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00:04:41.880 Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please

00:04:46.240 tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education. Go ahead.

00:04:52.080 Okay. Hi, my name is Shona. I'm from the Bay Area. I'm a freshman at UCSB and I'm majoring in psych.

00:05:00.180 Okay. Age?

00:05:01.600 I'm 18.

00:05:02.880 Gotcha. Okay. And what do you want to do after you graduate?

00:05:07.700 I'm interested in healthcare. So like specifically psychiatry, mental healthcare in general.

00:05:12.320 Okay. And let's see, psychology. Are you just getting your general classes out of the way now?

00:05:19.760 Is that how it works at UCSB or? Yeah. I mean, I have a lot of them already because of high school.

00:05:24.380 Like I took advanced classes, but I'm, I'm taking like science classes for like pre-med and things

00:05:29.560 like that. Okay. All right. What about you? My name is Daniela. I'm from Alaska. I'm 20 years old

00:05:37.500 and I major in econ and accounting. At UCSB? Yes. Okay. And any, do you do work or anything like

00:05:46.020 that? Yeah. I work at my apartment. A little closer. Sorry. I work at my apartment's leasing

00:05:50.620 office. Gotcha. And you're from Alaska. Can you say which part of Alaska? Fairbanks? Anchorage.

00:05:58.520 Anchorage. Okay. That's the capital, right? Wait, what's the capital? Yes. Those are the only two.

00:06:06.760 Wait, hold on. There's Anchorage, Fairbanks. How do I know Fairbanks, but not the capital?

00:06:12.700 Juno. Juno is the capital? Yeah. Wait, really? Yeah. Oh, okay. Cool. And then once you're

00:06:21.580 done with, are you, wait, are you a junior? I'm a third year. Third year. Okay. You have

00:06:26.220 a sense of what you want to do after graduation? Not really, but probably audit. I don't know.

00:06:31.740 Audit? Audit. Like taxes, stuff. Okay. Like maybe a CPA, accounting? Yeah. Okay. And I detect

00:06:39.940 a bit of an accent. No. You're just from Alaska. Yeah. Some people tell me that, but I don't

00:06:46.960 know where it comes from. Okay. All right. You speak any other languages? I speak a little

00:06:51.440 bit of Portuguese. Portuguese. I took Spanish, but I don't know it that well. Was Portuguese

00:06:57.200 your first language or? No, but my mom's from Brazil, so she taught me a little. There you

00:07:02.740 go. Okay. All right. What about you? My name is Mari. I'm 24. I do content creation. I do

00:07:12.880 OF, but it's also my last year in my university, so I'm going to get my bachelor soon. It's coming

00:07:24.120 up. I feel like it's taken forever, literally. Leave me alone. Sorry. Wait, so where are you

00:07:37.880 from? Orlando. So if you can. Orlando. Yeah, I got you, Orlando. And you grew up in Florida?

00:07:45.180 Yeah. Are you a Florida woman? Huh? You know how there's Florida man? Yeah. Are you Florida

00:07:51.080 a woman? What's the definition of a Florida woman? There's just something about people

00:07:55.780 from Florida, you know, some of them, not all of them. We shouldn't be racist towards Floridians.

00:08:04.220 They're a race of their own. No, we shouldn't be bigoted to the Floridians, but they're built

00:08:09.460 different. Well, I was born in New Jersey, so does that help? Not whatsoever, but what, sorry,

00:08:17.920 what were you studying at a university? I feel like I shouldn't really say. What? I don't

00:08:23.400 know. Just making it public like that. I feel like I keep that a secret. I don't think it'd

00:08:29.780 be like, okay, that's fine. It's easy to find if you really want to. And so when you say

00:08:34.880 you're a content creator, you said you do OnlyFans? Yeah. But it's your last year. Yeah.

00:08:40.180 Didn't you say that a year ago? No. Oh, okay. What? I had just... Try to just be straight.

00:08:46.320 I had just gotten my associates when I was here. So I had just moved into a university

00:08:51.620 when, like, I went from community college to university. I've just been moving a little

00:08:57.760 slow. All right. Okay. What about you? Hi, my name's Love. I'm 21. I'm from SoCal and I'm

00:09:06.120 in my fourth year at UCSB. All right. And what do you study at UCSB? Sociology. Sociology.

00:09:12.140 Okay. And do you have a job or anything like that? Yeah, I'm a hairstylist and I work at

00:09:19.760 a hotel. Hairstylist. Okay. Yeah. Any girls here need... She's the hookup. Can you give

00:09:26.040 them a discount? Like a 10% discount? Yeah. We can talk. Yo, we got a discount for the

00:09:30.680 whatever podcast. Code whatever for her. Do you use... What's it called? Squarespace or

00:09:37.920 Spotify? Spotify with a... Squarespace? Square for your... I just ask everyone to just DM

00:09:43.720 me. Okay. On Insta. Do you have, like... You don't have, like, a booking website or whatever?

00:09:47.500 Not yet, no. Okay. Damn. Discount code won't work. Okay. And you study sociology. Yeah.

00:09:54.900 All right. And can you tell me... I mean, you're in your fourth year. I imagine you're... You've

00:10:03.020 taken some sociology classes. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me, like, just one thing that you've learned

00:10:09.200 in sociology that you can relay to us. Well, right now in one of my classes, we're talking

00:10:15.440 about identity. So that's a big topic about how, like, media, for instance, right now, like,

00:10:21.840 influences your identity and stuff like that. Okay. So how would media influence? I don't

00:10:30.400 disagree, but how does it influence identity? Like, what you watch. So, like, if you watch

00:10:34.320 a lot of, like, I don't know, like... I don't know. If you're, like, into hip-hop and stuff,

00:10:40.460 I feel like your identity, you embrace that part of your identity, if that's what you're

00:10:45.100 into. Okay. Makes sense. Makes sense. What about you?

00:10:49.180 My name's Kira. I'm 20. I'm from SoCal. I'm a third year in college right now, and I'm

00:10:56.660 a barista. All right. And what are you studying?

00:10:59.880 I'm studying film and media. Film and media. Okay. What do you want to do after?

00:11:05.660 I want to edit, not specifically in film necessarily, although that would be cool. But, yeah, marketing,

00:11:14.060 anything, really. Yeah. Okay. Any in front of camera stuff or just behind the scenes?

00:11:20.140 Yeah. I'm not usually in front of the camera, so this is new. Yeah. I'm usually behind it.

00:11:27.020 All right. Nick, you can hide that one. It's Argentinian. Not because it's just that's like

00:11:33.980 three bucks. It's three dollars. The Argentinian currency. You got a super chat in USD. And both

00:11:41.880 of you said SoCal, you guys find sharing your city, like where you're from? Yeah. I'm from

00:11:46.260 San Diego. San Diego. What about you? Like Riverside. Riverside. Okay. What about you?

00:11:50.900 Oh, me. Okay. So, I'm Zwani. I'm 23. I'm from Tallahassee, Florida, home of Florida State.

00:11:58.840 You're looking straight at me. How do you not know this? Well, I was talking to you. No,

00:12:04.900 but when I do this, it just means speak into the microphone. Like get closer. Oh, okay.

00:12:09.280 I wish you told me that. But okay. I'm Zwani. Wait, wait. Sorry. Repeat that. You wish I told

00:12:15.720 you that? Yeah. But hold on. We told everybody multiple times before the show to speak into

00:12:22.120 the microphone. Okay. You want me? Wait, wait. You wish I told you that when I do this, that

00:12:27.680 means to speak into the microphone. Okay. Well, I was just trying to tell you personally.

00:12:30.320 Nick, add that to the pre-show. If, like, we need to be really clear. If I do that, it's

00:12:36.800 too vague. I got it. We need to explain to people that, that's just, what does that mean?

00:12:46.080 How could you ever expect that, right? Add it to the pre-show, Nick. All right. Understood.

00:12:50.980 But okay. I guess I'll speak directly into the mic. All right. I'm Zwani. I'm 23. I'm

00:12:58.020 from Tallahassee, Florida. I used to go to FSU for marketing, but that shit honestly made

00:13:06.460 me want to die. So I am now going to online school through my other job.

00:13:13.580 Um, you don't look too impressed, Brian. Don't worry about me. I'm just, you know,

00:13:22.780 the whole wanting to die thing. I'm just busting your chop. Okay. The whole wanting to die thing

00:13:26.380 kind of threw me off a little bit, but okay. No, you're good. I feel great. That's why I'm

00:13:31.500 here. That's why I'm here, Brian. But yeah. Um, I hopefully want to become a PR manager in

00:13:39.100 the future. Okay, cool. Yeah. Dope. Um, and, uh, so you're from Florida. Yes. Are you a,

00:13:48.580 are you a Florida woman? Yes, I am born and raised. All right, cool. And then are you also

00:13:55.560 a content creator? Of course I am. You do. Do you also do OF? I mean, I do, but I also don't

00:14:04.200 really get that out, you know, like I didn't really go publicly about that, you know? Okay.

00:14:13.600 Yeah. Um, any, any other kind of sex work, stripping, anything like that? I mean, if you

00:14:19.940 technically want to go there, I'm an English teacher on telegram. So you, yeah, I teach

00:14:27.340 English on telegram in the nude. No, I, but I'm talking in code. Oh, is that like code for,

00:14:38.520 I mean, what do you think you teach English on telegram? What do you think? Maybe I'm just so

00:14:45.300 innocent and naive. I'm just like, she fucking teaches English classes. You teach underprivileged

00:14:51.000 Floridians how to speak English, not Floridians, Ukrainians, Belarusians. Excuse me. I

00:14:56.900 got that wrong. You're all good, Brian. I forgive you. I appreciate it. I forgive you. Um, okay,

00:15:03.000 that's cool. Um, and, uh, by the way, I want to pay you a compliment. Your, your lashes are

00:15:13.460 the, the longest I've ever seen. Like they're going to fly off of my face or something. No,

00:15:22.420 I feel like to like, you need to have really strong eyelids to keep up the big lashes, you

00:15:30.800 know, because like I've seen fake, like, are you wearing fakes? They're like extensions or

00:15:36.780 I don't know what the, what's the difference between? Sorry, sorry. They're like, they're

00:15:40.940 like, you put them under, it's like it's individuals. Oh, versus like the would be like a whole piece.

00:15:46.420 Yeah. Um, yeah, no, they're like really big. The lashes. Yeah. Like I'm impressed. Yeah. Thank

00:15:59.240 you. They're my Wayne since I don't have any. Nice. Okay. Good talk. Um, uh, what about

00:16:08.800 you? Hi, I'm Katie. I'm 36. I'm originally from, uh, 36. Yes. Wait, what? I thought she

00:16:16.540 was one of the college girls. What the hell? No. Holy shit. Okay. 36. Yes. I can study

00:16:22.880 this girl over here. Yeah. 36. Okay. Yes. Um, I'm originally from Northern California.

00:16:27.100 Just moved to LA in February and, um, I'm a cashier. Bro, you got to some, one of these

00:16:32.860 scientists got to figure out what's going on. Um, wait, so, okay. 36. Sorry. I was so

00:16:38.180 distracted. Um, occupation. Sorry. Cashier. Cashier. All right. And you said you're from

00:16:45.500 where? Sorry. Northern California. And then education. Did you say that? I'm just high

00:16:49.140 school, like a tiny bit of college decided it wasn't for me. Dropped out. Yeah. Okay.

00:16:52.720 All right. What about you? Hi, my name is Bella. I'm 20. I'm from Sacramento, California,

00:16:58.140 and I'm a third year at UCSB for econ and accounting. All right. Yeah. And then I, yeah. Any

00:17:04.980 work or anything like that? I work remotely right now, like as a hiring manager and HR

00:17:09.780 stuff. So back-end work. All right. And, uh, Bella, after university, do you, uh, have a

00:17:16.200 sense of what you want to do? Um, yeah. I want to get an internship this, um, summer and then

00:17:21.860 like a big, what do they call it? Like the big five law firm? Big four. Big four. So like

00:17:26.620 meet the firm. Accounting firms. Yeah. Uh, investment banking is really hard, but if you do it for

00:17:32.060 like two to three years, I'm pretty sure opens a lot of doors for other things. Okay. All

00:17:36.880 right. Cool. And, uh, what about you? Uh, hi, my name's Cody. I am from Fresno and I am 42.

00:17:46.720 Um, I am a bartender and I am starting a school back in the spring for, um, drug and alcohol

00:17:55.780 counseling. All right. Rock and roll. Rock and roll. Welcome everybody. We're going to go around

00:18:00.820 the table once more. What is your current relationship status? If you're single, how

00:18:07.180 long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Really

00:18:12.540 quick though. We have a chat coming through that we're going to read. I'm going to let

00:18:16.420 that come through. Thank you. Adzils donated $200. Yeah. Thank you, man. Sup, Brian? Your

00:18:23.200 favorite Brit is back. Loved from the UK as always. Quick question. When are we getting

00:18:29.220 Q back on this show? The Q pill has been missing, especially within the last panel?

00:18:35.580 Uh, yeah. Uh, we're going to try to get him back on soon. Uh, yeah, but I've been kind of just

00:18:42.500 soloing, you know, it's been like solo. I'm skipping the, like the dungeons and stuff.

00:18:48.500 Just solo, like doing solo questing anyways. Um, yeah. Anyways. Uh, so, okay. Relationship

00:18:56.560 status. If you're single, how long have you been single and longest relationship starting

00:19:01.040 with you? Okay. So right now I'm single. I've been single my whole life and coming to college,

00:19:06.420 I'm prioritizing my education cause that's what I'm here for. It's obviously fun to have

00:19:11.500 fun and this is a fun area, but I, I want to stay focused for sure. And also like a lot of

00:19:16.540 the guys here, they don't seem very interested in longterm relationships anyway. And school just

00:19:22.780 for those of you guys who go to UCSB, it just started, right? Like last week. Yeah. Two

00:19:26.900 weeks ago. So, okay. Gotcha. Uh, so you've been single your whole life, but I mean, have

00:19:31.820 you done any dating? I've liked guys, but it's, I've never like had like a mutual like pursual

00:19:39.400 or like anything go on with a guy. So there's guys you liked, but then maybe I like guys who

00:19:45.460 don't like me back. And then the guys who like you, I don't like, you don't like them. Like I

00:19:49.680 like the chase. Yeah, exactly. Okay. You like the chase. What would happen if you actually got

00:19:54.760 one of these guys though? Would you just lose interest? I'd probably like freak out too much.

00:19:59.100 You'd freak out. And like run away. You'd be like, why would you freak out? Because it's like

00:20:03.440 kind of scary. Like that's just too, like, that's just too much to think about. So I think I'll focus

00:20:07.960 on longterm dating either like towards the end of college or like in grad school, like when I'm

00:20:12.640 older and I feel like I have my own stability a little bit. Okay. So I'm in a position to like

00:20:16.620 make the best decisions I can. But have you, have you ever been on like a date? A date? Sure.

00:20:22.560 Like you went to like hung out with a guy where there's mutual interest, I guess. Honestly,

00:20:28.260 I just kind of went because why not? So you weren't really, you weren't interested. I wasn't really

00:20:32.800 interested. No. What did you, you guys got dinner or? Yeah. Okay. And, but you weren't feeling that.

00:20:38.640 Well, they're all nice. I just, I don't want to lead people on, you know? Don't want to lead them on.

00:20:42.040 Yeah. I'm a good person. Um, so nothing then with, with a guy, like, have you held hands with a guy?

00:20:49.240 Well, yeah, I guess so. Like, have you had like more casual stuff, like any casual hookups or

00:20:54.400 anything like that? Or like a little bit, but like, not like, like no, like body count, anything like

00:21:03.740 that. Like I would never, like, I would never go anywhere. I would regret with a guy I'm not dating.

00:21:08.660 So that's always been true. Okay. So you're a virgin. Right. I just, it's kind of weird to just

00:21:13.180 like say that. Right. Well, I don't think it's weird, but, um, no, so no situationships, anything

00:21:19.360 like that? No. Okay. That's a strong term, I think. All right. If an amazing guy though came

00:21:25.620 around, I know you said you're primarily focusing on school. If a really fantastic guy came around,

00:21:30.200 would you maybe? Sure. I would really have to see it through. Like for me, like, I don't really like

00:21:35.620 the whole dating culture of like, you know, men shoot like a million shots on Instagram and then

00:21:39.740 you see what lands and it's, it's just very like superficial. I like something more organic where

00:21:44.520 you kind of get to know the person first, like your characters, you become friends and then

00:21:48.180 see where things go from there. Like it's less fake to me. Okay. I know that you're wearing a cross.

00:21:53.920 Are you Christian? Well, no, but I went, I mean, I've grown up in like a, like a multicultural

00:22:01.740 family. Like I've been surrounded by Christianity my whole life. I went to Catholic school. I

00:22:06.220 respect Christianity a lot, but this is a stylistic choice. Does that offend you? No. Um, okay. So

00:22:13.060 are you atheist agnostic? Um, I'm Hindu. Oh, Hindu. Okay. Um, and when you say you grew up

00:22:20.420 multi-culturally, like your, was it your mom who was one culture, your dad, one, another

00:22:25.320 one? Both are different cultures. So my mom's, she's from India. My dad's British. I grew

00:22:30.160 up in South Africa and then I moved here in 2014. You grew up in South Africa? Yeah.

00:22:34.660 To like seven. From, from like born there? Zero to seven. Yeah. I was born there. Oh, okay.

00:22:39.620 Sorry. I have a global perspective. If you stay there longer, you would have kept the accent.

00:22:44.600 I used to have a South African accent. It's not really funny. It's a cool accent. It's so funny,

00:22:49.260 but I got clowned when I came here. So you, yeah. So now I sound American. Yeah. Okay,

00:22:53.400 cool. All right. What about you? Uh, same here. I've never dated. Never dated. Okay. Uh,

00:23:00.020 so you're single. All right. Uh, any, I guess what's the extent of, have you hung out with

00:23:06.780 a guy? What? Yeah, I'm kind of on the, I'm kind of on the same page, like certain things

00:23:13.940 I'd only do with someone I'm dating, but yeah. Okay. Um, so have you been on like a date or

00:23:21.920 dates? Yeah. And I've had dating apps and everything, like, but it's never like been serious. Okay.

00:23:30.700 And, uh, I think, hold on. I think you wrote something specifically in your notes. Let me just

00:23:35.940 pull that up. You had written, wrote in, written wrote. Oh damn. How long, how many notes do we

00:23:43.480 have? You wrote never dated. Okay. Um, can you tell us the experience like to the point that you

00:23:53.200 have had then? Um, I've held hands, um, I've kissed, hugged, like that kind of stuff, but yeah,

00:24:02.520 nothing more. Okay. So you are, you, you're also a virgin. Yep. Okay. And have you had

00:24:07.420 a first kiss? Yeah. Okay. It's unfortunate story. Unfortunate story. Good times. Not good

00:24:14.900 times. Good times. Uh, uh, well, the first kiss can sometimes be a little awkward. All right.

00:24:20.120 What about you? I'm sorry. Okay. So my longest relationship was three and a half years. Okay.

00:24:28.540 Um, he passed away and I've been single for about almost two years. Two years. Okay. Yeah.

00:24:39.000 Single for two years. And I'm assuming the three and a half year relationship is the one that ended

00:24:43.040 two years ago or was that a different? Um, no, no, I had already, um, broken up with him and then I got

00:24:49.300 with someone else for like a year. So it happened like a year or two after our breakup. I see. Uh, can you

00:24:55.740 tell us what happened there? Yeah. He already. On what? On, you really want to know? Eh, we

00:25:04.000 don't need it. Yeah. Yeah. Fent? Fent? No. Okay. I'm sorry about that. Oh, thank you. But

00:25:11.860 yeah. Okay. Well, I'm sorry to hear about that. Uh, were you, uh, were you there? No, I was

00:25:18.740 there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was not in his life during that time period. Uh,

00:25:24.200 you've been single for two years though. Yeah. Properly, like properly single or are you? Yeah.

00:25:29.440 Properly single because like I was literally ever since I was, I've been dating since I was 15. I

00:25:34.400 would like jump and jump and jump like three different relationships, 15 to like 22 or some,

00:25:41.240 something like that. I don't know. Sure. So, yeah. Sure. Why are you saying sure? I don't like sure.

00:25:46.780 No, it wasn't a, like a, I doubt you sure. Okay. It was a, I acknowledge what you're saying.

00:25:53.200 Just making sure. Sure. Sure. For sure. For sure. Okay. What about you? Um, I've been in

00:26:00.900 relationships before situationships. Um, I'm currently single right now though. Currently

00:26:05.620 single, longest relationship? Like 10 months. 10 months. And would you call it a relationship

00:26:11.560 or was it more of a situationship? It was my first relationship. Okay. So it was a relationship,

00:26:16.080 but yeah. Gotcha. And, uh, was it monogamous? Okay. All right. And you said you've been,

00:26:22.820 sorry, you've been single for how long? Um, like technically three years. Technically three years.

00:26:28.460 Okay. Got it. All right. What about you? Um, I'm in a relationship right now. Okay. We've been

00:26:34.440 together for about a year and a half and my longest relationship was almost three years. Three years.

00:26:41.580 Okay. That three-year relationship, when did that end? Um, the start of my senior year of high school.

00:26:49.840 So we were together throughout all of high school. Yeah. Majority of high school. Yeah. It's,

00:26:53.960 it ended the start of your senior year. Yes. Okay. I see. Um, what happens? Cheating or just fell apart?

00:27:01.700 No, no, no, not cheating. We, yeah, we'd just been together for a really long time and he,

00:27:09.060 I didn't like the way that he let his mom dictate our relationship.

00:27:15.360 His mom dictated the relationship. Yeah. What, if you can maybe give us two or three examples,

00:27:20.520 what were some ways the mom was dictating the relationship?

00:27:23.460 She didn't want him to be with me. She liked me as a person. She just didn't want him to be in a

00:27:31.000 relationship. And she made that very clear. She, and like, he was not allowed to come to my house

00:27:38.260 hardly ever. Um, even if like my parents were home and my parents were like super communicative with

00:27:44.460 her. And I remember one time she had told him that my mom had emailed her and told her he couldn't

00:27:52.740 come over, which is like, my mom didn't have her email. So that was kind of funny. And you know,

00:27:58.100 if he'd like asked her to see me, she would bring up like a chore or something he had to do instead.

00:28:06.820 It just, it just wore on me after a while. I really did care about him, but it just got to a point.

00:28:12.820 I was like, I feel like I'm moving into adulthood and I don't want to feel like I'm being held down

00:28:17.580 by your mom. So. Sure. Although. I love to her though. I love her as a person. She's awesome.

00:28:25.180 Okay. And, uh, you've been in a relationship for a year and a half. Okay. What about you?

00:28:31.620 Okay. So I've been single for like a year, but I have my reasons behind it. Basically I was with a guy

00:28:40.540 and it was a trauma bond rather than, you know, a real relationship. And I'm not going to like go

00:28:51.340 through the whole turmoil because it's going to take like three other episodes to explain the whole

00:28:57.060 thing. But long story short, he literally ended up fucking my roommate from the psych ward.

00:29:06.340 Yeah. So it was nice to know that he had a type. Psych ward type. Yes. Nice. Yes. And he took her

00:29:15.640 on my dream date as well. Wait, question. Have you been to the psych ward? Well, what do you think?

00:29:23.580 I don't know. You seem very well put together. Yes. Well, now I am, but obviously it plays

00:29:30.220 fix to me. You said he has a type. So I feel like that would indicate that he's dated multiple

00:29:34.880 women. I mean, he probably likes crazy girls, but like, obviously he wants me, but he can't

00:29:42.840 get me anymore. So he's going to have to get, was he in the psych ward? He fumbled you.

00:29:48.540 Well, let me just. Did he fumble? Did he fumble you? Oh, absolutely. What does that mean?

00:29:54.240 Can't believe. What did, can't believe that guy. Let's fumble. Just fumbled. I'm just like,

00:29:58.820 he made a big fucking mistake. Big mistake. Cause like after that, I went along to visit seven

00:30:05.560 other countries. So yeah. Okay. Good times. Um, yeah. Longest relationship. My longest relationship

00:30:13.900 was a year and two months. A year and two months. Yes. And, um, I'm not sure if you want

00:30:19.900 to like hear this, but the reason why we ended things is cause, um, I'm not sure if we'll get

00:30:26.020 monetized, but I snuck out of my house when I was like 17 just to see him. And then that

00:30:34.100 was literally the same time. My French student from Nice, France was going to come over and sleep

00:30:41.560 in my house. But I was just like, no, I literally don't care. She can just come over and sleep

00:30:47.500 there without me knowing that I'm there. But my parents knew that I snuck out already and

00:30:54.260 I ended up doing tabs with this guy. And then, yeah, that basically just broke off the whole

00:31:02.220 entire relationship because yeah. Nice. Good times. Yeah. Good times. Good times. I had a good

00:31:08.540 trip, but the aftermath was not good. Okay. But that's a whole different story for later.

00:31:13.900 Sure. All right. Wait, so that's why you broke up with him? Because you did acid with him?

00:31:18.380 No, he broke up with me. Because you did acid? Yes. What the fuck? He like, he saw God and

00:31:24.740 like, he broke up with me. What about you? I'm married and my longest relationship was about

00:31:38.140 eight years. All right. Is that your current? No, I, we just got married in June. We've been

00:31:43.860 officially dating since last November. Wait. And so you guys have been together for just a year total?

00:31:50.120 Yeah. Like we've known each other for about like nine years. So we've been friends for a long time.

00:31:55.800 Oh, interesting. Okay. So your longest relationship, eight years. And were you married or no? No.

00:32:01.940 Okay. So this is your first marriage? Yes. Okay. From start of dating to marriage, how long were you guys

00:32:08.660 together? Um, we were kind of, I guess, unofficially dating since like, well, the November, 2023 is when

00:32:16.400 like we kind of reconnected. So I was just driving back and forth from NorCal to LA to see him. Okay.

00:32:23.440 We just weren't, you know, I guess I said, like I said, it's like unofficially dating more like I was

00:32:27.660 like chasing him. And you said you guys have been friends for a long time. Yeah. We used to work

00:32:32.200 together. The eight year relationship from what age to what age was the eight year relationship?

00:32:38.320 It's 24 till, um, I don't remember when we broke up. Yeah. 32? Yeah. Somewhere around there. Okay. And you

00:32:46.080 said you've known your current husband for nine years. Yeah. So it's been a while since I did math.

00:32:54.900 Hold on. We have a couple econ accounting people here. Maybe they can help me out. So would that be

00:33:00.200 five years into your eight year relationship? You met your now husband. Is that correct? Well,

00:33:08.100 I'm not saying anything happened, but you met him. I guess. Yeah. I think when did we meet?

00:33:15.920 Was he friends with your ex? Yeah. Okay. Here we go. I'll dig a bit. I'll dig a bit. I know where

00:33:22.760 I'm going. So, okay. Uh, they were friends. Actually, we all worked together before. Oh, you worked

00:33:28.040 together? Yeah. What, uh, what was the work? Uh, it was like, um, a restaurant kind of setting. Oh,

00:33:33.340 okay. Yeah. Got, you guys were like servers or? Um, kind of. I mean, cause it was like in a food

00:33:38.840 court sort of set. Like, okay. So it was a food establishment. Sure. Yeah. Um, so, okay. Y'all knew

00:33:46.040 each other and they were friends, but you were also friends with him too. Kind of. Like we didn't

00:33:51.700 really talk like when we worked cause he was actually, um, my manager. It's like, I just didn't

00:33:57.100 really talk to him. They were more friends and I was just kind of just working. Question for you.

00:34:02.660 Yeah. Was your husband biding his time? Oh, you mean for me? For you? No, no, no. He, um,

00:34:12.100 cause you know, like when we first started talking and then I told him at that, like a few months

00:34:16.220 in, like, Hey, I like you. And he actually turned me down. He had other priorities. He

00:34:21.040 didn't want a relationship. So when you were single, you, you try to date him, but he, okay.

00:34:26.140 Well, like, but he was dating somebody at the time you said, right? Oh, my husband, he was

00:34:30.880 dating someone like a year before, like I reconnected with him cause that, cause he was

00:34:35.300 in the Bay area and then he moved to LA in 2020. Okay. So I didn't see him again until

00:34:40.900 2023. I see. Gotcha. Okay. Well, uh, and you've been married for how long? A couple months.

00:34:47.720 A couple months. All right. And, uh, you guys planning to have kids or? Yes. Do you have

00:34:52.960 any kids? No. No kids. Okay. All right. What about you? I'm in a relationship. Okay. How

00:34:58.880 long, uh, have you been? Two weeks. Two weeks. All right. Longest relationship? No. Or what's

00:35:06.480 the longest? Oh, what's the longest one? Um, a month. One month. Yeah. Oh, I see. Okay. See

00:35:15.200 you. What? I was remembering the notes. There was somebody in here who said, oh yeah, no

00:35:20.420 relationship has lasted more than the month. Um, how many past relationships would you

00:35:25.120 say haven't lasted over a month? Because you say all your relationships. I haven't been

00:35:30.180 in many. Probably like, so this one's my third. So technically two. I see. Okay. Haven't lasted

00:35:37.940 over a month. And when you call them relationships, so these are like official boyfriend, girlfriend,

00:35:42.860 were there periods like before where it was more casual situationship or it was, you just

00:35:50.760 immediately, you meet somebody, we're boyfriend, girlfriend. Yeah. It was, it's like talking

00:35:55.180 and then immediate, like pretty quick. Yeah. Not really a situationship kind of like, oh, let's

00:36:00.660 date or exclusive two weeks. So listen, Bella, I want to, I have a challenge for you. Let's

00:36:09.100 make it to two months. Okay. I know. I'm really excited. Look, if it ends up two months, you

00:36:13.900 know, that's, uh, you know, two X, the longest relationship ever. So if you make it to two

00:36:20.180 months, uh, we'll actually give you a prize. We'll give you, who do I reach out to? Uh,

00:36:25.820 you reach just at whatever on Instagram. We will, um, what, what do we get her? I don't

00:36:32.500 know. We get, we, we get you a, uh, a coupon for, uh, I don't know, something for freezing

00:36:41.800 your eggs or something. I don't know. Um, anyways, uh, so, okay. Question though, you

00:36:51.160 say all your past relationships haven't lasted over a month. Why do you think that

00:36:54.180 is? Cause I was, well, my first one was when I was 15. It's like high school. I'm just

00:36:59.880 gonna, you know, immaturity probably. Um, yeah, just probably immaturity and then, um,

00:37:09.420 no bad blood with any of them. I feel like I like to be friends with the people. Okay.

00:37:17.720 Gotcha. All right, cool. What about you? Um, my longest relationship, well, I'm single

00:37:23.280 right now and my longest relationship was five years. Um, I actually just met a dude

00:37:30.960 last night that lives in LA and he's probably going to come pick me up from this podcast.

00:37:36.380 So we're going to hang out, see where that goes. Um, yeah. Longest relationship? Longest

00:37:42.880 was five years. Oh, five years. Yeah. And you've been single for? No, I've been single for about

00:37:48.520 four and a half. Four and a half. Yeah. Any kids? Yes. I have an 11 year old son. All right. Is

00:37:54.140 that from the five year relationship? It's from one of the five year relationships. Okay. There's

00:37:59.260 been a few. There's been not a few, but there's been two. Um, yeah. Got it. Okay, cool. Uh, how did

00:38:05.660 you meet this LA guy? Facebook dating. Boom. There you go. Rock and roll. Yeah. Okay, cool. Um,

00:38:13.160 let's see if there, no, that's every, everything. Uh, we have a chat coming through here from

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00:38:54.280 Boom. Thank you guys. Shop.whatever.com. If you want to get yourself a t-shirt during the

00:38:58.620 stream, we'll pull it up. All right. We're going to just jump right in guys. So we have a couple

00:39:04.040 different topics to talk about. We're going to keep it mostly dating related tonight, but,

00:39:08.420 uh, Shona here had a specific request to talk about some, a recent event. So why not? I'll

00:39:18.060 bite for a little bit, but we'll keep it mostly dating. Uh, Shona, you had written that, let's

00:39:27.280 say quite a few dating related topics, but, uh, you wanted to talk about, uh, Charlie Kirk.

00:39:36.620 I knew it. So we'll touch on it briefly. Uh, so you said that, uh, well, I'll just let

00:39:45.460 you put into your own words then. Yeah. So I think I have a lot of thoughts when it comes

00:39:50.560 to Charlie Kirk. Do you want me to just say everything I think? Uh, sure. I mean, is it

00:39:55.460 like a five minute monologue or a few minutes? Is that okay? A few minutes? No, no, no. You

00:39:59.540 can cut me off whenever. Feel free to cut me off whenever. Do try to condense it. Okay. If

00:40:03.400 you can, short and sweet. Okay. So first of all, I saw, I saw Charlie Kirk hater in the

00:40:08.000 title of the video. And I want to say, I think hater is a very crude way of defining my thoughts

00:40:12.780 on him. I think it's a lot more nuanced than that. I certainly did not celebrate his death.

00:40:16.800 Um, regarding the super chat I saw earlier, I think it was horrible. My stomach dropped

00:40:20.900 the day I saw and I feel for his family. I have empathy for his family, which is something

00:40:24.860 he actually didn't believe in. He believed empathy was a new age term, but overall, I'd say

00:40:29.040 that he promoted a lot of really dangerous and harmful agendas and rhetoric, um, throughout

00:40:34.540 his career. Really quick. What, what are those? I think one that standard stood out to me specifically

00:40:40.520 was the Islamophobic things he would say. Yeah. So he said, Islam is the knife that slit

00:40:45.580 the throat of America, which is just no context. He just, he tweeted that. Um, additionally, he

00:40:51.420 said in relation to Momdani running for NYC mayor, and you can have whatever thoughts you

00:40:55.680 want on Momdani. Like, I lean left, but some of the things he, he talks about, like, even

00:41:00.100 I, I have questions about that. But he said, in relation to him running, he said, Muslims,

00:41:04.720 they bombed, um, America on 9-11, and now you want a Muslim in office. Nothing to do with

00:41:10.380 his politics, just straight up Islamophobia. He calls Muslims conquerors, invaders. Mind

00:41:16.060 you, I mean, like, I respect Christianity in all religions. I don't think we should generalize

00:41:20.140 religions like that. But he said, he said that thing, those about them. When, mind you, Christians

00:41:25.360 have, in the past, like, the trail of tears, the treatment of indigenous people, Chattel

00:41:31.440 slavery justified by the Bible, the encomienda system, the, the crusades. Like, there's so

00:41:37.600 much that all religions have done that's harmful, and I don't think you can suddenly say things

00:41:41.280 like that about Islam. Sure. Uh, so, I mean, there's a lot there. Sorry, I have a lot of thoughts.

00:41:45.760 You've kind of shotgunned a whole bunch of points. It's, uh, some of these are not my

00:41:51.040 particular wheelhouse, and obviously, Charlie Kirk has, like, thousands of hours of content

00:41:55.740 online, and I'm not necessarily prepared to defend, like, every single thing he's ever

00:42:00.620 said, just because I would have to know the precise points. Really quick, though, just off

00:42:05.460 the top of my head, um, an immediate rebuttal to your point, uh, this idea that Christians

00:42:10.800 did crusades. Most of these crusades were actually in response to, uh, Muslim

00:42:15.320 conquest. You see, like, Muslim conquest in, like, Spain, for example, uh, reaching into

00:42:21.340 Europe, going to Vienna. So, most of these Christian, uh, conflicts, as it relates to

00:42:27.360 Islam and, uh, Muslims, were actually repelling invasions into Christian land, so Muslims did

00:42:34.280 conquest all the way up to Vienna. So, this idea that, you know, Muslims throughout all of

00:42:40.640 history have been a completely peaceable people is ridiculous. I don't think, well, you could

00:42:45.600 look at pretty much any group throughout history and say, no, no group has really been a peaceable

00:42:51.000 people. No group has. No group. Well. That would include, even, for example, Native Americans,

00:42:56.100 but, because you did mention the Trail of Tears, I would point out, though, that, uh, you know.

00:43:01.900 And the re-education of Native Americans. Well, okay, well, hold on. We're getting, we're getting

00:43:06.380 into a whole bunch of different wheelhouses here. Um, in any case, though, I think it's

00:43:11.280 valid to have specific criticisms of over things Charlie has said. Again, I'm not a,

00:43:18.160 I don't know what the right word is. I'm not like an encyclopedia of every single thing he

00:43:23.400 said. I'm not an encyclopedia, uh, of all the defenses of everything he said. Also, people

00:43:28.780 tend to mischaracterize his arguments, leaving out critical context. I just, I quoted, I quoted

00:43:33.220 what he said. Islam is the knife that slit the throat of America. And you don't have

00:43:36.640 to be an encyclopedia, but I'd love for you to tell me what you think of that statement

00:43:39.620 specifically. I, again, I don't know the specific context. That is just a tweet. Well, hold on.

00:43:45.000 So you, you do realize though, Charlie Kirk would be live streaming and he'd be speaking

00:43:50.460 for hours on end. So for you to just throw out a statement. This was standalone, right?

00:43:56.480 Standalone. Yeah. Like he didn't say this in the context of a long conversation. He tweeted

00:44:00.300 this. What, what did he say? Islam is the knife. Can we just,

00:44:03.220 pull it up, pull it up. Just pull it up. I'm not kidding. Then I could give my thing.

00:44:06.900 And he also tweeted the thing about Mamdani, like, oh, Muslims, they bombed, um, America

00:44:11.120 during 9-11. Now you want to vote a Muslim into office. Those were standalone tweets.

00:44:15.280 I would say that that's fallacious argument on, if that's what he said, I think that'd be

00:44:19.300 fallacious. Yeah, that's completely. But also my understanding is. Islamophobic. My understanding

00:44:24.580 would be that Charlie Kirk, as a Christian, he would want a Christian doctrine and values to

00:44:31.400 have influence in the way we govern the United States. Like a theocracy?

00:44:36.640 Well, I don't know if that was necessarily his prescription, but he would want the guiding

00:44:41.060 principles and values of Christianity. And there's nothing wrong with that. Like personally,

00:44:45.080 growing up around Catholic school, I think Christianity has many values and you don't

00:44:48.400 even have to specifically tie them to Christianity. Like just overall morals that should be incorporated

00:44:52.720 into the government. But I just, I can't, again, like it's fine that he's Christian and he promotes

00:44:57.520 those values. But you know what though, before it, look, I think it's fair to say that Charlie

00:45:01.680 Kirk has sat, has said things that you object to or that you might even, well, hold on, that

00:45:07.300 might even could be objectionable across the board. Absolutely. If you presented to me something

00:45:11.800 that Charlie Kirk said, I could be like, I disagree with that. So can you please tell me that you

00:45:15.820 disagree with him saying Islam is the knife that slit the throat of America and that.

00:45:20.180 So hold on. Is that what he, repeat what he said.

00:45:24.440 I've said it so many times. Islam is the knife that slit the throat of America.

00:45:29.620 In reference to 9-11. Like the context would be.

00:45:32.740 Not necessarily, just in reference to all his feelings about Muslims.

00:45:35.720 But is it in reference to 9-11? Wait, hold on. Do you deny that, uh, who, wasn't it like,

00:45:41.620 who were the, uh, hijackers?

00:45:43.540 I think Donald Trump is the knife that slit the throat of America.

00:45:46.800 Fair enough. Fair enough. I'm glad, I'm so glad we're on the same page about that.

00:45:50.260 Disagree on that.

00:45:51.280 You said fair enough though.

00:45:52.280 I'm saying fair enough, not in agreement with you.

00:45:56.840 Okay.

00:45:57.540 I'm saying fair enough, you can, fair enough, you can say that.

00:46:00.840 Okay. Yeah.

00:46:01.700 Don't, don't agree. Disavow, disagree.

00:46:04.720 Yeah.

00:46:04.960 When he said like, Islam is the knife that slits the throat of America, did he mean like

00:46:09.460 Islam or did he mean like ISIS and like the, you know, bad.

00:46:12.020 He said Islam.

00:46:12.680 He said Islam.

00:46:14.000 He did not.

00:46:14.860 I went on Twitter and I think.

00:46:16.940 Did you find it?

00:46:17.460 I found a picture. I can't 100% verify this, but it's a, a screen grab and it's pretty close

00:46:23.280 to what you're saying.

00:46:25.080 Yeah, we can, we can pull it up.

00:46:26.200 It is real by the way.

00:46:27.640 Is this the right, the right one?

00:46:30.300 Okay. Yeah. I paraphrased it.

00:46:31.360 I can't confirm that this was, I'm still looking for it.

00:46:33.760 Okay.

00:46:34.080 But again, like I mentioned a lot of things he said about Muslims.

00:46:38.220 Is the sword the left is using.

00:46:40.480 Okay. So you did misquote him.

00:46:42.460 You did. I do want you to acknowledge that.

00:46:43.980 Okay. I did not, I do not remember all the things he said word for word, but I mean, overall

00:46:48.620 he's just said a lot of harmful things about Islam.

00:46:51.600 Okay. Do you think.

00:46:53.000 He's also very xenophobic.

00:46:53.840 Just curious. Do you think that.

00:46:56.140 Okay.

00:46:56.900 You're, you're against like a theocracy, right?

00:46:59.400 A full on theocracy.

00:47:00.760 Like, so for example, would you be against Sharia law in this country?

00:47:04.080 Look, I think.

00:47:06.940 Well, no, answer the question.

00:47:08.760 It depends on, it would depend on how it's implemented.

00:47:12.220 What do you mean how it's implemented?

00:47:13.580 Listen, listen, listen. Can I expand on that?

00:47:14.980 I think there are countries that have Sharia law that don't treat women well.

00:47:17.980 For example, Afghanistan, I'm completely against the treatment of women in Afghanistan and certain

00:47:22.400 Sharia law. The same way I would be against like a government completely controlled by Christian

00:47:27.480 values, like not incorporated, but like a full on Christian theocracy.

00:47:31.800 I don't think religion should rule the government.

00:47:33.640 I think you can incorporate values of a religion into the way you lead a country.

00:47:37.040 But why, why can't you just answer the question?

00:47:39.460 What, repeat question.

00:47:40.760 Do you think that there should be Sharia law in the United States?

00:47:43.920 No, not necessarily, no.

00:47:45.420 But why, I guess, why the, why the need to like muddy the waters there?

00:47:50.180 Okay, well, I.

00:47:50.720 Because you're saying, so what if there was a manifestation of Sharia law that you personally

00:47:55.200 found acceptable?

00:47:58.640 Because I, I can agree with you, like there are, there are various Muslim majority countries

00:48:03.160 that.

00:48:03.800 That don't treat people well, sure, yeah.

00:48:05.700 Well, no, I was about to say that have varying degrees of, you know, liberties and freedoms

00:48:10.740 for their populace.

00:48:11.700 Some of them are less oppressive.

00:48:13.420 Some of them are more oppressive.

00:48:15.120 In my ideal world, I don't think religion is playing a role in government.

00:48:19.940 I found the actual quote, by the way.

00:48:21.800 Sure, we can pull it up.

00:48:22.880 It's a response to a video.

00:48:24.940 Oh, there we go.

00:48:25.840 See, that's kind of more what I said, right?

00:48:28.080 Or no, it's not, is it?

00:48:29.260 No, it's the same thing.

00:48:30.040 Yeah.

00:48:30.140 There's a clip.

00:48:34.860 Okay.

00:48:35.620 So.

00:48:36.960 Again, regardless of a clip, I, I don't think that's a very great statement to make.

00:48:40.560 I think, like you said, oh, Islam's not a fully peaceable religion or something like

00:48:44.780 that.

00:48:45.260 I think.

00:48:45.780 Well, I suppose this could apply to all religions.

00:48:48.020 Right.

00:48:48.080 I think the, I think the vast majority of Muslims are not for terrorism and not for ISIS and

00:48:55.160 not for 9-11.

00:48:56.160 That's not.

00:48:56.540 I can agree with that.

00:48:57.160 Like liberal Islam, which is like widely practiced today, is normal and acceptable and peaceful

00:49:02.460 and should not be subject to the things that he said about Islam.

00:49:06.220 That's what I think.

00:49:08.120 Okay.

00:49:08.560 I hope you can agree with that.

00:49:10.880 Agree with what specifically?

00:49:12.700 That like Islam as a religion is not inherently a terrorist.

00:49:15.580 But I'm a little bit confused.

00:49:16.740 Wouldn't you make a criticism if there were Christian nationalists who wanted to govern the

00:49:23.280 United States under a Christian doctrine?

00:49:25.520 Would you object to that?

00:49:26.420 I would completely object to that.

00:49:27.700 Would you think that that would be like potentially slitting the throats of liberty in America?

00:49:35.240 Yeah, sure.

00:49:36.220 So how would it be, then if that's your position, how could you possibly have an objection to

00:49:41.780 somebody saying, well, this other religion over here, that would be slitting the throats

00:49:46.860 of Americans if used by the left?

00:49:49.220 Because the left isn't even using Islam to slit the throat of America.

00:49:53.700 That doesn't even make sense.

00:49:55.020 No one's trying to incorporate Islam values into the government here.

00:49:58.260 Are they?

00:49:58.820 Please correct me if I'm wrong.

00:49:59.860 I mean, perhaps not at full scale, but like if you look at Dearborn, Michigan, for example,

00:50:05.460 it's like a completely Muslim majority area.

00:50:07.840 You have women walking around, and I don't know what your position on this is, but women

00:50:12.280 walking around in like full burqa, is it niqab, I think?

00:50:17.460 I'm not entirely sure.

00:50:18.140 You're the one that covers everything with your eyes.

00:50:19.720 Yeah, so I don't know how that is.

00:50:23.860 That's completely acceptable, by the way.

00:50:25.480 What's that?

00:50:26.000 For someone to wear that.

00:50:27.140 What's that?

00:50:27.660 That clothing.

00:50:28.580 You say it's unacceptable?

00:50:29.720 No, it's acceptable.

00:50:30.560 You think it's acceptable?

00:50:31.620 Of course, yeah.

00:50:32.340 Okay, I mean.

00:50:33.460 It's freedom of religion.

00:50:34.400 It's in the First Amendment, right?

00:50:36.520 Okay, sure.

00:50:37.340 I suppose.

00:50:38.620 What do you mean you suppose?

00:50:39.560 Yeah, people are free to do it.

00:50:42.760 Is it?

00:50:43.060 But would you like to see that being the status quo for the entirety of America?

00:50:46.740 But the entirety of America is not Muslim, so that would never be the status quo.

00:50:50.640 I know, but I'm just talking hypothetically.

00:50:52.800 Okay, if the whole of America was somehow Muslim and practicing Islam and chose to wear the niqab,

00:50:57.920 which is like a very far-stretched hypothetical, then yes, because we have the right to practice

00:51:03.320 whatever religion we believe in.

00:51:04.560 Question for you, though.

00:51:05.280 Let's say, for example, you realize that there's different jurisdictions, right?

00:51:09.520 So you have local jurisdictions where it's like the city level, then you have county,

00:51:13.880 then you have state.

00:51:15.560 Would you object to, assume there's a Muslim majority in a county, Michigan, for example.

00:51:23.200 And they said, you know what?

00:51:24.360 We're going to pass a law that requires women to wear the niqab.

00:51:27.440 I would disagree with that.

00:51:28.280 You would fight that?

00:51:29.720 What I'm advocating for is the freedom to practice your religion, practice your speech,

00:51:34.020 your beliefs, whatever that is.

00:51:35.240 So no one could enforce a certain belief or anything like that on you, right?

00:51:39.200 Okay.

00:51:39.660 So I understand that you have specific criticisms of things Charlie Kirk has said, but I do want to get back.

00:51:45.520 Can I also address another thing, his xenophobia?

00:51:47.260 He was very xenophobic, like against immigrants.

00:51:50.420 How so?

00:51:51.660 Okay, so there's this reporter who used to...

00:51:54.000 Wait, really quick, can you define xenophobia?

00:51:57.640 Discrimination against immigrants?

00:51:59.740 Prejudice against immigrants?

00:52:00.700 So if you were, if just by virtue of being...

00:52:04.780 Foreigners, aliens, whatever you want to use.

00:52:06.020 Let's say you, as an American, you have a anti-illegal immigration stance.

00:52:11.340 Would that make you xenophobic?

00:52:13.300 No, not necessarily.

00:52:14.800 Not necessarily.

00:52:15.520 And I want to get into that.

00:52:16.900 But what if you point to, for example, like potential negative outcomes of illegal immigration?

00:52:22.180 Is that xenophobic?

00:52:23.900 No, because I'm, I like, I recognize the potential negative effects of illegal immigration, which is why I kind of, I'm more moderate when it comes to the topic of immigration.

00:52:32.820 But that still doesn't make me xenophobic.

00:52:34.600 What specifically has Charlie Kirk said that's xenophobic?

00:52:37.920 Yeah, so Mehdi Hassan, he was reporting at MSNBC, and I forgot what he was reporting about.

00:52:42.540 But out of context, Charlie Kirk, he heard his like British accent, and he said, someone send this guy to wherever he came from.

00:52:49.100 Like send him back, deport him for what he was saying, like his take that he disagreed with.

00:52:52.980 And mind you, this guy, Mehdi Hassan, he's an American citizen, completely naturalized.

00:52:57.560 He also, he said something about, if you criticize Israel, I won't talk too much about that necessarily if it's not allowed, but you should be deported.

00:53:06.540 So he kind of had like this stance of like, oh, you say something I disagree with, get out of this country.

00:53:12.260 Like that's just, that seems kind of a little bit xenophobic to me.

00:53:16.540 Yeah, sure.

00:53:16.980 So, I mean, what I ultimately want to do, though, I'm sure you can list.

00:53:21.060 So many things.

00:53:21.780 I'm sure you can list a dozen things.

00:53:22.980 And I'm not even cherry picking them, right?

00:53:23.500 But hold on, that's fine, that's fine.

00:53:24.540 I just hear this all, and it just frustrates me.

00:53:26.060 That's totally fine.

00:53:26.240 And look, myself, I could probably point to things that Charlie Kirk has said that I would be like, you know, I disagree with that, or I have disagreement on policy, or that specific thing he said.

00:53:36.420 You know, wording, not great, wrong, whatever.

00:53:41.180 I want to bring it back to the central point here, though, is that.

00:53:44.160 Radical statements.

00:53:44.720 You're saying that he said these bad things.

00:53:46.980 Radical statements.

00:53:49.240 Extreme, vulgar, kind of dangerous radical statements.

00:53:51.780 Dangerous.

00:53:51.860 Also the stuff about gun violence.

00:53:53.320 Oh, my gosh.

00:53:53.600 Oh, my God.

00:53:53.940 Well, okay.

00:53:54.500 Again, I don't want to get into the weeds with you.

00:53:56.920 I don't want to, because then we're just going to have, like, a debate on all his political takes.

00:54:02.000 We're going to talk about gun control.

00:54:03.140 My dream date.

00:54:03.980 We're going to talk about everything, right?

00:54:05.600 I know.

00:54:07.320 He doesn't want to talk about it.

00:54:08.660 It's okay.

00:54:09.380 Well, but what I did want to talk about, the central point here would be, is it sounds like you're about to make a justification for assassination.

00:54:18.060 No.

00:54:18.660 Never.

00:54:19.480 No one should ever be assassinated for their speech, no matter how crazy and harmful it is.

00:54:24.080 But where's the but?

00:54:24.880 But is there a but?

00:54:27.600 Well, there's a period at the end of that sentence.

00:54:30.400 You know what?

00:54:30.680 Sure, I can add a but, though.

00:54:31.600 I don't think he could be separated from the agendas he chose to promote.

00:54:36.100 With that said, I still don't think he should be killed.

00:54:38.380 And, again, like, it's horrifying and disgusting.

00:54:40.480 And I condemn it.

00:54:41.580 And it's really harmful to democracy for someone to be killed for the things they say, no matter how outlandish.

00:54:47.320 You say he ultimately contributed to the dangerous political environment that led to his demise.

00:54:51.560 I don't think he can be separated from the systems he spent his time promoting.

00:54:56.280 Like, for example, I think if Charlie Kirk was – let's say you had a son.

00:55:00.260 Wait, I don't even understand this logic.

00:55:02.020 So, for example, if anybody who ever votes for a politician, like, how can you ever be separated from the system that you promoted through your vote and through your own agency?

00:55:15.440 What I'm saying that about Charlie Kirk specifically –

00:55:17.740 Well, question.

00:55:18.360 If somebody voted for Donald Trump and they were assassinated or they believe in, like, you know, they're, like, really pro-Second Amendment, would you be like, well, you contributed?

00:55:27.540 You – we can't separate you from that system because you are pro-Second Amendment.

00:55:31.920 Well, I mean, it's – again, it's not supposed to be a justification.

00:55:37.060 It's supposed to be –

00:55:37.580 Well, it's a bit of –

00:55:38.200 You're doing a bit of –

00:55:38.760 A nuanced look at –

00:55:39.540 You're doing a bit of hand-waving.

00:55:40.920 Also, with Charlie Kirk, it's different than voting because he's, like – he was funded by billionaires.

00:55:45.680 He was very influential.

00:55:47.240 He had, like, all these, like, viral clips and moments.

00:55:50.060 So, he should be assassinated?

00:55:51.600 No.

00:55:51.980 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:55:52.920 So, you're trying to, like, put words in my mouth right now.

00:55:54.720 You've just made the argument, like, these Democrats, by the way, extremely –

00:55:58.340 Oh, these Democrats.

00:55:59.400 These Democrats.

00:56:00.460 Extremely bought out by major corporations, Kamala, massive, massive contributions from billionaire donors.

00:56:08.420 I don't believe in that.

00:56:09.000 I don't believe in that.

00:56:10.240 I don't believe in billionaires playing a huge role in politics.

00:56:14.640 When you say you don't believe in that, you're saying you don't believe what I said to be true or you don't believe that billionaires should be contributing politically?

00:56:22.560 I don't think they should be, like, pouring all their money into these media mouthpieces.

00:56:26.520 That's a separate conversation, though.

00:56:27.700 Okay.

00:56:28.320 But that's what I believe.

00:56:29.120 I don't – I just don't think they should be, like, funding what –

00:56:31.660 Right.

00:56:31.920 But then you would have to argue that, well, okay, because Kamala raised billions of dollars –

00:56:36.240 I don't love Kamala, by the way.

00:56:37.000 From donors.

00:56:37.560 She's not my –

00:56:38.800 But she should – I don't think she should be assassinated for it, but your logic would seem to –

00:56:43.800 Charlie Kirk should not have been assassinated.

00:56:45.580 It seems to follow that she's contributed to the system of violence.

00:56:49.920 And what I wanted to say about that statement in the context of Charlie Kirk is that he constantly kind of, like, excused and brushed over gun violence every year.

00:56:58.260 He's like, oh, it's collateral.

00:56:59.500 Oh, it's just, like, car accident deaths every year.

00:57:01.820 That's the consequence of us getting to drive a car.

00:57:04.580 Yeah.

00:57:04.760 And I think if it was – if you had a son who was in first grade and that son was the victim of gun violence, Charlie Kirk would not bat an eye in the direction or care about that at all.

00:57:15.700 What do you mean not care about it?

00:57:16.600 Because it was just collateral to him.

00:57:17.720 Gun violence was just collateral to him.

00:57:19.080 Well, I think Charlie Kirk would absolutely be broken if one of his children was killed by gun violence.

00:57:26.180 Yeah, but when it's other people's children, like, when it's the people – there was another school shooting the same day Charlie Kirk died.

00:57:32.580 If he had, like, lived past that, he would have been like, oh, it's just collateral.

00:57:35.900 It's just so we can bear arms.

00:57:37.760 It's just, like, the consequence of that.

00:57:39.700 I think you can still want to maintain your constitutional rights, specifically the Second Amendment, and also abhor unjustified killings, violence, school shootings.

00:57:50.840 But at the expense of how many lives?

00:57:52.620 I think these two things – but believing in the Second Amendment and wanting to uphold the Second Amendment and giving people access to, you know, robust ability to protect themselves and to prevent a tyrannical government.

00:58:03.420 Without even the consideration of any sort of gun control.

00:58:05.680 Let me just finish my point.

00:58:07.020 I think these two positions are not contradictory.

00:58:09.860 So you can be like, hey, we have a major issue in our country.

00:58:13.600 Gun violence of any kind is – we shouldn't have any.

00:58:17.280 But we should also be able to own firearms.

00:58:20.160 Right, but then if you think that, if you are so horrified by gun violence but you want to protect your Second Amendment right, then shouldn't you believe in some sort of gun control, some sort of checks and measures?

00:58:29.960 There are.

00:58:30.920 Not enough, clearly.

00:58:32.180 There are.

00:58:32.440 If they're getting into the hands of people like –

00:58:34.240 Sure.

00:58:34.600 Well, I mean, I can talk about my own experience.

00:58:36.640 For example, if you go to a gun shop here in the United States or, well, sorry, in California, the first thing you have to do is you have to get a safety certificate.

00:58:45.840 It's like a 25 – to be fair, it's – you can – I studied for it.

00:58:51.420 I passed it the first time.

00:58:53.960 It's pretty simple.

00:58:55.700 And then there's a –

00:58:56.220 Pretty simple, right?

00:58:57.360 Anyone could –

00:58:58.120 Well, then – but if you make it too complicated – because, for example, there's like questions on there.

00:59:03.820 I got 23 out of 25 questions correct.

00:59:06.880 Two of them were related to like if you're a firearms dealer or something about being a firearms dealer, which like I'll never need to know.

00:59:17.880 And then there was something about like what age do you need to be to be able to buy like a specific type of gun.

00:59:25.160 And I'm like I'm well above the age for that to ever be relevant to me.

00:59:29.080 So it's like whatever.

00:59:30.300 I just want increased background checks and things like that to make sure that if you want to uphold your Second Amendment right as like an ethical, normal person who is law-abiding, that you can get that gun.

00:59:39.840 But then it can't get into the hands of people who are not ethical and law-abiding.

00:59:42.740 I just want increased measures for that.

00:59:43.520 Also, there's a 10-day – at least in California, 10-day cooling-off period.

00:59:46.800 So you go to a gun shop.

00:59:48.280 First, you have to pass the test.

00:59:50.600 You have to get the background check.

00:59:51.940 Make sure you don't – there's nothing that's going to come up on that.

00:59:54.560 And then you have to wait 10 days before to get the firearm.

00:59:57.980 Different jurisdictions.

00:59:59.080 Different states have different laws.

01:00:01.520 But I mean I guess my question I would ask you is even if there's an outright – and practically speaking, I think it's just going to really never happen.

01:00:13.060 Do you think if we were to actually fully outlaw guns – like would that be your hope to fully outlaw guns?

01:00:18.840 That's not necessarily my take because, again, I don't think you can start like compromising on amendments.

01:00:23.060 I just want like increased measures to where, again, people like you can get guns but people like school shooters can't.

01:00:30.620 Just increase safety and hopefully less gun violence as a result of that because like if you look at other countries –

01:00:36.080 So what checks would you – what things would you want to be in place to prevent someone from purchasing a firearm?

01:00:41.920 Because I mean just to let you know like a lot of these people who do commit these abhorrent, disgusting acts,

01:00:50.380 most of them don't have a criminal history.

01:00:53.620 Most of them don't have any negative check mark that could be discovered on a background check.

01:00:58.820 Do they have mental health issues perchance?

01:01:01.180 Well, I do believe –

01:01:02.420 I think they would.

01:01:03.520 I'm not an expert on this topic but I do believe if you have some history like of being committed to a psych ward –

01:01:09.700 Then you shouldn't, right?

01:01:11.280 Well, my understanding is if you have been committed to a psych ward, I do believe –

01:01:16.900 Are you pointing at her?

01:01:17.520 No, well, I'm pointing in this general direction.

01:01:20.220 I do believe that could preclude you from getting a firearm.

01:01:23.360 Now, again –

01:01:23.880 Should.

01:01:24.160 I'm not – well, I think it does.

01:01:26.300 So the law – but again, this isn't my wheelhouse so I don't know like in each state what the laws are on this specific thing.

01:01:33.220 Me neither, honestly.

01:01:33.940 But this idea that it's just like, you know what, one day you can just go to a gun shop and they just hand you a gun.

01:01:41.200 In a lot of states, it's not the case.

01:01:43.260 I don't know the details in every single state.

01:01:45.120 In any case though, do you think that if we were to get rid of guns entirely in this country, do you think that that would really solve any of the problems?

01:01:55.300 Okay.

01:01:55.700 I mean if you were to suddenly say you can't buy a gun, like there's already so many guns in circulation that that wouldn't really do much.

01:02:00.940 Like – yeah, yeah.

01:02:01.900 So check this out.

01:02:02.560 So somebody who owns guns – like would you be in favor of the government rounding up everybody's guns?

01:02:10.680 Like by force, by the police?

01:02:12.040 If like in a magical world, all guns in this country –

01:02:14.420 In a real world.

01:02:15.420 Okay.

01:02:15.660 Well, this isn't really possible which is why I'm kind of –

01:02:17.460 Well, Australia did it for example.

01:02:19.540 But would the government be effectively able to do that with the amount of guns that are in circulation?

01:02:23.540 I don't really think so.

01:02:24.520 Let's say they could effectively do it.

01:02:26.780 Okay.

01:02:27.060 So that was – every single gun was in the government's possession right now.

01:02:30.180 Right?

01:02:30.480 Well, not necessarily.

01:02:31.440 People would obviously have issues with this and probably some people would actually like have gunfights with the police trying to confiscate their guns.

01:02:40.160 But you do agree it's possible.

01:02:43.160 Like it would be plausible for a government to send out its – even its army or law enforcement officers to confiscate guns.

01:02:51.600 Like they could do this.

01:02:52.560 But again, I don't believe in compromising like constitutional amendments.

01:02:55.740 I think I take a lot of issue with that.

01:02:57.360 Even though like personally when I think about the amendments, the Second Amendment, I think it's just like – it's just like – it's just frustrating to me.

01:03:04.320 Well, hold on.

01:03:04.820 It's like, oh, you want to bear your gun so –

01:03:06.820 Wait, your refusal to get rid of the Second Amendment is – we can't separate that from the system that you've promoted.

01:03:13.500 That's really harmful rhetoric.

01:03:15.540 And you know what?

01:03:16.640 Innocent children's lives, because of your refusal to just do away with the Second Amendment, it's on your hands.

01:03:24.040 Innocent children's – you won't get rid of it.

01:03:26.160 But again, I can have the take of believing in increased gun control measures without believing in getting rid of the Second Amendment because I'm trying to respect Republican values of wanting to uphold the Second Amendment while wanting to reduce the amount of gun deaths that happen each year.

01:03:40.820 I love guns.

01:03:41.740 Thank you for sharing.

01:03:42.280 Me too.

01:03:43.340 Great.

01:03:44.280 Would you love them if they killed someone you loved and cared about?

01:03:47.540 I've actually gone through that before, but I think it's the person who kills it.

01:03:51.980 It's not the gun.

01:03:53.200 It's not the gun that kills a person in a person.

01:03:55.400 It's not the gun with a deadly bullet, and that's designed for murder.

01:03:58.280 You can kill someone with a bat.

01:04:00.260 It's the person that's using that gun with their mental illness or whatever it is causing it.

01:04:05.880 But the whole point of the weapon is that it's designed for death.

01:04:09.520 Right.

01:04:10.140 Because of the person pulling the trigger.

01:04:13.560 Whoa.

01:04:14.920 Well, so really quick, though.

01:04:16.740 Can I use the bathroom again?

01:04:19.920 I don't need to add.

01:04:22.080 It's okay.

01:04:22.520 Yeah, go that way.

01:04:24.360 Here.

01:04:24.860 We won't linger too long on the gun thing really quick, but I guess we're talking about policy

01:04:30.980 here.

01:04:31.500 Putting that aside, practically speaking.

01:04:33.680 But can I just say one more thought on that?

01:04:34.920 I just want some-

01:04:35.460 What?

01:04:35.620 No, hold on.

01:04:36.080 Let me finish.

01:04:36.500 Really?

01:04:36.660 Like one sentence?

01:04:37.480 No, no, no.

01:04:39.500 Whoa.

01:04:40.640 No, no, no.

01:04:41.020 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:04:42.180 Stop, stop, stop.

01:04:43.900 This way, this way.

01:04:44.740 We're good.

01:04:45.260 We're good to go.

01:04:47.200 We told you before the show.

01:04:48.820 It's okay.

01:04:49.280 We just don't want you banging into the cameras and stuff.

01:04:52.080 Yeah, sorry.

01:04:52.680 And tripping over wires.

01:04:54.000 It's okay.

01:04:54.420 It's okay.

01:04:55.920 Okay, so my question is-

01:05:00.540 Can I say one thing?

01:05:03.020 No, hold on, hold on.

01:05:04.360 My turn.

01:05:05.280 Okay.

01:05:06.440 My turn.

01:05:07.060 Go ahead.

01:05:11.140 We've outlawed a variety of drugs in this country.

01:05:15.500 Most hard drugs are completely outlawed.

01:05:17.800 There's steep punishments for distributing them, steep punishments for owning them.

01:05:26.360 You would agree, though, that despite robust laws, complete, not just, oh, you can go to

01:05:32.440 the doctor and get a prescription for meth and fentanyl.

01:05:34.620 No.

01:05:36.500 It's completely outlawed.

01:05:37.800 It's criminalized.

01:05:39.140 You would agree that people can still-

01:05:41.220 It's prevalent.

01:05:41.920 Obtain-

01:05:42.800 Completely.

01:05:43.520 These drugs.

01:05:44.540 And the vast majority of the time, despite it potentially landing you in prison or jail,

01:05:49.620 people who are drug addicts quite easily possess drugs and hold onto them for periods of time

01:05:58.960 and they never get caught and they consume the drugs.

01:06:04.740 Yeah, and I think that's the really complicated part about controlling drugs and controlling

01:06:08.860 guns.

01:06:09.340 They're so widely circulated.

01:06:11.020 But my question then is, even if we had an outright complete gun ban, my argument-

01:06:19.100 Which I don't believe in, but right.

01:06:20.360 But even if we did, and practically speaking, oh, I lost my guns in a boating trip.

01:06:27.240 Like people, oh, the police come to try to take your guns, sorry, I lost all of them.

01:06:31.460 People aren't going to relinquish their guns.

01:06:34.600 Which is why that's not a good solution.

01:06:36.740 Right, and it just-

01:06:37.900 I wish I had a very clear solution.

01:06:40.000 It's a very complicated-

01:06:40.960 Hold on, right, right, right.

01:06:41.720 But my position is, even if we were to implement everything that you say-

01:06:47.120 Which I didn't say.

01:06:47.720 No, even not just what you say.

01:06:49.100 Sorry, even if we implement things well beyond what you're willing to do, as it relates to

01:06:53.620 gun control, if we were to outright ban guns, how would this prevent people?

01:06:58.900 Like you could make it death penalty.

01:07:02.720 You own a gun, you get the death penalty.

01:07:04.900 That's how severe you could make the crime of owning a firearm.

01:07:09.760 How would this ever stop somebody from getting a gun if they were sick enough in the head and

01:07:16.360 motivated enough to get a gun?

01:07:17.880 We know that people are motivated enough to get drugs.

01:07:21.680 Trust me, if somebody wants to do a disgusting act, they have already abandoned humanity.

01:07:28.860 They've already abandoned decency.

01:07:32.640 It's gone.

01:07:34.260 And so this idea that-

01:07:36.320 And by the way, a lot of these times, sometimes we apprehend the shooters.

01:07:39.600 Sometimes they unalive themselves after they've committed these horrific acts.

01:07:43.620 Or, you know, there's somebody who takes them out.

01:07:46.920 They're prepared to die when they commit these crimes.

01:07:50.280 So why would, even if it was that extreme, you get the death penalty if you own a gun.

01:07:55.920 Why would that stop somebody who's prepared to die anyways and who's sick in the head?

01:08:00.360 Why would it stop someone in countries where there are not the same rates of gun violence

01:08:04.260 as America?

01:08:04.980 Like, for example, if you look at-

01:08:06.460 Okay, sorry, that was like a very wordy sentence.

01:08:08.280 But like other countries where gun death rates are not the same as America, there's sick

01:08:12.340 people everywhere.

01:08:13.200 There's sick people in like, say, the UK, for example.

01:08:15.060 The UK does not have the same rate of gun deaths and they have stricter gun control, right?

01:08:19.200 So like, what would stop the sick people in the UK?

01:08:21.180 It's just like, I mean, they-

01:08:23.480 If somebody is motivated enough in the UK or Australia, for example, where guns are outlawed-

01:08:29.020 Then they'll do that, right?

01:08:29.680 You think people can't access guns illegally?

01:08:32.360 They can, but I'm just-

01:08:33.240 Sure, it makes it harder, but you're not even in favor of an outlaw of gun death.

01:08:36.300 But they're not looking at the same rates of gun deaths as the US is.

01:08:39.000 They're not looking at the same rate of school shootings and all that.

01:08:41.520 Sure, I suppose that makes sense.

01:08:43.420 But my point would be, is that this most recent assassination, you think he wouldn't, like

01:08:51.160 even he wouldn't be able to get a gun?

01:08:55.980 I mean, I think that this kind of thing is more characteristic of America than it could

01:09:02.380 be of other countries.

01:09:03.280 And I think, I just think Charlie, like, again, this would happen to countless people throughout

01:09:08.160 history, gun deaths, gun violence, school shootings, Charlie Kirk, he didn't really do anything

01:09:13.340 to advocate against that, which is all I believe in, advocating for some kind of solution.

01:09:17.680 I don't know the exact solution to cause less gun deaths from happening each year.

01:09:20.960 So is your position, people who are pro-Second Amendment are more deserving of being killed

01:09:26.500 because of their-

01:09:27.800 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:09:29.320 Definitely not.

01:09:30.040 No one is deserving of being killed.

01:09:31.460 I don't understand the criticism then.

01:09:34.780 Of Charlie Kirk?

01:09:35.720 If it's just like, well, he was pro-Second Amendment.

01:09:40.700 What?

01:09:41.280 Okay.

01:09:42.140 It's not that he was pro-Second Amendment.

01:09:43.740 It's that he didn't really advocate against, like, the school shootings and everything that

01:09:48.620 would happen each year.

01:09:49.360 He just kind of said, oh, it's just collateral.

01:09:50.960 And I think writing it off as just collateral damage each year and, like, drawing, like,

01:09:56.500 an equivalent to, like, car deaths, kind of, I think that was kind of dismissive and

01:10:00.500 invalidating.

01:10:01.300 But by no means does that justify him dying.

01:10:03.280 Again, I know you're trying to, like, you want me to say that, but again, I don't celebrate

01:10:08.340 Charlie Kirk's death at all.

01:10:09.480 What do you think about other people who celebrate his death?

01:10:12.180 Justifying?

01:10:12.600 I think that's disgusting.

01:10:13.760 And I think that-

01:10:14.700 Like, do you get it?

01:10:15.340 You can't be against gun violence and then celebrate certain gun deaths.

01:10:18.360 I think it's disgusting.

01:10:19.360 I'm just curious, anybody else?

01:10:23.920 Me and her have had quite a bit in the back of work.

01:10:25.660 Anybody else want to weigh in?

01:10:26.700 Do you have any thoughts?

01:10:28.100 Feedback?

01:10:30.440 Yeah, any thoughts?

