00:39:37.700So I think it's not really useful or practical to appeal to the Bible in this particular situation.0.91
00:39:45.740So when it comes to pleasing women, you say that women are the receivers, men are the givers.
00:39:50.860Can I ask you, though, from a masculine-feminine energy lens that you cited to, and look, I understand that there can be dynamics where there's reciprocity.
00:40:01.140what dynamic do you think would be more falling into a sort of masculine feminine uh dynamic now
00:40:09.520again people can engage in whatever they want here's a question a relationship where the woman0.99
00:40:16.620only gives the man oral sex and he never gives her oral sex or a relationship where the man0.99
00:40:23.160only gives the woman oral sex and the woman never gives the man oral sex which one do you think0.99
00:40:29.540falls more strongly into a masculine-feminine framework or paradigm.0.99
00:42:48.400obviously you can have relationships which are perfectly reciprocal,
00:42:51.760where both of them are going down on each other.0.97
00:42:53.240But you think it's more within the masculine feminine paradigm, comparatively speaking, that the man is always giving oral sex and never receiving.0.99
00:58:41.320But I guess when I ask work, I understand that it's quite involved being a mom
00:58:46.940who's taking care of a disabled child, but I guess when I say work,
00:58:51.520I mean like career. Did you have a job?
00:58:54.420Yeah, I was a hairstylist at the time, and then we moved from California to Colorado, and I went to work, and every nanny or babysitter I hired would call me and say, he's not eating, he's not sleeping, he's crying, he's screaming, please come get him.
00:59:07.880So, eventually, my ex-husband said, you need to stay home, and I'll support us, and that was the end of the story.
00:59:14.040For nine years, I was a stay-at-home mom, wife, but not such a good one, to be honest.
01:02:03.520um how long does he and this is in california the divorce took place uh actually we got married
01:02:10.800in california but we got divorced in colorado okay um um how long does he have to pay you
01:02:19.920alimony for until i get married god so he has to pay you he has to pay you alimony for the rest of
01:02:26.080your life no god forbid wait but hold on hold on that's not the question okay you said until you
01:02:32.680get remarried let's assume maybe you will get remarried let's assume you don't does he have to
01:02:39.020pay does he have to pay you alimony for life um no i don't think so i think i think at one point
01:02:45.340but but so typically the divorce decrees it lays out the uh i think it's i think it's until i get
01:02:54.080married or until the kid is 18 that's what i think i think child support and alimony ends when the
01:02:59.040kiddo is 18 i believe and he's 13 now well certainly that would be the case for the child
01:03:04.220support it's not so clear if it would be the case for the alimony because and in california for
01:03:10.080example now i know the divorce was overseen in colorado if you've been married my understanding
01:03:16.980you've been married for more than 10 years in california you can be on the hook for lifetime
01:03:21.980alimony uh in which case you were married for 13 years so how old's the kid 13 13 so you might
01:03:30.600be paid alimony and child support for another five years yeah maybe now the terrible thing is
01:03:36.360in some states they've extended it beyond a lot of people think oh 18 years uh it can be extended
01:03:42.860up through college now some of these states i think in california if they go to college that's
01:03:49.140another four years till like 21, 22, something like that. Um, okay. May I ask how much does he
01:03:56.640pay you in alimony per month? No. Child support per month? No, I don't want to disclose that.
01:04:02.400Uh, is it enough that you don't have to work? No, definitely not. So you are currently working. I
01:04:09.360am currently working. Yes. Okay. All right. Well, I certainly have criticisms of alimony.
01:04:15.100i agree with you i agree but i i wouldn't deny it no i think you know look if the woman wasn't0.63
01:04:23.660working then you know for some period of time it might be warranted but uh you know if it's
01:04:31.460a lifetime award of alimony can i just say he's also he's such a good man i think that because
01:04:38.980we have such a difficult situation between us that he could he could have totally fought for
01:04:45.280not giving me alimony or giving me lower alimony but because he realized the situation we're in
01:04:50.540he didn't want to fight it he's a stand-up guy while i have this pulled up pelagic says it's0.72
01:04:57.120all bullshit with the hundred dollar soup chat good to see you pelagic it's been a moment i'll0.96
01:05:02.460know what that's directed to i don't know if it's directed at her he says it's all bs0.94
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01:05:32.480hmm interesting uh okay what about you relationship i'm married for how long it'll be a year in
01:05:41.040september how long together it'll be three years in july is this your longest relationship no have
01:05:46.780you been married before no longest relationship three and a half years any kids i have a stepson
01:05:53.000stepson okay all right got it uh what about you uh divorced and single only married once
01:06:02.060yep any kids two same father yes okay two kids uh how long were you together with a guy
01:06:09.860uh all together like 10 or 11 years ish okay um you were married does he pay you alimony
01:06:19.180god no did he ever pay you alimony no uh who has custody or is it we both do both have custody
01:06:25.40050 50 yep co-parent we try we're working on it is there conflict a little here and there but it's
01:06:33.780not too bad does he pay you child support no do you pay him child support no okay all right
01:06:39.520new york's not friendly with divorce so you have to kind of set your terms prior to even
01:06:43.880going to the court otherwise they probably would have made him got it okay all right um let's see
01:06:52.540what we need to dive into now i might need to get up momentarily but uh heart broken why did i write
01:07:00.400down heart broken heart broken you said i forgot all right heart broken heart broken okay um
01:07:13.860let's see uh why don't we just uh dive into the one of the disagreements i wanted to dive into
01:07:22.540uh drea you in messages sent to our instagram we originally had had you scheduled but then
01:07:30.880uh you had i don't know if you want to get into that original scheduling question but
01:07:37.000well i mean uh i'm gonna have to bring up why i'm here now and i'm not to talk about that so
01:07:43.860Oh, okay. I don't see how that would be material. But originally, though, when we had you scheduled, I suppose the reasons as to why you're here now are not material. The reason you cited as to backing out originally was the, you said the podcast is sexist.
01:08:04.080I don't think that's why I backed out.
