Whatever Podcast - Feminist ACCUSES Him Of MlSOGYNY？! RAGE QUIT？! She Went FERAL？! Andrew Wilson! ｜ Dating Talk #244

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00:05:05.000 With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:05:08.780 So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education.

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00:05:15.060 I'm Jasmine.

00:05:15.960 I'm 23 from Georgia.

00:05:18.880 I'm a bartender.

00:05:20.180 And I have my bachelor's in political science and economics.

00:05:25.560 Are you going for your master's?

00:05:27.520 I am.

00:05:28.460 Okay.

00:05:29.140 In what?

00:05:30.160 In economics, most likely.

00:05:32.000 Okay.

00:05:32.460 What university?

00:05:33.820 I went to Georgia Southern.

00:05:35.640 Georgia.

00:05:36.320 Is that in Atlanta or?

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00:05:38.740 South Georgia.

00:05:39.820 Okay.

00:05:40.220 Got it.

00:05:41.080 All right.

00:05:41.640 And you said political science and economics, you said?

00:05:44.780 Yes.

00:05:45.360 You have a minor in economics?

00:05:46.780 Minor, yeah.

00:05:47.060 Okay.

00:05:47.420 Gotcha.

00:05:48.300 What about you?

00:05:49.720 Hi, everybody.

00:05:50.340 I'm Erica Perry.

00:05:51.220 People also call me E.T.

00:05:52.620 I'm 30 years old.

00:05:53.820 I'm from Orange County, California.

00:05:55.300 And I'm an independent music artist.

00:05:57.460 I released my debut album this year.

00:06:00.380 You can find it on Spotify.

00:06:02.320 Alpha Music.

00:06:03.260 Yeah.

00:06:03.960 Also, on my Instagram, PhoneHomeBabyE.T.

00:06:07.680 And did you, where are you from again?

00:06:09.660 Orange County.

00:06:10.600 Always from OC?

00:06:12.080 OC Baby.

00:06:13.260 Okay.

00:06:13.860 Any school?

00:06:15.020 I dropped out from Cal State Long Beach because they tried to make me get the.

00:06:20.840 Oh, the Fauci-Auchi? 0.89

00:06:23.060 Yeah.

00:06:23.600 They wouldn't let me register for my second semester. 0.99

00:06:26.140 I'm like, fuck, no. 0.99

00:06:28.820 So you, wait, but you're 30, right? 1.00

00:06:30.840 Did you do like university out of high school?

00:06:31.960 I did like seven years, like many years of community college because I didn't know what

00:06:36.240 my major was going to be.

00:06:36.840 Did you get an associate's degree?

00:06:38.100 Yeah.

00:06:38.460 What was your associate's degree in?

00:06:40.140 Communication.

00:06:40.860 Com?

00:06:41.280 Okay.

00:06:41.560 I know.

00:06:42.060 It's like.

00:06:42.360 Throw that in the toilet. 1.00

00:06:43.300 Um, and, but so you went back to school, you were going to get your bachelor's, but then

00:06:48.620 you.

00:06:49.340 No, I was, I took like many years in community college.

00:06:52.200 I just like took my dandy time.

00:06:54.840 But you, you said you went back a bit more recently.

00:06:58.580 No, that I was in community college for like, so I started for what?

00:07:03.840 22.

00:07:04.940 And then in 2021, um, I was in Cal State Long Beach and then they wouldn't let me register

00:07:11.960 for 2022.

00:07:13.300 Okay.

00:07:13.840 Yeah.

00:07:14.060 Got it.

00:07:14.800 And you're a singer.

00:07:15.780 Let's, uh, hear something. 1.00

00:07:17.720 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:07:19.620 Where's your guitar? 1.00

00:07:20.440 Okay.

00:07:20.620 Your guitar.

00:07:20.880 I know.

00:07:21.180 Right.

00:07:21.740 All right.

00:07:22.020 This is my original.

00:07:23.080 It's called pop it.

00:07:27.900 Is that part of it?

00:07:29.380 Yeah.

00:07:29.940 Yeah.

00:07:30.420 Like a little, a little cleave.

00:07:32.020 I like it.

00:07:32.680 Go ahead.

00:07:33.040 Continue.

00:07:33.540 Continue.

00:07:33.980 Go ahead.

00:07:35.820 I'm literally getting such anxiety.

00:07:38.080 I have, can we like go back?

00:07:39.360 Hold on.

00:07:39.800 Wait, wait, wait.

00:07:40.840 You, you were on American Idol in front of Katy Perry and I don't know who else is, was Simon

00:07:48.020 for some reason I have more anxiety in front of you and I don't know why I think it's

00:07:51.780 cause I saw, I saw Andrew's name on like the whole title and that, well, he's not here

00:07:56.680 yet, but he's too, I'm shaking, thinking about it.

00:07:59.780 You're, you're literally shaking.

00:08:01.400 Yeah.

00:08:01.640 I'm scared of you, Andrew.

00:08:03.600 If you're watching, he's not watching and his wife. 0.62

00:08:06.000 Oh my God.

00:08:06.380 I was watching like, yeah, there's some, yeah, but you were, okay.

00:08:09.440 You were on American Idol.

00:08:10.540 You were in front of Katy Perry and I don't know who's the other guy.

00:08:13.440 That was the first time I ever sang in front of people.

00:08:16.100 Okay.

00:08:16.420 No one knew I sang.

00:08:17.520 That was like my deep secret.

00:08:18.860 All right.

00:08:19.160 Here's number two.

00:08:19.940 Go ahead.

00:08:21.480 Okay.

00:08:22.020 Everyone, this is called pop it.

00:08:26.000 Okay.

00:08:26.440 I can't, I can't go to the next person.

00:08:27.740 Ready?

00:08:28.200 Yeah.

00:08:29.160 Get her, get her a shot of the tequila she gifted me. 1.00

00:08:31.560 No, I'm just kidding.

00:08:32.320 Wait, can you take a shot with me?

00:08:33.720 I don't, uh, no.

00:08:34.600 Brian, come on.

00:08:36.060 We're here for eight hours.

00:08:37.520 If somebody pops a ball of, if somebody pops a ball of champagne, I'll have some champagne.

00:08:39.400 You guys, TTS, so Brian will take shots with me.

00:08:41.780 Okay.

00:08:42.040 I will die if I take a shot of tequila.

00:08:43.140 $200 for a shot.

00:08:44.440 Okay.

00:08:44.600 Uh, disagree, disagree with the pricing on that one.

00:08:47.300 No, it's valid.

00:08:48.480 Uh, all right.

00:08:49.180 What about you?

00:08:49.960 I'm Amy Jeffers.

00:08:51.160 I'm from Manteca, California.

00:08:52.700 It's about five hours north of here.

00:08:54.440 Mm-hmm.

00:08:55.120 And, um, my medical assistant, uh, I don't do that anymore.

00:08:59.720 Okay.

00:09:00.040 Because I didn't want to do the...

00:09:01.380 Age.

00:09:02.320 Ouchie, yeah.

00:09:03.140 So now I just help take care of my father who's recovering from cancer.

00:09:07.420 He's still going through his cancer treatment, though.

00:09:09.680 And I do OnlyFans.

00:09:11.540 Age?

00:09:12.500 52.

00:09:13.600 52.

00:09:14.240 Okay.

00:09:14.980 And any education, college, anything like that?

00:09:17.740 Associate's degree.

00:09:18.920 All right.

00:09:19.520 And...

00:09:20.160 From...

00:09:20.520 Is it in healthcare or...

00:09:21.740 Yeah.

00:09:22.180 Okay.

00:09:22.700 Because you said you were a...

00:09:23.920 I got it back in 2012.

00:09:27.280 2012.

00:09:27.560 2012.

00:09:28.120 When I graduated.

00:09:29.320 Okay.

00:09:29.840 Associate.

00:09:30.420 What's the associate?

00:09:31.500 Associate in science.

00:09:32.780 Okay.

00:09:33.100 For medical assisting.

00:09:34.320 All right.

00:09:35.380 What about you?

00:09:36.460 I'm Lauren Selby.

00:09:37.580 I'm 40.

00:09:38.340 I'm a personal chef.

00:09:40.060 I'm from Huntington Beach.

00:09:41.700 Uh, I have a bachelor's in culinary management.

00:09:45.640 And, yeah.

00:09:46.560 That's it.

00:09:47.440 All right.

00:09:47.840 Nothing special.

00:09:48.300 Any education?

00:09:49.120 Or you said bachelor's in culinary management, it was?

00:09:51.680 Yeah, correct.

00:09:51.920 Okay.

00:09:52.760 Got it.

00:09:53.920 From, uh, which university?

00:09:55.440 Or was it like a...

00:09:56.360 Art Institute.

00:09:57.240 Oh, okay.

00:09:57.720 Got it.

00:09:58.060 It's you, Nana.

00:09:59.020 What about you?

00:10:00.040 Savannah Stone.

00:10:01.060 I'm from Florida.

00:10:02.260 I'm 19 years old.

00:10:03.760 I'm a social media influencer.

00:10:06.220 And I have a high school diploma.

00:10:08.660 All right.

00:10:09.140 Any plans to go to college or anything like that?

00:10:10.960 Nope.

00:10:11.260 I think it's a scam.

00:10:12.180 Just...

00:10:12.420 There you go.

00:10:12.880 Think it's a scam.

00:10:14.320 Okay.

00:10:15.180 Maybe some, uh, you two might tangle on that one.

00:10:18.140 Um, what about you?

00:10:20.600 I'm Julie.

00:10:21.280 I'm 45.

00:10:22.820 I, uh, went to Cal State University, Long Beach.

00:10:25.540 I have a bachelor's in psychology and also my education specialist credential.

00:10:29.760 Um, I'm from the outer parts of LA.

00:10:32.320 Um, I currently, I recently, recently went back to teaching and I also am an administrative

00:10:38.460 assistant for a private ministry.

00:10:41.060 Um, we do commercial investments.

00:10:43.200 We help people in the, uh, private sector.

00:10:46.180 So everything we do is in the private.

00:10:47.940 Um, we do investments with commercial paper.

00:10:51.060 Um, so if there's any people with lots of money or any OnlyFans ladies who would like 1.00

00:10:55.860 to invest, um, there's a lot of money to be made in that arena.

00:11:00.000 Wait, you said it's through a ministry?

00:11:02.520 Yes.

00:11:03.380 Wait, you want OnlyFans girls to invest through you? 1.00

00:11:05.960 So, so one of the ways of, um, operating in, in business in the private sector would be

00:11:13.040 to have, uh, something called a private membership association.

00:11:16.120 So basically you're operating out of your, uh, your first amendment rights, which is through

00:11:22.500 your religious, uh, freedom.

00:11:25.900 And so when you operate that way, instead of taking payments, you take donations.

00:11:29.640 Um, and so it allows you to be tax free.

00:11:32.580 Um, there's lots of great ways to operate, um, that put you in a favorable position when

00:11:38.660 it comes to business and taxes and many, many things.

00:11:44.320 Um, so yes, um, it isn't necessarily a ministry in the way that people might consider it that

00:11:49.480 way.

00:11:49.740 Just tax evasion?

00:11:50.980 It's not tax evasion.

00:11:52.160 Taxes are actually voluntary.

00:11:53.840 Um, but you can't, you can't just, well, you can't just not pay tax.

00:11:57.440 Wait, are you a sovereign citizen?

00:11:59.580 I'm not a sovereign citizen.

00:12:01.840 Um, however, um, operating in the private puts you in particular positions, but you

00:12:09.620 cannot just opt out of, um, paying taxes is, is what I'm saying.

00:12:14.240 You have to do it in a particular way.

00:12:15.800 Got it.

00:12:16.160 Okay.

00:12:16.700 But you said that, uh, what, what's the involvement?

00:12:19.680 You mentioned OnlyFans girls.

00:12:20.920 What's the involvement with, do you work directly with OnlyFans girls? 0.99

00:12:24.080 No, not at all.

00:12:25.100 I just put that out there since oftentimes there's, uh, several guests.

00:12:29.020 Um, who say that they make a lot of money and, um, if that's something that they wanted

00:12:33.160 to do to protect their assets, I didn't mean it that way, but, um, it would be an option.

00:12:38.720 So I just threw that out there.

00:12:39.780 Wait, so the income generated, you're saying an OnlyFans girl could generate income, but 1.00

00:12:45.860 if they set up, uh, like an organization in such a way that they, their OnlyFans income

00:12:50.940 would not be taxed?

00:12:52.240 There are particular ways to operate, um, so that they're, well, uh, not necessarily because

00:12:57.840 with, with, for their situation, um, they are going through a particular entity and that

00:13:04.080 entity is in the public sector.

00:13:05.940 Um, but you could take the money you make and invest, um, and make money in that, in that

00:13:11.660 realm.

00:13:12.440 Okay.

00:13:13.440 What about you?

00:13:14.080 My name is Carla Lito.

00:13:16.620 I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist in Los Angeles, California, and a relationship

00:13:22.440 coach and the author of the book, Outsmarting Egomaniacs, How to Respond to Narcissists and

00:13:28.460 Master Manipulators.

00:13:29.740 Got it.

00:13:30.360 Uh, age?

00:13:31.900 50.

00:13:33.000 All right.

00:13:33.640 And, uh, education?

00:13:36.120 Um, two master's degrees in psychology.

00:13:38.660 Both of them in psychology or are they, it's like sub category or?

00:13:43.520 Yeah.

00:13:43.820 One is, um, one was an academic based, um, en route to a doctorate and then I changed my

00:13:49.340 mind and did a clinical, um, emphasis in marriage and family to be licensed as a therapist.

00:13:56.360 And you're a marriage therapist or relationship therapist?

00:14:00.060 Yes.

00:14:00.280 Psychotherapist.

00:14:01.300 Um, and I specialize in relationship issues.

00:14:04.820 What's the, uh, there's like a title.

00:14:07.840 LMFT.

00:14:08.660 LMFT.

00:14:09.280 What does that stand for?

00:14:10.140 It's licensed, licensed family therapy.

00:14:12.160 Okay.

00:14:12.520 Got it.

00:14:13.080 Right, right, right.

00:14:14.100 Okay.

00:14:14.480 Welcome.

00:14:15.020 What about you?

00:14:16.320 Hi, my name is Nausicaa.

00:14:18.160 I'm 19 years old and I'm currently studying pre-business at UC Riverside, but I'm originally

00:14:24.180 from San Francisco, California, and I'm also a content creator in the fitness niche.

00:14:30.800 All right.

00:14:31.160 What do you do with, uh, the fitness stuff?

00:14:33.440 I just like, I post my workouts.

00:14:35.280 I post like inspirational videos.

00:14:37.340 I post lots of mind, like self-growth and stuff like that too.

00:14:42.180 Okay.

00:14:42.860 Got it.

00:14:43.820 All right.

00:14:44.400 Welcome everybody.

00:14:45.160 We're going to go around the table once more.

00:14:46.740 What is your current relationship status?

00:14:49.480 If you're single, how long have you been single?

00:14:51.940 And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?

00:14:53.940 Go ahead.

00:14:54.780 Uh, currently single.

00:14:56.180 Last relationship I was in was about two years ago and it was also my longest relationship,

00:15:02.040 about three years.

00:15:03.620 All right.

00:15:05.560 And the three-year relationships, the ones that ended two years ago.

00:15:08.500 Yes.

00:15:08.960 Who broke up with who?

00:15:10.400 Um, I think by the end of it, it was mutual.

00:15:13.840 By the end, it was mutual.

00:15:15.840 Okay.

00:15:16.520 Uh, was it ever on and off at any points?

00:15:19.900 How many times was it off?

00:15:21.880 Um, two.

00:15:23.740 Two times.

00:15:24.380 Yes.

00:15:24.700 Okay.

00:15:25.600 Uh, of the times it was off, who initiated those?

00:15:27.880 Was it you or him?

00:15:28.660 I did the first time and then he did the second time.

00:15:32.020 Got it.

00:15:32.660 Okay.

00:15:33.320 Were you guys, uh, what were the breaks in between the, during the off periods?

00:15:38.380 Yeah.

00:15:39.100 Um, I'd say three months for the first one and maybe similar for the second.

00:15:44.960 Got it.

00:15:45.580 Okay.

00:15:46.320 Uh, was there any infidelity in the relationship?

00:15:49.100 No.

00:15:49.680 No.

00:15:49.960 Okay.

00:15:51.180 What about you?

00:15:52.480 Um, I'm so sorry.

00:15:54.660 Can you repeat the question?

00:15:56.300 Relationship status?

00:15:57.320 Oh, I'm single.

00:15:58.760 How long have you been single?

00:16:02.380 That's up for negotiation.

00:16:03.780 But, so I was in a relationship for three years and we were hooking up for four years

00:16:10.300 and we stopped talking to each other in July last year.

00:16:12.900 So we've been no contact for almost a year.

00:16:16.220 No contact for almost a year.

00:16:18.060 It's so terrible.

00:16:18.860 He blocked me.

00:16:20.860 Uh, so you, would you say you've been single for a year?

00:16:26.220 Sure.

00:16:27.360 But there's, okay, well, we'll get into that.

00:16:29.400 But, uh, longest relationship?

00:16:31.120 Him.

00:16:31.600 Three years.

00:16:32.080 Three years.

00:16:32.440 Yeah.

00:16:32.740 Okay.

00:16:33.220 Who broke up with who?

00:16:34.180 He broke up with me.

00:16:35.340 Okay.

00:16:35.680 Why is that?

00:16:37.320 Um, multitude of reasons.

00:16:40.600 Um, first one being his friends and family did not like me.

00:16:43.620 Uh, why?

00:16:45.560 Yeah.

00:16:45.640 Because of my past.

00:16:46.900 What about your past?

00:16:48.740 I was a sex worker in the past.

00:16:51.900 Uh, but like he knew that from the get go.

00:16:53.640 Like the first day we met, I told him.

00:16:55.260 He didn't care.

00:16:55.580 When you say sex worker, what kind of sex work? 0.95

00:16:57.880 Stripper, escort. 0.97

00:16:58.960 Uh, okay.

00:17:00.760 Uh, and the other reason he broke up with you was because you refused to serenade him?

00:17:05.140 Is that?

00:17:05.680 I was used to, yeah.

00:17:06.420 You refused to serenade him?

00:17:07.580 Ryan, I know.

00:17:08.360 Okay.

00:17:09.180 No, it was because, so he let his friends and family get to his head and, um, he started

00:17:16.280 coming up with like his own reasons, I would guess.

00:17:18.220 And he said I had no motivation, no drive.

00:17:20.980 And yeah, that's why.

00:17:22.760 Okay.

00:17:24.000 And, um, uh, your past.

00:17:29.960 So you said dancing, escorting.

00:17:32.520 Yeah.

00:17:32.900 How many different, uh, I guess clients did you have when it came to escorting?

00:17:36.520 How many different?

00:17:37.580 Yeah.

00:17:38.080 How many clients did you have?

00:17:39.140 How many?

00:17:39.700 Yeah.

00:17:41.320 Clients.

00:17:42.240 Oh, I, I don't know.

00:17:44.540 Cause most like, they weren't like all sexual, like.

00:17:47.700 Yeah, that's fine if it's like sugar baby, but. 0.64

00:17:49.900 Oh, I couldn't count on my hand.

00:17:51.900 I'm so sorry.

00:17:52.680 I don't have the exact number.

00:17:54.400 You think it was over a hundred?

00:17:55.940 Oh, not at that time.

00:17:57.440 No, no.

00:17:57.820 Before I met him.

00:17:58.480 No, in total.

00:17:59.540 Before him, it was definitely less than a hundred.

00:18:01.800 After him, can't say the same.

00:18:03.720 Are you currently, uh, involved in sex work?

00:18:06.500 No, I'm unemployed.

00:18:10.000 Unemployed.

00:18:10.480 Okay.

00:18:11.000 Uh, when's the last time you were involved in sex work of any kind?

00:18:15.420 Last year.

00:18:16.140 Last year.

00:18:16.700 And you were escorting or?

00:18:18.340 Yeah, just dates.

00:18:19.300 No sex. 0.72

00:18:20.180 Just dates.

00:18:20.720 So sugar, sugar baby.

00:18:22.120 Yeah, sugaring.

00:18:22.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:23.260 All right.

00:18:24.840 And sugar daddies. 0.99

00:18:26.420 How many sugar daddies have you had in total? 0.99

00:18:30.520 I, I, I'm so sorry.

00:18:32.320 I'm not trying to not give you an exact number.

00:18:33.900 I genuinely do not know.

00:18:35.260 Well, I don't need a precise number, but you could say like over 50, over.

00:18:38.540 Oh, it's how to be hundreds.

00:18:40.160 Oh, in the hundreds.

00:18:41.120 Yeah.

00:18:41.820 Got it.

00:18:42.340 All right.

00:18:43.420 And, uh, okay.

00:18:45.920 Through your relationship, single for one year in this one year, uh, are you, is there

00:18:51.480 currently a guy in the picture?

00:18:52.960 No, I mean, I have like a roster.

00:18:55.280 You have a roster.

00:18:56.200 How big is the roster currently?

00:18:57.320 It's slimmed down.

00:18:58.420 Definitely.

00:18:59.160 Cause.

00:18:59.440 To what?

00:18:59.760 So I'm only like sleeping with one person right now.

00:19:04.820 How many people are you dating right now?

00:19:07.020 Dating?

00:19:07.380 Yeah.

00:19:08.280 Hmm.

00:19:10.340 Like nine.

00:19:11.760 Okay.

00:19:12.380 Yeah.

00:19:12.960 Uh, dating nine.

00:19:15.620 Yeah.

00:19:15.960 And then some go off the roster, new ones come in, uh, at its peak throughout your whole

00:19:21.200 life, how big has the roster been?

00:19:24.080 Um, so right now I really enjoy my roster of men.

00:19:27.960 And they're like super kind to me in the past.

00:19:30.200 They were terrible.

00:19:31.000 Sure.

00:19:31.460 These ones this year, it's like so refreshing.

00:19:33.780 2025 brought like the best, the best.

00:19:37.420 Yeah.

00:19:37.760 The best of the best.

00:19:39.240 But in the past, I don't.

00:19:40.680 What's the, has it ever been like 15?

00:19:43.060 Has it ever been 20 of the roster?

00:19:44.620 Oh, probably.

00:19:46.660 What's the biggest 30?

00:19:48.860 Brian, you're giving me mathematical questions.

00:19:52.760 I, I don't know the exact number, but I know.

00:19:56.560 The, I was, so I used to do a lot of Xanax, so I don't, I don't, no, I'm, I'm being dead 0.97

00:20:03.360 ass. 0.92

00:20:03.680 Like I was like, I was like, I used to do drugs. 0.98

00:20:08.560 No, like I was criminally addicted and I'm not anymore.

00:20:13.540 I've been, have you been to rehab?

00:20:15.220 Yes.

00:20:15.760 How many times?

00:20:16.500 Once.

00:20:17.020 I left after one day cause it was a bunch of heroin addicts and like, it just didn't

00:20:20.940 fit in.

00:20:21.540 You didn't fit in with the, they were scary.

00:20:24.400 They were like, I'm not to be, no, I'm not judging heroin addicts.

00:20:27.040 No, no.

00:20:27.240 But like the rehab I got sent to was like kind of low, um, low income cause like it was on

00:20:33.720 my medical insurance.

00:20:34.460 You wanted the bougie rehab. 1.00

00:20:36.020 I wanted Malibu retreat.

00:20:37.760 Yeah.

00:20:37.980 Why didn't you go to Malibu retreat?

00:20:39.620 Cause I don't have, my mom's not rich like that. 1.00

00:20:42.480 One of the sugar daddies could have paid for it. 1.00

00:20:44.560 No, he got shot and I had to go to rehab.

00:20:47.240 Sorry.

00:20:47.480 This is, I'm getting so deep so fast.

00:20:49.900 Which one of the multiple of your sugar daddies got shot?

00:20:52.940 I had a main sugar daddy.

00:20:54.780 The main sugar daddy got shot.

00:20:56.140 Yes.

00:20:56.420 He got shot.

00:20:57.040 So he was in the hospital.

00:20:58.720 How did he get, how old was the sugar daddy?

00:21:00.820 He was, so at the time I was 20 and he was 41.

00:21:04.980 How, what was he, how did he get shot?

00:21:07.520 Why?

00:21:08.140 So yes, good question.

00:21:09.240 He was very, oh my God, I probably shouldn't say this.

00:21:11.500 I have people that are probably, okay, whatever.

00:21:13.220 You got people in the streets?

00:21:15.360 No, who cares?

00:21:16.400 Who are watching this?

00:21:17.080 You got to snitch?

00:21:18.060 You can't snitch.

00:21:19.180 There are ops out here, Brian.

00:21:21.100 The ops out here.

00:21:21.880 The ops, sorry.

00:21:22.160 Yeah, don't snitch, but what happened?

00:21:23.360 No, he was like very involved in the cannabis industry, not in like the low stratosphere.

00:21:27.600 Like he was one of the pioneers, what you would see, the commercialization right now. 0.99

00:21:32.080 And yeah, he was just like an asshole to a lot of people, had a lot of enemies. 0.99

00:21:36.360 And yeah, so I was with him when he got shot the first time. 0.99

00:21:39.200 You were there.

00:21:40.020 Yeah, no.

00:21:40.340 Wait, he got shot.

00:21:40.760 I had a gun to my head.

00:21:41.540 Hold on, by the way.

00:21:42.080 Yeah.

00:21:42.420 Hold on.

00:21:42.820 Shot the first time?

00:21:47.960 So he got shot the second time.

00:21:49.280 The second time he got murdered.

00:21:51.340 Yeah, he's dead.

00:21:52.680 I can't see that.

00:21:54.000 Oh.

00:21:54.720 Oh my God, I'm so hungry.

00:21:56.200 Are you going to kick me off?

00:21:57.220 No.

00:21:57.580 He's unalive.

00:21:58.380 He's unalive.

00:21:59.200 No, it's fine.

00:21:59.940 It's fine.

00:22:00.200 I'm actually so sorry.

00:22:01.780 It's okay.

00:22:02.180 You're fine.

00:22:02.520 You're fine.

00:22:03.140 It's not a big deal.

00:22:04.240 Okay.

00:22:05.360 Were you there when he got?

00:22:07.020 No, not that when he got unalive.

00:22:10.220 No, no.

00:22:10.680 Yikes.

00:22:10.800 The first time, yes.

00:22:12.080 I had a gun to my head.

00:22:12.900 Wait, he was in the legal cannabis industry?

00:22:15.020 Yes.

00:22:15.860 Well, so before it became legalized, it's what, you know, there was a gray area.

00:22:21.660 Sorry, I'm not speaking into the mic.

00:22:22.800 My bad.

00:22:23.180 That's fine.

00:22:24.440 So, okay.

00:22:25.100 And then you were also addicted to Xanax, and then you went to rehab.

00:22:29.180 And like Molly and everything.

00:22:30.740 It was like poverty rehab.

00:22:33.120 It was low income because I had like Kaiser.

00:22:37.040 Permanente.

00:22:37.700 Yes.

00:22:38.600 We wasn't Malibu retreats.

00:22:40.260 There wasn't celebrities.

00:22:41.400 It was like people that had like, you know, before you get veneers, the little nubs.

00:22:46.440 Do you have veneers?

00:22:47.840 No.

00:22:48.180 I've never, I don't have veneers.

00:22:49.800 Not to like mention, but I think people who have veneers don't brush their teeth.

00:22:53.320 I think they go the op out so they can like have bad breath.

00:22:56.840 Probably.

00:22:57.760 Or not so.

00:22:58.340 I'm saying.

00:22:58.780 You didn't brush your teeth.

00:22:59.300 That's why they have veneers.

00:23:00.420 Yes.

00:23:00.920 They didn't brush their teeth, so they got veneers.

00:23:02.820 So, the original question though was, how big was the roster to which you said, I don't

00:23:07.360 remember.

00:23:07.860 I was on Xanax.

00:23:08.600 Oh my God.

00:23:08.940 We got in like a whole spiral.

00:23:11.540 Do you think, but there are probably windows of like lucidity.

00:23:14.780 Last year?

00:23:15.200 Okay.

00:23:15.420 Let me try to count.

00:23:16.740 You're probably like lucid during periods.

00:23:18.860 Well, how often are you going on the dates?

00:23:21.720 At its peak.

00:23:23.040 I don't do sugar dates this year.

00:23:25.080 I'm dating for fun now.

00:23:27.440 She's dating for fun. 0.87

00:23:28.160 Oh, wait.

00:23:28.460 No, no.

00:23:28.820 I take that back.

00:23:29.480 I have, I had one of the guys that was just like giving me money.

00:23:32.760 I've never met him in person.

00:23:34.180 Oh, wait, no.

00:23:34.700 I have two.

00:23:35.000 Sorry.

00:23:36.260 And so, would you say maybe like at its peak, maybe the roster was 20?

00:23:41.760 Yeah.

00:23:42.160 Something like that.

00:23:42.860 Something like that.

00:23:43.500 Okay.

00:23:43.580 A little bit of this and that.

00:23:44.380 Going back to you, Jazz, here really quick.

00:23:46.100 You said you've been single for two years, but are there currently like any guys in the

00:23:49.540 picture or anything?

00:23:50.060 Currently, no.

00:23:50.920 Currently, no.

00:23:51.880 And, excuse me, in the past two years, have you had any situationships or anything?

00:23:56.640 Yes.

00:23:57.840 What's, I guess, have you had like three months?

00:23:59.460 Six-month situationship in the past?

00:24:01.320 I'd say three months.

00:24:02.640 The most recent was just a month long and that ended last week.

00:24:07.240 Ended last week?

00:24:08.220 Yeah.

00:24:08.580 Okay.

00:24:08.860 So, that's pretty fresh.

00:24:09.780 Yeah.

00:24:10.440 Are you upset about it?

00:24:11.960 No, I'm good.

00:24:12.320 You're good?

00:24:12.760 Yeah.

00:24:12.920 Who ended it?

00:24:13.700 Or was it like a mutual ghost?

00:24:14.940 So, I found out that he had a girlfriend of seven years.

00:24:19.180 Seven?

00:24:19.840 Yeah.

00:24:20.420 Nice.

00:24:20.600 And they had just bought a house together in January.

00:24:23.380 Good times.

00:24:24.140 So, I was just, yeah.

00:24:25.920 So, I blocked him and let her know and it's over.

00:24:30.840 Good times.

00:24:31.320 Oh, you contacted the other girl?

00:24:32.980 Oh, yeah.

00:24:33.280 Immediately, yeah.

00:24:35.100 Good times.

00:24:35.580 Wait, what did she say?

00:24:36.880 She- 0.99

00:24:37.560 Did she know?

00:24:38.020 I don't want to air their drama, but she like called him first and talked to him for four

00:24:43.420 hours before talking to me about it.

00:24:45.680 Oh, so he manipulated her.

00:24:46.860 Yes.

00:24:47.200 Yeah.

00:24:48.500 Last week.

00:24:48.900 There it goes.

00:24:50.400 And so, are you on dating apps currently?

00:24:53.960 I haven't logged on since then.

00:24:57.080 Okay.

00:24:57.360 Since before I met him.

00:24:58.240 No guys in the picture?

00:24:59.840 No.

00:25:00.240 Nothing.

00:25:00.740 Okay.

00:25:00.980 No prospects?

00:25:01.460 It's been a week.

00:25:02.240 No prospects?

00:25:03.340 No.

00:25:04.040 All right.

00:25:04.680 And have you ever had a roster?

00:25:08.020 Um, that's like a high school thing, I feel like.

00:25:10.740 At least for me.

00:25:12.420 Like, yeah, for me.

00:25:13.780 Oh, she's-

00:25:14.220 I'm very immature.

00:25:15.160 I'm a 30-year-old, 15-year-old.

00:25:17.360 No, no.

00:25:19.160 Yeah, ET, how do you feel about that?

00:25:20.940 She's saying that-

00:25:21.820 It's okay. 0.99

00:25:22.420 You're doing some high school shit with your nine deep roster. 0.98

00:25:27.020 I just haven't talked to more than one guy at a time in like a very long time, I feel. 0.98

00:25:32.120 Okay, so you're one person at a time.

00:25:34.000 Wait, how old are you again?

00:25:34.900 23.

00:25:35.800 Oh, you're so mature.

00:25:37.260 Are you guys related?

00:25:38.500 No.

00:25:39.040 No?

00:25:39.620 Thank you.

00:25:40.040 Wait, what are you?

00:25:41.420 What do you mean?

00:25:42.040 Yeah, they look like they could be related.

00:25:42.860 Like, what's your ethnicity?

00:25:43.220 My dad's black and my mom's white.

00:25:44.820 Oh, yeah, you're very exotic looking.

00:25:46.440 I like it.

00:25:46.880 Oh, thank you.

00:25:47.500 Beautiful.

00:25:48.640 Is she allowed to say that?

00:25:50.120 Um-

00:25:50.480 Is she allowed to call-

00:25:51.340 Everyone says it.

00:25:52.380 Like, what if I'm white?

00:25:53.040 I think I'm exotic looking.

00:25:54.940 But like, hold on.

00:25:55.820 If a white guy was like, wow, you're so exotic, wouldn't you raise an eyebrow?

00:26:00.020 Yeah, it happens all the time.

00:26:01.400 Wait, really?

00:26:01.780 Is that offensive?

00:26:02.660 No, it's not offensive.

00:26:03.840 It just makes me feel like-

00:26:05.500 So what do you prefer?

00:26:06.300 Just beautiful?

00:26:06.860 No, I-

00:26:07.900 Right?

00:26:08.060 Yeah, like, why can't they just give like a normal compliment, I feel like?

00:26:10.920 Well, because like, okay, I get-

00:26:12.780 No, I don't hate it from you.

00:26:13.760 I didn't realize that it was like-

00:26:15.320 No, I think it's weird from guys.

00:26:17.460 Like, genuinely just from guys.

00:26:19.040 Hmm.

00:26:19.560 White guys. 0.81

00:26:20.260 Hmm.

00:26:20.780 Looking at you two from the side, you guys look like you could be related.

00:26:24.320 Is that because you think that like, if they think that you're beautiful and exotic,

00:26:28.760 that your beauty is a fetish and not just beauty?

00:26:31.260 Yes, exactly.

00:26:31.620 Okay.

00:26:32.160 Yeah.

00:26:32.800 All right.

00:26:34.220 What about, whoops, that pen just flew out of there. 0.71

00:26:37.520 What about you?

00:26:38.500 I've been single for about two and a half years.

00:26:40.900 All right.

00:26:43.380 Currently, no man in the picture.

00:26:45.440 Okay.

00:26:45.760 Longest relationship?

00:26:48.040 Actually, it was this one, this last one.

00:26:51.180 Yeah.

00:26:51.500 How long was that?

00:26:52.280 Eight years.

00:26:53.000 Eight years.

00:26:53.460 Were you married?

00:26:54.420 Yeah, I've been married three times.

00:26:55.860 Married three times?

00:26:56.580 Okay.

00:26:57.120 Any kids?

00:26:57.820 One.

00:26:58.180 One kid?

00:26:59.100 Is that from your first, second, or third marriage?

00:27:01.160 None of them.

00:27:01.860 That was actually an oopsie.

00:27:04.440 It was a friend with benefits.

00:27:06.460 Okay.

00:27:06.860 And how old were you when you had your, is it daughter, son?

00:27:11.620 Mm-hmm.

00:27:11.820 Daughter.

00:27:12.280 Daughter?

00:27:12.740 She's 15.

00:27:14.240 15.

00:27:14.860 Okay.

00:27:15.120 So you had her 37?

00:27:16.320 I was 37, yes.

00:27:18.360 And that, okay, so give me the chronological order of the three marriages.

00:27:24.320 So how old were you when you first got married?

00:27:27.060 First time, 17.

00:27:28.600 17.

00:27:29.200 And how long were you married for?

00:27:30.320 About two years.

00:27:31.460 Two years.

00:27:32.100 And then who initiated the divorce?

00:27:33.780 I did.

00:27:34.440 I was getting physically abused.

00:27:37.560 And then your second marriage, how old were you?

00:27:39.980 I was about, ooh, 20.

00:27:42.900 20.

00:27:43.480 20.

00:27:43.600 Okay, so not too long after the end of your first marriage.

00:27:46.600 How long was your second marriage?

00:27:49.320 Well, we were like married, like agreeable married for about maybe five months.

00:27:55.120 And then he was in the Navy.

00:27:56.620 So then all of a sudden we lost contact.

00:27:58.220 And back then that was before cell phones and even computers, really.

00:28:03.440 I mean, people had computers, but they weren't like mainstream.

00:28:06.560 This was way back in like 93.

00:28:08.380 This was like early, early 90s?

00:28:09.760 Yeah.

00:28:09.860 93, yes.

00:28:11.160 Okay.

00:28:11.520 And he was in the Navy.

00:28:12.780 I was in Guam.

00:28:13.620 That's where I met him.

00:28:15.020 And yeah, like you, I was an exotic dancer years ago.

00:28:18.180 Oh.

00:28:18.320 What were you doing in Guam?

00:28:19.740 Dancing.

00:28:20.940 In Guam?

00:28:21.620 Yeah.

00:28:22.020 They have clubs out there.

00:28:23.000 Yeah, it's a big naval station, Air Force Base too out there.

00:28:26.920 So how long were you married to him?

00:28:29.160 We were only, well, legally as far as dates from 93 to about 90, beginning of 94.

00:28:35.920 So about a year.

00:28:37.140 Okay.

00:28:37.560 A little over a year.

00:28:38.380 Got it.

00:28:38.880 Yeah.

00:28:39.440 But you separated prior to that?

00:28:40.840 Yes, yes.

00:28:41.760 And then, so you were what?

00:28:44.140 You were 21?

00:28:44.480 I was 20 when I married him.

00:28:46.120 And then 21.

00:28:46.900 And then the third one, I was 22 when I married him.

00:28:49.600 Third marriage, 22. 0.93

00:28:51.860 How long did that last?

00:28:53.500 About six months.

00:28:54.780 I realized I wasn't in love with the guy.

00:28:56.800 I loved him as a friend, but I wasn't in love with him.

00:28:59.880 Got it.

00:29:00.420 Yeah.

00:29:01.180 And I thought maybe, you know, down the road, I can have maybe a kid or two and try to do

00:29:06.760 that love thing.

00:29:07.860 And I'm like, no, no, no.

00:29:09.860 Sure.

00:29:10.580 And that was another thing.

00:29:11.600 I didn't want to have kids right then too.

00:29:13.100 And he was really wanting to start having babies.

00:29:15.400 And I'm like, no, I'm not ready for this yet.

00:29:18.020 Got it.

00:29:18.500 And you said, okay, that lasted, and sorry, you were 22?

00:29:22.660 Mm-hmm.

00:29:23.580 Okay.

00:29:24.540 And that one lasted.

00:29:25.820 And you divorced him?

00:29:26.860 You initiated the divorce?

00:29:27.480 Yes, I initiated the divorce.

00:29:28.300 So you initiated all three of the divorces?

00:29:30.200 All three of them, yes.

00:29:30.900 And have you been proposed to since?

00:29:35.080 Yes.

00:29:35.920 But are you, did you like the guys, but you just already been through it, and you didn't

00:29:40.160 want to get married again?

00:29:41.700 At the time, well, my last engagement that I had, I, he wanted to, I wanted to, but it

00:29:48.220 just, it was like bad timing.

00:29:50.720 He was going through some legal crap, and he wanted me to move where he was, and he actually

00:29:57.400 got in trouble where I was living.

00:29:59.320 So we were like, okay, well, if you're going to have to do any kind of jail time, why would

00:30:03.020 I want to move up there if I'm going to have to come and visit you here?

00:30:06.040 So I decided, okay, I'm done.

00:30:08.280 Just take your ring back, and you can just go your own way. 0.94

00:30:11.180 And you said you were a sex worker, was it just the dancing you were doing? 0.79

00:30:15.480 Just dancing.

00:30:16.180 No escorting?

00:30:16.680 No escorting, just dancing.

00:30:18.040 You currently do OnlyFans, though, is that right?

00:30:19.700 Right, okay.

00:30:21.080 And you said you had one kid that was, she's 15, and it was from a one-night stand, you

00:30:29.960 said, or a friend with benefits?

00:30:30.440 No, we were friends with benefits, yeah.

00:30:32.560 Yeah, he actually, he owns a...

00:30:33.980 Is he in the picture at all?

00:30:35.040 No, no.

00:30:36.180 Does he pay child support?

00:30:37.220 Yes.

00:30:38.020 How much, just out of curiosity, how much does he pay in child support?

00:30:40.680 Close to about $600 a month.

00:30:42.660 $600 a month. 0.97

00:30:43.120 And of course, he bitches about that, too. 0.90

00:30:45.620 Okay, and for your marriages, did you receive any alimony? 0.94

00:30:49.700 Any from any of them?

00:30:50.440 No.

00:30:50.800 No, because they were pretty short, so I don't think...

00:30:52.460 Well, that, and I didn't even ask for it, because I didn't want something to be tied

00:30:56.360 to, either.

00:30:56.940 Right.

00:30:57.340 And I even gave back my rings and everything to him, too.

00:30:59.760 Okay. 1.00

00:30:59.800 I wasn't even going to hold on to that shit. 1.00

00:31:01.400 There you go. 1.00

00:31:01.940 Go.

00:31:02.240 Just take it.

00:31:02.580 All right.

00:31:02.680 And you said you've been single for two and a half years?

00:31:07.300 No guys in the picture?

00:31:08.780 Okay.

00:31:09.820 No.

00:31:10.360 All right.

00:31:11.320 What about you?

00:31:13.140 I'm single.

00:31:14.520 All right.

00:31:15.140 Longest relationship, four years.

00:31:18.100 Four years, okay.

00:31:19.100 With my son's dad.

00:31:20.700 We kind of, that's been 10 years.

00:31:23.940 10 years you've been with him?

00:31:26.400 Like, no, 10 years ago, I met him.

00:31:28.660 Okay.

00:31:29.220 How old, you have one kid?

00:31:30.460 Yeah.

00:31:30.740 How old's your kid?

00:31:31.720 Almost eight.

00:31:32.620 Almost eight.

00:31:33.180 How long have you been single?

00:31:37.020 Six.

00:31:37.820 Six years?

00:31:38.460 Yeah.

00:31:39.660 Was that when, that was the end of your four-year relationship with the father of your son?

00:31:47.660 Correct.

00:31:48.560 Who broke up with who?

00:31:52.640 I mean, I was done.

00:31:55.800 I tried to get rid of him.

00:31:57.500 He wouldn't leave.

00:31:58.200 And then, you know, we'd fight a lot.

00:32:00.880 So, um, I had to get a restraining order for him to get out.

00:32:07.100 And, uh, it's just kind of spiral.

00:32:08.820 When you say he wouldn't leave, were you guys living together?

00:32:11.220 Yes.

00:32:12.120 Was it a, like, you guys were sharing?

00:32:14.580 We were actually living at my mom's house.

00:32:17.640 He, and he wouldn't leave.

00:32:19.620 Yeah.

00:32:20.140 It was great.

00:32:21.300 Great time.

00:32:21.580 So you had to evict him or?

00:32:23.580 Excuse me?

00:32:24.260 You had to get him evicted because he was legally a tenant.

00:32:26.820 Correct.

00:32:27.780 Well, yeah, correct.

00:32:28.880 Mm-hmm.

00:32:29.380 But he was.

00:32:31.920 He was lazy?

00:32:35.160 Well.

00:32:36.040 I don't want to say anything bad about my son's dad.

00:32:38.120 That's fine.

00:32:38.720 Yet.

00:32:39.500 Yet.

00:32:39.960 Okay.

00:32:40.280 Give me a couple hours.

00:32:41.520 So for the past six years, though, have you dated at all?

00:32:45.380 Like a three-month nothing, but honestly, no.

00:32:49.360 Not really.

00:32:49.700 Okay.

00:32:50.300 Roster's dry.

00:32:51.300 Roster's dry.

00:32:51.940 Yeah.

00:32:52.560 I'm, my hoe phase is done. 0.98

00:32:54.480 The hoe phase is done. 1.00

00:32:56.080 Hoe phase has been done for a while. 0.99

00:32:57.480 But there was a hoe phase. 0.99

00:32:58.680 Of course.

00:32:59.200 Yes.

00:33:00.180 Going back this way.

00:33:01.520 All girls have a hoe phase. 1.00

00:33:02.300 Was there a hoe phase? 0.99

00:33:02.720 Yes, I worked in a club.

00:33:05.040 Big time.

00:33:05.600 Yes, I did a hoe phase. 0.97

00:33:06.920 Hoe phase? 1.00

00:33:07.980 Any girl who says they don't have a hoe phase is a liar. 1.00

00:33:11.080 You're a liar. 1.00

00:33:11.760 Right, Jazz? 0.99

00:33:12.180 I wasn't an Uber, but I was a model.

00:33:14.100 No, I agree.

00:33:15.120 Have you had a hoe phase, Jazz? 1.00

00:33:16.360 Um, not, how are we defining hoe? 0.85

00:33:19.500 Exactly.

00:33:20.400 A strumpet.

00:33:21.740 I don't know that either.

00:33:22.380 Wait, what is a strumpet?

00:33:23.200 A strumpet.

00:33:24.120 I've had moments where I've gone on, like, mini dates.

00:33:27.720 Like, first dates.

00:33:28.620 That can be a hoe phase. 1.00

00:33:29.360 Yeah, that's, like, the furthest my fingers.

00:33:31.700 Is that a nice way of saying tramp?

00:33:33.700 Whatever your sense of hoe phase is, like, describe the hoe phase. 0.97

00:33:37.000 So, you're, like, you were just going on, like, three dates a week, four dates a week, five

00:33:42.560 dates a week?

00:33:43.020 Oh, that's a bit much.

00:33:44.320 I'd say, like, three a month.

00:33:47.340 Okay.

00:33:47.520 Just, like, whenever the opportunity came, like, sure, I'll go on a date.

00:33:50.800 And then I just, one of us wasn't interested.

00:33:54.680 So, that would be your hoe phase? 1.00

00:33:56.080 Yeah.

00:33:56.240 Like, three dates?

00:33:56.880 Okay.

00:33:57.540 And wait, you said you were involved in, you were a dancer?

00:34:00.980 I did, yeah.

00:34:02.620 And then you said other things, too?

00:34:04.960 Escorting?

00:34:05.900 No, she didn't do that. 0.99

00:34:06.880 No, not technically escorting.

00:34:08.780 Just.

00:34:08.880 What was the, it seemed like you're saying or suggesting there was.

00:34:12.060 Like, just meeting people at the club and doing extra things.

00:34:18.040 Not really, I don't know.

00:34:19.760 At the strip club?

00:34:21.520 Uh-huh.

00:34:23.320 In the strip club?

00:34:25.160 Was it the champagne room or whatever?

00:34:26.780 No.

00:34:27.460 The champagne room.

00:34:28.440 What do you mean, the 80s?

00:34:29.080 You know, what happens in the champagne room stays in the champagne room.

00:34:31.980 But sometimes, like, couples would come up and want me to go hang out with them.

00:34:36.920 Oh, like a unicorn?

00:34:38.120 Like, dorkies that never, I don't know.

00:34:41.260 I don't know.

00:34:41.540 And would they pay you for that?

00:34:42.460 Of course.

00:34:43.340 How much?

00:34:43.580 And I wouldn't even have to do stuff.

00:34:46.480 I would, like, direct them to do things.

00:34:48.240 You'd be in the cuck chair, like, watching, crying in the corner?

00:34:51.100 Yeah.

00:34:51.620 Yeah, one time, I'm like, let's light some candles.

00:34:54.400 Let's, like, make it cute.

00:34:55.800 And, like, the whole room lit up. 1.00

00:34:57.960 What the fuck? 0.99

00:34:58.260 It was on fire. 1.00

00:34:59.500 Exactly.

00:34:59.860 I know.

00:35:00.720 I was like, okay, we're done.

00:35:02.020 Like, I got to go.

00:35:02.960 Things are on fire.

00:35:04.220 All right.

00:35:04.820 That's cool.

00:35:05.200 I ran out of there.

00:35:05.720 Yeah.

00:35:06.100 It was fun.

00:35:06.880 All right.

00:35:07.280 Good times.

00:35:08.220 Yeah.

00:35:09.060 Any sugar daddy type stuff?

00:35:11.760 Technically, yeah.

00:35:12.820 Technically, yeah.

00:35:13.540 Yeah.

00:35:13.740 But you were, like, you did engage in, like, sexual activity for money?

00:35:20.800 Technically, yeah.

00:35:22.660 I mean, yes.

00:35:22.940 More explaining to me, too.

00:35:25.440 Like, would you go home with guys after the club?

00:35:26.940 Guys would come to the club, and then they want, you know, extra things.

00:35:31.840 A blowie? 1.00

00:35:32.920 Or dates, or just take me to Vegas, or whatever.

00:35:36.280 That's what it's called, right?

00:35:37.880 Maybe an HJ.

00:35:39.200 I don't know.

00:35:39.700 That's such a cute way to say that.

00:35:41.720 A blowie. 1.00

00:35:42.200 You want a blowie? 0.99

00:35:42.980 An HJ? 0.98

00:35:44.520 Do you guys want a blowie?

00:35:45.680 Yeah, an HJ. 0.95

00:35:46.360 HJ is crazy. 0.64

00:35:47.600 I'd try to avoid all the way. 0.56

00:35:51.200 How much is an HJ? 0.89

00:35:52.020 Who gives out handjobs? 1.00

00:35:53.380 Well, that's, here's the, I've said this on the-

00:35:55.220 Who doesn't?

00:35:55.320 I've never sold a handjob.

00:35:57.020 That's crazy.

00:35:57.960 Well, I agree with you.

00:35:58.660 That's like for a face.

00:36:00.280 I would, like, here's the thing.

00:36:01.980 I could be with the most beautiful girl, and she's like, look, I like you, Brian, but I'm not

00:36:07.700 ready yet. 1.00

00:36:08.280 I'll give you a handjob. 1.00

00:36:09.480 I'd be like, I'm good. 1.00

00:36:11.520 I'd rather just turn down the handjob. 0.72

00:36:13.500 That's different. 0.97

00:36:13.960 You're not like a hoe. 1.00

00:36:15.900 You're not a- 0.99

00:36:16.420 I don't want a handjob. 0.98

00:36:17.940 It's offering it, though. 0.99

00:36:18.960 Wait, can I ask why you don't want a handjob? 0.96

00:36:21.460 Because it's, I don't know as a girl, like, why? 0.97

00:36:24.080 You stop off with the HJ, then you work your way up.

00:36:27.440 It's just not, like, what?

00:36:29.900 You don't like the handies?

00:36:31.800 Yeah, but you're not like-

00:36:32.620 On its own?

00:36:33.400 Like, if you were really into them, though.

00:36:34.680 Probably get laid enough to where you don't need an HJ.

00:36:36.300 She could be the most beautiful woman in the world.

00:36:39.220 I think it means he is into her.

00:36:41.260 And, like, I think that's cool.

00:36:42.460 Like, that reflects well on you.

00:36:44.160 And I think, no, he wants more.

00:36:46.120 Right, but he's saying if we're not going to be intimate, I don't need you to, like, do me this thing.

00:36:51.480 Like, it's okay.

00:36:52.480 It means that you like her, you respect her, and you want to have a good experience, maybe.

00:36:56.440 He disagrees.

00:36:57.100 Right, you're not a dirty man.

00:36:58.680 No, you want to get an attorney.

00:37:00.260 You know what?

00:37:01.020 She makes a great point. 0.84

00:37:02.360 And I think a guy who wants a handjob, she's my attorney. 1.00

00:37:05.580 No, but also, the guy who wants a handjob, he just wants to nut. 0.99

00:37:09.180 He doesn't care about the girl. 1.00

00:37:10.300 And he's like, okay, give me a handjob, then. 0.99

00:37:12.020 That's not about your- 0.99

00:37:13.160 Right, but that's what they want.

00:37:14.100 That's what they go there for, and that's what you offer.

00:37:15.860 Right, so I'm saying Brian wants the full three-course center.

00:37:18.860 There's a place in time for him.

00:37:19.880 There's nothing wrong with that.

00:37:20.860 I just think it's cool that you want the connection and not the handjob.

00:37:24.900 No, Carla, thank you very much for the endorsement.

00:37:28.220 That's great framing.

00:37:29.360 I love the framing on that.

00:37:31.000 Sponsored by whatever.

00:37:32.760 The framing.

00:37:33.500 It's inaccurate.

00:37:33.820 I think it's more like being given a two-cent tip.

00:37:37.220 You're not like a guy that's going to go search for an HJ.

00:37:40.540 You're actually probably a decent person. 1.00

00:37:43.100 Hey, bitch, give me a- 1.00

00:37:43.880 Yeah, I agree. 1.00

00:37:44.400 You know what I mean?

00:37:45.140 I guess.

00:37:46.160 Guys that do those things and search for it.

00:37:48.900 I think you guys are being a little too charitable here.

00:37:51.400 Am I?

00:37:52.060 You guys are being a little charitable.

00:37:53.160 I'm just giving out HJs. 1.00

00:37:54.660 Does Brian want HJs all day? 0.99

00:37:56.880 It's not because I'm like this wholesome guy.

00:37:58.760 It's just like-

00:37:59.980 You are.

00:38:01.280 Well, okay, a little bit, but like a-

00:38:04.340 Yo, chat.

00:38:05.440 Yeah.

00:38:06.200 Have a chat. 0.98

00:38:06.520 If all that's on the table is a handjob, would you rather just not get the handjob? 0.99

00:38:12.480 I'd rather just not get the handjob. 0.98

00:38:13.700 No, I think it's a self-report.

00:38:15.780 Self-report.

00:38:16.420 Wait, how's that the self-report?

00:38:17.220 How much would you charge that into the girl? 1.00

00:38:19.020 No, I'm telling you.

00:38:20.520 She could be-

00:38:21.520 I hear you.

00:38:22.460 I'm saying I think it's a self-report.

00:38:24.000 She could be.

00:38:24.760 She could be like, if I don't give you one, it's over.

00:38:27.840 I'm like, good.

00:38:29.680 I don't want one.

00:38:30.800 Goodbye.

00:38:31.900 So why don't you want one, though?

00:38:34.180 Like, why would you rather just not have it?

00:38:37.020 It's just-

00:38:38.180 What if she gets super free?

00:38:40.720 Or maybe she gets too comfortable with just doing just that and not anything else.

00:38:44.180 It doesn't do anything for me, you know?

00:38:45.720 Yeah, I guess if you're just not into that.

00:38:47.260 Say less, I get you.

00:38:48.080 You're not doing it right.

00:38:50.400 No, it's just-

00:38:51.620 Anyways, let me-

00:38:52.300 What is the chat saying?

00:38:53.320 What's the chat saying?

00:38:53.820 Yeah, I'm so curious.

00:38:55.140 I want to see if they agree with me now.

00:38:55.920 How can we read their comments?

00:38:57.640 Mary, you can put on-

00:38:58.560 Hit the live.

00:38:59.300 Do you see where-

00:38:59.780 Or not go-

00:39:00.340 Don't hit go live, but you see next to starred where it says live?

00:39:04.620 Streamlabs?

00:39:05.600 Streamyard?

00:39:07.700 Streamyard?

00:39:08.560 It's-

00:39:08.820 You know where the pull-ups-

00:39:10.540 Where you pull up the chats right here?

00:39:13.780 No, just-

00:39:14.440 Oh, man, I got to pull-

00:39:15.160 Okay.

00:39:15.640 Yeah, hit that.

00:39:20.160 People are saying pass.

00:39:21.900 Pass.

00:39:22.400 No H-J. 1.00

00:39:23.460 No, no, no.

00:39:23.960 They know what H-Js. 1.00

00:39:25.440 No.

00:39:26.680 Yeah, chat.

00:39:27.780 Get that head. 0.97

00:39:28.640 For me, fine.

00:39:29.260 Oh, that's a good point.

00:39:30.920 What did he say?

00:39:31.500 Someone said, no one's giving me an H-J better than I'm doing it myself.

00:39:35.620 Yeah.

00:39:35.940 Period.

00:39:36.320 We should have said that.

00:39:36.840 Mm-hmm.

00:39:37.540 That's the real reason.

00:39:38.480 Yeah, that's actually it.

00:39:40.320 I guess.

00:39:40.620 That's a good point. 0.98

00:39:41.200 You guys have porn, you know? 0.99

00:39:42.780 Guys can go jack off to somebody. 1.00

00:39:44.980 The chat agrees with me.

00:39:46.340 All right.

00:39:46.560 Well, someone also said, Brian, stop talking.

00:39:48.580 They did say that.

00:39:50.440 Don't listen to that.

00:39:51.340 Keep talking about it.

00:39:52.940 Although, Jazz, you should see what they've been saying, don't you?

00:39:56.600 Okay.

00:39:57.100 I need to start pulling up these chats.

00:39:59.140 One sec.

00:40:00.000 TTSs?

00:40:01.020 One sec.

00:40:03.700 Hold on.

00:40:05.280 Actually, where were we here?

00:40:08.120 Oh.

00:40:08.640 Oh, relationship status.

00:40:10.340 Okay.

00:40:10.700 Go ahead.

00:40:11.440 Relationship status, please.

00:40:12.160 I am happily married.

00:40:14.140 Oh.

00:40:14.700 All right.

00:40:15.080 How long have you been married for?

00:40:16.400 A little over a year.

00:40:17.800 And how long were you guys dating before you got married?

00:40:20.480 A year.

00:40:22.200 Okay.

00:40:23.160 And are you guys like high school sweethearts, or how did you guys meet?

00:40:26.040 No.

00:40:26.520 I mean, he was 20, and I was 17 when we met, so I was like senior in high school.

00:40:32.520 But we grew up in the same hometown.

00:40:35.020 Okay.

00:40:35.400 Gotcha.

00:40:36.300 And are you guys any kids or no?

00:40:39.360 Not yet.

00:40:40.300 Are you holding off on that a little bit, or do you have a plan for when you guys would

00:40:44.040 like to start?

00:40:44.640 I think probably within, like, one to two years.

00:40:48.360 So, I would like to have kids young.

00:40:50.040 Okay.

00:40:50.840 All right.

00:40:51.580 Can I ask a question?

00:40:52.320 He met you when he was 20 and you were 17.

00:40:54.600 Yeah.

00:40:55.000 It's not illegal in Florida.

00:40:56.280 You also have parental consent.

00:40:58.280 Hmm.

00:40:59.740 It's three years.

00:41:00.780 That's, like, nothing.

00:41:02.900 You're right.

00:41:03.600 You're right.

00:41:05.080 Was he in college?

00:41:06.060 I was 17 when I got married.

00:41:06.820 No.

00:41:07.100 We both didn't go to school.

00:41:08.300 Yeah.

00:41:08.440 That makes more sense.

00:41:09.600 Like, if they're not in college, similar stage of life.

00:41:11.880 Sure.

00:41:12.180 I feel like in the South, that's kind of common.

00:41:13.960 Oh, really?

00:41:14.980 Yeah.

00:41:15.500 It's really common in the South.

00:41:16.920 Oh, okay.

00:41:17.940 Interesting.

00:41:18.660 Okay.

00:41:20.460 All right.

00:41:21.160 And let's see.

00:41:23.120 Is this your longest relationship?

00:41:25.100 Yes.

00:41:25.600 Got it.

00:41:26.080 Okay.

00:41:27.180 All right.

00:41:28.880 What about you?

00:41:29.740 I'm currently in a relationship.

00:41:32.060 It's been a year.

00:41:33.440 And my longest relationship was 13 years.

00:41:36.440 All right.

00:41:37.000 Were you married?

00:41:38.740 I was.

00:41:40.080 Is it only marriage or other marriages?

00:41:42.840 Only marriage.

00:41:43.380 One marriage to the 13-year guy, I'm assuming.

00:41:46.780 And how long?

00:41:48.160 You were together 13 years total or married for 13 years?

00:41:51.720 Together.

00:41:52.380 13 years.

00:41:52.720 How long were you married?

00:41:53.440 Nine years.

00:41:54.040 Nine years.

00:41:55.020 Kids?

00:41:55.880 Yes.

00:41:56.340 How many kids?

00:41:57.000 I have a 22-year-old and an 11-year-old.

00:42:00.920 All right.

00:42:01.860 The 22-year-old, is that from your marriage?

00:42:04.160 No.

00:42:05.100 Okay.

00:42:05.700 I was in a five-year relationship when I was starting at 19, 19 to 24.

00:42:10.960 And it didn't work out, obviously.

00:42:12.860 So you got pregnant at 22, 23? 1.00

00:42:16.220 22.

00:42:16.860 22.

00:42:17.460 And that was with the five-year relationship?

00:42:19.220 Mm-hmm.

00:42:20.160 All right.

00:42:20.800 And then you said you had an 11-year-old.

00:42:24.020 Was that in your marriage?

00:42:25.320 Yes.

00:42:26.320 Got it.

00:42:26.740 Okay.

00:42:26.980 And then the, hold on, getting the timeline here.

00:42:33.520 So five-year, you have a kid from the five-year relationship when you were a bit younger.

00:42:39.660 Did he pay child support?

00:42:41.440 He did.

00:42:42.020 Okay.

00:42:42.420 You guys went to court or was it just kind of informally?

00:42:45.740 Through mediation.

00:42:46.560 Through mediation.

00:42:47.400 Okay.

00:42:48.100 And then how much was he paying?

00:42:50.480 $500 a month.

00:42:51.920 From the get-go or did it like increase over time?

00:42:54.960 No, it just remained the same.

00:42:56.220 Just remained?

00:42:56.980 Yeah, it just remained the same.

00:42:59.580 And primarily, my son lived with me.

00:43:01.480 All right.

00:43:02.780 So you had full custody of your?

00:43:05.900 For the most part.

00:43:07.180 He saw his dad every other weekend and on Wednesdays.

00:43:11.800 And then he got to a certain age, and he did not want to go to his dad's anymore.

00:43:16.260 So he was with me.

00:43:18.100 And then your 11-year-old, same sort of situation?

00:43:23.660 Do you have shared custody?

00:43:25.100 We do, yes.

00:43:26.100 50-50?

00:43:27.380 Yes.

00:43:27.960 And we've not gone through the courts.

00:43:29.360 We just take care of it on our own.

00:43:30.860 And there's no...

00:43:31.560 Does he pay you child support?

00:43:32.880 Do you pay him child support?

00:43:34.020 No.

00:43:34.520 It's no, not necessary.

00:43:36.180 Okay.

00:43:36.720 And what was the other question?

00:43:39.340 Oh, your marriage, does he pay you alimony?

00:43:41.480 No.

00:43:41.960 Okay.

00:43:42.480 Nor would I ask for it.

00:43:43.300 Got it.

00:43:44.340 Who initiated the divorce? 0.97

00:43:48.660 I did, essentially.

00:43:50.420 Okay.

00:43:50.920 And your five-year relationship, who initiated the breakup, I guess?

00:43:54.880 It was mutual.

00:43:55.860 Mutual.

00:43:56.620 And then, so you had the 13-year relationship, the five-year relationship, any other long relationships,

00:44:01.140 or was that it?

00:44:02.480 That's it.

00:44:03.140 Okay.

00:44:03.460 And you've currently been seeing a guy for one year.

00:44:05.440 Mm-hmm.

00:44:06.080 All right.

00:44:06.860 And do you guys live together?

00:44:08.280 We do not.

00:44:09.040 Do not.

00:44:09.420 Okay.

00:44:10.000 How's that going?

00:44:11.340 It's going well.

00:44:12.220 Going well?

00:44:12.700 Okay.

00:44:13.100 Cool.

00:44:15.020 And what about you?

00:44:18.700 Happily married.

00:44:20.060 Okay.

00:44:21.000 How long have you been married for?

00:44:22.980 Seven years.

00:44:23.980 Seven years.

00:44:25.700 First marriage?

00:44:27.180 Second.

00:44:27.500 Second marriage.

00:44:28.660 How long was your first marriage?

00:44:30.960 My first marriage was eight years.

00:44:34.400 Was it?

00:44:35.700 Was that your longest relationship?

00:44:39.800 No, I would say the current one is the longest relationship because we've been together now

00:44:43.820 for about 11 years.

00:44:45.820 11 years.

00:44:46.620 The other one, though, you said was seven years or eight years?

00:44:50.200 We were married for eight.

00:44:50.620 We were together for 10.

00:44:51.900 10 years.

00:44:52.540 Okay.

00:44:53.280 The first marriage, who initiated the divorce?

00:44:55.960 I did.

00:44:56.600 You did.

00:44:57.080 Okay.

00:44:57.980 Was there a reason?

00:44:59.340 Irreconcilable differences?

00:45:00.980 Yeah.

00:45:01.540 You know, we just kind of drifted apart.

00:45:03.900 We have-

00:45:04.100 A little closer to the mic, if you can.

00:45:05.300 We have very different personalities and just kind of drifted apart.

00:45:09.140 Okay.

00:45:09.580 Gotcha.

00:45:10.020 So, you initiated it or-

00:45:12.300 I did.

00:45:12.780 You filed for the divorce?

00:45:13.780 Yeah.

00:45:14.740 And any other long relationships that weren't either of these two?

00:45:18.740 Um, they would have had to have been in my 20s.

00:45:25.720 Not as long as these, but maybe like a year or a couple of years or three years at the

00:45:30.420 most, maybe at different points.

00:45:32.600 Yeah.

00:45:33.260 You said you have how many kids?

00:45:35.060 I have one daughter.

00:45:36.220 Is that from your current marriage?

00:45:38.580 From my first marriage.

00:45:40.000 Previous marriage.

00:45:40.720 Got it.

00:45:41.020 How old is she? 0.98

00:45:41.960 17.

00:45:42.480 17.

00:45:43.020 Got it.

00:45:43.420 All right.

00:45:44.880 Uh, from your first marriage, did your ex-husband, uh, does he pay you child support?

00:45:51.780 No.

00:45:52.300 He did for a little while until I told him he didn't have to anymore.

00:45:55.740 Okay.

00:45:56.280 Uh, what's the custody arrangement?

00:45:58.000 Is it-

00:45:58.380 50-50.

00:45:59.060 50-50.

00:45:59.700 He's a great dad.

00:46:00.420 Okay.

00:46:01.800 And, uh, no longer pays you child support?

00:46:03.680 Did he pay you alimony at all?

00:46:05.760 Um, yeah, again, both for a little while until it was no longer needed.

00:46:10.260 Mm.

00:46:11.200 Gotcha.

00:46:11.720 Was he the breadwinner in the relationship?

00:46:14.520 Yeah.

00:46:14.900 When you were dating?

00:46:15.500 Yeah, I was in graduate school and, um, he supported me and we came to our own agreement

00:46:21.160 amicably.

00:46:22.460 And around the time I got licensed and was moving in with my current partner before we got

00:46:28.040 married, I didn't need his money, so I, I told him to stop.

00:46:33.340 Oops.

00:46:33.940 Uh, oh, sorry.

00:46:34.960 Misclicked something here.

00:46:35.940 Okay.

00:46:36.180 God, thank you for sharing.

00:46:37.200 What about you?

00:46:38.260 My boyfriend and I have been dating for almost a year and my longest relationship is two years.

00:46:44.500 All right.

00:46:45.160 And your two-year relationship, who broke up with who?

00:46:47.660 Um, it was, I broke up with him.

00:46:50.880 Okay.

00:46:51.400 Uh, any reason or?

00:46:53.200 Yeah, I found out that he cheated on me.

00:46:56.040 All right.

00:46:56.600 Did you cheat on him at all or no?

00:46:58.200 No, not at all.

00:46:59.740 All right.

00:47:00.260 That's everybody's relationship status.

00:47:02.580 So we're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here in just a moment.

00:47:06.640 Let me see if we have any chats we can pull up.

00:47:08.700 Guys, quick reminder, Reed is 100, TTS is 200.

00:47:11.680 We got a lot of really great notes that we're going to get into, guys.

00:47:14.800 And reminder, Andrew is going to be calling in a little bit later.

00:47:18.440 I'm so scared.

00:47:20.240 Yeah.

00:47:20.640 Be scared.

00:47:21.220 Be terrified.

00:47:22.520 Andrew, I'm scared of you.

00:47:24.100 All right.

00:47:24.580 So, uh, we're going to react.

00:47:27.160 The first thing that we're going to react to, uh, Mary, if you can pull up that article.

00:47:32.780 This was kind of going viral and I thought it was interesting.

00:47:41.560 All right.

00:47:42.180 So here, pause that, pause, pause that video, pause that video. 0.99

00:47:45.920 I don't, I don't know what kind of bullshit they're going. 0.99

00:47:47.460 Okay. 1.00

00:47:47.700 Scroll up.

00:47:48.800 24 year old Australian woman set friend on fire for making misogynistic remark.

00:47:54.160 Scroll down.

00:47:55.180 You guys might've seen this.

00:47:56.960 Uh, that's good.

00:47:57.980 Keep it there.

00:47:58.400 An Australian woman allegedly, allegedly lit her longtime friend on fire because he made a misogynistic remark during a wild night of partying.

00:48:06.460 A court heard earlier this month, Corby, 24, pleaded guilty in court to the arson attack on Jake Loder, 23, saying she felt overwhelmed by his antagonistic behavior throughout the night before she was finally set off by a sexist remark he made during a house party in New South Wales last year.

00:48:27.240 According to the ABC, scroll down a little bit, uh, Loder told her, uh, she should, so the misogynistic, the alleged misogynistic comment was she should stay in the kitchen making scones.

00:48:43.040 If she couldn't handle drinking with the boys, which sent the 24 year old into a rage, the court heard, according to the outlet, she grabbed a gallon of gasoline from the garage and doused, uh, the guy with the flammable substance, waving a lighter at him threateningly. 0.99

00:49:00.660 Go on, do it. 0.99

00:49:02.240 That's a kind of a stupid thing to say. 1.00

00:49:04.180 If it's like these, look, I don't condone, I don't condone violence, but if somebody is like threatening you with a gun, you probably shouldn't say, go shoot me pussy. 1.00

00:49:15.580 Like you probably shouldn't taunt or provoke somebody who's got, you know, who's threatening physical violence. 0.99

00:49:21.640 What are you going to do? 0.98

00:49:22.720 Shoot me. 1.00

00:49:23.840 And then they get, look, you shouldn't do it, but come on. 0.96

00:49:27.020 All right.

00:49:27.680 He was drunk though, and he had consumed nose candy.

00:49:30.900 She confessed.

00:49:31.660 Scroll down.

00:49:32.000 Uh, Wappily then touched him with the lighter, setting him ablaze.

00:49:39.720 Loader sustained burns to 50% of his body and had some of his sweat glands burned off.

00:49:45.300 He was put in a medically induced coma for eight days after the attack, according to a victim impact statement read in court.

00:49:52.040 He required 10 operations and spent 74 days in a burn unit at a Melbourne hospital, according to the statement.

00:49:59.340 Scroll down a bit.

00:50:00.000 Uh, suffered burns, the friend, uh, he can't step outside because of the damage.

00:50:07.720 Uh, she had been, I guess, taking, drinking and taking substances.

00:50:13.800 Uh, the, she claimed she was pushed to the edge due to his misogynistic comments. 0.94

00:50:23.700 Uh, tried to wrestle with her. 1.00

00:50:26.820 The fuck? 1.00

00:50:27.740 Uh, and was being antagonistic throughout the night. 1.00

00:50:31.500 Uh, she feels horrible, remorseful.

00:50:35.120 Scroll down.

00:50:36.620 Uh, all right.

00:50:38.300 Uh, scroll down.

00:50:39.800 I find it very hard to believe the injuries that were caused was from my doing.

00:50:44.880 I mean, you lit the dude on fire.

00:50:48.680 She pleaded guilty to one charge of burning or maiming by using corrosive fluid.

00:50:52.700 So, she's back in court this month for sentencing.

00:50:56.640 So, I want to go around the table on this, get the panel's reaction.

00:50:59.880 So, the allegations here are he was making, throughout the course of the night, various

00:51:04.720 misogynistic comments, get back in the kitchen, something like that.

00:51:09.320 And then, she lit him on fire.

00:51:12.660 Do you think that's, uh, I think that's an appropriate?

00:51:15.660 I think it's a fair response, starting with you, going around the table.

00:51:18.660 Um, I think if he's less misogynistic now, it's probably a net positive.

00:51:23.240 But, if he's not, I'd say it's a bit much.

00:51:28.460 What's a bit much?

00:51:29.440 Extreme for her to light him on fire.

00:51:32.620 Wait, so, just to be clear, a man was, uh, was nearly burned to death.

00:51:38.320 And, uh, I think your knee-jerk initial reaction is, well, if he's a bit less misogynistic.

00:51:43.700 Net positive, though, not that.

00:51:44.780 That, that's the, that's the, what, so when you say net positive in totality.

00:51:50.060 Mm-hmm.

00:51:50.760 So, yeah, what she did was really awful.

00:51:52.320 And, like, he's going to have to suffer for the rest of his life because of it.

00:51:56.060 But, if, like, his casual misogyny is lessened.

00:52:01.680 It's a net positive.

00:52:03.020 Net positive, yeah.

00:52:05.740 What's the math?

00:52:06.680 What's the calculus on it being a net positive?

00:52:08.960 Um, let's say if he just stayed, like, super misogynistic and, like, got his friends together

00:52:15.260 and they were all kind of like that, then they're kind of causing a lot of hell on women. 1.00

00:52:19.540 Mm-hmm.

00:52:19.920 Okay.

00:52:20.480 So, if he's less misogynistic now and he's not getting all his guys together to say things

00:52:26.720 about women, it, you know, it doesn't affect as much. 1.00

00:52:29.220 I see.

00:52:29.640 Okay, so what you're saying is, is that, um, serious bodily.

00:52:34.260 He's like a martyr, if anything.

00:52:36.220 So, what you're saying is serious bodily injuries, so long as within your purview, there's a, uh,

00:52:46.460 wait, just to be clear.

00:52:47.280 I can't even wrap my head around the comment you've just made, but violent crime, not as bad.

00:52:59.560 Or, sorry, uh, violent crime more bad than misogynistic joke.

00:53:05.660 Um, not necessarily.

00:53:07.240 I think it's more nuanced, I'd say.

00:53:08.820 Explain the nuance.

00:53:09.560 Um, because if you're constantly talking bad about women in that way or saying that women,

00:53:16.060 you know, should stick to these sort of roles, it perpetuates in the long term kind of violence

00:53:22.000 against women in general on a grand scale. 0.83

00:53:24.620 But also, um, just to be frank, I was kind of kidding and it is wrong of her to have done that.

00:53:31.840 Well, I'm a bit confused.

00:53:34.420 You just, you just said that there was a nuance.

00:53:37.260 I said, it's wrong that she didn't.

00:53:38.480 Okay.

00:53:39.080 No, no, I'm saying hold on to her.

00:53:40.700 Go ahead.

00:53:41.780 Um, yeah, I just think in this specific situation, I'm not saying everyone should light, uh, men

00:53:47.540 on fire because that would make the world better.

00:53:50.940 I'm just saying in this instance, if it happened to make him less misogynistic, it's probably

00:53:55.800 a net positive.

00:53:57.180 Do you know what that is?

00:53:57.680 But I'm not encouraging violence against men.

00:54:00.120 Right.

00:54:00.340 So what you're saying is, yes, it was bad that he got lit on fire.

00:54:05.340 What she did was wrong.

00:54:06.660 But if, if the outcome is that he's now less allegedly misogynistic, that, that it was

00:54:16.160 actually worth it that she burned him.

00:54:18.260 Um, because in order for your statement to be true, that it's a net positive, it would

00:54:21.980 have to indicate that it's, it's worth it.

00:54:24.940 Right.

00:54:25.160 If it's a net positive.

00:54:27.380 Yeah. 1.00

00:54:27.780 Would you kill Hitler, baby, baby Hitler? 1.00

00:54:30.660 Excuse me. 1.00

00:54:30.980 Too deep of a question. 1.00

00:54:31.940 If you could time travel back in time, would you kill a baby Hitler? 0.99

00:54:37.300 Because it would be a net positive, right? 0.99

00:54:39.080 In your worldview.

00:54:40.100 Yeah.

00:54:40.940 So you, I don't have a definite answer on that, but I do denounce the genocide of the

00:54:47.240 Jewish people.

00:54:49.040 Okay.

00:54:49.400 That's not really answering my question though.

00:54:51.020 So the hypothetical, I don't know. 0.80

00:54:52.560 Cause what would happen if I killed baby Hitler and then like Mussolini did something even 0.98

00:54:57.480 more extreme and crazy. 0.99

00:54:58.760 Like, I don't know. 0.87

00:54:59.500 The Italian.

00:55:00.040 Like, I don't know the butterfly effect.

00:55:01.160 Yeah.

00:55:01.360 I don't know the butterfly effect, but I, I would say if the only difference there is

00:55:05.340 that Hitler didn't exist and then like the concentration camps didn't happen.

00:55:09.320 So what's your, you, you did, I don't know if you're like walking back your position a

00:55:14.000 little bit doing a mod in Bailey, but you said that you're joking, please be more specific

00:55:19.620 though, because you're saying there's nuance to the situation.

00:55:22.180 So again, is her act justified because of the net positive, assuming the net pot, assuming

00:55:29.560 he's going to be less misogynistic now, is it justified to some degree?

00:55:35.480 I'd say no violence is not ever justifiable.

00:55:39.320 But you did say that the net positive.

00:55:40.920 Well, yeah, if we're talking about long-term effects on like what potentially his statements

00:55:45.780 and actions could have caused against multitudes of women, like more than just one person. 1.00

00:55:51.380 And is this your subjective opinion or like you think objectively?

00:55:54.780 Obviously, um, if it was objective, I think that would mean that if we just burned everyone

00:56:00.540 who said that, then like the world would be better, but I don't necessarily think that's

00:56:04.480 the case.

00:56:05.400 Hmm.

00:56:05.800 Okay.

00:56:06.040 And, uh, so what if, what if, uh, I had a position that feminist rhetoric is damaging 1.00

00:56:14.900 and there was, there was a, uh, a, uh, a movement to basically like light on fire every single

00:56:23.760 feminist.

00:56:24.100 And if I could prove to you, like if I could, uh, demonstrate that there would just, it would

00:56:30.660 clearly be a net positive on society to burn feminists, you would then be in favor of that 1.00

00:56:37.960 too.

00:56:41.840 Um, if that were the case and you could prove that, then I guess technically sure.

00:56:46.800 And like, sure.

00:56:49.740 Okay.

00:56:50.140 So as long as it's a net positive.

00:56:52.440 But I'm anti-violence and I don't think this on a grand scale would actually.

00:56:57.240 Well, you yourself wouldn't, uh, perform or participate in said violence, but if like

00:57:04.080 other people could.

00:57:06.040 Yeah.

00:57:06.360 I still don't agree.

00:57:07.580 Yeah.

00:57:07.720 And I, yeah, I don't want anyone to be lit on fire.

00:57:10.060 I was just saying.

00:57:12.420 Okay.

00:57:12.780 It's potentially less harmful what she did compared to what potentially, but this is all

00:57:18.000 just.

00:57:18.220 Sure.

00:57:18.680 Let me, while I ask you this, so like, so you're, you're a feminist, right? 1.00

00:57:21.920 Um, sure.

00:57:23.080 If you want to classify it that way.

00:57:24.400 Well, what do you, are you not a feminist? 1.00

00:57:26.440 Um, probably not in your definition.

00:57:29.440 I care for like gender liberation.

00:57:31.840 So gender, what's that? 0.71

00:57:33.720 Um, just equality and equity for everyone, no matter your gender identity.

00:57:40.480 So you think feminism is not about, uh, gender equality? 1.00

00:57:44.180 Well, feminism historically, if we are talking about like first wave, second wave, third wave

00:57:48.400 had, um, super specific, um, like reason and outcome, like gaining the right to vote

00:57:56.800 and owning banks and property and stuff like that, or their own bank account.

00:58:01.120 Um, I think now we're in a different situation where we have, in a lot of ways, equal rights

00:58:08.200 legally, but I think socially women and men suffer in the structure that we have right

00:58:14.900 now.

00:58:15.200 So I'm pro gender liberation.

00:58:16.860 So for everyone.

00:58:18.760 Okay.

00:58:19.080 I think some people, and what do you think about, uh, are you in favor of deconstructing

00:58:24.500 or dismantling the patriarchy?

00:58:27.020 Um, yes.

00:58:28.340 Okay.

00:58:28.980 All right.

00:58:29.360 I would consider you a feminist then. 1.00

00:58:30.900 Um, so, oh, I had a good follow-up question on this.

00:58:35.940 Um, shoot, it's evading me though.

00:58:38.940 I'm going to think about it.

00:58:39.980 We'll come back to you.

00:58:40.820 Your reaction to the, that article.

00:58:43.780 Um, I don't like violence.

00:58:46.300 I hate that.

00:58:47.400 If she wanted to get back at him, she should have gnomed his house. 1.00

00:58:51.480 She should have what? 0.81

00:58:52.460 Gnomed his house or sent like Jehovah's Witnesses. 1.00

00:58:54.760 Oh, okay.

00:58:55.080 Or like, um, forked it, um, prank called.

00:59:00.400 Okay.

00:59:01.080 Got it.

00:59:01.660 Oh, I, I recall going back to you really quick and then I'll let the rest of the panel

00:59:05.020 weigh in on the thing.

00:59:05.820 Um, so going back to you, uh, it sounded like, and this is perhaps going back to your, your

00:59:12.540 argument about how, uh, net positive, right?

00:59:16.340 Um, so probably this is within the feminist purview. 1.00

00:59:19.920 Uh, you would probably, you might agree with the following statement, like, uh, women are 1.00

00:59:26.240 a victim of violent crime at men's hands.

00:59:28.980 This is especially prevalent in like SA statistics, um, and, uh, other sort of forms of like sexual

00:59:37.260 violence and just, uh, inter-partner violence in relationships, right?

00:59:41.840 Um, would you say it would be a net positive?

00:59:44.660 So for example, you could probably get rid of most of this, uh, at least within your worldview

00:59:49.460 if you just got rid of men entirely, would that then be a net positive to just get rid 0.74

00:59:53.320 of all men?

00:59:53.980 Um, no, I mean, technically sure.

00:59:56.780 If all the men weren't there, then who's purpose, who's doing the violent crimes and acts.

01:00:01.800 Sure.

01:00:02.200 But I think men are just as much of a victim and the structure that we have now.

01:00:06.780 And that causes them to commit the violence, suppressing your emotions from a young age,

01:00:13.320 uh, putting specific roles on men as man of the, man of the house and man up and stuff

01:00:17.500 like that, they tend to act out violently because they can't, um, express their emotions or they

01:00:23.660 don't have a space like women do to where like, we're known as being emotional and like, so 1.00

01:00:28.460 we can kind of have that space together.

01:00:30.160 Not that we're not judged for it, but still we're able to without being emasculated.

01:00:35.560 So, um, although men are the oppressors, it doesn't mean that they themselves aren't,

01:00:42.100 um, victims at the hands of the patriarchy too.

01:00:45.760 So, all right.

01:00:47.120 I might get into some of that stuff a little bit later on in the show, but you said men

01:00:50.680 are oppressors.

01:00:51.920 Yes.

01:00:52.340 And women are what? 1.00

01:00:54.900 Um, the oppressed.

01:00:56.520 So just, just, just so I fully understand, men are, men are oppressors collectively as

01:01:00.560 a group.

01:01:01.300 Okay.

01:01:01.760 And women are oppressed, or oppressed collectively as a group. 0.99

01:01:06.300 Um, yes.

01:01:07.420 Okay.

01:01:07.900 And you're a woman? 1.00

01:01:09.500 Yes.

01:01:10.040 Okay.

01:01:10.300 Are you oppressed?

01:01:10.880 Yes, we live under a patriarchy, so sure.

01:01:15.220 But how, how specifically are you oppressed?

01:01:17.620 Um, I think the main reason, the main ways that I see it in my daily life is like the

01:01:22.860 hyper-sexualization of women.

01:01:25.020 Men aren't sexualized in such a way.

01:01:26.880 And then the commodification of that sexualization.

01:01:29.540 So, Korn and OnlyFans, and it's seen as kind of like women empowerment, but I think, um, it's

01:01:38.400 just teetering a dangerous line of, um, just like becoming that role of women in society. 1.00

01:01:48.080 Would you say the hyper-sexualization of women, and you, you said this applies to you

01:01:52.800 yourself, is this systemic or is this on an individual level?

01:01:56.580 Um, I think it's, uh, systemic.

01:01:59.380 The existence of Korn and OnlyFans affects every woman, no matter if they participate 0.97

01:02:04.780 in that activity or not.

01:02:06.180 But wouldn't these industries also systemically impact men?

01:02:11.020 In what ways?

01:02:12.160 Well, you said, uh, OnlyFans, Korn, they systemically impact women. 1.00

01:02:17.560 Uh-huh.

01:02:17.980 But then, I would argue, they systemically also would impact men.

01:02:21.620 I think so, too.

01:02:22.420 So, then men are oppressed systemically on the, because of OnlyFans?

01:02:26.740 Yes.

01:02:27.100 I'm not saying, men have the ability to be the oppressors.

01:02:30.420 I'm not saying that they aren't also oppressed, um, in their own way as well.

01:02:36.020 Okay.

01:02:36.660 But it's at the hands of themselves, almost, because they have the power to oppress, and

01:02:41.040 they're kind of putting it upon themselves.

01:02:46.280 Uh, can you clarify?

01:02:47.080 Not individually, um, just, um, just kind of the bro-pilled ideology of, like, man up

01:02:54.000 and get in the gym, and this is what women want to see, and it's, like, all kind of,

01:02:57.960 it's, they're not talking to women to see what women really want.

01:03:01.120 They're just discussing amongst other men.

01:03:03.500 Wait, you think going to the gym is?

01:03:05.460 No, I'm just saying this idea of-

01:03:07.200 Why did you mention the gym, though?

01:03:08.640 What does that have to do with-

01:03:09.080 Well, just this, I, because I'm thinking about the internet and how that kind of gym content

01:03:13.560 kind of pushes you into this field of, like, bettering yourself, but then you get into,

01:03:17.220 like, these conservative-

01:03:18.040 Are you against men bettering themselves?

01:03:20.260 No, I'm just saying it's kind of like a rabbit hole that you go into on the internet.

01:03:23.900 Wait, physical fitness is a rabbit hole for right, extremist right-wing propaganda?

01:03:30.040 Yes.

01:03:30.720 Strength training, weightlifting is-

01:03:33.480 A lot of the times, yeah.

01:03:34.840 Is a slippery slope to right-wing propaganda.

01:03:38.540 Yes.

01:03:38.980 Because it's, I mean, think of, like, Andrew Tate, like, he's all about self-betterment

01:03:44.340 and all of those kinds of things, and that's super similar.

01:03:48.100 Do you know that Hitler was also a vegetarian?

01:03:50.660 Do you think, like, vegetarians are also-

01:03:52.300 I'm talking about media as it is now, not simply because you go in the gym and get stronger

01:03:57.240 to better yourself, you become-

01:03:58.700 I'm saying, like, the pipeline on the internet is kind of algorithmically leads you there.

01:04:03.900 Yeah, but just because Andrew Tate advocates for, like, strength training and getting in

01:04:07.860 physical shape, I don't think you can draw from that then, oh, any sort of advocation

01:04:13.260 towards increasing your health or physical strength would indicate that you're, like,

01:04:17.540 going to go down some, like, right-wing extremist pipeline.

01:04:21.060 Yeah, I'm just saying that's mainly what I've witnessed.

01:04:23.680 May I ask a question?

01:04:24.720 Sure.

01:04:25.520 Do you think that your scope is a bit, and, yeah, just a bit narrow-minded?

01:04:32.460 And I'm sorry, like, it's a little awkward.

01:04:33.860 No, that's fine.

01:04:34.360 Nothing against you, but because of social media, right, you know, like, for example,

01:04:39.760 if I only watch the whatever podcast, I may think, you know, all people think in this

01:04:44.400 particular manner, right?

01:04:45.460 Sorry, I wasn't speaking in the microphone.

01:04:47.480 If I'm only seeing Andrew Tate, you know, and my algorithm pops up more stuff like that,

01:04:52.300 right, and I don't agree with that, I might think that all men operate in a certain way, 0.83

01:04:58.440 when in actuality, that's not the case whatsoever, right?

01:05:01.160 And a lot of, I mean, a lot of what I hear you saying is very, very negative towards

01:05:06.220 men, and I happen to think that men are actually pretty incredible, and if you have time to

01:05:11.040 look at all that they really do bring to the table, I think they bring so much more than

01:05:15.640 we do, and, you know, because we are very emotionally minded.

01:05:20.580 We think of me, me, me, and so on and so forth, and I know that's kind of going...

01:05:24.040 Like women, you're saying? 0.61

01:05:25.040 Women, right, and I know it's kind of going away a little bit from what you're saying,

01:05:27.980 but I just think that, you know, if you're seeing particular algorithms, especially with

01:05:32.080 social media, then we have this idea that all men are a certain way, when in actuality,

01:05:36.520 that's not the case.

01:05:37.520 Yeah.

01:05:38.760 I don't think all men are a certain way.

01:05:40.660 I was just drawing a kind of a correlation between men's betterment and improvement and

01:05:47.700 getting in the gym, I see strongly correlated to red pill ideologies online.

01:05:52.700 But what is the problem with...

01:05:55.920 And I don't actually know specifically what red pill ideology is, that like it's basically

01:06:01.620 like the conservative view, would you agree that it's more that route?

01:06:05.760 Yes.

01:06:06.600 And have you taken time to look at what the conservative view actually is when it comes

01:06:11.960 to society as a whole, and how it contributes to our children and the betterment of society?

01:06:18.280 Yes.

01:06:19.580 I just kind of disagree with placing binary roles onto people.

01:06:25.440 I think it's dangerous for society, and I think that's why the suicide rates are exponentially

01:06:30.020 increasing.

01:06:32.000 So I just kind of disagree with the idea that men should act a certain way and women should 1.00

01:06:36.720 act a certain way.

01:06:37.460 And when I see these types of things perpetuated online, I think that's dangerous, especially

01:06:42.080 when it's kind of strung up as self-improvement and betterment, when it's just kind of like

01:06:48.440 this is how a man should act.

01:06:50.200 I just think that's dangerous.

01:06:52.040 I want to let Savannah come in here because Savannah, you describe yourself as feminist 1.00

01:06:58.500 force nightmare.

01:06:59.520 Yeah.

01:07:00.480 You've been listening to what she said.

01:07:02.920 She said, I think, I don't want to mischaracize your argument, but you're saying that the gender

01:07:08.440 roles or perhaps traditional gender roles when it comes to men and women, these are harmful, 0.98

01:07:13.660 can be harmful.

01:07:14.960 Is that a fair recap of your position?

01:07:19.600 Yes, it can be harmful, yeah.

01:07:21.700 Your thoughts on that?

01:07:22.600 So I would agree with you that I think most men that weightlift are conservative, and I

01:07:26.580 think that there's a reason that most men that weightlift are conservative.

01:07:31.240 Generally speaking, I think conservatives take better care of themselves.

01:07:34.340 I've never really seen a liberal with a ton of muscle. 0.95

01:07:36.400 I think that they're mostly skinny, weak men.

01:07:39.240 There is that stigma, right?

01:07:40.540 But the conservative movement, especially with Make America Healthy Again, has pushed

01:07:44.940 that, of course, because our side actually wants people to weightlift, to eat healthier,

01:07:50.080 to stop taking medicine, and the liberal side doesn't want that.

01:07:53.740 So I think that that's not a bad thing for men to be conservative and manly and masculine

01:08:00.140 and weightlift.

01:08:01.400 Would you disagree?

01:08:02.760 No, I won't disagree.

01:08:03.700 I was just saying there is a correlation there, is all I was saying, which you agreed with.

01:08:07.640 Yeah, I agree with that correlation, actually.

01:08:09.780 I just don't think that it's a bad thing.

01:08:12.300 I actually encourage men to weightlift.

01:08:14.540 I think that they should have muscle on their bodies.

01:08:16.420 I think that they should be able to protect their families and have muscle and strength.

01:08:23.340 Right?

01:08:24.020 Yes.

01:08:24.640 I agree.

01:08:25.640 I don't think just men.

01:08:26.500 And I advocate for health for everyone.

01:08:29.560 I think maybe we see more conservatives with a lot of muscle or into bodybuilding more than

01:08:35.260 maybe people on the left, because the left seems to be more interested in academia.

01:08:41.720 When we look at demographics and universities, they're getting degrees more, and they happen

01:08:46.920 to be Democrats, registered Democrats, rather than Republicans type things.

01:08:52.520 So I think it's just more of a social area, where if you're conservative, this is your

01:08:58.980 crowd you hang out with, you all go to the gym.

01:09:01.100 And I think it stems from that binary role of men being strong and protectors and wanting

01:09:07.600 to take care of, protect the house and things like that.

01:09:10.300 But you think that binary roles are dangerous?

01:09:13.600 If you push them onto everyone.

01:09:14.940 I think if you want to do that in your own time, in your own household, I think if you

01:09:18.980 look at someone who doesn't fit into that binary or gender identity, and you say, this

01:09:23.720 is how you should act, man up, I think that can be dangerous.

01:09:28.300 So you think telling men to weightlift is dangerous?

01:09:31.000 No, not to weightlift.

01:09:32.460 Just man up emotionally, specifically.

01:09:35.980 I would disagree with that.

01:09:37.380 I think that the reason that we don't live in a society with a bunch of masculine and strong

01:09:42.420 men is because we haven't been telling them that for the past, you know, since first

01:09:46.600 wave feminism started.

01:09:48.340 We haven't been telling men to man up and get in the gym and eat healthier and get a

01:09:52.560 job.

01:09:52.820 You think men aren't as manly now is what you're saying?

01:09:55.220 I would, I would like everybody to weigh in on that.

01:09:57.700 I was just clarifying.

01:09:59.300 I agree too, but yeah, I completely agree, but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.

01:10:05.060 Really?

01:10:05.720 Yeah.

01:10:06.220 So I, I'm, I'm assuming you want to get married one day.

01:10:10.140 It's not really on my.

01:10:11.340 If you, okay.

01:10:12.620 Hypothetically speaking, if you were to be, you know, choosing your husband, would you

01:10:16.740 rather have a man who has a lot of muscle and he's masculine and he provides for you 0.59

01:10:20.860 and he takes care of the children and he's the head of the household, or would you rather

01:10:24.600 have somebody who's passive, feminine, weak minded, doesn't really look super masculine

01:10:30.900 and manly?

01:10:32.220 It's all personal preference.

01:10:34.340 I would like a partner who we have equal responsibilities together.

01:10:38.920 If we're talking physique, um, I do go for, honestly, I want to say I want a tall man

01:10:47.300 with muscles, but I tend to not go for that.

01:10:49.180 But yes, like idealistically.

01:10:52.580 Wait, let's explore that a little bit.

01:10:54.200 So you're, you said your own preferences, right?

01:10:56.200 So you said you would like a guy with who's tall and with muscles.

01:11:01.440 Yes.

01:11:02.060 Okay.

01:11:02.340 Have you dated tall men with muscles?

01:11:05.320 Um, maybe once.

01:11:07.060 Just once.

01:11:07.660 Yeah.

01:11:08.000 Okay.

01:11:08.220 The, you were in a, uh, three year or sorry, uh, no three year relationship.

01:11:13.140 How would you describe him physically?

01:11:15.340 Um, he was taller than me and he went to the gym.

01:11:18.920 Right.

01:11:19.220 So your longest relationship, was that the guy who was tall and muscular?

01:11:25.740 Um, no, that wasn't the guy I was referencing.

01:11:27.860 You said he went to the gym though.

01:11:29.340 Yes.

01:11:30.140 Okay.

01:11:31.500 Well, when we say muscular, I mean, was he athletic?

01:11:33.920 Was he in good shape?

01:11:35.960 Athletic?

01:11:36.420 Um, he was getting there.

01:11:37.560 Yeah.

01:11:37.800 He went to the gym regularly.

01:11:39.480 Okay.

01:11:40.520 Um.

01:11:41.060 But also again, this is personal preference.

01:11:42.840 I don't think we should force every man to have to be this protector of the household 0.76

01:11:47.480 and stuff like that.

01:11:48.480 I think we should.

01:11:49.860 I think it leads to the downfall.

01:11:51.400 Like we may not see, or people may not see this in the immediate, but I mean, it's, it's

01:11:55.880 already here.

01:11:56.820 Um, but longterm, um, I mean, you're looking at really the downfall of society in a sense,

01:12:02.060 not just that alone, but, um, and I don't disagree that like women should be able to 0.96

01:12:06.620 do, you know, all of these things as well.

01:12:09.220 Right.

01:12:10.100 Um, however, we've taken women out of the home. 1.00

01:12:15.200 Um, you know, other people are taking care of our kids.

01:12:18.260 I mean, I can tell you firsthand, even though there was another man in the house, I essentially

01:12:22.820 raised my son and I'm an emotional person.

01:12:25.960 And I can tell you without going into detail that I have an emotional 22 year old who is

01:12:30.520 not a man.

01:12:33.360 Um, you know, and we see it all around us.

01:12:37.300 We have, you know, this lack of masculinity and, and it's, I think that it's being, uh,

01:12:42.920 looked at as like, it's a, it's a, it's a bad thing to be masculine and a caretaker and

01:12:49.460 to, you know, even if you want your wife or your significant other to stay at home or things

01:12:53.260 like that.

01:12:54.100 Um, I think when you look as a whole to society, you see why it's necessary, even if like for

01:13:02.060 me, um, that means I might have to give up things I want because there are certain things

01:13:07.000 that I like, like I, you know, didn't, I don't necessarily want to be at home all the time,

01:13:11.440 but if it's for the greater good, then I would forego that.

01:13:14.980 And I think we have to consider the betterment of society as a whole.

01:13:19.400 I believe it's also because like we were talking about earlier, women are naturally more emotional 1.00

01:13:24.840 and then we know that men, they're just built stronger.

01:13:28.600 So it's like men should work on that, like privilege, like that benefit that they already

01:13:34.340 have, that they're stronger so they can take care of the house.

01:13:37.560 Like whenever there's anything that's physical, that's needed.

01:13:40.500 And then women like us, we should be more with the kids, like in tune with them and like 0.93

01:13:46.400 talking about these emotional things and helping them to overcome like certain troubles.

01:13:50.380 You know what I mean?

01:13:51.340 Yeah.

01:13:51.740 Well, Jazz, I think you're going to probably disagree with her.

01:13:53.880 She said that, she said, I'm just repeating it, that women are more emotional. 0.95

01:13:58.860 Do you disagree with that?

01:13:59.700 Um, no, I think women are more emotional. 1.00

01:14:05.780 But isn't, wouldn't that be in contradiction of your, hold on, wouldn't that be in contradiction

01:14:10.840 of your whole like, uh, rejection of the gender binary?

01:14:15.460 Um, so there's a biological and genetic predispositions between the genders. 1.00

01:14:21.040 So there are differences between men and women biologically and genetically.

01:14:25.720 The way we think, our testosterone, our hormones, sure.

01:14:30.300 But I think nurture has a lot more to do, um, with how we turn out rather than our nature.

01:14:36.460 But I think the way that gender exists right now in such binary roles, um, we're perpetuating 0.60

01:14:43.280 our nature.

01:14:44.880 And I think that's dangerous because there are a lot of gender identities that exist with 1.00

01:14:48.980 outside of the binary.

01:14:50.540 So I think it's very limiting to the human experience to say that because we're naturally

01:14:55.320 this way, we should exasperate those differences and not kind of go outside of those binaries

01:15:01.760 because we can, we just choose not to and think it's better.

01:15:05.300 So essentially, do you care like about the traditional gender roles that we have already?

01:15:10.280 Like, does it matter for a man to be like going to the gym and stuff like that?

01:15:15.020 And does it matter for a woman to be at home cooking, taking care of the kids or it's like 1.00

01:15:19.700 the roles can be switched and there's like nothing wrong with that?

01:15:23.360 Um, I, I see a lot of, um, relationships where the man is kind of the stay at home husband

01:15:30.600 and roles are reversed.

01:15:32.220 There's a really popular couple in TikTok, lady with red hair and her husband like cooks

01:15:37.740 for her all day and she pays him to do that.

01:15:39.820 Um, and I think if that works for them, that works for them, but I do want to go back to

01:15:44.360 something you were saying about how you raised your son on your own and you're a woman and

01:15:47.900 we're more emotional.

01:15:48.780 There are statistics to back that up that, um, children that are raised with just the 0.94

01:15:54.660 mom in the house aren't as well-equipped socially in society as if they're raised with just a 1.00

01:15:59.440 single dad.

01:16:00.500 And I don't think that's because women are incapable of giving that. 0.99

01:16:05.140 I think the way society is constructed, women have to rely on men so much that when the man 0.99

01:16:12.080 is missing, then we kind of fail in a sense.

01:16:15.260 And I think that that's wrong.

01:16:16.860 I think we have just as much as an ability, um, to raise somebody, but in the way that we

01:16:22.520 structure gender now in society, it makes us kind of incapable and unable to. 1.00

01:16:27.640 I don't, I don't disagree that we are not capable of raising children on our own.

01:16:33.020 Um, but at, well, I, I'll speak for myself.

01:16:37.240 Yeah.

01:16:37.440 So I'm more likely as a mother, as a woman to give into things that a father would say,

01:16:43.380 no, things are going to be this way and this is how it's going to go.

01:16:47.560 Um, whereas I can, you know, I'm going to cave into things or because my marriage was a particular

01:16:52.540 way.

01:16:53.000 I felt like I had to make up for those things by allowing things I should not have allowed.

01:16:58.060 Um, I mean, I, there's, I, there's definitely, you know, mothers out there who can be very

01:17:02.880 strong, logical, make those decisions and stick to those decisions.

01:17:06.600 But by nature, we are not necessarily like that.

01:17:09.960 And I mean, I can see it with, um, my daughter's father.

01:17:13.460 I mean, uh, there, there's times where I think, oh, he's being mean.

01:17:17.440 And then, but you know, over the last few years, as I've come into realizing that there's

01:17:22.200 order for a purpose, I see where, where it's okay if dad sounds mean or, you know, if he's

01:17:29.660 more demonstrative and things like that.

01:17:31.400 So, so I've come to actually appreciate that and understand the need for it because I couldn't

01:17:37.500 do that on my own.

01:17:38.280 Yes.

01:17:38.520 Occasionally.

01:17:39.180 Yes.

01:17:39.560 There are times where my kid does something wrong and I'm going to raise my voice and I'm

01:17:43.240 going to be very firm and this is going to be what it is.

01:17:45.740 But ultimately, generally speaking, a man serves a different purpose, right? 0.98

01:17:50.500 We compliment each other.

