don't think anyone was talking about their labia.
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So now that I showed you the photo, show of hands, who has an Audi?
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It doesn't seem like retardé when you say that.
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So, you know, this often comes up in age gap conversations where, you know, it's, say, a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old.
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Apparently, and I've been hearing this rebuttal of 25, prefrontal cortex.
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Apparently, I just learned about this the other day.
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Make it a little bigger, like control, mouse wheel, zoom in.
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Myth or 25-year-old brain myth is the claim that the human brain,
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particularly the prefrontal cortex, reaches an adult-level maturity
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This myth occasionally has other numbers cited, but 25 is by far the most commonly occurring.
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Teen brain theory is the pseudoscientific theory based on this myth.
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The myth suggests that a person does not have a full adult capacity or maturity until this age threshold is achieved.
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it has been attributed to various figures not notably j guided and then the next paragraph
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it has been shown that the prefrontal cortex does prune gray matter with age but these changes are
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not conclusively linked with better cognitive function or a higher level of socio-emotional
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maturity it is widely quoted on social media outlets usually in debates regarding legal age
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limits or youth behavior age gap arguments fucking defeated eternally defeated 25 prefrontal cortex
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done myth debunked fake news misinformation fake science bullshit pseudoscience boom
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but that's on wikipedia so okay well since i guess anyone could have just wrote that since
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we're talking about age gap relationships now that it was recently my birthday you know i'm
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getting older um you know but i'm look you know i'll look i've dated women older than me when i
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was 33 i dated a 44 year old in my defense she was wasian i rest my case thank you but uh
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you know because asian people age okay never mind like you know they look like she could have
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totally been like 34 no wait hold on no that's too nice she could have passed for like a 36 37
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year old she wasn't she was 44 wajian okay very beautiful woman that's great beautiful woman
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i wonder what she's up to now you like wajians yeah i was gonna say i think you like well no
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look hey i like i like white women i like wajian women i like asian women i like latino women i
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like indigenous women i like women what are the wait did i say latina yes white yeah yep so more
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dark where's the where's the black girl black uh excuse me oh she's in the bathroom i was just
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gonna say i feel like black women i would black women just don't want to date me because i'm too
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white like when i say white i don't mean my it well it is my skin color like i'm very pale but
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it's also my behavior like i'm not i feel like i don't know like a a black woman needs like a
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marvin gay type they have no idea i don't even know what i'm talking about i don't know it
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depends a black woman needs like you know a black man i don't know what i'm fucking
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hey look a black look black women you can date white guy date whoever you want date who you want
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It would be my preference if my kids are white, though.
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I just thought, yeah, it would have been good enough.
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One is you kind of want a kid who looks like you.
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And I think that would, whether consciously or subconsciously, unconsciously, whatever,
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Because you feel a bigger pull towards, like, I don't know.
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I'm having difficulty actually articulating this.
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but i do think like there is a stronger potential all right i gotta ask the chat chat help me out
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with this one help me out with this one because i know the argument's there help me out with the
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help me out chat what's the argument but they might resemble you more in like personality or
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something you know that's true and they'll look like your partner which you love so i don't know
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it's like i don't know so i think it's a thing in that like i don't know what research confirmed
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this but that when babies are born a lot of times they look more like their father so like
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you know evolutionary narrowly wise the father doesn't abandon their kid thinking that oh this
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isn't my kid but that's not like a race thing that's well i think i mean this is like super
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minor whoa wait like it's a very small thing but i think that from and this is a sad thing in
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society but i've heard stories of men who are on airplanes with their biological children
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and like people and the mom's not there people will see a father with a young daughter young son
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and like have a questioning attitude towards it or be like is this a predator
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yeah and so and so again this is a very like sort of maybe extreme example this isn't the central
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reason but there is like a narrative in society like i've heard men who i've heard men who are
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at the the park with their daughter or son alone it's their fucking kid like what's wrong with that
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but but people will be more suspicious of it right like adult man with a toddler or with a
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young kid they're like a man at the park people will like say the kid's running over there and
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i'm sitting over here at the bench at the park people will look at that and be like
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it's a fucking creep he's a predator and so this might be super small but i feel like
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if your kid and it's a terrible state of affairs that this is the case
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if the kid matches your race there's less of a suspicion but if i'm like the kid looks asian
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people are more likely to jump to unfortunate conclusions now that's very minor though that's
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super minor like i it wouldn't be like well that wouldn't be the like the main reason well
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she's asian i can't impregnate her because down the road some dipshit at the park might think
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right yeah i'm a predator or something no that's stupid but um i guess that's maybe a component of
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it i think i don't know uh what's the other reason i forgot the other reason i don't know
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are we talking about race a little bit okay what about exactly oh just like that it's okay to have
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racial dating preferences or wanting your kid to like be your race or whatever i think that's fine
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i get a lot of backlash for the men that i date because i date white men and i think my friends
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hate it oh i mean look if people can have racial dating preferences i think it's fine i've heard
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black men black men get flack when they're dating white women yeah like the black women get real
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defensive because i think uh black women are the most likely to want to date within their race
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right generally speaking yeah no it's true that's why i get so much backlash like they're like damn
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you're taking our men like whereas like women uh like asian women for example uh they're they're
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more open to dating like white men for example they're more open to dating outside their race
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whereas like and this is studies you know it's not just assumptions whereas black women have a
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I kind of want to wait to get into the questionnaire until she's back
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So I guess I'm going to wait on the questionnaire for a bit
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I'm going to get into some of the pre-show notes
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yeah true true oh well it took me so long i just figured i'd leave any yeah i i'm wagering it's
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probably hey but you know what never say never okay who do we start with brooke brooke which
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one which one there's two oh shit okay two brooks two taylors yeah you so you don't do only fans
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anymore correct did you used to do boy girl content just yeah just me and one of the guys
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Like, there were or are videos of you on the internet, and you were fucking a man?
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Yes, but they were only with guys that I had dated.
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You said your ex was the biggest gaslighter you've ever met in your life, and he cheated on you.
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So, when you say gaslighter, how would he gaslight you?
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well he would uh i would confront him about uh hanging out with an ex alone at night and he said
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well my mom died and she just wanted to comfort me um and stuff like that but i was like that's
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like that's the stuff that you wouldn't do like in a relationship and i was like how would you feel
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if i went to see my ex you know because something happened he was like i'd break up with you and i
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was like exactly so double standard yeah it's a double standard and he did that multiple times
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and um being like late and stuff like i didn't want to be late all right but he would always
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be late for everything and i was just trying to help him be on time but he would just yell at me
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and yeah there's just a lot of things like that uh and then you let's see you dated a deadbeat
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father that's the same guy oh same guy so he had a kid yes okay yes and with the six months that we
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did get we were together he only saw him twice and he refused to go to court to fight for his son
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because um of his heritage heritage nigerian he's like nigerians don't go to court and i was like
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but that's your son he's like still oh they don't go to court
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i was like they don't have a court system in nigeria they just dual or some shit i had no
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clue i don't know uh oh question who here has plastic surgery
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what do you have uh breast nose nose okay oh i guess super vulnerable uh i had a
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a mini tummy tuck because i had a c-section oh okay yeah repaired it okay um i guess quick
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question on the deadbeat father thing uh who just curious who here is pro-choice
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yeah do i want to i don't know if i want to do the abortion thing uh pro-life who's pro-life
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I think, now look, maybe we should, should we categorize women who get abortions as deadbeat mothers?
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let's say a man who was inclined to be a deadbeat what if he had an exit from preventing his dead
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beatness which was murdering the kid well abortion isn't murder so well i mean then we can get into
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when does life begin it is murder i would argue life begins at conception yeah well how about
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this if abortion uh if a woman aborts her child a day before she otherwise gives birth okay let's
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be realistic but i i understand that that's super rare but you can't no no i understand no but under
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well there's some abortion advocates not all but there are some many abortion advocates might say
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well uh you know i don't know what is it uh viability or 12 weeks 16 weeks 18 weeks whatever
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it is right but my question is when does life begin is it when the child has exited the womb
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when the heartbeat is detected oh when the heartbeat okay so when the heartbeat so after
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the heartbeat the woman can't get an abortion i would say yes well in canada that's the law
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i would say yes she's not coming back what a fucking okay what's the what's the reason that's
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fucking scummy what's the reason what was her what was her deal tiffany
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she has a medical thing coming on you saw what like you saw it
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yeah so what's the proof what's the proof is there any proof or is she just her words
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I guess there's enough proof, but she has infections.
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All right, I'm going to do musical chairs here a little bit.
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I think I'm maybe scoot that chair in a little bit
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let me have both of you scoot into the table
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side no so scoot this way scoot that way a little bit actually i don't have that much space uh she's
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gonna scoot over just a tad uh yeah that's pretty scummy i guess whatever uh
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medical i don't believe it i don't whatever okay anyways back to the show i'm not gonna let it
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uh burn any time pasty george uh here let me see if it's in i need you to scoot in so you're in
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frame on center zoom you look center zoom i need you in frame so you're on camera okay so like that
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means scooting in and scooting it might mean scooting that way a little bit you need me to
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scoot this way all right maybe just good posture let me have you move the microphone a little bit
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all right i think that'll do that should be good uh all right i think that looks good okay
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hmm i might sorry guys it's just normally we don't have fucking walk-offs like
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well quite like this i almost might want to shift the microphones um
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no it's probably fine okay where were we we're talking oh abortion okay um so against
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so life begins at heartbeat yes I think we agreed on that okay in any case um do you think
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let's say a guy didn't want to pay child support do you think a man prior to the heartbeat or
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whatever the man should be able to like uh force an abortion no but I do think that if a woman goes
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through with having a baby after the man said he didn't want it I don't think she should put
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the blame on him and i know that's very controversial but like it takes two to tango
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i think they should also have some type of say not what i do with like my body but i shouldn't
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have to expect him to pay if he said that he didn't want it i mean that's that's great but
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most women are not as noble as you are and regardless of the man's desire or lack of
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desire to have the children uh a lot of women are going to force a man to pay child support
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uh look some men are actually like don't have the income to even pay for it uh you were dealing with
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a guy who i i mean it is what it is but a woman reserves the right at any moment within the first
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18 or even 21 years to basically force a man into being a pay pig, basically. So a woman can get an
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abortion for no reason, any reason. One of the reasons a woman might want an abortion, again,
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there's no even requirement to get an abortion. You don't have to provide a reason. But one of
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the reasons would be, I'm not in a place in my life where I'm ready to have a child. I'm not
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financially in a place in my life where I want to have a child. So a woman might be able to
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murder her unborn baby because she's not financially ready. So why do we call men
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deadbeats who don't, like women can escape responsibility. A woman could get an abortion
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for financial reasons. We should call them deadbeats. They should be deadbeats. If we're
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gonna call guys deadbeats we should call the women deadbeats i think no i think a woman would be more
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of a deadbeat if she does have the kid and then doesn't take care of it right then like yeah so
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you think just to be clear it's worse to have the kid then not take care of it and then put him in
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the system and stuff yeah i think so i agree okay so it's well okay so you're saying worse to have
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the kid well the kid's dead if she gets the abortion depending on when she gets the abortion
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concept well i mean my position would be conception yeah but ours is hard yeah okay but
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sometimes do women get abortions beyond heartbeat i don't know what the laws yeah but like they're
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shitty people no but if it's afterwards from a legal point of view it has to there needs to be
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some kind of problem with the child like um and then you can take that decision if it's past that
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three months then you cannot yeah what about the mother because i know like i about like um
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like if the birth or like the uh the pregnancy uh causes the mother loss of life yeah that's fine
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yeah yeah even people who are against abortion if life of the mother is at risk then abortion
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is acceptable that's not even uh right especially if she already has children obviously she needs
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to be there for those children that are already alive right yeah that's one of the few you're
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gonna you're gonna struggle to find anybody who's pro-life who says if it is a genuine case of life
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of the mother that they're against uh the abortion in that instance bro really okay the mom they're
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like okay well uh yeah the mom has to die no like most people majority of people who are pro-life
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are fine with life of the mother although that's pretty it's pretty rare um well i guess my
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question is then for those who here just show of hands again who here is pro-choice pro-choice
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pro-choice pro-choice pro-choice do you think men should have to pay child support
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i said my stance on that okay i'm i guess i'm asking the other panelists who raised their
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hands i mean it's the law so just okay so what's stopping us from passing laws from outlawing
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abortion it's the law well the well in canada the law is that abortion is legal so okay but
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so i understand perhaps it's currently yes it is currently the law that there's no state that i'm
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aware of at least in the united states i assume it's the case in canada men can't escape uh their
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child support obligation legally speaking if they want to uh so question is though uh should that be
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a law i i get that it is a law should men if they don't want to like if they don't okay here's an
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example i'm dating a girl for i don't know fuck it it's a one-night stand sometimes it happens the
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girl gets pregnant she wants to keep it i thought we were just having fun she told me she was on
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birth control oops had no intention of getting her pregnant no intention of having a child
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should i escape having to pay child support no wait no yeah no no i shouldn't be able to
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didn't you say mention have to pay child support no if they said that they if i was with someone
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and they and i said oh i'm pregnant and they're like look i don't want a baby and i say you know
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what i do i'm keeping it and they leave i don't think it's his responsibility he did but now this
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is a one night stand you you know what you're doing if you're having unprotected sex and you
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know ejaculating in someone you can't escape that you're also part of this problem wait this is
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completely contradictory he should be paying then that's but that but he never said he didn't want a
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baby is what i'm saying like if what if he had a one either way it doesn't matter what if he verbally
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says it he's still responsible that's completely incoherent so before i fuck a woman she has to
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tell me ahead of time that she would get an abortion if she doesn't tell me that she's pro
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like let's say we're most one night stands by the way you talk about the abortion topic before you
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fuck her um if she doesn't disclose to me that she wants to abort an unwanted baby she has to
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keep the baby i didn't say that but i'm confused this is contradictory to your previously stated
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thing where you said if the man doesn't want to blah blah blah he shouldn't have to pay child
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support do i have that correct right but i just asked a completely different example i in my
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opinion i think it's two different scenarios so what were the two scenarios one you're in a
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relationship right that's what i'm saying like if i'm in a relationship with someone we are doing
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whatever we're doing i get pregnant i say i want to keep it he says he doesn't i shouldn't then
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put the blame on him if i have a one night stand though that's like i don't know if he wants to
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have this baby or not that's so incoherent i'm sorry that makes no sense i really don't think
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that so you're saying in the one night stand example yes the man should pay for the child
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support right but not in a relationship wait that makes no wouldn't it like shouldn't you
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give the, it seems like you would be more inclined to give the escape to the, like if you're in a
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relationship with a girl and you're like regularly engaging in sex, this seems like it's almost
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more of a, I don't know if this is the right framing, more of a consent to the risk of her
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getting pregnant than just a one night stand. Like if you're dating somebody, like maybe down
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the road i'm assuming if it's a serious relationship there is the potential future prospect that you
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would want to have children together if you're some frat boy at fucking toronto university or
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some bullshit ottawa university i don't know if they've got sororities and fraternities up there
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and you're just fucking it's a drunken hookup there's no intention there to get anybody pregnant
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or have a kid i i mean look the the escape arguably if we're gonna live in a pro-choice
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society men should have an escape and i don't you don't need to disclose it here's my standard
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if if in any country or state where a woman can get an abortion at any moment the guy should not
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have any responsibility to that child if he wants the man should always be able to escape he should
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never have to pay child support in a country where women can get abortions. The escape is to not be
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there physically or involved in the child's life, but the responsibility is to contribute
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financially. Well, actually, this is completely backwards. I would argue that the greater benefit
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for the child would not be, let's say you don't have the financial capability, the greater benefit
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it to the child would actually to be in the child's life men are not just atm machines i'm saying this
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is what happens and like this like guys who do a hookup or something and the girl decides to keep
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it he has the choice to be involved or not but from a like so you you are correct in the sense
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that men can escape a parental responsibility so but not a financial one the court can't like uh
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You can't be forced, at least in the United States.
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I'm pretty sure in most places the court can't be like, okay, you're going to be a present father.
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But financially, oh, they can fuck you financially for sure.
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I understand that the court can't be like, okay, you're going to have custody of the kid.
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i'm talking financially i'm when i say child support i'm talking about money yeah that's
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what i'm saying so they have the choice to be involved or not uh like like they will never be
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like obliged to have the kid two days a week or anything right i'm talking about money yeah but
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men shouldn't have to pay money any money at all or just through the courts so a man hold on a man
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can voluntarily under this idea the man could voluntarily be like well i'm willing to give you
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this much money but say the man doesn't want to his body his choice because really what's happening
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here is if the court well exactly his body his choice so he physically it doesn't have to be
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there but no no no no so uh labor a man has a right to the fruits of his labor and when the
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government says we're taking 20 percent of what you make you're essentially taking 20 percent
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of his labor and in fact sometimes i believe doing it with tax in fact not only that there's a level
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of coercion that occurs here because say the man doesn't have a job and he just chooses to
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be a bum the court uh there's a specific term for this it's evading me the court can still um
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there's a word for maybe somebody in the chat knows it's like let's say you used to work but
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you're no longer working the court can be like well you used to do this job and you were making
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this much money inferred wait inferred ability wait chat it's like inferred income maybe it's
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Child support, inferred income, some shit like that.
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It's an estimated amount of money a court assigns a parent based on what they could be earning rather than what they actually report.
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So even if you don't have a job, even if you're not making money, the court can still be like, you owe this much money.
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I don't know the laws in Canada, but in the United States at least, and maybe it is the
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In the United States, one of the remedies that the court system has, if you're either
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not paying all of the child support or not paying it at all, look, and to be fair, they
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It's like, okay, you missed one payment, you're going straight to jail.
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But over time, I don't know what the, you know, it could be months, maybe longer.
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they will put you in jail for failure to pay child support there's no other debt that you can owe
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where you can ever go to jail for not paying the debt only in this way like for example in the in
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the past if you owed a debt to a company there were things called debtors prisons where you
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could literally if you owed somebody money and either you just couldn't pay it or you willfully
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didn't want to pay it you could go to jail you could go to prison we did away with that because
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we're like, that's wrong. That's immoral. However, not when it comes to men and child support.
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So I guess what I'm trying to get here is, um, the, uh, the courts can definitely force men
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through coercion. Okay. You don't pay child support. We're going to put you in jail.
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Typically people are averse to going to jail. Um, and so there is like a coercive level there.
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There is a forcing of it, but also it's like, what if I just don't want to pay?
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These motherfuckers, these women he's fucking.
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They be digging through the trash for the condom.
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And they be dumping the fucking condom jizz in their pussy.
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Now look, most unplanned pregnancies, I'm not saying that they're, the majority of unplanned
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pregnancies it's all consensual i don't think there's deception going on they're just fucking
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accidents happen and i would but i would say in those situations no the man shouldn't have to pay
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in any situation i think it's a discussion to have between both parties but so okay the woman has a
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kid and uh oh it's hard raising kids especially as a single mom she's gonna want that money more
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likely than not so when it's a discussion and i say i'm not fucking paying you and she says oh
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really okay boom go to the court the court forces you women use the government for violence against
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men the government allows them to so the government what do you mean like i'm not saying it's right
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but i'm just saying the government gives them that option so is it really the woman's fault or is it
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the government's fault for allowing that to be an option so uh well hold on women are not forced to
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go to the state they're not forced to go to the government to do this so yes like the woman could
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have a kid and that kid could reach 18 and she never went to the court system so yes it is the
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woman's fault so what about a situation where it's a marriage wife and husband they have a kid
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yeah few years into that the dad leaves and now all of the bird the financial burden at least in
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the situation like we're talking about is on the mom is it wrong if the mother goes to like let's
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but also let's say like she reached out saying like hey you might not want to be here you might
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not want to be in the life like but i still need you financially in this case and he says no now
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is it wrong if she goes and says okay well i need help and he's not going to help me so i need you
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to force it to help me is that wrong well you have to remember the framework of my anti-child
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support stance the framework is in a world where women can uh get abortions right so look my true
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underlying position is that if you do get a woman pregnant even if you didn't intend for it i do
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think you have a duty to and it's your kid you do have a duty to that child to support it at minimum
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financially that's my true position okay however in a world where women get an escape men should
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get look if you guys believe in equality men should get an escape too but they do get an
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escape they don't get an escape a physical one yeah no no men do not get an escape i'm talking
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about child support i'm talking about the financial thing the financial component if women can get an
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abortion, men should have an ability to escape the financial burden and duty. Simple as that.
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Yeah, I personally, I wouldn't have a child with a man who does not want to be there, so it's hard
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to have an actual stance, but I know some women will do it on their own. I mean, you've never
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dated a guy who, in that moment while dating you, if you were to get pregnant, he wouldn't want to
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have the kid it's just not i'm not at a place where i want kids right now so it's hard to
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hard to say okay again though look if dave chapelle puts it like this
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if when if women can murder their child a man should at least be able to abandon it
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once again physically not being there okay but no i'm talking yes i'm talking about money
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well i disagree it's finance but hold on so can women so okay let's say the woman has no health
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issues the woman uh the reason the woman wants to get the abortion is i don't want to spend money
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on the kid and that's it she would be okay going through the pregnancy and all that
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Are you okay with her getting an abortion?
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girl was fucking her boyfriend girl fucked a guy it was consensual
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unintended pregnancy she's not ready to have the kid that's it that's 99 of abortions i think
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that's fair if you're not ready in your life to support and take care of a child why i have no
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but how about let me ask you this go ahead a woman is a billionaire okay a woman is a billionaire
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and she has the means to have a kid in fact she's already had one kid and she plans to have other
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kids in the future but she's decided that she doesn't want to have this kid quite now can she
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get an abortion her body her choice are you fine with her getting an abortion but she has the
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financial means to have the kid she's had the kid before she wants a kid in the future but she
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doesn't want to do it right now well maybe she's in a toxic relationship and she doesn't want to
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have to i didn't well i didn't grant that the relationship is fine she's being selfish that's
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your opinion right so i'd rather a woman be selfish than put a child in the world and
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right not my i guess my argument here is we can create a scenario where it's so unfair for the
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man but in a world where there's abortions i would argue that a man who already has kid or a man
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kids or one kid or a man who wants kids in the future and a man who's rich a man who makes
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billions of dollars a year but he doesn't want to pay child support even though it won't it won't
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impact his life it won't he's not going to be financially in a bad place i'm actually completely
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okay with him refusing to want to pay child support really if he doesn't want to in the
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same way that women if they don't want kids they can end the life of an unborn child
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i'll stick to my stance of what i said that it's okay for them to not be there physically but
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financially yeah you just have to wrap it up well say that to women then
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yeah i feel like they if you don't want a kid you probably should have yeah like
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been smart about it but even if a woman was being a retard uh you would still
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you would still let her get an abortion regardless of how uh regardless of how
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um irresponsible she was being yeah because i don't think it's fair for a child to come in
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this world and not have like stable and loving parents but once a child has already been created
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is it better to let them come into a but they're not difficult well they are created uh better to
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come into a difficult world or should we just kill them like for example let's say your parents are
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broke they're broke and maybe they got issues or whatever and they're divorced and they split up
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before the child's even born should we abort the kid because they might have a difficult life
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if they want the kid then they should have the kid okay how about a kid that was is already alive
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but the parents are broke and they have no money and they're divorcing should we kill the kid no
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it's already alive yeah that's already alive no okay so because life will be bad for the kid
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i don't think that is justification we're talking before a heartbeat here still
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okay well ultimately though i think it's interesting that when it comes to men's
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reproductive rights you guys are very much taking on the abortion uh anti-abortionist
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anti-abortion position it's interesting that that sort of duality where for women
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pro-choice for men pro-responsibility so i think we should perhaps reconsider
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if we view men as deadbeat dads well you know in a country where abortion is allowed
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i don't know i think uh men should get an escape i think it does suck to some degree that the guy
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doesn't get as much of a choice than the he has no choice men have zero choice but
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in it would not be okay for if a guy says i want you to have a board an abortion and then choose
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over her body what she does with it so right let me i guess the final question here is
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who do you think is worse what is a greater moral wrong a man who is a deadbeat dad so who refuses
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to pay child support or a woman who gets an abortion what is a greater moral wrong
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so it's more morally wrong to well okay you don't think it's like killing a life or whatever so
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yeah i mean look i just from a from a moral perspective i don't know how you can
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let me ask you this though just as a hypothetical assume i'm correct and i know you disagree but
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assume that it is a life at conception just for the sake of a hypothetical in that instance and
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let's say it is in fact if it is in fact a life what is the greater moral wrong in that paradigm
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the abortion or the guy just not paying child support and being a deadbeat well the this
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alive like they're not feeling pain at this stage right so well so let's say that um somebody is
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under anesthesia and i sneak into the operating room and with a hammer i bash their brains in
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while they're under anesthesia well they can't feel pain right so
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they're talking about this child but you're saying you're saying that the the fetus doesn't
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have consciousness it can't feel pain although this might be disputed so if your argument is
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it's okay to kill people when they're in a state of consciousness or lack of consciousness where
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they can't feel pain then it's okay this is i feel like it's going way far off of the
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it's the same thing talking about financial like the financial aspect of having the abortion when
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the baby is supposedly being born like is that the only reason because if that's the only reason i
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feel like we're going to debate about this forever there's so many other reasons why women get
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abortions yeah like so many well the majority of the reasons why women get abortions is just
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primarily because it's unwanted that's fine but like i can even put myself out there for example
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i was 18 i got pregnant i had an abortion because i didn't even what i basically ended up finding
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ready but no what i basically ended up finding out is that my ex-boyfriend's poking holes in
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condoms so like in that sense I'm wrong because he manipulated me you know what I mean like
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there's so many other reasons to say oh abortion is wrong so because I didn't even know that
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someone was putting their own sperm in me like I shouldn't have that choice that that's what
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I'm trying to get at well so these are two separate things here so that's what I'm asking
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hold on so what your boyfriend did is wrong although anytime you're engaging in sex even
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if you're using condoms, condoms are not a hundred percent effective. So look in a different
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scenario, you could have been using condoms and still gotten pregnant. But the underlying reason,
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again, what he did is wrong. Arguably this should be a crime. Um, but, but, uh, the reason you didn't
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want to have, uh, it was just an unwanted pregnancy. So there wasn't, um, it might fall
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under i mean it might fall i think this could be truth be told i think this would be a form of a
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sex crime sure so i mean you might say under certain you know okay so under certain sex
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crimes that uh there's a greater justification for uh abortion however uh the sex was otherwise
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consensual right um the sex was consensual that specific thing he was doing that was non-consensual
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though right uh and it's clearly wrong like they're not gonna clearly wrong um but ultimately
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it wasn't like um it wasn't life of the mother it wasn't no it would have been as well it wasn't
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like a this falls under some sort of sex crime in my perspective maybe it's not i don't know
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you'd have to find the court case or whatever but it wasn't like a you know more strictly speaking
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to say under that circumstance it's more justified
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uh like focus on like educating people how to not get pregnant and how to like consciously
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not do that there's like there's ways uh yeah and like i think people should be responsible
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yeah yeah okay your thing have you ever seen the videos of the girls going to get abortions
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be like yeah i'm gonna get that baby out of me drinking alcohol have you ever seen those before
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yeah yeah i've seen some of those yeah yeah that's disgusting yeah all right um let's do
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next topic uh let's see here we have we were talking to brooke about deadbeat fathers uh you
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said you're old-fashioned you 100 believe relationships are transactional and it should
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be 50 50 most of the time yes like i understand like obviously shit happens like both sides go
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through like deaths in the family or they might be slacking at some point in life um but um
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um well we'll we're like the other might be like put in 20 percent maybe that's all they can give
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and the other has to put in like the other 80 to like make it work but all right um okay
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um never you'll never complain but you do think it's a gentlemanly for a man to do that
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um what are you talking about pay or communicate properly okay uh tay you said if a man flew you
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out to his state and then ghosted you when you landed yeah that did happen so another guy flew
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you out to where he was instead that did also happen yeah so wait how often do you get was
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this the first time you got flown out yeah and you damn that's wait so you were ghosted that's
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fucked up yeah but you had another hookup no what when i say hookup i mean like for the flight
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like another guy flew you out from where you were at right but that was very situational
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like very situational that was like nothing that wasn't like oh if this doesn't work out
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i have somewhere else to go okay yeah it was as crazy as it sounds it was pure coincidence
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hey you got rescued i guess you said you said you would genuinely defend the type of things
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women post when in a relationship yeah so what do you mean like i know for a fact there's a lot
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of men that i've spoken to in the past they don't like the things that i post um simply because like
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i spend lots of times like at the beach in bikinis or um like modeling in bikinis whatever
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the case may be um and they think like sometimes it's disrespectful which i can understand to a
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certain extent but i'm very upfront and i'm also very giving like forthcoming so if the person i
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was with wanted all my passwords or wanted the password to my phone like i'd be like yeah go
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through my stuff i don't care i'm not doing anything me posting something is for my benefit
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not everybody else's benefit i'm not someone that's like fishing for like i know earlier you
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were saying like okay the women's tactic of men coming to them might be posting but like that's
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not everybody's and it's not mine just that's what i like you know women women can walk on stage you
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know victoria's secret and lingerie and that's okay because that's their job and they're getting
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paid to do it but god forbid you know i mean just a little girl from new jersey i'm not but that's
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what i'm saying like god forbid a little girl from new jersey just wanted to do it just because
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it's wrong like because i'm not getting paid for it's not my job so i don't really see how
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you know there's really much of a difference besides money well i suppose it depends what
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kind of relationship dynamic you want if you want a more traditional dynamic i think within the
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purview of a traditional dynamic uh men are going to prioritize a woman being modest like modesty
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and dress i don't know if you're christian but uh if you're dating a christian guy you're a christian
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whatever there's a component of christianity that relates to modesty are you christian i'm not
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religious no well that's fine uh and look there's obviously all kinds of different dynamics out
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there however i would say if you're a woman and you want more traditional treatment from a guy
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i think it's fair uh that the woman holds up her end of the deal of the traditional bargain of the
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traditional exchange and there seems to be this massive push in society where women want traditional
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men, masculine men. They want them to be traditional, do chivalry, uh, you know, pay for
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dates, do X, Y, Z, et cetera. But they don't want to hold up their end of the deal by being
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traditional themselves. So look, you want to be a modern woman, go find yourself a 50, 50 guy.
