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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, host Brian Atlas sits down with a group of college students to discuss their experiences with online dating. They discuss the pros and cons of online dating, what it's like to be a college student in college, and what it means to be single in the 21st century.
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Starving children in Africa. All a distraction
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to follow us on the free speech platform rumble rumble.com slash whatever without further ado
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the glaive thanks for the gifted uh without further ado we're going to have the guests
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introduce themselves starting with you go ahead i am lilith vex i'm from new york but i moved to
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oregon and i'm 24. all right what do you do for work i do only fans how long you've been doing
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that i've been doing it on and off but this year was the first year that i've actually like took
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it more seriously so yeah and you uh used to be a stripper is that correct i was a stripper yeah
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any college or anything yes i i'm working on my bachelor's in marketing uh and you're going to
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school in new york for that or where you go i do online at franklin university gotcha okay what
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about you um my name is christina i don't know why you always call me tina that's your name
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it's christina okay and i'm 22 and i live in la i'm still a student okay i your attire it's very
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it looks like michael jackson michael jackson you know what i'm talking about i don't know
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he had an outfit like that uh college college ucla ucla all right okay and uh you're wearing
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some contacts or something are they different from last time or different different okay let
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me have you scoot your mic two inches that way what about you my name is jessica i'm 30 i'm a
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programmer and i'm from the bay area all right uh college uc santa cruz what did you get your
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degree in cognitive science cognitive science all right explain that for the people who don't know
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psychology it's a bit vague i guess um okay so you got your bachelor's of science or of
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art in that bachelor's of science of what science of science okay and when did you graduate
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2019 2000 okay so what seven years ago or so all right and uh you're a sorry software engineer
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computer engineer software engineer software engineer uh do you work for a company or
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doing that yeah okay um do you have any concerns over uh ai taking your job
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okay by the way you had a piece of paper do you still have that with you what is that this is for
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you oh oh you drew me happy okay oh um oh wow okay I'm gonna hang that in my thank you she
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should do a little art me surfing when I was still a young lad okay thank you appreciate it
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that's very kind uh hello what about you my name is Angela I'm a freelance self-made chef
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I'm also a yacht chef, mother of two adult streamer kids.
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And 48, graduated from Georgia Mason University.
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I've been slinging my own clients for the last 10 years.
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Let me have you scoot your mic two inches that way for me.
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Okay, no college, and you live where currently?
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why um to to degenerate to not a city girl not a city girl you're a sticks girl yeah
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trailer trash type of thing don't say that that's not true you're not have you seen my instagram
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i've seen your tattoos there you go all right good talk um of course and uh let's see what
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what about you? I'm Haley. I'm 39. I'm from actually Tulsa, Oklahoma, but I live in Reseda,
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California. Uh, I'm a laboratory manager. You're hiding behind the microphone. Oh, I am. I'm so
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sorry. Sorry. I apologize. Uh, laboratory manager. I have a bachelor's in biology and a master's in
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biomedical sciences. And for, you said you work in a lab. Can you give us some details about
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yeah yeah actually so my basically i oversee the workflow of the lab so i help order supplies i
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bring in vendors to calibrate instruments and i help with project management and grant management
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as well okay and uh so you have a strong science background yes yes char scoot in a little bit
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Scoot in, you're too lean back, a little too casual.
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No, no, just, you know, I didn't write it down.
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I'm Liz, I'm from Los Angeles, and I work in the tech industry,
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supporting aerospace and defense clients, and I am 41.
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College dropout. Okay. And you work in the aerospace industry.
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I support aerospace and defense clients. Yeah. With AI and data initiatives.
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Okay. And you're from Australia. Is that correct?
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Negative. Ghost Rider. I was born in Texas, but I grew up in Australia.
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Well, hold on. I think my statement is accurate as stated.
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So you're from Australia. So you were born in Texas.
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When I was five, but I moved back here when I was 25.
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So technically speaking, I have more time in the U.S. than I have in Australia.
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I have dual citizenship, but I gave that up when I got my secret clearance.
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So I had TS, which means I had to give up my dual citizenship because I was a citizen by naturalization, not by birth.
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And you should know this because don't you have French and American?
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Although I'm not sure how what I said you would be able to infer that I'm not aware of the naturalization.
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I'm not familiar with the citizenship process in Australia.
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So it wouldn't immediately be, your American citizenship, given that you were born here, is undoubted.
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But I'm not familiar with Australian citizenship process.
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so i'm not sure how we arrived there in any case okay uh next hi my name is elara i go by vela
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online vela lol on instagram i'm 24 i'm from chicago but i recently moved to san diego for
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school i'm pursuing my phd in literature and um yeah that's about it all right next
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hi everyone my name is crystal i go by cj shines bright on insta red pill brown girl
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I have a podcast called Unblack, where I talk about the issues that's facing black Americans and how it's important to kind of not be under labels because black is the absence of light, and that's what's happening a lot.
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I am a mom to three beautiful, wonderful kids, and I'm a wife, and that's pretty much it.
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all right um and sorry could you repeat uh age i'm 42 42 college did you say that yep i went to
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uh hbcu so i'm bliggity black i'm black black black what's what's that a lot of times when
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people howard brown historically black oh historically yeah so a lot of times when
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people are conservative they'll say oh well you want to be white and i'm like no
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i walk this black experience i know what it is and i want no parts of it so all right what about
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you hi my name is annika i'm 27 i stream on twitch and i do only fans all right um wait going back
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to you you said you're 41 right yes sir wait how long were you um you lived you were born in the
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united states you lived here till you were five and then you were in australia for how long 20
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years 20 years so you're in australia until you were 25 correct okay and then how long have you
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been in the united states so it's been about 11 years now some wait yeah i wait no wait 15 yeah
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how long 18 years yeah 18 something like that but i've been here since so five and then 25 to now
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Wait, you've been in the United States since 05?
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All right, great, we're going to go around the table once more.
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What is everyone's relationship status, starting with you?
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he was too big it's too big sorry so i couldn't do it anymore yeah i couldn't do that yeah
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uh well so my confusion arises because you know i do some background research on people
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not like background check or anything like that but you know i look at your instagram profile
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sometimes i suppose that is i flip a coin to decide what hole it goes into uh and most of
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the time it ends up in my ass so yes you flip a coin yes i flip a coin i just heads or tails
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tails and and whatever it happens that's where i test it in okay yes so tails would be ass yes
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ass yeah head would be would be regina that's impressive poon poon poon yeah or i like to call
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it put a put a um okay that's what i call it pussy yeah got it good to know yes so sometimes
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you do insert it in yeah i did a banana and a cucumber before cucumber yeah well a persian
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cucumber or i i don't know what cocktail cucumber i just grabbed whatever cucumber i could find at
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the grocery store i just i looked at a cucumber and i was like okay you're it and that's it because
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they have monstrous cucumbers well yeah i couldn't i couldn't you know i couldn't insert it actually
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the cucumber i just like played with it on the outside yeah um okay so then you said the banana
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too yeah i did a banana other fruits have you used um uh no mainly everything else just went
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in my butthole it was just like a paper towel roll um the handle of a peeler for a pizza like
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the thing that you know takes out pizza um cool Febreze bottle have you tried a microphone
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no like a Sennheiser can I borrow one or sorry these are not these are sure excuse me not
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Sennheiser can I uh SM7B no because then we'd have to thoroughly we'd probably just have to
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burn it no I put a condom on I put a condom on I would still you know protection is key I wouldn't
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even disinfect it I'd probably have to put it in an autoclave I can hook you up with that do you
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We'd probably have to hazmat it, put hazmat suits on, and then, you know, put it in a barrel and bury it underground for a period of 10,000 years.
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So, okay, you've been single for six months.
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You broke up with your fiancé because his penis was too large.
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But I shove inanimate objects up my ass, yes.
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that is uh i want to go home that's fucking disgusting yeah all right uh cool that's cool
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um she was asking do you have a favorite object oh a favorite object um are you looking for tips
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no i would honestly have to say um vanilla extract bottle is the nicest the smaller goes a long way
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it's not the size that matters what's the market what's the market for that i'm not interested in
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this conversation uh so okay you've been you've been single for six months yeah are there any
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guys in the picture currently um yeah he's 54 54 okay so you date older men yeah and you're 24
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yeah i am so age gaps we can talk about age gaps later uh but you're seeing multiple men
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is that correct uh no just just him just him the 54 year old yes the 54 so is he your sugar daddy
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no i met him at the strip club and then he invited me out to a concert and then i just was like can
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we fuck and then yeah that was it i mean he was hot to go about it okay tina what about christina
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what about you um michael jackson like wait can you can you do hee hee hee wow that was terrible
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okay uh okay relationship status christina i think right now it's something wait can you scoot
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no no no no yeah there you go okay something between dating and single
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okay so how many men only one just one okay so talking stage
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any any long-term relationships uh no i'm gonna make you moonwalk by the way i'm going to
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i don't know you're gonna have to do are you do they know about michael jackson in china i think
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they do pretty sure world famous of course before world famous before the internet where's adzils
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adzils are you watching he's a michael jackson fan okay um single cool um
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any anything new since last time dating wise just this new guy okay what about you
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single single wow you said that so in a proud way uh longest relationship two months two months
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hey let's be let's not laugh at her no she knows what she wants um how long you've been single for
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seven years set uh okay um now two months um did you call that guy your boyfriend yes were you did
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you ever say I love you to him once I texted it to him okay have you ever said I love you to another
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man like not your father obviously I don't think so actually no were you actually in love with him
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though I don't know well it was only two months relationship you know so um but he was your
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boyfriend in fact yes have you had other boyfriends no one boyfriend okay two months
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why did that end he broke he dumped me why is that what did you do he didn't say did you stab him
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with uh yeah because that would be the only reason someone could dump me right
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you're perfect in every other way besides your homicidal uh tendencies um why did he break up
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with you he wouldn't say like he said lots of reasons lots of reasons give me one um he literally
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didn't even give me one was it the white guy yeah wait white complexion how do you know caucasian
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yes i mean well how do i know i mean there's only so many races you know i just started with
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you're in the usa i mean good chance you know roll the dice um what's your ethnicity by the
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way indian what's your ethnicity i am uh puerto rican chinese and jamaican
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christina as our official chinese person i'm only like do you detect do you detect
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any chinese no i don't detect i don't as somebody who is familiar with asian women
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i don't detect any chinese i don't see it my last name is fully chinese what's your last name
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i can't say that can i oh uh actually yeah i can just say my my legal last name sure why not it's
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lynch you christina yeah i don't know christina you're you get the final say on this christina
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tina last name yeah two words like two words yeah hyphenated oh that must be must be an american
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thing what what do you think christina yeah i think maybe were you adopted no 10 chinese
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yeah my dad was like half he was half and half he was blasian okay yeah and then my mom all right
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so in seven year time you've not like have you dated a guy recently like just dating uh sure
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yeah when's the last time you had carnal knowledge never what never never sex correct
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two-month boyfriend no sex correct other man no sex yes woman no sex yeah
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transgender no sex correct non-binary they them no sex okay gotta add no sex
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you're virgin yes oh wait hold on i meant to press
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30 year old virgin let's go w's in the chat 30 year old are you waiting until marriage or what's
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what's the deal uh i used to think about it i guess but no i'm it's lifelong are you wait
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lifelong yeah what do you mean lifelong celibate oh wow oh that's okay you didn't go you write that
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in your notes um so you what if wait do you have a celebrity crush right now i wrote my celebrity
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crushes in my notes but right now trent reznor oh are you gonna ask if i would marry him no if
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you would just have sex with your celebrity crush no one of them but i've seen you ask someone that
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before when she was waiting for marriage so are you you're asexual yeah is there a particular
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reason or you don't desire it um correct i don't desire it um maybe because of religion and i also
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like religion what's your religion catholic well there's no uh would you not have sex if you were
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to get married because you said lifelong because of that i cannot get married because of what
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I mean, I've thought about it, but not perceivably.
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Okay, but so you don't want to get married then.
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it's okay or i guess technically that's a is it catholics is that a sin you can't yes it is a
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sin you're catholic yes i am do you masturbate no i do not speaking of i'm abstinent hey look it's
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okay before the show my friend said you masturbate before the show whoa what get out of here um okay
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so full have you had an accidental orgasm you know you're like on a horse or some shit yeah
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I won't marry you, but you can be my free slave labor.
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i can get on board with that right no okay does the idea of sex um is it does it upset you is it
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or mics too uh can you lower your microphone a bit just a bit um go ahead respond probably
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repulsed you're disgusted by it is there is there a particular reason or
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um speak into the mic like a reason for why down for me a reason for why that is yeah
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So Christians, Catholics are called to marry, have children.
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So there's nothing in the Catholic or Christian faith that would preclude you from engaging in post-marital sex.
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Obviously, it does say don't engage in premarital sex, but you don't want to engage in sex period, right?
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So there's not a – my understanding is – now, of course, there are nuns in the churches, but there's nothing actually in the faith that precludes Catholic women from once married engaging in sex.
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I have heard this is a common problem with religious women, and I've heard some religious women talk about it.
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Like, there was Aline Tamir and Shelby Haddon, and they got married, but then because of their upbringing, they were unable to have sex after they got married.
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Well, I'm not familiar with those particular cases, but they were unable to?
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Okay, just very briefly, what were the reasons they were incapable of having sex?
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There can be ways to, I suppose, overcome that, I guess.
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Yeah, so Shelby went to four years of physical therapy, and it still was painful, but it was possible.
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And then Aline was married for three years, and her husband ended up divorcing her.
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Okay, so is that what you, uh, is that your malady?
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I mean, I'm fine with it because I also, like, there's just a lot of reasons.
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A safer Ontario means more police and prosecutors making sure my car doesn't get stolen.
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It means building new jails to keep criminals behind bars.
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And it means there's no need to worry when I play at the park.
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We're making every corner of Ontario safer to make all of Ontario safer.
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Okay, in any case, you are going to be celibate for life
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okay all right that's pretty fair i suppose um cool do you want children i probably not i'm
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probably not okay all right interesting 30 year old virgin is going to remain a virgin what it
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what about the micro penis is that a possibility because i mean you know if it's small why are you
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asking are you asking me out i'm just kidding you got me i have a micro penis i want to insert it
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into you how did you know um no so i that could be a solution you know like this girl she broke
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up with a man because the penis was too big maybe a woman who has you know that you got to find a
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guy with a smaller peen okay good talk hello relationship status i am single i've been more
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single than not in my whole life okay by choice um and i would actually say that i'm celibate
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i go through very long dry spells and at some point after like i don't know five six years you
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got to break down and do the deed just for some physical contact but i um i don't generally enjoy
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random sex i don't get anything out of it i get more out of me and my big daddy dildo and myself
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If a man doesn't measure up to the, is that a problem?
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Because I feel like you're, you know, it's not fair to the guy, you know?
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Well, if you know the vagina, it welcomes everybody.
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Sure, I've had two kids, but it's not a hot dog down the hallway.
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In fact, I've had so little sex in my life that it's still pretty and, you know, like, it's nice.
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Yes, Michael Jackson is massive in China, known in every continent.
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dead or alive the most famous man after christ hashtag michael is king yeah by the way i actually
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just this past week i saw the michael movie uh it was okay it was all right you know it was it was
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pretty the the actor was pretty i think pretty good the guy who jafar jackson he was pretty good
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who saw the michael movie yeah but the american dream was the best like it can't compare i didn't
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see that but uh yeah i'm old i by the way i just want to say i went to michael jackson's ranch
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back in the day and i just want to say he never did anything to me
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i think he's innocent i think the man is innocent definitely a little you know some of that stuff
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a little weird, but I think he's innocent of all crimes. That's my opinion.
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Okay. So you have been single for how long? My last relationship ended in the 20,
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I want to say maybe 2012, 2013. That lasted a year, but really it should have ended six months in.
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Yeah, he adamantly believed that whatever money he gave me would go to my son,
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which doesn't make sense because I'm a good mother.
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And in the state of Virginia, really, child support is to pay the mother back already invested through, you know, through rent and food and child care and shoes and all that stuff.
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Now, you, so you've been single for most of your life.
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but me and my husband have been together for 12 to 13 of those six years longest relationship
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this one this one yes uh how many kids none no kids no okay uh step kids none okay do you want
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kids or no i can't have them okay uh just um any particular reason or medical reason infertility
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yes okay uh let's see married for six years all right what about you um i'm single i've been
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single for about just over a year now and my longest relationship was about six and a half
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years six and any uh ever married no sir any kids no unfortunately no why unfortunately um
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because it's probably one of the biggest regrets of my life is you're 41 you got you could probably
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pump one out i don't know i'm not even in a relationship so you know no guys in the picture
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currently no sir single for one year celibate for one year one year all right so single for
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a little bit longer and then i like i was dating but sure yeah okay um all right
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what about you i'm in a relationship with jesus christ our lord and savior
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uh tilt your mic down for me a little bit uh so
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how about an earthly relationship yes i have a boyfriend of um two years uh yeah
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two years uh two-year boyfriend yes okay and um longest relationship this one this one okay
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have you had previous relationships yes i have i am abstinent though i will say that as well
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uh current you're currently abstinent yes uh well i've been yeah look for the entire duration
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of the two-year relationship uh no uh-huh okay uh when i found god again last year yes how long
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have you been abstinent uh it's been about a year uh is your boyfriend also catholic no he is what
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protestant he i think he's probably more of an agnostic or an atheist oh wow yeah it's definitely
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a problem um okay this is interesting to explore yeah okay so you've been dating the guy for two
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years you now how soon into the relationship did you guys start having carnal knowledge
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pretty soon um yeah probably within like the first couple months i would say but i
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at that time i was like i didn't have any faith um in my life so i was kind of very misguided
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i was right but then you found faith and again you're catholic and yes you are you've been
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abstinent you said for about a year is that correct okay um however the relationship did
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not start out that way so how do you and i assuming you guys did have a regular sex life
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prior to the abstinence uh yeah semi-regularly i would say like so how do you propose to your
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non-religious agnostic boyfriend who's in a sexual relationship with you that you wish to
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cease all sex with him how do you what's the pitch um i think he definitely struggles with it
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uh, for sure. Um, sure. Yeah. Hold on. Let her finish, please. I do believe that he definitely
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struggles with it. And I, you know, he's been, he's been with me for a year after it, so he's
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still with me. Um, but I do think that there is potential that it doesn't work out because of
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this. Um, are you guys long distance? No. Okay. Do you guys live together? Yes. Live together.
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Okay, and so how long have you lived together for?
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When the sex could have been the most frequent it could have ever been is when the sex ceases, I suppose.
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Yeah, he's, you know, he recently told me that he would like to start coming to church with me again because, you know, he knows it means a lot to me.
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But I just don't think that he feels he says he like doesn't feel anything.
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You know, he'd rather like play video games and stuff.
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So he now sometimes there's there's loopholes and technicalities in this sort of conversation.
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When it comes to the cessation, the abstinence, are you guys engaging in any other sexual activity such as oral sex, mutual masturbation, anything like that?
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This dude is sleeping in the same bed and no pussy.
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that's tough that's a tough job tough job um okay so if he's not the right man for me the
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right man will come into my life and would be okay with not having sex with me until we're
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married until marriage um let me ask you this um must the man you marry be christian ideally
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yes but you know ideally yeah so what you'd marry a muslim oh absolutely not would you
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marry an atheist? Is it better to marry, I'm perhaps for the Christian religious people in
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the chat too, would it be, if you're a Christian and you are inclined to even marry somebody who
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say agnostic or atheist, would it be better? Would you rather marry someone who is of a different
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religion or someone who is of no religion? So for you, I guess, would you rather marry an atheist
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to shop now i depend on them i would be open to like a relationship with a protestant but ideally
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a catholic man i see okay and uh let's one sec uh okay where was i going with all this
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shouldn't it just be you said ideally like ideally you'd want to marry a Christian man
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shouldn't it just be they have to be Christian because I if like having shared values is pretty
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much one of the most important things I think you can have yeah I agree in a relationship and if the
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person doesn't share your religious values which I mean yep I imagine your faith is overall it is
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the most important thing to you yeah absolutely so like if there's not a share if there's not
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an alignment on religion yeah then i just for someone who is religious i don't see the point
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in like entertaining somebody who's agnostic atheist or another religion doesn't really make
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sense truth be told let the man free let him roam yeah let him get some pussy agree yeah just you
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got to break up with a guy or he's got to dump you no offense i think um like it's complicated
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only because when we got in the relationship i wasn't you know christian and so i think he had
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already like and i feel you know i do feel bad for him he had like emotionally invested in me for me
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all of a sudden to like flip the switch and be like i'm catholic now i don't want to have sex
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like i can imagine that was really difficult for him and probably still is um but we've chosen to
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stay together um if he chooses to break up with me then i would be understanding of that decision
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uh for sure now as far as the no sex thing um how did he take that um like he's not yeah he's pretty
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like emotional and pretty um no i wouldn't say violent but like he gets angry so i would say
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that this is definitely something that upsets him well hold on so okay to be clear he's not
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physically attacking you no has he ever physically assaulted you no more verbal okay so he gets he's
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angry but yeah it's like a verbal expression yes exactly so you guys argue a lot um not really
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arguing no he just like like i can give an example um like a little bit ago like about a week ago i
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was streaming um just like games on twitch like i'm not a titty stream or anything like just
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streaming and he was upset that i was like interacting with the chat so he pulled the
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power and shut off the power so like little things like that let me ask you a question so
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i know he's just your boyfriend but you do plan to get married correct not not to him necessarily
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but yeah exactly uh maybe him maybe somebody else yes uh so um
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do you believe that from a christian perspective wives should obey their husbands
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uh yes absolutely okay so if your husband said you're not going to stream ever again
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would you accept that i think uh it depends well yes but it depends like i would hope that the
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person that is my husband has like reasonings for this and could give if he could give me like
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you know his reasoning and how he's deciding to lead and what decision this is and why it's good
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for us um then yeah so let's say you disagree yeah with his reasoning but he still wants you to
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cease do you cease um I don't know that's a hard question I guess I I don't know well so
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okay um i don't know that the person that i love and should oh sorry go ahead i don't know why the
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person i don't know if the person that i love and want to spend the rest of my life with
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would try to strip me of something that makes me happy like that's not harming any well so so hold
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on though um good wives should wives be submissive to their husbands yes yes yeah hold on from i'm
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asking from a catholic christian perspective yes uh and it in fact it states as much in the bible
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Yes. Right. So is submission when you, is submission something you do when you already
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want to do it? Or is submission something, even when you don't want to do the thing,
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you do it anyways? Um, I think, sorry, what were the, can you repeat that?
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Well, okay. So it's like, yeah, you know, it's very easy for a woman to be submissive when,
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Say, for example, she's on your private jet and you're giving her $10,000 a month to buy things.
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There's a lot of instances where it's pretty easy for a woman to be submissive.
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But the real test of if you do actually subscribe to what the Bible instructs you to do is when you're submissive in an instance where perhaps you might disagree with your husband.
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Now, to be clear, if your husband is instructing you to do something, say, immoral or against, you know, he's like, okay, I'm going to pimp you out.
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Obviously, you can not be submissive and you can, disobey isn't the right word.
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You can reject his leadership in that instance because he's not instructing you to do something in alignment with Christian values.
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However, if he's just like, hey, listen, I'm your husband.
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I don't want that sort of, and look, I don't know what he does, maybe as a streamer too, in any case.
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Even if he's just like, the reasoning is silly.
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He's just like, you know what, it just gives me the ick.
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But I don't think shutting off the power is a way to communicate that effectively.
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Well, sure, that's a bit, I suppose, well, a bit passive-aggressive in the context of your relationship.
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But, I mean, I suppose if he asked you, now I'm not commenting on, because he's your boyfriend, right?
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So there's, now I still think women should be generally submissive to their premarital partners or whatever.
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However, from like a biblical perspective, I don't have quite as strong of an argument.
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But if your husband, for example, were to tell you to stop streaming and you refused, would it necessarily be so wrong in that instance for him to pull the power?
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Yeah, well, that would be if I were to refuse, but I guess like there was no.
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Yeah, out of the blue because he was fine with it before.
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And also, like I said, I just play games with my friends on stream.
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When you hear the word stream, it may seem like it's promiscuous or something.
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Like being a Catholic, like pulling the power on that?
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I think, no, I'm staying true to my faith and trying to show up for God.
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When you first had sex with him, was it you wanting it or was it him initiating?
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However, and I mean, I'm a bit shocked he opted to stay with you.
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But you're not wrong, but he would not be wrong if you say, hey, I'm not having sex with you anymore.
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If a woman wants to stop having sex with a man, the man can be like, okay, goodbye.
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You know, I think there's a component, though, because you guys, he's attached.
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I assume you guys were in love are in love yeah um so it is kind of a I don't know it's kind of
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like if I was dating a woman and I was taking care of all the bills and and I was like one day you
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know I was like you know this whole provider thing 50 50 here on out you know it's kind of like I
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mean some women would be like okay I guess you know so I don't know and streaming you're giving
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do you believe that you're giving your attention to someone else so so it not when he pulled it
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out he's probably frustrated for a lot of reasons but also because you're giving your attention to
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whomever on the stream and he first you take away his sex now he gets no attention do you feel like
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that could have been yeah I definitely think so I think um effective communication though is like
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a better way to you know handle that because like initially he wanted like he was excited
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for me to stream and he was like actually asking me like when are you going to stream again when
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you're going to stream again like kept asking me to do it so I was like okay I'll do it today and
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then all of a sudden like he you know switched up so I was like a bit confused like like you
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wanted me to stream and now you I have a question for you actually um so when you go to church on
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Sunday yeah like from the time you leave to the time you come back how long is that um probably
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about and like between driving and it's about an hour and a half mass is like 60 minutes oh okay I
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just want to know how long yeah wait wait hold on you want to know because you think in that time
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he's no i don't think he can't no i don't think he can not in an hour i mean are you being so
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maybe yeah i was yeah i was like maybe in an hour if a man wants to do it he will yeah
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when you moved in together you signed the lease right yes when you signed the lease were you
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already intimate uh i think no no not at that point so you guys signed together and you
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already took away sex yes okay well then i don't know because you're thinking oh well like he's
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like in this legal contract i mean look you can find ways to exit the lease you know subleaser
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you know you both try to you know find someone else to take it over etc our lease is about to
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be it's that it's not in july that is a good point though it's like imagine just signing a
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one-year lease and then like a weekend oh great we moved in together we're gonna have a bunch of
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sex sorry i'm a catholic now no pussy for you it's okay but to her credit this all went down
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before they moved in yeah all went down okay so so i don't understand the point though like
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you've already you've already done the deed in the eyes of god you can't undo it and there's no
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amount of abstinence that will replace it so that's not true because god forgives so well for sure
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Forgiveness is there because he's a loving God, but you've already done the deed.
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When you leave reconciliation, the priest tells you, go and sin no more.
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So now your duty as a Catholic is to go and to sin no more.
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So it's not to continue to sin and think, oh, I already did it.
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I'm already doing it, so I might as well keep continuing to do it.
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You need to stop the sin and try to be better for God every day.
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also another question what does your boyfriend think of you being on the podcast
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um i think he's a fan is he watching um possibly i think so well he's in france so
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um maybe i don't know the time wait it's a long distance no he's french but um he's like going
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okay okay i understood about that c'est fini okay c'est fini avec cette fille ici c'est fini
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okay okay très bien allons-y très bien wait fuck what's that thing uh uh au revoir uh no it's uh
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fuck what is it it's uh no no no titois yeah is that what he tells you no tells you to shut up
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shut up yeah i'm just kidding c'est parti c'est parti okay très bien merci beaucoup all right
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can i ask her a question real quick um what do you think about the trad wives like that catholic
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situation with sarah sarah i guess doc or whatever where she's intentionally denying the guy that
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she's with but then she found somebody that knocked it up all night and day while she practiced
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abstinence. Can you define what trad means? Because I don't know that. Traditional wives.
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Wait, I'm confused. So there's a situation that was going on where she was withholding from her
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fiance until marriage, but turns out she was knocking boots with somebody else. Yeah,
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I think that's wrong, obviously. Like, if you're going to be abstinent, you're going to be abstinent,
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like until marriage with partner with your partner so yeah obviously i would consider that
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like to be cheating and a betrayal of trust so yeah sarah stock that was not that was so much
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she got i forgot the term for it but there's a latin term for she actually got the pope's blessing
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in front of the pope what's the somebody in the chat maybe you can write the it's a latin term
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very famously claimed she was waiting for marriage.
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Turns out she was getting banged out by her boss,
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and she was making her now ex-husband, I guess,
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wait for sex, but she was having sex with her boss.
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so crazy shit crazy shit um anyways relationship status my my co-host real quick he's his name is
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he is blanchard he said it's a cold game out there it's a cold game anyway well actually
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final thing on the sarah stock thing you know what's what is a pickle for me is
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the uh i almost some sometimes respect like the degenerate liberal
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fucked and they're gonna make a sucker out of a guy because like that's a worry for me it's like
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some girl's gonna be like brian i want to wait until mayor i've encountered this i want to wait
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until marriage i want to wait three months they're getting banged out by somebody else the last guy
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they done dealt with a month ago they fucked right away and it's like i don't i respect the o.f.
