Feminist WANTS Traditional Man？! SHAMES ＂Cheap＂ Men Who DO NOT Pay For Dates？! ｜ Dating Talk #190
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7 hours and 16 minutes
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175.08942
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379
Summary
This week, we're joined by singer and content creator, Pearl Botts, who joins us to talk about what it's like being a woman in the 21st century, and what it means to be in a relationship with a woman who s a singer.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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We're starting a little late here. We had two no-shows, so it kind of delayed us a little
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bit. Disclaimer, the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views
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of the whatever channel. With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests
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introduce themselves, so please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead.
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My name's Pearl Botts. I'm from Los Angeles. I'm 32, and I'm a singer and content creator.
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Are we going to get a little demo of the singing? Sure, if you want it. Let's do it. Go ahead.
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Right now? Right now. You just want me to sing anything. What should she sing, panel? What
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do you guys think? What's that song? At Last? At Last? Do you know what I'm talking about?
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Oh, wow. Etta James. That's because you had another girl sing that here, huh? That's
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the only song I know, actually. I don't listen to music. Actually, we were just talking about
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A Star is Born. We were. We were. Can you sing At Last? Do you have your own music?
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Busted out. I do, yes. Sing your own song. Okay. At Last. Wait, I'm kind of nervous right
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You got this. At Last. My love has come along. My lonely days are over. And life is like
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a song. That's like it. That's good. Yeah. That's good. Thank you. Thank you. Now we
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need you to do the, did you do any opera? I studied opera, but I don't really do it anymore.
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Okay. So there's, what is it? The Magic Flute? Do you know what I'm talking about? The Magic
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Flute? The Night, the Queen of the Night, Aria. Oh, the Queen of the Night. Oh. Yeah,
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wait. Is it called the Queen of the Night? Yeah, it is. Aria. Is that what it's called?
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Wait, hold on. Queen of the Night. Aria sung by Queen of the Night. Okay, go ahead. Magic
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flute notes are. I was a coloratura soprano, but that's a little bit more effort, so. Oh,
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come on. This is easy. We'll skip on it. That's easy work. Oh, is it? Is it? The Queen of the Night?
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Easy. Like, we just opened the show. We just opened the show. Can you try? How about
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the, like, give it, give it the old college try. Nah, I'm good for Queen of the Night. Give
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it, give it the, give it the shot. Are you going to pay me another, some more for that? I'll
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pay you, I'll give you a $2 bill. A $2? Nah, nah, nah. That's a good deal. I spent a lot of
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money on, on training for opera, so. That's like for special subscribers. You can subscribe
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to my YouTube channel if you want to hear that. Bummer. Okay. What about you? Okay. Jordan,
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26, from Riverside, California, and I'm a co-owner to a gym in Riverside and a personal trainer.
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All right. Welcome. I'm Pay IRL, or Payton. I am 27 from Massachusetts. I work full-time with
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farmers, and I'm also a streamer. Full, you work full-time with, with farmers? Like, I help them
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decide which kind of feed they need, which kind of, like, chicken coop, how many chickens they're
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going to be getting, things like that. Do you ever milk cows or goats or anything? No, I take care of
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baby chicks, though. I see. Okay. Cool. What about you? Hi. I'm Stacey. I'm from Riverside County.
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I'm 47, and I work in the aerospace industry. What's your job title? That's a good question.
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Well, I'm Quality Assurance. I'm in training and development. Okay. All right. What about you?
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I'm Liz. I am 25, and I own a car wrapping business. All right. You want to shout it out
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in case somebody wants their car wrapped? Look at me, a horrible business owner. It's called
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Cosmotive, and we're located in Ventura County. However, we extend all the way to L.A. County
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as well. All right. If you guys need your car wrapped, go to her. I'm Sarah. I'm 28, and I'm a
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digital creator for beauty brands. So, like, skincare and some other beauty brands, and then some
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other, like, freelance stuff. All right. Cool. I'm Madison. I'm 19 years old. I'm a full-time
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student, and I work for the Whatever Podcast. I'm Ava. I'm 24. I'm from Santa Barbara. I bartend,
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and I also work for the Whatever Podcast. All right. Welcome, everybody. Welcome, everybody.
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So, we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's current relationship status?
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So, are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,
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polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be? If you're single, how long have you been single?
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What's the longest relationship you've ever been in, starting with you? Go ahead.
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I'm dating right now, dating somebody, and longest relationship, year and a half.
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Two months. Are you guys boyfriend, girlfriend, or?
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And I'm married, and this is my longest relationship.
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I told you guys last time, I am running a sex cult currently. No, I'm just kidding. I'm single.
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My longest relationship was seven years, and it was seven years ago.
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Wait. Your longest relationship was seven years, and it was seven years ago?
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And you've had no long-term relationships since you were 20?
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What's the longest period of time you've dated somebody since then?
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We talked about this before, but I've been celibate for four years.
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Just for the remainder of the show, though, I don't think it's worth, for any returning guests
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on the panel, I don't think it's worth mentioning.
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So, just say, if you repeat it, there's new viewers, new panelists, they haven't heard
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For religious reasons, or just, are you religious?
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But it's more because I want to find a long-term relationship before I have sex with anyone.
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You know, if I go out and I meet someone, I've also been turned down a lot, though.
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Oh, so you've asked somebody out, and you've been rejected?
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I just walk up to them and tell them that I think they're attractive, and that if they
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would like to have a drink together or go out sometime.
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And do you think a component of this, do you think you're too picky?
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Um, I am married for 21 and a half years, and this is my longest relationship.
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Married 21 and a half, so we've been, we were together for 22.
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So, you got married, like, one to two years into the relationship, or?
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We met February, got married, or I'm sorry, we got engaged in July and married that next
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You were just on the show, I think, two or three weeks ago, right?
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We broke up, like, so, I said on the last one that I went to Japan to go see him.
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And then I broke up with him the day I came back.
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You were on the show, like, three weeks ago, and then you went to Japan?
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Like, there was nothing wrong with the relationship at all.
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It was just the fact that he's in Japan, and I'm out here, and the distance just wasn't
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Maybe, you know, wherever God leads our paths in the future, it is what it is.
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But right now, it's like, your work needs to come first.
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Till December, but then he gets restationed in Florida.
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So, it's going to be long distance no matter what.
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Wait, you said it was kind of mutual, but who initiated this conversation?
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I initiated the conversation because I felt like something was going on on his end.
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So, for his sake, I was like, I think that for you, it would be best if we just, like, stayed platonic.
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There was no, like, trust issue or anything like that.
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Did you meet him online or you knew him from over here?
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Well, I was friends with him for a while beforehand.
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And then he left on deployment a few months ago.
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And we were never in a relationship while he was out here.
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So, I think because we started dating while he was gone, kind of, like, put the wedge in already.
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Because we didn't, we weren't boyfriend and girlfriend ever in person.
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Because 11 months, a whole year of my marriage, my husband was deployed in Cuba for an entire year of my marriage.
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So, that's, puts a lot of things into perspective.
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He couldn't go off, he couldn't go off base or anything, but yeah.
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Wait, so, and how long were you guys dating for?
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When you went to go and visit him, was there conversations about this is difficult or?
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It was just really hard for him to focus on work and the relationship.
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Since we could barely talk anyways, since like it's, it's, it's like day over there and then night over here, night over here, day over there.
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And you said you guys were together for two months.
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We were never like physically dating when we were here together.
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We started dating while he was already deployed.
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Oh, so you guys were like kind of, you were friends.
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And then we were like, well, should we just date?
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And then I think we just were like, yeah, let's do it and kind of rushed into it without thinking long term.
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And then when I came out, when I went out there, it's kind of like all hit us.
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So, and you guys had never had anything romantic previously.
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Yo, Robert Tanner, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships, man.
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Wait, is this the guy you were previously in a relationship with?
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You know, the guy who like the first time you were on the show, you were dating a guy.
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And then when he left, it was like, wait, I actually have feelings for you.
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Well, then I would say that it's not meant to be.
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Would you move to Japan if he was, like, fully stationed out there?
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I do have my business here, and I love working and everything like that.
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She could have a Japanese car-wrapping business.
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It was, like, a two-hour flight, and I was this close to, like, booking from Japan.
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Whatever Fando dated $69, let me translate it, smashed once, but the sex was lame.
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The two months that we were together, like, it was great.
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It'd probably be best to just kind of stay as friends.
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We would talk every day, but it would be for, like...
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It would be for, like, a five, ten-minute conversational time.
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We didn't invest, like, that much time being in a serious relationship for there to be
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It would be different if we were together for, like, a long period of time.
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Even if she lives five minutes away, I need, like, 72 hours.
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When the A&M says, till death do us part, what does that actually mean?
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Let me just check if it's muted in the other...
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I might have played with it, or were you guys playing with that?
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I'm not into the whole, like, dating app thing.
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Tried going to a friend's in bikini without me.
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Uh, I'm sure we don't know all the details there, but, um...
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Because it makes sense if she was gonna go swimming or something.
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Yeah, I'm not sure why going in a bikini is such a big...
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If you're dating a guy, and if you're not going to pool parties in a burkini, you get dumped.
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Maybe you saw that the Olympics, some of the women will wear burkinis.
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This is actually one of the first gifts I get, because we...
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You know, the girl's gonna want to go to the pool or to the beach.
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I will buy her a burkini, excuse me, and insist that she wear it.
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I am single-handedly actually funding the burkini industry.
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If you don't go in on it, then she doesn't have to wear it.
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But if she's trad, then I'll pay the whole thing.
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The feminist liberal women tend to love the burkini.
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Covers more than what she'd probably wear out in the sun.
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Yeah, but it like accentuates the shape of her body.
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I thought I saw one with like a skirt over and I'm like, I feel like that's more modest than...
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Longest relationship, I'd say about 2.5 to 3 years.
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I'm in an on and on relationship, a.k.a. a relationship.
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Can't always make the show, but you and Andrew have been doing excellent work.
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Very cool you have an all brunette episode, but now the blondes will protest you.
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You know, the hair color is not very diverse, but I think we've got.
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Who here who has natural dark hair thinks that this is an abomination?
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Well, you should first find out who here has colored hair currently.
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I mean, y'all probably seem like you're a natural.
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I mean, you might have highlights or a little coloring.
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I just did my roots and it came out the wrong color.
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She insisted going to pool party at strangers house without me.
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After dumping, hacked her Google and found messages of her cheating with another guy.
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She hated the show and yelled TV at Andrew lol.
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So was she technically, I mean, she technically might have had like a renter's rights or whatever.
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I won't get around the table from everybody, but so the bikini and then a divorce guy.
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My pronouns are she, her, and I'm half Korean, half white.
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If forced to choose, would you rather have democracy?
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I just want to get through relationship status really quick.
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Asian, Asian, Russian, Mexican, Swedish, and Irish, white, Vietnamese, and white.
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I'm part of everything, but if I started naming it, it would just...
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I just took an ancestry test, so I already forgot most of it, but mostly Italian, German, Irish, French.
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What ethnicity have you dated that you would not date again, and why?
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Okay, I'll leave it at 69 for three more minutes.
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So you're saying your longest relationship, 2.5 years.
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But you said the 2.5 year one, it was on again, off again?
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So, I had children with this person, so I have two sons, but, so we kind of like just
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tried to make things work, didn't work, we got engaged, it didn't work.
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So, I would say in total we dated about two and a half years, but it was just not working.
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Also, while I have it, most embarrassing date or carnal knowledge stories, please.
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Like, there was no understanding that we were done so much as, like, I feel like he would
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And then who would, like, try to reach back out to make it, to get back together?
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I reached back out, well, one time that I specifically remember I reached back out, that was after
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Like, there was an understanding that we wanted to make it work, but it just continuously did
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By the way, guys, TTS is now boosted to 200, read 100.
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So, let's get back into some of the notes here.
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So, TTS, just a reminder, guys, TTS was 69, but we've boosted it to 200.
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Just to start some she-e-a-e-it, I have to ask, how important is a man's political ideals
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I hear it is difficult to find a real man on the left.
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It's called Scariest Hell Testimony Ever, and it has a green background.
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There's even studies on NDs, because there's so many.
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Also, Touching the Afterlife is a YouTube channel full of hell testimonies.
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I'll have to, I don't know why it's not working.
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I got this thing that's, I forgot the specific name of the type of camera.
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Anybody in the chat know what I'm talking about?
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But obviously, I have not figured out how to, how to work it.
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Hold on, let me, and the fucking, the exposure, it doesn't have, what the fuck, dude?
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I'm going to swap, I'm going to swap back to the other one.
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So, we'll, we have a backlog of the chat, so we'll just get through all of those in the
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So, Divorce Survivor says, question for the ladies on the panel.
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When a woman stands, here, I'll just pull it up.
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At the altar on her wedding day and says, till death do us part, what does that actually
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I'm, I'm a little confused as to why that is a question.
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It's exactly what it means, till death do you part.
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You, when you get into marriage, you're marrying to be with this person forever.
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Now, obviously, beliefs and religion come into play.
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There's only certain reasons that if our marriage is not going to last, that it was going to be
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those reasons, but other than that, you, it's through thick and thin, or if one of us passes
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I think the point perhaps he's trying to make is, I think it's a, is it a hypothetical?
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What's a, what's a question that is not intended to be answered?
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And he's trying to point out that a lot of people, they get married, they'll say, till
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death do us part, one year, two year, three years later, no fault divorce, later.
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And I think he's directing it at the women because divorce is initiated typically, I think
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We don't get along and I'm going to go find someone better who gets along better with me
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And then while I go get the camera set up, I want you guys to discuss this one.
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She insisted going to pool party at stranger's house without me, uh, after dumping, you know,
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Uh, she insisted on going, wore a bikini, went to the pool party, boyfriend didn't want
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Uh, do you think one, is it wrong that he didn't want her to go, didn't want her to
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And then two breakup justified unjustified discuss.
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Like, did he, did he know who's going to be at this party?
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Like if it was just going to be girlfriends, okay.
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I don't think he'd have an issue with that, but if he knew there was going to be girls,
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guys, there's going to be alcohol involved, there's going to be other things involved,
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then maybe that's when he said, Hey, no, this is where I draw the boundary.
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Well, he also said he found out that she cheated on him.
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Her actually going to the party, wearing the bikini?
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But from his first message that he sent in, it was like, she wore a bikini.
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It's the, it's whatever was going on underlying it.
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And I mean, honestly, she doesn't need his permission to go, especially if there's trust
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I think it was more that she was like insisting that he didn't go with her.
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I think if he was going to go with her and he was comfortable with her wearing the bikini
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But it seems like there was more behind why he was already suspicious of her going without
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him wearing the bikini and then his worries came true when he found out that she was actually
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She had to have given him reasons to feel shaky about the trust and the relationship
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Quite honestly, that was just really stupid on her part to say, I don't want you to go
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It's like, how is that going to turn out good in any way?
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I feel like if you're letting somebody live in your home for two and a half years and you
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don't trust them to wear a bikini, then that's kind of on you.
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Why are you allowing that woman to like basically mooch off you and all your money and like
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your home, like as much as fucked up as it is that she did that, he also chose that woman.
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Well, when she moved into the state, when she moved in, it was, they were in a relationship
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or was it, yeah, see, there's so much we don't know.
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Was there behavior that she was, you know, showing before she actually, before you found
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Because if there was trust there, but yet he just didn't want her to go to the party,
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Because she should be able to go to a party with her friends, no big deal.
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Well, I feel like if she's going to wear a one piece, if she's going to cheat on him,
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The choice of the bikini is on the woman, on what kind of suit she wears.
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He probably means like, are you dressing to impress other guys?
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You know, that's like a more mature way, I feel like of saying, oh, you're wearing a
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Like, are you dressing for the attention of other men when you're living in my home?
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Today I'm going to wear an outfit that is going to impress other men, so sorry.
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A woman who dresses nice doesn't necessarily mean she's doing it for other men.
00:38:47.040
But she kind of seems like she might have been, though.
00:38:49.300
I mean, a hot girl is going to look hot with her without a bikini.
00:38:59.780
I'm sure you guys had a riveting conversation while it's gone.
00:39:08.060
If forced to choose, would you rather have democracy or access to abortions, starting with Pearl?
00:39:20.040
But if I had to choose between those two things, I mean, is the other option like, what, an oligarchy or like a queen or something?
00:39:37.340
I feel like the push and pull between the left and the right is good.
00:39:40.740
Extremist left and extremist right, I think, are not.
00:39:46.640
Let's say that all the political beliefs you hold, whether some are center, left, right, whatever, you could have all those things, but it wouldn't be a democracy.
00:40:00.200
Although technically, I guess we're not a democracy.
00:40:28.620
Damn, y'all, there's like three different answers in the chat.
00:40:43.740
I wouldn't because, I mean, as much as I think that I am, like, right or whatever, like, I'm allowed to have my own opinion, but I don't, my opinions change.
00:40:53.580
I learn more things from both sides or whatever, and I'm like, oh.
00:40:56.600
So I think having, like, I think having different voices allows us to see the truth, which is typically in the middle.
00:41:04.820
So, no, I wouldn't be like, I don't think that my opinion is better than all of the other opinions that exist.
00:41:10.840
So, definitely, I'm pro-choice, and I would still pick democracy.
00:41:36.760
Democracy, but isn't that just, like, a given for the abortion part?
00:41:42.020
Like, if we live in a democracy, we'd probably have access to abortion.
00:41:49.620
I didn't really understand the question, to be honest.
00:41:51.460
I think it's trying to say, you can, with certainty, you can secure the access to abortions,
00:41:58.660
but the government structure would be, like, authoritarian, totalitarian.
00:42:18.440
What ethnicity have you dated that you're not...
00:42:39.160
There's no kind way, or, like, safe way to answer this, to be honest,
00:42:43.520
because then people are going to want to know, why?
00:42:51.660
I'm going to take an audible here and change your question.
00:43:41.480
And if they could, mate, what would that child come out to look like?
00:43:53.200
I mean, I want to adopt, but I want more children of my own.
00:43:58.380
Maybe the aliens could, we could potentially reproduce with them.
00:44:06.980
I mean, you might end up dating one and not know it.
00:44:17.160
I don't think we've had contact, but I think they're out there somewhere.
00:44:23.600
There's like billions and billions of star systems and galaxies and planets.
00:44:34.980
You said you don't think that we've had contact, though?
00:44:37.040
I don't think we've had contact, but I think they're out there.
00:44:43.380
There's so much space that we haven't seen and ocean that we haven't seen.
00:44:51.260
Some people think that they're, like, in the ocean.
00:44:58.160
You think it's aliens or just, like, like, it's these?
00:45:16.280
Would you date an alien if it had a Phase 5 Planet Buster plasma rifle next to its bed when it'd been due home from Gorlock 9?
00:45:27.260
I need to get you set up with, like, a custom DTS thing, like Grid and our boy Paladins.
00:45:34.420
And I'll just ask, so I'm going to also do an Audible, and I'll just bring it back to Earth on that one, and we'll do the firearm question.
00:45:44.420
But going around the table, Madsen did an alien?
00:45:50.740
If it could do everything a human could do, and it looked like a human, I probably wouldn't notice.
00:46:03.280
If it was an avatar, would y'all fuck an avatar?
00:46:09.140
There's people that are actually, like, romantically interested in.
00:46:10.860
And you use, like, your hair or whatever to fuck.
00:46:19.860
They may, but they're, like, they collect their little hairs on their tails.
00:46:28.260
The tail does have, like, little fibers that they can join.
00:46:42.200
If you found out Frankie was an alien, would you dump him?
00:46:49.420
If your boyfriend, you found out your boyfriend was an alien, would you dump him?
00:47:13.540
Robert Tanner, government, Brian, government clarification for the panel.
00:47:18.760
The United States is a federal constitution republic.
00:47:22.360
The idea that we exist as democracy fails to understand our electoral college system.
00:47:29.340
Yo, Tanner, thank you very much for the super chat, man.
00:47:49.720
I think men would be more likely to do that than men.
00:47:53.680
Because there'd be a lot more hot alien women than men.
00:48:01.520
Once, honestly, I think women are going to, if aliens come and they start dating us and
00:48:09.080
shit, who do you think is going to fare worse, men or women?
00:48:13.500
I feel like men are going to be more adaptable to, like, fucking alien bitches.
00:48:28.360
Although, I feel like the alien women might be, like, kind of dong.
00:48:33.600
Because they're, like, we're superior to you and shit.
00:48:36.840
So, like, they're going to be, like, a little dominant.
00:48:39.140
Not at the beginning, though, when they're trying to learn our ways.
00:48:41.200
Maybe they can be, like, molded and programmed to, like, what that guy likes.
00:48:43.200
With all the plastics and shit in the water, like, I feel like a bunch of men are going
00:48:46.460
to be, by, like, in a hundred years, all the men are going to be, like, soy.
00:48:52.940
So, I'm pretty sure, like, all the guys are going to welcome, like, the domi mommy alien
00:49:10.260
The aliens aren't going to come and they're going to take it.
00:49:12.580
They'll be, like, well, you know, like, well, they'll accept it.
00:49:16.800
Like, you know, a little bit easier than a woman would.
00:49:23.840
I don't know what they're going to call that shit, though.
00:49:45.860
Most embarrassing date or carnal knowledge story.
00:49:54.780
I don't have anything exciting for this answer, to be honest.
00:50:07.520
I think I told this story on one of the podcasts.
00:50:11.860
It's really not too extensive or that interesting.
00:50:14.260
But I dated a guy that I knew from, like, middle school.
00:50:33.520
And I was just really trying to, like, rush the date and, like, get home.
00:50:59.120
He said that he went to a sushi restaurant that was, like, on the cheaper side.
00:51:03.880
And he told me that it ended up being food poisoning.
00:51:08.120
So he had to excuse himself and go home and had to tell me that he pooped his pants.
00:51:51.520
He could have just gone to the restroom and threw his underwear away.
00:51:55.240
He actually also had a really bad personality, so that's why.
00:52:00.420
I was going to forgive the pooping his pants, but the personality wasn't good.
00:52:11.800
I met a guy on a dating app, and what he was in person was not what his picture looked
00:52:19.640
Well, you know, he could have been, but I didn't give him the time of day.
00:52:22.000
So, how did his picture look, and how did he look?
00:52:26.040
So, I mean, nationality-wise, it was, but in person, his shirt was, like, stained.
00:52:40.720
And we met, we drove separately to the mall, and then he wanted me to pull out cash, like,
00:52:47.480
we were going to pay separate, even though he asked me out.
00:53:01.980
To be honest, I don't, I can't, I've been thinking, I can't remember.
00:53:08.360
I've already, I've already given a few to this question.
00:53:13.920
I was hooking up with this chick, and she had, but I stopped the hookup, because she had a tattoo.
00:53:24.880
And this tattoo, the location of the tattoo and the tattoo itself were objectionable.
00:53:29.420
Tattoo was located above her pussy, and it said YOLO.
00:53:39.740
There's few things that will deter a man from having sexual intercourse with a woman.
00:54:06.080
But you're shaking your head, you're shaking your head in disapproval.
00:54:11.220
I'm feeling the emotion with you, like, oh, that's gross.
00:54:19.240
Is there any tattoo a guy could have that you see, and then you're like, ah, second thoughts.
00:54:29.180
Maybe, like, something above his butt, and it's a, like, aim here or something.
00:54:33.400
Or, like, the picture of, like, a penis somewhere on their body.
00:54:36.840
Like, a tattoo of a penis, like, near their butt or something.
00:54:55.160
For me, it would probably be anything that's, like, demonic.
00:54:57.780
So, like, if they had, like, 666 on them or something.
00:55:58.440
They're like an incredible web of neurons, and basically the reason we can exist is because
00:56:21.040
So, if we didn't have fungi, our world would just be full of decaying shit.
00:56:24.160
Is that a, but isn't that like a psilocybin mushroom?
00:56:39.660
Oh, you just have a, you have like just an edible non-psychedelic mushroom on you?
00:56:49.340
But it's not, that's not just what it represents.
00:56:52.940
I love all mushrooms, including the psychedelic ones.
00:57:27.140
I've got a cute little dainty dove behind my ear.
00:57:53.260
I have no tattoos and I'm never going to have any.
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That is, I can only imagine it's the actual lyrics to the song.
00:58:13.880
I have, for a memorial to all the animals that I've lost.
00:58:20.960
And this is scripture stating that for all the people that I've lost in my life, that
00:58:25.120
one day when we go be with Jesus, we won't have any more suffering.
00:58:29.120
My calf, my full left calf is a day of the dead girl.
00:58:36.560
And my back, I have a gothic heart and then the notorious tramp stamp.
00:58:42.680
I do, but I got it when I was 30 years old and married.
00:58:48.920
I feel maybe the panel in the chat, those of you watching, is it the case that the sternum
00:58:57.480
tattoo, this one, I think this is the new tramp stamp.
00:59:03.000
It's the tramp stamp of, anybody here have a, I feel attacked.
00:59:08.740
I do think it is the tramp stamp of the, of the mid 2010s until now.
00:59:20.620
Well, you can't really see because my shirt's covering on it.