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You split the bills. Uh, you don't look to him to be taking steps of initiative. You reciprocate
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the initiative uh but i don't know that that's my perspective um i feel like i'm not a or i shouldn't
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say i'm not but i'm not someone that's like oh i need a traditional relationship um as far as like
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modesty goes as you're saying the person the person that wants me for me that likes me and
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that accepts me for me isn't going to care about the little things like posting a picture in bikini
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now if i was like posting a picture in bikini and like engaging in people's comments or no offense
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to those but like having an only fans and stuff like that i would understand why you know they
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would be like oh okay like you don't mean you're you're seeking the male validation you're seeking
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male attention that i would understand but if i'm doing something for me because it makes me happy
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i don't really see the problem now if this is a relationship i really want something that is
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really bothering my significant other and there is a conversation i am open-minded i would you
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know mean change for that person but i don't want to be told what to do i don't want someone to say
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you cannot do this because it's going to make me not want to stop doing that i mean i'm not
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convinced that all things need to be a negotiation and have long-winded conversations i don't know
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why uh maybe sometimes you can just defer to a man's better judgment on this particular issue
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but uh let me ask you two questions is it your preference to date men who play video games are
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you fine with the guy who plays video games i could be but it's not your preference though
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i wouldn't say that i i would once again say it's situational i talked to a guy long distance who
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would rather sit there and play video games all day but then claim that he liked me i feel like
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how do you like me if you don't want to get to know me because you're playing video games all
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day? How could a woman like me if I'm supposed to be, depending on how serious we are, should be
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the most important person in her life, assuming it's quite serious at this point. I'm the one
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she loves. I'm her boyfriend. But she insists on continuing to post bikini photos to Instagram for
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validation of strangers the only validation a woman really ought to get or ought to even need
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is the validation of her partner but if he's not validating me because he's stuck playing video
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games today then then you well hold on what do we mean are you getting are you having sex with
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the guy that there you go there's your validation but you should not be seeking external validation
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look i know it's like maybe i'm a bit older i'm 37 now uh y'all grew up with cell phones y'all
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we're 10 years old on the cell phone doom scrolling and shit whatever uh you know people
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lived lives without needing to blast out to total strangers on the internet what you had for
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breakfast needing to show people all the experiences you're having needing people to see what you look
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like uh total strangers you're even uh friends or even perhaps male pursuers despite you being
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in a relationship people got on people had you know people had uh relationships and it wasn't
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really that a need but now uh people are so attention motivated so validation motivated that
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the thought of uh hunkering down on women's attention drive is just oh my god that's very
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controlling right uh what about porn would you prefer to date a guy who doesn't watch porn in a
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relationship i don't really you don't care no really it doesn't necessarily bother me um
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really okay i'll believe you i'll believe you women find it a form of cheating i do not okay
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all right well hey i mean at least your own consistent i guess i think a lot of women have
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an issue with their boyfriend watching porn in relationships maybe not again not all women but
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i think a lot of women this is a perhaps a bit of a red flag for some of them uh same with the
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video game thing but it seems like here here i am as a man i'm not going to make a defense of men
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who watch porn who play a lot of video games to the point where perhaps it has an impact on the
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relationship or even if it doesn't look even if it's like you could tell your girlfriend look
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we don't fuck every single day i'm gonna watch porn once a week i'm gonna i'm gonna masturbate
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i'm not addicted to it i still think you're beautiful i'm still gonna fuck you
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women will still be upset like nah motherfucker you're not gonna watch porn even if we're having
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sex as much as i want as much as the woman wants to and he's he's not having erectile dysfunction
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he's still in love with her i think a woman a woman will still be like no zero porn i don't
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want you watching porn or at least that's her preference and i think i i mean i don't know i
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think uh that would be my comparison here is that uh i personally haven't had like this issue in a
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relationship but i i know like from other people they say like if your man watches porn whatever
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then he'll pretty much compare the sex to like a porn star and you know then it will go downhill
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from there sure uh i'm trying to think if there was anything else on this topic uh let me do uh
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thank you guys okay uh i don't know i need to get up momentarily uh take it away
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i was gonna say something about the porn um like with my with my younger boys well both of them
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were young i don't want them watching it because i don't want them to have that warped perception
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but i like i said if if like i was in a relationship and let's say like okay i've
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been gone for the past three days you know i mean and my man was like oh you know i'm like what have
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you been up to and he like told me like oh like i watched porn last night i'd be like okay you know
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like to me i wouldn't think anything of it because like in my head it's like oh i'm not there
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you know but now if we were together like i've had friends be like oh you know i mean i didn't
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feel like having sex so my boyfriend yeah put on porn and jacked off next to me i'd be like that's
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like so ick ish you know what i mean like you couldn't just contain yourself for one night
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that that's what you did or like go relieve yourself in the bathroom like but you just
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decided to do that that's where it feels disrespectful exactly because at that point
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it feels like a sex addiction like oh yeah i can't go without it because you don't want to
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have you won't give it to me okay i'm gonna get it in that case i would understand why women are
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like oh i don't want my man to watch porn okay that's a whole other issue like right like having
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a sex addiction like not being able to go without it for like one or like yeah you know like yeah
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you need it every single night yeah like that or having to watch it before you have sex with
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your girlfriend like oh i need to like yeah yeah some people do i mean if it's if it's like agreed
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upon then whatever yeah yeah do your own thing whatever no judgment but yeah if it's like a
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one-sided situation yeah no that's not gonna happen yeah that's that's fair you just seem
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very like chill and i am a very chill i feel like there's just like so many things that like don't
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really bother me until they happen that i'm like oh yeah now it's like oh wait but like i said
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it's not everybody like i try not to put everyone in a bubble you know because just like portrait
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saying before like i'm different you're different she's different we're not the same people so like
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categorizing put everybody in a bubble is like so unfair you know and there's a lot of topics
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where like I'll say and my friends would be like oh that's so wrong and I'm like okay yeah to you
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but you and I are not the same person but it's like it is what it is like my ex had a really
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bad sex addiction and I just like didn't care for it so it was like sorry sex a sex oh my god
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sex addiction addiction thank you and it's just something that I'm not like oh my god I have to
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have sex every day like this is like you know i mean the one thing i'm looking forward to every
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day so it was something that we fought about a lot and it was like to me it was what ultimately
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ended our relationship because it got to the point where like it got violent got physical and i was
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just like i can't do this anymore because it became a problem but it was never about porn it
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was simply just about sex so yeah i can see why it would get crazy but like something as small as
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porn to me isn't like a big to do you know every like everyone's watched it before like
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said it was an addiction fine but like we've all been curious or like wanted to get off one night
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like let me just watch it this is just like a thought I had so like in my mind because I've
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never had experience with this in my mind I'm like thinking like oh if he just wants to watch
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porn sometimes it's fine but what if you find out the porn is very specific and it's not at all like
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yeah like that excited yeah i think i'd be like am i your type or no yeah what are we doing here
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am i wasting my freaking time they have all yeah yeah like you should probably be with someone
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else because it looks like it's you don't want to be with me but no like i have like kind of
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like a personal question which you don't have to answer but i get a lot of backlash because like
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men like if i'm in a relationship they'll like be like oh you don't like you don't like self-pleasure
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and i'll be like no that's not my thing per se you know and they think that's weird so like
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what do you guys think about that like do you think a girl that doesn't self-pleasure
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is weird no yeah like no some just don't aren't just aren't as interested you know and i don't
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i don't even do it a lot like people like like yeah like yeah like you don't really do it i'm
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like no i don't i don't need it all the time no you know i just like i have never like don't do
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I feel like the thought of it makes me uncomfortable so I've never even explored that route but so many
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people are like oh that's what you're missing that's why this happens to you or that's why
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you're depressed I'm like yeah and I get it other women I love it I'm gonna encourage I'm gonna
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support but like for me I feel like other women that backlash that I get from them I'm just like
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you don't get it because you don't feel the same way that I do but that's why I wanted to ask
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because like maybe you know from a different perspective for women that do you could be like
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well it's life-changing you know it is like do you mind do you ever like orgasm during sex not
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really no no see that's that's where i started self-pleasuring okay because i couldn't get
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through sex you'll learn your get through it as in like you would stop or you would just be like
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no i'd go through it but it's like okay this is yeah yeah that's pretty much my life yeah
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but that's when i started self-pleasuring okay yeah that's that's fair i yeah okay but yeah i
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don't i don't think i've ever like not been satisfied if that makes sense like even my
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sister would be like i feel like half the reason why xyz happens is because you aren't satisfied
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and you don't know it because it's never happened and then like the first time it happened she and
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you know i was like oh my god that was like super wild she's like see what i told you and i was like
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Yeah, but if that happened every time, like, I think I'd be a psychopath because, like, I'd be like, bro, you're not going anywhere, like, get in the closet, you know what I mean?
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So, I mean, I get it, but I feel like there's so many ups and downs to that topic that it's, like.
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It's hard to find that happy medium where both parties are happy and then you've got to worry about fucking cheating and shit.
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and being cheated on is the worst it is the worst feeling ever yeah yeah that'll send your ego
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crashing yeah or just like even like your you know self-esteem or your self-worth i would probably
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never be able to like even try to be with the guy again if i got i was gonna say would you take
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someone back after i cheat on you no hell no no no i did that once that was trail no worst mistake
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i'd never date a guy that that would cheat like just in general because if they'll cheat
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Nothing's worse than when you actually catch them
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or something we're talking about cheating a little bit so wait you said you've never come
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during sex or who was that i did me i never come during sex yeah we were show your hand raise the
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hands who's never climaxed no during sex like just you two you i'm abstaining can you speak
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into the mic i'm abstaining okay that's fine uh you know i want to talk about a different orgasm
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gap though so there is a you know i've heard from a lot of women that they don't come during sex you
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know from on the show not in my personal life uh okay hyper so far but uh you know i've encountered
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a different issue and this is a this is the a different orgasm gap us men we can really only
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come once now there's a refractory there's a refractory well hold on there's a refractory
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period yeah and uh you know it changes as you age but the refractory period nathan why are you
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smiling nathan's like i know what this motherfucker's talking about uh but uh
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usually look you need like 30 minutes to recharge that's like i'd say that's a yeah
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right uh sometimes longer yeah it depends on the person sometimes shorter depends how frequently
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And y'all are cumming like 10, 20, 30 times
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By cumming does that include like squirting
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it i mean it can i i have found i feel like a lot of women lie about climaxing okay squirting
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i'm 41 it took until i was 39 one guy got me to do it it's yeah yeah it depends
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yeah but like a lot of women can lie about climaxing well they shouldn't but i mean i
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I think because I feel bad for the guy, honestly.
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I mean, yeah, but I feel like it's, is a woman who's going to fake an orgasm, is she's going to fake having multiples?
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Like, I don't think she's going to fake having multiples.
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If it's in round two, I'm not going to do anything.
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Yeah. So, I mean, my advice to my advice to women is you should never fake an orgasm ever because it's just bad communication.
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And then it's just it sets you up to be because if the man thinks he's pleasuring you, but he's not, you're not going to be pleasured.
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And you can go about telling him what you like in a diplomatic way.
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that's very there's some women who guilty of that but also you shouldn't fake it like look
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there's some women who they can't even get themselves off or it's really hard to get
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themselves off uh or maybe they can get themselves off easily but it's hard they've had difficulty
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with men getting them off because i don't know they're fucking rubik's cube they're fucking
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you gotta be hit like doing the exact same right thing for 20 minutes fucking straight and if you
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yeah that is true lay off the right angle she's like 80 percent there and you lay off the pressure
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for like three seconds you just fuck the entire thing up that's so true though there's some
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that's so true it is well there's one thing one advice i would give to men is uh if you sense
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that the woman's getting close you should not change anything don't change even if don't make
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it faster i think it but i understand they get tired well that's true like i understand that
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i'm getting carpal tunnel syndrome over here trying to get her to come but uh i think that
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it is really unfair that i've dated multiple women i was like is this going to reveal the
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body count i'll just say i've dated multiple women who are like multi-orgasmic and it's just it's
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i'm not even exaggerating they'll come within like 10 seconds and then it's like 10 seconds
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10 seconds like well damn i'm jealous it's like a medical disorder it's a medical disorder
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maybe it's a good one it's like i guess it wouldn't be a disorder if it's actually to
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their benefit in this case like i mean that's definitely a good thing like yeah yeah but i
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would kill for that and i'm like i'm over here like getting my one and their legs are twitching
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and shit and they're all like they're exacerbated and shit i don't know so there's ways to delay
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your orgasm as a male that is creates sensations akin to ejaculating but without releasing it so
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you can get there but it requires a lot of work i've heard of this it's like you have yeah no i've
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i've heard of this but it's like you have to do like what is it the male kegels or whatever yeah
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yeah you have to like there are certain it's like you gotta fucking meditate and shit you
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gotta reach the third plane or i don't know what the fuck it's called yeah no so yes i guess some
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men can do that yeah like bust a nut keep going yeah i don't know though because well it's not
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she was she was shaking her head like yeah she'd be having dudes who fuck come and keep fucking
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okay girl period i mean i'll off i feel like it's like it's actually painful to keep going
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like because it's oh it's too sensitive yeah as a girl like for a guy yeah like no okay look i'll
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give it i'll explain it like this like girls who keep like during oral sex you gotta stop
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you can't keep doing that you can't keep sucking oh after after no like as soon as
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pretty much as soon as you you know climax as the guy chill the fuck out bro stop like it's
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no like don't keep going like it's too much yeah it's too much it's yeah yeah and i think
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vagina after going too many rounds i guess yeah i guess yeah like a clit like a clit don't move
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your mouth at all it's the same same for girls don't move your mouth at all just just get off
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stay there for 30 seconds stay there wait for oral sex right yeah getting off of it
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no you can't you can't just like let it hit the ceiling like no you gotta be a trooper and
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you know wait what like hold it in there like holding it in your mouth for a couple seconds
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no no like stop touching it completely oh yeah okay you mean like let it go limp right just let
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it fall like stop touching it okay like for head i i figured this was self-explanatory but just
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he's shaking his head he's confused too oh now he's ducking it's like this i don't give a lot
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very simple okay when you're coming as a guy and she's giving you head like she can continue for
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maybe one or two seconds but then it's gonna be it's basically like that cadence i me personally
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it needs to just she can keep the mat oh my god she can keep the mouth on the dick
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but she shouldn't continue the the sucking she should not continue the motion like it gotcha
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it that shit hurts honestly it's painful i feel you i've heard that yeah you know what i mean
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i don't know yep they don't know what i mean i've heard that yeah what the fuck all right
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let's get back to the let's get back to the notes here um uh let's get to you know what let's do
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cheyenne or maybe we should wait till her friend's back so the friend can laugh at these oh she's
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if you aren't climaxing with your man and you keep faking it to be nice,
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you are the shitty partner because you'll never be satisfied,
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and uh but also it's just like i don't know personally if you can't make me come you can't
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be my man yeah that's where i was telling you sometimes i see guys and then i see that and
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they're it's not they're not gonna be able to or whatever i'm like yeah no
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you know though this does the female orgasm enjoyable though it may be
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is not a requisite for procreation i will say that so technically although i it is a goal of
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mind to achieve uh it isn't necessary for procreation but to be my man yes yeah fair enough
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fair enough but i'm just saying yeah we should be more honest i mean that's a valid point i
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understand i totally understand you should look coming from you should look my rule is she comes
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first preferably multiple times if possible okay so be honest and just keep going until it happens
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uh i keep working on it or is that like a deal breaker i'm not i'm not making when i say that
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the female orgasm isn't necessary for procreation i'm not saying that uh from a relationship
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perspective it's not important i think the man should have be uh wanting to please his partner
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her, but it can even be a selfish thing too. Like I find it psychologically stimulating for me to
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make her come and like she gets more wet and it's more. So even from a purely selfish perspective,
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uh, it seems like it would be conducive to want to make your girlfriend come. Uh, but also just,
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I mean, that's, I'm not saying that for me, it's a selfish thing, but I'm saying even if you were
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selfish like the sex would be better she's going to be more into it i don't know so anyways uh what
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what are we going to do china china cheyenne china right should we i think we should do you
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think we should uh never mind i was going to say if we should annex canada like take it i'm kidding
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up and it's just the window tab got a video from china uh she's in a toronto this is her doing this
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is this is her in mexico doing cocaine just kidding in the bathroom just kidding go ahead
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okay yeah pause it there just pause it uh read these read the list into the microphone sure
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so essentially i said the guy texted me the date went well and then in my mind i'm like
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he was late for eight minutes his shoes weren't clean he didn't hold the door for me
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said yikes three times yeah he uses the same perfume as my dad perfume yeah yeah yeah put his
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phone face down didn't offer me his jacket when i said it was cold he didn't smile when talking
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to the waitress his haircut was uneven flexed too much about how much money he makes no flowers
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though i'm not mad now i think i've seen this before so this wasn't you who wrote this it was
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not but it was inspired from but i did get the the date went great and i was like meh yeah you
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didn't think so yeah word pull it up tiffany uh baby butthead spitters or quitters agreed wow
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thank you baby butthead for okay you can uh baby thank you for that appreciate it uh let's see
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where were we um okay so that's the list you got that whole list there pull it up one more time
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let me see if there's anything there i wanted to weird palms i like i mentioned it but like i have
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an ick if the guy's hands are too small or his feet are too small it just like yeah well let's
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we'll get to your while we do that we'll get to your ick list okay so that one's also so do you
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remember you sent me your ick list do you remember every single bullet point um maybe not in order
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but okay let's go through it yeah wait well how before i have you do it who else has an ick list
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things that give you the ick from a guy kind of i mean if i thought about it can you if you're
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gonna speak yeah you speak very softly i need you up on the microphone when you're speaking i'll do
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it yeah i was just saying like if i had like 20 seconds to think of an ick list i probably could
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but well she's gonna give hers and while she's giving hers you guys can think of it go ahead
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for the longest time i actually had one in my phone but then i switched phones
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but yeah so the first one it might not apply for you guys but we speak french and the men out there
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do not know how to spell right or like not all of them most of them though and we get like these
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wild like sentence structures that are like so we actually like kind of make fun of certain
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guys that i just show them the text i'm like yo this is wild like but uh so that's one wait but
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so they're primarily english speakers no they're french speakers but they don't know how to write
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oh okay so they're like illiterate yeah yeah but like i think honestly like
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at least 80 percent if not more are illiterate and text wise yeah yeah but french is i'm actually
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i'm okay with that i'm not no what i'm saying is i'm okay with you having that
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like if the guy is not like he communicates i mean i sort of have that too with women if they
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talk like they're not to be classist or whatever like they talk like they're fucking retarded
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like or they talk ghetto i'm not like no like they talk like their hood rat shit nah not for me
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i need a she doesn't have to i was gonna say proper so i get that like i don't i don't like
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that so okay next um what was that there uh that yeah um i'm pretty tall i'm 5 8 so if a guy is like
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near my height or even like i'm yeah so like even 5 10 it's not even their fault but it makes me feel
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like less feminine or just like less comfortable more aware of my height i'd say so when i'm with
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someone taller i just like prefer it okay so height so yeah uh i guess what's the minimum
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um like it's a little controversial but even six foot sometimes i'm like yeah
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okay all right so if the guy's six foot it might give you the ick
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yes if they have short hands like small hands like small hands or small feet and they're like
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six or under what about my hands they're fine these are fine hands yeah i feel like they're
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a little feminine to be honest they're very they're fine they're piano you know you ever
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seen a guy like a guy who has thick like thick meaty hands i got kind of thin hands like for
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playing the piano i wouldn't give them a 10 out of 10 but yeah okay i'll let you do you want to
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show them again here i'll show the back and the side i'd give them a 6.5 do i have weird palms
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are the palms weird i think they could be like your hands could be long like the fingers could
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be longer could be longer a little bit yeah or thicker i don't know how far back is the fucking
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g-spot what the fuck you know like the digit ratio thing like the court like the if your ring
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finger is longer than your index finger it like correlates to the amount of testosterone that you
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i think it was exposed to in the womb and if your index finger is longer than your ring finger it's
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like more estrogen and so if your ring finger is longer it's like uh it's an indicator i think
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i don't have more testosterone i mean i don't remember if it's more testosterone or exposed
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to more testosterone but it's like for me like i have a longer ring finger and a but it's more
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common for sorry i have a longer i have a longer ring finger but for females it's more common to
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have a longer index finger it's like a correlation there's a wikipedia page if you look up digit
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ratio thing on wikipedia it'll explain it okay that's cool anyways next did you rate my yeah
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six six is 0.5 okay yeah valid next um if they still live at their parents i just can't oh girl
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can't do that you're how old are you 29 yeah okay the economy's rough i would say do you know
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living in america right now i'm 28 i'm still living i'm still living with my parents man i
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live in new jersey we'll do like roommates that's like a con like roommates sure but if you're just
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So, like, for me to go to a guy's parents is only a house.
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And even if you have to go through the fenster.
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This is a funny one, but I was, like, talking to a guy, like, here, known him for a while, shout out Max, and at some point he's like, we were at a festival or something, and he lived a little closer to the festival, and he was like, oh, do you guys want to come, like, sleep over or something, and I'm like, look at her, do you want to go?