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poe yes more than the trad larper anyways didn't mean if you want to continue with your
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relationship status relationship status i'm divorced but i'm remarried all right first
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marriage um i have a kid um that's my oldest he's 16 and then i'm remarried to um a wonderful man
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matthew he's an artist and um worship pastor and we have two kids and we've been married for
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11 almost 12 years all right got it what about you i have a boyfriend as of yesterday
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and uh how long have you guys been together um we were seeing each other for three weeks
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and then he officially asked me yesterday um and then i do have a four-year-old son
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one kid one not from him though obviously um okay three weeks and then how long were you
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single before this new um i would go on a few dates here and there but my last official
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relationship ended last uh hungry now now what about now whenever it hits you wherever you are
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no i just have like a canadian accent for some reason no a little bit or maybe i misheard i
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don't know okay so that's everyone's relationship status there's a couple notes that i wanted to
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get back to here um where do we begin uh i'll wait until everyone's returned because we have
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two people up from the table at the moment for one of our primary topics for today um
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what did i want to get into um hmm one sec guys let me pull up my notes here uh
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uh we have disagreeers i want to get into the disagreeers uh angela we we have
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not a disagreement yet but you wrote that it is your impression that if men didn't need sexual
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release they likely would not ever need female companionship uh and that's in response to you
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mentioning how you've been single for most of your life by choice um and you said your longest
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relationship was uh two and a half two and a half years now um can you clarify i guess what you mean
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by that i find that both men and women but specifically men um are so focused on getting
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in a relationship that they haven't figured out what they even like so um so it's frustrating
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on their ends and you know we have all these horror stories about how women treat men terribly
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which is god-awful and true but um i don't think that they see value in women how do women
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make their lives better and why why would they want a woman i i get the impression that it's a
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social you're too far back scoot in please social status you know men men need validation they need
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to have a partner. And if they're single, people question them. And I understand why do people have
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to be questioned if they're single? Hey, why are you single? You're so beautiful. You know, it's
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like, so for men, if women were a little more cognizant towards their needs, maybe they would
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find value in partnership with women. But okay, so there was a viral clip I saw a couple weeks ago
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where a woman was complaining in a car as they often do on tiktok and she was saying something
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along the lines of would men even want to date women if they didn't have access to our bodies
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and you know look feminists and many women not all women will always find something to complain
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about but i find it interesting that women who are interested in heterosexual relationships
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somehow find it objectionable that men want to sleep with them.
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As if this is not, one, an evolutionary and biological imperative and drive.
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But there's also other reasons, like it just feels good.
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Well, it feels good for the biological imperative.
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You said it is your impression that if men didn't need sexual release,
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they likely would not ever need female companionship so i think men do desire more
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from women than just sex but do you think like if a woman didn't want to have sex that this is
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somehow an indication of a lacking on the man's part to not want to pursue a romantic relationship
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I think sex is a precursor to a relationship.
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And if a woman is not giving in, I don't think...
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I don't like the framing there, by the way.
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I don't think human beings are meant to be monogamous creatures.
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With that context, I think some men just don't need that emotional connection with a woman.
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And if they do, it's hard to find, so they just default to, hey, I just need some gratification.
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But, yeah, I think if women were a little different, they would probably be more like, hey, I want to be with you.
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But, no, I don't think, I think men would be happier if they didn't need women.
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Well, do you think that's because there's like a lack of emotional intelligence in a lot of women these days, just purely because of what they're exposed to?
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I think both ways. I think there's a lack of people having even the opportunity, they don't give themselves the opportunity to be emotionally intelligent and available anymore.
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Yeah, I actually hear and agree. Men really on, I mean, just like just in a very natural scale, do not need women. And unfortunately, when you're in Western world, we take away the very, the very thing that they're hanging out with you for the very thing that they're marrying you for the very thing that they even want to entertain your presence. We say we have a headache.
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like it's just yeah i don't think i don't think a lot of people are in the position to think
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outside of themselves enough to add value to someone's life wow but i i guess okay so
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the better framing i heard from this is that viral tiktok i saw she asked the question
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would men still want to date women if they didn't have access to women's bodies
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is that what you're getting at yes i think the answer is no me too right but where do we take
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so i don't think that's wrong though like if if a woman does not want to have sex with a man
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and he wants like okay what is the purpose the ultimate purpose of most romantic relationships
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to have kids ultimate coupling like and what is the difference then um like what distinguishes
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a, uh, what distinguishes friendship from a romantic relationship? Sexual attraction. Right.
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There's the sexual component. Um, so it's like, would you date an asexual man? No. Right. And I
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love men and I want to please a man and just the, I just want to give, give, give, you know,
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And so one of the reasons why I stay single is because I want to meet someone
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who's chosen to be single is on that level and is, you know.
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Do you think that your big daddy masturbation can inhibit your ability
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Okay, well, I'll put it out there, considering...
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Considering that I've not had a lot of relationships,
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I'll just say that I've never orgasmed with a man, ever.
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So, no, no, Big Daddy is an added value to my life.
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But, no, if I took him away, if he was gone forever,
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All right, let's ask the entire women here at the table.
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Women, would even you want a boyfriend or husband who didn't want to have sex with you?
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So I guess that viral video I saw, and perhaps a bit to your point, where the woman was saying,
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would men even want to date us if they didn't have access to our bodies?
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I don't think there's anything immoral about saying that sexual compatibility, sexual access, having sex is a prerequisite for a romantic relationship.
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So I think romance and friendship are different kinds of relationships.
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And if a guy knows that there's not going to be any sex, perfectly reasonable for him to not want to pursue a romantic relationship.
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That doesn't mean he doesn't respect women or value them as people.
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Chris Rock says that if a guy does not want to have sex with you or he's your friend, that was an accident.
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I wanted we have everyone at the table so we're going to do a react so I covered this I just
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remembered something can I say it or sorry okay what is it where she reminded me that um at the
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end of two months my ex asked an old man in his choir or he told him about me and the old man asked
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are you going to marry her and he said no and the old man said break up with her and I feel like my
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time was saved okay all right so anyways back to this um so uh last week i brought this up i don't
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know if you guys have heard of it the hip dip phenomenon the hip dip hip lits you guys familiar
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with this at all do you know what let's start with this do you know what hip dips are hip dips
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oh no who here show of hands has hip dips i think you have every female does we'll show a photo
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tiffany pull up the photo for me please uh can you um maybe zoom it down zoom it down uh more
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okay so no dip dip you can make a bit oh so it's like the the hip dip is when there's a dip
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in the hips i'm sure i i that's all i have there okay who can you demonstrate do you want to
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stand up for us and we can hide that tiffany i think i do oh do you have the hip dip uh okay okay
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okay can you move that way here move the mic okay move no hello there's a computer move that way
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move that way move that way um i don't know i don't see hip dips i have some i it's hard to
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tell i don't know if i'm gonna be able i don't know if i'm gonna be able to get a demonstration
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from any of the women here but uh i i guess here transitioning the topic here for a moment
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scoot the microphone back do you guys think it's uh are you guys who here has a height preference
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for men. Here, why don't we go around. How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man
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you would date? I'm 5'1". I don't really care. You date a guy who's 4'11"? Yeah, I date him.
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A short king. All right. What about you, Tina? 179. Okay. Well, centimeters. So you're how tall?
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Me? Yeah. 165. Okay. And 170. I don't know what that translates to. What about you? Into the
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Mike, can you take your glasses off the table, please?
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Okay, so, I understand you've dated, like, I don't understand.
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Is it your preference to continue to date broke guys?
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Can I rephrase that before I get just blasted for no reason?
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I'm 5'1", so anybody taller than me is sufficient.
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I'm 5'7", so anyone around my height is good enough,
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height preference like if a girl wants to date a taller
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pull the photo back up really quick for a moment
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there i said it i know my worth i will not settle for less if you have a hip dip
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have if you're a hip lit have hip dips we can be friends you'd be a great friend we can be just
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friends you know um i have a question for you sure go for um have you heard of like birthing
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hips though like women will get bigger hips after birth correct so what if someone holds your baby
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So you're saying I should date single moms?
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No, I'm saying what if you date someone with hip dips
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it's her and then just leaves until the hips come out look that's like saying that's like saying you
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know i don't i don't even know no i refuse absolutely refuse i will only date um no dip
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women because i'm entitled to my preferences and um i know my worth and slay king slay king
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so yeah it look if you have hip dips we can be friends but i just can't do it i can't do it i
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don't even think i could get hard to be honest good for you that's fine have preferences like
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i just have my preference and big labia you know what if she has a big labia i'll accept the hip
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tips yeah but we're like fronting i mean like it's actually proven data that like the men that
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are on like dating apps that are short they do not get any play like at all well that's weird
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because dating apps are for sure the number one way to get play so maybe they're not trying hard
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enough there's also that there's also the whole point of the short king hashtag i mean because
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like shorter guys are kind of attractive and they can have like machismo um they are the perfect
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eating height so let me ask if you i don't know if you have hip dips but let's say the guy was
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not pleased with your hips and you rejected you because of your hips would you be okay with that
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yeah i'd be like you'd accept it well you have this you have some sort of hip surgery going on
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or something no all right what about you i have a question for you all right how many podcast
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guests have you slept with oh wow why is that relevant what he reminded me when you were
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talking about it wait what that's not relevant to the question he's what does that have to do
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i'm a virgin first of all i've never told a virgin um i think she might have some slight
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interest in you because this isn't the first question like do you want to try to do a picture
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and everything is that what you are you actually a virgin though yes look i'll take one for the
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team we can fuck after the show if that's what you're asking and i'm like average down there
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so like the virginesis i think it'll be okay we'll make it work we can we can use some lube if you
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want i'll make it i'll make it work for someone to be asexual you talk a lot about sex i met another
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asexual who's like that i think like sexual people just don't understand but but so what are you
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trying to get at i'm confused i was just curious is that okay these girls are freak nasty and they
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i imagine not much are you inquiring for yourself no do you have a big labia
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what about you okay here you got to scoot into the table you're too far back are you autistic
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I feel like that was my third warning huh I feel like that was my third warning
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he hasn't distributed the cards you're doing good you're doing good you're all right yeah
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um no but are you like uh actually autistic I don't know
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I can't tell if she's autistic or if she's
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If you have a big labia, we can fuck after the show
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I see all these women getting very upset about the hip dip thing online, and apparently you guys are all pretty cool with the hip dip rejection thing.
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Or you guys just don't want to bite on this subject.
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I only date women with big labia and no hip dips, okay?
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Although if they have a big labia, I guess they can have hip tips, so I don't know.
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I'm actually an activist against OnlyFans and porn.
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and well you do only fans yeah it's unfortunate okay so we got three of girls here they do porn
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you're against porn yes uh okay go ahead dunk on them for a few minutes i'm gonna get up
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give it to me okay now i'm in the spotlight yeah um okay so uh i'm like an act i'm an activist
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against um only fans and adult content creation um i'm working on a non-profit i think it's
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important to spread education, especially you're all pretty young. So I think, um, it's, it's an
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industry that causes a lot of harm, especially to children, um, and, uh, adults physiologically as
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well. Um, so yeah, I mean, I just, I guess I'll just state my point, which is that exactly.
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Have you already started your nonprofit or are you beginning it now?
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No, yeah. Like I'm in the, I'm in the early stages. Yeah.
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I don't know. Early, early, early stages. I do agree in a sense where it can be glorified a lot
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in the industry. And I always try to be very honest and upfront with other women and also
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with myself in the industry. I even posted like online of like my body dysmorphia and when I went
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through anorexia and stuff like that. So like I just like put it out there like, hey, it's not as
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easy as it seems or it's not as perfect as it seems. Like we all go through struggles. I do
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love the what I do love about it is that there are people in the world that don't have partners
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or have situationships or maybe religion that gets in the way as well and I like that I'm giving a
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fantasy or a basically a satisfaction to those people that can't just have a partner or things
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are complicated and that gives them a way to um kind of like have something but without like
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cheating or anything what do you have to say to the fact that about 50 percent of those people
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your fans are married men and that we don't even have a number for who for how many men are actually
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in relationships but aren't married and can i briefly have a follow-up question that do you
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thus feel satisfied when you have someone you said religion who's in a religion has a faith
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and breaks their their faith to look at you i rather them break their faith in this way than
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another way and hurt somebody else yes but i don't know why oh sorry can i um i don't know why you
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guys are blaming her for what the men are doing um i'm not blaming i'm asking questions yeah
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would you rather a man break his faith and religion and murder someone or jerk off to
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only fans uh so that's a red hearing so i'm not going to respond to that um my my point is that
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i think the and no you're right it is partially on the men as well to you know engage in this
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material but you know there is some responsibility on the women here too like for creating the
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content but not for knowing about each man's situation that's what i'm saying oh yeah yeah
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but there was another didn't you say that as long as you've been forgiven god is okay with that
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but you can't keep asking you can't you can't keep doing it like when you you sit you go and
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sin no more so if like for example um nala ray i think she was a only fan star i think she was on
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the show actually um she gave her life to christ and no longer makes that content anymore so yeah
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she would be forgiven in god's eyes yeah but i think we talk a lot about uh the children and
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all the harm that's done to and and i think that that's important but i don't think that we talk
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enough about what she's saying which is the harm that's being done to these men in these sexless
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marriages because wives don't are too stuck up like i mean seriously i think but that's that's
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when they need to seek therapy therapy therapy themselves and not go to like an outer source
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like only fans or porn or any kind of like adult entertainment that's the total corruption within
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the relationships it's that you know um depending on the like the age genre of the men like a men
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who are probably maybe 40 or 50 older in their generation they weren't taught to be in therapy
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they were taught be a man or you're a pussy i don't agree with that it's older than that
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the 40 year olds are the ex-gen and what are the ones that kicked off the emotions and the
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that's just an excuse then for now because now you're exposed to so many different resources
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that you can use within your relationship so to say that i wasn't exposed to that like growing up
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it's not really an excuse what about the wife going to therapy because she made a commitment
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to submit her body to this man and then every single day you get these wives get rejected i i
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literally we had a podcast about this and me and i think we talk a lot about what the man um is doing
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to the woman and we're not talking enough about what these women in these marriages who trick
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their man into being with them give them a little taste of whatever that is and then say oops sorry
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then that's and then you you basically beat him across the head when he goes to an only fans but
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listen I didn't like I know you looked at me when you said trick to him I didn't trick him I just
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expressed that I was following a faith now and he had every decision to leave me we weren't married
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we have no obligation or anything so he had every choice he had every opportunity to leave but he
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is choosing to stay in the relationship so I mean yeah so I would just say like you see the sexual
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frustration and aggression that your partner gives to you just from not having sex and that
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release that like multiple men around the world get from our content is stopping them from from
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it being unplugging their computer dopamine receptors yeah to doing something more you know
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what i'm saying like sexual frustration is a really it's not the tool it's the person it's
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not the gun it's the person it's not the porn it's the person it's not the weed it's the person
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So if the person is going to need that sexual release, that's something they should have understood in the beginning.
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And if the woman's not willing to reciprocate, that's got to be discussed.
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Like once joy and happiness has left the building, why are you still in it?
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But why are we commodifying something that is doing harm, like creating massive harm to society?
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Well, we commodify things that are doing harm to society all the time.
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It is the part, I think the important part is, why are men doing this?
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And a lot of times they're doing it is because we have completely taken sexual access away from them.
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When we feel like it, when we don't want to, oh, we don't like this, or oh, we don't like that.
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And if the man reciprocates, he has no place to go.
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You're looking at a grown 40-year-old saying, you need to go to therapy?
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So are you guys talking like, okay, a woman's married to a man and she stops having sex with him?
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And wait, so your response was the man should go to therapy?
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No, I said therapy was something that was accessible to relationships these days.
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The actual argument she's making is that porn is making it worse for relationships.
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And it's up to the person, if they value the relationship, to recognize, okay, I'm not getting my needs met.
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Men still consume porn in healthy marriages.
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They still consume porn in marriages that have sex.
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So there's this argument that, oh, only men in sex.
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I'm not saying you are, but it sounds like what you're saying is only men in unhealthy, sexless marriages are the ones watching porn.
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Plenty of men are watching porn while married, while in healthy, stable relationships.
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In a marriage, though, does the wife have an obligation or duty to have sex with her husband?
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meeting her husband's needs i watched the episode where the girl was saying um to candace owens and
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she said hey what if your man likes to get pegged and candace owens was like oh well he needs therapy
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i'm like we can't be so stuck up in these relationships because and then then crucify
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the man for saying hey i want freak nasty sex i don't want your missionary sex wait hold on i
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I think if a dude is dating a girl and he wants to be pegged, I think it's okay for the girl to say no to that.
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Now, look, I think there's, I mean, look, everyone's going to have a different threshold.
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okay, well, I don't know, the guy wants something
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like if the guy has like foot stuff or something.
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Then at that point, then he should be allowed to watch porn
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If she doesn't want to, then yeah, let her, let him,
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I have to go to the intro, I have to go to the intro
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Um, really men, so if women have an obligation to have sex in the marriage, I think men then
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have an obligation to not consume porn and to, no, I don't agree with that. If you go back and
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remember that back in caveman days before everything was modern, the role for the man
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Look, I think in terms of what the man should do,
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And so, but in that scenario, if you're in a relationship as a guy, I do think that porn is detrimental.
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I don't have, like, look, if you're a single guy, I think porn can be bad if you're single in the sense that it's preventing you from finding the motivation to actually go get a girlfriend or go get, you know.
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But I don't do this huge pearl clutching thing where it's like, okay, if a guy like watches 20, 30 minutes of porn while he's masturbating, I don't really care.
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From like a more societal perspective, like overall is porn bad?
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I think there is a bit of catastrophizing related to it.
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I think some of the fears about porn are a bit overstated.
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like a guy who's just like, okay, he's masturbating three times a week. He watches
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porn for 20 minutes each time. Is he going to like completely fry his brain? No. But you got
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a gooner like this girl next to me, who's just, you call yourself a gooner. If you're just gooning
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out hours a day and you're addicted to it and it's prevent, like you're just, it's preventing you
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from pursuing a relationship, trying to find a girlfriend, you're getting your fulfillment
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in that way, then that can be an issue. Uh, so I kind of land a little bit like overall,
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yeah, porn's bad. Like it's bad for a lot of reasons, but, um, well, sure. Okay. If you're
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not actively having sex with a, with a partner, then I think masturbation is okay. But if you
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have a girlfriend who wants to fuck you and you guys live in the same, like you should fuck your
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girlfriends and you should save that for your girl, because there is a phenomenon where if
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you're too into the porn you're not going to be able like there's that visual component and who
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knows maybe she's like fucking prude and she wants the lights off or some shit now hopefully she's
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not like that and she's like you can look at my butthole if you want whatever doggy style but
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there are some women who you know they want the lights off and you're so porn brained it's like
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you can't even get hard unless you're like looking at like 300 different large labias at the same
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Well, I would argue that if you don't like your woman or don't want to have sex with your woman and while you're watching porn, I would argue you don't like her.
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You know, I would argue you don't really like her.
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And I think a lot of people get together and they shouldn't even be with people.
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You can look at a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a man who's tired of fucking her.
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now look okay you know maybe that's that's a bit you know whatever but i think uh i don't know
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where i'm going but a lot of these women are not likable a lot of these what a lot of these wives
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to brian's point is like they're prudes i mean like seriously but obviously pegging is i believe
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that the only fans girl was using the extreme example but like he said foot things or boop
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things or largely like i mean like stuff like that what if your woman wants you to masturbate
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a turn on. You're saying a lot of these women
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doggy style masturbation oral what if it's well here i mean sort of related to that
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like if a girl just offered me a hand job and that's it i'd be like wait help me out with this
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okay i'm gonna say nah and then you're gonna use a word only you can say ready okay if a girl was
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like brian no sex no head but i'll i'll give you a hand job i'd be like nah wait no you can say it
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So you're saying you could, you know, be with a woman
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like didn't move didn't moan didn't do anything like you can wait well i'm not sure what that
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has to wait because you're saying like like sex like if it was like on the table you shouldn't
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need to masturbate so you're saying you would fully not want to masturbate even if it was like
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okay so your question your question is well brian um let's say that the girl you're with
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is bad in bed or starfish or is not you know whatever um but your relationship is great
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you're you're asking would you not want to masturbate in the instance yeah but she still
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wants to have sex yeah okay first off that's a code i think sex is not something like in terms
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of your ability at it it's not typically something you're just like perma stuck at
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in perpetual shittiness i think especially as a man now if you're a woman and you're more and
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you're a submissive woman it's going to be very difficult for you to have good sex with a man
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who's bad with bad at sex because you don't want to have to teach a guy how to fuck you but
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if you're a guy and you know you have experience you know what you're doing you can take a virgin
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you can take a girl who maybe is inexperienced or even if she is experienced but she's just
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fucking terrible in bed by the way it's very hard for a woman to be bad in bed but if you know what
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you're doing as a guy i think you can take pretty much any girl as long as she is open-minded and
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has some degree of enthusiasm you can have great sex with her so also like look if you know what
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you're doing, you can put the woman where she needs to be. So the sex is good for you. Um,
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I mean, unless she just doesn't know how to arch or physically can't, some women got back. I got
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back problems. I get it. Some women can't arch, but if you can arch, you can, you don't even need
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to look, this is the difference in sex between men and women. So, uh, and this is why it's harder
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to be good in bed as a man and it's really easy for women to be good in bed you don't have to do
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much so okay here and here's the physiological difference right so let me ask you I guess I'll
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ask you guys I can put a woman in doggy style and she cannot move at all as long as she's in the
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right position like she's not um how I don't know how to as long as she's got to be you know okay
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I don't know. If she can put herself in the right position, she can be completely immobile,
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not move a centimeter and I can climax with her. You women, most women put a man in the exact
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perfect position, but he doesn't move. Most women probably can't get themselves to climax,
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whether she's on top or whatever position that is. Now some women can, but most women can.
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So men have to, in order for women to achieve orgasm, assuming they can even do so through intercourse,
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it takes a bit more of an active participation from the man.
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So most women, if the guy was just like, he was erect, you know, and just laid there,
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most women would not be able to get off, I think.
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So I don't know where I was going with that.
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it's harder for men to be good in bed so it's super easy for a woman to be good enough in bed
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okay like i i don't think y'all understand sex is not a complicated procedure as a guy once you've
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had sex plenty of times it's not we don't need to do fucking standing inverted upside down
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crazy shit you can just just go with the flow it's just hot take i won't date a man if he
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some crazy throwing it back back flip shit like just know how to be put yourself in doggy style
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yeah honestly like most 99 of guys will be pretty happy like they'll be fine so i don't know where
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i was going with that though you're quite oh if the would you still be happy your question was
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would you still be happy if the woman starfish first off i give great instruction so i would
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tell her I would teach her gently I'm a good teacher I'm not like a dick about it I would
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I would give her guidance I would I would guide her through the process I'd tell her
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say this do this move like you know I'd um so in this case I could I would I could take a virgin
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and have great sex with her okay so the starfish thing not a concern for me no porn or masturbation
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needed all you need to be all you need to be as a woman is open-minded and have some baseline
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enthusiasm like we don't want a girl who's like if you're enthusiastic and you're open-minded and
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you follow our lead follow our instruction we can have great sex if the guy knows what he's doing
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yeah so yeah anyways whatever i heard that men want doggy style so that they don't have to look
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at a woman and they can objectify her no well that would be the case if we were to have sex but
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she is freak nasty y'all let me tell you don't don't believe the hype so so first off um this
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is some feminist nonsense no a man told me a man told me that okay well he's retarded
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so so doggy style um doggy style is not i suppose some men might use it to not have to look at you
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in the face I guess although there's other positions where you need not be like be able
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to see the woman woman's face um but uh no it's not for that reason what was the other thing
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objectifying yeah he also told me not to come on the podcast like a few days ago and he told me
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you can do better than that woman hater okay all right well uh so I that guy I uh I don't
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consider myself a woman hater i'm not a misogynist i love women uh just because i often disagree with
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them doesn't necessarily mean that but no i i would never see you know it's interesting when
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what you see online is women not just to be clear i'm not saying all women many feminists
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are very happy to take on the label and moniker of misandrist man hater they're happy saying men
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are trash uh men suck they're happy saying you know they'll say i hate men i hate all men etc
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i've there's hundreds if not thousands of hours of me on this podcast you will never find an
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instance of me ever ever saying i hate women women suck women are trash never said it i've
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never said it don't believe it uh i think women are great um i well there's there's certain general
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like dating things that I have disagreements on and I have my worldview in my own perspective,
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but I don't, there's no like gender hatred for women. If there's like viewers who are just
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being misogynist, like actual misogynist, I completely disavow it. I don't want any of my
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viewers to have like a, just a general baseline hatred for women. I find that extremely objectionable.
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But so yeah, this idea that I'm a woman hater because I have like some slight leanings toward
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a traditional mindset when it comes to dating completely ridiculous and yeah sometimes i've
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get into like arguments on the show with women sometimes i've been upset but like i can be
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upset with a man that wouldn't make me a misandrist but women on the other hand who are feminists who
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again not all women uh women happily take on the moniker misandrist men hater men are trash they
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do all this sort of thing so uh is that your contention though that i when rachel wilson
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came on the show um she said the podcast does a lot of good things and then i waited for her to
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say what it does and she was like it shows that women are crazy women are crazy and that's what
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she kept saying so the goal of the podcast would be to expose or show that women are crazy how would
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that hold on how does any of that logically follow okay so my podcast rachel wilson has been on a
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guest sometimes she was saying one of the good things and i i think you may have misquoted
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it slightly one of the good things that um about the podcast is that it's and this is her words
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not mine so your contention here would be with rachel wilson not whatever podcast brian atlas
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but why didn't you say anything and she was next to you i think no she was actually back
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andrew yeah and i was right there and i'm responsible so i'm responsible for the words
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that come out of my mouth. I invite people on. Some of them have a stronger leaning towards
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being in agreement with some or most of my views. That doesn't mean that I co-sign every single
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thing. For example, Andrew and Rachel are Orthodox Christians. I have pro-Christian
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sentiment, but I'm agnostic. So they have an Orthodox outlook, an Orthodox Christian worldview.
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But even the titles of the videos, like Rachel Wilson, they're about Rachel Wilson winning the
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argument i think i mean so how okay how would that be evidence of misogyny i mean you would
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have written them right not necessarily but sometimes i do write the titles but how would
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rachel wilson dunks on how would that be misogyny okay here let's do this we got to define our terms
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so we're not talking past each other how do you define misogyny i didn't define it i didn't say
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it he's asking me how i don't know what is it okay hold on you use the term woman hater okay
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yeah what is a misogynist a woman hater i guess okay so but so how are we defining misogyny then
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um is it the hatred of women strictly i mean you weren't talking about the hatred of women just now
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you said i've never said you said you're you were with a friend a male friend who said don't go on
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the podcast he's a woman hater blah blah i don't i assume you probably agree i don't know why he
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said that because i don't know anything about you but i do recall like you were just saying i've
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never said anything about women and that's not true and now you're saying so do you agree what
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hold on you just completely i'm sorry okay sorry i said i have thousands of hours of live unfiltered
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unedited live streams online you cannot go back to any moment and ever find an instance of me
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ever saying the following i hate women or women are trash or women suck i've never said any of
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those things right never said it ever i don't consider myself a misogynist i would reject the
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label i wouldn't accept i wouldn't give myself the moniker i wouldn't give myself the label
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and i would reject the label if somebody tried to attribute it to me also why was drianna six
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to abandoned blocked from the whatever podcast where okay this is so not relevant to what's
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going on like this girl is like just all over the place sorry i should explain she debated with
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Rachel Wilson. That's how I know about that. So she wasn't banned from the podcast. I don't know
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where you're getting your information from. She was blocked from me. She was blocked because she
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was being, well, hold on. Um, she was blocked because by the way, mind you, Drayna, she would
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delete comments on her Instagram. She was deleting comments on her, her Instagram. She was blocking
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people. So what she was doing is under my reels on my personal IG, she was being, what's the best
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word for it? Let's say insulting and aggravating towards me. So I have the autonomy to be able to
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moderate like egregiously insulting comments directed towards me on my Instagram. So she,
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I've, and mind you, this is months ago. So I'm interfacing with like hundreds of people a month.
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I can't give you off the top of my head some of the things she was saying she was just being like
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obnoxiously egregious in my instagram comments so I I restricted her and then she wanted to go
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on and say oh well you're doing this mind while she was outright blocking and deleting any negative
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comment on any of her content so she's a total hypocrite if she has a criticism of me oh brian
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you blocked me. I blocked her because she was like being really vicious. And it's like for
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in my perspective, what did she say or do? I literally, are you retarded? I just told you
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it was months ago and I do not recall. Open your ears and try to listen to what I'm saying.
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I don't recall. I'm sure I have the screenshots. Maybe they're somewhere on my discord.