00:59:24.320
Um, it's just like a half a Bible verse and then I have my hip, it's a rose and then just
00:59:30.800
like a dainty one behind my ear and then one on my ankle.
00:59:35.560
Um, I have, I think I have like six, seven or eight.
00:59:39.020
Um, I have, I don't like any of them, but this says euphoria.
00:59:43.780
I have van, the word vanity, which I highly regret.
00:59:48.000
I have this, which I matched with the father of my children.
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It's like, like kind of looks like a star, but it's a cross.
01:00:07.680
And to be fair and to defend myself, I feel like because I don't have anything up here,
01:00:13.100
it's not like as provocative, but I still regret it.
01:00:20.360
I mean, to, to, uh, to be fair, to be charitable, the sternum tattoo I take the most issue with
01:00:28.980
is the like chandelier one that like every, it's like the basic chandelier.
01:00:35.680
You have your sternum tattoos a little different, still a sternum tattoo, but it's not like the
01:00:45.060
I don't know that that's like the red flag for me.
01:00:50.360
Maddie, you got tattoos, Ava tattoos, any tattoos?
01:00:54.920
Uh, let's get through the rest of the chats and then we'll get into the pre-show notes.
01:01:07.180
Uh, how important is a man's political ideals to the ladies?
01:01:10.860
Starting with Jordan, how important are the political ideas to you for your man?
01:01:30.640
But he's not very like, he's not really as much into politics as I am.
01:01:34.680
A lot of the politics he knows is because I've talked to him about it or told him about it.
01:01:40.780
Um, it would only be important if he leans the same way, if he doesn't lean the same way I do.
01:01:49.540
If he doesn't care about politics at all, then I don't think it would become an issue.
01:01:53.920
So, religious is more important than political to me.
01:02:02.100
And, uh, my husband and I both are the same religion.
01:02:05.780
And because of that, our political views are the same.
01:02:11.200
Yeah, I'm going to have to second with her on that one.
01:02:16.760
It used to not be important to me, but now it is, I think, because the person I'm with,
01:02:21.940
I actually want to start a family with, so it's really important now.
01:02:31.620
I'll just change it to, uh, would you date an alien?
01:02:38.540
I'll just, would you date a guy who owned a firearm?
01:02:43.220
Uh, you go to his house, first time at his house, and he has an AR-15 by his bedside.
01:03:10.640
What book do you see that makes you turn and leave immediately?
01:03:34.800
Um, if he had Joe Biden's book, that's when I would leave.
01:03:43.880
Yeah, it would have to be if they were going in a certain direction that I don't go in,
01:03:53.480
I don't remember exactly what it's called, but it's basically, like, how to manipulate.
01:03:56.940
And I had a friend whose ex had that book, and it was, like, the worst relationship she
01:04:08.360
I'm going to go ahead and say I don't have a book that would be a red flag, but if they
01:04:15.820
I feel like any girly book, like, any book that every girl's read.
01:04:23.960
Maybe, like, a book on how to get away with murder.
01:04:41.540
What's her fucking D'Angelo, whatever the fuck.
01:04:48.480
But if they were smart, like, why would they have a hard copy of any of these insane books?
01:04:59.260
So, okay, getting into some of the pre-show notes for the show.
01:05:04.380
Actually, I'll get Jordan even on before, so I'll come back to some of your notes.
01:05:18.740
Sarah, going back to you, you said that you were dating a guy.
01:05:44.120
And did you guys handle this informally, or was it through the court?
01:05:56.840
Reasons I'm not necessarily allowed to state publicly until the boys are older.
01:06:07.580
Yes, but I'm not necessarily paid it, if that makes sense.
01:06:11.360
There's a court order for child support, but he doesn't pay it, or?
01:06:19.520
I definitely, like, I'm actually, like, trying to create, like, amicability between us, because
01:06:27.780
I know what it does for, like, children, or what it's done, what it does.
01:06:32.600
Even, I grew up, like, not even in a difficult home, but, like, I have so many split home,
01:06:38.360
like, friends, so I'm trying to have, like, meetings with dad or dad's parents to try to
01:06:47.320
become amicable, because we've, like, we were functioning pretty healthily up until I went
01:06:52.400
to court, so, like, that was the issue, was, like, they didn't want any, like, parameters
01:06:58.980
Other than that, it has always been, like, amicable, just under the circumstances of me
01:07:04.960
making it a legal thing, they didn't like that, but there were points where I almost
01:07:17.340
So, I personally feel that what I'm going through in custody is not necessarily with dad, it's
01:07:23.220
with family of dad, if that makes sense, like, I don't feel like the, I don't want to call
01:07:30.560
it, like, a fight, I feel like the sharing of custody is more so with other people, not
01:07:39.540
So, he has, like, parents, grandparents maybe helping out, that sort of thing?
01:07:47.600
Which is good, our children, like, have access to so much love and resources.
01:07:55.940
And was he, um, was he paying, is the custody arrangement, you said, is it 50-50?
01:08:11.120
I don't think I'm allowed to share it, honestly.
01:08:15.260
And it was split because, um, it was felt that there was a lot of animosity.
01:08:22.740
So, there needed to be, which I think is healthy and I appreciate.
01:08:30.720
Wait, where, did you, did you want more custody than you currently have?
01:08:45.060
But I don't know what's going on behind closed doors and I know that God sees everything that happens.
01:08:51.320
So, like, whatever, the path that we've been brought down, like, I definitely see how God has, like, orchestrated all of it.
01:08:58.420
And I just, like, have faith that if this is what it is right now, it's only because there is a healthy component to it.
01:09:07.500
But, like, prayerfully, I am always, like, consulting with God and I'm saying, like, if this is not what's best for my children, for our children, like, I would love to raise them 100% of the time.
01:09:19.700
But if dad is, like, if dad is, like, on the right path and God sees that and sees him fit, then, like, I appreciate what the circumstances are right now.
01:09:28.420
Which, according to our situation, it seems it would be so.
01:09:38.220
Only if their dad is, like, not doing what he should.
01:09:44.960
Like, I don't want to be, like, selfish and rid my children of the experience to not have a dad.
01:09:50.680
Like, I grew up with a single mom and I didn't have access to that.
01:09:57.360
But, like, if they have the opportunity to have a dad who loves and cares for them, and then if I was, like, say to remarry, then they'd have two dads.
01:10:06.980
Like, I want them to be surrounded by as much love as they can.
01:10:15.460
And was he not spending enough time with them before you, or, like, him and his family, not spending enough time before you went to court?
01:10:27.700
There was a lot of, because his life has fluctuated so much, and his, it's just periodic.
01:10:40.340
It's just periodic, the times where, like, he would be absent and where he would be present.
01:10:45.180
So, are you at liberty to speak on what precipitated you wanting to make it a legal matter and going to court?
01:10:59.400
Because you, were you seeking specifically child support, was it?
01:11:04.120
Were you seeking, so you were seeking, so what was he, before it went to court, what was the arrangement he was trying to get?
01:11:16.500
I'm not, I'm not necessarily going to share details, because I don't know what I'm allowed to share.
01:11:40.340
Panel, if your exes formed a club to discuss you, what would they call it, and what would be the club's main activity?
01:11:47.200
We'll come, uh, okay, we can do that really quick.
01:11:59.040
If my exes formed a club to discuss me, what would they call it, um, I miss Pearl, and the main thing that they would discuss is probably how I changed their life for the better.
01:12:31.080
He'd probably say, he'd probably name his club Best I Ever Had.
01:12:41.980
I, I've been married so long that, honestly, I really didn't have a whole lot of boyfriends.
01:12:46.700
Um, probably, yeah, they don't have anything bad to say about me either, so it'd probably be, like, the one that got away.
01:13:08.360
Okay, so you're currently, um, is there a, it's not really, like, in court anymore, though, right?
01:13:16.700
Like, it's already kind of been, the whole custody arrangement's been determined.
01:13:31.560
I mean, it's still under the purview of the court, but it's not, you're not, like, currently figuring out the arrangement.
01:13:42.640
Um, well, I guess my question was, uh, it sounded like going in, so when you went to the court, were you like, I want full custody?
01:14:05.980
The second time, it was more so I wanted things to be evaluated to see what somebody saw fit.
01:14:22.020
The first time, I was, like, getting the majority, um, and he had visitation.
01:14:32.080
Oh, so the first time that there was a court order, you got more custody.
01:14:37.880
And then he was, was he dissatisfied with this, and then he went to the court and requested more custody?
01:14:46.760
So, I, when we had our first custody agreement is when we tried to get back together, and then when we tried to get back together, um, there was a little more unhealth than there had been before.
01:15:08.380
Um, but you said there is a child support order, but he does not pay it.
01:15:14.000
Like, is that creating conflict in the, when it comes to the legal proceedings?
01:15:25.720
I, um, I think everybody around me, like, thinks that I should be receiving money, like, exceedingly more.
01:15:35.260
But I'm personally, like, fine without, like, it's a very low amount, so I could live without it.
01:15:46.380
If, uh, if the court were to award you 100% custody, but he desired to be, uh, you had sole custody,
01:16:01.200
but he desired to still want to see the child, do visitation, and perhaps even have, uh, informal custody,
01:16:10.000
like, say, 50% of the time, but the, the court technically gave you 100% custody,
01:16:15.340
would you, uh, withhold from him his, uh, ability to see the child?
01:16:25.280
Well, then why did you bring it to court in the first place?
01:16:32.000
Um, and it sounded like the relationship was, to some degree, a bit amicable.
01:16:38.460
Perhaps there was some conflict, but have, when you brought it to court, that made things
01:16:46.580
Do you, um, regret bringing it to court retrospectively?
01:16:52.040
So, you think, now that all is said and done, it was, despite, perhaps, the money spent and
01:16:59.120
the stress involved with the process, you think it was, uh, for the better of both of you and
01:17:05.660
Um, I don't, I serve God, so I don't really care about money so long as my kids are okay.
01:17:15.080
And, and, like, my children have been given to me by God, so, um, I, going to court brought
01:17:23.540
me huge comfort because now there are parameters in place that, like, if somebody does something,
01:17:34.600
Um, and I have, I'm just freed from a lot of worry because a lot of things were resolved,
01:17:43.680
a lot of things were realized, and a lot of things were put in place to keep the children
01:17:50.720
And I can't specify what those things are, but, yeah.
01:17:55.680
But when it comes, I suppose, to the actual custody arrangement, you went in wanting 100%.
01:18:04.020
It sounded like he didn't want, at least from what you've told us, it sounded like he did
01:18:16.720
You wanted 100%, but now you've just, the current custody arrangement is 50-50 custody.
01:18:23.080
And I know there's some things you can't speak on, but I guess there's a point of confusion
01:18:29.400
on my end where you went to court seeking one thing, hoping to get one thing, but you
01:18:35.080
ultimately, he still has 50-50, there's 50-50 custody.
01:18:39.800
I understand that now that there's structure, you now have a bit more structure to it, but
01:18:53.560
It wasn't like this, I want the kids all to myself type of thing.
01:18:57.680
I just want, I just felt at the time that, like, they would have been more protected.
01:19:02.820
And just to be clear, when, when I had the majority of custody, I was very, like, even
01:19:10.780
when I was, when we had our first custody arrangement and I had majority of custody, when we tried
01:19:15.680
to work things out, like, I mean, I, I, we were pregnant with our second son and I was
01:19:21.920
driving, like, for dad to see our child, even when he was in a place where he wasn't necessarily,
01:19:27.400
like, like, he was eager to see him, but I was just more so trying to, like, help dad
01:19:35.460
So, like, by no means was it, like, I want 100% custody and to, like, withhold our children
01:19:40.520
It was more so, like, I want him in their lives, but I really want to keep them safe.
01:19:46.380
And since family was not helping me to do that most of the time, I needed to have legal help.
01:20:03.400
Was there a particular family member that is now barred from seeing the child?
01:20:10.940
Well, I'm a little confused on the safety component.
01:20:17.260
But what I do, what I can tell you is that at the time that I opened in court the second
01:20:25.940
time and even the first time, there were huge, there were huge issues going on that have
01:20:33.900
Like, or for the, for the, like, right now, they are not an issue.
01:20:44.380
And just curious, did you say the legal proceedings started while you were pregnant with your second
01:20:54.740
So there weren't legal proceedings prior to the birth of the second child.
01:21:02.080
I mean, of course, after our first child, but that dissolved within the time that, like,
01:21:08.500
we tried to work out our relationship, which is why I had to, like, reopen.
01:21:15.720
I'll read a couple chats, then we'll move it on.
01:21:20.260
Hillary Epstein donated $200, one legal health person to another.
01:21:26.060
What did your parents tell you that you could say on the show?
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What did your parents tell you that you could say on the show?
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Well, I just can't, like, I just can't come out here and say because, like, anybody who
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goes to court, like, you're supposed to kind of keep everything confidential, so.
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Sounds more like you are upset he wants to be involved.
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Like, I truly, truly, if he is in good standing, I want him, I would never, like, want our kids
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to have, to not have the opportunity to be with both parents, so long as they're both,
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Like, I come from a single-family home, didn't know my dad, like, actually never met my dad,
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and then somebody came into my life who also, like, abandoned me, so I know what it is to
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feel rejected by another parent, and I would never want our children to even feel, like,
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the slightest separation from one parent, because I know what it can do.
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I have Myron Gaines from the Crash and Four podcast book called Why Women Deserve Less.
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The whole bookshelf thing, you go to the guy's house, you see the bookshelf, there's a book
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My question to each of them, what are the specific slash qualifications of a first date
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Or if, Mary, to explain your idea of one, also, how important is the first date for you?
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So, the question is, what are the specifics, qualifications of a first date you are looking
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I mean, me personally, I, well, what do I expect?
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I mean, I, what I like at a first date, on a first date is, if a man is asking me to go
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out, like, he's planned where we're going, he takes care of the bill, like, he thinks
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of it as, you know, an honor to have me in his presence, and he's asking me to spend time
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So, I think that, and then while I'm there, I don't know, I like a man who's curious, who's
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interested, who's asking me questions, who's sharing openly, balanced masculine and feminine
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energy, shared values, being attracted to them, things like that.
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Honor your, yeah, like, he's like, oh, like, it's, it's, it's an honor to have this woman
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Well, isn't that precisely what you're expecting?
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For him to think she, I'm so lucky that she's, that she agreed to say yes.
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Well, I mean, you said that it should be an honor.
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The guy should view it as an honor that he's in your presence.
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Like, for you, like, for you, oh, it's an honor to be in your presence, guy.
01:25:25.540
Well, I mean, the guy that I'm seeing now, when I went out with him for the first time,
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I was like, wow, like, I'm, like, this is, he's a great guy.
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Like, I'm lucky to be able to spend time with him.
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But if the guy comes in thinking that himself, I feel like that's a little odd.
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But how do you even get into that as a conversation piece?
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It's just, I mean, it's just, going out with someone, it's just enjoying each other's
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I guess I don't quite understand the whole, they should be happy and lucky that I'm with
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I think that almost puts ourselves too much on a pedestal.
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So, but going back to what you were saying, you said, this is what the guy should be feeling
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But it would be odd if he had the same sort of expectation.
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How many of the panel have perfected the Hawk Tour technique?
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Surveys show that a good Hawk Tour can solve many relationship issues.
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A good, no such thing as a good enough BJ to deal with a quarrelsome and nagging wife
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or girlfriend, but also like just to, it's not that any girl can spit.
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I don't think any of the girls are gonna, no, we still need to go around on it.
01:27:42.160
Uh, so, uh, going back to this, you, uh, you said that it should be an honor for the
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man to be in your presence, but it would be odd if he wanted you to feel honored to be
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I think that there's something about being a woman that, like, men desire, like, to have
01:28:08.540
That's why clubs let out, let, have, want a lot of women, because men like to be in spaces
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Do women want to be in spaces with a ton of men?
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Well, I'm not sure I even agree with the premise here.
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So, I would argue, though, like, if this was actually the case, then all women nightclubs
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They would exist, but the reality is, like, the most popular, the most prestigious, the
01:28:45.460
most, uh, desirable nightclubs, bars, women are going to these environments where there
01:28:53.540
I don't think that, yeah, of course, men also, it's not that women don't want to be around
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any men at all, but I'm just saying, in general, like, men, if men are like, oh, a ton of girls
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are going to be there, they're going to be like, ooh, I want to be there.
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But I don't think it's the same in the opposite direction of, like, oh, my God, there's going
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Maybe men, like, vocalize it more, but I think women are kind of thinking it in their heads.
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That could be a generation thing, too, because, like, when I was in my 20s, I would have definitely
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gone to some reason there was going to be tons of guys.
01:29:32.680
Well, I think there's, there's, like, I mean, women just refuse to acknowledge that they
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have any interest in men, like, or any, women refuse to acknowledge, let me clarify, women
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will, hold on, women will refuse to acknowledge that they do anything for the purpose of men.
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For example, when you wear makeup, it's not for men, it's for you, blah, blah, blah.
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If you wear certain clothing, it's not for men, it's for whatever reason.
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If you go to a certain event, it's not to meet, if you go out to bars and clubs and
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all this, it's not for the possibility of meeting men, it's to go have fun with your
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And while I don't disagree that that can be a component of it, to totally disregard the
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social component of going to these environments in the hope that you will potentially meet
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Right, but you're like, well, the girls, we just want to get together and we don't give
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I think that the point of this podcast is to be controversial, which means that things
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are going to be, you're going to obviously frame them for profitability as either black
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or white when really it's a combination of both.
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Of course, like women dress for themselves and for men.
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That's why we have a conversation about the male gaze and the female gaze.
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And as women, we're like, okay, I think it's good to be reflective.
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Am I dressing for men exclusively and how can I do that less and just dress for myself
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And of course, women are doing things to attract men.
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And of course, men are doing things to attract women.
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But I feel like how we frame it and how we talk about it and what we emphasize really
01:31:25.060
I think that men are socialized to want to be powerful, whereas women are socialized to
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Women are praised for putting every single person in front.
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For example, men, when they're growing up, are taught, this is how you treat women.
01:31:52.720
Women are never told when growing up, this is how you treat men.
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I actually think women are far more self-interested and self-centered.
01:32:00.820
So to say that women are raised to, what did you say?
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And men are raised, I don't know if you use the word raised.
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Are socialized, women are socialized to be good.
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I actually think men are socialized to be good, and women are socialized to be self-interested.
01:32:24.900
We're definitely raised to be ladylike, but not for the purpose of satisfying a man, just
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But then I would also ask, if that's the case, because I'll often, and maybe you actually
01:32:39.280
might have even brought this up on the last show, although I forget.
01:32:41.460
If I say something like, well, men are negatively affected in this way, the rebuttal I'll often
01:32:52.780
But then I can actually just use this argument towards women.
01:32:56.180
So can we agree that, I don't know what the exact number is, but there's a lot of single
01:33:06.540
And are these single parent households more often than not single mother households?
01:33:12.640
And then when it comes to, let's say, kindergarten through sixth grade, we can even do, what's
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the proportion of female teachers to male teachers?
01:33:24.140
So all the influence that these young men have growing up is female influence in the
01:33:32.860
household, where they spend most of their time, and then they're going to spend, what,
01:33:37.140
eight, nine hours a day in school, where the influence is female, not male, typically.
01:33:44.080
There's very few, fewer and fewer as the years go, male teachers in this age demographic.
01:33:50.040
$2,000, show up to a party naked, what other way could you easily attract men?
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Why even wear clothes that barely cover your private parts if that's how you're dressing
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Why even wear clothes that barely cover your private parts if that's how you're dressing?
01:34:31.540
We'll come back to this, but really quick on the Kill of Serial one.
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Would it be fair game for a guy to break up with his girlfriend if he did not want her
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He can definitely break up with her, whether or not it's the right decision.
01:35:00.280
Well, I think we also discussed that we really don't know a lot of the story here.
01:35:06.300
So we don't know if he knew ahead of time that...
01:35:12.800
She wants to go to a pool party where she's going to wear a bikini and there's going to
01:35:23.260
I think that you guys are just not fit for each other and you should find somebody who
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is or isn't willing based off of what you want in a partner.
01:35:33.080
I don't think that one situation should be enough for them to break up or him to break
01:35:37.660
I think that would be stupid if it's just that scenario that you just presented.
01:35:47.500
That scenario is indicative of a much bigger issue, which is there's no trust.
01:35:52.100
I think it is indicative of a much bigger issue.
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And the bigger issue is, is she's inclined to go to the party.
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It could either be he's controlling or it could be that he's picking up that she's not
01:36:09.100
We don't know enough information, like you were saying.
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So it could totally be extremely unfair and like, relax, I'm wearing a bikini.
01:36:17.260
Or he could be like, yeah, you're wearing a bikini because you're trying to get other
01:36:21.800
the attention of other men, which I've seen as a pattern in your life.
01:36:29.220
Well, I mean, just by virtue of, as a woman, if you go to these sorts of environments, whether
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it be a bar, club, house party, pool party, whatever, it doesn't even have to be a conscious
01:36:43.480
thing where I'm like, even if your intention is, I don't have any intention of going to
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this thing to get male attention, you know, by virtue of going to it, that you will get
01:36:57.680
Oh, so if the man is, if my boyfriend was going to get mad at me, because if I wear a
01:37:12.440
For example, if you were to go to the beach with him, men, look, men have different boundaries
01:37:18.680
and when it comes to this specific thing, but going to a party, I'm assuming in this scenario
01:37:24.420
it's without him present, going to a party with your girlfriends or whatever, basically
01:37:42.840
I would, I would, I would ask him, what's your issue?
01:37:45.200
Like, what is your issue with the fact that I'm wearing a bikini?
01:37:48.620
It's not so much the bikini, it's the going to the party, wearing the bikini.
01:37:52.840
And if you're wearing a bikini at home, you probably wouldn't give a shit.
01:38:01.040
And I would say, I'm not there to flirt with anyone.
01:38:11.320
The guy you're currently dating, did he approach you or did you approach him?
01:38:15.740
I guess we just started talking to each other because we were near one another.
01:38:22.180
I mean, no, we don't work together, but we met at his place of work.
01:38:27.000
I was doing a gig there and he was like in charge of setting up the gig.
01:38:51.500
So there's a differential here in the way that men and women flirt.
01:39:02.220
But they'll post like a revealing photo in an effort to get, in an effort to solicit men
01:39:10.840
Grid One Motorsports donated $200 and one cent.
01:39:17.960
It is always interesting when women try to make the case for dressing like a whore.
01:39:22.940
If you dress for the job you want and you dress like a whore, then you are proclaiming yourself
01:39:42.920
You were saying that women post pictures for male attention.
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But you'll go to the bar with the understanding that there's a good chance that men will approach
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I think that some women, for sure, wear clothing to elicit male attention.
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I don't think that that's something that doesn't happen.
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In a relationship, there's an expectation that as a guy, well, it would be cheating for
01:40:12.060
me to go and approach a girl and try to flirt with her while I'm in a relationship, correct?
01:40:18.760
But we have nothing in place in society that frowns upon or shames women by the way women
01:40:26.780
We don't stop women from running the type of game that y'all run, which is indirect.
01:40:35.340
Because like you guys will be, you'll put yourselves out there to give space for men to come and
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But it's frowned upon for men to put down boundaries and be controlling and say, you need to cut
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off your options the same way I'm not going out there and approaching girls and giving
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them or asking for their number and doing all this.
01:40:56.740
Simply you, I'm trying to think of like a good scenario here.
01:41:04.540
It's how like female birds, they will do mating calls and they will puff their feathers and
01:41:12.600
That's kind of what us women do by going out and dressing, you know, certain ways, getting
01:41:19.460
And then the men will approach us because we're kind of putting off that energy.
01:41:28.880
But like, but there's nothing like, I mean, at least look, there are traditional relationships
01:41:33.800
where there's an expectation where if you're in this relationship as a woman, you're not
01:41:37.940
going to put yourself out there, but it's certainly much more common.
01:41:45.300
Hey, the guy has to stop like approaching girls while in a relationship.
01:41:48.720
But the means with which women will solicit male attention don't cease once they're in
01:41:56.400
a relationship posting provocative photos on Instagram, going to these, in my view, are
01:42:04.120
very specific social settings which enable either casual sexual encounters or a means by
01:42:14.080
which people can meet romantic partners, right?
01:42:16.960
And I mean, you can say, well, the club, the bar, it's just, just for fun.
01:42:21.820
But like, you don't go to Trader Joe's and you don't see people getting finger blasted
01:42:26.220
randomly after 10 minutes of meeting somebody at Trader Joe's.
01:42:34.500
I said, bro, people be fucking in the middle of the parties.
01:42:42.240
I've never seen somebody get finger blasted at Whole Foods.
01:43:06.400
In nature, the males are the ones that are brightly colored and show off.
01:43:16.320
Somebody said I'm going to the wrong Whole Foods.
01:43:24.140
So say, whatever, I wear a skin-tight bodycon dress that's short and has a V cut.
01:43:42.340
A tight dress that shows off your curves, okay?
01:43:49.060
I'm in a relationship, and I'm just like, oh, it just makes me feel good, and I wear it
01:43:55.420
Because, like you said, it's not an environment where people are getting, you know, getting
01:44:00.460
It's just, what if I just want to wear that dress?