01:10:31.280 Do you have any thoughts?

01:10:32.440 Any thoughts?

01:10:35.200 No?

01:10:36.020 I-

01:10:36.860 Go ahead, go ahead.

01:10:37.580 It looks like you're about to say-

01:10:38.480 No, I really wasn't.

01:10:40.380 I-

01:10:40.700 Oh, okay.

01:10:41.080 Gun violence is never justified.

01:10:43.560 It's really, like-

01:10:44.360 Okay.

01:10:44.780 Yeah, I agree.

01:10:46.680 Is anybody, like, think it was justified?

01:10:49.340 He was justified that he was assassinated.

01:10:50.180 I feel like a lot of people-

01:10:51.220 I don't think he was justified, he was assassinated.

01:10:54.140 Oh.

01:10:54.440 Get to the mic.

01:10:55.140 I don't think he was justified, he was assassinated.

01:10:59.440 Assassinated.

01:11:00.080 Wait, hold on.

01:11:01.120 One sec, I gotta let-

01:11:02.020 I apologize, guys.

01:11:03.260 I gotta let some chats come through.

01:11:04.820 Yo, Pasty, sorry for the delay.

01:11:06.040 Pasty, George, do you owe me $200?

01:11:08.980 In short, CK was a puppet who denied the genocide going on in Gaza.

01:11:14.040 True.

01:11:14.280 Doesn't anyone realize that Israel owns and controls almost everything in the world?

01:11:19.280 Why are they still getting USA funding?

01:11:22.000 It's a good question.

01:11:22.580 They literally control the fucking ocean at this point.

01:11:25.040 Oh, yeah.

01:11:25.280 Are you talking about Greta Thunberg?

01:11:26.960 She was-

01:11:27.780 She was abducted?

01:11:29.140 She was tortured.

01:11:30.360 Do you know what happened?

01:11:30.820 Oh, my God.

01:11:31.560 Greta Thun-

01:11:32.180 She was not tortured.

01:11:33.400 She was, like, wrapped in the-

01:11:35.280 Hold on, one sec.

01:11:35.820 It's really black.

01:11:36.820 Donated $200.

01:11:37.960 Oh, my God.

01:11:38.880 She's so performative.

01:11:40.040 Mexican-American marine, Kirk's death ain't American.

01:11:42.100 She cares about human life.

01:11:42.980 Deport illegals, bear arms, fuck gingerly, Carly's lost, make it great again.

01:11:49.520 I'm a GI Bill student making college un-woke again.

01:11:53.460 Fuck yeah, America, saluting face emoji.

01:11:57.160 That's so corny.

01:11:58.360 There's a conspiracy theory about his death.

01:12:00.940 Have you heard about it?

01:12:01.740 I haven't heard about it yet.

01:12:03.400 There's a bunch.

01:12:04.880 There's a bunch.

01:12:05.340 What's the main one, though?

01:12:06.580 Pastor George donated $200.

01:12:09.000 Share one.

01:12:09.900 You seem to see the truth and not what everyone else eats up without critical thought.

01:12:14.980 A lot of people are acting like indoctrinated feminists for CK and not really looking at the evidence.

01:12:20.980 All right.

01:12:21.400 I'll take that compliment.

01:12:22.520 I do try and see-

01:12:22.800 Everybody, look, people have different opinions on this.

01:12:25.100 Pasty, by the way, Pasty, I sent you a DM on Discord.

01:12:27.520 What the fuck?

01:12:28.380 Respond to me, dude.

01:12:29.260 200 bucks, wow.

01:12:29.860 We're going to set you up with something.

01:12:31.360 I know.

01:12:31.580 There's some chats coming through.

01:12:33.880 I'm going to have you read them, okay?

01:12:36.720 So you're just going to read them?

01:12:38.020 As they pop up?

01:12:39.740 Hold on.

01:12:40.980 Yeah.

01:12:41.980 Read this.

01:12:42.840 I don't know if I want to read them.

01:12:44.160 Okay.

01:12:44.880 Shona, can you read them?

01:12:46.300 Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.

01:12:50.300 Zero people from Gaza should be allowed to come to America, period.

01:12:57.680 This is what I found on X.

01:12:59.120 All right.

01:12:59.620 Pasty, George coming in here with the-

01:13:01.960 Zero people from Gaza should be allowed to come to the U.S. is very, like, that's not

01:13:06.000 nice.

01:13:06.120 Can you read this one?

01:13:07.840 Here's more.

01:13:08.620 Three.

01:13:09.160 No, Israel is not starving Gazans.

01:13:11.900 They are.

01:13:12.820 The deaths of women and children in Gaza are the fault of Hamas, not Israel.

01:13:17.140 There's more.

01:13:17.660 Thank you, George.

01:13:18.460 Thank you.

01:13:19.540 He's doing my work for me.

01:13:21.600 There's another one coming here.

01:13:25.280 He said-

01:13:25.980 All right.

01:13:26.340 Pasty, George is on.

01:13:27.660 He's on a roll there with some of the chats, man.

01:13:29.880 George, oh my gosh.

01:13:31.120 Just like the deaths in Japan during World War II were the fault of Japan, not America,

01:13:34.900 when a government engages in unprovoked murderous aggression, they are to blame for everything

01:13:39.560 that results.

01:13:40.500 Okay.

01:13:40.760 George is on the right side of history.

01:13:42.240 Okay.

01:13:42.820 There you go.

01:13:42.960 Charlie Kirk wasn't.

01:13:45.880 R.I.P.

01:13:46.480 Charlie Kirk.

01:13:47.520 Is it per?

01:13:48.100 Yeah, R.I.P., but his rhetoric sucks.

01:13:52.080 Do you think violence-

01:13:53.440 I disagree.

01:13:54.420 Can ever be justified to achieve political aims?

01:13:59.620 I mean-

01:14:00.140 Are we talking about the death penalty?

01:14:01.880 No, no.

01:14:02.980 Then, no.

01:14:05.300 Okay.

01:14:05.900 No.

01:14:06.060 We have another one, if you can read this one.

01:14:09.080 Ah, yes.

01:14:10.100 Chair one wears a cross, is Hindu, and wants to defend Islam, even though a lot of the Quran

01:14:15.760 calls for the unaliving of Christians and butterfly, and tries to justify by misquoting

01:14:21.940 Charlie.

01:14:22.980 What a clown.

01:14:24.160 Oh my gosh.

01:14:24.920 I can't-

01:14:25.420 How could I, as someone who is not Islam, defend another religion that has people who

01:14:30.280 are not terrorists?

01:14:31.580 A Hindu defending Islam will wearing a cross?

01:14:33.560 Peculiar.

01:14:33.960 Like I said, I have a multicultural perspective, guys.

01:14:38.220 It's a multicultural.

01:14:38.720 I don't think you need to be a certain religion to defend a certain religion.

01:14:41.060 Read this one.

01:14:41.860 The UK gave up their guns, and now they're subjugating people under, essentially-

01:14:46.040 They're not under Muslim rule.

01:14:47.020 That's ridiculous.

01:14:47.880 Crazy how that works.

01:14:49.900 Okay.

01:14:50.360 Again, they're not under Muslim rule.

01:14:51.860 You need to read the news properly.

01:14:55.940 That's crazy.

01:14:56.560 I can take off the cross, though, if it's bothering people.

01:15:02.700 Do you think-

01:15:03.860 Do you think I'm unreasonable with what I'm saying?

01:15:06.940 Like, you can disagree with me, but-

01:15:07.780 I disagree with you.

01:15:08.700 I think you're being pretty fair.

01:15:10.120 I'm trying to be, yeah.

01:15:11.080 I don't think you're being bad faith or anything like that.

01:15:15.040 We have this one, if you can read.

01:15:18.160 Criminals won't give up their guns.

01:15:19.900 Only the good Americans would give up their guns.

01:15:24.220 Read the rest.

01:15:25.060 Charlie Kirk was a true patriot and American.

01:15:28.580 I have a question for you.

01:15:29.900 Do you think the one that came in previously about the UK, that UK gave up their guns and

01:15:36.840 their, you know, subjugated people-

01:15:39.020 I don't know the full history of gun law in the UK.

01:15:41.320 They don't really have freedom of speech in the UK.

01:15:43.720 I don't know about that.

01:15:45.040 Yeah, you can just, like, tweet something, and it can be-

01:15:48.040 You'll get arrested for, like, having an opinion, basically.

01:15:52.660 I don't know if that's necessarily true.

01:15:54.280 I've been to the UK plenty of times.

01:15:56.140 My dad's British.

01:15:56.820 I don't think he's ever faced any kind of-

01:15:59.020 I mean, not even him, but, like, that's not something that happens in the UK.

01:16:01.860 It's pretty democratic there.

01:16:02.900 The entailment there would be every single person must be prosecuted of a sort of anti-free

01:16:08.200 speech crime in order-

01:16:09.680 Like, your argument is, well, my dad's from the UK.

01:16:12.500 He's never been arrested.

01:16:13.420 Okay, no, no.

01:16:13.840 Again, I'm not trying to generalize it, like, specifically talk about him.

01:16:17.120 I don't believe it's the case that you can't say what you believe in in the UK.

01:16:20.000 Anyway, I don't believe that's true.

01:16:23.740 Could I put my two cents in?

01:16:25.420 Of course, yes.

01:16:25.740 About the UK?

01:16:26.780 Didn't they recently ban porn?

01:16:31.960 Oh, did they?

01:16:32.580 There was some-

01:16:33.960 No, it's not outright bans, but I think there's some age-

01:16:36.480 You have to be over a certain age to access it, but there's a whole bunch of workarounds

01:16:40.620 or some shit.

01:16:41.060 But, as far as it goes to the UK, do you think it would be racist for England to not

01:16:48.120 want robust immigration to their country?

01:16:53.480 Absolutely not.

01:16:55.060 Well, thank you, but-

01:16:57.000 Sorry.

01:16:57.280 I know you were talking to them, but I was giving my two cents.

01:16:59.880 No, that's fine.

01:16:59.940 That's fine.

01:17:00.280 When you say robust immigration, do you mean legal immigration?

01:17:03.180 Would it be racist?

01:17:03.760 It could be both.

01:17:04.460 But let's say-

01:17:05.140 How about this?

01:17:06.320 I don't think it's racist-

01:17:07.300 Do you want England to remain English?

01:17:11.000 And not having, like, even through legal process, other nationalities?

01:17:16.380 I mean, I suppose the country could allow some degree of legal immigration, but they

01:17:21.340 might just say, you know what?

01:17:22.240 We don't want to take in people from, it could be, it doesn't have to, you know, it could

01:17:26.380 be African countries, it could be Middle Eastern countries, we don't want to take in people

01:17:30.220 from these countries.

01:17:31.580 Do you think that that's problematic?

01:17:33.220 I think it- I would have to look at the reasoning behind that, because it could be a thing of like,

01:17:36.760 oh, white nationalist English, we want this, like, one identity in our country, or it could

01:17:41.700 be-

01:17:42.120 Is that wrong, though?

01:17:43.200 I think, I think that's very, I think that's wrong.

01:17:46.620 I think that's kind of racist.

01:17:47.520 I think if you looked at it in a way where it's like, oh, a lot of illegal, or even legal

01:17:51.320 immigration is, like, disrupting, like, other things like the economy or anything like

01:17:55.740 that, then I think, I mean, that's, like, more complicated, but that's not necessarily

01:18:00.000 racist.

01:18:01.200 I see.

01:18:01.600 What about, for example-

01:18:03.340 I think white nationalism is kind of racist, but yeah.

01:18:05.240 What about Japanese nationalism?

01:18:07.100 Oh, yeah.

01:18:07.580 Japan during, like, World War II?

01:18:09.220 No, no, no.

01:18:09.840 So what I'm talking about is, like, you realize that the majority of people who live in Japan,

01:18:15.520 they're an ethnic group.

01:18:16.760 They're Japanese.

01:18:17.600 Right.

01:18:18.080 Right.

01:18:18.740 So would- if the Japanese, through their majority political will, said, we want to keep Japan

01:18:26.680 Japanese, ethnically Japanese, we don't want to allow in immigrants-

01:18:32.100 That's bad.

01:18:33.060 I disagree with that.

01:18:33.860 So every single country ought to allow in immigrants, and they should lose their ethnicity,

01:18:39.300 essentially.

01:18:42.500 I don't think, like, when it comes to legal immigration, when it comes to, like, what,

01:18:46.700 like, like, who we should accept legally, I don't think you should start discriminating

01:18:50.440 based on ethnicity and race.

01:18:51.660 Well, let's say the Japanese, it wasn't like, well, you know what, we're going to let in

01:18:55.900 other, you know, Asians, we're going to let in whites, but we won't let in, you know,

01:19:01.880 these other people.

01:19:02.660 They were just like, you know what, nobody can come in.

01:19:07.480 We don't- we want to keep- I mean, obviously, tourism's okay, right?

01:19:10.860 We want to keep Japan Japanese.

01:19:13.880 Japanese, is that- is that wrong, for the Japanese people to want that?

01:19:20.420 I think- I think it's kind of- I don't think it's the best thing.

01:19:25.540 I don't think it would benefit Japan.

01:19:27.060 Like, there's clearly- like, there's a lot of people who go to study in Japan, who, like,

01:19:30.160 work in Japan, like, expats, and, like, I think, like, I think people from other countries

01:19:34.420 can bring a lot to Japan, so I don't think it's a good thing.

01:19:37.640 I don't know.

01:19:38.180 I don't believe in, like, this whole, like-

01:19:39.720 What's wrong with-

01:19:40.340 Ethnocentric.

01:19:40.760 What's wrong with Japan as it is?

01:19:43.980 Nothing's wrong-

01:19:44.480 And with their own culture and their own people, what's wrong with them, that they're failing?

01:19:49.740 Nothing's wrong with Japan as it is.

01:19:51.380 But you said it would be bad to exclude what these other people are bringing.

01:19:54.780 That would indicate some sort of failing amongst the Japanese populace.

01:19:59.020 That's definitely not what I said.

01:20:00.460 Again, what I'm-

01:20:01.000 It sounds like it, but okay.

01:20:02.100 Okay.

01:20:02.400 What I'm saying that I don't agree with is this stance of, okay, when it comes to who we

01:20:06.740 want to allow in our country, we're going to start discriminating

01:20:09.200 based on ethnicity, based on race, based on, like, identity things, things to do with

01:20:13.540 that.

01:20:13.980 Like, we have certain metrics in the U.S. of, like, who is allowed in legally.

01:20:17.360 Like, you look at, like, what you're contributing to this country, what kind of job you have.

01:20:20.660 My family's had to go through the whole process.

01:20:22.300 Like, those are not based on your ethnicity, your race, anything to do with your identity.

01:20:26.360 Those are reasonable, right?

01:20:27.800 Yeah, I think the United States-

01:20:28.480 If you start discriminating based on ethnicity or identity, then I don't agree with it.

01:20:30.980 That's what I'm saying.

01:20:31.540 I think the United States is different insofar as because there's so many different populations

01:20:36.980 that have been in the United States.

01:20:39.200 Um, but I'm speaking specifically about Japan.

01:20:43.360 Um, the Japanese, they are their own ethnicity, right?

01:20:47.620 Mm-hmm.

01:20:48.120 And so-

01:20:48.620 I mean, Japan is not purely Japanese.

01:20:50.800 Well, sure, yeah.

01:20:51.340 There are some people that, uh, have moved there.

01:20:54.500 Mm-hmm.

01:20:54.920 But, like, I don't think, for example, if I went through the process and moved to Japan

01:20:59.220 and I even became a citizen, I'm not even sure if-

01:21:02.580 I don't know what that's-

01:21:04.580 That's even possible, really.

01:21:05.820 It probably is.

01:21:06.560 There's people who can-

01:21:07.360 There's people who, like, live there long-term, can move there.

01:21:10.420 Mm-hmm.

01:21:10.580 I don't know.

01:21:11.960 I think they can gain citizenship.

01:21:12.920 Can you?

01:21:13.480 Yeah.

01:21:13.540 In any case, even if I've been there for 20 years and I do gain citizenship, am I Japanese?

01:21:19.740 If you've lived there for 20 years, like, you've really assimilated into your life there

01:21:23.880 and the culture there and everything, and you have a job there, and it's, like, your nationality

01:21:27.480 now, then, yeah, to a degree.

01:21:28.720 But I don't think I'm Japanese.

01:21:32.780 I mean, I would kind of consider myself American.

01:21:35.560 I'm not, like, ethnically, like, a white American or an indigenous American.

01:21:40.740 So, again, I don't think it depends on your identity.

01:21:42.860 What do you call it when a bunch of white people go to Asian countries or African countries

01:21:49.980 and they want to take the jobs there, they want to take, they want to start owning lands

01:21:56.660 there, they want to dictate into that culture, you know, they want to bring their culture

01:22:02.320 to that culture.

01:22:03.000 What do you call that when white people do that?

01:22:04.960 Well, you just mentioned, like, business ventures, and now you're talking about culture.

01:22:08.540 Well, it's all encompassing.

01:22:08.660 You said, like, oh, they want to own land there?

01:22:10.380 You want to own land there?

01:22:11.420 That's not bringing your culture there, is it?

01:22:14.860 Well, these are all separate things.

01:22:16.460 But my question is, when white people go to, you know, various countries all over the

01:22:21.320 world, what would you call that, historically?

01:22:27.660 I think you're, okay.

01:22:28.940 Like, okay, if you're talking specifically, like, in this case, about, like, a white person,

01:22:33.740 like, pursuing a business venture in Japan, I think that's just someone...

01:22:37.720 But let's say there was a lot of white people that were going to these countries.

01:22:42.320 Okay.

01:22:42.880 What would we call that?

01:22:43.620 If they start, like, conquesting the country and, like, overriding the government and treating

01:22:49.980 the people badly, then that would be colonization.

01:22:52.940 But that's not what you said earlier.

01:22:55.040 Okay.

01:22:56.120 Okay.

01:22:56.520 But do you have any issue with, if there was, like, you know, say, I'm trying to think

01:23:04.220 of a small country with a small population I can reference.

01:23:09.480 If, like, the populace of an African country became 25% white...

01:23:13.980 That would mean, like, a huge, large-scale influx of immigration.

01:23:19.200 And I think you could cap that for other reasons, because that would probably be so disruptive

01:23:22.940 to the country in so many other ways.

01:23:24.880 And the white people started, you know, getting more into their politics and wanting to be

01:23:27.820 elected and wanted certain protections for themselves.

01:23:30.680 Okay, well, again, any huge influx of, like, a group immigrating to another country would

01:23:37.320 cause, like, repercussions for that country.

01:23:39.620 I think people would call that colonialism.

01:23:42.340 When white people go to...

01:23:43.580 If they started, like, taking over and, like, overriding the government and, like, the people

01:23:47.140 there and treating them badly, then that would be, like, colonists.

01:23:50.500 Okay.

01:23:51.180 So, what you see currently, for example...

01:23:53.240 This, like, this is all, like, skyrocketed and branched out from me purely saying that

01:23:57.240 I don't think we should discriminate against immigrants based on their identity.

01:24:01.160 That's all I said.

01:24:02.080 And now it's, like, it's gone way beyond that.

01:24:04.620 Well, I'm responding to the super chat that mentioned the UK.

01:24:10.040 And so, for example, London...

01:24:12.180 The free speech thing?

01:24:12.840 You said your dad's from...

01:24:14.380 He's British.

01:24:15.500 He's from...

01:24:16.020 Well, he works in London, but he's from a different part of the UK.

01:24:18.560 Yeah.

01:24:18.760 So, I mean, my position is that...

01:24:22.100 I don't know if you like this one...

01:24:24.220 Is the British people have lost their capital.

01:24:31.240 So...

01:24:31.680 I don't keep up much with British politics.

01:24:33.720 You may have to clarify.

01:24:35.040 As somebody who's traveled recently, I've been to Amsterdam, you know, and so forth.

01:24:40.180 It's fun.

01:24:40.520 I've seen these countries firsthand.

01:24:42.000 Aren't they beautiful?

01:24:43.700 They don't look much like how they looked, like, 20, 30 years ago.

01:24:46.820 But, I mean, it's plausible that with all the immigration that's coming in, and not just the immigration, you know, there's a whole bunch of reasons for this.

01:24:55.820 But, for example, I guess I would call them, like, native-born people in these countries.

01:25:01.060 So, actual, like, British people, birth rates super low.

01:25:07.400 Immigrant populations, they're having six, seven, eight children, right?

01:25:10.800 So, what are we going to see in 30, 40, 50 years, 100 years, in a lot of these European countries where there really isn't a coherent national identity, and these countries are basically become Muslim countries?

01:25:26.580 You think in 30 years, European countries, such as the U.K.

01:25:30.640 Perhaps not in 30 years, but...

01:25:32.300 You said 20, 30 years now.

01:25:33.000 Well, there's going to be a trend.

01:25:35.500 I think that people have immigrated to the U.K., to the U.S. for a long time now, and it's not really become an issue, and it's not...

01:25:43.700 Define long time.

01:25:45.080 This is really a pretty recent thing, starting in the 2000s.

01:25:49.860 There was obviously immigration in the 70s, 80s, 90s, but for the vast majority of human history, Germany, France, England, Scandinavia, all these countries, they've been white countries.

01:26:03.300 Now, you might say, Brian, this is a bit racist.

01:26:05.500 I would point out...

01:26:06.580 I'm not saying that.

01:26:07.560 I would point out, though, that white people globally are a minority.

01:26:13.780 So, there are...

01:26:14.160 Like, statistically, like...

01:26:15.240 Like, if we compare all the races...

01:26:16.880 Like, out of 8 billion people...

01:26:17.580 Yes, out of 8 billion people, white people are a minority.

01:26:20.520 Sure.

01:26:21.140 There's more...

01:26:22.120 Isn't in that, like, in that same sense, like, isn't every race kind of a minority?

01:26:27.760 Because, like, Chinese people, that's 1 billion out of 8 billion, so that's, like, the minority of people, right?

01:26:32.080 Like, what's the logic in saying that?

01:26:34.400 So, it'd be the total number of all the people that belong to that race.

01:26:38.300 So, my understanding is, white people are the...

01:26:41.760 There's the least amount of white people, if you compare them to black people, Asian people, like, what would be the right term?

01:26:49.180 By a huge margin?

01:26:50.020 Or, like...

01:26:51.180 I don't think by a huge margin, there's the least amount of white people.

01:26:53.440 I don't know.

01:26:53.820 Can we find...

01:26:54.220 Nick, find the stats for it.

01:26:55.280 I mean, again, this feels so far...

01:26:56.740 I guess my position would be, if various African countries were to say, or Asian countries were to say, we want our country, we don't want to allow immigration from these other countries, whether it's...

01:27:11.160 If you're an African country, you say, we don't want a bunch of white people coming here, I think that that's fine.

01:27:20.120 I don't see a problem there.

01:27:22.140 Or, if you're Japan, and you're like, we don't want to let in these other immigrants, we want to remain Japanese to maintain our ethnicity, I don't actually see a problem with that.

01:27:35.700 I actually think it would be racist if we said, as this global population, we had to imprint our views and dictate to the Japanese people how they ought to govern their country.

01:27:47.760 I think that that would be racist.

01:27:49.780 And for us to say, you need to do away with the Japanese ethnicity and have this homogenous, you know, fucking Waysian, Blasian, just fucking mix it up.

01:28:00.940 And then the Japanese ethnicity is completely diluted.

01:28:04.580 So I think your argument that I can see a little bit is like, okay, that ethnic national identity is still important to the country and should be preserved to some degree.

01:28:12.620 So what I think where our viewpoints can kind of coalesce there, where we could maybe both see eye to eye is like, okay, you can have your cap of legal immigration, we want to let this many in per year.

01:28:22.840 And then like, within that, you don't discriminate based on ethnicity and identity, right?

01:28:27.140 So you can say, we only want this amount of people coming into our country per year in order to preserve, like, our national identity, our economy, or whatever it is.

01:28:35.140 But then within those, within however many people they're letting in per year, they don't start being discriminatory and prejudiced.

01:28:41.920 That's what I, that's where I think we could maybe.

01:28:44.420 I mean, okay.

01:28:46.360 Okay.

01:28:46.720 That's, see, that's a win, right?

01:28:48.000 I, this, I mean.

01:28:50.900 See, I'm trying to like get to a point where we can both agree on something.

01:28:53.500 I honestly think the United States is, there are valid issues and criticisms, you know, of how society is.

01:29:00.260 But like, you go to almost any other country and like the, the racism there is robust.

01:29:07.560 Oh, totally.

01:29:08.280 Yeah.

01:29:08.460 Like, it's insane.

01:29:10.060 Like, you think the U.S. is bad?

01:29:12.860 Like, I'm, I'm not, this isn't really.

01:29:15.460 We, uh, did I ever say that I think the U.S. is the most racist country?

01:29:19.420 Oh, heck yeah.

01:29:21.880 There's certainly racism in the U.S., but I'm not trying to do like a racism Olympics.

01:29:24.760 But like Japanese people, they're racist against other Asian groups.

01:29:27.260 Indians are super racist to like Chinese people, black people.

01:29:29.760 Like African countries, they're racist.

01:29:30.800 I have an Indian mother and a white father, yeah.

01:29:32.580 What was it with, in Rwanda, like the, well, I get, maybe that was more, a little bit religion based with the, whatever.

01:29:38.880 Was it like the Sunni and the Shiite or whatever?

01:29:41.440 I don't fucking know.

01:29:42.600 Okay.

01:29:42.840 I don't know.

01:29:43.860 In any case.

01:29:44.400 All countries have a lot of racism and there's some with more than others, sure.

01:29:47.840 But like, for example, like, I think about Sweden.

01:29:50.320 I think about Norway.

01:29:52.280 I don't actually see the problem with them.

01:29:54.560 And they've brought on, they've brought in a ton of immigrants.

01:29:58.320 Right.

01:29:59.140 I don't actually see the problem with them saying, you know what, we want to maintain like our Scandinavian national identity and heritage.

01:30:06.680 We don't want to bring in any more immigrants.

01:30:08.860 I don't actually see a problem with that in the same way that I don't see a problem with if African countries don't want to bring in other ethnicities.

01:30:18.820 I don't see, I don't see, I don't see a problem with it.

01:30:21.100 If you're completely capping immigration like that, that's one thing.

01:30:24.740 But then if you're having a certain amount of immigration and you're like, again, you're picking and choosing and you're discriminating and you're being prejudiced, kind of, then that's where I take issue.

01:30:34.240 Right.

01:30:34.420 And I think when you look at the U.S., which is not like ethnically like one single ethnicity, right, then to suddenly be discriminatory is a lot, has a lot different implications because we are not just one ethnicity like Sweden or Norway, right, is a lot more diverse historically.

01:30:50.060 The United States, to quote Charlie Kirk, is a propositional nation.

01:30:54.320 So it's not strictly just, just white people, you know, like.

01:30:58.260 Right.

01:30:58.800 So.

01:30:59.400 So I think the implications of being discriminatory against certain types of immigrants here.

01:31:03.100 I think you can just be.

01:31:04.180 Is a lot worse.

01:31:05.140 Well, no, I think just you could be against immigration across the board.

01:31:08.480 It wouldn't have to necessarily be at all related to race.

01:31:11.720 You could just be against.

01:31:12.300 You could be, yeah.

01:31:13.520 But I mean, I don't agree with that stance either for separate reasons.

01:31:15.860 I think immigrants, they do bring a lot into the country when it is optimized.

01:31:21.060 But that is a separate point.

01:31:22.340 And that's not necessarily as white nationalist.

01:31:24.260 If you don't agree with immigration.

01:31:25.400 Well, I could debate you on that.

01:31:26.660 But I feel like.

01:31:27.620 I want to let these other girls have a chance to talk.

01:31:29.680 We've gone back and forth.

01:31:30.720 We've talked too long.

01:31:31.320 So, okay, here.

01:31:32.780 We have some chats coming through.

01:31:34.460 No, it's fun though.

01:31:35.260 I like it here.

01:31:36.560 Hold on.

01:31:37.500 You get to read these for me, please?

01:31:39.200 Oh, God.

01:31:40.040 At least 12 Sharia courts in the UK.

01:31:43.540 Sharia courts.

01:31:44.260 Okay.

01:31:45.080 Muslim mayor after Muslim mayor.

01:31:47.860 I don't see that as any different than Christian mayor after Christian mayor.

01:31:51.360 Okay, sorry.

01:31:51.960 And more and more draconian behavior by the police.

01:31:55.400 But sure, they aren't a defeated people.

01:31:57.020 You want to talk about draconian behavior by the police?

01:31:59.320 Look at this country.

01:32:00.180 And also, I don't see how the religion of a mayor is at all relevant to their job as a mayor.

01:32:06.080 So long as they're not completely dictating their political views and what they're doing based on the religion.

01:32:11.620 Really quick, what's draconian about the police in the United States?

01:32:18.420 Police brutality, perhaps?

01:32:19.620 I acknowledge that that would occur, but is there widespread?

01:32:27.720 Like, is this policy in the departments?

01:32:29.840 I'm not saying majority of police commit police brutality, but in instances of police brutality, which are not like, there's more than one case of that occurring.

01:32:37.160 There's a lot of cases.

01:32:38.160 I think that is draconian when they're not following protocol.

01:32:41.180 And, like, Sonia Massey was a woman who got shot in the head when she was holding up a pot of boiling water to check on if it was cooking.

01:32:49.200 She got shot in the head.

01:32:49.680 Yeah, I saw that video.

01:32:50.460 That was pretty disgusting, right?

01:32:52.360 That was a clear example of police misconduct.

01:32:55.260 Right.

01:32:55.540 And an unjustified...

01:32:56.200 I think I'm calling that draconian.

01:32:58.060 Yeah, absolutely.

01:32:58.840 I'm on board with you.

01:33:00.440 There are absolutely instances of unjustified police killings, police brutality.

01:33:05.860 There's no dispute there.

01:33:07.120 Yeah, sure.

01:33:08.680 But across the board, draconian police practices and laws, I'm not so sure.

01:33:14.380 I'm not so sure either, but I'm talking about in cases where they're not...

01:33:17.200 I'm talking about in cases where police are not following protocol, which, again, are not, like...

01:33:22.360 one-off standalone events.

01:33:24.460 There's many standalone events.

01:33:27.160 Yeah, and I would join you...

01:33:28.600 You would agree with me?

01:33:29.260 I would join...

01:33:29.840 Okay, good talk.

01:33:30.280 Hold on.

01:33:30.560 I would join you in condemning instances of police brutality or police overextending.

01:33:38.460 Right.

01:33:38.920 So...

01:33:39.300 So I'm kind of calling that draconian, but...

01:33:41.800 Okay, anyway.

01:33:43.360 I'll happily bite the bullet on this one.

01:33:45.160 No one...

01:33:46.160 Not on should we discriminate based on ethnicity and culture of immigrants.

01:33:51.520 We have a duty to...

01:33:53.520 Each nation has a duty to maintain cultural cohesion.

01:33:57.920 So I guess this person just believes in, like, complete, like, ethnic nationalism for

01:34:01.900 every country.

01:34:02.560 No immigration, no diversity, nothing of that sort.

01:34:05.420 Cultures should not even interact with each other, probably, according to this person.

01:34:08.240 I mean, I'm not even really on immigration.

01:34:09.960 I'm not really interested in that.

01:34:12.080 I'm just more...

01:34:12.620 I wouldn't be here.

01:34:12.960 It would just be...

01:34:14.200 It would just be, like, the three white people here, according to this person.

01:34:17.600 Well, I'm not...

01:34:18.720 I'm more so interested, like, there's much more compelling arguments, at least in the

01:34:22.720 United States, as it relates to immigration.

01:34:24.160 And I would argue, really, even for Japan, for example.

01:34:27.220 Right.

01:34:28.100 It's not even an ethnic argument.

01:34:29.920 That's, like, way down the list.

01:34:31.860 Like, whatever.

01:34:32.700 It's more so, what are the impacts of immigration?

01:34:36.040 And other impacts, aside from ethnicity, like, I completely agree with you there.

01:34:40.500 Like, even in the U.S., I think, when you have, like, complete, uncharted, whatever,

01:34:44.040 like, let's let everyone in.

01:34:45.340 That has adverse consequences, for sure, that we could both agree on, right?

01:34:49.220 Yes.

01:34:49.980 Yes.

01:34:50.600 Definitely adverse.

01:34:51.460 Yes.

01:34:51.760 That's why I'm kind of moderate when it comes to certain...

01:34:54.520 Can I have you read this one for me?

01:34:55.780 I live in Minnesota, and I've witnessed the lack of assimilation from the Somali people

01:34:59.640 we had the most.

01:35:01.320 It's become the paradox of tolerance.

01:35:04.160 And they don't assimilate, and it's a problem for both sides.

01:35:07.000 I mean, I don't know much about, like, Somali people immigrating into Minnesota, but my guess

01:35:12.500 is that they're refugees of some sort.

01:35:14.380 And I would assume that their situation in Minnesota is probably better than their situation

01:35:18.160 back in Somalia, right?

01:35:20.540 Yeah, probably.

01:35:21.320 Probably.

01:35:21.780 So, I don't think it's bad for Somali people to be safer than wherever they were before,

01:35:25.760 because Somalia is not a very safe country.

01:35:27.400 Well, in that case, wouldn't the entailment of your position be we should transplant the

01:35:32.720 entire population of Somalia into the United States?

01:35:35.780 No.

01:35:36.120 Well, that's a very...

01:35:37.900 Well, why not?

01:35:38.580 It would be better here.

01:35:40.540 Because, again, like, a huge influx of immigration from any given group is obviously...

01:35:45.380 Like, it's hard to accommodate a huge amount of people just like that, right?

01:35:48.620 I think...

01:35:49.840 I mean, I really...

01:35:50.720 Like, I wish there was, like, a way to, like, help as many refugees as possible.

01:35:54.420 And, I mean, it's hard, though, because there's not always the space for that, right?

01:35:58.340 So, like, in a controlled manner, then I hope that we could help out more Somali refugees,

01:36:03.340 of course.

01:36:03.700 I mean, I would also point out that while there are refugees who are genuinely fleeing

01:36:08.800 some sort of persecution or something like that, a lot of immigrants, they're actually

01:36:16.220 just economic immigrants.

01:36:18.480 Okay.

01:36:18.960 They're just here...

01:36:19.480 I think people, they want to, like, move on from this topic in the chat.

01:36:22.520 Yeah, probably.

01:36:23.120 Right.

01:36:23.560 Probably.

01:36:24.480 I'm not trying to, like, drag it on.

01:36:25.800 I want to let, like, everyone else have a chance to speak.

01:36:27.440 We have some chats, though, coming through.

01:36:28.780 Hasty George donated $200.

01:36:32.080 Thanks to feminism and Israel's plan for a greater Israel in the Middle East.

01:36:37.400 A lot of countries have a birth rate crisis and a worker shortage, so everyone better

01:36:42.580 get used to get used to immigrants for a while.

01:36:44.680 Okay.

01:36:45.680 I mean, I think there's a dress...

01:36:50.940 You can address, like, birth rate crisis stuff without necessarily resorting to immigration

01:36:55.740 for it.

01:36:56.600 Thank you for the message, though.

01:36:58.500 Odddism below the threshold.

01:37:00.360 Also, we have Goat Brixen here.

01:37:02.140 Thank you for the message, though, but it's just a display.

01:37:04.860 And then, Nick, we have merch coming up here.

01:37:06.600 Goat Brixen, thank you for that.

01:37:07.940 Below the threshold, but I appreciate your message.

01:37:10.260 Goat Brixen.

01:37:10.920 And then we have John McCarthy.

01:37:13.800 Looks like he bought something on the merch store.

01:37:16.320 If you can pull...

01:37:18.920 Should I?

01:37:19.480 Oh, the merch store.

01:37:20.160 Get yourself one of those.

01:37:23.500 Hold on.

01:37:24.000 We have some other chats, too, coming in.

01:37:27.520 Hold on.

01:37:28.760 And then, yo, Diego, did that come through?

01:37:31.540 Did the one from Diego just come through?

01:37:34.080 Hold on.

01:37:35.440 One sec.

01:37:36.100 Then we have super chats.

01:37:37.000 You guys are sending in a bunch, so we're going to get it back to dating here in

01:37:40.900 just a sec, guys.

01:37:41.920 We should, yeah.

01:37:43.780 All right.

01:37:44.600 No worries, Brian.

01:37:48.620 I Show Speed donated $200.

01:37:51.400 I said the merch store.

01:37:52.920 Who is excited for me to come on the whatever podcast?

01:37:56.180 Apparently, we're having I Show Speed coming on the show.

01:37:58.660 What's up?

01:37:59.400 Okay.

01:38:01.100 Yeah, we got pizza.

01:38:02.900 Who wants pizza?

01:38:04.000 Me.

01:38:04.480 Everybody?

01:38:04.720 I'm hungry.

01:38:05.880 All right.

01:38:06.240 It's tiring.

01:38:06.780 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:08.260 Yes, everybody.

01:38:09.180 And then, okay.

01:38:12.040 Here, we have two more chats here.

01:38:15.960 Oh, the supers.

01:38:16.980 Let me do the supers really quick.

01:38:19.740 All right.

01:38:20.840 One sec, guys.

01:38:22.460 Oh, my gosh.

01:38:24.580 All right, guys.

01:38:25.400 Like the video if you're enjoying the stream.

01:38:27.360 Got a little political there for a bit, but I'm sure I've pissed off the entire panel

01:38:31.720 talking about politics here.

01:38:33.040 Sorry, guys.

01:38:34.080 It's her fault.

01:38:35.100 Blame Shona.

01:38:35.820 You're asking me questions.

01:38:36.840 Blame her.

01:38:37.420 It's all her fault.

01:38:38.100 It's all his fault.

01:38:39.960 We already saw that.

01:38:41.200 I had to wait three months to get my handgun.

01:38:43.740 Oh, can you read these?

01:38:44.820 You'll be reading these?

01:38:46.000 In Washington, I had to wait three months to get my handgun after FBI and ATF checks.

01:38:50.300 A criminal can rob a house and have a gun in one hour.

01:38:54.340 How's your gun control working for you?

01:38:56.060 I think that means that we need more effective gun control methods if it didn't work for some

01:39:00.720 criminal.

01:39:05.540 Again, you can just obtain it illegally.

01:39:10.520 Well, then more should be done so that people can't obtain it illegally.

01:39:13.520 But your solutions are to have legal protections in place.

01:39:19.580 But a legal would suggest that regardless of what the laws are, it wouldn't prevent somebody

01:39:32.720 from getting a gun illegally.

01:39:34.580 And I hope there's a solution.

01:39:36.100 Are we having a mukbang?

01:39:37.700 Can we?

01:39:38.560 Okay.

01:39:39.800 Read this for me, please.

01:39:42.380 I can't wait to annihilate Andrew Wilson in the debate November 10th on your channel.

01:39:46.960 Keep making a difference, Brian.

01:39:48.900 You're legendary.

01:39:50.560 If you guys can, just lean back a little bit just while you're chewing.

01:39:56.940 Andrew Wilson said some crazy things.

01:39:58.320 Roma Army, thank you.

01:39:59.860 I'm going to stay neutral on that.

01:40:01.820 But thank you for the super chat.

01:40:03.780 Appreciate it.

01:40:04.500 We will be having you guys do a debate.

01:40:06.840 We have this.

01:40:08.860 Oh, God.

01:40:09.860 Chair One, do you think it's right that the government is giving immigrants $3,000 a month

01:40:16.140 in free money and free phones, but we can't help homeless Americans and veterans living

01:40:21.480 on the streets?

01:40:22.820 I think that means we should do more to help homeless Americans and veterans living on the

01:40:26.180 streets.

01:40:26.460 Or what if we just redirected all that money to the homeless?

01:40:33.200 Why don't we redirect the money we're sending Israel every year?

01:40:36.460 The $18 billion we sent them last year.

01:40:39.680 Sorry?

01:40:40.240 That's my response.

01:40:41.260 Like, we don't have to get into that.

01:40:43.380 I mean, that's a great whataboutism, but it's, yeah, it's a completely different thing.

01:40:48.920 But if we're taught, like, that sort of help that, the greater relation here is that the

01:40:57.740 sort of help that we're providing to immigrants, it's the exact same help that could be going

01:41:03.200 to homeless people.

01:41:04.480 So, like, homeless people in America, we can't, like, send them ballistic missiles.

01:41:09.840 Like, we can't give homeless people ballistic missiles and all this other sort of, like,

01:41:14.840 firearms and shit.

01:41:16.040 I guess you could give homeless people firearms if you, like, if you wanted some entertainment,

01:41:19.740 like, bum fights or whatever.

01:41:21.020 That shit would be fucking lit.

01:41:22.880 But the aid that we're giving to Israel doesn't align with, like, what we could, the actual

01:41:30.600 similarities that we could be providing to homeless people.

01:41:33.880 Also, I don't believe all immigrants are just getting $3,000 a month.

01:41:37.380 I'm an immigrant.

01:41:38.140 My family's not getting that.

01:41:39.960 Like, is this, like, every single person who's immigrated?

01:41:42.180 Wait, hold on.

01:41:43.120 You were born in, do you have United States citizenship or no?

01:41:46.920 No, I have a green card.

01:41:48.080 Okay.

01:41:49.660 I think typically when we're talking about immigrants receiving payments, we're talking

01:41:53.860 about, like, just arrived.

01:41:56.420 And you have your green card.

01:41:58.480 So, yeah.

01:42:00.520 Okay, regardless, I still think my response to that, this person clearly thinks more should

01:42:05.200 be done for veterans and homeless Americans.

01:42:06.980 I also agree that more should be done.

01:42:08.860 And the U.S. does have the resources and money to help homeless people and veterans.

01:42:13.440 Okay.

01:42:13.760 Can you read this one?

01:42:15.040 Each country is allowed to police the standards they want for their country, whether it's

01:42:19.840 religion, politics, EDC.

01:42:23.480 Otherwise, there's nothing but a colonial mindset.

01:42:28.460 Good times.

01:42:29.120 Thank you.

01:42:29.380 Okay, but I don't think you should push things that have to do with religion and identity

01:42:32.640 too much as a democratic government.

01:42:37.560 What about in countries where they do have, like, a theological rule?

01:42:42.320 I mean, like, ultimately, I can't see everything from, like, an American perspective.

01:42:46.460 Like, there are other countries that have, like, their own history and, like, ways of doing

01:42:50.980 things that I can't necessarily disrespect.

01:42:52.560 So, I guess in those cases, then, that could potentially be true.

01:42:56.420 But when talking about the U.S., I don't think that should dominate, like, the government and

01:42:59.960 the way that I think.

01:43:00.600 Can I ask you a question?

01:43:01.720 If I wanted to move to Mexico.

01:43:04.280 Right.

01:43:05.420 And live there.

01:43:06.320 And I overstayed my visa, whatever, because, I don't know, the cost of living there is, like,

01:43:10.700 super cheap.

01:43:11.260 And there's, like, really beautiful, there's really beautiful places in Mexico, fantastic

01:43:17.220 beach towns, et cetera, et cetera.

01:43:20.040 Would you have an issue if Mexico deported me?

01:43:23.080 If you overstayed your visa?

01:43:24.600 Yeah.

01:43:25.400 No, but I want to stay there.

01:43:27.540 But then you have to go through the legal process of staying there, then.

01:43:30.560 Okay, so just to be clear, then you're in favor of deporting all illegal immigrants in

01:43:33.920 this country?

01:43:34.300 Not into throwing them into, like, that prison in El Salvador with deadly gang members.

01:43:42.340 I'm not a fan of the methods that ICE has been using to deport.

01:43:45.520 Yeah, I think most people are not receiving, like, that sort of treatment or whatever.

01:43:50.520 A lot.

01:43:51.020 Too many are.

01:43:51.540 I don't know the details.

01:43:51.840 Too many are.

01:43:52.360 Are they from El Salvador?

01:43:53.900 Then we should probably deport them to El Salvador.

01:43:56.440 No, no, no.

01:43:56.860 But people in the U.S. who, like, they've overstayed them.

01:43:59.500 No, no, but should we deport people who are here illegally?

01:44:01.840 I think that's a very complicated question.

01:44:06.240 But hold on.

01:44:06.800 Why should, if I go to Mexico and I'm there illegally, why don't you have a prescriptive

01:44:14.380 take on the Mexican government against deporting me?

01:44:19.560 Now, if you had said that you have your whole life in Mexico for a long time and you have

01:44:23.180 kids there.

01:44:23.600 I've moved there.

01:44:24.280 Right.

01:44:24.500 And you have, like, kids there.

01:44:25.720 You have grandkids there.

01:44:26.440 I can buy a fucking burrito for $1.

01:44:28.820 I fucking love it in Mexico.

01:44:30.480 The fucking beaches are beautiful.

01:44:32.540 No, no.

01:44:32.700 Not just, like, your enjoyment.

01:44:33.660 Like, you have family there.

01:44:34.480 You have a life settled into there.

01:44:35.660 Do I think you should suddenly be thrown out the way ICE throws out?

01:44:38.120 So, to be clear, what's your threshold for, like, if they've been here under a year, you're

01:44:42.140 fine with them being deported?

01:44:43.760 It's hard to draw a line there, but my overall take is to prevent it.

01:44:45.780 Okay, then I shouldn't be deported from Mexico, then.

01:44:48.900 If you've just got, like, you've overstayed your visa for six months, that's not.

01:44:53.780 Yeah, I flew there, and I was like, you know what?

01:44:56.280 Mexico's fucking dope.

01:44:57.540 I'm just, I'm going to stay there.

01:44:59.280 Fuck the Mexican laws.

01:45:00.540 Fuck their laws.

01:45:01.340 I don't give a shit.

01:45:02.160 I think you can be ethically deported.

01:45:04.640 What's that?

01:45:05.320 I think, in that case, you can be ethically deported and not.

01:45:08.840 So, why can't, why wouldn't that be the case of people who've been here for six months?

01:45:13.320 Who've been here in the U.S. for six months?

01:45:15.060 Yeah, who came here illegally.

01:45:16.400 Whether it's crossing the border, or they overstayed their visa, or whatever.

01:45:20.340 So, what has happened to people in the U.S.?

01:45:23.440 Yeah, okay, I'll go ahead and grant that, sure, there's been, like, bad things that have

01:45:27.720 happened.

01:45:28.440 I don't think it's the majority of the people.

01:45:30.500 Should they be deported?

01:45:31.320 Have you heard of the prison in El Salvador?

01:45:32.920 It's called SICOT, and it's, like, this prison where they throw deadly, like, gang members

01:45:36.320 who have killed, like, 30 people in El Salvador.

01:45:38.020 Like, tatted, like, dangerous people.

01:45:40.500 They're throwing people who've overstayed.

01:45:41.820 Okay, so you think, like, a Canadian who's overstayed their welcome here gets

01:45:46.000 deported to El Salvador?

01:45:48.040 People have, yes.

01:45:49.320 You have to look into it.

01:45:51.040 Canadians have been deported to El Salvador.

01:45:55.160 No, because, you know why?

01:45:56.000 Because, well, no.

01:45:57.280 No, not really, because, like, there's not...

01:45:59.160 We're not really looking at large scales of Canadian immigration here.

01:46:02.560 The people who have been deported to El Salvador, are they El Salvadorians?

01:46:07.920 There are many different ethnicities.

01:46:09.780 They're not necessarily El Salvadorian at all.

01:46:11.780 There's no, like, relation there.

01:46:12.840 Sure, it's possible that mix-ups can occur.

01:46:14.620 It's not a mix-up.

01:46:15.340 It doesn't matter, like...

01:46:16.700 No, there's not robust, just, we don't give a fuck your country of origin.

01:46:20.720 We'll throw you there anyway.

01:46:21.620 That's what it is.

01:46:22.420 No.

01:46:22.740 Whether...

01:46:23.100 Yes.

01:46:23.520 It's not true.

01:46:23.740 Oh, my gosh.

01:46:24.220 Someone pull it up.

01:46:24.680 Also, that prison has very limited, like, it has a limited population.

01:46:28.980 It's already full of not even immigrants, people in El Salvador who have committed crimes.

01:46:34.280 Okay, Trump is trying to put anyone who is, like...

01:46:36.520 Okay, how many illegal immigrants are in this country?

01:46:39.680 I don't know.

01:46:40.180 How many of them have been deported to El Salvadorian prisons?

01:46:45.580 I'm not saying all of them have.

01:46:47.140 Like, a thousand...

01:46:47.180 Even if there's a thousand people, answer my central point.

01:46:50.380 Should illegal immigrants in this country be deported?

01:46:55.100 Not the way ICE has been doing it.

01:46:57.000 And not...

01:46:57.320 Which is how?

01:46:58.000 It's a nuanced question.

01:46:58.980 How?

01:46:59.000 Like, ripping people away from their families and throwing them to, like, a bus and taking

01:47:04.820 them back to, like, a dangerous situation because they saw one tattoo on them that was

01:47:09.060 maybe connected to a gang.

01:47:10.220 Okay, great.

01:47:10.780 But then maybe it wasn't even connected.

01:47:12.040 One example.

01:47:12.740 And I think there's actually robust evidence he was gang-affiliated.

01:47:15.600 In any case, I'm asking, look, if I go to Mexico, you seem to agree that the Mexican

01:47:22.180 government has the authority to, I overstay my visa.

01:47:26.240 I'm like, no, I want to stay.

01:47:27.920 And who knows?

01:47:29.120 Maybe I knock up a little senorita while I'm there.

01:47:32.500 I knock her up.

01:47:33.700 I got a little mamacita baby mama in Mexico.

01:47:36.840 You have a family there.

01:47:37.720 You have a child you're raising there.

01:47:38.400 I got a big booty Latina kicking it in Mexico.

01:47:41.520 And I got a family.

01:47:43.760 Then I don't think you should suddenly just be thrown out.

01:47:46.600 And look, my solution to that, to cap...

01:47:48.740 All right.

01:47:49.420 Look, look, my solution to preventing illegal...

01:47:50.720 So your argument is, I need to just fuck a Mexican woman, get her pregnant, and then I

01:47:55.480 can stay in Mexico.

01:47:56.660 Facts.

01:47:57.920 That's your sign, yeah.

01:48:07.460 Anyways.

01:48:08.380 Okay.

01:48:08.920 To kind of like, to make this more concise, what I think the ultimate solution when it

01:48:13.900 comes to illegal immigration to do is to prevent it in the first place with like secure borders

01:48:18.600 and control in that regard.

01:48:21.140 Okay.

01:48:21.540 Rather than having to like throw and rip apart families the way ICE has been doing it, because

01:48:25.380 I don't believe in that.

01:48:28.140 I hope...

01:48:28.780 Okay.

01:48:29.440 Okay.

01:48:29.800 I mean, I'm just...

01:48:31.300 Okay.

01:48:31.860 How would you want them to do it?

01:48:35.680 Like, these people are clearly resisting.

01:48:38.300 They're here in the country illegally.

01:48:40.220 That's a crime.

01:48:41.080 So...

01:48:42.080 People who have families and who are now law-abiding and have jobs here because they came here legally...

01:48:48.820 So can I just...

01:48:49.660 Can I move to Japan?

01:48:50.940 Like, Japan's super dope.

01:48:52.480 Can I just move to Japan and just say fuck you to their laws?

01:48:59.040 You mean like not following their laws?

01:49:02.340 Breaking laws there?

01:49:03.380 No, no.

01:49:03.940 I can be law-abiding, but they have immigration laws in Japan.

01:49:08.840 Can I just say, you know what?

01:49:09.920 Fuck the laws that the will of the people of Japan have determined they want for their

01:49:15.460 country.

01:49:15.980 Can I just move there and be like, you know what?

01:49:18.900 Yo, Japan's fucking dope.

01:49:21.100 Can I just kick...

01:49:22.240 Stay in Japan?

01:49:23.140 I don't think that's right of you if you did that.

01:49:24.960 I don't agree with that.

01:49:25.640 Okay.

01:49:26.080 So is it wrong for people who are here illegally to...

01:49:29.040 To do what they're doing?

01:49:30.360 Again, I would rather them...

01:49:32.260 Okay.

01:49:32.720 Sure.

01:49:33.480 Right?

01:49:33.980 I don't think people should immigrate illegally.

01:49:36.240 And so within the government's...

01:49:37.420 But I believe that there should not be bad treatment of people once they have...

01:49:40.520 I agree with you.

01:49:41.220 Right.

01:49:41.500 And I don't believe in how ISIS treated people who have immigrated here, whether it be

01:49:44.840 illegally or not.

01:49:45.300 I totally agree, but if you start...

01:49:46.420 You agree that ISIS treating people badly?

01:49:49.440 There's probably...

01:49:50.420 No, no.

01:49:50.860 Hold on.

01:49:51.480 I agree with you that they...

01:49:52.780 Hold on.

01:49:53.160 No.

01:49:53.740 I agree with you that if you're under arrest, you're owed certain...

01:49:58.540 Whether you're a citizen or an immigrant, you're owed certain protections.

01:50:02.900 We obviously can't like police brutality immigrants.

01:50:07.500 However, if you're going to resist arrest, then the police...

01:50:12.260 Like, if a cop is trying to arrest me for, I don't know, pimping or something.

01:50:18.240 I don't know what the fuck.

01:50:19.280 He's trying to...

01:50:19.840 A cop is trying to arrest me, and I resist arrest.

01:50:23.520 Police have authority to use an escalation of force to secure my arrest.

01:50:30.200 And I don't know what else to tell you.

01:50:32.540 Like, do you expect cops to just be like, please, please...

01:50:36.600 No, no.

01:50:37.580 The cops are going to use the necessary force to secure the arrest, so...

01:50:43.520 I don't think great measures of force should be used on people who are, like, a mother who, like, is being torn apart from her family.

01:50:51.860 Well, is she resisting arrest?

01:50:54.300 In which case, they're going to...

01:50:55.300 When someone has their whole life set up in America, I don't think that should suddenly be just disregarded.

01:50:59.900 Okay, but then...

01:51:01.240 Because suddenly you're not treating...

01:51:02.280 I believe, like, the overall principle of the government and our leadership is that we should be treating people right, and we should look out for the betterment of society.

01:51:09.500 And when you have so many immigrants in the U.S., I don't think you can suddenly turn around and treat them badly because they broke a law.

01:51:14.940 Again, my take on immigration is that we should prevent illegal immigration in the first place so that eventually we don't have to do this to them, and we don't have to rip them apart the way I...

01:51:22.400 So you're in favor of, like, robust...

01:51:24.140 Secure borders?

01:51:25.080 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

01:51:25.980 You believe, like, build the wall?

01:51:28.900 Like, I don't understand how clearly illegal immigrants get into the country, and it's extremely difficult to prevent it at the border, but people can be apprehended once they're already into the country.

01:51:42.580 I hope they can be apprehended as soon as possible, so what's happening to people doesn't happen in the future.

01:51:48.360 Okay, so you're just saying we should reward the people that are the sneakiest, I guess?

01:51:52.680 I mean, I don't understand.

01:51:53.660 I'm saying we shouldn't rip families apart and throw them into vans and then just send them to, like, a dangerous situation.

01:51:58.880 Well, they should come here illegal, then...

01:52:00.320 Well, then there's processes to do that.

01:52:02.800 And then that wouldn't happen.

01:52:04.080 Processes that are maybe more ethical than what's being done?

01:52:06.400 Sure.

01:52:07.320 But not what's being done.

01:52:10.220 I'm sorry, like, is my argument that, like, tiring to you?

01:52:13.500 My whole family came from Colombia, so, like, my mom is from Colombia.

01:52:19.380 She was born there, and they were all able to do the proper things to become legal.

01:52:24.640 I don't think it's that hard.

01:52:25.800 All you have to do is attest.

01:52:26.920 Just come here legally.

01:52:27.960 Like, you just become legal.

01:52:29.920 Yeah, like, it is a lot of money, but all you have to do is attest.

01:52:34.340 It's so easy to gain legal status in the U.S.

01:52:37.960 I'm just saying this.

01:52:39.720 So easy.

01:52:40.980 It's sarcastic.

01:52:41.860 If, for example, local jurisdiction, if the Santa Barbara County Sheriff can, like, enthusiastically pursue charging college students with minor in possession of alcohol,

01:52:58.740 and trust me, they robustly, they're out there, like, specifically out there to catch some, like, naive 18-year-old holding a white-claw can.

01:53:07.880 Oh, tell me about it.

01:53:08.720 And they want, and they, the district attorney's office fucking loves getting that fine money from 18-year-olds who had a fucking can, like, a can of beer.

01:53:21.600 If they can enforce that, then, yeah, I think we can enforce our immigration laws.

01:53:27.060 And I don't know.

01:53:29.000 In better ways than what's being done?

01:53:31.000 Sure.

01:53:32.440 Hopefully.

01:53:33.120 I wish.

01:53:33.580 Okay.

01:53:33.980 In any case.

01:53:34.800 I just want, I want to, again, I don't believe people should just come in here, like, uncharted, and I would rather people be prevented from coming in the first place.

01:53:43.000 I just want people to be, like, if they have a whole family here, whether or not they immigrated legally or not, that they should be treated better than how they are.

01:53:53.420 I guess.

01:53:53.960 Again, I want to give all the other girls a chance.

01:53:55.520 The final thing on the immigration thing.

01:53:57.640 So, my understanding is, Nick, remember that, can you Google the, I think it's the Mexican Constitution, you can't protest unless you're a citizen.

01:54:10.480 Can you, where's Nick?

01:54:11.600 That's bad, by the way.

01:54:12.340 I don't believe in that.

01:54:13.660 I think everyone should have the right to protest.

01:54:14.860 For example, you would agree that there are expats, like, ex-U.S. citizens that live in Mexico?

01:54:20.840 Sure, yeah.

01:54:21.440 Yeah.

01:54:21.940 And so, let's say there are probably illegal immigrants living in Mexico, like, people who just, they went to Mexico, they're American, and they just stayed, right?

01:54:31.680 Right.

01:54:31.980 Imagine if there was a bunch of, like, Americans in Mexico rioting in the streets about Mexico deporting Americans.

01:54:43.340 Do you think that, like, you think that would go over well?

01:54:46.440 And do you think, like, Mexican citizens would, like, also join and be like, no, keep the Americans?

01:54:56.740 Okay, wait, sorry.

01:54:57.800 Can you say that again?

01:54:59.000 Well, so, there's a law.

01:55:00.200 I believe it's in the Mexican, do you have it, Mary?

01:55:02.120 Yeah, can you pull it up?

01:55:04.440 If there are lots of American immigrants in Mexico and starting leave.

01:55:08.400 In Mexico, foreigners are legally prohibited from participating in political protests and risk detention and deportation under Article 33 of the Mexican.

01:55:18.820 So, you can't even protest, right?

01:55:22.040 You said rioting just now.

01:55:23.220 I don't believe, I think there's a difference between rioting and protesting peacefully.

01:55:27.280 So, if these people are peacefully protesting about whatever they believe in.

01:55:30.380 If you're in Mexico and you're peacefully protesting, but you're not a citizen, they're just going to deport you.

01:55:36.260 So, even if you're there.

01:55:37.080 That's kind of bad.

01:55:37.960 Yeah, I don't agree with that.

01:55:39.400 All right.

01:55:40.020 But why is the criticism always towards the United States and not towards other countries who have way harsher punishments?

01:55:47.660 I don't agree with, if Mexico says that you can't peacefully protest if you're from another country, then I criticize that.

01:55:53.700 And I have plenty of criticisms for many other countries.

01:55:56.260 I think it's fine, actually.

01:55:57.160 I criticize, like, I would criticize any country.

01:55:59.920 Why should, you should be, it's a privilege to be visiting a country.

01:56:04.880 It's a privilege to be a tourist somewhere.

01:56:09.440 You should, while you're a tourist somewhere, I don't think you should involve yourself in the political happenings of that country.

01:56:16.240 If it's a democratic country, then you have the right to, though.

01:56:20.280 So, I don't think.

01:56:21.340 Democracy doesn't pick and choose just because you're a tourist there.

01:56:24.600 Well, citizens are afforded more civil liberties and protections, typically.

01:56:29.320 I have my two cents.

01:56:30.840 So, like, what if you literally have a birthright trip to Israel?

01:56:37.140 Mm-hmm.

01:56:38.360 Yeah.

01:56:38.860 Wait, a what?

01:56:39.340 Like, what if you have a birthright trip to Israel?

01:56:43.160 Like, despite the whole thing that's going on between Gaza and...

01:56:47.160 Yeah, many people do.

01:56:48.640 Yeah, like...

01:56:49.780 The birthright trip.

01:56:50.920 Yeah.

01:56:51.460 What, what about it?

01:56:53.420 Like, do you think that's still insensitive to still go, despite all the shit that's happening?

01:57:00.680 I don't see how it...

01:57:02.440 I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make.

01:57:05.240 No, because I'm just, like, yes, I guess it's a birthright trip and everything, but it's

01:57:11.120 the fact that there's a whole genocide and there's a whole war going on, but you're still

01:57:15.620 choosing to go to Israel.

01:57:19.260 Um...

01:57:19.700 I don't see how that correlates to what we're going to add.

01:57:21.220 Yeah, I'm lost.

01:57:22.420 Wait, but I do have something to say.

01:57:24.360 I feel like the United States is literally, like, one of the easiest places to get, like,

01:57:31.660 to be legal, and, like, it shouldn't be easy to become legal in another country.

01:57:37.260 You should know about the country, and that's the test they take, and, like, a lot of people

01:57:42.080 were capable of doing it.

01:57:43.760 So I don't think it's that hard to become legal in the United States.

01:57:46.380 We have some chats coming through here.

01:57:48.320 Can you read this one for us?

01:57:51.600 They don't assimilate, though they are trying to change our ways into their ways, and they're

01:57:57.400 rude to us.

01:57:58.040 Even my left-wing mom hates it.

01:58:00.340 I don't think immigrants are going up to American citizens and telling them to subscribe to their

01:58:05.640 beliefs and their culture.

01:58:06.740 I think most of them are trying to just make a living for themselves and raise their kids

01:58:09.700 properly.

01:58:10.400 Okay.

01:58:13.720 Pastey George donated $200.

01:58:16.760 This man has money to spend.

01:58:18.040 In Canada, Middle Eastern immigrants get wage subsidies from the government to encourage

01:58:21.820 businesses to hire them.

01:58:23.300 Many of them also get grants to start businesses, which are very hard to get.

01:58:29.940 Thank you, Pastey George.

01:58:30.640 He has three more in a row coming.

01:58:32.740 Sorry for the delay on these, brother.

01:58:34.080 Oh, my God.

01:58:34.660 By the way, Pastey George, I'm going to hook you up with a special TTS noise, but you got

01:58:38.960 to respond to me on Instagram, okay?

01:58:40.560 Special TTS noise.

01:58:41.860 Guys, read 100, TTS 200.

01:58:43.820 Pastey George donated $200.

01:58:45.940 There's a reason why many immigrants are coming from the Middle East to countries like Canada,

01:58:52.080 America, Britain, etc.

01:58:53.980 But nobody seems to notice or think critically about it.

01:58:57.640 Everyone just reacts.

01:59:01.000 Maybe because they're trying to flee dangerous situations, not because they're trying to

01:59:04.440 take over and rule other countries.

01:59:06.100 You know what?

01:59:06.960 I'd be open to investing in these other countries to build up these other countries.

01:59:12.820 Me too.

01:59:13.220 Pastey George donated $200.

01:59:16.800 It's very unfortunate that ICE is breaking up families in America, but that is the only

01:59:21.720 way right now to deal with illegal immigrants.

01:59:24.920 They can't all detain them, and America is already in high debt.

01:59:30.700 I'm glad you think it's unfortunate.

01:59:32.340 It's very unfortunate.

01:59:34.020 No, continue.

01:59:35.040 No, I was like, what does death have to do with breaking up families?

01:59:40.820 Scoot the mic to the edge of the table.

01:59:42.760 No, just don't touch the mic.

01:59:44.660 Just scoot it to the edge of the table.

01:59:47.060 A lot of the corporations, companies, and businesses in America were taking advantage

01:59:51.920 of illegal immigrants and saving on taxes by paying them low wages and giving them zero

01:59:57.340 benefits.

01:59:59.340 True.

02:00:00.780 True.

02:00:01.440 All right.

02:00:01.740 Thank you, Pastey George.

02:00:02.920 We have Mr. Baseman.

02:00:04.040 You're going to read this one once it's come up.

02:00:05.660 Once it comes up.

02:00:07.460 Guys, read as $100, TTS $200.

02:00:11.600 Get it in if you'd like.

02:00:13.300 Guys, we're going to get to dating.

02:00:14.780 We're going to get to dating.

02:00:15.860 Okay.

02:00:17.920 No, I feel bad.

02:00:18.840 I blame show matters.

02:00:20.520 I blame her.

02:00:20.940 I swear, you keep asking me these drawn-out hypotheticals, and I just have to answer them.

02:00:24.760 It's all your fault.

02:00:27.040 Okay, do I read this?

02:00:27.580 All your fault.

02:00:28.480 Oh, yes.

02:00:29.160 Read it.

02:00:30.200 Brian, you must render a most severe...

02:00:32.860 Here, I'll pull it back up.

02:00:35.020 Look, I've been trying to move the conversation, too.

02:00:37.100 It's okay.

02:00:37.420 It's okay.

02:00:38.240 We're good.

02:00:38.760 Go ahead.

02:00:39.040 Read it.

02:00:39.620 You must render a most severe rebuke to your chat.

02:00:42.180 There's a disturbing amount of simping.

02:00:44.880 Disgusting slash unacceptable.

02:00:46.820 Likewise, I hereby rebuke you for being a big Mac with big ears, chair one, zip it, idiot.

02:00:53.040 Okay.

02:00:53.640 You just spent $100 to say something to me, so I feel like you love it.

02:00:58.080 Rebuked?

02:00:58.660 I rebuked the chat, I guess?

02:01:01.380 Let's see here.

02:01:03.220 Okay, we'll do those later.

02:01:05.380 All right.

02:01:06.020 And then we have the soup chat here from Pelagic.

02:01:08.940 Let me have you read this one.

02:01:10.700 Oh, God.

02:01:12.500 The fantasy land she lives in was created by the very things she loathes.

02:01:17.580 Men fighting with guns for freedom.

02:01:21.560 We live in the good times on the precipice of the downturn.

02:01:26.260 Pelagic, thank you for the soup chat, man.

02:01:27.540 Appreciate it.

02:01:27.980 Guys, if you want to get your own message in, read is $100.

02:01:31.540 We do those in batches.

02:01:32.880 And then TTS gets priority.

02:01:34.600 That's $200 for TTS.

02:01:36.760 That's streamlabs.com slash whatever only.

02:01:39.280 Streamlabs.com slash whatever only.

02:01:40.040 I don't think men with guns gave me access to education and things that actually helped me in my life.

02:01:44.940 I certainly don't think their guns had anything to do with it, but okay.

02:01:47.660 Well, force.

02:01:49.120 Everything boils down to force.

02:01:52.620 So everything, like almost everything that you enjoy is because there's rough men that are anonymous that are ready to do harm on your behalf.

02:02:02.720 I don't have a problem with men who have guns.

02:02:05.500 I have a problem with men who have guns and then shoot up schools.

02:02:08.800 Yeah, that's bad.

02:02:12.360 Okay.

02:02:12.720 I'm saying that's what I have a problem with when it comes to gun violence.

02:02:16.200 But this person is saying, like, oh, I loathe men with guns.

02:02:18.900 I don't loathe men with guns.

02:02:19.900 I loathe gun violence.

02:02:21.660 That is bad and illegal.

02:02:22.920 Yeah, gun violence bad.

02:02:24.580 Do you think that's reasonable for me to say?

02:02:26.460 Yeah, I think gun violence is bad, of course.

02:02:29.280 Right.

02:02:29.580 Okay, so I'm just saying I don't loathe men with guns inherently like this person is saying.

02:02:33.540 Okay.

02:02:34.000 I loathe gun violence.

02:02:35.640 Cool.

02:02:36.280 We have Venmo Cash App, guys.

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02:03:02.620 Okay.

02:03:03.380 All right.

02:03:04.000 Cool.

02:03:04.400 Let's get to some – I apologize to the panel.

02:03:06.840 You know, look, you had a little political convo there.

02:03:09.520 The blame is totally – it's her fault.

02:03:12.300 All her fault.

02:03:13.300 Blame her.

02:03:13.940 Don't blame me.

02:03:14.380 It was fun, though.

02:03:15.340 It was good.

02:03:15.880 It was good.

02:03:16.320 So we'll get you guys into the convo here.

02:03:18.500 I want to talk to Andrew Wilson now.

02:03:19.600 Now she's going to be like, all right, let me tell you all my – every single one of my dating takes.

02:03:23.920 My lack of relationships.

02:03:25.900 Yo, Kaibaka, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.

02:03:29.120 Guys, really appreciate it.

02:03:30.300 Thank you.

02:03:30.700 Thank you.

02:03:32.400 Appreciate it.

02:03:33.300 Thank you, guys, for all the support.

02:03:34.960 Okay.

02:03:35.780 Let's see here.

02:03:36.980 We have – we're going to get into some of the pre-show notes.

02:03:39.900 Actually, really quick.

02:03:42.960 Okay.

02:03:43.420 We did that.

02:03:44.500 Boom, boom, boom.

02:03:45.120 I – oh, I wanted to ask everybody's orientation, like straight, bisexual, lesbian, whatever, gay, pan, whatever it is.

02:03:56.880 Orientation?

02:03:57.440 I'm straight.

02:03:58.700 Straight.

02:04:00.800 I don't have one.

02:04:02.640 I'm just whatever.

02:04:03.840 Okay.

02:04:04.080 So you'll like – you'll date women.

02:04:05.260 You'll date men.

02:04:05.920 Yeah.

02:04:06.260 Okay.

02:04:06.620 What about you?

02:04:07.420 Bisexual.

02:04:08.140 Okay.

02:04:08.320 Is your current – you're in a relationship –

02:04:10.800 With a man.

02:04:11.180 With a man.

02:04:11.580 Okay.

02:04:11.800 What about you?

02:04:12.860 Personally, I don't like labels, but –

02:04:16.520 Just a little closer to the mic, if you could.

02:04:18.840 A little closer.

02:04:19.360 I personally don't like labels, so I go by anything.

02:04:26.320 Okay.

02:04:26.880 All of the above.

02:04:27.800 What about you?

02:04:28.320 Yeah.

02:04:28.620 Straight.

02:04:29.080 Straight?

02:04:29.400 Okay.

02:04:30.080 Straight.

02:04:30.860 Okay.

02:04:31.140 What about you?

02:04:31.560 Straight.

02:04:32.320 All right.

02:04:32.880 That's cool.

02:04:34.580 I wanted to – oh, for you.

02:04:38.420 I noticed – I wanted to ask, you have armpit hair.

02:04:45.920 Okay.

02:04:47.400 I do.

02:04:49.440 Does anybody else here have armpit hair?

02:04:51.760 Like, you know.

02:04:52.920 I mean, all women naturally grow armpit hair.

02:04:54.600 Well, Brian, I have a question about that.

02:04:57.040 Oh, okay.

02:04:57.680 Okay.

02:04:58.040 So what do you think of pubic hair?

02:05:00.100 What – like, what do you mean?

02:05:03.740 Like, if a woman has pubic hair, would you care?