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In any case though, what is your actual objection? You keep switching the topic here. Why don't we
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try to stay on track drayna happened months ago i don't know what you're trying to get at yeah and
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you said that hold on let's let her respond no i just when i watched the debate between them i
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actually followed both of them because they're beautiful but like anyway i was just saying like
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it seemed to be that rachel wilson was exposing this podcast but um now you you cleared that up
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for me. Rachel. Okay. So can we try to get back to the point at hand? I'm done. Sorry. Okay. So
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you were saying that Rachel was sitting next to me and she was saying things and you're,
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it was logically incoherent. It did not follow. What can you repeat the point you made about what
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Rachel was saying? And I think your final point was she was on the podcast. She was saying things.
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therefore the purpose of the podcast is to x i mean i thought she was like um different from i
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mean a regular guest so okay but can you repeat your point so why was she on the show i was that
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was not your question i'm now now it is what oh my gosh are you retarded sorry i'm done um yeah i
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guess you're asking why rachel wilson wasn't why are you on the show i don't know why am i can i
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asked that of any of the guests here why are they on the show i don't understand so what are you
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suggesting that rachel wilson should not be on the show no i was just curious why okay so how is that
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relevant to the discussion at hand okay it's not i don't know why are oh my god you know it's
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difficult to argue with someone who's intelligent but it's very very difficult to argue with someone
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who's just i think you're trolling honestly who's being stupid intentionally um okay so what was
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your point about rachel wilson i don't think i had one you did have one i mean i have debates
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with her but she's not here so yeah you said that she said that you that she did that this show does
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some good you said that she she didn't respond to what good the show does but she did i watched
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the exact same episode i didn't finish because she kept saying that so i stopped well you just
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accused her of something that you know that i just said i heard what she said before that and then
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you actually not so what i got from the conversation is that you didn't like what
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rachel had to say and brian didn't negate what she said so you're pairing him up with her saying
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i wrongly did that yeah and and she actually it's expounded on what she said she said that this show
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exposes what the dating market is like for a lot of guys and a lot of guys are not aware of some
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of the things that a lot of women talk about and this is very very important because and i say this
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on my podcast 50 percent in the african-american community 50 percent of men are childless and
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without never been married like that's a problem because we will not exist if they're not getting
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married and so it's a good thing so if men know what is going on i think it's important for women
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please continue with your point i think it's important for women to recognize um
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when criticism is at them when they're being criticized it's not an attack on who they are
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it's just questioning what they do and that doesn't mean that they hate you but you have to
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be open to recognizing who you are as a person right and if if uh if rachel's questioning you
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And she says, you're dumb, you're disillusioned, or you're delusional, maybe there's a grain of truth in that.
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And instead of reacting defensively, think, oh, well, why would she say that?
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All right, we have a message here from Dr. Tipped.
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She's not supposed to, or not taking drugs.
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We were talking about it, but I didn't get to say it.
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You've got to try to stay on the topic at hand.
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Bro, bro, you're not going to do a thing where if you're going to switch the topic,
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You definitely don't get to switch it again after I've granted your switch.
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So we're going to stick for now on your disagreement here, which seems to be that you think, and I think you did write in the notes, you think the whatever podcast is sexist.
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You did in fact write that the whatever podcast is sexist.
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let's define the terms what is sexist or sexism sexism is you've actually talked about it when
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someone said um oh you said like just define it just define it okay um
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singling out a sex i'm just gonna say that i don't know singling out a sex maybe okay so how
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Why don't I propose something, and then you tell me if you agree.
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Sexism would be hatred, prejudice, or I suppose discrimination towards someone based on their sex.
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So based on if they're a man, based on if they're a woman.
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So now that we've defined the term, provide examples for me of how I or the whatever podcast is sexist.
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Can you stop playing with your necklace, please?
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Yeah, you definitely made yourself look stupid.
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Okay, so even if you did, I'm asking you to list it.
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So couldn't I actually forward a counter argument?
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So you're saying, Brian, the podcast is sexist because you just bring women on.
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Actually, couldn't this show that I have a reverence for women
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and that it's almost like a privilege that women get to come on the show but not men.
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you could argue that, Brian, you have a sexism against men because you aren't bringing men on
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at the same frequency that you bring women on. If anything, I'm platforming women. So when women
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don't get a platform, it's sexism. And when they do get a platform, it's also sexism. I'm going to
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have to reject your argument there that that is somehow sexist because I platform women. What
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else? I said that you make them look bad. I make women look bad. Okay. So first off,
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i'm going to have to disagree i don't make women look bad if a woman i i have a platform i have a
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microphone women choose to come on hold on women choose to come on the show if they choose to say
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something stupid uh it's not that i've made them look bad they've made themselves look bad yeah
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so how exactly am i like am i forcing you like you know when um i'm trying to think if you said
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something that made you look bad today everything have i've anything you've said today have i
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forced hold on anything you've said today so far have i forced you to say it we haven't
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answer the question no everything you've said so far you said out of free will in your own agency
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yes or no yes okay i did not tell nothing is scripted i didn't say you know i didn't tell
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you beforehand say this don't say that no excuse me okay so um how am i making women look stupid
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we haven't gotten to that part yet so okay but so explain how i'm making them look stupid
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by choosing the questions that they don't know when you ask them questions okay so you're
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referencing like the section at the end the rapid fire questions with the you know we'll ask basic
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geography questions and so but so again even if you even if it is true that this segment they look
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stupid in that segment how am i making them look stupid what is the goal okay so hold on the goal
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would sort of be irrelevant here so the question is here let me ask you a question um where what
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what country is berlin in germany but country is we're already doing it what country is is uh
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sao paulo and okay so i remembered one of my points what what what country is sao paulo
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in i it's probably like you're trying to find something i don't know answer the question
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you don't know the united states okay what country is rio de janeiro brazil okay what country is
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lima in peru okay what country is buenos aires and argentina okay she's got some decent geography
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now if a woman were to fail these questions though would that be me making her look stupid
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or does she just not know the answer to the question because you will not post this clip
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of me the ones that i knew you will post the one that well i might post the one where you
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know where what was it munich i think you didn't know where munich was or something you didn't know
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sao paulo you didn't know where sao paulo is so perhaps i'll post that just the one
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the one little thing but that's right so um how would that like so if um how would that be sexism
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i guess okay the one thing i was saying is that you said are men the problem so what is the problem
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when did i say that i'm bringing up the sexism you said the question are men the problem
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No, but that doesn't infer that I'm suggesting women are the problem.
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That's testing a woman to see if she does say men are the problem.
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Then if a woman says men are the problem, that would be an example of sexism against men.
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patriarchy because they're saying they want the patriarchy and men are the leaders and the leaders
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need to take responsibility for being the problem so if it's a patriarchy first of all what is the
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problem but like what i'm assuming men should take responsibility for all the problems because
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they're the leaders hold on you're you're assuming some premises you're assuming some things first
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off that were just never even asserted or stated so first off now you're trying to map my question
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about the question are men the problem is not a question as relates to patriarchy it's a general
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okay when women say men are the problem that is a sexist statement then the patriarchy is also
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sexist how does that follow because patriarchy means that men are the leaders uh there could
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be some interpretation that that sure if but we're not talking about patriarchy but there
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could be some interpretation that yes if a society decides to uh have male leadership
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superseding then you could from in terms of the definition of sexism you might say well this could
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be uh perhaps discriminatory or prejudice towards women perhaps but that has nothing to do with
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my point as it relates to asking a woman if she thinks men are the problem in general but i guess
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why would you call someone sexist if you are also sexist i would like to ask whoa but you haven't
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defined how he is is it relevant yeah i just said okay me i would like to just ask please we have
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so many other people that would love to share their opinion on his questions can you just let
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someone else speak your goddamn please well hold on so i'm going down okay perspectives and opinion
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you're not the host i'm i am engaging with her oh okay so this is good so this is good yeah
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yeah okay i'm being entertained and i just think it's interesting that you you beg to be on a show
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that you know i mean i would have but he invited me but it's a learning experience for everyone
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on this so it's okay okay so you're not the host back to this go ahead
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what was the question okay okay so i'm you're kind of evading here so how is the show sexist
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i just gave one example that's one that i just remembered sorry which is making i make women
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look stupid but how okay you one you'd have to actually find evidence or present evidence that
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i make women look stupid and then even if i did make women look stupid how would that necessarily
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prove sexism because you're specifically making women look stupid he doesn't make himself look
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dumb so if i disagree if he was not trying to make me look stupid he would have posted the
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whole thing or like yeah not necessarily so if if i disagree with a woman just because she's a woman
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is that sexist yes okay hold on to be clear um let me reframe the question because i think i
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worded that poorly if i have a disagreement with a woman is that sexist in and of itself
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to disagree with a woman the first one is the first the wrong thing well i well that's why
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if i disagree with her yes i phrased it i revised my statement yes if if i disagreed with her
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because she's a woman i would agree that would be sexist i misspoke there but if i disagree with a
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woman and she happens to be a woman is it sexist inherently just by a virtue of disagreeing no
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okay so a woman comes on the podcast and i make her look stupid you would have to provide evidence
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even if that's true i somewhat reject that that i'm doing so because she's a woman or to make
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women specifically look bad that's the impression that comes from all okay i'm not interested in
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impression i'm interested in evidence okay so you would have to there would have to be some evidence
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of me like saying something for example i do this segment because i want to make women look stupid
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because women are stupid, and they need to be shown to the world that they're stupid.
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Then you might have a compelling case to be made that that is sexist.
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In this case, though, the women who come on the show happen to be women,
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and we do a segment on the show where we ask these sort of,
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it's sort of a fun segment at the end where we ask questions about geography
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and, you know, trying to almost to lighten things up.
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But so this would not, let me ask you a question.
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If I was asking these questions to men, would I have sexism towards men?
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If I went on the street and I only asked it to men.
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The people on the street ask it to everyone, and I still like those.
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I don't think we're going to find common ground there.
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What else makes the podcast sexist besides the geography questions?
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like your questions in general about men and what there's a lot of talk about such as one
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okay just now these people were talking about men like more than i've ever heard anyone talk
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about men like this podcast talks about men more than i've heard on other shows um like what
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like other shows are you referencing any other show so it's a dating discussion podcast so
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we're not going to be talking about horticulture on the podcast we're not going to be talking about
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um like astrophysics on the podcast it's a dating podcast intersocial dynamics thus women are most
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of the women who come on the show most of the women in the united states are heterosexual
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their dating experiences involve men yeah so no i love men you i wrote that in the notes too okay
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but so how would that be sexist uh well now you explained it so okay next and you believe in
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content right like so a lot of the things you're referencing that he posted because he this is a
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business he has a show to entertain so it's not personal so is it like being forced are you being
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i might remember something didn't you go to school later okay guys allow her to respond uh i'm also
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oh i've heard you say that how's the podcast you're kind of i mean you might be kind of
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anti-establishment is that i mean i don't really i don't really delve too much into politics a
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little bit here and there no i mean about school i'm mostly about what school how would that be
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sexist no it's not sorry she just she just talked about that so i just got distracted okay but we're
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talking about sexism stay focused okay so how's the podcast sexist so far you've not presented
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anything compelling it's not it's not no well i mean look she can think it uh let's not uh
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so you i just changed your mind in the past 15 minutes yes and apologize sorry you you don't
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think it's sexist now yeah although you had like seven more bullet points they were probably from
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before they were they were also probably stupid probably oh okay if you if you don't remember
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it's not important right well i think look if you do you think donald trump's a fascist
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She was really entertaining about everyone on the internet.
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but see i don't want you to feel like you're getting bullied off of your position so if you
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do believe the podcast is sexist i'm sexist i'm open to hearing you out because this is your
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opportunity to make a case for your position i'm good really you just you just gonna it was it was
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a bit of pushback but really pretty tame you're just gonna btf get btfo just like that
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yeah are you a feminist yes you're a feminist so you're sexist perhaps and okay um do you think
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we should let me ask you a question you mentioned the patriarchy you think we should smash the
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patriarchy i'm just saying answer the question is the patriarchy bad let's start there
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hello you're a feminist wait you brought up the patriarchy i'm using your buzz feminist
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buzzwords is the patriarchy bad from a feminist perspective it actually depends i used to think
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it was bad but now it depends on the situation so like half the time i guess okay but so the
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patriarchy is what like i used to think that men had it better but now i think that like women
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women have better in some ways yeah or in total in totality in like reality if you're debating
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that's the thing like when i'm debating i'm um men have it better but like when i'm actually
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in reality like women have it better i think if that makes sense wait hold on so just to be clear
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even though in reality you do believe that women no in reality not in the reality in order to
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further your feminist ideology in your thoughts in order to further your wait in your thoughts
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doesn't reality inform your thoughts no it's different like wait so you're just perpetuating
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there is one you think rule by women would be superior to rule rule by men instead of i just
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like it like uh elephants elephants are matriarchy right elephants are a major okay i'm not familiar
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with the the arrangement of elephant social order isn't the family the hood is full of the
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matriarchy it doesn't work also i did write down that rating women is unnecessary i forgot what i
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okay did you i don't know we could get into that but uh okay so the rating thing rate the the
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rating thing is uh sexist but how about this women also assess men on their physical attractiveness
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too and see i think what you have to understand with the rating thing though zero to ten scale
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is you might say well boiling it down to this number thing is is objectionable but even a woman
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who uses yes or no, which I think is most people, well, I don't even know if most people do yes or
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no, because I think you can show a woman to men that they, she finds attractive and she will be
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able, she'll be able to decipher between which one is more attractive than the other, even though
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both are attractive. She could probably tell you that they're both attractive, but I prefer this
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one. So what you're immediately doing there is you're creating a hierarchy. I'm just, I'm just
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using language to attribute something to that hierarchy so a woman who finds one man more
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attractive than the other it goes beyond uh just the binary of yes or no um so i mean it's just
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giving a label to a thing that happens either subconsciously or consciously
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okay too over your head i guess i don't know but so okay the rating thing women assess men
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on all kinds of things looks personality um all kinds of other things men assess women on looks
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personality all kinds of other things so put trying to make it simple to parse that in a
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numerical way that isn't sexism that's just giving like trying to put a descriptor to a
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actual phenomenon that is happening which is rank ordering attractiveness
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over your head okay she's it's just glazed eyes i guess do you want to respond or
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am i just talking to a wall um no response why is ranking women women ranking themselves why is
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that sexist why is that bad why why do you think doing it on the show is bad i said it's unnecessary
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i circled i'm pretty sure i did nothing of interest no nothing of interest here um okay
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what else come on why am i sexist can anyone else add something like maybe they do though i mean i
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think you might have something right i have do you do you think i'm a sexist or no disagreements
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with the podcast i don't really think you're sexist at all i think that like people just
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you you give them math questions it's the same thing of taking a test we're not all gonna know
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knowledge that's right i'm a math teacher and then or sometimes we're gonna feel dumb like
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sometimes we're you know it happens i laugh at it i think it's funny it's it's it makes it
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entertaining you know like holy crap i didn't realize we didn't know this like trivia that
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friend of yours it does she have disagreements with the podcast or who is she she's much smarter
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than me she's very smart but yeah we weren't really in touch with her i just met her today
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Let's see if there's anything else on this.
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If men can be blamed for all of society's failures
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because patriarchy has given men all the power and responsibility,
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can't men be given can't men be giving full credit for all of society's successes because
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the patriarchy has given men all the power and responsibility mr northumberland thank you for
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the super chat well put what do you think about that so if men are to blame for all of society's
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ills or men also to be credited for uh all the bounty of society they already are
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not really i actually think there's like robust contempt and disdain and resentment from like
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large swaths of women who want to like forward this but why does it matter if it's patriarchy
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why does it matter what the women think well hold on so it's not a strict patriarchy in the sense
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that there are women who are i mean you need to pick you need to pick one or the other that's
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what what do you know no no it's not a one or the other patriarchy is a system that involves
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everybody i mean it's just not like we we well we obviously don't have a particularly strict
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patriarchy and it's certainly there's no law that enforces a patriarchy for example women are allowed
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to run for office that women are allowed to have uh positions in various companies that they can
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be ceos there's not some law that's like because because we're like a patriarchal society we're
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going to en masse prevent women from occupying managerial positions, executive positions in
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major corporations. No law prevents women from occupying positions in the private sector or
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the public sector. So women can run for president. They can run for public office. Many politicians
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are women. Many women are elected to various positions in the government. So we don't have
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like a particularly strict patriarchy with asterisk we should have i guess i was hoping for
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a more strict debate so well so okay i mean so but so now you're you're doing a you're moving
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off of the whatever podcast is sexist to like generally in society it's like leaning more
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towards a patriarchal structure but not like a completely exclusively strictly patriarchal
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structure which completely precludes women from positions of power or from uh both in the private
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and public sector what seemed like the whatever podcast was asking for a strict patriarchy when
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um when i said but then you said you weren't part of that you're talking about like rachel
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and andrew who aren't here yeah sorry who make occasional appearances on the yeah sorry podcast
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i just changed my mind after that because of that so yeah okay so you think the whatever
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podcast is super feminist and egalitarian i mean i liked it and i think it's entertaining
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okay so do you are you conceding on the point yes so the whatever podcast is not sexist whatever
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podcast is not sexist all right from the horse's mouth i don't i think i think she still thinks
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it's sexist but i i think she doesn't want to engage further on it because thus far she's not
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Does anyone have any other disagreements with me, though?
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I don't really watch the show, so I don't know everything.
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but i saw that you had said that you wouldn't date a girl that had done only fans or porn
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or made adult content but you don't have like a general like issue with it i think you said
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something along the lines of like it what you wouldn't personally want to be in a relationship
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with a person but you didn't necessarily have like a problem with it being uh commodified and
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um you know there's many hundreds and thousands of hours of me speaking on the show and so i can't
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recall precisely everything i've said but uh i can't say this generally speaking it is i have
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strong preference against dating a woman who does or has done more stronger for like currently
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actively does OnlyFans. Look, I think my position on it used to be a bit weaker. I was like, you
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know, as long as she hasn't done boy-girl content, maybe. Then it became much stronger to the point
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like, don't care even if she's just doing fucking bikini shit, whatever. Wouldn't date a girl who
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does OnlyFans. My position currently as it stands is much closer to that. I have not dated a woman
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who does OnlyFans. I've not hooked up with a woman who does OnlyFans. So that's kind of my
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current position on it. Now, look, if Sophie Rain, who is lying about pretty much everything about
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her life, you know, came along, there may be a temptation there, not because she's, look,
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she's attractive, but not because I think her attraction is a bit overstated. Yeah, I think
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You walk around any college campus and you'll see women who mog the shit out of Sophie Reign.
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I would probably do it for the clout, you know?
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But no, I think that's not really what you're getting at.
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Would I or would I not date an OnlyFans girl?
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Maybe there's a really hot one who might catch my eye.
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And she'd probably have to quit that shit.
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um your thing is though more so that what the my porn position yeah do you have like because from
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the clip it sounded like well you had said like you you i i don't want to misquote you so i'm not
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going to say exactly but it was something along the lines of you know like uh you're fine with
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it happening like in society uh it happens in society and like more of a societal like
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neutral stance or in or yeah more of a neutral like societal stance i don't think i said that i
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i think maybe what you're alluding to is i've said on the show i don't really care to have the
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porn bad conversation like i find it kind of boring yeah on the show i don't really care i
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don't think anything's going to change really uh well maybe it will but um like i find the actual
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debate like the porn bad debate super boring because it's like okay they do only fans you're
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not going to change their mind they're just going to continue being degenerate porn girls they're
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not going to like and like i don't know it's just like i don't think we're going to ban porn like i
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think it's politically tenable i don't think it's going to happen it seems kind of pointless do i
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think now if you ask me do i think porn in general is a is it an overall good or an overall bad i
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would say it's overall bad for society i would disagree on the point that uh you don't think
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that it will be banned or you know whatever you said um i think um i think historically blanket
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bans aren't super effective, like prohibition in the 1920s, for example. But I think it is a
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potential, especially like slowly through like restrictions and things like that, like smaller
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education, smaller steps towards eventual total ban. Yeah, I mean, so ultimately, I feel like I
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almost even stated my point earlier though so overall i would say that pornography is bad for
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society i think it's bad for the individual woman producing it it's bad for the man consuming it
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it's bad for the people who are exposed to it uh it's overall a net negative for society however
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i think i i think it's going to be a very uh difficult path to uh banning it i think you
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can put out social messaging to push men to limit or stop their consumption of it. You can push
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women to not be producing it or even consuming it themselves. But ultimately, I just find the
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conversation a bit boring, to be honest. I mean, that's pretty much it. I guess that's why do you
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call them degenerate porn girls? Well, it is degeneracy. It is degenerate, I guess. Producing
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porn it is yeah i just i i i'm i have an issue with that because here are these women that found
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themselves for whatever reason into this position that they feel like it was their only out and i'm
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just not comfortable with like i have a different take on themselves please let her finish yeah i'm
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not comfortable with like kind of be i maybe because i'm a christian i believe that we're
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all made in the image of god and for whatever reason they find themselves doing porn or only
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fans and i was just speaking to what is your name annika annika and and she said that she did that
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and i said rahab was in the lineage of jesus and and rahab really found herself i don't know why
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she was there but god used her and so i'm not comfortable with the way society looks at these
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women and call them degenerate not you i'm sorry i'm not attacking you well hold on that's fine
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now here's what's complicated about what you've just said though so mind you i'm approaching the
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porn conversation not from a religious one even though i have pro-christian sentiment um i'm not
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i'm not an anti-theist i'm not an atheist i'm agnostic um my objections to porn are not there's
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no religious basis or foundation for it they're completely secular objections but you you said
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you're a christian you definitely have a religious foundation for objecting to porn and women doing
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porn more so than even i do so i guess i'm confused why you're going on the defense
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like it's obviously like porn is inconsistent with christianity agree agree right and so as
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a christian you should you should attempt to have a world surrounding you that is in alignment with
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christianity so you should be combating degeneracy and pornography is it is in completely contradictory
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to christianity i believe christians shouldn't do porn but a lot of people that are doing porn
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not just christians though i mean that's what i'm saying i believe that a lot of christians
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expect non-christians to act christian and i just don't agree with that you can disagree with what
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someone does they don't have to be a degenerate agree you can say this does not follow along
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god's will and but when you call someone a degenerate that's unchristian like i think it's
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like not necessarily labeling the person as a degenerate but more more so i mean i didn't i
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didn't say the word but more of like the no he had mentioned it uh originally and i said and i said
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I think it's because the action itself is a degenerative action, not only to themselves, but also to society as a whole.
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So, and then also, really quickly, I was previously an absurdist, atheist, existentialist.
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And so, I would still, I was still against pornography.
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So when I argue it now, same with like the pro-life argument, I try to always argue these points from a secular point of view.
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I don't think Christianity has to dominate the argument against porn.
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I think you can make the argument without Christianity.
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And I don't think that has to necessarily guide your worldview to see that it is a wrong.
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Yeah, but in the Bible, if you're a Christian believer, and I am Christian, but I also believe the Bible.
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And the Bible says sexual immorality is the sin that one does to its own body.
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And I feel like we spend a lot of time attacking people about the sex that they're having.
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And you're not condemning all the degeneracy that goes on when people steal, when they kill, when they hurt other people.
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And so to look at Christians bother me when they say that.
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And so I don't know why you found yourself trying to do that or why you believe that you have to do that.
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But like you said, calling them degenerate, I hope you bring that same energy with the other degenerate things that are done in this.
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So I think that's kind of a red herring only because we're not talking about like the stealing, the lying.
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So and I would still consider lying, stealing, all these things, degenerate activities.
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But we're specifically focused on the conversation of pornography.
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agree and it's not and i i don't know what you said exactly but something about what people do
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well it's not like what they do the bible says what they do to their own body so you're saying
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like what they do behind closed doors is that what you're trying sexual immorality is the only sin
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in which one does to its own body other sins like stealing lying committing fornication you are
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doing that to hurt other people i um so i slightly disagree with that only because you disagree with
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the bible no i disagree with you the way that okay hold on i disagree with the way that you
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are framing that in the sense that sexual immorality in the sense of pornography so like
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you're not doing that behind a closed door you're not it's not like you are public you are um
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publicizing it and commodifying it so it does affect other people it's not just you're um it's
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affecting other people not in the sense of maybe their uh sexual immorality to themselves like like
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the bible says but it's still um affecting other people and we can't deny that it has a collective
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effect i believe that smoking has affects other people i believe so so that's what i'm saying
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is there are a lot of behaviors that that affect people and hurt people and so when you look at
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these beautiful women god bless i don't know why you felt like you had to do that but they're made
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in the image of god i don't like calling them degenerate porn girls it bothers me what would
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you like to call them what would you like to label these women as why do they have to be labeled i
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could tell you there's a lot of degenerate people that don't do only fans i could tell you there's
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a lot of degenerate wives that that probably should be called degenerate wives because of
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some of the things they do to their husband let's categorize like how would you yeah wait hold on
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it's super simple i think i can parse this super easily from a christian perspective uh can you be
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can you participate in things that are sexually immoral no no no no no no i'm not saying do you
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have permission to i'm saying can people engage oh yes like do people engage in sexual immorality
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yes do people who engage in sexual immorality are they degenerate is that degeneracy yes
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Okay, is it to be morally corrupt, is that degenerate?
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Is producing pornography morally, sexually amoral?
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Okay, then it is fair to call pornographers degenerate because they're engaging in sexual immorality.
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As it's framed to Christianity, and I'll tell you.
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Right, but so it's fair to call it, like it would meet the definition of degenerate or degeneracy.
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to refer to pornographers women who do only fans who do porn who participate in porn
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as degenerates on the flip side much like somebody who okay sorry go ahead on the flip
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side i was a preteen and came across my dad's whole porn collection multiple multiple uh i
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watch it like it was national geographic i discovered sexuality i mean i didn't touch
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myself i didn't masturbate to them but i watched what people do and i'd say like i failed as a
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slut i couldn't be a slut if i tried but it certainly made me a sexual person i so okay not
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sure how that's relevant objection objection relevance reclaiming my time we're moving we're
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moving on to a different nope moving on to a different topic no no i i already what no no i
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I was just going to say what she was saying earlier was that when you said that, why OnlyFans feel like they have to, just for me, this is for me and me only, I never felt like I had to, I wanted to.
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Yeah, and there's a song that came out, a recent song that says, you know, like boosting and stuff like that.
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Whatever reason people do that, I just don't like calling them that.
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I don't think it helps to call people degenerate and then say, we want to help you.
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I think we're categorizing what they do, the activity.
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Uh, okay. Sorry to hear that. Um, do you want to just get some fresh air? Maybe that'll help.
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Okay. So I, we're live guys, so I got to bring it back to the topic at hand.
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So, um, okay, let's move on to a different topic. Um, I'm trying to recall where we were at.
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I don't believe that anybody is actual black
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so you're not black. No, I'm un-black. Maybe I'm, I'm confused, but that's fine.
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Okay. But you are red pilled. What do you mean by red pill? So, um, I, I watched the matrix and I
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understand, I had never heard the whole red pill movement before, but you take the red pill if you
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want to know the truth. And so I've been propagandized my entire life and I'm literally
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now starting probably at 40 starting to see the world a little bit different and and that's why
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i say i took the red pill and you're an ex-democrat now patriot yes in like rapid bullet point maybe
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give us like three bullet point fashion like tell us the quick like going from democrat to
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your i'm assuming conservative republican republican uh patriot like bullet point what
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what was the quick journey yeah um so i lived in i'm from brooklyn new york and then i lived in my
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adult life in virginia lived in north carolina and it's really easy to um say all of these
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wonderful things that can happen to to to city if you give all your money away um when you're in
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those areas and i recently when i turned uh in my later age i moved to maryland and when you have to
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be dropped into a state that does all the things that you thought you were wonderful it's the
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quickest red pill ever and so I listened to President Trump I cried when he got elected
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I told all my kids that it was going to be over and that the world was over and then when he won
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I had to explain to them how it wasn't so really silly and I started looking into him people called
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him a racist people called him all kinds of things and then I went back through his history and he
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wasn't a racist at all. He hadn't said anything that I would constitute as racist. And then I
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just went down this rabbit hole as to why I believe certain things. And, um, I became a
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Trumplican. And when did you first vote for Trump? I voted for him 2020, 2020, 2016. No,
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nope. 2016. I voted for Hillary. And then you switched though. You switched from Democrat to
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Republican and you voted for Trump in the past two elections. Okay. Got it. Uh, really quick guys.
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also on there um but yeah twitch is our backup streaming platform if we ever need it and just
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coming in right now hide that tiffany do buy us underscore princess donated two hundred dollars
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We got an oil princess there in the chat from Dubai.
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is uh what's going on with tina where's she where's she is she and then what's the deal with
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the other girl oh i think she's faking it to be honest i think that was fake
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maybe i i don't know okay we we have like a walk-off your friend can join us is she um
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still i can use my phone yeah yeah just go back there you can try to communicate with her uh the
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We can only do one at a time, though, because I got complaints that if there's too many Popsicles at a time, people will be slurping.