01:44:03.140
Well, I mean, so I'm not familiar exactly with what that outfit would look like.
01:44:10.680
If you go to Trader Joe's and Whole Foods, and you happen to be approached, I don't think...
01:44:16.720
I'm not suggesting, like, hey, as a guy, your girl can't go grocery shopping.
01:44:21.560
What I am saying is, when it comes to parties, bars, nightclubs, whatever, these are very,
01:44:27.940
So you would agree that wearing an outfit that is, like, maybe tight or whatever, but
01:44:32.480
I'm not doing it to get male attention, because I'm not going to these specific places that
01:44:36.700
are for, like, romantic and sexual and casual connections.
01:44:47.820
I mean, every man has different standards on this.
01:44:50.560
I do generally prefer women who dress a bit more modestly.
01:44:55.720
We're just talking about, like, the sort of generic understanding of, like, is it the
01:45:00.720
actual dress, or is it the intent behind the dress?
01:45:05.420
Well, I think we're getting away a little bit here, because the segment wasn't specifically,
01:45:12.660
It was wearing the bikini to this party, right?
01:45:21.200
Is it okay to wear that dress to, like, a place like Whole Foods or Trader Joe's?
01:45:24.780
I don't know specifically what it looks like, but...
01:45:28.680
A dress that would make you mad or someone mad that they're wearing it to a club because
01:45:32.760
it seems like they're doing it to elicit male attention.
01:45:34.920
I would say a lot of men prefer their girlfriends to dress modestly.
01:45:39.120
Okay, so it's not okay to wear it to Whole Foods.
01:45:44.380
Would it be okay if I'm wearing it in an environment that's not to attract men?
01:45:48.420
Again, I don't know what the specific outfit that you're referring to looks like.
01:45:54.180
Okay, so imagine an outfit that you'd be upset about, or that someone might be...
01:45:57.680
You would say, that's okay to be upset about it.
01:46:01.420
She's wearing, like, short, short jeans with her ass sticking out, and, like, a crop top.
01:46:06.840
I, to some degree, would find this a little objectionable, at least from a girlfriend.
01:46:11.400
Okay, yeah, but that would be appropriate if you're, like, trying to get male attention
01:46:24.980
I don't know, like, that's what she wanted to say.
01:46:30.960
If I was dating a girl, I would hope, in general, that she did dress a bit more modestly.
01:46:36.700
I'm not saying it's got to be a turtleneck and sweatpants all the time.
01:46:40.120
And men have varying degrees of what they think would be appropriate or not.
01:46:45.000
But, yeah, like, ass out, short shorts, I would probably feel a little, like, I'd feel
01:46:54.880
When you get into a relationship and you're committed to someone or eventually get married,
01:47:01.760
You can't just continue to do everything the same.
01:47:04.800
So, it comes down to, if your boyfriend or even your husband at that time didn't want
01:47:08.860
you to go to a party in a bikini, really isn't that important?
01:47:15.820
Women who say it's just skin are too open to hurting the one they are by being too open
01:47:23.680
Sex is sacred to be shared by two people behind closed doors.
01:47:30.500
Oh, he's going to, I suppose, send another one.
01:47:36.140
I'm just kind of waiting to see if it's going to come through.
01:47:40.040
And, look, I think a lot of guys, a lot of guys, when it comes to, look, there's the
01:47:49.100
I'm actually, I would say, a little more flexible, specifically when it comes to your
01:47:56.760
And I do think there's a geographic component to it.
01:47:59.020
But, like, if you live in a really warm climate, like, I think it's going to be a bit more
01:48:03.820
socially acceptable to dress up, show a bit more skin for, like, temperature reasons.
01:48:12.360
Summertime, you know, you don't expect a girl to be wearing a fucking turtleneck in midsummer
01:48:25.740
Grid One Motorsports donated $200 and one cent.
01:48:30.480
B, these girls are used to dating loser coomers, not real men with values, morals, and standards.
01:48:38.040
They would rather dress like a whore than to be honorable and worthy of being in a man's
01:49:02.760
If you show up to a party with your man and dress scantily clad, what message do you think
01:49:14.240
Yeah, that's disrespectful and embarrassing for your man, for you to be out here acting
01:49:22.720
And also, it depends, like, who's going to be there at the party?
01:49:26.940
Because if you surround yourself with a bunch of single people, not that it's bad to have
01:49:35.860
Like, as soon as I got married, I wanted to have friends and women that were married, not
01:49:40.960
only married, but Christian married women who have values.
01:49:45.560
Like, you have to surround yourself with people who have those same values.
01:49:49.080
Like, I'm not going to go out to a club and be giving all of this attention to all of these
01:49:56.000
And if it was like, hey, I don't want you to go to this party, regardless of who's there,
01:50:03.980
It doesn't matter what the reason is, I'm not going.
01:50:17.960
I was just going to say, like, with the bikini thing, for me, like, I really struggled with
01:50:24.080
And I would wear big t-shirts over my bathing suit.
01:50:27.360
I, like, had a really not good relationship with food.
01:50:30.780
It was a huge struggle in my life that took a long, long time.
01:50:33.880
So for me, when I wear a bikini to the beach or, like, to the whatever, whatever I might
01:50:41.160
be when I'm in water or not, like, I'm really truly not thinking, how can I get men's attention?
01:50:50.120
I'm like, wow, I'm confident enough and comfortable enough in my skin to wear this bikini.
01:51:20.680
If you guys want, check out his YouTube channel, by the way, Back to the Roots.
01:51:27.020
Is everybody over, everybody's over 21, except for Madison here.
01:51:34.460
Uh, I think you're going ahead with your point.
01:51:38.380
I would, I was just saying that, like, for me, wearing a bikini is, like, an act of self-love
01:51:46.180
And at the same time, yeah, if I was going, which I just wouldn't go to, but if I was
01:51:50.780
going to some party with a bunch of, like, single guys looking to connect with girls,
01:51:55.520
like, I probably would dress a little bit differently if I was with a man.
01:52:01.500
I wouldn't wear, like, I wouldn't wear, like, my sexiest bikini.
01:52:03.680
I'd probably be a little bit more, a little bit more modest.
01:52:07.560
Um, but I think it would be ineffective for my man to say, don't go to that party.
01:52:20.440
Now, you know, there's not to say the times that your man don't want you to dress a certain
01:52:30.540
I think it's fair for a man to say, like, don't, don't dress for the same things and
01:52:42.420
And it's not even to say that if he leaves to go to the restroom, that a man may not even
01:52:46.080
come approach and even see that you were with another man.
01:52:50.060
But I think that if a man is insecure, he will try to be controlling and say, don't wear
01:53:00.460
But also, I think if you ask, like, a bunch of men what they thought when they saw a woman
01:53:05.980
in a bikini, like, what their thoughts on it, I think they would all agree that they
01:53:10.800
think that they're doing it for other people other than themselves.
01:53:16.080
Why am I living for the opinions and thoughts of a bunch of men?
01:53:19.440
Like, I'm going to live for my own opinion and my own self-confidence and my own self-worth.
01:53:24.340
And of course, take into consideration the person that I'm dating.
01:53:27.760
But doesn't that go against what you just said earlier?
01:53:31.880
About how you were saying that when you're raised, you're raised to be good.
01:53:37.540
And then Brian said, well, doesn't it seem more like women are raised to think about themselves?
01:53:43.340
And then you just said that you're living for yourself.
01:53:45.800
You don't, you're not thinking about other people's opinion.
01:53:47.800
For me, I was not raised to put myself in the center.
01:53:50.500
I was raised to put everybody else, my dad's opinion, everybody's opinion above my own.
01:53:56.800
And for me, growth is learning how to actually think, oh, you know, what do I want to wear
01:54:03.760
You know, how can I live in such a way that actually honors my own opinion and that I'm
01:54:09.560
actually thinking about myself for the first time?
01:54:11.860
Really quick, just show of hands who wants champagne.
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We all have free will as a woman, even if you're married, you have free will of what
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At the end of the day, like my man shouldn't even be in a position to have to tell me don't
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wear that because I have the free will to not wear that because I have the free will to
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So at the end of the day, it's okay to be confident.
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I want my body to look good clearly, but it's not for the attention of other people.
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And I shouldn't make it known that it's for the attention of other people.
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And I think when you're, especially when you're married, like, and I think now that I'm married,
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I do understand, like, you have to, your body has to be, it's for your man.
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And so you have to honor that and you have to be respectful of that at the end of the
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So if your man was like, if your man was like, don't wear leggings, I want you to only wear
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sweatpants because it makes me feel uncomfortable.
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I mean, no, I think we'd have to have like a conversation about that, why he feels that
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And he'd be like, I don't like how men are always looking at your fat, juicy ass.
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Well, I'd be like, well, they're going to look at it no matter what.
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And he's like, yeah, but it's, it's, it's more prominent and it looks like you're dressing
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I guess I just feel like this podcast, honestly, Brian, this is an incredible podcast.
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Like that is, as someone who's in the online space, like that's obviously a huge feat.
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And at the same time, I feel like it's equally difficult to know how to be a good woman and
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And I know that there are a lot of people tuning in to watch these shows.
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And I just, I guess I fear that all of these people who are watching are just getting like riled up to hate on each other and hate on the sexes.
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When really like we need one another to see it from a different perspective and how we communicate our intentions and our desires.
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Like that's just not going to be an effective conversation.
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If I've got a girlfriend and I say, don't do something, she says, yes, sir.
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That statement says that you wouldn't have respect for a man in your life.
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A man in your life seems like a superficial add-on to what outfit you want.
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Statement says that you wouldn't have respect for a man in your life.
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A man in your life seems like a superficial add-on to what outfit you want.
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We have another one coming through, so I'm going to just allow it right now.
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Wait, I think she needs to finish her statement, though.
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I guess if you want a woman, it depends what kind of woman you want.
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Like, if you want a woman who's self-assured, who has self-worth, who has high self-confidence,
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and who wants, like, a relationship or a partnership where there's, like, equal give and take, I feel like a woman like that is going to have a hard time being in a relationship with someone who says, don't do that.
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And immediately, without any discussion, she says yes or no.
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And we're going to get to your viral TikTok that we'll bring it back up.
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I think that a relationship is two people with different sets of strengths helping each other grow.
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I think that, yes, I would like a man who has vision for his life and he has ambition for his life.
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And that that ambition and that vision is something that I am also, that we're going in the same direction so that we can partner together in that way.
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I think that I'm attracted to leadership qualities, yeah.
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But do I want him to direct everything that I say and think?
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And I think that good leadership is one that is like, oh, like, what do you think?
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Is there something that I don't understand, right?
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That's taking everything that I think into consideration, also respects and honors me.
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But isn't it the case that the leader makes the final determination?
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So is a leader to you the only entailment of what a leader is, is only when you agree?
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Or are there instances when a leader will make a determination that perhaps you personally disagree with, but you have to defer to their leadership?
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I think that good leadership knows what its strengths are and knows what its weaknesses are.
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My strength as the leader of the relationship is protecting the relationship.
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By precluding you from going to essentially a single event.
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Well, we're not dating and I would never date someone who has that ideal.
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So to me, for instance, I'm dating somebody who has more financial literacy than me.
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So if we're talking about something finance-based and he's like, don't do that.
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I'm going to defer to him because he knows more.
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But in a situation like a social situation where I might be wearing something that makes him feel uncomfortable, it's going to be a give and take.
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And if he was like, no, don't do that because I'm uncomfortable with it, I would have...
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I would say, why do you feel uncomfortable with that?
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I think, you know, when it comes sometimes to conversations like this, I think no is a one-word sentence.
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Honestly, that's what a relationship should be.
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No, I shouldn't have to for something like this.
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I don't think it's necessary for me to have to justify my reasoning.
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You think that all male and women and female relationships should be exactly like that, where men say no and women say, okay, whatever you want, no questions asked.
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So long as women continue to demand leadership qualities when said leadership qualities stand to benefit you.
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For example, you said that in the guy you're dating right now, you enjoyed the leadership qualities, the initiative qualities when it came to he asked you out, he planned the date, he paid for the date, he moved things forward, he went for the first kiss.
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You love it when men are leaders in that regard.
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You only want leadership when it benefits you, right?
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You don't want the other component of leadership when you have to defer to him in other situations.
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So you only want a leader when it benefits you.
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When it doesn't benefit you, all of a sudden it's 50-50, you want equality.
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In order for you to be with a leader, you need to be a follower, point blank, period.
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I think that that is a very black and white way of thinking about leadership.
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I think that there are ways that you can lead that allows a little bit more give and take than what you're, than how you're thinking.
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I feel like it's, I think, I think what you are, are you or wanting and what you think is one person is in complete and total leadership and one person is in complete and total submission.
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If that's what you want and you want a girl who also wants that, then go for it.
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I take more of a yin-yang approach, meaning the man leads in most ways and then in some ways we have more discussion.
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So equality, like the buffet of equality, you pick and choose what you want, the equality that benefits you, you disregard the equality that doesn't benefit you.
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The ways in which I lead in the relationship, he benefits from those.
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I mean, by having insights and discussions about things instead of just completely submitting to-
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Well, for instance, if we had a discussion about if he was uncomfortable with something that I'd wear, I don't think it would be something where he says, I'm uncomfortable.
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And then you'd be like, well, you're a pansy and insecure for feeling this way.
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You would just continuously badger and badger and keep trying to seek the justification.
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Why would I have to say more than, don't do it, this makes me uncomfortable?
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I don't even think you need the, this makes me uncomfortable.
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So what would be, okay, we'll role play, we'll role play as your boyfriend.
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And you don't want me to wear something too revealing because I just, I don't know.
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Is there a way in which we can get to you being able to articulate how you're feeling?
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Because your feelings really matter to me and I want to make sure that you feel comfortable,
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And I just want to make sure that I am, that we have good communication.
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So can you go into a little bit more depth about why that makes you feel uncomfortable?
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I mean, I don't know how else to precisely articulate this.
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I know with certainty, I feel uncomfortable with it.
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So, so you don't want to communicate to me why, or you don't know?
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I don't know what else you want me to tell you.
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I guess I want you to say why you feel uncomfortable with me going.
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Is it because you think that I'm dressing for other men?
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Uh, I just think it's, when it comes to this, it's a boundary that remains a reasonable dating
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So the way in which I'm dressing makes you feel like it's inappropriate for our relationship?
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I think that this is a further discussion about our long-term compatibility.
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So you, you're essentially preempting the breakup then?
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Well, I would say if I'm with someone who doesn't know how to communicate what he's feeling,
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I know we're still role-playing a little bit, but.
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I mean, yeah, if that's what you think communication is, I guess I'm looking for a deeper level of, uh,
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self-awareness and self-understanding and communication, which means we're probably not compatible.
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Even if you have no intention of talking to other men, men are going to come up to you.
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They could try to, you know, put something in your drink.
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And as my role as protector in the relationship, I'm trying to protect you too.
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I don't want something bad to happen at this party.
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You don't want me to go to it because you, you care about me and you don't want to see
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I care about your safety and I care about the relationship.
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I mean, if it makes you that, are you still going to the party?
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If it makes you that uncomfortable because you really, you actually are scared for my
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Like, are there reasons that make this party make you feel more uncomfortable than the
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I'm just saying like whoever I choose as a partner, if they're actually, if it's not
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coming from insecurity, it's not becoming because it's not because of distrust, it's
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not because of insecurity, it's genuinely for my protection, then I'm like, oh, I'm,
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I'm open to hearing from you and I'm open to not going because this is a discussion that
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But if I sense that it's out of lack of self-awareness, lack of, and because of their
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insecurity, then I'm like, let's tease that out a little bit because I don't think that
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it's good to have a relationship where the other person feels insecure.
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If it truly is like, if you wear that, if it's an insecurity, because I'm going to
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get male attention and you don't like that, then that's an insecurity because I'm like,
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And if he's like, oh yeah, like, let me reflect on that.
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But if it's truly about my protection and he's like, listen, I know the kinds of guys
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If he communicates into a way that's with sincere love and like protection for me, then I'm
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like, listen, I don't understand, but you obviously are a man, you know how men think.
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And like, you're really, if the guy I'm, if I'm the guy that I'm dating right now, he's
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So if he was like, if he was like, yeah, in a second, if he was like, please do not go to
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that party dress like that, like it is not going to go well for you.
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I would be like, I might not fully understand that, but it seems to me like this isn't coming
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Before I have her come in, I'll just say what you call insecurity.
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Um, so earlier when we got the question about what is your ideal, you know, date or whatever,
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and you said something along the lines of a man who is equally masculine and feminine.
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Would you describe your current boyfriend as feminine?
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I would describe him as masculine, but he has feminine energy as well.
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I had, um, I guess like not every situation comes down to trust.
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And if you're going out there and everyone's like, you're like, bro, I saw your girl at
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So in the Bible, it says avoid all appearances of evil.
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So that's where she's going with that is that nobody, if somebody sees you
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out doing that, they don't need to know anything about you.
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They don't need to know why you went, who you went.
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Well, yeah, I think honestly, and I think that it's, it's somewhere in between.
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Like if my, my best friend is having her bachelorette and we're all going out, I'm not going to
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not go because someone might think that I'm doing something with my man.
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Me personally, I don't like environments like that.
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I don't like, I don't like, like, I don't want a ton of male attention.
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So I don't think I would ever have that issue, but I don't think that it's at the same time.
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I just think the way in which you approach a conversation matters.
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And by saying no and the person saying, okay, fine.
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What, what is actually wrong with a guy just saying no?
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Well, I personally just don't like people who don't communicate.
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Well, I feel like that would be like something that would kind of come up at the beginning.
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And for me, a one word answer, a one word answer that doesn't have like, I guess, a deeper
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understanding of why, like if that's already a thing that's like communicated between the
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two of you and it's like, when you say no, I know exactly what that means.
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I know this is a little off top, maybe somewhat on, I mean, if, do we extend the same logic
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If a woman is saying, no, you can't have access to me in this way, then a man should say no.
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But you're saying, no, don't do, like you're telling the woman about her behavior.
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If a woman's like, I want to come onto you and you're like, no, that's totally fine.
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It doesn't map on one to one, but I'm more so trying to probe the logic of you need
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Sometimes communicating no is completely appropriate.
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When it comes to sexual advances from a man or sexual advances from a woman, no is completely
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I think if a woman need only just say no, she need not justify her no in order for the
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A woman should just say no and that should be enough.
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If a woman's coming onto a man and the man says no, that's completely enough.
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I mean, like kind of looking into the logic here.
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Well, so you think that the same amount of communication, no matter what the discussion
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I don't, I don't think if, if a woman just says no, I think you'll leave it there.
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But if you're having a conversation outside of that, like, uh, it's different.
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Different topics require different amounts of explanation.
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Like if you're talking about what to wear or whatever.
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I don't think in this specific situation we're talking about, I don't think as the
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guy, if this is an expectation that you have in a relationship.
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If this is the expectation that you have in a relationship is a very important prerequisite
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I can't imagine myself having this sort of conversation with a woman ever because one,
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Similarly, I don't date to, I don't date women who go to par, uh, bars, clubs, and parties.
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So I don't think it would even come up to begin with.
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I don't think it would come up to, it hasn't, and it won't come up with, come up to begin
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with in my relationship either because I don't go to clubs or parties either.
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I mean, I go to gatherings, like festive parties or whatever.
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I might go to a pool party, but not like parties like that.
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But I also like, if I do, if again, if my friend's having a bachelorette party, I, yeah,
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I do have to, I'm going to move it on just because we've spent a long time on this.
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Um, I, I guess I will, and if anybody wants to add anything, we can, I guess I'll just
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Gentlemen, don't be in a serious relationship with a woman who doesn't realize the importance
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of limiting her own behavior to protect the relationship.
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If you respect your partner, you don't engage in activities designed for single people.
02:16:53.080
Um, I just, part of the confusion here is like you have this viral TikTok and you've said
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other things on the show, which leads me to believe that you do want a more traditional
02:17:12.540
But this would be like a great example of a leadership moment where the guy is exercising
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some degree of leadership and authority in the relationship.
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But you're like, in this instance where it conceivably comes to your detriment in some way because
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he is exerting some degree of control, you like, shut it down.
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You let me take the lead on everything else except for when it comes to you being promiscuous
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and revealing with your body around random guys at a singles party.
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I mean, I think the assumption is that I am being promiscuous and revealing with my body
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at parties, which in my opinion and in the opinion of the person I'm dating, I am not.
02:18:16.640
Uh, really quick before we get into more of the chats, Nick, can you pull up Twitch?
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Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever, drop us a follow and a Prime sub, and then we'll
02:18:26.680
Um, guys, twitch.tv slash whatever, drop us a follow and a Prime sub.
02:18:30.760
So, guys, uh, Duren, thank you for the 10 gifted.
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Guys, it's been six minutes since we last got a Prime sub.
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By the way, guys, just to be clear, because I think some people, maybe my delivery's a
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I don't, I'm not actually thinking it's bugged.
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It's, I, is it, is it not clear, Nick and Maddie, like, is it not clear?
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At first, I thought it was unclear, but now I get it.
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Like, I thought people got that it was a bit, but then now I'm, like, people are thinking
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Um, but I thought it was super obvious that it's a bit.
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I thought, I thought my delivery made it seem like, especially since we do it every time.
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I thought people would get that it's a bit, but I don't know.
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Apparently, some people were, like, Brian is defrauding his, he's trying to bait people.
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Brian, this is your self-appointed health coach, per your request.
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Yo, Brian is so fat that he goes to a restaurant, looks at the menu, and says, okay.
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Don't forget how much influence TV and social media has on socializing men and women.
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Women can talk about custody unless you have an NDA slash also all men don't want their
02:21:12.100
Real men won't let you go clubbing or have girls' nights out.
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And, yeah, I think, you know, maybe, I don't know what percentage of men would be cool with
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Do you think it's like a small minority of men like me who give a shit about this?
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Let me read the, uh, Maddie, can you read this?
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The word of God talks about all sorts of extraterrestrials.
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Also, we haven't discovered billions of galaxies.
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It's simple be anything that gives her power is good.
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It is about trust and the fact that she can go out to shop around and you won't leave.
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It is estimated that there are between 200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies.
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That gives, does that ever, you ever think of something really, really big and it makes
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Like so big that you think, wow, I'm just a speck of dust.
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Two billion, 200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies.
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So, I don't know that no would be sufficient enough, but I'd be impressed if I even got that
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To the extent of what you gave her when she kept coming back.
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I'm saying I'm impressed that you even did that and most men are not going to do this.
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You're saying most men just like after the third, like, well, I still need to know a
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I think the initial no, she's going to do what she's going to do.
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If you're still there when she comes home, I think that's a second conversation to have
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Men do you talk about their feelings that much?
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She was emotionally and mentally and spiritually abusive.
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Well, but at the same time, you were role-playing.
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No, honestly, my husband would leave the room, and I would just put on Grey's Anatomy.
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For trying to satisfy what she was trying to get out of that.
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Because, like, they don't know how to go really deep.
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And to even get that out of a guy you're dating, let alone expect to get that out of your husband.
02:27:28.680
Wait, what is that Patrice O'Neill bit when it comes to dating?
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Men want to be alone, but we don't want to be by ourselves.
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Men want to be alone, but we don't want to be by ourselves.
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Like, we want you, like, around the corner, you know?
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In the house, but not necessarily in the same way.
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You want us there, but not necessarily right there.
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Where were, oh, we got to get through more of the chats.
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You have to explain why you feel that way, though.
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So, I mean, like a good devourer or a bad devourer?
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She is allowed to go out by herself dressed however she wants.
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And when she comes back, she can collect her stuff and go live with her new boyfriend.
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And you can also not be in a relationship with her anymore.
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I think everyone should be with the kind of person they want to be with.
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I do kind of low-key think I need a slave, though, in a relationship.
02:30:09.820
You want to be with someone who wants a female slave?
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If you want to be a female slave, be with Brian, because that's what he wants.
02:30:23.200
You don't really offer that Fifty Shades is a great thing going on, though.
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I think that that was a beautiful, beautiful thing that you just said.
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That was so beautiful, because that's really what you want.
02:30:32.940
And that's, like, the essence of, like, this vibe and this show.
02:30:40.820
I think that that really demonstrates, like, this show, who you are, the people you attract.
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She should be on the first date willing to deep clean your house, is all I'm saying.
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If you want to be like that, be with someone like Brian.
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Is that a date or an appointment, a cleaning appointment?
02:31:06.820
You know what's so crazy is that, like, the way that my man treats me and how he honors
02:31:12.800
and respects me makes me want to deep clean his home.
02:31:18.340
But if he was like, I want a woman who wants to deep clean my home, I'd be like, oh, I don't
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But how my man approaches me, I'm just like, wow, you just, like, you listen to me, you honor
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me, you respect me, like, you have conversation with me.
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Like, I'm just, it literally inspires me to want to deep clean his home, and I have.
02:31:39.820
So you'd be, you're willing to deep clean the home.
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I desire to cook for him, to clean for him, to haktua, honestly, all of it.