01:17:51.800 And so I do think that, um, and I mean, I could go into, you know, the whole feminist,

01:17:57.700 the, the origins of feminism, not the origins, but some of the reasons behind it is pulling

01:18:02.880 the woman out of the home and creating this disharmony, um, for our children. 1.00

01:18:09.320 And, um, again, I, you know, I went to school, I worked, you know, full time.

01:18:15.520 I was not a stay at home mom.

01:18:17.700 Um, and if I had to go back to do again, despite the fact that, you know, I would have craved

01:18:25.440 more intellectual stimulation than being at home all day, I would have done it because

01:18:29.860 I think ultimately it's, it would have been the best thing to do, um, for at least for

01:18:35.400 my son.

01:18:36.120 Yeah.

01:18:36.480 Um, with my daughter, you know, I, I would, well, situation's different, but I would love

01:18:42.060 to do it for her as well.

01:18:43.960 I just would disagree that it's purely nature is the reason that these are the outcomes.

01:18:49.780 I think we perpetuate our, um, genetic differences so much in societal roles that women are incapable 1.00

01:18:57.620 in certain areas, like you said, to say no and to the, to do the dad role.

01:19:02.060 And I think it's because we push those roles so much when, if we kind of destructured the

01:19:07.920 way that we had gender identities, um, then women could be a whole person in a way. 0.93

01:19:14.280 And men could also cater to people emotionally and on a different level.

01:19:19.260 I think that it's always been this way.

01:19:21.980 Like I'll even grant that if you go way back into ancient societies, if you want to talk about

01:19:26.760 genders and such, you know, there's, there's old or ancient societies that had multiple 0.94

01:19:31.820 genders, right?

01:19:32.660 But setting that aside, if you look back at all throughout time, women had a particular 0.95

01:19:39.520 role, men had a particular role.

01:19:41.380 And it's actually, instead of, I think it gets demonized, but in actuality, it's a really

01:19:45.920 beautiful thing.

01:19:47.540 Um, and we're trying to change it to fit this new box that's been created.

01:19:53.220 And I, I just, I just think order exists for a reason.

01:19:57.700 Um, I'm not, you know, nothing against particular people or, or anything like that, but I, and

01:20:03.040 I just, and I can say that, um, and it doesn't have to be my age.

01:20:06.300 It could just be, you know, the fact that I've learned a little bit more over the last few

01:20:09.600 years.

01:20:10.280 Um, I just think it, um, it all serves a purpose.

01:20:14.580 Once you see things, they all fall in line instead of trying to like having a Rubik's cube

01:20:20.500 and trying to make all these pieces fit when they don't really fit.

01:20:23.220 It just seems to be that way.

01:20:25.280 I don't, you know, I would, I would like to go back to what you said about pushing traditional

01:20:30.520 roles on men and women is dangerous, but we actually, I mean, in the past, I don't know,

01:20:35.720 20 years or so, we haven't been pushing those traditional roles on men and women.

01:20:39.880 We've actually been doing the opposite and society has gone downhill.

01:20:44.640 So how can you say that pushing traditional roles are dangerous when we've done the opposite

01:20:49.280 and no good has come from it?

01:20:51.480 In what ways do you think we're all of a sudden not pushing gender norms and roles onto

01:20:56.920 people?

01:20:57.420 And in what ways do you think society is being negatively affected?

01:21:01.660 I mean, so as far as not pushing traditional roles on people, right?

01:21:05.100 Like I think as women, we are told now and in this century that our career, our degree,

01:21:10.220 our title is more valuable than being a wife and a mother.

01:21:13.720 We're told that like, we essentially have no value.

01:21:16.660 I mean, and I can attest to that because I post all the time about my lifestyle on social

01:21:20.860 media and I post that I don't have a college degree and I don't necessarily have like a

01:21:24.560 stable career and I get a lot of backlash for that.

01:21:27.220 And a lot of people will say, well, you don't really have any like value to you. 0.74

01:21:31.100 You're not smart.

01:21:31.860 You don't have a degree.

01:21:32.680 You don't have a title.

01:21:33.440 And on men, I mean, you said it like they're, they're basically told that they have toxic

01:21:39.400 masculinity if they want to be strong men and they want to be masculine.

01:21:42.800 So I actually think that we've done the opposite and we haven't pushed traditional roles on

01:21:47.260 men and women.

01:21:47.780 That's why you see women becoming more masculine and you see men becoming more feminine. 0.77

01:21:52.140 So do you think that all women should be in the house and taken care of? 1.00

01:21:58.140 I don't necessarily think that all women need to be stay at home wives and mothers.

01:22:01.760 I mean, in Savannah's perfect world, I wouldn't make women go work nine to five corporate jobs 1.00

01:22:06.760 that are literally just not good for their hormones.

01:22:08.820 They're being, you know, bossed around by a boss all day.

01:22:11.200 I don't think it's healthy for women. 1.00

01:22:12.540 So in my perfect world, if women wanted to work, they would either go the entrepreneurial 1.00

01:22:16.100 route or they would work until they became mothers and then stayed home with the children. 1.00

01:22:19.760 But there is a lot of evidence that moms that stay home with their children, the children 0.74

01:22:24.180 generally do better in society.

01:22:26.620 So I would say, yes, it's important once you have kids to figure out how to stay home with kids.

01:22:31.000 I don't think that we need two incomes in today's society.

01:22:34.360 I think that, you know, we're a society that chases after so many materialistic things and

01:22:38.900 oh, we need two cars and we need this crazy mortgage and we need designer bags and we need

01:22:43.340 three vacations a year.

01:22:44.440 I don't think that that's 100% necessary, but society pushes it to where both men and 0.97

01:22:49.380 women have to have an income to raise a family. 1.00

01:22:52.540 So yeah, I think traditional roles would actually help families.

01:22:56.120 It would bring back the nuclear family to society. 0.97

01:22:58.000 I mean, I think it's, it's, you see the birth rate, like it's, it's plummeted.

01:23:02.480 That's not helpful for any society.

01:23:04.260 If it keeps plummeting, we're never going to actually like grow our population.

01:23:11.260 We'll have to move it on a little bit, but we can come back to some of that later.

01:23:14.420 I just want to finish up really quick.

01:23:15.700 That thing we were reacting to earlier where the girl was getting doubt or excuse me, the

01:23:20.360 woman doused the guy for the misogynistic comment. 0.99

01:23:24.460 A quick reaction from the rest of the panel.

01:23:27.020 Go ahead.

01:23:27.400 What, what do you think on that?

01:23:28.680 Was that a boyfriend or just a friend?

01:23:30.580 I think it was just, they were hanging out.

01:23:32.200 It was just a friend.

01:23:33.460 Okay.

01:23:34.200 Yeah.

01:23:34.620 I, I don't agree with what she did.

01:23:36.940 All right.

01:23:37.240 He kept his mouth shut.

01:23:38.300 Yeah.

01:23:38.700 Your thoughts?

01:23:39.780 Not appropriate, but he probably said it to get a reaction.

01:23:42.560 Sure.

01:23:42.920 Okay.

01:23:43.240 Your thoughts?

01:23:44.160 I think she proved that she can't drink with the boys. 0.99

01:23:47.220 That's a good point.

01:23:48.240 Good points, Savannah.

01:23:49.160 What about you?

01:23:50.000 I don't know the context, but I'd like to think I would have laughed and just gone to

01:23:53.620 go make a sandwich or whatever it was he asked for.

01:23:55.720 Oh, you would have made the actual sandwich.

01:23:58.040 All right.

01:23:58.580 What about you?

01:23:59.120 Your thoughts, Carla?

01:24:00.220 I think she needs to work on her communication skills.

01:24:02.760 Homegirl needs to buy my book.

01:24:04.080 Probably just a little bit.

01:24:05.340 Probably work on the communication skills.

01:24:07.400 What do you think?

01:24:08.300 I'd ignore it and I'd be more concerned for his safety.

01:24:12.440 Okay.

01:24:12.760 There you go.

01:24:14.280 And then there was one other, Mary, if you can pull it up.

01:24:16.520 So the comments, though, on this were atrocious.

01:24:20.740 Pull up the Instagram one.

01:24:24.640 We'll go window tab.

01:24:26.480 Just hit the pause on the video.

01:24:29.580 Scroll, zoom, make it bigger.

01:24:32.860 All right.

01:24:33.140 Then scroll down so we can see the comments.

01:24:36.680 All right.

01:24:39.260 I'm going to read them.

01:24:40.200 So she cooked them.

01:24:41.480 One anti-misogyny, assaulted, blah, blah, blah.

01:24:45.500 He told her to stay in the kitchen, so she cooked him.

01:24:48.560 Literally.

01:24:48.960 90,000 likes.

01:24:50.400 Scroll down.

01:24:51.520 It's funny, though.

01:24:53.360 Okay.

01:24:53.960 Well, what was he wearing?

01:24:55.680 Did he try to tell her to stop?

01:24:57.560 44,000.

01:24:58.620 That's good.

01:24:59.760 Okay.

01:25:00.300 When you use a group A joke with a group B, I'm not sure what that means, but okay.

01:25:03.940 Isn't close, vulnerable, retarded in any way anymore? 1.00

01:25:06.680 This would have not happened if she stayed on the kitchen, though.

01:25:10.340 Okay.

01:25:10.700 Scroll down.

01:25:12.360 Why would he get drunk like that alone?

01:25:14.480 He should have known better.

01:25:17.780 What does that mean?

01:25:18.640 Like he lit himself.

01:25:19.340 Just a reminder, guys, this guy, okay.

01:25:22.220 She was on coke, too, wasn't she?

01:25:24.120 He basically did tell her to cook.

01:25:27.320 Shouldn't have worn flammable clothes.

01:25:29.180 He obviously wanted it.

01:25:30.980 She's an icon, and she is the moment.

01:25:34.520 Mind you, most of these have like 10,000 plus likes.

01:25:39.860 Bet he won't say that again.

01:25:41.340 I hope it doesn't ruin her life.

01:25:42.660 She has such a bright future ahead of her.

01:25:45.660 Lies. 0.99

01:25:46.180 She was with me the whole day, but what was he wearing?

01:25:50.140 But what was he wearing?

01:25:51.460 Again, 8,000 likes, 8,000 likes.

01:25:53.800 Stop defending her.

01:25:54.760 I can't like all the comments.

01:25:56.200 Scroll down.

01:25:58.100 Menthor asks it all the time, but when one gets a little charred, okay.

01:26:02.980 Scroll down.

01:26:04.180 But he was asking for it.

01:26:05.740 What's that emoji?

01:26:07.960 Scroll down.

01:26:08.920 If he didn't want to be set on fire, he shouldn't have worn something flammable.

01:26:15.180 Scroll down.

01:26:17.080 I'm getting carpal tunnel in my thumb from liking all these comments.

01:26:21.680 Mind you, these are all women, by the way. 1.00

01:26:23.280 Wait, did he say no?

01:26:24.560 What was he wearing? 0.84

01:26:25.780 This diva.

01:26:26.720 We'll do three more, I guess.

01:26:27.880 Scroll down.

01:26:29.600 Scroll down.

01:26:30.520 Scroll down.

01:26:32.540 She was cooking for real.

01:26:34.240 What was he wearing?

01:26:35.780 No, I don't want to be set on fire.

01:26:38.920 Uh, I think the, typically the, my objection to this, I know these people are joking, is

01:26:45.460 typically there's, there's like a lot of situations where women are consenting to having consensual 1.00

01:26:52.020 sex.

01:26:52.540 There's not a lot of situations where people are consenting to have someone lit on fire.

01:26:57.480 And further, even if you do consent to being lit on fire, the perpetrator of that is still

01:27:03.500 going to be subject to some sort of criminal penalty, regardless of if there was consent or

01:27:08.400 not.

01:27:09.040 Uh, although you could make some arguments, uh, you can make some arguments, but whatever.

01:27:14.860 Scroll down.

01:27:15.180 Uh, did he loudly and clearly state that, okay, anyways, you get the idea.

01:27:20.160 The comments, that's just on the Instagram.

01:27:22.520 It's been posted all over TikTok, all over Twitter.

01:27:25.040 I think the comments are egregious.

01:27:27.420 They're horrible. 0.99

01:27:28.140 They're disgusting. 0.98

01:27:29.340 Some of you guys were laughing, but I mean, like, let's remember here, there's a guy who 0.89

01:27:33.440 got, like, this guy's going to be permanently injured and disabled for life.

01:27:39.340 Like, burns are, are serious.

01:27:42.140 They're the horrible.

01:27:42.520 Like, they're disfiguring.

01:27:44.080 You're going to have permanent pain issues.

01:27:45.860 So, just like to point that out.

01:27:47.980 I think I was laughing because it was, and this probably isn't going to get me any likes,

01:27:55.300 uh, I don't mean that kind of likes, but, um, because it's mocking all the false accusations

01:28:01.540 from women, um, for SA.

01:28:05.740 Yeah.

01:28:06.420 Yeah.

01:28:07.160 Does that make sense?

01:28:08.320 Not because the man was, uh, of what happened.

01:28:11.400 Yeah.

01:28:11.780 Yeah.

01:28:12.980 I don't know if that makes it any better, but that's.

01:28:15.980 It's just the internet. 0.99

01:28:17.400 It's so silly and ridiculous. 0.98

01:28:18.120 Everyone, they want to, they want to get likes on their comment. 0.99

01:28:21.400 That's what it really is.

01:28:22.520 Yeah.

01:28:22.620 Like, I don't think that comedy is about taking her side.

01:28:25.020 It's about finding the irony that using that kind of humor.

01:28:28.740 I think a lot of people actually are taking her side.

01:28:31.640 Really?

01:28:32.560 Oh, yeah.

01:28:32.960 Yeah.

01:28:33.880 Oh, my gosh.

01:28:34.760 I think all of them were taking her side.

01:28:36.600 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:37.300 The fans are.

01:28:37.940 I, I've never even seen this story.

01:28:40.220 Oh, well, you, you were, you disavowed the violence, if I recall.

01:28:43.140 Mm-hmm.

01:28:43.400 Yeah.

01:28:44.160 Uh, we're going to let a couple chats come through.

01:28:46.740 Oh, TTS?

01:28:47.540 Woo-hoo. 0.65

01:28:47.800 Uh, Christopher Scott, great thanks for the endorsement. 0.97

01:28:50.280 The next time a woman is being a misandrist, I can light her on fire, and if she stops being 1.00

01:28:54.720 a misandrist, it's a net positive.

01:28:56.700 What a lot of, uh, response to this, Jazz?

01:28:59.180 Um, how is misandrist?

01:29:00.980 What is misandry affecting you in your day-to-day?

01:29:03.060 Because misogyny, I think we all can agree in some way, it has affected us personally.

01:29:08.000 I disagree.

01:29:09.520 What is misandry?

01:29:10.640 Especially, uh, like, hating men.

01:29:12.540 Hatred, contempt, or prejudice towards men.

01:29:14.780 Oh, I didn't know that there was a terminology for that.

01:29:17.620 I didn't, I mean, yeah.

01:29:18.600 Uh, I mean, I would disagree, I disagree with your categorization, so this is like a common

01:29:22.300 and feminist argument. 0.99

01:29:23.340 Essentially, you're saying, uh, misandry, or misogyny kills, misandry hurts feelings,

01:29:28.320 basically.

01:29:28.680 Yeah.

01:29:29.120 That's, is that your position?

01:29:30.200 Um, I wouldn't have worded it that way, but I don't disagree with the way that you just

01:29:34.040 described it.

01:29:34.660 Well, that's the common and feminist framing of it is, uh, misandry, uh, misandry is, is 1.00

01:29:41.060 either harmless or not that bad, whereas misogyny is like very harmful and kills women, essentially.

01:29:48.020 He made a women in the kitchen joke, like, that was it. 1.00

01:29:52.340 You know how, like, that's just funny.

01:29:53.900 I, people can't laugh anymore about anything.

01:29:56.180 Can I ask you a question?

01:29:57.020 So if, um, if misandry being non-lethal, uh, which I don't grant, uh, it's very disputable,

01:30:03.580 but if it makes it less of a concern, wouldn't it logically follow that every other kind of

01:30:09.620 bigotry, uh, is, it's not as big of a deal as long as we ensure no one is killed?

01:30:16.800 Um, what do you mean?

01:30:18.440 Well, essentially you're like, your position is, is well, misandry, not really that bad, 0.82

01:30:23.860 but misogyny, like, uh, at its worst, women are killed. 1.00

01:30:26.940 Well, I'm okay.

01:30:27.700 I'm saying the reason for misogyny is, and also I'm not necessarily a misogynist, but

01:30:33.720 I'm saying if somebody says they hate men, it's most likely because they have, um, experienced

01:30:40.200 some sort of violence from men.

01:30:42.440 Or wait, sorry, go ahead.

01:30:44.360 Whereas, um, if someone's a misandrist, I mean, that's what I meant with their misandrist

01:30:49.200 and they've probably experienced some form of violence against man, whereas if they're

01:30:53.300 a man is misogynist, they just, they're not really experienced violence from women. 0.97

01:30:58.180 They just hate women. 1.00

01:30:59.080 Um, I'm reiterating this. 0.94

01:31:01.680 Yeah.

01:31:01.920 How do you come to that conclusion?

01:31:03.600 Like, that's just an assertion.

01:31:04.760 How did you arrive there?

01:31:05.980 Because the numbers, um, the numbers, yeah.

01:31:09.520 Violence against women, assault, murder.

01:31:12.100 Sure.

01:31:12.500 Well, a couple, I suppose, counter arguments here.

01:31:15.520 Uh, first I would point out that if you look at, uh, homosexual relationships, so you look 0.75

01:31:20.180 at lesbian relationships, gay relationships, and also I'll include the heterosexual stats

01:31:24.580 on that.

01:31:25.220 Uh, the incidence of domestic violence are the highest in lesbian relationships. 0.99

01:31:28.860 They're the lowest in gay relationships, so two men.

01:31:31.500 And then, uh, so it's lesbian relationships, two women, highest levels of domestic violence. 0.91

01:31:37.340 Then you have heterosexual relationships, man, woman, and then the lowest incidence rate

01:31:41.760 of, uh, interpartner violence is homosexual, um, gay men. 0.54

01:31:47.540 So how could it possibly be when you have two men in a relationship where conceivably men

01:31:52.320 are allegedly more violent than women, they're the least violent, but when you have two women 1.00

01:31:57.080 in a relationship, they're the most violent.

01:31:59.280 How could that be?

01:31:59.920 Men are more violent against women, not against other men.

01:32:04.780 I don't.

01:32:06.620 You get what I'm saying?

01:32:07.680 I think my husband is.

01:32:08.660 It's not really the same argument if it's woman on woman.

01:32:11.000 Here's, here's my secondary argument in response to that.

01:32:13.120 So if we are, if we're going to just completely ignore, uh, my arguments as it relates to if

01:32:18.360 we're looking at homosexual relationships and the rates of domestic violence in those,

01:32:22.360 fine, we can just look at heterosexual relationships.

01:32:24.540 If we look at the rates of inter, um, non-reciprocal, uh, interpartner, uh, is it intra, interpartner,

01:32:31.680 non-reciprocal violence in heterosexual relationships.

01:32:34.680 So this is where one person is beating the other and there's not reciprocal violence.

01:32:40.300 Women are far more likely to be one directionally abusing their male partners than the reverse. 1.00

01:32:45.940 It's actually 50, 50.

01:32:48.040 If you look at they're both beating each other, it's 50, it's, it's 50% equal.

01:32:54.260 Okay.

01:32:54.760 But what are the stats on like violence and murder?

01:32:59.440 Well, you mean in relationships?

01:33:01.980 It's not equal.

01:33:02.620 No, I'm outside of relationships.

01:33:04.280 Oh yeah.

01:33:05.280 Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.

01:33:08.080 By other men.

01:33:09.700 Why would that matter?

01:33:11.060 Well, I'm just saying they're also more likely to be the perpetrators of crimes against women. 1.00

01:33:16.640 Violent crime.

01:33:18.240 Yeah.

01:33:18.700 I'd be willing to grant that.

01:33:20.120 It, yeah, you could look it up.

01:33:21.560 It's yeah, but just, just so I better understand if bad thing happens to woman and man is the 0.99

01:33:29.800 perpetrator.

01:33:30.680 Did he do the crime because she's a woman?

01:33:35.580 Um, no, not necessarily.

01:33:37.620 Okay.

01:33:38.840 So then how can you point to incidents, incidences of domestic violence or murder that occur to

01:33:45.820 women? 1.00

01:33:46.380 These must, it must be the case that it happened because this person is a woman or it happened

01:33:52.120 due to sexism.

01:33:53.480 Again, I blame it on the gender construct and how, um, we suppress male emotion.

01:33:58.840 And I think it turns, it, it comes out violently and, and subconsciously maybe they hold some

01:34:05.080 sort of resentment against women who get to express their emotions and have those feelings.

01:34:09.520 And, and that's what makes them act out in those ways.

01:34:12.200 I think it's just the pressure of, or the way men exist in society now is what creates 0.81

01:34:18.660 that, not just that she's a woman. 0.95

01:34:20.180 So he beats her.

01:34:22.040 Yeah.

01:34:22.200 And going back to your previous point though, you were saying how, um, with the comparison

01:34:27.320 between misogyny and, um, misandry that when women say things like, uh, if they say they 0.99

01:34:35.900 hate men, it's because they themselves have experienced, uh, could have experienced violence

01:34:41.820 from a man in their past.

01:34:43.680 A couple of questions, clarifying questions for you on that.

01:34:46.140 Uh, do you think their statements or their misandry is perhaps fair or justified?

01:34:52.920 And look, just let me preface this by saying, uh, violence towards anybody is wrong.

01:34:58.300 Women who experienced violence at the hands of men, absolutely abhorrent, completely wrong.

01:35:03.600 They should be prosecuted.

01:35:05.120 Um, but if a woman does experience violence at the hands of a man, does that then give them

01:35:10.760 carte blanche to, uh, have, uh, to be misandrous or to say, and it seems like that's your position

01:35:18.440 to say, uh, that they hate men and that that's an acceptable, uh, thing to say?

01:35:23.860 No, I, I don't think it's acceptable.

01:35:25.640 I think, um, if you say a statement so simplistic, you're not really looking deeper at, again, I

01:35:31.560 think the structure of gender is the reason that they have these opinions of men and it's 0.94

01:35:36.220 not necessarily, I think it's very shallow and like an empty statement to just say, I hate men.

01:35:43.720 I don't think they're, they're looking at the structure of gender and thinking it's not really

01:35:48.840 men. It's, it's the socialization of men and how we create them to be.

01:35:53.680 But I'm a little confused because earlier it sounded like you were essentially trying to

01:35:56.560 justify women saying these things. 0.99

01:36:00.620 Saying that they hate all men.

01:36:02.180 Well, you were, you were, so your position was.

01:36:04.060 It makes sense, but I think it's not deep.

01:36:05.640 I don't think that they are, I agree with you.

01:36:07.960 It's not deep, but what are you, I guess, what are you trying to get out when we're talking

01:36:11.480 about the comparisons between misogyny and misandry, when you say, well, it's not so bad

01:36:19.100 when women say that they hate men or that they're misandrists.

01:36:23.160 Well, I'm saying, I think, um, widely women have more of a reason, like a very basic observational 0.99

01:36:29.760 reason to say, this is why I hate men.

01:36:31.600 Whereas when men do it, it's because, because what? 0.90

01:36:37.320 Because they just don't like women, but I think they don't like the socialization. 0.99

01:36:41.000 But do those women just not like men? 0.73

01:36:43.860 Again, I think that statement is very empty.

01:36:46.480 It doesn't really hold much nuance, but I think if they were to.

01:36:48.920 But there's a reason.

01:36:49.640 Yes.

01:36:50.300 And is the reason justified?

01:36:52.700 Um, justified?

01:36:53.580 No, because I don't hate all men point blank statement.

01:36:57.440 I hate the structure of gender as how it exists today.

01:37:00.100 But for example, if, if you heard a female friend of yours. 0.76

01:37:02.560 I would understand her sentiment.

01:37:04.200 Yeah.

01:37:04.320 But if she said, uh, I hate all men because I went through X, Y, Z negative experiences

01:37:10.780 with one, two, three or more men in my past, would you like correct her clearly bigoted

01:37:16.980 statement?

01:37:17.380 Um, I think if she's my friend, we probably have a common understanding that it's because

01:37:24.480 men are socialized to be that way.

01:37:25.880 And it's not necessarily like their fault.

01:37:27.560 It's not so, but if their fault, what I would, if a man's violent towards a woman, I would

01:37:33.560 blame him directly independently.

01:37:35.400 But I mean, like when we're talking structurally, the reason that those statistics exist and that

01:37:40.940 men act out violently is because of the pressure they're put under.

01:37:44.940 I mean, I suppose there's all kinds of life factors that I would understand their sentiment.

01:37:49.940 I wouldn't necessarily agree with it, uh, without adding nuance.

01:37:53.660 Right.

01:37:54.200 But I, I mean, I think Brian's asking, would you challenge her on hating all men?

01:37:59.660 Even though what you're saying is, it sounds like what you're saying is her reason is some

01:38:03.200 kind of trauma response that she hasn't like fully explored.

01:38:06.120 Fine.

01:38:06.660 Would you still challenge that notion that all men should be hated or that that's okay?

01:38:12.340 Or like, yes, would you challenge it?

01:38:14.460 Would you push back on it?

01:38:15.640 Yes.

01:38:15.800 Is that what you're asking, Brian?

01:38:17.320 Kind of?

01:38:17.780 Yeah.

01:38:18.000 Well, at least for that part.

01:38:18.960 Yeah.

01:38:19.040 Yeah.

01:38:19.240 I think we'd have a discussion about the existence of gender, how it exists today socially rather

01:38:24.380 than just.

01:38:24.820 But would you, um, like, let me ask you if a male friend of yours that you were hanging 0.98

01:38:29.520 out with, he said, I hate women. 1.00

01:38:31.760 Would you be like, whoa, that's kind of a sexist misogynist thing to say? 0.98

01:38:39.240 Yes.

01:38:39.620 In the same way that saying you hate all men is.

01:38:42.020 But would you, would you have a similar sort of conversation with your female?

01:38:44.740 Yes.

01:38:45.840 Yes.

01:38:46.540 Would you?

01:38:47.360 Yeah.

01:38:47.920 Okay.

01:38:48.320 And, but again, I'm still really trying to get to the, the substance of you're saying,

01:38:55.100 uh, misogyny essentially worse than, uh, misandry.

01:39:00.500 Yes.

01:39:01.640 Okay.

01:39:02.300 And are you to some degree excusing misandry?

01:39:08.200 Excusing.

01:39:08.720 I, I just don't think that it, um, ends deadly for men.

01:39:13.520 Like misandry doesn't end in extreme violence and death and grape for men as the counter does.

01:39:21.740 I mean, there's some dispute there with some of those claims, but, uh, let me ask you this.

01:39:27.480 Uh, if a white person had, uh, one or more negative, uh, negative encounters with someone

01:39:37.140 who's black or some other minority group, it could be, it could be Latino, it could be Asian.

01:39:41.240 And, uh, and then they become racist towards that minority group.

01:39:48.260 You would then, I assume you would give them some, uh, you would understand their racism

01:39:54.620 because of their own negative experiences with the, with that racial group.

01:39:58.880 Um, I would be like, I understand the sentiment.

01:40:01.440 Sure.

01:40:01.940 But you also need to realize that race is socially constructed as well.

01:40:05.520 So if you're having similar experiences with a certain race, it's because of, um, our class

01:40:12.620 structure, um, you know what I mean?

01:40:17.600 Um, I mean, this is a totally different conversation, but again, I, uh, it's, it's just another social

01:40:23.120 construct, but so it's way more nuanced and I would understand the sentiment of them deciding

01:40:29.700 to be racist or whatnot, but I think that they just lack an understanding of, um, the structure

01:40:34.420 that we live under. 0.94

01:40:35.520 Um, and this would also apply to females who are misandrist. 0.72

01:40:40.300 Yes.

01:40:40.740 And I applied them equally.

01:40:42.180 Yeah.

01:40:42.500 But would you give the same sort of leeway when it comes to misandrist statements, but made

01:40:46.500 by women as you would to someone who's, uh, say like a member of the KKK and this person

01:40:55.020 themselves has had numerous, maybe they were victims of violent crime.

01:40:59.720 Maybe a family member was murdered by somebody of a racial minority.

01:41:02.900 Would you then give them a pass for their racism because of their own lived experience?

01:41:08.040 Again, I'm not giving a pass to any of these.

01:41:10.420 I'm just saying, I understand the sentiment, but you're misunderstanding the structures of

01:41:15.360 society.

01:41:15.680 And then to dive a little deeper on that, if we were to look at, for example, would you

01:41:20.700 say there's a, in the same way, there's a differential between men and women, you're

01:41:24.480 saying, well, misogyny worse than, um, misandry.

01:41:27.620 Let's say there's a black person who's had negative encounters with white people. 0.91

01:41:32.280 And then that black person has, uh, prejudice or bigotry towards white people because of,

01:41:37.140 uh, their lived experiences.

01:41:38.900 Would you say that they're, you might not even categorize it as racism, but I'll just, for 0.83

01:41:43.400 the simplicity, I'll just say they're prejudiced towards, towards white people.

01:41:46.460 Would it be more, less harmful than on the individual level than if there was a white 1.00

01:41:55.180 person who held, uh, racist or bigoted prejudice beliefs, even if that white person had just

01:42:02.440 as bad or even worse violent encounters where they were the victim of a black person?

01:42:06.840 Um, yeah, I think, um, racism against black people is on a, a social and structural scale.

01:42:19.540 So an outlier offense of a black person committing some violence against a white person or just

01:42:26.780 being prejudiced or racist against white people doesn't have the same effect as when white people

01:42:32.300 who are the oppressors or have some sort of higher social status in society were to be

01:42:39.140 racist against a minority or people who are already disenfranchised.

01:42:42.520 Gotcha.

01:42:42.800 And you mentioned like white people being the oppressors, uh, but I don't know if there's 0.89

01:42:47.800 any intersection here. 0.58

01:42:48.900 So what if, uh, like the wealthiest, let's say Barack Obama walks up to a white person who's 0.99

01:42:55.320 like a janitor and, uh, just starts beating the shit out of the janitor because he's white. 0.98

01:43:00.880 Uh, would you say that mind you, Barack Obama, former president of the United States, he's 0.99

01:43:06.400 like extremely wealthy.

01:43:07.720 He has, I would say, even though he's the ex president of the United States, probably

01:43:13.060 like substantial amounts of power, uh, in varying degrees.

01:43:16.480 I could even make the scenario when he was the president where he's the leader of the,

01:43:22.260 uh, the most powerful nation in the world. 0.77

01:43:25.980 And he walks up to the white house janitor who happens to be white and just starts beating 0.96

01:43:30.980 him up because he's white.

01:43:32.300 Would that still fall under your system of like, well, this is not really as bad or as

01:43:38.580 racist because there's a system that, uh, says that like when a black person is a perpetrator

01:43:44.700 against a white person, it's not like as bad.

01:43:47.800 Um, I'm against violence again in any circumstance.

01:43:51.960 Um, I think independently, obviously that's wrong of them to do, but I am saying that a 0.80

01:43:58.400 black person saying that they don't like white people is different than white people saying

01:44:02.480 they don't like black people because of the social status differences.

01:44:05.900 But what, what about your intersectionality?

01:44:07.800 So you would then have to factor in like social class, these sorts of things.

01:44:10.800 Yes, all of it includes.

01:44:11.520 I think you would, you would probably agree that Barack Obama is like higher in terms

01:44:15.960 of an extreme independent scenario.

01:44:18.860 And yeah, I know, but it's just, I'm just testing out your logic here.

01:44:21.900 I'm, I'm talking about the, the whole structure of race, not just like independent.

01:44:26.880 I mean, you, there's, you can point out any kind of outlier and.

01:44:30.500 Well, I think the individual is the ultimate minority. 0.84

01:44:33.420 So I think I would agree with you.

01:44:34.720 Like when it comes to socioeconomic status, uh, yeah, white people are probably doing better 0.78

01:44:39.540 socioeconomically, generally speaking than black people.

01:44:43.420 So it's more of an implication and kind of more extreme when white people say they hate 0.98

01:44:49.620 black people rather than, well, you think it's less justified for black people to hate white 0.88

01:44:54.780 people or you think it's more, I think it's equally bad. 0.94

01:44:57.180 Okay.

01:44:57.620 I think it's, even though that there's, even though there's a difference in socioeconomic.

01:45:02.500 Yeah, sure.

01:45:02.960 Okay.

01:45:03.140 But I, this would just come down to intersectionality and the ultimate.

01:45:06.640 So you would be like, okay, well let, let's look at their socioeconomic status.

01:45:10.600 Let's look at their, are, are they able-bodied?

01:45:13.500 Let's look at, um, you know, uh, are they a man or a woman?

01:45:17.540 Let's look at their skin color. 0.95

01:45:18.540 Let's look at their race.

01:45:19.360 We could, you'd look at all these varying factors and I would just bring it down to the

01:45:22.960 ultimate, uh, minority group, which is the individual.

01:45:25.740 So on the individual level, you'd have to look at the totality of circumstances between

01:45:29.720 each person.

01:45:30.480 And I can give you examples where like, if you can, if you have one black person versus one 1.00

01:45:35.160 white person where the, like the intersectionality of like their respective privileges and disadvantages

01:45:41.500 where the black person is more privileged than that specific white person.

01:45:45.920 And so I would just categorically reject that like the entire system would be completely

01:45:50.180 irrelevant to the individual, uh, encounter.

01:45:54.120 It w it wouldn't have any bearing whatsoever.

01:45:56.500 Okay.

01:46:00.680 Okay.

01:46:01.040 Uh, well, I'm going to let some more chats come through.

01:46:03.680 We have Lucas here.

01:46:05.740 One sec, Lucas going to get this pulled up.

01:46:08.960 Uh, right.

01:46:09.760 One sec here.

01:46:10.640 We got Lucas.

01:46:12.340 Boom.

01:46:13.240 Uh, chair one.

01:46:14.280 Wow.

01:46:14.580 You're, oh, okay.

01:46:15.580 Wow.

01:46:15.740 They're going for you. 1.00

01:46:16.560 You're a vile loathsome bottom feeder, but Hey, congratulations. 0.99

01:46:19.380 You're 32nd. 0.99

01:46:20.940 No, Lucas, come on.

01:46:22.120 Be nice.

01:46:22.520 Uh, prattle justifying this man's immolation just fostered the creation of a hundred thousand

01:46:28.660 new misogynist.

01:46:30.580 Whoa, wait, the net negative now that you've created, big net negative there, jazz.

01:46:36.140 Uh, okay.

01:46:36.560 We have claim here.

01:46:38.880 I'm not sure I have the energy for this panel tonight, especially chair one and two.

01:46:42.820 Their combined IQ is less than their combined age.

01:46:45.240 A degree does not denote intelligence.

01:46:47.540 Pilots don't need a degree.

01:46:48.840 Okay.

01:46:49.080 Thank you, claim.

01:46:49.700 Good to see you in the chat.

01:46:50.480 Do you want to respond to claim here really quick?

01:46:53.700 Me?

01:46:54.440 Yeah.

01:46:54.720 Do you ever, you want to shoot shots back at him or, um, no, thank you though.

01:47:00.060 Okay.

01:47:00.580 Uh, we have Chaw men are liberal or leftists largely as a mating strategy rather than pursuing 1.00

01:47:06.480 physical excellence in tradition. 0.99

01:47:08.060 They tell silly girls like you what you want to hear in an attempt to, uh, F you. 1.00

01:47:13.280 It got changed, but, uh, have you ever been bamboozled where you're like this guy, a guy 0.98

01:47:18.440 lied to you and he was like, oh yeah, I voted for Kamala.

01:47:21.840 Not that extremely, but I do feel like sometimes they hide their views.

01:47:25.520 Yeah. 0.69

01:47:26.900 Men really say they're leftist to bang a chick? 0.98

01:47:29.760 Is that what he's saying? 0.78

01:47:31.000 That is what he's saying.

01:47:32.400 Like, really?

01:47:32.900 They'll share their Zodiacs.

01:47:34.080 I've never had a guy do that.

01:47:35.240 The Zodiacs.

01:47:36.080 Yeah.

01:47:36.300 They'll be like, I'm an Aries.

01:47:37.700 Like, you know, let me take you home.

01:47:40.280 All right.

01:47:40.760 We have Josh Brooks here.

01:47:41.980 Hey, good to see you, man.

01:47:43.240 Is she to be expected to take care of the home invader? 1.00

01:47:46.400 New challenge unlocked.

01:47:48.220 Slide back the pistol cartridge receiver and lock it in place.

01:47:51.380 You know what?

01:47:51.820 Me and Jazz probably agree with that.

01:47:53.440 I don't think, um, me personally, I think it's a very outdated gender role that men should 1.00

01:47:58.840 be willing to sacrifice their life for women. 0.75

01:48:00.800 I'm on board with the feminists on this. 1.00

01:48:02.420 Hell yeah. 0.96

01:48:02.860 I would actually, if I was dating a woman, I would use her as a meat shield, in fact. 1.00

01:48:06.420 You're lying, Brian. 0.90

01:48:07.920 I'm dead.

01:48:08.420 No.

01:48:08.620 You're lying.

01:48:09.560 I will take my girlfriend. 0.98

01:48:11.740 You're lying, Brian.

01:48:12.080 But as a feminist, you would have to agree that this is going to be like, that's really 1.00

01:48:15.380 a trick.

01:48:15.440 Give my life for yours?

01:48:16.640 Yeah.

01:48:17.300 No.

01:48:17.760 That's like, really, yeah, that's like.

01:48:19.600 Why can't we just.

01:48:20.480 As you're dying, you can be like, oh my God, he's such a feminist.

01:48:24.320 You'd be like, yes, I died for a.

01:48:27.360 No, protecting the woman would be more.

01:48:29.320 That's extreme feminism. 1.00

01:48:30.040 Would be more feminist. 1.00

01:48:31.440 Yeah.

01:48:31.780 But I, no, I, I get what you're saying.

01:48:33.960 When it comes to a gun, who knows how to use it?

01:48:35.960 That's my question.

01:48:37.380 Now, see, I know how to use it.

01:48:38.640 So, you know what, if a guy, if I'm with a guy, he doesn't know how to use it, I'll

01:48:41.080 be like, just lay there, I'll handle it.

01:48:43.200 No, what, this is what I'm going to do.

01:48:44.620 So I can continue living my life.

01:48:47.260 I would be like, okay, Jazz, I'm going to jump out the window.

01:48:51.140 You go and take care.

01:48:52.240 How much?

01:48:52.540 Like a hundred pounds?

01:48:56.080 97.

01:48:56.620 Sorry.

01:48:56.880 Did I, is that insulting?

01:48:58.940 It's just not relevant.

01:48:59.880 It's a little misogynistic, Brian.

01:49:01.580 How is it this is?

01:49:02.700 But watch out.

01:49:03.820 You've got to watch out.

01:49:04.760 I will send, Jazz is my bodyguard.

01:49:08.180 I'm going to send her down to take care of the 200-pound home invader. 1.00

01:49:12.640 She's, you know, you could.

01:49:14.120 Just with these things, right?

01:49:15.140 Would you want your man to know how to use a gun?

01:49:16.440 Just with a fist, man.

01:49:17.640 Let's look at a fist.

01:49:17.800 Yeah, I think we would both have to know.

01:49:20.140 I would, because what if I'm alone at home?

01:49:21.940 Yeah, well, yeah.

01:49:22.400 We're not always at home.

01:49:22.820 But I didn't know if that was a forced gender role on men.

01:49:24.680 You get a gun and you learn jujitsu.

01:49:26.100 Men are more likely to know how to handle a weapon, yeah. 1.00

01:49:29.160 And I think that's, but as they should be, correct?

01:49:31.160 That's a really misogynistic statement, Jazz.

01:49:33.020 No, it's because of the structure of gender. 1.00

01:49:34.960 I think women are just as capable of letting it be. 1.00

01:49:38.520 They are, but we don't allow them in those spaces to do so.

01:49:41.560 Come on, women can, do you have a gun? 1.00

01:49:43.780 You have to take way more initiative rather than men just kind of, let's go shoot, you 0.96

01:49:48.860 know?

01:49:49.460 You know what I'm saying?

01:49:50.300 Different hobbies.

01:49:51.240 But that's not nature, it's nurture.

01:49:54.200 Are you married?

01:49:54.760 I'd like to go hunting.

01:49:56.560 We have Christopher Scott.

01:49:57.740 Well, let's see for 20 plus years society, mainly feminists have told men we are monsters 0.94

01:50:01.500 and predators.

01:50:02.080 Oh man, it's been going on for longer than that, but such as unalive, yep, unalive all

01:50:07.600 men.

01:50:08.180 That's how misandry hurts men.

01:50:10.100 I mean, I can think of a whole bunch of things.

01:50:11.680 Like for example, there's way more, I think there, I don't know what the distribution of

01:50:14.680 pediatricians is.

01:50:16.840 And I mean, I don't know if this is totally gendered, but like circumcision, one with all

01:50:22.460 these female pediatricians suggesting that there'd be circumcision. 1.00

01:50:25.540 This is male genital mutilation.

01:50:27.820 I thought that was religious, like a religious.

01:50:30.660 I mean, it's like, it's pretty, I don't think like hospitals when there's a newborn and

01:50:36.440 they're going to circumcise the child, I don't think they're. 0.99

01:50:39.640 You believe in uncut dicks. 0.99

01:50:40.760 Well, I think there are. 0.97

01:50:41.900 It was originally.

01:50:42.580 Can I say that?

01:50:43.340 It was originally. 0.99

01:50:43.960 You believe in uncut dicks. 0.97

01:50:45.020 But not currently. 0.97

01:50:46.540 That's not the reason. 0.99

01:50:46.980 We love all dicks. 0.99

01:50:47.780 They just continue to do it. 1.00

01:50:48.880 There you go.

01:50:49.440 Who cares?

01:50:49.980 And then if you look at the single motherhood rate, the single mothers are almost unilaterally 0.99

01:50:55.960 all having their boy babies' genitals mutilated. 0.84

01:51:03.020 In like the United States. 0.99

01:51:04.420 Yeah.

01:51:04.600 In the United States.

01:51:05.100 What is that?

01:51:05.960 Is that like a real statistic?

01:51:07.640 Yeah.

01:51:07.940 It's a cultural.

01:51:08.660 It could be a health.

01:51:09.280 But it's a cultural thing.

01:51:10.200 My sister didn't do that to her kids. 1.00

01:51:11.200 I don't think it's true.

01:51:12.000 It's a health.

01:51:12.540 That's what they say.

01:51:13.560 And it's a cultural thing.

01:51:14.700 In Europe, they don't.

01:51:15.820 Unless you decline it, they're going to have you come in and have the procedure done. 0.99

01:51:19.980 A lot of British boys do not have cut dicks. 0.99

01:51:24.680 But when it comes to the comparisons between misogyny and misandry, this is what's always 0.99

01:51:28.900 confusing.

01:51:29.540 So it's like when I think of like misogyny and misandry, I'm thinking more so about verbal

01:51:34.120 statements.

01:51:35.000 But like so what exactly would be categorized?

01:51:38.100 So are you saying like if somebody exhibits misogynistic tendencies, what is going to be the

01:51:43.640 downstream effects of that in terms of like actual negative impacts?

01:51:48.360 And I can think of a whole bunch.

01:51:50.340 I mean, I always try to categorize that specifically with words, both on the misogyny side and the

01:51:55.080 misandry side.

01:51:55.920 But I mean, there's plenty of actual downstream negative impacts as it relates to misandry,

01:52:03.440 I would say.

01:52:04.220 Well, his example was a hashtag, unalive all men. 0.56

01:52:07.920 And I think that's, I mean, unless I'm unaware of some sort of genocide or mass murder of men

01:52:14.360 all of a sudden perpetrated by women.

01:52:16.120 Um, so I think the extent of women on male on men violence is, um, a hashtag that seems

01:52:25.320 to be the extent of it rather than in our reality, women are being murdered by men. 0.99

01:52:31.100 Well, so I think if we're, if we're going back to the original example though, where this woman

01:52:35.380 lit this man on fire, I would argue that feminist rhetoric, misandric rhetoric in society, either 0.73

01:52:42.760 through the classroom, most universities have like a feminist studies program, everything 1.00

01:52:47.180 you see online, in media, in, uh, the, in the government, news, journalism, there's a

01:52:55.240 very, there's a very heavy feminist bent. 1.00

01:52:58.440 And I would say that that would, that would lead to situations where because of the narratives

01:53:07.320 as it relates to, if you try to paint something as, uh, like, oh my God, this, this specific

01:53:14.600 form of bigotry is completely egregious.

01:53:18.180 And in order to stop that people need to, uh, there's not specific advocations towards

01:53:25.680 violence, but there is a point where people will respond violently if it relates to even

01:53:32.580 like fairly benign and harmless, like microaggressions.

01:53:38.020 So if I'm understanding what you're saying, you're blaming misandria on her, on, on her actions,

01:53:44.200 not her poor impulse control, her anger, her, uh, whatever psychological disturbances might

01:53:51.800 cause her to respond in an inappropriate, violent manner.

01:53:55.460 We're blaming misandria rhetoric, not her individual inappropriate style of handling conflict.

01:54:03.000 Well, we don't, we don't necessarily know the precise reasons, but I would say that the,

01:54:09.500 that the fact that she was so upset by a, what I would consider, uh, a slightly rude, but

01:54:18.440 fairly benign joke, uh, I don't think a benign joke, even if we are to categorize it as misogynistic

01:54:26.080 would in any world warrant, uh, burning somebody alive.

01:54:32.420 And so, and so the fact that she's so upset by this sort of statement, what I think further

01:54:39.540 my claim that this is probably due to feminist rhetoric as to like, whoa, I'm being aggressed 0.99

01:54:47.080 upon verbally.

01:54:48.200 And you've seen these things when it comes to microaggressions, uh, they are going to categorize

01:54:53.260 it as a form of violence.

01:54:54.700 If you say a thing that is offensive, that then gives somebody justification to enact actual

01:55:01.820 physical violence on you.

01:55:03.500 I mean, we've seen this, for example, if you misgender somebody, this can sometimes lead

01:55:08.420 to violence on the part of the transgender individual things, feeling so aggrieved by words

01:55:16.340 that they're now going to become physically aggressive.

01:55:19.080 I'm not saying this happens all the time.

01:55:20.400 I just want to be fair, but they feel so aggrieved by a verbal utterance that they're

01:55:25.640 now going to, uh, aggress upon you physically.

01:55:28.940 And in this case, she's probably like, whoa, the guy, oh my God, what a misogynist. 0.89

01:55:35.740 Misogynists are dangerous. 1.00

01:55:36.920 I need to harm him. 0.98

01:55:38.740 But these things aren't happening on a grand scale. 0.98

01:55:41.240 I think it's a reaction, I think it's a reaction to the injustice, like trans people are murdered

01:55:48.960 or kill themselves more often than they get violent towards someone who misgenders them.

01:55:54.860 You know what I mean?

01:55:55.420 Like this is just another instance where you're blaming feminism, but really on a much larger

01:56:01.380 scale, misogyny is the reason a lot of women are dying. 1.00

01:56:05.280 Do you not think that, that transgender people unalive themselves more because they're mentally 1.00

01:56:10.920 confused and they're, they have a mental health issue and they don't know how to, you're saying

01:56:17.760 like gender dysphoria.

01:56:19.740 I, yeah, I guess you could call it that.

01:56:21.460 I would call it.

01:56:22.180 That's what it is.

01:56:22.820 Yeah.

01:56:23.140 Gender dysphoria.

01:56:24.240 That would be the clinical definition.

01:56:25.960 Yes.

01:56:26.360 Yes.

01:56:26.760 Um, I think that them not being able to assimilate in society, the way that we've structured gender 1.00

01:56:33.780 has, takes a really large toll on their mental health and that's why their suicide rates

01:56:37.900 are so.

01:56:38.160 I think the, the issue is, is when a child or, you know, a young person, what actually whatever

01:56:42.880 age is they go to these therapists and they say, Hey, I have gender dysphoria.

01:56:46.720 I think I'm a woman, but I was born a man.

01:56:49.460 That therapist, most of the time, if they're woke, most of them are not, not saying you

01:56:54.260 are, but I'm saying a lot of them are.

01:56:55.660 And they will say, okay, well, you know, you're right.

01:56:58.680 You should change into a woman because that will make you happy instead of fixing the 1.00

01:57:03.320 actual gender dysphoria, because that is a mental illness that should be worked on versus 0.87

01:57:08.420 just, you know, gratifying their, their desire to become another gender. 1.00

01:57:13.900 I think gender dysphoria only exists. 0.90

01:57:16.540 So like this, um, what it is, is like you're born a woman and you don't feel like you exist

01:57:23.300 within the idea of how women exist in society and you feel like a man, maybe like internally,

01:57:28.780 whatever.

01:57:28.940 I think that distinction only exists because we misclassified gender.

01:57:35.100 So if a woman feels more masculine and relates to more male dominant roles, they get confused

01:57:42.160 because they don't understand that gender is an identity and not biology.

01:57:47.100 That's not true.

01:57:47.840 Well, I think, I think your gender is, I mean, how would you define a woman?

01:57:52.600 Um, a woman is anyone who identifies with the role of women in society. 0.86

01:57:58.940 So if my husband put on a wig and he decided I'm a woman today and he said, you know what,

01:58:06.420 I'm going to identify as a woman, he's a woman.

01:58:08.820 Um, we can talk these, um, random situations that just would never happen.

01:58:13.960 That doesn't happen.

01:58:14.800 Nobody decides that they want to be trans and exist in society right now that demonizes

01:58:20.300 being trans, but it doesn't demonize being trans.

01:58:23.600 But no, I think if he felt more feminine and he aligned more with the roles of women and

01:58:28.920 society and he decided to take that route, then yes, that is a woman. 1.00

01:58:33.260 But you can't even say that because everybody's got the roles all confused.

01:58:36.580 Like we don't even, I mean, women are acting like men now, even though they're not trans 0.99

01:58:40.600 and men are acting like women. 0.72

01:58:42.100 Yeah.

01:58:42.500 And I don't, I mean.

01:58:43.100 So how can you even say that, oh, it's because these roles are pushed on us, which, like

01:58:47.060 I said earlier, I don't even think traditional roles are being pushed anymore on us.

01:58:50.540 I think it's the opposite.

01:58:52.400 So how, like, how can you say, oh, well, I'm going to be a woman or I'm going to be a man

01:58:56.900 because I identify with that.

01:58:58.580 So now I get to go into the women's bathroom as, you know, a previous man or whatever, however

01:59:03.480 you want to word it.

01:59:04.920 Still a man.

01:59:06.100 Still a man.

01:59:06.700 Still a man.

01:59:07.160 Yeah.

01:59:07.320 That's just not the opinion I hold.

01:59:09.580 And no one is transitioning just because they want to use the other gender.

01:59:14.540 No, I think it's for attention.

01:59:15.620 And I think that they have identity issues within themselves because it's like, okay,

01:59:19.400 I am insecure within myself.

01:59:21.340 So I am going to change into a man because I want attention and I also need to put my

01:59:26.580 identity in something.

01:59:27.860 And actually we do live in a society for, I would, I would say for the most part that 0.99

01:59:32.200 does praise the transgender ideology and it praises this mental illness. 1.00

01:59:37.580 I like, how do you not agree? 0.93

01:59:39.460 It's all over social media.

01:59:40.640 Why are they killing themselves so much? 1.00

01:59:42.540 Because they have a mental illness. 0.68

01:59:44.480 They are depressed and a lot of these people regret it years down the line. 0.94

01:59:48.540 Not a lot.

01:59:49.020 We can look up the statistics.

01:59:50.300 I'd love to look up the statistics.

01:59:51.780 Actual gender dysphoria is a very small percent of the population.

01:59:55.540 And there, there are some people who actually grow up feeling what gender dysphoria actually

02:00:01.000 is.

02:00:01.460 I would agree with you, your point that there are some people who right now in today's

02:00:06.180 society are feeling a variety of things that is not clinical gender dysphoria.

02:00:11.120 And it's, it's confusion, it's trauma, it's, I'm not comfortable as a woman because I feel

02:00:16.900 like men are predators.

02:00:17.820 So I think I'll just be a man or that's one example.

02:00:20.700 But there are lots of reasons why today a lot of young people are feeling like maybe I'm

02:00:26.600 non-binary.

02:00:27.460 Maybe I'm, maybe I'm the other, I'm, I'm the gender that I wasn't assigned with at birth.

02:00:33.620 And you're right.

02:00:34.500 They go to therapy.

02:00:35.680 And I, I agree with you that many therapists will, instead of explore on a deep level, the

02:00:43.120 root of this issue.

02:00:44.000 And is it real gender dysphoria?

02:00:45.740 Or is it a trauma response?

02:00:48.080 Or is it confusion?

02:00:50.160 I think when it gets endorsed and they're allowed to make that decision at a young age

02:00:54.480 before they develop, it can be detrimental.

02:00:56.340 And yes, a lot of them do eventually regret their decision when they take hormones and do

02:01:04.080 things.

02:01:04.220 I actually have a client who went as far as, you know, removing her breasts and then had 0.57

02:01:09.960 to have them put back on later when she realized she made a terrible mistake.

02:01:13.060 And so I'm just saying that, um, you're, you're both right.

02:01:17.820 There is real gender dysphoria, but it's a very, very small percentage right now.

02:01:23.760 There is a phenomenon of people feeling like they have permission to be confused and then

02:01:28.800 do something about it to their bodies.

02:01:30.920 And I think that we should be more responsible in how we respond to that and make sure that

02:01:38.500 that's, it's the real, very rare case of gender dysphoria.

02:01:42.340 And not all these cases of young people wanting to explore something.

02:01:47.500 And I think that if you feel like a not very feminine woman or a more masculine man, that's

02:01:52.260 great.

02:01:53.220 And I think the point that you've been making is people should just be allowed to be themselves.

02:01:57.800 Yes.

02:01:58.060 And there's a value in that.

02:01:59.800 There's also value in traditional roles.

02:02:02.480 And I think that, um, I think that they both have value.

02:02:07.200 Um, and so there's a lot of permission right now to just let people be confused outwardly.

02:02:14.500 And that's where I think we're getting into, we're starting to have, um, problems and confusion.

02:02:20.420 Um, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be yourself and wanting to be an outlier.

02:02:25.840 And, um, I also think that, you know, the traditional roles have a lot of value too.

02:02:33.480 They both have value and unfortunately they also contradict each other.

02:02:37.680 Yeah, I completely agree.

02:02:38.220 All right, we have a chat here from Rachel Wilson, Andrew Wilson's wife.

02:02:41.280 Chair two, I'm a firearms instructor.

02:02:42.920 Women often don't have the hand strength to operate the action on an automatic pistol 1.00

02:02:48.240 or use a spring-loaded magazine.

02:02:50.520 Gun companies pay women big money to represent them on social media. 1.00

02:02:55.600 There's no stigma.

02:02:57.480 Thank you, Rachel Wilson, for that chat.

02:02:59.440 Really appreciate it.

02:03:00.120 Reminder, guys, Andrew Wilson should be joining us here pretty soon.

02:03:04.260 Lucas, good to see you, man.

02:03:05.360 Chair one, using your logic.

02:03:06.580 Rick, how would you react if I were to claim that every instance of compulsory copulation

02:03:12.560 was a net positive because it had the potential of ameliorating the birth rate crisis? 0.99

02:03:17.960 I feel sorry for the sucker who shacks up with you. 1.00

02:03:20.540 You're dangerous. 1.00

02:03:21.420 Oh, Jazz is dangerous.

02:03:22.640 Woman, okay. 1.00

02:03:24.600 You want to respond to that?

02:03:26.280 Um, yeah.

02:03:27.700 My original statement was a joke.

02:03:30.260 Oh, it was a joke.

02:03:31.680 It's just a joke.

02:03:32.340 Just like the...

02:03:33.260 Yeah, there's just, there's no way we would know if it was a net positive or not.

02:03:36.100 I thought I was just putting a hypothetical out there.

02:03:38.880 Okay.

02:03:39.360 You're fine with jokes, though.

02:03:42.000 Um, what?

02:03:42.800 You want me in the kitchen?

02:03:44.480 Yeah, no, like if a man makes, like, a sexist joke.

02:03:47.220 Oh, I'm not going to do anything about it but be like, come on.

02:03:51.380 But, like, let's say you were on a date with a guy and he's like, I don't know what your

02:03:55.100 type is, like, it sounds like blue-haired, kind of, kind of soy, left, leftist.

02:04:02.640 You'd be shocked.

02:04:03.200 You'd be shocked.

02:04:04.500 Well, I actually, you know, it's funny.

02:04:05.760 I kind of, like...

02:04:06.460 Yeah, what is your type?

02:04:07.440 I get that you're, would you consider yourself left-leaning?

02:04:10.820 Yeah.

02:04:11.180 Yeah, but I have a feeling that you probably see, you encounter a lot of conservative men.

02:04:16.440 Yeah, so, I mean, I'm from the South, first off, so that's just the majority of the men 0.96

02:04:20.940 I come across.

02:04:21.760 But also, I am very attracted to people who are driven and hardworking and confident.

02:04:28.060 And a lot of times, those happen to be, like, narcissists.

02:04:32.740 And, again, in the area that I am, they're most likely conservative as well.

02:04:35.740 So, it's just a bad mix all around.

02:04:37.260 Would you say, of the guys you've dated, what proportion of them completely diverge from

02:04:43.180 you when it comes to, like, politics?

02:04:44.600 Oh, they weren't a boyfriend if we completely disagreed.

02:04:48.080 But I've definitely, like, dated for or kept seeing, like, some...

02:04:52.460 And we would have, like, the reason it went on for however long it did is because we

02:04:56.260 would have, like, pretty intellectual conversations and we would have these kind of talks with

02:05:00.820 each other, you know, one-on-one over drinks, stuff like that.

02:05:03.760 So, I find that, like, enticing, just if anyone's able to, like, open to talk about things like

02:05:08.560 this.

02:05:09.140 Okay, so you...

02:05:10.160 But of the men you've dated, perhaps a majority of them have not aligned with you politically?

02:05:15.660 Because of my location, yeah.

02:05:17.720 Because of your location, okay.

02:05:19.220 I would love to find someone who...

02:05:20.920 Is there any men out there who read, like, feminist literature?

02:05:24.380 Yeah, they're all in L.A.

02:05:25.460 L.A. and New York.

02:05:27.520 Soy boy.

02:05:27.940 Don't catch your return.

02:05:28.980 London. 1.00

02:05:29.660 London, the boys are, like, they're down as fuck, then. 1.00

02:05:33.560 The fuck? 1.00

02:05:33.980 Also... 1.00

02:05:34.540 The fuck? 1.00

02:05:35.420 Do liberal men pay for, like, dates? 1.00

02:05:38.060 Fuck yes. 1.00

02:05:38.400 Yes. 1.00

02:05:38.880 They do?

02:05:39.300 Yeah.

02:05:39.760 Which gets me into my next thing.

02:05:41.720 Thanks for bringing that up, Savannah.

02:05:43.540 I want to go around the table and we're going to do show of hands from everybody.

02:05:47.140 So we'll keep it centered here for a moment.

02:05:49.500 Show of hands, should men pay for first dates? 0.97

02:05:52.400 Is that everybody except for you?

02:05:57.280 Okay.

02:05:58.520 So let's start with someone else.

02:06:00.220 Show of hands, should men be protectors from everybody?

02:06:03.620 What does that mean?

02:06:04.460 Yeah.

02:06:04.840 Protect you.

02:06:05.620 So...

02:06:06.060 Yeah.

02:06:08.100 Yeah.

02:06:08.500 From other men. 0.76

02:06:09.880 Sure, yeah.

02:06:10.720 Or what about a woman? 0.97

02:06:11.700 Or are you going to throw down with a chick? 0.99

02:06:13.020 When? 0.97

02:06:13.160 How often are women attacking? 1.00

02:06:14.900 I see... 1.00

02:06:15.400 Bro, I see that shit all the time. 1.00

02:06:16.080 Yeah, no, these bitches be crazy. 1.00

02:06:18.380 She worked in a strip club. 1.00

02:06:19.920 I mean, shit. 1.00

02:06:20.360 She's awesome. 1.00

02:06:20.860 I know.

02:06:21.020 It's not the right location.

02:06:21.800 I got jumped by so many girls. 0.77

02:06:23.820 Like, it's crazy.

02:06:24.860 Oh, my God.

02:06:25.560 Yeah, I know, girl.

02:06:26.960 I've never gotten to a five-peeners stripper, man. 0.97

02:06:28.280 Wait, you live in Atlanta.

02:06:29.660 Or, sorry, you live in Georgia. 1.00

02:06:30.880 Wait, yeah, Georgia, bitch. 1.00

02:06:32.040 Yeah. 1.00

02:06:32.740 It goes down in Georgia.

02:06:33.860 It was lucrative in our days.

02:06:34.340 She's in the south.

02:06:35.160 She's not in the bars.

02:06:36.100 I'm not in the club.

02:06:36.740 Have you ever pulled out a girl's weave? 1.00

02:06:40.860 Wait, what?

02:06:42.140 Me?

02:06:42.640 Yeah.

02:06:43.040 Hair pulled.

02:06:43.580 I have to pull out their hair, Brian. 0.53

02:06:46.160 Black. 0.93

02:06:46.420 Just hair in general.

02:06:47.660 Learn how to fight.

02:06:48.720 Pull hair. 1.00

02:06:49.580 Hair in general. 1.00

02:06:50.900 Leave fucking hair alone. 1.00

02:06:52.600 Really quick. 1.00

02:06:53.420 Protectors.

02:06:53.940 Men should be protectors. 1.00

02:06:54.960 Show of hands.

02:06:55.820 No, okay.

02:06:56.820 Show of hands.

02:06:57.560 Should men be providers? 1.00

02:07:01.240 Without the preclusion of women. 1.00

02:07:01.740 Those are shittiers, too. 1.00

02:07:03.140 Okay. 0.98

02:07:03.420 Being able to.

02:07:04.380 Show of hands.

02:07:05.620 Should men open your car door on a first date or dates?

02:07:09.620 Yes.

02:07:10.240 Chivalry is good.

02:07:11.220 Is that a thing?

02:07:12.180 It should be. 1.00

02:07:13.020 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:07:13.620 That used to be. 1.00

02:07:14.480 Should men be chivalrous?

02:07:16.840 Yes.

02:07:18.240 Some of these things. 0.99

02:07:19.000 You're saying so many terminologies I don't, and I feel stupid right now. 0.99

02:07:22.480 I, like, actually feel dumb. 0.97

02:07:23.760 It's okay. 1.00

02:07:24.480 Fuck. 1.00

02:07:25.040 Like a gentleman. 1.00

02:07:26.380 Yeah.

02:07:26.660 Oh, yeah.

02:07:27.260 Yeah.

02:07:27.560 Like back in the old days.

02:07:28.280 Show of hands.

02:07:29.820 Should men observe the sidewalk rules? 0.98

02:07:32.480 So this is when you're walking with your date or girlfriend, wife. 0.89

02:07:35.560 The man should typically walk on the side of the sidewalk closest to the street where the

02:07:40.080 cars are.

02:07:41.100 Okay.

02:07:41.880 Show of hands.

02:07:43.260 Who here thinks if you have a boyfriend or husband, and then in an instance where only

02:07:47.920 one person can survive, should he sacrifice his life to save you?

02:07:52.980 Yes.

02:07:57.260 Can we? 1.00

02:07:58.700 Should he take the bullet? 0.99

02:08:00.060 I think whoever's able to. 1.00

02:08:01.820 Take an arrow?

02:08:02.380 A bullet? 0.70

02:08:03.000 Yeah.

02:08:03.280 Be pushed over a cliff?

02:08:04.260 What happened?

02:08:04.700 Okay.

02:08:06.640 And then, so, hold on.

02:08:08.500 Here's where I'm a bit confused, Jazz.

02:08:12.160 And I'm not trying to pick on you, but I think you're probably.

02:08:14.360 I'm picked on.

02:08:15.300 You're getting a little bit picked on, but you're. 0.92

02:08:17.300 You just get a smart ass pitch.

02:08:17.900 It's kind of a more conservative panel, I guess.

02:08:21.220 Of all the first dates you've been on, who paid?

02:08:26.160 The men.

02:08:27.420 Have you ever paid on the first date?

02:08:28.720 I probably have split a tab out of kindness.

02:08:31.140 On the first date?

02:08:31.840 Yes.

02:08:32.140 Okay.

02:08:32.540 Okay.

02:08:33.200 But overwhelmingly, majority of the man paid?

02:08:36.360 Yes.

02:08:36.840 Okay.

02:08:37.240 And then, when it comes to initiative, like, are you making the first move?

02:08:41.220 Like, maybe approaching a guy?

02:08:42.540 Or is the guy almost overwhelmingly the one making the first move?

02:08:48.040 Ooh.

02:08:48.720 I'd say it's pretty even, I think.

02:08:52.200 Okay.

02:08:53.560 Pretty even?

02:08:53.760 Like, first move is, like, asking them out.

02:08:55.940 Yeah.

02:08:56.300 Yeah.

02:08:56.540 I'd say it's pretty even.

02:08:57.420 Pretty even.

02:08:57.960 Okay.

02:08:59.080 And let's see here.

02:09:01.680 I think I'm trolling. 1.00

02:09:02.760 I'm not trolling, bitch. 1.00

02:09:03.660 I'm just like this. 0.99

02:09:04.660 Anyone who knows me knows.

02:09:05.640 That's just.

02:09:06.440 That's her. 0.88

02:09:07.140 No, I literally.

02:09:08.360 That's how she is. 0.75

02:09:08.980 No, anyone who knows me knows I'm always sucking on a lollipop.

02:09:11.760 You see me out in the club, see me anywhere, I always got a ring pop on me.

02:09:14.820 Oh, my God. 0.78

02:09:15.260 Who the hell is? 0.90

02:09:16.580 I know. 0.96

02:09:18.080 Okay. 1.00

02:09:19.520 Fucking bitch. 1.00

02:09:21.500 Suck my clit. 1.00

02:09:23.020 What the fuck? 1.00

02:09:23.920 But you couldn't, because you couldn't afford it. 1.00

02:09:25.580 What the fuck? 1.00

02:09:26.960 WTF? 1.00

02:09:28.700 You can, by the way, Mary, you're able to pull these up. 0.90

02:09:31.380 You can show the super chats.

02:09:32.960 I don't.

02:09:33.100 Mary, I'll send the chat. 1.00

02:09:35.560 Nah, this motherfucker thinks I'm trolling. 1.00

02:09:37.580 What the fuck? 1.00

02:09:38.400 And then, I guess, final question for you, Jazz, in terms of physical attraction. 0.99

02:09:44.380 Well, we kind of went over this, but not factoring in, like, later revealed political positions.

02:09:50.840 Generally, like, do you find conservative or liberal men more attractive?

02:09:56.200 Anyone I can talk philosophy with, because that's just my interest.

02:10:01.960 So, I find that to be pretty even.

02:10:04.420 But, like, of the liberal men that you do encounter, do they measure up in terms of, like, I understand for you,

02:10:11.220 you, like, you would probably find it attractive if somebody meshes with you when it comes to your politics, right?

02:10:17.200 Like, you would find that to be a pro or a benefit.

02:10:20.580 But disregard, I guess, sort of putting that aside, well, comparing the conservative men and the liberal men,

02:10:31.480 like, would you almost wish that the conservative men weren't conservative?

02:10:36.580 Because the other characteristics they possess, you find those attractive?

02:10:40.380 Or you just find them more, they just happen to be more physically attractive?

02:10:43.940 Well, maybe not physically attractive, but in the area I live, the liberal men are more artsy.

02:10:49.960 And they're driven, in a sense, but I like men who go to work.

02:10:54.500 And you know what I mean?

02:10:56.580 So, most of the time, if we're disregarding, like, political views,

02:11:02.420 conservative men usually have the traits outside of politics that I am attracted to.

02:11:09.180 So, yeah, I'm looking for, like, the perfect mesh of a person that doesn't exist at all.

02:11:14.480 It's tough out there in Georgia.

02:11:16.380 And so, you...

02:11:18.940 Oh, you live in Georgia?

02:11:20.240 Yeah.

02:11:20.700 Oh, like, you still live there?

02:11:22.000 There's so many good men in Georgia.

02:11:23.920 That's such a lie. 1.00

02:11:24.440 Oh, you flew out here, bitch. 1.00

02:11:25.420 Okay. 1.00

02:11:25.860 Maybe not the liberal...

02:11:27.180 Wait, do you live in Atlanta?

02:11:27.820 ...blue-haired...

02:11:28.320 Well, sure, but if we're speaking in general.

02:11:30.420 Sure.

02:11:30.660 And I think the other thing I was going to ask was, can you reconcile, because when you

02:11:40.620 were discussing what feminism is, you're like, well, as it relates to feminism, you think

02:11:46.280 that pretty much across the board, men and women have equal rights, at least as bestowed

02:11:50.860 upon them by the government.

02:11:53.300 Or you don't think men and women have equal rights?

02:11:55.540 Well, at the moment, Roe v. Wade was turned over federally, so that's a law that has control

02:12:02.140 over women's bodily autonomy, and there is no law that controls men's choice over their

02:12:07.380 body, so I think that's a discrepancy.

02:12:09.860 Actually...

02:12:10.260 Men also can't get pregnant. 0.94

02:12:11.620 Actually, so hold on.

02:12:13.540 There's three things I'm going to...

02:12:14.980 I'll give you here.

02:12:15.480 It went right back where it was supposed to go.

02:12:18.220 Back to the States.

02:12:20.620 That's where it's supposed to go.

02:12:23.020 It's true.

02:12:23.560 Right back where it's supposed to go, and it was enacted the year I was born, 1972.

02:12:27.860 I think it's important to set federal precedents for things as important as that.

02:12:32.160 So I guess my count here would be, one, as it relates to reproductive rights, men don't 0.99

02:12:37.620 have any reproductive rights, so in terms of there being a comparative inequality between

02:12:42.120 men and women, I would actually say that if you wanted equality between men and women,

02:12:47.400 and that was your stated goal, despite perhaps what women want or female advocacy, you would

02:12:54.760 actually have to entirely roll back abortion rights completely for there to be a semblance 0.99

02:12:59.540 of equality between men and women, because men have no reproductive rights, ergo, equality 0.99

02:13:05.720 would dictate women should have no reproductive rights also. 1.00

02:13:09.460 I know that that wouldn't be what women want, but that would actually create equality. 1.00

02:13:14.260 Well, not necessarily, because women are the only one in the equation that can give birth. 1.00

02:13:18.920 I agree with you.

02:13:19.720 What is a woman? 1.00

02:13:20.220 I agree with you, but if we're doing a comparative...

02:13:22.980 Men don't ever have to make the choice of if they should hold a baby in their stomach

02:13:26.580 or not.

02:13:26.940 Yeah, sure.

02:13:27.440 I agree with that.

02:13:28.040 So, the reason that women should be allowed to choose is because they will be holding 1.00

02:13:35.040 the baby, whereas the men don't have that option, therefore there isn't a law to suggest 0.79

02:13:39.140 I agree with you to the degree that, yes, you're right, only women, well, I don't know 0.99

02:13:44.880 if, well, depends on your...

02:13:46.640 Go on, people with a uterus, sure. 0.99

02:13:47.700 Well, that's your words, not mine.

02:13:49.400 Yeah.

02:13:49.500 I agree with you, yes, only women can get pregnant, but again, if we're doing a comparison 0.97

02:13:55.840 when it comes to, well, what rights do men have that women don't, again, I would just 0.99

02:13:59.720 say if we're doing a comparison of equality between men and women, you would not be able

02:14:04.200 to say that it's something that uniquely impacts women, but if we're doing a comparison of rights 0.99

02:14:11.440 between men and women...

02:14:12.740 I'm saying we're fairly equal on paper, sure.

02:14:14.540 Sure, okay.

02:14:15.080 Okay, so, but your position was more so geared, yes, we'll just move on to that, your position

02:14:20.240 was more so geared towards, or wait, hold on, there's one other thing I want to say, you

02:14:24.380 said men don't have any constraints on their bodily autonomy, this is actually state down,

02:14:29.360 so I'll give you three examples, I mentioned this before, for, well, circumcision, I prefer 0.99

02:14:35.840 to call it infant genital mutilation.

02:14:39.580 I'd agree. 0.94

02:14:40.140 Well, infant male genital mutilation, because baby girls are not, don't have their genitals 0.98

02:14:46.560 mutilated in the United States, there's maybe like some, I don't know if it's like under

02:14:51.020 Islamic, even then I'm pretty sure it's outlawed, in the United States anyways, so this would 1.00

02:14:57.120 be evidence of baby boys not being able to give their informed consent to have their genitals 0.94

02:15:02.620 mutilated upon birth.

02:15:03.940 There is an option, the parents hold the option, it is normalized that it does get cut, it usually

02:15:09.360 gets cut without asking, but there is the option, so there is the choice.

02:15:14.100 I would say it's systemic in the sense that.

02:15:16.260 If it were illegal, that would be the issue, and that would be an equal discrepancy that

02:15:19.360 you could suggest.

02:15:19.900 Right, but I would argue that there's no law, which I think there should be, preventing this

02:15:24.680 barbaric and outdated practice.

02:15:26.880 Okay, I would agree, I would agree then.

02:15:27.440 And so I think there ought to be a law that is, uh, choice.

02:15:33.280 No, no, no, there's no choice.

02:15:35.400 Oh, that you can't sniff them at all. 0.99

02:15:36.460 I don't care what your religion is, you can't mutilate the genitals of a baby boy. 0.99

02:15:42.300 That's my position. 0.96

02:15:43.100 I don't care what your religion is, there's no religious grant, I think this is a barbaric

02:15:47.360 practice.

02:15:47.900 Yeah, I agree.

02:15:48.800 I don't think the health standard exists either, I don't think it's true.

02:15:51.440 And I also think it's systemic too, because the entire healthcare system is systemic, you have

02:15:56.020 an abundance of female pediatricians that are performing this thing, you have single mothers 1.00

02:16:01.180 who are, uh, who are opting, choosing to have their baby boys have their, uh, be circumcised,

02:16:07.580 and then you have like a cultural and social phenomenon, which kind of relates, I mean, there's

02:16:13.820 like this argument about like, it's healthier and cleaner and more hygienic, there's some disputes

02:16:18.940 there.

02:16:19.240 There, there's clearly other countries where there's not circumcision and you can, you can 0.99

02:16:25.440 clean, you know, the penis without the need for that. 1.00

02:16:29.980 But the other component here would be like women's own stated dating preferences. 1.00

02:16:34.880 Once they become adults is like, well, I prefer.

02:16:37.300 So what, what impact does that have socially and culturally where women have a really strong 0.98

02:16:42.980 preference, genital preference for men who are circumcised?

02:16:46.220 And I would say that that's like another factor there, but that relates to bodily autonomy.

02:16:50.980 The second thing I would argue is forced military conscription, the draft that's clearly the state 0.85

02:16:56.400 down saying, uh, men, you can be ultimately sent off to some foreign country, or if it in

02:17:04.200 the event of like an invasion, I suppose, whatever you could be sent to go and die effectively

02:17:10.260 or be harmed or go to war.

02:17:12.180 That would be taking away men's bodily autonomy further. 1.00

02:17:15.320 If men don't register for the selective service, they can be, well, there's a whole bunch. 0.84

02:17:20.240 They can't vote.

02:17:21.120 They lose out on certain, uh, federal jobs, uh, certain federal aid.

02:17:26.560 They lose out.

02:17:27.400 Uh, there's, it's technically a felony, $250,000 fine.

02:17:30.620 So there's all kinds of negative.

02:17:32.280 So you're against any laws that restrict male bodily autonomy, like being sent to the draft.

02:17:39.300 Uh, I'm against circumcision, the draft, I think war bad, but also war is just going to 0.89

02:17:48.860 be, unless there's some sort of like total massive shift in like, uh, like a technological

02:17:56.020 singularity where like the world we live in 50 years from now is like so far beyond this

02:18:01.300 would probably happen through AI or like advancements in technology so far beyond what our human minds

02:18:06.280 can even comprehend that war has just completely been eradicated.

02:18:10.260 I don't think that'll be on the scale of 50 years, but I would say that, uh, as it currently

02:18:15.140 stands, war is an inevitability.

02:18:18.200 And so there are circumstances where I don't think it should be the case as a male advocate

02:18:23.720 that, uh, men should be subject to war and war is a specifically gendered male grievance,

02:18:29.040 but it just is sort of a reality that nations, nations and countries are not going to, uh,

02:18:37.600 are not going to reject their ability to call upon citizenry in the event of like an invasion

02:18:42.260 or war.

02:18:43.500 Yes, the nations are going to reserve their right to force men to fight.

02:18:48.360 Go ahead.

02:18:48.940 I just have to have something to add about war.

02:18:51.080 Okay.

02:18:51.560 My father was not drafted into Vietnam for one reason.

02:18:57.200 And it was funny because we were right after dinner, we were talking about it and I have

02:19:02.080 two other sisters and my dad, he never had anything to drink at dinner and still he had

02:19:06.920 his milk right after dinner and he was standing at the sink and we're like, yeah, dad, why weren't

02:19:11.420 you drafted? 0.99

02:19:12.700 Well, he was like, my balls were too big. 0.99

02:19:15.320 Yeah, I guess bone spurs is a thing. 0.99

02:19:20.300 And I guess having balls that are too big is a thing too. 0.92

02:19:24.060 I don't know. 1.00

02:19:24.780 I've never seen my dad's balls, but shit, right? 1.00

02:19:28.200 Shit. 1.00

02:19:29.020 Shit. 1.00

02:19:29.740 Yeah. 1.00

02:19:30.060 Shit. 1.00

02:19:30.560 Shit is right. 1.00

02:19:31.640 That's crazy, son. 1.00

02:19:32.900 Yeah. 1.00

02:19:33.760 Shit. 1.00

02:19:35.300 Somebody's balls are too big to get into military. 1.00

02:19:38.000 There you go. 0.99

02:19:38.520 Or be drafted.

02:19:39.480 So there it is.

02:19:40.760 I mean, just like Trump with his bone spurs.

02:19:43.220 It's true. 0.73

02:19:43.980 And a ball's too big is also freaking true.

02:19:47.380 Your dad had elephant.

02:19:49.940 My father has got elephant.

02:19:51.540 And of course, he's the one with prostate cancer.

02:19:54.400 So, but he's, he didn't get the, he's not neutered.

02:19:57.020 He's not neutered.

02:19:58.120 He's not neutered like that.

02:19:59.520 He just got the prostate removed, but yeah.

02:20:02.760 Okay.

02:20:03.240 And then look, my final point here is when it comes to the men lacking bodily autonomy,

02:20:08.440 I mean, uh, in the event of, uh, so for example, if, uh, the, the state can force men to work.

02:20:16.680 And so we've done away, I think in the 18th century, or maybe it was the early 19th century.

02:20:21.780 I forgot the exact date.

02:20:22.640 We, we did away with, uh, with debtors prisons.

02:20:26.460 So if you have a debt to somebody, they used to be able to send you to prison, right?

02:20:29.820 Correct.

02:20:30.240 No longer can you be sent to prison for a debt.

02:20:33.080 Nope.

02:20:34.200 Except as a man, if you owe child support to a woman. 0.85

02:20:39.420 Now, again, to be fair, this is.

02:20:41.640 She can request it.

02:20:42.860 I.

02:20:42.980 Hold on.

02:20:44.380 So this is gender neutral to be fair.

02:20:46.700 A woman who's had behind on her child support could arguably also be sent to prison. 1.00

02:20:51.940 Although I would argue first off the majority of child support, I think it's 93% goes in

02:20:58.420 the direction of men to women.

02:20:59.740 So it impacts some women, but it's overwhelmingly men in the same way that you might argue that

02:21:03.820 like SA, we would agree that men are also victims of SA, but you would probably say this

02:21:08.600 impacts women more because they're, uh, they're more likely to be a victim or whatever. 0.99

02:21:14.700 So in this case, uh, that would be another example of men lacking bodily autonomy because

02:21:19.840 the government can basically say, for example, and it could be, it could be under like really

02:21:24.180 kind of shitty circumstances.

02:21:25.620 Like for example, a female teacher could SA one of her underage students and she could get 1.00

02:21:32.060 pregnant by that student where essentially she graped him and then she gets pregnant. 0.54

02:21:37.060 The state can then force that, that child to, uh, pay child support to her despite one,

02:21:44.560 there being a crime that occurred and, uh, so forth.

02:21:47.660 So that's kind of an extreme example, but another example that's probably a bit more frequent

02:21:51.380 there, there's a couple, maybe they're in a situation.

02:21:54.320 So do you support male bodily autonomy or do you not?

02:21:56.980 Well, hold on.

02:21:57.380 I'll get to that.

02:21:58.420 But so the more, uh, realistic example might be like a, you know, there's a boyfriend and

02:22:04.680 girlfriend or a situationship they're sleeping together, but the guy's not wanting to have

02:22:08.860 a child and she gets pregnant.

02:22:11.100 She unilaterally chooses to keep the child because women can do that. 1.00

02:22:16.060 They can choose to get an abortion and the man can't do anything.

02:22:19.400 They can choose to keep the child.

02:22:20.680 The man can't do anything.

02:22:21.720 He can't opt out.

02:22:22.580 So the, so the, uh, men can essentially be forced into fatherhood and basically be debt

02:22:29.160 slaves, uh, for 18 plus years, or sometimes even up to 21 plus years, depending on the

02:22:35.580 state.

02:22:36.220 So, um, I'm in favor of male bodily autonomy.

02:22:40.920 Yes.

02:22:41.260 Okay.

02:22:41.880 Yeah.

02:22:42.220 I find it funny that you're in favor of male bodily autonomy, but not women's. 0.97

02:22:46.400 When did you didn't even hear my position on?

02:22:48.740 I did.

02:22:49.920 On abortion.

02:22:50.780 What's my position?

02:22:51.440 Oh, go ahead.

02:22:52.340 Then are you pro-life or pro-choice?

02:22:54.940 Uh, well, you know, it's really hard to say on that one.

02:22:57.160 I would say, uh, say if you support women's autonomy, I would, I would say that, uh, there

02:23:03.900 are very compelling arguments for the pro-life side.

02:23:06.080 So I'll, I'll go ahead and I'll just go ahead and say, yeah, pro-life.

02:23:08.960 However, what I am going to say is I would say that if I'm looking at the current state

02:23:14.200 of affairs descriptively, there are states where women retain the right to have an abortion.

02:23:19.480 For example, California, women can have an abortion in the state of California.

02:23:23.100 Yes.

02:23:23.680 My argument from men's rights perspective is in any state, because I'm just working with

02:23:29.420 like within the current system, right?

02:23:30.920 So it would be a fair proposition.

02:23:33.420 If abortion was completely outlawed, then yes. 0.63

02:23:38.240 If a man gets a woman pregnant, despite him not wanting to be a father, he's on the hook 0.99

02:23:42.620 for child support.

02:23:43.900 Sure.

02:23:44.380 But in states where women secure the right and retain the right to have an abortion, 0.99

02:23:50.040 men should have a corresponding right to, uh, called legal paternal surrender.

02:23:55.500 Men, in the same way that women can murder their unborn children, men should be able to 1.00

02:23:59.820 walk away and essentially sever their relationship if they so choose.

02:24:05.160 They shouldn't, obviously they can't force the woman to get an abortion, but in states where 1.00

02:24:09.140 there's abortion rights, men should have some corresponding legal paternal surrender where 0.66

02:24:13.060 they can say, well, I don't want to be a father.

02:24:15.560 I don't want the paternal responsibility.

02:24:17.680 I don't want to be financially responsible in the same way you would probably say a woman 1.00

02:24:21.540 who doesn't, isn't ready to be a mother or isn't financially ready to raise a child.

02:24:25.880 You would say that would be a justified reason to have an abortion. 1.00

02:24:28.440 So too, should it be the case that men should be able to escape, uh, responsibility, uh, from

02:24:34.920 child support or any sort of paternal responsibility.

02:24:37.840 Yeah.

02:24:38.540 I think gender specific laws, um, like you're suggesting that men have to take care of a 1.00

02:24:44.540 child that they maybe don't want because the woman wants it, um, is unfair.

02:24:49.120 Sure.

02:24:49.880 Can I add something?

02:24:50.900 Sure.

02:24:51.440 Uh, I think we've, we've come to a point in society where nobody wants to take responsibility

02:24:55.340 for their actions.

02:24:56.240 And every time you have sex, no matter what contraceptive you're on, they're not all 100%.

02:25:01.760 You are risking a possible pregnancy.

02:25:04.680 So every time you have sex, you have to be okay with the fact that there's, you know,

02:25:10.080 a five to 10% chance that I could get pregnant having sex.

02:25:14.540 But the problem is nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions.

02:25:17.160 So everyone's using abortion as birth control, right?

02:25:19.460 And I don't even agree with the fact that a father should be able to walk away from a

02:25:23.920 mom and let her struggle and be a single mom and not pay child support. 1.00

02:25:27.500 I think when you, when you take that action, when you have sex, you should therefore have 0.99

02:25:32.160 the responsibility of that child because your actions have consequences.

02:25:36.060 You don't believe in abortion?

02:25:38.020 No, I don't believe in abortion.

02:25:39.700 But like, what if it's the eptopic?

02:25:41.940 Like when two people have sex, there is always a percentage of-

02:25:44.860 You're assuming a risk, no matter what.

02:25:46.680 Yeah, you're assuming a risk.

02:25:47.700 But if you simply don't have the resources to take care of a child-

02:25:51.100 Then you make it work.

02:25:52.160 You sacrifice.

02:25:53.000 Really?

02:25:53.600 But what if that child has a terrible life?

02:25:55.340 Exactly.

02:25:56.020 And what if the baby daddy is like actually criminally horrible?

02:25:59.840 Wouldn't a terrible- 0.52

02:26:00.920 Wouldn't it be worse to murder the child than to give it a chance at life?

02:26:03.980 How is it murdering if it's like in the beginning stages of the-

02:26:09.320 It's a life.

02:26:09.920 You believe like life begins to-

02:26:12.320 Kids can have bad lives with moms and dads too.

02:26:15.440 It just depends on how you want to treat your kids, man. 1.00

02:26:18.360 You got, you got moms and dads that are married and they treat their kids like shit. 1.00

02:26:22.340 So if a kid turns out bad, well, it can be a lot of factors, but you don't have to keep it. 1.00

02:26:27.980 Let me give an example for you.

02:26:29.140 So I had a friend, this man who got her pregnant, told her she was gonna be a terrible mother.

02:26:34.160 She was not gonna be a terrible mother.

02:26:36.180 He just like totally brought her down.

02:26:38.020 He said he didn't want to be in the child's life.

02:26:40.540 He basically forced her to get an abortion. 1.00

02:26:42.860 Like, what do you say in that circumstance?

02:26:44.680 So he can't force a woman to get an abortion? 0.72

02:26:47.400 He basically did.

02:26:48.520 He said, yeah, I don't want to be part of the child's life.

02:26:50.140 I'm not gonna be a part of this.

02:26:51.660 Like, so what do you say to that girl that has no means-

02:26:53.540 So he didn't force her.

02:26:54.360 He's just saying, I'm not gonna pay for it.

02:26:55.660 What do you say to a girl that has no means to provide for that child who would like-

02:26:59.660 I say you figure it out.

02:27:01.600 So do you have a two-parent household?

02:27:04.200 What do you mean?

02:27:04.800 Like my parents?

02:27:05.140 Do you have a mom and dad?

02:27:06.000 I do.

02:27:06.740 So you don't understand because you have not been in that circumstance.

02:27:11.060 Poverty is also a cycle.

02:27:12.280 So if you already lack resources and you feel like you can't take care of a child, you have

02:27:17.160 a child.

02:27:17.560 There are over 3,000 pregnancy resources in America.

02:27:21.180 There's over 3,000 pregnancy resources.

02:27:23.480 We live in such an individualistic society where everybody is like, oh my gosh, what's

02:27:27.660 going to happen to me?

02:27:28.520 Like, we live in a really selfish society.

02:27:30.960 So when someone gets pregnant and there's like, oh, well, I can't financially afford this 0.99

02:27:34.600 child.

02:27:35.400 I can't take responsibility for my actions. 1.00

02:27:37.800 So I'm just going to kill it. 1.00

02:27:39.300 But you're giving the child a worse life by killing it than bringing it into this world 1.00

02:27:43.360 and figuring it out.

02:27:44.900 Most children that come out of that type of circumstance don't really have a great grand

02:27:50.660 life.

02:27:50.900 I would love to see a statistic on that.

02:27:52.360 I don't have a statistic.

02:27:53.540 I have friends that come from that circumstance.

02:27:55.920 And I feel like you have it.

02:27:57.180 Like, where were you raised?

02:27:58.960 Why does that matter?

02:27:59.980 Because it does matter.

02:28:00.860 You're a part of-

02:28:01.240 No, no, no.

02:28:01.860 You're trying to be condescending because I grew up-

02:28:04.260 Oh, it's not condescending, baby.

02:28:04.820 Yeah, it is.

02:28:05.380 It's just straight up forward.

02:28:06.480 Do you know who gets the most abortions? 1.00

02:28:09.300 So what's your statistic?

02:28:10.320 I'd love to hear.

02:28:10.980 Yeah, disenfranchised- 0.52

02:28:11.620 Black women. 1.00

02:28:12.000 Yes, disenfranchised- 0.99

02:28:12.680 And they get them over and over again as birth control.

02:28:14.820 Yes, because of lack of education and resources.

02:28:17.380 Lack of education.

02:28:18.080 Everybody knows sex produces a child. 0.99

02:28:20.160 That is like-

02:28:20.760 I knew that at five years old.

02:28:22.540 Yes. 0.79

02:28:22.940 If I have sex, I'm going to- 0.87

02:28:23.900 I'm glad you knew that, that you were well-educated on sex and reproduction. 0.88

02:28:28.540 Well-educated?

02:28:29.800 Education systems are based on-

02:28:31.080 The funding is based on property taxes.

02:28:33.300 So if you live in Section 8 or lower-income housing, your schooling isn't funded as much.

02:28:38.940 I didn't learn sex from school.

02:28:39.780 And our liberal places have the most money. 0.98

02:28:41.600 What did you learn sex from? 0.99

02:28:41.980 I'd love to know. 0.80

02:28:42.960 I thought liberal places, liberal passions have the most money. 0.99

02:28:45.580 But we have a two-party household?

02:28:46.480 Yeah, a lot of people don't come from a two-party household.

02:28:48.620 Exactly.

02:28:48.700 They come from broken families, and that's like the majority. 1.00

02:28:51.860 So you're saying-

02:28:52.620 That's why poverty is a cycle. 1.00

02:28:53.120 So you're saying they should kill their child if they can't- 0.98

02:28:55.300 It's not killing. 0.80

02:28:55.920 I don't believe it's murder.

02:28:56.880 It's not murder if it's in the beginning stages.

02:28:58.800 How is it not murder?

02:28:59.500 Because life doesn't begin at conception.

02:29:01.100 Yes, it does.

02:29:01.460 Period.

02:29:02.140 Science has proven that.

02:29:03.160 The Bible proves it. 0.98

02:29:04.200 The Bible.

02:29:05.200 We're not debating the Bible.

02:29:06.280 We're not in a religious debate, baby.

02:29:08.200 It doesn't matter.

02:29:09.340 I think that six weeks is the first time that the nerve-

02:29:11.460 We're just having a conversation that's non-biblical.

02:29:15.000 You know, there is a life that happens when the sperm meets the egg.

02:29:18.280 If actually anybody wants to find out if life happens, it actually-

02:29:22.160 And you know what?

02:29:22.960 A woman can feel it. 1.00

02:29:24.260 I know I felt it when I got pregnant with my daughter.

02:29:26.660 And why?

02:29:27.100 It's because it's calcium sulfate mixed with magnesium.

02:29:30.520 Okay.

02:29:30.980 I feel when a guy nuts in me.

02:29:32.480 Does that mean it's conception?

02:29:33.640 The egg, the ovum, is the calcium sulfate.

02:29:35.960 And the sperm is the magnesium. 0.89

02:29:38.000 I feel when a guy nuts in my mouth. 0.86

02:29:39.480 Is that conception? 0.87

02:29:40.960 I literally feel when a guy-

02:29:42.100 You're just being raunchy.

02:29:43.560 It's not raunchy.

02:29:44.880 It's just like, it's straight up.

02:29:46.120 I think you're very like-

02:29:47.520 The mouth is a sin.

02:29:48.300 I don't think calcium and magnesium combining-

02:29:50.420 And it does.

02:29:51.160 It creates a bang in the uterus. 1.00

02:29:53.940 It does.

02:29:54.580 A light.

02:29:54.980 Of conception.

02:29:55.740 Yes, it does.

02:29:56.680 It's called the zinc spark.

02:29:57.800 Yes.

02:29:58.240 And you can feel it.

02:29:59.600 Some women feel it. 1.00

02:30:00.400 I will agree with what you said about the environment at home not being right to bring a child into 1.00

02:30:07.860 the world.

02:30:08.380 I do agree with that.

02:30:09.400 Yeah.

02:30:09.820 But we do have the option.

02:30:11.660 And granted, I think I used to have a different view.

02:30:14.560 But, and I used to believe the way you did.

02:30:18.180 So, oh, it's not a baby yet.

02:30:19.320 But, but I believe, but I believe differently now.

02:30:24.740 And, and yes, it may be not desirable to carry a baby around for nine, 10 months, but

02:30:30.820 you do have the option of giving that baby up for adoption.

02:30:34.240 I don't think that's the argument that I'm making.

02:30:36.100 We can come back to it.

02:30:36.920 Yeah, yeah, of course.

02:30:37.320 We can come back to it later, time permitting.

02:30:39.520 Really quick, some chats.

02:30:40.620 And I think we're going to get Andrew here in just a moment.

02:30:42.280 Kat Spencer, that with a hundred British pounds. 0.99

02:30:45.660 Thank you.

02:30:46.380 Or wait, is that the, yeah.

02:30:47.880 Okay.

02:30:48.380 I'd like to remind women that men made laws to protect them. 1.00

02:30:50.940 And those lucky enough to be born in the West should be grateful.

02:30:54.580 It doesn't follow Abrahamic law.

02:30:56.480 Feminism exists because men allow it. 1.00

02:30:59.900 From Kat.

02:31:01.100 Spencer, thank you for your super chat.

02:31:03.000 Appreciate it very much.

02:31:03.920 Then we have Chef Dill Pickles here.

02:31:06.700 Uh-oh.

02:31:08.120 Chef Dill Pickles donated $200.

02:31:11.420 Life begins at conception.

02:31:13.340 Cope harder.

02:31:14.640 Cope harder.

02:31:15.440 Cope harder.

02:31:16.400 I love that word.

02:31:17.300 Harder.

02:31:17.600 I love it.

02:31:18.980 Wait, where is it?

02:31:20.560 I like beer league.

02:31:21.620 Cooers. 1.00

02:31:22.440 She was a whore. 1.00

02:31:23.500 Yes. 1.00

02:31:23.960 B, she was a whore. 1.00

02:31:25.660 Yep. 1.00

02:31:25.960 That's true.

02:31:26.500 All right.

02:31:27.080 Thank you for that, Chef Dill Pickles.

02:31:28.980 Good to see you in the chat, man.

02:31:30.980 He has a follow-up.

02:31:32.160 And he says, Chair 2, what substance are you on tonight?

02:31:37.440 I'm on life, baby.

02:31:38.760 This is me all day, every day.

02:31:40.640 Anxiety.

02:31:41.600 Anxiety.

02:31:42.620 It's, I have, like, the most high, strong anxiety.

02:31:47.740 Okay.

02:31:48.180 But if you were wondering, it's Lalo.

02:31:49.500 No preservatives.

02:31:50.480 No additives.

02:31:51.260 We don't do tequila that has chemicals in it.

02:31:54.040 Gross.

02:31:54.500 Word. 0.98

02:31:55.660 Okay. 1.00

02:31:57.180 Klain, Chair 1 is a victim of idiocy, also a victim of woke culture. 1.00

02:32:01.060 Chair 2 has an obvious. 1.00

02:32:03.340 I do.

02:32:04.240 Oh, my God.

02:32:04.600 I have an oral fixation.

02:32:06.120 Thank you, baby.

02:32:07.960 Klain.

02:32:08.320 Okay.

02:32:08.680 Chair 2.

02:32:09.120 Klain, slide into my DMs.

02:32:10.340 Or Chair 7, love your arguments.

02:32:12.040 Where is Andrew?

02:32:12.840 Needs some more decent arguments.

02:32:14.600 He's, I think we're going to get him pulled up here in just a moment.

02:32:17.300 Hey, you.

02:32:18.000 Thank you, Klain.

02:32:18.680 You, honestly, you're valid.

02:32:19.820 Thank you, thank you.

02:32:21.460 And let's see here.

02:32:23.760 Well, Chair 7, you're married.

02:32:26.140 Yeah.

02:32:26.820 But she has a book, too.

02:32:27.720 But she's a psychiatrist. 0.74

02:32:29.240 She's, like, an actual therapist.

02:32:30.880 Oh, okay.

02:32:31.400 I thought he was hitting on you, but no, he was just saying he loves your arguments.

02:32:34.640 Thank you.

02:32:35.120 I appreciate it.

02:32:35.980 All right.

02:32:36.420 She has a book, too, everybody.

02:32:37.700 Check out her book.

02:32:38.700 Thanks, girl. 0.89

02:32:40.240 All right.

02:32:40.800 I'm going to go back there in just a sec.

02:32:44.000 Wait, Felicia, are you able to just take my seat for a moment while I, oh, you're getting

02:32:47.980 some water?

02:32:48.460 Okay.

02:32:48.700 Where are you going, Brian?

02:32:49.360 Once you're back, I'll have you just take my seat, and then we'll get Andrew pulled up.

02:32:53.620 Andrew, thank you.

02:32:54.380 I'm going to have to use the restroom before, Andrew.

02:32:55.780 I'm scared.

02:32:56.800 I, like, actually have a general idea.

02:32:58.000 Just wait, though.

02:32:58.720 Somebody's there.

02:32:59.660 Of course.

02:33:00.080 Of course.

02:33:00.300 Thanks for the soup chat.

02:33:01.260 Appreciate it.

02:33:01.660 Appreciate it.

02:33:02.480 Here, while I'm just waiting on that, let me see if there's anything we needed to get

02:33:06.500 into here.

02:33:08.500 I'll do one quick note before we get Andrew pulled up.

02:33:12.160 What is it?

02:33:13.720 Actually, we'll come back to it.

02:33:15.560 Okay, guys, if you can talk amongst yourselves.

02:33:18.240 I don't know if you had another question for them.

02:33:20.880 I mean, I just want to keep going on the abortion argument. 0.98

02:33:23.620 Oh, we're going to keep going?

02:33:24.800 Well, I don't think we ever got to, like, a conclusion.

02:33:27.240 I don't think there's ever, like, an actual conclusion with the abortion argument because

02:33:31.480 there's such a differentiation or whatever, like, between, is that the word, differentiation?

02:33:36.260 So I'm not really going to...

02:33:37.140 We're never going to agree on it.

02:33:38.820 Yeah, no, yeah, of course.

02:33:39.900 Yeah, yeah.

02:33:41.100 There's a lot of...

02:33:41.660 Have you had an abortion before?

02:33:43.320 No. 1.00

02:33:43.760 I'm fucking with you. 1.00

02:33:44.360 I know you haven't. 1.00

02:33:45.060 Have you?

02:33:45.540 No, I've not.

02:33:46.220 But I have friends who have, and they were in really bad circumstances.

02:33:50.060 And, like, I saw from their perspective what they went through.

02:33:53.460 And before, I had a different viewpoint.

02:33:57.360 And then I saw what they went through.

02:33:58.440 I was like, wow.

02:33:59.100 Like, I understand now.

02:34:01.540 There's...

02:34:01.980 Do they regret their abortions?

02:34:03.420 No.

02:34:03.780 Why would they regret it?

02:34:04.700 Because 90% of women regret their abortions.

02:34:07.120 No.

02:34:07.620 The baby, like, it was not going to have a good life.

02:34:11.500 Like, the baby was not.

02:34:12.520 How would you know that, though? 1.00

02:34:13.280 We just kill it. 1.00

02:34:14.020 We just murdered. 0.99

02:34:14.340 How would you know it doesn't have a good life?

02:34:15.800 Like, you can't just eliminate their life based on chance.

02:34:18.440 Have you had an abortion?

02:34:19.840 No.

02:34:20.280 Do you know anyone who has?

02:34:21.660 Everybody...

02:34:22.140 Yes.

02:34:22.280 I actually do know somebody.

02:34:23.620 Raise your hand if you've had an abortion.

02:34:25.300 Yeah, let's raise your hand.

02:34:26.560 Brian, how many have you had to cover the cost of?

02:34:30.940 I don't know.

02:34:32.040 Brian, have you?

02:34:34.660 Have I been pregnant?

02:34:35.820 Yes.

02:34:36.000 Yes.

02:34:36.340 Have you been pregnant, Brian?

02:34:37.560 I just want to say there's a lot of discourse in academia of how much we should consider morality

02:34:45.820 and religion when it comes to creating or having these discussions, but when it comes

02:34:50.860 particularly to creating policy.

02:34:53.520 So these conversations are important because there are people who believe there is religious

02:34:57.660 backing and moral backing to why there should be a law or there's other people who believe... 0.99

02:35:02.960 And let's look at who's making these stupid ass bag policies in Washington right now. 1.00

02:35:07.880 Yeah, no. 1.00

02:35:08.500 I wouldn't trust any of these fuck bags making fucking policy at all. 1.00

02:35:12.080 That's not funny. 1.00

02:35:12.760 At all.

02:35:14.040 At all.

02:35:17.380 Abortion can damage your body, and I have a friend who had done it, and now she can't 1.00

02:35:22.680 have a baby at all.

02:35:23.860 How long did she wait to have the abortion? 1.00

02:35:26.980 I'm not sure, but she's had it like two times, and she can never have a baby at all, and she 0.63

02:35:31.320 wanted children.

02:35:32.780 Interesting.

02:35:33.100 So what do you have to say about that?

02:35:34.520 I wonder what the statistics are on how often someone becomes unable to bear children after

02:35:39.660 an abortion.

02:35:40.180 I also wonder where her health was before.

02:35:42.020 If it's a safe abortion, usually there's no issue with conceiving after.

02:35:46.180 I don't know the statistics, though.

02:35:48.040 I do think it's rare, but that is very sad.