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she's like sure but mind you I don't know of like anything that's going on like where he lives or
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whatnot and then he's like well my parents aren't here but there's cameras so you you're gonna have
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to go through the window I'm like excuse me you think I'm gonna go through a window to come see
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you hell no so I essentially told him I'm like sorry but that was a huge ick we're not at the
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same place in life i can't that's that's fair with you anymore that's fair so we haven't talked
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since okay so there's the there's that yeah um if like i feel like guys usually take care of their
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cars so i don't know if you're i get into your car and it's like a fucking shit show there what
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if there's like one no that's fine like one thing no no that's okay here i'm gonna i have your list
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yeah it's just like okay obviously if uh we're looking at a mansion you're saying like this is
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a pricey house sure but if like your things under 20 and that you're comparing it to like
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you're saying that this item for what it's worth is a lot and repeatedly it's kind of an ick
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i think it's harder if a guy's just like who cares we need water like let's do it i think
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well so okay but we need to differentiate between like okay you need the thing and
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he buys it anyways or if he refuses to do it but like okay he buys the fucking thing
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if it happens once and it's no but if it's i would be look
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let's say i make millions of dollars let's just say
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and somebody wanted to sell me a ball of water for seven dollars i can afford it it's not a problem
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seven dollars for a fucking bottle of water that's fucking bullshit that's bullshit
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fuck that like i don't know somebody uh i'm trying to think of something i'm trying to think
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of an example another example i mean the bottle of water one's perfect but it's from past experiences
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that sometimes i just keep oh this is expensive this is expensive well can i ask you this let's
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say you let's say you were a billionaire yeah and so you could you could spend a thousand dollars
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on a water bottle from costco uh and by the way it's like 40 for five dollars
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you wouldn't even as a billionaire you wouldn't be like a two a thousand dollar water bottle
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like that that's uh 10 cents in costco 20 cents at costco well that's bullshit i've heard billionaires
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on like podcasts and this and that say that they don't really know the price of like small things
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because they don't take care of that kind of thing well so that's different though so that's
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just like so i think if i were a billionaire i wouldn't even know what the price would be
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well i mean you would have some unless you've been a billionaire your entire life
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and you don't even look at the price even then i mean come on uh knowing what you know about
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water bottles and if you got a billion dollars tomorrow you'd be like what the fuck water a
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thousand dollar water bottle that's okay but that's different no but that's difference okay
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uh that would still be bullshit because you could go to costco and buy the water bottle 40
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40 water bottles for five dollars i would look at it and probably in my mind be like
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weird but okay but i wouldn't be like repeatedly let me ask you a question mentioning it let me
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ask you a question if you didn't have breakfast this morning how would you feel i didn't you
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didn't have sorry fast no but repeat that i didn't have breakfast this morning you did or didn't did
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not you did not have breakfast this morning and i didn't complain about it yeah how would you feel
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if you didn't have breakfast this wait let me ask did you have breakfast yesterday no when's the
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last time you what get this girl some fucking pancakes when's the last time you had breakfast
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girl uh i don't know two three weeks ago all right two or three weeks ago when you had breakfast
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had you not had breakfast how would you feel it's fine i'm on adderall i'm not really hungry in the
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morning i guess that's kind of an answer all right all right i eat from like two to ten
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three yeah all right uh okay uh so if they don't have a car it's an ick you have a car
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yeah uh if they have a dirty car we talked about that is your car clean no
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double stand are you guys renting a car no wait how long you guys here for in california
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um when y'all leave uh tuesday oh on tuesday okay all right we're gonna take a train tomorrow
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got it okay uh let's see when they're when they're cheap and they don't want to spend a lot that
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gives you the ick yeah but it's even it's most like obviously to some degree on me but it's when
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they're not even like spending on themselves they're you know what i'm like depriving
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Can I ask you a question? Do you think I dress nicely?
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And advertising your brand. Right, but I mean, it's not
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very stylish i don't dress stylish right i don't care um but uh i have the money to dress stylishly
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i could buy i don't know i don't frankly this is how much i don't give a fuck i don't even know
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what the nice brands are what is it fucking gucci what is the nice well i'm like that too
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like my uh i don't spend like on for clothing and person stuff like that right
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But you said if the guy doesn't spend a lot on themselves, but also on dates.
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I'm not going to say how much I make, but I do well.
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Now, my girlfriend, future girlfriend, I'm not going to get married, fuck that.
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But I will have kids with a woman, hopefully a lot.
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she's never getting a louis vuitton bag she's never getting you know uh i'm not going to ever
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waste thousands of dollars on a designer thing no but that might my my financial expenditure
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might manifest in other ways like the house will be nicer the vacations or it might be
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for the benefit of our kids even though i might have the money to i could certainly afford to buy
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her some very nice bag so does that uh what i just described is that icky to you no it's more
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so let's say you can afford a somewhat decent car like doesn't have to be a bugatti but like a
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good and functional honda civic but you keep your shitty car that barely works for
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i don't know 15 years or something and right upgrade when you can okay it's kind of like
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you said if they have short legs that gives you the
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he was like tried to cuddle with me wait can i have you yeah yeah sorry to the mic um he like
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tried to cuddle with me and then he put his legs near mine and then i just realized you know what
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we're gonna do um can uh maybe tiffany you can help out we're gonna i want to give her the taller
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mic because she's kind of tall so that mic is going to go under the table we're going to scoot
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those two mics over yeah sorry better with that one it was just it was bothering me uh no no here
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give it to tiffany give it to tiffany tiffany you put it somewhere where it won't get kicked
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probably just right in front there all right scoot the mics down for me all right is that good
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do you know how to turn the mic off yeah that should have been nine you muted it uh chat just
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say testing testing testing testing can you guys hear chat i'm sure it's fine um do you see the
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chat you guys team do they hear testing testing testing testing testing yep okay cool continue on
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yeah so we were in bed he tried to like cuddle me a little bit and then i don't know i just felt
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that his legs were much shorter than mine i was like oh why did i bring him over i was like hesitant
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from the get-go but i kind of just like he asked can i sleep over let me think about it and then i
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was like legs okay but yeah yeah and then that happened i was like hell no and then uh i kind
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of scooched over and the crazy thing is this man proceeded to say that he had a threesome with
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milana and i which is complete bull he never kissed me or did the closest thing was sleep over
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and touch you with the short legs yeah short legs so yeah okay cool cool uh what else what
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else is on your ick list uh if they have small hands and feet oh bald and balding ick yeah um i
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my ex-boyfriend was well like bald slash balding but it did kind of low-key give me the ick yeah
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low-key gave you the ick okay uh so question let's say you know as you get older you're going
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to be dating a guy who you know say the guy you marry or whatever yeah he's going to get older
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as men get older um some i mean look some men can go into their 50s 60s be totally fine
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uh what about in that situation you're already dating him and he starts going bald
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um or is he going to get a transplant maybe well what if he doesn't want like are you going to
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pressure him to get a transplant no but if he talks about it about it and it's like should i
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i'm like yeah let's go together to turkey do a little trip okay uh you said out of shape
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slash belly fat yeah well i'm fucked uh if they uh okay sure that's fine uh if they often eat
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fast food don't yeah okay yeah that's fine yeah i i'm personally when's the last time you had fast
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food today we went to um how's it called in and out or something but i um took out the bread and
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everything and i just took the meat and like a like cheese and ketchup yeah good for you uh if
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they're if they're obsessed with camping it gives you the ick yeah i'm not a camper like i don't
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understand why people go on vacation to downgrade their lifestyle personally if i'm going on
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vacation i want to upgrade it so i just don't get it and also yeah i don't like mosquitoes and
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feeling dirty i like to shower but you know what glamping it actually yeah i sort of agree with you
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so but like if a girl's into camping or she's outdoorsy it doesn't give me the ick yeah like
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i'm not turned off by it but i just don't like camping that that's it so if they want to go do
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those things i feel like i'll probably kind of like end up doing it and i'm just not gonna enjoy
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because i feel like you know look we built all of this to get away from that in the sense that
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i don't know we have a lot of modern comforts yeah i don't mind doing like an excursion in
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nature and everything but once we go back home like home i want to be comfy you know yeah i don't
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want to right live in a being a fucking tent and there's ants and shit and i could maybe do it one
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night but not two fair enough if they're too hairy yeah and the worst part is like i've the last
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few guys i've been are on the hairier side of the spectrum but it's just like
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if you like touch them and then it's their backs hairy and yeah okay that gives you the
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look yeah back hair agree it's all you have a long ick list yeah i do but they're i think some
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these are kind of yeah these are kind of preference-y so yeah yeah you know i there's
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not too much pushback on some of these but um do you have an issue with men who don't want
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hairy women uh no because i've done laser pretty much everywhere on my body so i yeah i prefer is
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that self or you go to like a place yeah i went to a place but i'm lucky because with my like i'm
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have dark hair and stuff but i'm not like particularly hairy but i just prefer it
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do you think because i've heard some women say as an argument that men who prefer women
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uh who have less hair or who groom that that it's like creepy that guys that groom wait no that
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guys that prefer women who grew like who are uh through grooming who are hairless to have that
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preference as a guy they say it's creepy down there i've heard that before yeah yeah why is
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like a little like i don't think it's like yeah like a little girl but what they're trying to
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allude to is these women maybe they have arm hair or whatever yeah and men who prefer women who
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don't have like body hair arm hair etc um this is somehow indicative that to put it bluntly that
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they're pedophiles i disagree which i think is ridiculous no yeah i think that's taking it way
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too far yes they are can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table for me um that's not
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yeah okay uh if they didn't go to college gives you the ick
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so if they didn't go to college and like they believe in conspiracy theories and like they
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i don't know if they have like or they're a little more on the like misogynist part of the spectrum
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and stuff like that or they just have and they didn't go to college i'm like yeah that's that's
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what's up am i a misogynist i like i watch clips of the show but i haven't got like
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watched the full nine hours kind of thing so i i don't know you've seen
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go ahead you can say it if you're massage um massage therapist
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well some of your stances i don't fully agree with but sure are they misogynistic but some
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we saw pretty much eye to eye on certain things so i don't know what are the stances you disagree
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with the abortion thing well i mean that was something we got into tonight but putting that
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aside uh what is uh other stances you disagree with um for me it's like double standards so if
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for me if a girl hooks up with a lot of guys and you guys say oh she's a this or that i think
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it's the same thing for guys if they sleep with any girl even if it's not their type or
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like for me is that you don't really like value yeah value yourself that much or you don't put
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yourself to a high standard so i think it's yeah um well so this is my position i don't
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believe that promiscuity is good in men or women yeah well however however i am prepared to say
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that i think it's different so there is a double standard there um one of the i guess one of the
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components is it's really easy for women to get laid and it's relatively comparatively speaking
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difficult for men to get laid uh so something that is easy to do is typically not going to be viewed
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in a as charitable of a way well for me but you do you agree with that or you disagree well
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for me it is difficult because i'm picky you know what i mean like for me to be down to do
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something with someone i have so many criteria that he's got the ick list yeah so it is probably
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like your palms are weird yeah well but so that's a bit different though so well you said it's
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different no well no what i what i'm saying here is is that let me ask you this when the guy does
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meet your list yeah how confident are you you can fuck him um pretty yeah pretty confident
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men can't say that i think it depends so yeah so yeah yeah well hold on for men when it comes to
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even getting laid with women we would never even be in relationships with like we'll get rejected
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and curved by women who like i guess it wouldn't be objectively speaking but like men will get
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rejected and curved by like let's be honest like women who are even below their league right and so
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uh for men if you're out there trying to get pussy trying to get laid
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that's that can be called getting lucky like if i'm on a date with a woman it's not a given that
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we're gonna fuck it's not a given you know in most circumstances but my stance is that if you
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hook up with someone you're not even attracted to them and you're doing that multiple times
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i i i don't i think it's the same thing as your version of like well okay fine even if i take a
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guy who only goes on dates with women whom he finds attractive enough to be in relationships
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with it's not a given that he can get laid like you can shoot your shot as a guy and get rejected
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10 out of 10 times i'll respect you a lot more if you just hook up with people that or potentially
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attract like that you are attracted to and might maybe you'll miss maybe well yeah but that's a
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separate thing that's not really what we're talking about what we're talking about here
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you're talking about the double standard that exists between men and women where uh you know
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they're a woman's a slut and the man's a stud you know the man it's impressive if he fucks a lot of
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women whereas it's disgusting if a woman oh my god she's a sturdy slut oh my god that guy is just a
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that guy just runs through all these hot beesies like that's a different that's the double standard
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you're referencing but and again i don't think men should be promiscuous but uh it's it is
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somewhat like if you're a guy and you can fuck a lot of women uh as objectionable as it may be
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that communicates something about the man like any woman can be a slut any single one of you
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tonight you go out to a fucking bar on a sunday night in fucking small ass santa barbara you can
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get some dick within 30 minutes us men most men unless you're unless you're a guy and you're top
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top top tier even then it's not a guarantee i can't i can't just at 10 p.m on a tuesday just
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be like i need pussy i can't just men most men cannot just at any given moment need some pussy
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get some pussy can't do it women at any hour of the night it could be it could be 4 a.m
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you hop on tinder come over but i'll disagree there just because i wouldn't be able to
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go through it because i'm not attracted to them it would so i just can't get like
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no a quality guy i find attractive at 4am but that's a filtering that would be a filtering
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issue but guys don't have that right but so for men to be able to get laid they have to actually
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be bringing at least regularly right uh they have to be bringing something women okay i'll paint it
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like that women don't have to bring anything to get sex it's not impressive like if a woman can
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fuck a bunch of dudes like okay if a woman can fuck four men in a night it's like oh okay duh
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like that's not really all that challenging for a woman like she could do it for a dude to fuck
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four different women like brand new fresh women in the night bro this guy needs to write a
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fucking book or something that's insane but regularly like you gotta be i don't know i
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drake it's still hard though bro hold on we had i remember this one episode we had a
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a below average looking fat woman who said that she was a sex addict and she would be on tinder
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and she would literally i know this sounds gross schedule these dudes she would fuck six dudes in a
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day 3 p.m 5 p.m 7 p.m 9 p.m like literally and she's below average looking at for a guy to fuck
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six women off tinder in a day he has to be a fucking greek god and like the most aesthetic
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fucking insane aesthetics and even then if i'm a betting man i don't think he's doing it i don't
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think most men now look maybe goes on it he sets up some dates and maybe he gets pussy down the
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road i don't think even the greek god dude can i don't know if i'm if it's my life savings
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i'm not i'm not i'm not going all in on greek god guy being able to fuck six women and i don't know
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i'm not going all in i'm just saying but a woman you give me i would rather place my money on a
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chubby not obese but let's say she's a little chubby and she's average in the face i would
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quicker put my money on her fucking six dudes than i would put all my money chips all in on
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greek god giga chad 10 out of 10 then then him getting six women or at least like who can fuck
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more quicker i guess but doesn't it take six dudes to fuck this one girl right how would that be
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relevant though well you need some guys to do it so they're getting laid to some degree
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i suppose but the idea here is it's super easy for women to get laid it's difficult for men to
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get laid so it's more it's like more impressive uh the other component here is that there's a
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well hold on there's a couple different reasons
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promiscuity in women is grosser it's more disgusting i disagree right well i'll explain
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why i'll explain why and i think you guys will agree with me by the end of it so if a woman
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let's say let's say in both instances so the man version and the female version
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they're fucking without a condom but let's remove stds from this hold on oh people are
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fucking without condoms trust okay so let's remove stds from this but i mean we could even
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incorporate std argument if i have sex with a woman and then i hop in the shower
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say i came inside of her right i hop in the shower and there's no std or whatever
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i might as well and i soap and whatever i might as well be a virgin
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And it's, I don't know, the bed is leaking with her pussy juice.
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Okay, it's not advised that women, you should not put soap in your pussy.
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I don't even think you're really supposed to fucking put water up in there to that degree.
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You have another man's cum still inside of you
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uh yeah there's there's dna up inside of her but then the guy's a slut too right yeah well because
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you can't just you can't just wash off a body oh wait wait hold on but i'm talking about
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physiological like fucking bacteria here i'm willing to i'm i'm not gonna argue men can't
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be sluts i totally agree with you men are sluts anyways back to this yes men can be sluts they
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can fuck a lot of women uh promiscuity and males are bad however the reason it's worse in women
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is for fucking literally bacterial motherfucking reasons literally dna uh it's gross it's gross
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to think you could fuck a woman and she's got another dude's fucking seed in her that's
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disgusting but if i wash my dick i'm good as new but you're only talking about people who are
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having unprotected sex well uh yeah if you want to do carve outs um i i suppose you you could do
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that but comparing like for like and look let's be real here uh a lot of people are fucking without
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condoms okay personally a lot okay well you're a prostitute you have to use condoms uh yeah and
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it's like that's but and we're not just like we're talking about promiscuous women so comparing a
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promiscuous man to a promiscuous woman then yes she is fucking lots of dudes and yes say she's on
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birth control whatever she's letting dudes blast inside her i think if you're responsible and
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having multiple partners no but then you're also more likely to get a yeast infection even if you're
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using condoms even if you're using condoms maybe the condom breaks even if you're still so from
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that perspective right it's gross it's more gross and then here's the other component that's
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evolutionary psychology if i have 10 wives and they're all loyal to me and i'm well loyal to
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the 10 wives but well we get it and i get them all pregnant
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and they're loyal to me we know who the father is and for each of the kids we know who the
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mother is if a woman has 10 husbands and they're all loyal to her and she's well fucking all of
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them who the fuck is the father you don't know you don't know well hold on okay paternity tests
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are a modern invention of science back in the are we in 2026 or well hold on but so do you know what
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flight or flight is yeah why is it that people have panic attacks and anxiety attacks when there's
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not an actual uh mountain lion yeah why do i have a panic attack uh when there's not a uh a lion
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why some do some don't but yeah but why do people have panic attacks but there's not an immediate
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threat i'm looking for the correct way to say it but it's uh like uh to some i don't know it's a way
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to like the anticipation of it well it's to protect yourself in certain situations but what is the
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purpose of the flight or flight response if i'm just chilling in my cave if i'm just chilling in
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my cave uh and i'm kicking it fred flintstone shit and there i'm good there's no there's no
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saber-toothed tiger what is the purpose of me having a panic attack i don't think you
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should have a panic attack if there's but what is that system so when you have a panic attack that's
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your fight or flight response so that's like saber-toothed tiger danger danger danger i need
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to run and i need adrenaline to help me run faster and longer and i also need maybe i'm
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fighting something i need my strength fight or flight adrenaline more strength a way to survive
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right okay but in the data in for most of you who here has ever had a panic attack
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uh now did you have a panic attack when a saber-toothed tiger was about to kill you
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or did you have a panic attack room ruminating over some fucking bullshit drama that doesn't
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actually pose any threat to you i don't think it was a bullshit drama well the idea here is that
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what i'm trying to get at is that we have systems in our body uh that
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that transcend modern uh the sort of comforts of modernity so in this case you say that well
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we have dna tests okay my feeling as a man if my girlfriend gets pregnant by another man
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well don't that's bro it's you can't even intellectual it's not a thing you can even
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think through and intellectualize so when you're dealing with a promiscuous woman
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it's one of the worst because you women can't even empathize i don't even think you understand
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because when you have a kid you know it's yours there's no world in which oh he was cheating on
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me and the and i thought it was my kid no when you give birth you know that's your kid men can't
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get pregnant well in all the situations that i'm aware of guys if they were unsure would just get
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a fraternity test. Okay. So, but that doesn't take away tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands
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of years of evolutionary psychology and biology. So the reason men have a greater aversion to
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female promiscuity is okay. If I'm going to invest all this time and energy and resources in the
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child, it better fucking be mine. And if it's not my kid, that is the biggest L for most men that
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you can take to be duped by a woman into thinking that it's your kid but it's not that's a dead end
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to your fucking bloodline if you just invested 5 10 20 30 years in raising a kid that's not your
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blood and so in france actually she's from france they actually banned paternity tests in france
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because apparently this is such an issue in france it's so rampant that if men were to i
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think you can do it with consent or something i believe but the man uh cannot just like
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he needs permission or some bullshit can we google this can we google uh france france
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paternity test law can you google that um france paternity test law
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uh one less yeah so private at home recreational paternity test but if you go see a doctor
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but but so uh purpose the ban is intended to protect the stability of the family unit
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uh and restrict dna testing to regulated medical so okay uh they're only legal oh wait
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oh they have to be ordered by a judge oh wait wait it has to be hold on that's a bit conflicting it
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has to be oh no no no so yeah the judge has to order the paternity test
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so i wait would this even if the woman consents you can't get like a private at-home test
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so wait what if the woman i've never heard of an at-home paternity you can order them like on
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amazon yeah you can order anything at this point but but the idea here apparently france made a
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determination let me ask can you ask why oh wait actually affiliation over purely
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french bioethics law prioritizes legal recognized affiliation over purely biological
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evidence to avoid disrupting family structures okay so what that's suggesting is
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women in france just be fucking other dudes and he would be very disruptive if men knew that their
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wife or girlfriend and that that kid isn't his but y'all women can't even understand how much of a
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how much of a betrayal that would be y'all y'all can't even conceptualize it because it could never
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happen to you no but that that does seem hard yeah yeah i can like we're realistic
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i can i can see how that would be disturbing yeah but look that's why men are more invested in this
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for i mean a variety of reasons i don't know if you disagree or it's just hard for me to relate
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to this because one i'm not in the mindset of oh i want kids at the moment and wait you don't you
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don't want kids period it's like 29 when's your birthday uh it was in january okay so you'll be
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30 in january okay um i just yeah i am it's not on the priority list i guess why not what's your
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priority right now um living life um living life investing investing okay i don't know it's just
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not there so do you not want kids no i'm not at the moment no no in like right now i would say
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no but i don't know sometimes people things change people change but right now it's just not on the
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priority list so it's hard to put myself in that situation and i think pretty sure if i were to be
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pregnant like i know who it i know who it would be so um okay who here uh who here wants kids
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show of hands you don't want kids i want kids yeah sorry i want kids okay you are you christian
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uh i've done my communion but i'm not going to the church every every week okay because you're
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rowing across so everybody wants kids or did i miss i want kids kids no no kids for you no nope
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kids okay uh okay so you're on the fence about kids yeah i think it's for some people have like
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the qualities or the or in the right situation but like personally i'm so adhd that i have a hard
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time taking care of myself sometimes so i just like so do you have brothers yeah okay i guess
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they'll continue on the bloodline and you'll be the you'll be the wine aunt or whatever yeah cool
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aunt is that really you don't want kids uh right now yeah yeah okay but my brothers have kids yeah
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oh okay interesting i have a question for you let's say you could get the perfect guy
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so he's rich meets all your criteria he's got the looks he's got the personality he's got the money
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he's got all the things that you care about perfect guy but there's one condition you have
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to have three kids with him do you take the deal do you take the trade um i would there would be
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a lot of conditions what do you mean conditions um first of all i'm get like he's gonna have to
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like put some money in there oh yeah in your pussy no no so um because for me the biggest
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thing that i would be scared of is like the whole like pregnancy like i gained two pounds and i'm
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like tripping so imagine like the whole not just that but this part of it so i'm gonna need a
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personal trainer um if i have three kids i'm probably staying at home so you better perfect
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guy yeah but yeah i'm i'm gonna need ozempic i'm gonna need a personal trainer and it's not
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gonna come from me it's gonna come from him but three that's wild but can it be an adoption
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nope and you uh can it be a surrogacy it's potentially negotiable but uh those are yeah
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but if i have to you i think no part of the deal i think you have to you have to give birth to the
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kids that's part of the deal no you don't want to lose your body mainly is that what it is it's
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part of it yeah and i but you already have the man so who cares and he's perfect he'll never
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he'll never cheat he'll never leave you postpartum and then oh my god anti-natalist crazy yeah
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all right my body my choice huh well yeah it's obviously people can do whatever uh well not
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whatever they want but people can choose to have kids or not have kids i just think like
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when presented with this opportunity to have the perfect man it's you're thinking still me me me
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no but if i someday in my life meet the perfect guy i will consider it way more than like i'll
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never have a one-night stand get pregnant and be like oh absolutely like no yeah that will not
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happen but if the circumstances are perfect and I'm in another headspace in my life long later on
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perhaps but it's not like oh I absolutely need kids and I'm ready to raise them on my own and
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not take any child support so what's I mean let's say you don't have kids what would be your purpose
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in life there's so many things like i feel like i'm like for me every day or like as i'm growing
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up i'm trying to be a better person and like work on things so that's my like my goal is that at a
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certain age i'll have no issues and i'll just progress so you currently have issues don't we
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all i i suppose but i mean those just go away as you age no but you try to improve okay so you
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don't have kids because adhd and yeah just like already like just she helped me like pack here
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because like just thinking about everything and stuff i was like all right maybe you shouldn't
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have because then there you go you have you struggle packing yeah just like how old are you
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29 yeah she's always losing your keys oh yeah i lose things yeah do you are you clumsy are you
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clumsy yeah yeah yeah it's a liability to date a clumsy woman oh but she's improving since i mean
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her life she's improving yeah you know it's not not talking about you but like clumsy women the
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the way they're dangerous is they can't you can't have sex with them on top
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because they'll break your shit they'll just they're they're so like just they flail around
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and shit and uh like a girl who isn't aware of her environment like i don't know yo let me ask
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the chat chat have you ever like maybe a girl a girl's going down on you and then she like climbs
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to get on top of you and as she's climbing on top she like knees you in the dick or she like
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knees you in the balls you've done that whoops not sober bro it's like bro and like you're you're
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tall right like five foot eight yeah right you're you're not like a petite woman you know i don't
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think i'm a non-petite woman no i'm not saying you're fat but like your your dad was an athlete
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like he was a big guy right yeah yeah so i mean like i'm not saying you're just you're just a
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larger that sounds so bad i don't mean it that way but you're like a you're bigger which is good
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d1 if you do have kids like you'll give your your kids will be athletes or whatever i already
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thought of this but if i have a girl and i usually am interested in taller guys this poor girl's
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gonna be so tall yeah it's yeah but wait where the fuck oh no but i'm saying like look if like
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a little petite thing yeah like accidentally yeah but i mean like do you work out too yeah so you
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got like some leg strength yeah that's the problem like a clumsy girl with like big thought like
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muscle she's gonna wreck your shit she's gonna just and then the sheets it hasn't been a problem
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it's more like i'll like hit something here or like yeah my knees are bruised kind of thing
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i'm just saying it's i i'm scared to date a clumsy woman because they're gonna like as they're you
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know it could be different shit but they're like i don't know they'll just fucking knee you in the
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balls and as they're coming up just fucking knee you in the dick fuck my dick's there move be
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careful lady i only got one you break this shit it's over it's over for it shit hey you can break
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your dick did you guys know that yeah oh yeah you guys broken dicks nope no shit you gotta be
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careful especially if you gotta be careful guys okay anyways uh okay you don't want kids
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i want kids oh you do want kids okay i forgot where i was going with the kids thing i guess i
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was gonna say for the perfect guy because you're you're still in college uh university and you want
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to do a job and you're you're in electrical engineering yeah okay say the perfect guy comes
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around and he's like rich and when i say perfect so this means personality looks money and he's
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perfectly loyal like you have a i don't know you can see the future he would never cheat on you
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i guess you you don't see the future but you know he would never cheat he's perfectly loyal uh he