02:05:07.380 What are we talking about?

02:05:08.380 Like, full bush jungle?

02:05:10.060 What are we talking about?

02:05:10.560 I mean, because, like, clearly you care about armpit hair.

02:05:13.740 So, like, would you care if a woman has pubic hair?

02:05:16.780 If you were still going to –

02:05:17.200 I mean, I didn't even give my position on armpit hair, but I'll tell you my preference.

02:05:23.180 I prefer minimal or bare.

02:05:26.940 Landing strip.

02:05:27.480 Okay.

02:05:27.820 That's valid.

02:05:28.760 Landing strip.

02:05:29.560 Yeah.

02:05:29.680 That's valid.

02:05:31.000 Yeah.

02:05:31.500 That's my preference.

02:05:33.660 It's okay if women have preferences, too, on that, you know.

02:05:37.140 But I was curious, has that ever been an issue with dating?

02:05:41.240 That's never been an issue with me.

02:05:42.860 Does your man like it?

02:05:43.480 Oh, I was –

02:05:44.340 No?

02:05:44.700 You weren't talking to me.

02:05:46.700 I was just giving my opinion.

02:05:48.100 That's all good.

02:05:48.880 No one I've ever been with has expressed –

02:05:51.620 Can we see it, by the way?

02:05:54.920 No one I've been with has ever expressed any frustration with it.

02:05:58.380 And sometimes I'll get curious and I'll ask and be like, does this bother you?

02:06:02.540 Or how long have you had it like that?

02:06:03.840 You know what?

02:06:04.200 I did shave my armpits for a little bit.

02:06:06.400 Like –

02:06:07.380 What made you want to –

02:06:08.760 Yeah.

02:06:09.160 Well, I started shaving them because that's what my mom told me I was to do.

02:06:14.240 Society does, yeah.

02:06:14.460 And then I was like sick of it.

02:06:17.700 Do you shave your legs?

02:06:18.960 I do because I like how it feels when my legs are shaved.

02:06:22.600 I don't like how it feels when my armpits are shaved.

02:06:25.240 That's really all there is to it, yeah.

02:06:27.120 I'm just curious.

02:06:28.060 Yeah.

02:06:29.080 Cool.

02:06:29.740 Yeah.

02:06:30.380 Whatever makes you happy.

02:06:32.020 And let's see here.

02:06:35.840 Okay.

02:06:36.480 Oh, who here has a septum piercing?

02:06:38.800 We got one.

02:06:39.720 We got two.

02:06:40.840 Anybody else?

02:06:41.500 Septum piercing?

02:06:42.020 I used to.

02:06:43.440 Have you guys, you two, encountered men who dislike the septum piercing?

02:06:49.820 Because I have heard, you know, nose ring theory, septum ring theory.

02:06:52.980 I've heard some complaints from men.

02:06:54.800 Yeah, I've heard about that before.

02:06:55.740 Heard some complaints.

02:06:57.580 I don't think all guys have an issue with it, but just curious your own experience.

02:07:01.280 Any issues?

02:07:03.140 Okay.

02:07:03.460 So I actually just got mine last month.

02:07:05.720 Oh, it's new.

02:07:06.320 Okay.

02:07:06.520 But before, when I was in high school, when I wanted one, my boyfriend at the time told

02:07:11.380 me that I would look ugly with it if I had gotten it.

02:07:13.780 And so I kind of was just like, okay, I won't get it anymore.

02:07:15.800 But then I, you know, turned 18 and was like, I can get whatever I want.

02:07:20.120 So I finally decided just to get it.

02:07:21.420 But I did have problems with it before.

02:07:23.120 Okay.

02:07:23.420 But that was when I didn't have it.

02:07:25.060 All right.

02:07:25.340 What about you?

02:07:26.180 Any issues?

02:07:27.220 No, this is boring.

02:07:28.620 I've no one has ever said they don't like it.

02:07:31.740 And I have also asked and been like, do you wish I didn't have nose piercings?

02:07:36.500 And people usually just say that they suit me.

02:07:39.440 Well, you're a very pretty girl.

02:07:40.620 So I don't think it matters.

02:07:41.620 Oh, thank you.

02:07:42.780 For all the women here at the panel, would you have an issue if a guy had a preference

02:07:49.180 like he didn't want to date a girl with nose piercings?

02:07:52.960 Do you think that that's immature?

02:07:55.020 Do you think it's unreasonable, silly preference to have?

02:07:59.420 Your thoughts.

02:08:00.340 So I could see why they wouldn't want that.

02:08:05.820 Because when I used to have way more piercings, my ex, his hair was really curly.

02:08:13.640 And when we were like making out and stuff, my piercings would get caught on his hair.

02:08:18.040 And so we would have to, we would literally have to cut his hair and he would get pissed.

02:08:22.560 Oh, he would get caught.

02:08:23.900 Yeah, we'd get caught in his hair.

02:08:26.220 Oh, shit.

02:08:26.460 Yeah, that's a weird.

02:08:27.360 Did it ever yank?

02:08:28.620 Yes.

02:08:29.360 So it hurt you?

02:08:30.680 Well, it hurt me and it hurt him more.

02:08:33.800 Because of the hair?

02:08:34.740 Yeah.

02:08:35.700 Ah, okay.

02:08:36.420 Yeah, so that's why I barely have piercings now.

02:08:39.600 Yeah.

02:08:40.140 Yeah.

02:08:41.100 That checks out.

02:08:42.560 I don't know.

02:08:43.700 Okay.

02:08:44.480 Anybody else?

02:08:45.500 You know, Daniela, is it kind of immature for a guy, you know, to care about that?

02:08:50.700 I don't really care.

02:08:52.260 I mean, there's a lot of preferences.

02:08:54.180 So it's, I'm not like too nitpicky about other people's.

02:08:58.300 Okay.

02:08:58.840 Sure.

02:08:59.080 I think, I think honestly, like that makes, I think that's fine.

02:09:03.920 Sometimes when people have a lot of piercings, I think that can be like a bit of a turnoff

02:09:09.540 for people.

02:09:10.080 And I really don't think that's like immature.

02:09:11.900 Just some people don't.

02:09:13.880 Same with like tattoos.

02:09:14.760 Some people really don't like when people have a lot of tattoos.

02:09:17.940 That's just, I think that's kind of an extreme to not date someone because of it.

02:09:22.660 Like if you're really into them, but they have a nose piercing, that's so bizarre to me,

02:09:26.220 but I wouldn't necessarily like be offended.

02:09:29.000 I'd be like, okay.

02:09:30.200 Okay.

02:09:30.980 Do you think as it relates to tattoos, do you guys, what would you say about a guy who

02:09:39.620 didn't want to date a girl because of tattoos?

02:09:44.760 Would you take an issue with it or no?

02:09:46.300 I mean, if it's like tattoos, because.

02:09:51.620 Oh, sorry.

02:09:51.900 Hold on.

02:09:52.160 There's a chat coming through.

02:09:52.880 I'll be right back.

02:09:53.400 George donated $200.

02:09:55.780 I understand what chair one is saying about guns and having better control.

02:10:00.660 Unfortunately, criminals have illegal underground weapon manufacturing sites.

02:10:05.800 So criminals will always have access to them.

02:10:10.320 Yeah.

02:10:10.760 And I think the issue there is how many guns are in circulation.

02:10:13.160 And I wish more could be done to stop underground weapon manufacturing sites.

02:10:17.540 That's why I don't think we should bang guns.

02:10:21.140 Okay.

02:10:22.180 What years were World War I?

02:10:24.320 Starting with you.

02:10:25.740 World War I.

02:10:27.020 That was in the 19th century.

02:10:31.240 Like.

02:10:32.460 Specifically what year?

02:10:33.300 I don't remember the exact years of World War I.

02:10:35.060 That was sophomore year history.

02:10:36.620 Guess.

02:10:38.800 Guess.

02:10:39.360 Is this a super chat?

02:10:40.380 Is this like.

02:10:40.780 No, this is just me.

02:10:43.360 Coming in hot.

02:10:45.120 Yeah.

02:10:45.660 No.

02:10:47.260 Okay.

02:10:47.620 That was after the guy in Austria got killed and then it caught.

02:10:51.560 Okay.

02:10:53.780 Just guess.

02:10:59.900 1900?

02:11:00.260 1900?

02:11:01.820 So just 1900 to.

02:11:04.220 I don't have an exact estimate.

02:11:05.580 I forget World War I history.

02:11:07.660 I know a lot more about World War II history.

02:11:10.760 No.

02:11:11.240 So just 1900.

02:11:12.260 Like before the 1910s is what you're saying?

02:11:14.700 Yeah.

02:11:15.420 Okay.

02:11:15.720 What about you?

02:11:17.240 If you know it and you know for sure, don't answer.

02:11:20.280 Just tell me that you know it.

02:11:21.900 Oh.

02:11:22.720 So do you know it for sure?

02:11:24.180 No, but.

02:11:24.840 Okay.

02:11:25.040 I think I know when it ends.

02:11:27.400 When?

02:11:28.580 Yeah.

02:11:29.120 Closer to the mic.

02:11:30.020 Oh, which one ends 1945?

02:11:32.320 That's World War II.

02:11:33.220 Two?

02:11:33.560 So it has to be before.

02:11:36.260 Yeah.

02:11:36.680 I think you're pretty close then.

02:11:39.120 So.

02:11:40.180 Like 1910s.

02:11:41.800 Okay.

02:11:42.140 What about you?

02:11:44.420 Sorry.

02:11:45.480 I honestly.

02:11:47.940 They asked me this question last time I was here.

02:11:50.540 You don't remember?

02:11:51.240 And I didn't know.

02:11:54.720 1920s.

02:11:55.200 I don't know.

02:11:55.880 History books lie.

02:11:57.080 Okay.

02:11:57.300 What about you?

02:11:59.520 1915 to 1920.

02:12:00.760 I don't know.

02:12:02.040 I was going to say 1910s.

02:12:04.400 Okay.

02:12:06.620 Don't hate me.

02:12:07.500 Can we elaborate?

02:12:09.360 World War I.

02:12:10.000 So the years that World War I started and the year that it ended.

02:12:15.660 World War I.

02:12:16.360 1920s high key.

02:12:21.000 Okay.

02:12:21.380 Next.

02:12:22.720 I have no idea.

02:12:23.620 I saw one of the podcasts when you guys talked about this question.

02:12:27.320 I don't remember the answer.

02:12:29.000 Guess.

02:12:29.740 I don't know.

02:12:30.160 1910.

02:12:30.620 I have no idea.

02:12:32.740 Decade?

02:12:34.260 Did you say 1910?

02:12:35.580 Yes.

02:12:36.100 Okay.

02:12:36.740 Next.

02:12:37.100 Like 1912.

02:12:40.160 I don't know.

02:12:41.180 I want to say 1840.

02:12:42.420 Okay.

02:12:42.980 Next.

02:12:43.660 Yeah.

02:12:43.900 I was going to say like 1913 or 1915.

02:12:47.940 Some of you were close.

02:12:49.060 It's 1914 to 1918.

02:12:51.180 Okay.

02:12:51.820 Okay.

02:12:52.020 Yeah.

02:12:52.260 What about World War II?

02:12:53.520 You know it.

02:12:54.540 It's like 19.

02:12:55.640 It's in the first half of the 1940s.

02:12:57.580 Yeah.

02:12:58.060 Okay.

02:12:58.400 What about you?

02:13:00.880 Same.

02:13:01.820 I don't know.

02:13:02.340 It's not too many years between 1940 and 1945.

02:13:07.100 Okay.

02:13:08.300 I remember that from the last episode.

02:13:10.540 Yeah.

02:13:10.720 1940.

02:13:11.900 Around that area.

02:13:13.080 Okay.

02:13:13.920 1940.

02:13:14.400 I mean, you'll.

02:13:15.140 Yeah.

02:13:16.660 But like specific years, does anyone know the exact answer?

02:13:21.360 Is it 1939 or is it 19, or is it in the 40s?

02:13:24.480 I always mix it up.

02:13:25.460 I think it is 1939 to 1945.

02:13:27.520 It started at 39.

02:13:28.500 Yeah.

02:13:28.980 Okay.

02:13:29.260 Name three countries.

02:13:32.620 Just three countries and you can't repeat answers.

02:13:36.460 By three countries in general?

02:13:38.820 Just, yes.

02:13:39.620 Three countries.

02:13:40.680 Brazil.

02:13:41.620 No, no, no.

02:13:42.200 I'm starting with Ireland.

02:13:43.520 Okay.

02:13:44.080 Bulgaria.

02:13:46.740 The Philippines.

02:13:48.360 And Estonia.

02:13:50.360 Okay.

02:13:50.820 You?

02:13:51.480 Thailand.

02:13:53.900 Korea.

02:13:55.260 Japan.

02:13:56.960 Colombia.

02:13:57.660 United States.

02:13:58.820 And Canada.

02:14:01.460 China.

02:14:02.540 Australia.

02:14:02.960 And, um.

02:14:05.100 Africa.

02:14:06.520 Wait, what?

02:14:07.620 Africa.

02:14:08.080 Africa's a continent.

02:14:09.040 Oh, I'm sorry.

02:14:10.020 Um.

02:14:13.260 Jordan.

02:14:14.200 The country.

02:14:15.280 Okay.

02:14:16.120 Chile.

02:14:16.900 Vietnam.

02:14:18.360 Norway.

02:14:19.680 Okay.

02:14:22.120 Sichels.

02:14:23.080 Italy.

02:14:24.020 And.

02:14:25.000 Gegent.

02:14:27.800 Wait, the last one.

02:14:29.460 Egypt?

02:14:30.120 Egypt.

02:14:30.500 Okay, I thought you said something else.

02:14:32.940 I was trying to pronounce Sichels.

02:14:35.420 Okay.

02:14:36.180 Next.

02:14:37.260 Bolivia.

02:14:38.060 Georgia.

02:14:38.700 El Salvador.

02:14:39.900 Next.

02:14:41.400 Indonesia.

02:14:43.300 New Zealand.

02:14:45.280 Hong Kong.

02:14:47.160 Wait, no.

02:14:47.780 Country.

02:14:48.560 Oh, my God.

02:14:48.920 I'm so stupid.

02:14:49.620 I'm so sorry.

02:14:50.860 Um.

02:14:53.040 Was Philippines said?

02:14:54.240 Yeah, that was already said.

02:14:55.440 Um.

02:14:55.940 I don't know what was already said.

02:15:02.480 Australia.

02:15:03.460 I think that was said, too.

02:15:05.520 Um.

02:15:11.880 Shanghai.

02:15:12.820 Wait, I don't know.

02:15:13.860 Can you leave the mic where it was, please?

02:15:15.940 Oh, where it was.

02:15:16.540 Yeah, sorry.

02:15:18.440 Uh, what?

02:15:18.900 Shanghai?

02:15:19.780 I don't know.

02:15:20.680 That's a city.

02:15:21.620 That's a city.

02:15:22.320 But, I don't.

02:15:23.540 Can I pass her one?

02:15:25.500 No.

02:15:25.800 Sorry, I'm really tired.

02:15:26.780 I'm not stupid, I swear.

02:15:28.040 No, you're good.

02:15:28.620 You're good.

02:15:28.760 I'm like, I'm not stupid.

02:15:30.060 I promise.

02:15:30.740 But, we're econ and accounting.

02:15:32.020 That's like.

02:15:32.460 I just, I'm good at math.

02:15:33.680 Oh, yeah.

02:15:34.360 You need to bat through.

02:15:35.400 I already said Indonesia, so.

02:15:38.880 No one really thinks of that.

02:15:39.740 Okay, so what were your answers?

02:15:41.680 New Zealand and Indonesia.

02:15:43.380 I just don't know what was already said.

02:15:45.220 One more.

02:15:45.860 I mean, there's.

02:15:46.360 I mean.

02:15:46.720 There's a lot of countries.

02:15:47.960 There is a lot of countries.

02:15:48.960 You got this.

02:15:49.740 Oh, my God.

02:15:50.440 Think about the countries in the United States.

02:15:52.420 Like, what's around.

02:15:53.200 Wait, there's only.

02:15:53.920 Wait, what?

02:15:54.760 I mean, not the countries in the United States.

02:15:56.100 Sorry.

02:15:57.200 Wait.

02:15:57.940 Like, around the United States.

02:15:59.420 It's like, think of the map.

02:16:01.200 Okay.

02:16:01.780 Sorry.

02:16:02.360 I'm really.

02:16:02.680 Yeah.

02:16:02.980 Yeah, okay.

02:16:03.460 Next.

02:16:03.760 So, Turkey, Kazakhstan, and Romania.

02:16:08.580 Okay.

02:16:09.400 Trying to think of more questions.

02:16:11.940 Everyone names one continent.

02:16:14.360 We might not get to everyone because there's a lot of people.

02:16:17.060 Asia.

02:16:18.640 North America.

02:16:20.000 South America.

02:16:24.040 Europe.

02:16:25.360 Yeah.

02:16:26.200 Africa.

02:16:27.300 Okay.

02:16:27.880 Australia.

02:16:30.400 Asia.

02:16:31.960 No.

02:16:32.920 Antarctica.

02:16:34.180 Good job.

02:16:37.800 I'm trying to think of more rapid fire questions.

02:16:40.040 What are the other rapid fire questions?

02:16:41.380 Make a machine gun noise.

02:16:42.200 Make a machine gun noise.

02:16:44.560 Okay.

02:16:45.140 What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?

02:16:48.500 It would depend on how much I'm making, but I'll say off the bat, given that I assume

02:16:53.020 that I'll be making above six figures, I would say also above six figures.

02:16:57.880 So.

02:16:58.380 What's that though?

02:16:59.420 Yeah.

02:16:59.840 Like 100,000 to 100,000?

02:17:01.000 Sure.

02:17:01.320 100,000.

02:17:02.140 Okay.

02:17:03.120 What about you?

02:17:03.920 Yeah.

02:17:04.260 I'm on the same page.

02:17:05.380 Hopefully it'd be around how much I make and maybe down the line around 100,000.

02:17:11.040 I'd probably say 50, honestly.

02:17:14.800 50,000?

02:17:15.380 Yeah.

02:17:15.860 Okay.

02:17:17.220 130,000.

02:17:19.160 Probably 100,000.

02:17:21.600 I don't really have a number.

02:17:23.240 I, doesn't, not something I really thought about.

02:17:25.060 Not like, um, like a range.

02:17:29.180 Like, would you want him to make more than 50 grand a year?

02:17:32.220 Sure.

02:17:32.700 Yeah.

02:17:33.120 I mean.

02:17:33.480 More than 100?

02:17:34.560 It doesn't matter to me really, honestly.

02:17:37.680 Could he work at like McDonald's?

02:17:40.740 Huh?

02:17:41.120 Could he work at McDonald's?

02:17:42.360 I mean, my ex, like we both just worked in like basically a fast food establishment.

02:17:47.100 So you wouldn't mind if he worked at McDonald's?

02:17:49.120 Probably not so much.

02:17:50.220 I mean, as long as we can survive, because even I don't make that much, to be honest.

02:17:54.280 So it's, money's never been like a huge factor for me.

02:17:57.260 Like.

02:17:58.300 Okay.

02:17:59.020 What about you?

02:18:01.280 Um, enough to be comfortable.

02:18:04.760 So maybe like 150 to 250.

02:18:08.940 Okay.

02:18:09.660 What about you?

02:18:10.500 I would say 30,000 to 40,000, honestly.

02:18:14.440 So the highest number we got was 250.

02:18:17.440 Where do you live?

02:18:19.240 To the person that said, you said 150 to 250.

02:18:22.440 Sorry, I don't remember your name.

02:18:23.620 I live here.

02:18:24.780 Santa Barbara?

02:18:25.780 Well, like I live here currently, yes.

02:18:27.780 But I'm like a student, so I'm not there yet.

02:18:30.480 Do you plan on staying here?

02:18:32.980 Um.

02:18:35.240 Yes and no.

02:18:36.100 I might move to the Bay Area or maybe New York.

02:18:39.820 I don't know.

02:18:40.680 Whatever job opportunity.

02:18:44.120 Okay.

02:18:44.520 Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?

02:18:48.240 Is it a black bear or a brown bear?

02:18:56.520 It's totally random.

02:18:58.260 Okay, that means it's most likely a black bear because they're more common and black bears are mostly benign.

02:19:03.340 No, there's no like more likely to spawn.

02:19:07.660 There is more likely.

02:19:08.800 Black bears are more common than brown bears.

02:19:10.460 Random, random, random.

02:19:11.240 So then it's probably a black bear.

02:19:12.440 It's probably a bear.

02:19:15.980 It's random.

02:19:16.980 I'll take the bear.

02:19:18.640 Okay.

02:19:19.380 What about you?

02:19:20.960 Uh, I'd probably take the random guy.

02:19:25.060 Okay.

02:19:26.400 Yeah, I'd take the random guy too.

02:19:28.860 Okay.

02:19:29.460 Yeah, the random guy.

02:19:31.040 I'd take the random guy.

02:19:32.940 Okay.

02:19:33.480 You?

02:19:33.760 The man.

02:19:34.640 Yeah?

02:19:35.080 The bear.

02:19:36.940 100% the man.

02:19:38.480 So you and you said bear.

02:19:41.700 I thought I did clip so hard.

02:19:46.900 Anything high on the income one?

02:19:49.160 $250 for...

02:19:52.080 I'm sorry.

02:19:52.680 For Bella?

02:19:52.980 I don't know.

02:19:55.560 Nothing really there for me.

02:19:56.740 Bella, how much do you think you'll end up earning?

02:19:59.260 I don't know.

02:19:59.920 I have to get my degree first.

02:20:01.860 Well, I mean, if you had to just...

02:20:03.500 I'm sure you maybe have done some research.

02:20:05.200 Yeah.

02:20:05.420 Like, okay, this profession pays this much.

02:20:07.820 Well, realistically, I want to be an entrepreneur.

02:20:10.500 So, like, I would want to have a stable job to fund that eventually.

02:20:15.160 But it's not a need for $150 to $250.

02:20:17.640 That's just a, like, at the end of the day.

02:20:19.980 Anybody pick bear?

02:20:21.000 Or was it...

02:20:21.700 Yeah.

02:20:22.460 Who?

02:20:23.320 Her and her.

02:20:25.600 Shona and Bella.

02:20:27.400 All right.

02:20:27.980 I'll bite.

02:20:28.440 I'm not going to linger on the bear thing really quick, but I'll bite really quick.

02:20:31.000 Why bear?

02:20:31.700 Why not man?

02:20:32.860 Well, okay, let's say I'm, like, hiking in Alaska.

02:20:34.960 I probably want to see, like, a bear from the distance.

02:20:37.200 You have somebody from Alaska here, but have you hiked?

02:20:39.720 No, I just was in Alaska this summer.

02:20:41.500 I saw so many bears when I was out, and it was so nice.

02:20:43.980 Okay.

02:20:44.200 They're so nice to look at.

02:20:45.220 I don't want to see a bear.

02:20:45.420 Okay, so you were there in Alaska.

02:20:46.560 Yeah, it's great.

02:20:47.020 You'd rather come across random bears?

02:20:48.400 I wanted to come across the bears.

02:20:49.760 Why is that?

02:20:50.200 Are you kidding?

02:20:50.620 Because why do you think I'm going to Alaska?

02:20:52.740 I want to see the wildlife.

02:20:53.960 Mm-hmm.

02:20:54.700 Mm-hmm.

02:20:56.020 Well, you're, like, stuck in the woods.

02:20:58.380 Well, okay, if you're asking me if I would rather come across, from a close proximity,

02:21:02.580 a dangerous, aggressive brown bear or a safe, normal man, then sure, I would choose the man.

02:21:07.480 The question is you don't know, right?

02:21:08.920 So the bear could be safe.

02:21:10.440 The man could be dangerous.

02:21:11.860 The man could be safe.

02:21:12.720 The bear could be dangerous.

02:21:14.560 Let me come across the bear.

02:21:15.860 It's totally random.

02:21:17.140 I can.

02:21:17.540 Do I have bear spray on me?

02:21:18.860 No.

02:21:19.900 No.

02:21:20.740 Do I have pepper spray on me?

02:21:22.200 You have your fake nails on you.

02:21:25.140 I don't have fake nails.

02:21:26.140 In the hypothetical, you have fake nails.

02:21:29.180 And they're pink.

02:21:30.080 Okay, I'll bite.

02:21:30.760 Bear.

02:21:31.320 Sure.

02:21:31.420 Okay, bear.

02:21:32.100 All right.

02:21:32.480 And, Bella, why do you pick bear?

02:21:33.680 Why not men?

02:21:34.200 Well, I'm from Sacramento.

02:21:36.040 I go to Tahoe a lot, so there's always bears.

02:21:39.180 And, like, they're all just roaming around.

02:21:41.420 Aren't there also a bunch of men in Sacramento?

02:21:44.560 No, I was saying Tahoe.

02:21:46.200 Well, okay.

02:21:46.860 But aren't there also a lot of men in Tahoe, too?

02:21:48.400 I mean, there's always men and women.

02:21:49.300 Yeah, but, like, we have a cabin, so, like, there's not men I don't know there.

02:21:54.880 There's bears.

02:21:56.260 So I'm, like, more, I'm, like, okay with it.

02:21:58.460 You'd rather fight off a bear than a man?

02:21:59.940 Well, I didn't know we were fighting.

02:22:01.180 Well, they're not really aggressive.

02:22:02.880 They just kind of stay there.

02:22:03.800 If they're hungry.

02:22:04.840 And we also didn't specify the bear also.

02:22:08.380 I mean, you're going to fight a 1,000-pound bear or a 120-pound man?

02:22:11.340 I didn't realize we were fighting.

02:22:13.580 But it's, like, you go to the forest and you're, like, prepared for bears.

02:22:17.280 Like, men I get are, like, more unsuspecting.

02:22:21.100 But if you're, like, my idea was if I was, like, going to go hiking and I would prepare

02:22:27.600 for bears and the same preparation applies for whatever else I see, I feel like.

02:22:33.540 So I don't know.

02:22:34.340 I think I could just take on a man better, maybe.

02:22:36.960 Well, yeah, facts.

02:22:38.060 Sure.

02:22:38.200 I mean, it's pretty cut and dry.

02:22:39.520 And when you come across a bear, they're probably going to, I mean, if they're hungry enough,

02:22:42.560 they're going to eat you, you know, they're going to attack you, or if they're young is

02:22:46.220 around or whatever, you know, like, yeah, I'd rather fight off a man than a bear all

02:22:49.620 day.

02:22:49.640 You can also run away from a man much easier than a bear.

02:22:53.520 Yeah.

02:22:53.540 Yeah, facts.

02:22:54.360 I feel like.

02:22:54.980 You're not going to win the bear answer.

02:22:57.200 Thank you.

02:22:57.560 All right.

02:22:58.320 Let's see if we have any chats here to get caught up on.

02:23:03.100 Would you rather be trapped in a cage with a bear or a man?

02:23:06.440 Um, Bella, would you rather be trapped in a cage with a random bear or a random man?

02:23:12.520 And you get out of the, I don't know, after 10 minutes.

02:23:14.500 I feel like if the, I want to be friends with a bear because I like animals.

02:23:18.020 I'm not even trying to be funny too.

02:23:19.640 Like I would be more scared of a man, a random man.

02:23:22.380 Like that's scary.

02:23:23.840 No, cage.

02:23:25.380 Yeah.

02:23:25.600 Trapped in a cage.

02:23:26.340 But I feel like there's, I've met really friendly bears throughout my life.

02:23:29.260 I've been like camping all my life.

02:23:30.660 Do they introduce themselves?

02:23:31.300 Hey, I'm young.

02:23:31.780 Yeah, they do.

02:23:32.960 Okay.

02:23:33.280 I'm just kidding.

02:23:33.780 But no, I get what you guys are saying about fighting off a man.

02:23:37.280 It's a lot easier to run away, but I also like bears.

02:23:40.480 Okay.

02:23:41.320 Uh, let's see here.

02:23:42.700 I'm not, not much pushback to give on the bear thing, I guess.

02:23:46.320 Uh, if your man made just around a hundred thousand Felicity, why don't you sit there

02:23:49.380 for a moment while we, uh, wait for her, uh, tears, sweat, blood, and worked hard every

02:23:55.100 day to further his career and his life with you.

02:23:57.220 Would you bow to him?

02:23:58.680 Okay.

02:23:58.980 They want to do the bow thing.

02:24:00.220 I'll wait till Sean is back for that.

02:24:01.860 Uh, bring him a beer when you hear his truck.

02:24:05.120 Absolutely.

02:24:06.200 So, uh, I'll pull it back up when she's here, but, uh, and then we'll wait for everybody's

02:24:13.260 response.

02:24:13.760 But while she's gone, I have some pre-show notes that we're going to dive into.

02:24:18.000 So, so we have, let's see, her, oh, wait, hold on.

02:24:30.420 I'll let this come through.

02:24:32.020 Abzil's donated $200.

02:24:34.160 Thank you, man.

02:24:34.800 Third and final Dono.

02:24:36.440 Love is always Brian.

02:24:38.220 Question time.

02:24:39.900 Brian, are you a fan of Michael Jackson?

02:24:42.060 And what is your favorite song?

02:24:45.600 I like his music.

02:24:47.200 I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Michael Jackson.

02:24:50.100 He's, he's got some, some great hits.

02:24:53.000 Uh, favorite Michael Jackson song.

02:24:56.720 Uh, Billie Jean.

02:24:57.820 Brian, be listening to him in the shower.

02:25:02.840 Oh, these?

02:25:03.660 Yeah, just put it on.

02:25:04.520 Can you put it on the pillar behind you or whatever?

02:25:06.400 Like, uh, there's, that works.

02:25:10.600 Thank you.

02:25:11.600 All right.

02:25:12.880 Let's see.

02:25:14.600 Uh, hold on.

02:25:18.700 Uh, Daniela, you're from Alaska.

02:25:21.940 Have you, I mean, you said you haven't really dated at all.

02:25:25.080 So, uh, have you dated in Alaska?

02:25:28.420 No.

02:25:28.840 But you haven't dated is the thing.

02:25:30.380 It's different in Alaska.

02:25:32.260 Are the guys different?

02:25:33.820 Oh, yeah, totally.

02:25:35.040 I like them better there.

02:25:36.860 You like the Alaskan men better?

02:25:38.500 Why is that?

02:25:39.140 My friends make jokes about like, oh, lumberjacks, like manly men.

02:25:43.040 But it's, I think it's true.

02:25:44.620 Just the environment.

02:25:45.940 I think they have more rougher qualities.

02:25:49.640 Maybe like, I guess it depends still.

02:25:52.060 But like, I think I just like that better.

02:25:54.420 Yeah.

02:25:54.720 What, what's the, if you could list maybe two or three differences, like what do you

02:25:59.740 see with, cause you're in California, right?

02:26:01.920 Have you been to California before, by the way?

02:26:03.700 I mean, yeah, I visited, but I've been here since my first year.

02:26:07.620 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:26:08.120 You're, you're 20.

02:26:08.860 So you're in your third year, right?

02:26:10.720 Okay.

02:26:10.960 So you've been now here for like going into your third year though.

02:26:13.820 Yeah.

02:26:14.100 Yes.

02:26:15.420 Differences between Alaskan men and California men.

02:26:20.260 I feel like they're willing to do more, like bigger on acts of service.

02:26:26.720 Okay.

02:26:27.320 And they're like, they'll do more favors.

02:26:30.960 They'll make the initiative, you know?

02:26:33.560 Okay.

02:26:34.120 Set the pace, I guess.

02:26:35.540 But here it's like, I think guys kind of to a degree expect you to, or at least I know

02:26:41.140 that guys like girls making the first move and everything.

02:26:43.740 I get the appeal, but I think maybe just my preference is not that.

02:26:50.340 Okay.

02:26:50.640 And would you say, are the men more masculine in Alaska?

02:26:57.500 They can like be scrawnier, but it's just like the aura is definitely, I don't know.

02:27:02.640 I think it's, they're more masculine.

02:27:04.860 Okay.

02:27:05.240 The aura, the Alaskan aura.

02:27:08.020 Yeah.

02:27:08.440 Aura, aura Borealis.

02:27:12.200 What, what, how would you describe then if the men in Alaska are more masculine, more

02:27:16.960 initiative, how would you describe California men?

02:27:20.380 Are there any negative things that you could say?

02:27:23.080 Yeah.

02:27:23.680 I think they don't care about like doing, and this is like not all of them, of course.

02:27:30.740 Sure, sure.

02:27:31.260 But I think a pattern that I've recognized is that a lot of them don't, I think their

02:27:38.620 main interest is, their attraction is primarily based on like physical appearances, and then

02:27:46.620 the interest comes after that.

02:27:48.700 But back home, I feel like it was the other way around.

02:27:52.300 Sure.

02:27:52.560 They were, they were, you're saying the men in Alaska were more interested in the other

02:27:59.580 things that you could bring to the table.

02:28:02.020 Yeah.

02:28:02.560 Like personality or.

02:28:03.760 At least that came first priority.

02:28:06.120 What are some of the things that they wanted women to bring in Alaska?

02:28:11.360 Not even like to bring, but in terms of character, intelligence, like interests, stuff like that.

02:28:17.400 All right, cool.

02:28:18.640 Um, we have a lot of people here who are single.

02:28:22.800 So to those of you who are single, I wish to ask right after this message, Pasty George.

02:28:29.220 Pasty George donated $200.

02:28:32.400 City folk never realized the difference between city bears and wild bears.

02:28:37.400 I was attacked by a black bear one year when I was out trapping.

02:28:41.500 Luckily, I had bear mace with me, which saved me.

02:28:44.900 Last year, there was a black bear that was kicking it on UCSB campus.

02:28:50.260 I was out trapping.

02:28:51.260 Oh.

02:28:52.700 Trapping.

02:28:54.580 Uh, well, like last school year, I guess.

02:28:57.700 I think it was in the, I don't know, spring or something.

02:29:00.040 But, um, yeah, man, black bears killed.

02:29:04.620 A woman was killed in California recently, like a year ago by a black bear.

02:29:07.740 Uh, question for the single women here.

02:29:11.180 What does it mean in 2025 to actually be single?

02:29:18.120 Because people say, oh, I'm single.

02:29:20.140 It's like, well, you start digging a little bit.

02:29:22.120 Well, you know, I'm seeing this guy and I got that roster, blah, blah, blah.

02:29:26.960 Um, Shona, you say you're single.

02:29:29.860 I just wanted to say men also kill women every year.

02:29:31.800 Anyway, I am single.

02:29:32.760 Yes.

02:29:32.980 Thank you for, oh, my God, men.

02:29:36.980 Okay, cool.

02:29:37.780 Women kill men, too.

02:29:38.660 I said.

02:29:39.160 More men kill more women.

02:29:40.060 Sure.

02:29:40.480 We'll grant it.

02:29:41.420 We'll grant it.

02:29:41.940 It's true.

02:29:42.240 It's a fact.

02:29:42.940 More men kill women.

02:29:43.920 Okay, well, more women kill babies.

02:29:45.820 And more men kill women than.

02:29:48.260 By the way, that's not, I'm not talking about abortion.

02:29:50.700 I'm talking about, um, infanticide.

02:29:53.920 So, like, already born children, women, women are more likely to kill children.

02:29:57.200 What are you asking about how I'm single?

02:29:59.300 Thank you.

02:29:59.660 Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

02:30:00.840 She doesn't want to engage there.

02:30:03.200 Well, look, you tried it.

02:30:04.740 You said, oh, Shona, you're keeping the conversation on politics.

02:30:07.400 I'm trying to shift it back to dating.

02:30:08.960 For everyone else's sake, I'm trying to be mindful.

02:30:10.840 By pointing out that men kill women?

02:30:12.580 Okay.

02:30:13.240 So.

02:30:13.700 Well, you're pointing out, you're talking about the man and the bear argument.

02:30:17.820 Well, I already passed it.

02:30:18.880 I passed it.

02:30:19.080 You're saying bears kill women.

02:30:20.300 I'm also saying men also kill women.

02:30:22.980 Well, I was responding to the super chat, and we were talking about bears.

02:30:27.840 My position that a woman was killed recently by a bear wouldn't, isn't contrary.

02:30:34.800 Like, it doesn't suggest that men don't kill women.

02:30:37.400 Okay.

02:30:37.700 So then me saying men kill women shouldn't be contrary to what you're saying.

02:30:40.420 Well, okay.

02:30:40.780 Should, uh, I don't know.

02:30:42.260 What else should we, you want to talk about?

02:30:43.880 Like.

02:30:44.460 Ask me the question about.

02:30:45.900 We should talk about the brain-eating amoeba.

02:30:48.120 That kills everybody.

02:30:49.980 In small quantities.

02:30:51.000 Right now, you're the brain-eating amoeba.

02:30:51.880 We're going to do a little switch, actually.

02:30:53.380 Wait.

02:30:53.680 Just, uh, you're going to come sit here.

02:30:56.060 And then when she comes back, she's going to take that seat, I guess.

02:30:59.360 Actually, you know what?

02:31:00.120 Here.

02:31:00.860 Musical chairs.

02:31:02.240 Bella, you're going to take that seat, and then you're going to take this seat, and then

02:31:05.620 she's going to be there.

02:31:06.280 All I was saying was bears cause harm, men cause harm.

02:31:10.020 It's not that one's super, super safe all the time.

02:31:13.260 Would you rather leave your child with a saber-toothed tiger or a woman?

02:31:21.920 A woman.

02:31:23.240 Okay.

02:31:23.980 I would do the same.

02:31:26.220 My criticism of the whole bear thing.

02:31:27.260 I was half joking with my whole bear argument earlier about like.

02:31:29.600 Yeah, just my criticism with the bear thing.

02:31:31.120 It's like, yeah, there's absolutely men who are violent and do all kinds of crazy crimes.

02:31:35.320 And there's, you know, men who kill, kill women.

02:31:39.300 And there's safe men, and there's dangerous bears, and there's bears that mind their own business.

02:31:42.560 But you're, the whole bear argument boils down to, okay, well, men are disproportionately

02:31:47.240 commit these crimes, more so than women, right?

02:31:49.600 Well, then it would just be, I could point out that women are more likely to kill infants.

02:31:55.680 And then if I were to ask this question, well, would you rather leave your newborn child with a woman or saber-toothed tiger?

02:32:02.420 It's like, despite women being more likely to kill children than saber-toothed tigers.

02:32:07.320 Well, hold on.

02:32:08.400 There's more women who kill children than do saber-toothed tigers.

02:32:12.340 I'd still leave my newborn child with a woman every single time.

02:32:18.620 In fact, even if she, like, previously murdered, I might even be more willing to leave my newborn child with a woman who's been convicted of murder than with a saber-toothed tiger.

02:32:29.540 Okay, so my whole take on the man and the bear thing is that the whole, like, essence of the hypothetical is just to say that, like, okay, like, bears, like, they want to, like, protect their cubs or whatever.

02:32:40.380 Like, they don't have the intention of causing, like, women harm.

02:32:43.680 Wait, that was funny.

02:32:44.520 Can we, can you pull that out?

02:32:46.460 Sorry, we got to read this one.

02:32:47.700 Normally, it's below the threshold, but fuck it.

02:32:49.520 Oh, God.

02:32:50.840 What's the essence of the bear thing, though?

02:32:53.000 It's to say that, like, men who cause women harm and a bear who causes a woman harm, they're doing it for two completely different reasons.

02:33:00.440 If it is the case that a man causes harm to a woman and a bear causes harm to a woman.

02:33:04.340 And it's to say that the way that men, a man could cause a woman harm if she's, if she's left alone in a forest could be a lot more disgusting than a way a bear could.

02:33:12.140 Sure.

02:33:12.720 But obviously, your point here is, like, the average man is not going to, like, maul a woman, whereas an aggressive bear could do that, right?

02:33:19.180 And so, obviously, if you look at it that way, then, sure, like, the, like, average, safe, normal man.

02:33:26.220 She's back.

02:33:30.500 No, she's going to stay there.

02:33:32.040 Okay.

02:33:34.140 Well, she's going to, what?

02:33:36.500 She, you're going to, you're going to be there, okay?

02:33:38.700 And then when she's, Bella's back, she's going to be there.

02:33:42.080 Would you rather cross paths with a random MS-13 gang member or a random ICE agent?

02:33:46.060 That's just for you.

02:33:46.760 A random ICE agent, which still doesn't mean I agree with everything ICE does.

02:33:53.100 Okay.

02:33:53.380 Thank you for your piano.

02:33:54.500 You're welcome.

02:33:54.800 I believe MS-13 gang members should be convicted.

02:33:59.500 The essence of the bear question.

02:34:02.880 I lost my track because there's musical chairs.

02:34:04.360 Obviously, I'm rational enough to say that the average man is not going to kill a woman, whereas bears are unpredictable and aggressive.

02:34:09.800 I mean, my position would simply be is, yes, there are absolutely men who commit crimes.

02:34:17.540 Who want to do really disgusting things to women.

02:34:19.140 Yeah, sure.

02:34:19.360 And worse than that.

02:34:20.360 They can, worse than murder.

02:34:21.300 Well, there's dispute there.

02:34:23.080 Worse than murder.

02:34:23.740 Yeah.

02:34:24.400 There are men who do things that are worse than murder to women.

02:34:25.960 Some women will make that assessment.

02:34:27.060 But a bear wouldn't do anything worse than just murder to a woman.

02:34:30.340 Right, sure.

02:34:30.820 And that's where the hypothetical comes in.

02:34:32.640 But again, like, obviously, being rational, the average man is not going to kill a woman.

02:34:35.620 I would argue, though, that if women encountered just as many bears as they did men, then, like, all women would just be dead.

02:34:46.060 So, like, all you women here have encountered thousands of men throughout your life, tens of thousands, maybe more, walked past them.

02:34:56.120 I would rather encounter a group of bears than a group of men who are, like, doing what men do to women in, like, Congo, for example.

02:35:04.700 Like, there's, like, cases of, like, mass, like, rape and killing that, like, that woman deal with in Congo, right?

02:35:10.760 Yeah, that's terrible.

02:35:11.620 Right.

02:35:12.020 Like, the men I've encountered in my life, like, I live in a privileged area.

02:35:15.700 Like, I'm safe.

02:35:16.420 But there's women who don't deal with safe groups of men.

02:35:19.860 Well, yeah, sure.

02:35:20.600 I mean, this hypothetical typically relates more so to, like, there's obviously different geographical regions and different nations which have way higher crime statistics than the United States.

02:35:31.360 Yeah.

02:35:31.820 And, in fact, there's other countries that have lower crime statistics than the United States.

02:35:36.500 But, ultimately, I do, I think it's, oh, the bow.

02:35:41.380 We have to do them.

02:35:43.740 That's right.

02:35:44.400 Thank you for pointing that out.

02:35:46.580 Okay.

02:35:46.980 Well, we'll, uh, oh, wait, the single thing.

02:35:50.120 Abzil's donated $200.

02:35:51.960 Okay.

02:35:52.480 We'll do the bow thing in just a second.

02:35:53.740 Third and final Dono, love as always, Brian.

02:35:56.380 Question time.

02:35:57.740 Question time.

02:35:58.600 Brian, are you a fan of Michael Jackson and what is your favorite song?

02:36:01.060 Wait.

02:36:01.520 Oh, my God.

02:36:02.140 This is not the right one.

02:36:03.700 Hold on.

02:36:04.260 I'm actually burnt.

02:36:04.900 I didn't really want you to answer that question.

02:36:06.180 It was, uh, okay.

02:36:12.420 I pulled the wrong one.

02:36:13.720 I'm sorry.

02:36:15.380 I'm going to have you read this next one that comes up in just a moment here.

02:36:18.560 And then Pasty has a message after that.

02:36:20.280 So, we have bow.

02:36:21.340 Then we have to go back to single.

02:36:22.400 If you're a man made just around $100,000 a year, tears, sweat, blood, and worked hard every day to further his career and life with you, would you bow to him?

02:36:32.740 Bring him a beer when you hear his truck?

02:36:35.420 So, we're going to ask that of the panel.

02:36:37.200 Um, and then Pasty George is coming in here.

02:36:39.820 Pasty George donated $200.

02:36:42.960 While it is true that a lot of women are killed by men every year, more male babies are killed by women via abortion every year.

02:36:50.640 More so in countries infected with feminism like America and Canada.

02:36:55.940 Pasty George is Canadian, by the way.

02:36:57.620 That's only the case.

02:36:58.620 You can only consider that murder so long as you believe abortion is murder, which is a completely different debate and topic.

02:37:04.760 And I don't believe it's murder, but anyway.

02:37:07.380 There is.

02:37:08.940 We're not, we're not going to have.

02:37:09.860 We don't have to get into it.

02:37:10.520 You can ask me the question about dating.

02:37:11.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:37:12.380 We're not going to have an abortion.

02:37:13.800 We're not going to have an abortion debate on the show.

02:37:16.020 Yeah.

02:37:16.760 That's okay.

02:37:17.740 Unfortunately.

02:37:18.640 But, uh, let's see here.

02:37:20.480 You can have it with Andrew, though, when he comes in.

02:37:22.420 Uh, let's see.

02:37:24.440 Oh, the bow thing.

02:37:25.880 And then there's the single thing, too.

02:37:27.500 Hmm.

02:37:28.220 Which I want to be on the phone.

02:37:31.140 Uh, okay.

02:37:32.460 So keep in mind the question that came in.

02:37:35.240 The guy makes $100,000 a year.

02:37:39.040 Tears, sweat, blood, works hard every day to further his career and his life with you.

02:37:43.800 Would you do a bow for him?

02:37:45.560 Now, we're going to show you.

02:37:46.420 We're going to demonstrate.

02:37:47.420 I, um, I took a video, uh, of my ex-girlfriend.

02:37:51.680 Uh, you know, just.

02:37:54.560 Wait, she's your ex now?

02:37:56.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:37:57.320 So you're single now?

02:37:59.220 Yeah, exactly.

02:38:00.140 Um, so I, I took a video, like, as an instruction manual for future girlfriends.

02:38:05.680 Because, like, I feel, you know, there's, like, a training process when you get a new girl.

02:38:09.780 Like, you gotta, here's how you fold my laundry.

02:38:12.600 Here's how you, you know.

02:38:13.700 Yeah, I mean, I hate that.

02:38:14.660 I hate that.

02:38:15.340 Like, you've got a bag of.

02:38:16.160 Having to relearn everything.

02:38:17.540 You've got a 25-pound bag of rice from Costco, and she's gonna, like, dip, like, the water-soaked scooper into it?

02:38:24.800 No.

02:38:25.440 Then you're gonna get, like, die from the rice thing.

02:38:31.060 Anyways, you gotta, look, there's, there's a program.

02:38:34.300 You gotta have.

02:38:36.060 Anyways, play the video, Nick.

02:38:37.800 Play the bow video.

02:38:38.980 I took it just so I could show this to my future girlfriends.

02:38:42.020 Oh, God.

02:38:42.560 Instruction manual.

02:38:44.020 Boom.

02:38:44.420 Boom.

02:38:44.660 Huge bow.

02:38:45.440 She has to bow as soon as I get home from work.

02:38:47.960 This was after a long podcast episode.

02:38:50.820 And, um, gotta do the laundry.

02:38:53.560 So, would you make your ex bow for you?

02:38:56.460 Well, she wants, they want to do it, okay?

02:38:59.640 But they wouldn't.

02:39:00.840 They want to do it.

02:39:01.980 But they wouldn't.

02:39:02.520 Look, she's got my dinner ready.

02:39:03.960 She cracks open a beer for me.

02:39:06.040 And then, um.

02:39:07.820 This is your dream life right here.

02:39:09.720 I actually, you see those tomatoes there?

02:39:12.280 They were just raw tomatoes.

02:39:14.060 I actually broke up with her because of that.

02:39:15.760 Play the bow again really quick.

02:39:18.400 Like, ew.

02:39:19.520 Boom.

02:39:19.840 Huge bow.

02:39:20.260 Do you see the depth, the submissive hand posture, uh, the bow at the, at the, at the

02:39:24.820 beginning?

02:39:25.800 Question, question for you guys from the super chatter.

02:39:29.480 Would you bow for a good guy?

02:39:32.940 A good man?

02:39:34.400 Who's your boyfriend, I guess?

02:39:36.340 No.

02:39:36.940 Nope.

02:39:37.280 Okay.

02:39:37.460 I don't think a good man would ask me to bow, so probably not.

02:39:42.300 A good man wouldn't ask you to bow, okay?

02:39:44.860 What about you?

02:39:45.340 I wouldn't bow.

02:39:46.620 Wouldn't bow?

02:39:47.320 Okay.

02:39:47.660 What about you?

02:39:48.220 No.

02:39:48.780 Wouldn't do it?

02:39:49.500 Okay.

02:39:49.800 No.

02:39:50.320 Wouldn't do it?

02:39:53.200 Wait.

02:39:53.860 It's, it's audio.

02:39:55.060 People?

02:39:55.660 Audio.

02:39:56.240 Audio.

02:39:57.460 Oh.

02:39:57.780 There's people who are just listening, so we need to verbalize.

02:40:00.920 I would not do it.

02:40:02.900 Okay.

02:40:03.200 What about you?

02:40:04.000 No.

02:40:05.180 Okay.

02:40:05.440 What about you?

02:40:05.880 Absolutely.

02:40:06.400 I would, I wouldn't.

02:40:07.440 You would, you would hit the bow?

02:40:08.440 I would absolutely.

02:40:09.080 Brian, I have a question for you.

02:40:10.340 Hold on.

02:40:11.160 Absolutely.

02:40:11.720 I would, I would.

02:40:12.140 You said more.

02:40:12.720 You said you would do more.

02:40:13.640 What's that?

02:40:14.020 I would like look up new ways to bow, like different ways of bowing from different countries.

02:40:18.160 Yeah.

02:40:18.520 Whatever.

02:40:19.040 Yeah.

02:40:19.280 Whatever he wanted.

02:40:20.320 I'd have his dinner ready.

02:40:21.520 I'd, yeah.

02:40:22.140 All that, that whole video he just showed.

02:40:24.800 Absolutely.

02:40:25.240 Okay.

02:40:25.360 For the right man.

02:40:26.320 What about you?

02:40:26.700 Yes, and it wouldn't be weird because my husband's actually from Japan.

02:40:30.860 There you go.

02:40:31.900 There you go.

02:40:32.800 All right.

02:40:33.920 What was your question?

02:40:36.020 I was just going to ask you, if a woman was working, blood, sweat, and tears, making more

02:40:40.040 money than you, like giving you peace, cooking all your meals, taking care of all of your

02:40:45.620 needs and everything, would you bow for her?

02:40:47.660 So I think this is a gender thing, right?

02:40:49.560 There's different sort of expectations when it comes to dating.

02:40:53.440 So, uh.

02:40:54.360 Like, expecting a woman to bow, apparently.

02:40:57.400 Well, yeah, sure.

02:40:58.080 So, the scenario you presented.

02:41:01.520 So, I've said though on the show, for the perfect woman, or like an exceptional woman,

02:41:08.040 but caked into that, she's like obscenely rich or whatever.

02:41:11.720 No, no, no.

02:41:12.020 But she's everything you've ever wanted, and she's also like really rich.

02:41:14.880 Or like, even if you don't want her, you would bow for her?

02:41:16.840 Sure, yeah.

02:41:17.360 Okay.

02:41:18.480 And that, that's a bigger, I don't know if indictment is the right word.

02:41:21.900 Like submissive hand posture, like all the way, like nose touching your knees, like full-on

02:41:26.440 bow?

02:41:27.220 Sure.

02:41:27.800 Why not?

02:41:28.440 Okay.

02:41:29.400 That's really nice.

02:41:30.540 Well, my, my calculus here is.

02:41:34.420 Can you do a demo?

02:41:35.740 Hold on.

02:41:36.320 My calculus on this, and you might say, Brian, that's ridiculous.

02:41:39.160 Your calculus on this.

02:41:40.440 Is almost nobody's going to get the perfect person.

02:41:44.740 So in my mind, in terms of what I think the perfect woman is, is so exceedingly rare that

02:41:51.440 there are men who would kill for that.

02:41:54.780 Now, I'm not going to, I wouldn't kill somebody for a woman.

02:41:57.160 Standards must be crazy.

02:41:58.580 But, well, it's not standards, but I'm, I'm saying that in life, we're not going to get

02:42:03.500 everything that we want, right?

02:42:05.500 I think people, people find their person for sure.

02:42:07.880 You can find your person, but people have flaws.

02:42:10.400 And this idea that whoever you end up with is going to be perfect in every single regard

02:42:15.840 is a fantasy.

02:42:17.980 But I think that's, that's the concept of being like imperfectly perfect.

02:42:21.520 You know what I mean?

02:42:22.000 Like loving someone.

02:42:22.760 I don't know what that means.

02:42:23.540 But my, my, my point is simply that, yeah, sure.

02:42:29.100 There's, I would do certain things that maybe I wouldn't otherwise do for like this sort

02:42:33.620 of unicorn fantasy land woman, right?

02:42:37.300 Obviously that doesn't exist.

02:42:39.100 So, I mean, the entailment here would be, okay, Brian.

02:42:42.600 But a woman should do that for a man.

02:42:44.120 It might not be perfect, but earns a hundred thousand years.

02:42:45.520 But here's my framework for this.

02:42:47.000 Okay.

02:42:47.160 The perfect woman, she's like exactly physically what I, my, what I'm looking for.

02:42:52.080 She meets all my like personality and, uh, value characteristics and she's like a trillionaire.

02:42:58.900 So like if the entailment is, okay, I have to bow, but then I never have to work a day

02:43:04.160 in my life and we have generational wealth.

02:43:06.900 Yeah.

02:43:07.300 I'll do a fucking bow so I can like just surf all day and never have to work.

02:43:13.380 Yeah, sure.

02:43:13.920 I'll do it.

02:43:14.300 But the man in this hypothetical isn't like some perfect, unrealistically ideal person.

02:43:18.880 He's just a man who makes a hundred K a year.

02:43:20.640 Sure.

02:43:20.880 So that's not perfectly ideal either.

02:43:22.480 So that's maybe like.

02:43:23.420 So why would a woman bow for him?

02:43:24.420 They wouldn't.

02:43:26.080 Well, that was his question.

02:43:27.580 My second follow-up question though would be for the perfect man.

02:43:32.120 Would you bow for him?

02:43:33.040 If he was the, again, what she said, if he was the perfect man, he wouldn't ask something

02:43:38.420 like that?

02:43:38.760 Well, but so the entailment here is every single other characteristic and trait that you would

02:43:44.300 deem to be perfect, he possesses.

02:43:47.140 Like ironically, unseriously, I would bow for him.

02:43:49.400 Like we'd be laughing about it, but not seriously in like some kind of weird, submissive way.

02:43:55.320 Okay.

02:43:55.740 So I'm taking that as a no.

02:43:57.380 You wouldn't bow for a perfect man.

02:43:58.520 What about you?

02:43:59.040 Perfect man.

02:43:59.660 Again, for me, like he would not ask me that.

02:44:06.640 I just think it would create a weird dynamic, no?

02:44:09.520 Not one that I would want.

02:44:11.100 Okay.

02:44:11.460 Well, not even the perfect man.

02:44:14.860 If he asked me seriously, then he's not the perfect man.

02:44:19.060 How about this?

02:44:20.440 The, it's not him that's asking you.

02:44:23.480 It's a magic genie.

02:44:24.660 But the magic genie has a condition and the condition is I'll give you your perfect man.

02:44:30.200 And it's not something that is in his mind that he's desiring this, but it's something

02:44:37.380 that as a condition of you accept, uh, receiving the perfect man, you have to do this action.

02:44:44.360 Would you do it?

02:44:45.620 Yeah.

02:44:45.880 Well, that's different.

02:44:46.800 So the issue is, the issue is his desire for it is the issue.

02:44:51.960 Yeah.

02:44:52.340 Cause if it was like, again, a joke, but it's the intention.

02:44:56.060 I don't, if his intention was like yours to make the other person submissive, then that's

02:45:01.780 not what I want.

02:45:03.840 I agree with that.

02:45:04.580 Uh, what about you?

02:45:06.240 Would you bow for your perfect man?

02:45:08.720 Um, uh, no, I would not bow.

02:45:11.280 I think it's weird.

02:45:12.260 No.

02:45:12.600 Okay.

02:45:12.980 For the perfect, perfect.

02:45:14.540 Keep in mind, money, looks, share, commonality, everything can be perfect.

02:45:21.960 Absolutely not.

02:45:23.140 Okay.

02:45:23.520 What about you?

02:45:25.080 Um, I think if he was my perfect man, then the only way he would ask me to do that is

02:45:30.780 if he like does it for me too.

02:45:33.140 No, it's one directional.

02:45:34.700 One directional.

02:45:35.540 I don't think, yeah, my perfect man wouldn't feel that.

02:45:38.380 Okay.

02:45:38.720 All right.

02:45:39.120 What about you?

02:45:40.100 Okay.

02:45:40.720 Do me a favor.

02:45:41.940 Just scoot into the table, please.

02:45:43.300 Just so we're.

02:45:45.460 Okay.

02:45:46.220 Sorry.

02:45:47.220 It's all right.

02:45:48.000 Just scoot into the table a little bit.

02:45:49.380 Just so we can hear you.

02:45:50.780 Audience can hear you.

02:45:52.140 Okay.

02:45:52.800 For.

02:45:53.220 Perfect man.

02:45:53.820 Will you bow?

02:45:55.120 My man.

02:45:56.920 It honestly doesn't matter like what he gives me as long as he's giving me the equal, you

02:46:05.320 know.

02:46:06.980 I know exactly what you're talking about.

02:46:08.480 What about you?

02:46:09.400 Yeah.

02:46:09.760 Oh, can I, we're just going to adjust your microphone a little bit.

02:46:13.360 Mine.

02:46:13.920 Yours.

02:46:14.560 Bella, can you scoot it this way a little bit and then tilt the microphone down just a

02:46:18.080 tad.

02:46:19.160 Thank you, Bella.

02:46:19.860 Appreciate it.

02:46:20.400 No.

02:46:20.780 No.

02:46:21.180 Won't bow.

02:46:21.860 Okay.

02:46:22.280 Fair.

02:46:22.620 Fair.

02:46:22.880 What about you?

02:46:23.780 Absolutely.

02:46:24.400 For the perfect eye?

02:46:25.500 Absolutely.

02:46:25.920 And then you said, well, you guys already said yes.

02:46:28.000 Yes.

02:46:28.260 I'm going to respond.

02:46:29.760 I'm going to give you guys a scathing rebuke.

02:46:32.560 But first, there's a check.

02:46:35.340 Pasty George donated $200.

02:46:38.440 Most of the women on the panel saying no to bowing for their ideal man is why a lot of

02:46:43.220 good Western men are going overseas to get women who are traditional and who bow for their

02:46:47.760 men out of respect.

02:46:49.260 Thank you, Pasty George.

02:46:50.360 Passport bros are not good Western men.

02:46:52.660 And we're going to, you had some thoughts on this, the traditional gender roles thing.

02:46:56.640 We're going to have the whole panel weigh in.

02:46:58.320 And we have one for you to read that's coming up in just a sec.

02:47:01.920 Pasty George, DM me on Discord.

02:47:03.480 I'm going to get you a TTS hookup.

02:47:06.980 I ask this to hear your input.

02:47:09.220 She works hard as well.

02:47:10.560 She does my laundry, makes my dinner, but I take care of the house.

02:47:14.360 I make this house a home.

02:47:16.520 Every luxury she has comes from my hands.

02:47:20.200 What's the question there?

02:47:21.880 Oh, I think he's just, that's a statement there.

02:47:24.260 Okay.

02:47:24.540 So back to this.

02:47:25.540 Um, it's interesting.

02:47:28.200 Uh, well, I guess before I give my full take, just a couple of questions for you guys.

02:47:32.700 Um, normally we have a questionnaire, but we didn't do it today.

02:47:35.600 Just really quick answers as we go around the table.

02:47:40.320 Should men pay for first dates?

02:47:44.680 In college?

02:47:47.040 Um.

02:47:47.360 Like at the age I'm at?

02:47:48.540 Cause like, I don't expect a college guy.

02:47:51.880 What if he asks you out on the date?

02:47:53.240 I think it's the masculine thing to do.

02:47:56.560 So I prefer it, but I don't think.

02:47:58.220 Oh, the masculine thing to do.

02:47:59.140 I think it's masculine.

02:47:59.540 I thought you reject traditional gender roles.

02:48:04.860 I, I think there's like masculine and feminine things, but I don't think like depending on your

02:48:10.000 preference, everyone has to subscribe to it.

02:48:11.820 Like every.

02:48:12.380 So you think if a woman went 50, 50 or paid for the date, that would be masculine?

02:48:17.020 No, I, again, like, I think like, especially in the situation I'm at, like I, I would, you

02:48:22.780 know, I'll, I'll backtrack.

02:48:23.640 I think, I think it's acceptable to go 50, 50 on the first date.

02:48:27.020 Okay.

02:48:27.400 But should men pay for first dates?

02:48:30.680 It is masculine.

02:48:32.060 So if a man wants to do that, I would prefer it.

02:48:35.600 I would prefer it.

02:48:36.420 You would be more impressed or it would be brownie points.

02:48:40.900 Yeah.

02:48:41.480 Brownie points.

02:48:42.000 Okay.

02:48:42.400 And then you said, like, I understand the college point you were making.

02:48:45.300 It's like, well, we're both broke.

02:48:47.360 We're both in college.

02:48:48.560 So in that case, I would be fine with going 50.

02:48:50.080 But I suspect the entailment there is, well, once we're both professionals, then the man

02:48:56.420 should definitely pay when we're both making money.

02:48:59.800 Like on a date?

02:49:00.900 Yeah.

02:49:01.660 Sure.

02:49:02.100 Yeah.

02:49:02.480 So to be clear, there'd be a greater expectation once you're both working now it's like, well,

02:49:09.220 he actually has resources.

02:49:10.380 He has money.

02:49:11.140 And once I advance my relationship with this person in the future and, like, I guess be

02:49:17.040 the one having kids and, like, playing a role there, like, I would also have greater expectations

02:49:21.520 in doing what's considered feminine, right?

02:49:23.660 Sure.

02:49:24.620 Should the man pay for the first date?

02:49:26.600 Well, I think it'd be nice depending on their financial situation.

02:49:30.800 Sure.

02:49:31.560 Okay.

02:49:32.740 Should the man pay for the first date?

02:49:34.280 I think I'd go as low as 50-50.

02:49:37.820 I agree with 50-50.

02:49:41.160 A small percentage.

02:49:41.780 At least.

02:49:42.820 What?

02:49:43.720 A small percentage of dudes pay on the first date.

02:49:46.860 I say at least 50-50.

02:49:49.080 Okay.

02:49:51.200 I talk like that all the time.

02:49:54.280 Okay.

02:49:54.720 You totally do.

02:49:55.620 Should the man pay for the first date?

02:50:04.560 If he's asking me out on the date, I feel like that's implied.

02:50:07.800 If I were to ask a man out.

02:50:09.280 Do you ask a man out?

02:50:10.380 Yeah.

02:50:10.980 Okay.

02:50:11.380 I'm not.

02:50:12.140 Who should pay on the first date?

02:50:13.440 I was actually going to have the same response.

02:50:15.280 If the person who initiates the date should pay for the date.

02:50:18.080 But in your own experience, is it typically the man who asks?

02:50:23.280 Yes.

02:50:23.980 Okay.

02:50:24.940 Who should pay?

02:50:26.460 Or should, sorry, should men pay on first dates?

02:50:29.240 I feel like that would be the best way for them to do that.

02:50:35.680 Okay.

02:50:35.880 Because, honestly, it's like, yeah, you're showing, oh, you're a gentleman.

02:50:40.900 You're paying on the first date.

02:50:43.660 But, honestly.

02:50:44.680 It's gentlemanly.

02:50:45.300 Yeah, but if he's, like, going through some financial shit and he's, like, honestly, I

02:50:50.340 need you to split this bill with me, you know, type shit, then.

02:50:53.980 Type shit.

02:50:54.540 Type shit.

02:50:55.120 Yeah.

02:50:55.200 Type shit.

02:50:56.440 Yeah.

02:50:56.820 Then I totally understand.

02:50:58.280 But that's my opinion.

02:50:59.860 They should always pay on the first date if they're trying to impress that girl.

02:51:04.180 What is, by the way, I'm, what is type shit?

02:51:08.040 Is that, like, yes?

02:51:09.940 Is it, like, is it affirmative?

02:51:12.260 It's another way of me saying you feel me.

02:51:15.300 Right?

02:51:16.340 Okay.

02:51:16.900 Okay.

02:51:17.180 You feel me?

02:51:17.940 Yeah.

02:51:18.340 Type shit.

02:51:19.080 Yeah.

02:51:19.740 Yeah.

02:51:20.380 Okay.

02:51:21.160 Bella, should men pay on first dates?

02:51:23.800 If he asks, yes.

02:51:25.220 If he asks?

02:51:25.660 Okay.

02:51:25.900 Yeah.

02:51:26.440 If he asks?

02:51:26.880 Absolutely.

02:51:27.760 What do you think?

02:51:28.720 I think it would be nice.

02:51:30.220 It would be nice?

02:51:30.780 It would be nice.

02:51:31.060 Okay.

02:51:31.560 All right.

02:51:31.860 Um, okay.

02:51:35.240 Not quite yet at my point, but, uh, should men be protectors?

02:51:42.300 And let's just do yes or no on this.

02:51:44.440 Should men be protectors?

02:51:45.560 Yeah.

02:51:46.260 Yes.

02:51:47.860 Yes.

02:51:48.780 Yes.

02:51:49.220 Just.

02:51:55.360 Okay.

02:51:55.880 Can I just say, can I just say yes and no?

02:52:01.020 Because I can't pretend.

02:52:02.180 I'll accept it.

02:52:02.820 I accept it.

02:52:03.680 Okay.

02:52:03.880 Thank you.

02:52:04.600 Yes.

02:52:05.360 Wait.

02:52:05.860 I'm sorry.

02:52:06.400 One more time, Bella?

02:52:07.380 Yes.

02:52:07.920 Yes.

02:52:08.620 Yes.

02:52:09.200 Okay.

02:52:09.480 Should men be providers?

02:52:10.800 Yes or no?

02:52:11.240 I mean, that's kind of more complicated because like personally, I would want to also provide

02:52:18.120 for myself financially, but I would assume both people are bringing money and like bringing

02:52:24.000 in wealth also for your children's future one day.

02:52:27.140 Okay.

02:52:27.760 But I mean, will there be, do you want kids one day?

02:52:30.680 Do you know how many?

02:52:32.340 Ideally, maybe two.

02:52:34.060 Okay.

02:52:35.400 Uh, do you want to take any time off from work?

02:52:39.320 I mean, yeah.

02:52:40.060 A couple of years maybe?

02:52:41.780 I mean, I don't know about years, but I would, I would take some time off when it's

02:52:44.400 necessary to be more present in the household.

02:52:46.540 Okay.

02:52:47.460 Uh, Mary, can you, uh, do upstairs?

02:52:50.480 You know what I'm talking about?

02:52:51.740 Yeah.

02:52:52.840 Uh, okay.

02:52:54.480 And, uh, should men be providers?

02:53:01.020 Um, should they?

02:53:03.100 I don't know, but it'd be nice for me.

02:53:06.360 Would be nice for sure.

02:53:07.700 Okay.

02:53:08.600 Yes or no?

02:53:09.140 No.

02:53:09.340 Should men be providers?

02:53:10.280 No.

02:53:10.420 No?

02:53:11.160 Yes.

02:53:11.720 Yes?

02:53:12.320 No.

02:53:12.780 No?

02:53:13.900 I personally think, okay, I'm sorry.

02:53:17.700 I personally.

02:53:19.020 Just yes or no.

02:53:20.340 I personally think if you're providing me with a child, then you should man up and actually

02:53:27.100 be providing for.

02:53:29.100 Got to man up.

02:53:29.960 Yeah.

02:53:30.320 Got to provide.

02:53:30.940 Okay.

02:53:31.140 That's a yes.

02:53:31.860 All right.

02:53:32.240 Bella, what about you?

02:53:32.880 Yes.

02:53:33.580 Yes.

02:53:34.000 Yes.

02:53:35.140 Okay.

02:53:36.880 Should men be chivalrous?

02:53:40.180 This kind of relates to these other points, but should men be chivalrous?

02:53:42.960 Quick yes or no?

02:53:43.600 What's your definition of chivalry?

02:53:44.900 Yeah, for real.

02:53:45.960 I'm just curious.

02:53:46.620 It would be like...

02:53:47.440 Do you mean like rape?

02:53:48.660 Like no.

02:53:49.360 Opening the door for you.

02:53:50.180 Like gentlemanly treatments.

02:53:51.640 I mean, it would encompass like provide, protect, paying for first days, but it could

02:53:55.040 also be certain actions like opening the car door for you, opening the car door, observing

02:54:01.200 the sidewalk, where the man walks closer to where the, on the, on the sidewalk, closer

02:54:07.160 to the cars, these sorts of kind of acts.

02:54:10.400 Are you asking me if I expect that all men should do that or if the men that I would choose

02:54:14.100 to date should do that?

02:54:15.800 Both.

02:54:16.320 Well, I guess you could break it down like what you want and then what you think prescriptively

02:54:20.220 all men should do.

02:54:21.360 I think if you want to be nonchalant and not really chivalrous and not doing those things,

02:54:25.560 then you have the right to do that.

02:54:26.960 And a woman who isn't really, doesn't really care about chivalry can find you.

02:54:29.780 But personally, for my dating life, I would prefer a man to do those things or just be

02:54:34.220 thought.

02:54:34.480 You should sit straight.

02:54:35.560 I feel like you're just cutting off Daniella over there.

02:54:38.780 Sorry about that.

02:54:40.020 Just boxing her out.

02:54:41.560 To me, like the word you're like chivalry or what you're saying, the examples you're

02:54:44.720 giving just point to being thoughtful.

02:54:46.200 And I think men should be thoughtful the way I would also want to be thoughtful.

02:54:49.100 The thing is though, is that these specific actions as it relates to chivalry are typically

02:54:54.100 one directional.

02:54:55.320 So it's not like, like both men and women can be thoughtful.

02:54:58.620 I think, but, but with those specific acts, the expectation is not for the woman to open

02:55:04.580 the car door for the man, not for the woman to walk closer to where the cars are.

02:55:09.120 Not for the woman to, I don't know if people do like the restaurant pull out seat thing.

02:55:13.740 That's kind of like whatever.

02:55:15.040 And I think like women do thoughtful things in like a different way too, right?

02:55:18.480 Yeah, sure.

02:55:18.880 Or actually, which ways?

02:55:22.700 No, just curious.

02:55:23.660 Hitting a bag.

02:55:24.520 Like what are the ways?

02:55:25.880 Like what are the thoughtful things that women uniquely do?

02:55:30.440 Like taking care of the home, raising children, cooking meals.

02:55:35.840 Well, but now we're talking about way down the line.

02:55:40.560 I guess I'm more so looking like, if you're not living with the guy, are you doing some

02:55:46.540 of these things?

02:55:47.140 I mean, if you're dating a guy, you can certainly be thoughtful.

02:55:49.300 You can show up for him and like care for him.

02:55:52.840 He would show up for you too.