02:35:50.320 Since I've had one, I will say I was very young.

02:35:53.220 Of course.

02:35:54.180 I was not in the position to...

02:35:56.740 I made bad decisions.

02:35:58.220 I chose to take the pill, go home, and pass it, and it was very traumatizing.

02:36:03.980 I bled everywhere, and it was gnarly.

02:36:06.980 I can't say that I regret it, because, again, some people maybe think that child would probably

02:36:15.620 not have a decent life, even though I would have made it work if I would have had it, but

02:36:20.320 I have had a child, and he's healthy, and it was just, you know, 20 years ago, it was

02:36:25.880 different, and it was just a decision, and I can't go back, and that's it.

02:36:30.460 Would you have changed your mind?

02:36:31.920 No regerts.

02:36:32.620 What?

02:36:32.940 You wouldn't have changed your mind if you were back then, like, knowing what you know

02:36:36.880 now?

02:36:37.240 No.

02:36:37.880 I don't...

02:36:38.560 I made a decision, and I stick with it, and that's...

02:36:41.620 It is what it is.

02:36:42.780 I can't go back.

02:36:42.940 That's how I feel.

02:36:43.460 I feel like when you make a decision, you make the decision.

02:36:45.640 You shouldn't, like...

02:36:47.040 I understand the morality of it.

02:36:48.980 Like, oh, no. 0.99

02:36:50.020 You're going to go to hell. 1.00

02:36:52.440 You're killing somebody, but... 0.99

02:36:54.340 But even if we take religion out of it, you were mentioning removing religion and morality

02:36:59.920 out of...

02:37:00.760 Andrews, you have to go pee. 0.95

02:37:02.020 Law?

02:37:02.320 Yeah.

02:37:02.680 Right?

02:37:02.860 Well, no, not removing it.

02:37:04.060 It's just there is conversation of how much of morality and religion should we consider

02:37:09.000 when we create policy.

02:37:10.360 But I think if we're not considering morality, then what are...

02:37:14.520 Why?

02:37:15.280 I mean...

02:37:15.380 No, we are.

02:37:16.080 It's just to what extent do we think, oh, what if this child cured cancer?

02:37:21.440 It's like that debate, whereas we could realistically look at the position the woman is in now and 0.98

02:37:27.440 if it would benefit her life or if it would benefit the child's life.

02:37:30.280 So it's just kind of this balance of morals and religion and literature and academia and

02:37:35.800 just having these discussions.

02:37:37.240 I think it's a balance.

02:37:38.180 I don't think we should remove morality.

02:37:40.240 I think there should just be a level of it to consider.

02:37:44.700 Now that I'm thinking about that, I guess I couldn't really pose that question because

02:37:48.580 I have other views that potentially would go against morality.

02:37:52.620 So I'm considering that.

02:37:54.080 Especially when it comes to, like, legalities in the court system.

02:37:56.320 It's so subjective.

02:37:57.020 Well, more so I'm thinking about crime and...

02:38:00.220 I don't think murder is subjective.

02:38:01.880 I think that's pretty, like...

02:38:03.080 Well, we have a different opinion on if it's murder.

02:38:05.220 Okay, so why, when a pregnant woman gets shot or killed, why is it a double homicide?

02:38:09.600 Because it wasn't her choice.

02:38:12.680 That literally makes no sense.

02:38:14.860 If she was trying to carry the child... 0.96

02:38:16.200 That literally makes no sense.

02:38:17.560 Well, if she wanted to carry that child to a human being, then yes, it is double homicide. 0.99

02:38:22.780 That's a good question.

02:38:23.560 Is that...

02:38:23.920 It's still...

02:38:24.640 But it's still, like, a child.

02:38:26.160 That's a good choice.

02:38:26.820 If she wanted to bear the child... 0.98

02:38:29.080 So what?

02:38:30.060 Well, she's... 0.99

02:38:30.480 To a human. 0.73

02:38:31.640 So if I think in my head about killing somebody, am I murdering them? 0.57

02:38:40.700 No.

02:38:41.960 Okay, no, right?

02:38:43.260 So if it's not a life by your standard, how could it be murder regardless of the intent?

02:38:48.300 If she was wanting to carry it...

02:38:49.860 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

02:38:50.200 So regardless of the intention of the mom, how in the world could it be murder just based

02:38:56.360 on her intention? 1.00

02:38:57.740 That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. 1.00

02:39:02.000 Can you explain that to me, please? 1.00

02:39:03.320 Like, use really small words.

02:39:05.660 If she was trying to carry that child to birth and that option was taken from her because

02:39:13.120 she was murdered and therefore it killed the baby, then that's a double homicide.

02:39:17.320 That's not a baby, though, by your standard, right?

02:39:18.940 I guess it depends when she was...

02:39:22.240 But again, it's a senseless murder.

02:39:24.660 And if she wanted to carry it to full term, then it would have been a child.

02:39:28.120 It would have been a baby by your standards, is that correct?

02:39:31.460 At what point?

02:39:32.740 Like six weeks, like four weeks?

02:39:34.280 Whatever the point is where you think it's not a baby.

02:39:36.180 If she hadn't decided to have an abortion and she wanted to carry that child... 1.00

02:39:40.260 Why is this for what her decision doesn't matter here?

02:39:42.740 We just have different opinions because I'm pro-choice.

02:39:44.780 No, there's no difference of opinion.

02:39:46.220 We're just doing a logical consistency check.

02:39:49.020 What's the cutoff for you?

02:39:50.300 When are you saying...

02:39:51.120 So, woman, right, whether or not it is the case that she wants to have the abortion or 0.91

02:39:57.520 not have the abortion, from your view, is that a baby or not a baby?

02:40:07.700 Do we have like the Jeopardy theme song?

02:40:09.820 I don't...

02:40:10.360 I just don't know how to answer your question, so...

02:40:12.980 Well, at what term do you think of an abortion?

02:40:15.520 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

02:40:17.420 Even if...

02:40:18.120 What do you mean you don't know how to answer the question?

02:40:20.040 Is the thing inside the woman's belly a baby or not? 0.99

02:40:26.440 So, even if she were murdered before what I consider to be a life of a child, which is...

02:40:33.100 I think legally it's like six weeks.

02:40:34.980 You can have an abortion if it's up to six weeks. 0.99

02:40:37.740 So, even if she were murdered at the three-week mark, the four-week mark, if her plan was to

02:40:43.240 carry that child and bear that child, then I do think, yes, that's the reason it's double 0.99

02:40:47.800 homicide.

02:40:47.920 That doesn't make any sense.

02:40:49.260 Is that child, from your view, an actual baby or not?

02:40:53.860 No, not before six weeks.

02:40:55.500 Then why would it be murder?

02:40:57.760 Because the senseless action, if that didn't happen, it would...

02:41:02.120 Yeah, she got murdered.

02:41:02.720 Yes, but if that didn't happen, she would have had a baby. 0.98

02:41:07.080 Okay, so you're just...

02:41:08.160 You're making a case against abortion.

02:41:09.820 If she hadn't had an abortion, she also would have had a baby, right? 1.00

02:41:12.400 So, she's a murderer, by your logic. 0.96

02:41:16.020 Okay.

02:41:19.200 Like, I don't know that.

02:41:20.040 That's your logic.

02:41:20.980 Like, so here's your logic.

02:41:22.940 If it is the case that the woman intended to have the baby, she would have had the baby. 1.00

02:41:26.220 Should I have the opinion that it shouldn't be a double... 0.97

02:41:28.420 If it is the case that, hang on, but if it is the case that the woman aborts the child 0.97

02:41:32.420 before it comes to term, then that's murder.

02:41:36.360 And we know it's murder because if she's murdered with the baby in her womb, even if it's before 0.59

02:41:42.300 when you consider it to be a baby, you consider that murder because the baby's not brought

02:41:46.060 all the way to term.

02:41:47.560 So, no matter what, from your view, abortion would be murder.

02:41:50.080 So, you think my stance should be that it shouldn't be considered a double homicide?

02:41:53.940 That would be me aligning with my own stance.

02:41:56.300 Yeah, that would be at least the consistent stance.

02:41:59.020 Sure, that would be the consistent stance, but I just think there's more nuance to it.

02:42:02.880 I think if it...

02:42:04.160 What's the nuance?

02:42:04.800 Like, how do you intend something to be alive or not?

02:42:07.820 It either is alive, and it is the thing, or it's not.

02:42:10.780 You don't...

02:42:11.220 Yeah, I think we just...

02:42:12.560 So, like, could I be like, you know, you killed the chair, you know?

02:42:17.100 Because my intention is that the chair is alive.

02:42:19.600 That's just...

02:42:20.140 That's not factual, though, right?

02:42:22.540 The chair isn't actually alive, so you can't murder the chair.

02:42:26.440 From your view, this is not a baby, so how could the guy be charged for two homicides?

02:42:31.160 That makes no sense.

02:42:32.040 I'll fix my stance and say that if it's after six weeks, then it should be a double homicide

02:42:38.420 charge.

02:42:39.380 If that makes you feel better about me having a consistent...

02:42:41.040 Should women be able to have abortions after six weeks? 1.00

02:42:44.680 You're asking if we should be able to have abortions past six weeks? 0.92

02:42:48.460 No.

02:42:48.860 So, now I'm changing my stance from the double homicide that if it's prior to six weeks,

02:42:54.200 if you want my argument to...

02:42:56.480 So, women should not be allowed to have abortions past six weeks? 1.00

02:43:01.960 That's a heavy debate, so I...

02:43:04.840 Well, no, it's just an internal...

02:43:06.860 In this case, it's just consistency.

02:43:08.300 Well, it's heavily debated at what point...

02:43:11.420 Because a lot of women don't know until the six-week mark, and then they don't have the 1.00

02:43:15.020 time to make a choice.

02:43:17.260 But, I mean, I'm not a biologist.

02:43:19.260 When you do, like, a meta thing, when you give commentary about the status of something,

02:43:25.240 it's kind of actually irrelevant to the question.

02:43:27.120 So, like, if I go, you know, how is the weather outside?

02:43:30.080 And you go, well, that's heavily debated.

02:43:32.100 It's like, I'm not asking...

02:43:32.880 Well, I'm letting you know that I don't have a specific opinion.

02:43:35.000 Hang on.

02:43:35.300 I'm not asking you what Jim, Paul, and Chuck think.

02:43:37.200 I'm asking you what you think, right?

02:43:39.060 So, is it murder after six weeks, or isn't it?

02:43:44.320 I don't necessarily have an opinion on that.

02:43:46.660 I think there's discrepancies.

02:43:48.000 You don't have an opinion.

02:43:48.300 Yeah, Brian didn't give his opinion on if he was pro-choice or pro-life.

02:43:51.340 He said both sides had, or pro-life had, a lot of information that he agreed with as

02:43:55.980 well.

02:43:56.460 So, I mean, you can hold double...

02:43:59.160 Yeah, I understand that's Brian's position.

02:44:01.860 Okay, in my position...

02:44:02.980 But when you make a stance that you say something is murder, then you're giving us a value for

02:44:07.720 life.

02:44:08.740 So, if that's the case, then you must think that there's value, that this is actual life

02:44:12.820 past six weeks, at least, right?

02:44:15.580 Sure.

02:44:15.980 Yeah, so, I mean, if that's the case, then you would at least have to admit that if a 0.91

02:44:20.140 woman has an abortion after the six-week mark, she is actually killing a baby. 0.97

02:44:24.100 Yes, I think there's scientific backing that life begins at around six weeks because of

02:44:31.140 neurons or nerve endings or something like that.

02:44:33.640 I'm not...

02:44:34.160 Again, I'm not well-versed.

02:44:35.420 Yes, or something like that.

02:44:36.560 Yeah.

02:44:36.720 I get it.

02:44:37.320 I'm just not well-versed on this topic.

02:44:39.100 I just listen to the scientists and think if that's the cutoff that they think is allowable

02:44:45.780 and not extremely immoral, then so be it.

02:44:49.300 Well, scientists don't determine morality. 0.96

02:44:51.460 Yeah, I mean, it's just all opinions at the end of the day, but legally, it's the six-week

02:44:55.900 mark.

02:44:56.020 Yeah, so all scientific consensus is that life begins at conception.

02:45:00.460 That's not refutable.

02:45:02.060 That's a human life at conception.

02:45:03.600 I promise.

02:45:04.220 I'll tell you what.

02:45:05.060 I'll make a deal with you right now.

02:45:06.520 I'll bet you a hundred bucks.

02:45:07.240 If you look up right now, scientific consensus of when human life begins, it will say at

02:45:13.240 conception.

02:45:14.040 I'll bet you.

02:45:14.680 I'll bet you right now if you think I'm wrong.

02:45:16.540 I believe you.

02:45:17.180 I was just under the impression that that was a religious sentiment.

02:45:22.680 No, that's the scientific consensus is that human...

02:45:25.520 I mean, it would have to be, right?

02:45:27.800 That's when there's basically new DNA.

02:45:30.820 That would have to be categorized as human life.

02:45:33.480 So that's when scientists, via consensus, think human life begins.

02:45:37.240 Just saying.

02:45:40.740 But does that change your stance?

02:45:42.640 Not necessarily, because again, they have the six-week benchmark for some reason.

02:45:47.360 I think it's when the child at that point has more autonomy and ability than previously

02:45:58.580 before that makes it more lifelike.

02:46:00.300 Again, I don't know the science behind this.

02:46:02.840 I'm not the one to argue this point.

02:46:04.880 Well, there's no...

02:46:06.080 These are not scientific claims.

02:46:08.460 Like, the moral implications of abortion, those aren't questions that science can answer.

02:46:14.060 They could maybe give us an idea of when consciousness begins or when life begins or things like that,

02:46:18.500 but science isn't in the business of giving us any type of ought claims.

02:46:22.540 They're just only interested in descriptors, really.

02:46:24.800 But no, that doesn't change it.

02:46:27.040 This is how a thing works, right?

02:46:28.500 Like, science could tell us how a nuclear bomb works, but couldn't tell us when we're supposed to use one.

02:46:36.460 Welcome, Andrew.

02:46:37.560 Welcome.

02:46:38.080 Good to see you, man.

02:46:39.800 I'm going to let one chat come through, then we're going to get right into some really good stuff.

02:46:44.660 Klain, thank you for the $200.

02:46:46.640 Klain will make you $200.

02:46:49.040 I will never jump into your DMs.

02:46:51.840 I've tried to change a woman before. 1.00

02:46:54.380 Priscilla.

02:46:55.200 I can build a house, rebuild a car, cook, and fly jets.

02:46:59.280 I also open doors and pay for nights out.

02:47:01.760 Dot, I'm not taking on another project.

02:47:05.320 Yo, Klain, thank you for the TTS.

02:47:06.780 I really appreciate it.

02:47:08.080 Thank you, thank you.

02:47:08.720 All right, so, and Andrew, do you have a, what's your heart out for tonight?

02:47:14.360 Or you want to just go?

02:47:15.780 Well, I started late.

02:47:17.340 We'll just see how it goes.

02:47:18.360 Okay, sweet.

02:47:19.220 We'll see how it goes.

02:47:20.300 Since Andrew does have some limited time, though, there were two people on the panel who kind of wanted to, well, had perhaps specific notes for them.

02:47:29.220 So there's other things we're going to get to a little later on in the show, but we're going to focus on those for now.

02:47:34.900 I'm going to jump to you briefly because you wanted to specifically talk to Andrew.

02:47:38.720 But then, Jazz, you had some notes that were directed kind of at both me and Andrew.

02:47:43.560 So was it?

02:47:44.820 I won't remember mine off.

02:47:46.400 By the way, to the panel, it's nice to meet you all.

02:47:49.380 My name is Andrew Wilson.

02:47:50.200 Hi, Andrew.

02:47:51.720 You look very well-groomed tonight.

02:47:54.760 I was a little late because I was catching up on my beauty sleep.

02:47:59.800 As you can see, I definitely need more of that.

02:48:03.180 But that's why I was a little late.

02:48:04.600 You look great.

02:48:05.360 What are you talking about?

02:48:08.080 Agreed.

02:48:08.440 But I could look even greater.

02:48:09.760 He shaved his beard.

02:48:10.820 Yeah, you shaved it up.

02:48:11.860 You were looking a little rough last week on the debates.

02:48:15.860 Yeah, I was looking a little homeless.

02:48:17.000 I agree.

02:48:17.500 I wish you were here.

02:48:18.260 We would have had a shot together.

02:48:20.020 She brought tequila.

02:48:21.120 I know.

02:48:21.520 I was looking for it.

02:48:22.620 I genuinely thought you were going to be here. 1.00

02:48:24.120 I was like, fuck this. 1.00

02:48:24.400 No, it's like vodka next time. 1.00

02:48:25.920 No, I brought Lalo with no preservatives, additives.

02:48:29.780 All right.

02:48:30.160 So, Julie, you said that, let me see.

02:48:33.720 Let me look at the notes here.

02:48:34.440 I mean, I would have drank it.

02:48:35.300 I'm not going to lie.

02:48:35.860 I know you would have.

02:48:37.020 I would have had a shot.

02:48:38.180 I'm not.

02:48:38.280 You are low-key a degen just like I am, but not in like the extremity I am, but like in 0.99

02:48:42.740 other ways, the gluttonous way.

02:48:45.900 I'm not a glutton.

02:48:47.540 So, to drink to get drunk is gluttony.

02:48:51.800 I don't drink to get drunk.

02:48:53.140 I drink in celebratory, usually for the purpose of celebration, or sometimes it'll be to calm

02:48:58.840 my nerves or things like that, but I don't actually seek out drinking to get drunk, at

02:49:06.220 least not often.

02:49:07.340 Maybe if I'm at a friend's wedding or something like that, I'll be like, hey, we're going to

02:49:10.800 get wrecked tonight on a special occasion or something like that, but those are pardonable

02:49:15.960 sins.

02:49:16.280 I would argue because when you were here last, you're like, I need a shot. 0.99

02:49:19.400 When like the male feminist is sitting right here, you're like, I need a shot, Brian. 0.99

02:49:23.040 So like, no, you do need alcohol to cope.

02:49:25.620 You need alcohol to cope.

02:49:26.660 That's a form of gluttony. 1.00

02:49:27.820 That's overindulging.

02:49:28.920 So, but it's okay.

02:49:30.020 I, I'm a degenerate too.

02:49:31.420 So we're both in the same league.

02:49:33.020 We're besties.

02:49:34.040 We're kindred spirits.

02:49:35.440 We're like the same.

02:49:36.700 We're one of the same.

02:49:38.020 We're wrong.

02:49:38.840 So if I, if I, do you, do you know what people used to say in the 17, 1800s?

02:49:44.180 No, I wasn't around at that time.

02:49:45.800 What did they say?

02:49:46.860 Did you know, were you there?

02:49:47.640 I mean, I mean, you know that there's books from those times, right?

02:49:50.520 I'm sure you've never read one.

02:49:51.160 Yeah, but things have been, things have been written and rewritten all throughout history.

02:49:55.220 Yeah, I know.

02:49:55.620 But do you think that it's just one person who writes the book and nobody ever rewrote

02:49:59.380 the book? 1.00

02:49:59.880 No shit. 0.99

02:50:00.580 It was not one person. 0.99

02:50:01.980 Like what?

02:50:03.500 It wasn't just one person.

02:50:04.160 Do you know them?

02:50:04.620 Wait, can you?

02:50:05.260 Okay.

02:50:05.480 So what was your point?

02:50:06.440 I'd love to hear it.

02:50:07.180 My point is, is that sometimes people would drink alcohol to do what they called fortifying

02:50:11.600 themselves.

02:50:12.400 So it could be for any number of different reasons.

02:50:14.900 Sometimes it was especially helpful if you were working outside, it would take the tension

02:50:18.420 off.

02:50:18.800 If you had a quick drink or if you hadn't seen a friend for a long time, you'd have a

02:50:22.340 nip with your friend.

02:50:23.480 Things like this.

02:50:24.280 But in order to leave tension or one way that men often greet each other is to say,

02:50:29.960 hey, do you want to go have a beer?

02:50:31.560 Do you think that the church would consider it sinful to go have a beer with your friend?

02:50:36.040 So what my statement was saying is that when you were sitting here with a male feminist, 0.89

02:50:40.660 you were like, I need a drink for this.

02:50:42.400 I wouldn't categorize that as having a drink with the boys or having a drink to combat work

02:50:49.080 life.

02:50:49.960 That was you trying to compensate for...

02:50:52.720 I was not combating work life.

02:50:54.840 So you wouldn't claim that you're an alcoholic slightly?

02:50:57.480 I'm an alcoholic.

02:50:58.320 At least...

02:50:59.320 Hey, at least...

02:50:59.960 Of course I'm not an alcoholic.

02:51:01.160 Oh, I would argue the latter.

02:51:04.940 We're both alcoholics.

02:51:07.220 We're one and the same.

02:51:08.160 I'm just trying to...

02:51:09.140 We're together in this.

02:51:10.260 Ladies, stop filibustering me and listen to me. 1.00

02:51:12.260 What does that mean?

02:51:13.920 Alcoholics are dependent on alcohol to function.

02:51:17.600 You don't think you are?

02:51:18.360 You had to function...

02:51:19.760 You had to depend on it to function with the male feminist. 1.00

02:51:22.740 Stop spurging, lady. 0.99

02:51:24.200 You couldn't even deal with him sober.

02:51:26.700 Stop spurging, lady. 0.99

02:51:27.800 Let me finish what I'm saying.

02:51:29.120 Okay, you're right.

02:51:30.020 I literally go for months without having a drink.

02:51:33.220 Months and months.

02:51:34.480 I do it all the time.

02:51:35.620 Okay, I didn't see it here.

02:51:38.100 So what?

02:51:38.900 I had a drink in the studio?

02:51:40.280 Oh my God.

02:51:40.960 I'm just arguing that you partake in gluttony.

02:51:44.180 So you can't come back at people saying abortion is wrong when you literally come into the seven sins, the deadly sins or whatever you pertain to the Bible.

02:51:58.220 Yeah, light that surrogate, baby. 0.99

02:51:59.600 I wish I had a joint with me. 1.00

02:52:00.960 Fuck, shit. 1.00

02:52:01.600 We can get... 1.00

02:52:02.820 Yes.

02:52:03.620 Honestly, I wish you were here.

02:52:04.620 We can take a shot together.

02:52:05.480 Andrew, love you.

02:52:06.240 All right, let's get into the substance.

02:52:09.040 Hang on.

02:52:09.680 I'm not done, actually.

02:52:10.500 Oh, okay.

02:52:11.440 All right.

02:52:11.780 You want to...

02:52:12.280 Let's go, Andrew.

02:52:13.520 Come on.

02:52:14.220 I'll sit here and try to calculate how many shots of alcohol I've ever taken if you tell 1.00

02:52:18.660 us how many dicks you've had to suck in your mouth. 1.00

02:52:20.200 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:52:20.860 I love a dick in my mouth. 1.00

02:52:22.620 How many? 1.00

02:52:23.880 How many?

02:52:25.280 I can't tell you how many have you had.

02:52:27.600 You don't remember, do you?

02:52:29.000 Do you remember yours?

02:52:30.960 I don't remember how many shots I've had in my life.

02:52:33.660 No, I'm not talking about shots.

02:52:34.600 If you think if I say to a woman... 1.00

02:52:35.660 How many vagina holes have you put your dick inside of? 1.00

02:52:39.480 Wait, I have a question. 1.00

02:52:41.340 Hold on, hold on.

02:52:42.000 What is your body count, Andrew?

02:52:43.500 I would love to know.

02:52:44.760 Please don't.

02:52:46.340 So anyway, so again, real quick, I'm trying to dive into this.

02:52:50.260 Okay, okay, let's go.

02:52:51.240 Is it the case that if I told a woman I don't remember how many shots I've had in my life,

02:52:56.000 that she's going to respond to that the same way a man will respond if you say, 0.99

02:52:59.420 I don't remember how many dicks I've sucked in my life? 1.00

02:53:01.800 What is that? 0.99

02:53:02.280 Wait, hold on.

02:53:02.780 Say it again.

02:53:03.360 That was like said really weird.

02:53:05.360 I'm sorry.

02:53:05.960 Do you think?

02:53:06.720 I'm neurodivergent slightly.

02:53:08.200 I'm sorry.

02:53:09.560 Yeah, do you think that me telling a woman I don't remember how many shots I've taken in

02:53:13.460 my life, that she would take that and respond to it a lot better than you telling a man 1.00

02:53:17.460 you don't remember how many dicks you've sucked in your life? 1.00

02:53:20.200 Well, it's two different species of male and female, so like... 1.00

02:53:24.160 It's two different species, huh?

02:53:25.680 Yeah, I agree.

02:53:26.840 Male and female are two different species. 0.99

02:53:29.000 Completely.

02:53:30.140 Well, you didn't think that one through, did you?

02:53:31.860 No, I didn't.

02:53:32.640 But I've seen your arguments.

02:53:34.340 I'm 100% positive.

02:53:35.640 Hey, Andrew, you...

02:53:37.340 Hey, Andrew, you have argued that male and female are two different species, so don't ever...

02:53:42.040 No, I've never argued that males and females are two different species. 1.00

02:53:45.260 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:53:45.800 Okay, maybe I heard your argument wrong. 1.00

02:53:47.660 Shit, I fucked it up. 1.00

02:53:48.460 My bad. 1.00

02:53:49.500 Two different species?

02:53:51.200 Genders.

02:53:51.800 Like, men and women are like dogs and humans?

02:53:55.000 Like, what are you...

02:53:55.700 Dogs and cats. 1.00

02:53:56.460 No, I've never made an argument that we're a different species because I'm not fucking stupid. 1.00

02:54:03.360 Oh, so you think women are stupid? 1.00

02:54:05.700 Not women, but one woman I'm talking about. 1.00

02:54:07.760 Oh, you think I'm stupid? 1.00

02:54:09.760 Lovely. 1.00

02:54:10.400 Well, at least one woman.

02:54:11.060 So, all right. 1.00

02:54:12.820 Pluralistic, like, if you say, that woman over there is stupid, she's like, so you think all women are stupid? 1.00

02:54:17.640 Does that even make sense? 1.00

02:54:18.860 I never...

02:54:19.460 I never proclaim to be smart. 0.99

02:54:21.940 Am I saying right there, I'm the smartest bitch at this table? 1.00

02:54:24.940 No. 0.99

02:54:25.520 Like, I've acknowledged that I'm neurodivergent, so you're basically mocking my, like, lack of brain cells.

02:54:34.280 Neurodivergent means you have a lack of brain cells?

02:54:36.460 I have a lack of working brain cells, yes.

02:54:39.560 I agree.

02:54:40.300 Thank you.

02:54:40.840 All right, I'm glad you guys common ground there.

02:54:44.080 I love the common ground spectrum.

02:54:46.140 That was good.

02:54:46.560 Love you.

02:54:46.840 All right, we're going to get into some substance here, so let's see here.

02:54:54.620 We'll do a few from you, Julie, then we'll come back to them later because I think we're going to...

02:55:00.300 Jazz and Andrew are going to square up a little bit.

02:55:04.180 So, okay.

02:55:05.880 And, Andrew, these are Julie's notes.

02:55:08.300 We're going to try to move through these ones quickly so we can't linger too long on them.

02:55:11.660 But, Julie, you said, staying in marriage for kids, women can't have sex when they don't love the other person. 1.00

02:55:17.320 You can't. 1.00

02:55:18.020 Men need sex. 1.00

02:55:18.880 Furthermore, men will sacrifice everything for their family. 1.00

02:55:21.660 Women are generally not capable of doing so despite trying. 1.00

02:55:25.280 Do you want to elaborate on that a bit?

02:55:26.700 Sure.

02:55:27.040 So, obviously, there's a bunch of tangents there.

02:55:29.540 But I know I've listened to you before and you've spoken about people staying in marriages, right, kind of just working through everything.

02:55:40.900 I mean, so one of the questions I have for you is, for example, if a woman, if there's, say, for the fact that they didn't get along without going into detail.

02:55:55.660 So, over several years, they didn't really get along and eventually that caused distress for the woman to where she fell out of love.

02:56:05.020 I think for a lot of women, or at least for me, I can't have sex with someone if I'm not in love with them, right? 0.98

02:56:13.080 And I think that men need sex. 0.95

02:56:16.120 I think it's just innate. 0.76

02:56:18.300 It's natural.

02:56:18.980 Nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

02:56:20.720 So, do you think it can still work through that?

02:56:23.480 Can they move beyond that?

02:56:28.100 I probably didn't explain that very well, but.

02:56:31.980 Sorry, are you asking me?

02:56:33.600 Yes.

02:56:34.040 Yeah, it's for you, Andrew.

02:56:35.980 Okay, so let me make sure I get a couple things clear just to make sure I got it right.

02:56:40.960 When you say that you can't have sex with anybody unless you're in love with them, right, does this mean that if you found a man to be extremely attractive that you would just be unable to have sex with him?

02:56:51.580 Let me go back.

02:56:52.660 So, in the beginning stages of a relationship, when two people are very attracted to each other, I would agree that there's still some element of waiting.

02:57:02.480 But when you get to that point at which you have these strong feelings for another person, right, so there's that at that point at which you can be intimate with someone, right?

02:57:12.460 And then, obviously, you fall in love and so on and so forth.

02:57:17.120 So, I do agree that there's that initial piece when you're in the initial stages.

02:57:22.740 But beyond that.

02:57:23.960 You mean the attraction piece?

02:57:27.320 Right, right.

02:57:28.200 Like, if I went out and was really attracted to someone, I still can do it.

02:57:33.480 I have to have feelings involved.

02:57:37.620 Okay.

02:57:37.780 Rather serious feelings before I can do that.

02:57:41.340 So, once you get into a marriage and you've been together for years, and I'm not just asking for myself, I'm just asking in general for many people because I think there's a lot of marriages where that's the case.

02:57:52.940 I think, more so, it's challenging for men.

02:57:57.100 So, how do you think that works?

02:57:59.720 What's the challenge for men?

02:58:00.500 Or, I guess, two pieces.

02:58:02.200 And I apologize for being all over the place.

02:58:04.960 Yeah, yeah.

02:58:05.240 No problem.

02:58:06.080 Go ahead.

02:58:06.100 How does a man stay in a marriage for years and years, potentially, without receiving sex from his wife? 0.92

02:58:13.300 And then, I guess, the other part that I didn't ask was, how does women have a harder time, I think, hiding or faking emotions to look happy for the children?

02:58:22.840 Because, ultimately, it's necessary, right?

02:58:25.880 You don't want your children growing up with people that are unhappy, who are unhappy.

02:58:31.160 So, how do you, in your eyes, how do you make that work?

02:58:36.740 Like, what does that look like to you?

02:58:37.980 And I'm only asking because I've been listening to several conversations on the podcast.

02:58:40.700 Yeah, yeah.

02:58:41.000 So, from which of you?

02:58:42.400 From both, I guess.

02:58:44.960 Yeah.

02:58:45.440 How would this work from the Christian view, or how would this work from the non-Christian view?

02:58:52.300 Either way.

02:58:53.380 Either way.

02:58:54.180 Okay.

02:58:54.520 So, from the Christian view, she's not fulfilling her duties inside of the marriage.

02:59:01.020 And there would be probably ecclesiastical intervention from the priest and community to try to assist with whatever the problem is.

02:59:07.740 Maybe he's fat, or he stinks, or, you know, who knows what the actual issues are.

02:59:14.060 Or it could just be that she's no longer attracted to him. 0.96

02:59:17.760 There could be all sorts of various issues.

02:59:20.520 But, I mean, that would be how that would be dealt with.

02:59:23.200 It would be dealt with inside of the community.

02:59:24.920 And generally is, right?

02:59:27.300 Even people who seek marital help are basically doing the same thing.

02:59:30.200 They're looking for some kind of, like, third party or arbiter to a system with whatever those, you know, marital issues are.

02:59:37.820 So, I don't know if you're asking me something beyond that, you know, and I'm missing it.

02:59:44.960 No, I guess I'm just thinking of the greater good in certain circumstances, right?

02:59:51.440 Whether it's Christian or whether it's what's ideally best for children. 0.99

02:59:58.100 So, either way, it works.

03:00:00.560 I mean, it is best.

03:00:01.500 It is generally best for children, for their parents to stay together.

03:00:04.720 It's not monolithic.

03:00:06.040 There's obviously going to be some cases where that's not the case.

03:00:08.940 But overwhelmingly, it is the case where if the parents stay together, their children are definitely going to have way better outcomes.

03:00:17.340 So, ultimately, I mean, what if there isn't a way to work around that?

03:00:21.900 What if the woman has tried, you know, has done her best to do her duty?

03:00:28.120 You know, the thing is, is, like, this is an interesting question.

03:00:31.960 And I talk about this a lot with various people from all over the place.

03:00:37.460 But when I start to hone in on the specifics, because in this case, we're making, like, kind of a general statement.

03:00:43.820 It is generally true that if parents stay together, even if they, like, don't have that spark or whatever it is, it's probably going to be better for the children.

03:00:52.160 That is factually true.

03:00:55.240 But then the question is, like, what if it's the case that they just are so bad for each other that they can't make it work?

03:01:03.320 But any time we discuss it, I hone in on the specifics.

03:01:06.820 If there's not abuse or drug addiction or things like this, usually it's just one person's not trying at all.

03:01:13.940 They just don't want to participate in the relationship.

03:01:15.740 Can I pipe in on this real quick?

03:01:17.880 On this thing?

03:01:19.040 It's me.

03:01:20.920 I'm sure.

03:01:22.540 This whole stay together, you know, for the kids thing. 0.99

03:01:27.360 Kids are not stupid. 0.99

03:01:29.360 Okay? 0.99

03:01:29.860 That's the thing about parents and about adults.

03:01:32.680 They try to underestimate kids. 1.00

03:01:35.140 Kids are not fucking stupid. 1.00

03:01:37.080 They see and they know everything. 1.00

03:01:40.860 They hear everything. 1.00

03:01:41.860 They know when their parents are fucking in their beds. 1.00

03:01:44.680 Okay? 1.00

03:01:45.740 I know I did.

03:01:47.320 I could wake up at, you know, 2 o'clock in the morning and hear the waterbed sloshing.

03:01:51.900 I mean, that's how old I am.

03:01:53.040 I had a waterbed parents.

03:01:55.820 Remember waterbeds?

03:01:57.900 Yeah.

03:01:59.480 But don't stay together because of the kids.

03:02:02.480 No, because they know.

03:02:03.660 When you guys fight, they know when you guys are being fake.

03:02:06.140 And you know what?

03:02:06.780 That's not good psychologically for a child to know that you don't give love to your spouse.

03:02:13.300 You don't give love to the person you're supposed to love.

03:02:17.220 Okay?

03:02:17.520 The person that you conceived with to bring them in the world with.

03:02:21.600 And all of a sudden you don't. 1.00

03:02:23.240 And then you're just like acting like fucking roommates. 1.00

03:02:26.140 Are you kidding me? 1.00

03:02:27.440 You think a kid doesn't realize that?

03:02:30.340 Stop it.

03:02:31.100 So, I'll address kind of your arguments here.

03:02:34.880 I've heard them a million times from feminists. 1.00

03:02:36.500 And if it's because of child support payments, well, you know what?

03:02:39.080 Guess what? 0.99

03:02:40.020 You're going to pay fucking child support whether you like it or not. 0.99

03:02:43.260 So, I'll address everything you just said. 1.00

03:02:46.720 I've heard this a million times from feminists. 1.00

03:02:49.200 I'm not a feminist. 0.96

03:02:50.560 I don't like feminism. 1.00

03:02:51.800 And that's why where we are today with this bullshit gender bullshit because of feminism. 1.00

03:02:56.500 Do you remember how I didn't cut you off at all and let you finish your entire thing before I said anything? 0.99

03:03:01.320 Maybe you can do me the same courtesy.

03:03:02.700 Okay.

03:03:03.120 Thank you.

03:03:04.220 You're welcome.

03:03:05.960 Well, I don't know why you're thanking yourself and then welcoming yourself.

03:03:08.820 But anyway, in any case, back to this.

03:03:11.420 Sorry, not sorry.

03:03:12.300 Okay.

03:03:13.800 Okay. 0.99

03:03:14.340 So, anyway, the reason that these sorts of arguments don't hold up is because, first of all, children in their tender years don't really remember shit. 0.99

03:03:21.900 Right. 0.99

03:03:22.440 They don't.

03:03:23.320 That's called their formative years.

03:03:25.160 Yeah.

03:03:25.520 So, here's the thing.

03:03:26.800 When do they need the formulation of mom and dad the most?

03:03:30.940 Always.

03:03:31.680 Because always kids know when parents are being loving to each other.

03:03:35.420 Can you tell me what does the word most mean?

03:03:39.500 Do you know what that word means?

03:03:40.860 So, when do they need it the most?

03:03:42.300 Is the question I asked you.

03:03:43.840 Not, do they always need it?

03:03:46.220 But what would they need you? 0.98

03:03:46.580 Are you going to give me a fucking statistic on most, really? 0.99

03:03:49.640 I mean, a kid, when they see their parents together. 0.99

03:03:52.720 And when they see their parents loving everybody together.

03:03:55.900 Hang on.

03:03:56.160 Can you stop freaking out and just calm down for a second so I can ask the question?

03:04:00.220 I'm not freaking out. 0.99

03:04:01.960 I'm just answering the goddamn question. 0.97

03:04:03.940 So, anyway, if you had to pick a set of years in which were the most important years for a child, which years would you put those in? 0.99

03:04:13.260 Zero to five.

03:04:14.840 Formative years.

03:04:15.440 Okay, great.

03:04:16.160 Exactly.

03:04:16.740 The formative years.

03:04:17.640 There we go.

03:04:18.040 So, those would be the most important years.

03:04:18.760 So, if you don't show your wife or she don't show you love in those formative years, that kid is not going to know what love is.

03:04:26.100 Either if you show your kid love, they are not.

03:04:30.100 Yeah, so, I mean, how come all of the research on this is completely against you?

03:04:34.360 That even if it's the case, the case for abuse, especially for-

03:04:37.600 What research, Spock?

03:04:40.080 Dr. Spock? 1.00

03:04:42.120 Dr. fucking Spock? 0.99

03:04:43.980 Yeah, here's what you can find. 0.99

03:04:46.060 I mean, I understand that it's difficult for you because this morning was maybe the first time in weeks that you had to get off of your back.

03:04:54.020 But if you could just-

03:04:54.960 No, no, no, no.

03:04:56.920 No.

03:04:57.280 We can actually dive in. 0.99

03:04:58.220 I ain't had no fucking dick in about two and a half years, and that's not even the reason. 0.99

03:05:02.120 I don't even want it, man. 0.99

03:05:03.600 Yes, anyway.

03:05:04.640 So, the thing is, is like, if we look at the stats, yes, this is indeed the case, that it's cohabitation- 0.99

03:05:10.600 Epitome of my fucking misery is what y'all are. 0.99

03:05:13.360 Where you find the abuse. 1.00

03:05:14.740 I mean, I don't know.

03:05:15.400 I don't know.

03:05:15.940 Maybe you just don't want to have a conversation.

03:05:17.940 You just want to freak out.

03:05:19.560 Can I ask a question?

03:05:20.600 When you say that it's always better that the parents stay together, as long as there's no abuse or anything like that, better than-

03:05:29.100 Actually, actually, that's not what I said.

03:05:31.040 Okay.

03:05:32.100 I didn't say it's always better.

03:05:33.640 Clarify what you-

03:05:34.140 Hang on.

03:05:35.060 So, I get straw man constantly, and the reason is, is because, like, ladies I was just talking to, they can't be quiet long enough to listen to what I'm saying. 0.58

03:05:42.560 So, even though I-

03:05:43.420 I listen to you.

03:05:44.340 Even though I will listen to everything they just said, when I'm giving a response, they just can't even chill out for five seconds to even hear what I'm saying.

03:05:53.460 So, that's what happens is, people straw man me constantly.

03:05:56.480 I didn't actually say, in all cases, I wouldn't say that, because that would be a monolith.

03:06:02.140 I'm just saying that, generally, this is true.

03:06:04.120 Generally, okay.

03:06:04.660 In most cases, we could say, at least in most cases, this is true.

03:06:07.840 Generally, better than-

03:06:08.620 And there's that most thing that you were talking about again.

03:06:11.000 Okay, well, hold on.

03:06:11.780 I want to make a point.

03:06:12.560 So, better than-

03:06:13.340 Yeah, remember how I used that word in context, so it actually made sense?

03:06:16.160 Better than what?

03:06:17.240 Better than divorce across the board?

03:06:20.000 Better than a child living in two different homes?

03:06:22.640 It's not-

03:06:23.080 It's not-

03:06:23.520 Well, the conditional of divorce most often leads to cohabitation between you and somebody who's not the parent of your child.

03:06:31.340 And it's in the cohabitation where you see the largest forms of abuse, either from single mothers or from their partners.

03:06:37.560 You rarely see this type of abuse inside of homes where you have the biological father and the biological mother.

03:06:44.280 The abuse rates drastically decrease almost across the board, even if the parents report that they're not particularly happy in that marriage.

03:06:52.940 Would you say that's the same, that translates also to, like, having a stepchild where you have one non-parent and one non-parent?

03:07:02.840 Oh, yeah, well-

03:07:03.620 And then also a child that is in the marriage?

03:07:06.080 So, yeah, I'm a stepfather myself, so again, it's not monolithic, but it is the case, generally speaking, that you're going to see a whole hell of a lot more abuse of your children from step-parents than you are from their biological parents.

03:07:19.760 There's just no ifs, ands, or buts about that.

03:07:21.840 Every stat you'd ever look at would reaffirm that that's the case.

03:07:24.780 But cohabitation is where it's the most dangerous, and cohabitation, even for the unaliving of men, when they unalive themselves, those rates skyrocket during cohabitation as well, far less likely even than if you're divorced than if you're cohabitating to unalive yourself.

03:07:41.720 So, almost all of these, so if divorce generally leads to cohabitation, cohabitation, which means you're living with a person without marrying them, generally leads to these kind of wildly bad outcomes for people, then it would seem that keeping marriages intact would be a better idea for society.

03:07:57.800 Well, some of them have good outcomes.

03:08:00.560 What's that?

03:08:01.060 Some of them have good outcomes.

03:08:02.600 A lot of, I mean, there's a presumption here that divorce leads to cohabitation in abusive households. 0.91

03:08:09.100 There are a lot of divorces that result in two happy homes. 1.00

03:08:13.100 No, there's not.

03:08:13.880 Well, here's the thing.

03:08:15.260 There are cases where that is true, and I wouldn't dispute that again.

03:08:19.200 I'm not putting things in a monolith, but generally speaking, it is not actually good for the children to come from broken homes.

03:08:26.740 Most children from broken homes have way worse outcomes than children who are not in broken homes, and if children are raised in cohabitation homes, they have way worse outcomes.

03:08:37.300 In fact, you can look at things like, this one blew my mind.

03:08:43.580 If you have two parents who are abusive to their kids, and then the state comes in and removes those children from the abusive household, they're actually far, far more likely to die in state custody than if you had left them in the abusive home.

03:09:01.560 Well, yeah, because they've just been ripped away from their biological parents.

03:09:04.720 Abused in another foster home.

03:09:05.740 Well, right.

03:09:06.640 Right, but you see how divorce rips you away from your biological parents.

03:09:11.020 Well, it depends on the custody arrangement.

03:09:11.860 That's what happens.

03:09:13.160 Exactly.

03:09:14.440 Yeah, exactly, like you're saying.

03:09:16.180 It depends on the custody arrangement.

03:09:17.400 Exactly.

03:09:18.160 No, it doesn't depend.

03:09:19.760 If your mommy and daddy don't live with you anymore, right, you're ripped away from one of them or the other of them at any given time.

03:09:26.960 So if you're with mom for two weeks, and then you're with dad for two weeks, or you're with them every other week, right, you're missing time with one of them.

03:09:33.380 Necessarily, it's a necessary condition of divorce, you're ripped away from your parents.

03:09:37.500 Necessary condition.

03:09:39.100 There's no way around it.

03:09:40.160 For all cases, every single case, unless you were to have some bizarre case where the mom and dad divorce and then stay in the same home for the purpose of kids, that's happened before.

03:09:52.320 And those kids even seem to have better outcomes, which is interesting.

03:09:55.720 I do have to move, oh, sorry.

03:09:57.420 I don't think so, no.

03:09:58.640 I don't think so, no.

03:09:58.680 I don't think so, no.

03:09:59.400 I don't think so, no.

03:09:59.740 I don't think so.

03:10:00.180 Sorry.

03:10:02.120 Dear Granny, why are you so aggressive? 1.00

03:10:05.560 This toxic femininity is very dangerous. 1.00

03:10:08.260 A quick response.

03:10:08.920 Do you want to respond to that?

03:10:09.940 A granny? 1.00

03:10:11.280 I'm not a fucking granny, dude. 1.00

03:10:14.080 I've got a 15-year-old. 1.00

03:10:15.800 Who's a fucking granny around here? 1.00

03:10:19.280 Excuse you. 0.99

03:10:21.340 Sorry, Andrew, I thought you were, didn't mean to cut you off there, Andrew.

03:10:26.340 Do you want to finish your point, but then we'll move it on?

03:10:29.820 Yeah, I'm just saying, like, what so often happens is the some-all categorization, which is incorrect, and most people argue from this, which is just silly, right?

03:10:43.500 It's like, if you say, generally speaking, it is the case that the sun will be shining tomorrow in Santa Barbara.

03:10:49.240 I am correct that that is true, but you could still have a sunrise in Santa Barbara and not see it because it's an overcast day, right?

03:10:57.180 It's like, I wouldn't put it at anything in a monolith that way.

03:11:00.940 But we can still look at outcomes, general outcomes of society, and everything policy-wise is a give or take.

03:11:07.220 You're taking from this group, and this group is going to be disproportionately affected.

03:11:11.240 That's politics 101.

03:11:12.840 There's no way to placate everybody.

03:11:14.340 But we still know exactly what's good for the social adjustment of a society.

03:11:19.160 Like, that's not even in question.

03:11:21.100 We have 2,000 years of history to look at to know what are social goods inside of society and what aren't.

03:11:28.500 All right.

03:11:29.160 We're going to move it to, Julie, we'll come back to some of your other notes in a little bit.

03:11:33.560 But going here to Jazz, so, Jazz, we had a bit of an extensive back and forth when you initially had asked to be on the show.

03:11:46.200 Let me get that pulled up here in just a moment.

03:11:48.120 There's quite a bit.

03:11:50.160 Okay.

03:11:50.700 Sorry.

03:11:51.100 One sec.

03:11:51.680 Scrolling all the way up.

03:11:52.520 Oh, my God.

03:11:52.880 How many notes do I have?

03:11:54.240 Okay.

03:11:56.140 Actually, one thing before we get into that.

03:11:58.040 I was asking everybody to raise their hands before.

03:12:01.420 Quick question for you, Jazz.

03:12:02.740 We won't linger on it long.

03:12:05.600 You're a feminist, but you raised your hand for almost every single one when it came to men should pay for first aides. 1.00

03:12:11.720 You raised your hand.

03:12:12.400 Men should be providers. 0.99

03:12:13.240 Men should be providers. 0.99

03:12:14.160 Men should open car doors. 1.00

03:12:15.500 Men should be chivalrous.

03:12:17.140 Men should observe the sidewalk rule. 1.00

03:12:19.080 How do you reconcile being a feminist? 1.00

03:12:21.080 And your description of the – this is how we got kind of sidetracked.

03:12:25.420 We weren't really talking about equal rights, but you were making the argument that,

03:12:29.120 well, societally, in terms of gender expectations, gender norms, there's, like, negative gender expectations on men, negative gender expectations on women.

03:12:38.060 And you yourself seem to perpetuate traditional gender norms in terms of your dating prospects.

03:12:45.440 So how do you reconcile being a feminist, being in favor of sort of dismantling gender norms, gender expectations?

03:12:52.880 But on the individual, personal level, you hold men to said traditional gender roles.

03:13:00.420 Yes.

03:13:00.760 So we do exist in society, and men are the perpetrators in violence against women.

03:13:09.180 So I do need a protector, especially how we condition gender to be. 0.97

03:13:14.680 Men are stronger.

03:13:16.460 Again, if you want to go the nature route and biological route, they have higher levels of testosterone,

03:13:20.420 so they can gain more muscle and all of these things.

03:13:23.220 So, in a sense, yeah, when we live in reality, and I do need a protector because of the circumstances,

03:13:32.220 yes, I would like somebody who fits that role personally.

03:13:36.160 But I do think that it is negative to push that.

03:13:40.760 When it comes to wanting the outcome of gender liberation, on a grand scale, it is negative to push roles like that.

03:13:49.000 Wait a second.

03:13:49.960 You don't need that.

03:13:51.840 What do you mean?

03:13:52.280 Why do you need that?

03:13:54.160 Protection?

03:13:54.600 Why do you need that?

03:13:55.840 Yeah.

03:13:57.580 I mean, I think it's pretty obvious if we look at the statistics when it comes to violence between genders.

03:14:03.160 So, do you want us to believe that you're selecting men based on the fact that they can protect you,

03:14:07.500 not because you find that attractive, but because you just find it to be utilitarian?

03:14:13.300 I think there might be a little bit of both, sure, that it is attractive.

03:14:16.260 Why would you be attracted to that?

03:14:18.340 Yeah, you're going to go, like, the biological and genetic route with this,

03:14:22.560 and sure, that can't be...

03:14:23.800 Yeah, I read it.

03:14:24.020 Was it you who wrote the essay?

03:14:25.300 Was it her who wrote the essay?

03:14:27.340 Oh, did you read my essay?

03:14:28.400 Brian?

03:14:28.980 I read it.

03:14:29.620 Yeah, it's her.

03:14:30.440 She wrote the essay.

03:14:30.980 Yeah, I did.

03:14:31.500 Yeah, I did, too.

03:14:32.260 It was forwarded over to me.

03:14:34.080 I just want to let you know that you've got to redo the last paragraph.

03:14:36.820 There was a bunch of formal names there you didn't capitalize, but that aside...

03:14:40.980 Is it bell hooks?

03:14:41.580 Because they're not meant to be capitalized.

03:14:44.680 No, there was actual...

03:14:46.260 Oh, real?

03:14:47.340 Okay, that's my bad.

03:14:48.240 Also, I didn't know anyone was reading it.

03:14:49.800 It was just for fun, but thank you.

03:14:51.560 Any other feedback is great.

03:14:53.620 Thank you.

03:14:54.200 Well, your entire essay revolves around blank slate theory, which I don't even think that you believe.

03:14:59.900 So the idea, well, when you make an appeal, you say that it's somewhat bad or somehow bad or should not happen that men don't show expressive emotion.

03:15:14.400 That seemed to be one of the key points that you were pointing out in your essay.

03:15:18.360 But there's a problem there, which is I think you just kind of fundamentally misunderstand what masculinity and femininity are.

03:15:25.220 And that's what blank slate theory is.

03:15:26.800 It's saying that masculinity and femininity are just social traits which are conditioned by the environment.

03:15:31.580 That's what you believe.

03:15:33.320 But that's not the case.

03:15:34.820 And here's why that's not the case.

03:15:36.960 Masculinity and femininity revolve around the idea of virtues.

03:15:41.320 The way that we assign what is masculine is based along virtues, things like courage, for instance, for women.

03:15:47.200 Maybe it would be along the lines of chastity, right?

03:15:50.320 The reason that you assign these to men and women is because if there is a lack of one in one sex versus the other, the social conditions of society begin to deteriorate rapidly.

03:16:02.800 So if women aren't chaste, the social conditions of society actually deteriorate far more rapidly than if men aren't chaste. 0.93

03:16:09.320 However, if women lost all courage tomorrow, the societal conditions would deteriorate less rapidly than if men lost all courage tomorrow.

03:16:18.140 That's why it's the case that femininity and masculinity must be tied to virtues and always have been. 0.97

03:16:24.540 It's not just a matter of the blank slate social conditioning.

03:16:28.460 It's you can't have a society without these very ideas of masculinity and femininity existing to begin with. 1.00

03:16:35.880 Therefore, gender needs to actually have an assignment with sex for a good reason. 1.00

03:16:41.200 Well, I was just going to ask if you think that that means that it should be gender specific.

03:16:46.100 Like, why can't we just hold these values within society?

03:16:50.080 Because I just explained why.

03:16:51.680 If it is the case that men decided to not be courageous anymore tomorrow, then the social ramifications in society would deteriorate so quickly that there would not be a society at all.

03:17:07.840 However, if women stopped having the same courage that men did, let's say, for perhaps confronting intruders or going storming the battlefield or whatever it is,

03:17:17.340 the social conditions inside of society would deteriorate far less.

03:17:21.680 And so it's actually necessary for the sexes who can actually accommodate these goals and deeds to have these actual traits associated with their sex because they're the only ones who can really accommodate them. 0.64

03:17:37.260 Okay.

03:17:38.120 My take is just that perpetuating those ideas is pretty limiting to the human experience because then you wouldn't have women who feel masculine and go into male-dominant roles.

03:17:49.540 And I think that's just limiting to the human experience.

03:17:51.800 I don't think that.

03:17:52.460 Yeah, but do you, like, do you understand why it would be so bad for us to take women and then try to masculine or, you know, make them masculine by moving them towards roles that they're not even biologically equipped for? 0.68

03:18:07.160 But I'm not suggesting we do that.

03:18:09.080 Yes, you are.

03:18:09.920 I'm not suggesting we do that.

03:18:11.140 But I'm suggesting that there are people, well, this isn't a suggestion, there are people who exist outside of this gender heteronormative binary with these traits.

03:18:19.460 So what?

03:18:20.440 Why do you think it's a good idea to take society and the social roles that are inside of society and turn them all upside down to accommodate 0.5% of people? 0.95

03:18:29.460 I'm not asking.

03:18:30.640 Yeah, I'm not asking for those roles.

03:18:32.360 Yes, they are.

03:18:33.180 To be turned upside down.

03:18:33.940 I'm just saying, why are we not accepting of women? 1.00

03:18:36.340 Because we have to accept men in our, I'm sorry, I will never accept a fucking man who has an Adam's apple dressed as a woman, say he's going to come in my space as a woman and take over my shit. 1.00

03:18:48.540 I'm not. 1.00

03:18:49.300 You know what? 0.99

03:18:49.740 My mother and grandmother burned their bras for women's, and I don't, what the fuck is this waves of feminism? 1.00

03:18:57.180 Feminism is 1965, man. 1.00

03:18:59.900 Okay, when we, and we have the laws, Title IX, Title IX, you're going to keep fucking men in your spaces. 1.00

03:19:08.220 You're going to keep men in your bathrooms. 1.00

03:19:10.080 You're going to keep men in your spaces, and we're going to keep women in our spaces, and that's it. 1.00

03:19:15.020 I'm sick of this bullshit. 1.00

03:19:17.120 Stop it. 1.00

03:19:18.260 You know what? 1.00

03:19:18.760 All this is is liberal fucking propaganda bullshit that we have to accept a man being a woman. 1.00

03:19:23.900 Really, does your little Adam's apple go away when you decide you want to have tits and a fucking pussy getting your fucking dick cut off? 1.00

03:19:31.720 No. 1.00

03:19:33.060 No.

03:19:33.680 You're still a man, and you always will be.

03:19:36.400 That's it.

03:19:37.580 And you know what?

03:19:38.580 You're not going to come in my rights.

03:19:40.580 You're not going to come in my spaces, and that's it.

03:19:44.420 Sorry. 1.00

03:19:45.140 You got mental illness, and get help for your mental illness. 1.00

03:19:48.400 Enough with this bullshit, this propaganda crap. 1.00

03:19:51.380 That's all it is. 1.00

03:19:52.220 I've had it, man.

03:19:54.700 I'm 52.

03:19:56.700 Yeah, I know. 0.96

03:19:57.580 A lot of shit has changed for a lot of years, but you know what? 1.00

03:20:00.860 This crap, no. 1.00

03:20:03.720 When it gets down to brass tacks, yeah, I don't need this psycho babble. 1.00

03:20:08.660 Okay?

03:20:09.140 No.

03:20:10.160 A man's a man. 0.94

03:20:11.000 A woman's a woman. 1.00

03:20:11.780 That's it. 1.00

03:20:12.480 And no man can have a fucking baby, and that's it, man. 1.00

03:20:16.800 Yeah, but that actually makes the best point for the lack of... 1.00

03:20:21.060 I don't care if it makes the best point.

03:20:22.780 That's the common logical point.

03:20:25.180 Okay?

03:20:25.540 We're getting back to common sense. 1.00

03:20:27.700 Enough of this bullshit. 1.00

03:20:29.720 Okay? 1.00

03:20:30.180 Oh, you want to twist the fucking psychological around to make a man be a woman? 1.00

03:20:35.580 Really? 1.00

03:20:36.240 Can they?

03:20:36.740 Can you?

03:20:37.140 Nope.

03:20:37.780 I don't think he's not disagreeing with you.

03:20:40.140 Okay.

03:20:41.180 Well, thank you.

03:20:42.260 We were about to hear his response.

03:20:44.020 Well, thank you.

03:20:45.140 Can we hear it?

03:20:45.940 Go ahead.

03:20:46.180 Yeah, I don't know, considering that I'm one of the largest anti-trans proponents in the 0.99

03:20:51.380 fucking United States. 0.97

03:20:52.700 Well, thank you. 1.00

03:20:53.340 So am I. 0.98

03:20:54.020 I don't know why the fuck you would associate that with me, but okay. 0.99

03:20:57.520 So anyway... 0.98

03:20:58.180 Why are you yelling at him?

03:20:59.520 I'm not yelling at him.

03:21:00.640 I'm sticking my head in the microphone is what I'm doing.

03:21:03.580 After you've read my essay, I think we can just both agree that we have...

03:21:05.780 All of a sudden, I'm yelling now.

03:21:07.080 ...that we have fundamental differences of...

03:21:09.180 I mean, you were yelling.

03:21:10.820 I just, like, I don't care if you want to...

03:21:12.280 I put my mouth in the microphone, just like Brian said.

03:21:15.520 Yeah.

03:21:15.960 Put your mouth in the microphone.

03:21:17.860 So yeah, back...

03:21:18.980 But yeah, back to this.

03:21:20.020 One of the most valid points that she makes is the idea of reproduction, right?

03:21:25.220 It's like only one sex can reproduce and has control over reproduction. 0.62

03:21:29.080 That's women. 1.00

03:21:29.720 You agree that that's true.

03:21:31.340 Since that's the one role that they can do that men can't do, you would think that you 1.00

03:21:35.660 would want to socially be promoting reproduction unless you were an antinatalist and you didn't

03:21:41.680 want reproduction. 0.97

03:21:43.060 It's not that I...

03:21:43.660 And it is the case that most feminists I've talked to are very much antinatalists. 1.00

03:21:46.820 It's baked into feminism itself. 1.00

03:21:48.240 Well, can anybody give me a definition of a woman? 0.89

03:21:52.160 I can give it.

03:21:53.300 I can.

03:21:53.820 Can we listen to them speak?

03:21:55.760 I don't mean to be rude.

03:21:56.680 I just had a moment, a silent moment.

03:21:59.480 But they're in the middle of a discussion.

03:22:01.140 They're debating something.

03:22:01.560 Yeah, I would say it's an adult human female.

03:22:05.720 That would be a woman, an adult human female. 0.96

03:22:08.380 I just think...

03:22:08.900 Well, there is a definition, but anyway, go ahead.

03:22:10.720 I just think we fundamentally...

03:22:12.180 That's the actual definition, adult human female.

03:22:14.280 That's the actual definition of a woman, yes. 0.99

03:22:17.180 No, it's a human that menstruates. 1.00

03:22:20.300 Because any human that menstruates from the age of nine to about 45... 0.97

03:22:24.880 No, so you're saying that women who can't menstruate... 1.00

03:22:26.580 Now, you can't have a baby.

03:22:28.140 Maybe you can, can't have a baby. 0.57

03:22:29.700 That's whether...

03:22:30.700 But you do menstruate. 0.72

03:22:31.960 In a few years... 1.00

03:22:32.440 No fucking man menstruates. 1.00

03:22:34.020 You won't be able to menstruate. 1.00

03:22:35.280 Does a man menstruate? 0.98

03:22:36.560 Does a man menstruate? 0.98

03:22:38.180 No, of course not.

03:22:39.200 Of course not.

03:22:40.620 Of course not. 0.52

03:22:41.360 But lady, the reason your definition is silly is because in a few years, you probably won't 0.96

03:22:46.340 be able to menstruate. 0.96

03:22:47.300 I already do.

03:22:48.060 I'm 52.

03:22:49.200 I'm menopausal.

03:22:50.800 See?

03:22:51.180 That's natural.

03:22:51.960 So then you're not a woman by your definition? 0.76

03:22:54.120 Yes, I am a woman.

03:22:55.400 It's called natural.

03:22:56.560 But you just said you have to menstruate to be a woman.

03:22:58.980 Well, from about nine to about 45, yes.

03:23:02.380 And you know this to be true.

03:23:03.740 You're married to a woman, right?

03:23:05.280 So by your definition, you're not a woman?

03:23:07.960 Because you don't menstruate? 0.94

03:23:10.380 You know what?

03:23:11.260 Come on now.

03:23:12.360 Biologically, stop twisting the biological.

03:23:15.100 You know?

03:23:15.900 I mean, to about 50...

03:23:17.520 I'm twisting the biological?

03:23:18.140 Yes, you are.

03:23:19.120 Because menstruation, yes. 0.74

03:23:20.760 You know what the biggest problem is?

03:23:21.520 The biggest problem is, is like, even when we have...

03:23:23.560 Because if a woman can't have a baby, it doesn't matter if you can have a baby out 1.00

03:23:26.720 of that menstruation, you are still a woman.

03:23:29.640 Like, from my side of it, even when I have people who agree with me, the biggest things

03:23:33.680 that I have to deal with is that you present the argument...

03:23:36.640 Oh, I'm supposed to agree with you?

03:23:38.660 Yeah, I'm arguing with you.

03:23:39.960 But you're not letting him speak at all.

03:23:41.760 You're not even paralleling what he's saying. 1.00

03:23:44.240 Well, stop putting that cigarette up to your fucking face. 1.00

03:23:47.040 Are you drunk? 1.00

03:23:47.980 There's something wrong.

03:23:50.380 You don't... 0.98

03:23:51.040 I mean, are cigarettes that offensive to a prostitute? 0.99

03:23:54.900 I'm not a prostitute, bro. 0.82

03:23:56.420 You're on OnlyFans. 0.80

03:23:57.060 Are you on OnlyFans, bro? 0.99

03:23:57.920 So it's not OnlyFans, it's a prostitute. 1.00

03:24:00.280 There's a lot of other things that go on OnlyFans than that. 0.99

03:24:04.040 Yeah, are you doing those other things, or are you showing your boobies for money?

03:24:08.260 Well, why don't you subscribe and find out?

03:24:10.960 Yeah, so you're doing that, exactly. 0.90

03:24:13.080 So that's the thing, is like, don't lie to me and say you're not a prostitute when you're 0.98

03:24:17.660 a prostitute. 0.98

03:24:18.040 That's not a prostitute. 1.00

03:24:19.080 A prostitute is somebody fucking somebody for money, actually having sex somebody for money. 1.00

03:24:24.540 You know what? 1.00

03:24:25.080 You guys want to twist narratives. 1.00

03:24:26.660 That's what this liberal bullshit is. 1.00

03:24:28.560 That's why the liberal bullshit took over the media. 1.00

03:24:32.200 Yeah, that's why SpongeBrain's shitpants was hidden for four fucking years. 1.00

03:24:37.040 You know, because the liberal media, all of a sudden, we got to be programmed to what 1.00

03:24:41.540 we say on fucking socials. 0.99

03:24:44.020 Hello? 1.00

03:24:46.260 Hello?

03:24:47.160 I'm sorry, I'm 52. 0.99

03:24:48.140 I don't give a fuck, man. 1.00

03:24:50.300 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

03:24:51.560 I don't think Andrew is liberal. 1.00

03:24:53.440 I don't give a fuck if he's liberal or not. 0.99

03:24:55.040 He's conservative. 0.99

03:24:56.040 I don't think he's liberal whatsoever.

03:24:57.300 You know what?

03:24:57.780 I should have been on here when Charlie Kirk was on here.

03:25:00.180 I wish I should have.

03:25:00.980 He's literally not.

03:25:01.620 Oh my God.

03:25:02.060 They have the same views.

03:25:03.540 They're both conservative.

03:25:04.300 I love you, but he's not liberal whatsoever.

03:25:06.800 Well, at any rate.

03:25:08.020 Yeah.

03:25:08.460 Loud noises! 1.00

03:25:10.280 What the fuck? 1.00

03:25:12.140 All right. 1.00

03:25:14.000 It's an open discussion, right?

03:25:15.900 That got hijacked.

03:25:16.720 Well, by definition, a discussion means you speak and you listen.

03:25:21.700 And I don't think you've heard what...

03:25:21.920 And I've been doing that. 0.99

03:25:23.060 I've been silent the whole fucking time, man. 0.97

03:25:25.020 Yeah, but I don't think you know what Andrew's position is. 0.98

03:25:28.260 It doesn't seem like you know what Andrew's even saying.

03:25:31.820 I responded to him.

03:25:33.920 But you guys are in agreement, and you're responding as if you disagree with him.

03:25:38.580 I do disagree a little bit.

03:25:42.060 A little bit.

03:25:42.600 Have you heard anything he said?

03:25:43.560 About what?

03:25:44.060 What could you ever disagree with me on?

03:25:46.740 You did kind of call him liberal, and he's literally not liberal.

03:25:49.340 Yeah, and I'm not a liberal.

03:25:50.580 Well, I'm not a liberal either.

03:25:51.700 He's actually not liberal.

03:25:52.760 Have you watched the show?

03:25:53.660 You know what?

03:25:54.120 Really quick, Mary, pull up that photo that I pulled... 0.99

03:25:56.660 Or actually, wait, shit. 0.99

03:25:59.040 Hold on. 1.00

03:25:59.620 Okay, sorry.

03:26:00.060 Keep going.

03:26:00.420 I've got to fix it.

03:26:01.120 One second.

03:26:01.860 Keep going.

03:26:02.260 Go ahead.

03:26:05.300 Cheers, Andrew.

03:26:08.580 All right, Andrew.

03:26:10.360 Anyway, everyone, go read my essay.

03:26:12.520 Go read my essay.

03:26:13.760 Rocky's on TikTok, R-O-C-K-E-Y-S. 0.99

03:26:16.900 Oh, yes.

03:26:17.240 It's linked in the bio.

03:26:18.380 No, buddy.

03:26:19.040 It's a short read.

03:26:19.700 It's about six paragraphs.

03:26:21.060 Yes, I wrote it just like randomly.

03:26:23.040 I'm like shocked that it was ever found.

03:26:26.380 I want to read it.

03:26:26.900 Okay.

03:26:27.420 What?

03:26:27.960 Okay.

03:26:28.440 Wait, really quick, Andrew.

03:26:29.420 I want your reaction to this.

03:26:32.100 I know this on your Instagram, and are you wearing a cross right now? 0.50

03:26:34.900 Yes, I am.

03:26:35.920 Can you show that to the...

03:26:37.220 Yes.

03:26:37.500 And this, the reason why...

03:26:39.600 Are you a Christian?

03:26:40.660 Yes, I am.

03:26:41.660 Okay.

03:26:41.960 And this is very special to me because I got out of rehab for this.

03:26:46.080 Yeah, really quick.

03:26:46.980 Like 25 years ago.

03:26:48.700 That's fine.

03:26:49.220 Really quick.

03:26:50.160 Mary, pull up the photo really quick so Andrew can see it.

03:26:53.300 Yes.

03:26:53.700 So this is on your Instagram, and you have a lot of photos that are just like this.

03:26:58.300 You're always wearing this cross necklace with quite a bit of cleavage. 0.89

03:27:03.900 Titties be popping out. 1.00

03:27:05.820 Titties popping out. 0.71

03:27:07.500 And you also on your Instagram, there's a link to your OnlyFans.

03:27:10.920 It's just OnlyFans.

03:27:13.120 What denomination of Christian are you?

03:27:15.340 I don't have one.

03:27:16.480 I'm just Christian.

03:27:17.520 I just follow Jesus.

03:27:19.080 Non-denominational?

03:27:20.060 Non-denominational.

03:27:20.840 One quick question, then I'm going to pass it back over to Andrew.

03:27:25.360 Do you think God wants you doing OnlyFans?

03:27:28.160 I don't care.

03:27:29.460 I'm on this earth to do what I'm going to do, and he accepts me.

03:27:32.920 I pray every day, and I pray, if he likes it, my forgiveness, and that's it.

03:27:38.340 And I guess a follow-up question.

03:27:40.240 Oops, let me fix this.

03:27:41.380 Hide that, Mary.

03:27:42.420 Hide the Discord.

03:27:43.260 No, no, no.

03:27:43.860 Here, hold on.

03:27:45.420 Go back.

03:27:45.900 Hide the Discord.

03:27:47.720 Scroll down.

03:27:48.720 Sorry.

03:27:49.120 One.

03:27:49.420 There it is.

03:27:50.800 Yeah.

03:27:52.020 Okay.

03:27:54.640 If God wants you or is fine with you doing OnlyFans, what do you think Satan wants?

03:28:01.360 Satan wants me right where I'm at.

03:28:03.920 Where does God want you?

03:28:06.680 Where I'm going.

03:28:08.120 Where I keep doing.

03:28:09.200 What I keep doing.

03:28:10.560 My day, every day.

03:28:11.860 Every day, I wake up, I do my thing.

03:28:15.040 No, related to the sex work.

03:28:16.780 Related to the OnlyFans.

03:28:17.980 I mean, sex work. 1.00

03:28:18.880 See, when you talk about sex work, am I fucking somebody? 0.99

03:28:22.400 What kind of content do you do on your OF? 0.99

03:28:24.980 Is it boy-girl content?

03:28:26.380 No, it's just me.

03:28:27.600 It's solo content.

03:28:28.620 It's all me.

03:28:29.260 Okay. 0.99

03:28:29.800 Whether it's masturbation, whether it's dildos, whether it's naked, whether it's not sex. 0.99

03:28:35.840 Would you agree that through your OnlyFans, you're inducing men to lust? 0.99

03:28:40.420 Men are going to lust anyway. 0.99

03:28:41.780 It's a natural thing to do.

03:28:42.560 But would you be inducing them to lust?

03:28:44.880 Maybe.

03:28:46.040 Well, almost certainly you are.

03:28:47.640 Probably.

03:28:48.760 So, again...

03:28:49.880 And I'm enticing it, too, on my OnlyFans page.

03:28:53.240 Well, okay.

03:28:53.740 Even if you're a non-denominational Christian, how would you reconcile this with your faith?

03:28:57.440 And then, again, I'll just ask the question again.

03:28:58.520 Because my faith doesn't come into it.

03:29:00.580 Do you think God wants you to be doing OnlyFans?

03:29:03.000 Yes or no?

03:29:04.100 I don't know.

03:29:04.720 What do you think?

03:29:06.460 Do you have a personal relationship with God?

03:29:09.580 God, it's called, he gives us free will.

03:29:13.220 And if we feel good with it, and we don't feel anything wrong with it, as long as we're not hurting anybody or ourselves.

03:29:22.820 And, yeah, I think he's cool with it.

03:29:25.240 Isn't there a phrase from the Bible, go and sin no more?

03:29:28.160 So, I mean, God gives you free will, but...

03:29:29.980 That's, if you go to Jesus and say, I have sinned so badly, just please forgive me.

03:29:36.700 Okay, really quick, just really quick, then I'm passing it over to Andrew.

03:29:39.120 Well, I'm doing that.

03:29:39.700 Just a yes or no, yes or no, not an I don't know.

03:29:42.480 Do you think God wants you doing OnlyFans?

03:29:45.180 Yes.

03:29:46.000 And then what does Satan want? 0.99

03:29:48.200 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

03:29:49.000 Well, okay. 0.99

03:29:49.760 If God wants you to be doing OnlyFans, then you would say that Satan doesn't want you to be doing OnlyFans?

03:29:54.900 Just so I have that clear?

03:29:55.620 Maybe.

03:29:57.880 Probably doesn't. 0.98

03:30:01.340 That rascally devil... 0.98

03:30:02.660 I guess. 1.00

03:30:03.860 It's called a fucking choice. 1.00

03:30:05.540 We were born with a choice. 1.00

03:30:07.020 We either do or we don't, okay?

03:30:09.340 There's either doing or there's no trying in life.

03:30:12.600 There's either trying or doing, and that's it.

03:30:14.640 Yeah, calm down there, Master Yoda.

03:30:15.600 Calm down.

03:30:16.900 Stop it.

03:30:17.520 There is no try.

03:30:19.600 All right, well, there it is.

03:30:21.740 Come on.

03:30:22.380 You ripped that off from Star Wars.

03:30:24.140 You ripped it off from Star Wars.

03:30:28.800 You know what? 0.99

03:30:29.600 That little Yoda is a really fucking smart guy, man. 0.99

03:30:33.200 Make your point without yelling, please. 0.99

03:30:35.280 Make your points without yelling.

03:30:36.560 I'm sorry.

03:30:37.080 That little Yoda guy is a really smart guy.

03:30:39.140 You can speak impassionately, but try not to, like, in terms of your volume...

03:30:42.140 There's no trying in life, only doing.

03:30:44.440 Andrew...

03:30:44.600 Because when you're doing, you're trying.

03:30:46.040 Now you must.

03:30:47.100 By the way, I want to give...

03:30:48.320 I have to give credit to Andrew.

03:30:50.440 Now calm you must be.

03:30:51.760 I have to give credit to Andrew for that argument, the question about what if God wants you to

03:30:57.860 be doing OnlyFans, and then, of course, what does Satan want.

03:31:01.220 I'll credit to Andrew Wilson there.

03:31:03.560 Andrew, I'll pass it over really quick.

03:31:04.960 I did want to make an announcement, and Andrew maybe has some thoughts on this.

03:31:08.280 Guys, so Andrew had a fantastic debate with a woman named Kylie.

03:31:13.960 This was our debate that we had, I believe it was on Sunday, or excuse me, no, Saturday

03:31:18.280 before our last Sunday show when we had Andrew here in person.

03:31:22.060 Kylie has messaged me, and then pull up the Discord, so you can pull it up.

03:31:28.340 I should have left it on the page.

03:31:29.440 Uh-oh.

03:31:30.400 Kylie has threatened me with a lawsuit. 0.99

03:31:33.420 Wait, which one was she? 0.99

03:31:36.120 Crash Out Kylie. 1.00

03:31:37.080 That's the nickname I bestowed upon her.

03:31:38.740 Crash Out Kylie. 1.00

03:31:40.280 Crash Out Kylie is her new name.

03:31:42.780 She's... 1.00

03:31:43.940 Can we see her?

03:31:45.100 Yeah, I need to see a visual.

03:31:46.460 Do you have it pulled up on Discord full screen?

03:31:50.000 I call her.

03:31:50.600 Yeah, go ahead.

03:31:51.060 Pull it up.

03:31:51.500 Kylie.

03:31:52.940 All right, so if you guys want to see the messages, you're not going to click on that,

03:31:56.020 but if you want to see the messages, it's in my Discord.

03:31:58.200 Discord.gg slash whatever.

03:31:59.880 She's the girl sitting here with the notepad?

03:32:01.220 Stop.

03:32:01.360 Sorry, sorry.

03:32:01.780 I posted the threat, her legal threat.

03:32:03.900 She said she hired a law firm, so a lawsuit is probably imminent from her.

03:32:09.600 I fully blame Andrew because Andrew so thoroughly demolished her worldview that she was so upset

03:32:15.880 that she's really a poor sport. 0.74

03:32:19.080 What's it?

03:32:19.340 Or a sour?

03:32:20.100 What's it called? 1.00

03:32:20.480 She's a fucking cut. 1.00

03:32:21.400 Sore sport. 1.00

03:32:22.280 Sore loser? 1.00

03:32:22.860 Sore loser. 0.99

03:32:23.620 She's suing me because Andrew just dog walked her the entire day. 0.99

03:32:28.020 Wait, what is she suing you for?

03:32:29.440 Like, what's the claim?

03:32:30.880 It's the charge.

03:32:31.660 Yeah.

03:32:32.060 We all signed a consent.

03:32:33.440 Well, she's alleging that I... 1.00

03:32:35.460 You're being a big, stupid beanie head. 1.00

03:32:38.720 She's alleging that we harassed her and that we set her up. 1.00

03:32:43.500 And then there was, here's the lead into this.

03:32:48.580 We were going to cover her airfare and her hotel, right?

03:32:52.680 But she, there's a couple components here.

03:32:55.900 She was in breach of contract.

03:32:57.720 She got up a whole bunch of times.

03:32:59.260 She wasn't participating in good faith.

03:33:00.500 I'm not too far ahead in the story.

03:33:01.700 Listen, go back to when she got to the studio and told you about how she was engaged in

03:33:07.220 a lawsuit with another show.

03:33:09.020 Was she that hot? 1.00

03:33:10.100 Because you paid for it.

03:33:11.420 You said you were going to pay for her to come.

03:33:13.460 That's what I heard.

03:33:14.140 When you got to the studio, it was...

03:33:14.860 She was, like, popular on something else.

03:33:16.900 Oh, okay.

03:33:17.420 It was a, well, it was a 1v1 debate.

03:33:19.240 So it's a little different format.

03:33:20.400 When she got to, when she got to the studio, she wanted Brian to give her all rights over

03:33:25.420 all clips or something like that because she was engaged in a lawsuit against somebody 0.96

03:33:31.100 and never really described how it was that she was suing him or why something about AI 0.92

03:33:36.720 or some shit or something. 0.77

03:33:39.160 You remember that, Brian? 0.99

03:33:40.280 Yeah.

03:33:40.700 I mean, she was basically like, and I've, I've, this is never a request that would ever

03:33:45.380 be granted, but she, this is what she said, Henry.

03:33:48.040 She said, I want to have final approval before any clip that you publish or you push out,

03:33:55.440 which no production company will, would ever agree to, at least for like an internet-based

03:34:01.080 production.

03:34:02.420 So she wanted essentially final cut, like to, to, to have, we would have to be like, is

03:34:09.400 it okay if we post this clip?

03:34:11.300 Are you okay with how it was edited?

03:34:13.320 Nobody does this.

03:34:14.440 This is never granted in any sort of production.

03:34:17.360 So she wanted that.

03:34:18.680 She was like arguing over whether she had to sign the appearance release, mind you, in

03:34:24.160 a prior agreement that we had, it incorporates in that agreement that she has to sign the

03:34:28.760 appearance release.

03:34:29.400 And she's like, well, what happens if I don't sign the appearance release?

03:34:32.920 I'm like, we can't do the show.

03:34:34.860 And then we do the show there.

03:34:36.340 You guys can watch, watch it to see the whole back and forth.

03:34:39.700 She's a bit of a Karen. 0.99

03:34:40.660 She walked off a bunch of times, attacked, well, insulted Andrew in various ways, and

03:34:46.300 just kind of being a bit of a brat, a bit of a Karen. 0.99

03:34:49.420 But the really big thing was where there's a dispute here is that as she was about to

03:34:55.280 leave, she said that somebody contacted her, a third party contacted her and offered her,

03:35:01.240 uh, offered her essentially what we were going to pay her for her to walk off and just leave 1.00

03:35:08.200 early.

03:35:09.440 So this would essentially, what a good deal.

03:35:12.380 What?

03:35:12.700 I guess.

03:35:13.180 Uh, so, but that then calls into question, basically, if some third party is interfering

03:35:19.500 with a contract that I had with her and she's benefiting from him enticing her to breach her 0.91

03:35:26.440 contract with me, I believe on that basis alone, granted, there's a lot of her other conduct that

03:35:32.540 I think would constitute breach of contract, excuse me, breach of contract, but on the basis alone

03:35:38.820 that she agreed to be paid from a third party to sabotage our production and walk off the set

03:35:44.380 before the agreed upon time.

03:35:46.320 And our contract stated she would be paid for her full appearance.

03:35:50.740 That would be breach enough to fully relinquish me of my duty to pay her under the contract

03:35:56.580 that we did have.

03:35:57.880 That's my interpretation.

03:35:59.340 So she's trying to say that we set her up.

03:36:02.040 Uh, she's probably going to say there's defamation. 0.99

03:36:04.180 She's going to say some other bullshit. 1.00

03:36:05.920 She's going to say there's breach of contract on our part. 0.99

03:36:08.140 Uh, she said that this California law firm is going to, whatever.

03:36:11.920 So she's probably going to file a lawsuit. 1.00

03:36:13.400 So if you guys want to support the show, join the discord.

03:36:16.820 You can see all the legal stuff that I posted.

03:36:18.780 I, oh, I sent her a, a scathing response, scathing response, if you want to see it. 0.97

03:36:24.680 So, um, yeah, what the fuck is going on back there? 1.00

03:36:28.900 The fuck are you doing? 1.00

03:36:31.280 What was that? 1.00

03:36:32.040 What spilled?

03:36:33.740 Hello?

03:36:34.140 When she was just pushing a bottle under the trash.

03:36:37.420 Oh.

03:36:38.240 Why?

03:36:39.160 Okay.

03:36:39.800 Whatever.

03:36:40.760 Um, okay.

03:36:42.620 Uh, we need to get, we got way off course here.

03:36:45.900 We need to get back to this stuff.

03:36:49.840 So, I was asking you, Jazz, you raised your hand for every single thing.

03:36:56.160 How do you reconcile your feminist positions and you, your feminist positions almost strictly 0.98

03:37:03.400 relate to like not laws or anything.

03:37:06.760 It relates to like gender expectations and a rejection of traditional gender roles.

03:37:12.100 Yet in your own life, you don't hold up to your own sort of relinquishment of gender roles.

03:37:20.800 Yes.

03:37:21.980 So, um, my focus in education was on political thought and theory.

03:37:27.800 So, um, I think I can hold ideas and an ideology that I don't necessarily participate in in the,

03:37:38.040 uh, present because those circumstances aren't a reality right now.

03:37:42.580 So, um, and again, we live in society.

03:37:47.280 Men do exist in a certain way. 0.76

03:37:49.620 Women exist in a certain way and have certain roles. 1.00

03:37:53.880 We aren't equal physically.

03:37:56.660 So, um, there is that standard.

03:37:59.100 The standard exists and I am someone that does participate in gender roles.

03:38:05.640 But it's just an interest of mine.

03:38:08.780 Um, like the idea of gender liberation and just political theory was my focus.

03:38:14.280 So, but so my question to you is, because I, I assume that when it comes to like the traditional

03:38:21.240 gender roles or expectations as it relates to women and dating.

03:38:25.580 So you would say, for example, uh, there's certain components that women should be able 1.00

03:38:30.200 to escape from like being submissive, right?

03:38:32.660 Or being equal partners and not having the man make all the decisions in the relationship,

03:38:38.700 right?

03:38:39.080 You would, you would reject that.

03:38:40.820 I'm assuming.

03:38:42.460 Like in your, in your own romantic relationships, do you want to be submissive?

03:38:47.320 Um, I don't think so.

03:38:48.700 I'm, I'm, I'm pretty independent and I mean, I'm not speaking in sexual terms, but pretty

03:38:53.380 dominant too, in certain ways.

03:38:55.420 And I think in my personal relationships, and this is why I think it's dangerous to perpetuate

03:39:00.040 a certain idea and roles onto people because everyone exists in a bunch of nuances.

03:39:05.180 And in my personal relationships, um, I would rather just have a partner.

03:39:09.380 So any characteristic that I lack, they should have.

03:39:12.660 And if, if you're a man who exists as the role of a man in society, and you need that

03:39:18.640 counterpart to be a woman who exists as the way women exist in society in that role, then 1.00

03:39:24.560 that's your prerogative.

03:39:25.320 Okay.

03:39:25.560 So how do you believe in gender liberation?

03:39:29.160 Hold on, Mary, let's get the cameras going. 1.00

03:39:31.120 Okay.

03:39:31.860 Do you believe in gender liberation only for women?

03:39:35.740 No.

03:39:37.060 But okay.

03:39:37.840 If all women, all even feminist progressive women are like you insofar as you like say, 0.51

03:39:44.720 well, it should be the case that men are allowed to, uh, maybe men can be stay at home dads,

03:39:50.840 but if zero women, especially feminist progressive women who perpetuate that men should be allowed 1.00

03:39:57.240 to do this, but none of them actually adhere to it in practice, in reality, then how can men

03:40:03.260 ever explore these other kinds of gender dynamics? 0.99

03:40:07.300 If you yourself as a feminist progressive liberal woman, you don't even want that in your own 1.00

03:40:12.860 relationship.

03:40:13.400 And I think this would also equally apply to the vast majority of other feminist women who, 0.99

03:40:18.720 despite their own proclamations of wanting gender liberation or gender equity or equality,

03:40:22.800 they still demand chivalry and men paying for dates and men being protectors and providers

03:40:28.440 and all these things in their relationships.

03:40:29.860 You want to escape from your traditional gender roles and relationships, but you want to,

03:40:34.440 you basically want to be 1950s bachelorettes and still maintain men to their traditional 1.00

03:40:39.720 gender roles. 1.00

03:40:40.420 How do you explain that?

03:40:42.100 No, I think, um, everyone should just feel free to exist as they should.

03:40:49.400 And I think perpetuating these roles is dangerous.

03:40:51.780 And although I do look for men who have to protect me physically, I think first it needs 1.00

03:40:56.680 to happen on an emotional level where you have a partner who's completely open with you emotionally

03:41:00.740 and maybe matches you intellectually.

03:41:03.660 Um, but as it exists today, men are stronger than women physically, um, most likely.

03:41:10.640 And, um.

03:41:11.980 Okay.

03:41:12.200 So if I go ahead and just grant that fine, it's okay for feminists to want men to be protectors. 1.00

03:41:17.160 How about paying for first dates?

03:41:21.580 Yeah, I think when women go out with men, it's a risk because of, it's a risk for assault. 1.00

03:41:28.560 Let's be honest.

03:41:29.980 33% of adult women are assaulted by men.

03:41:33.640 So it's not like it's a rare occurrence.

03:41:36.120 This is a completely dubious statistic.

03:41:38.180 It's just my opinion though.

03:41:39.800 The statistic is your opinion?

03:41:41.140 My opinion that like, if you're already fronting the risk, you know, the stat, the statistics

03:41:47.560 you reference include, it's really, uh, it's really kind of a disgusting, egregious thing

03:41:53.340 what they do with these feminist statistics. 1.00

03:41:55.960 Essentially what they'll do is, is they'll lump in, uh, things that are perhaps we would

03:42:01.940 agree like shouldn't be done, but are like not nearly as bad as like full on violent stranger

03:42:09.120 essay.

03:42:09.680 For example, in these, in these studies, they'll include things like cat calling.

03:42:15.320 And they'll, I think that statistic is like way more.

03:42:18.200 It's like nine out of 10 women experience.

03:42:20.140 But they'll say, so here's what they'll do.

03:42:21.800 They'll say that, uh, they'll, they'll create like this sort of, uh, amalgamation category,

03:42:26.900 a cat, a catch all category called sexual violence.

03:42:30.420 And in the sexual violence category, they're going to say that things like cat calling, uh, that

03:42:38.800 falls under it.

03:42:39.680 So when they, uh, when they give these questionnaires to these women and the women mark, well, yeah, 0.91

03:42:44.720 this one time, this guy cat called me, or if a woman's ever been called a slut, that also 0.95

03:42:50.280 is under the, uh, sexual violence. 0.91

03:42:54.520 So it totally skews the statistics.

03:42:57.480 Yeah.

03:42:57.500 I don't know any valid research or academic that would post any sort of, um, data that

03:43:03.480 would represent cat calling as violence.

03:43:06.640 Yeah.

03:43:06.960 That would be in the harassment category, not the violent.

03:43:09.120 Sexual harassment.

03:43:09.860 They consider it, they consider it under that category.

03:43:13.500 Well, that's an inaccurate data paper.

03:43:14.200 Yeah.

03:43:14.400 But if, if it is the case that all these feminist institutions and, you know, RAINN, for example, 0.99

03:43:19.760 like that's pretty much the number one, uh, institution as far as I know, that's advocating

03:43:24.780 against SA, uh, and you think they skewer their data.

03:43:29.360 I've literally pulled, like, I've actually looked at their statistics and they make the one

03:43:33.660 in three or one in four or one in five claim.

03:43:36.060 And then if you look at the actual, it's most of it is from the NIS, but they've done other

03:43:41.160 studies too.

03:43:41.960 If you actually look at like the questionnaires that they're sending out to these women, it

03:43:46.540 includes things like, have you ever been cat called? 0.99

03:43:49.980 Have you ever been called a bitch? 0.99

03:43:51.560 And this is considered reputable or is this just like, you're saying it's just feminist 0.99

03:43:55.500 data points?

03:43:57.020 It's, it's literally what they're citing to these, uh, like RAINN.

03:44:01.760 It's the, uh, studies that they're citing to, to come to the determination that it's

03:44:07.360 been one in four or one in three women are victims of these crimes.

03:44:12.200 And then they're just, you're going to say, oh, it's one in three women are graved, but 0.99

03:44:16.460 it's actually, no, it's, they're, they're factoring in.

03:44:19.200 I get what you're saying.

03:44:19.820 I just don't know who would consider that to be, um, if what you're saying is true, who

03:44:25.320 would consider that to be like accurate, uh, data selection?

03:44:28.580 Uh, I can show it to you if you'd like, um, no, I get what you're saying.

03:44:33.200 And that is what it's representing.

03:44:34.500 I'm just wondering, like, there has to be someone who has countered their data and been

03:44:38.980 like, this is a, a skewed data set and is inaccurate.

03:44:42.640 It's the data that these institutions that are, uh, but it's an inaccurate data set.

03:44:49.060 Right.

03:44:49.580 But I mean, if these are like the, the talking points, well, if these are the ultimate, uh,

03:44:55.720 organizations that are dictating basically the cultural zeitgeist of one in three women 1.00

03:45:01.340 are being essayed, but it's including things like catcalling and be called like getting 0.96

03:45:05.940 called a slut. 0.98

03:45:07.020 Yeah. 0.99

03:45:07.520 That seems very misleading.

03:45:09.380 Yeah.

03:45:09.720 I would completely agree.

03:45:10.900 Well, Brian's just pointing out there, there's a lot of methodological issues like defining

03:45:17.380 and measuring violence is really difficult because you can only measure it by your definition

03:45:22.320 of what it is.

03:45:23.720 You understand?

03:45:24.940 Like if, if you consider catcalling for instance, to be sexual violence, then that would skew

03:45:31.660 your numbers extremely high when they're really not as high as you're claiming.

03:45:36.400 Right.

03:45:37.540 Um, lifetime prevalence versus annual violence would be another one.

03:45:41.480 Types of violence, inflated sense of prevalence, right.

03:45:45.020 Could be another issue.

03:45:45.900 There's a lot of data biases, which happen.

03:45:47.640 When I look at these numbers, I look often at how these things are defined and I find

03:45:52.940 massive discrepancies, which are absurd, just absurd. 0.98

03:45:56.200 Like the idea of catcalling, for instance, being sexual violence is fucking insane to me. 0.98

03:46:00.200 Mm-hmm. 0.99

03:46:00.620 I would agree.

03:46:01.860 Uh, I'll get, I'm going to let this chat come through, then we're going to move it on

03:46:04.440 a little bit.

03:46:04.760 Thanks, Tasty George.

03:46:05.960 Appreciate it.

03:46:06.420 Tasty George donated $200.

03:46:07.660 Share one.

03:46:08.560 Can anyone be what they want?

03:46:10.160 So, according to your logic, which other feminists also share, a person can be like Jason Voorhees 1.00

03:46:17.120 or even Michael Myers.

03:46:19.180 So, is mental illness a right? 0.99

03:46:21.680 L-O-L-X-D. 0.99

03:46:23.520 Who are those people?

03:46:24.980 I don't know.

03:46:26.580 Um, they're asking if I support, yeah, if I support like serial killers, maybe?

03:46:31.500 Is that the suggestion?

03:46:32.260 Yeah, I think that's what he's asking.

03:46:33.300 I mean, obviously, there's a balance of morality that you have to consider when you are talking

03:46:38.980 in conversations like this, and I think murder is morally wrong, and I think academics, anthropologists,

03:46:45.300 political scientists, normal people on the street have all collectively agreed as a society

03:46:49.280 that murder is wrong and serial killers are wrong.

03:46:51.180 Getting back into the notes here for, no, it's fine.

03:46:54.600 Jazz, so, like I said, there was a bit of back and forth.

03:46:57.900 You said that our ideas, so I suppose me and Andrew, our ideas about gender are fundamentally

03:47:03.520 so different that it would be a waste for us to have the conversation that I suppose

03:47:10.380 we are having, have been having, and are about to have.

03:47:13.640 Can you clarify what ideas about gender are fundamental that me and Andrew is so fundamentally

03:47:20.940 different?

03:47:21.460 You guys define gender as biological, and I disagree on that baseline, so we fundamentally

03:47:29.600 disagree on the idea of gender.

03:47:30.980 That's incorrect.

03:47:32.380 Neither Brian nor myself would define gender.

03:47:34.260 Oh, what is your definition of gender?

03:47:36.040 Yeah, so I'll explain.

03:47:37.360 Also, it's nice to meet you.

03:47:38.660 I haven't seen you.

03:47:41.100 I've seen like a clip recently, but.

03:47:43.440 Oh, so her criticisms were just towards me, I guess.

03:47:46.220 Well, Andrew's part of the convo, so we'll, go ahead.

03:47:48.780 Sorry, Andrew, go ahead.

03:47:49.420 Yeah, so we would say that sex was a biological category, and gender would be a socially constructed

03:47:54.840 category.

03:47:56.400 Oh, okay.

03:47:56.920 Gender is trying, yeah, so gender is trying to allude to some type, now I would disagree 0.92

03:48:01.480 with the descriptive of what you consider gender to be, that's true, but no, we would be able

03:48:08.380 to separate these two concepts with ease.

03:48:10.740 Okay, yeah, I agree as well that gender is a social construct, but you think that the way

03:48:16.440 it exists, maybe not today, but a couple years ago, or decades ago, that male, men have a role

03:48:22.740 in society, and women have a role in society based off of their. 1.00

03:48:25.620 Neither role, yeah, well, by necessity, so can men reproduce? 0.99

03:48:32.880 No.

03:48:33.920 No, so which sex do we have to count on to reproduce? 0.90

03:48:36.900 Sure, but why are you harping on reproduction so much?

03:48:39.300 Because you claim that there's no gender roles, right?

03:48:44.440 That these are, that it's a blank slate, that people can do whatever they want, but the truth

03:48:49.280 is, is that we have to have a society, and that's going to require reproduction, right?

03:48:53.180 Do you not think that there would be some sort of balance when it comes to-

03:48:56.900 Before you ask me a question, can you do me the service of answering mine?

03:49:00.440 Oh, sorry, repeat your question.

03:49:01.760 Yeah, so, is it the case that women are the only ones who can reproduce? 1.00

03:49:08.080 Yes.

03:49:09.140 Okay, so if that's the case, then help me out with this.

03:49:12.740 If we want to have a society, we need women to reproduce, right? 1.00

03:49:18.880 Yes.

03:49:20.300 So if we need women to reproduce, why wouldn't we tailor society in such a way which was conducive 1.00

03:49:27.500 to female reproduction, and men who can't reproduce, not reproducing, but providing the services

03:49:34.240 in which their body archetype is designed for, why wouldn't we do that?

03:49:39.160 Well, do you think every woman should reproduce? 1.00

03:49:41.560 Hang on, answer my question first.

03:49:44.080 Well, I'm getting there, though.

03:49:45.560 You're asking why wouldn't we-

03:49:46.820 You're not getting, you don't answer a question by asking one, you answer a question by answering

03:49:50.800 it, and then I'll answer yours.

03:49:52.000 So start with this, why is it that you don't want to tailor society towards females reproducing 0.97

03:49:59.420 since they're the only ones who can, and men towards doing the hard labor jobs and the

03:50:05.520 dangerous jobs, which basically only they can do as well?

03:50:08.940 Why would you not want society conditioned that way?

03:50:11.500 Because I think it's extremely limiting to the human experience.

03:50:14.540 I think women are more than just birth givers. 1.00

03:50:17.500 And can women have an experience if they're not fucking born? 1.00

03:50:23.480 No. 1.00

03:50:24.740 Okay.

03:50:25.760 Now I'm willing to listen to your line of inquiry.

03:50:30.940 Go ahead.

03:50:31.440 Do you think every woman should reproduce? 1.00

03:50:33.640 Do you think that if the roles weren't the way that they are, or the way that you want

03:50:38.300 them to be, where you need a woman to reproduce? 1.00

03:50:40.860 Yeah, so again, when you ask a monolithic question, the answer to your question is no.

03:50:44.700 I wouldn't say every woman on planet Earth needs to reproduce, but that's kind of beside 1.00

03:50:49.760 the point.

03:50:50.820 The truth is, is that we still need to have reproduction in order to have a society.

03:50:55.120 So even if it's the case that like women without uteruses can't reproduce, or women who can't 1.00

03:51:00.040 menstruate can't reproduce, or women who can't have eggs can't reproduce, or even some women 1.00

03:51:04.520 just are so untailored towards motherhood they can't, I would still think that you would

03:51:08.900 want the social conditions for reproduction to be the thing you focused on.

03:51:13.400 Because otherwise you don't have human beings.

03:51:15.700 Yes.

03:51:16.160 So do you think that reproduction wouldn't occur anymore if the roles weren't as they

03:51:21.700 are now?

03:51:22.520 As a matter of fact, I don't.

03:51:25.500 And here's my proof.

03:51:26.900 What's the birth rate in every single Western country in most of the world?

03:51:31.380 Is it above or below reproduction rates?

03:51:33.720 So you need to have, mommy and daddy need to have two babies in order to replace mommy and 1.00

03:51:42.640 daddy, right?

03:51:44.400 Are mommy and daddy having two babies to replace mommy and daddy right now? 0.70

03:51:48.320 No, they're not.

03:51:52.120 Well, that's really weird.

03:51:54.660 It's almost like when we apply your insane ideology of non-specific gender roles and moving 0.99

03:52:01.280 the social conditioning to move women into the marketplace workforce where they're fucking 1.00

03:52:05.840 miserable, it's not conducive to reproduction. 0.99

03:52:08.980 Now, under my worldview, which is the right worldview, I would tailor society towards females and reproduction, 1.00

03:52:15.880 which would include staunch gender roles. 0.98

03:52:18.740 And then we would actually have a society.

03:52:21.020 And that excludes men pretending to be women.

03:52:24.760 Hang on, hang on.

03:52:25.860 Your society is being replaced, literally replaced by immigrants because our societies can't reproduce 1.00

03:52:32.820 themselves.

03:52:35.240 Would you not suggest that maybe women should just have more resources to help them? 0.92

03:52:41.680 Wait, you want women to have more resources? 1.00

03:52:44.300 To help with childbearing and then...

03:52:47.620 Yeah, so here's the biggest resource I want to give to women that'll help them the most

03:52:50.960 with childcare, time.

03:52:53.920 The ultimate resource that every rich man will tell you is the one thing that they can never

03:52:59.320 get back.

03:53:00.260 It's the one thing that you spend and never comes back to you.

03:53:03.920 Yeah, I would give them time.

03:53:05.700 And you know how you give women lots and lots of time? 0.99

03:53:07.980 You try to move the social conditions so that they can stay fucking home with their kids. 1.00

03:53:14.340 And then what do they have the most amount of abundance of? 0.97

03:53:16.940 Time.

03:53:17.940 The one irreplaceable thing.

03:53:21.300 So if you want to give women resources and stuff, right?

03:53:25.380 I don't think stuff is going to do it.

03:53:27.140 I think that time is what does it.

03:53:28.920 If you're going to spend most of your day away from your child, how is that conducive to

03:53:33.120 reproduction? 0.84

03:53:33.620 How does that help us reproduce, exactly?

03:53:37.060 The government did that to keep us separated and segregated to get more tax money.

03:53:42.840 The feminist movement did.

03:53:44.500 To indoctrinate our children.

03:53:46.440 Actually, the feminist movement did. 1.00

03:53:47.940 Okay.

03:53:48.520 It did.

03:53:48.940 It did.

03:53:49.740 It really did.

03:53:50.920 The original, it did.

03:53:52.160 And that's why we're here now.

03:53:54.600 That's why we're here now.

03:53:56.500 That's why we're here now.

03:53:57.540 Thank you, Santa Janet.

03:53:58.440 You are gorgeous, girl.

03:53:59.280 I think you are gorgeous.

03:54:00.880 Wait.

03:54:01.940 I'm so sorry.

03:54:02.720 Wait, this is for you.

03:54:04.200 Four, five, six, seven.

03:54:04.900 Thank you.

03:54:05.880 Oh, I thought you were eight.

03:54:07.100 I'm so sorry.

03:54:07.940 That's okay.

03:54:09.280 You were gorgeous, too.

03:54:10.920 Did you have a response to Andrew or?

03:54:12.560 Yeah.

03:54:12.880 Again, I just think it's a really limiting stance.

03:54:17.420 Me, personally, I don't think I would find my ultimate purpose and value in having children.

03:54:24.400 I really want a career myself.

03:54:27.160 You wouldn't have to.

03:54:27.980 Like, don't you understand that through the illusion of you thinking that you're promoting

03:54:32.240 choice, you're promoting prison ideology.

03:54:36.160 The very idea that you have is because you would not be happy being a mommy. 0.98

03:54:41.080 You want to go in the workforce or some shit like that and go work for a boss in a cubicle 0.99

03:54:44.660 and complain about how cold it is to the HR lady. 1.00

03:54:47.880 Because that's your dream.

03:54:49.100 See, the assumption there is that all of society should be tailored towards this thing that

03:54:54.240 you want. 0.98

03:54:55.460 You can still do that shit, but why wouldn't you try to move society towards the idea of 0.99

03:55:01.240 reproduction and the cross-generational or nuclear family, the backbone of all societies, 0.99

03:55:07.280 the family unit?

03:55:08.440 Why would you not want to move society towards that?

03:55:11.120 Even if you want to go have your cushy little air-conditioned job and not reproduce. 0.98

03:55:15.660 I hate that women have to choose between raising a child and having a successful career. 1.00

03:55:22.680 They don't.

03:55:23.280 Yeah, exactly.

03:55:24.440 But here's the thing, right?

03:55:26.680 But what you're saying right there is that you would prefer to limit.

03:55:30.680 You would prefer to create limits.

03:55:32.560 I hate that they have to choose, right?

03:55:34.980 Guess what?

03:55:35.580 They didn't always have to choose.

