Whatever Podcast - Elon Musk WATCHES Whatever？! Andrew Wilson! HEATED DEBATE With Liberal Feminist？! ｜ Dating Talk #140

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00:03:49.220 actually you know what before we'll do uh we'll have nick pull up the tweet uh from from ellen elon oh my god

00:03:56.440 sorry elon

00:04:00.900 the first for you i don't think you can be sexist towards men and i don't think you can be racist

00:04:06.500 towards white people how have you run yeah so all right somebody shared that it got uh eight million

00:04:12.460 views then elon musk their respondent their literal origin of the word slave refer and we get into like

00:04:20.540 you know she talks about slaves in that video so uh yeah that was a cool little moment he's on he's

00:04:25.320 coming on the show on tuesday just kidding kidding um anyways disclaimer the views expressed by the

00:04:30.040 guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast by the way via discord since

00:04:35.220 i brought it up we have andrew wilson joining us uh oh no it's okay nick so without further ado

00:04:41.840 we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location so where

00:04:46.080 you're from in occupation go ahead my name is jojo um location right now san diego um i'm a full-time

00:04:52.680 student getting my master's in international affairs and then i twitch stream on the channel curb

00:04:57.600 have been on the side you said you're from uh san diego well that's where you currently live do you

00:05:01.980 go to uh ucsd or san diego state yes okay well you said you're in college and you live in san diego so

00:05:08.160 i'm just by process of elimination okay okay and so um did you say age 25 25 are you getting your

00:05:20.000 masters yeah masters in in what did you say international affairs okay what about you uh my

00:05:25.960 name is esme i'm 28 i live in the inland empire i work in human resources and side job doing uh music

00:05:33.480 festival reviews and you do fire breathing and i do fire breathing burlesque did you bring anything

00:05:40.100 with you i mean what do we need do we need liquor and a lighter is that how it works no i mean unless

00:05:47.140 you want to catch that beard on fire i'll pass uh but uh okay that's very cool um how long have you

00:05:55.400 been doing the fire breathing uh fire breathing i want to say coming up on three years but fire

00:06:01.840 performing or manipulating for uh quite some time have you ever burnt yourself oh yeah many times

00:06:09.140 yeah is there any my eyelashes eyelashes yeah okay what about you hi my name's like uh do you do that

00:06:16.420 like raves oh i adjust we need to do some audio adjustment um it's is there anything you can do

00:06:25.100 andrew on your end to i'll take a i'll take a look but i'm getting a an echo i'm not sure why

00:06:30.680 that's probably my room you might are you watching the stream andrew no no the echo's gone it sounds like

00:06:41.160 it just it just comes up when i uh when i chime in so so you hear yourself speaking yeah yeah but

00:06:47.620 only only for a second so are you streaming it's good now are you streaming or i am yeah okay you

00:06:54.780 might there's probably maybe somebody in your chat might be able to help you there's probably some

00:06:59.240 setting on discord that you might have switched on that can address the your echo that you're hearing

00:07:04.940 of yourself um i don't i don't hear it anymore i think we have to reduce andrew's volume in discord

00:07:13.780 so nick do you know how to you should see a volume button for you to play with

00:07:18.300 um go ahead all right my name is malia i'm 27 years old i currently live in los andrews but i'm from

00:07:25.540 carpinteria so nice and close okay um i work full-time at an only fans slash social media agency

00:07:33.160 and then i'm also a twitch dreamer as well wait you work at the agency yes i don't do so you don't

00:07:38.980 do oh no what's what do you do what do i do uh well we have a few models and you might like

00:07:44.560 set them up with collaborations track their content promo stuff okay and you so you kind of

00:07:51.240 help market them or yeah okay yeah yeah it's not just their only fans it might be instagram and stuff

00:07:56.360 like that okay but you don't do any of stuff no okay what about you hello i'm malik underscore

00:08:03.100 zero four i'm a full-time twitch dreamer a part-time clown um and i'm 24 years old

00:08:09.100 from the appalachian mountains but i'm temporarily out here in la

00:08:12.300 go ahead i'm michaela i'm a hairstylist and salon manager i'm 27 and i'm from atlanta georgia

00:08:25.280 hi i'm bella i'm from las vegas i'm 21 and i'm currently a receptionist for a beverage distribution

00:08:35.800 center welcome thank you my name is celeste i'm 26 i'm from huntington beach and i work in management

00:08:43.720 my name is madison i'm 19 i'm originally from san diego but i currently reside in santa barbara i go

00:08:51.500 to school i'm a student at santa barbara city college studying business and communication

00:08:55.700 and i work in the whatever podcast and then we have our dear friend andrew wilson

00:09:02.380 yeah my name is andrew wilson i am the host of the one and only crucible one of the fastest growing

00:09:09.700 debate channels on the internet i appreciate uh brian having me on appreciate the whatever audience for

00:09:15.600 coming out tonight and i appreciate the uh the girls for showing up uh nick were you able to lower 0.98

00:09:21.360 his except malik except malik everybody else fuck you too andrew wait let's do a little troubleshooting 0.99

00:09:27.620 on this nick can you just lower his volume significantly yeah and andrew can you recite 0.99

00:09:34.860 the gettysburg address for us while we're doing some four score seven years ago boost it nick

00:09:41.720 as we looked at this great nation or stuff happened and also things i think that's good

00:09:50.320 i think that should be good um and i do want to bring it to the chat i want to ask the chat sorry

00:09:56.200 guys you know it's uh when we do these call-ins there's some additional technical uh considerations

00:10:01.920 to the viewers uh does his audio sounds good one in the chat if the audio sounds good there two in the

00:10:08.380 chat if uh it needs some adjustments one in the chat sounds good two in the chat if we need a little

00:10:16.640 bit of adjustment i'm seeing a bunch of ones so i think it's good um nick if you can keep an eye on

00:10:24.040 the chat throughout the stream just see if there's any audience feedback is if he's too uh if it's too

00:10:30.400 loud he's too low so we'll just uh we'll we'll see how it is throughout the course of the stream so

00:10:36.460 going around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single

00:10:42.060 talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult

00:10:48.100 harem whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest

00:10:53.160 relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead uh currently single haven't been in a

00:10:58.040 relationship for around two years my longest relationship is four years

00:11:02.500 so you was uh your last relationship the four-year relationship it's my only relationship

00:11:08.300 you've been single for two years why did he dump you i broke up with him um but um it's because of

00:11:16.440 distance and just how busy we got was it always long distance it was always long always yeah it

00:11:21.460 started did it start i visited a friend in college and that's how i met her uh met him

00:11:25.940 and then um what was the distance uh i lived at the time in washington state and he lived in

00:11:34.500 sacramento it's pretty pretty far yeah what's the drive well i flew oh you'd fly okay uh why did you

00:11:44.360 break up with him just the distance and then i started at ucsd and then uh we became like just way

00:11:49.980 too busy okay good times cool what about you i'm divorced uh i've been separated since

00:11:57.860 2018 2019 uh but we were together since which year 2018 2019 i don't know there's so much stuff that

00:12:06.960 has happened since then when were you actually so you were separated when when were you got the

00:12:14.160 divorce officially divorced 2021 okay wow that so you initiated the divorce in 2018 um no we were

00:12:22.860 actually separated and um moved away kind of just forgot about the whole thing that sounds mean to

00:12:31.080 say but um i guess the legal processes for divorces are pretty expensive so we just waited okay so you

00:12:38.620 were divorced you got the actual divorce in 2021 you said right have you any dating it's tough dating

00:12:47.000 after being married and today's day and age is really weird wait so okay you're 28 how long were you

00:12:52.620 married um i was married in 2015 2015 yeah and how long were you together with him before you were

00:13:01.420 married i was 18 so you were okay wait so i think it would have been from uh the age of 18 till the

00:13:09.360 age of 25 so you guys met in 2014 we met in the end of 2013 but we didn't um really get together

00:13:17.360 until so that's kind of one of the things a lot like because dating apps really kind of sprung around

00:13:22.600 i think it was tinder kind of came into i think 2012 and then but so you've kind of missed the dating

00:13:32.160 app apocalypse yeah i think so i have you since your separation have you i've i've tried to um but

00:13:42.560 like i said the dating scene is really weird hookup culture is like a huge thing and um not really about

00:13:49.700 it i feel like i get way too attached and that's just like not my style um and then on top of that

00:13:55.300 people are they can't keep conversation on at least on dating apps and it's just like somebody replies

00:14:02.820 and then like the conversation dies off within a day or two and then people don't reply they're like

00:14:08.860 oh sorry i haven't been on for like two months um hi there again so i'm just like i'm over you

00:14:16.000 okay convo we could that's actually an interesting um thing that we can talk about convo dies down

00:14:22.520 later but okay so any any dating at all since the separation um serious dating no

00:14:31.880 unserious dating um i guess like going on dates have you had a rebound has there been a rebound yes

00:14:39.540 multiple rebounds no one rebound uh two rebounds yeah so okay so this is the thing no so this is

00:14:46.980 the thing so uh i started dating this person when i was 18 right and so during my early 20s i was

00:14:54.520 together with this one person and so afterwards coming out of a separation while one being young

00:15:01.660 trying to find myself and like figure out who i am as an individual but really moving so i was in

00:15:08.100 california moved to arizona and so i didn't know anybody and all i knew was that person and so my

00:15:14.860 being was really a reflection of this one person that i was dating and so coming out of that i was

00:15:23.220 like well i've never like participated in this hookup culture thing and my friends were like the best way

00:15:28.640 to get over someone is to get under someone so i was like all right let's try it and then i tried it

00:15:34.220 and i was like yeah that's not really for me um i felt like i got attached and then um they were just

00:15:41.740 like you wake up in the morning and they're either like gone or you're done and with whatever it is that

00:15:47.260 you're doing and then they're like all right i got stuff to do like get out and so that doesn't make

00:15:51.680 me feel very good so i just like decide not to partake in said scene wait so would you would

00:15:59.140 you say that you were trying to find yourself no are you sure yeah you weren't trying to find

00:16:06.440 yourself i don't think that i was what i was trying to find myself i think it's been a lot

00:16:09.940 easier to find myself now and like you know 25 to 28 now it's just i'm more like all right i know

00:16:18.100 what i want i know what i don't want i know what i don't want to participate in and um hopefully

00:16:23.480 that opinion keeps forever changing because we're forever evolving gotcha okay so you did a little

00:16:32.960 bit of the hookup culture thing but didn't really work out no okay what about you we'll come back to

00:16:39.440 some of this stuff i'm single i have been single for about two and a half years and my longest

00:16:45.040 relationship was like three and a half three and a half all right what about you yeah i'm also single

00:16:52.480 my only relationship uh was for two years and i've been single for three years

00:16:56.860 um i'm currently in a two and a half year relationship and it's been my longest consistent

00:17:03.540 one longest consistent one what's your longest on and off again relationship i think equivalent to

00:17:10.820 like on for like a year off for like six months and back on so this is the longest okay yeah sure

00:17:19.300 collectively what about you um i am currently in a relationship and my longest relationship

00:17:24.800 was about four and a half years how long have you been in this current relationship um since october

00:17:32.360 so a few months but we've been seeing each other since march of last year since so almost a year

00:17:39.980 seeing each other but officially dating since october were you wait so you were like a situation ship

00:17:44.580 prior to getting the official title yeah because we were long distance um okay yes still long

00:17:50.180 distance no we live together now oh okay yeah huh were you dating other guys during that talking stage

00:17:56.980 no i've whenever i'm talking to somebody i'm only talking to that one person so okay it was just me

00:18:02.700 and him what about you i'm in a relationship and my longest relationship was on and off for about four

00:18:09.980 years how long have you currently been uh in a relationship uh october as well so like four

00:18:17.480 five months okay maddie what about you i'm in a relationship my current one is my longest it's a

00:18:24.660 year and a half like tomorrow actually andrew what about you yeah i'm uh happily married and i have

00:18:32.680 been for a long long time all right he's married cool good times how many years uh over a decade

00:18:44.080 all right cool so let's see there's a couple things i wanted to touch on single single for both of

00:18:53.080 you for two years you're for three years uh so when you say single what does that mean because i mean

00:19:00.120 come on you guys you're all attractive girls right so there's some guys in the picture no no guys in

00:19:07.540 the picture zero guys in the picture been on one day in the past two years wait hold on do we have 0.98

00:19:12.280 no only fans none of you none not a single holy shit boys wow thank oh wow that's i think i'm 0.84

00:19:21.300 your kind of semi i mean no i'm not i'm there well you don't you don't have of but you work for an 0.97

00:19:27.660 agency but that you could be the plumber you could be the the janitor that doesn't mean i really still

00:19:33.760 can't remember um not one only fans girl not one i know it's crazy right i mean i think we had one

00:19:41.620 recently is this the is this the first brian no we've had we've had a fair amount of episodes

00:19:47.420 without only fans girls but that's a w for the whatever podcast okay that's a conversation we were

00:19:53.020 having but i'm like i have an of but it's not that kind of of of that's such a weird statement

00:19:58.180 it's like okay so when you when people talk about only fan girls you think about like girls that do

00:20:03.320 adult content but like so i have patreon of but it's not for adult content it's for like you have a

00:20:08.800 patreon uh and she's on the site i'm on the site i just don't do adult content oh man disaster

00:20:17.360 we can no longer claim that this is a no i was like i don't want to say so you uh you have an

00:20:26.060 of but you post um they're like fire breathing videos what do you no not fire breathing they're

00:20:33.920 uh video and photo sets um you've made money on the only fans yes but it's not like sexual in nature

00:20:41.240 no okay all right she's not an only fan she's not no f girl or did you have something i was gonna

00:20:49.060 say i've made money on only fans too oh it's not from my own content i did i used to cam when i was

00:20:54.260 18 oh okay now the truth comes out all right so no it's like so i've i had faith in society i steered

00:21:03.440 away long from that like long time ago you used to do web camming correct so like full blown just

00:21:09.280 like camera up the hoo-ha oh boy no just looking right down the main screen no that's what camming

00:21:15.220 is it's just like so no there's there's different there's different ranges of ranges of like camming

00:21:22.240 right there's some girls that will go all like all out but then there's like topless and stuff like 1.00

00:21:27.720 that what's even the point like as i just don't even see no like i just why would a guy watch oh that's

00:21:35.180 like twitch streaming i guess kind of basically you're like it's like it's like twitch before

00:21:41.560 twitch existed oh okay yeah cool all right all right um but okay so you guys are nude at all like

00:21:50.720 topless yeah it's not twitch streaming let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's

00:21:54.120 you can't stream hold down that's it just no no no no no crazy like you never it was only from here

00:22:03.340 up i mean you were nude but you were like camera down there with oh so whatever yeah the truth is

00:22:09.440 coming out yeah okay her tips have been online yes so y'all are single okay but when's the last time

00:22:19.360 you went on a date with a guy i've only been on one date that's not my boyfriend in my life

00:22:26.320 okay so i think we need to define date though because a girl will like i've never had a private

00:22:33.500 dinner or any of that hung out privately with a guy and like because in all my life other than like 0.91

00:22:39.600 for example a girl will like go over to a guy's house they'll have dinner at his house they'll fuck 1.00

00:22:44.460 she's not going to call that a date that's weird is this the first time they're meeting 0.96

00:22:50.020 yeah it could be the first time they're meeting that's just why would you go over to someone's house

00:22:53.700 right but like you'll that's like going beyond a date in my view but you won't consider it a date 0.92

00:22:59.360 so like oh when's the last you're not really dating but you're fucking other men yeah i don't think 0.91

00:23:03.400 that's a date so nope none of that nothing you've been on was this before your for your relationship 0.99

00:23:09.340 no it was after so in your two years of being single yes are you bi no why are you a recluse and a 0.60

00:23:19.120 permit that's crazy is it facts though is it true somewhat yes okay and you live in san diego i mean

00:23:27.660 that's a pretty populous area so yeah a lot of hot surfer dudes san diego what's what's the deal

00:23:34.600 um i just think like because it's kind of right now pointless to me just because i'm so busy that i

00:23:43.160 don't feel like i i it's a terrible excuse and everyone's gonna say that but i just don't think

00:23:48.940 i can give the kind of attention and like the emotional attachment on all that to a relationship

00:23:52.820 that i'm like what's the point of attempting what's the point of what of attempting or like

00:23:59.560 going on dates and things if i can't you want kids one day one day you want to have a life partner

00:24:05.040 get married yeah but okay but at this point that's the point that would be the point

00:24:09.340 are you doing the i'm focusing on my career thing um well i'm again full-time student so like i would

00:24:20.600 like to graduate and be at a point where i know you could do both that one it's okay but like

00:24:25.700 but like um i i'm not even sure i'm gonna continue reciting in um san diego right so like if i enter

00:24:34.260 i don't want another long distance relationship gotcha um well i was just curious how much longer

00:24:42.260 do you have of school i graduate june oh so not so not very much longer yep are you gonna you think

00:24:49.680 you're gonna try to settle down after that or are you gonna be pretty career oriented do you think

00:24:53.820 i think i'm gonna start going on dates after june

00:24:57.340 that's the goal okay wait andrew can we have you you're um a little off center am i red 0.94

00:25:07.600 i look fucking red in this yeah just a little bit chat yo chat one in the chat do i look red 0.91

00:25:12.920 we i think our camera settings are all scuffed um he's got some sun yeah i was uh i was yeah i 0.98

00:25:21.420 got a little sunburned he was surfing i just got some sunburn um perfect andrew um okay so what

00:25:28.200 about you you've been single for two years i've been single for two years i've been celibate for

00:25:32.720 a year and a half not for any particular reason a year and a half yeah just don't do much i've been

00:25:39.640 on like one day i don't know i don't get outside a lot you don't get recluse as well we like play

00:25:48.160 games and stream we don't they often who's we we're friends sorry you guys like yeah okay uh so

00:25:56.220 you don't that's you guys full-time streamers no no but then i work from home so and i'm not are

00:26:03.000 you guys on dating apps no i'm on them i'm not very good at them which ones are you on all of them

00:26:10.820 tinder bumble oh not tinder bumble and hinge yeah farmers only yeah christian mingle of course

00:26:19.840 every single one uh so how often do you check your dating apps every day every day yeah i just uh so

00:26:25.960 you i mean you're attractive girl i'm sure you get a lot of matches yeah i do i do and are guys asking

00:26:32.920 you on dates yeah and you're saying no yeah well dating is like weird in la it's not an enjoyable

00:26:43.200 experience to be honest i've gone like i don't know it never goes anywhere i also i don't know i

00:26:51.060 don't want to go on pointless dates really it never goes anywhere just hang out well no oh you'd rather

00:26:56.040 just hang out what do you mean you'd rather just hang out i'd rather like i could go on a date

00:27:00.240 or i could just sit at home oh okay i thought you meant like hang out with a god i'm open

00:27:05.200 to going on dates i just nothing's happened nothing's happened how much time a day do you

00:27:11.400 spend on a dating app 20 minutes 30 minutes oh yeah just one night like 10 minutes maybe okay killing

00:27:16.920 time okay so why are you just curving all these dudes on dating apps like why be on the date like

00:27:25.040 because you said you've been celibate for a year and a half in that year have you been on dating apps

00:27:29.020 for that entire time period no when did you download the dating apps um i well i was banned

00:27:35.420 for quite some time i just got a new phone so i got unbanned that's a red flag but why no it wasn't

00:27:41.900 they didn't believe that it was me because i don't reply you got banned for not replying for not being

00:27:47.420 me it was a fake person but it was me i just don't check it very like what so it happens to girls all

00:27:54.120 the time where like they're like this is a fake profile but it was me i just oh but you got

00:27:58.300 unbanned in any case yes was it what chap was that that you got banned on i've been banned on every

00:28:03.000 single one like tinder i can't get on at all you're there's no okay you're trolling on the apps

00:28:06.780 probably maybe i don't know you're probably like i am like no you're probably sending like kind of

00:28:11.600 facetious messages no it's getting reported you're not replying to any guys they're reporting

00:28:17.900 that's what i think that what happens like i match and then i kind of forget about the app for a little

00:28:22.060 bit and okay so how long have you been not banned on them dating i've been active on them for

00:28:30.260 maybe the past four months past four months okay

00:28:34.260 nothing in four not one prospect in four months oh no the one date i went on was in december so

00:28:41.720 oh okay it was it was one date yeah it wasn't it didn't go anywhere did it no second date why didn't

00:28:47.760 why it wasn't there a second date he never reached back out to me did you reach back out to him yeah

00:28:52.940 so okay you went on the date what how did that conversation it was one sec salubry and carvar

00:29:02.520 donated one hundred dollars as always maddie is the only ten at the table i would ask frankie's

00:29:09.340 d just to taste that sweet pea no homo of course brian when is sofia coming back she was a breast of 1.00

00:29:17.440 fresh air breast uh maddie do you want to respond first no okay uh i don't know who so that we've

00:29:30.360 had a lot of sophia's it's all they're all a blur to me um was it sophie or sophia i don't know um

00:29:39.500 you'd have to give me details on who that is if it is who i think it is no she's not coming back on

00:29:45.900 the show um but uh okay so how did that convo go well he was like oh it was so nice to hang out and

00:29:53.620 then he was out of town for a month and it just kind of fell off it was a good date it was a fine

00:29:58.660 date i think he got back with his ex-girlfriend to be honest ah good time because it was like

00:30:03.380 kind of weird good times how many matches do you think you've had on the dating apps

00:30:08.300 a good amount how many do you think you've had ever in my life uh let's just say the past four

00:30:14.480 months since you've been unbanned um over a thousand matches no matches yeah no maybe like

00:30:21.440 30 only 30 yeah well i don't what okay so you know when you're swiping right yeah what like

00:30:27.980 per hundred men you see on the apps how many do you swipe yes on um

00:30:33.900 normally because i like hinge i normally just go through who's liked me

00:30:41.100 it's a little bit less time consuming yeah and you also don't have to face rejection yeah well they

00:30:46.660 don't tell you you've been rejected i just assume they deleted the account so okay you just pick

00:30:51.560 amongst the men who have already yeah usually sent to like yeah so of the men who like you how much do

00:30:58.360 you pick them um so you get 10 matches how many depends like how's it looking that two of them

00:31:08.540 three of them yeah maybe how many do you get per day per day how many matches do you get per day

00:31:13.040 matches per day not a lot how many like maybe two or one or one okay yeah so let's say in a week

00:31:23.000 you get 10 how many do you match end up matching with by clicking yes how many do i match with that's

00:31:30.220 what i'm saying like one i only like will match with one no no but so how many sorry so how many

00:31:35.160 send you likes per day of a decent amount probably depends on the day how many on average on average

00:31:44.800 yeah that's what i meant not how many you like match up with how many like you um well bumble i

00:31:50.860 have no idea but usually on hinge i'll wake up with like 20 or 30 okay so of the 20 to 30 that you

00:31:58.720 receive per day how many do you choose to match with well i think you said it was one like one yeah

00:32:03.080 so one out of 30 guys are suitable for you to never go on a date with no no it's not it's not

00:32:10.220 that they're not suitable i think i just have like a really particular type and the type of guy i

00:32:14.920 like doesn't really like me that's interesting what is your type like nerdy guys you like nerdy

00:32:20.580 guys i'm sure there's nerdy guys there's plenty of nerdy guys on hinge i don't know they show me

00:32:24.420 really like surfer hot guys which is great i like looking at them what is a nerdy guy what does

00:32:29.620 that mean like he's he's uh an engineer or are you talking like an anime waifu like that type of 0.94

00:32:37.000 shit um an engineer would be awesome also an anime nerd would be awesome too okay so just broad nerd 0.94

00:32:43.620 yeah just someone they can fit into the various yeah usually like uh like gamer type vibes but 0.95

00:32:49.480 gamer type vibes yeah you guys are on twitch how are you not finding i'm sure there's like gamer

00:32:54.140 dudes i'm so i think maybe i'm the problem yeah i don't think there's like a lack of there's

00:32:59.220 self-awareness so the guys you like don't like you so nerdy guys don't like you why do you think that

00:33:04.120 is oh i don't know you don't know well i don't it's not are you a nerdy girl sorry i didn't mean to

00:33:10.620 cut you off no it's okay um am i a nerdy girl i think so i think i'm not really like self-aware

00:33:17.220 if somebody likes me and so maybe there's people that show interest like also this is just a thing

00:33:23.340 in my head but my first two boyfriends were from dating apps and like that didn't work out so i'm

00:33:27.320 kind of like would prefer to meet someone in person um okay it's just like so how are you gonna meet a

00:33:34.220 nerd in person that's very true twitchcon or something yeah i gotta hit up the cons i guess

00:33:40.900 yeah so your type is nerdy yeah nerdy guy do you have is there a like a celebrity that you can think

00:33:47.540 of that fits the arc arc arc type um of what you consider like a nerdy like a celebrity yeah i would

00:33:56.140 say like like other nerdy celebrities like xqc like that kind of like xqc discord like oh okay pull up

00:34:02.460 his instagram pull up his instagram oh god no nick pull up his instagram wait this is public

00:34:07.480 actually i'm gonna send him i've been i've messaged with him on twitter i'm gonna take a video with you

00:34:14.920 and i'm gonna put in a matchmaker here yeah just pull up his instagram we're gonna have the girls 1.00

00:34:21.380 we're gonna go around the girl i want the and we definitely want andrew wilson's input here

00:34:25.680 on would you date xqc starting with her if you just whenever you can pull it up i mean i know what

00:34:31.320 he looks like i i could say well you know just just for the stream they might not know

00:34:35.540 well he looks handsome

00:34:45.160 you're gonna have to make it smaller put us on the other side

00:34:51.020 all right so this is executing no no i mean the camera all right so actually probably make make the

00:35:01.500 thing bigger

00:35:02.060 yeah that's fine all right guys this is uh felix he's uh you know male scroll down

00:35:12.300 he's a male he's male he is man he's a good guy he's canadian speaks french he's got a cat

00:35:21.460 um and takes a lot of selfies he's a streamer he's got it all around good dude okay there he is

00:35:30.980 uh would you uh would you know what are you interested in him he's pretty hyperactive and i kind of like

00:35:37.960 that so yeah probably you like i like them with adhd yeah i mean i think so i think it's like it's a nice

00:35:44.560 um it keeps it exciting your brain's always trying to follow their train of thought okay so you want

00:35:51.320 the chaos basically yes you're attracted to the chaos okay what about you uh sure i it looked like

00:35:57.100 he there was a picture like the third picture on the top of his profile looked like they were playing

00:36:01.660 soccer or something soccer cats and dyed hair he can match my hair so yeah okay well

00:36:08.640 yes but he's a little too clouded that might be kind of a nightmare

00:36:13.580 sorry i'm seeming very disabled

00:36:17.720 why look at his ex-girlfriend now i don't want to end up like

00:36:22.340 what what kind of uh what kind of content do you make on twitch

00:36:26.100 wait hold on just before we do we do that let's get everyone's reaction to the

00:36:30.780 yeah i i like excuses energy i think he's a very hyper person i'm also a very hyper person

00:36:36.180 i also um think it's funny how he chooses his own toenails often live um i think it's quirky i think

00:36:43.120 it's funny most people think that's gross um i think i think it's cute but

00:36:47.520 what makes it cute wait how it's just random as fuck and i'm a very random person and yes 0.97

00:36:54.880 that's that's kind of nasty and if we're together i would not 0.96

00:36:58.180 so just continue going around the table i need to get up really quick and then

00:37:02.720 i'll have andrew jump in with his uh if you had any questions or anything

00:37:06.020 um that's the first time i've ever seen him so based on looks i would

00:37:11.200 but i'd probably give him a haircut just a little bit yeah i feel like that's the first time i've seen

00:37:17.180 him too and i'm gonna say flat answer no yeah that's a no for me as well

00:37:23.020 high standards high standards he's multi-millionaire

00:37:27.560 i don't think i would say just throwing that out there i mean it's really hard to judge people just

00:37:33.420 off of looks because like you were saying i feel like you could like the image of a nerdy guy but

00:37:39.520 also nerdy guys when you i don't i think you said like maybe they don't like you or something like

00:37:44.340 i feel like you look like you could be someone that's like super extroverted and like outgoing

00:37:48.540 talkative but like when you meet you in person like you're pretty chill and mellow

00:37:53.120 yeah that's true so that's do you think that they think you're out of their league

00:37:57.780 i hope not are nerdy guys really on dating apps like that though yeah yeah really yeah i'm sure

00:38:05.680 there are i also think it's kind of hard like to do the communication back and forth like two people

00:38:10.540 that are quite like shy especially like because somebody has to put in the effort and usually just

00:38:14.960 kind of like somebody mentioned early dwindles down like it just kind of goes nowhere it's like

00:38:19.680 very much my experience yeah i agree i also what kind of uh what kind of content do you make on twitch

00:38:24.320 um just hot tub streaming writing blow up animals i'm just kidding no i i'm saying i'm kidding i'm

00:38:30.440 sorry uh i just do just chatting mic clicking

00:38:32.300 yeah it's mouth taps all that yeah eating your toenails yeah yeah whatever the people want to see

00:38:40.460 really no it's just chatting i'm i'm a really casual streamer i stream like twice a week maybe

00:38:45.680 a few hours just talking do you play video games any of that stuff uh i used to play video games a lot

00:38:52.240 but i got really annoyed with everyone wanting to like join the game like everyone's like can i join

00:38:58.900 i'm like no dude i want to play without you you're gonna bring me gotcha well the reason the reason i'm

00:39:04.260 curious is if you were let's say trying to grow your following over on twitch you would say that

00:39:10.680 you were into nerdy guys who were gamers especially if you were doing gaming content right yes i think

00:39:17.000 i was just i was just curious yeah no i agree i think that that would make sense i also think it would

00:39:22.740 just you like people who like the same things that you like typically um but i also do have a pretty

00:39:28.600 wide range like i'm not strictly if someone's a gamer going to be like wait you don't game freak

00:39:33.500 don't talk to me would you would you say that you're maybe interested in somebody who's more

00:39:37.600 introverted than someone who's like super outgoing me i don't know i think it just depends on the

00:39:50.680 person are you a homebody or no oh yeah yeah yeah so would you be okay with dating someone who's not

00:39:55.800 a homebody like someone who would take you out probably be for the best honestly oh get me outside

00:40:00.000 yeah as long as you're open to it yeah it's not it's i don't think that i would have like a hard

00:40:04.580 time dating i think i've just kind of been like dismissive of it i haven't like put too much effort

00:40:10.100 into it um but i definitely like why waste your time yeah it wouldn't necessarily be a waste either

00:40:15.600 i just feel like i've been just haven't done it i don't know it's like if i met someone yeah agree

00:40:21.720 that la is probably not the yeah the best place to date people to pick people from but yeah the few

00:40:28.300 dates i've been on have been like pretty nightmare so i've just i'm good i want to hear more yeah

00:40:34.360 no just like like talking to a wall it seems sometimes really they just like want to talk

00:40:39.960 about every celebrity that they've ever met and how much money they make and yeah i was actually

00:40:44.620 gonna ask a question do you feel like maybe it's just based off of like location that maybe you're not

00:40:49.200 finding the people that maybe you are better suited for do you think it's more so just the way online

00:40:55.140 dating is right now potentially i also think like i could definitely be more active on it like i could

00:40:59.580 put more effort into it it's not it's me right like i'm the problem there you go all right uh actually

00:41:09.400 going around the table on this are your parents still together yes for like 30 years ago

00:41:17.380 oops go ahead yes for a really long time no they were never together no yes for yeah long time yeah

00:41:26.540 for 30 years i think no my mom is deceased but yes they were together okay and yes mine were also

00:41:35.080 together and ours still together andrew could we are you able to scoot your chair a little bit we want 0.53

00:41:41.060 to try to keep center you again um if you can sorry my ocd is fucking kicking in um that better 0.93

00:41:47.300 that better right perfect perfect thank you thank you uh cool okay so let's see oh we're gonna here's 0.67

00:41:55.660 where we're gonna start right so some of you have maybe seen the show before maybe you've seen a clip

00:42:02.120 of andrew maybe you've seen a clip of madison and you disagree with something so we want to start off

00:42:08.020 with does anybody here disagree with anything i've said andrew andrew has said madison has said

00:42:14.960 i've said nick has said whatever it may be that you've seen a clip or you've seen about the show

00:42:23.460 i got a few take out your notebook go ahead oh i'm trying to think of the ones i actually said in

00:42:31.460 messaging one of them being i'm very curious why you keep your body count a secret but then

00:42:37.680 you kind of pester sometimes not all the time other people to share that information i don't

00:42:43.320 think i pester sometimes pester has a very specific specific definition yeah i'll usually

00:42:49.680 so for example i might say someone might hesitate to want to reveal the actual body count and i might

00:42:56.320 for example say how about a range and then i might for example if they refuse a range i might say well

00:43:02.620 is it over or under x number less than 10 more than 10 and if they do not want to even answer

00:43:09.700 that i'll typically relent and uh relent in the pestering as you might say and that's the extent

00:43:16.240 of it typically i've seen them say like single digits and you're like okay so nine oh i do

00:43:22.600 i got multiply it by three and that's the real number i play that all the time

00:43:27.640 i feel like that alone though makes you like makes the girls want to reveal it more because they're

00:43:33.200 like no it's not that high it's not a nine it's three oh i don't think maybe it's possible wait nick

00:43:38.860 did you lower the total audio what's the audio for no no no no no just the audio what's the level at

00:43:50.540 what is the level at oh oh that's weird i don't know my stream deck's low anyways um that's it

00:43:59.980 well so i'm curious why i don't reveal i don't reveal my body count i mean i have a lot but yeah

00:44:03.960 that's one okay well oh saved andrew donated 100 i love the podcast it's very interesting to hear

00:44:14.520 the perspectives of different people from different parts of the country andrew is a chad because i'm a

00:44:20.140 chad and brian you're an amazing host ly to matt i'm all right thank you andrew appreciate it the

00:44:26.300 league of andrews continues to win there it is the league of andrews wait nick uh scroll up in the

00:44:31.900 sources on obs here just hit the arrow next to the overlay folder so it just hides all that it'll make

00:44:38.920 it easier um so oh to answer your question well i think body count matters so i'm not gonna reveal

00:44:46.800 it for that reason i was gonna say also i think you direct that towards girls who would come on the

00:44:52.340 say and say come on the show and say that body count doesn't matter yeah i typically typically that

00:44:58.260 question tends to be asked all in response to uh women saying that they think body count doesn't

00:45:04.660 matter social construct doesn't matter but then they have a quite a bit of hesitation when it comes

00:45:09.800 to revealing their own body count which to me would indicate that they actually do think it matters

00:45:14.220 well it's more like because you are going to reveal it to your partner right you're going to

00:45:19.520 reveal the body count at some point so it's already going to be out there if you're like trying to

00:45:23.180 hide that number because potentially you're scared that your significant other is going to judge you

00:45:29.300 but then you're going to reveal it when are you talking about me or people in general i'm just

00:45:34.540 talking about you in general because if you're trying to talk to a girl and date her you're going to 0.94

00:45:38.620 probably reveal that information sure so it's already out there she's going to tell everyone 0.98

00:45:43.680 well no like it's already out there as in like might as well reveal you're not trying to talk to

00:45:49.660 any of your audience or the girls who come on like that right what do you mean i don't i'm not she's

00:45:56.400 implying if you're trying to date any of you he's not that's that's a bit of a stretch if that's the

00:46:01.660 implication no no i'm saying like do you think that the only people who are aware of this conversation

00:46:07.180 are the people that are sitting at this table right now well that's why i said your audience

00:46:10.720 but it's just right but i'm out there in the ether i'm out there in the public so whatever i any

00:46:17.420 statements that i make on this podcast are accessible to a great many people whether they're

00:46:22.720 potential romantic partners business partners whatever it may be but you're going to tell a girl 1.00

00:46:28.800 either way if she if she asked me sure so you're saying that somebody's going to leak his body count

00:46:33.480 well it doesn't matter is my point because she's going to find out either way

00:46:36.820 oh like the like for future partners yeah yeah it's better to disclose to a partner than a bunch

00:46:42.640 of than half a million yeah you know it's uh plus i need to be a little i need to have uh an air of

00:46:49.800 mystery about you know i can't they can't the viewers can't think you know that certain things

00:46:55.960 about me so whatever podcast uh body count i've never revealed it i've never revealed it um

00:47:03.240 is that it is that the the what else what else you got what else you got you said you disagreed

00:47:09.480 about everything i didn't say everything let me look let me look i said most things okay you

00:47:16.360 disagreed about most things let me just see uh wait hold on

00:47:21.740 okay yeah you mentioned that the body count thing you said that you disagree with the women 1.00

00:47:29.720 only dating up comment yeah okay what do you mean well i don't think women only date up i think it's

00:47:34.860 plain and simple well hypergamy is just the rule in general like if you i don't i don't recall the

00:47:41.060 exact uh the exact number but women for example overwhelmingly i think it's like 93 percent of 1.00

00:47:46.980 women uh date men who earn more than them yeah but i you are generalizing i just i just don't think

00:47:53.600 it's true though you don't think yeah but it's um hypergamy is the rule it's a general statement

00:47:58.540 right so hyper when we're talking about hypergamy you're not saying all uh nothing exists inside of

00:48:04.220 a monolith there's always going to be exceptions to every rule it's the exception that proves the rule

00:48:09.060 in this case so like if i were to ask you if all things were equal let's assume for a second you had

00:48:14.680 two perfect clones one man uh you you like the personality in other words and it was perfect clone but 0.93

00:48:21.580 one of the clones had millions of dollars and lots of really nice shit and the other one didn't 0.99

00:48:26.340 wouldn't you pick the one that had the really nice shit and the million dollars but then that goes on 0.99

00:48:33.600 another level of like what mental they're at like are they also like not going all things are equal 1.00

00:48:39.100 they're the exact same the only distinction then how that one has a lot more shit than the other 0.98

00:48:43.940 that's donated 100 body count doesn't necessarily matter overall women just need to understand that 1.00

00:48:51.700 if you sacrifice your own body you don't qualify for a higher caliber man high status tall handsome

00:48:58.900 leader tall is crazy that's tall is crazy oh there's short kings out there that's rough

00:49:04.480 how tall are you pretty woman 5 8 yeah 5 8 do you have a high preference at all no no you did a guy 0.96

00:49:12.380 shorter than you i did my ex my one ex okay there you have it but did you guys want to continue with

00:49:20.320 yeah i yeah if you don't mind so i guess the the point is just to say that if the option is available

00:49:26.980 if you have two men who are roughly equal uh in your eyes as far as personality and things like this go

00:49:33.020 they're both pursuing you but one has an amount of resources which is far superior to the other

00:49:39.280 wouldn't you generally go with the one that has a lot more in the way of resources

00:49:43.040 of course yeah well i mean that's that's basically all the descriptor of hypergamy is is that

00:49:49.680 men don't differ particularly too much between man to man other than perhaps in looks height

00:49:55.900 differentials things like this but if you have them and they're close enough and one has a lot more

00:50:01.300 resources than another generally speaking women seem to go for the one that has more resources 1.00

00:50:06.480 that's the point

00:50:07.560 i don't know because you said men are generally like similar right i that's kind of a crazy statement

00:50:18.540 why because that's not true like it depending on where you are in life and it's just your

00:50:24.600 surroundings and who you meet like i'm not going and seeking like seeking these really wealthy men or

00:50:30.240 looking for these wealthy men it's just who's who's around me right so like if it's we're not

00:50:34.640 saying that you are though the point isn't to say that you're actively seeking or gold digging there's

00:50:39.860 plenty of women who don't actively seek and gold dig the point is just to show that if the options are 1.00

00:50:46.800 available even if a man could maybe perhaps be uh i don't know slightly better on the personality

00:50:53.440 but just slightly less better looking and have more money than the alternative just saying that the

00:50:57.940 chances that the woman will go for the alternative becomes much higher well then doesn't that stand 0.97

00:51:02.640 to reason well there's vice versa if it's the same woman the same thing with a man like a man would 1.00

00:51:09.200 doesn't doesn't seem to necessarily be the same case for men so men men seem to not seek women out

00:51:15.580 specifically for resources or vice versa or i mean i'm whereas vice versa that does seem to be the case

00:51:21.560 is what i mean well let's let's pretend that it's old money let's say like i know there's a lot of

00:51:26.640 problems with certain like men where they're like oh i don't want a working woman let's pretend it's 1.00

00:51:31.140 old money and she inherited that and it's two of the exact same and one has tons of money and the

00:51:37.500 other doesn't would you you would also date the woman with tons of money you mean if all things 0.99

00:51:43.140 were equal all things are exact same woman yes yeah yeah sure um and i think every man would say that

00:51:48.560 that's true yeah but the point the the point here is the reason we start with all things equal is just

00:51:54.400 to break down okay you and i are in agreement that if there's resources which are added it does add

00:52:00.640 value right the distinction here for hypergamy is just to say that women seem to seek that value out

00:52:06.340 a lot more than men do that's the point just generally it's not always the case but it's just

00:52:11.620 generally the case but do you also start we still we start even i agree with you for men and women

00:52:16.520 that would that would matter to a degree just think it matters a lot more to women and this is what 1.00

00:52:21.860 we see in the data and the trends but do you think that that's trending downwards as like newer

00:52:26.880 generations no it seems not to be trending downwards as materialism trends upwards it seems that we have

00:52:34.040 more of this problem not less of this problem so i mean absent materialism if if men have lots of

00:52:42.060 resources and you can net a man who has lots of resources wouldn't that be your preference whereas

00:52:46.600 for men if you ask them that question they say some say yes but most say not really it's not really

00:52:52.420 the thing that they're after is resources mostly after things like beauty the ability to become a good

00:52:57.200 mother uh things like this they're not really after your resources so you're saying gen z gen alpha are

00:53:04.220 answering that answering what saying that they are still seeking out women who are good mothers and

00:53:12.420 beautiful that's still gen z gen alpha yeah well gen gen z is actually trends more conservative in the

00:53:18.600 smaller percentile so yeah they do tend to answer that way interestingly enough as millennials get

00:53:24.380 older and their priorities change the same thing men seem to answer that way then as well

00:53:29.340 may i add something so i agree with the initial statement that women typically look for men that

00:53:38.320 um kind of um kind of resources yeah exactly so but i think where you're coming from is that like if

00:53:44.300 you were to typically ask any woman in this generation they're not going to say that outright

00:53:48.880 um plus in the dating world there's not really typically a lot of oh there's not really typically a lot of

00:53:56.680 suitors that bring that to the table as far as resources go yeah that's why we have such a lopsided issue

00:54:04.500 which is that as as women are able to make a make more and more and more money especially in resident 1.00

00:54:10.920 fields like the medical field things like this uh men is the provider of resources this has actually

00:54:17.740 taken the market and flipped it on its head so now there's actually a lot less men who are desirable

00:54:23.260 from the biological trend of women so they're still looking for men who make higher resources but right 1.00

00:54:29.740 now women make a lot in the way of the marketplace when it comes to money homeownership there's actually 1.00

00:54:36.000 more homeowners who are single and there will be more homeowners who are married uh in just 10 years

00:54:42.440 who are women so that over men which is which is crazy so all that hypergamy is looking at is saying 0.70

00:54:50.120 listen one of the big problems in the dating market is as women's resources drastically increase 1.00

00:54:55.800 you start to see that uh the lopsided uh way that they pick men has moved to a smaller and smaller

00:55:03.420 percentage that's the point so wouldn't that kind of contradict itself that women since it's like it 1.00

00:55:10.560 flipped its side on its head now that grid one motorsports donated 100 seems simple men will not 0.53

00:55:18.420 leave hot poor women to date ugly rich women women will leave an attractive poor man to date ugly rich men 1.00

00:55:24.420 100 percent brian next time you need a remote input me in coach hey grid one good to see in the chat 0.94

00:55:31.980 man thank you for your uh tts appreciate it man uh grid one is awesome uh anyway what's the uh what's

00:55:38.040 the contradiction you see so that women like that you just said the market kind of flipped itself on its 1.00

00:55:42.720 head so women are you know creating their own resources so now wouldn't that mean that women are not 1.00

00:55:51.720 seeking men for resources anymore because they still what's interesting about this trend is it

00:55:57.000 makes my point not yours which is that as the market flips itself on the head and women are able to 1.00

00:56:01.880 increase their resources they seem to be vying for a smaller pool of men who have more resources than they 1.00

00:56:07.780 have whereas men are not following that trend agreed i think women just naturally want the best so

00:56:13.920 they're just going to select the best dating options even if they are making a lot of money they're still 0.99

00:56:20.520 going to want men who make more money than them so no matter what they're just going to select the 1.00

00:56:25.820 man who has the most resources add something to that too i feel like a major trend too is you have a lot

00:56:30.600 of um well i would say more of like a sub part especially on social media instagram tiktok those types of

00:56:37.060 things where you have really strong women and they'll talk a lot of game about you know i want a partner to 1.00

00:56:44.620 match my lifestyle and so you'll see a lot of the women that are you know part of that top percent 1.00

00:56:50.500 of you know wealthy women or educated women whatever you would like to put it as um kind of 0.89

00:56:56.580 living that life with those types of men versus like okay well you know i found this guy in my

00:57:01.500 little hometown even though i'm super wealthy and he's just a good guy but i'm gonna give it a chance

00:57:05.440 even though i'm kind of picking him up um i feel like you see the offset side of that more often than

00:57:11.900 not right they're not dating down is what you're saying yeah exactly down that's the whole and that's

00:57:16.600 the whole point and yeah that's kind of the the push for what is talked about when we're talking

00:57:22.220 about hypergamy and saying women aren't dating down the trends don't show that they're dating down

00:57:26.520 one of the big reasons that they say that they get divorced is because they no longer feel equally

00:57:30.820 yoked they're just they don't date down generally and it's not always the case right you're right

00:57:36.680 nothing exists in a monolith you can always point to exceptions but the exceptions are what make that

00:57:41.220 rule true the statistics on divorce is like 73 percent of divorces are initiated because of

00:57:47.020 cheating what no yeah that's a huge percentage that's incorrect it's due to irreconcilable

00:57:53.620 differences cheating is number three on the list well that is one of the differences

00:57:58.920 i don't understand what your what your point is yeah what how is cheating involved

00:58:05.240 they don't want to put it on paper um because i mean the original thing was you objected to this

00:58:11.080 idea that women tend to date up well i i was interjecting the point because he the statistics

00:58:16.260 were like over 70 percent or it's because of cheating that's what no let's assume it is though

00:58:21.460 let's assume it is how is it relevant at all because of his initial point about what he just said about

00:58:27.180 divorce that he but but the original conversation was about women women having a tendency to date up

00:58:34.340 let's just uh i see i think i know what she's saying let me let me make sure i can get this

00:58:38.540 just be as maximum charitable as i can be you're saying that you think that there's an alternative

00:58:43.440 reason why divorces could be happening other than men and women being equally yoked that's that's that's 0.92

00:58:50.200 what you're saying that he brought up the point of divorce so i i read divorce statistics recently

00:58:55.280 because of the show it comes up a lot yeah okay yeah but just just so you understand even if it were true

00:59:02.300 that um let's say the number one reason that uh divorces were happening is because men cheat that's 0.98

00:59:08.600 not true by the way but even if it was that still wouldn't change the fact that men or that women tend 0.98

00:59:14.760 to not date down and that in in the case of divorce even if i were to yield that to you all other trends

00:59:21.480 would still show that women tend not to date down i think you made a made a good point about women 0.90

00:59:27.640 getting more and more resources for themselves as they have more opportunities and i think that's

00:59:31.700 why newer generations would probably show eventually that they there is more dating down because

00:59:38.860 like you said if we're all in a pool that keeps trying to date up like i'm just confused how that

00:59:45.500 would work as a society well let me explain how it works so that you know hang on i can explain this

00:59:50.020 to you so that you know this is the big problem this is why the what is called the red pill exists

00:59:55.480 is because of this central keynote problem that you uh put in front of us right now which is

01:00:01.200 what happens when there's only a small amount of men who have enough resources to basically be above

01:00:09.040 women in this respect well what happens is all of the women start competing for that small amount of 1.00

01:00:14.540 men and if they can't get one by about age 30 or 34 they tend to settle down at that point and if

01:00:22.020 they settle down at that point they can't have nearly as many children and generally speaking

01:00:26.520 they have lived a promiscuous lifestyle not always i'm just saying again we're talking in

01:00:31.140 generalities and that's what happens that's why you have such a cultural societal trend that is so

01:00:36.940 messed up right now they the actual existence of what is considered the red pill on the dating

01:00:42.080 market is exactly a response to this question that you currently ask can i and i kind of to

01:00:49.020 piggyback on that too i feel like there was a segment on an episode a while ago um where the

01:00:54.240 conversation kind of came up where it was about um girls dating the hot guy or getting with him or 0.88

01:01:00.920 fucking him or whatever and he doesn't really have to do anything but the nice guy comes along and say 0.80

01:01:05.920 he's just kind of average whatever she'll settle i guess you could say because that 0.99

01:01:11.300 jay ekin donated one hundred dollars with women dating up here's an example 50 shades of gray is

01:01:19.620 only romantic because the guy's a billionaire if he was living in a trailer it'd be a criminal

01:01:24.920 minds episode hello well put jay well put i mean he's not he's not lying there was a movie years ago

01:01:33.060 with demi moore called indecent proposal anybody ever seen indecent proposal well there's inside of them

01:01:39.520 yeah inside of the movie a rich billionaire approaches a married couple who wants to sleep

01:01:43.740 with the wife and so offers a million dollars to sleep with the wife what of course made the

01:01:50.100 movie interesting is because again that was exploring this problem of what will the woman 1.00

01:01:55.700 trade up and in the movie she did in the movie she did trade up so yeah there's uh there's a

01:02:01.680 little bit of wisdom to that super chat to be honest with you you add something really quick

01:02:05.780 and then i'm gonna chime in go ahead yeah so what i was saying is it kind of relates to this almost

01:02:09.820 because it's you have a lot of girls who will get with the really you know wealthy guy hot guy 1.00

01:02:15.740 whatever whatever and obviously if she's not up to his certain type of standard or maybe she's not

01:02:22.340 yoked with him at that point um most of the time if she gets kind of kicked off or ghosted or whatever

01:02:28.240 there's always that chance she finds the guy who comes along who will pick her up just enough where

01:02:33.020 it's she's not scraping by and she'll settle and i feel like that's kind of like i would say her

01:02:41.220 version of well i was dating up i'm dating up and then it's the settling point which i would say would

01:02:46.580 lead to more like divorce rates because they're not happy they didn't essentially get what they

01:02:50.480 wanted in the end so that's kind of from what i've seen from personal experience of seeing those

01:02:55.140 types of situations and the trends so wait to bring it back your position is essentially broadly

01:03:00.300 speaking women are not really interested in dating up is that like can you restate your position it 1.00

01:03:07.940 was more that i think that's just not true like i don't think what's not true all we i don't think

01:03:13.720 they date up because in general i think newer generations can i add let me ask you uh let me ask

01:03:20.320 you a question if you don't mind the average age according to the u.s census bureau for marriage is

01:03:26.380 approximately 30.5 years old for women in general why do you think that is wait prioritize discord 1.00

01:03:34.400 i'm guessing you're gonna say because they tried to date up and it didn't work out right that's your

01:03:42.160 point well whether it is or it isn't i'd like to hear why you think it is that women are getting 1.00

01:03:47.700 married at 30 years old when uh clearly their fertility at that point is going to be drastically

01:03:54.800 reduced in comparison to if they had gotten married when they were in their 20s why do you think they're

01:03:59.620 waiting until they're in their 30s um well trends are now showing that's because they're now trying

01:04:04.880 to focus on careers right so they're trying to focus on resources right yes okay so they feel like

01:04:13.200 it takes x amount of time for them to have some kind of resources and safety net and things like this

01:04:19.640 that they can fall back on and then they'll focus on getting married now do you think that generally

01:04:24.960 speaking women are marrying men who make more money than them or less money than them 0.88

01:04:30.180 right now probably more probably more so if if you were to put all of this together

01:04:39.120 what would you say what would be your synopsis for why this phenomenon is happening now and it's

01:04:45.020 never happened before in history what are you you're saying this has never happened before in

01:04:52.700 history that that women dating up no no no it's never happened before in history where women are 0.99

01:04:57.940 waiting until they're in their 30s on average get married it's because they're getting more rights now

01:05:01.820 and they're they're able to well they've had rights they've had rights uh you know for 70 years

01:05:07.660 and even then the trend still showed you women were getting married when they were younger men on

01:05:13.440 average get married when they're younger too so the question becomes really here why is it that

01:05:18.520 women are waiting till they're in their 30s to get married well do you want to know what the responses 0.99

01:05:22.940 from these surveys are for why they they say that they're waiting until they're in their 30s to get

01:05:27.300 married what would you what do you think that they are if you had to guess because they're waiting for

01:05:31.280 the right person well they also say they're waiting to find somebody who's equally yoked with them

01:05:37.840 and has financial stability and when they get married they're getting married to men generally

01:05:42.960 who have more resources than they have so some that's not always the case right but they tend to

01:05:49.660 settle when they're in their 30s and in their 20s they're looking for uh these uh i don't know what

01:05:55.840 you would call them the omega chat or whatever the fuck you want to call it they seem to be looking

01:05:59.880 for that and this is just what the data shows over and over again so i would actually like to see to hear

01:06:05.760 why you think what the alternative to this is in your mind why what is the alternative

01:06:10.700 explanation to dating up what's the alternative no to why women are waiting until so late in life 1.00

01:06:18.540 yeah it's because like we were talking about there's more possibilities for women like we can go look at 1.00

01:06:24.580 like asian fertility rates and things like that the birth rates going down as they are able to work 1.00

01:06:29.620 more and more because they want to have a full career right so there's more options for them

01:06:35.460 exactly and do their 30s and then the options begin to narrow and so what do they do what do

01:06:43.280 they do when those options begin to narrow in their 30s if they settle don't you think that's dating

01:06:48.520 below them if they're settling can be yeah but even then they tend to at least settle with somebody

01:06:54.520 who makes on par the amount of money they make or more than they make so again you say that it's

01:07:00.320 because the options right they have so many more options when they're younger we totally agree they

01:07:04.900 have tons more options when they're younger they're looking through all of those options but when the

01:07:09.100 options begin to narrow that seems to be when they settle right if i could jump in here too why do you

01:07:15.180 think women don't date up you even just said that women settle for someone who makes equivalent or below 0.93

01:07:20.840 my point about the settling was in his mentality not dating up is settling right so a lot of times if

01:07:29.300 they can't what about what about your mentality would not if i'm dating someone who makes less

01:07:34.700 than me if you're dating a broke guy would you consider that settling no not necessarily at all

01:07:39.600 okay so do you think women in general though would wait tilt your mic down do you think women in gen 0.96

01:07:46.860 there you go do you think women in general if they dated men who could not financially provide for them

01:07:55.420 would consider that settling as opposed to the ideal of dating someone who financially could take care of

01:08:01.760 them which would be women dating upwards and that's why i think it's a more of a generational debate i think

01:08:07.480 younger generations start thinking no it's not settling but if we get into so you don't think modern

01:08:14.240 women want to date men who can find the average age of marriage is increasing it's not decreasing

01:08:19.240 so it's like so i don't so i just i don't understand did you i'm trying to figure out

01:08:24.520 where it is that you're coming from here i i because i think i get the worldview i think i think

01:08:29.140 i understand we start with the monolith you dismiss the monolith that's fair right we're talking in

01:08:34.320 generalities here but you yourself aren't you on essentially the same path right you're going to

01:08:39.580 wait until you're educated and you have uh you know something to fall back on possibly a good nest egg

01:08:45.820 you're not in any rush is it inconceivable to you that you yourself will end up being one of these

01:08:51.920 women who probably gets married later in life at 29 30 31 no i completely see myself getting married

01:08:59.020 way later than right so you're following the exact same trend a little bit that most of them are you're

01:09:06.560 exploring the options now if mr right comes in before then and he's uh you know a football player with

01:09:12.620 millions of dollars and wants to marry you that might change drastically your outlook right more

01:09:18.400 no because it's not necessarily on him it's on me it's am i prepared for that that's what i'm asking

01:09:24.440 you if mr right came in tomorrow millions of dollars he was rico suave and he had millions of dollars

01:09:29.900 swept you off your feet wouldn't you drastically reevaluate your situation i'm not at all i don't why

01:09:37.020 would i depend on someone millions of dollars what if he leaves me like there's what happens if he

01:09:41.500 leaves you and he has millions of dollars and you're married to him what happens oh there could

01:09:46.220 be there's definitely a prenup most people are somewhat smart about that i would say and it a lot

01:09:53.620 of a lot of these millionaires surprisingly don't get prenups they don't get them the women convince 0.88

01:09:58.200 them not to get them and they don't get them so if a guy wasn't going to get a prenup with you had

01:10:02.480 millions of dollars rico suave he sweeps you off your feet right this second what the hell would you 0.68

01:10:07.280 ever have to work again for or rely on anything for would you wouldn't you go for it or would you

01:10:11.920 still wait until your education was done i would 100 wait like i've dedicated so many years to my

01:10:17.340 education that would be such like a loss do you value different resources is that why you said no

01:10:23.940 to if you dated a broke guy that wouldn't be dating down uh yeah i mean value them as a human more than

01:10:31.700 their resources like if they're just a good person sure but in like your like do you plan on having

01:10:36.980 kids yeah so in your grand scheme of your life do you i guess put finances at the bottom even though

01:10:44.320 finances do go into a lot of having kids getting a house getting having a comfy lifestyle well i've

01:10:51.540 always planned on working so like it's not really a concern to me if they're the stay-at-home dad that's

01:10:58.720 like okay that's not a concern for me okay let's ask oh seven septillion seven hundred and seventy

01:11:04.900 seven six trillion seven hundred and seventy-seven quintillion seven hundred and seventy seven

01:11:10.120 quadrillion seven hundred and seventy seven trillion seven hundred and seventy seven billion seven

01:11:15.640 hundred and seventy seven million seven hundred and seventy seven thousand seven hundred and seventy

01:11:20.760 seven donated one hundred dollars oh wow that might sprinkler goes like this