01:14:05.540But that's just one clip, so it's sexist to say, oh, I saw this one instance, so that means...
01:14:10.920Well, so it's not just an outlier.0.98
01:14:14.420That's like if I saw a black dude rob a liquor store, and I go, oh, all black men rob liquor stores.0.94
01:14:18.760Well, but the difference here is that oftentimes female professional teams, even female Olympic teams, will compete against underage boys.0.98
01:15:55.460There may be instances where the professional adult elite female players perhaps here and there might beat 15-year-old boys, which I don't know if it's particularly worthy of bragging about.
01:16:09.280in all instances of a professional female team playing against a professional male team
01:16:15.440the the women will always lose nobody's arguing that i'm arguing you posting a clip saying little
01:16:22.380boys beat professional but that's not what the clip that's what you said well not i i didn't say
01:16:26.840in all instances but even you know but do you understand how that's sexist to say like i've
01:16:32.580seen this happen once so now i'm going to say it applies to everybody is the general principle true
01:16:37.520though. When you match up professional female soccer players, or it could be 10, some other
01:16:43.500thing, and you match them up with 15-year-old boys, perhaps I could be wrong. It's not all
01:16:48.360the time. Although I don't think that was my claim. My claim is the vast majority of the time,
01:16:53.320the 15-year-old boys are going to out-compete the professional female athletes.1.00
01:16:56.720Well, first of all, which fucking sicko is sitting around watching little boys1.00
01:16:59.740battle women? Let's start with that.1.00
01:17:02.100Well, trust me, most people don't watch women's sports to begin with.
01:17:08.760Well, so I don't think it's necessarily about people like hanging out to watch 15 year old boys play soccer, but the results will be posted.
01:17:17.920Well, the criticism is not about watching the sport.
01:17:22.640So, for example, you would agree with me that the results of soccer games are just posted online?
01:32:52.160No, but, okay, so for example, oftentimes in sprinting events, you typically see not just even African Americans, you often see black people who are typically the ones participating in sprint, the 100-meter race or whatever, or some of the other more, you know, 200-meter, 400-meter.
01:33:14.840And so from a genetic perspective, I think there is something there.
01:33:41.920Sometimes I don't know why I got that mixed up.
01:33:43.840So they have found that in certain, when doing genetic analysis of athletes, that black people are more likely, on average, to have the fast twitch muscle fibers, more of them, I guess.
01:34:00.400Would that be like racist to point out?
01:34:24.640Like, sickle cell anemia, pointing out that black people are a bit more predisposed to sickle cell anemia, is that racist or is it just factually true?
02:03:14.720No, no, I said before, I'm talking about the girl that I see if I saw her on the street.
02:03:18.520No, you just said, any guy would be lucky to have her.1.00
02:03:20.220If I saw her on the street, I'm not saying, I don't know what she does for a living, if I said, I would be like, oh my gosh, that girl is, somebody gotta wife her up.1.00
02:03:28.360Oh, well, great, okay, an 18-year-old woman who's never fucked any guys, and she's got the perfect titties and is beautiful and has all the positives.1.00
02:03:37.060We can always craft hypothetical scenarios where someone would prefer to date this person.0.99
02:03:44.100Now, look, to her credit, whether it's part of her OnlyFans shtick or not, she has some self-awareness that men –
02:03:53.420Now, look, also a lot of these OF girls who claim to be single, many of them lie that they're single.
02:04:00.160Many of them have, like, long-term relationships and boyfriends.0.98
02:08:00.820And so she's the main, there's a, like a Russian woman who's like Peter Parker's neighbor who has about like 30 seconds of screen time or something.
02:11:18.200Here, what are the biggest contributors of my preferences that bring it down to 1 in 20,000 women will?1.00
02:11:29.140Okay, so you want, like, the biggest contributors.1.00
02:11:31.780So we have, like, between a 4.5 and 7.5 aesthetically.
02:11:37.180Single, conservative, prefer homemaking, and then, of course, the marriage statistic.0.61
02:11:45.340But that being said, I want to grant to you that you should be able to persuade some of the women that want marriage into not wanting marriage.0.51
02:11:52.740So the statistic, like, isn't exactly accurate because there's going to be some women that are like, yeah, I want marriage.
02:12:12.840But it actually gives you a larger number because if I was to subtract, if I was to say like 80% whatever are not conservative and I was to subtract that percentage, then I would be like making an inaccurate statistic because it would be like, oh, well, what if one of the things later like wants marriage?
02:12:31.440What if I already took that group out?
02:12:33.420But when I'm doing it the other way, I'm actually like giving you a bigger number than it would be in reality potentially.
02:12:45.820The math, no, because I think what you're doing there, you have to realize that, at least my interpretation here, and perhaps I'm wrong, but my understanding of what you just did there, you're assuming that all these groups chip away continuously.
02:13:32.140So this is not really a compelling argument that first off your math is wrong.
02:13:36.000Well, okay, all you've simply presented to me was there's a one in 20,000 chance you'll find a woman who's okay with not being married who also meets your other criteria.
02:13:46.700No, because you could persuade some people who do ideally want marriage.
02:13:49.460Okay, so what is the actual percentage then?
02:13:51.340Well, that would be up for your interpretation.
02:13:54.500That would be up for how many women do you think that you can persuade?
02:13:57.720Obviously, we know that it significantly increases your dating pool if you're open to marriage, right?
02:16:01.240I'm going to go ahead and convince that absolutely there are going to be some women who will not date me purely off of the, like that would perhaps would otherwise date me if I was on board with getting married.
02:16:12.660Now, again, just to reiterate and be clear, whoever I'm going to be with long term, I intend to be long term with them.