03:55:37.680 That wasn't always the case.

03:55:38.840 Yeah, they didn't have a choice before.

03:55:40.500 It was just their children.

03:55:41.920 Yeah, but why is it such a bad thing to tailor society towards the idea that society can reproduce

03:55:48.780 itself, even if it limits choice?

03:55:51.180 But reproduction doesn't... 0.99

03:55:52.220 Like, we limit choice for everything.

03:55:53.260 It's a good idea to limit choice.

03:55:54.880 Reproduction isn't going to stop happening.

03:55:56.400 There are still plenty of women who want to bear many children, more than one, more than 1.00

03:56:01.660 two, and...

03:56:02.680 I would like to read for you something here.

03:56:06.380 I would like to read for you the birth rate in South Korea.

03:56:12.140 The birth rate in South Korea is 0.78 births per woman.

03:56:18.540 0.78.

03:56:20.580 Not one.

03:56:21.680 It's not one child per woman on average.

03:56:24.640 It's less than one child per woman on average.

03:56:27.320 Now, you can watch this on a flow chart from 1960 to 2000, completely bottom out into next

03:56:34.020 to nothing.

03:56:35.720 South Korea isn't going to be there in 200 years, or even 100 years.

03:56:40.180 If they continue on track, it's going to go...

03:56:42.320 They're estimating it goes as low as 0.38, right?

03:56:46.320 That is civilization ending.

03:56:49.400 Do they happen to have a...

03:56:50.620 For what? 1.00

03:56:51.140 So that you can make a fucking sandwich for a boss somewhere? 1.00

03:56:54.280 Like, what is that? 1.00

03:56:55.500 Do you...

03:56:55.980 So let me ask you this.

03:56:56.980 I'll just ask you that.

03:56:57.720 I've asked many feminists this. 1.00

03:56:59.420 I already know the answer, but I'll ask you anyway.

03:57:01.400 If it were the case that we limited women's rights in some capacity, but ended up with 1.00

03:57:07.320 a thriving reproductive society, or the alternative is that society just ceased to exist because

03:57:12.980 it could not reproduce itself, but women had no rights limited, would you select for the 1.00

03:57:19.380 society being wiped out or for rights being somewhat limited for women?

03:57:23.060 I just don't think that's what's happening.

03:57:24.720 I do have a question.

03:57:25.280 Answer the question.

03:57:26.200 Answer the question.

03:57:30.680 I mean, it's like...

03:57:32.160 It's a question that wouldn't realistically happen.

03:57:34.520 I have a question about your previous...

03:57:36.100 It's designed to test your logic.

03:57:37.960 I know it's not going to happen.

03:57:39.200 Well, I have a question about your previous statistic.

03:57:40.860 Listen, if I asked you if a meteorite struck right next door and started a big fire, would

03:57:46.840 you evacuate the building?

03:57:48.520 You say yes.

03:57:49.700 It's not really going to happen, right?

03:57:51.860 But the point is to test what you would do.

03:57:53.860 So I'm going to give it to you again, hypothetical again.

03:57:56.620 If it were the case that we limited women's rights to some degree, but saw an explosion in 1.00

03:58:01.580 reproduction, or we didn't limit women's rights to some degree, and society 0.97

03:58:05.820 ceased to exist in 50 years or 60 years, which one would you select for?

03:58:10.760 Which one would you prefer?

03:58:13.160 I don't think...

03:58:14.820 Answer the question.

03:58:16.520 I am answering the question.

03:58:17.960 All right.

03:58:18.300 I don't think what you're saying, like limiting women's rights would, or taking away their

03:58:27.600 rights, like saying that they should just be homemakers, I don't...

03:58:30.420 Traditional is if it were the case that, so if it were the case that limiting women's 1.00

03:58:36.280 rights slightly, and men's even, you limit both their rights slightly, right, led to a

03:58:40.740 more reproductive and happy society, or you limited their rights in some capacity, would 0.71

03:58:47.280 you prefer, but that led to society ceased to exist in 50 years, which would you select

03:58:52.560 for?

03:58:52.860 I'm not asking whether you think that that would happen or not, so which one would you

03:58:57.360 select for?

03:58:59.200 I would go with the first, but I also don't think that that would be the outcome.

03:59:04.440 Which is what?

03:59:04.540 What's the first?

03:59:05.060 Tell us what that is.

03:59:07.020 If you're...

03:59:08.180 It's just like extreme absolutes that wouldn't happen, so I really can't make a decision.

03:59:13.420 You don't know, you can't decide on whether or not the human species ceasing to exist and

03:59:19.940 your society ceasing to exist would be preferable over slightly limiting some of your rights.

03:59:26.620 You don't know the answer to that question, and you wonder why it is that so many people

03:59:31.220 gravitate...

03:59:31.460 Because I don't think those are necessarily the exact outcomes that would happen.

03:59:34.200 Do you understand why so many more people gravitate towards my ideology than they do feminism?

03:59:38.700 Because when you ask a person this question, it's such an easy answer, but feminists can't 1.00

03:59:43.460 actually answer it because they know that the truth is, is that rather than be limited 0.98

03:59:48.540 one iota, you would rather see society not fucking exist anymore. 0.91

03:59:52.700 But if roles were reversed, if men were limited to just the house and they couldn't have passions 0.98

03:59:57.480 and success, you would feel...

03:59:59.100 You're not limited to just the house.

04:00:01.440 I didn't say that.

04:00:02.480 I said if you had some of your rights slightly limited, we have our rights slightly limited

04:00:05.820 right now.

04:00:06.380 I have limited rights on free speech, I can be drafted, Brian can be drafted, the men

04:00:12.180 all watching can be drafted.

04:00:13.780 We have all sorts of limits on our rights and all sorts of duties associated with us.

04:00:18.080 So tell me, since, yeah, and it would be preferable for me if there was a slight limit on men's 0.99

04:00:22.780 rights, but it led to a reproductive society, I would definitely prefer that. 1.00

04:00:27.220 So like, which one for you?

04:00:29.820 Again, I think these are absolutes that just wouldn't happen.

04:00:32.460 Yeah, I know, but if they did happen, which one would you select for?

04:00:35.140 Um, I would want, okay, if it, if those were the absolutes that I have to choose from,

04:00:40.940 I would want, um, society to continue to exist.

04:00:44.520 So limiting women's rights. 1.00

04:00:46.600 But I do not believe that restricting their rights and, um, would end, would, would stop

04:00:55.120 reproduction completely.

04:00:56.140 I think we wouldn't have an issue.

04:00:57.680 And I know you give that statistic in North Korea, but I do have a question is if they have

04:01:01.200 a limit to how many children that they can't have.

04:01:03.920 Nope.

04:01:04.760 There's no limit?

04:01:06.260 Nope.

04:01:06.660 It's not China. 0.85

04:01:07.580 And China got rid of the one-child policy as well.

04:01:09.700 There's no limit.

04:01:10.240 Okay.

04:01:10.560 Well, I was just wondering, because I was trying to conceptualize that, um, statistic.

04:01:14.040 So here, let me give you an easy thing that you could do to tailor this that would make

04:01:19.280 a massive rebound for reproduction.

04:01:21.200 Let's see if you would actually go for it.

04:01:23.180 Now that you've agreed you would rather see society thrive.

04:01:26.460 If it was the case that we promoted that women did not go to college, right, but used 1.00

04:01:32.220 those childbearing years, which is their 20s, in order to have a family and reproduce instead, 0.73

04:01:38.760 uh, we would see an explosion in reproduction in the United States.

04:01:42.240 And I know this because the correlation between women going to higher education and the birth

04:01:48.500 rate dropping, you can literally draw a line parallel to each other.

04:01:52.800 Because they defer, uh, their childbearing years until they're in their 30s, that's why

04:01:57.020 they have so, uh, so many less children, right?

04:02:00.560 So would you be against a campaign which, which said to women, hey, you can still go to college, 0.81

04:02:07.520 but you should do it later in life, after your 20s, after your reproductive years, and

04:02:13.220 instead you should use those reproductive years to try to settle down with a family. 0.98

04:02:17.720 Would you be against a campaign like that?

04:02:19.760 If we're in a reproductive crisis, maybe. 0.93

04:02:22.660 But again, I don't think every woman's, um, dream or, um, value is in the fact that they 1.00

04:02:31.660 can bear a child.

04:02:32.700 And that's just a personal opinion.

04:02:33.880 And I, I don't think.

04:02:34.640 What other?

04:02:34.940 Well, okay.

04:02:35.660 Yeah, I don't, I know you don't agree.

04:02:36.860 In fact, let's just dive down that road.

04:02:39.120 What other value?

04:02:40.080 What do you think is more valuable?

04:02:41.520 I mean, we're humans.

04:02:42.780 We're like the most, um.

04:02:44.320 Yeah, I know you're humans, but what is the more valuable thing that, that a woman can 1.00

04:02:48.400 do rather than give us children?

04:02:50.040 Well, I mean, I just, in a broader sense, our existence, I don't think we can, your existence

04:02:55.360 is more valuable than giving.

04:02:57.540 Well, I don't want to limit it to just reproducing where humans with experiences and nuances

04:03:03.700 women's only value is not reproduction. 1.00

04:03:05.560 Name a single thing that's more valuable a woman can bring than reproduction. 1.00

04:03:08.820 What, what is a more valuable thing a woman can do than reproduce? 1.00

04:03:11.300 What, uh, I'd say take care of their community.

04:03:16.540 I don't necessarily think that they're only valued.

04:03:19.160 Well, is there a community if the women aren't reproducing? 1.00

04:03:21.440 I don't think all men are, I mean, all women are going to stop reproducing at one time. 0.96

04:03:25.420 This is just like an outlandish absolute that wouldn't ever exist.

04:03:27.980 They're already stopping reproduction. 0.87

04:03:30.120 We have the data I just showed it to you.

04:03:32.260 It's not just there.

04:03:33.280 Do you want to see what it is in the United States?

04:03:35.520 It's, it's dropping like a rock here too.

04:03:38.220 They are not reproducing.

04:03:39.500 That's one and two, if it is the case that you can, that taking care of the community

04:03:45.320 is more valuable than childbirth, then why wouldn't you advocate that no women gave child 1.00

04:03:50.100 birth to children and instead just took care of their community? 0.51

04:03:53.240 They're probably not reproducing anymore because men think that their only value is in giving 0.89

04:03:58.300 birth, which is just not true.

04:04:00.080 Oh, gee, that makes a lot of sense.

04:04:01.820 Oh, Hey, you, we have this really, really valuable thing that you can do.

04:04:05.520 And I can't do it and neither can any male on planet earth.

04:04:09.520 Wow.

04:04:09.820 That's amazing.

04:04:10.820 How dare you say that that's the most valuable thing that I can do, even though I agree with

04:04:14.720 you.

04:04:16.080 You think that that makes sense?

04:04:17.700 Like who here can name a single thing that is more valuable than female reproduction from 0.98

04:04:24.060 a female? 0.98

04:04:24.780 What is more valuable than that?

04:04:28.120 Any takers?

04:04:29.960 I'm nothing, nothing.

04:04:31.360 Wow.

04:04:31.720 I can think of some things, but I can't.

04:04:34.980 I'm not denoting its value.

04:04:36.880 I'm not saying like, it's a beautiful thing.

04:04:39.180 And for the people who want to participate in that, that is great for them.

04:04:41.760 Everyone says it's like, that's their meaning in life when they have children.

04:04:45.720 And like the love is just unconditional and all of these things.

04:04:48.960 But I think it's just, again, limiting to the human experience.

04:04:52.540 And if men collectively only view women as something to reproduce in.

04:04:59.780 There's something I've been wanting to ask you since I've been listening to you tonight.

04:05:02.900 And I'm going to give you the floor, right, for this, because I want to hear it in the

04:05:06.100 worst way.

04:05:07.600 Let's pretend that you're playing a video game where you have to organize society, okay?

04:05:14.160 And you note that one people group in the video game are twice as strong as the other,

04:05:19.900 right, and they don't have as much trouble with hormone regulation. 1.00

04:05:25.380 The other sex of the video game or the other people group in the video game, they happen

04:05:30.420 to be the ones that can have the babies and they're a weaker sex, right, and they have 1.00

04:05:35.880 a little bit more trouble with hormone regulation.

04:05:38.920 Now, you want to see that society thrive.

04:05:41.820 How would you organize it as the video game player?

04:05:45.560 It's sim world.

04:05:47.420 Those are your parameters.

04:05:48.700 How would you organize this thriving society?

04:05:53.080 I think we're way more complex than a Sims game where you just want to create.

04:05:58.400 Yeah, I know.

04:05:58.800 But inside of the Sims game, how would you organize the society?

04:06:03.220 Similar to how you suggest we should do it in our society right now.

04:06:06.920 Isn't that amazing?

04:06:07.820 For a video game where they're not humans and they're not complex and they don't have aspirations

04:06:12.560 outside of reproduction.

04:06:13.720 Isn't it amazing that when you ask a feminist this question, they want to organize society 1.00

04:06:18.020 exactly how I want to in order to beat the game.

04:06:20.540 If those are the parameters, you've given us the craziest parameters.

04:06:24.000 Like these are... 0.92

04:06:24.460 The craziest parameters that you have a stronger sex that's twice as strong as the other and 0.63

04:06:28.220 one sex can reproduce.

04:06:29.580 You mean all of human experience?

04:06:30.800 But that doesn't mean that's all we're meant for just because we're the only ones that

04:06:34.780 can do it.

04:06:35.340 It doesn't mean that's our only...

04:06:36.500 What else are we meant for?

04:06:37.500 The reason you keep monolithically saying we're all only meant for X, right?

04:06:42.060 Most women are meant for reproduction. 1.00

04:06:44.360 Yes, you all have reproductive organs so that you can reproduce.

04:06:48.460 Men also, guess what?

04:06:50.400 They're designed for reproduction. 1.00

04:06:51.820 The reason their dicks get hard and they want to put them inside a woman's vagina is because 1.00

04:06:56.960 they're biologically engineered to fucking reproduce. 1.00

04:07:00.780 That's why. 1.00

04:07:02.080 And so the reason they look at you and they're like, wow, she's got big old tits and nice 1.00

04:07:06.500 little voluptuous hips or whatever it is that they say, it's because, right, they're looking 1.00

04:07:11.500 at you as a vessel for a child from a biological perspective. 0.99

04:07:15.840 That's how all of fucking humanity is organized and how all of humanity has always organized. 0.98

04:07:20.600 Now, I would like you as the video game player to show me your new humanity and how it's 0.99

04:07:25.040 organized. 0.98

04:07:25.740 I can't fucking wait. 0.98

04:07:28.760 Have you heard about them reproducing or making children from potentially from the bone marrow 0.99

04:07:39.420 of women and their egg?

04:07:42.320 Great.

04:07:43.320 You know what?

04:07:44.080 I wish to God that the test tube babies could actually happen absent female eggs. 1.00

04:07:50.580 Do you know why?

04:07:51.780 Because the one power that women do have in society is the power over reproduction. 1.00

04:07:57.180 And I would love to see what happened if men then had the power over reproduction. 0.68

04:08:01.500 I think that your ideas of being an equal citizen and things like that with men would completely

04:08:07.580 deteriorate to non-existence if men had the power over their own reproduction. 0.98

04:08:12.000 Imagine a man could just go and make the type of baby that he wanted, absent ever having 0.97

04:08:18.860 to have a long-term relationship with a woman.

04:08:21.420 Wouldn't they prioritize that?

04:08:23.240 And what do you think happens to the rights of women then? 1.00

04:08:25.540 I think the case is that you still need the female egg, but in a world you're saying...

04:08:34.940 And how many female eggs can you get? 1.00

04:08:36.960 You can get a lot of them. 1.00

04:08:38.600 Hey, if you'll sell your assholes on OnlyFans, I'm pretty sure you'll sell your eggs for a few 1.00

04:08:42.820 thousand bucks. 0.99

04:08:43.500 Anyway, I mean, my take is just that I think it's extremely limiting to assume women's roles 1.00

04:08:54.580 in society, even if it...

04:08:56.440 Again, we're not in a reproductive crisis.

04:08:58.720 Like, this is, like, extremes that we're discussing.

04:09:01.940 I'll tell you what.

04:09:03.200 Show me, then, the society that you would organize and how it would thrive, absent those narrow 1.00

04:09:08.380 gender roles where you have one sex, which is twice as strong as the other and can't reproduce. 1.00

04:09:12.560 The other is half as strong and can reproduce. 0.99

04:09:16.260 How the fuck would you organize society better? 0.99

04:09:18.780 How? 0.99

04:09:19.500 How?

04:09:22.760 Yeah.

04:09:24.180 Nothing.

04:09:24.960 Crickets.

04:09:25.480 Because can't be done.

04:09:27.160 Because the only logical thing would be to take the, oh, you're twice as strong as this 0.98

04:09:31.420 sex, let's put you in all the strength roles, and this sex, which is much weaker than you 0.79

04:09:35.900 and can reproduce, we should probably put them in the nurturing roles. 0.98

04:09:39.420 You know this.

04:09:40.220 It's intuitive.

04:09:40.840 Everybody knows it just by looking at it.

04:09:43.400 But right now, you have the opportunity of a lifetime. 1.00

04:09:46.060 You can make me look so fucking stupid. 1.00

04:09:48.300 All you'd have to do is point out how you would organize society absent that. 1.00

04:09:53.740 Go ahead.

04:09:54.620 I just think we're way beyond the necessity to have a structure that consists of what

04:09:59.940 you're suggesting.

04:10:01.100 How are we beyond that?

04:10:02.960 Do you think that women are going to go get a hard hat and start logging, or what? 1.00

04:10:06.060 If that's their passion, sure.

04:10:07.960 I don't see the reason in limiting their existence to just reproducing. 0.99

04:10:12.060 You're not, they're not limited right now, and they don't do any of those fucking jobs. 0.94

04:10:15.920 They don't log, they're not linemen, they're not inside of the electrical fields, they're 0.99

04:10:19.920 not inside of the trades, they don't do any of that shit. 0.99

04:10:22.480 They get degrees in nursing, and in psychology, and they work in fucking office jobs, and they 0.99

04:10:27.800 work as servers, and they do the same top 10 jobs that they've done for the last 100 years. 1.00

04:10:32.540 The same shit. 0.99

04:10:33.620 Tell me how they're limited right now. 1.00

04:10:35.940 How?

04:10:36.820 Because we exist in the roles that you're suggesting is the best.

04:10:40.220 Because, because why?

04:10:42.120 Because those are the roles that you're capable of doing, and that's why women select for 1.00

04:10:46.480 them.

04:10:47.240 Why do you think women don't select to be plumbers? 1.00

04:10:49.780 Why do you think they don't select to be loggers, even though they can?

04:10:52.500 Why do you think they don't select to be linemen? 1.00

04:10:54.820 Why do you think they don't select for jobs which fucking kill you? 0.99

04:10:57.580 Which is why you see the rate of death from women in the workforce is basically 0%, and 0.99

04:11:02.960 for men, it's overwhelmingly high.

04:11:05.120 Why do you think women select for those jobs? 1.00

04:11:07.220 Why?

04:11:11.440 Because of all the reasons you've suggested here.

04:11:14.540 Because those are the ones they can do.

04:11:16.180 And I'm just saying, as a counter-argument, that I think that's limiting.

04:11:19.500 I think a lot of women would find success in male-dominant roles. 1.00

04:11:22.280 I'm sorry that you're limited by your own existence.

04:11:24.460 No, it's by your structure.

04:11:26.480 It's not just our own existence.

04:11:27.400 You should go, and you should complain to God that he limited your existence to how you

04:11:31.400 exist.

04:11:32.020 But the truth of the matter is, is that you couldn't organize society any other way.

04:11:36.580 I just gave you the force so you could demonstrate it.

04:11:38.840 You couldn't.

04:11:39.940 All right?

04:11:40.280 I asked you why it is that women, when they have free choice, still don't choose any of 1.00

04:11:44.140 these dangerous jobs that men do. 0.96

04:11:45.660 You couldn't explain that either, except to say it's because those are the ones that they

04:11:48.720 can do.

04:11:49.980 Right?

04:11:50.360 How would you organize society differently?

04:11:52.220 How?

04:11:54.580 I'm saying we have opportunity now to not have to force women to just reproduce or limit- 0.98

04:12:01.680 They were never forced-

04:12:02.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:12:03.580 ...to reproduce.

04:12:05.560 But you said, like-

04:12:06.260 Societal roles were set up where it was conducive.

04:12:08.300 It's like, and you know what else is so funny about this?

04:12:10.700 It's like, oh, no.

04:12:12.500 Oh, my God. 0.98

04:12:13.380 I don't have to work and have to stay in this fucking nice house all day and take care of 0.99

04:12:17.320 my- Oh, my God. 0.99

04:12:18.300 Oh, the humanity.

04:12:19.060 Oh, the humanity.

04:12:20.280 Oh, well, how could you do this to me?

04:12:23.980 Oh, and women didn't have to- 1.00

04:12:25.600 They couldn't get credit cards.

04:12:26.840 Oh, but they got no debt.

04:12:28.420 Oh, my God.

04:12:29.180 There's no debt.

04:12:30.500 Oh, no.

04:12:31.320 Not no debt for women.

04:12:33.200 They didn't have to get drafted.

04:12:34.900 Right?

04:12:35.260 They didn't have to join the fire brigade in order to vote.

04:12:37.660 They didn't have to be subject to poll voting laws like men did. 0.97

04:12:41.660 Oh, my God. 1.00

04:12:42.620 Women, they're so fucking oppressed. 1.00

04:12:44.440 Oh, God. 1.00

04:12:45.360 It's like, what are you talking about?

04:12:47.540 When I look at the historical standard for feminism, I think to myself, you had it made 1.00

04:12:52.580 in the fucking shade and you fucked it all up. 1.00

04:12:54.600 What are you, stupid? 1.00

04:12:56.080 Like, if you took the same amount of men and you organized it so you could stay at fucking 1.00

04:13:00.620 home all day and incur no debt, basically get whatever the fuck you wanted, and be subject 0.99

04:13:05.240 to limited amounts of lawfare against you, they'd be like, yeah, I'm taking that fucking 0.99

04:13:11.100 deal. 0.99

04:13:11.860 What cigarette is smoking, man?

04:13:14.880 Barbro.

04:13:15.180 Andrew's jealous.

04:13:16.000 Oh, Barbro. 1.00

04:13:16.840 Shit. 1.00

04:13:18.200 What the filter? 1.00

04:13:19.220 Hell yeah.

04:13:21.020 Yeah.

04:13:23.440 Here, let's make you feel better.

04:13:25.560 Here.

04:13:26.660 Get rid of the filter.

04:13:27.580 Why do you like me and Mark?

04:13:28.780 There you go.

04:13:30.520 Just need to know.

04:13:32.600 Is argument over?

04:13:33.640 Man, back in the day.

04:13:34.760 I feel like that we came to a conclusion.

04:13:36.480 Yeah.

04:13:36.800 Mom, the filters. 1.00

04:13:38.500 Yeah.

04:13:38.720 It's just running in circles.

04:13:40.520 That was cool.

04:13:41.360 I love it.

04:13:42.700 We do have some more, so why don't we, let's see if there's any, I'm going to let the chat

04:13:49.900 come through the TTS.

04:13:51.740 We have others below the threshold that we're going to batch up.

04:13:54.760 But I did want to go quick, Brian.

04:13:56.440 I'll just let this one thing, one thing, and then go ahead.

04:14:00.420 There are definitely many of you that shouldn't reproduce.

04:14:03.680 Like 62.5% of this panel.

04:14:07.460 Well, 12.5% can't.

04:14:10.900 Chair one and two, please do not pass on that intelligence, or lack thereof.

04:14:16.560 Wait, what?

04:14:17.040 Clayton, thank you.

04:14:17.780 Sorry for the delay on that.

04:14:19.240 Sorry for the delay on pulling that up.

04:14:20.300 I did want to give her an opportunity if she wanted to cross-examine my worldview.

04:14:24.760 That's like, I'll just answer your questions without asking you any.

04:14:28.800 Okay.

04:14:29.000 If that was something that you wanted to do.

04:14:30.640 I am curious what you think of women who pursue work in male dominant roles, and vice 0.97

04:14:37.240 versa, men who want to find success.

04:14:40.000 I think that those women have always existed in a minority, but I think that tailoring society

04:14:45.960 in order to try to be super accommodating to a very, very small subset of society at

04:14:52.660 the expense of the greater society is a really bad idea.

04:14:55.960 Okay.

04:14:56.780 It's a terrible idea.

04:14:58.740 Moving on in your notes, you also wrote to me, some opinions don't deserve a debate because

04:15:04.040 it legitimizes the other side, which isn't based in any fact.

04:15:08.620 Can you give me some examples of opinions that I suppose I or Andrew have that doesn't

04:15:14.740 deserve a debate?

04:15:16.660 I recently saw a clip of Andrew debating whether rape is, oh, great.

04:15:24.100 And I don't know if this was out of context or not, but I'm just-

04:15:27.320 From Oliver?

04:15:28.480 Yeah.

04:15:29.340 Yeah.

04:15:29.820 So I'm going to tell you guys, I'm going to tell all of you, because I haven't had an

04:15:33.000 opportunity yet, because I just got home to counter clip and destroy Oliver for his lying.

04:15:37.780 And so he actually apologized on this podcast because he tried to infer that other people

04:15:45.340 who were on the podcast were PDFs, even though they clearly weren't.

04:15:48.640 He had to apologize for it when he was called out on it.

04:15:51.340 But here's the truth.

04:15:52.960 The reason that Oliver clips these things to make it look like everybody else is promoting

04:15:57.660 SA or various things like this, which, by the way, totally disingenuous.

04:16:00.780 That entire argument was based around grouping people as monoliths or not, and why you shouldn't

04:16:06.820 do that.

04:16:07.320 And I used SA as an example.

04:16:09.260 But he clipped it and cut it as though I was trying to promote that SA was okay.

04:16:14.320 Oliver has been involved in multiple scandals where he, when he was younger, was flashing

04:16:21.520 underage girls.

04:16:22.560 And so what he's done as part of his rebrand is be super ultra super feminist and pretend

04:16:29.920 as part of his rebrand that that never happened.

04:16:32.780 And that's why he tries to label his opposition this way.

04:16:35.600 By the way, it's very common for leftists to do this.

04:16:38.680 They are usually guilty of that which they accuse you of.

04:16:42.320 Yeah.

04:16:42.900 And I saw the clip, Andrew.

04:16:45.000 I think I showed it to you originally when you were still in studio.

04:16:47.600 And it's leaving out critical context.

04:16:51.740 I mean, that was a five hour conversation.

04:16:54.800 There was, I think that's all over the internet.

04:16:57.660 You guys can go look.

04:16:58.740 But yeah, Oliver was basically run off of the internet for, without the woman's permission, 0.89

04:17:05.460 the underage girl's permission, flashing her.

04:17:08.520 And so that's why if you look at all of his content, he always is trying to promote that

04:17:15.680 he's like super ultra feminist as part of the shame ritual that leftists must go through

04:17:20.120 in order to be accepted by their side for forgiveness or whatever it is.

04:17:25.660 It's a, it's a literal shame ritual.

04:17:27.600 But that is why he tries to clip his opposition as though he's trying to defeat that idea,

04:17:33.780 even though that idea never came up to begin with.

04:17:36.720 Yeah.

04:17:36.860 And Andrew, how would you just quickly, I guess, respond to, it's pretty clear to me that

04:17:42.160 you were not advocating that essay is good, but that's the way people are the opposite.

04:17:47.760 Right.

04:17:47.940 What I was saying is what Oliver did is anytime I would make an argument, which would have

04:17:53.620 a large group of people, he'd say some people, but some people blah.

04:17:58.100 And I said, look, you wouldn't use that argument in reverse.

04:18:01.220 If I were to say it, could there be one woman on planet earth who enjoyed her own essay?

04:18:06.040 Then if I said, some people enjoy essay, would you accept that as an argument?

04:18:12.460 And he was like, well, no, of course not.

04:18:15.280 Right.

04:18:15.820 Which stands to reason, right?

04:18:18.000 Hold on.

04:18:18.360 Saying you can't group people monolithically that way.

04:18:21.920 And then look to the outliers in order to make your argument.

04:18:24.900 That was the whole point of the exchange.

04:18:26.640 But what he did was clipped it.

04:18:28.420 So that sounded like I was saying, oh, essay's fine.

04:18:31.680 That's great.

04:18:32.500 That's more essay.

04:18:33.360 Hey, if we could do more of it, great.

04:18:35.900 You know what I mean? 0.99

04:18:36.680 But that's the fundamental dishonest nature of progressive scumbags. 0.97

04:18:41.560 And Andrew, let me ask you this question and tell me if this is essentially what he did. 0.98

04:18:46.540 Let's say that Jazz here said the following. 0.97

04:18:50.480 It is wrong to say that black people are bad. 0.99

04:18:59.540 And what Oliver did is he started the clip where Jazz would have said, black people are bad. 0.98

04:19:08.260 Is that essentially what he did to you? 0.95

04:19:10.860 So he just...

04:19:11.860 Because he left out the critical context before where I was explaining to him, why do you keep saying, but some people?

04:19:20.320 If I used the same argument, right, to say, like, could some people enjoy their own essay, right?

04:19:28.120 You'd have to concede that logically that's at least possible.

04:19:31.840 And so he was like, the second that clicked with him, that he would actually have to logically say that that's possible.

04:19:38.180 He was trying to viscerally change the dynamic for me just trying to explain that's not how you logically debate. 0.97

04:19:45.100 into me trying to actually advocate for this fucking crazy thing. 0.92

04:19:49.360 I'm just pointing out the obvious that from your worldview, right, you can't just say some people X and that's an argument. 0.97

04:19:56.360 That's not an argument.

04:19:57.500 I do actually, really quick, I just want to give a shout out because Myron looks like he finished his stream and he sent us a raid or a host.

04:20:06.400 So I want to thank Myron Gaines from Fresh and Fit.

04:20:10.140 Thank you so much for the raid, man.

04:20:11.600 Really appreciate it.

04:20:12.660 That's very nice.

04:20:13.500 So moving on to the next thing here, and mind you, though, so you brought that up, that exchange with Oliver, although you sent me this prior to your, so your statement, again, is some opinions don't deserve a, excuse me, debate because it legitimizes the other side.

04:20:32.500 But you sent that to me before Andrew even had that debate with Oliver.

04:20:36.120 Can you give me examples of opinions that I've stated or whatever that doesn't deserve a debate?

04:20:41.780 Yeah, I don't necessarily know exactly what I was referring to, but I will say that I think the idea that women are just meant for reproduction is something that I don't agree with.

04:20:56.020 So I feel like we couldn't have a decent debate when we fundamentally disagree.

04:21:00.580 And again, it legitimizes your idea or your take that that is all women's. 1.00

04:21:04.540 Isn't that how you have the best debate?

04:21:06.180 Is that two people disagree?

04:21:07.740 Like, what do you think a debate is?

04:21:08.820 I'm sure that's why I'm here.

04:21:10.240 Hang on.

04:21:10.940 Do you think a debate is we agree on the topic and then shake hands and go, oh, yeah, we agree?

04:21:15.860 What do you think a debate is?

04:21:18.600 If we can't agree on, like, very baseline fundamental ideas, then I feel like it's very hard to get anywhere.

04:21:24.860 Like, I think after this.

04:21:26.260 They need to debate the fundamentals.

04:21:27.020 Well, I think after this, neither of us are going to have a different opinion.

04:21:30.700 It's not for you or I to have different opinions for the hundreds upon hundreds of thousands.

04:21:34.700 Yes, and that's why I'm here, and that's why inevitably I decided to come up.

04:21:37.860 But the thing is, like, that's what a debate is.

04:21:40.200 I have the opposite view.

04:21:42.420 I think that debating practically anything is, generally speaking, a fairly good idea for the health and welfare of society.

04:21:50.000 And I think it's due to the fact that we've had people who try to oppress certain views.

04:21:54.380 That's what makes those views prominent. 0.99

04:21:56.120 I think that if you didn't contain those views, leftists did this, progressives did this all over YouTube, they did it all over every platform like X when it was Twitter, we don't agree with your views, you're kicked the fuck out.

04:22:08.960 Well, what those people do is they band together, and they create brand new platforms, and they propagate the view completely unopposed.

04:22:16.460 Basically, most of the cringe-ass views that you probably hate, you're probably the most responsible for by refusing to actually confront them.

04:22:24.060 But just saying.

04:22:27.240 Sure.

04:22:27.840 Weren't the restrictions on Twitter originally hate speech, not necessarily restriction of free speech?

04:22:33.020 Yeah, but the problem is, is, like, if I say I don't believe that a man could be a woman, they consider that hate speech.

04:22:39.140 However, that was the prominent idea of the time.

04:22:44.140 The prominent idea for most people was that that was true.

04:22:48.800 It is true.

04:22:49.480 They still considered it hate, yeah, and they still considered that to be hate speech and removed you, even though that was the prominent idea.

04:22:54.900 Hate speech, there is no such thing as hate speech.

04:22:57.000 But the thing is, it's like.

04:22:58.060 There is no such thing as hate speech.

04:22:59.860 Hang on, hang on.

04:23:00.600 Well, okay.

04:23:01.760 But hang on.

04:23:02.700 The idea here that you get to arbitrarily define what is hateful and what is not hateful, even when we're talking about.

04:23:09.240 It doesn't matter.

04:23:10.560 Constitutionally, there's no hate speech.

04:23:13.200 Stop.

04:23:13.280 Just let him finish, please.

04:23:15.100 Yeah, I'm almost done, and then I'll turn it over.

04:23:16.980 I know I've been monologuing a bit, and you guys want to get involved, and I'm totally fine with that.

04:23:20.500 I'm just saying, from your view, right, when you get to define what that is, like, let's just imagine for a second that, like, Twitter was run by, like, a white nationalist.

04:23:33.640 And he was like, well, any time a black person says anything negative about white people, that's hate speech, right? 0.63

04:23:39.780 Would you be for that? 0.91

04:23:41.080 Probably not, right?

04:23:42.860 So, but the idea is, for some reason, leftists thought that they could contain the right by just deplatforming them, and the opposite happened.

04:23:51.100 What happened is that they just went unopposed. 1.00

04:23:54.660 It was very stupid. 1.00

04:23:55.840 It was a tactical mistake. 1.00

04:23:57.140 So, no, I believe 100% in debate.

04:23:59.140 I've seen leftists wipe the floor with right-wingers and vice versa, and it's like, some of those views change people's minds. 0.96

04:24:06.800 And what's happened instead is, like, dumbass leftists are like, no, we're just not going to give you a platform. 0.98

04:24:11.520 It's like, well, they just go make their own. 0.98

04:24:14.180 Like I said, there's no hate speech.

04:24:15.940 That's it.

04:24:17.160 So, to get back to it, you said some opinions don't deserve a debate, which aren't based in fact.

04:24:21.700 Can you just, like, quickly rapid-fire list out which claims have I made that are not based in fact, that aren't worthy of debate, and shouldn't be legitimized?

04:24:31.660 Yeah, it was, I just referenced this, but his idea that women's value is only in the fact that they can reproduce, I just don't agree.

04:24:42.600 Anything else?

04:24:43.740 Anything else?

04:24:44.500 No, no, no.

04:24:45.180 I know I'm giving you a headache, I'm just saying. 1.00

04:24:47.060 Why the fuck are you lying, though? 0.99

04:24:48.820 Like, why do you people do this to me constantly? 1.00

04:24:50.800 Why do you lie so much? 1.00

04:24:52.640 Did I actually say that women's only value is in reproduction, or did you just make that shit up? 1.00

04:24:59.540 That's what I thought you said, if you wanted to read. 0.99

04:25:01.520 Yeah, right, you only heard what you wanted to hear.

04:25:03.940 I said the most valuable.

04:25:07.080 Does that mean that they don't have other things that are valuable?

04:25:10.300 You asked me to suggest any other value, anything, because...

04:25:13.300 No, no, no, anything that was of higher value than that.

04:25:16.720 Oh, okay.

04:25:18.560 Do you see the distinction?

04:25:19.820 Yes, yes.

04:25:20.320 It's like, do you think that I just think that women are only valuable for the purposes of reproduction,

04:25:26.180 or do you think that I can still hold that that could be the most valuable thing a woman can do,

04:25:31.780 and still hold that they have many other values as well?

04:25:34.960 Yes, then I would agree.

04:25:37.540 So why did you instantly take the most negative connotation?

04:25:41.460 Andrew only believes women's value is that they can reproduce. 1.00

04:25:45.400 Why?

04:25:45.680 Because when you want to structure a society based on the fact that women reproduce, and 1.00

04:25:51.260 to exasperate reproduction, then I feel like that fundamentally means that you think that

04:25:57.240 that's their only use, is reproduction.

04:25:59.180 Why?

04:25:59.600 That doesn't even make sense.

04:26:01.920 I would also like to structure a society where some of the strongest men are firefighters.

04:26:06.540 Does that mean I think men's only use is fighting fires?

04:26:10.520 Oh.

04:26:12.740 Sorry, go ahead.

04:26:15.180 Wait, hold on.

04:26:16.000 We got Jungle here.

04:26:17.220 All right.

04:26:19.680 Back to back to back.

04:26:20.920 I'm going to do all of them.

04:26:22.220 I need three champagne bottles, please.

04:26:25.640 Yay! 0.99

04:26:26.360 He, he, he.

04:26:27.840 Wait, is this the Crystal? 0.91

04:26:29.900 Yo, Jungle's a freaking legend. 0.54

04:26:32.820 Thank you, Jungle.

04:26:33.480 We love, we love out.

04:26:35.140 Wait, is this Crystal?

04:26:37.700 No, it's just champagne.

04:26:39.960 Thank you, Jungle.

04:26:41.300 Brian, are you hungry?

04:26:43.680 Star Wars.

04:26:43.960 Are you going to order us pizza?

04:26:45.300 I would.

04:26:45.920 You want me to order you pizza?

04:26:47.060 I will.

04:26:47.580 Yeah, we can arrange that.

04:26:48.500 Okay, what do you want?

04:26:49.020 What do you want to do you guys want?

04:26:49.900 Hold on, hold on.

04:26:51.320 Don't talk about it on stream.

04:26:52.700 Sorry.

04:26:53.220 Oh.

04:26:54.920 Pop champagne.

04:26:56.020 I just want everyone to be happy.

04:26:57.860 Yeah, we should get food.

04:26:59.140 We can get food.

04:27:00.080 I can just tell you're hungry.

04:27:01.040 There's a lot to, I'm good.

04:27:03.300 There's a lot to get through, though.

04:27:04.220 Really?

04:27:04.260 You were so happy at the beginning.

04:27:05.340 Can we involve other people potentially?

04:27:07.560 Well, yes, but just because Andrew has limited time.

04:27:11.320 Love you, Andrew.

04:27:12.300 Wait, where's your wife, Andrew?

04:27:13.600 Hold on, hold on.

04:27:14.740 What, you want, you want Rachel? 0.98

04:27:16.440 You want the smoke from Rachel?

04:27:17.720 She'll smoke me, but I would say, where is she? 1.00

04:27:21.520 What about smoke?

04:27:22.260 Jungle donated $1,000.

04:27:24.820 What about smoke?

04:27:25.380 Yeah, Jungle, you're a legend.

04:27:26.960 Wait, hold on, Andrew.

04:27:28.160 Yeah, Jungle.

04:27:29.320 Andrew.

04:27:30.260 Cheers, boys.

04:27:31.780 Chair three, you're annoying. 1.00

04:27:33.560 Can you give me a third challenge?

04:27:34.700 Chair two, you're done.

04:27:35.380 Andrew, I think, you know, you got to have a little bit of some hard feelings towards Jungle

04:27:43.220 here because he is the architect of the, uh, the pickled, the, oh, no, I shouldn't.

04:27:51.680 The, the, the olive jar?

04:27:53.340 The, the, the jar that shall not be named.

04:27:56.060 Oh, my God.

04:27:56.860 Now I'm going to have a moment.

04:27:57.780 He's the Joe and the Vex. 0.76

04:27:58.360 The Vex.

04:27:59.060 The labia jar? 0.98

04:28:00.280 The feminist labia jar.

04:28:02.240 Here's the thing, right? 0.99

04:28:04.020 It's the grip.

04:28:04.820 If God wanted me to always take the W, right, then how could he keep me humble?

04:28:12.140 Sometimes you got to, sometimes you got to take an L.

04:28:14.820 Thank you.

04:28:15.380 Sometimes you have to take an L.

04:28:17.060 Look.

04:28:17.380 But here's the thing. 0.99

04:28:18.860 I've taken an L from an olive jar, but I've never taken a fucking L from a feminist. 1.00

04:28:24.380 I ain't never taken no fucking L from a feminist, and I ain't never gonna take an L from a fucking 1.00

04:28:28.900 feminist. 0.99

04:28:29.520 I, you know, there's so much misinformation about this, this clip.

04:28:33.780 Um, I should have spoken up more. 1.00

04:28:36.040 That shit was greased. 1.00

04:28:37.340 It was slippery. 1.00

04:28:38.320 Andrew, there was a moment where I, I touched the top.

04:28:40.780 It was greasy.

04:28:42.460 It was greasy, you know?

04:28:44.000 Did you guys grease it?

04:28:45.280 I'm confused.

04:28:46.560 No, I just.

04:28:47.100 I figured that you tightened.

04:28:48.340 I think.

04:28:49.500 Did y'all tighten it?

04:28:51.000 The top, the top of it, it could have been from the store, but it also could have been

04:28:54.820 because the chick was wearing hand lotion, but I don't know if she was. 1.00

04:28:57.600 Is that a twist?

04:28:58.400 No, it's not.

04:28:59.200 But women, women wear a lot of hand lotion. 1.00

04:29:01.380 Everything's a twist.

04:29:02.000 Like, basically, Brian, Brian couldn't get a grip of you.

04:29:05.340 Oh.

04:29:05.960 Sweet.

04:29:07.180 Good job, Brian.

04:29:08.820 Jake came over.

04:29:10.080 He had a damp paper towel because that assisted.

04:29:12.160 Wait, we get three?

04:29:13.240 Yep.

04:29:13.440 Oh my God.

04:29:14.640 Wait, who was the guy that donated that?

04:29:16.560 Uh, Jungle.

04:29:17.460 Love you, Jungle.

04:29:19.220 Yo, W's in the chat.

04:29:21.360 W's in the chat.

04:29:21.560 $1,000 for Andre, by the way.

04:29:22.820 Love you, Jungle.

04:29:23.560 You're the best.

04:29:24.320 Oh, my goodness.

04:29:24.800 Get me drunk, just saying.

04:29:26.960 We have a bottle of Cristal for one Ethereum, if somebody wants to.

04:29:31.220 How much is one Ethereum?

04:29:32.580 I feel like the feminine level has dropped drastically through this whole episode.

04:29:37.280 The what?

04:29:37.700 Feminism. 1.00

04:29:39.160 The what?

04:29:39.800 The feminism level has dropped.

04:29:41.820 It's dropped?

04:29:42.800 Yeah.

04:29:43.260 What do you mean?

04:29:44.000 We started in 90, and I feel like we're at like 69 right now.

04:29:47.600 Are you saying that Jazz really-

04:29:48.980 That's a little bit-

04:29:49.800 Well, I'm like the only-

04:29:50.720 I'm not attacking you.

04:29:51.860 I'm just, I hear you, and you're validated.

04:29:54.340 I did.

04:29:54.560 I did.

04:29:54.580 I did.

04:29:54.600 I did.

04:29:54.620 I did.

04:29:54.980 Yeah.

04:29:55.240 Because I used to be young and cute and be a little democratic, too.

04:29:59.860 But-

04:30:00.180 Oh, I'm not a democrat.

04:30:02.260 Okay, so what are you then?

04:30:02.820 Who did you vote for?

04:30:03.740 So what are you then?

04:30:05.200 Oh, my God.

04:30:05.940 I hear it's not going to pop.

04:30:09.220 It's okay.

04:30:09.980 I don't like these thoughts.

04:30:10.600 It's okay.

04:30:10.960 I totally hear you.

04:30:11.880 I used to feel the same way.

04:30:13.180 Was that Andre?

04:30:14.060 You're not wrong.

04:30:15.040 You're not-

04:30:15.740 It's nothing.

04:30:16.440 No, she's definitely wrong.

04:30:16.560 It's just different ways of thinking.

04:30:18.180 Oh, okay.

04:30:19.060 Definitely.

04:30:19.840 100% wrong.

04:30:20.040 But listen, she's young.

04:30:21.460 She's young.

04:30:22.140 I am, too.

04:30:23.020 I'm four years younger than her.

04:30:24.940 Hang on.

04:30:25.500 Hang on.

04:30:25.680 Wait, how old are you guys, too?

04:30:26.560 Let me ask you this.

04:30:26.840 Yeah.

04:30:27.500 Like, this is actually important.

04:30:28.540 You carry yourself very much.

04:30:30.160 Thank you.

04:30:30.640 I'm impressed.

04:30:31.080 I used to feel the same way.

04:30:32.360 To the gal in white who's speaking.

04:30:33.780 I'm sorry.

04:30:34.240 I wasn't here at the beginning, so I didn't catch all your names.

04:30:36.460 So if I call you by your clothing, it's not because I'm misogynist.

04:30:39.460 It's because I just didn't catch your names from the people.

04:30:40.800 It's fine.

04:30:41.920 No, I hear her-

04:30:43.240 You in the white.

04:30:45.100 No, it's okay.

04:30:45.820 Yeah.

04:30:46.080 White is right. 0.87

04:30:46.740 It's fine.

04:30:47.400 Yeah.

04:30:47.760 Do it in the white.

04:30:48.400 She can vote.

04:30:51.500 Right.

04:30:51.920 I mean, there's no-

04:30:53.640 We have more rights now than any woman has ever had in, like, time. 0.96

04:30:59.340 Like, he's-

04:31:00.500 No one's taking away anything from you.

04:31:02.500 You can work.

04:31:03.220 You can have kids.

04:31:03.980 You don't have to have kids.

04:31:05.040 You can do whatever you want as a woman.

04:31:06.320 I don't want to do any of that.

04:31:08.500 But, like, I mean-

04:31:10.380 Just let it go.

04:31:10.900 Let it be.

04:31:11.140 I hear her, and I understand where she's coming from.

04:31:14.200 Oh, my God.

04:31:14.640 If I could not work, that's great.

04:31:16.360 I love that.

04:31:17.320 Wow.

04:31:17.540 I love my job.

04:31:18.400 I love to work, but I also love being a stay-at-home mom.

04:31:21.040 No kids, no work.

04:31:21.300 Very kids.

04:31:22.200 Lounging.

04:31:22.700 It's a little balance.

04:31:23.560 That's it.

04:31:23.920 Amazing.

04:31:24.840 I work full-time, and I am a mom full-time.

04:31:27.000 Are you-

04:31:27.720 That's it.

04:31:28.240 Champagne?

04:31:28.680 Andrew.

04:31:29.040 Yes.

04:31:29.300 Thank you.

04:31:29.600 I'm talking to you.

04:31:30.560 Yes. 1.00

04:31:30.960 Fuck everybody else. 1.00

04:31:31.320 Champagne? 1.00

04:31:32.920 Yeah.

04:31:33.100 Andrew, I wish you were here to take a shot with us.

04:31:34.880 I know.

04:31:34.900 Andrew?

04:31:35.980 Underage.

04:31:36.460 But I'm not.

04:31:37.240 Yeah.

04:31:37.400 Can't drink.

04:31:38.040 I was very scared of you, but, like, over-

04:31:40.320 Trying to release my shot?

04:31:42.220 Okay, so- 1.00

04:31:42.720 What the fuck? 0.99

04:31:43.180 No, no, Andrew, I actually, I wish you were here so I can, like, you know- 1.00

04:31:47.460 Make Ashley take your shot. 1.00

04:31:48.720 Be gluttonous together.

04:31:49.180 Yes.

04:31:49.580 Gluttony.

04:31:50.240 Ashley.

04:31:50.900 Like, have a degenerate, like, a little fest.

04:31:57.120 Oh, yeah, I forgot.

04:31:58.100 You think that socially drinking is degenerate.

04:32:00.320 I did not say that.

04:32:01.620 I just said that I think your perception of it is a little skewed, and you like to-

04:32:08.180 It's kind of like my, so my sister is very religious, so-

04:32:12.780 Oh, well, then that must make you an expert.

04:32:14.500 Oh, yeah.

04:32:14.840 Oh, it doesn't make me an expert.

04:32:16.080 I just will find, like, fallacies in, like, her beliefs.

04:32:18.760 That's like-

04:32:19.220 No, no, I see- 1.00

04:32:20.500 That's like when a chick's a medical expert because she's fucking a doctor. 1.00

04:32:23.380 No, no, no. 1.00

04:32:24.020 Andrew, I've been watching you for a while.

04:32:25.780 Trust me.

04:32:26.240 I'm like an internet-

04:32:27.560 I watch the internet, and I notice that you indulge in alcohol, and then you, like, will

04:32:33.900 say other things.

04:32:34.420 I'm sorry.

04:32:35.000 What are you even prattling about?

04:32:37.280 I'm just saying we're both jajuns.

04:32:39.440 Drinking isn't a sin.

04:32:41.560 It's drunkenness.

04:32:42.160 I never said it was a sin.

04:32:43.140 I just said if you're indulging in overindulgence of drinking, like, more than one drink, then

04:32:47.940 it's gluttonous.

04:32:49.500 Oh, I know what I'm talking about.

04:32:50.860 It's not even gluttonous.

04:32:51.880 It's drunkenness.

04:32:52.760 But if you're having one or two drinks, that's not drunkenness.

04:32:55.960 How would you know?

04:32:56.800 You've never-

04:32:57.440 You're 19.

04:32:58.760 I've drank before.

04:32:59.740 My husband's 23.

04:33:01.440 So you're-

04:33:02.120 I've had a drink before.

04:33:03.080 Your 20-year-old husband who married you when you were 17 has also drank with you.

04:33:07.900 Grooming.

04:33:08.500 Hello?

04:33:09.540 That's not-

04:33:10.000 What?

04:33:10.340 That's not-

04:33:10.700 Babe, you-

04:33:11.240 What are you talking about?

04:33:12.020 How is that grooming?

04:33:12.940 You have been groomed, and I feel like you don't even realize it.

04:33:15.460 I think you're drunk out your mind.

04:33:17.120 Oh, I'm so-

04:33:18.240 I don't think that-

04:33:19.080 I'm highly inebriated, yes.

04:33:20.460 I'm not going to yell.

04:33:21.420 I'm not going to yell or argue with you.

04:33:23.000 Am I yelling?

04:33:23.840 I don't want to.

04:33:24.080 You take-

04:33:24.500 I'm going to argue with you.

04:33:25.440 I'm not going to drink at all.

04:33:26.380 What do you mean she was groomed?

04:33:27.800 Are you happily married, ma'am?

04:33:29.420 I'm happily married.

04:33:30.580 I got married at 18, and she thinks I was groomed.

04:33:32.600 Andrew, I know that you're all for age gaps, but she- 1.00

04:33:36.300 Shush OnlyFans hooker. 1.00

04:33:37.480 Shut up. 1.00

04:33:37.880 I've never been on OnlyFans. 1.00

04:33:38.820 You in the back.

04:33:39.600 I'm talking.

04:33:40.240 I'm talking to the- 0.98

04:33:41.120 Don't call me an OnlyFans hooker. 0.96

04:33:42.500 I'm not an OnlyFans hooker, baby. 0.97

04:33:44.260 I'm talking to the nice lady in the back. 1.00

04:33:46.260 Oh.

04:33:46.560 The nice married lady in the back- 1.00

04:33:48.620 You know she got married when she was 17 to a 20-year-old.

04:33:50.900 Stop talking, lady. 1.00

04:33:52.220 I said, the nice girl in the back from the entire crucible, congratulations.

04:33:56.900 I'm very happy-

04:33:57.700 Congratulations on getting married while you were a teenager to an adult.

04:34:01.540 Congratulations.

04:34:02.400 I can't even hear what he's saying.

04:34:03.740 Oh, because I'm so inebriated and drunk.

04:34:06.120 Yes.

04:34:06.780 I think you are drunk.

04:34:08.240 I got married at 18.

04:34:09.580 I was an adult.

04:34:10.300 I think you've been very privileged, and you don't understand other individuals.

04:34:14.620 Oh, you're drinking that much.

04:34:15.840 Oh, she's privileged.

04:34:17.300 Yeah, no, she's- 0.99

04:34:18.400 So privileged, yeah.

04:34:19.260 No, you really are privileged.

04:34:21.140 Define privilege.

04:34:22.200 What's your privilege?

04:34:22.920 Well, so when we had our discussion earlier, you were talking about abortion.

04:34:28.740 I asked if you're from a two-party household.

04:34:32.400 You were.

04:34:33.160 That's a privilege.

04:34:34.540 Is it not?

04:34:35.720 Sure, that's a privilege, but you're going to throw around the word privilege as in-

04:34:39.560 I think you are.

04:34:40.160 I'm the way I am because I had a two-parent household?

04:34:42.620 You haven't experienced a lot of other life, and like, babe, you got married at 17 to a

04:34:48.360 20-year-old.

04:34:49.160 I didn't get married at 17.

04:34:50.420 I got married at 18, so let's not throw rumors around.

04:34:52.940 Okay, a year later.

04:34:54.240 My bad.

04:34:54.880 So I was an adult.

04:34:55.660 Oh, my God.

04:34:56.740 Oh, my God.

04:34:57.660 Oh, my God.

04:34:58.800 You want some, right?

04:34:59.440 What would me, you know, experiencing life, would that be me being single until I'm 30,

04:35:04.980 hooking up with a bunch of guys, getting on drugs, going to rehab, sleeping around?

04:35:09.820 That would be life experience for you, and that would-

04:35:11.920 I wouldn't call that life experience, but you were, you had a predisposition towards me

04:35:18.000 because of what you have not experienced, basically.

04:35:21.520 How did I have a predisposition towards you?

04:35:22.940 You were basically saying that, like, abortion was wrong because you were from a type of

04:35:27.420 household that you're like, oh, you should keep the baby type of thing because you've 0.64

04:35:31.160 been from, like, two parents that raised you.

04:35:33.520 Well, that's not what I said.

04:35:34.420 I said that when you have sex, there is a chance that you will get pregnant, and nobody 0.97

04:35:38.360 wants to take responsibility for their actions.

04:35:39.160 No, you said that they should keep the baby even if they're from, like, broken households.

04:35:42.800 Yes, because when you have sex-

04:35:44.340 But you were from a two-party household, so how would you know?

04:35:46.400 That has nothing to do with if abortion is wrong or not.

04:35:48.660 Nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions.

04:35:49.600 It's not even about that.

04:35:50.600 My argument was that people who have come from households that are broken, they can't 1.00

04:35:55.580 raise a child, cannot properly raise them.

04:35:58.120 Yes, it is.

04:35:58.660 That is not true.

04:35:59.040 Yes, it is.

04:35:59.420 All right, hold on.

04:36:00.100 Okay.

04:36:00.720 Can I ask you a question briefly?

04:36:02.500 Really quick before you do, though.

04:36:03.780 And then you're calling me drunk, which is so, like, it's such a low blow because, like,

04:36:08.900 you're 19.

04:36:09.440 You can't even drink with us.

04:36:10.460 You can't even drink this Andre.

04:36:11.500 I don't drink anyways.

04:36:12.580 I don't want to.

04:36:12.780 You can't drink.

04:36:13.500 You're 19.

04:36:14.840 You're not 21.

04:36:16.480 Don't judge her personal.

04:36:17.620 I'm not judging you.

04:36:18.520 You're right.

04:36:19.000 You're right.

04:36:19.260 I'm actually so proud to say that.

04:36:20.900 I'm not going to be ad hominant towards you.

04:36:22.820 You're right.

04:36:23.140 You have strong morals.

04:36:23.900 All right, really quick before you guys continue your bickering and arguing, we need to do

04:36:28.740 a cheers to Jungle.

04:36:31.820 Cheers to Jungle.

04:36:34.500 Welcome to the Jungle.

04:36:35.680 Welcome to the Jungle.

04:36:37.360 I can't do a cheers.

04:36:38.000 We got fun again.

04:36:39.800 Cheers, Andrew.

04:36:41.140 Love you.

04:36:41.980 She gets demerit.

04:36:42.840 I want to judge them.

04:36:43.780 But here's the thing.

04:36:44.460 To the girl in the back in the center who was talking, I had a couple of questions.

04:36:48.060 You and your husband, you got married 18.

04:36:51.840 You're 19 years old.

04:36:52.980 Yes.

04:36:53.980 Okay.

04:36:54.480 Did you guys have a nice honeymoon?

04:36:56.740 No.

04:36:57.200 We actually were kind of unconventional.

04:36:59.360 We got eloped three days after getting engaged.

04:37:02.580 We haven't done a honeymoon yet just because we're saving up for that later in the future.

04:37:06.040 Our priority is having kids and buying a house.

04:37:08.560 So that's not really...

04:37:09.480 Are you religious?

04:37:10.740 I am.

04:37:11.440 I'm Christian.

04:37:12.120 Christian? 0.80

04:37:12.940 Yeah.

04:37:13.200 Is that why you got married young?

04:37:15.860 Yeah.

04:37:16.400 I would say that's the main reason for sure.

04:37:18.440 I don't think that there's really any reason to date her.

04:37:21.140 Well, I want to show this chick what privilege actually looks like. 1.00

04:37:24.300 So the cruise pool is going to send you $3,000 so that you and your husband can go on a honeymoon. 1.00

04:37:28.280 You can go fuck yourself. 1.00

04:37:29.720 I hate this fucking scumbag. 1.00

04:37:31.660 Ow! 1.00

04:37:33.060 Thank you. 1.00

04:37:33.520 I hate this scumbag. 1.00

04:37:35.200 Her only crime was that she's happily married and you can't fucking stand it. 1.00

04:37:39.720 Fuck you. 1.00

04:37:40.200 I never said that. 1.00

04:37:42.100 I never said that.

04:37:43.380 You weren't here from the first portion of the argument.

04:37:46.180 Do your air horns, Brian.

04:37:49.020 I know.

04:37:49.500 It's terrible. 0.97

04:37:50.040 She can't kill your babies. 1.00

04:37:51.180 I think... 1.00

04:37:51.980 Wait.

04:37:52.220 I'm sorry.

04:37:52.640 Wasn't your wife formerly married like twice before you and had kids before you? 1.00

04:37:56.720 Yeah.

04:37:56.940 So what?

04:37:57.520 So what?

04:37:57.980 She wasn't killing them, baby.

04:37:59.360 So how are you going to come at me and say I'm jealous of her when your wife has been 1.00

04:38:03.460 with men before you?

04:38:04.780 Your wife has been touched.

04:38:06.740 How many kids would you have? 0.97

04:38:07.660 Your wife is not a virgin and you're so religious and holy and you're coming at me, baby.

04:38:11.900 Your wife has been with multiple men before you.

04:38:13.980 Yeah, so what?

04:38:14.660 And she has kids with other men.

04:38:16.920 How does it make you feel?

04:38:17.280 She's trying to get a reaction.

04:38:18.240 Rachel's going to go off on you in the chat. 1.00

04:38:20.400 She's going to go off.

04:38:21.480 Okay.

04:38:22.120 Let her go off. 1.00

04:38:23.680 I love it.

04:38:24.920 Rachel cameo?

04:38:25.860 You can see why the nice lady goes out on her nice honeymoon. 1.00

04:38:28.140 I never said she was not a nice lady. 1.00

04:38:30.020 I think she's beautiful.

04:38:31.180 Like, she's one of the most beautiful girls.

04:38:32.640 I just think that, you know, she, we have different.

04:38:35.900 And she's going to make lots of beautiful babies and not kill them, unlike you. 1.00

04:38:39.140 I'm going to go grab a baby.

04:38:39.800 Oh, I've never killed a baby.

04:38:40.820 I've never had an abortion. 1.00

04:38:43.660 You're a fucking liar. 1.00

04:38:45.260 You're a fucking liar. 1.00

04:38:48.300 Wow. 1.00

04:38:49.380 That was interesting.

04:38:51.240 Yeah.

04:38:51.920 I've never had an abortion, Andrew.

04:38:55.240 Would you?

04:38:55.660 Probably, Mike.

04:38:56.920 I've never been up for that.

04:38:59.260 That's never happened.

04:39:00.100 So I don't know.

04:39:00.720 It's never happened.

04:39:02.740 I'm just, I'm asking this, like, just respectfully, because I'm curious.

04:39:06.040 Yeah.

04:39:06.280 If you got pregnant right now, accidentally, would you get an abortion? 1.00

04:39:10.100 I don't know.

04:39:10.820 It's never happened.

04:39:11.540 If it, I, it's up for who it is.

04:39:13.460 Wait, isn't.

04:39:14.420 It depends on who the father is?

04:39:15.700 It depends.

04:39:16.500 I only sleep with wealthy men, so I'd probably keep it.

04:39:25.380 I just don't even know.

04:39:27.480 What?

04:39:27.760 I don't sleep with broke men.

04:39:29.820 I know.

04:39:30.440 But this nice lady, though. 1.00

04:39:32.400 I never said she wasn't nice.

04:39:33.820 I think she's beautiful.

04:39:34.940 We just have.

04:39:35.760 At 17, she married a 20-year-old.

04:39:38.220 Yeah.

04:39:38.800 I'm sorry.

04:39:39.060 At 18, she married a 20-year-old. 0.99

04:39:41.420 And you're so fucking butthurt about that. 0.99

04:39:43.700 Oh, I never said I was butthurt. 0.99

04:39:45.400 We were just. 0.99

04:39:45.740 Her husband, her poor husband, who's not even here to defend himself, fucking groomed her. 0.99

04:39:49.340 I just, yeah. 0.99

04:39:50.140 I do think it's grooming when you. 1.00

04:39:51.900 You're a fucking psychopath. 1.00

04:39:52.600 Oh, yeah. 1.00

04:39:53.100 It's a psychopath. 1.00

04:39:53.700 It's psychopathic to think that a teenager should. 0.97

04:39:57.080 Do you see how she defends her husband?

04:39:58.960 Oh. 1.00

04:39:59.140 That's why she, that's why she fucking has one. 1.00

04:40:00.660 Yeah, sure. 0.99

04:40:01.300 Sure.

04:40:01.640 It's great.

04:40:02.160 That's why she has one, because she's here defending him.

04:40:04.920 I've been proposed to.

04:40:06.800 You act like I'm, like, some, like, amphibian.

04:40:14.020 Are we going to get a Rachel cameo, by the way?

04:40:17.040 I don't.

04:40:18.040 I'm actually scared of your wife. 1.00

04:40:19.560 I know she's going to demolish me. 0.95

04:40:21.040 Like, I already know.

04:40:22.980 Here, let's get back to the, let's try to get through it.

04:40:25.220 So, we have got some more notes here.

04:40:27.800 Going back to you, Jazz.

04:40:28.700 I think you're beautiful, by the way.

04:40:29.460 We just have disagreements.

04:40:30.600 No, you are, too.

04:40:31.200 So, Jazz, you said.

04:40:32.600 Feel free to jump in.

04:40:34.440 No, no, no.

04:40:34.940 We need to get through all the notes here, Jazz.

04:40:36.800 So, okay, Jazz, you said about me and Andrew.

04:40:39.660 Maybe it was just about me.

04:40:40.640 I don't know.

04:40:41.100 Yeah.

04:40:41.580 You said the following. 0.94

04:40:43.100 You spew misogynistic, pseudo-intellectual, red-pilled bro ideas and care about stressing

04:40:49.240 traditional gender roles when gender is extremely complex, and anyone in academia understands

04:40:55.100 the evolution of human society and gender.

04:40:57.640 We are much more advanced than animals.

04:41:00.200 Not sure you've caught on to that.

04:41:01.660 Now, before I have Andrew jump in, a few clarifying questions.

04:41:05.620 Misogynistic, pseudo-intellectual, red-pilled bro ideas. 0.63

04:41:09.480 I'd like to first maybe define our terms.

04:41:11.860 What is misogyny?

04:41:15.320 Hating women. 0.99

04:41:16.320 I do think y'all are misogynists. 0.99

04:41:18.040 Okay.

04:41:18.660 So, how?

04:41:20.960 I think it's, if you think that women have a certain role in society, and if they don't 0.98

04:41:31.560 fit that role, then they're deemed inadequate as a woman, then I think that's misogynistic. 1.00

04:41:38.880 Before I respond to that, actually, I'll respond to that, then I'll get other examples of the

04:41:44.680 alleged misogyny.

04:41:46.800 Didn't earlier you raise your hand seven times when I asked you, should men do X? 0.52

04:41:52.780 And they were all related to male traditional gender roles.

04:41:55.580 So, by your own logic, then you would be a misandrist.

04:41:58.800 Okay.

04:42:00.700 But I'm not saying I hate men.

04:42:02.260 Okay.

04:42:02.500 If I say I want them to walk on, I respect when they walk on that side of the sidewalk to

04:42:08.180 protect me, then that's...

04:42:09.260 From what?

04:42:09.700 What are they protecting you from?

04:42:10.820 The cars passing?

04:42:11.820 So, you would essentially...

04:42:13.320 I actually think...

04:42:13.720 But I'm not saying I hate men.

04:42:15.220 Well, actually, but I think it's...

04:42:16.720 You might not hate men, but you have a misandrist view towards men. 1.00

04:42:21.160 Stop fucking talking, lady. 1.00

04:42:22.940 So, you have a misandrist view towards men, and I'll explain it as follows. 1.00

04:42:27.520 You think men are disposable because you think, hmm, a man can protect me from an oncoming

04:42:32.780 car. 0.97

04:42:33.500 He's disposable because he should die on my behalf.

04:42:35.860 No, personally, I just think it's like a respect thing and that they value me and care if they're

04:42:43.860 willing to put themselves in a position like that.

04:42:45.900 It's not necessarily...

04:42:46.780 I think they're disposable.

04:42:48.080 My world would be shattered if my person, if that accident happened with them, they're

04:42:53.640 not disposable.

04:42:55.060 Right.

04:42:55.340 But you're saying men should sacrifice themselves for women or for you.

04:42:58.900 No, I'm just saying I think it's a good characteristic for someone to be like, I'll step on this side

04:43:03.280 in case of some sort of event that's a car.

04:43:05.260 So, what's stopping me from saying I think it's a good characteristic for women to adhere 1.00

04:43:09.560 to their traditional gender roles? 0.93

04:43:11.380 You seem to say that that points to misogyny, so then surely it must point to you being a

04:43:16.340 misandrist.

04:43:17.660 Okay, if you want to draw that conclusion.

04:43:19.280 Okay, so we're just going to call each other misandrist and misogynist, or are we going to

04:43:22.540 actually back up these assertions with actual evidence for the claims?

04:43:27.000 The way that you talk to women on this podcast, I think it's disrespectful. 1.00

04:43:29.440 What's an example of how?

04:43:31.400 Calling someone like a prostitute in a derogatory way. 0.58

04:43:33.540 I didn't say that. 0.92

04:43:34.280 That was Andrew. 0.99

04:43:35.260 But if she is actually a prostitute... 1.00

04:43:37.500 You've got to admit it's pretty misogynist to pay for a young couple's honeymoon. 0.97

04:43:42.100 What's a huckleberry?

04:43:42.840 That's very kind.

04:43:43.740 I'm not taking away from that.

04:43:44.800 Your wife called me a huckleberry.

04:43:45.980 What is it?

04:43:46.340 That's very misogynistic, right?

04:43:48.640 It doesn't mean that everything you do has to be in the vein of hating women.

04:43:52.480 I'm just saying...

04:43:53.120 But if I hated women, why would I assist women? 1.00

04:43:56.420 I mean, you're giving them their honeymoon.

04:43:58.460 But still, I've...

04:43:59.580 Oh, wait, wait.

04:44:00.340 Again, she's a woman that agrees with your idea. 0.95

04:44:03.920 So if it also benefits a man, then that means...

04:44:06.240 No, but she's also a woman that agrees with your ideology. 1.00

04:44:09.160 Period.

04:44:10.620 No.

04:44:11.120 You know what?

04:44:11.720 I don't know if she agrees with my ideology.

04:44:13.860 Oh, she has.

04:44:14.660 So you've spoken with a girl with Anna?

04:44:15.460 No.

04:44:16.340 Actually, no.

04:44:17.340 If you're a stripper... 1.00

04:44:18.820 Excuse me. 1.00

04:44:20.040 If you're a stripper, that doesn't mean you're a fucking sex worker. 1.00

04:44:23.240 ...this woman for the crime of being happily fucking married because you're nutcases. 1.00

04:44:27.780 I completely support her. 1.00

04:44:28.760 I did not viciously attack her.

04:44:30.180 We were having a discussion. 1.00

04:44:31.320 Bullshit. 1.00

04:44:31.820 You're lying through your teeth. 1.00

04:44:33.080 Revision it.

04:44:33.660 Tell me...

04:44:34.180 Give me verbatim how I viciously attacked her.

04:44:37.260 Yeah.

04:44:37.640 Here's how you viciously attacked her.

04:44:38.960 Okay.

04:44:39.120 You said that her husband groomed her.

04:44:40.980 Yes.

04:44:41.240 And that her marriage was invalid because of her.

04:44:43.280 I never said it was invalid.

04:44:44.100 I said she was groomed.

04:44:45.320 I never said invalid.

04:44:46.060 What do you think that means?

04:44:47.060 That means to the audience, you shouldn't take anything that is said here with this marriage

04:44:51.180 seriously because this guy groomed her. 1.00

04:44:53.240 It was the worst, most scumbag, horrid thing to do to a young couple because you fucking 1.00

04:44:58.320 people are so antinatalist, you can't stand to see a woman happy. 1.00

04:45:02.500 Unbelievable.

04:45:03.080 That's your perception, but I never... 1.00

04:45:04.680 She's going to go on a honeymoon and have 50 fucking... 1.00

04:45:06.260 I hope she does. 1.00

04:45:07.240 I hope she has a great honeymoon with the man that she... 0.86

04:45:09.760 You've got to go have 50 kids while you're riding the cock carousel. 1.00

04:45:12.800 I love the cock carousel. 1.00

04:45:14.000 It's a great fucking time. 1.00

04:45:15.820 I love dick in my mouth. 1.00

04:45:17.120 It's fucking fantastic. 1.00

04:45:19.120 What? 1.00

04:45:19.780 What the fuck? 1.00

04:45:20.340 All right, hold on. 1.00

04:45:20.900 Let me bring it back here.

04:45:21.820 Get off the meta conversation.

04:45:23.480 Mike Davis, I see this.

04:45:25.460 It's...

04:45:25.900 We do reads and batches.

04:45:27.740 I see you're 100.

04:45:28.540 It's going to be batched.

04:45:30.120 So getting back to this...

04:45:31.760 Oh, God.

04:45:33.600 Can you provide actual examples of misogynistic statements that I've made?

04:45:39.060 I think the way...

04:45:40.160 Not even tonight.

04:45:40.940 Any show.

04:45:42.640 Yes.

04:45:43.240 Clips I've seen how... 1.00

04:45:44.940 And what I've witnessed today where you say you prostitute, you sex worker. 1.00

04:45:49.920 How many dicks have you had in your mouth? 1.00

04:45:51.420 Just me. 1.00

04:45:51.960 Just me.

04:45:52.340 That's Andrew.

04:45:52.620 I'm more of a moderator and a host.

04:45:54.260 I feel like I don't really see you.

04:45:55.560 I engage in the debates, but you...

04:45:58.980 Again, though, just to be clear, you sent this before Andrew said that tonight.

04:46:05.020 So let's push that off to the side.

04:46:08.520 What have I or Andrew said previously when you originally sent this that was misogynistic?

04:46:13.620 Misogynistic.

04:46:15.220 Every clip I've seen and other people's perception.

04:46:19.080 Okay.

04:46:19.300 So there are clips you've seen.

04:46:20.680 What specifically in the clips was or were misogynistic?

04:46:26.260 How you speak to women and talk down upon them. 1.00

04:46:29.140 Yeah.

04:46:29.460 Because of their life choices, like with so much judgment.

04:46:32.540 Give me an example.

04:46:34.020 About people doing OnlyFans.

04:46:36.340 How is that not an example?

04:46:37.120 Give me an example of what I've said.

04:46:39.500 Oh, like specifically verbatim?

04:46:40.980 Well, it doesn't have to be verbatim, but it could be sort of capturing the essence of

04:46:46.200 what I said.

04:46:48.960 Saying that they don't have like decent morals or values because they participate in that

04:46:55.040 sort of occupation is the consensus that I have come to.

04:46:58.620 Sure.

04:46:58.920 I don't think I've ever actually said that or something approaching that.

04:47:03.020 Okay.

04:47:03.580 But...

04:47:04.300 Again, I don't have anything verbatim.

04:47:06.020 It's just kind of the essence of...

04:47:07.660 Yeah, but how would this, being engaged in sex work, men can engage in sex work, how

04:47:11.560 would this be specifically misogynistic?

04:47:12.800 Yes, but you demonize women way more for doing it. 1.00

04:47:14.800 You have a podcast where you have eight women come on who usually have an occupation in sex 0.93

04:47:18.840 work.

04:47:19.120 Usually?

04:47:19.640 Oh, usually have an occupation in sex work. 0.96

04:47:21.580 Well, I would contest this.

04:47:23.080 The majority of our guests don't do sex work.

04:47:24.920 15% of our guests have OnlyFans.

04:47:27.720 And this actually isn't that...

04:47:29.660 15% of all the guests we've had, and we've had over 2,000 guests, only 15% of them have

04:47:35.000 been involved in OnlyFans.

04:47:36.760 So, that typically...

04:47:38.040 Yeah, maybe we can demonstrate it just in an easy way.

04:47:40.760 Raise your hand at the table if you're involved in sex work.

04:47:44.080 Not anymore.

04:47:46.020 Okay, then.

04:47:46.760 Well, there's...

04:47:47.940 Chair one, do you judge women that have participated?

04:47:51.520 He calls girls that...

04:47:53.180 First of all, I'm 52. 1.00

04:47:54.660 I don't give a fuck anymore. 0.99

04:47:55.400 I've judged women that participate in sex work. 1.00

04:47:56.920 She doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

04:47:58.180 Not only give a fuck, she does not give a fuck. 1.00

04:47:59.920 She does not give a fuck. 1.00

04:48:00.900 She does not give a fuck. 1.00

04:48:01.020 She does not give a fuck. 1.00

04:48:01.040 She does not give a fuck. 1.00

04:48:01.920 50 plus? 1.00

04:48:02.900 Yes.

04:48:03.420 I don't mean to have judged...

04:48:05.300 I love that card.

04:48:06.880 Yeah, no, I don't judge women who participate in sex work at all. 0.99

04:48:09.780 I love that card.

04:48:10.260 Okay, but how would...

04:48:12.320 Even if I grant to you that I've made judgments about women who do sex work, how would that

04:48:16.940 be misogynistic?

04:48:18.720 Couldn't I just have criticisms of sex work specifically?

04:48:21.520 Yeah, and you can have criticisms.

04:48:23.340 There are valid criticisms.

04:48:24.180 Like, aren't you against, like, sex work and OnlyFans?

04:48:27.040 I think that it's a false sense of free will that women participate in. 1.00

04:48:31.680 I feel like the structure of...

04:48:33.360 Earlier in the conversation, and I also think in the essay you wrote, you said that women

04:48:37.980 are, like, you mentioned hyper-sexualization.

04:48:41.720 You think the sexualization of women is wrong.

04:48:44.300 So by your own admission, you must, I assume, you're against sex work to some degree.

04:48:49.480 I think it's very dangerous for society, and I think it's kind of a facade of women empowerment. 1.00

04:48:55.480 I think, if anything, it's reaffirming our role in society as just sexual beings.

04:49:02.840 Oh, okay.

04:49:03.080 So we're both misogynists together then?

04:49:05.420 No, I don't disrespect women who are in that occupation. 1.00

04:49:08.400 I don't speak down to them on being in those roles.

04:49:11.280 I don't like the structure that exists that says women should go into those occupations

04:49:16.900 without...

04:49:18.980 But at the same time, I'm not demonizing anyone who's participating in it.

04:49:21.840 That's fine.

04:49:21.860 You're going to need to be specific about what I've said that has been specifically misogynistic

04:49:27.080 as it relates to women who come on the show who do sex work. 0.68

04:49:29.820 Yeah, I don't have anything verbatim or a quote.

04:49:33.560 It's just...

04:49:34.320 Sure, then...

04:49:34.900 I think the public perception is that you are disrespectful to women and that you do engage

04:49:39.780 in... 0.97

04:49:40.060 Okay, well, the public perception of you is that you're a man-hating misandrist...

04:49:43.300 She's not. 0.99

04:49:43.740 ...and you think men are disposable, and you're kind of a hypocrite as it relates to traditional 0.99

04:49:47.600 gender roles. 1.00

04:49:47.980 And I denounce that, and then you denounce that you're misogynist, so I guess that's fine.

04:49:51.200 But...

04:49:51.680 Or that you...

04:49:52.180 Hang on, hang on.

04:49:53.000 I've got to weigh in, just briefly.

04:49:55.040 Go ahead.

04:49:55.280 Right?

04:49:56.160 I agree with you that some of the things which I say or Brian says can be perceived as being

04:50:01.560 misogynist towards certain women, but misogyny, definitionally, is a hatred of all women

04:50:08.060 or some type of oppressive mentality towards all women.

04:50:11.780 You would have to agree that that's true. 1.00

04:50:13.940 So, the thing is, is like, you can't possibly believe that because some women are fucking 1.00

04:50:19.040 nasty bastards to us, and so we're nasty bastards back to them, that that means we're 1.00

04:50:25.140 misogynistic, meaning that we have some sort of ill intention towards all women. 1.00

04:50:29.640 You can't actually believe that, do you?

04:50:33.760 No, I think there's...

04:50:35.040 I think there's nuance there.

04:50:37.580 That was misogyny, by the way.

04:50:40.060 Well, I mean, that...

04:50:41.260 Sorry I had demands playing that, but...

04:50:43.180 I mean, I would just say, if you're not able to provide, like...

04:50:46.320 Again, you don't need to be like... 0.98

04:50:47.140 I didn't do homework for this.

04:50:48.200 I thought it was a dating show.

04:50:49.360 I'm sorry.

04:50:50.400 Well, I mean...

04:50:51.000 Literally...

04:50:51.900 Hold on.

04:50:52.180 You aired your criticisms, but...

04:50:54.020 These are pertinent dating issues.

04:50:55.320 Yeah, very pertinent.

04:50:57.000 Where is, like, the...

04:50:57.420 But, hold on, hold on.

04:50:58.300 So, look, I'm not asking you to quote something verbatim, like if you...

04:51:04.740 Well, I've given you the best answer I can give you.

04:51:06.280 If you give me the essence of what I've said, but you really haven't, and so essentially

04:51:10.160 that which is asserted without evidence, I'm going to go ahead and dismiss without evidence.

04:51:14.300 Okay.

04:51:14.940 Can you give me one example, though?

04:51:16.500 Just one example of something I've said that's misogynistic.

04:51:20.880 I think the ideology that you guys hold that our gender structure should consist of women's

04:51:29.200 main value being reproduction and men doing these things are very limiting, and I think 0.93

04:51:33.620 that is dangerous to both genders, and I think a lot of the times it comes off as misogynist.

04:51:39.100 I have a question for you.

04:51:39.900 Do you think in society men or women are more limited in the roles that they can have when

04:51:45.840 it comes to, like, romantic partners?

04:51:48.960 What do you mean when it comes to romantic partners?

04:51:50.220 Well, I'll just lay out my argument then.

04:51:51.880 And so here's my position.

04:51:53.420 I think women have choices. 1.00

04:51:55.500 So a woman can be a career woman. 1.00

04:51:58.060 Some women pull off both, although it's quite difficult, and I think Andrew would argue that

04:52:01.860 it's suboptimal for a woman to be working and having children at the same time. 1.00

04:52:06.580 I would agree.

04:52:06.960 But also women can just be stay-at-home wives. 1.00

04:52:10.960 They can find a guy who's okay with that dynamic.

04:52:13.600 However, I would say most men don't have similar options.

04:52:17.060 So I would say very, very few women would be okay being the sole breadwinner and being 1.00

04:52:23.220 okay with that relationship dynamic, even if they're feminists like you, even if they're 1.00

04:52:27.640 progressive liberals like you.

04:52:28.860 By your own admission, despite your political leanings being very progressive, being very liberal,

04:52:35.500 very leftist or feminist, it sounds like you want, at least on the male side of things, 0.84

04:52:42.920 you want him to be falling pretty traditional when it comes to what he's bringing to the table.

04:52:48.340 But I want him to also not make me a homemaker, not to think that I'm, you know what I mean?

04:52:54.860 I want a partner, and these are the characters, so I want a partner.

04:52:57.300 But I would say that if you want, you can find a guy who's going to do 50-50 with you.

04:53:01.940 You could also probably find a guy who's well off or he makes good money, and if you had

04:53:07.860 a conversation with him, you could say, hey, I want to just stay at home, take care of the

04:53:13.560 household.

04:53:14.120 I don't know if you want kids.

04:53:14.720 You're saying men don't have an option.

04:53:16.180 Men really, really don't.

04:53:18.220 I completely agree.

04:53:19.140 Really don't have, like, the majority of men who could get away with saying, yeah, you

04:53:27.360 know, I have a job right now, but maybe a year into dating or a year into marriage, I

04:53:32.760 just want to stop working, and I just want to be a stay-at-home dad.

04:53:37.080 I suppose some women might be okay with that. 1.00

04:53:39.540 I'm not going to say no women would be okay with it, but I think it's a very, very, very 0.99

04:53:43.300 small minority of women, even liberal progressive feminist women who are not going to be okay

04:53:47.980 with that sort of arrangement, whereas there are certain economic realities where, look,

04:53:53.140 even if a man is traditional, maybe he's not making enough money.

04:53:57.600 So the economic reality is even if he is traditional, his wife might have to work, but he's going 0.65

04:54:04.200 to be open to it if he does make enough money that he's going to be able to say, hey, you

04:54:08.900 don't have to work.

04:54:09.540 I'll be the sole breadwinner.

04:54:10.920 You take care of the kids.

04:54:11.820 Stay home.

04:54:12.660 Men don't have that choice. 0.99

04:54:13.840 So this idea that women don't have choice is ridiculous. 0.99

04:54:16.480 Why does it have to be the liberal women? 1.00

04:54:20.460 I mean, I know all of a sudden the conservative women have to stay at home, and that's what 1.00

04:54:26.180 they portray.

04:54:26.840 No, man.

04:54:28.460 No.

04:54:29.660 I suppose there could be a conservative woman that, well, most conservative women wouldn't 1.00

04:54:33.640 want that sort of relationship dynamic.

04:54:35.320 Well, that's what you think on social media.

04:54:38.380 You're not conservative.

04:54:39.800 I don't think you're conservative, though.

04:54:41.220 You know, I think you're a Republican, but I don't think you're conservative.

04:54:44.820 No, I am. 0.99

04:54:45.260 I don't give a shit at this age. 0.99

04:54:47.540 All right. 0.99

04:54:47.740 Okay. 0.99

04:54:48.080 I was born in 1972, and I don't give a shit. 0.99

04:54:51.480 I was born in the 80s. 0.99

04:54:54.820 Really?

04:54:55.080 And this is how, you know, and I just had my kid at 37, man.

04:54:58.540 Just to cut off.

04:54:59.300 Okay.

04:54:59.880 And she's got a little septum. 1.00

04:55:01.600 She's got a little snake bites. 1.00

04:55:04.200 She's everything that I didn't have when I was a kid.

04:55:08.200 And I used to have my little hair like Madonna.

04:55:11.060 And in fact, my mother used to get called to the school like three times a week because

04:55:16.400 I used to have my hair like pineapple.

04:55:19.920 I'm sorry.

04:55:20.260 Yes.

04:55:20.560 That just came through.

04:55:21.560 I don't know how that happened.

04:55:22.420 The right side of the table is disgusting.

04:55:24.640 Hey. 0.95

04:55:24.920 The woman in the middle, congratulations.

04:55:28.300 Chariot, you're still my favorite.

04:55:30.440 No, that's you.

04:55:30.960 Say something nice to Magic.

04:55:32.520 Hi.

04:55:33.100 Thank you so much.

04:55:34.800 I still love you.

04:55:35.580 You're kind of simping, though, Magic.

04:55:36.280 You got to pay the sim tax.

04:55:37.560 What?

04:55:37.980 You got to pay the...

04:55:38.480 By the way, she's got a boyfriend, bro.

04:55:39.960 What are you doing?

04:55:40.680 You're stepping on toes. 1.00

04:55:41.360 What the fuck you're talking about? 1.00

04:55:42.160 You're stepping on toes. 1.00

04:55:42.960 You're not disgusting.

04:55:43.860 You are faceless. 0.97

04:55:45.140 Oh, no.

04:55:45.400 He's sexy.

04:55:46.060 We love you. 1.00

04:55:47.260 Asshole. 1.00

04:55:48.060 Love you, baby. 1.00

04:55:48.920 No, you're...

04:55:49.560 DM me.

04:55:50.200 One more coming through.

04:55:51.040 One more coming through.

04:55:51.780 Pasty George.

04:55:52.240 DM me, babe.

04:55:52.840 Pay the sim tax in Magic.

04:55:55.140 All my girls are beautiful, man.

04:55:56.240 Pasty George donated $200.

04:55:58.460 Pay the sim tax.

04:55:59.140 Andrew is correct 100%.

04:56:01.100 Once, Chair 2 suggested that Chair 5 was groomed.

04:56:05.580 That statement implies that she was not an adult and was taken advantage of, even though

04:56:10.480 she was legally one of marriage.

04:56:13.360 I stand by that statement, for sure.

04:56:16.700 Yeah, you stand by the horrific statement. 1.00

04:56:19.220 I stand with my pussy wide open, Andrew. 1.00

04:56:21.680 The woman who's sitting there was groomed by her own husband, who she... 1.00

04:56:26.560 Yeah.

04:56:27.020 Groomed by the man before he was her husband.

04:56:29.680 He groomed her when she was 17 at 20. 1.00

04:56:32.900 I think you're grooming all the rich guys you fuck for their money. 1.00

04:56:34.980 That's what I said. 1.00

04:56:35.180 What did you...

04:56:35.640 I'm sorry.

04:56:36.080 It cut out.

04:56:36.520 What did you say? 1.00

04:56:37.580 I think that you're grooming all the rich guys you fuck for their money. 1.00

04:56:40.400 Oh, wait. 1.00

04:56:41.400 Why?

04:56:42.300 Elaborate.

04:56:42.760 I'd love to hear what your opinion is on that. 0.76

04:56:44.540 Isn't it the case that you only are having sex and dating rich guys because you want

04:56:47.660 their money? 0.63

04:56:48.300 No, I see.

04:56:49.020 I don't have sex for money.

04:56:50.540 And why do you only date rich guys?

04:56:53.460 Um, they only date me.

04:56:55.860 I broke...

04:56:56.360 Wait, you said I only date rich guys.

04:56:58.360 Yeah, exactly.

04:56:59.820 Men who...

04:57:00.420 Unless it's because you want their money.

04:57:01.820 No, men who ask me on a date happen to be rich.

04:57:04.540 Broke guys don't ask me on dates. 1.00

04:57:05.980 Oh, how convenient.

04:57:07.640 I know.

04:57:08.140 It's amazing.

04:57:09.440 I literally...

04:57:10.000 Only men who have lots of money.

04:57:11.880 Andrew.

04:57:12.500 And no men who don't have lots of money.

04:57:14.400 Andrew, honestly...

04:57:15.460 Wow, that's incredible. 0.97

04:57:16.440 I was very unlucky in other aspects, but I happened to hit the prime fucking lottery in 0.98

04:57:21.700 that part of my life. 0.98

04:57:22.920 Wow.

04:57:23.280 Like, I had a very tumultuous childhood, but therefore...

04:57:26.600 Not a single guy who's not rich who you're attracted to has ever asked you out.

04:57:31.020 I just want to make sure that that's clear.

04:57:32.340 Broke guys have never asked me out. 1.00

04:57:33.460 It's actually insane.

04:57:34.680 It's never happened.

04:57:35.520 It's never happened.

04:57:36.920 It's like, I hate the look of it.

04:57:38.680 No, I hate the look of this girl. 1.00

04:57:40.080 Who would like some pizza?

04:57:40.940 Can I order some for everybody?

04:57:42.500 Pizza.

04:57:43.140 Can I buy it?

04:57:44.820 Oh, sorry.

04:57:45.840 Everybody want pizza?

04:57:47.080 I'm okay.

04:57:47.780 No?

04:57:48.320 Andrew, by the way, I love you.

04:57:49.840 Pizza.

04:57:50.120 Okay.

04:57:50.620 Good girls are like... 1.00

04:57:51.620 And your wife.

04:57:52.580 I think you guys are honestly a dynamic duo.

04:57:54.260 I feel like you owe that poor lady a...

04:57:57.180 She's not gonna... 1.00

04:57:58.200 Yeah.

04:57:59.380 Hold on.

04:57:59.960 I do have one.

04:58:00.740 If I was groomed, do you think I'd be sitting here right now on the internet, live, in

04:58:06.420 California, when I live...

04:58:07.940 My husband lives in Florida.

04:58:09.080 Do you think somebody who groomed me would let me fly out here and do a podcast?

04:58:14.480 100%.

04:58:14.960 So...

04:58:15.680 No, that's not...

04:58:15.980 Do you know about Bad Baby?

04:58:17.020 That's not how control works.

04:58:18.680 Do you know...

04:58:19.100 Do you know...

04:58:19.380 Have you seen Bad Baby's whole situation?

04:58:21.380 I don't really keep up with degenerate stuff like that.

04:58:23.140 So, she was groomed and she's still...

04:58:26.480 Oh, Brian.

04:58:27.380 Don't you...

04:58:27.880 Oh, my God.

04:58:28.420 I don't know if we can compare my situation to Bad Baby.

04:58:30.800 I'm not comparing, but you're asking for like...

04:58:33.200 You are comparing.

04:58:34.380 Okay, yeah.

04:58:34.980 I guess we'll like make a...

04:58:36.140 It's not like a distinct comparison, but it's like you guys are similar in age somewhat,

04:58:41.180 you know?

04:58:42.220 And... 1.00

04:58:42.540 Shut your fucking mouth. 1.00

04:58:44.740 But we're... 1.00

04:58:45.240 Brian, do you not like this discussion?

04:58:46.800 I'll stop it.

04:58:47.260 That's really weird.

04:58:48.640 What?

04:58:49.060 How is it that they're similar in age, but she was still groomed?

04:58:51.580 That's super weird.

04:58:52.580 I have cash, yeah.

04:58:53.400 Okay, give me cash.

04:58:54.540 Wait, why do you want cash?

04:58:56.300 It's cash.

04:58:56.980 Why can't I just Uber eats it?

04:58:59.780 Hold on.

04:59:01.440 No.

04:59:01.800 No, I need the cash because we'll order it.

04:59:03.420 You need the cash.

04:59:04.220 I need the cash.

04:59:04.740 How much do you want?

04:59:05.780 Well...

04:59:06.220 100 bucks.

04:59:07.000 100 bucks.

04:59:07.520 I mean, I gave you 100 bucks already.

04:59:09.840 It's the cost of living in Santa Barbara.

04:59:11.520 Actually, you know what's funny?

04:59:12.420 There was recently a report that Santa Barbara is the least affordable.

04:59:16.300 Are you serious?

04:59:17.020 I believe it.

04:59:17.460 Yeah, it was the number in the United States.

04:59:19.140 I believe it, yeah.

04:59:19.740 Yeah, I believe it.

04:59:19.940 In the entire United States, Santa Barbara here is the...

04:59:24.720 That's why Brian's asked me to move out several times, and I've thought about it.

04:59:29.700 Wait, what state do you live in?

04:59:31.200 I'm not going to have 15-year-olds run around now.

04:59:33.900 If I moved out to Santa Barbara, I could buy for $2 million a two-bedroom house.

04:59:39.040 But there are...

04:59:39.940 Yeah.

04:59:40.380 What state do you live in?

04:59:41.400 You're going to have to rent.

04:59:42.720 That's why.

04:59:43.300 It's just...

04:59:43.740 You can't buy in Santa Barbara.

04:59:45.000 It's totally fine.

04:59:45.560 Yeah, don't move out here.

04:59:45.860 Wait, Andrew, what state do you live in?

04:59:47.160 You don't have to answer.

04:59:47.880 I'm just curious.

04:59:49.220 I live in Michigan.

04:59:49.780 Oh, you're from Michigan.

04:59:50.480 That's so random.

04:59:51.580 Okay.

04:59:52.040 Shout out...

04:59:53.400 Oh.

04:59:53.900 You're next to...

04:59:54.640 Oh, Canada.

04:59:55.420 Middle in... 0.55

04:59:55.980 Kid Rock's from Michigan. 1.00

04:59:57.240 What the fuck? 1.00

04:59:57.640 Is he really? 1.00

04:59:58.560 Oh, my God.

04:59:58.840 I love Rock of Love.

04:59:59.800 Those are my favorite shows as a kid.

05:00:01.320 All the best musicians came out of...

05:00:02.880 What's your question really quick?

05:00:04.400 Which bird?

05:00:05.260 You and the winner just play guitar.

05:00:06.580 How's your governor on which bird?

05:00:07.880 Ah, okay, okay.

05:00:09.280 Okay, so going back to this, again, I'd like to ask for an example of something that...

05:00:15.860 Yeah, I don't have one.

05:00:17.080 You're not a misogynist.

05:00:18.160 You've wiped yourself clean of that.

05:00:19.000 You're walking back the...

05:00:21.100 Yes.

05:00:22.180 Okay.

05:00:23.200 All right.

05:00:24.340 I'll accept that.

05:00:25.520 I'll accept that.

05:00:26.220 Do you concede the argument then?

05:00:28.460 Yes, all of it's conceded.

05:00:29.820 I take back everything.

05:00:30.740 I'll unsend it.

05:00:31.680 I don't know.

05:00:31.960 I'll even say this.

05:00:32.700 Just everything we've talked about, and in fact, everything we're about to talk about,

05:00:37.020 I identify as the correct person on all issues, past, present, and future, related to this

05:00:43.280 podcast recording and this conversation.

05:00:45.420 I want you to affirm my identity as the correct person about all that.

05:00:50.960 I don't want to be rude, Brian, so I'm going to start by affirming your identity immediately.

05:00:54.860 Thank you.

05:00:55.200 That you're very rude.

05:00:55.740 That you're just correct?

05:00:56.920 Yes.

05:00:57.080 You're identifying as correct?

05:00:58.240 Also, what are your pronouns, please?

05:00:59.680 Um, you can call me whatever.

05:01:03.700 I also identify as correct.

05:01:05.420 No, we can't call you whatever, because that would be hard.

05:01:07.700 Oh, wait, yeah. 1.00

05:01:08.560 I'm just co-opting your whole shit. 1.00

05:01:11.060 I'm whatever now. 0.99

05:01:12.120 No, but what are your pronouns, actually?

05:01:13.640 Just she, her?

05:01:15.460 Yeah, sure.

05:01:16.220 Okay.

05:01:16.700 My pronouns are, are you, um, are you okay?

05:01:25.760 If I'm doing pronouns, er.

05:01:28.240 Yeah.

05:01:28.500 Yeah, so my pronouns are, uh, his royal majesty or your royal majesty.

05:01:33.820 Okay, and I will respect that.

05:01:35.080 But every time you address me, I need you to say, uh, your royal majesty.

05:01:39.960 And you need to do a British voice, too, so go ahead.

05:01:43.440 I have to address you all of a sudden?

05:01:45.560 We'll just have it happen naturally.

05:01:48.240 And you, you shouldn't, you need to avert your eyes, because it's rude to.

05:01:52.260 Avert?

05:01:52.900 Like, not look at you?

05:01:53.840 Avert your eye contact.

05:01:55.200 You shouldn't look down when you're talking to me.

05:01:57.780 Oh, I can't look at you anymore?

05:01:59.440 Yeah.

05:01:59.640 Is this some sort of fetish?

05:02:00.860 Has he done this before, chat?

05:02:02.300 Let me know.

05:02:03.140 No, it's just like as a royal, like I, I identify.

05:02:05.680 As a royal, correct person, yeah.

05:02:08.420 That's my identity.

05:02:09.520 Yeah.

05:02:09.980 So I need you.

05:02:10.740 Some people would say I'm the same.

05:02:13.600 Okay.

05:02:14.380 So I need, but you haven't been addressing me, so repeat after me.

05:02:18.720 Your royal majesty.

05:02:20.440 Your royal correct majesty.

05:02:22.740 Wait, what?

05:02:23.080 Non-misogynistic.

05:02:23.960 No, don't do that. 1.00

05:02:24.700 What the fuck? 1.00

05:02:25.440 No. 1.00

05:02:26.180 He's not royal.

05:02:26.920 Are we gonna, like, have a...

05:02:28.420 Yes, we get more people.

05:02:29.500 Yeah, I know.

05:02:29.920 That's what I'm saying.

05:02:30.680 I'm just trying to move on.

05:02:32.760 Oh, by the way, we have, would you be willing for another champagne pop to wear a MAGA hat

05:02:39.040 for 10 minutes?

05:02:40.800 No.

05:02:41.400 That's wild.

05:02:41.800 I don't get the money. 1.00

05:02:42.920 Oh, shit. 1.00

05:02:43.560 I'll cut you a $2 bill. 1.00

05:02:46.020 Do you know how much a $2 bill is worth?

05:02:48.280 It's like $5.

05:02:49.780 No.

05:02:50.200 No.

05:02:50.400 No way it's worth something.

05:02:52.440 I'll be so upset.

05:02:53.340 I used to have so many.

05:02:55.620 That's a $2.

05:02:56.860 $2 bill.

05:02:58.620 Will you wear a MAGA hat for $2?

05:03:00.020 Obviously not.

05:03:01.220 Wow.

05:03:01.640 That's sad.

05:03:02.620 Okay.

05:03:03.800 So no examples.

05:03:04.980 No examples.

05:03:05.720 Just calling me a misogynist.

05:03:07.000 No examples.

05:03:07.720 Nothing.

05:03:08.100 Okay.

05:03:09.040 What's the pseudo...

05:03:10.100 Okay, so moving on to the second.

05:03:13.580 What is pseudo or pseudo-intellectual?

05:03:15.280 Because that's separate from the misogynistic accusations.

05:03:17.980 You say me and Andrew are pseudo-intellectual, or I guess our ideas are pseudo-intellectual.

05:03:24.400 What ideas are pseudo-intellectual?

05:03:30.880 I didn't know Andrew previously.

05:03:32.900 He seems to at least do some sort of research.

05:03:37.100 But again, I just think it's a bunch...

05:03:40.380 I just feel like it's all a workaround to make, like, belittle women.

05:03:45.760 And that's how I feel about your stance.

05:03:49.240 Yeah, but what are the ideas that are doing that?

05:03:51.640 That women are meant to just reproduce and to exist as a certain, like, sexual... 1.00

05:03:56.800 Nobody...

05:03:57.560 That's not...

05:03:58.340 That's what I said. 1.00

05:03:59.260 Yeah, your wife had a whole fucking... 1.00

05:04:01.580 Oh, sorry. 1.00

05:04:01.940 Let me say the F word.

05:04:03.000 But I watched a whole discussion your wife made last night about how women need to reproduce. 1.00

05:04:07.800 And that's, like, basically their ultimate purpose.

05:04:11.820 And...

05:04:12.100 It is.

05:04:12.560 Yeah.

05:04:13.420 And?

05:04:13.880 Okay.

05:04:14.480 Does that mean that their only purpose or value is reproduction?

05:04:17.440 Well, she went on this whole discussion about how women shouldn't pursue their dreams because 1.00

05:04:21.840 it's gonna contribute to population defamation, basically.

05:04:29.320 Or what's the...

05:04:29.780 I don't know that.

05:04:30.480 I don't know a lot of...

05:04:31.520 Yeah.

05:04:31.900 Yeah, yeah.

05:04:32.520 Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.

05:04:34.180 Oh, yeah, you don't know what I'm talking about.

05:04:35.000 And I watched...

05:04:35.720 I literally watched this last night.

05:04:37.300 How do I not know what I'm talking about?

05:04:38.240 I watched it.

05:04:38.620 Tell me what she actually said.

05:04:39.440 Tell me what she actually said.

05:04:40.160 She said that women pursuing their dreams is, like, concluding to population... 1.00

05:04:45.560 Basically, it's what his argument was earlier, though.

05:04:49.380 Yeah.

05:04:49.840 Yeah.

05:04:51.400 Wait a second.

05:04:52.220 It wasn't...

05:04:52.780 My wife?

05:04:53.600 Rachel.

05:04:53.640 Yes, your wife, Rachel.

05:04:55.220 I can...

05:04:56.140 The feminism movement is the blame for this. 0.98

05:04:58.700 I'm not even calling it feminism. 0.98

05:05:00.360 I just watched...

05:05:01.300 I've literally...

05:05:02.180 I watched one of the whatever podcasts.

05:05:05.000 Yes, nod your head.

05:05:06.500 And your wife won this whole, like, monologue about how, basically, women are contributing

05:05:13.420 to population declining.

05:05:17.320 And she's right.

05:05:18.220 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

05:05:19.020 If Rachel came on and said the exact same thing as Andrew, we'd probably all agree with

05:05:23.520 her.

05:05:24.020 Yeah, no, because, like, she's... 1.00

05:05:25.720 Yeah.

05:05:26.240 That's the argument.

05:05:27.180 And, like, I'm not...

05:05:28.140 That's the whole thing.

05:05:30.740 It's the tone, you see.

05:05:32.480 I know.

05:05:32.880 I don't believe in tone.

05:05:33.780 I don't believe in tone.

05:05:34.980 It's the wrong tone.

05:05:35.960 I don't believe in tone.

05:05:37.520 It's the wrong tone over here.

05:05:38.900 I don't believe in tone.

05:05:40.000 I just said what you're...

05:05:40.840 I don't believe in tone.

05:05:41.920 You and your wife are on the same level.

05:05:43.700 I'm not...

05:05:44.080 I'm not saying one is higher than the other because of tone.

05:05:46.500 No.

05:05:46.800 All right.

05:05:47.000 Moving on, then.

05:05:48.520 Well, that's not precisely true.

05:05:49.980 My wife's actually much smarter than I am. 1.00

05:05:52.020 That's...

05:05:52.380 I love that you say that.

05:05:53.500 Good for you.

05:05:54.020 That's cool.

05:05:54.640 Why I only say that because it's actually true.