01:11:24.800 that was actually really good

01:11:32.660 comes back like this

01:11:34.840 good

01:11:35.420 thank you sprinkler guy

01:11:40.600 let me have a little back and forth with you here

01:11:42.780 for a little bit

01:11:43.300 you mentioned one that you've been

01:11:46.780 really focused on your education

01:11:48.800 do you think that

01:11:50.580 do you think that men

01:11:53.840 will find you more attractive because of your

01:11:56.300 educational achievement

01:11:57.540 maybe

01:12:00.440 depends what man

01:12:02.280 I was just going to make the point

01:12:05.260 that generally speaking I would say

01:12:07.260 men are not 0.65

01:12:07.860 your career success or your ambition

01:12:10.840 or your educational achievement

01:12:12.780 it's not going to make you more attractive

01:12:15.000 I think smart men might

01:12:16.380 no not really

01:12:18.300 I suppose it depends on your definition of smart

01:12:21.360 but

01:12:21.820 I don't think men

01:12:24.460 that's really

01:12:25.360 a big part of the calculus

01:12:26.920 when it comes to what men

01:12:28.160 find attractive

01:12:29.560 in a partner

01:12:30.800 I have a question

01:12:31.760 so in that case

01:12:33.900 what would you say

01:12:34.780 men do find attractive

01:12:36.660 when looking for a partner

01:12:37.680 when it comes to

01:12:38.660 a woman's status

01:12:40.220 as far as her

01:12:41.140 they don't

01:12:41.860 they don't care anything about status

01:12:43.580 yeah

01:12:44.300 status is irrelevant

01:12:45.580 like no work

01:12:46.920 still lives with her parents

01:12:48.120 in her 20s

01:12:49.060 that's preferable

01:12:49.800 yeah that's preferable

01:12:50.920 those are

01:12:51.260 yes

01:12:52.240 living

01:12:52.840 if she lives with her parents

01:12:53.960 it's probably more likely

01:12:55.060 that she's

01:12:56.000 well adjusted

01:12:57.400 going out on the weekends

01:12:58.900 doing 0.99

01:12:59.320 ho shit 0.99

01:13:01.540 on the weekends 0.99

01:13:02.680 I mean

01:13:03.000 in general

01:13:03.660 are men more willing

01:13:04.840 to take care of

01:13:05.920 somebody else

01:13:06.660 other than women 1.00

01:13:07.480 I don't think

01:13:08.740 that women 0.97

01:13:09.260 would generally

01:13:10.840 I would say

01:13:11.340 that you're more

01:13:11.780 like an exemption

01:13:12.440 right

01:13:12.900 women are more 1.00

01:13:14.480 like inclined

01:13:15.860 to say

01:13:16.320 no I don't

01:13:17.260 want to take care

01:13:18.020 of this person

01:13:18.780 I want to like

01:13:19.500 take care of myself

01:13:20.760 but men

01:13:21.740 in general

01:13:22.440 are

01:13:22.960 more willing

01:13:24.620 to say

01:13:25.260 you know what

01:13:25.780 you don't have a job

01:13:26.660 let me take care of you

01:13:27.720 they want to provide

01:13:28.300 I think there would be ways

01:13:29.420 more than a woman

01:13:31.160 when men start to make 0.83

01:13:32.800 a lot of money

01:13:33.760 they think

01:13:34.280 oh great

01:13:34.800 I can provide

01:13:35.840 for my wife

01:13:36.660 I can provide

01:13:37.340 for my family

01:13:37.960 I can provide

01:13:38.460 for my kids

01:13:39.080 what I've seen

01:13:40.440 a lot

01:13:40.780 with women

01:13:41.340 is when they

01:13:42.100 start making

01:13:42.700 a lot of money

01:13:43.400 they think

01:13:43.940 I don't need a man 1.00

01:13:45.260 it's two very

01:13:47.600 different perspectives

01:13:48.900 I 100% agree

01:13:49.960 well and let me

01:13:50.540 let me follow up

01:13:51.440 with this too

01:13:52.340 wait Nick

01:13:52.840 can you boost it

01:13:53.540 a little bit

01:13:54.120 as of right now

01:13:55.980 have you yourself

01:13:57.320 financially supported

01:13:58.680 any men

01:13:59.260 like

01:14:00.900 no

01:14:01.940 I'm 25 years old

01:14:03.220 well I mean

01:14:04.540 but you've dated men

01:14:05.620 I mean

01:14:06.160 in that 25 years

01:14:07.020 yes he had to

01:14:07.720 borrow money a lot

01:14:08.620 yes

01:14:09.260 you had to borrow

01:14:11.400 money a lot

01:14:11.880 no he did

01:14:12.260 to what

01:14:13.020 he did

01:14:13.720 to do what

01:14:14.440 to fly you out

01:14:15.220 no just to live

01:14:16.380 to live

01:14:17.000 to live

01:14:17.460 live life

01:14:18.120 and you're okay

01:14:19.300 with that

01:14:19.640 wait so

01:14:20.160 hold on

01:14:21.400 here I've got a

01:14:23.460 question for you

01:14:24.040 so okay

01:14:24.460 there's a female 0.71

01:14:26.920 attorney who's 30

01:14:27.920 okay

01:14:28.620 actually let's do

01:14:29.600 35

01:14:30.040 35 year old

01:14:31.480 female attorney

01:14:32.100 35 year old

01:14:33.060 male attorney

01:14:33.620 okay

01:14:34.160 which one

01:14:36.700 do you think

01:14:37.080 is more willing

01:14:38.020 to date

01:14:38.700 an attractive 0.55

01:14:40.080 25 year old

01:14:42.600 who works

01:14:43.180 at a Starbucks

01:14:44.500 oh gosh

01:14:48.400 the man

01:14:49.480 or the woman

01:14:50.020 you know

01:14:51.080 the answer

01:14:51.520 Kirby

01:14:51.880 I know

01:14:52.080 the answer

01:14:52.600 yes

01:14:53.760 a man

01:14:56.560 yeah

01:14:56.900 I do think

01:14:57.720 why

01:14:58.040 why

01:14:58.860 I don't

01:15:02.620 want to say

01:15:02.960 why

01:15:03.260 I feel like

01:15:04.000 say why

01:15:05.820 why

01:15:06.480 I think

01:15:07.900 I'm generalizing

01:15:08.660 by saying

01:15:09.080 these statements

01:15:09.560 I think

01:15:09.920 I'm completely

01:15:11.080 generalizing

01:15:11.760 he's just

01:15:12.580 asking more

01:15:13.120 likely

01:15:13.480 that is

01:15:14.040 a general

01:15:14.500 statement

01:15:14.940 who's more

01:15:15.760 likely

01:15:16.100 you say

01:15:16.420 it's more

01:15:16.700 likely

01:15:16.960 it's going

01:15:17.200 to be

01:15:17.300 the man

01:15:17.640 why

01:15:18.300 men

01:15:19.440 more

01:15:19.840 often

01:15:21.240 think

01:15:21.600 with their 1.00

01:15:21.940 penises 1.00

01:15:22.340 I'm going 0.58

01:15:22.800 to be

01:15:23.040 I don't

01:15:24.820 see how

01:15:25.320 that's

01:15:25.580 thinking

01:15:25.980 with 1.00

01:15:26.420 a penis 1.00

01:15:28.020 want to 1.00

01:15:28.480 be with

01:15:28.860 a young

01:15:29.280 pretty

01:15:30.220 woman 0.99

01:15:30.640 no

01:15:32.440 I wouldn't

01:15:33.000 want to

01:15:33.220 be with

01:15:33.580 a young

01:15:33.740 pretty

01:15:34.200 your

01:15:36.140 position

01:15:36.580 is

01:15:36.960 that

01:15:37.680 women 1.00

01:15:38.560 actually

01:15:39.040 don't

01:15:39.520 date

01:15:39.840 up

01:15:40.220 Nickelodeon

01:15:41.140 donated

01:15:41.600 $100

01:15:42.420 what would

01:15:43.740 be the

01:15:44.060 difference

01:15:44.440 in your

01:15:44.840 life

01:15:45.180 between

01:15:45.560 dating

01:15:45.940 and not

01:15:46.440 dating

01:15:46.780 someone

01:15:47.180 over the

01:15:47.720 next

01:15:47.980 five

01:15:48.380 years

01:15:48.900 if it

01:15:49.680 works

01:15:50.140 you're

01:15:50.660 happy

01:15:51.040 if not

01:15:51.720 still

01:15:52.120 lonely

01:15:52.580 I did

01:15:53.420 the same

01:15:53.820 thing

01:15:54.140 BC

01:15:54.440 health

01:15:54.780 issues

01:15:55.180 and

01:15:55.400 regret

01:15:55.760 it

01:15:56.180 wow

01:15:59.580 Nickelodeon

01:16:00.280 what be

01:16:01.200 the difference

01:16:01.620 in your

01:16:01.800 life

01:16:01.940 between

01:16:02.180 dating

01:16:02.460 and not

01:16:02.760 dating

01:16:02.940 someone

01:16:03.600 over the

01:16:03.960 next

01:16:04.140 five

01:16:04.380 years

01:16:05.700 is this

01:16:06.320 for the

01:16:06.560 whole

01:16:06.700 panel

01:16:07.000 or just

01:16:07.260 for her

01:16:07.640 I don't

01:16:09.920 really get

01:16:10.320 the question

01:16:10.800 possibly

01:16:11.600 like her

01:16:12.160 not dating

01:16:12.820 now

01:16:13.220 versus her

01:16:13.880 dating

01:16:14.240 after she

01:16:14.900 gets her

01:16:15.320 degree

01:16:15.680 and

01:16:16.020 yeah

01:16:16.360 Nickelodeon

01:16:16.940 saying

01:16:17.260 that

01:16:17.560 she

01:16:18.120 regrets

01:16:18.540 waiting

01:16:18.940 she regrets

01:16:19.880 waiting

01:16:20.480 over the

01:16:22.560 five year

01:16:23.400 course

01:16:23.780 that's all

01:16:24.240 I mean

01:16:25.520 I had a

01:16:25.800 boyfriend

01:16:26.060 for some

01:16:26.880 of it

01:16:27.380 oh no

01:16:28.980 it's not

01:16:29.820 it's not

01:16:30.260 specifically

01:16:30.880 so Nickelodeon

01:16:31.900 saying

01:16:32.300 I've been

01:16:34.160 in this

01:16:34.400 situation

01:16:34.920 where

01:16:35.420 I waited

01:16:36.320 and I

01:16:36.960 wish I

01:16:37.280 hadn't

01:16:37.600 waited

01:16:37.980 over the

01:16:38.660 five years

01:16:39.360 and so

01:16:40.280 she's asking

01:16:41.160 you specifically

01:16:42.020 do you think

01:16:42.920 that it's

01:16:43.460 better to

01:16:44.200 wait

01:16:44.520 or not

01:16:45.300 wait

01:16:45.660 and what

01:16:46.320 do you

01:16:46.480 think the

01:16:46.760 repercussions

01:16:47.260 in your

01:16:47.560 life will be

01:16:48.060 as an

01:16:48.300 entailment

01:16:48.780 of that

01:16:49.080 that's

01:16:49.360 what the

01:16:49.600 question

01:16:49.920 is

01:16:50.180 didn't

01:16:50.400 they also

01:16:50.780 talk about

01:16:51.220 their own

01:16:51.560 mental health

01:16:52.020 if you don't

01:16:52.480 date and

01:16:52.900 you're in

01:16:53.200 like a

01:16:53.440 mentally

01:16:53.740 they said

01:16:54.920 health

01:16:55.120 issues

01:16:55.680 now

01:16:57.960 so I

01:16:58.520 mean I

01:16:58.780 would say

01:16:59.080 that there's

01:16:59.540 nothing wrong

01:17:00.100 with you

01:17:00.420 waiting right

01:17:01.100 you have

01:17:01.540 your own

01:17:01.860 priority set

01:17:02.600 right now

01:17:03.340 that opinion

01:17:04.480 might change

01:17:05.220 later on

01:17:05.900 and then there's

01:17:06.340 always going

01:17:06.860 to be

01:17:07.440 Nick can you

01:17:08.100 pull up the

01:17:08.420 chart continue

01:17:09.080 go ahead

01:17:09.460 there's always

01:17:09.920 going to be

01:17:10.560 like repercussions

01:17:12.760 for taking

01:17:13.720 those actions

01:17:14.540 although you're

01:17:15.780 not interested

01:17:16.300 in dating

01:17:16.760 right now

01:17:17.480 and you're

01:17:17.840 focusing on

01:17:18.520 in your

01:17:18.780 career

01:17:19.180 where there's

01:17:19.700 nothing wrong

01:17:20.400 with it

01:17:20.800 you'll be

01:17:21.440 able to

01:17:21.820 have

01:17:22.200 you know

01:17:22.960 you'll be

01:17:24.360 able to

01:17:24.640 financially

01:17:25.000 support

01:17:25.500 yourself

01:17:25.860 and somebody

01:17:26.300 else

01:17:26.520 if you so

01:17:27.020 choose to

01:17:27.760 but the

01:17:29.180 range of

01:17:30.880 men that

01:17:31.540 might be

01:17:32.060 available to

01:17:32.880 you

01:17:33.220 is going to

01:17:34.120 be significantly

01:17:34.740 smaller

01:17:35.360 with every year

01:17:36.080 that goes by

01:17:36.680 Nick can you

01:17:37.200 pull up the

01:17:37.580 chart

01:17:37.840 but I mean

01:17:38.720 if you feel

01:17:39.580 like the

01:17:40.760 reward

01:17:41.580 afterwards

01:17:42.960 which would

01:17:43.600 be like

01:17:44.140 what you

01:17:45.560 guys might

01:17:45.940 consider a

01:17:46.500 high valued

01:17:47.300 man who

01:17:48.000 makes a

01:17:49.140 good living

01:17:49.580 is good

01:17:50.100 to you

01:17:50.560 and treats

01:17:51.020 you well

01:17:51.560 if that's

01:17:52.740 a good enough

01:17:53.320 reward

01:17:53.840 and it's

01:17:54.360 like worth

01:17:54.940 the wait

01:17:55.380 then there's

01:17:56.180 there's nothing

01:17:56.880 bad with it

01:17:57.560 you just have

01:17:57.960 to keep in

01:17:58.380 mind that

01:17:58.800 there's going

01:17:59.560 to be

01:17:59.720 repercussions

01:18:00.260 to waiting

01:18:01.120 I don't think

01:18:02.100 there's repercussions

01:18:02.680 people get

01:18:03.080 divorced all the

01:18:03.720 time like

01:18:04.120 the divorce

01:18:04.600 rates

01:18:04.820 like 50%

01:18:05.620 it's like

01:18:06.020 but you can

01:18:06.800 choose to

01:18:07.240 not get

01:18:07.540 divorced

01:18:07.840 and stay

01:18:08.320 in a

01:18:08.540 relationship

01:18:08.980 and fight

01:18:09.440 for it

01:18:09.880 well no

01:18:10.620 I'm saying

01:18:11.080 at me

01:18:11.460 I'm not

01:18:11.920 saying like

01:18:12.340 I'm getting

01:18:12.720 married

01:18:13.020 and then get

01:18:13.600 divorced

01:18:13.940 I'm saying

01:18:14.420 the dating

01:18:16.460 pool is

01:18:16.980 it's funny

01:18:17.620 right

01:18:17.900 it's

01:18:18.100 the infographics

01:18:19.100 folder

01:18:19.800 I think

01:18:22.860 I understand

01:18:23.760 what

01:18:24.140 was the

01:18:25.560 donator

01:18:25.880 Nick

01:18:26.240 Nickelodeon

01:18:27.800 because I

01:18:29.520 personally

01:18:29.900 I'm going

01:18:30.500 on my

01:18:31.160 fourth year

01:18:31.660 of being

01:18:31.960 single

01:18:32.300 not really

01:18:33.460 going on

01:18:33.900 dates

01:18:34.080 talking to

01:18:35.020 guys

01:18:35.220 because I

01:18:35.500 want to

01:18:35.760 focus

01:18:36.040 on my

01:18:36.840 career

01:18:37.320 and just

01:18:38.860 working on

01:18:39.280 myself as

01:18:39.700 a person

01:18:40.040 I also

01:18:40.520 was going

01:18:40.920 through health

01:18:41.280 issues

01:18:41.620 and just

01:18:41.940 want to

01:18:42.260 put dating

01:18:42.700 completely

01:18:43.100 on the

01:18:43.400 back burner

01:18:43.820 and now

01:18:44.800 I'm 24

01:18:45.340 years old

01:18:46.000 and I

01:18:46.820 don't

01:18:46.940 necessarily

01:18:47.300 regret that

01:18:48.000 but I

01:18:48.280 am at a

01:18:48.660 point where

01:18:49.220 I'm thinking

01:18:50.180 it wouldn't

01:18:51.940 have been a

01:18:52.300 bad idea

01:18:52.720 to start

01:18:53.300 looking around

01:18:54.260 or maybe

01:18:54.580 dating around

01:18:55.200 when I was

01:18:55.700 a little

01:18:55.880 younger

01:18:56.180 because I

01:18:57.640 do want to

01:18:58.000 have children

01:18:58.520 and settle

01:18:59.060 down at

01:18:59.440 some point

01:18:59.980 and already

01:19:01.260 being 24

01:19:02.000 I've only

01:19:03.120 got like

01:19:03.500 three-ish

01:19:04.560 more years

01:19:05.280 to find

01:19:06.240 someone if

01:19:06.820 I want to

01:19:07.200 start having

01:19:07.580 children and

01:19:07.980 get married

01:19:08.300 young still

01:19:08.860 so I

01:19:10.020 understand what

01:19:10.580 they're saying

01:19:10.840 about regretting

01:19:11.640 staying single

01:19:12.460 for so long

01:19:13.040 but I

01:19:13.840 don't have

01:19:14.360 regrets

01:19:14.740 I'm happy

01:19:15.300 do you have

01:19:15.620 the chart

01:19:16.340 okay so

01:19:18.260 I don't know if

01:19:19.140 this is what

01:19:19.560 you're kind of

01:19:19.940 referencing

01:19:20.340 this we've

01:19:21.040 brought this

01:19:21.560 chart up

01:19:21.920 before

01:19:22.240 hypergamy

01:19:22.820 whom men

01:19:23.980 would happily

01:19:24.480 partner with

01:19:25.040 you have on

01:19:25.440 the left

01:19:25.880 and then on

01:19:26.360 the right

01:19:26.760 whom women 0.83

01:19:27.620 would happily

01:19:28.260 partner up

01:19:29.160 with

01:19:29.380 so men

01:19:30.520 are pretty

01:19:31.540 content

01:19:32.000 and very

01:19:33.140 willing to

01:19:33.700 partner up

01:19:34.200 with women

01:19:34.600 who are

01:19:35.960 their

01:19:36.280 equivalents

01:19:37.040 but typically

01:19:38.020 what you have

01:19:38.680 happening is

01:19:39.460 women are 1.00

01:19:40.540 chasing after

01:19:41.240 like the top

01:19:41.940 percentage of

01:19:42.680 men

01:19:42.980 you want me

01:19:46.360 to okay

01:19:46.720 sorry

01:19:47.000 to add to

01:19:47.560 this

01:19:47.760 I find

01:19:48.660 I was just

01:19:49.300 do you agree

01:19:49.840 you disagree

01:19:50.480 with this

01:19:50.860 chart

01:19:51.080 you think

01:19:51.400 this is

01:19:51.680 actually no

01:19:52.720 the one

01:19:53.440 on the left

01:19:53.900 is actually

01:19:54.440 would be

01:19:55.720 representative

01:19:56.240 of both

01:19:56.900 men and

01:19:57.580 women 1.00

01:19:57.900 this graphic

01:19:58.700 is crazy

01:19:59.560 like

01:20:00.200 let's use

01:20:04.140 an example

01:20:04.520 from your

01:20:04.900 dear friend

01:20:05.440 over here

01:20:05.820 who you

01:20:06.140 live with

01:20:06.520 she's

01:20:07.280 currently

01:20:07.520 on a

01:20:07.840 dating app

01:20:08.360 and she

01:20:08.740 says she

01:20:09.080 gets 30

01:20:09.780 likes a

01:20:10.300 day but

01:20:10.740 she only

01:20:11.060 likes one

01:20:11.780 of them

01:20:12.560 sometimes

01:20:13.340 per day

01:20:14.600 so what

01:20:15.900 percentage is

01:20:17.340 that 3% 0.98

01:20:18.280 I can

01:20:19.140 also

01:20:19.600 she only

01:20:19.920 finds 3%

01:20:20.860 of the men

01:20:21.860 who like

01:20:22.620 her

01:20:22.960 so she's

01:20:24.580 not like

01:20:26.020 sending likes

01:20:27.340 out

01:20:27.600 she's

01:20:28.140 picking

01:20:28.500 this is

01:20:28.960 on hinge

01:20:29.360 she's

01:20:29.900 picking

01:20:30.140 from the

01:20:30.500 men

01:20:30.680 who've

01:20:30.920 already

01:20:31.140 shown

01:20:31.920 a

01:20:32.120 demonstrated

01:20:32.620 interest

01:20:33.180 in her

01:20:33.560 so if

01:20:34.520 she was

01:20:34.760 so inclined

01:20:35.280 all of

01:20:35.960 those guys

01:20:36.360 she could

01:20:36.660 probably 1.00

01:20:37.000 like fuck 1.00

01:20:38.420 that night 1.00

01:20:38.980 if she

01:20:39.260 wanted to

01:20:39.820 I can

01:20:41.300 even say

01:20:41.720 from personal

01:20:42.400 experience

01:20:42.820 like being

01:20:43.260 on Tinder

01:20:44.080 prior to my

01:20:44.720 relationship

01:20:45.120 I had

01:20:45.520 about

01:20:45.920 say about

01:20:47.080 3,000

01:20:47.800 likes or so

01:20:49.180 in that range

01:20:49.900 well it's

01:20:51.180 Vegas

01:20:51.400 so it's a

01:20:51.800 little different

01:20:52.240 but like

01:20:55.240 even then

01:20:55.700 like I can

01:20:56.200 honestly

01:20:56.740 and openly

01:20:57.440 say like

01:20:57.920 I definitely

01:20:58.720 was very

01:20:59.400 choosy

01:20:59.920 like I

01:21:00.800 didn't go

01:21:01.400 after a

01:21:02.920 guy who

01:21:03.600 like I

01:21:04.600 would read

01:21:05.100 bios

01:21:05.420 I wasn't

01:21:05.840 like going

01:21:06.240 based off

01:21:06.620 of looks

01:21:06.920 but I

01:21:07.140 would definitely

01:21:07.540 like see

01:21:08.480 like okay

01:21:09.040 is this guy

01:21:09.500 even really

01:21:10.700 worth my

01:21:11.100 time especially

01:21:11.680 where I was

01:21:12.480 at because I

01:21:12.800 was a student

01:21:13.260 I was getting

01:21:14.060 my education

01:21:14.600 I was taking

01:21:16.100 care of my

01:21:16.460 parents working

01:21:17.200 doing the whole

01:21:17.820 shebang at 0.99

01:21:18.640 a younger age

01:21:19.460 and I was like

01:21:20.020 okay I'm looking

01:21:20.640 for somebody

01:21:21.060 within my age

01:21:21.640 range even

01:21:21.960 older

01:21:22.280 is this worth

01:21:24.120 my time

01:21:24.560 like is this

01:21:25.080 person worth

01:21:25.580 my time

01:21:25.980 and I you

01:21:27.120 know was

01:21:27.640 again doing

01:21:28.800 that three

01:21:29.140 percent thing

01:21:29.720 where I may

01:21:30.140 be picking

01:21:30.500 like out of

01:21:31.500 a hundred

01:21:31.820 that day

01:21:32.460 I'm so glad

01:21:33.660 I'm not dating

01:21:34.400 donated one

01:21:35.240 hundred dollars

01:21:36.240 IDGAF about

01:21:37.880 my wife's

01:21:38.640 education

01:21:39.280 none or

01:21:40.440 career she's

01:21:41.160 a hyper smart 1.00

01:21:41.960 mother crazy

01:21:43.040 about our

01:21:43.660 kids my belly

01:21:44.760 and my baby

01:21:45.500 gravy in turn

01:21:47.180 I'm motivated

01:21:48.420 to make her

01:21:49.080 happy through

01:21:49.680 my labor

01:21:50.200 slash protection

01:21:51.300 yo I'm so

01:21:52.660 glad

01:21:52.940 and this doesn't

01:21:54.120 surprise me at

01:21:54.840 all right so

01:21:55.680 the super

01:21:56.380 chatter here saying

01:21:57.300 he doesn't give a 0.99

01:21:57.980 shit about any of 0.98

01:21:58.720 that and why 0.99

01:21:59.420 would he she's

01:22:00.400 providing the

01:22:01.500 best possible

01:22:02.280 function for him

01:22:03.160 that he could

01:22:03.600 imagine which is

01:22:04.840 that when he

01:22:05.220 comes home his

01:22:05.940 kids are clean

01:22:06.760 they're fed

01:22:07.640 they're well taken

01:22:08.600 care of that's

01:22:09.700 what he cares

01:22:10.240 about I don't

01:22:11.640 blame him like 0.78

01:22:12.640 that's what else

01:22:13.480 could she ever

01:22:13.960 want you know

01:22:15.220 what I mean

01:22:15.560 that's a great

01:22:16.160 what a great

01:22:16.700 life and that's

01:22:18.100 that's what that

01:22:18.740 chatter there is

01:22:19.400 saying so

01:22:20.040 do you think the

01:22:22.240 disconnect is that

01:22:23.260 you seem like the

01:22:24.720 provider type like

01:22:26.100 you seem like you

01:22:26.660 want to be the

01:22:27.320 provider in the

01:22:28.240 or in your future

01:22:29.300 relationship

01:22:29.860 what do you mean

01:22:30.880 the disconnect

01:22:31.360 like I guess

01:22:32.380 you're or maybe

01:22:33.100 not disconnect

01:22:33.620 but like the

01:22:34.380 back and forth it

01:22:35.140 seems like we're

01:22:35.680 talking about

01:22:36.080 generalization like

01:22:37.640 you and Andrew

01:22:38.300 but you seem like

01:22:39.800 you want to

01:22:41.400 provide for your

01:22:42.540 partner and the

01:22:43.380 general opinion is

01:22:45.420 like oh a woman 0.99

01:22:46.240 is looking for a

01:22:47.120 provider when she

01:22:48.140 gets pregnant nine

01:22:48.980 months someone needs

01:22:49.800 to financially provide

01:22:50.680 for her so if you

01:22:51.400 go with or if you

01:22:53.200 date down or date

01:22:54.460 a broke guy how is

01:22:55.860 he going to provide

01:22:56.460 for you for that

01:22:58.180 for when you're

01:22:58.940 pregnant if you

01:22:59.500 do want kids

01:23:00.220 like do you see

01:23:02.120 yourself as a

01:23:02.880 provider in a

01:23:03.460 relationship yeah

01:23:04.400 yeah of course

01:23:05.100 but um is that

01:23:07.340 your preference do

01:23:08.340 you want to be the

01:23:09.000 provider in a

01:23:09.600 relationship

01:23:09.900 like the bread

01:23:10.100 border the

01:23:10.660 like because you

01:23:11.960 said the stay at

01:23:12.440 home dad thing

01:23:13.000 which is completely

01:23:13.740 valid but I guess

01:23:14.640 how would in your

01:23:15.840 mind I'm just

01:23:16.380 curious of how you

01:23:18.180 think it would work

01:23:18.800 in the future when

01:23:19.580 you are pregnant at 0.97

01:23:20.660 home and you like

01:23:22.220 would you save up all

01:23:23.000 that money and only

01:23:23.980 you or would he go

01:23:25.080 to work for those

01:23:25.760 nine months

01:23:26.340 well there's

01:23:26.760 maternity leave 1.00

01:23:27.560 work mm-hmm

01:23:29.200 you still get

01:23:29.960 paid so in general

01:23:31.580 you're still okay

01:23:32.260 with being the

01:23:32.800 provider oh I'm

01:23:34.120 just a little

01:23:35.240 confused by the

01:23:35.820 nine-month comment

01:23:36.500 because you're

01:23:36.940 working I know I

01:23:38.100 know like nine

01:23:38.760 months are like when

01:23:39.560 you want to stay

01:23:40.240 home for your kids I

01:23:41.480 mean in the field

01:23:42.320 that you want to go

01:23:42.920 to like are you

01:23:44.160 guaranteed maternity 0.98

01:23:45.060 leave for all that

01:23:45.840 time you know what I

01:23:46.720 mean I I've not a

01:23:49.420 hundred percent on

01:23:50.120 this but I'm pretty

01:23:51.180 sure that there is

01:23:52.420 regulations and most

01:23:54.240 of the employment

01:23:55.060 field with maternity 0.54

01:23:56.320 leave aside from the

01:23:57.440 regulations

01:23:57.880 completely completely

01:23:59.380 and totally depends

01:24:00.480 and sometimes it's

01:24:01.340 not paid maternity

01:24:03.180 leave so maybe

01:24:04.180 they'll give you the

01:24:04.640 time off but that

01:24:05.940 doesn't mean that

01:24:06.460 you're getting a

01:24:06.840 paycheck while you

01:24:07.460 have the time off

01:24:08.480 so no it completely

01:24:10.380 depends on what

01:24:11.860 your employer and

01:24:12.680 you have agreed to

01:24:13.480 beforehand so you

01:24:15.880 know diving into

01:24:16.600 this it would be

01:24:17.820 instead of kind of

01:24:18.800 pivoting over to

01:24:19.860 what about maternity

01:24:20.900 leave though you may

01:24:21.700 not qualify for paid

01:24:23.320 maternity leave so 1.00

01:24:24.440 kind of diving back

01:24:26.020 into her question

01:24:26.780 I'd like to know

01:24:27.420 what the answer to

01:24:28.140 it is

01:24:28.640 well I would hope

01:24:32.420 that I am somewhat

01:24:33.320 responsible in a

01:24:34.840 period of my life

01:24:35.740 where I have enough

01:24:36.360 saved then

01:24:37.000 but why is it all

01:24:38.980 on you because

01:24:39.800 again I I

01:24:40.700 understand your

01:24:41.180 point of like if

01:24:42.200 you want to be the

01:24:42.980 breadwinner that's

01:24:43.860 fine you don't have

01:24:44.440 to fall into the

01:24:45.000 generalization but I

01:24:46.660 guess me personally

01:24:47.540 I'm more of like a

01:24:48.260 it's probably not the

01:24:49.520 right word but

01:24:49.940 equalist of like hey

01:24:50.880 we're both going to

01:24:51.460 work equally to do

01:24:52.680 this or save up or

01:24:53.740 whatever so I guess

01:24:55.080 in your like don't

01:24:57.660 mind if he's a

01:24:58.160 stay-at-home dad how

01:24:58.900 would that work I'm

01:24:59.940 just curious

01:25:00.300 well I was saying I

01:25:02.300 don't mind I wouldn't

01:25:03.240 mind if they worked

01:25:03.900 either like that's I

01:25:05.040 don't know who my

01:25:06.300 potential partner in

01:25:07.300 the future is going to

01:25:07.860 be so I can't dictate

01:25:08.860 like what I would

01:25:09.840 necessarily I'm not

01:25:11.420 choosing for I'm only

01:25:13.340 looking for stay-at-home

01:25:14.100 dads or I'm only

01:25:15.060 looking for someone who

01:25:15.940 makes this amount of

01:25:16.900 money but like in that

01:25:18.480 reality I don't think

01:25:19.820 it's I think it's

01:25:21.580 becoming more and more

01:25:22.280 common and for a

01:25:23.740 stay-at-home dad like

01:25:24.720 in the nine months

01:25:25.560 like he can help

01:25:26.640 around the house he

01:25:27.340 can help more with

01:25:27.980 the the baby like I

01:25:29.120 can do remote work

01:25:30.560 like hold on wait

01:25:31.160 okay I got a question

01:25:32.000 here okay so going

01:25:33.240 around the table on

01:25:34.060 this who should pay on

01:25:36.500 the first date starting

01:25:39.160 with you um I I don't

01:25:42.220 really care I I feel

01:25:43.680 like I usually owe them

01:25:46.060 if they I mean I've

01:25:47.440 only been on one date

01:25:48.140 who am I kidding so

01:25:49.060 like did he pay did

01:25:52.540 he pay on that date

01:25:53.460 yeah but then I paid

01:25:54.660 for other things

01:25:56.460 because I I don't

01:25:58.220 like owing people

01:25:59.620 money and if I'm not

01:26:01.300 pursuing a relationship

01:26:02.120 I feel like weird about

01:26:03.380 having other people pay

01:26:04.600 for me what were the

01:26:06.400 other things you paid

01:26:07.100 for like I I cooked

01:26:09.540 you paid you paid for

01:26:12.560 food that you cooked

01:26:13.560 for him is that what

01:26:14.240 you mean yeah

01:26:14.620 ingredients so okay

01:26:16.540 the the reason I asked

01:26:17.900 the question is because

01:26:18.820 you said stay-at-home

01:26:20.120 dads are what becoming

01:26:23.320 like you'd be cool with

01:26:25.320 that or she said

01:26:26.680 they're becoming like

01:26:27.360 more common I think

01:26:28.300 normalized more

01:26:30.240 normalized so as a guy

01:26:31.700 let's say I'm like I

01:26:32.620 hop on a dating app right

01:26:33.780 now and I go on the

01:26:35.040 dating app with the same

01:26:36.100 expectation that a lot

01:26:37.200 of women have that the 1.00

01:26:39.400 woman well the women's 0.62

01:26:41.240 expectations generally

01:26:42.480 speaking not all the time

01:26:43.640 is the guy should pay for

01:26:45.140 the first date okay now

01:26:47.120 in what world can I ever

01:26:48.960 hop on a dating app where

01:26:50.320 my expectation is she's

01:26:52.300 gonna pay for the first

01:26:53.120 date the best I can maybe

01:26:54.700 get is to split there's

01:26:58.580 never a world where I can

01:26:59.800 ever go on a date with

01:27:00.880 girl and anticipate or

01:27:03.720 expect or feel entitled to

01:27:05.300 her paying for the first

01:27:06.780 date yeah I agree with

01:27:10.560 that I think a lot of

01:27:11.380 people have like would

01:27:12.040 that be a losing strategy

01:27:13.120 for me to expect to go on

01:27:14.940 a first date and expect

01:27:16.640 the girl to pay she pays 0.61

01:27:18.120 for me and herself I think

01:27:21.460 you should go in with the

01:27:23.120 mindset at least I'm paying

01:27:24.640 50-50 do is that how you

01:27:27.460 think women go in to dates 1.00

01:27:30.640 generally speaking I'm

01:27:31.940 expecting I could pay the

01:27:33.800 full bill but it's probably

01:27:35.560 like split between like 50-50

01:27:38.500 or the guy's gonna pay but

01:27:39.960 it's almost never I'm gonna

01:27:41.600 pay for the date I don't

01:27:43.280 know what to expect what

01:27:44.120 if their card gets

01:27:44.760 declined this is so 0.97

01:27:46.020 ridiculous look let's dive 0.96

01:27:47.380 into this let's let's make 0.96

01:27:48.620 this super easy because

01:27:50.060 essentially you're just

01:27:50.860 pretending you have no

01:27:51.880 standards and nobody

01:27:53.400 believes you literally

01:27:54.580 nobody believes that this

01:27:55.860 is true at all I didn't

01:27:57.180 say I didn't have standards

01:27:58.240 let's calm down here well

01:28:00.100 I mean well then you have

01:28:01.900 to stop pretending that you

01:28:03.000 don't because you seem to

01:28:04.340 always want to point towards

01:28:05.480 an exception or an outlier

01:28:06.820 right so Brian asks simply

01:28:08.620 he's saying do you think

01:28:10.160 it's a good strategy to go

01:28:12.140 on a dating app with the

01:28:13.200 expectation that the woman's

01:28:15.600 going to pay for you or that

01:28:17.580 it's even going to be a

01:28:18.340 50-50 split does that even

01:28:19.700 seem like a reasonable

01:28:20.740 strategy for the average guy

01:28:22.680 to go into a dating app

01:28:23.820 app considering does that

01:28:26.020 even seem reasonable to you

01:28:27.420 honestly I don't think that's

01:28:29.320 reasonable for the woman or

01:28:30.440 the man to expect that yeah

01:28:33.120 okay but who do you think why

01:28:35.300 would it not be reasonable for

01:28:36.380 the woman to expect that to 1.00

01:28:38.580 expect that the man's going

01:28:39.700 to just completely pay for a

01:28:40.740 date yeah since they always

01:28:42.220 do like why would that be

01:28:43.540 unreasonable to expect that

01:28:45.220 considering that they always

01:28:46.320 do that I just that's a lot

01:28:49.020 of trust in other other

01:28:50.100 humans okay what do you mean

01:28:53.300 what do you mean trust I

01:28:55.240 just be like hey pick me up

01:28:57.220 at you know six and you're

01:28:58.780 paying that it's it's not even

01:29:00.360 complex is it but a card can

01:29:02.460 get declined that was my point

01:29:03.940 like things can happen but

01:29:05.240 there are yeah okay so you

01:29:06.680 bring so you bring your oops

01:29:08.140 this guy's a bum wallet with

01:29:09.740 you right but that aside for

01:29:12.520 the most part it seems like

01:29:14.220 how is it possible that you

01:29:16.040 won't concede that it's a

01:29:17.220 viable strategy for a woman 1.00

01:29:18.800 to go in to dating with the

01:29:21.300 expectation a man will pay for 1.00

01:29:22.520 everything but it's really not

01:29:24.060 a viable strategy for a man 0.95

01:29:25.660 that doesn't seem ridiculous to

01:29:28.140 you that I'm saying that I

01:29:31.060 don't I just don't trust

01:29:32.660 humans in general is my point

01:29:34.000 like I don't think anyone

01:29:35.000 should expect yeah but it's

01:29:36.260 not about you and your

01:29:37.360 preferences or your trust it's

01:29:39.000 asking you a question about

01:29:40.560 how the interpersonal dynamics

01:29:42.240 between men and women and the 0.52

01:29:43.400 question remains is it a more

01:29:45.320 viable strategy for women to 1.00

01:29:47.520 have the expectation that men

01:29:48.860 will pay for dates or is it

01:29:50.960 more viable that the

01:29:52.320 expectation men should have is

01:29:53.800 that women will pay for dates 1.00

01:29:54.940 honestly in general sure just agree

01:30:00.260 I think that they're trying to

01:30:03.640 like make you feel like how can

01:30:06.600 you how can you word it like

01:30:08.160 because you were saying that

01:30:09.420 women don't date up right there 1.00

01:30:11.040 that your belief is that women

01:30:12.380 don't now don't date up and that

01:30:15.160 it all sounds like they're trying

01:30:17.500 to tell you no they do date up

01:30:19.940 they only date up because they do

01:30:21.760 if you I mean yeah I mean in

01:30:23.440 general they they do and I think

01:30:25.600 that you have your own personal

01:30:27.520 belief but there's like a

01:30:28.920 generalized concept of like women 0.76

01:30:32.260 and men going on dates and men

01:30:34.360 paying for the first date in

01:30:36.280 general just a social convention

01:30:38.080 or social yeah whatever so like

01:30:40.100 if someone if someone's on a

01:30:41.800 dating app and you're like if I'm a

01:30:44.720 man and I'm hitting on this woman 1.00

01:30:46.880 and then we decide to go on a

01:30:48.600 date technically like 80% of the

01:30:51.700 time I'm just throwing a random

01:30:52.560 number out there 80% of the time

01:30:54.640 the man is going to be expected to

01:30:56.880 pay for the date so that's more of

01:30:59.580 like a generalized but do you think

01:31:02.540 if the woman offers to like oh I 0.89

01:31:04.780 I can take like I let's go on a

01:31:06.860 date or go to a date for me they'll

01:31:09.700 pay then if I ask somebody to go on

01:31:11.960 a date I'm paying yeah grid one

01:31:14.920 motorsports I have something 100

01:31:16.960 dollars I realize it is asking a

01:31:19.540 lot but can we get the dollar tree

01:31:21.340 stripper back somewhere close to 0.99

01:31:23.220 reality we all know she has never

01:31:25.440 actually paid for a date and dates

01:31:27.300 men based on theater wallet be 0.84

01:31:29.740 better dollar tree stripper uh thank

01:31:32.400 your grid one motorsports appreciate

01:31:34.120 it um who's the dollar tree stripper

01:31:36.840 I'm gonna guess me but I've only been

01:31:38.740 on one date so like what is he gonna

01:31:40.560 you're not dollar tree

01:31:42.320 wait so then he was so then he was

01:31:45.620 right though he's not actually not

01:31:47.960 about the dollar tree not about the

01:31:49.220 dollar tree

01:31:49.600 that uh you've never paid for a date

01:31:54.560 in your life no I have actually with

01:31:56.020 my ex-boyfriend we went on lots of

01:31:57.660 what wait no no no you said that uh

01:32:01.040 you on your you've only ever been on

01:32:03.240 one date that's your words one date

01:32:05.740 outside of my ex that's one you can't

01:32:08.380 say and also I went on these other

01:32:10.160 dates outside of this one date because

01:32:12.120 that wouldn't make any sense so you

01:32:13.400 went on one date and on the one date

01:32:15.520 he didn't pay so grid one said you've

01:32:17.600 never paid for a date in your life

01:32:18.740 he's right outside of my ex yes

01:32:22.060 correct but you've been on more than

01:32:25.040 one date then I've been only on a

01:32:28.420 random date with a random person once

01:32:30.280 right I was already dating my boyfriend

01:32:32.460 when we went on dates and you didn't

01:32:35.460 pay for that date right I've uh the one

01:32:37.960 date nope I didn't right so then I

01:32:40.460 offered if so facto the logic here is

01:32:42.840 all the dates that you consider dates

01:32:44.840 that you've ever been on you've never

01:32:46.120 paid for any of them yep a hundred

01:32:49.100 percent a hundred percent success rate

01:32:50.880 a hundred percent the one the one

01:32:52.420 success rate I have the saying the

01:32:54.460 chatter was right that's all I have a

01:32:56.760 scenario here I have a scenario here so

01:32:59.040 okay your position is that generally

01:33:01.260 speaking women really aren't dating up 1.00

01:33:03.220 is that correct it's the general

01:33:05.060 statement that's your position okay so

01:33:07.980 let's do a scenario so you have a high

01:33:11.720 status individual okay uh let's I'm

01:33:16.180 trying to think I'm trying to think of

01:33:17.240 an actual celebrity example I could give

01:33:19.260 let's say you have

01:33:21.220 I'm trying to think of like who's a

01:33:31.320 dude that a lot of women like Leonardo 1.00

01:33:34.360 DiCaprio

01:33:35.080 Johnny Dunn oh Jacob Elordi don't people

01:33:38.000 like that there you go

01:33:38.700 uh let's just say like a famous musician

01:33:42.500 famous actor whatever he's in a bar

01:33:44.500 Drake

01:33:44.840 okay we can use Drake

01:33:46.740 he's got that snake uh Drake is

01:33:49.940 okay

01:33:50.520 Drake's in the bar Drake's Drake's in the

01:33:55.320 bar and there's a bunch of women in the 1.00

01:33:57.460 bar and there's a bunch of there's like 21

01:34:01.000 year old really attractive nobody women 0.95

01:34:04.060 in the bar and then there's like a 33

01:34:07.440 year old average woman who's very 1.00

01:34:12.680 successful and maybe she's got a bit of 0.84

01:34:15.340 status herself maybe she's also uh you 0.92

01:34:17.800 know a singer or something and you know

01:34:19.900 she's had a couple hits herself uh who do 0.67

01:34:22.960 you think that he's gonna go after to

01:34:26.360 sleep with anything dating sleeping

01:34:30.140 dating having a relationship well I

01:34:33.080 think relationship wise it depends

01:34:35.300 because you you see his past

01:34:36.780 relationships if you want to pull up

01:34:38.680 actual him okay he just dated both

01:34:40.760 doesn't he date like he dates

01:34:42.760 IG model and he dates singers yeah

01:34:45.840 usually IG but men generally only care if

01:34:48.460 a woman is attractive and it has good 1.00

01:34:50.220 motherly qualities whereas women oh 1.00

01:34:52.860 sister sorry go ahead go ahead I'll

01:34:54.180 continue women typically want to be 1.00

01:34:56.180 taken care of by their man which is why

01:34:58.460 they date up is they want that security

01:35:00.200 and they want the financial

01:35:02.180 responsibility that if they do have

01:35:04.200 kids or if they're nine months pregnant

01:35:05.880 they're not gonna have to worry about

01:35:07.100 that and they have security both

01:35:09.300 financially and just overall and that's

01:35:12.240 why women typically date up and I think 0.99

01:35:14.460 you are an outlier but to say

01:35:16.760 generally women think like you I think 0.74

01:35:19.080 it's completely wrong well I was saying

01:35:21.020 younger generations it could be

01:35:22.680 different I don't think no it's worse

01:35:24.680 in the younger I feel like it's worse

01:35:26.460 I feel like it's more trendy to date

01:35:28.140 up especially on everything you're not

01:35:29.760 dating intentionally right now right

01:35:31.300 yeah because you're focusing on your

01:35:32.640 career what I think is that a lot of

01:35:34.920 modern women are moving that way 1.00

01:35:37.200 because there are they're gonna date up

01:35:39.420 or not date at all because they want to

01:35:41.540 focus on whatever they're doing get

01:35:43.020 their bag or whatever okay so I

01:35:44.580 actually I made an error in presenting

01:35:47.220 this scenario so the scenario is not

01:35:48.960 this the scenario is actually from the

01:35:51.020 perspective of the the interested

01:35:56.760 perhaps interested individual so let's

01:35:59.560 say you have a I'm trying to think here

01:36:03.680 let's say you okay you have a 25 year

01:36:07.620 old guy and he has a choice of going

01:36:11.620 after the really hot 21 year old girl in 0.97

01:36:15.200 the bar okay who's got no following on

01:36:18.020 Instagram but she's really attractive or 0.91

01:36:20.420 there's a 33 year old I don't know who's 0.99

01:36:24.120 fucking Rihanna okay Rihanna sure okay 0.99

01:36:28.580 he's going for Rihanna who wouldn't 1.00

01:36:32.140 no there's not gonna be a bunch of dudes

01:36:36.860 like wanting to get at Rihanna if there's

01:36:40.320 like more physically attractive women in 1.00

01:36:42.920 that environment however if you place

01:36:45.220 women in that same environment and 1.00

01:36:47.440 there's just like a 21 year old attractive

01:36:49.920 guy versus a 33 year old average looking

01:36:55.620 woman who has a who's rich and has a 1.00

01:36:57.980 bunch of status they're not gonna all

01:36:59.620 like oh yeah I really want to like sleep

01:37:02.720 with her and date her no they're gonna 0.87

01:37:05.520 gravitate towards the younger attractive

01:37:08.480 women I mean aren't you also have no 1.00

01:37:10.740 status but then we that's more of the

01:37:13.760 actual idea of like fame and like the

01:37:15.780 fake image of fame and right dating up

01:37:18.380 status and that status can be so status

01:37:22.960 is dating even if they're need to be fame

01:37:25.220 right you can have there's other ways

01:37:27.480 that men can achieve status maybe they 0.83

01:37:29.580 have status in their work or something

01:37:31.280 like this yeah maybe they just have tons

01:37:33.820 of cash but not not be what you would

01:37:36.480 consider traditionally famous so that's

01:37:40.180 all that's being stated is a follow-up is

01:37:42.600 a follow-up question here too I'd like to

01:37:44.420 ask you you do plan on at some point

01:37:47.580 getting married I'm guessing or no yep

01:37:50.280 okay are you planning then since you have

01:37:54.020 this career on having your children be

01:37:57.040 babysat by babysitters or do you plan on

01:37:59.740 staying home and taking care of your of

01:38:01.940 your kids I my family can help yeah that

01:38:09.260 doesn't I mean that's just dumping them

01:38:11.280 with somebody else right are you planning

01:38:12.760 on staying home with them or not no you're

01:38:17.320 not you're not planning on staying home

01:38:18.740 with your kids no I think we're gonna

01:38:20.400 nine-to-five and then coming home after

01:38:22.060 and do you do you think that it's optimal

01:38:25.860 optimal for kids that they don't have a

01:38:28.260 stay-at-home mom or that they do have a

01:38:29.760 stay-at-home mom optimal I think either

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01:38:52.660 Sounds good. Sounds good.

01:38:56.560 Yeah. I have question

01:38:57.620 Which thing do you think is

01:38:58.020 more optimal for the of the children?

01:39:00.820 Optimal for the children?

01:39:02.540 Optimal is both parents stay at home.

01:39:05.540 Who's paying the bills?

01:39:07.020 That's not...

01:39:07.720 That's the most often.

01:39:09.040 I don't get that question.

01:39:11.240 In a realistic scenario.

01:39:13.040 So instead of giving a dishonest answer, give an honest answer.

01:39:18.080 One parent is going to have to work.

01:39:20.200 There's no way around that, generally, right?

01:39:23.240 But two parents don't have to work, again, generally.

01:39:28.160 In that situation, do you think that it's optimal if one parent does not have to work

01:39:33.320 to choose to work when they could stay at home with their kids?

01:39:39.360 Do I think it's optimal that...

01:39:44.680 This is such a loaded question because you're saying if you had to choose one,

01:39:48.480 if you had to, there's always going to be one.

01:39:51.460 It's not loaded.

01:39:52.500 Do you love your mom or dad more?

01:39:55.080 It's not who you pick.

01:39:56.000 Now, hang on.

01:40:00.200 When we dive into this, so I'll answer your question first, okay?

01:40:04.260 Love my dad more.

01:40:05.860 That's crazy.

01:40:06.240 Does that make you feel better?

01:40:07.660 Now, to you, can you actually answer my question?

01:40:12.760 I don't think it's optimal, no.

01:40:15.140 You don't think which thing is optimal?

01:40:18.420 I do not think a mom staying at home is optimal. 1.00

01:40:22.840 Really?

01:40:23.220 So, what is optimal?

01:40:27.700 I think, see, that's the thing.

01:40:29.780 I think optimal is depending on each situation.

01:40:33.820 You think that strangers raising your children is optimal? 0.97

01:40:36.300 Why are we assuming that, like, both my parents worked growing up.

01:40:42.000 I don't care what you say if you're like, oh, makes sense now.

01:40:44.620 Is that optimal?

01:40:46.760 There's after-school programs.

01:40:48.480 There's things, and then you go home, you see your parents a perfect amount of time.

01:40:52.120 You see them all the time on weekends.

01:40:53.500 That was a perfect amount of time.

01:40:54.420 What would be your frame of reference to make the determination that was a perfect amount of time?

01:40:58.660 Wouldn't it have been better if your mom had stayed home with you?

01:41:02.740 Not necessarily.

01:41:03.720 I love to see where my mom is in life. 1.00

01:41:05.820 I love to see her success.

01:41:09.160 No, for you, not for her.

01:41:11.060 For you.

01:41:12.020 Yet, for me, it's a great role model.

01:41:13.820 I like looking up to my mom.

01:41:15.300 So, I think, yes, it was optimal for me.

01:41:18.240 So, you can't actually say right now, right this second, in front of everybody, that you actually believe that it's not optimal to have a mom stay at home with her children. 0.91

01:41:31.180 I just want that reaffirmed.

01:41:33.500 That's why I said it's a loaded question.

01:41:35.140 I think it's determined.

01:41:35.840 It's not loaded.

01:41:36.480 It depends on the household, but the reason I'm saying it's not optimal, if you give me the choice of two, yes or no, I'm saying no.

01:41:45.540 Okay, well, then let's get hyper-specific because otherwise you'll make the bold claim that it's loaded.

01:41:51.640 You have two parents in the household.

01:41:55.060 One makes enough money where the other one doesn't have to work, but they won't be able to do all their vacations and fun time and stuff like this.

01:42:02.420 But the mom can stay home with the kids, should she? 1.00

01:42:07.320 And I'm going to give a direct example.

01:42:10.160 My parents, my dad was well off, where my mom did not have to work, but she chose to.

01:42:15.920 And I...

01:42:17.600 What?

01:42:18.540 So, question.

01:42:19.420 Wait, you're...

01:42:20.300 And that was optimal?

01:42:21.700 That was optimal, yes.

01:42:23.160 Your dad...

01:42:24.560 And so, if you were to take all of the research, it's because you like research, that's been done on this topic, showing whether or not the outcomes for children who are in a home where they have a present parent, which outcomes are better for children?

01:42:40.920 But what do you mean present parent?

01:42:42.340 Because she was very present.

01:42:43.680 It's just you had to...

01:42:45.080 Oh, stay at home with the children.

01:42:46.480 I'm sorry.

01:42:46.960 Stay at home with the children versus babysitters and outsourcing childcare.

01:42:51.440 The mom stays home.

01:42:52.980 Which outcomes for the children generally are better, with or without the stay at home mom? 0.98

01:42:56.960 You're acting like they're sleeping in the office.

01:42:59.560 They're...

01:42:59.760 Which ones are generally better for the children?

01:43:04.360 Which ones?

01:43:05.800 Having a parent figure around or not?

01:43:07.600 Having a parent figure around.

01:43:08.500 No, that's not my question.

01:43:09.720 Out of these two, these two summarizations, one, you have a mom who stays at home, two, you do not.

01:43:17.400 That's it.

01:43:18.120 Those two things.

01:43:19.120 It can't be both, right?

01:43:20.540 Just one or the other.

01:43:22.180 The outcomes for the children in those situations do better under which model?

01:43:28.280 The mom staying home.

01:43:30.040 Right.

01:43:30.500 The mom staying home.

01:43:31.800 So, wouldn't that then, if you thought that you wanted the best outcomes for children, lead your logic into the belief that if the mom can stay home, she should? 0.74

01:43:44.800 Not necessarily, because in my...

01:43:46.800 Like I said, in my case...

01:43:48.800 In general, in general.

01:43:50.400 You say there has been, like, stats of that when a child or children have their mother figure specifically present, especially in the first years of life.

01:44:00.060 And I get it.

01:44:00.500 Like, you're saying nine to five, come home.

01:44:02.520 Okay, great.

01:44:03.120 But, like, I'm talking, like, around the clock for those first couple of years, or I don't know what the exact statistic was.

01:44:08.740 But they have way less, like, mental issues and just, in general, they are better off when they grow up.

01:44:15.760 To have that, I forget what it's called, but, like, when a mother gives birth to their child, that bond or whatever, like, that touch-to-touch, that mental bond that keeps going through their first one year, two years, whatever.

01:44:29.800 And to not have that or to have that be lesser could negatively impact them.

01:44:35.000 So I'm saying, or I think he's saying, statistically, I think it's optimal for the woman to be home, or the mother.

01:44:42.320 Okay, so, hold on.

01:44:43.780 So, can you tell us a little bit of details, and then we're going to move on.

01:44:47.840 We've lingered way too long.

01:44:49.580 So, your dad was well off.

01:44:55.740 Nickelodeon donated $100.

01:44:58.560 Apparently, dad was only communicating with the nanny, which is why JoJo doesn't know how to communicate with men.

01:45:05.440 You still think mom was a good role model? 1.00

01:45:09.560 That's hard.

01:45:11.540 Do you want to respond to it?

01:45:13.760 I don't know how to talk to people.

01:45:15.740 I agree.

01:45:16.820 It's wholeheartedly.

01:45:18.440 All right, we have, I'm just...

01:45:20.020 I do have a question for her.

01:45:21.380 Hold on.

01:45:22.220 Hold on.

01:45:23.120 We have another one coming in.

01:45:24.600 Hold on.

01:45:25.140 Grid One Motorsports donated $100.

01:45:29.120 Men are proven better at child-rearing, but they are also better providers.

01:45:33.660 So, the best case is the mom stays home and does what the dad says when it comes to the children. 0.52

01:45:38.900 The patriarchy is here for you.

01:45:41.540 Based.

01:45:41.960 I just love Grid One Motorsports, by the way.

01:45:45.240 Gotta be my favorite chatter at this point.

01:45:47.080 Oh, he's super-based.

01:45:48.180 Super-based.

01:45:49.400 Wait, okay.

01:45:49.780 So, my question for you is, you said your dad was well-off.

01:45:54.240 What are we talking here?

01:45:55.620 What do you mean?

01:45:56.220 When you say well-off, like, it sounds like your mom didn't have to work.

01:46:02.280 Mm-hmm.

01:46:03.180 But she chose to anyway?

01:46:05.320 Yeah.

01:46:06.100 Did you have, did you have to pay for, or did they have to pay for childcare so that she 0.97

01:46:12.560 could go to work?

01:46:13.520 Yeah, we had babysitters, after-school programs.

01:46:15.720 Even though she didn't have to work?

01:46:17.360 Mm-hmm.

01:46:17.540 How much was she making? 1.00

01:46:18.620 Do you know?

01:46:19.700 Oh, she's a lawyer. 0.60

01:46:21.020 I'll just...

01:46:21.480 She's a lawyer? 1.00

01:46:23.800 And your dad, I assume, is...

01:46:26.120 He's well-off.

01:46:27.840 I'll just say that.

01:46:28.460 Is he a business owner?

01:46:29.880 He, yeah, business, corporate stuff.

01:46:32.800 He earned more than your mom?

01:46:34.400 Yeah.

01:46:34.720 Well, hold on.

01:46:35.220 You have an example in your own life of a woman dating up.

01:46:39.440 But he wasn't up when they met.

01:46:42.620 Huh?

01:46:43.120 He wasn't up when they met.

01:46:45.300 He was like...

01:46:45.820 She married him, right?

01:46:47.060 They were high school sweethearts.

01:46:49.600 Okay.

01:46:49.820 But he was like a high school dropout, pretty much.

01:46:52.400 Okay.

01:46:52.880 So, what would you say then?

01:46:53.780 They got married, and he was like a high school dropout.

01:46:56.400 Okay.

01:46:57.000 Uh-oh.

01:46:57.320 So, she married down in this standard?

01:46:59.120 Maybe she saw the potential.

01:47:01.560 That's crazy.

01:47:02.800 She saw the potential.

01:47:03.680 In any case, the man she ended up with and married to was so well-off that he could have

01:47:10.380 an attorney, oh, stay at home.

01:47:12.980 You don't need to go make six figures.

01:47:15.780 But she chose to anyways.

01:47:17.700 Yeah, she chose to... 0.97

01:47:19.620 Is it a seven-figure-a-year type of dude?

01:47:21.840 I feel like I shouldn't release that information.

01:47:24.660 Wait, are you...

01:47:25.220 I have a question.

01:47:25.880 Are you...

01:47:26.660 Politically, how do you consider yourself?

01:47:29.240 What do you think I am?

01:47:30.200 I don't know.

01:47:31.020 Are you...

01:47:31.540 I'm trying to see if you're like a socialist.

01:47:33.220 I would say that you're a social progressive.

01:47:35.100 As much of a social progressive as you can get, even if you don't think you are.

01:47:39.520 That's what I would say.

01:47:41.600 What are you politically?

01:47:43.200 I'm more to the left, yes.

01:47:45.140 Are you a socialist?

01:47:46.540 I would say I'm more of a capitalist.

01:47:49.640 More of a capitalist.

01:47:50.340 Yeah, she's a social progressive. 0.99

01:47:53.000 So she's a social leftist. 0.51

01:47:55.120 Basically, these are called status quo progressives.

01:47:58.240 So, yeah, I love capitalism and some patriotism is good, this and that, but everything else

01:48:04.620 is through a left-wing frame.

01:48:06.480 So that's a social progressive, essentially.

01:48:08.620 Okay.

01:48:12.340 It's interesting.

01:48:13.180 What kind of law did your mom, does she practice or... 0.99

01:48:17.520 Right now, it's like more contract law.

01:48:20.060 Contract law?

01:48:22.740 Is law really, like, I just, I don't know.

01:48:25.620 I mean, if your dad's...

01:48:26.840 She could have not worked.

01:48:28.780 Is that correct?

01:48:29.420 Yes.

01:48:29.960 But she chose to work? 0.96

01:48:31.360 Yes.

01:48:32.760 It's never too much money.

01:48:34.600 I think she's viewing it.

01:48:35.720 Like, I think her standpoint, your standpoint's more, I don't know if I'm right or wrong,

01:48:41.280 but based on, like, the points that you're making, I think you're viewing it as the potential

01:48:48.700 breadwinner in a relationship, right?

01:48:51.240 Well, then, wait, are you...

01:48:52.660 I really want to move on, but are you arriving at a point here soon?

01:48:57.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:48:58.500 So, like, what I'm saying is, like, okay, you say that you would want to, like, stay a...

01:49:05.720 I'm not an at-home mom, but, like, you have to keep in mind that even though you are a

01:49:11.140 breadwinner in a relationship, if you decide to date someone who does not make the same

01:49:15.500 amount of money, if not more, and, like, let's say you have the baby, and you're like,

01:49:18.960 oh, sweet baby, I want to stay with you at home now, who's going to be making the money?

01:49:26.340 So you're saying opinions change?

01:49:28.040 Yeah, his career path could change, too.

01:49:30.140 He could maybe start wanting to make money.

01:49:32.220 Could, but it doesn't mean it will.

01:49:33.080 Other things can happen outside for the question you asked me.

01:49:35.140 What about that?

01:49:37.120 What about the fact that other things could also happen that you didn't detail in your

01:49:41.120 hypothetical?

01:49:41.800 What about those things?

01:49:42.320 Well, it's a hypothetical, so that means there's a lot of outside facts.

01:49:46.820 I think she's just the outlier.

01:49:49.000 Yeah.

01:49:49.100 Getting an answer out of you is like pulling teeth.

01:49:52.400 Sure.

01:49:52.840 It is.

01:49:53.680 It's a ghoulish nightmare.

01:49:54.780 I am an absolute nightmare.

01:49:56.960 I agree with that.

01:49:58.300 Why she hasn't been on one date.

01:49:59.580 Wait, you've been single?

01:50:00.700 I was going to say, you've been single for two years.

01:50:03.140 All right.

01:50:03.500 It's all making sense, though.

01:50:05.280 One quick question.

01:50:06.420 We're checking in with the chat here.

01:50:07.800 Chat.

01:50:08.820 Is Andrew's audio good?

01:50:11.160 We lowered it a little bit, but is it too low?

01:50:14.220 Is it too low or is the audio?

01:50:16.200 One in the chat if Andrew's audio is good.

01:50:18.880 Two in the chat if it's too low.

01:50:21.260 One in the chat if audio is good.

01:50:22.960 Two in the chat if it's too low.

01:50:24.140 Nick, can you pull up Twitch really quick?

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01:50:56.360 Okay.

01:50:56.960 Here, moving on.

01:50:57.760 We do need to do a couple chats, actually.

01:50:59.500 So here, Maddie, let me have you read this one.

01:51:02.920 Are you okay with somebody who is weak-willed as well as broke?

01:51:06.900 Providing is more than just financial support.

01:51:11.320 Are you willing to be the one who holds it all together in a mental capacity as well?

01:51:17.100 I think this is geared towards you.

01:51:18.540 I think it's directed towards you.

01:51:19.940 Back at it.

01:51:20.580 Quick answer.

01:51:21.020 Quick answer is I don't think the broke comment is necessarily with all aspirations.

01:51:26.220 I think you can be doing a lot of other hobbies.

01:51:28.080 Like I said, I need someone hyperactive, so.

01:51:30.260 Okay.

01:51:32.300 We have this.

01:51:33.780 Maddie.

01:51:34.540 Jojo, you're super cute and have a great personality.

01:51:37.320 Would you be interested in a law school student who's moving back to SD in May?

01:51:41.220 I'm 30, built like a tank, and have a six-figure job lined up.

01:51:44.820 However, I do have a young daughter.

01:51:46.720 Aw.

01:51:48.000 Sure.

01:51:49.980 Sure, that's it.

01:51:51.020 Well, I don't know anything about him.

01:51:53.140 He has a great personality.

01:51:54.080 Is this?

01:51:54.500 Does he?

01:51:55.100 Hit her up on our DMs.

01:51:56.500 He's a tank. 0.98

01:51:57.580 You must go.

01:51:57.700 Do you have any questions for him you want to ask him?

01:51:59.840 Ask Screwdriver.

01:52:02.380 Yeah.

01:52:02.720 What's your relationship like with the mother of the daughter?

01:52:05.540 Does he need a photo?

01:52:06.500 Should he put a photo on his profile instead of the S?

01:52:09.320 Yeah, maybe.

01:52:09.900 So you can see what he looks like?

01:52:10.820 Yeah.

01:52:11.120 Okay.

01:52:11.680 He has a great personality, though.

01:52:12.800 Height doesn't matter, though.

01:52:14.180 No.

01:52:14.740 Screwdriver, just let us know you're high just to check.

01:52:17.700 See how much it matters.

01:52:20.060 She demonstrates.

01:52:20.560 Oh, we're not reading that.

01:52:21.820 I don't know if that was long enough duration.

01:52:25.260 You can show it a little longer, Nick.

01:52:27.320 Okay, here, moving on.

01:52:28.740 So going back to the original question, anybody disagree with anything besides her?

01:52:34.540 Oh, the original question.

01:52:35.120 Anybody else?

01:52:35.740 Oh, yeah, we're going way back.