02:16:19.500If we have kids, uh, absent some catastrophe or whatever, you know, where, who knows some,
02:16:25.580she becomes a demon or something. I'm going to be with her for life. We're going to stay
02:16:28.960together for life. We're going to have many kids. So there's that. It's not some, sometimes when I
02:16:34.500say I'm anti-marriage, people think, Oh, you don't want kids. Oh, you don't want, you can't
02:16:40.320be in a monogamous. Oh, you can't stay with a woman forever. No, that's not true. I can,
02:16:44.980anything i can have in marriage i can have just in a i'm just with her forever agreed if you can
02:16:53.240find them i don't think it's all that crazy like we look a lot of people uh you know it might be
02:17:00.160a bit of a hurdle with women who are genuinely seriously religious right um who it's like it's
02:17:07.520part of their ideology or whatever right well i i'm christian i gotta get married right um although0.85
02:17:13.340i think a lot of women might balance that over uh you know if the value proposition is there0.96
02:17:18.760but look i'm interested in i'm happy to concede and acknowledge yeah some women are going to be
02:17:24.940like i would date him he doesn't want to get married don't want to date him yes convince me
02:17:30.040what are the benefits like make it i understand like okay yes it closes the door for some people
02:17:36.080but you can do all sorts of things that closes the door opens the door oh 100 percent why should
02:17:43.320I or other men get married you shouldn't if you're not religious you shouldn't but that being said
02:17:49.500that being said that being said my point still stands true that you are significantly decreasing
02:17:54.860your dating pool so my argument to be to getting married would be that you have a better chance at
02:18:01.420finding that long-term person that would be my argument but in terms of like what you cost though
02:18:06.020like but so hold on before you continue I want you to come in uh yeah so there are legal and
02:18:10.940medical benefits of marriage um such as like decision making if your spouse is unable to make
02:18:17.540a medical decision um that can be very beneficial or like legal like say you have a child together
02:18:23.360and legally you need to go get them from the police station or something and you have no way to prove
02:18:27.780that you're related because there's no like documentation or anything through your marriage
02:18:32.980and like sharing of last name or something like that like there are legal and medical
02:18:36.540benefits of marriage okay well so i'll address the first one and then the second one okay so
02:18:41.980the first point you made was uh for medical reasons so there's something called an advanced
02:18:47.520health care directive which would operate exactly the same so i the same thing that can be
02:18:53.520done through marriage can also be accomplished through other means that don't involve in the1.00
02:18:59.680event that for whatever reason she changes up she cheats up whatever it is i don't have to pay her0.55
02:19:05.30050% of my money. I mean, prenups are a thing. Okay. I don't care. Prenups are challenged.0.63
02:19:12.220Even if you get married and you have the best prenup ever, it gets challenged. If you're a
02:19:17.380high earner, you're going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees unwinding the0.98
02:19:22.700marriage. If she's not making money, you're going to have to pay not for only your attorney, for1.00
02:19:27.600her attorney. You're going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees. You're going
02:19:32.360to have to, like a prenup cannot say, okay, we're going to get married, but in the event of a
02:19:38.780divorce, you get nothing. That's not an enforceable prenup. So this idea that, okay, we'll just get a
02:19:43.580prenup. Uh, how about I can just date a girl forever. And if she does some fuck shit and our
02:19:48.760relationship is over, I don't have to pay her for alimony for 10 years. She doesn't get 50% of all1.00
02:19:56.140the money I earned during the course of that marriage. So yeah, prenups can like, here's how
02:20:02.700a prenup would work. If I don't have a prenup, I'm a hundred percent fucked. If I have an 80%,0.98
02:20:07.100excuse me, if I have a prenup, I'm 80% fucked. I'm still fucked. I'm less fucked, but still1.00
02:20:14.140fucked. Whereas if I'm not married, say we don't have kids, not fucked. Oh, okay. You're my1.00
02:20:21.920girlfriend and you're I can just toss you out you're doing some retarded shit I can completely1.00
02:20:29.900unwind you from my life instantly but that's exactly why you should get married you're for1.00
02:20:35.920what for for the not well I guess no women can be breadwinners for the non-breadwinner yes my1.00
02:20:41.600question to you women why should I get married what's the benefit to me men men don't want to0.85
02:20:50.980take care of you being taken you're his long-term girlfriend oh you guys are incoherent hold on no
02:20:56.440no i have i kind of have a point so let's say you date a girl for 10 years and you toss her out
02:21:03.340the second she messes up right because a woman will never be 100 loyal to you unless you commit
02:21:10.040no hold on oh unless you commit to her fully and you say i will i vow to take care of you for the
02:21:18.740rest of my life wait hold on wait hold on commit fully i said fully oh my god wait i'm gonna jump
02:21:26.340into that does anybody it's a little toast a little warming does anybody want a popsicle
02:21:30.300yes okay yes yes no they're good you're johnny pops popsicle i'm okay okay so yes yes yes okay
02:21:40.580no there's more come on there's definitely more right yeah okay uh three please chair two chair
02:21:48.000three chair five uh okay no sorry it's just them now i guess um okay i don't know you had your you
02:21:56.340had your time you had your chance i guess i said yes oh i didn't okay get four then i would get
02:22:00.540one get four wait what you want one um maybe later okay we'll we'll have another round of
02:22:06.540popsicle offerings okay you were married did that protect the guy and he was perfect and did
02:22:14.660nothing wrong. No, he didn't do nothing wrong, but I take accountability for my part. Okay,
02:22:19.480was your husband abusive? No, God. Did he ever cheat on you? I'm not going to answer these other
02:22:25.520questions, but I'm saying like... So he did cheat on you then? It's hard to tell. It wasn't
02:22:31.940conclusive. Let's just say that. It wasn't conclusive? Because I'd never actually seen it,
02:22:36.880but I have reason to believe that he wasn't always going. Okay, was your marriage a dead
02:22:40.740bedroom oh for two years yes for almost two years but my point is that have you ever loved someone
02:22:48.220so much that you did not want to let them go wait wait wait hold on so this idea that
02:22:55.440she will that it takes marriage for her to be loyal to me that's your position yeah because1.00
02:23:02.820women will never give you everything you want as a man unless they have security1.00
02:23:06.560what are the security security security security that's okay hold on no what okay so i can have i0.91
02:23:16.180can stay with her forever she can stay with me forever we can have kids we can be loyal to each
02:23:21.400other what is the security i can get from marriage that i can't just get if i'm with her for the rest
02:23:27.300of my life i'm not saying you're gonna get security from marriage she needs security for marriage0.93
02:23:31.380Because at any given point, even if you have 10 kids, you can toss her out of the house.1.00
02:23:46.620Because if you are committed and you have a contract where it says you're going to give her half of everything you have, you're going to rethink it a million times over.