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would never be abusive he would treat you perfectly so when i say perfect i mean everything he's not
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just a hot dude with money everything perfect he would never leave you like everything so you never
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have to worry about him leaving perfect guy you meet him tomorrow but a condition of you being
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being with him is you have to drop out of college and start having kids do you do it i think yes
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i want kids i want to be a mother later there you go all right w i'm studying because i love that
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and i'm sure that i will love my job because i love uh studying i love research i love everything
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yeah but i want to have kids later and if it and i want to take care of them to raise them
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and to make them good people like uh with my values and everything like this i want them to
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be intelligent uh polite good manier everything okay so yeah all right but if you did meet the
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perfect guy you would oh preferably i will work here because i will maybe become the can in order
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to get the perfect guy one of the conditions is you can't work you have to drop out of college
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to be with him do you do it okay yeah just clarifying all right uh we're gonna move on
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to some other note uh one uh wait oh question how long have you been celibate
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since i've been on the trip oh right you have a boyfriend like in my job or personal life
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total total i just went to work last week so that sucks okay okay i didn't understand the
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question uh la dernière fois que tu as uh i don't want to talk about that
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last last time and a half years two and a half years good for you damn good for you i'm not
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getting in bed with anybody until i know i really fair enough me too yeah i'm being
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celibate until then okay yeah noise uh brooke read this for me okay white brooke
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mate me or i don't know if you're like latino or something yeah wink paternity test issued by
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the judicial branch also ensures consistency purity and accountability i have no doubt
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this was driven by women falsifying the results shout out lizzie yo shout out lizzie thank you for
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the uh the not the tts the read there lizzie thank you thank you thank you all right let's
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finish up the notes here uh where were we we're talking about celibacy oh back to your ex let me
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see if there's any okay if they have a dog ick girl okay hear me out it's because like i have a
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nice home i have yeah i have a nice home and like even um wait can you straighten the mic a little
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bit so it's like uh just that's good go ahead i will say i have no problems with dogs i like dogs
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it's just to have one in my home would be overwhelming oh shit sorry continue go ahead
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yeah tell us more of the x i need to get up um okay um so yeah i like is it just dogs or is it
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like pets and no i have a cat but um my cat has no claws i had him like like that and he's sterilized
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but be super sweet and i love him okay so cats are are fine but um let's say if i had roommates and
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like they have a cat or something i know but i i just like if i can choose my roommates and stuff
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i'd just rather um not to have another animal because it's like more work or whatever gotcha
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or they might not get along yeah or something like that yeah yeah i get that yeah but i i like
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dogs it's just like having a dog in my house there are more work than cats yeah and then i feel like
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my floors would get all i just i love it up and my couch and like um well the adh is kicking and
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you're like yeah they would wake me up and bark in the morning and stuff i just rather not yeah
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okay yeah do you remember the x i had on my um i don't remember all the x i know i want to pull
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mine up i don't remember one of mine's like a high body count but we already talked about that so
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um you remember what i said is that height um the spelling of oh if they this is more of like
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a red flag but like if um the guy i'm seeing keeps talking shit about his exes yeah for me
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from personal experience if you keep mentioning your ex is that you're not over it so for me
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that's a red flag i don't know if it's an ick but it's a red flag yeah yeah but um my ick is when
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guys like will put on their dating profile like bonus points if you x
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i'm like this isn't about points i'm not trying to impress you with my purpose like if you're
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attracted to it that's fine but i'm not trying to like right be your person i don't know you yet
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right yeah if they're sexual right away yeah yeah i don't like men that would it be in person or
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like over text or something i just really feel like it's no one's business i don't i don't want
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to know yours i don't think you need to know mine i don't even care if it was three i don't care if
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a thousand i don't what you do in your personal life is really not my business i don't think the
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amount of people that you sleep with makes you un wifeable or unhusbandable like people really
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think that that matters but you would never really know i could lie to you you know i mean if my body
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count was 500 i could easily be like oh it's five how would you ever know you know so i really don't
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think it's anybody's business i just think it comes down to personality and to me it counts a
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lot okay so here's my question because like I don't have a huge strong opinion but I think for
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me I would perceive the question as it could be indicative of like the future like if someone had
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a high body count does that mean you're thinking oh does that like do you have a high sex drive
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are you more likely to cheat on me I think those are some of the things that run through people's
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heads yeah no definitely yeah yeah there's this like I wouldn't say unconscious but it's kind of
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there but if I'm dating someone who I know has a higher body count is that I don't know he's more
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out there he's more like flirty or whatever and I'm like in my mind I'm like if we were to break
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up I'm gonna have a hard time kind of thing but if he's just like someone calmer who doesn't is not
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like trying to like flirt with girls and stuff if we were to break up I won't be as like stressed
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about it it's weird but it's kind of comes from that i guess yeah what about like slow text like
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slow texters i think it depends um yeah it sucks it for me it's like if when you want to you can
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kind of thing so if you're uh into someone you're gonna want to respond quickly for me if you answer
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me every 24 hours because i'm not high on the priority list right and it goes both ways no
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exactly like if you have a like busy schedule or like i don't know you're um let's say i've had a
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guy that was like a firefighter but like in helicopters for forests and stuff like obviously
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you can't answer why yeah but like if they do care whenever they can they'll like give you a call or
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a text or something right or they'll if they can't answer they'll be like hey sorry um i can't answer
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right now but i'll call you the minute i can and they do so yeah yeah that's important i never
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i was gonna say i never thought it was an ick for me if someone didn't respond quickly but then
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like the first time somewhat recently this person didn't message like once every two to three days
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it was just like almost like i knew it was coming every two to three days to the point where i'm
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like okay you're doing this on purpose that's not random i don't know unless maybe it was becoming
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like a schedule yeah anyone that takes two or three days is eventually gonna stop texting yeah
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they're just you're from the get-go find someone who right cares more about you and but i think
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the energy yeah i think i try to stay away from people that take an extensively long time you
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know like i'll just reciprocate oh you're gonna not answer for 24 hours fine i'll do it for 48
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straight up i'm so bad like once you respond i'm i'm like either like i'm gonna take a week to
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respond or i'm gonna take 30 seconds to respond but if i'm interested in someone like i feel like
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i put them at the top of my priority list you know um however like i work in a restaurant it's
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really busy you know there are times there are days like you know valentine's day mother's day
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where i'm not on my phone i'm you know i mean i clock in and i'm not done until i mean everybody
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leaves so there might be a day where i'm not on my phone for 12 hours you know but like every day
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it's like you know like you ever see that thing where someone was like like majority of people
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check their phone every few hours you know what i mean so if someone's not responding to you like
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at least every five to six hours like you're just really not that important because no matter what
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like people go to the bathroom get water check their phone like oh you know i mean if you can't
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even just say hey busy text me when i can like i just feel like you're not really it all comes
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down to communication so yeah like if you just say hey i won't be able to respond for this amount
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of time right yeah right yeah like i do home care and my client at the at the moment she has
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dementia and she's been sundowning pretty much every single day which is bizarre um but like
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every single hour of the day pretty much and i can't i can't reply unless i'm in the bathroom
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being or something yeah but you know so it really depends time you're in the bathroom you're going
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to respond to the people you exactly right yeah yeah exactly exactly it's all about prioritizing
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the time that you make available yeah but i do i do think that modern you know times we've come
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accustomed to that like you have to respond to me yeah very quickly or like i think you're not
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interested um no that's toxic yeah and I was just say like I feel like the relationships for me that
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didn't end up working out were always the ones where we were up each other's asses and it was
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that whole like we talk from like the time we wake up to the time we go to sleep because you're just
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so like heavily dependent on somebody but then again once I do talk to someone that's like
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you know I mean like oh I can only respond like when I can I'm like oh this is so boring like I
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want to get to know somebody you know so somewhere in the middle somewhere in the middle yeah it's
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hard to find that happy medium yeah that perfect happy medium that's scheduled that's like works
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for everybody but it but ultimately if you're taking two to three days
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if you want to make it work you'll make it work yeah yeah i forgot about you by three days
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what the heck girl right days ran a marathon i know went to california
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come on i'm only here for three days like you you didn't talk to me for three days you probably
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didn't even know i was here you know like come on travel out of the freaking state yeah they can't
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even return a text for god's sake right like come on that's in yeah something i will do though is
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sometimes i'll see a text and i'm like if it's like barely new or something i'm like i can't
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answer right away it's just like too wild and then i'm like i'll answer later and then i completely
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forget that's my adhd or you respond i respond in my head yeah yeah and then i don't hear for
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them for hours i'm like what the heck and then i check and i'm like oh my god i didn't reply
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or sometimes what i'll do is like i'll write the message forget to press send and then i'm like
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why the hell is he ignoring me and then i check i'm like i did i was the one ignoring i did the
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open the message got a different message so i was opening that message because that message was more
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important yeah forgot about the other message never went back to it like but it's not just
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like professionally or like plenty of other like parents family or whatever yeah shit happens
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you know obviously it's not the end of the world we all do it yeah all right what kind of shit did
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you guys talk about me while I was gone? Texting. We don't talk bad about you. No, no, I'm kidding.
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Does anybody want a popsicle? No. Oh, that sounds really good. Okay. I guess one for her.
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It's fruit. Okay. I guess that's two for over here. Uh, I overheard while I was gone,
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you were saying that something about body count. Yeah, I did. Could you just repeat it just from,
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I said that I don't think it's anybody's business.
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Well, what I said was I don't like when a man asks me what my body count is.
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Really quick, I guess, before we get into that segment, body count.
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Does anybody here think past should not matter, typically related to body count?
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Oh, Tatum, you did not follow the instructions.
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This is why it took you so long, even though I said how to do it.
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uh just i base more of like who i'm facing and the person that he is rather than but do you do
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you have an objection this is more so preference men have do you have an objection to men caring
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about this maybe it just comes down to preferences so
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like so is it wrong for men to care about it i think everyone can have their preferences i guess
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because let's say i prefer a guy that's six foot a guy is allowed to have a preference on that i
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guess but i under so we're we agree that people can have their preferences but in the analysis
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of the preference do you think maybe it speaks to something about the man maybe he's insecure maybe
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maybe a little bit yeah okay so you think it's perhaps even though he's allowed to have the
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preference as he is yeah you might think it's wrong not necessarily wrong but i do think it
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often stems from some kind of insecurity maybe insecurity yeah i see okay
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uh and those who said body count should not matter what about you
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i'm thinking about it right now because i forgot what i
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said before okay what about you why it shouldn't matter yeah like what i just i i know that uh like
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right now in society like we put a lot of emphasis on sex and like how many people you
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have sex with how often you have sex i just never saw it as like this big to-do so to me it just
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doesn't matter i just don't care it's not your business it's not my business if you wanted to go
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you know fuck 100 people in like the last 10 years i don't you know that's what you decided to do
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but to me i don't care but now if we're talking about like you're fucking 100 people and then
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like you got like you know 100 stds that's like yeah all right yeah but like take care of yourself
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obviously the question is uh body count some of you say body count shouldn't matter passion not
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matter uh what's your body count starting with you um so like can i have you speak to the mic
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including um my sex work career uh why don't you differentiate so sex work and then civilian
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so i began uh my career as a sex worker full service when i was 27 before that my body count
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was 33 uh and that was before the sex work yes and i've only since beginning sex work i've only
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added one to my body count um two to your civilian personal civilian life okay yeah um one person
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after my divorce um so in my sex work career I count all my clients but a lot of my clients I
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don't have penetrative sex with so it's really hard to count but I would say it's in like
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the the 300s probably okay total sure some of them maybe it's just oral sex some of them it's
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not even that hand job uh cuddling talking talking everything yeah but uh 300 from the
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sex work you said probably yeah body count i think it's a little tmi no it's not too much
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i'll say we've been talking about pussy and dick and yeah i'll say uh with my body count i could
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buy a trio book mac uh just one thing i i didn't say this this isn't your fault i didn't say this
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at the beginning um i noticed you kind of turn your body when yeah if you can't yeah just in
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that way just because this camera's here you start turning your face so go ahead uh yeah i just said
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maybe tmi but i will say with my body count i can buy a trio big mac i mean mcdonald's is getting
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expensive uh but uh okay i'll let you do do you want to do a range you want to tell us a range
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i think it was kind of kind of well maybe like is it more than 10 yeah more than 20
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in there yeah more than 30 no so between 20 to 30 okay body count i don't answer give us a range
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ballpark no no i just don't want yeah is it more than how about this is it more than 10
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i will not answer because i'm not comfortable with that and it's on the internet after that
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and it's just my choice before getting on the show she told me that was like probably one of
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the questions she wouldn't answer so okay uh body count um it's very important for me to keep it
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under 10 so it's under 10 yes okay what about you body count under 10
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earlier you said if you lied about your body count who would know so so are you lying about
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your body are you lying no you saw someone yesterday oh my god yes
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i totally forgot about that no we can talk about i hope he's watching too because china with the
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assist i'm gonna hire her as a co-host she's gonna keep tabs on the women please hire me i
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want to leave canada to be fair i wasn't a random person i've known him i've known him for a few
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years um i'm not gonna give all his info but you're a fucking liar you're a fucking liar
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wait wait but this is the first time you guys cracked yeah yeah how wait where are you from
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again new jersey jersey yeah and this motherfucker lives in santa barbara no no no no he's from no
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Like I said, I'm not going to give all his information because it's a little personal.
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He drove four hours and picked me up from the airport.
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I wish I could just fly into a city and some girl drives four hours to pick me up, give
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it wasn't like oh let me go to drive four hours and i'm gonna fuck i need to go definitely wasn't
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like that girl why can't i just go to saskatchewan and get me some canadian pussy like and just she
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drives from fucking toronto how far is toronto from saskatchewan oof i don't know oof yeah yikes
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montreal to toronto is like six hours no just kidding um what yikes no all in like montreal
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all to toronto is six nova scotia where's that where's like nova scotia yeah like that it's
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further down vancouver yeah vancouver is like the far end of it i think it's like 20 it would take
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like isn't it like four or five days to drive anyways yeah it's pretty far anyways uh body
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count under 20 under under 20 say it again under 20 okay cool i'm a virgin yeah we're sure we know
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multiply it by three and that's the real number just saying just saying uh okay so there's a
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body count thing look well really quick to address your point that you made while i was gone
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i think and when i say i think i mean i know uh i don't think you said okay well if the body
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counts 500 but who's gonna really ever know i could just lie i could say it's five and that's
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true like unless you have had close connection with somebody you can't really ever be all that
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sure like you basically have to be stalking this person to know for realsies what's up you know how
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how much uh they've done but i think it's like lying is bad i think you should be honest especially
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if it's like this is going to be somebody you i mean you shouldn't lie even if it's casual but
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if hey this is going to be your future boyfriend girlfriend started out on a lie i don't i don't
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like that i don't think you should lie i think you should be honest and shit because maybe what
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if it's a what if it is a deal breaker and they find out somehow i don't know maybe you got a list
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on your phone and they look at your shit and they find your list or who knows there's all kinds of
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scenarios and then you it's a day before the marriage and then he's like i'm done i'd be fuming
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day before the marriage shit i think that's fine it's the day before you get married and your girl
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comes to you babe before we're gonna get married i need to tell you something i told you i fucked
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five dudes i really fucked 500 that's a i'm sorry well that's a crazy yeah that's a big
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that's like calling it off okay fine come on calling it off saying you like 50 how about
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that 50 that's 40 is like all right 50 what about 50 though she said five still alive okay
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women with high body counts are satisfyingly more statistically oh sorry canada reads at 0.5
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speed so i have to do it oh you want i thought you want no you got it go ahead go ahead go ahead
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oh wait this is another one women with high body counts are statistically more likely to struggle
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with depression substance abuse and impaired analytical thinking women are not neurologically
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equipped to sleep around okay sure well what we do find so the more light i mean the more sexual
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partners you've had the greater chance of having an std the greater likelihood of infidelity the
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greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction the greater likelihood of
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divorce so it is correlated with uh some bad outcomes both ways so
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it to a degree but it's more this phenomenon is more observed in women than in men
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yeah like i know i i personally take it a bit heavier yeah whenever i add have add have added
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a body on and i just i know it's not me and i was like why did i do that like i've made mistakes
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obviously we're all human but um i mean guys i take my body count very seriously like you fuck
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a girl and then oh yeah i don't know how i feel about that yeah so body count very important to
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me true true it's kind of like you know what it is well i'll tell you this much i think when i say
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it's like it's different between men and women i think it's kind of like this the body count thing
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well this is a totally separate subject but fuck it i'm gonna say it anyways i think i brought it
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up last show and we're not going to linger on this but this is going to sound fucked up and
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you should never cheat i would never cheat on a woman you should never cheat but you know how like
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you know when i say but however it's kind of like you know if somebody says i'm not racist
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but you know how they're about to say some racist shit i'm about to say some fucked up
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shit but okay you should never cheat on somebody but i think as men you could love your girlfriend
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and you could fuck another woman and still love your girlfriend oh my god if a woman
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cheats on her man she does not love her man no both are fucked that's the wrong
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you should know you can't love someone and then fucking sleep with someone else
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look never cheat i'm not saying you should cheat don't cheat men shouldn't cheat women shouldn't
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cheat no double standard i'm just saying i believe i don't think you respect your partner
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in that might be sure that's not love i don't know if men require
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okay see what you're about to say you know that misogyny thing no no i don't think i don't think
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it's misogynist we're getting close to it no i don't think it's misogynist um maybe it's
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misandrist even uh i don't think maybe it is misogynist i don't know look i i don't think
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that men need to have wait how do i frame this that men necessarily need to receive
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this sounds so retarded because you're wrong i don't think men in order to love a woman
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Because if you love her you wouldn't want to hurt her feelings
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Wait, wait, I know it sounds crazy, but I think I'm on to something.
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Remember earlier when you called me out about contradicting myself?
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You're literally doing the same thing right now.
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Well, because I, okay, here's, I guess here's what I'm kind of getting at here.
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I think it's very difficult for a woman to love a man who's less competent than her.
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so like if the woman is smarter if the woman is more capable if the woman is uh well i mean
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smarter more intelligent i already said that um if the woman is
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um the i mean i guess this could be related to finances so like the higher earner
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it's hard for women in those instances i think to love a man women typically so women are
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hypergamous so women hi what's hypergamous so this can mean a couple different things
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but in this case typically women want to date men who are better than them you want a guy who
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has more confidence than you you want a guy who's more uh who's more intelligent than you you want a
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guy who's more capable than you so a man could like look at like if you're more can y'all date
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men who are less intelligent than you be honest no um but men can date women who are less
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intelligent than them and still love them so we might not respect you intellectually
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what what's wrong with that there's nothing wrong with that
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personally but what does that have to do with sex
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well we're not talking about multiple forms of intelligence
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yeah well there are there's multiple but like for example i i do think it's the case
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i don't think you're going to respect him i don't think you're going to love him to be honest
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maybe maybe this is bullshit though maybe i'm making this all up
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it is well but do y'all really i feel like women have the bigger issue when it comes to like men
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are more willing to we don't really prioritize that as much not to say that it can't be a
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positive attribute we don't really prioritize intelligence in that way like i'm not looking
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for a woman who uh i if she's not as intelligent as me i don't care yeah i guess uh
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some men would disagree or some men are are looking for that so there's just lots efficiency
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what i need is someone who in my they like their strengths are my weaknesses and vice versa
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wait you literally complained earlier about men who have bad grammar yeah but like i'm good at
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grammar sure but it's let's say i'm not manual so i like if he's not manual as well like how are
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you like how are we helping each other if yeah you know what i mean so okay it doesn't make sense
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so so i i could be smarter or better in certain things but if i'm better and smarter in all things
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then what's the point but if i'm smarter in certain things barrio thank you for the hundred
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thank you man can you read it okay western society feminized itself toward collapse
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unchecked female nature like eve pandora and callie leads to destruction before rebirth
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without masculine order civilizations falls something something oh my god okay wait so
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you said you said that um you you reminded me of the misogyny thing uh and you might think that
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that position is misogynistic but what are the other things that you feel like that i say maybe
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you've seen clips that are misogynistic i don't know i i just feel in a lot of situations you're
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like the man can do this but the woman it's not okay and there's like two a few have come up but
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i wouldn't tag you as a misogynist not just yet sure uh but i don't understand this this so i
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believe that uh this double standard thing it depends what the context is but there are there
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are all kinds of things that women uniquely expect from men so this idea that
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men need to be uh that men need to have the same standard for women that they have for themselves
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that's bullshit otherwise how would you arrive at men should pay on first dates
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i just think the person who invited the other person and let's let's test this out have you
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ever asked a guy out maybe i don't that sounds like a no and you're 29 years old
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you're 29 years old let me tell you this much uh a guy who never did that at 29 would still
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be a virgin meanwhile you say your body count is what 20 to 30 so i mean you've had relationships
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you've dated guys you've had experiences if you were a man if i put you in a man's body you would
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be a virgin so this idea that whoever asked should pay sort of conveniently glances over the fact
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that women are passive women generally speaking don't initiate exhibit a you've never asked a man
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out but you've had but not the first time around no no but i'm talking first date yeah of course
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you were in a three come on you're four four months into a relationship hey chad do you want
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to go get fucking tim hortons congratulations you asked you asked your fucking boyfriend out on a
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date i'm talking about first dates because the thing is whoever you're saying men should pay
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for first dates women overwhelmingly don't ask men out for first dates so that it's very convenient
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that y'all ignore that y'all don't ask me now if women ask men out at about equal rates maybe
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it's not 50 50 but 40 of the time women ask men out i'd stand with you and agree you know what
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whoever i should pay that's do you think the men shouldn't pay on the first date uh well it it
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depends what we're talking about well there you go same here well hold on so from a effectiveness
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perspective, the best move, if dating is a chessboard, the best move for the man to make
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is to pay for the date. Now, if we're having a conversation here outside of a date, I think
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it's bullshit that men pay for dates, complete bullshit, but it's the most effective tactics,
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so they should do it. And part of the reasoning is one, women are not traditional anymore. You
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frankly don't deserve it you women do not deserve chivalry and traditional treatment anymore you
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aren't traditional women men should not be traditional let's go 50 50 but you wanted me
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to give you 20 earlier well you didn't but i don't see how that'd be relevant to what that's a joke
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the 20 thing okay that's your rebuttal the the give me money segment is you say we don't
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deserve it but you're a man and you're asking all of us for money so you think you deserve it and we
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shouldn't yeah this is completely a like a false equivalence it's it's okay it's uh a funny segment
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i do on the show what does not pertain to my view of traditional treatment when it comes to dating
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uh at all okay well i for that specific dating area i think if the guy does pay for the first
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date it gives me an impression that like he's got it somewhat figured out and but i wouldn't want
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necessarily to for him to pay for every date i don't think that's fair okay down the line i'll
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pay for things too but the first one but so it's a double standard well what's good for one is good
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for the other but yeah well no no but here's the double standard men should pay on first dates
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ergo i mean just in and of itself women should not pay for first dates if men should pay for
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first dates women should not pay for first dates double standard so are double standards okay
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i just think that it if you want to show that like you got your things together and that you
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can provide and whatnot then yeah a little bit like you mentioned that's so that's not a response
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to what i just said that might be a justification for why men should pay for dates um however
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as a man shouldn't i want a woman who's got her shit together so why can't i start demanding the
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woman pay for dates so i know she's genuinely interested in me and she has her the second one
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it can be her can be her at her discretion although there's plenty of women who are not
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going to tolerate even that most a lot of women are not going to just be like well he paid for
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the first date now it's okay to go 50 50 a lot of women i don't know if it's the majority but a lot
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the women the man pays continuously like some of them want to free dates i understand that men
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want to and they do it because it's the most effective thing because women have more leverage
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in the dating marketplace however now that we're sitting on a podcast that discusses sociological
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phenomenon like dating uh i think it's fair to look at the chessboard of dating and be like
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do women deserve men to pay for first dates? No, they don't. What would a woman need to do
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to deserve it in your opinion? Sure. She should be, if men paying for first dates is traditional
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treatment and a display of chivalry, she should be the corresponding embodiment of a traditional
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woman. She ought to be traditional. Which is what to you? Sure. It's a couple of different things.
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I mean, it's her behavior. It's her demeanor. Is she more open to her traditional dynamic,
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which typically puts the men as leader in relationship uh she defers to him um she's
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modest she displays temperance in her behavior and temperance can also relate to like i mean
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she's not a fucking degenerate party girl alcohol alcoholic uh and then uh not prompt not
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promiscuous i feel like i'm forgetting one here not promiscuous modesty etc
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question yeah so this is uh deserving having the other person pay on the first date how does a
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woman demonstrate that to you before a first date that she's traditional are you like asking all
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these questions or is it just you judge based on the profile uh well look i also want to make
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something clear uh men who are meeting women through typical means whether that's in person
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or dating apps men don't have a lot of leverage when it comes to dating because they're the
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pursuers so women can kind of call the shots a bit more uh so uh wait so your question is
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how are you determining if she's traditional yeah i guess
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because it's before the first date so you maybe well okay i i mean i'll just tell you how i've
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dated for the past like two three years uh look and i've i'm 37 so this has not been the case for
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most of my life. Uh, but the past two or three years since I started the podcast, almost not to
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say I've, I've shot my shot here and there and you know, whatever. But, um, the majority of the women
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I've dated, they've all come to me for the past three years. Uh, they'll DM me on Instagram or
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whatever. And so that gives me leverage to call the shots essentially. So yeah, they're going to
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fill out my girlfriend application 100 questions i'm gonna fucking have what yep 100 question
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100 question girlfriend application uh can we see this application maybe one day i'll reveal it
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but there's too much it's too much sauce i don't give it away for free way too much sauce can we
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hear one of the controversial questions on there though just one sure i could give you a couple
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i mean i and look the thing is some of these women are they don't live even in california
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some of them are out of the country some of them are across the country east coast
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so if she's gonna fly out to see me like this isn't some just like oh let's go to a coffee
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do a 10 minute vibe check this is like more intentional right i need to make sure like
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there's like screening things i want that are like deal breakers and then there's other things
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that are maybe not deal breakers but they're um just to see you know okay not the preferable
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answer but it's not a deal breaker uh but some of them are just like just super blunt autistic
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fucking questions so it's just like uh i'm trying to i should just pull it up honestly
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not to show i won't show it i need to sell this shit yeah it's fucking good let me tell you i
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still need it i'm adding over time you know but uh okay i mean i'm gonna ask her about her drug
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use i'm gonna ask her if she's been to therapy are you in therapy i'm gonna ask if she takes
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was she the perpetrator was he the perpetrator was it
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I feel like those questions were valid, but I also feel like there's a part of that questionnaire that would probably be like, why are you asking me this?