01:52:36.620 Does anybody disagree with anything?

01:52:37.740 Because the other one was like pay on the first date.

01:52:39.160 Oh, yeah.

01:52:39.680 We didn't finish the pay on the first date.

01:52:41.920 Oh, yeah.

01:52:42.220 Oh, eh.

01:52:43.120 Maybe we'll come back there later.

01:52:44.560 That's the OG question.

01:52:45.500 What was the original question?

01:52:46.520 Does anybody disagree with anything that you've heard about from the podcast?

01:52:51.020 Anything?

01:52:52.680 Oh, man.

01:52:53.600 There's been so many podcasts.

01:52:56.940 Not that I can think off the top of my head right now.

01:53:00.460 No.

01:53:01.120 No.

01:53:02.580 I guess there was one episode that you guys did of it was like a girl who I think it was like a 0.90

01:53:10.120 she said they were like pay pigs or something.

01:53:12.400 And then she would just get paid to ask for money for them. 0.93

01:53:17.200 And then you said a statement of life on easy mode.

01:53:20.200 And I was just curious if that if you still have that perspective towards like exotic dancers

01:53:25.860 and stuff like that.

01:53:27.220 Oh, actually, I see.

01:53:28.000 Yes.

01:53:28.600 So you wrote the life on easy mode topic pertaining to.

01:53:31.940 Wait, is this this is directed at me, correct?

01:53:34.160 Yeah.

01:53:34.500 OK, I agree.

01:53:35.780 You said that you agree that it is easy to just go on Tinder and get a sugar daddy.

01:53:39.520 But I'm curious on your stance on OnlyFans and exotic dancers.

01:53:42.680 Do you consider still consider that easy mode?

01:53:45.020 So, I mean, I've made two statements on this.

01:53:47.460 I've I've said that a lot of women have life on easy mode. 1.00

01:53:51.620 And I've also said that women have dating on easy mode. 0.99

01:53:54.660 So I can certainly start on the dating on easy mode.

01:53:58.460 Is that did you object to that one to no dating on easy mode?

01:54:01.960 You agree that women have dating on easy mode. 0.87

01:54:04.640 I believe.

01:54:05.200 Does anybody disagree with that?

01:54:06.860 No, I bet she does.

01:54:07.700 But she got up to the bathroom. 0.98

01:54:10.160 So you guys have dating on easy mode.

01:54:11.900 You concede.

01:54:12.740 Yeah.

01:54:13.280 You're just going to let me bulldoze over you. 1.00

01:54:15.480 You're just going to concede that women have dating on easy mode. 0.98

01:54:18.300 It depends on the person.

01:54:20.360 No, sometimes I feel like people will just like disagree.

01:54:22.900 You know, Brian, I will disagree.

01:54:24.480 I will disagree.

01:54:25.240 OK?

01:54:25.620 No, but now don't let me bulldoze you. 0.99

01:54:27.740 You've got to call on makeup on. 0.86

01:54:28.980 Dating is not easy mode for you, girl.

01:54:30.960 I do think that it depends on the person that you're talking to.

01:54:34.380 What do you mean it depends? 1.00

01:54:35.680 Any woman, any woman, even she, any woman can be a slut. 1.00

01:54:40.400 Let's start there. 1.00

01:54:41.180 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:41.660 Any woman can be a slut. 1.00

01:54:42.980 Not every guy. 1.00

01:54:44.500 I tend to frame it like not every guy can be a stud, but let's just say not every guy can be a slut. 0.99

01:54:49.580 Of course. 0.99

01:54:49.760 Very few men can be a slut, in fact. 1.00

01:54:51.760 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:51.920 So you can at least get to the point of, well, meeting the person, having sex with them.

01:54:57.160 That's getting a lot further along in the dating process than a lot of men can even get. 0.58

01:55:03.880 If you consider that to be important in the dating aspect.

01:55:06.840 Well, it's like your foot in the door.

01:55:08.740 At least.

01:55:09.380 Okay, so if you're, if you don't partake in hookup culture, for example, for me, personally.

01:55:14.580 But you have the capacity to, is the difference.

01:55:16.540 I feel like everyone has the capacity to.

01:55:18.180 No, no, no.

01:55:18.400 Do women have a more potential to do so? 1.00

01:55:21.440 Yes.

01:55:21.820 No, but here's my position.

01:55:23.380 So the vast majority of men don't even have the capacity to participate in hookup culture.

01:55:28.720 But that's only because they are picky. 0.92

01:55:32.240 If they absolutely want to be sluts, there are women, you call them bottom of the barrel, whatever, that they could be hooking up with. 1.00

01:55:38.640 They just choose not to. 0.98

01:55:39.620 But for the sake of argument, if women date up, they're not going for those men. 1.00

01:55:43.300 Yeah. 0.99

01:55:43.520 But I would argue that women who are, say, average looking can be sluts. 1.00

01:55:48.980 And they could exclusively choose men that are more attractive than they are. 0.98

01:55:52.780 Yes, I agree.

01:55:53.860 I agree with that.

01:55:54.460 So you're saying, so again, I mean, even if I were to concede that while men can be sluts so long as they date like three, four, five points below them in looks, and even then I would argue, still, not really. 0.97

01:56:08.940 But women still have the capacity to, like, procure sex from men who are way more attractive than they are. 1.00

01:56:16.280 I agree with that completely. 0.93

01:56:17.260 I think women have it on easy mode when it comes to hookups or maybe likes on a dating app or right swipes, whatever you want to call it. 1.00

01:56:24.700 But as far as actually finding a long-term relationship, I think it's equally hard for men.

01:56:29.440 Disagree.

01:56:30.220 Totally disagree.

01:56:31.140 Why?

01:56:31.820 No, because I think a lot of men just want to hook up with women and they're not interested in long-term commitment.

01:56:36.960 Okay, let me ask you guys a question.

01:56:38.080 Do you guys currently have any guys in the friend zone?

01:56:41.200 Do you have any guys in the friend zone?

01:56:43.240 Would you be prepared to be in a relationship with you?

01:56:45.340 Well, most of my friend zone guys are in relationships.

01:56:49.460 What?

01:56:50.220 But, like, what about when you put them...

01:56:51.960 I friend zone them prior to the relationship.

01:56:53.860 Yeah, but, okay, so...

01:56:54.880 And they're now in relationships.

01:56:56.440 Could, at the time...

01:56:57.460 Yeah, but Malik, he's asking if there's any men you know of who have a romantic interest in you that you do not reciprocate who are your friends.

01:57:06.900 Yes.

01:57:07.240 Okay, so most men don't just have a handful or even dozens of men in the pocket that, oh, hmm, Becky, I... 1.00

01:57:16.200 Okay, I could be in a relationship with...

01:57:18.340 Most men never have women in the pocket like that, whereas most women will have at least one dude who they could get into a relationship with at any given time. 0.97

01:57:28.040 Because usually those women have moved on, too. 0.99

01:57:30.200 Like, if they're in their back pocket, usually when you come back to them, they've probably moved on.

01:57:34.020 Well, I think the reason for that is men typically...

01:57:38.600 To the argument of men and women can't be friends, I think women are more than capable of being friends with men with no romantic interest.

01:57:46.440 But I don't think men are really capable of being friends with women that they don't find attractive or see a benefit in the friendship in the future.

01:57:55.920 So that's why a lot of men will have a lot of women friends, and maybe sometimes they do end up in the friend zone. 0.91

01:58:00.680 But women generally will be friends with multiple people, regardless of if they see romantic potential.

01:58:06.760 I agree.

01:58:08.280 Okay.

01:58:09.060 Yeah.

01:58:09.540 And?

01:58:10.160 And that's why men don't have a back pocket of friend-zoned women, because they're not even going to be talking to a woman in the first place if they don't see a romantic potential. 0.81

01:58:18.860 Well, also, women don't really pursue men. 1.00

01:58:21.920 I disagree.

01:58:23.080 To the same degree.

01:58:25.100 I disagree.

01:58:25.640 You think women hitting on men... 1.00

01:58:27.960 You don't disagree, Malik, that men are the ones out there pursuing the women for the most part. 0.73

01:58:33.500 Come on.

01:58:34.120 Do you genuinely disagree?

01:58:36.280 Do you think that...

01:58:36.960 I didn't say...

01:58:37.260 Hold on, hold on.

01:58:37.740 Do you think that women are approaching men and DMing men at the same frequency that men... 1.00

01:58:44.960 Fuck no. 1.00

01:58:45.740 Okay. 1.00

01:58:46.480 Checkmate.

01:58:47.500 That's not a checkmate.

01:58:48.420 That's a checkmate. 0.99

01:58:49.200 That's just ridiculous, Malik. 1.00

01:58:50.580 Ridiculous on his face. 1.00

01:58:51.880 What do you do with this? 0.99

01:58:52.520 You said women do not pursue men. 0.90

01:58:53.360 Don't put the other half of the clown makeup on in the bathroom.

01:58:55.280 Women do pursue men, not at the rate that men pursue women, though.

01:59:00.960 Tilt your mic down a little bit.

01:59:02.700 Right, but...

01:59:03.420 Okay.

01:59:04.100 Are they pursuing them for, like, sexual advances or, like, for relationships?

01:59:07.540 Both men and women pursue each other.

01:59:09.260 Men just pursue women at a significantly higher rate.

01:59:11.840 Well, I'm talking about that initial initiative.

01:59:15.780 Any guy that I've talked with, wherever it's supposed to, I've been the one to initiate it.

01:59:23.040 Okay.

01:59:23.440 Yeah, but you're the exception, and you know that.

01:59:25.760 Yeah, okay.

01:59:26.280 Like, you know, you know that.

01:59:27.480 I think generally...

01:59:28.260 You're in the Twitch...

01:59:29.040 Okay, you're in the Twitch space.

01:59:30.500 I know you're in the Twitch space.

01:59:32.120 You know how this works.

01:59:33.640 Oh, wait, sorry.

01:59:34.160 You know that men are the pursuers.

01:59:35.900 You know that.

01:59:36.440 One second, one second.

01:59:37.340 I wouldn't be able to keep my stable of side chicks if it wasn't for women like this 1.00

01:59:41.620 cosigning the lies that I tell them.

01:59:43.960 You are helping us high net worth men pump and dump these girls on birth control. 1.00

01:59:48.780 Oh, rip. 1.00

01:59:49.980 Oh, dang. 1.00

01:59:51.260 Damn. 1.00

01:59:51.900 Roasted. 1.00

01:59:52.520 Okay.

01:59:54.440 Andrew, you were making a point about Twitch.

01:59:56.460 Yeah, yeah.

01:59:56.860 I was saying, like, Malik knows.

01:59:58.820 She knows for sure that it's men are overwhelmingly pursuing these women. 0.61

02:00:03.360 I mean...

02:00:03.560 Yes.

02:00:03.880 She's in all these Discord spaces.

02:00:05.880 She talks...

02:00:06.480 She knows.

02:00:07.400 Like, you know this is true.

02:00:08.960 That that's the case, right?

02:00:09.760 I didn't say...

02:00:10.340 I did not say it wasn't.

02:00:11.680 He said that women do not pursue men.

02:00:14.280 Generally speaking.

02:00:15.720 Generally. 0.99

02:00:16.360 Of course there are women who will shoot the shot. 1.00

02:00:19.220 In fact, I would put it...

02:00:20.040 I mean, generally implies that there's a...

02:00:22.200 Way low.

02:00:23.200 Like, that particular instance is way lower.

02:00:26.120 Huh?

02:00:27.120 Generally implies that there's a very...

02:00:29.360 Like, only the outlier women pursue men. 1.00

02:00:31.180 Yeah, it's super low.

02:00:33.040 It's super low.

02:00:33.600 I mean, I don't see that nowadays.

02:00:35.500 Here.

02:00:35.660 Here's an example.

02:00:36.520 Here's an example.

02:00:37.600 If I...

02:00:38.600 Let's say for a hundred nights in a row, I go to a bar and I just sit at the bar alone.

02:00:46.780 There might be a really good chance that I never get approached by a woman a hundred... 1.00

02:00:52.600 For those hundred nights.

02:00:54.120 Hundred nights.

02:00:55.160 Okay.

02:00:56.660 A woman... 1.00

02:00:57.620 Okay.

02:00:57.940 Maybe I should frame it like who's more likely.

02:00:59.820 But a woman goes to a bar, sits alone. 1.00

02:01:02.440 Who do you think is going to...

02:01:05.020 More likely to get approached?

02:01:06.660 I'm going to say that that depends entirely on... 0.96

02:01:09.320 That's the most retarded take I've ever heard. 1.00

02:01:11.540 It doesn't depend on anything. 0.99

02:01:12.980 I get the pass.

02:01:13.660 If you have...

02:01:14.240 Hold on.

02:01:14.840 If you have an attractive guy, if you have an attractive guy, go to a bar, that guy is

02:01:21.720 way more likely to get approached by a woman than... 1.00

02:01:24.640 Than an average woman. 0.96

02:01:26.040 Willie, I would argue even a 10 out of 10 dude is not going to get approached as much

02:01:32.660 as like a averagely attractive woman.

02:01:35.860 Brian, I don't know why we're arguing.

02:01:37.520 We both agreed that men are way more likely to approach women.

02:01:41.140 I'm just saying women also approach men.

02:01:43.300 It's super rare.

02:01:44.920 I'll say maybe 15%.

02:01:46.560 Okay.

02:01:46.820 Going around the table.

02:01:47.680 Have you guys ever approached a man in public?

02:01:50.540 Yes.

02:01:51.420 No.

02:01:52.140 Oh, these are agreeable women. 1.00

02:01:53.920 But like, honestly, nowadays, who's going to be meeting people in person?

02:01:57.540 Everyone meets each other on the internet.

02:01:59.060 Checkmate.

02:01:59.560 Let me ask a different question.

02:02:01.300 I have.

02:02:01.720 Have you been approached more by men than you have approached men?

02:02:06.960 Yes.

02:02:07.260 Throughout your entire life?

02:02:08.400 Yes.

02:02:09.440 Checkmate.

02:02:10.000 No, it's not checkmate because we already agreed on that.

02:02:13.580 Here, Malik, you're going to pretend to be a man and you're going to pick up our good 1.00

02:02:17.920 friend Madison here.

02:02:19.640 Go ahead.

02:02:20.240 You're in a Trader Joe's.

02:02:21.300 Go ahead.

02:02:22.160 In a Trader Joe's.

02:02:23.420 No.

02:02:23.760 This is quick.

02:02:24.740 You got to be quick.

02:02:25.400 You just saw it.

02:02:26.120 This has got to be quick.

02:02:26.960 Go, go, go. 0.92

02:02:28.900 The clown makeup too. 0.95

02:02:30.300 Yeah. 0.93

02:02:30.500 Go, go, go.

02:02:31.040 Hi.

02:02:31.320 Can I ask your name?

02:02:31.960 I really like your dress.

02:02:33.300 Thanks, Madison.

02:02:33.840 Why is he wearing a dress?

02:02:35.260 Nice to meet you, Madison.

02:02:36.440 My name's Malik.

02:02:38.140 Nice to meet you.

02:02:38.740 Are you from the area?

02:02:40.220 Yeah, I go to school here.

02:02:41.860 Oh, that's cool.

02:02:42.300 What are you studying?

02:02:43.620 Business.

02:02:45.220 That's cool.

02:02:45.980 Do you enjoy the program?

02:02:48.340 It's not my favorite.

02:02:49.400 I'm thinking of leaving.

02:02:51.320 Thinking of leaving?

02:02:52.080 Do you know what you would do if you left?

02:02:53.200 No.

02:02:55.100 Do you like to have fun in the area and go out a lot?

02:02:57.660 I don't really like to go out.

02:02:59.380 I don't either.

02:03:00.240 Do you play video games? 0.99

02:03:01.020 What the fuck is going on? 1.00

02:03:01.880 No. 1.00

02:03:03.560 Hey, hold on.

02:03:04.280 Keep going.

02:03:04.660 Keep going.

02:03:05.160 Keep going.

02:03:05.680 Okay, that was not bad.

02:03:06.680 That was good.

02:03:07.180 Keep going.

02:03:07.520 Keep going.

02:03:07.860 Keep going.

02:03:09.140 You're going to close?

02:03:09.620 No, I don't like to play video games.

02:03:10.460 You're going to close?

02:03:11.380 No.

02:03:11.600 What do you like to do for fun, then, if you don't like going out?

02:03:13.340 I just like to sit at home and watch movies.

02:03:17.280 Would you want to watch a movie with me sometime?

02:03:18.760 Wait, so Jojo, you have to put that on for the next five minutes, okay?

02:03:39.540 I'm getting PTSD from Jojo Circus.

02:03:42.700 Jojo Circus is crazy.

02:03:43.860 I'm getting PTSD right now.

02:03:45.200 There you go.

02:03:46.260 I think next time I send somebody to the corner in timeout, they have to wear that hat.

02:03:50.760 Your head's too big.

02:03:52.120 Stop.

02:03:52.560 Don't talk about it.

02:03:52.820 I think you have to adjust.

02:03:53.920 You got to adjust the little thing in the back.

02:03:55.500 Oh, it's not.

02:03:55.960 Wait, continue on with the role play.

02:03:57.860 Go ahead.

02:03:58.100 Wait.

02:03:58.520 She asked if I wanted to watch a movie with her, and I said no.

02:04:01.060 But it's also just hard to make a conversation when you're not actually attracted to the person,

02:04:06.940 because if I really was attracted to you, it would go elsewhere.

02:04:11.040 So if I was a hot guy and we had the same exact conversation, I said the same stuff, how would it have ended up?

02:04:17.460 Probably, yes, but that's what it is.

02:04:19.120 What if she's an average girl, though, and it's not a hot guy.

02:04:22.940 It's also an average guy approaching her.

02:04:25.240 Okay.

02:04:25.700 50-50.

02:04:26.180 She'd probably still say no. 0.90

02:04:28.140 People generally don't approach people that they're not attracted to.

02:04:31.600 The whole point of approaching someone is you're attracted to them. 0.94

02:04:34.060 No, but if you're an average dude, you're going to shoot your shot with average-looking chicks. 1.00

02:04:38.040 Yeah. 0.98

02:04:39.340 Sometimes.

02:04:40.060 Well, yeah.

02:04:40.680 A lot of guys are intimidated by women that are on their level or more attractive, so a lot of guys talk to women below them.

02:04:49.940 And they still get rejected by women who are arguably less attractive than them.

02:04:54.500 Because women get approached significantly more, as we've both agreed on. 0.59

02:04:58.120 So women are often annoyed by getting approached by 10. 1.00

02:05:00.220 Dating on easy mode.

02:05:01.220 Checkmate.

02:05:01.840 I said it is.

02:05:02.880 We didn't disagree.

02:05:04.180 Oh, okay.

02:05:04.600 Cool.

02:05:05.520 Good talk.

02:05:06.560 Good talk.

02:05:07.280 I feel like the guy doesn't even have to be hot, though.

02:05:09.640 Women just feel that validation no matter what and hold that to their name. 1.00

02:05:13.720 Wait, so okay.

02:05:15.600 And then there was life on easy mode.

02:05:17.500 Yes.

02:05:18.120 Okay.

02:05:18.380 Yeah, I mean, so we've had women who come on the show who will just not even meet up with a dude, and dudes will just send them thousands of dollars. 1.00

02:05:26.540 So that I disagree with.

02:05:28.900 It was more of like, I guess, OnlyFans in a sense or exotic dancers. 0.94

02:05:34.080 I think if I may, I think she's asking the difference where you've said OF or being an online whore is easy mode. 1.00

02:05:42.300 Do you consider exotic dancing easy mode? 0.92

02:05:44.280 Because there's a lot of physical strength and a lot more work that goes into that than just posting selfies of yourself naked online.

02:05:50.540 Well, I think it's, I mean, the amount, if you can procure, for example, a sugar daddy from the strip club, and that sugar daddy is in turn paying for your bills and your groceries without any sort of romantic or sexual reciprocation, I would argue that that's life on easy mode.

02:06:07.180 But, I mean, it's harder to scale.

02:06:08.560 Like, when you're on OF, you can scale the amount of money you can make, whereas in a strip club, it's kind of limited a little bit.

02:06:16.300 Maddie, can you read this one really quick? 0.91

02:06:17.840 Only action I get in bars is gay guys shoving their thumb up my feet. 1.00

02:06:21.600 Sometimes that's the highlight of my week. 0.98

02:06:23.040 At least I was hot enough for a guy.

02:06:24.600 Would that make your week, ladies? 1.00

02:06:26.480 Fuck no. 1.00

02:06:27.240 Make my year. 1.00

02:06:28.820 I don't think he's actually shoving the thumb up the...

02:06:31.580 Okay.

02:06:33.140 Thank you, Nickelodeon.

02:06:34.120 Appreciate it.

02:06:34.600 I also think, though, like, back to our other conversation, if it wasn't...

02:06:38.540 Is it easy doing that?

02:06:39.740 Do you think a lot of girls would do that job? 1.00

02:06:43.200 I agree that I think it's easy to obtain, but maybe not maintain.

02:06:48.700 Because, like, I mean, going into, like, that field or that environment, when you say that you kind of alienate yourself from almost everyone else,

02:06:58.000 I feel like a lot of other people wouldn't really agree with your career choice or how you spend your time, because obviously that's your job.

02:07:06.580 So, would it be that?

02:07:09.580 Like, not as in it's easy...

02:07:11.780 Or, I'm sorry, not that it's harder than someone going to school and getting a job, but wouldn't you say that's hard, too?

02:07:17.940 And I kind of want to say something about your point, because, like, you know, being in a city like Vegas, and I do know, I would say, quite a few people that work in especially exotic dancing industry.

02:07:30.360 There's a lot of guys that do come in, like you said, that are kind of that sugar daddy material that'll try to be like, oh, I'll give you such and such amount of money, and I'll take you out of the club, yada, yada, whatever.

02:07:41.160 And I've noticed a lot of those girls don't necessarily have it easy, because a lot of the times they kind of get coied into becoming some sort of sugar baby, whatever. 1.00

02:07:50.720 But it's never enough for what they're looking for, like, to actually get out of the club.

02:07:56.420 So, based off of, like, friends that I know from what they make in the club, there's sugar daddies that'll go in there and say, oh, I'll give you this amount of money, and I'll make these promises, but they're really not keeping up with that.

02:08:06.140 So, the amount of money they're making in the club doesn't...

02:08:08.740 It makes more than what some dude would come in the club and offer.

02:08:12.800 But can I ask you something, since you have friends who've worked in that environment?

02:08:17.560 I know quite a few people who have worked as security in those places, or have managed them, or various people I've talked to from all over the country.

02:08:26.660 And they claim that most of these strip clubs are rife with prostitution, that probably most of the strippers engage in different and various forms of prostitution and get paid extremely handsomely for that.

02:08:39.580 Wouldn't you agree that that's true?

02:08:41.340 It is, to a certain extent.

02:08:43.260 So, in the city and Clark County, and, well, Las Vegas in general, it's actually illegal.

02:08:47.940 Prostitution is illegal.

02:08:49.680 Yeah. 0.67

02:08:50.060 But if you go...

02:08:50.800 That's because it's regulated, right?

02:08:52.500 Yeah.

02:08:53.160 So, but you can go to Nye County, which is only about a 40-minute drive, which is Pahrump, essentially.

02:08:59.440 And it's legal.

02:09:00.360 But they kind of separate those.

02:09:02.620 So, you do have, like, Bunny Ranch, for example, is in Pahrump.

02:09:06.720 That's a brothel. 1.00

02:09:07.740 It's not necessarily exotic dancing.

02:09:09.800 Oh, go ahead.

02:09:10.820 The Earl Optimize donated $100.

02:09:14.460 Women have dating on easy mode. 1.00

02:09:16.800 Let's be real here, though.

02:09:18.660 Women control access to sex, but men control access to relationships and marriage. 0.99

02:09:24.240 Only simps marry 304s. 1.00

02:09:27.420 The rest are cat ladies. 1.00

02:09:28.860 Can I say something?

02:09:31.500 I think that it's easy mode because you have the choice to do that.

02:09:35.360 If you have a man who's, like, doesn't know what to do for money, he can't just go on OnlyFans and make a lot of money.

02:09:40.060 It's a choice that you made that men don't have that choice.

02:09:42.940 That's why it's easy mode.

02:09:44.140 Is it hard?

02:09:44.820 Yeah, but it's your choice.

02:09:46.640 Well, even, I mean, even removing OnlyFans and stripping from the thing, we've had even just normal college girls come on the show and they're like, oh, yeah, I'm getting offers to, like, dudes will just DM them. 1.00

02:09:59.260 Oh, I'm getting offers to be flown out.

02:10:01.360 They're sending feet pics for $300.

02:10:04.620 They can go on seeking and find some sort of arrangement there.

02:10:08.860 So, whereas that, there's no corresponding, like, basically just getting almost free money from women.

02:10:17.020 There's no corresponding thing for men.

02:10:19.420 Like, have any of you, maybe, certainly you didn't accept it, have any of you received offers from men to get money for pictures, even non-noon pictures?

02:10:29.220 Show me your feet. 1.00

02:10:30.300 Do some stupid activity. 1.00

02:10:31.860 Fucking degrade me. 1.00

02:10:33.240 Look, these dudes are, I don't know why these men do it, and if you're watching, the fuck are you guys doing? 1.00

02:10:38.960 What the fuck? 0.99

02:10:39.460 Did you say received money or received offers? 1.00

02:10:41.840 Offers.

02:10:42.120 Offers.

02:10:42.720 I receive offers almost on a daily basis.

02:10:45.540 I've never received money from them.

02:10:46.580 I've never received anything from a woman.

02:10:49.200 And I'm out there in the public for a decade.

02:10:53.160 Even just Twitch donations.

02:10:53.600 No women are like, oh, Brian, can you call me a 304?

02:10:57.620 Send a voice memo.

02:10:58.420 Oh, my God.

02:10:59.460 I'll give you 100 bucks.

02:11:01.140 They ain't doing it.

02:11:02.120 I believe, actually, when Andrew and I first met.

02:11:04.520 I blame men, though.

02:11:05.640 I blame the men for this.

02:11:07.180 One point I debated was that no matter how old you are, no matter how attractive you are,

02:11:14.600 as a woman, you always have the backup plan of finding a man who's going to be able to take care of you and never working a day in your life. 1.00

02:11:21.980 But as a man, you do not have that option, unless in very rare scenarios, you meet a sugar mama who's going to take care of you. 0.97

02:11:28.860 But 99% of the time, any woman can find a man to fully sustain them if they choose not to work. 1.00

02:11:35.980 Question going around the table.

02:11:37.040 Have you received an offer to be, like, a sugar baby or to be paid, just a guy to send you money to, I don't know, not, yeah, let's just do sugar.

02:11:47.640 Come to Dubai.

02:11:48.220 Sugar baby.

02:11:49.020 Have you had, like, a sugar daddy, sugar baby offer?

02:11:51.500 I haven't.

02:11:51.980 I have had the offers, yes.

02:11:53.460 Lots.

02:11:54.120 How many do you think?

02:11:55.500 In, like, just the.

02:11:56.540 Total, your whole life?

02:11:57.540 Oh, my gosh.

02:11:58.420 Over 100?

02:11:59.200 Yeah, probably.

02:12:00.660 Yes.

02:12:01.320 Over, yeah?

02:12:02.260 I mean, in general, yeah.

02:12:03.980 What about you?

02:12:04.720 Yeah.

02:12:05.140 Over 100?

02:12:05.900 Yeah.

02:12:06.800 Over 1,000?

02:12:08.240 Probably, like, two.

02:12:09.780 Two?

02:12:10.160 Okay, that's still, you know.

02:12:11.360 Yeah, like a handful.

02:12:12.340 Handful?

02:12:12.900 Yeah.

02:12:13.040 Same thing, handful.

02:12:13.940 Into the mic if you can.

02:12:14.940 Same thing, handful.

02:12:16.060 Madison?

02:12:16.820 A lot now, but even when I was in, like, high school, like, I would still get offers like that.

02:12:23.580 Yikes.

02:12:25.780 Yeah, I would say that I've had zero, zero offers.

02:12:30.980 And most men, most men ain't getting, uh, not even one their whole life. 0.68

02:12:39.920 And if it is, if it is men offering that, it's usually gay men offering to take care 1.00

02:12:45.100 of men. 0.90

02:12:45.420 It's almost never the woman. 0.81

02:12:47.040 It's still a man offering the money.

02:12:49.060 Yeah, exactly.

02:12:50.540 I will say, though, I feel like it also is dependent on, like, location, like, the situation.

02:12:56.380 Because I, I know a couple of guys who have been approached by older, wealthy women in

02:13:01.140 my area, and they're like, hey, I think you're really, you know, just a cute little stud.

02:13:06.860 Why don't you let me take you out, and we'll figure something out.

02:13:10.200 And it's usually not, never equated to what most.

02:13:13.660 Yeah, sure, but again, this is the exception proving the rule.

02:13:17.720 Yeah.

02:13:17.940 So you're pointing to the exception, and the reason that it's an exception is because there

02:13:23.060 is a rule.

02:13:24.300 Yeah.

02:13:24.540 So the exception proves the rule here.

02:13:26.540 I don't, and I'm not saying it doesn't happen. 1.00

02:13:29.600 Like, I've heard of it happening.

02:13:31.380 I believe you that there's guys, but it's so rare.

02:13:34.880 And I would also argue that the women that are doing that probably aren't going to be nearly 1.00

02:13:42.300 as generous.

02:13:43.260 They almost might even do it begrudgingly.

02:13:46.760 Like, there's probably something back there where it's, like, not at the sort of willing

02:13:52.860 level that men are going to be doing it as.

02:13:56.040 And, like, it's different.

02:13:58.320 It's got to be different somehow.

02:14:00.600 And you may disagree with me, but from what I've seen in the very few instances where I

02:14:04.480 know younger men who have gone to, who are sugar babies to sugar mamas, is usually older 0.89

02:14:10.120 women, MILFs, whatever you want to call them, who have a lot of money, are single, kind of 1.00

02:14:14.280 desperate, so they're like, I'll just offer to pay a hot guy because I'm never going to

02:14:17.460 get that any other way.

02:14:18.620 To a certain extent, I mean, from, like, the people that I know that have been in those

02:14:22.060 scenarios, it's usually some hotter, yeah, hotter divorced MILF, I'll say. 1.00

02:14:27.420 And she's just kind of like the, it's that get back.

02:14:30.220 So, yeah, I will say there's always that, like, hidden agenda in the background, so I do

02:14:33.820 agree with you on that.

02:14:35.040 But it's usually that hotter MILF that's like, you know what?

02:14:38.400 Screw my ex-husband, I'm going to go grab me a stud, and I'm just going to walk around

02:14:41.760 with my little arm candy, and I'll pay his bills for the next however long. 0.81

02:14:45.880 But it usually don't last.

02:14:48.860 It's like a temporary thing in most cases, from what I've seen.

02:14:52.280 Yeah, I've had a couple that have lasted.

02:14:54.440 Like, there was a guy I knew from high school that ended up getting with, as crazy as it

02:14:58.780 sounds, somebody's in our school's mom.

02:15:02.680 But it lasted for a good while from what we all saw.

02:15:06.500 Lasted, past tense.

02:15:09.000 Yes.

02:15:09.440 The only reason it ended was because she, what we had heard was she was just getting

02:15:15.440 put in a rut because of getting laid off because of COVID.

02:15:18.440 So that was, like, why it ended.

02:15:21.080 But let's, we have something that we're going to react to here that's maybe a little bit

02:15:26.960 related to Andrew and your back and forth on our last show.

02:15:31.120 So, Nick, can you pull up the, I think the first thing is the news article.

02:15:36.900 There's two of them.

02:15:38.080 Ooh.

02:15:39.680 All right.

02:15:40.240 So we have Jane Fonda. 0.97

02:15:45.040 You're going to have to move us to the, Jane Fonda claims she's only interested in young 0.99

02:15:49.100 lovers because she doesn't like old skin. 0.99

02:15:51.520 And 85-year-old also revealed she is our, okay, that does, next.

02:15:58.940 And then this is from the New York Post.

02:16:00.780 Why ashamed Jane Fonda, 85, would only date a 20-year-old lover. 0.99

02:16:04.440 Now we have the clip.

02:16:05.840 Nick, if you can pull up the next one.

02:16:09.640 And then full screen.

02:16:11.840 All right.

02:16:13.120 Oh, wait, Nick, there's something up there in the corner.

02:16:15.240 X out of that.

02:16:17.100 Okay.

02:16:17.760 Go ahead.

02:16:18.100 You have to click block sometimes.

02:16:19.860 That's fine.

02:16:21.240 I'm ashamed to say this, but if I were to take a lover, he'd have to be 20.

02:16:25.960 Really?

02:16:26.520 Oh, yeah.

02:16:27.100 No, I didn't, wait, hold on, no, no, no.

02:16:28.240 Now, why specifically?

02:16:28.320 She's ashamed to say it.

02:16:29.720 Start from the beginning of video tap, please.

02:16:32.840 Excuse me.

02:16:33.860 Last.

02:16:36.980 I'm ashamed to say this, but if I were to take a lover, he'd have to be 20.

02:16:41.920 Really?

02:16:42.420 Oh, yeah.

02:16:43.300 Now, why specifically 20?

02:16:44.900 Because I don't like old skin. 1.00

02:16:48.100 I'm right there with you.

02:16:50.940 I'm doing everything I can to keep it fresh, but yeah, old skin. 1.00

02:16:55.460 That's it.

02:16:56.380 So, going around the table on this, she, a 85-year-old woman, she says she's only down to date 20-year-olds.

02:17:04.240 Adult men, right? 0.76

02:17:06.060 Any objections?

02:17:07.140 Do you guys object?

02:17:07.980 Any objections?

02:17:09.240 That's crazy.

02:17:12.980 Object?

02:17:13.640 I think that's weird.

02:17:13.860 Your reaction?

02:17:14.500 Objections?

02:17:14.860 I think that's weird that she seeks that out.

02:17:16.620 She's like, that's the.

02:17:21.220 Go ahead.

02:17:21.760 Yeah, that's the only, like, men that she finds acceptable.

02:17:24.640 Like, she doesn't like old skin. 1.00

02:17:25.880 20 isn't.

02:17:26.680 Like, that's way young.

02:17:28.180 Like, there's a lot of ages you can get.

02:17:30.380 I think it's kind of weird, but in my brain, it doesn't seem as wrong.

02:17:34.560 But then I think about it, and I put her, if it was like a man saying it, I'd be like, way more taken aback.

02:17:41.220 I don't know why.

02:17:41.900 You said it doesn't, it doesn't seem as wrong as what?

02:17:45.180 As like, for example, since she's a woman, she's saying it, and she's saying that she'd only take, like, a 20-year-old because of their youthful skin or whatever.

02:17:54.100 In my brain, I don't know why, in my brain, it's like, okay, you know, work it or whatever.

02:18:00.100 But then I, in my brain, put a man saying that, and it was just like, ew, I don't know why there's that.

02:18:07.600 So it's not as bad as if it was a man saying the same thing?

02:18:11.020 I think it is equally as bad, but in my brain, I don't, I don't know why I don't, like, feel that way.

02:18:16.720 Well, when you intellectualize it, perhaps you can, like, think about it, and then it's as bad.

02:18:22.020 But your initial, like, knee-jerk reaction is not as bad as if it was the reverse.

02:18:28.420 Correct, yeah.

02:18:28.920 Yeah, see, it's you go, girl, right?

02:18:30.940 You go, girl, right?

02:18:32.480 Yeah.

02:18:33.040 What about you?

02:18:33.920 Go ahead.

02:18:34.640 I think that it's totally okay to have preferences.

02:18:37.220 It's not really something that I could see myself being into, but it's legal and it's a preference.

02:18:43.400 Go ahead.

02:18:43.980 Okay, so I want to start by saying, referencing my previous debate with Andrew.

02:18:49.860 According to his logic, there's nothing wrong with that.

02:18:52.500 That's fine.

02:18:53.080 It's legal.

02:18:54.040 Let them be happy.

02:18:54.980 Do whatever makes them happy.

02:18:56.160 But I personally, well, the only reason a 20-year-old would get with an 85-year-old, regardless of who's, which gender is older or not, is for money.

02:19:07.360 Like, get married, they're going to die, get their inheritance, whatever.

02:19:11.280 Maybe. 0.99

02:19:11.460 But I personally think it's weird as fuck if an 85-year-old, woman or man, only wants to date 20-year-olds because of tight skin. 0.98

02:19:22.540 And, I mean, yes, I find that extremely icky. 0.98

02:19:27.160 Morally, I guess there's nothing wrong with it if it's legal, but I do not think in any scenario, any person, what is that, more than four times someone's age should be wanting to have sexual relations with someone?

02:19:40.840 I think your math checks out there.

02:19:43.220 That's good.

02:19:44.200 All right.

02:19:44.800 We'll come back to that.

02:19:45.760 What about you?

02:19:46.500 I kind of agree with Esme of, like, it would definitely be a lot.

02:19:51.860 I feel like I would cringe if it was a guy saying it with a younger girl, but it's definitely, it's still weird.

02:19:57.380 It's a 60-year, like, all for dating up, which, no matter what the gender, but it's definitely a weird gap.

02:20:02.700 If you don't think about it, it's like, yes. 0.57

02:20:04.080 I think, I think it's kind of, like, up to preference, which I'm sure, you know, a few of you have said, but personally, I feel like it's just robbing the cradle, and I think it's kind of gross and icky.

02:20:17.020 Like, it just, it just, it just, it seems, like, just nasty.

02:20:27.020 There's no reason to it, and yeah, it's legal, but it's, what's the point?

02:20:31.120 You're kind of just taking away from somebody's life for your own personal gain, your own personal, you know, lust.

02:20:38.900 So, that's my opinion on that.

02:20:43.220 Okay.

02:20:44.080 What about you?

02:20:45.360 I think that the age difference, like, the age gap is pretty extreme.

02:20:49.800 Do you want me to repeat myself?

02:20:51.340 No, you're good.

02:20:51.920 Go ahead.

02:20:52.040 Yeah, I think that's pretty extreme.

02:20:54.600 That's, like, your grandparents' age when you're 20, if not even my grandparents' age.

02:20:59.560 She below. 0.95

02:21:00.220 Oh, sorry, sorry.

02:21:01.080 Okay.

02:21:01.500 Whoa.

02:21:03.400 Accidental click.

02:21:04.760 What about you?

02:21:05.540 I don't oppose to age gap relationships, so.

02:21:08.420 I mean, I preferably would not myself, but I have no opposition to anyone who prefers to be in an age gap relationship.

02:21:16.240 Can I press you on that a little bit?

02:21:17.720 Sure.

02:21:18.100 So, you're 19 years old.

02:21:19.700 Yes.

02:21:20.060 So, if there were 85-year-old men saying they only want to have sexual relations with people in your age group, how would you view those men? 0.69

02:21:30.660 Would you view them as weird or?

02:21:31.540 Exactly how I viewed this 85-year-old woman only wanting a 20-year-old man?

02:21:35.920 It's just preference.

02:21:36.780 What if a woman is, like, I only want to date a provider? 1.00

02:21:39.200 That's preference.

02:21:40.040 It's a preference.

02:21:41.800 Like I said, I don't think it makes a difference if it's a man or woman.

02:21:44.860 Honestly, past 70, your brain is, like, that of a younger person anyway. 0.97

02:21:50.720 Oh, so it's, like, a full circle kind of, like.

02:21:54.700 No, no, no, no, no.

02:21:55.560 I didn't say it. 0.99

02:21:56.120 It's still weird as fuck to date someone a quarter your age. 0.97

02:21:58.620 Because I think previously you were, I don't know if you were making this argument. 0.98

02:22:01.600 I don't know if you were making this argument, but you were saying something along the lines of, well, the prefrontal cortex is not fully developed until you're 25.

02:22:12.840 But, like, couldn't you then make the argument, well, does it equal out if they have Alzheimer's?

02:22:20.400 Like, if they're dating somebody with Alzheimer's, is it now a little more, like, equal playing field, you know?

02:22:25.960 You know what?

02:22:26.600 You know what?

02:22:27.600 I'm going to say sure.

02:22:29.440 Okay, so it's, like, no-go between, like, 30 to, like, 70.

02:22:35.160 But after 70, there's probably enough mental decline where it's, like, eh, it's probably fair.

02:22:40.960 Honestly, honestly, you're going to call me dumb for this, but I think the 20-year-olds would actually be in the wrong for trying to take advantage of the older people.

02:22:49.340 I was actually about to say, that's a thing. 0.87

02:22:50.180 You'll have these young women who will, like, go after these people who are, like, incompetent, basically. 0.99

02:22:57.020 And they'll actually try to, like, it's actually, I think, a crime.

02:23:00.440 It's, like, elder abuse.

02:23:01.560 Yeah.

02:23:01.780 And they'll try to, like, siphon money, basically.

02:23:04.660 That's so crazy.

02:23:05.200 So I'll say, and I'm just throwing random numbers out, okay?

02:23:08.360 But I'll say between 40 and 69, if you're looking for younger women, you're a bit weird. 0.99

02:23:14.340 But if you're 70 plus and you're hooking up with younger women, like, you're senile.

02:23:19.360 The younger women or younger men are the ones in the wrong because they're taking advantage of older women. 0.79

02:23:23.800 Can I make a point?

02:23:24.320 They could be.

02:23:24.800 Of course.

02:23:25.300 Just go ahead.

02:23:25.960 Thank you.

02:23:27.000 Your point is also really silly to be, like, oh, the prefrontal cortex isn't developed until 25.

02:23:32.000 It also starts going back at 40.

02:23:34.680 So they're equal.

02:23:35.560 They're equal.

02:23:37.380 I use that in addition to life experience.

02:23:39.820 I said that I think maybe the minimum age of consent should be raised after certain age gaps.

02:23:47.280 Like, I don't think someone fresh out of high school who's 18 who has no life experience whatsoever,

02:23:51.100 whose brain is not fully developed should be in a relationship with 40, 50-year-olds.

02:23:57.320 Wait.

02:23:57.740 So let me ask a question, if you don't mind.

02:24:00.580 For all the women on the panel, if you don't mind raising your hands for this question,

02:24:04.580 how many of you can say with confidence that this scenario gives you the ick?

02:24:10.740 Just raise your hands if it gives you the ick.

02:24:14.020 Okay.

02:24:14.400 We got basically everybody.

02:24:16.520 It doesn't give you the ick?

02:24:18.300 I mean, that's your whole thing.

02:24:20.660 Yeah, I thought that was the way.

02:24:21.900 It does, but it's not that bad.

02:24:23.980 It's, it's, it would be so much worse if she was.

02:24:25.840 No, no, no.

02:24:26.000 With Hanoi Jane here and a 20-year-old, does it give you the, does it give you the ick? 0.99

02:24:31.540 I'll say sure.

02:24:32.540 That was all of you raised your hands, basically, right?

02:24:35.020 Okay.

02:24:35.180 I didn't raise my hands.

02:24:35.760 All of you raised your hands.

02:24:36.700 No, I mean, also, we have to look at, like.

02:24:39.060 Okay, not you.

02:24:39.460 I'll take the hat, by the way.

02:24:40.360 Does it give you the ick?

02:24:41.620 We also have to look at what the situation was.

02:24:43.560 It wasn't about dating.

02:24:44.660 It was about lovers, so.

02:24:45.860 Hang on, hang on.

02:24:46.300 And I've got a second question, right, for all of you who did raise your hands, right?

02:24:50.400 Even though it gives you the ick, do any of you have a moral objection to it?

02:24:54.980 Raise your hand if you have that.

02:24:57.180 My, my ick was not about the age gap.

02:25:00.160 Wait, you have a moral objection to it?

02:25:02.920 No.

02:25:03.280 No, no, no, not you.

02:25:04.260 I'm sorry.

02:25:05.180 Gal in the black shirt.

02:25:06.280 Do you have a moral objection?

02:25:07.620 I do.

02:25:08.140 I just feel like it's, it's, like, because in this, in this scenario, it's not about dating.

02:25:14.120 It's about, like, it's about lust.

02:25:16.780 It's about sex. 0.97

02:25:18.100 Okay.

02:25:18.300 So it's not, I, I just feel like, in that sense, you're, like I said, you're robbing

02:25:24.880 the cradle.

02:25:25.500 You're, you're, yeah, it's preference.

02:25:27.020 Yeah, how do you know it's about lust, though, if they get married and they fall in love?

02:25:30.460 But she's not talking about marriage.

02:25:31.580 She's talking about a lover.

02:25:32.680 Yeah.

02:25:33.020 Yeah, well, I mean, in that case, I'll concede that moral argument, right?

02:25:36.560 Yeah.

02:25:36.700 If you just get a lover, but, but I would concede that regardless of the age.

02:25:41.200 And, and I'll agree with you in the sense of, in the sense of, in the sense of just age

02:25:45.760 itself, do you have any moral argument against it at all?

02:25:48.400 In that sense, no.

02:25:49.200 Well, my sister's dated, or she's 32 and she's married to a 69 year old.

02:25:54.300 So.

02:25:54.560 Oh.

02:25:55.420 Yeah.

02:25:55.960 So, but, but see.

02:25:57.260 So no moral objection.

02:25:57.820 Yeah, so in that case, I, I have no moral objection to that because they're married

02:26:01.240 and they have a baby together and they're, they're happy and they're in love.

02:26:03.900 But in the sense of it's coming for just sex, just lust, I do have moral objection to that.

02:26:10.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do too.

02:26:11.740 I saw, I'll concede to that point.

02:26:13.560 Any of you, any of the rest of you who raised your hands, do you have a single moral objection

02:26:17.900 to this?

02:26:18.560 Okay.

02:26:18.680 An actual moral objection?

02:26:20.480 I don't know if this is moral and I'm not saying her specifically, but like I said,

02:26:26.560 the only case where I would see a wrong is if the person is senile and cannot capably

02:26:32.520 make mental decisions for themselves and younger people are taking advantage, especially knowing 0.98

02:26:36.600 they have money.

02:26:37.960 Yeah, but that makes no sense because.

02:26:39.780 Okay.

02:26:40.120 20 year old dating.

02:26:41.760 There's a don't know.

02:26:43.160 Donated $100.

02:26:45.200 My wife is 11 years younger than I am.

02:26:48.280 We started dating when she was 23.

02:26:50.500 I strongly urge young men don't marry until 30 plus and established and to date in the 0.97

02:26:56.420 mid-late 20s range for success and happy life.

02:26:59.540 Good for you, Grin. 1.00

02:27:00.360 I agree with that.

02:27:00.920 Anyway, back to that, Malik, it would be the same regardless of the age gap in that situation.

02:27:06.700 Anybody dating anybody else who was senile you would have a moral objection with, right?

02:27:10.600 Andrew. 0.99

02:27:10.960 I do not give a fuck how old someone is if they're having sex. 1.00

02:27:14.600 I'm against casual sex and hookup culture in general, so I don't give a fuck how old they 0.99

02:27:19.200 are as long as they're legal age. 0.98

02:27:20.920 Our argument last time, which we're piggybacking off of, was the fact that older men specifically

02:27:27.060 only want to marry and be in relationships with women fresh out of high school. 0.70

02:27:31.540 But we don't need to get into that again.

02:27:34.020 What was that?

02:27:34.260 Did you ever figure out a moral argument for that or no?

02:27:37.400 Are we still not there?

02:27:38.620 We can move on from that.

02:27:39.940 We can move on from that.

02:27:40.760 Okay.

02:27:41.300 Okay.

02:27:41.800 Fair enough.

02:27:42.180 No, I did, but I don't want to, I know last time we argued about that for almost two

02:27:47.340 hours, so I don't want to reopen that.

02:27:48.660 All right.

02:27:48.980 All right.

02:27:49.460 Fair enough.

02:27:50.980 Wait, do you have that same position in this scenario?

02:27:54.280 Like the older woman? 1.00

02:27:54.860 No, because this is about casual sex.

02:27:56.980 I said, if anything, the 85-year-old's the victim.

02:27:59.640 Okay.

02:28:00.460 Okay.

02:28:00.840 But I think this is it.

02:28:02.800 I don't think it matters.

02:28:03.640 Sorry, I thought you said this one was less icky for some reason. 0.92

02:28:06.600 It is, because they're senile. 0.86

02:28:07.980 I know. 0.99

02:28:08.880 And they're just looking for sex because they're about to die within the next, I don't know 0.99

02:28:11.880 how many years, and that's really fucked up to say, but it's true. 0.99

02:28:14.500 Wait, the lady in the video? 0.88

02:28:16.000 They're living, not her specifically, but 85-year-olds are living out the last years 0.95

02:28:20.200 in their life.

02:28:20.880 If their last wishes before they die are to hook up with younger people, let them live 1.00

02:28:25.960 their life.

02:28:26.600 And what if the 40-year-old doesn't know when he's going to die and he wants to have 0.98

02:28:29.620 sex with a 20-year-old? 0.99

02:28:30.560 Then he can do it. 0.99

02:28:31.400 Okay, so?

02:28:32.520 I just said, I don't think 40-year-olds should obsess for specifically women fresh out of

02:28:37.520 high school.

02:28:38.340 That was my argument last time.

02:28:39.860 Come on, Alec.

02:28:40.400 You wouldn't give the poor guy a single Hail Mary, you know, or like, it's the end of

02:28:44.980 his life.

02:28:46.000 It's what he wants more than anything else.

02:28:47.860 You wouldn't just cut him a little bit of slack. 1.00

02:28:48.880 Look, there's plenty of whores who would. 1.00

02:28:50.140 I'm not one of them, though. 1.00

02:28:51.920 No?

02:28:52.340 You wouldn't give him any slack at all? 1.00

02:28:53.980 Fuck no. 1.00

02:28:55.140 No? 1.00

02:28:55.460 I would date up to 10 years older than me, but I'm also almost 25.

02:29:01.360 Like, I'm not a child fresh out of high school.

02:29:05.480 No, I get it.

02:29:06.660 I mean, I agree with you broadly.

02:29:09.800 We agree on it a lot, Andrew.

02:29:10.900 You just like arguing with me. 0.99

02:29:11.560 You know, promiscuous sex is bad. 0.98

02:29:13.320 I'm just saying, you know, at 85 years old, if a dude who has tons of cash is like, oh, 0.84

02:29:18.740 I want to do...

02:29:19.580 You can at least understand it, right?

02:29:21.800 If Hanoi Jane can say it. 0.83

02:29:23.420 I'll hand him off to someone I know.

02:29:26.660 I'll meet someone.

02:29:27.800 I'll wingman for him, okay? 0.97

02:29:29.140 If an 85-year-old man's dying wish is to have sex with a younger woman, I will wingman for 1.00

02:29:34.660 him, but that will never be me.

02:29:38.020 Well, no, I didn't say you had to do it. 0.91

02:29:41.300 What the hell, Malik?

02:29:42.540 I didn't say you specifically had to do it. 0.90

02:29:44.360 You said would you not give him...

02:29:45.380 You could at least understand why the guy might want to at 85, right?

02:29:48.720 Yes, I did.

02:29:49.680 I just brought up that point.

02:29:51.280 You're just rephrasing my point and trying to use it against me.

02:29:55.020 Yeah, so concede it, since it's your point.

02:29:56.960 Okay, sure, sure.

02:30:01.000 I want to know what everyone's age range is.

02:30:03.180 Like, how far they would date up.

02:30:04.640 That's a good question.

02:30:06.680 We'll start with you.

02:30:07.620 It just depends on what, like...

02:30:14.420 Everyone's going to hate this answer.

02:30:16.700 Just give a straight answer.

02:30:17.920 What's in the person?

02:30:18.960 It depends on what's in here.

02:30:21.020 What's the youngest?

02:30:21.740 What's the oldest?

02:30:22.480 What's on the heart?

02:30:23.300 I guess the oldest would probably be, like, the 40s.

02:30:27.880 Wow.

02:30:28.860 But what about what's in their heart?

02:30:31.520 20-ish years older than you?

02:30:33.140 Yeah.

02:30:33.800 15 to 20.

02:30:34.740 Would you date younger?

02:30:36.440 Yeah.

02:30:37.680 How much younger?

02:30:39.340 Like, 21, probably the youngest.

02:30:42.400 Would you date someone your mom's age?

02:30:44.320 See, that's why I said, like, 40s range.

02:30:46.120 So they have to be younger than your mom and they're good?

02:30:48.620 I think...

02:30:49.860 I think anyone of that age would freak my parents out if they were around their age,

02:30:56.420 like, if I dated them, so...

02:30:58.240 Okay.

02:31:00.000 I'd say seven years.

02:31:01.300 Seven years up and down?

02:31:02.720 Up.

02:31:03.100 No, not down.

02:31:03.940 I don't think I would be willing to date somebody younger than me.

02:31:08.580 I'd be, like, 22 to 42, whatever.

02:31:13.280 You wouldn't date down?

02:31:14.660 No, I'm 27, so 22 would be younger.

02:31:16.540 Oh, okay, okay.

02:31:16.960 They just got to be able to, like, be a legal drinking age.

02:31:20.040 Yeah.

02:31:20.580 Wouldn't be fun.

02:31:21.280 Yeah.

02:31:21.480 So I was born in 99, so my age range is the 90s, so minimum one year younger and maximum,

02:31:29.140 like, 9, 10 years older.

02:31:30.300 I guess the most I'd push it is maybe, like, 12, 13 years, but I don't want to date someone

02:31:35.640 who's in their mid-30s or later.

02:31:37.340 So, like, 32, 33 would be the most.

02:31:39.220 I'd say, like, within, I wouldn't date younger than me, but probably, like, up to 10 years

02:31:45.880 older than me.

02:31:47.360 Yeah, I'd say about 27 to 30 range, and then I don't date younger than me, just because I

02:31:54.780 feel like it's too close to 18 makes me feel creepy.

02:31:57.700 So I'm, like, 21 and up for sure, and then my cutoff is, like, I'd say 30.

02:32:04.660 I think my max would probably be older, like, 8 years older, and as far as younger, maybe,

02:32:11.680 like, max 3 years younger than I.

02:32:16.200 I don't think I would date younger.

02:32:18.500 I think I like older men, because they're just a little more mature.

02:32:22.140 I mean, yeah, but just, like, like, even if I was older, I don't think I would date younger

02:32:28.680 either.

02:32:29.200 Yeah.

02:32:30.120 It's just because women mature and are ready to sell down at a much younger age than men, 1.00

02:32:34.640 especially with, like, fertility and stuff.

02:32:36.640 Women want to, by nature, be having children between, like, 18 and 28, and men don't usually 1.00

02:32:44.320 want to sell down until they're in their 30s and have an established career.

02:32:47.920 Wait, what?

02:32:49.480 We're talking about, like...

02:32:50.320 We're talking about age gaps.

02:32:51.500 Men generally prefer to settle down when they're older, past 25, when, by nature, ideally,

02:32:59.120 women are most fertile when they're younger than 25, or around that age. 1.00

02:33:05.140 I do want to say, like, so, just on the age gap thing, before you criticize older men for

02:33:10.040 liking younger women, remember that younger women like older men.

02:33:16.160 I didn't criticize it.

02:33:17.540 True.

02:33:17.680 And also, what ends up, you got, like, okay, so, a 23-year-old man, let's say you can't

02:33:21.860 get a 23-year-old woman, but when he turns 33, maybe he can.

02:33:28.200 So, is it the...

02:33:29.080 Could it also be the case that women start this cycle by rejecting men their own age when 0.55

02:33:33.680 they're in their 20s?

02:33:35.140 Oh, 100%.

02:33:36.060 All of us just said.

02:33:37.500 Almost the whole entire panel stated, you keep agreeing with me and then saying checkmate.

02:33:43.920 It's not checkmate if we agreed from the beginning.

02:33:47.120 Well, okay, how about this?

02:33:48.600 Is it weird?

02:33:50.240 Does it give you the ick if a... 0.99

02:33:52.280 I hate that fucking word, but go ahead. 0.99

02:33:53.740 Okay, so I'm 34. 1.00

02:33:55.060 Would it give you...

02:33:55.740 Let's make this personal.

02:33:58.400 I'm 34.

02:33:59.320 Would it give you the ick if I was dating a 19-year-old?

02:34:01.600 I would...

02:34:05.860 I think that's a yes, but...

02:34:06.960 I would only...

02:34:07.920 No, I would say no, but if you specifically were going into environments that you knew

02:34:14.180 only 18 to 20-year-olds were and specifically looking for someone of that age range, I would

02:34:19.640 find that to be predatory.

02:34:20.760 Let's say she reached out to me.

02:34:22.220 I think that's fine.

02:34:22.920 She contacted me.

02:34:23.180 And I said this last time to you, I think it's fine if people naturally meet, if they're

02:34:27.240 both of consensual age and they naturally meet, that's fine, but older men who specifically

02:34:31.580 target, which is a small percentage, but older men who specifically target and prey on

02:34:37.320 younger women, I think that's fine. 1.00

02:34:39.400 Yeah, I don't know about this whole predatory thing.

02:34:40.980 Yeah, it's about the prey thing.

02:34:42.480 It's pretty loaded, Malik.

02:34:43.640 It's very loaded.

02:34:44.780 It is loaded.

02:34:45.580 It's very loaded.

02:34:46.420 In the same way that you say, well, these high school teenagers...

02:34:50.160 I had a woman tell me that a guy with arthritis was a predator because he had arthritis on this

02:34:55.060 very show.

02:34:55.380 I'm not kidding.

02:34:56.160 She really said that, Malik. 0.65

02:34:57.820 What's a predator here?

02:34:58.940 A predator is someone who preys on the more innocent, the more naive, the more unintelligent,

02:35:07.320 whatever.

02:35:07.580 Well, does it mean to prey?

02:35:09.640 So if he just runs in...

02:35:11.300 You can pull up the definition.

02:35:11.880 Pull up the definition of prey if you don't know, Brian.

02:35:14.600 No, it's all right.

02:35:15.020 Hang on.

02:35:15.980 If he just runs in to a woman who is more naive and less intelligent and this and that, 1.00

02:35:20.920 and they hit it off and they get married, you don't give a shit. 1.00

02:35:23.460 Let them live happily ever ever. 0.99

02:35:24.640 Right?

02:35:24.740 Yes. 0.99

02:35:25.120 I don't give a shit. 1.00

02:35:26.720 Yeah. 0.99

02:35:27.080 Okay.

02:35:27.400 So then what would make it predatory exactly?

02:35:30.560 It doesn't...

02:35:31.200 It's not predatory at all.

02:35:32.400 It's if they naturally meet.

02:35:34.120 But if someone is going into environments...

02:35:36.340 I personally have known people who back when I was in college...

02:35:39.140 Hang on.

02:35:39.400 Hang on.

02:35:39.660 Hang on.

02:35:39.960 Hang on.

02:35:40.160 Hang on.

02:35:40.440 Let's back up.

02:35:41.840 It's not predatory for any of the values that you consider that this guy is looking

02:35:45.960 for, which makes him a predator, to not be predatory as long as he finds them randomly.

02:35:52.760 No.

02:35:53.520 Are you serious, Malik?

02:35:55.480 Andrew, we both don't differ that much on opinion.

02:35:59.600 You're trying to word this in a way, deliberately.

02:36:02.540 Well, yes, because you're deliberately using the word predatory.

02:36:05.200 Yes.

02:36:05.560 You've got a problem with the word predatory here.

02:36:07.440 Let me give you...

02:36:08.100 You love examples.

02:36:08.420 I really need this fleshed out.

02:36:09.860 Andrew, you love examples.

02:36:10.940 Let me give you an example.

02:36:11.880 There is someone who is in your age range, okay, not targeting you specifically, but

02:36:17.260 one of your friends, right, and he is interested in finding a long-term partner, and when he

02:36:24.040 goes on dating apps, he sets his age range to maximum 20 years old on a dating app, or

02:36:29.940 he goes to college parties or environments where there's only younger girls.

02:36:33.900 Would you not find that behavior odd?

02:36:38.020 Predatory, though?

02:36:39.100 Yes, I find that predatory as well.

02:36:40.860 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:36:41.440 Yeah, so can we get back to the idea of predatory?

02:36:44.160 Even if I found it odd, what would make it predatory?

02:36:48.320 My laptop stopped working, sorry.

02:36:48.920 I want to know what makes it predatory now.

02:36:51.120 Check me, man.

02:36:51.540 That's my problem.

02:36:52.420 Check me.

02:36:54.500 Why don't you want to pull up the definition of predatory or prey?

02:36:57.880 I mean, I can.

02:36:59.000 I don't think it's going to help you much.

02:37:00.580 I think you're just hung up on the actual word.

02:37:01.760 Do you want to just pull it up?

02:37:02.860 Because I don't think...

02:37:03.760 Well, at least the context...

02:37:04.380 I think it's interesting to me.

02:37:05.680 I think she's trying to use a loaded word in order to make people like that out to be...

02:37:09.440 I'm using the word correctly. 0.52

02:37:11.300 It seems that you both may not know the definition.

02:37:13.560 Would you consider men, right? 0.96

02:37:16.720 Sickos who prowl the streets at night looking for women to S.A.? 0.99

02:37:22.640 They would be predatory, wouldn't they? 1.00

02:37:25.660 Yes.

02:37:26.840 Yes.

02:37:27.280 Okay.

02:37:27.600 So that's why I have a problem with you using that word for this because I think you're

02:37:31.660 trying to equate what we think of when we think of the word predatory as dangerous human

02:37:36.660 being who's a predator who's doing horrible things to this guy who you can't actually make

02:37:42.460 an argument for why they're doing something wrong.

02:37:44.360 I'm not calling them...

02:37:45.360 So you use the word predator in order to make them look bad or give a moral implication.

02:37:50.620 That's why I have a problem with them.