05:05:56.900 That's cool. 0.99

05:05:57.360 I fuck with that. 1.00

05:05:59.020 I fuck with you saying that. 1.00

05:06:00.340 That means that... 1.00

05:06:00.980 Yeah, that's cool.

05:06:01.540 I like that.

05:06:01.920 Continue.

05:06:02.200 That's why I married her. 1.00

05:06:02.840 I wanted fucking smart babies. 1.00

05:06:04.300 Yeah. 1.00

05:06:05.040 Good for you.

05:06:06.060 I wanted smart babies.

05:06:06.900 That's valid.

05:06:07.680 I like that.

05:06:08.980 Continuing on, Jazz, you said,

05:06:10.860 you think the pod would do better with a different demographic of women 0.92

05:06:13.560 in addition to who you've been casting.

05:06:15.540 You pick only fans and internet women who probably aren't well-versed in debating 1.00

05:06:18.800 or have a nuanced understanding of gender roles.

05:06:21.620 You potentially get an easier own that way.

05:06:24.080 I think the pod would do better and bigger if you had real conversations,

05:06:26.960 less pointed questions.

05:06:28.420 At a certain point, you stopped caring about listening to others' opinions and experiences

05:06:31.640 and conceptualizing that into new thought and deciding how you think now is the end-all,

05:06:35.800 be-all.

05:06:36.600 You should be open and willing to learn every day, no matter your age.

05:06:39.700 It will be your downfall.

05:06:41.240 You're welcome for the unpaid advice.

05:06:43.680 And, I mean, really quick, just on, I already kind of addressed the OnlyFans thing,

05:06:47.760 but it just bothered me.

05:06:49.600 It kind of bothers me a lot because I get straw-manned with this, with the,

05:06:53.860 you only bring on, like, room temperature, IQ, OnlyFans, streetwalker, illiterate.

05:07:04.000 Like, I get totally straw-manned on this.

05:07:06.480 I have a huge diversity of guests who come on the show.

05:07:11.040 15% of guests we've had on the show, like I said, do OnlyFans.

05:07:14.760 So that means, on average, one or two of the panelists have OnlyFans.

05:07:18.380 Sometimes more on the panel do, and sometimes we have no OnlyFans girls on the panel. 1.00

05:07:22.960 And then also, at least from my perspective, I'm a community college dropout.

05:07:29.320 I'm not exactly, like, an intellectual or academic titan.

05:07:33.120 English is my second language.

05:07:35.080 I have brain fog due to severe neck injury.

05:07:38.440 I, like, mumble, or not mumble, I stutter, 0.99

05:07:41.840 and half the time I forget what I'm about to say midway through the fucking sentence. 0.95

05:07:47.400 So, like, this idea that these match-ups aren't, are unfair, 0.95

05:07:51.080 I'm not sure if that's actually the case, but,

05:07:54.040 and I actually frequently have women on who are more educated than me.

05:07:57.760 Like you, for example, you have a, you have two bachelor, or one bachelor's degree?

05:08:03.460 No, a bachelor's.

05:08:05.040 And you're going for your master's degree.

05:08:06.600 We've had other women on who have bachelor's degrees, 1.00

05:08:09.180 master's degrees, PhDs, professors, lawyers, doctors, nurses, etc.

05:08:15.000 Plenty of smart, educated women. 1.00

05:08:17.140 Women who are, I suppose, on paper, more smart or more educated than I am, 0.69

05:08:21.700 but even if they're smart and educated, 0.98

05:08:23.760 it doesn't mean that they don't hold retarded beliefs. 0.96

05:08:26.740 Yeah, you could definitely argue that,

05:08:28.140 and I think me and Andrew both agreed that we are coming on here arguing our points

05:08:33.220 and that we are not going to change our ideas, but it's just the audience.

05:08:37.560 I think we can fix you.

05:08:38.620 No, no, no, hang on.

05:08:39.240 I think we can fix you, Jess.

05:08:40.860 I will change my ideas.

05:08:43.780 Based on good, solid, foundational argumentation,

05:08:46.720 I have changed my ideas.

05:08:49.200 I've had leftists destroy me in debates before 1.00

05:08:53.140 and had to reevaluate why it is I believed some of the stupid shit I previously believed. 1.00

05:09:00.280 Debates are good for doing that. 1.00

05:09:02.580 They're good for helping us adjust our worldviews as well.

05:09:05.940 Now, not many leftists, and this was early on,

05:09:08.680 but the point still stands that, no,

05:09:11.840 I take every opportunity I can to learn from the opposition.

05:09:16.220 Every opportunity.

05:09:18.220 Two chats coming through.

05:09:19.440 We've got our guy.

05:09:20.600 Thank you.

05:09:21.760 Two chats.

05:09:22.920 Sorry for the delay on this, man.

05:09:24.020 My bad.

05:09:24.460 My bad.

05:09:24.520 We are within the confines of our duties, or we face consequences.

05:09:27.960 Yep.

05:09:28.380 Women are conditioned through feminism to reject their duty to reproduce 1.00

05:09:31.960 and instead compete with men.

05:09:34.400 Thank you, our guy, for that message.

05:09:35.780 I appreciate it.

05:09:36.300 We have Pasty George coming in here in just a moment. 0.95

05:09:39.080 Guys, I know there's quite a few that have been batched up,

05:09:41.240 so we'll try to get to the batch soon.

05:09:43.620 But I do see you guys, and just give me a moment to get to that moment

05:09:48.340 where we pull up the lower threshold ones.

05:09:52.060 Pasty George donated $200.

05:09:52.820 Thank you, Pasty.

05:09:53.280 Appreciate it, man.

05:09:53.960 Thank you.

05:09:54.200 Thank you.

05:09:54.880 Shares one and two represent many feminist women

05:09:57.680 who are voting both Canada and America down the drain and into collapse, 0.51

05:10:01.920 which is less than two decades away because of the birth rate crisis.

05:10:06.280 I can't vote.

05:10:07.520 I have a felony.

05:10:10.200 What was it?

05:10:11.480 Why does that not surprise me?

05:10:14.380 I know, Andrew.

05:10:15.720 I know.

05:10:16.900 I told you I was oriented to generate.

05:10:18.300 If I licked my finger and stuck it in a light socket, I would be less shocked.

05:10:22.020 I know.

05:10:22.880 Wow.

05:10:23.320 I know.

05:10:24.180 You're right.

05:10:24.640 You're right, Andrew.

05:10:25.880 I agree.

05:10:27.280 I know.

05:10:28.400 That's a good one.

05:10:29.680 That's good.

05:10:31.140 All right.

05:10:31.440 Back to the notes.

05:10:32.840 Back to the notes.

05:10:34.000 Jazz, you continue by saying your ideology isn't as common as you think

05:10:37.440 and totally frowned upon as society progresses.

05:10:40.800 Yeah.

05:10:41.040 What specifically?

05:10:43.100 Like, what is my ideology, I guess?

05:10:45.500 Again, just gender roles. 1.00

05:10:48.940 That's it?

05:10:49.480 You've got gender roles, though.

05:10:50.840 It's just exclusive of a lot of gender identities, 0.98

05:10:53.360 and I think that that's obviously anti-progressive.

05:10:56.960 So we just disagree there.

05:10:58.880 How many genders are there? 1.00

05:10:59.900 Just curious.

05:11:00.760 Exactly.

05:11:04.080 Exactly.

05:11:06.620 How many?

05:11:08.700 How many?

05:11:09.440 Yeah. 1.00

05:11:09.760 I mean, fucking how many? 0.99

05:11:11.000 Approximation. 1.00

05:11:11.620 Yeah.

05:11:11.800 I don't know if there's, like, a specific number.

05:11:15.660 Are there more than two?

05:11:16.540 I mean, people identify as, like, non-binary.

05:11:19.720 Yeah, what do you think, though?

05:11:20.920 Are there more than two genders? 0.97

05:11:23.100 Like, socially.

05:11:24.360 Like, gender identity.

05:11:25.960 Well, I'm not a doctor, but.

05:11:27.840 There's more than two gender identities, yes.

05:11:31.480 How many do you think there are?

05:11:32.560 I'm just curious.

05:11:34.520 I'm going to say, like, I think it's a crazy-ish number,

05:11:37.260 but I say I'm probably aware of, like, five or six.

05:11:41.260 And you also wrote,

05:11:42.220 How your ideology and perpetuation of the gender binary is ruining society. 1.00

05:11:46.540 So how is it ruining society?

05:11:48.520 I feel like we've talked in circles this entire time.

05:11:50.680 Like, me and Andrew had the discussion,

05:11:52.200 where you think that the best form of society is the structure that you guys perpetuate,

05:11:58.280 and males' roles, women's roles. 0.89

05:12:01.520 And I just think it's very limiting to the human experience.

05:12:03.880 I think women, I mean, again, I'm repeating myself for the hundredth time. 1.00

05:12:08.980 I don't know if you want to hear it again.

05:12:10.280 Well, I just, I guess I kind of laugh or scoff a little bit,

05:12:13.120 because you say there, the, can you just repeat that last part you said there,

05:12:17.220 how it's very limiting to the, what did you say?

05:12:20.220 The human experience.

05:12:21.800 But you yourself place limits on your, on the individual level,

05:12:25.480 on your own romantic partners that adhere to traditional gender roles.

05:12:28.820 Why don't you be the change you want to see in the world?

05:12:31.400 And if I scroll up.

05:12:33.500 And many other aspects.

05:12:34.500 Pay for first dates.

05:12:35.480 Pay for first dates.

05:12:36.720 Don't look to a guy to be your protector.

05:12:38.620 Yeah, and in many other aspects, I do allow men the space to exist,

05:12:44.040 not as a manly, like, put on the front, like, type of deal.

05:12:48.800 But I just think it's a nice characteristic personally.

05:12:50.880 And I don't think, I think it's dangerous to perpetuate the idea

05:12:53.700 that men should do these things all the time.

05:12:55.800 But personally, I think it's nice.

05:12:57.600 You perpetuate them.

05:12:58.140 Just personally, I think it's nice when a man's like, 1.00

05:13:00.360 hey, let me step on the side of the sidewalk.

05:13:02.580 I'm like, oh my God, for sure.

05:13:03.940 Wait a minute.

05:13:04.260 We're perpetuating.

05:13:04.900 Yes, we live in the sidewalk.

05:13:05.540 You can't get rid of that patriarchy if you're doing this.

05:13:09.260 No, I understand.

05:13:09.880 You're putting men back in the women's society 1.00

05:13:12.240 and allowing us to shut up for the wackos to get back in our, 0.97

05:13:18.120 yeah, there it is.

05:13:19.760 I think pushing that idea on.

05:13:21.640 No, what it is is Democrats going into oligarchy.

05:13:24.960 There it is.

05:13:25.900 You guys are the matriarchist oligarchy. 1.00

05:13:29.640 There it is.

05:13:30.600 You know, Bernie Sanders, AOC.

05:13:33.840 There you guys are.

05:13:36.260 There you guys are.

05:13:38.060 Yep.

05:13:40.300 And, oh yeah, Hillary Clinton say, oh yes, us women. 1.00

05:13:45.880 Oh, we're the matriarchs of patriarchy. 1.00

05:13:49.240 Oh, I guess you liberals are matriarchs of oligarchy. 1.00

05:13:54.720 Yes, you are.

05:13:56.600 Yes, you are.

05:13:58.240 Yes, you are.

05:13:58.920 Did any of your medication say not to mix with alcohol?

05:14:02.780 It doesn't matter.

05:14:03.840 I don't care.

05:14:04.640 I spoke the truth right there.

05:14:06.720 I'm 52, man.

05:14:08.860 I don't care. 1.00

05:14:10.920 Oh, shit. 1.00

05:14:11.400 Hey, I'm 41, man. 1.00

05:14:12.680 Well, I don't care.

05:14:14.300 I'm 10 years older than you, man.

05:14:18.800 All right.

05:14:20.680 Yeah, man.

05:14:21.900 Yeah, man.

05:14:23.020 Yeah, man.

05:14:24.280 Yeah.

05:14:25.180 Yeah.

05:14:26.420 Yeah.

05:14:26.840 Yeah.

05:14:27.540 Oh, yeah.

05:14:29.180 Yeah.

05:14:29.540 Wait, wait, wait.

05:14:30.480 Can you do the macho man Randy Savage?

05:14:33.460 Oh, yeah.

05:14:34.460 Oh, yeah.

05:14:38.200 He's going to cry.

05:14:39.240 Wait.

05:14:39.800 Can you say, oh, yeah, brother?

05:14:42.100 Oh, yeah, bro.

05:14:43.020 Oh, nice.

05:14:44.740 Okay.

05:14:45.320 Right.

05:14:45.720 Good talk. 0.99

05:14:47.100 Can I point out that I bought this piece of shit lighter in California? 0.99

05:14:50.360 I've never seen it. 0.99

05:14:50.980 Yeah.

05:14:51.540 That's.

05:14:52.440 You got a BIC, right? 1.00

05:14:53.680 Except in fucking California. 1.00

05:14:54.940 No, it's not a BIC. 1.00

05:14:55.680 It's called a.

05:14:56.860 Yes. 0.99

05:14:57.520 Scoop dough or a suit dough or some shit. 1.00

05:14:59.620 It's the stupidest looking fucking lighter ever. 1.00

05:15:01.860 Oh, that's the way. 1.00

05:15:02.960 That's your problem.

05:15:03.880 Get a BIC, man.

05:15:05.360 Did you get it at the gas station?

05:15:06.960 Yes.

05:15:07.560 Get a BIC, man.

05:15:08.340 Yeah.

05:15:08.840 And don't get one of those see-through ones.

05:15:11.220 Oh, my God.

05:15:12.140 A TTS.

05:15:13.000 Yes.

05:15:13.400 That's crazy. 1.00

05:15:14.240 Those stupid shit bags. 1.00

05:15:15.660 I can't believe that that came in there. 1.00

05:15:17.880 There are only two genders, a man and a woman. 0.98

05:15:21.020 Anything else is just mental illness and more delusion. 0.94

05:15:23.720 Okay.

05:15:23.840 Men have zychromosomes while women have 20 chromosomes. 0.97

05:15:28.520 There are no other ones.

05:15:30.580 What?

05:15:31.400 Thank you for that, Pasty George.

05:15:33.060 Do you want to do a quick response to this?

05:15:35.480 No, thank you.

05:15:36.120 Okay.

05:15:36.520 I'm sorry, Pasty. 0.98

05:15:37.620 But women are still smarter than men. 1.00

05:15:39.700 I thought you guys also.

05:15:41.200 You haven't been addressing me by my pronouns.

05:15:43.580 When it comes to growing weed, it does.

05:15:46.100 Hang on.

05:15:46.440 Pasty sent in $200.

05:15:48.160 I am going to clarify what he's saying there.

05:15:49.960 Yes, go ahead.

05:15:50.600 He's saying that when it comes to chromosomes, women, what he classifies as women as XX, and for men, it's XY.

05:15:59.940 He's saying that there's only two phenotypical pathways which you can develop reproductively.

05:16:05.560 And that's it.

05:16:06.220 And your chromosomes are going to indicate that even if there is XXY.

05:16:10.000 That's it, man.

05:16:10.580 Or, yeah, some other variation.

05:16:12.460 That's it, man.

05:16:13.180 It's $200.

05:16:13.900 The guy is a great supporter of the show.

05:16:15.640 It's $200. 0.99

05:16:16.280 I'm obviously going to clarify his fucking view. 0.99

05:16:18.300 Okay? 1.00

05:16:18.720 Okay, Granny. 0.99

05:16:19.760 All right.

05:16:20.420 Is that all right, Granny? 0.81

05:16:21.540 That I... 1.00

05:16:21.780 No, shut up. 1.00

05:16:22.600 I'm talking with you. 1.00

05:16:23.980 Paste...

05:16:24.580 I'm telling you, no.

05:16:26.720 Don't break down the scientific stuff.

05:16:29.940 No.

05:16:30.200 Oh, Canada.

05:16:32.000 I'm telling you, no.

05:16:33.640 Okay.

05:16:34.820 Jazz.

05:16:35.700 Jazz.

05:16:36.660 You also wrote, you're outdated, and it's a dangerous, uneducated position.

05:16:41.540 How so?

05:16:43.120 I think it's outdated because it's, like, obviously, it's very exclusive of other gender identities.

05:16:48.340 I don't know how many more times I can repeat myself, but I feel like...

05:16:51.560 Okay, you're talking about, like, the gender pronoun stuff?

05:16:54.660 Oh, no, not the pronoun stuff, just...

05:16:56.480 The gender role stuff?

05:16:57.380 Yes.

05:16:59.380 But you have really outdated views when it comes to your own romantic...

05:17:03.360 But, again, I think...

05:17:04.340 Preferences related to men.

05:17:06.260 I think you saying that the structure should be this way is dangerous.

05:17:09.900 Not me and my own personal relationship thinking that, like, a certain characteristic someone has

05:17:14.400 that happens to align with the role of men in society.

05:17:17.440 I don't think that perpetuates...

05:17:19.240 Yeah, but if liberal, progressive, feminist women on their individual... 1.00

05:17:23.440 We have to...

05:17:24.120 Hold on.

05:17:24.480 On the individual and collective level, they say, well, it would be great if men didn't

05:17:29.140 have to adhere to their traditional gender roles, but if all of them, or a vast majority

05:17:33.100 of them, won't enable men through their own individual changing of their own individual

05:17:38.840 preferences, then de facto, even though it sounds nice for you guys to say, well, men should

05:17:44.140 be able to do this, but in application, in practice, in reality, you still hold men to

05:17:50.700 traditional gender roles. 0.98

05:17:52.440 You're just blowing a bunch of smoke and it means nothing.

05:17:55.660 Can I add?

05:17:56.420 So I want to issue a call to action to you and a challenge to you.

05:17:59.940 I want you to dispense entirely with your completely sexist gender expectations of men.

05:18:07.100 You can no longer, from this point on, have any traditional gender expectations of men.

05:18:12.380 I want you to put your money where your mouth is. 0.65

05:18:14.440 If this is how you want society to be, where men should not have to adhere to traditional

05:18:19.800 gender roles, why don't you be the change you want to see in the world and dispense entirely 1.00

05:18:24.620 with your own traditional gender expectations of men?

05:18:28.340 Why not?

05:18:28.800 Yeah.

05:18:28.820 Me doing that in my own personal life isn't going to dismantle the structure that exists.

05:18:33.980 Not with that attitude.

05:18:34.900 But women uphold, if women shifted and they're like, you know what? 1.00

05:18:41.640 We want soy boy.

05:18:43.560 We don't want providers. 0.99

05:18:45.700 We don't want protectors.

05:18:46.840 We want soft, feminine, soy boy guys. 0.99

05:18:51.240 We don't want them to ever do any sort of chivalry.

05:18:53.800 We don't want them to be protectors.

05:18:55.220 Don't want them to be providers.

05:18:56.220 Don't want them to initiate anything, no steps of initiation, asking for your number,

05:19:01.080 asking for the first date, moving things forward, going for the first kiss, moving things forward

05:19:05.120 physically from there.

05:19:07.220 How is it ever going to change?

05:19:09.860 Again, I think that you guys think my take is that that shouldn't be it in any scenario.

05:19:15.700 I just think everyone can have their personal expectations of their partner and that we

05:19:20.140 shouldn't perpetuate ideas onto other people's relationship that wouldn't necessarily fit them.

05:19:24.740 I didn't hear her promote that kind of society, which does sound like it would suck pretty 0.90

05:19:29.980 bad, actually. 0.96

05:19:31.000 It sounds horrible.

05:19:31.740 I just wanted to circle back because you keep using the word dangerous and I feel like we

05:19:35.860 didn't get to finish our conversation.

05:19:37.760 Why do you feel like pushing traditional views is dangerous?

05:19:41.560 Like how is that dangerous to society?

05:19:43.440 If you want to have that in your own relationship, I think that's completely fine.

05:19:46.620 But I think if you're forcing that ideology on other people who don't feel like they fit

05:19:50.340 into that binary, it can be deadly and costly and really restrictive.

05:19:55.780 I don't think I, and again, I think in our society, we're actually forcing the opposite

05:19:59.740 right now.

05:20:00.220 Like we're telling women that their values in their career and their degree and their title 0.99

05:20:03.480 and we're telling men that, no, you, you can be sensitive.

05:20:06.640 It's everything's toxic masculinity, right?

05:20:09.080 So we're actually not pushing traditional values anymore.

05:20:11.740 And our society has gone so far downhill because we're not pushing those traditional values.

05:20:17.040 So the way I see it, if we were to push those traditional values, like Brian mentioned, like,

05:20:21.480 or no, sorry, like Andrew mentioned, like limiting women's rights a little bit so that for the, 1.00

05:20:25.520 for the furtherment of our society, right?

05:20:27.940 Like I don't see, I would see our society getting better because right now it's going

05:20:33.240 downhill because we're not pushing those traditional values.

05:20:36.300 Does that make sense?

05:20:37.320 Yeah, I completely, I just disagree.

05:20:39.100 I don't think that we're, we're losing.

05:20:41.640 I just don't think if we lost a sense of traditional value on a grand scale, like if, if people decided

05:20:47.480 to exist outside of that binary, I don't think that there would be a crisis of reproduction.

05:20:53.180 Yes, there is.

05:20:54.160 Because you know what?

05:20:55.160 There is a woman and a man and that's it. 0.96

05:20:58.400 And there is no other thing.

05:21:00.760 I don't care what propaganda is feeding you.

05:21:04.600 I don't care what your college is feeding you.

05:21:07.020 I don't care what your professor is feeding you.

05:21:09.580 There is a woman and a man.

05:21:11.340 That is it.

05:21:12.060 That we're not talking about that.

05:21:13.040 And that's it, man.

05:21:14.000 And we're not going to do this transgender stuff. 1.00

05:21:16.940 Let her talk. 0.98

05:21:17.160 Let her talk. 0.98

05:21:18.080 Let her talk. 0.98

05:21:20.060 I'm hearing this transgender thing. 0.59

05:21:22.100 No, we're not talking about transgenderism.

05:21:23.720 Hold on.

05:21:24.020 Let her talk. 0.98

05:21:24.920 But the birth rate is going down.

05:21:27.160 Like, it's plummeting.

05:21:28.720 So how can you say we don't have a crisis?

05:21:31.080 We are.

05:21:31.400 I don't think it's possible to do it.

05:21:32.200 Oh my God, that's crazy.

05:21:33.920 Pastor George donated $200.

05:21:36.220 Oh, thank you, Pacey George.

05:21:37.520 I am indigenous Cree or First Nations Cree of Turtle Island, which is now called North

05:21:42.860 America.

05:21:43.860 While I live in Canada, I am not Canadian.

05:21:46.840 The government classifies us as Aboriginal.

05:21:49.640 Is that Dave?

05:21:50.100 Higher, higher.

05:21:51.200 Shout out Dave Ho.

05:21:52.220 Yep, yep.

05:21:53.480 We love Dave Ho.

05:21:54.500 For sure.

05:21:54.920 What's it called?

05:21:55.780 Like, before a speech is given, you do a land acknowledgement.

05:22:01.200 Cover page?

05:22:03.660 Wait.

05:22:04.340 Land acknowledgement example.

05:22:06.220 I should start doing land acknowledgments.

05:22:08.500 We acknowledge here at the Whatever Podcast that we are in the traditional land of the Chumash

05:22:13.700 people.

05:22:14.860 I would like to acknowledge.

05:22:16.040 Wait.

05:22:16.240 This is a good idea.

05:22:17.120 Uh, and the Chumash were the original stewards of this land, and the land was, we honor their

05:22:25.980 long history and stewardship of this land, and we pay our respects to their elders, past,

05:22:30.660 present, and emerging. 0.99

05:22:33.400 He's talking shit, and he mutes it, and then he thinks we can't see. 1.00

05:22:37.660 There's a lot. 1.00

05:22:38.400 Anyways, okay, whatever.

05:22:39.760 Pasty George, thank you for that.

05:22:40.820 Thank you, man.

05:22:41.660 Pasty, I'll do a land, I should start doing a land acknowledgement.

05:22:46.060 But it would be the same every time.

05:22:47.160 What nationality are you, Brian?

05:22:48.500 Can I ask?

05:22:49.980 Nationality or ethnicity?

05:22:51.080 That's out of the blue.

05:22:51.880 Why?

05:22:52.280 Wait, what was your first language?

05:22:53.500 I don't know.

05:22:53.580 I just want to know.

05:22:54.680 Let us guess.

05:22:55.380 Can we guess?

05:22:55.820 If you don't want to answer, it's okay.

05:22:56.900 Well, if you're asking ethnicity, he would be American and white, depending on which criteria

05:23:04.380 you have.

05:23:05.000 Okay, it's not that deep.

05:23:06.100 And, of course, Democrats like the hyphens. 0.86

05:23:07.660 Like your ancestors.

05:23:10.040 You know what I mean.

05:23:10.860 Like your background, your blood.

05:23:12.500 I'm like Eastern European and French.

05:23:15.720 What was your French?

05:23:16.340 So your first language is French.

05:23:17.960 What do you call French?

05:23:18.680 It's a mix.

05:23:19.940 Yeah, I'm a mix.

05:23:21.360 Eastern European and French.

05:23:22.940 So your first language is French.

05:23:24.280 What's your first language?

05:23:25.160 Yes.

05:23:25.500 Do you speak any Eastern European language, or do you speak French?

05:23:30.560 I speak French.

05:23:31.560 Why is he erasing your history?

05:23:35.060 This is erasure.

05:23:36.820 You're right.

05:23:37.780 Wait, I'm just confused.

05:23:39.120 Why does he hate the answer?

05:23:40.920 Mike Davis donated $200.

05:23:42.220 Did the volume?

05:23:43.220 Is the volume max?

05:23:44.100 I'm seeing a ton of messages coming through.

05:23:46.400 Oh, that's weird.

05:23:46.980 Can you read the other two?

05:23:48.820 My bad thought it was $100 to be read out loud, not $200.

05:23:52.860 So here's the $200.

05:23:54.400 We'll try to get to it, but there's a few other things before we've got to do some reads.

05:23:58.880 But I promise you, I have them here.

05:24:01.920 We will read them.

05:24:02.960 But we've got to wait until we do the batch reading.

05:24:06.360 So where were we?

05:24:09.740 A few more things here, Jazz.

05:24:11.240 A few more things here, Jazz.

05:24:12.300 No way.

05:24:12.340 There's no fun stuff.

05:24:13.680 Like, would you rather meet a bear or a man in the woods?

05:24:16.300 We'll get to that.

05:24:17.240 Trust me.

05:24:17.720 We'll get to the other stuff.

05:24:18.600 Jazz, you wrote, I'm not scared of a debate.

05:24:21.260 It's been, like, chronically, like, serious.

05:24:25.160 Jazz, you said, I'm not scared of a debate.

05:24:26.740 You got your bachelor's in political data analysis and minored in economics.

05:24:30.780 You're not going to argue if women's body count matter, LMAO, not legitimizing your position because it's a joke, the body count thing. 0.99

05:24:38.020 And then you said, sure, preference for dating is fine, but you bash women for having high body counts, point blank, not because all of a sudden they're undateable.

05:24:47.200 I actually, you know, if I actually almost give props to women if they reveal their body count, especially if it's high, because that takes courage.

05:24:57.120 I don't agree with their decisions, but I don't bash them.

05:25:00.360 Can we point out your argument? 1.00

05:25:02.040 Bitch, you're not going to be with those women with a high body count. 1.00

05:25:04.300 I'll be honest, 30. 1.00

05:25:05.600 Wait, did you?

05:25:06.300 Last 30.

05:25:07.000 Is that drool?

05:25:07.480 Is that drool on your shirt?

05:25:09.460 No, that's just.

05:25:10.620 Okay, don't.

05:25:11.420 Oh, my God.

05:25:12.060 I've got to put it over here before.

05:25:13.500 All right, it's all good.

05:25:14.140 Sorry, go ahead, Jazz. 0.98

05:25:15.240 Go ahead.

05:25:16.440 Your argument was like.

05:25:18.360 Yes.

05:25:19.380 Is it?

05:25:20.140 Something about.

05:25:21.300 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

05:25:22.360 Just move it on.

05:25:22.940 Okay, go ahead.

05:25:24.700 Women having a higher. 0.93

05:25:26.220 You don't want a woman with a higher body count or an equal body count to yours because it's correlated with infidelity. 1.00

05:25:34.140 Oh, you're talking about when we actually argued about it.

05:25:36.780 Yeah, that's where this conversation is from, right?

05:25:39.860 Yeah.

05:25:40.380 Well, I think that was your first thing that you went to when we were having the back and forth.

05:25:45.460 Yeah.

05:25:45.720 I also do think it is hypocritical to suggest that you're allowed to have as many partners as you want, but women should be monogamous and only have one partner. 1.00

05:25:55.500 I don't really argue that, so I don't think.

05:25:57.800 That's what you argued previously.

05:25:58.880 I don't know.

05:25:59.420 Well, so I don't think promiscuity is good in men or women. 0.81

05:26:03.320 Okay.

05:26:03.980 But I do think that there's a couple differences.

05:26:06.520 I do think men, I think if a woman doesn't want to date a guy who has a high body count or he's a player,

05:26:12.680 I think that's totally justified, no qualms whatsoever.

05:26:16.900 But I do think it is the case that women, generally speaking, seem to care less about it than men,

05:26:23.200 or they might not even care at all.

05:26:24.580 Maybe if it's like an insane body count.

05:26:25.780 Men care more is the thing. 0.99

05:26:26.840 Yes, men care more.

05:26:28.020 Yes.

05:26:28.300 And I think there's reasons for that.

05:26:29.900 I think there's societal reasons, cultural reasons, but I think primarily it's biological reasons.

05:26:35.700 Men have a greater disgust response to promiscuity in women.

05:26:39.500 So there's that.

05:26:40.640 And then I would also just say in terms of the differential, in terms of why, again,

05:26:45.560 I don't think promiscuity is good in men or women, but I think the difference is that you might hear from other people

05:26:51.920 where if a male's promiscuous, it's kind of big upped by some men.

05:26:57.780 They're like, oh, you're a stud. 1.00

05:26:59.000 But if a woman does that, she's a slut. 1.00

05:27:00.900 Well, I would argue that that's viewed differently because it's really, really easy for a woman to be a slut, 1.00

05:27:05.720 whereas it takes some degree or perhaps quite a bit of a degree of skill to be a slut as a man. 1.00

05:27:11.720 Yeah. 0.95

05:27:13.000 So as a woman, every single woman here, if you wanted to, you could probably even, it's 10.30 on a Sunday,

05:27:20.380 you could hop on Tinder tonight, get laid tonight.

05:27:23.440 Vast majority of men.

05:27:24.500 Not true. 0.98

05:27:25.100 Not fucking true at all, man. 0.98

05:27:27.340 I think even you could do it. 0.99

05:27:28.720 Not fucking true at all, man. 0.99

05:27:29.740 Not fucking true at all. 0.98

05:27:30.880 I have a question. 0.99

05:27:31.400 Do you think it's biological for men to want to sleep with a woman? 1.00

05:27:33.860 Bullshit. 1.00

05:27:34.980 Bullshit. 1.00

05:27:35.560 Man, I'll, yeah. 1.00

05:27:36.500 Do you think it's biological for-

05:27:37.560 What, you don't think you could get laid tonight? 0.98

05:27:39.900 Hell no.

05:27:41.160 Not with that attitude.

05:27:42.520 No.

05:27:42.940 No.

05:27:43.500 I mean, if I, you know what? 1.00

05:27:44.820 If I wanted to fucking just sit there and, you know, yeah, some ugly asshole. 1.00

05:27:49.340 Here, let's do a hinge right now. 1.00

05:27:50.020 Some ugly asshole. 1.00

05:27:51.560 Let's do a- 1.00

05:27:52.300 Wait a minute. 1.00

05:27:53.140 Some ugly asshole? 1.00

05:27:54.380 No. 1.00

05:27:54.980 Some decent-

05:27:55.740 All right.

05:27:56.020 Whatever.

05:27:56.380 Yeah, I don't-

05:27:56.940 Wait, Brian, I have a-

05:27:58.160 What's up?

05:27:58.660 What's your question?

05:27:58.880 Do you think it's biological for men to want to sleep with more women than women to want 0.99

05:28:03.100 to sleep with more men? 0.96

05:28:04.580 Yeah, I would say that there's, yeah, I mean, you can make an argument.

05:28:08.820 Why so?

05:28:09.600 Do you think there's more social pressure because you get the big ups?

05:28:12.620 Or social conditioning?

05:28:13.960 Well, hold on.

05:28:14.320 I'm getting a bunch of different questions here.

05:28:16.140 Go on.

05:28:16.420 So, I mean, I think that there could be a different sexual strategy because men don't get pregnant. 0.75

05:28:22.680 So, they can, like, men can impregnate multiple women in a day.

05:28:27.040 Or, I mean, there's not women. 1.00

05:28:28.380 Whereas women, you can only get pregnant for nine months at a time, right? 1.00

05:28:32.760 So, how is that biologically ingrained in your brain to want to sleep with more women? 0.77

05:28:37.980 Because men want to spread their seed and, like, narcissistic evolution. 0.99

05:28:42.600 Literally, biology and science.

05:28:44.040 I would say there is, like, an evolutionary or biological component of men wanting to spread their seed.

05:28:50.080 But I don't think that's good for society.

05:28:52.620 No.

05:28:52.860 Yeah, no, I didn't ask if it's good for society.

05:28:54.840 Just ask if you think it's biological.

05:28:56.520 Yeah, sure.

05:28:56.940 I'll grant it.

05:28:57.440 And also-

05:28:58.180 I don't think they should do it.

05:28:59.180 But, yeah, I'll grant it.

05:29:00.080 Do you think that there's societies that believe otherwise?

05:29:06.200 Well, hold on.

05:29:07.300 Now we're getting away from biology and evolution.

05:29:09.040 You're saying that because it's not a point.

05:29:09.420 Yeah, Christian societies have valued-

05:29:11.340 I'm talking about Christian societies.

05:29:12.700 Christian-

05:29:13.140 Well, you're asking of societies.

05:29:14.660 Christian societies throughout all human history have valued chastity and monogamy in both men and women.

05:29:20.780 Both men and women were supposed to remain virgins until marriage.

05:29:24.020 I wasn't talking about Christian societies.

05:29:25.700 I'm just saying-

05:29:26.220 But you're asking about societies.

05:29:27.460 No, I'm asking if you think it's biological and if you think that there's actually-

05:29:32.420 So, my argument is that it's social conditioning versus it's not biological.

05:29:39.060 And so, do you think that they're-

05:29:41.020 Yeah, because I feel like women are- 1.00

05:29:43.440 It's frowned upon for them to have multiple partners, whereas like you were saying with men.

05:29:47.520 Yeah, so I think a lot of it is socially constructed too.

05:29:49.980 Yeah, I agree that there's a social construction.

05:29:51.900 I can name multiple societies currently.

05:29:54.660 But that's something that has to do with more than one other man.

05:29:56.000 There's societies in southwestern China that they allow-

05:29:59.100 Most things are multiple contributors.

05:30:00.180 Yeah.

05:30:00.280 You know, there's the biological and there's the societal-

05:30:02.960 Exactly.

05:30:03.500 I don't think it's biological.

05:30:04.520 I think it's social conditioning.

05:30:05.800 Well, one doesn't have to rule out the other.

05:30:07.420 Yeah.

05:30:07.640 There can be the biological argument that Brian stated.

05:30:09.640 I don't think it's biological at all.

05:30:12.080 Okay.

05:30:12.640 What's-

05:30:12.960 Why do you think more men-

05:30:13.740 There's actual proof.

05:30:15.160 There's like multiple societies who-

05:30:17.400 When you're looking for a virgin, man, you're not going to have it-

05:30:20.200 Which societies?

05:30:20.940 What do you mean?

05:30:21.260 So there's a society in southwestern China.

05:30:24.120 I believe it's called the Muasa, something like that, yeah.

05:30:28.360 What are they?

05:30:29.900 So they believe that the women can have open courtship where they can have multiple partners. 0.83

05:30:35.920 And the men actually come home at-

05:30:38.480 Why are you like not-

05:30:39.440 Are you saying, oh my God, this is like actually factual.

05:30:42.560 No, I'm not-

05:30:43.260 Sure, I'm going to grant the example.

05:30:45.460 But are they still going-

05:30:46.320 And then there's also a society in Papua New Guinea.

05:30:49.220 There's also societies in Africa as well.

05:30:52.860 But what?

05:30:53.820 It's just trying to prove-

05:30:55.120 No, no, no, go back to the Chinese. 0.99

05:30:55.740 I'm basically saying that like there are-

05:30:57.560 America has- 0.52

05:30:59.460 Like we just look at America like, oh no, like these certain-

05:31:03.800 And Western civilization is superior.

05:31:07.700 Okay, elaborate.

05:31:09.100 Why is it superior?

05:31:09.840 Oh, in first to industrialize, most of the inventions created are from Western countries.

05:31:15.560 I would argue not.

05:31:17.280 We are like so behind in technology and like-

05:31:20.580 Like have you been to Asia?

05:31:23.220 Like it's so much more like advanced, like here.

05:31:26.880 We are nothing compared to other countries.

05:31:29.540 Name an Asian nation which is super advanced that was not significantly influenced by the West for those advancements.

05:31:36.620 Go ahead.

05:31:37.200 Not significantly advanced?

05:31:38.560 Some young guy.

05:31:39.540 Like there is nothing comparable to like, we are living like in the 50s compared to like-

05:31:45.260 Can you repeat back my question?

05:31:48.020 Yeah, you said name a society that's not influenced by Western civilization advancement.

05:31:53.260 No, that's not what I asked.

05:31:54.000 Okay, say it again.

05:31:54.940 Can I ask?

05:31:55.760 Say it again then, Andrew.

05:31:56.720 This is your shtick.

05:31:58.120 I've studied you.

05:31:59.020 Trust me.

05:31:59.380 I know you.

05:32:00.480 Well, if you studied me, here's the thing that's interesting.

05:32:03.340 Okay, what's interesting?

05:32:04.220 Studying a debater and studying his rhetoric doesn't actually give you any defense from it.

05:32:08.940 I'm not trying to defend you.

05:32:10.080 I'm just saying that you're-

05:32:10.940 Here's the thing that's interesting.

05:32:12.500 It's like, I asked you a specific question.

05:32:14.700 I asked you, which Asian nation can you name that has all this advanced technology-

05:32:20.220 China!

05:32:20.580 Which was not, stop, which was not heavily influenced by the West for these technological marvels.

05:32:28.540 China.

05:32:29.000 So don't say China.

05:32:30.020 No, not China.

05:32:31.020 China is literally the entire industrial base and all of technology which exists in China

05:32:37.400 was ripped off from the West, especially from our businesses, from GE, from, I can give you tons, Boeing.

05:32:46.000 Yeah, okay.

05:32:46.980 Chrysler.

05:32:47.620 They ripped all of that technology off from us.

05:32:49.940 And by the way, they're not more technologically advanced than the United States.

05:32:56.940 You got another example?

05:32:59.020 Hey, she just called you a puta.

05:33:00.280 Hang on, hang on, hang on, let her answer.

05:33:02.540 Do you have another example?

05:33:03.960 I'm not just talking about Asian societies.

05:33:05.820 You didn't let me keep going on.

05:33:09.280 So, Qatar, have you been to Dubai?

05:33:11.760 Have you been to Dubai?

05:33:13.000 It's way more advanced than here.

05:33:14.540 Oh, Dubai.

05:33:15.300 You mean a Western-

05:33:16.820 That's not Western.

05:33:17.780 That's not Western.

05:33:18.840 Yes, it is.

05:33:19.220 Dubai is the most Westernized airport which has ever existed in history.

05:33:25.180 It's the Middle East. 0.88

05:33:26.520 Hang on.

05:33:27.480 Even Baghdad, even Baghdad, when it was all influenced by the West, it was considered a central trading hub of the world, is not as Westernized as Dubai.

05:33:37.440 Westerners literally live in high-rise buildings there.

05:33:40.220 Dubai looks like Disneyland.

05:33:41.700 He makes a good point.

05:33:42.480 It's not, but it's not, so why, tell me, tell me why, they-

05:33:46.500 They have what's called the Palm Islands, lady. 1.00

05:33:48.660 Tell me why, no, lady, don't stop calling me lady.

05:33:51.440 It's so, like, arbitrary. 1.00

05:33:52.660 Like, stop that shit. 1.00

05:33:53.900 You keep mentioning- 1.00

05:33:55.060 It's arbitrary to call you lady or it's specific?

05:33:57.320 It's just like, it's kind of like, um, like you're trying to insult me, but like, lady? 0.99

05:34:02.920 Like, no, I don't fuck with it. 0.99

05:34:04.060 No, no, I just don't know your name. 0.99

05:34:04.660 I wasn't here for the beginning for the names.

05:34:06.560 My name is Erica.

05:34:08.160 People also call me E.T.

05:34:09.420 So, hello, Andrew.

05:34:10.480 Nice to meet you.

05:34:12.200 Yeah.

05:34:13.160 Hello.

05:34:14.940 Well, Erica-

05:34:16.120 Yes.

05:34:16.780 Dubai is heavily influenced by what-

05:34:19.100 Really?

05:34:19.540 Did they tell you that?

05:34:20.840 By Western money.

05:34:21.920 Are you the mayor of Dubai?

05:34:23.600 He is.

05:34:24.140 Oh, my God.

05:34:25.840 I want to, like, I want to know your affiliation with Dubai because apparently you know everything

05:34:29.960 that they're, like, they're involved with the U.S.

05:34:32.220 Because I make a valid point.

05:34:33.920 You don't-

05:34:34.060 You don't make a valid point.

05:34:35.460 Where-

05:34:35.740 So, your whole argument all the time was, like, what is your statistics?

05:34:38.580 Like, what is your arguments?

05:34:39.500 Like, you have no, like, credentials with that.

05:34:41.840 Oh, I know.

05:34:42.340 That's crazy.

05:34:43.040 I need credentials.

05:34:43.780 I am-

05:34:44.380 I'm not crazy.

05:34:45.520 I'm not crazy.

05:34:46.580 I'm making an actual factual argument and you're trying to say, oh, they're influenced-

05:34:50.720 They're influenced by the-

05:34:52.000 Like, okay, sorry, you said Disney.

05:34:53.620 They're influenced by Western society.

05:34:55.460 They're not influenced by Western society.

05:34:57.240 Like, what are you talking about?

05:34:58.780 1,000% Dubai is influenced by Western society.

05:35:01.960 No, it is not because tell me why the U.S.

05:35:04.220 It is literally an American order.

05:35:06.220 So, then why does the U.S. not have the technology they have?

05:35:09.560 Tell me.

05:35:09.920 Okay, what technology do you think the U.S. doesn't have that technology?

05:35:12.240 Have you been to Dubai?

05:35:14.340 Can you name the technology you think Dubai is?

05:35:16.960 It's way better than the U.S. 0.95

05:35:18.840 Let me tell you that. 0.99

05:35:19.700 We look like we're living in the fucking 50s here. 0.98

05:35:21.800 Okay, so real quick, can you repeat my question to you? 0.98

05:35:24.740 No, I'm just saying.

05:35:25.940 I'm sorry.

05:35:26.780 Can you repeat my question to you?

05:35:28.860 What is your question, Andrew?

05:35:30.120 Please repeat it.

05:35:31.240 Can you name the technology Dubai has that the United States-

05:35:35.060 The architecture is technology.

05:35:37.660 What?

05:35:38.360 The architecture is technology itself.

05:35:40.540 The architectural technology.

05:35:42.860 Yes.

05:35:43.800 What architectural technology do you think Dubai has that the United States doesn't have?

05:35:48.220 So, have you been to Miami?

05:35:51.020 Yes. 0.99

05:35:51.880 They're living in the fucking 50s compared to Dubai. 0.98

05:35:55.600 And, like, and basically every city here. 0.98

05:35:57.920 Like, have you been to all the cities across America?

05:35:59.900 They don't even measure up.

05:36:00.960 And you don't mean what architecture technology Dubai has that the United States doesn't have.

05:36:05.660 And Asia.

05:36:06.480 Like, it's just, it's not, you can't even compare. 0.99

05:36:08.680 Do you think that Miami is more primitive than fucking Asia? 0.99

05:36:11.960 Yes. 0.99

05:36:12.280 I'll let some chats come through. 0.99

05:36:18.760 You're trying to make me look stupid, but I'm way more- 0.99

05:36:21.480 Hold on. 0.99

05:36:22.400 I don't even think you've been to Dubai.

05:36:23.860 I got to move it on.

05:36:24.740 Interrupting.

05:36:25.460 Chair five.

05:36:26.440 Thank you.

05:36:26.720 She was discussing the birth rate crisis with chair one and how she believes it either doesn't exist or is not that bad.

05:36:34.580 There's two other chats I need to let come through.

05:36:37.020 We have Sensei and then we have Pastey George.

05:36:39.540 Sorry for the delays on these guys.

05:36:41.020 I try to get them in as soon as possible.

05:36:43.100 There's a little break.

05:36:45.560 We have Sensei coming in here in just a moment.

05:36:48.660 Thank you, Pastey George.

05:36:50.120 Sensei T-shirt.

05:36:50.740 Sensei donated $200.

05:36:53.220 Chair two is higher than a giraffe's rainbows.

05:36:55.820 Thank you. 1.00

05:36:56.360 Oh, it changed, it was ass. 1.00

05:36:59.860 Normally I hear this- 0.99

05:37:00.920 Wait, what do you mean?

05:37:02.520 It was what?

05:37:03.820 Wait, what?

05:37:04.480 What'd you say?

05:37:05.620 Oh, it, the Streamlabs, it'll change bad words to other words. 1.00

05:37:09.940 So, it's a giraffe's ass. 0.99

05:37:11.980 But it changed ass to rainbows for some reason. 1.00

05:37:14.800 Cheers. 0.95

05:37:15.280 Thank you, Sensei.

05:37:16.060 Higher than Sense.

05:37:16.720 Thank you, Sensei.

05:37:17.480 Appreciate it. 0.96

05:37:17.860 I wish I was high-fucked. 0.93

05:37:19.180 We got Pastey George. 0.94

05:37:20.340 Pastey George donated $200.

05:37:22.540 All indigenous peoples in Canada and America lived in the Stone Age until European settlers

05:37:28.640 came to North America and brought their technological inventions.

05:37:33.160 Now, all reservations have internet LOL.

05:37:37.000 Actually, no.

05:37:38.280 I'll go a step further.

05:37:39.540 Remember, almost all societies, except far eastern societies, basically lived under primitive

05:37:46.720 conditions.

05:37:47.340 You probably have chat GPT in front of you, like, actually, Andrew.

05:37:50.820 Like, you have the benefit.

05:37:52.380 Like, you're in front of a computer screen.

05:37:54.300 It's all in his brain.

05:37:54.880 It's all in his brain.

05:37:55.620 I don't believe that.

05:37:56.480 I'm not.

05:37:56.760 Listen, listen.

05:37:57.700 Because why didn't he have that argument earlier?

05:38:00.120 Hang on.

05:38:00.560 I agree.

05:38:01.360 There's actually an olive branch I'll give you.

05:38:03.080 Okay.

05:38:03.480 I do agree that you would be at a disadvantage to me.

05:38:06.500 Why is that?

05:38:06.780 The only time, though, that I source information from the internet, I will always tell you that 1.00

05:38:11.680 shit. 1.00

05:38:12.100 Okay. 1.00

05:38:12.520 I will always tell you that shit. 1.00

05:38:13.660 Okay. 1.00

05:38:14.020 Thank you.

05:38:15.040 That is fair.

05:38:16.160 Right?

05:38:16.480 That's fair.

05:38:17.180 Facts.

05:38:17.660 Okay.

05:38:17.720 I always do want to be fair.

05:38:19.100 Right?

05:38:19.660 Yeah.

05:38:19.940 Even if I'm in a live debate, I'll tell people, like, go ahead, look it up.

05:38:23.780 Pull up your cell phone. 1.00

05:38:24.720 Look that shit up. 1.00

05:38:25.400 Why are you shaking your head? 1.00

05:38:25.780 You know, things like this.

05:38:29.020 There's a lot of notes.

05:38:30.460 Okay.

05:38:30.780 All right.

05:38:31.040 I'm sorry.

05:38:31.340 Um, we'll do a few more from Jazz, but Jazz, have you ever been on a date with a guy who

05:38:37.220 you really like, who you're really attracted to, and then you disclose that you're like

05:38:41.540 a woke feminist, and then the soul, you see the soul leave the guy's body when you tell 1.00

05:38:47.180 them that you're a feminist? 1.00

05:38:49.680 No, I don't necessarily identify as a feminist, so I would never claim that, but I do let my

05:38:55.920 ideologies be known.

05:38:57.500 You can categorize it however you'd like.

05:38:58.960 Like, but, um, I don't know.

05:39:01.400 I think a lot of, uh, if they are conservative or whatever, or they have ideologies that don't

05:39:07.200 align with mine, they usually, like, get energized.

05:39:10.240 I don't see them get, like, drained.

05:39:13.000 I mean, in your, I think it's in your link tree or whatever, dissecting power, race, and

05:39:18.440 gender norms. 0.81

05:39:18.980 I feel like most guys, they see that, well, I suppose if they're more conservative leaning.

05:39:23.300 And they're off-put, you think?

05:39:24.400 The, the, the eyes just glaze over.

05:39:26.600 They're like, oh man, she's like, she's kind of cool and, like, good looking or whatever,

05:39:30.380 and then it's just like.

05:39:32.240 Defeat.

05:39:32.660 Oh no.

05:39:33.880 I'm telling you, I'm looking for, I'm looking for a very specific man that probably doesn't

05:39:38.260 Would you date Destiny?

05:39:39.660 Do you know who that is?

05:39:40.320 Um, I've heard of him.

05:39:42.440 Okay.

05:39:42.760 Like, streamer.

05:39:43.460 Uh, in your essay that me and Andrew thoroughly kind of didn't really go through, I, well,

05:39:48.600 I've read it sort of.

05:39:49.640 Why would you even say that?

05:39:50.960 I mean, I, I thoroughly went through it, honestly.

05:39:53.800 Thank you, Andrew.

05:39:55.320 But it was only a few paragraphs.

05:39:56.920 Yeah, it was easy.

05:39:57.700 Yeah, come on. 0.77

05:39:58.520 I, I went through it.

05:40:00.120 Oh, see?

05:40:01.040 You said, patriarchy refers to a social structure in which power is disproportionately held by men.

05:40:05.480 Historically, this is indisputable.

05:40:07.380 Only men were allowed to own property. 0.99

05:40:08.880 Open bank accounts.

05:40:09.760 Vote.

05:40:10.320 And participate fully in public life.

05:40:12.260 Over time, women have gained legal rights such as equal access to employment, pay equity, 1.00

05:40:16.480 credit, military service, and protections against discrimination.

05:40:21.120 Uh, Andrew would probably dispute quite a few of these as it relates to owning property,

05:40:24.840 open bank accounts, voting.

05:40:26.880 Uh, I don't know if we have a bunch of time to dive into each of those specifics.

05:40:30.560 I, I don't know if, um, like, women being able to join the military is necessarily like

05:40:37.300 some sort of like, like a privilege necessarily, but I don't know.

05:40:41.520 Um, you also wrote, modern Western ideals often present gender roles as natural, making 0.75

05:40:46.740 much of the manual labor both historically and currently fall onto men.

05:40:50.380 While some might argue that biology justifies this division, the deeper consequences of such

05:40:55.220 a structure are far more troubling.

05:40:57.240 But so do you disagree that men are more capable and able physical laborers?

05:41:02.040 No, I don't disagree with the, uh, predisposed biological and genetic differences between men and women.

05:41:07.980 I disagree with the fact that we should structure and force every man and every woman to participate 1.00

05:41:13.620 in those specific roles all the time.

05:41:15.780 Yeah, but is, is that actually the case?

05:41:21.520 Because even, even under basically the most patriarchal systems that I can think of,

05:41:28.560 there's always people who are outliers who don't participate in the, the normalcy of society.

05:41:36.060 Like, that's just always the case.

05:41:37.820 So I, I'd like, this is why I don't, I never understand what feminists are actually advocating 1.00

05:41:42.000 for. If you agree with us that the health of a society is going to be based primarily along

05:41:47.360 the lines of gender roles, meaning men are going to do most of the destructive labor jobs 1.00

05:41:52.120 and the protection roles, and women are going to reproduce society. 1.00

05:41:55.620 What is it that feminists actually are arguing for here? 1.00

05:42:00.860 Um, I just don't think that our predisposed, um, genetic traits should be the end all be all,

05:42:08.300 even if you think that that is the most beneficial structure for us. I just think it's again,

05:42:13.660 exclusive to a lot of people who, like you said, are outliers in this case. I don't think it's a

05:42:18.440 good idea to force those roles on the outliers. I think the outliers. So what should we do with

05:42:23.400 the outliers? I think they should feel free to exist, uh, and not be demonized or frowned upon

05:42:29.360 or emasculated in a sense of what would make them outliers? The fact that they don't exist in

05:42:36.560 the realm of the binary, as you describe it, they don't, they don't exist. Like if you were going 0.82

05:42:41.100 to say what a mental illness was, if I were to ask you, how would you identify what a mental illness

05:42:47.420 is? Isn't the only way to actually identify it is to look at behavioral patterns, which go against

05:42:54.240 the norm of society. Isn't that really the only way to even identify mental illness? I think a mental 0.84

05:42:59.880 illness, um, is classified as it causes impairment in the individual's life. So it's not so much that

05:43:06.300 it goes against the norm. It's that it causes impairment in their functioning. How do we know

05:43:10.600 what impairment is? Um, an inability to function at work, at home in a variety of settings. So not

05:43:20.160 normal? Well, not being able to function. And then force the rest of us to give in to what you guys

05:43:28.640 are doing. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Let us have the exchange. Hang on. She's barely 0.98

05:43:34.140 spoken the whole evening, right? Let's, let's give her the floor for a second. Do you agree with me

05:43:39.700 though, that the idea of can't function is abnormal? It goes against mainstream. So I'm not going to argue

05:43:48.340 with the word normal. Yeah. Yeah. So if it goes against the mainstream, mainstream being what we

05:43:53.320 would consider broadly normal, isn't that how you identify mental illness is by looking specifically

05:43:58.800 for behavioral patterns, which aren't normal? Sure. You could say normal. Yeah, sure. Because

05:44:04.540 you know, you say atypical, you know, right. Sure. Yeah. Sure. I don't, I don't even know how

05:44:09.800 since psychology is the study of the mind, which is just the study of behavioral patterns.

05:44:16.000 How is it that you could ever judge something was mental illness or an issue other than to say,

05:44:22.380 when we compare this to the sample size of other people who aren't you, this isn't the behavior we

05:44:28.340 see. I mean, yeah, that's one way. I think impairment and functioning also indicates, um,

05:44:36.680 an inability to function. So if you can't work, if you can't sustain a relationship, if you can't

05:44:42.800 perform tasks or function in a variety of settings, then it falls under the category.

05:44:49.400 No, that can't, that can't, that can't be the case because if a person had a leg that was like

05:44:54.340 cut off. Well, you're talking about mental illness. Hang on, hang on, hang on. During an

05:44:58.740 industrial accident. That's what it is. Mental illness. You wouldn't consider that to be a

05:45:02.400 mental illness, right? No, that's a physical disability. I'm talking about if it's a mental.

05:45:08.360 But that would definitely inhibit a person's ability to function, right? Of course, but that's

05:45:12.800 not. So we're looking at behavior. We have to be looking at behavior here. Well, yeah,

05:45:16.580 we're looking at behavior. Yeah. So if it's behavior, we're not talking about your ability

05:45:21.060 to walk. We're talking about. Yeah. So how would you ever judge that the behavior was

05:45:25.760 mentally ill or wrong or this or that, unless you were able to compare it to a sample size

05:45:31.720 where you said most don't behave this way? I'm not arguing against normal. You want to use

05:45:39.640 the term normal? That's fine with me. Well, in this case, when I say normal, I just mean

05:45:44.600 we would attribute that these behaviors over a sample size, which is way greater than this

05:45:53.900 one subset, we would call that normal. Yeah. Like if we were to say 60% of men like big

05:46:02.740 a man want to call himself a woman, normal? No. What? No. Without you drunk. Hang on, 0.69

05:46:07.980 drunky. What the fuck? No. Real quick, real quick, back to you. Drunky? Hell no. If I were 1.00

05:46:12.920 to say that like 60% of men. I'm telling you, no. There is no man going to call himself a

05:46:17.360 woman. I don't give a fuck what he does. Yeah, I know. Nobody's talking about that, 1.00

05:46:21.220 though. Nobody's talking about that. But anyway. That's what it is. That's what you're trying

05:46:27.240 to talk about. Yes, you're trying to dance around it. You're fucking insufferable. Can

05:46:31.220 anybody talk except you? Good Lord. Anyway, the nice lady hasn't even said two words. She's 0.95

05:46:39.060 engaging in good faith. I'd like to finish my conversation. That's okay with you, your fucking

05:46:43.260 majesty. So anyway, back to you. If you were to say like 60% of men like women with big breasts, 0.99

05:46:52.400 you would say that's normal, right? If over 60% of men liked big breasts, then liking big breasts 1.00

05:46:58.320 would then be classified as normal. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. So, so what I'm saying here is

05:47:05.040 that the way that you would identify mental illness is to take behavioral patterns over the large group

05:47:11.640 and say, this doesn't fit in with those behavioral patterns. So therefore it's odd, weird, abnormal.

05:47:17.620 Yeah. I've, I agreed with the use of the term normal. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

05:47:22.300 I'm just, I'm just clarifying it. Okay. So, uh, you know, kind of, kind of back to her when she's

05:47:27.100 talking about outliers. Yeah. Right. She's trying to speak to people who generally, I would say have

05:47:33.300 abnormal behavioral patterns. So I would consider them. Outliers, not normal. Mentally ill, right?

05:47:41.040 Well, that's still subjective. Well, you know, yes, yes, yes, it is. Psychology is pretty fucking

05:47:49.660 subjective. Yes. I think it depends on how they're an outlier and how they're defying the 0.98

05:47:54.500 norm. So. Yeah. Well, I don't think so. Well, I mean, you can't just say everybody who goes

05:48:00.120 against the norm has a mental illness, but sometimes. No, no, no, no, no. Not everybody who goes against

05:48:04.480 the norm. Because I'm sorry, a dude thinking he's a woman. Hang on. No, man. No. No, I'm sorry.

05:48:11.540 You're still fucking insufferable. You can't get three words across to each other without you 1.00

05:48:15.980 freaking out. Yes, we get it. Men can't be women. Yes, I understand. I totally agree with 1.00

05:48:20.680 you. Was there anything else that you wanted to add? Oh, really? That was useful. That's

05:48:24.760 what we're talking. Really? Really. I'm not even. Andrew, how do you feel to be a sugar daddy?

05:48:36.340 How do you feel to be a sugar daddy? I couldn't hear you. What'd you say? How do you feel to

05:48:41.300 be a sugar daddy tonight? That's not. You think that it's sugar daddying that a nice

05:48:48.180 young couple who hasn't been on the honeymoon who you berated her husband, that the crucible

05:48:52.660 is going to send them off on a honeymoon. That's sugar daddy. Yeah. You and the crucible

05:48:56.600 are sugar daddy. What do I get? What do I get? No, I love it. It's like, it's such good

05:49:01.500 energy. You're like on the sugar daddy energy. I love it. Yeah. I mean, how does it feel to

05:49:06.180 be completely insufferable and use words when you clearly don't know? Why don't you

05:49:10.120 tell us, man? I don't think I'm insufferable. I think I'm valid. Shit. I just, I love that

05:49:17.060 you're participating in the culture that I partake in. Like you just, you, you just like

05:49:22.580 you sugar to the, the, the couple over here, the Christian couple, the cult. I love it. 0.99

05:49:27.460 So to get this right, anytime you call into a radio show and you win a sweepstakes, they're

05:49:33.140 being a sugar daddy. Fuck yeah. How, wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. Is this a, is this 1.00

05:49:37.540 a radio show? Did you, did you call into a radio show? Okay. What was the question?

05:49:45.020 See, I think you, you've been the sugar daddy of the night. You just paid 3k. That is like

05:49:50.540 equivalent to what sugar daddies do. You just did it. You're like, oh, I'm going to fund

05:49:54.380 this Christian couple cause you're a cult leader. And so there you go. Oh, so now, so if I'm a 1.00

05:50:00.380 cult leader, can you tell me what a cult is? Um, a cult it's, I don't know the actual

05:50:06.640 definition, but see, this is your thing. You love to ask people, what is the definition

05:50:12.620 of this? Like, what is your definition? So my definition of cult, you like to push your

05:50:17.380 belief onto others. That's like essentially what you do in most like arguments. So the government's

05:50:22.240 a cult? Yes. 100%. Oh, okay. 100 fucking percent. Brilliant. Take that. I mean, I'm not going to

05:50:29.800 say that cause hi, love the government, but like, yeah. The government is cult leaders.

05:50:36.560 Fuck yes. Yeah, I know all these assholes shut me down. But like, wait, wait, wait, I'm so 1.00

05:50:39.900 wait, Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, hold on, hold on, hold on. Are you the government? You're

05:50:43.980 not the government? Are you the fucking senator? No, you're not. No, these assholes shut me 1.00

05:50:48.920 down, calling me grandma and shit. Girl, we're not even, we're not even talking about you 1.00

05:50:53.140 right now. Fucking grandma. But no, that's what they do. Girl, I'm not even talking to you 1.00

05:50:58.780 right now. I'm sorry not to be a bitch, but like, let's be real here. Whoa, that 0.95

05:51:04.100 sounded like she was being kind of a bitch to you. Not going to lie. I am. She 1.00

05:51:07.960 sounds, she sounds kind of rude. No, I'm just like, I'm just trying to tell you

05:51:11.240 right now, like you're giving me shit and you also call me an OF model. I don't do 0.98

05:51:15.400 OF and you're calling me a prostitute. No, no, no, you call me. Did you prostitute? 0.99

05:51:19.220 Oh no, you called me. No, no, no. So let's, let's get this straight. Baby, let's get this 1.00

05:51:25.360 straight. You called me an escort, whereas you essentially were a sugar daddy to this

05:51:29.500 couple over here. So you're like, you're trying to be a swinger. Like, hello, you're 0.96

05:51:33.740 trying to like swing this couple with your 3K and your Christian cult. So, so to get this 0.99

05:51:40.700 right, you fucked men for money. Oh, I never said I fucked men for money. Oh, I 1.00

05:51:47.040 never said I fucked men for money. I said, I never said I fucked men for money. I said 1.00

05:51:52.860 I have relationships, I have relationships with men and they give me, um, gifts and

05:51:57.880 donations. I never said, I never, do you have, hang on, do you have sex with some of 0.97

05:52:03.360 those men who give you gifts and donations? I never said that. That's, I, can you answer 0.91

05:52:08.080 my question? I never said that though. But Andrew, Andrew, you're asking me, but I never

05:52:14.080 said so. Do you have sex with some of these men who give you gifts and money? No, I haven't 0.95

05:52:19.200 lately. No, you fucking lie. Oh, you lately? I haven't lately. No, no, I have not. Um, but 1.00

05:52:26.100 you, wait, wait, Andrew, why is it? Wait, wait, I love how you're, I love how you're trying

05:52:30.900 to like totally like dis, like make the argument go another way and call me a prostitute. No, 0.98

05:52:38.020 no, no. Your, your defense mechanism is to call me a prostitute and say, I have sex 1.00

05:52:42.840 with men for money. When I literally called you out for giving this girl money when you're 1.00

05:52:47.060 being a sugar daddy. That's what a sugar daddy does. Like I literally go on dates with men

05:52:50.700 and they give me money just for like existing. That's what exactly, that's not what you did

05:52:54.280 to her. Is it not? Is it not? Did you not give her money for existing and having a, having

05:52:59.840 a relationship with someone? You're like, I'm going to give you 3k. That's what sugar

05:53:03.380 days do. So congratulations. You're a sugar daddy. Congratulations. Whatever podcast

05:53:07.780 Andrew is a sugar daddy. We love it. Yes. Yes. Smoke that cigarette, baby. Glutinous. You

05:53:15.920 gluttony. You're indulging in your gluttony. So any of those men that you went on dates with

05:53:23.020 who gave you money and resources? What does that have to do with what I just said about

05:53:27.160 your, like, you're, you're totally like disregarding what I said. You're a sugar daddy. I love it

05:53:31.540 though. I want an answer. I want an answer to my question. Yeah. You and your wife are

05:53:35.300 swingers, sugar, um, sugar couple. We love it. Swingers. Yes. Answer my question. I love

05:53:40.580 swingers. Ooh, your wife, your wife should swing with me. You and you guys can like go 0.99

05:53:45.220 hang out with me. Yeah. Got it. Did you have sex with any of those men though? I never said

05:53:49.400 that. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm asking you. I never said anything. Yeah, I know. Can you

05:53:54.480 answer the question though? I, I, I just received donations from people who want to give me

05:53:59.140 donations. I never have sex with any of those men or not. Why, wait, why should I answer

05:54:04.740 to you actually? Because you know what the answer is. Oh wait, really? Do you, do you

05:54:09.460 know what the answer is? What do you think the answer is? I want to know what you're, what

05:54:12.300 do you think? I think the answer is yes. Okay. Then you, then I believe the answer is yes

05:54:15.600 because you said that it was. You're entitled, you're entitled to that answer. Wait, what'd

05:54:22.120 you say? Earlier you said, I don't do that anymore. Anymore. But I never said sex. That

05:54:30.780 means you didn't. No, no, no. That was specifically to the queen. Anymore. Sex, sex doesn't mean,

05:54:35.440 what is your definition of sex? Define your definition of sex, Andrew. If you ever, if a

05:54:41.580 man ever put his penis inside of any of your orifices. Am I orifices? Your mouth, your 1.00

05:54:50.800 ass, your vagina, or you put his, your hand around his penis for any elongated period of 1.00

05:54:56.820 time, or he ever rubbed his penis on you consensually at any time. Did any of those things ever occur 1.00

05:55:03.320 I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember. I, it may, I don't know. Maybe, maybe

05:55:11.800 it did. I just don't remember if you were a prostitute or not. I was on Xanax. I don't 0.98

05:55:15.460 remember. I used to be a drug addict. I'm sorry. Of course. I'm sorry that you don't. I know

05:55:19.900 I'm the total definition of what you think I am. I can actually see how you could make

05:55:24.720 the equivocation and the comparison that me funding a young, uh, married couple's honeymoon.

05:55:33.540 Oh no, you're a sugar daddy. You're a sugar daddy. Oh no, baby. I go out with men for 0.96

05:55:38.260 nothing. I just sit there and that's essentially what you did to her. You just said, I'm going

05:55:41.940 to give you 3k because you're a young couple. I've gotten money just for being a young girl.

05:55:46.740 That's what you just did. So you and your wife are sugar couple. And I fuck with that.

05:55:51.760 I think you guys are so like, I think that's sexy. So you should like really rep that. 1.00

05:55:56.260 I think you should like put that in your bio and your crucifix. Be like, we're sugar couple.

05:56:00.640 We will give you money for like, just being like a hot young couple. You know, I think

05:56:05.760 when women, just to make sure I got this right. Anytime you give a homeless person money, you're 0.99

05:56:11.640 a sugar daddy. Fuck yeah. Is she homeless? She's not homeless. Well, with your logic, that's 1.00

05:56:17.920 what you're making it sound like. No, it's not. Bro, you just got 3k.

05:56:21.760 From a couple that gave it to you because they're a sugar couple. Can you stop talking

05:56:25.040 over me? He's not very jealous. I'm not talking over you. I let you speak what you said. I just

05:56:28.380 said what I said and I speak a little louder. That's not talking over you. So speak what

05:56:31.640 you have to say. When women do this, when they attack another woman and like go off. 1.00

05:56:36.260 How am I attacking you? You're attacking Andrew. You're attacking, you've been attacking

05:56:40.080 me this whole time. I feel like I've been very. I have not been attacking you. Let me finish

05:56:43.060 talking. I've been very respectful of you this whole time. I have not said anything to you.

05:56:47.620 Let her fucking finish, lady. Girl, I have not been attacking you. That's a crazy statement. 0.99

05:56:53.360 You called my, you said I was groomed by my husband. How's that attacking? Stop talking.

05:56:57.940 You said my. How's that attacking? You said. Define it. Can I, can I continue speaking?

05:57:01.900 Sure, go ahead. Go ahead. You said I was groomed by my husband. You said my, my religion is a

05:57:07.320 cult. Yes. And now you're accusing Andrew of being a sugar daddy for doing a nice gesture

05:57:12.620 just because. Oh, that's hard. No, when women act like this, it comes out of a place of such 1.00

05:57:16.560 jealousy and unhappiness and you wouldn't have to attack me like this if you, if you were

05:57:21.360 happy with yourself. This isn't a taxi, your type of. Her husband's a groomer isn't an attack.

05:57:27.340 Really? You're taking as an attack because I don't think you can handle the truth. Your

05:57:31.820 husband's a groomer. That's. You've literally lived such a sheltered life. I don't even think

05:57:35.420 you know what like real life is. What? How do you, do you know my entire life? Really? I don't know

05:57:40.380 your life, but what I'm seeing, like what you're displaying, like it's very sheltered

05:57:45.960 because you already kind of like somewhat attacked me earlier. So. When did I attack

05:57:51.480 you? You basically attacked me in saying that like I'm trying to kill babies too. I never 1.00

05:57:57.840 said you were trying to kill babies. I said you believe that killing babies is okay, which 0.98

05:58:02.200 you do believe killing babies is okay. So I made a factual statement. I never said I believe 0.98

05:58:05.460 killing babies is okay. A baby is a baby. A baby is not a baby if it's in like the womb 1.00

05:58:10.860 like in the first month. Okay. Well, it is like life begins at conception. So okay. Agree

05:58:15.200 to disagree, but you did say you're okay with killing. Science is up for negotiation. It's

05:58:18.920 actually not that proven. All right. What's not that proven? So Andrew, you actually said

05:58:24.460 that psychology and science are not that real. Science? No. No, you've like, you've said

05:58:30.980 this before. Psychology is a soft science though. It's not real science. I know, but

05:58:35.360 you, you don't, you don't believe science is that real. What are you, what are you talking

05:58:40.560 about? Tell me something. I know you're trolling now, but it's still. How am I trolling? Just,

05:58:44.380 just, just, just let me ask you this. What's the scientific method again? I don't know what

05:58:49.160 the scientific, you can call me drunk or whatever the fuck you want to say, bitch. Like I didn't 1.00

05:58:53.060 say anything about you. You're whispering to her. If you have something to say to me, say

05:58:57.180 it to me. She just said you're not being serious. You don't even, I didn't say anything about

05:59:01.060 you. You don't even fucking know me like that. So shut the fuck up. All right, fine. I think 0.99

05:59:05.020 you have, do you have a relationship with your father? What is, what is the significance

05:59:09.520 of that? I'm just asking. Okay. So my, this, this actually leads to my argument earlier.

05:59:15.760 You were trying to say that people should not get abortions. And my argument was that you 0.91

05:59:20.260 come from a two party household. So how can you make that argument when people come from 0.97

05:59:23.560 broken households that they like, can't really, um, support a child. So like, you would not

05:59:29.640 know you came from, you're very privileged. I can tell, I can tell what you, what you've

05:59:33.240 said this whole night. You've barely talked. You're very submissive to my, no, no, no,

05:59:36.880 Andrew, Andrew, like you're not even here. You're not even here. You're in a box on the fucking

05:59:43.420 computer screen. Like shut the, like, my perspective, you're in a box on the computer screen. Oh my 1.00

05:59:48.580 God. Okay. My box is hotter than yours. My box gets more money than yours, baby. That's

05:59:56.460 funny. But, but you're right. She sheltered. She never sucked dick for money. You're right. 1.00

06:00:00.260 Oh, I never said I sucked dick for money. Did you ever suck dick for money? Have you 1.00

06:00:05.100 sucked dick for money? No. No, I'm asking you. Oh my God. I love that for you. Answer 1.00

06:00:08.400 the question, lady. Lady. Answer the question, lady. Answer the question. Lady. You're not 0.98

06:00:15.600 going to answer it, are you? I never, I'm not, I take the latter. I don't, I'm, I'm

06:00:21.720 unemployed. I'm unemployed. I don't have a job. What are you talking about? Yeah. Well,

06:00:25.560 when he did have a job was, I never, I've never had a job in my life. When he did have

06:00:29.720 a job, was it ever a blow job? I've never had a job. I've just like, I'm a civilian. Yeah.

06:00:37.280 I'm a broken, I'm a broken child, you know? Anyway. Let me get the fuck out of here.

06:00:48.640 Man. If I, I feel like you're just trying to like dig your way up from China at this 0.99

06:00:53.660 point. Dick my way up where? I don't want to dig my way up in your vagina. Hell fucking 1.00

06:00:58.360 no. That shit sounds like tumultuous. Uh-uh. Where's your whiskey at, Andrew? Let's take a 1.00

06:01:06.940 shot. Come on. Let's take a shot with your whiskey. I know you love whiskey. I have some,

06:01:10.660 I have some drunk cherries at the bottom. They've been. Oh, cheers, Andrew. Cheers. Cheers to being

06:01:16.680 a degenerate and gluttony. Eat those whiskey cherries. Vodka cherries. All right. Well, 0.99

06:01:31.500 were you going to finish your point? What? I, we, we, it kind of got interrupted. I asked

06:01:36.760 you if you had a relationship with your father, then you proceeded to go off on me. Why is

06:01:40.240 that? Um, I just asking, I'm just curious. But why is that relevant? Ask, can you answer

06:01:45.340 my question? Why is that relevant? Because I'm just wondering what your family. Tell me

06:01:49.580 about your relationship with your father. I'd love to hear all the like. I honestly didn't

06:01:52.860 have a great relationship with my dad growing up. What was it like? Very distant. He's out

06:01:57.280 he's an alcoholic. I mean, so, so you came from a broken family. I mean, I would, I don't know

06:02:03.140 if I would use the term broken and I, there were definitely flaws in my, my parents and

06:02:07.860 my family. And you know, I think that's with every family. I, I, but I, what I did instead

06:02:13.100 of making an excuse and being like, well, I come from a broken marriage, whatever it may

06:02:19.120 be. Like I actually learned a lot from it. And I had said, I don't want that in my husband.

06:02:23.880 So I asked you earlier, if you came from a broken household and you said you didn't,

06:02:28.220 I said, it's not, it's my parents are still together. I mean, they have a house. They're

06:02:32.800 successful. I don't, I don't. But why are you now saying that you came from a broken

06:02:36.600 household? When I asked you earlier, because you're, you're defining my dad being an alcoholic

06:02:40.640 and me not having a great relationship. You said broken. So I'm bringing this to a broken

06:02:44.700 household back in. It's not broken in the fact that my parents are still together.

06:02:49.420 That is broken. You're not, now you're actually like, you're being real right now. And I

06:02:53.260 appreciate that. Super chat just came through. No, I appreciate you being real right now

06:02:57.160 because you earlier, you were not being real. Now you're being real. And I like, I can see

06:03:00.780 why that you would go for an older man. Like I get it now. It's okay. Now it's okay. Okay.

06:03:05.220 And make Brian a sandwich. Oh, wait, what? That's probably Dave. Wait, chair two, calm

06:03:09.780 down. Is it Dave? Is he pasty George? Make Brian a sandwich or burrito? I feel he is pasty George.

06:03:13.660 Dave, how? Dave, how? Shut up, Dave. Sorry for the delay on these guys. I was, I stepped away

06:03:17.880 from the, uh, I stepped away. Yeah. She said older. Dave, how? Shut up. 0.94

06:03:24.340 Hang on. She got, she met him when she was 17. If you don't, if you don't ask me, that's 1.00

06:03:32.880 predatory. I looked, I looked like this at 17. I didn't look like a child. That's even

06:03:38.160 worth like a, like a, um, a debate argument. Thank you. How was that? You looked like that

06:03:44.500 chair two chair two hang on just my name is erica please address me by my name i'm not chair two

06:03:50.760 i'm an actual like human being so you know what you're right erica but no one question for me

06:03:56.480 and tell bitch i'm more popping than you actual tell the actual truth 1.00

06:04:00.180 when you were 17 did you ever fuck a guy in his 20s nope i didn't lose my virginity till 19 1.00

06:04:07.660 you're fucking coping i swear to god i swear to fucking god i was literally in 1.00

06:04:14.980 band all throughout school i was a nerd i don't care i know you don't care i know we get it 0.99

06:04:21.240 claim donated two hundred dollars thank you playing appreciate it more than a submarine with a

06:04:26.820 leak she ain't he got no reason behind her argument this is the first time she got to speak without 1.00

06:04:33.360 yeah totally thank you what that your dad's penis in my mouth you're welcome your dad's 1.00

06:04:39.620 cum tastes like fucking oh my god shut up okay mike davis i mean actually i do you think that that's 1.00

06:04:45.740 insulting to the guy do you do you think that's insulting andrew that's insulting to him i feel 1.00

06:04:52.320 like your cum tastes disgusting because you seem like you eat fast food all day oh this is like such 1.00

06:04:56.960 vile convo all right brian uh so me out okay bitch kick me the fuck out next subject stop just 1.00

06:05:05.160 stop no she literally just said kick me out do you want me kicked out kick me out chat hello well 0.99

06:05:09.360 okay mike davis asked the following uh how much to kick her yeah let's do 2k it's 9 999 in bitcoin

06:05:18.840 my bitcoin wallet is in the description that's if you want one or kicked out also you call me an 0.96

06:05:26.580 of girl i don't do of andrew it's okay no but he said that earlier he's like oh i'm a prostitute

06:05:32.760 jungle donated one thousand dollars do you not unmute the microphone i hereby bring back the okay your 0.99

06:05:42.120 microphone is muted so dumb and chair three granny deserved 30 minutes muted bitch i'm getting uber 1.00

06:05:48.400 back i don't want to fucking be here dude you're not overing back right now wait there's really good 0.99

06:05:53.960 stuff we still need to get into so why don't you do this you were being rude to me just now you're not 0.99

06:05:57.840 yourself you call me lady like be nice to me brian you just called me a bitch excuse me you didn't use 0.96

06:06:03.100 my preferred pronouns hey sit down sit down sit down or don't even you're like you're you're taking 0.99

06:06:08.940 you're letting these men like take your whole like i see your game you do and this is why you

06:06:14.860 were in a groomed relationship you let men just like dictate you you're like you're doing a little

06:06:21.080 thing one man i'm not doing anything this is me you're doing a little thing where you're trying

06:06:24.640 to get under her skin by yeah and we know nothing about her personal relationship so let's uh don't 0.99

06:06:30.400 let me start on you well you've said fucking words you get you've said words all fucking night girl 0.99

06:06:36.400 hold on all fucking night i've gotten text messages from people that actually have intelligence you've 1.00

06:06:41.000 said words out all fucking night that don't make sense i don't agree jazz are you gonna let her 0.99

06:06:44.980 talk to you like this oh no she you don't know you uh you literally like i agree with half what you 0.93

06:06:50.740 said then half we sound like girl what the like actually like yeah we don't have to agree yeah i know

06:06:55.520 i know but like you can be respectful towards her and not respect girl we're on a podcast what do 0.85

06:07:01.880 you mean respect you can respectfully debate you don't have to call people bitches and say that 0.99

06:07:05.780 their husband groomed them and say i don't know what that's how is that rude to say bitch and 1.00

06:07:09.720 your husband grooms you that's condescending when you don't know anything about my relationship 0.99

06:07:14.240 you called me drunk as an argument earlier this conversation is drunk are you drunk as your 1.00

06:07:18.480 fucking argument so no don't even get there you literally thought you were having you were being 0.99

06:07:22.920 condescending like are you drunk are you drunk just because you noticed i was drinking tonight 1.00

06:07:26.380 but you were drunk though girl i'm always drunk what what's the argument and she was trying to act 1.00

06:07:32.380 like i'm like inebriate in a way where i'm like no oh she's gonna 0.93

06:07:36.800 hi everybody i was groomed by my fucking 20 year old man when i was 17 hello we love it actually i don't 0.98

06:07:47.880 love it bitch i'm ubering back i do not like you should stay for the uh the con your notes 1.00

06:07:54.280 et no bitch like this is see like you think i was calling you a bitch bro you're the one beefing 1.00

06:07:59.860 with everybody you're the one chirping everybody i'm not chirping you're chirping we should just settle 0.99

06:08:04.700 down i finally say what i have to say because i heard what she said earlier and she thought she

06:08:09.340 was being all like speak if you're going to speak at least do them to them i'm sorry i'm sorry brian i

06:08:14.220 forget you should invest in headphones like hello you make how much money but you had some things to

06:08:20.320 say go ahead and say them uh there's oh my god that's crazy there's chats coming through hopefully

06:08:26.660 we can redirect the conversation away from those donated 200 lulu thank you appreciate it too

06:08:31.560 this is why you want me to save okay cool develop self-esteem sorry money isn't everything

06:08:37.000 it's all right going to dubai you're doing great you're doing good crap on you will mess up 0.51

06:08:40.960 i haven't gone to dubai that's it's not too late for you have you been to dubai have you been to 0.99

06:08:46.620 dubai you don't know my fucking life well you okay then you lied earlier you don't know me yeah you 0.98

06:08:52.540 guys are friends no why are you beefing your friends like actually like be quiet please please 1.00

06:08:57.960 like you don't you're absolutely right you don't know a lot of are you gonna let her talk to you

06:09:02.040 like that you don't let her talk to you like that i'm not brian i'm not gonna engage whatever

06:09:06.880 wait into the mic if you can you're a little far uh okay we have beach master chad beach master chad

06:09:14.260 thank you bro chatu is saying she should have been aborted because her childhood wasn't i never said 1.00

06:09:20.140 that it's not beach master chad no that's what she's you're fucking you probably have a little dick 1.00

06:09:25.480 that's like this oh man uh thank you probably the little dick you jack master yeah that's uh 1.00

06:09:31.660 three feminist arguments i'm not even a feminist i don't want to control what men do with their 1.00

06:09:36.800 dicks men are trying wait she got muted more men have small 1.00

06:09:40.240 oh yeah i can't even i can't respond right why am i saying that's crazy i can't even defend myself

06:09:48.280 notification goes off thank you oh i'm finally i'm not even drunk i'm way too sober and i want to get

06:09:54.560 the fuck out of here like that's the vibe oh god wait we haven't even gotten into your amazing 0.60

06:10:01.800 tiktok videos you just gotta wait i want to see the tiktok videos yeah you just wait yeah you are 0.99

06:10:07.480 muted because john hold on hold on just wait just wait we'll get there big sass energy are you my 0.87

06:10:13.480 caucasian are you okay are you my homie i don't know are we homies look enjoy your pizza

06:10:22.340 enjoy your juice have take a little breather okay you're giving me anxiety why am i giving you anxiety

06:10:29.100 look you got some delicious pizza in front of you you you said you were hungry eat your pizza 0.99

06:10:36.100 back on this fucking situation this is crazy you're stressing your does anybody have some 0.99

06:10:41.760 okay stop stop stop stop your mic's muted your mic's muted nobody can hear you 1.00

06:10:49.180 you need to like actually space a little more years i'd meet the mic you want them 0.98

06:10:55.100 andrew i only if jungle hey i have more views tonight than any other fucking jungle will 0.98

06:11:02.080 understand how many views are there right now i'd like to know andrew do you speak as 0.51

06:11:06.660 andrew stop stop stop andrew do you speak as the agent of jungle he backs me 100 guaranteed

06:11:16.960 i need the mic okay well i need the mic yeah but bro she i wanted to hear what she's saying i can't 0.99

06:11:25.780 hear what she's saying you don't want trust me you don't want to hear the shit you don't want to hear 1.00

06:11:28.960 the shit i want to hear it now you're beefing with me now what the fuck you just you're acting like 1.00

06:11:35.020 we don't have beef but you just said you don't want to hear it she has to say the fuck the fuck 1.00

06:11:38.940 yeah the fuck yeah you're crazy the fuck uh let i need to there's a lot to get through guys 1.00

06:11:48.980 this is gonna be i need to get through 1.00

06:11:51.180 eat your pizza lady you asked for pizza by the way where's the cash where's the cash you said 0.99

06:11:57.360 you're gonna give me cash where's the money where's the fucking money you want cash because 0.99

06:12:08.500 you're a stripper all right listen let me get through a bit of the show brian wants cash because 1.00

06:12:14.900 he's a stripper you know what this would be like the ultimate full circle thing where you have all 1.00

06:12:21.460 these sugar daddies and you just send that shit to me you should you should i already had a sugar 1.00

06:12:28.320 pony up to even be here pony up send that shit send the money okay all right we we're really late 1.00

06:12:35.660 on this one so we're gonna do this this is everybody's favorite segment here there's a lot 0.99

06:12:40.360 okay after this we're gonna do we'll do a super chat break because there's a a lot stifler ask everyone

06:12:46.960 to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven starting with you why can't

06:12:54.120 we pick seven everyone everyone picks seven yeah so you gotta lean either towards a six or towards an

06:13:00.560 eight

06:13:00.760 looks i don't know you're an eight

06:13:09.920 i mean her opinion i guess no what's your what's your opinion though i mean if we're

06:13:16.660 factoring in other characteristics i would pull the supers i'm talking to mary god but um just looks

06:13:25.120 i don't know i don't really i don't know i have a different opinion on beauty it's all subjective and

06:13:31.040 i think i'm confident and how i look so so just what eight you said um yeah sure room for improvement

06:13:41.920 uh morin or norin thank you for the uh shop.whatever.com purchase hold on

06:13:47.180 uh we have jungle left he says to unmute but here's the rule though he does get to assign you

06:13:53.840 you have to wear this for the next 15 minutes jungle stone yeah yeah put it on what do i get

06:13:59.580 pop champagne you get the privilege of wearing the hat put it on it'll look good on you i want i

06:14:05.100 want something in return you need a you need to put my instagram in your bio for this video

06:14:09.820 put the hat on can you can we make an agreement you're gonna put my instagram in your bio for this

06:14:15.600 video i don't not link their he doesn't like instagram anymore so you need to link my instagram

06:14:19.360 negotiate with terrorists okay i don't negotiate with terrorists put the hat on hold on put the

06:14:24.680 hat on what distinguishes me as a terrorist please please i'd love to hear you trying to make this

06:14:30.300 like are you you just called me a terrorist that's a huge accusation this girl's like trying to get me 0.97

06:14:35.640 on like oh because i look no you were telling me to wear a hat so then put my costume in your bio

06:14:40.100 going there oh yeah you called me a terrorist i think wearing this silly hat might be anxiety

06:14:44.960 reducing actually how many people have worn that is there lice is there bed bugs like

06:14:50.520 what's the hat for i know brian made a joke it's a joke i made a funny it's true he made a joke

06:14:57.020 i gotta you gotta put the hat so are you gonna call my instagram in your bio for the video i don't

06:15:02.900 negotiate with terrorists put the hat on how am i a terrorist what's the hat you've terrorized

06:15:07.160 this entire panel oh you've caused me terror you've caused do you feel like action i do feel

06:15:15.800 personally victimized what did i do to personally victimize you what did i say to you you before the 0.93

06:15:21.680 show you looked at me and i was a little scared i was a bit frightened i have big ass eyes hang on 0.75

06:15:28.800 brian's being way too modest so me and brian have had in-depth conversations before i've been in the

06:15:33.960 studio and he has told me that nothing irritates him more than when a chick goes after a young 0.77

06:15:39.600 happily married couple because she's fucking jealous and since he saw that it irritated him 1.00

06:15:44.520 he was very upset by it i understand completely why that is the projection is crazy i think you're 0.98

06:15:50.240 the one who's irritated because you have a wife that was married like two times before you and has

06:15:55.540 like multiple kids with multiple baby daddies and i think that's like a projection from you

06:15:59.460 how does it feel to have a wife that's not pure what you're saying is that i'm a really good person

06:16:06.000 you have an impure wife and you're over here preaching purity talking about his wife your wife 1.00

06:16:11.220 and how am i preaching pure what is your like input have to do with what him and i are discussing 0.98

06:16:16.320 what does anything you're saying have to do with anything what does anything he's saying have to

06:16:20.100 do with what's happening you're just talking to talk at this point am i am i i think what you

06:16:25.660 said at the beginning of the show was actually let's let's discuss what you said at the beginning

06:16:28.580 of the show you have a ministry where you prescribe only fans people that is not what let's let's

06:16:35.400 let's discuss it go into depth i'd love to hear it let's go into depth after the show if you'd like

06:16:40.080 to follow the oh no wait let's do on the show let's go andrew did you hear what she said at the

06:16:43.480 end of the show she has a ministry where she has only fans girls i do not have a minute okay then

06:16:47.860 i'd love to hear because maybe i heard it wrong well let's hear it i think she tires 0.93

06:16:51.460 your investment with my goal investment tires myself up oh i'm just getting started i'm way 0.99

06:16:56.680 too sober right now that's cool why don't you keep talking i need a fucking shot at this point 0.99

06:17:01.780 jesus christ you gotta put your hat on jungle insists you put that are you gonna put my 0.99

06:17:06.300 instagram in your bio i don't i need views my music because no one listens to my music because 0.96

06:17:10.500 no one fucking likes me you had your chance to sing your song but i can't think i have i've gone 0.91

06:17:15.520 way too much hate for my voice on that i can't sing straight you're on american idol hate for your 0.98

06:17:19.640 voice well yeah put it on go ahead listen to on spotify it's actually decent there we go

06:17:22.860 she's gonna do yeah brian what is who has worn this uh mostly felicity mostly felicity has

06:17:32.400 felicity she's taylor drift she's the star everyone taylor drift is the star of the show actually

06:17:37.320 brian you're lucky to have her jazz can you spin the helicopter on the top of her she should she 0.99

06:17:41.680 would be way more popping if she was in la she would leave your ass that looks great if you're in la 1.00

06:17:45.800 you would literally be popping as fuck you'd probably be with all this like the top streamers 1.00

06:17:50.420 you're here with fucking brian just came brian you're my clout sugar daddy tonight 0.99

06:17:57.240 cut the show we're just getting started this is gonna be a doozy of a show all right so uh here 1.00

06:18:07.740 let me you know what wait oh yeah we got okay pasty george pasty george hold on

06:18:12.480 we're leaving i was dead i was about to get uber 0.98

06:18:15.080 pasty george donated two hundred dollars calm down chatu that's david suck those props 1.00

06:18:24.280 shut up and suck those it is david david you've donated so much money give me that money dave 1.00

06:18:29.520 dave dave ho give me that money are you are you good are you okay oh my god i'm so fucked up right 1.00

06:18:38.020 you know wow okay this is just my personality brian just here tone it down like you're up 0.96

06:18:44.840 here right now i'm sorry i'm sorry just bring it down a little bit this hat is so ugly i can't

06:18:49.660 it it fits it actually works for you it's like one of those hot dogs on a stick it's like a hot

06:18:56.220 dog on a stick i know it looks like a hot dog on a stick uh a couple people how much to kick

06:19:01.740 uh guys it's it's you got to do uh nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars via bitcoin the 0.69

06:19:08.700 the wallet is in the description if you want to kick somebody uh okay oh yeah we're gonna rate

06:19:14.540 yourselves yes that was what we were doing what's your rating i would like to uh get to that kat 0.66

06:19:20.540 thank you for the 50 memberships thank you kat appreciate it thank you thank you thank you

06:19:24.140 uh scale of one to ten really quick guys if you can just so we aren't here all night give me quick

06:19:29.280 answers things fucking ugly uh jazz quick answer please um eight because someone else said it and 0.97

06:19:34.740 it's subjective okay uh four intel leave that one up from intel up too late uh intel you'll 0.99

06:19:44.180 four four freaky four okay what about you what was that oh my god what the fuck is going on with 0.93

06:19:52.720 this panel uh on a scale of one to ten what do you rate your physical looks oh my physical looks 0.98

06:19:59.560 on a scale of one to ten god damn answer the question six thank you thank you appreciate it 0.88

06:20:04.460 five thank you six eight five in my prime i was an eight today i'm a five all right what about you 0.84

06:20:12.880 six okay got it uh going around the table super quick answers please do you think you'll be better

06:20:18.520 looking in 10 years time um yeah i think so i have good genes okay 20 years time better looking than i

06:20:27.260 do now how old is that i think 40 will be my prime 40 is your prime i think so yeah all right what

06:20:33.200 about after that maybe maybe a little down you're 30 better looking in 10 years time at the 40 i'm 0.93

06:20:37.960 gonna be rich as fuck in 10 years so yeah are you guys done with your pizzas by the way i didn't eat 0.88

06:20:42.860 done done done done why what are you gonna do with it eat pizza are we are we taking it away 0.99

06:20:47.500 put the uneaten ones felicity if you can in the refrigerator uh can i take it home 0.99

06:20:53.740 no okay you want you wanted to go box for the studio pizza yep i do i box that shit andrew do you not 0.98

06:21:04.640 all right i know you're like manorexic over here cool uh we need a boost i remember when brian 0.98

06:21:10.680 offered you food you're like i gotta go i took i had a flight i haven't slept

06:21:14.280 okay better looking in 10 years time i don't remember this oh i remember everything yes yes i

06:21:22.260 will hell yeah okay uh so you're well you're 52 uh and then if we go back in time will you be 0.99

06:21:29.820 better like were you better looking at 42 than now hell yeah hell fuck yeah uh okay 32 hell fuck yeah 0.99

06:21:40.060 22 no about about the same yeah what the fuck okay um 20 years time will you be better looking 0.99

06:21:50.540 than you are now in 20 years yeah so 72 hell yeah wait how can you simultaneously be better looking in 1.00

06:21:57.580 20 years time but you were better looking 20 30 years ago because i decided to get off my ass and 0.99

06:22:04.960 work out and do everything that okay you know all right some little youngins didn't want to do 0.99

06:22:10.660 the mic please in 10 years yeah you're 40 better looking in uh and were you better looking at 30

06:22:16.560 than now yeah better looking at 20 than now yeah okay savannah uh what about you better looking in 10

06:22:23.200 years time yes 20 years time yes uh 30 years time no okay so better at 29 better at 39 uh you're 45

06:22:31.700 better looking in 10 years time 55 no and then you're 45 were you better at 30 better looking at

06:22:36.540 35 yes okay better looking at 25 yes okay uh you're 50 will you be better looking in uh 10 years time

06:22:44.420 at 60 obviously not and then you're 50 were you better looking at 40 oh yeah better looking at 30

06:22:49.920 and then 20 yeah yes to 30 20 i'm gonna say no okay and then for you better looking in 10 years time

06:22:58.080 at 29 i think i'll be better until i'm around 60 better at six when's your peak until 60 um so wait

06:23:06.300 just to be clear 59 so in 40 years time you'll be better looking at 59 than you are now at 19 yes

06:23:12.340 okay well we've uh we've ai advanced all of you

06:23:20.800 i hate this so much this is evil

06:23:25.200 i can't i give me sun damage that i'm not gonna have or we can actually uh just for the sake of time

06:23:34.020 for the sake of time i can come back to that because maybe andrew wants to jump in on some of the more

06:23:40.540 more of the topics here okay that's fine i do very much appreciate it was very nice to meet all

06:23:48.080 of you uh to chair five uh enjoy the shit out of your honeymoon you have to make a promise to meet 0.92

06:23:53.820 you andrew you're not going to spend it on any bills you're just going to go i promise i'll i'll

06:23:58.660 send you guys photos on x thank you so much all right sugar daddy andrew wonderful evening yeah 0.67

06:24:04.720 thank you awesome thank you andrew appreciate it you're fucking awesome man allowed to do a kind 0.99

06:24:10.740 deed for people otherwise you're going to make it overtly sexual because you're a prostitute 0.99

06:24:15.920 have a wonderful night everybody i appreciate it good night andrew 1.00

06:24:19.900 thank you for you're an incel good night what he's married are you fucking a prostitute 1.00

06:24:26.100 right he how can andrew be an incel he's married yeah only for him and his wife both oh wait andrew 0.99

06:24:33.080 one one quick request rachel cameo no thank you yes okay i don't want to give me a party 0.98

06:24:42.740 you're fucking legends guys w's in the chat for andrew's a fucking legend 0.97

06:24:47.420 all right uh you just hide it in the sources you see where it says discord yeah you just hit that 0.99

06:24:54.820 all right we have we're gonna blast through the rest of the show we've got quite a bit to get

06:24:59.400 through there's chats that we're gonna do yeah or you know what do we do the ai now and then the

06:25:06.280 chat no the chat's been waiting a really really long time so we're gonna do the chats because they

06:25:10.720 are this is they've been waiting way too long so hey are you my caucasian i'm not you're part white

06:25:20.840 right no okay well then are you my ambiguous racial homie group you're our girl you were being

06:25:29.820 rude to me earlier now you're like trying i wasn't being rude lady shut it that's what you said to me 1.00

06:25:35.960 okay you were interrupting you're interrupting all right let's let me get through this guys okay i

06:25:41.140 gotta scroll all the way back to let all these chats come through so one moment here while i get

06:25:47.240 these chats pulled up and we're gonna have who here has a good reading voice

06:25:51.940 okay we'll have you read them if you can see them okay from josh brooks it's it's right here

06:25:59.580 can you read that not a life at conception biology denying is not going to make the truth that woman 1.00

06:26:07.680 can only birth other human lives not true high mitotic highly differentiated cells rapidly dividing

06:26:17.640 is life yo josh thank you for the message man i do really appreciate i want to apologize for some of

06:26:24.220 you some of you guys sent this in quite a while back a couple hours back but we had to batch them

06:26:29.260 all together just because andrew had a limited time and i wanted to uh not get to uh give him as

06:26:35.480 much time as possible read this one if you can andrew has have less alcohol in its mouth 0.94

06:26:40.300 than you've had dick in your mouth chair two i highly doubt that can i have you tilt your mic down 0.93

06:26:49.760 if you can tilt it down can i have you tilt your mic down i highly doubt that we got this one from 0.99

06:26:54.460 creamy seagull i and i wanted to ask if you could help me find an orthodox church near me that can guide

06:27:01.340 me through the process i picked up rachel's book and very much am looking forward to getting into

06:27:06.920 it cheers brian creamy i apologize that uh andrew did have to leave here so i apologize that he didn't

06:27:12.120 get to respond to this but uh i'm sure if you dm him and you say that you had sent in a super chat

06:27:17.980 while he was live with us he will uh i imagine he'll give you the answer privately you can probably 0.55

06:27:24.080 also reach out to rachel for that thank you creamy uh that sounds weird fucking saying that but 0.93

06:27:28.200 i said that before andrew said it conception begins at the erection and yes then no one 0.95

06:27:35.900 believes you are the smartest one at the table chair two i never said i was the smartest one

06:27:40.200 erection i just probably am the most awake person here she's the most awake woman at the table there 1.00

06:27:46.380 you go thank you just gerald appreciate it chair three giving major lot lizard vibes but once the lot

06:27:52.800 lost interest she has to move to only granny what only granny what is a lot lizard can what is a lot

06:28:00.880 lizard i don't know what that is you know what it is truck drivers like yeah exactly man and hell

06:28:06.480 no right oh sorry they travel man and truck drivers go to like different lots yes there's ladies that 1.00

06:28:14.140 you know provide services okay i've never done that in my whole uh we have mike davis not the burger king

06:28:21.180 different mike davis chair one by far 10 i make one million a year been all over the world so trust

06:28:28.580 me i have seen a lot she's intelligent beautiful talented humble optimistic a must-have and very rare

06:28:34.760 you're perfect don't change was he like joking no he's been donating the whole time no i think he's 0.96

06:28:41.920 actually trying to thank you hit me up oh shit she is single newly single right i think you 0.99

06:28:48.820 the guy you were dating wait you're saying there's a team we weren't dating but yeah you're seeing him 0.99

06:28:55.460 he uh yeah we have mike davis again uh-oh chair one coming from a million dollar man you are an

06:29:02.780 absolute angel you're intelligent and very rare i would let you stay home and do you you would be

06:29:08.200 always be my number one you deserve anything and everything do you oh my god i think these are 0.98

06:29:13.220 jokes no it's not no it's not bitch you should actually i'm waiting for like the next drain his 1.00

06:29:18.240 bank account hold on mike davis send in a champagne pop as a simp tax you say you're a millionaire you 0.99

06:29:25.740 know what hold on send it to me no no no no no zip it zip it she's not going to be a sugar baby 0.99

06:29:35.180 like you that's called pay pig status so well that's even worse uh even better you don't have 0.98

06:29:40.200 to do shit we need a bottle of crystal pops it's one ethereum my wallet is in the description mike 0.98

06:29:46.120 davis you got to pay the simp tax uh we'll do a cheers to you and uh yeah so shout out though 0.97

06:29:53.160 that's the simp tax one ethereum for a bottle of crystal we have clay in here if you can read this

06:29:59.460 one i have i drank enough i have decided i can only i can fix chair two totally do everything for

06:30:05.800 her house car food only stipulation she has to change her body count to less than 50. nope it's 468 0.91

06:30:13.840 every year

06:30:16.740 sorry sorry what uh one more time my body count is 468

06:30:23.960 multiply it by three and that's the real number

06:30:28.400 that's congrats thank you thank you very much i'm not like stop it

06:30:33.980 i'm just being honest you want you want good faith brian i've been good faith no i believe you

06:30:38.880 i've been like actually like i've been sincere this whole time three marriages i can't believe three 0.99

06:30:44.320 dudes were that stupid but fake it tits it makes sense um four filters from a blind man still 1.00

06:30:53.160 wouldn't touch you 1.00

06:30:54.620 lane three marriages

06:30:57.640 yes oh is it you or it must be me must be you

06:31:02.680 right wait did i did we do this one how much to kick this ring pop 0.99

06:31:07.600 mental i think so did we know you want me baby

06:31:11.760 it's not nice it's always the guys that say

06:31:14.160 clean clean uh

06:31:16.260 clean can i set you up with uh et here

06:31:21.020 what's your is your name erica what's your actual name

06:31:23.600 my government is erica but everyone calls me et

06:31:25.720 okay because

06:31:27.420 extraterrestrial

06:31:29.340 yeah but i don't think it's directed at her then

06:31:31.820 what okay i don't think it was directed

06:31:34.480 now we have to get through the super chats

06:31:36.680 that one was directed at me

06:31:38.200 are you sure

06:31:39.180 yeah

06:31:39.780 don't look at me

06:31:42.300 oh uh you know what why don't we have uh jazz can i have you read these

06:31:46.100 yeah

06:31:46.780 as a medical professional i have some questions about the abortion argument for these smart women 1.00

06:31:53.640 one clump of cells name one thing that has cells other than living organisms

