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00:04:04.240 the whatever channel with that said and without further ado we're gonna have the guests introduce

00:04:10.240 themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead hi i'm natalia taylor i'm 27

00:04:18.000 i'm from the coachella valley and i'm a traditional model and a cashier at a gift shop what so what's a

00:04:24.800 traditional model so i have a modeling agency in la i'm not an of model or an instagram model like you

00:04:33.360 do actual actual modeling traditional modeling traditional modeling so do you have beef with

00:04:39.440 girls who like do that other kind of modeling who claim to be models is that no no i just thought

00:04:44.960 it would be important to distinguish that make a distinction yeah it's fair it's fair because we

00:04:48.800 got two two of girls at the panel today so do you guys take any coral with with the distinction she

00:04:56.480 chooses to make you guys aren't real models uh i mean i don't i'm not offended by that

00:05:01.760 she's putting the word to say they're non-traditional 18 plus big air quotes here on the model part but

00:05:11.680 okay um okay when you say um traditional model can you can you maybe help us out there what kind of

00:05:18.640 traditional already yeah so like i do uh well they call it like uh it's gonna be the top like fashion the

00:05:27.520 third one down third one down they they well print is basically it's considered runway and

00:05:32.320 print stuff too but yeah i recently was in a runway show her first one which is really exciting yeah

00:05:37.600 it makes sense it makes sense well i am i'm five foot ten so yeah yeah pretty tall so you're not

00:05:43.360 so you're not doing things like lingerie modeling that kind of thing uh not at this point are you

00:05:49.360 gonna expand into something like that you think i would have to be really particular about like the

00:05:54.320 lingerie brand if i was like offered you know to do something for like um like rihanna's lingerie

00:06:01.600 or you know even victoria's secret nowadays i would consider it okay thank you what about you

00:06:08.160 my name is nicole i'm 24 years old and i live in huntington beach um i am a freelance makeup artist

00:06:17.120 for a brand called it cosmetics and ysl beauty as well and she's also my best friend

00:06:22.240 oh okay and uh where are you from um i'm originally from palm springs but i live in huntington beach

00:06:29.200 now all right cool uh i'm demi hawks i'm 24 and i live in los angeles and i'm a porn star welcome

00:06:37.760 back thank you hi i'm ali hardesty i'm 27 i live in huntington beach and i'm a youtuber slash of model

00:06:45.920 welcome very good my name is aspen i live in eastern washington i'm 28 years old and i work

00:06:54.880 as an emergency nurse and i do international disaster response nursing and then i work at a pro-life um

00:07:02.720 crisis pregnancy center all right can we have you scoot into the table just a tad uh gustavo what about

00:07:08.400 you gustavo buenos tardes oh wait that's italian uh how do you say how do you say

00:07:24.640 okay there's gonna be a language barrier here i'm just gonna move on okay what about you uh i'm morgan i'm

00:07:30.560 28 i am from the bay area i am in bartending and recently joined the lash community so lash teching

00:07:39.440 and x only fans oh did not know that um okay x used to do of was it what kind of content were you

00:07:49.520 making on the left solo okay you never did bg content okay and just to give credit where credit is due

00:07:56.400 i will say your podcast did help solidify that decision oh my god oh oh look at that

00:08:06.000 i was already like getting out of it but after coming into contact with the podcast it definitely

00:08:11.760 you're welcome how long did you do it for i'm um it was really on and off but i'd say i would do it

00:08:18.320 sporadically for months at a time and then i kind of get sick of it uh on and off for about

00:08:23.120 two years okay maddie what about you my name is madison i'm 19 years old i'm from san diego but i

00:08:33.680 currently live in santa barbara i work for the whatever podcast and i'm a student at santa

00:08:39.280 barbara city college studying communications all right welcome everybody and then last but not least

00:08:47.120 the great debate god my caucasian andrew wilson take it away yeah my name is andrew wilson i am the

00:08:57.040 host of the one and only crucible fastest growing debate channel on the internet to my knowledge

00:09:02.400 i'm a political satirist i do political commentary and i'm also a blood sport debater

00:09:07.200 um and i work as a uh by trade as a robotics engineer okay welcome andrew appreciate it uh

00:09:18.640 glad to uh have you back congrats man one million you did it we did it you did it we did it now andrew

00:09:26.640 you were uh you got into a bit of i don't know if you want to talk about it uh you had a beef

00:09:33.280 in in miami in florida do you want to talk about it or not really you had a beef oh with um with mr

00:09:40.640 roid rage yeah i remember that so um actually we were kind of surprised by that the um the panel

00:09:48.960 itself we weren't exactly sure what the format of it was going to be um i'm not really sure that

00:09:54.480 they knew exactly what the format was going to be so um when we were we were kind of told hey we're

00:10:01.600 just going to talk about kind of what our different viewpoints are as far as success goes and it was

00:10:06.320 it was kind of funny because um i was talking with walter before it started and walter was like you

00:10:12.240 know the the best thing about having you on is your adversarial nature he's like so don't lose that on

00:10:16.560 the panel and i was like well okay i won't lose the adversarial nature on the panel i promise so

00:10:22.160 but he wasn't expecting it to go like that either did you guys squash it behind the scenes like is it

00:10:27.360 is it good or are you guys still kind of beefing uh well i mean i don't have um i don't like ongoing

00:10:35.120 beefs they're not very productive yeah and i don't think that uh wes watson is uh you know particularly

00:10:41.680 inclined so i'm sure i'm sure i'll do a show discussing it i haven't even done a show discussing

00:10:46.400 that yet okay um sure and then other than that like i'm not looking for any kind of long-term problem

00:10:51.680 with the guy he was just kind of a roided out blowhard but what what got me what was interesting

00:10:57.680 about it is he was triggered so quickly by so little and um it drew a contrast but one of the

00:11:05.040 things that kind of made i think the uh the manosphere look bad and the red kind of the red pill look bad

00:11:10.240 and the reason they were so upset with him is because he looked like a caricature of what the basically

00:11:15.840 the opponents of the red pills say right these guys are just a bunch of materialist

00:11:20.400 righted out uh woman bashing lunatics that's essentially what um you know what the what the

00:11:27.200 people in opposition to the red pill manosphere say and this guy ended up becoming kind of a

00:11:31.760 caricature for that so it didn't go over very well for him but yeah we were actually kind of surprised

00:11:36.560 at how much he freaked out and how much of a slave to his emotions he was so yeah good times good

00:11:43.040 times did you shave your arms i uh i did not shave my arms that was the i couldn't believe that the

00:11:49.440 guy said it was a call to action he just gave your arms i was like what then jim bob of course said

00:11:55.040 shave his arms he's a man why would he shave his arms anyways uh so we're going to go around the

00:12:00.640 table once more so what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking

00:12:05.680 stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem

00:12:10.400 whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship

00:12:14.880 you've ever been in starting with you go ahead i'm married i've been married for two and a half years

00:12:20.480 now and i've been with my husband for i believe eight years now so yeah that's the longest relationship

00:12:28.640 i've ever been in thank you how old did you say you are i'm 27 all right so you said you were married

00:12:34.400 for two years yep and but you've been together for eight years total yep okay and consecutively like

00:12:42.480 there weren't any on again off again there weren't any breaks there weren't any breaks okay wow okay

00:12:47.440 so from basically 19 to now at 27 you've been together uh maybe it was 20 yeah i'm trying to

00:12:56.720 do the math in my head we met in 2017 so i thought that was eight years maybe it's seven but yeah okay

00:13:03.120 all right and never broke up always together no and i'm very happily married can confirm i've known them

00:13:09.360 both a long time shout out to that's um that's great good for you thank you and uh it's rare for

00:13:17.280 whatever podcast to hear from someone who's actually in a healthy

00:13:26.320 well ongoing relationship that's never okay brian that's kind of like a huge reason that i'm here

00:13:31.040 because you know my friend ally she's been on the podcast before and she thought you know it might be

00:13:36.000 interesting to have you on because it's a little bit different than what you guys normally do

00:13:40.000 and just to let you know no offense no offense but i've never seen the show so i have no idea i have

00:13:47.120 no idea like just watch i watched a few clips and and so yeah i can't wait to contribute what my

00:13:53.360 experiences are and my opinions rock and roll rock and roll what about you um i'm in a relationship

00:13:59.120 with my boyfriend his name is will we've been together for four years um and that's my longest

00:14:05.440 relationship that i've been how did you guys meet um well i used to date his best friend a long time

00:14:12.960 ago i was in high school um okay so yeah i dated his friend and we broke up um him and i stayed in

00:14:21.200 contact for about three years and then um i think at a certain point we kind of got a crush on each other

00:14:28.080 and he actually went the right route he spoke to him before anything happened and he got his

00:14:33.520 blessing so yeah but he was an asshole so honestly the ex the ex he was a complete

00:14:40.720 asshole he's still is so what would have happened if he didn't get his blessing i was just thinking

00:14:44.720 that i don't think we would have continued i mean it would really yeah we would have stopped right

00:14:48.640 there yeah are they still friends no the two guys no they're not but it is uh were they best

00:14:56.480 friends or just friends they were best friends but they did like grow in completely opposite directions

00:15:02.000 i think that wait question did they stop being friends after you got with the new guy your current

00:15:11.520 boyfriend yes huh it could just be a coincidence okay so when he um told him about like i think i like

00:15:21.200 nicole or whatever like would you mind if i you know pursued that he actually said dude if you

00:15:28.080 guys get married i'll be the best man at your wedding i don't even care and i'm actually glad

00:15:31.680 you said that because i actually hooked up with this girl that you were seeing and so i'm glad like

00:15:38.000 he put that on the table so he wasn't a really good friend he grew in a completely different direction

00:15:43.520 so i don't think they would have been friends regardless at least i hope not because

00:15:47.200 my boyfriend like grew into this amazing person and i think that he's um will is so great he's

00:15:53.440 grown a lot since we've been together and i don't think that that relationship would be compatible

00:15:58.800 anymore like that friendship okay what about you i'm still single still single single but loving it

00:16:06.720 in my on the streets you're loving it yeah on the streets i've been uh i've been single since

00:16:12.560 january like mid to end of january and yeah it's been good i've never like been single for long

00:16:20.480 stretches of time this is the longest period of time i've ever been single in my life really

00:16:25.280 yeah why why do you think that is

00:16:29.280 i'm a lover girl i like guys just lock me down wait you're a what girl i'm a lover girl

00:16:34.960 you're a lover girl i can't say that how long was your longest uh uh seven years wow how long are

00:16:45.120 you i'm 24 24 okay so you're a lover girl and so not anymore are there any guys in the picture

00:16:55.680 there's there's like some guys that i'm you know kind of going on dates i'm not trying to i'm not

00:17:01.120 trying to be in a relationship with anybody like i like going on you know dates here and there i've

00:17:07.040 definitely been like hooking up with people but i'm making it very clear like i just want to have

00:17:11.920 fun i don't want to be locked down does lover does lover girl kind of mean like um like promiscuous

00:17:18.960 is that is that what you um i guess i meant it in like oh that i'm like sappy and i get kind of like

00:17:23.760 pulled into like like a romantic yeah i get kind of romantic and i'm not being like that so much

00:17:29.440 anymore

00:17:34.240 you said that there's a couple guys in the picture there are although so you have you got a roster

00:17:39.600 i'm trying to build a roster and it's like i'm building it this is my plan but it's kind of

00:17:45.040 difficult because i'm very busy and i only hook up with other guys in the in the porn industry part

00:17:51.040 of that is like the testing bubble and all that that i worry about so they're busy and i'm busy

00:17:56.240 and then it's kind of hard to maintain this roster that i'm building and so the roster does does the

00:18:01.600 roster consist of only guys in the industry yeah and how many so what how what's the roster looking

00:18:09.040 like currently two three guys oh it's sad yeah maybe two or three it's sad because there's too few

00:18:15.360 yeah i feel like it should be like pokemon like gotta catch them all you want like 10 yeah

00:18:19.280 it's guys that you're interested in or guys that you're like actively sleeping with and

00:18:22.960 into the mic you can scoot into the table you can scoot into the table too it's guys that i like

00:18:26.960 spending time with i like sleeping with them i'm not interested in pursuing a relationship right now

00:18:32.160 i've just like like i said i've kind of been locked down like my whole life definitely my whole adult life

00:18:37.280 and that was like i just wanted to experience being single and being free and i had some bad

00:18:44.320 relationships i made really bad choices about the men like that i got into relationships with so

00:18:50.080 i'm just kind of like um if you don't mind me uh me following up when you say that you've been locked

00:18:55.360 down most of your adult life how old are you 24. so your adult life has been five years six years yeah wait

00:19:05.040 yeah yeah six years oh i mean it's not really how many different lockdowns did you have in that six

00:19:14.000 year period i had two long-term relationships were they both about three well i had one like that i

00:19:20.000 like i met a guy in high school and we were together through high school and then through

00:19:25.680 till i was like 20 21 and then or 22 and then i was in a relationship for two years with another guy

00:19:32.080 were you in the porn industry while you were in a relationship and did he mind or um no honestly

00:19:40.400 like that's not why we broke out it was like others well kind of from my perspective uh because

00:19:47.120 he saw how much money i was making in porn and was like well i don't want to work and that started to

00:19:51.680 bother me yeah wait that that bothered you a little bit just like there were there were a lot of other

00:19:59.840 things going on in that relationship and we were just like we were spending less time to ask you

00:20:04.240 a question on that if you were dating a billionaire and your earning potential was like 40 000 a year

00:20:10.080 wouldn't it be like make sense for like you to not work a nine-to-five while dating a billionaire

00:20:14.960 and like for him it's like a penny basically i think that might make sense but i think he

00:20:20.240 or whoever you know i was dating and this is sort of what happened was he might get bored if i'm just

00:20:25.040 don't have an ambition and what what happened was like like you can definitely like do other

00:20:31.440 things besides work and be an ambitious and interesting person or you can decide oh i'm

00:20:36.480 not going to work i'm going to play video games all day i'm not going to be an interesting or ambitious

00:20:40.880 person okay and that was kind of well i mean i don't i don't understand though if let's just say that

00:20:48.800 this guy should probably get additional points right away because by your own admission you're

00:20:54.480 a prostitute right no no hold on well if you're a porn star prostitution there's a difference there's

00:21:00.960 a difference what's it what's the difference one is being filmed yeah one is being filmed it's like

00:21:08.320 what i do is so the difference between prostitution and pornography is that other people can jerk off to

00:21:13.840 it i think though that because i'm in the mainstream i just no no i want to be clear i

00:21:18.400 want this question answered what is the difference between prostitution and pornography i'm actually

00:21:23.520 not clear on this point prostitution is a lot less regulated i would say it's a lot less like

00:21:30.080 like when i walk into like a professional porn studio set it's very like there's prostitutes who

00:21:35.440 are regulated if you go to nevada there's all sorts of regulations which they impose on their

00:21:39.840 prostitutes uh and that includes testing that includes all sorts of different things they have

00:21:45.040 professional brothels they're still prostitutes why would you make the distinguishment between

00:21:50.160 prostitution and pornography it's prostitution i think for the sake of the argument you're about

00:21:54.880 to make so i'll let you get there like you're right i'll let you have that point and let the let

00:21:59.840 you make the rest of your case although i will say like industry wise like it's just like it's two

00:22:04.880 different kind of experiences i won't say like oh one's better than the other and one's

00:22:09.040 safer or cleaner or like just in the sake of this argument like fine if you want to say like

00:22:15.440 i i fuck for money therefore i'm a prostitute well what else would you be a porn star a porn star

00:22:22.240 well okay but this is a there's an it's a non-semantic distinction so if you say

00:22:28.160 people who have sexual intercourse for money are prostitutes and you're having sexual intercourse

00:22:33.760 for money this would make you a what that would make me a prostitute that would make you a

00:22:38.560 prostitute so unless you can give me a semantic distinction something which actually creates a

00:22:43.760 delineation obviously prostitutes can have sex on on camera as well as not on camera they would still

00:22:49.520 be prostitutes what would the actual distinct distinction between the two be i honestly i wouldn't

00:22:55.760 say that i'm a prostitute or i'm an escort because i'm not and i don't want to like take

00:23:00.400 i don't know like i don't want to take away from girls who do it's kind of like the distinction

00:23:06.640 between like well it's it's the distinction between porn and content creation like yeah

00:23:14.960 is it prostitution stolen valor like i don't want to take away from the valor of the prostitutes uh as i

00:23:22.240 engage in the same exact type of sexual act i don't get it like what can you can you make an actual

00:23:26.720 distinction between the two for me it's definitely it's not the same exact thing when i walk onto a

00:23:33.760 set i have like there's a script there's a call sheet there's a specific studio or company it's

00:23:39.360 man yeah it's managed very differently than like walking into a date with like well i mean couldn't

00:23:45.520 a guy hire a prostitute and then have a script for her to read when she came in because you know it made

00:23:51.200 him happy uh i don't i don't understand what is the actual what is the actual semantic distinction

00:23:58.000 it seems like the talent you're a prostitute who gets paid to have sex on camera or you're a

00:24:02.640 prostitute who does not get paid to have sex on camera if you can actually give me a delineation

00:24:07.440 that makes sense i'm willing to accept it so the person i'm having sex with on camera is not the

00:24:13.200 person who's paying me and they're also being paid to have sex on camera correct me if i'm wrong and i'm

00:24:18.640 not wait wait hang on hang on so i could i could also hire two prostitutes to have sex and pay them

00:24:24.480 both even though i don't have sex with either of them correct yeah and then you're creating

00:24:28.880 an amateur porno i guess if you want to put it somewhere well no i mean i could hire two prostitutes

00:24:35.840 they could have sex with each other and i could never have sex with either of them they would

00:24:39.920 definitely be engaged in prostitution right yeah so what's the so i still need a distinction from

00:24:47.920 you because everything you say it sounds like you could the prostitute does the same exact thing

00:24:52.000 it's the it's the combination of things like like i said like it is that i'm being paid to have sex and

00:24:57.680 the person who's having sex with me is being paid there's a company that's like funding it like a big

00:25:02.720 there's two prostitutes being paid uh let me ask you would you say it that you consider it more of

00:25:08.080 entertainment because it is filmed and as a as a poor as opposed to prostitution it's adult

00:25:16.080 entertainment i think though like prostitution is also like entertaining to the person being

00:25:22.160 entertained exactly so what was the what was the point you were going with this because i

00:25:27.280 well my point is is that uh i guess to to bring it back around um if you if you can't give me an

00:25:33.600 actual distinction between what a would actually be a delineation between prostitution and being a porn

00:25:39.440 star because they're both just prostitution as far as far as i'm aware uh again willing to be corrected

00:25:45.360 but the point i was making was that shouldn't this guy kind of get additional bonus points for

00:25:51.520 the fact that he's with a prostitute willingly if she's making a ton of cash and he's with her

00:25:58.720 willingly like isn't isn't that kind of bonus points for him like from your perspective well if he's just

00:26:04.320 using her it's kind of like he would be almost acting as like a pimp in that way where he's yeah

00:26:10.480 like that's not how i want my personal relationship because he's using letting her make money if we're going

00:26:19.520 with a prostitution angle he's just like laying back doing nothing and letting her make money for

00:26:26.480 him as well for the prostitution or the porn okay but i i let me let me test this for you or test the

00:26:34.320 logic here and you can tell me where i get this wrong you're let's assume for a second you're engaged

00:26:39.520 in prostitution and then you meet a guy and you end up with this guy and you continue to be engaged in

00:26:47.280 prostitution how in the world would he be the pimp you were already you were already a prostitute

00:26:54.400 like now he's just he's with you and you're still doing the same thing you were doing before

00:26:58.640 how because he's collecting the money yeah we have this term in the industry it's kind of a jokey term

00:27:03.440 but we call them a suitcase pimp you know who a guy who usually lives off the the income of their

00:27:10.480 girlfriend or their wife and they just kind of don't contribute in other ways i mean yeah

00:27:18.960 we would we kind of call that a suitcase pimp it's not a full-on

00:27:22.800 pimp but it is it is creating a situation where again i want to make sure you get this right inside

00:27:28.240 of the industry where you're definitely not a prostitute boyfriends who take the money from

00:27:32.720 the girls are called pimps but definitely not prostitution in any way shape or form right

00:27:37.040 i think you're confusing prostitution with sex work in which case like you are correct sex work

00:27:42.640 is like this blanket term where like you engage well you call boyfriends of of these porn stars

00:27:48.880 pimps pimps are associated with what what are they associated with sex work prostitutes that what

00:27:57.440 do you mean sex where they're associated with we live we live in a new age where where there's so

00:28:02.400 many different hey there's a hooker in the back if you want her they don't go here i got a sex worker

00:28:06.560 for you the point is because you were asking about the guy and like why she didn't want to be with him

00:28:11.760 it's i just said pimp because going along with the prostitute scenario i guess she didn't want

00:28:18.080 to be with the guy because he had no ambition of his own and he just wanted her to basically go out

00:28:24.160 and be the breadwinner film porn yeah and live off of her income and you know have no but i don't

00:28:29.840 understand if he is willing to look past that right if he's willing to look past the prostitution

00:28:34.560 what if he was just using to brian's to brian's point well then this this could operate the the

00:28:39.840 exact opposite way too right you would say that women then who are with men who make a lot of money

00:28:45.520 are just using them sometimes yeah yeah but in i mean you would say at least it's a case by case though

00:28:53.040 right yeah and i'm saying in my case yeah like that guy got boring and kind of mean and very

00:28:59.600 ambitious less and you know no amount of other so-called bonus points would you know make up for

00:29:05.040 that it's just not what i wanted in my life it just wasn't working yeah right i'm but but i guess my

00:29:11.760 point is is do you give extra points to somebody because they're willing to be with a prostitute

00:29:18.400 no because because if somebody is willing to be with me then they already have like those points

00:29:23.600 you know what i mean like anybody i would date anybody who i interact with in my personal life

00:29:28.720 like they are okay with that or i never interact with them so like to me that's kind of just like

00:29:34.960 a given that you know like it's not like oh this boyfriend better than that boyfriend because that

00:29:40.080 boyfriend was like okay with me doing my job it's like i i really only date guys who are okay with me

00:29:45.680 doing my job would you prefer a man who told you that he didn't want you to engage in prostitution

00:29:52.320 anymore no absolutely not that's why i love being single nobody's telling me what to do yeah yeah so

00:29:58.720 if that's if that's the case then he could never be a pimp if he's with you in spite of the fact that

00:30:04.080 you're a prostitute because you wouldn't want him to tell you not to be anyway right i don't think

00:30:08.400 it mattered what my job is i think it was just that i was working a ton and making a lot of money

00:30:13.360 and he just fell off because of that andrew i do need to move it on do you have a final do you have

00:30:19.920 a final no no no we're good you had something go ahead oh no i already you're good okay uh really

00:30:26.080 quick just to wrap up on the relationship status you said you currently have three people on your

00:30:30.400 roster yeah and these are all people who work in the industry is that correct yeah that's correct

00:30:37.040 okay what's the most you've ever had on a roster three this is my this is my first time being single

00:30:45.520 it's my first time doing the roster thing so okay yeah and so you're like seeing each of these guys

00:30:52.080 once a week twice a week i wish like once a month twice a month and that's just scheduling and kind of

00:30:59.680 just me like sometimes i'll make plans to hang out and then i i'm too tired okay what about you i am

00:31:06.160 happily single i've been single for exactly 20 days now and i believe my longest relationship

00:31:13.120 was about three years i've had a couple of those how long was the one that ended 20 days ago it was

00:31:18.960 two months but we were best friends for two years so things moved really quickly for that two year

00:31:24.960 period that you were friends was there any sexual involvement we're strictly platonic we met in an orgy

00:31:31.360 but we didn't have sex we didn't have sex we just we interacted we didn't swap fully

00:31:37.840 and then we just were platonic friends so when you say orgy um are you like do you consider yourself a

00:31:42.560 swinger uh i think at that time there was a little bit of that but it was just with um my partner and

00:31:48.800 then it was like the other couple which so you would go to orgies with your boyfriend at the time

00:31:53.120 yes so to be clear he wasn't my boyfriend but he was my long-term friends of benefits situation

00:31:58.080 guy how long were you in that three years like two years you were in an open

00:32:05.680 situationship for two years yeah basically yeah like on and off okay and you met your most recent

00:32:11.520 guy who you dated for a couple months at an orgy while you were at said orgy with your two-year

00:32:18.080 situationship they were roommates yes hold on just to be clear to be clear the guy that you broke up

00:32:25.040 with or that you guys broke up uh 20 days ago who you were dating for two two months was it two three

00:32:32.320 months he was roommates with your two-year situationship yeah they weren't roommates anymore

00:32:40.080 but that's when i met him at the time they were at the time when you met him in the orgy they were in

00:32:46.320 the orgy it was at their house yes okay trying to keep track i guess it was to be technical a foursome

00:32:53.040 that we did not swap in and so he was the other person like the other guy okay so wait you met him

00:33:01.440 during an orgy yes well i met him a foursome or an orgy it was a foursome is that an orgy i'm not

00:33:06.800 really sure i don't i don't know there was four people no one swapped fully i'll know if we were

00:33:12.240 interacting do we need to get the requirement down for how many people it takes for it to be an orgy

00:33:16.320 it was more than three i consider that an orgy but maybe it's not more than three okay i'm 27

00:33:22.800 so i was 25 at the time uh so you were so you were you were in an orgy and uh and then you met

00:33:28.800 you met this guy well i guess i knew him prior to that but just like that's when we really got close

00:33:33.280 and i got to know him were they like high-fiving over your head or something like that

00:33:38.080 it's okay you were you broke up 20 days ago who broke up with who i broke up with him why

00:33:47.760 uh there's a few reasons it was a little similar to what she was talking about i do only fans and

00:33:55.040 he was really comfortable just like kind of living at my place using my car and um we were at coachella

00:34:01.440 and um some things had happened there and he was like with another girl he told her we were in

00:34:08.960 an open relationship which we weren't we were completely monogamous when we got together and then when

00:34:14.560 i broke up with him he vandalized my car good times i sure know how to pick them uh so he was he

00:34:23.920 had nothing going for him he was living at your place i'm not gonna say he had nothing going for

00:34:27.840 him but i i am not shallow i wasn't gonna break up with him from like just lack of ambition alone

00:34:34.480 so it really took him kind of like being sneaky weird like because i always thought he was so loyal

00:34:41.840 and that's why i was with him i was like oh he treats me so good he's so sweet and then when i

00:34:46.000 started to realize that he was maybe not doing that i was like i'm out but you met him at a force

00:34:50.720 right you met him yeah but that was two years ago we weren't together then okay

00:34:54.000 but somebody who's somebody who has an inclination towards that kind of so uh sexual conduct is

00:35:02.560 probably not the best bet for like well down the road i'm gonna have a monogamous relationship with

00:35:08.320 this person i think that like with certain people you could like choose to be poly and then other

00:35:12.640 people you choose to be in a committed relationship so i disagree well well hang on so if you don't mind

00:35:18.560 if i ask a few questions here sure yeah can i give you a scenario sure let us imagine for a moment

00:35:24.720 that this relationship that you had with this gentleman worked out and you're 35 years old

00:35:30.640 and you're sitting around with uh little stephanie your daughter and she says mommy how'd you meet daddy

00:35:36.800 and you're like well we were at a fucking gangbang and uh you know there was uh there was body fluids

00:35:42.400 going all over the place yeah and uh they high-fived over my head and i knew then your dad was the one

00:35:48.160 for me like does that sound like maybe maybe if you think about that in the future that future

00:35:55.040 conversation does that maybe produce red flags in your head i thought it was cute like a love story

00:36:01.200 you know i mean we didn't have to tell our kid that per se we could just say we met like for mutual

00:36:05.840 friends that's not a lie yeah that's true like it's not like i was the first time meeting him but

00:36:12.880 like i had met him pretty recent before that so yeah good times well i mean but you would have to

00:36:22.800 then lie to your kids right i would be honest then i don't really have a problem yeah you'd be honest

00:36:28.080 right yeah i mean i'm gonna have to be honest about me doing only fans like all sorts of things so

00:36:32.800 yeah i'm not a liar i'm not but i mean would it would it make you uncomfortable to have that

00:36:37.680 conversation at 35 with little stephanie it with the origin story of how i met your father was at

00:36:44.320 a gangbang i mean i think like you know when people become a certain age you're gonna have

00:36:49.120 the conversation about the birds and the bees and stuff like that anyways i don't think when they

00:36:53.680 you know are like a newborn baby or like a toddler i need to like necessarily be sharing those details

00:36:59.360 no but i mean even 12 13 right something in there when kids are starting to go through puberty and

00:37:05.680 they become curious about that type of thing you know what i mean and they're asking about it would

00:37:11.200 you feel any shame at all telling that story to little stephanie i think that they could learn from

00:37:17.760 my experiences both negative and positive and i could teach them about safe sex and you know times where

00:37:23.760 maybe like i wasn't being that safe and so say a safe way to do an orgy that's what you want to

00:37:29.200 teach little stephanie wait sorry two people are talking i was asking what if somebody else told

00:37:34.160 stephanie that story how would you feel about about how you met him i'm not really ashamed of it honestly

00:37:40.480 it is what it is i was also like there were boundaries and like we became very very close friends

00:37:48.240 before we ever got together and at the time i was just with that partner who i was like experimenting

00:37:54.080 and doing those things with is he still friends with the guy like they already weren't friends

00:37:58.080 before that happened oh they were just roommates okay well they were friends at the time but they

00:38:01.360 fell out like long before we got together okay so you ended it 20 days ago uh has there been a rebound

00:38:08.240 no i've been completely celibate single okay just do you have a question for no sorry i asked

00:38:14.400 oh she already answered okay she answered it all right and uh okay no rebound no guys in the picture

00:38:21.920 no nothing i don't have the tolerance right now no tolerance you're sick are you sick of men

00:38:27.280 sick and tired sick and tired i'm going to therapy that's what i'm doing okay you said that you uh

00:38:32.800 well but you might be only an orgy away from mr right no i actually like was very keen on no longer

00:38:39.360 participating in that stuff which this boyfriend knew which is why when he told the girl at coachella we

00:38:44.160 were open i was like i'm i'm out you know that's not true so i those days are over i'm no longer

00:38:49.760 fun anymore during those days during that that's true yeah thank you that's what he said okay so

00:38:56.080 during those days during those days how many uh like orgies were you participating in well again

00:39:03.440 define orgy because i guess four doesn't count as one i never i guess i've never had one

00:39:07.200 one kind of community yeah with him okay only with him well would you go to like sex parties

00:39:12.960 would you go to sex parties yeah how many how many did you go to oh actually that's a lie i i've been

00:39:18.720 to a few actually more than ten what's that more than ten oh no five to ten five sex parties let's say

00:39:25.360 five okay and you would have sex with your partner you would like swap i was only with him and uh there

00:39:32.320 were times where i've been to parties like that and i'm just watching or like interacting but like

00:39:37.840 not having intercourse so was your partner with other people we would have three subs a lot what's

00:39:43.840 that like to just watch just sit there and watch while people do that yeah i couldn't do that it's

00:39:48.960 interesting it can be really overwhelming and i would get turned on by watching him with other people

00:39:54.880 but then you know you experience things like jealousy which is natural but usually i would experience

00:39:59.760 that more like if it was like after the fact like if it was just like in the moment like i actually

00:40:03.760 really liked it sure what about you oh um so i've my longest relationship was like probably five

00:40:11.760 years on and off it was really bad and then one from age 21 to now i have been single wait hold on

00:40:20.880 uh so your current relationship status is single and you said from 21 to 28 you've been single yeah like

00:40:28.720 did you say i've gone on dates and i there was i talked to one guy in that time and otherwise i've

00:40:34.080 been single so you've been single for eight years probably seven okay seven you've been single for

00:40:40.480 seven years you were in a five-year relationship from uh what age to what age um it was like

00:40:46.080 17 to 21 ish i see and you said it was on again off again yeah how many times was it on off oh my gosh

00:40:54.400 probably like 20 times 20 times it was so bad is that fairly like is it you think it's more 30 40 50

00:41:03.600 times i think probably 20 20 is fair i hope not more than 20 but more often than not who was making

00:41:10.160 it off me turn me exclusively all the 20 times um well no there was one there was one time where he

00:41:19.280 had like gotten a new girlfriend and that was like and he like didn't message me that time and i

00:41:24.640 found out about it and so i guess that would be him like so you would break up with him i would break

00:41:31.520 up with him yeah and then but if he got a girlfriend i was like trying to win him back

00:41:36.560 so who would of the 20 or so times who would try to rekindle things was it split him always him

00:41:43.040 always trying to get me back trying to get you back and you would take him back typically how

00:41:46.880 long i know sometimes there there would be variants what would be the break typically in

00:41:51.760 these off periods one month two months three months a week um what was the shortest okay maybe like

00:41:57.760 three days to like two weeks two weeks was the longest off period no there's probably months

00:42:05.120 there's probably some months in there i see it's so long ago i'm trying to block it out of my

00:42:10.080 memory and typically what precipitated you ending things um coming to my senses

00:42:20.880 sometimes you just have to go back until you hate them yeah that's what happened

00:42:24.960 actually how it happened was what would he do to just tell me that to us getting back together

00:42:31.760 no to precipitate a you ending thing even if temporary um was he cheating he was

00:42:39.040 cheating constantly cheating constantly did you cheat on him at all no no okay

00:42:47.840 so he cheated on you like 20 times then because you said it was maybe it might have been 20 i don't

00:42:52.560 know definitely why would definitely more than 10. why did you keep going back uh because i loved him

00:42:58.960 in my own brain that's what i told myself i was like i would rather chop my arms and legs off

00:43:05.200 that's how i felt i was like i would then not end up with him yeah wait hold on wait you'd rather chop

00:43:13.440 your then then not be with him or be with him the pain of him and i not working out like was was like

00:43:21.920 i i would rather deal with any kind of hurt deal with any kind of wrong thing that he did to me or

00:43:27.520 whatever and try to try to make it work because the pain of like severing that relationship that i

00:43:32.320 had with him was like so painful so it would always lead me like and then he'd be all sweet and be like

00:43:38.720 you're the love of my life you're this you're that and i would end up getting back with him when's the

00:43:42.960 last time you spoke with him um he accidentally called my phone um maybe last year have you so you

00:43:52.960 said you've been single for seven years yeah in that seven year period did you guys have any

00:43:59.280 contact no except for like a year ago you said he accidentally texted you yeah okay so then

00:44:07.040 let's see you've in that seven year period have you been you said there was one guy you dated there

00:44:13.440 was one guy that i was like interested in in that seven years and how long did you date him um

00:44:19.360 we probably went on like three dates maybe four days and that was like over like three months

00:44:24.720 did you guys was there carnal knowledge um there was intimacy in that relationship yes there was

00:44:31.360 and was that but is that the only guy that you've had carnal knowledge with and yes seven years yeah

00:44:36.400 how long ago was that that was two years ago so you were celibate for five years and then two years

00:44:43.920 yeah and i was so upset that i like gave into that because i had really been trucking along okay and

00:44:52.080 so was this guy that you were on and excuse me on and off again with five years for five years uh

00:45:01.040 are these other guys that have come along have they just not been up to snuff as compared to him

00:45:08.480 like the other other people i've gone on dates with well like can you explain like can you describe your

00:45:13.920 uh your partner the five-year one like what do you mean describe him like some physical

00:45:19.840 characteristics personality tall skater punk jobless

00:45:25.920 how tall six probably six three six two fit scrawny skater skater boy yeah treated you like

00:45:33.200 shit no it's no six three i mean he was cheating on you he just cheated on me okay but he treated you

00:45:39.040 well otherwise um i mean except for he didn't have a job and like didn't had no ambition and lied and

00:45:45.920 yeah uh was did he have a good personality though um he was really i he was really creative

00:45:53.600 um but did he have a good person now and he was really outdoorsy and like

00:45:59.360 i don't know did he have game did he have game riz no no riz no he's handsome he's handsome good

00:46:07.040 looking guy he's good looking very handsome guy yeah very handsome guy i'm trying to get into

00:46:12.800 another relationship dude so so then so then he uh hold on wait was i mean was the sex really good

00:46:24.960 was that it i'm not gonna talk about well that's that's fair i'm not gonna talk about he was my

00:46:29.920 i'll just assume he was my first oh he took uh okay so i think i think that that and that had like

00:46:34.800 a huge part of me being like i would rather trap my arms and that'll do it wait i have a question

00:46:41.040 for you so if you could talk to yourself back then i just i would just punch myself in the head

00:46:47.760 that's what i would what i would just i would just like grab myself and shake and say what i just want

00:46:52.960 to know what would you tell yourself back okay actually what i would say is you don't you don't

00:46:59.440 understand how much your husband's gonna love you you don't understand how valuable you are yeah

00:47:07.760 that's what i would say to myself um and that's what i plan on saying to my children like what we

00:47:14.000 have as women is like so unique and so beautiful and what what you have as women is so unique that what

00:47:23.920 precisely the the the sexual connection that is that you can have but in your relationship with

00:47:31.200 your spouse well how's that yeah i was i was looking in my notes here um and and forgive me

00:47:36.640 if i got this wrong uh are you are you currently married me no no yeah no okay no no just let

00:47:43.520 everybody know no she's talking about her future husband okay so the reason i asked is odd um she had

00:47:49.680 asked what would you go back and tell yourself and you said i would tell myself that you don't even

00:47:54.080 know what the relationship between you and your future spouse is going to be like yeah but what's

00:47:59.200 the frame of reference there um i think like the the promise of like um like i have many people in my

00:48:08.400 life that are in very strong good relationships with their husband or wife and they're in love with them

00:48:15.680 and um understanding that like there really is somebody out there for me i just have to wait

00:48:22.080 until god brings that person into my life and um okay so it's like holding on to that hope of yeah

00:48:27.840 yeah i understand i just wanted to understand the mentality and then my last question before i turn

00:48:32.240 back over to brian um would you describe this guy as a narcissist me yeah um i don't know i'd probably

00:48:42.560 not no i don't think that he was a narcissist was he a sex addict is that why do you think i never

00:48:50.000 asked him i just asked because my my toxic ex like was definitely a sex addict and sometimes that's

00:48:57.200 why people have a hard time staying faithful i don't know i don't know we should find out i don't

00:49:02.720 know he should find out so okay the guy you were with for five years uh that was the first guy you were

00:49:08.400 ever with in an intimate so you've only been with two guys yes okay i didn't say that on the last

00:49:16.640 on the last show yeah sure so aside from that one would you call it a slip up the yeah you and it was

00:49:26.000 not like celibate for seven years it was not like a one night stand it was like i actually had feelings

00:49:31.840 for him but you guys only hung out a couple times it's something like yeah okay so celibate for

00:49:38.640 five years slip slip up i guess i say we would we only went on probably like three or four proper

00:49:45.200 dates yeah but like i would he would like so come see me before work and like bring me food or like

00:49:53.920 um there would be like little things like little times that we'd see each other

00:49:58.080 and so it wasn't it was it was a relationship that was like being built why so why did you lose

00:50:07.600 interest in him um i think i just realized that like we had a lot of different core values um he

00:50:18.240 he had let me down a few different times and um how so so so like we were him and i were actually

00:50:25.920 supposed to hang out last month and he he had after we had like broke everything off and um

00:50:34.640 he basically he was like saying that he like had been working on all this stuff that he was like

00:50:40.080 you know really trying to do and um like he was i think he was like he for him it really mattered to

00:50:46.480 him that he like lost weight and like got off a couple of these meds and um anyways so

00:50:52.400 he finally reached out to me where he was at a spot where i think he felt like he really could

00:50:57.760 have be in a relationship with somebody and then he he said all right let's hang out thursday i told

00:51:02.960 him what days i was free and then on thursday i was like are you gonna bail on me because he wasn't

00:51:08.240 texting me he wasn't texting me at all and he had already done this to me like a couple times where he

00:51:14.400 just like kind of brushed off something that like i assumed was like intentional and anyways and so

00:51:21.600 basically he i waited until the time that we were supposed to go on our date and he never messaged

00:51:26.960 me and i just blocked him and that was it wait but this was a month ago this so you guys reconnected

00:51:34.240 he reached back out to you or you reached back out he reached out to me and i said what are you doing

00:51:38.320 in my dms get out of and then i like entertained it and then i entertained it yeah okay i'll be

00:51:44.400 honest like i did entertain it because i really like i really enjoyed him like his company like

00:51:49.840 he's so funny but i knew like that it was never gonna work wait okay so just going back here though

00:51:56.800 so you went on how many dates with him three or four maybe five how many times did you see him in

00:52:02.160 person oh my god uh in person oh probably like 10 or 12 times oh what's the differentiation between

00:52:10.400 like him like seeing him in person and going on a date well i don't feel like him dropping

00:52:16.000 food off for me before i go into work is okay like like you spent you spent seeing him

00:52:25.120 seeing him for one minute i i wouldn't count that as like you know meeting up or a date really

00:52:32.160 when i say meet up i mean like you actually spent yeah a couple hours together yeah so we

00:52:37.440 he took me on a date we went shooting one time and then uh he took me out to dinner a couple other

00:52:44.880 times yeah and then so you guys but that was it and then he broke up with you no we went we went to

00:52:53.680 go hang out and and uh like go to dinner and it just naturally came up in conversation like yeah like

00:53:00.480 you and i both know that we have different core values so i don't said that i did because he didn't

00:53:06.080 say anything what do you mean he didn't say anything like he just i don't know i don't know

00:53:12.720 i don't know how to describe it okay he was he would not tell me what was going on in his head at all

00:53:17.680 wait but so what if there's nothing going on like i think i think women have this tendency to be like

00:53:30.320 what's wrong is like and if we say we're good we're good there's nothing we're not thinking

00:53:35.200 he wasn't saying that he was good he was like i didn't i didn't know if he wanted to date me i didn't

00:53:41.600 know if he wanted to like would you ask him and he would just say absolutely no i didn't ask him i

00:53:46.240 didn't be like you want to date me no i didn't do that well did you ask him like oh what are you

00:53:50.000 looking for or anything what are we yeah what are we no because i wasn't trying to like put any

00:53:57.280 pressure on him i just enjoyed hanging out with him and like was like maybe this will go somewhere

00:54:03.600 but then and then it was like he didn't want to like go out like he didn't want to take me on dates

00:54:09.120 okay this is what i really think it was i think that and i hope that he doesn't see this because

00:54:13.760 i would feel really bad but i think that he like has like is maybe like self-conscious and like had a

00:54:21.440 lot of anxiety about going out and stuff like that and what is that why are you laughing no sorry sorry

00:54:27.200 keep going keep going no i really this is really what i think and like the core values that were

00:54:31.360 different if you don't mind me asking i would i'm a christian and he's not okay yeah

00:54:38.960 wait so okay hold on talk to me so

00:54:43.920 you went on how many like dude hangouts don't include he dropped food off you saw him for two

00:54:50.320 minutes okay how many times do you guys spend together for a couple hours including dates

00:54:57.040 three or four no more than that five six seven well what do you count as a date like what's your

00:55:02.720 a date yeah maybe like an extended period of time where we go and do something that is planned like

00:55:11.680 yes but the date could also be it's a couple hours and you do an activity or you eat food or something

00:55:16.880 and that's a date yeah what would you call a date okay i just pretty much that but like everybody

00:55:21.840 kind of has different standards of like the way i'm using date the way i'm using date is it doesn't

00:55:26.640 doesn't necessarily mean you have to go out in public together it's just you've hung out and

00:55:32.000 spent time together could be at his house your house yeah well i'm trying that can include it

00:55:37.120 in at least in my framework that could include what the date is what what are you trying to figure out

00:55:41.680 with like the whole like how many times did you guys date well so okay you said you hooked up with

00:55:47.360 them right yes so what date the third date fourth date something like that probably like the third or

00:55:54.080 fourth date okay so then you know sorry no probably further into that because so you hooked you hooked

00:56:00.080 up with him once or twice how many times i don't know i don't want to go into well i'm trying to i

00:56:05.600 have a reason for why i'm asking i'm not just like curious like oh i really like you know

00:56:12.640 i don't i don't it would be helpful and it would be helpful in analyzing this well because you

00:56:18.240 you said you had a difference i wasn't hanging i was not sleeping with him every time i hung out with him

00:56:24.160 but you only went on so few dates so it could have only been what one or two times

00:56:31.760 three times okay whatever i mean we can just make some assumptions based off the fact that you

00:56:35.600 only well assume low okay i don't i don't have any objections if you fucked him a hundred times i

00:56:42.080 don't care um i guess i'm just trying to get a sense of like because you okay i like why did this

00:56:50.800 determination occur like after you hooked up with him that's my confusion i think because i

00:57:01.600 so i think i knew the whole time i just chose to give in you chose to give him i chose to give in

00:57:09.760 and sleep with him just feeling weak and horny like was there a reason sorry yeah well when you're

00:57:19.280 when you're single for so long and you finally like somebody yeah it's like uh

00:57:26.000 you you know it's difficult it's it's really hard well like not it's like you give in to yourself

00:57:33.200 maybe because like obviously that's a commitment you made to yourself to be celibate and while you're

00:57:38.880 well yeah and i just understand that like man i really value this aspect of my life and i don't

00:57:46.160 that's not something i just want to like give to people yeah that's not something i don't want to

00:57:50.160 know a bunch of people in that way so and then shortly after having you know you guys hooked up for

00:57:58.240 the first one or two or three times whatever uh you ended things with him correct yeah oh you mean

00:58:04.480 like just you ended things with him yeah okay what's interesting women often complain that men like

00:58:10.080 fuck them and then just leave but i mean oh no he would have been comfortable with whatever like sure

00:58:18.400 but i did fuck him and then just walk though women do that too i'm just it's interesting but i

00:58:25.360 but i i what if he really liked you he really liked you and then you fuck him and then i felt

00:58:32.480 like i wasn't getting anywhere in the relationship with him like all right you just met him right

00:58:37.120 i had known him for a few i had been hanging out for a few months okay you weren't getting anywhere

00:58:42.560 uh did you ask for to be exclusive

00:58:47.040 no i didn't ask that did you ask for a relationship no so what should i have done well i don't know all the

00:58:53.920 details of no i shouldn't have done anything because you feel like you weren't getting that

00:58:56.800 i'm gonna end up with like plain and simple well hold on but you said he's come back into the

00:59:02.000 picture a couple times and the last time you entertained him was a a month ago yeah that's

00:59:07.040 because i was being but then he flaked on you i know so you're planning thank god he did but you're

00:59:12.640 planning to go on the date with him i was yeah well hold on so you just to be clear you dated him two

00:59:20.240 years ago you broke yourself your five-year celibacy for him you made the determination

00:59:25.040 after having slept with him that this wasn't the guy for you there wasn't shared values there's a

00:59:29.280 lot of mistakes and then but so why are you you made the determination already he's not a christian

00:59:34.640 you've made that determination why continue entertaining him if he's not a christian because

00:59:39.600 that's such a deal breaker lonely because i wanted i i liked him i enjoyed him as a person

00:59:47.120 and so it's like i'm not saying that it was right i'm not saying that it was right at all like it was

00:59:52.080 wrong it didn't it wasn't logical either it was my emotions that were talking and i was giving into

00:59:58.800 those not not giving into what i know to be true what i know about myself what i want for myself like

01:00:04.960 i gave it plain and simple and it was and it was like are you on dating apps at all absolutely not

01:00:11.840 ever on dating apps yeah no i actually think that tinder blocked me because i would like

01:00:18.560 because i would like download it and then i would delete it yeah and then i would download it and just

01:00:23.040 get so disappointed or like traumatized and then uh and then i would be like oh my gosh like all right

01:00:30.480 i shouldn't be afraid to like go on here and go on these dating apps and then i'm like this is the

01:00:34.080 worst so is it it is it a must that the guy you date has to be christian yeah it just wouldn't work

01:00:40.400 okay it wouldn't work um you you were celibate though for almost seven years total for five

01:00:49.120 years there was a break and then you've been celibate for two years so um why are you finding

01:00:56.400 it difficult to uh find somebody i mean that's okay to be single for essentially seven years uh you know

01:01:03.520 you're an attractive girl uh do you think your standards are too high do you feel like you still

01:01:08.160 have feelings for your first guy no it's all gone yeah it's okay took took a lot of work but yeah

01:01:14.080 it's gone okay so why like are just no guys hitting on you um no it's actually kind of funny because i

01:01:22.160 have a date tomorrow maybe i might have a date tomorrow and then wait hold on you have a date

01:01:28.800 tomorrow yeah here in california nope wait so you're flying back so this is really cute this is

01:01:35.920 really cute so he offered so he actually saw me on the first podcast okay and my somebody sent it to

01:01:43.120 me this i didn't know him he didn't like find me i have a friend who sent him the show and he said to

01:01:49.680 me not meeting you wasn't an option and then he has like a connection to move some flights around

01:01:58.640 and so he has offered which i don't even know so i don't know when i'm flying out tomorrow but

01:02:03.200 he has offered to get me a new flight from la to seattle and i'll have a long he lives in seattle

01:02:11.120 i live in eastern washington and so he's offered to like reroute that so he can take me on a date when

01:02:16.960 i get to seattle so if if we if we it's really cute yeah i want to fly out to see him tomorrow

01:02:21.920 yeah it's hope wait how long have you been because you were on the show like a year ago

01:02:26.960 uh when did he initially message you oh this happened like within a week this is like oh this is

01:02:33.840 fresh this is new like a week ago yeah like a week ago i met him i met him he came down you

01:02:39.200 already met oh yeah he came down to um my hometown i don't want to share it sure he came down to my

01:02:44.800 hometown and um yeah i met him nice okay and we've talked on the phone a couple times

01:02:52.000 i have a question um if i may the boyfriend that you were with for five years and the one like a

01:02:59.200 while ago was he a christian the one that cheated on you or did he identify yeah he identified as one

01:03:05.760 okay so does he sound like one no he doesn't he wasn't one so that was my question so if if you were

01:03:11.840 dating like you described two different people one cheated on you treated you like crap but

01:03:16.560 identified as a christian the other one had a seemingly normal personality just wasn't really

01:03:21.440 piquing your interest but didn't identify as a christian i mean out of those two it seemed like

01:03:27.360 you were willing to work more on the first relationship even though he cheated on you well

01:03:31.680 i also think that he was my first love you were very young right yeah i was like 17 yeah like

01:03:39.040 i lost my virginity to him like i was tied to that can you scoot your hold on let me make some

01:03:44.240 adjustments here hold on no that's good try to speak there go ahead and the reason i ask is just

01:03:50.880 because there's so many people i guess that identify as a christian but their actions say

01:03:54.880 otherwise and so that's why i asked all right i gotta move it on gustava what about you

01:04:00.080 what about you uh my longest relationship uh maybe a little bit longer than a year and a half

01:04:10.480 between a year and a half and two years um and currently single very single um

01:04:19.760 very single right now and have been single for about two years all right single for two years

01:04:28.000 um and sorry what was your longest relationship uh between a year and a half and two years two years

01:04:37.520 okay uh and the relationship that ended two years ago you've been single for two years was that the

01:04:44.480 two-year one um no no okay that one actually was almost so there was a term that one of your

01:04:51.840 other i think oh alpha widow yes is that it i realized that i think i had that issue going on

01:04:58.400 can you why don't you tell us about that um similar so i understand um my first love met in high school

01:05:07.520 um known him for almost 15 years uh

01:05:14.720 had a really really hard time dating other people because it took me a long time to even realize this

01:05:19.520 um i was very very hung up on him because we kind of would date on and off like we date for like a

01:05:24.640 year and then we break up and not talk for like a year or two and then we get back together and then

01:05:28.880 we did that probably three or four times this is the guy this is not two years this is not the two-year

01:05:33.280 guy no okay this is a past past he's the most recent one oh wait he's the most recent he he's the

01:05:39.600 most recent my longest though was before what was before him my longest was um throughout the the

01:05:48.640 on and off time but he is my most recent ex okay and so why why do you categorize this as

01:05:58.560 you being alpha without i think and explain that what your sense of that is to the uh viewers well

01:06:04.320 i think the person who had brought it up on the panel last said it was kind of like when you're hung up

01:06:11.280 on a certain ex or person you've been with and it like kind of makes it impossible for you to date

01:06:18.080 um at least that's what i took from it and that's what i feel like happened to me like i could meet

01:06:22.800 somebody and i would just look for problems in them because i would be comparing them to him um

01:06:31.120 so yeah like so i've been single like i said i've been single for two years but about a year ago i guess i

01:06:35.360 was kind of in like if we weren't boyfriend girlfriend but we were seeing each other um

01:06:42.320 but yeah that didn't work out but that wasn't i think due to my ex that was part of the reason

01:06:46.000 but also he was a little bit too femme feminine why did the the relationship with alpha guy why did that

01:06:54.720 one break up uh many reasons um i think maybe distance played a part into it i think also i was

01:07:06.320 kind of a a-hole to him when we were in high school that probably played into it um

01:07:12.720 i think also so another fun fact i have a child he has two two children um so there was some

01:07:24.720 baby mama drama on his side that also caused some issues um you have a child from him not from him

01:07:31.520 no no a different uh long time ago how old's your kid he will be 10 next month and you're 28 right

01:07:40.400 and i will be 29 next month so you had you had him when you were 18 19 had him on my 19th birthday

01:07:47.280 you guys share a birthday okay well i mean so technically he's he was born i'm june 21st he was born

01:07:53.440 june 22nd at 12 34 a.m okay oh my god um okay all right a couple uh i i don't know you do you have

01:08:03.440 a lucky you tattoo somewhere yes i do where where is that don't show us don't show us i wasn't going

01:08:11.200 to it's right here where you get it's above your hoo-ha okay i saw it on your instagram i kind of forgot

01:08:19.280 about that pain wise like how is that spot to get tattooed that was probably my worst tattoo really

01:08:24.480 yes so it's lucky you is it in cursive yes cursive yes why does that matter to you it's very important

01:08:33.120 did you see the tattoo if you saw it on our instagram he probably doesn't remember he wants

01:08:36.640 to paint a picture yeah i saw it okay you're trying to describe it though try i saw it on instagram

01:08:41.840 and uh so what i'm curious like what's the meaning of there is actually okay so

01:08:49.360 sorry dad i guess no honestly the the main reason i got it as dumb as it is is i used to like really

01:08:56.800 be into harley quinn and harley quinn has the tattoo oh she has that yeah yeah where is it on her body

01:09:03.600 same spot oh yeah same spot inspiration yeah that's cute how old were you when you got it oh god

01:09:11.040 okay well so there are two things right i just want to let you know oh yeah he's here just how bad

01:09:16.080 the tattoo actually is is because that's not canon it's not even harley quinn canon so you fell for a

01:09:21.840 non-canonical uh harley quinn and then replicated a non-canonical tattoo so that's like a double

01:09:28.960 fail i know that's it i trust me my father's let me know

01:09:36.560 fathers oh father father sorry no father only one i think so um

01:09:44.320 uh okay hold on guys i think we missed a

01:09:49.920 uh one sec guys we have uh senior muffin top uh natalia can can i have you read read this we'll

01:09:57.520 have you read some of these chats i found out my ex was never worried about four dogs she left me

01:10:03.760 to have a relationship with her ex and immediately got knocked up by him then she told him to quit his

01:10:11.600 job and he did then she quit her job and they are letting their cars get repoed back to my passport bro

01:10:21.920 life what is that what what is that am i high there's also no punctuation in the whole sentence

01:10:31.680 i think he's just saying bro life like well have you heard of passport bros senior muffin top

01:10:37.600 those are like uh dude you dodged the bullet bro you you dodged a

01:10:41.440 you dodged a bullet senior muffin top wait but what is the four dogs don't worry yeah what happened

01:10:52.000 to the dogs dogs uh victor ramsahawk you sent in australian hundred unfortunately we lost it so i'm

01:10:59.680 just i've apologized we're just going to read it he just says how do you talk to these people without

01:11:05.360 losing iq points um so there's that uh it's a good question i don't know i don't know uh this is

01:11:14.320 it we got a good panel do you have enough to spare we don't know that he hasn't lost iq points we have

01:11:19.360 a good panel um and then i'm going to pull up two you can hide that what is your iq can i have you read

01:11:24.080 this do you know it can just read this while it's up please which one the red one just the one on the

01:11:30.080 one it's about to disappear how these girls it's mind-boggling how these girls can sit here and say

01:11:34.880 how they have of do blank or orgies but want to find a good guy like hey i just took four

01:11:43.280 roosters at one time where are all the good guys you can reshow you can show all the good guys

01:11:49.600 just leave it up um any for those of you who do of any thoughts on that i just want to clarify not

01:11:56.800 that it matters and zero judgment i think you're a badass but i don't actually do porn on my only

01:12:02.320 fans so i do like stuff yeah solo content but i don't do boy girl i did not film those orgies or

01:12:08.240 if they were filmed they were not ever sold or posted online you never did bg not that it makes a

01:12:13.040 difference but i just wanted to put that in there okay yeah i mean it's an interesting question do you

01:12:18.560 want to weigh in on this i mean me specifically i'm not looking for a man good or otherwise you know

01:12:25.760 it's more about like you will at some point i might i'm really learning to enjoy my own company

01:12:30.800 right now just focusing on myself and my work and yeah also i just want to say i would hope that i

01:12:36.560 mean that's probably a good skill to start developing now right what is being enjoying your own company

01:12:45.040 honestly and like plus i know plenty of performers in the industry who are happily married many are married

01:12:51.360 to other performers so there's not like you know that like do you want to get married is that a goal

01:12:56.400 you have i i maybe you know it's like somebody would really have to like improve upon on my life

01:13:07.840 by myself it's not so much as like competing with other men and competing with like past men i've been

01:13:12.960 with it's like do i like being with you more than i like being with just me and right now i really like

01:13:18.160 being with just me i mean i think they can uh yeah i think they can find a partner i do think there is

01:13:24.880 like some savage i think it's what i'm trying to understand here is kind of the demands that women

01:13:31.680 who are engaged in these sort of uh fields is there's still like this demand for traditional treatment

01:13:40.320 from men even though they're as far as traditional like as far as they can be

01:13:45.120 from being traditional women themselves so i mean uh i don't think it precludes them from having

01:13:52.240 being able to find a partner but i do think the issue is is there's like still this well i want a

01:13:58.800 guy to be chivalrous and traditional but i want to be a modern woman and do sex work and have

01:14:05.040 fuck other men but you have to be a traditional man that's where it kind of i don't feel that way

01:14:09.120 it confuses me yeah i don't feel i don't want a guy to pay on the first date uh they don't have to

01:14:13.840 i've been with people where i paid for everything i've been with guys where they

01:14:16.560 paid for everything or something and that's totally fine yeah i paid for a date once and

01:14:20.400 he hated it oh okay did he feel like emasculated maybe i don't know i mean i was like just trying

01:14:27.120 to do like a kind gesture like oh you've taken me on like a few dates like anyways uh natalia can i have

01:14:33.920 have you read this one why don't the eggs tell jokes they are afraid to crack up panel one thing

01:14:43.840 you can do now to improve your future go is this uh we'll do it it's just totally like you're not

01:14:52.640 dating give me a quick answer if you can yeah keep going to therapy and the gym

01:15:00.160 answer keep him why is that terrible guys guys guys we'll start with you we'll go around the

01:15:05.040 table go ahead um i would say to continue improving my marriage just to keep communication good and

01:15:12.720 keep god in the middle of my marriage i think that's how i continue to find more in my husband

01:15:18.000 every day that i'm with him in making investments financially yeah i was gonna say the same thing

01:15:23.760 smart girl uh therapy in the gym i feel like i want to say

01:15:33.520 i don't know sorry i don't know just skip me good me yeah uh probably working on having a little bit

01:15:40.160 more self-discipline okay that's all right cool cool cool any any any any chance any of you would say

01:15:48.000 a slowing down on promiscuity and porn work maybe i want to get more promiscuous actually

01:15:57.360 watch okay appreciate it appreciate it i'm celibate at the moment so she's working on that right

01:16:05.040 now yeah since the breakup i just have no intention on having how long have you been celibate i mean

01:16:10.000 like three weeks but like i have no interest in dating or anything of the sort okay all right well

01:16:16.880 before we get into the main topic of today's show which is the viral man versus bear debate before

01:16:24.880 we get into that we're gonna go around the table we're gonna do a segment called

01:16:30.880 i haven't named the segment yet actually but uh we're gonna have the girls now i know some

01:16:35.360 of you are in relationships but be good sports and just uh assume you were not in a relationship

01:16:40.560 we're gonna have you guys go through some bumble profiles each of you gets 20 swipes you each

01:16:44.720 get 20 swipes that's gonna take forever it'll be quick it'll be it's faster than anything it'll be

01:16:50.240 yes or no so yes or no we're gonna show you the profiles uh we have bumble pulled up yes sir and

01:16:58.880 nick could you put us he's cute i like his name so we're gonna start with with me no no no no no no no

01:17:05.680 no no no no no yeah right big right big just like last time okay so how does this work i just so if

01:17:11.920 if he's cute if he's cute if he's cute or not or so just a yes or no are these real profiles yeah

01:17:16.000 yeah yes or no no no no yes

01:17:27.840 wait didn't you say yes

01:17:31.920 no no no that's a child no

01:17:38.640 that's a child no no no no what am i at no that's it

01:18:08.640 okay okay okay now we're going to you okay oh that one looks like my husband okay

01:18:14.720 yeah this is all just one photo speaking to the mic also when you say yes or no uh yes

01:18:24.160 yes

01:18:27.200 because the dog yes no no no yes no

01:18:36.160 um that kind of looks like my boyfriend so yes

01:18:39.840 it does look like it oh my god uh no it's not him though

01:18:43.920 no imagine

01:18:49.200 that would be crazy no

01:18:52.080 yeah um no

01:18:55.600 i can't even see that guy no it's so dark no

01:18:58.880 okay okay next person demi no no no no no no which one no which one why do they do that

01:19:19.360 maybe yeah no no which one with the multiples come on guys no

01:19:27.040 it's always the least attractive one no it's never the one you hope

01:19:33.840 he's cute he's i wish i could see more i would say yes where is that that's so cool you know no

01:19:41.360 no we can't see their age i can't see anything i know like that's a factor for me that one's a yes

01:19:46.160 no because who which one no that's 20 we have like four more okay allie your turn my turn well

01:19:55.440 huh oh no like 20 no to the bad mirror selfie yeah yes i didn't count 20 yes to that guy i know that museum no

01:20:04.400 no

01:20:04.720 okay yeah i'd message that's 20 and then we'll move on yeah oh okay no yes because the background

01:20:14.720 yes because he looks tall yes because the dog i'm just positive no i don't know who he is which one

01:20:20.960 no he looks angry nope

01:20:23.200 i don't like how he's touching down there where's that hand um i don't know if they're straight yeah

01:20:34.880 no um no i don't know why he's on the floor i can't even see him no

01:20:42.480 no i don't know who he is i can't even donated money do you want me to read it

01:20:46.640 it no okay can't even see his face

01:20:55.200 nope um sure he likes that no what's up with the back of their heads or smoke

01:21:04.400 i can't tell who he is he's cute yeah he's okay yeah last one sure

01:21:12.000 yeah

01:21:19.200 no no no no no oh no it's like john no no he didn't no yes no

01:21:33.280 no no no no no it's blurry no

01:21:46.640 yes i don't know maybe yeah i probably would

01:21:51.200 yeah i probably would something about mullets no last one no

01:21:56.160 no no no no i can't really see his face that good so no no no no

01:22:14.800 yeah he's cute no no no

01:22:19.120 yeah yeah yeah no the way you guess no no no no no if he's the one with the hat then yes

01:22:37.600 yes uh no this game is so funny no no no last one no no okay do you want me to do it

01:22:55.840 okay no no no no no no no no no no no no no

01:23:05.280 no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no i lost count i think i have like four more

01:23:33.040 no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

01:23:45.680 yeah is that it that's it yes that's those that's that was the ones we swiped yes on like barely any

01:23:51.680 and we didn't even get to see their profiles because if a lot of those guys sounded like

01:23:56.800 overwhelmingly no but what what's what are you saying because like it'd be even less

01:24:01.640 Because if I looked at their profile, I looked at more photos.

01:24:04.080 You think you'd disqualify them even more?

01:24:05.720 Yeah, I think I would.

01:24:06.600 Some of them I feel like, I don't know, it could have helped them.

01:24:09.520 Because the first photo would be like a group photo or something backlit,

01:24:13.300 something where you can't really see their face and it's like.

01:24:15.220 Just circle yourself, please.

01:24:16.280 How do I, how do I, yeah.

01:24:17.520 Drop them out or put the smiling faces on other people or something.

01:24:22.080 All right, I'm going to pull this up.

01:24:24.300 Natalia, can I have you read this one?

01:24:25.500 For the women who do OF or sex work, how would you explain it to your children

01:24:29.920 should you want any?

01:24:31.420 Why?

01:24:31.940 You're naked all over the internet.

01:24:33.680 You set them up for failure, bullying, mental problems, etc.

01:24:37.640 You guys want to respond to that real quick?

01:24:40.240 You can go first.

01:24:40.960 Okay, I've never wanted kids.

01:24:42.620 I thought really hard when I started doing sex work online

01:24:46.780 about what that would do to my digital footprint and things like that.

01:24:50.000 I know a lot of people who do have kids

01:24:52.920 and there's age-appropriate ways to explain it to your kids.

01:24:57.540 Like, you wouldn't tell a toddler, like, oh, yeah, like, mommy takes dick for money.

01:25:01.620 Like, no.

01:25:03.620 But, yeah, it's just a job.

01:25:08.440 And I think it could be beneficial, potentially, like, as the, you know,

01:25:12.760 to grow up and learn about sex workers' work

01:25:15.740 and what safe sex practices are

01:25:18.060 and also to learn, like, hey, like, your digital footprint never goes away.

01:25:21.320 Well, assuming for a second that you did have little Stephanie,

01:25:27.700 would you, would you, and little Stephanie came to you at 17

01:25:32.160 and said that she had aspirations to follow in your footsteps

01:25:36.180 and do pornography for a living

01:25:38.000 because of how much money she saw mommy make from that.

01:25:41.980 Would you be encouraging of that or would you discourage it?

01:25:44.680 I would encourage her, especially at 17, to think long, long and hard about that

01:25:51.840 because, you know, I was realistic when I got into it

01:25:54.680 that there's that digital footprint, man.

01:25:57.280 Like, it never goes away.

01:25:58.680 It does affect your future opportunities.

01:26:00.900 And don't get into it for quick money.

01:26:02.520 Okay, so she's thought about it, right?

01:26:04.540 She went and had a good think.

01:26:06.620 Now she's 19 years old.

01:26:07.820 She's thought about it for two years.

01:26:08.920 She said, Mom, look, I just absolutely have to go out

01:26:12.640 and take that D for money because it makes so much of it.

01:26:17.380 What do you say to Stephanie?

01:26:19.000 Are you going to support Stephanie and all of her?

01:26:20.580 Would you give her your contact cards?

01:26:22.500 Your old contact cards?

01:26:23.880 I might feel a little...

01:26:24.880 I mean, honestly, I'm honestly curious about this.

01:26:29.320 You know, if she really seriously wants to do this

01:26:31.900 and understands that once you're in it, you're in it

01:26:35.380 and it's not smart to do it for like,

01:26:37.360 oh, I'll do it for a couple years when I'm young

01:26:38.920 and then I'll leave.

01:26:40.000 Like, that's not realistic

01:26:40.860 and she knows that it's going to follow her around forever

01:26:43.680 and it's something that if she wants to do,

01:26:45.260 she should really commit to,

01:26:46.340 then, yeah, absolutely, go for it.

01:26:48.420 Like, I would be such a hypocrite to say not to do it

01:26:52.240 because I did it.

01:26:53.360 Well, you wouldn't be a hypocrite.

01:26:55.300 It wouldn't be a hypocrisy to tell her not to do it.

01:26:57.800 Being engaged in an activity.

01:26:58.920 So, like, for instance, if a six-year-old,

01:27:02.340 my six-year-old son came to me and was like,

01:27:04.400 hey, Dad, give me one of those Marlboros.

01:27:06.240 And I said, no, would I be a hypocrite?

01:27:08.720 No, but that's a six-year-old.

01:27:11.600 That's not a 19-year-old who's making a decision

01:27:15.380 about their career.

01:27:16.400 If my 20-year-old came over to me, let's say,

01:27:18.620 and said, hey, let me have one of those smokes.

01:27:20.220 And I said, no, it's bad for you.

01:27:21.600 Does that make me a hypocrite in your worldview?

01:27:23.520 It doesn't make you a hypocrite,

01:27:24.680 but I want to say porn's bad for you

01:27:26.140 the way that, like, cigarettes are bad for you.

01:27:28.400 Now, I smoke cigarettes too,

01:27:29.640 but, you know, like, one will give you cancer.

01:27:34.040 It has all these health detriments

01:27:38.060 that have been long, long recorded.

01:27:41.420 Yeah, but that's not my question.

01:27:43.220 My question isn't whether or not cigarette smoking

01:27:45.340 is bad for you in comparison to pornography.

01:27:48.160 My question is, are you saying that it would make

01:27:50.480 a person a hypocrite if they smoked

01:27:52.640 and told other people that smoking was bad for them?

01:27:54.860 How would that be hypocrisy?

01:27:56.900 Okay, I don't think that was your original question,

01:27:59.460 though.

01:27:59.600 Your original question was,

01:28:00.740 would I encourage, like,

01:28:02.800 like, if I had a daughter to get into porn?

01:28:05.380 I don't think porn, well, I don't think

01:28:06.920 drawing the comparison to cigarettes is...

01:28:08.620 But hang on, hang on, hang on.

01:28:09.500 Before we go off into, like,

01:28:11.340 a bunch of prattle, let's go back.

01:28:12.960 Into what?

01:28:14.560 Before we go into a bunch of prattle,

01:28:16.200 let's move back.

01:28:17.240 Okay, so how this conversation went was,

01:28:20.060 you said, no, I couldn't say that to her

01:28:21.960 because I'd be a hypocrite.

01:28:23.320 And so I said, well, wait a second.