02:37:51.140 I'm not calling them future sex offenders.

02:37:55.960 That's kidding.

02:37:57.780 Brian, please pull up the definition of prey.

02:38:00.740 You used the word though, so shouldn't you know what the definition of...

02:38:02.860 I know the definition and I know I'm using the word correctly. 0.82

02:38:05.480 I will pull it up.

02:38:07.920 Why don't you tell us what the definition is first and we'll counter check it to what

02:38:12.120 I pull up.

02:38:13.240 So tell us what the definition...

02:38:14.060 If I tell you the definition, then I want you to also tell me the definition before we

02:38:17.100 fact check.

02:38:18.060 I didn't use the word.

02:38:20.040 But you are telling me I'm using the word incorrectly when I know I'm using it correctly.

02:38:23.180 Did I say that?

02:38:23.960 Okay.

02:38:25.120 Relating to or denodating an animal or animals preying naturally on others.

02:38:30.260 First, two, seeking to exploit or oppress others.

02:38:33.700 I think that number two would be the thing that you would be going for.

02:38:36.420 Seeking to exploit or oppress, right?

02:38:39.200 Yes.

02:38:40.200 Okay, great.

02:38:41.760 So why would it be oppressive or exploitative to do this between these two people who agree

02:38:50.280 to do this who are adults?

02:38:52.040 Okay.

02:38:53.000 Yeah, why?

02:38:53.940 So you are exploiting the fact that they have no knowledge of the real world and you can

02:38:59.780 easily take advantage of someone who is a lot younger and more naive than yourself.

02:39:05.220 If that is your only age range, you should reflect on yourself.

02:39:09.640 Why don't you want women who are in their 20s... 1.00

02:39:11.360 Hang on, hang on.

02:39:11.860 Just the argument.

02:39:12.640 Just the argument.

02:39:14.460 Why is it oppressive or exploitative?

02:39:17.600 It is...

02:39:18.160 I just explained it.

02:39:19.440 You can keep playing the song and I know...

02:39:21.780 I want you to ramble.

02:39:22.520 I just want the simple, concise argument from you, Malik.

02:39:24.920 Why is it exploitative or oppressive?

02:39:27.140 Cue the music.

02:39:28.260 The cue the music.

02:39:30.900 I'm sorry you didn't hear the first time I answered, but it is exploitive to specifically

02:39:36.560 target as a dating preference woman who you know may be way more naive and have way more... 1.00

02:39:45.120 Way less life experience than you.

02:39:47.560 Wait, so maybe...

02:39:49.120 Yes, there's exceptions.

02:39:49.540 If you're using the word may be, that means that they also may not be getting...

02:39:54.320 Hang on.

02:39:54.900 That also means that they may not be getting exploited, right?

02:39:58.060 Yeah, but there's a high probability that...

02:40:00.120 Oh, there's a high probability that they could get taken advantage of by an older man.

02:40:04.400 Now, why would a younger woman want to date an older man, Malik? 0.98

02:40:08.320 To exploit their money, usually.

02:40:10.720 Yeah, it does.

02:40:11.060 I said it's wrong both ways.

02:40:12.520 I said it's wrong both ways.

02:40:13.160 They're being hyperpredatory towards these older men, Malik? 0.99

02:40:14.840 What a bunch of sick women these legal women are. 1.00

02:40:17.060 I agree. 1.00

02:40:17.080 I agree.

02:40:17.680 These older men.

02:40:18.460 I agree.

02:40:19.440 Hyperpredatory, aren't they?

02:40:21.320 Like I said, Andrew, we could argue about this for two hours.

02:40:23.960 Maybe we can come back to it.

02:40:25.180 I do want Malik, please read this one.

02:40:28.040 Finally, a girl that doesn't wear makeup to the podcast. 1.00

02:40:32.060 Fourth girl from the right.

02:40:33.340 I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.

02:40:38.720 He's hot.

02:40:39.920 He's rich.

02:40:40.820 He's morally straight.

02:40:42.220 He's perfect.

02:40:43.680 He invites you over.

02:40:45.400 Next to his bed is biometric safe.

02:40:48.080 Inside, an armor light, AR-15, rifle with a fully loaded .30 RD magazine.

02:40:54.700 Your reaction?

02:40:56.240 You, go ahead.

02:40:58.120 Sure, that's fine.

02:40:59.820 You date a guy who owned a fire, AR-15?

02:41:04.240 If there's a good reason for it, yeah, sure.

02:41:06.260 Self-defense?

02:41:07.940 That is a wild gun for a self-defense to own.

02:41:11.000 Wait, why is that?

02:41:11.700 Why?

02:41:12.240 Yeah.

02:41:12.740 Why is that?

02:41:13.120 Why would that be a wild gun for self-defense?

02:41:15.460 It's, well, I mean, it seems a little extreme compared to like a. . .

02:41:20.160 I want to extremely defend myself if I have to.

02:41:22.480 Well, no, for like, just like, you could just get a. . .

02:41:25.380 If I'm going to defend myself with a gun, the purpose of it. . .

02:41:29.120 Hang on, if I'm going to defend myself with a gun, the purpose of it is to terminate the other person.

02:41:32.800 Correct?

02:41:33.680 That's what I'm defending myself for. 0.98

02:41:35.820 Why would I give a shit if I had too much of an advantage? 0.98

02:41:39.400 Why would I care about that? 0.98

02:41:41.200 Don't I want maximum advantage?

02:41:43.260 I think there's a potential for more, like, more harm on yourself or the people around you.

02:41:55.980 What?

02:41:56.340 Why would there be more harm for the people around me?

02:41:59.660 Because, can I ask?

02:42:01.360 AR-15 is like, have you ever shot a gun in your life?

02:42:03.760 No.

02:42:04.220 Okay, I thought so.

02:42:04.900 Well, an AR-15 is an assault rifle.

02:42:09.940 That's a. . .

02:42:10.680 No, it's not an assault rifle.

02:42:12.800 It's an AR. . .

02:42:13.280 AR stands for arm of light.

02:42:14.980 Does not stand for assault light.

02:42:15.420 Okay, I don't know anything about guns.

02:42:17.240 Not only that, but just so you understand, most gun crime in the United States.

02:42:21.620 AR.

02:42:21.820 It's been perpetrated by people who use handguns.

02:42:24.320 Almost nobody is ever killed with a rifle inside of the U.S.

02:42:27.660 More people are killed with hands and feet than they are with rifles, including the AR-15, just so you know.

02:42:34.320 Okay.

02:42:34.440 It seems like if you were going to use a gun, that might be the safest one to use for self-defense.

02:42:39.820 Wait, so would you be more in favor of someone defending their home or defending themselves with a handgun, a pistol versus an AR-15?

02:42:50.240 Yeah.

02:42:52.460 So, let me ask you a question.

02:42:54.380 Are you against semi-automatic weapons?

02:42:57.740 Yeah.

02:42:58.300 So, you're against pistols and handguns, then?

02:43:01.520 Because a pistol and handguns.

02:43:03.300 It was a bit of a trick question, but pistols and handguns are semi-automatic weapons.

02:43:10.600 What are we defending?

02:43:11.800 Against a murderer?

02:43:12.300 Let's be maximum charitable.

02:43:13.340 Maximum charitable to you.

02:43:14.820 I hope so.

02:43:15.760 I don't know anything.

02:43:16.180 It's those guns where every time they go bang, right?

02:43:19.440 Anti-gun people are so clueless.

02:43:21.840 Most states do not even allow the use of 5.55 road for hunting deer.

02:43:27.820 That's true.

02:43:28.360 It's too small.

02:43:29.260 It's too small of a round.

02:43:30.620 But, yeah, when it comes to, you're just talking about those guns where you pull the trigger and it goes bang, right?

02:43:37.160 Every single time.

02:43:38.160 Bang, bang, bang. 0.89

02:43:39.400 Sure.

02:43:39.860 Those are the ones you're talking about?

02:43:40.940 Yeah.

02:43:41.220 So, I mean, that would be a revolver also, just so you know.

02:43:43.500 I think with all due respect, you just have no gun knowledge and that just sounds scary and that's what based your reaction.

02:43:49.860 Would you say that's correct?

02:43:50.940 And I'm not trying to insult you.

02:43:52.260 My knowledge of an AR-15 is from, like, video games.

02:43:55.500 That's what I thought.

02:43:56.280 In general.

02:43:57.420 Wait, but AR-15s, Andrew, they're also semi-automatic weapons, right?

02:44:01.000 You pull the trigger once, one bullet comes out.

02:44:03.260 Well, I mean, yes, generally speaking, that's true, though you can get an automatic version of them if you have the right licensing.

02:44:10.680 Right.

02:44:10.800 But, yes, they are self-loading firearms, gas-operated self-loaders.

02:44:15.500 So, self-loading is semi-automatic.

02:44:17.780 That's what that means.

02:44:18.960 But in this particular case, yes, the AR-15, about the safest gun in the world you can own, almost nobody's ever killed with them, ever.

02:44:27.280 So, I mean, more people, again, are killed, but with hands and feet than they are with an AR-15.

02:44:33.920 And handguns, which are much easier to sneak into public than a giant AR.

02:44:36.980 Yeah, handguns are where almost all the crime is, and it's only specifically with demographics which exist in major metropolitan areas. 0.87

02:44:45.800 Usually they're in lower-income areas.

02:44:49.320 So that's almost all the gun crime in the United States.

02:44:51.900 Very little of it's actually perpetrated by legal gun owners, to be honest with you.

02:44:56.620 Going around the table on this, do you remember the prompt?

02:45:01.860 Yeah, if I saw an AR, what would I say?

02:45:05.100 I'd probably ask when we can go to the range.

02:45:07.520 Yeah.

02:45:08.480 I would hope whoever I'm dating would have a gun, really.

02:45:11.640 Yeah, I would also ask to go to the range.

02:45:14.480 Yeah, they're safe.

02:45:16.200 I've grown up around them, so yeah.

02:45:18.740 I wouldn't have a problem with it.

02:45:21.020 Me neither.

02:45:22.080 I like to feel protected.

02:45:23.080 This poor girl, this poor girl, the first one, the first one.

02:45:29.180 It's going to be a long time.

02:45:30.180 All right, let me go.

02:45:31.940 It's over.

02:45:33.020 It's over.

02:45:33.440 I've never shot a gun, and guns make me uncomfortable because I'm just not around them.

02:45:37.300 I'll take you, bae. 0.71

02:45:38.060 We could go to the range.

02:45:39.320 Yeah, Maddie, can you read this one?

02:45:40.580 Mate, been dating a long time coming, been a fan since last March.

02:45:45.900 Mind you, I am five foot tall and have given up on dating because of the woman on your show. 1.00

02:45:52.120 Girls' birthed laughter at the thought of men my height even existed for me. 0.99

02:45:54.520 Truth Bomb donated $100.

02:45:57.120 The R-15 is the civilian version of the M-16, which is an automatic weapon.

02:46:02.180 They both shoot the same round.

02:46:04.900 Repeal the NFA.

02:46:06.940 Yeah, so Truth Bomb's awesome.

02:46:08.780 He's right.

02:46:09.360 They should repeal the NFA. 0.99

02:46:10.680 It's bullshit, but he's absolutely correct. 0.96

02:46:13.440 The AR-15, even though there is still military versions of it, it's basically just a civilian model of an M-16 A-1, which was developed by Eugene Stoner. 0.97

02:46:23.220 But anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:46:24.280 He's right.

02:46:25.220 Totally right about that.

02:46:26.340 Thank you, Truth Bomb.

02:46:27.520 So continue on with this one.

02:46:29.480 Girls burst into laughter at the thought of men my height even existing.

02:46:34.620 Brutal, 31 years old, zero chance in life.

02:46:37.120 I disagree.

02:46:37.540 He's five feet tall?

02:46:40.040 I disagree.

02:46:41.300 You disagree?

02:46:41.860 I will say that the large majority of women is looking to date a man who's tall or taller than them at least.

02:46:49.820 But I think being five feet is not a deal breaker.

02:46:54.140 Like, even for me personally, I ideally look for men who are my height or taller.

02:46:59.080 If we're talking about completely materialistic stuff, but if I found a man who checked off all my boxes and who would be a good father and take care of me, I don't care about height.

02:47:08.880 And I think there are not a lot of women who would agree with me, but there are women who agree. 1.00

02:47:15.660 The thing is, though, you have to account for there's a certain percentage of women who will say they don't care about height. 1.00

02:47:23.800 But even if, like, there's something in your subconscious that you're still going to be less, like, knee-jerk attracted to a guy who's shorter than you.

02:47:35.180 And it's funny because the three of us, Kirby, Malia, and I, actually had this conversation in the car.

02:47:41.000 And it's not that height matters.

02:47:44.180 It's a lot of times shorter guys are just very insecure and not confident, and they just carry themselves in a very just put-offish way.

02:47:53.740 If shorter men had more confidence, I think women would be more attracted to shorter men.

02:47:58.640 Well, this is kind of a what came first, the chicken or the egg.

02:48:02.480 Like, well, what if there was just swaths of women that didn't want to date them because they were shorter, so that helped in their development of being insecure about their height? 0.50

02:48:14.900 And I agree.

02:48:15.520 It's because of society that they feel insecure.

02:48:18.220 But just because society puts you into a box doesn't mean you have to hate yourself and be unhappy with your life.

02:48:24.000 If you're short, you just need to accept that and just you can be successful in the business world.

02:48:31.000 You can work on the gym.

02:48:32.320 There are things you can change about yourself, but you're never going to be able to change your height.

02:48:35.600 So you need to just accept it and be confident about it.

02:48:38.320 I mean, I certainly agree with you that you ought to accept your circumstances and try to make the best of it as you can.

02:48:45.480 But practically speaking, I would tend to agree with him that, you know, a guy who is five foot tall is going to face certain specific struggles when it comes to dating related to his height.

02:48:58.660 But he said he's given up.

02:49:00.240 And I'm saying there are multiple women who would date. 1.00

02:49:04.940 I don't know. 1.00

02:49:05.400 My advice to him would just be to accept that you're short and don't give a fuck. 0.98

02:49:09.320 You're going to get rejected a lot more than someone who's not short, but you just need to keep trying. 0.98

02:49:13.340 Also, he lives in communist Canada, so maybe he could, like, try his hand at, like, maybe, like, Asian countries, Latin America, you know?

02:49:22.140 They're shorter over there.

02:49:23.300 I mean, there's always that saying.

02:49:25.600 Passport bro.

02:49:27.500 There's always a, what is it, a somebody for everybody.

02:49:30.520 So keep that in mind.

02:49:32.000 Yeah, find yourself a 4'9 queen, dude. 1.00

02:49:33.700 I won't steal her from you, dude.

02:49:35.520 Well, you said beginning of the show.

02:49:37.540 He's a fan of the show.

02:49:38.580 Go get some status, right?

02:49:41.440 Wait, is that like an own?

02:49:42.900 No, no, no.

02:49:43.640 It's not at all.

02:49:44.720 With the logic of your show.

02:49:46.160 What was, wait, what was it?

02:49:47.980 Get status, because if you think women date up, go get rich. 1.00

02:49:52.200 Go get rich.

02:49:52.900 Well, yeah.

02:49:53.460 You try to level yourself up in as many ways as you can.

02:49:56.940 It can obviously start with your looks.

02:49:58.720 Get in the gym.

02:49:59.880 Try to make yourself as appealing physically as you can.

02:50:02.760 Get some, you know, get, you know, try your best to level up.

02:50:07.380 You can do it.

02:50:07.980 Get rich.

02:50:08.980 We believe in you.

02:50:09.720 Get famous.

02:50:10.760 Sure.

02:50:10.980 But let's be realistic, too.

02:50:13.000 Like, it's a lot like saying, oh, just get some status.

02:50:17.120 Like, do you realize how hard it is to just go get some status?

02:50:21.620 You can't just go to the store and be like, excuse me, clerk, I'd like some status today.

02:50:26.000 All of your status.

02:50:26.960 Give me some status.

02:50:28.360 He just needs to come on the whatever podcast.

02:50:30.260 This is kind of like most people who try to get some sort of status will probably never end up getting it.

02:50:35.500 It's the same way, like, oh, just, like, become, like, a super charismatic, charming guy.

02:50:40.720 Like, most people don't even have the capacity to ever become, like, funny or charming or charismatic.

02:50:46.840 Most people are just going to be normal, average people of average personality.

02:50:50.780 So, I don't know how useful that is.

02:50:54.280 You could consider, you know what, to the guys who struggle with dating, there's a couple things, right?

02:51:00.140 I actually have some notes here.

02:51:01.360 I want to help this guy out here.

02:51:03.860 I got a couple things.

02:51:04.900 Give me a, hold on, let me, I got to, I wrote this down because I got a couple things here.

02:51:09.000 Okay, hold on.

02:51:09.660 So, first off, you got to, I have a four-tier approach, okay?

02:51:16.240 Four-tier approach.

02:51:18.140 You got to min-max yourself, right?

02:51:19.960 So, any of you who play World of Warcraft, the concept of minimizing undesirable qualities and maximizing desirable qualities in order to achieve the most powerful character possible in an RPG.

02:51:31.020 In this case, the game of life of dating, you got to get a, look, having a six-pack is not a requisite for getting success in dating,

02:51:39.300 but it doesn't hurt.

02:51:41.280 No smoking, no drinking, no drugs.

02:51:42.960 You got to eat healthy, minimize stress, exercise.

02:51:45.180 You need a clear mind and a clear body.

02:51:47.780 So, you know, make yourself look good.

02:51:50.680 Then you got to min-max your approach, okay?

02:51:53.120 You got to, you know, dating apps, in-person, club, like not bars and clubs, like join a, like a club.

02:52:03.000 D&D club.

02:52:03.500 Like a sport club.

02:52:05.080 Fine, like you got to min-max how you're sourcing.

02:52:09.640 The ladies.

02:52:10.760 You can't just rely on one thing.

02:52:13.420 You got to, you know, okay, can you get social circle going?

02:52:16.660 Can you get the dating apps going?

02:52:18.180 Can you do cold approach?

02:52:20.540 You know, cold approach is actually, I think it's on the rise.

02:52:24.740 Okay.

02:52:25.220 Then, third option, third thing, passport bro.

02:52:28.520 Go to where you'll be appreciated.

02:52:31.220 Did you hear about the passport bro that just, like, got deleted?

02:52:37.360 In Latin America?

02:52:39.260 I think so.

02:52:40.800 There's, listen, there are definitely downsides to the passport bro.

02:52:43.680 I mean, also, if you're that much of a doomer when it comes to dating, find a hobby, find a passion, don't look back.

02:52:54.360 So, if after making a good faith effort to self-improve and you just, you can't find success, you're not going to fully give up, but dating now has to be on the back burner.

02:53:06.020 And you're going to throw yourself head first into a hobby or a passion.

02:53:10.080 My own recommendation, and this is geographically restricted a little bit, if you have the resources, I want you to take up surfing.

02:53:18.300 I know this sounds silly, but when you catch that first wave, you will be hooked.

02:53:23.460 I used to cancel dates with girls if the swell was good enough.

02:53:29.520 Chest high, goodbye.

02:53:32.080 Even in waist high, I'm going to cancel on a chick if I'm jonesing for some juicy waves, you know? 0.99

02:53:37.580 So, I'll tell you this, gentlemen. 1.00

02:53:40.040 I'm telling you, surfing is better than pussy. 1.00

02:53:43.400 Is that why you're still single? 0.99

02:53:45.440 No, actually, I've got some injuries, so I haven't, unfortunately, been able to surf much anymore.

02:53:49.560 So, but if you, okay, like, you will always rather, if you get into surfing, guys, you would always rather have a good surf session than get laid, okay?

02:54:01.640 Like, give me two options, right? 0.94

02:54:04.100 Go surf head high, glassy rink on with no one out, or have sex with the hottest girl in the world. 0.92

02:54:10.840 Throwing my wetsuit on and getting some waves. 0.82

02:54:13.520 I think you're an outlier then.

02:54:15.980 Dude, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1.00

02:54:17.560 No, you can ask surfers, ask surfers, would you rather get, have sex with the hottest chick of your life or go get barreled all day? 1.00

02:54:27.300 I guarantee you they're like, nah, brah, pussy can wait. 1.00

02:54:32.060 I want to get some waves. 1.00

02:54:33.480 No, no, no, play the cap sound. 0.99

02:54:35.560 No, no, no, no, no, I would, let me put it, if I had to choose, okay, between being celibate for a year and, like, being able to just go surf the best waves but I can't fuck for a year, give me some fucking waves. 0.99

02:54:49.480 Okay. 0.99

02:54:49.840 Mental waves, here we come.

02:54:51.420 So you're telling me you have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to hook up with Margot Robbie or any A-list, top model, whatever.

02:54:59.080 Versus.

02:54:59.480 You're going to choose getting barreled by the same waves that you. 0.84

02:55:02.700 Barreled, what the hell? 0.99

02:55:03.400 Or, I don't know, it's surfing terms. 1.00

02:55:06.160 Fucking pitted, bro. 0.99

02:55:06.220 So pitted. 1.00

02:55:07.020 Getting fucking pitted, bro. 0.99

02:55:08.440 Okay, by waves all day long that you could do any other day with good waves. 0.99

02:55:12.940 First off, why did you pick Margot Robbie?

02:55:15.800 She's trending right now.

02:55:16.900 I don't know.

02:55:17.300 There's a lot of attraction.

02:55:18.260 I said any A-list celebrity who's hot.

02:55:21.080 Yes, the hottest, give me the hottest chick. 0.96

02:55:24.360 If I can surf, I would rather surf, it doesn't even have to be barreling, give me head-high ringcon to myself for a day, I'm taking ringcon.

02:55:33.560 Okay.

02:55:35.180 But give me the best waves.

02:55:36.900 Do you know what you remind me of?

02:55:37.780 So I used to, on Twitch, be a part of the speedrunning community. 0.99

02:55:40.880 You remind me of the speedrunners who would say, I would rather just have good RNG all day long than have sex with a hot girl. 1.00

02:55:48.560 Surfing's on a totally different level. 0.96

02:55:53.400 No, this is like speedrunners.

02:55:54.500 I want good RNG this day. 1.00

02:55:55.900 I'd rather that than, like, fuck a hot chick. 1.00

02:55:58.320 Who in the speedrunning community ever said that? 1.00

02:56:02.480 I don't want to name people.

02:56:03.880 I have a lot of friends in that.

02:56:05.020 Uh-huh, uh-huh.

02:56:06.320 To finish my point, gentlemen, if the dating thing isn't working, again, throw yourself headfirst into a passion, a hobby.

02:56:15.360 And if you have the means, my recommendation is surfing.

02:56:18.700 Get yourself to the coast.

02:56:20.780 Save up if you have to.

02:56:22.300 Somewhere you can surf.

02:56:23.160 Get an instructor.

02:56:24.020 Trust me.

02:56:25.060 There's better things than sex and dating.

02:56:29.200 If I had to pick one for the rest of my life, if I had to pick one for the rest of my life, surfing or sex, surfing.

02:56:35.420 Oh, I mean, I'm celibate.

02:56:36.460 Surfing.

02:56:37.240 I'm celibate.

02:56:37.720 I'm not saying sex is everything.

02:56:38.720 I'm just saying that I think most, you're generalizing that most men would prefer surfing over having sex.

02:56:46.280 And I'm saying you're an outlier.

02:56:48.140 If they, if they, if they have a passion for surfing, they will always pick some juicy waves.

02:56:56.580 I think men, I kind of agree with that.

02:56:58.920 Every surfer I know is, like, so passionate about surfing. 0.99

02:57:01.520 I don't think you understand how fucking psycho surfers are. 0.99

02:57:04.640 I'm from Cali. 1.00

02:57:04.700 I'm from the mountains.

02:57:05.460 Here's the thing, right?

02:57:06.440 Surfing, it's like, it's not a thing where you can go at any time.

02:57:10.700 Like, it's very, especially in some geographic locations, like here in Santa Barbara.

02:57:15.400 Like, you'll maybe get 10, 20 good days in a year.

02:57:20.440 Hey, AB check.

02:57:21.740 Thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.

02:57:23.100 Thank you.

02:57:24.620 So, it's not like, oh, let's go to the tennis court.

02:57:28.280 Like, that's not how it is with surfing.

02:57:30.340 Like, tennis, you can play any time.

02:57:31.780 Grit One Motorsports donated $100.

02:57:33.100 Brian, surfing sounds cool, but racing is an addiction that makes heroin seem like a vague longing for something salty.

02:57:41.380 As much trouble as women are, wait until you want to afford the time and effort. 1.00

02:57:46.620 Look, if there's any, thank you, Good One, I appreciate it.

02:57:49.040 Look, if there's any doomers in the chat, just, and you're upset about your dating prospects, even if you're a woman, 0.95

02:57:54.980 try surfing, but it's more so for our dudes, but just get yourself, go to fucking Hawaii, wherever, go, go get some good juicy waves. 0.99

02:58:05.480 And I fucking guarantee you, you're going to be like, yeah, there's better things than sex. 0.99

02:58:10.320 Just saying. 1.00

02:58:10.900 The ocean is the only thing in the world I hate.

02:58:12.780 But do you still, do you think that's Kat?

02:58:13.960 No.

02:58:14.320 I'm not even lying.

02:58:14.660 I don't.

02:58:15.360 I honestly believe you.

02:58:16.580 One of the only things I hate is the ocean.

02:58:18.520 I think it terrifies me.

02:58:19.680 Snowboard.

02:58:20.680 Maybe that's why I'm a little opposed.

02:58:21.580 You do the same adrenaline.

02:58:22.860 But no, I think any man, your advice is correct.

02:58:26.160 Just find a hobby.

02:58:27.040 Find something you're passionate about.

02:58:28.080 It doesn't have to be surfing.

02:58:29.320 Maybe surfing's great.

02:58:30.640 I don't know.

02:58:31.260 Let me double down. 0.56

02:58:32.140 I'm going to double down on this. 0.99

02:58:33.540 I would rather go surf head high glassy ring con with nobody out than like have sex with like 10 of the hottest women in the world. 1.00

02:58:41.980 Forget about having sex. 0.99

02:58:43.220 Neither of us do casual sex anyway.

02:58:44.840 So just find something you're passionate about.

02:58:47.900 If you're depressed that you don't get laid, you have no life. 1.00

02:58:50.860 You are a loser. 1.00

02:58:51.520 You need to find a passion. 1.00

02:58:52.680 Oh my God.

02:58:53.560 Flan Life.

02:58:54.140 How are you doing?

02:58:55.040 Flan Life in the chats.

02:58:56.060 He is on fire.

02:58:57.340 Thank you, Flan Life.

02:58:58.080 Appreciate it, man.

02:58:58.960 All right.

02:58:59.180 Let me read a couple chats here and then we'll get on to our next.

02:59:03.060 Again, Brian, we agree.

02:59:04.420 You just like to argue with me because you know I'll argue back.

02:59:08.340 No, I agree with him.

02:59:09.480 I think.

02:59:11.060 Have you ever gotten some like juicy waves down in San Diego? 0.91

02:59:14.840 Like have you ever surfed the, oh, blacks. 1.00

02:59:17.980 Have you surfed blacks in SD?

02:59:19.760 I mean, I learned how to surf, but I'm not a huge.

02:59:23.180 Like La Jolla?

02:59:24.100 I'm not a huge fan of surfing.

02:59:24.800 You got on some like juicy waves in La Jolla or what?

02:59:27.740 I just, I don't.

02:59:28.340 Did you ever go down to Tijuana and just.

02:59:29.860 My least favorite thing about surfing is the wetsuits.

02:59:31.460 That's the way he says juicy.

02:59:32.160 The wetsuits are crazy.

02:59:33.380 Yeah, I don't like wetsuits.

02:59:34.460 Although San Diego has warm, warm water.

02:59:37.340 Like you can surf in the three, two, three, two year rounds probably.

02:59:39.820 Well, like taking off the wetsuit is just a whole mission.

02:59:43.840 After you get in the water. 0.98

02:59:44.720 Yeah, wetsuit sucks.

02:59:46.620 But I mean. 0.92

02:59:47.080 But it's a part of the experience. 0.98

02:59:48.080 Well, you're probably like putting on a shitty rental wetsuit. 0.74

02:59:50.040 Like you have to have your own. 0.95

02:59:51.340 You have to have your own.

02:59:52.080 Okay, let's do some chats.

02:59:53.180 We have.

02:59:54.120 Did I read this?

02:59:55.080 Oh, I think I read this one, right?

02:59:57.120 Yeah.

02:59:58.200 Maddie, can you read this one?

02:59:59.740 So when it comes to height, yes, it does matter to a certain degree.

03:00:02.840 I am five foot four and have accepted that.

03:00:05.220 I did have a situationship with someone that was five, ten, but we do have to put in a bunch

03:00:09.260 of extra work.

03:00:10.340 I don't mind it, but it is harder.

03:00:11.660 What do you mean by extra work?

03:00:14.640 Like in the bed or?

03:00:15.860 Yeah.

03:00:16.000 I feel like he had to try harder than maybe someone who was taller.

03:00:21.280 That's just how I interpreted it.

03:00:22.720 Like he had to put in more effort into the relationship.

03:00:26.320 I don't know.

03:00:27.340 I think that's probably the way he means it.

03:00:29.520 Like he's having to compensate for his.

03:00:33.040 I mean, we often hear like, I think women will even admit this.

03:00:36.040 Well, I'll date a guy who's ex, but he's going to have to make up with it in this other

03:00:41.420 way.

03:00:41.700 And I even said that, like, if you checked all my boxes and you were sure, sure, that's

03:00:45.440 fine.

03:00:45.720 But if you're short and you don't meet half of my needs.

03:00:48.840 Well, that's the thing is like the guy who's short has to be like really exceptional compared

03:00:54.180 to the guy who's like six foot three, who a lot of women will just like ignore red flags 1.00

03:01:01.480 and will just like tolerate a lot of bullshit. 0.99

03:01:03.460 Why did you, well, why did you do that? 0.99

03:01:05.680 Maddie, is it, you have experience on this one?

03:01:07.560 No, my nose is running.

03:01:08.620 Oh, okay.

03:01:09.160 Of course.

03:01:10.520 It was like a slight exhale.

03:01:12.340 Like you kind of had that experience, you know?

03:01:14.440 No.

03:01:15.500 Oh, okay.

03:01:16.020 All right.

03:01:16.960 Okay, we have.

03:01:17.800 Stay strong, short kings.

03:01:18.860 Can you read this one, Maddie?

03:01:21.060 I devoted my 20s to 30s building an empire, rarely dated.

03:01:25.820 My girlfriend is 19 years younger.

03:01:27.540 We have excellent conversations and compliment each other well.

03:01:30.400 I provide and defend with my AR-15.

03:01:32.860 She supports and comforts.

03:01:34.260 I'm not a predator.

03:01:35.200 P.S.

03:01:35.600 Gun control is sexist.

03:01:37.120 Wait, how old are you now?

03:01:39.280 CJ?

03:01:39.600 You said 19 years younger in your 30s?

03:01:44.200 How old are you now?

03:01:45.340 No, he's spent.

03:01:46.060 He devoted his 20s to 30s to building an empire.

03:01:48.520 I'm thinking he's maybe like late 30s, 40s, yeah, I think.

03:01:53.320 Okay.

03:01:53.500 CJ, why don't you specify?

03:01:54.800 W man.

03:01:55.940 By the way, guys, just a reminder, if you can, you know, we don't mind the YouTube super

03:02:00.980 chats, but if you can do it through Streamlabs, same exact price, just YouTube takes a brutal,

03:02:05.540 brutal 30% cut, so, you know, if you, you know, do it through Streamlabs, think about

03:02:10.960 it.

03:02:11.160 All right, thank you, guys.

03:02:11.960 And then we have this one, if you can read that one, Maddie.

03:02:15.420 Beauty, true alignment is based on the environment.

03:02:18.000 Who is likely to be more attractive, the child who is forced into sports at age five, or the

03:02:23.280 child who is given a PlayStation at age five?

03:02:25.660 All of us can be Chad's and Stacy's.

03:02:27.600 Hashtag, we are our environment.

03:02:29.940 Fox.

03:02:31.700 Word.

03:02:33.000 Okay, thank you, Vincent Lawrence.

03:02:34.740 Appreciate it.

03:02:37.540 Former dealer.

03:02:39.280 Hold on, we'll come back.

03:02:40.280 Uncondonated $100.

03:02:43.120 That's bull on the height, Malik, coming from you, who always talks about wanting to have

03:02:47.520 dated someone with superior genetics.

03:02:49.840 I doubt if someone checked everything else but height, you'd try to date them.

03:02:54.380 Okay, unknown.

03:02:56.000 Why didn't you use your real username?

03:02:57.880 That's my first question.

03:02:58.800 Second of all, I have stated, ideally, I want someone to have good genetics.

03:03:05.500 That's not me only saying I'll date people with superior genetics.

03:03:09.440 Oh, got another one.

03:03:10.320 I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100. 0.99

03:03:14.040 Nothing better than sex.

03:03:16.100 I have been the crew member of an M1A1 battle tank. 0.80

03:03:19.760 When the 120 millimeters goes off, there is no woman in this world that can make me harder 1.00

03:03:25.300 than that metal beast made me.

03:03:27.020 I don't blame you.

03:03:28.540 That is such a fact, dude.

03:03:30.480 My boyfriend is a vet, and he said the same thing about me.

03:03:34.840 He was also?

03:03:35.740 He said the same thing about you?

03:03:37.360 No, well, he, okay, so he used to work on jets.

03:03:39.840 Wait, he called you a tank?

03:03:41.640 What?

03:03:42.320 No, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me rephrase, let me rephrase, let me rephrase.

03:03:44.820 So my boyfriend's a vet, and he used to work on jets, and he said to me, like, you know,

03:03:51.240 if I could give one more thing to hear those again, I'd give you up.

03:03:55.860 And I'm like, okay, that's fair.

03:03:58.220 I'll take it.

03:03:59.180 Yeah, I'll take it.

03:04:00.400 No, but he's nice about it. 0.99

03:04:02.700 Damn. 0.99

03:04:03.100 But he does, like, he... 1.00

03:04:04.540 He'd dump you to...

03:04:05.540 No, no, no, he wouldn't dump me.

03:04:06.860 But he'd leave me for a day.

03:04:08.140 If we remove the levity and the laughing from this, so your boyfriend said he'd rather

03:04:11.940 listen to a jet than date you, is that the way?

03:04:16.160 Well, like, if he could be in those jets and, like, be around them.

03:04:19.660 Not rather than date me, but, like, you know what I mean?

03:04:22.160 Yeah, okay.

03:04:23.300 One day of sex wouldn't... 0.98

03:04:24.500 He would exchange it for one day of sex. 0.96

03:04:26.780 Huh. 0.99

03:04:27.740 Just one day?

03:04:28.380 That's not bad.

03:04:29.140 Well, if he...

03:04:30.140 I guess if he could get a week, he'd probably take it.

03:04:32.060 Oh, right.

03:04:33.700 That's not a bad thing.

03:04:34.620 Oh, did you want to fully respond to Uncown?

03:04:37.720 Uncown, he was saying about that.

03:04:39.140 You want...

03:04:39.780 You said you want to date someone with superior...

03:04:41.740 Uncown.

03:04:42.340 Because that's how it's spelled.

03:04:43.820 Oh, it wasn't...

03:04:44.200 You said you wanted to date someone with superior genetics?

03:04:47.100 No.

03:04:47.500 Have you said that on the screen?

03:04:48.380 So that person clearly has seen my content before, which is why they donate anonymously.

03:04:54.500 I'm not sure why.

03:04:55.100 But I have stated in the past that I want to be with someone who has good genetics.

03:05:01.580 So who somebody is...

03:05:02.200 I never said it's a requirement.

03:05:04.060 And I never...

03:05:04.860 I joke about superior genetics all the time because on my Twitch channel, I'm often very narcissistic.

03:05:11.340 Like, I often say, like, I am superior as far as, like, genetics, brains, and everything.

03:05:16.000 I don't...

03:05:16.460 Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

03:05:17.380 Yes, that's delusional.

03:05:18.240 Yes, that's delusional.

03:05:18.940 Wait, you say that about yourself?

03:05:20.060 Yes, I make these statements.

03:05:21.120 What do you say...

03:05:22.160 Restate it here on the whatever podcast.

03:05:25.660 Okay, to everyone who's watching...

03:05:27.720 Wait, tilt your mic down.

03:05:29.420 To everyone who's watching...

03:05:30.900 You tilted it up.

03:05:31.800 Yeah.

03:05:32.560 Superior genetics.

03:05:34.560 Superior brain.

03:05:35.460 Go ahead.

03:05:35.860 Word cooked.

03:05:36.380 Restate it. 1.00

03:05:38.260 Yes, I'm a fucking clown. 1.00

03:05:40.240 You're probably laughing at me and thinking I'm stupid as fuck, but in my own head, I love 1.00

03:05:44.560 myself. 1.00

03:05:45.460 I'm happier about myself than you probably are.

03:05:48.740 I know nothing about your life.

03:05:50.140 I know nothing about you, so by default, I know myself better, and I know I'm happy with

03:05:55.240 myself, and I know I'm not perfect, but I love myself, and I think my genetics are pretty

03:06:00.380 damn good.

03:06:01.300 So ideally, I would want someone with pretty good genetics, but that's besides the fact I just 0.98

03:06:05.440 love myself a lot, and I state that a lot.

03:06:07.500 What are your superior genetics?

03:06:09.500 Okay, so I'll...

03:06:11.120 Articulate it.

03:06:12.720 This is not like a serious topic.

03:06:14.480 It's more of like satire, but I have dark eyes.

03:06:19.480 If I reproduce with someone...

03:06:21.320 Hold on.

03:06:22.320 If...

03:06:22.880 Not saying it's better or worse, but if I reproduce with someone, if I have children 0.85

03:06:27.200 in the future, the chances of my future kid having dark eyes are significantly high,

03:06:32.860 because dark eyes are a superior genetic to lighter colored eyes.

03:06:36.620 They're more dominant, as far as genetics go.

03:06:39.740 Wait, so you're saying you have superior genetics because you have dark eyes?

03:06:43.700 Because you have dominant genetics?

03:06:45.340 Dominant.

03:06:46.000 Yeah, but that doesn't make it superior.

03:06:47.260 Wait, but you're talking dominant and recessive traits.

03:06:50.620 This is a joke!

03:06:51.680 This is an ongoing joke on my channel.

03:06:53.520 I'm tired.

03:06:54.300 Wouldn't the argument be that, like, broadly speaking, across cultures, lighter eyes are

03:07:00.100 deemed more attractive?

03:07:02.140 To you, maybe.

03:07:03.980 So basically, wouldn't you be wrecking somebody else's genetics?

03:07:07.640 Yeah.

03:07:08.160 With your dark eyes, if they have light eyes?

03:07:10.480 I'm just using that as an example.

03:07:12.000 I have...

03:07:12.400 I'm Middle Eastern, so my genetics are more dominant.

03:07:15.200 If I was dating someone who's African American or African...

03:07:17.740 But you said superior.

03:07:19.580 Their genetic...

03:07:20.140 Yes, because I...

03:07:21.740 Because she loves herself.

03:07:22.580 Yes, Maddie, do you want to help Brian out?

03:07:25.900 I don't agree with you, but I'm just saying...

03:07:28.060 I don't agree with me.

03:07:29.720 I think, no, I think she's saying that she thinks it's superior because she loves herself.

03:07:34.580 So she's... 0.98

03:07:35.100 Yes, that's all it is.

03:07:36.320 It's not...

03:07:37.440 It's not...

03:07:37.460 But isn't it, like, broadly speaking, even across different cultures, even in cultures

03:07:42.740 where dark eyes are dominant, don't they elevate people who have light eyes?

03:07:48.840 That's preference.

03:07:49.140 It's just a preference.

03:07:49.940 It's not just preference.

03:07:50.780 I think it's just, like, most people...

03:07:55.160 Well, that's fine.

03:07:55.740 Again, I know it's delusional.

03:07:56.780 Look, I find dark eyes attractive, but I'm just saying...

03:07:59.200 If I called myself the smartest person in this room right now, I could convince myself,

03:08:02.460 yes, I know it's delusional.

03:08:03.800 At least you know it's delusional.

03:08:05.820 No, I'm very well aware.

03:08:07.340 I'm very well aware.

03:08:08.460 These are opinions, and they are not facts.

03:08:11.340 Huh?

03:08:12.640 Huh?

03:08:12.920 Huh?

03:08:16.740 Can you do a little dance like that?

03:08:19.080 No, I don't dance.

03:08:21.120 All right, let's get through these chats.

03:08:24.080 So we had...

03:08:25.000 I do...

03:08:25.700 I can't stand for something for you, but there's...

03:08:27.400 Our first Menethel donated $100.

03:08:30.500 Hey, Brian, love your content.

03:08:33.460 Girl in the middle is beautiful, but probably wouldn't have a shot. 1.00

03:08:37.720 I'll take up surfing instead.

03:08:39.460 Thanks, bro. 1.00

03:08:40.540 What the fuck? 1.00

03:08:41.260 Wait, what? 1.00

03:08:41.780 That might have been the guy who sent in the...

03:08:44.700 What?

03:08:45.080 Who was the guy?

03:08:45.620 It was one of the YouTube superchats.

03:08:47.260 Yo, Arthas Menethel.

03:08:48.280 Thank you, man.

03:08:48.700 That's definitely a...

03:08:49.720 He's talking about Kiki.

03:08:50.440 World of War.

03:08:51.220 I think he's...

03:08:52.120 Girl in the middle is beautiful. 1.00

03:08:53.000 I think he's shooting... 0.99

03:08:54.020 Yeah, he's shooting a shot at you. 0.99

03:08:55.460 Oh. 0.95

03:08:57.540 Slide in the DM.

03:08:58.820 You're in a relationship.

03:08:59.820 I am.

03:09:00.120 I'm flattered, but sorry.

03:09:02.160 I think she means superior in the fact that it is dominant.

03:09:06.820 I don't agree with evolution, but it does make sense.

03:09:10.700 BTW, Jojo, you're hot, and I make six fix, but quit job.

03:09:15.140 Look for me in DMs.

03:09:18.400 What is this?

03:09:19.280 There's two people right there.

03:09:20.420 Boom, two.

03:09:21.120 You got suitors.

03:09:21.900 Hey, Kirby.

03:09:22.580 Kirby.

03:09:22.980 Every time a guy's dated he has six figures and is interested in you, you've smiled.

03:09:28.560 Oh, she's checking her DMs a second.

03:09:30.520 Do you find that attractive, that he's maybe a higher status in life than you?

03:09:36.780 Not trying to bring this combo back, just yes or no.

03:09:38.880 No, I just...

03:09:39.560 I think it's flattering, the messages.

03:09:41.820 I thought I was getting a lot of hate, so I think the general compliments are nice.

03:09:46.340 Like, aw.

03:09:47.800 Manson, can I have you read this one?

03:09:48.760 Not everyone hates me, right?

03:09:49.860 That's cool.

03:09:50.540 I love you.

03:09:50.800 Former D dealer, popular high school kid, dated a cheerleader, ex-bodybuilder, nephew of

03:09:56.440 GovGen, had massive parties.

03:09:59.280 Because, rest assured, the guest view is skewed.

03:10:02.000 Every woman I was into, my size, told me a height wasn't a matter. 1.00

03:10:05.240 She just wasn't interested, lol. 0.99

03:10:09.000 Damn. 0.99

03:10:09.880 I can say this. 0.99

03:10:10.760 I've been on a...

03:10:12.320 I mean, I'm 6'1", so most women are not taller than me, but I have dated women who are, 1.00

03:10:18.240 like, my height and taller.

03:10:20.180 I personally don't have an issue with it.

03:10:21.800 Interestingly enough, most of those dates, when it's with a woman who's taller, again,

03:10:28.740 I have absolutely no issue dating a woman who's taller than me, don't have any issues 0.98

03:10:32.640 with my height at all.

03:10:34.740 The success rate, if I were to compare it to women who are shorter than me, is markedly 0.99

03:10:41.360 lower with women who are taller than me.

03:10:45.520 I know this is anecdotal, but in my own personal experience, as someone who's 6'1", when I've

03:10:50.900 dated women who are my height, or taller, it seems to be more so on their part that they 0.54

03:10:58.460 take an issue with the height thing.

03:11:00.620 It's anecdotal, but...

03:11:01.740 Can I just address the fact that we're just going to skip over a former blank dealer?

03:11:07.500 I don't know.

03:11:08.000 I don't know if I can say...

03:11:08.900 Maybe it was that.

03:11:09.520 Maybe that was the reason they didn't want to date you.

03:11:11.660 Just throwing it out there?

03:11:13.160 I don't know.

03:11:13.840 Oh.

03:11:14.560 Perhaps.

03:11:15.260 Perchance.

03:11:16.320 We have David.

03:11:18.780 David, we need this to come through as a soup chat, por favor.

03:11:23.660 But thank you for your membership.

03:11:27.700 She has a boyfriend, only dates tankers. 1.00

03:11:29.980 Chick has the face of a character from Star Wars.

03:11:32.540 Brian, can you bring someone who actually has a personality?

03:11:35.680 R.I.P. Patrice O'Neil.

03:11:37.500 This clown chick needs to understand when to insert a period in a verbal sentence. 1.00

03:11:42.260 Yeah, who is Patrice O'Neil? 0.99

03:11:42.900 I yap, okay?

03:11:43.960 If you have a problem with it, don't listen when I talk.

03:11:47.140 Actually, we should react to that Patrice video.

03:11:49.280 We haven't done it in a while.

03:11:50.480 So we'll react to the Patrice video.

03:11:52.980 Yo, bro-naissance.

03:11:54.400 Thank you, man.

03:11:54.740 Appreciate it.

03:11:56.740 Someone who actually has a personality.

03:11:58.660 I don't know.

03:11:58.880 I feel like everyone here does.

03:11:59.940 This is a good personality table, you know?

03:12:02.240 We got Madison here tonight, so I mean, that was good, you know?

03:12:08.640 Okay, all right.

03:12:09.200 I think we're caught up on our chats.

03:12:10.880 Let's get into some notes here.

03:12:12.280 We got some notes.

03:12:13.180 Let me hide all these really quick.

03:12:14.900 Actually, you know what?

03:12:15.580 Before we do the notes, Stifler is very curious to ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale

03:12:21.420 of 1 to 10, starting with you going around the table.

03:12:23.740 Go ahead.

03:12:24.780 I got a 6.

03:12:26.200 Okay.

03:12:27.020 I'm a solid 6, man.

03:12:28.900 I'm so sorry.

03:12:29.600 I'm going to go 6.

03:12:32.440 Oh, God.

03:12:33.400 Which half do I rate?

03:12:37.380 Superior genetics, girl. 1.00

03:12:38.420 I'll keep my answer from last time.

03:12:39.700 I'll say I'm a 7.

03:12:41.500 I don't know.

03:12:41.960 I think I'm a little above average.

03:12:44.440 I'd say I'm a 7.

03:12:46.400 Yeah.

03:12:46.880 7.

03:12:48.340 8.

03:12:49.020 Nick, you totally missed that, I think, right?

03:12:51.400 Did you miss?

03:12:52.060 Yeah, I missed it.

03:12:52.660 Can you do it again?

03:12:53.120 Yeah, 7.

03:12:55.080 8.

03:12:56.720 8.

03:12:59.840 6.

03:13:00.420 Oh, no, 5.

03:13:01.140 Sorry.

03:13:01.460 5.

03:13:01.920 I'm a 5.

03:13:02.500 You went down.

03:13:03.340 You went up.

03:13:04.040 And then...

03:13:04.580 Oh, yeah.

03:13:05.780 We got Andrew here.

03:13:07.520 Yeah, he's back to his face. 0.99

03:13:08.200 Oh, I'm a fucking 10 for sure. 0.99

03:13:10.400 Explain why. 0.99

03:13:13.100 There you have it.

03:13:13.980 He is a 10.

03:13:16.760 It's beautiful.

03:13:17.500 It's beautiful.

03:13:18.100 All right.

03:13:18.300 No 10s at the table.

03:13:19.500 Except for...

03:13:20.360 Oh.

03:13:20.500 I'm surprised she doesn't say 10 since she was...

03:13:22.880 Said she's...

03:13:23.860 Superior.

03:13:24.420 Yeah, superior.

03:13:25.080 Yeah.

03:13:25.460 Those brown eyes girls.

03:13:26.260 Those brown eyes girls.

03:13:26.420 I was looking at my head, too.

03:13:27.940 Those brown eyes.

03:13:29.100 Like, I see myself as a 9 because I think I'm pretty great, but there's always room for

03:13:33.080 improvement.

03:13:33.440 But the general public, like, anytime I've...

03:13:37.080 Even on my Twitch, a lot of people are like, oh, put a poll.

03:13:38.960 How have guys rate you?

03:13:39.840 It's always generally between, like, a 7 and a 9.

03:13:43.120 I don't think I'm that much above average that the rest of the world perceives myself.

03:13:48.400 So I would say generally I would get rated around 7.

03:13:51.040 Okay.

03:13:51.660 All right.

03:13:52.360 Let's get into some of our notes here.

03:13:54.780 So, wait.

03:13:56.240 Who's Bender?

03:13:57.420 Oh, wait.

03:13:57.980 That's you.

03:13:59.340 Okay.

03:13:59.740 So, you said that you dated a heroin addict on and off for four years.

03:14:04.580 Yeah.

03:14:05.480 Okay.

03:14:07.660 What's the full details there?

03:14:09.460 So, first off, how many times on and off was it?

03:14:12.300 I couldn't tell you.

03:14:15.100 More than...

03:14:16.740 More than five.

03:14:20.920 Times on and off.

03:14:21.920 Honestly, it might even be more.

03:14:24.820 What details do you want?

03:14:26.840 How did I get there?

03:14:28.800 So, of the times that it was off, who ended things?

03:14:32.820 He did.

03:14:33.600 He...

03:14:33.740 Every single time?

03:14:34.600 Every single time.

03:14:35.580 You never...

03:14:36.160 Not once you ended it?

03:14:37.380 And it...

03:14:38.100 No.

03:14:38.800 And it wasn't ending it.

03:14:40.680 It was a relapse.

03:14:44.780 So, on and off, it was a period of him just not being there.

03:14:50.280 He just goes to...

03:14:51.020 What were...

03:14:51.380 How long were the periods?

03:14:53.460 It depends.

03:14:55.540 It had depended.

03:14:56.760 I think maybe one of the times was, like, max three months, I would say.

03:15:04.080 So, he would make the relationship off by...

03:15:09.040 Apollo Shinoda donated $100.

03:15:12.260 Girl in the baby blue is not a six. 0.99

03:15:14.700 Def and eight.

03:15:15.460 She got off.

03:15:15.860 As always, only nine is Madison.

03:15:17.720 I'll tell her that.

03:15:18.380 Great show tonight.

03:15:19.900 You have anything to say to this, Madison?

03:15:21.440 Thanks.

03:15:29.560 All right.

03:15:30.760 So, okay.

03:15:32.740 So, but you said it was an on-again, off-again relationship.

03:15:37.920 Yeah, because...

03:15:38.800 So, there would never be, like, a...

03:15:40.320 Because you said he would end it, but it wasn't really him overtly ending things.

03:15:44.800 He would just be in a...

03:15:46.440 Yeah, but during those times, it's like, I'm not going to state that I'm in a relationship.

03:15:51.440 With you, when you completely ghosted me, and was on this little, like...

03:15:57.180 Okay.

03:15:57.620 So, he would ghost you.

03:15:59.020 Would you...

03:16:00.520 Who would reinitiate contact?

03:16:03.140 He did.

03:16:03.720 Every time.

03:16:04.400 Okay.

03:16:05.220 Every time.

03:16:06.120 Yeah.

03:16:07.240 So, why...

03:16:09.440 Did...

03:16:10.440 The first time it was off again, it was because he relapsed?

03:16:15.220 Yeah.

03:16:15.600 When you met him, was he using?

03:16:17.300 No.

03:16:18.460 Okay.

03:16:18.760 But he...

03:16:19.340 Did he disclose to you that he was using?

03:16:21.460 That he...

03:16:21.940 That he had used in the past?

03:16:23.560 That he was a heroin addict?

03:16:24.720 Yeah.

03:16:25.040 Yes.

03:16:25.420 When you met him?

03:16:25.960 Mm-hmm.

03:16:26.420 You did...

03:16:26.760 And you said you dated him for four years?

03:16:28.520 On and off, yeah.

03:16:29.600 Okay.

03:16:30.520 So...

03:16:31.000 Someone called you a nine.

03:16:35.160 Yeah, somebody called you a nine.

03:16:37.020 Thank you.

03:16:38.120 Wait.

03:16:38.560 So, okay.

03:16:38.960 You would...

03:16:40.620 How many...

03:16:41.800 So, he relapsed on four separate occasions?

03:16:44.460 I honestly couldn't tell you if it was four or more.

03:16:48.300 There were...

03:16:49.520 Five?

03:16:50.360 I think maybe it was five, six.

03:16:51.840 Yeah.

03:16:52.360 Just about.

03:16:53.100 I...

03:16:53.680 It would be a period of him relapsing, being gone on this relapse, hitting rock bottom,

03:17:00.680 and then trying to get clean again, and then revisiting the relationship.

03:17:05.880 How long had he been clean when you met him?

03:17:08.740 He told me two years, I believe.

03:17:10.460 Two years.

03:17:10.940 Yeah.

03:17:11.240 And was that actually true, or was he shifting the numbers on how long he came clean?

03:17:17.040 From what I know, throughout the whole thing, I believe it was true, in two years.

03:17:20.340 Okay.

03:17:21.020 And so, you were together with him for how long before he relapsed?

03:17:25.940 It happened shortly after we started dating.

03:17:30.480 Maybe, like, a month.

03:17:32.680 A month in?

03:17:33.780 A month in.

03:17:34.340 And so, how...

03:17:35.540 For how long was he incommunicado?

03:17:38.080 Uh, like, well, so, that first initial relapse wasn't...

03:17:43.360 Oh, it wasn't off.

03:17:44.480 No, it didn't.

03:17:45.520 You stayed...

03:17:45.540 You, like, stayed with him, kind of.

03:17:47.580 It wasn't...

03:17:48.720 Did you use also?

03:17:50.080 Did I use?

03:17:50.760 Yeah.

03:17:51.100 No.

03:17:51.560 Okay.

03:17:52.040 Yeah.

03:17:52.560 No.

03:17:52.720 Um, so, why, why did you not break up with him after the, I assume heroin use is a deal-breaker

03:18:02.740 for most people, right?

03:18:04.060 So, why did you stay with him?

03:18:06.240 Because, well, being that young, I was naive, and...

03:18:11.940 How young were you?

03:18:13.420 21.

03:18:14.320 When you first met him?

03:18:15.320 Yeah.

03:18:15.720 I was 21.

03:18:16.860 And...

03:18:17.420 Wait, you said you've been single for two months.

03:18:19.560 Two months or two years, excuse me?

03:18:22.060 Uh...

03:18:22.420 Oh, sorry.

03:18:22.880 I've got my suit mixed up.

03:18:23.800 Yeah, I was like...

03:18:23.920 Hold on.

03:18:24.480 No, sorry.

03:18:25.480 You're currently in a relationship.

03:18:28.680 Okay.

03:18:29.080 I see.

03:18:29.460 Sorry.

03:18:29.760 I got mixed up.

03:18:30.720 My bad.

03:18:32.240 So, okay.

03:18:33.000 Why did you stay with him?

03:18:34.660 I had no idea what I was getting myself into, given, obviously, heroin addiction is something

03:18:40.440 that, yes, anybody would run the opposite direction, but I think I just saw more in him

03:18:46.820 at the time than just the addiction.

03:18:49.340 So, when he initially came to me and told me, like, face on, that he was relapsing in the

03:18:58.460 beginning, like, when we were first together, it was...

03:19:02.060 It wasn't something that was, like, sneakily done around, and I just got to learn how...

03:19:07.780 I'm sorry.

03:19:10.200 It wasn't something that was super sneakily done.

03:19:16.440 I just got to learn how dark it got.

03:19:19.620 I didn't know what I was getting myself into.

03:19:21.820 You thought you could help him.

03:19:23.080 Yeah.

03:19:23.880 And it was a wild ride.

03:19:26.900 By the end of your relationship, did he get over that, or was he continuing to relapse?

03:19:35.300 By the end...

03:19:38.520 Towards the end, the last reason, when he reached out the last time, the reason was

03:19:46.100 that he relapsed, and then we...

03:19:49.640 He reached out to me, and we...

03:19:51.860 He was getting clean again, and I went to go see him, and then there was just some other

03:19:57.180 stuff that happened, and then we just...

03:20:00.060 That's when it ended for good.

03:20:02.140 How old was he?

03:20:03.920 He's 29 now.

03:20:06.080 Well, no, no.

03:20:06.540 So, you...

03:20:07.160 When you met him, you were...

03:20:08.100 He was 24.

03:20:08.900 And you were...

03:20:09.900 21.

03:20:10.560 21, 24.

03:20:11.700 Okay.

03:20:11.900 Yeah.

03:20:12.040 Was there anything, like, insane that he did to you guys in the relationship?

03:20:22.240 Because, I don't know, you said when he was using, you weren't in the relationship with

03:20:27.780 him?

03:20:28.000 Or that was when it was off?

03:20:29.520 There were times that we were together when he was using during, like, his relapse.

03:20:33.220 There were just times that initially it got so bad where he would just, like, go on

03:20:39.080 his...

03:20:39.560 Yeah, his tangent.

03:20:40.360 He would pick that, like, pick that path.

03:20:46.120 So...

03:20:46.420 So he didn't do anything super crazy.

03:20:49.220 But, yes, there was lots of crazy things that I experienced during that time.

03:20:54.080 Did you...

03:20:54.880 Prior to the first off, did you experience any of those crazy things?

03:20:59.020 Uh, no, not necessarily.

03:21:02.920 It was just a build-up.

03:21:04.420 Well, I would argue finding out your...

03:21:06.360 Yeah.

03:21:07.040 ...boyfriend doing heroin, that's probably a pretty big thing.

03:21:09.360 But, uh...

03:21:10.840 So...

03:21:12.240 Why would you keep getting back with him?

03:21:15.660 Because I saw more in him than just addiction.

03:21:20.260 Addiction is not, like...

03:21:22.240 It's something that I knew that I didn't...

03:21:25.320 It had nothing to do with me.

03:21:26.440 So I did want to just be there to support him.

03:21:29.840 And I felt like I had a better understanding of addiction than most people, where it's,

03:21:35.220 like, people most of the time believe that an addict is always just going to be an addict

03:21:40.500 and, like, just pick, you know, the drugs.

03:21:44.020 But...

03:21:44.220 But he kind of did.

03:21:45.440 Yeah, but...

03:21:45.940 But he kind of did.

03:21:46.860 Yes.

03:21:47.360 Yeah, he did, ultimately.

03:21:48.800 You said he relapsed five times plus?

03:21:52.120 Yeah, uh-huh.

03:21:53.580 And...

03:21:54.020 Did your parents know about this relationship?

03:21:56.440 Uh, my mom does, yeah.

03:21:58.740 Or my mom did, after the fact.

03:22:00.760 I didn't share this.

03:22:01.840 How early did your parents know that this guy was a heroin addict?

03:22:05.660 It was until after that I shared it with my mom.

03:22:08.980 Oh, after the relationship was done?

03:22:10.880 Yeah.

03:22:12.240 So you kept that hidden from your family?

03:22:15.220 Yes.

03:22:15.600 My mom knew to an extent that there was something going on, but she didn't, um, pry about it.

03:22:27.220 They, you, I mean, they didn't, for four years this was going on, on and off, where this guy was taking heroin and he never told your folks at all?

03:22:36.680 No.

03:22:38.880 Wow.

03:22:39.540 Okay.

03:22:39.840 It's some, I mean, it's something, during the time, it was something that I, at the time, and I come to realize this later, that I was not telling my parents to protect his image, basically.

03:22:51.700 To protect, like, yeah, exactly, his image.

03:22:54.320 His image in their eyes.

03:22:56.220 Yeah, exactly.

03:22:56.820 Well, didn't it also protect your image, though?

03:22:59.520 Yeah, that too.

03:23:01.120 Yeah.

03:23:01.940 Okay.

03:23:02.260 I was dealing with so much of the time that I didn't want to deal with what my, like, deal with that, having to bring that stress to my family as well.

03:23:11.760 Because, correct me if I'm wrong, but you had hoped and believed him that he would not be a heroin addict anymore and he would give that up to be with you.

03:23:18.820 No, it wasn't about being with me.

03:23:21.000 Like, I know.

03:23:21.440 No, but just in general, you were hoping he would recover and not relapse.

03:23:24.540 Yeah, yeah.

03:23:24.860 Absolutely.

03:23:25.160 That was the end goal.

03:23:26.180 Didn't necessarily feel the need to tell that, because you were hoping it would be something of the past.

03:23:30.300 Not necessarily, no.

03:23:31.600 It was just something I didn't want to stress my, like, parents about.

03:23:35.160 Do you still care about this guy?

03:23:38.400 As far as, like, I hope he's doing well, but I don't have any contact with him, and what he's doing right now is what he's doing.

03:23:47.240 I've tried to be there for him during the time that we were together, but I can't say that.

03:23:55.380 I mean, yes, in a sense, because I do care if he's doing okay, but again, I'm not going to reach out to check on him or anything.

03:24:00.700 I have no idea where he is.

03:24:01.740 So, wait, did you, um, when it was off, would you be dating other men, or were you just?

03:24:11.700 Um, there was a couple of times, like, maybe two times that we were off.

03:24:16.280 Other guys in the picture?