02:55:53.680 Which is why it's a mutual thing to be thoughtful and caring.

02:55:56.360 But there, there are societally, there are specific things that seem to be like specific

02:56:02.360 acts that really seem to only be placed on men.

02:56:06.700 Well, I, as it relates to dating.

02:56:08.520 Don't men have certain expectations for women when it comes to dating too?

02:56:12.160 Like what?

02:56:13.160 You tell me, do you have expect like certain expectations?

02:56:15.300 No, you tell me.

02:56:16.040 I'm asking you the question.

02:56:17.060 It's your claim.

02:56:17.800 I mean, I think men expect women to look a certain way, to present themselves a certain

02:56:22.280 way, to carry themselves a certain way.

02:56:25.420 Yeah, but this would go both ways.

02:56:26.560 I mean, perhaps women, to be charitable, I think women are a bit more forgiving.

02:56:31.980 In some ways on the physical front, but this idea that women, hold on, but this idea that

02:56:37.640 women are like wholesale, just tolerate complete slobbery from men is ridiculous.

02:56:43.220 It's completely ridiculous.

02:56:44.720 Both genders want good hygiene.

02:56:46.920 Both genders want people to be presentable.

02:56:49.880 So, I mean, also some of the, some of the things that women do to be presentable, that's

02:56:57.560 for the female gaze.

02:56:58.400 Like this excessive makeup, plastic surgery, fake lips, that's female gaze shit.

02:57:04.500 Men don't like the, men don't like the fake lip shit.

02:57:07.780 Men don't like that.

02:57:09.020 So there, but a lot of women do that because maybe they think men do.

02:57:12.520 Well, I think women like, so big lips are typically deemed attractive.

02:57:18.100 Right.

02:57:18.540 Um, but men, from what I've heard from a bunch of men and my own personal preference is I

02:57:25.740 think the fake lip thing looks really weird.

02:57:27.920 I think Kylie Jenner became a lot more conventionally attractive to men after she got lip filler.

02:57:32.400 I think it makes a lot of people look older.

02:57:35.980 I mean, there's like bad lip jobs and good lip jobs.

02:57:38.700 I mean, they're mostly bad, but.

02:57:41.280 Okay.

02:57:42.120 Does somebody, anybody, sorry, am I like talking shit about somebody here?

02:57:44.980 Does anybody, anybody here have lip filler?

02:57:47.400 Yes.

02:57:47.960 Try to see.

02:57:49.100 Yes.

02:57:49.940 Daniela, do you have lip filler?

02:57:50.980 Sorry, guess.

02:57:51.700 Yeah, try to see.

02:57:52.480 No, not at all.

02:57:53.680 You have lip filler?

02:57:54.640 No.

02:57:55.960 What?

02:57:56.380 Sorry, Bella, you wanted to come in on something or?

02:57:58.320 No, I don't have lip filler.

02:57:59.600 Oh, I thought you wanted to add.

02:58:00.660 Okay.

02:58:00.820 Um, oh, wait, hold on.

02:58:03.820 Blazik donated $999.

02:58:12.700 Men are expected to die to protect their wife.

02:58:16.080 If you can't do a simple bow or make him a sandwich for the penny or a future cat lady.

02:58:20.980 That's lit.

02:58:21.860 999.

02:58:23.540 I'd make my man a sandwich if he wanted.

02:58:25.600 Thank you, man.

02:58:26.620 Thank you.

02:58:27.200 Here's what I'm going to do, though.

02:58:28.500 Just because I want to finish off this segment.

02:58:33.820 Um, are you cool if we delay it like the champagne pop five to ten minutes?

02:58:39.360 Nick, can you just give me a reminder to do the champagne pop?

02:58:41.520 I just really want to get through this without an interruption.

02:58:44.700 Um, okay, where were we?

02:58:46.340 We were talking about chivalry.

02:58:49.560 We can try to speed run it if you want.

02:58:51.520 I love it.

02:58:52.300 Chivalry.

02:58:52.880 The question was, should men be chivalrous?

02:58:55.840 Yes.

02:58:56.760 Yes.

02:58:57.640 Yes.

02:58:58.220 Yes.

02:58:59.500 I guess.

02:59:00.580 Okay.

02:59:02.500 Yes.

02:59:02.940 Yes.

02:59:03.500 I'll say yes.

02:59:04.960 Every woman would prefer it.

02:59:06.500 Okay.

02:59:07.380 Uh, and then let's see here.

02:59:09.800 Uh, who here wants to get married?

02:59:13.180 Just a show of hands.

02:59:14.220 Wants to get married.

02:59:15.920 Boom, boom, boom.

02:59:16.920 Everybody except Bella?

02:59:18.920 No, I do.

02:59:19.540 Sorry.

02:59:19.720 Oh, okay.

02:59:20.620 You do.

02:59:21.140 And then just you, you don't want to get married?

02:59:23.400 Okay.

02:59:24.620 When you do get married, will you take your husband's last name?

02:59:27.680 Yeah.

02:59:28.280 Or I would be interested in doing like a hyphenated kind of thing.

02:59:30.860 Um, so no.

02:59:35.220 You know, you can like combine two last names.

02:59:37.320 I was going to.

02:59:37.760 But so, so no, you wouldn't take his last name though.

02:59:41.740 You would, you would hyphenate.

02:59:42.840 That is still taking his last name.

02:59:44.020 It becomes a part of your name.

02:59:45.360 But I like to keep my name and his name.

02:59:47.580 Like you can do like, like Alan Smith.

02:59:49.420 But you wouldn't take his name.

02:59:51.400 Like completely.

02:59:51.780 So what I mean like.

02:59:52.440 No, I might.

02:59:53.120 It depends how I feel eventually.

02:59:54.180 You mean completely?

02:59:55.260 Just like.

02:59:55.680 Like.

02:59:56.000 So no hyphen.

02:59:56.860 Haley Road Bieber.

02:59:58.360 Like that.

02:59:58.740 Right.

02:59:59.020 Like that.

02:59:59.660 Yeah.

02:59:59.800 I kind of like that.

03:00:00.420 I do have that.

03:00:01.320 Okay.

03:00:01.540 But you won't, just to be clear.

03:00:03.420 You won't.

03:00:03.900 I would have to think about it.

03:00:04.940 I wouldn't outright refuse it.

03:00:05.920 And I don't think anything's wrong with wanting to take your husband's last name.

03:00:08.520 It would just be my preference.

03:00:09.620 But you would lean towards hyphenation?

03:00:12.160 Yeah.

03:00:12.520 Okay.

03:00:12.680 Most likely.

03:00:12.920 What about you?

03:00:13.500 Will you take his name or hyphenate?

03:00:16.220 I'm not against it, but I think I like my last name, so I might hyphenate it.

03:00:19.920 Like your last name?

03:00:20.880 Okay.

03:00:21.020 Yeah.

03:00:21.500 Same with both of them.

03:00:24.060 So.

03:00:25.060 Hyphenate?

03:00:25.140 I'd either take the last name or I'd also hyphenate it.

03:00:29.160 I'd like.

03:00:30.020 Well, is anybody here prepared to say.

03:00:34.280 No, you absolutely will not.

03:00:35.580 Because it depends on the last name.

03:00:36.740 Just take his last name.

03:00:38.000 Because if his last name is lame, I'm not taking that shit.

03:00:42.080 Okay.

03:00:42.620 Well, here.

03:00:43.100 Just going around really quickly.

03:00:44.280 Do you outright refuse to just take his last name?

03:00:49.700 No.

03:00:50.400 I don't refuse to take his last name.

03:00:51.300 But you'd want to hyphenate.

03:00:51.660 And tell me if you'd want to hyphenate.

03:00:53.920 No, but I'd like to hyphen.

03:00:56.440 What if he says no?

03:00:59.100 Well, it's not so important to me that if I met the right person that I couldn't negotiate on that.

03:01:04.920 Like what if he insisted?

03:01:06.100 He's like, look.

03:01:07.140 I'd do it then.

03:01:07.520 I want to adhere to this tradition.

03:01:09.320 Yeah, I'd do it.

03:01:10.620 Okay.

03:01:11.900 Will you take your husband's last name?

03:01:13.740 Yeah, but I prefer to hyphenate.

03:01:14.940 Prefer to hyphenate.

03:01:15.780 Okay.

03:01:16.120 That's an acceptable answer.

03:01:18.400 Sorry.

03:01:20.840 I'd prefer to hyphenate.

03:01:22.400 Prefer to hyphenate.

03:01:23.400 Would you absolutely not take your husband's last name?

03:01:26.180 Like 100% no?

03:01:27.260 It's negotiable.

03:01:28.520 Okay.

03:01:28.880 What about you?

03:01:29.860 Or you don't want to get married, right?

03:01:31.500 I don't.

03:01:32.580 Okay.

03:01:32.800 So it doesn't matter then.

03:01:33.800 Yeah, it doesn't matter.

03:01:35.420 What about you?

03:01:36.740 Hyphenate.

03:01:37.380 Hyphenate.

03:01:37.740 Won't, under no circumstance, take your husband's last name?

03:01:41.340 No, I would if I have to think about it.

03:01:43.880 I'm 20.

03:01:45.180 Well, sure.

03:01:45.740 I don't expect you to get married anytime soon.

03:01:49.860 But you would prefer to hyphenate.

03:01:52.900 Yes.

03:01:53.380 Okay.

03:01:53.760 What about you?

03:01:54.340 I want his last name.

03:01:55.440 What about you?

03:01:56.160 I took my husband's last name.

03:01:57.220 You took his last name.

03:01:57.860 You are married.

03:01:58.640 Okay.

03:01:58.880 Okay.

03:01:59.680 And then secondly, this should be the last question related to this traditional stuff.

03:02:05.700 Well, then we'll get into the open convo.

03:02:08.480 Do you want your children to have your last name or to hyphenate?

03:02:14.180 I think it would make more sense if they took my husband's last name.

03:02:17.800 Oh, okay.

03:02:18.500 Interesting.

03:02:19.840 I don't know.

03:02:22.000 Pick.

03:02:22.620 Pick one.

03:02:23.740 Pick one?

03:02:24.340 Yeah.

03:02:24.820 Do you prefer your children be hyphenated or take your husband's last name?

03:02:30.520 I'd probably give my last name to be their middle name or something just to keep it in

03:02:35.940 the family.

03:02:37.040 Okay.

03:02:39.220 Yeah.

03:02:39.720 That's a good idea.

03:02:41.600 But also give it to their, like, give them his last name.

03:02:46.680 Sorry.

03:02:47.940 Okay.

03:02:48.380 What about you?

03:02:49.120 I'd give it to my kids.

03:02:50.340 All right.

03:02:51.260 I'd hyphenate with my kids.

03:02:52.800 For the kids.

03:02:53.280 Okay.

03:02:53.440 What about you?

03:02:54.040 Definitely not.

03:02:55.240 Okay.

03:02:56.020 For your kids?

03:02:56.700 Husband's last name.

03:02:57.200 Husband's last name?

03:02:57.940 Husband's last name.

03:02:59.120 It's going to be his last name.

03:03:00.980 Okay.

03:03:02.040 So, interesting.

03:03:06.700 This whole bow thing, talking about all these things, the reason I bring it up is it seems

03:03:11.920 like a lot of women want men to hold to their tradition, to men's traditional gender roles.

03:03:21.980 But you want to completely abandon, forsake, relinquish any traditional gender roles that

03:03:28.540 relate to women.

03:03:30.000 So, it's like, you guys want men to pay on first dates.

03:03:32.240 Men should pay on first dates.

03:03:34.060 Men should provide.

03:03:34.980 Men should protect.

03:03:35.640 Men should be chivalrous.

03:03:36.500 Do all these things, right?

03:03:37.460 But why shouldn't women do, like, why, is there anything that we can place on women where

03:03:45.400 we can say women should?

03:03:46.920 I think you can place certain things on women.

03:03:48.700 I just think the idea of bowing specifically is kind of weird and not the same as like chivalry

03:03:53.740 on the male.

03:03:54.180 So, the bow thing, I'm bringing it to just generalized traditional gender roles.

03:03:59.560 I'm happy to go back to the bow for a little bit.

03:04:01.440 Is a woman bowing for a man, like, the whole generalization of femininity and, like, what

03:04:05.460 a woman should do for a man?

03:04:06.500 No, that's not the claim, though.

03:04:07.660 That's not the claim.

03:04:08.640 Okay.

03:04:09.240 Well, the bow is a really easy way to gauge the degree to which women are willing to do

03:04:15.040 anything that could possibly, even slightly inconvenience them for the sake of a man.

03:04:21.720 And it's interesting to me, though, as it relates to the bow, that you won't even do

03:04:29.300 it for the perfect man.

03:04:32.100 It's not because I don't like him enough.

03:04:33.760 It's just bowing is, like, it's just like this ultimate act of submission.

03:04:38.200 And, like, there's nothing.

03:04:39.020 Wait, wait, wait.

03:04:39.380 Hold on.

03:04:40.540 It's an act of submission, but it's definitely not the ultimate act of submission.

03:04:45.020 Like, wouldn't you agree, like, the actual act of bowing, like, completely benign and

03:04:51.200 super easy?

03:04:52.240 Sure, it's easy, but it's just, like she said, there's, like, a weird dynamic behind

03:04:56.560 that.

03:04:56.840 And it's, like, the degree of what I'm asking or, like, what I like that's masculine is

03:05:00.880 kind of different than, like, the action of bowing.

03:05:03.240 Like, if a man has certain expectations for me as a woman, I wouldn't believe those expectations

03:05:08.520 to be, like, me bowing.

03:05:10.700 Like, there's other expectations that men have.

03:05:13.760 Like, okay, what are women expected to do?

03:05:16.880 To be nurturers and to take care of the home and to, like, carry themselves in a feminine

03:05:21.720 way, you know?

03:05:22.880 Isn't that, like, feminine?

03:05:25.020 But how long do you reserve all those things?

03:05:27.580 Because a lot of these things, like, you expect men to front load almost all this behavior.

03:05:34.120 The expectation there is immediately guy has to pay for the date, guy should be willing

03:05:38.680 to provide, protect, well, okay, maybe not provide.

03:05:40.760 Like, obviously, first date, the guy's not going to buy you a house, right?

03:05:43.960 Right, but when I'm dating, like, if I'm, like, going into dating with a man, I don't

03:05:46.420 have, like, a checklist, oh, he needs to do this, he needs to do this, he needs to do

03:05:48.820 this.

03:05:49.100 Like, I'm not approaching dating like that even when it comes to men.

03:05:51.440 Do you think the guy should open, like, the guy picks you up on a first date, picks

03:05:54.320 you up in his car, should he open the car door for you?

03:05:58.620 I mean, it's, that's a nice thing for him to do.

03:06:00.760 That's a thoughtful thing for him to do.

03:06:02.420 It's, like, almost exclusively something that men do.

03:06:05.320 Like, a traditional gender expectation on men, right?

03:06:08.360 But my question is...

03:06:10.860 But what is there for a woman to do immediately?

03:06:13.180 I can give you some, well, I can give you a couple of answers, but...

03:06:15.200 If you gave me examples, I can address them for sure.

03:06:16.660 But, I mean, to actually your point, there's not really a ton.

03:06:20.340 So then what is a woman supposed to do?

03:06:22.180 I'll get there, I'll get there.

03:06:23.500 My criticism, though, is you guys all had this, like, visceral, like, ugh, bow, but it's,

03:06:30.000 if we even compare it to the, I guess, a male comparison, which I would say is opening the

03:06:35.440 car door, that takes more time and effort than the bow does.

03:06:40.840 Opening the car door, get out of the car, walk around the car, open the car door.

03:06:46.800 Like, women are capable of opening car doors.

03:06:49.520 It's, like, women drive all the time.

03:06:52.700 They have their own cars.

03:06:54.480 I guess my confusion, though, is, like...

03:06:56.900 Like, what am I doing in return?

03:06:57.840 No, it's, it's, I wouldn't frame it as tit for tat.

03:07:01.240 I guess we have these expectations that we place on men that, in comparison to the bow,

03:07:07.160 take more time, more effort.

03:07:09.400 Even, for example, the paying for dates, the man paying for the date.

03:07:15.500 If the, so, okay, what do you guys think would be, like, a realistic, I know you could just

03:07:23.580 go get pizza and it's, like, 20 bucks or whatever.

03:07:25.320 But if a guy takes you to, like, a medium-tier place or whatever, maybe he'll spend 100 bucks

03:07:31.640 total.

03:07:32.360 Like, I think that's pretty reasonable.

03:07:33.760 Even if you go to Chili's, you get an appetizer, you both get drinks, you get a main course,

03:07:38.520 you get a dessert, you tip the waitress.

03:07:40.500 That's probably about 100 bucks, right?

03:07:42.700 I don't think it'd be unrealistic for somebody.

03:07:45.320 And Chili's is not, like, the most preeminent dating venue, like, first date venue.

03:07:50.100 Some guys will spend less, some will spend more.

03:07:53.060 But using this $100 dinner example, the baked-in expectation from women then is, in order for

03:08:03.220 you to go on a date with me, you, let's say the guy works a job and he gets paid $20 an

03:08:09.380 hour before tax, by the way, he has to work five hours to take you out to dinner.

03:08:19.760 And you could say, well, okay, well, what about, you know, the portion of the meal, it's 50,

03:08:24.280 you know, say it's 50 for him, 50 for you, he pays 100, okay.

03:08:28.700 So then the entailment is just, instead of five hours of work, he's working two and a half

03:08:32.540 hours.

03:08:32.900 To reiterate, I did mention earlier, if both people are, like, in a situation where they're

03:08:36.940 kind of not on their feet yet, like, money-wise, like, especially in college, I could be more

03:08:41.360 forgiving there.

03:08:41.800 I mean, sure, I would say maybe in college, women are a little more forgiving on that front.

03:08:46.440 Yeah.

03:08:46.860 I still think it would also be fair to say that even in college, women, not all women, but

03:08:51.640 a large proportion of women will still have this expectation on men.

03:08:56.660 And so the expectation they're baked in is, and let's say the guy works some, like, super

03:09:02.720 physically laborious job, like he's a laborer, he's digging ditches or whatever, he's working

03:09:08.340 like a really shitty retail job or some shit.

03:09:13.300 Not fun, right?

03:09:15.440 Okay.

03:09:15.940 In order for him to go on a date with you, he's got to work two and a half hours.

03:09:21.860 So that's my confusion with the objection to the bow is it's free.

03:09:27.340 It takes, it takes three seconds, no effort, but you, is that really what men want in return

03:09:35.180 in terms of all like chivalry?

03:09:37.060 They want a bow.

03:09:37.760 Is that like the ultimate expectation of women in like dating culture that men want secretly?

03:09:42.340 Most men probably don't want this, right?

03:09:44.140 They don't really care about that.

03:09:45.160 So I'm looking at this from a bird's eye view.

03:09:47.260 I'm like, I'm looking at it.

03:09:48.660 I'm looking at the chessboard and I'm like, hold on.

03:09:51.080 Um, every single woman here, except for, I think you two, ew, visceral response, the

03:09:57.080 bow, what wouldn't bow.

03:09:58.700 That's, uh, what create weird, whatever.

03:10:02.660 Cause that's not even what most men are looking for.

03:10:04.420 Like you said, it's just kind of this weird outlandish thing.

03:10:07.280 I feel like it's not the best support for your argument.

03:10:11.380 Like the bow is not comparison to a man opening the door.

03:10:14.980 Like, I feel like it's comparable, but go ahead.

03:10:18.200 Oh, well, I think it's a lot less casual, but, um, I think there's certain compromises and

03:10:25.840 you kind of figure out it's not like women aren't doing anything.

03:10:29.120 Like I pay for dessert instead of them, or you'd be conscious of their financial situation

03:10:35.020 and not spend as much.

03:10:36.560 But it's like, there's certain actions that I feel like, like women also compensate in

03:10:43.640 the same way.

03:10:44.260 So it's not such a harsh, like, Oh, these are all the expectations like women have, like

03:10:49.360 men have just as much.

03:10:50.840 So I don't know.

03:10:52.320 I don't really get that.

03:10:54.000 Well, I, the, the comparison is quite simple.

03:10:55.960 It's you object to the bow would never do it.

03:10:59.540 But like, if we look at the duties and burdens and traditional gender role expectations of

03:11:04.900 men, if it is the case, and look, some women are fine going 50, 50, whatever.

03:11:10.160 Most women will never pay for a full date though.

03:11:12.380 That's exceedingly rare.

03:11:14.000 That's besides the point though.

03:11:15.720 Uh, there is a quite a bit of an expectation men should pay on first dates.

03:11:20.700 Again, that means that men should, if he makes $20 an hour, some men make way less than that.

03:11:28.240 He has to work two, three, four hours to take you out.

03:11:34.980 And I'm thinking in my head, it's like, imagine if I would have verbalized to a woman, you know

03:11:40.780 what?

03:11:41.060 I don't need the bow, but go work for some corporation for two, three, four hours.

03:11:45.760 So you have, so I'll even consider going on a date with you.

03:11:49.060 You women would be like, the fuck you want me to like, I don't know, go work at Nordstrom's

03:11:55.580 or some shit for two, three, four hours.

03:11:57.640 So I can go on a date with you.

03:11:59.080 You would laugh.

03:11:59.900 You guys would think that's ridiculous.

03:12:01.680 I guess what I'm pointing out is the bow thing is a really small ask.

03:12:05.760 I think, whereas women have, you, you probably privilege is invisible to those who have it.

03:12:13.740 You probably haven't even considered the re the reality of some guy.

03:12:18.420 And there's a lot of people who work retail, who work service jobs, who really don't get

03:12:23.080 paid a bunch.

03:12:24.360 Should we just like do some, uh, should we bar them from dating because they don't make

03:12:28.800 a lot of money?

03:12:29.440 I think, well, I mean, I've worked plenty of jobs.

03:12:32.420 Like I've paid for men.

03:12:34.220 Like these things don't, I think I would not ask for something that they weren't willing

03:12:40.700 to give in the first place.

03:12:41.880 So it's, I'm not expecting them to pay, but if they do, then they do.

03:12:46.320 And then where that goes from then on is just how compatible, like who we are.

03:12:52.180 There's no asking, I think, or I don't know.

03:12:55.600 That's not how I approach relationships.

03:12:59.020 Well, okay.

03:13:01.100 Um, I guess again, though, my confusion here, I mean, how about this?

03:13:05.800 Is there, what is something that we can say women should do?

03:13:11.800 Like should a woman when she's in a relationship with a man, should she do his laundry?

03:13:19.040 Yes.

03:13:19.280 I don't think there's like shoulds.

03:13:22.080 Like I think if the woman wants to and she does, and then the man likes that, then yeah.

03:13:27.340 Cause not all relationships are built under this like structure.

03:13:31.240 But the thing is, is that, uh, male traditional gender roles don't seem quite as negotiable.

03:13:40.060 So it's like, look, there are women who are fine with 50, 50, although even a lot of these

03:13:46.760 like liberal feminist, progressive women, they still prefer, still want men to pay for,

03:13:53.460 pay for dates.

03:13:55.340 So, I mean, I, okay.

03:14:00.540 But I want to understand like overall, like you have this frustration with like women wanting

03:14:04.780 certain things, but then I don't, I'm not frustrated by it.

03:14:07.820 Well, like you think it's like one-sided, like, Oh, like women want chivalry, but then

03:14:11.360 men can't want anything.

03:14:12.580 So I'm just curious, like, what is it that men like today, like within dating culture want

03:14:18.100 that women should provide?

03:14:19.580 Cause like the, the bow again, that's not, you already said, that's not representative

03:14:22.880 of what men overall want for women.

03:14:24.960 So what is the expectation that men have?

03:14:27.020 I think men have very low, uh, honestly, it doesn't take much to please men.

03:14:33.600 Doesn't take much.

03:14:34.540 I don't think you got to do all this extraneous shit the same way that men do, um, but you

03:14:40.580 do have this like frustration about it being one-sided.

03:14:43.060 So I'm trying to like reconcile that and understand.

03:14:45.600 So I, I don't.

03:14:47.820 Well, my frustration stems more so from I'm fine with, I'm fine with traditional gender

03:14:53.560 roles.

03:14:54.100 I'm totally fine with it.

03:14:55.500 Yeah.

03:14:55.700 But my issue comes from when women hold men to their traditional gender roles, especially

03:15:03.840 when these women tend to be more egalitarian or progressive or liberal in, you know, all

03:15:11.280 other regards.

03:15:12.080 But as it relates strictly to dating, they want modernity for themselves, but they want tradition

03:15:20.220 for men.

03:15:21.300 They want the benefits of modernity.

03:15:24.600 They want the benefits of tradition and they want to, but they want to make it modern.

03:15:29.680 They want to pick like equality is a buffet to women.

03:15:32.760 You want to pick and choose the quality that best suits you.

03:15:36.700 And if any form of equality could somehow come to your detriment, paying, going 50, 50,

03:15:41.700 like taking a more proactive role when it comes to dating and courtship, which like even super

03:15:47.380 liberal women, like really not that proactive, then yes.

03:15:53.160 Well, I would say like, I mean, I don't believe you can hold someone to like a full on traditional

03:15:57.120 standard and then completely reject it when it comes to you.

03:15:59.680 Like personally, again, like you mentioned the whole thing about men being providers.

03:16:03.300 I don't expect a man to completely provide for me.

03:16:05.620 Like I plan on earning my own money.

03:16:06.940 So that's me having my own financial stability, the whole protector thing.

03:16:10.760 Like it's nice if a man has protective instincts, but I also plan on being able to protect myself.

03:16:16.200 So it's not like I'm, how are you going to do that?

03:16:18.920 Aren't you, would you ever, do you own a gun?

03:16:20.820 Would you, I own pepper spray like again, but like, is a man, is a man like pulling out

03:16:25.540 a gun to defend me?

03:16:26.540 Super quick segue here.

03:16:28.100 Oh God.

03:16:28.700 Um, you, you live, you, you, you live alone or whatever and somebody breaks into your house

03:16:35.800 and it's a man.

03:16:38.980 Uh, you don't know if they have a knife.

03:16:40.900 You don't know if they have a gun.

03:16:42.220 Um, how would you best be able to go about defending yourself in that situation?

03:16:49.740 I likely wouldn't be able to, but I don't plan on owning a gun cause I'm not comfortable

03:16:53.700 with that.

03:16:54.120 I would just try and call 9-1-1 or something or escape as soon as possible.

03:16:58.760 Like I, I, that doesn't mean I have to own a gun.

03:17:01.040 I mean, if you could even get to the phone in that time.

03:17:03.060 Yeah, I might, I might die.

03:17:04.200 I just don't plan on owning a gun.

03:17:05.580 Like the thing with police, right?

03:17:06.760 The thing you have to understand when it comes to self-defense, after you've been murdered,

03:17:11.120 the police will show up and investigate the crime scene, but police will take four, five,

03:17:18.700 six, seven, 10, 15 minutes to show up to the active home invasion.

03:17:26.360 If someone invaded my home and tried to kill me, I'd probably die.

03:17:29.400 Well, seconds matter in this situation.

03:17:32.140 Like unless the police are, even if the police were like kicking it outside your house, I'm

03:17:38.880 probably dead.

03:17:39.640 It's inclined to murder you.

03:17:42.400 Yeah.

03:17:42.800 Then I would probably get murdered.

03:17:46.040 Does anybody else off of the gun thing though, want to weigh in on the ongoing conversation

03:17:50.720 about anybody have thoughts on this?

03:17:53.420 My point here is basically just, we, we say men should do.

03:18:00.020 Are you fucking snoring?

03:18:01.980 Hello?

03:18:03.300 Are you snoring bro?

03:18:06.740 No.

03:18:10.300 I turn to talk.

03:18:12.800 Chat, what do we do here, bro?

03:18:17.560 This is, we can't, we can't have people snoring on the show, man.

03:18:21.620 Uh, here's what we're going to do.

03:18:25.740 All right.

03:18:26.380 And then your girlfriend over there is also snoring.

03:18:29.520 I'm not snoring.

03:18:30.940 I'm giving you a yellow card.

03:18:32.340 I'm giving you a yellow card.

03:18:34.240 Okay, fine.

03:18:35.280 When you get the red card.

03:18:36.660 Everything she was saying.

03:18:37.840 So, um, hold on.

03:18:38.840 Where's the fucking dunce cap?

03:18:40.180 Hold on.

03:18:41.620 Oh God.

03:18:43.720 I get to wear a helmet.

03:18:45.160 You get to wear this for five minutes.

03:18:47.880 Yeah.

03:18:48.240 Because you snored.

03:18:49.160 That's, that's your punishment.

03:18:50.900 Uh, yellow card.

03:18:52.080 Yellow card.

03:18:53.100 This is a fun punishment.

03:18:53.980 It's better than getting kicked out.

03:18:55.560 And, uh, but hey, you're on the warning because I have a red card ready to go.

03:19:00.580 So, okay.

03:19:01.520 Where was I?

03:19:02.280 Where the fuck?

03:19:03.220 We're talking about gender roles or guns?

03:19:05.160 We moved on.

03:19:05.980 I was asking, I think the other panelists, if anybody else wanted to weigh in on.

03:19:09.760 This can barely fit on my head.

03:19:12.000 Interesting how that works.

03:19:13.280 Nobody?

03:19:15.800 Well, come on.

03:19:16.580 You got something.

03:19:17.400 Come on.

03:19:18.040 I think your yes or no questions don't properly encapsulate like what goes on.

03:19:24.140 I don't think I'm expecting a lot from a man in this case that I.

03:19:30.540 Let me interrupt you super quick.

03:19:32.140 Do you see the cop, the helicopter on her head?

03:19:34.760 Actually, I'm going to have Bella do it.

03:19:36.160 Bella, I need to spin her helicopter for me.

03:19:38.480 I can spin it.

03:19:41.020 No, Bella's going to do it for you.

03:19:43.040 You got this, Bella.

03:19:44.500 All right.

03:19:45.080 Bella, Bella.

03:19:46.800 I like it.

03:19:48.100 There you go.

03:19:48.980 Nice.

03:19:49.560 Okay, sorry.

03:19:50.360 Continue with your point.

03:19:51.200 I apologize.

03:19:52.360 You're good.

03:19:53.980 Yeah, I think that it's nice to pay on a first date, although I wouldn't expect it.

03:20:02.080 And I would go on a second if it went well if I was to pay for the whole thing.

03:20:08.480 Oh, okay.

03:20:10.740 Sorry.

03:20:11.100 Sorry.

03:20:11.460 No, you're fine.

03:20:12.640 Behind the scenes stuff.

03:20:13.400 Go ahead.

03:20:13.840 Yeah.

03:20:14.180 My apologies.

03:20:15.540 Yeah.

03:20:15.840 I just think I'm not expecting that much more out of a man in this case than I expect

03:20:21.000 from myself.

03:20:21.640 I think like the relationship I'm in right now is pretty even.

03:20:26.400 We've like talked about it.

03:20:27.580 And I think he said like he thinks he's maybe like spent $200 more than me in the relationship.

03:20:33.720 And we've been together for a while.

03:20:35.060 So chivalry is nice.

03:20:38.500 It's not expected.

03:20:40.900 Providing is nice.

03:20:42.120 It's not expected.

03:20:43.920 So.

03:20:44.880 Well, look, I'll absolutely grant that there are relationships that are pretty equitable.

03:20:50.020 But I don't think that this is the majority of relationships.

03:20:53.540 I do think that there is a tendency to place certain more chivalrous traditional gender

03:20:57.900 roles on men just because there are examples like yours where don't deny it 100% the case.

03:21:05.540 There's absolutely like super egalitarian relationships.

03:21:08.600 Although I would probably say like in terms of who front loaded the initiative, like who

03:21:14.520 made the first move?

03:21:15.480 Was it mostly him?

03:21:16.980 Yeah.

03:21:17.520 Like he asked you out.

03:21:18.640 He approached me.

03:21:19.420 He approached you.

03:21:20.180 He planned.

03:21:20.660 Did he plan the first date?

03:21:22.200 He did.

03:21:22.540 Did he pay for the first date?

03:21:24.300 He did.

03:21:24.760 So even with you, you're very it sounds like you're very egalitarian person.

03:21:28.780 But at least during the initial stages of the relationship, it did play out in a more

03:21:33.660 traditional way, I guess you could say.

03:21:36.960 So I would point that out.

03:21:39.340 But again, I'm just what are the shoulds that we can place on women?

03:21:44.360 I don't know.

03:21:44.940 Can I say something?

03:21:45.440 Sure.

03:21:45.720 Go ahead.

03:21:45.920 I feel like when a guy, when you said gender roles, like they open the door and stuff,

03:21:51.480 I feel like they enjoy doing that.

03:21:53.180 Like I don't think they expect anything.

03:21:54.800 But why have we propagandized women to not enjoying their traditional gender roles?

03:22:02.740 Oh, sorry.

03:22:03.140 Did you?

03:22:03.480 I didn't mean to cut you off.

03:22:04.400 Well, no.

03:22:05.920 I just.

03:22:07.040 So what exactly would you say in this day and age is our gender role?

03:22:12.440 It's just like laundry and food.

03:22:13.980 Oh, I mean, there's a whole bunch of different things.

03:22:16.260 I mean, there's a whole bunch of different things.

03:22:18.100 But if we're if we're looking at specific actions, you could say some of the household

03:22:22.540 duties.

03:22:23.360 Absolutely.

03:22:24.080 This obviously would manifest itself more so when people are like living together.

03:22:28.160 Perhaps there's like for right now in our age, like if they just were both making our own

03:22:34.500 money, both doing school, but not like having a full job and living together.

03:22:38.380 I feel like just opening the door and doing those chivalrous things are just kind of like,

03:22:43.740 I mean, it's your boyfriend or girlfriend.

03:22:45.940 I mean, it's what you should just do.

03:22:47.660 Fair point.

03:22:48.180 There's not there's not a whole bunch of things that women can do early on.

03:22:52.320 But I mean, one of the key things would be at least being feminine, I suppose, and being

03:22:59.680 submissive.

03:23:01.520 But women, I think, want to reject being submissive.

03:23:04.380 But what is realistically being feminine in like the dating phase of a relationship?

03:23:09.840 Because like, again, about it's like this outlandish example.

03:23:15.020 So like realistically, like I feel like bowing was also not a great example for today.

03:23:19.700 Yeah.

03:23:19.860 Like what do most men want that woman can do in the dating phase to like reconcile the

03:23:24.700 different standards?

03:23:25.940 Yeah.

03:23:26.140 So as it relates to the bow, I don't think I understand that it's unique, but the essence

03:23:31.440 of like the underlying essence of it, it's not something that just coalesced out of the

03:23:37.220 ether.

03:23:38.220 Like there is some greater component to the bow that is rooted in a more submissive dynamic.

03:23:49.700 And this idea that you will defer.

03:23:52.300 No, it's not even sexual thing.

03:23:53.880 It's this idea that women will defer to male leadership.

03:23:57.280 So there's this component of dating.

03:23:59.800 Like, and women say they want men who are decisive and take action and are leaders.

03:24:06.900 I've heard that.

03:24:07.620 And look, maybe not all women.

03:24:09.380 Just by the way, everything I say, it's not all men, not all women.

03:24:13.080 Just want to throw that out there.

03:24:14.480 General principles here.

03:24:16.220 Can I add to that?

03:24:17.600 One thing.

03:24:18.220 Hold on.

03:24:18.640 One thing.

03:24:19.460 And so you'll have women who say, well, my boyfriend just constantly, I'm like, he's

03:24:27.520 like, I asked him, uh, what do you want to eat?

03:24:30.260 And he's like, oh, whatever you want, babe.

03:24:32.200 Like they'll dislike that sort of indecisiveness in men.

03:24:36.740 But I think that they're women want men to be leaders.

03:24:41.660 To have like that nature, right?

03:24:43.360 That nature to them.

03:24:44.800 But I see a lack of women willing to be followers because I can't lead somebody who there can't

03:24:53.960 be a cooperation, like she, if she's going to be like mutinous or maybe that's a crazy

03:24:59.100 word, like have a mutiny or some shit.

03:25:02.760 I can't lead somebody that's not willing to follow.

03:25:05.440 So if you want to follow my lead, if you want me to be a leader, you need to follow,

03:25:12.940 which means you need to defer to my leadership.

03:25:15.840 But the leader follower relationship is not like the equal dynamic that you're like advocating

03:25:22.020 for, because obviously I'm not advocating for equal, but in terms of like women being

03:25:27.600 just as chivalrous as men, like expectation, but that's what conversation you're saying.

03:25:32.820 So you're saying like, okay, like women want men to have like this kind of decisive leader

03:25:37.800 nature, right?

03:25:39.640 And like women should have the nature that corresponds to that of being like kind of followers.

03:25:43.680 And I think that like women being like kind of having like a soft, gentle, caring, kind,

03:25:50.520 I think that nature that women can have, which is reasonable.

03:25:53.220 I think that that's something that like I'd be willing to do in a relationship.

03:25:56.040 I think that's reasonable.

03:25:57.480 I think, and that's like the underlying nature, I guess you're pointing out behind bowing,

03:26:02.480 if I'm not wrong.

03:26:03.740 Like the submissiveness.

03:26:05.700 So I don't think there's anything wrong with, I can agree with women, like the expectation

03:26:10.260 of woman having that nature, so long as it's not something weird like bowing that I wouldn't

03:26:14.420 be comfortable doing.

03:26:16.200 So I think that's how a woman could correspond to the expectation for men.

03:26:20.020 Right.

03:26:20.460 But I don't see women doing that.

03:26:22.080 For example, I mean, even, even the things that you would expect even deep in the relationship,

03:26:26.240 you want to get, you want to get married.

03:26:28.000 That's super traditional, but hyphenate, keep my last name, kids hyphenate.

03:26:34.900 And if, if the man I'm with like talked to me and was like, oh, I would really prefer it

03:26:39.400 if you took my last name again, earlier, I didn't say I'd outright refuse to do that.

03:26:43.740 I would be, but it would be a conversation, right?

03:26:46.080 But it's like, again, like, isn't that healthy to have a conversation about that?

03:26:50.180 Well, it seems like, again, women's roles are negotiable here.

03:26:53.540 So for example, for the women here who said men should pay on first dates, hold on, hold

03:26:58.680 on.

03:26:59.500 For the women here who said men should pay on first dates and that's your position, you're

03:27:05.500 going to have a massive issue if the guy wants to negotiate that role.

03:27:09.420 He's like, hey, um, I know I asked you on the first date, blah, blah, blah.

03:27:14.480 But like, how do you feel about going 50, 50?

03:27:17.620 Some women might be okay with that.

03:27:19.880 I feel like a lot of women are going to be like, you want to negotiate?

03:27:23.880 Like you want to have a con?

03:27:25.280 Women are not going to tolerate the, but hold on, let's negotiate.

03:27:28.840 Let's have the conversation.

03:27:29.820 Or it's like, babe, I want to negotiate if I'm going to protect you.

03:27:34.160 I want to negotiate the protection.

03:27:36.100 I think taking a man's last name is a bigger action than a man opening a door for you.

03:27:41.700 That's like your name.

03:27:43.060 That's like your identity.

03:27:43.920 That's kind of a bigger thing.

03:27:45.480 Sure.

03:27:46.260 I grant that.

03:27:46.720 Which is why that's more of a conversation than like little acts of chivalry that I'd prefer.

03:27:51.080 Well, hold on.

03:27:51.560 I mean, that's one comparison, but if we're looking at like, I would argue the total act

03:27:59.440 of being a provider is a way bigger ask than the woman taking one day to go to the courthouse

03:28:05.680 to apply to get a name change and doing the corresponding.

03:28:09.500 Okay.

03:28:09.860 You got to change some shit with your bank, whatever, blah, blah, blah.

03:28:13.320 It's really not that difficult.

03:28:14.620 In my life, I don't expect a man to financially cover all my needs.

03:28:18.260 I plan to cover my own needs too.

03:28:20.020 Didn't you say you want to take some time off when you?

03:28:22.840 Yeah.

03:28:23.160 And in return for that, I'm going to be raising a child, right?

03:28:26.880 Yes.

03:28:27.500 So that makes up for that.

03:28:28.840 That would be one of your feminine duties.

03:28:31.120 Which I said is acceptable for there to be feminine duties.

03:28:34.960 Right.

03:28:35.380 But it seems like there's a complete rejection of some of the more traditional dynamics.

03:28:42.980 Like for example, when the guy proposes to you, you said, do you want the guy to propose?

03:28:48.140 Like, should he be the one who proposes?

03:28:50.020 Should he get down?

03:28:51.280 Ah, here we go.

03:28:52.220 This is the perfect one.

03:28:53.520 Should a man get down on one knee to propose?

03:28:58.000 Like you wouldn't want...

03:28:59.040 Go ahead.

03:28:59.340 Sorry.

03:28:59.520 Answer the question.

03:29:01.040 I mean, that's kind of like the image of a proposal.

03:29:04.040 The tradition, right?

03:29:05.200 You wouldn't want a guy to just...

03:29:08.080 Daniella.

03:29:11.660 Just throw it at you.

03:29:12.900 Hits your head.

03:29:13.760 You wouldn't want that.

03:29:15.420 I would want that.

03:29:16.880 You want a guy to just...

03:29:17.980 Oh, sorry.

03:29:18.420 To like...

03:29:18.620 Hey, catch.

03:29:19.540 Oh, sorry.

03:29:20.140 I thought you meant kneeling.

03:29:21.200 We're engaged now.

03:29:21.660 I thought you meant kneeling.

03:29:22.480 I would like it if a man like...

03:29:24.480 Kneeled.

03:29:24.940 Yeah.

03:29:25.280 Got down.

03:29:25.860 But that's something that is common and expected.

03:29:28.760 It's...

03:29:29.080 You know what's crazy?

03:29:30.180 That's something normal.

03:29:30.640 Getting down on one knee...

03:29:31.560 It's interesting.

03:29:32.640 Getting down on one knee is way more submissive and like bitch made.

03:29:38.940 Is it really?

03:29:39.940 Oh, yeah.

03:29:40.600 Do you think a man...

03:29:41.560 Getting down on one knee...

03:29:43.080 Please, will you marry?

03:29:44.520 It's way fucking...

03:29:45.960 I don't want to do that.

03:29:46.720 If you proposed to your wife one day, would you feel...

03:29:48.940 It's way...

03:29:49.040 She's laughing because she's like...

03:29:50.540 Wait, hold on.

03:29:51.060 That makes sense.

03:29:51.960 But it's way...

03:29:52.940 It's not really submissive.

03:29:54.240 Would you...

03:29:54.580 Okay, question.

03:29:55.340 Would you rather bow?

03:29:57.020 Or would you rather get down on one knee?

03:29:59.880 Get down on one knee.

03:30:00.900 For...

03:30:01.340 Really?

03:30:02.360 Yeah, because bowing is...

03:30:04.020 Bowing is like, oh, like, you're my master or some weird shit like that.

03:30:07.140 Like, getting down on one knee, like, that doesn't have the same connotations.

03:30:10.180 I think it's supposed to, like, show that you care and, like, your intentions.

03:30:12.620 If you do it so casually, then it's like, oh, it's not as serious.

03:30:15.080 I just slide that shit across.

03:30:16.880 Yeah, that's, like, too casual.

03:30:17.160 I think it's a big ask.

03:30:18.060 We're engaged now.

03:30:19.080 Well, I mean, if that's your relationship with each other and then you know each other that

03:30:22.620 well, then I guess...

03:30:23.520 Oh, how about this?

03:30:24.240 How much should a guy pay for the ring?

03:30:27.280 Like, if you just bought...

03:30:28.120 Like, this is from Amazon, right?

03:30:29.180 Like, $10.

03:30:30.440 Would you guys be happy with that, you know, $10 ring?

03:30:33.320 I would.

03:30:35.020 Okay, well, my point is that I'm willing...

03:30:37.000 I love rings.

03:30:37.800 I don't care how they look.

03:30:38.740 Okay.

03:30:39.380 I'm willing to take on a degree of feminine duties so long as the man is willing to take

03:30:44.300 on...

03:30:44.320 Who are you talking to, by the way?

03:30:45.140 You've just been looking down here the entire show.

03:30:48.440 Sorry.

03:30:49.260 Okay.

03:30:51.160 I was just saying, I think it's acceptable for women to take on feminine duties the same

03:30:55.520 way it is for a man to do that.

03:30:56.800 Sure.

03:30:57.040 And it doesn't have to be, like, a complete set of things that you have to do on both

03:31:00.240 sides.

03:31:01.020 Okay.

03:31:01.300 Like, can I chime in on something?

03:31:03.120 Yeah, yeah.

03:31:03.520 Sure.

03:31:03.980 Okay.

03:31:04.220 So, with the traditional male roles, I can kind of see what you're saying on the topic

03:31:08.700 of, like, there's not a lot for women to do outside of living with one another.

03:31:12.360 Like, in order to do someone's laundry, you kind of have to go to their house and do

03:31:17.460 that.

03:31:17.620 Like, that's a lot more work than just opening the door, per se, right?

03:31:21.720 Well, I believe the girl should bow...

03:31:23.460 Sorry, not bow.

03:31:24.120 Well, she should bow.

03:31:25.140 She should do the laundry, like, first date.

03:31:27.580 What?

03:31:27.940 First date.

03:31:29.800 Are you going on a date to the laundry room?

03:31:32.060 No, no.

03:31:32.600 Like, well, okay.

03:31:33.740 Let me rephrase.

03:31:34.480 The first time the girl comes over to my house, she should do the laundry.

03:31:40.420 I feel like that's crazy.

03:31:41.780 That's so valid.

03:31:42.980 Wait.

03:31:43.400 What I...

03:31:44.040 Why are you the laundry?

03:31:44.880 If I go over to your house, you want the girl...

03:31:47.740 You want to go do it?

03:31:48.700 The laundry?

03:31:49.200 No, but I'm, like, do your laundry.

03:31:51.420 No, but, like, why your laundry?

03:31:53.780 Why not you do your own laundry?

03:31:59.000 Because, you know what?

03:32:00.860 You know, like, how when...

03:32:03.180 You can take the hat off, by the way.

03:32:05.400 I mean, I like to keep it on.

03:32:06.820 It's cute.

03:32:07.440 Okay.

03:32:08.260 All right.

03:32:09.120 Do you want me to clip it?

03:32:10.420 Yeah.

03:32:11.880 So, look, there's just something...

03:32:12.960 I'm just like, if it's your own laundry, it's fair for you to just do it yourself, right?

03:32:17.100 Look, a woman will fold...

03:32:18.020 Not get your girl to do it.

03:32:19.820 A woman will fold laundry with love, and it's just...

03:32:23.380 When I put that t-shirt on that she folded, it just warms my heart.

03:32:28.320 And I...

03:32:28.880 You know, it's better that the woman does it.

03:32:30.720 So, do your laundry, but let your girl fold it.

03:32:34.480 No, well, look, sometimes...

03:32:36.420 I'll be nice.

03:32:37.280 I'll be nice.

03:32:38.460 So, I'll put it in the wash, and then maybe I'll put it in the dryer, but she folds it.

03:32:44.140 First time.

03:32:45.120 Second time, though, she does the whole thing.

03:32:47.900 Because I'm a gentleman like that.

03:32:49.520 Okay, now that sounds better.

03:32:52.820 Bella, you had a strong reaction there.

03:32:54.960 No, I just...

03:32:55.940 Into the mic, a little closer.

03:32:57.160 Sorry.

03:32:57.500 I think it's funny.

03:32:59.920 It's funny, because it's true.

03:33:02.480 Private chat.

03:33:03.960 Private chat?

03:33:04.740 Okay, hold on.

03:33:05.780 We have some chats coming through.

03:33:07.080 We're going to stick...

03:33:07.700 We're going to come back to this convo, though.

03:33:09.580 Can you read this one for me?

03:33:11.140 Sorry, Brian, but bowing for a woman is insane.

03:33:16.060 That act in itself would ruin the gender polarity attraction.

03:33:20.520 Submissive behavior from a woman is attractive, not the other way around.

03:33:24.380 Massive L take.

03:33:26.140 Okay.

03:33:27.040 All right.

03:33:29.840 Okay.

03:33:30.280 Blazk donated $200.

03:33:34.200 Ephesians 5.22.

03:33:36.240 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

03:33:40.840 First Timothy 2.12.

03:33:43.020 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use their poor authority over the man, but to be in silence.

03:33:48.820 The thing is, though, is I don't think any of the women here are Christian.

03:33:54.740 I'm Catholic.

03:33:55.700 I'm Catholic.

03:33:56.140 Wait, you're Catholic?

03:33:57.100 Well, I wasn't...

03:33:57.780 Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

03:34:00.380 Christian?

03:34:01.140 Wait, you're Catholic, you're Christian.

03:34:03.040 Catholic.

03:34:04.020 Oh, you're both Catholic.

03:34:05.120 I was baptized.

03:34:06.460 What, yeah?

03:34:07.280 I was Catholic, but I used to be a Buddhist, and then I practiced Hinduism.

03:34:12.520 Fuck yeah.

03:34:13.120 Yeah.

03:34:13.400 I love that for you.

03:34:14.600 Yeah.

03:34:15.120 You were the best Buddhist ever.

03:34:17.720 Anyways, we have more chats coming through, but hold on.

03:34:23.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:34:24.040 Wait, wait, wait.

03:34:27.100 Hold on.

03:34:27.580 Let me try to find that again.

03:34:29.080 Where is it?

03:34:31.220 There's more chats coming through.

03:34:32.340 Where was it?

03:34:34.140 Ephesians 5.22.

03:34:35.460 Wives, submit yourselves onto your own husbands.

03:34:38.220 And by the way, like, you guys won't take your husband's last name, but you're Catholics.

03:34:41.420 I didn't say that.

03:34:42.840 You said you want to hyphenate.

03:34:44.140 I said I would hyphenate it, and I said I wouldn't know,

03:34:46.780 because I'm 20 in college and don't have a husband.

03:34:49.600 But scripture is clear.

03:34:51.200 Columbians are very Catholic.

03:34:52.120 I wouldn't get married, would I?

03:34:54.320 It's outdated?

03:34:55.340 A little bit.

03:34:56.280 A little bit.

03:34:57.020 I guess, or whatever.

03:34:58.440 Or not even, really.

03:34:59.520 It's just outdated.

03:35:00.680 I feel like everything changes.

03:35:01.520 Well, isn't marriage just outdated?

03:35:02.840 Just don't get married.

03:35:03.440 Are you religious?

03:35:04.000 Yeah.

03:35:04.600 Or no?

03:35:05.480 Am I?

03:35:05.560 I'm, so I have very pro-Christian sentiments, but I'm actually agnostic.

03:35:09.960 Oh.

03:35:11.000 Yeah.

03:35:11.320 But I actually, I think.

03:35:12.080 I get agnostic sentiment.

03:35:13.380 You're agnostic?

03:35:14.660 That makes so much sense.

03:35:16.200 Okay, cool.

03:35:17.340 I think Christianity.

03:35:18.220 Why do you take that as a bad way?

03:35:20.340 Like, I wasn't even saying it.

03:35:21.520 That's fine.

03:35:21.540 I think Christianity is a massive positive force.

03:35:24.860 What the fudge?

03:35:25.500 But my belief isn't there, so, yeah.

03:35:28.880 Yeah.

03:35:29.260 Maybe one day, it will be.

03:35:31.140 It will.

03:35:31.440 But at this point, I'm agnostic.

03:35:33.760 Count on my word, it will.

03:35:35.520 That's pretty open-minded.

03:35:37.580 Like, in the sense, oh.

03:35:39.060 Oh, no, go ahead.

03:35:39.500 In the sense that, like, you're kind of a skeptic, or, like, you're open to other beliefs being

03:35:45.380 possible, or, like, what kind of agnosticism?

03:35:48.060 I know some people think of it differently.

03:35:50.340 So, I guess just the belief, the actual belief in God.

03:35:53.940 Like, I don't, my, maybe it's something that will come to me eventually, but in terms of

03:36:00.860 the actual, like, the benefits to society as it relates to Christianity, I think really

03:36:06.580 good.

03:36:07.480 Very, I think Christians are great, don't have any issue with it, but part, and, you know,

03:36:15.280 it's interesting, part of being a Christian is you shouldn't lie as a Christian.

03:36:19.020 So, it would, like, benefit me in various ways to claim I'm a Christian, but until I

03:36:23.920 actually have the belief, then I would never call myself a Christian if I don't actually

03:36:28.840 believe.

03:36:30.060 That's true.

03:36:30.440 But maybe one day, it'll be there.

03:36:34.380 But, yeah.

03:36:35.560 Do you have any other, like, support or, like, positive sentiment with other religions?

03:36:42.040 Just out of two ways.

03:36:42.760 Do I, I mean, I probably have some favoritism towards Christianity, just because...

03:36:48.560 It's more familiar to you, maybe.

03:36:50.180 Sure.

03:36:50.640 Perhaps it's more familiar, but I think the actual doctrine itself, and by the way, I'm

03:36:56.580 not, like, a theologian, so I'm not an expert, but the actual, it's more compelling to me

03:37:05.240 than other religions.

03:37:06.900 So, if you found religion one day, it would most likely be Christianity.

03:37:10.520 Yes.

03:37:11.140 What about Judaism?

03:37:12.660 Because, like, Judeo-Christian values kind of go hand in hand.

03:37:14.820 They're pretty different religions.

03:37:16.400 They're, like, super different.

03:37:18.560 But there's some...

03:37:19.740 I mean...

03:37:21.620 Yeah, but I don't want to, like, get into, like, criticisms of different religions and

03:37:25.940 stuff or whatever, but...

03:37:27.620 If...

03:37:29.620 Yeah.

03:37:30.920 Yeah.

03:37:31.260 Yeah.

03:37:31.740 Anyways, okay, wait.

03:37:32.600 We had to get back to the...

03:37:34.140 Oh, the last name thing.

03:37:35.520 Last name, Christian, Catholic, but...

03:37:37.920 I'm going to say I wouldn't take it.

03:37:39.940 Wait.

03:37:40.720 What?

03:37:40.960 Go ahead, Bella.

03:37:42.520 You got this.

03:37:43.020 We believe in you.

03:37:43.680 That's okay.

03:37:44.500 Bella.

03:37:45.180 No.

03:37:48.400 I think Dowling is...

03:37:49.940 Oh, sorry.

03:37:50.820 I'll let you come in.

03:37:51.660 Hey, Steve, George donated $200.

03:37:53.180 Sorry for the delay, dude.

03:37:54.100 Sorry for the delay.

03:37:54.820 They do any weird things for women, such as vying during a proposal.

03:37:58.460 Yep.

03:37:58.720 Wouldn't a woman wanting to bow occasionally for the man she likes and respects be considered

03:38:03.420 a lovely and romantic thing to do?

03:38:06.280 It would.

03:38:07.480 It would be very...

03:38:08.800 Would it make your heart beat a little more?

03:38:10.500 Like, that kind of romantic?

03:38:12.140 Or, like, is it like a, ooh, it feels good?

03:38:15.600 The truth...

03:38:16.600 You know, honestly, the truth is...

03:38:18.780 I don't actually care for the bow.

03:38:23.500 I can tell you.

03:38:24.960 It sounds like you do, though.

03:38:27.200 I want it, but it's not necessarily because I'm like, I must have this.

03:38:33.060 It's a temperature check for, like, even if she were just to verbalize, oh, yeah, I'm

03:38:38.400 totally fine with the bow.

03:38:39.260 Like, I would absolutely do it.

03:38:40.900 If she showed enthusiasm there, I actually, like, probably, like, if she doesn't do it,

03:38:45.680 I'm not, like, I don't care.

03:38:48.100 But it's a temperature check for, is she going to be submissive to me in other ways?

03:38:54.900 Is she going to defer to me in other ways?

03:38:57.080 If she won't defer to me on this, she's not going to defer to me on pretty much anything

03:39:03.100 in the relationship.

03:39:03.620 So it's like a bow if you care about me kind of thing, or like...

03:39:07.520 No, not even.

03:39:08.460 It's just I want to see the willingness there.

03:39:11.520 And, like, if she's not willing, then I'm going to be questioning, well, what else is she

03:39:21.820 going to fight me on?

03:39:22.580 Well, that's a better intention, like, just to see, like, their devotion.

03:39:26.060 Like, I get that.

03:39:27.160 But if it was to, like, show an act of submission, like, forceful, like, in that kind of sense...

03:39:32.800 I've never forced one to do it.

03:39:34.320 Well, I feel like a submission thing is, like, oh, you're...

03:39:37.260 Like, I don't know.

03:39:37.820 I feel like it kind of alludes to maybe that kind of dynamic.

03:39:41.620 But, yeah, I don't know.

03:39:43.440 I feel like the intention is important.

03:39:45.200 So it's like, if that was the case, then I think a lot of people would give maybe different

03:39:48.940 answers.

03:39:49.660 Same, yeah.

03:39:50.740 Okay, we have Pasty George here.

03:39:54.500 Pasty George donated $200.

03:39:57.180 He's got a crush on him, I think.

03:39:58.540 It's cool that you question CK and the events surrounding him, as well as other things.

03:40:04.180 But the feminism that you clearly are infected with is going to be your downfall.

03:40:10.440 I think the feminism I believe in is women having agency over the decisions they make

03:40:15.820 and pursuing what they want to pursue.

03:40:18.540 And I don't think that's going to lead to my downfall.

03:40:21.320 We have another one from Pasty George, and then another one.

03:40:24.480 Pasty George donated $200.

03:40:26.680 A man getting down on one knee to propose marriage to the woman he is in love with is

03:40:32.180 a traditional humiliation, as well as a submission ritual.

03:40:35.520 And that's just one of many.

03:40:37.540 What do women do?

03:40:40.640 There's nothing wrong.

03:40:41.440 Bear and raise children.

03:40:44.060 Are they now?

03:40:45.660 I mean, I would want to in my relationship one day.

03:40:47.700 I'll get you in in just a sec, Bella.

03:40:49.840 That's okay.

03:40:50.400 Just one.

03:40:51.680 That's like the whole thing with...

03:40:52.720 No, we can't just skip over you, Bella.

03:40:54.540 Have you donated $200?

03:40:56.140 To the Catholics on the panel, did you go to Mass this morning?

03:41:00.760 I asked.

03:41:01.900 I was going to go to church, and then I said it was at 7, and then you guys said I wouldn't

03:41:06.580 be able to make it.

03:41:08.420 Oh, yeah.

03:41:09.020 Yeah, same thing.

03:41:10.880 Also, for...

03:41:11.480 May I come do the show?

03:41:12.420 But I went last Sunday.

03:41:14.000 That's fine.

03:41:14.320 I met the Pope, like, a little bit ago.

03:41:18.800 Wait, like, the...

03:41:20.680 Well, he, like...

03:41:21.620 Wait, wait, wait.

03:41:22.660 Hold on.

03:41:23.600 You're talking about the Pope of the Vatican?

03:41:26.800 What other Pope?

03:41:28.460 Oh, you met the Pope.

03:41:29.900 Yeah.

03:41:30.540 Okay, I thought you were talking about, like, a local priest or something.

03:41:33.700 Okay, moving off of that, though.

03:41:36.360 Really quick question, though.

03:41:37.760 So, you said, you know, you've never really done anything with guys.

03:41:41.500 You're a virgin.

03:41:42.140 Are you waiting until marriage?

03:41:45.360 I'm waiting until I see that kind of commitment, where it's, like, that kind of devotion.

03:41:50.860 Like, I want that in any sense of dating.

03:41:55.540 Okay.

03:41:56.420 All right.

03:41:57.220 There was a chat just before that went away.

03:41:59.100 Yes, I'll have you read it.

03:42:00.180 Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

03:42:03.380 Chair one was asking what men want.

03:42:05.320 Most men want non-feminist, submissive, home-oriented, like cooking, low body count.

03:42:11.360 Chair five's ex-boyfriend's mom was spot on about her.

03:42:15.200 All of them are toxic, except for chair nine.

03:42:18.580 All of them are toxic?

03:42:20.000 Are you guys going to allow?

03:42:21.840 I think if a man wants a woman who is home-oriented and has a low body count, that's okay.

03:42:29.600 And there's nothing wrong with that.

03:42:30.640 I can accept that.

03:42:32.260 And then, can you read this?

03:42:34.740 Nobody wants a Jenner.

03:42:35.760 We want a real woman.

03:42:37.060 Men are willing to give you their whole world.

03:42:39.500 Why can't you give that back?

03:42:41.400 A bow is the least that we ask for if you're bringing nothing to the table.

03:42:45.480 I think value is relational.

03:42:47.180 If you add something to a man's life and he adds something to yours, you're both inherently valuable to each other.

03:42:52.100 So, I don't think women are bringing nothing to the table in a relationship.

03:42:55.420 Thank you for the soup chat.

03:42:56.340 Appreciate that.

03:42:57.660 And let's see here.

03:43:00.800 We had...

03:43:01.740 Oh, Bella, you had something.

03:43:02.920 Go ahead.

03:43:03.400 I forgot.

03:43:04.220 Okay, that's fine.

03:43:05.760 Hold on.

03:43:06.240 I want to double check.

03:43:07.380 Was there another one that came through?

03:43:10.300 I feel like we had one that...

03:43:11.940 Shit.

03:43:13.380 Did we miss a hundred?

03:43:20.660 Oh, massive.

03:43:22.020 Did we read this one from Dave?

03:43:25.260 Yeah, we read that one.

03:43:26.200 Did we read it?

03:43:26.980 Yeah.

03:43:27.240 Okay.

03:43:28.300 Kablask.

03:43:28.780 I promise you we're going to get the champagne.

03:43:30.500 And I just...

03:43:31.720 I got to finish up a few more things related to this because it's all related, but I promise I'll get it.

03:43:35.680 We have a couple chats here.

03:43:38.920 Sorry, this one's below the threshold.

03:43:40.780 Then we'll do a hundred.

03:43:41.940 I'll have you read the hundred one.

03:43:44.160 Oh, wait.

03:43:44.660 Maybe I did pull this one up earlier.

03:43:46.500 Go, Brian.

03:43:47.060 Thank you for that.

03:43:49.160 Oh, wait.

03:43:49.600 We might have...

03:43:50.740 Did we...

03:43:51.400 Do you want to just read it?

03:43:52.300 I think we might have pulled it, but whatever.

03:43:53.540 We did read that.

03:43:56.680 And then did this one come through?

03:43:58.820 Are you sure we read that?

03:44:00.060 I think we did, yeah.

03:44:00.780 Okay.

03:44:01.600 And I might have...

03:44:03.720 Who is this?

03:44:05.180 Who sent this one in?

03:44:06.100 It's coming in just...

03:44:06.800 Sorry, guys, for the delay.

03:44:08.820 $200 TTS.

03:44:09.960 Read a hundred.

03:44:10.960 Did this one come through?

03:44:11.680 We did read this.

03:44:13.040 We did.

03:44:14.120 Did it?

03:44:14.520 Yeah.

03:44:14.920 Mexican-American Marine.

03:44:16.460 Kirk Steffi.

03:44:17.160 Oh, fuck.

03:44:18.420 All right.

03:44:19.420 Okay.

03:44:19.860 We're going to do...

03:44:21.720 Are you coming back to the table?

03:44:23.540 Oh, she's eating?

03:44:25.960 Okay.

03:44:26.720 Oh, this one's crazy.

03:44:29.660 Fuck.

03:44:30.160 Okay.

03:44:30.440 Whatever.

03:44:32.120 Hold on.

03:44:33.600 Oh, boy.

03:44:34.280 All right.

03:44:34.640 Fuck it.

03:44:34.960 Whatever.

03:44:35.320 We'll do it.

03:44:36.440 Hello?

03:44:37.020 Oh, we're waiting on the skip.

03:44:38.520 Okay.

03:44:38.740 One sec, guys.

03:44:39.300 It's coming in.

03:44:41.800 Can you read this one from...

03:44:43.300 Andrew Tate.

03:44:45.180 Would you falsely accuse a man of...

03:44:49.760 Would you falsely accuse a man of for...

03:44:52.500 There's a grape emoji, but it's not showing it.

03:44:54.700 Oh.

03:44:55.140 So, essay.

03:44:56.320 For $100,000?

03:44:57.460 For a million dollars?

03:44:59.300 What about...

03:45:00.160 Oh.

03:45:00.960 What about if you could go back in time and stop Donald Trump for becoming president?

03:45:04.800 I would not falsely accuse a man of rape for any amount of money.

03:45:07.640 That's disgusting.

03:45:08.240 Or even going back in time and Trump wouldn't be president?

03:45:13.500 I mean, if there's a way for Trump to...

03:45:15.880 I mean, he got democratically elected, so as much as I don't like him...

03:45:19.040 That's like misinformation.

03:45:20.800 Why are you...

03:45:21.140 No, no.

03:45:21.200 Sorry.

03:45:21.480 He got...

03:45:21.900 Why are you air quoting that?

03:45:23.140 I just don't like Trump.

03:45:24.100 Okay.

03:45:24.500 But anyways, he got democratically elected, so I wouldn't go back in time and prevent that

03:45:28.880 from happening.

03:45:29.620 Okay.

03:45:30.100 What about you?

03:45:30.960 Would you...

03:45:32.340 I wouldn't...

03:45:33.600 Can I just have you scoot into the table just a little bit?

03:45:35.780 Yeah.

03:45:36.060 You wouldn't what?

03:45:37.940 I would never falsely accuse someone.

03:45:40.260 Okay.

03:45:40.480 Even for money?

03:45:41.680 Even a million...

03:45:42.000 No circumstance.

03:45:42.920 Okay.

03:45:43.200 What about you?

03:45:45.160 Falsely accuse...

03:45:46.180 Wait.

03:45:46.520 Accused someone?

03:45:48.860 I was...

03:45:49.580 I literally just got back.

03:45:50.960 Would you falsely accuse a man of S.A. for $100,000?

03:45:54.660 No.

03:45:55.180 A million dollars?

03:45:56.140 Mm-hmm.

03:45:56.900 To prevent president...

03:45:58.320 To prevent Trump from becoming president?

03:46:00.360 Mm-hmm.

03:46:00.800 Okay.

03:46:01.020 What about you?

03:46:01.600 No.

03:46:02.660 No.

03:46:03.380 Nothing?

03:46:03.620 Nothing?

03:46:05.420 Ooh.

03:46:06.060 Okay.

03:46:07.960 Okay.

03:46:09.160 So, to prevent Trump from becoming president, I'm like, he's already a felon, so what does

03:46:18.900 I even make...

03:46:19.620 Lawfare.

03:46:20.480 New York State lawfare, and it was what?

03:46:23.160 Oh, my gosh.

03:46:23.480 Some fucking petty financial shit.

03:46:25.460 I'm just saying, he's already a felon, so what good does that make if I choose to make

03:46:31.840 it for him?

03:46:32.160 Oh, my God.

03:46:33.160 Oh, my God.

03:46:33.220 Why do you gotta go there?

03:46:34.660 First off, no, he didn't.

03:46:37.880 He didn't.

03:46:38.480 So, you're saying he's not a felon?

03:46:39.400 Completely fake news.

03:46:40.140 All 34 towns.

03:46:40.920 So, you're saying he's not a felon?

03:46:42.940 No, I'm responding to her.

03:46:44.280 She says, Trump was never convicted of rape.

03:46:45.760 You didn't make that clear.

03:46:46.820 That's why.

03:46:47.260 She won the case, and she...

03:46:50.440 You don't even...

03:46:51.140 It was a civil case.

03:46:52.800 Massive lawfare going on against Trump.

03:46:56.860 He wasn't convicted of rape.

03:46:59.380 As far as I'm concerned, he has...

03:47:00.260 Oh, well, he wasn't convicted of rape, but he had 30 charges.

03:47:03.220 They were, like, financial.

03:47:04.780 He forgot to...

03:47:05.620 I don't know the details on that.

03:47:07.100 It was completely fucking political theater lawfare.

03:47:11.620 There's some, like, financial...

03:47:13.060 I don't know.

03:47:13.380 What was it, Nick?

03:47:14.040 He paid for something or didn't do proper accounting on some shit.

03:47:18.640 Whatever.

03:47:19.460 So, would you say Trump has never sexually harassed or assaulted a woman ever?

03:47:23.820 Well, I can say that definitively because I don't know.

03:47:26.920 But there hasn't...

03:47:27.960 Signs point to yes.

03:47:28.660 Beyond a reasonable...

03:47:29.740 Signs point to yes.

03:47:31.020 Okay.

03:47:31.760 What prevents somebody from accusing you of having, like, been a pedophile?

03:47:36.420 Signs point to yes.

03:47:37.720 Nothing, but I'm saying there's a lot of claims against Trump.

03:47:40.840 And there's a lot of charges that have been brought up against him.

03:47:43.320 You realize Trump is, like, the most hated man in the world?

03:47:45.960 And, like...

03:47:46.440 As he should.

03:47:46.480 I wonder why.

03:47:47.980 Yeah.

03:47:48.580 Well, so, there's plenty...

03:47:49.300 He's said things himself.

03:47:50.340 There's massive amounts of political motivation.

03:47:53.020 Do you think people just don't lie?

03:47:56.840 People lie?

03:47:57.460 What is that pointing to?

03:47:58.680 People will murder people for, like, totally petty reasons.

03:48:01.580 I mean, billionaires are never good people.

03:48:02.800 People will absolutely lie about a bunch of things.

03:48:06.180 If it's politically expedient to, like, make a false claim about a politician,

03:48:10.480 we saw this happen with a bunch of politicians.

03:48:13.640 And, Bo, you know, it happened with Democrats, too.

03:48:16.680 But as it relates to Trump, as it relates to Kavanaugh, these claims, like, if you actually

03:48:21.400 look into these cases...

03:48:23.220 And, look, there are valid claims of these crimes.

03:48:26.900 But if you look at these specific allegations, these are, like, happened 20, 30 years ago.

03:48:33.520 And the claims are so ridiculously vague.

03:48:37.180 It's completely lawfare.

03:48:38.840 These women are politically motivated.

03:48:40.440 And they're kind of mentally unwell.

03:48:42.240 So, okay, most politicians don't have as many charges and claims about relating to, like, sexual...

03:48:47.360 Donald Trump is the preeminent politician for the past decade.

03:48:50.740 Most presidents haven't had that many charges and claims relating to sexual harassment and assault.

03:48:56.080 I'm still talking.

03:48:56.720 Hold on, hold on.

03:48:57.340 Hold on, let me just...

03:48:58.360 One point.

03:48:59.020 There's a massive political machine that wanted to do pretty much everything they possibly

03:49:05.440 could to ensure that President Trump could not become president again.

03:49:10.180 Massive, massive political machine to do it.

03:49:13.800 So they tried to assassinate him more than two times.

03:49:17.640 It was twice, but I think maybe even other attempts.

03:49:21.140 So, look, we don't know the truth of what happened here.

03:49:23.800 But if you actually looked at the specific person you're referencing, and then especially

03:49:28.600 if we look at this Kavanaugh thing, I don't know if you recall what happened with the Supreme

03:49:32.720 Court Justice Kavanaugh, massive political incentive to lie about this.

03:49:38.300 As far as my understanding goes, and that I'm aware, there was a woman who brought a charge

03:49:42.740 against Trump about him.

03:49:44.820 She brought a civil claim.

03:49:46.100 Okay.