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I can't even remember all of them, but it's literally like 100 questions.
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Some girls see it, and they're like, nope.
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So, yeah, it's just like, now look, you can't do that.
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You match with a girl on Tinder, you really can't do that.
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I mean, you could try, but they're probably not going to.
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They're going to be like, who the fuck do you think you are?
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I think you shouldn't go on a date with someone you don't think deserve to.
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i don't think you should go on a date with someone that you don't think they deserve
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you to pay for the date and isn't that the point of your questionnaire too like if they
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it doesn't fit with what you're aligned with why go on the date and if it does align then
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why not pay well i'm speaking more so about more like my because of my unique experience
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being on the internet, being on social media, I have this unique, very unique to men experience
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of like just women coming to me. But so what I'm talking about here, that's not the experience for
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99% of men. Now, a lot of women, y'all basically get that like men come to you. Um, but so what
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I'm talking about is like the average experience of dating for people, which is not the girls are
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hitting you up and they're groupies that's not the experience for the average guy but you're
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saying that girls don't deserve so to get the first date paid for but if a guy feels that way
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going on a date with me i'd rather him that we just don't go on the date yeah if he sure but
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so i understand that women can be the most degenerate ever and they could be doing only
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fans they can be prostitutes and men will take them on dates even knowing what they do and they'll
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still pay for the date so if they want to pay for it there's a difference between women still
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getting the treatment and women deserving the treatment and so i'm looking at the landscape of
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dating and i as a bird like bird's eye view down i'm looking at the the landscape and i'm like
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oh she fucked a guy last night that's bullshit she doesn't deserve she doesn't deserve traditional
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treatment she doesn't deserve it she shouldn't even ask for that yeah but if you're going on
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a date and you know that and you're uncomfortable with it why go on the date period i will so i
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agree i would tell men don't deal with these trifling hoes don't deal with them i agree
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But if they're voluntarily going on the date
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Okay, but here's the different framing then
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he should be obligated to have sex with her afterwards or like something of that nature
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he should be obligated or she no he he wait what she should be obligated to have sex oh sorry yes
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yeah yeah no i'm sorry we're picking up what you're getting at girl yeah like no yeah that's
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no that's cringe and men who do that are it's creepy no so okay if a girl cool just because
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a girl goes on a date with you she and you pay for it even as i don't care how expensive it is
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you are not owed anything as the man all right see this is how i'm saying that like sometimes
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your takes are like good and non right and then the other one before was just like yeah you know
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what i mean so i'm full of contradictions i guess but however this cuts both ways
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just because a woman fucks me doesn't mean i owe her a relationship i never said that
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hold on this has to cut both ways in the same way that women are not vending machines that
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you put niceness tokens into or dinner tokens into and you get sex out not the case men are not
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relationship vending machines that you put sex into and then you get sex out or wait hold on i
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fucked that up like sorry yeah men are not relationship vending machines where you put
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sex in and they get they dispense with a relationship yeah so this cut this cuts both
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ways but um no that is weird like look the the woman should want to fuck like that if she wants
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to fuck great but no you're not owed as the man you're not owed sex right if you take a girl
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that's stupid and it's kind of creepy but what on the topic since you brought it up
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do you think that it's creepy or weird for men to lie about wanting to be in a relationship to
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have sex so that after they have sex they're just like uh i'm you know i mean like it's wrong okay
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see some of your some of your points are good it is so yes i do think it's morally wrong
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for a man to in furtherance of trying to get sex from the woman uh to lie about his intentions
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yeah that's there's no no one's gonna ever convince me that that's ethical or moral that's
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clearly immoral right um now it's not a crime uh to be clear but and i don't think that you're
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suggesting it's a crime but it is clearly wrong clearly immoral um now however
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sometimes the pussy was bad just gonna just gonna throw that out there
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well in some cases the pussy can be bad no but look i think i think in some situations
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also y'all can fuck it up after sex so the guy could have had the intention of he wasn't playing
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you but then you did some dumb shit and then you want to play like oh he played me he just wanted
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the pussy and i was like nah you just did some stupid shit like sometimes women will fuck and
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they'll ruin the whole thing not even during i'm not even talking during the sex yeah but like i
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don't know she could just get on your nerves and you're just do some dumb shit and then you're like
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uh you fuck shit up sorry get on your arms before you guys had sex but i was sometimes women you
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know like how men well both men and women do this we hold back you know you're on your best behavior
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for the first okay i don't know if it's three months six months whatever men and women will
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be on their best behavior and then three months down the road there's some crazy shit happens
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yeah yeah yeah that's so happens both sides yeah i was told by a few of my guy friends that
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sometimes they go into it and they think they're really interested and they're like saying like i
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want this this this and then they hook up with a girl and it kind of leaves and they're like oh
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i just wanted to hook up like they've realized after hooking up with her like oh it's just like
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i actually wanted to hook up with her and then it happens they're like that's a good that's actually
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a fair point yeah i mean maybe this is the argument maybe women should be maybe women
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should be more more okay with like porn and masturbation because i think like post-nut clarity
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if the guy if if the guy is just on one hand maybe it's good for you women to deal with a guy that
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doesn't masturbate and watch porn but then you gotta this is so fucked up you also gotta think
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in the back of your mind if he's just horny and he's not busting nuts he might just be really
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horny and trying to fuck and then like he fucks and he's like oh i was just trying to fuck i oh
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my god i'm not even into her you know what i mean especially if he comes fast oh well there's always
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round two that's when you know that's when you know what that's when you know that he's he's had
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sex recently or if he or not or watched porn recently or something wait if he comes fast
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yeah it would be the opposite no i feel like if you've been backed up oh yeah no weeks yeah i
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got and you're saving it for for girly yeah my bad got it backwards yeah yeah it's all good um
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okay uh where were we how do we how do we get to all these segues
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yeah paying first date sure go ahead um oh paying for the first date yeah yeah no no you're in love
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with me what no um but not that i'm disappointed but every time i've seen some like sequences and
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stuff you've always done the ratings and you have not done it so you want me to rate you well just
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like uh i don't know it's like the thing that i see the most yeah we'll have us write ourselves
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yeah i thought it was in the beginning kind of yeah we'll do it soon we're a little behind on
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a few things here can you read this one for me thank you clan me okay the minute you start
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respecting a woman is the minute the the minute the stops effing you i have close to the same
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number as plain face chair too and no i didn't pay for it get another burrito brian well thank
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you clane i did i was eating a burrito back there as soon as your french friend comes back i'll get
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into some of the segments uh let's do hold on let me see if there's anything on let me i feel like
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i need to finish the questionnaire uh brooke lebedoo lebedoo lebedoo women can't be sexist
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towards men you agree with that why is that women can't oh did i not circle that one you did circle
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so you agree women can't be sexist towards men um i just feel like with a lot of the things it
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should be equal oh maybe you misunderstood then i don't know yeah i'm it's the question is more so
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do women have the capacity to be sexist like for example some people say uh black people can't be
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racist towards white people no i think any race can be racist towards any can any gender be
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sexist can women be sexist then yes okay so perhaps you mistakenly did that oh okay uh okay
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Taylor Taylor I need a Taylor E Taylor E what I do you circle the following thing you agree
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with the following statement women are just as physically strong as men why is that um I know
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a lot of female bodybuilders and I feel like I feel like if you put in the work you can I don't
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think naturally we are but I feel like there are plenty of women out there that put in the work to
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to be equally as strong as men in general though in general in what aspect i said that
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so in in general on average are men physically stronger than women yeah okay
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now how about this though a male bodybuilder compared to a female bodybuilder sure uh who's
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going to be stronger probably the male probably the male okay yeah um can any given woman ever
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be stronger than the strongest man probably not probably not or just biologically impossible
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uh well i guess logically it's possible like one of those things like statistically
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no logically superman is possible okay like it's logically possible the fly
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it's logically it's logically possible but um okay uh skipping off of that uh taylor e
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youth you agree with the following statement okay women do not have equal rights to men
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in the usa why is that so many so many things i mean we we talked about abortion already i feel
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like it's i i feel like you know not to go crazy into it but like certain states have changed laws
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i think that's wrong um but so sure putting abortion aside because you said so many things
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so putting that aside what are the rights uh what are the um
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so women do not have equal rights to men so what are the other ones i feel like financially
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nine times out of ten men make more um i know for a fact that there are business in corporate
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settings where men cannot even be qualified and women can be overqualified and women are still
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going to get paid less and i know you're making a face because you think that's like not true but
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nine times out of nine times out of ten it is true you know no nine times out of ten it's not
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true but um okay anything else yeah i disagree with that wage gap um i think that's the biggest
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okay well but so i'm looking for rights though so even if i were to grant that the wage gap exists
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which it doesn't really um but even granting if it exists i don't know how that'd have to do with
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the rights um maybe i just so what are the rights like what rights laws what rights do men have that
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women don't okay so i thought differently reading the question like okay that's not what i thought
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you meant that's what i was referring well then really quick i'll jump to abortion uh for 30
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seconds huh again well she said that it's uh she said that women do not have equal rights to men
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in the usa and she cited to abortion so the the argument here is that men don't have reproductive
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rights. So I don't know. You might say that abortion is women's rights, like a right that
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women uniquely can have. And men are actively taking it away from them. Well, the gender of
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the person who's taking away your rights would be irrelevant to whether the respective gender has
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the right or not. In this case, though, men don't have reproductive rights. So when we're saying
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between men and women so what i'm saying is women have arguably more rights than men on this
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particular topic in order to have equal rights which you wouldn't you would not want equality
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between men and women on this topic trust me men cannot force women to get abortions men can also
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not prevent women from getting abortions so in order to we we either have to okay if women are
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here we need to bring men up here so that would mean i don't think the pathway to that would even
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be men having a say on whether she gets an abortion or not although you could technically
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argue that it would be um paternal surrender where they don't have to pay child support
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or because that would be more equitable or if men are down here and men don't have abortion rights
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which they don't you have to bring women down here for equality which means no abortions whatsoever
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no abortion rights and that gets you equality that's equal so should we should we
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pedestalized equality in this case and take away women's abortion rights
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aren't they already being taken away uh so i mean roe v wade kicked it back to the states
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many states you can still get abortions uh it's not per state vote it's it's per state
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right so we're so currently we're in california women can get abortions in california and many
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other states yep they can in new jersey too right but so my argument here is if we're talking about
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equal rights right so like i said arguably you have to get rid of the question hold on arguably
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you have to get rid of women's right to abortion entirely for it to be equal between men and women
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but it's so different because the guy's not like having a child inside their body for nine months
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but remember the framing of the question i didn't serve women i know but women do not have equal
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rights to men so that suggests that men have a right that women don't so in order arguing that
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but i just said to put that equal it's not equal i agree not the yes i agree but i agree it's
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different but when she says if i if i ask an example of what are like women do not have equal
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rights to men abortion is incoherent okay yeah do you do you see do you see the argument on this or
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do I see the argument yeah I I the first thing I said when you explained was I misinterpreted
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the question as far as what you were looking for I can understand where you're coming from
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with your arguments even if I disagree but that was not how I interpreted the question I think
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that's okay okay but yeah so the question is though women do not have equal rights to men
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the wage gap is debunked it's been legislated if you can prove that the corporation is paying
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you as a woman less for a man who's in your role and your location and all that stuff
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all things being equal they're just being sexist you can bring a lawsuit it is there's a law
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protecting against that thing in fact oftentimes google did a self-audit and they actually found
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they're overpaying the women and actually god forbid you look at well i mean hold on oh is it
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revenge is feminism about revenge um but anyways if you look at uh hold on if you look at
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uh single if you look at women in cities who are single and don't have kids and compare them to
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their male counterparts oftentimes it's completely equal you look at a 30 year old woman who's single
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doesn't have kids 30 year old man single doesn't have kids live in the city they're making the
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same amount of money making the same amount of money men work more hours men work more overtime
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men are more likely to negotiate men are more likely to relocate men are more likely to live
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in like bumfuck northern canada working on some fucking oil bullshit uh with the chance of him
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losing fingers and dying whereas women want the comfortable air-conditioned office jobs
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feminism didn't exist 200 years ago there wasn't air conditioning back then now you want it now
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that civilization has become comfortable for you guys now you now you can have feminism 200 years
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ago you guys want to work the jobs men worked 200 years ago nope men still work those jobs
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y'all want to go into the coal mines nope may i cite something from one of my classes in my
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marriage and family sociology class or i don't have to but i can just um is it quicker um just
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that uh in a paper called the second shift by a researcher i don't it doesn't matter it doesn't
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matter who the fuck okay okay just citing my sources just um women who uh were in marriages
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who out earned their husbands usually did like all the housework as well and so they ended up
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just being exhausted how would this even if even granting it even allowing for that how would that
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be relevant to the discussion of oh well just because the women end up working double uh and
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so the wage gap is complicated in that women assume a lot of responsibilities outside of typical jobs
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um in marriages don't get compensated financially for it right but you know wait hold on if a woman
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will in a situation where a woman is a stay-at-home wife no no not a stay-at-home she is being
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compensated free everything she's working and then once she gets at home she does a lot more
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okay well how does that even granting that how is that relevant to the conversation at hand it's
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irrelevant just explaining what she was saying it's just like relevant to wage gap yeah and a
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lot of the ways that men contribute to the household are completely ignored this unpaid
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labor argument men are frequently uh the things that men do typically aren't going to be categorized
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men don't do this grievance victimhood thing with their household duties so that could be
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the home protection it could be you know mowing the lawn like there's not a really a consideration
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for some of the more heavy lifting things that men do around the house men aren't fucking bitching
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and moaning and becoming professional victims the same way women are about all the things that men
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do so ideally it would be a team partnership team partnership maybe yeah maybe anyways um
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what were we on before the oh the wage gap i mean i would also just cite to this that
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uh you're talking about the wage gap women don't get paid as much men are more motivated
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men are more motivated men work harder than you sorry like due to physical
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like strength just no and i'll explain it in the way that makes you all guilty of the thing okay so
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CHINA, YOU WRITE MEN SHOULD PAY ON FIRST DATES. MEN SHOULD PROVIDE. TATUM, I'M SKIPPING YOU BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CIRCLE.
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YOU SAID MEN SHOULD PAY ON FIRST DATES. MEN SHOULD PROVIDE. BROOK, YOU SAID MEN SHOULD PROVIDE. TAYLOR, NO.
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I THINK WOMEN SHOULD PROVIDE, TOO, IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
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provide so i don't know if it's the majority i know it is i think it's the majority of women who
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want men to pay on first dates and i think the majority of women want men who are providers
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i'm not going to say all women i would say most women do most men want women to pay for first
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dates do most men want women to be financial providers if and do you think men are more
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motivated to get sex than women are men yeah yeah sex to get sex and this is this you're you're you
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do prostitution exactly i think the fact that men are willing to spend money to get pussy whereas
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women do not spend some women some women very few and there's very few male prostitutes that
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well treat a female clientele there's like gay prostitutes or whatever gay for pay i guess
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men are highly motivated sexually romantically yes for you women to get a man we don't care
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about your money doesn't fucking matter doesn't fucking matter now hold on nope doesn't fucking
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matter doesn't fucking matter so as men if part of our access to sex to companionship to a
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girlfriend to a wife to one day having kids to continuing our bloodline which is our biological
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imperative to reproduce if that is dependent to some degree or perhaps to a strong degree
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on being at a financial point that women deem acceptable
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then the wage gap would simply be explained away by your own preferences and the pressure
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not the patriarchy not men the pressure you as individual women singularly and collectively
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place on men to pay for dates to be providers your own sexist standards create the wage gap
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if it even existed but it doesn't but if it did exist it would simply be explained by the fact
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that men are more motivated to get money we're more motivated than you i would say i'm highly
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well hold on so women hold on here's me being charitable
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both men and women need money to survive we need food we need housing we need shelter we need to
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pay for uh health care we need to pay we need to yes however so that's equal let's just say that's
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equal although technically you can even argue men have higher caloric require men need to eat more
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food. So technically, I mean, it's like maybe 5% higher for men because we need to eat more food.
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We have a higher calorie requirement. So technically our survival is more dependent
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on making more money. But in any case, going beyond that though, to another massive motivator,
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another massive pressure, if we don't make money,
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that's true that's true for so and would you guys agree that men are highly motivated romantically
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romantically well so when i say romantically this would be sort of an umbrella term encompassing
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like sex dating relationships marriage girlfriends kids yes like having kids yeah but women as well
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yes women okay well hold on i would argue putting money aside i think men are more
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romantically motivated than women are romantically yeah no i think that i think they are um perhaps
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you can dispute it a little bit but uh i mean how about this men are more sexually motivated
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yeah yeah but romantically i think so probably even women okay then even if it's equal though
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even if it's equal men still don't assess you by the money that you make i would agree men assess
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you by certain positive personality traits but primarily beauty but from my personal experiences
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um most men don't want to have to completely provide for like their partners so they don't
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necessarily mind if they do less but they still don't want to have to like take care fully of a
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second person so they do want to like build it i mean so okay there's a well there's a difference
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there's a difference here between attraction and economic and financial realism so i think someone
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could be attracted like to a person but then as a partner if like she's not working not doing
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anything and they'd have to fully take care of her they'd be like i'll choose someone who has
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well i would frame it like this so maybe it's the case that men out of necessity realizing that it's
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difficult to live and have kids raise a family on one income out of economic and financial reality
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and necessity they that might be like a bonus or a priority when potentially dating somebody
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however I would compare it more so to this when a man makes a million dollars a year he doesn't
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give a fuck about how much money the woman makes when a woman makes a million dollars a year she
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wants to date a man who makes a million dollars a year or more i don't know if you've watched the
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how's it called the secret life of mormon wives like all those girls are like making good money
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and they want their husbands not to work so that they can take care of their children
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the men take care of the children well so i have not i'm not familiar with the show you're talking
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about you're talking about like most likely a scripted reality tv show based in utah around a
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minority religion uh mormonism lds i don't know if that maps on to what happens on a reality tv show
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maps on to like the broader general cultural zeitgeist of all this my point simply being
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that my position is men are more motivated and if there even was a wage gap it would be
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explained away by not sexism from men, but actually sexism from you guys holding up this
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patriarchal structure that men should pay on first dates. Okay. If part of my access to
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getting a date, getting sex, getting a girlfriend, getting married, having kids,
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the initial entry point is I need to pay for the first date. That places a financial pressure.
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that places a financial burden on me that doesn't exist on you so it's like yeah i gotta make i'm
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not to be clear women care about more than just money it's not just money however it's a component
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of it you even admitted like oh if the guy is being a brokey blah blah blah it's it gives me
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the ick a guy who's a successful lawyer he'll date a girl who works at a fast food restaurant
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if she's beautiful okay not all of them but the reality is men and women prioritize different
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things the things you guys care about we don't necessarily care about and the things we care
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about you don't necessarily care about women like masculine men men like feminine women
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there's not symmetry there's not perfect symmetry in this case women prioritize a man's income
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more than women do it's not the only thing women care about but women care about it more than men
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do. If women care about it more than men do, then if men realize this, Oh, women care about money
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more than I care. Oh, okay. Well, here's my, if you're playing, like, say you're playing a
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video game, how can I, what am I going to put my stats into? What am I? Oh, okay. Um, I'm going to
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maximize my ability. One of the ways I can make myself more attractive is to become rich, to
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become successful again it's not the only thing women care about but if you tell men they should
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pay on first dates they need the money to do it the way i see it for dates is if you're
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not willing to pay on the first date you don't really give a shit so it's just a more of a like
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if you're somewhat it shows somewhat interest and investment yeah if you're not willing to do that
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well it just proves i mean i would actually argue that in today's society a woman who's willing to
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do that demonstrates way more interest than the reverse like a woman who's willing to pay for a
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date but she otherwise doesn't that's her showing way more interest than the man paying for for the
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date because that's like socially pressured whereas the woman doing it that's just like
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she's massively simping not massively but that's going beyond gender roles and she's willing to do
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this thing that women don't otherwise do and that would show more interest so it's like but it's
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like okay it shows that the social women also demonstrate interest yeah i mean i when i go on
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a first date with people i always offer to pay half i think i think it's partially from like
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past relationships and like financial I don't want to say trauma I don't think it's like that
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serious but just you don't mean like that thought in the back of your head like I've had people be
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like oh you just are with me for my money and I'm like I could care less about your money
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um and that is something that I definitely get backlash on like why would I ever offer to pay
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for a date but I never want someone to be like like that again to me like oh you are just with
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me for my money like that's all you care about because that's not true like I I work you know
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i mean a lot of hours every week if i go on a date with you i can pay my half this isn't me
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trying to get a free meal or go on some luxury vacation or whatever the case may be like i i
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can put up what i need to put up but don't think it's not appreciated if you
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oh she too much caffeine yeah okay she can just sit on the couch is she sitting on the couch
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Yeah, that's fine if she needs to take a little break.
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to speak to an advisor free of charge bet mgm operates pursuant to an operating agreement
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with i gaming ontario okay do you want to take a break and then come back
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we'll see okay well we'll continue on the show uh all right a few final things here from the
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questionnaire uh taylor a woman should not be rejected because of her weight why is that
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me yeah um i just don't really think like people have preferences you know um i know men that like
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bigger women i know men that like smaller women um and you know getting a little touchy i've been
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i have a lot of medical problems so i've been sick most of my life and you know going into my
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adult life I was 85 pounds when I was 22 years old you know so this is the heaviest I've ever
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been this is the fullest I've ever been and I think that like I haven't really seen much of a
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change like you know from when I was really thin to even now but I do see how people even like
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compliment like oh you look so much better you know I mean or whatever the case may be so I just
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think that you know judging a woman based off her weight is like it's not really something that's
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very uh you know what's the word i'm looking for like it's it it doesn't give the woman much
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confidence you know i mean in that perspective but yeah my job as a man is not who to a woman
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who i'm not interested in dating my job is not to give her confidence that's not my responsibility
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but rejecting her based off of her weight is like yeah it seems like you're you're looking for
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specific kind of a woman who's not obese no i look i will be the first to tell you i probably
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am gonna get so much hate for this i am very much like you know the whole like you should
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take care of yourself like you shouldn't be fat you should put in the work you should do all of
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the things um however you know some people do have hardships some things do happen i'm not saying
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like oh if someone's 600 pounds like you know i mean be like oh yeah you know don't reject her
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because she's 600 pounds yes someone is slightly like above average i don't think it's right to
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call them fat and be like you're ugly or whoa hold on you're smuggling in a lot of things that
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is not included in the this thing so uh a woman should not be rejected because of her weight no
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one nowhere in there does it say a woman should not be rejected because of her weight and called
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ugly and fat that's not granted well yeah but so that is part of weight is it not well no but
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i'm not suggesting here that men should call women i don't even think the man has to say
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why he's rejecting her i'm simply saying like okay you're on a dating app and the woman's fat
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is it wrong and the only thing you see wrong with her is that she's fat is it wrong to reject her
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so swipe no because she's fat no so she's the most beautiful woman on earth but she's just a
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little bigger you're gonna be like ill i'm not talking about me that's not for everyone but
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that's but that's why i said but i'm just yeah but why would you i mean you're in that case you're
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you're shorting yourself because like i said if you think she's the most beautiful girl on earth
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but she's just a little bigger you won't even like give her a chance what if what if she just
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needed like someone to come along and be like oh yeah we'll hit the gym and get back on the dating
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i guess but i mean this anyone has has any right to to decline who they want
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i oh can i say something yeah yeah on the topic yeah yeah um i think it's okay to have preferences
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in any shape or form but i don't think people should reject people based on their weight when
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it comes to like jobs or friendships or anything like that we're talking about dating though
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okay but more so in social dynamics but like if you're not attracted to people who are overweight
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you're allowed to deny like not wanted to initiate that that's fair for both genders
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yeah by the way i don't have a double standard on this if a woman doesn't want to date a guy
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who's overweight yeah it goes both ways it's okay for her to reject him so
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but so you think like let's just say she's fat but let's say she's like really nice or whatever
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is it okay for me to reject her i'm not saying it's not okay but i'm saying like
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if you that's why i said in this instance if you think she's so beautiful like this is no she's
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i don't think she's beautiful in the face there are plenty of women who only use their face because
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their face is a little bit less rounder but but i don't think you can force someone to be sexually
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for you to be sexually attracted to them if you're not you're not
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is it wrong for the man to reject a woman because of her weight no no well hold on she
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i'm trying to get an answer from her i explained my answer how much more do you want okay is it
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wrong for women to reject a man because of his penis size i mean i think that's situational
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let's say let's say it's it's not a micro penis but it's below average
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um fuck around and find out you know but there's other there's other possible ways to
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be pleasured by a man if their dick isn't big enough like yeah but so the question is though
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is it wrong for a woman to not i don't i wouldn't think it was like wrong but like that's what i'm
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saying i don't think it's necessarily like the end of the world for someone to reject them like i
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said everyone has a preference but to only base that off of your rejection okay i just feel like
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all right uh let's see i think we're on the questionnaire here uh men care more hold on
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yeah i'm wondering i don't know if we've wrapped up the thread on paying for the
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first date really men should not we talked about it for a period but uh i guess to quickly wrap it
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up my final position here is that i think there's an expectation on men even here in 2026 that they
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should be chivalrous that they should be these sort of gentlemen and then treating women
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traditionally i think we tell women uh we we tell women whether when they're growing up when
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they're young or at any time this is how you should expect to be treated and we tell men this
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is how you treat women but we don't tell men here's how you should be treated and we don't
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tell women here's how you should treat men here's how you should be we tell men how they should be
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we don't tell women how they should be a little bit like on like a little bit like sorry i didn't
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just like the hooking up part and stuff like that like it's not good you shouldn't hook up with
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too many as a woman you shouldn't hook up with too many guys because it's perceived this way
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but guys don't get that but then yeah but i from what i see what i see happening is that we still
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hold men to some of these perhaps even archaic traditional gender roles but we don't really
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hold women to any standard it's just like yeah like i just mentioned with the burden burden burden
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on the man to adhere to like a traditional thing but there's nothing we can't place any
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traditional burden on women which seems like a kind of bullshit deal for men that seems like a
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raw deal like so why should i pay for a woman who acts who's a modern woman she should be traditional
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why should i pay so i would say like for me and like thinking about chivalry the way that i was
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kind of taught about it is kind of like it's men showing politeness and in a way this is something
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that happened in my adult life that changed my view on chivalry and it wasn't about paying for
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the first date it was like i was carrying this suitcase and it was like really heavy i could like
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get it up the stairs but it was like a struggle and the guy's like oh i can take your suitcase
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and i'm like no i got it because i could physically carry it but then he picks it up with one hand
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and takes it up the stairs and it was like that moment then i'm like oh it's like the fact that
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he was capable of doing it and it assisted me and it wasn't such like a burden for him to do it like
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that's a sort of chivalry that i think everyone can have like opening a door for someone doesn't
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cost you a lot but it can really help the person behind you okay um but there's a difference there
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i think there's a bit of a difference between like a more like societal politeness and what
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we're talking about here which is a dating uh from a dating lens and dating perspective so
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um what is what are the like what are the ways we're expecting women to be chivalrous
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they're not chivalry is a male oriented thing yeah but men definitely should be paying
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more on dates like i always pay i always offer to pay and sometimes the guy like insists that
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he pays and then I insist okay well you get dinner I get the activity or you know and because men
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often obviously get forgotten dating wise and they deserve to be spoiled too it shouldn't just
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be just just on women uh wait I don't know if we did these can somebody tell me did we read this
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one did we read this one no uh can you read it I didn't use chat GPT I've done research
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we are in the late stages of a societal decay and feminism is a byproduct of mouse utopia
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the founding fathers were white protestant christians that dot dot dot created a society
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of a shared culture this is clearly chachi bt come on uh culture upheld by traditions and
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religion without law the death of god destroys families and morality ironically ending female
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independence okay all right we have this message thank you barrio uh we have clane here coming in
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oh wait did i do this one no go ahead read it can anyone define these two terms delusional and
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accountability rate your looks from one to ten can't use seven we'll get to that in a sec
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we got another one coming in if you could read this uh one sec it's coming in
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there it is chair one what's up doesn't understand the conversation she is more lost than the french
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girl that didn't understand the premise of the podcast her number is probably higher than her
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iq okay buddy okay all right all right uh okay so um he did wait i think we're oh wait we still
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have those but that's quick uh here let's do uh what the heck one sec i'm pulling it up can you
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pull up the gorlok one mine stopped losing gorlok all right on a scale wait uh dear
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okay here i'm turning on this yes welcome welcome back welcome back yes so it's true
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i've never seen the podcast i wasn't prepared at all i just can't don't worry about that
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yeah stupid guy there yeah wait what guy i just wanted to challenge me challenge me to
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challenge myself here to speak in front of people to expose my opinion but even to china or my
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friend i'm not able to talk about my dating life or something like that i don't know what happened
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in my head to think that i would be able to be you're fine you're fine the guy that's sending
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that message is like you did great no you're doing great hey you're doing great guys w w is in the
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chat for yeah the guy that sent that message here sing sing the national i'm not going to pass
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sing the marseillaise with me i don't sing very well go ahead keep going i'm not a singer come
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well done okay all right uh so we have a question though since you've rejoined us
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on a scale of zero to ten rate your own looks face body total can't pick seven
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okay well what i wrote there is i think in canada i'd be like an overall eight personality perhaps
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an 8.59 but um from like la u.s whatever like la santa barbara standards probably like a six
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okay what about you well according to your scale your well you just your own thoughts
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well i think that well the number gets compared to your number so it's like on your scale and i
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Okay, so my whole thing is that the guy, my soulmate, is going to see me as a 10.