06:31:58.260 two conception and dna new dna of a baby isn't mom only a host and baby not part of body

06:32:04.240 anybody want to bite on that or quick response i guess emotional damage

06:32:11.380 uh thank you emotional damage i don't think anybody wants to bite on the abortion debate i do

06:32:17.860 appreciate it really quick guys the medical professional guys read is 100 tts is 200

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06:34:21.720 slash whatever uh youtube takes a 30 cut so they're taking 30 of this so if you want more of your

06:34:27.040 patronage to go towards the show streamlabs.com slash whatever uh he's clearly not rich if he's

06:34:31.920 donating a hundred dollars are you calling patrick a broke i'm calling you a brokey okay you would

06:34:37.180 have donated the 900 he's being very generous oh i don't think i appreciate a hundred dollars baby

06:34:42.360 you should donate the 9 000 to kick me c1 and c2 any life is better life oh is better than no life 0.99

06:34:48.780 just because you're poor doesn't give you the right to murder your arguments are absolutely disgusting 0.99

06:34:52.840 and may god have mercy on your souls your testimony will certainly fall short when comes 0.99

06:34:56.980 your day of judgment yo patrick hey don't be nice to patrick he's the homie uh thank you 0.95

06:35:02.980 patrick slide into my dms and argue me them oh my god this girl is something else uh go ahead and 0.91

06:35:09.020 read this one from lucas please oh god he's your biggest fan i can't claim to know if you're here

06:35:13.080 for comic relief if so i guess you succeeded my wife is convulsing in delirious laughter every time 1.00

06:35:19.660 you open your mouth and all she wanted was to chill out and watch the podcast not the sharpest tool in the 1.00

06:35:23.740 shed are you the only time she convulses she doesn't get off on your dick okay that's it 1.00

06:35:30.360 you don't want to shoot shots back yeah you want to respond it's a compliment to call me funny i mean i 0.99

06:35:35.260 i think i'm funny okay thank you lucas appreciate it uh we'll read this from rachel if you can

06:35:40.700 me yeah if you can read this one ten dollars broke the solution is if the woman keeps her mouth 1.00

06:35:48.200 shut and doesn't fight there won't be fights if you submit like you're supposed to there's pretty

06:35:52.240 much no fighting raise your hand here at the table if you agree with rachel wilson um she's got 0.99

06:35:57.380 veneers a little bit what does that have to okay it means that she acts like she's not like to like 0.99

06:36:04.100 she doesn't care about that shit but like you clearly care about looks if you went and got veneers and 1.00

06:36:08.300 like she like posts pictures like menopausal sea hag please chill out you know nothing andrew is right 1.00

06:36:14.380 there are a shit ton of studies that confirm andrew's claim a recent prominent study is by the 0.67

06:36:18.860 brookings institutions economist melissa kearney called the two-parent privilege do

06:36:24.000 your homework yo lucas thank you for the super chat appreciate it if you can read this one thank

06:36:28.880 you lucas w's in the chat for lucas man thank you chair one guys avoid this kind of women no substance 1.00

06:36:35.560 just repeating nonsense chair two absolute filth doing the only thing she's capable of classifying 1.00

06:36:42.540 women like this one as germs chair three we can feel the hot flash through this hold on you couldn't 1.00

06:36:47.660 even afford to touch my asshole is that a thing you offer i'm a virgin in my asshole okay i'm saving 1.00

06:36:56.460 it for my second marriage if i do get married wait you've been married i've never been married but if 1.00

06:37:00.640 i do get married i'd save it for my second marriage she's got plans she's already thinking ahead yeah

06:37:06.940 yeah she's she she looks to the future um i gotta call you out emotional damage i gotta call you out 0.97

06:37:13.360 emotional damage the first sentence here now you've either fucked up this and you meant these 0.98

06:37:19.500 kind of women this or you meant to say this kind of woman w-o-m-a-n emotional damage you have to pay 1.00

06:37:28.040 the fucking up the woman women woman woman thing you gotta pay the tax on that it's common mistake you 1.00

06:37:35.000 messed it up you messed it up emotional damage uh if you can read this one from rachel please i'm so 0.98

06:37:40.420 tired of the mess that women didn't have a choice other than to be homemakers prior to feminism this 0.99

06:37:44.840 is historically false anyone who says this is not educated on the subject don't you have three baby

06:37:48.880 daddies oh is this andrew's wife yeah i didn't know that this whole time she has multiple baby daddies 0.99

06:37:54.620 and she's out here trying to preach the oh my god like this girl be fucking for real wait you're 1.00

06:38:00.540 calling her out on that how fucking yeah hold on you're wait she tries like go off on women and it's 1.00

06:38:07.660 like girl you've had multiple baby daddies and you don't even have all right all right all right 0.99

06:38:12.080 all right go ahead talk about life on easy mode chick can literally set a guy on fire and the media 0.99

06:38:18.380 will use a photo of her smiling laughing cheesing i doubt that i'm wrong but i can't imagine any media

06:38:23.880 outlet using a photo of a guy smiling if he admitted to setting a chick on fire it's facts who's he

06:38:30.500 talking about christopher thank you for your super chat man you're a legend the guy on murder is he on a train

06:38:35.500 are you on a train there is that a train or a bus where are you going dude on the train where's he

06:38:41.380 going where where's christopher going all right thank you christopher kaiser saws thank you for the

06:38:46.120 super chat the media has shown a serial killer smiling from his bathroom selfie that would be

06:38:51.920 brian koburger who was documented taking a selfie of him smiling after um washing them well he's not

06:38:59.120 convicted yeah right i will just the alleged the alleged murder i i'll just say that if they are

06:39:04.460 smiling they're gonna show it you're they're usually not smiling you bought the same knife with the same

06:39:09.720 sheath i'm just saying that if if if there's a photo of them smiling male or female there it is

06:39:17.220 you know uh do you want to read this one jazz um what's with the chick suking on that you wish it was

06:39:24.700 your little peen just a ring pop all right they do uh we got this one from rachel if you can read

06:39:35.360 this one chair one stop lying neither andrew nor brian ever said that the only thing women are good 1.00

06:39:40.180 for is having babies which yeah we discussed they both say women can do plenty of other things but 1.00

06:39:44.100 should prioritize having babies which i disagree with which i disagree with very rude that shouldn't

06:39:48.560 be the priority she literally has podcasts where she's literally but i but i definitely see you

06:39:52.520 guys's point did he as they're told yeah prioritizing having babies bring me back i'll argue that woman 0.99

06:39:58.940 i'm not sure what happened to the audio coastal the for some reason like towards the end of the show the

06:40:04.260 audio uh from the speakers just gets scuffed i don't know why i'll have to look into it um there's a

06:40:10.420 few more super chats before i do them though okay i always get i don't know if it

06:40:15.860 i want to ask a question about 0.97

06:40:21.980 should i should i ask the question no okay i'll fuck i'll just ask the next time i'll come back 0.99

06:40:33.880 brian actually you know what fuck it hold on maybe a different show i'll do it okay uh if you can read 0.99

06:40:37.960 this jazz i always say stupid shit it's funny how every time andrew or brian asked for a specific 0.99

06:40:43.720 example of their supposed misogyny the response is well meh feelings perception from your tone when 1.00

06:40:48.460 you talk to the women's the women's is misogynistic 0.99

06:40:51.880 one shot yeah again i came unprepared this was kind of like what the what the you got i was told

06:40:59.220 well i wasn't prepared i wasn't told that my receipts would be brought up and we'd be debating

06:41:03.340 i thought this was a dating show because anyway i was just under false pretenses all right we'll have

06:41:08.360 you back then how's that sound round two yeah all right she's she will come back uh if you can read

06:41:14.240 this one please thank you chair two you never got pregged because of chronic vd ain't no venereal

06:41:20.680 disease ain't no rich men gonna sleep surprisingly looking drunk like you you're just jealous of real

06:41:27.820 women these are just you're just jealous of the real woman sitting in chair five you can never be 1.00

06:41:34.500 her no matter how much clorox you clorox yep she's a lysol girl first of all yeah i think so

06:41:41.160 yeah totally thank you motion i use i use condoms i have custom condoms nope nope don't don't don't do 0.99

06:41:47.700 it why won't you let me fucking chair one you live in an echo chamber your worldview has been 0.98

06:41:52.740 categorically rejected i get that it's traumatic but do you recall election night what worldview are 0.99

06:41:58.080 men gravitating towards slash voting for your ideology is an outlier and on the cusp of the dustbin of

06:42:03.520 history thank you lucas well lucas raises an interesting point because you said that

06:42:07.280 in our conversations you said you don't want to like legitimize these worldviews but i mean

06:42:12.940 these worldviews have been legitimized almost literally through the election of donald trump

06:42:19.680 sure i don't personally i don't i mean it's we don't have a true democracy there are many um

06:42:25.360 obstacles in the way of certain demographics of people that don't allow them to vote yes we have

06:42:30.220 equal opportunity to but we don't have equal access to opportunity to vote so a certain demographic of

06:42:35.520 people tend to vote more and show up to the polls more there are is much research done on this and

06:42:41.440 um if everyone were to vote they've done polls on this as well uh the election wouldn't have been as

06:42:48.580 uh skewed towards that kind of ideology or specifically donald trump sure uh okay we got

06:42:55.600 this one from maga rambe thank you for that two hundred dollar soup chat thank you so much man if

06:43:00.980 you want to read this one in 30 years chair one and two will be chair three chair sorry chair five

06:43:08.340 will be watching her grandkids learn how to walk at their country home who is happier

06:43:12.320 i'm in my one of my sugar daddy's will so i doubt that oh sorry are you in a sugar daddy's will

06:43:17.880 oh you're probably not you need a i know you're not a natural beauty but i think with the right

06:43:26.400 clothes the right look you could be very striking the white wit and the right mouth does you well

06:43:32.900 she was the mouth that got away yep okay thank you maga rambe appreciate it thank you thank you

06:43:41.260 uh intel if you pop a champagne can you give uh you know what if you have multiple sugar

06:43:47.760 dice tonight girl congrats to you you're a sugar baby i love it welcome intel do you have ethereum

06:43:53.720 intel do you have ethereum pop a bottle of crystal and i'll give 500 of it to her wow we have a new

06:44:00.680 initiative in the sugar baby club everybody that is generous 500 of your 10k come on matt it's not uh

06:44:08.380 it's not 10 000 that's not the eth price but um if i can have you read this one from lucas

06:44:14.240 yes chair five you are a wonderful young lady hands down the most beautiful on the entire panel and

06:44:19.680 undoubtedly your husband is a handsome virtuous man you both have bright future pay no heed to this

06:44:24.840 insignificant bottom feeder i agree i think you're beautiful but i also think you're groomed which is

06:44:30.900 a different do you want to respond to that savannah thank you lucas that's really sweet thank you lucas

06:44:35.580 appreciate it thank you thank you man we got cat big 200 super chat appreciate it thank you cat

06:44:41.500 chat doesn't claim mike davis do better bud oh man cat and she outbid him like she gave so much more

06:44:47.880 money by the way cat thank you again for those gifted 50 memberships from earlier really appreciate

06:44:52.280 it uh and then we have this one from hey you you can read this one jazz chair two rachel has multiple

06:44:58.380 children who love her and appreciate their mom chair five has a loving husband and will build a loving

06:45:03.200 family with him you had a man who saw you for who you are and doesn't love you anymore how does it 0.97

06:45:08.520 feel to have so little love in your life he loves me bitch uh hey you thank you for the soup chat i 0.99

06:45:15.200 really appreciate it doesn't love me uh oh read this one read that wait oh my god besties i love you guys 0.96

06:45:24.140 those are my best friends wait brian i'm gonna have him come on yeah have him come on do you know

06:45:27.900 hate a rachel oh you don't no it's kind of i love you guys shout out to the blackout girls

06:45:33.620 where are the blackout girls yes uh ring pop and betty white uh thank you for your super chat

06:45:40.760 yes uh yeah okay guys if you want to get a chat in 200 tts 200 oh let's do the ai we're going to do

06:45:52.320 the ai this is one of our favorite segments so we've aged advanced all of you a lot of you said

06:45:58.520 you're going to be better looking in 10 20 30 40 50 years so we've ai aged all of you it's going to

06:46:04.420 give me sun damage that i'm not dear mary if you could so kindly pull up it's probably the nicest

06:46:10.120 i've ever been to you by the way

06:46:11.440 can we do brian too there's no way you don't have brian we did brian he uses an old photo i've 0.98

06:46:22.180 watched the pond she's an og watcher she knows i i watch she watches the shit i'm chronically online 0.94

06:46:28.540 why don't you send in super chats what the fuck i gave you i give you all if you want money i'll give 0.99

06:46:33.320 it to you bro we got pizza for her she was like yo can can we get anyways whatever uh pull it up 0.99

06:46:38.140 do you want me to be your sugar mama brian i will i know you don't like when you don't like to buy

06:46:42.380 dates also when was that taken that's crazy i'm not trying to date you but i'm not trying to date

06:46:48.020 you but i'll take you out my god there's no way that's crazy like 70 40 in the middle stop oh okay

06:46:55.900 i'm so scared right now 70 in the last one i won't make it that long please don't this is gonna be

06:47:02.480 you you become whiter somehow like that i don't whiter i don't like this i'm so scared i guess i

06:47:08.180 don't know no you don't this is horrifying it won't happen you know man you can't say no you don't 1.00

06:47:13.820 where are you looking no you don't man i'm already i'm already fucking 52 man you can't do this 1.00

06:47:20.680 you can't do this to me man i have really bad body dysmorphia i can't see you can't man like i 1.00

06:47:27.260 right you can't do this no well you have to see it now wait it's gonna fuck no tap over tap over 1.00

06:47:32.380 tap over i'm so scared go over yeah wait make you gotta make these bigger that's so no you're cool 0.99

06:47:38.140 you're cool you're fucking cool man now see me let me see me man let me see me random come on brian 0.88

06:47:45.980 wait mary are they are they gonna need the size adjusted on all mary okay yeah can we know i want 0.97

06:47:52.140 to go just are they good i should just i should just are they good fucking uber a while ago this is 0.98

06:47:58.380 crazy wait mary are they good anywhere okay i'll give you one sec to fix those guys like the video 0.90

06:48:04.380 let's go out oh boy wait question did you um you know like how there's in high school there's like

06:48:12.440 alternative schools no i never did that were you suspended when you when you get oh were you

06:48:18.920 like ever suspended or a few times were you a troublemaker in high school it was only because

06:48:23.840 i so i had a um i don't you can't say the word on the podcast but i accused him of being of the

06:48:28.880 thing that goes for children and he ended up being right and he went to jail for it i was right

06:48:34.500 okay all right are they ready to go mary all right here we'll we'll leave it though on this one

06:48:39.780 there's another look that's crazy can we go on okay next person all right next person tab over

06:48:44.620 it gives me actual anxiety oh wait is there a different i don't like that oh my god girl

06:48:51.020 it's not accurate you look good you look good hell no all right i'm scared all right

06:48:57.020 selvia what is he nope look at that pretty oh my god 1.00

06:49:00.860 you look crazy

06:49:02.820 i'm gonna drive home i'm gonna drive home now the chat is seeing this yeah they're seeing this yeah 0.96

06:49:20.080 i'm dead listen if i ever come here and drive home i'm done you look good actually i am done

06:49:26.540 i'm gonna drive home it's not awful you look good did you do i'm driving though mary you'll be

06:49:31.480 we'll get there yeah she'll be fine yeah man all right next you look good girl you look good too

06:49:37.920 everybody else looks good i'm going home i you know to be fair i actually want to pay you a compliment

06:49:46.020 you're 45 you look younger than 45 i agree she looks amazing yeah you look really good

06:49:51.700 uh next

06:49:54.880 carla what do you think you and i know the middle looks good the last one looks crazy

06:50:03.200 no one looks that bad to me the middle looks really good besides my own should we play music

06:50:08.040 all right next music now whoa

06:50:11.220 what the reaction what the you're sweet

06:50:16.260 oh you look crazy that's actually exactly how you're gonna look wait you said wait didn't you

06:50:22.760 say you were gonna be better looking at 60 yeah i think that like that's not right right there

06:50:27.800 she's gonna look better but aging is beautiful i believe that with the right skin care and also

06:50:33.440 yeah and also like um i wasn't really thinking about just the face i was thinking about the body

06:50:38.900 itself the body is gonna be better at 60 yes because you want kids yes i do she's a fitness

06:50:44.920 instructor after kids and at 60 it's possible even even if you didn't have kids it goes back

06:50:52.000 she does fitness and she eats i'm sorry there's no there's no 60 year old that's like out competing

06:50:58.240 well body at like i tried it i think like when you're 50 to 60 you can still look really good

06:51:07.940 i have a fitness friend i don't remember her name but she looks ancient people are tight me

06:51:14.520 no not you all right uh here you know what i'll i'll even make the argument i was better looking when i

06:51:20.660 was younger mary you gotta pull up mary pull up ryan how old are you again uh 36 what year

06:51:28.160 i'm not gonna say my i don't pull up my there's in the tabs there's a photo of me

06:51:35.840 young brian or something it's like do you know what i'm talking about oh you're at 89 0.91

06:51:43.160 what a lot of shit man i'm 52 man do you have it go ahead you just i don't know here it's like 0.96

06:51:54.700 one of the earlier tabs earlier tabs it's like do you have it you need to go for a little walk in 0.99

06:51:59.300 the sun i'm wearing a blue shirt you're gonna see it just tab through tab through you look that good

06:52:04.720 you look that good we have to see this young brian i'm not saying that was good i was better

06:52:11.060 looking i'm i was we don't that one's better looking 10 years ago oh who is that that's you

06:52:17.860 that's me is that how old are you oh i was like 22 21 really right and you're still in your prime 0.97

06:52:25.100 right you've been 30 you look like the ultimate fuck boy thanks jazz yes and then hold on pull up 0.98

06:52:30.200 my instagram pull up my instagram yeah wait do you have a golden retriever brian yes brian i did 0.99

06:52:37.620 or i did i did big brian uh this is scroll to the very bottom oh my god scroll to the very bottom

06:52:43.660 uh scroll keep scrolling keep scrolling keep scrolling keep scrolling look at young brian 0.99

06:52:49.040 what happened uh let's see here scroll down yeah i know right scroll down it's giving like a fuck 0.98

06:52:59.040 boy okay scroll up a little bit all right this is that's like 18 with the 18 19 with the green 0.96

06:53:05.640 wetsuit scroll up uh 18 19 the wetsuits that's me with the donkey that's me as a kid uh that's me

06:53:14.880 when i started my youtube channel scroll up uh wait scroll down scroll down that's that's me some

06:53:20.640 kid thought i was a famous soccer player so you know young brian scroll up that's me oh click on

06:53:27.480 the the girls are gonna love this one uh click on the angel one oh my look at that yeah click on that 1.00

06:53:34.740 one oh god that's young brian 2001 getting catcalled here all right x out of that and then uh scroll

06:53:42.660 scroll up a little bit uh pot or scroll down scroll down young brian still young brian oh

06:53:48.760 oh scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up scroll up all right anyways whatever uh that you get the

06:53:57.640 idea i was better looking when i was younger usually guys usually guys look better when they get older

06:54:04.820 i agree i think i think you can get back to that i think well i think i'll defy i'll defy that yes

06:54:11.440 normative too okay um oh we were doing the rest of the oh we got to do the age thing go back to the

06:54:18.120 ai thing let's see the rest that's all of them no there's more oh god don't ever do this again

06:54:27.920 oh we do it all the time she's so pretty and it made her look so haggard oh my god 1.00

06:54:32.220 don't ever do that yeah right yeah everyone looks terrible good word by the way no haggard

06:54:39.740 haggard good word it's true i know next that word is offended wait where's me

06:54:44.380 oh okay next oh my god see he looks better wow

06:54:48.000 nice you know look i'm gonna lose a bit of weight so it's gonna be good

06:54:55.980 i it won't be that bad trust me just salt

06:54:59.540 next oh now here's what we're doing here's the next segment here's the next segment

06:55:05.520 right just salt next segment

06:55:08.380 would you date the male version of you we've ai we've put you guys through the most advanced

06:55:15.660 ai it's off the same picture this is so annoying oh my god

06:55:20.080 that's crazy

06:55:21.000 just so

06:55:22.580 okay i'm so curious what yours looks like

06:55:26.880 hold on let me see oh my wait mike davis i missed the stream labs hold on mike davis one

06:55:32.260 sec what

06:55:32.780 oh boy okay well he paid the sim tax

06:55:37.160 this is a long stream right

06:55:42.180 all right pop champagne i'll pop a i'll pop share one

06:55:46.560 does anybody want champagne i bet you wake up

06:55:49.720 i feel you i want a champagne

06:55:51.780 can you give me the final thought

06:55:53.560 champagne

06:55:54.560 mike pick me up

06:55:56.100 yes champagne yes champagne

06:55:57.940 sorry no

06:55:58.680 champagne

06:55:59.180 extreme pain

06:56:02.140 champagne

06:56:03.480 yeah no

06:56:04.400 wait where did you find her like on tiktok

06:56:07.700 she only she dm'd i think that the whatever tiktok 0.98

06:56:13.240 me do you tiktok

06:56:13.820 yeah i have a tiktok page

06:56:15.600 you should you'd be popping

06:56:17.040 you should get more into like the streaming like kick

06:56:19.680 bro what

06:56:21.440 oh i'm coming back on the show

06:56:22.680 oh sorry

06:56:23.360 i'm a silent manager over here

06:56:25.940 you know what we yeah we're actually she's gonna become part of the

06:56:28.940 the lore

06:56:30.240 the whatever lore

06:56:31.620 she's gonna become part of the team

06:56:32.860 i love her

06:56:33.080 i agree

06:56:33.580 she's the reason why i watch

06:56:35.980 wait what happened to maddie

06:56:37.180 whatever

06:56:38.500 you

06:56:39.120 you

06:56:39.780 or no she's the reason why i watch whatever

06:56:42.120 yeah you

06:56:43.020 because i i watch her

06:56:45.320 and like watch what she's gonna do 0.87

06:56:47.580 yes

06:56:48.000 what's good

06:56:48.380 you

06:56:48.640 you

06:56:49.640 yeah the reason why i watch whatever

06:56:51.600 her

06:56:52.240 her

06:56:53.120 yeah she's my little

06:56:55.260 my little

06:56:55.900 yes

06:56:56.480 i love 0.72

06:56:58.400 do the lesbian crush on her 1.00

06:57:00.500 no 0.82

06:57:00.820 yes i do but maybe

06:57:02.580 we got a lesbian crush over here 1.00

06:57:05.140 i love her

06:57:05.680 all right

06:57:07.180 but see she's my

06:57:08.500 yeah she's my

06:57:09.860 you didn't say what happened to maddie brian

06:57:11.420 oh uh

06:57:12.460 i love her

06:57:14.040 i love her so much

06:57:14.760 she's no longer with us

06:57:16.260 okay

06:57:16.740 say less i feel you

06:57:18.160 i love her so much

06:57:19.220 i don't want to

06:57:21.260 also why don't you like go down to la

06:57:23.240 like why are you in santa barbara

06:57:24.340 can you reach it

06:57:26.340 there you go

06:57:27.460 why are you in santa barbara

06:57:29.500 why don't you go to la

06:57:29.940 because i've been doing content for over a decade

06:57:32.660 okay

06:57:33.120 and la is the most 0.70

06:57:34.660 degenerate city 0.87

06:57:36.540 degenerate city

06:57:38.460 and i like to stay grounded

06:57:40.740 oh

06:57:41.400 and i do that by staying

06:57:43.100 in santa

06:57:44.100 small

06:57:44.740 small santa barbara

06:57:46.240 it's uh

06:57:47.980 it's a quiet town

06:57:49.320 not too big

06:57:50.840 it's beautiful

06:57:51.540 safe

06:57:52.380 good weather

06:57:53.120 la

06:57:54.360 you get caught up

06:57:55.720 a lot of people go there 1.00

06:57:56.600 they get caught up in a bunch of shit 1.00

06:57:57.960 to be fair 0.99

06:57:59.000 even if i did go to la 1.00

06:58:00.680 i wouldn't get caught up in all that shit 0.99

06:58:02.420 i think you would 1.00

06:58:03.120 you'd be popping as fuck 0.99

06:58:04.240 i'm not a drinker 1.00

06:58:05.340 i don't do drugs

06:58:06.080 you don't need to be a drinker

06:58:07.160 i do drugs

06:58:07.840 uh let's do it

06:58:08.760 uh cheers

06:58:09.400 cheers

06:58:10.060 to mike davis

06:58:10.800 salute

06:58:11.260 cheers to mike davis

06:58:12.940 cannabis

06:58:13.420 yes

06:58:14.300 oh

06:58:15.000 what

06:58:16.440 sorry

06:58:17.640 oh you're funny

06:58:18.280 okay

06:58:20.440 i grab

06:58:22.300 i grab

06:58:23.460 so tell us about

06:58:24.560 i grab

06:58:25.160 you saw 1.00

06:58:25.700 you must have seen some shit in guam 1.00

06:58:27.700 did you see the shit 1.00

06:58:29.740 you saw some shit in guam 1.00

06:58:31.040 huh 1.00

06:58:31.300 well that was like

06:58:32.600 vietnam

06:58:32.980 maybe like

06:58:33.840 like 25 years ago 0.99

06:58:35.880 yeah you were in the shit though 1.00

06:58:37.220 yes 0.99

06:58:37.620 and actually

06:58:39.840 there was some little guy

06:58:41.560 that came out of the jungle

06:58:43.540 and he was like

06:58:44.820 oh my god

06:58:46.100 the

06:58:46.400 the war ended

06:58:47.640 and we're like

06:58:48.980 yeah the war ended

06:58:50.260 the war ended a long time ago

06:58:52.400 no literally

06:58:53.600 no i've heard this little guy

06:58:55.020 seriously man

06:58:57.260 and he was like

06:58:58.460 yeah

06:58:59.080 and 0.99

06:58:59.840 yeah the fucking war ended 0.99

06:59:02.840 a long time ago man 1.00

06:59:04.540 a long time ago

06:59:06.640 and

06:59:07.500 in

06:59:08.020 in guam man

06:59:09.620 there was a war

06:59:10.220 yeah that little tiny

06:59:11.580 little

06:59:12.320 yeah

06:59:13.260 so this was like

06:59:15.420 you ever been

06:59:16.080 you ever been to bosnia son

06:59:17.700 this was 1.00

06:59:18.080 you ever been in the shit 0.99

06:59:19.260 no 1.00

06:59:20.560 this was in

06:59:21.380 you ever been to bosnia

06:59:22.640 man bosnia 1.00

06:59:23.740 you been in the shit 1.00

06:59:24.620 no 1.00

06:59:25.160 okay cool

06:59:26.100 no

06:59:26.460 but this was in 93

06:59:28.040 when i was over in

06:59:30.100 in guam

06:59:30.780 and this little old man

06:59:33.340 yeah

06:59:34.280 this little old man

06:59:35.700 he he was a

06:59:37.020 little japanese guy

06:59:38.300 and he was like

06:59:39.520 the war's over

06:59:40.940 yes

06:59:41.720 man

06:59:42.260 the war's over

06:59:43.300 i'm telling you

06:59:45.760 i'm telling you

06:59:47.880 that's

06:59:48.560 that

06:59:49.060 i was there

06:59:50.140 and that's what he said

06:59:51.720 man

06:59:52.160 would you rather

06:59:53.640 say brian or three

06:59:54.400 young brian 1.00

06:59:55.740 and fuck 1.00

06:59:56.480 you know 1.00

06:59:57.020 i like to smoke

06:59:58.140 honestly

06:59:58.580 and this little guy

06:59:59.980 this little japanese guy

07:00:01.760 he was like

07:00:02.620 oh my god

07:00:03.520 i thought the war

07:00:04.600 i thought the war

07:00:05.820 was going

07:00:06.420 i thought the war

07:00:07.420 was going

07:00:07.900 i've been manifesting

07:00:08.280 our friendship

07:00:08.620 we are meant to be friends

07:00:09.900 but it's like

07:00:10.580 the dynamic would be

07:00:11.540 i friend zone you

07:00:12.660 no there's no sexual energy

07:00:15.060 i like actually feel

07:00:16.180 a genuine friendship

07:00:16.860 there is definitely no

07:00:17.880 no i know

07:00:18.600 yeah whoa

07:00:19.220 that's crazy

07:00:20.140 no like

07:00:20.720 i just

07:00:21.320 like low-key

07:00:22.620 i know i put off

07:00:23.280 that i'm like a sexual person

07:00:24.180 i'm very asexual

07:00:25.480 that that's

07:00:26.860 that's great

07:00:27.500 um

07:00:28.080 but i like you as a friend

07:00:29.680 we're friends

07:00:30.340 yeah yeah

07:00:30.560 besties

07:00:31.120 brian's my bestie

07:00:32.660 ditto

07:00:33.040 it's reciprocated

07:00:34.740 oh my god really 0.98

07:00:35.840 damn 0.99

07:00:37.000 you know my 1.00

07:00:37.680 you know adam 22

07:00:38.540 you're a guy in the war

07:00:41.660 oh i know

07:00:42.880 i watched it

07:00:43.640 whatever

07:00:44.060 i think this girl

07:00:46.280 like is a fan

07:00:47.280 of the show

07:00:47.680 oh i know everything

07:00:48.300 on the internet

07:00:48.740 i'm chronically online

07:00:49.940 i know everything

07:00:50.540 about everyone

07:00:51.100 that's good

07:00:51.820 uh oh the ai thing

07:00:53.620 yeah we didn't even do

07:00:54.600 okay

07:00:54.860 ai guys if you want

07:00:56.520 200 tts get it in

07:00:57.880 if you'd like

07:00:58.480 get it in

07:00:59.040 we and then we're

07:01:00.060 gonna get into

07:01:00.620 some more juicy

07:01:01.400 debate conversation

07:01:02.680 by the way uh

07:01:03.920 if you're watching

07:01:04.760 from the crucible

07:01:05.400 i think andrew sent over

07:01:06.620 a raid

07:01:07.480 andrew thank you so much

07:01:08.340 man appreciate it

07:01:09.040 thank you thank you

07:01:10.120 guys we're gonna get

07:01:10.920 into some juicy

07:01:11.700 we got some more juicy

07:01:13.080 stuff to get through

07:01:13.780 but we're doing like

07:01:14.500 a little fun segment

07:01:15.300 here

07:01:15.540 i don't want to know

07:01:16.900 don't worry about it

07:01:17.720 it's all it's all good

07:01:18.820 um wait selby do you

07:01:20.860 want to go

07:01:21.280 no we need to do

07:01:22.920 your stuff chill out

07:01:23.900 relax

07:01:24.320 bro we gotta drive

07:01:25.260 back to oc 1.00

07:01:26.000 the oc bitch 1.00

07:01:27.940 i'll i'll go 1.00

07:01:29.640 when it's time

07:01:30.600 wait do you do you

07:01:31.540 want i can't drive

07:01:32.400 a dy but like 1.00

07:01:33.480 i would

07:01:33.960 all right let's do

07:01:36.260 this segment

07:01:37.060 we're gonna do

07:01:38.000 the segment

07:01:38.460 are you gonna drive

07:01:39.360 stop

07:01:40.520 wait are you

07:01:41.280 i actually

07:01:41.900 do you want me

07:01:42.540 i can

07:01:42.820 should we get

07:01:43.520 a hotel

07:01:43.840 it's okay erica

07:01:45.080 should we get

07:01:45.480 a hotel

07:01:46.000 get a hotel

07:01:46.620 where what are

07:01:47.440 the best hotels

07:01:48.180 here

07:01:48.440 go to

07:01:49.240 the ritz

07:01:49.740 the ritz

07:01:51.560 have you been

07:01:52.480 the ritz carlton

07:01:53.740 have you been

07:01:54.180 yeah i've been there

07:01:55.120 the in the east beach

07:01:56.460 back when there were

07:01:56.660 fires

07:01:57.100 uh when there were

07:01:59.240 fires

07:01:59.480 should we

07:01:59.860 like i don't know

07:02:00.960 what to do

07:02:01.360 figure it out

07:02:01.860 okay

07:02:02.180 apparently

07:02:03.820 mary

07:02:04.440 are you sure

07:02:05.360 mary about that

07:02:06.020 don't

07:02:06.600 we'll figure it

07:02:07.760 out

07:02:07.940 oh wow mary's

07:02:08.820 very nice

07:02:09.240 in the east beach

07:02:10.300 mary's okay

07:02:11.140 we'll talk after

07:02:11.920 the show hold on

07:02:12.400 let's do the

07:02:13.260 segment guys

07:02:13.980 would you date

07:02:15.580 the male version

07:02:16.460 of you

07:02:17.040 right that's

07:02:18.140 that's what

07:02:18.760 we're gonna do

07:02:19.420 oh

07:02:22.420 bring it back

07:02:24.560 up

07:02:25.180 you're fine 1.00

07:02:26.020 shit 0.99

07:02:26.380 okay 1.00

07:02:27.080 in a heartbeat

07:02:28.380 they did me well

07:02:29.440 there

07:02:29.820 so you would

07:02:31.240 he looks better

07:02:32.860 than me

07:02:33.420 oh wow

07:02:34.000 okay

07:02:34.360 where's mine

07:02:35.600 sorry

07:02:35.940 where's mine

07:02:36.400 i'm punching

07:02:37.560 he would be

07:02:38.260 settling 0.86

07:02:38.620 i'd be punching

07:02:39.360 and that's fine

07:02:40.400 i only said

07:02:42.280 you're eight

07:02:42.660 because you yap

07:02:43.380 a lot but you

07:02:43.960 actually like

07:02:44.620 looks or ten

07:02:45.440 no you just

07:02:46.180 like you say

07:02:46.580 a lot of

07:02:46.880 like word

07:02:47.540 sound but

07:02:48.040 like you're

07:02:48.420 you don't know

07:02:48.700 how pretty

07:02:49.180 you are

07:02:49.520 yeah

07:02:49.880 she doesn't

07:02:50.340 know how

07:02:50.680 pretty

07:02:50.860 yeah like

07:02:51.460 i don't think

07:02:51.920 you really

07:02:52.240 notice how

07:02:52.740 you're actually

07:02:53.560 gorgeous

07:02:54.020 yeah

07:02:54.620 thank you

07:02:55.580 yeah no you

07:02:56.100 really are

07:02:57.400 do it

07:02:58.160 no yeah

07:03:01.420 you are prettier

07:03:02.160 than me

07:03:02.520 you might be

07:03:06.160 the hottest girl

07:03:06.840 that brian's

07:03:07.320 had on his

07:03:07.740 show

07:03:08.060 where's mine

07:03:09.140 man

07:03:09.600 well i mean

07:03:10.720 that's

07:03:11.120 it's true

07:03:11.640 possibly

07:03:12.160 where's mine

07:03:12.520 she's natural 1.00

07:03:13.180 as fuck 1.00

07:03:13.680 she has no 1.00

07:03:14.180 elastic

07:03:14.540 she's beautiful

07:03:15.620 you drink

07:03:16.640 she does have

07:03:17.280 lip filler

07:03:17.740 no i don't

07:03:18.620 i don't remember

07:03:20.220 this girl's 0.94

07:03:21.220 natural

07:03:21.660 i can tell

07:03:22.220 you had lip

07:03:22.720 filler

07:03:23.020 no she hasn't

07:03:24.460 four years ago

07:03:25.400 oh you did

07:03:25.920 it doesn't count

07:03:29.300 though

07:03:29.640 it's not

07:03:30.060 over like

07:03:30.960 emphasize

07:03:31.500 all right

07:03:32.640 um let's do

07:03:33.560 so okay you

07:03:34.280 would date your

07:03:34.840 male

07:03:35.140 the fact that

07:03:35.860 you know that

07:03:36.240 is crazy by the

07:03:37.260 way how far

07:03:37.880 down how far

07:03:39.100 down

07:03:39.600 it was i sorted

07:03:40.340 through popular

07:03:40.980 i sorted through

07:03:42.240 popular

07:03:42.580 okay next

07:03:45.200 it didn't look

07:03:46.560 good

07:03:46.740 that's crazy

07:03:47.560 wait you dated

07:03:54.080 that guy

07:03:54.560 that's eduardo

07:03:56.700 i am dead

07:03:58.040 that's crazy 1.00

07:04:00.140 i would hit you 0.98

07:04:00.940 not that 1.00

07:04:01.440 bitch what the fuck 1.00

07:04:02.300 are you doing 1.00

07:04:02.980 why are you

07:04:03.780 coughing at me

07:04:04.640 no

07:04:05.300 don't cough

07:04:08.120 on me

07:04:08.400 that's crazy

07:04:09.220 please don't do

07:04:10.180 she's got to

07:04:12.600 cover her 0.96

07:04:13.020 mouth 0.75

07:04:13.220 that's crazy 0.63

07:04:14.620 don't do that 1.00

07:04:15.380 shit 1.00

07:04:15.660 oh my god 1.00

07:04:19.460 erica's funny

07:04:20.740 erica's good

07:04:21.660 people

07:04:22.000 i'm just waiting

07:04:22.360 for that

07:04:22.780 brian i thought

07:04:23.680 you're gonna

07:04:23.960 hate me

07:04:24.520 no i'm not

07:04:25.800 coughing on

07:04:26.200 look there's a

07:04:26.720 moment it's a

07:04:27.240 love-hate

07:04:27.600 it's a love-hate

07:04:28.600 relationship

07:04:28.880 you're like 1.00

07:04:29.220 lady shut up 1.00

07:04:30.180 earlier i'm 0.91

07:04:30.720 like it's a

07:04:31.440 love-hate

07:04:31.800 relationship

07:04:32.120 honestly i'm

07:04:32.780 so sorry for

07:04:33.300 me rude to

07:04:33.800 you earlier

07:04:34.240 like i

07:04:35.340 genuinely no i

07:04:36.040 really am

07:04:36.540 like now that

07:04:37.020 we're like

07:04:37.320 now that

07:04:38.400 andrew's got

07:04:38.980 i'm like okay

07:04:39.460 i'm actually so

07:04:40.200 sorry for being

07:04:40.700 rude to you

07:04:41.120 i did not mean

07:04:41.640 that you did

07:04:42.200 that just because

07:04:42.720 andrew was here

07:04:43.360 he gives me the

07:04:44.100 i told you before

07:04:44.840 the show started

07:04:45.340 why are you

07:04:46.960 taking that

07:04:47.300 on savannah

07:04:47.900 andrew okay

07:04:48.940 to be fair

07:04:50.000 i did start

07:04:50.940 before andrew

07:04:51.420 got here so

07:04:51.860 you're right

07:04:52.240 you're right

07:04:52.720 but i am i

07:04:53.640 did mean what i

07:04:54.300 said but i am

07:04:54.960 sorry for being

07:04:55.420 rude to you

07:04:55.920 will you give

07:04:56.500 me my sorry

07:04:57.160 i meant what i

07:04:57.540 said but i'm

07:04:58.380 sorry for being

07:04:59.160 rude i'm sorry

07:05:00.060 for delivering it

07:05:00.820 in a rude way

07:05:01.620 yes go ahead

07:05:02.420 yes

07:05:02.780 i think you're a

07:05:05.200 beautiful person

07:05:05.920 will you give

07:05:06.560 my sorry picture

07:05:07.580 hit me up in

07:05:09.080 10 years and

07:05:09.660 let me know

07:05:09.960 what's going

07:05:10.260 on in your

07:05:10.480 life and

07:05:10.920 then we'll

07:05:11.300 talk i'll

07:05:11.760 have five

07:05:12.200 kids and

07:05:12.920 okay yeah

07:05:13.760 yeah yeah

07:05:14.100 yeah okay

07:05:14.540 yeah we'll

07:05:15.100 see okay

07:05:16.360 okay

07:05:16.800 okay

07:05:16.820 i'm so sorry

07:05:20.880 yeah savannah 0.98

07:05:21.800 bitch i'm so 1.00

07:05:22.400 sorry girl 1.00

07:05:23.420 that edward is

07:05:25.360 not the vibe

07:05:26.020 i love you

07:05:26.860 is it

07:05:27.300 would you

07:05:27.680 would you

07:05:28.020 date that

07:05:28.400 guy no

07:05:28.960 i would not

07:05:29.640 that he's

07:05:30.100 crazy 0.99

07:05:30.520 that looks 0.98

07:05:31.720 like someone

07:05:32.020 that stalked

07:05:32.700 me

07:05:33.060 i went

07:05:34.920 on a date

07:05:35.280 with a fan

07:05:35.780 once and

07:05:36.480 he looks

07:05:36.980 like it

07:05:37.440 wow that

07:05:39.420 was crazy

07:05:40.840 yeah he

07:05:41.900 looks like

07:05:42.480 yeah eduardo

07:05:43.520 yo whoever

07:05:45.300 uh is it

07:05:46.520 eduardo if

07:05:47.060 you're watching 1.00

07:05:47.600 you're fucking 1.00

07:05:48.300 weird 1.00

07:05:48.900 all right

07:05:49.860 i'm done 1.00

07:05:51.840 bye bitch 1.00

07:05:52.640 all right 1.00

07:05:53.440 next person

07:05:53.980 yeah yeah

07:05:55.120 right 1.00

07:05:55.420 oh shit 1.00

07:05:56.660 wait 1.00

07:05:56.960 wait

07:05:57.560 wait

07:05:58.720 wait

07:06:00.520 wait

07:06:01.040 wait

07:06:01.280 wait

07:06:01.720 wait

07:06:01.800 wait

07:06:02.440 wait

07:06:02.800 wait

07:06:03.440 wait

07:06:04.440 wait

07:06:04.480 wow

07:06:05.440 no she's

07:06:06.560 they did

07:06:07.140 she's like

07:06:07.800 it's jojo

07:06:08.820 siwa's boyfriend

07:06:09.580 right now

07:06:10.180 yo it's cute

07:06:11.520 it's a vibe

07:06:12.220 i'm like a

07:06:12.600 backstreet boy

07:06:13.520 that's cute

07:06:15.800 or something 0.99

07:06:16.620 i fuck with 1.00

07:06:17.440 like a goddamn 1.00

07:06:18.120 backstreet boy 1.00

07:06:18.900 man

07:06:19.220 wait

07:06:20.160 wait

07:06:20.440 wait

07:06:21.660 wait

07:06:21.860 backstreet boy

07:06:22.920 please give me

07:06:23.620 a big beer

07:06:24.080 just a big

07:06:25.420 beard with tattoos

07:06:26.080 beard tattoos

07:06:28.080 oh that's

07:06:28.780 actually good

07:06:29.820 man

07:06:30.460 but

07:06:30.960 you're cute

07:06:31.740 you're like a

07:06:32.520 wait this is

07:06:33.340 hold on

07:06:33.800 that's like

07:06:34.200 you're like a

07:06:34.980 mid-twenties

07:06:35.840 swedish guy

07:06:36.680 yeah

07:06:37.380 how did i do that

07:06:41.000 how did i do that

07:06:43.640 man

07:06:43.960 i don't know

07:06:44.560 it's crazy

07:06:44.920 technology

07:06:45.800 next

07:06:46.220 i don't know 1.00

07:06:49.400 i fuck 1.00

07:06:49.920 you look like a 1.00

07:06:51.060 fuckboy 1.00

07:06:51.500 selby 0.98

07:06:52.440 that looks like

07:06:53.380 into the mic

07:06:53.760 you look like the 1.00

07:06:54.340 hb fuckboys 1.00

07:06:55.220 into the mic 1.00

07:06:56.260 until

07:06:56.520 yeah i might hit

07:06:58.120 that

07:06:58.500 there you go

07:06:59.420 all right 1.00

07:06:59.740 i'd fuck me 1.00

07:07:01.500 okay 1.00

07:07:03.240 all right

07:07:04.740 next

07:07:05.820 wait

07:07:07.360 oh

07:07:07.980 yeah you're cute

07:07:08.780 nice looking

07:07:09.760 wait what

07:07:11.560 oh

07:07:12.440 okay

07:07:13.560 okay

07:07:13.840 i guess we skipped

07:07:15.500 this is

07:07:15.920 yeah wait what

07:07:16.520 is this ai

07:07:17.080 this is you

07:07:17.780 okay this is you

07:07:18.860 hold on

07:07:19.380 we'll do it

07:07:20.240 wait what

07:07:21.740 are you

07:07:22.240 she's cuter

07:07:23.020 as a girl

07:07:23.360 we'll find

07:07:23.640 sure

07:07:23.820 would you date

07:07:25.420 the male version

07:07:25.900 of you

07:07:26.200 into the mic

07:07:27.380 i don't even know

07:07:27.920 if i date myself

07:07:28.840 so

07:07:29.220 oh sorry

07:07:30.320 probably not

07:07:32.820 okay

07:07:33.380 you're hotter 0.95

07:07:34.040 as a woman

07:07:34.640 maybe if

07:07:35.540 i think he looks

07:07:36.140 good

07:07:36.320 then maybe

07:07:38.660 next

07:07:39.120 oh my god

07:07:42.780 you skipped

07:07:45.120 five

07:07:45.820 we'll have to

07:07:46.600 come back to it

07:07:47.240 would you date

07:07:48.020 the male version

07:07:48.520 of you

07:07:48.800 if you were

07:07:49.260 single of course

07:07:49.920 oh my god

07:07:50.580 that is so funny

07:07:51.660 she's like

07:07:53.600 that's my brother

07:07:54.260 that's my brother

07:07:56.480 okay

07:07:57.600 you're both cute

07:07:58.660 honestly

07:07:59.180 i love that

07:07:59.920 i actually love that

07:08:01.080 i love that picture

07:08:02.120 these gender swaps

07:08:03.200 have been pretty charitable

07:08:04.220 i love that

07:08:05.220 extremely

07:08:05.620 i love that

07:08:06.560 i love that picture

07:08:08.060 i actually love that

07:08:09.080 if he has a really

07:08:09.560 good personality

07:08:10.620 then yes

07:08:11.300 yes

07:08:12.260 i love it

07:08:13.120 it's like

07:08:13.540 it could go

07:08:14.120 either way

07:08:14.740 right

07:08:14.920 yeah

07:08:15.260 you love it

07:08:15.900 i love it

07:08:16.800 she's cute 0.98

07:08:17.760 thank you 0.97

07:08:18.420 i fucking love 0.92

07:08:19.060 that picture 0.99

07:08:19.560 i can't wait

07:08:19.800 to see brian

07:08:20.460 okay here we go

07:08:22.860 chair seven

07:08:23.600 what is that

07:08:24.080 sorry sorry

07:08:25.780 i noticed

07:08:26.200 it's all good

07:08:26.640 um

07:08:27.220 oops

07:08:28.480 next

07:08:29.080 oh

07:08:31.080 looks don't

07:08:34.040 matter for me

07:08:34.660 so i would

07:08:35.460 honestly give

07:08:36.140 anyone a chance

07:08:37.100 oh

07:08:37.660 i kind of like

07:08:38.560 the last one

07:08:39.240 though

07:08:39.540 you're cute

07:08:40.100 both ways

07:08:41.000 yeah

07:08:41.680 last one is fire

07:08:42.820 i actually love it

07:08:43.900 anyone a chance

07:08:44.700 it doesn't matter

07:08:45.380 like how they look

07:08:46.260 or how much money

07:08:47.160 they have

07:08:47.700 i love it

07:08:48.200 i actually

07:08:48.820 i love that

07:08:49.740 picture

07:08:49.960 it's cool

07:08:50.340 let's see

07:08:50.520 i like that

07:08:51.260 next

07:08:52.720 yikes

07:08:54.680 oh my god

07:08:55.780 really

07:08:56.440 dude she's cute 1.00

07:08:58.820 okay

07:08:59.420 like low key

07:09:00.640 it was crazy 0.99

07:09:01.920 she's fucking hot 1.00

07:09:02.680 as hell 0.99

07:09:03.100 oh my god

07:09:03.880 wait no no no

07:09:04.600 go back go back

07:09:05.180 come on brian

07:09:05.820 okay okay

07:09:06.860 would you date her

07:09:07.820 i don't like the

07:09:09.640 hometown girl from

07:09:10.740 kansas

07:09:11.200 like she just moved

07:09:12.480 here from college

07:09:13.740 i don't like the

07:09:14.420 short hair but

07:09:15.100 long hair sure

07:09:15.860 i would

07:09:16.140 no like she had

07:09:17.120 two partners

07:09:18.560 and you know

07:09:20.480 yeah

07:09:21.180 you're sweet

07:09:22.000 right there

07:09:22.440 bro honestly

07:09:23.040 that girl looks 0.99

07:09:23.760 like she looks

07:09:25.380 sweet but she 0.99

07:09:26.680 ain't like she 0.99

07:09:27.740 not in a freaky

07:09:29.200 way but she's 1.00

07:09:30.040 crazy

07:09:30.480 she's in sigma

07:09:31.160 sigma sigma

07:09:31.800 like she's 0.64

07:09:32.800 she's that chick 1.00

07:09:33.780 she got crazy 0.99

07:09:35.000 she's got bpd 0.87

07:09:36.420 no she's not

07:09:37.240 no she's not

07:09:38.020 that's what you

07:09:38.760 want

07:09:39.180 that's what you

07:09:40.140 want

07:09:40.500 that's loki

07:09:41.500 you

07:09:41.880 yeah if you can

07:09:44.160 check for savannah's

07:09:45.240 all right that was

07:09:45.840 the mary mary

07:09:47.160 where's mary's

07:09:48.120 uh maga thank you

07:09:51.100 for your super chat

07:09:51.980 guys appreciate

07:09:52.720 appreciate it

07:09:53.220 guys if you want

07:09:53.680 to get a message

07:09:54.080 in read is 100

07:09:55.020 tts is 200

07:09:56.380 now we're going to

07:09:57.680 blast through some

07:09:59.240 of our notes here

07:10:00.220 because there's i'm

07:10:01.100 going to try to do

07:10:01.600 it quick because

07:10:02.520 reasons okay

07:10:04.620 let's see oh we

07:10:07.760 got tiktoks too 1.00

07:10:08.780 shit tiktoks 1.00

07:10:09.920 wait what time is 1.00

07:10:10.980 it right

07:10:11.360 it's late isn't

07:10:13.940 it we're gonna

07:10:14.540 wait a minute

07:10:15.020 we don't have to

07:10:16.220 do tiktoks

07:10:16.980 just have us

07:10:17.600 back

07:10:18.040 oh yeah hold on

07:10:20.620 hold on let me do

07:10:21.640 the notes then we'll

07:10:22.420 do the tiktoks

07:10:23.120 uh tiktoks

07:10:25.980 who's mary

07:10:27.220 oh mary i'm so

07:10:28.920 sorry girl oh my

07:10:29.840 god you're not

07:10:30.940 you're not invisible

07:10:31.760 shelby

07:10:32.420 selby

07:10:33.240 selby

07:10:33.980 uh you said

07:10:36.180 that uh is it

07:10:37.880 realistic to want a

07:10:38.700 modern traditional

07:10:39.340 relationship meaning

07:10:40.280 gender roles from 0.83

07:10:40.900 the 60s yet not

07:10:42.420 stiff or set in

07:10:43.100 stone we talked

07:10:44.980 about that kind of

07:10:45.840 the traditional

07:10:46.400 general stuff

07:10:47.100 i'm like up for

07:10:48.040 the old school 1.00

07:10:49.000 shit you know 1.00

07:10:50.920 right like 0.99

07:10:51.600 jasmine who's

07:10:52.800 jasmine whatever

07:10:53.480 like me oh no

07:10:55.020 there's a different

07:10:55.680 jasmine but she was 0.86

07:10:56.720 a no-show

07:10:57.260 avery that's also

07:10:59.320 oh that okay

07:11:00.380 how do you say

07:11:01.380 your name at

07:11:01.720 nausicaa

07:11:02.320 yeah okay

07:11:03.880 uh you said you

07:11:05.260 have no dating

07:11:05.960 experience you're

07:11:06.920 literally fresh

07:11:07.960 well you've been in

07:11:09.260 a relationship for a

07:11:10.220 year you said

07:11:10.740 yeah but it was like

07:11:11.620 an online so i don't

07:11:12.680 really know if that

07:11:13.440 counts

07:11:13.920 wait have you guys

07:11:14.640 met in person

07:11:15.320 yes it does

07:11:16.820 and you're still with

07:11:17.500 them

07:11:17.720 wait no wait the

07:11:18.820 one i'm with right

07:11:19.600 now currently

07:11:20.220 yeah oh you've

07:11:21.740 the previous one i

07:11:22.760 had no

07:11:23.480 do you guys live in

07:11:25.420 the same city

07:11:26.480 yes

07:11:27.180 i'm 19

07:11:30.040 sorry

07:11:30.960 the one i'm with

07:11:33.240 right now we live

07:11:34.000 in the same city

07:11:34.760 have you been like

07:11:35.800 intimate at all

07:11:36.640 yeah

07:11:36.900 okay

07:11:37.480 okay

07:11:38.720 it's a relationship

07:11:39.500 it is rock and

07:11:41.020 roll

07:11:41.160 and then you said

07:11:42.800 even though you're

07:11:43.320 19 you're a mix of

07:11:44.420 traditional values and

07:11:45.560 new what does that

07:11:46.580 mean

07:11:46.900 um i think i'm like

07:11:49.020 honestly before

07:11:50.680 because i grew up in

07:11:51.860 san francisco so

07:11:53.400 there was lots of

07:11:54.500 people that were

07:11:55.680 telling me yeah

07:11:57.420 like telling me like

07:11:58.700 certain stuff like

07:11:59.520 that but also i have

07:12:00.940 i like explore the

07:12:03.240 other side of you

07:12:04.920 know like things that

07:12:05.940 i didn't find normal

07:12:07.700 so um yeah like i

07:12:11.240 value traditional

07:12:12.260 values like you know

07:12:13.320 the man providing and

07:12:15.280 i would love to be a

07:12:16.260 housewife i would

07:12:16.880 love to stay with my

07:12:18.100 man i would love to

07:12:19.440 have lots of children

07:12:20.200 with him yeah stuff

07:12:21.960 like that

07:12:22.800 good for you

07:12:24.960 when you say when

07:12:26.160 you say you're a mix

07:12:27.100 of traditional values

07:12:28.200 and new so what are

07:12:29.120 the you kind of laid

07:12:30.200 out the traditional

07:12:30.820 values what are the

07:12:31.600 new ones

07:12:32.080 yeah so like i guess

07:12:34.020 the new ones um it

07:12:35.980 also goes into um

07:12:37.920 talking about like

07:12:38.760 abortion and stuff

07:12:39.620 like that

07:12:40.140 when i first heard

07:12:41.500 about it um i was

07:12:43.280 pro life because

07:12:46.220 like to me when

07:12:47.760 you when there's a

07:12:49.020 baby in you there's

07:12:49.900 a baby there's no

07:12:50.820 like life is at

07:12:52.740 conception like what

07:12:53.660 we talked about

07:12:54.360 um but actually i

07:12:58.000 don't remember i don't

07:12:59.680 remember like what

07:13:00.720 new values i have

07:13:03.200 right now i can't

07:13:04.440 think of anything at

07:13:05.160 the top of my head

07:13:05.640 pro-choice now

07:13:06.440 no no no i'm still

07:13:07.960 pro-life but like i

07:13:09.240 was pro-choice when

07:13:10.440 we talked

07:13:10.980 oh you used to be

07:13:11.940 pro-choice

07:13:12.560 no i the first thought

07:13:14.700 i had was pro-life

07:13:16.200 and then when people

07:13:17.160 talked about um grape

07:13:19.040 that happened to a

07:13:20.540 certain woman i was

07:13:21.400 like okay that makes

07:13:22.620 sense and then i

07:13:23.880 talked to um some of

07:13:25.740 my friends about it

07:13:26.460 and they were like

07:13:27.240 yeah but that's such a

07:13:28.740 small percentage and

07:13:29.800 even though because of

07:13:30.880 that happened like you

07:13:32.660 can make something

07:13:33.980 better of it so i

07:13:35.740 went to like the

07:13:36.360 charlie kirk event and

07:13:37.740 i also saw like um

07:13:39.120 there was a woman who 1.00

07:13:40.840 had a bad experience

07:13:41.780 with her father but

07:13:43.300 you know she had a 0.71

07:13:44.480 beautiful child and

07:13:46.180 everything is good

07:13:47.040 now so i don't i

07:13:48.460 would never like

07:13:49.340 jeopardize any life

07:13:50.780 like i would have

07:13:52.760 life over anything and

07:13:54.320 i think i think like

07:13:56.000 what we were talking

07:13:56.580 about earlier about

07:13:57.480 the possibility of the

07:13:58.700 child not um growing

07:14:00.760 up in a good household

07:14:02.000 or whatever or if

07:14:02.960 you don't have

07:14:03.380 enough materials to

07:14:04.940 provide for them we

07:14:06.300 said there's adoption

07:14:07.460 we said we can't base

07:14:09.460 um we can't like

07:14:10.680 jeopardize the life

07:14:11.540 because of

07:14:12.080 probability and stuff

07:14:13.960 like that which i agree

07:14:15.080 with what are the new

07:14:17.440 values though you said

07:14:18.820 you're a mix of

07:14:19.280 traditional values and

07:14:20.120 new i think you it

07:14:21.120 sounds like you've

07:14:21.620 just listed a few of

07:14:22.840 the traditional ones

07:14:23.580 though what are the

07:14:24.000 new ones um i can't

07:14:27.260 think of any right now

07:14:28.220 on the spot so maybe

07:14:30.660 it's just traditional

07:14:31.340 uh erica perry erica

07:14:34.360 you were on american

07:14:35.760 idol you refused to

07:14:36.780 sing for us very

07:14:37.460 disappointing can we

07:14:38.960 see her american idol

07:14:39.860 clip uh they'll

07:14:40.940 probably like copyrighted

07:14:42.140 or something uh let's

07:14:44.220 see just sing i can't

07:14:48.020 i literally have

07:14:48.600 anxiety i that's the

07:14:49.600 only time i've ever

07:14:50.160 performed publicly

07:14:51.220 that was the first time

07:14:52.740 i ever katie perry

07:14:53.680 did you make it to

07:14:54.300 hollywood yeah i got

07:14:55.280 the golden ticket no

07:14:56.220 way no but it was

07:14:57.800 it was actually one of

07:14:59.680 the words let's do

07:15:00.160 this um we're gonna do

07:15:02.060 some tiktok reacts we

07:15:03.360 have tiktoks from you

07:15:04.240 from you from you we're 0.99

07:15:05.920 gonna try to blast you 0.99

07:15:06.680 them quick savannah you 0.94

07:15:08.360 describe yourself as

07:15:09.680 feminine hold on hold 1.00

07:15:11.480 on hold on sorry you

07:15:12.720 describe yourself as

07:15:13.740 feminism's worst i gave 1.00

07:15:16.840 it to you earlier oh 1.00

07:15:18.340 okay shut up oh boy 1.00

07:15:20.040 okay feminism's worst 1.00

07:15:22.100 nightmare uh how so

07:15:25.680 uh i would say

07:15:27.860 everything that

07:15:28.740 feminism stands for i 1.00

07:15:29.820 disagree with and my

07:15:31.920 social media tends to

07:15:33.220 make feminists upset 1.00

07:15:35.140 based on what i promote

07:15:36.400 you said you'd love to

07:15:38.580 talk about how modern

07:15:39.540 feminism has destroyed 1.00

07:15:40.640 the dating mindset in

07:15:41.700 marriage uh you want

07:15:44.300 to i guess elaborate on

07:15:45.500 that a bit or i would

07:15:47.000 say as far as the way

07:15:48.200 it's affected dating is

07:15:49.460 nobody i i'm not gonna

07:15:51.240 say nobody but most

07:15:52.140 people don't date with

07:15:53.500 marriage in mind anymore

07:15:54.520 i think that dating

07:15:56.100 apps have taken that

07:15:57.000 over social media has

07:15:58.520 taken that over and

07:15:59.740 they don't go into

07:16:00.340 relationships with the

07:16:01.300 mindset of like okay

07:16:02.180 this could be my

07:16:02.940 husband um so what are

07:16:04.640 the things i need to do

07:16:05.720 to to prepare for

07:16:06.980 marriage or to prove to

07:16:08.200 him that i am wife

07:16:09.600 material so i would say

07:16:11.500 that that's the main

07:16:12.840 the main thing okay

07:16:14.460 what are your top 10

07:16:16.080 like rapid fire them top

07:16:17.320 10 hot takes anti-feminist

07:16:19.600 hot takes sure yeah um

07:16:21.680 okay well number one i

07:16:22.660 would say that the

07:16:23.240 patriarchy actually 0.50

07:16:24.300 values and protects

07:16:25.360 women i believe that 1.00

07:16:27.400 no fault divorce should

07:16:28.540 be illegal i believe

07:16:30.420 that abortion is not 0.81

07:16:31.840 health care it's murder

07:16:32.760 in all circumstances i

07:16:34.860 believe that husbands

07:16:37.180 are the head of the

07:16:37.820 household and wives are 1.00

07:16:39.140 supposed to submit to

07:16:40.060 their husbands i believe

07:16:41.660 also that submission is

07:16:43.220 is a beautiful thing

07:16:44.220 it's not slavery it

07:16:45.240 actually gives you

07:16:46.200 freedom in your

07:16:46.900 relationship i also

07:16:48.680 think that all waves of

07:16:50.440 feminism were bad like 1.00

07:16:51.940 first wave second wave

07:16:52.980 all the other ones that

07:16:54.380 came along with it i

07:16:55.660 believe there are two

07:16:56.300 genders male and

07:16:57.720 female there's no other 1.00

07:16:58.660 genders uh how many was 0.52

07:17:00.640 that i think five five

07:17:03.480 or so that's like eight

07:17:04.400 i think it was like eight

07:17:05.820 also i mean also i would

07:17:07.280 say only fans and any sort

07:17:09.000 of sex work corn is not

07:17:10.980 empowering it's

07:17:11.860 prostitution okay i think

07:17:13.860 that was about 10 on your 0.96

07:17:14.940 instagram i saw you have

07:17:15.740 something called

07:17:16.240 submissive society what's 0.52

07:17:17.780 that that's my uh

07:17:19.560 subscription community

07:17:20.460 that's launching wednesday

07:17:21.780 and what is it though

07:17:23.220 so it's gonna be an

07:17:24.480 exclusive community for

07:17:25.600 women um they can be 1.00

07:17:26.800 unmarried or married or

07:17:27.940 just like looking to

07:17:29.000 kind of live in the same

07:17:30.440 lifestyle but i just

07:17:31.880 talk about biblical

07:17:32.620 submission and how

07:17:33.840 modern feminism has 1.00

07:17:35.360 told us that submission

07:17:36.300 is slavery and that

07:17:37.240 we're not supposed to

07:17:37.960 bow to any man but

07:17:39.000 submission is such a

07:17:40.260 beautiful thing because

07:17:41.160 it's it's the only thing

07:17:42.540 that like shows the

07:17:44.340 world our relationship

07:17:45.340 with christ like christ

07:17:46.420 loved the church so

07:17:47.520 we're supposed to

07:17:48.620 submit to our husbands

07:17:49.440 the way we would

07:17:50.620 submit to christ

07:17:51.360 okay cool and uh

07:17:54.080 one question and

07:17:55.160 you're would you

07:17:56.300 categorize yourself as

07:17:57.300 submissive to your

07:17:57.880 husband yes one

07:17:59.420 question for you uh

07:18:00.840 so you do this you

07:18:02.140 know the social media

07:18:02.880 stuff you produce

07:18:03.700 content online uh if

07:18:06.060 your husband came to

07:18:06.980 you and he said hey

07:18:09.380 i don't want you any

07:18:10.800 longer out there on

07:18:12.980 the internet i want you

07:18:13.900 to private everything i

07:18:14.980 want you to stop making

07:18:15.780 content uh would you do

07:18:17.980 it and drop it in a

07:18:19.200 heartbeat okay all

07:18:22.020 right and uh would

07:18:24.000 there be like a

07:18:24.760 negotiation or a

07:18:25.980 convo about it or

07:18:27.120 would you just be like

07:18:28.060 okay i mean of course

07:18:30.800 he would come to me

07:18:31.400 with a reason um i

07:18:33.280 mean we've had many

07:18:34.480 conversations being

07:18:35.620 like i don't know what

07:18:36.920 that's going to look

07:18:37.380 like when we have kids

07:18:38.180 i don't know if i'll

07:18:38.740 just drop it completely

07:18:39.700 or what that would

07:18:41.320 look like but if he

07:18:42.380 said to me like for

07:18:43.320 the priority of our

07:18:44.920 family i would like

07:18:46.240 you to stop social

07:18:47.120 media for whatever

07:18:47.780 reason i wouldn't

07:18:49.120 argue with it i would

07:18:49.900 just drop it got it

07:18:50.740 uh and then i'm

07:18:52.400 curious uh actually

07:18:54.080 maybe a question for

07:18:55.020 jazz if you're dating

07:18:56.660 a guy no you're

07:18:57.540 married or do you

07:18:58.720 did you say you

07:18:59.380 don't want to get

07:18:59.980 married

07:19:00.260 i'd say it's the

07:19:04.040 love of your life

07:19:04.740 it's not a priority

07:19:05.180 but yeah like i'm not

07:19:07.280 a priority either for

07:19:08.320 me okay so you're on

07:19:10.200 the fence i guess

07:19:11.260 yeah if i do it's all

07:19:13.100 later in life all

07:19:14.600 right if uh you're

07:19:15.960 you were making uh

07:19:17.740 tiktok content and

07:19:18.720 you're dating a guy

07:19:19.460 and he let's say he

07:19:20.640 was like taking care

07:19:21.420 of everything so he's

07:19:22.220 like paying the rent

07:19:23.480 bills whatever you

07:19:24.720 guys are living

07:19:25.120 together he's like i

07:19:26.360 don't want you to

07:19:26.920 make content anymore

07:19:27.840 i want you to private

07:19:29.080 everything would you

07:19:29.960 do it if it was my

07:19:31.680 passion is it your

07:19:33.440 passion if it was my

07:19:35.000 passion no it's not

07:19:36.160 now but like if it was

07:19:37.360 my passion like if

07:19:38.320 he's telling me to put

07:19:39.700 my passion aside then i

07:19:41.480 would say no i would

07:19:42.540 choose my passion

07:19:43.580 what is your passion

07:19:44.300 um i think i'm looking

07:19:46.960 for it but i um i

07:19:49.320 just love learning

07:19:51.100 and uh being involved

07:19:53.980 in academia and not

07:19:55.700 being the smartest in

07:19:56.520 the room i like when

07:19:57.320 there's a bunch of

07:19:57.920 people smarter than me

07:19:58.720 around and they're

07:19:59.680 talking and i'm

07:20:00.320 listening and yeah so

07:20:02.200 i thrived in school

07:20:04.500 and that's why i want

07:20:05.200 to go to a higher level

07:20:06.160 of education because it

07:20:07.100 just stimulates my mind

07:20:09.020 so i think i'm

07:20:09.680 passionate about that

07:20:10.600 let's say this summer

07:20:11.660 you met the love of

07:20:13.260 your life and he was

07:20:14.280 very wealthy he had a

07:20:15.680 high-paying job and he's

07:20:17.720 like look and you have a

07:20:19.420 feeling you have a good

07:20:20.280 feeling like i'm gonna you

07:20:21.940 know it's you're not gonna

07:20:22.740 break up he's loyal uh

07:20:25.320 maybe he's even the perfect

07:20:26.820 guy but one of his i guess

07:20:31.520 uh criteria for or maybe not

07:20:34.460 criteria one of his what

07:20:36.500 what's the term it's evading

07:20:37.780 me uh his ultimatum

07:20:41.440 standard requirement one of

07:20:43.660 his requirements of being

07:20:44.620 with him is that uh you

07:20:47.020 don't go to school

07:20:47.780 yeah um i would leave him

07:20:52.840 and i would continue the

07:20:53.740 perfect guy you'd break up

07:20:54.600 with the perfect guy if he

07:20:55.420 said yes he's perfect

07:20:57.020 treated you well you're like

07:20:59.140 i'm gonna spend the rest of

07:20:59.960 my life with maybe it's easy

07:21:01.080 to say because i haven't come

07:21:02.400 near in contact with my

07:21:04.660 perfect man so maybe

07:21:06.400 what's your perfect man

07:21:07.060 describe him um we agree

07:21:10.360 ideologically um yeah we

07:21:14.160 probably share a similar

07:21:15.460 passion or if not like he

07:21:17.520 can be involved in my

07:21:19.580 passions and pursuits and

07:21:22.200 stuff like that any physical

07:21:24.060 traits do you have like height

07:21:26.600 requirement or preference

07:21:28.140 no i've dated all sorts any

07:21:31.200 racial preferences no

07:21:32.800 any what's the other one

07:21:37.540 uh all sorts really all sorts

07:21:40.840 like short tall muscular not

07:21:44.660 pudgy like is there anything

07:21:46.280 you would compromise on or

07:21:48.620 anything you would or yeah i

07:21:52.620 mean actually compromises the

07:21:53.880 perfect word is there anything

07:21:54.860 you would compromise on for the

07:21:56.180 perfect man

07:21:56.700 i don't think so and i do think

07:22:00.920 that's to my detriment at some

07:22:02.400 points yeah i do put myself

07:22:05.700 above yeah yeah i put myself

07:22:08.140 above like a potential partner

07:22:09.840 because i just that doesn't seem

07:22:12.020 like that's my what if in order

07:22:15.200 to get with the perfect guy once

07:22:19.060 per day you had to do 10 jumping

07:22:22.360 jacks that you otherwise didn't

07:22:24.080 want to do would you do the 10

07:22:25.580 jumping jacks yeah for the perfect

07:22:27.180 man sure but that's not it's not

07:22:29.620 close to a comparison of giving up

07:22:31.920 my passion

07:22:32.520 there's not much i would give up

07:22:35.100 for a man even if he's the perfect 0.88

07:22:36.440 guy but like so your passion is

07:22:38.420 going to school to get an education

07:22:39.940 in furtherance of what eventually

07:22:41.520 having a career one day yes

07:22:43.160 but if he's really wealthy and

07:22:47.300 making a bunch of money it's not

07:22:48.420 about the money

07:22:49.040 what's it about then it's the passion

07:22:51.200 behind it the passion yeah you want

07:22:52.880 to i want to work in you want to be

07:22:54.780 a professor you want to work with

07:22:56.140 high school kids i think i'll probably

07:22:58.100 work in like economic policy or

07:22:59.820 monetary policy okay so you want to

07:23:01.520 work in a cubicle what do you want to

07:23:02.840 do

07:23:03.340 um some office maybe at the start i will

07:23:07.780 have to but then um eventually i kind

07:23:11.340 of just want to be like an economist

07:23:12.940 uh who has theories of well you're

07:23:16.540 going for your master's degree right

07:23:17.920 yeah theories and so it's not facts

07:23:20.960 theories is not bad theories are not

07:23:22.940 facts theories is not facts man yeah 0.99

07:23:25.580 theories is fucking theories man it's 1.00

07:23:28.760 like bullshit and then you tie your own 1.00

07:23:31.720 fucking shit and oh yeah economics 1.00

07:23:34.800 yes no no no no no no no cream i'm 1.00

07:23:40.620 telling you rises to the top you're

07:23:41.880 what 19 i'm 52 i'm the cream of the

07:23:44.920 crop and you're actually experiences

07:23:47.260 experiences yes experiences oh the

07:23:51.920 cream of the crop yes yeah you want to 0.99

07:23:55.180 do your fucking little there's not much 1.00

07:23:57.960 i would give up in pursuit of a man but 1.00

07:24:00.500 i don't frown upon a woman who is 0.99

07:24:02.680 willing to do so and who also believes

07:24:04.880 that it's nothing means nothing yeah i

07:24:07.860 know means nothing i know a woman wants 1.00

07:24:11.920 to get married i need to have babies

07:24:14.120 glasses jones get mad at man and and 0.68

07:24:18.120 you know no you know that's what it is

07:24:21.620 a woman wants to get mad at man rise to 1.00

07:24:24.740 the top you know yeah i know macho

07:24:27.500 madness sorry keep going no good 0.99

07:24:30.380 seriously no keep going every fucking 1.00

07:24:32.460 woman wants to get mad at man for the 1.00

07:24:35.280 let me tell you something right now 0.99

07:24:36.940 fucking pissed off stacked against the 0.99

07:24:38.740 right old man ran to seven 0.99

07:24:40.380 wrestlemania three sorry keep going 1.00

07:24:43.140 seriously right every fucking woman 1.00

07:24:47.400 wants to be fucking pissed off at a man 1.00

07:24:50.160 they really do talking about submission 0.99

07:24:53.300 to men is a good thing and she believes

07:24:55.360 that's her worldview

07:24:56.680 not only the intercontinental and i'm

07:24:59.140 sorry 0.99

07:24:59.620 must fall but my three fucking marriages 0.99

07:25:02.300 and everything else yeah i think i can 0.99

07:25:04.820 say that but hulk hogan yeah i'm the cream 0.99

07:25:07.620 yeah i'm the cream of the crap and 0.99

07:25:10.580 there's no one that does better than me 1.00

07:25:12.460 the macho man and the savage on balance

07:25:16.340 off balance doesn't matter i'm better than

07:25:20.260 you yeah no you ain't i'm talking to

07:25:22.680 everyone in the huh 0.98

07:25:24.260 ain't shit man nothing's gonna stop me 0.97

07:25:29.260 crickets 0.99

07:25:33.920 i've been maligned from the top to the

07:25:37.960 bottom

07:25:38.360 mary play the crickets 1.00

07:25:42.200 you ain't even fuck you ain't even funny 1.00

07:25:44.820 man 0.99

07:25:45.320 i think he's funny

07:25:47.020 right now

07:25:48.360 he can't handle the macho man

07:25:51.840 rinda savage

07:25:52.600 can you be funny

07:25:53.940 you're right i'm not i'm just cringe

07:25:56.560 all right so anyways uh let's see

07:25:59.360 where were we here um

07:26:00.860 last up at all i don't even know what

07:26:02.900 he's talking to jazz we're having a

07:26:05.240 great moment me and jazz we're talking

07:26:06.900 about

07:26:07.160 you're talking about something 1.00

07:26:08.940 you're funny as fuck bitch 1.00

07:26:10.620 mike davis donated 200 you gotta pay 1.00

07:26:15.240 another syntax

07:26:15.940 gorgeous dot chair one don't let

07:26:18.780 anyone tell you diff if it ever was

07:26:21.160 to happen dot you will get used to

07:26:23.020 petty people trying to put you down

07:26:24.940 dot want to know what true beauty 0.75

07:26:26.600 looks like

07:26:27.740 go find a smile yeah mike davis 0.99

07:26:30.420 facts mike davis that's fucking 0.99

07:26:33.080 disgusting 0.99

07:26:33.940 what bro mike davis pay another 0.98

07:26:36.520 syntax that's crazy dude i agree

07:26:38.700 that's crazy come on man

07:26:40.440 um no girl you got a bright future 0.98

07:26:42.560 you meant to be a star

07:26:43.440 uh wait right like diamond oh 1.00

07:26:46.280 shine bright like a star bitch 1.00

07:26:47.760 but i don't understand this whole 0.99

07:26:49.760 like

07:26:50.100 wait okay so you're getting you're

07:26:52.440 going after your master's degree

07:26:53.500 then you're going to start working

07:26:54.540 or what's the plan

07:26:55.520 like in the field that i want a

07:26:58.200 career in yeah

07:26:58.900 so you go get your master's degree

07:27:01.540 what another three years and then

07:27:03.100 you go work

07:27:03.840 i think a master's is a year if you

07:27:06.000 do all three classes

07:27:07.060 like as many as you can do

07:27:09.240 i don't know sometimes i guess it

07:27:10.700 takes people longer

07:27:11.360 yeah i think it's like two years

07:27:12.400 but

07:27:12.580 like two years

07:27:13.460 yeah

07:27:13.660 but and then you're going to go

07:27:16.920 work so that you can make money

07:27:18.480 that's fulfilling for me

07:27:19.960 and then you're going to be yeah

07:27:20.800 but you're going to be submissive to

07:27:21.920 your boss

07:27:22.520 i mean i think everyone's goal down

07:27:25.760 the line is to

07:27:26.740 not work under someone and that's

07:27:29.160 kind of my goal too

07:27:30.000 yeah but you're you're going to be

07:27:32.180 you're going to be a slave in some

07:27:34.860 capacity

07:27:35.420 yeah

07:27:36.320 and you're saying that's how it

07:27:39.620 should be

07:27:40.520 or i just don't understand

07:27:41.840 no what i'm saying is is this idea

07:27:43.560 that like

07:27:44.140 your uh career pursuits or your

07:27:48.020 career success

07:27:49.060 or your career achievements are

07:27:51.340 going to be the ultimate

07:27:52.240 uh satisfaction or source of

07:27:56.380 happiness in life

07:27:57.240 yeah that's what's fulfilling to

07:27:58.480 me even if it means i'm submitting

07:28:00.060 to a boss

07:28:00.820 just the same way it's

07:28:01.840 fulfilling to her even though

07:28:03.480 she's submitting to someone

07:28:04.300 well even if you're self-employed

07:28:05.640 then you're self-employed and

07:28:06.800 that comes with

07:28:07.600 uh a whole bunch of benefits but

07:28:09.900 also

07:28:10.200 a corresponding

07:28:11.220 bunch of

07:28:12.920 annoyances

07:28:14.320 and potential pitfalls

07:28:16.720 if you're going to start your own

07:28:17.960 business there's all kinds of

07:28:19.200 headaches

07:28:19.480 there so i mean

07:28:21.320 i just reject this idea that

07:28:24.180 even for men i kind of reject it

07:28:25.880 but even for women

07:28:26.760 that your career is going to be

07:28:29.580 this sort of ultimate

07:28:30.760 uh

07:28:32.260 source of

07:28:34.260 fulfillment in life

07:28:36.380 i think a lot of women 1.00

07:28:38.920 when they hit 30 40 50

07:28:40.320 fulfillment in life 1.00

07:28:41.320 who the fuck are you 0.99

07:28:43.860 telling anybody 0.99

07:28:45.260 right now like

07:28:46.760 can you tilt your mic down

07:28:48.220 tilt your mic down

07:28:49.080 no i'm i'm just trying to 1.00

07:28:50.680 fucking 0.98

07:28:51.040 can you just tilt your mic down 1.00

07:28:53.040 fulfill

07:28:53.580 no really

07:28:55.240 fulfillment

07:28:57.460 really fulfillment

07:28:59.560 fulfillment

07:29:00.920 really

07:29:01.720 fulfillment

07:29:02.660 well that if that's the point

07:29:04.800 maybe are you

07:29:05.520 are you having like an

07:29:06.720 anti-capitalist take here

07:29:08.380 where you're saying

07:29:09.080 what the hell are you talking

07:29:10.360 about man 0.71

07:29:11.140 fulfillment

07:29:11.900 man

07:29:12.700 i just want to be happy

07:29:14.440 in life 0.99

07:29:15.020 what the fuck you want to be 0.99

07:29:16.600 happy in life 1.00

07:29:17.460 okay

07:29:18.840 some dude

07:29:19.940 what

07:29:21.040 you're having

07:29:22.260 some dude

07:29:23.200 man

07:29:23.720 uh

07:29:26.720 that's all i'm talking about

07:29:30.540 man

07:29:31.440 yeah i know

07:29:36.060 yeah no i

07:29:38.000 i you know i i wanna

07:29:39.640 yeah

07:29:40.060 you know what here play we gotta play the bow video we need the bow video e.t we need erica we need you for the bow video take 0.99

07:29:46.140 we need to just sit

07:29:47.820 oh i know shut me up right 0.98

07:29:50.300 shut me up right shut me up 0.99

07:29:52.620 is that what you're 0.86

07:29:53.560 doing shut me up

07:29:54.860 wait you weren't even talking 0.85

07:29:56.860 shut me up 1.00

07:29:58.000 shut the fuck up 1.00

07:29:59.000 shut up 1.00

07:30:00.260 shut up 1.00

07:30:01.240 shut up 1.00

07:30:03.100 shut up 1.00

07:30:03.600 everybody's telling me to shut up 1.00

07:30:06.560 shut the fuck up 1.00

07:30:07.340 everybody's telling me to shut up 1.00

07:30:08.620 right 0.98

07:30:08.800 no like shut up

07:30:09.640 Everybody? Yeah, I know.

07:30:11.960 No, like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

07:30:13.380 Like, actually. It hurts my ears. 0.99

07:30:15.140 I know. I don't care about ears.

07:30:17.360 Obviously, I know you don't care about everybody's ears.

07:30:18.800 Okay? I'm serious.

07:30:20.480 Oh, really? This one?

07:30:22.640 What are you going to say to me, bitch? 1.00

07:30:23.940 I think everyone's going to say to me. 1.00

07:30:24.360 Yeah, don't.

07:30:24.780 What? Don't start.

07:30:26.000 Like, actually, do you want to, like, actually, no.

07:30:28.400 Oh, see? That's what I'm saying.

07:30:30.840 Shut me up. No, you're not. 0.78

07:30:33.340 Shut up. Like, actually. 1.00

07:30:34.540 No, you're not. Stop. Wait, stop yelling.

07:30:36.820 Stop yelling. Stop, stop, stop.

07:30:38.180 Everyone's either tired or drunk. 1.00

07:30:41.780 Why don't you shut up, man? 1.00

07:30:43.460 You're the one over here. 1.00

07:30:47.640 I like my life on, bitch. 1.00

07:30:48.920 Wait, guys. Stop, stop, stop. 1.00

07:30:51.440 It's my ears. That's it.

07:30:52.860 I can lick the shit all I want, motherfucker. 1.00

07:30:56.220 All right. 1.00

07:30:57.100 What the fuck? 1.00

07:30:58.680 What's going on tonight? 1.00

07:30:59.640 I mean, fuck, man. 1.00

07:31:00.780 No, what are you, like, going on about? 1.00

07:31:03.200 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

07:31:03.960 I shouldn't have done the Macho Man Randy Savage bit. 1.00

07:31:06.940 That's probably what.

07:31:08.520 Like, literally.

07:31:11.280 Like, literally, you're the one over here.

07:31:13.540 I think I'm a vocal person. 1.00

07:31:14.500 Like, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

07:31:15.600 Like, shut the fuck up, bitch. 1.00

07:31:17.720 Shut up. 1.00

07:31:19.240 You shut up. 1.00

07:31:20.500 Guys, chill out. 1.00

07:31:22.500 You're the one fucking everybody's talking about. 1.00

07:31:24.960 Wait, hey. 1.00

07:31:25.320 Shut up. 1.00

07:31:26.280 I hate it. 1.00

07:31:26.840 I hate it. 0.98

07:31:27.680 Wait, stop screaming. 0.78

07:31:29.180 She's going crazy. 1.00

07:31:29.820 Stop screaming.

07:31:30.820 I hate it, Michelle. 1.00

07:31:31.660 This bitch is going crazy. 1.00

07:31:33.220 What the fuck? 1.00

07:31:33.560 Fucking stupid ass, man. 1.00

07:31:35.360 Hey, wait, stop. 1.00

07:31:35.640 Wait, look at me. 1.00

07:31:36.760 Shut up. 1.00

07:31:37.280 Shut up. 1.00

07:31:38.160 Wait. 1.00

07:31:38.880 Shh.

07:31:40.080 Hey, hey, hey, hey.

07:31:41.020 You guys.

07:31:41.480 Wait, look at me.

07:31:42.140 Look at me.

07:31:42.560 Look at me right here.

07:31:43.300 I got you.

07:31:44.540 You're my homie.

07:31:45.400 Yeah, her. 0.54

07:31:45.660 Wait, shh.

07:31:46.180 Wait, wait, wait.

07:31:46.620 Look right here. 1.00

07:31:47.180 Fuck her. 1.00

07:31:47.580 Yeah, fuck me, bitch. 1.00

07:31:48.560 Erica. 1.00

07:31:49.160 Erica, stop. 1.00

07:31:49.640 Fuck me, huh? 1.00

07:31:50.360 Erica. 1.00

07:31:52.640 We're homies, right?

07:31:53.560 You're my homie, right?

07:31:54.700 Yeah, I am.

07:31:55.380 This is Brian's consolation.

07:31:56.640 He has to keep us here.

07:31:57.920 Shh, shh, shh, shh.

07:31:58.820 It's okay, Erica.

07:31:59.420 It's okay.

07:31:59.840 I'm just kidding.

07:32:00.420 I love you.

07:32:00.940 Shh, Erica.

07:32:01.840 I love everybody. 0.86

07:32:03.020 I'm just a psychopath.

07:32:04.400 Erica.

07:32:06.340 I say love you to everybody. 1.00

07:32:08.040 Bitch, I love you. 1.00

07:32:09.080 Zip it. 1.00

07:32:09.900 Okay.

07:32:12.060 That's good.

07:32:12.500 We good?

07:32:13.200 I think we're good.

07:32:13.980 Let's just.

07:32:15.960 I guess.

07:32:17.020 I guess.

07:32:17.820 Is she?

07:32:18.500 She's good.

07:32:19.060 Hey.

07:32:19.200 Is she?

07:32:19.820 Hey.

07:32:21.000 Is she? 1.00

07:32:21.840 Just get the fuck out of my face. 1.00

07:32:23.480 Like, I shit. 1.00

07:32:24.440 No, bitch. 1.00

07:32:25.020 Get the fuck out of my face. 1.00

07:32:26.060 Bro, what the fuck? 1.00

07:32:27.640 Are you going to say? 1.00

07:32:28.300 I mean, really? 1.00

07:32:28.860 Don't fuck me in my face, bitch. 1.00

07:32:31.920 Are you ready? 1.00

07:32:32.900 Uh-uh.

07:32:34.280 What's next to me?

07:32:35.420 I can drop. 1.00

07:32:36.040 I can drop your ass on the fucking screen. 1.00

07:32:38.780 Wait, wait. 1.00

07:32:39.560 I can drop your ass on the fucking screen. 1.00

07:32:40.880 Hey, hey, hey. 1.00

07:32:41.140 Guys, guys, guys.

07:32:42.060 Guys, guys, guys.

07:32:42.300 Guys, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. 1.00

07:32:44.900 Grandma Jones, shut the fuck up. 1.00

07:32:46.860 Erica, Erica, stop antagonizing her. 1.00

07:32:49.160 Stop provoking her.

07:32:50.440 You're right.

07:32:51.100 Just stop.

07:32:51.780 Both of you stop.

07:32:52.500 Let me get. 0.97

07:32:53.220 Do you guys want to get out of here?

07:32:54.560 Yeah.

07:32:54.940 Let me.

07:32:55.160 Yeah, actually.

07:32:56.280 Just let me.

07:32:56.760 So badly.

07:32:57.780 Stop.

07:32:58.160 Just stop.

07:32:58.860 So I can do the show.

07:33:00.060 Okay, bow video, please.

07:33:02.300 All right.

07:33:03.120 This is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend.

07:33:05.540 Is this the bowing?

07:33:06.460 What?

07:33:06.640 This is Sue.

07:33:07.380 This is my ex-girlfriend.

07:33:08.340 This is Sue.

07:33:08.740 This is my ex-girlfriend.

07:33:10.140 Girl, I'm not.

07:33:11.040 Why is she dressing up? 0.99

07:33:11.940 Stop, man. 1.00

07:33:12.060 Don't get any fucking hands. 1.00

07:33:13.100 Stop. 1.00

07:33:13.720 Don't touch me.

07:33:14.820 Like, actually.

07:33:15.340 Don't do that, man.

07:33:16.140 No, I was joking over.

07:33:17.140 Like, don't be like that with me.

07:33:18.440 Don't touch me.

07:33:20.320 That's crazy. 1.00

07:33:21.220 What the fuck? 1.00

07:33:21.540 We're crossing lines touching me. 1.00

07:33:22.560 Holy shit. 1.00

07:33:23.980 Guys, stop. 1.00

07:33:24.580 No, like, she's fucking touching me. 0.99

07:33:26.080 No, she was over in my space. 1.00

07:33:27.820 I was talking to Selby.

07:33:29.100 Yeah, I know.

07:33:29.720 There you go.

07:33:31.140 I was talking about this.

07:33:32.960 There you go. 1.00

07:33:33.520 What the fuck? 1.00

07:33:34.260 Okay, okay. 1.00

07:33:35.060 Stop. 1.00

07:33:35.180 Bitch, what the fuck? 1.00

07:33:36.780 See? 1.00

07:33:37.460 I don't want to do anything.

07:33:38.540 Erica, just walk away for like five minutes.

07:33:40.860 Just walk away for five minutes.

07:33:41.620 I'm aware.

07:33:42.420 Just walk away. 1.00

07:33:43.080 Actually, this bitch is crazy. 1.00

07:33:45.380 Oh. 1.00

07:33:46.120 Yeah, have you touched me?

07:33:47.360 Here, Erica, Erica, just walk away for just five minutes. 0.90

07:33:49.640 Walk away.

07:33:50.100 Walk away.

07:33:50.600 Let it... 1.00

07:33:50.740 You're talking dumbass, bitch. 1.00

07:33:54.320 No, she ain't. 1.00

07:33:55.560 But yeah.

07:33:56.440 I just want to see the bow video, boys.

07:33:59.220 Oh, yeah, yeah.

07:33:59.880 How long ago was this video?

07:34:02.360 I don't know.

07:34:03.320 It's hard to say.

07:34:04.300 It's been so long.

07:34:05.020 It's been a minute.

07:34:09.080 How does she feel about this video?

07:34:10.800 So, reoccurring.

07:34:12.660 Eh, you know, whatever.

07:34:14.040 We're on good terms, I guess.

07:34:18.480 Ryan?

07:34:19.480 Yeah?

07:34:20.320 Are we?

07:34:21.220 Are we what?

07:34:22.220 I don't know.

07:34:23.220 I mean, I've never been here, and I don't know her, and she knows you, man.

07:34:28.040 I don't know anybody here.

07:34:30.880 Well, obviously, she knows you.

07:34:34.000 So, I don't know anybody, and I don't know anybody, man.

07:34:40.800 Yeah.

07:34:41.360 I don't know anybody.

07:34:44.840 Okay.

07:34:46.000 Yeah, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. 1.00

07:34:47.380 The fuck she knows? 1.00

07:34:47.920 Stop. 1.00

07:34:48.360 Just stop.

07:34:48.880 Look.

07:34:49.140 Stop.

07:34:49.540 Let me...

07:34:49.820 Right?

07:34:50.920 Oh, stop?

07:34:51.840 Yeah, just be quiet.

07:34:52.920 It's me?

07:34:54.120 It's me?

07:34:54.740 It's both of you.

07:34:55.020 It's me?

07:34:55.860 No, it's not me.

07:34:56.820 It's both of you.

07:34:58.000 I don't even know her.

07:34:59.240 You're yelling.

07:34:59.640 You're yelling.

07:35:00.140 Stop yelling.

07:35:00.840 She can't.

07:35:01.280 She's intoxicated.

07:35:02.960 I don't know her or her either.

07:35:05.160 Okay.

07:35:05.700 You good? 0.99

07:35:05.740 Yeah, but you're yelling in my fucking ear, and I'm, like, up to it. 0.99

07:35:08.620 So, just calm. 1.00

07:35:09.760 Take a breath.

07:35:10.440 Let's step back and relax.

07:35:12.320 Okay?

07:35:13.960 We're adults.

07:35:15.080 Moving forward.

07:35:16.140 Yeah, I know.

07:35:17.100 But you guys came together.

07:35:18.640 Okay.

07:35:19.020 Question for you, Amy.

07:35:20.300 Question for you.

07:35:21.460 You have one kid, right?

07:35:24.100 Yes.

07:35:24.780 Does she... 0.84

07:35:25.500 How old's your kid again?

07:35:27.080 Fifteen.

07:35:27.960 Does she know that you do OF?

07:35:30.000 Yes.

07:35:30.700 She knows?

07:35:31.580 Yes.

07:35:32.020 What does she think about it?

07:35:33.220 She don't care.

07:35:33.820 Hey, guys, please don't talk back there.

07:35:35.240 Sorry.

07:35:36.640 She doesn't care?

07:35:37.520 No.

07:35:38.920 Question.

07:35:39.420 When your daughter becomes an adult, like 18, 19, 20, and if she were to come to you and

07:35:44.120 say, I'm thinking of starting an OnlyFans, would you tell her not to? 0.57

07:35:49.080 She don't care because she knows my OnlyFans page.

07:35:51.580 See, you guys are all about, you know, assuming about how everything's a page are, you know?

07:36:01.040 And OnlyFans, if you go on OnlyFans, there's a lot of things that go on.

07:36:06.940 But I'm just...

07:36:08.200 That's not what I'm asking.

07:36:08.980 I'm asking if your daughter, once she becomes an adult, if she came to you, she's like, hey,

07:36:14.480 I want to start an OnlyFans.

07:36:15.640 Yes.

07:36:15.940 Would you say totally sweetly that's fine?

07:36:17.520 I will tell her that I do it.

07:36:19.800 But she already knows that you do it.

07:36:21.500 Yes, she does.

07:36:24.400 Okay.

07:36:25.920 You...

07:36:26.360 All right, I'll redo it.

07:36:26.960 Does it bother her?

07:36:28.060 I don't know.

07:36:29.180 She hasn't told me.

07:36:30.300 You said that you had a sugar daddy 30 years your senior for four years.

07:36:34.380 How old were you when that was?

07:36:36.440 I was 29.

07:36:39.580 Okay.

07:36:40.460 Cool.

07:36:40.960 I was 29 years old.

07:36:42.260 So, question for you.

07:36:43.200 30 years.

07:36:43.700 So, this was like, I'm asking you guys, like, how far are you going to go back?

07:36:48.160 Like, 30 years?

07:36:49.640 Yeah. 1.00

07:36:50.380 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00

07:36:52.360 So, question for you, Amy. 1.00

07:36:57.420 Seems like, you know, I finished your notes.

07:37:02.000 Yes.

07:37:02.120 If you...

07:37:03.120 Can you behave yourself?

07:37:05.940 Yes, I can.

07:37:07.340 I've always behaved myself. 1.00

07:37:09.360 What the fuck? 0.99

07:37:09.620 I'm giving you one more chance, Amy. 1.00

07:37:11.340 What the hell are you talking about, man?

07:37:12.740 Amy, I'm giving you one more chance. 0.97

07:37:14.740 What are you talking about?

07:37:16.320 I need you to behave.

07:37:17.920 Okay.

07:37:18.960 No more yelling.

07:37:20.140 There can't be any more yelling.

07:37:21.300 You can't be getting in Erica's face.

07:37:24.040 Can't get in her face.

07:37:25.160 I was never getting in anybody's face.

07:37:27.040 Eh, you got in her face a little bit.

07:37:28.700 You're getting in her physical bubble, her physical space.

07:37:31.740 You gotta knock that out.

07:37:32.180 If you want to kick me out of here, kick me out of here. 1.00

07:37:35.120 I'm not going to sit here and fucking do this shit with you. 1.00

07:37:38.960 Okay? 1.00

07:37:39.980 I'm on fucking vacation. 0.99

07:37:41.580 I'm going to go to Pismo tomorrow and enjoy myself. 0.99

07:37:46.140 That's it.

07:37:47.360 Well, hey. 1.00

07:37:48.120 So, what the fuck? 1.00

07:37:49.520 I think that... 1.00

07:37:52.660 That way I can get out of this fucking chair and go home. 1.00

07:37:56.040 Or go back to my hotel. 1.00

07:37:58.440 Back to my fucking kids, man. 1.00

07:38:00.420 I think you should... 1.00

07:38:01.020 You don't need his permission to kick you out.

07:38:02.860 If you want to leave, you can leave.

07:38:03.760 If you want to leave, you can leave. 1.00

07:38:05.680 Well, don't give a fuck, man. 1.00

07:38:07.680 Okay, well, thank you for coming on. 1.00

07:38:10.260 It was good to meet you.

07:38:11.220 I hope you have a good rest of your night.

07:38:16.940 Thank you.

07:38:17.920 Thank you.

07:38:18.400 Thank you very much.

07:38:19.400 Thank you.

07:38:20.320 It was good to meet you.

07:38:21.680 Thank you.

07:38:22.160 Amy, it was a pleasure.

07:38:23.780 Thank you.

07:38:24.300 Thank you, Amy.

07:38:25.740 Thank you.

07:38:26.140 Peace out.

07:38:41.100 Peace out.

07:38:41.740 You too, homie.

07:38:42.880 Great to see you.

07:38:43.880 Glad you can make it.

07:38:45.180 Sorry.

07:38:45.460 Yeah, it's good.

07:38:58.600 It's good, you know.

07:39:06.520 One sec, guys.

07:39:07.480 We're dealing with the situation.

07:39:12.320 Anybody want to talk momentarily?

07:39:14.080 Keep them entertained while I step away for a brief moment?

07:39:19.920 I was going to say something funny, but I don't want them to hear me.

07:39:22.340 Say something funny.

07:39:23.260 Say it.

07:39:23.680 They're busy.

07:39:24.500 Yeah.

07:39:24.740 I was listening.

07:39:25.180 We'll hear.

07:39:27.000 Oldest woman on the show acts like a 12-year-old. 1.00

07:39:31.220 Freaking insane. 0.97

07:39:32.560 Over here. 0.96

07:39:34.700 And they call 19 and 20-year-olds immature.

07:39:37.240 Sure.

07:39:42.900 She's obviously intoxicated.

07:39:44.240 I think everyone on the show tonight is super beautiful and, like, super intelligent.

07:39:49.420 You've got to learn how to hold your alcohol at 52.

07:39:53.540 Is that all she had, though?

07:39:54.780 I think tequila and champagne.

07:39:57.500 Oh, no.

07:39:58.340 Yeah.

07:39:58.700 You didn't even know she was drinking. 0.99

07:39:59.880 Like, I know.

07:40:00.520 I don't know.

07:40:01.380 I don't remember.

07:40:02.700 That's so embarrassing.

07:40:03.980 This is, like, on YouTube forever.

07:40:06.860 I don't know either.

07:40:07.520 I'm not talking about you, Erica.

07:40:21.900 It's been funny.

07:40:26.060 I forgot where we even left off.

07:40:28.940 Yeah, I don't know.

07:40:29.760 The smart ladies. 0.99

07:40:30.360 I'm just, like, annoyed.

07:40:31.240 Come on.

07:40:31.620 Say something.

07:40:32.340 Thank you.

07:40:33.080 The doctor.

07:40:34.380 Dr. Laura.

07:40:35.160 Promote the book, maybe.

07:40:38.320 The beautiful, lovely doctor lady.

07:40:40.100 I hope she's not driving either.

07:40:41.780 Okay, yeah.

07:40:42.100 I have nothing else to talk about.

07:40:43.100 She has a hotel.

07:40:44.080 So, I wrote a book about how to deal with the most toxic people.

07:40:47.080 It's called Outsmarting Egomaniacs, How to Respond to Narcissists and Master Manipulators.

07:40:51.480 It's available everywhere.

07:40:52.820 It's funny.

07:40:54.100 And it'll help you deal with the most impossible people in your life.

07:40:57.940 Written by?

07:40:58.500 Like the woman. 0.61

07:40:59.920 Written by me, Carla Leto.

07:41:01.040 Okay.

07:41:01.360 It has a red balloon on the cover.

07:41:03.320 Are they able to chat without, like, paying for it?

07:41:07.340 Are they able to leave something in the chat?

07:41:09.160 I think so, but I think to read them, it has to be, like, 100 bucks.

07:41:12.660 I think for the regular chat, it's, like, $6 a month.

07:41:17.340 Like, $5 a month, I think.

07:41:19.560 What's, like, a deep burning question we could ask and go around the table?

07:41:26.260 What is our dream?

07:41:28.260 What is our goal?

07:41:28.880 What is our five-year goal?

07:41:29.700 Y'all can start.

07:41:33.180 Let's do it.

07:41:33.960 Five-year goals, girls.

07:41:35.660 You talk so much during this whole podcast.

07:41:38.500 Yeah, you've got to be exhausted.

07:41:40.580 They kind of attacked me.

07:41:42.140 Share one.

07:41:42.720 I had no idea.

07:41:43.340 Leave you alone.

07:41:44.740 Okay, five-year goal.

07:41:46.460 Um, five-year goal.

07:41:49.480 I really like doing content creation, and I'm in the fitness niche, so I think I still want

07:41:53.860 to do it.

07:41:54.380 What kind of content?

07:41:56.040 I do fitness stuff, so I post, like, workouts and, like, motivational stuff, but I've been

07:42:01.220 doing, like, creation kind of everywhere since I was, like, five years old, so, yeah, it's,

07:42:06.680 like, my little hobby.

07:42:07.460 If I could make a living out of it, that would be awesome.

07:42:10.900 I like that.

07:42:11.720 That's nice.

07:42:12.540 And I want to get married to my now boyfriend.

07:42:14.920 Aw.

07:42:15.180 Aw.

07:42:15.380 Wait, I have a question, if you don't mind me asking.

07:42:20.980 How did your parents, like, react?

07:42:23.360 Like, were they supportive of you getting married so early?

07:42:26.560 No.

07:42:27.520 Um, I, like, I originally had a lot of academic scholarships, and I was actually going to go

07:42:34.520 to Oregon University, which is, like, really random, but I turned all of my scholarships

07:42:40.020 down and ended up not wanting to go to college, and that was, like, the first thing that they

07:42:44.600 were, like, uh, like, what are you doing with your life, and I, my parents always told me

07:42:49.600 I had to get a college degree before I ever, like, moved on to the next thing, like, marriage.

07:42:53.980 Yeah.

07:42:54.180 They're, like, you have to have a college degree, or we're not going to bless your marriage,

07:42:57.100 basically.

07:42:58.060 So I said that, and then, like, two months later, I was, like, by the way, I'm getting

07:43:00.780 married at 18 as well, and they took it better than I think most, like, a lot of modern

07:43:07.620 parents would.

07:43:08.600 Yeah.

07:43:09.100 But I'm also just very strong-willed, and, like, when I want to do something, I just, like, do

07:43:14.280 it.

07:43:14.600 But aren't you, like, afraid, because I kind of want to do some things that you've

07:43:18.520 done, which is, I love that.

07:43:20.080 I love that you're, like, married, and, like.

07:43:22.400 Thank you.

07:43:22.880 Yeah, this really, like, not, I don't know if it's perfect, like, I think every relationship

07:43:26.940 is kind of, you know, but it seems, like, really nice, but, um, like, aren't you afraid

07:43:34.160 of what happens with the value with your family and stuff like that?

07:43:39.300 You know what I mean?

07:43:40.240 So, do you mean, like, our, my relationship with my family?

07:43:42.260 Yeah, yeah.

07:43:42.700 Now it's better than ever.

07:43:45.040 I think, like, getting, because I never, like, lived on my own.