01:28:25.620 If that's true, then that's like saying

01:28:27.520 that I'd be a hypocrite if I told someone,

01:28:29.180 hey, smoking cigarettes is bad for your health

01:28:31.660 and I'm not going to give you one

01:28:33.860 even though I smoke.

01:28:35.480 Are you saying that's hypocrisy?

01:28:36.660 Because that doesn't make any sense to me.

01:28:38.440 Porn's not bad for your health, though.

01:28:40.840 And as, like, an of-age-consenting adult,

01:28:43.660 I couldn't...

01:28:44.400 What do you think the HPV rates are for porn stars?

01:28:45.660 I'm sorry, what?

01:28:46.740 What are the HPV rates for porn stars?

01:28:48.980 Do you know?

01:28:50.260 What are the rates?

01:28:50.780 I don't know.

01:28:51.720 The increased rates of cervical cancer for women.

01:28:54.260 The increased rates of STDs,

01:28:56.460 which are inside the industry,

01:28:57.500 very much inside the industry.

01:28:58.920 We can pretend that that's not true,

01:29:00.500 but it is true.

01:29:02.080 How can you say that it's not an increased risk,

01:29:04.700 even for violence and for SA?

01:29:06.960 There are many jobs that have certain risks,

01:29:10.560 and that's what I said.

01:29:11.520 Like, you think about it.

01:29:13.180 It's not a decision you take lightly,

01:29:14.980 but if this is what, like,

01:29:16.340 if I had a daughter and she really thought about it

01:29:19.580 and was being, like,

01:29:21.080 had a good head on her shoulders about it,

01:29:23.760 then, yeah, of course, like,

01:29:26.100 she should absolutely do it.

01:29:28.200 Who am I to stop her?

01:29:29.600 So then it stands to reason, then,

01:29:31.580 that we could assume that other people's daughters,

01:29:35.260 let's say from a single father or something like this,

01:29:39.040 who talked with you,

01:29:40.980 came to you and asked for advice on this,

01:29:43.600 that you would be encouraging to them as well.

01:29:46.160 Well, there's a reason I don't give advice to people.

01:29:50.820 I'm not, like, a role model, necessarily.

01:29:55.260 Like, I'm not in a position to be a role model.

01:29:58.100 I don't speak to anybody underage about what I do ever.

01:30:01.940 I never, ever would bring that up.

01:30:02.400 No, I understand that,

01:30:03.960 but it stands to reason, though,

01:30:05.560 that if you would give that advice to your own daughter,

01:30:08.200 wouldn't you give it to other people's daughters as well?

01:30:11.000 I mean, everybody is somebody's daughter,

01:30:12.520 so if I was talking to a young woman

01:30:14.520 and she was asking me questions about the porn industry,

01:30:18.140 I would answer,

01:30:18.980 but I don't go around encouraging people

01:30:21.440 to do porn or do sex work.

01:30:24.020 I think it's a personal decision,

01:30:25.580 and I think it's something that you should give with me.

01:30:26.480 You just said that you would encourage your daughter

01:30:27.860 and to help her in any way possible

01:30:29.800 if she wanted to.

01:30:31.540 No.

01:30:31.680 You wouldn't discourage her at all.

01:30:33.360 I would support my daughter's dreams

01:30:34.780 no matter what they were.

01:30:36.260 That's what I said.

01:30:37.000 I wouldn't go out of my way

01:30:38.580 and be like, oh, like, you should do porn.

01:30:40.760 It's going to make you a ton of money.

01:30:41.940 That's not how I would go about it,

01:30:43.400 but if she came to me...

01:30:43.940 Well, I mean, you wouldn't think...

01:30:45.140 I mean, you don't think it's good parenting

01:30:46.480 to support your kids in all their endeavors, right?

01:30:48.520 I mean, that seems counterproductive to parenting.

01:30:51.620 Yeah, but this isn't an endeavor

01:30:52.860 that would be bad to be supportive of.

01:30:56.760 I think it would be more dangerous

01:30:57.840 to cut somebody off and be like,

01:31:00.780 well, if you do that, I'm not speaking to you,

01:31:02.440 and then she runs off and does it anyway

01:31:03.980 and she has nobody to speak to.

01:31:06.300 What is enabling?

01:31:07.780 Isn't enabling when you enable a bad behavior

01:31:10.600 because you refuse to lay down a consequence for it?

01:31:13.360 It's not a bad behavior.

01:31:15.920 Pornography is not a bad behavior?

01:31:17.540 No.

01:31:18.060 It's an occupation.

01:31:19.940 Mm-hmm.

01:31:20.680 And people can disagree with it,

01:31:22.040 and I would think if it was my kid,

01:31:23.640 I would explain the pros and cons.

01:31:25.460 This affected my life in a positive way.

01:31:27.640 This affected it in a negative way,

01:31:29.200 and you can learn from my experiences.

01:31:31.940 You can't really control someone when they're of age

01:31:33.880 and they want to make their own decisions.

01:31:35.920 Well, let's just look at it from a pragmatic perspective.

01:31:39.480 You would agree with me that most people

01:31:41.200 who enter into pornography don't make very much money, right?

01:31:44.760 I think the statistics are widely skewed

01:31:48.360 by people who come in for a scene or two

01:31:50.880 or they do OnlyFans or something for a month or two.

01:31:54.180 They don't really commit to it.

01:31:55.220 And yeah, those people, they do not make a lot of money.

01:31:57.440 Yeah, so then most people who engage in pornography

01:32:00.440 don't make a lot of money, right?

01:32:02.960 But that's, what I'm saying is that statistic

01:32:05.400 is skewed by people who come in,

01:32:07.940 they shoot one or two scenes,

01:32:09.520 they're not committed to it,

01:32:10.660 they haven't thought about it beforehand.

01:32:10.900 So then most people who engage in pornography

01:32:13.240 don't make a lot of money, is that correct?

01:32:15.700 It's the entertainment industry.

01:32:17.460 Not everybody is successful,

01:32:19.040 but the people who commit to it,

01:32:20.440 there is a lot of money in this industry.

01:32:21.980 Yeah, so again, to my question,

01:32:23.860 I'll ask it a fourth time,

01:32:25.000 so then most people who engage in pornography

01:32:27.380 don't make a lot of money, correct?

01:32:30.800 It's only the really successful people

01:32:32.540 that work hard at it that end up making money.

01:32:34.740 I think that's, sure,

01:32:36.300 I think that's true of like many professions.

01:32:41.920 What exactly are you getting at about this?

01:32:44.780 I need to table this conversation.

01:32:46.460 We can get back to the porn is bad conversation.

01:32:49.280 Later on in the show,

01:32:50.260 I need to table it for now

01:32:51.420 because I want to move into,

01:32:53.160 pretty much move into our main segment here.

01:32:56.100 So before I do that, though,

01:32:58.560 there's one pre-question to this.

01:33:01.200 So hold on one sec, guys.

01:33:04.980 One sec.

01:33:06.000 I'm getting there.

01:33:07.760 All right.

01:33:09.840 First thing is,

01:33:10.620 and we won't linger on this specific topic,

01:33:12.900 but we perhaps will come back to it later.

01:33:15.480 This has kind of been a heated conversation

01:33:17.800 that's gone on the past two shows.

01:33:21.060 So would you want your guy

01:33:24.300 to sacrifice his life for you?

01:33:27.340 And I suppose the best way to frame this is

01:33:29.200 in some hypothetical scenario,

01:33:30.720 would you want your boyfriend or husband

01:33:32.460 to take a bullet for you?

01:33:35.820 Starting with you.

01:33:37.320 Sure.

01:33:37.960 So I wouldn't necessarily want that scenario to take place,

01:33:41.780 but you're saying in a hypothetical situation

01:33:43.360 where one of you has to...

01:33:45.460 One of us.

01:33:45.980 Okay, so my relationship,

01:33:49.300 my marriage is based off of biblical principles.

01:33:53.400 So when I ask that question,

01:33:55.420 I say, what does the Bible say about it?

01:33:57.780 And the Bible says that the husband's role

01:34:00.380 in a marriage is to love his wife

01:34:03.940 like Christ loved the church.

01:34:05.660 And so that means basically to lay down your life

01:34:07.820 if you have to,

01:34:09.080 because that's what Christ did for the church.

01:34:10.700 He laid down his life.

01:34:11.560 So I guess in that hypothetical situation,

01:34:15.620 if my husband was following the principles of the Bible,

01:34:18.720 he would want to do that.

01:34:20.620 So yes.

01:34:21.640 Yeah, but to clarify this though,

01:34:23.800 hang on, I'm sorry,

01:34:24.520 before we can move on on the question,

01:34:26.260 I got to clarify two points.

01:34:28.400 First, just for my own curiosity,

01:34:30.860 what denomination are you?

01:34:32.780 I'm non-denominational.

01:34:34.360 Non-dominational is Protestant.

01:34:35.800 I think Protestant's a denomination, isn't it?

01:34:41.320 No, no, no.

01:34:41.840 It's just, we won't get into the specifics.

01:34:45.060 It's not important, but I just, just for my own.

01:34:47.980 I call myself a follower of Jesus.

01:34:50.500 That's it.

01:34:51.300 I don't say I'm one thing or the other.

01:34:53.500 Okay, got it.

01:34:55.260 So the question specifically is,

01:34:58.960 would you want in that situation,

01:35:01.400 would your preference be in that situation

01:35:03.700 that the husband,

01:35:06.460 because you're saying he has a higher duty, correct?

01:35:08.780 So you're saying he has a higher duty

01:35:10.800 and part of this duty is to protect you.

01:35:14.440 And part of that protection

01:35:15.340 is that he takes the bullet, right?

01:35:17.640 Just to clarify.

01:35:20.160 I would say yes.

01:35:23.220 Okay.

01:35:24.200 All right.

01:35:26.020 I think when you love someone,

01:35:28.020 if you love them unconditionally and...

01:35:31.660 No such thing as unconditional love.

01:35:36.020 When you really love someone,

01:35:37.280 I think it's,

01:35:38.620 you would want to put your life down for them.

01:35:40.480 So honestly, it'd be,

01:35:42.380 I wouldn't want him to necessarily

01:35:43.580 step in front of a bullet for me

01:35:44.960 because I would give my life

01:35:46.920 for someone I love.

01:35:49.160 Does that make any sense?

01:35:50.300 So he would want to do that for me

01:35:52.360 as I would want to do that for him.

01:35:53.760 I feel the same.

01:35:54.860 Okay, so I agree with her.

01:35:56.120 I would also do the same.

01:35:56.980 I would do the same for my husband.

01:35:58.640 Yeah, but see,

01:36:00.280 this is why I was really specific

01:36:01.920 on questioning you about this

01:36:03.940 because you claimed

01:36:05.680 that it was not a preference

01:36:07.780 but that he had a higher duty.

01:36:11.040 There's a distinction

01:36:12.080 and I hate to harp on this

01:36:13.740 but details matter, right?

01:36:16.560 So does he have a,

01:36:18.060 whether you want it or not,

01:36:19.280 does he have a higher duty

01:36:20.540 to do it from your worldview?

01:36:22.640 I guess I define higher duty.

01:36:24.480 So the definition of a higher duty

01:36:27.840 is the prevalence that his duty

01:36:30.860 to jump in front of a bullet

01:36:32.400 takes precedent over your duty

01:36:34.440 to take one for him.

01:36:36.260 Then no, sorry.

01:36:37.420 I didn't understand what you meant.

01:36:39.460 Then how is that a reflection

01:36:40.720 of the church?

01:36:41.620 I don't understand

01:36:42.220 because you started with

01:36:44.020 the reflection of the church

01:36:45.800 is that the man is the sacrifice

01:36:47.440 as he's the head of the,

01:36:48.980 he's the representation

01:36:49.940 of the head of the church

01:36:50.960 which is Jesus Christ

01:36:51.860 who sacrificed himself

01:36:52.840 on a cross, right?

01:36:53.660 Right, but my duty is...

01:36:55.980 So then his duty,

01:36:57.180 wouldn't his duty,

01:36:58.520 his higher duty be

01:36:59.520 to sacrifice himself for you?

01:37:03.080 If he, yes.

01:37:04.520 So it's yes and no

01:37:05.840 because I also feel like

01:37:08.000 my position as a Christian

01:37:11.680 or as someone that loves Jesus

01:37:12.880 is to also replicate him as well.

01:37:15.420 So for me, I don't just say,

01:37:17.720 okay, only the husband

01:37:18.680 has to do this.

01:37:20.180 What do you mean replicated?

01:37:21.240 It's non-exclusive.

01:37:21.960 So I, it's my duty

01:37:24.880 as a Christian

01:37:25.540 that believes in God

01:37:26.720 to replicate what,

01:37:28.240 like basically what Jesus lived.

01:37:30.280 So it's to follow Jesus

01:37:31.900 is to live as he lived

01:37:33.160 on this earth.

01:37:33.820 And so that means

01:37:34.800 to lay down your life

01:37:35.700 for a friend, a husband,

01:37:37.000 someone you love, whoever.

01:37:38.540 That's just the way that it is.

01:37:40.480 Like the way that I believe.

01:37:41.900 So I don't want to say

01:37:42.920 my husband,

01:37:44.360 I require my husband to do it

01:37:46.000 and I don't expect myself

01:37:47.100 to also want to do

01:37:48.100 that thing for him.

01:37:49.400 If that makes sense.

01:37:50.280 It doesn't make any sense,

01:37:52.200 but we can move on from him.

01:37:53.700 Okay.

01:37:55.180 I think you answered

01:37:56.440 you would take a bullet for him.

01:37:58.800 I mean, but like,

01:37:59.740 do you think,

01:38:00.240 would you date a guy

01:38:00.940 who wouldn't be willing

01:38:01.620 to do that for you?

01:38:03.500 No, because that means

01:38:04.520 that he doesn't like love me

01:38:06.940 in the same way

01:38:07.400 that I love him.

01:38:08.020 If you love someone

01:38:11.000 and you're in a relationship

01:38:11.700 with them or let's say

01:38:12.980 in a friendship,

01:38:13.720 like this is my best friend,

01:38:14.760 if I would take a bullet

01:38:17.780 for her as well,

01:38:19.240 just as I know

01:38:19.860 she would want to do for me.

01:38:21.040 But isn't this sort of

01:38:21.920 a unidirectional thing?

01:38:23.280 Only one person can protect

01:38:25.520 in this scenario.

01:38:26.180 Only one person can take the bullet.

01:38:29.300 Yeah.

01:38:29.420 Right.

01:38:30.120 So, I mean.

01:38:31.560 Well, it's whoever's faster

01:38:32.440 at one person.

01:38:34.240 Exactly.

01:38:34.540 Would it be,

01:38:36.500 do you think men

01:38:37.600 would refuse to date a woman

01:38:40.180 who isn't prepared

01:38:41.580 to take a bullet for them?

01:38:45.600 No.

01:38:46.400 I don't think men necessarily,

01:38:48.060 I don't think that.

01:38:48.640 They wouldn't,

01:38:48.960 they don't look to women

01:38:49.700 for protection?

01:38:50.860 No.

01:38:51.840 Do you think a guy

01:38:52.440 is less masculine

01:38:53.720 if he wouldn't be willing

01:38:56.000 to take a bullet

01:38:57.700 or die for his girlfriend?

01:39:00.040 I do.

01:39:00.820 If there was an active situation

01:39:03.980 where that was happening

01:39:05.360 and he freaking pushed me

01:39:06.740 to the side

01:39:07.120 and like ran away,

01:39:08.360 I would be like,

01:39:09.080 yeah, that's not a man.

01:39:10.800 You dump him.

01:39:11.100 That is a little baby.

01:39:11.700 Do you think men would,

01:39:13.740 at similar rates,

01:39:14.900 if their girlfriend

01:39:15.760 did something similar,

01:39:17.780 like ran off scared,

01:39:19.000 coward, whatever,

01:39:20.180 do you think they would be

01:39:21.060 more or less inclined

01:39:23.380 to perhaps they'd lose

01:39:24.740 attraction

01:39:25.220 or end the relationship?

01:39:26.900 I mean,

01:39:27.100 that's up to the man.

01:39:28.620 Do you think they would,

01:39:29.640 care less though

01:39:30.420 than women would care

01:39:31.740 about that?

01:39:32.160 I think women probably

01:39:33.140 do care more about that.

01:39:34.780 Your answer to the question,

01:39:35.880 do you want a guy

01:39:36.440 to sacrifice his life?

01:39:38.160 I'm sorry,

01:39:38.980 can I jump in

01:39:39.580 just real quick, Brian?

01:39:40.740 Okay, so I wanted

01:39:41.540 to ask you a question

01:39:42.220 on this, kind of following up

01:39:44.060 on Brian's question.

01:39:47.440 Do you think

01:39:48.320 that you're an honorable person?

01:39:52.220 Would you consider yourself

01:39:53.020 an honorable person?

01:39:54.520 Yes.

01:39:55.520 Yeah.

01:39:56.160 Do you think that

01:39:57.220 it's appropriate then

01:39:58.360 for whatever man you're with

01:39:59.860 to defend your honor?

01:40:03.000 Yeah.

01:40:04.360 So if that's the case,

01:40:05.660 if he's defending your honor,

01:40:07.380 that's going to put him

01:40:08.680 in a situation

01:40:09.320 where he could get hurt, right?

01:40:10.960 Yeah, that actually did happen

01:40:12.440 in my relationship

01:40:13.480 that I'm in now.

01:40:13.740 So then hang on,

01:40:14.680 if that's true then,

01:40:16.820 then you're basically saying

01:40:18.300 that he has a higher duty

01:40:19.860 to take damage over you.

01:40:22.680 Yeah.

01:40:23.080 So the expectation

01:40:23.780 is not equal

01:40:25.460 that you're going to

01:40:26.480 take a bullet for him,

01:40:27.280 he takes a bullet for you.

01:40:28.120 The expectation is that

01:40:29.260 he's going to take the bullet,

01:40:30.520 right?

01:40:31.240 Because you're willing

01:40:31.900 to just put him

01:40:32.520 in harm's way

01:40:33.240 on behalf of your honor,

01:40:34.740 right?

01:40:35.240 I'm not willing

01:40:36.220 to put him

01:40:37.820 in a harm's way

01:40:38.460 in any scenario,

01:40:39.420 but it's key.

01:40:40.020 Well, no, but hang on.

01:40:42.100 Nope, because we just

01:40:43.400 went through it.

01:40:44.260 Answer one,

01:40:45.680 man has a duty

01:40:46.480 to defend your honor

01:40:47.480 because you're

01:40:47.940 an honorable person.

01:40:48.920 You literally said

01:40:49.780 your man has that duty.

01:40:51.680 So if he has a duty

01:40:52.980 to do this,

01:40:53.740 that means you,

01:40:54.300 hang on, almost done.

01:40:55.900 The entailment of that

01:40:57.220 is that you would be

01:40:58.920 willing to put him

01:40:59.500 in a situation

01:41:00.120 where he takes damage

01:41:01.120 on behalf of just your honor.

01:41:03.740 Describe a situation

01:41:04.780 like that.

01:41:05.180 If someone was attacking

01:41:06.280 my honor,

01:41:07.300 how am I putting him

01:41:08.880 in that situation?

01:41:10.780 I'm not going out

01:41:11.660 of my way.

01:41:12.160 I actually have a scenario

01:41:13.340 that goes perfect

01:41:14.480 with this.

01:41:15.040 Okay.

01:41:15.340 I'm going to explain

01:41:16.260 so that you understand

01:41:17.040 because your expectation

01:41:19.560 for him is that

01:41:21.220 he has a duty

01:41:22.040 to defend your honor.

01:41:23.900 So if that's the case,

01:41:25.480 if he has a duty

01:41:26.440 to do this,

01:41:27.320 then you have

01:41:28.780 the expectation

01:41:29.420 that he's willing

01:41:30.520 to put himself at risk

01:41:31.900 just to defend

01:41:33.420 your honor,

01:41:34.260 we're not even talking

01:41:35.000 about a bullet

01:41:36.940 at this point,

01:41:37.660 just your honor

01:41:38.820 could actually

01:41:39.500 get this guy killed,

01:41:40.540 right?

01:41:41.040 Potentially it could.

01:41:42.180 I also have a duty

01:41:43.560 to defend his honor

01:41:44.560 as well.

01:41:45.480 Yeah, but you're not

01:41:46.060 going to be able

01:41:46.480 to defend it

01:41:47.080 the same way,

01:41:47.640 are you?

01:41:47.920 You're not going

01:41:48.220 to be able to,

01:41:48.660 for instance,

01:41:49.080 if a guy is bad

01:41:50.180 mouthing him or something,

01:41:51.060 you're not going

01:41:51.320 to be able to walk

01:41:51.840 over and punch him

01:41:52.540 in the face.

01:41:53.660 It's not going

01:41:54.260 to be very effective,

01:41:55.080 is it?

01:41:55.520 But he can do that

01:41:56.620 on behalf of you,

01:41:58.260 on behalf for a male,

01:42:00.300 right?

01:42:00.500 He can actually do that.

01:42:01.460 someone's honor

01:42:02.080 without it leading

01:42:03.300 to violence.

01:42:04.320 Yeah, but that's not

01:42:05.140 what we were talking

01:42:05.920 about.

01:42:06.240 Well, it's interesting

01:42:07.020 that you said...

01:42:07.940 Hang on, hang on,

01:42:08.820 I'm almost done.

01:42:09.640 And by the way,

01:42:10.280 the situation

01:42:10.880 that you're talking

01:42:11.540 about when you said

01:42:12.400 that actually happened

01:42:13.160 to me,

01:42:13.800 I'm guessing included

01:42:14.700 violence, didn't it?

01:42:17.120 Do you want to hear

01:42:18.220 about the situation?

01:42:19.400 Did it include violence?

01:42:21.160 Well, yeah, but not...

01:42:22.640 Yeah, that's what

01:42:23.300 I kind of figured.

01:42:24.200 Okay, so do you think

01:42:25.640 that he shouldn't then?

01:42:27.940 Do you think

01:42:28.340 that he shouldn't

01:42:29.140 defend my honor?

01:42:29.660 Well, it's not a question

01:42:30.860 for me,

01:42:31.680 it was a question

01:42:32.400 for you.

01:42:33.200 So I'm just giving you

01:42:34.280 the entailment

01:42:34.920 of your logic.

01:42:35.680 The entailment

01:42:36.160 of your logic is,

01:42:37.700 wait a second,

01:42:38.920 it's equal.

01:42:39.720 I would take a bullet

01:42:40.320 for him,

01:42:40.700 he would take a bullet

01:42:41.300 for me,

01:42:42.240 and yet when we get

01:42:43.040 down to the nitty-gritty,

01:42:44.220 you believe that you're

01:42:44.960 an honorable person

01:42:45.900 and you therefore believe

01:42:47.520 that your honor

01:42:48.260 should be defended

01:42:49.100 by a man.

01:42:50.180 This means,

01:42:51.000 if that's true,

01:42:51.980 that you're willing

01:42:52.460 to put a man

01:42:53.100 in harm's way

01:42:53.960 just for the purposes

01:42:55.140 of your honor.

01:42:56.000 That is putting

01:42:56.560 so many words

01:42:57.400 in my mouth,

01:42:58.420 but I also

01:42:59.560 can defend

01:43:00.360 my own honor.

01:43:01.280 I'm just giving you

01:43:01.800 an entailment

01:43:02.360 of your logic.

01:43:02.800 I can also defend

01:43:02.820 my own honor,

01:43:03.820 and that is not,

01:43:04.700 that's not how logic works.

01:43:06.060 You can't just say

01:43:06.800 that I'm willing

01:43:07.520 to put my...

01:43:07.540 Oh, tell me how logic works.

01:43:08.820 Give me one,

01:43:09.440 give me one rule

01:43:11.060 of law of logic.

01:43:12.220 Give me one law

01:43:12.860 of logic.

01:43:13.720 One.

01:43:14.780 It's based in fact.

01:43:16.600 In truth.

01:43:17.440 What?

01:43:18.600 What?

01:43:20.320 Can you give me

01:43:21.060 a single law of logic?

01:43:23.040 Can you?

01:43:24.240 Yes.

01:43:24.760 Okay, so this is semantics.

01:43:26.580 This is semantics.

01:43:27.880 You're putting words

01:43:28.580 in my mouth.

01:43:29.520 I also can defend

01:43:30.580 my honor.

01:43:30.860 I'll answer your question.

01:43:32.140 Let me give you

01:43:32.560 the laws of logic

01:43:33.260 so that you understand them.

01:43:34.540 The first is the law

01:43:35.700 of non-contradiction.

01:43:36.700 The second is the law

01:43:37.580 of excluded middle.

01:43:39.240 Right?

01:43:39.480 Would you like...

01:43:40.240 How many would you like?

01:43:41.740 Would you like to get

01:43:42.440 into informal logic as well?

01:43:44.000 Yeah, go for it.

01:43:44.540 Would you like to get

01:43:45.060 into the law of identity?

01:43:46.220 That's the third law.

01:43:47.040 What else would you like?

01:43:48.800 That's semantics

01:43:49.540 at this point.

01:43:50.600 No, no, that's literally

01:43:51.860 the opposite of semantics.

01:43:53.400 Do you know

01:43:53.640 what semantics are?

01:43:54.980 Because that's not semantics.

01:43:57.800 Okay.

01:43:58.740 Can you help me out?

01:43:59.380 Natalia's enjoying this one.

01:44:01.380 She has so much

01:44:02.440 to say.

01:44:02.840 Here, you guys can...

01:44:04.080 Let me just get

01:44:05.060 everybody's answer on this

01:44:06.340 and we can come back.

01:44:07.040 What was the question?

01:44:07.900 I would like to come back to this.

01:44:09.820 Oh, you want to keep going?

01:44:11.140 Okay, here, go for it.

01:44:12.320 I just want to clarify

01:44:13.260 that by me saying

01:44:14.580 that I would want my man

01:44:16.240 to defend my honor

01:44:17.180 is not me purposefully

01:44:18.860 putting him in harm's way.

01:44:20.140 I can also...

01:44:21.020 I'm fully capable

01:44:21.600 of defending my own honor

01:44:24.040 as well.

01:44:24.640 And I did say

01:44:25.700 that I would be willing

01:44:26.520 to defend his honor,

01:44:27.440 but you said

01:44:27.900 it wouldn't be effective.

01:44:29.180 So that's...

01:44:31.600 Yeah, I found that interesting

01:44:32.900 that you literally said

01:44:34.340 that she would not be able to.

01:44:36.360 In the same way

01:44:38.140 said it would be about...

01:44:39.080 No, no, no.

01:44:40.180 Just let me respond.

01:44:41.160 Let me respond.

01:44:41.800 Go ahead, Andrew.

01:44:42.320 Yeah, let me respond.

01:44:43.580 So the entailment,

01:44:45.300 it is an entailment

01:44:46.660 of your logic

01:44:47.740 so that you understand

01:44:49.260 if you make the claim

01:44:50.720 that you have honor

01:44:52.220 and a man needs

01:44:53.300 to defend that honor,

01:44:54.960 the entailment of that

01:44:56.240 is that he's going

01:44:56.920 to get put in harm's way.

01:44:57.940 I don't know

01:44:58.320 how you get out of that.

01:44:59.520 That is basic

01:45:00.360 deductive reasoning.

01:45:02.240 I also said

01:45:03.160 that I would be willing

01:45:03.780 to defend his honor,

01:45:05.040 but you said

01:45:05.440 it wouldn't be effective.

01:45:06.100 Yeah, but what does that

01:45:06.620 have to do with anything?

01:45:07.700 Even if that's true,

01:45:08.660 it does not negate

01:45:09.700 the point of the entailment

01:45:10.880 of your logic.

01:45:11.860 And someone is attacking

01:45:12.880 someone that you respect,

01:45:14.120 you would be willing

01:45:15.080 to defend their honor.

01:45:16.060 That's just...

01:45:17.680 A man also has honor.

01:45:19.340 Hold on.

01:45:19.940 Okay, okay.

01:45:20.440 I'm moving it on.

01:45:21.360 Go ahead.

01:45:21.840 Answer the question.

01:45:24.660 What was it?

01:45:25.340 Would I take a bullet?

01:45:27.200 What's the question?

01:45:28.060 What was the question?

01:45:29.300 Would you want a guy

01:45:30.220 to sacrifice his life for you,

01:45:32.220 take a bullet for you?

01:45:33.780 Oh, God.

01:45:34.400 Like right in front of me?

01:45:36.100 No.

01:45:38.040 So you'll take the bullet?

01:45:40.460 Oh, gosh.

01:45:41.480 Okay, here's a...

01:45:42.160 Perhaps here's

01:45:42.740 another way to frame it.

01:45:44.240 Would you date a guy

01:45:44.960 who wasn't willing

01:45:46.000 to sacrifice his life for you?

01:45:47.800 Assuming you've been dating

01:45:48.740 for two years

01:45:49.980 or you're married.

01:45:50.860 No, I would.

01:45:55.460 I mean, like,

01:45:56.020 because the expectation

01:45:57.380 would probably be...

01:45:58.920 And as he said,

01:45:59.940 that I wouldn't be able

01:46:01.120 to defend his honor

01:46:02.760 in the same way, but...

01:46:03.740 Forget the honor thing.

01:46:04.600 Sure, but it's, you know...

01:46:05.960 Just answer the actual question.

01:46:09.800 Well, I think of, like,

01:46:10.960 my friends who I love

01:46:12.180 and I would take a bullet

01:46:13.100 for them.

01:46:13.780 Would you?

01:46:14.520 I would.

01:46:15.040 And so if I were to be

01:46:17.020 in a committed relationship

01:46:19.180 with somebody,

01:46:20.200 with a man,

01:46:21.320 and I would feel

01:46:22.060 that way about him,

01:46:22.780 I would want him

01:46:23.300 to feel the same way

01:46:24.060 about me.

01:46:24.640 But, okay,

01:46:25.040 isn't there a gender

01:46:25.980 expectation for men

01:46:27.240 to protect women?

01:46:28.380 Who are these people

01:46:29.320 who are coming up to me

01:46:30.580 and being like,

01:46:31.440 you are your boyfriend?

01:46:32.660 Like, choose now.

01:46:33.740 Like, that's not

01:46:34.380 a hypothetical

01:46:35.020 that I'm ever...

01:46:36.040 But it's a mentality.

01:46:37.600 Yeah, it is a mentality.

01:46:38.660 And I'm not saying

01:46:39.500 I expect somebody

01:46:40.500 to die for me, but...

01:46:41.340 Let me just help.

01:46:41.800 Let me help you guys.

01:46:42.560 Like a burglary.

01:46:43.220 Hold on.

01:46:44.040 Let me help you guys here.

01:46:44.480 Yeah, I need some help.

01:46:45.880 Let me help you guys

01:46:46.680 so you can have an enemy.

01:46:50.400 I would not be willing...

01:46:52.680 I don't care

01:46:53.160 if she's my girlfriend

01:46:53.840 or wife.

01:46:54.980 I would not be willing

01:46:56.280 in that scenario

01:46:57.840 to take a bullet for her.

01:46:59.740 I would not die

01:47:00.560 for my girlfriend or wife.

01:47:02.040 Would you watch her

01:47:02.680 die in front of you?

01:47:03.480 If in a hypothetical scenario

01:47:04.940 it's me or her,

01:47:06.480 she can take the bullet.

01:47:07.700 Okay.

01:47:08.400 Absolutely.

01:47:08.980 I'm not taking it for her.

01:47:10.140 Have you been in love?

01:47:10.800 Scoot your mic.

01:47:11.600 Scoot your mic.

01:47:12.300 Have you been in love

01:47:13.000 with somebody before?

01:47:13.840 Yeah, I've been in love.

01:47:14.820 And you would let her die?

01:47:16.720 These women...

01:47:18.600 Something spilled?

01:47:19.560 No, it's up to you.

01:47:20.260 You're single?

01:47:22.640 I don't disclose

01:47:23.620 my relationship status.

01:47:25.180 Oh, my God.

01:47:26.000 Why?

01:47:27.040 I'm not going to put

01:47:27.760 words in your mouth,

01:47:28.360 so I'm just going to ask

01:47:29.120 and you can tell me

01:47:29.700 if this is correct.

01:47:30.300 Go ahead.

01:47:31.140 You would probably prefer

01:47:33.200 a woman who respects herself

01:47:35.140 and has, you know,

01:47:36.880 confidence,

01:47:37.600 high self-esteem.

01:47:39.140 Yeah.

01:47:40.020 He would.

01:47:40.800 I think.

01:47:41.720 Do you want a woman

01:47:43.000 who respects herself

01:47:44.080 or doesn't respect herself?

01:47:45.340 Do you think

01:47:45.700 a self-respecting woman

01:47:46.880 would look for that

01:47:49.180 in a partner?

01:47:49.980 Don't care.

01:47:50.260 For them to blatantly say...

01:47:51.100 Don't care.

01:47:52.340 Okay, so...

01:47:53.700 She can respect herself.

01:47:54.700 Yeah, I'd prefer to date

01:47:55.560 a woman who respects herself.

01:47:56.660 Sure.

01:47:57.240 I don't really see

01:47:57.840 how that's related.

01:47:58.700 Okay, so if we're talking

01:47:59.460 about like high value women...

01:48:00.520 So now...

01:48:01.080 Okay, so because I've

01:48:02.440 taken this position,

01:48:03.640 now you guys can actually

01:48:04.760 answer the question.

01:48:05.840 So what you're saying is

01:48:06.980 in order for a woman

01:48:08.120 to respect herself,

01:48:10.180 she would only date

01:48:11.600 a man who would be willing

01:48:13.280 to sacrifice his life

01:48:14.660 for his partner.

01:48:15.980 I'm not necessarily saying that.

01:48:17.380 I'm more so asking

01:48:18.820 like the kind of women

01:48:19.740 that you would want

01:48:21.380 to attract, right?

01:48:22.480 Because what you put out there

01:48:23.580 you also attract.

01:48:24.380 Yeah, so what you're...

01:48:25.440 So is your position,

01:48:26.880 a woman who doesn't

01:48:27.960 respect herself

01:48:28.820 would be willing

01:48:29.700 to date someone like me?

01:48:32.100 Because...

01:48:32.980 Ignore any other considerations,

01:48:34.640 but just by the fact of...

01:48:35.880 If a woman doesn't...

01:48:36.280 I would not be willing

01:48:37.080 to sacrifice my life

01:48:38.400 for a girl who,

01:48:39.280 for example,

01:48:39.700 I've dated one year.

01:48:40.800 I wouldn't be willing

01:48:41.360 to do it.

01:48:41.840 You said wife also, so...

01:48:42.840 Sure, fine.

01:48:43.720 Two years, three years,

01:48:44.620 ten years, whatever.

01:48:45.480 Don't care.

01:48:46.720 Any period of time.

01:48:47.480 I guess in this situation

01:48:48.480 I would say probably not.

01:48:49.920 She's not self-respecting.

01:48:51.400 Well, if you're actively...

01:48:52.740 So what about a woman...

01:48:53.480 advertising that...

01:48:54.360 I don't think a woman...

01:48:56.160 Yeah.

01:48:56.880 Okay, so then just reverse it.

01:48:58.520 So would a guy

01:49:00.040 not be self-respecting

01:49:02.500 of himself

01:49:03.140 if he wasn't willing

01:49:04.100 to date a woman

01:49:04.860 or if he dated a woman

01:49:07.580 who wasn't willing

01:49:09.420 to take a bullet for him?

01:49:10.460 We've already established

01:49:11.340 that I think men

01:49:12.200 have a higher...

01:49:13.300 Okay, so it's a gender role.

01:49:14.460 Yeah, it's a gender role.

01:49:15.220 Okay.

01:49:17.340 So that's not really

01:49:18.460 your beliefs.

01:49:20.220 Actually, it absolutely is,

01:49:21.480 but did you give your answer?

01:49:23.940 Demi.

01:49:24.360 Huh?

01:49:24.640 Did you give your answer?

01:49:25.500 It worked.

01:49:25.820 Yeah.

01:49:26.380 Didn't I?

01:49:27.080 Did you?

01:49:28.800 You guys can't actually

01:49:29.840 answer this straight.

01:49:30.540 What did I say?

01:49:31.580 That I would expect him

01:49:32.420 to take a bullet?

01:49:33.240 Yeah.

01:49:34.340 You guys say,

01:49:35.120 well, I would do

01:49:35.700 the same thing for him,

01:49:36.740 but you gotta understand

01:49:37.820 this is a one...

01:49:40.040 like only one person

01:49:41.000 can take the bullet.

01:49:43.280 Can I chime in?

01:49:44.280 Go ahead.

01:49:44.660 Do it.

01:49:44.900 I think it's a lose-lose situation

01:49:46.600 because I think

01:49:48.720 if a man did that for me,

01:49:49.940 I would die of a broken heart.

01:49:51.060 If I had to watch

01:49:52.020 the person I love

01:49:52.860 die in front of me,

01:49:54.100 like what would be the point?

01:49:55.340 We weren't allowed

01:49:55.640 to say that one.

01:49:56.240 Whatever.

01:49:56.660 I have the pass.

01:49:57.400 Oh, sorry.

01:49:58.240 I'm a R-slur.

01:49:59.460 I can say it.

01:50:00.160 I have the pass.

01:50:01.580 You would die

01:50:02.360 of a broken heart.

01:50:03.380 Okay.

01:50:03.920 That is so traumatic

01:50:05.000 watching your husband

01:50:06.280 or love him.

01:50:06.560 I think you're overthinking

01:50:07.340 the hypothetical

01:50:08.240 a little bit here.

01:50:09.800 Are we or are you?

01:50:11.420 Like what is...

01:50:12.340 Are we in two separate rooms

01:50:13.700 like we don't have to watch?

01:50:14.760 Like what is the hypothetical?

01:50:15.500 Yeah, it sucks for widows.

01:50:16.760 I get it.

01:50:17.320 Do you think they die

01:50:18.220 like they die too?

01:50:19.460 I would never be the same.

01:50:21.360 I would never be the same.

01:50:22.700 Yeah, but okay.

01:50:23.200 That's totally...

01:50:23.980 That's kind of irrelevant.

01:50:25.700 I would honestly

01:50:26.760 rather take the bullet,

01:50:28.200 I think,

01:50:28.560 because I don't think

01:50:29.120 I could mentally handle that.

01:50:31.180 Yeah, and then

01:50:31.600 to live with the summer?

01:50:32.680 So you'd rather die?

01:50:33.300 Yeah, it would be my time to die.

01:50:34.520 You can mentally handle

01:50:34.680 orgies and shit.

01:50:35.860 You couldn't mentally handle this?

01:50:37.120 Those are fun.

01:50:38.040 Those are fun.

01:50:38.600 Excuse you.

01:50:38.940 Isn't that also extremely

01:50:39.700 damaging to a person's psyche?

01:50:41.400 You can handle all that?

01:50:42.180 It depends how you look at it.

01:50:43.500 Watching someone get murdered

01:50:43.980 is just a little bit different.

01:50:45.100 Yeah, I think it's just

01:50:46.100 a tiny bit of a different thing.

01:50:48.600 Okay.

01:50:49.520 Here, go around the table on this.

01:50:50.760 I need to adjust the camera set.

01:50:51.800 Yeah, I think that

01:50:55.700 there is an expectation

01:50:56.760 on men to protect women.

01:50:59.300 And do I think that that...

01:51:01.740 I think it's extremely noble,

01:51:03.260 extremely honorable,

01:51:04.320 extremely sacrificial.

01:51:06.820 And I think men should be

01:51:08.300 looked up to

01:51:09.080 for that responsibility.

01:51:12.180 So would you prefer

01:51:14.200 the man to take

01:51:14.800 the bullet for you?

01:51:15.880 Yeah, that's it.

01:51:16.340 I would.

01:51:17.180 I would prefer it.

01:51:18.280 Even though, like,

01:51:19.260 I would be a wreck

01:51:20.640 and I would be heartbroken,

01:51:21.740 like, I would be hurt

01:51:24.320 if I was with...

01:51:26.180 I would not want to be

01:51:26.940 with somebody that

01:51:27.840 didn't have that mindset.

01:51:29.720 I agree, yeah.

01:51:32.040 What about you?

01:51:33.620 Yeah, I'd prefer it.

01:51:35.680 Okay.

01:51:36.480 Perhaps this question

01:51:37.380 ought to be framed

01:51:38.140 as would you date a guy

01:51:40.360 who was not willing

01:51:42.100 to sacrifice his life for you?

01:51:43.780 Well, see,

01:51:44.060 that's what I was kind of,

01:51:44.840 like,

01:51:45.800 I would prefer it,

01:51:46.880 but I wouldn't necessarily

01:51:48.540 immediately look down

01:51:50.120 on a man

01:51:50.800 if he didn't.

01:51:53.640 I wouldn't say

01:51:54.600 he was low value

01:51:55.440 just for that reason alone.

01:51:56.700 Yeah, well,

01:51:57.220 because we brought

01:51:57.660 this question up recently

01:51:58.600 and it will kind of

01:51:59.980 somewhat segue

01:52:00.620 into the main topic

01:52:01.520 of the show,

01:52:01.960 the man versus bear thing,

01:52:02.780 but,

01:52:03.540 and I've stated this

01:52:05.440 in two other podcasts

01:52:06.480 so far

01:52:06.920 and it's honestly

01:52:07.520 quite an interesting

01:52:08.180 conversation

01:52:08.780 that we always have

01:52:10.220 on this,

01:52:10.700 but the frequent comments

01:52:13.340 that I get on this

01:52:14.160 is,

01:52:14.800 well,

01:52:15.000 you're less masculine

01:52:15.820 because of it,

01:52:16.760 you're not a real man

01:52:17.440 because of it,

01:52:18.040 you're going to have

01:52:18.540 a hard time finding

01:52:19.260 a woman because of it,

01:52:20.380 women shouldn't date you

01:52:21.360 because of that,

01:52:22.440 so women seem very upset

01:52:25.120 by this idea of men

01:52:26.260 not falling into

01:52:27.280 this disposable role

01:52:29.380 of they ought to sacrifice

01:52:31.220 their life for a woman,

01:52:32.780 but so ultimately

01:52:35.060 at the end of the day,

01:52:36.040 would you,

01:52:37.460 what would you want?

01:52:39.560 Me?

01:52:40.300 Yeah.

01:52:41.240 I mean,

01:52:41.900 I,

01:52:42.180 like I said,

01:52:42.560 I would,

01:52:44.140 sure,

01:52:44.940 it would be nice

01:52:46.160 if I,

01:52:47.660 I would like,

01:52:49.120 I like the idea

01:52:50.020 of a man I'm with

01:52:51.400 caring enough

01:52:52.700 to want to protect me

01:52:53.940 like that,

01:52:54.460 but like I said,

01:52:55.040 I,

01:52:55.360 I don't think,

01:52:56.840 I don't think of a man,

01:52:58.420 like if for whatever reason

01:53:00.600 that conversation

01:53:01.360 somehow got brought up

01:53:02.680 I wouldn't say that,

01:53:05.240 yeah,

01:53:05.480 he's low value

01:53:07.140 or not a real man

01:53:08.860 or anything of that nature

01:53:10.300 just because he

01:53:11.220 wouldn't want to take a bullet.

01:53:13.380 Okay,

01:53:13.720 here's the scenario.

01:53:14.460 Let me change this up

01:53:15.180 a little bit.

01:53:16.140 You've been dating a guy

01:53:16.800 for two years.

01:53:17.440 Jess Gerald donated $200.

01:53:22.080 For the panel,

01:53:23.300 what about you

01:53:24.000 specifically

01:53:24.900 is worth dying for?

01:53:26.980 Okay,

01:53:27.260 we'll go around

01:53:27.860 on that

01:53:28.560 in just a second here,

01:53:29.780 but so the question is

01:53:31.380 you've been dating a guy

01:53:32.660 for two years.

01:53:33.860 This conversation comes up

01:53:35.440 because you watch

01:53:35.940 the whatever podcast

01:53:36.820 and you're like

01:53:37.800 that host is a pussy.

01:53:40.200 I wouldn't say that.

01:53:41.120 And,

01:53:41.200 and then you're like

01:53:42.700 what would you do for me,

01:53:43.600 babe?

01:53:43.980 Would you take a bullet for me?

01:53:45.140 And he's like,

01:53:45.640 nah,

01:53:46.520 he doesn't say whatever.

01:53:47.720 He says it in the most

01:53:48.500 diplomatic way possible.

01:53:49.520 He just says,

01:53:50.080 I love you,

01:53:50.460 babe,

01:53:50.620 but no,

01:53:50.900 I wouldn't do it.

01:53:51.980 Would you break up with him?

01:53:53.040 No.

01:53:53.240 Is it the end of the relationship?

01:53:54.740 No.

01:53:55.680 End of the relationship?

01:53:57.920 Causes serious issues

01:53:58.940 in the relationship?

01:53:59.820 No.

01:54:00.860 No,

01:54:01.140 I don't think it would

01:54:01.660 end the relationship.

01:54:02.960 No.

01:54:04.040 No.

01:54:04.820 If that's the case,

01:54:06.020 if the guy really says that,

01:54:07.180 there's probably other things

01:54:08.440 going on in that relationship

01:54:09.880 that he has fallen short on.

01:54:10.180 Philly donated $200.

01:54:12.900 The delusion,

01:54:13.960 being in the real situation,

01:54:15.100 none of you would.

01:54:16.760 Expecting the man to do it

01:54:18.080 isn't realistic.

01:54:19.280 Only time a man will dive

01:54:20.940 in front of a bullet

01:54:22.040 and die would be

01:54:22.960 for his children.

01:54:24.940 Yeah,

01:54:25.420 that's one scenario

01:54:26.140 where I'd be more inclined

01:54:27.260 to do it,

01:54:28.020 would be for the kids,

01:54:28.880 but not for the lady friend.

01:54:32.140 It's what it is.

01:54:34.100 Going back to Gerald,

01:54:36.020 Gerald,

01:54:37.220 he asks,

01:54:38.960 for the panel,

01:54:39.800 what about you specifically

01:54:41.220 is worth dying for?

01:54:43.700 You can give short answers

01:54:44.880 if you'd like.

01:54:45.460 We'll start with you.

01:54:46.040 Go ahead.

01:54:47.380 My faith.

01:54:48.740 Wait.

01:54:51.500 Your what?

01:54:52.240 Your faith,

01:54:52.820 wait,

01:54:53.180 your faith in your husband?

01:54:55.740 My faith in God.

01:54:56.920 I would die for my faith.

01:54:57.600 The question isn't

01:54:59.820 what you would die for.

01:55:01.760 The question is,

01:55:02.900 what about you

01:55:04.160 makes it worth

01:55:04.960 someone else dying

01:55:05.840 on your behalf?

01:55:07.060 That's the question.

01:55:07.960 I don't think there's

01:55:08.380 a good answer to that.

01:55:09.600 No,

01:55:09.980 I don't know,

01:55:10.920 to be honest.

01:55:11.600 What about you?

01:55:12.460 I don't think

01:55:13.200 that there's anything,

01:55:14.680 yeah.

01:55:15.100 Yeah,

01:55:15.340 I think to like

01:55:15.840 a random stranger,

01:55:17.340 nothing,

01:55:17.880 but to somebody

01:55:18.780 that I had like

01:55:19.500 a very close,

01:55:20.680 personal,

01:55:21.280 intimate relationship,

01:55:23.000 I'm sure they could

01:55:23.660 find many reasons,

01:55:24.540 many things they like

01:55:25.180 about me.

01:55:25.580 I agree with that.

01:55:26.640 I think if I'm

01:55:27.180 the love of someone's life

01:55:28.460 and they were worth,

01:55:29.420 they were willing

01:55:29.940 to make that sacrifice,

01:55:31.420 then it would be

01:55:32.540 important to them

01:55:33.320 and they would see things.

01:55:35.100 Well,

01:55:35.260 what are the,

01:55:35.760 so the,

01:55:38.080 what are the specifics

01:55:39.140 though?

01:55:39.620 What would you say

01:55:40.160 the specifics are

01:55:41.260 that would make you

01:55:42.560 a person who's worth

01:55:43.440 dying for?

01:55:44.340 I'm not specifically

01:55:45.320 saying that I am,

01:55:46.580 but I also think

01:55:47.740 that I'm awesome

01:55:48.360 and whoever ends up

01:55:50.100 with me should probably

01:55:51.220 think that too.

01:55:53.120 What?

01:55:53.900 Sorry.

01:55:54.180 All right,

01:55:55.480 what about you?

01:55:56.040 She's awesome.

01:55:56.440 Yeah,

01:55:56.600 I think this is

01:55:57.240 what the problem

01:55:58.100 or one of the problems

01:55:59.300 with society is,

01:56:00.640 is that I think,

01:56:03.520 and tell me like

01:56:05.640 why this is wrong

01:56:06.760 if it's wrong,

01:56:07.360 but I really think

01:56:08.080 that,

01:56:08.780 it just distracts me more.

01:56:12.420 I think that it's

01:56:13.540 because I'm a woman.

01:56:15.200 So a man,

01:56:17.200 a man should be,

01:56:19.340 huh?

01:56:20.680 Hmm?

01:56:22.720 Yeah,

01:56:23.040 that's my answer.

01:56:23.560 Sorry,

01:56:23.780 sorry.

01:56:24.520 Actually,

01:56:25.000 I'm happy to go down

01:56:26.120 this line.

01:56:26.740 Thank you.

01:56:26.800 Because help me

01:56:28.080 understand it.

01:56:28.860 $200.

01:56:30.420 Of course,

01:56:31.000 these girls expect

01:56:31.980 a man to take

01:56:32.780 a bullet for them

01:56:33.560 so they can step

01:56:34.600 over his corpse

01:56:35.600 and move on

01:56:36.380 to the next

01:56:36.940 swinging deck.

01:56:38.120 Do not expect

01:56:39.080 a man to be

01:56:39.800 a bullet magnet

01:56:40.580 when you are a DJ.

01:56:41.960 Who hurt you

01:56:42.860 and are you an incel?

01:56:44.340 Who hurt you?

01:56:45.620 And are you a prostitute?

01:56:46.700 No,

01:56:47.440 she's not the...

01:56:48.900 No,

01:56:49.620 that's me.

01:56:50.640 That's Demi.

01:56:52.500 That's Demi.

01:56:53.900 Yo,

01:56:54.220 Grid,

01:56:54.480 you don't want

01:56:56.040 to invoke his...

01:56:57.540 You don't want

01:56:58.960 to invoke Grid one's friend.

01:57:01.280 He'll be sending

01:57:02.120 in chats all night.

01:57:04.360 Don't you want that?

01:57:05.180 It's more money.

01:57:05.520 By the way,

01:57:05.880 he's married

01:57:07.120 and he has kids.

01:57:08.060 He's definitely

01:57:08.440 not an incel.

01:57:10.620 Thank you,

01:57:11.140 Grid one.

01:57:11.420 Appreciate it.

01:57:12.220 I wouldn't mind

01:57:12.980 going down this line

01:57:13.860 with you real quick

01:57:14.620 because I kind of

01:57:15.740 enjoy where it's going.

01:57:16.700 So you're talking

01:57:17.560 about the ontology

01:57:18.600 or the being.

01:57:19.460 You're saying that

01:57:20.100 by nature of being a woman,

01:57:21.720 there's possibly

01:57:22.720 some kind of entitlement

01:57:23.720 in society for that,

01:57:24.760 you think?

01:57:27.540 I think that

01:57:28.800 there is an aspect

01:57:30.120 in society

01:57:31.000 where women

01:57:31.480 should be protected.

01:57:32.520 So if it means

01:57:34.060 entitlement,

01:57:34.860 which actually,

01:57:35.360 I think it probably

01:57:35.860 would actually be...

01:57:37.880 I don't like

01:57:38.440 the word entitlement,

01:57:39.560 but I don't know

01:57:40.500 what other word

01:57:41.020 to choose.

01:57:42.280 Well,

01:57:42.540 let's go with entitlement.

01:57:43.520 I think that's a good word

01:57:44.440 and I think that

01:57:45.040 that kind of encapsulates

01:57:46.320 what you're saying.

01:57:47.680 If such a thing

01:57:48.280 is true

01:57:48.780 and you have

01:57:49.340 this type of entitlement,

01:57:50.820 this would give you

01:57:51.640 feminine privilege,

01:57:52.920 wouldn't it?

01:57:56.300 Yeah,

01:57:56.760 I think men

01:57:57.280 do have it worse.

01:57:58.820 I love being a woman.

01:58:00.460 shouldn't men

01:58:01.480 get additional privileges

01:58:02.500 that perhaps

01:58:03.120 women don't get?

01:58:04.340 What privilege

01:58:05.360 are you thinking of?

01:58:06.920 Like,

01:58:07.240 what's an idea

01:58:08.080 of that privilege?

01:58:09.180 The expectation

01:58:09.720 is that they die

01:58:10.720 on behalf of women

01:58:11.500 just because of

01:58:12.280 the ontology

01:58:12.880 of women being women.

01:58:14.100 Well,

01:58:14.320 they do that.

01:58:15.080 They go to war

01:58:15.820 and they do that.

01:58:16.480 I understand,

01:58:17.200 but we're not talking

01:58:17.880 about what they do do.

01:58:18.880 We're talking about

01:58:19.220 what they should do

01:58:20.000 and you're saying

01:58:20.400 they should do it

01:58:21.140 just by via

01:58:21.720 the nature of you

01:58:22.420 being a woman.

01:58:23.180 Okay,

01:58:23.540 fair enough.

01:58:24.000 I can grant,

01:58:24.460 hang on,

01:58:25.220 I can grant that

01:58:25.860 that's true,

01:58:27.020 but if it is true,

01:58:28.540 then shouldn't they

01:58:29.020 get some kind

01:58:29.540 of additional privileges

01:58:30.460 on top of that?

01:58:31.400 Shouldn't they be

01:58:32.300 kind of heralded

01:58:33.600 in society?

01:58:34.700 I do think that.

01:58:35.920 Yeah.

01:58:36.360 I think that's part

01:58:37.460 of the problem

01:58:38.000 is that we're not

01:58:38.880 looking up to men.

01:58:40.080 We're not respecting men.

01:58:41.180 I agree.

01:58:41.340 We're not...

01:58:43.040 You can show it.

01:58:44.640 Keep going,

01:58:45.080 keep going.

01:58:45.460 Don't worry.

01:58:46.600 I think that that

01:58:47.420 is part of the problem

01:58:48.680 and it's like a

01:58:50.040 cause and effect

01:58:51.760 type thing

01:58:52.380 where women

01:58:53.480 are being devalued

01:58:55.540 because men

01:58:56.240 are not being valued.

01:58:58.060 Like they should be.

01:58:58.940 I also think

01:58:59.540 it's like the

01:59:00.080 sassy man apocalypse

01:59:01.080 out here

01:59:01.680 and that's why

01:59:02.300 women are doing

01:59:03.620 things like OnlyFans

01:59:04.760 these days.

01:59:05.900 Wait,

01:59:05.920 it's men's fault?

01:59:06.880 No,

01:59:07.160 I'm not saying that.

01:59:07.840 I'm not saying that.

01:59:08.800 I can take ownership.

01:59:09.700 I make my own decisions

01:59:10.500 but I do think that...

01:59:12.600 Go girl.

01:59:13.420 Is it sassy man apocalypse

01:59:15.180 to not want to die

01:59:16.700 for your girlfriend?

01:59:18.260 No,

01:59:18.500 not necessarily.

01:59:19.240 I don't really have

01:59:19.880 a strong opinion

01:59:20.480 on that either way.

01:59:21.120 Am I sassy man

01:59:21.720 for not wanting to...

01:59:22.940 Some people might think

01:59:23.820 that.

01:59:24.140 I don't really do that.

01:59:25.020 I think something's wrong

01:59:26.520 there though.

01:59:26.740 You're sassy for a lot of reasons.

01:59:27.740 I think that something

01:59:29.040 is wrong with your sassy.

01:59:29.420 I think when you say

01:59:30.320 sassy,

01:59:31.580 you just mean

01:59:31.960 doesn't put up

01:59:32.520 with your shit.

01:59:33.300 I think that that's

01:59:33.960 what that means.

01:59:34.740 No,

01:59:34.960 I think it's like

01:59:35.440 the men who want

01:59:35.920 to be catered to.

01:59:36.500 It just means guy

01:59:36.740 doesn't put up

01:59:37.400 with your shit

01:59:37.780 that makes him sassy.

01:59:39.220 No,

01:59:39.480 it probably should be that.

01:59:41.380 Here,

01:59:41.800 let's get everybody's

01:59:42.800 answer to this

01:59:43.380 because I do want

01:59:43.880 to get into the main thing.

01:59:44.880 We will come back

01:59:45.580 to the bullet conversation

01:59:46.620 though.

01:59:47.220 I'm kind of confused

01:59:47.920 on what the new question

01:59:48.560 is now.

01:59:49.080 Wait,

01:59:49.500 no,

01:59:49.700 we went around

01:59:50.220 on this.

01:59:51.040 Madison,

01:59:51.560 I think we're just

01:59:52.220 left with you.

01:59:52.620 He said he wanted

01:59:52.900 to engage on

01:59:53.980 the origin.

01:59:56.600 We'll come back

01:59:57.340 to that

01:59:57.600 just so we can

01:59:58.300 get to the bear thing.

01:59:59.280 I actually like

02:00:00.120 oddly agree

02:00:01.080 with your position

02:00:02.200 on this

02:00:02.800 and I can like

02:00:03.700 explain myself

02:00:04.640 why.

02:00:05.200 So Frankie

02:00:06.400 and I have actually

02:00:07.120 had this conversation

02:00:07.940 like before

02:00:08.520 the question

02:00:09.460 was even proposed

02:00:10.200 on the show

02:00:10.780 but personally,

02:00:12.640 obviously,

02:00:13.020 we'd want to have

02:00:13.700 a future together

02:00:14.540 and children

02:00:15.480 so I would take

02:00:16.840 the bullet

02:00:17.260 personally

02:00:18.800 because I think

02:00:20.020 that he would

02:00:20.760 be mentally stronger

02:00:21.700 to take care

02:00:22.700 of the children

02:00:23.160 afterwards.

02:00:24.180 I think I'm

02:00:25.000 a lot weaker

02:00:25.620 so after he died

02:00:27.820 it'd be harder

02:00:28.320 for me to

02:00:29.740 just like

02:00:30.980 live without him

02:00:31.800 and take care

02:00:32.840 of our children.

02:00:33.360 This is if you have kids,

02:00:33.500 correct?

02:00:33.940 Yeah.

02:00:34.540 Okay.

02:00:35.580 And just like

02:00:36.400 even about the

02:00:37.140 honorable question

02:00:37.880 like I do think

02:00:38.780 I am honorable

02:00:39.480 but I

02:00:40.900 think he's more

02:00:42.540 honorable.

02:00:43.100 Yeah.

02:00:43.440 I mean so this is

02:00:44.320 actually one of

02:00:45.080 the arguments I make

02:00:47.620 even in the scenario

02:00:49.120 let's say we have

02:00:49.940 two kids together

02:00:50.860 you could

02:00:51.640 if we look to men

02:00:53.600 to be providers

02:00:54.340 and protectors

02:00:55.260 well then

02:00:56.880 if we're looking

02:00:59.440 at this from

02:00:59.960 this new angle

02:01:00.660 of what's best

02:01:01.280 for the children

02:01:01.920 then

02:01:02.240 I think

02:01:03.660 and we know

02:01:04.500 the outcomes

02:01:05.180 of comparing

02:01:05.900 single father

02:01:06.540 households

02:01:06.900 as compared

02:01:07.480 to single mother

02:01:08.100 households

02:01:09.020 children raised

02:01:10.760 in single father

02:01:11.460 households

02:01:11.940 tend to fare

02:01:12.500 far better

02:01:13.100 than the reverse.

02:01:14.960 There's actually

02:01:15.740 a very compelling

02:01:16.420 argument to be made

02:01:17.320 that actually

02:01:17.920 it's better

02:01:19.160 if the father

02:01:20.640 survives

02:01:21.320 in these circumstances.

02:01:22.900 But if his role

02:01:23.620 is to be a protector

02:01:24.560 wouldn't he have

02:01:25.080 already failed

02:01:25.740 at that role

02:01:26.400 and therefore

02:01:26.960 not be

02:01:27.740 a suitable

02:01:29.440 protector

02:01:29.820 for the children?

02:01:31.240 Well you could

02:01:31.660 That's a good point.

02:01:32.860 You're making

02:01:33.500 some assumptions there

02:01:34.460 I mean

02:01:34.780 who's to say

02:01:36.320 that he

02:01:37.640 would fail

02:01:38.540 at protecting

02:01:39.160 the children

02:01:39.840 moving forward?

02:01:40.340 I don't think

02:01:40.740 necessarily

02:01:41.320 I get what you

02:01:42.240 mean but I feel

02:01:43.580 like if the father

02:01:45.260 which I do feel

02:01:45.960 in most

02:01:47.220 not all

02:01:47.740 cases

02:01:48.140 are usually

02:01:48.960 more of the

02:01:49.580 provider

02:01:50.220 for the family

02:01:50.920 in general

02:01:51.460 that they're

02:01:53.380 going to be able

02:01:53.920 to continue

02:01:54.520 still providing

02:01:55.440 for their children

02:01:56.420 whereas let's say

02:01:57.520 it was a stay

02:01:57.940 at home mom

02:01:58.600 now what?