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Unfortunately, my favorite cross-eyed OnlyFans girl left, very sadly.
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So I wish – I guess she was having, I don't know, something or something.
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Like she was having an air attack or something.
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can you do you know how to sing any Michael Jackson
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and then we're gonna wait until she's done and then uh and then uh yeah so tina tell us something
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really really tina nothing here it's shut the fuck what the up
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If I donated $500 so you can shut the foom cup, your majesty, I'll make it easy and come
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So 500 is the trigger for like to mute someone's mic.
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um so uh go over there um sorry we what is it bro are you the girl the girl let's not complicate
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things please um okay so uh i don't know where we were at tina anything give us something tina
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uh oh my gosh this girl she's not she wanted to be on what is she around don't say where but
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is she around the yeah but i think it was more that he wanted her to be on sorry
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which was the original plan right yeah so she wanted to be on but now doesn't want to be on
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wow wait i i don't what i'm confused what sound like you don't probably just doesn't want to wait
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alone no i mean okay sorry all right she had her chance i guess um okay uh is she a feminist
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like is she is she interesting or is she just gonna be quiet yeah she's a good debater
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all right go ahead tina for you what's it about so last time do you really want a threesome
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huh do you really want a threesome oh my god shut up you asked me
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shut up shut up i was fucking messing with you after the show shut up tina
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uh where was i where was i okay let's get into some of the show notes
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uh okay i guess i could finish up with crystal's stuff uh
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would love to come on the show in response to why white people are afraid to correct black people
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when they're flat out lying yeah okay go ahead so there was an episode where and and i talked about
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it extensively on my podcast um who i co-host i gotta shout out my co-host he is blanchard follow
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him but the lady was basically saying that christopher columbus was a cannibal and how
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white people and black people um I mean well white people used to eat black people and skin them
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and I was just like so confused because a lot of white people don't feel comfortable
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like correcting them none of the girls on the show were like you're a liar like there's nothing
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that says that and then I started to see like where did this come from it came from this book
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called the delectable n-word and basically the book is recent so it's like I think it was like
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written in like 2022 or something where this guy accounts that white people were cannibalistic
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and I was just like it just keeps getting worse like they you you know like everybody has gotten
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over the fact that slavery happened everybody then they start saying okay well it wasn't it
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wasn't slavery it was um chattel slavery and now it's not chattel slavery now it's cannibalism and
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it's just like it's like okay now we don't believe anything so what are you saying i'm not sure where
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you're going with this why are white people not like like correcting this and say like you're you're
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a liar well first a lot of people don't know their history a lot of people don't didn't care enough
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to really learn european history white people history anything i mean uh and also there's i
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mean like not even on a racial front just people don't aren't equipped to talking to each other
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in a normal human way like oh you've heard this the like my knee-jerk reaction is to go to google
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and double check what anyone ever tells me and and to learn something you know if I've maybe did
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so I think that that blanket statement that white people don't want to talk about it a lot of
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people as you know they don't know anything to talk about they don't know what they don't know
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yeah but you know like I mean cannibalism like that was a that was associated with with the
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brown people not white well no no because what i understand is um cannibalism happens when it's an
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extreme situation of survival you know you have the white people uh plane crash in that and in the
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one of the one of the mountains you know yeah you know they had to eat each other like fish comes to
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shove if if i have to survive and the only thing i have to eat is that person that died you know
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like i'm going to survive see you're correcting her but on the show it's like this this black
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these black people are saying black people used to get skinned alive and made like used to make
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leather and i'm like okay now you just you're now you're lying i'm sure no i'm sure that probably
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actually did happen there are some real corners of the world where it's crazy people did you not
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just see that 16 children were rescued from a house and they didn't we're talking about white
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people doing this to black there's i'm sure it's happened so her argument is saying that we view
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history so oppressively against white people like white people yeah but even though it's like turned
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against like blacks or minorities we look at history so oppressive and then we come up with
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these crazy stories that are not true that's her argument big daddy is really messing with your
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mind girlfriend because there's nothing in history you're operating in the realm realm of reality
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that we have our systems in place to protect us.
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for instance, the earthquake in Venezuela, right?
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People are not like these comfy, cozy, happy-goers.
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It's just not first world civilization, but it is a civilization.
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Has done to your mind, you're arguing a point that you're defending people lying on your ancestors as people make you feel guilty about it.
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humans be humans humans are not great creatures so when you tell me i've heard a story that humans
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cannibalize cannibalize each other i'm gonna believe that white people cannibalize black
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people during slavery that happened yes and we just found out about it in 2022 you see how stupid
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that is like like like literally you're sitting up here allowing people vitamins do you're allowing
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people we only just discovered that there were planets outside of our solar system uh within the
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last hundred years do you think that the you think if white people were eating people we would just
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now be hearing about it they literally make you feel bad for everything everything that happens
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in the black community is blamed on white people don't you think that if there was a chance for
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them to tell y'all that y'all were eating them that would have been one of the first things i
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think cannibalism has happened in human history all over the world white people yes white people
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too cannibalizing black slaves that they paid good money for to go work their fields they just
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decided that they're going to eat them if there's no food yeah if it yes when has there been no food
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during slavery honey pay for a slave then they could probably she's white y'all see y'all girl
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over here this is the problem honestly this is what's happening 50 of your people are just in
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complete rebellion straight up traitors you're arguing a point that you have absolutely no
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evidence to prove on behalf of black people same with you no i don't have proof that there wasn't
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cannibalism by white people on slaves and if you don't have proof you don't purport it that's the
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way the world works that's not true so you just go say things that i can't prove you're saying that
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I am, I am, you're saying, I'm saying it's possible that white people were pushed to
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And it's possible that, it's possible that black people were kings and queens in Wakanda.
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I mean, while we're doing, I mean, while we're going there.
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Are you saying there weren't black kings and queens in Africa?
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black people are all over africa and you can't find a single city that is wakanda now and they've
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been for forever every single hood has plenty of black people you're bouncing all over the place
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i'm not bouncing all over the place i think that you're defending black folks against your own
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people and you hate your children you literally hate your children from you hate your children
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I'm saying humans have the capacity of eating other humans in a situation where they're forced to.
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The debate is fine, just if you can lower the volume a little bit.
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But they were contending that there was like widespread cannibalism
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Oh, I look, I don't know. It's that's like it's certainly possible that like some white people ate black people.
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I don't know if there's compelling evidence for it, but I certainly where we almost certainly agree is that this was not like a widespread, like systemic racist problem in the United States where white people are just like, we're going to eat these black people.
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that's ridiculous yeah can you is it i'm not saying is it plausible that there was an instance
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of a white person eating a black person sure i'd be happy to say that is there like robust
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evidence for this i'm not sure and also like the alligator thing or whatever yes like we're skinner
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and and my my thing is the only reason i care so you you asked about this the only reason i care
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is because the african-american community is really in a pickle they they they are they have
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run out of strings with blaming other people for everything that's happening to them. And what I
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am hoping that white people just literally start saying, your problem, I'm sorry that happened to
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you. I'm sorry you were enslaved. I'm sorry that your ancestors were enslaved. But we're moving on
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because that is the only thing that is going to save these people from themselves. And the more
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that you just continue to allow them to keep pushing, pushing, pushing. Oh, we had chattel
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slavery. Oh, you did this. Oh, you did. Oh, now we ate you. Now we skinned you with alligators.
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Like, come on, cut it out. Cut it out. I agree with you in that we need to push back. But then
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if we do push back, we're deemed as racist. That's exactly what I'm saying. So then what can we do
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then? Who cares? Thank you. Well, I think, I think. Oh yeah, but then that doesn't matter
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because then people get all upset still. But I think that's probably. Wait, wait, wait. In order
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to save civilization we're going to have to hurt the feelings of women and we're going to have to
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hurt the feeling we're out we're going to have to be called racist yes we're gonna they're gonna
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have to call us racist look we're gonna have to uh what's the term re re emigrate remigrate what
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like we're gonna have to deport a fuck ton of people out of europe yes we're gonna have to
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deport people out of the united states if you want to call that racist i don't think it's racist but
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yeah we got to support a lot of people if we want to uh save our civilization yes i agree completely
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i think where she's maybe coming from too you and i are both kind of maybe in the realm of like
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academia research these kind of these are very like left-leaning you know industries um or like
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um places you know very very left-leaning and it's very hard to speak up against this stuff
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I was completely segregated from the rest of the tutors.
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Like, this is how I was paying for school and stuff.
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So I think just, like, yes, I agree, and it is easy.
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Yeah, and I recognize that it's easier for me as a brown-skinned individual to come out and say these things.
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But what I'm asking, I'm begging white people that literally the world needs to hear this.
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White people have now started doing these things where they start blaming the Jews for everything that's happened.
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Like, it's nobody's fault that these things happen to you.
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It's very black of white people to say, oh, the Jews are the reason why we can't get a job.
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And it says that we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us.
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I said that black dildo is getting to her head because this.
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I mean, you can replay the tape, but I don't call people racist because I really, anything that is racist is really just noticing.
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I stay away from these people because I'm more likely to get shot.
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I think, like, too, maybe, like, again, I agree with your point, you're eating it up out here, but I do want to say, like, so you would agree that maybe, like, what do you think the problem is, I know, like, you're saying, like, white people not calling them out, but do you think, and, like, what would you say is the problem, like, within the black community, like, is it, like, a cultural issue, or, like, what is the issue with why are there, why is the single motherhood rate so high, why are, you know, why are the people resorting to gang violence, like, all these things?
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Yeah, low IQ, I believe, and I mean, like, people don't really like to talk about these things, but the average IQ in the African-American community is 85, and that is a real problem because typically when you see people get violent, people get ignorant, don't really understand the value of life, and they'll attack you over 10 issues, or they'll attack you because that you were looking at, that's usually an IQ problem.
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What I have an issue with is, and I know it's hard, I do not mean anything when I say this, but white people, y'all have got to get strong.
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Y'all are really weak, and I understand that you may lose some things, and I understand that things may be hard for you.
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There's nobody that has done anything that is worth doing that hasn't got, I mean, our president, for crying out loud, got shot in the ear, and he still kept going.
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Because EQ is like their emotional intelligence
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Okay, so let's get back to a different topic here.
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We are going to, let's see where we're at here in the notes.
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You're going to read all the super chats, yeah.
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Oh yeah that might have been one of the no shows
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uh i'm well i i guess i i just i'm just a big goofball i don't take anything serious i'm
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probably serious only like 10 of the time and gremlin 90 of the time can i have you uh tilt
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your mic up just a tad for me perfect that's good that's good you're fine uh let's see you
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want to talk about age gap dating abortion you want to talk about abortion topic we can touch
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on that super quick what's your position uh position on the abortion thing i would say i'm
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Going around the table, let's just do that really quick.
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Let's not burn, like, 30 seconds of airtime trying to give a yes or no answer.
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If you're Catholic, you're probably pro-life or you would be...
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You would not be in line with the Catholic Church.
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Abortion debate is super fucking boring, I'm going to be honest.
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I just was thinking of anything on the top of my head.
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I guess, like, do you have a cutoff for when you do it?
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Should there be, like, should a woman be able to get an abortion, like, any restrictions on abortion?
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Yeah, I mean, like, after it's, like, three months, I would say maybe not.
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uh objection reclaiming my time okay uh you wanted to you used to want to be a traditional
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housewife yeah i did i i was i was a house like i stayed home cooked clean took care of the kids
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took care of the animals yes i was okay before you're with somebody you're stay at home yeah
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you're cooking cleaning taking care of children not your children but his children step kids i
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guys. Uh, was this before you became a stripper? Yes. And doing OF? Okay. Yes. Um, there's nothing
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really else there. Uh, now you don't though, basically want to be a trad housewife. Now you
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don't. Um, you wrote the power dynamic is the problem with traditional dating. What do you
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mean? Um, when you're a traditional housewife, the power dynamic is that like you're, you're,
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you're, you're depending on this person to give you money and pay for you and take care of all
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your needs it's just this unhealthy dynamic they're basically like your boss in a way they're
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paying you they're giving you this money to take care of their your family together and their home
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and everything and that power dynamic can get kind of wonky especially when like you get home and
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let's you know especially if you have younger children and they make a mess after you just
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clean and then your husband would go like oh why is the house like why is it not in tip-top shape
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you know and being a traditional housewife is a full-time job it is hard so it's like I don't
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know I just feel like that there's no like when you have your own job and just not traditional
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like wait you said being a housewife is hard yeah I'm sorry any job that you can do in pajamas
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is not a hard job disagree I disagree also with you wow okay so what then again we must define
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our terms what do you mean by hard like i think most women would like you have a woman do like a
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rigorous hard physical labor job for one day and she will be ready to fucking pump out seven
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children and immediately take the trade yeah immediately take the trade i'm thinking of
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1950s house i think there's a difference between today and now i'm not saying it's i'm not saying
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it's easy like obviously you know there's the the load of taking care of i'm not just saying it's
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like oh it's a stroll in the park and maybe you're there's obviously difficulty with raising kids i'm
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not saying it's just nothing but this idea that it's like some people say i don't know if it was
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oprah one of these famous people being a being of a state a mom is one of the most difficult jobs
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it's like well i'm not just to be clear like i think it's a great job for women to have i don't
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i'm not downplaying it's a it's a huge contribution to the family and society like that's
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one of the hugest biggest things you can do have kids raise kids etc etc but like people claiming
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it's like a hard job or like the hardest job and no well maybe you're thinking of um
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what like rich housewives right they don't have to do much no even not really you fantasize about
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the 1950s housewife but like most of you guys like that civilization men have made it so easy
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for the housewife today you wouldn't be able to do what housewives did back then I mean which was
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hand wash clothes uh and I think I think this whole idea of housewives we we fantasize about it
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but back in back in the day women work they said oh women didn't work yes they did you had to take
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care of your kids first of all you had to a lot of times farm and anybody who's done farming work
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it's hard you had to you know clean you had to cook and so men have made it very easy for us to
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do it and we still don't even want to do that and you have to base your argument in reality like
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this isn't the 1950s even a generation ago though it was but we're not talking about okay yeah but
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you know what a construction worker comes home and probably couldn't handle their kids for more
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Okay, so the power dynamic, though, you were talking about the power dynamic is the problem.
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Yeah, you, is the problem with traditional dating.
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You know, I actually, I was thinking about this power dynamic thing.
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Do you believe that the power dynamic exists between, say there's a really famous, really rich guy, and he dates a woman who is a barista.
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do you think there's a power dynamic in that yeah he makes more he makes more money right
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but so i was thinking about this and i actually think in this situation um it's not always the
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person who has more resources or who is more well known or you know has more clout or whatever who
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has the power i actually think the woman who's a nobody can wield massive amounts of power in the
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sense that she has nothing to fucking lose so like if you have nothing to lose
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i don't know how to explain it the best but as a man if you are wealthy and you have a reputation
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and you're famous it's a liability it well it can be a liability to deal with a woman who's not on
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your level because that woman uh you know she could just want to be like expose you she could
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want to oh my god he was so bad he was abusive blah blah blah even if you know even if it's uh
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just totally made up right steph curry um so a man who's who's got things on the line
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the woman who like okay she could just do a false accusation nothing will fuck nothing bad will
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happen to her i actually think the person who has more leverage in the relationship is actually the
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person with less to lose so it's the person who doesn't have the money it's the person who doesn't
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have the fame i feel like it's i think it's perspective i think that it both ways it happens
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in both ways i feel like in both ways where a girl can take advantage of a man and then
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take everything that he has but I also think that there's also the generic way where a man you know
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pays for like imagine he pays for her college and then now she feels like she owes him her body or
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etc because of that that's a privilege whoa wait hold on so women can move through life in this
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easy way and just have men pay for your shit so paying for college like I actually think it's a
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a windfall. I think it's a privilege and a net benefit for a woman to align herself with a
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wealthy man. She's going to derive far more benefit from that than any supposed like downside
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of a power dynamic. Oh, I'm dating a rich guy. He pays my rent. He pays XYZ. He gives me gifts
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and treats and pays for dates. And oh, you know, I don't have to pay for rent for months, years,
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however long I'm dealing with this guy. That seems like a massive privilege, not a power dynamic
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downside. And she's entering into this relationship willfully. She has agency. So it seems like it's
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in totality, there's more benefit to her aligning with a rich man than, oh, undue influence. We live
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in 2026 if a woman wants to break up with a man even if he's wealthy she can dip yeah yeah she can
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dip i i don't see like i don't understand the power dynamic component i don't know it's just
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like it's more just like i would say from my own experiences just like from dating wealthier men
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is just like they have a higher expectation and that's fair because they are you know paying and
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stuff like that. Well, what do you mean higher expectation? Um, it's kind of like,
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it's like they want you at their beck and call, you know, like when I snap my fingers, you come
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and that's a very strong power dynamic that if you're not ready for that commitment,
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that's a big commitment, especially if they're paying everything. So then is that really even
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the case with wealthy men? I would say so. Yeah. They want a high attention. Yeah.
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But you're also free to not be in that dynamic. You're free to not be like, as you're saying,
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he pays for your college does all these things okay now he's holding against you wants you to
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pay him back okay like you you you have the agency there to not stay in the relationship
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um so there i don't really understand the power dynamic there i think that it's more for like
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maybe like some women don't know that you know like there's there's plenty that don't understand
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that there is an option like some just just don't they believe that they're trapped you know so i
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think that they're not educated on that that there might be there might not be or it might be flipped
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but it also depends on the state you're in and like the dynamic like every perspective and every
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situation is different I feel like but I don't think that's like an inherent power dynamic that's
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more of like a situational maybe like manipulation or coercion of sorts not like a inherent power
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dynamic you know due to status I would say it's not due to status like I've dated wealthy men
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before and they wouldn't treat me like that i was actually like held on a throne so i think it has
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to do with the person more so than just like a status thing i also think that um these situations
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might happen because society hates on single people okay and i think i think a lot of women
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don't believe in conditions i mean like if i i mean and maybe because the christian faith believes
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in unconditional love because they think that God loves you unconditionally, but it's not.
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There's a whole bunch of conditions throughout the Bible. I'm not, don't come for me. There are,
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there's conditions to love and there's conditions to being with a man and it's conditions to,
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if they pay for your school, there's conditions if they do that. And I think women want men to
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do things and just do them because they love them. And it's nothing in life works like that.
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nothing uh you wrote also in your notes you're frustrated because wait didn't you say you're
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single for six months yeah i've been single but i've been dating on and off yeah but didn't i ask
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if there's any guys in the picture and you said no well no because we broke up like we like stopped
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dating you said in your notes there's some guy that you like and you're technically not dating
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anymore but you're still kind of fucking yeah yeah i know we're fucking when's the last time you had
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sex um maybe two weeks ago yeah okay um and you said he's much older than you yeah your mom says
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he's too old for you yes how old is he he's 54 and i'm 24 he's 30 years older than me 30 year
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age gap yes sweet um for him you said you had a wait you had a heart attack on abortion topic
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huh that's what you that's what you wrote oh yeah change of heart is that no no I was saying that
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um I was uh like I think I was like 21 20 when I had like I my I don't know like the test was just
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I kept getting false positives and false negatives so when I got I did a whole full sonogram and
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everything they found no baby but three months later I was pregnant oh no and I was on the pill
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I did contraception and I was still pregnant, but I, okay. So you've had how many abortions?
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Uh, I had two miscarriages and one abortion. So one. Okay. So yeah. Uh, you also wrote,
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you might be too spicy, but the whole, when is it alive situation? And you kind of wanted to
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just say that if we cared about every microorganism that is live, we wouldn't take
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showers. Yeah, no, I was saying like, if like, when it comes down to abortions, it's like,
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They were saying whether it starts at fertilization or it starts at conception, and I was saying
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that if it started at conception, I would agree, like, you know, for people who are
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pro-life, they're like, oh, conception, it's technically alive because it's conceived.
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And I was saying more like, well, if we go by that logic, we have, like, and we have
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dozens of many microorganisms on our face and body and skin that we clean and kill every
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Well, what it has to do with the baby is that, well, if we, why don't we care about
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those organisms that are alive are they going to develop into a child would they develop into
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their own species that's what i'm saying they have their own but biologically they they would
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not did anyone over here want a popsicle by the way did you want one did you want one um sure
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okay one for her um but they're not going to develop into you like you or i you know what i'm
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saying but why are they different than us that's what i'm saying because they're going to develop
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into a child a human a human being yeah but we like we abort animal babies all the time we who
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aborts animal babies abort animal babies like when they take them like we also eat animals too
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yeah but you know what i'm saying like why don't we care about other life except we only care about
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like our own i think some people do like you know care about life and the well-being of of life in
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general uh i think but like when it comes to a human life i think well human life is on a
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hierarchical scale scale human life would be at the top of that scale we prioritize human life so
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it's so like reducing human life to animal life uh or like like yeah not or no no not because we
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are animals but not human animals like reducing it to you know like a sheep or a cow like that's
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There is a clear distinction between human life and animal life.
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Well, you want to know what else that doesn't follow?
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What also doesn't follow is we care about not unaliving fetuses,
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but once they're born, I don't see a whole lot of people reaching out to those babies that need to be adopted.
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Let's say we defund and we completely abolish abortion and we put all that funding to foster care or finding good placements for those children that the parents don't want them.
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Put it somewhere else that's going to be useful.
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I'm just saying it's hypocritical as a society that we ban.
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We don't want to unalive fetuses, but there isn't a whole big push on helping.
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I don't want to personally go for you, but what do you think that the counter argument saying,
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like, oh, you guys don't care about the born children, what have they done for the born children, if that's the argument?
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Well, there are people that have done things for unborn, but if you're going to have the big push.
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Well, I'll agree with the church's role, but...
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But I'm saying, as a society, we're like, no to no abortion, but we're not addressing the seriously starving children.
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So if you're trying to say everyone's saying pro-life, pro-life, the biggest pro-lifers are going to be people in, you know, a religion stance point.
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Sorry, I do have to move it on just for the sake of time.
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Going to Alara, you're getting your PhD, is that correct?
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um like i okay how do i describe this like digital humanities uh i'm like studying um how
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subcultures form it's very interdisciplinary um and the way in which we find meaning uh in digital
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spaces okay all right um let's see here i'm going to jump back to uh we got elizabeth okay you're the
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deputy that's yeah liz yeah sorry okay did i get your name wrong or no it's that's just my full
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name oh you prefer liz or yeah that's fine either uh you're the deputy vp for a company that's cool
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single and celibate for just over a year you went on a guy you went on a date with a guy
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who invited another woman to the restaurant when he realized you weren't going to drink or put out
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he left with the other woman and left you with the bill and so had you guys just gotten food or what
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no so i i had known him for a while like around 10 plus years he was a friend of mine and i had
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come down to Venice and he wanted to go out to dinner and when I turned up he was inebriated
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he mentioned that he had a friend um that was that he left at the bar to come see me and she
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was also inebriated so I said well let's just grab her because it's unsafe for her to be there
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right and uh and then we went and got dinner um he realized I guess nothing was going to happen
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So I did ask, by the way, hey, have you guys paid?
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Well, look, as long as you guys have paid your bill, that's fine.
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So you got left with a bill for like two other people.
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you want to talk about the bear versus man situation is a great discussion point uh so i
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guess what's your take on the bear versus man thing um so i'm i like the first thing well the
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first option i would choose would obviously be the man but my argument being that if you took a woman
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and you put her in between a man or a bear and you said who would you run to first their first
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choice would probably be a man right so when you say when a lot of these women who say they'd rather
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be stuck in the forest with a bear it really doesn't make a whole lot of like cognitive sense
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I think the argument is that there's so much hatred towards men right now online a lot of
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people are like I hate men I hate men I'll choose the bear over the man and it's just said so much
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people will say that even though it doesn't make sense it doesn't make logical sense you're gonna
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run to the man if you see a brown bear but that's just the argument yeah but the thing is if you
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have the choice right if you choose to be so if you had if you were stuck in the forest between
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with a man or a bear i'm going to the man yeah even if there wasn't a bear uh you pick the bear
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you pick the bear why is that why do you pick bear the worst animal to be killed by is a human
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um what i mean they can at least do it fast with a bear you're gonna be suffering for a while
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okay the worst animal to be killed by is a human how do you know is she a performance artist i feel
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like she's doing a i don't know i can't explain what you mean have you not seen the documentary
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grizzly man no i should yeah okay so why do you pick bear you'd rather encounter a bear than the
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man don't you think that's kind of sexist i must have um jumped to an extreme with that question
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like I just said um right but nothing in the question suggests that the bear could be peaceful
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so to speak and the man could be peaceful okay so why is there an assumption that in both instances
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yeah okay they would be violent I guess I so do you just assume men are violent maybe I've
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watched this so are you sexist do you do you think generally I didn't say men it could have said
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woman. It totally said man. But you would have picked a bear over being in the woods with a woman? What a waste of time. All right. If that's what I was thinking, yeah. Christina, why do you pick bear? Wait, what's the question? Oh, my God. Okay, skip. I'm sorry. If you're not paying attention, I'm not going to, I'm just going to skip over you. Going back to you, Elizabeth, you said you're not a fan of dating apps. You've, uh, why is that?
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I feel that the instant gratification that comes from dating apps kind of demoralizes,
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and I guess it destroys actual interpersonal relationships that we should be having with each other,
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especially as it pertains to women corresponding and relating to men.
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I think it's also caused us to really disrespect the men in our life by not actually...
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We like looking at them as just objects that we're flicking through,
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like, you know, one after the other. Okay. Let's see. You also write, men often say they don't
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want their woman to have established careers. They prefer their partner at home. Is it success
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men dislike or the attitude that sometimes comes with it? Do you want to elaborate?
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Yeah. So, and this is just speaking from experience. I did like drive forward with my
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career right i was very career driven and and that was at the demise of like my relationship
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and being able to have a family so that one aspect of this argument is that men don't typically like
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women to have careers just because they would like to be would like them to be in front of the family
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but it's another aspect of it that when women do develop careers and they do advance in their
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careers that they do develop some kind of attitude that comes with it that men don't really like
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you asking me oh yeah that was a general like question yeah yeah well i think uh when it comes
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to moving through the business world corporate world there is a degree of game playing that one
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needs to develop uh and i guess it depends a little bit you know are you in the corporate
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world as an employee? Are you a business owner? Um, how ambitious, like how, how much do you
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value career ambition? If you're like some A type personality go-getter and you're like
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prioritize career advancement overall, um, men typically don't, uh, find this to be an
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attractive thing in a woman because it doesn't, it's not really a value proposition for a woman
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to be have career ambition typically speaking um and women can like i don't know if this frame is
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gonna is gonna come across as crude but typically um there's a level of
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not that it's bad to be assertive but usually in the if as an employee you you want to be assertive
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and I'm not saying being assertive is necessarily a bad thing but there's this boss babe mentality
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that can develop in women and men oftentimes find this not particularly appealing you don't
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need to be a wet blanket or a complete uh what's the doormat or whatever but um I don't know I think
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uh conquest is typically the the realm of men and so you want to con you want to do conquest
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in your career and so oftentimes more aggressiveness is more typically more associated
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with men i would say and i i actually i i don't even know what i'm saying this is just this is
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just a bunch of stupid word salad i guess i'm saying but um i do think there is a component
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This is not observed in all women who work in the corporate field, but I do think women will find themselves, if they are being a boss babe, they are a bit more lacking in femininity.
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And so men don't want typically to date masculine women.
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And there's a whole bunch of reasons. I mean, there's just a general personality thing, but there's also just men, if a man is interested in having a family, he wants to have kids. If the woman is going to prioritize a career over kids, then that's not an alignment in goals, I guess.
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but why does it have to be a prioritization why can't it be multitasking why can't a woman
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i mean i'm not saying everyone could but it's more like the attitude that comes with it and
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that's what i was referring to which i speak from experience you know i had to do a lot of self
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like introspection and kind of um self-reflection on why my relationships weren't working out and
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why i you know i was having these long-term relationships that weren't leading anywhere
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well why do you think um because i was so like mission first right um my career came before my
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relationship a lot of the time let me ask you a question did you ever have to like cancel a date
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because like oh deadline yes yeah and it's like when a woman does that it's uh like look i'm not
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we're not saying okay women you need to obviously you need to provide for yourself you need to have
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housing food take care of yourself my argument here is not okay women you should be unemployed
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but if your career even before we have kids if your career makes it difficult you're so focused
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on your career oh there's a deadline coming oh i gotta cancel the date some big projects came up
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it's like look you can have like a nine to five that i mean a nine to five that's full-time work
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that's that's demanding but like she's i gotta cancel because there's a thing i kind of like
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at least in my experience if a woman cancels on me because of something work related like okay
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you already have your nine to five that's off limits i get that but we have a date on saturday
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oh i got a deadline it's like okay you're prioritizing your work over
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trying to date and it only gets worse doesn't it apply to men also no yeah but so if if you're
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if you're approaching dating as a woman and you want like at least some degree of traditional
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dynamic there uh the traditional thing was the men the man is the breadwinner sometimes the sole
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breadwinner and so there's the expectation on the man to work but i think the man but like from my
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perspective, for example, like whoever I'm going to be with long-term, I'm a higher earner. The
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woman doesn't need to work period. She won't have to work. So when some girl has a dog walking
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business and she cancels on her pre-planned date, Oh, I got to walk dogs and I'm going to make,
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I make 50, 60 K a year, a hundred K. I'm like, congrats. Like I make that in a month. I don't
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fucking care like you really you're you're going to in furtherance of your 70k job so then you need
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to you're going to cause friction for me who's prepared who's like trying to size you up so you
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never have to work again you're going to cancel on me when down the road the possibility is money
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will never be an issue for you i'm like okay and it's only to feed their ego i mean that's that's
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why i say a lot of the women especially the career women are no different than the only fans girls
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like seriously just so that dog walking business can say oh yeah i have thus much and i have this
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much and i do this for myself and women a lot of times when they um are career driven they become
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like nightmares not just to the men that they date they become nightmares in the workplace they're
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See, what happens with the women with daddy's money looking for six foot something with blue eyes?