03:49:46.280 Which, by the way, the threshold for evidence, so in criminal cases, it's beyond a reasonable

03:49:54.200 doubt.

03:49:55.320 The threshold is far lower.

03:49:57.940 Not to mention, who knows, the jury selection in New York.

03:50:01.960 Massive, massive political interest in making sure this person was prosecuted.

03:50:07.700 So, or not prosecuted, excuse me, found guilty of this.

03:50:10.740 Like, would you acknowledge that somebody could be, well, in civil cases, it's found

03:50:16.280 liable, I guess.

03:50:17.740 But even in found guilty for criminal cases, I don't think they use the term guilt in civil

03:50:25.640 cases.

03:50:26.860 Would you agree that you could be found guilty of a crime, but not have actually committed

03:50:32.380 the crime?

03:50:33.020 Like, is it possible?

03:50:34.880 Yeah.

03:50:35.080 False incarceration happens all the time.

03:50:36.960 Exonerations all the time.

03:50:38.400 We see this all the time, especially if this is something that's important to you.

03:50:42.780 We actually see black men frequently thrown under the bus by white women who either experience

03:50:49.240 regret or social shame for having had a consensual sexual encounter with a black man.

03:50:54.820 There's all kinds of reasons why these fake allegations are made.

03:50:58.100 There's also a lot of true allegations.

03:50:59.440 Sure, there are.

03:51:00.580 Absolutely.

03:51:01.320 This crime is absolutely something that happens.

03:51:03.760 But we see a disproportionate impact on black men, for example, where they've been in prison

03:51:10.020 for years and years and years, and they have their life ruined by a false allegation of

03:51:15.160 this sort.

03:51:16.740 I mean, again, when it comes to Trump, when I'm considering, okay, what could be true?

03:51:22.240 And I see a large amount of claims brought up against Trump regarding sexual harassment,

03:51:28.240 sexual assault.

03:51:28.860 And I've also heard the statements he's made, like, oh, grab them by, you know, that kind

03:51:33.020 of thing that he said.

03:51:34.160 Also, the weird ways he's acted towards women.

03:51:38.420 Actually, in the high school I went to, they had a school trip where they visited a Trump

03:51:42.420 convention, and he touched one of the girls slightly inappropriately, and it became a whole

03:51:47.100 article.

03:51:47.340 Oh, you'd have to point to Joe Biden being a fucking creepy weirdo.

03:51:50.440 I don't like Joe Biden, I don't like Joe Biden, so that's definitely not something that, anyways.

03:51:55.920 But, like, when I'm evaluating, okay, what kind of person is Trump, and I see the amount

03:52:00.140 of these claims, I've seen his statements, and I've seen his behaviors, oh, that's kind

03:52:05.920 of the direction I go in evaluating that.

03:52:08.560 Like, there's an overall pattern, there's an overall trend.

03:52:13.080 Okay, but I think you would need to provide, at least me, you need to provide evidence beyond

03:52:19.100 a reasonable doubt.

03:52:20.440 And these civil cases, the level of evidence required is very, very low.

03:52:28.140 There's massive political, and shut up back there, there's massive political incentive

03:52:33.580 to get this guy, muddy this guy's name up.

03:52:37.200 It's a political hit job.

03:52:39.820 This happens on both sides of the aisle, these political hit jobs.

03:52:42.760 It's a really effective way to tarnish somebody's reputation.

03:52:49.060 It's been done on both sides of the aisles.

03:52:51.560 Trump obviously has, like, a massive bullseye on him.

03:52:55.140 So, ultimately, nobody was really there when this happened.

03:53:00.820 I personally, after having extensively reviewed the actual complaint, and actually hearing,

03:53:06.520 like, this woman explain everything that's going on, there's, like, inconsistencies in

03:53:10.580 her story.

03:53:11.340 She doesn't seem totally there.

03:53:13.100 There's massive incentive for this to be a political hit job.

03:53:19.460 But, yeah.

03:53:20.640 I also do believe he probably did something.

03:53:24.100 It's like, he probably committed some form of...

03:53:25.940 Where's the evidence?

03:53:26.340 There's no evidence for it.

03:53:27.720 Well, the evidence I'm pointing to is just the amount of claims that have been brought

03:53:30.600 up against him, the things he said, and his behavior is, it points to the fact that he's

03:53:33.480 likely made women uncomfortable.

03:53:36.240 Well, hold on.

03:53:36.880 Making women uncomfortable while wrong isn't a crime.

03:53:40.840 Sexually harassed women.

03:53:43.040 Okay, but now we're shifting the goalposts here.

03:53:45.240 First, it was Trump's a rapist, which, by the way, it wasn't even true in the civil case.

03:53:49.960 He hasn't been convicted of any sort of criminal offense at all related to any sexual assault.

03:53:55.480 There was a civil case, again, the burden of evidence.

03:53:58.960 It's way lower.

03:53:59.940 What is it?

03:54:00.340 A preponderance of the evidence.

03:54:02.560 Preponderance of the evidence.

03:54:04.480 Massive political bias in the New York, I believe, is in the New York state court system.

03:54:09.320 Massive bias there.

03:54:09.600 So did that not happen?

03:54:10.600 Did he, for sure, definitively not rape her?

03:54:12.200 I can't.

03:54:12.720 It's unfalsifiable.

03:54:13.860 I can't definitively say one way or the other if it happened.

03:54:17.220 But in terms of, like, do you believe in innocent until proven guilty?

03:54:22.700 I mean, like, when it comes...

03:54:23.660 Hold on.

03:54:24.360 You don't believe in innocent until proven guilty?

03:54:26.240 Like, the bedrock foundation of the American justice system?

03:54:29.460 Sure, I do.

03:54:29.840 Okay.

03:54:30.180 It seems like you don't.

03:54:31.500 But, like, when it comes to, like, sexual assault, I think it is important to believe victims.

03:54:37.440 It's important to believe victims.

03:54:39.440 Like, if a woman comes forward and says she's been sexually assaulted, I think she shouldn't be, like, ignored.

03:54:44.320 I think so.

03:54:44.660 I think it should be explored by, hopefully she goes to the police.

03:54:48.760 Right.

03:54:49.040 And hopefully the police does a thorough investigation.

03:54:51.800 And, you know, but why would you immediately jump the gun to should be believed?

03:54:58.920 Well, again, like, I would advocate for what you're saying, that that should be investigated and explored.

03:55:03.360 So your own personal standard is not innocent until proven guilty?

03:55:08.360 I believe in...

03:55:11.540 Okay, hold on.

03:55:12.340 I believe in innocent...

03:55:13.220 Again, I'm not saying...

03:55:14.040 Wait, can you straighten your mic a little bit?

03:55:14.660 I'm not saying the person she's accusing is definitively guilty, but I'm saying that that should be paid attention to and investigated and that you shouldn't immediately...

03:55:22.240 Yes, absolutely.

03:55:22.920 Okay, so we're on the same page about that.

03:55:24.620 If a woman brings a claim that something's happened, absolutely.

03:55:27.840 The police should do a thorough investigation.

03:55:30.000 I think she should go to the police.

03:55:31.400 I don't think going to social media should be your first, you know, that shouldn't be your first go-to.

03:55:37.140 I think you should immediately go to the police for the sake of if there's any, like, DNA evidence, absolutely.

03:55:42.860 That should be, like, the first thing you should do.

03:55:44.760 Try to do it immediately.

03:55:45.980 Right.

03:55:46.260 But...

03:55:46.580 That's what I mean when I say, like, giving victims attention and care.

03:55:49.640 Do you think all women who make these allegations, they should always be believed?

03:55:53.020 Like, it's always true?

03:55:55.340 Well, it's not technically always true.

03:55:57.440 Like, a woman could lie about that.

03:55:58.820 Mm-hmm.

03:55:59.380 Okay.

03:55:59.760 Which is why it needs to be investigated and explored, which is where we're on the same page.

03:56:03.680 So I don't see, like, why you're arguing against me right now.

03:56:07.160 Well, you brought it up.

03:56:08.500 I'm asking if your own threshold is you believe in innocent until proven guilty.

03:56:14.560 In this case, she brought it to a civil court, and even in the civil court, he was not found liable for rape.

03:56:21.640 There was some other low-level thing that he was found liable for, but it definitely wasn't rape.

03:56:29.740 What was it?

03:56:31.160 I'm just curious.

03:56:32.020 I don't know the exact...

03:56:32.800 I forget the exact thing, but it definitely wasn't rape.

03:56:35.180 I think there was some...

03:56:37.840 Look, he was found liable for, like, some other form of essay or something.

03:56:44.160 And you're kind of just dismiss...

03:56:45.860 Are you dismissing?

03:56:46.340 I'm not...

03:56:47.240 Well, it's factually true that the totally, totally unbiased New York justice system and

03:56:57.340 the jurists in that jurisdiction, they did find him liable.

03:57:01.880 They found him liable for sexual assault, which means they...

03:57:04.300 By a preponderance of the evidence.

03:57:06.460 By a...

03:57:06.900 Okay, well, wasn't your whole thing about, like, courts finding someone liable for something

03:57:10.460 that is beyond reasonable doubt?

03:57:12.660 She said that he did something, that's the extent of it.

03:57:16.460 And they found evidence, which is why he's liable?

03:57:18.880 What was the evidence?

03:57:19.800 Well, I mean, I don't know the exact court case, but if he was found liable for it, there

03:57:23.800 must have been evidence.

03:57:24.240 The only evidence was she said he did it.

03:57:26.900 Do you think that that's a good threshold for finding someone liable or guilty of some...

03:57:32.220 Well, there was probably some sort of evidence if he was found liable for that.

03:57:38.240 What's the evidence?

03:57:39.500 Well, again, I don't know the exact court case.

03:57:41.620 Okay, but if you want me to believe that somebody has committed, like, a really severe thing,

03:57:48.440 I would want...

03:57:49.540 I want some degree of evidence.

03:57:51.680 What woman is...

03:57:52.500 Like, what evidence is a woman in that situation supposed to have at that point?

03:57:55.800 Like, if it happened...

03:57:56.600 Was she supposed to, like, take photos somehow?

03:57:59.180 Oh, I mean, like, not waiting three decades before making a complaint, waiting until it

03:58:04.800 was perfectly politically convenient and expedient to only bring this claim when there was some

03:58:12.160 political motive.

03:58:14.800 Okay, look, well, what you're saying is that we don't know exactly what happened.

03:58:18.000 Sure, we don't.

03:58:18.400 And I can say that, too.

03:58:20.360 But, again, all I'm saying when it comes to Trump...

03:58:22.340 I wouldn't default to the man did it absent evidence.

03:58:26.800 The reason I'm saying that it's likely that Trump has sexually harassed or sexually assaulted

03:58:31.180 a woman at some point is because the amount of claims that have come against him, the things

03:58:36.200 he said, and his overall...

03:58:38.160 They can bring it to the police, and if the...

03:58:41.000 Trust me, there's plenty of jurisdictions where the prosecutors would absolutely love

03:58:45.560 to prosecute Trump for various sex crimes.

03:58:48.300 They would love to do it because it would be politically expedient because there's massive

03:58:52.380 political bias in most...

03:58:54.180 So I can't think...

03:58:56.220 He lived in New York.

03:58:56.620 He lived in New York State the majority of his life.

03:59:01.680 Democrat state.

03:59:03.020 Democrat prosecutors.

03:59:04.520 So I can't say prosecution.

03:59:05.900 Massive political justification.

03:59:06.520 Why can't they prosecute him?

03:59:10.020 I don't know.

03:59:10.900 Maybe for lack of evidence.

03:59:12.780 Have there not been presidents with lower approval ratings than Trump and, like, politicians

03:59:16.360 with lower approval ratings?

03:59:18.180 Like, even in other countries, like, most politicians don't end up having that sheer

03:59:21.960 amount of claims up against them.

03:59:23.960 You would have...

03:59:24.460 I mean, look, I'm not aware of every single claim that's been made against him.

03:59:28.720 What we can judge based off is the singular civil case that there was.

03:59:33.680 But as far as I'm aware, there's been more claims and accusations brought up against him

03:59:39.120 than just that one civil case.

03:59:41.020 Okay.

03:59:42.000 And so if there's many claims of something that come out...

03:59:44.560 Does that...

03:59:45.440 Then that points to the fact that that could potentially be true.

03:59:47.860 Okay, okay.

03:59:48.320 So if a bunch of people, like if I, in some political cabal, was scheming and doing a conspiracy

03:59:56.780 and we're like, you know what, Shauna, is that...

04:00:00.160 Shauna.

04:00:00.520 Shauna.

04:00:01.520 Shauna, she's politically dangerous.

04:00:03.920 She, we cannot allow her to come to political power.

04:00:07.820 We're going to slander and destroy her reputation.

04:00:10.800 We're going to do every single thing we can to try to paint her in such a way that the...

04:00:18.220 That will taint the opinion and view of her.

04:00:21.960 And we're...

04:00:22.440 You know what?

04:00:22.820 I'm going to get 20 men to say that you grabbed their tushies back at UCSB 30 years ago.

04:00:32.280 So just because a lot of people say something, like said that it happened, does it mean it

04:00:38.760 actually happened?

04:00:40.860 It doesn't mean it actually happened.

04:00:42.520 But when you have a lot of...

04:00:43.920 Okay, what I would say to that is that there's been a lot of politicians that people want

04:00:47.500 to applaud against and want to take down and who people hate and this is not...

04:00:51.400 It's like the way that things have happened with Trump has not happened in other instances

04:00:55.380 that I've seen.

04:00:56.600 Yeah, Trump is a bit of a wild card.

04:00:59.360 But there's massive...

04:01:00.260 And also if I...

04:01:00.920 There's massive political incentive that...

04:01:03.800 And he said this himself.

04:01:04.440 Oh shit, wait, Peo.

04:01:05.460 Holy...

04:01:05.800 Hold on, sorry, sorry, sorry.

04:01:06.960 Oh my God, Peo's going to be pissed.

04:01:09.280 He raided me 12 minutes ago.

04:01:11.720 Ah, he's going to be all upset.

04:01:13.140 Oh, Brian, you did not...

04:01:15.160 Yo, Peo, I don't know if you're still in the chat, man.

04:01:16.820 Thank you for the raid.

04:01:17.500 I apologize.

04:01:18.600 I was in a heated debate about Trump and all this stuff.

04:01:21.780 So thank you for that, man.

04:01:23.120 Thank you, Peo.

04:01:23.760 Yo, guys, if you're still watching from Peo's 12 minutes ago, drop us a follow if you enjoy

04:01:28.440 these streams.

04:01:29.900 Well, I would like to...

04:01:30.720 Honestly, I'll finish off on this thing, but I would like to bring it back to dating.

04:01:34.880 You kind of shoehorned this in here when it was kind of like completely really just

04:01:40.000 this secondary irrelevant thing.

04:01:41.740 And if the will of the people, like, for example, if the majority of the United States

04:01:49.140 population, hypothetical here, is against abortion, then clearly, like, you're fine

04:01:57.980 with that then.

04:01:58.600 So long as a majority of the country wants their political will, then you can't have any

04:02:04.220 counter opinion.

04:02:05.140 Are you asking me if I believe if...

04:02:10.480 Can you rephrase that?

04:02:11.320 Well, you're doing this appeal to the majority.

04:02:14.020 So it...

04:02:14.620 Or not even the majority.

04:02:15.500 You're saying if there's enough people that believe this, appeal to consensus.

04:02:20.080 No, no.

04:02:20.320 I said if there's enough claims of something, then it potentially might be...

04:02:22.940 Is it true?

04:02:23.480 I'm not saying it is true.

04:02:24.500 I'm saying...

04:02:24.720 Like, there's a bunch of people that are pro-life.

04:02:26.360 I'm assuming you're pro-choice, right?

04:02:28.160 I'm pro-choice.

04:02:28.800 Okay.

04:02:29.260 That's political opinion.

04:02:30.760 These are accusations of a crime.

04:02:32.680 That's kind of different.

04:02:33.500 I'm saying if there's a lot of accusations of a certain crime brought up towards someone,

04:02:38.000 and there's also certain statements that they've said that kind of align with that

04:02:40.960 in some way, then it is likely that part of that, it could be true.

04:02:46.520 Okay.

04:02:47.060 So you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty then?

04:02:53.760 Well, that's not what I'm saying.

04:02:56.240 There's...

04:02:56.720 I mean, I would even argue that this would be actually damning...

04:02:59.780 I'm saying that that is...

04:03:00.660 The fact that there's...

04:03:01.260 I would argue that it's actually damning for your position.

04:03:04.620 This idea that there's so many claims, so many claims, yet not one prosecutor who would

04:03:10.500 have massive political incentive to prosecute him, not one prosecutor has been able...

04:03:16.360 Has brought...

04:03:17.320 Has even tried to prosecute him.

04:03:19.220 Not one prosecutor.

04:03:20.960 This would actually seem to bolster...

04:03:21.760 Have you seen how powerful Trump is?

04:03:23.440 He can, like...

04:03:24.240 He could defend himself very well.

04:03:25.920 Like, he can access the...

04:03:27.120 Like, you think he can pull strings himself, too?

04:03:29.240 Uh, okay.

04:03:31.060 That's fine.

04:03:31.720 But in New York, where I would assume he lived there for most of his life, that would probably

04:03:36.880 be the jurisdiction for most of these claims.

04:03:39.160 I think it would actually bolster my position, your argument, that there's been so many claims,

04:03:45.080 but why hasn't anybody actually brought...

04:03:48.380 There's been actually zero for his entire life.

04:03:51.720 No women have brought...

04:03:53.080 I get that some women wait, or whatever, but for some...

04:03:56.800 Some women do do that.

04:03:57.360 Wouldn't you expect...

04:03:58.600 By the way, rape has absolutely been prosecuted in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s.

04:04:04.580 So, yeah, some women don't feel comfortable going to the police.

04:04:07.560 I get that angle.

04:04:08.500 But you'd think if there were so many claims, at least one of them would have opted to,

04:04:13.520 hmm, have pursued a prosecution of him that didn't happen at a really politically convenient

04:04:20.300 time.

04:04:20.820 It's not that easy.

04:04:23.800 It isn't that easy when the figure is as powerful as Trump is, I don't think.

04:04:28.600 Explain to me how Trump's power would preclude you.

04:04:32.780 How would it preclude you from going to the police?

04:04:34.920 It doesn't even have anything to do with Trump.

04:04:37.060 I'm just saying it's not that easy to, like...

04:04:39.800 I understand it can be absolutely difficult after experiencing a trauma to go to the police,

04:04:44.520 and perhaps, you know, that can be difficult.

04:04:47.100 I get that.

04:04:47.860 But women do do that, and you would think, according to her, there's all these cases of

04:04:54.040 accusations.

04:04:55.400 Perhaps at least one of them would have done what other women do, which is to immediately

04:04:59.520 go to the police, even if it was one out of 20.

04:05:03.200 But it's interesting to me that...

04:05:05.060 I think so all of the women waited three decades?

04:05:07.440 Yeah, because, like, I didn't immediately go to the police when it happened.

04:05:11.660 I was scared.

04:05:13.000 I was in panic.

04:05:15.920 Like...

04:05:16.160 Sure, that absolutely...

04:05:17.300 I don't deny that that happens.

04:05:18.400 And it also happened in high school.

04:05:19.900 I didn't want to be looked at as the girl that got assaulted by a football player for the

04:05:25.560 rest of my life.

04:05:26.500 How do you hope to keep rapists accountable if you won't go to the police?

04:05:32.980 That is the mechanism by which we can prosecute and punish rapists.

04:05:38.340 I understand that it's a difficult thing to go through, but any other crime...

04:05:43.180 I already knew he wasn't going to get punished, bro.

04:05:46.220 You need to report it, and you should report it.

04:05:46.660 He was the number one football player on his team.

04:05:49.400 He was not going to get punished.

04:05:52.500 So you think football players just because they can...

04:05:56.100 I'm not just saying just football players.

04:05:57.800 I'm just saying, like, any dude.

04:06:00.740 Look, just to be clear, rape is a fucking disgusting crime.

04:06:03.700 Rape is a terrible crime.

04:06:05.320 It should never happen.

04:06:06.720 I think we should actually have stricter punishments for these kinds of crimes.

04:06:11.260 I wouldn't even...

04:06:12.520 I wouldn't rule out the death penalty for...

04:06:15.220 Proven beyond a reasonable doubt, I wouldn't rule out the death penalty for a rapist.

04:06:19.720 However, you need to go through the appropriate channels if you want to hold these people

04:06:25.100 accountable.

04:06:25.960 So given that there's not been, like, enough definitive evidence that's come out soon enough

04:06:30.100 and women who've gone immediately to the police when it comes to Trump, do you think that

04:06:33.940 all the claims against him, like, all...

04:06:36.440 It's unfalsifiable.

04:06:37.260 Wait, let me ask my question.

04:06:38.180 It's unfalsifiable.

04:06:39.080 I'm asking, do you think it's, like, all, like, some kind of scheme to take him down

04:06:42.560 and it's all politically incentivized?

04:06:44.180 Are you willing to acknowledge that perhaps at least one of these women are politically

04:06:47.340 motivated?

04:06:47.740 Could have been.

04:06:48.400 Okay.

04:06:48.840 But I hope you're willing to acknowledge that at least one of them could be to some degree

04:06:52.300 true.

04:06:52.940 I don't know.

04:06:53.900 It's possible.

04:06:55.380 And I don't know it's possible to use it as well.

04:06:57.580 But at least from my own perspective, I would believe in the burden of proof being beyond

04:07:03.300 a reasonable doubt.

04:07:05.900 Beyond a reasonable doubt.

04:07:07.020 And so far, no jurisdiction.

04:07:11.920 Okay.

04:07:12.360 And I'm not saying he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

04:07:14.360 I'm saying that there is a decent chance that he has done something.

04:07:19.400 Sure.

04:07:19.920 Sure.

04:07:20.700 Okay.

04:07:21.760 I'm glad we're on the same page about that.

04:07:24.240 Do you think that there's a decent chance that he could have committed something in the

04:07:28.440 list of claims that he's been accused of?

04:07:30.300 I wouldn't know.

04:07:32.360 I wouldn't say there's a decent chance.

04:07:33.800 I would just simply say, I don't know.

04:07:35.360 It's possible.

04:07:36.560 Women have made accusations, but to me, in terms of my own perspective, that doesn't reach

04:07:45.040 the, at least the burden of proof that would satisfy me to believe in something.

04:07:50.760 What do you think about the statement he made that I mentioned earlier?

04:07:54.740 Like, grab him by?

04:07:55.840 Yeah.

04:07:56.240 Disgusting.

04:07:57.580 Completely gross.

04:07:58.740 Do you think that someone who maybe has sexually harassed women in the past would say?

04:08:02.880 Do you think those, that statement and that action could potentially have some overlap?

04:08:06.640 Logically, that wouldn't compute whatsoever.

04:08:08.900 Really?

04:08:09.080 If a man said, grab her by the pussy, do you think, like, is the action of a man grabbing

04:08:15.080 a woman in that way, is that sexual harassment?

04:08:17.940 Hold on.

04:08:18.880 So, again, think it's a really gross thing to say.

04:08:22.540 I would never say something like that.

04:08:24.940 That wouldn't be evidence that he's ever raped somebody.

04:08:27.880 I'm not saying it's evidence.

04:08:29.140 I'm obviously not saying it's evidence.

04:08:30.340 I don't think you should, yeah, terrible thing to say.

04:08:32.760 Do you see how those two things are kind of somewhat, maybe have a correlation?

04:08:35.860 If a man says, grab him by the pussy, do you know what?

04:08:41.100 Like, the action of groping a woman.

04:08:42.880 A man says, grope a woman.

04:08:44.300 That's not, no.

04:08:45.420 That's not what he said.

04:08:46.260 You're being disingenuous.

04:08:47.520 What did he say then?

04:08:48.880 What was that statement?

04:08:49.520 What was the exact quote?

04:08:51.180 They said, they let me.

04:08:53.680 Yeah, completely disgusting thing.

04:08:56.540 Disgusting thing to say.

04:08:57.980 Locker room talk or whatever.

04:09:00.780 Super gross.

04:09:01.920 I would never say it.

04:09:02.580 Why is it disgusting?

04:09:04.040 It's just a gross thing to say.

04:09:05.860 And do you think it's kind of like violating towards women's autonomy a little bit?

04:09:10.600 Do you think it's possible somebody can say that and has never grabbed a woman by the pussy?

04:09:17.860 It's possible.

04:09:18.620 But do you think it's more likely that someone who says something like, do you think it's

04:09:22.280 more likely that a normal person would say that or someone who sexually harassed woman

04:09:26.460 would say that?

04:09:27.260 Which is more likely?

04:09:28.500 The two, which is more likely?

04:09:30.540 Let's say there's a person who has never sexually harassed a woman, just a normal person,

04:09:34.420 right?

04:09:35.100 And let's say there is someone who has sexually harassed a woman, who is more likely to have

04:09:39.140 said that?

04:09:41.140 Logically, it doesn't make any sense.

04:09:42.720 That does make sense.

04:09:43.680 It doesn't compute whatsoever.

04:09:44.920 Is someone who has groped a woman more likely to say that statement or someone who has not

04:09:49.460 groped a woman?

04:09:50.220 I don't know.

04:09:51.560 I genuinely can't answer your question.

04:09:53.020 I think you're refusing to answer it.

04:09:54.300 I'm not refusing.

04:09:55.140 Okay.

04:09:55.680 Well, I'll say that.

04:09:56.060 I can't definitively say that.

04:09:57.120 I think someone who has groped a woman is more likely to make that kind of disgusting

04:10:00.940 statement.

04:10:01.640 No, no, no.

04:10:02.140 Hold on.

04:10:02.480 You're switching it up here.

04:10:03.680 The claim would have to be, has somebody, very disingenuous.

04:10:10.160 It's not disingenuous.

04:10:11.180 The claim would have to be, has somebody who said X, are they more likely to have groped

04:10:18.740 a woman?

04:10:19.300 You want to do a reversal, this very rhetorical sleight of hand there.

04:10:25.040 You want to say, is somebody who's actually committed a sexual offense, are they more likely

04:10:29.920 to say X?

04:10:30.820 That's not what I'm arguing.

04:10:32.640 Let's get on the same page.

04:10:34.920 I don't think my question was that disingenuous.

04:10:36.940 No, no, no.

04:10:37.640 I just don't think you like it.

04:10:38.900 I think it pokes a hole in what you're saying.

04:10:42.180 I, how?

04:10:43.580 Because all I'm, all I'm asking, like, okay.

04:10:46.040 Bro, can you not keep bringing it to like, you do realize we're having a conversation

04:10:51.580 and you like had to throw in, by the way, Trump's a rapist.

04:10:56.840 Okay, we can move on from that.

04:10:57.960 Isn't this a debate?

04:10:59.500 Yeah, but it's like, I wanted to talk about other shit.

04:11:01.460 We were talking about fucking.

04:11:01.900 I mean, you've been engaging in that conversation too.

04:11:03.980 So if we can move away from it.

04:11:04.380 Yeah, but I can't just like, if you just throw out a, first off, it's false.

04:11:08.040 Your statement was false.

04:11:08.900 Like, can you walk it back?

04:11:10.980 Okay, take a chill, Paul, honey.

04:11:12.820 Are you mad at me?

04:11:13.580 I was just trying to.

04:11:14.020 I'm a little frustrated just because it's not fair to the rest of the guests that we've

04:11:16.700 been bogged down.

04:11:17.520 Okay, I'm happy to move the topic along.

04:11:19.100 Yeah, but I would at least, like, factually, you're incorrect.

04:11:23.100 Insane.

04:11:23.460 You said he was found guilty of rape.

04:11:25.300 He wasn't found guilty of rape.

04:11:26.480 I said, from my understanding, I think that he has been.

04:11:28.160 And then you corrected that.

04:11:29.020 I'm not, I'm willing, if he's not been found guilty of rape, I'm willing to backtrack on

04:11:32.160 that.

04:11:33.440 He hasn't.

04:11:34.680 Okay.

04:11:35.660 Okay.

04:11:36.440 Do you want to move on from this?

04:11:37.340 I don't want you to get too heated.

04:11:38.700 Do you want a hat, Brian?

04:11:40.160 No, I'm good.

04:11:41.400 I didn't mean to make you angry.

04:11:42.920 I thought we were having a conversation.

04:11:43.720 Well, it's just, it's, I wouldn't say I'm angry.

04:11:46.000 It's just like a sort of a frustration.

04:11:47.380 You're saying like, bro, let the topics move on.

04:11:49.780 Like, well, because we were talking about it and then like a little side thing came

04:11:53.780 through and you want to like, look, if somebody forwards, I feel like it, it would not be fair

04:12:00.200 for me to just allow somebody to assert such a serious claim without confronting it.

04:12:09.180 Like if you throw out something that's an accusation, I feel like I have some duty to

04:12:16.660 counter misinformation.

04:12:18.520 Okay.

04:12:18.720 The way I phrased it before, the way I meant to phrase it, I'm trying to speak like very

04:12:22.020 like gently right now.

04:12:23.600 The way I, I'm aware I phrased it.

04:12:25.640 It's not your tone.

04:12:25.780 I don't care about your tone.

04:12:26.780 Okay.

04:12:27.060 What I believe I said is that to my understanding, Trump was found guilty of rape because that's

04:12:31.800 what I believe.

04:12:32.400 That was what my understanding was.

04:12:33.680 Well, you believe in fake news and misinformation.

04:12:37.160 You can Google this after the show.

04:12:39.320 If you want to send us a message, be like, look, I Googled it.

04:12:41.940 Not the case, unless you want to take my word for it.

04:12:44.600 Not found guilty by either a civil or criminal court of rape.

04:12:48.720 Do you, do you dispute this?

04:12:51.860 I'm not disputing that.

04:12:53.100 Again, my overall stance with Trump and all the claims was that he's probably done something

04:12:57.820 that aligns with those claims.

04:13:00.040 I mean, that's a really dangerous, slippery slope moving away from innocent until proven

04:13:06.460 guilty.

04:13:10.120 How do you determine the truth?

04:13:12.080 Yeah, Brian, like my question is, do you have these sources to back up your statement?

04:13:17.220 Yeah, there was literally the actual determination by the judge.

04:13:24.560 A judge.

04:13:25.680 There's a literal judgment.

04:13:26.960 Yes, the judge made the determination that he was not found liable for rape.

04:13:33.700 Yeah.

04:13:33.960 There's no criminal prosecution of him.

04:13:36.260 He wasn't found criminally guilty of rape.

04:13:38.780 A judge under his administration, of course.

04:13:42.400 No, it was a, it was a Democrat judge in New York.

04:13:48.680 I mean, I don't know.

04:13:50.080 You want me to pull up the actual fucking thing?

04:13:52.780 Okay.

04:13:53.400 I mean, if you like to.

04:13:54.940 Nah, I'm good.

04:13:55.580 Throughout that conversation, I did not.

04:13:57.540 Okay.

04:13:58.480 Throughout that conversation, I did not keep asserting Trump definitively raped this woman.

04:14:02.120 I did not keep asserting that.

04:14:02.980 All right, that's fine.

04:14:03.580 We'll move it on.

04:14:06.020 Blazk donated $200.

04:14:08.780 Question for the ladies.

04:14:10.380 Have you ever provided a man oral sex and let him finish on your face?

04:14:14.940 If so, why would you do that but be against the bow to the man, which is clearly less disparaging?

04:14:20.560 Yeah, this is an argument.

04:14:21.480 Thank you for pointing that out.

04:14:22.500 We're still going to do the champagne pop.

04:14:23.780 I apologize.

04:14:25.880 It is interesting.

04:14:26.800 Like, my argument with the bow, women will refuse to do the bow, but they'll do all kinds

04:14:31.540 of various, like, sex acts with men.

04:14:33.400 They'll, like, let a guy come on their face.

04:14:36.180 Like, just, hey, look, whatever.

04:14:37.920 People can do what they want to do, whatever.

04:14:39.560 You're into that as a woman, whatever.

04:14:40.800 But it's, like, won't cook and clean, won't bow, but we'll let a guy come in the back of

04:14:52.120 your, like, throat after knowing him for an hour.

04:14:55.260 Like, you guys will acknowledge, like, massive hookup culture in college, whatever.

04:14:58.700 I don't know.

04:14:59.000 That's just kind of weird to me.

04:15:00.420 Yeah.

04:15:00.560 I think it's pretty weird, too.

04:15:03.280 Well, no, it's, I mean, look, people can do whatever.

04:15:05.200 They want to do that, but it's, like, object to the bow, but let a dude come on your face

04:15:13.140 after knowing him for, like, three hours.

04:15:15.080 It's like, okay.

04:15:16.280 You know?

04:15:19.440 Gross.

04:15:21.680 Okay.

04:15:22.220 Is there a question there?

04:15:23.740 No, just echoing what the chatter had to say.

04:15:26.660 Pastey George donated $200.

04:15:30.380 In short, a lot of men nowadays, especially Western men, do not want women infected with

04:15:36.560 feminism and are tired of being demonized, humiliated, and falsely accused by strong,

04:15:42.900 independent women.

04:15:43.920 Hmm.

04:15:47.380 Oh.

04:15:48.560 Word.

04:15:48.880 By the way, sorry for the delay on these guys.

04:15:51.180 It was, you know, a little back and forth there, so I wasn't paying attention to the messages

04:15:55.160 coming through.

04:15:57.640 Pastey George donated $200.

04:16:00.940 Many U.S. taxpayers in America were counting on Trump to cut all funding to Israel, but

04:16:06.580 he didn't, and instead, he traveled to Israel and kissed the Western Wall and then gave them

04:16:11.600 more funding.

04:16:12.840 Oh, my gosh.

04:16:14.300 All right.

04:16:14.920 Thank you, Pastey.

04:16:15.480 Appreciate it, man.

04:16:16.420 Thank you for the message.

04:16:17.900 Thank you for the message.

04:16:21.260 Question for you.

04:16:21.980 Do you think a prosecutor, if they ever withheld evidence?

04:16:27.840 Oh, weird.

04:16:28.560 Command 500 donated $300.

04:16:32.360 Thank you, man.

04:16:32.820 Essa Blue Collar Man.

04:16:34.580 I need to go to bed.

04:16:36.320 I look forward to listening to this in the morning.

04:16:38.800 Thank you, man.

04:16:39.280 I love your show, Brian, and I love you, brother.

04:16:41.460 See you tomorrow.

04:16:42.020 I'm just not seeing this.

04:16:42.960 Here's an extra $100 to put Kirk's picture in the middle.

04:16:46.580 I don't actually...

04:16:48.640 Where is it?

04:16:50.400 Well, I'll just...

04:16:52.360 I don't want to, like, get up and...

04:16:54.020 We'll leave it there.

04:16:55.300 We'll leave it back there for now, but thank you, man.

04:16:57.260 I do appreciate the message.

04:16:58.560 Thank you, man.

04:17:00.640 There was, like, 30 potential scandals under Obama's administration, including the big Benghazi one.

04:17:06.980 So should all the Democrats involved go to prison like Hillary, Obama, Biden?

04:17:11.880 I don't know what these potential scandals are, but...

04:17:21.880 I don't understand what the question is, my guy.

04:17:24.280 I mean, why would you ask that question in the first place if you don't care?

04:17:43.680 Okay.

04:17:45.680 Thank you, Pacey, George.

04:17:48.000 Appreciate it.

04:17:48.680 Were you going to ask me something earlier?

04:17:51.160 I don't think so.

04:17:52.000 I mean, I did want to finish up on some of the...

04:17:54.100 Can we just be cool, though?

04:17:54.940 Because I sense a lot of frustration coming from your direction.

04:17:57.360 No, I'm totally fine.

04:17:58.520 You're not mad?

04:17:58.940 I was a little frustrated there, admittedly, but I've already moved on.

04:18:03.700 I'm not upset.

04:18:04.300 Are you mad at me?

04:18:05.720 No, really.

04:18:06.460 I don't, like...

04:18:07.600 No, I was just...

04:18:08.300 I wasn't even trying to be frustrated.

04:18:10.060 I was just giving my honest opinion.

04:18:12.520 No, no, no.

04:18:13.060 I didn't mean to offend you or anything.

04:18:14.380 No, no, I'm not offended.

04:18:15.780 It's more so just...

04:18:17.380 It's more so just...

04:18:21.380 I think somebody sent a super chat in, and then I feel like we derailed a little bit

04:18:28.000 there, but I felt like if somebody throws something out there, sometimes there's just

04:18:33.160 certain things I can't just be like...

04:18:36.160 I have to address certain things.

04:18:38.660 No, I understand.

04:18:39.300 I just...

04:18:39.600 Earlier, you were saying, like, oh, I'm trying to keep it on this topic.

04:18:42.760 Yeah.

04:18:42.940 I'm not letting things move on.

04:18:44.080 Has Corking underscore high donated $200.

04:18:47.920 Ladies, fit check.

04:18:49.800 Question for Brian.

04:18:51.080 You often ask the girls what they bring to the table, but what do you bring to the table?

04:18:56.560 Okay.

04:18:57.280 All right.

04:18:57.880 First, we'll do the fit check.

04:18:59.320 If everybody wants to, I guess, stand up and show the fit, I guess, we can do that.

04:19:04.840 A little fit check.

04:19:06.140 They want to know what you guys are wearing.

04:19:07.940 It's beautiful.

04:19:08.240 If you're wearing some Chanel or...

04:19:14.080 Okay.

04:19:15.800 All right.

04:19:16.280 There's the...

04:19:17.760 There it is.

04:19:18.580 Fit check.

04:19:19.620 Oh, whoops.

04:19:20.060 Didn't mean to press that.

04:19:22.620 Spin?

04:19:23.160 Should we do spins?

04:19:23.840 You guys want to spin?

04:19:24.520 Show the whole fit?

04:19:25.080 Is there room?

04:19:29.540 I guess not.

04:19:30.120 Okay.

04:19:31.580 Sweet.

04:19:32.080 Okay.

04:19:32.280 Whatever.

04:19:32.600 Sit down.

04:19:33.160 I'll answer the thing really quick.

04:19:35.180 What do I bring to the table?

04:19:36.820 I have some notes here.

04:19:37.540 I'll just read them off my notes.

04:19:40.540 What do I bring to the table?

04:19:41.920 Her chair is...

04:19:43.860 It's what?

04:19:46.060 It's fantastic.

04:19:48.040 It's like on something for it?

04:19:50.580 Oh.

04:19:51.740 What's going on?

04:19:52.440 Her chair was caught on the other chair.

04:19:55.080 Oh.

04:19:55.420 Okay.

04:19:55.660 It's fun.

04:19:56.900 All right.

04:19:57.240 What do I bring to the table?

04:19:58.940 Let's see.

04:20:01.820 Tall.

04:20:02.700 Six foot one.

04:20:03.540 Blue eyes.

04:20:04.500 Although, I wouldn't say looks are the primary thing I bring.

04:20:07.700 I'm pretty average looking.

04:20:08.580 Which reminds me, we have to do a bunch of looks rating.

04:20:13.100 I think I have my head on fairly straight.

04:20:15.140 Don't drink.

04:20:16.280 Don't smoke.

04:20:17.020 Don't do drugs.

04:20:18.080 Don't go to bars, not clubs.

04:20:19.320 Don't party.

04:20:21.000 Don't gamble.

04:20:23.040 Unless you consider crypto gambling, I guess.

04:20:25.940 Financially successful to the point that whoever I'm with long term will never have to work a day in their life.

04:20:30.980 Which I think very few people will ever have to do.

04:20:34.100 Or, excuse me, will be able to do.

04:20:35.760 Just the economic reality that we're in.

04:20:38.800 So, whoever I'm dating long term won't have to work.

04:20:43.980 Ambitious go-getter.

04:20:46.320 Very strong work ethic.

04:20:48.220 Creative problem solver.

04:20:52.220 Decisive.

04:20:53.300 So, if you ask me what I want for food, I'm never going to be like, oh, I don't know.

04:20:57.300 Whatever you want, babe.

04:20:58.420 I'll be like, I know exactly what I want to eat.

04:21:02.220 Let's see.

04:21:05.940 Yeah, those are just a few things.

04:21:07.300 There's probably more.

04:21:09.240 Yeah.

04:21:13.220 Yes.

04:21:13.900 Yep.

04:21:14.160 Period.

04:21:14.860 Period.

04:21:17.540 Okay.

04:21:18.460 Moving on.

04:21:19.160 Let me see if there was other chats or something.

04:21:20.740 No, I think we're good.

04:21:23.040 One sec.

04:21:24.360 Okay.

04:21:24.740 We're all caught up on chats.

04:21:26.960 We, there were so many things we had to get to.

04:21:29.220 Um, we kind of touched on the bow.

04:21:31.780 I want maybe duty, that convo, wait, work, car.

04:21:37.920 Oh, but let's do the champagne pop.

04:21:39.700 Let's just do it right now.

04:21:40.660 Oh, heck yeah.

04:21:42.080 Um, we'll do the champagne pop.

04:21:43.580 Uh, do you want champagne?

04:21:44.800 Yeah.

04:21:46.080 Uh, who here is, wait, you're 23.

04:21:50.720 Yeah, but you guys are already blasted, so I don't know.

04:21:53.800 Uh, me.

04:21:55.260 You're 21?

04:21:56.060 Yeah.

04:21:56.440 You want champagne?

04:21:57.200 Yeah, I'll take some.

04:21:58.360 Okay.

04:21:58.400 Everybody else is under 21.

04:22:00.020 Hey, it's just me and homegirl.

04:22:02.440 We're going to get, we're going to get lit.

04:22:04.420 Um, honestly, just give me one cup, because, are you 12?

04:22:11.860 I can.

04:22:13.100 You can be?

04:22:13.780 She's like, give me, give me the alcohol.

04:22:16.320 Uh, no, we got, we can only give it to people who are 21 and up.

04:22:19.640 Um, shit, what was the other thing we had to do?

04:22:21.680 There was the bow.

04:22:23.500 What was the other thing?

04:22:24.880 The looks.

04:22:25.600 Damn, they would.

04:22:25.980 If you wanted to ask the ladies, what it means to be single.

04:22:30.720 Thank you.

04:22:31.460 Okay, those of you who are single.

04:22:33.300 Good question.

04:22:34.440 Um, what does it actually mean to be single?

04:22:37.820 Because, like, a lot of y'all are single.

04:22:43.180 I get to solo travel.

04:22:44.000 Like, is, is there a guy in the picture for you?

04:22:46.980 Like, there's no guy in the picture?

04:22:48.880 Oh.

04:22:49.520 No.

04:22:50.280 I get to solo travel more.

04:22:52.920 Yeah.

04:22:53.280 Hold on, let me, let me start on this side of the table.

04:22:55.020 Uh, is there a guy in the picture?

04:22:57.320 There's no guy in the picture.

04:22:58.600 I mean, for me right now, being single just means focusing on other aspects in my life,

04:23:02.680 on myself, on my education, that sort of thing.

04:23:05.240 All right.

04:23:07.860 Um, no guy.

04:23:11.860 Not even, like, you're texting.

04:23:13.480 I've been here two weeks.

04:23:15.120 That's enough time.

04:23:16.060 Shit.

04:23:16.820 Oh.

04:23:17.380 I should have bagged some.

04:23:18.440 I mean, I've, like, talked to guys at, like, parties, but, like...

04:23:22.280 Oh, no.

04:23:23.280 I'm not really interested.

04:23:28.080 Scared me.

04:23:29.800 Okay.

04:23:30.640 I know, right?

04:23:32.100 I didn't think it was gonna go.

04:23:33.920 All right, so it's just me and homegirl over there, drinking.

04:23:38.060 I can also drink, hello.

04:23:39.800 You are already, sorry, you, I can't, I can't.

04:23:45.020 I must be a responsible bartender.

04:23:47.540 Responsible.

04:23:48.540 Uh, Felicity, I want you to get up to give it to her, okay?

04:23:53.180 Go around.

04:23:53.700 Don't pass it, please.

04:23:54.540 Um, one moment here while we do a cheers.

04:24:00.320 I guess I'm just, fuck, dude, kablask.

04:24:03.420 I'm not gonna drink the whole thing, but thank you, man.

04:24:06.680 I don't really, the only time I drink is if we do a champagne pop on the table.

04:24:11.760 All right, and, uh, you're single.

04:24:14.720 Any guys in the picture?

04:24:16.020 Uh, no.

04:24:17.980 No?

04:24:18.880 No?

04:24:19.520 Thank you.

04:24:20.580 Okay.

04:24:20.860 Okay.

04:24:21.660 Um, single?

04:24:24.460 Guys in the picture?

04:24:25.160 Bella, guys in the picture?

04:24:26.320 I'm single.

04:24:28.280 Guys in the picture?

04:24:29.780 No.

04:24:30.980 Can you speak into the microphone, please?

04:24:33.220 I have no guys in the picture, and I'm single.

04:24:36.740 How long have you been celibate?

04:24:38.920 Celibate.

04:24:40.140 Yeah, celibate.

04:24:41.460 So, you know I don't like labels, but, yeah, I've been alone for two years.

04:24:46.820 So, you've been celibate for two years?

04:24:48.960 Yeah.

04:24:50.360 Oh, okay.

04:24:51.300 Yeah.

04:24:51.720 By celibate, I mean you haven't had sex in two years.

04:24:54.100 That's how you define celibacy.

04:24:57.820 Wait, wouldn't that be abstinent?

04:24:59.140 Okay, now...

04:25:01.200 Yeah, kind of the same.

04:25:04.760 If you want to get technical...

04:25:07.560 All right, okay.

04:25:09.960 Bella, all right.

04:25:11.120 Or, wait.

04:25:11.760 No, you've been dating a guy for two weeks, right?

04:25:14.100 So, okay.

04:25:14.580 Not single.

04:25:15.920 Not single.

04:25:16.820 All right.

04:25:17.260 No guys in the picture?

04:25:18.480 Daniella?

04:25:18.820 Nothing?

04:25:19.420 No.

04:25:19.800 Nothing?

04:25:21.040 Wait, is anybody here in a sorority?

04:25:25.360 No?

04:25:26.600 Nobody?

04:25:29.400 Nobody?

04:25:30.160 Okay.

04:25:30.560 All right.

04:25:31.380 We're going to do a cheers.

04:25:33.120 I know some of you don't have alcohol.

04:25:36.040 We're going to do a cheers of you guys.

04:25:38.060 Salud.

04:25:38.840 Cheers to Kablask.

04:25:40.800 Thank you for the champagne pop.

04:25:41.820 Appreciate it, man.

04:25:44.340 Cheers.

04:25:46.460 Is anyone getting drunk?

04:25:47.920 Or can I refill my cup?

04:25:48.460 That was mine.

04:25:49.440 That's probably...

04:25:50.340 I think that one hasn't been drank.

04:25:53.240 Can I add to my cup?

04:25:54.560 Or you can just drink from that water.

04:25:56.600 It's a fresh water.

04:25:58.720 I'll just...

04:25:59.220 Felicity, can you grab the hat?

04:26:00.340 We're going to take it off the table.

04:26:01.380 Oh, here.

04:26:06.620 Looks rating, since it's topical, I guess.

04:26:10.040 Or was there anything left with the bow?

04:26:11.780 Let me just see if there's anything here.

04:26:14.220 Oh, the laundry.

04:26:15.160 Really quick.

04:26:16.380 I think first time the girl's over at my place, she should do laundry.

04:26:20.420 Thoughts?

04:26:23.160 If that's what you want from a woman, then go find a woman who wants to do that for you.

04:26:27.180 That's great.

04:26:28.760 But is it a bit much?

04:26:30.120 A bit much?

04:26:32.140 You're entitled to your preferences.

04:26:33.500 That's okay.

04:26:34.860 Okay.

04:26:35.640 But is it a bit much?

04:26:37.040 Like, from a bird's eye view, are you like, you know what, Brian?

04:26:39.820 That's kind of crazy.

04:26:41.000 Personally, I wouldn't be into that, but there's other women who might be, and I'm sure you'll

04:26:44.480 find one who does that for you.

04:26:45.840 Let's say this was your dream guy, and unbeknownst to you, you didn't know he wanted this.

04:26:52.080 So the first time you go to his house, he's like...

04:26:56.520 It's probably not my dream guy, then.

04:26:58.420 Not your dream guy?

04:27:00.040 Just...

04:27:00.520 Could have been the one, but you won't do his laundry.

04:27:03.280 Probably wasn't the one.

04:27:03.740 Could have been the one, won't do his laundry.

04:27:05.100 Okay.

04:27:05.320 I mean, once we start dating, if he wants to be due to his laundry, I can do that for him.

04:27:08.900 Daniella, you had a...

04:27:09.940 Looked like you had a reaction.

04:27:11.960 Well, I just think that's like, you gotta be so forward to say that.

04:27:16.420 Like, you know, that's not, oh, here, my mom does this.

04:27:19.680 This is my first time meeting you, do the same...

04:27:21.680 Like, it's...

04:27:22.480 It's so romantic, don't you think?

04:27:23.820 Maybe if you're dating...

04:27:25.020 Isn't it romantic for a girl to do a guy's laundry?

04:27:27.740 I think it's romantic.

04:27:28.780 If they didn't, would that be fine?

04:27:30.960 Oh, man, they hate me.

04:27:32.500 What?

04:27:33.400 If they didn't, would that be fine?

04:27:35.580 Like, you're saying that's your preference?

04:27:36.920 Is that like a...

04:27:37.480 Honestly, so, okay, first time the girl comes over, right?

04:27:41.700 And she didn't do it?

04:27:44.000 That's a deal breaker?

04:27:46.940 I don't know if it's a deal breaker, but I'm very disappointed.

04:27:50.240 I don't think...

04:27:50.640 I'm so disappointed.

04:27:51.640 We wouldn't know, though.

04:27:52.520 I'm like, I gotta be thinking...

04:27:55.940 Because here's me, right?

04:27:57.340 I have no interest.

04:27:58.940 Like, if I'm interested in a woman, and we're taking those steps, I'm going on a date with a girl,

04:28:05.540 like, a lot of guys will move like this.

04:28:08.400 They just want pussy.

04:28:10.280 My motivation when I'm dating a woman, I would never waste my time or spend my time just pursuing a woman just to get sex.

04:28:21.200 Like, if I'm dating a woman, I want there to be continuity, and I want there to be long-term.

04:28:26.560 Now, of course, just to be clear, look, sometimes you meet somebody, things don't work out, whatever.

04:28:31.860 But I am assessing this person for long-term compatibility.

04:28:39.360 But I don't think...

04:28:40.220 What if they just don't want to impose themselves on your...

04:28:43.220 She can impose.

04:28:44.220 Please impose.

04:28:44.540 Okay, you should let them know that then.

04:28:46.260 Impose.

04:28:46.720 Most people wouldn't, like, think that.

04:28:49.240 Like, you know?

04:28:50.160 If that's your preference, you should let that be known, because otherwise no one's going to start using your laundry.

04:28:55.140 I don't even have to ask.

04:28:56.560 I'll just be like, look, if you want to be a scoundrel as a guy, you could do it a bit more like, oh, first time she's at your place.

04:29:06.760 You can do something like this.

04:29:08.660 Be like, forgot to do my laundry.

04:29:12.160 Shit.

04:29:12.820 I really got to do it.

04:29:15.260 I wouldn't do that.

04:29:16.100 You can do it together and not be bonding experience.

04:29:18.000 If I'm super up front, I won't be, like, devious about it.

04:29:21.020 I'll just be up front.

04:29:21.760 But as a guy, you can be like, you know what?

04:29:24.640 And first time, you know, you should be nice.

04:29:26.200 It's already in the dryer.

04:29:27.320 It's already dry.

04:29:28.000 She just has to fold it.

04:29:29.840 What do you say specifically?

04:29:31.780 Like, what are the exact words you say?

04:29:34.120 Nonverbal.

04:29:34.280 Nonverbal.

04:29:34.700 Bella's going to love this one.

04:29:36.160 I'm just like, I'm really romantic, right?

04:29:38.220 So I'll take her hand and I'll be like, let me give you the tour.

04:29:41.340 I don't give her the tour.

04:29:42.560 I just walk straight to the laundry room.

04:29:44.280 I look at her, look at the machine, the washing machine, look back at her, look back

04:29:51.860 at the dryer, and then I walk out of the laundry room.

04:29:57.760 And then it's just like.

04:29:59.500 What's the success rate on that for you?

04:30:01.580 So high.

04:30:02.400 Really?

04:30:03.020 So high.

04:30:03.500 Like, what's the ratio on that?

04:30:04.840 They love it.

04:30:05.640 They love it?

04:30:06.740 Oh, yeah.

04:30:07.540 Oh, my goodness.

04:30:08.660 Oh, my goodness.

04:30:09.380 They're just like.

04:30:09.900 Are these all the one for you then?

04:30:11.600 Like, how many girls are doing this?

04:30:13.780 Are they all?

04:30:14.780 I have had more than one woman fold my laundry.

04:30:18.080 How do you meet them?

04:30:19.160 How do you meet these women?

04:30:21.200 Oh, you know, just the usual.

04:30:24.220 Right.

04:30:25.000 Like, the usual.

04:30:27.420 Tinder?

04:30:28.480 I haven't been on dating apps in a long time.

04:30:30.740 Facebook?

04:30:31.220 I'm banned from all of them.

04:30:32.160 I mean, I'd say, look.

04:30:33.480 I'm banned from all of them.

04:30:34.500 So I have like normie.

04:30:36.040 I have a bunch of normie dating experience.

04:30:39.080 I have used dating apps.

04:30:42.020 But honestly, I feel like I want to.

04:30:46.140 Maybe my advice is unique.

04:30:48.860 Like, the majority of women I've dated in the past, I don't know, three years or whatever,

04:30:52.420 they've all reached out to me.

04:30:53.880 Oh, really?

04:30:54.840 Yeah.

04:30:56.460 Some women I've pursued, but most of them, they reach out to me.

04:30:59.120 Very chivalrous of them.

04:31:00.560 Through, like, Insta DM?

04:31:02.000 Yeah, like, they just, I don't know, they watch my show or whatever, and they're like,

04:31:05.160 wow, I love this toxic guy.

04:31:07.060 Oh.

04:31:07.360 I love how, they're like, I love how toxic he is.

04:31:09.500 They love red flags.

04:31:10.860 I like that.

04:31:12.020 Yes.

04:31:13.260 Yeah, so, but I mean, almost prior to that, every single relationship I had, I was the initiator

04:31:21.120 pursuer.

04:31:22.240 But, I mean, I'm in a unique position where I'm, like, somewhat out there publicly or whatever.

04:31:27.060 So, yeah.

04:31:30.220 But, you know, that's, you know, it's a privilege that women have that you guys don't like to

04:31:34.380 let on, because I haven't had sort of the experience.

04:31:37.380 There's, like, a lot of leverage if the person's coming to you.

04:31:42.180 And that's, like, the default setting for women.

04:31:44.780 The guy's trying to get, you can kind of dictate the terms a little bit.

04:31:48.180 If the guy's trying to get with you, like, you can kind of set the standard.

04:31:52.540 You can be like, I want this, and I'm this, and I like that.

04:31:57.060 But I feel like girls flirt back, too, no?

04:31:59.020 What's that?

04:31:59.420 Like, girls, like, flirt back and, like, also give guys the signs that they're interested.

04:32:02.780 Sure, but there is a dynamic that exists when it comes to dating, where it's kind of like

04:32:08.480 the pursuit, the men are pursuing.

04:32:11.400 Yeah, more so.

04:32:12.080 And, like, this applies to business, too.

04:32:16.020 If somebody comes to me and says they want to work with me, like, we want to sponsor you.

04:32:21.800 So I'm in a way stronger negotiating position, and I have way more leverage than if I'm, like,

04:32:27.560 reaching out to a brand, and I'm like, hey, I want to work with you guys.

04:32:32.420 So that's kind of, like, how dating is a little bit.

04:32:35.520 Because men are the initiators, typically, and women are a little less proactive, you

04:32:41.620 have, like, a bunch of options you can pick from.

04:32:43.660 You can kind of dictate terms a little bit.

04:32:46.120 You can be like, you know what?

04:32:47.320 Yeah, it's nicer, isn't it?

04:32:48.500 Like, it's super dope.

04:32:50.540 It's super dope.

04:32:51.080 But I feel like, I feel like.

04:32:52.040 I don't mind if women initiate.

04:32:53.980 And by the way, women can initiate, and you can, like, initiate, and then just immediately

04:32:59.760 defer leadership back to me.

04:33:01.680 Like, you can just be like, hey, what's up, Brian?

04:33:03.300 Yeah.

04:33:03.720 I think you're cute, whatever.

04:33:04.720 And then the men does the rest of the work, yeah.

04:33:06.080 And then I'll take care of the rest, because I'm cool like that.

04:33:07.260 But I feel like a lot of men, like, they take some, like, pride, or, like, they kind

04:33:11.360 of enjoy doing that, right?

04:33:12.480 Because you were saying it's, like, this burden, kind of.

04:33:14.960 But I think some men enjoy it a little bit.

04:33:16.760 Yeah, sure.

04:33:17.120 I think some men, some men definitely do, maybe a lot.

04:33:20.560 But, like, I think if men could trade, for example, like, if the roles reversed a little

04:33:26.240 bit, at least in this dynamic, if women were just, like, throwing themselves at men.

04:33:32.160 Oh, men like that, don't they?

04:33:33.960 Men would take the trade.

04:33:35.360 Men would so take the trade.

04:33:37.280 If, like, all you women were just, like, trying to fuck me.

04:33:41.000 Like, that's what it is, right?

04:33:42.160 Like, all these guys are trying to have sex with you.

04:33:43.860 But, and just to be clear, they probably also want to date you, too, right?

04:33:46.720 I'm not trying to be.

04:33:47.240 I don't know about that here.

04:33:48.440 Well, maybe that's a fair point.

04:33:49.700 Especially the college guys.

04:33:50.760 Yeah, dude, guys our age, like, I don't really think they initiate guys our age.

04:33:54.520 I've only really been hit on organically by older guys.

04:33:58.780 Not ever guys my age.

04:34:00.300 Well, that's because women said, leave us alone.

04:34:02.700 Women said, nah, don't approach us.

04:34:03.560 I would love to meet a guy organically.

04:34:06.040 And I don't, I'm not, none of that hookup stuff.

04:34:07.240 Here's the thing.

04:34:07.820 You want the guy that you're attracted to to do that.

04:34:11.340 But in order, and look, yeah, it's, obviously, you want attractive men to hit on you.

04:34:17.260 But part of the deal was there are going to be guys who you are also interested in who are going to hit on you.

04:34:23.860 But part of that deal also means that there are going to be guys who you're not attracted to who are going to hit on you.

04:34:32.980 And for you, as women, that's going to feel awkward.

04:34:36.500 That's going to feel uncomfortable.

04:34:37.880 I don't mind it personally.

04:34:38.420 You might even be, like, creepy.

04:34:40.360 Because here's an interesting thing.

04:34:41.960 And by the way, I think, just to be clear, let me preface.

04:34:45.240 There's creepy behavior across the board, regardless of how attracted you are to the guy.

04:34:50.100 Yeah.

04:34:50.360 But I would also say, certain things said or done by a guy who you have attraction to, yeah, give him a bit of leeway.

04:35:01.200 Like, you, like, the same stuff that you would deem creepy if, like, a guy you weren't attracted to said it.

04:35:11.260 If the guy you are, like, do think is attractive said it.

04:35:14.900 You'd be into it.

04:35:15.580 You'd be like, I'm into this.

04:35:17.560 Yeah.

04:35:18.100 It's pretty privileged.

04:35:19.140 Although, I will say, like, an unattractive man hitting on you, there's nothing creepy about that if he's not doing anything really bad.

04:35:25.760 Well, although I would say even if the guy isn't doing anything, like, clearly creepy.

04:35:32.880 Like, I think we can all agree, regardless of how attractive the guy is, there is some stuff across the board would be creepy.

04:35:40.340 Right.

04:35:40.540 Right.

04:35:40.700 But I do think more behavior will fall into the threshold of creepy if you're not attracted to the guy.

04:35:48.340 Like, certain behaviors that you will deem creepy wouldn't be creepy.

04:35:53.040 I mean, I guess I'm repeating myself at this point.

04:35:55.540 No, I get it.

04:35:56.020 I think that's kind of unfortunate, though, if it's not done with, like, in a creepy way.

04:35:59.400 Yeah.

04:36:00.100 So, and I think even if a woman is approached by a guy who she thinks is good looking or whatever, I think women even then can still have, like, a bit of a hesitancy even in that situation.

04:36:14.680 I don't know.

04:36:15.180 Like, a bit of a defensiveness to them.

04:36:18.440 I don't know.

04:36:19.760 Not all the time.

04:36:20.020 I think it's, like, flattering sometimes, actually, even if it's, like, an unattractive guy.

04:36:24.200 Yeah.

04:36:25.240 If he goes about it the right way.

04:36:26.600 Yeah.

04:36:26.880 Yeah.

04:36:27.580 We have a chat here.

04:36:28.660 You can read it for us.

04:36:31.040 Oh.

04:36:32.600 Chair one is swimming in opinions and drowning for facts.

04:36:35.920 That is a dangerous cocktail to have, and it needs to be pointed out.

04:36:39.400 Oh, shit.

04:36:40.020 Sorry.

04:36:40.740 Okay.

04:36:41.100 Cheers, Brian.

04:36:43.060 Yeah.

04:36:43.420 I think there's nothing wrong with having opinions.

04:36:46.000 I guess.

04:36:47.380 For the perfect guy.

04:36:48.800 For the...

04:36:49.120 Okay.

04:36:51.960 For the perfect guy, would any of you fold his laundry, like, the first time you go to his house?

04:36:57.160 Perfect, yes.

04:36:59.180 I mean, how perfect could he have been in that first...

04:37:01.740 In that short time you've known him, right?

04:37:03.080 I've done that for guys that weren't even perfect.

04:37:05.300 My ex-boyfriend.

04:37:06.340 Yeah, girls will do a lot of things for even, like, retrospectively, you're like, damn, I did all that for him?

04:37:11.580 I mean, do you not want to help him and, like, make him feel taken care of?

04:37:15.340 But at this point, you've only gone in one date, so how perfectly...

04:37:17.620 You don't know him.

04:37:18.640 Okay, but here's the thing.

04:37:20.840 Like, if he's not giving me the equal amount of care, then why should I fold up your clothes if you're not going to fold up mine?

04:37:31.700 That's my opinion.

04:37:32.400 Yeah, but wouldn't this just be applied to, like, why...

04:37:37.500 Like, plenty of women would not pay for a guy's date, so then wouldn't the logic there be...

04:37:43.100 Like, if you're looking for perfect reciprocity, like, I don't think it's a weird double standard.

04:37:49.520 Well, I guess technically it would be a double standard, but I don't think it's, like, weird if a woman...

04:37:54.620 She says, I would never pay for, like, fully pay for the bill for the man on the first date, but her standard would be, or her preference would be, for the guy to pay the bill on the first date.

04:38:04.560 So there are just certain things, like, men do, women do.

04:38:08.760 Did you have something, Danielle?

04:38:10.040 Yeah, I don't...

04:38:10.960 Sorry. Not Danielle. I apologize.

04:38:12.920 That's Danielle.

04:38:13.540 We haven't said my name this whole time. It's okay.

04:38:19.360 My name's Kira.

04:38:19.880 Wait.

04:38:20.980 Kira. That was going to be my second guess.

04:38:22.740 Brilliant.

04:38:23.640 Yep. Go ahead.

04:38:24.540 I think it's just super strange to me.

04:38:29.900 Like, you would not do...

04:38:31.740 Like, that's the type of thing you do for someone when you, like, live with them.

04:38:34.960 Like, it's just why...

04:38:36.080 Like, I would...

04:38:37.480 I don't know.

04:38:38.860 Like, I would buy my friend coffee.

04:38:40.520 I'd buy my friend food.

04:38:41.880 I would not, like, do my friend's laundry.

04:38:44.440 I would not have them do my laundry.

04:38:46.060 Like, that, you know, it's, like, I'm not even saying that has to be the same thing.

04:38:49.280 That's just so out of the question.

04:38:51.620 Like, if you're not, like, habitually, like, seeing them yet, you don't...

04:38:55.820 You can't assess if they're perfect.

04:38:57.840 Like, I think it's strange.

04:38:59.720 I think, like, the hypothetical is that, like, you already know they're perfect.

04:39:01.960 Like, I don't...

04:39:03.020 I honestly think first date is kind of a lot to fold someone's laundry.

04:39:06.320 But if I know, like, if I already know they're perfect, then I'll do it.

04:39:09.840 And I feel like I've done it for guys that are...

04:39:11.380 But, like, my perspective...

04:39:12.520 Oh, sorry.

04:39:12.940 Go ahead, Daniella.

04:39:13.500 I've done more for guys and girls in terms of I've paid for my friends all the time and

04:39:19.620 not gotten anything back.

04:39:20.760 I've done their laundry, done their bedsheets, sent emails.

04:39:23.780 Like, I've done a lot.

04:39:25.400 And I, like, it's not at my expense.

04:39:27.340 Like, I like doing these things.

04:39:29.060 So it depends on the person.

04:39:30.880 Like, then I wouldn't, like, care about the connotations.

04:39:35.080 But I think it depends.

04:39:37.020 For a first date, I'm thinking, like, that's, like, the first or second time you've met

04:39:40.780 the person.

04:39:41.760 But, like, if it's the first time you're going over to their house and it's, like, how

04:39:45.580 Brian said, he's like, I forgot to fold my laundry.

04:39:47.380 I think I honestly probably would be like, oh, do you want help?

04:39:50.460 Yeah.

04:39:50.660 And, like, in a casual sense, it doesn't have to have, like, those connotations.

04:39:53.900 Like, oh, like, women do laundry, you know?

04:39:57.140 It's like, okay, like, sure.

04:39:58.280 Um, but I can understand the sentiment.

04:40:02.640 So I think it's per the person and situation that, like, determines that.

04:40:08.540 But if they're perfect, I would.

04:40:10.780 I just, I don't know if I'm, I'm even asking, I don't think I'm asking for anything all that

04:40:14.920 crazy.

04:40:15.360 It's not that much.

04:40:16.320 It's not really that much.

04:40:17.060 Well, because from my perspective, I'm like, if we get along and you're going to be my

04:40:22.220 girlfriend, I'm going to be taking care of everything.

04:40:24.920 And then, like, long enough down the road, you'll never have to work a day in your life.

04:40:29.980 So.

04:40:31.400 Is the laundry thing, like, really important to guys?

04:40:33.580 Because, like, if it is, like, even I'd be willing to fold a guy's laundry.

04:40:36.160 I just didn't even know, like, guys wanted it.

04:40:37.300 Wait, can I just have you straighten your mic, like, to the top of it?

04:40:40.340 Yeah, perfect.

04:40:41.220 Sorry, go ahead.

04:40:41.820 I was just saying, like, I didn't even know, like, because you keep stressing this thing

04:40:44.900 about girls doing laundry.

04:40:45.980 Is it, is it, like, very important to guys?

04:40:47.940 Or is it something that they all really want?

04:40:49.700 Well, I'm unique.

04:40:51.460 It's like, it's like your thing specifically.

04:40:53.000 Yeah, it's my thing, I guess.

04:40:54.060 Because, like, look, I think, honestly, most men, if you're pleasant, and, I mean, it

04:40:59.780 depends if they're, like, religious guys or whatever, but, like, most men, make them

04:41:04.400 some food, be pleasant, have sex with them, most men, like, 97% of men are going to be

04:41:11.540 happy with that.

04:41:12.600 I feel like men really don't ask for all that much.

04:41:16.000 I mean, be like, you know, they have to be attracted to you or whatever, that's part

04:41:20.500 of it.

04:41:20.740 But, I don't know.

04:41:23.000 I just have very high standards, okay?

04:41:25.180 Such high standards.

04:41:26.520 Don't settle, king.

04:41:28.000 Such high standards.

04:41:29.180 Just want a woman to, you know, do my laundry.

04:41:32.000 I'm going to try that on a guy next time I hang out with him.

04:41:34.160 I mean, look, I know you guys hate the laundry thing.

04:41:36.360 You hate the mouth thing.

04:41:36.460 No, I'm curious about it.

04:41:37.820 But you could run an experiment for all of you.

04:41:40.940 All of you could run an experiment.

04:41:42.960 And it's like, what can you do to get the guy?

04:41:46.420 And if, I know some of you aren't really dating, whatever.

04:41:49.920 Some of you already have the guy.

04:41:51.160 You already got the guy.

04:41:52.000 Good.

04:41:53.220 But if you're struggling to get the guy.

04:41:55.480 Hold his laundry.

04:41:56.200 I'm telling you, like, unprompted.

04:41:59.120 The first time you go to his house, if you, like, you go in and you're like, hey, can I

04:42:07.900 help you with anything?

04:42:09.680 Can I do your laundry for you?

04:42:11.080 He's going to be, like, in love.

04:42:12.980 He will fall in love with you.

04:42:16.340 You've just differentiated yourself from the other women.

04:42:19.860 I feel like some guys I know would be offended by that and be like, you think I can't do my

04:42:24.500 own laundry?

04:42:25.580 Really?

04:42:26.040 Just do it.

04:42:26.620 Like, if you see clothes on the floor, just take it to the camera.

04:42:29.200 Like, some dude got offended that I got paid more than him.

04:42:33.740 And that's part of the reason why we broke up.

04:42:36.300 But I don't know if it would, I mean, even if the guy's like, nah, I can do my own laundry.

04:42:40.300 I don't think he would even be, like, if you just ask, hey, can I do your laundry?

04:42:46.540 Hey, oh, those clothes on the floor, can I pick them up for you?

04:42:48.980 By the way, guys, don't leave your clothes on the floor.

04:42:51.480 Like, first time, you know.

04:42:53.320 Have your place presentable.

04:42:55.240 But when she's your girlfriend, she can pick it up.

04:42:57.940 No, I actually want to try this now.

04:42:59.260 Like, I'm so curious.

04:43:00.260 Just as a test.

04:43:01.080 Be like, you know what?

04:43:01.720 I'm never going to do this again, but one time.

04:43:03.560 I just want to see how it goes.

04:43:04.600 Maybe something more subtle.

04:43:05.700 I'm telling you.

04:43:07.040 Make his bed?

04:43:07.780 Okay.

04:43:07.920 Just start making his bed.

04:43:08.880 I've always done that.

04:43:10.160 Small things.

04:43:10.900 Small things.

04:43:11.560 I'm just saying.

04:43:12.500 If it gets you the guy, like, is it all that much?

04:43:15.320 All that much?

04:43:16.140 Okay, we have a chat here from our dude, Pasty George.

04:43:21.040 Pasty George donated $200.

04:43:23.820 Thank you, man.

04:43:24.220 Appreciate it.

04:43:24.320 I've seen women act weird and bend over backwards for guys that they just met and liked.

04:43:29.660 When they got the guys that they liked, they did just about whatever he asked while acting stupid and goofy.

04:43:37.500 Okay.

04:43:37.900 Submission.

04:43:38.940 True soon.

04:43:40.260 All right.

04:43:40.760 Yo, Pasty George.

04:43:41.400 Thank you, man.

04:43:41.780 Appreciate it.

04:43:42.360 Okay.

04:43:42.880 Let's blast through.

04:43:45.840 We have this.

04:43:47.000 Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10.

04:43:49.240 You can't pick 7.