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And I'm going to see him as a 10, even though we're probably both not 10s to the rest of the world.
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I think that I would be lucky in your rating system to be a 6.
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It really depends on my mood, on how I feel at the moment, on how I'm dressed.
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If I sleep well, the period of the month, so it's a lot of parameters.
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yeah sometimes i can't even watch myself in the mirror or something like this or sometimes i'm
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like oh yeah today is my day yeah yep okay yeah personality just throw out the nuts i guess
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right now five okay five all right face five body five total five five wait can we do oh shit i
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fucked this up uh face body total so for example i'll do me face 4.5 body 4.5 total 4.5
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and you can do you can have different ratings into the mic face five bodies six total 5.5
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okay cool what about you i'd probably say face six body eight total six okay what about you
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face five body four total four by the way that girl who was who left unfortunately she did give
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herself a 10 but she left yeah i saw she wrote it on her paper uh okay so let me just see six
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five yeah okay wait taylor e you said eight i said eight oh did you say yeah i said six eight
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doesn't wasn't listening i guess sometimes i do that when talking to women just kidding um
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it's okay you guys zone out when you're listening to me too for sure yeah all right so uh okay you
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asked me to do the ratings i'm gonna do them super quick uh you gave yourself a usa six like an la six
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oh you have a lip flip yeah yeah what did it was it what it looked like before um pretty like do
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you know what a lip lip is yeah it's weird yeah it's it's not the same as lip filler it like i
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don't know the procedure or whatever but it's different but i have like a big a bigger lower
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lip and then i guess wait can you turn your head that way
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i think they actually you know what normally i'm i'm really not a fan of lip filler but you
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got a lip flip which is kind of different they actually did kind of a good job for you on the
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lips yeah they look natural good for you um okay uh rating though should we have everyone take off
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or makeup uh i don't know it's hard to sometimes do an assessment with makeup but uh and you have
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the nose drop too any botox uh how many how many units of botox or whatever like 10
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i think i'm comfortable putting you at 5.5 to 6.5 uh tatum you gave yourself a six
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and your rating system i can't i think i'm gonna put you at a 4.5
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4.5 tatum oh my god yeah uh you you gave yourself you gave yourself a six right not with five
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oh five she downgraded i'm gonna be nice i'm not gonna what are you talking about
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i'm a nice guy what are you talking about what are you talking about you mean with me don't
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be mean to you okay she that's weird that you're into that but okay you should see a therapist
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about that um i am don't worry about it checks out all right so uh my dear well of course i've
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got to give the french girl a 10 of course as a friend uh as a friend you know solidarity french
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solidarity i'm russian too my mom is russian okay so lower my rating uh okay so you you gave
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yourself a six uh well you're not wearing much makeup are you maybe a little bit but not really
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i think she has no words i think i give you like five i give you five uh okay you gave yourself a
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five uh huh you're an interesting case why you're an interesting case why
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um did you want the honest answer yeah well i think there were okay there are some aesthetic
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components to you what the fuck that sounds so autistic like you have you have some traits that
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are above average and then other traits that might be below average facially so there's like
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a disharmony there that sounds so bad but um it's okay uh so like i think i just yeah i think
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five i go with five uh you is that your natural hair color what are you are you mexican what
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are you i'm african-american yeah you're part black i knew yeah i was like i feel like she's
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black like you have a black phenotype like full i mean like wait can you scoot into the table
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you're too far from the mic scoot the chair scoot the chair chair yeah no i mean i i got that
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impression a little bit that you might be fine no it's not i'm not saying it's a bad thing but
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so your dad's like one of your parents is black but i'm african-american both my parents are
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african-american like both your parents are black i mean like uh skin color wise they don't have the
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same skin tone but they're both african-american i'm not biracial if that's what you're asking
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you're not part well i mean like if biracial is one parent is one race and the other parents
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another race i'm not that they're both black full black well it's not like i mean like you know
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being in america it's usually not full wait okay let me make it simple wait wait let me make it
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simple do you see the woman sitting next to you our black queen of the night
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do both your parents look like her their skin color no but can i be clear that like it's a
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phenotype thing where like i have i'm african-american like no one would call me
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white if they knew my heritage it's just a phenotype thing but what is the skin color that
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one or do one of your parents have her skin color close to that skin color yes okay so you have like
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basically biracial parents no so the thing they're straight black so how the fuck you
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get red hair motherfucker so how you get that red hair so i i'm jamaican i'll say that so wait let
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me ask the sister over here have you ever seen okay to be fair i'm really dark right now i just
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i just got no no i'm just you are you are a black woman yes have you ever seen a black woman yes
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with red hair yes this is a wig just weird but oh shit it's a wig yes yes take that shit up no
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I'm actually technically African American, too.
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my dad was born excuse me uh my dad was born in algeria which at the time that's north africa
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algeria used to belong to france so my dad was born in algeria africa my mom's american
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dad born in africa mom born in america technically technically i'm african-american
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that's really far-fetched thank you no i'm not black i'm not black but technically i'm african
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american can you read this my canadian best friend body five three four six three five seven
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face three four three five three four seven i'm glad you can count till seven okay claim
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all right uh minimum yearly wait we were talking about wait oh the looks rating oh shit i didn't
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even finish uh you could shit okay um you know what well i'll say it afterwards um 4.5
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okay good talk uh what is the minimum yearly oh and they underrated us but maybe who knows
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the one thing i was going to add a woman can make up for you know how i said like if a woman
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hasn't any she has to make up for it a woman can compensate for her looks if she has a large labia
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so here's this here's the here's the math here's the here's the brian math on it yeah
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Let's say she's a four, like looks, body, whatever.
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And then the big five, this would be like world record Guinness
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to get plus five on my scale so she's a four but she becomes a nine this is like the biggest
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pussy lips in the world she becomes four to a nine wow but just excel four to seven
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she becomes a seven if she has a giant labia no sorry excel labia my bad great that's great for
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you thank you it is great for me whatever pelotes your boat big labia matter what's up
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what's up brian is a lying he's in fact a chubby what what the fuck chubby chaser all right thank
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you for sharing that appreciate it uh what is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband
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quick answers if you can please um i said 100k but um i think in the u.s it's kind of like
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the cost of living is higher and and stuff so it would probably be different but in canada to be
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my husband not boyfriend husband 100k okay what about you quick answer um ideally more than me
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okay what about you 60k what about you 100k 100k okay i said equal or more so what how much
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as like whatever i'm making or more all right what about you
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don't really think about it don't really care so you'll date a guy who works at mcdonald's
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I'm five, three, and I wrote five, five, but I think I should put five, eight.
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we're going to do the rapid fire segment next
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there's a few notes to wrap up and then hopefully we
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So the question is would you date the male version
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Question was there something I asked you guys to remind me of
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okay I think we're done with the questionnaire then
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guys if you're enjoying the stream like the video please
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if you want to learn how to become a master debater
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debate university.com all right we have where is it where did my notes go all right uh oh man the
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asian girl left fuck i had a question for her oh well snooze you lose i guess well you didn't rate
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her so what do you rate her she's not a 10 i'll tell you that much damn well rater i don't know
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she's got a fucking 10 pounds of makeup on plastic surgery out the wazoo lip filler out the wazoo
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who knows what else fake lashes that could reach fucking taiwan
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i honestly i mean you take all that shit off she's probably a five
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maybe who knows who knows it's a mystery under all that makeup you don't even know
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how can you even know i don't i don't know uh let's see here
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wait it doesn't matter when you wait it doesn't okay they could have posted it 10 years ago they
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all knew who's going to be on the panel you could still pull that shit up all right um
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wait where were we oh patriarchy uh a movement towards egalitarianism with a rejection or
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deconstruction of the patriarchy that's your definition of feminism well hold on uh there's
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again there you are right there are varying definitions of feminism uh so the charitable
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definition wait hold on well the definition they might say is that uh equality i i strive towards
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equality on average for people but i don't like like strict i don't like the arguments where it's
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putting someone in an inferior position to correct something i like the idea of getting like more
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like toward equity is better than stagnation or trying to oppress someone yeah well i'll just
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tell you my position on feminism and then you can tell me if it parses for you so the most
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charitable definition i would give it is women's advocacy so not equal rights not equality women's
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advocacy now there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy but don't parade your movement as caring
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about equality i think that's fair so for example if there's a form of equality that would not
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benefit women feminists won't fight for it even if it's equality i think that is something that
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we've seen happen so we agree now my definition goes my true sense of feminism goes beyond that
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so it does do women's advocacy so feminism is women's advocacy plus bundled together with it
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sort of inextricably inextricably inextricably interconnectedly feminism is anti-male
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but like you can advocate for women without putting men down yeah i totally agree with you
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you absolutely can uh advocate for women without putting men down feminists have a lot of difficulty
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doing that though i i agree with that to a certain extent i do like a lot of feminist women are very
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anti-men camera please sorry repeat that I said I agree with that to a certain extent I said I
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think that a lot of feminist women that are extreme feminists are very anti-men they're
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they're pro-women and that's not to say that they're necessarily wrong and what they believe
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you could believe what you want but I agree with what you said they are like very anti-men I will
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argue then I'm not saying that I agree with this but some people would argue if you're not radical
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you can't bring people to center i'm not saying that i support that but i see some people saying
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if you don't do these radical things it will never get awareness it'll never be talked about
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you can't even have the conversation because you're not it's not in like the zeitgeist i guess
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i think anyone that's extremist in their beliefs is not the right way to go like left wing or
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right wing i think the best place to be is in the middle and that both have their pros and cons and
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we should just take the best out of both here really quick um nathan can you just pull up uh
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it's in the resources tab not like the one you have to scroll down for it's in the media and
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you're going to scroll up like three posts there's like black and white photos with captions uh we're
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just going to show you some quotes from some famous feminists throughout history do you have
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it yeah okay pull it up all right uh can i have you read these quickly if you can i want to see
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a man beat into a bloody pulp with a high heel shoved in his mouth like an apple in the mouth
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of a pig next andrew dorkin very famous feminist to call a man an animal is to flat is to flatter
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him he's a machine a walking dildo that's the woman who tried to kill andy warhol next she wrote
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she wrote the scum manifesto very famous uh feminist piece of literature go ahead i will
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say that whatever i'm saying is not from me but from what i'm reading yeah from what you're reading
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if life is to survive on this planet there must be a decontamination of the earth i think this
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will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the
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population of males next i feel that man hating is an honorable and viable political act next
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no woman should be authorized to stay at home to raise her children women should not have that
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choice because if there is such a choice too many women will make that one simone de beauvoir very
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famous french feminist or wait is she canadian i'm pretty sure no she's french probably french
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it's just you know the canadians are kind of french so next the proportion of men must be
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reduced to to and maintained at approximately 10 percent of the human race yikes yikes big
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feminist there next notice the armpit hair the more famous and powerful i get the more powerful
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i have to hurt the more power i have to hurt men next the nuclear family must be destroyed
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Whatever its ultimate meaning, the breakup of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.
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The end goal of feminist revolution must be the abolition of the nuclear family.
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The first condition for the liberation of the wife is to bring the whole female sex back into public industry.
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and this in turn demands the abolition of the monogamous family
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You know what gives me the ick when a woman can't read?
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Because you said guys who don't have good grammar give you the ick.
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So, okay, finishing up, or let's do the questionnaire here,
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or not the questionnaire, the rapid-fire questions.
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I guess we'll go center, and then we'll either do split,
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No, but what, I know we're human, yes, but what species are we?
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Like, uh, trying to find the English word for it, but.
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We're part of the, yeah, I don't know, skip me.
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It was the language barrier that caused problems.
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two countries in europe um tiffany if you can go center when i ask the question and then
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swap to when they respond germany and sweden right you are correct how many planets in our
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solar system to you 12 12 okay no um eight nine if you count pluto but now
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it's a it's called like a dwarf planet uh question for you next to me what planet do we live on
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earth earth anybody disagree no okay question the government building the pentagon is what shape
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a pentagon final answer yeah you're correct congratulations
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uh what what country is directly north of mexico directly north of mexico yeah
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you'll no say you'll no say what's that i don't know you don't know what okay
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uh directly yeah what country is north of mexico north the united states yeah wait on the map
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yeah so not when i say when i say on the map i if i ask you what direction is something
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if we if you're just thinking here it's like okay well where's north that's unfair but on the map
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where is with your finger point to where north is where's south i have a trick never eat sour
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watermelon oh that's good that's good why actually though why should you not eat sour watermelon
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it's just a trick okay uh what you purposely ask these questions nine eight nine hours in do you
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right that is not true that is so true it's just it's boring for the viewers to hear the shit
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early on well so you're purposely doing it yeah but not for the reason you think okay
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i mean hold on i could be drunk not that i drink i could be drunk out of my mind
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stoned off of weed stoned out off of meth on heroin speedballing about to go get fucking
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my third bbl i could be on my third bbl surgery they're literally putting the anesthesia into my
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fucking arm i'm in the twilight i'm dazing and somebody asked me these questions i can answer
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all of them bruv that's a lot of confidence i'm very confident in my ability to answer these very
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simple questions okay what continent is brazil in uh south america what continent is egypt in next
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to me i don't know egypt africa wait come on thank you guys okay what continent here if you
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get one wrong you get a speed round i guess you get a redemption round what continent is japan in
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for you? Asia. There you go. Got it right. How many dimes make a dollar? A 10. What is the capital
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of France for you next to me? Capital of France is Paris. You are correct. Capital of Japan.
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What country is immediately south of the United States?
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If today is Monday, what day is it in three days?
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thursday monday yeah oh yeah thursday okay uh what is the name of the famous car company founded
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by henry ford ford well done congratulations uh let's see what is five times five 25 12 divided
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by three um four 100 divide by four 25 15 plus 35 50 90 minus 45 90 minus 45 is
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45 correct uh i'm skipping a bunch of these how many stars are on the u.s flag
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50 yep what century are we in 21st century what galaxy do we live in the milky way
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uh what country did the united states gain its independence from
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to my black queen my black queen is crazy britain britain okay um who was the first
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president of the usa i'll give that to the canadian yeah i actually i'm not the first
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president of the usa i got you girl for you first president george washington george washington
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well done what country is the great wall of china in china china of course of course i've
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show us your tattoo again yeah let's do it face this camera here so like your face you're gonna
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face tatum for this one no here put your hair yeah there you go all right made in china made
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in china love it beautiful we're made in france um okay let's see uh how many days of the week
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end with the letter y all of them well done what language do the people in idaho speak
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well done uh if a dozen eggs costs three dollars how much is each egg
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repeat the question if a dozen so 12 a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg
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yeah that's correct what is the closest start to earth
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the sun are you sure i think so final answer yes i'm not too what what country is the panama canal
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in for you no fucking idea panama oh there you go i didn't graduate high school uh what language
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do people in mexico speak spanish if you pass the person in second place what place are you in
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if i pass the person in second place what place are you now in first place no okay what do you
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think first okay pass the person in second place yeah what place are you now first first okay
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first first okay second second okay second second okay it is second place
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can you repeat the sentence well you didn't pass the person in first place there's two you passed
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this person so you're not okay roll your eyes like it doesn't make sense all right uh what
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country we need i should ask this to the french girl what country is the eiffel tower in paris
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i'm tired 100 100 minus 66 100 minus 66 is 34 who is the current u.s president
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what is 100 minus 34 for you i'm just minus 100 minus 34 is um 60
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Okay, if you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
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110 yeah how many world wars were there uh two look in my sorry two uh potentially three
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potentially three okay how many world wars were there some rumors two two going around uh world
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war like world war one world war two yeah how many those are the only ones that count or are
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we counting like weird words no just world world okay but then two okay two but in the media and
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stuff they're talking about a potential 11 world war 11 no ilhan omar no i'm just hearing that
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like things are happening right now okay uh what decade so when i am asking what decade
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1820s 1970s decade what decade was world war one
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20th century that's a century decade so i'm looking for decade
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19 uh 1910 there you go okay uh let's see here can you name three kardashians of course i can
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by the way we will accept jenner's so you can do kardashians or jenner's so first we have
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kourtney kardashian followed by kim kardashian followed by chloe kardashian then there's rob
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kardashian and afterwards there was kendall jenner and then kylie jenner if you want i can also name
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all their kids yes wait wait wait quiet quiet quiet do it like 90 okay so first courtney had
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um i gotta go uh so wait we gotta do your notes just wait courtney had almost there
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She had, uh, Northwest, then, um, St. West, Chicago West, uh, Chicago West is the last
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and after that uh chloe has two kids she has truth thompson and um tatum thompson
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then robert kardash who the hell you asked i'm answering but you could uh just to skip ahead
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you could list all of them yeah and then just list the jenners really quick though uh well
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it's kendall and kylie but they have stepbrothers don't worry about those yeah we don't we don't
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worry about those uh okay so we're let's see here uh you're dating a guy do you have a celebrity
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crush yeah uh robert rosh he won the traitors usa the i'm sorry the what robert rosh he was on um
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love island is that guy your celebrity crush is a reality tv star not like an athlete not a hockey
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player not william gretzky no um i try to avoid the hockey players tbd to be honest tbd yeah yeah
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your dad told you stay away no i just saw i just saw how he rolls and how some of my siblings
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okay um so you do have a celebrity crush though
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if you could hook up with him would you like not with my current relationships yeah yeah like a
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hall pass would you do it uh not in my current relationship status but if i were single for
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sure if you were single for sure okay all right um cool anybody here would you okay say you're
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married but it's like your celebrity crush and say your partner's okay with it i feel it wait
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that kind of changes things would you do the hall pass no no okay all right skipping that one then
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uh what percentage of men do you think are over six feet and i mean you only want to do it depends
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on the country usa usa um 20 okay next i probably smaller than that i don't know maybe just throw
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out the number uh 10 next you said strictly in the u.s yep 50 next six oh closer to mike's guys
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12. 25. And you said 50%? It's actually 15% of men are six feet or over. What percentage of men
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make at least $1 million a year? In the U.S., I think it's like one out of 10. There are like
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one out of 20. 10%, 5%? Let's say 10. Okay, 10%. I would say 3%. 3%. 5%. 5%. 0.1%. 0.1. 1. 1.