07:43:48.740 Like, I moved straight out of my parents' house.

07:43:50.320 Yeah, yeah.

07:43:50.760 And with my husband, of course.

07:43:51.840 Yeah.

07:43:52.200 So, I think actually, like, moving away and starting my own life made our relationship

07:43:56.860 better because now they see, like, first of all, they love my husband.

07:44:00.080 Like, he's the best.

07:44:01.440 Yeah, yeah.

07:44:01.960 And also, um, they've seen that we can build a life together and, like, create something

07:44:07.520 really beautiful.

07:44:08.200 I'm sure they had doubts in the beginning of, like, how are they going to do this?

07:44:10.840 Like, they're just two kids who didn't go to college and, like, it's not normal.

07:44:14.120 Do you have friends that are our age that, like, support you?

07:44:16.840 My best friend is, is 20.

07:44:19.640 But outside of that, all of our friends are older as in, like, 24 to 28 range.

07:44:25.840 So, nothing too crazy different.

07:44:27.240 But no, no one is married in my friend group yet.

07:44:31.280 So, that's only.

07:44:31.980 Oh, wow.

07:44:32.800 Well, actually, no.

07:44:33.880 There's one couple that is, but in my, like, immediate friend group, we're the only married

07:44:37.720 ones.

07:44:37.880 We should be friends.

07:44:38.840 Yeah, we totally should.

07:44:39.980 Yeah, I know.

07:44:40.800 We need to connect after this.

07:44:44.020 Is the whole panel leaving?

07:44:45.500 Yeah, I don't know.

07:44:47.020 It's a one-woman show. 0.98

07:44:50.100 Well, since Brian.

07:44:51.260 Picture your plan.

07:44:51.960 Since Brian doesn't put our, uh, Instagrams in the description.

07:44:57.200 Go ahead.

07:44:57.860 It's Savannah Faith Stone on Instagram.

07:45:00.440 Oh, my God.

07:45:01.180 A Southern gal.

07:45:02.360 There's drama.

07:45:02.820 That's what that is, you guys.

07:45:03.920 There's drama outside.

07:45:04.540 Subscribe, follow.

07:45:06.260 Mine is Nausicaa underscore L-Y-F. 0.99

07:45:09.260 If anyone knows the Miyazaki anime, that's me.

07:45:12.820 I'm cute.

07:45:14.320 You are super cute.

07:45:16.000 Oh, thank you.

07:45:16.120 You're not cute.

07:45:16.700 You're beautiful.

07:45:17.580 Oh, thank you.

07:45:18.020 We actually appreciate that.

07:45:19.120 You're beautiful.

07:45:19.760 Oh, thank you.

07:45:20.360 I think everyone here is pretty.

07:45:21.780 I do, too.

07:45:22.980 Actually, everyone on the panel is beautiful.

07:45:25.460 Me and Savannah were on the plane together this morning, like, sitting right next to each

07:45:29.220 other.

07:45:29.520 Oh, wait.

07:45:30.120 You guys, like, like, talks because you saw her watching the podcast, right?

07:45:32.920 She was watching the whatever podcast, and I was like, she's either a fan or she's going

07:45:37.800 to the same shoot right now.

07:45:40.740 Yeah, very interesting.

07:45:41.440 And you got to pick your seat, right?

07:45:43.320 Like, randomly.

07:45:44.000 No, I didn't pick my seat.

07:45:45.180 Oh, see, like, I, like, selected a seat randomly.

07:45:47.120 I didn't even.

07:45:47.800 And then you just got randomly put there.

07:45:49.200 I never select my seats.

07:45:50.300 I don't know why, because I always end up in the middle when I do that, but it's like,

07:45:53.420 whatever.

07:45:53.880 That flight wasn't that bad, but yeah.

07:45:55.440 No.

07:45:55.740 It was by chance I ended up there.

07:45:57.060 Yeah, so random.

07:45:58.840 I literally know nothing. 1.00

07:46:00.500 Damn. 1.00

07:46:01.580 I hear crying. 1.00

07:46:02.760 I hear fighting.

07:46:02.960 Can you see how many viewers are on here?

07:46:05.320 I don't think it's a way.

07:46:06.600 I'm not even going to tell.

07:46:08.660 Is this going to go down as Brian's most chaotic?

07:46:11.440 Yeah, I'm, like, confused.

07:46:12.560 Like, has this ever happened?

07:46:13.780 Like, he's just left the set.

07:46:15.360 Also, I can't imagine how you're feeling as someone who hasn't watched or known the show

07:46:20.240 too much.

07:46:20.740 I'm just wondering when we get to go to bed.

07:46:23.640 That's a great question.

07:46:26.080 My body was asleep, like, hours ago.

07:46:29.040 I could see.

07:46:29.580 I'm crotting. 1.00

07:46:30.300 I love this shit. 1.00

07:46:31.720 No, I've crashed. 1.00

07:46:32.500 I love this so much.

07:46:34.340 Did you guys ever go on the app Periscope?

07:46:35.940 Only a few cellies.

07:46:36.880 No.

07:46:37.300 It was a live stream app.

07:46:38.380 It was amazing.

07:46:39.860 Oh, sorry.

07:46:40.400 Not me.

07:46:40.740 You're fine.

07:46:41.600 Not me directing.

07:46:42.540 I know, right?

07:46:43.080 Into the mics, you guys.

07:46:45.440 All right.

07:46:47.520 I wonder if anybody's still watching.

07:46:49.440 Yeah, I have no idea.

07:46:50.400 I don't even know how many live streamers they usually have, like, views.

07:46:54.180 Oh, okay.

07:46:54.780 They get, like...

07:46:56.180 Well, how's everybody feeling, the therapist asks.

07:47:04.340 I feel...

07:47:05.840 I want to read your book.

07:47:06.980 Oh, thank you.

07:47:07.760 I'm curious about it now.

07:47:08.960 Oh, I have to read it.

07:47:10.020 Yeah, I know.

07:47:10.680 I, like, need to read it in my life.

07:47:13.340 We drove three hours.

07:47:15.000 Three and a half.

07:47:15.640 I have anxiety.

07:47:17.180 Do you really?

07:47:17.900 We've been up since four Eastern time.

07:47:20.020 I don't know.

07:47:20.700 Once, right?

07:47:21.820 So, one this time.

07:47:22.800 Yeah.

07:47:23.420 Oh, you guys are friends.

07:47:24.820 Stop being better than everybody.

07:47:26.480 We just flew in.

07:47:27.460 We're just from the East Coast.

07:47:28.960 Stop being younger, hotter, and better than anybody, okay?

07:47:31.520 Like, we already know.

07:47:32.800 I'm just kidding.

07:47:33.840 Okay. 0.88

07:47:34.460 I'll shut up. 0.90

07:47:35.300 Nobody's better than me.

07:47:36.820 No, we've been up, like, 24 hours, probably.

07:47:39.020 Yeah, it's for Eastern time right now.

07:47:41.520 Are you from Georgia as well?

07:47:42.560 I'm from Florida.

07:47:43.500 So, like, literally right above her.

07:47:44.760 Yeah, so we've been awake for 24 hours right now.

07:47:46.680 That's cool.

07:47:47.460 Do you know who Jimmy Levy is?

07:47:49.940 Where?

07:47:50.320 What city is he from?

07:47:51.440 Oh, and, like, you seem like you'd be a part of, like, his thing.

07:47:54.000 Jimmy Levy.

07:47:54.440 Love you, Jimmy.

07:47:55.200 Shout out Jimmy Levy.

07:47:56.080 Love him.

07:47:56.940 Dave Ho.

07:47:58.360 No, Jimmy Levy's legit.

07:47:59.760 He's, like, I think he was talking with him.

07:48:01.120 Where does he live?

07:48:02.240 Florida.

07:48:02.980 But do you know what city?

07:48:03.840 He does content?

07:48:05.180 Yeah, but it's, like, he's a singer, and he promotes, like, Jesus and Christianity.

07:48:12.860 But he's really talented.

07:48:13.600 I may have seen him on social media.

07:48:15.820 Jimmy, you're so talented.

07:48:17.060 Love you, Jimmy.

07:48:17.540 If you're watching this, he's probably going to see this if you want.

07:48:19.680 But if anybody scrolls to the very end of the podcast, this is what.

07:48:24.160 No, Jimmy's going to be pissed about everything I said.

07:48:26.520 Everything he says I shouldn't.

07:48:28.060 Wait, I have a question.

07:48:29.120 I'm sorry.

07:48:29.460 Is it not common where you're from that people marry young?

07:48:33.240 It's common.

07:48:34.840 Just not in your friend group?

07:48:35.940 Not in my, like, I would say not in my family.

07:48:38.980 Like, my mom got married at 28. 0.94

07:48:41.760 Oh, wow.

07:48:42.360 Yeah.

07:48:42.540 And then she had me at 30.

07:48:46.600 So, like, I'm considered later in life.

07:48:49.080 But, yeah.

07:48:49.640 I just think my parents and my immediate family were always very career-driven.

07:48:54.380 And so that just got passed down to me.

07:48:56.460 But the smaller towns in Florida and, like, north or south Georgia, definitely people get it.

07:49:01.960 These are the girls. 0.75

07:49:03.600 Oh, sorry.

07:49:04.880 Shout out Hayden and Rochelle, my besties.

07:49:08.060 The girls.

07:49:08.980 Blackout girls. 1.00

07:49:09.720 Shut up, blackout girls. 1.00

07:49:10.620 Okay, bye. 0.99

07:49:11.040 Love you guys.

07:49:11.680 Bye.

07:49:14.240 Had to shout out the homies. 1.00

07:49:15.720 Bad girls. 0.98

07:49:16.460 I'm sorry, Mari.

07:49:17.760 Oh, my God.

07:49:18.460 Wait, is it Mari?

07:49:19.240 Sure.

07:49:19.880 Oh, my God. 1.00

07:49:20.780 Fucking married, bitch. 1.00

07:49:22.060 I am so sorry. 1.00

07:49:24.560 You've been married for eight hours.

07:49:25.760 I know.

07:49:26.600 I'm sorry.

07:49:29.880 It's a little wet on this seat. 1.00

07:49:31.620 Fuck. 1.00

07:49:33.820 Wait, I low-key feel bad, but I don't because I don't have sympathy. 1.00

07:49:37.180 It would be for, like, people, so.

07:49:41.500 You are your own villain.

07:49:47.100 How's the conversation, though?

07:49:48.500 You guys can be disappointed.

07:49:48.940 We have been chatting.

07:49:50.680 I mean, like, it's not, like, you know, controversial, but we've been chatting about each other's lives.

07:49:55.180 Oh, boy.

07:49:55.900 All right, guys.

07:49:56.580 That woman, I don't even know where to begin. 0.97

07:49:59.620 I don't think I recorded.

07:50:00.480 Was she crying?

07:50:01.860 I feel bad, but I don't. 0.99

07:50:03.300 She, uh, yeah, and then it was just, um, what the fuck? 0.99

07:50:08.620 Mike Davis still simping, man. 0.99

07:50:12.620 Still simping.

07:50:13.320 Okay, so he's 5'10".

07:50:14.940 Ah, Klain, thank you.

07:50:16.720 Send me the money, Mike.

07:50:18.260 What's going on?

07:50:20.200 All right.

07:50:20.980 Oh.

07:50:22.820 All right.

07:50:23.560 Klain, thank you for that.

07:50:24.680 Appreciate it.

07:50:25.180 Here.

07:50:26.280 I kind of want to, uh, try to finish this up here soon.

07:50:30.200 Yeah, it's like.

07:50:31.060 Karen's mad. 0.93

07:50:32.500 I don't think that's a Karen.

07:50:33.660 That is not a Karen.

07:50:34.640 That's not a long ceiling.

07:50:36.560 That was something else.

07:50:38.940 What happened when I left?

07:50:40.420 That was Bonnie Blue in 40 years.

07:50:42.800 Man.

07:50:43.220 That's me in 40 years, you said?

07:50:44.500 No, I said Bonnie Blue.

07:50:45.840 I was like, Bonnie Blue?

07:50:48.240 Oh, wait, who? 0.99

07:50:49.140 Is that the girl that fucks, like, thousands of guys? 1.00

07:50:51.100 Were you guys actually talking? 0.99

07:50:52.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

07:50:54.140 Super casual call.

07:50:55.380 The viewership, ever since I left, just went.

07:50:58.240 I feel bad.

07:50:59.140 I literally said that.

07:50:59.880 I was like, I bet you no one's watching.

07:51:01.080 Brian, you're the star.

07:51:01.840 That's why.

07:51:02.860 Your fans love you.

07:51:05.140 All right.

07:51:05.620 I'm trying to see what else we have to get to.

07:51:06.780 Now you're ready to end it because your views went down.

07:51:09.260 I get it.

07:51:09.720 No, it's not that. 1.00

07:51:10.480 Just fucking had to deal with that crazy fucking lady. 1.00

07:51:14.140 I think you should do a no alcohol rule on the show. 1.00

07:51:17.840 No.

07:51:18.120 What?

07:51:18.920 Well, so like.

07:51:19.600 I didn't even know she was clean.

07:51:20.000 For that reason.

07:51:20.660 We don't.

07:51:21.160 She told us she was drinking Malibu.

07:51:23.420 We don't offer.

07:51:24.420 That was the sound in the trash can, by the way.

07:51:26.680 She was not kidding.

07:51:27.280 I literally thought that was a joke.

07:51:29.060 I've been drinking, so we're not going to end the no alcohol rule.

07:51:32.260 That was pretty early in the show.

07:51:33.820 That's what Fresh and Fit had.

07:51:35.480 Well, the only times we, like, we don't offer alcohol.

07:51:41.480 I know that.

07:51:42.020 The only time, like, if there's a champagne pop on the show, yes.

07:51:44.760 But like, behind the scenes, no alcohol.

07:51:46.740 We don't offer alcohol to the guests.

07:51:49.060 And like, there were three or four champagne pops.

07:51:52.040 But I mean.

07:51:53.480 No, she had Malibu.

07:51:54.600 She showed me.

07:51:55.320 She drank an entire bottle of rum.

07:51:57.540 And like, who knows what she was doing in the restroom. 1.00

07:52:00.620 Yeah.

07:52:00.940 Because like, the amount of champagne she had was like a cup of champagne.

07:52:03.400 It was champagne to sink a champagne.

07:52:04.620 And that was not champagne.

07:52:05.540 It was two glasses.

07:52:06.280 She went in the restroom for a long day, by the way, was her shoving the rum bottle down there. 1.00

07:52:11.380 And that was in the first, like, two or three hours.

07:52:13.900 So like, right away, she drank a whole bottle of rum.

07:52:16.680 She got drunk on her own? 0.83

07:52:17.780 I don't know.

07:52:18.120 I'm not counting people's.

07:52:19.120 Okay.

07:52:19.580 Yeah, I know.

07:52:20.300 She was drinking Malibu, she said.

07:52:23.180 All good?

07:52:24.220 Yes.

07:52:25.120 Okay.

07:52:25.620 I don't know where she is.

07:52:26.640 She's not there.

07:52:27.180 She said she has a hotel room.

07:52:28.860 She'll be fine.

07:52:29.580 My daughter is in town.

07:52:30.880 She'll be fine.

07:52:31.580 She'll be fine.

07:52:31.980 She'll be fine.

07:52:32.660 All right, here.

07:52:33.420 Felicity, why don't you join the panel?

07:52:35.660 It might be a little wet.

07:52:37.100 Oh, my God.

07:52:37.720 Felicity.

07:52:38.240 Oh, my God.

07:52:38.940 No way.

07:52:39.260 Yay.

07:52:40.160 We'll flip the. 1.00

07:52:41.000 I know my ass is wet right now. 1.00

07:52:42.520 I'm fucking sorry. 1.00

07:52:43.120 Just get, swap a, get a different seat, seat booster for Felicity. 0.93

07:52:49.020 All right, guys.

07:52:49.760 Let's get back to the show.

07:52:51.240 Come on.

07:52:51.680 Let's get back to the show.

07:52:53.340 Patriot, thank you for the soup chat.

07:52:54.780 Appreciate it.

07:52:55.240 Appreciate it.

07:52:56.500 Coastal Operator, thank you for the soup chat.

07:52:58.260 Appreciate it, guys.

07:52:59.580 All right.

07:53:02.760 Let's do.

07:53:03.320 We need to do the bow video.

07:53:06.360 The bow video.

07:53:07.160 Once Felicity's here, we'll do the bow video. 0.64

07:53:08.920 As she's seen it.

07:53:09.640 All right, go ahead.

07:53:10.120 Play it.

07:53:10.400 This is my ex-girlfriend.

07:53:12.120 Check this out.

07:53:12.680 Watch.

07:53:13.120 This is my expectations of a girl.

07:53:15.660 Boom.

07:53:16.080 Huge bow.

07:53:16.600 Did you see the bow?

07:53:18.100 She has to bow.

07:53:19.220 I demand a bow.

07:53:20.380 Always need the bow.

07:53:22.080 This was after a really long, exhausting podcast.

07:53:26.100 Podcast day.

07:53:27.040 I hope Sue's watching.

07:53:27.860 I hope Sue's watching, too.

07:53:30.320 Who's Sue? 0.98

07:53:30.860 Our friend does this to our other friend.

07:53:32.340 She's like North Korean. 0.99

07:53:33.740 She's hot, but she dresses like an Amish princess. 1.00

07:53:37.500 She does this to our guy friend. 1.00

07:53:38.780 She has my dinner ready.

07:53:39.880 Dave Hope.

07:53:39.980 She cooks better than me.

07:53:41.840 It's very nice of her.

07:53:44.340 Wait, Brian.

07:53:44.860 You should eat Sue.

07:53:45.680 Play it again.

07:53:47.580 Boom.

07:53:48.220 Huge bow.

07:53:48.760 Do you see the depth of the bow?

07:53:50.020 Great bow.

07:53:50.760 Fantastic.

07:53:51.400 One of the best I've ever seen.

07:53:52.440 Going around the table, would you bow for your boyfriend or husband?

07:53:57.040 No.

07:53:58.280 Nope.

07:53:59.340 Yes.

07:54:00.060 Of course.

07:54:00.880 Girl, what?

07:54:01.260 I only bow.

07:54:01.900 Can you move your mic that way, please?

07:54:03.820 Move your mic that way?

07:54:04.680 Me?

07:54:05.000 Yeah, you.

07:54:06.320 And then turn it straight, please.

07:54:08.100 Go ahead.

07:54:08.560 I do it as a gesture sometimes, but I only bow to God.

07:54:13.640 I don't worship my husband.

07:54:16.360 But I thought you said you'd be submissive to your husband.

07:54:17.740 But I do bow as a gesture.

07:54:19.880 I think it's cute, but not in the way that I worship.

07:54:23.940 Like that kind of bow.

07:54:24.720 I worship you.

07:54:25.700 Yeah, that was a cute bow.

07:54:27.120 Yeah, it was a cute bow.

07:54:27.740 Wait, was that actually your ex-girlfriend?

07:54:30.000 No.

07:54:30.500 No.

07:54:30.980 I was going to say, why aren't you with her?

07:54:33.040 I say that, though.

07:54:35.740 Yes.

07:54:36.300 You'd hit the bow for...

07:54:37.660 Okay.

07:54:37.960 What about you?

07:54:38.420 Would you hit the bow?

07:54:38.720 I don't think he even wants me to.

07:54:41.320 But if he asked for it, would you do it?

07:54:43.200 Well, if he asked me, would you bow right now for me, sweetie?

07:54:45.300 I would just bow.

07:54:46.260 Yeah.

07:54:46.500 Okay.

07:54:46.700 What about you?

07:54:47.240 Would you hit the bow?

07:54:47.900 It's a cultural thing that we both already do.

07:54:50.580 Oh.

07:54:50.940 You already did it.

07:54:51.960 Wait, what?

07:54:52.600 So wait, is that a no and a no?

07:54:54.300 And did you say...

07:54:54.820 Sorry, you said yes?

07:54:55.460 Of course.

07:54:56.040 So wait, no, no.

07:54:57.220 No.

07:54:57.660 Would you do it for the perfect man? 1.00

07:54:59.160 Fuck no. 1.00

07:54:59.960 The perfect man wouldn't ask me to bow to him. 1.00

07:55:02.480 Just to bow.

07:55:03.420 In my opinion, of course.

07:55:05.240 My perfect man, not everyone's.

07:55:05.340 He's perfect in every other way.

07:55:08.180 Right, but why does he want you to bow?

07:55:10.080 Exactly.

07:55:10.580 It's obviously indicative of another characteristic trait if he's bowed to me now.

07:55:15.360 Yeah.

07:55:15.560 I don't think they...

07:55:17.260 I think most really good men don't say it, like, bow to me, like, you better worship

07:55:22.000 me.

07:55:22.440 But it's just like, I don't know.

07:55:24.660 How about a little bow?

07:55:25.100 It's just like, you.

07:55:25.700 It's an Asian culture.

07:55:26.900 Let's see the bow.

07:55:27.480 Do you want that brand?

07:55:28.680 Is that, like, your, like, main...

07:55:30.720 One of your main characteristics that you want in a female? 1.00

07:55:33.140 Is what?

07:55:33.920 Like, them to bow to you like that.

07:55:36.340 You know, the thing is, is that ultimately the bow's not that important.

07:55:40.760 What it is, though, is a temperature check for her agreeableness and then her cooperativeness.

07:55:47.080 So, it really, ultimately, the bow, it's not about the bow itself.

07:55:52.360 It's a check for, is she submissive?

07:55:55.680 Will she do a totally effortless, completely benign, harmless act just for the sake of doing 0.97

07:56:03.800 it because I ask for it?

07:56:05.780 And that's what it's looking for.

07:56:08.120 Have you had someone do that for you?

07:56:10.300 Oh, yeah.

07:56:10.840 All the time.

07:56:11.840 Are you actually serious?

07:56:13.080 Where are they?

07:56:13.760 If your wife asked you, would you?

07:56:16.080 So, if my...

07:56:17.340 No, well, hold on.

07:56:17.980 Like, in private at the house, you know?

07:56:21.060 Well, this is the compromise I'd be willing to make.

07:56:23.180 I say, for the perfect woman, even I would be willing to bow to her. 0.99

07:56:28.100 But, like, once a day.

07:56:29.940 That's the cap.

07:56:31.020 I won't do more.

07:56:31.600 Just one time.

07:56:32.360 Once a day is enough, I guess.

07:56:33.840 But, like, for the perfect woman, there's a lot of things I would be willing to compromise 0.94

07:56:39.320 on, for the perfect woman.

07:56:42.320 So...

07:56:42.760 Weren't you advocating for, like, a Western society that doesn't really go along the lines

07:56:46.840 of a Western society?

07:56:47.820 What would you compromise?

07:56:48.880 What's the most controversial thing you'd compromise?

07:56:50.680 I mean, kings and monarchs were bowed to.

07:56:53.240 So, it's out of fashion now.

07:56:55.900 But, yeah.

07:56:56.400 You don't do it now?

07:56:58.060 So?

07:56:59.060 I don't care.

07:56:59.940 You're an old-fashioned man.

07:57:00.480 I mean, it's still normal in Asia.

07:57:02.340 Okay.

07:57:02.880 What part of Asia?

07:57:03.840 Like, all parts?

07:57:04.740 In all.

07:57:05.340 More dominantly in Korea.

07:57:07.440 Interesting.

07:57:08.180 Okay.

07:57:08.640 Sooyoung Kim.

07:57:09.640 I know, right?

07:57:10.320 She does, yeah.

07:57:11.040 And David.

07:57:11.960 I know.

07:57:12.820 Yeah.

07:57:13.300 All of her people.

07:57:14.100 Shout out Dave Ho.

07:57:15.420 Shout out Ho. 0.99

07:57:16.940 But, I guess my confusion...

07:57:18.560 I like it.

07:57:18.580 I think it's very respectful and nice.

07:57:19.580 Have you...

07:57:20.020 Question.

07:57:20.640 Jazz, have you ever had a, like, a sneaky link?

07:57:26.840 Defined sneaky link? 0.88

07:57:28.560 Like a guy who you just start seeing and it's just casual sex, basically?

07:57:33.980 No.

07:57:35.000 Have you ever had in the one-night stand?

07:57:36.980 Yes.

07:57:37.540 In college, yeah.

07:57:38.860 Have you had, like, more than one one-night stand?

07:57:41.280 No.

07:57:41.860 You had one one-night stand?

07:57:43.720 Okay.

07:57:44.000 Have you ever...

07:57:45.000 It wasn't a one-night stand, like, you continued to see the guy.

07:57:48.400 Yes.

07:57:48.820 But you hooked up on the first date?

07:57:53.820 Um...

07:57:54.260 Not on, like, the first date, but there was situations where, like, we were hanging out,

07:58:00.160 we were friends, we...

07:58:01.500 Acquaintances, whatever.

07:58:02.620 And then there happened to be a night where we hooked up, and then after that we were together.

07:58:06.720 So I don't know how you would classify that.

07:58:08.760 Okay.

07:58:09.040 How long had you known them, I guess?

07:58:11.580 Um, a couple months.

07:58:13.360 Like, three months.

07:58:14.160 What I don't understand when it comes to the bow is, you guys will, maybe this isn't the

07:58:20.220 case for all of you, but I think if you ask a lot of women who refuse to do the bow, 0.99

07:58:25.980 well, have you ever had a one-night stand?

07:58:27.900 A lot of them would say yes. 1.00

07:58:28.740 It's like, you'll let a man put his penis inside of you. 1.00

07:58:32.700 One of the most intimate things that you can really do. 1.00

07:58:35.640 Uh, you'll let him, you'll, you'll S the D.

07:58:38.980 You'll S the D. 0.77

07:58:40.120 You'll let him blast on your face. 1.00

07:58:42.060 It's in your fucking hair. 1.00

07:58:44.860 No, this isn't... 1.00

07:58:45.820 In the eyeball.

07:58:46.380 Oh my God.

07:58:46.640 This isn't not regrettably, I will say.

07:58:49.700 And it's a mixture of being overworked, full-time student, and a lot of alcohol.

07:58:53.900 Oh.

07:58:54.800 But...

07:58:55.480 And regret.

07:58:56.200 Y'all will let a guy hit, but you won't do the bow?

07:59:02.480 Well, our standards are different now, maybe if you asked me back then, but I don't know.

07:59:06.520 Yeah, I'm not asking you back then, though.

07:59:07.880 I am asking you now.

07:59:08.920 Yeah, and my standards have changed.

07:59:10.360 Like, I wouldn't have a one-night stand now.

07:59:13.240 No, I know, but it's like, you did, and a lot of other women who have objections to 1.00

07:59:17.760 this whole benign bow thing, they'll suck a dick within a minute, two minutes, three minutes. 1.00

07:59:25.840 Does it make you feel less than if you bow to a man? 0.99

07:59:28.960 Is that why you're, like, opposed to it?

07:59:30.440 I question why they're asking me to bow to them, so that they feel superior.

07:59:34.160 If you ask a man to stop following women on Instagram, is it, like, the same?

07:59:38.880 If they do or don't?

07:59:41.000 Like, what do you mean?

07:59:41.600 The question.

07:59:42.380 If you ask a man to not follow women on Instagram, and then he's like, okay, bow to me.

07:59:47.880 Like, that's...

07:59:49.920 I'm not sure I should say this.

07:59:51.340 Clayton, we're not at the roast.

07:59:53.080 Go ahead.

07:59:53.700 Sorry.

07:59:54.220 Go ahead.

07:59:54.380 No, I'm not sure if I should say this. 1.00

07:59:55.720 Say that shit. 0.99

07:59:56.640 But I find enjoyment in doing what I'm told. 1.00

08:00:00.820 Me too.

08:00:01.520 That's high.

08:00:02.440 It's very attractive.

08:00:03.540 I've...

08:00:04.100 Maybe that's more correlated than...

08:00:05.640 It's literally nothing.

08:00:06.740 Like, it's...

08:00:07.480 It's painless.

08:00:08.780 You don't have to change anything about yourself.

08:00:10.540 Can I ask why?

08:00:11.180 Hey, she's a keeper right here.

08:00:12.340 She is a keeper.

08:00:13.160 Not even the bow.

08:00:15.120 I'm thinking of other things.

08:00:16.500 Like, I don't know.

08:00:17.800 Just not being told what to do.

08:00:20.000 Yeah.

08:00:20.440 I think it's attractive.

08:00:21.260 Well, you enjoy being submissive.

08:00:23.940 Yeah, but...

08:00:24.640 Have you pegged somebody, Jazz?

08:00:26.120 Have you ever pegged a guy?

08:00:27.840 I have not.

08:00:28.820 Has a guy ever asked to be pegged?

08:00:30.960 I honestly don't want to talk about my sexual experiences on here.

08:00:34.840 I think what she's trying to get at...

08:00:38.000 She pegged a guy once.

08:00:39.580 Inappropriate, but no. 1.00

08:00:40.260 You're so dirty-minded. 1.00

08:00:41.660 Oh, my God. 1.00

08:00:42.060 What the fuck? 1.00

08:00:42.700 I'm not into that shit. 1.00

08:00:43.560 I'm just saying. 1.00

08:00:44.600 That's the kind...

08:00:45.060 Wait.

08:00:45.140 She wants to dominate a dude. 1.00

08:00:46.740 She wants to bend a dude over. 1.00

08:00:48.160 Give her 10 years.

08:00:49.640 We'll circle back.

08:00:50.340 Hold on.

08:00:51.040 I want to answer her question.

08:00:52.300 Go ahead.

08:00:53.300 You said...

08:00:54.520 Sorry, you said I like submitting.

08:00:56.920 Is that what you said?

08:00:57.360 Yeah, like why?

08:00:57.720 Like why?

08:00:58.200 Yeah, yeah.

08:00:59.040 Well, I don't...

08:01:00.100 I mean, I don't think you should just submit to any man, right?

08:01:02.180 Like, I don't think you should submit to your boyfriend.

08:01:04.260 I think that that's reserved for your husband.

08:01:07.180 So, a marriage...

08:01:08.160 But a marriage doesn't work without a submissive wife. 1.00

08:01:11.300 And a husband is head of the household.

08:01:13.780 If it does work, it's much, much harder to make it work.

08:01:17.800 Wait.

08:01:18.120 I have a question.

08:01:18.640 Did you ever submit to a man before your husband?

08:01:21.240 No.

08:01:21.380 Or was he the...

08:01:21.940 Oh, really?

08:01:22.500 Okay.

08:01:23.320 No.

08:01:23.800 Interesting.

08:01:24.000 Never gave.

08:01:24.940 I think it's also like naturally you want to do things for them.

08:01:28.040 Like he doesn't even have to ask me of anything.

08:01:30.420 Right.

08:01:30.840 Like I'm already doing it, you know?

08:01:33.540 Being proactive and anticipating your man's needs.

08:01:36.580 Yeah.

08:01:36.880 Husband's needs.

08:01:37.580 Yeah.

08:01:38.100 But it only works, you guys.

08:01:40.440 Submission only works, like you're saying, if he's a good guy who's taking care of you

08:01:45.900 back.

08:01:46.300 So, this idea of just submissive in general, if you're doing that with a controlling egomaniac...

08:01:52.140 That's how I feel.

08:01:53.120 And it's...

08:01:53.940 Then you're being submissive is not...

08:01:57.540 That's not creating a healthy relationship.

08:02:00.140 Yeah.

08:02:00.260 But what you're talking about, your husband's probably a wonderful guy because it sounds

08:02:04.200 like you're very happy and it's working really well.

08:02:06.220 I don't think there's any problem with being submissive to a good guy who loves and respects

08:02:13.460 you and is taking care of you back.

08:02:15.300 I think like if you want to be submissive and he respects you and takes good care of you

08:02:22.500 back and that's a dynamic that works for you guys, that's beautiful.

08:02:25.400 But submission just across the board with any...

08:02:29.320 He better be a good guy is what I'm saying because if you put yourself in that role with

08:02:33.420 a guy who is comfortable taking advantage of you or is egocentric and not taking care

08:02:43.280 of you back, well then I can't imagine how that would be a happy, fulfilling relationship.

08:02:47.020 Well, it wouldn't be submission.

08:02:48.440 It would be like a power struggle in that sense.

08:02:50.480 Yeah.

08:02:50.720 And I think a lot of women will say things like, my husband's just not a good leader.

08:02:55.000 I can't trust him.

08:02:55.940 He just can't make good decisions.

08:02:57.240 But they've never actually let him lead and like actually submitted.

08:03:01.880 And they think that submission is something that is earned when it is given through the

08:03:07.500 covenant of marriage.

08:03:09.260 So you just submit to your husband because you trust that God blessed you with that husband

08:03:13.880 and you trust God and trust that...

08:03:16.140 Well, hopefully he's a good one.

08:03:17.500 Yeah.

08:03:17.720 Is there any reality where that man isn't living up to that standard of like leading

08:03:22.480 actually and like you're letting him do it, but he's just not like...

08:03:25.780 I will say that beginning of our marriage, there were a couple of decisions my husband

08:03:30.680 made a mistake on.

08:03:31.860 And I think that they're human.

08:03:34.480 They're going to make mistakes.

08:03:35.660 What were the mistakes?

08:03:37.000 Off the top of my head, like one was financial.

08:03:40.980 Like we sold one of the cars and it...

08:03:43.520 I don't know.

08:03:43.980 In the end, like one of...

08:03:45.260 It actually ended up being okay.

08:03:47.040 But at the time we were considering, but ultimately I gave the decision to him.

08:03:53.020 That's like one I can think of off the top of my head, but the other one was probably

08:03:56.380 smaller.

08:03:57.840 But yeah, I would say that the goal is for them to learn from that mistake and then to

08:04:04.020 grow from it.

08:04:05.020 Especially like me getting married so young, we're still figuring out life together.

08:04:09.080 So I don't expect every single decision to be perfect, but I trust him to make that decision

08:04:14.240 and then to pivot if it's...

08:04:16.000 Would there have ever been a breaking point for you if he kept kind of making those mistakes

08:04:20.060 that wasn't seeming to learn from them?

08:04:22.500 Is there a breaking point for you or...

08:04:23.700 What do you mean by breaking point?

08:04:24.760 Like would you stick it out and just hope?

08:04:27.560 Like divorce?

08:04:29.980 Or what do you mean by breaking point?

08:04:30.740 Whatever you would consider like, I don't know, taking time apart or sitting him down

08:04:34.720 and being like, hey, seriously, we need to consider making better decisions rather than

08:04:39.520 just letting him mess up.

08:04:40.680 Like what would...

08:04:41.680 I guess what would be your divorce breaking point?

08:04:44.280 Like how many times would he have to...

08:04:46.400 Divorce isn't an option for me under any circumstance in my marriage.

08:04:51.300 Even if he cheated on you?

08:04:52.560 Yeah, I wouldn't leave him. 0.99

08:04:55.560 Damn, that's crazy. 0.99

08:04:56.740 You know, my husband wouldn't cheat on me. 0.99

08:04:59.260 That's just something we... 1.00

08:05:00.360 You're a bad bitch. 1.00

08:05:01.160 I will say that. 1.00

08:05:01.880 Like I called you a bitch earlier, but I meant like I say bitch to everyone. 1.00

08:05:04.320 So I like if you took it to August 1st, you're like very bad bitch vibes. 1.00

08:05:08.680 Like if a man cheated on you, you would tolerate? 0.99

08:05:11.520 Not any...

08:05:12.120 My husband.

08:05:12.760 If it was a boyfriend, I'd leave.

08:05:13.860 No, I feel like you're...

08:05:14.860 I know you're a man.

08:05:15.660 Like you're a husband.

08:05:16.440 If he cheated on you, you would tolerate it?

08:05:18.500 It would be extremely hard to get through.

08:05:20.480 I think that that would be probably the hardest thing I went through in my marriage,

08:05:23.480 but I don't believe in ending a marriage.

08:05:26.240 What if it was reoccurring infidelity?

08:05:29.660 I mean, we'd have an issue there.

08:05:32.020 Like, but yeah, I wouldn't leave my husband.

08:05:34.220 Even if he did it multiple times.

08:05:36.500 Yeah, I wouldn't leave my husband.

08:05:39.060 I think women should fold laundry on the first date. 1.00

08:05:42.300 Right? 1.00

08:05:42.800 What the fuck? 0.99

08:05:43.700 I think men should show that they're capable of folding an article of clothing on the first date. 1.00

08:05:48.400 We have a perfect girl.

08:05:49.640 I know how to do laundry.

08:05:51.660 You disagree?

08:05:52.340 I disagree that women... 1.00

08:05:53.600 Why is that?

08:05:54.160 I think in a dating relationship, like boyfriend-girlfriend, you shouldn't be doing too many wifey things for him before marriage

08:06:02.900 because they're supposed to earn.

08:06:04.800 And I'm not saying that you shouldn't do anything.

08:06:06.720 I cooked for my boyfriend when we were dating all the time.

08:06:09.740 Like, I cooked for him.

08:06:10.980 I maybe did his laundry once.

08:06:12.880 But when you live as you're married before you actually get married, you're prematurely submitting to that man.

08:06:19.120 And it's also like that saying, what is it?

08:06:21.380 If you get the milk for free, why would you buy the cow?

08:06:24.200 Like, then he has no incentive to propose.

08:06:26.640 Well, isn't that related to sex?

08:06:30.180 Yes and no, I think.

08:06:31.000 I guess she's relating it to other things.

08:06:32.200 I'm relating it to other things.

08:06:33.420 You're dating to get married, so you're going to practice being married.

08:06:36.140 I suppose it could be related to other things, but it's kind of...

08:06:38.360 Yeah.

08:06:38.460 That's really always that analogy, I guess, has always been about sex.

08:06:42.260 When you speak about that, it comes from sex, but she's saying it could be about that, too.

08:06:46.360 Yeah, but I don't think...

08:06:47.440 Like, would y'all be cool if a guy...

08:06:49.860 It's like this conditional femininity.

08:06:52.740 So y'all will say, well, in order for me to be submissive and feminine and all these traits or whatever,

08:07:01.100 I need to meet the right man first who I feel safe doing that with.

08:07:06.060 Now, I'm not saying that you should be submissive to any guy,

08:07:10.120 but this idea that you're going to be like this super masculine woman,

08:07:15.540 but then wait until you're in a safe environment with a guy to be feminine, 1.00

08:07:22.380 is crazy in the same way that if the guy said something like,

08:07:26.880 well, you know, I am a masculine man, and I am a leader, and I am a provider, and I am a protector,

08:07:33.200 but I'm only that way until I feel safe enough to do so with a specific woman.

08:07:42.260 It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

08:07:46.720 Are you...

08:07:47.760 A lot of men say that.

08:07:48.960 Is that towards my argument about, like, or what exactly...

08:07:52.400 Well, you're saying, like, well, I need to hold back certain things like being submissive,

08:07:57.240 or I don't know what the other things are, until we're married.

08:07:59.700 And so, to me, it's just this weird conditional, but, like, men can't get away with that.

08:08:05.260 Men can't say, well, I'm really dominant and masculine and a leader and assertive,

08:08:10.800 but until then, I'm going to be feminine, and I'm going to be not assertive,

08:08:17.520 and I'm not going to be a leader until I feel safe enough to do so with the woman.

08:08:23.640 It wouldn't even get far enough.

08:08:25.160 You wouldn't even get far enough in a relationship with a woman if you're not willing to do all those things on the front end, up front. 0.95

08:08:33.160 So, I think in the same way that women expect men to do these things up front, I think women should do the things up front, too.

08:08:40.700 Well, let me revert it back to men real quick, because I think the same for men. 0.73

08:08:43.380 I don't think men should be providing fully for a woman while they're dating. 0.99

08:08:47.820 Like, I don't think that he should be putting a roof over her head or getting her pregnant or whatever else, you know, a husband does in a marriage.

08:08:55.800 So, I'm not saying hold everything back, but I'm saying there's something about marriage that makes it so sacred,

08:09:01.060 and when you give pieces of yourself to people that are not your husband and wife, for women, of course,

08:09:06.800 like, it lowers their chance of pair bonding with their husband.

08:09:09.700 And also, I think it creates resentment for women if they're prematurely submitting in a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, 0.80

08:09:16.500 because they don't have a ring on their finger, so they don't have that safety provision and protection that they would have in marriage.

08:09:22.920 But it's like, oh, I'm already giving you, you know, submission as your wife, but you haven't made me your wife yet. 0.83

08:09:29.640 Does that make sense?

08:09:30.640 I mean, I think the trade-off would be giving him kids.

08:09:32.900 I don't know if just – so, what – if you're not being submissive, what are you being?

08:09:37.840 Quarrelsome and nagging and –

08:09:39.340 No, no, no.

08:09:39.980 Difficult?

08:09:40.380 When I say the word submissive, like, submission, speaking boyfriend-girlfriend,

08:09:46.360 I mean, like, it's not the same type of submission you would have with your husband.

08:09:52.420 Like, you can still be feminine.

08:09:53.840 You can still be nurturing.

08:09:55.020 You can still be a caretaker, but not living as husband and wife.

08:09:59.980 Sure.

08:10:00.480 Why don't you marry to date, since you were talking about, like, divorce isn't an option for you, 0.97

08:10:05.780 and then also you're saying, like, if there's a boyfriend and girlfriend situation,

08:10:09.340 he shouldn't be 100% providing, and she shouldn't be 100% submissive.

08:10:15.120 Wait, what do you mean by that?

08:10:16.400 Oh, you mean because I said date to marry?

08:10:18.660 Yeah.

08:10:19.080 Why isn't it, like, in Islam where you do marry to date, where you marry and you stay with that woman or husband? 0.97

08:10:27.200 I mean, I would prefer it that way.

08:10:28.640 I just think that this is how, like, that's how we are in the West, where you date for a long time.

08:10:34.460 When I say date to marry and that nobody dates to marry anymore, I don't, I think, like, especially around our age,

08:10:41.040 it's just like, oh, just let me, let's date for fun.

08:10:43.240 Like, let me go on, you know, five dates a month and hook up with these guys and let's just have fun.

08:10:48.780 But to me, like, I was always looking for my husband through dating.

08:10:53.160 Like, I would never want to just waste my time.

08:10:56.120 Yeah, I understand that.

08:10:56.140 So I want to get back to the bow thing right here really quick, though.

08:11:00.060 And again, I think the woman should do the laundry, first date, do the laundry, clean the house, first date, immediately, hit the bow, boom. 1.00

08:11:08.940 But everybody here raised their hand when they want the guy to pay for the first date, right?

08:11:14.640 Everybody here raised their hand?

08:11:15.660 Well, besides you, but you did.

08:11:18.140 So what's the most expensive first date you've ever been on, Jazz?

08:11:21.960 First date?

08:11:22.840 Yeah, like maybe 50 bucks, 100 bucks.

08:11:24.800 What do you think?

08:11:25.320 200 bucks?

08:11:26.780 Maybe like 150.

08:11:29.180 150.

08:11:29.860 And he paid the whole bill?

08:11:31.060 Yes.

08:11:31.840 Okay.

08:11:32.700 And you had an expectation that he paid it, right?

08:11:38.160 Yeah, but he's that type of person, too.

08:11:40.300 Right.

08:11:40.800 Yeah.

08:11:41.460 But I don't understand when it comes to this expectation.

08:11:44.860 So if we're looking at it in practical terms.

08:11:47.780 I would have been fine splitting the bill, but he's the type of guy that is like, you know.

08:11:51.440 Well, you could have insisted.

08:11:53.100 Why would you split the bill?

08:11:53.900 Sure, but if he had asked, I'm not going to be like, no.

08:11:58.140 Did he ask on the date?

08:11:59.220 No.

08:11:59.780 Okay, but hold on.

08:12:00.640 We're getting off topic here.

08:12:01.520 So to bring it back, all of you, except for her, I guess, all of you have the expectation

08:12:06.940 that the guy should pay for the first date.

08:12:08.340 Let's say that a typical first date, let's just say it's 100 bucks, right?

08:12:13.280 You know, decent place, a drink or two, dessert, whatever.

08:12:17.780 Let's say it's 100 bucks.

08:12:18.580 Maybe it's cheaper, 50 bucks.

08:12:20.180 If the guy pays for the whole thing, here's what you're asking of him.

08:12:24.300 Let's say he works, and I know some of you are probably dating men who make more than

08:12:27.960 this, but you're 23, right?

08:12:31.080 So I don't know.

08:12:31.780 You could be dating a guy who works a retail job.

08:12:34.600 You could be dating a guy who's also in college.

08:12:35.960 This guy did own his own business.

08:12:37.960 Right, but you would still have this expectation on the other guys who are also in college.

08:12:41.980 Maybe they make $20 an hour. 0.97

08:12:43.600 Let's say he works a construction job and he makes $20 an hour.

08:12:47.500 When you women say, I want a guy to pay for the first date, you're saying, and let's say 1.00

08:12:53.160 the first date costs $100, I want you to physically labor for five hours so you can pay for my 1.00

08:12:59.660 shit. 1.00

08:13:00.720 That's what you're saying when you say, I want men to pay for the first date. 1.00

08:13:03.740 We'll split that in half because I didn't eat his food.

08:13:05.640 When I ask you to do this, and it takes you three seconds to do, it takes no effort.

08:13:10.540 You don't break a sweat.

08:13:11.940 You want men to pay for first dates. 1.00

08:13:13.420 A lot of men are in, they're in blue collar jobs.

08:13:16.900 They're working dirty, dangerous, disgusting jobs.

08:13:19.300 You're suggesting that doing the dishes and laundry isn't labor?

08:13:21.600 Well, I'm speaking specifically about the bow, but I would, I would even further argue

08:13:26.940 that, uh, doing the laundry takes like, okay, you put in the machine, then you fold it 10,

08:13:33.160 20 minutes tops clean.

08:13:35.020 I mean, cleaning the house.

08:13:36.020 That's a very, that's, that's a little different.

08:13:37.880 You know, that's a little, that could be a bit more intensive, but what I'm trying to

08:13:41.640 get out here in a, as it relates to the objections to the bow, that takes three seconds, no effort.

08:13:48.120 You don't break a sweat when you ask a guy to pay for the first date and he works a construction

08:13:55.040 job, gets paid maybe $20 an hour.

08:13:59.980 You're asking them to work five hours, two and a half hours.

08:14:04.020 You're not asking.

08:14:05.300 Okay, fine.

08:14:05.860 Fine.

08:14:06.180 Sure.

08:14:06.560 Because he's paying for his own.

08:14:08.400 Fine.

08:14:08.840 He's, he's working two and a half hours.

08:14:11.280 Yeah.

08:14:11.540 A bow takes three seconds.

08:14:14.280 So, so why is it fair for y'all to say, I want a man, assuming he works a physically 1.00

08:14:19.500 laborious job to physically labor for two and a half hours?

08:14:24.580 Why is it fair for you to say on the first date that a woman should clean your house and 1.00

08:14:28.340 fold your laundry?

08:14:29.120 It's the same.

08:14:29.980 I'm a, I'm a, I'm a take care of everything.

08:14:31.660 Okay.

08:14:31.880 Then that's the same standard.

08:14:33.220 I expect you to pay the bill.

08:14:34.460 If you're expecting me to do your laundry and clean the house, we're putting the same standard

08:14:37.900 on it.

08:14:38.160 Sure.

08:14:38.360 Why would you do the laundry for a guy you barely, you don't even know?

08:14:41.260 You have to go on a date to find out what he's like.

08:14:43.220 It also like shows in his office.

08:14:44.320 Are you going to like take her home and say, do my laundry? 0.95

08:14:46.920 No, here's what I do.

08:14:47.840 Here's the move.

08:14:48.480 Here's the move.

08:14:49.240 Right.

08:14:49.600 I wouldn't be single by the way.

08:14:51.040 Here's the move.

08:14:51.740 Here's the move. 1.00

08:14:52.300 I just met you, washed my fucking socks. 1.00

08:14:54.160 Have you had a girl do that? 1.00

08:14:54.980 I'll bow if you take me to dinner.

08:14:57.280 Yeah.

08:14:58.000 So look, here's the move.

08:14:59.420 I'll, I'll tell you the move.

08:15:00.340 I'm going to put you guys on some game.

08:15:01.820 Okay.

08:15:02.200 I'm going to put you guys on some game.

08:15:03.400 Here it is.

08:15:07.900 Girl comes over and you're like, oh, let me give you the tour of the house. 1.00

08:15:11.880 And then that tour ends in the laundry room.

08:15:15.160 And then you just look at her.

08:15:16.820 You look at the laundry machine.

08:15:18.460 You look back at her.

08:15:19.920 Maybe you glance back at the laundry machine.

08:15:22.300 Now I'm a nice guy, right?

08:15:23.680 I've already put the clothes in.

08:15:25.120 So it's, it's wet.

08:15:26.220 She needs to, or well, it's, it was washed already. 1.00

08:15:29.140 She just has to transfer it to the dryer. 0.96

08:15:32.840 She's got to transfer it to the dryer and then she has to fold it.

08:15:35.500 Right.

08:15:36.060 So I, you know, or you know what?

08:15:37.580 Sometimes I'm really nice.

08:15:38.520 I already put in the dryer.

08:15:39.720 It's done.

08:15:40.500 It's dry.

08:15:41.060 It's ready to fold.

08:15:42.040 So she just needs to fold it.

08:15:43.480 She has to put your clothes in the dryer. 1.00

08:15:44.980 Cause you paid for her spaghetti and meatballs. 1.00

08:15:47.140 That's what you're saying.

08:15:47.780 That's exactly.

08:15:48.200 First date is wild.

08:15:49.740 You're very, Carla.

08:15:50.640 That's a good observation.

08:15:52.000 So.

08:15:52.320 That's crazy.

08:15:53.200 Where's Charlie?

08:15:53.740 Hold on.

08:15:54.160 Hold on.

08:15:54.660 And so here's what you do.

08:15:56.400 And then you just look at her.

08:15:57.600 You don't even need to say anything.

08:15:58.720 And then you just, you look at the, the, the dryer, you look back at her and then you

08:16:04.660 walk out of the laundry room.

08:16:05.760 And then she starts, yes, on the first date.

08:16:08.620 And then she starts folding it.

08:16:09.840 No one's going to do that for you.

08:16:11.040 How long does it take?

08:16:11.360 Even she's saying it's weird.

08:16:12.380 And like, she's like a.

08:16:12.900 I would never go.

08:16:13.980 Well, first of all, I wouldn't go to a guy's house. 1.00

08:16:16.000 I'm not surprised.

08:16:16.540 I'm not surprised by her answer.

08:16:17.560 I am.

08:16:18.100 She's like very like, I, from her answers this whole time, like I'm surprised that she's

08:16:22.760 saying that.

08:16:23.220 But I'm also logical.

08:16:24.680 Like, I'm not going to go home with a guy on the, after the first date.

08:16:27.760 And then he looks at his laundry and I'm like, I'm touching your dirty underwear.

08:16:32.320 Like we just met.

08:16:33.160 Did you do that for your man?

08:16:34.380 Look, I'm a nice guy.

08:16:35.300 It was already dry.

08:16:35.900 Yeah.

08:16:36.120 Like when did you start doing it for your man?

08:16:37.880 Oh, I don't know.

08:16:39.140 Um, I mean, I did his laundry a couple of times while we were dating, but.

08:16:42.500 Like at what point though?

08:16:45.120 Um, I don't know.

08:16:46.100 Maybe like a few months.

08:16:46.900 She also has to make me a quilt. 0.83

08:16:48.260 What? 0.99

08:16:48.820 Brian, what the fuck are these? 1.00

08:16:50.520 Wait, I have a question. 0.99

08:16:51.420 Here's my compromise. 1.00

08:16:52.100 And some fucking moccasins. 1.00

08:16:54.080 How? 1.00

08:16:54.440 If she doesn't know how to make moccasins. 1.00

08:16:55.600 Okay.

08:16:56.220 Now you're trolling.

08:16:56.840 Hold up.

08:16:57.320 He's trolling, everybody.

08:16:58.620 If she doesn't know how to make moccasins, find someone who will. 1.00

08:17:03.740 If she won't find somebody who will.

08:17:07.100 Mm-hmm.

08:17:07.520 That part.

08:17:08.120 Brian wants a unicorn, everybody. 1.00

08:17:10.080 He wants a fucking unicorn. 1.00

08:17:10.760 She should, she should knit me a cardigan. 1.00

08:17:13.040 Brian.

08:17:13.720 If she doesn't knit me a cardigan on the first date. 0.81

08:17:17.500 That's the one.

08:17:18.200 What if?

08:17:18.840 What if?

08:17:19.300 Here's my compromise.

08:17:20.180 First date, she brings you homemade banana bread.

08:17:24.100 Yeah.

08:17:24.620 You pay for dinner.

08:17:25.660 Does that have like little chocolate chips in it?

08:17:28.220 If you want it.

08:17:29.300 Yeah.

08:17:29.520 Yeah.

08:17:29.980 Yeah.

08:17:30.280 I'm down with that.

08:17:30.780 I feel like that's more of like, I'm feminine.

08:17:32.980 I know how to cook.

08:17:34.040 Here's your banana bread, but I'm not coming over to do your lunch.

08:17:37.300 I'm more of a cookie guy.

08:17:37.620 I'm a chocolate chip cookie guy.

08:17:38.740 Oh my God.

08:17:39.120 My mom saw a clip tonight.

08:17:41.100 How does your mom see that?

08:17:42.540 Oh, sorry.

08:17:43.360 She's not going to be.

08:17:45.340 Shh.

08:17:45.880 Non-sequitur.

08:17:46.980 Shh.

08:17:47.240 Um, yeah, so I, look, I'm just saying, I'm just, look, and I'm going to give you.

08:17:52.960 Brian wants a unicorn, everybody.

08:17:54.220 How long does it take you to get ready for a first date?

08:17:58.360 Hours.

08:17:59.300 Hours.

08:17:59.660 No.

08:18:00.520 To look like.

08:18:01.320 I know where this is going.

08:18:02.440 You think this is an accident?

08:18:03.760 Yeah, exactly.

08:18:04.440 Yes.

08:18:04.540 You think this is an accident, son?

08:18:06.680 You hopped in the shower.

08:18:07.320 I'm going to show you this a four-way.

08:18:08.700 This is premeditated, baby.

08:18:10.540 Yeah.

08:18:10.880 This is premeditated right here.

08:18:12.280 You think, you think, you know, it's a lot of work.

08:18:15.900 Barely groomed.

08:18:16.840 You put on your big labia matter, it took hours? 0.92

08:18:19.440 Okay. 0.82

08:18:20.080 Yo, I gotta, I gotta get the beards all going. 0.99

08:18:22.780 Do you genuinely love big labia, or is it just like a troll mechanism? 0.99

08:18:26.280 I only date women with large labia. 1.00

08:18:27.600 I think you're fucking trolling. 1.00

08:18:29.060 I only date, I refuse to date an enemy. 1.00

08:18:31.000 So like, on a first date, you're like, hey, what are your labia length?

08:18:35.520 Yeah, sure, I'll ask.

08:18:36.560 Kind of like how a woman could be like, hey, what's your bank account? 1.00

08:18:38.840 Is that equivalent?

08:18:40.280 Yeah, probably.

08:18:41.200 So asking a girl's labia length is equivalent to asking the bank account if a girl were to

08:18:46.820 ask, like, how much money is in your bank account?

08:18:50.000 Well, I'd actually be more likely to just ask her body count.

08:18:54.760 Because the labia thing is not the deal breaker.

08:18:56.340 Are you going to wear that on a date?

08:18:57.980 Probably not.

08:18:58.860 Okay.

08:18:59.200 I've only worn this two times.

08:19:00.440 Yeah, you would.

08:19:01.360 I wouldn't wear it.

08:19:01.920 She says you would.

08:19:03.520 They were like, I'm a big fan of the show.

08:19:05.560 I wouldn't wear it.

08:19:05.940 Do girls know, like, what you advocate for when you go on a date with them? 0.92

08:19:09.500 Do they know, like, what you're...

08:19:11.100 Do you link your podcast in your...

08:19:13.500 Yeah, do they know, like, about you?

08:19:15.520 Bro, I have not been on dating apps in a while.

08:19:18.320 No, I'm not talking about dating apps.

08:19:19.660 I'm just talking about, like, general dating.

08:19:22.360 What about it?

08:19:23.380 Like...

08:19:23.740 You can't look at...

08:19:24.560 Do they know who you are?

08:19:26.420 Like, do you meet girls, like, on a...

08:19:28.900 Like, in random...

08:19:30.140 I don't reveal...

08:19:30.660 So, I'm not going to reveal my relationship status, but I can tell you this.

08:19:32.920 That's not revealing your relationship status.

08:19:34.380 Well, I'll tell you this is...

08:19:35.800 So, I'll just say this.

08:19:38.480 I've been doing content for a minute, but since I've started the podcast, I don't date

08:19:42.600 like normal people. 0.98

08:19:43.420 So, some of this shit, I say, you got to understand. 0.99

08:19:47.500 Like, don't get me wrong. 0.99

08:19:50.040 The way I used to date was, like, the old way.

08:19:53.440 What's the old way? 0.83

08:19:54.120 Oh, like, I'd be taking initiative, or I'd be messaging them on the dating app, or I'd,

08:19:58.060 like, you know, when I was younger, I'd see a girl at a party, and I'd say, hey, what's

08:20:02.140 up?

08:20:02.600 Huh?

08:20:03.000 Now, girls message you. 1.00

08:20:03.900 Yeah, exactly.

08:20:04.840 So, I only pick...

08:20:05.780 Interesting.

08:20:06.420 I've only picked among the girls who contact me first.

08:20:09.680 That's kind of...

08:20:11.160 Oh, that's interesting.

08:20:12.240 Okay.

08:20:12.560 Yeah.

08:20:12.840 Hmm.

08:20:13.600 So, you don't, like, go out to a restaurant or, like, a bar or a club, and, like, you don't

08:20:17.400 approach girls.

08:20:18.240 When I was younger, oh, yeah, I...

08:20:19.800 So, the girls you only date now are girls that hit you up. 0.72

08:20:23.140 Yeah.

08:20:24.120 It's a way better dynamic, trust me.

08:20:26.680 Why?

08:20:27.100 Can you, like, elaborate on that?

08:20:28.120 Because I'm...

08:20:28.780 This is interesting.

08:20:29.940 They've, like, just pre-selected for me.

08:20:33.160 He already knows they're interested in it.

08:20:34.440 They're already...

08:20:34.940 Yeah.

08:20:35.640 Because they know it's you.

08:20:36.080 And it's just, like, I...

08:20:37.400 It's this interesting role reversal, because it's...

08:20:40.560 I mean, when I was younger, it was the total opposite.

08:20:42.800 Most women don't approach or hit on men. 1.00

08:20:45.460 So, yeah, it's just a way better position to be in, I guess.

08:20:50.100 I don't...

08:20:50.740 Yeah.

08:20:51.220 Wow.

08:20:51.820 Hmm.

08:20:52.040 Yeah.

08:20:54.080 Interesting.

08:20:54.620 Okay.

08:20:55.300 Yep.

08:20:55.980 So...

08:20:56.580 I can't relate.

08:20:58.340 So, yes.

08:20:59.820 The girls I've dated... 0.75

08:21:00.640 People I've met like that are weirdos.

08:21:02.880 They reached out to me.

08:21:04.560 You don't think they're weirdos, though?

08:21:06.040 Like...

08:21:06.260 Some of them are, sure.

08:21:07.820 That's what I'm saying.

08:21:08.800 Like, you don't...

08:21:09.040 But then I don't date them.

08:21:11.000 You have to, like...

08:21:11.580 But there are, like, plenty of good ones that are like, hey, Brian, I really align with

08:21:15.180 all your values.

08:21:16.180 Here's, like...

08:21:16.780 Here's, like, my girlfriend application.

08:21:20.580 That's a way better dynamic.

08:21:21.760 Wait, what is the...

08:21:22.280 Wait, hold on.

08:21:22.800 What is the girlfriend application? 0.62

08:21:23.780 Oh, I don't...

08:21:24.600 I don't have a girlfriend application, but they'll literally tell me about themselves and

08:21:28.540 be like, hey, Brian, I've heard you say X, Y, Z on the podcast.

08:21:31.520 I fully agree with everything you say or most of what you say.

08:21:35.520 Love bombing.

08:21:36.120 I want to see one of these DMs.

08:21:37.620 I'm so curious.

08:21:38.720 No, I don't not believe you.

08:21:41.820 I just, like, I'm so curious what these girls... 1.00

08:21:44.220 I was about to say how is...

08:21:45.520 What are these girls saying to you? 1.00

08:21:47.200 I'll just say this.

08:21:47.780 Before I started the podcast, I was on dating apps.

08:21:49.880 That's how I was meeting girls.

08:21:51.780 Shortly after I started the podcast, stopped the dating apps, and it was just people coming

08:21:55.420 to me.

08:21:56.620 So...

08:21:57.060 Interesting.

08:21:57.920 Yeah.

08:21:58.440 Wow. 1.00

08:21:59.100 So the conclusion is podcasts are a pussy magnet. 1.00

08:22:02.280 Well, no, I mean, that's not what I'm saying. 0.99

08:22:04.520 Ben, if you want, bitches, start a podcast. 1.00

08:22:06.400 That's not what I'm saying, but in the same way that... 0.98

08:22:07.760 Brian here.

08:22:08.400 But, like, all you girls here, you get a bunch of guys that come to you.

08:22:12.160 Like, it probably doesn't cross your mind, like, oh, okay, I'm going to be the one to

08:22:17.000 go out to the bar and go approach that dude.

08:22:19.760 I'm going to make all the effort.

08:22:21.640 No.

08:22:21.920 So I'm, like, I'm basically doing what y'all do.

08:22:25.800 You attract.

08:22:26.720 You don't chase.

08:22:27.380 Maybe.

08:22:27.920 Oh, yeah.

08:22:28.540 You attract.

08:22:28.940 I feel like you have to as, like, somebody in the public sphere, though, because otherwise,

08:22:34.400 like you said, it's just harder because you have to explain your values to everybody except...

08:22:39.200 But isn't chasing a masculine trait?

08:22:42.100 Isn't it masculine to chase, to pursue?

08:22:44.820 Oh, I've done that a bunch.

08:22:46.140 Yeah.

08:22:46.660 But by not doing that, you're not in your masculine then, are you?

08:22:50.320 Well, I think one thing I found when women do initiate, it's totally token initiative. 1.00

08:22:54.840 So they'll, like, send a...

08:22:56.080 Oftentimes when they message, too, sometimes they're direct, as I explained it, but a lot

08:23:00.180 of times they're kind of just like, oh, hey, can I be on the podcast?

08:23:04.600 And then, like, a couple messages later, it's like, oh, never mind.

08:23:07.820 I just wanted to talk to you.

08:23:09.220 What?

08:23:09.920 So sometimes they're indirect with it, but... 1.00

08:23:14.460 Do you fuck them the first time? 1.00

08:23:16.160 Hold on. 1.00

08:23:16.620 I'm not...

08:23:16.920 Hey, I don't...

08:23:17.320 He's not going to answer that.

08:23:18.860 I don't kiss and tell, but what I'll tell you this is...

08:23:21.240 Okay, all right.

08:23:21.660 I know.

08:23:22.080 You don't tell your body count.

08:23:23.000 I know.

08:23:23.820 Sure.

08:23:24.660 So...

08:23:24.980 I know.

08:23:25.280 I've watched.

08:23:26.260 So it's like the initiative that when women do take initiative, it's a very token. 0.95

08:23:31.640 So it's like they'll start the conversation, and then the conversational burden basically

08:23:36.160 immediately shifts back to the guy anyways.

08:23:39.740 So, like, yeah, they send the first message, but I'm going to be the one leading it forward

08:23:45.060 from there anyways.

08:23:46.940 So, I don't know if that's...

08:23:48.180 Yeah.

08:23:48.260 Hmm.

08:23:48.940 Yeah. 1.00

08:23:51.160 Damn. 1.00

08:23:51.760 Okay. 1.00

08:23:53.540 Girls... 1.00

08:23:53.940 I don't think I've ever revealed that, actually.

08:23:55.500 If you want to date Brian, just slide into his DMs.

08:23:58.780 Slide into his DMs and tell him that you...

08:24:01.440 Oh, I wanted to give the girls some game, though. 0.93

08:24:03.420 So I know you hate the bow, but look, or at least some of these submissive things or whatever,

08:24:07.820 or even the laundry.

08:24:09.280 And it doesn't have to be the first date, but the first time you go to the guy's house. 0.99

08:24:12.740 I'm fucking telling you. 0.96

08:24:14.480 I know you're going to hate this, but the first... 0.98

08:24:16.640 Again, it doesn't have to be the first date, but the first time you're at the dude's house,

08:24:20.140 just go and fold his laundry unprompted. 1.00

08:24:24.620 Fuck no. 1.00

08:24:25.160 Or ask him, can I do your laundry? 1.00

08:24:27.040 I know that that sounds bad.

08:24:29.440 Why are you giving... 1.00

08:24:30.200 The guy will fucking love you. 0.99

08:24:32.500 No, he doesn't. 0.99

08:24:33.280 And if you guys are struggling as women...

08:24:35.160 He doesn't.

08:24:35.960 Hold on.

08:24:36.440 If you guys are struggling as women to lock down a dude or get...

08:24:41.200 Why not try it?

08:24:42.560 Like, what actual harm would it do?

08:24:44.900 No.

08:24:45.080 It won't do any harm.

08:24:46.860 No.

08:24:47.220 And I think it'll go a long way to getting the guy.

08:24:50.140 And if that's your ultimate goal, to get the guy, be like...

08:24:53.380 Do you think women just like doing laundry? 1.00

08:24:55.960 It doesn't...

08:24:57.000 It's service.

08:24:57.780 Do you think I like...

08:24:59.040 He thinks he's giving advice that's not good advice.

08:25:01.040 I hear women are watching. 1.00

08:25:01.900 It's really good advice.

08:25:02.820 No, it's not.

08:25:03.600 It's actually really good advice.

08:25:04.840 To get a man that only sees value when you fold his clothes. 1.00

08:25:06.540 No, it has nothing to do with it. 0.99

08:25:07.740 They don't give a fuck. 0.99

08:25:08.580 They think you're just a doorknob if you do that. 1.00

08:25:10.140 No, it's going to set you aside from every other woman. 1.00

08:25:14.260 No, you're just going to remember one.

08:25:14.840 Any girl can fold your laundry. 1.00

08:25:16.880 Yes.

08:25:17.080 Yeah.

08:25:17.500 Sure.

08:25:18.000 Any girl can fold your laundry. 1.00

08:25:19.500 I promise you they would rather have you fold their laundry than talk to them about

08:25:23.180 what you learned in psychology class that day.

08:25:25.820 Like, men are just very...

08:25:27.280 They're simple creatures.

08:25:28.420 They don't look down on you for doing their laundry.

08:25:31.000 I promise.

08:25:31.500 They're like, oh my God, this is...

08:25:33.060 It doesn't have to be a laundry.

08:25:36.040 You could try this.

08:25:37.020 No, they don't.

08:25:37.660 And I think that's condescending both.

08:25:40.140 No, no, no.

08:25:40.820 I'm not meaning to be condescending.

08:25:42.420 You got to understand.

08:25:43.360 For some dudes, if that's all they're looking for, you said S their D.

08:25:48.180 Oh, sorry.

08:25:48.720 That's not going to keep a dude around.

08:25:50.440 Trust me.

08:25:51.140 Oh, it does.

08:25:51.620 It does wonders.

08:25:52.540 And y'all women have been there.

08:25:53.180 Trust me.

08:25:53.840 Y'all have been there dealing with a dude and you're giving them everything sexually. 1.00

08:25:57.780 And it's not enough to keep him.

08:25:59.500 It's not enough to keep him.

08:26:01.020 You got to do something. 1.00

08:26:02.100 Because all the other women are offering pussy in their mouth. 1.00

08:26:05.060 You got to do some other shit if you want the guy. 1.00

08:26:07.680 And look, you might not like it, but I'm just being honest with you. 1.00

08:26:10.140 And I'm giving you some fucking game. 0.98

08:26:12.260 You are not giving me game. 1.00

08:26:13.520 He is.

08:26:14.220 I'm sad as a salon.

08:26:15.800 I agree with him.

08:26:16.380 It doesn't have to even be laundry.

08:26:17.780 I agree with him. 0.99

08:26:17.900 Bring him like, cut him some watermelon or some fruit or some shit. 0.99

08:26:21.460 I'll bake hummus for my house. 0.98

08:26:23.080 Yeah.

08:26:23.500 Bake something.

08:26:24.120 Bring him some food.

08:26:25.360 Banana bread.

08:26:25.900 But I'm telling you.

08:26:27.340 I'm putting you on some game.

08:26:28.720 You got to set yourself apart from these other ladies. 0.99

08:26:32.200 Yeah.

08:26:32.580 I agree with some prayer.

08:26:34.580 You're right.

08:26:34.860 You make his bed.

08:26:36.120 You fold his little boxers.

08:26:37.680 No, no, no.

08:26:37.920 And then you leave.

08:26:39.100 That's it.

08:26:39.760 Period.

08:26:40.200 No, no, no.

08:26:40.520 He's in love.

08:26:41.500 Done.

08:26:41.940 No, but they can look at you as a doormat. 0.60

08:26:43.880 That sounds so easy.

08:26:44.500 It is.

08:26:44.720 That's not doormat activities.

08:26:46.700 That's literally my role in my marriage.

08:26:49.120 But did you do that initially for your man in the get?

08:26:52.380 If a girl came over.

08:26:53.260 I'm saying it's my role in my marriage.

08:26:54.680 My husband doesn't look down on me for doing the laundry.

08:26:57.380 For the first two days, did you do it?

08:26:58.160 No, that's y'all's dynamic.

08:26:59.280 In the get?

08:26:59.800 Well, that's why I told him I don't agree with first date.

08:27:02.420 But doing that is an act of service.

08:27:04.800 And I don't think a man is like, oh, she's my little slave. 0.86

08:27:07.920 Is that your love language?

08:27:08.900 Thank you, Arctic.

08:27:09.600 What?

08:27:10.660 What's your top love language?

08:27:12.420 Act of service?

08:27:13.980 Sorry, I know you hate this topic.

08:27:15.560 I'm just saying, do something.

08:27:17.480 Put yourself.

08:27:18.260 No.

08:27:18.320 Do something different. 1.00

08:27:19.940 Ladies, suck the dick so good that it fucking makes him go crazy. 1.00

08:27:23.720 You don't say please don't touch the dick. 1.00

08:27:25.640 I don't think if you're single, you shouldn't be giving advice on that. 1.00

08:27:28.680 No, because.

08:27:29.240 And don't touch that man. 1.00

08:27:30.540 You don't fuck them. 1.00

08:27:31.380 You suck the dick. 1.00

08:27:32.200 It's very different. 1.00

08:27:32.980 But wouldn't that make you more of a doormat? 1.00

08:27:34.280 No, because it's the ass. 1.00

08:27:36.000 All of us can suck your dick. 1.00

08:27:37.920 Come on. 1.00

08:27:38.400 Like, seriously.

08:27:38.960 We're all grownups.

08:27:40.440 It does.

08:27:40.980 That's a good question. 1.00

08:27:42.000 I've had guys ask me to be their girlfriend after I suck their dick multiple times. 1.00

08:27:45.560 I'm like, I'm not down. 1.00

08:27:46.660 I need to think about that one, actually.

08:27:47.580 Because you didn't fold their underwear.

08:27:49.360 No, they asked me to be their girlfriend.

08:27:50.780 I just didn't want to do it. 1.00

08:27:51.920 Like, fuck. 1.00

08:27:52.900 But that doesn't make you more of a doormat? 1.00

08:27:53.520 Yo, Natalia.

08:27:53.940 Thank you for the membership, Natalia.

08:27:54.920 Good to see you.

08:27:55.540 I don't get it. 1.00

08:27:56.280 No, because I like sucking dick. 1.00

08:27:57.780 It's. 1.00

08:27:57.820 Shh.

08:27:58.300 Stop.

08:27:58.740 Stop.

08:27:59.120 Stop.

08:27:59.160 Stop.

08:27:59.260 Stop.

08:27:59.320 Stop.

08:27:59.380 Stop.

08:27:59.400 Stop.

08:27:59.420 Stop.

08:27:59.520 Stop.

08:27:59.940 Stop.

08:28:00.040 Stop.

08:28:00.060 Stop.

08:28:00.120 Stop.

08:28:00.140 Stop.

08:28:00.180 Stop.

08:28:00.240 Stop.

08:28:00.680 Stop.

08:28:00.700 Stop.

08:28:00.980 Stop.

08:28:01.120 Stop.

08:28:01.140 Stop.

08:28:01.180 Stop.

08:28:02.120 Stop.

08:28:02.180 Stop.

08:28:02.640 Stop.

08:28:03.120 Stop.

08:28:04.120 Stop.

08:28:04.180 Stop. 0.99

08:28:17.580 Sex. 0.98

08:28:18.560 30 minutes. 0.81

08:28:19.540 An hour.

08:28:20.360 Maybe.

08:28:22.120 And then what about the other seven hours I'm with you?

08:28:26.240 I would hope that there would be meaningful conversation.

08:28:28.820 It harasses after.

08:28:29.400 That's usually what I look for.

08:28:30.560 On the first date, yeah.

08:28:31.800 Bro.

08:28:32.340 That's just me.

08:28:33.040 Bro.

08:28:33.720 Listen to me.

08:28:34.300 I have the best advice.

08:28:35.540 It's me, Felicity.

08:28:36.640 Trust me.

08:28:36.960 Don't listen.

08:28:37.420 I'll put you on some game, Felicity.

08:28:38.680 I have the best advice ever.

08:28:41.720 Yeah.

08:28:42.540 I'll try this.

08:28:43.300 Bro. 1.00

08:28:43.320 Suck his dick. 1.00

08:28:43.940 That's your advice? 1.00

08:28:44.880 That's not advice, bro.

08:28:45.840 No, no, no.

08:28:46.320 Don't.

08:28:46.640 That's what the ladies are already doing. 1.00

08:28:49.580 You either don't do anything. 1.00

08:28:51.660 You just act like you do anything or you do suck the dick so good that it's like, wow, 1.00

08:28:55.260 it makes them go crazy. 1.00

08:28:57.280 And then.

08:28:57.620 I'm going to do that.

08:28:57.960 Don't forget that.

08:28:58.660 That's so great, though.

08:28:59.360 No, they don't.

08:29:00.360 They literally.

08:29:00.780 It's like a little.

08:29:01.560 A level.

08:29:01.780 Because it's not like you're not having actual intercourse.

08:29:05.820 No, that's like folding clothes, but like to the extreme. 0.99

08:29:08.420 I think that giving a guy a head would actually make you seem like more of a doormat

08:29:12.480 than folding his laundry.

08:29:13.600 That's what I'm saying.

08:29:14.360 It's way more extreme.

08:29:16.020 I don't know.

08:29:16.360 I love it.

08:29:17.100 It's great.

08:29:18.160 But that's the thing is that.

08:29:19.340 I'm just different.

08:29:20.220 Yeah.

08:29:20.300 Women more. 1.00

08:29:20.660 I date different guys than you guys, too.

08:29:22.260 I.

08:29:22.580 Yeah. 0.99

08:29:22.960 Women more will more readily have a casual sexual encounter, like immediately have oral 1.00

08:29:28.160 sex, immediately have intercourse, but take 10, 15 minutes to fold his laundry. 0.99

08:29:34.600 That's so much effort. 0.99

08:29:35.340 I could never.

08:29:36.120 I'm impressed. 1.00

08:29:36.700 But you'll literally put his penis into your fucking mouth. 1.00

08:29:42.080 Oh my God. 1.00

08:29:42.760 I love that. 1.00

08:29:43.260 What the fuck? 1.00

08:29:43.520 I love it. 1.00

08:29:44.120 For her.

08:29:44.440 It's satisfying for her.

08:29:45.680 It's not satisfying for her.

08:29:46.820 Mom, if you're watching this, I'm sorry.

08:29:48.500 I like second names. 1.00

08:29:49.080 These girls, these girls at the universities, I'm going to do the fucking Trump hands. 1.00

08:29:54.020 The fucking Trump hands. 1.00

08:29:54.820 These girls, these sorority girls, oh, Pike or Sig Ep, you're going to go to the fraternity 1.00

08:30:02.940 house, and that guy's been day drinking all fucking day. 0.98

08:30:05.900 I'm not in a frat house. 0.99

08:30:06.260 He's been sweating into his Calvin Klein boxers.

08:30:11.000 Oh my God, I'm spitting.

08:30:12.020 You're putting that into the clothes.

08:30:12.980 He's going to be sweating.

08:30:13.780 He's been sweating in those boxers for days.

08:30:19.040 Frat boys, do you think they changed their sheets? 0.98

08:30:21.080 Yeah, it's thingsies. 1.00

08:30:21.760 Don't suck frat boys. 1.00

08:30:22.740 I don't give a shit. 1.00

08:30:23.480 You're sucking the dick. 1.00

08:30:24.040 You're sucking the frat penis. 1.00

08:30:25.800 Sucking the frat penis. 1.00

08:30:27.700 You're sucking it. 1.00

08:30:29.380 The fuck? 1.00

08:30:31.920 You like that? 1.00

08:30:33.920 What the fuck? 1.00

08:30:35.320 He's gagging. 1.00

08:30:36.540 And what was I saying? 1.00

08:30:38.580 No, don't suck frat boy dick. 1.00

08:30:40.180 Frat boy dick is dirty and gross. 1.00

08:30:41.380 Yeah, you're going to put the frat boy penis into- 1.00

08:30:43.540 Suck the rich dick. 1.00

08:30:44.780 Suck the rich dick and know that they have money, then you suck the dick. 1.00

08:30:48.420 You'll put- 1.00

08:30:49.320 That dude's been sweating. 1.00

08:30:50.820 Suck the rich dick. 1.00

08:30:51.380 He's been playing beer pong all fucking dick. 1.00

08:30:52.760 I can show you rich guys. 1.00

08:30:53.960 He's been playing the frat guy. 0.99

08:30:55.300 I've been playing beer pong all fucking night. 0.99

08:30:57.260 Let me tell you this. 0.99

08:30:57.680 You're the type of girl- 1.00

08:30:58.340 All night, I've been fucking playing beer pong. 1.00

08:31:00.500 We're all 50-year-olds. 0.99

08:31:01.520 Anyways, look.

08:31:02.340 I'm just saying. 0.99

08:31:02.940 And you will insert his member into your gullet, but you won't do a motherfucking bow. 1.00

08:31:09.840 That is fucking crazy to me. 1.00

08:31:12.040 What the fuck? 1.00

08:31:12.180 I 100% agree. 1.00

08:31:13.140 Have you ever eaten a girl's, like, noo-noo on the first time? 1.00

08:31:16.440 I don't do that.

08:31:16.480 I don't do that.

08:31:17.460 I don't go down to that.

08:31:18.260 Wait, do you know who Ash Chavino is?

08:31:19.660 Oh, really?

08:31:21.060 Oh, sorry, guys.

08:31:22.500 Do you know Ash Chavino?

08:31:23.600 Sorry, this is funny.

08:31:24.520 Noo-noo. 0.99

08:31:25.180 I'm so upset.

08:31:26.420 Uh, what?

08:31:27.680 Is that, like, an intimate, like, girlfriend thing?

08:31:29.800 Look, I have not done that.

08:31:31.120 I've done it.

08:31:31.920 I haven't done it since the Bush administration.

08:31:34.300 Summer of 98?

08:31:34.860 I love that you remember that pie.

08:31:37.820 It was an all-

08:31:38.280 Wait, hold on.

08:31:39.700 But what's the point of the shirt?

08:31:40.340 You don't enjoy it.

08:31:41.660 Yeah, it was, like, 2000.

08:31:42.060 That's why it isn't doing it.

08:31:43.200 The shirt.

08:31:43.920 If he's not gonna appreciate it, why do you-

08:31:46.180 I appreciate it in other ways.

08:31:48.800 Not related to my mouth.

08:31:50.540 You don't like it?

08:31:51.180 Then how else?

08:31:52.000 Wait, when was Bush president?

08:31:53.700 What year?

08:31:54.300 2000 to 2008.

08:31:55.900 9-11.

08:31:56.820 That's the last time?

08:31:58.040 Eight no-nos in 2008?

08:32:00.620 Yeah, 2007, 2008.

08:32:02.440 Y'all, Brian and I was, like, eight no-noo in decades.

08:32:05.860 It's almost been two decades.

08:32:07.520 No, noo-noo.

08:32:10.040 Look, but by the way, let me make something very clear to you, Erica Perry.

08:32:14.800 Let me make something clear.

08:32:17.240 My philosophy when it comes to, well, not that, but pleasing women, she's gotta come first at least once. 1.00

08:32:24.860 She's gotta come first. 0.97

08:32:25.780 She's gotta come first at least once.

08:32:28.320 No, not by my mouth.

08:32:29.100 There's other ways.

08:32:29.820 The majority of women don't- 1.00

08:32:31.600 So, like, finger finish by penetration. 0.94

08:32:35.280 Ew. 0.80

08:32:35.760 There's other ways.

08:32:36.420 No, I'm mouth.

08:32:40.040 How did we get here?

08:32:41.600 I don't know.

08:32:43.660 Let's circle back. 0.81

08:32:44.900 There's an orgasm.

08:32:46.040 There is an orgasm gap.

08:32:47.560 It is true.

08:32:48.260 How do you do that?

08:32:48.880 What's the orgasm gap? 0.98

08:32:50.380 How do you make a girl orgasm, Brian? 0.99

08:32:52.640 Yeah, what's the- 1.00

08:32:53.260 Yeah, tell her.

08:32:54.120 It's not like I'm greedy.

08:32:55.480 It's like, her pleasure, she's gotta come first.

08:32:58.480 Okay, so how do you do that?

08:32:59.320 Wait, what if she's 10 out of 10 perfect woman for you, and she's like, but this is the stimulation? 0.97

08:33:03.300 Are you gonna fold her laundry?

08:33:04.020 Yes.

08:33:04.620 Like, you have to.

08:33:05.520 You fold her up like a- 0.97

08:33:06.780 She's perfect? 0.93

08:33:07.620 Perfect.

08:33:08.080 So, she's a virgin.

08:33:08.920 Oh, my God.

08:33:10.100 Whatever you're-

08:33:10.560 You want a virgin? 0.92

08:33:13.200 Perfect in every way, but that's her one stipulation.

08:33:16.840 She's perfect.

08:33:17.700 Perfect.

08:33:18.020 Yeah, sure.

08:33:18.520 I'll do it.

08:33:19.180 For the perfect woman, sure. 1.00

08:33:20.720 A virgin is perfection to you.

08:33:22.300 Well, hold on.

08:33:23.240 There's other-

08:33:23.860 There's other chair-

08:33:25.220 Characteristics.

08:33:26.580 Like-

08:33:27.380 Characteristics, too.

08:33:29.760 You want the list?

08:33:30.380 I can give you the list.

08:33:31.300 I'll give you the list.

08:33:31.760 Wait, so you don't-

08:33:33.120 We can probably assume-

08:33:33.980 You exclude a body count over 10, basically?

08:33:36.540 I didn't say that.

08:33:37.740 Okay. 0.98

08:33:38.280 He wants a virgin. 0.99

08:33:38.980 How old are you again?

08:33:40.500 36. 1.00

08:33:41.780 1989, motherfuckers. 1.00

08:33:43.140 Why can't they understand that guys also find girls' traditional gender roles attractive? 1.00

08:33:48.400 They think we want talkative, independent boss-

08:33:50.920 I like a choir.

08:33:51.860 I don't think you want that.

08:33:53.180 Quiet, you know?

08:33:54.420 No, men want-

08:33:55.040 Like, missive, quiet, folding laundry. 0.63

08:33:58.880 You're not going to find a virgin.

08:33:59.760 Talkative, independent boss-

08:34:01.160 I am not a boss-

08:34:02.060 It could be low body count, but you asked about perfect woman, so yeah, she'd- 1.00

08:34:06.160 The per-

08:34:06.520 Yes, she would be a virgin.

08:34:08.160 A 37-year-old virgin, or what age range are you?

08:34:12.440 In terms-

08:34:13.200 Like, what would be the perfect woman? 1.00

08:34:14.720 Yeah.

08:34:15.520 Sure.

08:34:17.680 Eight.

08:34:17.960 You're asking for age?

08:34:19.500 Yeah, yeah.

08:34:19.960 Eight.

08:34:20.240 Eight.

08:34:20.500 I don't know.

08:34:21.900 Between 22, or 20 to 23, I guess.

08:34:24.780 20?

08:34:25.380 Yeah, sure.

08:34:26.080 Brian, you're in your 30s.

08:34:27.860 You're 37, or whatever.

08:34:29.540 Actually, no, I don't-

08:34:30.860 20?

08:34:31.120 Yeah, no, because most guys I dated when I was in my early 20s were much older, so yeah,

08:34:35.360 I get you.

08:34:35.880 I don't-

08:34:36.300 Yeah, I'm not-

08:34:37.060 I don't care what the age got there.

08:34:38.180 Yeah, I don't care about it either.

08:34:40.480 I date guys who are 70. 1.00

08:34:41.960 Fuck. 1.00

08:34:42.340 What the fuck? 1.00

08:34:43.120 That's what young girls say. 1.00

08:34:43.960 I fuck guys who are 70. 1.00

08:34:44.700 I mean, the- 1.00

08:34:46.220 I actually, I was thinking about maybe making the cutoff, like, if you were born after 9-11.

08:34:52.020 That's a good cutoff.

08:34:53.360 That's-

08:34:53.380 So that's, like, what?

08:34:54.340 They would-

08:34:55.140 That's 2004.

08:34:55.580 That's, like, 24.

08:34:58.080 24, yeah.

08:34:58.780 So they were born in 2000.

08:34:59.720 Ooh, too old.

08:35:01.220 2001, you want this to cut off.

08:35:02.680 The Afghanistan.

08:35:03.420 When did we invade Afghanistan?

08:35:04.900 So girls who were born in 2000 are now 22.

08:35:07.440 Like, 97, 98.

08:35:08.500 Like, 97, 98.

08:35:09.860 I don't know.

08:35:11.920 Good talk.

08:35:12.700 All right.

08:35:12.860 Why don't you like girls your own age? 0.74

08:35:14.780 Well, hold on.

08:35:15.220 Are we too old for you?

08:35:16.360 Hold on.

08:35:16.780 I would date- 1.00

08:35:17.620 I fold better laundry than these bitches. 1.00

08:35:19.460 Hold on. 1.00

08:35:20.120 Just to be clear-

08:35:21.260 I can make those creases sharp.

08:35:23.520 She's like, no, I fold better.

08:35:26.260 Sorry.

08:35:27.040 So I've actually-

08:35:27.660 I've dated women older than me, too.

08:35:29.540 Oh.

08:35:29.740 I did it when I was-

08:35:30.520 Sugar baby? 0.96

08:35:31.680 When I was 30-

08:35:32.520 Sugar baby Brian?

08:35:33.700 No, no, no.

08:35:34.180 It wasn't-

08:35:34.700 No.

08:35:35.140 When I was 32?

08:35:38.000 31, 32.

08:35:39.160 I dated a woman who was, like, 44, 45. 1.00

08:35:41.600 Oh.

08:35:42.040 What happened?

08:35:43.720 I don't know.

08:35:44.280 We dated, like, six months.

08:35:45.140 You went home with, like, a pre-son. 0.54

08:35:46.200 Like, but, like, how did-

08:35:47.300 Who ended it?

08:35:48.660 It was kind of mutual.

08:35:50.300 Why?

08:35:51.600 Oh, I-

08:35:52.600 Why?

08:35:54.140 I don't know.

08:35:54.220 You didn't go down on her.

08:35:55.480 She had a- 0.73

08:35:56.120 Real.

08:35:56.560 No, she didn't care.

08:35:58.580 She did.

08:36:00.220 She had a yappy dog, and she always wanted to-

08:36:02.340 Oh, God.

08:36:02.860 Here we go.

08:36:03.320 She always wanted to bring the dog over, and I was like, God.

08:36:05.800 That is a deal breaker.

08:36:07.020 I've heard that from guys.

08:36:07.960 It's the dog's fault.

08:36:08.260 Yes.

08:36:08.760 I've heard that from guys before.

08:36:10.360 Yes.

08:36:11.080 No, it's like, I still wanted to see her, but she's like, can I bring the dog over?

08:36:14.200 I'm like, your dog barks the entire time.

08:36:16.300 No, that's gross.

08:36:17.200 I'm like-

08:36:17.760 I don't even like that.

08:36:18.560 Yeah, I get you on that.

08:36:20.140 Wow.

08:36:20.280 It's like the little-

08:36:20.660 I don't have a peaceful night.

08:36:21.900 But did you like her outside of it?

08:36:23.460 Huh?

08:36:23.880 Outside of the dog?

08:36:25.080 Did you like it?

08:36:25.600 Yeah, she's cool. 1.00

08:36:26.480 Damn. 1.00

08:36:27.080 What a deal breaker. 1.00

08:36:28.300 But Brian, do you want kids?

08:36:29.220 Relationships end.

08:36:30.120 Yeah.

08:36:30.920 So, would you say that's a big reason of why you want a younger woman? 0.84

08:36:35.040 Yeah, I want seven children.

08:36:37.020 Oh, really?

08:36:37.260 Seven sons.

08:36:38.100 I want seven- 0.61

08:36:38.840 Well, yeah, you probably should go for-

08:36:40.140 I want seven sons.

08:36:40.280 Why do you prefer sons over having daughters? 0.99

08:36:43.040 He wants a basketball team.

08:36:44.260 So, I'm agnostic, but I have very positive sentiments toward Christianity.

08:36:50.020 So, I'd like to reference the Bible.

08:36:52.700 Sons, well, I'm no longer in my youth. 0.75

08:36:56.940 Sons in a man's youth are like arrows in the hands of a warrior. 0.70

08:37:01.860 Blessed is he- 1.00

08:37:02.820 Fuck, I totally butchered it. 1.00

08:37:03.920 Blessed is he who has many? 1.00

08:37:05.520 What?

08:37:05.820 Oh, no.

08:37:06.220 Blessed is he whose quiver is full.

08:37:09.340 So, yeah.

08:37:09.880 Look, there's just something about, like, if you have sons, if you ever need to go to war, figuratively speaking, not literally, there's just something about having sons.

08:37:21.460 It's the lineage.

08:37:22.240 That you can go to war with your sons. 0.88

08:37:24.940 You know that's dictated by sperm. 0.99

08:37:26.420 Figuratively.

08:37:27.340 I agree.

08:37:27.880 I would rather have sons only.

08:37:30.140 No, it's not.

08:37:30.720 I wouldn't be upset if I had daughters, but I'm just saying there's something like a father-son connection bond is something different.

08:37:37.460 Sons make a man a better man. 1.00

08:37:38.920 A father-daughter bond is different, too.

08:37:40.920 But there's just, I want sons.

08:37:44.340 But you'd be okay with having girls, too?

08:37:47.100 Because I need soldiers.

08:37:48.340 What's that?

08:37:48.860 Yeah, sure.

08:37:49.200 Soldiers?

08:37:49.600 All men want sons because they're so immature and they want to see themselves. 0.99

08:37:51.420 We keep going until I have at least three sons.

08:37:53.360 So, if we have ten daughters, we keep going.

08:37:55.560 Grow up to be themselves.

08:37:56.420 You're going to keep going.

08:37:58.700 Yeah.

08:37:58.940 So, if we have ten daughters in a row, keep going.

08:38:01.460 You're like Elon Musk.

08:38:02.360 You want to spread your seed to all the hoes. 1.00

08:38:05.260 Elon Musk is a billionaire.

08:38:06.300 You should start now, then.

08:38:07.680 Like, you're 36. 1.00

08:38:08.980 Like, fuck. 1.00

08:38:10.360 But, yeah. 1.00

08:38:10.600 Just to be clear, I've dated older women. 1.00

08:38:12.140 Like, it's not like I'm hanging out at college parties trying to get.

08:38:18.040 No, it's like.

08:38:18.700 You are in UCSV.

08:38:20.100 I saw so many little boys out.

08:38:22.020 Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.

08:38:22.820 Um, so, yeah.

08:38:26.260 I mean, if there was a woman my age, I would, it's not like I wouldn't date her.

08:38:31.720 If there's a girl who's even older than me, I would date her. 0.95

08:38:34.340 So, it's not like I'm just kicking it at college parties trying to date a co-ed.

08:38:39.920 Like.

08:38:40.100 I don't think you're kicking it at college parties.

08:38:41.740 I'm not.

08:38:42.060 I'm definitely not.

08:38:42.840 I know you're not.

08:38:43.960 Yeah.

08:38:44.960 Wow.

08:38:45.700 I'm not cool enough to hang out.

08:38:46.520 You're a very interesting person, Brian.

08:38:48.120 Thank you for that.

08:38:48.800 Guys, let's get through the freaking notes so we can get out of here. 0.99

08:38:51.520 Oh, shit. 0.99

08:38:51.940 We, when is this over? 1.00

08:38:53.300 Never.

08:38:53.840 I know.

08:38:54.140 This might be our longest.

08:38:55.460 I was going to say, like, this is the longest of what I've watched.

08:38:58.400 Oh, there's TikToks too.

08:38:59.500 Was this the longest and most chaotic?

08:39:00.820 It was pretty chaotic.

08:39:01.360 Is it chaotic?

08:39:02.420 Oh, my God.

08:39:02.820 I mean, what happened an hour ago.

08:39:03.960 I'm going to blast through these.

08:39:05.560 What would you want the minimum yearly income to be?

08:39:07.680 Grandma Joe?

08:39:07.960 Shh, shh, shh, shh.

08:39:08.640 Guys, you got to be quiet so I can get it done quick.

08:39:10.720 Okay.

08:39:11.000 What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? 0.99

08:39:13.920 Quick answers.

08:39:14.960 I said $80,000.

08:39:16.140 Into the mic if you can.

08:39:16.980 Oh, I said $80,000.

08:39:18.160 What about for you?

08:39:20.060 I don't even know what incomes are.

08:39:21.780 I just.

08:39:22.400 Money.

08:39:22.980 You just.

08:39:24.260 Wealthy men just pay for your life, right? 0.72

08:39:25.220 Yeah, honestly.

08:39:26.220 I'm sorry.

08:39:27.020 Well, okay.

08:39:27.780 No, actually, she's gone, so.

08:39:30.780 What was her answer?

08:39:31.780 She says, doesn't want a husband. 1.00

08:39:34.900 I feel like a three.

08:39:36.320 Shout out Grandma Jones. 1.00

08:39:37.540 It's probably for the best that she left.

08:39:39.320 I said $100,000.

08:39:41.440 $100,000, okay. 1.00

08:39:42.940 Damn. 1.00

08:39:43.260 You're already married. 1.00

08:39:43.880 I'm married.

08:39:44.420 How much does your husband?

08:39:46.080 Out of respect for the matter of finances.

08:39:48.440 What about you?

08:39:50.200 So sole provider or dual income?

08:39:53.220 Sole.

08:39:53.940 Wait.

08:39:54.620 Just him.

08:39:55.720 If it's just him and I'm not working.

08:39:58.120 Oh, I see.

08:39:58.620 Okay, yeah.

08:39:59.760 I had a hard time with that one, but $150,000 to $200,000 living in California.

08:40:05.100 Okay, per year and then $80,000 if it's dual?

08:40:08.520 If it's dual.

08:40:09.840 How much do you make?

08:40:12.720 I actually haven't calculated it in a while.

08:40:14.900 You do work, though, right.

08:40:15.800 But when I was teaching previously, I was making about a little over $90,000.

08:40:21.760 All right.

08:40:22.380 What about you?

08:40:23.900 I don't know.

08:40:24.940 I'm happy with the amount of money my husband makes.

08:40:28.840 What about you?

08:40:29.500 Same.

08:40:30.580 Okay.

08:40:32.340 What about you, Brian?

08:40:33.660 Minimum income for?

08:40:34.840 What do you want your girl to make? 1.00

08:40:36.460 Uh, well, I would be willing to date a woman who does have a job, but zero. 1.00

08:40:42.980 Don't care.

08:40:43.740 She could be unemployed. 0.99

08:40:45.320 How much do you make?

08:40:46.140 She could work at Chick-fil-A. 0.95

08:40:47.020 I'm not going to disclose that, but I'm doing good.

08:40:48.740 Okay.

08:40:48.940 I'm doing good.

08:40:50.300 Oh, I see.

08:40:51.000 TTS, baby.

08:40:51.820 I'm doing okay.

08:40:51.840 I'm doing all right.

08:40:52.660 You know, look, I'm a starving college student.

08:40:54.340 Do that too.

08:40:55.000 Oh, yeah.

08:40:55.540 Okay.

08:40:55.720 I spend a lot of money on popsicles for Felicity.

08:40:58.680 She's actually bankrupting me.

08:41:00.060 The amount of money I'm spending here.

08:41:02.380 So, um, how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?

08:41:09.760 Five, eight.

08:41:10.900 Um, I tend to go for people who are at least five, 10 now, but I've dated way shorter.

08:41:14.720 Okay.

08:41:15.040 What about you?

08:41:15.680 All sizes.

08:41:18.020 You'll date a guy who's like five foot three.

08:41:19.840 I have.

08:41:21.040 Even if there's no sugar or sugar, like it has to be there.

08:41:25.860 Yeah.

08:41:26.240 Uh, what about you?

08:41:27.780 I'm five, six.

08:41:28.740 I, I love six foot, but you know, I'll bend five, 10.

08:41:33.760 Sure.

08:41:34.620 I'm five, eight.

08:41:35.320 My husband's six, two.

08:41:36.640 What about you?

08:41:37.500 I'm five, two and I prefer six feet, but five, 10 and up is fine.

08:41:41.740 Okay.

08:41:42.900 I'm five, two and I like short hunks and my husband's five, seven and I'm good with that.

08:41:47.600 All right.

08:41:47.960 What about you?

08:41:48.400 I'm five, two and anything above five feet is good for me.

08:41:52.040 Okay.

08:41:52.480 Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?

08:41:57.600 Um, I said bear and this isn't an original take, but, um, a bear will attack you because

08:42:04.140 they think you're a threat.

08:42:05.300 A man will attack you because he knows you're not.

08:42:09.940 Uh, okay.

08:42:10.860 What about you?

08:42:12.280 I'd rather encounter a man over a woman because I've been over a bear, a man or a bear. 0.97

08:42:17.920 Oh, sorry.

08:42:20.160 Yeah.

08:42:20.600 A man.

08:42:21.200 But also like, if it was like a man or a woman, I'd pick the man because like, I've

08:42:25.120 had more predatory girls come at me than men. 0.99

08:42:29.420 What about a bear?

08:42:30.660 Oh, the, I don't want to encounter that.

08:42:32.680 They, they can climb, they can run 30 miles per hour. 1.00

08:42:36.020 Bitch. 1.00

08:42:36.200 Have you ever seen videos of bears? 1.00

08:42:37.500 They're crazy.

08:42:38.800 No, thank you. 0.99

08:42:39.520 And also like, I've seen girls and they're like, Oh my God, I'd rather die fast. 1.00

08:42:42.880 I'm like, no, you'd be a slow death because bears just like rip your face off.

08:42:46.320 Kind of like a monkey does. 0.94

08:42:47.720 Okay.

08:42:48.740 Yeah.

08:42:49.060 It's insane.

08:42:49.680 What about you? 0.57

08:42:50.060 I would choose a man because there is a chance that he might not kill me immediately.

08:42:55.780 And if he tried to, I could at least fight back and then emotionally hurt him.

08:43:00.520 Sure.

08:43:00.800 What about you?

08:43:01.600 I would choose a man.

08:43:02.540 I choose to believe most men are good.

08:43:03.960 What about you?

08:43:04.520 A man.

08:43:05.120 What about you?

08:43:06.120 Absolutely a man.

08:43:07.060 I don't think that there's like a high likelihood that he's a predator.

08:43:10.360 And if he is, I feel that I can defend myself physically against a man over a bear.

08:43:15.580 Got it.

08:43:16.080 What about you?

08:43:16.680 A man.

08:43:17.260 Into the mic if you can.

08:43:18.720 A man.

08:43:21.020 Really quick.

08:43:21.580 I won't linger on this long just for the sake of time.

08:43:23.960 So you said you pick bear essentially.

08:43:26.280 Yeah.

08:43:26.480 Because the man could S-A-U.

08:43:28.860 Is that kind of how the.

08:43:30.560 What are the tactics?

08:43:31.480 I'm curious.

08:43:32.500 To defend against a bear?

08:43:34.200 Yeah.

08:43:34.600 Have you heard like black bear this, brown bear this?

08:43:37.640 Like there's.

08:43:37.940 Have you seen videos of bears chasing after people?

08:43:40.420 They're crazy.

08:43:41.000 They can climb up trees.

08:43:41.780 I understand a bear can rip someone to shreds.

08:43:44.960 No.

08:43:45.260 They can go 30 miles per hour.

08:43:47.600 Like a random man in the middle of the woods.

08:43:49.660 Like I'm horrified.

08:43:50.520 A bear I'm just like hiding.

08:43:52.320 And like.

08:43:52.440 You don't think you can.

08:43:53.160 What if it was like Brian in the woods?

08:43:55.220 Like would Brian scare you in the woods?

08:43:57.960 Like if you'd never met Brian before.

08:43:59.860 I mean come on.

08:44:01.220 What if it was like a white dude that voted for Trump?

08:44:03.620 I feel like I'd be like. 0.73

08:44:04.680 Like I'd see a bear.

08:44:05.740 And then I'd be like see Brian.

08:44:06.780 And be like Brian help me.

08:44:07.660 And then he would just like throw me to the bear.

08:44:09.480 That's true.

08:44:10.040 Yeah.

08:44:10.500 That's exactly.

08:44:10.940 That's true.

08:44:11.360 If me and her were in the woods together and a bear showed up.

08:44:13.820 I would just.

08:44:14.960 Exactly.

08:44:15.480 I would dip.

08:44:16.200 I'd be like.

08:44:17.060 Nice knowing you Jess.

08:44:18.020 I think you would too.

08:44:18.900 It was a good.

08:44:19.380 Good.

08:44:19.620 Good talk.

08:44:20.780 Okay.

08:44:21.780 But.

08:44:23.600 There is the concern though.

08:44:25.040 Like okay.

08:44:25.500 The bear.

08:44:26.400 Worst case scenario.

08:44:27.520 He like eats you. 1.00

08:44:28.340 Kills you. 1.00

08:44:28.720 Whatever. 1.00

08:44:29.500 Worst case scenario.

08:44:30.320 The man like tortures you.

08:44:31.360 Essays you. 1.00

08:44:32.000 Kills you. 1.00

08:44:33.180 Yeah. 0.97

08:44:33.340 So there's that component.