02:31:59.040
But the moment that a guy wants, the moment that a guy wants those things from you, or
02:32:15.980
But I think what's, I think what's better is, like, he just treats me, what I like, what
02:32:19.960
I personally want in my relationship, is to not have somebody who wants to, or expresses,
02:32:28.080
Like, I don't like that energy, and I don't like that vibe, which means we're incompatible,
02:32:32.520
What I like is when a man is so masculine, but also has some feminine qualities that's,
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like, listens to me and understands me and, like, is kind and nurturing in his own way.
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90% of the time, I want him to be out there, working, being his, like, masculine leader stuff,
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like, planning dates, whatever, and then, but he also has a little bit of, like, listening
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to me and caring for me, and then that just, it makes me want to clean his whole house.
02:33:05.560
That's how, like, most of those dynamics work out, though.
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He's never explained, he's never once said, I want a woman who cleans my house.
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He could be thinking it, and what he does is he shows me through his actions that he
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cares about me, that he respects me, that he honors me, and it inspires me to want to
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do whatever I can to make his life easier and better.
02:33:33.940
Well, this would be almost like saying, well, a girl doesn't want a guy to be a provider,
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But in so doing, by her not really caring about that, she ends up receiving it.
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So she doesn't care about that, doesn't want it, but the guy will still, because she doesn't
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Except in the case for you, you're very vocal about your desire for men to pay for dates.
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I mean, it's not about, it's about the way in which you vocalize it, is what I think.
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Like, for instance, saying female slave versus like, I really enjoy when like a woman likes
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And then it'd be like, oh, how could I do that?
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Like, I don't, you know, have time to clean my house.
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So like, that would just make me feel really like good and happy.
02:34:46.180
And yes, I will say that a lot of men actually aren't that good at that, which is not their
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Because we socialize men to not really be able to communicate with like that much like
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But at the end of the day, I feel like the socialize.
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Men are better communicators than women, hot take.
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Thank you for proving, thank you for making my argument for me.
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But they're not, they're not as like expansive.
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No, I mean, I see what you're saying, but you got to understand also, like when I say,
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when I use the term slave, like it's a bit tongue in cheek to degree.
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I'm not like, although if a girl was like down to be a slave, I'm not going to say no.
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I think men communicate and speak very directly because they think very directly.
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Like their brains are not orchestrated how ours are.
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When they ask us how's our day, we're going to tell them what happened.
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Went to the supermarket and I found this and this is on sale.
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So, oh, yeah, I met this girl and I got her number and we're going to meet at Starbucks.
02:36:30.260
That's, I mean, men are very simple creatures and they think how they speak and they speak
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Yeah, we're not going to include all this flowery language and like exposition and a preamble.
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I think men and women need to understand that we communicate differently and kind of meet
02:36:59.140
Sorry, I heard this new word salubrious and I'm trying to find a way to say it.
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Maybe I got to start saying I need a salubrious woman.
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We do wish for men to be more elaborate and men wish for women to be more direct and we're
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That's written in Hmong, but I don't know how to pronounce it.
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I think some of these aren't even, like, regular words.
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Brian, understand manipulation when it reveals itself.
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Once they have you emotionally, they have you for the taking.
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You're going to have to redeem yourself from the abuse.
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I need you to sing the Queen of the Night aria.
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We're not even in a relationship, and you're saying, do it, and you expect me to just say,
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Anyone else would quit, and you're not going to stop there.
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Maddie, actually, Jordan's going to read these.
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Number one thing men do in a relationship, that is the number one flag to end it.
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And do you think that reason is the national is happening?
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Okay, so here, we'll just do, what is the number one thing men do in a relationship that
02:40:32.720
I don't think I really care about this that much, but just not listening, you know?
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Just listening to you talk, even if it's, like, bullshit, you know?
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I think every woman just wants to be heard, but...
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Like, not just being heard, but actually listening, responding, nodding, showing that you're actually
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Yeah, but I also understand that's not the way men work, so I'm, like, okay with it.
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I don't really care that much, but I think that's a big reason why a lot of people break
02:41:11.280
Well, I think men can learn from women, and women can learn from men.
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Yeah, I would probably say the same thing as lying.
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So, once trust is broken, it's not easy to get back, and then the man will have to work
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Like, a big red flag from a man in a relationship.
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Or just, like, why you think people are breaking up.
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I think people are breaking up because they always think they can find someone better, but
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Maybe if you double how much you're paying me to be on here.
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Wait, did we not even finish going around on that?
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I have a bit of a hot take that might be surprising with the lying one.
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I think that lying is a huge red flag, definitely.
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And sometimes I do feel like men lie because women don't know how to handle the truth.
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I would rather hear the truth, even if it's hard.
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Like, I think that men are like, oh, you're the only girl for me.
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But if they really said the truth, which is just, listen, I kind of just want to fuck.
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Like, I don't think that girls would be cool with that.
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But then I think everyone just needs to tell the truth, learn how to handle the truth,
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and then go their separate ways if they don't want the same thing.
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Those are two, I kind of strung that sentence together.
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But flight attendant, travel nurse, nurse, any career where she travels frequently, sternum
02:45:10.620
It's definitely a controversial opinion on the pit bull thing.
02:45:13.220
Well, also, just like a lot of women get these big dogs that they cannot physically restrain.
02:45:18.920
And women, no offense to women, men fuck up a lot, too, when it comes to training dogs.
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But like women are a lot more lax when it comes to the training of their pets.
02:45:36.300
If all men had some form of mental illness and you had to choose to date from these three, PTSD, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, which one would you rather date?
02:45:51.000
People saying in the chat, it's not the breed, it's the owner.
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Yeah, the difference is, though, when there's a poorly trained chihuahua, the amount of damage they can inflict on somebody, kind of minimal.
02:46:15.480
Although now somebody's going to turn this around and bring it to the gun argument, blah, blah, blah.
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But, I mean, dog, it doesn't map on one-to-one.
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If your girl is going to acro yoga, she's done.
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It means that she hooks up with men to use their shower facilities slash bed.
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If you see a girl on a dating app and she's doing van life, I'm in town for the weekend.
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She posts more than three Instagram stories a day.
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She posts more than three Instagram stories a day.
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On my personal Instagram, I don't post any stories.
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You've never seen that person that posts, like, 30 stories a day?
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Unless you're trying to, like, run a personal business.
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See, my stories, though, are, like, business associated.
02:48:20.080
I was going to say, yeah, do you post for my...
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And if she has a lot of posts on Instagram, like, a thousand plus?
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Like, anybody who has a thousand posts on Instagram...
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Honestly, if a guy has a ton of selfies, red flag.
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Can I say one weird red flag that I thought of?
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It's when a guy will post pictures or send you pictures of himself, and it's, like, the worst quality.
02:49:28.860
If you want to raise another man's kid, date a woman like this.
02:49:33.080
She'll go get pregnant off someone else while singing about how inspired she is by...
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Look, honestly, women need to answer to their man.
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Even says it in the Bible, the only thing a real man wants is low body count, peace, and sub.
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They really seem to forget the more important part of that Bible verse.
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That the husband needs to love his wife as Christ loved the church.
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Well, going back to the chat from Tank here, though.
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Look, I think the woman should take the bullet.
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If all men had some form of mental illness, and you have to choose to date from these three,
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PTSD, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, which one would you rather date?
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I would do bipolar, because actually, I mean, I have family members who have that, and if
02:51:29.380
you're on the right medication, and you can live a pretty normal life, PTSD, you almost
02:51:37.620
I mean, you can go through therapy, but things can just set you off.
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I think I would, I think I got, oh, do we, I'll let the, go ahead.
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We've had some, I've met bipolar girls, even if they're medicated.
02:52:23.340
Yeah, there's a little something still not all there.
02:52:32.480
I feel like it's really sad to, like, reduce people to their illnesses to say that they
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don't deserve or, like, need a romantic partner.
02:52:50.120
I actually think, well, I think it's totally fine if somebody, on the basis alone of somebody's
02:52:58.440
mental health diagnosis, if they don't want to date them because of that, that's totally
02:53:02.580
But I don't know if that's exactly what you're arguing, or...
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I just personally would feel bad for somebody who's watching who has bipolar, and by one
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of us saying that they wouldn't date a bipolar person for this reason, that reason, the other
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reason, like, I feel like that would make that person feel like we're saying they don't
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deserve, because I feel like the question was here kind of in a derogatory way.
02:53:28.420
I thought you were going to say it makes them feel bad, and I was about to say so.
02:53:33.480
I have diabetes, and I, like, am very, very aware that people, like, probably don't want
02:53:40.500
to pass it on to their children, and this reason and that reason.
02:53:44.280
They don't want to live with the lifestyle, so they wouldn't date me for that reason.
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I personally wouldn't be hurt, but I'm sure there are, like, a million other diabetics
02:53:50.400
who'd be like, why are you not going to date me just because I can't eat sugar or carbs
02:53:55.060
Well, I don't know if, I mean, diabetes, I don't know if it compares to, like, more
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mental health thing, but I don't even think, I mean, I mean, if somebody didn't want to
02:54:10.300
date you because you had diabetes, I don't think there's actually anything wrong with
02:54:18.820
I just would hate for other people who are seeing it to feel, like, lesser than because
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of something they can't control, if that makes sense.
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There's a bunch of short guys that can't control their height.
02:54:36.260
Yeah, but it's literally an insult followed by a compliment.
02:54:40.860
I actually got a bit of flack because I, this must have been two or three months ago, I said
02:54:45.540
that I do think it's, I don't know exactly how I framed it, but I said something along
02:54:51.620
the lines of, my advice to men would be, you should not date women who are bipolar.
02:55:00.060
Oh, and that girl that was bipolar and stabbed, poked someone.
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Got pushback from her, got pushback from the bipolar community.
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Look, these people are certainly deserving of compassion and empathy.
02:55:15.020
And I wish them the best in dealing with their, their diagnosis, but I don't actually think
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it's wrong to give prescriptive advice to say, for example, I do think it's suboptimal
02:55:33.900
And I think it'd be a disservice to my viewers and audience to like choose to omit having the
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conversation of guys, you probably shouldn't date women who have BPD.
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The shouldn't date women who have XYZ diagnosis.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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But I think it's a disservice to like ignore the impact that these things could have in a
02:56:09.640
I just don't want to hurt people's feelings like point blank, which is, which is, I'm sorry.
02:56:14.660
Look, uh, and it's look, if somebody is fine with dating them, they're willing to, uh, they're
02:56:21.560
I don't, I'm not saying that they aren't deserving of love or that they should just stay, be alone
02:56:44.420
Uh, so, uh, do you think it should be disclosed if you're dating somebody?
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I think even something as like minor as depression and anxiety should also be disclosed.
02:57:09.560
And then if you're married and something comes up later, this comes back to the
02:57:18.300
If somebody later gets schizophrenia as they get older or something, they go in the military,
02:57:23.580
they get deployed, they come back and they have that.
02:57:32.140
Now there's never know how far that goes, but that, that, that's the whole point of till
02:57:38.540
Although I wonder, I mean, what if the mental illness starts manifesting itself in abusive
02:57:45.520
Well, that's what I mean in that, if it goes in certain directions where your health and
02:57:59.120
It says, these women here want a slave to use their money.
02:58:04.280
It's actually long, but no disrespect to Maddie.
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I said it was, um, just thought it'd be fun for her to read her language.
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Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10, starting with Pearl.
02:58:30.980
So are you asking me how like symmetrical my body is?
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And like, if I have the ideal hip to waist ratio, is that this question?
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Rate your face out of 10, rate your body out of 10, and rate total out of 10.
02:59:02.880
My face and my body in total, meaning how other people perceive me, how I perceive myself,
02:59:12.300
Well, so my worldview is it's this, that's all the same.
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I perceive myself as a 10 because that's the best way to move through this world.
02:59:31.620
How symmetrical I am, the golden ratio, all that stuff.
02:59:35.000
I'd have to get scanned by a machine and them to tell me.
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And so to answer the one that you brought up, what about how you think, I guess, men perceive you?
02:59:43.200
I guess I would say that that's subjective and I also don't care.
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And I think that it's not helpful to comment on it or even think about it for a second.
02:59:52.540
Because I think that women are valued for their looks, especially how men value their looks.
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And I just don't think that that's a helpful conversation.
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And I'm sure men would probably, some men would rate me a four.
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And if we're talking about perfect symmetry, no one is a 10 out of 10.
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I think that what makes someone beautiful is more holistic.
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So personality, confidence, these things are relevant.
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If you're asking, do I think I'm at, I, men desire me and think I'm just as beautiful as
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I think that how, how people perceive me and how people perceive them is irrelevant.
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No, but do you think you're as beautiful as them?
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I think that I see myself as a 10 and that if they see themselves as a 10, then we're the
03:01:00.800
But so looking at like a really attractive supermodel, do you make the assessment?
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Do you think you're just as good looking or perhaps even more as they are?
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Is it to see how self-aware I am about how symmetrical I am?
03:01:26.840
Because that's what it seems to be that this, that this should, because if I
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rate myself at a 10, y'all are like, oh my God, you're so stupid.
03:01:37.700
I'm like, if that's the question, then I don't, then I don't know.
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It's going to be that I move through the world.
03:01:49.940
But aren't you able to make determinations as to like the physical attractiveness of
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Like, am I more conventionally attractive according to like Eurocentric beauty standards?
03:02:06.860
Because that's how conventional beauty standards.
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Ladies first, we don't care what you rate yourself.
03:02:16.120
What would your average rating be on a picture rating website?
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Like, oh, I'm never going to see you ever again.
03:02:54.940
Would you prefer your current boyfriend to vote for Kamala or Trump?
03:03:00.500
Well, I think when it was Joe Biden and Trump, it was a different story, in my opinion.
03:03:05.360
But Kamala and Trump, I would probably, I'm like, I would prefer him to vote for Kamala.
03:03:22.760
What would your average rating be on the picture rating website?
03:03:29.600
All right, so going around the table, what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten
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What do you rate yourself on a scale from one to ten?
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You can throw out a number and I can say it for you.
03:04:45.520
Oh, I thought you were, it sounded like you were about to say something, so.
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Now, going around the table, do you think you'll be better looking in ten years' time?
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I think I'll be aging, and I don't think that, I think I'll still have the confidence of a ten.
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Will you be better looking at 42 than you are now, at 32?
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I think that this question is, like, just kind of dumb.
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Because it doesn't give, there's no range, there's no scope.
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Like, I'm not even allowed to, like, ask, like, deeper questions about it.
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So, you are allowed to ask your really deep questions.
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I think that women shouldn't think about rating their beauty at all.
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I think that women should think and walk into rooms and be like, I am a ten.
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And when you think, like I said before, when you believe that you're a ten and you really
03:06:07.760
act like a ten, you're like, I'm a sexy baddie, then you actually start to become more beautiful.
03:06:16.340
When you have a self-image that's high, it actually helps you become more beautiful.
03:06:21.480
When you think of yourself as low, then you don't dress as well.
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You tend to not take care of your body as much.
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So, I just think that it's better for women to think of themselves as a sexy baddie who's a ten.
03:06:34.300
And so, you said when a woman walks into a room.
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Let's assume this room is a party-type environment, like a socializing environment.
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There's single men, single women, she's single, whatever.
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Should a woman walk into that room thinking that I'm a ten, of all the single men in here,
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I can get every single one of them, should she think that?
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She doesn't want to fuck all the men, but she thinks she could get all the men.
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I think getting all the men is a different question than do you have the confidence of a ten.
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Do I think that a woman should walk into a room and say, I could get all these men?
03:07:23.100
Well, why is that unrealistic, but believing you are the most beautiful woman in the room
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I think it actually, having an attitude of I'm a ten and just not comparing yourself to
03:07:38.220
other people or other women is really helpful for women.
03:07:43.600
That's what I believe and that's what I've experienced.
03:07:46.120
When I was like, oh, I'm a six or I'm a five, I acted like a six and a five.
03:07:50.300
When I think that I'm a ten, it actually allows me, I work out, I take care of myself, I encourage
03:07:56.460
I'm not comparing myself to other women at all.
03:07:59.540
Well, I can think, I can make the counter argument here and say that women who are not
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tens but think they're the tens see no need to improve.
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So they won't go to the gym even though they're overweight.
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Like, do you have like any sorts of like, do you know that women do a thing?
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No, but I'm just saying both of these things are just opinions.
03:08:32.280
Well, I think the question should be framed a little bit different just so people understand.
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Like, we're trying to differentiate, like, it's good to be confident, but we're talking
03:08:42.320
about a lot of times women have like overly inflated sense of self and they're not being
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Like, security says I'm better than all these women.
03:08:59.780
What I'm, confidence is saying, I don't care who's in this room.
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I don't care if Kendall Jenner, all the Kardashians are in here.
03:09:07.800
I'm a 10 and I'm worthy of being in this room and I'm beautiful and people will love me
03:09:12.340
and be attracted to me and I'm attractive and I'm desirable, but you don't need to be a
03:09:17.800
It doesn't, I mean, if we're talking about being more, it's a good point.
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Cause I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sexy and I'm a bad-ass and I will take anybody on for anything and,
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but I will still only rate myself as a six cause I'm realistic.
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I think we're trying to figure out like, okay, out of a hundred men, like what would be your
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If that's the question, then my answer is I don't give a fuck.
03:09:51.660
So going back to the aging one though, better looking at 42 as compared to 32?
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You said it was stupid, but answer the stupid question.
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I think that physical beauty definitely decreases as you age.
03:10:17.120
It's probably, it's going to, it's going to decrease as I age.
03:10:20.480
But so, but it won't decrease until 52 because you said, I don't think it's like a science
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The skin isn't as smooth and there's marks on the skin.
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Were you better looking, or excuse me, are you better looking now at 32 than you were
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Will you be better looking at 36 than you are now at 26?
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Can you either strain up or just scoot your mic this way a little bit?
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And were you better looking at 18 as compared to now at 26?
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You probably shouldn't be commenting on your looks as a minor.
03:12:03.480
Will you be better looking at 37 as compared to how you are now at 27?
03:12:23.480
And then, do you think you're better looking at 18 as compared to now at 27?
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Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
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And then, were you better looking at 37 as compared to now at 47?
03:12:55.360
Will you be better looking at 35 as compared to now at 25?
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And then, Sarah, will you be better looking in 10 years' time as compared to now at 28?
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And then, were you better looking at 18 as compared to now at 28?
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You said all women are 10s, I think you said, though, right?
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Well, I thought, like, I'm saying all these women are a 10.
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Like, you see the full value of, like, all of them and their beauty.
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So, like, you guys are all equivalent when it comes to looks.
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There's not one girl here who's maybe a little better looking than the others.
03:14:08.160
Well, we're all of, like, different shapes, sizes, ages.
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I also think that if you place, like, each individual's, like.
03:14:25.800
I think if you, like, placed each individual person in front of, like, say, like, my, like,
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so my, for me personally, the people that I've used opinion of me is, like, my friends,
03:14:43.040
And I think all of them would say, given what they know about me, that I am, like, an extremely
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Otherwise, why would they want relationship with me?
03:14:52.880
Well, do you mean, like, your personality or your looks?
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I was trying to respect the question, because the guy put looks in capitals, but I do, I
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do know that beauty, primarily, for me, has to do with personality, values, characteristics.
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Like, you could be with somebody who's, like, absolutely gorgeous, but they could be really,
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like, inconsiderate, lacking a lot of, like, values that you lack, so you wouldn't see them
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And I think with wisdom comes confidence that makes a person, like, uphold themselves.
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And I think, I know for a fact that, like, confident people, some, there are some people
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that are not very attractive, who have so much confidence that it kind of, like, amps
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Well, while I will agree, well, at least for men, anyways, while I'll agree with you that
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confidence in men will make a man more attractive in general, I don't think it makes him more
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Although, certainly, like, you know, if you carry yourself, I will grant, look, I will grant,
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for example, somebody who scowls all the time, who's got sourpuss on their face, who's frowning
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a lot, RBF, whatever, this person is going to be appraised when it, when we're talking
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about their looks, is going to be appraised as less physically attractive than somebody
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who's a bit more bubbly and effervescent and who has a more positive disposition.
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I will grant that, like, having a positive outlook, a positive mental attitude, being happy,
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smiling, yeah, these things will assist in your, in the appraisal when it comes to looks.
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But, uh, not to, like, a degree where you can take, like, a really, really unattractive
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woman and, like, a, uh, who's happy or whatever, and, like, a 10 out of 10 model who's, like,
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The people, like, generally speaking, people are still going to praise the woman who's a
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model as more physically attractive, even if she's kind of got a scowl on her face.
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Well, like, you can be attracted to somebody and it's not physical.
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Like, you, I mean, you can feel attraction about somebody's mannerisms or how they speak,
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And it might not even be physical and you can find something attractive about them.
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But if we're talking, like, purely physical attraction, I mean, across the board, people
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are going to be pretty, um, we have universal standards of what's attractive and what's not.
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For most cases, like, symmetry, like, women having a small jawline, you know, bigger eyes,
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Well, let me ask this question related to, like, the aging component.
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Do you think that the average 35-year-old woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old woman?
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So, do you think the average 45-year-old woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old woman?
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I hope that I beat the average, but I'm going to say.
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Yeah, but it's comparing average to average, right?
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Yeah, but I'm going to just say, like, average, especially nowadays.
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Yo, Chad, do you think the average 35-year-old woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old
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The average 25-year-old woman is hotter than the average 35-year-old.
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As opposed, because I just feel like, like, people now are not aging as well as, like,
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But you ever see these old videos of, like, people in high school in the 90s, and they
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There's a lot that people are doing today that, back then, to affect your looks.
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So, I definitely looked a heck of a lot better in my 30s than I did in my 20s.
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As a woman gets older, do her dating options typically increase or decrease?
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If, as a woman gets older, her dating options decrease, doesn't this mean that they're less
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No, because men know that this older woman has way more standards.
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She's way harder to get than the younger, naive.
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I think as you grow older, the less, like, high standards you have because you're getting
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Like, here's my, here's my argument for it, right?
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I think your standards raise, I mean, they should raise.
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But you're saying, so as women get older, they become harder to get, right?
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Um, I don't know where my brain was going with that.
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Um, I think they are, yes, they're harder to get because these women now have much more
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standards and they're not willing to put up with games from these young dudes who want
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So I guess I disagree though, because, so if it was, if it was easier for, so like you're
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So you think, for example, a 35 year old is actually, no, let's do 30 and 20.
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Do you think a 35, 30 year old man, like the average, average 35 year old man, and then
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average 30 year old women, average 20 year old woman, who do you think he's going to,
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he's going to have an easier time actually getting the 30 year old or the 20 year old?
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Because men are not intellectually as, because men do not intellectually age and mature as fast
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So they're going to match with somebody who's kind of more on their level, which is going
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Well, younger women are easier to manipulate as well.
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And mold and shape and she'll put up with a lot more.
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So, but you're, you're saying like, I would argue, I would argue that younger women, if
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you're an older guy, younger women are harder to get than women, your own age.
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Wait, so the older men don't want women, their own age.
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But what I'm saying is, in order for a 30 year old guy to date a 20 year old, he can't
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For him to be able to attract a 20, like a 20 year old, he's going to have to bring, like
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he's going to have to be attractive, exceedingly attractive in some metric.
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He's got to bring, he's got to bring, he's got to bring money.
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He's got, it would be different if it was just like a one night stand.
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But if they're looking to like date, then like, yeah, she's going to look for something.
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Like, but he could, but he could have, he could hook up pretty easily.
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You think a 30 year old has a better chance fucking a 20 year old than another 30 year
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No, it's, I would argue most, most men aren't, most 30 year old men are not going to be attractive
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I would argue that a 20 year old woman is going to need like a lot more for her to be
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Like he can't just be, if she's an average 20 year old, he's going to have to like excel
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in some sort of metric of attraction to be able to date her.
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But he's 30, but like intellectually he's like 25.
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She's five years younger than me intellectually.
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Cause your average 20 year old, if she's not very, I don't want to say not very attractive,
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but if she definitely is not the girl who got the guys all the time, she is going to
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easier be with that 30, their average 30 year old.
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If you're someone who's always been able to get the guy because you're just hot, then
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you're not going to go for that average 30 year old unless he's got something to bring.
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Unfortunately, it looks play a huge part in this.
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Cause I was just seeing where your head was at with the saying how they're a lot less mature.
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Also, you mentioned younger women are easier to manipulate.
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But then you also said that women as they age have less options.
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So aren't you harder to manipulate if you have more options?
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And don't the people that have more options tend to be younger women?
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Aren't you harder to manipulate when you have more options?
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If you have more options, you're harder to manipulate.
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So you're saying men like younger women because younger women are easier to manipulate.
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Well, I disagree that older women are harder to get.
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Or that younger women are easier to manipulate.
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So first off, I don't think anybody should be manipulating anybody.
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But I could, for example, provide, I could provide this.
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A woman who's 35, who's like, I want to have children.
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You could just make the argument she's easier to manipulate because she's like, shit, I got
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Can you just make the argument she's easier to manipulate?
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As you get older, you're supposed to learn from your experiences.