02:42:14.060I mean, it is true that women are more social than men, like, if we're generalizing, but that being said, I think, like, sure, you could say maybe more men, like, want peace and quiet versus more women don't want that, but that being said, I think that has to do with the fact that probably, and I'm not for sure, I think more men might be avoidant and more women might be anxious.
02:42:36.140And one thing you said, too, about the men dying alone and not having a best friend.
02:42:41.000I just think that's because of the lack of community that, because of our society.
02:53:13.260would you still give her everything that you just said if it wasn't if it was it's just that i mean
02:53:19.200it's okay there's no cheating no there's no cheat there's not like like there's disrespect let's say
02:53:24.520that most relationships fall apart because of disrespect impossible for me yeah so you would
02:53:31.020give her nothing no well what i'm saying look um okay so she's she's just what how how do you mean0.98
02:53:36.880disrespect oh like like she's tearing you apart like she like most women emasculate men nowadays
02:53:43.740most yeah 100 most i would say that i would say i would say the majority of the relationships0.95
02:53:51.460today fall apart because women do not respect men uh how about this the the alima the voluntary0.66
02:53:57.600alimony would be on the sliding scale so that's great so if you're like so if you're slightly1.00
02:54:05.200Yeah, because I'm not going to look, okay, you're being a fucking raging bitch, but you didn't cheat or there wasn't some other really fucking fucked up shit you did.1.00
02:54:16.180All right, I'll give you one year.1.00
02:58:11.460I would end up with and go for she would be I don't anticipate look people can change I understand
02:58:18.800that I would not anticipate whoever I end up picking that it would be that way of course
02:58:28.200though things change things change so I don't know I'm not too worried about that I'm not too
02:58:34.360worried anyways let's move on to a different topic here moving on to a different topic let's
02:58:38.300do some stuff from the questionnaire uh okay drea you say women do not have equal rights to men in
02:58:45.740the usa why uh hold on let's see if anyone else but why is that uh abortion okay abortion uh anything
02:58:55.020else that's the main one we're talking strictly rights legal yeah just legal rights yeah that's
02:59:01.220pretty chopped okay chopped black and white clear clear cut okay uh just really quick just for a
02:59:06.880temperature check on the panel uh show of hands who here is pro-choice show of hands pro-choice
02:59:13.340like you believe they can get abortions higher raise it higher raise it okay all right don't
02:59:20.540do a roman salute though okay we have a jewish woman at the table i'm offended i'm offended0.94
02:59:25.260and then uh who's pro-life raise your hand if you're pro-life all right so we got some more0.71
02:59:33.240we got three pro-choice uh all right now do you guys agree with her that it's an inequality of
02:59:39.460rights between men and women that uh why in some states uh women can't get abortions is that
02:59:47.080no i mean you just saw the panel right now i mean a majority of women just
02:59:52.300raise their hand for pro-life so i think that it's a it's just a mix of opinions not gender
02:59:58.480Sure. So I guess I'll engage a little bit on the abortion thing. So it might be the case that it is a right that women don't have. Right. So abortion in some states. So Roe v. Wade was repealed. So that kicked it back to the states.
03:00:14.660Like California, for example, the state we're in1.00
03:14:51.920I guess the equivalent would be if there was a law from the government that said you don't have a choice as to whether or not they get circumcised, then it would be equivalent to the abortion.
03:15:00.800But you still have a choice to abort.0.61
03:15:45.140But my understanding with the hygiene thing, men who are uncut can observe just as good hygiene.
03:15:58.200Now, it might, if they aren't taking the certain steps to observe good hygiene, then, you know.
03:16:06.400But I don't think, even if it was true that, you know, okay, you got to wash it a little better, whatever.
03:16:13.140I don't think we should be mutilating the genitals of boys just because the hygiene might be a teeny bit better.0.56
03:16:20.220But what if, like, also they want to get a circumcision in the future, like, when they're older,
03:16:24.200and then they keep getting, like, boners after the surgery, and then it keeps tearing,
03:16:27.920and, like, they have to keep getting it restitched up?
03:16:29.920That's, like, a genuine question, because isn't it, like, safer to do it when they're, like, a baby?
03:16:33.760I'm not saying they should get it done, but I'm saying, like, realistically in a societal, except, like, it's a societal thing.
03:16:39.980Okay, but then this would have to apply to other forms of surgery where, okay, yeah, doing it when they're infants would confer some benefit as to...
03:27:47.040I'm talking about a specific religious group that believes that this is the best practice for their laws and for their understanding.
03:27:56.580And I'm telling you that America is foundationally Christian, and they believe in the New Testament,
03:28:02.860which I believe gives them the authority to reject the prescriptions in the Old Testament.0.87
03:28:09.020And so America, being a Christian nation, can reject the prescriptions of Judaism0.70
03:28:15.040and pass a law preventing circumcision.0.98
03:28:20.860Much in the same way, you realize that there are cultures that are infiltrating the United States.0.86
03:28:26.760And I believe there are certain African, like from African countries that believe in, maybe it's the Middle East too, that believe in the female genital mutilation.0.99
03:28:38.760So a baby girl is born, you cut the clit off.1.00
03:34:44.760Let's say that collectively a majority of people in the United States, I'm able through my rhetorical flourish and prowess, which frankly there's not much of, but I'm able to convince 51% of the United States populace to elect representatives that will ban circumcision.
03:35:05.720What would – do you actually have –0.82
03:35:07.320So this would be like Nazi Germany basically because –
03:41:38.560but that's their problem we're not forcing it on anyone just like we're not forcing it we're not
03:41:43.780telling anyone but so my criticism is not specifically about a jewish practice obviously
03:41:48.940gentiles and um secular people christians uh have their boy circumcised but my position is uh no we0.82
03:41:58.640should not allow that we should ban it and it's not it's not an anti-jewish thing okay so should0.62
03:42:03.860Should we ban all people from eating, you know, chips because chips have, like Doritos have Red 40 in them and we should all just stop eating Red 40 chips because it's harming?