02:02:00.720 Well

02:02:00.900 I mean we can do

02:02:01.640 let's say all day

02:02:02.540 to provide a little

02:02:03.400 pushback

02:02:04.800 on the other end

02:02:05.400 of the table

02:02:05.820 to the question

02:02:06.580 which is asked

02:02:07.820 to Brian

02:02:08.200 and forgive me

02:02:09.960 I'll steal me

02:02:10.920 in the position

02:02:11.380 you can tell me

02:02:11.800 if I got this

02:02:12.300 question wrong

02:02:12.840 but you asked

02:02:13.400 wouldn't the man

02:02:14.020 already have failed

02:02:15.080 in his position

02:02:15.820 as a protector

02:02:16.600 if this happens

02:02:17.720 but that's actually

02:02:19.320 a straw man

02:02:19.960 to Brian's position

02:02:21.140 because Brian

02:02:22.260 already laid down

02:02:23.260 that men have

02:02:24.080 no obligation

02:02:24.820 to protect women

02:02:25.820 he said that

02:02:26.540 he would lay down

02:02:27.300 his life

02:02:27.640 maybe for his

02:02:28.320 children

02:02:28.680 so it actually

02:02:29.760 logically follows

02:02:30.720 what he's saying

02:02:31.500 when he says

02:02:32.240 no I'm not going

02:02:33.880 to lay down

02:02:34.380 my life for a woman

02:02:35.200 so how would he

02:02:36.140 fail at his job

02:02:36.820 as a protector

02:02:37.340 when he doesn't

02:02:38.020 believe that

02:02:38.480 that's his

02:02:38.980 obligation

02:02:39.620 you believe your

02:02:40.520 role as a father

02:02:42.000 is to be a provider

02:02:43.260 and a protector

02:02:43.820 but not as

02:02:44.600 to your wife

02:02:45.280 not to the mother

02:02:46.680 of your children

02:02:47.220 there's two different

02:02:47.620 things here

02:02:48.080 I think

02:02:49.520 you can absolutely

02:02:50.480 still be a protector

02:02:52.320 but if there's

02:02:54.400 some scenario

02:02:55.100 where the calculus

02:02:56.280 is well

02:02:57.060 if my role

02:02:59.140 as protector

02:02:59.860 would

02:03:00.580 it's not even

02:03:01.460 necessarily

02:03:01.860 the role

02:03:02.400 as protector

02:03:03.020 like you could

02:03:03.980 still protect

02:03:04.560 her with the

02:03:05.400 hoped

02:03:07.240 or anticipated

02:03:07.980 outcome

02:03:08.440 that you both

02:03:08.980 still survive

02:03:09.720 but in some

02:03:10.940 scenario

02:03:11.340 where one of you

02:03:12.520 has to die

02:03:13.340 I don't think

02:03:14.240 it has anything

02:03:14.760 really to do

02:03:15.860 with protection

02:03:17.760 necessarily

02:03:18.540 if she's the one

02:03:19.880 who has to die

02:03:21.380 yeah I mean

02:03:23.880 I think it's also

02:03:24.880 on a case-to-case

02:03:25.600 basis

02:03:25.960 because there are

02:03:27.240 a lot of situations

02:03:28.000 where the man

02:03:28.620 is more financially

02:03:29.560 you know

02:03:30.360 makes more money

02:03:31.080 but then there's

02:03:32.140 also the opposite

02:03:32.960 so if you want

02:03:33.900 to really sit down

02:03:34.860 and talk to your

02:03:35.460 partner about that

02:03:36.280 that's maybe one thing

02:03:37.360 but

02:03:37.580 well men are typically

02:03:38.720 the breadwinner

02:03:39.340 typically

02:03:39.840 not always though

02:03:40.820 certainly there are

02:03:41.460 women who

02:03:41.920 who are

02:03:42.960 breadwinners too

02:03:44.300 but

02:03:44.680 yeah

02:03:44.920 well like I said

02:03:45.820 it's a case-to-case

02:03:46.400 basis because

02:03:47.080 like for example

02:03:47.980 my dad made more money

02:03:48.920 but I would have been

02:03:49.980 way better off

02:03:50.500 just being raised

02:03:50.980 by my mom

02:03:51.440 because money

02:03:52.420 wasn't as important

02:03:53.360 as

02:03:53.760 were you raised

02:03:54.660 by your father

02:03:55.300 um I was raised

02:03:56.420 by well

02:03:57.020 my parents

02:03:57.460 are divorced

02:03:58.200 but I was

02:03:58.660 mostly raised

02:03:59.300 by my mom

02:03:59.920 but my dad

02:04:00.740 would not have

02:04:01.420 been able to

02:04:02.280 sure

02:04:02.920 emotionally

02:04:03.600 I'm not

02:04:04.920 now I'm not

02:04:05.520 saying that

02:04:06.200 even though he

02:04:06.920 made more money

02:04:07.520 there's more

02:04:08.020 important things

02:04:08.740 you're taking love

02:04:09.560 out of the equation

02:04:10.360 are fathers

02:04:11.900 incapable of loving

02:04:12.940 their children

02:04:13.400 no it's just

02:04:13.920 your argument

02:04:14.480 doesn't take love

02:04:15.640 into account

02:04:16.360 it just talks

02:04:17.060 about how

02:04:17.780 you're the provider

02:04:18.620 and the protector

02:04:19.080 for the children

02:04:19.800 first and foremost

02:04:20.760 how

02:04:21.520 how the outcome

02:04:24.020 would be

02:04:24.620 you know

02:04:25.300 if you needed

02:04:26.560 to provide

02:04:27.220 for the children

02:04:27.900 and I think

02:04:28.620 like you're taking

02:04:29.300 providing

02:04:29.900 and looking at

02:04:30.940 that as like

02:04:31.620 like monetarily

02:04:32.920 is equal to love

02:04:34.920 basically

02:04:35.620 but it's not

02:04:36.320 that sounds like

02:04:37.140 you're making

02:04:37.560 an argument

02:04:38.260 that the man

02:04:39.720 is far more

02:04:40.380 disposable

02:04:40.840 than the woman

02:04:41.580 no I'm saying

02:04:43.080 that it's a

02:04:44.820 case to case

02:04:45.320 basis

02:04:45.720 because money

02:04:47.020 is not the most

02:04:47.700 important thing

02:04:48.240 in a child's life

02:04:49.140 sure

02:04:49.940 so if it's a

02:04:50.580 case-by-case basis

02:04:51.700 then Brian

02:04:53.340 would be right

02:04:54.020 in saying

02:04:54.520 that he should

02:04:55.080 not immediately

02:04:55.720 move towards

02:04:56.540 the self-sacrifice

02:04:57.680 because in his

02:04:59.200 particular case

02:04:59.820 especially it may

02:05:00.600 be the case

02:05:01.180 that that would

02:05:01.660 not be in the

02:05:02.280 best interest

02:05:02.700 of the children

02:05:03.260 who he would

02:05:03.820 make the sacrifice

02:05:04.540 for right

02:05:05.260 he I'm not

02:05:07.400 saying he's wrong

02:05:08.180 for feeling that

02:05:09.060 way about himself

02:05:09.660 like that's

02:05:10.800 about not being

02:05:11.500 willing to take

02:05:12.040 the bullet

02:05:12.380 yeah you can

02:05:12.920 have that

02:05:13.460 oh I know

02:05:14.160 I think we can

02:05:15.080 all agree that

02:05:15.700 you all think

02:05:16.760 I'm entitled

02:05:17.880 to have that

02:05:18.560 position

02:05:19.000 but I think

02:05:19.900 you all object

02:05:21.000 to the

02:05:21.780 position

02:05:22.260 no

02:05:23.200 come on

02:05:24.300 you guys

02:05:24.700 you guys

02:05:25.400 all object

02:05:25.800 as a man

02:05:28.020 there's been

02:05:29.260 a lot of

02:05:29.720 subtle objection

02:05:30.660 whether you see

02:05:31.260 it or not

02:05:31.780 the pushback

02:05:33.200 to Brian

02:05:33.980 has definitely

02:05:34.760 been

02:05:35.300 seemingly

02:05:36.200 now this is

02:05:37.060 seeming

02:05:37.520 so this would

02:05:37.940 be inductive

02:05:38.840 logic

02:05:39.240 not deductive

02:05:40.140 for those of

02:05:40.720 you on that

02:05:41.120 side of the

02:05:41.460 table

02:05:41.720 but it does

02:05:42.960 seem like

02:05:43.380 you are

02:05:43.640 pushing back

02:05:44.500 on his

02:05:45.820 on his

02:05:46.500 worldview

02:05:49.900 what the

02:05:50.060 show is

02:05:50.300 for

02:05:50.580 but I

02:05:51.640 mean I'd

02:05:52.140 like to

02:05:52.400 hear it

02:05:52.840 yeah I

02:05:53.700 object to

02:05:54.360 that worldview

02:05:54.960 that I

02:05:56.240 wouldn't be

02:05:56.540 willing to

02:05:57.180 sacrifice my

02:05:58.860 life for

02:05:59.280 yeah I

02:05:59.960 think that

02:06:00.460 there's

02:06:00.740 probably

02:06:01.220 not the

02:06:06.080 right value

02:06:07.820 maybe that

02:06:08.520 you're going

02:06:08.740 to put on

02:06:09.340 your marriage

02:06:10.000 that's fine

02:06:11.080 one last

02:06:12.180 thing on

02:06:12.460 this

02:06:12.620 we will get

02:06:13.460 to the

02:06:13.680 bear versus

02:06:14.060 man thing

02:06:14.560 as soon as

02:06:15.100 we get past

02:06:16.500 this

02:06:16.780 do you

02:06:17.760 think

02:06:18.140 because one

02:06:18.860 of the

02:06:19.040 criticisms I

02:06:19.780 receive when

02:06:20.300 I bring up

02:06:20.700 this argument

02:06:21.140 quite a bit

02:06:21.720 sometimes from

02:06:23.320 the panel

02:06:23.740 but oftentimes

02:06:24.780 from the chat

02:06:25.640 they're like

02:06:26.040 Brian you're

02:06:27.300 a beta male

02:06:28.300 for not being

02:06:29.680 willing to

02:06:30.220 sacrifice your

02:06:31.200 life for your

02:06:32.560 woman I don't

02:06:33.100 give a fuck

02:06:33.620 I don't care

02:06:34.260 I disagree

02:06:35.140 with what he's

02:06:35.820 done people

02:06:36.360 do you guys

02:06:38.360 think it's

02:06:38.920 it's less

02:06:40.100 I think I

02:06:40.820 don't like the

02:06:41.420 beta alpha

02:06:42.100 thing I don't

02:06:43.820 care I don't

02:06:44.280 use that kind

02:06:45.100 of language

02:06:45.500 really but

02:06:45.980 just for

02:06:46.820 simplicity

02:06:47.220 sake do

02:06:49.400 you think

02:06:50.040 that it

02:06:50.760 would be

02:06:51.260 so-called

02:06:52.940 less alpha

02:06:53.960 to be

02:06:55.040 unwilling to

02:06:57.120 die for

02:06:57.840 your wife

02:06:59.000 or girlfriend

02:06:59.580 would it be

02:07:00.120 would it be

02:07:00.600 a beta male

02:07:01.940 yeah

02:07:02.280 starting with

02:07:03.480 you

02:07:03.680 it's hard

02:07:05.920 to say

02:07:06.220 because like

02:07:06.960 alpha is

02:07:08.020 so like

02:07:08.940 animal kingdom

02:07:09.600 and animal

02:07:10.040 kingdom is all

02:07:10.520 about survival

02:07:11.120 we are

02:07:11.720 well and

02:07:12.100 actually so

02:07:12.660 if you want

02:07:13.420 to survive

02:07:14.060 as an alpha

02:07:15.380 male

02:07:15.760 then you

02:07:16.700 would not

02:07:17.180 want to

02:07:17.440 take the

02:07:17.720 bullet

02:07:17.980 and that's

02:07:19.220 it is kind

02:07:19.720 of a good

02:07:19.960 point

02:07:20.280 well that's

02:07:21.040 that's kind

02:07:21.760 of a little

02:07:22.340 bit

02:07:22.540 but not

02:07:22.900 no because

02:07:23.520 lions

02:07:24.120 the that's

02:07:24.980 what the

02:07:25.300 male lion

02:07:26.060 is for

02:07:26.600 is to

02:07:26.940 like defend

02:07:27.520 the girls

02:07:28.360 no the

02:07:28.940 female

02:07:29.260 yeah

02:07:29.560 they actually

02:07:30.100 the females

02:07:31.340 hunt

02:07:33.040 but the

02:07:33.960 it's when

02:07:34.640 another male

02:07:35.320 lion

02:07:35.700 comes in

02:07:36.100 and the

02:07:36.420 other

02:07:36.580 male

02:07:36.900 lion

02:07:37.320 goes in

02:07:37.740 and actually

02:07:38.720 just one

02:07:39.360 thing on the

02:07:39.740 whole alpha

02:07:40.220 beta thing

02:07:40.800 this originated

02:07:42.200 in like someone

02:07:43.320 who did a

02:07:43.760 study on

02:07:44.220 wolves

02:07:44.780 but it

02:07:45.560 actually was

02:07:46.200 totally

02:07:46.600 debunked

02:07:47.920 there's

02:07:48.960 there's more

02:07:49.480 nuance to

02:07:50.260 this whole

02:07:50.700 the

02:07:51.520 the

02:07:52.320 categorization

02:07:54.180 in wolf

02:07:54.740 packs for

02:07:55.220 example

02:07:55.580 than alpha

02:07:57.140 yeah it's

02:07:57.720 not so

02:07:58.080 easily broken

02:07:58.820 down into

02:07:59.520 just alpha

02:08:00.360 and beta

02:08:01.040 but it is

02:08:02.320 somewhat helpful

02:08:03.340 a little bit

02:08:04.380 but so do you

02:08:05.300 think it's

02:08:05.660 beta or less

02:08:06.900 alpha to

02:08:07.500 not want to

02:08:08.960 take a bullet

02:08:09.480 for your girl

02:08:09.920 quick answers

02:08:13.700 if you can

02:08:14.240 yes no

02:08:16.160 just call me

02:08:17.280 a beta

02:08:17.960 brian

02:08:18.320 just do it

02:08:18.920 I don't care

02:08:19.420 okay yeah

02:08:20.240 I do

02:08:20.620 it is

02:08:21.100 okay

02:08:21.800 beta brian

02:08:23.300 beta brian

02:08:23.980 I kind of see

02:08:24.900 your point

02:08:25.280 just because

02:08:25.920 if you're an

02:08:26.420 alpha

02:08:26.720 then you

02:08:27.260 might have

02:08:27.660 like more

02:08:28.140 to lose

02:08:28.640 per se

02:08:29.000 you've

02:08:29.260 accomplished

02:08:29.580 more in

02:08:29.980 your life

02:08:30.300 like you

02:08:30.580 have this

02:08:30.880 podcast

02:08:31.240 you're

02:08:31.580 successful

02:08:32.020 I'm not

02:08:32.720 calling

02:08:32.980 I'm not

02:08:33.420 calling myself

02:08:34.000 just to be

02:08:34.440 clear

02:08:34.620 not calling

02:08:35.060 myself

02:08:35.380 an alpha

02:08:35.640 I'm just

02:08:35.960 saying like I

02:08:36.480 could see

02:08:37.000 your point

02:08:37.700 of view

02:08:37.980 on that

02:08:38.380 I'm not

02:08:39.080 saying I

02:08:39.360 agree or

02:08:39.720 disagree

02:08:40.060 but one

02:08:40.840 could argue

02:08:41.380 because he's

02:08:42.280 done all

02:08:42.600 that you

02:08:43.340 know he's

02:08:44.340 already accomplished

02:08:44.880 it so

02:08:45.620 that's true

02:08:46.380 beta

02:08:48.540 I honestly

02:08:52.980 wouldn't say

02:08:53.480 either or

02:08:54.100 okay

02:08:54.720 yeah I

02:08:55.520 not my

02:08:57.140 preference

02:08:57.520 but I don't

02:08:57.840 think you're

02:08:58.120 a beta

02:08:58.380 for having

02:08:59.120 that decision

02:08:59.680 so because

02:09:00.580 this occurred

02:09:01.440 to me right

02:09:01.920 like because a

02:09:02.360 lot of people

02:09:02.740 in the chat

02:09:03.240 and maybe it's

02:09:03.760 not your

02:09:03.980 position that

02:09:04.480 this would

02:09:04.740 make somebody

02:09:05.160 less alpha

02:09:05.820 or beta

02:09:06.640 but like let's

02:09:07.780 think of some

02:09:08.240 conquerors

02:09:08.860 throughout history

02:09:09.560 you guys know

02:09:10.080 Genghis Khan

02:09:10.900 no okay

02:09:12.340 Genghis Khan

02:09:13.040 he was like

02:09:13.800 in the

02:09:14.520 12th century

02:09:15.980 or something

02:09:16.460 he had 14

02:09:17.660 wives

02:09:18.120 of high rank

02:09:19.700 I got these

02:09:20.700 notes

02:09:20.920 oh my god

02:09:22.120 god damn it

02:09:22.640 sorry thank you

02:09:25.520 father brings

02:09:26.140 home 250k plus

02:09:28.120 a year and the

02:09:28.820 mother is

02:09:29.300 unemployed without

02:09:30.100 any educational

02:09:31.240 background who

02:09:32.440 should really take

02:09:33.180 the bullet for

02:09:33.840 the future of

02:09:34.560 the children

02:09:35.160 alpha brian

02:09:36.300 right I mean

02:09:38.360 if you've

02:09:38.700 already had

02:09:39.280 kids I mean

02:09:39.780 in no scenario

02:09:40.480 do I do I

02:09:41.240 think the man

02:09:41.760 takes the

02:09:43.080 bullet but if

02:09:46.180 the guy's the

02:09:46.640 breadwinner he's

02:09:48.160 more capable of

02:09:49.020 protecting the

02:09:49.680 children he's more

02:09:50.480 capable of providing

02:09:51.520 for the children

02:09:52.100 assuming he's the

02:09:52.740 breadwinner so

02:09:53.380 well put let's

02:09:54.640 say it's the

02:09:55.000 opposite and the

02:09:55.620 rules were

02:09:55.960 reversed and it

02:09:56.620 was the male

02:09:57.220 who was unemployed

02:09:57.920 and the wife was

02:09:59.000 bringing that money

02:09:59.720 you would have a

02:10:00.600 stronger argument

02:10:01.240 for the at

02:10:02.640 least one argument

02:10:03.720 for still not

02:10:05.000 willing to say

02:10:05.600 that it's a

02:10:06.060 stronger argument

02:10:06.920 because then we're

02:10:08.220 deferring away from

02:10:09.060 outcomes which is

02:10:10.580 what brian's position

02:10:11.440 is initially

02:10:12.120 anyways that the

02:10:13.120 outcome for single

02:10:14.600 parent homes

02:10:15.580 generally speaking

02:10:16.900 for men is better

02:10:18.360 than it is for

02:10:19.480 women so even

02:10:20.800 then even with

02:10:21.560 that pushback he

02:10:22.880 would still have to

02:10:23.300 take that in

02:10:23.660 consideration so I

02:10:24.760 still wouldn't

02:10:25.320 consider that to be

02:10:26.040 a great counter

02:10:26.760 argument anyways

02:10:28.440 hold on I'm

02:10:31.020 gonna bring it

02:10:31.440 back I'm gonna bring

02:10:32.180 it back here so

02:10:32.880 Genghis Khan he had

02:10:34.380 14 wives of

02:10:35.460 higher rank I

02:10:36.080 googled this he

02:10:37.720 had many lesser

02:10:38.740 wives it's

02:10:40.120 estimated he had

02:10:41.080 another 500

02:10:41.940 concubines who

02:10:43.400 also bore him

02:10:44.080 children Genghis

02:10:46.900 Khan you know

02:10:48.000 founder and

02:10:49.020 Khan of the

02:10:49.760 largest contiguous

02:10:50.920 empire in history

02:10:52.440 I suspect if he

02:10:56.100 had this dilemma

02:10:56.860 of he had to

02:10:58.000 sacrifice his life

02:10:58.880 for one of his

02:10:59.540 dozens of wives

02:11:00.960 right do you

02:11:01.800 think would he

02:11:02.620 be a beta male

02:11:04.920 because he didn't

02:11:05.860 want to die for

02:11:07.860 one of his many

02:11:09.160 many wives I

02:11:09.860 think we all know

02:11:10.460 that he didn't care

02:11:11.240 about those

02:11:11.960 exactly but does

02:11:13.620 that so I mean you

02:11:14.700 could argue Genghis

02:11:16.240 Khan well I'm not

02:11:17.500 so sure that

02:11:18.160 Andrew doesn't like

02:11:19.360 this

02:11:19.500 presupposition here

02:11:21.060 from you I'm not

02:11:22.380 sure that I'm willing

02:11:22.980 to concede he didn't

02:11:23.680 care about them

02:11:24.300 yeah yeah he probably

02:11:25.800 did not willing to

02:11:26.600 concede well put

02:11:27.900 Andrew he probably

02:11:28.960 yeah he probably

02:11:29.620 cared about them

02:11:30.340 would he sacrifice

02:11:32.740 his life for one

02:11:34.720 of them probably

02:11:36.800 he'd just be like I

02:11:38.360 got like 50 let me

02:11:39.880 just get another one

02:11:40.860 I don't think that

02:11:41.700 that is right okay

02:11:42.760 on Genghis Khan's

02:11:43.840 part wait hold on

02:11:45.180 we're upset about

02:11:46.220 Genghis Khan because

02:11:47.360 of I think there's

02:11:49.180 other things there

02:11:50.100 might have been

02:11:50.440 other things

02:11:50.880 could have been

02:11:52.180 other things you

02:11:52.960 know the conquering

02:11:55.580 sorry what I was

02:11:57.240 basically just saying

02:11:57.980 like is this a

02:11:58.560 moral man like you

02:12:00.080 know he can

02:12:00.640 Genghis Khan yeah

02:12:01.620 I mean it depends

02:12:03.040 is Mike was he

02:12:03.900 moral

02:12:04.160 probably not

02:12:06.760 I don't know

02:12:08.340 Genghis Khan

02:12:09.080 sex workers gonna

02:12:13.140 talk about who's

02:12:13.920 moral

02:12:14.280 she is not

02:12:17.220 a process

02:12:17.660 raise your hand

02:12:19.740 if you're a

02:12:20.120 sex worker

02:12:20.700 I feel like you

02:12:22.580 just kind of zone

02:12:23.160 out and then come

02:12:23.700 out

02:12:23.980 go smoke another

02:12:26.000 cigarette

02:12:26.500 can't call anybody

02:12:27.640 else

02:12:28.000 cigarettes are

02:12:29.280 getting to your

02:12:29.680 head

02:12:29.980 but I gotta ask

02:12:31.440 like when you

02:12:32.620 ask this question

02:12:33.320 of morality

02:12:34.000 I am not a

02:12:35.200 sex worker

02:12:35.580 there is a

02:12:35.960 Christian I see

02:12:36.580 there is a

02:12:37.560 Christian I see

02:12:38.060 on the panel

02:12:38.580 she's not a

02:12:39.920 relativist

02:12:40.480 she probably has

02:12:41.300 some standard

02:12:41.760 justification for

02:12:42.700 morals but like you

02:12:44.160 guys are probably

02:12:44.780 relativists right

02:12:45.800 so why would you

02:12:46.420 say is he a moral

02:12:47.080 man or not

02:12:47.740 what's that

02:12:49.320 I'm also a

02:12:50.260 Christian so my

02:12:51.200 morals are based

02:12:52.720 on biblical

02:12:53.160 values

02:12:53.640 fascism

02:12:54.420 okay that's

02:12:55.560 where that's

02:12:56.080 where you

02:12:56.560 justify your

02:12:57.100 morality then

02:12:57.700 on God

02:12:58.140 yeah

02:12:59.040 okay got

02:13:00.600 you so

02:13:01.080 moving over

02:13:03.300 though to

02:13:04.200 the next

02:13:04.960 gal when you

02:13:05.800 said is this

02:13:06.540 moral or this

02:13:07.060 not

02:13:07.340 grid one

02:13:09.360 motorsports

02:13:10.120 donated $200

02:13:11.440 the bloodline

02:13:13.180 must be

02:13:13.620 preserved

02:13:14.180 girls like

02:13:15.160 the who

02:13:15.480 are in the

02:13:15.840 second seat

02:13:16.420 are not

02:13:16.860 worthy of

02:13:17.400 ending the

02:13:17.840 bloodline of

02:13:18.460 a man

02:13:18.820 willing to

02:13:19.320 take a

02:13:19.720 bullet for

02:13:20.240 others

02:13:20.640 do the

02:13:21.540 right thing

02:13:22.060 and step

02:13:22.540 in front

02:13:23.020 of it

02:13:23.820 wait

02:13:25.280 the girl

02:13:25.880 man's

02:13:26.500 bloodline

02:13:27.140 be preserved

02:13:28.360 but not

02:13:28.700 the one

02:13:29.000 like aren't

02:13:29.640 I

02:13:29.840 Richard Dawkins

02:13:31.020 wrote a book

02:13:31.560 called the

02:13:32.000 selfish gene

02:13:33.160 oh my god

02:13:34.240 and I think

02:13:34.620 there is

02:13:34.980 something

02:13:35.320 look it

02:13:35.820 would be

02:13:36.140 selfish

02:13:36.580 but if

02:13:37.620 you could

02:13:38.580 argue

02:13:38.940 the most

02:13:39.500 alpha thing

02:13:40.160 Genghis

02:13:40.640 con shit

02:13:41.260 she takes

02:13:43.420 the bullet

02:13:43.820 I can just

02:13:44.960 find another

02:13:45.420 wife have

02:13:46.220 seven children

02:13:46.920 with her

02:13:47.360 if she dies

02:13:48.400 seven children

02:13:49.320 with the next

02:13:49.800 woman

02:13:50.020 seven children

02:13:51.040 with the next

02:13:51.600 woman

02:13:51.880 what do you

02:13:53.080 think a woman

02:13:53.600 is going to

02:13:54.000 want though

02:13:54.420 and continuously

02:13:55.300 moving on to

02:13:56.220 the next woman

02:13:56.880 like that's

02:13:57.360 kind of a

02:13:57.820 ho ass

02:13:58.300 mentality

02:13:58.920 to be honest

02:13:59.640 with you

02:13:59.920 I'm a live

02:14:01.960 I'm a survive

02:14:03.220 going back to

02:14:04.980 the comment

02:14:05.440 that was

02:14:05.780 previous

02:14:06.540 or whatever

02:14:07.080 where

02:14:07.440 like if

02:14:08.780 I were to

02:14:09.400 move on

02:14:09.820 right away

02:14:10.340 you've invoked

02:14:13.200 hold on

02:14:16.140 before I

02:14:16.680 have you

02:14:16.940 make your

02:14:17.260 is that

02:14:17.440 the one

02:14:17.600 I called

02:14:17.800 an incel

02:14:18.260 you did

02:14:19.780 call him

02:14:20.100 an incel

02:14:20.580 let me read

02:14:21.600 some of

02:14:22.380 these

02:14:22.500 you did

02:14:23.380 call this

02:14:23.860 happily married

02:14:24.580 man with

02:14:25.060 many children

02:14:25.660 an incel

02:14:26.220 well he clearly

02:14:26.900 hates women

02:14:27.600 so

02:14:28.100 well I think

02:14:30.640 you hate men

02:14:31.180 and you're a

02:14:31.540 misandrist

02:14:32.100 we'll just

02:14:32.540 make generalities

02:14:33.320 back and forth

02:14:33.920 why would you

02:14:34.440 think I hate

02:14:35.500 men

02:14:35.740 why would you

02:14:36.440 think that he

02:14:36.860 hates women

02:14:37.340 he just made

02:14:37.980 it up

02:14:38.320 right

02:14:38.560 well he's

02:14:39.440 calling me

02:14:40.400 a whore

02:14:41.280 for lord

02:14:42.720 knows what

02:14:43.100 I mean

02:14:43.480 who started

02:14:44.220 it

02:14:44.480 there's not

02:14:45.740 no reason

02:14:46.280 you started

02:14:47.060 by attacking

02:14:47.740 him personally

02:14:48.460 so he

02:14:48.860 attacked you

02:14:49.260 back personally

02:14:49.720 you can't

02:14:50.040 cry foul

02:14:50.680 he did

02:14:53.300 attack us

02:14:53.920 who knows

02:14:54.300 who started

02:14:54.760 that

02:14:55.180 he's the

02:14:56.080 one that

02:14:56.340 left the

02:14:56.680 comment

02:14:56.780 what did

02:14:56.960 he say

02:14:57.240 that actually

02:14:57.640 was a

02:14:57.940 personal

02:14:58.220 attack

02:14:58.560 to you

02:14:58.820 in his

02:14:59.060 first

02:14:59.280 super

02:14:59.500 chat

02:14:59.780 he

02:15:00.500 made a

02:15:01.300 comment

02:15:01.560 and I

02:15:02.720 responded

02:15:03.040 to the

02:15:03.340 comment

02:15:03.680 you don't

02:15:04.460 even remember

02:15:04.880 what he

02:15:05.160 said do

02:15:05.520 you

02:15:05.740 there's

02:15:06.420 been

02:15:06.560 multiple

02:15:07.100 I think

02:15:07.820 is it

02:15:08.380 this one

02:15:08.760 so what

02:15:09.640 happened

02:15:10.020 is

02:15:10.340 grid one

02:15:11.500 motorsports

02:15:12.240 donated

02:15:12.800 200

02:15:13.360 of course

02:15:15.120 these girls

02:15:15.720 expect a man

02:15:16.540 to take a bullet

02:15:17.300 for them

02:15:17.740 so they can

02:15:18.480 step over

02:15:19.120 his corpse

02:15:19.820 and move

02:15:20.380 on to the

02:15:20.840 next swinging

02:15:21.560 deck

02:15:22.160 do not expect

02:15:23.280 a man to be

02:15:24.000 a bullet magnet

02:15:24.780 when you are a

02:15:25.500 degen

02:15:25.880 a little abrasive

02:15:27.180 so he did not

02:15:28.320 personally attack

02:15:29.260 you

02:15:29.440 hang on

02:15:29.820 so he did not

02:15:30.420 personally attack

02:15:31.020 you at all

02:15:31.420 that's a replay

02:15:32.180 of his

02:15:33.280 of his comment

02:15:34.180 he did not

02:15:34.820 you personally

02:15:35.320 attacked him

02:15:36.060 and so he

02:15:36.800 responded in

02:15:37.420 kind

02:15:37.660 now you're

02:15:38.040 crying

02:15:38.300 foul

02:15:38.720 you did

02:15:39.680 make a bit

02:15:40.180 of an

02:15:40.400 escalation

02:15:40.980 it was

02:15:41.500 his comments

02:15:42.060 a bit abrasive

02:15:42.740 but you did

02:15:43.300 escalate it

02:15:44.000 by calling him

02:15:45.020 an incel

02:15:45.480 okay

02:15:46.540 it's okay

02:15:47.340 though

02:15:47.520 we're all

02:15:48.020 friends here

02:15:48.600 it's all

02:15:50.580 good

02:15:50.920 I mean

02:15:51.780 I don't take

02:15:52.320 any of this

02:15:52.700 personally

02:15:53.120 it doesn't

02:15:53.540 bother me

02:15:54.080 I'm just

02:15:55.840 pointing this

02:15:56.340 out

02:15:56.600 let's

02:15:57.460 let's move

02:15:57.980 away from

02:15:58.360 the meta

02:15:58.620 conversation

02:15:59.200 let me get

02:15:59.640 through a couple

02:16:00.020 chats here

02:16:00.620 what is wrong

02:16:03.080 with you girls

02:16:03.880 actually

02:16:04.580 Natalia

02:16:04.980 what is wrong

02:16:06.680 with you girls

02:16:07.320 I have two

02:16:08.780 and I think

02:16:09.520 your fathers

02:16:10.200 are disengaged

02:16:11.880 Andrew help me

02:16:12.920 poly

02:16:13.320 question mark

02:16:13.980 WTF

02:16:14.980 you idiot

02:16:15.440 girls

02:16:15.660 it's good

02:16:17.340 it's good

02:16:18.480 now we have

02:16:19.300 another one

02:16:19.680 that's about

02:16:20.040 to come up

02:16:20.520 if I could

02:16:20.820 have you

02:16:21.040 read this

02:16:21.400 one

02:16:21.520 thank you

02:16:21.800 Pico Steins

02:16:22.400 great to

02:16:23.600 see you

02:16:23.940 back

02:16:24.160 Andrew

02:16:24.560 congrats

02:16:25.520 on the

02:16:25.800 plaque

02:16:26.200 Brian

02:16:26.880 why do

02:16:27.620 why do

02:16:28.440 women say

02:16:28.980 they aren't

02:16:29.480 sex objects

02:16:30.200 but their

02:16:30.720 number one

02:16:31.200 profitable

02:16:31.860 occupation

02:16:32.420 is being

02:16:32.820 a sex

02:16:33.180 object

02:16:33.580 bad

02:16:34.100 bad

02:16:35.700 porn

02:16:36.240 and save

02:16:36.760 society

02:16:37.540 and porn

02:16:40.520 okay

02:16:41.180 thank you

02:16:42.440 Dylan Lawley

02:16:43.320 for that

02:16:43.640 appreciate it

02:16:44.140 man

02:16:44.300 we have

02:16:45.780 another one

02:16:46.320 coming through

02:16:46.680 if you can

02:16:46.980 read this

02:16:47.360 one

02:16:47.640 I would

02:16:49.580 jump in

02:16:49.960 front of

02:16:50.180 a bullet

02:16:50.460 to save

02:16:50.960 a child

02:16:51.540 I don't

02:16:51.880 even know

02:16:52.400 I certainly

02:16:53.320 would do

02:16:53.720 the same

02:16:54.220 for my

02:16:54.700 gal

02:16:55.020 I exchange

02:16:56.240 for my

02:16:56.960 assigned

02:16:59.500 risk

02:16:59.920 she has

02:17:00.640 to defer

02:17:01.200 to me

02:17:01.720 in reducing

02:17:02.460 risk

02:17:02.880 so I

02:17:03.740 don't have

02:17:04.180 to

02:17:04.400 very well

02:17:05.120 said

02:17:05.340 I agree

02:17:05.980 with that

02:17:06.280 thank you

02:17:07.320 for the

02:17:07.700 message

02:17:07.960 can you

02:17:08.820 talk about

02:17:09.620 that

02:17:09.900 can you

02:17:10.260 like what's

02:17:10.880 your opinion

02:17:11.420 on if

02:17:12.460 you should

02:17:12.760 jump in

02:17:13.240 front of

02:17:13.540 a bullet

02:17:13.940 for your

02:17:14.660 wife

02:17:15.000 or not

02:17:15.440 well so

02:17:16.640 I have a

02:17:17.280 different

02:17:17.640 world view

02:17:18.100 than Brian

02:17:18.640 does

02:17:19.080 I'm an

02:17:19.580 Eastern

02:17:19.840 Orthodox

02:17:20.160 Christian

02:17:20.820 I follow

02:17:21.220 Christian

02:17:21.620 ethics

02:17:22.120 so under

02:17:22.860 an ethical

02:17:23.200 system

02:17:23.600 I was

02:17:24.160 enjoying

02:17:24.560 the

02:17:24.980 initial

02:17:25.500 answer

02:17:25.940 by the

02:17:26.640 gal

02:17:27.120 with the

02:17:27.520 ginormous

02:17:28.340 blue cross

02:17:28.880 on her

02:17:29.140 chest

02:17:29.400 where she

02:17:30.360 said

02:17:30.820 that

02:17:31.640 there is

02:17:32.500 a

02:17:32.640 representation

02:17:33.180 of how

02:17:34.120 men and

02:17:34.700 women

02:17:34.920 are supposed

02:17:35.480 to act

02:17:35.940 as

02:17:36.560 representations

02:17:37.020 of the

02:17:37.520 church

02:17:37.720 not only

02:17:38.060 in marriage

02:17:38.440 but also

02:17:38.900 in greater

02:17:39.260 society

02:17:39.840 but I

02:17:40.560 also enjoyed

02:17:40.980 your answer

02:17:41.500 when you

02:17:41.940 were talking

02:17:42.320 about the

02:17:42.820 ontological

02:17:43.440 differences

02:17:44.000 and that

02:17:44.540 there's

02:17:44.820 greater

02:17:45.180 duties

02:17:45.620 between

02:17:45.980 men and

02:17:46.540 women

02:17:46.780 the reason

02:17:47.680 I'm testing

02:17:48.120 your guys'