04:43:50.580 Starting with you.

04:43:52.720 My answer is...

04:43:53.620 Are you coming back?

04:43:56.540 Marix or whatever?

04:43:57.680 Where is she?

04:43:58.100 Is my name?

04:43:59.960 Sorry.

04:44:00.400 Yeah, all right.

04:44:02.560 We're doing a segment.

04:44:03.460 Can you come back for it?

04:44:04.640 Yeah, do you want me to?

04:44:05.700 I already did this whole lot.

04:44:07.020 I'm going to go again.

04:44:10.060 I would like your company.

04:44:12.640 Yeah, we just want you at the table generally.

04:44:14.820 I know you're...

04:44:15.680 I don't know what the fuck you're doing back there or whatever, but...

04:44:17.920 We're not talking about politics.

04:44:21.720 Sorry about that.

04:44:22.560 Oh, my God.

04:44:25.540 Where are those...

04:44:26.560 All right.

04:44:30.200 Well, that's a yellow card for you.

04:44:32.260 Fucking yellow card.

04:44:33.800 Are you rejoining us?

04:44:35.200 Hello?

04:44:36.320 What card am I on?

04:44:38.420 You already...

04:44:39.200 You forgot?

04:44:41.380 I previously gave you the yellow card.

04:44:44.340 Yellow card for Marix back there.

04:44:47.120 This is new.

04:44:48.180 Yeah.

04:44:48.860 That's your warning, I guess.

04:44:50.160 Are you rejoining us?

04:44:51.380 Yeah.

04:44:51.620 Are you guys, like, drunk or high?

04:44:55.760 Like, what's going on?

04:44:56.440 I just have not had sleep since yesterday.

04:45:00.800 Can you speak into the microphone, please?

04:45:02.940 Well, yeah, that's...

04:45:04.180 I'm making an announcement to everyone.

04:45:05.700 I have not had sleep since yesterday because I came all the way here from Tallahassee.

04:45:10.780 What time did you guys arrive?

04:45:11.660 It's, like, 1 a.m.

04:45:12.540 It's, like, 1 a.m. in Orlando right now.

04:45:14.780 Okay.

04:45:15.040 Can you scoot the mic that way, scooting to the table?

04:45:17.440 What time did you guys arrive in Los Angeles?

04:45:19.720 Like, here, 3.14 p.m.

04:45:23.640 But, like, before that, I did not get any sleep.

04:45:26.780 No, what time did your flight land in Los Angeles?

04:45:28.780 3.14 p.m.

04:45:30.140 Today?

04:45:30.840 No, yesterday.

04:45:32.240 Knowing that you guys flew all the way from Florida, knowing that today you were having

04:45:36.420 a podcast appearance, you guys opted to go be degenerates and party in Los Angeles?

04:45:42.020 What?

04:45:42.400 I didn't party in Los Angeles.

04:45:43.480 How did you not?

04:45:44.100 Hold on.

04:45:44.460 Did you have a hotel?

04:45:46.080 No.

04:45:46.320 We're in an Airbnb.

04:45:47.620 But you said you didn't...

04:45:49.160 It's not as if you flew in today and you left super early.

04:45:54.120 You had a hotel yesterday, meaning that you would have been...

04:45:58.620 We had exterior problems, too, last night, too, at the Airbnb.

04:46:02.260 As tourists, you guys had...

04:46:04.400 I am not no tourist, okay?

04:46:06.440 I've been to some different countries.

04:46:08.480 No, we brought somebody with us, and, like, they were just causing exterior problems, and

04:46:13.500 it was, like...

04:46:14.740 To the point that you guys had to stay up all night?

04:46:17.780 Did you guys go to the hospital or something?

04:46:19.360 No, you didn't even...

04:46:19.680 I'm from Tallahassee, my guy.

04:46:21.940 Like, that's literally right across the map.

04:46:25.600 What are you talking about?

04:46:26.180 But you arrived at 3 p.m. yesterday, which means you could have gone to sleep.

04:46:31.720 I don't understand why you're trying to be Inspector Gadget here, bro, but, like, I'm

04:46:35.860 just telling you, I barely have sleep.

04:46:38.520 Well, your disruptions as it relates to the podcast...

04:46:41.960 Disruptions?

04:46:42.640 Yes, disruptions.

04:46:44.580 It would occur to me that you had ample opportunity.

04:46:48.000 Your defense is, we haven't slept.

04:46:51.340 Yeah, and I spent most of my day getting ready to be here.

04:46:57.160 So, you arrived yesterday at 3 p.m.

04:47:00.040 What prevented you from sleeping when you had an Airbnb?

04:47:02.560 Yeah, and we arrived here at, like, 9.13 p.m., so I'm just, like...

04:47:06.720 We arrived at LAX.

04:47:08.480 If you haven't slept, then why are you smoking weed in the bathroom?

04:47:12.680 I wasn't smoking weed in the bathroom.

04:47:14.560 But I smelled it.

04:47:15.420 I smelled it, too.

04:47:16.400 Wait, really?

04:47:16.980 Yes.

04:47:18.180 I smelled weed.

04:47:19.220 I smelled it after one of you walked in.

04:47:21.040 I'm not trying to, like, be mean.

04:47:22.120 I'm just saying...

04:47:22.980 Chat.

04:47:23.640 It didn't make sense.

04:47:25.340 Okay, well, it wasn't me in the first place, so...

04:47:27.960 So, it was her?

04:47:28.880 Who was it?

04:47:29.480 I was sitting on that chair the whole time.

04:47:31.440 Who was it?

04:47:32.040 I don't know.

04:47:33.320 One of them.

04:47:34.200 It was one of you, too.

04:47:35.020 I know...

04:47:35.220 I don't think it was any of the other women here who slept who, um...

04:47:39.640 Here, hide this.

04:47:41.300 Guys, be attentive to this.

04:47:43.320 We don't need this right now.

04:47:44.500 I know.

04:47:45.320 Who smoked weed in the bathroom?

04:47:47.780 Was it...

04:47:48.300 I mean, I smoke weed, but not in the bathroom.

04:47:52.320 It's a pen.

04:47:53.640 I smoke weed, but not in the bathroom.

04:47:55.160 Could you guys smell...

04:47:55.860 Who went...

04:47:56.260 You said you went in there?

04:47:57.240 Could you smell it?

04:47:57.480 I went in there and I smelled it, yeah.

04:48:01.360 Okay.

04:48:02.760 So, I mean...

04:48:03.880 Is that, like, normal smoke, though?

04:48:08.180 She's saying it wasn't her, and she's not denying it, so...

04:48:11.700 Was it you?

04:48:12.840 I was sitting over there.

04:48:14.480 No, this was way earlier.

04:48:15.360 You can literally check my purse right now.

04:48:17.140 I don't have the vape on me.

04:48:20.260 Like...

04:48:20.740 It's like a vape?

04:48:24.180 It's a pen.

04:48:24.820 It's a wax pen.

04:48:26.560 It's a wax pen.

04:48:27.800 But it still has a scent.

04:48:29.540 Red.

04:48:29.940 I see the red card coming.

04:48:31.600 Hmm.

04:48:31.780 Okay.

04:48:35.720 I'm just saying, like...

04:48:36.840 I just don't understand.

04:48:38.100 You guys clearly, like, even before you got to the studio, you guys were, like, clearly

04:48:42.100 intoxicated, knowing that you're going to go on a podcast, which, you know, does involve

04:48:49.680 the necessity of having some of your mental faculties available to you.

04:48:54.400 I'm doing a sobriety test right now, my guy.

04:48:57.400 Okay.

04:48:58.260 The tone in your voice, your eyes are bloodshot.

04:49:01.480 You guys either drank or smoked or something.

04:49:05.080 I don't know why you have to lie about it, but...

04:49:07.060 Bloodshot eyes doesn't necessarily mean I smoked or drank before I got here.

04:49:11.180 There was also alcohol in your bag.

04:49:13.780 Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'll drink it here.

04:49:17.060 Shares three and six are high or on something, for sure.

04:49:20.440 Like, you don't know me, my guy.

04:49:20.900 And they definitely parted instead of getting arrested and ready for the podcast.

04:49:25.640 Feminist women avoiding responsibility as usual.

04:49:27.020 I just don't understand.

04:49:28.320 Like, you've been on the show before.

04:49:29.900 You've been trying to get back on the show for a really long time.

04:49:33.120 You guys flew.

04:49:34.980 This is my first time on this show.

04:49:37.040 I'm not talking to you.

04:49:37.780 And I'm being put in this predicament.

04:49:38.440 That's fine.

04:49:38.760 I get you.

04:49:39.120 You're not talking to me, but you brought me into it, so.

04:49:41.500 Okay, that's fine.

04:49:42.460 But I guess my confusion is, is...

04:49:45.580 I mean, I don't know if you guys are planning to do other stuff in L.A.,

04:49:48.580 but you guys flew from Florida to do the show,

04:49:52.200 and you've been back there for, like, hours.

04:49:56.240 I don't know.

04:49:56.560 I was only in the bathroom for three minutes.

04:49:57.660 And you're clearly either drunk or high or something.

04:50:01.280 No, I just feel like I couldn't help with, like, the conversation.

04:50:04.080 I was getting so bored.

04:50:06.120 Okay.

04:50:06.940 This happened last...

04:50:08.200 I was only in the bathroom for three minutes,

04:50:10.400 so I guess it's a rule that I shouldn't use in the bathroom for over three minutes.

04:50:13.500 Well, you know, part of your boredom probably relates to the fact that you're on drugs or you're drunk.

04:50:20.180 And it would occur to me that, like, it's easier to become engaged in a conversation if you're not blasted out of your mind.

04:50:28.560 Yeah, I guess.

04:50:30.260 I don't know.

04:50:30.980 It depends on the conversation.

04:50:32.600 You got to speak into the mic.

04:50:33.720 It depends on the conversation, but I agree.

04:50:35.460 I mean, we've been talking about traditional gender roles.

04:50:37.400 I know it was political for a bit.

04:50:39.360 Fair.

04:50:40.220 That was maybe boring for some of the other panelists, but we've also been talking about dating.

04:50:44.740 I get that, but we feel like we're being targeted.

04:50:47.920 How?

04:50:48.340 Okay, is it racist?

04:50:49.360 Do you think I'm, like, racist?

04:50:50.820 I'm just being so honest, my guy.

04:50:52.840 Do you think I'm targeting you because you guys are both drunk and high?

04:50:56.800 No, because I went into the bathroom for three minutes.

04:51:00.720 Well, then it wasn't you.

04:51:01.700 It was her.

04:51:03.160 I didn't say it was her.

04:51:04.760 Did you smoke weed before the show?

04:51:06.920 Before the show, yes.

04:51:08.660 Ah.

04:51:09.040 Okay.

04:51:10.260 I rest my case.

04:51:12.520 Before the show, yes.

04:51:14.080 Okay.

04:51:15.080 All right.

04:51:16.480 That's all I got to say.

04:51:18.040 It's more respectable than doing it in the bathroom.

04:51:20.400 Exactly.

04:51:20.840 I just don't understand.

04:51:21.520 So, I was just, like, that's why I was getting heated when y'all were accusing me.

04:51:25.480 Or accusing your friend.

04:51:26.880 I'm accusing both of you.

04:51:27.880 Oh, me?

04:51:28.960 Dude.

04:51:29.360 Oh, both of us?

04:51:30.400 I don't know.

04:51:30.720 It's just, I don't know.

04:51:31.600 It's like, you came, you flew here.

04:51:33.720 I don't got a vape.

04:51:34.820 You flew here.

04:51:35.840 It's like, you guys could at least be, like, coherent for the podcast.

04:51:39.860 I am coherent.

04:51:41.520 You're a little better.

04:51:42.420 You're a little better than her.

04:51:43.940 She looks like she's about to fucking nod off or fucking OD.

04:51:46.880 I don't know what it is.

04:51:48.020 Oh, wow.

04:51:48.820 That's crazy.

04:51:49.660 Don't put that on me.

04:51:51.040 That's crazy.

04:51:51.640 Don't put that on me.

04:51:52.760 Sorry.

04:51:52.880 We do have an arcane.

04:51:53.940 Please get it right.

04:51:54.900 Guys, please.

04:51:56.940 Look, I'm just saying, bro.

04:51:58.440 Okay, whatever, whatever, whatever.

04:52:00.000 Guys, read 100.

04:52:01.580 TTS 200.

04:52:04.400 Crazy.

04:52:04.880 All right.

04:52:05.540 Moving on.

04:52:06.300 We had Stifler.

04:52:08.180 Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10.

04:52:10.300 Can't pick 7.

04:52:11.020 Your answer?

04:52:11.840 It's long and drawn out.

04:52:14.800 It's going to be a whole back and forth.

04:52:16.140 You should probably go to them first.

04:52:18.800 How about this?

04:52:19.560 Answer the question.

04:52:20.080 I reject the whole 1 to 10 thing.

04:52:21.620 So you won't rate yourself?

04:52:23.020 Yeah.

04:52:23.460 Because I don't believe in the whole 1 to 10 thing.

04:52:24.560 Okay.

04:52:24.840 What about you?

04:52:26.240 8.

04:52:27.240 8?

04:52:27.640 Okay.

04:52:27.840 I want to skip, too, but I want to skip.

04:52:33.660 Whoa, hold on.

04:52:34.540 Just to be clear.

04:52:35.720 Boy.

04:52:36.640 I really hate to have to kick people off the show.

04:52:39.120 You were complaining that you're bored and you weren't involved in the conversation.

04:52:42.440 No, but I'm going around the table.

04:52:45.200 This is your opportunity to be involved in the conversation.

04:52:48.000 Participate, please.

04:52:49.060 I am participating.

04:52:50.420 Answer the question, please.

04:52:51.700 Okay.

04:52:52.020 Yeah, I want to say 10, but like last time I said 10.

04:52:55.080 I mean, not 10.

04:52:55.760 Okay, forget about last time.

04:52:56.720 Imagine this is the first time you've ever been on the show.

04:52:59.560 Okay, 10.

04:53:00.500 Okay.

04:53:00.900 What about you?

04:53:02.400 9.

04:53:03.720 Okay.

04:53:05.180 8.

04:53:06.080 Okay.

04:53:06.460 What about you?

04:53:06.980 A 10 as well.

04:53:08.420 All right.

04:53:08.880 What about you?

04:53:10.240 Like a 6.8.

04:53:13.120 Can't use fractions or whatever.

04:53:16.080 Okay, 6.

04:53:17.240 6?

04:53:17.620 Okay.

04:53:18.060 Felicity?

04:53:18.860 6.

04:53:19.680 All right.

04:53:20.040 What about you?

04:53:20.600 I was going to say 6 1⁄2, so I'll say 6.

04:53:22.760 Okay, 6.

04:53:23.580 All right.

04:53:25.240 You want to give a number?

04:53:27.580 I mean, again, I fundamentally reject the whole idea of rating looks on a scale of 1 to 10.

04:53:32.900 Okay.

04:53:33.400 Which I have my reasons as to why, but I don't want to like.

04:53:35.200 I agree.

04:53:35.820 No, it's okay.

04:53:36.420 Well, I mean, it's not political related, so we can dive a little bit into it.

04:53:40.500 I don't want to.

04:53:41.140 We won't linger too long on it, but can you give me your plot synopsis of your disagreement?

04:53:44.960 Basically, I think with societal beauty, like there's societal beauty standards in the U.S.

04:53:49.560 in 2025.

04:53:50.500 There's beauty standards in other countries.

04:53:52.440 There's beauty standards here from 10 years ago, and that will be different in 10 years

04:53:56.260 depending on whatever procedures and trend, whatever Instagram model who uses filters men

04:54:01.760 are obsessed with.

04:54:02.560 And like, even if you are people's ideal of a 10, like Megan Fox, Adriana Lima, today

04:54:08.740 now, like those women are receiving like.

04:54:11.080 Are they zeros?

04:54:12.300 Huh?

04:54:12.440 You think they're zeros today?

04:54:13.500 No, no, no, no, no, no.

04:54:14.100 They're beautiful.

04:54:14.680 I think they're beautiful women still.

04:54:15.880 But you're saying that they were like of an earlier beauty standard?

04:54:20.020 That's not what I'm saying.

04:54:20.820 What I'm saying is even if you're Adriana Lima, now you're receiving all this backlash of people

04:54:24.500 criticizing how you look, saying like, oh, why does your body look like this now?

04:54:27.720 Why do you look like that now?

04:54:28.980 You even have people today saying like, oh, Adriana Lima, she's like so overly glazed.

04:54:33.560 She's so overrated.

04:54:34.380 So wait, wait, wait, just to be clear, you're, you're talking about body, right?

04:54:39.100 So Adriana Lima's body would be like, like, I acknowledge that there's like, I would argue

04:54:46.780 minute, like fairly minor changes overall.

04:54:50.420 And also I don't think there's like specifically just one body type that dominates or not multiple

04:54:57.760 body types can be deemed attractive.

04:54:59.240 So you might argue like, okay, well in the early 2010s, you had that like completely unachievable

04:55:04.160 Kim K, plastic surgery, that whole look, right?

04:55:08.460 But I don't think that that would mean that the body type that was also attractive in like

04:55:14.660 the nineties or the two thousands is just now like a man sees a woman who previously would

04:55:20.160 have been deemed a 10.

04:55:22.100 I know you reject that sort of analysis.

04:55:24.400 They'd be like, oh, she's a zero now.

04:55:27.260 I mean, like, I don't think the fluctuation is that severe.

04:55:30.060 Some people really don't like women with the Kim K body type.

04:55:32.860 One thing though, just does anybody here also, anybody else, cause I want to try to bring

04:55:37.740 some other people in, have objections that echo what she's saying?

04:55:43.780 Anybody?

04:55:44.320 I don't agree.

04:55:45.480 Bella.

04:55:46.480 What?

04:55:47.080 Bella.

04:55:47.780 Hello.

04:55:49.120 That's not.

04:55:50.100 Kira.

04:55:51.900 Nice.

04:55:53.120 I, wait.

04:55:53.960 Daniella.

04:55:55.240 No?

04:55:55.620 Okay, whatever.

04:55:56.060 Are you just saying her names now?

04:55:57.320 Yes.

04:55:57.840 No, I get.

04:55:58.740 Do you agree with her?

04:55:59.680 I get the sentiment.

04:56:01.520 There's like a, I just don't like, I just give a number.

04:56:04.820 It's like.

04:56:05.140 BRB.

04:56:05.720 Not.

04:56:07.120 I'll be back.

04:56:07.960 I'm talking.

04:56:08.460 Go ahead.

04:56:08.720 Felicity, you can take it over.

04:56:09.980 But go ahead.

04:56:10.520 Continue making your arguments.

04:56:11.860 What I was saying is even if you're what many people consider a 10, you still end up receiving

04:56:16.020 backlash from society regarding the way you look.

04:56:18.500 And so there's ultimately no winning in society's eyes.

04:56:21.560 That's what I think overall.

04:56:22.560 I think beauty is subjective, but there's also conventionally attractive people.

04:56:28.160 And you can tell when someone is more attractive or less attractive.

04:56:31.560 But that doesn't mean that like, like if I think someone is a 10, obviously not everyone

04:56:35.960 in the world is going to think they're a 10.

04:56:37.480 It's about preference and opinion.

04:56:39.500 But there also is like conventionally attractive people.

04:56:43.960 Yeah, it's like subjective for the person, but like society as a whole, like can pretty

04:56:49.720 like generalize what that conventionally attractive look is.

04:56:54.880 So, yeah.

04:56:56.220 Like we can all agree that like Megan Fox is a beautiful woman, right?

04:57:01.660 But she's not a 10 or the most attractive to everyone.

04:57:06.060 Like.

04:57:07.080 She's a 10 to many people.

04:57:08.360 Yeah.

04:57:08.760 No, I'm not saying she's not a 10.

04:57:09.920 She's like modern day.

04:57:10.700 I'm saying to other people, like someone could think she's a 7.

04:57:13.620 Socially.

04:57:14.560 Right.

04:57:14.760 So then what is she ultimately?

04:57:17.520 No one knows.

04:57:18.480 Because to some people, she's a 7.

04:57:19.920 To some people, she's a 10.

04:57:20.940 And we don't have to label other people like that.

04:57:23.820 Young Megan Fox, I would say she was a 10.

04:57:26.460 But you just said many, some people would say Megan Fox is a 7.

04:57:29.560 Yeah, some people would, but I would say young Megan Fox was a 10.

04:57:32.180 But then there's no, there's no discerning what she really is, given that different people

04:57:35.620 have different opinions.

04:57:36.180 Yes, but we can agree she's attractive, right?

04:57:37.380 She's more attractive than the average person is what her point is, I think.

04:57:41.560 Yeah.

04:57:41.800 I think you can give, like, your opinion, and I mean, obviously, within reason, but

04:57:45.880 without that having to be, like, for certain.

04:57:48.900 Like, what I say about myself, it's like, oh, it's whatever means nothing.

04:57:53.640 Like, one thing to me, something to someone else.

04:57:56.160 So I don't think it's, like, it's going to be different for everyone.

04:58:01.580 Question for you.

04:58:03.640 Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?

04:58:07.040 No.

04:58:07.440 Why not?

04:58:08.560 I mean, if you look at, like, women biologically, we naturally, we on average have, like, a much

04:58:13.500 shorter height than men.

04:58:15.160 Sure.

04:58:15.320 So when it comes to men's height, I'm actually...

04:58:16.780 But there are men, there are men who are shorter than you.

04:58:18.420 Yeah.

04:58:18.680 And they're kind of like...

04:58:19.840 And they could be good people and have other attractive characteristics.

04:58:23.780 Mm-hmm.

04:58:24.240 But you wouldn't date a guy shorter than you.

04:58:25.880 No, I wouldn't date a guy shorter than me, but I...

04:58:27.560 We're not beholden to our biology.

04:58:31.700 But go ahead.

04:58:32.360 Sorry.

04:58:32.600 Continue.

04:58:33.680 It's just, I would prefer a guy who's taller than me.

04:58:36.340 And even when it comes to height, I'm somewhat forgiving, would argue.

04:58:39.160 Like, I look at it based on average height, right?

04:58:41.280 Like, the average height for a man is what?

04:58:42.860 5'9".

04:58:43.460 5'9".

04:58:43.960 5'9".

04:58:44.580 I would perfectly...

04:58:45.840 I would, like, I'd be fine dating a man who is 5'9", the way I'm the average height

04:58:49.140 for a woman.

04:58:49.940 Sure.

04:58:50.140 So I think that kind of balances out.

04:58:51.320 But can I ask, would there be, would it be a little, even if it's minuscule, if he's

04:58:57.380 6 feet, is it a little bit better?

04:58:59.900 Okay.

04:59:00.100 This is, like, a whole thing with my friends, but my ideal height for a guy is, I'm not even

04:59:03.980 kidding, like, 5'9", 5'10".

04:59:05.800 I'm not kidding.

04:59:07.000 A lot of girls like tall guys, but, like, personally, I prefer guys under 6'6".

04:59:10.980 It wouldn't factor in at all for you?

04:59:14.000 I would probably...

04:59:14.280 Like, would it be a detriment if the guy was 6 feet?

04:59:16.420 Not really.

04:59:16.980 I don't really care much about...

04:59:17.820 It's just across the board, 5'9", and up.

04:59:19.860 I mean, I would be willing to date a guy who's probably at least 5'7".

04:59:24.580 Okay.

04:59:27.600 But you are, even if you're willing to date the average, you've just created a hierarchy.

04:59:32.760 So these men below...

04:59:33.260 I don't care much.

04:59:34.460 I don't really care much, yeah.

04:59:35.740 Well, you said you wouldn't date a guy shorter than you, and preferred 5'9".

04:59:39.640 So, for example, would it be fair to say that you'd prefer 5'9 over 5'7"?

04:59:44.480 I don't really care much, but sure.

04:59:47.520 I'd say prefer 5'9".

04:59:48.740 I'd say prefer 5'9".

04:59:49.380 What about...

04:59:49.860 How tall are you?

04:59:50.800 5'4 and a half.

04:59:52.380 Okay.

04:59:52.720 Would you prefer...

04:59:53.540 So 5'5 would technically be taller than you.

04:59:55.820 Would you prefer 5'9 or 5'5"?

04:59:57.900 5'9".

04:59:58.600 Okay.

04:59:59.300 And even if on your own individual level, like in terms of your own preference, maybe you

05:00:04.200 don't care.

05:00:04.800 Yeah.

05:00:05.020 But I do think that this is part of the calculus.

05:00:08.100 Yeah.

05:00:08.500 We all want to confer the best benefits and privileges to our children as possible.

05:00:13.720 And it's just in the same way that there's pretty privilege, there are certain benefits

05:00:17.660 to being tall.

05:00:18.340 And like society will deem that, like you look at, they've done studies on this, people

05:00:22.200 who are taller tend to be paid more.

05:00:23.740 Or I don't know if they're, you know, there's debates over the actual correlation or whatever.

05:00:27.460 They tend to be women.

05:00:29.680 A lot of women have more of a romantic interest in tall men.

05:00:34.140 And obviously other things are important too.

05:00:36.720 But so even if you yourself on the individual level were like, you know what, I, from my

05:00:42.840 own attraction perspective, it doesn't change anything.

05:00:45.680 You could still do an analysis.

05:00:47.180 Like if I want to confer the best benefits to my children, especially my male sons, male

05:00:53.280 sons, wait, hold on.

05:00:54.040 My male children, excuse me.

05:00:55.880 You'd be like, okay, I want my male sons to be tall.

05:00:59.280 Like that would confer more benefits to them.

05:01:01.460 They'll move through life a bit.

05:01:02.840 Like, even if it's a little bit slightly easier, I wouldn't really think about that

05:01:05.660 if I'm being honest.

05:01:06.280 Cause I overall, like when it comes to, I mean, it's, it's back there in the subconscious

05:01:09.220 probably.

05:01:10.220 I mean, I don't know if that's true.

05:01:12.200 I really don't care about height that much.

05:01:13.840 But anyways, you've created, you've created a hierarchy already, even, even though you're,

05:01:18.000 I think your height, your position on height is really reasonable, super reasonable, but

05:01:22.900 you still are saying, well, I prefer five, nine over five, five.

05:01:26.020 You've created a hierarchy as it relates to physical attractiveness.

05:01:29.820 So that would be, I'm just, but, but you have different than someone else's type, which

05:01:35.820 is also different from someone else's type.

05:01:37.380 Well, but if we universally women prefer tall men.

05:01:41.140 So I, I understand that like probably some chick somewhere wants to date a dwarf.

05:01:45.260 Like me personally, I would, I would get with a dwarf.

05:01:50.060 I don't know if I, you know, yeah.

05:01:54.880 Okay.

05:01:55.180 So what, you know, just, just to see, just to check it out.

05:01:58.460 Uh huh.

05:01:58.680 Uh huh.

05:01:58.900 What you're saying is like, okay.

05:01:59.900 If anybody know, do you know dwarf Daniella?

05:02:02.320 Do you know like a cute female dwarf?

05:02:05.160 Personally?

05:02:05.680 Yes.

05:02:06.240 No, I don't know.

05:02:07.700 Have you been with one?

05:02:09.060 Huh?

05:02:09.540 Have you been with one?

05:02:10.880 Yes.

05:02:11.320 I'll tell you.

05:02:12.400 Huh?

05:02:12.760 I'm just curious.

05:02:13.260 I'll tell you.

05:02:13.880 Uh, five.

05:02:14.700 What's the threshold?

05:02:16.140 It's four, nine and four, nine.

05:02:17.420 So you could not be a dwarf, but like, you know, I do know too.

05:02:22.460 I've been trying to get her on the show for you.

05:02:24.300 Hook it up.

05:02:25.300 But, uh, I don't know.

05:02:27.700 You've created a hierarchy.

05:02:29.980 Most universally.

05:02:31.380 It's not an objective hierarchy.

05:02:31.940 It's my, my, what I'm attracted to.

05:02:33.820 Well, your own, but.

05:02:34.280 It's my individual type.

05:02:36.540 I, I understand that.

05:02:37.680 But even yourself, you've created.

05:02:39.320 So.

05:02:39.900 I also, I also put like a man who's six, two below five, nine for my personal dating preference.

05:02:44.680 That's totally fine.

05:02:45.480 Um, but what I would say is you've, you've gone ahead and created a hierarchy and what

05:02:49.980 we could do, you might object to it.

05:02:52.220 What we could do with your hierarchy is be like, okay, well, if we attach numbers to it

05:02:57.720 and I mean, height is actually a literal measurement, little, literal numbers, we could say, well,

05:03:03.520 okay, you might not agree with it, but we could say, okay, well, all things being equal of all

05:03:08.500 the other things you care about in a guy personality, his other looks, whatever, uh, five, five,

05:03:15.120 four, five, six, five.

05:03:18.500 And we could actually put a number, a one to 10 number on your looks determination or sorry,

05:03:25.400 your height determination.

05:03:26.880 Again, it would like dip lower on both ends of like the tall and short.

05:03:31.000 Yeah, that's totally fine.

05:03:32.480 Yeah.

05:03:32.780 I don't think that also, I wouldn't even like to put like, just personally, like my feelings

05:03:38.160 on putting, attaching numbers to that is that it's kind of degrading and devaluing a little

05:03:42.480 bit.

05:03:42.800 I mean, this is, this is something we all do.

05:03:45.880 I understand.

05:03:46.720 Men and women do this.

05:03:47.860 And I don't agree.

05:03:48.400 We, we wouldn't, this person's more attractive than this person.

05:03:52.580 This person's more attractive than this person to me or to, but, but so for, I mean, if there

05:03:58.320 were 10 people alive in this place to this demographic, like, well, I mean, it just varies

05:04:03.340 so much that it just becomes so hard to like, well, sure.

05:04:05.800 But I would just be like, okay, the USA standard, what's the standard in the USA?

05:04:09.480 So if you're asking me to rate myself according to us 2025 conventional beauty standards, like

05:04:16.500 I, my answer is that I don't know, but like, okay, you can, you can rate me if you want.

05:04:20.980 I don't even know.

05:04:21.820 I'm typically, unless the women want me to rate them.

05:04:24.460 I don't rate the women.

05:04:25.260 I mean, it's not that I'm trying to avoid that question.

05:04:26.980 I just genuinely like, don't know.

05:04:28.180 What do you think?

05:04:28.560 What about this?

05:04:29.260 Um, what do you think?

05:04:31.200 Not what you would rate yourself, but what do you think guys would rate me?

05:04:34.900 Like if, if a thousand men were to rate you, what would the average be?

05:04:39.200 All I'm going to base this on is what I've heard myself being rated by guys before,

05:04:42.980 but I've been rated like a seven before.

05:04:45.540 Okay.

05:04:45.740 What do you think a thousand guys, what do you think the average rating would be for

05:04:49.220 you?

05:04:49.780 I don't know about you gave yourself an eight.

05:04:52.640 Isn't that correct?

05:04:53.740 Yeah.

05:04:54.060 What do you think guys would rate you?

05:04:56.660 I don't, I really couldn't tell you.

05:04:58.960 Just guess.

05:04:59.720 Eight.

05:05:00.140 Sure.

05:05:00.460 Okay.

05:05:00.760 What about you?

05:05:01.800 You said you were a nine, I think.

05:05:04.280 What do you think?

05:05:04.940 Probably like seven.

05:05:06.880 Okay.

05:05:07.460 Eight.

05:05:07.860 What do you think guys would rate you?

05:05:10.140 Into the mic.

05:05:10.860 Closer to the mic.

05:05:13.520 Yeah.

05:05:13.880 I'd say six or seven.

05:05:16.600 Okay.

05:05:17.260 You said you were a 10.

05:05:18.340 What do you think the average men would rate you?

05:05:22.320 I rate myself a 10, but most guys would rate me like between a seven or a nine.

05:05:34.420 Okay.

05:05:34.820 But you're someone's 10 for the record.

05:05:35.940 And then Bella, what about you?

05:05:38.180 Maybe like a six or seven.

05:05:40.360 Okay.

05:05:41.140 Felicity.

05:05:42.640 Six.

05:05:43.220 What about you?

05:05:44.440 Six.

05:05:49.160 Okay.

05:05:49.520 Oh, I give myself a five.

05:05:53.580 Give myself a five.

05:05:54.840 Give yourself more credit.

05:05:56.900 Like you're saying you're five points deficient.

05:05:58.680 Is that your average or what you think other people?

05:06:00.260 My own.

05:06:00.840 You are passing though.

05:06:02.560 50%?

05:06:03.400 Well.

05:06:03.900 No, no, no.

05:06:04.240 Well, average.

05:06:05.300 You're saying you're five points.

05:06:06.640 Like half, like out of the whole scale, like half is only deficient.

05:06:09.020 Yeah, I think I'm like average, average looking guy.

05:06:11.300 But like, why would you want to walk around life with like that kind of like insecurity?

05:06:15.520 It's not confidence.

05:06:16.240 I think it's more confident to be like, I'm a five and I accept it versus like, wouldn't

05:06:28.840 you, like if some guy, I'm sure you guys all know a guy who's a little bit too cocky,

05:06:34.420 who thinks a bit too highly of himself.

05:06:36.780 He thinks he's hot shit, but he really isn't.

05:06:40.040 I think I believe in humbleness.

05:06:42.340 I think it's a virtue, but I'm not just saying it.

05:06:45.200 Like just to be humble.

05:06:47.360 Like if I actually thought I was a 10, I wouldn't just be like, oh, I'm a, I wouldn't humble

05:06:54.580 myself in that way.

05:06:56.800 I would probably say if I actually was a 10, I'd be like, shit, I'm a 10.

05:06:59.760 But it sounds like you're saying Brian, it sounds like you're saying like, okay, pull

05:07:04.500 up young Brian.

05:07:05.400 Felicity is gooning over here.

05:07:06.800 She wants to see young Brian.

05:07:08.760 We'll show young Brian.

05:07:09.900 Look, I was a little, when I was younger, six, seven.

05:07:14.140 Oh, please.

05:07:16.780 No, not seven when I was young.

05:07:18.380 You're right.

05:07:19.100 How old are you?

05:07:19.760 Really pretty.

05:07:22.640 Scroll down.

05:07:23.460 I know I got fat.

05:07:25.060 I'm losing weight though, boys.

05:07:26.420 I'm losing weight.

05:07:27.620 It's coming off down 10 pounds.

05:07:29.680 Look, I'm a stress eater.

05:07:31.380 You know, I don't drink.

05:07:32.700 I don't do drugs.

05:07:33.420 I don't smoke.

05:07:34.260 That was you.

05:07:35.400 I stress eat.

05:07:36.080 I'm a stress eater.

05:07:36.980 Scroll down.

05:07:37.520 Wait, go back down.

05:07:38.520 Go back down.

05:07:39.920 The one with the puppy.

05:07:40.660 Damn, wait.

05:07:41.440 The wetsuit one.

05:07:42.540 Scroll up.

05:07:43.100 Scroll up.

05:07:43.760 In the middle.

05:07:44.740 Damn, I was thin.

05:07:45.900 Holy fuck.

05:07:47.080 Rip.

05:07:47.800 But some girls like guys who are like a little bigger and bigger.

05:07:51.140 I don't care.

05:07:51.760 Have you heard that song by SZA?

05:07:53.500 Bring me back.

05:07:54.360 I need a big boy.

05:07:55.280 To 140 pound Brian.

05:07:57.740 Fucking shredded.

05:08:00.120 Athletic.

05:08:00.760 Bring me back.

05:08:02.840 140, 145.

05:08:04.220 Wow.

05:08:04.580 I was trim, bro.

05:08:05.740 I was trim.

05:08:06.500 Trim.

05:08:07.340 Athletic.

05:08:07.900 What's your ethnicity?

05:08:09.400 Just French or something else?

05:08:11.080 I don't know.

05:08:11.740 Probably some British.

05:08:13.180 Probably some like Southern.

05:08:14.900 Like Italian.

05:08:15.780 I don't know.

05:08:17.080 Mostly French, probably.

05:08:19.060 Scroll up.

05:08:20.240 X out of that.

05:08:21.000 What about the whatever picture?

05:08:22.540 All right.

05:08:22.800 Young Brian.

05:08:23.680 I don't know.

05:08:23.900 I was 22, 23.

05:08:25.080 Brian.

05:08:25.560 All right.

05:08:26.200 Yeah, look.

05:08:28.360 Aging's a bitch.

05:08:30.840 Aging's a fucking bitch.

05:08:32.360 They said you're still really attractive.

05:08:34.080 Wait, you look just as good now.

05:08:35.680 Oh, okay.

05:08:36.640 Please.

05:08:37.660 Please.

05:08:38.400 Are you hitting on him?

05:08:39.380 No, I'm just trying to get him to lift his own rating and to not walk around and say

05:08:44.440 he's a five.

05:08:45.280 Look, I just acknowledge.

05:08:47.180 Well, I mean, this is a different segment where we say, do you think people will be better

05:08:51.020 looking as they age?

05:08:52.220 But honestly, older guys are cute.

05:08:55.060 Like what?

05:08:56.000 Oh.

05:08:56.600 No, I'm not saying that.

05:08:57.980 I'm not saying that.

05:08:59.080 You know what?

05:09:00.120 She's the kind of girl.

05:09:01.500 She's the kind of girl like she wants to argue with her boyfriend.

05:09:06.360 She wants to get into political debates with her boyfriend.

05:09:08.840 You're kind of right.

05:09:09.440 You're kind of right.

05:09:09.460 She's like, yeah, let's debate.

05:09:12.240 Wait, I love a good argument.

05:09:13.400 Wait, I was just messing with you, but you really like him, huh?

05:09:17.140 That's not what I'm saying.

05:09:18.080 I just don't like that he's walking around saying like half of me is not up to par.

05:09:22.120 Like I'm only a five out of ten.

05:09:23.460 Why do you think he's a ten?

05:09:25.740 What the fuck?

05:09:28.260 I'm going to start blushing over here.

05:09:30.220 Wait, this is cute.

05:09:33.660 Enemies to lovers.

05:09:34.840 That's so beautiful.

05:09:35.920 Enemies to lovers.

05:09:38.060 That's not what I want, guys.

05:09:39.460 Like he's getting red.

05:09:42.780 All right.

05:09:43.900 Cool.

05:09:45.940 Like what do you think makes you a five?

05:09:48.500 That's awesome.

05:09:49.180 Well, first off, I'm a little bit overweight.

05:09:54.300 Got to lose a bit of weight.

05:09:55.880 That's, you know, part of it.

05:09:57.420 I used to be super fit, but look.

05:09:59.660 You could probably like fight better, though, you know?

05:10:02.880 You know, like more inertia, like a bouncer, you know?

05:10:05.920 We have to be kind of bulky.

05:10:07.100 I mean, if I was like wrestling with a guy.

05:10:08.820 I wrestled in high school.

05:10:09.660 If I was wrestling with a guy, my weight could be an advantage because it's harder to move more weight.

05:10:16.160 So you could be a better protector.

05:10:17.180 But no, I'd be, I'd, I would be a better, honestly, I would be a better protector at 150 pounds than whatever the fuck I'm at right now.

05:10:26.100 It's, it's, it's over 200, which is no bueno.

05:10:30.540 Okay.

05:10:30.880 But just like convert that into muscle and you'll be good.

05:10:33.480 That's what I'm working on.

05:10:35.140 I'm working on.

05:10:36.000 Look, I was, I was stressful, period.

05:10:37.960 I was stress eating.

05:10:38.620 Wait, but some girls don't even like guys who are like super skinny.

05:10:40.960 Like they like a guy with more meat on their own.

05:10:42.660 She's not for me then.

05:10:43.860 I don't like.

05:10:44.460 She ain't the one, but, uh, uh, what else?

05:10:49.200 I mean, I don't know.

05:10:50.320 What makes me a five?

05:10:51.560 Okay.

05:10:51.680 That's five whole points off.

05:10:52.720 I don't know.

05:10:53.240 I'm pale.

05:10:56.280 What's wrong with being pale?

05:10:57.560 I'm pale.

05:10:58.500 I'm a, I get dandruff sometimes.

05:11:01.820 My face is red.

05:11:03.440 You don't have any dandruff.

05:11:04.440 I don't see any dandruff.

05:11:05.560 Oh, head and shoulders.

05:11:06.760 It's been.

05:11:07.380 So it's been working.

05:11:08.200 So no points off there.

05:11:09.380 Yeah.

05:11:09.580 But it's, you know, whatever.

05:11:11.040 Uh, I don't know.

05:11:11.920 Big nose.

05:11:13.300 Um, I don't know how to articulate.

05:11:17.120 I'm a five.

05:11:18.260 Why are you insulting yourself?

05:11:20.220 No.

05:11:20.460 Yeah.

05:11:20.640 Stop insulting.

05:11:21.760 For me.

05:11:23.380 I don't think it's like big noses.

05:11:25.580 I don't think it's insult.

05:11:26.940 I'm not like insecure.

05:11:28.080 Like, oh my God, I hate how I look.

05:11:30.100 I'm just like, it is what it is.

05:11:32.340 I know I'm not a male model and that's okay.

05:11:34.860 I'm fine with it.

05:11:35.660 You can be with some makeup.

05:11:39.560 You can, you can.

05:11:43.640 Okay.

05:11:44.440 Um, cool.

05:11:45.320 We have a chat here from.

05:11:49.020 Pasty George donating $200.

05:11:52.320 Chair one on a scale of one to 10 for attractiveness.

05:11:55.680 You are a five, which is average, but that's my opinion.

05:11:59.980 And others in the chat will rate you differently.

05:12:02.680 And I'm sure they will, which is why it's so hard to discern what I actually

05:12:05.620 am.

05:12:06.380 Yeah.

05:12:07.800 Can I ask you a question?

05:12:10.120 Sure.

05:12:11.320 You sure?

05:12:12.100 I'm sure.

05:12:12.740 It's not bad.

05:12:13.300 I feel like I should have said you sure.

05:12:14.540 Then she's.

05:12:15.040 No, now I feel like it's bad.

05:12:16.660 Should I not?

05:12:17.120 Should I not ask it?

05:12:18.140 It's really not bad.

05:12:18.940 Ask it.

05:12:19.320 Um, do you, uh, do you pluck your eyebrows?

05:12:26.440 Yeah.

05:12:27.700 Okay.

05:12:28.180 That was it.

05:12:28.840 I was definitely considered less attractive by guys before I started doing that.

05:12:32.740 Like, trust me.

05:12:35.920 Are you saying that they were?

05:12:38.100 They were caterpillars.

05:12:39.440 Caterpillars.

05:12:39.980 Okay.

05:12:40.200 Okay.

05:12:41.640 Okay.

05:12:42.800 Okay.

05:12:44.980 Why?

05:12:45.620 I was just curious.

05:12:49.180 Sorry.

05:12:49.640 Did I make an oopsie?

05:12:51.240 No, it's fine.

05:12:52.560 I, I, I'm not.

05:12:53.340 You thought you don't, maybe you don't like my.

05:12:54.500 Eyebrows are, wait, eyebrows.

05:12:56.140 Yeah.

05:12:56.480 Eyebrows.

05:12:56.900 They're fine.

05:12:57.540 No, it's fine.

05:12:58.720 If you don't like them, that's fine.

05:13:00.040 Like other people compliment my eyebrows.

05:13:02.000 So like, again, it doesn't matter.

05:13:03.360 Like kind of like how I noticed her armpit hair.

05:13:05.240 I was just.

05:13:06.800 You're just pointing out things that you don't find attractive in women.

05:13:09.640 And that's okay.

05:13:10.060 No, I didn't say, I didn't say that your eyebrows are fine.

05:13:12.620 Show me a picture.

05:13:13.480 Show me a picture of how your eyebrows.

05:13:15.540 My phone's over there, but I promise it was not.

05:13:17.600 Your eyebrows are.

05:13:21.560 Magnifique.

05:13:23.020 Très bien.

05:13:23.860 Très bien.

05:13:24.880 Very nice.

05:13:26.120 I wasn't saying I don't like them.

05:13:27.980 I was just asking a question.

05:13:31.580 I'm sorry.

05:13:32.260 Did I, have I.

05:13:33.960 I've just.

05:13:34.620 I've just put my foot in my mouth.

05:13:36.920 Yeah.

05:13:37.180 No, you're pretty.

05:13:38.160 Just don't listen to him.

05:13:39.120 Well, I didn't say she wasn't pretty.

05:13:42.420 You're a very handsome woman.

05:13:45.500 Beautiful.

05:13:46.140 Sorry.

05:13:47.300 Sorry.

05:13:47.740 Sorry.

05:13:47.940 I shouldn't say that word either.

05:13:48.920 Oh my gosh.

05:13:50.820 See, this is, I'm my, I am my own.

05:13:53.960 Biggest.

05:13:57.120 Nevermind.

05:13:59.660 Thanks for your thoughts and opinions.

05:14:02.880 I, I feel like there's nothing I could say now.

05:14:06.220 You look like my sister.

05:14:07.220 You're really pretty.

05:14:07.740 I was just asking a question.

05:14:10.260 Do you want to ask me something?

05:14:12.840 Like.

05:14:15.000 Okay.

05:14:17.160 Oh, we're on an E-date.

05:14:19.800 Anyways.

05:14:20.120 Rating scale.

05:14:23.440 One to ten.

05:14:24.200 Can we fix the mic on the table?

05:14:26.620 Do you want me to grow them out?

05:14:28.840 Which one?

05:14:31.320 Oh, you're asking me if I want you to grow, grow your.

05:14:33.940 My eyebrows out.

05:14:36.500 This one?

05:14:37.220 Oh.

05:14:37.900 We're not even dating and she's giving me authority over her eyebrows.

05:14:41.740 You know what?

05:14:42.400 As the arbiter of eyebrow growth?

05:14:45.360 I don't know.

05:14:47.120 You, you, you'd have to show me a before picture.

05:14:50.820 It was tragic.

05:14:53.000 It was really tragic.

05:14:54.040 Some guys are into that.

05:14:55.440 And some guys are into thin brows.

05:14:57.060 So, again, this is where, this is why I take issue with the whole one to ten thing.

05:15:01.760 Just make things awkward.

05:15:02.940 Yeah.

05:15:03.500 You kind of did.

05:15:04.960 It's been awkward.

05:15:05.700 Do you want me to like crash out about it?

05:15:07.160 Like, I feel like I'm just.

05:15:08.000 I think Brian feels bad because he doesn't want to make you feel bad.

05:15:12.200 No, okay.

05:15:13.020 Again, like, I don't base my self-worth based on, like, other people's opinions on how I look.

05:15:17.380 Yeah, I think Brian just, he just feels a little bad and thinks he made it awkward.

05:15:21.100 No, it's okay.

05:15:22.080 You don't have to like my eyebrows.

05:15:23.740 I didn't say I didn't like your eyebrows.

05:15:25.720 Your eyebrows are great.

05:15:26.660 They kind of go with your style.

05:15:28.140 I like them.

05:15:28.300 I was just asking if, if you do pluck your eyebrows.

05:15:34.140 I do.

05:15:35.220 I want to explore.

05:15:36.780 You know what?

05:15:37.200 I feel like I got to, I got to make a confession.

05:15:40.940 Sometimes, you know what?

05:15:42.660 I, do you have trichotillomania?

05:15:44.700 What is that?

05:15:45.700 Like a compulsive hair pulling or plucking or whatever.

05:15:50.160 All right.

05:15:50.820 I'm going to, you know what?

05:15:52.040 Cause I feel bad.

05:15:53.560 I'm a expose myself.

05:15:55.220 Okay.

05:15:57.280 I.

05:15:57.900 Don't do it, Brian.

05:15:59.140 What the fuck?

05:16:00.260 Shut up, Nick.

05:16:01.380 Sorry.

05:16:01.580 I get a couple, I get a couple little ear hairs and I pluck them.

05:16:08.320 I, I pluck my eyes.

05:16:10.280 Like, like on the right here.

05:16:12.280 I pluck.

05:16:13.120 Okay.

05:16:14.160 I pluck them.

05:16:15.440 Yeah.

05:16:15.600 Good.

05:16:16.640 As you should.

05:16:17.540 Yeah.

05:16:18.240 Clip it and chip it, boys.

05:16:19.460 Um, it's just like my personal style.

05:16:22.240 That's all.

05:16:22.640 Like there's a lot of.

05:16:23.020 I love that for you.

05:16:24.340 I think it's maybe.

05:16:25.440 Yeah.

05:16:25.620 The way you say things.

05:16:27.280 I put that.

05:16:28.360 Oh my God.

05:16:28.980 I feel like I'm guilty of a fucking genocide or some shit.

05:16:31.660 Like I'm guilty.

05:16:32.280 I feel like I haven't reacted very strongly for you to feel so awkward or guilty.

05:16:36.080 Like I.

05:16:36.540 Am I projecting?

05:16:38.520 I feel like I'm projecting.

05:16:39.160 No.

05:16:39.520 I, I just, I don't really care if you don't like them.

05:16:41.800 It's fine.

05:16:42.400 Like.

05:16:43.080 I love.

05:16:43.620 What do you, why are you saying that?

05:16:44.420 I don't like them.

05:16:45.100 I think they're beautiful.

05:16:47.300 Aw.

05:16:48.500 They're great.

05:16:49.140 I just noticed.

05:16:52.920 I was just asking a question.

05:16:55.800 Okay.

05:16:56.220 Moving on.

05:16:56.880 Uh, uh, rating people from one to 10.

05:17:00.760 Don't.

05:17:01.260 Why are you looking at me that way?

05:17:03.120 Is it just me?

05:17:04.040 She's like daggers.

05:17:06.400 Daggers.

05:17:07.040 I don't know.

05:17:07.400 I just spent all this time uplifting him and now he was taking shots.

05:17:10.260 I'm like, I'm not taking shots.

05:17:11.600 The whole reason you brought it up is to like.

05:17:14.560 Okay, fine.

05:17:15.280 I'll pay you a compliment.

05:17:16.540 Your nose.

05:17:17.660 10 out of 10.

05:17:20.140 Thank you.

05:17:21.320 Give her another one.

05:17:22.380 It's honestly.

05:17:23.980 Did you get a nose job?

05:17:26.300 She's got a great nose.

05:17:27.880 That's like God tier.

05:17:29.920 10 out of 10 nose.

05:17:30.880 Wait, actually?

05:17:31.700 I never actually thought that.

05:17:32.800 Yeah.

05:17:33.000 Look to the side.

05:17:33.460 Very nice nose.

05:17:34.240 Very nice nose.

05:17:35.060 Great nose.

05:17:36.680 Beautiful nose.

05:17:38.000 Cute eyes.

05:17:38.840 Make noses great again.

05:17:41.520 Oh, wow.

05:17:42.000 I have a big nose.

05:17:42.820 Shit.

05:17:43.040 I, I can tell.

05:17:45.280 You do.

05:17:46.260 Thank you, Bella.

05:17:46.940 I don't think I'm right.

05:17:47.660 But it's all, it's okay.

05:17:49.980 Thank you, Bella.

05:17:50.740 This is a safe space.

05:17:52.780 Oh my God.

05:17:53.540 I'm so awkward.

05:17:54.340 Okay.

05:17:55.380 This is not a safe space.

05:17:57.480 Oh.

05:17:57.880 Thank you for sharing that.

05:17:59.800 But be so true.

05:18:00.620 Thank you for the contribution.

05:18:01.720 Come on.

05:18:02.020 Thank you.

05:18:03.240 Okay.

05:18:04.000 Rating people 1 to 10.

05:18:07.580 I do think that they're, so beauty I don't think is purely subjective.

05:18:12.300 Damn, do I grow my eyebrows out now?

05:18:13.820 Oh, you made her insecure.

05:18:15.220 See, I.

05:18:16.440 It's okay.

05:18:18.620 You are beautiful just the way you are.

05:18:21.200 I don't think you believe that.

05:18:22.320 It sounds.

05:18:23.000 I don't think you believe that.

05:18:23.900 Maybe say it differently.

05:18:25.540 No, it's fine.

05:18:26.260 It sounded a little.

05:18:26.880 Do you want to like call me fat or something?

05:18:29.040 No, I don't.

05:18:29.700 To make it equal?

05:18:30.580 I don't take joy in taking shots of people's appearance.

05:18:33.160 It's okay.

05:18:33.880 I'm confident in myself.

05:18:36.580 Just call me chubby.

05:18:37.440 Go ahead.

05:18:38.260 You're not chubby.

05:18:39.520 Call me rotund.

05:18:41.520 You're not rotund.

05:18:42.640 Call me Rubenesque.

05:18:45.120 Rubenesque.

05:18:45.680 Call me a big, beautiful black woman.

05:18:53.040 Sorry.

05:18:53.500 Wait, wait.

05:18:53.880 Hold on.

05:18:54.540 Big bond.

05:18:55.200 Call me.

05:18:56.180 Okay.

05:18:57.180 Wait.

05:18:57.600 Sorry.

05:18:58.420 I.

05:18:58.560 Oh, did that offend you?

05:18:59.480 Sorry.

05:18:59.900 No.

05:19:00.380 What?

05:19:00.940 You just want to.

05:19:02.940 Go ahead.

05:19:03.360 Offend me how?

05:19:04.180 I want to know how you could have offended me.

05:19:10.940 Sorry.

05:19:11.420 Go ahead.

05:19:11.940 What's.

05:19:12.340 What do you.

05:19:12.760 What did you want to say?

05:19:13.620 Oh, my stomach hurts.

05:19:17.180 Holy shit.

05:19:18.000 Thank you for sharing that.

05:19:19.340 I've been wondering all night.

05:19:21.200 You know, I was just thinking.

05:19:22.340 I was been sitting here this whole time.

05:19:23.940 Like, damn, I wonder how her stomach feels right now.

05:19:26.920 She.

05:19:27.520 And I feel like I can't.

05:19:29.300 I can't.

05:19:30.360 I don't know.

05:19:31.560 I'm not as engaging as I usually am right now.

05:19:37.560 Oh, my God, bro.

05:19:39.240 What am I dealing with tonight?

05:19:40.580 Oh, shit.

05:19:41.580 Oh, shit.

05:19:42.300 You're dealing with normal shit.

05:19:44.560 Oh, okay.

05:19:44.760 Wait, did you drive here?

05:19:46.100 Uh-huh.

05:19:46.440 No.

05:19:47.720 But, yeah, no.

05:19:48.820 So, I feel like I'm going to tap out.

05:19:51.400 Just because.

05:19:52.600 Or you can just sit there.

05:19:54.860 You want me to sit here?

05:19:56.320 Wait.

05:19:59.560 Never mind.

05:20:00.780 What?

05:20:01.240 Sorry.

05:20:01.540 What are you going to do again?

05:20:03.240 Because they told me I had to announce it.

05:20:05.580 No, you're fine.

05:20:06.300 Don't worry about it.

05:20:06.860 You're just going to.

05:20:07.680 Just enjoy the rest of the show.

05:20:09.980 Hold on.

05:20:10.440 We have a message here from Pasty George.

05:20:12.700 What do you mean enjoy?

05:20:13.860 Pasty George donated $200.

05:20:17.080 Many Western women nowadays are a generic copy and paste of each other who are always insecure,

05:20:22.920 never true to themselves, and always trying to get the top guys instead of the down-to-earth ones.

05:20:29.000 Spicy take there, Pasty George.

05:20:30.800 Go hurt you, Pasty George.

05:20:31.520 Thank you, Pasty.

05:20:31.960 Appreciate it.

05:20:32.960 Appreciate it.

05:20:33.740 Thank you.

05:20:33.960 W. Pasty George.

05:20:35.060 Pasty Canadian.

05:20:35.800 W. Kenda.

05:20:37.360 Do we have any Canadians here?

05:20:39.020 No?

05:20:39.560 Okay, I didn't think so.

05:20:41.240 From where?

05:20:41.960 I'm not Canadian.

05:20:42.820 I've just been there many times.

05:20:44.960 Where were we?

05:20:46.480 The looks thing.

05:20:47.660 Oh, right.

05:20:48.320 Yeah.

05:20:49.080 You know, I think, though, across cultures, there are, like, universal things that will be

05:20:54.660 deemed beautiful.

05:20:55.360 Like, for example, why, even cultures who never contacted each other in history, what is it about

05:21:03.360 a flower that's beautiful, cross-culturally, universally?

05:21:08.100 What is it about a sunset that is beautiful?

05:21:10.800 There's so many different things, too, because they articulate it so differently.

05:21:14.920 Like, it could, like, metaphorically mean something different.

05:21:17.660 Like, do you not understand what I said?

05:21:21.660 Come on.

05:21:22.580 Stop, stop, stop.

05:21:23.980 That made so much sense.

05:21:25.460 They want everything to be aesthetically pleasing.

05:21:26.280 Like, a sunset can metaphorically be, like, the end of something, like, you know, letting

05:21:32.980 go of something, and then this...

05:21:35.320 Totally.

05:21:35.560 Yes.

05:21:36.240 You're so right.

05:21:36.960 You suck.

05:21:37.600 I agree with everything you just said.

05:21:38.900 I just gave you the opportunity to tap out, and I'm still trying to help you out.

05:21:43.660 Thank you.

05:21:44.160 Appreciate that.

05:21:44.720 Wait, Brian, have you seen that one tribe in Thailand where they, like, they put rings

05:21:48.860 around their...

05:21:49.460 I can't read what's going on in your head, Brian.

05:21:52.760 Sorry, what?

05:21:53.760 Yeah.

05:21:54.160 Hold on.

05:21:54.460 Let her...

05:21:54.780 Let her...

05:21:55.860 No, you go ahead.

05:21:56.820 You go ahead.

05:21:57.160 Okay.

05:21:57.480 Yeah, you go ahead.

05:21:57.800 Like, there's, like, in certain parts of Africa, like, women will put, like, really

05:22:01.460 large, like, circle plates on their lip.

05:22:04.460 In certain tribes in Thailand, women will put, like, rings on their neck.

05:22:08.340 Like, and I think in some part of Polynesia, women will get, like, as fat as possible to

05:22:12.400 seem, like, healthy.

05:22:13.500 So, like, there's not much that's universal about some of those things.

05:22:17.960 Well, I'm not saying every single thing that will be deemed beautiful is universal.

05:22:23.440 That's clearly not true.

05:22:25.760 You know, and we see this across a whole bunch of different things, but I would argue that

05:22:30.520 probably the majority of people...

05:22:33.500 I mean, and these are really typically small sample sizes you're talking about, like, the

05:22:38.180 tribe, the women who have the neck thing, really small proportion of women.

05:22:41.920 I think a larger scale.

05:22:42.780 Like, in China, for example, like, the standards to have, like, a really small face, like, big

05:22:46.640 ears is an attractive thing, like, as pale as possible, whereas in the U.S., like, women

05:22:50.620 try and be, like, or have, like, be, like, less skinny than that, or they try to be, like,

05:22:55.260 a little more tan or to have, like, bigger lips.

05:22:57.880 And then in, like, Africa, like, in Nigeria, like, the expectation is for women to have, like,

05:23:01.500 really big butts, like, be really curvy.

05:23:03.440 By the way, just big lips are across the board attractive.

05:23:07.900 In China?

05:23:08.440 No, no, no.

05:23:08.920 Like...

05:23:09.040 Even in Asian countries.

05:23:10.740 No, like, in a lot of East Asian countries, like, smaller lips are considered attractive.

05:23:14.860 Why?

05:23:15.260 No, no, no.

05:23:15.660 It's true.

05:23:16.360 There's so many different Asian countries.

05:23:17.660 I mean, I wouldn't collapse...

05:23:18.040 Okay, China specifically, like, smaller lips is attractive.

05:23:21.120 Looking at more, like, Southeast Asian countries, like Vietnam, like Thailand, I actually think

05:23:27.420 genetically Southeast Asian women tend to have big, more fuller lips.

05:23:31.900 I was talking about East Asian countries.

05:23:33.220 That is true.

05:23:33.440 As compared to, like, Koreans or Japanese or Chinese, but I do think it is actually the

05:23:40.060 beauty standard in...

05:23:42.140 I couldn't speak specifically to, like, Korea, Japan.

05:23:44.940 I would argue even then, though, like, full plump lips are deemed, like, it's universally

05:23:50.220 attractive.

05:23:51.120 The standard, it's...

05:23:51.980 I think it's to have, like, small, like, heart-shaped lips.

05:23:54.420 That's what I've seen.

05:23:55.180 Like, I used to, like, be into, like, K-pop and, like, I saw, like, that's what, like,

05:23:59.360 K-pop idols were doing and stuff like that.

05:24:01.900 Like, it really...

05:24:02.760 The point is, like, there are standards that vary a lot.

05:24:05.060 What about for white people?

05:24:06.720 In America?

05:24:08.280 Yeah.

05:24:09.180 Well, I think the standard is to have big lips.

05:24:12.700 Mm-hmm.

05:24:13.400 Okay.

05:24:15.720 Because, I mean, I would go back to, like, the 90s or the early 2000s.

05:24:21.100 Angelina Jolie, big, plump lips.

05:24:24.060 Everybody was like, that's beautiful.

05:24:26.240 Mm-hmm.

05:24:26.360 Um, okay.

05:24:29.500 We're gonna do a fun segment now.

05:24:31.120 We've talked about some...

05:24:32.520 I blame her for everything.

05:24:36.120 All of you here who had to endure all these terrible political conversations.

05:24:41.620 Just don't blame me as the host and owner of the podcast.

05:24:46.020 Blame her.

05:24:47.520 Why would we blame her?

05:24:49.320 Because...

05:24:49.880 Why don't we blame you, Brian?

05:24:51.520 Because she's a...

05:24:52.840 She's...

05:24:53.880 Anyways.

05:24:55.440 I think you don't like me.

05:24:56.620 So, we're gonna do a fun segment, though.

05:24:58.360 Oh, first, I have to ask the question.

05:24:59.800 Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?

05:25:03.820 I think women reach their peak attractiveness at, like, 27.

05:25:07.460 Like, if you look at Angelina Jolie throughout the years, she looked her best at 27, 28.

05:25:11.240 And that'll be...

05:25:11.940 Like, that's the age I'll be in 10 years.

05:25:13.880 So, better looking at 28?

05:25:15.760 Yeah.

05:25:16.240 Okay.

05:25:16.560 What about 20 years, 38?

05:25:18.260 Better looking than now?

05:25:19.840 I'll be less conventionally attractive in 20, 30 years.

05:25:22.860 You're 20.

05:25:23.300 Better looking in 10 years' time at 30?

05:25:24.940 For you?

05:25:26.380 Better looking...

05:25:27.300 In 30 years?

05:25:28.480 Sorry.

05:25:29.240 You're 20 now.

05:25:30.220 Better looking in 10.

05:25:31.180 So, at 30.

05:25:32.040 Better looking?

05:25:33.560 I think around the same.

05:25:35.740 Same?

05:25:36.140 Okay.

05:25:36.400 What about 40?

05:25:36.980 Better looking?

05:25:37.780 Worse than 20?

05:25:39.960 Around the same.

05:25:41.400 Same at 40?

05:25:42.160 Okay.

05:25:42.320 What about 50?

05:25:42.860 After that is the decline, I think.

05:25:45.280 That's the...

05:25:45.760 Okay.

05:25:46.280 24, better looking in 10 years' time?

05:25:49.140 So, like, yeah, because I'm going to be good looking for the 30-year-olds.

05:25:53.380 And then when I'm 40, I'm going to be good looking for the 40-year-olds.

05:25:56.640 So, yeah.

05:25:57.700 Because everyone has their perception of good looking.

05:26:00.640 Well, the question isn't some...

05:26:01.940 Absolutely, people can be attractive for their age.

05:26:04.780 People can still be just generally across the board attractive.

05:26:09.340 But the question is compared to now.

05:26:11.220 Better looking at 34.

05:26:13.040 Yeah, yeah.

05:26:14.020 44?

05:26:14.600 Yeah.

05:26:15.700 44?

05:26:16.480 Yeah.

05:26:17.260 54?

05:26:17.820 Better looking than that?

05:26:20.180 I don't want to talk low.

05:26:22.020 No.

05:26:22.840 Yeah.

05:26:23.400 Yeah.

05:26:23.640 I'm going to keep good.

05:26:24.460 Yeah.

05:26:24.680 All right.

05:26:24.960 What about that?

05:26:25.220 I'm not going to talk low myself.

05:26:27.040 Thank you.

05:26:28.640 Save us, please.

05:26:29.600 What about you?

05:26:30.580 Save who?

05:26:32.380 Not you.

05:26:33.160 What the fuck?

05:26:33.680 Oh, gosh.

05:26:34.140 Okay.

05:26:34.680 Better looking in 10 years?

05:26:35.900 Yeah, I think so.

05:26:36.780 20 years?

05:26:37.240 Yeah.

05:26:38.300 30 years?

05:26:39.140 Yeah.

05:26:39.560 40 years?

05:26:40.400 Yeah.

05:26:41.840 Where's the cutoff?

05:26:42.400 Good genetics run in my family.

05:26:43.880 Okay.

05:26:44.260 What is the saying?

05:26:45.640 Black don't crack?

05:26:46.300 Exactly.

05:26:47.140 Asian don't raisin.

05:26:48.100 And I feel like Hispanic don't either.

05:26:51.140 I don't know.

05:26:52.320 Dot, dot, dot.

05:26:53.020 Dot, dot, dot.

05:26:54.240 Dot, dot, dot.

05:26:55.240 Exhibit A, me, over here.

05:26:58.000 Okay.

05:26:58.440 What about you?

05:26:58.900 Better looking in 10 years' time?

05:27:00.260 No, I don't think I'm going to look better in 10 years.

05:27:05.840 Wait, shh.

05:27:16.300 I'm so sorry.

05:27:17.240 Oh, my God.

05:27:17.940 What the fuck, Bella?

05:27:18.740 Oh, my gosh, bro.

05:27:24.660 What the heck am I doing with this?

05:27:27.460 I'm just chilling.

05:27:28.460 She's better looking in 10 years' time?

05:27:30.900 Into the mic.

05:27:32.140 Anyways, Bella, what about you?

05:27:33.560 I think yes.

05:27:35.580 20 years' time?

05:27:36.560 Better looking?

05:27:38.580 That's 40, yes.

05:27:42.020 50?

05:27:42.660 No.

05:27:43.220 Okay.

05:27:44.040 Felicity, we've done you.

05:27:45.020 What about you?

05:27:45.480 You're 36, better looking in 10 years' time?

05:27:48.520 I don't think so.

05:27:49.500 And then were you better looking at 26?

05:27:51.640 No, I think I look better now, actually.

05:27:52.940 Better now.

05:27:53.660 And just curious, like, did you lose weight, gain weight?

05:27:56.120 I think I just kind of learned what works better for me, like, in terms of just, like,

05:28:00.660 you know, everything, like, makeup, hair, everything.

05:28:02.980 Gotcha.

05:28:03.460 Okay, cool.

05:28:04.680 Once she got up, we got, okay, we do the segment where we put all of you through AI.

05:28:09.920 AI?

05:28:10.120 And then we've made all of you men.

05:28:12.060 We've turned all of you into men.

05:28:13.400 Oh, we don't do that.

05:28:14.520 Why are we...

05:28:15.100 I say you're five times.

05:28:16.040 Fuck with AI.

05:28:16.940 Oh, we don't have either?

05:28:18.100 No, we have the first one.

05:28:19.720 Oh, but not the...

05:28:21.400 Was that the...

05:28:22.220 Oh, okay.

05:28:22.900 When did that happen?

05:28:24.180 When did that happen?

05:28:25.320 We actually, like, took these pictures a week ago.

05:28:29.380 We just stalked you guys to where you live.

05:28:32.760 Oh, that's nice.

05:28:33.340 And we had, like, a photographer with, like, a zoom lens.

05:28:36.740 No, sorry.

05:28:37.180 Just kidding.

05:28:37.980 No, just from the stream.

05:28:41.220 From the stream.

05:28:43.040 Hold on one sec.

05:28:44.240 Okay.

05:28:45.380 Here, we're going to do some...

05:28:46.700 What's that?

05:28:47.120 Are they good, though?

05:28:48.100 Or is it bad?

05:28:48.860 Oh, you guys are...

05:28:49.300 Did you do something?

05:28:49.740 All of you...

05:28:50.300 No.

05:28:50.720 All of you are...

05:28:52.680 Took some MILFs.

05:28:53.780 MILFs.

05:28:55.220 So, I confirmed beforehand.

05:28:57.940 I don't know.

05:28:58.580 Wait, are you going to be rating the gender, the AI version of us?

05:29:02.380 Would you date?

05:29:03.400 Oh, would you date yourself, kind of?

05:29:05.100 Oh, who here would date Luigi Mangione?

05:29:08.440 Me.

05:29:10.200 Wait.

05:29:10.780 Hold on.

05:29:11.160 Okay, starting with you.

05:29:12.140 While you're married, but if you're single...

05:29:13.820 Wakes up, that's the first thing she is.

05:29:15.780 No.

05:29:16.980 Just based on looks, or...

05:29:18.440 No, no, no.

05:29:18.900 Like, you know that guy assassinated somebody.

05:29:21.860 I don't want...

05:29:22.300 I don't want jailbirds.

05:29:23.040 Oh, that Luigi.

05:29:24.040 Bella?

05:29:25.140 Wait, didn't you say yes, Bella?

05:29:26.660 No.

05:29:27.280 Oh, I thought I heard a yes.

05:29:29.680 Okay.

05:29:29.920 Would you date Luigi Mangione, the assassin of the healthcare guy, the CEO?

05:29:36.860 I mean, hell yes.

05:29:38.120 Into the mic.

05:29:38.800 You can come back.

05:29:39.560 Go ahead.

05:29:41.040 Yes, you would.

05:29:41.980 Would you date Luigi if you were single, hypothetically?

05:29:44.740 No.

05:29:45.340 No?

05:29:45.700 Would you date Luigi?

05:29:47.260 No, just because he's a killer.

05:29:49.160 Okay.

05:29:49.940 Oh, possibly.

05:29:51.560 Yeah, can you put your feet down, please?

05:29:53.700 Sorry, I got cold.

05:29:55.840 No, because he's a killer.

05:29:57.800 Okay.

05:29:58.540 Hello.

05:29:58.780 Well...

05:29:59.060 Realistically, no.

05:30:00.860 Wait, hold on.

05:30:02.280 Realistically, no?

05:30:03.620 What do you mean?

05:30:04.160 I get his, like, appeal, but, like...

05:30:06.520 Oh, boy.

05:30:07.220 That's not, like, datable.

05:30:08.240 That's why.

05:30:08.400 That's not datable.

05:30:09.420 That's why I ask...

05:30:09.520 It's like, oh, I see if it's just based on looks.

05:30:12.320 Yeah.

05:30:13.300 Because based on looks, yes, but, like, him, entirely, no.

05:30:16.760 Yeah, it's the whole package.

05:30:18.000 Whole package.

05:30:18.940 Can't really ignore the whole...

05:30:20.840 Probably will spend the rest of his life in jail.

05:30:22.840 You gotta understand his motive, though.

05:30:25.100 Let's say he got out, whatever.

05:30:27.240 The motive.

05:30:28.120 Oh, boy.

05:30:29.040 Okay.

05:30:29.440 I'm not...

05:30:29.840 I won't debate.

05:30:30.580 I'm not gonna debate the Luigi Mangioni stuff.

05:30:33.060 But do you wanna debate the healthcare system in the U.S.?