03:42:15.020I do believe we did ban certain food coloring.0.70
03:42:18.380Okay, but do you feel that it's abuse if a mother goes to Mexico and buys Red 40 chips, Doritos, and brings it home, will you arrest her?0.95
03:42:27.200Will you put her in prison for doing that?0.87
03:49:21.040If I, in my tyrannical power, completely stamped out anti-Semitism in this country, but I banned circumcision, would you take the trade?0.98
04:06:56.580Now, look, I'll be charitable. In some instances, albeit rare, the foreskin can be too tight and it can present difficulty.
04:07:06.860It could present pain when they get an erection, although I would argue that the side effects or potential complications of circumcision outweigh the potential complications of remaining intact.
04:07:18.960Setting that aside, you do agree, though, that there are plenty of men, especially in Europe and other countries, where there's not circumcision, and medically they're fine.
04:14:40.660Hypothetically speaking, let's say there was a, let's say it was Islam, right?0.69
04:14:47.500And I don't believe it's actually the case in Islam.0.59
04:14:49.540There are some hadiths that hint at female genital mutilation, but it isn't – I don't believe in Islam that it is a requirement that women be mutilated.
04:15:03.140So let's say, though, there was an old world religion.0.93
04:15:08.540Let's say it's Islam, hypothetically speaking, where they remove the clitoris of women as part of a religious practice.0.89
04:15:17.500Would you think that that should be allowed in the United States?0.95
04:29:35.700Women were created to nurture and love and take care as a man was created to provide and protect.
04:29:43.620So I shouldn't do anything outside of my womanly role.
04:29:48.100Your materialistic worldview, a woman can experience a dynamic where she stays at home and does all those things, and the man is the sole or primary breadwinner, and she need not deserve or even get luxury lifestyle.
04:30:05.340a woman who wants a modest life can also experience the dynamic where0.76
04:30:11.700she stays at home and does all those things and takes care of it you can do that at 200k
04:30:17.520you might depending on where you live you can do it at under 100k correct so why the additional
04:30:24.120i want the luxury lifestyle maybe because i never came from money and i never came from like
04:30:32.000you know so you deserve it less than not necessarily that i deserve it i want it
04:30:36.700it's not that i deserve it or don't deserve it it's what i prefer so i would want a man that's
04:30:41.380able to take care of me and have extra expenses for us so you're a traditional woman but you're
04:30:48.160a materialist no if i was materialistic i would be wearing designer stuff you i'm not i'm all
04:30:53.500about say you want the luxury i like the nice home and i like the nice car dependable reliable car
04:30:58.980okay so a toyota is good toyota is fine absolutely actually japanese and um yeah toyota's are no
04:31:05.520toyota's i actually drive an infinity but that's creator of nissan so it's still a japanese car0.92
04:31:11.440i'm not saying toyota's and then a nice home obviously i'm more but i don't give a shit to
04:31:16.040wear chanel and gucci i would rather put that money or more so my husband put that money into0.58
04:31:21.680my life my lifestyle how i'm living where i'm living that matters more to me than walking0.99
04:31:27.160around with a fucking like Hermes bag. I don't care for that. That's not going to do anything0.99
04:31:30.860for my life. So materialistic is you care for those things. I don't own Louboutins. I don't
04:31:37.180own like any of that shit. If I do own anything designer, which I'm sure you're looking at the0.99
04:31:42.020Cartier, he bought that for me. So I don't care for that stuff. I care more so on having a good
04:31:47.880home, good finances to go traveling with my kids and family, a nice car that's going to be reliable.
04:31:55.180So I don't like, it doesn't break down on the side of the road.
04:40:34.940Let's say I somehow roll the dice and I end up with a 20-year-old Victoria's Secret model
04:40:41.180by does that mean that because i lucked out in this scenario that i'm going to have good success
04:40:47.800once again uh dating a 20 year old supermodel are the odds against me yes yes but not impossible
04:40:58.080and if i'm turning down like a woman who's 30 who's average look i think i'm average or even
04:41:05.620And sometimes you could say below average looking.
04:41:09.200Am I being unreasonable by rejecting like the average looking 30-year-old woman because I'm holding out for the 20-year-old Victoria's Secret model because that's my minimum, minimum requirement, Victoria's Supermodel.
04:41:38.680Yeah, it would be money, and I have some other good positive characteristics.
04:41:41.000So I'm not wrong for looking at that either.
04:41:44.320Well, my position is that it seems like a discrepancy in value proposition.
04:41:49.140Like I believe a guy who makes $500,000 to, like between the age of, say, 30 and 40, who makes $500,000 to a million.
04:42:00.460I do think he, look, and I don't have issues with men becoming stepfathers or whatever, but it is true that, and this goes towards men too.
04:42:10.780Like I think a lot of women say they don't have children.0.93
04:42:14.980It is to some degree suboptimal when it comes to dating to date somebody who's a single parent.
04:42:20.880I'm not saying, look, I'm not saying it's wrong to date single parents.
04:42:23.380I think just if you're being honest, you're being realistic.
04:42:26.440i mean that's kind of what made us gravitate towards each other was
04:42:31.700both of us having kids and so we both understood that dynamic but he could date a woman who doesn't
04:42:38.160have kids this no because when he's tried it was a problem that he had a kid can i ask a question
04:42:44.700so you're like in love with this man yes so what if he lost his job and his income you would just
04:42:50.540dump him no but i would help him rebuild it all right uh here i'm gonna move it on but uh i don't
04:42:57.980know it's also just greedy i i also think yeah wait go off queen i mean it is greedy and like
04:43:05.660no but it it objectively is though because you're saying even just the statement i i i want the
04:43:10.860finer things in life is greedy and i think like as a culture and like as a society like we've
04:43:16.040normalized greed and we've normalized all this like unvirtuous behavior like vanity i'm guilty
04:43:21.400of that one but like and so it's just so natural to be like yeah i want a man that makes a lot of
04:43:26.960money because i want this lifestyle but like it's not necessary again no you're misunderstanding me
04:43:31.360i literally said three times i want to be able to provide the best life for my kids yes traveling
04:43:37.260a home that i could leave to them so they have nothing to worry about when they're older and i'm
04:45:05.060I don't need that mill, but I prefer if you have it.