02:17:48.600 logic

02:17:48.940 is because

02:17:49.500 I seem

02:17:50.020 to note

02:17:50.440 that you

02:17:50.740 understand

02:17:51.140 that the

02:17:51.480 men have

02:17:51.980 higher duties

02:17:52.560 but I'm

02:17:52.860 not so sure

02:17:53.520 that you

02:17:53.780 understand what

02:17:54.260 yours are

02:17:54.980 so my

02:17:56.120 take on

02:17:56.520 this is

02:17:56.960 of course

02:17:57.420 for my

02:17:57.880 wife

02:17:58.200 I would

02:17:58.520 absolutely

02:17:59.180 lay down

02:18:00.380 my life

02:18:00.780 and I

02:18:00.960 already have

02:18:01.620 essentially

02:18:02.320 right

02:18:02.720 I've spent

02:18:03.140 most of my

02:18:03.700 adult life

02:18:04.120 taking care of

02:18:04.760 her and

02:18:05.560 I've spent

02:18:06.040 my entire

02:18:06.880 adult life

02:18:07.280 taking care of

02:18:07.740 my children

02:18:08.180 as well

02:18:08.820 so I

02:18:10.160 would say

02:18:10.440 that that's

02:18:10.840 already

02:18:11.340 laying down

02:18:12.700 the time

02:18:13.520 of my

02:18:13.800 life

02:18:14.160 to take

02:18:15.100 care of

02:18:15.400 that

02:18:15.600 but yeah

02:18:15.960 I would

02:18:16.220 also

02:18:16.460 physically

02:18:16.960 do this

02:18:17.580 but I

02:18:18.000 follow a

02:18:18.440 different

02:18:18.740 ethical

02:18:19.160 system

02:18:19.760 and

02:18:20.760 well

02:18:21.360 if I

02:18:22.120 may

02:18:22.380 I

02:18:22.980 know

02:18:23.760 the

02:18:24.160 verse

02:18:25.080 that I

02:18:25.420 quoted

02:18:25.660 earlier

02:18:26.040 about

02:18:26.380 the

02:18:26.720 husband's

02:18:27.260 role

02:18:27.460 in the

02:18:27.700 marriage

02:18:28.080 the

02:18:28.720 women's

02:18:29.240 role

02:18:29.500 I think

02:18:29.900 it's

02:18:30.060 important

02:18:30.340 to talk

02:18:30.720 about

02:18:30.960 as well

02:18:31.380 because

02:18:31.680 it says

02:18:32.220 the husbands

02:18:32.720 must love

02:18:33.200 their wives

02:18:33.760 but women

02:18:34.640 respect your

02:18:35.400 husbands

02:18:35.820 and so

02:18:37.100 that's

02:18:37.640 like

02:18:38.060 that's

02:18:38.920 not

02:18:39.100 what it

02:18:39.760 says

02:18:39.980 it says

02:18:40.320 that you

02:18:40.740 need to

02:18:41.020 submit

02:18:41.420 to your

02:18:42.000 husband

02:18:42.320 yeah

02:18:42.580 it says

02:18:43.240 respect

02:18:43.640 and

02:18:43.840 that's

02:18:44.040 not

02:18:44.200 respect

02:18:44.740 if that

02:18:45.240 submission

02:18:45.620 is different

02:18:46.260 that's

02:18:46.680 that's

02:18:47.140 an overage

02:18:47.760 right

02:18:47.980 there's

02:18:48.240 more to

02:18:49.000 it than

02:18:49.320 just

02:18:49.540 respecting

02:18:50.160 submission

02:18:51.280 does not

02:18:51.860 just mean

02:18:52.280 respect

02:18:52.820 that means

02:18:53.980 submission

02:18:54.840 and that's

02:18:55.620 something which

02:18:56.140 is absent

02:18:56.720 in society

02:18:57.340 and that's

02:18:57.620 why guys

02:18:57.980 like Brian

02:18:58.620 refuse

02:18:59.520 to take

02:19:00.360 a bullet

02:19:00.660 for women

02:19:01.120 because they

02:19:01.580 refuse

02:19:02.080 to submit

02:19:03.080 to patriarchal

02:19:04.060 authority

02:19:04.500 and if

02:19:05.160 they did

02:19:05.660 he would

02:19:06.260 be far

02:19:06.600 more inclined

02:19:07.040 to do

02:19:07.360 so

02:19:07.660 that's

02:19:08.140 why by the

02:19:08.600 way he

02:19:08.860 would do

02:19:09.120 it for his

02:19:09.520 children

02:19:09.860 he would do

02:19:10.600 it for his

02:19:10.940 children

02:19:11.220 because they

02:19:12.140 see him

02:19:12.500 as an

02:19:12.980 authority

02:19:13.380 a patriarchal

02:19:14.080 authority

02:19:14.400 in the

02:19:14.620 household

02:19:14.940 and so

02:19:15.500 he knows

02:19:16.640 that that's

02:19:17.100 his greater

02:19:17.480 duty

02:19:17.800 but why

02:19:18.500 would he

02:19:18.740 have a

02:19:19.040 greater

02:19:19.240 duty

02:19:19.540 to women

02:19:20.040 who don't

02:19:20.760 submit

02:19:21.120 that was

02:19:22.760 well

02:19:22.960 I agree

02:19:23.340 that was

02:19:23.700 well put

02:19:24.180 I completely

02:19:24.700 agree

02:19:25.080 and you're

02:19:25.680 right it

02:19:26.040 does say

02:19:26.400 that

02:19:26.560 and I

02:19:27.540 think that's

02:19:28.020 a huge

02:19:28.380 reason why

02:19:28.920 a lot of

02:19:29.340 women

02:19:29.540 nowadays

02:19:29.980 you know

02:19:30.960 like there

02:19:31.640 are issues

02:19:32.340 with women

02:19:33.320 not submitting

02:19:34.680 to their

02:19:35.860 significant other

02:19:36.780 or their

02:19:37.060 husband

02:19:37.360 or submitting

02:19:38.940 to the wrong

02:19:39.480 people

02:19:39.900 and I think

02:19:40.680 that's how

02:19:41.060 a lot of

02:19:41.560 women get

02:19:42.000 to where

02:19:42.280 they are

02:19:42.600 today

02:19:42.880 is because

02:19:43.320 they've

02:19:43.680 submitted

02:19:44.120 to the

02:19:44.940 wrong

02:19:45.200 person

02:19:46.160 and they've

02:19:46.780 been hurt

02:19:47.320 and so

02:19:47.960 there's been

02:19:48.320 a response

02:19:49.200 to okay

02:19:50.000 well that

02:19:50.580 must be

02:19:51.180 where I

02:19:51.720 went wrong

02:19:52.260 well I'm

02:19:53.560 not confident

02:19:54.120 that I

02:19:54.920 believe your

02:19:55.780 framework

02:19:56.200 that the

02:19:56.780 reason that

02:19:57.240 there's so

02:19:57.520 many of

02:19:57.780 these women

02:19:58.120 who are

02:19:58.380 damaged

02:19:58.780 is because

02:19:59.280 they refuse

02:19:59.860 to submit

02:20:00.400 I would

02:20:01.100 actually

02:20:01.400 counter

02:20:01.840 that the

02:20:02.320 reason so

02:20:02.760 many of

02:20:03.040 them are

02:20:03.260 damaged

02:20:03.540 is because

02:20:04.140 they wouldn't

02:20:05.600 do it

02:20:06.020 right

02:20:06.340 they wouldn't

02:20:07.180 actually

02:20:07.560 submit

02:20:08.020 that's what

02:20:08.920 I think

02:20:09.220 is going

02:20:09.620 on

02:20:10.000 I don't

02:20:10.440 think that

02:20:10.700 they embraced

02:20:11.220 submission

02:20:11.620 and had

02:20:12.000 a bad

02:20:12.320 time

02:20:12.640 I think

02:20:13.000 that the

02:20:13.240 opposite

02:20:13.520 is true

02:20:13.900 they refused

02:20:14.400 to embrace

02:20:14.840 submission

02:20:15.260 and that's

02:20:15.760 what gave

02:20:16.060 them the

02:20:16.340 bad time

02:20:16.940 for instance

02:20:17.720 when we go

02:20:18.120 around this

02:20:18.520 table the

02:20:19.080 reason we

02:20:19.460 got all the

02:20:19.900 lifetime stories

02:20:20.680 from everybody

02:20:21.300 and made

02:20:21.860 sure that we

02:20:22.340 could get

02:20:22.700 down why

02:20:23.720 it is that

02:20:24.240 you guys

02:20:24.760 you know

02:20:25.820 what your

02:20:26.100 occupations are

02:20:26.840 and the

02:20:27.080 different things

02:20:27.560 that you

02:20:27.800 believe

02:20:28.240 do you

02:20:28.880 think for

02:20:29.260 instance that

02:20:29.820 the gal in

02:20:30.220 the blue

02:20:30.520 the only fans

02:20:31.400 worker do you

02:20:31.980 think that

02:20:32.260 she's going to

02:20:32.640 be submitting

02:20:33.120 to a man

02:20:33.700 anytime soon

02:20:34.360 because I

02:20:34.820 don't think

02:20:35.160 she is in

02:20:35.780 fact she

02:20:36.440 pretty confidently

02:20:37.400 said no

02:20:38.680 she doesn't

02:20:39.220 even she's not

02:20:39.620 even interested

02:20:40.020 in marriage

02:20:40.480 not interested

02:20:40.940 in children

02:20:41.300 not interested

02:20:41.960 in any of

02:20:42.600 that there's

02:20:43.300 no interest

02:20:43.820 in submission

02:20:44.460 so I don't

02:20:45.300 think it's a

02:20:45.840 submission issue

02:20:46.780 I think it's a

02:20:47.620 will issue

02:20:48.500 it's they're

02:20:48.980 willful

02:20:49.560 I'm interested

02:20:50.340 in submission

02:20:50.940 and they're

02:20:51.660 disobedient

02:20:52.240 in society

02:20:52.780 hang on I'm

02:20:55.080 almost done

02:20:55.500 they reject

02:20:55.940 patriarchy and

02:20:56.820 I think that

02:20:57.360 that is the

02:20:58.600 kind of

02:20:59.140 fundamental cause

02:21:00.000 of these flaws

02:21:00.640 you're interested

02:21:01.820 in being submissive

02:21:02.860 yeah I would

02:21:03.620 quit only fans

02:21:04.400 oh that was

02:21:05.520 gonna be my

02:21:05.840 question so

02:21:06.420 for example

02:21:07.020 hypothetical

02:21:07.680 if me and

02:21:08.700 you were

02:21:08.940 dating and

02:21:09.400 I said

02:21:09.820 don't like

02:21:10.700 that you're

02:21:10.940 doing only fans

02:21:11.640 I want you

02:21:12.180 to delete

02:21:12.580 it right

02:21:13.300 now

02:21:13.640 would you

02:21:14.340 do it

02:21:14.660 I mean

02:21:17.260 I would

02:21:17.820 need to

02:21:18.160 survive

02:21:18.600 so I

02:21:19.300 couldn't

02:21:19.720 you know

02:21:19.960 I'd have

02:21:20.160 to figure

02:21:20.500 it out

02:21:20.920 but in

02:21:21.480 theory yes

02:21:22.020 I would

02:21:22.320 do that

02:21:22.640 I would

02:21:22.840 have no

02:21:23.120 problem

02:21:23.360 doing that

02:21:23.860 all right

02:21:24.540 let me

02:21:24.840 read one

02:21:25.340 chat

02:21:25.700 and then

02:21:26.260 we're gonna

02:21:26.500 get into

02:21:26.980 finally we'll

02:21:27.960 get into

02:21:28.360 the man

02:21:29.000 versus bear

02:21:29.480 the main

02:21:29.820 topic of

02:21:30.280 tonight

02:21:30.580 Natalia can

02:21:32.520 you read

02:21:32.760 this for

02:21:33.360 us please

02:21:33.600 why do

02:21:33.760 women think

02:21:34.300 who hurt

02:21:34.920 you is an

02:21:35.920 intelligent

02:21:36.380 comeback

02:21:36.780 of course

02:21:37.960 it was a

02:21:38.420 woman

02:21:38.700 many women

02:21:40.120 these days

02:21:40.700 are selfish

02:21:41.260 narcissistic

02:21:41.980 scrumpets

02:21:42.640 that don't

02:21:43.200 care about

02:21:43.740 their actions

02:21:44.560 should

02:21:45.320 embarrass you

02:21:47.220 thank you

02:21:47.560 Nickelodeon

02:21:48.220 I think this

02:21:48.800 was maybe

02:21:49.120 directed at

02:21:49.680 you because

02:21:50.080 you said

02:21:50.420 who hurt

02:21:50.860 you

02:21:51.100 it should

02:21:51.620 embarrass

02:21:55.700 to just

02:21:56.720 interject

02:21:57.140 I looked

02:21:58.320 this up

02:21:58.700 just to

02:21:58.960 make sure

02:21:59.280 that you

02:21:59.580 were clear

02:22:00.560 on this

02:22:01.080 it's

02:22:01.860 Ephesians

02:22:02.400 22

02:22:03.040 wives submit

02:22:03.800 yourselves

02:22:04.500 unto your

02:22:04.900 own husbands

02:22:05.540 as unto

02:22:06.740 the Lord

02:22:07.800 for the

02:22:09.480 husband is

02:22:09.940 the head

02:22:10.220 of the wife

02:22:10.740 even as

02:22:11.120 Christ is

02:22:11.560 the head

02:22:11.800 of the

02:22:12.040 church

02:22:12.300 and he

02:22:12.580 is the

02:22:12.860 savior

02:22:13.120 of the

02:22:13.420 body

02:22:13.700 meaning

02:22:14.060 that

02:22:14.400 submission

02:22:15.540 in all

02:22:17.080 ways to

02:22:17.600 the husband

02:22:17.960 you're

02:22:18.220 supposed to

02:22:18.620 liken it

02:22:19.020 as you

02:22:19.460 do unto

02:22:19.820 the Lord

02:22:20.340 which means

02:22:20.900 the same

02:22:21.300 way that

02:22:21.960 you submit

02:22:22.360 to God

02:22:22.800 I just

02:22:28.180 want to

02:22:28.480 ask this

02:22:28.900 question

02:22:29.300 real quick

02:22:29.720 what would

02:22:30.920 be the

02:22:31.260 restrictions

02:22:31.700 that you

02:22:32.080 would put

02:22:32.460 on the

02:22:32.760 submission

02:22:33.080 to God

02:22:33.580 nothing

02:22:36.000 nothing

02:22:36.540 and it

02:22:37.220 even says

02:22:38.600 later in

02:22:39.160 that verse

02:22:39.720 that even

02:22:40.300 if your

02:22:40.620 husband is

02:22:41.120 not a

02:22:41.460 godly

02:22:41.740 man

02:22:42.040 your

02:22:42.560 submission

02:22:43.080 will

02:22:43.380 prompt

02:22:43.760 him

02:22:44.060 to

02:22:44.660 become

02:22:44.960 a

02:22:45.120 godly

02:22:45.400 man

02:22:45.660 because

02:22:46.020 he'll

02:22:46.420 take

02:22:48.160 heart

02:22:48.540 and

02:22:48.900 want to

02:22:49.980 be a

02:22:50.240 good

02:22:50.360 leader

02:22:50.640 to your

02:22:51.160 relationship

02:22:51.620 want to

02:22:52.020 be a

02:22:52.220 good

02:22:52.360 leader

02:22:52.540 to your

02:22:52.940 family

02:22:53.380 and so

02:22:53.860 I think

02:22:54.600 the point

02:22:55.340 you're

02:22:55.480 getting at

02:22:55.940 is why

02:22:56.380 does it

02:22:56.760 not start

02:22:57.260 with the

02:22:57.560 woman

02:22:57.760 why should

02:22:58.500 the woman

02:22:58.920 not be

02:22:59.260 the first

02:22:59.660 one to

02:22:59.980 submit

02:23:00.240 and then

02:23:01.200 the husband

02:23:01.760 follows

02:23:02.260 I think

02:23:02.840 that I

02:23:03.340 completely

02:23:03.740 agree with

02:23:04.260 you

02:23:04.420 if that

02:23:04.820 is your

02:23:05.160 point

02:23:05.460 well

02:23:06.300 no

02:23:06.640 I guess

02:23:07.080 my

02:23:07.400 overarching

02:23:07.800 point

02:23:08.400 would be

02:23:09.080 the first

02:23:09.440 thing

02:23:09.640 that you

02:23:09.920 said

02:23:10.240 which is

02:23:10.780 if you

02:23:11.280 want to

02:23:11.520 see the

02:23:11.920 kind of

02:23:12.400 flaw

02:23:12.860 in the

02:23:13.680 logic

02:23:14.200 the

02:23:15.420 submission

02:23:15.940 if you

02:23:16.460 want the

02:23:17.140 man to

02:23:17.580 do the

02:23:17.820 best they

02:23:18.160 possibly

02:23:18.480 can

02:23:18.760 for you

02:23:18.980 take a

02:23:19.240 book

02:23:19.440 things like

02:23:20.180 this

02:23:20.560 you would

02:23:21.240 have to

02:23:21.680 submit

02:23:22.020 Andrew out

02:23:24.640 here

02:23:24.940 spit in

02:23:25.460 hot fire

02:23:26.120 lord of

02:23:27.100 the crucible

02:23:27.740 what books

02:23:28.580 should I

02:23:28.980 read that

02:23:29.420 would bolster

02:23:30.060 my skills

02:23:30.720 in debate

02:23:31.320 and further

02:23:32.100 my understanding

02:23:33.060 of logic

02:23:33.680 and reason

02:23:34.400 pen ready

02:23:35.600 do you

02:23:36.440 want

02:23:36.600 Andrew

02:23:36.920 do you

02:23:37.100 want to

02:23:37.280 finish

02:23:37.520 your

02:23:37.700 point

02:23:37.960 and then

02:23:38.280 answer

02:23:38.540 this

02:23:38.800 so

02:23:39.180 so

02:23:39.900 so

02:23:41.040 yeah

02:23:41.480 back to

02:23:41.860 the

02:23:41.960 I guess

02:23:42.300 my overarching

02:23:43.200 point

02:23:43.640 instead

02:23:44.020 is that

02:23:44.680 if you

02:23:45.260 really

02:23:45.460 wanted to

02:23:45.840 see a

02:23:46.120 reflection

02:23:46.660 of the

02:23:48.200 church

02:23:49.080 as the

02:23:49.620 man is

02:23:50.400 the head

02:23:50.860 and the

02:23:51.080 representation

02:23:51.460 of Christ

02:23:52.300 and the

02:23:53.120 woman the

02:23:53.480 body is

02:23:54.000 the representation

02:23:54.520 of the

02:23:55.020 church

02:23:55.400 then submitting

02:23:56.460 to him

02:23:57.040 like you

02:23:57.500 would unto

02:23:58.000 the lord

02:23:58.520 if you

02:23:59.260 make the

02:24:00.000 bold claim

02:24:00.780 there's no

02:24:01.760 restriction to

02:24:02.440 the submission

02:24:02.900 you would give

02:24:03.620 to the lord

02:24:04.400 god

02:24:04.840 isn't it

02:24:05.760 telling you

02:24:06.120 to do

02:24:06.340 the exact

02:24:06.760 same thing

02:24:07.280 here

02:24:07.740 and wouldn't

02:24:08.440 you say

02:24:08.920 that that's

02:24:09.380 why you

02:24:09.660 have such

02:24:10.160 societal

02:24:10.580 decadence

02:24:11.080 how can

02:24:11.560 you look

02:24:11.780 at a man

02:24:12.040 like brian

02:24:12.460 for instance

02:24:13.020 and be

02:24:13.680 angry with

02:24:14.380 him if

02:24:14.660 he says

02:24:15.060 there's no

02:24:15.900 possible way

02:24:16.740 i would

02:24:16.980 ever lay

02:24:17.720 my life

02:24:18.160 down for

02:24:18.580 a woman

02:24:18.980 unless i

02:24:19.820 had what

02:24:20.640 ephesians

02:24:21.200 22 is

02:24:21.860 talking about

02:24:22.480 how could

02:24:22.760 you even

02:24:23.020 blame him

02:24:23.540 you know

02:24:23.960 what i

02:24:24.160 mean

02:24:24.360 how could

02:24:25.080 you even

02:24:25.320 i don't

02:24:26.140 i don't

02:24:26.840 yeah

02:24:27.160 but i

02:24:27.920 also but

02:24:28.700 i but i

02:24:29.600 also say

02:24:30.200 what what

02:24:30.980 if brian

02:24:32.480 found a

02:24:33.680 woman

02:24:33.880 i still

02:24:34.340 kind of

02:24:34.660 blame him

02:24:35.240 i do

02:24:36.720 because i

02:24:37.340 think he

02:24:37.780 should still

02:24:38.440 choose to

02:24:38.920 take responsibility

02:24:39.800 wait when you

02:24:41.040 say responsibility

02:24:41.680 what do you

02:24:42.140 mean like it

02:24:42.920 doesn't matter

02:24:43.640 how the girl

02:24:44.420 is acting

02:24:44.980 you should

02:24:45.600 still be

02:24:46.060 taking

02:24:46.300 responsibility

02:24:46.780 holy fuck

02:24:47.780 just to be

02:24:48.380 clear

02:24:48.660 it doesn't

02:24:49.340 matter how

02:24:50.040 my husband

02:24:51.120 is acting

02:24:51.620 if i had

02:24:52.020 one

02:24:52.220 doesn't matter

02:24:53.180 how my

02:24:53.560 husband is

02:24:54.060 acting

02:24:54.320 i should

02:24:54.880 still be

02:24:55.580 submitting

02:24:56.020 what

02:24:57.160 yeah but

02:24:58.180 the point

02:24:58.620 but actually

02:24:59.280 this is

02:24:59.620 counterintuitive

02:25:00.140 to your

02:25:00.440 own logic

02:25:00.980 right so

02:25:01.940 what if

02:25:02.200 you're not

02:25:02.700 what if

02:25:05.800 you're not

02:25:06.200 submitting

02:25:06.640 what if

02:25:07.520 who's not

02:25:08.060 you

02:25:08.520 well i

02:25:09.680 should be

02:25:10.200 yeah but

02:25:11.160 if you're

02:25:11.440 not though

02:25:12.040 then he

02:25:13.160 should still

02:25:13.820 take responsibility

02:25:14.880 right okay so

02:25:16.300 do you see the

02:25:16.920 hole the gaping

02:25:17.680 hole in your

02:25:18.060 logic here

02:25:18.760 well i just

02:25:19.180 see that

02:25:19.660 your logic is

02:25:20.360 that you do

02:25:20.860 not have to

02:25:21.360 act as good

02:25:22.120 why hang on

02:25:22.700 hang on let

02:25:23.480 me finish the

02:25:23.980 point and then

02:25:24.500 you can respond i

02:25:25.440 promise the

02:25:26.320 hole in the

02:25:26.680 logic though is

02:25:27.380 to say that

02:25:28.580 wait he should

02:25:29.940 still be acting

02:25:30.760 as though you

02:25:32.420 are a submissive

02:25:33.320 wife when you're

02:25:34.000 not being a

02:25:34.960 submissive wife

02:25:35.820 that is insane

02:25:36.880 to me that's

02:25:37.640 counterintuitive

02:25:38.160 well i guess i

02:25:39.100 didn't really mean

02:25:39.680 that

02:25:40.020 what i guess

02:25:42.780 i what i'm

02:25:43.380 yes i would

02:25:44.600 like to

02:25:44.860 reframe please

02:25:45.600 okay i

02:25:46.640 would i

02:25:47.060 think that

02:25:47.940 i that

02:25:50.120 doesn't change

02:25:50.920 his role in

02:25:52.320 how he should

02:25:54.000 be leading

02:25:54.640 somebody

02:25:55.300 how do you

02:25:56.260 lead somebody

02:25:56.760 doesn't submit

02:25:57.320 to your

02:25:57.560 leadership

02:25:57.920 how do you

02:25:59.520 submit to

02:25:59.980 somebody who's

02:26:00.560 not leading

02:26:01.240 properly

02:26:01.860 well i mean

02:26:03.080 the problem

02:26:03.600 is is that

02:26:04.320 you don't

02:26:05.140 let's say

02:26:05.600 for a second

02:26:06.220 that you

02:26:07.100 join the

02:26:07.500 military

02:26:07.960 okay

02:26:08.820 you have

02:26:10.540 an expectation

02:26:11.180 that you're

02:26:12.060 going to do

02:26:12.780 what it is

02:26:13.480 that you're

02:26:13.780 expected to

02:26:14.340 do and if

02:26:14.840 you don't

02:26:15.380 there's

02:26:15.660 consequences

02:26:16.220 to that

02:26:16.780 that is

02:26:17.380 part of

02:26:17.780 leadership

02:26:18.160 so if

02:26:19.760 the consequence

02:26:20.340 to this is

02:26:20.960 to say for

02:26:21.540 instance

02:26:21.920 hey

02:26:22.560 if you're

02:26:23.200 a disobedient

02:26:24.180 and non-submissive

02:26:25.680 woman

02:26:25.960 non-submissive

02:26:26.820 wife

02:26:27.220 the last

02:26:28.040 thing i'm

02:26:28.320 going to

02:26:28.540 do is put

02:26:28.940 myself in

02:26:29.540 harm's way

02:26:30.100 because my

02:26:30.560 children are

02:26:31.020 still going

02:26:31.380 to need

02:26:31.700 me

02:26:31.940 that's

02:26:32.440 actually

02:26:32.840 extremely

02:26:33.520 reasonable

02:26:34.200 and a

02:26:34.740 rational

02:26:35.240 response

02:26:35.880 to that

02:26:36.240 isn't it

02:26:36.700 so who

02:26:37.560 goes first

02:26:38.200 yeah can

02:26:39.100 you tell me

02:26:39.420 what the

02:26:39.660 right

02:26:39.820 well women

02:26:40.380 so the

02:26:41.260 thing is

02:26:41.700 is you're

02:26:42.040 supposed to

02:26:42.520 take the

02:26:42.840 plunge

02:26:43.100 together

02:26:43.560 right

02:26:43.920 that's

02:26:44.200 the point

02:26:44.780 but as

02:26:46.340 a relationship

02:26:46.920 progresses

02:26:47.520 what we

02:26:48.040 see more

02:26:48.660 more often

02:26:49.320 than not

02:26:49.700 is that

02:26:49.940 women initiate

02:26:50.620 divorce

02:26:51.160 and they

02:26:51.760 initiate

02:26:52.100 divorce

02:26:52.440 for the

02:26:52.720 stupidest

02:26:53.120 reasons

02:26:53.440 possible

02:26:53.980 and they

02:26:54.600 initiate

02:26:55.000 leaving a

02:26:55.580 relationship

02:26:56.020 for some

02:26:56.460 of the

02:26:56.620 stupidest

02:26:57.020 reasons

02:26:57.300 possible

02:26:57.800 that's

02:26:58.400 the opposite

02:26:59.040 again of

02:26:59.500 submission

02:26:59.960 so if

02:27:00.680 they're

02:27:00.820 looking at

02:27:01.300 it

02:27:01.460 we can

02:27:02.000 make a

02:27:02.640 good

02:27:02.840 determination

02:27:03.300 that women

02:27:04.060 may start

02:27:05.100 out submitting

02:27:05.860 and then decide

02:27:06.740 based on

02:27:07.900 arbitrary means

02:27:08.700 that they don't

02:27:09.120 want to

02:27:09.680 anymore

02:27:10.180 that's the

02:27:10.580 whole point

02:27:11.180 right

02:27:11.460 so what

02:27:12.020 is a

02:27:12.300 man

02:27:12.520 supposed to

02:27:13.020 do when

02:27:13.300 he has a

02:27:13.760 woman

02:27:13.980 that's not

02:27:14.400 being

02:27:14.620 submissive

02:27:16.160 well

02:27:16.460 that's

02:27:16.880 what the

02:27:17.400 Protestantism

02:27:18.860 generally

02:27:19.260 doesn't

02:27:19.600 give you

02:27:19.920 this

02:27:20.160 but that's

02:27:20.520 what the

02:27:20.760 ecclesiastical

02:27:21.400 authority

02:27:21.700 of the

02:27:21.940 church

02:27:22.140 is for

02:27:22.660 the

02:27:23.220 authority

02:27:23.480 of the

02:27:23.780 church

02:27:24.180 you're not

02:27:24.860 supposed to

02:27:25.300 have

02:27:25.560 the marriage

02:27:26.280 of the

02:27:26.520 state

02:27:26.780 doesn't

02:27:27.160 mean

02:27:27.480 anything

02:27:27.840 it's

02:27:28.280 totally

02:27:28.600 irrelevant

02:27:29.020 it's

02:27:29.220 nonsensical

02:27:29.920 there's

02:27:30.480 no support

02:27:31.420 for it

02:27:31.880 that's

02:27:32.260 why

02:27:32.520 there's

02:27:33.180 no

02:27:33.380 groundswell

02:27:34.020 community

02:27:34.520 support

02:27:35.080 the

02:27:35.740 ecclesiastical

02:27:36.460 authority

02:27:36.800 of your

02:27:37.100 church

02:27:37.420 is supposed

02:27:37.840 to be

02:27:38.120 that

02:27:38.280 groundswell

02:27:38.880 and

02:27:39.040 community

02:27:39.440 support

02:27:39.980 which

02:27:40.540 helps

02:27:40.820 prevent

02:27:44.400 that

02:27:44.600 and so

02:27:45.160 what ends

02:27:45.440 up

02:27:45.600 happening

02:27:46.000 is these

02:27:46.700 relationships

02:27:47.300 basically get

02:27:48.200 iced

02:27:48.560 the second

02:27:49.220 woman sees

02:27:50.020 that hey

02:27:50.920 this guy

02:27:51.380 over here

02:27:51.820 makes a little

02:27:52.260 bit more

02:27:52.540 money

02:27:52.740 he's more

02:27:53.000 handsome

02:27:53.320 and he's

02:27:53.600 into me

02:27:54.060 they tend

02:27:54.800 to leave

02:27:55.160 their husbands

02:27:55.640 for that

02:27:56.200 guy

02:27:56.520 or for

02:27:57.000 other

02:27:57.180 arbitrary

02:27:57.560 reasons

02:27:58.140 whereas the

02:27:58.840 church

02:27:59.100 would provide

02:27:59.760 massive

02:28:00.480 quantities of

02:28:01.140 shame

02:28:01.380 from the

02:28:01.700 community

02:28:02.080 that they

02:28:02.440 grew up

02:28:02.900 in

02:28:03.140 and that's

02:28:03.800 why

02:28:03.920 that

02:28:04.060 the church

02:28:04.900 would

02:28:05.060 provide

02:28:05.340 shame

02:28:05.760 is that

02:28:06.020 what you

02:28:06.180 said

02:28:06.380 yeah

02:28:07.560 of course

02:28:08.620 like they

02:28:09.000 would shame

02:28:09.480 her into

02:28:09.880 staying

02:28:10.440 in a

02:28:10.720 marriage

02:28:11.120 no

02:28:11.960 they would

02:28:14.400 for arbitrary

02:28:14.800 reasons

02:28:15.460 holding her

02:28:17.320 accountable

02:28:17.800 like you're

02:28:18.460 not

02:28:18.680 exactly

02:28:20.040 holding her

02:28:20.540 accountable

02:28:20.900 saying listen

02:28:21.540 how can you

02:28:22.320 have these

02:28:22.660 expectations

02:28:23.260 that your

02:28:23.660 husband makes

02:28:24.160 these grandiose

02:28:24.780 sacrifices for

02:28:25.780 you including

02:28:26.180 taking a bullet

02:28:26.980 when you won't

02:28:27.720 even submit

02:28:28.320 to him

02:28:28.800 so what

02:28:29.660 would you

02:28:30.180 say to

02:28:31.160 a couple

02:28:31.620 that is

02:28:31.980 married

02:28:32.380 where the

02:28:32.700 wife's not

02:28:33.220 submitting

02:28:33.700 to the

02:28:34.460 guy

02:28:34.780 what advice

02:28:35.400 would you

02:28:35.820 give that

02:28:36.200 man

02:28:36.500 that fucking

02:28:37.580 chick needs

02:28:38.140 to behave

02:28:38.660 and submit

02:28:39.140 what do you

02:28:39.620 mean

02:28:39.920 that's exactly

02:28:41.460 what I

02:28:41.800 you need

02:28:42.440 to be

02:28:42.720 you need

02:28:46.140 to follow

02:28:46.580 what your

02:28:47.080 role is

02:28:48.260 if you

02:28:50.100 don't have

02:28:50.580 that

02:28:50.820 if you

02:28:51.100 don't have

02:28:51.460 a Christian

02:28:51.800 marriage

02:28:52.240 my advice

02:28:53.080 for you

02:28:53.420 is why

02:28:53.900 even get

02:28:54.300 married

02:28:54.620 that's my

02:28:56.460 question

02:28:57.620 but I

02:28:57.960 still think

02:28:58.720 that people

02:28:59.980 should get

02:29:00.360 married

02:29:00.820 because it's

02:29:01.640 it's a

02:29:02.740 the right

02:29:04.180 thing to

02:29:04.760 do

02:29:05.280 why is it

02:29:06.880 the right

02:29:07.120 thing to

02:29:07.480 do

02:29:07.760 absent

02:29:08.380 a religious

02:29:09.280 marriage

02:29:09.900 this is a

02:29:10.500 question that

02:29:10.940 I have for

02:29:11.360 myself

02:29:11.720 can you

02:29:12.220 make a

02:29:12.620 single

02:29:13.040 reason

02:29:13.660 why

02:29:14.700 a secular

02:29:15.540 person

02:29:16.020 should

02:29:16.260 actually

02:29:16.680 get

02:29:16.880 married

02:29:17.120 because

02:29:17.560 there's

02:29:18.960 a

02:29:19.140 design

02:29:19.760 behind

02:29:20.440 getting

02:29:20.900 married

02:29:21.980 and

02:29:23.120 I

02:29:24.160 don't

02:29:24.540 but I

02:29:25.200 I'm

02:29:25.540 asking

02:29:26.140 because

02:29:26.540 I

02:29:26.800 genuinely

02:29:27.320 question

02:29:27.880 like

02:29:28.180 if

02:29:28.360 people

02:29:28.620 don't

02:29:28.920 have

02:29:29.120 a

02:29:29.260 real

02:29:29.480 relationship

02:29:29.980 with

02:29:30.320 God

02:29:30.580 what

02:29:31.200 is

02:29:31.500 the

02:29:31.640 point

02:29:31.800 in

02:29:31.940 getting

02:29:32.100 married

02:29:32.360 because

02:29:32.560 the

02:29:32.680 entire

02:29:32.960 point

02:29:33.340 that's

02:29:33.700 what

02:29:33.800 I

02:29:34.000 that's

02:29:34.300 my

02:29:34.520 point

02:29:34.900 to

02:29:35.240 you

02:29:35.520 no

02:29:35.780 I'm

02:29:36.000 okay

02:29:36.480 but I'm

02:29:36.920 saying

02:29:37.360 that

02:29:38.460 I

02:29:38.660 still

02:29:39.020 think

02:29:39.340 that

02:29:39.500 it's

02:29:39.660 the right

02:29:41.720 yeah but

02:29:42.220 why

02:29:42.700 um

02:29:44.740 because

02:29:45.320 the wrong

02:29:47.000 thing to

02:29:47.400 do is

02:29:48.100 to

02:29:48.520 continue

02:29:49.120 to have

02:29:49.600 sex

02:29:49.920 outside

02:29:50.240 of

02:29:50.400 marriage

02:29:50.820 yeah but

02:29:51.560 I mean

02:29:51.840 both are

02:29:52.280 wrong

02:29:52.680 the thing

02:29:53.120 is is

02:29:53.460 from a

02:29:53.760 secular

02:29:54.100 from a

02:29:56.060 secularist

02:29:56.580 perspective

02:29:57.080 right

02:29:58.120 they're not

02:29:58.880 doing anything

02:29:59.620 immoral

02:29:59.960 they're not

02:30:00.500 Christians

02:30:00.960 so from

02:30:01.960 their

02:30:02.280 perspective

02:30:02.840 why in

02:30:03.900 the world

02:30:04.320 would it

02:30:04.840 what would

02:30:05.440 be the

02:30:05.700 advantage

02:30:06.140 to a

02:30:06.520 state

02:30:06.700 marriage

02:30:07.060 for a

02:30:07.420 secularist

02:30:07.920 there isn't

02:30:08.740 any

02:30:08.960 there's

02:30:09.360 no

02:30:09.760 advantage

02:30:10.400 to a

02:30:10.780 male

02:30:11.020 in a

02:30:11.300 secular

02:30:11.540 marriage

02:30:11.880 can you

02:30:12.160 name

02:30:12.380 one

02:30:12.700 taxes

02:30:13.240 no not

02:30:14.340 even

02:30:14.660 if you

02:30:16.320 yeah I

02:30:16.820 don't think

02:30:17.380 that's a

02:30:17.820 good reason

02:30:18.420 and I

02:30:19.460 don't think

02:30:19.780 that that

02:30:20.060 really benefits

02:30:20.680 you at

02:30:21.020 all

02:30:21.260 but

02:30:21.840 no

02:30:22.100 it doesn't

02:30:23.720 well we

02:30:24.940 need to

02:30:25.260 fix this

02:30:26.220 yeah but

02:30:27.500 we can't

02:30:27.940 fix it

02:30:28.380 unless people

02:30:29.000 submit to

02:30:29.540 an ecclesiastical

02:30:30.520 authority

02:30:31.060 and people

02:30:32.020 will refuse

02:30:33.100 to submit to

02:30:33.820 an ecclesiastical

02:30:34.480 authority

02:30:34.760 especially women

02:30:35.520 seemingly

02:30:36.800 consequences

02:30:37.640 for women

02:30:38.300 are not a

02:30:39.380 thing that

02:30:39.700 they like to

02:30:40.300 see happen

02:30:40.960 and so

02:30:41.600 they prefer

02:30:42.040 to go

02:30:42.340 through the

02:30:42.700 state

02:30:43.080 rather than

02:30:43.880 a church

02:30:44.380 ecclesiastical

02:30:45.060 marriage

02:30:45.340 because then

02:30:46.140 they have

02:30:46.420 some kind

02:30:46.780 of safety

02:30:47.200 net

02:30:47.560 and so

02:30:48.340 what's

02:30:48.680 happened

02:30:49.000 is inverted

02:30:50.300 right now

02:30:51.120 society gives

02:30:51.820 incentives to

02:30:52.640 women to

02:30:53.480 leave men

02:30:54.160 which is

02:30:54.780 crazy

02:30:55.220 the opposite

02:30:56.120 should be

02:30:56.500 true

02:30:56.660 they should

02:30:56.940 give them

02:30:57.200 disincentives

02:30:58.000 for leaving

02:30:58.520 yeah

02:30:59.260 I agree

02:31:00.240 can I ask

02:31:02.680 just for

02:31:03.060 conversation

02:31:03.660 sake I'm

02:31:04.360 not putting

02:31:05.720 an argument

02:31:06.140 forward but

02:31:06.740 what is a

02:31:08.300 benefit that

02:31:09.420 and I know

02:31:10.780 you're going

02:31:11.020 to say

02:31:11.320 like alimony

02:31:12.040 or whatever

02:31:12.860 but men

02:31:13.800 can also

02:31:14.260 receive alimony

02:31:15.260 what we

02:31:18.400 find

02:31:19.500 what we find

02:31:20.700 is if you

02:31:21.700 were to say

02:31:22.300 for instance

02:31:22.920 in secular

02:31:23.400 marriage

02:31:23.840 that 50

02:31:25.680 there was a

02:31:26.300 50-50 percentile

02:31:27.400 at the time

02:31:28.060 that you know

02:31:29.780 men were

02:31:30.300 awarded custody

02:31:31.720 and that men

02:31:32.360 were awarded

02:31:32.880 alimony

02:31:33.360 men were

02:31:34.020 awarded these

02:31:34.500 things you

02:31:34.860 might have a

02:31:35.280 good point

02:31:35.980 there but

02:31:37.260 that's not

02:31:37.800 what we see

02:31:38.400 what we see

02:31:38.900 is that the

02:31:39.220 court system

02:31:39.660 is very biased

02:31:40.680 towards women

02:31:41.480 it has been

02:31:41.880 for years

02:31:42.260 it's starting

02:31:42.640 to get a

02:31:42.940 little bit

02:31:43.220 better due

02:31:44.140 to men's

02:31:44.660 rights advocacy

02:31:45.280 groups being

02:31:45.900 out there

02:31:46.320 and due

02:31:46.740 to probably

02:31:47.760 the red

02:31:48.120 pill sphere

02:31:48.640 in general

02:31:49.420 has been

02:31:49.960 helpful towards

02:31:50.580 that but

02:31:51.300 that is not

02:31:51.840 what you see

02:31:52.600 and so from

02:31:53.560 a secular

02:31:53.940 perspective

02:31:54.380 if you're

02:31:54.680 a secular

02:31:55.120 man you're

02:31:55.700 a non-Christian

02:31:56.520 man what

02:31:58.000 in the hell

02:31:58.540 would be your

02:31:59.080 incentive to get

02:31:59.720 married when you

02:32:00.440 can just shack

02:32:01.780 up with a chick

02:32:02.400 and have all

02:32:03.000 the same benefits

02:32:03.700 yeah and that's

02:32:04.380 part of the

02:32:04.780 problem is that

02:32:05.740 sex is so

02:32:06.780 available to

02:32:07.760 guys why

02:32:08.940 would they

02:32:09.400 get married

02:32:10.020 well put

02:32:10.860 there's no

02:32:11.360 need

02:32:11.900 good point

02:32:13.000 so then

02:32:13.580 so then

02:32:13.980 brian's stance

02:32:15.040 again i guess

02:32:16.960 bringing it all

02:32:17.540 the way back

02:32:18.000 tying it all

02:32:18.420 the way back

02:32:18.940 is completely

02:32:20.020 reasoned and

02:32:20.760 rational

02:32:21.160 he says

02:32:22.400 there's no

02:32:22.980 value in

02:32:23.600 marriage

02:32:23.980 therefore it

02:32:24.940 can't really

02:32:25.440 even be his

02:32:26.020 wife even if

02:32:26.840 they are

02:32:27.200 married so

02:32:28.080 he doesn't

02:32:28.580 value putting

02:32:29.280 his life on

02:32:29.840 the line

02:32:30.120 there is no

02:32:30.760 submission which

02:32:31.860 can possibly

02:32:32.480 happen because

02:32:33.360 there is no

02:32:33.920 ecclesiastical

02:32:34.580 authority from

02:32:35.580 a secular

02:32:36.080 ethic i i

02:32:37.480 don't know how

02:32:38.600 you fight against

02:32:39.320 that because it's

02:32:40.020 just objectively

02:32:40.720 true yeah yeah

02:32:42.380 we got to fix

02:32:42.960 that i think it's

02:32:44.020 very real and

02:32:45.020 honest a couple

02:32:47.180 quick things well

02:32:47.780 finally we get we

02:32:48.600 got to get into

02:32:48.980 this bear shit the

02:32:50.340 man versus bear

02:32:50.960 we're getting

02:32:51.360 there andrew

02:32:52.820 really quick

02:32:53.500 gerald did ask

02:32:55.140 you he was asking

02:32:56.180 about what book

02:32:57.340 should i read that

02:32:58.020 would bolster my

02:32:58.740 skills and debate

02:32:59.380 and further my

02:33:00.240 understanding of

02:33:01.700 logic and reason

02:33:02.500 you need to ask

02:33:02.940 him fiction or

02:33:03.680 non-fiction and

02:33:04.700 i know that that's

02:33:05.680 kind of a cheap

02:33:06.280 low blow because

02:33:07.060 i'm basically telling

02:33:07.980 you to send in

02:33:08.460 another super chat

02:33:09.380 but i'm going to

02:33:10.000 be elitist andrew

02:33:11.240 tonight and i

02:33:12.240 expect you to send

02:33:12.940 in another super

02:33:13.700 chat so i can tell

02:33:14.540 you fiction or

02:33:15.160 non-fiction do you

02:33:16.300 want uh should we

02:33:18.160 do just three for

02:33:19.060 both or are we

02:33:19.960 going to be god

02:33:20.560 should we be

02:33:21.100 goblin i'm

02:33:22.000 no no no no

02:33:23.160 i'm being elitist

02:33:24.100 andrew tonight

02:33:24.960 oh my god

02:33:25.860 sending in another

02:33:26.560 super chat and

02:33:27.780 then i'll answer

02:33:28.440 fiction or non-fiction

02:33:31.060 i've been trying i've

02:33:31.960 been trying that

02:33:32.500 lately yeah fiction

02:33:33.260 or non-fiction and

02:33:34.740 then when you send

02:33:35.120 in the next one i'll

02:33:35.780 be even more

02:33:36.300 hyper specific

02:33:37.100 should we just to

02:33:39.580 be do we do a

02:33:40.560 champagne pop if

02:33:41.920 he sends in the

02:33:42.520 tts yes do we

02:33:44.500 do we should we

02:33:45.400 should because it

02:33:46.060 is it's i feel like

02:33:47.500 it's a little

02:33:48.060 goblino a little

02:33:49.940 goblin to be like

02:33:51.080 we'll send in

02:33:52.200 another tts and

02:33:53.420 we'll answer but

02:33:54.460 uh really quick on

02:33:56.020 your thing i mean

02:33:56.520 you didn't ask him

02:33:57.280 to and i'm a guest i

02:33:58.700 can you know yeah

02:33:59.680 that's true wipe

02:34:00.740 the mud off on

02:34:01.460 the floor right

02:34:02.120 that's fair yes

02:34:03.020 i if it was

02:34:04.580 directed at me

02:34:05.220 gerald i would

02:34:05.880 have i would

02:34:06.660 have answered

02:34:07.060 um we can't

02:34:09.000 unfortunately we

02:34:09.640 can't force we

02:34:11.820 can't force

02:34:12.500 answer those are

02:34:15.680 the circumstances

02:34:16.540 though there's the

02:34:17.260 all right um

02:34:18.260 really quick you

02:34:18.960 said that you

02:34:20.420 disagreed with me

02:34:21.080 because the

02:34:21.680 responsibility i

02:34:22.620 should still uh

02:34:24.160 take the bullet what

02:34:25.620 was your what did

02:34:26.420 you say like

02:34:26.980 oh my god

02:34:28.880 just gerald

02:34:29.560 donated 200

02:34:30.820 he says both

02:34:31.460 okay both

02:34:32.460 but i like your

02:34:33.820 style is it a

02:34:35.300 i don't know if

02:34:35.860 it's is that a

02:34:36.440 champagne pop i

02:34:37.900 don't think he

02:34:38.440 had to do a

02:34:38.860 champagne pop i

02:34:39.680 mean he played

02:34:40.240 he played along

02:34:40.960 pretty well right

02:34:42.040 like he did

02:34:42.860 all right

02:34:43.400 gerald gerald

02:34:45.080 gerald gerald

02:34:47.200 uh andrew you

02:34:49.240 want to look how

02:34:49.580 excited they are by

02:34:50.500 the way

02:34:50.840 book book rex

02:34:53.240 okay so uh

02:34:55.580 surprisingly one

02:34:56.960 of the not some

02:34:58.520 of the non-fiction

02:34:59.080 books that i would

02:34:59.680 recommend i would

02:35:00.420 start with um it

02:35:01.980 so yeah you get a

02:35:03.020 good understanding

02:35:03.540 of libertarian

02:35:04.280 arguments and then

02:35:05.660 you can reject them

02:35:06.460 all um or from a

02:35:08.840 fiction standpoint i

02:35:09.760 would go with terry

02:35:10.400 goodkind um it's

02:35:12.860 those are excellent

02:35:13.700 books um also on

02:35:15.720 the fiction side of

02:35:16.820 course um you may

02:35:18.500 not believe this but

02:35:19.340 lord of the rings will

02:35:20.100 help you uh because

02:35:21.480 what you're trying to

02:35:22.000 understand is narrative

02:35:23.060 building you're trying

02:35:24.000 to understand how

02:35:24.700 to frame worldviews

02:35:26.200 and frame narratives

02:35:27.200 uh then on the

02:35:29.140 non-fiction side

02:35:30.660 what's that we're

02:35:34.340 all scared we're

02:35:35.160 popping bottles don't

02:35:36.780 hit the cameras yeah

02:35:37.860 then on the on the

02:35:39.900 non-fiction side um i

02:35:43.360 would actually i would

02:35:44.200 recommend that you go

02:35:45.040 over to the patristic

02:35:45.860 faith uh there's some

02:35:47.100 books there by father

02:35:48.240 deacon ananias that

02:35:49.320 will help you immensely

02:35:50.460 when it comes to

02:35:51.860 argumentation i would

02:35:53.500 also read all of the

02:35:55.020 books that you possibly

02:35:55.820 can by a gentleman

02:35:56.740 named aaron clary i

02:35:58.580 don't know if he's

02:35:59.200 ever been on the

02:35:59.820 whatever podcast but

02:36:00.920 if he hasn't he

02:36:01.800 definitely needs to be

02:36:02.900 because um he's been

02:36:04.420 a powerhouse in the

02:36:06.100 red pill community uh

02:36:08.000 for a long time or

02:36:09.120 what is considered the

02:36:10.000 manosphere i'd highly

02:36:11.500 recommend that he go

02:36:12.380 on um he has great

02:36:14.620 books including the

02:36:15.380 book of numbers and

02:36:16.740 books which are in

02:36:18.260 regard to what would

02:36:19.100 happen if men

02:36:19.660 disappeared from the

02:36:20.380 economy tomorrow uh

02:36:22.160 those are fantastic and

02:36:23.380 then jay dyer also has

02:36:25.200 several books which will

02:36:26.360 help you with arguments

02:36:27.460 as well from the

02:36:28.200 christian perspective if

02:36:29.540 we're going to get into

02:36:30.320 detailed philosophy we can

02:36:31.820 get into that too but it's

02:36:32.840 going to cost you another

02:36:34.660 two hundred dollars

02:36:35.640 six hundred dollars

02:36:39.480 you know you can do this

02:36:41.880 yo this one's fucked i

02:36:44.020 swear to god bro

02:36:44.800 i believe in you

02:36:47.800 i'm really you did so

02:36:49.140 good last time what do

02:36:50.120 you mean it's fucked it's

02:36:51.740 not coming off bro i'm

02:36:53.940 doing i'm doing the

02:36:54.860 thing it's just gonna

02:36:55.740 explode i'm doing the

02:36:56.740 whole king thing

02:36:57.420 i'm doing the death grip

02:37:02.700 on this shit no you're

02:37:04.300 not are you twisting it

02:37:05.320 the death grip i did i

02:37:07.120 watched the tutorial i just

02:37:08.440 did this shit bro it's that

02:37:10.060 grip and twist i'm are you

02:37:13.140 you don't have a lot of

02:37:14.580 practice with that brian i'm

02:37:17.840 sorry it's not dude i swear

02:37:20.160 it's glued did you glue the

02:37:21.380 shit nick yeah you fucking

02:37:23.120 super glue the shit no you

02:37:24.560 just gerald donated two

02:37:27.700 hundred dollars you son of a

02:37:29.860 bitch timing

02:37:30.720 oh my god i'm like six

02:37:32.840 hundred you son of a bitch

02:37:34.460 gerald gerald gerald gerald

02:37:37.600 are you popping it dude he's

02:37:41.480 trying

02:37:41.860 can you i'm doing madison

02:37:45.100 madison help right now

02:37:46.500 can you do it i can nick has

02:37:49.500 to do it nick can you do it

02:37:51.420 we need an alpha an alpha male

02:37:53.680 nick nick nick nick nick nick

02:37:58.620 well i swear

02:37:59.680 don't point it at him what you

02:38:06.460 look like you're like not

02:38:07.600 trying this is gratuitous with

02:38:09.540 the moms

02:38:10.080 this is gratuitous scared

02:38:11.880 someone's gonna take the audio

02:38:14.160 from that and just

02:38:15.100 i know

02:38:16.400 i was so easy for him

02:38:22.100 i loosened it i loosened it nick

02:38:25.060 right i loosened it it was like

02:38:26.720 almost he was ready to go i just

02:38:28.200 that was weird

02:38:30.520 i got these dainty gamer hands

02:38:32.940 bro it's fucking genetics fuck

02:38:34.720 all right uh everybody wants a

02:38:37.380 little champagne

02:38:38.080 yes wait so what did gerald what

02:38:39.920 was it he wanted something more

02:38:41.560 he wanted me to get a little bit

02:38:43.440 more hyper specific

02:38:44.360 oh did you

02:38:45.300 generous

02:38:45.900 yeah with particulars

02:38:47.040 yeah i actually had my wife bring

02:38:49.800 him down this is one of my

02:38:51.060 favorites

02:38:51.540 it's the story of philosophy by

02:38:53.780 will durant

02:38:54.420 who he's showing and this goes

02:38:56.460 into a complete overview of some

02:38:59.240 of the greatest philosophers on

02:39:00.380 planet earth and their mainstays

02:39:01.700 for their arguments but also

02:39:02.800 tells you a little bit about

02:39:03.760 their personality so that you can

02:39:05.480 understand why it is that they

02:39:07.580 came at those worldviews the way

02:39:08.840 that they did

02:39:09.400 this one from aaron clary it was

02:39:12.180 another one that i highly

02:39:13.060 recommend

02:39:13.640 a world without men

02:39:15.260 highly recommend that and then

02:39:18.180 dogmatic theology

02:39:19.340 this one is by uh vladimir loski so

02:39:23.620 i don't know if i was allowed to

02:39:25.160 actually show those because of like

02:39:26.500 maybe brand stuff but he did ask for

02:39:28.700 the question is that okay brian

02:39:29.900 oh to show to show the book covers

02:39:32.180 yeah

02:39:32.820 oh like and then also for arguments

02:39:35.620 against feminism i would highly

02:39:37.340 recommend of course oh

02:39:38.820 rachel wilson's book occult feminism

02:39:41.980 her new upcoming book which will be

02:39:44.380 released at near the end of the year

02:39:46.120 or i think even she may have said

02:39:48.100 late summer is literally going to be

02:39:50.540 called arguments against feminism

02:39:52.220 so highly recommend i think she's

02:39:54.760 going to put that out for pre-order

02:39:55.880 soon

02:39:56.300 nice good times good times does

02:40:00.840 everybody have some cheers folks

02:40:02.420 also thank you for the great 600 and

02:40:04.600 supporting whatever they've often

02:40:06.660 had me on as a continued guest i

02:40:08.340 think i'm the longest lasting male

02:40:10.420 guest

02:40:10.740 Andrew where's your liquor

02:40:14.440 Andrew where's your liquor you got

02:40:16.580 some right here man i got vodka oh

02:40:18.780 shit

02:40:19.120 uh let's cheers to gerald polar bears

02:40:23.080 oh okay never mind to polar bears

02:40:25.080 koala bears too koala bears cheers

02:40:27.420 and to gerald to gerald cheers thank

02:40:30.160 you for the champagne thank you pop

02:40:31.980 you got like a two-for-one you got you

02:40:36.880 got a two-for-one combo there you got a

02:40:38.560 discounted heavily discounted shame

02:40:40.940 champagne pop so salute okay on the

02:40:44.420 two

02:40:44.920 almost on two

02:40:46.920 guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever

02:40:49.900 drops the following the prime sub if

02:40:51.260 you have one do you shave your arms

02:40:52.260 right

02:40:52.520 stop

02:40:53.600 actually one time when i was in high

02:40:57.180 school

02:40:57.560 were you on the swim team i was in the

02:40:59.000 i was on the wrestling team and the

02:41:00.740 all the other wrestlers would like i

02:41:03.200 didn't i did the legs too and shit i

02:41:05.380 think swimmers shave their legs yeah

02:41:07.280 right yeah no because i was everybody

02:41:09.780 on my team everybody on my wrestling

02:41:12.100 team in high school they would be they

02:41:14.380 would literally like intentionally like

02:41:15.960 rip your hair out on your legs so i was

02:41:18.660 like

02:41:18.880 you shaved your legs for the wrestling

02:41:22.900 team

02:41:23.220 and and i did i did all body hair bro

02:41:27.020 all body hair dude they was

02:41:28.740 dude the fucking the what's it called

02:41:32.320 the hazing the hazing on the wrestling

02:41:34.600 team was so fucking intense i was like

02:41:37.320 bro i gotta get rid of huh what was it

02:41:39.780 no they would when you're wrestling

02:41:41.540 they'd like rip your like the upper

02:41:44.540 when you were wrestling the people

02:41:46.320 that would happen

02:41:46.920 no they'll just like they'll just mess

02:41:48.300 with you right so you go out and then

02:41:49.700 you'd be you could just be in the in

02:41:51.540 you know the locker room they might

02:41:52.960 reach over and rip some leg hair out

02:41:54.660 just for fun right

02:41:55.620 yeah well yeah messing on the mat

02:41:57.480 leg hair that you can just like yeah

02:41:59.240 well it's men's men are brutal like

02:42:01.600 they're brutal especially when it comes

02:42:03.280 to team building like that they do shit

02:42:05.040 like that all the time yeah well the shit

02:42:07.160 the shit that went down and when i was in

02:42:09.300 high school would never fucking fly

02:42:11.520 they used to leave welts on each other

02:42:13.820 with twizzlers oh we did something

02:42:15.480 crazy like would not be allowed

02:42:19.020 guy things anyways um so yes i did i did

02:42:22.440 shave my legs one time it was the

02:42:24.180 weirdest feeling ever how about growing

02:42:26.060 back did that suck was it super itchy

02:42:27.820 yeah it was pretty weird pretty weird

02:42:30.760 never anyways twitch guys go to twitch.tv

02:42:32.900 slash whatever drop us a follow on the

02:42:34.680 prime sub if you're watching over

02:42:36.720 there twitch.tv slash whatever

02:42:38.100 drops a follow on the prime sub boys

02:42:41.560 appreciate it and then um we have a

02:42:44.780 super chat uh hold on let me pull that

02:42:47.480 up

02:42:47.820 natalia can you read these read this

02:42:51.600 the greatest saint a tell levii it's not

02:42:58.520 feeling it is a very agape so agape

02:43:03.260 agape what does that mean it's a type

02:43:05.600 of uh like isn't it

02:43:07.020 submission submission is a is a higher

02:43:09.480 form of love being thrown away a

02:43:11.920 marriage should

02:43:12.500 throwing away a marriage to feel in

02:43:15.440 love submission is a higher form of

02:43:16.980 love

02:43:17.280 been throwing away a marriage to feel

02:43:21.520 in love

02:43:21.860 thank you thank you realistic heart

02:43:24.540 appreciate it uh thank you yeah so just

02:43:26.700 to um that's a long time supporter of

02:43:28.860 the crucible if you don't mind

02:43:30.160 uh brian i can i can explain what he

02:43:32.280 was saying there is he's saying that

02:43:34.500 submission is the ultimate form of love

02:43:36.320 it transcends a feeling so there can be

02:43:40.040 times where in marriages and you know

02:43:42.020 this you're married and if you don't

02:43:44.180 know it yet you will that there can be

02:43:46.460 years where things can be rocky and

02:43:48.960 tough due to maybe work schedules or um

02:43:51.680 you know children's needs or things

02:43:53.220 like that and sometimes you have to

02:43:55.200 literally go through hell yeah and

02:43:57.480 they're remembering that the feeling

02:44:00.060 the butterfly feeling of love can come

02:44:01.940 and go you can transcend that with

02:44:04.460 submission if i may understanding that

02:44:06.280 understanding that you can move back

02:44:08.100 to that and that um and that that's

02:44:10.940 that's kind of the ultimate form of love

02:44:12.760 is what he's saying if i may i know

02:44:14.400 we're going to talk about the bears i'm

02:44:15.480 sorry but if i may say one last thing

02:44:17.900 um when i may not you may not say one

02:44:21.980 last thing okay go ahead when when i

02:44:24.420 met my husband or like when we started

02:44:26.280 dating i was not attracted to him i

02:44:29.640 literally just heard i i heard god tell

02:44:35.380 me this is your husband submit to him

02:44:37.360 i know that sounds that sounds crazy

02:44:40.560 did you hear the voice he come down he

02:44:42.660 said you will marry him

02:44:45.680 is that how it went came in a burning

02:44:47.940 bush

02:44:48.320 no no not at all it was it was a

02:44:52.200 feeling it was a it was a still small

02:44:54.620 voice and inside my mind inside my

02:44:56.840 heart and i knew that that we had a

02:44:59.640 future together and i knew that the way

02:45:01.260 that he appeared during that time wasn't

02:45:03.040 how he would always be and that he would

02:45:05.100 grow into the man that he was meant to

02:45:06.680 be so when i submitted to him and i

02:45:09.760 showed him you know even though i'm not

02:45:11.360 attracted to you right now i know you're

02:45:13.360 going to transform later on and i know

02:45:16.020 that both of us like we had a glow up

02:45:17.840 together did you tell him that it was

02:45:19.480 really beautiful i would i say this to

02:45:21.160 his face

02:45:21.540 would you say that you molded him into

02:45:23.960 what it was that you wanted i know i'm

02:45:25.120 not attracted to it yeah he knows but

02:45:27.460 sorry what was it you molded him into

02:45:29.380 what it was that you wanted no no are

02:45:32.120 you sure it sounds like a little bit of

02:45:34.040 molding i invented him no i'm kidding

02:45:36.520 but yeah so i agree with you when you say

02:45:40.020 like submitting is the highest form of

02:45:42.240 love because it denies feelings it

02:45:44.160 denies the fleshly desires that we have

02:45:46.780 as humans to to submit to our feelings

02:45:50.240 and feelings are real but often they lie

02:45:52.600 so

02:45:53.360 fishism beautiful it was good it was

02:45:57.160 good okay bears bears bears bears beats

02:46:00.760 battle star galactica all right so guys

02:46:05.160 this has been going viral we did touch on

02:46:07.820 wait wait what beats battle star galactica

02:46:09.940 no bears bears battle star galactica it's

02:46:12.380 an office thing um guys nothing beats

02:46:16.140 battle star galactica okay but anyway

02:46:18.040 the vegetables so yeah he's talking about

02:46:22.060 talking about the vegetables beats uh so

02:46:24.640 guys this has been going viral we talked

02:46:27.080 about it a little bit last show but i think

02:46:30.860 we got to bring it back up we got to bring

02:46:32.560 it back up so there's all these stories

02:46:34.500 nick scroll down just a tad yeah so and you

02:46:37.600 all these it's been everywhere uh other tab

02:46:39.940 nick

02:46:40.160 other next tab and scroll down get to the

02:46:45.120 third page on this get to the look at all

02:46:46.840 these articles about man or bear viral

02:46:49.280 hypothetical question blah blah blah oh my

02:46:52.300 god it's the people are making tick tocks

02:46:54.900 it's just gone insane all this bear and man

02:46:58.380 talk so going around the table going around

02:47:01.680 the table the question is would you rather

02:47:05.600 be stuck in the woods with a man or a bear

02:47:10.460 go ahead that's attacking you just oh my

02:47:13.500 god just sorry answer the question starting

02:47:17.460 with you go ahead a man i think a man a

02:47:21.420 man oh fuck yeah well i have a reason why

02:47:25.340 just like do i have all my regular stuff on

02:47:27.960 me what do i have pepper like if i was in

02:47:31.220 the woods and i had pepper spray on me i

02:47:33.860 think that's going to be more effective

02:47:35.220 against a man than a whole bear spray no

02:47:38.640 no you just oh it's just me by myself you

02:47:42.120 don't you don't you don't have you don't

02:47:43.760 have guns and you're not john rambo

02:47:45.580 it's just you against the elements and

02:47:50.600 that's it i would take the bear the bear

02:47:53.840 okay what about you i guess the man you

02:47:58.160 you guess the man i mean both don't sound

02:48:00.840 very fun but um i understand people's

02:48:03.400 argument i know where you're going with

02:48:05.180 this okay what about you

02:48:06.180 pick the man it depends what kind of

02:48:11.900 hesitation because i have a billion things

02:48:14.640 running through my brain

02:48:15.500 okay if it's a koala bear a hundred

02:48:18.660 percent no questions asked

02:48:20.660 apparently oh fuck what i can change

02:48:23.600 mine i can change mine to the bear i was

02:48:25.280 going either way i said the bear i said

02:48:26.860 the bear

02:48:27.360 let me reframe the question so we can go

02:48:31.580 around the table again if you don't mind

02:48:32.960 humoring me here brian yep

02:48:34.400 if you had if you were if you knew that

02:48:39.260 you were going to be in a in a plane

02:48:41.860 accident somehow you had a crystal ball

02:48:43.800 and you're in the middle of a forest you

02:48:45.700 had essentially no supplies would you

02:48:48.680 rather be stuck in the forest with a bear

02:48:52.000 or a man who you did not know

02:48:54.200 are we going around again yeah oh a man

02:48:59.640 a man a bear because a man that i don't

02:49:04.940 know could be very unpredictable and a

02:49:07.060 bear like it can be unpredictable but if

02:49:09.420 you leave bears alone they will more

02:49:12.840 likely leave you like the man's not

02:49:16.280 necessarily going to attack me but he

02:49:17.920 could do what type of bear is it you

02:49:22.400 don't know the worst kind but look

02:49:24.760 let's assume let's assume it's one of

02:49:26.740 the least one of the less aggressive

02:49:28.340 species it's a um it's a black bear

02:49:31.400 okay i just feel like if it was a man

02:49:35.160 maybe they had a cell phone i could call

02:49:36.760 for help you know what i mean he has

02:49:38.640 nothing he has nothing you have nothing

02:49:40.940 right but i understand the argument you're

02:49:43.200 kind of naked and alone in the wilderness

02:49:46.520 is the man hot do unspeakable things that

02:49:49.320 a bear would be capable of does the man

02:49:51.200 have what's this man look like what if

02:49:55.300 he's cute like what if i like you know

02:49:57.260 you know the man should be afraid to be in

02:49:58.720 the i think i'm gonna choose man okay did

02:50:04.520 you answer i don't think you really

02:50:05.820 answered me yeah um let's say he's not

02:50:09.900 hot you're an ugly man and you don't

02:50:12.400 know him okay um i feel like i could

02:50:16.040 outrun a man but not a bear

02:50:17.540 right either probably i couldn't run

02:50:21.620 either of them but i i know the argument

02:50:24.260 where people are like oh well people

02:50:25.820 would believe me if i was attacked by a

02:50:27.640 bear but not a man i think it would

02:50:29.260 actually be better before you ask the

02:50:30.580 question to show the video brian yeah

02:50:32.220 yeah i agree i don't oh there's a

02:50:34.380 video i don't think there's a video

02:50:35.580 yeah this was all based on a viral

02:50:38.600 video what was the are you talking

02:50:40.680 about the one where it's like that

02:50:42.180 shows the picture of a bear and then

02:50:43.260 the next slides like chris watts and

02:50:45.460 then shows the bear and the next one's

02:50:47.140 like yeah well this is the reason that

02:50:49.460 all this happened when women were asked

02:50:52.400 this question on the street as to

02:50:55.280 whether or not they would rather be

02:50:56.920 secluded with a bear or a man if they

02:51:00.540 were in the middle of a forest now

02:51:01.960 obviously this assumes that you don't

02:51:03.300 have you know advanced ninjitsu skills

02:51:05.600 like you may have perhaps you're a

02:51:07.440 jujitsu expert there have been many

02:51:09.000 jujitsu female experts on the panels

02:51:11.200 here who break everybody's leg but

02:51:13.480 assuming that you're not one of those

02:51:14.920 and you're not armed to the teeth

02:51:16.380 that's that's what the question is is

02:51:19.940 pushing towards

02:51:20.720 did you answer i thought i answered

02:51:27.960 already oh did you oh you kind of like

02:51:29.600 reframed okay so what what is your

02:51:32.180 reframing i thought you were talking

02:51:33.300 about a specific video you're

02:51:34.480 explaining it to brian i can pull up the

02:51:37.060 video i think i found the video i never

02:51:38.880 saw it but i think yeah it's a viral it's

02:51:41.360 a double viral it's on the street no

02:51:43.040 matter what my answer stays man nick it's

02:51:45.920 a private check

02:51:46.840 oh freak i don't know if we're gonna get

02:51:51.980 much pushback on this one but well okay

02:51:54.000 to the argument that like at least someone

02:51:55.560 would believe me if i was attacked by a

02:51:57.680 bear if you your odds of survival of

02:52:00.560 being attacked by a man or a lot higher so

02:52:03.120 i don't care who believes me or who

02:52:04.920 doesn't i'm trying to survive i could

02:52:06.860 probably survive a man i mean my sister

02:52:09.380 got in a pretty big debate about this

02:52:10.660 other day and i had made the comment i

02:52:12.600 was like even if hypothetically i knew

02:52:14.840 he was like a bad man and i think you can

02:52:17.860 put together what i mean by that by the

02:52:19.580 video i explained um i still feel like i

02:52:24.620 would have a slightly better chance it's

02:52:26.680 only one nick that's i just slightly better

02:52:28.420 chance fighting off a man than a bear bad

02:52:31.240 man i would go for the bear yeah i still

02:52:33.700 would if it was ted bundy or chris

02:52:35.220 yeah

02:52:35.500 the thing is like a man could like stalk you

02:52:38.900 through the woods whereas like a bear is

02:52:41.200 not gonna do that like i would maybe

02:52:43.080 change my answer if it was like a hungry

02:52:44.800 starving

02:52:45.260 you don't think animals stalk their prey

02:52:47.220 that's what i'm saying like a mountain

02:52:48.940 lion that's the origination of the word

02:52:51.280 stalk

02:52:51.900 look okay so i have a question for her

02:52:53.760 like for the most part they're gonna

02:52:55.300 leave a human being alone unless they're

02:52:57.400 starving

02:52:57.860 are they you probably are they hold on

02:53:00.040 wait nick put that youtube the youtube

02:53:02.600 are we gonna watch someone get attacked

02:53:03.840 by a bear no we're just it's a youtube

02:53:05.620 tab

02:53:05.860 not that

02:53:07.040 yeah it's already on the thing

02:53:08.560 been in the woods with a bear before

02:53:10.260 yeah

02:53:10.760 that's a fair

02:53:11.740 hang on calm down there's too much

02:53:12.920 woman prattle at one time just one one

02:53:14.820 at a time you got it nick

02:53:15.980 yeah yeah yeah

02:53:19.400 no we're not gonna watch

02:53:20.680 bear attacks woman and then start

02:53:26.280 scrolling down nick

02:53:27.180 i don't know a bunch of women just got

02:53:30.060 fucked up by some bears

02:53:31.420 i don't know they're just all fucked up

02:53:33.900 the bears just fucked them up

02:53:35.220 anyways

02:53:36.120 all the videos are like a majority of it

02:53:38.460 is one person too

02:53:39.560 they got fucked up by bears

02:53:40.980 that shows how that shows how low the

02:53:42.780 bears attack

02:53:43.380 that's true

02:53:44.560 and there's like three or four

02:53:45.240 three or four women

02:53:46.140 okay well

02:53:46.760 wait so i have a question

02:53:47.960 it's because you don't encounter bears

02:53:49.420 all the time

02:53:50.420 so you chose the bear right

02:53:52.000 you were the only one at the table

02:53:53.000 that chose the bear

02:53:53.580 who chose bear just

02:53:54.340 just me

02:53:54.840 i wasn't sure

02:53:55.720 i don't know

02:53:56.360 i'm on the fence

02:53:57.200 i think i'd be more scared of the man

02:53:58.880 i'm not gonna lie

02:53:59.400 do you think that the probability

02:54:00.760 okay because we're assuming that like

02:54:02.920 probably for probability's sake

02:54:04.720 you're not willing to risk the probability

02:54:06.540 that the man you're stuck with

02:54:07.760 is a bad man that could hurt you

02:54:09.180 so because why is he in the jungle alone

02:54:11.500 that's my question

02:54:12.640 you forgot

02:54:13.540 it's irrelevant

02:54:14.640 it's a little weird

02:54:15.640 no but

02:54:16.260 but basically what i'm trying to say

02:54:18.060 is you're assuming that

02:54:19.320 if you're stuck with a man

02:54:20.500 he's more likely

02:54:21.600 probability wise

02:54:22.680 to be bad than good

02:54:23.760 to help you

02:54:24.680 if he's there alone

02:54:25.640 yeah

02:54:25.860 i wouldn't say like

02:54:26.720 there's a higher probability

02:54:28.060 that he's bad

02:54:28.800 but if he is bad

02:54:31.280 there is a

02:54:32.380 a higher probability

02:54:33.540 that he could

02:54:34.460 ted bundy me

02:54:36.300 i don't know

02:54:36.880 he could do unspeakable things

02:54:38.760 a bear would not be capable

02:54:39.960 of doing

02:54:40.740 yeah

02:54:41.200 if i did survive

02:54:43.120 what unspeakable things

02:54:43.560 would a bear not be capable

02:54:44.980 the tiktok one

02:54:45.780 um a bear wouldn't

02:54:47.260 kidnap you

02:54:48.240 a bear wouldn't like

02:54:49.420 assault you

02:54:50.000 like a bear would kill you

02:54:50.980 you would eat your face

02:54:51.920 right

02:54:52.560 you would yeah

02:54:53.440 you would be dead

02:54:54.060 you could die from either

02:54:55.080 but

02:54:55.420 fuck

02:54:56.000 sorry

02:54:57.000 you don't know

02:54:57.420 shit's all fucked

02:54:58.940 is that happening to you

02:55:01.120 that's why i can't

02:55:02.300 yeah for some reason

02:55:02.940 it's not working

02:55:03.480 that's why i was

02:55:04.060 phone out like three times

02:55:05.140 okay don't even click that link

02:55:07.140 it's absolutely

02:55:07.680 fucking my computer

02:55:08.960 um

02:55:10.020 it was a virus

02:55:10.860 oh no

02:55:11.760 um

02:55:13.440 is that the bear segment

02:55:14.560 a lot of the girls

02:55:16.640 on social media

02:55:17.460 we're just not gonna watch

02:55:18.140 the video

02:55:18.500 answer bear and like

02:55:19.380 come out and explain themselves

02:55:20.720 also are just

02:55:22.120 a specific category

02:55:23.360 of girls who've just had

02:55:24.360 bad experiences

02:55:25.400 i agree

02:55:25.820 with men

02:55:26.440 so it's like

02:55:27.160 i think that's fair

02:55:28.620 i mean if you ask me

02:55:29.740 if i'm comfortable

02:55:30.740 if i would feel like

02:55:31.780 really safe

02:55:32.460 if i was sitting

02:55:33.100 in a room with

02:55:34.100 a bunch of men

02:55:34.920 that i didn't know

02:55:35.580 i probably would feel

02:55:36.900 a little bit uncomfortable

02:55:37.580 like if we're gonna go

02:55:38.620 down that road

02:55:39.260 then i could argue

02:55:40.480 for that point

02:55:41.040 would you feel more

02:55:41.900 uncomfortable

02:55:42.480 than if you were

02:55:43.780 in a room full of bears

02:55:44.920 no that's why

02:55:46.040 i answered man

02:55:46.820 but i mean

02:55:48.580 if we're trying

02:55:49.080 to go down

02:55:49.680 like

02:55:49.980 so okay

02:55:50.500 who says bear

02:55:51.640 because i'm gonna give

02:55:52.580 you some alternatives

02:55:53.280 who says bear

02:55:54.100 just you that's it

02:55:56.060 okay great

02:55:56.760 terrible that

02:55:58.220 there's only one bear

02:55:59.480 answer at the table

02:56:00.720 i kind of agree

02:56:01.360 with her

02:56:01.880 yeah she kind of

02:56:02.760 am i bringing

02:56:03.340 some people

02:56:03.920 to the bear side

02:56:05.120 for argument

02:56:05.600 sake

02:56:05.840 both of you

02:56:06.240 are bears

02:56:06.660 okay so i have

02:56:07.540 i'm gonna give

02:56:08.660 a couple different

02:56:10.000 alternatives

02:56:10.900 let me try to get

02:56:11.660 through all of them

02:56:12.260 but what

02:56:13.760 okay let's change it up

02:56:14.900 what about a giant

02:56:16.400 lesbian woman

02:56:17.220 who's a professional

02:56:18.040 mma fighter

02:56:18.880 or a bear

02:56:19.540 what the heck

02:56:21.020 i mean

02:56:21.580 the giant lesbian

02:56:22.480 who's an mma fighter

02:56:23.340 yeah

02:56:23.520 you would

02:56:24.420 i don't have that same

02:56:25.360 fear of women at all

02:56:26.240 doesn't matter if

02:56:27.600 they're a lesbian

02:56:28.160 isn't one of the fears

02:56:32.440 she's not afraid

02:56:33.300 of lesbians

02:56:33.860 one of the arguments

02:56:35.900 i hear on this one

02:56:36.920 is that well

02:56:37.600 the guy could

02:56:38.240 essay you

02:56:38.980 so i was like

02:56:39.960 okay well

02:56:40.720 what about it

02:56:42.180 does it change anything

02:56:43.300 if

02:56:44.560 the man is

02:56:45.940 homosexual

02:56:46.680 if he's gay

02:56:47.860 does that change

02:56:49.360 your answer at all

02:56:50.000 how do i know though

02:56:51.180 it's like a strange man

02:56:52.600 i don't know

02:56:53.280 that's the thing

02:56:54.060 is the not knowing

02:56:55.060 no but you know

02:56:55.680 he's a man

02:56:56.220 so you can also

02:56:57.060 yeah but i don't know

02:56:57.820 that he's gay or not

02:56:58.920 like how would i know

02:57:00.020 he's he's listening

02:57:01.560 to fucking

02:57:02.240 he's wearing a rainbow

02:57:02.800 tutu

02:57:03.240 he's listening to share

02:57:04.820 he's listening to

02:57:05.960 fucking share

02:57:06.680 oh then i would have

02:57:07.820 a share party in the

02:57:08.820 woods with this man

02:57:09.540 that sounds fun

02:57:10.140 he would be no help

02:57:10.980 but just so

02:57:11.580 he would just scream

02:57:12.200 and run away

02:57:12.900 what's that

02:57:13.340 mad is about to happen

02:57:14.420 you can hear through

02:57:15.380 his ipads like it's

02:57:16.560 like he's listening

02:57:17.540 to that like

02:57:18.060 i'm your venus

02:57:19.500 i'm your fire

02:57:21.060 your desire

02:57:22.380 like that's how

02:57:24.060 you know he's gay

02:57:25.160 i'm just walking

02:57:26.560 around

02:57:26.760 you knew that song

02:57:27.640 you knew that song

02:57:29.120 i'm pretty gay

02:57:29.740 like

02:57:30.140 hold on

02:57:31.060 mic drop

02:57:33.420 sus

02:57:34.920 sus

02:57:35.660 brian

02:57:36.920 is the audio

02:57:40.140 the better cue

02:57:43.100 is if a man

02:57:43.780 would rather meet

02:57:44.560 a woman

02:57:44.960 nor a bear

02:57:45.680 in the woods

02:57:46.340 the bear

02:57:47.200 will simply

02:57:47.800 kill and eat you

02:57:48.720 a woman

02:57:49.360 will be pitted

02:57:49.960 and nag a man

02:57:50.720 to death

02:57:51.320 men

02:57:52.140 if you see

02:57:53.060 a woman

02:57:53.500 in the woods

02:57:54.240 run

02:57:54.940 i got some more

02:57:56.860 isn't that the thing

02:57:57.640 though

02:57:57.800 okay i got some more

02:57:59.240 i got some more

02:57:59.820 i once witnessed

02:58:01.740 a man be

02:58:02.460 nagged to death

02:58:03.380 before and it was

02:58:04.140 not pretty

02:58:04.680 actually i gotta

02:58:06.400 send something

02:58:07.000 to nick really quick

02:58:07.900 before i ask

02:58:08.520 this next alternative

02:58:09.500 if you can try

02:58:10.780 to get that

02:58:11.180 pulled up quick

02:58:11.920 uh so

02:58:13.260 what if it's a

02:58:15.080 so so you're

02:58:15.980 you'd prefer the

02:58:16.560 gay man over the

02:58:17.220 bear

02:58:17.440 do i did you

02:58:18.860 guys answer that

02:58:19.380 gay man listening

02:58:20.140 to music yeah

02:58:20.700 that sounds like

02:58:21.120 a good time

02:58:21.600 yeah let's

02:58:22.640 have a party

02:58:23.120 okay what if

02:58:24.180 it's uh so

02:58:25.980 you get the

02:58:26.520 gay man

02:58:26.880 wait he has

02:58:27.300 an ipad

02:58:28.060 does he have

02:58:29.080 service

02:58:29.400 i don't know

02:58:30.100 hold on i'm just

02:58:30.940 thinking how to

02:58:31.360 get out

02:58:31.760 what if it's a

02:58:32.460 gay man who

02:58:33.460 who is a bear

02:58:34.800 or a bear

02:58:35.660 you know like

02:58:36.320 there's a gay

02:58:38.020 there's a gay man

02:58:39.240 it's not clicking

02:58:54.320 just go back to

02:58:55.440 the private chat

02:58:56.100 please

02:58:56.480 it's a gay bear

02:58:57.600 look do you see

02:58:57.920 what's happening

02:58:58.440 you gotta copy and

02:58:59.400 paste the whole thing

02:59:00.080 whole thing whole

02:59:00.700 thing

02:59:00.960 um okay so okay

02:59:04.420 oh we're gonna

02:59:04.900 learn about bears

02:59:05.900 gay bears

02:59:06.620 like a care bear

02:59:08.620 so the in gay

02:59:11.620 culture bear is a

02:59:12.460 term for men who

02:59:13.180 are large scroll

02:59:13.900 down a bit nick

02:59:14.640 oh

02:59:15.540 is this kind of

02:59:16.560 like the opposite

02:59:17.260 of a twink

02:59:17.880 wait there's a

02:59:18.040 better photo scroll

02:59:18.880 down

02:59:19.260 do we know what

02:59:20.720 twinks are

02:59:21.180 like that's a

02:59:21.560 bear

02:59:21.820 oh my god i

02:59:22.920 can't believe i'm

02:59:23.460 looking this shit

02:59:24.080 up

02:59:24.220 are they gay

02:59:24.420 yeah they're gay

02:59:25.740 but i don't know

02:59:26.560 they call themselves

02:59:27.200 bears

02:59:27.620 okay how about

02:59:28.240 this uh for you

02:59:29.880 two uh a trans

02:59:31.520 woman or a bear

02:59:32.320 a trans woman

02:59:36.460 anything but a

02:59:37.880 man yeah

02:59:38.540 and then honestly

02:59:39.620 though like anytime

02:59:40.960 you're in the woods

02:59:41.580 like the likelihood

02:59:42.340 that you're in the

02:59:43.220 woods with a bear

02:59:43.840 and you just have

02:59:44.440 no idea is very

02:59:45.660 high

02:59:46.040 what about a trans

02:59:47.300 woman or or a

02:59:48.560 man

02:59:48.840 the trans woman

02:59:50.160 a woman

02:59:50.480 still still okay

02:59:51.440 because there's

02:59:52.080 trans woman or a

02:59:52.880 bear what about a

02:59:53.820 serial killer woman

02:59:54.960 versus random

02:59:56.820 man okay

02:59:57.760 random man

02:59:58.400 random man

02:59:58.980 if it's a proven

02:59:59.720 serial killer

03:00:00.680 i'm gonna get

03:00:01.840 him okay

03:00:02.660 what about lesbian

03:00:04.800 serial killer versus

03:00:06.180 random man

03:00:07.440 okay we're gonna

03:00:08.060 pick anything but

03:00:08.980 that already falls

03:00:09.540 into serial killer

03:00:10.620 yeah female serial

03:00:11.820 killer lesbian or

03:00:12.680 not no thank you

03:00:13.400 what about a man

03:00:14.400 who is dressed as

03:00:15.620 a bear like a

03:00:16.720 furry or a bear

03:00:18.380 how realistic is

03:00:19.920 this furry bear

03:00:20.720 is it like furry

03:00:21.920 style or is it like

03:00:23.180 real bear style

03:00:24.100 like he's wearing

03:00:24.860 a furry bear

03:00:26.320 does the man

03:00:27.220 believe he's a

03:00:27.860 furry kind of

03:00:28.480 first like the

03:00:29.520 cartoon eyes

03:00:29.640 that's a mentally

03:00:30.280 ill man

03:00:30.820 he's there

03:00:31.380 he's an other

03:00:33.000 kin therian

03:00:33.860 he's other kin

03:00:35.200 therian he yes

03:00:37.120 he's another kin

03:00:38.140 okay so he's

03:00:38.700 mentally ill

03:00:39.300 so here's the

03:00:40.720 thing with the

03:00:41.200 bear costume

03:00:41.920 is like that

03:00:43.300 sounds like it

03:00:44.280 would keep me

03:00:44.740 warm in the

03:00:45.480 night

03:00:45.760 how about this

03:00:46.320 though here's

03:00:46.700 another alternative

03:00:47.340 other alternative

03:00:48.240 10 men or 10

03:00:50.100 bears

03:00:50.520 in the woods

03:00:52.900 oh that sounds

03:00:54.380 like a recipe

03:00:55.100 for disaster

03:00:55.740 yeah bears

03:00:56.400 still bears

03:00:57.580 yeah even

03:00:58.560 though there

03:00:59.220 would be enough

03:00:59.960 good men in

03:01:00.660 that group

03:01:01.120 i think i would

03:01:01.540 rather get eaten

03:01:02.160 by a bear than

03:01:02.760 what would happen

03:01:03.340 in that scenario

03:01:03.920 i'd rather be

03:01:04.660 eaten by a bear

03:01:05.440 than

03:01:05.720 hold on

03:01:06.240 so 10 men

03:01:07.220 or 10 bears

03:01:07.980 so you'd still

03:01:08.760 prefer the bears

03:01:09.420 what about you

03:01:09.980 bears

03:01:11.120 so what percentage

03:01:12.700 of those 10 men

03:01:13.840 do you think

03:01:14.260 would

03:01:14.540 because i'm

03:01:15.960 assuming they're

03:01:16.500 victimizing you

03:01:17.440 if there's one

03:01:18.220 bad man

03:01:18.880 then it stands

03:01:19.760 to reason that

03:01:20.380 the men he hangs

03:01:21.280 out with

03:01:21.720 them his friends

03:01:22.400 they're not

03:01:22.740 let's say

03:01:23.440 they're all strangers

03:01:25.860 they're like

03:01:27.060 it ain't fun

03:01:27.580 if the homies

03:01:28.100 can't have

03:01:28.520 you know what

03:01:29.200 i mean

03:01:29.580 what going on

03:01:30.920 a hike in

03:01:31.420 the woods

03:01:32.080 so what percentage

03:01:33.200 of men do you

03:01:33.820 think okay so

03:01:35.020 there's 10 men

03:01:35.660 or 10 bears

03:01:36.300 you still pick

03:01:37.100 the 10 bears

03:01:37.720 what percentage

03:01:38.640 of the 10 men

03:01:39.360 are bad men

03:01:40.040 then

03:01:40.300 it just takes

03:01:41.060 one

03:01:41.400 if one of

03:01:42.340 them is

03:01:42.620 no but

03:01:42.880 let's say

03:01:43.580 they're all

03:01:43.920 gonna protect

03:01:44.460 you

03:01:44.960 will they

03:01:45.700 because

03:01:46.160 let's say

03:01:46.780 you're all

03:01:47.040 in the same

03:01:48.240 region

03:01:48.700 how often

03:01:50.140 do men

03:01:50.640 stand around

03:01:51.620 and watch

03:01:52.560 their friend

03:01:53.360 or their buddy

03:01:53.960 or some random

03:01:54.800 man do some

03:01:56.100 fuck shit

03:01:56.520 and not intervene

03:01:57.640 i will say

03:01:58.260 though i think

03:01:58.620 that's like

03:01:59.000 so

03:01:59.280 actually

03:02:00.040 you said

03:02:01.760 that you

03:02:02.160 wouldn't intervene

03:02:02.920 are you saying

03:02:03.700 you're not a good

03:02:04.220 man because

03:02:04.660 you wouldn't

03:02:05.080 take a bullet

03:02:05.520 for a woman

03:02:06.040 from a bad

03:02:06.640 man in the woods

03:02:07.400 hold on

03:02:08.100 hold on

03:02:08.940 the fuck

03:02:10.840 that's a good

03:02:11.820 point

03:02:12.320 that's a good

03:02:13.080 point

03:02:13.560 that's if i

03:02:14.180 if i was with

03:02:15.280 okay if there was

03:02:15.960 one man

03:02:16.400 yeah you

03:02:18.000 wouldn't be

03:02:18.380 willing to

03:02:18.820 step in

03:02:19.360 and risk

03:02:20.080 your life

03:02:20.560 to step

03:02:21.100 in

03:02:21.460 so are

03:02:22.260 you a bad

03:02:22.760 man

03:02:23.020 if you

03:02:23.200 wouldn't do

03:02:23.440 it for

03:02:23.600 your wife

03:02:23.960 i don't

03:02:24.400 think that

03:02:24.780 i think

03:02:25.260 a man's

03:02:25.840 unwillingness

03:02:26.720 to potentially

03:02:27.880 intervene in

03:02:28.640 a scenario

03:02:29.120 where he

03:02:29.600 could face

03:02:30.140 uh

03:02:30.920 but you

03:02:31.200 have eight

03:02:31.620 other buddies

03:02:32.380 oh well

03:02:33.600 in this scenario

03:02:34.000 it's the ten

03:02:35.300 men in the woods

03:02:35.920 and there's one

03:02:36.480 bad man

03:02:36.960 yes

03:02:37.060 if there's

03:02:37.680 yeah

03:02:37.940 okay

03:02:38.520 yes if i

03:02:39.300 got

03:02:39.440 if there's

03:02:40.140 nine of us

03:02:40.700 but if you're

03:02:41.120 all hanging

03:02:41.640 out

03:02:41.920 if one man's

03:02:42.740 a bad man

03:02:43.380 two men in the woods

03:02:44.300 you were one of them

03:02:45.080 and the other one

03:02:45.760 was like attacking

03:02:46.820 her

03:02:47.120 would you

03:02:47.920 yeah then

03:02:48.360 i would have

03:02:48.940 to fucking

03:02:49.560 assess the

03:02:50.380 threat there

03:02:51.180 i would attempt

03:02:52.540 to intervene

03:02:54.060 as long as you

03:02:54.480 would attempt

03:02:54.880 the intent

03:02:55.960 would be to

03:02:56.460 help

03:02:56.600 i think i

03:02:58.640 would attempt

03:02:59.040 i think i

03:02:59.800 would attempt

03:03:00.140 an intervention

03:03:00.660 i think

03:03:01.680 i'm getting

03:03:02.160 like mauled

03:03:02.600 by the bear

03:03:03.180 maybe

03:03:03.940 not totally

03:03:05.100 sure

03:03:05.520 brian

03:03:06.840 help me

03:03:07.620 like here's

03:03:08.440 i'm gonna be

03:03:09.220 super honest

03:03:09.960 i'm gonna be

03:03:11.120 super honest

03:03:11.840 okay

03:03:12.140 if if he's

03:03:13.460 like 300

03:03:14.740 pounds

03:03:15.280 and like

03:03:16.340 six foot

03:03:16.960 five

03:03:17.440 and if i

03:03:18.220 attempt to

03:03:18.660 intervene

03:03:19.000 i'm gonna

03:03:19.400 die

03:03:19.820 but also

03:03:21.940 she's a

03:03:22.320 random woman

03:03:23.080 it's a

03:03:23.600 random woman

03:03:24.260 so

03:03:25.160 yeah and

03:03:25.700 she's

03:03:25.920 random

03:03:26.140 yeah exactly

03:03:26.800 not your

03:03:27.220 wife

03:03:27.540 yeah i'm

03:03:27.900 out

03:03:28.140 i'm out

03:03:28.840 i'm out

03:03:29.360 but what if

03:03:30.200 he's like

03:03:30.620 what if the

03:03:31.200 300 pounds

03:03:31.760 is just like

03:03:32.160 all fat

03:03:32.720 and you just

03:03:33.040 like

03:03:33.260 basically a

03:03:37.600 bear gay man

03:03:38.320 would be the

03:03:38.840 same equivalent

03:03:39.480 of what used

03:03:40.440 to be a

03:03:41.000 i can't say

03:03:41.960 that word

03:03:42.400 but a

03:03:43.600 yep that

03:03:44.780 thing

03:03:45.100 yep

03:03:45.680 okay hold

03:03:48.140 on so okay

03:03:48.700 really 10

03:03:49.280 men that's

03:03:49.920 crazy because

03:03:50.600 that means you

03:03:51.300 think that more

03:03:52.340 than like 50% of

03:03:53.360 men would like

03:03:53.960 do some shady

03:03:54.980 shit well i do

03:03:56.100 think it's

03:03:56.440 interesting that

03:03:57.620 we're the only

03:03:58.260 two that do

03:03:58.680 only fans and

03:03:59.460 we feel this

03:04:00.080 way i just

03:04:00.740 have to say

03:04:01.420 yeah i don't

03:04:02.140 know what i

03:04:02.480 mean by that but

03:04:03.160 it's just an

03:04:03.580 interesting i

03:04:04.480 used to oh

03:04:05.500 yeah no i

03:04:06.280 agree that is

03:04:07.040 interesting

03:04:07.440 well you

03:04:07.720 didn't do

03:04:08.260 boy girl

03:04:08.880 we're terrified

03:04:09.600 i interact with

03:04:11.000 a large variety

03:04:12.420 of men on a

03:04:13.160 very regular

03:04:13.820 basis

03:04:14.000 tell us more

03:04:14.500 i mean

03:04:14.800 oh i'm so

03:04:17.780 sorry andrew

03:04:18.400 i'm sorry

03:04:19.180 what did you

03:04:19.900 say

03:04:20.160 yeah so i

03:04:21.840 was saying

03:04:22.380 tell us more

03:04:23.480 about how

03:04:24.560 you distrust

03:04:25.640 of men

03:04:26.180 comes from the

03:04:27.020 sex industry

03:04:27.660 i'd like to

03:04:28.080 hear more about

03:04:28.680 that

03:04:28.960 i'm not saying

03:04:29.520 it does but

03:04:30.080 i do think

03:04:30.440 there's a

03:04:30.700 correlation

03:04:31.080 probably we

03:04:31.920 could both

03:04:32.240 admit that

03:04:33.320 we're terrified

03:04:33.900 because i think

03:04:35.500 it's just

03:04:35.820 interesting we're

03:04:36.400 the only two

03:04:36.900 that answered

03:04:37.380 this i think

03:04:38.180 i've probably

03:04:38.700 seen and met

03:04:39.980 and been intimate

03:04:40.660 with more men

03:04:41.340 than anybody

03:04:42.280 at this table

03:04:42.960 so is that

03:04:44.760 like a badge

03:04:45.300 of honor

03:04:45.740 yeah honestly

03:04:47.340 like thank you

03:04:48.320 it is um

03:04:49.140 but i would just

03:04:51.120 say i have a

03:04:51.940 much larger

03:04:52.660 i have a larger

03:04:54.180 sample size to be

03:04:55.460 drawing my

03:04:56.020 information from

03:04:57.100 but your sample

03:04:58.220 larger sample

03:04:58.960 size of degenerate

03:05:00.000 men that's true

03:05:01.300 and that's true

03:05:01.940 it is a very

03:05:02.480 different sample

03:05:03.120 size however

03:05:03.780 it's a random

03:05:05.140 man i don't know

03:05:06.180 i don't know

03:05:06.860 like what pool

03:05:07.640 of samples

03:05:08.820 or whatever

03:05:09.420 the fuck

03:05:09.760 we're saying

03:05:10.180 like you know

03:05:10.900 what kind of

03:05:11.240 man he is

03:05:11.680 if it's a

03:05:12.380 it's a strange