05:30:36.020 Yeah, there's definitely flaws in the healthcare system.

05:30:39.120 I think that you shouldn't assassinate somebody, you know.

05:30:42.840 But that should really tell you something, right?

05:30:47.140 You're right.

05:30:47.840 It should tell me something.

05:30:49.260 What it's telling me, I'm not sure, but...

05:30:52.240 Anyways, let's pull it up, Nick.

05:30:54.520 We have...

05:30:54.860 Do we have it?

05:30:55.460 We got it.

05:30:56.100 Let's do it.

05:30:57.080 Oh, God.

05:30:58.020 What is it?

05:30:58.720 The gender stop?

05:31:00.360 I think it's just the looks and whatever.

05:31:02.660 No, I'm curious.

05:31:03.880 Oh.

05:31:04.960 Okay.

05:31:05.700 Smaller?

05:31:06.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:31:07.260 Go ahead.

05:31:07.760 Oh.

05:31:08.460 They made your eye super big on the far right.

05:31:11.260 But the middle one's good.

05:31:12.060 All right.

05:31:12.700 There you go.

05:31:14.300 Let's just do next, I guess.

05:31:15.980 I want to do that.

05:31:17.100 Whoa.

05:31:18.260 Damn.

05:31:18.620 Wow.

05:31:20.340 Nice.

05:31:20.940 Oh, goodness.

05:31:22.520 I might want to see that again.

05:31:24.480 Okay.

05:31:25.060 All right.

05:31:25.580 Next.

05:31:26.160 I have a filter like this on the top.

05:31:28.520 Wow.

05:31:29.620 Holy.

05:31:30.860 Damn.

05:31:31.420 Y'all did her dirty.

05:31:32.920 Whoa.

05:31:33.540 Now, the question you have to...

05:31:34.620 The eye thing I don't want to do is...

05:31:37.680 But I don't...

05:31:38.720 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

05:31:41.020 I look like a hippie grandma that, like, owns a farm.

05:31:44.620 And I'm trying to live like that.

05:31:46.380 You're so right.

05:31:47.260 So, honestly...

05:31:47.920 The question I want you to...

05:31:49.940 And she got cool-ass hair, too.

05:31:51.820 I pay attention to detail.

05:31:53.180 What I want everybody to look at is...

05:31:55.900 You see the tattoo on her neck?

05:31:57.420 On the left, it looks like the skull of the, I don't know, a bull or some animal or whatever.

05:32:03.520 On the far right, that just looks like your neck.

05:32:07.280 You know what I mean?

05:32:08.240 You know how, like, old people get...

05:32:09.460 No.

05:32:09.940 You know what I mean?

05:32:10.440 No?

05:32:10.640 Okay.

05:32:10.900 I can still see the tattoo pretty clearly.

05:32:12.760 All right.

05:32:12.960 Thanks for listening.

05:32:13.680 Appreciate it.

05:32:14.100 Thanks for the backup.

05:32:15.300 Next.

05:32:18.080 What?

05:32:18.680 That was kind of crazy.

05:32:19.620 That was...

05:32:20.260 You see?

05:32:20.600 That was crazy.

05:32:21.300 No, that's...

05:32:21.980 Hey, not bad.

05:32:23.380 Not bad.

05:32:24.140 She's cute.

05:32:25.180 All right.

05:32:26.140 Oh, but my...

05:32:27.260 Okay.

05:32:27.900 Next.

05:32:28.480 Oh.

05:32:29.200 Wow.

05:32:29.600 She's cute, too.

05:32:30.800 Into the mic.

05:32:31.400 Into the mic.

05:32:32.180 That's special.

05:32:33.040 That's really special.

05:32:34.500 I kind of like her.

05:32:35.340 I fuck with her.

05:32:36.340 No, you kind of look good.

05:32:37.420 I feel like...

05:32:38.040 We can't, Bella.

05:32:38.760 We can't.

05:32:39.660 You're going to look great, Bella.

05:32:41.200 You're going to...

05:32:41.640 No, no.

05:32:42.080 Bella, you're going to be...

05:32:43.880 No, Bella.

05:32:45.720 No, Bella.

05:32:47.220 All right.

05:32:48.560 Look at this.

05:32:49.160 Wow.

05:32:51.420 Next.

05:32:52.380 She's hiding.

05:32:53.420 Bro, what the hell?

05:32:54.300 I mean...

05:32:58.480 She's kind of the same in the first video.

05:33:00.640 It's not that bad, to be honest.

05:33:02.140 I know.

05:33:03.080 It's like no difference.

05:33:04.400 It's like canvas.

05:33:05.640 It looks like if I went through plastic surgery, if I decided to go through it.

05:33:11.860 No gender, by the way.

05:33:13.100 Just take another chance.

05:33:14.240 Next.

05:33:15.120 Uh-oh.

05:33:15.760 Watch out, Bella.

05:33:16.800 Or wait, maybe it's out of order.

05:33:18.060 It's like hiding.

05:33:18.880 Oh.

05:33:19.420 Oh, my God.

05:33:20.300 Wait, I'm not in it.

05:33:21.680 Yes.

05:33:22.000 I know you are.

05:33:24.100 You are.

05:33:24.800 You certainly are.

05:33:27.660 Okay.

05:33:28.560 That's, you know, it's not bad.

05:33:30.040 I think we're done.

05:33:30.920 Next.

05:33:31.680 Next.

05:33:32.760 No, I don't want...

05:33:34.000 Oh, she's cute.

05:33:36.240 Bella.

05:33:36.840 You got to look at the screen, Bella.

05:33:38.260 Bella, Bella.

05:33:38.780 That one's cute.

05:33:40.300 Honestly, they did you really fucking dirty.

05:33:42.380 I'm going to be honest.

05:33:44.040 They did you dirty.

05:33:44.980 They did you really dirty.

05:33:46.440 Did you see it?

05:33:47.260 Yeah.

05:33:47.700 Wait, why are you...

05:33:48.380 She's hiding behind me.

05:33:51.760 She's hiding behind me.

05:33:53.580 Okay, you don't need to put it on the screen again.

05:33:55.680 Okay, okay, okay.

05:33:55.960 It's okay.

05:33:56.340 Mine's going to be really bad.

05:33:56.980 Next.

05:33:57.380 Okay.

05:33:59.280 Oh, well, she...

05:34:00.280 Oh.

05:34:01.020 Oh.

05:34:02.040 I...

05:34:02.460 She, uh...

05:34:03.400 I guess her something health thing with her kids, so she had to leave.

05:34:08.900 Yeah.

05:34:09.680 Next.

05:34:11.000 Ew.

05:34:11.980 Oh, cute.

05:34:12.780 Wait, why...

05:34:13.880 She looks like she needs a tone or something, and the hair is so yellow.

05:34:16.920 Why'd they make my hair yellow?

05:34:17.900 Anyways, next.

05:34:20.200 Oh, okay.

05:34:21.160 All right.

05:34:21.740 Wait.

05:34:22.080 You look like my dad kind of does.

05:34:23.360 That was the worst one.

05:34:26.140 That one's like...

05:34:27.020 They did you so dirty.

05:34:28.400 That was literally the worst one.

05:34:30.640 That's fucked up.

05:34:31.360 Is there another one, or is that it?

05:34:32.920 That literally looks like my dad.

05:34:34.900 Shit.

05:34:35.780 That looks like your dad?

05:34:37.480 That is...

05:34:37.920 Like, really similar.

05:34:39.600 Oh, fuck.

05:34:42.820 Okay, cool.

05:34:43.480 Uh, no gender swap, then, I guess.

05:34:46.580 Nick?

05:34:47.200 I'm kind of curious.

05:34:48.860 I kind of wanted to see.

05:34:49.900 Uh, let's see.

05:34:53.200 Okay, we're going to blast through the pre-show notes really quick, so hold on.

05:34:58.520 Uh, we did...

05:35:00.220 Okay.

05:35:02.980 Hmm, one sec, one sec.

05:35:05.420 Oh, um...

05:35:08.060 Hmm.

05:35:08.520 Wait, you said you grew up...

05:35:13.740 Do you have South African citizenship?

05:35:16.920 UK citizenship.

05:35:17.840 UK citizenship.

05:35:18.840 Okay.

05:35:19.440 Since birth.

05:35:20.900 Okay.

05:35:21.600 Uh, never mind then.

05:35:22.580 Um, let's see.

05:35:26.240 Does anybody here have or has had a roster?

05:35:30.520 Roster.

05:35:31.140 Roster, like, dating multiple people at the same time?

05:35:34.780 Mm, no.

05:35:38.700 Okay.

05:35:39.700 Uh, who here would date a conservative?

05:35:43.940 As long as they're moderate, or, like, not radical.

05:35:48.080 Okay.

05:35:49.540 Hmm.

05:35:51.320 Probably depends on, like, some, like, details, I guess.

05:35:56.680 Okay.

05:35:58.260 Actually, kind of a boring question.

05:35:59.740 I'm going to skip it then.

05:36:00.620 Yeah.

05:36:00.780 Uh, would you date a guy who owns firearms?

05:36:04.600 Mm-hmm.

05:36:05.000 Mm-hmm.

05:36:07.040 Most likely not, but if I really liked a guy and he owned a gun, it wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

05:36:11.940 Like, responsible gun owner?

05:36:14.240 Again, like, likely not, but it wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

05:36:17.640 Mm-hmm.

05:36:18.720 What about you?

05:36:19.980 Uh, I would.

05:36:21.360 What about you?

05:36:22.160 I already did.

05:36:24.300 I'd love that for you.

05:36:26.240 Yeah, I would.

05:36:27.620 Mm-hmm.

05:36:28.320 Yeah, if he was safe with it, yeah.

05:36:30.780 Mm-hmm.

05:36:33.460 Mm-hmm.

05:36:41.300 Yeah.

05:36:44.900 Yes.

05:36:47.020 Okay, what about you, Bella?

05:36:48.420 Yes.

05:36:49.160 Felicity?

05:36:49.600 Yes.

05:36:50.500 Yes.

05:36:51.380 Love it.

05:36:52.700 Beautiful.

05:36:53.500 Wonder, wunderbar.

05:36:54.920 Thank you, guys.

05:36:56.040 Okay.

05:36:56.460 German.

05:36:57.480 Yes.

05:36:58.260 Uh, oh, women can't make machine gun noises.

05:37:01.760 Oh.

05:37:02.380 Make a machine gun noise.

05:37:04.180 Like a, like that?

05:37:05.620 Oh, shit, okay.

05:37:07.080 I can't, I can't.

05:37:08.220 No.

05:37:08.760 No.

05:37:08.960 Come on, try it, try it, try it.

05:37:10.040 No, trust me.

05:37:10.400 Just try it, just try it.

05:37:11.680 No.

05:37:12.360 Try it.

05:37:12.580 I don't want.

05:37:13.160 Try it.

05:37:14.080 Pure pressure.

05:37:14.920 Daniella, you got this.

05:37:16.140 No, trust me.

05:37:16.820 My voice doesn't have much, um, like, range.

05:37:20.080 You sound kind of, like, Russian.

05:37:22.620 Really?

05:37:24.120 Yes.

05:37:24.400 I've heard a lot of different things.

05:37:26.380 I don't know.

05:37:27.380 But, um, I hear it's pretty flat, so I can't.

05:37:30.120 Okay, machine gun noise?

05:37:31.080 Yes.

05:37:31.940 Make it.

05:37:32.640 Do it.

05:37:32.900 It'd be like.

05:37:34.160 Okay, pretty good?

05:37:35.160 Mm-hmm.

05:37:35.520 I used to be able to do it, but I can't do it with my tongue piercing.

05:37:38.540 Oh, you can't anymore?

05:37:39.380 No.

05:37:39.480 The tongue piercing?

05:37:40.120 What about you?

05:37:40.600 Machine gun noise?

05:37:43.540 Great.

05:37:44.080 Okay, Bella?

05:37:45.100 I love calling, baby.

05:37:46.900 Wait.

05:37:47.320 Wait, guys, guys.

05:37:47.860 No, that's not, no.

05:37:50.900 Okay, Felicity.

05:37:52.100 I won't do it until you do it.

05:37:53.380 I'll do it.

05:37:54.260 Okay, I'll wait.

05:37:54.680 You go first.

05:37:55.300 I'll wait.

05:37:55.520 No, you go first.

05:37:56.860 Nothing.

05:37:57.420 I need inspo.

05:38:00.220 Wait.

05:38:00.920 Machine gun noise?

05:38:01.980 I don't know if that's going to sound like a machine gun, but.

05:38:04.620 That's pretty good.

05:38:06.400 Wait, now I'm getting really shy.

05:38:08.200 I know.

05:38:09.380 I think you did this before.

05:38:10.920 You made all of us do it.

05:38:12.180 Come on.

05:38:12.800 Come on.

05:38:13.520 I think mine was the best.

05:38:15.560 I mean, I do it a little differently.

05:38:16.740 It's like.

05:38:17.860 Oh, okay.

05:38:19.380 Like that.

05:38:20.000 I do it a little differently.

05:38:20.860 I do it a little differently.

05:38:21.720 Okay.

05:38:22.600 Aw.

05:38:23.640 Sorry.

05:38:24.140 Aw.

05:38:24.780 Oh, are you going to do it?

05:38:25.860 No.

05:38:26.200 Wait, was my machine gun, was it kind of a name?

05:38:28.120 No, you do it.

05:38:28.640 That was accurate.

05:38:29.380 You were shy about it.

05:38:29.980 Oh, okay.

05:38:30.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:38:30.720 It's like medieval gaming sound, machine gun.

05:38:34.140 It's not like Call of Duty sound, if that makes sense.

05:38:37.100 The one you just made.

05:38:38.080 Yeah.

05:38:38.620 So true.

05:38:39.560 On point.

05:38:40.920 Okay.

05:38:41.600 I'm trying to think here.

05:38:43.420 Okay, we're going to get through some of the notes.

05:38:45.060 Were you being sarcastic?

05:38:46.180 I have no idea.

05:38:47.960 I don't even know at this point.

05:38:50.220 Sometimes shit just comes out of my mouth.

05:38:52.060 I'm like, did I just say that?

05:38:53.980 Word.

05:38:54.860 Okay, hold on.

05:38:56.640 Okay.

05:38:57.880 No.

05:38:58.740 Oh, yeah.

05:38:59.180 Felicity, what the fuck?

05:39:01.780 Okay, not bad.

05:39:02.640 Good job.

05:39:04.960 Katie.

05:39:06.220 That's you.

05:39:06.940 Yeah.

05:39:07.380 Katie.

05:39:08.200 You said the fact that you've dated two guys before your husband, each for about seven

05:39:11.600 to eight years, but being as naive and dependent as you were, those relationships should have

05:39:15.860 ended about two years in.

05:39:18.000 Why is that?

05:39:18.880 Were they like cheating on you?

05:39:19.800 Can you just scoot into the table just a bit?

05:39:22.480 Is she okay?

05:39:23.000 Her eyes were closed.

05:39:26.460 Her eyes were caught on the mic.

05:39:27.900 Oh.

05:39:29.280 Go ahead, Katie.

05:39:30.160 Go ahead.

05:39:30.980 I think they should have ended earlier just because we weren't compatible.

05:39:35.560 I'll just talk about my last relationship.

05:39:38.380 Um, I feel like I did a lot for that relationship, but I don't think he really contributed as

05:39:44.180 much as he could have, but I really just didn't have the confidence to walk away.

05:39:48.440 Like he did try to break up with me many times, but yeah, I was there ever reasons given

05:39:54.480 like, were you being annoying or what?

05:39:57.640 I'd probably do him.

05:39:59.180 He, well, he, there was a lot of things that he felt like he needed from me.

05:40:03.680 Like one thing, it's going to sound stupid, but just like, you know, he wanted me to like

05:40:07.800 dress up more, for example, you know, I was very more modest.

05:40:12.700 I see.

05:40:13.480 Okay.

05:40:13.700 That was one thing we would argue about a lot.

05:40:15.860 I see.

05:40:16.480 Oh, okay.

05:40:17.200 Interesting.

05:40:17.800 Usually you hear a little bit the reverse, but okay.

05:40:20.880 Uh, we have, let's see.

05:40:25.860 Uh, okay.

05:40:29.280 Uh, for you, how do you pronounce it?

05:40:31.600 Is one a, yeah.

05:40:32.660 Did I say that?

05:40:33.680 Uh, in your Instagram, you describe yourself as MK ultra rat.

05:40:38.680 Oh, you actually looked at my Instagram.

05:40:40.700 I'm surprised.

05:40:42.140 Why?

05:40:43.640 Why are you looking at me that way?

05:40:45.420 What the fuck?

05:40:46.740 I'm sorry.

05:40:47.860 Uh.

05:40:48.260 I've been studying MK ultra since I was a kid.

05:40:51.380 And so I like.

05:40:52.180 Oh boy.

05:40:53.700 My head blew up.

05:40:55.000 Are you an MK ultra rat?

05:40:57.200 What does that mean?

05:40:57.960 Um, that was such a joke because I feel like I'm a targeted individual.

05:41:02.020 You're, I'm sorry, a what?

05:41:03.120 That was just a joke because I felt like I was a target individual.

05:41:07.240 So I just put that in there.

05:41:08.980 By MK ultra?

05:41:10.680 Yeah.

05:41:11.120 The government brainwashing program.

05:41:13.720 Okay.

05:41:14.340 Um, you also, yeah.

05:41:16.200 Targeted individual.

05:41:17.240 You call yourself a separate entity.

05:41:18.860 What does that mean?

05:41:20.920 That I'm like no other being.

05:41:24.400 Oh, okay.

05:41:25.020 I see.

05:41:25.340 Yeah.

05:41:25.860 Like, why do you think my name's Divina Seduce?

05:41:28.700 It literally means divine God in Latin.

05:41:32.500 Hmm.

05:41:33.620 I love that for you.

05:41:35.200 Thank you.

05:41:36.100 That is dope.

05:41:37.860 Okay.

05:41:38.260 Uh, let's see.

05:41:38.980 We have Bella.

05:41:40.200 Uh, okay.

05:41:42.860 We already talked about like past relationships having lasted over a month.

05:41:46.640 Uh, you said you met your current boyfriend.

05:41:49.380 He was your subleaser.

05:41:50.960 Oh shit.

05:41:51.680 Landlord.

05:41:52.940 Landlord privileges.

05:41:54.260 After five days of talking, he asked you to be the girl, his girlfriend.

05:41:58.820 Yeah.

05:41:59.640 That was like the craziest.

05:42:01.180 Yeah.

05:42:01.320 Current guy.

05:42:02.220 Okay.

05:42:02.580 Cause I was like very quick.

05:42:03.200 So were you guys like living together or he, how was that working?

05:42:06.140 Oh no.

05:42:06.320 Like literally cause I'm from Sacramento.

05:42:08.580 So it was like the sublease I found.

05:42:10.320 Cause I'm not gonna write for like the place.

05:42:14.240 All right.

05:42:14.920 Yeah.

05:42:15.340 So like, were you still in town or did you like sublease it?

05:42:19.040 You guys met?

05:42:19.600 No, I was like, I didn't know.

05:42:21.000 Like I wasn't here.

05:42:22.920 So you got, but you met in person at one point, right?

05:42:25.820 When we did the switch off.

05:42:27.800 Oh wait.

05:42:28.500 So he had already been subleasing your spot.

05:42:31.060 And then he's like, here's your place.

05:42:33.200 Well like, and then, yeah, kind of like that.

05:42:35.280 Cause I would come see the place just cause of the school and stuff, but I mean, it's

05:42:39.340 a house with a room, so.

05:42:41.180 Okay.

05:42:42.200 And wow.

05:42:43.300 Hopefully he's not watching this.

05:42:45.100 Romantic.

05:42:46.000 I know.

05:42:46.800 You said double standards.

05:42:48.180 You wanted to talk about double standards.

05:42:50.180 I feel like we already talked about it.

05:42:52.000 Like with the whole.

05:42:52.780 Yeah, sure.

05:42:53.200 Is there anything that you wanted to add though?

05:42:56.060 I feel like men get away with a lot more things when it comes to being slut shamed than

05:43:02.580 woman.

05:43:03.180 I mean, I feel like a woman get the, um, and the bad end of the stick on that.

05:43:09.140 But I feel like that's pretty, not really a hot take.

05:43:11.780 I feel like everyone knows that.

05:43:13.980 Or if you think differently than please.

05:43:16.300 I, well, I think men have a more invested interest in promiscute and like men care more about

05:43:22.620 it.

05:43:23.360 Like they have a greater preference towards.

05:43:26.460 Right.

05:43:27.300 But I feel like men get away with it when, if they do the same action.

05:43:31.240 Okay.

05:43:31.540 So basically like if a man sleeps with a bunch of women, he's kind of, um, he's not shamed

05:43:37.440 as much as a woman who sleeps with a bunch of men.

05:43:38.860 I feel like he gets praised or like people like find it like, Oh, it's okay.

05:43:41.760 He's like, uh, I mean, my personal take is I don't think promiscuity is good in men or

05:43:46.380 women.

05:43:47.220 Uh, I think we should move away from like hookup culture, promiscuity.

05:43:50.340 These things are bad on the individual level.

05:43:52.900 And also I think the societal level, it's a bad way to structure the dynamics and interactions

05:43:58.180 between men and women.

05:43:59.880 Uh, but I mean, I can think of some justifications.

05:44:03.380 I think one women, their own preferences seem to care.

05:44:09.120 Generally speaking, women care far less about male promiscuity.

05:44:13.020 So women don't really employ a mechanism to like control or police male promiscuity through

05:44:20.480 shame.

05:44:20.880 Um, I mean, there's like, you know, because probably cause they don't feel or whatever,

05:44:26.140 but yeah, but I feel like that's just because they've, we've all, not all experienced it,

05:44:32.500 but majority have experienced it when we shouldn't have.

05:44:35.640 And they probably don't want to do that to guys because you know how it feels.

05:44:39.380 Well, I just think that women are far more forgiving of it.

05:44:42.800 And also I think that there's just like, in terms of what men and women value differently,

05:44:48.000 men do value, you guys might object to this term, but men tend to value purity.

05:44:52.800 This isn't just sexual purity.

05:44:54.440 Men value, uh, purity.

05:44:56.960 Women seem to care less than men do about this.

05:45:00.660 And, um,

05:45:01.720 We are in Isla Vista though.

05:45:05.440 Sure.

05:45:06.140 Yeah.

05:45:06.580 There's obviously differences.

05:45:07.840 This isn't the case for everybody.

05:45:09.140 I would just, I would also just add that, um,

05:45:12.400 Like a guy who's otherwise really attractive,

05:45:18.960 a guy who's really attractive, but he's, he's a playboy.

05:45:23.400 He just sleeps with a bunch of women.

05:45:25.100 He's still going to be attractive to a lot of women.

05:45:28.820 Like if you look at famous musicians, you look at famous actors,

05:45:32.420 these men have no shortage of like, they've slept typically they sleep with a lot of women.

05:45:38.320 And this doesn't, this doesn't act as a deterrence at all for women typically,

05:45:42.920 because they're either good looks or their status or whatever it is supersedes that component.

05:45:52.240 But if a woman is a superstar or whatever, like a famous musician, whatever, whatever,

05:45:57.360 there'd be a greater proportion of men.

05:45:59.600 If, if it was known that she like got around, slept with a bunch of people,

05:46:03.320 like a much smaller proportion of men would be willing to tolerate, uh, that sort of thing.

05:46:09.880 And there's just differences between men and women.

05:46:12.020 Also, I would say it's really, it's typically, uh,

05:46:14.460 Why do you think that is?

05:46:16.580 Well, I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons, but I would just add that

05:46:19.060 it's really easy for a woman to be a slut.

05:46:23.020 It's pretty hard for a guy to be a slut.

05:46:26.400 And just like, and I could frame it a little differently.

05:46:30.940 Only if you have objections there, more women can be sluts than men can be sluts.

05:46:35.440 No.

05:46:36.140 So pretty much any woman, regardless of her looks, like she could be unattractive.

05:46:42.720 We'll just say that.

05:46:43.300 What's your definition of a slut though?

05:46:44.500 Is that like.

05:46:45.100 Somebody who sleeps with a lot of men.

05:46:46.640 Okay.

05:46:47.260 That's a lot to you.

05:46:48.860 Oh, I mean, it varies.

05:46:50.220 Um, I'll save, I'll give you my answer a little later on in the conversation though,

05:46:53.740 just cause I don't want to preempt it.

05:46:55.840 But, uh, almost any woman, if she wanted to, could be a slut.

05:46:59.840 Um, she might not want to, but she could, she has the capability.

05:47:05.220 Any woman has the capability of being a slut regard, honestly, regardless of her looks,

05:47:10.540 like if she wants dick, she can get dick.

05:47:13.740 However, I think the threshold for men to just easily get sex is a bit higher.

05:47:20.160 And I'm not saying that this is kind of an indictment of men that, uh, men will just throw

05:47:29.780 away their standards for looks, even just to get casual sex.

05:47:33.120 And that's what I'm saying.

05:47:34.000 Like they'll pay for puss.

05:47:36.000 And I say that if they're not even getting it like that.

05:47:39.040 So like, they're always going to be able to be a hoe no matter what.

05:47:42.860 But I guess to my point is the reason that some men view it as like, it takes some degree

05:47:50.020 of skill as a guy to just sleep with a bunch of women.

05:47:54.180 Not really.

05:47:55.420 Yeah.

05:47:55.760 It takes a bit of skill or you have to be bringing either skill game.

05:48:00.520 Women don't need game to show up.

05:48:02.760 You can get laid, but men can also bring it.

05:48:05.980 Like if the guy's really obscenely good looking or he has status, like he's a famous musician,

05:48:10.560 actor, whatever.

05:48:11.380 Oh, like skill like that?

05:48:12.380 Well, when I say skill, like could be game.

05:48:14.840 Like he's got, that would translate also to his.

05:48:18.120 Yeah.

05:48:18.420 I just think it's just so much more impactful when a girl has sex versus when a guy has

05:48:24.300 sex.

05:48:24.600 I don't know why.

05:48:25.400 I'm not sure what that means.

05:48:26.960 I just feel like maybe, maybe there's sometimes more feelings involved with the woman because

05:48:31.540 of like science reasons.

05:48:33.380 There's more chemicals released.

05:48:36.700 Sure.

05:48:37.040 I just, I just feel like guys are more capable of doing it because they're able to do it

05:48:42.060 more heartlessly.

05:48:43.760 Yeah.

05:48:44.240 I think there's probably a fair argument there.

05:48:46.220 Women release like, I don't know, the specific hormone or something when they have sex that

05:48:50.920 men either don't or not have more testosterone or whatever.

05:48:57.060 So they're capable of having men have a higher sex drive.

05:48:59.800 Yeah.

05:49:00.100 So they're capable of generally speaking, not to say there's definitely women who have higher

05:49:03.860 sex drive than some men.

05:49:05.180 Yeah, for sure.

05:49:05.980 For sure.

05:49:06.840 Yeah.

05:49:06.960 But yes, men have a stronger sex drive than women due to testosterone.

05:49:10.860 So, but, uh, even then though, um, again, I don't think we should like, it's, we should

05:49:16.640 big up men who just sleep with a bunch of women, but I can understand it.

05:49:21.380 Like men can deem it actually, both genders can deem it more impressive for a man to sleep

05:49:27.200 around because that would point to something about him that he's doing or that he, some

05:49:37.000 trait he has.

05:49:37.860 And we know this just simply by the fact that majority of men just can't be sluts.

05:49:43.520 Most men, like every single girl at this table, every single, every single girl at this table,

05:49:49.660 if she was so inclined, you guys could shit tonight.

05:49:53.020 Even you could hop on Tinder, get some last minute fun tonight.

05:49:58.240 Most men, 90, 97%, most women are not willing to just quickly do something like that.

05:50:07.280 Like there's a bit more of a process typically, not all the time, but yeah, but they have more

05:50:12.380 options.

05:50:13.280 Like every single one of y'all could get laid tonight.

05:50:16.220 If you wanted to me, shit.

05:50:22.020 Fine.

05:50:22.520 Why are you so hard on yourself?

05:50:24.380 Like said that, like waiting for us to be like, no, no, I don't, don't, no, don't say

05:50:28.960 no.

05:50:29.300 No, you looked around, you looked around.

05:50:30.940 I see that tactic.

05:50:32.520 Not the implication.

05:50:34.000 Not the implication.

05:50:36.580 Um, I mean, we can test this out super easily.

05:50:39.880 Like the, the ease with which men and women can get laid, um, anybody here down to hook

05:50:48.440 up and be my girlfriend ever after the show going around the table, I feel like this is

05:50:57.180 directed to thinking about it.

05:50:59.780 I don't do, I don't do like casual hookup culture.

05:51:02.460 I know.

05:51:02.700 I'm, I only do relationships.

05:51:06.140 After this.

05:51:07.020 It's an e-date.

05:51:08.700 Wait, are we third really?

05:51:12.140 Do we need to leave?

05:51:13.560 No.

05:51:14.420 No comment.

05:51:15.700 Well, some of y'all, I feel like it may be if you're in relationships, I mean, you don't

05:51:18.500 have to answer, but why don't, huh?

05:51:21.160 No, I understand.

05:51:26.160 Politely.

05:51:26.980 Okay.

05:51:27.400 Whatever.

05:51:28.120 I'm not, that was an actual, a genuine proposition, by the way, but this idea of like, that wasn't

05:51:33.200 a proposition.

05:51:33.680 It sounded like you wanted to know specific answers.

05:51:36.900 You didn't go around for the whole table.

05:51:38.300 The point is.

05:51:39.280 You got a yes.

05:51:41.120 Wait, wait, what?

05:51:41.880 Who said yes?

05:51:43.020 What about me?

05:51:44.300 You said yes.

05:51:45.540 No, I didn't.

05:51:46.320 What?

05:51:46.500 No, I didn't.

05:51:47.160 I said I don't do, but that wasn't a no.

05:51:51.200 I said I don't do casual hookup culture with anyone.

05:51:53.720 Yeah.

05:51:54.000 You said you don't do hookup culture.

05:51:55.460 He said me neither.

05:51:56.680 And you're like, that's perfect.

05:51:58.440 I didn't say that's perfect.

05:51:59.860 I mean, there's a ring here, but, um, uh, what was I saying?

05:52:04.080 No, but this idea, like you women, you could just offer some, you could offer it.

05:52:11.520 You offered on the silver platter guys, you go out to Ivy, whatever, go up to a guy.

05:52:17.280 Hey, do you want to hook up?

05:52:18.700 You could, if you wanted to, it'd be, don't do it.

05:52:21.700 But you could sleep with 10 dudes in the night, 10 guys in the night.

05:52:25.380 Oh, don't do that.

05:52:26.300 Like physically, I don't know how that would, that's like a lot.

05:52:28.940 That's a lot.

05:52:29.820 Bonnie blue did more than that.

05:52:31.860 Don't be, don't be Bonnie.

05:52:33.460 Don't be Bonnie blue.

05:52:34.880 Um, I think it is unfortunately, but yeah, go ahead.

05:52:39.100 Oh, I thought you were going to ask something.

05:52:40.600 No.

05:52:41.020 No.

05:52:41.160 Okay.

05:52:41.680 Thanks.

05:52:42.040 Uh, Cody, she left.

05:52:43.800 So, okay.

05:52:44.460 Whatever.

05:52:45.620 Um, let's see.

05:52:48.200 We have, oh, we have some chats here.

05:52:51.460 I'm going to let these come through then.

05:52:52.400 Vector donated $200.

05:52:57.100 Chair one, is the claim of feminism that men are just as capable as men in general?

05:53:02.140 If so, why is feminism necessary?

05:53:05.140 Why is it necessary to advertise?

05:53:07.560 Hey, I'm a woman.

05:53:08.980 I'm just as capable as men.

05:53:11.500 I think my understanding and belief when it comes to feminism is like men and women have inherent differences.

05:53:17.360 Men are better at certain things.

05:53:19.000 Women are better at certain things.

05:53:20.280 But, like, my belief when it comes to feminism.

05:53:23.400 Yep.

05:53:24.300 Pastey George donated $200.

05:53:27.480 A lot of Western women, especially those infected with feminism, even the ugly ones, can easily get sex more so than the average man.

05:53:36.840 Only the top tier guys can get puss anytime they want.

05:53:40.280 Yeah, that's true.

05:53:41.900 Women can access sex a lot more easily.

05:53:44.680 But what I was saying earlier is just, like, my belief when, like, I don't, the word feminism, like, like, there's, like, radical feminism, sure.

05:53:51.700 So, like, I don't always, like, use that label.

05:53:54.140 But I just believe in women being able to pursue what they want.

05:53:57.020 Like, have agency to make the decisions they want.

05:54:00.800 Overall.

05:54:01.160 But, like, men and women have their inherent differences.

05:54:05.160 All right, we have Kira here with your notes.

05:54:11.080 You said that the craziest dating story, you were in high school, got out of a three-year relationship, rebounded a couple weeks later with your guy best friend, crazy tales.

05:54:23.160 You also dated a co-worker one time, and he cheated on you while you guys were long distance.

05:54:27.580 You only found out by going through his messages.

05:54:29.980 So that's also a pretty crazy story.

05:54:31.600 Cool.

05:54:35.620 That's it, yeah.

05:54:37.500 Thanks for narrating that.

05:54:38.880 You're welcome.

05:54:40.000 I think you said social media shapes people's views on what a relationship ought to look like.

05:54:47.600 And then you also said long distance, not worth it unless it's, like, you know it's your future husband.

05:54:53.440 You wrote here, another hot take is that you don't really like the concept of dating apps when looking for a serious relationship.

05:55:00.760 Well, I agree with that.

05:55:02.260 I agree, but I wanted to maybe parse this out a little bit.

05:55:06.360 You said when looking for a serious relationship, but have you, well, you're dating somebody now, right?

05:55:14.040 Did you use it for casual dating?

05:55:16.700 I, well, that was, I just kind of threw that out there because I think it's an interesting topic, but I don't have, I've never been on a dating app.

05:55:24.480 This is coming from, like, people in my life because I have a lot of friends who use them.

05:55:28.220 Okay.

05:55:29.160 Anybody here currently on the dating app?

05:55:30.760 Just a show of hands.

05:55:31.320 Just curious.

05:55:33.300 Okay, that's pretty good.

05:55:34.160 They're bad.

05:55:34.620 Don't do it.

05:55:35.620 Don't do it.

05:55:36.440 You're on the dating app?

05:55:37.140 Oh, my goodness.

05:55:38.260 That's crazy.

05:55:39.220 Why?

05:55:39.300 What happened?

05:55:40.540 What makes you think they're bad?

05:55:43.160 They are bad.

05:55:44.100 What?

05:55:44.860 It's too much.

05:55:45.620 Oh, my God.

05:55:46.480 Okay.

05:55:47.600 I can't even talk to you.

05:55:50.660 You said in your notes, maybe these are old, you said you got arrested for a felony.

05:55:55.380 Oh, my God.

05:55:56.100 You went to school off Molly.

05:55:57.840 You went to high school parties with your ex-alcoholic mother.

05:56:01.320 You partied with your mom?

05:56:03.020 Yeah, she was going through it.

05:56:04.560 Wait, can you scoot the mic to the edge of the table?

05:56:06.700 She was going through it.

05:56:08.040 I don't want to bring all of this up.

05:56:09.780 Okay, you don't need to talk about your mom.

05:56:11.140 You said you were in a mental hospital?

05:56:12.940 Yeah, when I was, like, 19.

05:56:14.580 Good times.

05:56:15.240 Oh, these are your old notes here.

05:56:16.460 I'll do your new notes.

05:56:17.300 So, you do do OF.

05:56:19.220 You engage in small penis humiliation.

05:56:22.860 Oh, yeah.

05:56:23.400 You humiliate men for...

05:56:25.080 So, one of my biggest clients are clients that have a humiliation in the size of their, you know.

05:56:38.380 And they like to, like, sit there and just, like, listen to you, make fun of them, and, like, yeah, call them names and all of this shit.

05:56:50.260 So, you get paid to humiliate men.

05:56:51.940 It's good money.

05:56:52.540 Like, degradation or whatever.

05:56:54.380 You, on one of your profiles, you say you're a goddess of your dreams.

05:57:00.860 Pretty, petite, 24-year-old Colombian that will drain the fuck out of you.

05:57:05.340 Yes.

05:57:05.660 When you say drain, do you mean money?

05:57:08.000 Damn, you research, research.

05:57:10.560 It's on your Instagram.

05:57:11.420 I'd look at people's stuff.

05:57:12.560 I know, but you gotta click on my Instagram.

05:57:14.100 I'd prepare for these podcasts.

05:57:15.920 When you say drain, because these fin domes.

05:57:18.300 Oh, yeah, you drain, yeah.

05:57:19.500 Drain the money.

05:57:20.040 Yeah, drain the money.

05:57:20.980 Okay.

05:57:21.380 The fin domes.

05:57:22.000 The fin domes stuff.

05:57:23.440 And then goddess is, like, they worship you.

05:57:26.560 So, they just want to, like...

05:57:27.420 Worship?

05:57:27.880 Yeah.

05:57:28.180 Okay.

05:57:29.800 Okay.

05:57:31.000 You're welcome, 101.

05:57:31.940 You said you do hardcore porn.

05:57:34.640 No, I...

05:57:35.400 No, no, no, I don't.

05:57:36.980 Did I say that?

05:57:38.660 On your little...

05:57:39.740 On your...

05:57:40.280 I think it's your OF.

05:57:41.240 It says, amateur sex with BBC.

05:57:44.880 Okay, yeah.

05:57:45.440 Amateur is not hardcore porn.

05:57:47.340 Amateur is, like, brand new.

05:57:49.620 It's, like, from...

05:57:50.860 Record from the phone.

05:57:52.240 Well, hardcore just means, like, you see the penetrative sex porn.

05:57:56.400 Oh, I thought hardcore was, like, you're in an industry, you're in, like, all of that.

05:58:00.760 That would just be...

05:58:01.320 That would be, like, mainstream porn.

05:58:03.000 But you said, okay, amateur sex with BBC can just...

05:58:06.140 Yeah, but that was when I was younger.

05:58:08.580 Do you want to share what that...

05:58:10.200 What is BBC?

05:58:10.820 BBC.

05:58:12.820 Um...

05:58:13.140 Isn't it, like, a drink?

05:58:16.300 Like, buzz ball, beat ball?

05:58:17.460 No, no, no, no.

05:58:18.420 No, I think it's at the British Broadcasting Channel.

05:58:22.080 Oh, that's...

05:58:22.600 Yeah, it is.

05:58:23.440 What is it?

05:58:24.240 Right, right, right.

05:58:24.460 What is it?

05:58:24.840 It is, it is.

05:58:26.020 What does it mean?

05:58:26.680 Tell us what it means.

05:58:30.880 Don't be mean.

05:58:32.000 I wasn't being mean.

05:58:32.940 I was also laughing.

05:58:34.100 I do not.

05:58:34.820 No, you're good, you're good.

05:58:35.680 Okay, um...

05:58:37.000 Um...

05:58:37.500 Big Black C.

05:58:40.200 Thank...

05:58:40.560 Okay.

05:58:41.880 Imaginations.

05:58:42.500 I hope you guys' imaginations work.

05:58:44.040 Okay, you also do...

05:58:44.540 You do girl on girl, threesomes.

05:58:46.520 But the...

05:58:46.960 Yeah, this was literally...

05:58:48.760 My OF is more curated to when I was younger.

05:58:52.880 That sounds crazy, but when I was, like...

05:58:55.120 I'm 24 right now.

05:58:56.560 But moving on to this, you said modern dating is not the best right now.

05:59:00.320 You don't believe most men know how to properly treat women?

05:59:03.160 Yes.

05:59:03.560 Do you think most women know how to properly treat men?

05:59:06.280 Yes.

05:59:07.860 Yes, women do.

05:59:09.160 Yes.

05:59:09.340 No, men don't.

05:59:10.440 Okay.

05:59:10.800 What does it mean to properly treat a woman?

05:59:12.840 Like, what does that mean?

05:59:14.640 Um...

05:59:15.120 All the traditional stuff we were talking about before?

05:59:16.880 Yeah, yeah, very traditional.

05:59:17.940 Yeah, yeah, like opening the door or shit like that.

05:59:20.140 Do you think you deserve traditional treatment?

05:59:21.880 Um, honestly, yeah.

05:59:23.320 Just to be clear, I don't think...

05:59:25.620 Wait, are you going to give me your...

05:59:27.300 I don't think anybody should be mistreated, but, I mean, you're not a traditional woman.

05:59:32.240 You do sex work.

05:59:33.320 Okay, yeah, I get that.

05:59:34.400 There's videos of you online.

05:59:35.800 I knew you were going to go to this.

05:59:37.760 And so, you should still be treated well by whoever you date, although I'd question if

05:59:42.460 you have a tendency to choose men who are, let's just say, not suited well for you.

05:59:48.400 Uh, but I don't know if...

05:59:51.000 But, yeah, that ex passed...

05:59:52.240 That's the ex that passed away.

05:59:54.720 Okay.

05:59:55.140 But, again, I'm just...

05:59:57.880 Like...

06:00:00.140 If you're a sex worker, can you really demand...

06:00:04.540 Like, you might still get it.

06:00:05.620 I don't just do that.

06:00:06.900 You can still get it.

06:00:07.060 I have a regular job, too.

06:00:09.120 Yeah, but there's, like, videos of you.

06:00:11.180 I know.

06:00:12.020 BBC.

06:00:12.260 BBC videos.

06:00:12.980 Kim Kardashian.

06:00:14.040 BBC.

06:00:14.540 It's on your Twitter, regrettably.

06:00:16.360 I can't believe I saw it.

06:00:16.900 It's not on my Twitter.

06:00:18.000 Oh, yeah.

06:00:18.800 Yeah.

06:00:19.320 But it's not...

06:00:21.400 You should put a disclaimer.

06:00:23.080 It's blocked.

06:00:23.880 You should put a disclaimer.

06:00:24.700 There is a disclaimer.

06:00:25.980 No.

06:00:26.000 You have to have that your thing is on Twitter.

06:00:28.960 You have to have that your AT&N plus is on.

06:00:32.080 So, that means yours is on.

06:00:34.400 So, congratulations.

06:00:35.840 I look at people's...

06:00:36.220 You watch porn on Twitter.

06:00:37.880 I look at people's social media accounts, and I was like, okay, does she have any, like,

06:00:42.400 hot dating takes on her Twitter?

06:00:43.860 It's like, oh, okay.

06:00:45.620 Okay, BBC video.

06:00:48.240 Cool.

06:00:48.620 I know you're going to go through my socials.

06:00:51.520 Okay, so, you also...

06:00:53.640 You think a lot of men use their testosterone level?

06:00:56.760 Yeah, I was talking about that.

06:00:58.400 Yeah, that.

06:00:59.100 Whatever.

06:00:59.620 Because I...

06:01:00.400 Oh, my God.

06:01:00.840 I went on Fresh and Fit.

06:01:02.180 I brought you up.

06:01:04.100 Okay.

06:01:05.080 Cool.

06:01:05.800 I guess.

06:01:06.440 I didn't know.

06:01:08.420 Didn't know what?

06:01:09.540 I just didn't know that, like, you guys were like...

06:01:11.800 I don't know.

06:01:12.320 It doesn't matter.

06:01:13.080 But, yeah, it was so weird.

06:01:15.100 Whatever.

06:01:16.000 But, no, can I tell you something?

06:01:17.320 The producer got mad at me because I went to Miami, and I didn't tell him, and now I'm

06:01:22.740 not, like, back allowed on there.

06:01:26.420 Thank you.

06:01:27.740 Thank you for sharing.

06:01:28.580 Appreciate it.

06:01:29.020 Yeah.

06:01:29.100 I'm sorry.

06:01:29.500 I hit a nerve.

06:01:31.500 Don't make me do it, Brian.

06:01:40.880 No, I'm not.

06:01:41.800 Excuse me.

06:01:42.340 We're not going to do that, but...

06:01:44.780 Oh, my gosh.

06:01:48.380 She's so peaceful.

06:01:49.100 I'll scream on the count of three.

06:01:51.180 This is literally old.

06:01:53.020 What the fuck?

06:01:54.140 What is it?

06:01:54.540 By the way, for the other women here who are sober, this is not the normal, usual...

06:02:02.040 Oh, hi.

06:02:03.160 Not the normal, you know, people are typically not passing out on the whatever podcast, but

06:02:07.860 just, you know, a little interesting panel tonight.

06:02:10.960 Okay.

06:02:11.520 Let's see if there are any other notes.

06:02:14.620 We have...

06:02:15.840 Let's see.

06:02:17.620 There's more from you, but...

06:02:20.720 Let's see.

06:02:23.420 Yeah, you really...

06:02:24.980 Let's see.

06:02:30.060 Did her...

06:02:31.980 Sorry, one sec, guys.

06:02:32.820 While I'm just letting these come through, Cody not here.

06:02:35.760 Did Bella's notes, Katie's notes, Daniella's notes.

06:02:41.220 Uh...

06:02:42.020 Cure's notes.

06:02:44.880 I mean, there's mostly just you.

06:02:45.960 What we're going to do, honestly, guys, we're going to...

06:02:49.100 We're going to do a roast session.

06:02:53.000 So...

06:02:53.440 $69 TTS, if you guys want to get a roast in.

06:02:56.740 $69 TTS.

06:02:58.260 If you guys want to get a roast in, we're going to do that.

06:03:02.380 And then try to wrap here pretty soon.

06:03:09.180 So, one sec, guys.

06:03:10.660 Y'all got energy drinks?

06:03:13.820 Yes.

06:03:14.340 We do.

06:03:14.920 Do you want one?

06:03:15.580 We do have...

06:03:16.660 I mean, it's tail end of the show.

06:03:19.000 I should have asked one earlier.

06:03:20.600 So, yeah.

06:03:23.320 Uno Memento.

06:03:24.860 Por favor.

06:03:26.700 All right, guys.

06:03:27.200 TTS 69, if you want to get it in.

06:03:29.440 One sec.

06:03:30.380 Okay.

06:03:31.260 Any fun?

06:03:31.920 Any, like, thoughts from any of the panelists?

06:03:33.660 Any topic that you want to hit on tonight that maybe we didn't?

06:03:37.180 Any thoughts from anybody?

06:03:41.840 Stop saying I'm intoxicated because I don't want to talk if you keep saying that.

06:03:46.820 Yeah.

06:03:49.540 Especially if I'm joking.

06:03:50.980 Well, I don't know.

06:03:52.020 For me, at least.

06:03:53.180 Mm-hmm.

06:04:00.420 Nothing?

06:04:01.700 Shawna?

06:04:02.680 Shawna?

06:04:03.100 Shawna.

06:04:03.900 Shawna.

06:04:04.520 I'm sorry.

06:04:06.820 What?

06:04:07.300 Final, final, final thing.

06:04:11.720 Any topics you wanted to hit on?

06:04:13.440 Thank you for having me on here.

06:04:15.340 We're not wrapping yet, by the way, but.

06:04:17.860 Final, nobody?

06:04:19.440 Okay, then I'll just, hold on.

06:04:21.180 I need to adjust the things.

06:04:24.120 Hold on.

06:04:28.340 Does anybody here think that...

06:04:30.300 Can women be sexist towards men, starting with you?

06:04:43.940 I mean, not like...

06:04:45.300 Oh, heck yeah, thanks.

06:04:48.920 Sure?

06:04:50.140 Okay.

06:04:51.120 Yeah.

06:04:52.420 Yes?

06:04:52.960 Okay, what do you think?

06:04:53.620 Can women be sexist towards men?

06:04:55.180 Yeah.

06:04:56.020 Okay.

06:04:57.640 Yes.

06:04:58.040 Okay.

06:05:01.400 Yes.

06:05:03.400 Yes.

06:05:07.880 Oh, it's my turn.

06:05:11.480 I came...

06:05:12.720 Yes.

06:05:15.620 All right.

06:05:15.980 How about this?

06:05:17.040 Do you...

06:05:17.720 I'll just move on, then.

06:05:21.880 Do women have equal rights to men in the USA?

06:05:26.060 Just because we were talking about feminism before, I feel like.

06:05:28.040 Like, it's interesting.

06:05:31.060 Starting with you.

06:05:32.040 Sorry, what was the question?

06:05:32.940 I was reading that.

06:05:33.380 Oh, do women have equal rights to men in the USA?

06:05:37.400 Like, on an institutional legal level, yes.

06:05:41.100 Okay.

06:05:41.520 On some other level, no?

06:05:42.700 Like, societally, some people have their, like, prejudices and judgments towards women.

06:05:47.260 But...

06:05:47.460 Well, this would exist also...

06:05:49.400 We were talking about rights, so...

06:05:50.820 Right, but that would exist towards men, too.

06:05:52.720 Sure, yeah.

06:05:53.480 What do you think?

06:05:54.560 For the most part, I guess.

06:05:56.320 Do women have equal rights to men?

06:05:58.880 Well, don't...

06:06:00.080 They still get paid less some places or some jobs, or I don't know.

06:06:08.240 I mean, there is some debate over the wage gap.

06:06:10.240 I personally...

06:06:11.280 Everything I've looked into, the wage gap doesn't actually exist.

06:06:13.980 And I...

06:06:16.740 We won't linger on the wage gap long, but my argument would be simply this.

06:06:20.180 If...

06:06:20.540 Well, I have a couple of different arguments.

06:06:22.160 If you control for all the different variables...

06:06:24.740 So, the wage gap that's often cited, women make 83 cents to the dollar that the man makes.

06:06:30.680 That doesn't...

06:06:31.780 Typically, when you're going to present a statistic, you want to control for variables.

06:06:36.160 So, that statistic that's presented, it doesn't account for the fact that men and women have different jobs.

06:06:41.680 Men work more hours.

06:06:42.820 Men are more likely to relocate.

06:06:44.660 Men are more likely to work overtime.

06:06:46.200 Men are more likely to work dangerous, hazardous, dirty jobs, which tend to be well compensated or can be well compensated.

06:06:55.100 It doesn't take into account the types of different fields that men are willing to go in.

06:07:00.860 Interest, this sort of thing.

06:07:02.160 Seniority, this sort of thing.

06:07:04.020 So, men, for example, just the most obvious one, men just work more hours than women.

06:07:07.820 So, even comparing for full-time workers, men work more hours.

06:07:13.960 But my two arguments...

06:07:15.500 It's a dating podcast.

06:07:16.460 I'll relate it to dating.

06:07:17.280 What's interesting is if 30%, 40%, 50% of women want men to pay for first dates, and then perhaps a smaller proportion want men to be providers,

06:07:27.460 and there's not a reciprocal pressure that exists on women to pay for dates, to be providers, this would create a massive mating pressure, social pressure, that's going one direction to men that doesn't really ever go in the reverse.

06:07:48.640 So, if women, by their own behavior and their own conduct, say, men should pay for me, then I would say that men are going to be more just...

06:08:03.640 Men are very motivated by wanting to have romantic prospects with women, and they're also...

06:08:09.860 I mean, on a lower base level, they want to have sex.

06:08:13.920 And if it's like, can't have sex, or can't get girlfriend, or can't get relationship because I can't afford to pay for the first date, that's massive motivation that men experience that...

06:08:29.480 Hold on.

06:08:30.240 Stop, stop, stop back there.

06:08:31.700 Stop back there.

06:08:32.420 Stop, stop.

06:08:33.240 Mary, stop.

06:08:33.920 I'm sitting.

06:08:35.100 Oh, I don't know what there is.

06:08:36.820 Okay.

06:08:37.420 Never mind then.

06:08:38.060 I don't know if there was some other communication going on or whatever.

06:08:40.780 I was just confused because you were...

06:08:44.020 She just kind of pointed this direction.

06:08:45.000 I wasn't sure why.

06:08:46.920 Oh, okay.

06:08:47.460 Never mind.

06:08:47.900 It's not a big thing.

06:08:50.720 It would occur to me that women's own traditional gender expectations of men would actually be what causes the wage gap.

06:09:00.460 Men are more motivated to make money than women are.

06:09:05.600 Simply put.

06:09:06.280 But...

06:09:06.680 Like, I realize, as a man, that women assess me.

06:09:15.540 I know, look, some of you in college, you probably don't give a...

06:09:17.960 Those of you in college probably don't care all that much about money.

06:09:20.660 But once you get into your mid-20s...

06:09:22.480 Now's the time to care.

06:09:23.920 Student debt.

06:09:24.760 It is literally the time to care.

06:09:26.540 Like, you're looking for jobs.

06:09:28.420 No, no, but what I...

06:09:30.240 What I mean by that is in terms of, like, the guys you're looking to date, most college guys are not...

06:09:35.420 Maybe they don't have a job.

06:09:37.400 Like, you're not really looking to a guy in college to be a provider, right?

06:09:43.040 So...

06:09:43.560 But as you do get older, 20s, mid-20s, late-20s, 30s, it becomes more part of the calculus.

06:09:52.620 So, women's own dating preferences, I think, would...

06:09:58.280 And by the way, there is no wage gap, but if it did exist, it would be explained away by women's own gender expectations of men.

06:10:05.220 I think it also has to do with the fact that men are physically more capable to work longer hours, especially when you look at jobs that require, like, physical labor, like, construction work, and all that kind of thing.

06:10:16.660 Well, yeah, and men are just physically stronger than women.

06:10:18.840 Which does help you and give you an advantage when it comes to working longer hours.

06:10:23.380 But that's not me asserting that there is a wage gap.

06:10:25.540 Well, yeah, but I mean, most...

06:10:26.740 I would argue a lot of high...

06:10:28.980 I mean, sure.

06:10:29.840 Oh, Canute.

06:10:30.840 Canute?

06:10:31.780 He's in the chat, I think.

06:10:33.140 I don't know if that's the same guy.

06:10:34.620 What's up, man?

06:10:35.060 Thank you for the chat.

06:10:38.700 I mean, a lot of high-paying jobs now are not typically...

06:10:42.800 They can be, but most high-paying jobs are actually not exclusively of a physical nature.

06:10:49.600 But I'd say a majority of jobs that exist are not high-paying, right?

06:10:54.000 Sure, yeah.

06:10:55.740 And I feel like the majority of jobs, like, when you look at, like, jobs that don't pay as well, require some kind of, like, physical labor or ability compared to, like...

06:11:05.720 The higher-paying the job, like, generally, it can be actually, like, more chill and, like, laid-back than having to, like, use, like, physical labor.

06:11:14.040 Because that's not, like, an intellectual skill that requires, like, a degree and things like that.

06:11:18.760 Sure, yeah.

06:11:19.660 But the wage gap stuff isn't super interesting for me.

06:11:23.200 Let's see.

06:11:23.740 Hold on.

06:11:24.000 Let me see if they're...

06:11:24.840 I need to check the chats here.

06:11:27.720 Roast session, guys.

06:11:28.780 Roast session.

06:11:29.400 Then we're going to get this wrapped up.

06:11:32.500 Hold on.

06:11:32.920 Let me make sure.

06:11:33.980 Love me.

06:11:34.620 Roast session.

06:11:35.860 Roast.

06:11:36.340 Roast away, boys.

06:11:37.240 Hold on.

06:11:37.560 I need to fix this.

06:11:42.700 Oh, you know what we forgot to do?

06:11:44.760 There's another question I wanted to ask.

06:11:49.680 Is it wrong for a man to care about a woman's past?

06:11:52.360 So, like, body count?

06:11:54.660 No.

06:11:55.900 No.

06:11:56.980 No.

06:11:58.020 No.

06:12:00.500 Yes, I know.

06:12:02.320 Yes, I know.

06:12:02.960 What do you think?

06:12:04.000 No.

06:12:05.200 No, I care about a man's past.

06:12:07.320 What do you think?

06:12:07.960 No.

06:12:09.880 Okay, the question we always ask, what's your body count?

06:12:13.120 Zero.

06:12:13.760 Zero?

06:12:14.980 I think she was zero, too.

06:12:16.180 Five.

06:12:16.820 Five?

06:12:17.920 Do I have to answer that?

06:12:19.880 Yes.

06:12:20.720 I have to.

06:12:21.280 You have to.

06:12:23.260 We're homies, right?

06:12:24.720 Homies.

06:12:25.240 Are you my homie?

06:12:26.080 That's a strong term.

06:12:27.880 This is a first time meeting.

06:12:29.120 I know.

06:12:29.540 I already feel the homies.

06:12:30.980 Oh, really?

06:12:31.760 Okay.

06:12:31.820 Yeah, we're homies.

06:12:32.800 Maybe, maybe.

06:12:33.620 We're BFFs.

06:12:35.160 BFFs?

06:12:35.560 Yes.

06:12:36.780 Go ahead.

06:12:37.180 I think it's stronger than homies.

06:12:37.660 Shoot it out.

06:12:38.300 Shoot it out.

06:12:38.940 I'll give you a range.

06:12:39.920 It's like five.

06:12:39.940 Range is fair.

06:12:41.300 Okay, what about you?

06:12:42.640 Kira?

06:12:43.660 Less than five.

06:12:44.760 Okay.

06:12:45.060 What about you?

06:12:46.100 Brian, will you forgive me after all of this?

06:12:53.420 Revealing the body count would do you favors, I guess.

06:12:56.040 Sure.

06:12:56.140 Triple digits.

06:12:57.080 How about that?

06:12:58.260 Okay.

06:12:59.500 Do you have a sense like 100, 200, 300?

06:13:03.100 Could possibly be more, but I'm an expositionist, so.

06:13:07.960 You like to go to expos?

06:13:10.080 No.

06:13:10.800 I'm an expositionist.

06:13:13.000 Exhibitionist?

06:13:13.520 Yeah.

06:13:14.560 What is that?

06:13:16.060 She'd.

06:13:16.820 I like to be naked.

06:13:19.220 Like where?

06:13:20.240 Like in public?

06:13:21.100 Literally anywhere.

06:13:21.860 Just be.

06:13:22.420 Yeah.

06:13:22.520 Because honestly, yeah.

06:13:23.980 It's a form of beating.

06:13:25.640 Okay.

06:13:26.420 But do you think it's potentially quad digits or no?

06:13:30.960 Quad digits?

06:13:32.000 Over a thousand.

06:13:33.160 No, no.

06:13:34.020 Not over a thousand.

06:13:35.200 But so when you say triple digits, is it closer to 100?

06:13:38.620 Closer to 900?

06:13:39.800 Like where?

06:13:40.640 500?

06:13:41.260 Where do you think it falls?

06:13:42.480 Between like.

06:13:43.620 Ballpark.

06:13:43.980 I would say between 400, and there's some people that I don't want to remember being

06:13:52.200 intimate with, but yeah.

06:13:55.340 All right.

06:13:56.000 400.

06:13:56.820 All right.

06:13:58.080 Good times.

06:13:59.040 Good times.

06:13:59.640 Not too proud, but I mean, hey.

06:14:01.480 Bellington.

06:14:01.920 Being honest.

06:14:02.760 Bellington.

06:14:03.360 Bellington.

06:14:04.140 Yeah, that's.

06:14:05.860 One.

06:14:06.940 One.

06:14:07.600 Okay.

06:14:08.500 One.

06:14:09.120 Felicity.

06:14:10.540 Three.

06:14:11.700 Okay.

06:14:12.060 And those are, I guess, all your boyfriends.

06:14:13.480 Okay, cool.

06:14:14.600 There it is.

06:14:16.060 There's that.

06:14:16.800 Hold on.

06:14:17.280 Where's the?

06:14:18.240 One sec.

06:14:18.700 Ah, shit.

06:14:19.860 We have some roasts coming through, guys.

06:14:22.120 Uh-oh.

06:14:23.820 Careful.

06:14:24.920 Okay.

06:14:25.460 Let's see here.

06:14:26.440 Did this get fixed?

06:14:27.340 There we go.

06:14:31.300 Your XD donated $69.

06:14:33.500 What's that?

06:14:34.600 Brian Chair One clearly has a crush on you.

06:14:37.480 Yes.

06:14:37.880 Why you got a hate on her eyebrows, brother?

06:14:40.200 I wasn't hating on her eyebrows.

06:14:41.460 Oh, my God.

06:14:41.920 I asked a question.

06:14:42.700 Brian Browns when she was younger.

06:14:44.660 I think she's into you arguing politics.

06:14:48.900 Okay.

06:14:49.620 Uh, thank you, Cha.

06:14:50.860 Thank you.

06:14:52.300 Um, thank you for the message.

06:14:54.580 I think they got past that now.

06:14:55.980 They made up.

06:14:56.740 Brian needs to go to the dark side.

06:14:59.020 Yeah, I agree.

06:15:00.440 I don't have this $69.

06:15:02.440 Um, it's, it's fine.

06:15:04.400 I don't have a crush on Brian.

06:15:05.840 Okay, Felicity, you fucking baiter.

06:15:10.540 I'm just, I'm just kidding.

06:15:11.040 You bait, you're baiting.

06:15:12.440 Um, okay.

06:15:13.020 I'm just messing with you guys.

06:15:13.880 It is documented.

06:15:15.940 And we have this one.

06:15:18.440 Pasty George donated $70.

06:15:20.580 It is a documented fact that women take more sick days than men, including mental health leave.

06:15:27.900 Meanwhile, men only take sick days if they are either bedridden with a serious illness or near death.

06:15:33.640 That is, that is another point.

06:15:37.240 Women do take more, uh, sick days, ask for more time off.

06:15:43.160 Uh.

06:15:43.820 I mean, if you take into account that we have periods and they're very brutal, like, I feel like we should at least have a day off for that.

06:15:52.340 But if you're, like, a, a ruthless fucking capitalist, you're just, and it's, like, you just want to make money for your business, it's, like, well.

06:16:06.560 But the business should care about its employees.

06:16:10.020 Mm-hmm.

06:16:12.320 But, I mean, women can still work even while they're menstruating.

06:16:17.820 Is that the right word?

06:16:19.200 Yeah.

06:16:19.800 Thank you.

06:16:20.220 Some of them are really.

06:16:21.700 Look, yeah, some women have really bad, uh, you know, uh, period cramps.

06:16:28.420 And, absolutely.

06:16:29.400 Totally, totally true.

06:16:30.620 Um, okay, we have Desert Jorge.

06:16:33.180 Desert Jorge donated $69.

06:16:36.280 Is anyone on the panel still awake?

06:16:38.980 Asking for a friend.

06:16:40.160 I'm fine, bro.

06:16:40.620 I'm fine.

06:16:40.800 And, as always, shout out to my homies in the Discord chat.

06:16:44.820 Yo.

06:16:45.740 A, uh, by the way, Nick, can you check for the gender swap?

06:16:48.220 But, you know, Desert Jorge, this is why the wage gap.

06:16:51.700 The wage gap exists.

06:16:52.880 Bro.

06:16:53.520 That's why the wage gap exists.

06:16:55.020 Because, you know, I'm good for another, fuck, I'll go for another three hours.

06:16:59.660 I'm good.

06:17:00.520 I can go for another three hours.

06:17:02.260 Oh, Shaw, I'm not sure about that.

06:17:03.740 I mean, shit, I was sleeping earlier.

06:17:05.460 But, after that power nap.

06:17:06.520 She got the nap, though.

06:17:07.340 She got a power nap.

06:17:08.100 I mean, I got an energy shot.

06:17:09.720 I'm good.

06:17:09.940 Oh, true, true.

06:17:11.400 Okay, we do a segment called Remove Your Makeup.

06:17:15.580 Who's down?

06:17:16.560 Who will take off their makeup?

06:17:17.760 I can take off my makeup.

06:17:19.060 Will you take the eyelashes?

06:17:20.200 Will you gift me your eyelashes?

06:17:21.900 I want to, I want them as a trophy.

06:17:24.620 I'm going to put them on my bookshelf back here.

06:17:26.580 Oh, shit.

06:17:27.920 Absolutely, Brian.

06:17:28.180 Holy fuck.

06:17:30.300 Does anybody have a glove?

06:17:32.020 Oh, my God.

06:17:32.740 A glove?

06:17:33.660 I'm clean, Brian.

06:17:35.000 No, I just, I.

06:17:35.540 Just because I'm triple dishes doesn't mean anything.

06:17:37.340 No, no, you're, there's, yeah, obviously your fake lashes don't have, like, an STD or

06:17:41.660 something.

06:17:42.220 But it's, it's just.

06:17:43.580 It was on your eyes.

06:17:44.360 I don't, I don't, here.

06:17:46.320 Well, makeup.

06:17:48.360 Make, makeup.

06:17:49.980 A glove.

06:17:51.080 Oh, I was joking about, here, I'll take it, though.

06:17:53.180 Aw.

06:17:53.340 Well, just be clear, I've been.

06:17:56.880 Chat, you know that scene from Fight Club?

06:17:58.380 I've been breaking out, so I'm sorry.

06:18:00.460 Anybody?

06:18:00.680 And this is terrible.

06:18:02.340 These are terrible makeup wipes, so he's going to make us break it up, break out even

06:18:06.380 more, so.

06:18:07.240 Yes, place it in my palm.

06:18:09.740 You're very welcome.

06:18:11.320 Wow.

06:18:12.180 That, here, should I just.

06:18:13.060 Okay, now, this is getting fun.

06:18:14.520 I got two on it.

06:18:15.320 Oh, per.

06:18:15.980 This is like, this is like Costco.

06:18:18.680 Wait, put it, put it on me, Nick.

06:18:20.980 All right, just let me know when to remove the makeup.

06:18:22.860 Wait, hold on, let me.

06:18:24.340 Is this the X your wipes used to make, like, use, Brian?

06:18:28.820 Put them on.

06:18:29.940 He's not listening to me.

06:18:31.700 Can you grab him my nails?

06:18:33.140 He's clueless.

06:18:35.420 He's into the lashes.

06:18:36.480 This is so weird.

06:18:37.560 Oh, my God, that almost fell into my dream.

06:18:38.960 You look so beautiful with lashes.

06:18:41.620 My eyelashes are already long.

06:18:43.380 I don't know why I say it.

06:18:44.240 They're long.

06:18:45.280 Oh, wow, okay.

06:18:46.600 Siona's like, your eyelashes, aren't it?

06:18:49.080 My name's Shona.

06:18:49.420 Oh, my God, and she hates me.

06:18:50.500 No, she's right.

06:18:50.900 Sorry.

06:18:51.120 Do you want to call me Brianna as, like, revenge?

06:18:55.720 Just call me Brianna.

06:18:56.740 Call me Brianna.

06:18:57.580 It's okay.

06:18:58.280 All right, everyone.

06:19:01.600 She doesn't think.

06:19:03.360 I think I have long eyelashes.

06:19:05.820 Rude.

06:19:06.420 You know what?

06:19:07.040 That's her revenge.

06:19:08.660 That's her revenge.

06:19:09.500 She's like, you know what, Brian?

06:19:10.720 You made a comment.

06:19:11.920 I'm going to make a comment.

06:19:12.880 Your eyelashes are not.

06:19:13.820 Is this a new segment?

06:19:15.540 It is.

06:19:16.780 It is a new segment.

06:19:18.100 This is crazy.

06:19:19.920 What's crazy about it?

06:19:21.240 I don't know.

06:19:21.500 Yeah, do I have to take those out, too?

06:19:22.900 No.

06:19:23.220 Yes.

06:19:23.840 And you have to eat them afterwards.

06:19:26.980 Actually, will you do it?

06:19:28.640 No, but I will take them out.

06:19:30.380 Take them out.

06:19:31.380 If you want to see the real me.

06:19:32.920 Yeah, those are, like, demon contacts.

06:19:35.220 Those are demon contacts.

06:19:36.680 Your lashes were so luscious, I didn't even notice.

06:19:39.900 Okay.

06:19:41.080 Oh, my gosh.

06:19:42.180 I'm getting, I'm ready for bed now.

06:19:44.320 My makeup's off.

06:19:47.300 Nice.

06:19:48.160 Thank you.

06:19:49.300 Love it.

06:19:49.900 I've been freaking out.

06:19:51.000 Love it.

06:19:51.700 $600 TTS.

06:19:52.660 Get it in.

06:19:53.560 Get it in, boys.

06:19:54.800 Get it in.

06:19:56.440 There's some more notes from.

06:19:57.880 I'm going to have to put my makeup on.

06:19:59.300 From my girl, uh, S, over here.

06:20:04.780 Sorry.

06:20:06.440 Shona.

06:20:07.080 You said it.

06:20:07.680 What the fuck, Felicity?

06:20:08.620 Get her name right.

06:20:09.340 I said Shona.

06:20:10.160 No, it's okay.

06:20:10.800 That's so fucking rude.

06:20:11.420 It's hard to pronounce.

06:20:13.400 Shona.

06:20:14.260 I said it right.

06:20:14.680 Hasty George donated $70.

06:20:17.620 Women who take sick days for painful menstruation cycles are understandable, but taking sick days

06:20:23.620 for mental health reasons.

06:20:25.020 That makes justice.

06:20:25.640 A man trying to claim that would be laughed at and then told to get to work.

06:20:30.060 No, if anyone's like clinically depressed or not mentally fit to work, they should have.

06:20:34.020 Wait, so, um, can, can, uh, those of you who took your makeup off, can you just hold

06:20:40.220 it up to the camera like, like this?

06:20:42.200 I'm pretty sure one of my contacts slid back into my eye, but it's fine.

06:20:45.660 Oh shit, you're going to die.

06:20:47.240 No, I'm not going to die.

06:20:48.420 I'm just going to lose vision.

06:20:48.920 Eyewear contacts?

06:20:50.860 That's crazy.

06:20:51.920 Come forward.

06:20:52.880 One, eventually.

06:20:55.020 But.

06:20:55.520 It'll come out.

06:20:56.520 I'm not.

06:20:56.900 You're good.

06:20:58.220 You're fine.

06:20:58.900 All right.

06:20:59.380 This is a real me, guys.

06:21:00.740 Love it.

06:21:01.320 You're so gorgeous.

06:21:03.280 I look better than my older skin.

06:21:04.620 You earned every single one of those 700, sorry, um, 400 bodies.

06:21:11.100 700.

06:21:11.660 Every single one you earned it.

06:21:13.440 Slay Queen.

06:21:14.220 No, your skin is actually present.

06:21:15.940 I was thinking you were going to say compliments, but thank you.

06:21:18.500 I love your double AK.

06:21:22.340 Oh, you noticed them?

06:21:23.820 Boob tattoos.

06:21:24.540 Oh yeah, I talked about an impulse, thank you.

06:21:27.240 Double AK.

06:21:28.440 Yes.

06:21:29.280 Let's go.

06:21:30.580 I like, no, it's cool.

06:21:32.100 Uh, okay.

06:21:33.000 You know what?

06:21:34.140 Uh, we have my girl S over here.

06:21:37.480 She wanted to, um, I wanted to what?

06:21:41.160 Are you coming back for Andrew?

06:21:42.960 Am I?

06:21:43.880 I'm down to have you.

06:21:45.260 I thought you were great.

06:21:46.060 Lucky fine.

06:21:46.640 Yeah, sure.

06:21:47.320 Okay.

06:21:47.580 Cause we won't get through all your notes, but maybe we'll do one lap, one or two last things.

06:21:52.080 Then we'll, you'll be like the final person because you had so many notes.

06:21:56.540 Uh, let's see.

06:21:57.760 I thought everyone would.

06:22:00.360 You just were very thorough.

06:22:02.580 So you asked from, you asked me to like expand.