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What happens with the women with daddy's money?
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What happens with the women with daddy's money?
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Well, look, if she's got a trust fund, I'll take it over.
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And I'll make sure our financial future is optimized and secured.
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uh so where your question though was you can do both okay well hold on so say a man wants to have
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three kids like the woman who's career oriented she's going to have a yearning i want to get back
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to work i want to get back to work and it's like nah maybe you can take care of the kids
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let's not pawn our kids off to the minimum wage daycare worker the best care the kid's going to
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get is from the mother from you so it's like this push there it's this push to not be as involved
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now look so i guess some people can do it where the you know maybe the kids are at school but what
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if you want to homeschool so i agree with all of your points but if you think down the in the long
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run if a woman were okay yes i'm happy comfy cozy i think my marriage is going to last forever
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but I'm a realistic person. So there's always the what ifs. So what if the joy and happiness
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leaves the place and then it's time to move on? What's the woman going to do if she has nothing
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to fall back on? Was there any cheating? Was there any abuse? I don't think that's, I'm sorry.
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I don't think so, but that's not relevant. If you're married, no offense to you women who
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are solipsistic and everything is about you once you have kids your happiness is secondary i agree
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if the man isn't cheating on you if the man is not abusive if the man is not laying hands on you
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but you've fallen out of love my perspective is you fucking stay married you got kids
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you stay married for the sake of the children you do not leave your husband because you've
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fallen out of love with him. If there's abuse and cheating, that's another, that's another
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conversation. But happiness, happiness, first off, happiness is retarded. Happiness is purely a
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moment before you need more happiness. Whose idea was it that happiness should be the ultimate
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thing we are all pursuing? From my perspective, I think contentment or lack of like catastrophic
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Then you can remarry because you're a widow.
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Well, but in the meantime, the woman has to be able to support herself.
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She's been out of work for 25, 30 years as a housewife.
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So all kinds of things happen in people's lives.
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We live in the most prosperous time in all of human history.
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I mean, you can perhaps explore ways to recertify yourself in something.
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I think school's kind of bullshit, but there's ways to make money.
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Now, if you were also in a financially good place, then hopefully, you know, if there was life insurance, your husband dies, whatever, there's all kinds of mechanisms to hopefully protect a woman from not, okay, husband died, I'm in the streets in 30 days.
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I actually think that, and I am a Christian, you guys, but I do believe a lot of these men, the answer to kind of fixing what's going on with these relationships, I think they are going to have to start leaving women.
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I think the told to death do us part stay together for the children has made the world worse because men are having to take whatever from their wives and you guys I say that I say this as a divorcee who left my husband the first time for nothing good guy shout out to him.
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He's my son's father. And, um, I just left because I wasn't happy anymore. And what would
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have happened is, is he would have stayed with me and I would have been hell to be with. And so I
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think a lot of these guys need to start taking their power back and saying, Hey, you know what?
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I'm going to be an awesome father to my kids. And he tells me all the time, he's like, you're not a
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single mom. You're a single woman. And I'm going to be an awesome father to my kids. I'm going to
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make sure that I'm there and I'm going to have four, five, six more babies and they're going to
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be better than the one that we made. So even if you've fallen out of love as a woman, uh, as soon
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as look, if you don't have kids, you know, even the Christians would probably object to divorce,
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but look, you don't have kids and it's not working. Fuck. I don't care. Go your own ways.
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However, once you have kids from a religious perspective or not, I do think that you should
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probably stick it out with that person. And you're saying the woman's just going to be obnoxious and
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nagging and a bitch. The woman has a duty to be a good person in the relationship. And so I don't
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think that, I don't know. So what's the incentive if you're going to stay with them forever? I've
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heard women actually say that you better not cheat on me because I'm not leaving you, but I'm going
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to make your life hell. Who wants to stay there? Well, she shouldn't though. The woman should not
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make the man's life hell. Like that shouldn't be the case. I agree. She should. You made a
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commitment. You made a commitment. You now have kids. You are secondary now. Your happiness and
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wanting to get dicked down by some new dude, that is secondary. Your own selfish desires are
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secondary when you have kids so and perhaps maybe there's a rough patch and instead of giving up
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you find a way to fix it can i make a point sure quickly to your um thing that you said
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you said like uh when something about um when you uh like staying with them when they've uh
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when the relationship when you're not happy um is bad for the kids right i see yeah it can be bad
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Yeah, but wouldn't you agree, too, that divorce could have a substantial impact on a child's life, maybe even more so than just unhappy parents?
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So, I think it all depends on how the parents handle the separation and divorce process.
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Personally, I think children can become stronger people if they're faced with, my parents aren't getting along, here's how they're handling it.
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they've decided to split and this is the way people can manage their lives like if you show
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them a healthy avenue they can grow stronger for it um i don't see the point in um keeping people
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together if it's just not going to work you know teach the kids how people can separate like for
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i've never i always want to be friends with my exes i don't understand anger and animosity and
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vitriol because I'm emotionally intelligent. My kids grow up in broken homes and they're strong,
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wonderful people. So I don't think it's a done, done, done situation if the situation breaks.
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But Brian, here's one thing I want to ask you. In another show, you said
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a woman's career is not important, right? And that's fine. Let's say you meet the woman of
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your dreams and and she develops an interest so you want peace you said you want your your partner
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to be give you peace well in order to give her peace you have to recognize and support whatever
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interests she decides that she wants to go into you don't think i don't have a duty in a relationship
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to support her interests that's ridiculous that is ridiculous give me an example love
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You're not going to do the horseback riding shit
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anymore. So, no, I don't have a duty as a man to support her interests or whatever, especially if
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it causes a financial burden on the relationship or poses some health risk or fucking life risk
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to my girlfriend. Okay, to your point, what if something happens to you and you're not able to
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contribute to the family financially? Are you going to take the time for the wife to train up?
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That takes years. Or would you have someone who's capable of saying, okay, I can step up now,
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help you get on your feet. I can do this because I've already skilled at that.
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If something happens to you, my husband, and we need money,
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trained up to make the money or marry someone who's already got the skills and capabilities
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What's the question? The question is, your partner's supposed
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to help support you when you're down and out if you're the breadwinner and you can no longer win
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the bread do you want to wait right well you're saying i don't want a career focused woman well
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career focused woman has the skills and ability to get a job real quick and bring in the money
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when it's necessary right so you can present me hypothetical situations in which you know
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some catastrophic thing happens and you know we're down in the dumps and uh realistic situations yeah
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Yeah, well, I mean, these, yes, people do encounter things in their life, whether they get sick or whether they get in some sort of catastrophic injury.
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This wouldn't supersede the general inclination to men having an aversion to women who put to career over other things.
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Look, you don't, as a man, if you want to date a woman who has a decent grasp of the marketplace and she has a job, I'm not saying don't, but it is generally, I think it can generally be an issue when a woman is so career oriented that she puts that over family, over kids.
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And then when you do have kids, she's going to be like, I'm not fulfilled.
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I want to go work in a corporation and sit in an office for nine hours because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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and I'm blah blah blah like that's ridiculous
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wouldn't it be better if she had the skills and
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capabilities to just dive right into the work market get a job and make it happen
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um so okay you're presenting me with a scenario where it's like if you encountered a financial
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hardship would it be good for you to have a woman who could assist with a financial hardship
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i mean the obvious answer is of course yes right but you just said well okay i like i don't
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understand, like as a general principle, like, um, I'm trying to think how I could flip this
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in terms of, okay, here's a better question. How would you handle it if you were down and out
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and there was no other income? Like what would your next step be if your wife doesn't have a
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career or any kind of skillset that makes her a good employee? There's a difference between a job
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and a career though yeah and and he didn't say he would marry somebody with no skills i mean
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just career focused yeah like not career focused is working three jobs a career
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negative no because that could be just as time consuming as a career focused person so yes in
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the situation we would adapt to the circumstances if i was no longer able to work and we needed
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money uh then in that instance yeah i would my that that's what you do when you're in a relationship
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and you have kids or whatever then if out of necessity then yeah she can she can step up
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and i i wouldn't i i would be more focused on like what is the catastrophic thing that happened to me
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can i get back into hell that seems like the primary concern but in the meantime um but yeah
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I wouldn't have an issue like in a situation you're basically saying Brian in a situation
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where the woman had to step up would you be okay with her it's like yes but a housewife out of a
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job out of her career for 20 25 years is not going to be able to do that so you have to maintain
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some kind of you can then then build up then you start from where you can right we are adaptable
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like we work within the confines of what we can do so but you have to be supportive
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well yeah of course i would be like thank you i would be like thank you babe for stepping up
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but you're not supportive when it's not an inconvenience women are so propagandized what
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makes you think that again what yes what i'm saying is okay husband i think it would be good
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for me to have some kind of thing to do here let me let me explain it like this i have a functioning
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penis if my penis were to be lost somehow i suppose in that circumstance i would be okay
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with my wife using a dildo for self-pleasure if my penis is still functioning um you know what i
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can use my hands fuck that shit if my penis is still functioning i don't find a need for her to
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utilize a dildo that probably made no sense but no i get it who's this one for we got
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here give tina another one she needs another one she needs two she's looking like she needs a
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second wind um i don't know i don't know um so what's your point i guess i think it's better
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in the long run to have a partner that can pull in money when dire circumstances come in order to
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do that they have to have consistent work because if you're out of work for 20 or 30 years you can't
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just jump right back it's not a deal breaker like i wouldn't not like if a woman has a job
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like by the way i'm 37 i'm not exactly like most of the women i'm going to be dating they're
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probably closer to my age they probably have a career they probably have a job it's not like
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oh you don't just stay at home and do nothing all day i only date women like that it's like
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obviously i understand the economic reality that women have to pay their rent they have to buy food
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they have to buy xyz take care you know whatever it is so it's not a deal breaker but when the career
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is the overarching fulfillment that they think they're going to get into life and that's going
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to like, okay, look, from my perspective, I'm a high earner. Whoever I'm with is not
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going to have to work. I can take care of everything and she won't have to work. So
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in that paradigm, I would like her to want to have as many kids as possible. I would
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like ideally her to homeschool. I would like her to do all the childcare. So what I mean
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by that, by do all the, I don't want to send a kid to daycare. I don't want to send our
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kids to uh child care daycare i want the best person for the job to watch the kids take care
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of the kids is the mom i don't want some minimum wage fucking guatemalan taking care of my kids
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not saying they're bad people i'm just saying the best person to take care of the kids
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is going to be the mother point blank period i agree point blank period but if she's like
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yearning she's like oh i gotta get back to work gotta get back to work can we do child care can
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we do daycare then it's like your mind once you have kids that should be your focus that and i
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will create the space where you don't fight from a financial perspective you don't need to work for
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financial reasons but when the woman's like oh my god i want to um get some like fucking award at
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the company retreat and i sit at the fucking desk all day like that's retarded fucking retarded
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yeah now look some women have fulfilling careers i guess where they're working for some
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company that i guess is doing good but i mean a lot of women are just working okay you're working
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for a company that they do snapchat filters they're doing um i don't know you're working
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for some bullshit company that's your fulfillment oh wow you closed a sale for something congratulations
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who gives a fuck how about we give them the most attention we can to our kids yeah yeah and the
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results so like women working or women outside of the home the results have been these teen takeovers
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like the results of women being boss babe and the results of them being at that office job all day
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has not been a good one so we have to look at it i mean the statistics are like a lot of the kids
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can't even read whether you agree with me or not a lot of them can't read right or do math on on
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on grade level because the mother is yes yes it is chris rock famously said if the kids can't read
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because there's no lights in the house that's daddy's fault if the kids cannot read it is the
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mom's fault and that's what i'm saying even with the school system you're saying that so if the
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kids can't read whose fault is it is it the teacher is it the teachers and this is the this
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is the reality of what we're dealing with it's everybody's fault but mama that's a problem
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we have a soup chat uh let's see who wants to read it i'll have you read it thank you christian
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the typical reader you oh me uh god bless chair seven she and so many others are ostracized by
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the brown community for telling the truth okay thank you for that super chat very much appreciate
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it uh gorlack the destroyer on the scale of zero to ten rate your own looks face body can't pick
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seven so i'll go first to give you the template for how i want you to respond okay face 4.5 body
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4.5 that's my rating template it like that format it like that starting with you
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i don't know uh i would say face 8.5 body 6.5 okay tina i think it's for me it's different like
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in the camera right now face is 6.5 and body is 8.5 and in person face is nine body is nine
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Now, who wants me, I'm a professional looks rater, professional, I get paid for this.
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Who wants a professional, unbiased looks rating?
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I will repeat your rating, and then I will give you the looks rating.
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I would give you, you did overrate yourself.
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No, I mean, I know your answer is Shanghai 6.5 for me.
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What's the difference between Guangzhou and Shanghai?
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and you've got the doyen or whatever the fuck it's called,
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eyes or whatever, and you've got fake lashes in.
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I'm going to give you a four, but if you get that tooth fixed, we can bump it up to a 4.25.
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We, I'm giving you some looks maxing tips.
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Uh, also grow your hair, grow your hair longer.
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have you had the nose job yes uh blephoroplasty have you had the blephoroplasty what's that
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have you had uh what is it buccal buckle i can't buckle fat removal no okay lip flip yes lip filler
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any botox in the face chin just in my forehead just in the forehead but i'm 41 have you had a
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facelift no 41 yes you're beautiful you look beautiful please don't rate me though because
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Any Botox, any plastic surgery, lip filler, lip flip, anything?
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But it was the guy who played Jeffrey Dahmer, right?
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He was in that one show, HBO show with the, not HBO, FX.
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But it could be, you get to pick any man and he will marry you.
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But the condition for being with him is you have to engage in premarital sex with him.
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Like, you could give me the perfect man, but, like, I'm not going to sin against.
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All right, chat, don't fucking lie, you fucking liars.
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though we do have some very dedicated female viewers,
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You'll never have to work another day in your life.
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Some people in the chat are like, I'll do that for a hamburger.
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Everyone who is saying, hell no, I think you're a liar.
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Now look, you guys are going to accuse me of being gay.
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That one's worse because it's prostitution.
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I would be a prostitute for a billion dollars.
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Look, look, I'm just saying, somebody's asking if it's circumcised.
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Look, look, we're going to be as forgiving on this as possible.
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I should do to the women who are straight here.
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like who are straight would you have for a billion dollars would you do some lesbian shit
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a billion well okay i get it the christians you know of course not no look would you yeah elizabeth
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uh yeah for a billion dollars a billion dollars that's a lot of money i would think of all the
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puppies you could save with a billion dollars think of all the abortions you could stop with
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a billion dollars i mean you know think about it oh wait i have a question for you yeah
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and this might be super retarded but probably in order to stop all abortions
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you must allow one abortion do you do it oh this is like a um what's it called like
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yeah um i think oh my gosh like i would say in in general i tend to go for
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the like in ethical questions like this hypothetical ethical questions like the
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trolley problem for example i tend to go for the greater good uh the yeah for the great the greater
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good which i would consider i would yes exactly sorry uh utilitarianism yes um i yes so i would
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go for the one abortion. You would allow the one abortion to stop all future abortions. Because
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there's a greater good happening. Get that. I understand that. How about this one?
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Would you engage in premarital sex to stop all abortions?
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Wait, I need to go back to this because I've been thinking about this before I answer that.
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I think that, okay, so what would you rather me do in this situation?
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Would you rather me engage in premarital sex and deny, like, sinning against my faith in order to keep him happy?
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or do you think that I should stick to my values and my faith and my morality as a Christian woman
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I do not want to engage in premarital sex anymore.
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And you have the freedom to choose and leave at your own discretion.
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Because if I were to say, you know, I'm Catholic, but I'm engaging in premarital sex.
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I can't even think of any more ridiculous.
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Would you fuck Donald Trump if it meant he didn't get elected?
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You don't like him, but you'd fuck him to stop him.
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What if you had to give him, like, perpetual BJs every day?
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I'll take it for the team if it stops him, yes.
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Would you rather acknowledge Tiananmen Square or –
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I don't know where I'm going with this, to be honest.
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Wait, would you rather acknowledge Tiananmen Square
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Okay, we're just messing with her a little bit.
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oh where do you think you need to improve oh i gotta lose weight 100 i'm chubby right
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okay i think the best i could do gotta lose weight um there's some other things uh gotta
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work on the skin clarity a bit uh i could probably dress better um i kind of i don't know i i have
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like a kind of out of style haircut but i like it um it's it's giving never mind i'm not gonna go
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i'm not gonna go there but uh i'm not gonna do the broccoli haircut i'm not gonna do the
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fucking what is it called the broccoli yeah i'm not gonna do what is it a fucking undercut fade
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or some bullshit or what the fuck what's it called low taper fade i don't know what all the guys are
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getting that i'm not gonna do the broccoli thing i'm not i don't know um you rated yourself low
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what thank you i gotta lose weight that's the big thing though me too that's the big thing boys
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I could be slaying them hood rats if I lost some weight.
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If you get to your best physical condition, what do you rate yourself?
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I think if I look smacked, not surgery, any of that shit.
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If I fully look smacked, which the primary thing would be to get down to a much lower body fat percentage,
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Or, you know, I could have a nice suit or, you know, wear the button downs and the slacks and have some shoes and a watch.
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I'm not I'm not super materialistic, I guess you could say.
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Do you have any other disagreements with the show?
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I think I put them in the notes that I sent you, but I don't remember.
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I mean, she does have the engineering social work type thing to her, I guess.
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Angela also agrees women are oppressed in the USA.
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In certain instances, I don't think 100%, but here's the thing.
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They are the majority in a lot of corporations.
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So, for instance, what I'm saying is like female research.
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There's not a lot of money being thrown into female-related research for health and stuff like that
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because it hasn't been prioritized, and it's not prioritized, I don't think.
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And I don't think it's a bad thing that most men run the world,
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but they don't prioritize women's health and medical needs.
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What I'm saying is, in some cases, women aren't supported as much as they should be.
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Like female research, reproductive research, you know?
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There's like dozens of birth control options, and men have basically none.
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Well, I'm not saying that they shouldn't have options.
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Can we agree that when it comes to, like, birth control, for example, there's been way more robust research on female birth control as compared to male birth control?
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But there's other medical situations that women fall under that's besides just reproductive.
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I mean, literally, that's all health care focuses on.
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It's tragic that men are not even considered a lot of times.
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So I obviously can't pull out every, I can't cite a lot for you.
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I'm not that smart, like, you know, like Andrew and stuff like that.
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But I'm just saying there are some inequalities elsewhere.
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I just think in some areas women could be supported more.
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So it's like men die sooner than women, typically by about five years on average.
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so and you look at like for example breast cancer research gets way like way more disproportionate
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funding than prostate cancer research for example which is actually more deadly than breast cancer
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well i'm i'm glad you have the numbers in your head like that i don't have the numbers in my
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head like that i just am aware uh that there could be more support for women in certain areas that's
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all wait wait there's a bunch of support for women there is there's a bunch of support for women
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this is like a feminist fake news agree talking i'm not a feminist i just want to put it out there
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okay i'm absolutely not a feminist uh let's see what's next and this is what happened that you
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just make it up like i mean if you're saying that you can't support it angela let's switch to this
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um hold on uh this is gonna be for rena and angela okay a woman you might want to scoot
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to the table you're all the way in india over there do you know where delia is by the way
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where it is india okay a woman should not be rejected because of her weight to which angela
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you agree rena you agree i don't believe there's any other agreeers so why is that
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um i don't think anyone should be rejected by how they are look physically men or women
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um i know that they are rejected but i don't think they should be didn't you say earlier that
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that women that men can reject women for having hip dips and things like that so you were okay
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with men rejecting women for hip dips but not if they have i'm acknowledging that everyone can have
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their own preferences i'm just saying it would be a better world if those preferences wouldn't exist
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that's not reality i know i get it so we can do this thing where we're talking about what
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should be so okay there shouldn't be war there should never be murder there should never be
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crime people should never steal but given that we live in a world where people have superficial or
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shallow i don't even think i don't even know if i'd categorize as having like caring about looks
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is necessarily superficial or shallow, but given that these preferences do exist, then
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living in reality, knowing how men and women are, women care about looks, men care about looks,
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I think that's okay. I don't think it's wrong for people to have looks preferences of any kind.
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You would say, though, that it's wrong for a man to not reject a woman, not want to date her
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Right, just like it would be wrong for a woman
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Because there's a lot of beautiful people out there,
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It's a missed opportunity when you have a hard line,
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like, okay, I don't like a person who looks like this
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You know, there's just a lot of missed opportunities
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but yeah if attraction is attraction so i can't deny that what do you think so i think today
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people are way too obsessed with weight whereas in 1950 they like the hourglass figure so you
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could be like bigger with an hourglass figure like marilyn monroe or very thin with an hourglass
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figure like barbara mullen and i think health and weight are separate people try to use health
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as a way to obsess with a woman's weight or someone's weight but like okay but so i understand
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that over time beauty standards have shifted but what would actually can you explain why it's wrong
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for a man to say not want to date an overweight or obese i mean just because of that like you were
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saying is it just because of that or is it his let's say it's just is it his let's say she's a
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great person but she weighs 400 pounds and she's even got a pretty face under there i guess because
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sometimes a fat chick they got pretty faces right underneath sort of you know you know anyways
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so kind of like me you know somewhere under here under this fat there's a decent face you know
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it's a better without the fat um why is it wrong though for the man to not want to date a woman
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because of her weight if it's his preference yeah it's fine like any preference is fine but i'm just
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saying because of the obsession about weight i'm sure that a lot of men make it their preference
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like they're expected to make it their preference so there's a you're saying there's a social
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pressure yeah otherwise they would be yeah like one of my fucking a porker one of my friends told
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me that a man will date an overweight girl in secret and not tell his friends you need to stop
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listening to your friends doesn't let anywhere good i i think i understand what you're saying
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there though. So I agree with you partially. So I think a man who would like for a long-term
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relationship who would not otherwise be in a like long-term relationship with say like a chubby girl
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but say she was like magically in a hypothetical like they both magically appear in a bedroom
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that's completely private and it's a one-time sexual encounter and she's just like her pussy's
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right there and she's like fuck me like men who would not otherwise date her would have sex with
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her in that moment yeah i agree even multiple moments sure sure but but men will category just
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because men will have sex with a woman doesn't mean that he views her for long-term relationship
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potential the reason being like for example i'd fuck oh my god oh go with that i'd have sex with
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you are you regrettably but like i'd be a bit on the fence about it but um i'd you know i'd maybe
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put like a thing and i'd put a cap in your mouth or something hopefully you know what doggy style
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is on the table for us but um people do not appreciate my sense of humor i think but but
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you know for a long-term relationship the asexuality would probably a problem you'd
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probably annoy me frequently you know and then it would require makeup sex and I just I don't like
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makeup sex I just like regular sex it's a very complicated procedure and I don't know and then
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you'd be like too autistic sometimes and like embarrass me in social settings so I'd probably
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just I don't know you'd bring along like Asian women like you just bring along Asian women to
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functions that you just met I'm like excuse me like it was only a plus one or not a plus one
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anyways um so you know you know okay i don't all right cool good talk
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are you okay are you good we can is it i'm okay sorry can i get you a grill you know what i want
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to do you know you know the grills the rapper have i actually want can somebody do a champagne
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pop and i fucking if someone even pops a bottle of champagne i will wear a grill you know like the
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the the the front you know what i'm talking about i'm unblacked but i know what you're talking about
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when i was black my caucasian no my caucasian see why does unblack mean white i don't want to be
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white you're just in the like okay eminem black people say that's my to him you know to eminem
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For sure, black people are like, Em, you're a black, brown woman, but you can be my Caucasian.
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So, it's like, look, men, I think what you got to understand as women, and this is, I'm
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kids with her, I wouldn't want to have a relationship with her
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you know now look i'm not i'm i am intentional when it comes to who i have sex with
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for the most part if i have sex with a woman i don't like the one-time thing i don't want to
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have sex once i want to keep seeing her if i do want to have sex with her there is a i want to
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pursue a long-term relationship just running through women doesn't interest me do you have
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a preference or are you equal opportunity employer are you talking about race like what i did a black
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woman well or brown or or i'll date you know if we get along and she's attractive i don't um you
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know i i would date you know asian latino white black you know i don't think black women really
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like me but asians latinas line them up white girls line them up i'll i'll date i'll date you
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know but um where was i going with that i don't know where i was going with that where was i
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dealing with that something about talking about oh big girls you gotta be you gotta be careful
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because don't mix up the man wanting to have sex with you necessarily with him wanting to
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sex okay but me i would never do that unless it was you just kidding not kidding just kidding
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okay uh what next a woman who who had this one uh wrong rena another one for you wrong for a man
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to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex we sort of talked a bit about that
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but why is it wrong because i don't believe in premarital sex well so i understand like there
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are asexual people and they can find fellow asexuals or people who are okay with not having
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sex no i'm not talking about asexuals i'm talking about like christian waiting till marriage so like
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it's um girlfriend he's like girlfriend you didn't say wife well so i suppose the question
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wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex i think this
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would suggest that sex was occurring but then the girlfriend the frequency declined or
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that should be 100% respected by the man from a consent perspective. However, the man can then
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make a determination based off of that and be like, is this a person I want to keep dating?
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And so if the woman says, I no longer want to have sex, or just the frequency of the sex reduces
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significantly, I don't actually see a problem with the man saying, hey, I'm not being fulfilled
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in this way um i want to end the relationship for this reason i think okay i guess i was just
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thinking premarital sex is wrong in general so um i the dumping girlfriend though i agree with you
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okay all right uh let's see women put in more effort when it comes to dating says lilith
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uh why is that uh just i i say with their appearance i didn't really get it just
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seeing it overall and like i didn't think about it in general but i guess with their like looks
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when they like into dating they'll get like dressed up really look nice and everything
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sometimes here let's open it to the panel do you guys think dating is harder for men or women
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Raise your hand if you think it's harder for women.
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Anika, I'm pretty sure you circled on this one.
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Hey, Tiffany, can you close the windows up there?
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uh let's see but it's good for men to have a high body count and women to have
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or women want a low body count so that doesn't make sense they want different things
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sorry what's your question no sorry no question
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all right spaz okay let's talk about body counts uh lilith husband should be willing to die
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protecting you take the bullet we have christina men should have first dates men should provide
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protect uh rena men should pay on rena you're very sexist here now do you think traditional
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gender roles are sexist did i say that they were well i'm asking you if they are no okay uh they're
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not oh you're joking yeah uh i don't think i said that well you you agree with the following
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statements rena men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous
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Husband should be willing to die protecting you
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I feel like if you're not going to have sex
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do you have any money on you, do you have any cash
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Tiffany why are you looking at yourself in the mirror up there
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she's very vain, she likes to look at herself in the mirror
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I waited until you were at the bottom of the stairs
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she's perfect in every other way but she just
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she has some apprehension to it for whatever reason then it wouldn't be a deal breaker but
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it'd be better if she did sure so yeah but a lot of these apprehensions that these girls have
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like for wait there's one more thing can you just kidding you're good i was gonna send you back up
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they'll do it well let's ask the women though is it a deal breaker for you
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Tiffany, you didn't mute this microphone, did you?
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I'm gonna just I think it'll help can I have you you move seat to the open seat over there
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I think that'll be a little better placement I think per chance that that corner is a bit tight
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about what um it would be a deal breaker oh deal breaker for you it would be if the guy
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wouldn't go down on you yeah okay fair enough fair enough what if he made up for it though in other
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ways in what ways like okay you know how in some things like a guy could be so much of x trait like
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let's say he's like maximally good looking maximally rich and like personality maximally
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but there's just this one thing which was he didn't eat pussy or probably not a good match
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then you you so okay here's the question though would you pass up giga chad billionaire um every
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you guys like the same goth bands or whatever the fuck um every single trait that you care about
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except this one thing eating the pussy would you pass him up would he be open to using toys
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sure okay then that's fine but most guys i feel like don't like toys
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I think we're almost done with the questionnaire
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husband should be willing to die protecting you
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Annika man should be willing to die protecting you
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To those of you who think your man should be willing to die protecting you, do you think it's beta?