03:05:13.580 man i think

03:05:14.920 that that situation

03:05:16.620 donated

03:05:17.400 one hundred

03:05:18.120 and ninety

03:05:18.780 nine dollars

03:05:19.680 and is it

03:05:20.800 just me or

03:05:21.600 does andrew

03:05:22.100 look younger

03:05:22.740 for some reason

03:05:23.660 lol thoughtful

03:05:24.660 face

03:05:25.280 because i don't

03:05:28.100 have the gray

03:05:29.080 beard that i

03:05:29.780 normally have

03:05:30.420 that's probably

03:05:30.960 why you think

03:05:31.540 that but

03:05:32.420 anyway i appreciate

03:05:33.600 the uh the

03:05:34.400 two hundred

03:05:34.880 uh but kind

03:05:36.040 of back to

03:05:36.400 the conversation

03:05:37.120 so the it's

03:05:39.000 interesting it is

03:05:39.800 interesting to me

03:05:40.460 that you draw

03:05:40.900 this parallel

03:05:41.540 that the two

03:05:43.340 only fans girls

03:05:44.560 are who are

03:05:46.060 engaged in in

03:05:47.280 sex work will be

03:05:48.460 as charitable to

03:05:49.200 your uh language

03:05:50.560 as we possibly can

03:05:51.720 be i guess

03:05:52.260 have a huge such

03:05:54.100 a huge distrust

03:05:55.020 of men that they

03:05:56.480 would rather

03:05:57.500 perhaps be in the

03:05:58.660 wilderness with

03:05:59.480 bears than women

03:06:01.600 who deal with i

03:06:02.700 don't know

03:06:03.040 non-degenerate

03:06:04.000 porn addict men

03:06:04.940 right yeah god

03:06:06.160 what's that say

03:06:06.720 about the

03:06:07.540 degenerate porn

03:06:08.580 addict men i

03:06:09.420 think it says

03:06:09.840 more about

03:06:10.160 women who engage

03:06:12.540 with the

03:06:13.160 degenerate porn

03:06:14.220 addict men

03:06:14.920 yeah because

03:06:16.800 you're the one

03:06:17.280 that's sleeping

03:06:17.760 with them

03:06:18.280 okay well have

03:06:19.360 you ever met

03:06:19.920 a degenerate

03:06:21.180 man in your

03:06:22.560 life yeah

03:06:23.380 like i think

03:06:24.000 everybody at

03:06:24.540 this table

03:06:24.900 probably has

03:06:25.680 i also am

03:06:26.680 not sleeping

03:06:27.120 with them

03:06:27.540 but the point

03:06:28.300 here is is

03:06:29.020 that how can

03:06:29.600 you in the

03:06:30.300 same breath

03:06:30.920 say hey

03:06:31.980 there's nothing

03:06:32.440 wrong with

03:06:32.900 this this is

03:06:33.460 just um

03:06:34.140 it's just a

03:06:34.940 job but

03:06:36.020 at the same

03:06:36.500 time the

03:06:37.180 pool of men

03:06:38.000 that you

03:06:38.460 choose from

03:06:39.120 have made

03:06:39.520 you so

03:06:39.820 distrustful

03:06:40.400 of men

03:06:40.820 that you

03:06:41.440 might choose

03:06:42.200 a bear

03:06:42.840 potentially

03:06:43.320 eating your

03:06:43.880 face rather

03:06:44.580 than trust

03:06:45.280 a man because

03:06:46.440 of the type

03:06:47.260 of man you

03:06:47.760 end up having

03:06:48.220 to deal with

03:06:48.980 isn't that

03:06:49.400 kind of an

03:06:49.820 insane uh

03:06:51.380 perspective on

03:06:52.100 life a little

03:06:52.740 bit yes also

03:06:53.600 it's like what

03:06:54.200 came first the

03:06:54.960 chicken or the

03:06:55.520 egg i can't

03:06:56.140 speak for you

03:06:56.860 but i feel like

03:06:57.740 maybe bad

03:06:58.780 experiences led

03:06:59.780 me to get

03:07:00.260 into sex

03:07:00.800 work yeah

03:07:01.300 that i had

03:07:01.700 with men

03:07:02.200 prior to

03:07:03.180 being a sex

03:07:03.800 worker

03:07:04.060 no i'm not

03:07:05.060 saying that

03:07:05.480 i'm just saying

03:07:06.240 accountability oh

03:07:07.620 no i take full

03:07:08.280 accountability i

03:07:08.900 make my own

03:07:09.320 choices i suffer

03:07:10.160 the consequences

03:07:10.780 of my own

03:07:11.260 actions

03:07:11.320 well then how

03:07:11.460 is it men

03:07:12.080 how is it

03:07:12.640 men

03:07:12.760 like the

03:07:14.640 reason the

03:07:15.640 reasoning behind

03:07:16.260 something is a

03:07:17.440 little bit different

03:07:17.940 i'm just saying

03:07:18.500 like previous to

03:07:19.620 doing only fans i

03:07:20.440 had certain

03:07:20.940 experiences in

03:07:21.820 life that maybe

03:07:22.640 got me into

03:07:23.320 that line of

03:07:24.040 work i take

03:07:25.260 accountability and

03:07:26.160 i take responsibility

03:07:27.040 by not going into

03:07:28.200 the woods with

03:07:28.800 strange men that i

03:07:29.780 don't know and

03:07:30.240 have you ever

03:07:30.720 had a one night

03:07:31.260 stand a one night

03:07:33.120 stand no have

03:07:33.900 you ever met a

03:07:34.580 guy and shortly

03:07:35.680 thereafter i don't

03:07:37.060 well hang on i

03:07:37.680 don't understand i

03:07:38.480 if i just if you

03:07:39.580 don't mind if i

03:07:40.020 interject earlier and

03:07:41.640 i took a note on

03:07:42.620 this you said that

03:07:43.320 you want to be more

03:07:44.180 promiscuous with

03:07:45.240 men how is it that

03:07:46.620 you can hold the

03:07:47.500 position that you

03:07:48.160 would prefer to be

03:07:48.920 more promiscuous with

03:07:50.040 men but at the same

03:07:51.060 time not trust them

03:07:52.140 over a fucking

03:07:53.020 savage bear in the

03:07:54.300 wilderness i don't

03:07:55.100 i don't want to be

03:07:56.640 i don't want to be

03:07:57.280 promiscuous with

03:07:58.240 random men that i

03:08:00.160 don't know i want to

03:08:00.840 be promiscuous with

03:08:01.940 the guys that i

03:08:03.280 already know and i

03:08:03.860 already fuck like i'm

03:08:05.340 not trying to put

03:08:06.080 myself in an unsafe

03:08:07.560 uh situation just to

03:08:09.280 get off but i am

03:08:10.560 trying to get off

03:08:11.500 but wait a second

03:08:12.900 this would so so

03:08:15.000 you're saying that

03:08:15.560 you're only promiscuous

03:08:16.620 with men that you

03:08:17.340 know a really long

03:08:18.240 time not a really

03:08:19.780 long time but i don't

03:08:21.080 i definitely don't

03:08:22.220 go home with strange

03:08:23.260 men um that's not

03:08:25.180 my question that's

03:08:25.960 just not something

03:08:26.720 hang on hang on

03:08:27.500 can you answer the

03:08:28.180 question i actually

03:08:28.960 asked you so the

03:08:30.680 men i and as you

03:08:32.440 know because last

03:08:33.220 time i was on the

03:08:33.720 podcast i explained

03:08:34.400 this i only have sex

03:08:35.700 with men in the

03:08:36.640 industry who are in

03:08:37.640 the talent pool

03:08:38.420 yeah that's not my

03:08:39.460 question what can

03:08:40.760 let me repeat the

03:08:41.840 question one more

03:08:42.720 time are you saying

03:08:44.020 that you only sleep

03:08:44.760 with men who you've

03:08:45.500 known for a really

03:08:46.260 long time what's a

03:08:47.560 really long time oh

03:08:49.180 i don't know uh let's

03:08:50.380 just say more than

03:08:51.060 30 days for me

03:08:53.820 guys no you know

03:08:55.900 it's not even a

03:08:56.680 30 day gap before

03:08:58.060 you sleep with them

03:08:58.720 and you're hang on

03:08:59.760 and and your position

03:09:00.720 here is that hang

03:09:02.500 on i just want to

03:09:03.120 make sure i get this

03:09:03.600 right you don't even

03:09:04.560 have a 30 day barrier

03:09:06.160 before you sleep with

03:09:07.000 men that's the level

03:09:08.800 of promiscuity you're

03:09:09.580 talking about but yet

03:09:11.020 you're saying i'm so

03:09:12.640 distrustful of men

03:09:14.000 that i'd rather

03:09:15.180 potentially hang out

03:09:16.860 with a wild fucking

03:09:18.220 bear thinking that

03:09:19.740 they will be less

03:09:20.500 likely to attack me

03:09:21.440 you see how this

03:09:22.040 rationale doesn't

03:09:22.900 make much sense to

03:09:23.640 me right i'll pull

03:09:25.720 that back up in a

03:09:26.480 sec nickelodeon

03:09:27.200 okay so i sorry i

03:09:31.140 like lost my train of

03:09:31.880 thought a little bit

03:09:32.320 there you're supposed

03:09:32.720 to read it um i'm in

03:09:35.860 a very unique situation

03:09:37.520 being in the porn

03:09:38.740 industry most of the

03:09:39.660 men that i meet i have

03:09:40.520 sex with i met on a

03:09:42.280 porn set having sex

03:09:43.640 with them in a very

03:09:44.740 controlled environment

03:09:46.340 entertainment with like

03:09:47.680 lots of other people

03:09:48.680 around i want to be

03:09:49.580 more promiscuous mean

03:09:50.720 does that mean that

03:09:51.380 you just want to fuck

03:09:52.080 more people in the

03:09:52.800 porn industry or does

03:09:53.760 that mean that you

03:09:54.280 want to have sex with

03:09:55.300 you know people external

03:09:56.460 to that as well just

03:09:58.560 people in the porn

03:09:59.320 industry i don't want to

03:10:00.340 be super vulgar on

03:10:01.980 youtube and get into

03:10:02.840 the specifics of how i

03:10:06.500 want to be more

03:10:07.280 promiscuous youtube

03:10:08.640 youtube doesn't care

03:10:09.760 about the specifics of

03:10:11.240 um of of sex work they

03:10:13.240 only care if you're you

03:10:14.560 know preaching for jesus

03:10:15.540 christ then you'll get

03:10:16.420 banned they don't care

03:10:17.160 if you uh if you talk

03:10:18.280 about whatever degeneracy

03:10:19.400 that you want they don't

03:10:20.100 give a shit okay i i just

03:10:21.360 don't want to get you

03:10:21.900 guys in trouble like i

03:10:22.860 want to do more like

03:10:23.920 more gangbangs more

03:10:25.680 double penetration things

03:10:27.220 like that but i don't

03:10:28.140 mean i want to do that

03:10:29.100 with random strangers or

03:10:31.000 be unsafe or you know

03:10:33.180 practice that's fucking

03:10:34.860 disgusting let me

03:10:37.420 intro let me interject

03:10:38.340 really quick let me read

03:10:39.360 a couple of the chats

03:10:40.080 here or actually natalia

03:10:41.820 if you can read

03:10:42.680 maybe it is the blank

03:10:47.400 corn adult brain rot men

03:10:50.500 that have experienced

03:10:51.660 that make them these bad

03:10:53.980 men able to see nude

03:10:56.180 women whenever they want

03:10:57.120 online thanks to women

03:10:58.260 like you

03:10:58.780 yo nickelodeon thank you

03:11:01.100 man sorry that the tts

03:11:02.080 didn't go off i think

03:11:03.040 because there was uh corn

03:11:04.940 in the uh tts at any

03:11:08.580 time it has to bleep

03:11:09.780 anything out it's not

03:11:10.940 going to uh do the tts

03:11:13.120 voice but i tried to

03:11:13.920 get it as quickly as i

03:11:14.840 could could you read

03:11:15.480 this one 32 years old

03:11:17.760 divorcing father of three

03:11:19.200 boys 88k a year about to

03:11:21.620 go through bankruptcy

03:11:22.580 because shiz is tough in

03:11:25.140 cali for a single father

03:11:26.460 who is paying child

03:11:28.260 support ladies who would

03:11:30.280 let me take them on a

03:11:32.040 date you sure you're on a

03:11:34.600 date you know the single

03:11:38.080 girls did you say that you

03:11:40.300 are interested in making

03:11:41.840 sorry wait is this related

03:11:43.860 to the tts the message

03:11:45.640 that just came in i said

03:11:46.860 i would do i need to

03:11:47.940 answer that first well i

03:11:49.480 have like five chats i got

03:11:50.640 to get through we can

03:11:51.460 honestly though i'm not

03:11:52.960 really interested in the

03:11:53.860 porn is bad conversation

03:11:55.100 any longer to be honest

03:11:56.600 it's rather it's rather

03:11:58.100 huh thanks i just wanted to

03:11:59.560 hear the point okay yeah

03:12:02.080 we'll go right yeah

03:12:03.160 he's bankrupt oh no i

03:12:08.380 don't want to date i don't

03:12:09.520 want to date we don't know

03:12:11.020 him at all so we're just

03:12:12.080 basing it off like the

03:12:12.920 negative things he's telling

03:12:14.000 us like he might have a lot

03:12:15.080 of really positive

03:12:15.780 attributes and other

03:12:17.720 things that he's not

03:12:18.360 highlighting so much are

03:12:19.380 you paying in child support

03:12:20.460 thrash man i know you

03:12:21.380 sent this in like 20

03:12:22.220 minutes ago but uh i mean

03:12:24.320 what if the question is

03:12:25.140 reversed if there was um

03:12:27.260 there was a panel full of

03:12:28.540 men instead the reverse

03:12:30.300 question was hey i'm going

03:12:31.900 through a brutal divorce

03:12:33.080 with my husband right um

03:12:35.400 but um you know i'm real

03:12:37.460 pretty and stuff uh do you

03:12:39.580 think that the response

03:12:41.480 would be uh would be the

03:12:43.000 same adak you're in

03:12:45.320 california no i mean i

03:12:47.340 think that you should not

03:12:48.780 date her she needs to get

03:12:49.840 that stuff figured out

03:12:50.800 first yeah i mean i would

03:12:52.940 agree but my question is do

03:12:54.160 you think the response

03:12:54.840 would be i think men would

03:12:55.740 be more willing than women

03:12:56.880 would be in the opposing

03:12:57.920 situation willing to have

03:12:59.320 sex with pretty much any

03:13:00.580 woman a date is a

03:13:01.880 different like sex is yeah

03:13:04.760 i don't know i don't see

03:13:06.660 many of them on this panel

03:13:08.000 talking about how they can't

03:13:09.320 wait to get double

03:13:10.020 penetrated just point that

03:13:11.940 out well you asked for a

03:13:12.900 panel of men i mean i feel

03:13:15.140 like at least one of them

03:13:15.900 sure uh let's do another

03:13:18.440 chat okay same question but

03:13:21.420 instead of a forest you're in

03:13:22.620 a women's bathroom i mean

03:13:25.880 where a bear wouldn't be in a

03:13:27.240 women's bathroom but what if a

03:13:28.840 typical situation agitated as

03:13:30.700 hell in the women's bathroom

03:13:31.900 yeah which do you pick i'd make

03:13:33.580 it even worse is the the man i

03:13:36.820 have you picked that yeah that's

03:13:39.280 interesting i don't know but

03:13:40.300 wouldn't that be a trans

03:13:41.340 bathroom like can i just leave the

03:13:43.500 bathroom the bear the bear or man

03:13:46.040 in a woman's bathroom am i in the

03:13:49.900 stall already like can i wait for

03:13:51.420 the bear to leave what is the bear

03:13:54.740 doing there what is the man doing

03:13:56.240 you can wait in the stall either to

03:13:58.000 leave whatever whatever the

03:14:00.300 particulars there are that you want

03:14:01.840 to attribute to the hypothetical you

03:14:03.580 can but just hypothetically in a

03:14:07.040 bathroom and a man wanders in or a

03:14:09.760 fucking black bear wanders in which

03:14:11.980 one would you prefer

03:14:12.920 i'd prefer a man man the man

03:14:18.060 allie are you answering man or

03:14:21.960 bear she did she answered man yeah

03:14:24.120 i guess man what's the difference

03:14:25.320 you don't get your answers from

03:14:26.780 someone else i'm just i'm just

03:14:27.760 curious i'm just curious the

03:14:29.580 difference why you'd pick a man now

03:14:31.340 versus before i don't really understand

03:14:32.880 the question i think like yeah in an

03:14:34.940 enclosed space it's harder with the

03:14:36.880 bear like the bears definitely here's

03:14:38.440 the thing with bears are more

03:14:39.960 predictable animals than strange men

03:14:43.740 and i know that in a enclosed space

03:14:47.840 in a bathroom like what is the bear

03:14:49.680 doing there it's gonna freak out for

03:14:51.340 sure

03:14:51.620 for sure i agree with that it's not

03:14:54.500 like their habitat yeah like at that

03:14:56.900 point like no that guy slingshot

03:14:59.420 donated $199 fun fact bears who are

03:15:04.800 vicious meat eaters spend their time in

03:15:06.800 the woods searching for their next meal

03:15:09.100 men spend their time in the woods to

03:15:11.240 escape from whatever woman is

03:15:12.900 currently on their nerves

03:15:14.340 yeah but maybe i'm in the woods because

03:15:17.960 i want to escape from the man that's

03:15:19.740 getting on my nerves and then i don't

03:15:21.060 want to see another man

03:15:22.260 have you ever once gone out to the

03:15:24.780 woods by yourself and camp so that you

03:15:27.260 could escape a man

03:15:28.180 have you been to the woods you do much

03:15:29.940 camp

03:15:30.120 have i been to the woods i go hiking

03:15:35.680 sometimes it's not really like to be

03:15:37.920 honest it's not really my thing is it

03:15:40.760 with a man when you go hiking uh yeah

03:15:43.380 yeah kind of figured but like it's not

03:15:46.840 a strange man you ever hiked with a

03:15:47.900 bear

03:15:48.120 i have seen a bear on a hike i have and

03:15:51.360 it was really really cool

03:15:52.000 wait i have a question if i can ask her

03:15:53.860 so if you're going on a hike with a man

03:15:55.760 that you've known for less than 30 days

03:15:57.440 how is that different from a random

03:15:59.500 man

03:15:59.940 see but i i haven't gone on a hike with

03:16:02.080 a man i've known for less than 30 days

03:16:03.840 here hold on i i got another scenario

03:16:05.900 here let me give you another scenario and

03:16:07.500 then we'll pull up some more of the

03:16:08.540 chats here

03:16:09.020 so okay if your question is bear over

03:16:13.300 man

03:16:13.760 what if we just replaced a lot of you

03:16:18.440 live in a city right do you think you

03:16:20.460 would be safer in a city if we just

03:16:23.240 replaced all men with bears no but all

03:16:27.360 of you live in probably metro like

03:16:29.660 either the metro area or the you know

03:16:31.900 the city itself how surrounded by men

03:16:34.960 constantly

03:16:35.540 i don't know where i live there's a

03:16:36.940 lot of wildlife but not bears but when

03:16:38.860 you're not alone with them like there's

03:16:40.040 like other witnesses like they're less

03:16:41.620 likely to do certain things

03:16:42.820 yeah like that's what i like about being

03:16:44.320 in a city

03:16:44.720 right

03:16:45.160 but would you be more safe

03:16:47.620 attack squirrels and attack rabbits

03:16:48.960 would you be more safe or less safe if we

03:16:51.760 snapped our fingers and all men in your

03:16:54.220 city became bears just we replace them

03:16:58.420 with bears would you be more safe or

03:17:00.760 less safe and let's say you're you're

03:17:03.340 even out somewhere when this happened

03:17:05.220 like let's say you're at the club with

03:17:06.760 your girls and it just switch all the

03:17:09.660 men become bears

03:17:10.560 you're just throwing it back on a bear

03:17:12.540 now

03:17:12.720 you're safer with with the bears or with

03:17:17.260 the men

03:17:17.640 um okay like in a city situation yeah

03:17:20.940 with the men i don't know if the bears

03:17:22.220 are gonna roofie us

03:17:23.240 one time i ate bear meat i'm not kidding

03:17:25.920 i was in canada and i ate bear meat and

03:17:27.520 it smelled so bad

03:17:28.640 i can't imagine how that city would smell

03:17:30.640 yeah what is that you bear like from a

03:17:33.640 bear

03:17:33.940 oh you ate bear meat

03:17:35.200 yeah it's nasty

03:17:36.460 what if we okay what if we change the

03:17:38.280 setting

03:17:38.680 andrew kind of already asked this with

03:17:40.520 the bathroom thing

03:17:41.120 eat this horse

03:17:42.140 change the setting a little bit

03:17:43.620 we beat this bear

03:17:44.920 what about a 10 by 10 room

03:17:46.340 it's like a bathroom

03:17:48.240 that's like the bathroom situation

03:17:49.660 that's the same question

03:17:50.560 a little different though

03:17:51.740 it's a little different

03:17:52.840 a little different

03:17:53.300 because that makes me choose man

03:17:54.660 but if i was in a bathroom

03:17:55.680 you're so far away from the mic

03:17:56.980 oh sorry

03:17:57.800 so if it's different in the bathroom

03:17:59.860 because my thing with it being a

03:18:01.480 a random guy in the bathroom is

03:18:03.320 why that increases his chance of

03:18:05.420 being a freak

03:18:06.400 yeah

03:18:06.900 that's true

03:18:07.700 i just don't get like why with my

03:18:09.700 other one with the city one

03:18:10.820 if your choice is bear why choose

03:18:12.540 to live in cities

03:18:13.440 which are occupied by hundreds of

03:18:15.780 thousands or even millions

03:18:16.880 of men

03:18:17.900 why not go into the woods

03:18:19.480 or forest with bears if you really

03:18:21.460 genuinely feel like bears are

03:18:24.080 safer than men

03:18:25.200 i don't leave my house much

03:18:26.100 we live in like a society

03:18:27.840 okay

03:18:28.260 men can break into your house

03:18:29.560 i'm very scared of that

03:18:31.440 okay

03:18:32.000 i'm terrified of that

03:18:34.240 so is it because you don't

03:18:35.680 trust men that you choose the

03:18:36.960 bear

03:18:37.140 for both of you

03:18:38.400 i guess

03:18:39.660 yeah and i think this argument

03:18:40.880 kind of proves it

03:18:41.720 because a lot of men are more

03:18:42.960 focused on like

03:18:43.740 oh why don't you trust me

03:18:44.920 like

03:18:45.280 you know instead of

03:18:46.880 instead of just working on

03:18:48.080 being more trustworthy people

03:18:49.460 okay

03:18:50.960 um

03:18:52.100 and then you know like

03:18:53.260 i've seen all the memes

03:18:54.320 of like

03:18:54.920 oh this is what a bear would

03:18:56.120 like they're

03:18:56.760 they're

03:18:57.380 you know

03:18:57.700 not everyone

03:18:58.380 but there's people online

03:18:59.480 who are definitely relishing

03:19:00.700 and and getting kind of

03:19:02.420 excited

03:19:03.480 and like

03:19:04.140 very into the idea of like

03:19:05.820 women being mauled by bears

03:19:07.760 that guy slingshot

03:19:08.800 donated

03:19:09.340 one hundred and ninety nine

03:19:11.140 dollars

03:19:11.660 look up timothy treadwell

03:19:13.540 and tell me again

03:19:14.780 that you would rather

03:19:15.680 trust a bear

03:19:16.520 over a man

03:19:17.380 i'll know if the

03:19:18.620 photos are kind of

03:19:19.580 uh

03:19:20.080 yeah

03:19:20.440 are gruesome

03:19:21.680 then we probably can't

03:19:23.180 we can't look it up

03:19:23.940 they would be gore

03:19:25.020 yeah

03:19:25.320 or gore

03:19:26.000 yeah

03:19:26.180 and i've

03:19:26.780 i've seen photos of

03:19:28.260 of people mauled by bears

03:19:29.560 and i've seen photos of

03:19:30.600 people attacked by men

03:19:31.960 like

03:19:32.500 well in this bathroom scenario

03:19:33.940 did you guys have

03:19:34.620 definitive answers to that

03:19:35.820 the

03:19:36.100 you prefer

03:19:37.120 i guess because it's like

03:19:38.720 that's not their habitat

03:19:39.880 for a bear

03:19:40.740 so i think i could picture

03:19:43.140 it going crazier

03:19:43.860 than like in a huge

03:19:44.960 jungle forest

03:19:45.820 whatever

03:19:46.160 yeah

03:19:48.300 in that scenario

03:19:49.000 i think

03:19:49.360 aspen right

03:19:50.320 you brought up a good

03:19:51.180 point that a man in the

03:19:52.300 bathroom would be

03:19:53.100 like the fuck is he doing

03:19:54.760 in the bathroom right

03:19:55.320 and at that point it's like

03:19:57.340 like you just

03:19:58.120 well i mean

03:19:58.800 wait a second

03:19:59.480 they go in there

03:20:00.220 all the time

03:20:00.740 but i think that's

03:20:01.320 kind of like

03:20:02.020 why you would

03:20:03.300 be nervous

03:20:03.980 or why you would not

03:20:05.140 trust like

03:20:05.740 you know

03:20:06.480 somebody because

03:20:07.580 would you trust a man

03:20:08.920 wearing a wig

03:20:09.500 to go in the bathroom

03:20:10.220 then

03:20:10.520 no

03:20:11.300 is it a man

03:20:13.380 wearing a wig

03:20:14.400 or are you getting

03:20:15.560 at something else

03:20:16.260 well i mean

03:20:18.000 it's the same

03:20:18.580 same point right

03:20:19.520 they can still have

03:20:20.200 all the plumbing

03:20:20.700 but they

03:20:22.080 they just say

03:20:22.960 me a woman

03:20:23.900 right so

03:20:24.800 i mean you would

03:20:25.540 would you trust them

03:20:26.460 to go in the bathroom

03:20:27.140 then

03:20:27.420 but i do think that

03:20:28.600 then in that

03:20:29.200 instance like

03:20:30.680 intention is important

03:20:31.860 because i've definitely

03:20:33.160 been i've definitely

03:20:34.160 been in the bathroom

03:20:35.320 with trans women before

03:20:36.380 and they have not

03:20:37.000 assaulted me

03:20:37.560 and it's not been

03:20:38.320 an issue at all

03:20:39.200 i don't know

03:20:39.960 because i feel like

03:20:40.480 you hear a lot of

03:20:41.000 stories that come out

03:20:41.680 about assaulted you

03:20:42.740 stuff happening

03:20:43.820 in the locker rooms

03:20:44.440 and so you've been

03:20:45.120 in the bathroom

03:20:45.720 with men before

03:20:46.440 and they haven't

03:20:46.900 assaulted you

03:20:47.460 is what you're saying

03:20:48.100 yeah but i haven't

03:20:50.860 been yeah so i

03:20:51.680 i don't understand

03:20:52.340 in the bathroom

03:20:53.100 scenario i did say

03:20:54.040 that i chose a man

03:20:54.920 yeah so what are

03:20:56.980 you getting at

03:20:57.520 andrew

03:20:57.860 are you listening

03:20:59.860 yeah i'm listening

03:21:01.460 okay i don't know

03:21:03.440 my conclusion on

03:21:04.280 the whole bear thing

03:21:05.040 is i mean at least

03:21:05.960 my analysis

03:21:06.560 you can't really

03:21:07.780 understand at least

03:21:09.000 for those who pick

03:21:09.740 bear you can't

03:21:10.280 really understand

03:21:10.860 it rationally

03:21:11.900 or logically

03:21:12.560 because it's not

03:21:13.340 i think the bear

03:21:14.260 choice is simply

03:21:15.220 social signaling

03:21:16.860 about how much

03:21:18.600 women don't like

03:21:19.380 men

03:21:19.780 or how they're

03:21:22.960 afraid of men

03:21:24.060 yeah i don't think

03:21:24.660 it's like a dislike

03:21:25.220 how they feel unsafe

03:21:26.140 around men

03:21:26.780 but i mean how you

03:21:28.120 feel about a situation

03:21:29.700 and the reality

03:21:30.780 yeah of a situation

03:21:32.300 are completely different

03:21:33.860 well it's just not

03:21:34.720 it's not a rational

03:21:37.280 choice

03:21:37.640 it doesn't mean

03:21:38.060 that they hate

03:21:38.620 men i mean you

03:21:39.260 can feel afraid of

03:21:40.460 something and not

03:21:41.260 hate it

03:21:41.780 well then they're

03:21:43.080 bigoted

03:21:43.440 well like i could be

03:21:44.860 afraid of a lion but

03:21:45.920 it doesn't mean i hate

03:21:46.520 lions

03:21:46.980 well

03:21:48.720 valid

03:21:52.000 yeah

03:21:52.340 so just like if

03:21:53.740 you can you can

03:21:54.580 replace the word

03:21:55.120 hate with like

03:21:55.700 afraid i guess

03:21:56.700 and that would be

03:21:57.920 a valid or that

03:21:58.760 would be

03:21:59.120 well i said i

03:21:59.620 didn't use the word

03:22:00.160 hate i said

03:22:00.820 don't like men

03:22:01.900 you said hate

03:22:03.160 you said hate

03:22:03.840 no i don't

03:22:05.760 i didn't say hate

03:22:06.820 also in this scenario

03:22:07.680 i'm picturing like

03:22:08.420 a scary

03:22:08.860 her point still stands

03:22:10.780 her point still stands

03:22:11.900 i'm pretty sure i said

03:22:12.320 she can be afraid of

03:22:13.000 lions and not

03:22:13.840 dislike them

03:22:14.760 so that's

03:22:16.200 did you say hate

03:22:17.300 you did

03:22:17.860 did i

03:22:19.280 yes

03:22:19.800 okay i could have

03:22:20.680 i could have

03:22:21.280 i'm pretty sure

03:22:22.820 i don't disagree though

03:22:24.020 i don't hate men

03:22:25.640 i thought i said

03:22:26.780 don't like men

03:22:27.600 but maybe

03:22:28.160 i don't hate men

03:22:28.980 uh they feel

03:22:31.620 unsafe around men

03:22:33.020 or just distrust

03:22:34.700 but also the

03:22:35.700 bathroom scenario

03:22:36.400 as compared to

03:22:37.160 the forest scenario

03:22:38.500 i'm picturing two

03:22:39.520 different men in my

03:22:40.560 head someone who

03:22:41.560 would be isolated

03:22:42.440 in a forest

03:22:43.900 versus someone

03:22:44.600 who's just in a

03:22:45.100 bathroom which

03:22:45.580 everyone goes to

03:22:46.320 the restroom every

03:22:46.900 day i do think

03:22:47.660 it's fair to say

03:22:48.420 that a lot of

03:22:49.140 women are like

03:22:50.640 distrusting and

03:22:51.360 maybe a little bit

03:22:51.820 afraid of strange

03:22:52.880 men that they

03:22:53.300 don't know

03:22:53.640 okay i mean

03:22:57.180 i mean

03:22:58.420 i would be afraid

03:22:59.720 of a strange

03:23:00.340 bear i didn't

03:23:01.040 know right

03:23:01.960 do you know

03:23:03.760 a lot of bears

03:23:04.520 yeah but

03:23:05.920 do i need to

03:23:06.900 know a lot of

03:23:07.320 bears to know

03:23:07.900 that i'd be

03:23:08.640 distrustful of a

03:23:09.560 wild animal who

03:23:10.440 was a giant

03:23:11.240 bear do i need

03:23:12.260 to know him

03:23:12.760 i don't understand

03:23:13.600 i need to have

03:23:14.480 an interpersonal

03:23:15.100 relationship with

03:23:15.980 bears to know

03:23:16.640 how fucking

03:23:17.100 dangerous they

03:23:17.740 are

03:23:18.000 brian was just

03:23:18.820 bringing up the

03:23:19.440 whole point of

03:23:20.060 the conversation

03:23:21.200 and why we were

03:23:22.960 having it basically

03:23:23.720 is that a lot of

03:23:24.700 women are afraid

03:23:26.180 of men

03:23:26.460 i think it's

03:23:27.420 just like

03:23:27.800 like i said

03:23:28.460 an opportunity

03:23:29.000 to socially

03:23:29.720 signal a lot

03:23:31.540 of women just

03:23:32.120 have sort of

03:23:34.260 biases against

03:23:35.900 men

03:23:36.060 why would they

03:23:36.980 be afraid of

03:23:37.620 men anyway

03:23:38.240 i mean most

03:23:39.640 of the domestic

03:23:40.220 violence happens

03:23:41.100 from women to

03:23:41.800 men not from

03:23:42.520 men to women

03:23:43.060 in fact there

03:23:44.640 was a meta

03:23:45.000 analysis that

03:23:45.720 was done on

03:23:46.260 this which i

03:23:46.780 can send over

03:23:47.460 brian can pull

03:23:48.200 it up if you

03:23:48.740 like

03:23:48.980 are three times

03:23:49.780 more likely to

03:23:50.660 commit a violent

03:23:51.320 crime

03:23:51.580 no this is

03:23:52.580 absolutely well

03:23:53.520 now hang on

03:23:54.520 that may be

03:23:55.260 true against

03:23:55.620 other men

03:23:56.240 but not

03:23:57.200 against women

03:23:57.800 when it comes

03:23:58.360 to women

03:23:58.820 you're looking

03:23:59.320 at domestic

03:23:59.940 violence stats

03:24:00.800 it's absolutely

03:24:01.460 not true

03:24:02.180 you're talking

03:24:02.700 about analysis

03:24:03.580 done on this

03:24:04.440 this was done

03:24:05.760 here i'll pull

03:24:06.660 it up for you

03:24:07.180 right now

03:24:07.640 domestic violence

03:24:08.280 just so that

03:24:08.840 you guys have

03:24:10.080 the difference

03:24:10.800 in frequency

03:24:11.440 of violence

03:24:12.100 and reported

03:24:12.700 injury between

03:24:13.500 relationships with

03:24:14.440 reciprocal and

03:24:15.220 non-reciprocal

03:24:16.120 intimate partner

03:24:17.040 dynamics

03:24:18.380 inside of this

03:24:19.700 it was discovered

03:24:20.480 that men are

03:24:22.040 just far less

03:24:22.980 likely to report

03:24:24.200 that they were

03:24:24.720 the victims

03:24:25.280 of domestic

03:24:25.900 violence

03:24:26.420 because it's

03:24:28.060 demasculating

03:24:28.840 however women

03:24:29.980 are the ones

03:24:30.580 who assault

03:24:31.520 men far more

03:24:32.900 than men

03:24:33.400 assault women

03:24:34.060 okay that's

03:24:35.120 domestic violence

03:24:35.900 but you can

03:24:36.440 still look up

03:24:37.240 you can look up

03:24:38.260 the statistics

03:24:38.740 if you want

03:24:39.220 but i know

03:24:39.600 that they're

03:24:40.020 correct

03:24:40.540 well but if

03:24:41.540 it's not

03:24:42.020 more likely

03:24:42.620 to commit

03:24:43.140 a violent

03:24:43.640 crime

03:24:43.880 no they're

03:24:44.160 not they're

03:24:44.720 not correct

03:24:45.360 against women

03:24:46.260 no that's

03:24:46.920 not correct

03:24:47.580 domestic violence

03:24:48.560 accounts for

03:24:49.260 most domestic

03:24:50.360 violence accounts

03:24:51.140 for the overwhelming

03:24:51.980 amount of

03:24:53.280 violence

03:24:53.760 committed towards

03:24:54.860 women

03:24:55.160 i'm not saying

03:24:55.860 it's against

03:24:56.400 men or women

03:25:00.740 i mean it

03:25:01.920 doesn't really

03:25:02.400 matter anyway

03:25:03.040 because either

03:25:04.060 way the men

03:25:04.580 the man is

03:25:05.220 still the aggressor

03:25:06.000 which is the

03:25:06.420 point of the

03:25:06.780 argument who's

03:25:07.600 he who he's

03:25:08.400 being aggressive

03:25:08.900 towards isn't

03:25:09.820 the argument

03:25:10.420 but no that's

03:25:12.060 not the point

03:25:12.740 of the argument

03:25:13.200 the point of

03:25:13.600 the argument

03:25:13.980 is that women

03:25:14.880 do women

03:25:15.620 distrust men

03:25:17.100 because they

03:25:18.040 consider men

03:25:18.980 because they

03:25:19.740 consider men

03:25:20.360 to be physical

03:25:20.940 threats

03:25:21.460 and what i'm

03:25:22.340 saying to you

03:25:22.880 is that while

03:25:23.400 it may be so

03:25:24.240 that they do

03:25:25.140 that doesn't

03:25:25.900 mean it's

03:25:26.400 justified that

03:25:27.440 they do

03:25:27.860 because when

03:25:28.360 we look at

03:25:28.780 the statistics

03:25:29.360 on this

03:25:29.880 it does not

03:25:30.540 appear that

03:25:31.620 their justification

03:25:32.260 is there

03:25:33.020 for instance

03:25:33.840 have you guys

03:25:35.020 been

03:25:36.280 let me finish

03:25:39.940 the question

03:25:40.500 calm down

03:25:41.340 have any of

03:25:42.260 you gals

03:25:42.740 here

03:25:43.180 have random

03:25:44.640 men just

03:25:45.420 show up

03:25:45.960 and beat

03:25:46.340 you

03:25:46.960 has that

03:25:47.320 ever happened

03:25:47.940 to any of

03:25:48.400 you

03:25:48.480 just a random

03:25:49.100 guy just

03:25:49.540 shows up

03:25:49.900 and beat

03:25:50.180 you up

03:25:50.600 has that

03:25:51.100 ever happened

03:25:51.640 to me

03:25:51.920 no but

03:25:52.420 assaulted

03:25:52.760 yes

03:25:53.100 not random

03:25:53.880 that's my

03:25:56.940 question

03:25:57.280 have you ever

03:25:57.800 been assaulted

03:25:58.480 this is why

03:25:59.000 it's phrased

03:25:59.520 this way

03:26:00.040 so that you

03:26:00.540 can understand

03:26:00.980 the question

03:26:01.480 has a random

03:26:03.040 guy walked

03:26:04.040 over and beat

03:26:04.820 you up

03:26:05.240 no

03:26:05.520 no

03:26:06.640 has that

03:26:07.480 ever happened

03:26:07.900 show of

03:26:08.220 hands

03:26:08.440 but I say

03:26:09.700 yes

03:26:10.280 assaulted

03:26:10.920 yes

03:26:12.440 and you can

03:26:13.000 be afraid

03:26:13.420 of someone

03:26:13.720 listen

03:26:14.360 no the answer

03:26:15.260 is no

03:26:15.720 have you seen

03:26:16.520 a woman

03:26:16.840 go up to

03:26:17.260 a random

03:26:17.580 man

03:26:17.620 it's not

03:26:17.820 my question

03:26:18.480 answer my

03:26:19.280 question

03:26:19.620 don't ask

03:26:20.240 me one

03:26:20.720 before it's

03:26:21.240 answered

03:26:21.720 show of

03:26:22.500 hands

03:26:22.920 for the

03:26:23.580 women here

03:26:24.060 who've had

03:26:24.500 a random

03:26:24.960 guy just

03:26:25.500 show up

03:26:25.900 and beat

03:26:26.160 them up

03:26:26.520 and beat

03:26:27.720 beat them up

03:26:28.760 specifically

03:26:29.280 no other

03:26:30.580 type of

03:26:30.980 assault

03:26:31.200 you're not

03:26:31.720 going to

03:26:31.940 accept any

03:26:32.380 other

03:26:32.540 accent

03:26:32.700 abuse

03:26:33.700 okay

03:26:35.000 before you

03:26:35.220 go into

03:26:35.660 but this

03:26:36.160 other

03:26:36.380 thing

03:26:36.660 happened

03:26:37.020 just

03:26:37.280 bear

03:26:37.600 with

03:26:37.780 the

03:26:37.900 actual

03:26:38.240 question

03:26:38.840 holy

03:26:39.360 shit

03:26:39.660 don't

03:26:39.980 divert

03:26:40.420 don't ask

03:26:41.580 something

03:26:41.880 different

03:26:42.360 just answer

03:26:43.360 the question

03:26:43.900 it's not

03:26:44.200 that hard

03:26:44.680 so since

03:26:45.660 that's never

03:26:46.100 happened to

03:26:46.580 any of you

03:26:47.220 you understand

03:26:48.100 that this

03:26:48.700 actually is rare

03:26:49.680 that this

03:26:50.180 happens at all

03:26:50.800 to any

03:26:51.240 women

03:26:51.580 outside of

03:26:53.120 a domestic

03:26:53.860 situation

03:26:54.700 so that's

03:26:55.540 why we look

03:26:55.960 at the

03:26:56.160 domestic

03:26:56.680 violence

03:26:57.380 stats

03:26:57.880 because that's

03:26:58.840 going to be

03:26:59.060 the overwhelming

03:26:59.720 amount of

03:27:00.840 these types

03:27:01.980 of abuses

03:27:02.540 and it seems

03:27:03.420 that the

03:27:04.240 threat of

03:27:04.900 men is

03:27:05.780 wildly

03:27:06.200 overplayed

03:27:06.960 in society

03:27:07.500 towards women

03:27:08.260 is sexual

03:27:09.000 assault not

03:27:09.720 a form of

03:27:10.260 violence

03:27:10.640 that's what

03:27:11.480 I'm scared

03:27:11.820 of

03:27:12.000 if you want

03:27:13.920 to get into

03:27:14.320 essays then

03:27:15.140 let's talk

03:27:15.720 about the

03:27:16.240 fact that

03:27:16.860 there's so

03:27:17.340 many female

03:27:18.060 teachers who

03:27:18.780 essay their

03:27:19.440 students

03:27:19.960 do you want

03:27:20.660 to get into

03:27:21.040 the stats

03:27:21.500 on that

03:27:21.940 that's not

03:27:22.460 alone in

03:27:22.960 the woods

03:27:23.320 though

03:27:23.740 do you think

03:27:27.660 you have

03:27:28.120 better chances

03:27:28.860 of surviving

03:27:29.620 with a

03:27:30.020 polar bear

03:27:30.540 or a

03:27:31.000 man in

03:27:31.320 the wild

03:27:31.820 here's

03:27:33.080 here's

03:27:33.480 the thing

03:27:33.900 hold on

03:27:34.200 let's do

03:27:34.980 this

03:27:35.220 let's do

03:27:36.320 this

03:27:36.640 answer

03:27:37.060 the polar

03:27:37.480 bear

03:27:38.360 pick the

03:27:40.080 polar bear

03:27:40.680 or man

03:27:41.120 a man

03:27:42.280 I guess

03:27:43.000 to survive

03:27:44.120 a man

03:27:44.620 okay

03:27:46.760 polar bears

03:27:47.420 are the most

03:27:47.840 aggressive

03:27:48.180 but that's

03:27:48.220 not what

03:27:48.480 I'm scared

03:27:48.940 of

03:27:49.240 I'm

03:27:49.620 specifically

03:27:50.040 scared

03:27:50.420 of getting

03:27:50.700 essayed

03:27:51.120 by the

03:27:51.360 man

03:27:51.560 in the

03:27:51.940 forest

03:27:52.520 alone

03:27:52.880 so what

03:27:53.480 okay that's

03:27:55.980 a possibility

03:27:56.540 what are the

03:27:57.580 I don't

03:27:58.440 really think

03:27:58.740 a bear

03:27:59.040 is capable

03:27:59.480 what percentage

03:27:59.960 of men

03:28:00.360 do you think

03:28:00.680 would do

03:28:00.960 that

03:28:01.160 because okay

03:28:01.640 so you're

03:28:02.620 being in the

03:28:03.420 man versus bear

03:28:04.340 thing you're

03:28:04.740 being assigned

03:28:05.340 a totally

03:28:06.020 random man

03:28:06.740 so based

03:28:08.360 on that

03:28:08.740 you're having

03:28:09.480 to make some

03:28:10.000 assumptions there

03:28:10.620 about the

03:28:11.420 probability of

03:28:12.160 any given

03:28:13.060 random man

03:28:13.860 doing that

03:28:14.300 what do you

03:28:14.900 think that

03:28:15.260 the frequency

03:28:17.040 is of men

03:28:17.620 doing that

03:28:18.020 well I'm

03:28:18.640 picturing like

03:28:19.440 the fact that

03:28:20.020 he is in

03:28:20.740 the woods

03:28:21.040 alone

03:28:21.360 you're

03:28:21.660 overthinking

03:28:22.180 it

03:28:22.420 let's just

03:28:23.920 the motivations

03:28:25.500 of why he

03:28:26.240 he's in the

03:28:27.120 woods are

03:28:27.680 relevant

03:28:28.080 like he's

03:28:28.860 not home

03:28:29.160 with his

03:28:29.400 kids

03:28:29.580 he's not

03:28:29.820 with his

03:28:30.100 wife

03:28:30.200 both

03:28:30.700 randomly

03:28:31.060 spawned

03:28:31.420 you're

03:28:31.560 just

03:28:31.740 yeah you

03:28:32.500 randomly

03:28:32.820 spawned

03:28:33.220 in the

03:28:33.380 woods

03:28:33.620 okay

03:28:34.080 um

03:28:34.680 well then

03:28:35.440 that's

03:28:35.700 less of a

03:28:36.100 chance

03:28:36.320 it randomly

03:28:37.000 yeah okay

03:28:37.580 it randomly

03:28:38.320 selects

03:28:40.420 out of the

03:28:41.000 what

03:28:41.320 but you get

03:28:42.040 what I'm

03:28:42.260 picturing right

03:28:42.860 like an

03:28:43.220 axe murderer

03:28:43.820 type dude

03:28:44.580 it could be

03:28:45.120 what percentage

03:28:45.880 of men

03:28:46.140 are axe

03:28:46.500 murderers

03:28:46.860 that's the

03:28:47.160 thing you

03:28:47.440 have to

03:28:47.760 you don't

03:28:48.160 know

03:28:48.440 but the

03:28:49.180 thing is

03:28:50.320 is if we're

03:28:50.720 talking about

03:28:51.380 why men

03:28:53.920 I can't

03:28:54.460 speak for

03:28:55.020 why men

03:28:56.200 are afraid

03:28:56.440 of men

03:28:58.500 sorry I

03:28:58.900 misspoke

03:28:59.260 okay

03:28:59.580 um

03:29:00.180 I

03:29:01.100 I would

03:29:01.980 I could

03:29:02.880 almost bet

03:29:03.400 that every

03:29:04.120 woman at

03:29:04.480 this table

03:29:04.860 or I

03:29:05.480 know like

03:29:05.960 at least

03:29:06.280 99%

03:29:07.720 of the

03:29:08.040 people

03:29:08.340 the women

03:29:08.860 I know

03:29:09.180 in my

03:29:09.380 life have

03:29:09.800 been

03:29:10.140 a victim

03:29:11.420 to a man

03:29:12.360 in some

03:29:13.240 form whether

03:29:13.640 it was sexually

03:29:14.220 or physically

03:29:14.860 they're kind

03:29:15.800 of the same

03:29:16.020 thing but

03:29:16.500 in some way

03:29:17.600 shape or

03:29:18.320 form

03:29:18.520 yeah whether

03:29:18.980 they're an

03:29:19.440 OF worker

03:29:20.240 or a sex

03:29:21.160 worker or not

03:29:21.860 but I don't

03:29:22.580 believe it

03:29:23.120 so here's

03:29:23.980 the thing

03:29:24.320 right like

03:29:24.780 I don't

03:29:25.080 actually

03:29:25.460 believe that

03:29:26.480 this is so

03:29:27.140 what I think

03:29:28.020 happens instead

03:29:29.040 and the stats

03:29:29.980 bear this out

03:29:30.580 as well

03:29:31.060 that things

03:29:31.920 which women

03:29:32.540 would consider

03:29:33.160 to be SA

03:29:33.880 men just

03:29:34.400 simply do

03:29:34.900 not

03:29:35.300 so for

03:29:35.960 instance

03:29:36.260 unwarranted

03:29:36.780 touching

03:29:37.220 by women

03:29:38.140 towards men

03:29:38.880 men just

03:29:39.560 disregard it

03:29:40.440 whereas women

03:29:41.100 will often

03:29:41.560 freak out

03:29:42.080 about it

03:29:42.560 so I'm

03:29:43.060 not so

03:29:43.920 um

03:29:44.700 and by the

03:29:45.880 way I also

03:29:46.660 have the

03:29:47.140 Cardinal

03:29:47.620 Wilson rule

03:29:48.520 and here's

03:29:48.920 the Cardinal

03:29:49.320 Wilson rule

03:29:50.020 if there was

03:29:50.800 no police

03:29:51.420 report I

03:29:52.080 don't fucking

03:29:52.520 believe you

03:29:53.080 that's my

03:29:53.780 that's my

03:29:54.360 actual rule

03:29:55.080 if there was

03:29:55.400 no police

03:29:55.860 report

03:29:56.300 right

03:29:57.180 then I

03:29:58.560 think that

03:29:59.140 the chances

03:29:59.760 that it

03:30:00.120 actually happened

03:30:00.840 in a significant

03:30:01.420 way are not

03:30:02.920 true

03:30:03.220 that's that's

03:30:04.000 my that's

03:30:04.640 my own

03:30:05.000 my own

03:30:05.540 personal rule

03:30:06.220 for this

03:30:06.720 well and even

03:30:09.040 if there's

03:30:09.780 I think there's

03:30:10.300 no police report

03:30:11.080 it's not gonna

03:30:12.020 get processed

03:30:12.840 it just sits

03:30:13.720 on a

03:30:14.040 in most

03:30:14.520 yeah

03:30:14.760 been there

03:30:15.420 done that

03:30:15.860 well okay

03:30:16.460 but there's

03:30:16.820 still a report

03:30:17.420 right

03:30:17.680 yeah no

03:30:18.060 yeah so

03:30:20.180 so that's

03:30:20.680 the thing

03:30:20.980 is like

03:30:21.500 that's

03:30:22.280 that's

03:30:22.700 that's

03:30:23.600 my rule

03:30:24.180 right

03:30:24.620 is that

03:30:25.060 there's so

03:30:25.860 many of

03:30:26.240 these which

03:30:26.620 end up being

03:30:27.060 unfounded

03:30:27.680 the women

03:30:28.420 won't say

03:30:29.000 the name

03:30:29.400 of the

03:30:29.640 person

03:30:30.120 and this

03:30:30.840 is I think

03:30:31.400 the reason

03:30:31.880 that the women

03:30:32.420 won't come

03:30:32.920 forward with

03:30:33.460 the names

03:30:33.840 of these

03:30:34.160 supposed

03:30:34.620 essay

03:30:35.760 assaulters

03:30:36.380 is because

03:30:37.160 then that

03:30:37.640 man

03:30:38.060 would have

03:30:38.720 an opportunity

03:30:39.300 to refute

03:30:40.080 those charges

03:30:40.760 and so they

03:30:41.640 don't want to

03:30:42.100 do that

03:30:42.440 because it

03:30:43.000 would actually

03:30:43.360 be a false

03:30:43.880 allegation

03:30:44.360 so what they

03:30:44.840 do is they

03:30:45.220 say no I

03:30:46.040 had this

03:30:46.440 happen to me

03:30:47.040 and you say

03:30:47.540 and you ask

03:30:48.020 for details

03:30:48.540 you say well

03:30:49.120 where when

03:30:49.840 why how

03:30:50.380 did that

03:30:50.680 happen

03:30:51.000 and suddenly

03:30:51.840 hang on

03:30:52.700 let me finish

03:30:53.300 I'm almost

03:30:53.620 done

03:30:53.840 and then

03:30:54.360 suddenly the

03:30:54.780 details go

03:30:55.300 right out

03:30:55.720 the window

03:30:56.140 and they

03:30:56.880 won't name

03:30:57.480 who these

03:30:57.820 people are

03:30:58.280 they won't

03:30:58.660 tell you that

03:30:59.540 there was a

03:30:59.900 police report

03:31:00.400 they won't

03:31:00.740 say any of

03:31:01.520 those things

03:31:02.080 so I struggle

03:31:03.320 myself to

03:31:04.080 believe that

03:31:06.380 telling the

03:31:06.680 truth about

03:31:07.140 these situations

03:31:07.920 as a man

03:31:09.000 you are more

03:31:09.840 likely to be

03:31:10.860 raped yourself

03:31:12.480 than you are

03:31:13.600 to be wrongfully

03:31:14.820 accused of

03:31:15.480 doing so

03:31:16.000 oh I'm sorry

03:31:17.760 sorry

03:31:18.760 but you are

03:31:21.040 more likely

03:31:21.880 to be assaulted

03:31:22.660 yourself than

03:31:23.580 you are to be

03:31:24.400 wrongfully accused

03:31:25.420 of doing so

03:31:26.120 I don't know

03:31:28.040 if there's

03:31:28.340 no there's

03:31:29.460 the evidence

03:31:30.240 for this is

03:31:30.820 extremely scant

03:31:31.880 in fact

03:31:32.400 so the thing

03:31:33.380 is is that

03:31:34.180 while it is

03:31:35.620 I think I

03:31:36.460 could even

03:31:36.780 grant this

03:31:37.520 and still

03:31:38.020 destroy the

03:31:38.500 argument

03:31:38.880 so even if

03:31:39.820 I granted

03:31:40.300 that that

03:31:40.740 was true

03:31:41.360 then there's

03:31:42.880 still a huge

03:31:44.160 swath of

03:31:44.840 women who

03:31:45.700 will make

03:31:46.100 the claim

03:31:46.640 that they

03:31:46.920 were essayed

03:31:47.460 by men

03:31:48.000 but not

03:31:48.800 give any

03:31:49.340 particulars

03:31:50.080 so there's

03:31:50.460 no way

03:31:50.900 for us

03:31:51.220 to make

03:31:51.560 a determined

03:31:52.200 verification

03:31:53.040 that it's

03:31:53.700 so

03:31:53.820 so I'm

03:31:54.560 not sure

03:31:55.000 that that

03:31:55.440 stat

03:31:55.960 would even

03:31:56.680 be valid

03:31:57.360 where are

03:31:58.040 you coming

03:31:58.460 up with

03:31:58.820 your stat

03:31:59.540 of all

03:31:59.900 these

03:32:00.080 women

03:32:00.300 who are

03:32:00.580 like

03:32:00.800 what's

03:32:02.220 the validity

03:32:02.780 in that

03:32:03.220 you feel

03:32:04.200 that way

03:32:04.780 like what

03:32:06.260 do you want

03:32:08.640 me to repeat

03:32:08.980 what I just

03:32:09.380 said

03:32:09.620 yeah sure

03:32:10.140 yeah so

03:32:11.300 what I said

03:32:11.820 is I'm not

03:32:12.500 sure that

03:32:13.100 we can

03:32:13.820 say that

03:32:14.400 this stat

03:32:14.940 could ever

03:32:15.700 be completely

03:32:16.440 true that

03:32:17.220 you just

03:32:17.540 reference

03:32:18.160 about

03:32:18.680 essay

03:32:20.060 either

03:32:20.760 direction

03:32:21.360 and the

03:32:22.200 reason is

03:32:22.780 is because

03:32:23.400 by your

03:32:24.360 logic

03:32:24.740 there's tons

03:32:25.420 and tons

03:32:25.760 of women

03:32:26.300 right who

03:32:27.320 are essayed

03:32:28.060 but they

03:32:28.720 don't come

03:32:29.160 forward

03:32:29.540 with the

03:32:30.580 fact that

03:32:30.900 they were

03:32:31.120 essayed

03:32:31.620 right

03:32:31.860 so if

03:32:33.680 that is

03:32:34.020 true

03:32:34.260 that

03:32:34.580 is

03:32:35.000 true

03:32:36.100 for me

03:32:37.180 I guess

03:32:37.840 that's my

03:32:38.180 question

03:32:38.620 that guy

03:32:39.140 slingshot

03:32:39.740 donated

03:32:40.300 $199

03:32:42.100 and to

03:32:43.540 go further

03:32:44.060 on what

03:32:44.520 Andrew said

03:32:45.240 those who

03:32:45.940 wait 10

03:32:46.500 or 15

03:32:47.080 years to

03:32:47.720 say something

03:32:48.360 about essay

03:32:49.080 which usually

03:32:49.980 is with a

03:32:50.540 celebrity

03:32:50.960 I think

03:32:51.800 is nothing

03:32:52.220 more than

03:32:52.820 a money

03:32:53.180 grab in

03:32:53.700 most cases

03:32:54.660 I agree

03:32:55.820 in those

03:32:56.260 cases I

03:32:56.780 think it

03:32:57.200 is more

03:32:57.560 likely for

03:32:58.200 false

03:32:58.540 allegations

03:32:58.980 to come

03:32:59.600 but I

03:33:00.520 mean just

03:33:01.160 because a

03:33:01.520 woman doesn't

03:33:01.940 report an

03:33:02.400 assault doesn't

03:33:02.920 mean it

03:33:03.140 didn't happen

03:33:03.620 and I

03:33:03.940 think that's

03:33:04.420 a very

03:33:04.900 dangerous

03:33:05.740 mindset to

03:33:06.340 have to

03:33:06.880 I think

03:33:07.480 it's the

03:33:07.900 least dangerous

03:33:08.540 mindset to

03:33:09.120 have just

03:33:09.400 because there

03:33:09.920 wasn't a

03:33:10.320 police report

03:33:10.800 filed and by

03:33:11.420 the way there's

03:33:11.920 different types

03:33:12.440 of sexual

03:33:12.840 assault that

03:33:13.320 doesn't that

03:33:13.940 isn't our

03:33:14.420 wording there's

03:33:15.420 other things as

03:33:16.480 well no I

03:33:17.300 agree but then

03:33:18.140 when we get into

03:33:18.800 the particulars of

03:33:19.760 those things what

03:33:20.960 we find out is

03:33:21.700 that men often

03:33:22.780 will disregard what

03:33:24.020 women will

03:33:24.480 consider to be

03:33:25.180 essay even

03:33:26.280 though the same

03:33:26.960 exact thing is

03:33:27.520 happening to them

03:33:28.120 in reverse by

03:33:28.800 women that's

03:33:29.520 point one point

03:33:30.820 two is is that

03:33:31.640 if it's not

03:33:32.160 reported then

03:33:32.900 how can we

03:33:33.360 count it as

03:33:34.000 being true we

03:33:35.280 just basically

03:33:35.840 have to take

03:33:36.300 people's words

03:33:36.940 for it there's

03:33:37.880 no real reason

03:33:38.860 that we should

03:33:39.580 do that absent

03:33:40.620 evidence that

03:33:41.420 would be the

03:33:42.040 opposite of how

03:33:43.520 we should conduct

03:33:44.540 any type of

03:33:45.300 study into the

03:33:46.380 essay phenomenon

03:33:47.260 you're not

03:33:49.820 referring to

03:33:50.480 children are you

03:33:51.380 just women

03:33:52.120 yeah I'm talking

03:33:54.000 about women here

03:33:54.800 okay who are

03:33:55.720 adults so when

03:33:57.420 we're talking about

03:33:57.960 adult women this

03:33:59.460 is just my

03:34:00.180 cardinal rule that

03:34:01.080 I have is that

03:34:02.280 tons and tons of

03:34:03.480 women who I've

03:34:04.180 talked to have

03:34:05.320 these essay stories

03:34:06.440 but however when

03:34:07.780 pressed for

03:34:08.220 particulars suddenly

03:34:09.620 the story completely

03:34:10.720 falls apart most

03:34:12.120 notably the fact

03:34:13.020 that they won't

03:34:13.460 name the men who

03:34:14.560 supposedly did this

03:34:15.680 to them interestingly

03:34:16.920 enough I think that

03:34:18.100 the reason the logical

03:34:19.140 reason that I came

03:34:20.200 to for why they do

03:34:20.960 not it's because if

03:34:22.000 they named that man

03:34:23.000 you'd find out that

03:34:24.040 he was in Kentucky

03:34:24.820 while she was in

03:34:25.620 Wyoming and she

03:34:26.360 was full of shit

03:34:27.100 that's my personal

03:34:28.540 feeling on the

03:34:29.620 thing

03:34:29.880 can I say one

03:34:31.400 thing so I guess

03:34:35.980 the biggest thing

03:34:36.880 is that I don't

03:34:38.060 have the numbers

03:34:38.920 and it would be

03:34:40.000 hard to find

03:34:41.160 proper numbers on

03:34:41.920 this anyway but a

03:34:43.780 lot of now women

03:34:45.700 were sexually

03:34:46.820 assaulted when they

03:34:47.700 were children and

03:34:49.060 that's when it took

03:34:49.940 place if we're

03:34:50.780 talking about

03:34:51.480 children we're not

03:34:53.460 talking about

03:34:54.320 that's child abuse

03:34:58.200 I mean that's a

03:34:58.740 different conversation

03:34:59.940 so in this

03:35:00.480 particular case we

03:35:02.480 can leave that to

03:35:03.180 the side right I'm

03:35:04.680 talking about women

03:35:06.360 who are making the

03:35:08.620 claims of being as

03:35:09.580 adults we're being

03:35:11.800 hyper specific here

03:35:12.980 we're not talking

03:35:13.640 about the cases of

03:35:15.240 children though I'd

03:35:16.160 be happy to get into

03:35:16.900 it we're not going

03:35:17.400 to because it's

03:35:18.080 YouTube and it's

03:35:18.700 TOS I'm talking

03:35:19.560 specifically about

03:35:20.320 adult women so

03:35:21.860 this is from my

03:35:24.720 perspective if I

03:35:25.680 look at this

03:35:26.100 logically if

03:35:26.940 somebody makes an

03:35:28.180 accusation says

03:35:29.000 such thing happen

03:35:30.040 to me but there's

03:35:30.580 no evidence for

03:35:31.580 it that would be

03:35:33.480 a secularist would

03:35:34.400 never for instance

03:35:35.340 accept that from a

03:35:36.120 Christian saying oh

03:35:37.220 God talk to me but

03:35:38.180 I can't prove it and

03:35:39.320 I can't demonstrate

03:35:40.060 it and I can't

03:35:40.760 show it so why is

03:35:42.400 it in the world

03:35:43.000 should we accept

03:35:44.860 the counter from

03:35:45.760 women that they

03:35:46.760 make these bold

03:35:47.460 claims that this

03:35:49.060 you know this and

03:35:50.160 that happened to

03:35:50.900 them absent any

03:35:52.180 evidence that it

03:35:53.720 did I'm probably

03:35:55.200 gonna get a lot of

03:35:55.740 woman hate from

03:35:56.360 this but I actually

03:35:57.860 agree with Andrew

03:35:58.880 100% at least 95%

03:36:01.200 because I personally

03:36:03.200 do know a lot of

03:36:04.140 women who have made

03:36:05.320 these claims just

03:36:06.180 because they regret

03:36:07.380 it afterwards and

03:36:09.000 I'm like it's be

03:36:09.860 almost become like

03:36:10.620 this fucked up trend

03:36:12.040 just like people think

03:36:12.860 it's cool now to have

03:36:13.600 like some type of

03:36:14.160 mental disorder where

03:36:15.440 it's like oh like I'm

03:36:16.580 I'm a victim like it's

03:36:18.060 cool to be a victim

03:36:18.920 and that pisses me off

03:36:20.700 I'm gonna be honest

03:36:21.520 yeah well it should

03:36:22.860 and the truth is is

03:36:24.500 that if you follow

03:36:25.440 behavior and voting

03:36:26.740 by women and you

03:36:27.780 follow trends and

03:36:28.600 buying by women you

03:36:30.020 will note that peer

03:36:31.560 pressure even towards

03:36:32.900 things which are not

03:36:34.900 considered to be great

03:36:36.100 if it brings women

03:36:37.320 attention they will

03:36:38.620 follow trends which

03:36:40.280 are not even good for

03:36:41.280 them to follow

03:36:41.900 agreed this now men

03:36:43.520 do this too I'm not

03:36:44.540 being biased here than

03:36:46.140 saying it's only women

03:36:46.980 I'm just saying that

03:36:47.600 women are more prone to

03:36:48.740 that that's why

03:36:49.360 propaganda works so

03:36:50.380 well on them that's

03:36:52.200 how they were able to

03:36:52.880 get an entire generation

03:36:54.640 of women to begin

03:36:55.440 smoking was because

03:36:56.500 they were so susceptible

03:36:57.380 to that propaganda so

03:36:58.720 I would actually have to

03:37:00.840 agree with you as well

03:37:01.820 that as I look at this

03:37:03.760 it's hard for me to

03:37:04.780 believe that that the

03:37:07.320 kind of rampant stats on

03:37:09.980 on what is considered

03:37:11.180 SA or anything short of

03:37:13.660 you know lies essentially

03:37:16.460 absent proof and Andrew I'm

03:37:18.340 sure you could agree

03:37:18.900 with me on this I think

03:37:19.880 we we both think here

03:37:21.380 that SA is an absolutely

03:37:24.080 terrible thing awful

03:37:25.920 thing yeah awful thing

03:37:27.380 put him against the wall

03:37:28.180 and yeah yeah I do think

03:37:30.660 though that there is a

03:37:32.380 but that's why the burden

03:37:33.320 of proof should be so

03:37:34.140 high the burden of proof

03:37:35.200 should be so high because

03:37:36.260 the punishment should be

03:37:37.440 so overwhelming so the

03:37:39.400 punishment for something

03:37:41.140 like this should be

03:37:42.060 overwhelming towards a man

03:37:44.400 who conducts this and

03:37:45.680 that's why we should be

03:37:47.140 very careful about the

03:37:48.440 particulars of how justice

03:37:49.980 is served up here and we

03:37:51.560 should have evidence for

03:37:52.720 this so that we can

03:37:54.280 definitely put these

03:37:55.300 people where they belong

03:37:56.760 which is in prison for

03:37:57.800 life yeah and and they

03:37:59.480 have done I mean they

03:38:00.680 have looked at an

03:38:01.640 analysis I mean comparing

03:38:03.420 this to other crimes and

03:38:05.520 what they found to be

03:38:06.580 provably false where the

03:38:08.700 woman either recanted the

03:38:10.000 story and there was proof

03:38:11.940 that he wasn't he was

03:38:13.200 somewhere else or you know

03:38:14.740 or you know she I think

03:38:16.160 I already said she

03:38:16.880 recanted it or she proved

03:38:18.660 that she was lying in

03:38:21.300 comparison to other kinds

03:38:22.620 of crime reports the rate

03:38:24.560 I think is 2x or even 3x the

03:38:27.400 rate of like false

03:38:28.240 accusations of other kinds

03:38:29.380 of crimes and then I

03:38:31.300 specifically actually want

03:38:32.320 to point out something that

03:38:33.260 happens to minority men at

03:38:35.300 even further disproportionate

03:38:37.440 rates I don't know if you

03:38:38.100 know the case of Emmett

03:38:39.460 Till the boy who was falsely

03:38:41.320 accused by a white woman

03:38:42.680 back in the I believe it

03:38:44.440 was in the 50s or and they

03:38:46.960 lynched him okay well wait

03:38:48.260 wait okay well I'll just be

03:38:50.240 quiet there oh we're not

03:38:52.260 exactly sure that it was

03:38:53.960 there's there's it I've

03:38:55.580 heard I've heard it

03:38:56.400 conflicted as to well my

03:38:58.880 understanding on her my

03:39:00.320 understanding on her deathbed

03:39:03.220 this woman on her deathbed

03:39:05.360 the woman who accused it

03:39:06.960 recanted and said that she

03:39:08.860 made it up at least that's my

03:39:10.800 that's the research that I

03:39:11.940 did I remember reading

03:39:12.760 that too well maybe and like

03:39:13.920 I mean I could be wrong

03:39:14.780 there I just I don't want

03:39:16.660 to throw throw shade at

03:39:18.980 anybody unless unless I know

03:39:20.600 for sure that it's true so

03:39:21.900 if my research serves me

03:39:23.800 correct I do believe that

03:39:24.980 she on her she later in her

03:39:28.140 life she said I either

03:39:31.180 embellished I exaggerated or

03:39:33.220 I just made the whole thing

03:39:34.680 up but what happened to

03:39:36.900 Emmett Till this young black

03:39:38.780 boy this he apparently

03:39:42.240 flirted said something you

03:39:44.200 know lascivious to a white

03:39:46.940 woman and her family or

03:39:48.940 friends whatever I don't know

03:39:49.860 the exact details lynched him

03:39:51.340 killed him and so false

03:39:53.580 accusations happen all the

03:39:54.760 time and they actually

03:39:55.500 specifically tend to

03:39:57.200 negatively she was jealous of

03:39:58.940 some someone else I don't know

03:40:00.700 I don't know yeah he had but

03:40:02.280 this actually happens at higher

03:40:04.220 rates to typically when you see

03:40:05.900 white woman black man it

03:40:08.180 happens at a much higher

03:40:09.300 frequency it happens Patrice

03:40:11.740 O'Neill rest in peace happens

03:40:14.920 to frequently black men because

03:40:16.540 there's an added level at least

03:40:18.480 for some of these white women

03:40:19.940 who for example have

03:40:22.560 consent consensual sex with them

03:40:25.320 and then they regret it for you

03:40:27.760 know you know there's perhaps

03:40:29.960 racist reasons for it but

03:40:32.900 but there's a lot there's a

03:40:34.600 component of regret here they

03:40:36.720 regret it like if you hook up

03:40:39.040 somebody consensually and you

03:40:40.260 later regret it that's not SA

03:40:42.580 but no but you can see this we

03:40:46.300 can also see this same trend

03:40:47.940 happen with the lies of

03:40:49.620 paternity which is far more

03:40:52.020 prevalent than previously was

03:40:53.920 understood with DNA testing so now

03:40:56.780 we know that the amount of

03:40:58.240 paternity fraud is I mean in some

03:41:01.180 cases it's been estimated as

03:41:02.980 high as 20 percent I think that

03:41:04.620 that might be a wildly high

03:41:06.160 estimate to be honest with you

03:41:07.520 and I think that the evidence for

03:41:09.480 that is somewhat scant but it's

03:41:11.980 definitely more prevalent than we

03:41:13.140 thought it was there's no doubt

03:41:14.700 that that's true we're not saying

03:41:16.020 that SA against women may not be

03:41:18.180 prevalent from men it probably is

03:41:20.460 we're just disputing as to whether

03:41:22.260 or not the justification for why

03:41:25.440 you should not be around men based

03:41:28.100 on these kind of wildly inflated

03:41:29.720 numbers is justified that's the

03:41:31.640 point we're making what if we talk

03:41:32.800 about biology and the fact that men

03:41:35.140 are a lot stronger than women and

03:41:36.800 so I would let's say like if I had

03:41:39.040 to choose obviously to fight a

03:41:40.320 woman or a man I'm going to choose

03:41:41.480 the woman because I wouldn't be

03:41:42.980 able to protect myself against a man

03:41:45.040 that wanted to harm yeah sure sure

03:41:47.100 but nobody would dispute that this

03:41:49.020 is why the question was about a

03:41:50.560 bear or a man bear well it's just a

03:41:52.060 factor much but a bear is obviously

03:41:53.900 much stronger than a man right I

03:41:55.920 said much stronger yeah yeah but

03:41:58.520 that's but but we weren't making the

03:42:00.420 comparison as to whether or not men

03:42:03.120 are stronger than women obviously

03:42:04.360 that's true generally speaking that's

03:42:06.380 that's true even weaker men are

03:42:09.260 stronger than even strong women in

03:42:12.220 many cases so I mean we wouldn't

03:42:13.980 dispute this but that would not lead

03:42:16.520 to the conclusion that that means that

03:42:19.620 the prevalence of SA as advertised is as

03:42:22.600 high as it's advertised I don't know

03:42:25.780 back to back to the bear thing though I

03:42:27.540 feel like I don't want anything to do

03:42:29.480 with that if women were truly this

03:42:31.680 scared of men as they love to pretend

03:42:34.160 they are like they there wouldn't be

03:42:36.820 such rampant casual sex occurring it

03:42:40.300 wouldn't be getting drunk around men

03:42:41.980 partying being alone with men having

03:42:44.860 male friends all this stuff so I don't

03:42:48.640 know it seems like logic would dictate

03:42:50.200 that a man would be safer than bear but

03:42:52.380 it's sad to say but honestly like you're

03:42:56.520 far more likely to be you know assaulted

03:42:58.480 by someone you know than when you don't

03:43:00.480 know like a strange man that's a good

03:43:01.960 point yeah that's a good point it's like

03:43:04.760 well yeah I agree that the but the

03:43:06.980 predatory behavior in that regard works

03:43:08.840 both ways for instance I have the data

03:43:12.300 here as well when you're talking about

03:43:14.240 for instance women who are in positions

03:43:16.480 of authority over men which would include

03:43:18.380 minors inside of prison where there's

03:43:20.500 female prison guards the essay skyrockets

03:43:22.740 in comparison to the other way the same

03:43:25.220 thing happens when you're talking about

03:43:26.960 teachers for instance even when you're

03:43:28.940 talking about clergy while it's true

03:43:30.320 that more men conduct these things as a

03:43:32.860 percentage of how many are in these

03:43:34.340 positions women conduct them against men

03:43:36.440 far more which is interesting so I'm not

03:43:38.980 so willing to just say that this is a

03:43:41.340 problem which comes from men and only men

03:43:43.880 I'm not saying it is why do you think it

03:43:45.540 is that it's more prevalent for women or

03:43:49.780 like let's say teachers to prey on male

03:43:52.680 students I'm just wondering this is an

03:43:57.120 interesting question I'm not so sure I'm

03:44:00.060 not so sure that anybody knows exactly

03:44:02.440 why but I think it's due to the fact of

03:44:05.460 basically being able to manipulate and

03:44:08.340 gain attention but it's it's hard to say

03:44:12.100 this is a phenomenon which may have been

03:44:14.720 going on for a long time just kind of

03:44:16.380 unrecognized because again when we're

03:44:19.480 talking about essay this is one of my

03:44:20.900 points when I say that men often will

03:44:22.540 disregard things that women would

03:44:24.020 consider essay there's a lot and this is

03:44:27.220 the truth no nobody's gonna like to hear

03:44:29.220 this but there are young men probably who

03:44:31.540 are 16 17 years old who bang their

03:44:33.440 teacher and aren't upset about it right

03:44:35.600 that's probably just true that's so

03:44:38.940 like that's not okay for those men that's

03:44:41.380 not that's okay they were a hundred

03:44:43.340 percent no I'm not disputing that I'm

03:44:46.820 not disputing that it is I'm saying that

03:44:49.020 the way that it would be perceived by a

03:44:50.940 male versus how it's perceived by women

03:44:52.640 are different and that's why I'm saying

03:44:54.120 that we can't hold the dualistic

03:44:55.940 standards when it comes to this I agree

03:44:58.320 with you see what I'm saying so I mean I

03:44:59.880 don't disagree with you it's absolutely

03:45:01.560 essay I mean and they're underage

03:45:04.060 everything else it's horrible is it

03:45:05.520 because I got to move it on perception

03:45:09.400 I got to move it on we have five chats

03:45:12.720 we have to get through we have anonymous

03:45:14.280 can you read it Natalia okay same

03:45:16.300 question but instead that we already

03:45:17.780 read this one we did this woman oh my

03:45:20.080 bad hold on I'll pull up another one

03:45:22.500 one sec guys all right is it coming

03:45:28.260 through no okay well while we wait guys

03:45:30.440 go to twitch.tv slash whatever twitch.tv

03:45:33.060 slash whatever

03:45:33.980 jobs follow oh no no never mind can you

03:45:38.320 read it things to do in the woods

03:45:40.040 fishing picking mushrooms chopping trees

03:45:42.240 fighting fires hiking camping dressing a

03:45:45.320 bear in a costume and going hunting

03:45:46.960 lone females got it

03:45:48.500 sounds like a crazy weekend

03:45:51.240 well put kill up cereal we have big

03:45:55.140 sarge thank you man Brian would

03:45:58.140 intervene by popping a champagne cap in

03:46:00.640 the bear's ass oh Nick better be there

03:46:03.140 his back yeah I had that last one I don't

03:46:07.420 know I think that one was has been in the

03:46:08.940 refrigerator for a minute maybe that was

03:46:10.360 the problem we have David Treziak coming

03:46:13.820 in here in just a sec thank you man thank

03:46:15.760 you David a bi bear with STDs or a

03:46:20.000 grizzly or a murder hornet's nest or a

03:46:24.020 strange mountain man isolated from society

03:46:26.400 squeaky toy Barbie that's me okay that's

03:46:32.560 you okay sweet Brian to pick a bear for the

03:46:37.480 debate is sweet Brian to pick she'd pick a

03:46:40.480 man what sweet Brian to pick a bear pick a

03:46:45.220 bear for the debate okay she'd pick a man

03:46:48.540 okay by so do you guys would you so a bisexual

03:46:54.040 bear with STDs or grizzly wait oh the the bear

03:47:00.560 bears by right I know but we'll keep a bear in

03:47:03.820 quotes so that's like a man so you got to tell

03:47:06.760 her to speak into talking about like the gay men we

03:47:09.040 were talking about earlier that are yeah you're

03:47:10.220 talking about when you say when he said he

03:47:11.480 said bisexual so they're also interested in

03:47:13.220 women that's what you remember oh but he's referring to

03:47:16.020 a human not an actual yes okay okay just making

03:47:18.400 sure I'm understanding that correct all

03:47:19.960 right thank you David would you guys

03:47:21.360 rather be on the whatever podcast with

03:47:23.820 men you don't know or a bear I want to be on

03:47:29.700 a podcast with a bear that'd be quite

03:47:31.460 interesting you'd rather be on it with a

03:47:33.260 bear

03:47:33.520 that was scarier than a bear

03:47:43.880 okay okay we have Nickelodeon

03:47:53.520 perpetrators of SA 59% were acquaintances 34% were

03:48:02.340 family members and 7% were strangers why do

03:48:05.540 you expect saving and expect saving in the

03:48:08.460 city but assume that men will join in the

03:48:10.420 assault in the woods yeah right to extrapolate

03:48:13.360 on this he's saying also acquaintances the

03:48:15.560 reason the reason that we know this is

03:48:17.860 because that 7% by strangers are reported

03:48:21.400 and there's evidence and things like this

03:48:23.100 that's why we're able to get those numbers so

03:48:25.220 firmed up whereas these other ones are often

03:48:28.700 anecdotal and things like this so it's it's

03:48:31.800 an astute observation from that chatter

03:48:33.680 all right also what happened to the British

03:48:38.220 the British oh I forgot I miss it I miss it

03:48:41.720 all right guys go to twitch.tv slash

03:48:44.800 whatever drops to follow drops a prime sub if

03:48:47.260 you have one twitch.tv slash whatever drops

03:48:50.220 following the prime sub if you have one thank

03:48:51.960 you guys we are going to pull up stifler

03:48:57.100 really quick stifler ask everyone to rate

03:48:59.460 their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 start with

03:49:02.960 you and we'll go around the table go ahead my

03:49:04.680 own looks yeah your own looks on the scale

03:49:06.980 of 1 to 10 6.9

03:49:09.880 don't do that what about you

03:49:21.580 um I think on a good day

03:49:24.400 8 or 9 on a bad day like a 3

03:49:27.420 AB check thanks for the gift of 20

03:49:29.180 memberships sorry repeat repeat like on a

03:49:31.220 good day like an 8 or 9 but on a bad day

03:49:32.920 like a 3 what are you right now

03:49:35.120 I'm gonna say a 7 today okay

03:49:37.440 10 10 okay can you scoot your mic to the

03:49:42.180 edge of the table please

03:49:43.020 7

03:49:43.860 uh I'm a 7 today

03:49:48.320 I'd say 5.5

03:49:51.440 7 8

03:49:54.000 okay we'll come back to

03:49:56.460 killer of cereal donated $200

03:49:58.680 women don't want to run into a man

03:50:01.500 currently hiding a body in the woods

03:50:03.580 but would only want to be in the woods

03:50:05.520 with a care bear got it would you get

03:50:08.240 into a zoo enclosure full of bears or men

03:50:10.860 that's a good yeah yeah that's a good

03:50:14.760 one okay going around the table

03:50:15.940 uh would you rather get into a zoo

03:50:18.360 enclosure full of bears or men

03:50:19.820 men men men I assume there would be

03:50:24.100 people there at a zoo so men

03:50:25.540 oh okay

03:50:27.100 men

03:50:27.540 oh me uh almost always gonna be man

03:50:32.420 okay

03:50:32.720 yeah

03:50:33.280 sweet thank you kill of cereal

03:50:35.820 appreciate it

03:50:36.680 it's a good argument

03:50:37.700 um so unfortunately the thing is is

03:50:41.020 that the table is not really leaning

03:50:43.720 very much towards bear to begin with

03:50:45.580 I think these would be much more

03:50:47.300 compelling arguments if there was

03:50:48.620 actually a bit more of a majority on

03:50:50.420 the bear side of this uh argument so

03:50:54.540 like the last show we could yes

03:50:56.940 so uh yeah um let's see here where

03:51:01.340 were we oh the rating thing so you're

03:51:02.820 you're a 10

03:51:03.380 yeah I explained this last time

03:51:06.080 what was the explanation on so

03:51:08.260 because I make my living off my

03:51:10.080 looks as long as I'm making my this

03:51:12.280 is kind of how in my mind I relate to

03:51:14.800 my own physical appearance and

03:51:17.700 attractiveness um to enough people I'm

03:51:20.800 a 10 out of 10 that I'm making

03:51:22.900 plenty of money so you know and

03:51:26.000 beauty is in the eye of the whole

03:51:26.600 how do you know that you're a 10 out of

03:51:27.700 10 for them

03:51:28.440 because they tell me all the time my

03:51:30.480 fans freaking love me

03:51:31.780 aren't they couldn't they just be

03:51:34.420 trying to flatter you

03:51:35.240 I guess I mean they can be rude to me

03:51:38.100 too I'll still you know do my thing

03:51:40.360 okay what if they were rude to you and

03:51:45.920 didn't send you money

03:51:46.720 well then they'll they'll get black

03:51:48.980 then they're not a fan right they're a

03:51:51.180 troll

03:51:51.700 is there anything about your looks that

03:51:54.660 you would change

03:51:55.260 hang on we didn't even answer the

03:51:57.940 question

03:51:58.400 what I didn't answer it oh you didn't

03:52:01.640 answer it

03:52:02.000 no we didn't answer it oh I'm just

03:52:03.920 gonna I mean we can but I give myself

03:52:06.280 five go ahead Andrew would I change

03:52:08.160 anything about myself okay so well

03:52:11.220 hang on hang on calm down now it's

03:52:13.320 my turn so I'm gonna you know what

03:52:15.060 I'll answer this I'm gonna try to use

03:52:16.660 your voice to answer this

03:52:17.660 ready I'm ready

03:52:18.940 hi everybody how do I think that I'm a

03:52:22.440 four huh I think it's great that I'm a

03:52:24.900 four I don't even take steroids or shave my

03:52:27.480 arms huh

03:52:28.060 sounds like Elmo

03:52:29.160 that was good

03:52:30.620 10 out of 10 impression

03:52:32.640 if you ever need a new job you would

03:52:34.480 be perfect for Disneyland

03:52:35.700 can can you actually try to like have

03:52:40.180 can you try to speak normally like

03:52:42.180 how's that sound can we hear that

03:52:43.600 um well this is how I speak no but

03:52:45.260 like try to like adjust your voice so

03:52:47.440 like for example I could go high pitch

03:52:49.260 I could go low pitch so I think up

03:52:51.180 uh lower the pitch a bit uh okay hold

03:52:54.360 on let me kind of like get into it

03:52:56.220 it's really hard for me to talk low I

03:53:00.400 guess this is kind of as low as I can

03:53:01.840 talk and it's it's uncomfortable you

03:53:03.720 can probably hear my voice is like

03:53:04.960 that sounds more beautiful no this is

03:53:07.880 like not I feel like it sounds like

03:53:09.380 she's almost whispering a little bit

03:53:11.020 it sounds the same

03:53:11.840 okay I feel a lot more comfortable

03:53:14.160 your voice is cute

03:53:14.400 a lot more like support behind my voice

03:53:16.260 question for you

03:53:17.000 uh do you think you'll be better

03:53:19.400 looking in 10 years

03:53:20.300 than you do now

03:53:22.500 um to some people I will be and to

03:53:27.740 some people I won't be

03:53:28.660 I think to myself I will be I think

03:53:33.060 like all things being equal do you

03:53:34.900 think you'll be more physically

03:53:36.580 attractive in 10 years

03:53:37.660 to myself possibly yeah I think you

03:53:41.680 know like

03:53:42.300 even with the whole aging thing yeah

03:53:44.940 well I'll be I'll be 34

03:53:47.000 aging I mean I'll obviously be a

03:53:51.500 decade older when I'm 44 I'm gonna be a

03:53:54.880 hot-ass milf it's gonna be awesome

03:53:56.700 I took some milf okay so you're gonna

03:54:01.920 have babies oh I'll be a milf in spirit

03:54:04.860 okay I don't even want to

03:54:10.640 a little delusional a little delusional

03:54:14.840 I'll wear that like a badge of honor

03:54:16.540 okay all right all right well you can't

03:54:20.660 fix them all right

03:54:21.420 all right uh did we go to twitch did we

03:54:25.600 go to twitch okay let's get into some of

03:54:28.460 the pre-show notes here we gotta get into

03:54:30.280 oh wait actually you know what yeah I'm

03:54:32.840 gonna drop it all right guys we're gonna

03:54:34.940 we're getting into the semi-chaos

03:54:36.760 section of the show here in just a

03:54:39.160 moment in a few moments not until I

03:54:44.040 really tell you we're gonna be lowering

03:54:45.560 the TTS to 69 it's gonna be absolute

03:54:48.680 fucking chaos so hold on boys

03:54:52.480 all right it should be boom I'm gonna

03:54:59.040 hide that and then boom all right boys

03:55:02.680 if you want TTS has been lowered 69

03:55:07.560 TTS rest of the show any does anybody here

03:55:12.520 have any disagreements with either maybe

03:55:14.480 you've seen the show maybe you've seen

03:55:16.620 Andrew clips from Andrew any

03:55:18.520 disagreements with either Andrew or

03:55:20.240 myself on on any topics you've maybe

03:55:22.200 heard for those of you who've seen the

03:55:23.780 show

03:55:24.020 um I think I've heard you say that um

03:55:31.160 you that abortion you're okay with

03:55:33.420 abortion um you're okay with abortion if

03:55:37.020 under the circumstances of someone's been

03:55:39.560 essayed I don't agree with I don't even

03:55:41.840 hold on hold on I don't think I've

03:55:44.700 actually even really made that argument

03:55:46.640 I think have I I don't think I've ever

03:55:50.480 even made that no no he's so so to

03:55:53.740 clarify this point he is granted the

03:55:56.280 argument that even if true for the

03:55:58.960 purpose of moving the conversation

03:56:00.340 forward because most abortions do not

03:56:03.460 occur as a result of essay almost none

03:56:06.040 of them do in fact so I've heard Brian

03:56:08.860 grant the argument but I've never heard

03:56:11.520 him actually state that as one of his

03:56:13.020 positions wait so you want to you're

03:56:16.560 not in favor of that in the event of an

03:56:19.400 essay no oh okay well I'm not really

03:56:23.140 inclined to have an abortion argument

03:56:26.200 right now but I've not I've not actually

03:56:28.280 said that any other disagreements though

03:56:31.040 from anybody you're looking at me like

03:56:34.860 I'm so disagreeable I don't know I

03:56:37.040 haven't watched enough the show I'm sorry

03:56:38.980 don't know come on Demi Demi is it Demi or

03:56:42.920 Demi Demi Demi but you can call me

03:56:46.760 whatever you want

03:56:47.920 okay that was interesting what's that

03:57:03.660 what um you do a lot of the you said

03:57:06.540 you've been single for four months and

03:57:07.780 this is like the longest period of time

03:57:09.120 you've been single yeah do you think

03:57:10.420 there's any correlation with like you

03:57:11.940 doing all this like the ahi gal the

03:57:14.880 ahi gal ahi gal ahi gal yeah to do with

03:57:21.040 my dating life do you want me to do it

03:57:23.520 right now question is

03:57:24.540 oh you don't gotta do oh I thought that's

03:57:30.580 what you were telling me to tell me to do

03:57:32.480 oh I'm sorry it's in the thumbnail

03:57:34.360 it's in my mouth gross

03:57:35.540 ahi you're spitting out of your mouth

03:57:38.580 moron does that have to do with you said I

03:57:40.320 can call you whatever you want that's

03:57:41.640 fucking disgusting you guys are offended

03:57:43.300 that she just did that but you put it in

03:57:44.740 the thumbnail no I'm not offended I don't

03:57:47.020 give a fuck no I'm offended oh I'm so

03:57:49.980 sorry and I didn't deeply hurt wait I have a

03:57:52.800 question I have a question go ahead why

03:57:54.900 are there two different pictures of me

03:57:56.680 in the thumbnail that look completely

03:57:58.720 different like one of them is when I

03:58:00.820 like photoshopped my face like to out of

03:58:03.660 proportion five years ago and then one

03:58:05.700 of them is more current I was just

03:58:06.840 confused did someone think they were

03:58:08.060 two different you had good photos because

03:58:09.400 I wouldn't blame you I wouldn't blame

03:58:11.920 you if you thought it was two different

03:58:13.240 girls I don't even recognize one of

03:58:15.220 them I've known her like I just wanted

03:58:17.280 to yeah we did a deep dive we did the

03:58:19.920 deep dive into the Instagram yeah shit

03:58:21.760 gotta go far down to find the good

03:58:23.880 photos you know what I mean it's a very

03:58:26.000 scary photo of me what the one with the

03:58:28.020 beanie yeah that's a good photo

03:58:29.840 honestly I gotta be honest I'm partial to

03:58:36.120 the dark hair I think the dark hair is a

03:58:38.400 good look thanks but we're well as I

03:58:42.240 confused you said you had like a glow up

03:58:44.960 right yeah but come on I mean you were

03:58:47.420 always glowed up you're always glowing

03:58:50.420 someone farted Nick they're just I was

03:58:53.480 posting something in the chat and Nick

03:58:54.980 just wrote also wrote someone farted at

03:58:56.960 the same time was it is it a smell

03:59:00.680 free arrow underscore in underscore

03:59:03.060 Britain donated $69 menna menna to do

03:59:07.040 you know what this is actually a really good quality in a woman a really good quality in a woman a woman who's easily amused great quality great quality great quality great quality to have in a woman okay amused in what way though cuz like I just thought that was funny I'm not easily impressed I thought it's like that's different right

03:59:22.040 it's like full-blown full-blown laughter over the most like pretty tame

03:59:39.600 that that's finally understood me no it's good sense of humor maybe since an only child

03:59:44.660 do you be do you be do you be

03:59:49.080 Nicole never donated $69 first-time donating oh love your podcast thank you

03:59:56.340 indeedrew keeping it real nice to see him on the pot

04:00:00.600 We TW, I would bow for Brian all day, every day.