04:45:08.260Oh boy. Okay. All right. Moving on. And I don't think that's fucking greedy. Wait, it is. Okay, but it's not greedy. Greedy would be literally draining him for every last fucking drop he has for shit that I only care. Here's what's greedy. That's greedy. So what, where do you put yourself in terms of the percentile of attractiveness? Not just looks, but like the curb appeal, like on a scale of one through 10 to factor in everything, personality, the kids.
04:45:38.260uh, age, looks, et cetera. What, what percent of woman are you?1.00
04:45:44.980I don't know. Like, are you a top 1% woman? I'm not understanding the question. Are you a top 1%1.00
04:45:51.800woman? You wanted to rate herself? Not yet. No. Okay. So I believe the top 1% of earners1.00
04:46:00.380is to be a top 1% earner. I, maybe it's changed a bit. $500,000 to be a top 1%
04:46:08.240earner once you get into a mill uh it's way it's half of that probably so it's like you want a one
04:46:17.500percent guy you're not a one percent woman but i have it so this argument is just well it's
04:46:24.220circular i think that because you were able to uh i'm not saying it's impossible i'm saying it's
04:46:31.820improbable and i think look you know what here we'll do this i'm representative of the male
04:46:36.400delegation i represent all men in the world as representative of the male delegation i want to
04:46:42.460congratulate you on your lucky roll of the dice you managed to get a hyper successful uh a fairly
04:46:49.960successful man who meets your income threshold hide that as representative of the male delegation
04:46:58.020though in the event that this doesn't work out with this man and hey i hope it does
04:47:02.340uh we're prepared to make you an offer here's the man we believe is commensurate with your
04:47:10.540standing you live in LA yeah all right so and you're 30 all right here's who we're gonna offer
04:47:18.260we are going to offer a how tall are you five three five three I have for you this is our
04:47:29.840best offer final offer a five foot seven mexican named rubio nice he lives in resida
04:47:38.380in la he's a good guy he's got he has two kids much like yourself from two different women um
04:47:48.080and he owns a t-shirt printing business that it it makes uh about you know 70 80 000 a year
05:57:01.840Yeah, because I went from a guy that threw his wallet at me so hard that it broke a couple of the cards in his wallet and constant yelling, fighting, me being the breadwinner, didn't like that.
05:57:18.220I like traditional to a man who is completely loving and doting and provides me with a beautiful
05:57:27.600life to where I can stay at home and just cook clean dishes laundry everything just take care
05:57:37.960of the home do y'all think body counts for men and women are different like do you think it's
05:57:42.940validated differently for a reason that's understandable yeah I feel like I just feel
05:57:47.760like men are more active in that and they don't really they don't really get emotionally attached
05:57:52.280as much as women do when it comes to sexual wouldn't that make it worse though because if1.00
05:57:57.540women are doing it for an intimate reason majority of women why is it that women are the ones that0.89
05:58:02.240get bashed for it a woman's body count says a different thing than a man's body count that
05:58:07.700being said I want to say like I think that both people should like save themselves for someone
05:58:12.020that they love. Um, but like one example, like men, when they're going to have sex, it's sexual0.60
05:58:18.640a lot of the time, a lot of the time for women, it's a validation thing. And what that shows is0.69
05:58:23.760like, um, is like a pretty much a lack of emotional maturity. Now you could argue and say like a guy
05:58:29.780is doing it for sexual things is also emotional immaturity, but it's a very big lack of emotional
05:58:34.000immaturity because there, if you're having sex for validation, like that is not going to get you
05:58:38.880what you want ever that it's only going to make it worse it's counterproductive and if you keep0.99
05:58:42.700doing that and you keep doing that like it really shows that you're kind of dumb yeah but it also0.99
05:58:47.460means like a different thing because women it's so much easier for them to get a guy like it doesn't0.99
05:58:52.200matter like how you look like there is a man that will sleep with you and and for a man it's not so0.94
05:58:58.560easy and so like it kind of shows also like lower standards per se yeah that's very true kind of
05:59:06.160like, I feel like that adds on to like compliments for men too. Like they don't get as many. So
05:59:09.620that's why they value it more in a sense. So like when they like have a woman that's like,0.59
05:59:14.260yeah, I want to sleep with you. They're like, well, yeah, I don't really get that often. You1.00
05:59:17.660know, that chance as much as women do compared to. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's also just like having1.00
05:59:23.220lower standards. Like if you're going to go and sleep with like a bunch of people, like it kind
05:59:27.620of just shows like what you like to do for fun and like, it's pretty easy for you. And like,
05:59:32.100again like either you're doing it because you enjoy it and then that in my opinion is like1.00
05:59:39.620if you enjoy being promiscuous is morally bad or you're doing it because you're stupid1.00
05:59:43.040and that would be because you're trying to fill a void or something that just there's no way that0.99
05:59:48.460you can yeah do it that way yeah definitely you guys want to know something crazy yes okay so i
05:59:54.940was dating this guy and he actually matched with me on a dating app and he was like it was love at
06:00:01.020first sight like total love bombing it was love at first sight like you're the most beautiful girl
06:00:04.640i've ever seen like and we date and i think everything's great and then about six oh by the
06:00:10.920way we like basically live together about six months in we have a fight and he ghosts me and
06:00:16.880never speaks to me ever again he never told me why he went out he went out i actually went out too
06:00:22.860and we like met up and we had a fight because i said i don't want you buying drinks for other
06:00:27.000girls and i won't accept drinks from men and i saw him buying drinks for other girls and then he
06:00:31.940didn't text me all night he didn't text me the all the day after he called me he was like we're
06:00:36.580breaking up he wouldn't tell me why he wouldn't meet with me in person never spoke to me ever
06:00:40.600again i tried reaching out a couple times dropped his stuff off at his house yeah i think it's the
06:00:45.400most cowardly thing that you can do is well not the most cowardly thing that you can do i think
06:00:50.180it's extremely extremely cowardly thing like he was too afraid of the confrontation of like
06:00:54.920breaking up with somebody telling them why face to face it was wild and it was really hard to get
06:01:00.260over that too yeah you have absolutely no closure you can't get closure you think one day this is