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one one percent well i'll say like net worth maybe not salary
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yeah uh what percentage of men do you find attractive now this is when you're single of
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course oh my god of the men in your age range to be clear obviously i'm not expecting you to
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be attracted to 60 year old men 10 unless you are which is 10 right off the bat without talking to
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them talking to them seeing in the street 10 yeah tatum i would say a lot higher uh just
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50 40 30 80 60 higher 100 you want to fuck them all it's like pokemon she wants to fuck them all
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all right what about you 10 10 10 5 5 50 50 i would say it's pretty 50 50 all right what about
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you 30 30 what percentage of men do you think have yachts have what yachts like the boat
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oh um one percent one percent yeah um point one person i'll say three point oh one percent
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point one percent point two percent do any of you keep a list of all the men you've been with
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on your phone no yes like sexually it's got a mental list like on your phone you know like
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in the notes no you you no yes you yes yes yes you guys down to read it no you're down to read it
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the list um no do you keep is it just like name date or like it's kind of detailed like a dick
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rating or some shit no no no not even that but like other things yeah uh real quick sure how
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the fuck am i supposed to remember that shit from 20 years ago that's why you write it down well i
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mean so i'm 37 i lost my virginity at 17 weren't you a virgin huh right weren't you he was 10
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minutes ago yeah uh so i remember people i've had sex with 20 years ago like i mean
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say like all of them oh all of them you don't how many people were you fucking 10 10 20 years ago
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whatever that's where i did my majority of my fucking actually well i mean that's typical when
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you're younger people yeah it probably depends how much like how how many people okay how about
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this um under 20 and i'm gonna answer this too have you ever slept with someone the same day
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you met them i have i don't know close to it but not right you're a fucking liar
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look think like some some like like mountie with like the rcmp or whatever you know he like
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went to canada and like you know he uh i'm telling you maybe like 48 to 72 but not like
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like 72 you know 72 yeah but like i mean he's like you know part of the he's got like that
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red uniform and stuff and you thought that was like really attractive not my cup of tea but
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not your cup of tea no okay sound like the guy from frozen the fuck no but it's like you've never
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been to like a hot nightclub in like toronto and like maybe i brought them over but i didn't go
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the oh but what about like a little blowy and like the back of the tim hortons or whatever you know
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okay you don't like to go to tim hortons but like what i what about like i don't know like
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you get some poutine and then he gets some i don't like poutine either i'm pretty picky when
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it comes to food and men but like okay you've never like met a nice guy at like a nice like
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manitoba like nightclub manitoba oh okay like maybe vancouver like you're in vancouver and
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you found like a nice guy and you had sex with him not in vancouver huh not in vancouver so
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you're telling me like a girl like you you've never been to like a nightclub and you've never
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like had the sex with as a man like quickly i brought the man over but uh not necessarily
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the whole shabang right you know this how when i start to do it she's doing it
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but like why don't you do it like you know um because uh i want uh the man to run out
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to like you know have to work for it a little bit so you like wait until like the second date you
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know uh i say maybe a third you betcha yeah it's kind of like a rule i try to yeah
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well i mean you're a prostitute so yes what about in your civilian life though you
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fucked right away same day in my 20s when i was racking up all the numbers racking up
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the numbers okay what about you same day yes not proud of it but not proud of it what about
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you no never no okay you just haven't met a guy who can knock your wig off yet my wig no oh you
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got a wig on no that's what i'm saying her like she just hasn't met the kind of guy that just
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blew her wig off i mean i've only been wearing a wig for a year that was pretty good nobody
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yeah all right nobody gives me it's a tough crowd tough crowd all right well uh same day
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Oh yeah, you fucked a guy here in Santa Barbara
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Same day, all right, okay, we've all done it
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That French girl who's sitting on the couch
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you know you're just like sleeping with all the guys in like quebec you know
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but what i will say is like i keep myself to a pretty high standard but when i haven't done
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anything for a while sometimes i go on discount you know just for a very short period what do
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you mean by wait what do you mean by discount you know um well like usually i aim for like
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this kind of guy and then like i don't know i just go on discount for like a short amount of
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time and then you know lower the standard rate yeah okay yeah i like that yeah you have to be
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lucky to fall on a discount but if you do good for you that's why it's called getting lucky for
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men you gotta right place right time you gotta be in the you know in the the best uh montreal
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nightclubs and just stumble upon her and she's just horny or some shit but for the most part
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y'all can't afford me wait so you're saying you you've had wait question i guess question for all
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the women like those of you who have like hooked up like quicker whether it's like the first date
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second date third date but then you meet a guy you really like do you make him wait
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i'd say the more like the more i like him the more i'll make him wait because i potentially
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want something more serious out of it see that seems backwards like i feel like if the guy is
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the one that you think is relationship worthy you should let him fuck right away and then the
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scumbag dudes that don't deserve pussy well you just shouldn't give him pussy to be honest i guess
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but like the guy who you're like oh this is the guy who's like a good man and i could see him
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being the father of my children and i could marry him and be in a relationship with him that's the
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guy who's got to wait three months six months a year marriage no that's too much the length of
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time aside that's the guy that the like think about it from this perspective imagine this
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imagine if i said you know these hood rats these rapscallions these strumpets i'm gonna take them
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on trips i'm gonna take them on vacation i'm gonna buy them gifts i'm gonna pay for dates i'm gonna
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to buy dinner. I'm going to, you know, give her all this attention. And I tell you, the girl who
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I think could be the one who could be my girlfriend, who I'm serious about, well, they were just for
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fun. They were just, they were just sex. For you, I think we should wait for all that stuff. Maybe
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when we're more serious, maybe when we're married, then I'll give you the gifts. Then I'll take you
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on vacation then i'll pay for dates then i'll do xyz you would be like that's backwards my take on
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it is that maybe for him unconscious unconsciously to do it more like quicker will turn him off or
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make him less interested so i don't want to take that risk if i am interested so i'll like make him
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weight more and show him that i'm serious but if i right off the bat i'm like yeah
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the thing is is i think look if the guy really likes you you fuck quick you fuck yeah but it's
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always different for like for some people it won't be a problem or it won't change anything
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for others it will so i'd rather just not take the risk if i uh yeah but i guess the framing
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here i think it's fair to think okay well maybe the guy might judge me for it or whatever but
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again bird's eye view looking down at the dating landscape i think it's kind of bullshit that
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a girl who has no issue fucking quickly she's gonna tell me oh he was just a fuck boy he was
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just for fun he was just he was nothing to me it it was just fun it was stupid it didn't matter
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so you're telling me i'm the guy that's important
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and i gotta wait for sex that seems like stupid like that's backwards no but how i am i just like
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don't want to put in myself in a position where i can be mistreated or used or whatnot so i just
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tend to make them wait a little bit because good things take time what's your body count again 20
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to 30 yeah were they all boyfriends not all of them because you said sometimes you have your
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moments your discount days coupons at the happy hour okay would you prefer to live in a world
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without men no no nobody we need men yeah no okay um let's see here oh does any anybody here more
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liberal okay oh well fuck okay i'm gonna ask it because it'll still be funny um do you believe
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in reparations for black americans so i believe i believe reparations were good for people who
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I mean in 20 let me put it this way in 2026 probably not but historically they did serve
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a more direct cause and effect sort of thing okay um but like just giving say we just like give
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black people just like ten thousand dollars as reparations if it's 1890 I think that's good
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because it makes sense given the historical context but in 2026 it doesn't make sense
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okay you should have said well i guess something i like to do on the show if there's like white
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liberal women and there's like a black girl i try to get them to give her reparations
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but you're black yeah but well you're african
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this is hard for you a little bit i mean like you
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you look i don't know how the fuck you know what i mean you know what i mean like i know
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what you mean because i've lived with myself my whole life i know what i look like i don't know
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what to tell you wait um okay wait oh oh okay hold on oh oh can you say the n-word i mean
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i wouldn't but hold on you're so but is that a good reason to disrespect people based on their
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race wait disrespect people oh it's a disrespectful word that's why we call it the n-word no but
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black people are allowed to say it but it's a but i in my heart i know it's a disrespectful
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world and i wouldn't say that but i feel i guess the question that i'm what i'm trying to get at
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here is so you're you are i mean i would frame it as biracial but you said i'm not biracial
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but you're not like black okay but i it's a i'm genotypically black phenotypically
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like you can see me no but okay how about this your skin color is white that's correct
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but you are part black i am african-american you're african-american but like i feel like
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if a black person from the streets heard you dropping the n-word they would be upset but i
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wouldn't do that right right nathan you know the streets you know i'm talking about yeah
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And nowadays women don't respect themselves at all
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Ain't no respect we ain't getting no respect
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So where I didn't really care for respect before, didn't give a shit about myself, I do now.
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what's a hard what do you would define smack heroin black tar heroin crack cocaine no i had
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an adderall addiction methamphetamine i am sober now crystal meth okay cool uh let's see here
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hold on okay so i have shy in those notes i've got your notes boom boom boom wait we got brook
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part one we did some of your stuff we did the debbie father thing old-fashioned i think we
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did old-fashioned yep we did your notes so i just need to do
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uh okay we did tay i need to do tatum i need to do cheyenne and then i need to do her friends
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excuse me china and then we're done i think i can blast through it within 10-15 minutes
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so um yeah i think we just have to do the notes and then we're done all right tatum mcdougalson
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can your french i have her notes excusez-moi no uh excuse me
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uh why why are you speaking on her behalf um i spoke to her and she's out i'm talking to her
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right to know why do you say no what is it huh gets what what's there to get she said she was out
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and she's out into the mic she said she's but remember earlier when we were talking about the
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crying thing and then like did you see how she came to the defense no it's not about crying
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she's just over it yeah we're just reading social cues oh sorry am i too autistic to read the social
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queue since i'm too autistic here explain since i need to explain to me because i'm retarded
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explain the lacking of social queue that i am experiencing it's not that it's just like um this
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is like this is more my thing she came as a service to yeah you and the podcast to help out
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and like her like her what she wanted to do here is she did it yeah she wanted to over like
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overcome certain things and she's done it and yeah i don't think we should press more like respect
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her boundaries and everyone's boundaries it's not a but what is the lat what is the social
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cue that i'm missing she said no and she's not really responding enthusiastically she's not
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She said that she was going to take a break
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left again after what you asked her uh okay but like me asking her to return when she's a guest
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on the podcast okay but it wasn't like i was pestering her i she's been back there for 20
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minutes i fucking ignored her and i was like hey let's have her back to do her notes that she sent
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in that's not like ignoring the no i literally just like as soon as i was like should we have
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a return you guys were like no oh let me defend her blah blah no you interpreted how you wanted
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her you yeah she repeated what i said and i just spoke to her and she said no okay but why do you
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guys have to be so defensive about it as you keep pressing on it i literally keep pressing
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is that really the characterization this is how men get falsely accused no but you're like this
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is like you keep talking about it and i'm different well now i'm talking about it because i've been
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i've now been accused of missing social cues and you guys are like no that i just she no she stepped
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away i invite i was like do you want to come back like in the first moment she stepped away yeah and
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then she was like no i need to take a break and i was like cool and then that was it and then i was
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like hey do you want to come back for this segment like we're going around the table asking this
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she said yeah she came back then she stepped away again and then just now i was like hey we should
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have her back to do the notes so that i if you want to characterize that as like some degree of
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pestering i personally don't think it's unfair when you're coming on the dating discussion
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podcast i don't think it's unreasonable to like check in with the person who maybe is just taking
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a break who's maybe just taking a breather but i just spoke to her and i'm telling well i was was
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i part of that conversation i'm telling you right now am i aware of i know and i accept that okay
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but you guys want to do some like pathologizing where whoa brian you're no means no brian no
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means no i'm just saying i'm not freaking out you think this is freaking out trust me a little bit
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no I'm not on my period it's just like it's frustrating when people like
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want to try to frame you as doing something in a certain way
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look again this is actually playing exactly into what I was talking to
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she's upset she's upset and you guys want to jump
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to the defense because I'm I'm not like dragging her like
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bitch get the fuck back on the fucking podcast I'm sitting here
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asking her with my words not forcing her to do anything hey do you want to return i don't need
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you guys to start barking at me like i've done i've committed some crime by asking the woman to
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return to the podcast to discuss things on the dating discussion podcast i just left 30 seconds
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ago spoke to her was i party to that conversation i'm telling you right now how would it be material
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how would it be relevant well i feel like if i communicated with her and she just said i'm not
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coming back and i'm telling you yeah i just spoke to her she's not coming back that's pretty like
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relevant to your question of like did i did not push beyond like i'm not a mind reader i wasn't
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listening to that conversation if i don't have that information available to me yes and i've
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accepted that now we're having a meta conversation now i'm not i'm not arguing here with you for her
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to come back i'm arguing with you guys about the characterization of how you're trying to frame
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this that's that's on you brian i believe you're the one who framed it they said no i said this is
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a social cue thing and then you right as if i'm lacking in some so like i'm socially retarded
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and i don't have the capacity no no you're putting words into my mouth look brian can i just ask
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really quickly you've been giving like charitable readings of everything could you give that to me
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when i said the social cue thing i think if you're going to invoke the social cue it's suggesting
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that there's a lack of being able to read the social cues which i kind of disagree with missed
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because because you have a lot of things to deal with you have your chat and everything you have
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a lot of things to deal with you might not have noticed everything that we have noticed
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so that's a charitable reading of it that you have a lot going on she's clearly upset you think i've
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missed that she's clearly upset no i'm trying to give an explanation for how this woman could say
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no and they could say no for her and my charitable reading is maybe he didn't see something that's
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what is the thing that i did not see i don't know that was the thing that's what i but see
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he doesn't know how to read social cues maybe he's he's clearly missing something say we women are
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these like social geniuses and we can see the fucking matrix of social cues but i can't even
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articulate what the social cue is that he missed i i just explained it for you but to put it in brief
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i propose the idea that a social cue was missed was did i say it was missed because of misreading
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Well, it was because, well, the social cue is that she said no.
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Everyone's kind of like, hey, you asked her again.
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Is that a no for you or is it a yes for you or is it a maybe for you?
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Now it's like, essentially, they're trying to say, Brian, you don't respect consent.
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First off, you can't use something disclosed to me after the fact as sort of inculpatory to the initial thing.
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So, for example, you said she came back and told the state of affairs of her friend.
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me asking her to come back occurred prior to her disclosing the details and context of the
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conversation she had with her friend. It wasn't like, hey, Brian, by the way, I just talked to
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my friend and she doesn't want to come back. I didn't give you time. So I need to be a fucking
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mind reader to tell you. If you're not going to change the subjects, I'm going to go. I'm going
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I will apologize to you because this hit you a little harder than I intended, and I apologize.
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Well, take your fucking wig off. How about that?
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Look, ultimately, though, look, I think it's unfair your characterization.
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I think it's unfair how you're characterizing it.
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Was it a characterization, or was it just a note?
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Look she can do whatever the fuck she wants
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it's in your notes and then that's it your french friend i had her notes that were quite interesting
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but she's gone uh and perhaps that's even considerate of me that she came this way to
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be on the show and i wanted to give her a moment to speak so please focus on me it's my podcast
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it's fucking my podcast i yeah but i don't need to be i don't need i don't yeah of course you can
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do that but please don't tell me how to run my show okay i don't come to your work and tell you
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like i don't know stop sucking like i don't go to your fucking job and be like stop sucking dicks
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or whatever you know what i you know whatever the fuck i ain't going to your job what's your
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question about me all right so you said that you uh i think that's a rage quit there good job
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Oh okay then I misread it then my social queue
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No I have difficulty reading social queues
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But she's just getting water okay I fucked up
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accountability i fucked up i don't know how to read social cues because of my autism you know
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maybe it was just unfair she was you know she's just getting some water so do you actually have
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autism i've heard you say i don't know i'll let you guys can diagnose me um so anyways okay
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china yeah you dated two brothers yeah a couple years in between yeah they lived together in
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apartment yeah the first one you dated was pissed yeah so they were like stepbrothers not blood
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related but they did live like live together during their childhood and whatnot uh dated one
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for a bit uh didn't work out but we always like stayed friends and then at some point later on
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the line uh that friend i would come over hang out and met his brother and then started okay
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you said that you tend to be attracted to younger guys i do so usually three uh what's the like
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age or whatever uh i like the lowest would be probably like early 20s and yeah you said in
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your notes and you're 29 yeah uh usually three to eight yeah three to eight years younger
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approximately yeah so you have you dated a like a 20 year old at 29 i guess yeah how's your guy
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uh he's 22 22 and you're 29 yeah i like him young how tall is he 6'1 almost 62
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check some milf got a cougar over here a fucking cougar um wow all right you're on the prowl
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thank you so are you not attracted to men your age or older uh not necessarily but um
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like let's say balding and stuff like that less attractive and then the youngest guys
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Earlier, I will say, I asked his age, and he said 21, and now he's saying 19.
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wait nathan said he was 21 yeah you did no that was tiffany tiffany's 30 no he said 21
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tiffany's 30 he said 21 i see asian women let me tell you she's 38 tiffany's 37
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she looks 21 he's 37 yes tiffany's 37 you look no i know right doesn't she look great
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flawless korean skin yes flawless flawless i know me too well yeah hey tiffany every podcast
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i'm gonna add a year to your age and we'll see how far we can go oh she's 37 i'm serious bro
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have you seen what the koreans are doing oh yeah their skincare is elite yeah by the way
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tiffany tiffany told me that the money she's earning from the podcast she's gonna use it for
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a nose job really girl tiffany you don't need a nose job girl i don't know bro no i think her
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knows is fine yeah you don't need a she doesn't need one but you know whatever you look great
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whatever um okay so uh younger guys wow anybody else here let me ask the panel who likes younger
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men like from a physical perspective yeah your little uh 20 rendezvous to use a french word
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21 21 wait and you're 25 oh shit i need a took some milk that's like average a cougar is generally
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like an older woman a cougar is generally an older woman i mean she's 29 years old
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i don't mind but i china brian china he's just oh china oh china oh brian you know i i wonder if
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there's like uh i don't know if um were you like growing up were you kind of reserved you know like
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kind of uh kind of like your friends like a bit more reserved no i think actually as i get older
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i'm less i'm more reserved now than i used to yeah i've never been shy would you date an 18 year old
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but he's hot maybe he's such a stud maybe 18 year old wait what's not 17 what's the age of
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consent in 18 well um i think it's 16 technically but like to be considered an adult i i mean at
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least i can find someone attractive that's 18 but maybe like the whole dating thing could be
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yeah okay we're probably not at the same place in life but yeah okay but it's fun uh
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so you would date an 18 year old though i don't know depends on the person but i think
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ideally a little older but i will say like ideally someone's who's older because he's
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mature and like whatever but looks younger that's like the but it rarely happens a vampire
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and she's so protective the giant fucking avatar bitch the blue just the fucking blue and shit
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yeah she'd give you blue balls that's what i'm talking about i'd fucking avatar shit
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i'd fucking have it who cares about the lady at that point
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she's like everything she's just everything about her crazy yeah give me give me that little
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fucking ponytail shit i'll put my dick in the pony i think you have to know what the avatar
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sex procedure is i'd fuck shit um okay what about like um what's like a hot alien
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no one no one can we wikipedia aliens actually no that shit's kind of creepy
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it's gonna be some weird ass shit like the the the what is it the gray the gray aliens you know
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with the fucking big ass heads and shit i'll pass wait wait this is gonna sound crazy as fuck
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okay so it looks like an alien like kind of scary aliens but the labia is huge
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i might be tempted like do they even have pussies like what if the pussy's on the foot
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right and your sexual desires yeah i'm just jokes it's just jokes but i'm saying what if
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like an alien's pussy is in like a weird place then i mean you never know like wait nathan nathan
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what if the alien's pussy is like in the back of the head like your school like it's the back of
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the head you're sort of fucking the head the back of the head tell me that feels like
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I feel like they'd be popping out like a hundred
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that's gonna be some ruler of the earth how did we get here chat would you fuck an alien not in
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the legal not not like an illegal immigrant i would fuck an illegal immigrant shame from mexico
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um but like an avatar chick nathan would you an avatar no okay tatum would you they're gorgeous
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Fucking, we're talking about her dating barely legal.
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She wants to, she's hanging out at fucking Degrassi.
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Drake is in a fucking wheelchair and shit.
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You're in Degrassi and you're just macking on
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with big labia that's valid though that's that's valid you're on gigantic with the vaginas in the
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back of their head well no i was just saying that'd be weird you know but i uh i don't know
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i think you gotta talk to a therapist okay but i think so i we should go together couples therapy
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yeah couples therapy oh my god oh my god but you're gonna pay for the well hit me up when
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you dump your boy toy and i'll give you three sons i think i'll pass d1 d1 athletes mostly my
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genes obviously oh yeah mostly my genes what sport would you hope hockey hockey or lacrosse
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no football i love football lacrosse uh tennis actually i play pickleball that's disgusting
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pickleball that's the most annoying oh stop it's the sport do you ever drive by a high school
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no that's like no 18 year olds 18 year olds 18 because she dates 18 i didn't say 18 year olds
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i said so if i didn't know their age come on do you still go to like college parties to no okay
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yeah if you say so uh okay you know this do you have different types yeah more casual is what
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um if it's less like if I find someone attractive right off the bat um I tend to be like less
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focused on everything else so I don't know it just kind of ends up being blondes with blue eyes that
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are maybe less on the serious spectrum and then um if i'm attracted to someone with darker features
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it's probably because like more related to personality so well this is what you wrote
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you noticed you have different types yeah so you write more casual relationships lighter features
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more serious relationships darker features but so when you say lighter features darker features
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are you talking about like hair and eye color so like blonde hair casual blue eyes yeah what about
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blue eyes dark hair not me uh i'm fat i'm already rejecting myself don't um depends on the person
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they could i could probably maybe find them attractive it's like in between you know it's
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like in the middle uh okay but and when are you talking about skin color too
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no like so white guys just fuck black guys i tend to be attracted to all races uh no uh
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white guys not asian guys no no just like racist uh you said you don't believe in double standards
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if a woman gets judged for sleeping around men should be judged the same way yeah
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does anybody want a popsicle no no okay or do we just have empty here let me because i feel like
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she left oh really yeah she left oh shit okay well here wait can you here you sit here and
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because i feel like on the split i need i don't know i need it looks empty when we go split uh
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okay uh don't believe in double standards if a woman gets judged for sleep we talked about that
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we talked about uh you don't agree with double standards if a girl or guy has a high body count
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it's as bad talked about that um you've dated both alpha and beta yeah personalities both have
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pros and cons you prefer being the one who calls the shots yeah i do that's why you date younger
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guys maybe because they're naive and you can manipulate them and have you ever pegged a dude
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yeah wait china like for real yeah like i was kind of joking with that question okay
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then i was joking too no no no no i was joking no for realsies uh did you ever have you wait
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more than one guy come on be honest not not like every guy no not not every guy but more than one
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yeah is that a hickey on your neck i don't think so probably not maybe you and your friend
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never mind okay wait so you've pegged a dude with a strap on no no no no no well okay sorry
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it was the no i have not pegged no no i don't know what that means thank you you put the strap
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on no no i have not i have not i thought it was something else oh what did what did you think
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with fingers that's oh you finger to do booty hole because wait because he asked for it or
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because you wanted to do it uh both of uh okay yeah reese's knows a thing or two about great
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combinations chocolate and peanut butter obviously but there's more than one way to reese's from
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indulgent reese's big cups with caramel to crunchy reese's pieces and reese's miniatures there's a
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I'm really proud of you or mortified at the same time.
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Wait, I'm just trying to think the position where a woman could slip a finger in.
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you asked for it uh you were like no but they've asked for it or wait do you do you like lube up
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or no whoa what okay it's time for me to go wait wait watch
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what the fuck huh huh you just stick it in okay next question she's like a dude she's like a guy
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she's like a guy man she just goes for it that's wow that's insane okay so you're that you want to
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be the one who calls the shots yeah it's more convenient so like you you want guys to call you
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daddy no it's not calling the shots it's just like i want someone who's like open to like
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do whatever kind of activity or do this is that but when it's the time to put me in my place
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they're able to do it why is dating so complicated girls be trying to stick fingers and butts and
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they want to call the shots and be put in their place i have options find a nice girl can i just
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find a nice girl just kind of wants to hang out and we can have a good time oh i go he's got to
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put me in my place man i didn't say put me in my place it's just you did say no able to put me in
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my place really but if you do it i'd be annoyed but right yeah but able to do it can i ask if
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something's racist sure so i would never say the n-word but sometimes i want to say really
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okay so i won't say it but can you finish the sentence for me i guess okay say that shit again
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say that shit again say it again say that shit again dog say that shit again say it with your
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chest don't tell me what to do oh whoa okay calm down lady but say it again i'm calling the shots
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really nigga okay really nigga okay thank you appreciate it see i can't say that shit but i
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got my see she she's black but she's my caucasian that's my caucasian right there that's i don't
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know what you are you're my caucasian i think are you what are you oh wait she's my caucasian you're
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my indigenous my french girl back there she's my caucasian she's my yeah caucasian i'm your
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can i ask you a question yeah can a black person because i'm learning about because you know growing
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up in santa barbara there was like three black people in my high school yeah that was you know
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my life that was my experience too and um can a black person call a white friend the n-word
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in like a positive way i do like you know what i mean is that props to the white person
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i think it just depends on the white person some people you know what i mean
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what like you know she knows what i mean i didn't hear the question oh
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oh like you know when you in the streets and oh my god what the fuck
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and like your crew will give you mad props yo and call you the n-word i feel like you're placing
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a very ghetto stigma on that i don't think that's how it works would you consider calling me
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your um if you were i'm not asking you to do it i want that shit to be natural like i don't want
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no no it's kind of like an apology i don't want to ask for the you just give me the like you
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should give me the apology yeah i don't want to i don't want to force you yeah but if i just want
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to tell you if you feel like we've had a good rapport if you want to you can yeah like my boss
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is really cool he's a white man but like i i don't say that to him i say that he's down with the
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browns like ma you you can say that to me i'm just saying not you don't have to do it well you're
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definitely not mine but it's okay i'm not there yet why not just you're ever gonna be that really
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oh shit okay anyways uh you're the alpha male female you pegged to do we we went through that
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but but so how do you call the shots though it's just like i feel like guys know that
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if they try to press on me or they try to be alpha i'll just knock them down so no physically
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have you ever no just with my words i don't need to use violence yeah and i won't if i don't like
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something or what someone said about me or someone i care about like i won't sure uh you don't like
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how people disappear when they get into relationships and cut off their friends yeah
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Well, when people get into relationships, cut off their friends.
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But so there's male friends, female friends, so the opposite-sex friends.
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So women, like a lot of girls, will get into a relationship,
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and then the minute they're in a relationship they will no longer see any of their friends
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i think that's bizarre and annoying and then they break up with their man come back
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and then um expect to go back yeah expect the things to go the same i'm like
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um and then girl boy friendship like obviously you have to put some kind of boundaries
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uh but if and if you guys already had history if you guys hooked up like obviously not but
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if it's purely like friendship and like obviously you have to change certain settings or whatnot
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but if you cut out if your partner makes you cut out your like um friends of opposite sex i think
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it's not like not viable and kind of stupid I agree yeah yeah I think like you said it depends
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on the situation yeah and the friendship and like the background of each friendship yeah I'm also
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very strict with my male friends like I do not call any of my male friends friends if they've
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expressed interest in me that is just like someone I know basically like they can even be someone I
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you know i mean have a like i've had a close relationship with but as soon as they express
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that interest like i have to like draw that boundary because i feel like any male that
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express that interest would disrespect you if you were in a relationship i i would just throw
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out there like with the friend thing i think sometimes it's like natural that oh you're more
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with your person you just see people naturally less but like cutting someone out is kind of like
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delivered intentional and you do have a choice and i guess like i'm not trying to be like aggressive
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i'm just like asking like what is the friend worth to you if they're worth cutting out i guess
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cutting off or cutting out yeah like to begin with they probably yeah it's like a friend like
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there are people like if i'm in a relationship i'm just not going to see that person as much
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but it's like oh if i could choose i wouldn't want to get rid of them i guess yeah right do we think
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telling you to get rid of friends of the opposite
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the situation. Yeah, it depends on the situation.