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So if you're 35 and getting manipulated by some dude.
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Younger women are easier to manipulate, but not more desperate.
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You could promise her the world, but she might just believe words instead of actions.
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Whereas an older woman would be like, I've been through that.
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I'm going to see what you do, not what you just say.
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She might be like, I really want to get married right now, and I want to start having kids,
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but I'm not going to settle for someone who just talks.
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So, a younger woman might be more inclined to like, well, I don't want kids yet.
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But promising the world to a woman who's like, I need to settle down, she's easier to manipulate.
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Whereas the 20-year-old, oh, you want to be a provider?
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These 20-year-old girls, oh, you want to be a provider?
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Do you think when women are younger, they care more about looks than the male who can provide?
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Do you think college girls care more about looks or a guy who can provide?
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Okay, so you can't promise a 20-year-old girl the world because they don't give a fuck.
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Do you give a fuck about if a guy can provide for you when you're 18, right?
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You probably care more if he's, like, fun and cool and good looking, right?
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But the 35-year-old woman who's also desperate.
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She wants a cool, fun guy who she gets along with.
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But the 35-year-old woman who's desperate is going through a screening process.
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And if any of that, if you're not passing those tests, you're out.
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And if a woman is doing something right as she gets older, she already has everything she needs.
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If she's waited that long, too, to find somebody, she's just not going to settle.
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What does it mean to manipulate somebody, though?
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How would I manipulate a 20-year-old woman that, like, I can't manipulate a 30-year-old?
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Because the 20-year-old doesn't have as much experience.
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She might be getting manipulated without even realizing it.
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She believes the things that you say without knowing that it's a game.
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Because she knows what she wants during that time.
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It's not really manipulation if that's what she chooses to do, and that's what she wants
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But manipulation is saying one thing and then doing another.
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Like, he's saying, I'm going to promise you X, Y, and Z.
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She realizes two years later, man, this guy really ain't worth...
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So, I think that the length of the relationship plays a huge part, too.
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Because I think that two girls can meet a guy, and the guy can...
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Okay, let's say that there's a guy, and he is dating the 30-year-old and the 20-year-old
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He's playing a completely different game, but still manipulating both of them.
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I think the relationship with the 20-year-old will last a lot longer, because the 30-year-old
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Or she will be able to read into things much more quickly, like see his...
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Because you just gain wisdom as you grow older and experience things, especially over the
03:33:05.320
While I would tend to agree with you that as you gain experience, you're perhaps more impervious
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to manipulation, but her claim was men want to date younger women because they're easier
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I think that men want to date younger women because they're like, oh, she has perky-ass
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I think that that's why men want to date young women, because of pretty much their biological
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I think they get women because they're easier to manipulate.
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They get the women because the women are more easily manipulated.
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Yeah, they're easier to get when they're younger.
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I think younger women are easier to manipulate.
03:34:14.060
What does that have to do with a guy who's men's attraction to younger women?
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I mean, I think that it's easier for them to get younger women because they're easier
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Like, a younger woman might be like, oh, my God, he drives a Porsche, and he has money,
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Whereas an older woman might be like, I don't give a fuck what kind of car you drive.
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Like, it's just not going to be as impressive as her.
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She's probably not overly preoccupied with, like, wow, does he have, like, some penthouse apartment?
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Like, most young women who are in college will date the dude who lives in a dorm room,
03:35:08.540
will date the dude who's got, like, three roommates, three housemates.
03:35:12.000
It's older women who are going to have higher expectations.
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A 18, 19, 20-year-old girl will date a dude who takes the bus.
03:35:22.100
Would it be, perhaps they might have a preference.
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But this idea that women who are older don't care about the material things.
03:35:30.540
I think if there's a young guy who's good looking, he doesn't really have a lot going on for him necessarily.
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Yeah, a young girl's probably not going to be as, like, no, I'm not going to date you.
03:35:42.800
Another guy who's 30 is also pursuing her, but he has a car and a house and more money.
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She's probably going to pick him if he's also good looking.
03:36:06.540
Well, the thing is, though, the thing is, though, is here's the thing.
03:36:10.480
So, I don't think that's the case because there's not, there is not a lack of men who are in their late 20s or 30s who are well off or have jobs, whatever, who would love to date an attractive 20-year-old baddie.
03:36:28.440
But it seems to me that most 20-year-old women, there are some 20-year-old women, no problem, we'll date an older guy.
03:36:36.100
Most 20-year-old women probably want to date men around their age.
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And we know this because those are the men that they're dating in relationships with and sleeping with.
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But you think, if we were to pull, if we were to pull all the 20-year-old women, what's the distribution of them who are dating men in their 30s?
03:37:10.280
Because it's probably like less than 5% of them are dating men in their 30s, and then 95% of them are dating men their age.
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But I think more of them are dating a guy at least a year older or somewhat older.
03:37:57.140
He wants to manipulate this younger, this 24-hour younger.
03:38:23.180
Of the women who are 20, who are in, who are like seeing somebody dating a guy, hooking
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up with a guy, you think more often than not, it's like a guy around their age as compared
03:38:43.560
Unless they're looking for someone to pay for their college.
03:38:47.500
A lot of the time when it's a really big age gap and the woman is a lot younger, she's
03:38:51.480
usually there for other, like ulterior motives than just wanting to be with him.
03:38:58.920
If it's really big, like if it, if it gets like 20 plus, like 20, 40, there's probably
03:39:06.320
But I think like 20 and like late, late 20s, early 30s.
03:39:13.340
Like he could just be like really attractive guy in his.
03:40:09.480
Look, I never said a man shouldn't love his wife.
03:40:28.340
But, yeah, but he's only choosing one part of it until we brought the other part.
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Unfortunately, men tend to want to only bring up one part of it.
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This one's about to disappear, so just read this next one.
03:40:46.180
Young impressionable women fall for this degenerate media and behavior that can be extracted
03:40:53.460
Other vanity projects to warp our youth indoctrinated and ungood.
03:40:58.980
If you're truly a 10, there should be no need for makeup.
03:41:01.040
Would you be willing to get the wipes and show us what 10 could look like?
03:41:15.600
I only refuse because, like, I already messed with my skin enough.
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I'm a 30-year-old guy who owns his own business that had his wife leave him.
03:42:06.420
It's been two years, and I don't date because women don't hold the same standards as men.
03:42:18.040
Actually, going back to that one, you guys said that, like, as a woman gets older, like, her standards increase.
03:42:27.040
So, I completely actually disagree because, like, knowing that there are, like, women who love God at the table, like, there's something in the Bible that says if you're equally yoked, like, your values will be enough to allow you to work in a relationship regardless of age, regardless of circumstance, regardless of this, that.
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I think that in order to support each other in, like, your work that you're doing under God's influence, like, to encourage each other, there are better matches.
03:43:00.720
But ultimately, if you guys, like, are obeying God to the same extent in, like, following all of his instructions, there should not be an issue, like, at all.
03:43:10.620
So, like, the standard thing is kind of wiped off.
03:43:18.280
Well, the unequally yoked is definitely part of it, but the thing is, is we also, as we get older, no matter if you're married for 5 years, 10 years, 15, 20, 30, 40, as a person, you should want to take care of yourself.
03:43:30.540
And if you take care of yourself, you will still be attractive to your spouse, and if your spouse does the same.
03:43:35.780
So, if you just allow yourself and you go, you know what, I got you, 5 years in, I've gained 40 pounds, I could care less, then you've now changed the dynamic of the relationship, and you shouldn't be taking away what helped.
03:43:47.420
But isn't it implied in the Bible, too, that, like, we need, that we do need to, in a way, like, take care of ourselves in order to serve our husband?
03:44:01.680
I mean, I feel like, for me, the way that I have, like, viewed it is, like, how my husband met me, and the values I held going into saying my vows the day of the marriage are the same values that I should carry out into my marriage.
03:44:17.020
I shouldn't just change who I am and my values just because I'm married, and, oh, yeah, I gotcha, you know, we're married now.
03:44:23.880
Like, I could just give up on myself, like, that's not fair to me, that's not fair to him, and he shouldn't do the, he shouldn't do the same thing.
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Or he should do the same thing, take care of himself.
03:44:34.560
Were you guys just as confident before you were with the person you're with now?
03:44:41.420
No, I wasn't, and that's why I'm saying I met my husband when I was 24.
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And over the last 21 years, my weight's gone up, it's gone down, it's gone up.
03:45:02.040
But I had to find myself, and he was there to support me.
03:45:08.500
I want you guys to rate me on a scale of 1 to 10.
03:45:57.200
He's putting himself in a position to be judged.
03:46:03.280
He said, he looked at us and was like, none of you are 10.
03:46:05.860
I'm going to say 5, but only because values differ.
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You could be literally the most like handsome man in the entire world.
03:46:38.140
And if like it's just not it, you would still be a 1 to me.
03:47:16.200
Guys, we're going to react to Pearl's viral video.
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I use this hack to shame cheap men who want to split the bill.
03:47:46.800
Oh, I mean, guys definitely say it's manipulative.
03:47:55.000
This 100% genius hack will get 50-50 cheapos in check.
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Splitting the bill on a first date has become a topic of contention.
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One shady dater has devised a deliciously devious trick.
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That's sure to leave tight-fisted fellas with egg on their face.
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When a man wants to go 50-50 with you on a date, do this.
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This whole entire time, I thought this was a date.
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I wouldn't say that I want a traditional guy, no.
03:49:16.160
I would like somebody to pay for the first date, yes.
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Because the kind of man that I'm looking for...
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I'm looking for, like, the father of my children, life partner, somebody who has ambition, leadership qualities,
03:49:33.060
like, someone who has, like, honestly, like, a job where he could, you know, where he's, like, looking for a wife, someone who wants to take care of a wife and his children.
03:49:42.180
And, like, if I get pregnant with his babies, that it's, we're not going to be fucked if we get married, you know?
03:49:46.440
Like, so I think, like, to me, I don't think of, like, it being modern versus traditional.
03:49:56.300
I just think, like, what kind of energy do I want?
03:50:00.940
And I think the standard that I have is that if a man asks me out on a date, I would expect that, like, out of courtesy, he would take care of it.
03:50:09.740
Do I actually think that women should use this as a hack to get men to pay for them?
03:50:15.580
I think that women should live in such a way and have the kind of energy where that if a man asked them out and they had a conversation, it would just, that's just what they would want to do.
03:50:25.040
And if they don't want to do it, that's totally fine, but I would just really probably see that person as a friend.
03:50:34.180
Oh, if you want to split the bill on the first date, like, we're probably just not a long-term match.
03:50:42.820
I think this was a skit to illustrate a standard, and a standard is different than manipulation.
03:50:47.540
I see how people could take it as me giving them a hack, like the Shira 7 kind of stuff,
03:50:56.020
I had no idea it was going to blow up the way that it did.
03:50:58.820
But, yeah, my standard is if a man asks me on a date, he's picking it.
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And I get to say yes or no to the date, but if he planned it and he picked it,
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the very first thing I feel like a good impression is to take care of the bill.
03:51:15.300
Well, regardless of whether you intend to employ this hack.
03:51:22.740
That's what all the posts and all the people in the comments called it.
03:51:25.380
Regardless of whether you actually employ this, oh, you want to split the bill?
03:51:35.080
So if a guy did want to split the bill, there wouldn't be a second date, correct?
03:51:41.180
If he did split the bill, it wouldn't be a second date.
03:51:42.840
Yeah, if I went to coffee and he's like, hey, can you Venmo me six bucks?
03:51:45.900
No, he doesn't say that, but he goes in, he orders his thing, he arrives before you,
03:51:49.820
and then you arrive, he doesn't go ahead and pay for yours.
03:51:56.520
But what if he like overtly uses communication and says, no, this is a date.
03:52:02.320
Like, I am romantically and sexually interested in you.
03:52:05.140
Yeah, I would be very surprised, and yeah, I probably wouldn't want to date him.
03:52:08.560
Even though, because you're saying, well, I wouldn't date him again because he wants to be friends.
03:52:13.440
But he's saying, well, I don't want to be friends.
03:52:15.360
I actually want to date you, but I also don't want to pay for your shit.
03:52:21.660
Going around the table, who should pay on a first date?
03:52:44.100
When I was younger and more easily manipulated, yes.
03:52:52.900
My friends, I mean, even my male friends, I never pay for myself.
03:52:58.900
You said when you were younger and you were dating guys, like, you would split.
03:53:06.340
I think the majority of the times men would say yes.
03:53:08.400
Did you ever hook up with any of these guys that didn't pay?
03:53:26.380
It wasn't a normal occurrence, but it did happen a few times before, but now it never happens, ever.
03:53:36.860
This was the big point of contention on the previous show.
03:53:48.260
That wasn't your answer, though, the previous time.
03:53:55.200
I was like, oh, I didn't even know that it mattered that much to men.
03:53:59.760
But I was like, oh, I truly didn't even know that it would matter that much.
03:54:03.580
But, yeah, if my husband wanted me to take his last name, like, I have no problem with that.
03:54:16.940
Like, he just said, you're taking my last name.
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And if he was like, that's this, I would prefer, like, I really want you to take my last name.
03:54:38.940
Well, I'd have to determine if his last name was cool enough.
03:54:44.980
But I don't think, that's actually not true, though, now.
03:54:49.140
And I'm allowed to evolve and change my opinion.
03:54:52.100
And I think that that would totally be great with me.
03:54:55.020
Even if he had an ugly ass last name, I would still take it.
03:55:01.380
Yeah, thank you so much to the Whatever Podcast.
03:55:05.620
But we did point out that when we brought this conversation up, and you're like, well, I don't know.
03:55:47.320
I would prefer personally if my man was the kind of man who would want to take care of
03:55:53.520
They don't have to, and they can date someone else who wants to do that.
03:55:58.360
Like, why should it be that men should pay for first dates?
03:56:07.920
I'm not saying that all men should do anything.
03:56:10.420
If there's a 50-50 man who doesn't want to pay on the first date for whatever reason...
03:56:16.720
He should be paired with a woman who also wants to do that.
03:56:22.000
In your female friend group, what would you prescriptively tell your female friends?
03:56:27.540
If you're giving her advice and a guy did this, you would be like, well, if that's the
03:56:32.840
arrangement you want, or would you prescriptively say, he's not the guy for you?
03:56:40.060
And if she was like, I'd prefer that if he paid for it, I would say, okay.
03:56:46.620
And she was going to you for guidance, what would you tell her?
03:56:48.780
I mean, I think that men who want to take care of the first date are typically, I think
03:56:55.300
it's related and correlated to leadership abilities.
03:56:59.380
And men who don't want to pay for the first date, I feel like, probably have been burned
03:57:04.720
by women, have been maybe manipulated or taken advantage of financially, and are skeptical
03:57:13.000
I think that there totally are women who use men for their money.
03:57:15.420
Um, so I think that, you know, that they should have that discussion, like, you know, and
03:57:30.500
Well, just to, um, make my answer a little bit more clear, if a man asks you out, whoever
03:57:38.460
is asking the person out should be paying because you are essentially taking initiative.
03:57:43.880
And for me and a man, I like a man who takes initiative.
03:57:46.960
I like a man who can take, you know, charge of a situation, whether good or bad.
03:57:52.520
And if we're on a good date, you know, we're both trying to get to know each other and that's
03:57:57.400
But at the end of the day, if you have set this date to happen, then you got to see it
03:58:04.800
You do understand though, that it's mostly men who do take the initiative.
03:58:11.340
Um, I take the advice from my father and he says that if you're on a first date, if
03:58:22.920
But if they want to split it, then that's fine.
03:58:24.900
It doesn't, it shouldn't really matter whether you split it or, or, or they pay.
03:58:29.780
Like I've been on dates and I've, I've offered to pay and I've paid the whole bill, like just
03:58:37.200
Does it make you feel any way about that person?
03:58:41.960
I've paid for bills and I, it's not something I get upset over.
03:58:45.140
It's a preference, but it's not something I would get, you know, offended over.
03:58:59.360
I think that whoever takes initiative should definitely pay the bill first.
03:59:02.560
Um, I think it would be weird if he like asked me out on a date and then he was like, all
03:59:08.460
Like I'd be like, Oh, he shouldn't even let you see it.
03:59:12.340
He should just grab it and not even let you see what it says.
03:59:17.840
I went on, I like initiated a date and he like, he paid for the bill without me even
03:59:24.260
looking and I was like, Oh my gosh, like this man is like amazing.
03:59:29.700
Even when women initiate, they'll still get the treatment.
03:59:34.920
Uh, you know what I think, you know, it's fair.
03:59:39.900
We men, we continue to be initiators, but you guys pay for the whole date.
03:59:47.140
Like we have to do the burden of asking you out.
03:59:56.120
Well, if it's a burden, you probably don't want her enough.
04:00:08.520
Set a panel of women who have never been rejected.
04:00:15.420
Wait, have none of you ever, like, have you ever been to a party?
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Have you ever been to a party where you rejected every single guy who approached you?
04:00:27.900
And do you think, like, there were other girls at the party that also rejected them?
04:00:33.800
And then, like, boom, rejection, rejection, rejection.
04:00:37.160
Have any of you ever been to a party and approached man after man after man and been rejected and
04:00:46.080
Yeah, but I'm also holding the burden of feeling bad for rejecting you.
04:01:02.800
But also, I don't know if women would necessarily do the same.
04:01:13.260
Do you not remember that, like, it was so hard for me to give you an actual number,
04:01:55.040
I mean, it still is harder for the man, though.
04:02:25.040
So, you know, I've been getting a lot of criticism that, you know, we previously had a black baby and a white baby.
04:02:43.220
So, we have, Nick, could you put it on this camera?
04:02:46.320
I've purchased, to be considerate and be diverse, I purchased an Asian baby.
04:03:23.840
What are you going to do when you become a dad?
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I said I understand why you went to court for that.
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No respectable person will probably pick you up with your children right there.
04:04:22.300
No, you didn't say you needed one of the helmets.
04:05:38.320
I was hoping for a little conversation, but you just want to go straight to getting my digits.
04:05:56.080
It's actually looking like you're not the type of woman that I'd actually want for myself,
04:06:22.500
You have to wear the fedora the rest of the show.
04:06:58.980
You want to be the best partner a man has ever had, absolutely obsessed with you.
04:07:05.580
You need to wake up every single day, and you need to be the first person who's on your
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The ways in which you don't know how to love yourself are going to be projected onto
04:07:24.280
So, taking inventory and auditing every part of your life and saying, where can I love
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myself more, is going to help you be the best woman any man has ever had.
04:07:57.340
I think that women grow up, like we saw, I mean, at least I did, growing up in media
04:08:04.420
where it's like the woman discovers her confidence when the man tells her she's beautiful.
04:08:08.920
And it's like we're always externalizing and seeking validation from outside sources instead
04:08:18.200
And I think when you learn to validate yourself and you learn to just like love yourself for
04:08:24.080
who you are, your mistakes, your flaws, where you're at in life, and to just like be
04:08:32.000
your own, be the person who, you are your safest place.
04:08:36.080
And the person that you're wanting to love you, if you can love yourself in that way,
04:08:42.380
I find that you tend to attract people who will love you in that way.
04:08:47.220
And if you think of yourself as like, I don't know, not worthy or like not beautiful, then
04:08:52.840
you tend to attract people who kind of are going to manipulate you or use you or not really
04:09:00.300
So I find that how you think of yourself is typically projected into like the people that
04:09:06.880
So if you want somebody to like be completely and utterly and totally obsessed with you,
04:09:10.780
which I feel like everybody does, then really completely and totally being obsessed with
04:09:17.280
yourself in the sense that not that you think that you're better than other people or that
04:09:22.340
in comparison to other people, you know, you're somehow superior, but saying I am who I am
04:09:28.280
as I am and I accept myself and I like that about me.
04:09:33.160
I like how I handle my failures and I'm okay with me as I am.
04:09:37.200
You tend, you'll attract people who think in the same way.
04:09:47.060
Do you think that everyone should think that way or that's just your personal views for yourself?
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I think that most women, I mean, it depends on who the woman is, like, but I think most
04:09:58.120
women, we all have to go on a journey of like self-confidence and self-growth and self-love
04:10:03.540
and understanding that our worth doesn't come from anything exterior or we don't have to
04:10:08.420
externalize it or get validation from other people.
04:10:11.020
And it's funny because when we do go on that journey, we tend to actually get more validation.
04:10:15.840
We tend to actually get more love from other people.
04:10:17.900
So whenever I see a woman who keeps attracting men in her life who are like kind of like
04:10:23.480
toxic or just like aren't treating her well, it's usually because she has low self-esteem.
04:10:28.740
When her self-esteem grows, she typically attracts men who honor her and who cherish her and who
04:10:38.000
You don't really, you're just like, okay, you're like fine with whoever you are.
04:10:48.920
And also maybe seeing the things that maybe aren't so good about you.
04:10:54.300
Maybe you are somebody who doesn't, who, you know, I don't know, is a bad friend or whatever
04:11:04.720
I'm going to, you know, become better in this area.
04:11:10.140
I mean, how many, how many women here, your first boyfriend or first couple of boyfriends
04:11:15.880
were pretty crappy or even ones after that, right?
04:11:20.260
And so that has a lot to do with the fact that you, you haven't figured anything out.
04:11:28.060
Hence, that's where the guys come in and they treat the woman like crap.
04:11:30.760
Now, if you, that doesn't grow, if you don't grow as a person, you continue to attract that
04:11:37.480
These are things that, yes, you're going to have that when you're younger, but you should
04:11:42.620
Because when you think well of yourself, you don't accept behavior from other people in
04:11:49.240
So if you think, oh, I'm unworthy, then you're going to attract men who treat you like you're
04:11:54.080
But if you think, no, I'm, I'm an amazing person.
04:12:01.700
I've been with myself through all these obstacles and mistakes.
04:12:04.280
You're going to attract people who treat you like that.
04:12:11.600
Isn't there some sort of, some degree of tangibility or objectivity when it comes to
04:12:20.600
Like, are you just an amazing person because you're a person?
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Or do you actually have to be like, have redeeming qualities about you?
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I think you do have to have redeeming qualities about you.
04:12:29.180
So I can't, I mean, but I'm confused about the whole, I need to be myself as amazing.
04:12:45.540
So yeah, I do believe that when you think of yourself and you respect yourself, you have
04:12:53.920
self-respect, you have self-worth, you're going to attract men, and you're going to reject
04:12:59.000
men who don't see you with self-worth and self-respect.
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And that's why as you age, your standards become higher.
04:13:04.220
Typically, if you're self-aware and you're thinking about yourself, you don't have to
04:13:07.660
You can say, I'm amazing because I've healed this trauma, I've grown in discipline, I've
04:13:15.440
grown in character, I've read all these books, and I've learned from all these wise women,
04:13:22.420
There are things that you can point out in your life that grow your confidence, and they're
04:13:26.660
usually, and I don't need other people to say, you're beautiful, you're this, in order
04:13:32.340
Because I could just tell myself, because I see myself, and I've been through all of my
04:13:38.940
I was going to agree with Brian, though, because I just wasn't understanding.
04:13:42.600
You were saying something like, you accept who you are and everything, but then you also
04:13:47.400
were saying, oh, I'm such a good person, and I'm this and I'm that.
04:13:56.180
Because I feel like some people just say, I am who I am, that's it.
04:14:02.040
They're not like, really, you know, thinking these good things about themselves.
04:14:09.900
Yeah, I think it's good to think of yourself highly.
04:14:13.120
And I think it's not based off things that aren't based in reality.
04:14:16.920
But you should also want to think good things about yourself.
04:14:24.900
Hey, you know, if you work out, I hit a new personal record.
04:14:32.360
That should be something that you're very much proud of.
04:14:35.040
So it's okay to be proud of yourself for your accomplishments.
04:14:41.140
I think, yeah, I think confidence is definitely like...
04:14:49.700
I think to what you're saying is like, should they're being happy with who you are and...
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Yes, you should have confidence and value yourself.
04:15:21.100
But not at the expense of settling and just saying, oh, yeah, I'm happy with where I'm at
04:15:34.280
You're not doing anything about changing, fixing, growing.
04:15:38.480
It shouldn't be at the absence of not trying to be better.
04:15:42.160
Like, there's a difference between being confident.
04:15:43.920
But confidence has to come with the action as well, the action of doing better for yourself,
04:15:50.020
having goals for yourself, accomplishing things.
04:15:52.900
Like, you can't just be delusional and be like, yeah, you know, I am happy with who I
04:15:57.060
am and I do value myself, but yet your actions don't reciprocate that.
04:16:12.580
You're supposed to be listening to me and responding.
04:16:17.180
I think you should be who you are if you're uninterested in these kinds of things.
04:16:31.860
I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody.
04:16:48.040
Jordan, Brian mentioned that women should be drafted.
04:16:53.740
Who highly disagrees that women should be drafted?
04:17:26.780
What do you think women and men should both be drafted if it came down to it?
04:17:30.500
Men and women should be drafted exactly like men.
04:17:33.400
Women should have the opportunity to get drafted if they want to be drafted.
04:17:38.060
Well, that's the point of a draft is that you don't have a choice.