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Do you think it's beta male if the guy was unwilling to do it?
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Yeah, but, like, just playing devils, I actually don't agree with that.
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Okay, so I have a child, and my goal is to have more kids when I get married.
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I think I would just want my husband to prioritize protecting me and the family,
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and I'd follow under that traditional role, I guess.
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So then you would carry, like, your husband would die,
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and then you'd get married to somebody else and have children with that man.
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self-serving a little bit and a little, you know, kind of narcissistic.
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If me and Liz were dating, she'd be like, no, Brian.
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So, you know, I see that kind of thing every day.
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And I just think that it's a little like, yeah,
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self-interested to just say that you expect him to do it for you.
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I think the more alpha thing is, here's what's, and by the way,
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I don't like, I don't call myself an alpha male.
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But the more alpha thing is to let the woman die, and you survive.
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Now, Tina probably has some Mongolian in her.
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So a lot of Chinese can trace their lineage back to Genghis Khan.
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That motherfucker had a lot of wives and concubines and kids.
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He had multiple wives, Genghis Khan, and multiple concubines, mistresses.
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Do you think Genghis Khan, the conqueror, who had the largest contiguous land empire in all of human history,
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would lay down his life to protect one of his many wives?
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but didn't you say you do only fans so what do you think your chances are if you do get married
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and you have children and your husband dies or takes the bullet for you what are the chances
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that you're going to get married again or a man's going to want to be married to you
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well i'm not married right now so who's to say i ever will be but the hypothetical is that you
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are married with children so i'm married with children and i'm have as three kids my goal is
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to also get off of only fans so if that's your argument then i wouldn't have only fans at that
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point right where's this premise that with like traditional women that think that only fans girls
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don't get like like married or don't have like wonderful lives i i know this you know most guys
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say they don't want uh their wife or whoever to be a former only fans girl but like the way we
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act like it's like so doom and gloom like you can't find a guy i gotta move on to the next
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topic, but going to a Laura, am I saying your name right? Laura. Yeah. Laura. Okay. So you agree
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with the following statements. Men should pay on first dates. Men should provide, protect men
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should be chivalrous. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. Take the bullet. And then
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you, uh, you're going to keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage. Is that correct? Oh no,
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sorry. I thought that was their last, keep their last name. Sorry. Oh, so you will take your
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husband yeah yeah yeah sorry you're not gonna hyphenate yeah sorry i was never never mind then
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sometimes sometimes people will just do an accidental circle on some of these things okay
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well i'm pretty sure that is it for most of the questionnaire oh i need to wait for one more thing
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on this and then we're done with the questionnaire we have some more show notes any topics um you guys
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want to dive in on okay i got a question about it for the ladies who do only fans uh oh my god
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no no no no no no i have a serious question okay i'm i'm gonna reserve the right to skip it if i
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find it oh well then we'll just ask it ask it but if it's just like no it's it's like what do you
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think you're honestly giving to society and then also like how pussy pics but okay that's it
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and that's their fulfillment in life is to send out pussy pics okay do you guys want to give a
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quick answer so i can move it on okay no good moment it's up to you if you want oh my god i
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think a woman should capitalize if she wants to don't don't waste air time just just answer the
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question uh so you said fulfillment right what fulfillment is that giving me is that your
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question maybe society society okay well the average joe working mcdonald's you know he's
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throwing the bags the fries in the bag that's is that that fulfillment so i'm providing something
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that is kind of being asked for you know and so if you want to argue that i'm kind of filling that
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void yeah i would say i'm fulfilling fantasies that aren't being met by i don't know whatever
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they're neither themselves or others you know like i would start in only fans to sell my
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beautiful hot selfies and whatever else i could capitalize for myself because there's an end to
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opportunity and why not and especially for me like i'm i'm probably never going to be married
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That's like saying, why don't you just take off your tattoos or you wake up and you want to take out your piercings.
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That's different because you already have them.
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But well, I just say confidently that I would not regret.
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I think the pictures that I put out there are just just so damn beautiful.
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and I don't mind if a man takes it and jacks off to it. I don't mind if he stuffs it away
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for a rainy day because at the end of the day, I think it's just beautiful. It's art.
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So you've reduced yourself to a picture for a man to jack off to.
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I mean, you can call it a reduction. I call it praise. Like I'm not going to be this beautiful
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for the rest of my life. So when I look back and I'm 80, I'm going to like, look how fly I was.
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yeah look at that so good but you don't need but if it's for you and you to appreciate your beauty
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but you don't need other men to look at you then right I mean I don't need it but I like it I like
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making people happy I'm like hey look at my titties look how beautiful they are you know
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look how pink my pussy is you know like yeah you know it comes from loving yourself and so I'm
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German so I'm in Germany like sexuality is way different from here I mean like you have women
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posing in their underwear in magazines that go into family homes, you know, and some of them are
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nude, and it's not sexualized. So that's where I'm coming from. I don't think it's a form of
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self-love to post yourself naked on the internet for people. Well, it's an opinion. Okay. I just-
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There's a point. What about nude paintings and stuff?
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anybody popsicle popsicle okay uh one at a time so i guess we'll do one tina wants another one
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you want another one so we'll go one two three i guess okay i gotta get rid of these i have these
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july 4th popsicles nice little messages once you eat them oh didn't did not know that they do can
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we actually maybe even take those off the table um hey tiffany can you just get like a cup or
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something and just like collect them off the table uh you guys can just pass it down to her
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pass it pass it down not that complicated yep just you're gonna hold it like that
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yeah there we go the patriarchy is giving instructions on how to pass popsicles
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point a to point point b oh we didn't need to collect the cups i guess that's fine um
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okay uh going on the table what is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband starting
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with you oh i don't care it doesn't matter but doesn't matter okay you'll date a mcdonald's
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worker totally makes sense okay i think 30 million and more 30 million maybe one billion
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what i i have a reason i have reason because my friend's friend she like she's way ugly than me
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because your friend is ugly and has met a billionaire
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say it again 200 200 000 a year all right what about you 50 000 next um i would say as long as
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they have a career or like that they can provide for my family but i don't have like a number on
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it as long as they're working and not not working do you want to stay at home though yes i do and
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Well, you're probably, I mean, where do you live?
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Basically, I just want my fella to have a job, sorry, a job, and that he is taking care of responsibility.
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Around the same as me, so let's just say approximately $200,000-ish.
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If he's poor when we get together, he won't be poor once I'm done with him.
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Your new fresh boyfriend, what does he do for work?
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like yeah he works for a data center no no no no he does like uh he works for a data center that
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he's installing all of the piping in nevada right now he lays pipe yeah he does
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yeah he does okay so how much does he make about i don't know i didn't ask a little closer to the
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i didn't ask all right um all right well i think that's it for the questionnaire well let's talk
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about the age gap yeah pipe fitter i guess we could who's okay who is anybody against age gap
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relationships here you are certain okay so the question was um okay there's a certain
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age number where i think it gets to be concerning okay so that's my stance on it tilt your mic down
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a little bit okay okay what is that um so i think i think grown men like as in probably 25 plus
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No, I would say a little, maybe like 20, I don't know.
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Should probably not be dating a girl that just turned 18.
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I guess it depends, too, on, I guess, so women mature faster than men.
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Okay. And so I think like it depends on the maturity level and things like that, I would say.
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Well, without knowing the maturity level of either person, let's just say 30 and 20.
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I think, like, yes, older men going for, like, younger girls.
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I think it's fine, but it depends, like, how young we're talking.
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We've been propagandized to believe that that's weird, but it's actually not.
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But, I mean, so just to be clear, it's not like I'm hanging out at college parties to, like, mac on 18-year-olds.
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So it's not, like, I don't have a hyper-focus on 18, barely legal 18.
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But, like, if a hot, for example, a hot 18-year-old girl contacted me, am I supposed to turn her down?
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I find it to be weird, especially considering that she has literally just became of legal age.
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might be 18 and in her last year of or not uh last it's the end of her first year of college
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so you know are you saying if he met her before that or even no okay hold on we're talking just
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to be clear any conversation related to age gap relationships assumes that it's it's adults yeah
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this would be you you weren't like grooming or whatever you weren't you didn't meet her when
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she was younger you met her when she's 18 okay maybe my logic is flawed but it's just my like
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perspective i just find it strange i just don't find she's hot i just think that a grown man like
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she's a grown woman almost 40 she's a woman yep almost 40 has no business no i see like 18 year
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old girls like me as a woman i see them as like children i see them as like i don't see 18 year
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olds as grown women well it's a bit infantilizing they're obviously legally adults yes they're not
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yes of course like children is um is what like 10 years old maybe not okay maybe not children's
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not a good word but like i don't see them as grown women i'll put it that way should women
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at 18 be allowed to vote uh well honestly i think you want to repeal i think no no no i
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i think uh i think we need iq tests uh for voting so that and i don't think that wait i don't think
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age would be at play there test for voting now let me ask you this say a genius iq level woman
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who's 18 dates a sub-hundred iq man is she the predatory one um no i don't let's say her eq is
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really high too so she has like way higher emotional intelligence than the man too i i
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don't know i just find it like again i don't i it's hard for my logic to follow and track because
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i just find the the idea of an older man with a very young girl to be woman you mean woman not
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girl i know to be strange i just find it strange i don't know why is it strange why is it i don't
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know i just don't think that a 30 or i was i would say like a 40 year old man has any business with
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an 18 year old i there's plenty of business yes let me explain the business one could have yeah
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that's weird with an 18 19 20 year old so let's assume we share values and she hits on me
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relentlessly and you know I'm kind of on the fence or whatever and then she's like Brian look I don't
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want to do the college thing I don't want to I'm not interested in having a career I like what you
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say you seem like you're well-off man you've got your money's well um I find you attractive in a
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chubby sort of way I just want to pump out some kids I'm ready I don't want to do the work thing
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I just want to have some kids and have a loving boyfriend.
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This would arguably be the best time to start having kids.
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You know, look, I can maybe have two or three with her.
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fucking i think bless it's something along the lines of whose quiver is full blessed is the man
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who oh my god fuck something about um the man who has many kids is like uh a man who has many
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sons is like having many arrows oh my god i'm so bad i just i'm okay it was a good show good
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something about quiver and lots of suns and it being a good thing
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i mean i just don't i don't know it's just my perspective that i i think okay i guess i'll
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put a clearer picture i think like 20 plus year age gap like as a as young like 18 20 year age
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gap like if you're like 60 and 40 you know i'm sure that's as you get older i think the age
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matters less but like 18 you know with a 37 year old that's just like a little strange to me i'm
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sorry i just find it to be strange now let me ask you a question um does it change anything if
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okay this is i don't know where i'm going with this i saw something andrew posted recently
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um do you think there's a component like do you think that there's women for example who are
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18 and they have like a quote-unquote woman's body and you have like women who are in their
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30s 40s 50s who are not so to speak developed who do you think is more like let's say this
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woman has is flat-chested uh does not have curves has no ass do you think the man who's dating her
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would you find that more objectionable than the man who's dating an 18 year old who's like
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she's fucking stacked boom pow no there's a there is a generational difference it's not just like
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about body and having yeah having you know a womanly body a curvy body that has to me that
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has nothing to do with my argument i i'm not i don't you know i'm not objectifying women in the
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sense of them being like curvy or whatever to constitute them being more womanly. Cause then
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you could just follow that same logic and, and it gets pretty, you know, dangerous if you're
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going to apply that logic down. No, but you wouldn't, you would not apply it down. You would
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say, uh, we're speaking strictly of adults here in the situation. But I don't, but again, I don't
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look at a woman's body and think oh she's she's got a curvy body therefore she is more womanly
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like i don't that my brain doesn't connect those two things i don't think you're more womanly for
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having bigger right so but so i i i'm not claiming that this is my position i think a woman is just
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as much of a woman if she has a cups or nothing as compared to like a woman who has double d's
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i'm not suggesting that but there there is this sort of argument that like that people want to
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say oh well that's um you know you're attracted like there's a physical component to attraction
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right yeah and so i i sometimes guess where i get somewhat confused is like
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you would agree that there's a woman who can be like who's who can be 18 but she can have
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all the like typical markers of say i mean look people can be super curvy at 18 and be completely
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flat at 40 right but i don't know uh i don't know where i'm even going with that argument well
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there's a different can i say brian there's a difference between statutory grapes as opposed
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to like actual you know i don't i don't want to say the i don't know what so so i think a lot of
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times women you see um a 18 year old and you're like oh well you know she's still a kid it's
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actually not they have all the working parts probably around 12 13 and you see these girls
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kind of throwing themselves at these guys because they have all the working parts by the time they're
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18 they can date whoever they want I mean when do how how where are we how are we playing this
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whole legal age like I mean you want to make it 25 I mean you want to make it 26 20 like you know
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That's kind of a straw man, because I actually don't think that I'm not making that argument at all. I don't actually believe that like women can't date whoever they want. I think they absolutely can. You know, you have the freedom to date and do whatever you want. But the question was about me. Do I think that it is strange? And I'm just saying that, yes, I do. I'm answering the question. I do think it is strange when a much older man dates a much younger woman. I think that there are generational differences. They grew up in different times. I just find it to be strange.
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I think you you are literally dating an agnostic you are dating a man so let me ask I think your
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relationship dynamic is more objectionable than say a 30 year old dating a 19 year old and they're
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both like I said like 20 years but they're both but I said 20 years okay so fine 35 year old dating
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a 19 year old uh but let's say they're both equally yoked and they're both like the same
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denomination of christian and they have complete alignment in all values i think that that's they
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have a stronger similarity than you do with your boyfriend who you've been like dating for a year
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who's still agnostic and isn't getting on the christian train yeah that's probably but so you're
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engaging in a relationship dynamic where you guys have completely contradictory uh like values no
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Okay, hold on, because you're not in the relationship.
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You're just going off of what I've said, which I understand, obviously.
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No, he was going when I started going, and then he stopped for a little, and then he's going again.
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okay you're dating a man like you're full full you're you're on the train you're on the train
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he's not on the train yeah and i understand and i think that i'm at a time in my life this is why
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again i'm not i'm not married i'm not having sex because i don't want to have it i don't know that
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i'm ready to have a child either this is another thing that you're 24 you gotta start pumping them
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out no i'm not you're ready no i'm not ready in the sense that i'm not married i don't have like
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Like, I'm not going to bring a child into this world that I'm not ready for.
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Yes, yes, I am agreeing that I'm biologically ready.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yes, absolutely, but not at this point.
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I'm biologically ready now, but I'm not ready in other areas.
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If your contention is, you don't have things in common with her.
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You yourself find yourself in a relationship as a Christian woman with an agnostic man.
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That's like massive differences in values.
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So if your objection to age gaps is, whoa, like you guys are just really different.
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I don't think that the value difference is as substantial as you're making it out to be.
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yes the religion part is is a is a central part of my of me it's huge yes of course right but
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i think that we align in a lot of different areas through a lot of different you guys like the same
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bands so i think i think if i'm dating a 19 year old girl and she i don't even know any fucking i
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listen to pearl jam okay i listen to good music i don't listen to this whatever whatever you guys
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have now i don't know what's what's like a popular the fucking rappers uh gross disgusting
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so okay first off well red flag if she listens to rap but that's another conversation i don't
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know what she's listening to if i'm dating a girl and she listens to something else
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that seems like a minor thing compared to like you and your boyfriend have major uh
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what what what's the word for this yeah and we're not and guess what we are not married
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and you said values is not important you're dating the guy yeah what is the purpose of
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dating if you're a christian what do you mean what like you're just doing it for the funsies
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yes to marry but i right but you know you know like the catholic church does not forbid people
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from marrying people outside my their faith my my parents my mom is a catholic my my mom is a
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catholic my dad is an agnostic they have a very happy healthy marriage okay so i don't think that
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is like a contender like i have to be is it ideal would i prefer it yes of course i would but i'm
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not absolutely smacking it off the table i'll tell you right now i i would not date a muslim man i
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would date an atheist over a muslim man sure and he's religious and he has a god that's fine can i
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ask you a question yeah are you hoping that he changes yes are you trying to influence him no
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not influence i never and he would attest this i've never once like it's always been on the table
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I've never once tried to force it or whatever, nothing like that.
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Of course, I'm like, I'm invested in the relationship because it's been two years and maybe there
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is like some, I'm flawed in this sense that I am feeling like, wow, I've invested a lot
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Like, I hope he, you know, becomes Christian and I'm just holding onto this hope and maybe
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it's never going to happen and maybe eventually it will fizzle out and it's not going to work
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But I, but I am, you know, I, I do love him, you know, he's my-
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two years and so if you're just dating to marry why don't you get married um because I don't think
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we are I'm well we're just not in like the I don't know I don't know it's just it's not the
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right time I'm not in the financial position to make that decision what's financial about marriage
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what's financial about marriage I think I don't know I'm just feel like I think I really have to
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be set I don't know I just I'm not ready to get married now I don't know how else to answer that
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you're not ready or is it that you're not sure he's the one i probably a little bit of both to
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be honest dump that poor guy dump you gotta dump oh you're not the one you've been dating for two
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years you're not the one and you're not getting no play bro so wait hold on hold on hold on hold
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on so you're a christian woman and you're sitting here saying he's not getting any play so do you
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think that i should be having sex with him outside of marriage as a christian woman yes i think you
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should be she's got a good point no i think she should be going in the direction of trying to get
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to a place to have sex with and you just literally said that you're not ready no no no because now
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my words are being twisted and i want to i want to backtrack no no no listen listen i love this man
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i love this man i really do tiffany sorry go ahead i love this man but i have had we have been
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struggling recently okay so it's hard for me to sit here and be like yes 100 you know what i'm
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saying like struggling yes wait didn't you say he's hold on look i don't know the guy i don't
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want to throw him under the bus didn't you say he's being like verbally abusive
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turning off the pc yeah pulled out this poor girl is twitch streaming all these subs are coming in
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it's because he's not getting pussy i know no this was actually this was actually a thing
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before that believe it or not okay all right i was gonna say he's so frustrated he's sexually
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frustrated give the cut the guy some slack yeah maybe i'm not that good of a christian but you
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should be trending in the direction of trying to get him to get some uh no what so you're saying
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that i should break my break you think i should so you're saying i should have sex outside of
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marriage i'm saying you should get married and be in the direction of getting married or get lost
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bro like what are you doing this what does he want i don't think he knows it's a very like
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listen women love that aimless boy this is a very okay so hold on this is a very this is a very
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complicated situation that this panel is trying to act like we know everything about the chat i'm
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shore everything it is very complicated it's not black and white there is so much to it that i can't
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say that that's not that's not understood and i think that i'm i would i honestly would let i
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don't want to talk about it anymore because he is free to leave he is free to leave that's what
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you're not understanding he is free to leave you're not i'm not holding him hostage i'm not
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telling him he has to say he's free to stay in the relationship let me play something for you
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but for now this wild buck has to roam free or he will die let him go he can he can leave this
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will be a first on whatever look into look into this camera say bartholomew it's over i'm dumping
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you no break up with him right now no let let him he can leave i don't know you're not understanding
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about this can you go to a massage yes i hope he does you know i'm talking about yes for handies
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oh i don't think he he doesn't like that he doesn't want to do like he's not interested in
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that stuff he doesn't even he's like he's on the same boat with me with porn and only fans he
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finds it disgusting so w boyfriend w boyfriend he is and i love him thomas i love you so much
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thomas w thomas maybe stop slamming doors look if she's streaming you know you don't gotta
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rip the thing out you know by the way it could be bad for the computer i'm just saying you know
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You don't want to just turn the power off.
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You could damage the computer or some shit.
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All right. Back to the age gaps. Anyways. So let me ask a question. Let me ask you a question. All right. So look, I'm not on dating apps, so I'm not like setting my filter for like 18 to 21. I'm not going to college parties so I can mack on some fucking retarded 18 year olds or whatever. Right.
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let's say a 19 year old girl dms me i'm not going out of my way she dms me she's hot
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she agrees with me on everything she's based big labia should i should i from your perspective
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turn her down should i turn her down how old are you 37 but i read at a 34 year old so you're not
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you're a grown man you probably have a beautiful
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okay but so this is my personal opinion i think but should i turn her down from your perspective
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um like is the moral thing to do no no i don't think you necessarily should turn it her down
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i just think it's weird but that you should people not do weird things it depends on the
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weird thing being in an age gap relationship uh i think people are free to do what they want to do
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okay if that as long as it's you know okay but so you agree that with with me that people are
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free to do only fans um oh so this is where hold on hold on in this society yes descriptively you
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would have to agree that women do have the freedom to currently currently descriptively that's true
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But you have an objection and you would say, women, you should not do.
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So in this case, would you tell me, Brian, even the woman, the 19-year-old woman who DMs you and she's got a huge labia, Brian, you should turn her down because she's 19 and you're unk.
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I think, honestly, I would, yes, I would say yes to that.
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I just don't think you have any business with a 19-year-old.
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This is my personal opinion, my personal preference.
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Do you think it's contradictory from a moral perspective?
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Is there anything in Christianity that forbids age gap relationships?
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I think it's more of an anecdotal thing because, you know, when I was online.
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tiffany i'm get off your phone t-dog focus t-dog get off asian connection or whatever
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asian dating app you're on tiffany and google the aristotle quote wait i think i have this
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somewhere wait let me see if it's in the discord can i ask a quick question well sure um do you
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agree the same uh adult woman older woman dating a younger man it's also she's probably she's
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probably consistent on that um wait is would it be in the memes are you know are you sure you know
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what i'm talking about t-dog yeah it's the the the age gap recommendation from is it socrates or who
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is it plato aristotle pull it up i thought i posted in the discord somewhere but i guess not
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Okay. You, Tiffany, make it bigger. This is not it. Hold on. Well, it is, but there's a different
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one. Aristotle, the ideal age for marriage in men is 35. The ideal age for marriage in women is 18.
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That's Aristotle. We are Aristotle, the intellectual philosophical titan. We are
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standing on the shoulder of giants okay okay we are peons compared to aristotle the great mind
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what do you think about what aristotle has to say that's not 20 years are you going against
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aristotle i mean i what is that an appeal to authority i don't it is an appeal to authority
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yeah so are we logical fallacy so i'm not responding to that well you can certainly
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to respond to it, but, um, I do want to appeal. I'm going to appeal to Aristotle, you know? Um,
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but, uh, yeah, ultimately here, let me change it up a little bit. Convince me why I should date
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a 35 year old over. I don't think you should actually, especially if you want kids. I think
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you should date a younger woman, but I don't necessarily think she needs to be like 18,
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19 i think you can date like a like 20. maybe 21 maybe like the drinking age i don't drink
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though so i don't care about that um i don't either same me neither all right we're a good
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match i guess she she blurred she she added that in i have a hot topic for you half uh half of the
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united states half of the 50 states allow underage marriage and kids what do you think well i'm not
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interested in that um so the i understand that in certain states the age of consent is lower than
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18 i have no interest in that uh we're talking about adult relationships 18 and over i guess
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it i guess maybe i should reframe it to say like i think it really depends on the um woman and
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her maturity level would i still find it weird objectively from an outside perspective without
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knowing anything yes just as a lot of the people here probably think that my relationship set
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and we should break up with each other and like we hate
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each other and all these things you know you can make these
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you're going to pull that up because this is the actual
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uh we have the true quote private chat drag it and then you're going to click on the image
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you're going to click on the image so this is from his work politics book 7 chapter 16
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let's pull it up go ahead tiffany click on the image click on the image
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uh women should marry when they are 18 years of age and men at 37 then they are in the prime
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I'm at my prime. Here, how about we change this up?
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What are the benefits? So, okay, would you agree
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are we all trying to get the best that we can get
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are we all trying to no so people will intentionally pick a less optimal option
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oh yeah what hold on oh you mean in relationship when okay when presented say you have
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access to two options oh yeah and from an individual level you think one option is optimal
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right yeah will people intentionally pick the less optimal option if they haven't if they have
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the uh option of a better option oh yeah people do it all the time with all kinds of things
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really yes people choose to watch porn in marriages that's a less optimal option than
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having sex that's not what i'm talking no but okay or like as a woman here i'll make it super
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simple you could date a guy who makes a million dollars a year all things being equal or you
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could date the guy who makes a billion dollars a year all things being equal do you pick the
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the guy who makes a million or the guy who makes a billion well in that situation yes you you i
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would choose the person i mean so we're all trying to maximize for what is the most optimal
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so our take i there are certain situations where that's not true though okay yes do women pick like
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abusive pieces of shit over like the kind of boring dutiful guy absolutely women are retarded
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in that instance not all women some women don't yeah so but women women do pick the most optimum
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guy because they're the fuck are you retards doing back there anyways um okay so the woman
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picks the like jerk asshole bad boy guy yes because in terms of the most optimum decision
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for her he's the most attractive objectively you might argue well he's not the most like from an
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outside perspective but she finds him to be more attractive than this other guy right so in this
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case i guess i'm what i'm trying to get at if you're not even willing to concede that generally
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speaking people want the best that they okay i don't it depends on the situation i can have a
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conversation with someone who can't just acknowledge like yeah brian like generally
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speaking a man would pick like yes generally like a big fat ass and big titties and who's
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got a fucking beautiful face over like a cave troll i cannot have a conversation yes that is
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true but so in this instance if we're all trying if we're all moving towards trying to get the most
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optimum the best thing we can get why would somebody intentionally pick a worse option
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just because of the, like, I don't know, the optics?
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Okay, so realistically, all things being equal,
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there's a 30-year-old woman and a 20-year-old woman.
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Tell me the benefits of picking the 30-year-old over the 20-year-old.
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Well, that's not a big enough age gap, I feel like, for me to.
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I'm sure you would say it's more acceptable from your perspective
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for me as a 37-year-old to date a 30-year-old as compared to a 20-year-old?
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Okay, so here, I'll change it so you really, okay, she's 19.
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What are the benefits of picking the 30-year-old instead of the 19-year-old?
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I think for me, I would say, I think there is a, like I said, there's a generational similarity.
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You've experienced some of the same life events.
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As opposed to you being a grown man or when she was a child, a baby.
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I think being a similar age to someone, you have more commonalities.
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I think my main argument comes from a generational standpoint.
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But I didn't try to date her when I was an adult.
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I'm trying to date her when she is actively an adult.
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You would thus have to have some sort of objections to, like, say, because you can narrow the age gap, and then all of a sudden, like, a 25-year-old dating a 20-year-old, even that narrow, maybe you object to that even, that narrow of an age gap, well, when he was 20, she was 15.
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Are you okay with 20-year-olds and 20-year-olds dating?
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Are you okay with 20-year-olds and 20-year-olds having sex?
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Okay, but at one point, they were both seven and seven.
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At one point in time, her argument is essentially.
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generational her argument no your argument was whoa okay well you're now 40 but when you were 20
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she wasn't even alive no i didn't mean that as an argument no no no no that wasn't no no no that
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wasn't the argument the argument was that you grew up in different time periods it was like
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a general a generational difference not that like at one point you were this age yeah that's what i
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would say it was okay but so these cultural touchstones yeah are very low priority when
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it comes to dating so first off also if a girl really feels you she's gonna start liking your
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shit yeah and also I can put like it's kind of nice if I can uh share media that I like and I've
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curated with a woman and it's like because that's exciting to me I can put on my favorite movie and
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she's never seen it I actually think that that's kind of cool even if it's a girl my age oh you've
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never seen that you've never seen this movie you've never listened to this thing you've never
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listened to free bird by leonard skinner you've never listened to pearl jam you've never listened
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to you know xyz music or whatever you can put them on good music you can put them on your music
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you can put them on your shows and your movies and you can watch it with them and like fucking
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season three game of thrones red wedding you can see her in shock so i don't know this idea that
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okay she she doesn't have the same cultural touchstones it's like i don't care i think
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that's one of my arguments but i think my main thing is that i personally just find it to be
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weird and i think you're trying to get me to like it just gives but is it morally wrong um
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it gives you the no okay so it's not morally wrong there's no more i don't think it's morally
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wrong but i think it's weird and that's just my first why is it i already i just find it weird i
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just find it weird i i think like a lot of the time maybe it's and i just kind of assume that
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maybe the person that's older doesn't have the best like intention. And that's kind of where my
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mind goes automatically when I see the age gap. Best intention. Let me ask you a question.