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oh wait okay delusional calculator can you pull that up uh question what do you bring to the
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okay do we do the wait should we do the delulu actually yeah
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um all right you also say oh final thing for you guys who can't handle their alcohol yeah
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and then get stupid when they drink yeah but what uh what if they don't drink at all is that also
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nick no i'm not much of a drinker so nathan can you open the door all the way um okay
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tatum hello save the best for last what i know uh we had a lot of segues here in the convo
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i'm gonna try to get through your notes i might have to skip a few things here and there but
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so you're a courtesan at a legal brothel in nevada named sherry's berries no sherry's ranch
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and uh okay you couldn't talk about money that was some of my notes i did ask about the coupons
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the buy one bang one free that maybe you know maybe if you guys want to hire me as a
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uh i would say keep the um does the split not show her the other split oh uh
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i guess just when i ask just go here and then put it i think that should be fine unless you
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actually maybe can you scoot that way you stay there but you scoot that way a little bit
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there we go that's better the split will work now okay uh okay overlap sex work marriage you
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have a handful of interesting dating experiences uh most of your dating has been unsuccessful
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most men do not want to date someone who does what you do for work these are these are your notes
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uh there have also been cases however of men who do want to be involved with you but only for sex
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which does not appeal to you you're looking for a relationship
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and you consider yourself having very traditional values
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what sound are you gonna put on nothing okay all right very traditional yeah what are the
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very traditional values i mean after i sent that in i'm like i'm gonna probably have to define that
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i don't know because i feel like it's more of a vibe it's a vibe yeah so what is the vibe
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the vibe is like my dream is to uh you know tend the land with my with my babies and my
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husband tend the land make all my own clothes traditional though okay but that's like this
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sort of homesteader vibe homestead thing oh well that's what i meant by traditional well i think
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when people think of traditional i don't think their first thought is escort uh well not escort
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i guess a courtesan prostitute yeah brothel i know but i'm just is there a is there a madame
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there is she's amazing can there be a male and leader of a brothel or yeah there have been what
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is that called a pimp oh my god i don't know i because the one i work at is run by a woman
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owned by a woman yes yeah is she has she owned it forever or what's her steal uh she she was
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the madam so she's not the owner oh okay there is the owner a man uh it's owned by an investment
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group oh there's a group of people okay the madam so was the madam a former no you know
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are you trying to become the man no no no she's don't want that because no because she there's
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it's a it's a big responsibility and that's not that that's not the you gotta keep them you gotta
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keep the pimp hands strong you know sorry joke
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okay yeah uh so okay it's a big job i get that um and she's very good at it how many girls work
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there um there are over 75 on the rotation um every month but only 25 are there at a time okay
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so okay i guess in quick response to the you saying you consider yourself to have very
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traditional values i feel that that's like saying i have very vegan values but i get paid by the
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meat industry to eat meat right you know what i mean yeah because you're like a prostitute
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totally so it's like traditional you you were very pleasant you're nice thank you
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but traditional i don't know maybe i just meant uh i interpreted it as
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okay ancient times ancient times traditional ancient times
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thank you okay uh you've tried a lot of different strategies telling people what you do
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yes not telling people yes until you a connection is formed that's what you wrote yeah but so
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clarifying question um so that's you're dating a guy and you tell him hey by the way perhaps
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up front i work in the brothel correct but then there's times where you haven't told and so when
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you say waiting until a connection sex like after sex i haven't i've only had sex with one person
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after i got divorced and that's where i've been dating in the past year and i don't but did you
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tell him tell that guy that you had sex with up front that you were a brothel worker no I told
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him I was a dancer a stripper so but he was very open-minded we've met on field I don't know if
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you're familiar with that field it's the it's the open-minded people app for dating open-minded to
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what like all sorts of things like relationship dynamics it's he did not mind I worked at a
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brothel but he's the guy who was just like but did you tell him you worked at a brothel
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and you were a prostitute no i told him i was a dancer but you were at the time a prostitute
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he was not looking for a relationship oh answer the question what okay so okay at the time you
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were a prostitute working at the brothel yeah but you did not disclose to him prior to having sex
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we got fully we he no no no hold on but so got tested and everything okay yep yep yep but you
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i just need an affirmative did you not tell him that you were a prostitute prior to
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carnal knowledge it was not relevant he didn't ask
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china oh my god please rejoin the table oh my god this is crazy he was like 60 years old
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60 you done 60 it was a certain thing we were both looking for no what was the thing that you
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were looking for dick oh my god this is so like personal it was like just a certain did he have
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to use it's a kink app it's a kink app oh so you have a thing for grandpas
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what's your thing but no but it's a it's a kink but hold on it's a kink app yeah what's the kink
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that you were exploring stop oh my god you cannot answer if you listen i've been talking about big
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pussy lips and labia and all this shit all night come on it was what is it can you can you infer
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can you can you take a guess and then i can just was it was it uh what's it called dd oh well it
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was just we can just say it was in the bdsm category and he had a whole dungeon and everything
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was it ddlg and no that's a little extreme for my taste wait that's extreme no no like
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wait wait hold on okay so my taste okay you don't like that so it wasn't ddlg
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oh my god this is like okay okay i've been talking about pussy lips all night it was it was
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you know bdsm sadism masochism bondage it was just degradation rope play i'm not are you a rope
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bunny what is it no it it satisfied the kink and and i realized bonded wait tell me here blink
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wait wait wait wait blink actually i do have this on my profile at the ranch so it's blink
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twice if i'm in the right bdsm category bondage uh well i guess you could just say yes or no i
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guess bondage sure yes wait yes it's in bondage there's it's an umbrella term of there's multiple
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things that happened okay uh sadism yes or no sadism can you define that what you think that
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does or sadism deriving pleasure from inflicting or giving pain uh sure yes that was
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masochism so i think we covered it well why are you so bashful you work in a brothel
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you work in a brothel and we can't talk we can't talk about this is my personal life though oh come
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on okay come on you you just had a guy fucking two weeks ago dress you up in a japanese school
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komichiwa and shit. Who said that? I'm just making
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it up. Oh, because that did not happen. You'd be doing crazy shit in the
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brothel. Come on. No, I actually only do the
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girlfriend experience. Hey, what do you do, Tiffany? Tiffany?
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take a seat at the table. I'm gonna fucking
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The rope shit where you get all fucking tied up in ropes?
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we did it we covered it we bondage can be anywhere from fucking handcuffs like all the way to some
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crazy like shabari you saw in 50 shades of gray just you can just copy paste and yep check that
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is not helpful bdsm has like multiple okay whatever all right i need to do some all right
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but you didn't tell the dude that you were a prostitute i told him i told him on the second
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time we hung out and then was it over after that uh no he actually okay here's the thing
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as soon as i told him he was like oh that's super hot and then he turned on porn and then i as if
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that meant i worked at a brothel that i would like porn and then i was like i have adhd can
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you please turn that off wait was it it's distracting me was it cnc no it was just random
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porn no no the thing with the guy oh no but i do that i that's cool i like that uh let's see here
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uh you don't hold anything against them for not wanting to be involved with a woman who they
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would need to share so a woman who's a prostitute if the roles were reversed you wouldn't be okay
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with your man being with other people even as a prostitute oh no we just i just talked about that
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with my husband he could he could uh make money like oh he could fuck for money yeah but not like
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fuck not for money okay correct so you'd be fine with that hypothetically in the past that's what
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i thought nowadays i'm like you know i've been yeah well because you said you're honestly quite
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possessive of your partner which you think is healthy to an extent and you like for your
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partner to be possessive of you i think it's i think it's spicy wait oh oh here's a good question
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i feel like the girls are gonna like this one okay okay let's say you were dating a guy right
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now you're single though right correct it's been a you're kind of yeah it's been a minute
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because i'm we're working on it i'm a busy you're a nice gal i think you you know what i i think we
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can get you a guy thank you yeah we'll get you a guy okay okay anybody have any brothers tiffany
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oh my god would you like to set her up with oh my god she's like
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the number one ranked prostitute i'm not number one oh sorry number three
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oh you're dating a guy like a civilian guy but then you're going to work
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hypothetically you said well i mean let's say in reality if you were dating a guy okay
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would it upset you like i would never do this arrangement but
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like i could imagine if you were in that situation you'd be like okay
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i'm not kissing you for 24 hours you know what i mean because of you know what i mean brooke
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you know what i mean brooke like okay but but i wouldn't would you be upset if the guy was like
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did you suck a dick today like you come home from work that's a normal question you ask your
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girlfriend oh i think you misunderstand the way it works i'm gone for two weeks at a time
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i don't come home at night when i'm well but like okay you worked fine you work two weeks
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but then you go home right and some prostitute
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but i'll be sad oh i'll be so you were awesome all right sounds good thank you appreciate it
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thank you thank you all right we're almost wrapped though we are almost wrapped i promise you that
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20 minutes i know but brooke you were just talking too much brooke i know oh yeah this brooke here
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she was talking too much okay it's the end of your two-week shift you're a little you're a
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little weaselly little fucking snake you're a little snake trying to dodge all my questions
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and shit you're doing some fucking verbal fucking aikido and shit you know i'm like trying to ask
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you a question it's like well it's i don't go home every night gotcha bitch it's like answer
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god damn it tatum she's gonna be a fucking politician this one she's gonna be a politician
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The real problem in this country is we just got to try harder.
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You're like trying to grab the soap and you can't grab the shit.
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You called Alice Little a politician when she was on here, so I'm very flattered by that.
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Does she work at your ranch or is that a different one?
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Like you roll deep you see that motherfucker
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Wait is there fucking like inter brothel drama
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fucking drive by shootings and shit each other
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Did y'all talk shit about the Bunny Ranch?
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But are you like, we got better pussy here at the Cherries Ranch?
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Like, people move around to all the ranches all the time.
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Y'all got to start talking shit about each other.
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You know how, like, Pepsi talks about Coca-Cola?
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Pussy stank over there at the Bunny Ranch.
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y'all competing with each other though it's a business no we're not sharing y'all the women
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it's like the mafia in new york but it's like pussy selling in the nevada desert okay never
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i love how much you love it though what's that i love how much you you're passionate about
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i'm so passionate uh okay we're uh the the the the the the end oh
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the okay you're dating you're dating tiffany um you're dating a guy hypothetically you say
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would you be and you just get home from work yeah from the two weeks and he's like look
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i don't want to kiss you would that be a problem i mean for 24 hours oh i mean i would just be
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surprised that my husband didn't do that when i would come home but oh he yeah no it was way
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different he it was yeah for your next relationship are you going to continue sex work once you're
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married no i i'm wanting to stop wait but there's only one guy who you got with who you didn't tell
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it was a 60 year old on field that you're a prostitute you didn't tell him i did on the
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second date can i ask you what about like for other women who are prostitutes do you think
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it's up to them or do you think they should tell men uh it's up to the woman i'm not gonna
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speak for all women on that well like for example i think men should not bitch slap
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their girlfriends bare minimum you know what i mean right so i think it's okay for women to say
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maybe women should conduct themselves and no but i i've told men as well and then they were like
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no but should other women who are sex workers tell men i don't have an opinion on that women
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can do whatever they want i think before sleeping with them they should i think they should tell
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men i think they have the right to know i agree men have the right to know and they definitely
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shank him shank somebody you know what i mean what nathan did you lock nathan
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okay because you know dip okay i'm just saying i think you should maybe disclose i do but that
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was like a one-time thing but other women should disclose to you i'm just saying i think that's
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okay i think it's fair um yes you have difficulty dating largely due to the fact that you're
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the courtesan and the masculine men you're attracted to don't want this yes this okay
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masculine men uh you dropped out of cornell wait really yeah oh my god tiffany
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that's wait her dropping out of a college is the thing that got you excited my friend goes to
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cornell nice oh my god tiffany oh my god who the hell cares your friend goes to cornell
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oh my god what did you have for breakfast this morning yogurt bowl with strawberries and blue
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anyways oh my god tiffany oh my you want to show us your kanye west tattoos we're all dying
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i know it's torture i can't hour i can't take it off okay uh oh you've treated sorry not treated
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Do you know Lauren, who we've had on the show?
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actually one of the nicest people i've met who've come on the show anyways sweetest girl i mean i
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don't know her deeply or anything but um so i don't know maybe she's a fucking crazy what's up
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lauren um i don't know maybe who knows behind the scenes but she's the sweetest person she's so
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kind she's very nice and you seem almost in a similar vein you know what compliment to i'll
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give you a compliment this way when it comes to sex workers for some reason you would almost it's
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almost counterintuitive intuitive of the like prost like actual prostitutes we've had on the
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show they tend to be the nicest versus like the strippers and the OF girls okay well I do all
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what yeah but like the women who are specifically like either also or just prostitutes for some
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reason they're they're kind of the nicest i think they're more old school oh my god what's that
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they're more old school they're old school yeah i give them i almost you know what and it's not
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just that they're nicer i kind of put more respect on their name they kind of give like
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hey can i ask you a question would you um wait i don't know if this is legal but i'm just gonna
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ask it okay are you gonna give me a referral a referral cut like if somebody is like a yo tatum
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i saw you on the whatever podcast and i'm trying to do some shit are you gonna give me you're gonna
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be give me a little kickback you're gonna be a kickback i think she already gave you something
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by coming here thank you but i'm talking money you are gonna make money oh my god not in that
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i'm talking to kick back from the the the the clientele little kickback i'm kidding but would
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you give me a dollar per person a small you know fraction 50 bucks starbucks gift card
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starbucks gift card you never know i mean who knows okay we'll see how that we'll see how that
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good talk wait okay we're talking about the virgins oh should i i had a question fuck wait
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virgins you've taken virginity oh i remember the thing i was gonna say um i kind of respect
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the prostitutes more than the of girls okay why thank you tiffany i was waiting for that
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i don't want to just speak out of turn you know i want to wait i'm very quiet
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i don't speak much on this podcast yeah you know it's i wait my turn i think
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because the of girls and the strippers i view them as like a bit predatory
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okay like but the prostitutes as much as i object
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i think it's honest work thank you yes in the sense that here's what i'm offering here's what
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you get here's the terms exactly whereas like strippers strip of is the worst but the strippers
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the strippers put on like a bit of a front to a degree like they put on the front a little bit
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uh when it comes to like interacting with the men in the club right i guess maybe prostitutes do
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that too i don't know but of girls that's a fugazi the only fans thing that's a hustle
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then you're the of girls are hustling men whereas the prostitutes pussy cost $3.99
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like that's that's at least respectable i don't know chat what do you think chat
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i think it's more respectable does that make sense yes but i also don't want to pit sex
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workers against each other well look ultimately the of girls are running a hustle a lot of them
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they're fraud in they're lying they're they're doing all kinds of shit they're um they got
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typers they got chatters they got management oh it's me who's talking no it's not her who's talking
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uh they are doing the girlfriend experience they're doing romance scams you on the other
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hand the prostitutes pussy is 500 you want some pussy 500 i'll give you pussy like i can at least
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respect that from a business perspective but when you got women scamming dudes out here on only fans
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like scamming them romance literally romance scamming dudes i can't respect that can't respect
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it now i'm not saying it's good you know i'm not gonna say it's good but i was what people in the
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chat are getting butt hurt that i'm saying that i'm saying it's more i'm not saying it's respectable
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no offense but it's more respectable if that makes sense thank you like i put put more respect
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on the name respect on the name thank you brian that means a lot chat i can understand that yeah
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they're saying it's true but it's still bad that's my point is what i'm saying but at least i can
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respect it more than these romance scammer of girls who are hustling cold-blooded hustling
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these dudes girlfriend experience romance scam oh i'll meet up with you pay more send me money
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for a ticket an airplane ticket oh my god i missed my flight oopsie oh no romance scam
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romance scam anyways uh now that i'm not saying all girls of girls do that anyways blasting
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through the rest um there's more nuance to the world of sex work than the host brian gives you
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don't have to go into that because it was yeah brian doesn't realize that a lot of the men who
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come to the brothel are doing this as a last resort do you want to elaborate super quickly
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oh um did i did i write about just like people are grieving the loss of a spouse and and so
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they'll go yeah yeah i mean i don't even think i disagree with you like definitely men can be
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uh i don't think it's just like frat bros who just want to bust a nut i'm sure it's like
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guys who go there and i've heard stories like guys will go there and they don't even want sex
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they'll just like want to be held and shit you know yeah so i've heard that story i've heard
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that story they even want to talk or whatever and it's not even yeah you know so they just
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want companionship so i get that um you met a guy at a park on hinge oh who height who height
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fished you we'll skip that yeah not too interesting oh
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he said there's he was 5 8 he was actually 5 2 um let's see you're fine with first dates not
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costing anything or like just being like low price yeah hike blah blah blah sorry not you
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blah blah blah but um do you recall the client i'm gonna go through their whole thing like that
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two oh it's hers or it's her notes are last that's it we already did no it's just her and
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then it's done uh the bumble story um then we return to what the ding is all about seeing
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if we really do like the other person okay skip
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okay here's your hot take why is it more socially acceptable for you to be sleeping with many guys
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frequently before you became a sex worker so you were like sleeping around uh but not getting paid
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but once you start actually making money from this it becomes stigmatized frowned upon
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well you're asking the wrong guy because in certain circles your circles you frown upon both
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i'd frown upon both right but i'm just talking about larger society but it's too big of a topic
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to get into at this hour yeah true true um it is an interesting thought which one do you think
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should be sick stigmatized more neither sexual empowerment no not in like a it's it's it's hard
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to you you said throughout your 20s you had so many one night stands uh how many when you say
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how many or had well it was like all of the body count which is 33 33 okay ever two in the night
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no three in the night no no because i i added that i fell in love with every i thought everyone
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was going to turn into a relationship you said that yeah you gave the men full girlfriend
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experience you gave yourself fully emotionally time efforts love imagined a future with nearly
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each one though it was a bit demoralizing in these instances to learn i was nothing more than
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the booty you were nothing more than the booty call it you're grateful for it because it led you
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to sherry's ranch to becoming a prostitute where you can provide these experiences for people who
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genuinely enjoy appreciate them and give you money you met your ex-husband when you were both in
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rehab for what adderall addiction what about for him uh meth addiction so romantic yeah i hope to
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one day meet my future wife it honestly was romantic maybe you should try that tiffany
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tiffany's been struggling a bit try what what meth i don't know yes all of the above tiffany
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pay attention tiffany pay attention yeah okay you said your point of married men out of pure love
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wait you married the man out of pure love for his heart and spirit he can make you laugh harder than
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anyone which goes against pretty much everything you brian say about women just going after
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resources i don't say that women do care about that but it's i say it's not the only thing
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i don't actually say that okay okay i don't i don't believe you but okay i'll say okay just
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okay um women don't just women don't just go after money okay of course other things matter
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uh and i think the gold digger phenomenon is actually like very small i i think that's like
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cope or whatever um and also look hey you guys say i criticize women i'll i'll say this
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a lot of men who are worried about gold diggers
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they got nothing to worry about so what i mean by that is they don't got money they don't got
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anything to be dug is what i'm saying uh so that's my criticism there um okay you're critical
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of women who have unrealistic expectations about landing man with higher exceptionally high incomes
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especially when they aren't bringing much to the table themselves are you reading my notes yes
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no really oh my god that was my notes that was gonna be my response i did not say that
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no yeah i was reading like a note i had in response to your thing that was funny
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that's actually my brain i guess from me uh okay yeah so
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that's funny okay um on the show you've observed brian talk about how all the burden falls on men
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during dating. If it feels like a burden, it's not the right person. The entire process of falling
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in love should feel exciting and electric. However, I'm also totally aware that men do
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appreciate a woman demonstrating interest, especially in a post-Me Too era. That's a
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fair point there at the end. I do think it's a bit of a privileged position, though, that I think
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I'm somehow wrong about men carrying the burden when it comes to dating. I do think the reality
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is as sort of discussed a little bit women tend to be passive when it comes to dating case in point
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canadian exhibit a she's 29 she's had multiple boyfriends she's had multiple partners
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none of which she paid the she didn't pay on the date she didn't ask them out
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so if we put her into a male body she'd be a virgin yeah sorry yeah no that's how it is if
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we put most women in a male body y'all be virgins no i'd be like six foot three muscular this is
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another thing wait the women this oh my god this hold on women this you know what's so funny is
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like a lot of women think man if i was a guy i would be a player i'd be oh i'd be so good looking
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and i'd have a big dick and i would be fucking all these chicks i'm like no you put you put
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you this idea, all these women think, oh my
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My brothers are doing just fine, so I'm not worried.
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Bro, Asian men are dating because even Asian women be fucking curving them, yo.
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Asian women be like, I want to fuck a white guy.
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so like if you're an asian woman and you're like if i was a man i'd be getting tons of pussy
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no you'd be fucking playing league of legends motherfucker what if a white woman says that
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how do you know if a white woman no even white women even a white woman who's like if i was a
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if i was a man i'd be running through pussy okay but how do you know well what's first off i would
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look at her and if she's like a five no she is not running through pussy so she has to be tall
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no no i'm when if i'm saying she's a five like her looks equivalent as a man
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some of these girls like nah they'd not be you know what i mean so they have to be really
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masculine looking oh no no no so not even that like i'm like more introverted just in general
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so like if i was a man i would definitely be a virgin still i do just fine wait actually never
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Okay. So men, oh my God, men have the initiative burden. Men have the rejection burden. Men have
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the financial burden. So yes, I do think it is generally men carry a bit more of a burden than
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women do. I think that's the word burden is kind of sad to me because the men who have been in
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long-term relationship ships with have been really excited about the whole process I agree
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and they're like can't get enough of it they're like oh I'm gonna drag this out as long as I can
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I'm so excited oh I'm so excited that I've got to be a jester and do this song and dance for
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a woman who's fucked 20 guys before me uh I'm so excited to do I'm so excited to do the courtship
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process with like a string of like 10 women and then five like maybe the 10th one becomes my
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girlfriend and then i'm gonna like she you're gonna deal with ghosting and flaking and they're
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gonna be late to the day and you're gonna get flaked on 50 of the time oh it's such an exciting
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process oh i haven't met my long-term people on apps though so wait but when the guy really likes
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the girl he's happy to do all that yeah exactly he likes the girl oh my god he likes the girl
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that's the gayest thing i've ever heard that's because you're cynical when it comes to us
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nothing has worked out for you that's so gay no i'm kidding you know what's really gay
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fucking women oh my oh my gosh it's a joke it's a joke like sliding your penis into a vagina is so
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gay oh my god tough crowd what tough fucking crowd boys all right let's see let me see how
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much oh we're almost there there's like two paragraphs oh my god please brian do you not
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i swear i swear we're almost there boys we're almost there i'm sure i observed brian talk about
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okay okay done with that last summer the two last things last summer you hung out with a guy from
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hinge at his house on the first date because wait uh mutual interest of ours circus acrobatic
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you had to leave after about two hours to go study for an exam you generally
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really liked him but you received advice from your mom that the man would reach out if he was
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interested you didn't hear back from him for two months until after you had reactivated hinge and
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he saw you on the app prompting him to text you i said i thought you ghosted me and he said he
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thought i ghosted sorry i can't even bother finishing reading that i'm sorry it was so boring
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just kidding i love you tatum you're the best you're my second favorite prostitute okay
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and by the way sometimes Lauren sends in like champagne
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where's she been though I don't know if she's watching
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You don't think it is up to the woman to constantly reach out.
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You honestly thought that was considered thirsty behavior and would turn a man off.
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There's also an entire movie, He's Just Not That Into You, 2009.
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When it came out, that helped sculpt your worldview.
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You can only speak for yourself, but you like initiative on the man's part.
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So you need to know that the other person is interested in you
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Look, I like when a girl makes the first move
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First off, if she's like a girl's a groupie
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i don't know who the fuck you are you gotta dm me like how am i gonna find you i don't like look
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at who comments on my shit i don't like i don't look at my likes i got too many likes you gotta
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send a dm so i like oh my god natalia my my favorite groupie speaking of show that pull it
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up pull it up nathaniel nathaniel pull up my favorite oh voice crack yikes natalia my favorite
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groupie oh i love natalia love natalia she's my favorite uh 20 gifted subs thank you guys
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thank natalia thank you oh you no i meant the chat you guys you guys should talk shit about
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no i'm just kidding don't talk shit natalia okay uh i don't know i i think a woman can
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take initiative in a feminine way oh say more can you give me an example
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so guys guys i'm just curious no no i'll answer it quick then we're gonna wrap
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so a girl like don't approach a guy whether it's text or even like in person whatever don't be
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like aggressive with it in the sense of like want some pussy no don't say that i mean some guys
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might still go for it but that's a bit much but you can be like excuse me sir
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you know like go up to him in like a more feminine way like not
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like you can still be soft and gentle and be like okay like a little bashful like
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you know you can do that shit and nathan nathan no just be a little does he excuse me senpai
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i thought you were cute you can do that shit okay and like that's you making the first move
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that's feminine though maybe like walking up to them making small talk is feminine
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yeah but saying saying directly you're cute is not feminine yeah well it doesn't have to be
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exactly that wordage it can't be direct right it can't be direct no i think a girl can be direct
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but in it can still be like you can still let it be known not no you can also play it more
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indirect you could be just kind of make conversation with him you know i don't know
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in like i don't know where you're not just like letting on that you like the guy and maybe he'll
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get the hint but you can also let the guy know in still like a non-aggressive feminine way and
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that's cool too me personally i don't really mind i don't like aggressive but like up front
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forthcoming not blunt isn't the right word but like a girl could just dm you approach you
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just thought you're cute i'm interested like it could just be as simple as that i don't think
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that that comes across as like aggressive or anything i could maybe change the wording a
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little bit there but i don't think it's feminine i can make it well i could change the wording there
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to make it a bit more flowery in a way that uh flowery flowery that's right uh let's see here
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okay let me see if there's any chats that's it for all the notes any final thoughts from any
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y'all before i wrap up the show we need the front should she return for the closing the
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oh no too much just like to wave goodbye no we should just go to bed she said no oh perfect
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That's good to you. Okay makeup removal. Will you take off your makeup?
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I don't like being told what to do. Allons-y VT s
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Okay, hold on one sec while I get this wrapped up.
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I'm going to say something from the movie The Matrix.
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Nom de Dieu, de putain, de bordel, de merde, de saloper, de conner, de inculé de ta mère.
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we're not going to do the AI, we don't have
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fucking time for that, let me make sure no chats
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came through and I'm going to wrap this shit
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If you're seeing a prostitute at Sherry's Ranch
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But because you do have to wear condoms legally
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can we please bring back chair number two lover i'll come on the podcast if she comes back i don't
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know who lizzie is i'm sorry who's lizzie uh and then these came through that are not reads but are
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shows all right i think that's it okay i feel like i'm forgetting something tiffany do you
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well you know what while i got tiffany here one question are you attracted oh my god you're gonna
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I'm literally trying to wrap the fucking show
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You can do that or you can get the fuck out
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Eh, maybe you should just get the fuck out then.
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I would have, but we had a little arrangement before to show that I'm going to need, you know.
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Oh, the deposit you paid because you flaked previously, so we charged you a deposit and you want it back?
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All right, sometimes we have to charge people deposits so they show up.
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tonight you could have been anywhere in the world
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but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and
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supports the show we could not do it without you we will be live again sunday actually no we have
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a debate uh i think on the 7th i believe we have a debate on the 7th but dating talk will be back
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sunday 5 p.m pacific any girls who want to be on the show you can dm out whatever on instagram
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if you can make it to santa barbara let me see oh sevens in the chat oh sevens in the chat
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oh sevens in the chat let me just double check make sure no chats came through
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hello load nope okay oh sevens in the chat oh sevens in the chat good night guys and we will
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we will see you we will see you either i'm pretty sure for a debate on the 7th uh and then dating
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talk on the 10th oh seven in the chat good night guys good night okay cool did anybody
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lie about their body count now that we're wrapped does anybody want to oh fuck we're
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still live nathan oh my goodness good night guys
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