04:00:04.840 Hey, thank you, Nicole Nava, for supporting whatever we appreciated.

04:00:10.940 Thank you.

04:00:11.800 I like your name, Nicole.

04:00:13.240 Appreciate it.

04:00:15.080 So really quick, actually, I want to maybe let's do the bow.

04:00:20.560 Ladies, would you bow for let me show you the video first,

04:00:24.880 then we'll see where you guys are at.

04:00:26.700 All right, let's see this.

04:00:32.360 This is like ideal.

04:00:34.580 Boom.

04:00:35.600 Did you guys see the fucking technique on that shit?

04:00:37.520 What did you pick up?

04:00:38.080 God damn, she's well-practiced.

04:00:39.540 A sock.

04:00:40.540 She's got, I think it was a shoe.

04:00:44.020 And look, she's getting the dirty laundry.

04:00:46.760 The dinner is ready.

04:00:48.640 I'm coming home to my penthouse apartment.

04:00:50.640 Is this a movie?

04:00:51.260 Yeah, look at this apartment.

04:00:51.980 After a long day at the podcast, she's got my noodles ready.

04:00:58.460 I don't like the tomatoes.

04:00:59.900 I had to, you know, I had to rebuke her for the fucking tomatoes.

04:01:05.280 What are those?

04:01:05.720 Are those even tomatoes?

04:01:06.640 I don't know.

04:01:07.160 One more time.

04:01:07.940 Look at this bow.

04:01:09.020 Boom.

04:01:09.720 Look at the depth.

04:01:11.080 Holy shit, she's on fire.

04:01:12.820 It's almost a full night.

04:01:13.660 She is on fire.

04:01:14.720 So, going around the table, would you bow for your boyfriend, husband, whatever?

04:01:24.140 If I lived in a country where bowing was traditionally...

04:01:27.060 No, no, no, no, no, no.

04:01:27.920 You're in Alabama.

04:01:29.660 Okay, no.

04:01:30.660 You're in the deep south and your boyfriend, who's never even watched anime before, he's

04:01:35.340 like Natalia.

04:01:36.060 Yeah, but you realize that's a sign of respect in Japan to bow.

04:01:39.800 It's also a sign of respect in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, my dear.

04:01:43.240 So, here's what's going to happen to Talia.

04:01:45.040 But, I mean, what about submission?

04:01:47.160 Don't you bow your head to God?

04:01:50.420 Precisely.

04:01:50.880 That's a good point.

04:01:52.040 Now, you're in Tuscaloosa.

04:01:52.820 And aren't you supposed to, if you're submitting, submit unto your husband as you do unto the

04:01:59.560 Lord, and do you not bow your head when you pray?

04:02:02.480 I guess that's a good point.

04:02:03.840 I mean...

04:02:04.220 So, then you would bow?

04:02:06.860 It doesn't matter to me either way.

04:02:08.340 So, yeah, me bowing doesn't make me feel lesser than my husband.

04:02:13.940 If it's a sign of respect.

04:02:15.260 Hit them with a bow.

04:02:16.740 After...

04:02:16.940 Is he...

04:02:17.760 You should go...

04:02:19.260 Listen, I curtsy.

04:02:20.980 Listen, I can do it all.

04:02:22.220 Can you show us a curtsy right now?

04:02:23.560 Let me see your technique.

04:02:25.140 Let's see this.

04:02:25.760 Hold that imaginary skirt up.

04:02:27.100 Oh, yeah.

04:02:28.940 Oh, wow, you are tall.

04:02:29.640 Wait, where's she going?

04:02:30.320 She's going to the middle.

04:02:31.140 Wait, oh.

04:02:32.300 There it is.

04:02:33.240 Oh, wow.

04:02:33.760 Very nice.

04:02:34.340 That was very graceful.

04:02:39.420 She actually came in with a ukulele.

04:02:43.020 She's gone.

04:02:44.080 She's going to do a bow to her husband.

04:02:48.240 Okay, what about you?

04:02:49.260 Would you bow to your...

04:02:50.500 She's coming back.

04:02:51.180 Don't worry, guys.

04:02:53.360 Would you bow?

04:02:54.340 If it was that meaningful to him, yeah.

04:02:56.620 But I do think there's other more...

04:02:58.780 There's other ways that I could show respect.

04:03:00.340 Can you tell us your boyfriend's name?

04:03:02.300 His name's Will.

04:03:03.540 Yo, Will.

04:03:03.960 What's up, dude?

04:03:04.820 You're watching this shit?

04:03:06.260 Listen, bro.

04:03:07.220 You got a submissive girlfriend right here.

04:03:08.920 You got to ask her for a bow, man.

04:03:10.440 You're...

04:03:11.360 Ask for a bow.

04:03:12.840 I'm just saying.

04:03:13.700 Try...

04:03:14.060 Give it a shot.

04:03:15.220 Try it out.

04:03:15.740 Okay.

04:03:16.320 So, you would do it.

04:03:17.380 Like, if it was coming from a sincere place and it was that meaningful to him, then yeah.

04:03:22.000 But I also think that there's other additional ways to show respect.

04:03:25.140 Various crazy people donated $69.

04:03:28.800 I'd call her loud, annoying, insufferable, figure like a 12-year-old boy.

04:03:35.300 No one would essay her in the woods.

04:03:38.020 Same.

04:03:40.100 Hello.

04:03:40.520 Thank you, various crazy people.

04:03:42.620 Is that at me?

04:03:43.240 Crazy people.

04:03:44.740 Sorry.

04:03:52.920 Andrew Tate just joined the panel.

04:03:55.160 Wow.

04:03:56.720 Okay.

04:03:57.680 No response?

04:03:58.520 Okay, cool.

04:03:59.120 So, would you bow?

04:04:01.360 To your...

04:04:02.560 I'm going to say something vulgar.

04:04:04.700 You wouldn't bow?

04:04:05.420 There's only one position I would bow my head.

04:04:07.500 That's fucking disgusting.

04:04:12.280 Just kidding.

04:04:13.780 Oh.

04:04:15.220 David Tersiak donated $100.

04:04:17.480 Tersiak.

04:04:18.500 Get it right.

04:04:19.240 TTS guy.

04:04:20.020 Intensive care bear or man in a haunted house.

04:04:23.340 Or Charmin oiled paper bear or man in restroom.

04:04:26.940 20 logical fallacies, Andrew.

04:04:29.240 What's your favorite?

04:04:30.880 I meant Squeakers was nice to Brian.

04:04:32.840 I think she, like, Demi kind of, like, has a crush on me, to be honest.

04:04:38.840 A little bit.

04:04:39.580 I think she secretly wants me.

04:04:41.180 Oh.

04:04:43.160 Is the feelings reciprocated?

04:04:45.140 No.

04:04:45.360 No.

04:04:47.280 Okay.

04:04:47.900 I love you, like...

04:04:49.680 Like, you're my Caucasian.

04:04:52.720 Oh, yeah.

04:04:53.440 You're my Caucasian.

04:04:55.320 I'm cool with that.

04:04:56.340 Andrew, which is your favorite logical fallacy?

04:04:59.440 Uh, well, I mean, you have to at least make some kind of coherent argument for me to point

04:05:08.080 out a fallacy, honestly.

04:05:10.460 Hmm.

04:05:11.320 Okay.

04:05:12.760 Or at least something that I can understand.

04:05:16.120 Most of it's just, honestly, it's just gibberish.

04:05:19.220 Wait, Nick, there's actually...

04:05:20.440 I try to filter it through, but I'm like, that's...

04:05:23.580 So what I always try to do, I always try to steel man a position so I understand that

04:05:27.020 I get what you're saying correct before I respond to it, but, yeah, just not much coherency

04:05:33.760 at all, so...

04:05:34.860 Nick, on the bookmark bar, I think there's actually, like, something to do with fallacies.

04:05:39.800 Do you see it?

04:05:42.160 Is it on the podcast?

04:05:43.740 No, I think it's actually on the bookmarks bar.

04:05:47.380 Huh?

04:05:47.740 It could be on web.

04:05:48.800 Check the web one.

04:05:50.860 Yeah.

04:05:52.140 Oh, web, yeah.

04:05:53.080 Do you see it?

04:05:55.020 Like, 25...

04:05:56.220 Yeah, pull it up.

04:05:58.000 I'm good.

04:05:59.020 Excuse me.

04:06:00.280 Joe Vaughn, dude, it's through...

04:06:02.360 You got to do it through TTS, brother.

04:06:04.380 Or, sorry, through streamlabs.com slash whatever.

04:06:06.720 Otherwise, it won't come through as TTS.

04:06:08.740 We'll read it, though.

04:06:09.560 Go ahead.

04:06:12.280 Make it bigger.

04:06:14.780 Make it bigger?

04:06:15.840 Yeah, that's good.

04:06:17.060 What are...

04:06:17.660 Just hover over.

04:06:18.900 There, you got the straw man there.

04:06:20.420 Start at the top.

04:06:21.580 Very top.

04:06:23.320 Nope.

04:06:24.200 You got a mouse?

04:06:24.920 Scroll up.

04:06:25.380 Oh, that's good.

04:06:26.600 Nope.

04:06:27.140 Scroll up.

04:06:28.740 Yep.

04:06:30.080 Okay, you got a straw man.

04:06:31.100 What's the next one?

04:06:32.880 You don't got false caught.

04:06:33.960 Next one.

04:06:34.920 What the...

04:06:36.060 Appeal...

04:06:36.580 Eh.

04:06:38.840 No.

04:06:40.240 You got the slippery slope.

04:06:42.320 Ad-hom.

04:06:42.820 Two quote, two quote, two quote, personal incredulity, special pleading.

04:06:49.660 I like the...

04:06:51.600 Wait, hold on, hold on.

04:06:52.560 I have this in my memory.

04:06:54.880 I think it's the fallacy of relative privation.

04:07:02.160 What is that?

04:07:02.940 That's like, there's, or it's a appeal to a larger problem.

04:07:09.200 So basically, well, we shouldn't talk about this perceived smaller problem because somewhere

04:07:16.100 else in the world, there's starving children in Africa.

04:07:18.920 Okay, so that's like when people comment on like, but what about Palestine?

04:07:23.000 Right.

04:07:23.180 I know that your mom just died, but what about Palestine?

04:07:25.800 Brian, why do you, why are we concerned with body count when there's a conflict in the Middle

04:07:30.840 East right now?

04:07:31.800 That's, that would be, I believe, fallacy of relative privation.

04:07:37.560 Had that shit.

04:07:39.520 Okay, anyways.

04:07:40.300 That's a good one.

04:07:40.780 Would you bow?

04:07:42.420 I would bark like a dog if he told me to.

04:07:45.560 I'm very submissive.

04:07:46.960 I'll do whatever daddy says.

04:07:49.040 Yes!

04:07:49.660 I did it.

04:07:50.620 That's awesome!

04:07:51.760 What?

04:07:52.140 Yeah.

04:07:52.780 You barked?

04:07:53.700 For Frankie?

04:07:54.360 Oh no.

04:07:55.460 I bowed, but I don't think he got it.

04:07:57.760 You hit him with a bow?

04:07:58.580 That's really not that crazy.

04:07:59.600 He like, I don't think he understood.

04:08:01.680 Like, he bounced back.

04:08:01.880 I would do a lot of unspeakable things if I would have told you.

04:08:04.500 He bounced back because he thought we were going to play like ninja or something.

04:08:06.920 He was confused.

04:08:09.080 Maybe I should retry it.

04:08:11.780 He could have been confused for another reason.

04:08:16.880 What?

04:08:20.120 You know.

04:08:21.640 Like, maybe he just.

04:08:22.880 Never mind.

04:08:23.340 Okay, anyways.

04:08:24.480 Would you bow?

04:08:25.800 Yeah, I had a hard time with this at first, and then I did some thinking about it.

04:08:29.600 And I was like, oh, I, I, yeah, that makes sense.

04:08:33.280 And I, that's the level of submissive that we should be.

04:08:36.380 Yeah.

04:08:36.560 So if we were, like, if we were dating, it was like third date or whatever.

04:08:38.920 I was like, can I see a bow?

04:08:42.320 Would you do it?

04:08:43.280 Oh God, that's so difficult.

04:08:45.700 Third date?

04:08:46.420 Third date.

04:08:46.820 Why are you against it?

04:08:48.120 Why am I against it?

04:08:49.080 I'm going to ask on the first date.

04:08:50.720 I was being, I was being generous.

04:08:52.920 I have a genuine question.

04:08:54.280 What's that?

04:08:54.600 What, what, what you got?

04:08:56.480 I guess, like, the question would be, what is it that you're seeking that the bow gives you?

04:09:01.060 Is it just a reminder of submission?

04:09:03.740 Is it a reminder of respect in that moment?

04:09:05.900 Is it a ritual that you're relying on?

04:09:07.940 Because then, if it's a ritual, that isn't even necessarily, like.

04:09:13.400 Like, it's done out of habit.

04:09:15.980 Yeah.

04:09:16.480 Like, it's.

04:09:17.600 Is this me?

04:09:18.720 Yeah, I guess.

04:09:19.460 Honestly, she doesn't even have to hit it.

04:09:21.720 She just has to be willing to do it.

04:09:23.880 Like, I'm not just, like, ask, like, if I'm hanging out with a chick, she doesn't have

04:09:28.740 to be hitting that every time we're hanging out.

04:09:31.780 She has to be willing to, though.

04:09:33.700 I think it's a no-brainer.

04:09:34.860 Yeah, I think what she's coming from is kind of, like, what your intent is.

04:09:37.520 And it's also mostly, it's just, it's honestly mostly to just, like, trigger the

04:09:40.760 It's an action of submission, an action of respect.

04:09:44.200 But I think there's so many other actions that show that.

04:09:47.660 It's so, it's like, if my husband were to ask me, will you bow?

04:09:50.520 I would say, okay, sure.

04:09:51.880 Oh, you think all I want is a bow?

04:09:53.500 Whatever you want, but also.

04:09:54.700 No, it's like, why do you want it?

04:09:55.560 Look at all these other things.

04:09:56.580 I'm high maintenance.

04:09:57.460 I am high maintenance.

04:09:58.840 I need way more than a bow.

04:10:00.580 Let's talk.

04:10:01.040 She's got to do the laundry.

04:10:03.080 She's got to, yeah, come over, first date, boom.

04:10:06.940 Laundry.

04:10:07.820 Can you fold it for me?

04:10:08.860 You know, immediately.

04:10:09.780 Can I make you a sandwich?

04:10:10.240 That's the first date.

04:10:11.940 I'll do it.

04:10:12.860 I don't trust her with that.

04:10:14.220 Oh, okay.

04:10:14.720 I'll just do DoorDash.

04:10:15.900 I think a lot of women don't, they have the response against the bow because it, like,

04:10:20.960 there's something in them that feels resistant because they think it's making themselves lesser

04:10:25.440 than.

04:10:26.600 But honestly, like, if you know your identity and you're truly confident.

04:10:30.740 But I mean, it is.

04:10:31.280 If you're confident in yourself and then you know your place, like, in a marriage and submission,

04:10:37.180 then that doesn't.

04:10:37.960 Otherwise, the place of humbleness is lesser than.

04:10:40.360 Oh.

04:10:40.640 Humbleness is to state, right, that you feel lesser than whatever this thing is, which

04:10:48.100 is in front of you.

04:10:48.740 That is what humility is.

04:10:51.020 You don't go to somebody who's great at something and be humble to them because you think you're

04:10:55.040 better than they are, right?

04:10:56.360 That would be absurd.

04:10:57.240 I disagree completely.

04:10:58.360 Lesser than in what way?

04:10:59.340 Well, then let's get into it then.

04:11:01.560 Who do you go to who is super talented that you have humility towards because you think

04:11:06.380 that you're better than they are?

04:11:08.000 Don't you think that you're lesser than them in some regard?

04:11:11.660 Doesn't mean I'm saying that you're lesser than them in some regard?

04:11:13.640 Like, don't equivocate and say, but I'm lesser than a human being.

04:11:19.160 That's not what I'm saying.

04:11:20.040 Donated $69.

04:11:21.620 We get it, Brian.

04:11:22.840 You want a woman to submit to you.

04:11:24.640 Just become a passport, bro.

04:11:26.500 Already, gosh, and go to Thailand for the lady boys.

04:11:29.480 But that's what, I mean, that's what humility is.

04:11:34.740 If you're being humble in front of God, is it because you're on par with God?

04:11:39.360 Listen up, Jessica.

04:11:41.020 I'm finding the bow.

04:11:42.080 I found the bow.

04:11:42.980 The bow is just fine in the United States.

04:11:45.300 Okay?

04:11:45.720 I'm doing good.

04:11:46.500 I'm doing fine.

04:11:47.040 Okay.

04:11:47.320 Jesus was a humble man.

04:11:48.520 Jesus said, the Bible said, well, Jesus's words are the greatest among you will be the

04:11:53.620 least of you.

04:11:54.760 So it's like, if you really want to be the greatest amongst your peers or amongst your

04:11:59.140 group, you would be the one to serve them.

04:12:01.800 And you lower yourself.

04:12:03.200 That is humility.

04:12:04.040 That is being humble.

04:12:05.000 And it's not me saying, I think I'm above my husband because I submit to him.

04:12:09.120 I don't know.

04:12:09.300 Lesser than.

04:12:10.020 If you're humble in front of God, is it because you think that you're on par with God?

04:12:16.220 Could you repeat that?

04:12:17.820 If you're humble to God, is it because you think you're on par with God or you think you're

04:12:22.400 lesser than God?

04:12:22.840 I'm a child of God.

04:12:23.680 I'm, I am seated at the.

04:12:25.500 That's not my question.

04:12:26.660 I didn't ask you to redefine it.

04:12:28.160 I asked you a specific question.

04:12:29.540 A specific question again is, you humble yourself in front of God.

04:12:32.820 Is that because you think you're on par with God or lesser than God?

04:12:38.800 On par.

04:12:39.840 What does that mean?

04:12:40.660 Like at the same level?

04:12:41.900 Equal.

04:12:42.720 Equal with God?

04:12:43.920 No, I don't.

04:12:44.700 I don't believe that.

04:12:45.160 But her husband isn't God.

04:12:46.360 So you would be, you would consider yourself lesser than God?

04:12:49.200 Yeah, I would.

04:12:50.220 And so you need to have humility, right?

04:12:53.060 Yeah.

04:12:53.680 And so back to Ephesians.

04:12:55.800 Ephesians says you would have to respect your husband.

04:12:59.520 Not respect us.

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04:13:05.140 First, you cut a hole in the ice.

04:13:07.460 Then you grab a can of peas and sprinkle them around the hole.

04:13:11.160 When a polar bear bends down to eat the peas, you kick them in the ice hole.

04:13:15.220 What kind of Looney Tunes nonsense is that?

04:13:18.820 I don't think that works.

04:13:20.420 But yeah, back to, so back to this, back to Ephesians, it says you submit to your husband

04:13:25.080 as you would submit unto the Lord.

04:13:27.280 So if you're submitting unto the Lord, and that form of submission is I'm lesser than you,

04:13:32.660 that's why I'm humble.

04:13:33.540 Well, then wouldn't the same thing apply to your husband?

04:13:37.360 Her husband isn't God, though.

04:13:38.680 I see what you're trying to say, and I think you're putting the husband in God's position.

04:13:47.680 And even though it's...

04:13:49.140 What does submit to him the same way that you would unto the Lord mean to you?

04:13:55.300 It means that, well, I mean, I guess everyone has to define what they believe submission is.

04:14:02.140 Submission...

04:14:02.580 Now, what does that mean?

04:14:03.500 I'm not asking what you think submission is.

04:14:06.260 I think I know what you think submission is.

04:14:09.300 I'm asking you, what does it mean that you're supposed to submit to your husband as you would unto the Lord?

04:14:16.400 What does that mean?

04:14:19.140 I think that...

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04:14:26.740 Christ is king.

04:14:28.340 Great work, Andrew, fighting on the front line.

04:14:30.740 God bless you and your family.

04:14:32.820 To the ladies, you should acknowledge a bit more when points are proven,

04:14:36.500 giving other ladies inspiration.

04:14:40.540 Thank you, Javon.

04:14:41.260 Okay.

04:14:45.040 I think the answer that I...

04:14:47.700 The best answer I can give you because I don't fully understand your question, I guess.

04:14:51.800 Ephesians 22.

04:14:53.080 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands as unto the Lord.

04:14:57.400 If you're telling me that submission unto the Lord and humbleness unto the Lord means that you think you're lesser than him,

04:15:04.320 then wouldn't it mean the same thing to your husband?

04:15:09.420 Sure.

04:15:10.620 Yeah, that's the question.

04:15:12.080 But lesser than...

04:15:13.200 When you say that you're humble to your husband, you are making the admission that you're lesser than.

04:15:17.900 That's what humbleness is.

04:15:19.180 I'm lesser than you in some way.

04:15:20.200 But lesser than in what way?

04:15:22.040 Because lesser than doesn't mean...

04:15:22.700 We're not talking about lesser than as far as your humanity.

04:15:25.540 That doesn't mean less valuable.

04:15:27.240 You're not a lesser human.

04:15:28.160 That doesn't...

04:15:28.680 I'm answering your question.

04:15:29.900 Hang on.

04:15:30.380 Let me answer the question.

04:15:31.620 I'm not saying that you're lesser than in the form of humanity.

04:15:34.940 You still have the same kinds of moral givings that you would give to any human being.

04:15:41.080 But that doesn't mean you're making the acknowledgement that he's the head.

04:15:44.200 If he's the head and you're the body, then you operate in a role lesser than him.

04:15:48.900 Yeah.

04:15:49.260 So, I mean, lesser than isn't something that I'm afraid of.

04:15:54.200 I'm not afraid of being lesser than because I think what you're trying to say is just that he's the one that makes more decisions,

04:16:00.820 operates, is the head, the leader, whatever you want to call it.

04:16:04.220 More than?

04:16:05.240 I feel like that's just...

04:16:07.040 I guess you're just using terminology that's polarizing.

04:16:10.660 But, yeah.

04:16:11.040 No, it's not polarizing.

04:16:12.600 I'm using terminology which is within the purview of the Orthodox Church, which is the original Church of Christ.

04:16:18.660 When you say lesser than, like, in what way?

04:16:20.460 In value?

04:16:21.840 No.

04:16:22.320 He said...

04:16:22.980 No, in many ways.

04:16:24.180 In value, yes.

04:16:25.220 But not in moral value, but perhaps material value, and also perhaps your role in regards to your children.

04:16:32.800 You have a lesser role than your husband, and that's why the humility is there.

04:16:37.940 The humility is there because you know that he has a greater duty than you do,

04:16:41.140 which is why you have the expectation in Christian rule, he takes the bullet.

04:16:45.080 That's why he gets the big piece of chicken, and you have to fucking bow.

04:16:48.380 That's why.

04:16:49.440 Right?

04:16:50.120 Isn't that the whole point?

04:16:52.640 Absolutely.

04:16:57.080 Okay.

04:16:57.480 Am I, I mean, am I wrong from your purview?

04:17:02.260 Are you asking me?

04:17:05.020 To be honest, I don't know because I haven't studied that, so I can't really speak on that.

04:17:10.640 But if that's your, if that's your...

04:17:11.940 I mean, you haven't studied Ephesians and you're a submissive Christian wife, really?

04:17:17.260 I haven't studied it and had that revelation personally.

04:17:21.900 So if that's your revelation that you've gotten from that, then that's fine.

04:17:25.940 But for me, I don't view myself as lesser than, I guess, than my husband.

04:17:32.600 Because lesser than, I see...

04:17:34.720 Wait, it needs to be revealed to you?

04:17:37.020 Yeah.

04:17:37.360 If it can be revealed to me in a way where I hear it from God and not in a podcast where, you know...

04:17:48.020 And how do you clarify if it's coming from God or not?

04:17:51.360 How do I clarify?

04:17:52.980 Yeah.

04:17:53.460 Like, for instance, how do you know it's not Satan talking to you?

04:17:56.000 Would you maybe go to verify the Bible?

04:17:57.200 Well, that's discernment.

04:17:58.480 And if you have the Holy Spirit in you...

04:18:00.140 Well, wait a second.

04:18:01.400 Wait a second.

04:18:01.840 Wouldn't you go to the Bible to make a verification too?

04:18:04.080 Well, I truly believe that the devil knows the Bible more than we do.

04:18:09.280 He knows the Bible.

04:18:10.160 He quotes the Bible all the time.

04:18:11.780 So to say that the devil wouldn't speak to you through scripture, that I just...

04:18:16.680 It's happened to me before.

04:18:18.200 Listen, I don't disagree that that's true.

04:18:20.040 But I'm asking you, how do you verify these things?

04:18:22.340 If you have no ecclesiastical authority you appeal to and you have the Bible you don't appeal to,

04:18:26.740 how do you know that it's God talking to you?

04:18:29.160 Usually, I just check with my spirit.

04:18:31.100 But if I have to go even further than that, I'll run it by a leader in the church.

04:18:35.820 Sometimes I'll even ask my pastor if this aligns with scripture.

04:18:39.920 Because I'm still learning.

04:18:41.140 I don't know.

04:18:41.800 But what happens if you think God's talking to you and you go to your pastor and he tells you,

04:18:49.000 no, the voice you're hearing is wrong.

04:18:51.080 That's not what you should be doing.

04:18:52.800 Well, a good pastor...

04:18:53.300 Do you adhere to the pastor or do you...

04:18:54.800 Hang on.

04:18:55.180 Let me finish the question.

04:18:56.000 Okay.

04:18:56.220 No, let's respond.

04:18:57.060 Sorry.

04:18:57.360 Do you adhere to the pastor or do you adhere to your own internalization of whatever this

04:19:02.180 voice is?

04:19:02.980 Well, let me be honest with you.

04:19:04.100 I would go to my husband first before my pastor.

04:19:06.540 So I would go to my husband and I would review this revelation with him.

04:19:10.460 This revelation I would either get through studying scripture or through sometimes just having

04:19:16.620 visions or dreams or things like that.

04:19:20.160 Things of the spirit.

04:19:20.680 Yeah, but how do you verify that that's God?

04:19:23.880 But I...

04:19:24.900 Well, it's like saying, like, how do you know God is real?

04:19:31.380 Like...

04:19:31.660 No, it's not like saying that.

04:19:32.480 I can't describe it.

04:19:33.080 I'm asking if you're getting actual divine revelations.

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04:19:37.820 Would you rather run into the devil or a bear in the woods?

04:19:41.740 Yeah, we can get back to these.

04:19:42.820 I'm sure Brian will read them all off.

04:19:44.200 But I'm sorry.

04:19:46.100 I'm not quite ready to let you escape the question.

04:19:48.680 That's okay.

04:19:49.060 Um, so tell me, how do you, how do you verify, how do you, how do you create a verification

04:19:54.720 that there's actually the voice of God?

04:19:56.840 How do you know?

04:19:58.420 How do I know?

04:19:59.800 Because it'll bring you peace.

04:20:01.260 It won't bring you anxiety.

04:20:02.840 Well, the devil can bring you peace and, and, uh, non-anxiety as well.

04:20:06.800 So how do you know?

04:20:08.760 I don't think so.

04:20:10.240 How did the, how did the people who wrote the Bible know that it was God's words that...

04:20:13.980 Oh, this is a $400 million question.

04:20:16.040 I have the answer, but before I get into it, I'd like to have the answer.

04:20:19.060 From her as to the question I asked.

04:20:23.280 Well, I just check with my spirit and see if, if the revelation or the words that I'm

04:20:29.380 getting are giving me the feeling of peace and comfort, because ultimately that's the

04:20:34.880 feeling that comes from the Father.

04:20:36.240 Everything, the truth is going to ultimately give your spirit peace.

04:20:40.780 And wouldn't that make you the ultimate arbiter of God's word then?

04:20:43.360 Because after all, he can just give you revelation and you've been checked with your spirit.

04:20:47.800 It's verified that way.

04:20:49.680 Could anybody convince you different?

04:20:51.440 Aren't you the ultimate arbiter then of God's word?

04:20:54.300 No, because my conscience is very personal to me.

04:20:57.020 And the conscience is a huge part of this argument because the conscience is, you know, that is a very

04:21:02.820 individual thing on an individual level.

04:21:04.880 So like what the Lord puts on my conscience or convicts me of could be very different from

04:21:09.760 your convictions.

04:21:10.800 Well, let's put this to the test and find out if this is true.

04:21:13.700 Okay.

04:21:13.940 Let us assume for a moment that you're, you're a vote is coming up.

04:21:19.100 Okay.

04:21:19.540 And, uh, you have one of these revelatory dreams where you feel, and you've checked with your

04:21:25.460 spirit that God has told you to vote for X political candidate and your husband goes to

04:21:30.600 you and he says, no, you need to vote for this political candidate instead.

04:21:35.940 What do you do?

04:21:38.120 Um, I would listen to my husband over my own dreams.

04:21:41.120 So then you're saying then that this divine revelation that you get, you're not actually

04:21:46.120 sure it comes from God.

04:21:47.240 Um, like I said, I would check it with my husband.

04:21:50.740 If it was trying to call me into some sort of action, like making a decision or something

04:21:55.100 like that, then yes.

04:21:57.500 Yeah.

04:21:58.000 So I would check it with my husband.

04:21:59.900 Yeah.

04:22:00.140 So this is really weird then.

04:22:01.360 I don't understand.

04:22:01.880 So is your husband, the ultimate arbiter of God's word, or is the revelation, which you

04:22:07.180 feel like you've received since I've been, since I've been married?

04:22:09.780 Yes.

04:22:10.580 Since I've been your husband's the ultimate arbiter of God's word.

04:22:13.200 Do you?

04:22:14.000 Yeah, I guess that's, I haven't even really realized.

04:22:17.240 It until now, but yes.

04:22:19.380 So then who, what authority does he appeal to?

04:22:24.140 Like, how do you know your husband's giving you God's word?

04:22:27.140 Cause I just have faith that he is.

04:22:29.440 Cause you just have faith.

04:22:30.680 Yeah.

04:22:31.360 I just have, I just have faith.

04:22:32.920 At some point, like you just have to have faith.

04:22:36.240 Like faith is, is what you hope for.

04:22:38.540 It's, it's what you hope to, to be true.

04:22:41.060 And I'll honestly, like, it's the reason why our marriage works so well is because like

04:22:45.720 I have so much faith in him and you should look into orthodoxy.

04:22:49.440 It'd be good for both of you.

04:22:50.580 Cause this is, um, you, you, I mean, you can see how incoherent this is, right?

04:22:55.700 This is why a Protestantism is an atheist factory.

04:22:58.260 So you say, you claim that you have divine revelation, but you can't verify it.

04:23:02.240 And then you say, no, I can verify it, but just with my husband.

04:23:05.240 But how do you know that your husband's giving you actual divine revelation?

04:23:08.220 You say, because you just have faith that he does.

04:23:10.300 That doesn't seem circular to you and kind of insane.

04:23:13.080 Just a little bit.

04:23:13.540 Okay.

04:23:13.740 So what makes, what makes like someone worthy of interpreting God's word then?

04:23:19.000 If not me.

04:23:20.080 You don't interpret it.

04:23:21.580 Well, you, you don't, well, wait a second.

04:23:23.620 You don't interpret it, right?

04:23:24.820 You just said that you have divine revelation, have to check with your husband and know if it's true.

04:23:28.480 So he's the interpreter.

04:23:31.360 What I'm saying is, what is the alternative?

04:23:34.020 So you're, you're talking about orthodox.

04:23:35.800 The alternative is an ecclesiastical authority, which has a popular succession.

04:23:40.520 Okay.

04:23:41.500 I've purchased the books.

04:23:43.540 Any other recommendations for $69?

04:23:46.900 A paltry sum, I know, but perhaps it's enough for a sci-fi title.

04:23:52.160 Sorry for the pause.

04:23:53.560 Keep cooking, sir.

04:23:55.220 Yeah.

04:23:55.720 So I go for Ender's Game, man.

04:23:57.960 And you know what?

04:23:58.540 Go for Ender's Shadow.

04:23:59.620 That's even better than Ender's Game.

04:24:02.220 Do Ender's Shadow if you want a good sci-fi recommendation.

04:24:05.500 You can also do, I don't remember what it's called.

04:24:08.500 I think it's called Red, but it's a, it's a really good one too.

04:24:11.660 So I don't remember exactly where we were.

04:24:13.760 Oh yeah, we're talking about revelation, how you confirm which revelation is correct and

04:24:18.000 which one is not correct.

04:24:19.180 And I was just kind of explaining to you that you should, you should try to think of this

04:24:24.300 as a circle and a circular argument so you can know if it's coherent or not.

04:24:28.380 But if you say, if you make the claim, I get divine revelation directly from God, but

04:24:33.140 the way I verify that I got divine revelation from God is by checking with my husband, then

04:24:37.280 what you've done is put divine revelation to your husband and say that all of your divine

04:24:41.240 revelation comes from him, right?

04:24:43.240 So how do you verify that that's true?

04:24:45.340 That's the question.

04:24:46.100 I guess, yeah, that, I mean, I, I don't really know.

04:24:51.820 So as, are you saying that you need to have like, like a system of authority in place with

04:24:57.540 the church?

04:24:58.340 Is that what you're, is that what you're suggesting?

04:24:59.820 You have an ecclesiastical authority, it doesn't make any sense.

04:25:02.540 Because like if, let's just say it was a circumstance where I felt like my husband and I, we needed

04:25:07.580 to check, you know, something that we felt like God was telling us.

04:25:12.020 We would run it through our pastor or through our church because we are in our church.

04:25:15.380 Where does he get his authority?

04:25:17.200 The pastors?

04:25:18.680 Yeah.

04:25:19.800 Exactly.

04:25:20.360 I mean, that's like the big question, right?

04:25:22.460 It's like, what?

04:25:23.000 That's the question I'm asking you.

04:25:25.340 That is the big question.

04:25:26.520 You keep going, you keep going back to the ecclesiastic, uh, ecclesiastes submission to

04:25:31.760 your authority.

04:25:32.840 Yeah.

04:25:33.140 So submission to your husband and she's saying that that's what she does, but then you're

04:25:38.640 also saying that that's wrong, but you're also pointing towards the argument.

04:25:41.460 So I guess I haven't, I haven't even said anything is wrong.

04:25:43.480 I just explained that there's a circular argument.

04:25:46.440 Well, you're telling, okay, well, so shall we move it on?

04:25:51.220 Yeah, we can.

04:25:52.300 But I was just saying that it's a circular argument that you should look at.

04:25:55.980 Um, I would, I would look at no orthodoxy, honestly, because you seem bright, right?

04:26:01.060 Like you can see the problem here.

04:26:02.480 I'm sure if your husband watches this later, you'll see the problem too.

04:26:05.100 The problem, but it's, you're not saying it's wrong.

04:26:07.680 So who are you suggesting that my husband be submitted to?

04:26:11.340 What?

04:26:11.860 The church.

04:26:13.220 But just the, just the orthodox church.

04:26:15.600 So where does the orthodox church get their authority versus a regular non-denominational

04:26:19.640 church?

04:26:19.940 Through apostolic, through apostolic succession.

04:26:21.900 So they can trace the lineage back of all the bishops to the original apostles of Jesus

04:26:27.320 Christ, and they have an unchanging, unchanging sacramental chain.

04:26:32.580 That's how you know, and you can verify what is true and what is not.

04:26:35.720 It's something which doesn't exist in Protestantism, which was only invented 400 years ago.

04:26:40.780 Well, it sounds like you know more about church history than I do, but I personally, I personally

04:26:45.440 disagree with you.

04:26:46.440 I personally disagree with you because I think anyone that's received the Holy Spirit can,

04:26:52.080 can be a child of God and have the authority to walk in.

04:26:57.040 Well, that's, that's strange.

04:26:58.220 So what happens if two people who claim that they have the Holy Spirit disagree on what

04:27:02.240 scripture says, which one should I go with as the observer?

04:27:06.880 Whichever feels right to your conscience and you might disagree with me, but.

04:27:10.960 So then, so then it's just really the majority of people who say X, that means that X is true,

04:27:15.740 right?

04:27:16.440 Well, don't you, don't you take the authority to the Bible, to the word of God?

04:27:20.920 No, because the Bible was, the Bible was written by the church.

04:27:24.360 Jesus didn't come to give us the Bible.

04:27:26.460 He came to give us the church.

04:27:27.960 That's what he came to give us.

04:27:28.960 And that's what he gave us.

04:27:30.240 The church wrote the Bible.

04:27:32.400 Jesus followed the Bible also.

04:27:33.840 The church wrote the Bible.

04:27:35.000 Jesus followed the Bible.

04:27:36.300 Is that so?

04:27:37.060 The Old Testament.

04:27:38.340 Yeah.

04:27:39.120 You would quote scriptures.

04:27:39.760 No, no.

04:27:41.100 Listen, they were talking about the New Testament.

04:27:44.380 No, Jesus didn't follow the New Testament.

04:27:46.940 This was, most of the New Testament is written by apostles in their letters.

04:27:51.060 And the church put all of that together.

04:27:52.660 The church, yeah.

04:27:53.120 But the church put the Bible together.

04:27:55.560 But you're saying that the church wrote the Bible?

04:27:58.160 Well, no, I didn't say that.

04:27:59.940 I said they put it together.

04:28:01.220 How, how is it that you think that they worship before there was a Bible?

04:28:04.340 You realize that there were Christians long before there was a Bible, right?

04:28:07.420 Yeah, yeah.

04:28:08.480 Yeah, so what did they do?

04:28:11.300 Well, they had a system in place where they would go to the temple and offer their sacrifices

04:28:16.900 and go to the priests.

04:28:18.020 I do have to move it along, folks.

04:28:20.140 I do have to move it along.

04:28:21.200 Going back to just.

04:28:23.880 Thanks for your tidbit, but I disagree with you completely.

04:28:27.140 Yeah, I know.

04:28:27.700 But you, when, when put to the question as to what happens if two, if two of these people

04:28:33.080 disagree and they're both filled with the Holy Spirit, which one do we go with?

04:28:37.140 You just say whatever the majority of people think.

04:28:38.980 That's not really, I mean, that's literally an argument that popumes, an appealed majority.

04:28:43.080 That's not what she said.

04:28:44.280 But we'll move on.

04:28:45.980 I guess it's up to interpretation at that point.

04:28:48.880 I do want to just respond to some of the messages here.

04:28:51.460 I do need to re-trigger one since we kind of overlooked it.

04:28:54.380 To Gerald, just Gerald, you're asking for book recommendations.

04:28:58.420 I must certainly co-sign Andrew's recommendation of Ender's Game.

04:29:03.700 Did you also recommend, was it Ender's Shadow too?

04:29:06.140 Ender's Shadow is actually quite good.

04:29:08.300 It's better from the perspective of being instead of Ender's.

04:29:11.020 Yes, being.

04:29:12.040 I'd also like you, you should continue though on the Ender's Game.

04:29:16.700 So I believe there's, after that, there's Xenocide, Speaker of the, wait, Speaker of

04:29:25.200 the Dead.

04:29:25.460 Speaker of the Dead.

04:29:26.300 Children of the Mind, if I recall.

04:29:28.100 I read these 10, 20 years ago.

04:29:30.540 Absolutely fantastic.

04:29:31.300 They were just as good then.

04:29:32.960 Fantastic recommendation from Andrew.

04:29:35.880 I think the film adaptation of Ender's Game though was an absolute catastrophe, total catastrophe.

04:29:44.120 But Ender's Game, fantastic book.

04:29:46.960 You could also consider A Wizard of Earthsea.

04:29:50.280 It's not bad.

04:29:50.760 Yeah, look at the other one I've been reading lately, the Red Rising series.

04:29:54.600 I would take a look at that.

04:29:55.460 It's quite good.

04:29:56.400 It was recommended to me by a chatter named Peacecraft.

04:29:58.880 And he didn't steer me wrong.

04:30:00.960 It's an excellent, it's an excellent book series in the sci-fi genre.

04:30:05.440 Then we had this one.

04:30:06.760 Killer of cereal donated $69.

04:30:09.880 Would you rather run into the devil or a bear in the woods?

04:30:13.000 So we'll ask it.

04:30:14.300 Which one?

04:30:15.280 The devil.

04:30:16.580 Really?

04:30:17.200 Why?

04:30:17.920 What?

04:30:18.600 Wait, what?

04:30:19.480 Because you're not afraid because you're safe?

04:30:20.920 I'd beat his ass.

04:30:22.340 Oh.

04:30:22.580 Oh, okay.

04:30:27.620 Okay, the devil, I guess.

04:30:31.240 You'd rather run into the devil?

04:30:33.840 I am the devil.

04:30:35.640 Oh my gosh, do not even say that.

04:30:38.060 Did you just say that you are the devil?

04:30:39.300 I meant that in a jokey way.

04:30:41.860 Sorry, I don't mean to offend.

04:30:44.380 Does the devil wear Prada?

04:30:46.660 The devil does.

04:30:47.720 Yeah, she does.

04:30:48.600 Maybe the devil for the plot, but otherwise the bear.

04:30:52.580 I'm going to go with bear.

04:30:56.720 Excuse me?

04:30:58.460 Okay.

04:30:59.680 On this one, I too am going to go with bear.

04:31:02.260 All right.

04:31:03.860 Cool, cool, cool.

04:31:04.620 And then we do have this one.

04:31:06.120 Natalia, can I have you read this?

04:31:07.500 Thank you.

04:31:08.100 Thank you.

04:31:09.340 Christ is king.

04:31:11.220 Great work, Andrew, for fighting on the front line.

04:31:13.540 God bless you and your family.

04:31:15.040 To the ladies, you should acknowledge a bit more when points are proven,

04:31:18.540 giving other ladies inspiration to be strong against this crazy world.

04:31:22.660 Have we read that one already?

04:31:23.920 I think so.

04:31:25.020 Didn't we?

04:31:25.360 It came in as a TTS.

04:31:26.800 Oh, you also sent it as a TTS?

04:31:28.640 Okay.

04:31:29.040 All right.

04:31:29.880 Thank you, Joe.

04:31:30.400 I appreciate that.

04:31:31.480 Appreciate it.

04:31:32.500 Let's get to some of the pre-show notes here.

04:31:34.560 Got some pre-show notes we got to get through.

04:31:37.400 Yeah, really quick, guys.

04:31:38.160 Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:31:39.500 Drop us a follow.

04:31:40.020 Drop us a Prime's hub if you have one.

04:31:42.020 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:31:44.860 Actually, really quick, on the bullet thing.

04:31:48.580 Last thing on the bullet thing, right?

04:31:50.780 Oh, God.

04:31:51.660 Okay.

04:31:52.520 What's crazy to me is...

04:31:54.300 I want...

04:31:55.840 Oh.

04:31:56.000 Up here.

04:31:56.780 Aquatic donated $69.

04:31:59.460 Why do you post on non-livans if you're scared of being SA by men?

04:32:03.800 What?

04:32:04.080 Wouldn't you more likely to be SA to random men that pay for your content that's online wanting to have sex with you?

04:32:11.280 Fantastic question.

04:32:11.860 Fantastic question.

04:32:14.700 Fantastic question.

04:32:16.180 Why do I have a risky job, essentially?

04:32:19.360 I mean, so many people have risky jobs.

04:32:23.560 Yeah, but that's like me saying I'm terrified of falling off of a building and then getting a job as a person who cleans windows on a skyscraper, right?

04:32:32.060 Can I answer that?

04:32:32.820 The question is, is like, if you're really that concerned about it, why would you enter into a job in a field where the risk exponentially becomes higher?

04:32:41.680 I think I was already being sexualized against my will for free, so now I'm just monetizing it.

04:32:48.140 Yeah, but that actually makes no sense either.

04:32:50.600 Because if you say...

04:32:51.220 Yes, it does.

04:32:52.000 ...random men were sexualizing me and I wasn't charging them, I can agree that that could be true.

04:32:56.920 It's like taking back your power, but the men are benefiting from it.

04:32:59.880 You're not poignantly giving those men a target of you specifically just by you, like, existing.

04:33:07.340 It's true that maybe random men could still look at you and sexualize you in some way, I guess, but you're not giving them a pointed target like your OnlyFans or something like this, which would bring the worst of the worst to you.

04:33:17.600 People were literally uploading my YouTube videos to Pornhub and they had millions of views.

04:33:23.400 So, and like, they were putting like...

04:33:24.740 What were your YouTube videos about?

04:33:26.100 I was sponsored by Zoffel and I was trying on bikinis, but they were just clipping the parts where I tried them on.

04:33:30.720 So that was sexual.

04:33:31.140 It was the same shit as sexualization.

04:33:33.040 But they were uploading moaning of other people in the background and had over a million views.

04:33:36.620 I had to get taken down when I was like 20 years old.

04:33:38.800 So this is before I had an OnlyFans.

04:33:40.280 Things like that were happening constantly.

04:33:42.160 Yeah, but it's the same concept.

04:33:43.560 They made deepfakes of my Instagram photos, nudes that weren't actually me.

04:33:47.440 It's the same concept.

04:33:48.060 It's the same concept applied across the board.

04:33:51.060 Should women not post photos of themselves online?

04:33:53.280 Which is hyper-sexualizing of yourself.

04:33:55.980 Yeah.

04:33:56.200 Of course that's going to attract that type of demographic.

04:33:58.060 Oh, I don't disagree with that.

04:33:59.240 Yeah, of course.

04:34:00.380 Yeah.

04:34:00.820 I'm just saying it was happening anyways.

04:34:03.380 Well, no, no, no, that's bullshit.

04:34:05.360 It wasn't happening anyways.

04:34:07.260 What was happening is you were releasing content which highly sexualized yourself and was bringing that crowd in.

04:34:15.100 It wasn't happening.

04:34:15.940 You weren't like walking down the street and being targeted, you know, in a sexual way by random strangers who were targeting you.

04:34:25.160 That's insane, right?

04:34:26.520 You were putting out sexual content of yourself.

04:34:29.220 Who here at this table has posted a bikini pic?

04:34:32.600 Oh, yeah.

04:34:34.280 Okay.

04:34:34.780 So we're all asking for it?

04:34:36.940 Because we put sexualized content that's able to be sexualized online?

04:34:40.540 Wait, wait, wait.

04:34:41.220 When you say asking for it.

04:34:42.460 When you say asking for it.

04:34:43.180 There is a risk.

04:34:44.280 Hang on.

04:34:44.800 I'll answer your question.

04:34:45.800 Posted that bikini.

04:34:46.360 Let me just get clarification.

04:34:47.740 I wanted it.

04:34:48.140 When you say asking for it, do you mean asking for negative male attention?

04:34:53.800 Yes.

04:34:54.160 Oh, so women cannot exist online.

04:34:58.440 So women who put on a bikini and then go online and say, look at me, look at me.

04:35:03.640 What they mean is fucking look at me.

04:35:05.540 That's what they mean.

04:35:06.660 Yeah, not assault me.

04:35:08.480 Goddamn.

04:35:08.740 No, I didn't say assault you, but how stupid can you be that you're going to put out sexualized content of yourself and then say, but don't look at me.

04:35:15.580 Don't sexualize me.

04:35:16.160 Nobody's saying that.

04:35:17.200 That's insane.

04:35:17.320 I'm not putting out sexualized content and saying, don't sexualize me.

04:35:21.080 Yeah, but that's my whole point is that that's going to draw in that crowd of men if you sexualize yourself, put that content out there, whereas ordinarily women do not have to deal with that.

04:35:30.480 So do you think that...

04:35:31.340 They're not doing that.

04:35:32.520 There's, in other words, women who have Instagrams full of them with sundresses and they don't have any type of sexually provocative content out there, they're not going to be targeted by those same types of men.

04:35:41.500 You can see how many people save your Instagram photos and even photos where you're wearing a sundress get saved.

04:35:47.680 And we all know what they're doing with those photos.

04:35:49.640 Right.

04:35:49.960 Yeah, maybe so, but the additional frequency is not going to be there.

04:35:54.120 We know what Brian's doing with those photos.

04:35:55.160 Like it would with people who are sexually provocative.

04:36:01.340 How could they be?

04:36:03.740 How could they be?

04:36:04.580 I mean, you don't hear these stories from other women who have these clean Instagrams that creepos are just targeting them nonstop.

04:36:10.540 You just don't hear them.

04:36:11.480 You hear them from mostly OnlyFans girls and women who release sexually provocative photos of themselves.

04:36:17.060 That's where you hear it the most.

04:36:21.460 I mean...

04:36:22.260 For sure?

04:36:23.240 For sure?

04:36:24.020 I hear what you're saying, but I don't really think there's...

04:36:26.220 Anyways, moving on.

04:36:26.680 Moving on.

04:36:26.980 Okay.

04:36:27.780 Let's get into some of the pre-show notes here.

04:36:29.620 We have...

04:36:30.460 I'm sorry.

04:36:31.780 Noir?

04:36:33.700 Noir?

04:36:34.440 Wait, that's your name, right?

04:36:36.060 Morgan?

04:36:36.860 Who's Noir?

04:36:37.840 We have Noir?

04:36:38.760 Oh, that's her Instagram.

04:36:39.660 That's your Instagram.

04:36:41.040 That's why they have you here.

04:36:42.480 Okay, you said crazy is probably being your first relationship.

04:36:47.380 Won't mention that, but he was a drug dealer who's gang affiliated.

04:36:50.880 Yes.

04:36:51.280 Wait, is that the one who Alpha widowed?

04:36:54.140 No, no, no.

04:36:56.280 Okay.

04:36:56.600 But you were dating a drug dealer who was...

04:37:00.460 Yes.

04:37:01.100 Was it the Italian mafia?

04:37:03.120 Which gang?

04:37:04.780 I don't know if I should say that, but I was 16 and he was 20.

04:37:10.760 And that ultimately led me down a not so great path because I was basically...

04:37:20.400 Had a free supply of what he was dealing.

04:37:24.520 What was he dealing?

04:37:26.340 Drugs.

04:37:27.540 Hard stuff.

04:37:28.120 Yeah, no, no, really.

04:37:29.420 Drugs?

04:37:29.900 I didn't know.

04:37:30.580 What kind of drugs specifically?

04:37:33.840 I'll say opioids.

04:37:35.740 Oh, heroin?

04:37:39.460 Yeah, heroin.

04:37:40.520 Was it...

04:37:40.780 She's trying not to share.

04:37:43.200 No, I mean...

04:37:43.660 This is a safe space.

04:37:45.520 Oh, yeah.

04:37:46.080 Yes.

04:37:47.080 Yes.

04:37:47.680 And then my family ended up...

04:37:50.180 My family ended up getting a restraining order against him, so...

04:37:53.000 Oh, shit.

04:37:53.960 Oh, yeah.

04:37:54.880 Sorry, you had to...

04:37:55.800 Damn.

04:37:56.200 No, no.

04:37:56.820 I mean, I'm not, like, hurt by it or anything, but it was, like...

04:38:00.360 Okay.

04:38:01.080 That sucks.

04:38:01.420 All right.

04:38:02.320 You wanted to hit on...

04:38:05.720 The career-based topic that gets brought up on why women who...

04:38:10.880 Oh, okay.

04:38:11.440 We'll skip that one.

04:38:12.600 Oh, actually, well, you...

04:38:13.780 Maybe really quick.

04:38:15.220 Hmm.

04:38:15.560 So, you're saying how women who specifically do sex work, not finding their career red flag,

04:38:24.780 but they find men who are police officers, military, or in politics, that type of a career is a red flag to them.

04:38:32.560 Correct.

04:38:32.800 Did you want to talk more on that?

04:38:34.220 I mean, I don't know if there's really too much to talk on that.

04:38:38.140 It was just I had noticed on a few of your podcasts previously that had got brought up and that women would say that they didn't view their job as a red flag,

04:38:46.140 but then you would kind of counteract that with asking if they would date those type of men, and they said no because they found it to be a red flag,

04:38:54.220 and I just find that fairly hypocritical.

04:38:58.520 Hmm.

04:38:58.900 Okay.

04:38:59.760 Now, you also...

04:39:01.960 Wait, wait.

04:39:02.540 Wait, let's...

04:39:03.000 I'm sorry.

04:39:03.200 Can you say that again?

04:39:04.600 I just want to make sure I got it correct here on my notes.

04:39:07.240 Which part?

04:39:08.640 So, which part did you find hypocritical?

04:39:10.780 Basically, just the fact that they think what they do wouldn't be considered a red flag to a man wanting to...

04:39:18.600 How do I word it?

04:39:19.960 Like, that they don't think their job is a red flag, and that they basically don't understand why men would find it a red flag,

04:39:29.860 but yet they think that men in those jobs are a red flag.

04:39:33.680 I find that hypocritical.

04:39:35.600 I see.

04:39:36.440 Okay.

04:39:38.120 You also mentioned anytime you've attempted to use dating apps in the past, it's been a horrible, weird experience.

04:39:45.040 One guy asked me to wax his back the first day.

04:39:51.740 Maybe he just needed help and didn't have anyone else to go to.

04:39:55.020 I can't read it.

04:39:56.240 So, tell us the back waxing story first.

04:39:59.860 Um, okay.

04:40:02.200 I mean, also, there's not too, too much to deep dive into that one.

04:40:06.360 Basically, met him on Tinder, and we planned a, like, we were, it was basically like a barbecue at his house with, like, his roommates and stuff, and that was fine.

04:40:17.480 And then he asked me if I would be willing to wax and pluck his back.

04:40:22.420 Did you do it?

04:40:23.520 I did do it.

04:40:25.560 That's the biggest...

04:40:26.440 How hairy was he?

04:40:28.000 Yes!

04:40:28.380 Was he a bear?

04:40:29.860 That's a ride or die, bro.

04:40:32.000 Like, I give you props for that.

04:40:34.100 First date, she's already grooming.

04:40:35.340 She's in the trenches.

04:40:36.520 Did you hang out with him again?

04:40:37.680 Wait, you waxed his back?

04:40:39.240 I waxed it and plucked it.

04:40:40.980 And was that the deal breaker, or was that other shit?

04:40:42.940 Oh, my God.

04:40:43.560 No.

04:40:46.000 Ultimately, he really just wasn't my type.

04:40:47.660 He was kind of a meathead.

04:40:48.440 Oh, so he's, like, he was jacked.

04:40:52.180 Yeah, he was, he was, like, one of those, like, no-neckers.

04:40:55.100 Oh.

04:40:55.280 He was a no-necker.

04:40:57.340 Once you go no-neck, you never go.

04:40:59.660 When they're so, like...

04:41:00.640 When they're so buff, like, they barely have a neck.

04:41:03.900 It's their, like, trap muscles, like, get, like, really big, and they kind of, like, connect.

04:41:08.020 It's just the head coming out of the torso.

04:41:09.960 Yeah.

04:41:10.780 So, okay.

04:41:14.640 It's pretty ride or die, though.

04:41:15.940 I mean, she's first date, and she's going.

04:41:17.820 If, like, if everything else was chill, but the only, like, kind of odd thing was he wanted you to wax and pluck, like, it would have, it would have been on, right?

04:41:26.640 Possibly.

04:41:27.040 Like, that wasn't the deal breaker.

04:41:28.300 No, that was not the deal breaker.

04:41:29.500 She's still waiting.

04:41:30.020 I just found it really weird to ask somebody that on a first date.

04:41:33.240 She's got the confidence.

04:41:35.360 Did y'all, after the wax, did y'all?

04:41:37.440 No, no, no.

04:41:38.740 There wasn't any?

04:41:40.240 No, no.

04:41:40.740 Before the wax?

04:41:41.420 No.

04:41:42.060 Not at all, ever.

04:41:43.260 Not, okay, okay.

04:41:44.380 All right.

04:41:45.780 That's interesting.

04:41:47.340 Did you, was it, like, that scene in The 40-Year-Old Virgin where he's laid out on a table and, like, or is he, like, he was a pro?

04:41:53.380 No, he was standing up, and.

04:41:54.980 Like, he took that shit like a man.

04:41:56.460 We just, I started with the, like, the waxing strips, you know, that you, like, put on, did that, and then the little strayaways that I didn't get, I plucked out.

04:42:05.900 Beautiful.

04:42:07.240 Ladies, would you, you know, you meet a new guy, you like him, he's good, would you do a little plucking, waxing for him, first date?

04:42:15.560 Sure, why not?

04:42:16.460 If I liked him.

04:42:17.460 Maybe not a random guy on Tinder, but.

04:42:19.140 I would wax his eyebrows.

04:42:20.340 I'm also a little weird with stuff like that, though, because, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't necessarily do what I'm about to say on a first date, but, like, when I've dated guys, if they ever have, like, pimples and stuff like that, I'd love to pop them.

04:42:31.120 Interesting.

04:42:31.540 Yeah.

04:42:31.720 I dated a girl who had triggers.

04:42:34.280 Was his name Wes, by chance?

04:42:36.980 What?

04:42:37.240 Huh?

04:42:37.940 Honestly, I don't even remember what his name was.

04:42:40.040 This was a while ago, and I never, I wasn't very avid on dating apps ever.

04:42:44.260 I would, like, randomly, like, hop on, and I'd be like, yeah, this, this is why I'm not on it.

04:42:47.780 Gotcha.

04:42:48.560 Okay.

04:42:49.180 Thank you.

04:42:50.800 Good times.

04:42:51.460 Uh, okay.

04:42:52.140 And then you also said you dated a guy who was batshit crazy, he started emailing you when you blocked him, and then showed up at your work.

04:42:59.860 Yes, but, I mean, we weren't dating either, he was.

04:43:03.300 Like, you went on one date or something.

04:43:04.760 Yeah, we went on one date, um, and the date was actually pretty good, but I wasn't, like, really sure if I saw any potential there, and he kept blowing me up, like, nonstop, and I tried to, as nicely as I could, be like, you are kind of doing too much.

04:43:22.140 And it's kind of turning me off.

04:43:24.840 Um, and then I made a comment, because he got really, really mad when I said that, like, you don't know who you're fucking with, like, I can ruin your whole life.

04:43:32.560 And I was like, dude, you're 35, like, act your age.

04:43:36.920 He's like, oh, now you want to throw low blows?

04:43:39.160 I'm like, I guess if you're offended by being called your age.

04:43:43.580 And then I ended up ultimately blocking him, because he would not leave me alone.

04:43:47.420 And he knew where I was working at the time, because I had got brought up.

04:43:50.860 So he ended up showing up and had to be escorted out of school.

04:43:55.360 Good times.

04:43:57.140 Good times.

04:43:58.560 He was also a meathead.

04:44:00.380 Oh, okay.

04:44:02.100 Moving on to our dear friend.

04:44:04.060 Did you say he was a narcissist?

04:44:05.600 Ben donated $69.

04:44:07.200 I'm sorry, Andrew, but I believe you have the wrong view of Protestants.

04:44:13.200 I'm a Baptist, and my absolute authority lies with Christ alone and the millions of manuscripts.

04:44:19.460 I believe orthodoxy is wrong.

04:44:21.700 Quick response to this, if you can.

04:44:23.000 Then come debate me on it.

04:44:23.940 So that aside, or debate with Jay Dyer and many of the great ortho apologists who are out there.

04:44:29.760 But that aside, would you consider this guy you were with, a narcissist?

04:44:35.740 Oh, the second guy?

04:44:37.500 Yeah.

04:44:38.320 No, not necessarily.

04:44:39.440 I would have cereal donated $69.

04:44:42.440 Can you wax a bear silhouette on my back?

04:44:44.980 Then maybe in the morning, make some bear-shaped pancakes.

04:44:49.120 We can paint wilderness views with bear families or tell fairy tales of Goldilocks by the fire.

04:44:54.720 I would absolutely do that, and I would even fold your laundry in a bear-shaped basket.

04:45:00.280 And then bow.

04:45:00.960 And then bow.

04:45:04.560 Nice.

04:45:05.900 Very nice.

04:45:06.700 Moving on to our good friend here, Natalia.

04:45:11.500 It's Natalia, right?

04:45:13.380 Yep.

04:45:13.700 Okay.

04:45:14.520 All right.

04:45:15.440 So you said in your pre-show notes here, well, let's see.

04:45:18.360 By the way, you're pretty big on YouTube.

04:45:22.340 You have a really big YouTube channel.

04:45:24.480 2.2 million subscribers.

04:45:25.980 Wow.

04:45:27.180 Well, congratulations for...

04:45:29.080 Okay, that's not true.

04:45:31.880 But you kind of stopped, right?

04:45:34.000 A little bit on the YouTube thing?

04:45:35.380 I still upload, but it's not what I focus on anymore.

04:45:39.640 It's not your main thing anymore.

04:45:40.700 I do it for fun here and there.

04:45:42.600 Funsies.

04:45:43.000 For the memes.

04:45:43.220 What kind of videos do you post?

04:45:45.480 Is it modeling-related?

04:45:45.840 Today, I do mostly vlogs.

04:45:47.760 Okay.

04:45:48.200 Yeah.

04:45:49.440 Good shit.

04:45:50.320 Cute.

04:45:50.600 Good shit.

04:45:52.360 Now, in your pre-show notes, you said that I was an addict.

04:45:56.600 My husband was a drug dealer until we found God.

04:46:01.200 Yep.

04:46:02.220 That's true.

04:46:02.700 It's kind of similar.

04:46:03.680 Only mine didn't find God.

04:46:06.280 He found prison.

04:46:07.440 Oh.

04:46:08.540 Wait.

04:46:09.120 There it is.

04:46:09.420 What kind of addiction?

04:46:13.360 So, I was addicted to weed, cocaine, molly, and hallucinogens.

04:46:19.440 So, I was doing all sorts of hallucinogens.

04:46:22.320 I'm very open about it.

04:46:23.320 I've talked about it on my YouTube channel, even.

04:46:25.820 Just to be clear, my husband, when he was dealing, we weren't together.

04:46:32.340 So, we both, basically, he got arrested and I actually, like, separately, that happened.

04:46:41.160 So, he got arrested.

04:46:42.860 I went into a psychosis because of all the hallucinogens that I did.

04:46:47.580 So, I was in a full-blown psychosis for over a year.

04:46:51.600 And, I...

04:46:53.240 What is this?

04:46:54.120 When you say psychosis, do you mean you were locked up in, like, a mental institution?

04:46:58.380 No.

04:46:59.460 I was barely functioning, but thankfully, my family helped me.

04:47:03.740 And, I was working part-time and doing the best that I could.

04:47:07.760 And, I actually had, like, a boss that I had to stop YouTube, basically, because I couldn't even remember how to work my camera because it got so bad.

04:47:17.020 I couldn't edit my videos anymore.

04:47:18.460 I couldn't work my camera.

04:47:19.340 I didn't, like, couldn't function.

04:47:22.020 I couldn't make proper sentences.

04:47:24.200 My family let me move back in with them and they basically, like, helped me.

04:47:28.580 I was going to really intense therapy.

04:47:31.280 And so, I started working part-time at this clothing store, just folding clothes.

04:47:36.720 And so, I went from being, like, really big on YouTube to, like, literally psychosis working part-time at the mall, like, folding clothes.

04:47:44.820 And I could barely do that without having a mental breakdown.

04:47:47.600 So, I'm just, you don't, if you don't mind if I ask a few questions here.

04:47:53.060 When you say you went into psychosis, was this due to the fact that you were kicking these addictions?

04:47:58.780 No, it was actually, I entered into this state of psychosis because of the drugs that I did.

04:48:03.620 You mean, you think that the drugs created X amount of damage and so you were dealing with the damage that the drugs had on you?

04:48:13.060 Yes.

04:48:14.140 Okay.

04:48:14.740 So, it wasn't recovery from addiction, but you, like, basically fried your brain with psychedelics is what you're saying, essentially?

04:48:22.520 Yeah.

04:48:22.900 Right?

04:48:23.620 Okay.

04:48:24.280 And when you were on those psychedelics, did you receive any visions from God?

04:48:27.460 Um, I'm always hesitant to talk about that just because, like, yes and no.

04:48:38.260 I want to say, like, I, my personal beliefs are that drugs, like, are bad.

04:48:43.060 You shouldn't do drugs.

04:48:44.840 I don't condone doing drugs, especially things that can change your brain chemistry, especially if you're predisposed to mental illness.

04:48:53.800 Like, I am, like, my father had schizophrenia, so it was just a...

04:48:57.240 Yeah, sure, sure, I agree.

04:48:58.780 Drug bad, terrible.

04:48:59.820 It was a bad mix, but I, um, you know...

04:49:03.300 I'm just curious, did you receive messages from God when you were on the psychedelics?

04:49:08.100 Um, no, not necessarily.

04:49:10.240 I was searching for God while I was doing them.

04:49:13.880 Gotcha.

04:49:14.480 All right.

04:49:15.160 So, I'm not asking the question to be tongue-in-cheek.

04:49:18.740 I'm actually genuinely curious.

04:49:20.260 Yeah.

04:49:20.400 If you think you were receiving messaging when you were on, because there are people who take DMT and things like this, see the DMT elves, right?

04:49:27.020 They see the, uh, it basically lowers your inhibitions, and so it's often been postulated that the demonic can attack through that, right?

04:49:34.360 Yeah.

04:49:34.600 Do you agree that that's true?

04:49:35.700 And I personally, I personally am open about this.

04:49:38.200 I believe that all hallucinogens are witchcraft, and I believe that, like, anything that has to do with that is...

04:49:44.680 So you were a witch?

04:49:46.860 You were a witch?

04:49:47.780 Not knowingly, but I was pursuing God through those means, because I didn't know any better.

04:49:53.120 I didn't have an open enough heart to, like, the traditional form of God, which is what, you know, we all hear about, because I thought that was just religion.

04:50:03.680 All I knew was the rituals, and all I knew were Christians that had just given God a bad name for me.

04:50:09.160 So I was closed off.