03:24:16.540 Yeah, that I was, and I made that clear when he ended up coming back.

03:24:21.240 There was a couple times that I tried going on, like, a couple dates.

03:24:24.160 There was one time, um, when we were split for about, like, five months, I was dating somebody else, but that just didn't end up working out prior to him.

03:24:32.080 Well, did it not work out because you were hoping that the heroin man would come back into the picture?

03:24:39.140 No, it just, it ended prior to him even coming back, but it just, we weren't compatible, it just ended.

03:24:47.240 Do you think it's, um, abnormal to continuously date someone who's, uh, addicted to heroin?

03:24:57.880 No.

03:24:59.060 Wait, that's not, that's.

03:25:00.600 Well, I think if you're in a relationship, and you are truly devoted to the person, and you want to pursue something with them, and it's very meaningful to you, you're naturally going to want to help them recover.

03:25:10.940 But she was, she was, uh, only dating him for a month, right?

03:25:14.400 You said you found out a month into the relationship.

03:25:17.380 That he relapsed.

03:25:18.100 Or, no, no, no, it was a month into the, you knew earlier on in the relationship that he had, uh, issues with drug use, but then, uh, a month in, he relapsed.

03:25:28.200 Mm-hmm.

03:25:28.420 A lot of women fall into the trap of, I can fix things. 1.00

03:25:32.700 I think a month in is, that's your exit strategy.

03:25:36.380 A month in.

03:25:37.220 It was, and he, and, and yes, I had an exit, he tried to give me an exit plan when he told me that he was relapsing and it was getting bad.

03:25:47.740 He tried to give me an out, and yeah, I think I stayed to try to not fix him, but give him the support that I thought he needed.

03:25:53.720 And it did, I believe.

03:25:55.980 It kind of sounds like fixing him.

03:25:57.500 Yeah, I, I mean, I guess if you want to put it that way, yeah.

03:26:00.780 But, um, and the, I feel, and from what I saw, the support in the beginning did, um, and he did end up getting clean.

03:26:09.460 He went to rehab and got clean, and then, um.

03:26:12.320 Yeah, but this guy locked up, like, four years of your life dating him.

03:26:17.180 Yeah.

03:26:17.980 It's a long time.

03:26:19.400 Yep.

03:26:19.520 Um, I mean.

03:26:20.940 Was he on other drugs, by the way?

03:26:22.760 When you're a heroin addict, you do everything.

03:26:25.840 There's no.

03:26:26.380 So he was doing, so he was doing everything and heroin.

03:26:29.040 I mean, when you're, that's your addiction is that specific drug, but you're around everything else, so.

03:26:37.740 So, like, what else was this guy doing?

03:26:40.060 Was he doing, like, crystal meth, right?

03:26:42.320 Was he, was he smoking crystal meth?

03:26:44.060 Every other drug, could, if you consider heroin being, like, the top of the worst drugs, everything else, it's, it's in the same, you're around the same thing when you're using, like, you're on the streets.

03:26:56.760 So, so when he'd have a relapse, a heroin relapse, would he smoke crystal meth and, and, uh, this kind of thing?

03:27:02.760 No, it wasn't like he was using that as well, but I knew that, like, during his rampages, his other addict, the other addicts he was, was around, that that was, like,

03:27:14.060 a casual thing to be doing.

03:27:16.520 Well, I don't know if this is a hot take, but, uh, my advice to both men and women, this isn't a gender thing, uh, junkie is not very high on the list of people you should date. 0.99

03:27:32.760 No, it's not.

03:27:33.940 I would not recommend it.

03:27:35.420 Is that a hot take?

03:27:36.200 I don't know.

03:27:36.920 It's not a hot take.

03:27:37.200 Maybe a red flag.

03:27:38.420 A little controversial.

03:27:38.740 Maybe a deal breaker.

03:27:41.400 Junkie.

03:27:43.060 Relapsing.

03:27:44.060 You know what I mean?

03:27:45.320 I will, I will say people can definitely, like, recover and clean up their lives, but during that time, don't think you can save them because you can't.

03:27:52.760 Well, let me take it a step further.

03:27:54.680 They have to save themselves.

03:27:56.200 I would argue, at least, look, here's my perspective on the male side of things.

03:28:02.040 Uh, if she has a history of drug use, uh, you should preclude her from consideration when it comes to dating. 0.98

03:28:09.160 Just point blank.

03:28:10.240 For me personally, drugs are a deal breaker.

03:28:12.340 There's plenty of people that are not drug addicted or don't have a history of drug addiction.

03:28:15.940 Plenty of fish in the sea.

03:28:17.720 Uh, again.

03:28:18.920 What about stuff like weed, Brian?

03:28:20.760 You don't care about that, do you?

03:28:22.340 Uh, I'm actually, I'm not, it, obviously it's not as hard of a drug as heroin or these other hard drugs, but I actually think that, uh, significant marijuana usage is actually a character defect.

03:28:37.040 Uh, and, uh, I, uh, I personally, I don't smoke, I don't smoke weed.

03:28:43.780 If she did it minimally, it's okay, but if it's significant, if she uses it significantly, I think that that's, uh, a red flag.

03:28:53.240 I think there's also a difference between someone who occasionally smokes and a stoner.

03:28:58.540 Well, I'd prefer someone who just doesn't smoke at all.

03:29:00.500 I agree with you on this.

03:29:01.780 I'm completely opposed to drugs.

03:29:02.600 If she smokes occasionally, I don't think that's not going to be a deal breaker for me, but I would prefer somebody who doesn't smoke.

03:29:10.140 And, I mean, similarly, when it comes to drinking, I don't really drink, so I'd prefer someone who doesn't drink.

03:29:15.260 Yeah.

03:29:15.540 So, why, Andrew, are you a pothead?

03:29:21.100 Uh, no, I do not partake.

03:29:23.080 He's been lightened out this whole time.

03:29:24.760 He's a chain smoker.

03:29:26.140 Yeah.

03:29:26.520 Your vice is tobacco.

03:29:29.240 Yeah.

03:29:29.600 Nicotine.

03:29:29.940 Yep, nicotine.

03:29:30.580 Nicotine.

03:29:31.140 Nicotine.

03:29:31.700 Okay. 0.99

03:29:32.560 Uh, damn, though, that's heavy. 0.99

03:29:35.220 That is heavy. 0.99

03:29:36.360 You're a champ.

03:29:37.680 Yeah.

03:29:38.060 Because that's...

03:29:38.940 I wanted to follow up with a couple of questions, if you don't mind.

03:29:41.880 Absolutely.

03:29:42.180 Um, so, was this guy engaging also in criminal activity, heavy criminal activity during this

03:29:48.060 time?

03:29:48.880 Uh, yeah.

03:29:50.080 He had gotten arrested a couple of times.

03:29:53.260 Did you get involved in any of that criminal activity as well with him?

03:29:56.620 No.

03:29:57.260 Like, did he, I mean, did he try to drag you into it?

03:30:00.080 No.

03:30:00.720 It was, I think that was one of the things that probably, not necessarily kept me around for

03:30:05.780 so long, but, um, his separation from, I don't know how to put this, um, his, seeing his struggle

03:30:21.120 on trying to separate his addiction from his normal life.

03:30:26.980 Like, just seeing someone who had that struggle trying to get clean and couldn't and, and fell

03:30:34.680 into, like, the black hole of addiction was something that he kept very separate from, or

03:30:41.680 tried to keep very separate from our relationship.

03:30:45.100 So, no, he didn't, like, try to get me involved in any of that.

03:30:49.260 Did you ever inadvertently end up having to pay for his habit?

03:30:54.620 Uh, uh, there were times that I later found out that it was, yes, kind of, that, unknowingly,

03:31:04.220 I guess.

03:31:05.500 Yeah.

03:31:06.200 Yeah.

03:31:06.660 Okay.

03:31:07.220 Yeah, I was just, uh, I was just curious.

03:31:09.600 Four years is a long time to be with a heroin addict, right?

03:31:12.820 Yeah.

03:31:13.340 Very long time.

03:31:14.320 Just, if you're okay with answering, what would he say when you were, like, trying to

03:31:19.160 help him?

03:31:19.800 What was his answer of, like?

03:31:22.580 I mean, the, as far as trying to help him, it wasn't really, I don't know how to answer

03:31:32.840 that, because there's no direct, like, you know, you have so much more to offer.

03:31:37.680 There's not, like, those direct kind of answers for somebody.

03:31:40.580 It's just.

03:31:42.360 I guess, what excuses would he give?

03:31:44.260 Or would he say an excuse as possible?

03:31:46.940 I think addicts know, in a way, that there's going to be nothing that is going to change

03:31:50.280 the way they feel, because when you are addicted to a drug, it's not you, it's the drug taking

03:31:55.560 over your body, it is the drug making decisions for you in your life, and it's really hard

03:32:01.120 to go back from that.

03:32:02.760 So, they just, like, know that they're doomed, kind of, and it's hard for them to get better,

03:32:07.540 because they know that, and they.

03:32:09.520 You have to help.

03:32:10.580 They don't, yeah, they don't know how to help themselves, because it's right in front

03:32:13.940 of them.

03:32:14.260 Yeah, and then, in their mind, the only thing that helps them is the drug, and that's why

03:32:18.200 it's a constant loop.

03:32:19.440 Yeah.

03:32:19.620 So, what was, like, the final straw for you of, like, the last, of him saying, I can get

03:32:23.300 better, I could do this, what was the last?

03:32:24.980 There, there wasn't, if I'm being completely honest.

03:32:28.680 I think that I'd never, no matter how many times, like, and that's where, when I was saying

03:32:37.120 in the beginning, I don't think, I think a lot of people see addiction and see, like,

03:32:40.580 a lost cause, and that's where addicts have such a hard time gaining that support, because

03:32:47.560 they lose that trust from the support they got originally so many times, and that situation,

03:32:54.840 and, like, in that case, our situation got so detrimental, where I couldn't be his support

03:32:58.860 anymore, I started becoming, like, part of the problem, because I went, like, AWOL.

03:33:04.040 Like, any time something would happen, I just went, like, completely.

03:33:07.980 It was really toxic, so there wasn't really a time, it honestly just ended on terms where

03:33:18.100 it wasn't going to, it was so toxic towards the end that that's what was the defining factor,

03:33:23.760 that it wasn't going to work.

03:33:24.960 I don't think I ever lost faith in the fact that he could get clean.

03:33:29.380 I'm sorry that happened.

03:33:30.620 Yeah, thank you.

03:33:32.140 It's okay.

03:33:34.560 Yeah, not a lot of people can do that for other people. 1.00

03:33:37.160 Not necessarily, like, be their savior or whatever, but as you say, addicts, they fuck 0.98

03:33:46.200 up a lot, you know?

03:33:47.520 They lose a lot of the support that they have, and because of that, I think it makes things

03:33:52.860 a lot worse a lot faster, because when and if they do come to their senses on an off day,

03:34:00.960 and they're like, alright, maybe I'm messing up, I need help, no one's really there to help

03:34:05.680 them.

03:34:05.960 And an addict won't get ready, they won't get help unless they're ready, so anybody

03:34:10.640 can try to do anything for them, give them all the resources, but it's not going to happen

03:34:14.400 until they're ready.

03:34:15.720 And it's hard to, yeah, be the person that's going to be there when they aren't ready.

03:34:21.480 And you can have, like, the sympathy for them.

03:34:23.540 Like you said, I feel like everyone also looks at addicts like a lost cause, but at the same

03:34:28.040 time, you do have to take into account that they fully did that themselves.

03:34:32.260 And they are driving those people out of their life that want to help them and want to support

03:34:36.260 them.

03:34:36.540 And they truly just don't want to get better until they're ready, like you said.

03:34:40.140 Would you go through or put yourself through that again?

03:34:44.560 Am I allowed to cuss? 1.00

03:34:46.000 You better say fuck no. 1.00

03:34:47.680 Yeah, you better say fuck no. 1.00

03:34:49.280 Ultimately, my last question on this, as I'm sure Brian wants to move the convo on, but 0.99

03:34:55.140 would you say in retrospect that you were as much of an enabler of the behavior as you

03:35:01.020 were somebody ultimately who was assisting and putting a stop to it?

03:35:06.080 No, I don't think so.

03:35:09.400 I think as I learned with his addiction, I, and even just his environment, you obviously

03:35:18.040 dating an addict, you learn a lot about addiction.

03:35:20.800 And I don't think that, I mean, maybe at one point because I was so naive about what was

03:35:27.560 happening that I couldn't differentiate what was like going on.

03:35:31.620 I couldn't tell if, at sometimes if he was lying to me or I couldn't tell that he was

03:35:39.800 relapsing at first.

03:35:41.600 So, in those cases, yes, but I think in the sense of trying, like the support that I tried

03:35:48.200 to give him or how I thought I was helping him and I was enabling instead, I don't think

03:35:52.520 I was.

03:35:53.420 You're talking about years, I mean, four years and many, many, many relapses.

03:35:59.300 At what point, at what point has there become a distinction between enabling behavior and

03:36:05.160 helping behavior?

03:36:06.560 Do you mean like, as in accepting him back every time he relapsed as, as like referring

03:36:12.440 to that as enabling?

03:36:13.540 Yeah.

03:36:14.160 As, well, I mean, is it enabling?

03:36:16.220 Um, I don't know how I would answer that because every time he would come back, it wasn't

03:36:23.300 while he was, like, it wasn't at a time that he was relapsing.

03:36:30.160 Every time he would come back, it was already when he was ready to get clean.

03:36:35.060 So, I'm not sure if that would be considered enabling his addiction.

03:36:40.260 I mean, I would understand because I was always there.

03:36:43.360 You know, he, he always had somebody there to come back to, but I don't think so.

03:36:50.040 I don't think I could say that.

03:36:53.200 I wonder if there's any data when it comes to dating.

03:36:55.960 There probably isn't.

03:36:57.540 Who's more likely to date? 0.82

03:37:01.940 Drug addicts.

03:37:02.500 Drug addicts?

03:37:03.360 Well, women. 1.00

03:37:04.220 Women. 0.81

03:37:04.500 I think in general, men use drugs more than women do. 0.81

03:37:08.120 Do they?

03:37:09.680 No.

03:37:10.620 I don't know the statistics.

03:37:11.820 They, women just use more legal drugs. 1.00

03:37:14.660 Yeah, that's what I was referring to when it comes to illegal drugs, especially, like,

03:37:18.720 in dealings and stuff.

03:37:19.700 It's a very dangerous atmosphere in general.

03:37:22.120 So, you find more men doing that than women anyway.

03:37:25.140 And the women who do do it, it's because they have a boyfriend, a brother, a family member, 1.00

03:37:28.940 or a best friend who's into that who gets the woman into it generally.

03:37:32.080 So, men are to blame.

03:37:33.540 Okay.

03:37:34.360 All right.

03:37:35.060 Well, I mean, also, it's just like women are attracted to bad boys. 1.00

03:37:38.160 Women are attracted to bad boys. 1.00

03:37:40.440 And, I mean, it sounded like you said he was also involved in some, I might have stepped

03:37:45.120 away, some criminal activity or something.

03:37:47.660 So, yeah, women just seem to be attracted to what I view as character defects and flaws 1.00

03:37:53.960 in men.

03:37:54.640 Not all women. 0.96

03:37:55.860 Not all women. 0.96

03:37:56.500 But, for example, hebristophilia.

03:37:58.760 I don't know if we even brought that up when you were on the show last.

03:38:01.160 And I've mentioned it quite frequently in the, well, people really, a lot of people are 0.95

03:38:05.340 tuning out for this fucking, this particular conversation. 0.96

03:38:08.620 But I'm sorry. 0.99

03:38:10.140 No, it's okay.

03:38:11.980 But so, hebristophilia, women are attracted to men who are, they're attracted to criminality. 0.72

03:38:19.660 And this is almost exclusively something that you see in women as compared to men. 0.90

03:38:24.460 It's very rare in men, but much more common in women.

03:38:28.460 I think it's not common in women in general. 1.00

03:38:30.920 I personally have never understood that, but that is true.

03:38:33.940 Well, I think it has to do capacity for violence.

03:38:35.980 So, someone who's a criminal may very well have more capacity for violence or to do things

03:38:41.400 that could, you know, in some dire situation, if they're more drawn to criminality, they

03:38:47.580 could conceivably better provide for children if they're willing to steal or cheat or lie.

03:38:53.600 Maybe that's a stretch, but...

03:38:57.020 I don't agree with that at all.

03:38:57.680 It makes sense in my head.

03:38:59.340 I know women, I've known women in my life who have dated criminals, and I've never understood

03:39:05.200 the appeal, or like, specifically.

03:39:07.580 Yeah, that's you, though.

03:39:08.400 Yeah, that's me.

03:39:09.220 Anyways, let's get these chats out, because there's quite a few.

03:39:13.760 Maddie, if you can read.

03:39:14.840 Did it...

03:39:15.660 There's no way the chick who looks like she blows the horn of Gonder says she's a seven 1.00

03:39:22.560 no effing way.

03:39:24.680 That's okay.

03:39:25.440 My boyfriend thinks I'm hot.

03:39:28.360 Okay.

03:39:29.440 Maddie?

03:39:29.840 From left to right.

03:39:31.720 Madison, eight.

03:39:32.660 Heroin, chick, five.

03:39:35.100 Java, two.

03:39:36.240 Red-headed, waddle, three.

03:39:38.220 Joker and aca, four.

03:39:39.400 Blue shirt, chick, five.

03:39:41.080 Multicolored weirdo, four.

03:39:42.860 Renaissance, fair, chick, nine.

03:39:45.180 Who's the best?

03:39:45.720 Not my words, guys.

03:39:46.620 I just have to read this.

03:39:48.140 Who's the rena... 0.99

03:39:48.960 That's Kirby.

03:39:50.100 That's Kirby.

03:39:51.020 She's the renaissance fair chick. 1.00

03:39:52.980 Is this one of your viewers or something?

03:39:56.160 Better check those DMs.

03:39:58.740 I'm going to have to give surfing a pass.

03:40:00.520 More of a cliff jumping guy.

03:40:02.300 It's that we're spreading some good ol' freedom in Helldivers.

03:40:05.640 Has anyone given it a try?

03:40:07.180 And as far as rates go, that one on the far end is a smoke show and light blue is kind

03:40:12.020 of a champ.

03:40:12.500 Who's on the far end?

03:40:16.040 You.

03:40:16.680 It's you.

03:40:17.800 Yeah, that's how I am.

03:40:19.600 It's always me.

03:40:20.420 All right.

03:40:21.180 We have this one.

03:40:23.080 My dad was a hero Addie.

03:40:25.640 I know how she feels.

03:40:27.480 Beat that out of me for not knowing math.

03:40:30.380 But to the appy biot being a weed dealer prior to legalize is about the coolest dudes 1.00

03:40:36.040 out there.

03:40:37.240 24 body count for age 21.

03:40:39.640 They just didn't want to date because of height.

03:40:42.000 What?

03:40:48.480 You have a 24 body count, but they didn't want to date you?

03:40:52.820 Because of their height.

03:40:53.680 You're saying the girls would smash, but they wouldn't date you?

03:40:55.740 Is that what you're saying?

03:40:56.760 Interesting.

03:40:57.160 Okay.

03:40:57.800 Thank you.

03:40:58.240 Thank you.

03:40:58.540 Thank you.

03:40:58.560 The official prints.

03:40:59.380 Merci beaucoup for the Canadian 50. 0.97

03:41:02.740 All right.

03:41:03.280 Let me get into some other notes.

03:41:04.580 Oh, okay.

03:41:05.020 We're going to do a segment here.

03:41:06.840 Going around the table.

03:41:08.540 Does you consider yourself traditional?

03:41:12.160 Correct?

03:41:13.000 Yes.

03:41:13.500 Traditional.

03:41:14.160 Going around the table.

03:41:15.060 Who else here considers themselves traditional?

03:41:20.120 Not traditional?

03:41:21.580 Not specifically traditional.

03:41:22.880 You got to speak into the mic.

03:41:24.000 Sorry.

03:41:24.320 I'm so sorry.

03:41:24.820 Not traditionally.

03:41:27.060 Oh, sorry.

03:41:28.320 Spaced out.

03:41:29.140 I think I am traditional when it comes to relationships.

03:41:31.740 Like, my end goal is to be a stay-at-home mom.

03:41:33.960 I would prefer my husband provide, but I do have quite a potty mouth and a dark sense of

03:41:39.180 humor, so maybe in some aspects a little bit more modern.

03:41:41.600 Do you consider yourself a traditional woman overall?

03:41:46.060 I think it's on a spectrum, so maybe not fully, but I think maybe more traditional than

03:41:52.380 some.

03:41:53.620 I would say I'm completely traditional when it comes to relationships, but as far as lifestyle,

03:41:57.800 I want to work.

03:41:58.840 I want to be always providing for myself in addition to being with someone who's providing

03:42:04.180 for my family, but in a relationship sense, I'm traditional, but in lifestyle, I guess not

03:42:09.280 really.

03:42:09.420 Wait, you always want to be working for yourself?

03:42:11.880 Yes.

03:42:12.640 I...

03:42:13.000 Even if you meet a really wealthy guy who's like, nah, just stay home, pump out babies, 1.00

03:42:17.360 take care of the kids.

03:42:18.000 I would work for fun.

03:42:18.900 Like, if I didn't get paid, I would still work.

03:42:20.480 What about if you have, like, seven sons?

03:42:22.840 I will take care of my children.

03:42:24.280 That'll be my priority.

03:42:25.440 And work?

03:42:26.380 And I will work in my free time instead of...

03:42:28.680 What are you going to do?

03:42:28.980 I don't watch movies and TV shows.

03:42:30.400 I work.

03:42:31.000 What are you going to do?

03:42:33.180 I'm going to work.

03:42:34.080 I'm doing real estate right now.

03:42:35.380 I'm in school for real estate.

03:42:36.400 So as you're, say, in this scenario, your husband's like, well, uh, no, you don't need

03:42:43.460 to be doing real estate.

03:42:45.320 I'm good.

03:42:46.060 I can provide.

03:42:47.500 Oh, he can provide then.

03:42:48.640 I'm still going to work because I enjoy working.

03:42:50.160 No, he says, no, no, he says, no, I don't want you to work.

03:42:54.400 Then I'm washing the dishes twice daily.

03:42:57.460 I'm going to be busy.

03:42:58.300 I have to be busy.

03:42:59.120 But you would accept, like, if a guy's... 1.00

03:43:00.780 Oh, fuck yeah. 0.99

03:43:01.600 And he says, hey, I don't want you to... 1.00

03:43:03.660 You don't want me working.

03:43:04.780 I'll just work around the house, I guess.

03:43:06.440 Oh, okay.

03:43:07.060 All right.

03:43:07.240 I'll deep clean the house every day instead of once a week, I guess.

03:43:10.800 I'd say, like, in most aspects, yeah.

03:43:12.980 Traditional?

03:43:13.760 80% traditional.

03:43:15.060 Okay.

03:43:15.800 Yeah, same.

03:43:17.100 But I...

03:43:17.380 Traditional?

03:43:18.040 Yeah.

03:43:18.400 Yeah, but I want to be fully trad wife. 0.92

03:43:21.980 Fully trad wife. 0.52

03:43:23.380 Yeah.

03:43:23.960 So, we're going to do a segment called traditional or not traditional.

03:43:28.580 What this is going to require is us pulling up all the girls' Instagrams, Nick. 1.00

03:43:33.440 If you can...

03:43:33.960 I should have maybe had you do that before.

03:43:36.620 We're going to pull up all their Instagrams, and we're going to...

03:43:39.960 Those of them who said traditional, we're going to see.

03:43:44.100 Judging off of their Instagram, are they traditional? 1.00

03:43:46.600 I've got no ass on my Insta. 0.99

03:43:48.540 Keep in mind, I said 80% traditional. 0.98

03:43:50.720 By the way, this is a squeaker over here.

03:43:53.500 I should have...

03:43:54.000 We should have swapped it out, but the chair.

03:43:56.180 Your chair is a squeaker.

03:43:57.360 I'm sorry.

03:43:58.260 I'm sorry.

03:43:58.880 It's not your squeaker.

03:44:00.240 I had an energy drink.

03:44:01.560 I have a lot of energy.

03:44:02.920 I want to run.

03:44:03.460 So, while Nick is doing that, let me see.

03:44:08.100 Okay.

03:44:08.380 On chats, we're good.

03:44:10.580 Let me just clear these out.

03:44:12.380 Did you want to do the other 1 to 10 one, or just the first one?

03:44:17.880 I don't know.

03:44:18.340 Malik. 0.76

03:44:18.960 Oh, no.

03:44:19.580 When you say that you always want to work, Malik, are you on some kind of, like, legal

03:44:25.620 type of Adderall?

03:44:27.300 No.

03:44:28.320 Everyone thinks I'm either on Adderall, or cocaine, or caffeine.

03:44:32.120 Or whatever it's called.

03:44:33.220 No, no, no.

03:44:33.720 I don't.

03:44:34.780 I have water, and I have a lot of vegetables and fruit.

03:44:38.520 I have caffeine, like, once a month, just, like, on days like this where I want more

03:44:42.160 energy.

03:44:42.700 I never do drugs.

03:44:43.900 I drink alcohol, like, on occasions, like birthdays and stuff, but, like, that's it.

03:44:48.760 Well, I mean, the only reason I ask is because I remember distinctly the last time you were

03:44:52.940 on the show, you began to eat a banana with a peel on it.

03:44:55.560 So, it made me question your sanity a little bit.

03:44:58.720 Would you like me to eat my banana again?

03:45:00.820 Oh, God.

03:45:01.900 I do carry a banana with me, because I do like eating bananas.

03:45:05.880 She has a banana purse, too.

03:45:08.080 Yes, I do.

03:45:09.460 I got this because it carries my bananas better.

03:45:11.480 Show us your banana thing.

03:45:13.040 And this is not something...

03:45:14.800 Oh, that one doesn't look right.

03:45:17.980 But I just prefer bananas.

03:45:21.140 You should wash those.

03:45:22.400 I always wash it first.

03:45:24.100 But it's in your purse.

03:45:25.020 I want to switch seats.

03:45:25.880 Oh, God.

03:45:26.620 How much bacteria is in your purse?

03:45:30.140 Do I want a bite?

03:45:31.840 She's eating it like...

03:45:33.520 He's like, what's it?

03:45:35.960 That's so gross.

03:45:37.100 I'm kind of tempted to try it, but I'm going to pass.

03:45:39.840 I will buy you a drink tonight if you take a bite.

03:45:42.620 Also, that's a, like, soft-ass banana.

03:45:45.160 No, it's probably really sweet.

03:45:46.880 Those are the kind of bananas you use to make banana bread.

03:45:49.700 Yeah.

03:45:50.200 Yeah, that's banana bread.

03:45:51.180 Not until I put it in the freezer.

03:45:52.340 Yeah.

03:45:54.200 Are you okay?

03:45:56.280 Wait, do it in the mic for ASMR sound effect.

03:45:58.560 This is, like, the most disturbing thing I've seen on the podcast.

03:46:01.960 Yes, I'm okay.

03:46:02.780 Yes, I also do have brain damage.

03:46:04.420 Superior genetics.

03:46:06.540 I've had 12 concussions.

03:46:07.400 I believe you.

03:46:07.920 You've had 12 concussions?

03:46:09.300 I've had 12 concussions.

03:46:10.640 How?

03:46:11.240 Due to what?

03:46:11.920 Did you play sports or something?

03:46:13.320 No, I didn't play sports. 0.99

03:46:14.560 I was just a dumb kid. 0.99

03:46:16.440 The first concussion I got was from a 2x4 in a slid chamber. 1.00

03:46:22.000 Me and my brother, I was about 8 years old, and he was, like, I think 5.

03:46:27.600 We want to catapult, like, rocks into the air.

03:46:30.800 So, do you mind if I set this down here?

03:46:33.040 No, you have to eat the whole thing.

03:46:34.180 I'll hold it.

03:46:35.340 I was just going to, like, use my hands to describe.

03:46:37.480 So, we wanted to catapult rocks into the air, so we went and found a bunch of rocks, like,

03:46:43.480 the size of our heads, and we took a stump, like, a log, like, maybe this big, and we cut

03:46:48.700 in half.

03:46:48.760 Can you show Andrew?

03:46:50.880 Go ahead.

03:46:51.520 Continue.

03:46:51.900 Like, you know, like a log, like a stump, right?

03:46:54.720 Oh, I see what you mean.

03:46:55.680 And we cut in half, so it was like a semicircle, and we took a 2x4, and we nailed it to it,

03:46:59.740 and then we stole our dad's sledgehammer, and we were catapulting rocks into the air,

03:47:04.100 and we were, like, taking turns, like, hitting the sledgehammer.

03:47:08.100 But I was a little kid.

03:47:09.040 I was 8 years old, and it was my turn to, like, load the sledgehammer or load the rock

03:47:13.520 onto the catapult so my brother could launch it into the air, and when I bent over to pick

03:47:18.180 up a rock, he, like, got trigger-happy, and he hit the little, like, seesaw.

03:47:22.540 Oh, my God.

03:47:23.280 Who the hell is? 0.64

03:47:26.440 You asked, and he catapulted me. 0.87

03:47:28.940 This is the first concussion.

03:47:30.420 This is 12 concussions.

03:47:31.660 It's taking you 45 seconds to...

03:47:34.960 We don't need the...

03:47:36.540 You asked me. 0.98

03:47:37.620 Yeah, I know, but, like, I don't need the fucking... 1.00

03:47:39.740 Okay, I've just got a lot of concussions from being a dumb kid. 1.00

03:47:42.120 All from being a kid? 0.99

03:47:45.840 Do you eat the stem?

03:47:47.820 Mm-mm, it's wood.

03:47:49.040 Eat it.

03:47:49.360 Eat it.

03:47:49.820 Yeah.

03:47:50.380 You have to.

03:47:50.980 Eat it.

03:47:51.400 Commit.

03:47:51.980 Who do you think is more qualified to make decisions, an 18-year-old or someone who has 0.94

03:47:56.640 had 12 concussions?

03:47:58.520 I want the girl eating the banana like that, that's for sure. 1.00

03:48:01.280 Okay, she's had a bunch of...

03:48:03.040 As someone who was once 18, I'm more qualified now.

03:48:06.460 Really?

03:48:07.100 Okay.

03:48:07.360 You had a concussion before.

03:48:07.880 How did we get it?

03:48:08.460 Yeah.

03:48:09.020 No, I actually got concussions after 18.

03:48:10.660 Nick, do you have the Instagrams already?

03:48:13.120 Let's start with... 1.00

03:48:14.760 Stop eating that fucking banana. 1.00

03:48:19.080 It's got the peel on it. 1.00

03:48:20.700 Stop.

03:48:21.420 Stop doing that.

03:48:22.200 Oh, should I just eat the peel?

03:48:23.480 Let's start with Celeste. 0.98

03:48:24.540 The peels are good for you, but you have to wash it.

03:48:27.080 I wash it.

03:48:28.260 I don't...

03:48:28.860 So this is...

03:48:30.460 We're asking the chat here, too.

03:48:32.600 Traditional or not?

03:48:34.260 It's not right.

03:48:35.860 Traditional.

03:48:36.300 I'm going to take a guess and say that it's...

03:48:38.220 Or not.

03:48:40.560 Celeste, right here.

03:48:41.580 Yeah.

03:48:42.120 I'm going to go put down this banana.

03:48:45.460 Please.

03:48:47.760 I just kind of get distracted.

03:48:49.380 I will finish it.

03:48:50.240 I'll finish it after.

03:48:51.160 All right.

03:48:53.860 Okay.

03:48:54.420 Can you put us on the other side?

03:48:55.660 Is the third video her drinking alcohol?

03:48:57.300 No, just do left...

03:48:58.760 Yeah, yeah.

03:48:59.580 No, no, no.

03:48:59.920 Left small.

03:49:00.400 Celeste knows how to party. 1.00

03:49:01.740 All right.

03:49:02.260 Oh, play the video in the top right corner.

03:49:05.640 Play that video.

03:49:06.380 This is her 2023 recap.

03:49:07.860 I mean, just play it.

03:49:10.920 You can turn it on if you want, I guess.

03:49:16.820 Actually, get rid of it.

03:49:18.920 Good.

03:49:19.160 Yeah.

03:49:20.060 Okay.

03:49:20.520 Drinking.

03:49:21.680 Partying.

03:49:22.240 At the bar.

03:49:22.720 At the club.

03:49:25.760 At the festival.

03:49:27.380 Rave.

03:49:28.460 Making out with the dog.

03:49:30.600 Halloween party.

03:49:31.640 But bars.

03:49:34.660 Drinking.

03:49:36.600 More drinking.

03:49:38.380 Making out with the dog.

03:49:39.700 Drinking.

03:49:40.300 Partying.

03:49:40.720 Making out with the neck tattoo guy.

03:49:42.560 Making out with the dog.

03:49:44.160 Partying.

03:49:44.960 Rave.

03:49:46.220 Festival.

03:49:47.320 Tattoos.

03:49:50.280 Bar.

03:49:51.980 And then, is that a...

03:49:53.300 Okay, and then go back to the IG.

03:49:56.120 Let's look at the rest of the IG, you know?

03:49:58.600 Okay, so you're at parties, festival, music festivals.

03:50:03.320 That maybe looks like a rave.

03:50:05.740 Alcohol. 0.53

03:50:07.900 Titties out.

03:50:10.240 Dog love.

03:50:11.360 The dog is good.

03:50:12.420 Like the dog.

03:50:13.120 A lot of making out with...

03:50:16.260 A lot of dog making out.

03:50:17.920 I'm a little concerned.

03:50:19.540 A lot of partying.

03:50:20.840 Bars. 0.86

03:50:21.480 Festivals.

03:50:23.320 Bikini. 0.92

03:50:23.860 Bikini photo.

03:50:25.700 Tattoo.

03:50:27.080 Whoa.

03:50:28.420 Titties out.

03:50:30.120 Another tattoo. 0.99

03:50:32.060 More titties. 1.00

03:50:34.320 Damn. 1.00

03:50:35.040 How are you scrolling? 1.00

03:50:36.440 Fake titties? 0.99

03:50:37.740 Titties, are they fake? 0.99

03:50:40.640 No.

03:50:41.320 No.

03:50:41.780 Thank you, though.

03:50:42.460 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

03:50:43.500 Hold on.

03:50:44.040 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

03:50:45.020 I have reason to believe that they're fake.

03:50:47.780 They look real.

03:50:49.020 Hold on.

03:50:49.520 That's your reason.

03:50:50.520 Thank you.

03:50:51.220 I'm looking at the photos.

03:50:53.100 They look fake.

03:50:54.040 They look real.

03:50:55.340 Wait, scroll up.

03:50:56.440 Scroll up.

03:50:57.340 Exist.

03:50:58.740 Have I failed with my fake...

03:51:01.600 The boomba?

03:51:02.800 Hold on.

03:51:03.260 Does those work?

03:51:03.900 What?

03:51:04.520 Scroll up.

03:51:05.840 Also, you scroll down to the point where people were using...

03:51:08.600 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

03:51:09.420 Hold on.

03:51:11.480 Scroll down a bit.

03:51:12.080 Why don't you write down?

03:51:13.600 Yeah.

03:51:13.860 Click the one... 0.99

03:51:15.860 Let's analyze our tits. 1.00

03:51:16.680 Middle right. 1.00

03:51:17.860 Middle right.

03:51:19.120 Middle right.

03:51:19.960 Wait a second.

03:51:21.220 Yeah.

03:51:23.760 They're real.

03:51:24.580 Yeah, they're real.

03:51:25.420 They're so real.

03:51:27.080 Yeah.

03:51:27.460 That doesn't look...

03:51:27.900 Scroll back up.

03:51:28.820 Scroll back up.

03:51:29.160 It's like a teardrop.

03:51:30.180 It's real.

03:51:30.560 It's real.

03:51:33.240 I feel like teardrops always look real.

03:51:35.240 Wait.

03:51:35.860 Show the bikini one. 0.79

03:51:37.020 They look real.

03:51:39.440 They look good.

03:51:40.280 Are those real?

03:51:40.820 Yeah, those look good.

03:51:42.080 What?

03:51:42.460 Really?

03:51:43.020 You're a little happy.

03:51:43.420 Wait.

03:51:43.700 They're really real.

03:51:44.620 Nick, show us the chat.

03:51:46.840 I don't know.

03:51:47.560 I'm going to have to do like a deep dive on this later.

03:51:50.080 Oh, my God.

03:51:51.140 I think they might be fake, son.

03:51:53.100 No, they're real. 0.99

03:51:53.640 Deep dive of her boobs? 1.00

03:51:54.840 Is that what I have to understand? 0.99

03:51:56.900 I'm going to go scan them tomorrow.

03:51:58.660 If they were fake, they would be more up.

03:52:00.220 Yeah.

03:52:00.660 They'd have a little bit more perc. 0.55

03:52:02.560 Also...

03:52:03.140 I don't know.

03:52:04.320 This is like a bad angle.

03:52:05.400 You can even analyze that.

03:52:06.400 X out.

03:52:07.300 Is the chat all saying...

03:52:08.680 Yeah, they're all saying that.

03:52:09.180 They're saying they're fake.

03:52:10.480 Thank you.

03:52:11.220 Scroll up.

03:52:11.980 They don't know. 0.97

03:52:12.880 They don't have boobs. 1.00

03:52:13.740 Scroll up. 0.95

03:52:17.220 Actually, scroll down.

03:52:18.980 Don't listen to her.

03:52:23.460 Wait.

03:52:23.880 Wait.

03:52:24.040 Wait.

03:52:24.300 Scroll down.

03:52:24.960 Scroll down.

03:52:25.360 Scroll down.

03:52:25.500 See that one with that blue top.

03:52:26.720 The blue top.

03:52:27.560 Let's see the blue top.

03:52:28.860 That's real.

03:52:30.000 Those are real.

03:52:31.020 Those are hella real.

03:52:32.760 Wait.

03:52:33.120 Put us on the other side.

03:52:34.220 Put us on the other side.

03:52:35.040 Put us on the other side.

03:52:37.860 Got to see the other tit. 0.99

03:52:40.480 Well, that's...

03:52:41.060 That's natural.

03:52:41.920 In one of the pictures, you can see one is like way more defined than the other just based

03:52:45.940 on how she was laying down.

03:52:46.580 I don't know.

03:52:47.500 My little friend.

03:52:48.820 Standing up.

03:52:49.440 She doesn't got that little table. 1.00

03:52:50.760 They're real.

03:52:51.760 She doesn't have that like reach on top. 1.00

03:52:53.300 Yeah.

03:52:54.520 Are they real or are they fake?

03:52:55.920 I love where they're just a real tit.

03:52:57.600 I feel like you can tell by the cleavage.

03:53:01.180 You're blessed.

03:53:01.920 Yeah.

03:53:03.160 Getting back. 0.98

03:53:04.260 Regardless of the fake titties or real titties. 0.98

03:53:06.640 Sorry. 1.00

03:53:06.780 We're all talking about your titties. 0.99

03:53:09.140 Traditional or not traditional? 0.98

03:53:13.180 Is she...

03:53:13.700 She said she...

03:53:14.760 In her messages to us, she claimed traditional.

03:53:18.120 I'm going to put a big no on that.

03:53:20.480 A big no.

03:53:22.020 I have... 0.99

03:53:22.480 No fucking way. 0.98

03:53:23.400 I think... 1.00

03:53:26.400 Hot take. 0.79

03:53:28.540 Hot take. 0.79

03:53:29.060 Not traditional?

03:53:30.280 Traditional.

03:53:32.160 That's all in my head.

03:53:32.960 I'm thinking not traditional.

03:53:34.440 Do you want to walk back the whole being traditional thing?

03:53:38.860 Walk back?

03:53:39.960 Well, you said...

03:53:40.940 Well, okay.

03:53:41.440 That you consider yourself traditional.

03:53:42.840 I'm...

03:53:43.540 Would...

03:53:43.860 Yes.

03:53:45.300 Are you?

03:53:45.520 I would lean more traditional.

03:53:48.100 Are you...

03:53:48.840 But I guess if you're talking in that sense...

03:53:51.780 What sense?

03:53:52.440 Of being traditional?

03:53:53.920 Of how I present myself, then...

03:53:57.260 Probably not.

03:53:58.400 I guess.

03:53:59.340 If you're speaking in that sense.

03:54:01.560 I'm a traditional man, but...

03:54:03.960 I take... 0.56

03:54:05.960 Photos with half-naked women and... 1.00

03:54:09.520 But I'm a traditional man and...

03:54:12.680 As far as my relationship...

03:54:13.340 Here's my bong and I'm partying and I'm going to clubs and...

03:54:16.980 I don't post any...

03:54:18.620 I don't do...

03:54:19.700 I don't post stuff like that.

03:54:21.560 You don't want...

03:54:22.240 Bong? 0.86

03:54:23.560 Is that what you were like trying to...

03:54:25.040 Oh, no.

03:54:25.420 I mean, I don't know if you were posting anything like that, but...

03:54:27.560 There's a lot of alcohol you see.

03:54:29.580 There is a lot of alcohol.

03:54:30.180 A lot of alcohol.

03:54:31.720 You're wearing kind of revealing outfits.

03:54:33.940 You're going to raves.

03:54:34.640 You're absolutely correct.

03:54:35.260 I'm not...

03:54:35.600 I'm not objecting to what you're trying to...

03:54:38.240 All right.

03:54:38.520 Your point that you're trying to make.

03:54:39.720 But as far as I think my relationship views, I would say they might be a little bit more

03:54:44.680 traditional.

03:54:45.660 Your relationship views.

03:54:46.980 Yes.

03:54:48.020 Does that mean when it comes to like, you know, a man paying for everything? 0.64

03:54:52.280 Is that what you mean by that?

03:54:53.480 Yeah.

03:54:54.080 Like I said, I lean more traditional in that sense.

03:54:56.620 Not necessarily paying for everything where someone needs to like, take care of me because

03:55:01.000 I would most likely work if I didn't have to as well, but to have...

03:55:07.420 Well, what does that mean traditional inside of a relationship?

03:55:12.200 Oh, man.

03:55:13.000 I guess if you...

03:55:14.620 Where the man is the head of the household and the provider.

03:55:18.900 So, like I said, I lean more towards that where I...

03:55:23.620 But I'm saying that I would work if I didn't have to.

03:55:28.680 Okay.

03:55:29.160 So, I just want to make sure I get this right.

03:55:31.500 So, when you're saying traditional inside of a relationship, you just mean you stay at

03:55:35.820 home, he pays for everything.

03:55:39.280 Oh, if you're defining that, yes.

03:55:40.960 That's why I said I lean a little bit more towards that.

03:55:42.580 But if I didn't have to, I would still.

03:55:45.180 Okay.

03:55:45.660 But I wouldn't want to be completely taken care of.

03:55:48.440 I would just rather have my significant other be someone who is a little bit more of a

03:55:53.920 provider.

03:55:54.380 Who else is traditional?

03:55:56.680 You?

03:55:57.180 Yes.

03:55:58.040 You guys?

03:55:59.360 We could do Malik's. 0.92

03:56:00.540 Let's see her Instagram. 0.93

03:56:02.840 I don't think my Instagram is bad.

03:56:05.980 Let's find it.

03:56:06.980 Let's see here.

03:56:08.740 We'll be the judge of that.

03:56:10.340 All right.

03:56:10.700 Whoa, that selfie is really exposed.

03:56:14.700 Real fake.

03:56:15.760 Yeah.

03:56:16.380 Real fake, yeah.

03:56:17.320 Are they real?

03:56:18.600 Are they fake?

03:56:19.540 Yeah.

03:56:20.060 Let's chill down.

03:56:22.280 Showing the get.

03:56:25.120 Okay.

03:56:27.720 All right.

03:56:28.800 Yep.

03:56:29.360 Looks fine.

03:56:30.900 Looks okay so far.

03:56:33.800 All right.

03:56:35.920 Okay.

03:56:36.660 That's not that.

03:56:37.300 I think that's.

03:56:38.320 I don't think that's bad.

03:56:39.280 Based off your Instagram.

03:56:40.320 I think you might pass.

03:56:42.400 You might pass.

03:56:42.960 Ish.

03:56:43.840 Ish?

03:56:44.700 Ish.

03:56:45.120 What percentage?

03:56:46.300 Could clean it up a little bit.

03:56:48.040 Ish.

03:56:49.500 Yeah.

03:56:49.900 What's up with the top right photo, Malik?

03:56:52.400 The top right photo?

03:56:53.660 Yeah.

03:56:53.960 I don't see anything.

03:56:55.120 I don't see anything wrong with that.

03:56:56.920 That dress goes almost to my knees.

03:56:59.280 I don't think it's that low cut.

03:57:00.600 It's a straight across top.

03:57:02.260 Yeah.

03:57:02.740 I went to an event.

03:57:03.760 Isn't it a thirst trap, Malik?

03:57:06.720 You posted thirst traps?

03:57:08.260 I'm thirsty.

03:57:08.780 Andrew, the entire reason of posting to Instagram or any social media is to get attention.

03:57:16.020 So, by definition, every post is a thirst trap.

03:57:19.060 Yes, I think I looked good in that picture.

03:57:20.760 That's why I posted it.

03:57:21.040 What do you mean by definition?

03:57:21.600 No, I don't think so.

03:57:22.920 What do you.

03:57:23.320 I think that a thirst trap is a woman posing sexually provocatively in order to get attention. 1.00

03:57:30.340 I don't think that was provocative.

03:57:31.220 For instance, a picture of you drinking orange juice is a thirst trap, Malik.

03:57:36.220 I think that there's a distinction, right?

03:57:38.000 I do not think any of my photos were sexual.

03:57:40.240 I don't think I was sexualizing myself in any photos.

03:57:43.060 I just, they were pictures of myself.

03:57:45.240 Yeah, but you would agree with me then.

03:57:46.920 No, I wouldn't.

03:57:48.820 Malik, let me finish what I said, or what I'm trying to say.

03:57:52.080 So, you would agree with me, though, that a thirst trap is a woman who is posting in a sexually provocative way in order to get male attention, right? 0.93

03:58:01.460 Yes, that's the definition of a thirst trap.

03:58:04.080 It's.

03:58:04.480 Yeah.

03:58:05.840 You want guys to thirst over you.

03:58:07.420 I'm just saying, the top right one looked a little bit like that's what you were trying to do, Malik.

03:58:09.720 No, I don't.

03:58:10.780 I have, I don't have any pictures in bikinis. 0.99

03:58:13.620 I have no pictures of my ass at all. 1.00

03:58:16.620 No, no, no, look, you passed the muster. 0.99

03:58:18.280 I just, I pointed out one pic, that's all.

03:58:20.820 And I don't see anything wrong with that picture.

03:58:23.220 But thank you for pointing it out.

03:58:26.220 Beautiful.

03:58:27.600 You're welcome.

03:58:30.120 Maddie, could you read this?

03:58:31.980 Bro, that story gave me CTE.

03:58:33.740 I want to smell the Renaissance Fairchick's chair once she leaves. 1.00

03:58:37.440 Whoa.

03:58:38.660 What?

03:58:40.320 Which CTE?

03:58:40.780 And that's four.

03:58:42.080 I think me telling how I got CTE.

03:58:44.520 Oh, I see.

03:58:45.300 That was just one of the 12, but I'll save y'all the additional CTE.

03:58:49.860 Thank you for the 69 message, man.

03:58:53.360 Appreciate it.

03:58:53.940 Thank you, thank you.

03:58:54.580 All right.

03:58:55.860 Let's move on.

03:58:57.020 Unless, was there somebody else?

03:58:58.200 Were you traditional?

03:58:59.140 I said traditional.

03:58:59.560 Yeah, low key.

03:59:01.020 I mean, I'm.

03:59:01.920 Let's just do her IG and then we'll move on.

03:59:05.140 Malia's also Chad.

03:59:06.320 Oh, okay.

03:59:07.000 We'll do her and then her and then we'll just move. 0.93

03:59:08.560 We'll just move.

03:59:08.980 We don't have enough time.

03:59:11.400 I don't know.

03:59:11.740 I mean, there's parts of mine where I'm like, eh.

03:59:15.720 I'm tried at home.

03:59:18.040 Would you say you're off to today's traditional?

03:59:20.440 Try to do.

03:59:20.800 There's a difference between claiming traditional and valuing traditional.

03:59:23.360 Yo, thank you, AB Check, for the gift of 20 memberships.

03:59:26.040 I value traditional for sure.

03:59:30.880 What's up?

03:59:32.360 Yeah, let's do Bella.

03:59:35.420 That's not me.

03:59:36.200 That's not me.

03:59:36.880 That's not me.

03:59:38.020 That's not you?

03:59:38.760 No, that's not me. 0.99

03:59:39.480 Why are you crazy? 0.99

03:59:40.100 Whoa, whoa. 0.99

03:59:41.000 No, I'm in.

03:59:42.280 That's not you?

03:59:43.140 No, that's not me.

03:59:44.060 That's not your Instagram?

03:59:45.100 That is my Instagram, but that video is not me.

03:59:46.920 Okay.

03:59:49.060 That middle video is not me.

03:59:50.780 Loose Pussy Energy donated $100.

03:59:53.780 First of all, she ain't traditional. 0.97

03:59:56.560 Typical modern day 304s. 1.00

03:59:59.480 Second, fake teagull bitties.

04:00:01.940 If it's real, take off the shirt and prove it.

04:00:05.220 Number 304s love chat crackheads. 1.00

04:00:08.900 Hashtag get the rocks.

04:00:10.100 Number 8 at 18.

04:00:11.340 Hashtag grand thrusts.

04:00:13.180 Get the rocks.

04:00:14.520 Abdul.

04:00:15.460 Yeah, get the rocks.

04:00:16.320 Half of this panel is celibate.

04:00:18.100 What do you mean you ran through?

04:00:20.100 I appreciate the compliment.

04:00:22.780 I've gotten that in the past, but I can, you know, 100% claim that they are not.

04:00:28.120 And I'm also scared of, like, surgeries in general.

04:00:31.220 So I don't think even if I wanted to, I wouldn't.

04:00:34.540 Surgeries can kill you. 0.99

04:00:36.560 We've had girls come on the show before claiming they don't have fake titties. 1.00

04:00:42.800 Well, I'm not one of them. 0.99

04:00:43.600 But they got fake titties. 0.93

04:00:44.360 Actually, Andrew was on that show. 0.99

04:00:47.540 Andrew, do you remember that Twitch girl who, uh, she was, like, Russian or some shit? 1.00

04:00:52.880 I think it was, like... 0.89

04:00:53.580 Yeah, yeah.

04:00:54.540 I remember her, the weirdo chick. 0.97

04:00:57.860 Yeah, who's kind of just, um...

04:00:59.960 I forgot her name.

04:01:00.940 Mira?

04:01:02.220 Yeah.

04:01:02.740 Oh, yeah.

04:01:03.400 She, like... 0.99

04:01:04.140 She had fake titties. 1.00

04:01:07.040 And she's like, no, I don't. 0.99

04:01:09.740 Yeah, totally lying through her...

04:01:12.160 Totally. 0.99

04:01:12.560 Light her ass off that whole show. 1.00

04:01:13.740 Totally.

04:01:14.140 Yo, Flann Life, thanks for the gifted 10, uh, memberships.

04:01:16.800 I appreciate it.

04:01:17.820 But...

04:01:18.220 And I will say, I understand a reason for her to lie.

04:01:21.300 She has no reason to lie about it.

04:01:22.900 Like, she doesn't do all of content. 0.56

04:01:24.800 She doesn't... 1.00

04:01:25.220 What?

04:01:25.820 I said thank you.

04:01:26.700 No, like, I think...

04:01:28.020 What do you mean she doesn't have a reason to lie? 0.99

04:01:30.260 Like, you're accusing her of having fake tits, but she would have no reason... 1.00

04:01:34.560 Versus a Twitch streamer who presents herself... 1.00

04:01:37.000 Just naturally. 0.99

04:01:37.860 ...and her tits says her thumbnail almost every day. 1.00

04:01:40.120 Like, I can understand her wanting to protect her own online image and saying, hey, they're 0.99

04:01:44.380 real.

04:01:45.020 But she has no reason to lie.

04:01:49.080 Well, I could probably think of reasons why she could have reasons to lie.

04:01:54.260 Such as?

04:01:54.900 I could be wrong, though.

04:01:55.860 I mean, I don't know.

04:01:56.420 I haven't done a thorough enough investigation.

04:01:59.580 A lot of people also... 0.77

04:02:00.780 Can we not focus too much on the titties? 0.94

04:02:02.900 I feel...

04:02:03.520 Look, I'm not 100% set.

04:02:05.880 I have...

04:02:06.700 I have questions. 0.84

04:02:08.140 I feel like you're focused on the titties. 0.97

04:02:10.600 I'm not focused on the titties. 0.99

04:02:11.840 You guys keep talking about the titties. 0.95

04:02:13.360 He's like, zoom in to that.

04:02:14.760 No, like 30 seconds.

04:02:16.100 I was responding to the donation.

04:02:18.120 I have doubts, but I could be wrong.

04:02:21.200 I could be wrong.

04:02:22.360 I like to think I have a good fake titty radar, but maybe in this one time in my whole 0.97

04:02:27.220 life, I've been wrong once when it came to the fake titties. 0.97

04:02:30.520 Once? 0.85

04:02:30.700 I don't know.

04:02:32.020 And if that's true, then it's probably a compliment to her, I guess.

04:02:35.120 I don't know.

04:02:36.040 Anyways, let's read this.

04:02:37.820 Madison, can you read it? 0.98

04:02:38.500 I'll shut the F up. 0.99

04:02:39.180 Being five foot tall is my fault. 0.99

04:02:40.800 I'll just grow taller if I want to be with the woman. 1.00

04:02:42.740 Listen, this last $50 is for the Chilean general to invade Canada to save me of the 0.77

04:02:47.300 communist Trudeau tyranny.

04:02:50.560 $200.

04:02:52.540 Canadian?

04:02:52.920 Canadian, yeah.

04:02:53.980 It's like $350.

04:02:55.320 I can confirm that the non-speaking soldier in the background, I have talked with him,

04:03:01.520 and he is a hater of the Trudeau.

04:03:03.900 I can confirm that that's true.

04:03:05.700 Do you want, can you, I know it's, do you want to respond in Spanish?

04:03:13.160 Un poquito espanol, por favor.

04:03:16.780 Si.

04:03:21.160 That's what, he's a man of few words.

04:03:24.040 You know, he's a stoic.

04:03:25.700 He's a soldier.

04:03:26.400 Sure.

04:03:27.600 Okay.

04:03:28.140 All right.

04:03:29.200 Thank you there, the official prince.

04:03:31.020 Where were we?

04:03:31.820 Oh, we did, we'll do your Instagram really quick, then we'll move on.

04:03:35.400 Senior Nick, por favor, pull up the L Instagram.

04:03:41.860 The L Instagram.

04:03:42.480 Oh, we were still on this.

04:03:43.520 Okay, okay, okay.

04:03:45.040 Scroll down.

04:03:47.880 Okay.

04:03:49.280 Uh, oh, yep.

04:03:50.940 Okay.

04:03:51.680 There's that.

04:03:53.760 Uh-huh.

04:03:54.920 Okay.

04:03:58.000 Okay.

04:04:01.780 Eh, you know.

04:04:05.060 It's a little, uh, a little iffy, maybe.

04:04:08.280 She said those aren't.

04:04:08.920 Traditional, so for the chat.

04:04:10.680 Traditional or not traditional?

04:04:12.160 Because the bikini one isn't me.

04:04:13.600 Okay, so fine.

04:04:14.660 Yeah, that bikini one is not me.

04:04:16.480 For the record. 1.00

04:04:16.880 The third one, though, is, uh, check out my ass, the... 0.99

04:04:20.900 The Renaissance donated $100. 0.99

04:04:25.500 Oh, my gosh.

04:04:26.180 The RO, I will legit marry the Renaissance fair chick. 1.00

04:04:29.800 I'll smell her chair as consolation if I am turned down.

04:04:34.460 Whoa.

04:04:36.540 So I have to accept her.

04:04:37.560 He smells my chair, it sounds like.

04:04:38.880 Win-win.

04:04:39.460 Someone has my chair.

04:04:40.300 Yeah.

04:04:42.480 Got me in a trap right there.

04:04:44.220 You might be dating sooner than you think.

04:04:46.120 Yeah. 1.00

04:04:46.260 You're screwed, bud. 1.00

04:04:48.660 If you do a champagne pop, Maddie will smell it on your behalf. 1.00

04:04:52.800 That's wild, yeah.

04:04:54.420 I'll smell it.

04:04:55.940 Whoa.

04:04:56.720 Please.

04:04:57.120 Yeah, she's her friend.

04:04:58.140 Let her smell it.

04:04:58.320 Okay.

04:04:59.260 Her Instagram, please.

04:05:01.640 Who's that?

04:05:02.100 Lomole?

04:05:02.820 Yeah.

04:05:04.080 Sorry.

04:05:04.560 Lomole.

04:05:05.820 Molia.

04:05:07.000 Molia.

04:05:07.360 Give me one minute.

04:05:09.060 It's really not worth looking at.

04:05:12.120 While we're waiting on that, you said you think a lot of people end up going through an unhealthy

04:05:16.400 attachment and one detrimental relationship.

04:05:19.300 Oh, no.

04:05:19.580 This is back to you.

04:05:21.420 In order to get to a point to understand how to be okay as a single individual.

04:05:24.760 No, I think I'm, so, okay.

04:05:32.280 My wording on that, I don't, I feel like I wish I would have reworded that because I

04:05:37.600 don't feel, I don't feel like it's necessary to be okay as a single individual.

04:05:42.980 But I feel like the majority of the people that you speak to probably and most likely

04:05:50.020 have gone through one attachment, unhealthy attachment in some kind of relationship.

04:05:55.980 And it kind of goes back to not that I believe in like the three loves of your life, but that

04:06:01.300 second one that everybody goes through that's, you know, toxic and unhealthy and you learn

04:06:06.280 who you are and what you want.

04:06:09.220 That's what I kind of mean.

04:06:10.460 I feel like there's a healthy amount of people out there that go through some kind of unhealthy

04:06:17.360 attachment.

04:06:19.360 Audio's muted.

04:06:22.720 Word.

04:06:24.000 Yeah, I wasn't trying to chime in.

04:06:25.620 I'm sorry.

04:06:26.300 No, no, it's okay.

04:06:27.900 Instagram, Nick.

04:06:30.280 All right, this is Malia. 0.89

04:06:31.980 I haven't posted in like two years.

04:06:33.800 This is our friend Malia.

04:06:36.200 I'm not much of a poster.

04:06:39.040 It's not bad.

04:06:39.580 No.

04:06:39.880 All right.

04:06:40.840 Wait, show them the last picture, though.

04:06:42.340 I think they'll like it.

04:06:43.500 No, the first, like most recent one.

04:06:45.540 Scroll through it.

04:06:46.940 It's her with a gun. 0.97

04:06:48.160 It's me with a gun.

04:06:49.160 She wants to show off the gun. 1.00

04:06:51.540 Okay.

04:06:52.640 Cool.

04:06:53.900 So traditional or not traditional.

04:06:56.180 Traditional or not traditional.

04:06:58.060 So moving on.

04:06:59.420 We have Drax.

04:07:02.100 Drax on fire.

04:07:03.460 Drax on fire.

04:07:03.940 You said you don't know how to date after divorce.

04:07:06.500 Dating scene is weird now. 0.99

04:07:07.580 Online dating sucks. 0.97

04:07:09.100 Everything seems to be transactional and disposable. 0.99

04:07:12.320 Meeting people who know what their dating style is.

04:07:15.660 I feel like everyone is always looking for the greener grass, swiping left and right.

04:07:20.120 Yep.

04:07:20.640 Yeah.

04:07:20.980 You want to expand a little bit?

04:07:24.740 I mean, like I had said earlier, it's kind of tough to date after marriage.

04:07:33.340 Um, although my situation with that partner was tough in general, now dating, like people

04:07:44.200 don't really meet in person anymore.

04:07:46.560 Um, and so this online dating concept is, it's difficult because like we had mentioned earlier,

04:07:55.440 the conversations die down so freaking fast.

04:07:58.200 It's one, most people only want to, uh, be on those dating apps to sleep with people.

04:08:05.120 And if you're one of those individuals that don't partake in hookup culture, um, you start

04:08:12.020 with that conversation and then within like the first couple sentences, they realize that

04:08:18.020 you're not really about it and it just like either dies down or they try to play it off

04:08:22.800 like, oh yeah, it's no big deal.

04:08:24.980 I'm not trying to sleep with you, but in reality they are.

04:08:27.260 And I mean, I know what, what I'm looking for, but then you find a lot of people that are

04:08:33.840 like, oh, well, um, I'm still trying to figure out my dating goals and you're in your like

04:08:38.500 mid thirties trying to figure out what it is that you want in a partner.

04:08:43.340 So, um, I don't know.

04:08:45.380 It's just like, it's weird overall.

04:08:47.780 Um, most of the people that I meet, most of the people that I meet only want to hook up

04:08:53.200 or they want to hook up and then see where that leads.

04:08:57.040 And I'm just like, not about it.

04:08:58.580 It's, it's tough.

04:08:59.460 It's difficult.

04:09:00.660 Part of it is my fault.

04:09:01.780 I don't really put a lot of effort into meeting people in person.

04:09:04.700 Um, so maybe that's part of it, but I also don't want to like go out and meet people

04:09:09.740 at the bar or the club.

04:09:11.560 I have a question.

04:09:12.980 You go to a lot of music festivals, right?

04:09:14.940 I do.

04:09:15.440 Have you ever had any luck meeting anybody in person there?