06:01:04.780great this is the love of my life he wants to marry me he wants me to be the mother of his kids and
06:01:08.500next he's gone and you never know why I have that same kind of situation with one of the guys he was
06:01:12.920in the military you know saying the same things to me and then he told me oh um I won't be able
06:01:17.680to have my phone because I'm going like training for like two or four to eight weeks and I was like
06:01:22.320oh I totally understand like I'll just keep you updated so when you get back like we'll have
06:01:25.740things to talk about well I totally believed him but like I found on his Instagram he was liking
06:01:30.740all these other girls posts which I didn't mind because we were just talking like I get it we're
06:01:34.900not dating but the issue was he was ignoring all of my messages all of that and I was thinking okay
06:01:40.420well clearly you're lying to me and he ghosted me and then it wasn't until months later that he
06:01:45.060was like yeah well I just thought it'd be easier to just ghosting instead of saying like I didn't
06:01:50.300mean anything that I said and I was like okay well I would have appreciated and respected more for
06:01:54.380you just be honest and come to me and be like hey I actually didn't mean all that you know what I
06:01:59.100mean so it's it definitely like kind of messes with your like what what was the point of that
06:02:03.880well you're gonna run every single worst possible case scenario like it definitely takes a really
06:02:07.920big toll on your self-esteem but I think when you go through something like that it also does really
06:02:11.360build character definitely like any hardship is going to build character but there's also the
06:02:15.040contrary my brother told me a story where he was dating this girl and they lived in separate places
06:02:19.800and the guy uh wanted to break not my brother dating a girl a guy wanted to break up with this
06:02:24.580girl and he flew from where he lived to where the girl lived to break up with her in person for one
06:02:30.240day and then flew back and i'm like that's good quality yeah right there that's very respectable
06:02:35.880i think if you're gonna do something like that's obviously gonna hurt a person do it with some
06:02:40.280decency but then there's this whole mentality of like no but i don't owe you anything i don't owe
06:02:44.800anything it's like you owe basic human decency yeah to everyone yeah that's very true yeah
06:02:52.820can we go back to the body count thing oh yeah why do you guys think it what were you saying0.99
06:02:59.360that you think women are morally not as good if they fuck a lot of men yes they're subjectified0.99
06:03:07.080to being less than a man is what they're saying for their body counts they're morally not as good0.99
06:03:14.340why i don't think it's morally i don't think it's morally i think it's a it's a quality thing
06:03:22.380it's a value thing i think morally the act of promiscuity is just as bad for men and women
06:03:27.980but for a man to be promiscuous it lowers his value less than it would for a woman to be
06:03:32.400promiscuous i also think that for a man to be promiscuous it's mostly just like a maturity1.00
06:03:38.280thing versus for a woman it's either immoral or you're stupid it's a social construct so you1.00
06:03:43.940You think men, if they fuck a lot, they're just immature and it's not their fault, but1.00
06:34:49.640okay um he cheated on you uh and he lusted over your best friend roommate and you forgave him0.96
06:34:59.080stings okay you're planning on saving yourself for me oh so you weren't having sex with him i0.96
06:35:04.280was a virgin and then well we did later before or after the skid marks uh before before the
06:35:13.000skid marks sure yes wait so how long did you wait how long did i wait a year one year yes
06:35:19.380So he was lusting after the, before he was doing it the whole time, but we talked about it later, but yeah, no, I was a virgin and I wanted to save myself for marriage. Um, and then I was like, we're not allowed to do this. And then he just like did it anyways. And I was like, okay, well it's done now. I'm not a virgin anymore. So I just like went with it. So I'm not claiming like, like I don't feel like, I don't know.
06:35:42.040You wrote at the time you were planning on saving yourself from marriage until one day you were kissing and stuff he did without permission.
07:34:27.520And how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
07:34:30.840i don't care about height because in puerto rico everybody's really short the latino men
07:34:38.600are the latino men are very very short so i've i've honestly never cared about height
07:34:43.900all right uh we'll get back to you in a moment i want to bring it back to homegirl drea here
07:34:49.300uh so okay you think i grew up sexist or something or like taught sexism i'm confused
07:34:57.480If you can just recapulate, recapulate, encapsulate.
07:35:00.840No, I don't think you were taught sexism, but I think patriarchal society, especially white men, are raised to view men as better than women.0.64
07:36:27.660I think in the white household, especially white mothers, they raise their sons to be dominant over them, and they kind of spoil them, let them do what they want, et cetera.0.76
07:36:38.000if you go into a latino household or black household the mothers are teaching their men0.85
07:36:43.260to be more respectful just in terms of how they teach their treat their mothers that is a box of0.99
07:36:48.540worms that can very quickly go into some interesting places they always have the stereotype
07:36:54.360like especially in black comedy they'll always constantly refer to like oh i went to my friend's1.00
07:37:01.020house and he was like fuck you bitch to their mom and shit like that uh okay but do you think0.99
07:37:05.680i'm a misogynist no i said you were but you do think i am a sexist no i didn't say you were1.00
07:37:10.860sexist but i think i was raised i think you have a little bit of sexist ideologies such as in your
07:37:17.400subconscious in my subconscious yeah what are those i just think that you are constantly trying
07:37:24.040to prove that women are are not oppressed that's true that we that's true that men and women are
07:37:30.560equal you're just like so desperate i'm trying to prove that men and women are equal well you're
07:37:35.260constantly trying to argue that there's no inequality like with the rights thing and
07:37:42.940stuff like that but you only gave me one and that was abortion well what else do you think well can
07:37:47.520you name a right that the man has that the woman doesn't did that whole conversation no but you
07:37:51.340didn't so okay men and women do have equal rights correct no we already did that entire conversation
07:37:55.900with the abortion men and women have equal rights okay say say we just go ahead and grant that you're
07:38:01.900right. You know, the abortion, it's unequal. Besides abortion, do men and women have equal
07:38:05.680rights? Well, the abortion is what I'm arguing that they don't. I know, but I'm saying set that1.00
07:38:10.540aside. Do men and women have equal rights? Let me think. Yeah, yeah, we can get you energy drinks.