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Beautiful 19 year old girl slides into my DMs and I'm in a place financially where I'm basically
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ready within one or two years of dating to start having kids and we're ready to start our life
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together. Would you rather see a 19 year old girl? And look, I understand that there's other
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dynamics that, but this is just the hypothetical. Would you rather see her in a loving monogamous
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relationship with a man who's 35, for example, or would you rather see her do what a lot of young
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women do say she's in college, which is fuck like 20 dudes her freshman year who are her age, by the
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way. Now I understand that there are women who are 18 who can have monogamous relationships with
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18 year olds what would you rather see definitely the the first option okay now let me ask you a
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question would you find it acceptable as a justification like for example let's say
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are you okay with interracial dating yeah of course okay if i the my only reasoning for being
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against it i'm not against it but just for hypothetical sake my only reason like when you
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take it as enough of an argument to like be convincing i just you know interracial dating
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is weird is that sufficient enough for you to convince you it's so i'm not trying to convince
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you at all you you asked me the question i'm coming off i'm saying it's my preference so
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i think it is objectively weird that's okay i'm entitled to it wouldn't be objectively weird it
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would be subjectively yeah sorry subjectively weird that would just be my opinion okay but
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my opinion then you you couldn't have any possible objection to people finding interracial dating
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weird um i think people can find that i think actually i i i think a lot of people find it
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weird and you know i don't think a lot of people find it weird not the majority yeah yeah yeah not
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the majority but a lot of people as in several people you're scared to say it's weird that they
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find it weird but it is weird i think people yeah people find it weird so and i find age gap
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relationships depending on the circumstances and i put that in the notes i said depends
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depending i didn't just circle it and say flat out i think it's wrong and or weird i guess i
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just what is the benefit to the man to date an older woman i'm not saying when did i ever say
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that there was a benefit right but so if you're going to try to like i guess encourage less age
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gap relationship. No, I'm not trying to encourage at all. I find it weird. Like, I don't know what
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about that you're not understanding. I find it weird. Okay. I'm not encouraging it. I'm not
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advocating for it. There's a justification for why it's weird. I think, yes. And my justification
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would be in my, and this is anecdotal. This is my experience. I've found men who typically go
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after younger women. I find that their intentions are not usually like getting married, having kids,
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having this family whatever if those are the intentions i think that's great but do you really
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think the man that she's with a 50 year old is with her to have a family and start kids no come
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on no i also don't want kids either i'm getting my tubes cauterized okay but the intention but
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what like okay i'm not even gonna go there but i'm just saying like i think that his um motivations
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Or, yeah, sorry. No, like, no, I mean, like, just based on my, um, no, yeah, sorry. Subjective. I'm getting the words mixed around. My subjective outlook, my, my, me looking in on the situation from what she said, I think that that man has no business with this young woman.
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He doesn't want to marry her or have, put a ring on her finger or have kids or anything.
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My husband is seven years younger than me, and I'm 42 now.
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He would have liked to have more kids, and I mean, we have tried.
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We've had two, but he's working with biology, and had he known what we now know as we go
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down this journey of getting out of our victim mindset is he would say the same thing.
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bro have lots of kids marry someone younger i don't get offended by that like at all yeah that's
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the reality yeah i'm not offended by it you know it's interesting that if an older man dates a
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young woman he's a creep but if an older woman dates a young man she's a goal um no i'm sorry
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if a young woman dates an old man she's a gold digger wait i never said that old no i know you
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didn't but i'm just saying it's interesting that that that mentality exists i think men are
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statistically more likely to be you know pdf files yeah no say that one what do you know like men are
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more likely to go after younger women for nefarious purposes so i think that's probably
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wait what that's what what see i'm saying maybe my mind has kind of like because i've researched
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so much about you know porn and all these things i i think that the um men are oftentimes the no
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that's not it's not that i think i know that men are oftentimes um the perpetrators of um wanting
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to be with younger younger women not what does this have to do with age gaps but also i mean you
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see no she said that she said that women are looked at of being like or like that men are
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seen as being creeps but not women and i'm saying i'm answering the question as to why that might be
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is because more like it's more likely that the men in these situations are you know no but what
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she's i think trying to suggest if you compare like for like there's typically less like societal
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objection to like female predators basically they get far less harsh prison sentences um like
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there there's a component especially with like teachers where a female teacher who's uh predation
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predating predating who's uh abusing her student or whatever that gets like a bit of a slap on the
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wrist legally both legally but also societally like it's far less um negatively appraised than
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the male teacher who's doing that with a female student yes i think that's a problem obviously
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right it is a problem but i mean actually when it comes to the teacher component you were saying men
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do this more often and it seems like actually but there's a whole bunch of statistical twisting that
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that occurs like on the teacher front it's like all women who are fucking the students yeah it's
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like almost but what percentage of this of this like um of of women or what percentage of i don't
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know what i can say so i'm going to say like what percentage of women who commit these um i'll say
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things like um who commit these uh instances these these things what percentage of the of
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the teacher thing is a is a part of the whole of like all child's you know what percent of the of
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the of the you're you're mentioning like the teachers are more often women right
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correct when they do this but what percentage of these women are in the whole of i'm trying
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like well you also have to factor in that uh men who are abused or boys who are abused by women are
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far less likely to report it than the counterpart a lot and it's a lot of it's going to be hand
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waved away too so you have to do you do have to some of them are even praised yeah you have to
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factor that anyways um i'm going to move it on but i've not heard a convincing argument of why
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I wasn't trying to I wasn't trying to convince you. I wasn't trying to convince you. You were
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trying to get me to convince you. Not really, I guess. Yeah, you were. Okay. No, not really. But
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you spent a lot of time on it. So I think you were. I mean, it's a dating podcast where we
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discuss these topics. So is somebody banging on the floor? Whoever fucking is doing that. I don't
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care who it is. Please stop. Let's see. We have Haley. Who's Haley? Oh, with all due respect,
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Brian purposely chooses girls that are stupid just for the quality of the show.
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The first guy you were dating, he wanted you home by 3 p.m. and have homemade meal ready to go.
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Which you felt was too demanding from you since you were in school at the time.
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He was blue-collar, so I suppose he was doing, like, HVAC work, and he was...
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Okay, so he wasn't, like, paying for your rent or anything like that?
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but now with me being in my career and everything i'm all for wanting to be at home at three o'clock
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and have dinner ready and all that uh at 40 over here uh you describe yourself as a gooner what do
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you mean by that that's um on my bio um i think it says gamer gooner patriot um and it's just kind
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of like a little bit of a segue saying i do do only fans okay uh but you consider yourself
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conservative no okay well uh politically you have some i suppose conservative conservative
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maybe values um i think i you're not socially conservative but you're politically conservative
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politically republican okay so um i did see on your x and ig you have some pretty conservative
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takes so can you just fire off all of them and so i'll give you like two to three minutes to do it
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but I need you to bullet point them for me and just give us a stream of
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not even just this week, but like your primary main takes.
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I like to talk about how we view history through an oppressive lens and how
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history is always like, you know, slavery is white people did this.
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we did this overshadowing like what we actually created like you know it was the 250th anniversary
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and so people were trying to take that away and they're like what are you what are you proud of
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I'm like what do you mean look around us we're a free country there's so much to be proud of
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um I also like to talk about how the 14th amendment the birthright citizenship um how Trump tried to
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get that over written and then it was like no anyone born here can have an anchor baby I'm
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against that um i also like to talk about i like to watch a lot of cop slop so i like to go over
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those um what else do you like to talk about i don't know anything that like i kind of just see
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and i i do some research on it and i'm like actually i don't like that and i'll talk about
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it on my live streams or i'll just post about it on x immigration immigration um i think we need to
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close our borders i think uh illegals need to get the hell out of here and i think we need to get
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rid of anchor babies as well okay um you wanted to talk about single mom dating oh yeah uh so i'm a
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single mom um i've been a single mom for two years so i would say that that influences my dating
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sphere a little differently i also do only fans which is another niche just to like figuring out
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who i'm going to be dating and what value they're going to be bringing into my life
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um and now my son's life you have an ick list why don't you tell us about that
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i don't even remember everything i put but i did put um if they don't like the whatever podcast
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that's an ick um i said if they were liberals uh that's an ick um if they're socialist communists
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that's an ick if they don't like asmund gold that's an ick um if they don't like video gaming
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that's an ick and um god i don't remember what else i put i just kind of kept going oh if they
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don't have a zombie apocalypse plan that's an ick oh true true um okay uh let's see if they're rena i
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guess we can go back you're happily single um celibacy tattoos what about tattoos did you want
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to talk about i am planning 19 tattoos and you have talked about like 19 correct do you currently
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have any just one hidden one a what one hidden one what is it where uh it's a yin yang koi fish
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because i mean if you've got a yolo tattoo you've done some shit yeah i'm not even i swear to god
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she had it she had a yolo tattoo right on her pubic area was it nice looking at least it was
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just text so not really i guess but yeah i was like you know what i'm good yeah i changed my
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mind sometimes you got to walk away from pussy you know you know what i mean you know what i
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in all right so okay you're gonna plant tattoos yeah so you did you did have um a group of women
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who were all tattooed i think in like a tattoo show that was interesting but um you did mention
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tattoos and body count but i guess i can't comment on that because i'm asexual i'm just like saying
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i'm planning quite a few tattoos yeah i mean generally speaking it depends how many tattoos
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where the tattoos are what kind of tattoos for me tattoos are not a deal breaker but
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tattoos are either neutral or negative a tattoo is never positive never positive for me it is art
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but it is neutral at best negative or just negative um the preference is minimal or the
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preference is zero tattoos no tattoos or minimal tattoos um it's not a deal breaker if a girl does
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have tattoos it can be depending on what where how many to a point obviously i don't think i'd
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want to date a girl with face tattoos um probably don't want to date a girl with neck tattoos yeah
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i don't think face neck and hands and all that are a good idea i don't know how big oh neck is
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kind of cool sometimes look how big is the light how big is the light what is that is that like
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Who has an innie, who has an outie, labia?
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I feel like if you don't know what an outie is, you probably don't have an outie.
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no he's talking about that oh oh so i know i thought he said i'm old i only date women uh
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so on the left who have audis that's yeah i'm old oh no so who has an audi i mean you can pay
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to find out uh i'm good but not you oh okay you'll show me after on the your only fans i guess what
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you have an audi yeah liar you're a fucking liar tina you have an audi oh there was there was
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Wait, did you raise your hand? Do you have an Audi?
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an Audi. It's like guys who lie about having a big dick.
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to me. Oh, I've got an Audi. And then they send
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These fucking girls are trying to trick me
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Since body count did come up, though, what's your body count starting with you?
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aren't you dating a new guy though no it's an old guy so you're still seeing okay you already
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cracked okay body count zero 27 okay um i uh i want to be a professor so i don't want anyone
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to find this and like say anything so i'll just say less than 10 possibly well no yeah less than
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10 nine okay no it's not it's nine she told me privately one hand wait sorry eight eight
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okay one hand that's all i'm gonna say one hand lost track a long time ago
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marry somebody with the past y'all but no i lost track um when you say you lost track
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let's try the ballpark hit 50 plus lost track brian 100 100 plus
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girl girl don't stop with me girl let me tell you what here have you okay do you have you don't have
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like history of like any sex work or anything no like no only fans or stripping or escorting
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nope nope so you were just doing it for the love of the game that's what i'm telling you a lot of
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these girls out here is hoeing and then they looking at this chick i wish i had paid i wish
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that's what i'm telling you you guys a lot of these girls that you're looking at as a young girl
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got all the working parts and they busting it down i was a god mom i was a god mom to one of
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my friends in elementary school who had a baby wait um that's an interesting question i guess
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when did you lose your virginity i'll answer this one i i was 17 uh 16 you said 13 what about you
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I want to say it's between 15 and 20, but I kind of don't remember.
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One of the surprising things I got out of this show is how many handjobs and blowjobs girls give.
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Like, I won't give a blowjob unless I'm going to receive anything.
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But there was this one girl who just, oh, last show, the girl with the crazy hair, right?
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So is it normal for girls to give out handjobs and blowjobs?
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Is your blowy count higher than your body count?
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Do you mean, if I have one man and I'm, yeah, then I'm doing it.
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Have you BJ'd somebody that you did not sleep with?
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You wrote political divergence in your notes, but I thought you weren't political.
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what do you mean by political diversions oh political never i think i accidentally wrote
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that um bro sorry you accidentally i think like i said that was it was a typo what were you
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meaning to write you're fucking typing uh i'm sorry let's give her grace oh my god okay
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You said the ideal traditional girl does not exist and never did.
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You said the nuclear family is a concept less than 100 years old.
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Religions are just an institution for control.
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but you're catholic you got to scoot into the table you got to scoot in
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you're catholic and you hi hi i just prompted you hi that was a prompt do you have a response
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wait did she say she was catholic yes she did but you said they're trying to control us
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you said you have celebrity crushes johnny depp nicholas cage trent reznor and jim carrey
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well i'm not sure if jim carrey's a crush i'm just obsessed with him okay do you think
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the you are in their league like could you smash i mean they're a bit older you know so maybe
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i think everyone likes johnny depp but sometimes i have uh crushes on people who
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what you don't just go ahead don't who not everyone likes so there's less competition
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is that what's not the question you wrote okay i don't know um would you smash any of them
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no just celebrity crush wouldn't smash okay you prefer traditional 1950s american dating which
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is what you think brian talks about on the other hand you like being able to be bold and forward
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so when you say bold and forward what do you mean like talk to approaching men
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to what end if i want to talk to them in furtherance of what
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like you want to just talk to a guy just for the sake of that momentary conversation
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no like more conversations leading to an asexual yeah relationship where it's trad
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but they don't get sex but they have to do everything no the trad thing is i'm talking
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about just curious how did you lose the tooth i was born oh you're born without it yeah
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i think i i think i told you about that in march you invited me here on march in march
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i think we're all uh char she left angela let's see uh you said on the dates you've
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been on men look past you and not at you yes you get the impression that the need to have
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a partner for social validation is greater than the need to actually be what do you mean by look
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past you so um you know you're sitting at a table and they don't ask you specific questions about
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you so i choose to tell them about myself and they're not like totally into it you know looking
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literally looking past me at what's going on behind me versus you know being up front so this
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goes back to our previous discussion where like i think men have this desire to have someone
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but not just because they want it but just to feel validated like a normal man with a woman at his
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side okay um i'm gonna move it on uh going to crystal uh you wrote girls are out of control
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do you want to elaborate on that yeah i just i feel like there's a lot of dating horror stories
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and just listening to men i i love kevin samuel and just hearing um how women are just vocally
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just bashing men and if a man would were to have some of the same requirements for weight or same
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requirements for how you eat how you look whether you have makeup whether you have weave I get killed
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a lot of times because I wear weave um you know it wouldn't be acceptable and so I really do think
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that we the pendulum just has swung too far where we're bashing men and and I and I just don't
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I agree I agree with you like I think men should be far more supported um you know like there was
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a conversation where andrew was like i don't see women picketing for men well at some point women
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weren't even picketing for women so i think men should also speak up a little more and in a
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non-aggressive way and and say i want to be heard but they are talking non-aggressively and they're
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not being heard though right i agree listen i i think i think women have done a disservice to
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women i don't think they've and and i also believe men at the same time all together i think people
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could do better and um but women have not done a good job representing themselves because where
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you have one one person who respects men and want to be there for them you have others who are like
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who are really dragging them into the dirt really ruining their lives just to be mean
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you know like I grew up um being told to watch out for for boys be careful with boys but then
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I had my daughter and I had my son and then I realized I told my son watch out for girls yeah
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yeah it's the girls that are just shysty I mean they're a lot of them are nasty like I would love
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hey ladies I would love to go into a girl's bathroom and not have to see your pee pee all
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over the toilet I mean like it's really gross yeah and it's so funny that you said that is
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is me having a son I had to realize that because I grew up like I don't I have two sisters and I
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grew up my mom and my my father wasn't in the home my stepdad stepped up so I'm grateful for
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that but we didn't have and my stepdad has two daughters so it was just always women so I didn't
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see this perspective but then when you raise a son and someone is you know like basically saying
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that men are scary men are this watch out for men and and um i know that i'm raising a gentleman
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he's amazing um and just to see the pick of the litter of what he has to deal with with some of
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these women women are bossy they're mean that's why in no disrespect to you sis but when you said
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women mature um faster than men that's the lie that's been told my no that will not be the case
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with my son my son is a mature young man that i have raised and i'm putting him out there and i
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don't want any woman to be like telling treating him like a child and men have got to take their
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power back i i specifically um me and my husband we talked through this and it's like it's not even
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feminism it's like weak menism like men have got to say no absolutely not you don't you don't mature
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faster than me. I'm a grown man. No, I don't need you to do all, you know, all these things.
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And you for sure school me if I'm wrong, but I found that a lot of men just randomly find
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themselves in a relationship like, oh, I found out I'm married somehow. Like, I think they take
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a backseat in a lot of cases. I think they want women to be the breaker uppers because it's just
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easier that way um and you know if they if it's just hard though like why would they want to step
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up and deal with a woman who they know maybe is a little chaotic maybe is a little aggressive why
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would they want to when she's just gonna eventually hopefully see him for who he is and then let him
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go but we women have been propagandized literally we are told that we're special men should love us
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just because we're beautiful in all sizes like i mean it is just not true like even myself like
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i'm like i need to lose a little bit of weight i saw something that said if your if your wife or
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your girlfriend gains a whole bunch of weight on you like she doesn't respect you we gotta get to
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a point where we we add beauty to the world that is our job we don't build houses we don't do
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anything we add beauty to the world and we're taking even even that little bit away i have a
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I think relationships can stunt people's personal and professional growth.
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Well, what if their goal is a family unit, so then it wouldn't be stunting?
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Okay, with the idea that people grow themselves,
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do you think a person at 20, a woman at 20 saying, okay, I want a family,
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do you think in 20 years after they've had their family what what then what's next then she has
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maybe grandbabies maybe something else to look forward to I agree with you but I feel like a lot
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of people let that happen when it doesn't need to happen sure I mean like in relationships you have
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to make concessions right but what if a concession could have meant like you were way where you
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wanted to be so you're saying a family stunts your growth no I didn't say no I'm asking I said
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But relationships can sometimes, well, I didn't say that initially.
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I think by the nature of relationships, to make it healthy, you have to give contention.
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But isn't that up to the individual to take accountability for their own evolution throughout the relationship?
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But that doesn't negate the fact that it can, that doesn't negate the fact that you could be somewhere further, except that you can't, whether it's, you know.
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well you got to be intentional like intentional about the person that you love and caring about
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about each other like we need to get back to that but i i do agree you get in a relationship and you
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just don't try anymore you don't try to be pretty you don't flirt with them i try very hard like
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i don't want to be that girl and you guys this has been an evolution i'm auntie at this point
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i'm 42 so i'm trying to school you guys like i don't want to be that girl that was busting it
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wide open at at these ages and then get in a marriage and act like i'm sister mary clarence
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like no you don't do that to a person that will cause the person to like want to choke you out
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and i'm not i'm not advocating for it but it's very frustrating just a reminder guys we're casting
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women for the podcast you can dm at whatever on instagram if you're interested also get me to a
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million followers on my personal ig brian atlas x we're 40 000 away i think we can do it we should
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most likely do it before the end of uh july so that'd be a cool little milestone to hit one
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million on the instagram also guys if you're enjoying the stream like the video always remember
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a big labia matter uh i'm gonna lower the tts here we're gonna do maybe a bit of a roast
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tts is going to lower to 69 69 tts 10 will still be the display and then pull up twitch really
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quick t dog big t thank you man uh guys drop a follow and a prime sub on twitch i know we got
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1200 watching just on twitch so i need all of you guys who are watching us on twitch who are not
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following you need to push all these followers down that's the little pink hearts or whatever
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on the left you gotta push all those down i need to see just this minute this minute this minute
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this minute push these guys down let me see three prime subs boys you guys are gonna re-up your prime
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sub i'm holding this shit hostage until i see three prime subs there's one nerd hq thank you
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for the prime let me see two more prime subs and i'll bring it back to the show and i will ask tina
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No, because you're going to say some retarded shit.
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you're gonna you're gonna say some retarded shit tino so no you can't ask me a question after the
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show you can ask me the question how about that no no no it's my uh about me like personal question
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not about you i promise i promise okay so you you checked my um profile right on instagram
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yeah you check it what about it so i have a question um a lot of men they ask me if i do
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only fans or not because they think my pictures posted on instagram are too over do you think so
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like like too sexy looks like a of girl like what do you think so i think it's normal i think you
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do something no i think there you do something that you know no no no no i think you might be
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an escort if you want my honest opinion no i'm not i think you do escorting but i don't think
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you'd admit it that's my impression and i saw you do we had this girl on the show i think her name
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is dj sakura who's like she's a porn star i don't know her i don't know i'm pretty sure you have a
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photo with her no no no like so you associate with and she's chinese i think no she's korean
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i think but you don't know her yeah i don't oh i thought you don't know
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wait wait i i what's your um she went to the podcast right you know who we're talking about
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yeah i think i checked her profile before so i know yeah she's a sex worker
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And I saw the video, she was a porn star, like a man, something, they took a video together, so I know her, like the face and the name, but I don't know her like person.
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But look, obviously, look, you could, it's possible you could associate with sex workers and not be a sex worker yourself, but like you can somewhat look at who you surround yourself with and try to draw inferences from that.
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it just gives it's giving escort i don't know if you're an escort oh i think it's really normal
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so i think that women who and look this is maybe me judging a book by its cover um i think the
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plastic barbie thing that i think more likely it's more likely a woman who's done a lot of
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plastic surgery more likely than a woman who has no plastic surgery generally speaking is going to
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be involved in some form of sex work it's not a guarantee i'm not saying okay you've you've got
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fake titties you must be a sex worker no but i think that when you start getting compare a woman
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who's not vain compared to a woman who's very vain greater likelihood that she's involved in
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sex work it's not a guarantee so do you want to tell us something
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no okay okay let me ask you this have you ever
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had sex with a man and then afterwards he placed a stack of money
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near you has that ever happened no never the way she said no i know you're right
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no never i mean look i'm the whole whisper nothing gets by me actually that's not true
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you can be duped men even if you think you got it good you can think you're dealing with the
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kind of girl and look i don't know tina i don't know i'm not you may you may be you may not be
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i don't know but you do post fairly revealing photos you travel quite a bit especially for a
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young woman and there was some dispute over what your actual age is but uh i think i believe your
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age i think but you travel a lot you have a bit of a i think i showed you my green card picture
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before i know you did you did verify that but uh although you could get a fake one i suppose
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no it's real i don't know it's just you know there's a couple hints that make it today i
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can't show you right now and so i've already seen it it's okay maybe i should do a poll for my what
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do you what do the women here think do you think christina here may be a escort i have a question
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for you how do you like make your money like how do you afford your surgeries and stuff from my
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parents oh they pay for it i mean that's really like that's a normal thing in uh china what do
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your parents do are they in china i know my mom is here okay and your dad is in china yeah and
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So, she just said, in her spare time, she is an escort to very wealthy businessmen.
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But look, in her defense, you know, she's not a street walker.
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she only works yes i am i'm a street worker yes she has a very exclusive clientele very rich
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asian men uh occasionally you know she's but she's done some some some shit in africa too
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like warlord type shit you know like warlord where you're not sure if it's a country
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Okay, would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
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white men or asian men white latino or asian men white
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okay what's your favorite asian uh like country yeah
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korean guy korean guy yeah and then what about japan is japan above china no oh no
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Actually, I don't like Chinese and Japanese.
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Okay, would you rather date Kim Jong-un or Brad Pitt?
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Would you rather date Kim Jong-un or Donald Trump
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Would you rather date Donald Trump or Xi Jinping?
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You're going to get in trouble with the Chinese government for that one.
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Okay. Would you rather date your German? Oh, boy. You're going to love this. Hitler? Just kidding. Would you rather... Here, we'll do... Would you rather date... I think we've got to go with Hitler. Hitler or Donald Trump? Yikes. This is a terrible question. Into the mic.
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Yikes. Okay. There we have it, folks. Would you... What's your background or whatever?
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Would you rather date an illegal immigrant or Barack Obama?
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Okay, would you rather date a Smurf or Vladimir Putin?
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You do stuff in the space area, is that correct?
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Would you rather date an astronaut or Donald Trump?
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Who's the Buzz Aldrin when he was young, though?
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like he just got back there's still moon dust on him oh then buzz of course of course of course
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all right would you rather date malcolm x or martin luther king definitely malcolm x would you
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rather date the lead singer of all my chemical romance or afi
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oh so the gerard uh way wait fuck gerard way is that my chemical romance yeah and then
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fuck who's the afi lead singer it's a dude with a with the i think he changed it i guess gerard
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okay good talk i don't know where i was going with that uh let's see if there's we're gonna
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do rapid fire questions here i think i pretty much uh there's one last thing for you there was the
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the situation in your high school i think that's the final note i have i think you're dating a guy
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and high school cursing story tell us the quick version of that oh my gosh so i see things so
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differently now but i was on the phone with this guy that i was dating shout out to him i don't
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want to say his name on but um he i was on the phone and i'm you know i'm ghetto i'm cussing
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i'm this and it's an ad or i'm fussing and then i say a curse word and like and he literally that
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clicks and hangs up the phone on me and mind you he's like 60 we're 16 17 and so I knew he hadn't
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called he didn't hang up on me so I called him back I was like did you hang up on me he was like
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don't you ever talk to me like that again and I was like he he he weak he this he that he's a
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bitch he's a this he can't take no girl and now I see that that I I will always remember that
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and that's what girl guys shout out to him because that's what guys have to do like now
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it's just i'm you're not getting ready to talk to me like that i told my son that uh you are a
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reflection of me so if you cuss in public it embarrasses me so he probably does it now with
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his friends but he did not for most of his 23 years no but i'm talking about them accepting
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a woman or a young girl like it starts very early you guys like i'm like let's say i'm 16 i can't
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remember but i was 16 and i was we would had just started dating and he was like you're not getting
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ready to talk to me like we men don't put us in our place like that i think it's good behavior
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checks are good i think across both sides you know by the way guys we lowered the tts 69 tts
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for the rest of the show so if you want to get a roast
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a doormat or the guy was a doormat and the guy didn't say that's wrong he didn't have the courage
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to say hey that's not acceptable you can't do that and then they start thinking that that's
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acceptable way for them to behave in other relationships but what they're going to do
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is they're going to fumble it with a a real guy and they're going to fuck it up but i think some
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women have this, this idea that you're going to, you're going to raise your voice. You're going to
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yell at him. You're going to say disrespectful things. And some women have had relationships
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where maybe it's mutually toxic and they're fucking yelling. And then it's like, you got
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to understand, like there are men who will, some men will engage in that. They'll engage in the
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mutual toxicity, but other men will, it's over with them. So you can't get, don't get it twisted.
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like, Ooh, okay. I'm going to do the toxic thing again. Now you're going to lose the guy. If you
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do that. Yeah. And some, some women y'all got a, most women aren't like this, but sometimes y'all
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got a mouth to you. But imagine, you know, um, I had a, I had an instance, I forgot when this was,
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I don't know. I had this girl who, uh, who got a little lippy with me and she had flown out to
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come see me. Like she paid for the flight, whatever. And, uh, she was just kind of causing
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problems. Uh, this was, this was a long time ago, long time ago. And she thought like, I guess in
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her last relationship, it would be this constant toxic back and forth. And I'm the type like,
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And she thought I was going to be the guy who was going to do the makeup
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thing. Oh, it's okay. Blah, blah. And I cut her off. And it's like,
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back to your, back to your life, back to fucking
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Kansas. You're going to, you're going to have to go home.