04:09:17.980 Um, so yes, but they're like, what do people call them?

04:09:24.040 Rave based, right?

04:09:25.260 You go, you meet and they're like, wow, they're having such a good time and you're partying

04:09:29.880 or whatever.

04:09:30.280 But afterwards, a lot of them live like out of the state, out of the country, or you kind

04:09:36.780 of just like, I don't know what, within the whole having fun, you don't get their number.

04:09:42.360 Maybe, um, I don't know what the following day, they just don't message you back.

04:09:46.740 And it's just like a, while you're there type situation.

04:09:55.380 This is totally unrelated, but when you were, during your introduction, you said that with

04:10:01.120 some of these hookups, they'd be like, try to kick you out after having sex. 1.00

04:10:06.120 You felt it was impersonal.

04:10:08.480 Yeah.

04:10:08.920 So, um, during the time that I separated, I wasn't sleeping or like seeing anybody.

04:10:14.180 Um, I ended up kind of sort of dating one of, uh, people that were like in our friend

04:10:20.620 group or whatever and never really led anywhere.

04:10:23.020 But it was, it always felt to me like, um, you sleep with that person.

04:10:27.120 Well, the difference is, is I don't overtly claim that I'm traditional.

04:10:36.360 Well, the difference is, is I don't overtly claim that I'm traditional.

04:10:50.800 I don't think I've ever claimed that.

04:10:52.240 Um, so it's like, you know, these OF girls who come on the show or these porn stars, well,

04:10:58.780 I'm traditional.

04:10:59.680 Well, no, it's actually, you're not.

04:11:01.840 Whereas if they just claimed, oh yeah, I'm a modern woman, I wouldn't really like, there's

04:11:07.680 nothing to push back on there.

04:11:08.880 Um, so I don't really make claims that I'm like this, this paragon of tradition.

04:11:16.040 There are some components of me that I think are traditional.

04:11:19.300 Um, but yeah, I'm not, I don't believe in waiting until marriage.

04:11:23.100 Um, I don't play video games actually.

04:11:26.200 I used to play video games, but I haven't played video games since, uh, 2020.

04:11:30.200 2020, but I mean, I have, I have a knowledge of it cause I used to play, so I'll make video

04:11:36.660 game references.

04:11:38.160 Um, so playing video games, maybe not traditional.

04:11:41.560 Yeah.

04:11:43.040 Yeah.

04:11:43.480 Well, I mean, uh, I don't know where video games really come into that, but, um, I don't,

04:11:49.640 yeah, I don't really make it a habit to be like, oh, again, I'm, I don't proclaim myself

04:11:56.720 to be, you know, like some paragon of tradition.

04:12:00.920 Would you consider yourself traditional then?

04:12:03.120 Yes or no?

04:12:05.060 Uh, in some ways, yes.

04:12:09.740 But again, I'm not out here being like, yeah, I'm like trying to, trying to claim being traditional.

04:12:15.960 Perhaps in some ways I am, in other ways I'm not.

04:12:18.420 Like I'm not waiting till marriage to have sex and, um, but, um, yeah.

04:12:25.700 I'm not really trying to defend, but it's because you ask all of the girls on the panel,

04:12:30.440 do you consider yourself traditional?

04:12:32.000 Yes or no?

04:12:32.720 Yeah.

04:12:33.140 And they're not going out and like on their socials and stuff claiming like, oh, I'm a

04:12:37.300 traditional woman, subscribe to my OnlyFans. 1.00

04:12:39.640 It's just, you ask a yes or no question and then like, you're not traditional.

04:12:44.180 Well, in the pre, in the pre-show casting questions we ask, do you consider yourself feminist or

04:12:49.660 traditional?

04:12:50.080 So usually I'll only give pushback if a girl who likes, she does, she's outwardly does

04:12:55.440 not appear to be a tradition, traditional, or she's involved in sex work and claims to

04:12:59.880 be traditional.

04:13:00.760 That's usually where my pushback stems from.

04:13:03.280 And, and I understand that, but feminist and traditional are not opposites.

04:13:07.180 They're two separate things.

04:13:08.560 Yeah.

04:13:08.780 No, they're opposites.

04:13:09.900 They're opposites.

04:13:10.900 So you said you wouldn't fully consider yourself traditional.

04:13:14.360 So that means you're feminist? 1.00

04:13:17.400 No.

04:13:17.800 It means you just said they're opposites.

04:13:19.260 Is that the only two?

04:13:19.700 That, well, so, so just because two things are opposite of each other doesn't mean if

04:13:24.160 you're not one of those things that would immediately make you the other, that would be a logical

04:13:28.140 Malik. 0.76

04:13:29.320 Isn't that the definition?

04:13:31.040 Well, feminism is in its most generous sense is advocating for women. 1.00

04:13:38.940 Yes.

04:13:39.140 So.

04:13:40.520 Well, no, feminist is that men and women are equal. 1.00

04:13:43.860 Yes.

04:13:44.080 In my questionnaire, I'm like, do you consider yourself traditional or more feminist?

04:13:50.420 I see what you're coming from.

04:13:51.580 But as far as me, no, I'm not feminist at all.

04:13:55.640 I might actually lean more egalitarian, which I prefer over feminism. 1.00

04:14:00.440 But egalitarian is feminist. 1.00

04:14:02.900 No, it's not.

04:14:03.540 A matriarchy. 1.00

04:14:04.200 It's not.

04:14:04.700 I think is what you're thinking, but matriarchy is not feminist because in a matriarchy, the 1.00

04:14:09.840 woman versus like a patriarchy. 1.00

04:14:12.020 Well, we have a gynocentric society. 0.83

04:14:15.400 Yes.

04:14:15.840 But in a feminist society or an egalitarian society, men and women are equal.

04:14:21.340 I believe it in patriarchy.

04:14:22.980 But that's not what feminism is. 1.00

04:14:25.200 Feminism is that men and women are equal. 1.00

04:14:26.920 No, it's not.

04:14:27.660 Yes, it is.

04:14:28.260 No, it's not.

04:14:29.020 Yes, it is.

04:14:29.820 No, it's about securing rights.

04:14:32.580 It's not that women are better. 0.99

04:14:33.660 It's securing privileges for women. 1.00

04:14:35.940 So that they're equal to men?

04:14:38.960 No, actually, because, for example, in a scenario where feminists are seeking equality, they 1.00

04:14:47.600 will only seek that equality if it somehow stands to benefit women.

04:14:52.220 If seeking some form of equality would actually come to the detriment of women, feminists will 1.00

04:14:57.320 not seek it.

04:14:58.100 So it's not equality between men and women because feminists would be in the streets fighting 1.00

04:15:02.820 for equalization of selective service and the draft.

04:15:07.040 It's supremacy.

04:15:08.820 It's female supremacy is the ultimate goal of feminism. 1.00

04:15:12.660 Is it, though?

04:15:13.800 Now it is.

04:15:14.680 It is.

04:15:15.080 It is, though.

04:15:15.940 Yeah.

04:15:16.980 It's about security.

04:15:17.680 That's why not a single one of you at the table is going to identify.

04:15:18.860 My understanding of feminism is. 1.00

04:15:20.140 I can prove it to you right now.

04:15:22.080 Equality.

04:15:23.240 Is anybody at this table going to identify as a fourth-wave feminist? 0.92

04:15:26.360 Yeah, that's what I thought, and that's because it's, they're all female supremacists. 1.00

04:15:33.200 But how many of you would identify as a first-wave or second-wave feminist? 0.99

04:15:38.160 It's like original feminists? 1.00

04:15:39.920 Yeah.

04:15:40.520 Yeah.

04:15:42.260 Like basically all of you, right?

04:15:44.040 So that's the, that's the distinction, right?

04:15:46.080 So you move along the pathway.

04:15:48.380 Well, maybe not you, Malik, but almost every other woman here does. 0.97

04:15:51.580 And the reason for this is because, yes, feminism becomes about female supremacy. 1.00

04:15:57.360 That is, that's actually what was in the doctrine originally for feminism was a move towards female supremacy. 1.00

04:16:04.040 It wasn't enough that they were equal with men because men are a bunch of violent predators, Malik, 0.80

04:16:09.780 who are always after young women and things like this. 0.93

04:16:12.720 So they absolutely had to get these evil men who were just ultra-violent lunatics under control.

04:16:20.540 This is on all of the feminist doctrine, and you know this, by the way. 0.90

04:16:25.880 I will fact-check you after the show because I doubt Brian is going to want to pull up the definitions now, but I disagree.

04:16:32.800 What do you mean?

04:16:32.860 What definitions?

04:16:33.960 Of feminism? 0.93

04:16:34.620 That feminism is for female supremacy. 1.00

04:16:36.240 Well, let's look at what's actually in practice.

04:16:38.500 Okay, but I'm not talking about Twitter warriors.

04:16:40.960 What do you mean, Twitter warriors?

04:16:41.260 I'm not talking about people who live on Twitter and type, oh, women should control this and all that, 1.00

04:16:45.600 or like the online representation.

04:16:47.000 So what?

04:16:47.640 Like feminism, I am not a feminist.

04:16:49.540 I'm against feminism, for the record, but the core of feminism is equality, not female supremacy. 0.99

04:16:55.480 Well, hold on.

04:16:56.040 Do you think that the feminism that they teach in universities, for example, and mind you,

04:17:01.440 in every single institution of higher education, there's some sort of women's studies or feminist studies course, 1.00

04:17:09.780 or even majors, right?

04:17:10.980 Every single institution in this country.

04:17:13.180 There's no corresponding men's studies or, you know, whatever.

04:17:17.080 There's not really a men's rights courses, whatever it might be.

04:17:21.640 What do you think they are teaching women in these courses? 1.00

04:17:25.740 I don't know.

04:17:26.640 Let me ask you a question.

04:17:27.300 Do you think they're teaching patriarchy theory in these courses?

04:17:29.740 Of course not, because patriarchy is not equivalent.

04:17:34.960 Feminism would be an egalitarian society where it's equal. 1.00

04:17:39.560 Patriarchy theory is a core tenant of, patriarchy theory is a core tenant of feminist ideology. 1.00

04:17:47.500 And it's taught in universities.

04:17:49.160 It's wrong, and it should be egalitarian, not that it should be a matriarchy where it's a, a matriarchy would be females. 1.00

04:17:58.180 No, you're talking, Malik, you're confusing classic liberalism with feminism.

04:18:03.140 When you're talking about egalitarianism, you're talking about, like, John Locke-style egalitarian doctrine.

04:18:09.360 Like, traditional liberalism is what you're pointing at, not feminism. 0.95

04:18:13.520 Feminism does teach patriarchy theory, and it teaches it from standpoint theory. 1.00

04:18:19.540 It's saying that men are evil, ultra-violent lunatics and have to be brought under control. 0.71

04:18:25.460 That is what it teaches, and that's what its original founders push. 0.72

04:18:31.020 I mean, I can give you a massive list, or you can just buy a cult feminism and read it for yourself, Malik. 1.00

04:18:35.940 Read it for yourself.

04:18:36.660 For the sake of argument, then.

04:18:37.840 For the sake of argument.

04:18:38.180 I said I would fact-check there, but can we just pull up the definition of feminism? 1.00

04:18:41.780 It doesn't matter, really, what the definition is.

04:18:44.800 Because that's what I'm referring to.

04:18:46.140 I don't care what they teach, and I don't know what they teach.

04:18:48.920 If all institutions of higher education, which, by the way, I think it's 60% of college students are women now. 1.00

04:18:56.520 So more women are getting fed these lies in these institutions. 1.00

04:19:01.060 If they're teaching patriarchy theory, which basically states that men as a class, as a gender, are oppressors, and women are oppressed, that's a really hateful thing to teach swaths of women.

04:19:15.460 Go ahead.

04:19:15.940 Here you go.

04:19:16.700 Fourth wave feminism. 1.00

04:19:18.220 Fourth wave feminism is a feminist movement that began in the 2010s, and it's characterized by a focus on the empowerment of women and the use of intersectionality and internet tools. 0.99

04:19:29.300 Seeking greater gender equality.

04:19:32.440 Equality.

04:19:32.720 Now, intersectionality, as you might note, Malik, is what?

04:19:36.640 What is intersectionality?

04:19:38.520 Yeah, Malik.

04:19:39.660 So, I believe that intersex is both sex. 0.90

04:19:43.320 What?

04:19:44.020 I don't know what I'm referring to on that level.

04:19:47.100 Not intersex, intersectionality.

04:19:50.240 Intersectionality.

04:19:50.900 Okay.

04:19:51.340 I am not a feminist. 0.99

04:19:53.040 I have no knowledge on feminism other than the bare minimum. 1.00

04:19:56.680 Well, then why are you trying to tell us what the fuck it is, Malik? 0.83

04:19:59.620 Because he's saying, you guys are telling me that you're either feminist or traditional, and Brian just said he's neither. 0.98

04:20:06.300 No.

04:20:06.780 No.

04:20:07.180 Didn't say either or.

04:20:08.320 Didn't say you're feminist or traditional, but that if you identify as being traditional and you're not identifying as being a feminist, very easy for us to make a determination if you're traditional or not.

04:20:17.280 That's it.

04:20:18.580 Checkmate.

04:20:18.900 If you're not one, that wouldn't even follow.

04:20:21.560 That makes no sense.

04:20:22.680 I do not see either of you correct in this manner, but you guys are going to keep framing this.

04:20:28.640 Play it louder.

04:20:29.740 Play it louder.

04:20:35.360 You are wrong.

04:20:36.620 You're wrong.

04:20:38.320 Wait, going around the table really quick.

04:20:40.340 Do you consider yourself a feminist? 1.00

04:20:42.140 Well, if you describe it as supremacy, no.

04:20:44.180 I think it's...

04:20:45.060 Well, your sense of the word feminist. 1.00

04:20:47.080 Equity is fairness.

04:20:48.080 Equity or equality? 0.53

04:20:50.760 Equity.

04:20:51.440 Equity.

04:20:52.040 Yes.

04:20:52.820 I don't think we are completely the same and completely equal.

04:20:55.740 I think you can acknowledge the differences in...

04:20:57.880 Isn't equity worse than equality?

04:20:59.980 Fairness?

04:21:01.820 Equity is the idea of fairness.

04:21:03.540 Is it?

04:21:04.080 Yeah.

04:21:05.420 To a certain extent.

04:21:07.420 Okay.

04:21:08.240 Do you consider yourself a feminist? 1.00

04:21:10.020 Not what feminists stand for now. 1.00

04:21:12.580 Okay.

04:21:13.180 What about you?

04:21:13.720 Definitely not a fourth wave feminist. 1.00

04:21:15.240 I'm not sure.

04:21:15.960 What about just in general?

04:21:17.160 Are you a feminist in general? 1.00

04:21:19.100 I don't feel oppressed, no.

04:21:20.920 Oh, okay.

04:21:21.640 No.

04:21:23.340 No.

04:21:24.320 Not then, not now.

04:21:26.100 Okay, so feminist, not a feminist. 1.00

04:21:29.180 No.

04:21:29.540 But feminist. 0.99

04:21:30.620 So let's bring it to you really quick.

04:21:33.700 Going around the table, actually, are women oppressed? 1.00

04:21:37.540 I think yes.

04:21:39.480 Okay.

04:21:41.340 Malia, don't laugh at your friend here.

04:21:42.960 Sorry, we had this debate already.

04:21:44.300 We had this whole...

04:21:45.220 Okay.

04:21:45.880 Are women oppressed? 1.00

04:21:46.620 Not in the U.S. 0.99

04:21:48.060 Yeah, not in the U.S.

04:21:49.760 No, not in the U.S.

04:21:51.220 Not in the U.S. 0.99

04:21:52.080 Not in the U.S. 0.99

04:21:54.780 What am I?

04:21:55.140 Are women oppressed? 1.00

04:21:56.220 No.

04:21:57.220 No.

04:21:58.420 So, you think women are oppressed in the U.S.? 1.00

04:22:02.000 I think they can be, yeah.

04:22:03.180 How?

04:22:03.480 Well, I'm glad you brought this up.

04:22:06.600 A big one is...

04:22:08.000 I'm super glad you brought it up.

04:22:09.900 A big one is the whole Blizzard case with the lawsuit with California.

04:22:14.900 You're a big Blizzard fan, World of Warcraft.

04:22:17.680 Okay.

04:22:18.100 The state of California sued Blizzard, right, because of the unequal treatment of women in 0.93

04:22:23.740 the workplace.

04:22:24.960 Same exact jobs, same exact positions, and they were getting paid way less than the men.

04:22:30.640 Has that been settled yet?

04:22:32.840 That case?

04:22:34.140 I have not been keeping up with it, but the original filing of it, I read the whole thing.

04:22:38.260 Well, so, I mean, you can't just put forward a complaint and say that because a complaint

04:22:43.740 was made, that that means that therefore complaint was true.

04:22:47.620 That would be absurd, right?

04:22:49.080 You would never do that.

04:22:50.240 That would be absurd to you.

04:22:51.680 Can I also ask you?

04:22:52.540 It's the state of California.

04:22:54.020 You don't think they would have like...

04:22:55.500 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.

04:22:56.440 Hold on, hold on.

04:22:56.880 So, if the state of California files a criminal complaint against you, and they've alleged

04:23:04.860 that you've murdered somebody, but you know you didn't, but because it's the state of California,

04:23:09.700 surely why would they proceed with a prosecution unless they knew you were guilty?

04:23:15.920 So, do you not believe in innocence until proven guilty?

04:23:20.440 Okay.

04:23:20.800 On a corporation level, though, this is not like a one person, like he said, she said.

04:23:25.840 This is a huge corporation where you would think, again, I guess I'm assuming, but you

04:23:31.560 would think they have a little more evidence than like one whistleblower.

04:23:34.860 Well, so what specific, because I've heard some stuff about Blizzard, is it related to

04:23:42.120 pay?

04:23:42.560 Is it related?

04:23:43.300 I think there was some sexual harassment allegations.

04:23:49.140 Andrew asked you, though, has it been settled?

04:23:54.100 Because this sounds like a civil case that's been brought against Blizzard.

04:23:56.880 It's not clear to me.

04:23:57.580 So, just so you know, the background in it is it was settled.

04:24:01.080 I think it was, yeah.

04:24:01.800 But the determination here, really, though, is not whether or not it was, but why in the

04:24:07.940 world do you use that as evidence for discrimination if you didn't even know that it was?

04:24:12.860 Well, I was about to say, I remember, I think, reading a headline that they settled with a

04:24:17.400 huge, like...

04:24:18.180 But so, how is this...

04:24:19.300 Oh, now, wait.

04:24:19.960 Now suddenly you remember that they settled after I told you that they settled.

04:24:21.860 Is this a good argument?

04:24:23.300 After I told you that they settled.

04:24:24.120 Isn't that convenient?

04:24:25.520 But is that a good argument for the, like...

04:24:28.240 It's not a good argument to say, I remember that a complaint was brought up.

04:24:31.680 And so, therefore, I think that women are oppressed. 1.00

04:24:34.240 That seems absurd.

04:24:35.480 Can I actually ask a question, too?

04:24:37.620 Because it was the topic of, are women oppressed? 0.99

04:24:41.920 Is it more so that it's just inequity?

04:24:44.340 Or would you genuinely consider something like that as oppression?

04:24:49.020 Because there is a big difference between oppression and just inequity.

04:24:51.880 Well, I think, in the general sense, I think inequity can be oppression, depending on...

04:25:00.400 I guess, so, I guess, to make it more specific, is unequal pay?

04:25:05.700 Octopus Tetro donated $100.

04:25:08.720 Miss JoJo, whom I find so attractive, the fact that a legal complaint is filed doesn't mean

04:25:15.200 that the opponent is guilty.

04:25:17.060 We have the right of innocence until proven guilty.

04:25:20.080 Sure.

04:25:20.360 So, let the file conclude.

04:25:22.460 Not only that, but...

04:25:23.600 The file did conclude.

04:25:24.820 You, like, backed up my point.

04:25:27.480 Hang on, I'm going through the complaint here as well.

04:25:29.480 And this was actually a direct settlement.

04:25:33.500 So, they settled with them because they didn't want to go through the court costs, according

04:25:37.520 to the Activision, of trying to take on the state in this massive court case.

04:25:42.720 But they admitted no wrongdoing, according to this settlement.

04:25:45.840 So, the question, again, becomes, even if you settle because of court costs, that still

04:25:51.360 is not necessarily an indication of wrongdoing.

04:25:53.520 So, what Brian is asking you specifically here is, what are the things that you would

04:25:59.220 point to that would show that women are not equal to men inside of American society? 0.96

04:26:04.120 Oh, my God.

04:26:05.380 And you don't like the World of Warcraft blizzard?

04:26:10.300 It's not clear if that's evidenced of widespread oppression because, like, you can...

04:26:15.000 Not even clear that it's oppression in this case.

04:26:16.860 Right.

04:26:17.260 Exactly.

04:26:17.340 It's not even clear.

04:26:18.300 In this case, it's oppression.

04:26:20.080 So, any examples that you could give that we could dive into, I'm literally happy to

04:26:26.640 entertain any of them.

04:26:27.860 Besides that one.

04:26:30.780 Well, you can do...

04:26:32.380 Let me ask you one question before you give an example.

04:26:34.740 Are you oppressed?

04:26:36.240 I'm not saying me personally.

04:26:37.860 Well, you said women. 0.99

04:26:39.040 You're a woman, right?

04:26:39.860 I think there are cases of women being oppressed. 0.99

04:26:41.660 That's what I said.

04:26:44.300 Well, the question was sort of a general one.

04:26:46.380 Yeah.

04:26:46.480 Are women oppressed? 1.00

04:26:47.220 I'm not saying every woman's oppressed. 0.98

04:26:49.520 Okay.

04:26:49.860 So, which ones?

04:26:50.940 Who at this table's oppressed?

04:26:53.800 Which ones...

04:26:54.480 Depends if that's how you feel.

04:26:55.440 Okay.

04:26:55.740 So, which ones and how?

04:26:57.580 Which ones and how?

04:26:58.380 Like, in the cases of corporate's a big one.

04:27:00.540 Let me ask you a question.

04:27:01.380 So, actually, speaking of tech companies...

04:27:04.780 Well, I guess Blizzard's a video game company, but kind of similar.

04:27:07.500 You can bring up tech.

04:27:07.940 Google actually tried to do a review of their payroll.

04:27:16.260 And they actually found, and you can Google this, and maybe, Andrew, you could just make sure I'm getting this right.

04:27:25.040 Google did an internal review and found that they were actually overpaying women compared to their male counterparts. 0.99

04:27:32.680 Is that evidence of men being oppressed, that Google was overpaying the women for the same work, the same job?

04:27:40.900 Because of probably overcompensation of what they think they thought.

04:27:45.140 Is that evidence of oppression, though?

04:27:47.280 That the women were getting paid more than the men? 0.94

04:27:49.260 No, I don't think just payment is, like, the one example of oppression.

04:27:52.980 I mean, that's what you sided to with the Blizzard case.

04:27:55.220 There was other things with the Blizzard case.

04:27:57.400 It wasn't just the payment inequality.

04:28:00.320 And he asked Brian...

04:28:01.240 Treatment in the office, there was also...

04:28:03.560 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but Brian is correct.

04:28:06.300 This was a Silicon Valley internal audit that Google did. 0.80

04:28:10.940 And they found that they were overpaying their female staff in order to compensate for some social justice bullshit, right? 1.00

04:28:17.860 That's essentially what happened in that case. 0.65

04:28:21.100 Well, that's why sometimes it's hard.

04:28:23.640 I'm not going to say I'm a full liberal, full socialist, because I do think there are a lot of mistakes like that.

04:28:29.540 I don't...

04:28:30.520 The overcompensation for women, that's why it's more about equity and not necessarily equality, 1.00

04:28:35.540 because I think the argument that we're completely equal is BS.

04:28:39.780 We're completely different.

04:28:42.660 Wait, so...

04:28:43.740 But when it happens to women, it's oppression. 1.00

04:28:46.340 It's oppression, but when it happens to men, it's just not oppression?

04:28:51.620 No, I was using the example of Blizzard, because there was a lot of things in that working environment.

04:28:56.080 Are you oppressed?

04:28:57.260 I said no.

04:28:58.200 Okay, how are women oppressed? 1.00

04:29:00.980 Like, in the example of the...

04:29:02.540 Besides the Blizzard example.

04:29:03.900 A corporate office, a lot of times there are, you know, women who aren't listened to as much. 1.00

04:29:08.600 There's studies showed by, like, Harvard did a bunch of studies on...

04:29:12.240 Is that oppression, though?

04:29:14.260 I don't know if that would constitute oppression.

04:29:17.840 It could be unfair treatment, but I don't...

04:29:20.340 Well, depends on...

04:29:21.400 Oppression, like, not listening to women's voices or, like, ideas in the workplace, isn't that kind of along the lines of oppression?

04:29:29.600 What evidence do you have that that actually occurs?

04:29:32.900 Well, there are studies that show, like, for example, the Harvard case study is...

04:29:37.920 You guys probably know of this one, where they give two, like, descriptions of someone...

04:29:43.280 Is this the resume one?

04:29:45.200 Like, the resumes?

04:29:46.040 Yeah.

04:29:46.440 And they thought the woman was bossy. 1.00

04:29:47.520 Oh, yes.

04:29:47.540 Let's get into this one.

04:29:48.320 Go ahead.

04:29:49.160 Andrew has something for this.

04:29:50.520 Oh, gosh.

04:29:50.840 But, okay, go ahead.

04:29:51.700 Yeah, so they showed a room full of students.

04:29:53.300 They thought the woman was bossy, blah, blah. 1.00

04:29:55.840 And then they thought the man was a great leader, took good initiative, et cetera.

04:30:00.840 Wait, which thing are you referencing here?

04:30:02.840 Which study?

04:30:03.340 It was a Harvard case study based off of they were giving the qualifications of a candidate, and the woman, they, the classroom deemed that she seemed bossy, she seemed arrogant, and then they gave it with a man's name, and they were like, oh, he seems like a good leader.

04:30:19.380 I would follow him confident.

04:30:21.840 Now, this is off the top of your head, so I don't actually expect you to know this, but do you have any idea what the study might have been called or what the methodology was that was used in it?

04:30:32.340 No, there's a lot of my classes go over that study, though.

04:30:36.740 I wouldn't be able to tell you the name.

04:30:40.160 Well, it sounds like you're paying a lot for classes where you don't even remember what it is that you read inside the class, right?

04:30:46.580 A Harvard case study?

04:30:47.220 Do you remember every Harvard case studies you read?

04:30:50.020 If I cite them, I do.

04:30:51.920 I didn't know what topics of conversation were going to come up on this podcast.

04:30:56.640 Do you know what I find, though?

04:30:57.300 Well, I mean, let's just assume for a second the topic of conversation I didn't think would come up on the podcast, then I probably wouldn't cite something if I didn't know anything about the thing I was citing.

04:31:08.140 That seems, again, to me, to be absurd.

04:31:10.460 I read it.

04:31:11.540 It's the same thing in the earlier arguments.

04:31:15.140 What are the statistics you're citing?

04:31:18.140 Which statistics?

04:31:19.660 Like what time period and things like that.

04:31:21.320 You randomly would give information that it's based off what?

04:31:25.160 And you would say, oh, things I've read.

04:31:27.240 Okay, which reference are you referencing?

04:31:30.480 Like you were talking about divorce because of unhappiness.

04:31:34.040 Yeah, this is all stats you can find from divorce.com.

04:31:38.600 Not kidding.

04:31:40.240 And you can also find the other stats that I cited to you from Pew Research.

04:31:47.280 Okay.

04:31:48.100 I've noticed a common trend.

04:31:49.680 And I'm not trying to attack you, Kirby, but almost every liberal woman I've met, especially those who are studying college, whether they're getting their bachelor's, master's, whatever it is, they're very liberal-leaning.

04:32:04.220 And I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.

04:32:09.620 Anytime wife is feeling oppressed or I'm feeling ungrateful, we take a dump in the toilet, flush it, and watch it get carried out of our home into the septic tank.

04:32:20.720 Instant gratefulness.

04:32:22.740 Try it.

04:32:24.060 Interesting. 1.00

04:32:24.560 Just flush the shit right out of your household. 1.00

04:32:30.960 A lot of liberal-leaning women, especially who are feminist-leaning, often state that I think it should be this way or this person's oppressed and I'm going to college for it and I've been in college for eight years and I've learned all this and I've taken all these classes. 1.00

04:32:46.620 But then you don't state anything.

04:32:48.480 It's just all opinions.

04:32:49.320 Well, I'm stating actual studies.

04:32:52.380 I mean, of course, I guess it's a terrible example if I don't remember the actual case study, but...

04:32:56.600 But there's no reasoning why.

04:32:59.060 It's just, oh, this person, this one day got oppressed by this person, but a man had a similar scenario happen, but that wasn't oppression.

04:33:07.320 That was just a mere coincidence that day.

04:33:09.860 Back up Malik's point here.

04:33:11.640 Let me mansplain a little bit.

04:33:14.700 It's good for Malik to hear this.

04:33:16.300 So, even if the study is true, whatever it is that you're referencing, and that there was a similar set of qualifications between a male and a female and pictures shown to a class and the class thought that the woman was a boss bitch and the man was sophisticated or, you know, some variation thereof, that still wouldn't actually indicate that women were oppressed.

04:33:35.940 That would just be a moderate sociological study of which you still could not draw any apt conclusions of oppression from such a study.

04:33:47.140 Well, I think there's a general, I guess, a general opinion based off of that, that it's like, it's harder for women to, like, get promoted, for example, because their initiative, their actions... 0.98

04:33:59.940 What Malik just said is right, then, an opinion, an opinion, not anything which is really tangible nor scientifically demonstrated, but an opinion.

04:34:12.300 So, what Malik is saying, because she deals with Twitch lunatics all the time, she knows this as well as any of us do, which is that oftentimes people will characterize sociological studies as being backups for their opinion.

04:34:24.740 And so, the distinction here that I'm looking for is I want to determine if this is just your opinion, or if you think that there's any actual scientific validity to the fact that in a sociological study that there was a variance of opinions given, and that that means we can draw some kind of conclusion from that.

04:34:50.880 How do you scientifically prove...

04:34:55.080 Can I?

04:34:56.440 Sure.

04:34:56.800 Wait, wait, wait.

04:34:57.360 Just finish your...

04:34:58.240 Oppression?

04:34:58.500 Yeah, oppression.

04:34:59.220 Okay.

04:34:59.960 Great.

04:35:00.380 So, I'm part Persian.

04:35:02.120 I'm Middle Eastern.

04:35:02.900 Okay. 0.96

04:35:03.240 In Iran, women will get arrested, killed, attacked, beat, just for showing their hair. 0.95

04:35:10.380 To me, that is oppression.

04:35:13.380 That's not scientific evidence of oppression.

04:35:16.140 That's scientific evidence, like...

04:35:17.480 That's factual evidence.

04:35:19.000 It's factual.

04:35:20.000 So, you don't need to have any scientific study.

04:35:22.840 If a woman shows her hair in public in Iran, there's a high probability that a violent hate crime is going to be committed against her just for showing her hair, because in Iran, in the Middle East specifically, there's a lot of oppression against women, and women are not treated...

04:35:37.120 Well, now, but hang on, Malik. 0.93

04:35:39.140 Nobody went there with a clipboard and a pen and determined scientifically whether or not beating the shit out of a woman was oppression or not, Malik. 0.87

04:35:48.240 So, you can calm down over there. 0.97

04:35:49.480 It's a statistic, yes.

04:35:50.580 You're out of control again.

04:35:52.360 It's not a statistic.

04:35:53.300 It's a fact.

04:35:53.900 It's a fact.

04:35:54.380 It's a statistic.

04:35:55.060 You don't need signs.

04:35:55.700 It's not.

04:35:56.060 It's a fact.

04:35:56.660 It happens.

04:35:58.140 Well, yeah, it's a fact.

04:35:59.360 It's facts that add into statistics.

04:36:01.380 You don't need to do any scientific study to know that if you go to the Middle East, you may not even live a day just dressed how you are right now.

04:36:10.440 In America, you can walk to a bar alone at night, get drunk, and get home safe.

04:36:15.460 Yes, that's not the safest thing to do, but even the fact that you have the capability of doing that shows that women are free and not oppressed. 0.96

04:36:22.220 And you can get jobs.

04:36:24.080 You want to be a full-time worker your entire life, work a nine-to-five.

04:36:29.860 You're going to college.

04:36:31.140 You're studying.

04:36:32.040 There's some countries that still women don't even have those rights fully where they can get an education and work. 1.00

04:36:37.680 They're just forced to live a life that they just have to or they're dead.

04:36:42.020 Yeah, I agree with you.

04:36:43.080 I've never said women are not oppressed everywhere else in the world. 0.88

04:36:45.700 I just think there's examples and cases of oppression here.

04:36:47.340 Well, to me, that's what oppression is.

04:36:49.440 In America, women do not face any of that. 0.98

04:36:52.400 I don't – it's a little extreme to say any of that.

04:36:54.820 There are cases of –

04:36:56.420 There are outliers, but generally, the laws in the United States of America do not allow women to be oppressed. 0.99

04:37:02.080 Yeah, but also on top of that, if you're going to point to outliers, then each outlier you can point to, I can point to a similar outlier for why men are oppressed inside of this great country as well.

04:37:13.540 So any time you decide to indicate one of these outliers, I'm happy to match you one for one for why it is that men can go in.

04:37:22.480 Do you think men are oppressed? 0.96

04:37:23.440 With these wondrous, wonderful qualifications that they have and due to some type of, I don't know, California statute that says you have to have X amount of women who are CEOs in your fucking companies that suddenly these men get outplaced by these women. 1.00

04:37:39.720 That sounds like a lot of fucking oppression to me, I got to tell you. 0.98

04:37:43.540 Do you think men are oppressed? 0.99

04:37:46.060 I think they can.

04:37:46.920 I think anyone can really be oppressed.

04:37:49.100 Then you're destroying the meaning of the word.

04:37:51.820 If anyone can be oppressed, then no one's oppressed.

04:37:54.900 I think it goes case by case.

04:37:56.600 If anyone can be oppressed, then there's no oppression.

04:37:59.300 Cook, Malik.

04:38:02.080 It's the nonsense.

04:38:03.020 You're contradicting almost every statement you make because you're making statements of facts based on your personal opinions, on your personal life, and your life choices and how you were raised.

04:38:17.600 Here's a question.

04:38:18.540 Here's a question.

04:38:19.040 You're going to get a ride home tonight?

04:38:21.400 It's going to be a long drive.

04:38:22.980 It's going to be a long drive.

04:38:23.860 They drove together, so that's going to be an awkward ride home.

04:38:28.760 Are there any rights that men have that women don't?

04:38:36.500 Off the top of my head?

04:38:40.340 No, you can think about it for a while.

04:38:42.200 Take your time.

04:38:46.360 Oh, man.

04:38:48.220 In the U.S., though, of course.

04:38:50.120 In the U.S., yeah.

04:38:55.080 I mean, you're going to – I already know the argument for this one if I say it, but it's like the topic of abortion.

04:39:04.420 I already know, like, the counterpoints to that.

04:39:07.560 Okay.

04:39:09.440 That's true.

04:39:10.120 Men don't have the right to get abortions. 1.00

04:39:11.440 Exactly.

04:39:11.800 It's like that's going to be, like –

04:39:13.880 Yeah, it's kind of unfair for men.

04:39:15.640 Yeah, there you go.

04:39:17.260 Inequality.

04:39:18.220 They don't have a say, and if you can abort it, that's an argument I've heard.

04:39:23.120 Okay.

04:39:24.300 Anything besides that?

04:39:26.360 So men would be oppressed in your example?

04:39:28.720 Yeah, are you saying men are oppressed?

04:39:30.400 Well, I said – you guys said I can't say that, so –

04:39:33.780 You can say it.

04:39:34.600 No, you can say it.

04:39:35.180 There's a case by case.

04:39:36.140 You're just wrong, but –

04:39:39.220 I never said anything about not being oppressed outside of the U.S. too.

04:39:47.180 I, like –

04:39:48.360 I think there is oppression in the U.S. as well.

04:39:50.820 Well, yeah, let's talk about the U.S.

04:39:52.520 I think, for example, police and women.

04:39:57.540 There's cases where, like, let's say in New York City, and – you're going to play a noise.

04:40:05.760 And I think it was the 1970s, there was a lot of –

04:40:10.280 Octopus Tetro donated $100.

04:40:13.600 Jojo, I am happy that you can take the side of the unpopular opinion on this podcast.

04:40:19.160 It takes guts and takes knowledge.

04:40:21.940 I'm literally spending $300 to say this now.

04:40:25.760 You're just wrong.

04:40:27.280 Praise Jesus.

04:40:28.920 Praise the Lord.

04:40:31.040 You were about to say something about cops in the 1970s.

04:40:34.080 In the 1970s, women who were prostitutes in the 1970s were getting arrested and thrown in jail, 0.99

04:40:39.880 and the pimps, because of being men, were a lot of times not persecuted.

04:40:46.700 Okay, and gay marriage wasn't legal until 2012.

04:40:48.920 How was that relevant?

04:40:49.640 You guys want to – I'm just going to – exciting general knowledge of oppression.

04:40:55.680 In the 1970s, prostitutes were getting grounded down, and they just were – they were just 0.99

04:41:01.420 a little nice to the pimps, huh?

04:41:02.780 Like, 2010 forward.

04:41:05.800 At least in the 2020s now.

04:41:07.360 They were forced into sex work by, like, these men, these pimps, and it was just a general,

04:41:12.980 again, another – I know you guys love it – another study that I read about.

04:41:16.980 What right does a man have in this country that a woman does not? 1.00

04:41:22.580 Today.

04:41:23.900 How many years ago was 1970, by the way?

04:41:27.560 Quick.

04:41:28.340 1970s.

04:41:28.860 How many – how many –

04:41:30.020 Almost 40 years.

04:41:30.760 Yeah, just 1970.

04:41:31.940 How many years ago is it?

04:41:33.100 50 years ago.

04:41:33.500 Is that what you wanted?

04:41:34.680 54, but –

04:41:36.060 Oh, I said 70s.

04:41:37.200 I don't know what year of –

04:41:38.460 Oh, okay.

04:41:42.020 Actually, it's 54.

04:41:43.700 50-ish.

04:41:44.260 I mean, truthfully, the only thing that I can think of that's – and I'm – when

04:41:48.100 we're talking about rights, the only thing I can think of is – and this isn't the case,

04:41:52.520 there's some jurisdictions where this is allowed, but men can go topless. 0.84

04:41:56.760 They can –

04:41:57.760 Oh, that's a good one.

04:41:58.560 Without a shirt.

04:41:59.500 It really isn't, though, because that's like –

04:42:00.860 That's not – yeah.

04:42:01.380 Even women don't want to walk around topless. 1.00

04:42:04.060 No.

04:42:04.440 And there's some jurisdictions where you can go topless, but like, you know, is that

04:42:11.200 like –

04:42:11.860 Oppressive. 0.99

04:42:13.700 Look, I'm all for free of the titties. 0.99

04:42:15.660 Sign me up. 0.98

04:42:16.380 All men are for it. 0.99

04:42:17.280 It's the women who don't want to – like, I personally would never want to do that. 1.00

04:42:20.880 I don't feel oppressed by having to dress properly.

04:42:25.160 I'm pretty sure.

04:42:25.700 How about this?

04:42:28.820 Men are more oppressed than women. 0.97

04:42:31.200 Yeah, I don't agree with that.

04:42:32.280 You want to bite on that one?

04:42:34.240 You're really trying to cast a line here, huh?

04:42:38.460 Oh, man.

04:42:39.340 I feel like there's – yeah, okay.

04:42:41.240 Sure.

04:42:42.220 Why do you say that?

04:42:44.780 Well, I mean, you're talking about like rights and stuff, you know?

04:42:48.460 So I can think of three examples of things that strictly impact men that don't really

04:42:55.860 impact women.

04:42:57.080 So first off – and this is immediately upon birth why I would think men are more oppressed

04:43:03.660 than women. 0.99

04:43:04.820 So upon birth, the vast majority of men in this country are – get circumcised, which I view 0.93

04:43:12.420 as a child genital mutilation.

04:43:15.040 It's done without their consent. 0.54

04:43:16.520 And I am against it. 0.99

04:43:20.720 Women are not having their lady bits circumcised in this country on birth. 0.96

04:43:27.180 So that's a pretty major issue that I view that impacts – that's immediately upon birth 0.98

04:43:35.940 men are treated unequally to women.

04:43:39.020 The next is forced military conscription.

04:43:42.500 And I've said this before.

04:43:43.500 I'll say it again.

04:43:43.980 Again, if we were to combine and add up all of women's collective grievances throughout 1.00

04:43:49.040 all of – all time, all the grievances could not – no right to vote.

04:43:55.380 Apparently you couldn't – there's something about bank accounts.

04:43:59.520 Couldn't have a bank account.

04:44:02.020 You know, inequality in the workplace, et cetera, et cetera.

04:44:05.320 Unfair gender expectations, et cetera, whatever.

04:44:11.540 Put them all together.

04:44:13.060 Compare them to forced military conscription.

04:44:15.600 I would argue that is a bigger grievance than all of women's collective grievances combined. 1.00

04:44:21.940 So circumcisions and draft –

04:44:25.060 No, just forced military conscription.

04:44:30.580 That's a bigger grievance, a bigger gender grievance than all of women's collective grievances. 1.00

04:44:35.900 And what's your third?

04:44:36.600 No, I mean, I'm kind of veering off here and just saying like whatever the feminists want 1.00

04:44:43.000 to say is a terrible grievance upon women, I'm coming and saying, well, actually, this

04:44:48.120 one sole grievance experienced nearly exclusively by men is worse than all of your grievances

04:44:54.580 combined together.

04:44:56.440 No, it's experienced just exclusively by men.

04:44:58.640 I mean, they're going to argue, well, in World War II, there was a Soviet sniper force of

04:45:04.280 a thousand women. 0.87

04:45:05.240 Yeah, no, no, that would be the Soviet, though.

04:45:07.800 So here in the United States, totally a grievance.

04:45:09.700 Well, I mean, I was even just arguing like worldwide when it came to military conscription,

04:45:14.240 almost all battles dating back thousands of years.

04:45:17.060 It's men have been forced to go to war and die, and women haven't. 0.99

04:45:21.480 And that is a bigger grievance.

04:45:23.940 And you know what?

04:45:24.580 I'll even say just World War I and World War II, the suffering that men exclusively 1.00

04:45:30.700 endured in warfare is a bigger grievance than all of women's historical collective grievances 0.57

04:45:36.980 combined.

04:45:37.880 That's crazy.

04:45:39.060 How's that?

04:45:39.580 How's that crazy?

04:45:40.440 I don't think that's crazy.

04:45:42.880 Give me here.

04:45:44.280 Give me an example.

04:45:46.120 I'll allow you to give me one example that's worse than forced military conscription that

04:45:51.200 women in World War II.

04:45:52.880 Give me just a military conscription.

04:45:56.220 Give me one example.

04:45:57.840 Octopus Tetro donated $100.

04:46:01.040 Brian, look to the scriptures of Christ and you will see the need of circumcision.

04:46:05.840 When we look at what God himself wants from us, it's necessary.

04:46:10.180 Malek, you're from a Muslim culture, but look to Jesus. 1.00

04:46:14.920 Malek came from Orthodox Christianity, if I remember correctly.

04:46:18.940 Yes, I'm mixed.

04:46:20.640 I'm also Armenian and I grew up with Armenian culture and Armenia was the first Christian

04:46:25.620 nation, so I'm Christian.

04:46:27.840 I mean, I don't actually know what the Christian position is on circumcision.

04:46:33.800 I don't know, Andrew, if you're able to weigh in on this, but...

04:46:37.280 It's mixed.

04:46:37.800 There's been a big fight about it, especially in the last hundred years.

04:46:42.980 So I'm not going to dive too much into that.

04:46:46.240 You would need somebody who had more nuance of church affairs than me when it comes to circumcision.

04:46:51.620 But yeah, there's a big fight about it even now.

04:46:53.620 Yeah.

04:46:53.720 I mean, it occurs to me, though, if you take a secular look at circumcision, you remove

04:46:58.960 the religious component.

04:47:00.540 I mean, on its own, it occurs to me that it's a rather barbaric practice.

04:47:06.360 I don't know.

04:47:07.060 But bringing it back to you, okay, state one grievance, one gendered grievance that women 1.00

04:47:12.880 have experienced that's worse than forced military conscription.

04:47:16.820 I mean, I guess the outcomes of going to war, the outcomes of what happens with women 1.00

04:47:25.120 and cities that are invaded.

04:47:27.300 So Hillary Clinton in the 90s said something along the lines of, women are the primary... 1.00

04:47:33.460 I think she said, women and children are the primary victims of war.

04:47:38.380 Do you agree or disagree with that?

04:47:40.540 I think everyone's a victim of war, so no.

04:47:43.260 But do you agree that women are the primary victims of war?

04:47:51.760 No.

04:47:53.880 Who are the primary victims of war?

04:47:55.740 I think all of the human species is.

04:47:57.680 No, who are the primary victims of war?

04:48:01.000 I have to name a man or a woman.

04:48:03.540 That's my two options.

04:48:04.200 A group.

04:48:05.120 Well, so let me try to frame it better, make it a little easier.

04:48:08.940 If you had to choose which sex... 0.51

04:48:13.940 That's what I just asked.

04:48:14.880 If you had to choose which sex, would you say it's men or women who are primarily affected

04:48:19.080 by warfare?

04:48:22.260 This is crazy.

04:48:25.660 It's not crazy.

04:48:26.840 Wait, wait, no, no, no, let her answer, go ahead.

04:48:28.460 I'll say women. 0.75

04:48:30.100 Women? 1.00

04:48:31.060 Women. 0.81

04:48:31.800 Wait, so...

04:48:32.440 And why would you say that?

04:48:33.840 Women are what? 1.00

04:48:36.260 Put it in your own words.

04:48:38.480 Women are what? 1.00

04:48:39.680 The main victim of war.

04:48:42.840 I didn't get that.

04:48:44.620 Wait, you didn't get what, Nick?

04:48:46.660 You didn't get the mic.

04:48:49.460 You didn't...

04:48:50.400 Go ahead.

04:48:51.660 Can you speak in a mic?

04:48:53.020 That women are the main victim of war? 1.00

04:48:57.860 Why?

04:48:58.360 Okay.

04:48:58.900 How?

04:48:59.400 This is why people shouldn't go to get a master's degree.

04:49:02.260 After the first four years...

04:49:05.320 So why?

04:49:05.740 I think Andrew was asking, why are women the primary victims of war?

04:49:09.880 Well, in the case I'm thinking of, World War II and...

04:49:13.800 Yeah, World War II.

04:49:14.740 Sure.

04:49:15.040 Let's use World War II.

04:49:16.400 Okay.

04:49:17.300 Like in Asia, for example, you have men who can fight.

04:49:22.440 They are...

04:49:23.000 They have weapons.

04:49:24.140 They're able to protect themselves, let's say.

04:49:27.140 Yes, outcome of war, a lot of people die on both sides.

04:49:30.540 There's a lot of cases where nothing can happen, like a nuke, for example, or a bomb.

04:49:36.160 There's a lot of cases where I'm not saying this is generalized for everything, but they

04:49:42.860 had competitions where they would go into villages and R-word the women, kill them after. 0.99

04:49:51.440 This happened to children in front of the mothers, things like that, which is...

04:49:56.740 Okay, so let's assume that's true, right?

04:49:58.380 It is true.

04:49:58.820 Yeah, you're talking about Nanking.

04:50:01.580 Well, it didn't just happen there.

04:50:02.700 It occurred to...

04:50:03.260 Yeah, I thought she was talking about Vietnam, but...

04:50:05.640 It happened in the Philippines, too.

04:50:06.940 Look, yes, but in war, but in...

04:50:09.180 Yes, okay.

04:50:10.740 Let's say...

04:50:11.380 Let's just agree with you.

04:50:12.720 Yes, in war, rape occurs. 1.00

04:50:14.260 Rape is terrible.

04:50:15.220 It occurs.

04:50:16.340 So your position is, because rape occurs in war, women are the primary victims of war.

04:50:22.100 Well, I'm not saying that that is, like, the only...

04:50:25.480 Let's say 100,000 women... 1.00

04:50:27.680 Let's just...

04:50:28.240 I'm making up a number here.

04:50:29.340 I don't know what the truth is.

04:50:30.200 Let's say during World War II, 100,000 women were raped, and 20 million men were killed in World War II.

04:50:39.540 Who's the primary victim of war in World War II?

04:50:42.100 But it's not just men dying in World War II.

04:50:43.720 It's also women dying. 0.71

04:50:45.260 They aren't just getting R-worded.

04:50:46.720 The men are forced to put their life on the line.

04:50:49.000 What person...

04:50:50.520 You mean the women... 0.99

04:50:52.240 Are you talking about civilian casualties?

04:50:54.520 Yes, civilians.

04:50:55.620 Of course.

04:50:56.020 Okay, but now let's add on the 20 million military deaths.

04:51:01.740 I might have my numbers wrong a little bit here, but...

04:51:05.020 So let's assume military deaths are, like, nearly exclusively male.

04:51:11.600 Like, 99.99% male.

04:51:14.820 Okay.

04:51:15.980 Okay.

04:51:17.020 So you have 20 million male military deaths versus...

04:51:22.020 There's a...

04:51:23.020 Let's exclude civilian populations, because there's male civilian populations, too. 1.00

04:51:27.740 Let's just say only women are getting raped, right? 0.99

04:51:30.660 100,000 women get essayed.

04:51:35.520 Who is the primary victim of war?

04:51:38.420 In the case you just described?

04:51:40.460 So let's say there's 20 million male deaths, military deaths, and then there's 100,000 women who are essayed civilians.

04:51:49.580 Okay.

04:51:50.040 Who is the primary victim of war?

04:51:51.420 In that case, men. 0.55

04:51:53.020 Okay, so you've just made a case for...

04:51:57.420 If you're cutting out civilian casualties to prove this point...

04:52:03.300 Okay.

04:52:03.760 Yeah, well, but he can, especially since you're specifically looking at the United States.

04:52:08.880 So, for instance, of the 292,000 members of the U.S. military who were killed by enemy fire, 16 of them total were female.

04:52:18.100 16.

04:52:19.660 Of the United States, yeah.

04:52:21.160 Total, total, total, 16 from the United States for all of World War II, all of it.

04:52:30.960 Yep.

04:52:31.360 So, who would you say then was the worst victim of war for, at least for the United States, if you just, like, had to choose?

04:52:40.760 That's, yeah, the men.

04:52:42.820 The men.

04:52:43.320 Now, if we were to go stat by stat, nation by nation, you're going to find something very similar to this, because women, you may not know this, are actually usually protected in warfare conditions. 0.85

04:52:57.140 Now, it is true that the communists did horrible things to their own population, the populations that they conquered.

04:53:03.940 That is true.

04:53:04.940 They did.

04:53:05.420 The Russians especially.

04:53:06.700 I mean, they went through Berlin, did horrific things to the women, but still predominantly the ones who suffered the most in even the European nations were men.

04:53:15.660 And, I mean, just the casualty rates alone, as Brian is indicating, were overwhelmingly disproportionate.

04:53:22.780 So, knowing this, knowing this new information, did you maybe want to change your answer?

04:53:29.560 Well, what's the casualty rates on both?

04:53:32.360 On which, well, I mean.

04:53:33.640 On female and men.

04:53:34.140 Did you pull it up?

04:53:35.200 Female and, you mean female soldiers? 1.00

04:53:37.240 No, I'm saying female, civilians, anything.

04:53:41.140 Yeah, if you want to know the disproportionate rate between the two, we can look those stats up for you as well.

04:53:47.880 But under the assumption for a second that it is true that they were disproportionately male, because they were, would you then still concede, or would you say no, women are still the victims, the primary victims?

04:54:01.580 I never even, like, agreed with that original point.

04:54:05.560 You said you have to choose one.

04:54:07.060 And I said, I think all humans are victims of war.

04:54:10.620 Well, no, but what?

04:54:11.180 Well, no, and then when you modified your answer, you said women, though.

04:54:13.940 You said women.

04:54:14.460 No, I modified it because you made me modify it.

04:54:16.940 You said, choose men or women.

04:54:18.340 Well, yeah, what I did was I said if you had to choose between one sex or the other, which would you choose, you said women.

04:54:25.740 So, we're obviously asking that question so we can test your logic as to why you would pick women.

04:54:30.140 I chose that answer, and I said this, is because of what goes on in war.

04:54:35.920 Or the invasion of, like, cities and things like that, where women will get attacked, S.A. 1.00

04:54:41.700 And what happens to the men?

04:54:43.160 They will get S.A.'d, but sometimes up to one-third to two-thirds of the entire civilian population of men are put to the sword.

04:54:51.200 And women usually don't have to deal with that problem. 1.00

04:54:53.400 They get carried off as basically trophies, and they get to live.

04:54:59.600 And the men get put on spikes.

04:55:01.720 That's what happens.

04:55:03.100 They don't allow them to live sometimes.

04:55:05.380 But sometimes that's true, but most of the time it's not true.

04:55:10.220 Most of the time when you're looking at the disproportionate rate of men versus women who are butchered in these massacres, it's still generally men. 0.83

04:55:19.040 And the reason for that is because they don't want to leave an enemy at their back of possibly capable, able-bodied soldiers who could come after them.

04:55:28.260 That's why that occurs that way.

04:55:29.800 I am saying, in war, I think that what goes on with when they invade certain cities and villages, things like that, I think not being able to defend yourself is very scary, right?

04:55:51.560 I think that makes them victims.

04:55:52.940 You can't defend themselves either, if it's a civilian population. 0.61

04:55:57.260 Yeah, of course.

04:55:57.880 Good thing we're in the U.S.

04:55:59.100 And yet, so the men are the ones, though, that are usually gathered up and systematically exterminated first.

04:56:05.680 It is true that women do have to experience things like SA and things like this, but generally, many, many, many times more of them are allowed to live.

04:56:16.160 Also, you brought up defending yourself, but earlier you said you're against guns.

04:56:20.560 We're talking about wars.

04:56:21.560 Don't derail, don't derail.

04:56:23.640 Wait, so again, so who's the primary victim of war?

04:56:27.220 Oh, my gosh.

04:56:28.020 Can I say all humans again?

04:56:31.380 No, you have to pick.

04:56:32.320 Stand on business.

04:56:34.100 I guess we'll pick women. 1.00

04:56:35.160 We haven't made a convincing enough case to change your mind at all on this.

04:56:42.300 I have a video.

04:56:43.080 Let's pull up a video really quick.

04:56:44.740 Nick, can you go to the private chat?

04:56:46.840 Before you pull it up, let me just read two chats here.

04:56:49.680 Maddie, can you read this one?

04:56:53.300 Get it pulled up, though, if you can.

04:56:54.540 It's in the private chat.

04:56:55.220 I can smell the chair now, but I know she's not down.

04:56:57.140 I will offer a ring, land with the house, and bearing my seed.

04:57:00.400 Any thoughts on Patrice O'Neill saying men are better than women?

04:57:05.680 I didn't say that.

04:57:06.500 That was Patrice O'Neill who said that.

04:57:09.120 I think we're all special.

04:57:11.880 Yeah.

04:57:12.680 We're all special.

04:57:13.720 We all have our strengths.

04:57:15.260 Patrice O'Neill had some hot takes.

04:57:17.980 We have this one.

04:57:21.840 Celeste had an OnlyFans as vanity at its peak. 1.00

04:57:27.120 Tits peak.

04:57:29.620 She was conservative, but doesn't seem very conservative to me. 0.98

04:57:32.860 Does she have natural tits, though? 1.00

04:57:34.760 Wow. 0.99

04:57:35.440 Celeste had an OnlyFans? 0.95

04:57:36.740 No.

04:57:38.060 That's.

04:57:39.300 Is it going to hit?

04:57:39.900 Okay.

04:57:41.280 Who is that?

04:57:43.420 Not sure.

04:57:44.420 Okay, last one, Maddie.

04:57:45.220 Read this one.

04:57:45.820 Make women register for draft. 0.97

04:57:48.480 Just because you are drafted does not mean frontline service.

04:57:51.400 There is more support roles than combat roles.

04:57:54.720 I'd agree to that.

04:57:55.820 Nick, why don't you pull up the video?

04:57:57.460 This is super related.

04:57:59.360 You can go ahead and play it.

04:58:04.140 We'll only watch a little bit of it.

04:58:05.820 World War II.

04:58:07.220 Oh, my God.

04:58:07.820 The average lifespan of an American is 80 years.

04:58:11.820 And an 80-year-old today was 10 when World War II was.

04:58:13.320 Nick, can you put us in the corner?

04:58:14.360 When World War II was.

04:58:15.100 Right corner?

04:58:16.120 Four when it began.

04:58:19.060 A soldier who saw battle would have to be in his late 80s, at least today.

04:58:24.300 Generals, political leaders, the decision makers of the war, few are still with us.

04:58:30.460 And over the past few decades, we've seen authors and filmmakers rush to capture stories

04:58:35.740 from survivors.

04:58:36.460 A little louder.

04:58:37.160 Before this connection of memory is lost.

04:58:39.260 This project is not about individual war stories.

04:58:50.160 And it's not about survivors.

04:58:53.120 We're going to tally up the tens of millions of people whose lives are cut short by the war.

04:58:57.600 And see how these numbers stack up to other wars in history, including trends in recent

04:59:02.900 conflicts.

04:59:10.420 We'll be counting soldiers and civilians separately.

04:59:12.880 Each of these figures represents 1,000 people who died.

04:59:19.900 Civilians were of all walks away. 0.98

04:59:21.300 Could you lower it a little?

04:59:23.740 Whereas military deaths were almost entirely men.

04:59:26.780 The average age was about 23.

04:59:30.900 In most battles, for every 1,000 soldiers killed, there are more than 1,000 who were injured.

04:59:36.180 The word casualty can be confusing, because in military speak, it often includes both deaths

04:59:40.740 and injuries, and anything else that takes a soldier out of service.

04:59:43.500 Here, we're just counting the deaths.

04:59:46.440 And we'll begin with American soldiers.

04:59:58.960 Over 400,000 died.

05:00:03.180 All men. 0.93

05:00:03.900 All men. 0.93

05:00:04.700 Most of the deaths occurred in the European theater, fighting the Nazis.

05:00:09.320 And about a quarter were in the Pacific, fighting the Japanese.

05:00:13.500 When you put them on the timeline, you see that casualties were the heaviest at the end

05:00:18.280 of the war.

05:00:19.740 The war began on September 1, 1939.

05:00:23.180 But the U.S. wasn't willing to join the fight until Pearl Harbor, two years ago.

05:00:29.000 The deaths increased drastically on D-Day, when the Allies invaded Normandy.

05:00:34.560 One of the most tragic moments of the war was on D-Day at Omaha Beach, where 2,500 Americans

05:00:40.680 fell.

05:00:43.500 Male privilege, by the way.

05:00:44.700 So about the same number of U.S. soldiers died on this single beach landing, as the entire

05:00:48.800 13 years of the recent war in Afghanistan.

05:00:56.060 The bloodiest battle in the Pacific was Okinawa, which lasted 82 days, during which 12,500 Americans

05:01:02.780 died.

05:01:03.080 About 5,000 of these deaths were at sea from kamikaze attacks.

05:01:14.800 Now let's look at some other countries, starting with Europe.

05:01:22.580 Germany started World War II when it invaded Poland.

05:01:25.380 Poland ultimately lost 200,000 soldiers in the war.

05:01:30.960 Most died after the invasion while the country was occupied by Germany and the Soviet Union.

05:01:39.640 Germany, meanwhile, lost just 16,000 in the invasion of Poland.

05:01:43.140 The Nazis went on to invade and conquer other countries, including Denmark, Belgium, the

05:01:49.260 Netherlands, France, Greece, and Yugoslavia.

05:01:52.660 France surrendered, but after losing 92,000 soldiers in the Battle of France.

05:01:56.700 Over 200,000 ultimately fell, which includes deaths in POW camps, French colonies, and other

05:02:03.360 fighting.

05:02:05.080 Yugoslavia suffered almost half a million military deaths.

05:02:08.880 The initial invasion brought relatively few casualties on both sides.

05:02:12.640 But the deaths mounted under Nazi occupation due to guerrilla fighting, civil conflict, and

05:02:16.540 mass executions.

05:02:17.340 The Nazi invasions were swift, with relatively few German losses.

05:02:25.300 Even the Nazi commanders expressed surprise at their success.

05:02:30.040 And then we have the United Kingdom in the United States, who were not invaded, but took

05:02:33.980 the fight to the Nazis.

05:02:35.720 Britain lost about the same number of soldiers as the U.S., which includes the British colonies.

05:02:40.720 Germany lost about half a million soldiers fighting the U.S. and Britain in what is known

05:02:44.740 as the Western Front, which took place in France and Belgium.

05:02:50.460 Other side.

05:02:54.880 But most Nazi soldiers died in the Eastern Front, Germany's unsuccessful invasion of the Soviet

05:03:01.420 Union.

05:03:02.900 The numbers are staggering.

05:03:05.980 Each one of those is the most famous battle of the Eastern Front, and perhaps the turning

05:03:09.400 point of the European War, was Stalingrad.

05:03:11.860 The German 6th Army successfully took Stalingrad, but then got surrounded by the Soviets, and

05:03:17.140 cut off from food and ammunition.

05:03:19.460 Half a million Nazis would ultimately die in Stalingrad.

05:03:23.520 Another 100,000 were taken prisoner, of which 6,000 would ever return.

05:03:30.240 POWs had a low survival rate throughout World War II, and it was particularly grim in the East.