04:17:47.580
I want the choice to be forced to do something.
04:17:57.400
Like, I want to choose, you know, whether or not I want to be forced to do something.
04:18:04.280
But, yeah, but then, like, I feel like everyone would choose to not be drafted and then...
04:18:24.540
I would not be able to look somebody in the eyes and shoot them.
04:18:29.920
Are you not self-confident in your ability to do hand-to-hand combat with an insurgency?
04:18:38.960
It's not everybody has to be in the front line.
04:18:41.600
If you sent a bunch of women and a bunch of men against one another...
04:19:13.020
And I'm not saying it's because men are more terrible.
04:19:16.640
It's just they are not going to sit there and...
04:19:20.460
Yeah, but if we were forced, we wouldn't have a choice.
04:19:25.580
But still, we would just have to do what we have to do to win the war.
04:19:36.900
We're supposed to seduce them and then the men come in and kill them.
04:19:46.160
I was just saying, they have the women seduce everyone and then they come and kill them.
04:19:51.220
I wonder if that would, like, be an effective message.
04:19:55.400
Well, I mean, if you can think about it, how long have men been out at war, right?
04:20:09.580
Chat, imagine you're a soldier and you're a sniper.
04:20:18.600
Are you taking the shot or are you kind of waiting a little bit?
04:20:26.300
He's going to look for a second and then that's when the other girl comes around.
04:20:39.380
Women can vote for people who would send men to the front line.
04:20:48.900
But, like, I feel like as women, we have an important role to, like...
04:20:53.740
Especially if we have kids, to, like, stay hungry with the kids.
04:20:56.080
And I think, like, if women were drafted and the men had to stay home with the kids.
04:21:02.660
I don't think that would be the most ideal situation.
04:21:07.280
I think it would be better for a woman to be home with the kids.
04:21:17.540
Because that's one of the things they used to do for the draft.
04:21:20.100
It was that they would never take, like, if they had three...
04:21:23.980
Or if they had three sons, they would not take all three.
04:21:27.560
Or if two passed, they would bring the third one home so that they didn't have to go back to the families and say,
04:21:39.320
And the higher you rate yourself on the look scale, then you're the first.
04:21:55.340
We need confident women and confident soldiers.
04:22:30.620
You don't want me with my dainty man hands going to war.
04:22:40.580
Yes, I would go first so that other woman can stay home.
04:22:45.780
And then they'd be like, thank you so much, Jordan.
04:22:53.720
No one wants me protecting the country in that way.
04:22:59.360
A lot of these male soldiers, they don't have half the confidence you have.
04:24:19.400
I think we all know I'm not meant for the military.
04:24:36.220
But I think women are better off at home with the kids than men.
04:24:56.080
We're going to send the women to war, but they can't have any guns or anything.
04:25:34.600
I'm going to have Jordan read this because I was mean to her.
04:25:56.240
I don't even know where the original question is.
04:25:59.980
Seems like that person is taking different bits and pieces about what we've discussed.
04:26:06.960
Again, with the not forming sentences correctly.
04:26:29.160
We already read it, but thank you, Craig, for the super.
04:26:31.820
The girl in red is the only realistic woman there.
04:26:34.300
If they want to mix personality with looks, then she wins, hands down.
04:26:40.720
Do any of you want to respond to the y'all are goofs insults?
04:27:15.640
You said Brian doesn't think women should wear makeup.
04:27:23.980
The world would be a better place if there was no makeup.
04:27:28.380
Is that like the pressing issue of society in the world?
04:27:42.580
Are there any pulmonologists watching the show?
04:27:54.260
I think it's a doctor with the lungs who focuses on the lungs.
04:28:12.360
I'm not going to talk about it on the show, but I got a question.
04:28:30.280
I agree that it can be used to a degree that can completely alter and change a woman's
04:28:43.240
Like I said, you can wear makeup, and it can be a soft glam.
04:28:46.780
Like, for example, when I came on the first podcast, and I took my makeup off, like, a
04:28:52.420
lot of the other girls on the panel were like, hey, there's not too much big of a difference
04:28:56.780
because I don't cake my face with, like, all of this pounds of makeup.
04:29:00.560
To be fair, the lighting in here does wonders for the women.
04:29:14.620
Our camera setup is doing a lot of favors for the women who come on this show.
04:29:20.520
To be fair, all the lighting in the world, you can't cover ugly.
04:29:24.260
So if you feel that strongly about makeup and women, when you see a woman walking down the
04:29:40.220
Because her face, that's what attracts men to women, is their face.
04:29:48.420
So you men, you men are the reason why we've had to do this.
04:29:54.620
And that's because as young girls, we see it on TV.
04:30:05.540
We don't just wake up as a, you know, wake up as a baby.
04:30:14.380
But a lot of women say, I don't wear makeup for men.
04:30:20.900
I could actually argue that like, I think a lot of other women wear makeup because other
04:30:29.420
Like I feel like, so for example, like I actually don't wear makeup.
04:30:34.920
And when I wear makeup, like I wear makeup, but typically I don't wear makeup.
04:30:39.220
Like, I mean, Liz knows, she knows me personally.
04:30:41.960
I never wear makeup, you know, but to be completely transparent, I wear makeup because I was like,
04:30:53.000
But when you were a teenager, 11 years old, 12 years old, 13 years, 14.
04:31:02.040
I think the norm would have actually been because like, I was being influenced by my friends
04:31:18.180
Okay, going back to your original argument, you were saying that women do the makeup thing
04:31:23.520
because like, men care about a woman's face, right?
04:31:31.320
Probably if you see your mother wearing makeup and things like that.
04:31:37.080
If women care about a man's career success, is he then justified in lying about his career?
04:31:44.520
So like, a guy works at McDonald's, knowing that women are attracted to successful men,
04:31:50.540
he lies on a dating app or in person and says, well, I'm a lawyer.
04:31:57.660
It would be a lot easier to keep up with your makeup every day than keeping up that you work
04:32:09.700
I don't think wearing makeup and lying about your career are the same things.
04:32:14.680
Yeah, I don't think those are really comparing.
04:32:18.020
So I actually think though that the impact that makeup will have in terms of the impact
04:32:25.320
it will have on the man being more attracted to you is more significant than a man lying
04:32:33.820
Eventually he's going to see you without makeup.
04:32:58.160
Men who are so fucking obsessed with like how much makeup women are wearing or not wearing,
04:33:07.980
Women who are obsessed with men who deceive them by lying.
04:33:43.680
Men who are obsessed with the makeup thing is...
04:33:49.960
Ryan, have you ever personally hooked up with a woman and not seen her without makeup?
04:33:54.380
Every time she puts on makeup somehow, like even after whatever, she goes and takes
04:33:59.880
a shower and she puts on makeup before you see her again?
04:34:01.800
Like, has someone done that into which you have not seen them without makeup and it's
04:34:12.260
Well, this is a difficult one because I tend to prefer women who wear minimal or no makeup.
04:34:17.040
Although I've dated women who wear makeup, but...
04:34:26.140
To answer your question, I don't think that there's a woman that I've been with where...
04:34:29.800
But again, this could come down to my general preference for women who wear minimal or no
04:34:35.240
I've not been with a woman and then she removes the makeup.
04:34:41.480
And you're able to tell that she's wearing a certain amount of makeup?
04:34:46.040
Like when you see an attractive woman and you ask her out whatever, it'll depend on if
04:34:51.660
you can tell how much makeup that she's currently wearing.
04:34:59.420
Like, do you base it off of when you see a woman and you can notice that she's wearing
04:35:07.800
Actually, I mean, if I see her on the dating app or in person, like a woman who's wearing
04:35:11.300
what in my view is too much makeup, I probably wouldn't pursue her.
04:35:15.780
But like, if she's wearing a bit of makeup, then it's okay.
04:35:28.740
But if she's attractive without it, what harm is it if she wears and is still attractive?
04:35:41.900
Actually, one of the reasons I don't like it is if she wears a bunch of shit on her face,
04:35:48.320
I don't want her shit getting on me and we're making out, and then I have acne break out
04:36:01.860
Well, if we're in bed laying down, she's not...
04:36:11.240
But if you happen to, like, an acne thing, like, okay, you know, that's understandable.
04:36:17.120
I just don't even like that shit on my skin, to be honest.
04:36:20.220
You don't put on makeup before you come into the studio?
04:36:25.240
I mean, that's legitimate, and that's a preference.
04:36:27.020
But that doesn't mean, like, all women should just, like, stop wearing makeup.
04:36:31.160
If putting on makeup gives her that little boost of confidence, and it makes her feel
04:36:36.580
good, it makes her feel pretty, then, you know, when you feel pretty, you, you know, portray
04:36:44.020
I'll actually grant you, like, all the motivations for why...
04:36:48.340
A lot of the motivations for why women wear makeup...
04:36:55.440
All the things you listed, I actually don't have any problem with that.
04:37:00.140
Cool, you want to wear makeup because you like it?
04:37:03.100
I'm more viewing it from, like, the male perspective, dating perspective.
04:37:08.360
I'm just saying, like, in a dating perspective, I don't think you can make the argument it's
04:37:17.000
But then also, all the other things I just listed.
04:37:28.040
You think a man should test a woman by taking her swimming?
04:37:31.700
I mean, like, he can also ask a woman, you know, can I see you without makeup?
04:37:40.580
If I needed someone and they wanted to see a picture of me without makeup...
04:37:45.020
Is anybody here prepared to make the argument that makeup is not deceptive?
04:37:58.240
One, as an art form, like, just, like, painting or whatever, blah, blah, blah.
04:38:03.860
One, you're insecure and you are putting on tons of makeup and contouring the fuck out
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of your face because you don't like how you look and you don't accept how you look.
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And then the other one is just using it, like you were saying, to enhance your beauty.
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Like, it just makes you feel a little bit better.
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I think there are those three different categories that I can think of.
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I think the one where you are very insecure and you're trying to cover your face is a deeper
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And I don't think that that's healthy or beautiful, honestly.
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But the art form and the enhancing your beauty, I think, are totally great.
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So, I do acknowledge that there are women who do makeup as, like, the art form or whatever.
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I think deceptive would say, I'm not wearing any makeup when you are.
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But if I'm saying, yeah, I'm wearing a tinted moisturizer and I'm wearing mascara and I'm wearing blush.
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Makeup 20 years ago to makeup now is a whole lot different.
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I don't know how to contour it in a way to make it look like I have a smaller nose.
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That person is intentionally making their nose smaller for a reason, right?
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Because 20 years ago, if I get a big nose, I get a big nose.
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If I'm covering it with makeup, that's just something different.
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Like, you could really go crazy with the makeup.
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Like, some of the transformations, like the videos that you were playing on, like, the other podcasts where a girl just literally went from, like, here to here and it's, like, night and day.
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And she's obviously trying to cover up her imperfections and her flaws.
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If you're wearing makeup, literally, just to enhance and it makes you feel a little bit better, then sure.
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If you have pale skin and you want to bring a little bit of brightness to your skin with a little bit of blush or a little bit of color on your lips, that's not deceptive.
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Is it deceptive to put oil in your hair and make it look shinier?
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Like, if I put oil on the tips of my hair, is that, like, deceiving you or is that just putting oil in my hair because it's, like, it's going to make it healthy and shiny looking?
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But apply that same logic to hair or if I, like, put fake tan on my body, is that, are you saying that that's deceptive?
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Well, then, if that's how you're, like, categorizing it, I guess, yeah.
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I actually have a bigger issue with push-up bras.
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Or, like, at what point is, like, just taking care of yourself and.
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No, I mean, like, just getting yourself, well, put together, like, doing your hair and.
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And feeling put together is a part of taking care of yourself.
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Like, I'm not going to roll out of bed and, like, just go out and, you know, I'm going to, like, take a couple of steps and take a little bit of time to, like, get myself ready for the day.
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And a little bit of makeup shouldn't take an hour, but it also could also just be a part of your getting ready routine in the morning.
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I mean, I'm not really talking about the length of time it takes to put on makeup.
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Is it kind of deceptive that deceptiveness you're talking about takes a lot of time?
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Like, a woman who's wearing full face of makeup is being more deceptive than a woman who just wears, like, mascara and a bit of blush.
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Deceptive implies ill intent, which I don't think is fair in this conversation.
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Wait, but if you deceive somebody regardless of your intent, you're still deceiving them.
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Deceiving is having ill intent by saying, like, I love just hearing all the men, like, goffing, like, guffawing over there.
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Of a person, cause someone to believe something that is not true, typically in order to gain some personal advantage.
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You can tell the women who are wearing makeup here are not.
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Wait, but don't you, women also argue, guys don't even know what the minimal makeup, like, you'll argue the same thing.
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Okay, so I'm not deceiving you because you can tell.
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Okay, so even, okay, as a guy, even if the woman is wearing makeup and you fully know that she is wearing makeup, in fact, you know every single item of makeup that she's wearing and the places where it is, we are not able, so attraction is instantaneous.
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So when we see a woman, it's not like some, some like complicated process that takes long periods of time.
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But if you're doing something using your own words to enhance your physical attractiveness, you have essentially done a deception.
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Wait, so your beard is really, is that really what your face looks like?
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If I, if I was on an island, if I was on an island, I could grow a beard.
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If you were on an island without your makeup, you wouldn't be able to wear makeup.
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Okay, but if you put like beard oil in your hair, it's like, it's not that shiny.
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These comparisons to like beard and hair, uh, one, the beard, no, the, first off the beard,
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No woman can naturally have makeup on their face.
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Like it doesn't magically materialize, manifest.
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I know I'm attacking, I know I'm attacking your, uh, what's it called?
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You're, this is a very sensitive subject for you.
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You're very, you're very defensive about the makeup.
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You're dependent on the paint to move through life.
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I don't feel like you're attacking me personally at all.
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If makeup never existed, none of us would care.
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So anyways, the reason why it's deceptive is because we look at somebody and we make
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an instant determination as to their physical attractiveness.
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Something a little catchy to get you invested in the song before you skip to a new next song
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on Spotify or you switch to a different channel on the radio, right?
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The man might be attracted to you even without the makeup, but you said it enhances.
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So if makeup didn't make you look better, would you wear it?
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Like if makeup made you look worse, would you wear makeup?
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So you are admitting that makeup makes you look more attractive than you actually are, correct?
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It's deceptive and it doesn't fucking matter at all.
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This is why men should lie about being attorneys when they work at McDonald's.
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It's completely different because if, if it's like deceptive in that way, eventually you're
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going to see it, that's off and it doesn't matter.
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And if she's like a crazy ass bitch who you don't like and who is like faking it, you're
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It's, if it's the hook, then that's just the hook.
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Like if the rest of the content is bad, then throw it out.
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And just to be clear, I'm not making the argument that like, I'm not making the argument that
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all these dudes who are dating women who wear makeup, even if it's just a little bit, they
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I would say to be charitable, probably most men who are dating a woman who wears makeup,
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those men probably would have dated them even if they didn't have the makeup, right?
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I'm not making this argument that it's like, it's making such an impact.
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Although sometimes it can be, it's making such an impact that these men are dating women
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But if we're going to have like a conversation about the topic, if we're going to exchange
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ideas, then like, and do an analysis, I don't think you can come away from it and not just
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See, see how defensive they get about the paint.
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I actually, I want to be like very honest because I actually, what you're saying goes
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in alignment with what my values are, which is like, I want a man to actually appreciate
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Like, I would rather meet the man that I'm going to spend my life with, like completely
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transparently, like on, like to be honest, if he sees me like crying with no makeup on,
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I'm going to know that like that person's going to stick with me because they, there's,
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Um, but I was actually going to bring up the topic of like, like another component of
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deception would be like, you're seeking people who are natural, but what you are probably
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also missing is that all the women that you think are natural are actually filled with
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other things that, like I, like, no Botox and filler, like their face actually isn't
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Like women, I know when, I know when women have lip filler, trust me, I just got to look
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at, I got to look at you from the side and I see your upper lips all fucked up.
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There are women that like, that know how to make themselves look extremely natural, but they
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So I'm just saying what, when you're seeking and you're like judging the lady with makeup,
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the lady with makeup is putting stuff on her face as opposed to the woman who you think
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I'm just trying to put an effort when I lie about my, I'm just trying to help you not
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I have very strong, well, I have very strong positions on plastic surgery too.
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Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no makeup on.
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You're born into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch.
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Society has told you you're not beautiful unless you're wearing this fucking mascara.
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Society has told you you're not beautiful unless you get this amount of Botox injected into
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But many of you are so accustomed, so hopelessly dependent on makeup that you will fight to
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protect it, which is why I was so viciously attacked by Pearl and by Sarah.
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Like I said, if makeup never existed, nobody would care.
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We did the TikTok of a girl who said she doesn't like makeup.
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I don't think it's good for women, and I don't think they really need to be using it, honestly.
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Makeup is, it's capitalizing on women's insecurities when it's something that they can easily fix.
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I think it takes away from a woman's natural beauty, and also, it is so bad for you.
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When you read the ingredients on a foundation bottle, what is in it?
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It's a bunch of crap that you're putting on your face.
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So, you have to keep buying more foundation to cover up what it's creating.
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Okay, so this became used as, like, a sound on TikTok.
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18,500 women have made videos using this sound.
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And if you notice, they've gone on the offensive, oh, you don't like makeup, singular woman?
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Here's me putting, like, pounds of this shit on my face as, like, a, I don't know.
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And that's not including the sentiment of, like, the women watching.
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You guys are so dependent on the makeup that you will fight to protect it.
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I can tell her hair is highlighted, so she would not highlight her hair.
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We can have a separate conversation over her being a hypocrite.
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She could be sitting there with Botox and right there.
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Okay, that's not really the point I'm trying to make.
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I do want to say, though, the people that are responding as a clapback are putting on, like, pounds of makeup.
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Look, makeup is the functional equivalent of a man working at McDonald's saying he's a lawyer.
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I personally did not know that you were taking it that personally.
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You think guys really care more about makeup than women care about money?
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Men fall in love with their eyes and women fall in love through their ears or some shit?
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Men like what they see and women like what they hear.
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Yeah, well, stop wearing makeup when you stop lying.
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Brian LeCompte, Girl in Red, shoved some reality down these face-painted girls' faces.
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We're not saying they throw up no eyebrows to eyebrows, a bigger nose to a smaller nose.
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There are more ways to be deceptive than just makeup.
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Even though it's natural, beards are kind of deceptive, too, because when they shave that
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I'll even grant you that men will grow a beard to hide a weak jaw or a weak chin.
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If you shave your beard, we'll take a haul on makeup.
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What if your girlfriend made like some sort of compromise and she's like, okay, if I
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stop wearing makeup, then you have to shave your beard?
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She can take her makeup off and I keep the beard.
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I mean, I'll eventually, maybe one of these days I will shave the beard, but I'm chilling
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If anybody, any takers, any wealthy philanthropists want to help out a brother.
04:57:56.800
So if you meet a girl and at the time that you meet, like you ask her, like you are open
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enough to ask her, like that you want to see her without makeup, can she ask you to shave
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your beard off so that neither of you is deceived?
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Well, so one, I have photos of me available without the beard.
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What if she shows you photos and you show her photos for an exchange?
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Like, where do you find the women that you date?
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Do you just find them wherever, but like they're not wearing makeup or like, do you, do you ever
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meet women and they're wearing makeup and then you just kind of wait for the opportunity?
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Like, would you go on a first date if like you first encounter?
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Well, I'm not trying to really date the girls, like the girls that come on the show.
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I mean, one or two, you know, I've been like, okay, she's not crazy.
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We do have to move it on from the, we've been on the makeup thing for a while.
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Makeup is way, even if I grant that men will grow beards because they have a weak chin or
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a weak jaw, that's still like, but like way more makeup alters your appearance way more
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Also, I've made this argument before when it comes to facial attractiveness, the top 50%
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of your face is going to matter way more than the bottom 50% of your face.
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Because during COVID, when everyone would wear masks and they would cover the bottom of their
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And then they would take it off and it's like, holy crap, like only your eyes were
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attractive, but the rest of your face, like put the mask back on.
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I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but if you look at like, okay, I think majority of women
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who do throw on makeup, it's going to be, is it going to be eye makeup?
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She might be more emphasizing the eye makeup versus.
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Are women going to wear mascara and nothing, are women going to throw on some mascara or
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Or are they more likely to throw on like, what's the stuff you put on your face?
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If they're putting on foundation, are they also going to put on eye makeup too?
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In any case, I do think the top 50% of the face is more important.
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So where did we draw the line of deceptiveness?
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But I think with dyed hair, for example, like a woman, if she has dark hair and then she
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has blonde hair and she's a white girl, a girl could look like her with blonde hair,
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But when we girls get like, we have a breakup, we change our hair because hair makes like
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I guess the difference is a girl could naturally be blonde.
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A girl could naturally be brown hair instead of black hair.
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No woman can naturally have like raccoon eyes or I don't know.
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That's probably not a popular makeup style, but like you can't naturally, like some women
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But you're not going to have natural purple hair or like pink hair, like all these crazy
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I don't think hair is as deceptive unless you're bald or something and you're hiding that you're
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I think the toupee is a more fair comparison because also I suppose, well, it's even less
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I was going to say men can dye their hair, but even that has a little social stigma.
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It's not as socially acceptable as if a woman dyes her hair.
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No, I think most women would be like, bro, you dyeing your hair?
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I think a lot of men would be like, a lot of men would clown on their male friends.
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Most women, if their female friend dyed their hair, they'd be like...
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Honest to God, my wife of five years has never seen my cheeks.
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Would you date someone who was without criminal record in the U.S. but technically an international
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Show of hands, who here would date a terrorist?
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Oh, wait, let's get through all the TikToks first.
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This is my vision for my long-term relationship.
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And he says, I pray that the woman that is for me feels like home and a vacation.
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And as someone who wants the same, I've been thinking a lot about this.
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Another creator I follow, Onami Mami, was describing how intimacy, I know, I can predict,
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I understand, we have closeness, is the killer of eroticism, which is surprise and desire.
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So how do we achieve a relationship that feels like home and a vacation?
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When they're diametrically opposed and one is actually the killer of the other?
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I certainly don't have all the answers, but my guess is that it's space.
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If you never have space from your partner, you're always with them.
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You never have the opportunity to evolve into something that may surprise them.
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It also reminds me of this beautiful poem by Khalil Gibran.
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He says, fill each other's cup, but drink not from one cup.
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Give one another of your bread, but eat not of the same loaf.
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I just think that if a relationship works, you can have both things.
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You don't, you can, they can surprise you or they can be predictable in other ways.
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And it doesn't necessarily mean one kills the other.
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Why is no one talking about how you're still settling if you meet your dream man and he doesn't want to pursue?
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It could be every single thing on your list, but if he isn't intentionally taking steps to make you his, you're settling.
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You're also confirming the belief to your own mind that you're not worth being pursued.
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If you immediately or very quickly cut that person off in and out of your life and in and out of your mind, your thought life, your thought life is so important.
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If you no longer engage with thinking about what it could be like with that dream person, you're signaling to yourself that you are worthy of the love that you imagine and therefore will more easily call it in.
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But I think that definitely there needs to, like, it's not possible for just anybody to go, to go straight to, like, oh, I'm fine.
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Like, there needs to be a grieve, like, a grieved thought process to, like, better yourself.
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And I also think that, like, when exiting a relationship, it's really important to self-analyze, like, what you could have done as well.
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Because ultimately, for your next relationship, you want to work as a team.
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Like, so definitely addressing, like, just being more self-aware of, like, what you could have done.
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I think what I meant in this TikTok was, like, I think that sometimes you might find somebody, like, a guy or something.
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And you're, like, oh, my God, he's this, and he's this, and he's this.
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But that person, if they're not interested in you, and they're not pursuing you, and, like, there's no point in thinking about them.
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It's, like, you just kind of have to cut that shit off.
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Like, can a guy be, like, well, she's my dream woman, but she isn't pursuing me.
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I would say to a man, it would be, like, oh, like, you're saying, hey, do you want to do this?
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If you're pursuing a girl, and you want to take her out, she will respond, and she'll say, let's do it.
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But, I mean, if you said this is your dream guy, you wouldn't be willing to pursue your dream guy?
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I would say that he's not your dream guy if he's not interested in you.
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And I think a lot of times, as women, it's hard to, like, we know that, but, like, it's hard in practice to be, like, oh, right.
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If he doesn't like me, that's an automatic, like, that automatically means that I shouldn't be with him.
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But I think also it's hard for men because women, a lot of the time, will string them along or make them believe, like, oh, I could possibly have a chance.
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And then they keep playing that game, and then they won't be able to realize that they don't want them because they keep playing this, like, long game and make them confused about if they're interested in them or not.
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I think we need to get away from the word dream.
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Because no person is exactly what you think they're going to be.
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Oh, I was going to say you would be my nightmare.
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I know Jordan's married, but I don't know, I don't think any other women.
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But when I first got married, I thought I had certain thoughts of how my husband was going to be or I was going to be to him.
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I quickly found out that was not the case because I'm thinking, well, I'm going to be different than these other marriages.
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That reality hit, smacked me in the face real fast.