08:44:35.360 Do I even want to debate the bear thing?

08:44:37.040 Probably not.

08:44:38.020 Let's move on.

08:44:38.800 Yeah.

08:44:39.720 It's just me again.

08:44:40.800 Let's have like full panel.

08:44:43.060 Felicity.

08:44:43.840 I'm really tired of this question.

08:44:46.100 Oh yeah.

08:44:46.860 We'll do this.

08:44:47.480 Oh also.

08:44:48.120 Here's what we have to do.

08:44:49.080 Hold on.

08:44:49.900 Oh no.

08:44:50.840 Here.

08:44:51.120 We do this at the end of the show.

08:44:52.740 There's no way.

08:44:53.580 You guys have to take your makeup off.

08:44:55.420 No.

08:44:55.700 I'm not doing that.

08:44:56.380 You have to do it.

08:44:57.060 Have to do it.

08:44:57.820 Have to do it.

08:44:58.520 My makeup already melted off.

08:45:00.060 Pay me Brian.

08:45:00.900 I'm excited.

08:45:01.120 10 hours.

08:45:02.340 Nope.

08:45:03.020 I'm excited.

08:45:03.820 Oh thank you.

08:45:05.240 Oh my gosh.

08:45:06.340 Seriously?

08:45:06.840 Seriously.

08:45:07.620 I never said I look good without makeup.

08:45:09.780 So no thank you.

08:45:11.000 Exactly.

08:45:11.920 Take it off.

08:45:12.540 I think our makeup already melted off.

08:45:14.300 It's been 10 hours.

08:45:15.720 Yeah.

08:45:16.380 This is.

08:45:17.000 I will say.

08:45:17.740 I'm not pro him doing this. 0.90

08:45:19.320 This is dehumanizing and embarrassing and disgusting.

08:45:22.400 But she will. 0.91

08:45:22.860 This goes against all your beliefs girl.

08:45:24.700 But I look good without makeup and I can't wait to have the makeup off my face.

08:45:27.820 She will participate nevertheless.

08:45:29.820 No.

08:45:30.400 Because I hate the feeling of makeup.

08:45:30.640 It actually goes against everything you've been saying.

08:45:33.060 So I'm very confused why you're.

08:45:34.820 Yeah.

08:45:35.120 I'm confused why you're doing this.

08:45:36.180 Oh my God.

08:45:36.480 Don't argue with her about it.

08:45:37.540 Just let her take the makeup off. 1.00

08:45:38.540 Well I know you're beautiful with that.

08:45:40.120 But like it goes against like a lot of what you've been debating actually.

08:45:43.700 Here.

08:45:43.860 Why don't you take your makeup off?

08:45:45.260 No.

08:45:45.500 Thank you.

08:45:46.300 I know I'm not.

08:45:47.220 I know I'm not.

08:45:48.360 I know I'm a trog.

08:45:50.540 No.

08:45:50.760 This is very dehumanizing.

08:45:51.760 I'm really.

08:45:52.260 I'm actually very insecure about my looks.

08:45:54.800 Like I know I.

08:45:55.460 I know I'm not cute.

08:45:56.420 Yeah.

08:45:56.760 Like you're just picking on makeup.

08:45:58.840 Women's insecurity. 1.00

08:46:00.060 No I'm not.

08:46:00.620 I feel like personally Brian.

08:46:03.060 You might need some makeup. 1.00

08:46:04.400 What the fuck? 1.00

08:46:05.800 That was mean. 1.00

08:46:07.080 Damn. 1.00

08:46:07.320 I'm actually so grateful. 1.00

08:46:08.900 That was mean.

08:46:09.960 I'm so grateful you gave me a makeup wipe.

08:46:11.820 I know.

08:46:12.500 This is like taking time out of my night routine.

08:46:14.640 It's giving pick me energy low key.

08:46:17.680 How could she say that?

08:46:18.900 How is that pick me?

08:46:19.820 Because you're like I'm going to take my makeup off.

08:46:21.740 It's like we don't wear.

08:46:23.140 It's not pick me.

08:46:23.560 I don't care about makeup.

08:46:24.640 We don't wear makeup for men.

08:46:26.560 We wear makeup because we want to make ourselves feel more beautiful.

08:46:30.080 Yeah.

08:46:30.400 I'll yap, yap, yap.

08:46:31.760 I.

08:46:32.220 Mm hmm.

08:46:32.800 Right here.

08:46:33.120 Yeah.

08:46:33.300 Me neither.

08:46:33.780 I'm not even wearing makeup.

08:46:34.980 I do not wear makeup. 0.99

08:46:35.600 I got called a cake face in high school because I love wearing makeup and I don't give a fuck. 0.99

08:46:39.980 Like. 0.98

08:46:40.160 But I don't think it's pick me to take off your makeup because I don't have any negative.

08:46:43.480 Oh, wait.

08:46:44.280 Read this from Mike Davis.

08:46:45.400 Read it from Mike Davis.

08:46:46.180 But like you're down the chair one still here.

08:46:48.120 You're down the chair one still here.

08:46:48.140 You're down the chair.

08:46:48.760 You're down the chair.

08:46:48.960 You're down the chair.

08:46:49.140 You're down the chair.

08:46:49.560 You're down the chair.

08:46:49.880 You're down the chair.

08:46:50.060 You're beautiful.

08:46:50.500 I know you are.

08:46:51.280 You're actually pretty. 1.00

08:46:52.260 Those girls are ugly as fuck without makeup. 1.00

08:46:54.380 Bro. 1.00

08:46:54.720 Mike Davis. 0.99

08:46:55.400 What the hell? 0.93

08:46:56.080 Also, I'm cooking too. 0.84

08:46:57.200 I love cooking.

08:46:57.920 Send me the money, Mike.

08:46:59.420 Because you can't do the money.

08:47:01.520 That's crazy. 0.98

08:47:02.220 There's some ugly people. 0.99

08:47:02.860 Is he fake? 0.99

08:47:03.620 Is this a bot?

08:47:07.020 Does that mean we can go home and go Betty by now?

08:47:09.620 We got a bit more to get through.

08:47:12.520 You know what I mean?

08:47:12.880 I've got layers. 1.00

08:47:13.780 I'm not taking this shit off. 1.00

08:47:14.640 Take it off. 1.00

08:47:15.560 Take it off.

08:47:16.900 I probably have like $2,000 on my face.

08:47:19.840 I highly doubt that.

08:47:20.820 Oh, you want to bet?

08:47:22.460 Sure.

08:47:22.920 I'll bet.

08:47:23.200 You want to see the price of all my makeup products?

08:47:26.760 Do you actually want to bet on this?

08:47:27.560 You're underestimating.

08:47:28.700 You actually want to bet? 1.00

08:47:29.420 Yeah, because my makeup is expensive as fuck. 0.99

08:47:32.340 I will take photos. 0.97

08:47:32.720 But just to be clear, you're saying the amount of product that you have on your face right

08:47:36.540 now.

08:47:36.960 The amount of all the different products I have are expensive.

08:47:41.100 This is such a bad argument.

08:47:42.160 I don't wear like Walmart.

08:47:45.480 Sorry.

08:47:45.720 No offense to that.

08:47:46.960 You would have to calculate that per use because each makeup container has multiple uses.

08:47:52.960 It's each individual product.

08:47:53.840 These women who argue men should pay for first dates because here's all the makeup that 1.00

08:47:58.540 I have to pay.

08:47:59.200 But it's one individual use.

08:48:01.340 No, when we get ready, that's a bunch of money. 1.00

08:48:04.340 Your clothes, your makeup, your hair, your fucking shoes. 0.99

08:48:07.560 That's thousands of dollars all accumulated. 1.00

08:48:09.700 Yes, it is.

08:48:10.540 That's not how that works.

08:48:11.580 Yes, it is.

08:48:12.720 Yes.

08:48:12.940 You're expected to be presented a certain way.

08:48:14.740 Yes.

08:48:15.360 And if you show, I've done the test.

08:48:17.760 I'm going to quote some Drake here.

08:48:21.680 I've showed up looking like haggard vibes and they don't like it.

08:48:24.620 Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no, sweatpants, hair tied.

08:48:25.800 On a first date, like a nice place.

08:48:27.700 They only want that if you're a side hoe. 1.00

08:48:29.480 The girl you're already dating. 0.99

08:48:30.620 They only want sweatpants, chilling with no makeup, with your side hoe, sucking their 1.00

08:48:33.600 dick. 1.00

08:48:34.180 Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no makeup on.

08:48:36.240 That's when you're the prettiest.

08:48:37.340 I hope that you don't take it off. 1.00

08:48:38.080 Yeah, when your dick is in their mouth, like, no, only boyfriends think that. 1.00

08:48:42.300 I don't think my husband would be okay with that. 1.00

08:48:44.100 I tell girls, I'll tell a girl, it's our first time meeting, don't wear makeup, don't 1.00

08:48:49.040 wear perfume.

08:48:50.240 Perfume?

08:48:50.780 Yeah, what is your, like, why are you against Baccarat?

08:48:52.800 It doesn't smell good.

08:48:53.740 He has allergies.

08:48:54.240 It doesn't smell good. 1.00

08:48:55.080 You don't like, you don't like expensive shit? 1.00

08:48:57.340 You're like, you're low key, a little bit, uh, bad hat humbug. 1.00

08:49:01.720 What the fuck is that? 1.00

08:49:03.060 Like, I don't know, you're like the Grinch. 1.00

08:49:05.240 You're like the Grinch is so Christmas. 0.99

08:49:06.960 Evan, these are screwed. 0.99

08:49:07.760 I can see that. 1.00

08:49:08.660 Brian is the Grinch who stole Christmas. 1.00

08:49:11.600 Fuck yeah. 1.00

08:49:12.480 Did you have your heart broken? 1.00

08:49:14.360 Who hurt you?

08:49:15.320 Yeah.

08:49:15.860 No, no, not who are you.

08:49:17.080 Just, like, I'm confused, like, not confused, like, who broke your heart and how long ago

08:49:20.600 was it?

08:49:22.900 You did have your heart broken, Brian.

08:49:25.020 Yes.

08:49:27.760 Oh, you're going to do the fake yawn.

08:49:30.840 It's a real yawn.

08:49:31.980 Shout out to my ex, Stefan. 0.92

08:49:33.240 Please don't block me.

08:49:34.360 I really miss you.

08:49:35.920 Oh, wait, we need to.

08:49:36.680 I miss you, Stefan.

08:49:37.880 What? 1.00

08:49:39.080 Yeah, bitch, I don't care. 1.00

08:49:40.280 I think he's watching. 1.00

08:49:41.260 No, but he probably will see, like, out.

08:49:43.280 So, like, I have clipped.

08:49:44.620 All right, guys, we're going to do a roast session.

08:49:46.760 We're going to do, just for time reasons, we're going to do $69.

08:49:51.920 It's going to have to be $69 for the roast, because otherwise we'll be here all frickin'

08:49:57.640 night.

08:49:58.960 This is the longest stream you've ever had.

08:50:00.700 This is the longest stream, yeah.

08:50:01.380 Like the video, guys.

08:50:02.500 Yeah, it usually ends at, like, 12.

08:50:04.100 Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.

08:50:05.440 Drop us a follow.

08:50:05.900 Drop us a prime sub.

08:50:06.760 I honestly blame you.

08:50:09.480 Me?

08:50:10.060 It's mostly your fault.

08:50:10.720 I blame you.

08:50:10.820 It's all your fault.

08:50:12.180 It's my energy.

08:50:13.460 I'm going to make you go bye-bye, Brian.

08:50:16.060 Bye-bye or bye-bye?

08:50:17.360 Bye-bye.

08:50:18.080 No, it was previous chair three.

08:50:20.260 What was her name?

08:50:21.080 Oh, yeah.

08:50:21.640 Amy, Grandma Jones.

08:50:22.920 That wasted love.

08:50:23.620 Shout out, Grandma Jones. 1.00

08:50:24.640 We love you, bitch. 1.00

08:50:25.360 Okay, let me blast through a couple. 0.99

08:50:27.460 We're not going to be able to do all the questionnaire.

08:50:29.380 I'll just do a few.

08:50:31.820 Jasmine, you said a man dating a transgender woman is straight.

08:50:35.040 Why is that?

08:50:35.640 If they consider themselves, if they think that trans women are women and they consider themselves

08:50:39.740 straight, then yeah.

08:50:40.800 Yeah, but let's say there's an outside perspective, right?

08:50:43.840 So let's say I don't know the gender identity of the two individuals and I see them engaging

08:50:48.540 in a public act of intercourse, which I suppose is a crime, but there are, and it's two, there's 0.99

08:50:59.400 two penises. 1.00

08:51:00.180 I see two penises. 0.99

08:51:03.220 Would it be fair for me, but the gender identity, which is not known to me, is one of them identifies 0.99

08:51:09.320 as a woman and one of them is a cis man, I guess.

08:51:13.340 Or yeah, sure.

08:51:14.320 Would it be fair to me, for me to categorize that as a homosexual act? 0.90

08:51:18.920 Yes, if you were like calling the police, you'd be like, yo, two dudes are having sex 0.91

08:51:23.240 right now.

08:51:23.440 Did you take off all the makeup?

08:51:25.420 Yeah.

08:51:26.140 I don't have my phone.

08:51:26.960 You don't have makeup on?

08:51:27.840 I don't have my phone.

08:51:28.580 Wait, can you guys hold up?

08:51:29.820 Give me my phone.

08:51:30.040 Hold up the damage.

08:51:31.720 Girl, you're pretty. 0.71

08:51:32.940 Wait, hold it.

08:51:33.540 Hold it up.

08:51:34.000 Wait, no.

08:51:34.240 Again, this is extremely humanizing.

08:51:37.080 Wow.

08:51:37.440 I don't look like that.

08:51:38.260 Because they're all makeup.

08:51:39.220 I look great.

08:51:39.900 I know, right?

08:51:41.100 Are you going to be?

08:51:41.740 Yeah, you're really pretty.

08:51:42.500 You have like natural freckles.

08:51:45.740 No, this is extremely rude to do.

08:51:47.620 Do you know the influencer Melanie Miles?

08:51:48.980 I don't think it's rude.

08:51:49.940 Yeah, I don't care what you think.

08:51:51.660 Obviously, the majority of the women on the panel. 1.00

08:51:54.540 They love this.

08:51:55.420 They loved it.

08:51:56.840 They're not participating in it.

08:51:58.440 I'm really considerate offering you guys complimentary makeup removal.

08:52:02.400 Like, I'm considerate of your skin care.

08:52:04.600 Yeah, Jez, you're really pretty without makeup. 0.99

08:52:05.980 That's rude.

08:52:06.460 Yeah, I know.

08:52:07.080 I saw her on the flight this morning.

08:52:08.540 I was like, she's so pretty.

08:52:09.360 You look the same.

08:52:09.760 You're young and beautiful.

08:52:10.580 I actually, actually, voice cracker.

08:52:13.460 Actually.

08:52:13.760 I think it's a sign of me being just all around, just a very, very nice guy.

08:52:22.240 Yeah, it's because it's like.

08:52:23.340 No, it's kind of, it's like emasculating, but in the feminine way where you're trying to like 0.97

08:52:27.940 take a job at like a common role.

08:52:31.240 Women have to feel as though they have to participate in like getting ready to go out. 1.00

08:52:34.940 Or else if we showed, if someone showed up tonight with no makeup, you kind of feel underdressed.

08:52:38.900 Like you're not ready.

08:52:39.720 If you go to an occasion, you put on makeup.

08:52:41.840 There's rarely anyone there.

08:52:43.320 I'm, hold on.

08:52:43.980 Wait, you're all about gender liberation.

08:52:45.780 I'm literally liberating you from your.

08:52:48.800 You're trying to embarrass women by doing it though. 0.99

08:52:51.440 This is a liberation.

08:52:51.820 I'm not trying to embarrass.

08:52:53.420 Hold on.

08:52:53.900 You're ignoring the nuances of the fact that. 0.99

08:52:55.360 I'm a fucking gender liberator. 0.99

08:52:57.680 You've, thank you. 0.99

08:52:58.600 You're welcome.

08:52:59.220 I've just liberated you jazz men.

08:53:02.820 I think I, to me, makeup isn't something where I'm like, oh, I need to like change the

08:53:07.480 way I look.

08:53:07.980 I think it's very feminine.

08:53:08.920 And I think that when you dress up and look a certain way, it just looks presentable.

08:53:13.460 If that makes sense.

08:53:14.040 Like it's a standard, it's almost like an accessory to your outfit.

08:53:17.740 It's not so much like, oh, I have to wear this every single day and I can't go anywhere

08:53:21.780 without it.

08:53:22.680 And a lot of women do like cover up their insecurities that way and feel like they have to wear makeup. 1.00

08:53:27.220 And I think that sucks, but there's plenty of women who use makeup as a hobby. 1.00

08:53:32.680 There's plenty of men who use makeup as a hobby. 0.97

08:53:34.600 So I don't know.

08:53:35.980 I just think that you're kind of taking jobs at women's insecurity, potential insecurities 1.00

08:53:40.520 by handing them a makeup wipe.

08:53:44.040 Cheers.

08:53:44.860 I look like a trog without makeup, y'all.

08:53:47.560 When it comes to the makeup thing, I want to say this.

08:53:50.680 Men of you are so accustomed, so hopelessly dependent on makeup that you will fight to protect 1.00

08:53:57.200 you are a slave, born into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch, a prison for

08:54:05.560 your mind.

08:54:06.020 Where are you reading this?

08:54:06.980 I'm not reading it.

08:54:07.720 It's just a GPT.

08:54:09.000 It's up here.

08:54:09.400 This is a poem you have.

08:54:11.240 And the makeup, it's a prison for your mind.

08:54:15.800 No, I don't see it that way because I don't feel like I need it everywhere I go.

08:54:18.920 I could have shown up here tonight.

08:54:20.320 But I think that that's insecurities within themselves.

08:54:25.980 Well, I think it's socially constructed.

08:54:27.180 Have you had plastic surgery?

08:54:28.420 On my face?

08:54:29.300 Yeah.

08:54:29.640 No.

08:54:30.280 Oh, wow.

08:54:30.880 You're really pretty.

08:54:31.740 Thank you.

08:54:32.400 Yeah, no.

08:54:32.860 You actually are.

08:54:33.780 Thank you.

08:54:34.120 You've never had a nose job?

08:54:35.360 No.

08:54:36.060 I'm Eastern European, so it's like the...

08:54:38.460 Oh, no.

08:54:38.920 It looked like you...

08:54:39.900 Yeah, you look good.

08:54:40.800 Yeah.

08:54:40.940 Thank you.

08:54:41.980 Everyone, she's not Torell, but she's married. 0.98

08:54:44.200 So, don't slide in those DMs.

08:54:47.680 I think I'm liberating women. 0.52

08:54:49.360 Slide in these DMs, though.

08:54:50.860 I think the women get to decide if they're being liberated by this. 1.00

08:54:54.700 It doesn't feel very liberating.

08:54:56.240 It feels like you're stomping on women's insecurities.

08:54:58.300 I've given you an opportunity to remove the paint from your face.

08:55:02.300 Shave your beard right now on camera.

08:55:04.580 Yeah, Brian.

08:55:05.340 Let's do it.

08:55:05.920 Luckily, I'm the host of this podcast. 0.98

08:55:07.580 Yeah, luckily, you get to trash women on your podcast. 1.00

08:55:10.420 It's not trashing women, but no woman is forced to do it. 1.00

08:55:14.640 You all did it voluntarily.

08:55:15.500 It's a social construct, though.

08:55:17.880 What's a social construct?

08:55:19.520 No.

08:55:20.020 Oh, I was going to say...

08:55:20.940 Women are taught that to be presentable, they have to... 1.00

08:55:25.080 And I'm fighting against that system.

08:55:28.360 You literally sent in the message, come make up hair...

08:55:31.400 Hold on.

08:55:31.880 That's different.

08:55:32.300 Make up and hair done.

08:55:33.700 That's different.

08:55:34.160 Come like you went on the game.

08:55:35.160 That's obviously a standard put onto women. 1.00

08:55:36.920 Come with your makeup and hair done.

08:55:38.300 But that's an indication that we don't want you to be doing your hair and makeup in the

08:55:42.420 bathroom while we're trying to get the show going.

08:55:44.860 We don't want girls who aren't ready. 1.00

08:55:45.800 Or it kind of makes someone feel pressured.

08:55:47.660 Have they done that?

08:55:47.840 Like, oh, I need to do my makeup.

08:55:49.520 No.

08:55:49.540 Hold on.

08:55:49.800 They don't usually do my makeup.

08:55:50.160 First off, most women, even if we had nothing to say about makeup, they would do it anyways. 1.00

08:55:54.940 The reason...

08:55:55.460 Why is it...

08:55:55.860 Hold on.

08:55:56.480 Hold on.

08:55:57.020 The reason we say be hair and makeup ready, which is a very common phrase in the entertainment

08:56:02.100 industry, is you...

08:56:04.260 That's women. 1.00

08:56:06.960 Okay.

08:56:07.960 We want you to arrive ready to go.

08:56:10.540 We don't want you each individually.

08:56:12.720 There's like 10 panels.

08:56:13.600 I understand why you said that.

08:56:14.060 We don't want you in the bathroom for 10 minutes and the next girl's got to be in the bathroom. 1.00

08:56:18.360 The next...

08:56:18.960 Come ready to go so we can sit down and get the podcast going.

08:56:22.000 It's not...

08:56:22.480 If a girl doesn't show up with makeup, I don't care. 1.00

08:56:25.020 I do agree with that.

08:56:26.480 I've been in the entertainment.

08:56:27.260 For the podcast and for dating, I prefer women without makeup and it's slavery. 1.00

08:56:33.220 Good thing none of us are trying to date you, Brian.

08:56:35.480 Let me ask you this.

08:56:36.560 If you were taking a girl to like a fine dining, like exquisite dinner and she's like in a dress 1.00

08:56:43.980 and heels, you'd want like no makeup with full gown and heels? 1.00

08:56:48.540 Can you tilt your mic down just a bit?

08:56:49.460 Yeah.

08:56:50.980 So it's like a fine dining place, but she's otherwise dressed like appropriately for the

08:56:55.880 thing?

08:56:56.080 Like Mastro's.

08:56:57.260 I mean, there's nothing wrong with it, but in my mind, I'm like...

08:56:59.400 Look, I think you underestimate the level to which I care about anybody else. 0.99

08:57:05.820 So I don't give a fuck what like the external world, oh, he's with a girl. 0.98

08:57:11.760 I'm never going to see these people at this restaurant again. 0.99

08:57:14.080 I don't have some ego thing where I want to go to a restaurant to be seen with a hot girl. 1.00

08:57:19.300 Don't care.

08:57:19.980 We can stay at home and order DoorDash.

08:57:22.220 I don't need to be like...

08:57:24.360 If I'm at a restaurant with a girl, I don't care about the other people in the restaurant. 1.00

08:57:29.440 It's me and it's her and that's what I'm focused on.

08:57:32.780 I don't care about the other people.

08:57:34.140 If they want to judge because they want to judge me because I'm with a woman who's not

08:57:38.080 wearing makeup or they want to judge her because she's not wearing makeup, I think that's wrong. 0.99

08:57:42.420 But I just frankly don't give a fuck. 0.98

08:57:44.660 I don't mean so much like the other people, but I'm saying would you not want her to put 0.99

08:57:50.060 makeup on like ever?

08:57:52.140 I would be 100% fine being with a woman. 1.00

08:57:56.260 She need not ever put any sort of makeup on.

08:57:59.840 Now, and I actually have a preference against makeup.

08:58:03.180 Now, there's different kind of like lipstick.

08:58:05.260 Lipstick, I don't like any of the foundation or the...

08:58:08.420 What is it?

08:58:08.800 The cover-up or whatever?

08:58:09.580 Concealer.

08:58:10.220 Concealer, don't like...

08:58:11.500 Maybe I'm okay with eyeliner, but if she doesn't wear eyeliner, don't care. 0.95

08:58:15.860 You don't like makeup?

08:58:17.060 Most men don't like makeup and they don't... 0.99

08:58:18.880 They don't even know if you're wearing makeup half the time.

08:58:20.460 I think though, I've worn makeup around men and they were like, oh my God, you look so

08:58:24.000 natural.

08:58:24.360 If I do have a light face, they're like, oh my God.

08:58:26.380 Is this your natural look? 0.99

08:58:27.260 No, this is fucking... 1.00

08:58:28.240 We're done up for the cameras. 1.00

08:58:29.600 No, this is...

08:58:30.180 I got so much powder on, but I have worn a light makeup look.

08:58:33.160 I'm like, wow, you look so good without makeup.

08:58:34.800 They don't even know. 1.00

08:58:36.300 These men are dumb as fuck. 1.00

08:58:37.800 Yeah. 1.00

08:58:38.280 Yeah.

08:58:38.620 I got less comments about how much makeup I was wearing when I wore full foundation,

08:58:43.620 full concealer.

08:58:44.720 And now that I let my freckles show and I don't use full foundation, I get comments about how

08:58:49.240 I'm wearing too much makeup.

08:58:50.380 So they really don't know anything.

08:58:51.680 Yeah.

08:58:52.000 It's facts.

08:58:52.920 I think honestly, I don't wear makeup at all.

08:58:56.240 We shouldn't really care about...

08:58:57.420 You wear makeup on?

08:58:58.420 No.

08:58:59.260 Oh, you have really good skin.

08:59:00.820 Thank you.

08:59:01.360 I don't really like...

08:59:02.780 We shouldn't really care about what other people say that much because at the end of

08:59:07.020 the day, during your life, your family, your friends, your partner, those are the people

08:59:12.360 who really care about you.

08:59:13.620 And they're not going to be like, oh, I'm not going to love you if you wear makeup.

08:59:17.320 I agree, but I feel like in professional settings, there is some sort of pressure to get ready

08:59:22.960 as a woman.

08:59:23.800 And that includes wearing some amount of makeup.

08:59:25.360 I mean, I don't feel pressured though.

08:59:27.200 I think girls wear makeup so much. 1.00

08:59:28.720 The majority of women do. 0.86

08:59:30.180 I wear makeup because I like the way I look with a little bit of makeup on.

08:59:33.560 Yeah.

08:59:33.800 It's not that deep.

08:59:34.540 Women wear makeup for themselves and men would rather see you without makeup and don't even 1.00

08:59:41.500 know what's going on with your makeup.

08:59:43.100 Men have no idea what goes on with our makeup and they don't care. 1.00

08:59:46.820 But women wear makeup because they think they look prettier with it and they like it. 1.00

08:59:52.400 Okay.

08:59:53.000 Moving off of makeup, going to Lauren, you said women are just as physically strong as 1.00

08:59:57.660 men.

08:59:57.960 Why is that?

08:59:59.000 I said that?

08:59:59.860 Or you circled.

09:00:00.620 So the statement is women are just as physically strong as men, to which you agree.

09:00:04.780 And you circled.

09:00:05.400 Oh, maybe I.

09:00:06.440 Did you misread it?

09:00:07.380 Yeah.

09:00:07.640 Okay.

09:00:08.180 All right.

09:00:08.800 Obviously that's not right.

09:00:09.980 Jasmine, you said people of color can't be racist towards white people.

09:00:14.120 Yeah.

09:00:14.400 You used the other term correctly earlier.

09:00:17.380 Prejudice.

09:00:18.780 Oh, okay.

09:00:19.600 And then you also said people of color can't be racist towards white people.

09:00:24.160 Yeah.

09:00:24.880 Just don't be racist.

09:00:26.320 Oh, maybe you just misunderstood a little bit.

09:00:29.300 Misunderstood.

09:00:29.920 Yeah.

09:00:30.880 You would agree though, that like, for example, a black person could be like, it's possible

09:00:36.820 for them to be racist towards a white person.

09:00:39.700 I mean, you shouldn't be racist in general.

09:00:41.940 No, but that's not, I'm not saying, um, that they should, I'm just saying, can they,

09:00:46.860 or could they?

09:00:47.400 I don't understand really how that correlates because, I mean, like, I guess at the end

09:00:55.260 of the day, anybody can do anything they want.

09:00:58.220 So.

09:00:59.080 No, I'm not prescriptively saying that they should be racist.

09:01:02.860 I'm just asking, can they be racist?

09:01:05.940 I mean, I guess everyone can.

09:01:07.380 So.

09:01:07.760 Right.

09:01:07.940 But you're, okay, sure.

09:01:08.840 Um, so then I guess just to you, Jasmine, uh, explain why is it that people of color 1.00

09:01:13.960 can't be racist towards white people?

09:01:15.880 Um, because systemically black people don't benefit from the idea of racism, racism against 0.97

09:01:24.880 black people.

09:01:25.780 On the other hand is a systemic issue that affects people of color.

09:01:31.040 You don't think there's like individual, there are individual circumstances.

09:01:34.460 Yeah.

09:01:34.980 But, but like, for example, if I walked up to a black person and I called them the N 1.00

09:01:39.520 word, you would agree that that's racist for me to do.

09:01:42.760 Right.

09:01:43.720 Uh, so then if a black person, and then like I committed a violent crime towards them, 0.98

09:01:48.820 right. 0.96

09:01:48.940 Uh, if a black person walked up to a white person, called them the C word and then committed

09:01:54.000 a violent crime towards them, would you consider this like a racist act?

09:01:57.460 Yes.

09:01:57.820 Like a hate crime.

09:01:58.800 Yeah.

09:01:59.300 But I think.

09:02:00.240 Would it be racist though?

09:02:01.760 I mean, yeah. 1.00

09:02:02.640 If he's like, I hate all white people and simply did it because they're white. 1.00

09:02:05.900 Yes. 0.99

09:02:06.160 And he's using a, a white slur than sure.

09:02:11.080 Okay.

09:02:11.300 But, but systemically, like, again, it doesn't affect white people the same that it affects

09:02:17.520 black people.

09:02:18.060 And are, are you just, is this within the cultural zeitgeist of the United States or Western

09:02:22.440 countries?

09:02:23.760 Um, I'd say I answered that question.

09:02:26.160 Um, just with the, um, idea of the history of the United States.

09:02:33.140 Yeah.

09:02:33.560 And the experience.

09:02:34.120 If you looked at South Africa, for example, uh, where there's a, yeah, I'd say there's

09:02:39.340 a cultural difference.

09:02:40.340 There's a black majority and they occupy the majority positions of power.

09:02:44.940 Yeah. 0.71

09:02:45.660 Socioeconomic differences there compared to here. 0.96

09:02:48.420 So black people in South Africa could be racist. 0.95

09:02:50.820 Yeah. 0.99

09:02:50.880 So then I guess if we're talking geopolitically and right.

09:02:54.760 Yeah.

09:02:55.020 Including everything.

09:02:55.800 Then, yeah.

09:02:55.980 Uh, you said men are more privileged than women.

09:02:59.400 Why is that?

09:03:00.540 Also, Lauren, you said that too.

09:03:01.980 Men are more privileged.

09:03:03.020 Sorry.

09:03:03.540 Men are more privileged in society than women. 0.99

09:03:05.460 Why is that?

09:03:05.880 Um, although the patriarchy has negative effects on men as well, again, that lead to death and

09:03:14.760 suicide, um, uh, they're the oppressors.

09:03:18.520 They are at the top of the hierarchy.

09:03:21.160 Um.

09:03:21.740 Which ones?

09:03:22.860 Men.

09:03:23.920 Yeah.

09:03:24.120 But how many?

09:03:26.060 How many what?

09:03:28.000 Well, I think it would be inaccurate to state that men collectively are at the top.

09:03:33.780 Uh, only a small proportion of men are at the top.

09:03:36.460 Who are you suggesting that is?

09:03:38.000 What do you mean?

09:03:38.280 Or how many?

09:03:39.540 Oh, like point.

09:03:40.880 Who are the few?

09:03:41.800 Point zero, zero, zero, zero, one percent of men have any power or say in this country. 0.98

09:03:48.420 Okay.

09:03:48.860 Sure.

09:03:49.360 I mean, if we're talking about like owners and businesses and stuff like that, but if

09:03:52.940 we're talking it.

09:03:53.560 And like politics too.

09:03:55.160 Yeah.

09:03:56.160 I guess you could say that, but it is men at the top, right?

09:03:58.480 In every sort of sector, business owning, politics, men are at the top.

09:04:05.180 They are the majority.

09:04:06.380 Yeah.

09:04:06.560 But like myself, for example, I have no more say than a woman does. 1.00

09:04:13.100 And that would apply to the vast majority of other men too.

09:04:16.260 So you're, I mean, what you're doing here is an apex fallacy.

09:04:18.940 You're looking at the top, top, top percent of apex of men and you're.

09:04:23.280 But they're the top in every category.

09:04:25.220 Not necessarily.

09:04:27.280 What instances would you say women are? 1.00

09:04:31.720 Oh, sure.

09:04:32.180 In the hierarchy.

09:04:32.760 Well, when you say every category, what do you mean?

09:04:35.400 Like again, CEOs, businesses, politics, like creating the laws, owning the money, paying

09:04:42.740 the people.

09:04:43.760 Like there's female CEOs. 1.00

09:04:45.140 There's 5%.

09:04:45.960 Politicians.

09:04:46.600 5%.

09:04:47.180 Is that the actual number?

09:04:49.940 Yes.

09:04:50.360 We can look it up.

09:04:51.020 Sure.

09:04:51.180 I'll grant it.

09:04:52.220 Sure.

09:04:52.660 And that's not because women have less drive. 1.00

09:04:56.140 It has to do with like the structure of.

09:04:58.480 Actually.

09:04:59.040 Well, do you also believe in the wage gap, right?

09:05:02.360 I didn't put that.

09:05:03.440 No.

09:05:03.720 Oh, no.

09:05:05.620 Do you think that there could be like an evolutionary or biological explanation for

09:05:10.000 why men occupy these positions of power that wouldn't be related to like sexism or

09:05:15.280 patriarchy or male privilege?

09:05:17.000 I think women aren't able to succeed in positions in business or become a CEO because they are 1.00

09:05:26.320 kind of tied down to these roles of being the homemaker and taking care of the kid.

09:05:31.420 And of course, there are the biological factors where the baby feeds from the mother.

09:05:35.920 So there is this time and period where the mother has to physically be there with the child.

09:05:40.240 But I think there are instances after that where the father could hold equal responsibility.

09:05:45.420 But we just kind of push those responsibilities on to women even after they aren't necessarily 1.00

09:05:50.100 needed to be there 100% of the time.

09:05:52.120 So then they're less likely to give their time to their career in business and becoming

09:05:57.180 a CEO.

09:05:58.260 I mean, in order to propagate the species, you need to have women who are going to give 1.00

09:06:02.400 birth.

09:06:02.760 So obviously, a subset of women are going to have children. 1.00

09:06:06.460 And that that does have an impact, but that's a large disparity, just 5% of women are. 1.00

09:06:12.600 Yeah, I think that could be explained in a bunch of ways.

09:06:14.680 I think one of the arguments I like to make that is related to dating, actually, is that

09:06:19.380 this occurs actually to to a mating pressure that women create in men that isn't created 1.00

09:06:26.840 back at them.

09:06:28.020 So let me ask you a question.

09:06:29.720 Do you find men who are like at the top of their field attractive or would you find them

09:06:34.220 attractive?

09:06:36.460 Based on, uh, do you think like success, successful men, do you think that they're more attractive

09:06:42.180 than guys who work at like McDonald's?

09:06:45.160 Um, yeah, I guess just looking at that.

09:06:48.160 It shows drive.

09:06:48.940 Yeah.

09:06:49.180 It has some traits correlated.

09:06:51.340 You would find that attractive, right?

09:06:52.980 Yes.

09:06:53.440 Okay.

09:06:53.720 And then you want men to pay for first dates. 1.00

09:06:57.180 Yeah.

09:06:57.720 Okay.

09:06:58.060 And then you want a guy to perhaps do maybe a majority of the providing if you're in a

09:07:04.020 long-term relationship with him.

09:07:05.620 And if you do, if you do eventually have kids.

09:07:09.760 Again, this doesn't necessarily relate to me because that.

09:07:12.720 Because you're unsure about having kids.

09:07:14.260 Yeah.

09:07:14.500 And I, and I'm not sure that I would want them to take care of the majority of expenses.

09:07:18.500 Would you want a guy to make at least as much money as you make? 0.98

09:07:22.060 I think we should be about the same.

09:07:23.940 About the same.

09:07:24.660 Yeah.

09:07:24.780 And then do you find men who have, who are high status?

09:07:28.280 Do you find them attractive?

09:07:30.360 High status.

09:07:31.640 Yeah.

09:07:31.940 So, I mean, I, we could look at the entertainment industry, so it could be like a professional

09:07:35.940 athlete, professional musician, uh, or, uh, a list celebrity.

09:07:40.320 So actor, musician, athlete.

09:07:42.860 I think there might be statistics on this, that people in those roles and high status roles,

09:07:47.980 as you're saying, cheat more.

09:07:50.160 Sure.

09:07:50.600 Or, uh, so I find that not really attractive.

09:07:53.120 I'm not necessarily into athletes and actors and.

09:07:56.900 You wouldn't specifically find that appealing?

09:07:59.100 No.

09:07:59.480 Okay.

09:08:00.080 Uh, but you did say that you would find a guy who has status attractive.

09:08:04.200 You want a guy to pay for first dates. 0.99

09:08:05.580 So by women's own stated, uh, unrevealed and revealed dating preferences. 0.99

09:08:12.700 And I think it would actually make a lot of sense why men occupy these positions of power

09:08:19.480 more so than women, because you create a substantial mating pressure on men to want to succeed to

09:08:26.140 not just to make money, but to get status.

09:08:28.240 And if having status means being at the top of the hierarchy in whatever field that it could

09:08:33.540 be anything, if getting status, being at the type top of the hierarchy makes you a more

09:08:39.220 attractive mate to women, then women's own dating preferences would seem to be a substantial 0.99

09:08:46.100 contributor to why men occupy the top positions of power. 1.00

09:08:50.000 Because I don't know about you, but I think one of the most heavily motivating factors for

09:08:55.540 most people would be finding a partner, finding, uh, for women, finding boyfriend, finding husband

09:09:01.880 for, for men, finding a wife, finding a girlfriend, it's extremely motivating.

09:09:07.600 In fact, I think men are actually more motivated.

09:09:09.920 Well, at least they're sexual.

09:09:11.000 They're more sexually motivated.

09:09:12.520 So as a man, if you're not successful, if you don't have money, if you don't have some

09:09:17.040 degree of status, it makes it harder for you to find a woman, whether it's just for short

09:09:22.160 term casual sex, whether it's a relationship, whether it's marriage and whether it's to have

09:09:26.120 kids women, you don't have that same barrier as a woman. 1.00

09:09:29.300 You can work a minimum wage job and you can still find a partner.

09:09:32.500 Men really don't care about your status, your money, your success. 1.00

09:09:35.840 So you, women's own dating preferences have a massive impact on this. 1.00

09:09:40.940 We have standards and you don't, I don't get why you're upset.

09:09:45.020 No, I'm not upset, but I'm arguing the point.

09:09:47.200 You're saying, well, why is it that, uh, 5% of women occupy these positions of power? 1.00

09:09:52.820 I would have these CEO jobs.

09:09:55.320 You think most men are CEOs or they occupy those spaces more because they want to

09:09:59.200 attract women. 0.99

09:10:00.060 That's the only, or do you think they just have more access to opportunity than women 1.00

09:10:05.400 do because women are, Oh, I would, I would definitely say that, well, I think there's 1.00

09:10:10.440 multiple components for why people want to, to achieve in life.

09:10:13.980 But I would say that, uh, yeah, I think men are highly motivated by getting sex and they're

09:10:19.300 highly motivated by finding a wife.

09:10:21.960 Do you not agree though, that the standards that we put on women to take care of children 0.84

09:10:26.780 makes it harder for them to succeed in these roles?

09:10:31.680 It, it slims their opportunity.

09:10:33.800 No, I don't think so.

09:10:35.140 It's like baseline two jobs, like overtime.

09:10:40.100 Yeah.

09:10:40.480 But nothing, I mean, if, if, if a woman wants to prioritize her career, she absolutely can.

09:10:45.640 And women who do prior prioritize their career, they're about 5% though.

09:10:49.600 That's why there's this discrepancy.

09:10:51.300 Cause not all, I, I, and I think there's like a, there's a, not an aptitude, but there's

09:10:56.960 a lack of perhaps desire.

09:11:00.040 Men have this massive motivating factor.

09:11:02.760 It's basically like, I think men are more motivated and women are less motivated. 0.72

09:11:10.820 You disagree?

09:11:11.740 Yeah, I disagree.

09:11:12.920 Okay.

09:11:13.380 But you would agree that, would you agree with me that the following is true?

09:11:16.620 Um, men don't really care about a woman's money or her success or her career.

09:11:22.160 Yes.

09:11:22.900 Okay.

09:11:23.320 So then, and would you agree?

09:11:25.200 I don't think that makes up for the large disparity that we're seeing.

09:11:28.600 I think it may, I actually think it makes up for a significant amount of disparity.

09:11:31.760 That's where we disagree, I guess.

09:11:32.880 I don't know how. 0.99

09:11:33.300 Do you think men work jobs to make money just for the fuck of it? 0.99

09:11:37.840 Like they just do it, you know, like most men. 1.00

09:11:40.500 You know, I kind of assumed so because I crave success just for the fuck of it. 0.99

09:11:44.560 Yeah, so I kind of, well, this is the difference. 0.98

09:11:46.820 This is a bit of a difference between men and women.

09:11:48.780 So men work hard so that they can provide for their family.

09:11:53.380 Men work hard so they can provide for their wife. 0.70

09:11:57.300 They work hard so they can provide for their kids.

09:11:59.720 Really?

09:12:00.580 Yeah, men.

09:12:01.080 Yeah, they could sleep on the floor.

09:12:03.040 Like men are so simple.

09:12:04.480 That's all they're worth.

09:12:05.580 Have you been to a guy's house?

09:12:07.500 He doesn't have like.

09:12:08.480 That's it, period.

09:12:09.080 All these, I don't know. 1.00

09:12:10.160 He doesn't need all this shit. 1.00

09:12:11.300 Like men make, do all this hard work for their family so they can one day have a family. 1.00

09:12:18.940 They can provide for their wife and they can provide for their children.

09:12:23.220 Men want to work hard for that. 0.95

09:12:26.180 When men work hard and make a lot of money, they think, oh great, I can provide for a wife 1.00

09:12:30.340 and children.

09:12:31.000 When women work really hard and make a bunch of money, they think, I don't need a man. 1.00

09:12:35.320 And that's a totally different psychology.

09:12:41.080 So you think you're working hard for these TTSs for your girl?

09:12:45.240 Yeah, one day I want to have children.

09:12:48.240 Brian, that's really romantic.

09:12:50.100 Yes, I'm working hard.

09:12:51.580 Wait, I really, you know what, deep down I know you're like actually a hopeless romantic.

09:12:57.000 I'm not like, I'm not really about, I'm not really about like material goods.

09:13:02.880 I still drive a car I bought over a decade ago.

09:13:06.280 I don't need like a super fancy car.

09:13:08.740 Don't care.

09:13:09.660 I wear sweatpants from Costco.

09:13:12.000 You have big lady of matter. 1.00

09:13:13.420 There you go. 0.99

09:13:14.020 I don't need any of that superficial material shit. 0.99

09:13:16.700 I don't care. 0.98

09:13:17.780 I really don't care.

09:13:19.360 And so look.

09:13:20.820 That makes my heart, that's so, aww.

09:13:22.980 But yeah, that's, that's what I'm, it's to support my family.

09:13:26.600 That, that can include my parents.

09:13:28.840 That can, I want to make sure my parents are good.

09:13:31.040 I think you need to get out of Santa Barbara to find your soulmate.

09:13:33.600 Santa Barbara's fine, but.

09:13:34.780 You're not going to find your soulmate here.

09:13:36.500 I really feel like your soulmate is not here. 1.00

09:13:40.720 The fuck? 1.00

09:13:41.440 Okay, cool. 1.00

09:13:42.120 Yeah, so I'm going to like detour, but like, yeah, everyone, Brian's soulmate is not here.

09:13:46.240 Let's get him to get out of here.

09:13:47.640 All right, next.

09:13:48.380 Yeah, let's move on.

09:13:49.380 Let's move on.

09:13:50.620 But, okay.

09:13:51.420 Adios amigo.

09:13:52.120 Yeah, so how are men more privileged in society?

09:13:54.120 Shout out, hate them and shout out, love you guys.

09:13:55.380 Back up, girls. 1.00

09:13:56.260 How are men more privileged in society?

09:13:58.180 You also circled that one?

09:13:59.860 Shout out, Dave.

09:14:00.660 Just from, like, basic beginning of time, they make more money.

09:14:07.220 Mm-hmm.

09:14:07.800 Because, obviously, we get pregnant.

09:14:09.780 We have to take time off.

09:14:10.900 We have to raise the children.

09:14:12.420 That's just literally biology and, I mean, it's not, there's no argument there.

09:14:18.860 Okay.

09:14:19.140 Like, it's, there's no argument.

09:14:20.420 Sure.

09:14:20.600 Jasmine, you said women are oppressed in the USA. 0.99

09:14:23.400 How are they oppressed?

09:14:27.440 I also think that men are oppressed in some ways.

09:14:30.740 Are women more oppressed? 1.00

09:14:32.140 I add to that.

09:14:35.320 Men are the oppressors, but I don't know if we can say on an equal, I don't know if, I don't

09:14:42.500 know how we can compare.

09:14:45.840 Which men, though?

09:14:46.960 That's what I don't understand.

09:14:48.140 I don't know what you mean by that either.

09:14:48.720 What if it's just rich people?

09:14:50.580 And it doesn't matter that they're men.

09:14:52.240 It's just that they're rich and they have power.

09:14:54.180 But if we look at the numbers, like, the richest people, majority are men.

09:15:00.000 And there's a reason for that.

09:15:02.520 Apparently for.

09:15:04.840 For what?

09:15:05.660 Women. 0.81

09:15:06.980 Yeah, that's one of the reasons.

09:15:09.740 Okay.

09:15:11.040 So how are women oppressed, though? 1.00

09:15:12.800 Like, what specifically?

09:15:13.960 How are they oppressed?

09:15:15.000 Again, I think the patriarchy oppresses everyone.

09:15:17.680 Yeah, no, but how are women oppressed? 1.00

09:15:19.800 The standards put upon women that we have to be homemakers or feel social pressure to wear

09:15:26.300 makeup every day.

09:15:27.180 Yeah, but then I would just say, okay, men are oppressed because there's a social pressure

09:15:30.300 I agree.

09:15:31.660 And by women that we need to be protectors and providers. 1.00

09:15:35.960 But that's not by women. 1.00

09:15:37.280 That's by men themselves.

09:15:40.060 Men have created this system.

09:15:42.940 I think oppression is something completely different, though.

09:15:45.940 Like, I would call, I would call, like, countries in poverty oppressed.

09:15:53.600 I wouldn't call anybody in America oppressed.

09:15:55.980 I don't think having a societal standard pushed on you is being oppressed.

09:16:01.560 It's just kind of, like, your expectation to create a healthy and thriving society.

09:16:06.440 And if we were to say, well, nobody should be expected of anything and everybody can just

09:16:11.140 do whatever they want, which is what's happening in our society, it's going downhill very quickly

09:16:16.380 because of that.

09:16:17.600 I think when a certain demographic of people are disproportionately, like, disenfranchised.

09:16:23.380 How are women disenfranchised? 1.00

09:16:24.760 Well, I mean, you can include race in this, too.

09:16:27.720 She's just talking about the existence of oppression.

09:16:29.520 She doesn't think there is oppression in America. 0.91

09:16:32.200 I think when there's, like, stark differences between demographics and success rates, that

09:16:38.760 shows that there's some form of hierarchy which then expresses there must be some form of

09:16:45.200 oppression happening.

09:16:46.080 But do you think it's because of oppression or just simply because men are making more

09:16:52.140 money because women don't, not as many women work as much as many men and women take off 0.99

09:16:58.460 time to stay at home?

09:16:58.900 Yeah, I think the structure that that exists under is oppressive.

09:17:03.180 I'm not saying men are doing this, this, and that.

09:17:05.880 You just said men are the oppressors.

09:17:07.220 Well, they have, they are at the top of the hierarchy.

09:17:10.940 Would you not agree?

09:17:14.100 The people who are at the top of the hierarchy typically tend to be men, but it's not clear

09:17:20.960 to me if they're there simply by virtue of being men.

09:17:24.880 I don't think they're given it on a silver platter because they're men.

09:17:28.680 And the VAT, 99.999% of men have no more power than women. 0.55

09:17:36.000 But I think men benefit from that top, top percent being men.

09:17:41.060 How?

09:17:42.200 I mean, because they're not having laws made about their bodies.

09:17:48.800 Yeah, they do.

09:17:49.900 Well, sure, in the instances that you referenced before.

09:17:52.640 But again, that's by men, for men, by men.

09:17:55.260 I don't understand this.

09:17:56.320 So they're the oppressor and they're also oppressed.

09:17:58.160 I don't know how to explain that.

09:17:59.140 But what if it has nothing to do with them being men?

09:18:01.860 What if it's just they happen to be elites or they happen to just have power?

09:18:06.400 Well, why do you think that is?

09:18:07.320 Why is there a disparity between?

09:18:09.540 Because there's hierarchies in societies and some people are going to rise to the top of

09:18:13.680 a hierarchy.

09:18:14.440 It's inevitable.

09:18:15.440 Yeah.

09:18:15.700 And mostly they're men.

09:18:16.900 Why is that?

09:18:19.560 Why?

09:18:20.020 I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons.

09:18:21.420 Evolutionary, biological, social, cultural.

09:18:23.360 Exactly.

09:18:23.960 Yeah.

09:18:24.180 I mean, I completely agree with all of that.

09:18:26.420 Why do you think there's never been a matriarchy? 1.00

09:18:28.160 Um, I don't know.

09:18:31.840 Has there, you're saying there's always been a patriarchy?

09:18:35.400 Uh, patriarchy is inevitable.

09:18:38.040 Uh, but there have been societies where matriarchies exist, right? 1.00

09:18:41.580 No.

09:18:42.020 Not in like Western.

09:18:43.060 There's been matrilineal societies, but there's not really a matriarchy.

09:18:46.720 Well, I wonder if the patriarchy has only ever existed or the matriarchy hasn't because the 1.00

09:18:51.320 patriarchy has always existed. 0.56

09:18:53.560 Uh, you know what I mean?

09:18:54.360 How do we deconstruct the patriarchy to then create a matriarchy? 1.00

09:18:57.460 You shouldn't.

09:18:57.900 Well, exactly.

09:18:58.660 But I think that we don't have a matriarchy because we simply always had a patriarchy.

09:19:02.900 Well, I mean, look, Andrew argues this way better than I do.

09:19:05.660 So I'll give the super short version.

09:19:08.520 So, I mean, it comes down to force, force doctrine.

09:19:12.500 You would agree that men are physically stronger than women? 0.81

09:19:15.340 Okay.

09:19:16.300 So who are the, who are the enforcers in society?

09:19:19.960 Men or women, typically?

09:19:21.340 The enforcers?

09:19:22.720 Enforcers.

09:19:23.300 Men.

09:19:23.780 Right.

09:19:24.140 And all the laws that we have, you know, if somebody commits a crime, who do you call?

09:19:28.920 9-1-1.

09:19:29.820 Right.

09:19:30.020 And who's going to show up typically?

09:19:32.320 Police.

09:19:32.980 And is he a man?

09:19:34.840 Uh, I don't know the statistics on that.

09:19:37.000 I feel like there's a lot of female officers. 1.00

09:19:39.040 Female cops, but it's mostly men. 0.99

09:19:40.480 More men than women. 0.98

09:19:40.760 Is it mostly men?

09:19:41.660 It's probably pretty close, right?

09:19:42.840 And then if you look at the military, it's predominantly men also.

09:19:45.700 Yes.

09:19:46.080 So, well, women, women pretty recently got the right to be active in the military. 0.77

09:19:51.080 Right.

09:19:51.380 But I mean, I think.

09:19:52.200 So we're not really socialized to go in that direction as much as men.

09:19:55.080 Right.

09:19:55.340 But even if there was, uh, let me ask you a question.

09:19:57.580 Let's say you had a prison.

09:19:59.520 You're the warden of a prison and you could choose to hire, and it's, it's a male prison.

09:20:04.060 You could choose to hire, uh, all male prison guards or all female prison guards.

09:20:09.620 Which do you pick?

09:20:10.180 Honestly, the women probably pay more attention to like the locks being locked and stuff like 1.00

09:20:19.000 that.

09:20:19.560 Just the logistics stance.

09:20:21.560 But if we're planning on like an escape and we need strong men, if that's the particular

09:20:26.560 situation.

09:20:27.560 How do you keep, but okay.

09:20:29.480 You know, the inmates, they go out of their cells.

09:20:32.560 Oh, okay.

09:20:33.040 Yeah.

09:20:33.460 What, so what happens if the inmates riot?

09:20:36.060 You're saying we need men instead.

09:20:37.780 You need men.

09:20:39.060 You need men because when it comes to force, you need men who are able to, uh, exert force

09:20:47.180 upon other people and upon other men.

09:20:51.600 I get the physical instance, but why do you think that they should be at the top of, I don't

09:20:57.320 know, like.

09:20:57.800 I'm not, I'm not saying should, I'm just speaking descriptively.

09:21:00.460 Okay.

09:21:00.700 I'm talking about, I'm not saying this is how it should be.

09:21:03.360 I'm just talking about like what is descriptively true.

09:21:07.420 So it is descriptively true that women need to appeal to men as it relates to their rights. 0.99

09:21:13.800 For example, in Afghanistan, uh, when, you know, the U S left, for example, the Taliban

09:21:19.840 came back to power and women lost their rights. 1.00

09:21:23.620 So women or men give men or excuse me, men give women their rights. 0.92

09:21:32.540 And as women, you have to appeal to men for your rights. 1.00

09:21:37.180 Okay.

09:21:37.660 And I'm just speaking descriptively.

09:21:39.000 I'm not saying that this, this is how it should be, but that's just how it is.

09:21:42.640 So at any given moment, if men wanted to, they could take away and walk back women's rights. 1.00

09:21:49.560 Okay.

09:21:50.080 Awesome.

09:21:50.500 So then you understand that, that, that, that shows that they are in a hierarchy position

09:21:55.260 above women and they are there for the oppressors because at any moment they could withdraw those 1.00

09:22:00.080 rights and it'd be more obviously oppressive, but now it's more hidden behind.

09:22:05.320 Oh, you have the right to vote.

09:22:06.480 I disagree.

09:22:07.240 It would point, it would point to the benevolence of men, not to the oppressive nature of men.

09:22:14.220 They're so kind.

09:22:15.600 Yes, absolutely.

09:22:16.920 We're giving you that is what you're saying.

09:22:19.540 Like men are like, you should be happy with what we've given you is what you're saying.

09:22:23.300 Well, I think women should be happy for all kinds of things. 1.00

09:22:25.460 Men have given them through, through men.

09:22:27.980 So you agree that we only have what men allow us to have.

09:22:31.220 No, that's not what I'm saying.

09:22:32.300 I'm saying one, you should be thankful.

09:22:35.320 For the men who keep you safe while you sleep comfortably from who from, from the, of invading 0.99

09:22:43.240 foreign nation, you should be thankful for the soldiers.

09:22:46.840 You should be thankful for rough men who keep you safe while you sleep comfortably at night.

09:22:53.240 Safe from who?

09:22:54.620 Sure.

09:22:54.960 I'll go ahead and say other men.

09:22:58.080 What would that matter though?

09:23:00.460 What would it actually matter?

09:23:01.680 I'm just saying you're, you're agreeing that women only have the rights that we have at

09:23:06.900 the hands of men.

09:23:08.100 Yes.

09:23:08.560 They could roll it back at any time.

09:23:09.980 They could, if they wanted to.

09:23:10.940 Yeah.

09:23:12.180 I'm speaking descriptively.

09:23:14.220 Yes.

09:23:14.580 But you're also saying that that's not oppressive, that they don't have power.

09:23:18.220 Like they haven't given us, but that's just, that's just factually true.

09:23:23.320 That's what I'm saying though, that men are the oppressors, not that they wouldn't make

09:23:26.340 them oppressors necessarily.

09:23:28.520 If we only have what we have at the hands of men.

09:23:31.380 But that's an, that's an inevitability.

09:23:34.540 If in your opinion, I think it's just the structure that we live under makes it inevitable.

09:23:38.860 I think we need to define the term oppressed because it's like, I just don't, I can't get

09:23:45.180 behind that term in America.

09:23:46.960 We're so like, all of us are privileged here and I'll use that word for the circumstance.

09:23:53.420 Look, ultimately, I would say that this actually points towards men's benevolence and you rely 0.95

09:23:59.340 on men to be the protectors and providers of society.

09:24:03.000 Everything that you see around you, like the roads you drive on, the building you live

09:24:08.260 in, I don't know if you have a nice apartment that you live in.

09:24:10.540 Most of the, uh, comforts of modernity are all due to men's genius in, uh, ingenuity.

09:24:18.700 It all is due to men.

09:24:20.640 You can, you can.

09:24:21.820 Men have only ever had the opportunity to do so.

09:24:25.640 Women haven't always had the opportunity. 1.00

09:24:27.900 If it wasn't for men, y'all would still be living in like grass huts and shit. 0.99

09:24:31.780 Why do you think that? 0.99

09:24:32.600 What happened when all the men went to war and like World War I and World War II?

09:24:36.280 Women weren't building stuff. 1.00

09:24:37.740 In order to build.

09:24:38.580 Yes, we were.

09:24:39.220 It was the industrial revolution.

09:24:41.380 Women went into the factories and took care of work. 1.00

09:24:43.700 Women don't have. 1.00

09:24:45.140 Outside of homes.

09:24:45.840 Hold on.

09:24:46.480 Women don't have the requisite physical strength for an industrial society. 1.00

09:24:52.180 They just simply don't for it to have ever even been a possibility.

09:24:57.240 What about ingenuity?

09:24:58.760 Like thought, like creating some sort of mechanism that can lift.

09:25:02.340 The thing that women can't lift. 1.00

09:25:03.960 The necessary.

09:25:05.200 So like if we're going all the way.

09:25:06.720 Like do we not have the brain power either?

09:25:08.220 If we're starting all the way from agriculture and then moving into industrialization and

09:25:14.620 moving into the technology era, there needed to be the physical strength of men as the foundation 0.97

09:25:22.360 and bedrock for all the, the sort of, the, the, sorry, they're fucking talking back. 0.96

09:25:29.920 Guys, be quiet, please. 0.97

09:25:30.840 Back there.

09:25:31.740 There needed to be that foundation of physical strength that even enabled the comforts that we currently enjoy and that we take for granted.

09:25:40.140 Do you realize how 200 years ago, just 200 years ago.

09:25:43.580 So that's like a couple of generations back, right?

09:25:47.600 There wasn't electricity.

09:25:49.400 There wasn't running water.

09:25:51.160 There wasn't showers.

09:25:53.520 The things we take so for granted, you, you don't even think about these things.

09:25:59.500 But you think women wouldn't have invented these things if they were put in positions that men were put into? 0.98

09:26:05.260 If there were a matriarchy? 1.00

09:26:06.540 I'm saying the, through the chronological order of invention, none of this would have been possible without the just brute physical strength of men.

09:26:16.560 It's just wouldn't have been possible.

09:26:24.060 I think with the inventive and creative nature of women, it could have been possible. 1.00

09:26:28.680 I mean, women just don't, right? 1.00

09:26:30.400 Like, so you're saying, okay, if women had bulldozers, then they could use the strength of machinery to do these jobs for them. 1.00

09:26:39.680 Women would have gotten it done. 1.00

09:26:40.940 I don't know where you get this concept that it just wouldn't have been done.

09:26:43.100 No, there's like a, I'm trying to think of the specific word here.

09:26:46.100 There's, there's a bottleneck.

09:26:48.140 There's a historical bottleneck that, that women just based on their physical strength would not have been able to pass through if it wasn't for male strength. 0.99

09:27:00.400 So there's a bottleneck that exists.

09:27:04.700 Like I don't, the, the industrial revolution in order to build the machinery that would have even enabled women to do some of these tasks that wouldn't have been possible without the requisite strength of men. 0.99

09:27:20.860 I think it would have taken maybe more women and other mechanisms to do so, but it would have gotten done. 1.00

09:27:28.800 I think it's like blasphemous really to say that we wouldn't be as advanced as we are without the brute strength of men.

09:27:35.260 Well, it's not just the brute strength of men.

09:27:36.800 It's also the genius.

09:27:38.340 Well, it's that, but it's also the genius and the ingenuity of men.

09:27:41.400 And you think women lack that? 1.00

09:27:44.160 No, I actually think, I think if you look at the, I think if you look at the average IQ of women, it's actually, uh, women, uh, there's more women who have a, I suppose, a higher IQ.

09:27:55.380 Wait, let me frame this correctly.

09:27:56.780 It's called the, uh, greater variability hypothesis.

09:28:00.800 So essentially what you have is there's more women who have a higher average IQ than the average man. 1.00

09:28:08.060 But if you look at the extremes, so you have a bunch of really stupid men, but then you have a greater proportion of very highly intelligent, high IQ men who are geniuses. 0.92

09:28:19.160 And there are women geniuses too, but because of the greater male variability, you're going to have more male geniuses and, uh, more men. 1.00

09:28:26.980 Do you think being a genius is, uh, genetically predetermined and tied to gender?

09:28:31.720 Or do you think maybe men have that outlier of being extremely smart and inventive because they've had ample opportunity and time to do so because they're not taking care of a kid at home?

09:28:42.300 Oh, I would agree that there's a nature and nurture and I'm not, women absolutely can be geniuses. 1.00

09:28:48.660 What I'm saying is, and I don't know if it's just like, uh, this is just how, you know, the distribution when it comes to biology, evolution, whatever. 1.00

09:28:57.280 Again, you got a bunch of stupid fucking men. 1.00

09:29:00.860 There's way more stupid men than there are like really stupid women, but there's also a bunch of really, really genius, like high, high, high IQ men. 1.00

09:29:09.620 And you think that's because of nature mainly? 1.00

09:29:11.300 I think it's both.

09:29:11.980 I think it's nature and nurture.

09:29:13.620 I think that disparity and like outlier only exists because of it.

09:29:17.220 I got to move it on though.

09:29:18.220 Go ahead.

09:29:18.480 I got to move it on.

09:29:19.380 Uh, oh, can we have you guys rejoin the table, please?

09:29:22.540 I'm sorry. 1.00

09:29:23.260 I'm fucking you. 0.99

09:29:24.220 Rejoin the table, please. 1.00

09:29:26.100 I got a question for the entire panel.

09:29:27.840 Of course.

09:29:28.620 Of course.

09:29:30.020 Guys, we are, I do see some of the chats that have come through Lulu.

09:29:33.520 I'm going to pull this up.

09:29:34.660 $69 TTS.

09:29:35.660 Can you pull that up?

09:29:36.320 How many viewers do we have?

09:29:37.140 We still have, uh, we got about 5,500 viewers.

09:29:41.160 Hi, viewers.

09:29:42.120 What's up?

09:29:42.780 Okay.

09:29:42.980 Just sit down, please.

09:29:44.040 Oh, sorry.

09:29:44.740 Lulu donated $200.

09:29:46.560 I'm so sorry, Brian.

09:29:47.660 And I, I'm a good candidate, but I'm just also, I'm getting a little Delulu here.

09:29:53.160 Men don't. 0.98

09:29:54.320 I'm getting a little Delulu here.

09:29:56.300 I feel you.

09:29:57.520 You feel me?

09:29:58.280 I feel you.

09:29:58.820 This is the long stream for you.

09:30:00.320 60% unmarried incoming.

09:30:03.820 Uh, yo, Lulu, thank you very much for that.

09:30:06.220 Appreciate it.

09:30:06.880 We'll let two 69s come in. 1.00

09:30:08.700 Hi, Lulu.

09:30:09.200 We're going to finish up.

09:30:09.760 Then we'll get, we'll get out of here.

09:30:11.440 Love you, Lulu. 1.00

09:30:12.000 And we have the TikToks, but shit. 0.99

09:30:13.820 Thank you for the $200. 0.99

09:30:15.700 Yeah.

09:30:15.940 You should Venmo me. 1.00

09:30:16.800 Send me that shit, baby. 1.00

09:30:20.440 All right. 1.00

09:30:21.260 Oh, Clayne, I think you triggered the spam thing.

09:30:25.540 So 69, 69, 69.

09:30:27.120 Sorry, Clayne, you triggered the spam blocker.

09:30:30.020 Uh, thank you for the message though.

09:30:31.420 Appreciate it, brother.

09:30:32.440 Wait, hold on.

09:30:33.300 Did this one not come through?

09:30:34.280 I'm shaking a little.

09:30:35.020 Oh, I didn't change it.

09:30:36.160 Can you read this one from Toast?

09:30:37.540 Sorry, I need to change this.

09:30:39.100 Oh, is this mine?

09:30:39.760 That's mine.

09:30:40.260 Yeah.

09:30:40.480 Jazz, can you read this one?

09:30:41.240 Oh, sure.

09:30:42.380 Oh.

09:30:43.740 Here, I'll replay it.

09:30:44.660 Brian, be careful with giving phones back.

09:30:48.660 Went away.

09:30:49.120 Might have a wiretap and problem.

09:30:51.680 Chair two was on the phone with someone.

09:30:53.560 Also chair five.

09:30:54.360 You're right.

09:30:54.720 Men don't provide. 1.00

09:30:55.500 Protect women until married. 1.00

09:30:56.520 Don't know them.

09:30:57.380 Why are you scared about me being on the phone?

09:31:00.900 Snitch, too.

09:31:01.820 Snitch?

09:31:02.220 We're on live stream, baby. 0.99

09:31:03.560 What the fuck am I snitching on? 0.99

09:31:05.660 Going around the table on this, a woman's past should not matter. 1.00

09:31:08.700 Do you agree with that?

09:31:11.580 Me?

09:31:11.980 Yeah, yeah, you.

09:31:12.460 Go ahead.

09:31:13.320 It clearly matters.

09:31:14.260 I'm going around the table, yeah? 0.99

09:31:15.320 It clearly fucking matters. 0.99

09:31:16.880 Okay. 0.99

09:31:17.300 A woman's passion doesn't matter? 1.00

09:31:19.160 A woman's past should not matter. 1.00

09:31:22.160 Do you agree?

09:31:23.220 It does, but if you don't tell them, then it doesn't matter.

09:31:26.520 Facts, period.

09:31:27.180 So you would lie about your body count, basically?

09:31:29.840 Yeah.

09:31:31.180 Yes.

09:31:31.500 Who here has lied about their body count to a guy?

09:31:33.960 Yep.

09:31:35.280 I just, you just don't, I don't ask and I don't know.

09:31:37.280 Should body count matter?

09:31:38.540 They eventually find out.

09:31:40.160 It does. 0.99

09:31:41.100 I tell them when I'm really fucked up. 0.96

09:31:42.680 If I'm on like a good drug, I'll tell them. 0.98

09:31:45.180 Okay.

09:31:46.300 What's your body count?

09:31:47.820 Oh, God.

09:31:50.160 What's your body count?

09:31:51.000 No, what, start here.

09:31:52.260 Oh, 468.

09:31:55.080 Okay.

09:31:55.700 Jazz, what about you?

09:31:56.800 I won't be answering that.

09:31:58.040 My parents are watching.

09:31:59.040 That's fine.

09:31:59.380 Do you want to give a, well.

09:32:00.220 Shout out Jazz's parents.

09:32:01.280 It's a very, it's a very normal amount for a 23-year-old, I think.

09:32:05.980 I don't know.

09:32:06.360 Look up the average amount.

09:32:07.640 Is that like a step?

09:32:08.340 I think the average is like.

09:32:09.440 Parents watching?

09:32:10.660 She's a zero. 0.99

09:32:11.580 You have 33?

09:32:12.560 No, well under.

09:32:13.740 Oh my God.

09:32:14.500 Do you want to do a range like 10 to 20?

09:32:16.880 20 to 30?

09:32:19.400 On the lower end of that.

09:32:21.440 Of 20 to 30?

09:32:22.840 No, the other.

09:32:23.480 Of 10 to 20? 1.00

09:32:24.280 Jazz, you're a fucking star. 1.00

09:32:26.140 You're a star, Jazz. 1.00

09:32:27.000 You're a star as fuck. 1.00

09:32:28.200 Felicity? 1.00

09:32:29.240 Body count?

09:32:29.560 10.

09:32:30.120 Huh?

09:32:30.480 10.

09:32:31.660 It's two.

09:32:32.400 It's two.

09:32:32.860 Okay, what about you?

09:32:33.540 Body count?

09:32:33.920 I'm heavily into TikTok after this.

09:32:35.760 It's high.

09:32:36.060 Shh, be quiet.

09:32:36.700 Stop.

09:32:37.000 High.

09:32:38.680 What is it?

09:32:39.420 Give us a range.

09:32:40.500 It's not appropriate.

09:32:41.440 Over.

09:32:42.360 Shh, shh, shh.

09:32:42.980 What do you think is high?

09:32:44.640 Don't worry about it.

09:32:45.420 Don't worry about what I think.

09:32:46.420 I'm worried.

09:32:48.520 It'll be just lie.

09:32:49.140 You'll probably never see me again.

09:32:50.380 Lie.

09:32:50.900 Lie.

09:32:51.540 What? 1.00

09:32:51.820 That's rude as fuck, Brian. 0.99

09:32:52.980 Why is that rude? 0.99

09:32:53.540 Because you're saying you don't want to see her again.

09:32:55.800 That's not what I said.

09:32:56.480 I'm saying she's.

09:32:57.040 I didn't say that.

09:32:58.540 That's what you mean.

09:32:59.920 It's high enough to where people will judge me if I say the real amount.

09:33:03.400 Give us a range.

09:33:05.160 Two.

09:33:05.800 Higher than double.

09:33:07.300 Triple digit.

09:33:08.380 Maybe.

09:33:09.680 Quadruple digit.

09:33:10.700 No, not quadruple.

09:33:11.140 She's not triple digit.

09:33:12.200 I know that.

09:33:12.820 She's in the lower.

09:33:14.600 Is it between 200?

09:33:16.900 No.

09:33:17.120 200 and 300.

09:33:17.780 No, 19.

09:33:18.300 Under that.

09:33:18.880 100 to 200.

09:33:22.060 Maybe.

09:33:22.780 What's yours?

09:33:23.640 Okay.

09:33:24.440 Savannah.

09:33:25.080 The low end.

09:33:25.920 Two.

09:33:26.120 Oh, wait.

09:33:26.540 Two.

09:33:26.660 Why are you surprised when I play hard?

09:33:28.820 19.

09:33:29.460 Wait, guys.

09:33:30.080 Be quiet.

09:33:30.640 Stop.

09:33:30.940 Stop.

09:33:31.040 Stop.

09:33:31.280 I'm sorry. 0.98

09:33:31.620 I'm fucking getting delirious, Brian. 0.85

09:33:32.720 Sorry. 0.99

09:33:32.740 Repeat it.

09:33:33.220 Stop.

09:33:33.640 I'm so sorry.

09:33:34.300 We're going to wrap soon.

09:33:34.560 Trust me.

09:33:34.960 We're wrapping soon.

09:33:36.560 Go ahead.

09:33:37.000 11.

09:33:38.940 I'm not answering this, but it's normal.

09:33:40.780 Do you want to do range?

09:33:42.120 It's normal.

09:33:43.140 It's like a normal number.

09:33:44.460 It's nothing crazy.

09:33:45.440 What is normal?

09:33:46.240 I'm not answering.

09:33:46.960 I'm not answering.

09:33:47.800 What about you?

09:33:48.160 You never even answer.

09:33:49.900 Huh?

09:33:50.500 One.

09:33:51.000 One.

09:33:51.440 Okay.

09:33:52.520 Oh.

09:33:53.440 Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.

09:33:55.200 For all of you.

09:33:55.900 No, I believe her.

09:33:56.820 For all of you.

09:33:57.720 All right.

09:33:58.460 I'll put my hand on the Bible.

09:34:00.580 She's the one.

09:34:00.900 But it also doesn't matter.

09:34:02.660 It does matter.

09:34:03.400 Brian, can you give your real number?

09:34:05.060 Speaking of ways.

09:34:05.780 How much money do I have to pay you to give your real number?

09:34:09.240 I'll tell you for a Bitcoin.

09:34:11.260 What is the worth of a Bitcoin?

09:34:12.680 It's like $120,000.

09:34:14.280 I don't have that.

09:34:15.720 I don't know.

09:34:16.060 It's $46,000. 0.99

09:34:16.780 Fuck, I need to go, like, yeah, everybody, go cash up me a hundred Bitcoins or whatever 0.99

09:34:23.520 because I want Brian's real body count. 1.00

09:34:26.000 A hundred Bitcoins.

09:34:26.740 I feel like it's in the, like, fifties.

09:34:29.920 Wait, what did you say?

09:34:31.040 She said a hundred Bitcoin.

09:34:32.780 I repeated that.

09:34:33.600 A hundred Bitcoin.

09:34:34.600 Oh, okay.

09:34:35.320 Oh, I don't even know what that means.

09:34:36.760 But I think Brian's body count is definitely in the fifties.

09:34:40.460 Definitely in the fifties. 0.85

09:34:41.660 Yeah, because I think, like, there's whores that message you and they're like, Brian, I want 1.00

09:34:44.920 your dick, you have the whatever podcast. 1.00

09:34:49.180 Yeah, you said that girls message you, so you obviously have a high body count. 1.00

09:34:53.820 I'm a virgin.

09:34:54.620 No, Brian has a high body count.

09:34:56.300 Girls message him.

09:34:57.380 I'm a virgin.

09:34:58.280 Every year it restarts.

09:35:00.100 No.

09:35:00.500 Oh, yeah, that's what I used to say, but not anymore.

09:35:03.020 That's good. 0.99

09:35:03.740 The thing is, guys don't give a fuck. 1.00

09:35:05.700 They don't. 1.00

09:35:05.940 They do care.

09:35:06.780 No, they don't.

09:35:08.340 Oh, really?

09:35:09.880 Brian needs tacos.

09:35:11.000 How do they care?

09:35:12.900 Al fresco.

09:35:13.380 Because they don't want someone that's ran through.

09:35:15.840 Claim, it's true.

09:35:16.820 It's very true.

09:35:17.000 No tacos are open, Claim.

09:35:18.540 Guys, get, last call, $69 TTS.

09:35:20.920 Get it in before we get this wrapped up here.

09:35:22.300 Claim, DM me.

09:35:23.140 Actually, cash at me.

09:35:24.420 Get it in.

09:35:24.900 Final call.

09:35:25.800 $69.

09:35:26.500 You need to, you guys got to roast this girl. 1.00

09:35:28.840 Roast her. 1.00

09:35:29.380 Roast me, baby. 1.00

09:35:30.660 She needs to be roasted. 1.00

09:35:31.160 Mmm, I love me roasted. 0.91

09:35:32.800 She needs to be roasted. 1.00

09:35:33.200 $69.

09:35:34.120 Thank you, man.

09:35:34.700 Share one.

09:35:35.600 Have you ever considered that your idea that women lack opportunities is based on Disney and fictional

09:35:40.960 shows? 0.85

09:35:41.360 Throughout history, you know men have sucked up to women and simp after them, right? 0.99

09:35:46.580 It's true. 0.98

09:35:47.140 What's he mean?

09:35:47.740 Mike Davis.

09:35:51.160 I don't even know what he said.

09:35:52.020 Is this Mary?

09:35:52.740 Mary, did you send in one?

09:35:54.000 Oh, yeah.

09:35:54.440 We're getting out of here soon.

09:35:55.740 All your major fans fell asleep. 0.99

09:35:57.740 These are fucking the gems right now. 1.00

09:35:59.700 Mary, it's bedtime. 1.00

09:36:01.240 Go nine months.

09:36:01.600 Even your fans are telling you, go to bed, Ryan.

09:36:04.180 That's Mary.

09:36:04.640 Mary sent in.

09:36:05.660 Like, I'm cooked.

09:36:07.180 Bye.

09:36:07.820 She's, Mary's a trooper.

09:36:09.480 Mary, I love you, babe.

09:36:10.820 Mary and Felicity are troopers.

09:36:13.520 I agree.

09:36:14.240 They work 12-hour days and get paid five.

09:36:17.120 Huh?

09:36:17.560 Wait, what?

09:36:18.140 No.

09:36:18.800 Oh, okay, good.

09:36:19.460 I don't know how much they get paid five.

09:36:21.120 They're actually indentured servants. 1.00

09:36:23.140 This is fucking Dave. 1.00

09:36:24.380 This is Dave. 1.00

09:36:25.140 A man's beard is not the same as makeup.

09:36:27.740 It is true.

09:36:28.240 This is Dave.

09:36:28.620 This is Dave.

09:36:28.860 It's true.

09:36:29.900 Dave Ho.

09:36:30.560 Shout out Dave Ho.

09:36:32.360 I know Dave.

09:36:33.420 Beard is not the same as makeup.

09:36:35.620 It's a very good point.

09:36:36.340 It is.

09:36:36.980 It's better.

09:36:37.840 Dave, we know you're awake.

09:36:39.540 Dave, take a shot for us.

09:36:40.600 A man with a beard is like plus five points.

09:36:42.980 No, I didn't even spell.

09:36:43.780 Plus five.

09:36:44.340 There you go.

09:36:45.080 Sorry.

09:36:45.880 I'm starting to get a little delirious. 1.00

09:36:47.540 I want to get fucked up. 1.00

09:36:50.140 Women who wear makeup are insecure and trying to accept the way they serve. 1.00

09:36:53.920 Bitch, it is too late for the strip club. 1.00

09:36:55.240 I won't wear expensive makeup to attract men who are high on the attractiveness scale of 1.00

09:36:59.780 one to ten or the top ten percent of men.

09:37:02.720 I won't take my makeup off. 1.00

09:37:04.240 I'm ugly as fuck. 1.00

09:37:05.500 I already said I'm a four. 1.00

09:37:06.880 I'm a freaky four.

09:37:08.360 She has such good TikToks too. 0.99

09:37:11.260 Brian, just have me back.

09:37:12.080 Are you down to come back?

09:37:12.940 Are you down to come back?

09:37:13.600 Can I come back?

09:37:14.240 Promise?

09:37:15.000 Wait, can I?

09:37:15.480 Yeah, you can come back.

09:37:16.740 Brian, so I thought you were going to hate me, but like.

09:37:18.480 Wait, wait, wait.

09:37:19.120 Let's listen.

09:37:19.340 I think we're kindred spirits to be friends.

09:37:20.920 It's fine to cook food, not men. 1.00

09:37:23.040 Come enjoy life with me on my lakefront.

09:37:25.240 We can talk about philosophy in my pool.

09:37:28.540 That sounds amazing.

09:37:30.140 You need to give your Venmo.

09:37:31.840 You can make so much money right now.

09:37:32.980 You base Thor.

09:37:34.040 You.

09:37:34.800 Send me the money.

09:37:36.240 You need to pay the SIM tax.

09:37:38.920 Brian hates SIMs.

09:37:40.520 You need to pay the SIM tax, base Thor.

09:37:42.460 That was just.

09:37:45.120 Bro, she's a feminist. 1.00

09:37:46.680 No, she's not.

09:37:47.360 She wrote an essay about feminism.

09:37:48.640 She's not a feminist. 1.00

09:37:50.840 It's literally called like deconstructing feminism. 0.99

09:37:53.620 How beautiful she is.

09:37:54.260 She's going to trans your kids. 1.00

09:37:56.180 No, she's not.

09:37:57.080 Oh my God.

09:37:57.700 No, that's crazy statement. 1.00

09:37:58.880 She's going to give your kids fucking puberty blockers, bro. 1.00

09:38:01.180 What the fuck are you saying, Brian? 1.00

09:38:02.600 He's fear mongering. 1.00

09:38:03.600 He doesn't know anything.

09:38:04.540 Yeah.

09:38:05.040 Okay, hold on. 1.00

09:38:06.040 If you're, if you're fucking. 1.00

09:38:07.100 I'm going to trans my kids. 1.00

09:38:08.420 You're going to trans. 1.00

09:38:08.980 I'm trying to start a fight right now.

09:38:09.740 She's one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen.

09:38:11.860 Look.

09:38:12.520 These two girls took their makeup off and they're the prettiest girls.

09:38:14.220 Be honest.

09:38:14.600 Be honest.

09:38:14.620 Let's say you do have kids.

09:38:16.140 Hold on. 1.00

09:38:16.520 Let's say you do have kids and your fucking eight year old, nine year old kid comes to 1.00

09:38:21.700 you. 1.00

09:38:22.040 Shut up. 1.00

09:38:23.060 Sorry. 1.00

09:38:24.120 Comes to you and is like, Hey, I think you have a son.

09:38:27.860 And he's like, Hey, I really like Barbie dolls.

09:38:30.760 And I want, I think I'm a woman.

09:38:34.640 You're going to put them on the pathway to transition.

09:38:38.480 No, I'm not going to make them feel like liking Barbies is gender specific to begin

09:38:43.560 with.

09:38:43.860 So they're not going to have this kind of like, okay, fine.

09:38:46.220 Ignore the Barbie thing, but they're like, I feel like I'm a woman. 0.97

09:38:50.000 That's gay. 1.00

09:38:50.860 Or wait, what? 0.85

09:38:53.600 That's them saying that like, they're kind of like, that's kind of like, I'm a little

09:38:59.320 gay. 0.93

09:38:59.780 Genuinely though, your kid comes to you, your 10 year old kid's like, Hey mom, I think I'm 0.90

09:39:04.960 a woman or I think I'm a girl.

09:39:06.640 I want to become a girl.

09:39:09.820 You're going to put them through the, you're going to put them on the process.

09:39:13.600 I'm against like transitioning children. 1.00

09:39:16.260 I don't know anyone who's necessarily pro transition.

09:39:18.880 Wait, isn't that the, the trans advocacy is puberty, puberty blockers to prevent puberty.

09:39:24.700 I'm not well aware of this.

09:39:27.520 This is, it's like super common.

09:39:30.520 I don't know what to tell you, but my children, I don't think would get to that point because

09:39:35.380 I'm not putting the idea of liking Barbies as a female characteristic to begin with.

09:39:41.700 Yeah.

09:39:41.960 Disregard the Barbie thing.

09:39:43.180 I said, if your child comes to you and is like, Hey, I don't think they would have this

09:39:47.300 epiphany.

09:39:47.960 They wouldn't describe it this way either.

09:39:49.480 I would, I would let them exist however they want to exist.

09:39:52.640 They wouldn't have this like, Oh, I feel like a woman.

09:39:55.260 They would have just existed.

09:39:56.240 Okay.

09:39:56.540 But they're going to school and the school is like teaching them about like trans stuff

09:40:00.760 or whatever, which no school does that.

09:40:02.780 There's definitely schools that talk about like trans people.

09:40:06.300 So your kid comes to you though, and you've read the literature.

09:40:10.920 I'm against transitioning children. 1.00

09:40:12.700 Yeah.

09:40:12.920 Okay.

09:40:13.120 So you wouldn't give them puberty blockers?

09:40:15.560 No.

09:40:16.040 Even if the medical, the, uh, medical literature would seem to indicate that this is like

09:40:21.480 you can transition.

09:40:23.580 Well, you can transition later in life.

09:40:25.540 So I would give it time personally.

09:40:28.540 Would you wait until they're 18 for any sort of, uh, well, at that point it's out of my hands,

09:40:34.100 I guess.

09:40:34.380 Yeah.

09:40:35.180 But would you do anything prior to 18?

09:40:37.180 No, I would let them dress however they feel.

09:40:40.120 Okay.

09:40:40.480 You know, that type of thing, make them feel comfortable.

09:40:42.620 Don't demonize them or make them think that they can't participate in the things that

09:40:46.900 they feel like they can.

09:40:48.320 So you would prevent your trans kid from having gender affirming care as a child.

09:40:53.540 Yeah.

09:40:54.860 Okay.

09:40:55.360 I mean, that's somewhat reasonable, I guess.

09:40:59.960 Okay.

09:41:00.480 Good talk.

09:41:00.980 Um, so she's reasonable.

09:41:03.080 I mean, I mean, I still look, if my son comes to me, well, this is look, I think it's,

09:41:10.540 it's fair that at least it's a positive that you wouldn't allow them to get on puberty

09:41:16.000 blockers.

09:41:17.120 But, uh, if my son comes to me and is like, Hey, I think I'm a girl.

09:41:21.160 I'm not going to be like, okay, go ahead.

09:41:23.900 You can start dressing like a girl. 1.00

09:41:25.840 I'm going to be like, nah, just wait for a couple of years.

09:41:28.960 It's probably, if you're probably going to grow out of this, which I don't think is

09:41:33.080 the worst.

09:41:33.460 We're not going to come into their parents and saying, I feel like a girl.

09:41:36.400 We're not going to socially transition.

09:41:38.560 Like honestly.

09:41:39.000 So you're saying you would socially transition your child.

09:41:41.860 I wouldn't force anything upon them.

09:41:43.020 You wouldn't force it.

09:41:43.300 If they wanted to try it out, I'm not going to say, no, you have to wear pants and a t-shirt.

09:41:47.900 Right.

09:41:48.100 You wouldn't force them to socially transition.

09:41:49.960 But they're going to get made fun of at school.

09:41:51.580 So are you going to allow that?

09:41:52.540 But if they wanted to socially transition, you would be fine with that.

09:41:56.840 If they wanted to grow their hair out.

09:41:59.680 And wear dresses.

09:42:00.820 Get their ears pierced.

09:42:01.360 And wear dresses.

09:42:01.920 Yeah, I would not allow my son to do that.

09:42:05.900 Yeah.

09:42:06.300 When they're adults, I suppose they can do whatever they want.

09:42:08.740 Obviously, I'd try to advocate away from that.

09:42:11.700 But yeah.

09:42:12.560 Anyways.

09:42:13.120 Okay.

09:42:13.500 A few more things.

09:42:14.120 Then we're going to get this wrapped here, folks.

09:42:16.120 Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.

09:42:18.440 How so?

09:42:19.020 Is that tequila?

09:42:21.920 That's really strong.

09:42:22.780 That's for you.

09:42:23.180 I think you should say that when I want to remember.

09:42:24.420 Jazz, that's for you.

09:42:24.740 That was the conversation we had earlier that we fully discussed about bodily autonomy.

09:42:28.820 I'll make it super quick then.

09:42:29.880 Can you name one right that a man has that a woman doesn't? 1.00

09:42:35.700 That's for you, Jazz.

09:42:37.100 Yeah, I'm thinking.

09:42:38.040 Okay.

09:42:38.460 Of course it is.

09:42:39.520 A right that a man has that a woman doesn't. 1.00

09:42:43.580 Did you do that or did Mari do it?

09:42:46.040 Or Martin?

09:42:46.600 It's called Mary.

09:42:47.660 Mari.

09:42:48.280 Yes.

09:42:48.720 That's your new name, Mary.

09:42:51.100 I'm so sorry, Mary. 0.99

09:42:52.620 I'm fucking terrified. 0.89

09:42:54.120 Yeah. 0.98

09:42:54.620 Oh, my God.

09:42:55.740 No, no, no.

09:42:56.100 Anything?

09:42:57.320 Anything?

09:42:58.180 Here, I'll let the chat come through.

09:42:59.580 You can hear me about it.

09:43:00.500 Okay.

09:43:00.780 There's still chat.

09:43:01.480 How many viewers we have?

09:43:02.720 Shh, shh.

09:43:03.960 Be quiet during the...

09:43:04.760 I'm sorry, Brian.

09:43:05.720 He's literally telling me... 0.99

09:43:07.020 Shut the fuck up during the TTS and roast sessions. 1.00

09:43:09.600 Yeah. 1.00

09:43:11.060 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

09:43:13.520 It's fucking Dave. 1.00

09:43:14.900 Shut the fuck up, Dave. 1.00

09:43:16.200 Okay, now. 1.00

09:43:17.120 Set my clit. 1.00

09:43:18.720 No, actually, don't. 0.99

09:43:19.900 Actually, I would not want that.

09:43:21.240 No, thank you. 1.00

09:43:22.040 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

09:43:23.040 Okay. 1.00

09:43:24.040 You got anything for us?

09:43:24.880 I know he's...

09:43:25.880 No, I think I've been awake for over 24 hours now.

09:43:28.320 Give me one.

09:43:29.020 Give me something.

09:43:30.020 My brain actually can't work.

09:43:31.420 Do you understand?

09:43:32.420 Her brain...

09:43:33.180 Oh, it's literally...

09:43:34.220 Okay.

09:43:34.360 Well, I mean, it's three in the morning.

09:43:36.280 And I've been up since...

09:43:37.420 Look, I...

09:43:38.100 As a feminist, I believe women have... 1.00

09:43:40.580 Wait, hold on.

09:43:41.360 ...have the brain power.

09:43:42.620 I think women... 1.00

09:43:43.640 Then let's ask the women. 1.00

09:43:44.380 Wow, that's really misogynistic of you.

09:43:46.220 Are you a feminist? 1.00

09:43:47.440 I think women... 1.00

09:43:48.360 Are you a feminist? 1.00

09:43:49.080 ...even when they're tired...

09:43:49.720 I think women, even when they're really tired, have the brain power to just, you know, whatever. 1.00

09:43:54.580 Wait, are you a feminist, Brian?

09:43:56.420 Definitely not.

09:43:57.500 Definitely?

09:43:58.400 Claim donated $69.

09:44:01.340 What is Erica Essov? 0.99

09:44:03.020 Not for me.

09:44:03.800 I don't have a laugh friend.

09:44:05.320 As long as she doesn't talk, he is down.

09:44:08.020 I don't do OOF.

09:44:09.360 I tried to. 1.00

09:44:10.140 I scammed motherfuckers on there one month. 1.00

09:44:12.160 When I was on American Idol, I scammed people. 1.00

09:44:14.980 And they're like, get naked.

09:44:16.200 And I wouldn't get naked. 0.70

09:44:17.400 Next question.

09:44:20.280 Anyway.

09:44:20.720 There's more.

09:44:21.080 There's another chat coming from you.

09:44:23.100 I think we're done, actually, with the question. 0.99

09:44:24.960 Okay, now I'm sorry to say bullshit. 0.98

09:44:26.460 That's why I got no idea. 0.99

09:44:27.480 Shh.

09:44:28.100 Sorry.

09:44:28.540 Shh.

09:44:28.780 Shh.

09:44:29.040 Shh.

09:44:29.100 Shh.

09:44:29.200 Shh.

09:44:29.300 Shh.

09:44:29.700 Shh.

09:44:29.800 Shh.

09:44:30.000 It's okay.

09:44:31.060 Because I honestly think she is humble and is a decent person.

09:44:35.040 Her looks just make it even better. 1.00

09:44:37.660 It is what it is.

09:44:38.420 Bro, Mike Davis.

09:44:39.420 Mike, send me the money personally.

09:44:42.140 What are you doing?

09:44:43.320 No, no, no, no.

09:44:43.720 No, no, no, no.

09:44:43.740 No, no, no.

09:44:44.000 Mike, you need to send in another SIM tax.

09:44:47.580 You got to pay the SIM tax.

09:44:48.960 You too.

09:44:49.600 Oh, my God.

09:44:50.280 This is so.

09:44:51.400 Oh, my.

09:44:52.200 It's fine, chair one. 1.00

09:44:53.540 That's fucking disgusting. 0.99

09:44:54.880 I don't have a priority for kids or marriage, so it works out. 1.00

09:44:56.920 Oh, my dear.

09:44:57.680 You still have time.

09:44:58.680 I can fix you.

09:44:59.800 What's your act?

09:45:00.560 Yeah, can I get a percent.

09:45:01.360 I will SIM tax for chair one.

09:45:03.180 Sorry, Brian, but help me fix her.

09:45:06.840 Everyone, go follow her Instagram.

09:45:08.640 What's your Instagram?

09:45:09.580 I don't have Instagram. 1.00

09:45:10.760 What the fuck? 0.99

09:45:11.340 Follow my TikTok. 1.00

09:45:12.000 Rocky's, R-O-C-K-U-I-S.

09:45:14.740 Blup, blup, blup, blup, blup.

09:45:15.980 Oh, did you really mute it? 1.00

09:45:18.020 It's, ah, shit. 0.99

09:45:19.580 No, it went through, I guess. 1.00

09:45:21.080 Wow, you don't have a Venmo or Instagram?

09:45:22.920 What the hell are you doing?

09:45:24.100 We're done with the questionnaire.

09:45:25.700 There's show notes that you guys submitted, but honestly, it's late, so I think everybody

09:45:29.360 would probably.

09:45:29.380 Love you guys.

09:45:30.380 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

09:45:31.380 Oh, sorry.

09:45:31.740 Get this wrapped.

09:45:32.440 I know, it's your show.

09:45:33.160 It's not my show. 1.00

09:45:34.080 I'm fucked up. 0.98

09:45:34.780 Sorry. 0.98

09:45:35.820 Some of you, we didn't get into the show notes, but I'm assuming you guys are okay with us.

09:45:41.140 I'll be back.

09:45:42.300 Yeah.

09:45:43.060 We'll have you, we'd be happy to have any of you back here.

09:45:45.320 Normally, our shows definitely don't go this long.

09:45:47.620 We do have long shows, but they normally don't go this long.

09:45:50.220 I'll do a final call out, guys.

09:45:51.720 Final call out, if you guys want to get a final, base Thor and Klain and whoever else

09:45:56.920 it is, Mike Davis, send in a final 69 as a simp tax because you guys been simping, man.

09:46:02.740 That's crazy.

09:46:03.880 All right, guys.

09:46:04.480 I hope you enjoyed the stream.

09:46:05.540 Venmo Cash App.

09:46:07.620 Cora, thank you for the $1 on Cash App.

09:46:11.040 Joseph, thank you for the $5 on Venmo.

09:46:13.020 Brendan, thank you for the $3.

09:46:14.120 I already had to thank you, Brendan.

09:46:16.820 Like the video, guys, if you enjoyed the stream.

09:46:18.700 It was a really good stream.

09:46:19.420 It was fun.

09:46:19.880 It was kind of chaotic.

09:46:21.260 We kicked a girl off the show. 1.00

09:46:22.860 There's a bunch.

09:46:23.360 I don't know.

09:46:23.960 I don't know where she's at.

09:46:25.500 She was in another dimension.

09:46:28.360 Guys, go to Twitch.

09:46:29.180 Pull up Twitch really quick, Mary.

09:46:31.100 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

09:46:32.400 Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have on Twitch.tv slash whatever.

09:46:36.960 Guys, it's been three hours since we last got a sub.

09:46:40.640 Guys, I think it's bugged, boys.

09:46:42.120 Somebody here, 1,000 viewers, drop us a follow and a prime sub.

09:46:46.200 I think it's bugged, boys.

09:46:47.180 Really quick, before we end the stream, one prime sub.

09:46:49.400 Just check out.

09:46:50.340 I think it's bugged, boys.

09:46:51.180 Help me fix my Twitch.

09:46:52.140 Help me fix the Twitch.

09:46:53.480 I think it's bugged.

09:46:54.320 Okay.

09:46:55.300 Guys, Discord.gg slash whatever.

09:46:57.260 I think I'm going to, I'll have to look at the footage because it was kind of shitty,

09:47:00.900 but I was recording the like kick out of that girl and she was just, that was recorded.

09:47:07.300 So if you want, I might post it behind the scenes, but that's not 100% a guarantee promise

09:47:12.720 because I think the footage on my end might have been shitty.

09:47:15.540 Shop.whatever.com.

09:47:16.640 Bigly, if you matter, get yourself some merch. 0.93

09:47:18.260 We also got some whatever merch too.

09:47:20.320 So shop.whatever.com.

09:47:21.800 Be sure to check it out.

09:47:22.700 And then guys, like the video, please.

09:47:26.380 Are we forgetting anything, Mary?

09:47:27.540 Was there any other reacts or anything? 1.00

09:47:31.440 Yeah, unfortunately, fuck. 0.99

09:47:33.820 It's, it's almost 10 hours at this point. 0.99

09:47:36.900 So we have to wrap.

09:47:38.560 Unfortunately, I would love to.

09:47:39.680 I had TikToks from Jasmine, Jazz, Jazz.

09:47:45.240 This was her show tonight.

09:47:47.840 She was the only, you know, person disagreeing with me, I guess.

09:47:50.760 I don't know.

09:47:51.140 No, I'm just saying.

09:47:52.060 We had TikToks from you.

09:47:52.940 We had TikToks from Savannah.

09:47:54.380 But unfortunately.

09:47:54.640 Thank you everybody for having us.

09:47:56.220 We love you.

09:47:57.500 Love you, whatever.

09:47:58.520 Mari.

09:47:59.360 Let me just double check here.

09:48:00.420 Love you, whatever podcast.

09:48:01.820 If you hate us, I still love you.

09:48:03.940 What are we forgetting?

09:48:04.440 Slide into my DMs if you hate me.

09:48:05.940 We're not doing anything.

09:48:07.100 Okay.

09:48:08.340 I love my haters.

09:48:09.180 Let me just double check here.

09:48:10.340 Okay.

09:48:10.580 I'd like to end the show with a call to action.

09:48:13.080 I'd like to see if we can't use this as a moment, as an opportunity.

09:48:17.420 What?

09:48:17.640 Oh.

09:48:17.800 She left.

09:48:18.640 The OnlyFans girl left. 0.85

09:48:19.860 Oh, she's gone.

09:48:20.840 Okay.

09:48:20.880 That was the only OnlyFans girl? 0.63

09:48:22.100 All right.

09:48:22.720 GG.

09:48:23.240 OnlyFans.

09:48:24.400 GG.

09:48:24.860 Well played.

09:48:25.200 Guys, last call.

09:48:27.240 Hit the like button, please, on your way out.

09:48:28.660 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

09:48:30.000 You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.

09:48:32.720 I appreciate that.

09:48:33.640 Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.

09:48:37.140 Love you guys.

09:48:37.860 You guys have been great.

09:48:39.400 Jungle.

09:48:40.200 Everybody.

09:48:40.800 Mike, Dave.

09:48:41.380 All you guys.

09:48:42.060 You guys are.

09:48:43.200 There's too many people to name, but thank you guys so much.

09:48:46.500 Lucas.

09:48:47.180 Thank you, Lucas.

09:48:47.980 I don't know if you're still watching.

09:48:48.980 Thank you, Andrew.

09:48:49.660 With his wife.

09:48:50.200 I love you, new wife.

09:48:50.480 Your guys' generosity is unmatched.

09:48:52.700 We couldn't do it without you guys.

09:48:53.980 We don't do sponsorships.

09:48:55.820 We're fan-funded here. 0.98

09:48:57.620 Half our shit gets demonetized on YouTube and TikTok kicked out of their monetization. 0.99

09:49:03.360 All this stuff. 0.99

09:49:04.000 So we're fan-funded.

09:49:04.980 So thank you, guys.

09:49:05.880 We will be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific with another Dating Talk.

09:49:09.420 Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to San Barbara. 1.00

09:49:13.540 Let me just double-check really quickly, make sure we're not screwing any over chatters here.

09:49:18.920 Shout-out, Hayden Rashad.

09:49:20.240 I love you.

09:49:20.800 Blackout girls. 0.99

09:49:22.020 Shout-out, Dave Ho.

09:49:22.860 So follow me on Instagram.

09:49:24.360 Phone on baby ET.

09:49:26.500 Shout-out, you know, my boy.

09:49:29.560 Phone on baby ET is my Instagram.

09:49:31.480 Yo, shout-out.

09:49:31.760 You know, look, I'm from the mean streets of Santa Barbara.

09:49:34.640 And it's, man, it's tough out here.

09:49:36.680 Blackout girls. 0.99

09:49:37.440 I grew up fucking Cabrillo Boulevard, man. 1.00

09:49:39.720 That ain't no joke. 0.99

09:49:40.620 Cabrillo Boulevard. 1.00

09:49:41.780 The fucking palm trees, man. 1.00

09:49:42.960 You look at the palm trees. 1.00

09:49:43.980 It's crazy, dog.

09:49:44.920 Hayden and Rochelle, we're coming.

09:49:46.280 You're going to come on next. 1.00

09:49:47.680 Love you, bitches. 1.00

09:49:48.880 I'm fucked up. 1.00

09:49:49.500 Okay, all right. 0.99

09:49:52.620 That's it, guys.

09:49:53.300 Like the video, please, on your way out.

09:49:55.540 07s in the chat.

09:49:56.460 By the way, guys, we're going to get her back on.

09:49:58.160 We're going to get her back on and maybe Savannah back on.

09:50:00.460 They have some really good, great TikTok content.

09:50:03.420 We're going to have to react to it another day.

09:50:05.220 I went through a bunch of their stuff.

09:50:07.080 They have some great videos.

09:50:08.000 I reactivated just for you, right?

09:50:08.800 They got some great videos, but we'll have to save it for round two, I guess.

09:50:12.940 So 07s in the chat.

09:50:14.800 Oh, wait.

09:50:15.200 Final thing here.

09:50:16.300 Julie.

09:50:20.980 House of the Dragon.

09:50:22.420 You don't think it's good?

09:50:24.160 Not compared to Game of Thrones.

09:50:25.620 I like it. 0.82

09:50:26.540 Well, actually, season two sucks, so never mind.

09:50:28.400 I said that before season two, I think.

09:50:31.100 Anyways, okay.

09:50:31.760 Okay, 07s in the...

09:50:33.020 Wait, let me double check.

09:50:34.660 I don't want to screw anybody over.

09:50:35.700 Oh, my goodness.

09:50:39.020 Charlie, okay.

09:50:40.020 Charlie, thank you for the soup chat.

09:50:41.240 Charlie Kerr?

09:50:41.760 Memorial Day.

09:50:42.580 No, Charlie Johnson. 1.00

09:50:43.560 Yo, fucking legend. 0.99

09:50:44.860 Guys, W's in the chat for Charlie for the big $100 soup chat here at the end of the stream. 1.00

09:50:49.180 What a fucking legend. 0.98

09:50:50.720 He's a brave and a decent man. 0.99

09:50:52.240 Thank you.

09:50:52.560 He's a pioneer. 0.99

09:50:53.020 He's a fucking pioneer. 0.99

09:50:54.200 Thank you, dude. 0.99

09:50:55.240 All right, 07s in the chat.

09:50:57.000 Good night, guys.

09:50:58.120 Good night, good night.

09:50:59.160 Love you.

09:51:00.340 We will see you guys next time.

09:51:01.740 Good night, guys.

09:51:02.580 Mwah.

09:51:05.700 Good night, guys.

Whatever Podcast - May 27, 2025

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