05:03:35.140 You can pause it.

05:03:35.780 When you include these POWs, all right, all right, uh, you want to revise your answer,

05:03:42.160 maybe?

05:03:43.060 It didn't, it cut off the civilians immediately, though, to the, talking about civilians.

05:03:48.680 But, okay, it also said all those military casualties were almost exclusively men.

05:03:54.600 Yes, and soldiers, yeah.

05:03:56.180 I never said it's not.

05:03:57.640 So, men are disposable, is what you're saying?

05:04:00.920 No.

05:04:01.540 Why would I say that?

05:04:04.020 Okay, so what if I told you there were, I don't know how to explain this, um, I thought

05:04:10.140 that would have been helpful.

05:04:11.800 I was like, why are we watching this?

05:04:13.160 To show you the scale of the military deaths that were experienced exclusively by men, as

05:04:20.600 it's stated in the video, that was not convincing to you at all.

05:04:24.880 So, your position is still, women are the primary victims of war?

05:04:29.800 I thought you pulled up the video so you can show me how many civilian deaths there are

05:04:35.440 as well.

05:04:36.140 I thought that was the point of the video.

05:04:38.520 Okay, here.

05:04:39.500 I'll Google it.

05:04:40.340 So, uh, let's see.

05:04:43.160 Brian gone full kook donated $100.

05:04:47.140 You filter this, you're fake.

05:04:49.360 Being essays is way worse.

05:04:51.540 Often women raise theater as a child. 1.00

05:04:54.780 A constant reminder. 1.00

05:04:56.520 Brian, would you rather be Australian dollars art or die? 1.00

05:05:01.040 Be... 0.99

05:05:01.760 Us.

05:05:03.080 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:05:04.380 Um.

05:05:07.880 I would rather, I mean, this is a...

05:05:10.300 Well, come on here.

05:05:11.440 I would rather live.

05:05:12.120 No, I'd rather live.

05:05:13.220 Okay.

05:05:13.660 Yeah.

05:05:14.880 Well, there are some people, it's hard for them to live after it.

05:05:19.200 Sure.

05:05:19.740 I'm not saying it's...

05:05:22.080 Being essayed is a terrible thing.

05:05:24.000 Women can be victimized. 1.00

05:05:24.900 Being essayed is a terrible thing.

05:05:26.660 But I would rather...

05:05:27.960 Let's say, I'm curious what the chat thinks.

05:05:29.500 Nick, can you pull up the chat?

05:05:30.800 Oh, I don't want to see the chat.

05:05:31.880 Uh, chat.

05:05:33.420 The same scenario as you can...

05:05:36.460 Oh, it's moving.

05:05:37.440 Would you rather be...

05:05:39.020 So your choice is live, live, or be essayed.

05:05:43.640 Live or be essayed.

05:05:44.780 I'd rather live and be essayed than just...

05:05:48.180 Or have the choice of death.

05:05:50.380 I'd rather live. 0.99

05:05:51.380 Like, it would obviously suck. 0.53

05:05:54.560 I would maybe have drama.

05:05:56.280 But I would get a...

05:05:57.240 You know, I would try to move on with my life.

05:05:59.460 Yeah.

05:06:00.520 So, yeah.

05:06:02.640 I mean, I'm not saying...

05:06:05.160 Look, essay is terrible.

05:06:07.060 But...

05:06:07.700 So your argument...

05:06:09.240 Wait, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

05:06:11.920 What if it was essayed by a woman, though?

05:06:14.800 Well, that's actually...

05:06:17.600 Does add an interesting...

05:06:20.480 Well, I mean, I'd still rather live.

05:06:23.240 Why is it interesting?

05:06:24.200 I would still...

05:06:25.020 No, but it's interesting because his thing was,

05:06:28.500 well, you're essayed by someone of your same sex.

05:06:30.700 Mm-hmm.

05:06:31.800 So that kind of...

05:06:32.940 But...

05:06:33.880 So that changes the spectrum around, doesn't it?

05:06:37.420 So, like, I would take death before I took the essay by a male. 0.99

05:06:41.300 But I would not take death before I took the essay by a female, right? 0.99

05:06:47.340 Damn, this is getting deep. 0.99

05:06:48.600 Really deep. 0.99

05:06:49.120 Well, I think... 0.95

05:06:50.100 Wait, Andrew, you would rather die? 0.98

05:06:52.660 Yes.

05:06:54.020 I mean, look, it ain't ideal, but I want to keep on living.

05:06:58.340 No, I get it.

05:06:59.100 I understand.

05:07:00.020 You know what I mean?

05:07:00.760 Wait, but Andrew, you have kids.

05:07:01.860 There's no right answer to the question.

05:07:03.560 But Andrew, you have kids.

05:07:04.740 It's just a preference.

05:07:05.860 But Andrew, you have kids.

05:07:07.260 So, like, is that your genuine answer?

05:07:09.960 It's sad that they're going to have to be orphans, you know?

05:07:13.020 Oh, my God. 1.00

05:07:13.860 What the fuck? 1.00

05:07:14.240 I'm sorry. 1.00

05:07:15.280 If I had to choose, that's it.

05:07:17.580 But the thing is, though, is that if you add in the dynamic of if it's essay by a woman,

05:07:23.840 wouldn't that be far more preferable?

05:07:26.080 And so then you add in...

05:07:27.280 This is only no one in between these cheeks.

05:07:30.020 Well, okay.

05:07:30.660 So, wait, Andrew, let me double down on this.

05:07:33.280 Okay, so Hulk Hogan as a woman or, like, trans Megan Fox? 0.54

05:07:39.960 I think I could deal with the whatever female. 1.00

05:07:48.740 It doesn't matter.

05:07:49.640 As long as it's an actual female, I think I could deal with it. 1.00

05:07:51.940 But, no, I don't think...

05:07:52.920 Hulk Hogan, female. 1.00

05:07:54.540 Yeah, I think if it's, you know, the question of give me penis or give me death, it's... 1.00

05:08:00.360 I'm taking a death note on this one. 0.99

05:08:02.220 I'm sorry.

05:08:02.820 I'm still living.

05:08:03.740 I'm living in either...

05:08:05.080 So, okay, your position is what again?

05:08:09.880 You want me to repeat it for, like...

05:08:11.640 No, why not?

05:08:12.200 Women were the primary... 1.00

05:08:13.560 Are women the primary victims of war? 1.00

05:08:15.900 Are women the primary victims? 1.00

05:08:17.460 I don't agree with that wording, but yes.

05:08:19.960 Anybody agree?

05:08:20.920 Are women the primary victims of war? 1.00

05:08:21.580 No, they're not going to agree.

05:08:23.000 No, they might.

05:08:23.560 You never know.

05:08:24.560 Oh, I could hear.

05:08:25.240 I'd like our Chilean...

05:08:26.240 Do you want to weigh in on this?

05:08:33.900 No.

05:08:36.480 No.

05:08:38.580 Si.

05:08:39.560 Okay.

05:08:40.820 All right.

05:08:42.200 Oh, you had something?

05:08:43.520 No.

05:08:44.520 Malik? 0.99

05:08:45.180 Malik. 0.76

05:08:45.700 No, I don't.

05:08:47.660 Okay.

05:08:48.620 Let's do a couple chats then.

05:08:50.560 I don't know if we're going to be able to convince her.

05:08:52.220 Andrew, I don't know if you had any further back and forth on the war thing.

05:08:57.060 Women are the primary victims of war, according to her. 0.99

05:09:01.140 Yeah.

05:09:01.680 So crazy to me.

05:09:03.560 She's kind of revised her answers a little bit, so let's try to take the charitable approach.

05:09:10.160 Hold on.

05:09:10.860 Sisyphus donated $100.

05:09:13.560 Listen, Brian, I get your point about battlefield deaths, but to some extent you are still expressing

05:09:19.720 some agency in the whole ordeal.

05:09:22.220 Men wake up every day to protect and provide for their family.

05:09:29.580 I'm not really sure I understand the argument there.

05:09:31.860 I think he's saying it's like, if that's the argument, it's like the duty, right?

05:09:36.680 The duty?

05:09:37.580 You're on the side of the traditional and...

05:09:40.640 Brian Fulkook donated $100.

05:09:43.920 Brian, essayed by man.

05:09:45.980 It's such an intrusion for women by a man. 0.99

05:09:49.440 And you must raise the attacker's child.

05:09:52.760 Yeah, living is still preferable over...

05:09:57.180 Living is always going to be more preferable.

05:09:59.940 What about if they attacked your children and did stuff to your children and then let you

05:10:05.760 live?

05:10:05.900 What?

05:10:06.820 What?

05:10:07.260 It's so confused.

05:10:08.600 It's like...

05:10:09.080 Well, I mean, but they're also doing that to a man's child and then let them live, right? 0.86

05:10:14.740 So, I don't understand the argument.

05:10:17.280 The argument is, well, what if they did this to our kids?

05:10:20.660 It's like, well, it's our kids, right?

05:10:22.580 My kids, too.

05:10:23.780 So, then wouldn't the man also have to deal with the same trauma?

05:10:26.960 I mean, he wouldn't be able to witness it in person.

05:10:31.380 Really quick, I just want to address Sisyphus really quick.

05:10:33.960 I think just because men have an instinct to provide and protect for their family doesn't

05:10:43.480 mean, like, for example, Vietnam is not viewed as, like, a righteous war historically

05:10:50.560 or in current day.

05:10:52.320 So, a man who got drafted to, for example, Vietnam, you can perhaps make the case that

05:10:57.580 World War II was a bit more righteous, but a man who was drafted to go to Vietnam, like,

05:11:08.420 what were we doing in Vietnam?

05:11:13.500 I don't know.

05:11:14.680 Like...

05:11:16.320 Can I...

05:11:17.660 Well, we were busy getting netted in by the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which turned out to

05:11:21.500 be a complete and total fraud. 0.68

05:11:22.820 But, anyway, that aside...

05:11:24.840 But, you know, there was no...

05:11:30.060 When it came to Vietnam, it's like, what are we doing there?

05:11:35.460 Yeah.

05:11:36.360 It's their...

05:11:36.960 Yeah, I get it.

05:11:37.360 It's their internal conflict.

05:11:39.300 But then, like, this moves it back to the point, though, here.

05:11:42.240 So, I'm trying...

05:11:43.300 I'm going to try to do the most charitable thing that I can do.

05:11:46.240 Let's go.

05:11:46.720 And try to see...

05:11:47.640 Try to see it from your perspective.

05:11:48.980 So, if the perspective is that women are more oppressed during war than men are, you would 0.75

05:11:57.200 agree with me that women are not going to be the ones fighting the actual war.

05:12:02.540 So, the ramifications of this are going to be situational.

05:12:07.160 They're going to be based on things like food, possibilities of SA, things like this.

05:12:12.380 Not direct death.

05:12:15.840 Generally.

05:12:16.320 Generally, yeah.

05:12:18.480 Yeah, generally.

05:12:19.440 So, then the question does come down to what Brian is asking, which is, is it preferable

05:12:25.040 for a woman or a man to be SA'd or for the life to be taken?

05:12:31.620 This does become, then, the pertinent question and the hypothetical.

05:12:35.520 So, the question to you is, which one do you think is preferable for most people?

05:12:41.140 I have no idea.

05:12:41.840 None?

05:12:45.000 None?

05:12:45.720 Do you think that if most people had to choose between SA or death, that they would choose

05:12:50.180 death?

05:12:50.800 Your entire point is based on SA being worse than death.

05:12:54.000 Right.

05:12:54.480 Well, I wasn't saying, no, that's not my point at all.

05:12:57.260 I think SA is a part of war and part of what happens to women, but there's other things that 0.99

05:13:02.620 also happen to women. 0.99

05:13:03.820 I also think...

05:13:04.440 What are worse?

05:13:05.340 What are worse things that happen to women than that? 1.00

05:13:06.620 Like I said, witnessing your...

05:13:07.960 Sometimes the mental, witnessing your...

05:13:10.120 Things like that happen to your family members as well.

05:13:12.720 How would that be worse than men who are witnessing their best friends getting their faces blown

05:13:16.460 off in a war?

05:13:17.640 Can I...

05:13:18.040 They're getting drafted with their best friends?

05:13:19.920 Oh, my God.

05:13:20.820 Times, yes.

05:13:22.000 And if they're not...

05:13:22.720 No, like, they're going on the battlefield with their buddies and choosing JoJo.

05:13:25.900 They might become friends.

05:13:27.480 A lot of people join the military together.

05:13:30.440 So the question is, is how is that less traumatic than watching the men around you getting mowed

05:13:35.140 down by machine guns?

05:13:37.420 I mean, and you also have to understand, too, like, because you made the counter-argument

05:13:40.860 of, you know, if it was your child...

05:13:44.040 Kristen ate it $100.

05:13:46.640 Andrew, why would you mention the Gulf of Tonkin?

05:13:49.300 Listen, I guarantee you that the girls think that the Gulf of Tonkin is a cocktail. 1.00

05:13:56.120 Oh, also, last thing...

05:13:57.460 I don't think so.

05:13:57.820 I think Malik knows what it is.

05:13:59.100 You know what it is, right, Malik?

05:14:01.720 Sure.

05:14:02.400 Sure.

05:14:03.340 Oh, just last thing. 0.99

05:14:04.140 You have no fucking idea, do you, Malik? 1.00

05:14:05.780 No, I... 1.00

05:14:06.160 You know, I was going to give you credit, and then you ruined everything. 0.98

05:14:09.700 I believe I do, but I don't want to guess for sake of sounding like an idiot if I'm wrong. 0.92

05:14:15.560 Also, just really quick, just on the Sisyphus thing, him saying... 0.89

05:14:19.300 Men wake up every day to protect and provide.

05:14:21.600 Again, like I mentioned, Vietnam War, also the Iraq War.

05:14:25.400 You know, you've got the military-industrial complex.

05:14:27.640 Big SAS Energy donated $100.

05:14:30.960 Civilian men are the primary targets from an invading army.

05:14:34.780 The first and most likely to be dispatched because they are most capable of violent resistance.

05:14:40.240 SA happens, but is minuscule in comparison.

05:14:43.280 That is correct.

05:14:45.340 So this is an overarching historical theme as well, that generally occupied nations, the first thing that is done is either the young men are compressed into service of the occupier, enslaved in service of the occupier, or outright exterminated.

05:15:01.140 The reason for this is because it eliminates resistance of the people who can resist.

05:15:06.820 Generally, women are not exterminated but are carried off instead as trophies or, you know, some other thing happens. 0.98

05:15:15.880 But generally, they're not taken out.

05:15:18.640 It's usually young men who are taken out.

05:15:20.580 Okay.

05:15:25.700 Here, in this scenario, let's say that in a military conflict, not using any specific one, in a military conflict, 20 million men die in the conflict and 1 million women are acid.

05:15:38.820 Which is worse?

05:15:40.720 20 million dying.

05:15:43.640 Okay.

05:15:44.380 So let's just assume that that's the case for all World War I and World War II. 0.56

05:15:48.600 Those are the stats.

05:15:49.400 We're assuming, yes.

05:15:52.040 You think it's higher?

05:15:53.600 I don't know.

05:15:54.780 I don't know.

05:15:55.340 I'm not talking about SA and just SA.

05:15:57.720 I'm talking about death as well.

05:15:59.100 I'm talking about all of that.

05:16:00.780 It's all captured in.

05:16:02.360 So all of these conditions, though, are shared except this one condition, generally.

05:16:07.860 So almost every condition that you're talking about is a shared condition.

05:16:10.860 Starvation would be a shared condition of the populace.

05:16:14.100 If you're talking about watching loved ones die, that would be a shared condition of the populace.

05:16:18.980 All of these would be shared conditions with the exception of this one thing, which is SA.

05:16:23.460 That's why we're narrowing in on it.

05:16:24.960 Because anything that you would attribute to a thing bad happening to a female population would be the same exact bad thing that would be happening to the men of that population as well.

05:16:35.480 I mean, but wouldn't it kind of somewhat be considered shared?

05:16:41.400 Because it's like the point I was trying to make is that in her argument, she was saying that in the sense of children being a part of that group, the men wouldn't be there to witness it.

05:16:54.260 So it wouldn't be as harsh on them as it would be for the women and the children.

05:16:57.160 Well, it could be worse, actually.

05:17:00.520 Imagine if you're in combat and you get a letter that says, hey, your children were slaughtered by the enemy.

05:17:07.740 Yes.

05:17:08.060 And you're not even there because you were in the front lines.

05:17:10.140 I think that in some ways that might even be worse.

05:17:13.280 That was the point I was trying to make is that, you know, coming home, it's like if you get the chance to come home to find out, you know, your family's gone, whether it be mother, wife, sister, children, whoever, you know, would that entail a worse response and make that more of a reasonable victimhood than the SA itself?

05:17:39.220 That's just hot take.

05:17:40.720 Well, I don't know.

05:17:43.320 There's not with what you're talking about here.

05:17:46.480 There's not a right or wrong answer.

05:17:48.560 Right.

05:17:49.640 You know what I mean?

05:17:50.500 At least in this particular instance.

05:17:52.800 But there is a right answer, I think, when it comes to death versus SA and warfare and who's targeted and who's affected more.

05:18:01.800 And it's very clear that men are affected far more by warfare between nations than women are.

05:18:08.680 Women are the protected class. 1.00

05:18:11.060 And so are children.

05:18:12.080 That's why men go to do the fighting. 0.96

05:18:14.140 And that's why generally they do it away from their homelands because they want to protect the women.

05:18:17.600 If their homeland is occupied, it's usually the young men who get put to the sword and not the women who instead are considered trophies.

05:18:25.320 There's a reason why, you know, when Vikings conquer different areas, they put the men to the sword and took the women with them. 0.97

05:18:32.060 The women got to live. 1.00

05:18:36.740 Are women the primary victims of war? 1.00

05:18:39.480 Forcibly.

05:18:40.160 They got to live under the capture of new people in that case scenario.

05:18:45.700 Yeah, but wouldn't that be better than the alternative of death?

05:18:49.980 That's the question.

05:18:50.960 That's more of, again, it's, that would depend on your own mentality of like what you define living is.

05:18:58.120 Let's remove all hypothetical scenarios.

05:19:00.620 Let's just look at World War II.

05:19:02.680 I don't know the extent of your knowledge on World War II, but whatever you know, you know that there's been significant military casualties and it's over 20 million.

05:19:13.140 They're all men. 0.99

05:19:13.880 And given, given, given that you know that in World War II, who would you say was the primary victim of war, men or women?

05:19:21.840 Of the U.S. men?

05:19:23.240 No, no, no, no, no, no.

05:19:24.120 Just in global, globally.

05:19:28.560 Based off of what I know from World War II.

05:19:32.880 Well, I can't, I can't, it's just, I don't know any of the statistics around it.

05:19:38.620 I said women initially saw them as they were women.

05:19:41.740 Okay.

05:19:41.940 What about World War, World War I?

05:19:44.860 Who's the primary victim of war in World War I?

05:19:49.620 I'll just stick with women. 1.00

05:19:51.160 Women? 1.00

05:19:51.600 How about just all war, if we just add up all the wars together, who's the primary victim of war in general?

05:19:59.040 I don't think either gender should be who's more victimized. 0.98

05:20:04.420 I think in war, everyone's a victim.

05:20:07.580 So I don't even.

05:20:08.300 But who's.

05:20:08.900 Someone has it worse.

05:20:09.660 Who is the primary victim of war?

05:20:13.580 That's the question.

05:20:14.500 Can I ask?

05:20:15.360 Hold on, no, no, no.

05:20:15.940 Hold on.

05:20:16.360 Go ahead.

05:20:16.700 Think of it from your progressive values of intersectionality during warfare.

05:20:22.220 Right?

05:20:22.740 Just think of it as intersectionality during warfare.

05:20:25.500 And then you can determine who's the most oppressed based on all sorts of contributing factors.

05:20:31.120 Based on warfare?

05:20:32.040 Define which sex is the most oppressed during war.

05:20:36.860 During war.

05:20:39.320 Who is the primary victim?

05:20:41.500 I said women. 0.99

05:20:42.460 I'm going to stick with women. 1.00

05:20:44.100 Globally throughout all time.

05:20:46.100 Who is the primary victim of war, men or women?

05:20:49.960 I'm going to say women.

05:20:51.540 Okay.

05:20:51.800 Why?

05:20:53.000 And it's based off all the points I already made.

05:20:56.120 So let's say if.

05:20:59.860 I mean, I don't even know.

05:21:02.600 Can I bring up a similar example?

05:21:04.600 So if there's a murder case, okay, forget about war.

05:21:09.540 If someone's murdered, all right, and just say the same person who murdered that man.

05:21:15.260 He had a girlfriend and a kid back at home, and now they're single.

05:21:18.160 And she's the single mom because her boyfriend, her husband, was just murdered.

05:21:22.400 Who's the victim in that scenario?

05:21:25.620 In the scenario of.

05:21:26.920 That someone got murdered, and now there's a single mom raising a kid alone. 0.94

05:21:30.900 That's actually good.

05:21:32.960 And I can't say both are the victim.

05:21:36.140 Who's the victim?

05:21:37.780 I think they're both victims.

05:21:39.560 No, no, no, no, no, hold on.

05:21:40.820 Okay.

05:21:41.240 So you're, if I have this right, your question to her is, and I, so, okay, you have, do you

05:21:46.840 have a brother?

05:21:47.760 Yes.

05:21:48.760 Okay. 0.99

05:21:49.380 Your brother gets murdered. 0.98

05:21:51.380 Wow.

05:21:51.820 Who's the primary victim of him being murdered?

05:21:56.660 My brother.

05:21:58.520 Is that your answer, or are you asking a question?

05:22:01.280 My brother is the victim.

05:22:02.280 Your brother's the primary victim.

05:22:04.020 It's not your.

05:22:04.460 But you're also a victim.

05:22:06.160 But you're, yeah.

05:22:06.940 Right?

05:22:07.080 I think my family members are also victims, yes.

05:22:08.940 What if you, let me ask you a question.

05:22:10.280 Right.

05:22:10.400 But the primary victim is your brother.

05:22:14.360 Why would your brother be the primary victim?

05:22:17.280 Let's say you even witnessed the murder.

05:22:20.300 Who is the primary victim?

05:22:21.860 I'm confused about this point, how it correlates to the last point.

05:22:25.680 It's kind of related, but hold on.

05:22:27.140 So, okay.

05:22:28.100 You witness your brother being murdered.

05:22:30.960 Who's the primary victim?

05:22:33.680 My brother.

05:22:34.520 He's, yeah.

05:22:35.140 But you witnessed it.

05:22:36.120 I assume it was traumatic.

05:22:37.560 Of course it was.

05:22:40.680 And I'm a victim, and I have to live on being a victim.

05:22:44.620 But you had, you had.

05:22:45.460 Well, which was preferable, like, from the standpoint of you?

05:22:50.380 That you're still alive?

05:22:52.540 Isn't it preferable that you're still alive in this instance?

05:22:55.700 Um, so which one's more preferred?

05:23:00.260 Witnessing, I guess.

05:23:01.460 Depends.

05:23:02.000 Yes.

05:23:03.620 Depends if I'm perfect.

05:23:05.340 Natalia, thank you for that.

05:23:06.620 That was actually a very good, that was a very good way to frame it.

05:23:09.680 Multiply that by, like, a couple million.

05:23:11.220 Look, I don't know if we're going to be able to convince her boys.

05:23:14.500 Yeah, I think we're going to try.

05:23:15.040 She's a tough one.

05:23:15.980 Yeah.

05:23:17.020 I want you, who's driving back?

05:23:19.040 Because I know it's you.

05:23:19.760 She's her.

05:23:20.300 She's driving back.

05:23:20.860 We're not going to make it.

05:23:22.060 Done for.

05:23:23.040 Wait, you.

05:23:24.080 We all were all driving together.

05:23:25.200 We were all driving together.

05:23:25.860 Oh, you guys all drove together?

05:23:26.440 I'm driving by myself.

05:23:27.500 I don't know her.

05:23:28.020 Oh, no, I'm.

05:23:29.800 You can come if you want to.

05:23:30.740 No, it's you, you, you guys are friends, right?

05:23:33.460 Who's driving?

05:23:35.040 Oh, her. 0.96

05:23:35.320 JoJo.

05:23:35.640 I was going to say, maybe one of you drive, and then I think this is on Netflix.

05:23:39.520 Have her watch, All Quiet on the Western Front, while driving back, and then she can,

05:23:45.380 after seeing the barbarism and brutality of war, maybe, you know, you might think, oh, you

05:23:53.880 know, maybe it was the men who had it a little rougher.

05:23:58.440 Saving Private Ryan, watch the first scene of Saving Private Ryan, that's a good one,

05:24:03.000 but the whole All Quiet on the Western Front movie on Netflix, very good.

05:24:06.800 Yeah, but you have to understand that women were riveting screws into pieces of sheet metal, 1.00

05:24:13.760 and so it's equal.

05:24:15.440 It's, I mean, you can just, you can see that riveting screws into sheet metal and dealing

05:24:20.460 with bloody wounds is the same as storming the beaches of Normandy.

05:24:24.580 Now, that might seem absurd to the average man who's out there listening, but, you know,

05:24:30.600 who cares?

05:24:31.160 It's really just, it's how we feel.

05:24:33.260 You know, and things that give you the ick, old man.

05:24:36.360 The ick is how we feel, that's how we're going to do society.

05:24:39.320 I'm shocked this is coming from you as well, because you said you'd rather die than be R-worded. 0.94

05:24:44.540 Yeah, by my own sex? 0.98

05:24:46.520 Yeah, so, he'd prefer nice, beefy women. 1.00

05:24:51.040 Yeah, there's a distinction, I think, between men in SA and women in SA.

05:24:59.080 So you think it's...

05:24:59.820 There's a distinction to be made under preference, and in this particular condition,

05:25:03.820 I'm not even sure most men would agree with me, it's just my preference is that I would

05:25:08.640 rather take the bullet than that.

05:25:12.360 All right. 0.99

05:25:13.180 It's like a woman's bullet than a man's bullet. 1.00

05:25:17.340 I have a question for you.

05:25:18.880 What's your, how do you say your name again?

05:25:20.360 What's your first name?

05:25:20.900 Jojo.

05:25:21.140 Jojo.

05:25:23.840 How many women do you think have had trench foot? 1.00

05:25:27.180 Oh, my God.

05:25:28.400 You know, trench foot.

05:25:30.360 What about, you know, like, mustard gas, you know?

05:25:34.080 World War I.

05:25:34.980 This is crazy.

05:25:35.520 Just a little, you know, nine months in the trenches.

05:25:40.040 A little nine months, just a little casual nine months in the trenches.

05:25:43.620 A little mustard gas.

05:25:44.880 You know, a little trench foot.

05:25:46.900 You know.

05:25:47.280 How many women did you say died in World War II? 0.99

05:25:50.320 Like 15?

05:25:50.940 There were no...

05:25:52.180 Six years.

05:25:52.700 There were no...

05:25:54.260 I feel like I read there was some Russian or Soviet...

05:25:57.940 Or no, no, no.

05:25:58.440 Wait, that was...

05:25:59.520 There was a...

05:26:00.840 Well, I know in World War II, there was like a small group of Soviet soldier, female soldiers,

05:26:07.780 but there might have been a really small something in World War I, but...

05:26:11.080 That amount.

05:26:13.920 She's like, that one. 1.00

05:26:15.520 Jojo, all of your points are, but the woman were sad, but how'd the woman feel?

05:26:20.800 The men are dead.

05:26:22.100 They don't even get the right to feel.

05:26:24.380 They're dead.

05:26:26.140 Dead?

05:26:26.500 Yeah, the woman felt... 1.00

05:26:28.220 They're dead.

05:26:29.000 The woman felt immense, like, trauma.

05:26:32.400 Stop it.

05:26:32.720 Oh, my God.

05:26:33.940 The woman felt immense trauma watching horrible things happen to their children or themselves,

05:26:37.880 but the men are dead.

05:26:39.500 They don't even get the opportunity to have an opinion on it.

05:26:42.620 Or imagine it.

05:26:44.440 Jojo.

05:26:44.840 This is a matter of opinion, and you can live with that kind of her opinion.

05:26:49.400 Jojo, you have to promise me you're going to go watch Saving Private Ryan and All Quiet

05:26:55.580 on the Western Front.

05:26:57.140 I think that one's available on Netflix.

05:26:58.960 If you haven't...

05:26:59.400 You have to promise me you're going to watch that after the show.

05:27:01.640 The last thing on the war thing, and then we're going to move on.

05:27:05.660 Have you seen Tales of a Geisha?

05:27:07.360 Let me... 1.00

05:27:07.740 What the fuck? 1.00

05:27:10.220 Bro, what? 1.00

05:27:11.180 Okay.

05:27:11.720 That's also...

05:27:12.520 Are you familiar with the current conflict in Ukraine?

05:27:14.300 It's also about World War II, but it's about women.

05:27:18.120 The women's side. 1.00

05:27:19.800 The women were sad.

05:27:21.020 Thought their husbands died.

05:27:23.140 They were sad.

05:27:23.820 At home.

05:27:24.260 Are you familiar with the Ukraine conflict?

05:27:26.380 Yes.

05:27:26.660 Were they putting screws in sheet metal in the movie?

05:27:30.100 I mean, you guys could watch it.

05:27:31.620 Okay.

05:27:32.480 So if I were to...

05:27:33.600 You give me homework, I'll give you homework.

05:27:34.620 Did you actually watch the movie?

05:27:36.620 What?

05:27:37.220 The Tales of a Geisha?

05:27:38.000 Yeah.

05:27:38.620 Yeah.

05:27:39.140 Okay, what was it about?

05:27:40.700 Just the war stories of like four different women. 1.00

05:27:43.940 Name a single female character from the movie.

05:27:47.740 I haven't seen it in years.

05:27:49.400 I saw it when I was young.

05:27:52.860 A single character.

05:27:54.640 Just one.

05:27:55.240 I don't remember.

05:27:57.260 Don't remember?

05:27:57.860 Oh my God.

05:27:59.340 All right.

05:28:00.000 Okay.

05:28:00.840 It's okay, birdie.

05:28:01.680 Does a scene stand out?

05:28:03.120 Is there a scene you can give me from the movie that stands out to you?

05:28:07.140 Of Tales of a Geisha?

05:28:08.080 Yeah.

05:28:09.260 They were...

05:28:10.760 She was protecting her children in it with... 1.00

05:28:13.820 Who was?

05:28:14.120 They had to travel...

05:28:14.740 I don't remember the character names.

05:28:16.380 I don't remember...

05:28:16.940 Oh, okay.

05:28:17.340 All right, all right.

05:28:17.860 Go ahead.

05:28:18.280 Go ahead.

05:28:19.440 They had to travel a long distance to avoid the soldiers who were raiding the villages in

05:28:25.040 R-Wording.

05:28:25.560 Many miles.

05:28:26.180 Is this where you got your knowledge on the war about from that movie?

05:28:32.480 That is a diabolical laugh. 1.00

05:28:33.940 You should be wearing this shit, not me. 1.00

05:28:36.920 Did they manage to escape? 1.00

05:28:42.700 I did not feel like all of your knowledge on the war was from that movie now, that you

05:28:47.300 just mentioned that.

05:28:48.560 This is going to be the craziest drive home ever.

05:28:52.340 Speak about drive home.

05:28:54.060 It's a little bit late.

05:28:55.100 Okay.

05:28:55.360 Let me read...

05:28:56.500 Here, Madison, can I have you read this chat?

05:28:58.560 I have one last thing.

05:29:00.620 In relation to oppression, a new take is poor men shouldn't be allowed to date, marry, have

05:29:05.300 kids.

05:29:05.700 If you can't afford a date, stay single, and work on yourself.

05:29:09.060 What does the table think about this?

05:29:10.600 Going around the table on this, and then I'll come back really quick on one thing.

05:29:13.320 Go ahead.

05:29:15.080 I think that's crazy, but I kind of said that earlier.

05:29:20.020 Poor men should not be allowed to date.

05:29:21.700 Agree, disagree?

05:29:22.660 I disagree.

05:29:23.020 Um, I say that if, I mean, if you're not financially stable, one, you probably shouldn't be having

05:29:27.320 kids, but I mean, you should be able to date as long as you're working on yourself.

05:29:31.780 Okay.

05:29:32.360 You can definitely date.

05:29:33.700 Yeah.

05:29:34.760 Wait, your mic needs to be tilted up.

05:29:36.480 I'm so sorry.

05:29:36.960 It's fine.

05:29:37.360 Go ahead.

05:29:39.340 I mean, obviously you can date, but I don't think you should.

05:29:42.160 If you don't have anything in your life established, you should work on yourself before looking

05:29:46.000 for a partner.

05:29:47.000 Sure.

05:29:48.180 I think it's not just specific to men, but yeah, if you can't afford anything, dates

05:29:53.020 probably wouldn't be fun, and you probably should work on yourself.

05:29:56.860 I disagree.

05:29:58.120 Okay.

05:29:58.400 Um, I believe that they should be able to date still, maybe not have a family and maybe

05:30:05.060 be a little bit more established.

05:30:08.040 Yeah.

05:30:08.540 Not heroin addicts.

05:30:10.620 Exactly.

05:30:12.100 Thank you for that.

05:30:14.460 I heavily disagree.

05:30:15.640 I don't think you have to have your life established before you get into relationship.

05:30:19.460 I think you could get into relationship and establish.

05:30:22.200 It's specifically said about having children, too.

05:30:24.620 Oh, yeah.

05:30:25.040 You should have children.

05:30:26.540 Like, you should get your life sorted, or have a partner that has their life sorted,

05:30:30.940 at least.

05:30:31.480 But so if it's fair-

05:30:32.460 I think you can get your life sorted together.

05:30:33.240 If it's fair for a woman to say that poor men shouldn't be allowed to date, then is it 1.00

05:30:40.520 okay for men to say that women who weigh over 150 pounds shouldn't date?

05:30:46.860 Whoa, whoa.

05:30:47.160 150?

05:30:47.820 How much do you think I weigh?

05:30:49.060 I am in very good shape.

05:30:50.240 Look, I mean, that's actually-

05:30:52.680 Superior genes, bro.

05:30:53.120 That's being pretty generous, too.

05:30:54.980 150?

05:30:55.500 That's being really generous.

05:30:57.420 Fine.

05:30:57.940 More than 130.

05:30:59.000 You shouldn't be allowed to date.

05:31:00.360 Okay, then-

05:31:00.880 You could say whatever you want.

05:31:01.800 I guess I'm undateable.

05:31:02.620 I weigh more than 130.

05:31:04.420 Yeah.

05:31:05.220 And I am very fit, so.

05:31:08.860 It's kind of-

05:31:10.440 You can literally see my ribs through my shirt.

05:31:12.520 I'm not saying that's my-

05:31:13.460 And you're saying I'm fat.

05:31:13.680 I'm not saying that's my position.

05:31:16.940 I'm just saying, if it's okay for women to say it, is it okay for men to say that? 0.79

05:31:22.420 I think the weight is both ways, though.

05:31:24.540 If you say, oh, men shouldn't date fat women, then women shouldn't date fat men. 1.00

05:31:29.440 Yeah, there you go. 0.98

05:31:30.660 Cool.

05:31:31.560 Or they can date each other.

05:31:33.040 Yeah.

05:31:33.320 So, really quick, what's going on in Ukraine, okay?

05:31:37.980 Oh, God.

05:31:39.440 So, all the Ukraine, all the Ukrainian women, get this, right? 1.00

05:31:44.340 All the Ukrainian women could leave the country. 1.00

05:31:46.960 This was when, you know, shit hit the fan. 0.99

05:31:49.520 All the men from, it was like 18 to 60, maybe 65, I forgot exactly what. 0.99

05:31:57.000 They had to stay in the country. 0.69

05:31:58.880 A lot of them got drafted.

05:32:00.280 They had to stay.

05:32:01.420 Okay.

05:32:01.720 So, in Ukraine, this current conflict, who would you say is the primary victim of the

05:32:10.820 Ukrainian war, men or women, knowing that I just told you that all the women could leave 1.00

05:32:16.340 the country and all the men had to stay?

05:32:18.300 And the vast majority of the military casualties are men in the current conflict.

05:32:27.400 Men.

05:32:27.800 Who's the primary?

05:32:28.520 Oh! 0.60

05:32:29.160 Oh! 0.60

05:32:29.780 There we go.

05:32:30.740 A little progress here.

05:32:32.160 I had to use something modern, something recent.

05:32:34.840 Okay.

05:32:35.320 And you know what's funny about the Ukrainian war? 0.99

05:32:37.440 While the Ukrainian men were being killed.

05:32:41.020 Malik, do you have any more of those bananas so we can give her a treat?

05:32:46.360 Good behavior.

05:32:47.280 I'll get her from when we leave.

05:32:49.620 It's a joke.

05:32:50.620 It's a...

05:32:50.840 Calm down.

05:32:51.440 I'm kidding.

05:32:52.240 I'm kidding.

05:32:53.080 That's a crazy joke, dude.

05:32:54.840 Oh, my God.

05:32:55.900 So, now does it change...

05:32:57.700 Now you can go tell your feminist friends about it and they can all be upset. 1.00

05:33:01.000 Put it in their standpoint theory books.

05:33:03.520 Does it change anything?

05:33:05.580 I've never said women are better. 0.98

05:33:07.660 I've always...

05:33:08.240 I would just...

05:33:08.800 My total point, my opinion is about fairness, right?

05:33:12.360 You go draft women. 1.00

05:33:13.240 Go draft men.

05:33:13.900 Like, both are on the same level.

05:33:15.380 Wait, wait.

05:33:15.760 Hold on.

05:33:15.980 I've always said that.

05:33:17.240 Hold on.

05:33:17.640 Hold on.

05:33:17.980 Hold on.

05:33:18.220 So, what if I told you that all the women, a lot of women, Ukrainian women, they went off 1.00

05:33:25.760 to Stockholm and Sweden and the UK, France, wherever.

05:33:31.880 They were up on Tinder and up in the club while the males in Ukraine were getting decimated,

05:33:40.480 destroyed.

05:33:41.600 Is that evidence of female privilege? 1.00

05:33:44.200 If, in a case scenario, you're saying every woman from Ukraine is parting it up in the club... 0.81

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05:34:09.820 Thank you.

05:34:11.040 Thank you.

05:34:11.800 Congratulations on being sober.

05:34:13.360 Your point you're saying about...

05:34:16.440 In the case where every woman is parting it up in all these other countries... 1.00

05:34:19.860 Not every woman, but... 1.00

05:34:20.860 That's what you've said, and the men are fighting in the war, in the trenches.

05:34:25.540 Yes.

05:34:27.080 I agree.

05:34:28.180 Okay.

05:34:28.820 In that case.

05:34:30.440 Woke.

05:34:30.980 Yep.

05:34:34.080 I don't think you've still stated a bigger female grievance compared to... 1.00

05:34:40.020 Because my original point where this all stemmed from was that forced military conscription,

05:34:44.840 the sort of gendered participation of men in the military, is a bigger grievance...

05:34:52.200 Forced military conscription.

05:34:53.560 Bigger grievance than all of women's collective grievances combined. 1.00

05:34:57.940 A bigger grievance than, like, war?

05:35:00.600 Yeah.

05:35:00.800 And men being drafted in war?

05:35:02.520 Yeah.

05:35:03.620 Yeah.

05:35:04.340 Yeah.

05:35:05.000 Yeah.

05:35:06.160 Yeah, she. 0.93

05:35:07.280 Yeah.

05:35:07.580 Yeah.

05:35:07.680 I don't really have a bigger grievance.

05:35:12.920 Okay, so men are more oppressed than women.

05:35:14.380 Checkmate.

05:35:14.900 No.

05:35:16.520 Pawned.

05:35:17.420 You need, like, a chessboard.

05:35:19.300 No.

05:35:20.180 No?

05:35:21.340 It's just, like...

05:35:22.440 But you failed to state a grievance that is worse than forced military conscription.

05:35:28.000 But, like, percentage-wise, how many...

05:35:32.360 Or, statistically, how many times have men been drafted to go to war?

05:35:39.060 Forever.

05:35:40.120 You realize that this...

05:35:41.060 Every war.

05:35:41.940 That's how it happens.

05:35:43.020 Men have been drafted, but women get to stay home. 1.00

05:35:45.120 In the case of the U.S.

05:35:47.320 In the history of ever.

05:35:48.680 It is literally a war crime to attack women while men get shot.

05:35:53.620 I've never gotten a letter to be drafted.

05:35:56.300 Yeah.

05:35:56.400 Well, no.

05:35:56.780 I meant actual...

05:35:57.920 The only thing women get forced to do is jury duty. 1.00

05:36:01.920 Every single war, almost.

05:36:03.960 And men have been forced to go to war.

05:36:06.540 So...

05:36:06.780 Yeah.

05:36:07.980 My point is...

05:36:08.920 Time-wise, right?

05:36:11.940 It doesn't happen...

05:36:13.940 Go ahead.

05:36:15.700 Go ahead, Karen.

05:36:15.800 ...on a daily basis, this...

05:36:18.100 It doesn't matter.

05:36:19.460 It doesn't matter.

05:36:21.160 It happens when it's really, really, really bad.

05:36:23.360 Yeah.

05:36:24.220 Yeah.

05:36:24.840 I agree.

05:36:24.960 And then women are not forced to get sent off to war for various reasons. 1.00

05:36:31.260 Well, my point is, with this, is there's daily things that happen, right?

05:36:35.880 To women. 0.64

05:36:36.920 Okay.

05:36:37.520 I'm not saying all women.

05:36:38.520 I never said that.

05:36:39.440 Okay, hold on.

05:36:40.060 Let me engage with you on this.

05:36:41.120 Okay, so catcalling is bad.

05:36:43.540 And that almost exclusively is targeted towards women, correct?

05:36:47.100 That's like war, though.

05:36:48.320 That's like war, though, Brian.

05:36:49.400 Yeah.

05:36:49.900 I don't care.

05:36:50.600 So let's say catcalling...

05:36:52.120 In the beaches of Normandy, that's like catcalling.

05:36:54.560 Let's say catcalling happens to thousands of women a day. 1.00

05:37:00.480 Every single day.

05:37:01.860 Okay.

05:37:02.160 But men only get drafted sometime.

05:37:05.480 Which is worse?

05:37:07.120 Catcalling or drafting?

05:37:08.460 Yeah.

05:37:09.000 No, I'm asking you a question.

05:37:11.120 No, it's a serious question.

05:37:12.160 No, which one's worse?

05:37:13.800 I'm going to have to say definitely the catcalling.

05:37:16.160 It's a joke.

05:37:16.940 Yes, I know.

05:37:17.700 Obviously, I can make jokes.

05:37:20.680 Not good ones.

05:37:21.820 Drafting.

05:37:22.360 Yes.

05:37:22.960 All right.

05:37:23.340 Not good ones.

05:37:24.120 Yeah, not good ones.

05:37:24.660 All right.

05:37:25.080 It's tough.

05:37:25.660 All right.

05:37:25.880 Let's read a couple chats.

05:37:26.900 Let's read some chats.

05:37:27.800 Did we read...

05:37:28.420 Did we read this one?

05:37:30.360 No.

05:37:31.280 Maddie?

05:37:31.580 Maddie?

05:37:31.980 F, yeah.

05:37:33.080 When a Mexican general is invited to invade a country and his only answer is C, holy F. 0.86

05:37:38.920 I feel like a naked man at the wall of the Alamo.

05:37:41.740 Please invade this country. 0.80

05:37:43.580 I don't know what that means.

05:37:44.500 Holy F.

05:37:44.800 I don't know.

05:37:45.300 Well, I don't forget.

05:37:45.900 No.

05:37:47.540 Thank you, the official prince.

05:37:48.720 To the five-foot guy, forget these delusional, westernized female standards. 1.00

05:37:53.780 You build and protect the world they live in, and that makes you.

05:37:56.680 Better than them, none of these girls deserve what they asked for. 1.00

05:37:59.660 Leave America so your height and money won't matter. 0.95

05:38:02.120 Period.

05:38:03.380 Thank you, Jazz.

05:38:04.200 The money will still probably matter, not going to lie.

05:38:06.100 The official prince, thank you.

05:38:08.540 She's wrong.

05:38:09.260 She's unbelievably wrong.

05:38:10.820 Entire provinces and cities around...

05:38:13.860 Sorry, I fumbled that.

05:38:15.180 ...have zero law against women. 1.00

05:38:16.980 She's talking about, essentially, the D.C., Washington areas.

05:38:21.120 Most of Iran has lots of respect for female autonomy. 0.94

05:38:25.340 Iran is deeply misrepresented.

05:38:27.460 I was saying the Middle East in general.

05:38:28.940 I just used Iran as an example, because you do see this happening a lot in Iran.

05:38:33.000 But it's the Middle East in general.

05:38:34.680 What do you see happening a lot in Iran?

05:38:36.320 Women being oppressed.

05:38:38.380 How?

05:38:40.580 How?

05:38:41.500 By not having nearly as many rights as men. 0.96

05:38:45.000 And a lot of the countries predominant...

05:38:47.160 Yeah, but you don't believe in egalitarianism.

05:38:50.280 What do you care?

05:38:52.460 I was using this, that as an example, that Jojo said she felt oppressed.

05:38:58.320 Oh, my God.

05:38:58.700 Women are oppressed in the U.S. 1.00

05:39:00.560 You felt that women are oppressed in the U.S. 1.00

05:39:03.980 And I said actual women being oppressed, you would see in the Middle East,

05:39:07.360 especially, like, more Arabic countries.

05:39:09.840 Oh, you mean by her standard?

05:39:12.240 Not by your standard?

05:39:13.800 No, by the standard, like, by oppression in general.

05:39:17.540 Like, in the Middle East, women are oppressed. 0.98

05:39:20.080 Yeah, but is that good or bad?

05:39:21.620 That's bad.

05:39:23.820 Oppression's bad.

05:39:25.360 Like, what?

05:39:26.180 So you do want egalitarianism?

05:39:30.560 No, I don't think men and women should be equal, but they should have equal rights.

05:39:35.120 Okay, so how's that not egalitarianism?

05:39:37.380 Honestly, I don't know the exact definition of egalitarianism.

05:39:42.360 Well, it's really strange, because earlier you said that feminism, from your purview, was egalitarianism.

05:39:47.340 And here you are, saying that you're not a feminist, but want egalitarianism. 0.96

05:39:51.120 So now I'm confused, Mallory.

05:39:52.900 You're putting words in my mouth.

05:39:54.720 Nope.

05:39:55.200 First of all.

05:39:55.680 I'm not.

05:39:56.500 I'm specifically not.

05:39:57.740 Did you not define feminism as being egalitarianism?

05:40:02.300 I was asking if Brian would consider it egalitarianism.

05:40:05.720 What do you consider it to be, if it's not egalitarianism, then?

05:40:09.800 I think feminism is the idea that men and women should be equal. 0.97

05:40:13.180 I do not believe in egalitarianism.

05:40:14.020 No, that's it.

05:40:14.580 How's that not egalitarianism?

05:40:18.100 Being equal and having equal rights are not the same thing. 0.98

05:40:21.460 What does egalitarianism mean?

05:40:24.380 Here, let's pull up a definition now of egalitarianism.

05:40:28.060 If you had to guess, what would you say that it meant?

05:40:31.360 Equality.

05:40:32.880 Equality.

05:40:33.280 Would that include equal rights?

05:40:35.780 Yes, that would include equal rights.

05:40:37.420 So the doctrine that all people are equal and deserve equal rights, that is the definition

05:40:43.740 of egalitarianism that you believe in, and you've said that egalitarianism was feminism. 0.99

05:40:51.240 Yes.

05:40:51.840 Yes.

05:40:52.800 And you believe in egalitarianism.

05:40:54.980 Yes.

05:40:55.680 Therefore, you would be what?

05:40:59.600 I do not have feminist views.

05:41:01.540 I think that men and women should have equal rights.

05:41:04.620 By your definition earlier, you said...

05:41:06.360 No, no, no, no, no, no.

05:41:07.060 You can throw in other words.

05:41:08.020 I can too, Andrew. 1.00

05:41:08.720 Shut up. 1.00

05:41:09.640 So... 1.00

05:41:09.960 Okay, well, okay.

05:41:10.840 Well, then define what egalitarianism means and how it's not...

05:41:14.200 It doesn't mean feminism. 1.00

05:41:15.640 So you just read the definition that egalitarianism means equality.

05:41:20.120 So I guess...

05:41:20.540 Nope.

05:41:21.060 I'll read it again.

05:41:22.140 It's the doctrine that all people are equal and deserve equal rights.

05:41:26.020 Okay.

05:41:26.620 And I agree with half of that.

05:41:28.320 I think all people should have equal rights, but I do not think men and women are equal. 1.00

05:41:32.760 For instance, with the war example that we've been arguing with about for the past hour

05:41:37.880 or so, men getting drafted into war should never be something women do not belong on the 0.99

05:41:44.540 Warfield.

05:41:45.420 I don't think they should be completely equal in every right.

05:41:48.560 Well, that doesn't sound like...

05:41:49.560 I think...

05:41:49.820 All that that sounds like is a pushback against equal rights.

05:41:55.020 What is the point you're trying to make, Andrew?

05:41:57.100 My point is, is that if you define egalitarianism as feminism and you believe in egalitarianism...

05:42:01.640 I did not say that.

05:42:02.640 Which is broadly defined not as equity, but is defined specifically as equal rights...

05:42:08.400 Feminism is extreme equality. 1.00

05:42:09.220 Then it sounds like, Malik, you're a feminist. 1.00

05:42:13.160 By your logic.

05:42:14.540 That's all.

05:42:14.980 I'm just pointing this out.

05:42:15.780 No, you're twitching my...

05:42:16.520 Checkmate.

05:42:17.260 No, it's not a checkmate.

05:42:18.360 Again, it's not a checkmate.

05:42:20.800 Feminism, my understanding of it, which you said I'm incorrect on, by the way, but feminism 1.00

05:42:26.380 to my understanding is extreme equality.

05:42:27.120 Yes, I was right about that too, but I'm just saying by your standards.

05:42:30.080 But you have educated me that feminism means a female supremacy. 0.99

05:42:35.580 Yes.

05:42:35.720 So equality is not female supremacy, Andrew.

05:42:39.180 Checkmate.

05:42:39.600 That's right.

05:42:40.520 So then, if that's true, then your earlier definition of egalitarianism being feminism

05:42:45.860 was incorrect when Brian told you it was incorrect, and you were arguing with him about it being

05:42:50.800 correct, right, Malik?

05:42:51.800 You can watch the video back.

05:42:53.880 I asked Brian if he would consider that the same.

05:42:56.860 I never, to my memory, stated feminism is egalitarianism.

05:43:00.520 Oh, no, the reason you were in the argument is because you stated emphatically that that's

05:43:04.600 what feminism was, and Brian said, but pushed back and said, no, no, no, that's not feminism. 1.00

05:43:09.400 It doesn't just mean egalitarianism, and you were like, no, it does.

05:43:12.920 I have to argue with you now, right?

05:43:15.240 I take notes through this whole thing so that I have good timestamps for my show.

05:43:19.260 That's how I know what you said.

05:43:20.620 Lawyered.

05:43:21.060 Like I just stated, my understanding of feminism was extreme equality on both rights and gender 0.98

05:43:32.700 roles, more specifically the gender roles.

05:43:35.400 Malik, take the L. 1.00

05:43:36.240 I'm not taking the L because I'm not wrong, Brian.

05:43:39.320 She's not taking the L.

05:43:40.800 I'm not taking the L.

05:43:41.700 I'm not taking the L.

05:43:41.740 We're so worried about this for hours.

05:43:43.520 I'll just let it go.

05:43:44.540 Just for the sake of time, I do have to move on here.

05:43:47.580 Maddie, can you read this chat?

05:43:48.660 To change the subject, let's talk about how men's mental health isn't talked about, nor

05:43:53.700 is it an issue.

05:43:56.520 I, how a man can be falsely accused of SA, and the only thing that happens is a man's

05:44:02.860 life ruined.

05:44:03.760 A lot of false accusations.

05:44:05.660 A lot of men having their lives ruined over a lie.

05:44:10.440 What's that lyric from a Tupac song?

05:44:12.680 A lot of real G's doing time, because a groupie bit the truth and told a lie.

05:44:21.420 Bent the truth, excuse me.

05:44:22.920 Bent the truth and told a lie.

05:44:26.020 My dear R.I.P. Tupac.

05:44:28.760 Yeah, it's, no, but false accusations, absolutely terrible, ruined men's lives, and certain types

05:44:38.800 of accusations seem to be just by mere virtue of the accusations being made are, even without

05:44:46.320 any proof, you know, just ruined men's lives.

05:44:49.400 Okay.

05:44:49.580 How many great, yeah, how many great men have had, okay, anyways, can you read this one?

05:44:55.000 Shout out from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

05:44:58.260 The primary victims of war are men, but girl in red hair is an ideologue, is that a word?

05:45:03.540 Who is more emotional than rational.

05:45:05.460 You would pass any communications class in American college with A+, retired, hashed, USN,

05:45:10.860 hashtag, roll tide, hashtag, and feminism. 0.98

05:45:13.380 Hashtag, hashtag.

05:45:14.280 If you want to respond to this, they're calling you an ideologue, perhaps you're even a zealot,

05:45:20.560 are you a zealot?

05:45:21.860 Confirm or deny.

05:45:23.160 Zealot, not zealot.

05:45:25.680 One in the chat for zealot, two in the chat for not zealot.

05:45:29.900 Don't even know what that is.

05:45:30.860 Should we Google what zealot is?

05:45:32.540 You can give me a definition based off your brain.

05:45:34.900 Let's do a little Google of the zealot tree.

05:45:37.420 Let's give me a general definition.

05:45:38.600 You have, a zealot is someone who has special zeal without there being any actual, now I'm

05:45:47.380 just bullshitting it.

05:45:48.040 Yeah.

05:45:49.000 I know.

05:45:50.300 A zealot, okay, how would I define a zealot?

05:45:53.620 Somebody who strongly believes something, whether it's true or not.

05:46:03.120 Oh God, I'm using a word I can't precisely define.

05:46:06.660 But why don't we have Nick, Google it.

05:46:09.480 That's crazy.

05:46:10.000 That's kind of crazy, huh?

05:46:11.200 Wait, hold on.

05:46:12.240 Zealot.

05:46:13.220 You got it.

05:46:14.160 A person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or

05:46:19.380 other ideals.

05:46:22.400 I'm going to be generous here.

05:46:24.180 I'm going to be generous here and say that I actually was not too far off the mark.

05:46:29.340 Oh, saying.

05:46:30.440 I think it was.

05:46:31.720 Someone who has a little bit of zest, zeal, whatever, zeal.

05:46:35.800 They've got zeal.

05:46:36.720 I don't know.

05:46:37.740 What is a woman? 1.00

05:46:41.200 God.

05:46:42.100 Starting with you, go ahead.

05:46:43.080 We'll actually do this around the table.

05:46:45.920 Anyone who wants to identify themselves as a woman. 0.90

05:46:49.240 Okay, we'll come back to that.

05:46:50.540 What about?

05:46:51.120 Someone who was born biologically a woman.

05:46:56.040 Oh man.

05:46:57.420 Anyone who wants to identify as a woman. 0.96

05:46:59.840 Is a woman? 0.98

05:47:00.880 Sure.

05:47:01.100 So what is a woman? 1.00

05:47:05.920 So a woman is somebody who identifies as a woman. 0.66

05:47:08.620 Yeah, that's circular logic.

05:47:09.860 Yeah.

05:47:10.380 No.

05:47:10.720 I know.

05:47:11.020 I guess I'd bring it back to you on that too.

05:47:12.920 Man.

05:47:13.840 You're honed in on her.

05:47:14.880 I think that's a good one.

05:47:15.960 No, well you gave this pretty much the same answer.

05:47:18.240 Yeah, yeah.

05:47:18.340 We generally agree.

05:47:20.720 So speak.

05:47:21.940 So what?

05:47:23.180 Speak woman? 0.99

05:47:23.740 Your answer was, a woman is anybody who identifies as a woman?

05:47:27.580 Yeah.

05:47:29.200 I just don't think, like, I'm in a position to dictate how others feel.

05:47:35.140 So that's my kind of mental.

05:47:37.040 Okay.

05:47:37.700 Malik? 0.99

05:47:38.920 A woman is an adult human female. 1.00

05:47:42.000 A woman is a biological female. 1.00

05:47:44.420 A woman is a biological female or someone who completely transitions into a woman. 0.95

05:47:51.700 Not through just identification.

05:47:58.740 Wait.

05:47:59.500 Oh, okay.

05:48:00.120 Like, they don't just go to the...

05:48:01.920 So they could be male.

05:48:02.920 But if so long as they fully transition...

05:48:07.140 Yes.

05:48:08.060 They can be a woman. 1.00

05:48:09.380 Like, I guess...

05:48:11.240 Like surgery and hormones?

05:48:12.200 I wouldn't necessarily say, like, bottom surgery for sure, but, like... 1.00

05:48:15.900 So they can still have a penis? 1.00

05:48:17.420 Yeah. 1.00

05:48:17.900 I mean, I'll say that.

05:48:19.100 But, like, you know, at least...

05:48:20.680 2024.

05:48:21.540 Getting into passability.

05:48:23.520 Okay.

05:48:24.340 What about you?

05:48:26.420 A biological female.

05:48:27.840 But I also agree because there's women, but there's also trans women, which you're asking, 0.91

05:48:34.180 what is a woman? 1.00

05:48:35.640 So my answer would be a biological female. 0.95

05:48:37.900 But there is the other side of it.

05:48:39.660 A woman is an adult human biological female. 0.93

05:48:45.960 Okay.

05:48:46.240 So let me relate this a little bit to dating.

05:48:49.060 So, um...

05:48:50.700 I didn't get a definition.

05:48:52.300 Oh.

05:48:53.780 What's a woman? 1.00

05:48:54.860 Go ahead.

05:48:55.420 A woman... 1.00

05:48:56.720 A woman is an individual whose sex corresponds with that of the only sex which can produce 1.00

05:49:05.660 offspring.

05:49:07.860 So female?

05:49:09.140 Wait, what?

05:49:10.000 Biological female. 0.93

05:49:10.920 Biological female. 0.93

05:49:11.220 So if you can't produce offspring, you're not a female? 0.87

05:49:13.340 No.

05:49:13.360 There's some females... 1.00

05:49:13.880 There's some females who can't produce offspring, right? 1.00

05:49:16.900 Are they not considered women? 0.99

05:49:18.000 So you have to be cautious.

05:49:19.720 So the definition is the sex which is associated with the sex which can reproduce and have

05:49:27.180 offspring.

05:49:28.360 That is a woman. 1.00

05:49:30.020 So men can have offspring? 1.00

05:49:33.100 Huh?

05:49:33.680 What?

05:49:34.660 No.

05:49:35.100 They can't carry offspring.

05:49:36.600 Oh, I missed the carry part.

05:49:38.520 I'm sorry.

05:49:39.340 Carry.

05:49:39.820 What?

05:49:40.580 Malik, Malik, Malik.

05:49:41.700 They can conceive young. 0.84

05:49:44.400 Just do it.

05:49:44.860 We'll do it that way if you want to keep pedantic about it.

05:49:47.120 So let's...

05:49:48.000 The sex which can conceive young and is associated with that which can conceive young.

05:49:52.880 Let's relate this to dating.

05:49:54.520 So...

05:49:56.660 Are trans women women? 1.00

05:50:01.420 No.

05:50:04.360 So they're feminine. 0.97

05:50:05.400 Men, but not women. 0.99

05:50:07.540 Trans women are trans women.

05:50:10.720 But you two were kind of saying, well, if they've gone through the transition, then

05:50:15.880 they can...

05:50:16.720 Because I feel like there's...

05:50:17.820 Especially nowadays, there's a lot of people who will...

05:50:19.900 Like, they will claim trans, but not transition.

05:50:26.740 And there's...

05:50:27.960 Let's say they did, though.

05:50:29.420 Like, full transition?

05:50:30.680 Sure.

05:50:30.860 I would not...

05:50:34.760 Like, I wouldn't sit there and be like, you're a real woman, but I wouldn't sit there and 1.00

05:50:38.060 call you a man.

05:50:39.960 So, related to dating.

05:50:41.640 So...

05:50:42.180 A man...

05:50:45.820 Let's...

05:50:47.820 How do I want to frame this?

05:50:49.880 Is it straight as a heterosexual man to date a trans woman?

05:50:56.900 No.

05:50:57.600 Well, hold on.

05:50:58.220 Starting with you.

05:50:59.000 Yeah.

05:50:59.860 Yes, it's...

05:51:00.700 You're straight.

05:51:03.700 And to date a trans man?

05:51:05.560 I think so.

05:51:06.660 So, me.

05:51:07.640 Heterose...

05:51:07.960 If I'm a...

05:51:08.600 As a heterosexual man, if I were to date a trans woman, is that straight? 0.76

05:51:14.980 Yeah.

05:51:15.540 I think so.

05:51:16.420 Okay.

05:51:16.820 I'll come back to that.

05:51:17.520 We'll go around the table.

05:51:18.280 Go ahead.

05:51:19.380 I wouldn't...

05:51:19.920 I mean, if you consider yourself straight and you're dating a biological man, then...

05:51:23.860 Then no.

05:51:26.600 They're fully female presenting? 1.00

05:51:28.780 You're attracted to the female presence, so I think so. 1.00

05:51:31.880 What if they have a penis? 1.00

05:51:33.440 I might. 1.00

05:51:34.160 I might say that that's not totally straight.

05:51:39.380 Okay.

05:51:43.080 There's different definitions.

05:51:46.080 Okay.