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So before we get into everybody's dream man, dream man, you mentioned thought, and I want to actually, this question came up.
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Would you prefer to have a thought son or a thought daughter?
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I feel like that one's a little insensitive, Maddie.
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Would you rather have a thought son or a thought daughter?
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I do think that women are in more danger when it comes to, like, sexual activity.
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So if I had to pick one, I guess I would pick son.
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If they're an adult at that point, it really doesn't make a difference.
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Okay, then a guy, because it'd be more socially acceptable.
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Would you prefer a criminal son or a thought daughter?
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But, like, not anything too crazy, like cocaine.
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Your son deals cocaine or a daughter who's a slut.
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I was in the pool, and I was just like, this would be a good question to ask.
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No, this morning I woke up, I was like, I need a pulmonologist.
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Yeah, if there's anybody in the chat that's a pulmonologist, hit me up.
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Guys, guys, back to, sorry, I didn't mean to derail.
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This is why I didn't have kids, because I didn't want to deal with this.
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Criminal drug dealer's son who sells cocaine, but he's not, like, involved with, like, the
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He's, like, a low-key, you know, dealing to, like, third graders.
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Well, you said criminal, like, he's been caught, and, like, he's been convicted.
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Or are you just saying he's just a drug dealer?
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He hasn't been caught yet, but he could get caught.
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Would you prefer a drug, cocaine, drug-dealing son or a slut daughter?
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Okay, so they're criminal and slutty to the same extent.
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Chat can answer, chat, chat, wait, chat, answer two.
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When you're involved in crime, like, you could get caught and, like, go to jail and stuff.
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I feel like that's more actually, like, dangerous because it's illegal.
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If I had to choose, I would choose the daughter.
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I would choose criminal daughter because they would be more lenient to her in the justice system.
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That's where I'm going to go with that because I'm on.
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I would say daughter simply because Coke isn't just affecting his life.
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And, like, I'm going to choose their lives as well.
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I'm changing my last answer, and I'm just saying girls for both because I'm not wishing that were my kids.
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Like, full transparently, like, I've been both, and I'm good, and I'm here.
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But, like, no, no, no, uh, she sleeps with, like, she's 20, and she's fucked, like, 50 dudes.
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She's probably going to end up with someone's criminal son.
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And then, like, at least, like, 10, where it's, like, she doesn't know if to count them.
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Okay, you can't make the criminal son, like, fine and okay, and then, like, a super thotty
05:16:08.660
Well, it comes with the territory of being a criminal that it's bad.
05:16:14.300
I think we're thinking about this way too much.
05:16:16.080
If he doesn't get caught, I would choose the son.
05:16:21.060
I think the scenario has to be he doesn't get caught, but he's selling drugs to third graders.
05:16:35.280
I think I would choose that daughter, and only because what if my son sold, like, fentanyl
05:16:52.760
If we're being realistic, a lot of that stuff's, like, not clean, and, like, what if it killed
05:16:57.640
Listen, he has very high standards for the drugs he deals with.
05:17:00.420
Do you want us to, like, pick a certain way or something?
05:17:09.740
Drug dealers are also, like, in a dangerous position.
05:17:13.460
Yeah, but he's not, like, involved with the cartel.
05:17:15.920
But what, then, okay, what if he gets, like, locked up for a long time?
05:17:39.240
Yeah, I picked the son who's selling the drugs.
05:18:33.740
Like Stacey says, no such thing as dream man, but there are definitely non-negotiables, like being a Christian.
05:18:44.680
Kind, respectful, shows leadership qualities, and I have to be physically attracted to you.
05:19:02.440
Yes, believer, and someone who brings 50% to the relationship, or just as much as I do, so we're on an equal level, so that we don't have to rely on each other too much.
05:19:21.580
You did say in your show notes here that you don't agree with the younger generation thinking men have to do, slash, pay for everything.
05:19:32.800
But was your answer, did you say men should pay for the first date, though, I think?
05:19:39.780
We always talk about this, but what the whole if they ask, but like women don't really ask guys out.
05:19:49.800
But more often than not, you're asking guys out.
05:19:54.300
More often than not, obviously, men are asking them out, but I have.
05:19:58.340
Yes, women do ask men out, but it's overwhelmingly men who ask women out.
05:20:19.800
Just be on the same page with me and agree in a lot of ways.
05:21:07.080
Yeah, but if he's your dream guy, you got to go for it.
05:21:36.640
He doesn't, like, need to be, like, making X amount, but as long as he, like, goes to work and is a provider, a leader, has to have masculinity, and respectful, trustworthy, family man, for sure.
05:21:54.540
Were you friends when you were dating the other guy, the Japan guy?
05:22:03.540
No, I've known him, but when I'm in a relationship, I cut all guys out, so.
05:22:07.440
But how long have you known he's your dream guy?
05:22:10.200
Yeah, because I was before the relationship, and now I'm close to him again, because I'm not in the relationship.
05:22:15.140
How long have you known he was your dream guy, though?
05:22:22.220
You kind of have to get to know somebody for real to know they're your dream guy.
05:22:59.220
If I gave you a buck fifty, would you let me have one?
05:23:14.900
I was just going to describe my boyfriend anyway.
05:23:23.180
Well, I was going to describe my boyfriend, too.
05:23:34.000
I don't, like, that's not a requirement for me, and believe it or not, I am more into personality
05:24:38.600
I should make it, like, some sort of, like, AI image describing.
05:24:50.700
Have you guys ever done the test thing where you can put in and find out the percentage
05:24:55.740
of, like, if you'll find your dream person, you go through all those questions,
05:25:13.820
I'll date any height, but dream girl, I don't know.
05:25:23.000
Well, this is your dream, so you make her whatever you want.
05:25:25.900
Okay, so it's hard, though, because for kids, having kids, tall's better.
05:25:32.340
Like, if she's tall, that's better for, like, the kids.
05:25:35.500
Because you want to, like, have warrior children.
05:26:11.880
Tall, better for the kids, but, like, personal preference in terms of what I think is most attractive.
05:26:31.520
Even though you're really hot, your brows are fake AF, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9 for Morgan.
05:26:53.700
Because it was going in order, so I got the four.
05:26:57.080
And so I did today, I bought something for the first time.
05:27:00.420
I bought, like, the eyebrow stuff you put on, because mine are so blonde.
05:27:42.680
My dream girl would have the biggest labia in the world.
05:27:48.240
Like, it's not that I just want a girl with an Audi.
05:27:51.520
Like, I want, like, a Guinness World Record holder.
05:28:08.920
Well, first I need to ask, are you, do you support my cause?
05:28:14.240
Because I don't want to talk about this with somebody who isn't part of the BLM movement.
05:28:26.500
Like, I, I've been on the search for, I've been on the search.
05:28:30.980
Like, I will only date a girl with a big labia.
05:28:35.160
I, I did have a question that I thought of that I wanted to bring up.
05:28:51.540
Yeah, like, would you know that her labia is big just by talking to her?
05:28:55.120
You were to, like, pick one of us out who gives big.
05:29:01.820
Are you asking me, like, pick out who has a big labia?
05:29:10.960
No, no, please don't guess who actually has a big labia.
05:29:25.020
I don't think we should shame, we shouldn't shame women if they have a big labia.
05:29:37.060
Because you know I don't like when you shame women.
05:29:39.020
So honestly, when it comes to the big labia energy here at the table, and it doesn't mean
05:29:44.820
you have a big labia, you could be rocking like the outie, the inniest innie, and have
05:29:54.060
You two have big labia, like the most big labia energy.
05:30:05.000
Like, actually, I mean, it's a given Maddie has it, but like, she already knows.
05:30:50.540
First off, please don't be shaming ladies if they got a large labia, okay?
05:30:58.060
And if Pearl does have a wizard sleeve, there will be a guy who will love it.
05:31:38.160
If women don't need men, then would you, as women, support the infrastructure because
05:31:46.020
We can get to that, but I kind of need to talk a little more about big lady.
05:31:53.780
Look, I'm just saying, I'm looking for the Guinness World Record holder for largest lady.
05:32:01.320
He's like wanting to put her in like a competition.
05:32:18.600
That would probably be the Guinness World Record.
05:32:22.860
I think it's just like how women are like, I want a really big, you know what?
05:32:58.580
I want to know if you've ever like been shamed for it by a guy.
05:33:14.720
I've been shamed for things, but I'm not going to specify what exactly, but I've been shamed
05:33:28.500
Okay, if I'm being like totally honest, I don't really exactly know what a labia is.
05:33:43.100
So the inner lips that hang down, not the outer lips, but the inner lips that hang down.
05:33:54.860
No, I told her what it was and she said, ew, ew.
05:34:17.360
She's like calling me out and it's like not okay.
05:34:19.600
You told me I could say it loud on the mic and then...
05:34:35.980
Look, I'm just saying I only date women like that.
05:34:39.620
Okay, would you say it's deceptive for women to wear pants?
05:35:00.680
He doesn't want them wearing no pants everywhere they go.
05:35:08.680
If you have this big requirement for the Guinness World Record, what is that?
05:35:21.160
You gotta make her put on the tight Burkini and you'll figure it out.
05:35:35.700
Okay, but I have to know, like, how did this fetish start?
05:35:44.700
Do women who like big dicks, does that mean they have a fetish?
05:36:08.400
I think the Celsius is, like, finally hitting hours later.
05:36:58.240
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05:37:09.500
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05:37:29.540
Can you answer the question of how this obsession originated for you?
05:37:34.260
I think he's just advocating for all women, honestly.
05:37:45.380
Either he saw it in a video or he saw it on someone.
05:38:06.360
I'm not even, like, saying that you shouldn't like it.
05:38:21.800
Don't be upset at my various terms used to describe the cooter bacon, you freak.
05:38:37.900
I'll tell you after the show if you're really that...
05:38:48.900
Did you just see it on a girl, and you thought, like, oh, I like that.
05:38:54.740
I don't know if this is going to make logical sense, but, like, so a woman...
05:38:58.860
And don't get me wrong, like, any pussy's still good pussy, right?
05:39:19.860
Brixen, every week I say you can't find one more Delulu than the last, and then you find
05:39:46.100
I don't know if this is going to make sense, but, like, if a girl has, like, full-on super
05:40:24.900
No, but, like, so it's kind of a visual, it's a visual thing, which leads me into my next
05:40:32.060
thing, so there's this, like, okay, lips that grip.
05:40:43.120
And for some, I just, that, that visually is, like, because if she's got an innie, I
05:40:56.540
If she's got an innie, the penis just disappears.
05:41:01.860
But if she's got an outie, there's still the pussy, the pussy's still there.
05:41:13.380
It's kind of, this sounds ridiculous, but it makes sense to me.
05:41:33.300
I don't understand what you mean by it just disappears.
05:42:51.920
It doesn't do anything for me in the same way that like big labia does.
05:43:02.940
Is this too sensitive for your virgin ears, Jordan?
05:43:09.060
I think half the panel here is just ready to move on.
05:43:32.000
I literally, I miss, I truly miss the person I used to be before this conversation.
05:43:43.680
You did a very good, you did very good explaining, by the way.
05:44:00.960
Even just saying that word, like, gives me like the heebie-jeebies.
05:45:06.120
That's just how you say hello when you're Asian.
05:45:10.760
Yeah, but like I would expect this from a white girl.
05:45:18.860
I mean, her eyes are a little crazy, but I can get.
05:45:24.460
You should definitely be with an Asian woman then.
05:45:39.660
I wouldn't bow to someone if it wasn't cultural.
05:45:45.220
So yeah, like when I greet my grandparents, I do that.
05:46:33.300
So he's not your dream man just because he wants you to bow?
05:46:38.940
What about your man now that you have, if he wanted you to bow?
05:46:52.880
You'd be fine if he paid $10 on a wedding ring?
05:46:56.040
I wouldn't be fine with $10, but I don't know how much I would want him to spend.
05:47:05.800
I think that he can spend the amount of money that he wants to spend on a wedding ring because
05:47:18.160
So whatever he thinks, I want to be with someone financially responsible.
05:47:25.480
So the person who is both of those things can spend however much money they want to spend
05:47:30.000
And you would want a guy to get down on one knee to propose to you?
05:47:41.700
So you want a guy to kneel, look up at you, kneel, but you won't bow for that man?
05:47:51.040
Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
05:47:57.760
That checks out with your whole psyche and the whole podcast and everything.
05:48:21.200
All you see is dollar signs and your Delulu dissonance.
05:48:27.980
You're the one who's spending money to talk to me.
05:48:38.300
We're not going to end the show, but to end the show.
05:48:43.680
Unless my grandparents were here, I would do a bow for them.
05:48:55.340
Are you going to financially support me with this adoption?
05:49:07.280
I was just going to ask, you know how you keep saying about how people are donating to
05:49:16.180
And they feel entertained and they pay for the music because they want to because they're
05:49:20.960
I feel like that's the same thing as people donating to Brian.
05:49:25.360
I mean, this is, I mean, I totally get the business model.
05:49:27.620
I totally get why it's profitable and I respect it, even though I don't think it's doing like
05:49:32.000
that much good in the world, like legacy wise, like you could do whatever you want.
05:49:46.780
I personally just wouldn't do this kind of work, like the work that you're doing, like
05:49:50.740
creating more of a gender divide between men and women.
05:49:53.180
Well, I personally wouldn't be a 32 year old pursuing a music career, but I mean.
05:50:02.620
Oh, I think it's just like the insults, like that part of it that I'm like, you're literally
05:50:06.580
paying money to insult someone, not, not to contribute to the business.
05:50:12.920
But to tell someone I rated you as a five and now you're down to two, it's like that.
05:50:22.680
And, oh, queen, you should, if a guy doesn't want to pay for the first date, then, oh,
05:50:29.160
didn't know that you just wanted to be friends.
05:50:33.580
I didn't know that it was going to be this like crazy thing that created this gender divide.
05:50:38.080
I could have easily capitalized on that and created more and more TikToks into the same
05:50:42.680
But I was like, that's actually not within my value system to continue doing that.
05:50:46.600
I didn't know that it was going to be this big thing and I decided to not go down that
05:50:52.180
lane, actually, because I don't want to be a part of it.
05:50:56.400
Yeah, but it's not on purpose to be controversial for profit.
05:50:59.640
I don't know TikTok too well, but can you take a video down?
05:51:03.780
Well, if you disagree with it after the fact now, why don't you take it down?
05:51:06.640
I don't disagree with it, but people are getting in like conversations in it for sure.
05:51:12.040
Also, a little bit on your point, there's been news articles that have posted her video,
05:51:16.560
so even if she did delete it, there's still these articles out there that she can't delete.
05:51:22.520
And I've also created follow-up videos and stuff, and if people really want to get into
05:51:27.000
a deep dive of what I actually think, they'll know, but no one really does.
05:51:30.380
They just see the initial video, and that's not really my...
05:51:33.220
I'm not going to police what people do on my thing.
05:51:36.960
It's just people having that same mindset, and even if they watch a video, it's not going
05:51:40.840
to change their mindset, even if they agree or disagree with it.
05:51:43.180
Yeah, but I'm not going to capitalize on it just for profit, you know what I'm saying,
05:51:48.960
But have you made money off TikTok, if you don't mind me asking?
05:51:55.540
She said she doesn't profit off of the ideas or the things that she's posted, but she has
05:52:01.320
No, I'm not going to continue to create things that I don't actually believe in or that I
05:52:09.300
Do you think that video contributed to the gender divide?
05:52:13.140
Do you think that that video contributed to the gender divide?
05:52:15.680
I am the number one contributor to the genders coming together and liking each other more.
05:52:23.240
That's why he thinks we should all be drafted and...
05:52:28.780
I have testimonials from people who watch the show.
05:52:31.960
So, my relationship with my girlfriend has gotten way...
05:52:42.120
Hey, Delulu, kneeling during a proposal is not an Asian tradition.
05:52:54.580
There's something from Jim we had to go back to.
05:53:06.900
Brickson, every week I say you can't find one more Delulu than the last and then you find
05:53:22.060
It just makes me happy that people on this show don't like me.
05:53:31.100
I like when people who I misalign with dislike me.
05:53:41.280
Even if I disagree with people on panel, I very rarely dislike people.
05:53:46.660
Yeah, I think disagree is very different from dislike.
05:53:49.900
No matter what the comments that they say, you never know if they...
05:53:53.520
They don't know you, so they don't actually dislike you.
05:53:55.440
I think they just disagree and they want to comment about it.
05:53:59.440
Wait, speaking of rude and disliking, you had this crazy person on your podcast a week or
05:54:14.180
Plane crashes in a swamp and everyone on plane dies except you.
05:54:18.280
Rather run across random man or alligator in the swamp.
05:54:21.860
BTW still have PTSD from seeing ex without makeup.
05:54:30.280
I had to do about six months after my girlfriend took a makeup wipe to her face.
05:55:25.540
Okay, the only reason is because I saw a TikTok of, like, this guy asking, like, a bunch of
05:55:30.980
dads if they would rather their daughter run into an alligator or a bear or a man.
05:55:41.260
And they're, like, thinking of, like, the safety of their daughter, right, first initially.
05:55:45.660
So I'm like, okay, there has to be a reason for that.
05:55:47.540
Because in my opinion, guys, like, think ahead for those kind of decisions.
05:56:04.000
Because it was, like, literally a handful of dads.
05:56:14.600
Well, you just crashed on a plane and everybody else passed away.
05:56:32.780
Walking Roscoe underscore on underscore YouTube donated $77.77.
05:56:45.080
You have an infectious laugh, fanning your face with your hand.
05:56:52.400
Check the bowling clip on you to see if I make you smile.
05:57:13.480
Just imagine you actually create a couple through this podcast.
05:57:21.920
I respect their privacy, but a lot of girls who've come on the show, and we've had some
05:57:26.640
guys come on the show, met people through the show.
05:57:31.900
Like, there's a guy who's been on the show who's now dating a girl who's been on the
05:57:46.720
And a lot of girls will be like in relationships, and they'll be like, yeah, some guy DM'd me
05:57:54.780
I know you said no simps, but I just wanted to say thank you for the sweet comment.
05:58:13.600
I just want a girl who can be a slave that I can just bring to Hawaii.
05:58:24.160
If that made you happy, you're going to be forking ecstatic then, girl.
05:58:28.960
Selling your demo tape alone in your 30s is only going to bring you sadness, so hopefully
05:58:41.640
Look, you're getting some love from Pearl there.
05:59:13.440
So, all I'm trying to say is, all I'm trying to say as far as what I want, I just want
05:59:20.100
a girl who I can take on a trip with me the whole night.
05:59:38.820
I'm looking for a woman who knows how to quilt and churn butter.
05:59:44.900
I guess my DMs are open if you know how to churn, but they wouldn't have a phone,
05:59:50.500
I'm going to have to roll up to the fucking farm.
06:00:05.200
Let's get through all the notes here so we can hopefully wrap this up soon.
06:00:21.000
You said, don't agree with the current feminism.
06:00:22.680
Making females out to be weak, and men are the enemy.
06:00:26.880
Do you want to expand a bit on the feminism, making females out to be weak, and men are
06:00:32.580
Well, I've heard on a lot of the podcasts before that it's the idea going along with
06:00:39.260
how men need to pay for everything, or the men...
06:00:51.440
But the whole of men should be honored to be with me, and the whole thing, I don't
06:00:55.680
feel that that does any kind of a benefit for you, for women who think that way.
06:01:08.120
If they can pay, they can hold everything on their own.
06:01:10.880
And I don't feel that I need a man to do any of that, and that's where I'm going with that.
06:01:16.500
So, I don't know if I answered your question, because he's more concerned with the baby.
06:01:35.140
Like, I mean, I don't think I'll ever be in a situation where I'm not making money.
06:01:39.680
Like, I'm not adding value into the world and being compensated financially.
06:01:44.920
And it's, like, I think super important for women to build their own wealth, to understand,
06:01:49.520
like, to have financial literacy, to understand how to invest, to, like, have control over their
06:01:55.160
finances, and, yeah, to, like, feel the power of doing that.
06:02:00.080
I really think that that's important for women to do and also available for us to do.
06:02:04.480
And at the same time, I think that at least, you know, like, when I'm with men, I like a man
06:02:10.980
who's generous, and I like a man who's ambitious and wants to treat his woman as well.
06:02:15.280
It doesn't mean that I never do anything for him either.
06:02:17.440
I definitely want to spoil my man just like he spoils me.
06:02:20.840
Um, but, uh, yeah, and I think that we're in an age where we can, like, we went to the
06:02:29.820
moon before women had, were able to get credit cards in their own name.
06:02:33.300
So, like, I, I think that it's a really powerful experience for women to have their own money.
06:02:41.180
Would you be comfortable if, when you have children, that your man doesn't want you to
06:02:44.960
work anymore and you just solely depend on him?
06:02:47.040
Um, doesn't want me to work, like, is it for my own ease and comfort?
06:02:54.960
Yeah, like, I, I think that one of the reasons why I do want a man, like, who's ambitious
06:02:59.880
and, like, kind of who has some amount of wealth is because I do want to be a mom and
06:03:05.080
I want to be able to not work if I'm impregnated and, like, birthing and, like, taking care
06:03:12.500
of the children, like, yeah, I think that that's, that's something that I would like.
06:03:17.280
Well, but I would think you would have that conversation before you got pregnant.
06:03:21.400
I mean, that's something, that's, like, an early conversation.
06:03:23.500
Right, I would think in your discussion of dating the guy that this kind of thing would
06:03:32.300
For me, I mean, again, I'm 32, so I'm in, like, a, I'm finding my life partner, like,
06:03:37.500
like, vibe, so I definitely don't disagree with what you're saying, and I also don't
06:03:49.480
Do you think that should apply to even, like, women in very traditional relationships that
06:03:55.940
Like, do you think they should have their own money also?
06:03:58.820
Um, I think that, no, people can do whatever they want.
06:04:01.880
If that works for them and they feel like they're completely free and their man has their
06:04:05.660
best interest in mind and what that best interest is for them to live a traditional life, then
06:04:12.360
I would, like, you know, just, like, ask and, like, worry, I guess, if my friends were
06:04:17.620
in a situation where they felt, like, controlled or something like that, but that's not about
06:04:22.860
That's about, like, just the situation, you know?
06:04:26.560
So, I think the language of, like, controlling isn't helpful.
06:04:33.640
But, you know, people can do whatever they want.
06:04:42.600
Yeah, I think if, for me, I'm, like, I always need to have my own money because if I'm ever
06:04:46.960
in a situation that's, like, abusive or anything, like, I'm leaving.
06:05:04.240
Actually, really quick, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
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Drop us a follow and a Prime sub if you have one.
06:05:09.560
Guys, it's been two minutes since we last had a Prime, but it's probably been re-bugged since then.
06:05:17.040
If you're watching on YouTube, drop us a follow and a Prime sub.
06:05:23.640
Discord.gg slash whatever drops a join the server.
06:05:28.700
Over there on the Discord, we post behind-the-scenes stuff.
06:05:31.400
Got the wall of whatever, wall of haters, all kinds of stuff that's Discord only.
06:05:36.980
Getting into kind of some of the, hopefully, the last notes here.
06:05:48.800
Disagree with the topic of making women out to feel bad for wearing makeup.
06:05:53.380
But we already, I don't know if you weighed in much on it, but.
06:06:00.880
You also disagree with having women rate each other.
06:06:14.740
I think the one time that has actually happened, she actually volunteered to do it.
06:06:22.540
I remember watching one particular one, and you were on with, it was some, and I don't
06:06:26.880
know her name, but she was the girl who used to be in adult films, blonde, large busted.
06:06:32.920
And it was the one, and you were on with her, on her, for a good half an hour about trying
06:06:40.100
to get her to rate other women, and she just wouldn't do it, the other women in the
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And so, I, yeah, I just don't like that because I think that that, it puts women against each
06:07:23.620
Women can now have credit cards, and it only took them 50 years to rack up 1.14 trillion
06:07:47.700
Now, this really complicates the whole men should pay thing.
06:07:51.420
So, how do you reconcile being a feminist, but wanting men to pay for first dates?
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Like, there's, like, hard of all these versions.
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I'm, like, I don't think I'm all the way over here.
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But, like, I wouldn't say, I, I, I'm a feminist in the sense that I don't think that the patriarchy was working and we needed, uh, something to correct that, which was to let women make money, give women, like, equal opportunity in the workforce, like, let them be able to, like, have mortgages on homes, like, let them be in whatever kind of, you know, uh, occupation that they personally want to do.
06:09:02.040
So, like, I think that in that sense, I'm a feminist.
06:09:06.400
Um, I'm not a feminist in the sense that I think that men and women are the same and they should do all of the exact same things.
06:09:13.000
I think that masculine and feminine energy exist in both people and I personally, um, it's, like, it's, like, the yin-yang thing.
06:09:21.720
I think women, like, just hormonally, like, our hormones are much different than male hormones and, like, we're built for different things.
06:09:29.080
Women are naturally a little bit typically more nurturing.
06:09:32.100
Like, we thrive in different kinds of work environments.
06:09:35.760
So, I don't think that that has to do with, like, what I would want on a first date because I think a first date is a first impression and that, man, I would like to be someone who's generous, who wants to take care of his woman.