04:50:10.600 I didn't want to pursue that route to truth.

04:50:13.080 I wanted to do something that felt more personal, because that didn't feel personal to me.

04:50:17.820 No Christian ever told me, like, God loves you, and I love you.

04:50:22.040 Like, I'd never had that experience.

04:50:23.540 So you became a basket case.

04:50:25.820 I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut off your, like, your testimony.

04:50:29.240 I'm just trying to move the conversation.

04:50:31.000 Basket case, okay.

04:50:31.660 Because we have to, so.

04:50:33.200 But, yeah.

04:50:34.740 Yeah, so, so you go through, you go through, right, you, you're suffering from this psychosis.

04:50:40.660 Your husband is a drug dealer.

04:50:42.960 And we hadn't, we hadn't, didn't start dating yet, so.

04:50:46.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.

04:50:47.240 During the same time.

04:50:47.740 So this is all unbeknownst to you?

04:50:50.400 Unbeknownst to me that he was dealing?

04:50:53.080 Mm-hmm.

04:50:53.840 Yeah, so.

04:50:54.300 Yeah, because you didn't even know him, right?

04:50:55.320 So he got arrested, and he actually had multiple felony charges, and he was going through court, and he got hit with.

04:51:03.780 Wait, tilt your mic down just a bit.

04:51:05.600 Okay.

04:51:06.400 Tilt it down.

04:51:07.900 Go ahead.

04:51:08.540 Yep.

04:51:09.300 So he was facing potential prison time for, and I don't want to go into detail because I asked him, and he's okay to be sharing this story.

04:51:17.720 Yeah, yeah, sure, that's no problem.

04:51:17.740 You don't have to.

04:51:18.440 But, yeah, he was facing prison time, and he ended up getting, like,

04:51:25.320 all of it basically expunged just so he could take this recovery class.

04:51:30.280 It's, like, a class that's offered in my home state where it's, if it's your first time, like, with a major offense as an adult, and you're facing.

04:51:38.700 Is that where you met him?

04:51:40.880 Yeah, I met my husband in high school before we actually started dating in adulthood.

04:51:45.240 So I met him in high school.

04:51:48.040 Yeah.

04:51:48.180 Okay.

04:51:49.180 So how did you guys end up linking up after the psychosis in his prison, you know, his.

04:51:53.800 When I was in my recovery and he was on probation taking his classes for recovery, that's when we reconnected via social media.

04:52:03.200 We were friends on Facebook, and I remembered back when I met him in high school, and I was like, oh, he was actually the only guy that was actually nice to me

04:52:10.420 because he brought me flowers in high school and put them on my car and stuff.

04:52:14.780 So I was like, I'm going to reach out to him and give him a shot, even though he's not really my type.

04:52:20.640 You know, he was going through a lot.

04:52:21.940 And, yeah, when we connected and I came over to his house for the very first time, I heard God say, this is your husband.

04:52:29.600 I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $69.

04:52:33.260 He's strong, handsome, witty, smart, and PP is veiny and oh so yummy.

04:52:38.960 He brings you back to his place for the first time next to his bed.

04:52:43.880 Fully loaded AR-15 with 30 Road Magazine.

04:52:47.380 Your reaction?

04:52:47.980 Yo, good to see you in the chat, man.

04:52:49.720 So we'll go around the table on this.

04:52:51.180 Your reaction?

04:52:53.040 Question mark?

04:52:55.220 I don't even know what that said.

04:52:57.880 I don't even know what that said.

04:52:58.500 It says if you were with a stud and he took you back to his place and he happened to have an AR-15, which was there next to his bed, what would your reaction to that be?

04:53:09.760 First time, back to his place.

04:53:11.680 Leave?

04:53:12.240 Yeah, I don't think so.

04:53:13.500 We'll go around the table.

04:53:15.780 He's strong, handsome, witty, smart.

04:53:18.160 Big PP, apparently.

04:53:19.780 Veiny PP, that's what the fuck.

04:53:21.140 This is what he's saying.

04:53:22.800 He's yummy.

04:53:24.720 Brings you back to his place for the first time next to his bed.

04:53:27.020 Fully loaded AR-15 with 30 Round Magazine.

04:53:29.760 Your reaction?

04:53:30.960 So you said leave.

04:53:32.720 What about you?

04:53:33.240 I would think that's a safe home to be in.

04:53:36.800 Well, that it's like out and loaded like next to the bed.

04:53:40.980 Like, that's not good gun safety to just leave it like that.

04:53:44.760 How do you know?

04:53:45.400 Have you ever even shot a gun?

04:53:47.520 Yeah, I don't have problems with guns or being with guys who have guns.

04:53:50.840 Yeah, I know.

04:53:51.380 That's my economic point.

04:53:52.300 Have you ever even shot a gun?

04:53:53.500 Have I shot a gun?

04:53:54.280 Yeah.

04:53:55.240 Yeah.

04:53:55.620 Have you ever shot an AR-15?

04:53:57.120 No.

04:53:58.240 How do you know what makes it safe or not safe?

04:54:00.080 Well, any gun shouldn't just be like loaded like out next year.

04:54:05.720 Yeah, well, that's where you want them, right?

04:54:07.460 You don't want them next year.

04:54:08.720 They're not very useful if you can't get at them, right?

04:54:11.680 You want to get to it quick.

04:54:13.880 That's true.

04:54:15.180 I don't want to go downstairs when a burger is coming in and open up my safe and then,

04:54:20.320 you know, pull out, you know, try to load it.

04:54:22.320 That's insane, right?

04:54:23.340 Don't I want it loaded next to me?

04:54:25.100 As long as it's locked and safe.

04:54:27.540 It has a lock on it.

04:54:28.600 Well, why do you want it locked?

04:54:29.660 Mine doesn't have a lock on it.

04:54:31.540 Yeah, you don't want a lock.

04:54:33.620 Yeah, like on the gun.

04:54:34.980 On the gun.

04:54:35.720 You can also put a lock on the trigger, I believe.

04:54:39.380 Yeah, you can.

04:54:40.080 But why would you want a lock around the trigger?

04:54:42.280 Why would you want to have to unlock the gun?

04:54:43.980 I'm not saying you have to, but it can be sitting there and still be technically locked

04:54:47.680 up, if that makes any sense.

04:54:49.640 Yeah, but why do you need it locked up is my question.

04:54:53.100 Hold on.

04:54:53.620 Go ahead.

04:54:54.100 You can answer.

04:54:55.320 Well, I mean, if you're practicing gun safety, if there was like someone that comes into

04:54:59.040 your house, essentially anyone can use the weapon if it's not locked.

04:55:02.820 Yeah, but so.

04:55:06.080 Yeah, he don't know me.

04:55:07.320 It's at night, the gun's next to the bed, right?

04:55:11.580 So he's going to use the gun.

04:55:13.240 He's going to use the gun to defend himself.

04:55:15.000 That's the whole point, right?

04:55:17.880 Yeah.

04:55:18.200 So, I mean, it's not unsafe to have a gun that's not locked up.

04:55:22.180 A gun can't get up and use itself, right?

04:55:25.580 The point is that it can still be safe and have a lock on it, I guess, is all I'm saying.

04:55:30.480 I would probably just ask a lot of questions.

04:55:32.700 You know, like, are you trained to use this?

04:55:35.480 Like, do you have a license?

04:55:36.300 Like, do you have any criminal charges?

04:55:39.080 Like, something like where you shouldn't own a gun, et cetera?

04:55:42.280 No.

04:55:42.920 He has a clean criminal record, and he just picked it up at the local Walmart, and he

04:55:47.680 doesn't even know hardly how to use it.

04:55:50.780 But he just has it there, and he thinks it's awesome.

04:55:54.900 No.

04:55:56.000 Boneheaded.

04:55:56.320 I would definitely, like, make a note of that mentally.

04:55:58.620 I don't know if I'd want to stay the night or anything if I didn't really know him.

04:56:01.580 Okay, that was for her.

04:56:02.340 Your answer to the original.

04:56:03.320 I would run away so that I don't start sinning.

04:56:08.540 Wait.

04:56:08.980 What?

04:56:09.340 Because she finds it attractive.

04:56:11.180 I think it's a good thing.

04:56:13.200 Not a good thing.

04:56:15.120 She'd fuck him.

04:56:16.000 No, I wouldn't.

04:56:16.740 I'd have to run.

04:56:17.740 She's like, no.

04:56:19.020 I would be more attracted.

04:56:21.560 I wouldn't mind.

04:56:22.920 All right.

04:56:24.160 Okay, going back to this really quick, I do need, I have a lot of notes I do need to

04:56:27.560 get through here.

04:56:28.280 So, just to be clear, so your first date with your now husband, it was six years, six years

04:56:32.940 ago, how old, seven years ago?

04:56:34.140 It's like seven years ago.

04:56:35.040 Seven years ago.

04:56:36.020 You were battling psychosis and he was still on probation.

04:56:39.900 So, that was the first date.

04:56:41.180 Is that correct?

04:56:42.020 Okay.

04:56:42.420 Yeah.

04:56:42.780 All right.

04:56:43.980 And let's see.

04:56:45.640 And I'm fully recovered from my psychosis now.

04:56:48.420 I'm fully functioning in it.

04:56:50.220 And I'm actually, like, really blessed because a lot of people never recover from drug-induced

04:56:54.900 psychosis.

04:56:55.640 They're actually institutionalized.

04:56:57.640 Minnesota wise man donated $69.

04:57:01.380 Just tuned in, heard Minnie's MF and voice and puked in mouth.

04:57:06.000 Here's $69 for anyone to pick a fight with her dumbass.

04:57:10.260 I need a good laugh.

04:57:11.640 I'm out of rocks after putting grammar to sleep.

04:57:14.360 Two hearts, you guys.

04:57:16.660 Hashtag got wolves.

04:57:19.160 Thank you.

04:57:19.840 Now, did you recover from psychosis or are you going to do a YouTube content again?

04:57:22.840 $107 donated $69.

04:57:25.740 Question for the Corn Stars.

04:57:28.000 If an EMP shut down the online delivery of corn for an extended period of time beyond

04:57:33.280 your funds or it was outlawed and enforced, what would your backup plan be?

04:57:38.360 That's a good question.

04:57:39.460 You want to go first?

04:57:41.580 Uh.

04:57:43.580 I mean, there's other.

04:57:44.980 Wait, hold on.

04:57:45.220 There's other.

04:57:45.720 Maddie actually whispered into my ear.

04:57:48.180 Just leaned over, whispered into my ear.

04:57:50.160 And she told me she wants to pick a fight with you.

04:57:53.520 Oh, my God.

04:57:54.040 To a split neck.

04:57:54.880 You know, I would just never wear what you're wearing.

04:57:58.360 What?

04:57:59.040 Okay.

04:57:59.780 What's wrong with that?

04:58:01.000 She's picking a fight.

04:58:01.960 That blue shirt.

04:58:03.240 That blue shirt.

04:58:04.460 I wouldn't wear what you're wearing.

04:58:06.260 You're just going to let her say that to you?

04:58:09.380 I hate the color blue and it looks terrible on you.

04:58:13.840 It would look worse on you.

04:58:16.460 Sorry, what?

04:58:17.280 I said it would look worse on you.

04:58:18.960 Really?

04:58:19.720 I don't think blue's your color.

04:58:21.200 Why is there only one strand of pink in your hair?

04:58:23.500 Because they're cheap-ass flippants.

04:58:26.820 I don't want to do this.

04:58:28.060 Fire back.

04:58:28.680 Fire back.

04:58:30.240 You're too sweet.

04:58:31.340 You're not invited to her birthday party.

04:58:32.700 You are not invited to her birthday party.

04:58:35.120 You dumb.

04:58:37.340 Whoa.

04:58:38.360 What were you about to say to Madison?

04:58:40.580 Nothing.

04:58:41.380 That wasn't me.

04:58:42.740 What do you mean?

04:58:43.500 I didn't say that.

04:58:44.920 That was her.

04:58:45.420 Oh, no, I know.

04:58:46.060 She was about to say something.

04:58:47.340 Oh, are you just trying to like...

04:58:49.660 No, I can't.

04:58:51.000 I can't be mean back to you.

04:58:52.300 I actually like her.

04:58:53.240 She's nice.

04:58:55.060 I don't know.

04:58:55.660 This guy, he wants...

04:58:56.260 If it was someone I didn't like, I...

04:58:56.760 The guy from Minnesota.

04:58:58.220 The guy from Minnesota.

04:59:00.300 Minnesota.

04:59:00.660 He wants somebody to beef with you, I guess.

04:59:04.720 Where's this?

04:59:05.040 So are you going to make YouTube content again, do you think?

04:59:08.520 I still do.

04:59:09.680 Yeah.

04:59:10.160 I just...

04:59:10.900 It's not my main source of income anymore.

04:59:12.640 Hold on.

04:59:12.960 We didn't even...

04:59:13.580 Just to be fair to the TTSer, Big Sarge, he did send in...

04:59:18.220 The question for the corn star is if an EMP shut down the online delivery of corn for

04:59:22.080 an extended period of time beyond your funds or was outlawed.

04:59:26.940 I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $69.

04:59:30.720 We'll come back to that one.

04:59:31.260 You're on a hike.

04:59:32.380 Fork in the road.

04:59:33.840 100 yards down each path, you see the following.

04:59:37.360 First path.

04:59:38.720 Mom, a grizzly bear with her cutie little cubs.

04:59:41.820 Second path, a man with a hunting rifle.

04:59:44.540 Which path?

04:59:45.180 Definitely the man.

04:59:47.600 Here, let's just start over here.

04:59:49.940 Hi.

04:59:52.400 Are we...

04:59:52.920 So this is the corn question or is this this question?

04:59:55.760 No, the one that just came up.

04:59:56.900 We're coming back to the corn question.

04:59:58.200 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

04:59:59.740 The one that we just heard.

05:00:01.040 Mama bear and...

05:00:01.920 The high corn.

05:00:02.560 Mama bear or a hunting man.

05:00:03.880 The man with the rifle.

05:00:05.460 I think I would turn around and just walk in the direction it came.

05:00:10.260 Yeah, but you had to choose one.

05:00:12.300 But you said I was walking down a path and there was a fork in the road.

05:00:15.380 Yeah, so that would be an indication of two choices.

05:00:18.360 So you have these two choices.

05:00:20.120 The one is that you can go down the path on the right with a hunting rifle.

05:00:22.860 Technically, there is a third choice, which is turning around.

05:00:26.120 Yeah, I know, but there's no third choice.

05:00:27.900 Just have to pick one of the two.

05:00:29.580 Like, that's the confines of the hypothetical.

05:00:31.240 I guess the rifle.

05:00:32.140 The rifle.

05:00:33.700 Okay.

05:00:34.000 Yeah, the man with the rifle.

05:00:35.740 I want to get between...

05:00:36.760 See, here it is.

05:00:37.940 Bears are predictable and you should not get between them and their babies because I can

05:00:42.240 predict that they will lose their shit.

05:00:44.920 Yeah.

05:00:45.220 Interesting.

05:00:46.260 Yeah, same for me.

05:00:46.900 When they have their kids, they're like, they want to protect them.

05:00:49.760 So it's different.

05:00:50.940 Hunter with the rifle.

05:00:52.160 Hunter with the rifle.

05:00:53.620 Man.

05:00:55.700 Fashizel.

05:00:56.140 And then Big Sarge, EMP, shuts down the internet, I guess.

05:01:02.240 What would your backup plan be for you two?

05:01:04.440 I'd go back to the strip club.

05:01:07.060 I love the strip club.

05:01:10.660 All right.

05:01:11.520 Okay.

05:01:12.280 That also.

05:01:13.480 And then also...

05:01:14.580 Are you a stripper?

05:01:15.640 I'm like employed at 11 Miami and in Vegas, but I don't do it much at all.

05:01:19.420 It's just kind of like in case I ever needed to fall back on that, actually.

05:01:23.400 Plan B.

05:01:24.280 Yeah, so there's that.

05:01:25.240 But that wasn't my first thought, but also same.

05:01:27.560 I would...

05:01:28.780 Like I still do...

05:01:29.600 Like I don't make much money from YouTube anymore, but I still do have that.

05:01:32.320 And I used to do Patreon, but I also have my college degree.

05:01:34.940 And I'm not like above getting just like a normal job.

05:01:37.960 What's your degree in?

05:01:38.980 Communications.

05:01:39.620 And I was a minor in public banking.

05:01:41.540 Ooh, calm.

05:01:42.240 John Slide Rule Bully donated $69.

05:01:46.000 Woot, woot.

05:01:46.720 No, thank you.

05:01:47.180 First TTS.

05:01:48.380 Appreciate it, man.

05:01:49.020 Thank you.

05:01:49.400 Panel, if you would like to show appreciation to Andrew,

05:01:52.620 send him Domino gift cards for pineapple and ham pizzas.

05:01:57.080 Great show, Brian.

05:01:58.700 Shout out to Andrew and the Crucible Nation.

05:02:01.960 Yo, thank you, man.

05:02:02.620 Appreciate it.

05:02:03.140 Thank you, John.

05:02:04.000 Thank you.

05:02:04.520 Thank you.

05:02:05.400 But to add, you guys are so smart and kind.

05:02:09.380 Like, don't you think...

05:02:10.240 Is there anything that you would want?

05:02:11.820 No, it's true.

05:02:12.760 Erroneous!

05:02:13.200 Is there anything that I would get a normal job?

05:02:14.980 I love working with animals, like especially.

05:02:17.200 Like, I feel like I could do something with that.

05:02:19.460 I'm like really into like psychology.

05:02:21.300 Like, I wouldn't be opposed to just going back to school

05:02:23.360 and like getting a degree in something else.

05:02:25.080 Oh my God.

05:02:25.780 Who the hell cares?

05:02:28.560 You guys...

05:02:29.120 Someone asked.

05:02:29.780 Yeah.

05:02:30.780 That was Nick.

05:02:31.320 I don't feel like sex work is my only option is if that was the question.

05:02:35.200 I don't feel like that at all.

05:02:36.880 I've heard a lot of like former sex workers say that it's because of the money

05:02:41.040 that they feel like they can't leave.

05:02:42.620 Do you guys feel the same way?

05:02:43.880 Like, that's really the only thing is that you're making that much money.

05:02:46.800 Of course it's for the money.

05:02:48.020 I think it's the freedom as well.

05:02:50.040 Honestly.

05:02:50.620 What freedom?

05:02:51.280 I can work from anywhere in the world.

05:02:53.240 I get to make my own schedule.

05:02:54.800 Yeah.

05:02:54.960 Self-employed.

05:02:56.020 Yeah.

05:02:57.400 It's a nice lifestyle.

05:02:58.800 Okay.

05:02:59.140 All right.

05:02:59.500 So the question would be then, if you had the same work, or not the same work, but

05:03:05.060 if you were self-employed and you made the same amount of money doing something with the

05:03:08.020 same amount of effort, but it wasn't sex work, would you do that?

05:03:10.800 It depends what it is.

05:03:12.000 Yeah.

05:03:12.540 I went to art school and...

05:03:13.460 Whatever it is.

05:03:13.880 It has the same amount of effort, but it's not fucking strangers on the internet.

05:03:17.660 Would you prefer to do that or not?

05:03:19.540 Well, I don't fuck strangers on the internet, first of all, for like the 10th time.

05:03:23.220 But second of all, it would depend what it is because I might like it more or less

05:03:27.060 than what I do now.

05:03:27.800 And it would depend on that.

05:03:28.700 Moving on.

05:03:29.200 Moving on.

05:03:29.700 Okay.

05:03:30.680 Do you consider yourself...

05:03:31.860 Did you say you consider yourself traditional?

05:03:33.880 Do you consider yourself traditional or...

05:03:35.680 Traditional what?

05:03:37.820 Traditional.

05:03:38.620 I don't know.

05:03:39.200 Do you identify with that term?

05:03:40.320 Do you consider yourself traditional?

05:03:42.380 I don't know.

05:03:43.120 Oh, okay.

05:03:43.660 All right.

05:03:45.400 Sorry.

05:03:46.860 Let's see.

05:03:47.500 Moving on to Nico.

05:03:48.360 You said you have a few toxic ex-stories and how you caught them cheating.

05:03:52.200 Do you want to share those?

05:03:55.780 Yeah.

05:03:56.360 Quickly.

05:03:56.780 I'll just share my condom cup story.

05:03:59.000 Your what?

05:04:00.160 A PR Aquatic donated $69.

05:04:03.400 So you would go back to a place that pretty much promotes SSA and has a very high risk

05:04:08.060 for it too?

05:04:09.180 This is for Squeaky Toy.

05:04:11.260 Two?

05:04:11.920 Did anybody else hear that?

05:04:13.560 Two?

05:04:14.280 Two?

05:04:14.580 Yeah, I would go back to the strip club.

05:04:19.340 Where did you dance?

05:04:20.700 Upstate, New York.

05:04:21.840 Oh, nice.

05:04:22.320 Yeah.

05:04:22.780 Yeah, yeah.

05:04:23.360 Her condom cup.

05:04:24.160 You guys ready?

05:04:25.080 Okay.

05:04:26.180 This is the ex that was super toxic that was friends with my current boyfriend.

05:04:32.060 We lived together for a brief period of time and then we broke up my first year of college.

05:04:37.060 And we were in the process of breaking up.

05:04:39.720 We weren't quite fully broken up yet, if that makes any sense.

05:04:43.140 If you've been in a long-term relationship and you live with a person, you may understand.

05:04:46.560 But I went home to Palm Springs to visit my dad and he was supposed to watch the house

05:04:54.500 and not bring other people there, specifically women, because he wasn't paying for rent anymore.

05:05:00.380 I was just allowing him to stay there.

05:05:02.480 I came back with one of my friends and I could just tell a woman was there because he was so

05:05:08.560 dumb.

05:05:08.800 He moved my purse into the closet, but the whole house was clearly decorated by a woman.

05:05:14.760 There's flowers and stuff like that.

05:05:16.780 Anyway, he adamantly denies it.

05:05:20.460 He leaves and then I go back into my room, my bed, and there's a cup with a condom wrapper

05:05:26.680 inside of it.

05:05:27.460 Ew, like a red solo?

05:05:28.560 Like what kind of cup?

05:05:29.080 No, it was a little, I still have it.

05:05:31.080 It's just a glass.

05:05:32.540 It's just like an orange glass.

05:05:33.820 Sometimes I drink out of it.

05:05:35.120 And yeah, I still have it.

05:05:36.820 It's like the cursed cup.

05:05:37.820 But I remember my friend and I, we just like completely took off all the sheets, re-put the

05:05:43.300 bed in a different area of the room.

05:05:44.700 Like this did not happen in here.

05:05:45.780 It was just, yeah.

05:05:46.420 Aw.

05:05:47.400 Andrew's enjoying it.

05:05:49.280 Andrew's dying.

05:05:49.880 What a fucking, what a Chad.

05:05:52.160 What a Chad.

05:05:53.100 What can I say?

05:05:54.660 In my bed.

05:05:56.400 Wait, he's so.

05:05:57.140 Fucking Chad.

05:05:58.480 You were dating a guy.

05:06:00.140 In your bed, he slept with another woman.

05:06:02.040 Yes.

05:06:02.440 At least he used a condom.

05:06:04.520 Yeah, but he left it right.

05:06:06.160 At least.

05:06:06.920 Well, I mean, how upset could she be?

05:06:08.700 She kept the cup.

05:06:10.520 It was a set.

05:06:11.660 Okay, the only reason I kept it is because it was a set of four.

05:06:15.080 Oh.

05:06:17.620 That's fair enough.

05:06:18.580 Can't get rid of it then, you know.

05:06:20.300 Exactly.

05:06:20.820 It'd be weirder to just throw one cup away.

05:06:22.680 Yeah.

05:06:23.240 I mean, just because of that.

05:06:24.760 At least it was the wrapper, not like the used condom.

05:06:27.540 Now, you said you also wanted to talk about waiting to have sex and why women should wait

05:06:33.600 to have sex.

05:06:34.880 Did you want to elaborate a bit on that?

05:06:37.860 How long?

05:06:40.380 Yeah, so I think if you're looking for like a serious relationship, I think it's better

05:06:45.160 to wait.

05:06:46.020 I mean, I guess there's no specific time.

05:06:48.640 I would say like at least a month, preferably longer than that.

05:06:53.060 But until you guys have like a solid emotional bond and then moving forward with that, because

05:07:00.040 just from experience, it always sucks to...

05:07:02.800 Killa cereal donated $69.

05:07:06.860 Opportunity to swindle men into giving you money for sexual motive will always exist.

05:07:12.180 What other skills do you currently possess that you could use for another job, no breaks?

05:07:17.320 Your resume says what?

05:07:19.340 You two real quick if you want to answer.

05:07:20.760 Well, Killa, you made a good point that I can always use my swindling skills, as you

05:07:26.440 call them, swindling, to get men to give me money.

05:07:29.820 And I really don't need anything else on my resume, if that is true.

05:07:34.900 You're funny.

05:07:35.380 Yeah, as far as like marketable skills, like honestly, I went to three years of art school

05:07:41.700 and then dropped out.

05:07:43.100 I have some experience in retail and things like that, but...

05:07:46.480 Wait, you went to art school and then you dropped out?

05:07:48.320 I did, because of COVID.

05:07:49.560 Wow, we got a real Hitler on our hands over here.

05:07:51.480 Is that when you went into porn after that?

05:07:53.560 Yeah.

05:07:54.080 Yeah.

05:07:54.600 But I'd been dancing in art school and just, you know...

05:07:57.380 It was just always kind of the lifestyle I wanted.

05:08:00.120 Yeah.

05:08:00.600 So other than sex, no marketable skills?

05:08:05.220 The swindling.

05:08:06.240 Yeah.

05:08:07.100 Yeah, but she says the swindling would also require sex, right?

05:08:10.560 Because she said I would swindle men using my sexuality, right?

05:08:13.680 Yeah, and well, I was saying like...

05:08:15.520 Yeah, so absent anything sexual, what are the skills?

05:08:18.980 I'll always be able to do that, so I'm not worried about having other skills.

05:08:23.600 Yeah, but assuming you couldn't use sexuality, that's the point of the question.

05:08:27.380 Well, she saved enough money, too.

05:08:28.760 I don't think she'd need to work.

05:08:29.840 I've saved a lot of money.

05:08:30.200 I'm very business savvy.

05:08:31.320 I'm very technologically savvy.

05:08:32.800 I run my own, like, live streams and things like that.

05:08:37.400 And Chatterby, I do my own photography, videography, editing.

05:08:40.460 That's great.

05:08:40.660 So if ever, you know, I did want to be in front of the camera, there's so many roles in this

05:08:44.740 industry behind the camera.

05:08:45.140 Your response to the TTS?

05:08:46.500 I do think people, like, underestimate how many, like, the skill set it actually takes to

05:08:49.940 do the job.

05:08:50.400 It's a lot more than just, like, using your body.

05:08:53.080 Yeah.

05:08:53.540 Unfortunately, I wish that's all it took, you know?

05:08:55.500 But I'm more than just a whole.

05:08:57.300 So I have experience, like, before I ever did that with, like, working with children,

05:09:01.720 old people, animals.

05:09:02.940 I also am really good at sales.

05:09:04.640 I feel like I could go into something like high-ticket sales or just, like, I don't know.

05:09:09.140 There's, like, endless things you could do.

05:09:11.740 I don't feel like I'm that limited.

05:09:13.120 Let's go back to this, though.

05:09:14.660 You said women should wait to have sex.

05:09:17.420 You were saying a month at minimum, maybe longer.

05:09:20.660 I mean, it's really kind of up to your own discretion, but I think you're at a good spot

05:09:26.120 when the man is not pressuring you to have sex at that point.

05:09:29.620 I mean, if a man is, for example, going to say, like, oh, if you, you know, if you don't

05:09:33.120 have sex with me, then we're not, like, I'm not going to continue seeing you or whatever.

05:09:37.200 Like, having sex just to shut him up or keep him.

05:09:39.040 Don't you think that's valid, right?

05:09:40.040 Don't you think that's valid?

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05:09:46.060 Thank you, So Flo.

05:09:46.780 Cheaters gone cheat.

05:09:48.420 If you can't stand the heat, stay out the kitchen.

05:09:51.580 Thank you, man.

05:09:51.920 Move on.

05:09:52.660 Plenty of fish in the sea.

05:09:54.420 Stay off the knees and expect chivalry from these.

05:09:57.800 Boys to men, foes and friends.

05:10:00.080 Oh, some Shakespeare from So Flo Shakespeare.

05:10:03.000 Didn't you say that you're a Christian?

05:10:05.080 So why would you tell girls to just wait at least a month before having sex?

05:10:09.040 with somebody.

05:10:10.020 Well, not everyone is going to.

05:10:12.080 Oh.

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05:10:18.660 Love it.

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05:10:21.200 Public shaming and embarrassment in any way.

05:10:23.860 Perfect way to cancel the next wave of MF and degeneracy.

05:10:27.760 It's the humane thing to do.

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05:10:38.140 For all your recommendations, I leave you with this.

05:10:42.000 Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky.

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05:10:48.500 Sleep well, panel.

05:10:50.340 Good night.

05:10:51.340 Yo, good night.

05:10:52.120 Thank you so much for all the super chats, man.

05:10:54.120 Appreciate it.

05:10:54.940 Thank you, man.

05:10:55.480 Appreciate it.

05:10:56.100 We were, you were asking her.

05:10:59.220 Yeah.

05:10:59.660 So earlier you had said that you're a Christian and then you're now like trying to give advice

05:11:06.380 saying like, oh, if you want to sleep with somebody, you should wait until you've at least

05:11:09.520 known them for a month or have an emotional connection with them.

05:11:12.600 Not if you're trying to sleep with somebody.

05:11:15.160 Maybe it's more for women who are looking for a serious relationship.

05:11:19.600 Not everyone is going to be a Christian.

05:11:22.280 I guess I'm just, as a blanket statement for women that are looking for a relationship, you

05:11:27.520 know, if I don't sleep with a guy so soon, I guess is what I'm just trying to say.

05:11:32.820 Do you think it's okay for a guy to move things along though, if the girl's not willing to

05:11:38.040 sleep with him?

05:11:38.540 I think that's like, for me, I think that's a perfectly valid reason.

05:11:41.720 If the guy wants sex, she doesn't, he can just dump her, dump her or just move along.

05:11:48.260 Well, yeah.

05:11:48.760 And that's obviously something you'd want to talk about.

05:11:50.400 Like, I'm not saying you have to wait forever, but it's more so like if the guy is, you know,

05:11:55.460 only interested in you for sex, that they'll be fished out pretty quickly because they'll

05:12:00.660 make it known.

05:12:01.100 Well, a lot of men will lie about that.

05:12:03.120 Like they want you for sex, but they'll lie and say they want a relationship or, you know,

05:12:08.060 and so the second you sleep with them, it'll be tested by time, essentially.

05:12:11.440 That's wrong.

05:12:11.920 Yeah.

05:12:12.160 And I think it's wrong for men to lie about their intentions, but I guess the dilemma is

05:12:17.220 right.

05:12:17.540 On one hand, I suppose it's always better to be moving in a better direction when it comes

05:12:22.360 to that.

05:12:23.280 But like for me personally, I'm not waiting until marriage.

05:12:25.900 I'm not really particularly inclined to wait long.

05:12:29.340 I am desirous of long, a long-term relationship.

05:12:32.780 That's always, for the most part, been my preference when it comes to dating.

05:12:35.720 I have really no interest in sleeping with a girl once, you know, oh, try to get her and

05:12:40.120 then sleep with her once and then that's it.

05:12:42.840 If I sleep with her, I want there to be continuity.

05:12:44.800 I want to continue seeing her.

05:12:45.980 But I don't have any sort of like, well, we need to wait some arbitrary set period of

05:12:50.680 time.

05:12:51.140 Now, if she's, there might be a bit more leeway, for example, if she's a virgin or her standard

05:12:56.400 with all the prior men she's been with was I'm going to wait X period of time until we're

05:13:02.240 in a relationship, until we're committed, whatever.

05:13:04.320 But if she had 10, 20 previous sexual partners and she slept with all of them relatively quickly

05:13:10.060 and then she lands on me and now she wants to wait three months, she wants to wait until

05:13:16.160 marriage.

05:13:16.480 Well, there is no, there is no arbitrary amount of time.

05:13:19.720 It really is just until you feel like you have a solid foundation other than sex, I guess.

05:13:25.060 And that could be, I mean, it's different for every relationship, but, and that's something

05:13:30.380 that you would want to communicate.

05:13:32.040 You can be fooled, like a guy could just be telling you what you want to hear.

05:13:36.040 And so I think it would be better to encourage women to like pursue, pursue purity and to

05:13:42.860 pursue, uh, like understanding their value and valuing what they have and waiting for

05:13:47.240 chastity, right?

05:13:48.600 Yeah.

05:13:48.880 And, um, and so my fear in like saying that to a girl is that she's going to be let down

05:13:54.740 and then she's going to go through another heartbreak, right?

05:13:57.100 Because you have an attachment with somebody that you're have sex with.

05:14:00.340 And I don't think that that's good advice to be giving somebody.

05:14:04.620 Well, I think that she's just trying to be realistic because that's like, you know, that's

05:14:09.900 not like the norm for like everybody.

05:14:11.780 Yeah.

05:14:12.220 But I'm saying not everyone is going to have Christian values and wait until marriage.

05:14:16.760 Yeah, but you have Christian values.

05:14:19.420 Yeah.

05:14:19.600 You have Christian values and, and there's still like a right way to go about life.

05:14:24.240 And I believe as a Christian, we know what that is.

05:14:26.580 We know that what the way that Jesus says to live, the way that the Bible calls us to

05:14:31.260 live is to have abundant life.

05:14:33.740 Wait, are you waiting until marriage with your next guy?

05:14:36.920 Oh yeah.

05:14:37.120 I don't, I don't want to, you're not going to have sex before marriage.

05:14:39.700 I don't want to have any kind of sexual, no, I'm not a, what do you guys call it?

05:14:44.480 Hold on.

05:14:44.860 Let me ask you a question though.

05:14:46.260 Hold on.

05:14:47.080 How long have you had this position that you're waiting until marriage?

05:14:49.720 Um, well, I'll, my whole life I've, well, you know, but have I followed that?

05:14:57.020 No, but okay.

05:14:58.940 But your first boyfriend wasn't the case.

05:15:02.240 That was a, sounded like an incredibly toxic relationship.

05:15:05.340 Then you were celibate for five years.

05:15:07.200 Then you met this guy who you, who wasn't even a Christian and you sounded like you went

05:15:14.500 on a couple of dates, slept with him a couple of times.

05:15:17.580 You ended things as recently as a month ago, you were, despite knowing that he's not a

05:15:25.180 Christian, you were as recently as a month ago in communications with him.

05:15:30.700 I suspect if you had met up with him, you would have had sexual, uh, sex with him.

05:15:35.280 Is that fair to say?

05:15:37.440 Um, if you were to have met up with him again, is it fair to say you would have had sex?

05:15:42.300 No.

05:15:43.060 Why, why else would you meet up with him?

05:15:44.740 I, I, I don't, uh, I don't think that I would have had sex with him.

05:15:51.120 Why would you meet up with him then?

05:15:52.980 For what other reason?

05:15:54.380 The emotional connection.

05:15:55.240 What do you think his motivation would have been to meet up with you?

05:15:58.500 Probably that.

05:15:59.400 Okay.

05:16:01.640 When you were texting him, did you explicitly state, hey, change of plans, I'm not going

05:16:07.480 to have sex with you.

05:16:08.120 Did you tell him that?

05:16:08.720 Yeah, he, he knew where my stance was.

05:16:09.620 Oh, that's why he flaked on you then probably.

05:16:11.860 Oh, okay.

05:16:12.620 Non-Christian man.

05:16:14.020 Yeah.

05:16:14.640 Uh, what was your point in saying all that?

05:16:16.980 Well, I'm just a little confused because like you say your standard is you want to wait

05:16:21.340 until marriage, but the two men that you weren't.

05:16:22.940 I understand the value of it and I understand every time I don't follow it, it's worse for

05:16:27.700 me.

05:16:28.520 Right.

05:16:28.960 But like, I, I feel like a Christian man that would be inclined to date you who perhaps

05:16:33.860 would be willing to wait until marriage.

05:16:35.520 It would be a little, uh, I don't know what the right word is here.

05:16:39.180 A little disheart, disheartening for him to hear that as recently as a month ago, you're

05:16:43.960 trying to solicit a, I assume date or meet up with a man who's not a Christian who you've

05:16:50.560 previously had sexual intercourse with that would, to me would make me kind of question

05:16:55.000 your motivations.

05:16:56.180 I mean, the temptation is natural.

05:16:57.820 She's not, she's not claiming to be perfect.

05:17:00.080 She's not claiming to never have been tempted in her life.

05:17:02.940 Yeah.

05:17:03.220 And sometimes we even give into that, but it's, it's a natural double mindedness, like

05:17:07.760 the flesh versus the spirit.

05:17:08.920 And so I think what she's trying to say is even though she is a Christian, she follows

05:17:12.680 Christ.

05:17:13.440 Here.

05:17:13.880 It's not always, it's not always like I'm going to be perfect.

05:17:17.160 Sure.

05:17:17.460 All the time.

05:17:18.020 Yes.

05:17:18.260 People make mistakes.

05:17:18.940 Absolutely.

05:17:19.380 I guess, I guess.

05:17:20.560 I'm sorry for speaking for you.

05:17:22.100 Maybe that's not true for you.

05:17:22.860 I think that's impressive that you've.

05:17:24.180 Yes.

05:17:24.560 I will, I will grant you that the fact that you were celibate for five years and then

05:17:28.100 another two years and you know, you claim your body counts only two.

05:17:31.520 That's, that's commendable, uh, at least compared to your, uh, peers of your same age.

05:17:38.860 But, uh, it seems like, let's say there was a Christian guy, but he's not inclined to wait

05:17:43.320 for marriage.

05:17:44.920 I mean, I, he, I feel like he'd be getting, getting a bit of a raw deal to learn that as recently

05:17:50.120 as a month ago, you were soliciting a, uh, at least at minimum, a romantic hangout with

05:17:57.000 a man who you had previously had sexual intercourse with.

05:17:59.780 And I mean, it's very likely that you put a, you could have fallen into temptation and

05:18:04.900 had sex with him.

05:18:06.160 Yeah.

05:18:06.740 It's probably, it's probably likely.

05:18:08.620 It's, it's likely that you would have had sex with him.

05:18:10.960 Then God's protecting her.

05:18:12.080 I don't, yeah, I think that, I think that too, but, uh, yeah, I think that just because

05:18:18.780 you mess up doesn't mean you still shouldn't try, strive to be better, try to be pure, try

05:18:24.860 to be those things.

05:18:26.340 And, uh, there's forgiveness and, and like, and I totally, but that's, that's just the

05:18:31.920 reality of like my sin and my mistake and my, uh, you know, not following like what I know

05:18:38.500 to be true and what I know to be right.

05:18:40.240 And like people are, you just have to take it or leave it.

05:18:42.640 Like if that's too much for somebody, then that's too much for somebody.

05:18:47.880 Well, I think, which is why you should try to, to value what you have even more.

05:18:54.120 I think one of the issues is though, is, I mean, there, there are women who will kind

05:18:57.800 of claim that they want to wait, you know, they meet a guy, they've had 10 previous sexual

05:19:02.500 partners.

05:19:02.880 They slept with all those men relatively quickly and then they land on you and they claim to

05:19:08.460 really like you, but then they're wanting to make you wait for sex.

05:19:13.940 Even if you're desirous of a long-term relationship and you're desirous of, you can look at it

05:19:19.260 from a different perspective.

05:19:20.940 Like, um, maybe it clearly didn't work out with the last dudes that someone slept with

05:19:27.360 and, um, they don't want to follow that same formula because they really like you and they

05:19:31.500 don't want to mess it up and they want, I mean, there's different parts.

05:19:34.240 I mean, ultimately it's coming from, it would be coming from that place because you care

05:19:38.360 about the relationship.

05:19:39.240 Does that make any sense?

05:19:40.640 So you reward the fuck boys who will never give you commitment with immediate sex and

05:19:45.280 you punish the men who are worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks, months, or even until

05:19:50.880 marriage.

05:19:51.240 Well, you also don't know what they've been through.

05:19:52.660 What if they got pregnant and a CD, like you don't know their sexual history.

05:19:56.320 How's that relevant?

05:19:57.260 Because they're traumatized and maybe they're like scared to have sex out.

05:19:59.540 I don't know how that's relevant.

05:20:00.420 What do you mean?

05:20:01.380 It's not necessarily a punishment.

05:20:02.760 What if he's desirous of having sex?

05:20:04.700 Well, that would make sense.

05:20:05.240 Then he should date someone else who's desirous of having sex.

05:20:07.520 Well, yes, I agree.

05:20:09.100 I agree.

05:20:09.520 He's punishing himself by dating somebody who doesn't want the same things that he wants.

05:20:13.400 He's punishing himself.

05:20:14.360 He's putting himself in that position.

05:20:15.980 Exactly.

05:20:16.460 Well, but hold on.

05:20:17.140 He's more than welcome to move on and go, go.

05:20:19.720 The cat's kind of already out the bag.

05:20:21.920 You're no longer a virgin.

05:20:23.240 You've had a promiscuous past.

05:20:25.020 Look, I suppose.

05:20:26.400 So what should I do differently, you think?

05:20:28.860 Well, I'm going to.

05:20:30.120 Okay.

05:20:30.400 He's going to push back on this.

05:20:31.860 I have to.

05:20:33.680 Brian, let us assume for a second that a man murders another man.

05:20:38.900 The cat's already out of the bag.

05:20:40.340 He's already done it.

05:20:41.340 Should he just keep on going?

05:20:43.340 Nice try, Brian.

05:20:44.440 No, he should not continue murdering him.

05:20:47.360 Why not, though?

05:20:48.300 But he's already done it.

05:20:49.580 So what advice would you, Brian, give to women who have previously had intercourse before marriage

05:20:56.760 but want to turn their life around?

05:20:59.480 What advice would you give them to go about that without, for lack of a better word, offending the man?

05:21:04.940 Here's, yeah, yeah.

05:21:05.880 So, I mean, look, here's a bit of my criticism.

05:21:09.820 I have, I think it's fair for men to be skeptical is kind of where I'm going with this, is that, is it really how you feel?

05:21:20.400 Or are you just using it as leverage to secure a long-term relationship?

05:21:25.280 Because where I get skeptical is, is that, one, are you actually attracted to the guy to begin with?

05:21:31.620 Or are you, you feel like you're settling and then, you know, you're just not really that attracted to him.

05:21:39.280 But time's ticking, time's running out.

05:21:41.180 Okay, here's a nice provider, provider, nice guy.

05:21:44.800 Okay, I'm going to make him wait until marriage.

05:21:46.760 Boom, boom, boom.

05:21:47.580 Then, like, all those guys who, like, hit it within the first 20, I don't know, two hours, whatever.

05:21:53.520 Or you're going to be thinking about them, and they were, they pleased you better sexually, whatever it may be.

05:21:59.880 And then it just makes for just a terrible relationship.

05:22:03.380 That's a very niche scenario, I think.

05:22:05.220 Well, no, no, wait, hang on.

05:22:08.020 So, I did back you guys up on this, because me and Brian do have, it's one of the things we do have a fundamental disagreement on.

05:22:13.560 But he is right about this, in this sense.

05:22:16.420 And I'd like to actually see it refuted.

05:22:18.880 Christianity has become a safe haven for reformed prostitutes, who then move in and say, oh, well, now I'm going to be chaste, and I'm going to follow all of the criteria, which is required for a Christian.

05:22:33.420 I'm a good girl now, right?

05:22:34.940 I'm a good girl now.

05:22:36.580 And it's used as a form of camouflage in order to attract a mate later in life.

05:22:43.520 And you just say, hey, I'm reformed, so you can't hold that against me.

05:22:47.500 And that's what his point is, is a red flag.

05:22:49.680 He's saying, this is a massive red flag for men.

05:22:52.380 And why wouldn't it be a red flag for men that suddenly your behavior massively changes, sometimes overnight?

05:22:59.360 Shouldn't men be skeptical?

05:23:01.400 Not the right men.

05:23:02.340 I don't really think that's the case for Aspen.

05:23:03.580 What do you mean not for, wait, wait, why do you mean not the right men?

05:23:05.800 It's okay to be skeptical.

05:23:06.860 He probably should be skeptical, because he needs to figure out if I'm somebody that he would want to be with.

05:23:12.980 Or if you're being genuine about your change.

05:23:14.640 Or if I'm being genuine, or if I'm, like...

05:23:18.160 Yeah, so it's a massive red flag, right?

05:23:20.820 So Flo Act 954 donated $69.

05:23:24.360 On the first date, I'm going in for the kiss.

05:23:27.400 After the third date, if we ain't acting like apes under silky drapes, shoe fly.

05:23:32.520 I'm not the dimidate kind of guy being used by 304s as a wink in the eyes.

05:23:38.320 Beautiful.

05:23:39.240 That was good.

05:23:41.620 It's just a skepticism thing.

05:23:44.320 Like, okay, because there's this thing where maybe we pull up the flower cup meme, Nick.

05:23:52.480 The censored one, if you can.

05:23:56.620 It's like, okay, last 20 guys, you hooked up, first date.

05:24:01.760 Then you come along, oh, wait till marriage, or wait three months.

05:24:06.280 And then maybe the guy does it.

05:24:08.060 He does all the right things, courts you, blah, blah, blah.

05:24:11.180 Let's say you break up with that guy.

05:24:13.880 I hear plenty of stories where the guy will do the right thing, wait, whatever.

05:24:18.660 And then that girl, after they break up, rebound.

05:24:22.620 Fucks a guy within 24 hours of meeting him.

05:24:25.140 So it was never actually a genuine standard.

05:24:28.040 You just use this, like, you're basically playing a game.

05:24:31.140 You're manipulating.

05:24:32.180 Or they're just immature, and maybe it was, there's a part of them that means it.

05:24:37.660 You got it, Nick?

05:24:38.360 Yeah.

05:24:38.840 Here's the meme, right?

05:24:40.360 Okay, this is what it is.

05:24:42.460 Okay.

05:24:43.580 Maybe put us on the corner or something.

05:24:45.840 Put us on the corner.

05:24:46.440 This is the meme.

05:24:47.360 Oh, do you want to be the guy who's got the flowers?

05:24:51.920 And do you want to be that guy?

05:24:56.900 What message are you saying?

05:24:57.840 I don't want to be any of those men.

05:25:00.280 I don't think that any guy would want to be that.

05:25:03.000 This is it.

05:25:03.880 This is what's going on.

05:25:04.720 So you're saying to men, he doesn't get sex?

05:25:06.480 This is what's going on.

05:25:07.340 You don't want to be that guy with the flowers.

05:25:09.240 It's best to just get in line.

05:25:10.780 That's not a good move.

05:25:11.200 No, you don't want to be anybody in that line.

05:25:14.760 He's giving you an internal critique.

05:25:17.460 He's saying, look, there are men out there who want to follow virtues, and they want to follow a Christian ethic, or maybe a Muslim ethic, or maybe some other Abrahamic religious ethic.

05:25:30.080 The last thing that they want is to be made fools of by having a woman who claims that they're suddenly pious, and they're just utilizing them and utilizing the religion as a mask so that they can basically protect themselves from the ridicule that would normally come with their promiscuous past.

05:25:49.340 And that's what we're seeing a rise in.

05:25:51.300 So from the secularist perspective and Brian's perspective, the logic here is really sound.

05:25:56.400 He's saying, look, if you're willing to have sex with all these men, and then suddenly you're a chaste Christian, don't you think that should throw up red flags for other men that perhaps you're just utilizing this as a cloak in order to hide from your promiscuous past?

05:26:13.820 And I think that that's a totally valid criticism and one which women in the Christian church, and the Christian church is anyway, especially Protestant churches, have been really pushing on men.

05:26:25.200 Oh, she's reformed. It's okay.

05:26:27.200 But I mostly see this from women.

05:26:28.960 I don't see this from men who basically, they don't want to marry reformed prostitutes.

05:26:33.040 Why would you blame them?

05:26:34.240 I'm honestly not even talking about, like, I don't blame them necessarily at all.

05:26:37.200 It's going down a, the whole point was just, like, from the get-go for girls to just be, like, more choosy about being, like, so quick to sleep with people.

05:26:46.480 That's really just, like, that's it.

05:26:48.960 I have a couple really quick on the whole waiting for sex thing.

05:26:51.320 There's entailments here, though, right?

05:26:52.760 It's, like, the problem is, is that the one thing leads to the other thing leads to the other thing.

05:26:58.020 So it's, like, it's nice to say, you know, women should be more choosy.

05:27:02.040 But you were saying, you know, earlier, well, they should wait at least a month.

05:27:06.360 But even that within the Christian ethic is incorrect.

05:27:08.920 And then I heard Blue Cross say, hey, look, that's not the right kind of man, then, if he doesn't want to marry a reformed prostitute.

05:27:18.520 Well, wait a second.

05:27:19.840 I mean, that's the wrong kind of woman, right?

05:27:22.620 He's the right kind of man.

05:27:23.920 She's the wrong kind of woman.

05:27:25.220 Isn't that the right way to phrase that?

05:27:27.540 So you're saying the right kind of man is the type that wants to?

05:27:30.840 Various crazy people donated $69.

05:27:34.860 Why invest time, money, and resources to a disinterested woman when you know she has given it up to someone else on the first date?

05:27:42.740 No one is making you do that.

05:27:43.620 No, I think you said it best yourself, a disinterested woman.

05:27:47.720 Just go pursue women who are interested in you.

05:27:50.440 I think you said disheartened.

05:27:51.260 Yeah, I mean, my advice is find another woman.

05:27:55.760 I don't know what's making you do that.

05:27:57.580 This is my point, right?

05:27:58.820 It's like, from their perspective, how can you even blame them?

05:28:03.280 If they're like, oh, well, now suddenly you put props on and you're a Christian, but you were humping everything that moved just a couple of years ago, right?

05:28:11.960 Doesn't that seem, from the perspective of especially secular men, that would be like the most enormous red flag I could think of, right?

05:28:21.260 From secular men, yes.

05:28:23.000 I'm not a secular man.

05:28:23.780 But even from Christian men, why shouldn't that be a red flag from Christian men that you have a highly promiscuous past?

05:28:29.120 I mean, hopefully that's not the only thing that they know about the person.

05:28:33.140 There's also other things that come with the person.

05:28:36.400 I think if you want to pursue a woman with a past that has been reformed, then ultimately you're going to know that.

05:28:43.900 You're going to know if that is a person that you want to try and date.

05:28:48.260 And if that comes with that, ultimately that's how it is.

05:28:51.720 Sure, sure.

05:28:52.220 But let me ask you this then to kind of expand on Brian's point.

05:28:56.560 Your future daughter, Cindy Lou, okay, comes over and, you know, or you know what?

05:29:05.500 Let's do this even easier.

05:29:06.880 Let's say your little son, Jack, comes over to you at 19 years old.

05:29:10.860 And all things equal, Jack has the choice between two women.

05:29:15.760 They both adore him.

05:29:17.360 They're both beautiful.

05:29:18.660 They both have what you would consider to be great virtues.

05:29:22.060 But one of them had a past that was highly promiscuous and the other one does not.

05:29:26.520 Which one would you want Jack to end up with?

05:29:28.580 Well, are you asking me?

05:29:34.400 Because my personal opinion, like what I would say is whichever one he felt like he wanted to pursue and whichever one.

05:29:42.680 Yeah, but he says, Mom, I can't decide.

05:29:45.040 They both adore me.

05:29:46.080 Then neither.

05:29:46.540 And I like them both.

05:29:47.280 If you can't decide who you want to pursue, then neither.

05:29:50.260 They're both pursuing me with rigor, right?

05:29:54.980 If you had to make the whole question.

05:29:55.720 I think it'd be better.

05:29:57.080 Hang on, hang on.

05:29:57.580 Let me finish the question.

05:29:58.620 Let me finish the question.

05:29:59.460 Your question doesn't make sense.

05:30:00.900 No, I'll help out.

05:30:01.680 It does.

05:30:02.060 Hang on.

05:30:02.600 It does make sense, right?

05:30:04.160 So the question is, is that if they have the same current virtue but not the same past,

05:30:09.740 wouldn't you recommend that your son move for the one that has the same virtue as the other but without all of the bear down of the past?

05:30:17.260 I don't believe that the past has any relevance to the current.

05:30:20.980 Yes, it does.

05:30:21.280 I just don't understand why.

05:30:22.420 I definitely think about it.

05:30:23.200 Hold on.

05:30:23.960 Just to answer his question, he's asking you just actually try to engage with it.

05:30:30.820 Well, that's insane.

05:30:32.100 What do you mean the past has no relevance?

05:30:33.840 We'll get to that.

05:30:34.720 Wait, Andrew.

05:30:35.120 If she was a felon that had no relevance, if she blew 100 guys in a month-long blow dick affair, right?

05:30:45.920 She had a blow dick-a-thon, and she blew 100 guys that would have no relevance to you whatsoever.

05:30:53.500 Really?

05:30:54.460 Go ahead.

05:30:54.860 Tell me with a straight face that you're not lying to me.

05:30:57.100 No.

05:30:57.440 Tell me with a straight face that would have no relevancy to you whatsoever.

05:31:00.420 No.

05:31:00.900 No, you do think that.

05:31:02.460 You're full of shit.

05:31:03.820 Bullshit.

05:31:04.180 There's a consequence.

05:31:05.100 What's this about the dick-a-thon?

05:31:06.280 If I ever believe you that that would mean nothing to you for little Jack, you'd be like,

05:31:10.500 you know, Jack, don't worry about it.

05:31:12.440 Sure.

05:31:12.880 She sucked 100 dicks in a blow dick-a-thon.

05:31:16.040 Move past it.

05:31:17.320 Leave the other shit.

05:31:18.260 How do you get invited to the dick-a-thon?

05:31:19.300 Hold on.

05:31:19.920 Because this stemmed from the advice to have girls wait and be less promiscuous.

05:31:25.900 And then he was talking to me about it.

05:31:27.640 Okay.

05:31:27.760 Hold on.

05:31:28.140 Hold on.

05:31:28.400 I do actually want to see if we can get an answer to Andrew's question.

05:31:32.960 If you had to counsel your son, which do you pick?

05:31:39.520 Well, I mean, as a mom, I'm sure I would prefer the one that was less promiscuous.

05:31:43.560 But I truly believe that people can be reformed.

05:31:47.780 People can separate themselves from their past and start anew.

05:31:52.280 And that's from my own experience.

05:31:53.720 And that's from my husband's experience.

05:31:55.260 Yeah, but we're not doubting that people can be reformed.

05:31:59.320 That's what I base my answer off of.

05:32:00.940 Yeah, but nobody's doubting that Reformation is not only possible, but is key to the Christian ethic.

05:32:06.760 But that does not erase your previous deeds.

05:32:11.080 It does not erase your past that just because you have been redeemed, the past no longer exists.

05:32:16.260 For instance, you would agree with me that a murderer who horribly murdered people could be redeemed by Christ, right?

05:32:24.460 Yeah, of course.

05:32:25.680 Are we going to just suddenly forget that he murdered people?

05:32:28.540 You don't forget, okay, about the past.

05:32:32.660 No, it matters.

05:32:33.120 But it is forgiven.

05:32:34.800 I didn't say it's not forgiven.

05:32:36.900 I said it matters.

05:32:38.220 That's the point is that it matters.

05:32:40.040 It's not that it's an equal thing across the board.

05:32:43.380 That murderers still took people, loved ones, away from families.

05:32:46.260 They still did horrible things.

05:32:46.680 So let me ask you, Andrew, why does it matter to you so much?

05:32:49.460 It, that a person has a past because I don't want to see my children.

05:32:54.740 Various crazy people donated $69.

05:32:58.040 Jesus forgives your past.

05:33:00.080 Men don't.

05:33:00.720 I got something here.

05:33:01.580 I got something.

05:33:02.200 So look.

05:33:02.640 Because if I had to counsel my children to answer your question directly, of course I'm going to counsel them to go with the person who has the higher virtue without the past because it shows a pattern of behavior that they've always moved towards virtue.

05:33:15.440 It shows a pattern of behavior that they've always moved inside of that field of view.

05:33:21.000 And so I'm not going to just dismiss a person's past behavior because their head was dunked in holy water and they say, now I've been saved.

05:33:30.300 Christianity is a lifelong process.

05:33:32.460 That's what theosis is.

05:33:33.860 Your past is not suddenly erased.

05:33:36.200 Mine isn't.

05:33:37.200 Yours isn't.

05:33:38.300 Nobody's is.

05:33:39.360 That's why.

05:33:40.160 And not only is that logical and consistent, but that's within the ethic itself as well.

05:33:45.960 Redemption without works is no type of redemption at all.

05:33:49.900 It can spend, you can take a lifetime to really repent for the horrible things that you did.

05:33:54.440 Like St. Mary of Egypt, for instance, who was a sex worker, promiscuous prostitute, spent the rest of her life in seclusion and repentance.

05:34:03.840 That's the type of thing that is redemption.

05:34:06.840 Not, I got my head dunked and now my past is erased.

05:34:09.660 That's insanity.

05:34:10.900 Well, are you looking.

05:34:12.000 Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

05:34:12.580 Question, question here.

05:34:13.840 So, okay.

05:34:14.540 Do you think a man is wrong for not being willing to date a woman who perhaps she's changed, she's been redeemed, but despite this, she still has a past.

05:34:27.420 Do you think a man is wrong for not wanting to date her because of her past?

05:34:32.320 Absolutely not.

05:34:33.780 I don't think he would be wrong at all.

05:34:35.140 That's why I'm confused because, well, I want to know why it's so important to Andrew.

05:34:40.460 Because if you look at the fruit of a person's current life, if you look at the fruit of the spirit and you see that someone is, you know.

05:34:48.740 Well, so then you do object to a man not wanting to date a woman with a past.

05:34:51.740 Wait, wait, so wait a second.

05:34:53.180 So wait.

05:34:54.060 You would, you couldn't judge the fruit.

05:34:56.420 You would have to ask your husband, right?

05:34:58.780 Okay.

05:35:01.300 This is not a productive word.

05:35:02.700 Yeah, I mean, listen, I just want to know why it is that you wouldn't give a woman that has a past, you know, a chance if she was trying to be different.

05:35:13.480 I didn't say I wouldn't give him a chance.

05:35:15.500 I didn't say that I would not.

05:35:16.600 Yeah, that was me.

05:35:17.300 I would not.

05:35:17.920 Hang on.

05:35:18.340 I didn't say that I would not adhere to the Christian ethic.

05:35:21.840 What I said specifically is that if I was going to counsel my children, my children, which is the question that I asked you, and they were to come to me and say that a person had a very highly promiscuous past, they had had sex with tons of people, and, you know, last week or a year ago, they got their head dunked in what they perceived to be some holy water from the local heresy Protestant church, and then said, hey, I'm reformed.

05:35:46.100 Look at me, everything's okay now, that I'm going to counsel them against that, and I'm going to tell them, no, that's not the fruits.

05:35:54.540 Fruits are seen through works.

05:35:57.100 That's how you see what the fruit is.

05:35:59.440 Otherwise, how could you ever determine what the fruits are?

05:36:01.940 In this particular case, here's what the fruits are.

05:36:04.700 She was a prostitute, or she was a loose woman, and in any case, this is counseled both ways in the Bible against both types of women, easy women and prostitutes.

05:36:16.100 So, yeah, it's going to take a little more than, well, I just got baptized last week, last month, last year, before I give my blessing to my kid to marry somebody like that.

05:36:27.000 And I would think that you would counsel them the same way.

05:36:29.060 Your past is not just erased.

05:36:30.540 And I don't say that that's wrong, and I don't say that men should feel obligated to date a woman if they're uncomfortable with their past, whether their present life is like that or not.

05:36:43.320 I don't think that that should be held against them.

05:36:46.080 Yeah, but this is the wrong way to look at it.

05:36:48.120 This is why we keep arguing, right?

05:36:50.280 Because I'm saying they shouldn't.

05:36:52.420 I'm saying that my advice would be you should not do that.

05:36:56.600 Just because they're reformed and Christ has forgiven them doesn't mean it's a good idea for you to marry a former prostitute or a former promiscuous woman.

05:37:04.960 Just because Christ has forgiven them, that's great.

05:37:08.420 That's the path.

05:37:09.800 How would you preach that to a current prostitute?

05:37:13.000 Tell me.

05:37:13.380 I would tell them you're going to have to live with what you did, just like I would tell a man.

05:37:17.520 David Tozebchian donated $69.

05:37:20.540 Andrew, your point about women hiding behind religion is valid.

05:37:24.860 Your favorite logical fallacies are Marlboro Red Herrings, Straw Man, and False Dilemma.

05:37:30.880 If a woman can prove she's reformed, may.

05:37:33.940 Andrew, you were about...

05:37:34.740 Yeah, what does that even mean?

05:37:35.660 Oh, wait.

05:37:36.840 Hold, sorry.

05:37:37.260 Various crazy people donated $69.

05:37:41.000 Born again Christian here.

05:37:42.700 Former, psycho, man-in-the-forest essay artist, serial killer, axe-murder.

05:37:48.760 But you have to excuse my past.

05:37:51.580 Dumb.

05:37:52.320 That is dumb.

05:37:53.060 But back to this, back to your point, because it's important.

05:37:59.320 Your question was asking me about forgiveness.

05:38:04.220 Yes, of course it can be forgiven.

05:38:06.260 They should be forgiven.

05:38:07.080 And you ask me, well, wait a second.

05:38:09.160 What would you say?

05:38:10.080 I would say the same thing I would say to a man.

05:38:11.940 You have to take accountability for what you did.

05:38:16.700 That's part of the fruits you bear is accountability, especially under Christian ethics.

05:38:22.520 That's what humbleness is about.

05:38:24.320 It's part of accountability.

05:38:25.220 I wish I would see more reformed prostitutes who went over to the Christian ethic, who said, I'm accountable for everything I did, and I'm going to spend my life making sure that all these wrongs I did were righted.

05:38:38.760 But they don't do that.

05:38:40.260 They go, oh, well, I did these horrible wrongs, but now I'm safe.

05:38:44.520 Don't judge me.

05:38:45.220 We're disagreeing because you're talking about women that weren't actually born again, and I'm talking about women that were.

05:38:51.640 Exactly.

05:38:52.540 No, you're not.

05:38:53.580 We're talking about the same type of woman.

05:38:56.060 You think, for instance, a porn star tomorrow could go to your church, whichever one it is that you go to, and the pastor could dunk her.

05:39:03.580 She's saved, right?

05:39:04.540 No.

05:39:04.840 You can't just say that you're saved.

05:39:07.000 I could say that I'm a freaking hippopotamus.

05:39:08.680 Yeah, okay.

05:39:09.200 She gave her heart to Jesus.

05:39:10.760 I'm sorry.

05:39:11.120 She comes in.

05:39:11.760 She throws herself down.

05:39:13.720 She says, Lord, forgive me.

05:39:16.000 He dunks her.

05:39:17.360 Okay?

05:39:17.760 Now she's saved, right?

05:39:19.340 She has been saved.

05:39:23.000 Is that wrong?

05:39:25.300 She would know that because she would accept the Holy Spirit into her life.

05:39:29.280 Right.

05:39:29.560 Sure.

05:39:29.940 Okay.

05:39:30.060 So she knows that she's been saved.

05:39:31.500 The only way another person can know is by the fruit.

05:39:34.760 That is the only way another person could know is by the fruit.

05:39:38.560 You'll know before the fruit comes out, but other people won't know until you see the fruit of that.

05:39:43.500 How would you judge a woman who has spent 20 years blowing men?

05:39:47.740 What fruit does she need to produce?

05:39:49.580 The ex-prostitute would feel, after you're receiving the Holy Spirit, an immense amount of shame.

05:39:57.780 First and foremost, you would feel conviction in your heart for the first time.

05:40:01.560 And that conviction would prompt you to, listen, you can laugh all you want, but this is-

05:40:07.480 To do what?

05:40:08.100 It would prompt you to do what?

05:40:09.220 It would prompt you to want to change, reform, and take ownership and accountability for that past.

05:40:15.840 Oh, I see.

05:40:16.520 So, for instance, if I could tell you that there's a former porn star who exists right this second who's been sitting, literally right where you're sitting right this second, literally been sitting there.

05:40:27.040 Yeah.

05:40:27.400 And she went and she got dunked at heresychurch.com.

05:40:31.800 Being baptized doesn't mean to see.

05:40:32.400 I went on a publicity tour with her testament, her testimonial to the world about how she has been reformed by Christianity.

05:40:42.660 Okay?

05:40:43.040 You would say that this has not been enough time given for us to really judge the fruits, right?

05:40:48.240 No, I think that telling testimony and making a public, I guess, proclamation about your past and owning up to it and actively speaking about that testimony in front of people, in front of an audience, or you're saying this person is like, okay, talking in front of an audience.

05:41:11.600 I think that that would be considered fruit, right?

05:41:14.700 No, I wouldn't.

05:41:15.840 I would consider that a person.

05:41:19.800 I like stone fruits.

05:41:21.520 Just rolling through with your testimony doesn't mean anything.

05:41:26.660 That what means something is what you actually do.

05:41:30.760 Fruit is actions.

05:41:31.220 Fruit is actions.

05:41:32.040 Well, okay, but here's the fruits.

05:41:34.360 The fruits are a lot more attention for you.

05:41:36.420 And now a shield and a cloak from criticism using Christianity as your shield.

05:41:42.200 I would say that I would like to see women like this who reform actually give their life to making compensation towards those that they horrifically wronged.

05:41:52.080 And I don't ever see that ever.

05:41:54.700 Based.

05:41:55.300 Yeah.

05:41:55.960 How about this?

05:41:57.320 I completely agree with you.

05:41:58.940 I completely agree with you.

05:42:00.140 So women can change and be redeemed, but men are not obliged to then disregard their baggage and marry them.

05:42:09.560 Nope, they're not.

05:42:10.060 These are compatible.

05:42:11.180 No, and I think that's part of the works that Andrew is talking about.

05:42:15.700 It's going to take work for you to earn the trust from a man when you have that type of past.

05:42:21.060 And so that's, I completely agree with that.

05:42:23.840 Which is why you encourage girls to pursue the highest form of purity.

05:42:27.960 Damn, she's far as fuck from the mic right now.

05:42:30.240 I think everyone is entitled to have their preferences when it comes to dating.

05:42:34.000 Here, I do have to move on here.

05:42:35.620 We do have, let's see, should you wait to have sex in a relationship?

05:42:40.440 Well, we kind of already talked about that.

05:42:42.440 You wanted to, men be following OF models on Instagram.

05:42:47.260 I agree with you.

05:42:48.060 Men should not be following women on, any women on Instagram, to be honest.

05:42:53.100 Should you look through your partner's phone?

05:42:55.140 No.

05:42:55.540 Did you do it?

05:42:58.100 Did you do it?

05:42:58.780 I have in the past, but I don't think you should.

05:43:00.480 Yeah, I don't think you should.

05:43:01.840 Let's see.

05:43:02.720 Does D, okay, we're not going to do that one, sorry.

05:43:06.160 Should you, wait, hold on.

05:43:09.000 Early, hold on.

05:43:13.120 Trans women competing in women's sports.

05:43:15.360 Not really dating related, but no.

05:43:18.740 Let's see.

05:43:19.280 You said you don't agree.

05:43:20.240 Oh, okay, we've got some disagreements here.

05:43:22.200 Okay, we'll get to that.

05:43:23.220 Minnesota wise man donated $69.

05:43:27.120 W slash top so agree them to pass as Blair White triplets.

05:43:31.460 Here's $69 for a tit job.

05:43:34.480 Now plaza throw more stones at Minnie.

05:43:36.960 Almost got enough rocks back to get Graham and off with again and IDGAF.

05:43:41.440 She's sleeping on them on morn.

05:43:43.700 What?

05:43:46.320 Is he saying he's giving you $69 for a boob job?

05:43:49.200 A boob job costs way more than $69.

05:43:51.320 I don't know where you're getting boob jobs, but.

05:43:53.540 There's solidarity.

05:43:54.660 We have solidarity here.

05:43:55.740 The small titty committee, we support small titty women here at the whatever podcast.

05:44:01.900 I will not stand for your slander, sir.

05:44:05.180 How dare you insult small titty women.

05:44:08.520 This is a slander you won't stand for.

05:44:09.380 Dude, it's despicable.

05:44:12.440 You are despicable, sir.

05:44:13.680 Let's go, Brian.

05:44:14.100 We are not going to body shame women with small titties.

05:44:19.040 Wow.

05:44:19.500 I've never felt so defensive.

05:44:20.980 Well said.

05:44:22.660 Listen, I'm a defender of large labia and small titties.

05:44:26.620 Woo!

05:44:27.960 What the fuck?

05:44:29.940 Nico, you said you don't agree that women being afraid of a strange man is sexist.

05:44:36.880 This almost relates to the bear thing a little bit.

05:44:38.580 Yeah, we kind of already touched on it.

05:44:39.740 We touched on that.

05:44:40.920 You said women having single friends is a detriment to the relationship.

05:44:45.240 No, no, no.

05:44:45.920 You don't agree.

05:44:46.560 That's what I don't agree with.

05:44:47.260 You don't agree.

05:44:47.920 Because you said that.

05:44:49.520 So women having single male friends, you mean?

05:44:51.800 No, no, no.

05:44:52.180 Oh, single female friends.

05:44:53.440 Yeah.

05:44:53.820 Yeah.

05:44:54.080 I think it's not always a bad thing, but single friends tend to be pretty bad.

05:45:03.420 What's the word for it?

05:45:06.940 Influence.

05:45:07.640 No, there's another word.

05:45:10.340 Yeah, influence.

05:45:11.140 Yeah.

05:45:11.280 I think, I guess it depends the friend.

05:45:14.120 They want you single again, so you can go do some hood rat shit with her.

05:45:17.680 Not always.

05:45:18.400 Not necessarily.

05:45:18.840 You've never had a single female friend who wants to...