05:51:46.560 So, it's obviously not straight if you're having sex with anything... 0.93

05:51:52.040 If you're having sex in any other circumstance than a heterosexual sex with two opposite genders. 0.99

05:51:57.500 I, using logic of certain people, could present myself as a feminine presenting gay trans man. 0.78

05:52:08.500 What is stopping me from presenting myself and identifying as a feminine presenting gay trans man?

05:52:17.380 Because if I'm a gay trans man, it means I'm still attracted to men, but I'm feminine presenting...

05:52:23.560 Do it.

05:52:24.840 No one's stopping you.

05:52:25.940 Go do it. 1.00

05:52:26.520 And then if I have sex with a man as a feminine presenting gay trans man, that is not gay sex. 1.00

05:52:32.380 That's straight sex. 1.00

05:52:33.160 Why even waste your time? 0.98

05:52:34.760 This is super simple.

05:52:36.400 You just go around the table and ask a single question.

05:52:38.800 Wait, let's just...

05:52:39.280 Just a single question.

05:52:40.220 Let's just continue going around the table.

05:52:42.160 So, wait.

05:52:42.820 I don't...

05:52:43.180 I'm confused by...

05:52:43.960 Trans man would be a biological woman. 0.96

05:52:46.720 Exactly. 1.00

05:52:47.440 So, female who wants to have sex with men. 1.00

05:52:49.600 Men, but wants to be a man and gay. 1.00

05:52:52.200 So, what's your point? 0.78

05:52:53.520 What's your point? 0.99

05:52:54.820 The only straight sex is man-woman having sex. 1.00

05:52:57.880 Trans woman is a trans woman. 1.00

05:52:59.880 Male, female. 0.89

05:53:00.720 Everyone can have their own opinion on it.

05:53:02.740 To me, personally, I don't consider that straight sex.

05:53:05.820 Okay.

05:53:06.840 I think anything outside of heterosexual sex is... 0.94

05:53:11.480 I would consider pansexual, so...

05:53:13.340 Yeah.

05:53:13.480 Where you accept everything or anything as it is.

05:53:17.740 Well, okay.

05:53:18.260 So, perhaps the better question is...

05:53:20.260 A man... 1.00

05:53:22.260 A male who is having sex with a trans woman... 0.99

05:53:28.260 Is there any scenario where that man can claim to be straight? 0.99

05:53:33.960 No.

05:53:34.400 Socially, I think so.

05:53:36.020 I think the disconnect a lot of times is that...

05:53:39.980 If you ask a trans woman or a trans man...

05:53:42.860 Are you a woman or are you a man?

05:53:45.440 Socially, I think they can be.

05:53:47.000 If you're presenting fully...

05:53:48.640 It doesn't matter what's down there.

05:53:50.100 That's, I guess, you and your partner's business.

05:53:51.920 But if you're presenting fully, then...

05:53:53.640 If you're presenting...

05:54:00.420 Well, let me ask...

05:54:01.020 Let me just ask you a simple question. 0.97

05:54:03.640 Can you be a black man? 0.96

05:54:06.540 Can I? 0.52

05:54:07.780 Yeah.

05:54:08.360 No.

05:54:08.540 Can you center up a little?

05:54:09.460 Why not?

05:54:11.200 Because I'm not.

05:54:12.120 What if you present yourself as being one?

05:54:17.420 I mean, if I'm fully committed... 0.96

05:54:21.040 That would just be a black face. 0.91

05:54:22.900 Yeah. 0.76

05:54:23.400 Like, if I literally could become one...

05:54:26.820 Like, all I'm saying is that if...

05:54:28.340 What do you mean, become one?

05:54:30.580 Okay, wait.

05:54:33.680 What I'm saying is that if there is a person or a trans woman just going about their day, 0.97

05:54:41.300 whatever, and you didn't know that they were a trans woman, I would say socially that they 0.72

05:54:46.200 could be considered a woman just for the sake of just being... 0.98

05:54:50.040 Just having it easy.

05:54:51.080 I'm not gonna...

05:54:51.780 So, if I showed up at a party and I pulled a rabbit out of a hat, does that mean that

05:54:57.320 socially I could do magic?

05:54:58.960 Or would I just be presenting an illusion?

05:55:01.960 I think a little bit of both.

05:55:03.200 If you could trick people.

05:55:04.820 I'm not saying that it's not...

05:55:06.540 If you can trick people, right, if you can trick them.

05:55:11.440 So, it wouldn't change the fact of the matter.

05:55:13.560 It would be a trick.

05:55:14.680 No, correct. 0.50

05:55:15.000 So, if you presented yourself as a black man, would that be the fact of the matter or 0.84

05:55:19.260 would it be a trick? 0.95

05:55:20.120 It would, I guess, be a trick.

05:55:22.520 So, I guess maybe I miscommunicated of, like, you cannot physically become... 0.93

05:55:27.480 I can't physically become a black man.

05:55:29.880 Oh, then how come a man can physically become a woman ever? 0.99

05:55:33.000 Or a woman physically become a man? 1.00

05:55:35.160 I think surface level, they can.

05:55:37.200 Like, they can't...

05:55:37.760 Well, what does that mean, though?

05:55:39.200 That just means that they're tricking you, right?

05:55:41.620 Yes.

05:55:42.400 Definitely.

05:55:43.260 Just tricking you.

05:55:43.940 So, what you're saying is that there are some people out there who can trick you into

05:55:48.900 believing a thing which is not true.

05:55:51.920 Yes.

05:55:53.240 Okay.

05:55:53.940 Well, then, if that's the case, then I agree.

05:55:56.960 Okay.

05:55:57.820 What do you think?

05:55:59.100 No.

05:55:59.940 I don't think that it would be considered heterosexual.

05:56:03.780 Okay.

05:56:04.760 What about you?

05:56:05.260 It's a hard question.

05:56:08.040 I mean, if they were fully transitioned, that's... 0.99

05:56:10.240 If they were fully transitioned, that would be a hard question.

05:56:14.620 Fully transitioned.

05:56:15.680 Fully transitioned.

05:56:16.480 Bottom surgery, even.

05:56:19.180 I'm not sure how to answer that.

05:56:21.340 I'd say yes or...

05:56:21.900 I mean, I guess no.

05:56:24.660 They can't...

05:56:25.300 No, they wouldn't be...

05:56:26.080 If they knew the fact that they were, like, fully transitioned and they knew that they 0.85

05:56:29.980 were trans, then no.

05:56:30.680 Okay.

05:56:33.180 Wait, so, you said it would be...

05:56:35.860 How does one not know that?

05:56:38.480 Like, I'm actually confused now.

05:56:40.980 What was that?

05:56:42.060 How would they not know that?

05:56:42.740 How would one not know that?

05:56:43.040 Like, if they didn't communicate that?

05:56:44.480 I don't know.

05:56:44.800 If you're fully transitioned organs and everything and you didn't communicate... 0.98

05:56:48.180 I mean...

05:56:48.860 Well, I mean, there is an example of that, though.

05:56:51.220 There's a clip of a...

05:56:53.240 I wouldn't say well-known trans woman, but I'm not too big in the community, so I'm not

05:56:57.880 too sure.

05:56:58.180 But she actually said she, you know, didn't tell a man for about two months, and he had

05:57:02.260 no idea.

05:57:02.400 Is that a makeup chick? 1.00

05:57:04.060 Is it the makeup chick? 0.97

05:57:05.440 No.

05:57:05.880 It's somebody completely different.

05:57:07.280 But she had bottom surgery, and they were sexual with each other, and she didn't tell 0.91

05:57:12.060 him for about two months.

05:57:13.240 So...

05:57:13.960 That's essay, girl.

05:57:15.280 Yeah.

05:57:15.740 That was essentially the debate on that, too.

05:57:18.400 But, yeah.

05:57:19.060 He had no idea for about two months.

05:57:21.160 She should... 1.00

05:57:21.980 They...

05:57:22.400 Whatever.

05:57:22.760 She should have said something.

05:57:23.440 Wait.

05:57:23.840 So, okay.

05:57:24.160 You said, going back to you, you said that it would be straight.

05:57:28.900 Yeah, I think so. 1.00

05:57:29.880 For a man, a male, to date, have sex with a trans woman. 1.00

05:57:39.820 Is that correct? 1.00

05:57:40.560 Did you agree on that or no?

05:57:42.920 I forgot.

05:57:43.520 I think it depends on the surgery, post-op, after all.

05:57:48.020 Okay.

05:57:48.300 Well, let me start here.

05:57:49.260 So, let's say they still have a peen.

05:57:52.760 That is slightly less straight to me, yeah.

05:57:55.740 It's slightly less straight to me.

05:57:57.900 It's not super straight to me.

05:58:00.760 What about you?

05:58:02.960 I agree.

05:58:04.540 Oh, well, because you said it was just, if you're a male dating a trans woman, that's

05:58:10.800 straight.

05:58:11.480 Yeah, I think so. 0.57

05:58:13.000 But, I mean, a trans woman could still have a peen. 1.00

05:58:15.960 Yeah.

05:58:17.040 So, still straight?

05:58:18.400 I still think it could be straight, yeah.

05:58:20.000 Could be straight.

05:58:20.660 Yeah.

05:58:21.080 Okay.

05:58:21.440 Why is it could?

05:58:22.880 So, in this concept, when we say homosexual, we mean same-sex relationship.

05:58:30.260 You would agree that these people have not changed their sex, correct?

05:58:41.640 Wait, sorry.

05:58:42.940 Reiterate your point.

05:58:44.240 Homosexual means same-sex.

05:58:46.760 Yeah. 0.93

05:58:46.980 Same-sex relationship.

05:58:48.420 You would agree that these people have not changed their sex, correct?

05:58:52.200 Yeah.

05:58:52.680 You can argue they've changed their gender, but you would never argue they changed their

05:58:56.000 sex, would you?

05:58:57.600 Yeah. 0.96

05:58:57.920 Yeah.

05:58:57.960 Yeah, so if that's the case, then they would be in a homosexual relationship. 0.71

05:59:03.580 Straight is a short-form slang for heterosexual.

05:59:06.880 So, how could this ever be a heterosexual relationship if they're the same sex? 0.98

05:59:13.300 I just want to respect people, and if a man is dating someone who is a trans woman, I think

05:59:21.820 if they identify as straight, why would I dictate it otherwise?

05:59:25.800 Like, why does it matter to me?

05:59:26.820 Well, because you can have words which operate only under two modes, really.

05:59:34.800 You can have an empty label.

05:59:36.280 For instance, that would be Brian's name.

05:59:38.640 His name is Brian.

05:59:39.780 But there's many, many, many Brians, right?

05:59:43.060 It's an empty label.

05:59:44.260 It's not particularly the name itself is not pointing at anything.

05:59:47.580 Now, him, himself, as an identifier, can point to him specifically.

05:59:52.620 When you say homosexual, that is a label which has meaning. 0.99

05:59:56.700 It's pointing to something.

05:59:58.320 Same sex. 0.93

05:59:59.800 Heterosexual is pointing to something else, right? 0.96

06:00:02.740 Which is opposite sex. 0.87

06:00:04.580 So, the question then becomes, if you conflate and make a category error out of this and say,

06:00:11.760 people who are the same sex are actually people who are opposite sex, now we have a word concept fallacy.

06:00:18.060 So, I need to understand why it is that out of respect you're going to yield to them that this thing is true, which is categorically false.

06:00:27.340 Well, the reason I do that is because I think it's easier for me to just change my language or change how you don't think it's easier.

06:00:39.660 So, it's easier for you to lie?

06:00:42.440 No, just to respect what they want to be called.

06:00:44.700 If Brian wanted to go by the name Paul, I would call him Paul.

06:00:47.800 Yes, but I already explained to you the distinction in names.

06:00:51.440 Names are empty labels.

06:00:53.780 Words have specific labels.

06:00:55.760 And it's because words are designed to convey information.

06:00:59.120 Here's an example.

06:00:59.960 When I say the word cat to you, does the word cat point to something?

06:01:04.140 Can you tell me what it's pointing at?

06:01:05.600 Words also transform over time.

06:01:08.080 Can you tell me what the word cat is pointing at?

06:01:09.400 Big Sas Energy donated $100.

06:01:12.340 No amount of data, reasoning, or logic will change leftist women's mind. 1.00

06:01:17.780 They appeal to emotion and feelings only. 0.98

06:01:20.560 They are truly the scourge of the earth.

06:01:22.720 They are being rejected en masse, thank God. 0.99

06:01:26.500 Yeah, well, I couldn't agree with the super chat or more that leftist women are the scourge of the earth. 1.00

06:01:31.520 But back to this, when I say the word cat, what am I pointing at? 0.98

06:01:36.620 The animal?

06:01:37.480 You want me to say the animal?

06:01:39.180 Yeah, describe it for me.

06:01:40.460 I don't know how to describe a cat.

06:01:43.940 A feline with little pointy ears most of the time.

06:01:47.160 It's got fur, it's got four legs usually, right?

06:01:49.540 It's got a tail, it's got all that.

06:01:50.800 So I've conveyed all of that information to you with a single word, haven't I?

06:01:55.500 Yeah.

06:01:56.500 Okay, so how come when I say the word homosexual, there's suddenly confusion?

06:02:00.460 There's no confusion.

06:02:01.900 Okay, if there's no confusion, then why is it?

06:02:04.360 Other than if you know what the word means and you know what it's pointing to and somebody says, I'm not that thing, how are they not lying?

06:02:10.240 But that's, it's funny that you think they're lying.

06:02:14.900 What if they, like, how do you know what goes on in, like, their bedroom life?

06:02:20.080 What if they don't, don't even, why is that your issue? 0.82

06:02:22.500 Why aren't you a black woman? 1.00

06:02:23.640 What? 0.99

06:02:24.680 Why aren't you a black woman? 1.00

06:02:27.440 Are you going to do the born this way? 0.99

06:02:30.700 No, I'm asking you a specific question. 0.98

06:02:33.140 Are you a black woman? 0.81

06:02:34.200 No. 0.99

06:02:35.520 If you claimed that you were a black woman, would you be telling the truth or would you be lying? 0.96

06:02:40.240 I would be lying.

06:02:41.960 Okay, well then why wouldn't the same exact thing be true in the case of homo versus heterosexual, knowing that these categories are also indicating the same thing, which is a biological reality, which is associated with those words?

06:02:55.280 I don't know why I would care about this.

06:02:58.640 Like, I rather just, like I said.

06:03:00.680 You don't know why you care about lying?

06:03:01.940 Like, the truth?

06:03:03.260 I don't care about if someone tells me a lie, no.

06:03:06.180 You don't care about truth in general?

06:03:07.040 You don't care if people lie to you?

06:03:09.300 Aren't you getting a master's?

06:03:11.260 Yeah.

06:03:11.800 Hang on, I just want to make sure I'm clear on this.

06:03:13.640 I just want to make sure I'm clear.

06:03:14.580 You don't care if people lie to you?

06:03:16.380 I don't care if, like, someone wants to identify as trans. 1.00

06:03:21.580 Again, if you deem it as a lie.

06:03:23.820 So, you just tried to duck the question.

06:03:27.380 It was cleverly done, but I caught on to it quickly.

06:03:30.580 You don't care if people lie to you?

06:03:33.200 Is that yes or no?

06:03:35.220 The general public, if a random person lies to me, no.

06:03:38.760 I don't care.

06:03:39.500 Why would I care?

06:03:40.160 You don't care.

06:03:41.160 So, if you have a friend who is a friend of yours, do you care if they lie to you?

06:03:45.880 I would care more.

06:03:47.680 But it depends what it is.

06:03:48.640 What about a family member?

06:03:49.680 I would care more, but it depends what it is. 0.72

06:03:51.560 So, if your family member came to you and lied about being black, would you care?

06:03:55.280 It would be a little concerning why they randomly started saying that.

06:04:01.980 Why would that be concerning?

06:04:02.960 Would it be concerning because they're suffering clearly from something which is a delusion?

06:04:09.000 I mean, I'm not going to air that.

06:04:11.800 I think there's a difference between my...

06:04:13.040 What do you mean you're not going to answer that?

06:04:14.360 Why would it be concerning if one of your family members came to you and said that they were a black man if they were a white woman?

06:04:21.320 Why would that be concerning to you?

06:04:22.700 I, again, I don't know why this is such a honed-in conversation.

06:04:27.960 I really just, to be nice, I don't like saying a crazy opinion on this because I think it's...

06:04:34.960 Yeah, I already know what your feelings are in the matter.

06:04:36.740 I ask you a question.

06:04:37.480 Why would it be concerning to you if a family member came to you and misidentified their race?

06:04:44.060 Why would that be of concern?

06:04:45.440 I think race and gender are different.

06:04:48.220 Yeah, I agree that they're different.

06:04:49.900 But I'm going to ask you one more time.

06:04:52.480 Why would it be of concern to you?

06:04:55.420 Because they are not that race. 0.94

06:04:58.640 Right.

06:04:59.200 They are not that thing.

06:05:00.400 So you would think what?

06:05:01.900 Why would them not being that thing be of concern to you?

06:05:05.660 Why would it be a concern to me?

06:05:07.420 It's not because...

06:05:07.960 Why would it, yeah, why would it be of concern to you that somebody came to you and said this thing to you?

06:05:13.080 Why would that be concerning?

06:05:16.040 That's a good question.

06:05:16.980 I don't know why it would be concerning.

06:05:18.300 But then why did you just say you would be concerned by it?

06:05:20.620 I would be concerned because they are identifying as a race that they're not. 0.98

06:05:25.200 Right.

06:05:25.700 So they're lying to you.

06:05:26.960 That's what the concern is.

06:05:28.440 You know that they're lying to you.

06:05:29.540 So that would spring delusion inside of your brain.

06:05:32.280 You would say they were delusional.

06:05:33.740 There's no other reason you could possibly give for why that would be concerning.

06:05:37.120 And if you can, I'd love to hear it.

06:05:38.920 But delusion and a lie is a little bit different, don't you think?

06:05:41.720 A liar, a good liar is whatever.

06:05:44.020 But someone who's actually delusional and is having a mental crisis is very different. 0.97

06:05:49.000 What do you consider it to be delusional if one of your family members who was a white woman came over to you and said that they were a black man?

06:05:54.720 Yeah.

06:05:55.360 I think it's delusional at that point.

06:05:57.500 Yes, exactly.

06:05:58.380 It's delusional.

06:05:59.140 I don't think...

06:05:59.840 Because they're lying to you and telling you that there's something that they are not.

06:06:02.480 Why would the same thing not apply to sex? 0.73

06:06:04.600 I'm so confused.

06:06:05.580 It's still delusional.

06:06:07.040 Delusion is believing your own lie.

06:06:08.260 Yes.

06:06:09.000 So it's still a lie.

06:06:09.720 Here, let me ask you a question.

06:06:10.720 Let me ask you a question.

06:06:11.900 Is it...

06:06:13.480 Okay.

06:06:13.840 Let's say me. 0.88

06:06:16.680 I would not want to date a trans woman. 1.00

06:06:19.660 Is that transphobic? 0.68

06:06:21.220 I think that's your preference.

06:06:23.600 Okay.

06:06:24.520 So I have no quarrels with that.

06:06:26.880 That's fine.

06:06:28.620 Okay.

06:06:29.580 Where is your line, though?

06:06:31.340 Because you're like, hey, you just want to respect them.

06:06:34.380 I personally believe you can respect and not accept delusion.

06:06:37.520 So would you accept any person who identifies as, no matter what severity of their transition they are?

06:06:46.960 Yeah.

06:06:47.800 So if a guy has a beard, if Brian threw out a wig, you would accept him if he wanted to be identified as a woman?

06:06:54.740 Why not?

06:06:56.300 Why not?

06:06:56.620 I don't see a problem with it.

06:06:58.520 What makes it more acceptable for someone to change their gender? 0.92

06:07:03.940 I'm not going to say sex.

06:07:05.740 Rather than their race.

06:07:07.000 If we want to do the gender argument, people argue gender is like a construct, right?

06:07:14.180 Yeah, but race is a construct from your worldview, too.

06:07:18.160 Race is a construct? 0.78

06:07:19.760 Yeah. 1.00

06:07:19.960 That's it, bitch! 1.00

06:07:21.240 How? 1.00

06:07:22.540 What do you mean, how?

06:07:23.640 You don't believe that race is a construct?

06:07:25.100 You think that it's a biological truth?

06:07:27.940 Well, like your skin tone is a construct? 0.65

06:07:31.260 No, I didn't say skin tone.

06:07:32.720 I said race is a construct. 0.97

06:07:35.020 Race is not color.

06:07:37.320 I'm just asking what makes it more acceptable.

06:07:39.580 From your worldview, and there's nothing here that's DOS, Brian, or Promise, from your worldview,

06:07:44.780 race is a construct.

06:07:49.220 Not necessarily, no, because it's dependent on locationally a lot.

06:07:54.820 There's a lot of background.

06:07:56.020 Well, those are called clines.

06:07:57.220 From your worldview, that's called a cline.

06:07:59.320 So that would be a cline cluster.

06:08:00.900 It has nothing to do with race.

06:08:02.220 You're just talking about demographic areas.

06:08:04.300 So, yes, I'll concede to the cline clusters.

06:08:07.220 But race, from the worldview of you, the leftist, does not exist.

06:08:14.180 It is not a biological reality.

06:08:17.060 So if that is true, and it's not a biological reality, it's just a social construction, just

06:08:22.940 like gender is, you would have to explain why in the world it is that you would be willing 1.00

06:08:28.740 to concede to one of these delusions, but not the other.

06:08:31.260 I think it's because with a race, there's a lot more behind it than just wanting to identify

06:08:41.360 as a different gender.

06:08:42.120 Why?

06:08:42.640 It's just a social construct, right?

06:08:45.400 No, because there's things that go along with race in general.

06:08:54.400 Like, there is, like racism, the idea of racism.

06:08:57.840 You aren't going to...

06:08:59.100 Yeah, but like the idea of transphobia, it would be the same exact thing, right?

06:09:02.480 You can have a social construction, and then you can have a bias against the social construction.

06:09:06.020 It doesn't make it any less of a social construction.

06:09:08.180 I have a question.

06:09:10.100 Wait, wait, no, no, hold on, hold on.

06:09:11.360 Just for the sake of time here, just, again, I'm trying to get a little bit...

06:09:16.580 Oh, okay.

06:09:17.420 Big Sas Energy donated $100.

06:09:20.460 At what point is respecting the person actually calling out their delusion or lie? 0.94

06:09:25.460 Is it really respect to play along with their mental illness?

06:09:28.880 Is that really compassion? 0.95

06:09:30.240 Or is it just lazy apathy?

06:09:35.260 Okay.

06:09:37.140 Thank you, Big Sas Energy.

06:09:38.680 Okay, just really quick.

06:09:40.940 So, a male S-ing the D of a trans woman, is that heterosexual? 0.90

06:09:51.440 That's not...

06:09:53.060 It's not heterosexual. 1.00

06:09:54.560 If you suck lady dick, are you gay? 1.00

06:09:57.340 It's simple. 1.00

06:09:58.080 If you suck lady dick, are you gay? 1.00

06:10:00.240 I want that. 1.00

06:10:00.800 This seems like such an easy question.

06:10:03.060 I said, no, it's not heterosexual.

06:10:06.040 No, because earlier I asked if it's straight as a heterosexual man to date a trans woman,

06:10:12.080 and you said...

06:10:12.640 Yes.

06:10:13.140 It is straight.

06:10:13.820 So, dating is straight, but...

06:10:15.560 Well, some people don't even have sex before marriage, right?

06:10:18.360 That's a big one.

06:10:19.400 Okay, fine. 0.97

06:10:20.140 Let's talk just sex. 0.99

06:10:21.560 Let's talk just sex. 0.98

06:10:23.940 Okay? 0.93

06:10:24.780 Okay.

06:10:25.040 Wait, before you start...

06:10:26.340 It's a little late.

06:10:27.740 I gotta get going.

06:10:28.480 Before you leave, let me see if I can actually, very quickly, I know we had some pre-show

06:10:33.080 notes that...

06:10:34.260 Wait.

06:10:35.840 Hold on.

06:10:38.420 Drax, right?

06:10:39.140 Yeah.

06:10:39.460 Oh, we hit it.

06:10:40.480 Yeah.

06:10:40.600 I think we hit all your notes, so I know it's late.

06:10:42.620 If you do, gotta excuse yourself.

06:10:44.100 I do.

06:10:44.840 Totally fine.

06:10:45.440 Well, thank you so much for coming.

06:10:46.300 Thank you for saying it.

06:10:46.960 Thanks for having me.

06:10:47.740 It was really nice to meet you guys.

06:10:49.980 I'm gonna have you take a seat.

06:10:51.000 Nice to meet you.

06:10:51.520 Have a great night.

06:10:52.780 Bye.

06:10:53.120 It was nice to meet you.

06:10:54.040 We are gonna try to wrap up your...

06:10:55.120 You weren't as scary as I thought you were gonna be.

06:10:57.100 Oh, there it is.

06:10:57.440 Oh, he's a little teddy bear.

06:10:58.580 What's that?

06:10:59.120 I said you weren't as scary as I thought you were going to be.

06:11:02.280 Oh, wait.

06:11:02.620 Before you leave...

06:11:03.140 Where the hell does this idea come from?

06:11:06.200 You use a lot of big words.

06:11:07.500 Wait, as a plug, whatever clips, that's where it comes from.

06:11:12.340 You just use a lot of big words.

06:11:14.080 You're very well articulated with your words, and I'm not.

06:11:16.540 Really quick.

06:11:16.860 So you're kind of intimidating.

06:11:17.640 Before you leave, last little thing.

06:11:22.540 Does body count matter?

06:11:24.420 I don't care, personally.

06:11:26.920 No.

06:11:28.340 I don't really care about my partner.

06:11:30.120 Wait, wait, hang on.

06:11:31.120 You're gonna leave on the answer of no?

06:11:33.340 Can you come back?

06:11:35.380 Really?

06:11:36.240 Like, you're just gonna drop that, and then you're gonna leave?

06:11:38.500 No way.

06:11:38.860 You gotta stay at least for another 15 minutes.

06:11:40.640 About...

06:11:41.120 Bro, I have like a three-hour drive.

06:11:43.240 Wait, going around the table?

06:11:45.060 Yes, body count matters.

06:11:46.680 To a certain extent, yeah.

06:11:47.920 Yes, absolutely.

06:11:49.040 No.

06:11:49.600 It doesn't matter.

06:11:50.540 No.

06:11:50.940 Yes.

06:11:51.620 Okay, so going around the table, what's your body count?

06:11:54.360 Starting with me, guys.

06:11:55.800 Eight.

06:11:56.760 Going over here. 1.00

06:11:57.760 Oh, fuck. 1.00

06:11:58.560 Seven. 1.00

06:11:59.800 Five.

06:12:03.600 Seven.

06:12:04.960 Stop the cap. 0.94

06:12:06.300 Okay, I was...

06:12:06.980 On all of you?

06:12:08.140 One.

06:12:08.980 Ten.

06:12:09.840 I'd prefer not to answer.

06:12:11.940 Yeah, I'm not gonna...

06:12:13.080 Wait, I thought you said it doesn't matter.

06:12:15.020 I know.

06:12:16.260 Range?

06:12:16.800 Yeah.

06:12:17.460 Range?

06:12:18.080 Range, um...

06:12:20.220 Above 30.

06:12:26.280 Range?

06:12:26.680 Range?

06:12:26.720 Less than...

06:12:33.100 That's all I'm giving you.

06:12:34.020 Above...

06:12:34.460 Is it above 40?

06:12:35.700 That's all I'm giving you.

06:12:37.020 Because above 30 could mean a million.

06:12:39.320 No, no.

06:12:40.980 It's not that much.

06:12:42.620 Okay, above 30?

06:12:43.860 Okay, all right.

06:12:44.920 All right, that was it.

06:12:45.920 Below 40?

06:12:46.840 Below 40?

06:12:47.240 All right, thank you.

06:12:47.780 Race greater donated $100.

06:12:50.700 Race is a construct in reality. 0.53

06:12:52.680 There was no concept of race prior to the advent of the American racial construct.

06:12:59.080 People were separated by cultural, tribal, and linguistic boundaries.

06:13:05.200 Thank you, race greater.

06:13:06.820 This was an example which was used to point out absurdity, not an example which was used

06:13:12.500 to make a claim either way.

06:13:14.520 Got it.

06:13:15.360 All right, well, thank you for coming.

06:13:16.600 Yeah.

06:13:17.600 Spencer, can you take...

06:13:19.180 To answer this guy's question first, body count does not matter to reasons.

06:13:23.700 Maybe for women it does because you get emotionally attached to somebody, right? 0.99

06:13:27.540 But in general, I don't think it matters because that doesn't play a part as to, like, who that

06:13:34.220 person is or how they are in a relationship.

06:13:36.300 Wait, hold on.

06:13:38.180 Now we got to tackle that.

06:13:39.600 I told you.

06:13:40.520 I told you.

06:13:41.120 You can't drop that and just walk.

06:13:42.780 It's no good.

06:13:43.820 I'm out.

06:13:44.320 Wait, wait, wait.

06:13:45.500 So, okay, you're saying that has no bearing on how they're going to behave in a relationship

06:13:52.420 or...

06:13:55.380 I don't...

06:13:56.160 What do you mean behave in a relationship?

06:13:58.020 Well, your point was that...

06:14:00.540 I meant that if somebody has a high body count, that doesn't mean that they're, like, it's

06:14:05.440 going to make them be a certain type of person in a relationship.

06:14:10.820 Not sure about that one.

06:14:12.440 Yeah.

06:14:12.840 That's okay.

06:14:14.060 So, let me ask you a question.

06:14:15.740 If you were...

06:14:17.080 You're currently, wait, any dating?

06:14:22.460 Like, boyfriends?

06:14:23.560 Okay.

06:14:23.840 Let me...

06:14:25.080 You meet a guy and you find out that he cheated on his past three girlfriends.

06:14:29.920 Mm-hmm.

06:14:30.700 It's in his past, right?

06:14:31.680 Uh, does his past behavior make you take pause on potentially partnering with him?

06:14:40.600 It would make me question it, yeah.

06:14:42.460 But wouldn't that be the cheating, not the amount of body count?

06:14:45.340 Correct.

06:14:45.780 That would be, like, the action of cheating, not the amount of body count.

06:14:47.980 Right, and there's also the action of being promiscuous.

06:14:50.540 I think that somebody that's genuinely promiscuous might be more prone to said actions, but, again, it just really depends.

06:15:00.400 I don't think that that has anything to do with the amount of people that you sleep with, because there's also a notion that, like, okay, what if I have 20 boyfriends and I sleep with those 20 boyfriends and my body count is 20?

06:15:14.020 They were still my partner. 0.99

06:15:15.140 That's fucking disgusting. 0.99

06:15:15.880 Yeah, I get it, I understand, but let's ask if it's a slightly different way. 0.99

06:15:22.540 Let me just ask you if there was a woman, there's two women that you know, they're both friends of yours. 1.00

06:15:27.660 One has been with the same man for 19 years, and one has been with 19 men every year.

06:15:33.820 Which one would you think would be more likely, if they, you know, got together with a new partner, to be loyal to them?

06:15:42.080 Um, to be loyal, wait, what do you mean?

06:15:46.300 If somebody were to sleep with 19 men, and then one woman sleeping. 0.58

06:15:51.300 No, no, let me, let me rephrase, let me rephrase it again.

06:15:54.180 Thank you.

06:15:54.520 A woman has been with the same partner for 19 years, and now she's no longer with that partner.

06:16:00.980 Another woman that you know has been with 19 partners every year. 0.74

06:16:04.940 Okay, same amount of time over 19 years.

06:16:09.120 They both end up with new partners.

06:16:11.080 Which one would you, if you had to gamble, if you had to roll all of your dice on one, which one would you say would be more likely to be more promiscuous and step out of the relationship?

06:16:20.420 Um, well, I know the answer that you want me to give, but if somebody who is sleeping with multiple people, and they have not been in a relationship, and then they finally decide to be in a relationship, I would say that that's for a reason.

06:16:36.880 Now, if you have one person that has slept with one man several times, and they get into another relationship, they might be equally loyal to that person, or they might also want to have...

06:16:52.400 Which one would you roll the dice on, is the question?

06:16:56.360 Uh, well, I mean, I would roll the dice with the person that was in the longest relationship, because they become accustomed to being in a long relationship.

06:17:03.940 Right.

06:17:04.240 So then, this would, this would conclude for this, then, that body count must at least matter to some degree to you.

06:17:14.740 It does.

06:17:14.960 Because, yeah, and the alternative, if, well, but you just said it didn't, I thought.

06:17:20.320 I don't think, it matters, yes, but it doesn't matter in choosing a partner.

06:17:24.420 Like, if I sleep with an X amount of people...

06:17:28.420 It wouldn't matter in choosing a partner if you're saying that the traits of the body count itself, if you had to gamble,

06:17:32.480 would indicate more loyalty, that seems like that would be something that would be very keyed in if you were choosing a partner.

06:17:38.880 If I were to look at a man and know that that man has slept with several women, I wouldn't solely base it off of the body count.

06:17:46.580 Yeah, but how come when the gamble was on women that you indicated that you thought that the loyalty would be higher for the woman with a lesser body count?

06:17:54.540 That's the question.

06:17:55.380 My answer would be the same if you put that scenario as a man.

06:17:58.800 Sure.

06:17:59.060 But even then, the question still stands, which is, why is it, if this thing doesn't matter, do you indicate loyalty with the thing?

06:18:10.340 Well, it's like the comment that I said, people are usually looking for something greener, like the greener grass on the other side of the fence or whatever.

06:18:18.520 Well, that would be a loyalty problem.

06:18:19.620 Once you've been with more people, you tend to have more people that you compare your partners with, right?

06:18:27.520 But as an individual, that can always vary.

06:18:30.760 I'm not saying individually it can't vary.

06:18:32.940 I'm not saying you're an evil person because you had a high body count.

06:18:35.620 I'm not saying anything of the sort.

06:18:37.080 I'm definitely saying that it's not a monolith.

06:18:39.740 I'm just saying that you yourself associate loyalty with a low body count.

06:18:44.700 Okay.

06:18:44.940 I still wouldn't use body count and base it to choose a partner.

06:18:50.820 But if that's true, that you associate loyalty with a lower body count, then don't you think it is pertinent for partner choosing if they're looking for the quality of loyalty?

06:19:00.280 I mean, it's possible, or I can also associate it to somebody wanting to possibly be more prone to wanting to get other partners if they've only been with one person.

06:19:11.460 You could, but if you had to gamble, you wouldn't.

06:19:16.000 But, you know, in life, it's sometimes a bad idea to gamble, and you want to, like, take all the facts into consideration.

06:19:21.860 But every relationship's a gamble, isn't it?

06:19:23.540 It could be, as long as both parties are actively choosing to be together, regardless of body count.

06:19:28.860 If you have to roll the hard six, you're going to roll it on the person with the least body count, which tells me that it matters, and every relationship is a gamble.

06:19:38.680 You conceded that that's also true.

06:19:40.980 So it sounds like if loyalty is the issue here, and it is a big issue in relationships, that you yourself would associate body count with loyalty.

06:19:49.100 But it wouldn't be solely, I wouldn't solely base my choosing of that person based off of body count.

06:19:55.120 I'm just saying it matters.

06:19:57.880 To some degree, yeah.

06:19:59.860 My advice to men is don't date women with high body counts. 1.00

06:20:06.920 That's okay.

06:20:08.160 I don't really think body count has to do with loyalty, though.

06:20:11.600 You can have been promiscuous in the past and still know how to be loyal, but you can also have, like, a really low body count and have not been loyal and able to commit in any of those.

06:20:21.720 Yeah.

06:20:22.040 But, I mean, the more that you have, the more partners that you have, the more you have to, like, compare other people with.

06:20:29.360 And I think that's one of the really, like, one of the biggest problems that there is now is that you can pick up your phone and swipe right or swipe left and have all of these different options.

06:20:38.500 And so, you've been with 20, 30 people, but you're with your partner and you're constantly nitpicking as to, oh, well, he doesn't do what, I don't know, this other guy that I dated with.

06:20:50.220 Or, and he doesn't look like this other guy that I dated looks like.

06:20:53.360 So, there's always going to be, like, yeah, there's always going to be some type of comparison.

06:20:58.460 So, they're not going to be happy.

06:21:01.060 With this, I'm just curious.

06:21:03.320 This was a good exchange.

06:21:04.860 I enjoyed it.

06:21:05.460 Would you say that promiscuity itself is a character flaw?

06:21:11.580 I wouldn't say that.

06:21:13.800 Well, it's weird.

06:21:15.420 I would say for women, yes.

06:21:18.400 One, I'm just taking myself into consideration here.

06:21:22.540 If I were to sleep with multiple people, I would be attached to those people.

06:21:28.980 I would, like, emotionally be.

06:21:30.340 I'm a very emotional person.

06:21:31.380 So, I feel like I would be emotionally attached to those people.

06:21:35.000 Sex means different to me than what I believe sex means to a man.

06:21:42.560 No, okay.

06:21:43.540 So, I understand that you would drive the distinction between the sexes.

06:21:46.660 So, then, would you consider it a character flaw in women? 0.97

06:21:50.160 A character flaw in what?

06:21:51.420 I'm sorry.

06:21:51.740 Can you elaborate?

06:21:53.160 Promiscuity.

06:21:53.740 Would you consider promiscuity to be a character flaw in a woman? 0.99

06:21:56.760 In a character flaw in what way?

06:22:00.380 That it would, in some way, enroach upon the character of the woman that they were engaging in promiscuity.

06:22:07.680 Do you think, do you consider that to be a flaw of character, or do you consider it to not be a flaw of character?

06:22:13.740 Um, I think it speaks on their character.

06:22:19.500 That's one of the reasons why I'm not really...

06:22:21.820 Do you think it speaks poorly on their character?

06:22:25.920 No.

06:22:27.080 No.

06:22:27.780 So, then, promiscuity to you would not be a character flaw.

06:22:31.760 So, I think, so, again, for me, I don't engage in the hookup culture, but I'm also not going to sit here and tell the woman in front of me that does engage in hookup culture that she's flawed or, like, shame her for it.

06:22:49.000 I think all of that is personal choice.

06:22:51.080 Um, a lot of it has to do with, like, religious standpoints, political standpoints, or maybe it's, like, maybe you believe that, I don't know, there's energy in having sex, like, all those people that are, like, super, um, like, spiritual or whatever.

06:23:06.200 So, it, it just really depends on the person.

06:23:09.020 I'm not going to shame somebody for it, but I'm not going to engage...

06:23:12.380 Bring back shaming.

06:23:14.440 I'm not going to engage it in myself.

06:23:15.900 We're going to bring back shaming.

06:23:17.480 We're going to start shaming people.

06:23:18.900 Oh, you slept with five guys this week? 0.94

06:23:21.520 Shame.

06:23:23.280 Why are you sleeping with five guys, Brian? 0.53

06:23:26.040 I'm talking about, like, a woman.

06:23:27.740 In one week?

06:23:29.340 That's crazy.

06:23:32.660 Nice.

06:23:34.060 Okay, body count bad.

06:23:35.660 Women. 0.81

06:23:38.240 Women good. 0.91

06:23:39.120 Don't, don't date women with a high body count. 1.00

06:23:41.620 Women don't date women with a high... 1.00

06:23:43.460 Don't date anybody with a high body count.

06:23:45.640 How about that one?

06:23:46.380 Okay.

06:23:46.640 Okay.

06:23:47.380 Here.

06:23:47.980 I'm going to try to...

06:23:48.720 I know if you got a piece out, I know you got to.

06:23:50.940 I do.

06:23:51.280 Thank you.

06:23:51.880 Nice meeting you guys.

06:23:52.160 We had some notes on you.

06:23:54.400 Bella, you said your last relationship is a good insight to young girls trying to find

06:23:57.740 the modern bad boy.

06:23:59.240 Yeah.

06:24:02.140 That's pretty interesting.

06:24:06.020 Yeah, if you got a dip, I guess you got a dip.

06:24:09.440 Got a dip.

06:24:10.000 I'm going to try to wrap in a shorter period, but...

06:24:14.400 Bye.

06:24:15.420 Nice meeting you.

06:24:16.080 Nice meeting you, too.

06:24:17.220 Poor Andrew.

06:24:19.500 She didn't give you as many compliments.

06:24:22.440 Go ahead.

06:24:22.960 Tell your story.

06:24:24.200 Yeah, it was just...

06:24:25.180 Do you think calling me scary is a compliment?

06:24:28.040 No, she was... 0.93

06:24:29.580 Well, she was not just as scary.

06:24:30.920 No, no, no, no, no, no.

06:24:31.000 Hold on.

06:24:31.340 I'm really trying to wrap this show up soon, so go ahead.

06:24:33.660 Yeah.

06:24:34.760 It's kind of...

06:24:35.260 I'll keep it short and sweet.

06:24:36.060 So, basically, it was just young, high school sweetheart love.

06:24:39.420 I was about 16.

06:24:40.900 He was actually...

06:24:41.540 We were the same age at the time, but he had just turned 17, and he actually ended up doing

06:24:48.380 some illegal stuff, getting caught up, and I decided I was going to be, you know, Captain

06:24:53.480 Save-A-Ho and do a whole bunch of stuff to try to get him out of trouble, which was really

06:24:57.860 bad because I'm 16, don't know what I'm doing when it comes to the law, and it kind of just

06:25:03.180 turned into a downward spiral of four and a half years of just back and forth, mental

06:25:09.700 drain, emotional drain, and there was a lot of infidelity that wasn't tied into it, and

06:25:16.140 there was a lot of, like, back and forth, and it just was what everybody had made seem

06:25:22.060 so good on, like, Instagram, TikTok, whatever, like, oh, get you a thug because, you know,

06:25:28.580 they'll protect you, blah, blah, blah, blah, but they don't really talk about, like, the

06:25:34.580 downside of what that does to, you know, a partner if they're not raised correctly or

06:25:42.180 if they're not considerate or things along those lines, and it just, it really took a

06:25:47.580 toll on me as a young woman, and it kind of changed my outlook.

06:25:50.840 Like, that's why younger, when I was younger, I don't consider myself traditional at all.

06:25:54.600 I actually was quite promiscuous.

06:25:57.060 I liked to party a lot.

06:25:58.520 I did a lot of stuff that I definitely shouldn't have done, especially at such a young age,

06:26:02.360 and now that I'm older, I look back, and I change a lot of my views.

06:26:05.580 That's why, like, I think body count does matter because, you know, your past will come back

06:26:10.600 to haunt you, and I've had that conversation with my boyfriend before, you know, like, hey,

06:26:14.200 you know, if I had a different body count, would you look at me differently?

06:26:17.500 I mean, we've been honest and said yes, of course, and it just, there's a lot of things

06:26:22.920 that I look back and I regret, especially in regards to that relationship.

06:26:27.560 Do you regret, like, things you did?

06:26:29.840 Yeah, I don't regret him or meeting him because I feel like it was definitely a good lesson.

06:26:34.160 Was he involved in crime?

06:26:35.200 Yeah.

06:26:35.440 You said he was a thug, your words?

06:26:38.160 Yeah, so he...

06:26:39.220 Stealing, what was he doing?

06:26:40.660 Yeah, before me, he was dealing, and then when he was with me, he was stealing, doing

06:26:45.100 house invasions.

06:26:48.280 If you want to get really, yeah, I'm really specific.

06:26:50.400 He was doing home invasions?

06:26:51.800 Yeah. 0.98

06:26:53.200 He was a thug.

06:26:53.960 Yeah, so he was doing that, and it did get to a point where it just came to a head, and

06:26:58.680 he got caught up, and he did go away for eight months, yeah, eight months.

06:27:07.020 You said he'd put you in bad situations?

06:27:09.700 Yeah, so he, when it all happened, I was actually in summer school before my senior year of high

06:27:15.560 school, and he was supposed to come pick me up from summer school, and I ended up having

06:27:20.960 to get a ride because he had lied and said he was doing something else.

06:27:24.480 Yes, and when I had finally gotten home, he actually called me to basically write his

06:27:32.000 report to the police to try to con them out of knowing it was him, and it was a whole big

06:27:38.720 thing, and I eventually got dragged into it, obviously, because I filed a false police

06:27:44.240 report, which is against law, so there was a whole lot that went into it, but I learned

06:27:50.160 my lesson very quickly in about 48 hours after talking to detectives, and they're like,

06:27:55.160 hey, this isn't really a good idea since we know where you were and everything that

06:27:58.300 was going on, so it was just all, it was a whole, at 16, it definitely was a very big

06:28:03.800 eye-opening experience of what type of life I was going into, and it just wasn't, it wasn't

06:28:12.720 portrayed to me the same way that it was portrayed to me prior, like it wasn't happening

06:28:16.580 in the same way that it was portrayed to me, if that makes sense.

06:28:18.960 Advice to the women, don't date men who are involved in criminal activity. 0.75

06:28:25.140 That's my recommendation.

06:28:26.740 Especially young girls.

06:28:27.880 Yeah, just like kind of seems like it's self-evident, but.

06:28:33.060 No heroin addicts, no criminals, right?

06:28:35.400 Yeah, that, you know, just given like the real, you know, nuanced takes here on dating.

06:28:43.140 Uh, bringing it over to Michaela, you said something about the not knowing thing.

06:28:48.240 Oh, God.

06:28:49.320 Um, not to disparage this person that I dated, but basically I was dating this guy for.

06:28:55.080 Almost done, almost done, almost done.

06:28:56.300 Uh, basically for like six months, and we have had, oh, we've had sex before, whatever,

06:29:03.460 and like one week goes by after, and basically, I don't know how to say this PG, but finishes

06:29:12.100 within me, and didn't tell me until one week later.

06:29:16.140 So I guess when.

06:29:17.520 And you were, you were on birth control, correct?

06:29:19.440 Correct.

06:29:19.700 You told him you were on birth control, and.

06:29:21.600 Yes, and then his excuse, like, if this is the first time I ever saw this man like sob,

06:29:26.460 and he was like, I didn't know, like my previous girlfriend said that she was on the IUD,

06:29:31.720 so when you said you were on the pill, I thought it was fine.

06:29:34.120 And I guess my, in the pre-show notes, it was a joke of the question, like malicious

06:29:38.100 act or whatever.

06:29:39.660 But yeah, I guess I just brought it up because it was just baffling that, again, if he was 0.99

06:29:45.020 a complete asshole, and was like, yeah, I did that, whatever, but he was very remorseful 0.98

06:29:49.000 for it, it seemed, but it seemed like he just did not know this info, so. 1.00

06:29:55.140 I mean, yeah, my, I mean, my point of view on this is that both parties should be checking

06:30:00.860 in on this, like, so as a guy, if you're inclined to do that, you know, you should, assuming,

06:30:08.800 you know, you're, in your situation, you said you were on birth control, so there's a mitigated

06:30:13.940 risk of, or very small risk of pregnancy, but I do think on the guy's end, it's quite

06:30:22.060 polite to perhaps ask, but also, I think, as the woman, you should, if you don't want 0.99

06:30:28.520 the guy to come inside you, you should probably overtly state, if you've communicated to him

06:30:34.280 that you're on birth control, I do think you should also, as the woman, also perhaps make 0.99

06:30:38.900 a statement of, hey, I'm, but don't, I don't want you to come inside me, that might, I think,

06:30:44.080 both the men, the men and the women should both make a communication on that front.

06:30:48.400 So, the women that you have dated, have you, do you just automatically assume that if they're

06:30:54.040 on birth control that you can?

06:30:55.200 Um, I mean, I typically, I, I mean, I'd have, I can't, I'm trying to remember here.

06:31:06.160 Like, is it, like, okay, yes, there's always a risk of pregnancy with unprotected sex, and

06:31:10.580 if you're on birth control, like, the, um, effectiveness, it varies by method, but is it,

06:31:16.220 I would typically, like, ask, I think I would ask, yeah.

06:31:21.680 That's what I wanted to know, because, I would ask, I would check.

06:31:25.240 Wait, no?

06:31:26.160 I just don't think a man should be coming inside any woman unless they're trying to get them 1.00

06:31:29.880 pregnant.

06:31:30.360 I agree, yeah.

06:31:31.360 I mean, if she's on, hey, hey, Spencer, what's up?

06:31:36.700 I mean, not that that's, like, normal.

06:31:37.940 Look, if she's on birth control. 1.00

06:31:40.160 Is that the automatic pass for, like, yep, you don't have to tell me, you don't even have

06:31:43.460 to tell me the next day.

06:31:44.100 No, I mean, I, some, some women can be on birth control and still don't want you to blast. 1.00

06:31:47.980 So, I would, yeah, I would, like, I would ask, but sometimes they'll be, like, go for

06:31:54.700 it.

06:31:55.420 Yeah, I feel like that's why I'd be on birth control, like, so that that can happen.

06:32:00.080 Some people are on that, um, for health condition.

06:32:03.200 I think, like Madison said, just men should never assume that a woman's okay with him finishing

06:32:08.400 inside unless that's communicated.

06:32:10.060 And if it's not communicated, it's generally safe on the man's behalf just to not do it.

06:32:14.380 Look, yeah, I think the guy should probably do a check-in, but I also think, as the woman, 0.69

06:32:21.560 if you're having, like, because I'm assuming there's a pre-conversation of we're not wearing

06:32:26.760 protection, too.

06:32:28.440 So, I do think that, I do think women should, if you don't want the guy to come inside you, 0.91

06:32:35.580 it doesn't hurt you to explicitly state that.

06:32:39.580 I agree.

06:32:41.100 I think it's on both parties to communicate, but if it's not communicated prior, men should

06:32:46.260 not just assume that it's okay to finish inside.

06:32:48.500 Sure, I agree.

06:32:49.020 I think men ought to err on the side of caution and just should ask.

06:32:54.380 Or even not in the moment, just, like, the morning after.

06:32:57.480 Like, if you don't want to ruin the moment, like, have a morning after.

06:32:59.280 I don't think it would ruin, I don't think it would ruin the moment.

06:33:01.480 I'm just saying, like, that is an excuse I've heard before, of, like, oh, that's.

06:33:05.200 I mean, you could probably even, like, try to weave it into dirty talk or something.

06:33:11.780 No, don't do it.

06:33:12.860 I'm gonna blast.

06:33:14.300 Do you want me?

06:33:15.060 Like, you could probably, you could probably ask the question in a kind of organic, sexy way.

06:33:23.260 A surgery, yeah.

06:33:24.540 Or I could do it, or I could filter it in.

06:33:27.160 Like, hey, don't do this.

06:33:28.400 Well, that probably wouldn't be so sexy, but you should still do it.

06:33:33.020 Jordan Royale donated $100.

06:33:36.060 Girls lie about being on birth control. 1.00

06:33:38.880 It's very easy to just pull out and put it in her mouth. 0.94

06:33:42.700 She will not fight you on it.

06:33:44.520 Trust me, boys.

06:33:45.500 Okay, buddy.

06:33:46.880 Okay.

06:33:47.560 That's really crazy.

06:33:49.220 Andrew's losing it.

06:33:50.040 I feel like Jordan.

06:33:50.340 Andrew's losing it.

06:33:52.400 Same topic.

06:33:53.500 Is it all right if I also ask?

06:33:54.660 A lot of people see asking for consent as a turnoff, whether it's finishing inside, making out, whatever.

06:34:04.080 I don't know what the woman takes on that. 1.00

06:34:05.740 Some of the girls will be like, just do it. 1.00

06:34:07.920 Yeah, that's, I mean, it's also like...

06:34:09.920 It falls under the same category of...

06:34:11.800 Yeah.

06:34:12.240 Well, for example, like with a first kiss, right?

06:34:14.500 Yeah.

06:34:14.800 You'll ask girls question, or you'll ask on the show, for example, you'll ask, well, would

06:34:19.880 you prefer a guy to just go for the first kiss, or would you prefer him to, like, ask for permission?

06:34:25.840 Most women are, like a lot, a lot of women have said, no, he should just go for it.

06:34:29.680 So that's a good point you bring up.

06:34:32.700 Yeah, and I think...

06:34:34.060 There's obviously extents to...

06:34:35.500 Yeah, there's extents to body language, there's how well you knew the person, but I think generally,

06:34:40.160 unless you do it in such a nerdy, awkward way, asking for consent is never going to be

06:34:43.980 a turnoff.

06:34:45.840 If we were, like, hanging out, you're like, can I make out with you right now?

06:34:48.480 That's what if you do it already, but if you do it already, anyway...

06:34:51.240 Actually, that's pretty based.

06:34:51.980 That was not nerdy.

06:34:53.840 I kind of have natural riz, so it worked.

06:34:55.920 You have natural riz, okay.

06:34:57.760 Haven't you been sold it for, like, two years?

06:34:59.920 Yeah.

06:35:00.620 She's worked on it.

06:35:01.540 She's worked up that riz. 1.00

06:35:02.600 I didn't say it was good.

06:35:03.680 She's perfecting it.

06:35:04.480 So, on the contrary, if you were hanging out with a guy that you had mentally friend-zoned,

06:35:09.140 but you're hanging out, you're laughing, you're having good vibes, he just went in for the

06:35:12.280 kiss and kissed you.

06:35:13.500 I'd be like, please don't ever do that again, but I'm not, like, I'm not going to sue him.

06:35:19.120 No, yeah, obviously, but, like, in that instance, you would have preferred if he asked,

06:35:24.100 so you could have...

06:35:26.100 Or you don't care.

06:35:27.320 Okay.

06:35:27.660 If the vibes were right.

06:35:28.580 I think that, yeah, you know, both people should try to communicate.

06:35:36.180 You know, the guy, maybe check in.

06:35:39.440 Cool if I blast.

06:35:42.340 And then the girl could maybe be like, I am on birth control and I'm allowing you to hit 1.00

06:35:49.460 it raw, but despite this, eh, maybe you could not blast inside, you know.

06:35:56.100 It's a little worried, but pull it out and put it in your mouth.

06:35:59.520 I'll do better.

06:36:00.480 Yeah, you know.

06:36:01.560 Jordan made a good point, though.

06:36:02.920 Girls lie. 1.00

06:36:04.480 Yeah.

06:36:05.200 Lie about being on birth control.

06:36:06.820 I could even see girls...

06:36:07.840 I could even see girls lying about just, like, being okay with it, too.

06:36:12.100 Word.

06:36:12.420 Okay.

06:36:13.060 Maddie, can you read this one?

06:36:14.880 No man has been drafted in the U.S. since Vietnam.

06:36:17.800 Men are still made to sign up for the draft in case of World War III, where everyone dies.

06:36:22.980 Hence, this does not support the argument that men are oppressed in the U.S.

06:36:26.360 Okay, well, I won't linger too long on this, but I've made this point plenty of times, but

06:36:31.100 when it comes to Vietnam, there are men that would be alive today that aren't because they

06:36:35.600 were drafted in Vietnam, and there are men who are alive today who were drafted in Vietnam

06:36:40.760 who have injuries, who have both body and mind.

06:36:44.900 Now, when it comes to the selective service, there are still actual, real, tangible, negative consequences

06:36:58.080 that are exclusively upon men because, for example, there's a $250,000 fine.

06:37:05.480 You can be prosecuted.

06:37:06.860 Are there prosecutions?

06:37:08.300 No, but if you don't register for selective service, you are barred from receiving federal

06:37:17.160 student loans or barred from certain federal programs or barred from certain federal benefits.

06:37:24.820 I think there's a couple other things that you can't vote if you don't register for the

06:37:30.320 selective service.

06:37:31.120 So, if women say that in the 1910s that they were oppressed because they couldn't vote, well, 0.92

06:37:39.240 if, as a man, you're forced to register for the selective service, otherwise you're not

06:37:43.720 allowed to vote, I think that's evidence of oppression.

06:37:46.920 Well, not only that, but notice how inside of that chat he drove kind of a straw man in as

06:37:53.960 well, which is, well, no man has been drafted since Vietnam.

06:37:57.660 That really has nothing to do with anything.

06:37:59.280 And then he says, well, you know, if World War III happens, that just means everyone

06:38:03.460 died.

06:38:03.920 It's like, no, that's also not true.

06:38:06.120 The truth is, is that the form of oppression here is that men can be pressed into selective 0.98

06:38:12.020 service because nobody gives a shit about them and women can't, and yet they gripe on 1.00

06:38:17.260 the opposite side about things that they consider to be oppressive to them when they will never 0.98

06:38:21.440 have to make that ultimate sacrifice.

06:38:22.900 That's the point.

06:38:23.840 And Andrew, if I can ask you, uh, his claim that in the case of World War III, that that

06:38:29.960 would, I mean, in the event of World War III, does that necessarily mean that it would be

06:38:35.960 a nuclear, uh, apocalypse?

06:38:37.760 No, of course not.

06:38:38.700 So there could be. 0.97

06:38:39.400 That's the ridiculous. 0.92

06:38:40.440 Yeah. 0.98

06:38:40.640 That's the second ridiculous part to the claim. 0.90

06:38:42.800 Right. 0.93

06:38:43.120 It makes no sense.

06:38:44.020 Yeah.

06:38:44.260 And I mean, look, it's, it could be because there's multiple countries that have nuclear

06:38:49.400 weapons.

06:38:50.240 Could World War III lead to a nuclear apocalypse?

06:38:54.720 Possibly.

06:38:55.320 But maybe it doesn't start that way.

06:38:56.900 In any case, um, you know, the men would still be drafted.

06:39:00.560 We had nuclear weapons during Vietnam.

06:39:01.800 We've had nuclear weapons the entire time we've been in conflicts across the world.

06:39:05.340 So.

06:39:05.920 Maddie, can you read this one?

06:39:06.820 Um, text-to-speech program completed.

06:39:10.620 DM the link.

06:39:11.920 Brian, to get pardoned from prison, you have to choose three-way with Layla and Nicolette

06:39:16.240 on their OF or morbidly obese virgin. 0.92

06:39:19.520 Looks like. 0.97

06:39:21.240 Jork?

06:39:21.500 Jork.

06:39:22.060 Jork. 0.99

06:39:22.740 Morbidly obese, bro. 0.99

06:39:25.200 Bro. 0.98

06:39:27.180 Have to choose.

06:39:30.160 Well, okay, I'm gonna, so, you haven't added that.

06:39:37.820 Maybe these women have STDs. 1.00

06:39:40.200 I'm gonna assume the virgin doesn't have STDs. 1.00

06:39:43.360 So, okay, I get out of prison.

06:39:44.900 I have to have a three-way with two, these two women who've been on the show before or 1.00

06:39:49.240 morbidly obese virgin. 0.87

06:39:51.220 Um, I'm just gonna take the STD angle on this. 0.87

06:39:55.000 I don't know what, what their situation is.

06:39:57.000 I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to just take one for the team. 0.96

06:39:59.920 I gotta go with the morbidly obese virgin. 0.99

06:40:02.940 Just stay in prison. 1.00

06:40:03.960 I just gotta.

06:40:05.780 No.

06:40:06.140 Or would you stay in prison?

06:40:08.060 I, I'll go with, bro, the STD risk.

06:40:10.600 I ain't, I ain't about it. 0.91

06:40:12.300 I'm going with the morbidly obese virgin. 0.89

06:40:14.440 Sue me. 0.99

06:40:15.140 Okay.

06:40:15.440 Sue.

06:40:15.840 Thank you.

06:40:16.340 Same over here. 0.56

06:40:17.360 Dope.

06:40:17.580 Uh, okay.

06:40:19.300 We have, uh, can you read this one?

06:40:21.540 Hey, Jojo, it's the beefy law dude.

06:40:23.960 Ignore the haters.

06:40:25.120 You're doing great tonight.

06:40:26.220 I won't sniff your seat, but I will buy you sushi.

06:40:28.880 Thank you for the kind words. 1.00

06:40:29.660 What the fuck? 0.99

06:40:30.640 Things are good with my baby's mom. 1.00

06:40:32.420 I'll message you on IG to show pics of me.

06:40:35.040 You gotta show me.

06:40:35.980 Aw.

06:40:36.920 Screwjava.

06:40:37.360 All right, we have this one. 0.98

06:40:39.440 I still want to tongue punch Jojo's fart box.

06:40:42.900 Can we talk about the savior, Patrice O'Neill?

06:40:45.420 What?

06:40:48.360 Brixton's flannel donated $100.

06:40:51.520 Brixton, I see your back cheating on me, the hoodie.

06:40:54.460 Your credibility is zero.

06:40:56.640 Why am I wadded up in the back of your Subaru?

06:40:59.940 Aw.

06:41:02.400 What?

06:41:03.660 You know, I had to take it off during the show.

06:41:05.880 I wanted, I feel like the, the sweater, the hoodie's a little more comfortable.

06:41:09.620 Thank you, though. 0.98

06:41:10.480 And then bro-naissance, Patrice O'Neill, RIP, rest in peace, Patrice O'Neill, fucking legend. 0.93

06:41:17.320 Unfortunately, we don't have time to react to the clip, but appreciate your patronage. 0.61

06:41:21.760 Okay, we're going to wrap up there, guys.

06:41:23.900 Long show, long show.

06:41:26.440 Whew.

06:41:26.960 Okay.

06:41:27.540 So, let me just check a couple things.

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06:41:42.700 I'm going to do a raid over there on Twitch.

06:41:45.300 Who do we have on Twitch that I can raid?

06:41:49.400 We're just going to raid.

06:41:50.340 We're going to raid Bobca.

06:41:51.300 He's playing Season of Discovery, World of Warcraft.

06:41:56.080 So, I'm going to raid Bobca.

06:41:58.580 He's playing.

06:41:59.780 Oh, he's probably going to log off any second now. 1.00

06:42:03.380 Fuck it, but we're going to raid him. 1.00

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Whatever Podcast - March 04, 2024

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