07:38:27.740Tiffany, can you get her an energy? She'll bring you. Go ahead.1.00
07:38:31.900do men and women have equal rights for now for now they do if you're not talking about abortion
07:38:40.620if abortion didn't exist and that wasn't a thing okay so they do have equal rights if we're not
07:38:48.140talking about abortion but you're not gonna besides i'm gonna go just for the sake of it0.98
07:38:51.920i'll go ahead and grant i guess you could just eliminate whatever the fuck you want out of the0.95
07:38:55.060argument and then say you're right but no well i mean that's the only thing we're setting aside0.90
07:38:58.600So I'm looking for another example of a way.
07:39:00.260Well, that's the only example, and that's the only one you need if we're arguing if
07:40:23.700Well, I mean, the podcast isn't specifically focused on that.
07:40:27.100it's we talk about i feel like you're like a devil's advocate a little bit but we we're mostly
07:40:32.120talking about dating and sometimes these other topics come up but it's mostly about dating i
07:40:36.660wouldn't say it's mostly dating i would say the core of your podcast is to argue men versus women
07:40:41.940it's not necessarily dating every topic we've discussed is you arguing members women
07:40:46.780no not necessarily which one did we argue that does not it's not men versus women i guess you
07:40:53.620There's all kinds of some of the topics were not particularly argumentative and they were more just a bit more lighthearted or more fun or whatever.
07:41:01.400Some of the sex talk was not particularly argumentative.
07:41:04.200Maybe some of it was, but the majority of it is you as a man arguing male viewpoint versus women viewpoint.0.51
08:11:27.020Do you know how much ocean water there is?
08:11:29.520That production doesn't exist on a global scale.
08:11:32.060Not currently, but we have robust water supplies without salination.
08:11:36.700But I'm saying in order to save us as a species, it has to be a global thing, and we're never going to come together on a global level to save the species.
08:11:45.900First off, there's more cooperation between nations now than at any point in human history.
08:22:38.160Because there's been multiple times where I'm like, oh, I think he's kind of gay.1.00
08:22:41.840Like, I start realizing, and it's because, really, they're attracted to, like, a big physique, a big, you know, because they're, like, closeted homosexuals.0.99
08:27:36.660I think what I was talking about military deaths, but I think if you factor in, we should have specified, if you maybe factor in civilian deaths, the grouping might outpace the total deaths, including civilians and military.
08:27:58.540But, yes, military deaths, World War I, like, for sure, far more my understanding.
08:28:04.020And according to you, it is correct.0.70
09:24:41.160We would have to look it up, but you can move on.1.00
09:24:42.840Okay, well, but yes, the vagina is self-cleaning,1.00
09:24:46.260But, like, the situations I'm always presenting, it's, like, right after or even, like, if I say the one day, two day, three days, it's still gross.1.00
09:24:55.120But how about that thing that people say?
09:24:58.560Because I've seen you say things that, like, that are, like, oh, I don't think we should always think about studies, right?
09:35:35.600So I agree that I think for a lot of people, and it's become more prevalent that when it comes to age gap relationships, yes, there is some social stigma out there.
09:35:43.980Like some people will definitely shame you.
09:35:45.900they're going to look strangely more so at the older person but also they'll also kind of look
09:35:51.340strangely at the younger person but uh yeah this is not untrue you will face some scrutiny
09:35:59.060absolutely absolutely also but you know history uh you know interracial relationships were also0.97
09:36:06.600looked at in the same way so it's like fuck them who cares i mean at the end of the day everybody0.83
09:36:11.400it depends case to case and i'm not like i i don't mean to this is because we're in a conversation0.98
09:36:19.420right but that is what we're doing yes we are in a pod it's my first time in a podcast anyway
09:36:25.220anyway when you are 50 years old and you bring a 18 year old to your to to to have dinner yeah
09:36:38.380that looks weird amongst your peers i'd be like that guy's a g0.99
09:36:45.100well that would be you that would be you damn bro like he got motion like he's got aura like0.99
09:36:53.100how is he that like it's hard that would be you like most young women don't want to date an older0.99
09:36:58.100guy are you kidding me yeah most women want to date a guy who's like i'd be like what's wrong
09:37:03.500with her i disagree with that severely wait how can the okay you said two things that are
09:37:09.680completely contradictory you said on one hand i think two things can be true at the same time
09:37:14.420sort of but like okay on one hand society is going to socially stigmatize age gap relationships but
09:37:19.720on the other hand a fuck ton of 18 year olds want to date older men so i was one of the 18 year olds
09:37:25.600that wanted to date older men i don't think and i still don't think that that was okay so i understand
09:37:30.340that there's outliers and everything i would argue the majority of 18 19 20 year old women
09:37:35.360probably want to date a guy who's their age one two three years older that wasn't me most okay
09:37:43.220so your experience doesn't necessarily map on to the average most 18 19 20 year old girls want to
09:37:50.460a guy who is in college who's hot and good looking and fun and attractive that's like majority of 18
09:37:56.420year old girls some 18 year old 19 20 year old women uh are finding an older guy not fine i or
09:38:03.800prefer it that's fine like because i think it's the minority not the majority the thing is that
09:38:10.140when you uh and and and and again you're talking about the the majority but there's also there's
09:38:17.220there's all types of people in this world and one of the types of people in this world was was was