06:09:49.080
And I think that those two things can coexist in one person.
06:09:51.500
You don't have to be all one thing and all one other thing.
06:09:54.900
You can be a multitude of things in one person.
06:09:57.020
Well, so you're talking about the feminist buffet where you pick and choose the equality which benefits you.
06:10:08.200
I mean, all these things are kind of intertwined.
06:10:12.800
Can you put the water bottle on the ground or pour it into a cup, por favor?
06:10:18.540
So, that was very submissive of you, by the way.
06:10:21.480
You didn't even, like, you see how she just did it?
06:10:34.120
Like, do you think a world where, for example, you said women should be allowed to work, right?
06:10:40.760
Well, I mean, if you double the labor pool, are men less capable of providing for women because of this action?
06:10:53.680
To the same extent to which they did before, yeah.
06:10:58.560
But you're still desirous of a man to provide for you.
06:11:04.180
Yeah, but you still want a guy to provide for you throughout the relationship and even into the relationship.
06:11:09.380
I think if I'm having his children, then I think the expectation is that housing and food would be provided for me and my children for sure.
06:11:23.340
And I'm going to pick a man who is capable and able to do that.
06:11:27.480
On one hand, you want a man to provide for you in the same capacity that he would.
06:11:35.660
In the same capacity that he would provide for you if it was the 1950s.
06:11:42.380
You just said pay for the rent and pay for the food.
06:11:52.160
Yeah, but in the 1950s, I'm still, like I was talking, you weren't even here.
06:11:56.180
Like wealth creation, wealth creation for me is still very important.
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I'm always going to be making money and always going to have my own money and going to increase
06:12:06.320
I for sure am going to be acting in those ways, which is very different.
06:12:10.680
But we're talking, we're not talking about you.
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I'm saying that I will still contribute financially to the marriage partnership.
06:12:25.560
Listen, I'm going to do all the details within my own relationship.
06:12:29.000
I don't think I, and I also don't know because I'm not married and I don't have his babies
06:12:33.260
right now, but I'm just saying I will make money and I don't expect for like my man to,
06:12:39.580
I guess, take care of like every single thing and for me to not have any money at all.
06:12:45.100
So your expectation of men is for them to operate as if they were in the 1950s.
06:12:53.020
I have my own preference for what I want my man to do.
06:12:59.280
It's hard to be like financially in a place where you can provide completely with no help
06:13:11.720
I think when I'm in a marriage relationship, I think, yeah, I personally want when I have
06:13:21.800
So men pay for everything and you pay for yourself?
06:13:27.060
She ain't, chill out, you not so pretty little liar.
06:13:36.480
Wait, so you said you do want a guy to be that provider.
06:13:43.220
I think when I'm in a relationship and I give birth to his children, it's totally fair for
06:13:51.340
him to provide us a place to stay and for food to eat.
06:13:54.940
I will also be making my own money and contributing in ways that I can for the rest of my life because
06:14:03.720
that's something that I want to do and something that I have the capabilities to do and that
06:14:15.160
Can we have everybody but Pearl do a fit check?
06:14:18.240
I don't care to hear another thing from her tonight.
06:14:43.100
I don't need you to understand my perspective because we are not going to be in a couple.
06:14:47.880
I've said what I think pretty much like four times in a row.
06:15:06.400
So you want a guy to, you just said rent and food, but come on, you're going to want
06:15:19.860
So just to be clear, you're going to pay for health insurance.
06:15:26.720
Are you, so then do you want the man to pay for the utilities and the childcare and the
06:15:34.580
Do you want him to pay and the health insurance?
06:15:45.320
But why can you make the determination when it comes to rent and food?
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Just because I think that those are pretty basic qualities.
06:15:53.640
Yeah, but I think like rent and food is like a good one to be like, I do kind of, I'm being
06:15:57.380
honest and saying like, I do kind of expect my man to provide at least that while I am
06:16:03.180
Do I expect him to provide rent and food for me now?
06:16:08.040
But if I'm literally giving birth to his children, yeah, those are like my basic expectations.
06:16:14.180
Everything else I think we'll have to work out.
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Like, but I'm not, I'm not like, oh, you provide 100% of everything and I stay home
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But he provide 100% of everything and you continue to be a boss babe.
06:16:42.300
Are you going to stay home and take care of the kids or are you going to want like a babysitter?
06:16:54.360
I don't know exactly how everything is going to be split up when I'm in my relationship.
06:17:04.840
When the kids are young, do you want to stay at home and take care of them?
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Or do you want to be out working and have somebody paying for childcare?
06:17:16.480
Like, I'll probably have some help, but also like work as well.
06:17:31.940
Because I think that's a full-time job to take care of children.
06:17:35.240
And I don't ever see myself like not working in some capacity.
06:17:39.260
I'll probably take a break at like for a while.
06:17:46.660
What about five years until they're in kindergarten?
06:17:49.800
I think it'll be whatever works best for a family.
06:17:56.360
Okay, so like maybe six, seven years before both of them are in elementary school.
06:18:05.240
Well, isn't it start at five years old, kindergarten?
06:18:17.100
I don't know how it's going to be split up, like I've said already.
06:18:23.220
Are you trying to make me say some things, like some specific things?
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I'm just trying to understand your perspective.
06:18:29.120
So what you want is you don't want to stay at home with kids.
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So even before they get into like kindergarten, you will want.
06:18:48.600
Please, for the love of God, someone tell Pearl to stop stroking her hair.
06:18:53.800
It came already and the tip is ultra sensitive.
06:19:00.160
Her future will only have cats, no men or kids.
06:19:14.440
The Stifler asks everyone to rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10.
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The scouter does not detect any 10s at the table.
06:19:52.700
All right, Pearl, now that we've established you're a gold digger, I want to take this time
06:20:19.420
Getting through the notes here, Pearl, you said you're a positive influence, parentheses
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It means someone who speaks multiple languages.
06:20:47.900
When you messaged us, you were like, I have some thoughts, lol.
06:20:59.240
You said some men are emotionally attracted to other men, but sexually attracted to women
06:21:15.040
You said equality is not sameness, it's fairness.
06:21:18.160
The sexy and fair thing to do is for the man to pick up the tab.
06:21:38.100
I mean, that's literally what my whole video was about that went viral.
06:21:41.060
I think when people say they want equality, they really need to specify what they mean
06:21:44.840
Like, there's a quality of opportunity and a quality of outcome.
06:21:53.540
We need to get through Pei's notes, then we'll try to, I think, wait, Drea?
06:22:19.000
I'm anti-feminist, meaning I just don't believe in any of the today's age feminism or anything
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And also, I don't think really any woman can be completely traditional in today's age.
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Just with the internet and everything, it's just not possible to be completely traditional.
06:22:40.040
You also said, do you not want to talk about the relationship history stuff?
06:22:48.360
Oh, it was just that one relationship that I said that I was in.
06:22:54.400
You said there are a few things I disagree with the host on?
06:22:58.940
Well, I've gotten to hear you out more, and I don't know if there's many things that I disagree with.
06:23:03.100
There is one thing you said, you think it's just as hard for women to date as it is for men
06:23:12.000
His opinion on the difficulties of average men and women when it comes to dating or standards,
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men and women of average salaries, looks, height, age, weight, occupation, et cetera.
06:23:21.640
I don't know if we, did we get a chance to talk about that last time or no?
06:23:27.140
So going around the table, I want to open up to the whole panel.
06:23:29.160
I know you guys, we're in the, we're in the, what's that saying?
06:23:43.440
Wake yourselves up because we're about to get into some last minute nitty gritty.
06:23:48.500
Do you guys think, who has it easier when it comes to dating?
06:24:12.660
I used to think it was harder for women, but I actually think it's equal.
06:24:21.840
Personally, I think it's harder for women, but generally I think equal.
06:24:45.180
I think initially it's easier for women, but equal later on in life.
06:24:52.380
Like, I get what you mean by it's obviously hard for average women, but I think if we're
06:24:57.820
comparing the average woman to the average man, the man still might have it a little bit
06:25:11.280
So why do you, wait, yours is its equal or is it harder for women?
06:25:17.700
But I think, did you say it can be harder for women?
06:25:28.340
I mean, like, so in what ways are you struggling?
06:25:34.160
I've found it difficult because you either get rejected or you find someone that isn't
06:25:51.180
I did, but that was just, I was telling, actually, I was saying earlier about one experience that
06:25:58.980
I had on Tinder is where I was talking to a guy and it seemed like it was going well
06:26:08.820
We were supposed to go out to dinner and I went in the car with him and he drove deep into
06:26:12.880
the woods at night and said that he wanted to take pictures of me in the woods.
06:26:20.400
And I was like, I was like, okay, this, this is, the state is over and we're never speaking
06:26:27.920
And also I told, I had him, I was like, okay, this is getting weird.
06:26:32.940
So he drove me back to my house and I forgot my like women's leather jacket in his car.
06:26:40.680
And I tried to message him to say that I forgot it in his car just to get my jacket back.
06:26:47.260
Do you think it's easier for you to meet people online or organically?
06:27:00.300
I think online because you don't know the person, it can, anything, they can be anything like
06:27:07.260
they can be totally different than their profile says or how they look or, or anything.
06:27:11.800
And so I feel like in person, when you meet someone and you ask them out, you can kind
06:27:15.880
of get a sense of who they are by seeing them in person.
06:27:21.000
But I feel like people don't know how to have organic conversations nowadays because we have
06:27:27.040
So I think it goes actually in the other direction.
06:27:30.240
I think it's easier online because you bypass all of the initials.
06:27:34.800
Like you can pretty much figure out everything you want to know about them.
06:27:39.860
I mean, if they're telling you the truth before actually seeing them.
06:27:43.000
So you're not actually doing much of the scouting.
06:27:46.380
That's why I, why I think it is difficult though, because a lot of people will use their
06:27:50.760
online persona to make you think that they're a certain way.
06:27:56.500
And then they're actually completely different and they just use the internet to kind, kind
06:28:14.800
That's the thing too, is I don't think I'm a very picky person.
06:28:19.740
I have a very realistic idea of what I would like.
06:28:23.720
And I don't know, I just, just hasn't worked out for me.
06:28:28.260
I think it's because you need to be more obsessed with yourself.
06:28:42.240
I just feel like if you saw yourself like that, like, I don't know, I guess I can only
06:28:47.020
Like that kind of energy where you're like, wow, like I'm, I'm really cool.
06:28:54.600
I feel like, like you don't have to pursue a man.
06:28:57.320
Like when you really like think of yourself highly, like you really do magnetize the right
06:29:02.760
men into your life and you won't really even attract men who want to take you into the
06:29:06.720
woods and take pictures of you, which is fricking crazy.
06:29:09.220
And honestly, like, I know that people on this podcast are going to disagree, but if you rate
06:29:13.760
yourself, if you really see yourself as a five, like you're going to attract people in your
06:29:18.580
Like, I feel like if you really focus on being that bitch, which you are, you're so special.
06:29:26.120
And like, you're really, you really have a unique personality that I think someone's
06:29:29.840
really, really going to love and who's looking for someone exactly like you.
06:29:36.020
Like you can just focus on yourself, be who, be who you are, love who you are.
06:29:40.800
And like the right men are going to come and find you.
06:29:44.920
And that's very sweet, but I just feel like that's unrealistic.
06:29:48.820
Like I have a good sense of self in a way that I know who I am, but I don't think of
06:29:56.940
And like how you guys were saying earlier, oh, when you think of yourself in, you know,
06:30:05.620
Like, but I work out, I take care of myself and everything, but I just feel like I'm just
06:30:10.000
more realistic about if I had like, you know, all the guys that I've asked out say what
06:30:22.840
You are able to take an objective stance without getting into fairytale land.
06:30:30.200
And I think a lot of the other women would agree.
06:30:34.460
So I don't think you lack the confidence whatsoever.
06:30:44.400
So I wouldn't, I wouldn't pick up this, like, no offense, but like, I wouldn't pick up this
06:30:49.520
unauthentic pride because I personally like think that pride is one of the most like unattractive
06:30:58.860
And that's just because I want to attract somebody who's extremely humble and doesn't
06:31:03.000
have to explain to people how special they are.
06:31:06.020
And I think that that quality in you, you speak volumes to so many, it already has like
06:31:11.340
literally you're getting so hyped on, like every man on here for just being you for literally
06:31:37.860
I had to go potty and then you guys asked me to come back.
06:31:40.560
So I was like, everybody here is a 10 because I had to be so bad.
06:31:50.280
When, when people who truly know me and I don't want to take away from this.
06:31:54.200
I want to like actually, because she like, she deserves to like have her word.
06:31:58.960
But people who know me personally know that I hold myself to a very high standard, which
06:32:10.560
For the whole panel, how often do you receive honest opinions from men about anything that
06:32:16.700
are neither related to you nor want to have a romantic slash carnal relationship with you?
06:32:23.140
Anybody, takers, any takers, quick answer on this?
06:32:29.660
Yeah, I listen to honest opinions of men and I do take them seriously and they have nothing
06:32:36.520
Hold on, but I got to go back to this pride thing.
06:32:48.680
Like, are you shaking your head like you don't want to talk about it?
06:32:56.800
Well, it actually wasted so much time because you kept bringing it up and I was like, I'm
06:33:04.960
I wouldn't have said anything had you not just said you were a 10.
06:33:14.580
I swear, I, I, I'm not, I promise you I'm not like, I am one of the most like, um, I'm
06:33:27.700
So like, because I, I hold myself to a high standard, like I do really, but even when
06:33:34.680
you came back to the table, when I like double checked, I'm pretty sure you still said you
06:33:43.460
Pearl, having four older sisters, I at times cringe at many of the comments viewers send
06:33:49.880
Brian tries to point out that women need to be more realistic, but sadly it brings out the
06:34:03.340
Which is why I think it's sad because this, yeah.
06:34:07.500
I mean, we definitely don't want to slap the word confident over something that's clearly
06:34:13.560
that, you know, you could value yourself without being like overly obsessed and think you
06:34:19.240
are like, isn't it, isn't it just like vanity and narcissism?
06:34:24.840
I feel like vanity and narcissism is a covert way of saying insecure.
06:34:33.980
Well, I think vanity is a way of saying vanity and narcissism is a way of saying narcissism.
06:34:51.380
I remember her saying we're all a 10, but I don't remember what she said after that.
06:34:56.560
It came from, it did not come from her thinking that she's hot shit.
06:35:02.760
Because the way that she has portrayed herself through this entire panel this whole time,
06:35:07.420
none of it has been of her thinking that she's the hottest thing here.
06:35:23.620
She's come off pretty realistic, I'm not going to lie.
06:35:27.860
No, you said 10, and I could have sworn there was some back and forth where it wasn't
06:35:35.900
No, I also, but I also did mention, I just did not want to, like, I was not comfortable
06:35:50.640
She gave a very long answer, but I don't think she gave a number.
06:35:58.020
And so I was like, okay, everybody here is a 10.
06:36:01.040
And so I still got, I still kind of, so including you, Nick, pull up really quick for going
06:36:08.540
back to her thing on dating easier for men or women.
06:36:16.420
And can I say one other, and we'll do it for Pearl too.
06:36:19.580
One other comment is, um, after I was on the podcast the last time I got a lot of comments
06:36:24.520
saying that I look like the girl version of you.
06:36:27.000
So I just wanted to let you know that I kind of see.
06:36:42.980
This girl just said, I look like Ricky Gervais.
06:38:12.140
Uh, that is 17% of all men, 32% of all white men in that age range.
06:38:29.740
I'm like, we're all sides of it be like two percent then.
06:39:03.560
I guess that makes sense because if you exclude married, like, what percentage of men
06:39:11.980
Because it jumped just from that, from like 30% of white men to 72.
06:39:20.280
I feel like they shouldn't even factor in married men.
06:39:24.240
Into the, this is, this is, makes it unreliable.
06:39:31.360
What women are going to be like, yeah, I want to date a married.
06:39:40.360
Mine's going to literally be like, no, I don't want to do this.
06:40:29.380
But, I mean, my man is definitely makes a lot more than 80K.
06:40:32.740
That's surprising considering you chose like any race.
06:40:42.420
Like, I want to, if I'm going to, like, try to make a point, I want it to be reliable and accurate.
06:40:51.620
So, I mean, the whole thing about dating easier for men.
06:40:59.740
Or dating is about as difficult for each person.
06:41:04.200
But, I mean, if you look at the early stages of dating, I think, I don't think how you can even come to a conclusion that doesn't arrive at dating is way harder for men.
06:41:21.400
And so, on this basis alone, dating is harder for men.
06:41:25.880
And I was speaking more specifically on the current, the, like, actual conversations that you've had with women on the podcast about it that usually are, like, very wealthy, very, you know, high, like, very high beauty standard and things like that.
06:41:45.540
I figured it would be a lot easier for them and the women that you talked to and how they didn't understand that it is really difficult for men in that, in those specific cases.
06:41:56.760
Like, when you were having conversations with these women who, you know, do OnlyFans or porn and they have very, like, their.
06:42:06.100
Well, the majority of women we have on the show don't do OnlyFans.
06:42:28.380
I just single you out, Jordan, sometimes, I guess.
06:42:37.040
I mean, dating is harder for them than, I think, the average woman.
06:42:41.020
I mean, they have simps, but, like, actually dating, I think it's harder for them.
06:42:51.620
I've learned a lot more about how you think than before.
06:42:54.900
I think women have dating on easy mode as compared to men.
06:43:01.080
Like, as a woman, you can hop onto a dating app.
06:43:04.440
And are you speaking specifically hooking up or just, or actually dating?
06:43:08.460
Even, like, well, if going on dates is the initial phases of dating, and if it's easier for women to get a date, even if the guy's intentions are perhaps to hook up, that's usually where most modern dating kind of begins.
06:43:37.500
What's, so, I mean, but, like, where, how big is the city you live in?
06:44:23.840
I wanted to be a Power Ranger when I was young.
06:44:37.960
talk a little bit more as we do this. We're going to do a
06:44:42.220
session, then we're going to wrap the show here.
06:44:59.420
Good talk. Glad to be here. It was a good show. I thought it was a fun show.
06:45:07.900
I think Pearl's the homie. We'll have Pearl back if you
06:47:52.540
wondering why you ever even said yes to tonight.
06:48:30.940
What's the question you really want to ask the panel, Maddie?
06:49:17.380
I think that was my main purpose on this whole show, actually.
06:49:34.820
To circle back to the start, it is absolutely a woman's choice to wear a bikini to a pool party
06:49:40.580
without her man, but she also has to accept the consequences of that choice.
06:50:50.460
Going around the table, does body count matter?
06:51:17.240
No, it doesn't matter what the other person says.
06:51:35.660
You bring on the most interesting women, like this Jim Pearl.
06:51:39.880
It exemplifies what happens when Christianity meets secularism.
06:52:13.880
I was wondering if he was going to be here today.
06:52:15.500
Because I was like, this is too much of a quink.
06:52:18.960
We'll get you on with Andrew one of these days.
06:52:22.360
I'm surprised it hasn't happened just randomly.
06:52:29.740
Normally the ones I watch of him, he's virtually on.
06:52:32.540
Pearl, you want to come back and be on with Andrew?
06:53:21.920
Pearl, honestly, did you learn anything tonight, or will you still be on your current path to
06:53:28.340
The chat and I are pretty sure you learned nothing and will be unhappy for most of your
06:54:03.000
Would you rather be spawned in a forest with a random man or a random bear that you will
06:54:30.540
I'm literally just going based off of that video because, I don't know, I'm getting nervous
06:54:36.480
I feel like I have, like, a fighting chance with a bear for some reason.
06:54:47.980
And then I saw that TikTok and it, like, screwed with my head.
06:54:52.720
You guys gotta, like, help me un-brainwash me from that video.
06:55:42.480
I'll wrap the show once the two urinating people are back from the bathroom or whatever.
06:55:58.620
If you guys want to get a little roast session.
06:56:34.180
Hey, you should plug your music, you vapid 304.
06:56:38.000
What are you going to do to make money when that backfires?
06:57:19.400
The women that won't answer body count know Thea's is too high to get a good man if they
06:57:26.260
Only those with low body count aren't afraid to say.
06:57:29.800
Most modern women are strumpets hashtag less than 10.
06:57:47.240
The difference between most men and women is guys will call out other guys if they are
06:57:51.640
growing dumpy, but women will lie and gas each other up.
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Also, I wonder, like, if a guy called me fat, I wouldn't be offended.
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But I feel like if you call a girl fat, she'd be really upset by that.
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I mean, I feel like if you have, like, if you have a really good friend, you're honest
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But you're not going to blast them or you're not going to make them feel bad.
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I also think you should be able to look at yourself and be like, okay, do I need to lose
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Like, I should, like, everyone should be working out, but especially if you're gaining a lot
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of weight, like, you should be looking at yourself and realizing that you need to start
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You need to start working on yourself or I'm not going to be with you anymore.
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Or is it more just like, you should come in a gym.
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It's more like encouragement to, like, take them to eat better.
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If it's your friend, I would just, if my friend was getting really big, I would just straight
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up tell her, like, I'm not good at being like, oh, blah, blah, blah.
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Well, another way to do it is to try to get them to go on a hike with you.
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With aromas from sheet metal and motor oil, you're a man every time you wash.
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Average personality, average looks, average job, average height, average pee-pee size.
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If his personality is above average for pee-pee.
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Ava, would you say your man is jacked, tan, and juicy?
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You won't be able to see if she's wearing black.
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I can show my quads another time when they're out.
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I once told a girl she should shave her upper lip before it became more noticeable.
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That's the difficult thing that we were saying earlier is women want you, they say they want
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No, that's the thing is if you know that you can trust the guy that you're with.
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How do you tell a girl that she smells down there?
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I think all of us at this table would agree you should know yourself.
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Not unless she has COVID and she doesn't have that smell.
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I think all of us women at the table agree that you should know personally if you smell
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Yeah, no, if she doesn't know, she's not hygienic.
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And if that's the case, then don't go on a second date or don't...
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What if she's a nice girl but she doesn't know the right thing?
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You're going to have to have that conversation.
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You're going to have to have that conversation with her at some point.
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I'm going to read the text how I told this girl.
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This is going to be sort of embarrassing for me, but I'm just going to do it.
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I said, I know this is kind of an embarrassing topic, and I'm sorry for that, but last time
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we hung out, I noticed a different scent down there than the last time, and I wanted
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Just maybe something to bring up with your gyno, potentially.
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I hope this is not embarrassing, but just thought you should know so you can address any
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Maybe it's nothing, but figured I should say something.
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That was a really good way to say it, honestly.
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I feel like it would be more than text is better.
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I was smiling when I was saying it, but I mean, I was being genuine.
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I'm not going to give her a whole round of a minute.
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Whatever you say or how you phrase it, some girl's gonna feel some type of way about it.
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Even if you tell her, don't feel embarrassed, she's gonna feel embarrassed.
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The one thing I took out of that is I really do hope...
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But the one thing I did take from that is I do hope that she is going to her gyno.
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Because it's not like a man would actually say that to a woman unless he truly meant it.
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So I hope she didn't just take it as like, oh, he's being rude or whatever, and she actually is going like...
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Because you know what blows my mind, actually, that I've learned recently?
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Like, from people that I went on dates with or whatever, when any of the conversation...
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Like, a lot of men, if you ask them, like, if you've ever been checked for anything, or like, oh, like, I really don't want to do anything with you unless I know that you've been checked.
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Like, and they've never been checked in their life for anything.
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Like, so many people just go and do a bunch of things with people and never even think to get themselves checked or anything.
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If you have, like, very few partners or just one, you should still get checked.
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Also, I think somebody said earlier that I have fake eyebrows.
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It's to make you guys look smart because you're all historic historians.
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Any Mark Felton Productions enjoyers in the chat?
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I could be mixing it up, but I think it is 1913.
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Early 1900s is all I'm going to throw out there.
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That's where car wrapping came from, World War I.
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Also that, yeah, that's what I was going to say.
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My last GF told me she didn't like giving head.
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Later she said she didn't like the hair, so I shaved.
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Everyone on the panel did phenomenally, but Burl is just radar dead.
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Well, early 1900s, Maddie was probably, like, right or almost right.
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That's why we're one year off at the beginning.
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He's like, do you guys prefer a guy who, like, manscapes?
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Wait, so does that mean, so he has to be shaved and you have to be shaved?
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I mean, like, groomed on a one or a two setting, not, like, bald.
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Oh, a full workday with running water and snacks.
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Mark Felton has the best World War II channel on YouTube.
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Yeah, I get them threaded, cleaned up, you know, because I don't want, like, craziness.
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Because if I don't get them threaded, then they're pretty crazy.
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My cousin's going to be laughing, like, really?
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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I was waiting for the yellow one to be pulled up.
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So, okay, you can put it on like the video at the top, very top.
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Yeah, guys, like the video, please, on your way out, like I said.
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We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
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Got a pretty good panel for that, assuming there's not flakes and no shows.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
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I can't pull it up, but he's playing World of Warcraft Classic.
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Tell him to say what's up to Andrew Tate, I guess.
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