06:22:05.220 So yeah, I was trying to give you.

06:22:07.420 Okay.

06:22:09.080 You said you disagree with the hate that only fans models get.

06:22:13.120 Um, the OF convo is kind of boring, but really quick.

06:22:16.240 Why is that?

06:22:16.960 I just think like ultimately like men sexualize women in society.

06:22:21.500 A woman decides that it's her, it's her personal choice.

06:22:24.700 She wants to profit off of that, earn money from that.

06:22:27.960 And I think like there's nothing necessarily wrong with that.

06:22:31.100 And that woman shouldn't be stigmatized or put down for that.

06:22:36.700 Uh, or you can go ahead.

06:22:38.120 Go ahead.

06:22:38.600 I thought you just going back there to whatever.

06:22:41.300 Uh, okay.

06:22:42.240 I mean, would you date a guy who watches porn or subscribe to an OF?

06:22:46.440 No.

06:22:47.100 Okay.

06:22:47.320 Why is that?

06:22:47.780 Like, is it bad?

06:22:48.700 Because I wouldn't want my man looking at other women.

06:22:51.980 Okay.

06:22:52.380 But, and I agree.

06:22:53.900 Like, I think in a relationship, it's really bad to watch porn.

06:22:58.080 Yeah.

06:22:58.600 Personally, like when it comes to like,

06:23:00.100 even in general, I mean, yeah, yeah, go ahead.

06:23:02.740 I was just going to say like,

06:23:03.400 when it comes to my values,

06:23:04.480 like around like sexuality, sex, like all of that,

06:23:07.560 like I'm personally like very conservative with it,

06:23:10.280 like in my own life.

06:23:11.480 But if someone else chooses to not be that way,

06:23:15.040 then I don't take issue with that at all.

06:23:17.460 And I don't think it's like something that should be hated on.

06:23:20.020 Um, but I mean,

06:23:23.240 do you think it would be good though?

06:23:28.040 Like if we were to tell women,

06:23:30.020 like, should they get involved in sex work?

06:23:32.580 Do you think we can make any prescriptive suggestions as to what women should do?

06:23:36.920 Like, would you want your own daughter to do sex work?

06:23:38.920 No, I would not want my own.

06:23:39.640 I don't, I think like even sex workers themselves,

06:23:41.640 they say like, oh, this industry has many pawns and like drawbacks to it.

06:23:46.900 And that it would not be recommended for anyone.

06:23:49.420 So I personally wouldn't want my daughter to do that.

06:23:51.580 But again, like if a woman, some other woman chooses,

06:23:54.500 she wants to do that and she makes a living off of that

06:23:57.140 and that works for her, then I think that's fine.

06:23:59.620 Wait, you said you were Hindu.

06:24:01.040 Mm-hmm.

06:24:01.920 Do you guys believe in reincarnation?

06:24:04.060 Yeah.

06:24:05.020 So when it comes to sex work,

06:24:07.900 it's all about showing your physical body

06:24:11.000 and you're reincarnating without that physical body.

06:24:14.640 So why should it matter?

06:24:17.100 What?

06:24:18.780 I wasn't aware that's how my religion worked,

06:24:20.800 but no, if like, the whole thing with like reincarnation...

06:24:25.120 Because you're not reincarnating to the same body.

06:24:29.360 So are you saying that I'm like,

06:24:30.940 I'm going to be reincarnated as a sex worker?

06:24:33.240 No, no, no.

06:24:34.100 I'm saying that like right now in this lifetime,

06:24:36.580 if you're a sex worker right now

06:24:38.020 and you believe that you're reincarnating into another lifetime,

06:24:42.480 you're not going to go into the with like that life...

06:24:45.560 To the same body that I'm just now.

06:24:46.900 Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

06:24:48.260 So like, I feel like, I don't know,

06:24:50.680 it just doesn't matter as much

06:24:52.160 when you care about your soul more.

06:24:54.580 In this lifetime, I'm still going to treat my human body

06:24:57.240 like with the respect that I think it deserves.

06:25:00.300 Yeah.

06:25:00.680 I do have a question.

06:25:02.620 So if you're Hindu, why do you wear a cross?

06:25:05.760 They already asked him that.

06:25:07.000 It's a stylistic choice.

06:25:08.880 She likes the aesthetic.

06:25:09.880 Yeah, that's valid.

06:25:11.760 I like your answer.

06:25:12.580 She likes the aesthetics of it.

06:25:14.960 And it's a good, it's good, good aesthetics, you know.

06:25:18.940 Okay, guys, we're actually lowering the roast session to 30.

06:25:22.360 We're going to, and then that's what we're capping off the show with.

06:25:25.180 We'll do a 10 minute roast session.

06:25:27.220 Then we're going to get this wrapped.

06:25:28.340 So if you guys want $30 TTS roast, get it in, get it in.

06:25:33.740 I really need a figure of makeup on.

06:25:36.060 And yeah.

06:25:36.920 I'm chopped, bro.

06:25:38.020 No, I have to really put my makeup on.

06:25:40.220 You are a 10 out of 10 queen, strong, independent.

06:25:41.740 What was the point of taking off all our makeup?

06:25:44.940 And not sleepy anymore.

06:25:46.980 Oh, great.

06:25:47.860 Right before we end the show.

06:25:50.840 Good timing.

06:25:52.380 I just need a little nap.

06:25:54.040 Okay.

06:25:55.000 Guys, $30 TTS.

06:25:56.340 If you want to get a roast in, $30 TTS.

06:25:59.280 And I mean, I guess my objections is,

06:26:03.440 I think you would approach adult content from both angles.

06:26:09.860 You reduce the supply and you reduce the demand.

06:26:12.560 So we need to put messaging programming out there.

06:26:15.900 And women can do a really good job at this.

06:26:18.520 I mean, and I think it's a lot of women's stated preferences of,

06:26:21.280 I don't want to date a guy who watches porn.

06:26:24.360 That's pathetic.

06:26:25.060 I don't want to date a guy who subs to OF girls.

06:26:28.060 That's pathetic.

06:26:29.040 So it can be like women sort of creating the social paradigm where this is like just unacceptable for men to do.

06:26:37.400 But also I think we can just say probably shouldn't be producing it also.

06:26:42.660 And cut it off on both fronts.

06:26:45.980 I mean, again, like if someone makes the individual choice of wanting to put sexual content out there and someone makes the choice of wanting to watch it, I don't take issue with that.

06:26:55.600 Like that's just like a difference in values around sex.

06:26:57.900 And I think everyone's entitled to have different values around sex.

06:27:01.140 But if you want to find high virtue men, like we need to create a culture where this is something that's shamed.

06:27:11.340 Like absent, like criminalizing either the consumption of porn or the creation of porn, the only mechanism we have to change society would I suppose be through shame.

06:27:21.780 In addition to shame, also saying here's the better paradigm of how society should be.

06:27:30.940 The high virtue man I want knows that that content is out there and still chooses to not consume it.

06:27:37.780 Which like these men are very much real normal men.

06:27:40.500 Like not every man is like a degenerate who's addicted to porn.

06:27:43.560 Sure.

06:27:43.820 Even though their pornography exists, there's absolutely men despite the supply being there.

06:27:48.540 They're still not going to consume.

06:27:49.840 And instead of like cutting off the supply, I would rather just have the trust in the man that he doesn't.

06:27:53.980 Well, I think we should do both.

06:27:55.620 Men should be proactive and say, I'm not going to consume this content.

06:27:58.700 And women should not participate in the production of said content.

06:28:04.160 But like I don't dictate other people's choices based on what's going to work for me eventually.

06:28:08.700 Well, you vote on laws.

06:28:09.820 I wish I could vote.

06:28:10.820 And you could shame people.

06:28:12.200 I wish I could vote.

06:28:12.820 Shame is super effective.

06:28:14.100 I don't like to shame people unless they're actively causing people harm.

06:28:18.020 It's never going to be that way.

06:28:20.000 I mean, producing porn harms themselves and it harms society at large.

06:28:23.560 Hey, Sophie Raines earning millions of dollars a year living perfectly well.

06:28:27.400 I don't think she's harming herself.

06:28:29.380 Well, I mean, there's varying degrees of sex work, but well, it's you have to stream labs.

06:28:36.500 You got to do stream labs.

06:28:38.220 I'm sorry.

06:28:38.940 Send it through stream labs.

06:28:39.880 I apologize, but we can't do supers right now.

06:28:41.700 I just believe in like not asserting my individual ways of living onto others, which is like my overall principle behind believing that.

06:28:47.600 I mean, this you referenced Sophie Raines.

06:28:50.940 Yeah, she's made tens of millions of dollars.

06:28:53.020 Maybe a lot of women would do that trade.

06:28:56.280 And to be charitable, I don't think she's doing like super insane, hardcore stuff is my understanding.

06:29:03.060 I mean, what she claims and what is actually true, I'm not entirely sure.

06:29:06.860 But she says, I think that she's just doing solo stuff, which it's still sex work.

06:29:14.700 I'm prepared to say it's obviously not as bad as like fucking hardcore orgies and this sort of thing or whatever.

06:29:21.340 But what good?

06:29:24.960 Look, I'm not even Christian, but I know this.

06:29:27.680 I don't think it's adding to society necessarily.

06:29:29.900 I just believe in people making their own individual.

06:29:32.960 There is a, again, I'm not Christian, but it is compelling.

06:29:37.040 What good does it, what, hold on.

06:29:40.040 Oh my God, butchering it every time.

06:29:41.960 Think, worry about what you're going to say.

06:29:43.580 What good does it gain, oh my God, I'm actually, I'm actually like cooked right now.

06:29:48.960 It's a champagne.

06:29:49.720 What good.

06:29:51.040 Maybe he didn't eat it in the bathroom.

06:29:52.120 What good does it do to gain the world if it's at the cost of your soul?

06:29:56.940 So yeah, you could.

06:29:57.940 At the cost of your soul.

06:29:59.440 Yeah, it's at the cost of your soul.

06:30:00.640 It's a very supernatural way of putting it.

06:30:03.600 Aren't you a, what are you?

06:30:07.240 I don't believe your soul suddenly disappears just because you put out such a requirement.

06:30:11.760 Are you Hindu or?

06:30:13.020 I'm Hindu, yeah.

06:30:13.920 I mean, from like a, so this is a Christian biblical verse.

06:30:17.760 Hindu isn't very liberal.

06:30:18.620 But from the Christian perspective, lust, and that would include like inducing people to lust, is a sin.

06:30:26.460 And so from the Christian perspective, which is, I've recited to a Christian biblical verse, this actually is completely coherent.

06:30:35.420 That if you do engage in lust, then you have given up your soul.

06:30:42.100 Okay.

06:30:42.640 That's the Christian perspective.

06:30:43.920 Or you've damaged your soul or harmed your soul.

06:30:46.920 Mm-hmm.

06:30:48.120 Yeah.

06:30:49.800 And I say that as agnostic, you know what I mean?

06:30:53.620 I mean, personally, in my own life, I would rather like, I don't think being lustful is a good thing.

06:30:59.140 I just don't think.

06:30:59.820 You're an agnostic.

06:31:00.820 I don't think people should be shamed for wanting to.

06:31:04.380 How long have you been like an agnostic for your whole life?

06:31:08.220 Pretty much, yeah.

06:31:09.700 I want to bring you a book.

06:31:12.940 Okay.

06:31:13.420 I was literally thinking about bringing it to you.

06:31:15.560 Ship it.

06:31:16.480 Ship the book.

06:31:17.620 I will appreciate it.

06:31:18.940 I don't know.

06:31:19.460 I would just say to any women watching who are-

06:31:21.420 But would you read it?

06:31:22.320 Any women watching who are contemplating doing sex work, your future husband and future children will not appreciate that there's naked photos of you out there on the internet.

06:31:33.760 I'll say that.

06:31:34.680 But I have a question.

06:31:35.340 What if they appreciate the fact that that sex work provided a roof over their heads, a bed for them to sleep, food on the table, and a whole lifetime?

06:31:45.280 And usually they want to be part of it.

06:31:47.700 Well, the vast majority of women on OnlyFans make like 300 bucks or something a month.

06:31:52.220 A lot of women.

06:31:53.040 Yeah, some women can make a bunch of money.

06:31:54.800 A lot of women don't make a lot.

06:31:57.460 And that shit typically is forever out there.

06:32:00.360 Internet's pretty much forever.

06:32:01.680 And I would still say there's other ways to provide yourself.

06:32:07.400 There's other ways to make money that don't include posting degenerate photos of yourself on the internet.

06:32:14.820 I think if you're going to like stigmatize these women, just make sure to stigmatize the men who consume it.

06:32:22.840 Yeah.

06:32:22.940 And re-describe for it just as much.

06:32:24.960 Men, don't watch porn, you fucking degenerates.

06:32:29.120 Or at least limit it to as much as possible.

06:32:32.680 Don't be a fucking gooner.

06:32:34.040 Like, don't be a porn addict.

06:32:35.320 I do think, to be fair, unless a man is a porn addict, I do think the impact of a man who moderately consumes porn is overstated.

06:32:53.260 Like, again, my own personal conduct, if I'm in a relationship with a woman, don't watch porn.

06:33:00.360 I mean, if she's like on vacation and she's gone for like months, then maybe, even then though, I'm typically not consuming porn.

06:33:09.220 I think men sexualize women more than women sexualize themselves.

06:33:13.140 Oh, yeah.

06:33:14.820 Wait, men sexualize women more?

06:33:16.940 More than women sexualize themselves.

06:33:18.680 That's debatable.

06:33:20.320 Yep.

06:33:20.800 That's debatable.

06:33:22.460 I am cold.

06:33:25.780 You're cold.

06:33:27.280 Yeah, you're not.

06:33:28.020 Okay, final thing from our friend.

06:33:33.180 We have, you say women can be successful in both domestic and professional spheres and are not inferior to men in ways people say they are?

06:33:41.800 Okay.

06:33:42.600 I just don't think.

06:33:43.540 I don't think we should view women as inferior.

06:33:46.100 There's obviously differences between men and women.

06:33:48.680 But what, I guess you say, can be successful.

06:33:51.340 Does anybody else want to weigh in on this?

06:33:53.500 Like, you guys can.

06:33:55.060 And that just means women can, like, a woman can pursue the career she wants to pursue while also being present in the household and raising children.

06:34:02.520 Can't you, though?

06:34:03.240 Yeah.

06:34:03.760 Yeah, where I come from.

06:34:04.640 Like, I see so many successful women with successful men raising their children and pooling together their incomes and, like, leading their child to also be very successful.

06:34:14.060 Yeah.

06:34:14.240 So, I guess my question to you is.

06:34:16.380 It only helps the child's future, actually.

06:34:18.040 Oh, here's a good question.

06:34:18.940 Two sources of income pooled together.

06:34:20.320 Here's a good question.

06:34:21.700 If, remind me what you want to do for work.

06:34:25.040 I want to go into medicine, but ideally, like, psychiatry.

06:34:28.500 Psychiatry?

06:34:29.060 Yeah, but, like, some kind of doctor.

06:34:30.300 If you were to meet a really successful guy, let's say he made a million dollars a year.

06:34:34.740 This is really high income.

06:34:36.140 That puts you well into the top 1%.

06:34:38.380 Yeah.

06:34:39.040 At that level of income, even if you lived in, like, the highest cost of living place in the United States, which is, like, maybe New York or Santa Barbara or Hawaii, something like this.

06:34:51.080 You can absolutely, you would never have to work another day in your life.

06:34:54.980 If, though, here's the, I guess, the tradeoff.

06:34:59.500 You can be with a man who makes a million dollars, but he would want you to not work.

06:35:05.480 And he would want you to stay at home and raise the kids.

06:35:08.500 I would choose to work because I want to be, I want to pursue this.

06:35:12.020 Like, it's important to me to, like, help people.

06:35:14.780 Well, you can help other people other ways.

06:35:17.260 I think you're able to do it to, like, a much larger degree and a larger scale.

06:35:22.820 Through psychiatry?

06:35:23.780 Yeah.

06:35:24.140 Just mental health care?

06:35:25.940 Giving people mind-altering drugs and...

06:35:29.600 Curing clinical depression, anxiety, saving people's lives who could be suicidal and inpatient care.

06:35:34.700 You do think it's fair, though, like the modern psychiatric...

06:35:39.380 The FDA is hilarious.

06:35:41.820 As a physician, I believe, across the health care field, not just psychiatry, but as it relates to certain things, there's massive amounts of over-medication, unjustified medication of people.

06:35:53.040 So that should mean there should be better psychiatrists, then?

06:35:55.600 Sure, that's a fair thing to say.

06:35:56.440 I would want to go about it the right way in my own career.

06:35:57.960 That's a fair thing to say, but, I mean, a psychiatrist is typically someone you go to specifically to receive psychiatric medication, whereas you could be a psychologist, for example.

06:36:05.520 I think psychiatrists do more good than harm.

06:36:07.460 Also, psychologists can prescribe medication and they earn more money.

06:36:10.400 I'm pretty sure psychologists can't prescribe medication.

06:36:14.180 They can't.

06:36:14.700 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

06:36:15.500 Psychologists can't prescribe medication.

06:36:16.580 Right.

06:36:16.840 Psychiatrists make more money because they're capable of prescribing medication.

06:36:20.200 Yeah.

06:36:20.500 It's obviously a higher level.

06:36:22.420 I think it's...

06:36:22.900 Is it med school or is it something different?

06:36:24.700 Med school.

06:36:24.720 It's med school.

06:36:25.140 All they do is ask you what's wrong with you and just keep giving you meds until, like, you're like a guinea pig.

06:36:31.580 It's, like, the weirdest thing ever.

06:36:32.880 I think it's fair to say psychiatrists, overall, do more good than harm in this world.

06:36:37.740 I disagree.

06:36:38.200 But, okay, back to the point, though, is, just to be clear, so if a guy who's a millionaire said...

06:36:43.160 Oh, this one's my advantage.

06:36:44.580 Whoa, I'm a narcissist now.

06:36:46.220 Sorry.

06:36:46.600 Well, don't worry.

06:36:47.060 Don't worry.

06:36:47.480 A guy who's a millionaire, hey, and you really like this guy, and he's like, but look, you don't have to work.

06:36:55.440 And knowing, like, obviously there's a concern, like, okay, well, what if it doesn't work out?

06:36:58.880 I should be able to, you know, be in a position where I can take care of myself.

06:37:01.740 Let's say in this hypothetical situation it's granted that he's a good guy, he's not going to abuse you, and he's going to stay with you forever.

06:37:10.040 I still want to work.

06:37:11.140 Okay.

06:37:11.600 What about you?

06:37:12.600 Would you meet a guy who makes a million dollars a year, but the tradeoff is he doesn't want you working?

06:37:18.880 Do you take that deal?

06:37:19.560 Yeah, sorry.

06:37:24.920 No, I was really...

06:37:25.500 I feel like if you added up all the pauses, it's like half the show.

06:37:28.080 Stop, no, because...

06:37:28.960 Go ahead, go ahead.

06:37:30.000 Yes, no, yes, no.

06:37:31.020 Yes, yes, yes.

06:37:31.320 What about you?

06:37:31.920 Do you take that deal?

06:37:32.940 Because you're devil's advocate, asshole.

06:37:35.860 Honestly, I would.

06:37:36.940 As much as I want to work, I feel like if there's an opportunity where I didn't have to work, because I've been working my whole life, I'd take that offer.

06:37:44.880 It'd be nice, right, not to have to work.

06:37:46.360 What about you?

06:37:47.180 You take that deal?

06:37:48.340 Absolutely, I would.

06:37:49.120 There, oh, okay, there we go.

06:37:50.040 I also, like, I want to go into, like, a creative profession, though, and so I can just do it for free.

06:37:55.140 Well, he would, you would be able to pursue your creativity as a hobby.

06:37:59.500 Yeah, that's split.

06:37:59.860 But he wouldn't want you to do it as a profession.

06:38:02.300 That's fine.

06:38:03.040 You're fine with it?

06:38:03.720 Yeah.

06:38:03.820 Okay, what about you?

06:38:04.700 I would make sure I marry a guy specifically so when he dies, I can take all his money.

06:38:10.660 Like a sugar daddy?

06:38:11.620 Love it.

06:38:12.740 Bella, do you take that trade?

06:38:15.180 You can be with a guy who makes a million dollars a year.

06:38:17.840 But not work at all.

06:38:19.180 But the trade-off is, doesn't want you to work, you don't work.

06:38:23.960 I mean, yeah.

06:38:25.080 You take that trade?

06:38:25.880 Felicity, you take that trade?

06:38:26.860 100%.

06:38:27.180 You take that trade?

06:38:28.160 Yes.

06:38:29.060 Okay.

06:38:29.860 Hit me up.

06:38:30.300 Don't take, you don't take the trade?

06:38:32.280 I think money is only really meaningful to me when, like, I feel that it's, like, achieved and not just handed to me.

06:38:38.320 Okay, what about, let me go super extreme, billionaire?

06:38:43.100 Definitely not.

06:38:44.940 Also, like, I want to be with someone who also, like, is aligned with me in that way that they want to have, like, a meaningful, impactful career.

06:38:50.840 And I think a lot of billionaires, like, their money and their, like, career is predicated upon just amassing as much money as possible.

06:38:57.400 Mm-hmm.

06:38:58.120 And, like, I want to find another doctor one day, for example.

06:39:01.460 Okay, but don't you think if you were to date somebody who's a billionaire, I mean, these sort of advantages that that would confer not just upon you and the sort of ease with which you can move through life.

06:39:14.400 I don't worship money.

06:39:15.140 We're talking, like, never have to work, never have to.

06:39:17.500 And when you're a billionaire, you don't have to lift.

06:39:18.880 That's not a privilege to me.

06:39:20.040 Well, you don't have to.

06:39:20.900 Hold on.

06:39:21.500 Well, wealth privilege, like, having rich parents is, like, one of the, aside from, like, health privilege, wealth privilege is, like, the biggest privilege that you can have.

06:39:30.520 Yeah, like, it's not a privilege to me to be handed all this money by my husband and to just sit back and relax.

06:39:35.740 That would be a privilege, but.

06:39:37.080 It's not a privilege I would enjoy or want.

06:39:40.460 Okay, but, I mean, and by the way, at the billionaire level, you don't have to do laundry.

06:39:45.040 You don't have to cook.

06:39:45.860 You don't have to clean.

06:39:46.760 There's maids.

06:39:47.540 Cooking's fun.

06:39:48.220 I like cooking.

06:39:49.460 Okay, well, you can still cook, but, like, some of the household chores or whatever, never have to worry about it.

06:39:54.020 I don't loathe that.

06:39:54.460 And you've literally set up a thousand years of your generation.

06:39:59.860 Like, your grandchildren, that's a thousand-year dynasty level wealth.

06:40:04.520 It is my life's goal to pursue this, like.

06:40:07.440 Okay, not even a billionaire.

06:40:10.300 Like, I'll do something.

06:40:11.200 I'd be less inclined to be a billionaire.

06:40:12.640 If some billionaire woman is like, Brian, let me save you from this podcast.

06:40:16.220 You'd take that one.

06:40:16.820 I'm bowing.

06:40:18.140 I would do it.

06:40:18.660 I'm taking that trade.

06:40:20.560 I'll take the trade.

06:40:21.280 Good trade.

06:40:21.860 I also don't think.

06:40:22.520 I think, like, majority of billionaires, they just, like, I think if you have a billion dollars, you should keep it.

06:40:27.580 I don't believe in, like, splitting up your wealth.

06:40:29.360 But I think a lot of them are slightly out of touch and just obsessed with money.

06:40:34.740 You know what?

06:40:35.500 If somebody wants to say, I'm out of touch, but I get to be a billionaire, I'd take that trade.

06:40:41.320 I'm sure you would love that.

06:40:41.920 Do you take that trade?

06:40:42.640 No, I don't want to be a billionaire.

06:40:43.760 You don't, wait, so somebody, here's a billion dollars.

06:40:47.560 I wouldn't take it.

06:40:48.320 I would not take that.

06:40:49.280 You wouldn't.

06:40:49.740 Why?

06:40:50.220 Could you not use it for good?

06:40:51.840 Could you not use that money for, like, extreme good for the world?

06:40:54.880 Okay, Brian, I'm clocking out.

06:40:56.380 I would also never be motivated to work again.

06:40:59.820 Wait, go ahead.

06:41:00.800 It would be hard for me to be motivated to work again if, like, money was just handed to me like that.

06:41:05.720 Motivate to work to what end?

06:41:08.400 Like, most people work to make money, right?

06:41:10.600 And I get that people can have careers that are fulfilling.

06:41:13.340 And help others.

06:41:14.760 Yes, absolutely.

06:41:15.860 But I guess my position was, what's the maximal level of help you could do?

06:41:20.140 Like, to her point, Kira brings up a good point.

06:41:22.800 If you were just gifted a billion dollars, I get that being a psychiatrist would be helpful for people.

06:41:28.420 But you could, like, donate a hundred million dollars, and that would dwarf any sort of benefit that you could reap by helping people with their psychiatric issues.

06:41:39.400 Okay, if you gave me a billion dollars, I would donate it all.

06:41:41.940 Yeah, you could donate it.

06:41:42.620 A hundred percent of it to humanitarian aid, and then continue on with my life.

06:41:46.500 And it wouldn't be right at all.

06:41:46.840 But the trade-off is you couldn't work if you get the billion dollars.

06:41:51.060 No, I want to work.

06:41:52.500 But you don't want to fund, like, research attorneys?

06:41:54.500 Wait, so here, let me just understand this.

06:41:55.760 Well, you're asking me to, like, give up my life's goals.

06:41:59.320 So, of course, that's...

06:42:00.620 But if we're looking at the totality of the benefit, like, you could even give $10 million to, like, some psychiatric association.

06:42:09.320 Or you could give $10 million so people who go to psychiatrists can, it probably costs more than that, can get their medicine for free.

06:42:18.100 I don't know, you could have positive impact that would completely, through a billion dollars, completely dwarf the benefit that you would do by just being a psychiatrist.

06:42:28.960 And just have to throw away my life?

06:42:30.940 Like, my life's goals like that?

06:42:32.680 Well, you don't have any other ambition?

06:42:34.740 Like, what about having a family?

06:42:35.780 Having kids, having friends, traveling.

06:42:38.540 But that's, like, a huge part.

06:42:39.420 Do you like to travel?

06:42:40.660 Yeah.

06:42:41.440 But, like, again, like...

06:42:42.420 Shit, travel.

06:42:43.280 You would ask me to compromise on something that's, like, really meaningful to me.

06:42:47.360 And I would be very, very sad to not be able to work.

06:42:50.840 You'd be sad to have someone gift you a billion dollars?

06:42:54.920 I don't...

06:42:55.520 And the only strings attached are...

06:42:56.700 I do not worship money.

06:42:58.020 Like, maybe you do.

06:42:59.320 I really don't.

06:42:59.760 Well, it's not that I worship money.

06:43:01.220 I'm actually...

06:43:01.920 You sound like you really want that a billion dollars.

06:43:03.760 Well, I mean, I would question...

06:43:05.620 I would...

06:43:06.560 I mean, I'd wonder why somebody...

06:43:08.700 Like, if it was to just be gifted to you, why wouldn't you want it?

06:43:13.820 Because I didn't earn it.

06:43:15.460 So?

06:43:16.340 So, then, therefore, it's not...

06:43:18.200 Like, it doesn't feel, like, worth it to me.

06:43:21.400 And it just feels like...

06:43:22.600 So, if I had a thousand dollars right now, and I was going to pass it to you, you wouldn't take it?

06:43:28.620 No.

06:43:29.780 And if I did, I would literally give it to someone who needs it, not myself.

06:43:32.900 I need it.

06:43:33.840 Interesting.

06:43:35.200 Anybody here who takes the billion?

06:43:36.680 Everybody take the billion?

06:43:39.500 What about the richest man in the world?

06:43:42.140 Yes.

06:43:42.400 Would you not work?

06:43:43.820 I have a question.

06:43:44.840 Go ahead.

06:43:45.620 Do you...

06:43:46.140 Are you completely, like, financially independent?

06:43:49.600 But that's...

06:43:50.420 Again, like, I need financial support from my parents.

06:43:54.140 Yeah, but you didn't earn it, though.

06:43:56.620 Like...

06:43:56.980 Yeah, but...

06:43:57.400 Oh, shit.

06:43:57.900 Do you have EBT?

06:43:58.800 Oh, shit.

06:43:59.660 Kira coming in.

06:44:01.000 I'm sorry.

06:44:01.480 No, you're kidding.

06:44:01.880 I just...

06:44:02.640 Do you use EBT?

06:44:04.440 Do you have EBT?

06:44:05.240 I don't know what that is.

06:44:06.160 Okay, never mind.

06:44:06.860 Never mind.

06:44:07.280 I mean, as someone who's only 18 who doesn't have my own career for myself, I need to be

06:44:11.500 financially supported by my parents.

06:44:12.380 I think that's perfectly reasonable.

06:44:13.560 But even with, like, the allowance they give me, I work a job that...

06:44:18.760 I work in, like, my school's cafeteria, and I have to do dishes for hours on end purely

06:44:22.260 because I want to have the experience of earning my own money, even though I don't have

06:44:25.160 to do that.

06:44:27.400 That's good.

06:44:29.080 I just want to teach myself to work hard.

06:44:32.260 Okay.

06:44:32.980 Well, I don't know.

06:44:35.580 I guess final thought on this whole...

06:44:39.240 Nick, just show the roast.

06:44:41.220 We'll do the roast.

06:44:41.960 We'll wrap.

06:44:42.320 Okay, guys, I'm going to let some...

06:44:43.720 Just because I need to get things wrapped up, we're going to let the roast come through.

06:44:48.840 Holy...

06:44:49.600 Oh, my God.

06:44:50.360 I'm such a piece of shit.

06:44:51.600 What happened?

06:44:52.660 Did you not record it?

06:44:53.900 I wasn't...

06:44:54.800 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

06:44:56.640 I feel so...

06:44:57.960 This guy, Cherry Creams...

06:45:00.240 What?

06:45:00.640 I'm sorry.

06:45:01.180 I wasn't...

06:45:01.560 Shut the fuck up!

06:45:04.040 Cherry Creams donated $500 so you can shut the full cup.

06:45:08.920 I'm sorry, dude.

06:45:10.800 Okay, we're muting you.

06:45:11.680 Like, for about 10 minutes, and then you can yap as much as you want.

06:45:16.240 Okay, hold on.

06:45:17.680 Oh, wait, but some of these are directed...

06:45:21.640 Cherry, you're doing me dirty here.

06:45:24.060 She can make facial expressions.

06:45:25.600 Yeah, you'll do facial expressions, I guess.

06:45:28.080 Yo, Cherry.

06:45:28.880 Thank you.

06:45:29.240 I'm sorry, dude.

06:45:30.080 I missed...

06:45:30.760 I'm sorry.

06:45:32.300 Pasty George donated $30.

06:45:35.200 Chair 1, you wouldn't want your boyfriend to watch Butterfly?

06:45:39.180 What if your future boyfriend didn't want you to go out to bars or clubs, have a girls' night, or travel abroad with your lady friends?

06:45:47.000 Uh, you know what?

06:45:48.940 Here, Pasty, I'll try to get it at the end when she's unmuted.

06:45:52.720 I gotta respect the mute.

06:45:55.100 I'm actually sort of curious about Chair 9.

06:45:58.760 Did you choose not to have sex outside of relationships for personal reasons?

06:46:03.720 Religious convictions?

06:46:05.420 Best of luck on starting a family with your husband.

06:46:09.400 Um, yeah, just for...

06:46:11.040 It's just my own morals, I guess.

06:46:13.580 Mm-hmm.

06:46:14.300 Um, yeah, it just wasn't about just, you know, having random sex with people.

06:46:18.900 Sure.

06:46:20.120 We have...

06:46:22.140 Nikki Cuban.

06:46:23.280 Nikki Cuban donated $30.

06:46:25.820 Wage gap is due to men generally being more comfortable asking for a higher pay and negotiating.

06:46:31.900 Women are more likely to accept an offer provided.

06:46:34.940 There's a study done.

06:46:36.580 Nothing to do with sexism.

06:46:39.740 Charles Sterling donated $30.

06:46:42.560 What do you ladies think about prenuptial agreement?

06:46:47.000 Yes.

06:46:47.800 Yeah.

06:46:48.040 I'm in favor.

06:46:49.020 No, I'm in favor.

06:46:49.580 I was for the ladies, though, so...

06:46:50.580 Never getting a prenup.

06:46:52.540 Never getting a prenup.

06:46:53.820 It protects me, too.

06:46:54.320 Definitely get a prenup.

06:46:55.640 Definitely get a prenup.

06:46:56.840 Yeah, I would get a prenup.

06:46:58.420 Here, Pasty, that's another one for Chair 1, so we'll...

06:47:02.140 Chor XT donated $30.

06:47:05.660 If we can agree that flowers harms men and that flowers is addictive and can ruin people's lives...

06:47:11.160 Porn.

06:47:11.620 It means porn.

06:47:12.060 It's rather telling that women will not condemn an addiction that primarily destroys the lives of men only.

06:47:17.680 Chor XT donated $30.

06:47:22.340 Societies has fallen because we no longer shame-degenerate behavior like we did decades ago.

06:47:28.600 Shame flowers content creators, for example, women.

06:47:32.600 Shame flowers content consumers, for example, men.

06:47:36.520 Eldegions.

06:47:37.140 Nick, when you do this trade, your girlfriend, Nick, is a billionaire.

06:47:46.140 Here's the trade-off.

06:47:47.720 You have to wear a dress for the rest of your life.

06:47:52.560 But she's a billionaire.

06:47:55.180 You don't do that trade?

06:47:56.880 There's no way I'm doing that.

06:47:58.180 Are you?

06:48:01.740 You would.

06:48:02.420 The billion dollars...

06:48:04.480 For money.

06:48:05.760 Come on, Brian.

06:48:08.140 That's...

06:48:08.680 Wait, that's such a difficult question.

06:48:10.500 Harry Styles-type dresses, like the good ones.

06:48:13.960 I can't say it.

06:48:14.900 Don't lie.

06:48:15.840 You would do it.

06:48:16.920 Cherry cream...

06:48:17.580 I'm sorry.

06:48:18.220 I fucked up.

06:48:19.760 I muted Chair 1 for 10 minutes.

06:48:22.280 I'm sorry.

06:48:22.820 Can you mute her?

06:48:24.080 Here's what we'll do, Cherry.

06:48:26.360 For tonight, if you want to...

06:48:28.060 The minimum threshold is 10.

06:48:30.500 Because of the delay for you, just 10.

06:48:34.340 I'll send you...

06:48:35.240 You can do three roasts at 10 instead of...

06:48:39.120 I don't know if that's...

06:48:40.240 I don't know.

06:48:41.000 Just to make it up for you, I apologize.

06:48:43.720 And then, in addition to that, if you DM me on Instagram, I'll give you one free TTS for next show.

06:48:51.920 Like, you can pre-send me a question, and I'll do it.

06:48:54.320 You have to prove it to you, though, just...

06:48:56.240 Pasty George donated $30.

06:48:57.800 If women don't want men to be gooners by watching Puppy, then women shouldn't be gooners for dildos.

06:49:04.360 Why can't women stick with their fingers as some men stick with their hand?

06:49:08.960 That's crazy.

06:49:11.060 That's interesting.

06:49:13.800 Okay.

06:49:16.260 Pasty George donated $30.

06:49:19.020 Brian, you are never going to get through to her.

06:49:21.680 She is indoctrinated to think that her life goal is to work and be a strong, independent woman

06:49:27.620 instead of having a real life, such as raising a family.

06:49:31.540 I can fix her.

06:49:32.460 Thank you for that, Pasty George.

06:49:34.020 Appreciate it.

06:49:35.800 Blaze 17 donated $30.

06:49:38.720 She cares about the status of being a doctor.

06:49:41.660 If she was truly motivated by helping others, she would put them first and put her second

06:49:46.040 by taking the billion and putting her dreams-slash-ego aside.

06:49:49.860 How much time do we have on the mute?

06:49:56.480 L underscore sats donated $30.

06:49:59.300 Should have Frank castled sleeping Snorlax.

06:50:02.640 L.

06:50:04.640 You know...

06:50:05.680 I try to be forgiving, you know?

06:50:09.460 I try to give people chances.

06:50:11.440 I was close, though.

06:50:12.780 I was very close to giving them the red card.

06:50:14.360 Does it look orange on camera?

06:50:15.680 At least on the TV here.

06:50:18.940 Pasty, once the unmute goes off, I'll do the final ones for her.

06:50:24.520 I almost want...

06:50:25.560 The final thing I just want to engage with you here is the boss babe mentality stuff or

06:50:30.060 whatever.

06:50:32.580 She wants.

06:50:33.840 She really wants.

06:50:35.300 My position would be, and if you want, you can respond to it after the mute comes off,

06:50:39.220 is in terms of what's best for the children.

06:50:43.500 So my perspective, and I know not all families will be able to do this because of the economic

06:50:48.060 reality.

06:50:49.040 I think...

06:50:50.140 And it could be whether it's the man or the woman.

06:50:52.660 But I think the best scenario for the child would be somebody goes out, works, makes the

06:50:58.940 money, and somebody stays home and takes care of the kid.

06:51:02.900 I think it can be bad for the children to push them to daycare, to push them to babysitters,

06:51:11.940 to push them to nannies, to push them to childcare.

06:51:14.720 The best care that any child will get will always be from the mother.

06:51:20.640 And I would even argue, you'll get better care from the father than passing it off to some

06:51:28.440 child, some daycare worker that gets paid 18 bucks an hour, doesn't really care about

06:51:33.500 your kid.

06:51:35.320 They're going to get better care.

06:51:37.660 And I think it's going to...

06:51:39.820 What's that?

06:51:40.660 Oh, nothing.

06:51:41.200 Oh.

06:51:42.300 The kid will turn out better.

06:51:44.280 I was going to say, I object.

06:51:51.140 You...

06:51:51.740 How so?

06:51:52.260 Why?

06:51:52.680 Like, why do you object?

06:51:53.420 Okay, because not all moms deserve to be moms.

06:51:58.060 Yeah, sure.

06:51:59.140 Yeah, because like...

06:51:59.960 And there's bad moms out there.

06:52:01.360 Like, yeah, it's conceivable that a given childcare worker could be better than like an abusive

06:52:07.060 mom or something.

06:52:08.640 But factoring in, like, let's say there's no abuse on either, like, the childcare work...

06:52:13.280 Because there are also abusive childcare workers.

06:52:17.300 Children under the...

06:52:18.460 In childcare could be abused in various ways.

06:52:21.160 But let's assume for both cases, there's no...

06:52:23.840 There's no abuse and they're doing well.

06:52:27.000 The care will still be better from the mother than the childcare worker.

06:52:35.540 Kids?

06:52:36.420 Anybody?

06:52:37.240 Kira?

06:52:38.420 Bella?

06:52:39.060 It seemed like you really wanted to weigh in here, Bellington.

06:52:43.680 Bella?

06:52:44.100 Why is that my nickname?

06:52:45.560 I don't know.

06:52:46.020 I can give everybody else nicknames.

06:52:48.620 Aubrey Plaza.

06:52:50.800 Audrey?

06:52:51.400 Is it Aubrey Plaza?

06:52:52.440 It's Aubrey.

06:52:53.100 I've heard that before.

06:52:53.740 Aubrey Plaza.

06:52:57.420 I don't want to bully you.

06:52:59.460 I feel like I can say something.

06:53:02.680 You can say marijuana.

06:53:05.500 Wow.

06:53:06.160 That is so good.

06:53:09.060 Come on.

06:53:09.800 That actually was good.

06:53:10.740 That actually was good.

06:53:14.580 You didn't even give me one.

06:53:17.780 Bella what what?

06:53:19.020 I can't think of any nicknames right now.

06:53:21.020 Bella de la vla.

06:53:21.900 Bella de la vla.

06:53:23.040 No.

06:53:23.680 Instagram?

06:53:25.680 For sure.

06:53:26.360 Share underscore number underscore one underscore on underscore some underscore donated thirty

06:53:32.640 dollars.

06:53:33.800 Self underscore delusion.

06:53:35.760 Paints women as victims in all contexts while dismissing the suffering of men.

06:53:40.820 Men are stronger so can work longer hours.

06:53:44.000 Men objectify women.

06:53:45.780 Psychiatry helps people.

06:53:47.500 Rolling on the floor laughing emoji.

06:53:49.600 Rolling on the floor laughing emoji.

06:53:51.740 Rolling on the floor laughing emoji.

06:53:53.500 Skull emoji.

06:53:54.560 He thinks it's funny.

06:53:56.360 Blarfest donated thirty dollars.

06:53:58.020 Oh Blarfest.

06:53:58.740 What's up man?

06:53:59.100 Jeff Guy brings up a very good point about possible gender pay gaps.

06:54:03.320 What about the gender pay for stuff gap?

06:54:06.760 Okay.

06:54:07.380 To that previous chat I have never and would never dismiss the suffering of men.

06:54:11.780 Like men.

06:54:12.380 Has it been ten?

06:54:12.940 With problems of their own.

06:54:14.660 You unmuted?

06:54:15.480 I don't think women are always victims and I don't think men are never victims.

06:54:19.200 I think.

06:54:19.860 Okay.

06:54:20.240 Pasty George donated thirty dollars.

06:54:23.080 Share one.

06:54:23.540 You wouldn't want your boyfriend to watch rainbows.

06:54:27.380 What if your future boyfriend didn't want you to go out to bars or clubs, have a girl's

06:54:32.660 night or travel abroad with your lady friends?

06:54:36.120 Oh.

06:54:36.760 Pasty George donated thirty dollars.

06:54:39.000 Hold on.

06:54:39.580 Share one.

06:54:39.980 We'll let it go through and then answer the first one first.

06:54:42.280 You seem to have conditions for your future boyfriend and want him to give up things and

06:54:45.140 adhere to your standards.

06:54:47.000 What are you willing to give up for him?

06:54:49.300 Are you willing to meet his?

06:54:50.740 I think the mutual compromise that I would make in my relationship is loyalty.

06:54:55.820 I mean, sorry, like I would like disloyalty.

06:54:58.500 So in my relationship, my man would be loyal to me and I would be loyal to my man, which

06:55:03.360 means neither of us watch Rainbow or whatever.

06:55:07.440 It's fine.

06:55:07.900 It's just going out to a bar or club is not watching people have sex.

06:55:11.660 It's not an act of infidelity.

06:55:15.680 It's probably worse.

06:55:17.940 If you go, if a girl goes to a bar with her girlfriends and doesn't at all cheat or do

06:55:24.240 anything bad or flirt with men at all, that's worse.

06:55:27.840 That'd probably have a stronger negative outcome on the relationship than watching porn.

06:55:33.320 I mean, if I was in a relationship, I'd probably want to go to the club with my boyfriend, more

06:55:36.900 likely.

06:55:37.840 What if he didn't want to go?

06:55:38.800 Okay, then I mean, if he doesn't feel comfortable with me doing that, like I'd be willing to

06:55:44.680 respect that boundary.

06:55:47.100 Okay.

06:55:48.340 Did you want to respond to the points I made about like childcare and whatnot?

06:55:52.520 Yeah, I think actually if both a woman and a man in a relationship pull together their

06:55:56.940 income, they can actually give their child more resources in the future, such as like college

06:56:00.920 education.

06:56:01.400 Like the average person deals with college debt, and I think it would only help, it would

06:56:07.020 only help the child's future to pull together income.

06:56:09.460 Well, even if that's the case, that pooling income would provide future benefits, that

06:56:14.340 doesn't address my argument, which is as it relates to raising the children when they're

06:56:19.540 young, do you?

06:56:20.980 Yeah, I think during the time where it's like really essential to be present, like infanthood

06:56:26.440 and whatever, like a woman should definitely take time off to pay attention to that.

06:56:33.460 Okay.

06:56:34.780 So is it, would it be better then for, if possible, economically, for the woman to stay at home

06:56:43.040 and take care of the children while the man goes out and works?

06:56:46.660 Economically?

06:56:47.060 No, if it's possible economically, is it better for the children?

06:56:52.940 I'm not understanding your question right now.

06:56:55.120 Is it better for the children if the man has the resources to allow for the woman to

06:57:01.540 not have to work, like he's making enough money where she doesn't have to work?

06:57:05.980 Is it better for the children?

06:57:09.340 I mean, in a case where like a man earns enough money to completely cover the child's future

06:57:13.880 and the woman doesn't have to work, I think that works.

06:57:15.700 I'm not even talking necessarily about the future, I'm just saying.

06:57:18.440 Or for the present or whatever.

06:57:19.640 Like if the husband can completely cover the child's financial needs, I think that's great.

06:57:24.960 But I think also what a woman wants to do in her life, if she wants to work, that also

06:57:28.820 counts for something.

06:57:29.920 And you can still like regard the child's future and look out for it and have a career.

06:57:34.360 I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

06:57:35.800 Well, the implication here isn't necessarily if the both parents go out and work, that

06:57:40.900 the child's going to like turn out to be like terrible.

06:57:45.520 That's not the argument.

06:57:46.720 Okay.

06:57:47.060 I'm just saying, I think the most optimal thing would be for one parent to work and for

06:57:53.940 one to take care of the children.

06:57:55.240 Right.

06:57:55.540 But again, what a woman chooses to do with her life should also be taken into account.

06:57:59.680 But I think once you have children, you can't engage in this sort of self-serving, selfish,

06:58:10.460 egotistical, like your desires ought to come secondary to your children.

06:58:16.020 Also, I mean, to like talk about it from my perspective, like I've grown up with two parents

06:58:20.380 who have jobs and I feel like I'm perfectly happy with the way I've been raised.

06:58:25.260 And I would be happy to let my child have the same experience.

06:58:29.040 Yeah.

06:58:29.100 This isn't an indictment of all children who have been raised in households where both

06:58:32.540 parents were working.

06:58:34.220 This isn't to say that all children, they're going to become, no, but it would be optimal.

06:58:39.000 I think it's optimal for one parent to be working, the other to be taking care of the child.

06:58:46.540 Yeah.

06:58:46.840 But it might not be optimal for the woman and her life matters too.

06:58:49.880 Like what she wants, what she wants to pursue in her life.

06:58:53.360 I mean, I'm just taking both things into account.

06:58:56.920 But again, my position would be once you have children, your duty extends beyond your own

06:59:03.500 selfish desires and you ought to put the children first.

06:59:08.140 And like one day when I have a career and I have a child, I will care more about my child

06:59:13.380 than my career because that's a human being who I birthed.

06:59:16.940 But it doesn't mean I'll completely disregard and throw away in my career.

06:59:20.560 Like they're, again, the two things are not like mutually exclusive.

06:59:23.500 Doctors work a lot.

06:59:25.440 I mean, I don't know.

06:59:26.240 It's isn't, isn't it pretty.

06:59:27.400 I mean, I know people who have two doctor parents and they've turned out they've.

06:59:30.920 No, no, no.

06:59:31.360 That's not what I'm saying, but it's a really demanding field.

06:59:33.800 For sure.

06:59:34.220 Yeah.

06:59:34.480 Super demanding.

06:59:35.620 But like eventually, actually, once you have your career like stable, like for what I want

06:59:38.980 to do, you can have.

06:59:39.840 Which will be when, when you're 40?

06:59:41.540 Not when I'm 40.

06:59:42.320 No.

06:59:42.620 By the time I'm in my early thirties.

06:59:45.120 Well, that'd be the start of your career, wouldn't it?

06:59:48.000 Like don't most doctors, I don't know.

06:59:49.880 I mean, you have to go to med school.

06:59:52.000 That takes time.

06:59:53.180 Do residency.

06:59:54.580 That's, and then you have all your student.

06:59:56.720 Actually, I'd probably have my career going by the time I'm 28, just based on.

07:00:00.100 So you'll have your what?

07:00:01.180 My career like started by the time I'm 28.

07:00:03.460 So by the time I'm 30, I should, I'll be good.

07:00:06.880 Like I would want to have my own kind of like private practice where you can actually regulate.

07:00:10.980 28?

07:00:11.280 No, at like 30, in my thirties, when it's time for me to have kids anyway.

07:00:17.640 I don't think most doctors start their own private practice.

07:00:21.020 I could be wrong.

07:00:21.740 I don't know.

07:00:22.660 It depends on the type of doctor, but psychiatry has a much shorter residency.

07:00:25.780 So you're able to like figure that stuff out a lot better.

07:00:29.240 All right.

07:00:29.620 I mean.

07:00:30.720 But again, like I know people who have two doctor parents, especially in the area I live in.

07:00:34.620 Yeah, sure.

07:00:35.040 They can turn out great.

07:00:35.740 They turned out great.

07:00:36.760 Yeah.

07:00:37.080 Like all of them, like there is no difference.

07:00:38.880 Yeah, but I mean, in fact, they have two parents who are able to really support their future and give them all the resources necessary to succeed.

07:00:45.740 Right.

07:00:46.160 But I mean, there's also other confounding variables.

07:00:49.540 Like people who are doctors are probably like way more conscientious and like possess other like really positive traits that are going to benefit the children.

07:00:58.220 And it only makes things better for the child, right?

07:01:01.320 Well, I mean, not to say that women who aren't doctors aren't capable of being like loving parents.

07:01:06.920 They're great mothers too.

07:01:08.260 Right.

07:01:08.440 But again, I'm strictly talking about what's optimal for the children.

07:01:13.020 And to me, just I don't even understand the motivation of you come across a guy, super high earner.

07:01:20.400 Hey, you don't have to work.

07:01:22.220 And I want to work.

07:01:23.420 Okay.

07:01:24.860 Well, you're a feminist boss babe.

07:01:27.080 I don't.

07:01:27.960 It's not about being a feminist boss babe woman.

07:01:30.300 I mean, that is feminism.

07:01:31.120 Like that person said earlier, like, oh, she just wants to be a boss babe and she doesn't care about raising a family.

07:01:35.220 She's going to whatever.

07:01:36.340 I care about raising a family.

07:01:37.740 That's also one of my life goals.

07:01:39.160 No, so I don't, I have no issues with women pursuing careers, wanting to work.

07:01:44.280 But like when presented with these sort of hypothetical scenarios where it's like, okay, well, here's a billion dollars.

07:01:48.780 It's like, I prioritize, like, basically, I prioritize working.

07:01:54.400 I'll give it to people who need it.

07:01:55.360 I'll give it to people who need it.

07:01:56.340 And I'll just be like, I will be kind of disappointed at the fact that I don't get to work and have my own career.

07:02:00.720 But like, ultimately, I'll think about others more than myself.

07:02:03.340 I don't know.

07:02:03.960 I don't think it's fair to call me like a feminist boss babe just because I value having a career.

07:02:08.580 Are you not a feminist?

07:02:11.340 I have my qualms with, like, certain parts of feminism.

07:02:14.360 I mean, you're a feminist.

07:02:16.120 You're a boss babe.

07:02:18.420 It is what it is.

07:02:19.060 That's such a corny term.

07:02:20.120 Like, what's the point in calling me a boss babe?

07:02:21.920 I mean, you want to be a boss babe.

07:02:23.680 It's okay.

07:02:24.300 No.

07:02:24.680 You want to be a boss babe.

07:02:25.360 It's all good.

07:02:27.620 What's a boss babe?

07:02:28.640 What does that even mean?

07:02:31.280 Probably like a woman who overly prioritizes her career over other dynamics.

07:02:35.740 I would care about my children more than I would care about my career.

07:02:38.540 But I would still have both.

07:02:39.620 Yes.

07:02:40.440 Yes.

07:02:40.880 Your child is the most important.

07:02:42.200 If you're a mother, your child is the most important thing to you.

07:02:44.680 Okay.

07:02:44.980 But so if there was, like, evidence presented to you that children tend to fare better if the mom's actually home and, like, doing all of or most of the child rearing, like, this, that would be optimal.

07:02:59.940 The child would be fine either way.

07:03:02.620 Like you said earlier, like, two parents being, like, for example, doctors would have its own benefits for a child.

07:03:08.660 And children who are the children of people with careers still turn out fine.

07:03:14.100 If it is the case that it's...

07:03:15.020 It's not that suboptimal.

07:03:16.680 But if it's the case that it's slightly detrimental, as opposed to if you were just dating a really wealthy guy or whatever...

07:03:23.480 I don't even think it's detrimental.

07:03:25.080 For the mom to pass off the kid to daycare?

07:03:31.580 You don't think that's detrimental?

07:03:33.920 I turned out fine.

07:03:35.060 My friends have parents who work two careers.

07:03:37.100 They turned out fine.

07:03:37.820 Well, hold on.

07:03:38.320 I had a great childhood.

07:03:39.220 It only benefited from both of my parents working.

07:03:41.340 I only have more.

07:03:41.900 Are your parents married?

07:03:42.920 Yes.

07:03:43.320 They're still together?

07:03:44.040 Yes.

07:03:44.560 Okay.

07:03:44.980 So, for example, I think the most optimal scenario for raising children off of career would be two-parent nuclear household.

07:03:54.340 Now, it is the case that you can be raised in a one-parent household and turn out completely fine.

07:04:01.060 Absolutely.

07:04:01.840 Many cases.

07:04:02.800 Yes.

07:04:03.120 Many cases.

07:04:03.940 There's no dispute there.

07:04:05.320 Great.

07:04:05.540 But I would still argue that it would have been optimal if you had a two-parent household.

07:04:12.260 And perhaps people who turned out just fine, maybe they would have been even better.

07:04:17.200 I don't think a child going to daycare at some point is that detrimental to their upbringing.

07:04:21.900 I mean, you're a doctor.

07:04:24.240 That's a really demanding field.

07:04:26.400 I question how much time.

07:04:27.340 And again, at some point, I'm not going to be consumed by work to the same degree.

07:04:30.620 When your child's like 10?

07:04:32.320 You do your hardest work as like a doctor when you're still in the earliest phases of your career.

07:04:38.080 Which is conceivably when around the time you would want to start having-

07:04:42.080 No, that's before that.

07:04:42.940 Well-

07:04:43.440 Like residency, that's what I'm talking about.

07:04:46.820 Okay.

07:04:47.420 But I mean, when do you want to have children?

07:04:49.180 Like 35 or something?

07:04:50.880 Like early to mid-30s, yeah.

07:04:54.140 Okay.

07:04:56.020 Okay.

07:04:58.620 Good talk.

07:04:59.420 We have some chats here coming through.

07:05:01.060 Did this one come through?

07:05:02.420 I don't know.

07:05:02.820 Probably, maybe.

07:05:03.320 Share underscore number underscore one underscore on underscore some underscore donated $30.

07:05:08.760 They're not victims in all contexts.

07:05:09.960 Self-underscore delusion.

07:05:11.620 Men suffer too.

07:05:11.840 Paints women as victims in all contexts while dismissing the suffering of men.

07:05:16.880 Men are stronger so can work longer hours.

07:05:19.800 Men objectify women.

07:05:22.140 Psychiatry helps people.

07:05:23.240 Oh, we already did this one pretty quick.

07:05:24.760 But I just want to say-

07:05:25.380 Justin Martens donated $30.

07:05:28.200 Chair three, four, and five look like an inverted double stuff Oreo where the cookies are thicker than the creme.

07:05:35.440 Wait, can you just put your feet down, please?

07:05:36.960 I was just going to say, as someone who cares about mental health care, I care a lot about men's mental health and suffering.

07:05:43.120 Chair one, when a woman and a man have kids, the parents' wants and needs are no longer a priority, including their dreams, because they have a duty to them and not themselves.

07:05:53.780 Feminism is lying to you.

07:05:57.020 I promise you, I will have my career one day.

07:05:59.540 I will have my kids one day.

07:06:00.780 My career will turn out fine.

07:06:01.940 My kids will turn out fine.

07:06:02.740 Because a woman shouldn't completely base her life based on what might be more optimal for a child, if the child will still turn out fine regardless.

07:06:25.200 That doesn't mean you don't care about your children.

07:06:28.660 So the entailment here is you wish to do that which is less optimal intentionally as it relates to children.

07:06:36.740 I still don't even think it's less optimal.

07:06:39.220 I mean, I can't present to you like a study, but we have pretty good evidence to indicate that-

07:06:48.200 My life only turned out better because my mom also chose to work.

07:06:51.240 Even if there's not a study, like it doesn't, it's just not even common sense to you.

07:06:54.760 Like, yeah, probably better for the woman to like actually be raising young children.

07:07:00.600 What if, like, what if the only way that the parents could fully afford like a solid college education for their child would be if both parents were to work?

07:07:08.560 I think that would lead to a lot more benefits for that child's future.

07:07:11.660 I mean, it would be a trade-off, but first off, that would be 18 years in the future.

07:07:16.240 I think education is one of the most important, like, factors in determining, like, outcome, like, successful outcome for a child.

07:07:23.760 What?

07:07:24.660 I said, I think education is one of the most important factors when it comes to a child's eventual-

07:07:29.660 I mean, the rates of depression among men and women has absolutely skyrocketed.

07:07:34.540 You see, ever since the 1980s, women have been more and more-

07:07:38.240 Actually, women since the 1980s are more likely to go to college than men.

07:07:42.520 For 40 years, more than 40 years, four decades, women have been going to college more than men.

07:07:49.380 So, I mean, this idea that-

07:07:50.880 I noticed that, yeah.

07:07:51.460 Because you go, like, but we have rampant-

07:07:53.980 I'm saying going to college helps you become more successful at life.

07:07:57.180 That's all I meant by that.

07:08:01.000 Possibly, yeah.

07:08:01.740 Yeah, I think it's, like, a pretty big determiner of, like, the kind of job you can get one day, the kind of income you can earn if you have a college degree from a good institution.

07:08:10.580 Hold on.

07:08:10.940 So, is your argument that you need to have both parents working in order for somebody to go to college?

07:08:17.940 No, I'm not saying both parents need to work.

07:08:19.640 If a woman doesn't want to work and she wants to subscribe to the nuclear family thing, that's great.

07:08:24.020 That's fine.

07:08:24.760 She should do that.

07:08:25.340 I'm not saying every woman should go out and pursue a career.

07:08:27.460 If a woman wants to have, like, a traditional lifestyle and be a part of that nuclear family, then that's great and she should do that.

07:08:36.400 I'm not saying all women, like, go be independent, go have a career.

07:08:39.280 I'm just saying women should pursue what works for them and what makes them happy.

07:08:44.020 I don't think that's unreasonable.

07:08:45.200 But once, again, once you have children, there's other considerations in place.

07:08:49.500 Okay, if it were the case that both parents working really just screwed over the child's life and just led to that child being, I'm not saying that's your claim.

07:08:57.300 My claim is that it's optimal.

07:08:59.600 And also, I almost wonder why don't women feel this draw?

07:09:03.400 Like, because the scenario I've presented to you is you're dating, like, a wealthy guy to the point where that's the trade-off.

07:09:13.320 Like, wouldn't that free you up a little bit to not have to work?

07:09:19.980 Again, you keep talking about work as if it's some kind of burden to me.

07:09:23.880 I feel like I've already addressed this and I don't want to sound redundant.

07:09:27.720 You don't think it's a burden to?

07:09:30.640 To have a career? I personally would really like to have a career.

07:09:35.460 Well, I get that you'd like it.

07:09:37.640 And therefore, it doesn't feel like a burden to me.

07:09:41.060 You don't think med school is going to be a complete slog?

07:09:43.660 I want to do it.

07:09:45.180 No, I know, but it's going to be a slog.

07:09:47.100 And I like hard work.

07:09:49.220 Okay.

07:09:50.780 All right.

07:09:51.640 I mean, teach their own, I guess.

07:09:54.740 I'm glad.

07:09:55.400 That's the most important underlying value of everything I'm saying, like, to each their own.

07:09:58.980 Like, she might be saving your life in bed one day.

07:10:02.280 Who knows?

07:10:03.800 She might be saving my life?

07:10:05.940 Yeah, she's a doctor and you're like...

07:10:08.180 Yeah, like, if I can save people...

07:10:09.280 No, she's right.

07:10:09.820 If I can save people's lives one day, that means, like, everything to me.

07:10:14.040 Okay.

07:10:14.300 I mean, again, my position is simply, it's less optimal for the children.

07:10:20.380 You contest that.

07:10:22.360 I don't object to women working.

07:10:24.500 That's totally for it.

07:10:27.520 I think women can actually...

07:10:29.040 It'd be great to have more women, like, doing stuff like cancer research and using...

07:10:33.300 Using, I use this term in the most charitable light possible, exploiting the intellect and

07:10:39.620 genius of women so that we can tackle the issues of, you know, how do we fix or how do

07:10:45.980 we overcome diseases?

07:10:47.660 How do we develop cures for certain illnesses, cancer, et cetera, et cetera?

07:10:52.360 I'd love to see the intellect of women being applied towards that, but...

07:10:55.400 Because women are capable of, like, so much.

07:10:57.500 Like, you mentioned earlier about how, like, more women are in university than men now.

07:11:00.560 And same in, like, med school, it's majority women.

07:11:02.900 I think, like, women have such capabilities when it comes to, like, pretty much, like,

07:11:08.240 most fields, like, intellectual...

07:11:11.440 I'm not saying all women shouldn't work, but I guess my specific scenario where I'm just

07:11:16.620 saying, okay, here's a scenario where you wouldn't have to work and it would be better

07:11:23.240 for your children and it would actually be quite, like...

07:11:27.840 Like, most women are not going to have to...

07:11:29.060 Even if I did work, my children would turn out great and they would reap the benefits

07:11:32.600 of me working as well.

07:11:33.580 Well, I'm going to let the last chats come through, kind of just spinning tires here.

07:11:38.780 So many women infected with feminism are always my life, my dreams, me, me, me.

07:11:45.900 This is one of the reasons why many men are moving away from women, especially feminist-influenced

07:11:51.280 women.

07:11:53.400 Cho XT donated $30.

07:11:56.000 College is broadly useless.

07:11:57.840 Final call if you guys want to get a rest.

07:11:59.380 It's basically paying to infantilize young adults for four years where they learn almost

07:12:03.100 nothing.

07:12:03.520 Degrees have lost meaning.

07:12:05.940 I'd trade my degree for more time with my parents.

07:12:09.640 College is a resource that you probably didn't utilize well enough.

07:12:15.940 Okay.

07:12:18.860 Okay.

07:12:20.260 Final call, guys.

07:12:21.380 Final call if you want to get a chat in.

07:12:22.840 That's the final call.

07:12:23.560 Let me just do the final outros here.

07:12:27.600 Well, I want to thank the wonderful panel tonight for coming on.

07:12:29.940 You guys were super dope.

07:12:31.020 Those of you who made it to the end, Marie is probably back there shooting heroin or something.

07:12:38.200 Won't even join us for the, here, take the fucking red card.

07:12:41.880 Boom.

07:12:42.240 Red carded.

07:12:43.080 Fuck off.

07:12:44.240 So anyways, just kidding.

07:12:45.700 Love you.

07:12:46.140 But actually, just kidding.

07:12:48.740 Okay.

07:12:50.220 Uh-oh.

07:12:51.580 L underscore XT donated $30.

07:12:54.860 Chair 1 is so cooked.

07:12:56.600 She fell for the feminist girl boss mind virus.

07:12:59.880 Get used to be a lonely career with 10 cats.

07:13:03.680 I'm going to have a husband and children one day.

07:13:06.540 So like, I don't.

07:13:06.860 Black Mark Azira donated $30.

07:13:09.880 Brian, you're a beast.

07:13:11.720 A solid 10.

07:13:12.680 All right.

07:13:13.140 Thank you.

07:13:13.620 Appreciate it.

07:13:14.300 Thank you.

07:13:14.800 Thank you.

07:13:15.100 Thank you.

07:13:15.480 All right.

07:13:17.440 Uh, Norbeasy, you're below the threshold.

07:13:20.600 Are you sending this in like Canadian or something?

07:13:23.540 Uh, okay.

07:13:24.620 You're below the threshold, man.

07:13:26.100 And it's a little spicy.

07:13:28.520 It's a little too spicy.

07:13:29.720 What is it?

07:13:30.640 What is it?

07:13:30.900 It's a little too spicy.

07:13:32.120 Wait, put it.

07:13:33.200 It's, we're not going to, it's, it's not going to be red, but I'll show it.

07:13:37.020 Can you like, censor it?

07:13:37.720 I'll just pull it up, whatever.

07:13:39.240 It, it's a display though.

07:13:40.460 It's not, it's not a TTS.

07:13:41.920 So there it is.

07:13:43.320 There it is from Norbeasy.

07:13:45.680 Disavow.

07:13:46.200 I'm going to go ahead and disavow that.

07:13:47.720 Pasty George donated $30, but Tina Arndt, once a famous hardcore feminist, condemned

07:13:54.640 feminism and is now a men's rights advocate.

07:13:57.840 She now speaks out against the lies of feminism.

07:14:02.820 I don't think most major influential feminist figures backtracked on feminism though.

07:14:08.440 Yeah.

07:14:09.380 Good times.

07:14:10.660 Uh, let's see here.

07:14:11.660 Okay.

07:14:11.940 Thank you guys.

07:14:12.820 GG.

07:14:13.520 Well played.

07:14:14.560 Thank you guys.

07:14:15.160 You were, did you want to do the makeup by the way?

07:14:17.000 You wanted to, you're good.

07:14:18.240 Okay.

07:14:18.980 Uh, last call guys, hit the like button, please on your way out.

07:14:23.620 If there's any roast that trickle in, we'll do it.

07:14:26.100 Uh, guys, please stick around for the end of the stream because once we, you know, take

07:14:30.480 it off live, I want you guys to leave a nice comment, leave a nice comment.

07:14:34.260 Once the live ends, it takes about 30 seconds after we end the live.

07:14:37.960 I read them.

07:14:39.080 Positivity is nice.

07:14:39.900 Helps the algorithm.

07:14:40.860 Thank you guys for tuning in tonight.

07:14:42.300 You could have been anywhere, anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.

07:14:47.420 I appreciate that.

07:14:48.680 Thank you to the wonderful panel.

07:14:50.500 Thank you guys.

07:14:51.280 You guys were all dope.

07:14:52.820 Um, thank you.

07:14:55.460 You guys are sweet.

07:14:56.540 So, so amazing.

07:14:58.340 Loved you guys.

07:14:59.060 You guys were, it was a fun show.

07:15:00.220 It was a fun panel.

07:15:01.060 I liked it.

07:15:01.560 Um, thank you to everyone who super chats, donates and supports the show.

07:15:06.640 We couldn't do it without you guys.

07:15:08.060 Thank you.

07:15:08.340 Thank you.

07:15:09.000 We will be live again Sunday or actually, you know what guys, if you guys don't know,

07:15:12.720 I've been doing whatever Wednesdays where it's just me and I sit down while I'm going

07:15:18.600 to maybe just bring on like one other person.

07:15:20.200 So maybe Felicity will do it this Wednesday.

07:15:21.900 We'll see schedule permitting, but whatever Wednesday is three, 4 PM.

07:15:26.740 I go around live around then I just shoot the shit with you guys.

07:15:31.260 Then we'll be live again with another dating talk though.

07:15:33.520 Sunday, 5 PM Pacific.

07:15:34.500 Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram.

07:15:37.360 If you can make it to Santa Barbara, Oh sevens in the chat.

07:15:40.040 I'm trying to think if there's any final things here, uh, who, yeah, I know, no, no, stay

07:15:54.100 back there.

07:15:55.000 You're in a timeout fucking timeout.

07:15:58.640 Oh boy.

07:15:59.920 It's a, it's actually daycare here, by the way, guys, we were talking about daycare at

07:16:04.260 the end.

07:16:04.700 I run a adult daycare.

07:16:07.040 I run an adult daycare.

07:16:09.040 I have punishments, the little fucking hat.

07:16:12.060 I got cards, you know, yellow card, red card, applesauce in case they get a little fussy.

07:16:18.060 In case the girls get a little fussy, we get, we give them some, huh?

07:16:22.560 I want to pay, you know what?

07:16:24.120 I want to do a wholesome thing.

07:16:25.460 I want to give everybody a compliment at the end of the show.

07:16:29.540 Okay.

07:16:32.640 Best eyebrows I've ever seen.

07:16:34.260 Um, I like your, Hey, chill out.

07:16:38.120 No, what the, come on.

07:16:39.420 That was like a callback humor.

07:16:41.000 Oh, uh, I like your teeth.

07:16:43.080 Oh, thank you.

07:16:43.900 You have nice teeth.

07:16:45.180 I like your hair.

07:16:46.380 Oh, thank you.

07:16:47.320 It's very creative and you're a hairstylist.

07:16:50.100 So I like your necklace and you probably have, can we, you probably have a killer double bicep.

07:16:58.400 You look like you work out.

07:16:59.380 Yes.

07:17:00.040 She's ripped.

07:17:00.540 This is a killer.

07:17:01.320 She's ripped.

07:17:02.220 Uh, what?

07:17:03.080 Ice.

07:17:04.200 Do you lift?

07:17:05.620 I, I do.

07:17:06.620 Yes.

07:17:06.800 Okay.

07:17:07.280 Well, you're doing a good job.

07:17:08.820 You got, you got the double biceps.

07:17:11.200 Don't mess with her guys.

07:17:12.320 Don't mess with her.

07:17:12.980 Um, and, uh, you sleeping beauty, I love it.

07:17:22.420 Sleeping beauty, sleeping beauty, pretty fun.

07:17:25.020 And then, uh, Bellington, I think she, she, she, uh, disappeared.

07:17:29.620 Uh, Felicity, you are so good at putting makeup on.

07:17:34.940 You were just, you know what the, the Russian, sorry, Prussian, Prussian, Prussian World War

07:17:41.680 One helmet really brings out the color of your eyes.

07:17:45.500 You're welcome.

07:17:46.360 All right.

07:17:46.840 There it is.

07:17:48.320 Compliments.

07:17:48.800 I don't know if they were any good, but like to say something nice.

07:17:51.400 So guys, we're wrapping the stream.

07:17:53.940 Leave a nice comment for me, for any of the panelists, whatever.

07:17:56.960 Leave a nice comment.

07:17:57.820 Helps with the algo.

07:17:58.500 Okay.

07:17:59.280 Are we, are we forgetting something?

07:18:02.100 Let me just, okay.

07:18:03.200 We have one that just came through.

07:18:06.180 That should be the last one.

07:18:07.160 Pasty George donated $30.

07:18:09.360 I want to thank the panelists for attending the podcast and to our host, Brian.

07:18:14.860 Respect to the women who removed their makeup.

07:18:17.840 Thank you all and good night.

07:18:19.800 Yo, Pasty.

07:18:20.320 Thank you very much, man.

07:18:21.440 Yo, Troy.

07:18:22.300 Thank you for the 10 on Venmo.

07:18:23.520 Really appreciate it.

07:18:24.640 All right, guys.

07:18:25.380 07's in the chat.

07:18:26.480 07's in the chat.

07:18:27.640 We will see you guys next time.

07:18:29.780 I hope you guys have a good night.

07:18:31.140 And I'll see you guys later.

07:18:32.320 Bye.

07:18:32.440 Good night, guys.

07:18:33.200 Good night.

Whatever Podcast - October 06, 2025

DEBATE w⧸ WOKE Feminist College Girls! Charlie Kirk HATER？! ANTI-TRAD Boss Babe？! ｜ Dating Talk #263

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