05:45:20.980 I'm a single friend in my friend group.

05:45:22.840 I'm no longer friends with her.

05:45:23.940 This is the first time, I'm not even joking, this is the first time I've left my house besides necessity.

05:45:27.820 You've left your house in like three years?

05:45:28.600 In seven months.

05:45:29.660 Oh, wow.

05:45:29.940 Live like Christ donated $69.

05:45:34.860 Woman one, of prostitute and corn star.

05:45:38.220 Woman two, godly traditional housewife.

05:45:41.340 On their deathbed, who will have lived a more joyful and fulfilling life and had a better impact on those around them.

05:45:48.860 Two?

05:45:50.580 I don't think your job defines your whole entire life and who you are as a person.

05:45:54.540 I get full and filled being a porn star all the time.

05:45:58.320 Oh, my gosh.

05:46:02.920 Excuse me?

05:46:04.760 What the fuck?

05:46:06.620 Hold on.

05:46:07.020 Stop it.

05:46:08.020 Who is the more fulfilling life?

05:46:08.960 Get him help.

05:46:10.800 Gosh.

05:46:13.440 Brian, his daddy donated $69.

05:46:16.240 What?

05:46:16.860 Andrew, take a fiver and rest your vocal cords.

05:46:20.340 Tee-hee-hee, Gustavo.

05:46:21.920 Let's see a smile for once, go damn it.

05:46:24.420 What is a red flag you all have ignored in the past that you learned from the hard way?

05:46:30.200 Good question.

05:46:31.200 Red flag that I've ignored.

05:46:33.120 Oh, I know one.

05:46:36.380 This is for the whole table.

05:46:37.900 I'm thinking still, so go ahead.

05:46:40.300 Someone that's like super into mental health.

05:46:44.640 It's actually, that's pretty good.

05:46:45.900 That's actually very, hold on.

05:46:49.640 Got to be a big, big agree for me there.

05:46:52.180 Big agree.

05:46:52.820 What about you?

05:46:53.780 Someone who has like a quick temper.

05:46:57.000 Huh.

05:46:57.740 Okay.

05:47:00.220 Somebody who thinks like just being insulting is a joke.

05:47:02.980 Somebody who rocks.

05:47:08.020 I've been nice.

05:47:09.040 I've been nice the whole show.

05:47:10.400 Throwing your fingers.

05:47:11.180 I've been nice the whole show.

05:47:12.680 I have a red flag too.

05:47:14.300 The people who talk like this.

05:47:16.000 Oh yeah?

05:47:16.540 That's my red flag.

05:47:17.440 I'm so disappointed I'll never get in your pants, Andrew.

05:47:21.280 I mean, thank God for small miracles.

05:47:25.960 You should because like, nevermind.

05:47:30.540 Huh?

05:47:30.860 I was about to say some sus shit, nevermind.

05:47:34.300 No, say it.

05:47:36.560 Andrew, I'll let you know.

05:47:38.460 Andrew's a great man.

05:47:40.080 He's a great man.

05:47:42.680 He's very smart.

05:47:44.140 And you know this.

05:47:45.940 And you're gay for him.

05:47:47.940 Andrew, can I say something kind of sus?

05:47:50.840 Oh no, here we go.

05:47:52.360 Let's see it.

05:47:53.640 Huge.

05:47:54.540 Oh.

05:47:55.160 Oh yeah?

05:47:55.880 It's huge.

05:47:56.720 Oh my God.

05:47:57.340 Probably not bigger than the biggest I have.

05:47:59.480 I don't even know.

05:48:00.860 He is gay for having you.

05:48:03.440 Giant penis.

05:48:06.180 We can just like, we just like walk down through the typical female arguments, which is we have

05:48:11.540 no arguments.

05:48:12.340 So you're an incel or you're gay.

05:48:14.480 That's a, that's about the form for you tonight.

05:48:16.880 You've done a great job.

05:48:17.800 You have literally lived the stereotype of most stupid women.

05:48:22.340 I swear you have lived it to a T.

05:48:25.380 Oh shit.

05:48:26.080 What the fuck?

05:48:26.660 Gun, incel, gay.

05:48:27.620 That's, that's basically the entirety of your arguments.

05:48:30.900 You should be very proud of yourself.

05:48:32.440 Me, personally, because I didn't call anybody on Instagram.

05:48:35.620 I didn't call anybody.

05:48:36.520 I'm going to call that.

05:48:37.860 Move along, move along.

05:48:39.060 What was the question again?

05:48:40.400 It was a red flag you ignored.

05:48:41.880 Yeah.

05:48:42.720 If they robbed a bank at gunpoint.

05:48:45.100 Oh no.

05:48:45.640 Oh, uh, he told me he thinks he's on a terrorist watch list.

05:48:52.960 Yikes.

05:48:55.920 Uh, probably listening to words instead of actions.

05:49:00.040 Shizzle.

05:49:01.500 Um, men who lie to you and tell you they love you just to sleep with you.

05:49:06.680 Here's mine.

05:49:08.060 Red flag, ignored it.

05:49:10.220 She said she was a feminist.

05:49:13.640 Oh, that's a good one.

05:49:15.820 That's a red flag.

05:49:16.880 And I, who here is anybody who here is a feminist going around the table?

05:49:22.340 Yes.

05:49:22.880 Feminist.

05:49:23.480 Yikes.

05:49:24.040 I don't really know the definition.

05:49:25.400 Demi.

05:49:26.300 To be honest.

05:49:27.320 It would be, um, I can give you the most charitable definition I possibly can.

05:49:31.340 It would be a movement towards egalitarianism between men and women in a rejection of a patriarchal

05:49:38.260 order.

05:49:38.680 I believe the dictionary definition is the belief that, um, both sexes are equal.

05:49:44.640 Okay.

05:49:45.160 Which would entail that you would reject male patriarchy if there's equality.

05:49:49.600 Yes.

05:49:51.000 I suppose.

05:49:52.220 Yeah.

05:49:52.740 So then my definition was correct.

05:49:54.680 Mm-hmm.

05:49:55.420 Let's see.

05:49:56.420 Uh, okay.

05:49:57.360 You said.

05:49:58.060 Good job.

05:49:58.880 Just did some more words.

05:50:00.800 Yeah.

05:50:01.100 You got me good.

05:50:01.780 Same thing.

05:50:02.440 I'll hear.

05:50:03.720 I'm sorry that I'm specific with arguments, but that's because I don't want there to be

05:50:07.660 any confusion.

05:50:09.260 All right.

05:50:09.820 Moving on to.

05:50:10.620 That's me being, that's me being the most charitable that I can possibly be.

05:50:13.200 So imagine insulting me for being as charitable as I can possibly be to her worldview.

05:50:21.320 Well done.

05:50:22.140 That was me insulting you and you called me stupid?

05:50:24.120 Yeah, I think, I think you should, I think you should, I didn't call you stupid.

05:50:27.340 I said that that was the tier of your argumentation was to say incel, stupid or gay.

05:50:33.320 That was the, the literally the length of your argumentation.

05:50:36.180 I literally never said stupid.

05:50:37.720 You did, but I forget you.

05:50:40.280 I didn't.

05:50:40.560 I never called you stupid.

05:50:42.460 Okay.

05:50:42.860 Moving on to Ali.

05:50:44.020 So you both, did you tell us about the Tesla?

05:50:47.840 He vandalized your Tesla.

05:50:49.420 Yeah.

05:50:49.780 You told us that?

05:50:50.920 I didn't go into detail.

05:50:51.520 People donated $69.

05:50:53.960 I don't understand this term incel.

05:50:56.740 I think men understand what they need to do to attack a woman.

05:51:00.500 Money, success, confidence, fit.

05:51:03.660 There should be Vassell for voluntary celibate.

05:51:07.540 Word?

05:51:09.840 I mean, yeah.

05:51:11.080 Right, but it's used as an attack against men who don't kiss women's asses.

05:51:15.840 They, they make the claim that it's misogynistic and in some way evil because you actually dare

05:51:22.420 question their absurd worldviews.

05:51:25.320 Uh, this usually comes from women specifically.

05:51:28.220 I don't see this very much from men who tend to have no problem having their worldviews challenged.

05:51:33.200 They may get, uh, you know, offended or upset, uh, or even defensive.

05:51:37.760 But generally speaking, that's kind of par for the course.

05:51:41.480 I don't usually, I've never, in other words, I've never really been in an argument with a man, maybe a couple of times, male feminists, where I've said, hey, your worldview is wrong and here's why.

05:51:51.240 And they've gone, oh yeah, incel.

05:51:52.800 But I do hear it a lot from women, which is interesting.

05:51:57.200 It is interesting.

05:51:58.140 For shizzle.

05:51:58.460 So, so Allie, you said that, uh, I'm going to skip over that one just for the sake of time, but you said you're working on yourself and you're choosing to stay single for a very long time until you've done tons of therapy.

05:52:15.920 So why is that a bad thing?

05:52:18.360 Well, what it's a bad thing because why are you going to therapy?

05:52:23.020 I feel like honestly, everyone should go to therapy.

05:52:25.500 It's just beneficial.

05:52:26.420 What is it?

05:52:27.180 Yeah.

05:52:27.920 It sounds, it seems, what if it, wait, it's beneficial.

05:52:30.660 What if it just doesn't do anything?

05:52:32.800 I mean, I think you need to be honest with the therapist and yourself or else it's not going to work.

05:52:37.420 It's not going to help.

05:52:38.740 Yeah.

05:52:39.100 But let's say it doesn't actually benefit you.

05:52:41.820 So then it would just be a waste of time and money.

05:52:44.700 Wouldn't it?

05:52:45.340 I feel like it benefits me.

05:52:46.740 It helps me to have someone to talk to.

05:52:48.360 Yeah.

05:52:48.920 What do you, what issues are you trying to, uh, work on?

05:52:52.500 Well, I just started, there was a waiting list and I hadn't had one since COVID cause they stopped seeing people.

05:52:57.100 I have had therapists in the past.

05:52:59.220 Um, but just like past traumas, like, you know, like blockages I have that would prevent me from being in like a healthy relationship.

05:53:07.760 Cause you have to take accountability.

05:53:09.100 So like, I can't just be like, Oh, these guys are crazy.

05:53:11.640 It's like, well, I'm choosing to be with those people.

05:53:14.220 Like I'm playing an active role in that.

05:53:17.740 And I just want to work on being the best version of myself.

05:53:20.760 So I don't think that I should enter another relationship until I just have raised my standards for myself and the person I'm with.

05:53:29.800 Wow.

05:53:30.540 That's good, Ali.

05:53:31.380 Thank you.

05:53:32.700 Is your, is your plan to try to kind of become independent of doing any of the sex work stuff?

05:53:40.220 Definitely.

05:53:40.580 Is that what you call it?

05:53:41.720 Yeah.

05:53:41.960 I'm not offended by the term sex worker.

05:53:43.700 Yeah.

05:53:44.000 I mean, I feel like I was traditional, like before I got into that and I feel like I will be again.

05:53:49.940 It's not something I planned on doing for my entire life.

05:53:53.120 And that's also why I've had like such strict boundaries with like things I just like wouldn't do because I know it is out there forever.

05:54:00.120 So part of your, part of your journey to like work on yourself is to become independent of the sex work stuff.

05:54:07.120 Yeah.

05:54:07.380 I know that I'm not going to be doing it too much longer, but like I am financially dependent on it and it is like funds my lifestyle.

05:54:16.520 So like I'm trying to figure out an exit plan.

05:54:19.100 Um, but I'm not complaining.

05:54:21.740 Like I, I don't like hate it right now.

05:54:23.600 Like it does.

05:54:24.480 I feel like the pros outweigh the cons for me personally, but I know it's not like the best for me long term.

05:54:31.660 It's not like what I want to stay doing.

05:54:33.680 Yeah.

05:54:34.160 Kilo of cereal donated $69.

05:54:37.360 Best to all.

05:54:38.740 Look forward.

05:54:39.760 Get some.

05:54:40.700 Get some.

05:54:41.560 Don't sweat the small stuff, including the itty bitty titty committee.

05:54:45.160 Focus perspectives.

05:54:46.840 Stimulate the economy.

05:54:48.200 Travel.

05:54:48.460 Eat well.

05:54:49.620 Exercise.

05:54:50.680 Stay hydrated.

05:54:51.900 That's beautiful.

05:54:52.860 I do have to move on.

05:54:53.880 Thank you.

05:54:54.200 Kilo of cereal.

05:54:55.380 Going back to Ali, some of your notes here.

05:54:57.300 You said that you're not sure if it's possible for one person to meet all of your needs and you're open to the idea of polyamory.

05:55:05.320 I said this was this last show or this.

05:55:08.100 This could have been old notes, but I mean, this is what it says.

05:55:10.980 In your experience, a lot of men are going to cheat.

05:55:16.080 Hold on.

05:55:16.800 This is definitely from the last show.

05:55:18.400 Or leave you disappointed anyway, so you might as well allow it to a certain extent.

05:55:22.660 I think this is only okay when it's consensual.

05:55:25.800 So this is from the last show?

05:55:27.380 Yeah.

05:55:27.640 I'm not saying I disagree with that now, but I do think my thoughts and feelings have changed, and that's kind of how I was acting at the time.

05:55:35.360 Got it.

05:55:35.900 We do have some tweets from you.

05:55:37.060 We're going to pull those up.

05:55:38.360 Nick, if you get the tweets going.

05:55:40.320 And are we caught up?

05:55:41.000 Oh, guys, twitch.tv slash whatever, drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub really quick.

05:55:44.540 Nick, do we have any other things that we were supposed to react to?

05:55:49.180 Just that YouTube video?

05:55:50.540 That YouTube video.

05:55:51.700 We'll do that in another show.

05:55:52.840 Oh, yeah.

05:55:53.260 What else?

05:55:54.280 Transformations.

05:55:55.820 The makeup stuff?

05:55:56.960 Yeah, the makeup.

05:55:57.640 And then the other one?

05:55:58.300 The guy versus the girl's physique, and then we hit everything else.

05:56:05.120 Let's do the tweets.

05:56:06.020 Yeah.

05:56:06.640 We have some tweets here from Allie.

05:56:08.180 We did a deep dive on her Twitter.

05:56:09.840 Oh, God.

05:56:10.260 Now, let's react to these.

05:56:12.660 Can you put us on the other side?

05:56:15.300 You're going to have to scroll it bigger.

05:56:17.080 You're going to have to scroll it bigger.

05:56:18.920 Bigger, bigger, bigger.

05:56:19.940 I don't want to see any posts.

05:56:20.540 No, my Twitter's so toxic, guys.

05:56:22.320 Don't.

05:56:22.900 I'm going to have you read them.

05:56:24.180 Go ahead.

05:56:25.000 Forever leaving men on red.

05:56:27.700 So, we have a bunch of Twitters.

05:56:28.860 We're going to try to blast through them super quick.

05:56:30.580 Just your forever leaving men on red.

05:56:32.580 What's going on there?

05:56:33.020 Someone probably made me mad.

05:56:34.820 Made you upset?

05:56:35.100 Okay.

05:56:35.240 Yes.

05:56:35.540 I think I need to be cleansed of men for at least a good year.

05:56:41.600 Whoa.

05:56:41.960 Whoa, Allie Hardest.

05:56:43.960 Who hurt me?

05:56:44.840 I don't remember.

05:56:45.240 Who hurt me?

05:56:46.240 August 2022.

05:56:47.740 Okay.

05:56:48.320 Damn.

05:56:49.580 Okay, next.

05:56:51.940 Men who aren't afraid to express their emotions.

05:56:54.740 I still agree with this.

05:56:55.960 That gives me the answer.

05:56:56.400 Disagree.

05:56:57.060 Disagree.

05:56:58.020 Disagree that you don't think men should express their emotions?

05:57:00.280 Well, this whole idea like, oh, men should be vulnerable.

05:57:02.540 I think it's absolute.

05:57:03.360 It's like, it's bullshit.

05:57:04.620 Yeah.

05:57:05.180 Women, you claim, like it sounds nice.

05:57:07.720 It sounds politically correct.

05:57:08.900 It sounds like the right thing to say.

05:57:11.120 But in actual practice, when men are actually vulnerable with you, you lose attraction for

05:57:17.320 them.

05:57:17.800 Typically.

05:57:18.720 I mean, if you like work to burn it out.

05:57:19.840 Just take a look at this evening.

05:57:21.560 Anytime I even slightly raise my voice, a slight pitch, right?

05:57:25.200 Look how upset people get.

05:57:27.280 And I barely even say anything which would even be considered offensive.

05:57:31.040 Just the tone itself is enough.

05:57:33.400 Just the tone itself is enough to set people off.

05:57:36.440 And so it's like, you think, you think, you think that we shouldn't be guarded with our

05:57:40.940 emotions?

05:57:41.340 I would say probably the opposite is true.

05:57:46.100 I have to, I'd have to agree.

05:57:47.700 I mean, you can shrug your shoulders, but nobody's been triggered more than me.

05:57:50.980 I'd have to agree that it is nice when men aren't the emotional one in the relationship

05:57:56.440 because you can, I feel like women are more inherently neurotic and neurotic means like

05:58:02.880 sensitive to other people's emotions and other people's energy and whatever.

05:58:07.440 So, sorry about that.

05:58:08.860 But that's not what my tweet said.

05:58:10.480 I think I was just saying like, you know, where you're not confused.

05:58:13.560 They're not playing games, like that sort of thing.

05:58:15.640 Oh, that's different.

05:58:17.060 That was a good tweet.

05:58:18.180 Well, at least it was positive.

05:58:21.020 No, the one that just flashed on the screen.

05:58:22.500 Both of the previous one.

05:58:24.620 Express their emotions.

05:58:26.040 Oh, okay.

05:58:26.460 This is a bit different than being vulnerable then.

05:58:28.940 Yeah.

05:58:29.380 I don't think most men are afraid of expressing their emotions.

05:58:31.420 I like a man who's like, don't.

05:58:32.780 I took it a bit differently then.

05:58:34.040 Brian Astaddy donated $69.

05:58:37.260 Notice how the therapy industry is booming, yet mental health declines every year.

05:58:42.440 Well put.

05:58:43.000 Therapy teaches you to not care about anyone but yourself.

05:58:46.740 Let's do the next tweet.

05:58:47.500 Therapy breeds narcissists and dehumanizes society.

05:58:51.300 Yeah, well put.

05:58:52.140 Thank you.

05:58:52.460 Appreciate it.

05:58:52.880 I disagree with you.

05:58:53.120 Thank you, Brian Astaddy.

05:58:54.820 Need a man who can let me feel safe in my feminine energy.

05:58:59.540 Was this during or after the orgies?

05:59:02.960 This was like, this is when I was dancing in Miami.

05:59:07.600 It looks like it was tweeted from Florida.

05:59:08.600 Andrew likes that one.

05:59:09.280 That's good.

05:59:09.860 Okay.

05:59:10.880 All right, next.

05:59:11.880 But as I said, I would quit everything.

05:59:13.680 Hold on.

05:59:14.120 Let's close it.

05:59:14.800 You still laugh.

05:59:16.980 Love a man that can teach me things.

05:59:19.600 What's wrong with that?

05:59:20.360 Like, I'm just curious.

05:59:21.160 Like, what?

05:59:22.820 How to change a tire.

05:59:23.920 Like, I want a man I can, like, look up to.

05:59:25.960 Yeah.

05:59:26.400 You know?

05:59:26.800 Okay.

05:59:27.660 What's wrong with that?

05:59:28.260 What if he taught you to stop doing only things?

05:59:30.520 That's fine.

05:59:31.160 I already said, like, I have no problem quitting.

05:59:33.240 I will quit at some point in the near future.

05:59:35.060 Do your thing.

05:59:35.700 Do your thing.

05:59:36.320 All right.

05:59:36.820 Next.

05:59:38.800 I would love to spoil TF out of a man this Valentine's Day, LMAO.

05:59:43.180 Did you?

05:59:44.680 Actually, the guy I was just stating, we got together.

05:59:46.800 Like, it was, like, the morning after Valentine's.

05:59:49.480 But, like, yeah.

05:59:50.860 So, but I guess, like, that's when we started dating.

05:59:53.440 Do you, you spoil, you spoil guys?

05:59:55.720 I, I, yeah.

05:59:56.980 But also, I get taken advantage of.

05:59:58.560 So, I'm trying to, like, wait to, like, go too crazy, you know?

06:00:03.600 Gustavo, do you like taking, like, you know?

06:00:06.780 Like, like, you know?

06:00:09.780 Huh?

06:00:10.320 Huh?

06:00:11.620 Never mind.

06:00:12.080 Okay, moving on.

06:00:15.000 I don't know what I'm saying.

06:00:15.940 Go ahead.

06:00:16.220 Next.

06:00:16.560 I don't think these tweets are that bad.

06:00:17.840 You like taking what?

06:00:20.040 What?

06:00:20.880 Go ahead.

06:00:21.380 Read it.

06:00:21.660 You look scared.

06:00:22.120 I love that my independence weeds out men who are intimidated by it.

06:00:25.840 When you say independence, do you mean posting your pussy on the internet?

06:00:30.580 No.

06:00:30.780 I'm just, I'm just curious.

06:00:31.840 I just, I just need to, is that it?

06:00:33.620 I mean, like, men don't like if you make more money than them.

06:00:36.480 By posting your pussy on the internet.

06:00:38.480 Is it?

06:00:38.780 Sure.

06:00:38.960 Is independence to you money?

06:00:41.560 No.

06:00:42.280 But, like, being able to provide for yourself.

06:00:44.940 Then why did you bring that up as the example?

06:00:46.020 Being able to provide for yourself, I guess.

06:00:49.800 Well, that's money.

06:00:51.080 I guess.

06:00:51.680 But, like, I also, like, I do more than just that, you know?

06:00:55.460 Like, I.

06:00:55.880 Yeah, but what do you, so what do you mean by independence if it's not just about money?

06:00:59.080 Someone could make a lot of money and they could still just, like, not be a responsible

06:01:02.400 person, you know?

06:01:03.400 Like, I feed my animals.

06:01:05.220 I, like, clean my house.

06:01:06.260 Like, it's not like it's just about money.

06:01:08.020 Because you could do all those things even if you were a slave.

06:01:10.680 So, I don't understand what you mean by independence exactly.

06:01:14.380 Right, right.

06:01:15.040 Also, like, because you were just saying that you want to stop doing independence, which

06:01:19.880 is like, you sound kind of dependent on that right now.

06:01:22.480 Well, I'm in a lease right now, but I kind of told myself when my lease is up that, like,

06:01:25.940 I'm going to kind of be done with it.

06:01:27.460 Next week.

06:01:27.960 That's kind of the plan.

06:01:28.680 I hate when people unsend their DMs on IG, like, okay, now you're sus, bro.

06:01:35.640 I agree with you so much.

06:01:38.920 I don't know why this is even a feature that you can uns, it should at bare minimum say

06:01:43.940 a message was unsent.

06:01:46.060 Because somebody could, like, put together.

06:01:48.920 Doesn't it?

06:01:49.420 No, it doesn't on Instagram.

06:01:50.980 If you unsend a message, it doesn't show it.

06:01:52.540 I think it only notifies you.

06:01:52.860 Like, if you're on your phone, it will pop up and, like, if you haven't.

06:01:56.640 You can see it.

06:01:57.500 Yeah, but it won't say on the message.

06:01:59.040 That's why you can gaslight someone.

06:02:00.140 If you, yeah, if you go back 30 minutes, like, 30 minutes after, you can unsend messages

06:02:06.900 from years ago, and it's really sus.

06:02:09.900 And, like, at the bare minimum, it should say a message unsent.

06:02:13.580 But somebody could, like, string together, like, a chain of questions, unsend some of

06:02:18.720 them, and, like, basically paint you as a fucking monster in the DMs.

06:02:24.840 It's bad.

06:02:25.980 Anyways, I 100% agree with you on that.

06:02:27.740 I don't know why they don't at least have a message unsent thing.

06:02:31.160 All the meat.

06:02:32.120 What do I look like?

06:02:33.200 A piece of meat?

06:02:34.320 What men see?

06:02:35.320 Meat emojis?

06:02:37.720 Poi poo?

06:02:38.800 I'm funny.

06:02:39.380 You can't say I'm not funny.

06:02:40.480 What was going on?

06:02:41.200 And you said that in Hawaii.

06:02:42.940 What was going on in Hawaii?

06:02:44.300 See, I travel.

06:02:45.460 A Hawaii barbecue?

06:02:45.960 What was it going on?

06:02:46.220 I work from my phone.

06:02:47.100 A pig roast.

06:02:47.620 Okay, next.

06:02:49.300 Next.

06:02:49.960 The sluttiest thing a man can do is live in Los Angeles.

06:02:52.760 What?

06:02:53.340 I still agree with that.

06:02:53.740 That's so true.

06:02:55.840 Is it?

06:02:56.460 Yeah.

06:02:56.860 Kind of true.

06:02:59.900 Los Angeles is pretty degenerate.

06:03:01.760 Next.

06:03:03.300 I'm so happy I never said no to opportunities because of a man I was dating, I'm not going

06:03:07.440 to lie.

06:03:07.960 Always living life to the fullest.

06:03:10.060 I still agree with that.

06:03:11.020 It doesn't have to mean it's based off sex work.

06:03:13.380 It could just be like in general.

06:03:15.440 Okay, next.

06:03:17.020 If a man has his entire Zodiac chart memorized, he's been ran through.

06:03:23.280 If he has CoStar, he's ran through.

06:03:25.720 I agree with that.

06:03:29.080 That's actually really funny.

06:03:31.220 That's actually a really funny tweet.

06:03:34.200 There you go.

06:03:35.060 And they say I don't have talent.

06:03:36.080 I can't disagree even a little bit.

06:03:39.680 Next.

06:03:40.200 How many more do we have left?

06:03:41.600 Whenever I have a crush on a man, I will automatically put the word daddy in front of his name anytime

06:03:45.780 I talk about him to any of my friends.

06:03:48.040 I don't even mean to.

06:03:48.960 It just happens if you know you know.

06:03:50.860 That's so true.

06:03:51.660 That's hilarious.

06:03:52.100 How do you have such a banger tweet?

06:03:53.920 I can confirm.

06:03:54.440 She knows.

06:03:55.540 I can confirm she actually does that.

06:03:56.920 Because you people donated $69.

06:04:00.000 Women's independence is a myth.

06:04:02.440 Men build the roads, combs, cars, power grid, protection to name a few, that women rely on.

06:04:09.600 Men allow you the rights you have, like it or not.

06:04:13.780 Thank you, men.

06:04:15.240 You're welcome.

06:04:16.020 Thank you.

06:04:16.800 On behalf of the patriarchy, you're welcome.

06:04:22.360 You're welcome.

06:04:23.820 Four left?

06:04:24.340 Okay, let's get through those.

06:04:25.900 A man paid for our drinks at the event tonight, and then another guy bought our full pack of Trulies at the liquor store.

06:04:31.380 Chivalry's not done.

06:04:32.300 Wait, so this is chivalry to you?

06:04:33.880 The guy is buying you a liquor?

06:04:34.720 I think it's a joke.

06:04:35.840 I think I'm kidding.

06:04:36.580 Okay, you're funny.

06:04:37.280 All right, she's being funny next.

06:04:38.500 I have jokes.

06:04:39.100 I just told a man half my friends are pregnant right now.

06:04:42.440 He said, let's add to that number.

06:04:44.840 That's a threat.

06:04:46.540 That's a threat.

06:04:47.540 That's pretty funny, too.

06:04:49.240 I don't even remember who said that.

06:04:50.600 That was a year ago.

06:04:51.640 Whoever that guy is, that's subjectively hilarious.

06:04:54.160 Okay, there you go.

06:04:55.940 I hate to admit it, but I've actually changed my perspective on a lot of stuff since going on Red Pill Podcast.

06:05:01.080 It's true.

06:05:01.660 Even right now, you guys are changing my perspective on things.

06:05:04.000 The prostitution thing?

06:05:06.000 What about the prostitution thing?

06:05:07.620 You haven't changed that perspective?

06:05:09.260 Well, she said she was trying to.

06:05:10.740 She was in the process.

06:05:11.340 First of all, I'm not even a prostitute.

06:05:13.040 I don't do porn.

06:05:14.240 You don't even do boy or girl.

06:05:15.360 I don't even do porn.

06:05:16.540 Yeah, I do.

06:05:17.360 Like, I take nudes.

06:05:18.180 I sell nudes.

06:05:19.320 Stop, stop.

06:05:19.980 Hang on.

06:05:20.920 Just so you understand, prostitution is all forms of sex work.

06:05:24.480 You're a prostitute if you do stripping.

06:05:26.340 You're a prostitute.

06:05:27.780 If you do OnlyFans material, you're also a prostitute.

06:05:30.860 There's no delineation between the two unless you can make one for me.

06:05:34.020 I believe it's all sex work.

06:05:35.560 I don't agree with that, but if you want to call me that, that's okay.

06:05:38.140 You could say I'm an online prostitute.

06:05:39.700 It's fine.

06:05:40.260 Yeah, well, I'm just asking you whether I agree with it or not.

06:05:43.940 You said you are not this thing.

06:05:45.920 Not that.

06:05:46.320 And I don't want to uncharacteristically say that this is the case if it is not, and you

06:05:52.280 tell me why it is not true.

06:05:54.300 Why are you doing that?

06:05:55.540 What?

06:05:55.880 If I can tell you why it's not true.

06:05:57.300 What, Madison?

06:05:57.980 I don't even do.

06:05:59.240 Why did your face do that?

06:06:00.680 Huh?

06:06:01.040 Do it again.

06:06:01.340 Huh?

06:06:02.240 Do it again.

06:06:04.420 So both of you kind of, like, flared up when we called you guys prostitutes.

06:06:08.960 Yeah.

06:06:09.460 I'm just curious about why is that.

06:06:11.820 I honestly, like, I wasn't offended.

06:06:13.580 I just don't person escort, so I wouldn't claim, like, oh, I'm an escort.

06:06:18.000 Go through, like, what the girls who do.

06:06:21.560 Allie.

06:06:22.240 Yeah?

06:06:22.600 You got this.

06:06:23.320 Read it.

06:06:23.860 Wait.

06:06:24.380 When the original name was why men give the bare minimum and expect the world, ha-ha.

06:06:29.300 But yes, will death be there?

06:06:30.980 Can't wait.

06:06:31.420 That was a response to something.

06:06:32.960 I don't know what it was.

06:06:34.160 Okay.

06:06:36.780 Wait.

06:06:37.020 Pull it back up real quick.

06:06:38.660 Yeah.

06:06:38.960 What was I replying to?

06:06:40.120 The original name was why men give the bare minimum and expect the world.

06:06:42.340 Don't you think it's the reverse?

06:06:43.940 Like, women give the bare minimum and do all the shit?

06:06:47.760 Well, I didn't name the things.

06:06:48.900 I was responding to someone else who titled it that.

06:06:50.940 Okay.

06:06:51.440 Whatever it was.

06:06:52.940 So, fine.

06:06:54.480 We have Aspen here.

06:06:55.600 Aspen, you got stood up two times in the month by different guys.

06:06:59.720 Was one of them including the, what happened with the other one?

06:07:03.540 You got stood up.

06:07:04.060 The other one, I have no idea.

06:07:05.840 Well, he's like, they ghosted me.

06:07:07.440 So, I met him on St. Patrick's Day and then he ended up, I forgot his name and then he

06:07:14.520 ended up finding me on Facebook and then he was like, lighten me up.

06:07:21.640 He was like, oh my gosh, I want to take you out, all this stuff.

06:07:26.920 And then I had found out that I knew, I knew who his best friend's little sister was.

06:07:36.240 And apparently she had always been in love with him.

06:07:40.120 So, he wanted to like come over to my house and change and like to like go out.

06:07:46.360 It was kind of like just like how the situation worked out.

06:07:48.600 And he's like, if you're not okay with that, I can just go to my friend's house.

06:07:51.800 And so, what I, I have no idea what happened, but I, what I think happened was that they

06:07:57.760 said something negative about me or like, which I don't have any like problem with this

06:08:02.340 person.

06:08:03.160 But anyways, I didn't hear from him again and it was just like, I didn't know what to

06:08:08.120 think.

06:08:08.640 I just, he just didn't message me anymore.

06:08:11.680 So, I don't know if she told him like, oh, she's super religious or she said whatever.

06:08:16.660 So, yeah, that happened, that's what, those two things happened like pretty close together.

06:08:21.680 So.

06:08:22.000 Okay.

06:08:22.880 Guys, a few last things.

06:08:25.400 We're going to not go for too much longer.

06:08:27.300 Guys, I've reduced the TTS trigger to 20.

06:08:31.320 This, we're getting into the chaos segment of the whatever podcast.

06:08:36.280 We've reduced the TTS trigger to 20.

06:08:39.420 Absolute chaos will ensue.

06:08:42.020 So, if you want, get them in.

06:08:43.640 We have a couple more things to hit on really quick and then we're going to wrap up here

06:08:47.580 pretty soon.

06:08:50.260 Okay.

06:08:50.640 I have one question for you.

06:08:51.580 You said you got a kid, right?

06:08:53.060 Is the guy paying child support?

06:08:55.660 Yes, he does.

06:08:56.440 But I would like to add just my child's father, he is amazing.

06:09:05.820 He is a very hard worker.

06:09:07.480 He's very involved.

06:09:08.720 I would not switch him with anyone else.

06:09:11.940 Um, he, since he does make so much money, um.

06:09:19.880 Minnesota wise man donated $20.

06:09:22.640 I'm sorry that came off way, very, very wrong.

06:09:26.040 My bad.

06:09:27.060 I wasn't body shaming these girls.

06:09:29.500 My complete apologies, ladies.

06:09:31.220 I have not ever met a boob, B-E-E-E-E, that I did not love.

06:09:37.820 Nickelodeon donated $20.

06:09:39.900 Can I just point out all the tweets and offhand dick jokes by Ashley and cum demon?

06:09:45.480 The only funny one was when Ashley quoted a guy.

06:09:49.160 You mean Ali?

06:09:50.240 You mean, yeah.

06:09:51.880 You mean me?

06:09:52.640 I was funny?

06:09:55.040 Cool.

06:09:55.960 No, that's not what he said.

06:09:57.100 The guy was funny?

06:09:58.920 He doesn't know what he said.

06:09:59.960 I still tweeted it, though.

06:10:01.320 He, thank you.

06:10:05.940 Wait, so you're saying?

06:10:07.280 They initially, um, had deemed him to pay a really high amount.

06:10:14.260 Um, and I, I chose to lower it significantly.

06:10:20.640 But did the process go through the court?

06:10:22.720 Yes.

06:10:23.460 Okay.

06:10:23.860 And were you able to bring it outside of the court?

06:10:26.940 Or you just told the court, hey, this is being kind of nice to him.

06:10:30.860 You're like, hey, this is too high for him.

06:10:31.980 I'll just be honest with it.

06:10:32.440 So basically, when it came to our son getting to preschool age, he, what said that he was

06:10:39.180 like, yeah, like, cause he, at that point, he wasn't really paying me child support at

06:10:42.080 all before, before, uh, preschool.

06:10:44.260 And I think he was giving me like a hundred bucks a month, 200 at most.

06:10:48.260 Um, and I was mentioned how we were going to have to look into preschool.

06:10:53.300 He said, yeah, he understood to go figure that out basically.

06:10:56.440 And he'd be willing to pay half.

06:10:57.600 And then when it came to payment, he ghosted me.

06:11:01.180 Um, and I tried to be really reasonable with him, explained to him, look, I don't want to

06:11:05.260 have to do this through the courts.

06:11:06.200 If you go through the courts, they're going to see all your assets.

06:11:08.400 They're going to see how much money you make and it's going to screw you.

06:11:11.380 Like you're better off working with me.

06:11:13.460 I'm not trying to take all your money.

06:11:15.380 Um, and he ended up wanting to go the court route and then they ended up taking more than

06:11:22.660 what you wanted to do.

06:11:24.340 Well, so they initially, okay.

06:11:26.240 So they initially put it at a thousand.

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06:11:32.320 Brian, is your autistic OCD only when producing the pod or are you always OCD?

06:11:38.580 I'm, uh, probably generally a bit OCD, I would say.

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06:11:46.640 The reason we value women's lives over men is for the sake of population.

06:11:51.440 If there is an island with one man and 20 women and an island with one woman and 20 men,

06:11:57.440 which island will populate faster?

06:11:59.920 Oh.

06:12:00.140 By the way, the TTS is going to roll in really quick, so it should be a quick statement.

06:12:05.320 Preferably.

06:12:06.400 Or like a yes or no question, but it's just going to be one after the other.

06:12:10.320 So we won't be able to dedicate too much time to any given TTS.

06:12:16.200 No, we never hooked up.

06:12:32.340 He literally just invited me on to one of his streams and then it created like all this

06:12:36.240 online controversy, but I was with him at a sushi place.

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06:12:42.100 Women will pick toxic bad boys, then wonder why they don't trust men and also pick a bear

06:12:48.180 over a man, but are attracted to criminals.

06:12:52.380 It's true.

06:12:53.780 It's true.

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06:13:10.320 Yes, I've seen it.

06:13:11.420 I'll check it out.

06:13:12.020 Thank you, man.

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06:13:46.960 Will be raised to be the exact opposite of these folks.

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06:13:52.640 Hey, congratulations on the daughter, man.

06:13:55.140 And congratulations, you know, many years to her.

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06:14:02.760 Christ has risen.

06:14:04.040 It's always an entertaining show when Andrew is on the show schooling 304s.

06:14:10.160 Truly he has risen.

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06:14:17.600 Yo, can these girls just straight up answer a hypothetical and not analyze the F out of

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06:14:35.520 Brian, sorry to bother you, but somehow I got demoted in the discord again.

06:14:41.100 Also, if these girls were in a forest with a bear, they'd be screaming for men to help

06:14:46.480 them.

06:14:46.920 True.

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06:14:55.640 It's not going to trigger through Super Chats and we're not going to read the Super Chats.

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06:15:03.280 I see some of the $20 Super Chats coming in, but we'll show them, but.

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06:15:29.720 Oh, okay.

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06:15:34.660 Hi, everyone on the podcast, smile off topic, but I wanted to say that I'm an even bigger

06:15:40.740 fan of Andrew since he went head to head with Wes.

06:15:43.900 Andrew keeps that same energy no matter who he is debating with.

06:15:47.780 Show us your tummy, Andrew.

06:15:51.300 TTS loaded like an AR-15 magazine.

06:15:53.480 Allie, you have such a bright and beautiful smile.

06:15:55.340 Brian, are you ever going to drink your tea?

06:15:58.660 It's probably warm now.

06:16:00.800 Go grab him another Gustavo, my tea.

06:16:02.840 Oh, you're Arizona.

06:16:04.180 You don't even crack it open.

06:16:05.520 Yeah, no, it's just there.

06:16:06.760 It's just there.

06:16:08.720 Thank you.

06:16:09.760 Thank you, guys.

06:16:10.800 Appreciate it.

06:16:11.740 Let's see.

06:16:12.180 Hold on here.

06:16:13.320 Oh, wait.

06:16:13.860 So going back, you...

06:16:15.300 So they put it at 1,000 and then he tried to take...

06:16:19.080 Nope.

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06:16:52.600 Yay.

06:16:53.180 She said like...

06:16:53.840 You didn't say much though, right?

06:16:55.240 One day.

06:16:56.340 She said...

06:16:57.120 Oh, I call her.

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06:17:05.260 Great cast all around and keep hitting the gym.

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06:17:11.260 Wait.

06:17:11.700 What?

06:17:12.860 Thank you.

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06:17:15.040 Thank you, Buckley.

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06:18:10.700 Panel guests, would you call Brian handsome?

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06:18:19.440 What's the difference between an alligator and a crocodile?

06:18:23.360 One will see you later and one will see you after a while.

06:18:27.100 That's funny, Crispy.

06:18:28.960 LOL.

06:18:30.940 You can answer the TTS if you want to.

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06:18:36.700 Brian, would you take a bullet for a woman you loved?

06:18:40.120 Like you marry a girl, spend years with her, no kids, but you love her.

06:18:45.340 No.

06:18:45.720 Bullet?

06:18:46.520 No.

06:18:47.540 Wouldn't do it.

06:18:51.100 That's that.

06:18:52.160 Damn.

06:18:53.280 That's chaotic.

06:18:53.760 I wouldn't do it.

06:18:54.560 There's probably more coming through.

06:18:56.580 One of the chatters asked if you would...

06:18:59.040 You guys announced that.

06:19:00.620 What?

06:19:00.980 Huh?

06:19:01.140 If we find him handsome.

06:19:02.820 Yeah.

06:19:03.800 Oh, but like in the context of the pun.

06:19:06.780 Thank you.

06:19:08.360 Let me just respond by saying...

06:19:10.060 I took some milk.

06:19:12.200 Alex.

06:19:13.240 Percy Ockels donated $20.

06:19:15.920 I asked a pregnant woman, bear or man?

06:19:18.960 Obviously she said bear.

06:19:20.860 Then I flipped it and asked bear or woman?

06:19:23.560 Crazily, I heard a voice from her stomach say bear.

06:19:26.920 I'm more likely to make it to birth.

06:19:29.140 Wait, did we show the super chats?

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06:19:33.500 The...

06:19:33.860 Gustavo, careful.

06:19:35.380 The 20s?

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06:19:39.040 Cobra la la la la la la la la la la la la la la.

06:19:43.580 The what?

06:19:44.920 It's true, you do.

06:19:46.040 You look like the Baroness from G.I. Joe.

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06:19:48.900 Andrew, please wash your bra from time to time.

06:19:52.180 IT stinks all the way to my Miami mansion.

06:19:55.320 You have the biggest tigol bitties of all panel.

06:19:57.780 I BET you on a legal boxing match to CWHO's right.

06:20:02.160 Andrew, your response?

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06:20:07.940 Brian, get two internet lines.

06:20:10.820 That's a thing you can do.

06:20:12.380 Thank you and Andrew for doing the Lord's work.

06:20:15.340 Also, don't let Minnie back on.

06:20:17.100 Show me your tummy.

06:20:17.480 She makes me want to change the dang channel.

06:20:20.140 Thank you.

06:20:21.460 Oh, she's nice.

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06:20:26.820 Andrew, if you like political slash societal books, you should read one called Rules for

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06:20:34.280 I think you'd enjoy it.

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06:20:39.740 Andrew, I have different views on Orthodox Christianity.

06:20:43.380 I do believe that they view, just like Catholicism, that you have to earn your way into heaven.

06:20:49.940 That's why Martin Luther disagreed with Rome.

06:20:52.880 Well, you're wrong.

06:20:53.660 That's not an Orthodox belief.

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06:20:58.180 Ladies, if you lower your standards a little, you'll be surprised how many quality men are

06:21:03.660 still out there.

06:21:05.020 Me, six figures for years.

06:21:07.780 Six foot, but no six pack.

06:21:09.980 I don't drink beer.

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06:21:17.740 Whoops, I meant to say strumpet last TTS.

06:21:20.460 I'll forgive it.

06:21:21.260 I'll forgive it.

06:21:21.600 Brian, would you take a bullet for a bear or one of these strumpets?

06:21:26.340 I'd do it for the bear.

06:21:28.140 No, Brian says strumpet, but I say harlot.

06:21:30.720 I like that bear.

06:21:31.600 $20.

06:21:32.520 And you, use Mac your fat as GOT da moon.

06:21:37.120 That's a bag of trash you.

06:21:39.220 Got ten inch arms and tits.

06:21:42.360 Ben don't have tits.

06:21:46.280 Thank you.

06:21:46.820 Okay.

06:21:48.120 Give it a $20.

06:21:49.200 A woman is in the woods with a bear and a man in the woods.

06:21:54.700 The bear attacks the woman.

06:21:56.940 The man takes off because she preferred the bear over the man.

06:22:01.220 I changed the bag

06:22:06.180 Please release the Chilene prisoner of war

06:22:09.340 He's suffered enough

06:22:10.840 This much women prattle is cruel

06:22:13.140 Unjust and against the Geneva Conventions

06:22:16.260 The Geneva

06:22:17.020 Damn free Nick

06:22:22.920 What about me?

06:22:25.900 What about me?

06:22:26.460 What about you?

06:22:29.100 Nobody wants free me

06:22:30.260 Nobody wants it for you

06:22:33.440 Did they all come through?

06:22:35.820 Oh god

06:22:36.260 There's probably more coming

06:22:37.840 Wait so

06:22:38.580 You're probably going to get into

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06:22:43.640 I am with Andrew

06:22:45.520 Big red flag to have a chick with a stupid mfing voice like that

06:22:49.440 To all the girls

06:22:50.880 How much negative feedback do you need for your choices

06:22:54.160 Before you decide to change

06:22:56.100 I don't know keep giving us more

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06:23:00.140 Based Andrew as always W discord

06:23:03.660 Andrew Wilson versus Bryson Gray will be legendary

06:23:06.860 Has anybody seen Blue Mountain State?

06:23:10.680 There's actually an episode about the

06:23:14.440 Ryan you should set that up

06:23:15.520 You should set up an Andrew Wilson versus Bryson Gray debate on the whatever

06:23:18.720 Is that the rapper?

06:23:20.440 Who's Bryson?

06:23:21.440 The CC

06:23:22.500 What's his name?

06:23:23.580 Yeah he's a rapper apologist

06:23:24.920 Yeah

06:23:25.400 What would the debate be on?

06:23:29.100 It would be on

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06:23:34.740 This woman cope is only able to exist in modernity

06:23:38.920 Take away the infrastructure that men have provided for you

06:23:42.360 And you'll revert back to your nature by running back to men

06:23:45.680 Happy Pasco Andrew

06:23:47.380 This is risen friend

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06:23:52.980 Who believes as I'm male or female

06:23:55.400 Under 25 should be promiscuous until you find what you like

06:23:58.980 Until your frontal lobe is fully developed

06:24:01.380 Keep it ar-ski-ski-ski

06:24:03.260 Yeah the frontal lobe argument is actually quite stupid

06:24:08.600 Wait

06:24:12.120 What?

06:24:13.960 It's not

06:24:14.440 Sunny blows everyone who owns Helldivers 2 on Steam

06:24:17.160 Do your duty to Super Earth and give a negative review

06:24:20.160 They're requiring you link PSN account

06:24:21.820 Also what happened to the e-girl TTS voice

06:24:24.040 E-girl TTS

06:24:25.120 Huh?

06:24:26.380 Just like me

06:24:27.220 I don't know if we had the e-girl

06:24:29.320 Is it not working?

06:24:32.460 That's weird

06:24:32.980 Hold on let me try to fix something here

06:24:34.820 Is there something wrong with your voice?

06:24:36.880 Thank you

06:24:37.300 I think it's cute

06:24:38.020 Did we?

06:24:38.680 I don't think we ever had an e-girl TTS voice

06:24:40.600 Don't think we had it

06:24:43.440 Was he talking about the

06:24:45.140 Wait did the

06:24:45.640 The one from SoFlo

06:24:47.120 Oh it did come through

06:24:47.920 What were you saying?

06:24:49.000 Go ahead

06:24:49.180 Oh was it that weird like

06:24:50.880 Accent voice on the

06:24:53.020 The woman that he was talking about

06:24:54.860 The TTS

06:24:55.400 I'm not sure

06:24:55.600 So child support

06:24:57.940 Yeah you

06:24:59.500 It came in at a thousand

06:25:01.120 And then he

06:25:02.220 Sorry

06:25:02.860 He took me back to court

06:25:04.540 Thinking he was going to get it lowered

06:25:06.340 And they ended up realizing

06:25:08.920 His pay stubs weren't up to date

06:25:10.460 The previous time

06:25:11.360 So then they deemed it even higher

06:25:12.700 And he had asked if he could step out

06:25:16.880 To have a conversation with me

06:25:18.000 And we did

06:25:18.620 And I basically told him

06:25:19.580 If he was willing to pay me back

06:25:21.700 Like a certain amount of money

06:25:23.140 That he owed me

06:25:23.800 Due to not paying

06:25:24.600 The preschool payments

06:25:26.100 When he was supposed to

06:25:27.520 That I would lower it

06:25:29.400 And so he did

06:25:30.520 He paid me the money

06:25:32.180 And I lowered it

06:25:33.280 And what did you lower it to?

06:25:36.200 700

06:25:36.600 700 a month

06:25:38.220 And he was

06:25:38.660 He was paying a thousand

06:25:40.140 And then it went up to what?

06:25:41.380 1600

06:25:41.740 I don't know why

06:25:43.280 It's not triggering

06:25:44.520 Hold on

06:25:45.260 Just wanted to say

06:25:46.860 The one in the helmet

06:25:47.580 Your hair looks amazing

06:25:48.720 Also Helldivers 2

06:25:50.160 Drama is over

06:25:51.660 Sony back down

06:25:52.540 And aren't going through with it

06:25:53.780 Yeah drop the hair care routine

06:25:55.420 Yeah you really do have amazing hair

06:25:56.720 I just need shampoo and conditioner

06:25:58.580 And that's the secret

06:26:00.280 She's like I'm just born like this

06:26:01.780 Nice

06:26:04.760 Nice

06:26:07.440 So it was at a thousand

06:26:09.400 It went up to

06:26:10.500 1600

06:26:11.340 It was going to go up to 1600

06:26:12.240 But then you talked to him

06:26:14.660 You said hey pay me this

06:26:15.580 And then

06:26:15.900 And then you proposed to the court

06:26:18.600 Hey I'm willing to accept a lower payment

06:26:21.160 Yeah

06:26:21.560 And they accepted that?

06:26:22.980 Yeah

06:26:23.160 And we had a written up agreement

06:26:25.300 Basically that he had to pay me back

06:26:27.040 That certain amount of money

06:26:28.660 If he didn't

06:26:29.560 Then we were going to stick with

06:26:30.660 What county was this?

06:26:32.200 This is in California right?

06:26:33.480 Yeah Alameda

06:26:34.360 Is that up north?

06:26:35.800 It's in the Bay Area

06:26:36.680 Okay

06:26:36.980 I'm from the Bay

06:26:37.600 Yeah

06:26:38.060 Nice

06:26:39.120 So

06:26:40.520 Cause I always

06:26:42.600 I have always said too that

06:26:44.580 Cause for a while

06:26:45.380 He lived kind of far away

06:26:46.920 And so the custody was

06:26:48.800 Kind of funky at first

06:26:50.060 He just recently

06:26:51.920 Moved closer to me

06:26:53.060 So I mean

06:26:53.460 I would totally be

06:26:54.280 Willing to

06:26:55.260 Switch things up

06:26:56.740 Oh

06:26:58.820 You'd be willing to

06:26:59.700 Like

06:27:00.020 If he was

06:27:01.400 Did more visitation

06:27:02.720 Or

06:27:02.960 Yeah

06:27:03.440 Okay

06:27:04.480 Okay

06:27:04.580 Hmm

06:27:06.120 Interesting

06:27:07.840 Cause I

06:27:09.300 I always thought like

06:27:10.380 When it comes to the court right

06:27:12.300 They're always going to

06:27:14.220 Even if you're willing to

06:27:15.820 Accept a lower amount

06:27:16.900 They're just gonna take

06:27:18.300 As pretty much as much

06:27:19.360 As they

06:27:19.740 As the guidelines

06:27:21.480 Allow them to take

06:27:22.520 Regardless of your input

06:27:23.860 But

06:27:24.180 I

06:27:24.520 Maybe that's not the case

06:27:25.640 I don't know

06:27:26.060 I didn't have that situation

06:27:27.520 Happen to me

06:27:28.040 So

06:27:28.280 I don't know

06:27:29.200 You guys came to like

06:27:30.840 A mutual negotiation

06:27:32.560 Where

06:27:33.080 Okay

06:27:34.400 Yeah

06:27:34.800 Alright

06:27:35.140 So the

06:27:35.760 And the court accepted it

06:27:36.860 Alright

06:27:37.060 That's fair

06:27:37.580 That's fair

06:27:38.200 A lot of men

06:27:39.540 Don't fear

06:27:40.220 You seemed

06:27:41.080 Sounds like you're reasonable

06:27:42.740 We're pretty good at

06:27:44.200 Like accommodating each other

06:27:45.300 Like if

06:27:45.800 On his custody day

06:27:47.280 He has something

06:27:48.120 That comes up at work

06:27:49.140 Like we're always willing

06:27:50.060 To switch things around

06:27:51.060 And accommodate

06:27:51.900 Each other's schedules

06:27:53.000 Right

06:27:53.680 Um

06:27:55.080 And

06:27:56.820 Does he have custody

06:27:59.280 Or

06:27:59.660 Yes

06:28:00.320 So

06:28:01.100 Is it 50-50

06:28:01.860 Or

06:28:02.200 It used to be like

06:28:03.160 80-20

06:28:03.760 I would say it's more

06:28:05.000 Like

06:28:05.720 60-40 now

06:28:09.500 Maybe

06:28:09.800 Mm-hmm

06:28:10.720 Okay

06:28:11.940 Huh

06:28:13.760 Oh

06:28:14.080 I had a question for this

06:28:15.040 But

06:28:15.280 It's not my mind

06:28:16.300 To me sounds like

06:28:17.800 Totally donated

06:28:18.620 20 dollars

06:28:19.620 To me

06:28:20.560 Can you say

06:28:21.520 If you go to the beach

06:28:22.620 Bring a towel

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06:28:53.520 $20. Love bears.

06:28:56.180 Google search what are the odds

06:28:57.700 of being attacked by a bear.

06:28:59.800 Being injured by a bear is approximately

06:29:01.760 one in 2.1 million.

06:29:03.940 More likely to be killed by another

06:29:05.820 human than a bear or a bee.

06:29:07.900 You gotta factor in encounters.

06:29:09.840 West underscore Virgina donated

06:29:11.740 $20. Thank you

06:29:13.820 Brixian for taking our numbers back

06:29:15.900 from the strumpets.

06:29:17.540 If you send the strumpets here,

06:29:19.600 we will feed them to the bears.

06:29:21.120 You're welcome. You're welcome to West Virginia.

06:29:23.040 I don't know why it's

06:29:25.000 DeForngeclo5. He donated

06:29:26.860 $20. Bears are

06:29:28.900 ruthless and do not end their prey once

06:29:30.940 they catch them like big cats do.

06:29:33.380 Also, the chance you run into

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06:29:54.760 Oh, the cow is there?

06:29:55.820 Oh, the cow is there?

06:29:55.900 Yeah.

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06:31:21.000 wanna go get high say it hey you wanna go get high

06:31:25.800 i don't even know i don't know what the reference is

06:31:33.120 that's from south park i think you sound kind of like gypsy rose

06:31:38.000 yes yeah people have said that a few times

06:31:42.240 you know she just divorced wait i have a question has a guy ever told you wait wait wait do the towel

06:31:47.600 do the towel thing now no tt if you go to the beach make sure to bring a towel

06:31:52.720 guys want to go get hot what the what the fuck wait i have a question like has a guy ever told you

06:32:02.080 to like do you talk dirty during sex um it depends like has a guy ever told you i do in my scenes yeah

06:32:09.360 has a guy ever told you to like be quiet

06:32:14.080 i feel like guys would be into her boys like have you ever noticed like during sex like a guy's just

06:32:18.880 like slowly started moving his hand to your mouth you know what i mean has that ever happened no

06:32:25.760 honestly i don't talk a ton during sex like unless i'm like making myself do it for a scene like it

06:32:31.920 just doesn't come natural you're not vocal i'm moan but i'm not like when i don't want you to

06:32:38.480 demonstrate but when like you moan is it like also in like like are you doing that japanese porn type

06:32:44.240 look me up to me stop the cap donated 20. i can't do that we got a professional

06:32:49.760 playing down the ground work brian love the podcast girl with black hair on the left is

06:32:55.760 based to me your voice is cap grow up thank you they're claiming it's fake is it true try to do

06:33:02.480 no i already did that it's like not very if it's fake that's so impressive she did this for so many

06:33:08.480 i'll do my outro then we'll do raid next year grandma pulled up

06:33:12.240 sirium 88 donated 20 dollars always great when andrew is on the pot

06:33:18.960 thank you thank i'll get that in a sec uh okay i don't know there's been some pretty amazing guests

06:33:24.240 lately jake rattlesnake i thought did a banger of a job he's a great guest he's good i always like to

06:33:30.080 see q as well i like to see all those guys um there's been some pretty amazing guests on this

06:33:34.720 podcast for sure absolutely absolutely uh all right let me do a couple uh announcements here so

06:33:41.760 let's see a couple things uh guys still looking for that lawyer in dubai that

06:33:48.240 fucking scammer david spearmint cr stevens fuck them uh we're gonna get it i'm it's my life

06:33:54.240 got you one got you one okay yeah oh really call later yeah you can you know dubai yeah if anybody in

06:34:00.080 the crucible the crucible crew knows anybody like a connection in dubai if you're part of the i don't

06:34:05.280 know the justice system whatever these guys are scamming they scam me they scammed other people two

06:34:09.440 thousand bucks uh out of dubai they're irish nationals i guess i don't know if they relinquish

06:34:14.320 their to move to i don't know how it works we'll talk after the show andrew also meant to say this on

06:34:21.040 the last one but brian love the podcast keep up the good work appreciate it also i think she sounds

06:34:26.480 closer to mickey mouse than toley jays i agree i don't know any mickey mouse lines though welcome to the

06:34:33.600 clubhouse it's the mickey mouse clubhouse come inside it's fun inside

06:34:41.920 nate donated twenty dollars hello all w andrew w brain gustavo it's time robot time

06:34:51.600 domo orogato mr roboto domo orogato mr roboto

06:34:58.960 the lucky underscore man donated twenty dollars there has only been 180 fatal human slash bear

06:35:06.160 conflicts in north america since 1784 when a good guy is given the right opportunities

06:35:12.720 alone in the forest or ocean gives the implication sunny in philly

06:35:16.560 um but it's the implication that's a good episode i love sunny about the boat thing yeah

06:35:26.800 is that is that what they say it's the implication yeah it's the implication

06:35:30.960 you're on a boat it's like i'm not gonna hurt her but it's the implication

06:35:35.520 uh okay does it change anything like ladies for for those of you who said bear what if you're like

06:35:41.200 would you prefer to be swimming in an ocean alone with men or like a shark that's so dumb

06:35:46.240 i don't even know where that came from i'm having like the most intense back spasm right now

06:35:51.280 um okay uh we are let me see uh can you get me a nice packet while i just do this outro thing

06:36:02.080 uh one of the big blue ones that one's yeah um let's see sorry guys i'm just trying to gather

06:36:08.880 my thoughts here while my back's exploding into a million okay uh let's see we have

06:36:13.920 oh we're gonna do a twitch raid actually let me get what's that

06:36:20.400 what's up madison uh yeah that or wait just uh navy blue navy blue it's on the bottom layer

06:36:30.160 uh we're gonna raid let me do my intro before really quick outro excuse me uh so

06:36:36.800 oh gg gg well played to the panel good show guys good show so flow act 954 donated 20 dollars

06:36:47.920 brian my last question does the panel agree or disagree

06:36:53.680 that's what was the question they obviously i agree they obviously agree obviously agree okay gg

06:37:00.080 well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out if you're watching

06:37:03.680 on youtube uh thank you for we are gonna i'll do a twitch raid then we'll wrap uh thank you for tuning

06:37:08.880 in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that

06:37:11.520 thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show we will be live again tuesday

06:37:16.240 5 p.m pacific are a good guest for that one any girls who want to be on the show we're supposed to

06:37:20.320 have a big guest on this show i don't know if i should really get into it i don't know if you guys know

06:37:23.920 uh sadia khan uh she was supposed to be the guest on the show today but i don't know if it's worth

06:37:32.080 getting into it when are we getting rachel spill the tea should i spill it spill the tea well i don't

06:37:38.880 know if any of you know know her but basically like she we had her scheduled to come on and then she uh

06:37:46.560 uh and whatever minnesota the wise man donated twenty dollars in the time of chimpanzees i was

06:37:54.080 a monkey butane in my veins and i'm out to cut the junkie with the plastic eyeballs spray paint the

06:38:00.320 vegetables dog food stalls with the beefcake panty hose i'll just say this there's there's more details

06:38:08.320 i like to be fair when i'm like talking about any sort of conflict i like to try to be you know give all

06:38:14.720 the facts i try not to like if there's anything that paints me negatively i'll actually include

06:38:19.280 that um i won't like withhold anything that potentially makes me look bad and just or overemphasize

06:38:27.040 anything that makes them look bad essentially though the big crux of it was uh she was already

06:38:32.800 planning to be in la we're two hours north she wanted to get the she wanted to get have us pay for

06:38:39.920 an uber there and back and then hotel uh i offered for like perhaps there were some girls that were

06:38:47.760 going to be on the panel today i was like hey maybe one of the girls who is already driving from la they

06:38:53.840 can just pick you up and just drive you back same night didn't sound like she was interested i wasn't

06:38:58.320 really prepared she's i wasn't prepared to pay for one because we already booked her and i already booked

06:39:06.400 her and when i booked her that would have been the opportunity to have requested compensation

06:39:12.240 to come on the show not granted i think she did bring it up like about two weeks two weeks or so

06:39:18.240 before but it should have been brought up initially when i booked her and i actually did make she said

06:39:24.960 she didn't want for her panel she didn't want a bunch of of of girls on the panel and i actually

06:39:30.320 accommodated her and i said well i can't promise it'll be totally without of girls but

06:39:36.320 i can try to limit it and you did yeah usually there's two yeah so i mean i i already went ahead

06:39:42.960 and accommodated the panel to limit the amount of of girls so i already met her there but then

06:39:48.080 two weeks after that after i started accommodating her request she uh infinity project basically

06:39:54.320 seven hundred dollars in compensation aspen i am a conservative 29 year old christian male i think

06:40:00.960 you're cool and have similar interests mind if i hit up your head uh i have a date tomorrow so i feel

06:40:09.200 like i should wait he's shooting a shot though um so yeah i mean basically just um

06:40:16.480 yeah i mean she was trying to make it like i guess the one issue is she should have brought that up

06:40:22.320 from the get-go who is she like what what what kind of content she's like a psychologist slash dating

06:40:27.360 dating coach i guess she helps men with dating um fairly popular um but uh and then but then she

06:40:35.200 started saying well you know you really it's really not worth my time to drive two hours

06:40:42.240 and i perhaps i should guess she wanted the hotel um to go on the podcast i really don't get if i'm

06:40:47.520 recalling correctly i could be slightly off here this isn't perfectly verbatim but she said it wasn't worth

06:40:53.120 her time her management has you know questions as to the collaboration if it's worth it for her if

06:40:58.640 it's worth you know collaborating with us perhaps because of our reputation and then also she said

06:41:06.160 something along the lines of um i don't really get any benefit or get anything from going on your

06:41:13.520 podcast i was like okay why would she accept in the first place i don't know i don't know hubris but

06:41:22.000 and then i told her i was like not to be mean nope and i told her i was like you're the b-side

06:41:30.800 she's got a big following but i'm not looking not to play a fucking dick measuring contest she's

06:41:35.600 the b-side we're i don't want to do well we're we don't want her anyways when are we getting rachel

06:41:41.120 wilson uh rich wilson is coming uh it at end of the month oh nice at the end of the month so

06:41:48.240 but uh yeah just kind of god help you all god yeah yeah so we were to watch that one

06:41:57.760 we were gonna have sadia khan i tried to build a panel for her but yeah she just fit kind of

06:42:02.240 brian's lint roller donated twenty dollars a couple days ago question for of girls would you rather be

06:42:08.000 stuck in a room with one of your simps or a random man she got yeah um brian's lint roller would

06:42:15.200 you rather be stuck in a room with one of their of simps or a random man it depends is it a random

06:42:22.320 of simp or can i choose random of simp random man oh that's such a good question that's hard because

06:42:29.360 it's so random you know there's fans that are like stalkers and there's some that are like they

06:42:33.120 would just worship the ground you walk they bow down yeah they'd be totally i would say maybe random

06:42:38.160 man just to be weird but not dangerous some of them are just like people i went to high school

06:42:43.920 with too to be honest yeah for sure a lot of them oh my goodness

06:42:51.600 okay um so yeah we will be live again tuesday at 5 p.m pacific any girls who want to be on the

06:42:57.760 show dm out whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara uh i am going to do twitch

06:43:03.200 trade oh sevens in the chat the energy donated 20 dollars you let him it raw raw you didn't have

06:43:09.680 second thoughts thoughts now you're a single mom mom now you're a single mom mom hashtag abdul get

06:43:18.240 the fucking rocks hashtag frenic number eight at 18.

06:43:21.600 for shizzled all right uh oh okay 90 underscores ebra's donated 20 dollars if women are triggered by

06:43:35.040 andrew's tone when he's embarrassing them with his arguments what will they complain about when their

06:43:39.760 world views are being destroyed by his wife rachel in a few weeks true that guy slingshot donated 20

06:43:48.000 dollars when are we getting nala back on the show you guys got a dm where i've been trying i've you

06:43:53.280 know i've been trying to coordinate potentially getting her back um it's been uh it's been a

06:43:58.800 little struggle she moved from california though i don't know i forgot where she moved but she left

06:44:03.600 california uh rachel wilson andrew i think it's time for you to start taking what the uh viagra and listen

06:44:11.280 to wes watson advice and shave your arms and go to the gym and become fit and filthy rich i'm tired

06:44:16.480 being a of your parochia show us your tummy what the fuck was that shit bro oh my god okay some

06:44:26.720 troll posing is yeah yeah of course not her really funny too because minnesota wise man donated 20

06:44:34.400 here's the flex brian andrew and crew all deserves flexed bicep flexed bicep flexed bicep flexed bicep

06:44:42.400 flexed bicep okay we're gonna raid whoa grandma can you flexed bicep flexed bicep flexed bicep flexed

06:44:49.280 bicep flexed bicep what is this real all right we're doing a raid those of you on twitch thank you for

06:44:54.560 tuning in on twitch oh wait really quick pull up the twitch tab guys go to twitch.tv really quick if

06:44:59.760 if you're watching us on twitch

06:45:07.600 anime war zone

06:45:08.640 follow twitch.tv slash whatever drops to follow jobs i hope you guys will have isaac butterfield back

06:45:13.440 on the show we will have isaac butterfield back on the show he was great guys twitch.tv slash whatever

06:45:18.320 drops to follow drops prime sub if you have one right before we do this raid guys drops follow

06:45:24.000 drops prime sub oh my god the follow's on fire thank you guys appreciate it uh bring it back to uh

06:45:29.520 after this up pr aquatic donated 30 dollars thank you man appreciate the live stream brian and andrew

06:45:36.080 take care of girls our wannabe victims and delusional god help this generation thank you

06:45:43.600 it doesn't seem to be so far all right we are doing a raid for whoa grandma guys uh she's 82 be nice to

06:45:51.040 her she's playing world of warcraft it looks like she's in the middle of the raid so i'll know how uh she's

06:45:54.960 probably fucking locked in tuned in zoned in i don't know if but i'm gonna send the raid over

06:46:01.200 there in just 10 seconds so she is playing world of warcraft she's a fucking legend guys be nice to

06:46:07.120 her in the chat uh tell her to come on the whatever podcast we'll talk about dating in the um during the

06:46:14.240 awesome 60s i guess i don't know all right i'm rating you guys on twitch 07 is the chat thank you for

06:46:19.280 watching on twitch sending now can we see her reaction it might trigger we'll see we'll see

06:46:24.720 see uh she what she's playing retail man oh well i guess she always plays right now yeah i'm more of

06:46:29.680 a classic andy when it comes to world of warcraft she might have her notifications her alerts uh off oh my

06:46:37.680 goodness it's a whatever way w whatever welcome she's so adorable trying to you know give her a

06:46:48.240 little love you know uh are they gonna wipe are they gonna wipe on this boss no they got this they

06:46:56.320 they got it in the bag they got it in the bag okay i don't think so i think she just gets all the

06:47:01.760 viewers yeah uh okay since we're gonna get offline like somebody to somewhere else uh be guys be sure

06:47:10.160 to uh go check out andrew's youtube channel the crucible he was so cute on youtube the crucible check

06:47:16.320 it out check it but check them out andrew you're gonna be streaming for a little bit after this or of

06:47:21.360 course yeah i'll be doing um probably a 40 minute after show going through all the super chats on my

06:47:27.440 end that kind of thing okay i did want to thank the entirety of the panel for coming out this evening

06:47:32.320 and arguing with me i take none of this personally and i bear no grudges whatsoever i appreciate the

06:47:38.240 spirited back and forth even with you it was great um i appreciate it from all of us here whatever

06:47:45.040 podcast i really appreciate everybody coming out it was sure swell fellas

06:47:51.680 that was good actually he might be better at it he might be better at your voice than you are

06:47:56.320 seriously andrew you should consider her voice acting that was impressive

06:48:02.560 that was good it was good thanks andrew wait last thing last thing everyone's body count

06:48:09.280 starting with you oh god i lost count forever ago in the hundreds no like over a hundred

06:48:17.040 hundred thousand that's the number for the day definitely your dad um a couple other people

06:48:27.200 so it's between 100 and 200 probably probably around that ally uh definitely not anywhere near

06:48:34.480 that amount right you want to give us a number range probably like under 10 under 10

06:48:39.920 yeah me sure it doesn't matter because everyone before my husband was boring so

06:48:48.400 do you want to give us a range

06:48:51.680 i mean i have less the mic is like i have more fingers let's just say that you had what i have more

06:48:57.920 fingers oh so less than 10. less than 10. less than 10. she could count on oh she just stole my line

06:49:06.960 she told me she was gonna say that oh okay two two i'm in the teens 19 no oh okay

06:49:18.400 all right cool all right guys uh oh seven's in the chat thank you for tuning in

06:49:23.440 good night guy oh what's that oh i'll get that yeah i'll just i'll do that right now uh while i do

06:49:29.680 that let me just double check everything i think we're good there um hold on okay uh we will be

06:49:36.000 live like i said tuesday 5 p.m pacific thank you guys for tuning in oh seven's in the chat like the

06:49:39.840 video on the way out and i hope you guys have a good night and we'll see you guys next time

06:49:45.120 good night guys

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