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Tell, tell your dad, you lost the millionaire because you were
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it's like you you were fucking mouthing off to him good job i agree with you yeah how are you
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going to mouth off how are you i don't know yeah a lot of these women are raising these single
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parent households and i and like i said i was raised by a lot of women and that's and a measure
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of a man was how much he could take you know us just going and like you said you run into a real
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one he gonna shut it down and it may not teach her the first second time but like you said she's
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gonna lose that millionaire and she's you know but all of this is noticeable before you take the
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person you're as your partner like these are evident behaviors before you said okay not always
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there's some women that hide their true selves until after the fact but if you're a student if
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you pay attention. They tell you who they are. Agree. Agree. True. I've had girls who hit me up
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and they'll, they'll have an expectation that they like, they immediately want good night,
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good morning texts. But, but the thing is, look, I think as a woman, uh, I don't think it's wrong
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for women to want that, but you should not try to exert your will onto me to accommodate your
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desire. First off, we're not that far along for you to even get that thing. Like literally girls
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I've never met with, they'll DM me or whatever. And, um, cause I do get women who'll like slide
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into my DMS or whatever. And they'll like, I haven't even fucked this girl. I haven't even
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met her in person and she's nagging me about you're not texting me enough it's like shut the
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fuck you are not in a position to tell me the frequency with which i should be responding to
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you or messaging you i don't owe you anything and even if we were dating for two years if in my
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determination i don't want to text you today you should fucking deal with it like yeah it's not
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your job as a woman to whinge and complain to me about my lacking of just sending you an arbitrary
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good morning babe like i don't know i don't know y'all ask for too much y'all ask for too
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too much that's why i don't believe that men should pay absorbent fees for a first date
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my co-host he's blanchard he said that if he's gonna go take a woman on his first date he was
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like we're gonna walk we're gonna go to the park we're gonna talk i'm not getting ready to spend
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hundreds of dollars on you men have got to take their power back as like what i said like no
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i'm not spending a hundred beans on you i don't know you if if women want a man to be a leader
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you got to be a follower it's not your job as a woman to tell me how i'm supposed to lead
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that's not your position your job you're you're not supposed to be trying to microman oh you're
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not sending me good morning texts and we've never been on a fucking date like shut the fuck up
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you're definitely not supposed to change someone no but it's these women oh you don't care about
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me it's like we don't we haven't met bitch like i don't know you i don't know you and women will
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literally blow up the entire thing and they like i'll know what women are trying to achieve at
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least with a guy like me like i maybe some guys are going to kowtow to it oh i'm sorry i should
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i'll change it's like do you know who i am do you think you're going to be like brian we haven't
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ever been on a date we haven't met i haven't sucked your dick i haven't fucked you but you're
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going to give me a good morning text every single fucking day and we haven't even met that's crazy
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you're going to tell me you're going to tell how are you you think you do you think that's going
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to go over well for you or is it literally going to be like oh okay hey um that's not your place
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to tell me how i should move you don't yeah okay you got maybe i might tolerate it if i have three
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kids with this woman oh brian can you please and she's got to ask nicely brian please send me a
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good morning text maybe if i'm feeling generous if i have not been inside you you need to shut
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the fuck off you should not be telling me brian i need a good morning text bitch we haven't met
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we have not met so i've had multiple women do this i don't know what where in their mind they're
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thinking they have the leverage to do that and then what i don't know what they're trying to
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achieve though like do you think this is going to go over well when you we haven't even met and
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you're already nagging and bickering with me how's our relationship gonna look hey thank you for
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the dm goodbye block nice to know you congratulations you nuked you nuked whatever
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could have been you you message me you dm me and you want to nag me already and we haven't even met
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crazy they're crazy and they they literally um they just nuke the entire thing and i'm like i'm
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sorry i'm we haven't met and you're already doing this it's over goodbye and those are red flags
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that guys don't even pay attention to that they want access to sex so bad or they're just not
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paying i want to ask the people in the chat have you guys because i don't know if it's just i i've
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ran into some crazies have any of you guys ever dealt with a girl and maybe you met her on a
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dating app or you you know you haven't even met the girl whatever you meet her online whatever it
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is and she's she's given you flack for not sending like good morning texts and y'all haven't even met
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have you guys had that experience because i've ran into like three of these chicks
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and it never goes like i don't it never goes well for any of them i'm just like ah thank you for
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revealing yourself to me goodbye like goodbye it's over so you were trying to get more of me and then
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you got nothing yeah congrats i guess i don't know i don't know i don't know it's crazy but should
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like should we talk to each other every day or he texts me every day no like i mean um we already
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fucked and hang out together and know each other a long time like should he text me often if you've
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already been dating but but it should not be like women will be upset about it i think it's okay for
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woman to be like ask for it politely but when you criticize the man and say you're doing something
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wrong and it makes me upset that's not gonna be like for a guy who some guys might just fucking
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puss out on and i guess how to ask well do you even want that like okay the arbitrary oh good
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morning okay like if the guy isn't doing it yeah to begin with yeah then you're just forcing his
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hand to do it to placate you like some guys just aren't it depends also like i'm an older guy
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right i used to have a fucking flip phone yeah like i'm old school i'm unk okay i'm not into the
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whole constant text conversation. I'm a busy guy. I got shit going on in my life. I don't need to
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have a conversation with you over text. Okay, cool. Come over at 6 PM. That's really it. Now
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there's other things that you can get into, but like these couples that they're like texting for
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two hours a day, like, Hey, how about we hop on the call and I'll talk to you for five minutes
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and everything that would be communicated in a two hour back and forth text conversation could
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could be communicated in a five to ten minute phone call so for me it's just a waste of time
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to be like oh we're gonna send like thousands of texts back and forth every oh here's some
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fucking memes like what yeah but she can send me memes and i'll not watch them she can send
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me reels and i won't watch them i guess i'll tolerate it but i'm not gonna like send her
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i don't know maybe i'm maybe i'm fucked up i don't know the super young generation now though
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like my son's generation and younger, like there's no disconnect. Like they'll, she'll go home and
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call and be on the phone as she's going home. Like there's no disconnect. And I think that's
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so unhealthy. There needs to be some separation a little bit. But girls don't even realize,
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I mean, you're a million, like a millionaire. And if she's trying to date you, like I love
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Kevin Samuels because he's like, you think you're better than all of the men you qualify for. If
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you're a millionaire how do you think he made his millions like by being busy by working but they
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just kind of feel like you should just stop everything that you're doing center your life
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around it and if you did that brian they'd be like broke you used to broke dude like you used
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to work all the time and now all you do is do nothing it's like you can't win if you're a guy
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like it's confusing i don't know where i am on that like either they're too busy or you know
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well I think people alone if they have a lot of time on their hands um I think they you know they
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have a lot of time to focus on the things they don't have if people generally busy themselves
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I don't know getting into hobbies things they like maybe progressing so that they're not focused
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on how lonely they are because I do think there's a lot of lonely people out there um but I also
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there oh my god tiffany oh geez all right um let's see here any other topics from anybody
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before i do the rapid fire segment any other things any of you want to talk about speak now
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forever hold your peace um are you guys against video games when dating because i know that that's
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like a topic absolutely no i actually prefer that i do too yeah yeah yeah okay cool yeah um speaking
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of which and i didn't get the chance to say this but um god this is gonna be so bad tell me if if
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you want to move on i'm totally okay with it but speaking about white people not defending each
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other and their race and if i said that you were racist i didn't mean i went to say you were raised
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something i can't remember but um derek chauvin shout out to him free chauvin he is in jail and
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And almost every single conservative person knows that George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose and he had four, I mean, he had three block chambers in his heart and no white people are even defending this poor man.
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I definitely think his conviction was politically motivated.
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There's, I think, I think that there is things that can contribute to finding him not guilty.
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I don't think, because I think it was the toxicology report, the autopsy, I don't think, and look, I didn't investigate the case.
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Based off the toxicology report, the guy was on fucking fentanyl and other drugs.
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And, um, I don't think beyond a reasonable doubt, you could prove that he died because of, uh, the position that, uh, the police officer had in him, had him in.
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Um, yeah, free Chauvin, because you see Austin in the Austin Metcalf situation, like, uh, Carmelo Anthony literally stabbed some.
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and black people are in the street defending him.
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Like even if you felt like he did something culpable,
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uh we have captain hold on captain caros he gifted 25 two times thank you for the gifted uh
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twitch subs man thank you for the 50 man that's huge uh w's in the chat over there on twitch for
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captain caros thank you is your argument that carmelo got too much time my my argument is i
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don't i don't think he got too much time or anything i think the jury made the right decision
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but you have black people saying that he didn't deserve it he needs to appeal he should have
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killed both of the the boy or unalive I don't want to say like he's like black people are literally
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actively defending this this terrorist this little boy who just going around and unalive these this
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young man and if they can do it for somebody who you know is guilty he said he was guilty on the
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tape why aren't white people like thinking about this poor this man who's service to his community
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he probably serves only black people and he's now in jail for the rest of his life and almost
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everybody kind of knows that he did not kill his his knee was on george floyd's shoulder and it
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was politically motivated like why aren't we talking about that i think there are definitely
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some people in the conservative side who who are on board with like white conservatives who are
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definitely on board with freeing uh derek chauvin um wasn't it a jury that convicted
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uh him yes yeah a jury also let oj simpson um yep yes yep found him not guilty when it's like
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yes uh there's pretty strong compelling case that he did in fact uh well he's dead right oj died
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I'm pretty sure recently um but yeah I mean definitely the Derek thing that's and he got
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stabbed right Derek he got stabbed while he's in custody I mean so much things and I mean even if
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you believe that he did something wrong like let's say you say okay well he should have lifted George
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Floyd up when he said he couldn't breathe even though he was talking and everybody knows that
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when you're talking you can breathe let's say you feel like he did that do you feel like a man who
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has served his community should get more than five years if anything you could say it's negligence
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unless like nobody's talking about it this is when i say don't you don't defend your own like
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well so i i think part of it also is there was there's so much uh political uh political
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motivation to find him guilty because i think this is the issue with the trolley dilemma so
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do you find an innocent man guilty of a crime if that can conceivably stop like mass level of civil
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unrest because had he been found not guilty now to be clear i i think he should have been found
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not guilty uh but had he been found not guilty there would have been like serious political
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and social upheaval again i'm not saying it's i'm not trying to make the argument that would
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be unjustified but i can see why jurors might be afraid like okay well like hundreds or thousands
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of people are going to die because there's going to be mass riots because they found this guy
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not guilty um the question for all of you when it comes to the trolley dilemma is
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say you were a judge and say you were the one that not the jury sometimes i think they're called um
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is it bench trials or what's the word for you can do a trial where the judge yeah makes the decision
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Yeah, I'm not I don't recall off the top of my head the exact legal term for is it a bench trial chat?
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And I do think defendants in the United States, I believe they can opt to let the judge make a decision.
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And this person, you know, privately, you know that this person is innocent.
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however there's so much will from the people to find him guilty because they just want
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they just want they think he did it they think he did this crime but you know
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he didn't but you know that if you find him say uh you find him not guilty of the crime
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you you hear from protesters that they're going to go out and lynch people if you don't find him
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uh guilty and you know you know definitively that thousands of people will die in the ensuing
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uh protests and riots do you find the man would you would you choose to convict a man who you
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know is innocent and send him life in prison to prevent riots and thousands of possible deaths
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no i wouldn't i would quit that's not one of the options
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no the question is no to convict like no i would not convict him would you find him guilty or not
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guilty um i i i would find him guilty wait wait wait hold on let me just make sure i understand
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okay so you find him guilty yeah even though you know he's innocent yes but in so doing you prevent
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riots and uh that that could that that could or in fact will you said kill a thousand people sure
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it'll kill a thousand people the riots yeah so i think there's an option where nobody nobody dies
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Okay I'm going to come back to that but let me get the answers
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yes of course there would have been riots massive
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you know there's there's but you're putting a number on it in this in this dilemma that you're
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giving me this hypothetical you're giving me a number you're saying a thousand so you would do
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the morally wrong thing to prevent a thousand deaths i think i would want to if there's an
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option that saves like it's a utilitarianism point of view like i would want to save every life
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possible and in this case scenario i would be doing the wrong thing but just like i would be
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pulling the lever for the train to kill someone i'd be doing the wrong thing there too um i would
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want to save the most amount of lives that's the issue is christians are punks let me ask you this
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hold on let me ask you this let's see if let's see if uh this changes anything so um
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knowing that uh trans people what's okay i don't know what's going on back there uh knowing that
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uh let's say would you be willing to uh a trans per how do i frame this the best
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what's your position on trans people um i think they have gender dysphoria and that yeah but
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knowing that uh misgendering trans people might induce them into suicide would you then be willing
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to say that um a trans woman is a woman uh no but it would hold on the utility the utilitarian
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would argue that this would prevent deaths if you were to affirm their identity no but but i don't
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i see there's two so the hypothetical you gave me i'm directly responsible for the deaths of
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these people if i make the decision not to incarcerate this man no you wouldn't be directly
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responsible for their deaths i would be approximately yes but but if i made this
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decision they're dying so i am like i'm yes yes so in this situation i don't i don't i'm not
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responsible i would say in in in the sense that if i misgender someone and they are offended by
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that and they choose to commit suicide because of that that's something that um that's like
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from their own, you know, mental health issues and things like that, that I'm not going to be
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responsible. I don't consider myself responsible for that, but also, yeah, yeah. So I'll just say
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that. Okay. But so just to be clear, you would find an innocent man, uh, guilty of a crime if
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that saved, uh, a thousand, you know, hypothetical people from dying. I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't,
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I don't want a thousand people to die. I don't want anyone to die. I know that what the decision
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is wrong and that okay well you should never be a judge white people yeah you're essentially
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playing god yeah well this is a hypothetical let me ask you a question how about this um
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would you rather uh would you let one man free wait hold on how do I want to frame this um do
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you think in the interest of justice uh you have to imprison an innocent man but uh if you don't
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imprison him he's innocent you let him free uh you also have to free like 10 murderers
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well just because they're murderers that doesn't mean that they're going to recommit
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um they're serial killers okay so they will 100 recommit wait this is hold on i'm i'm butchering
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i'm actually butchering this uh this thing here um what's your idea of justice
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i'm fucking it up do you haven't like what's your idea of justice then if
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you're not gonna serve justice well this is a hypothetical i know but i'm just curious
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this is like a random like hypothetical question like this is not leading into any of my my
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my real world views about specific things because this isn't this is not something i'm never going
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to be in a position to make a decision to kill hypothetical question do you think that if you
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okay so if you were in prison if you would you rather live the rest of your life free
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or be in jail for the rest of your life but a thousand people die i'm a free person so you
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would let a thousand people die so you could be free i'm a free person yes so yes you would do
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that okay i wouldn't do that i would choose to spend the rest of my life in jail if it means
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that a thousand people get to live. Okay. So that's kind of my perspective of it. I'm not,
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I don't, I don't, I don't think that I need to, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade my life and
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I'm still living in jail. Like I would still be alive. I just wouldn't be free. Right. You know,
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the sad thing about this is this is actually happening now. There is a real life example
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of a bench trial that happened. And this, this black woman murdered unalived her 15 month old
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baby and the judge let her off. She stabbed her husband. And there has been no talk about this
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because I do believe these politically motivated judges feel like they're going to be cool and
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they're going to be accepted if you let these things happen to people. And I believe you
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shouldn't be a judge. How about let me change it up a little bit. Let's change it up. Instead
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of you being the judge in this court case you uh they you are a witness to something
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and you were the only one there and you know that the person being accused of this crime did not do
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it but you were the witness and you know if somewhat similarly if they don't get uh found
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guilty there will be riots right you're all you're put on the stand and asked to falsely testify
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well you could opt to falsely testify against this person and say they did murder this person
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or they did do this x-crime whatever and in so doing the person will be found guilty because
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of your testimony and the riot will not happen and hundreds of people will not die would you
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bear false witness no and i would be under oath so but what so what is the difference so on one
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hand i don't understand the difference but you said there'd be riots wait wait so you would find
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him no i like i think i think it's very very simple okay i do not if i if i have a choice to
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not let anyone die but make a morally wrong decision versus let someone uh let a thousand
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people die but make a wrong decision like a morally wrong decision of convicting this person
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i would choose the one where a where a thousand or nobody dies okay that's my i just i i want to
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prioritize life so okay so you would uh you would falsely claim that the person did commit the crime
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in furtherance of finding them guilty no wait but but you said right you said riots like yes
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riots resulting in in death right in 100 deaths but you need to lie on the stand in order to
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secure the conviction and you do so knowing that if you don't if you he is not convicted of the
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crime it would result in riots that would lead to 100 deaths if i'm ever on a stand in real life
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not in this hypothetical pretend world listen if i'm ever on a real stand i would be honest and
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truthful about everything okay you are giving me a hypothetical where i know a hundred people are
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gonna die and i can choose to not let anyone die i'm going to choose to not let anyone die
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and so you would lie if nobody dies yes i would oh my god her mexican side you're not understanding
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no i am understanding you're not understanding yes i am because it's this almost the same thing
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as the judge one it is but but uh 900 plus people die yes i understand but 100 people still die
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versus life in prison for the guy who you provide false testimony for?
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I think I would be, and I recognize that what I would be doing is wrong,
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Okay, however, you're inflicting a severe injustice on an innocent man.
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No, I think, okay, the fact that you, this is crazy, you guys are, like, actually thinking
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that this is, like, a measure of me and everything over, like, a dumb hypothetical, like, situation.
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Like, oh, my gosh, like, laughing, making faces, like, oh, my gosh, I'm trying to understand
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Yes, and my logic that I've explained multiple times is I want to prioritize life.
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If I can choose that nobody dies in a situation, but I commit a moral wrong to save the lives
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of many people, I would choose to commit a moral wrong to save the lives of many people. That is
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a utilitarianism point of view. I'm going with that. You can have your own points of view. That
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does not change the fact that I'm ever going to be in this situation that I, that I'm a white
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person, that I'm cooked. Like that literally has nothing to do with it. How about this? Let's do
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this. I'm impressed by the utilitarian. So do you think, um, it's the correct moral. Do you think
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is is it better to let uh and how's it go to it better to let 10 guilty men walk free
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than to imprison one innocent person to let 10 guilty people walk free yes and then
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wait i'm sorry sorry i just got like can you repeat the question okay hold on 10 here let
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me google it so i'm not butchering it uh 10 10 guilty one innocent something like that um
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the black stones ratio it is better than hold on it is better that 10 guilty persons escape
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than that one innocent suffer do you agree with that or no or in order to get in order to secure
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a conviction against 10 guilty people we should indeed and in fact find one person guilty so as
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to secure the conviction of 10 who are indeed guilty i don't understand like i'm i'm confused
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so here i'll repeat it so this is uh this is um a principle and it's stated as follows it is better
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that 10 guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer so in this case okay the 10
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guilty people they don't get convicted uh so as to not falsely convict the innocent person yeah
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and that is the moral position that i understand i think that again i think yeah i would agree with
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that um because i would say that like you know it's no there's no lives being lost in that
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situation again my my well there could be though because if you do potentially free these 10 guilty
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people they could go on but we don't know that crime in this hypothetical we don't we don't know
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so then i would go with if i if i don't know which is the real world which is the reality
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because i don't know i would you do you do know the following like there's high levels of
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recidivism amongst people who yes but crimes but that's but i but that's not a hundred percent
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you know like it's individual based so i would say still i would go with the decision to not let
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the one innocent suffer and let we have a tts coming through by the way 69 tts guys if you
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want to get it in charles sterling donated 69 didn't black lives matter come from the george
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floyd thing and wasn't there already a lot of riots from that and didn't the co-founders of
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black lives matter just take the money and buy mansions yep that actually happened that actually
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happened um let me ask you a question uh thank you charles sterling for the tts appreciate a
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reminder guys 69 tts um how many men are you willing to kill to prevent one rape
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um none i'm not willing to kill any man man not you yeah no i'm not willing would you be willing
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to sacrifice one male life to prevent one rape no this is why women should not be in government
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government has to do the most amount of good for the most amount of people so you would kill a man
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to prevent a rape what i'm saying is an innocent man would you kill an innocent man to prevent a
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rape i said no you would also say no to that so what about me not being why me not being in
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like this you literally answer the question the same as me so like what i mean like these are
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hypotheticals like it's not that serious yeah i think i think what i'm trying to say is how about
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this though or sorry okay no no no i'm saying i'm just saying um you do the most amount of good for
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the most amount of people and so yes wait wait how about this that's my logic let's make things a bit
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more challenging to prevent 10 deaths would you allow for one rape to prevent 10 deaths yes
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why is that so surprising like to prevent 10 people from dying so you would rather what you
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would rather a one rape for 10 people to die let's make it more complicated like it's your sister
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what it's my sister the victim of the rape like i know like oh my gosh wait okay go ahead go i don't
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want 10 innocent people to die utilitarians don't care who it is they just care about the number
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we have too many people up at the table right now i guess can we do guys i don't know what is so
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surprising like this is such a common philosophical idea idea i don't know you guys all think the
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same and there's one person here that doesn't and you're all like what like are you kidding me like
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oh my gosh get a grip not everyone thinks the way you do and that doesn't equate to me not being fit
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for politics me not being fit to vote me not being fit for women being cooked white people being
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cooked like are you kidding me there's so many false equivalents so you're pro-life an abortion
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doctor uh is on trial for murder you know you're the judge and you know definitively that he did
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not commit the crime if you let him free he will proceed to uh he will proceed to perform
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thousands of more abortions in his life so more lives would die so thousands of more lives would
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die my answer is not changing okay okay so you keep asking me varying like you keep asking me
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varying hypotheticals of the same idea i have utilitarianism a philosophical standpoint
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i i try to in my ideal in my ideology i want to maximize life okay but you you are doing this
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sort of con in terms of uh principles of justice uh even if finding someone guilty of a crime or
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not guilty of a crime led to riots and could conceivably lead to tens hundreds or thousands
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of deaths in the interest of justice and being principled you would find the person uh say not
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guilty of the crime you would not if they're in if they're innocent you would find them not guilty
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that is a principle of justice in this hypothetical that is not an it's not a it is not a characteristic
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of how i view justice it is a philosophical hypothetical question to which i have stated
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multiple times that I would maximize life. It's that simple. We're overcomplicating this. You're
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making it out to be like that. I, that I'm, you know, I don't know that whatever you're saying,
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like I, I, I want to maximize the most or that I don't have whatever just, you have a time machine
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and you, you're, uh, there's a serial killer. You could murder them as a baby to prevent the
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deaths of say 20 people would you kill the baby um see that one no i don't want to kill a baby
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but it's gonna hold on but from a utilitarian perspective it would prevent 20 deaths yeah i
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know but it's like uh that's one where i'm like i don't want to kill a baby well how about this um
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the baby is on a a railway track and you you don't need to like stab the baby you can just
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You can pull a lever, and the train will just run over the baby, and you don't have to even see it.
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Are there going to be babies that die if I don't kill this baby?
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You don't have to be in the room with the baby.
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You can just press a button, and five days later, the baby will die of a heart attack.
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you don't you don't see anything but it kills the future serial killer baby and then the serial
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killer doesn't kill 20 people do you kill the baby well does the serial killer gonna kill babies
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it'll it it kills part mexican women like baby hitler half mexican women yeah well i don't know
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i i don't know i don't want to kill a baby but i would say it would probably take more of the
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We got sidetracked there with philosophical justice.
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now before i do rapid fire okay uh ready tiffany all right the question is would you date the male
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version of you just give me a quick yes or no yes you didn't even wait to
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wait with the beard yeah i would look sexy as fuck
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I just laughed because that's not what I expected, but yes, I would.
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But in my defense, I like my actual picture with the beard.
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oh yeah no no i mean okay yeah i like you with the beard
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yeah that's a fine oh boy all right next okay yes uh-huh you got a boyfriend that's me that's
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Dedicated to not sinning and convicted to the faith.
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Considering all the people who think that I'm a fake Christian and are policing the faith.
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my editor told me I need to stare into the camera for 30 seconds okay okay you
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you stare with me into this camera right here okay hold on just I know just be
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What do you think? Repeat back the question that you think I asked.
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she managed to convince you and the table that she's not a troll but she has to be a troll right
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chat what do you got no what do you guys think that has to be troll i just can't tell you knew
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all the like cap or like you knew where all the countries were in certain like cities yeah
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that's true and then he said not to list america or united states sorry and yet you did it
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and you're sexist and yes in texas and everything yeah sexist in texas
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i thought you were saying that he was sexist and you came with like ideas to argue or debate him
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and then now it's kind of like i don't know where your head is yeah i mean you do seem like you're
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playing dumb right now a little bit can i go again huh can i go again
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there's something somewhat unsettling about this woman that makes me somewhat
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Germany, Italy, France, Switzerland, Mexico, and Russia.
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Poland, Czech Republic, and, oh, gosh, Finland.
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Turkey, Chad, Thailand, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, and Nigeria.
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uh russia denmark uh did someone say germany already i already said germany and russia
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uh well fuck me then how many how many continents are there
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i want to say 25 continents wait wait wait wait wait i just okay i'm so sorry
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letter answer consonants oh shit maybe like i want to say like seven
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i'm so bad at geography okay tina how many six how many continents seven seven seven can you
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tilt your mic down seven seven okay now i'm feeling confident now six seven six seven
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The government building the Pentagon is what shape?
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back. I need to step away for just a minute, but
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If you guys want to talk about the topic while I'm gone, feel free.
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Why was everyone getting so sassy with my utilitarianism point of view?
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It's because it's different from all of our others.
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Okay. So you were willing to put people who had actually already killed free for someone who's not done anything wrong because you wanted to save the lives.
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So one of the questions was, if you had a handful of murderers and they were to die,
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or one guy would go to jail who's innocent to stay in...
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i said the pentagon was a hexagon i'm really sorry about that my biggest issue my biggest issue
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with um what you said is um i don't i have an issue with the whole utilitarian because
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it it's complicated and and um that viewpoint is just like oh i'm just going to save the most
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amount of people and and i just don't think that that is a healthy way to run a society
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um and we were specifically talking about the riots the george floyd riots and i believe that
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a police officer who has served um i don't care who riots i'm not going to make a decision
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i mean if people die they will go to jail and i will lock up every single one of those people
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and, um, you, in order to do the right thing. So for me, that position is like, um, instead of
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doing the right thing, the easiest thing. Does that make sense? Yeah. But I still, I would say
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that I, I guess like your position would be like, you're doing the right thing. I think that in a
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sense, yes, I would be doing the wrong thing from like a moral stance, but I also feel like I would
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be saving the lives of several people which to me is um like is a good thing you know so
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everybody don't need to be saved i mean seriously like like like and and for me um i believe that
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that the whole writing thing in and of itself bothers me because why are we in a country
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that is so powerful and we're allowing people to hurt people kill because they don't like something
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like that in and of itself um that issue has to be addressed but i don't think that it is because
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of christians because of white people they don't want to seem racist and that's why i said not you
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in particular but i'm like the white race is cooked if they don't want to make a decision that's so
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simple just because people are going to get upset and they're going to riot lock those people up
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Well, it was about people not getting upset, but dying.
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Biggest schizo-Christian of all time award goes to.
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Can somebody stop shaking the table, please?
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The continent that Brazil is in is Mexico.
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i have no idea i'm so sorry tina i remember this it's africa yay what continent is japan
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asia final answer are you sure you don't want to change it no you're correct
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how many dimes make a dollar how many dimes uh 10 what is the capital of france
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what country is immediately south of the United States
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What is the name of the famous car company founded by Henry Ford?
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henry ford i don't know tina here how about just throw out a car company
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mercedes chevrolet chevrolet henry ford founded the chevrolet car company
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all right if it takes and i'm gonna skip that one uh five times five
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25 12 divide by three four hundred divide by four
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25 15 plus 35 for you oh me um 50 90 minus 45 45 how many branches of u.s government are there
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for you next to me um three name one branch of the u.s government is that federal no i don't know
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dude one branch of the u.s government one of the branches me no you next to me i don't know
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you don't know no uh name one executive name one i don't know name one branch of the u.s
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government that she didn't already say i don't know what just played off and you just saw there
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it is okay what document begins with we the people you should also stare into the camera
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too during these moments oh my goodness it's not it's there it's there it's somewhere in
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the brain oh my goodness isn't it like the most important document there is it's like the
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independence pack or something like that i can't remember its name oh my goodness tina
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alara declaration of what okay how many stars are on the u.s flag
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splits uh i want to say 25 no oh oh i gotta count you're gonna count the stars
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we don't have time for this tina how many how many stars are on the united states flag
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what galaxy milky way milky way all right how many how many in one dozen
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what do you mean like 12 it's 12 and one dozen you sure yeah i'm sure
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tiny how many months in a decade for you um how many months in a decade oh um so 12 times 10
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What country did the United States gain its independence from for you?
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What country did the U.S. gain its independence from?
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jefferson jefferson jefferson okay what country is the great wall of china in starting with you
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china are you sure well it's a great wall of china so it would be in china
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i'm pretty sure like there's a miami in i think i'm gonna go with china isn't there a miami in
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oh yeah miami of ohio yeah it could be in multiple countries you're very persuasive but i'm gonna go
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You've been to Idaho and you don't know the language that they speak?
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uh if a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg for you next to me oh god i skipped
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you got think about it do the mental math no i will take you on a raid and wow but i'm not doing
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math you have a boyfriend playing video games doesn't mean anything it's very intimate oh it's
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very intimate uh take me on a raid what are you gonna what are we talking about kid take me on a
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raid you need 40 people to raid come on that's crazy all right uh what is the closest star to
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earth the sun final answer are you sure yeah there's a lot of stars i mean the sun the sun
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do we see there's stars out right now but you don't see the sun do you right think about that
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did you ever think about that i didn't know the moon is a star too the moon is not okay thank
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goodness no but i'm saying like think about it right do you see like are there stars in the sky
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now that you could maybe see. No, because the sun's behind the moon
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flight. You're right. We're currently in a lunar
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just throughout the country yes just say a country it's like stupid as fuck no just guess
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just guess a country you don't know i don't know say i don't know i don't know she doesn't know
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can you believe that all right uh what language do people speak in spain
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spanish maybe alara spanish what do you think spaniard i don't know spain there
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yeah probably spanish that sounds right what country is mexico city in
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what mexico are you sure what me yeah i have i don't know i've never been to mexico so
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maybe no but what country is mexico city in i don't know maybe mexico maybe mexico america
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Well, I guess there's multiple Santa Fe's, right?
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Because New York City is different than New York
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It's just New York City is like all of New York
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Oh we already did this I guess but fucking whatever
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I don't know, maybe, like, I want to say Puerto Rico.
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i don't know okay uh where what country is lima what country is lima in
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can i call in a friend yeah you get tina tina what is it here just look straight go ahead
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continue i think italy okay italy is my favorite okay uh what country is santiago in oh my god
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i feel like mexico mexico tina ben spain santiago spain my favorite okay what country is tijuana
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what what country is baja california america america america usa mexico
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mexico sweet what country is shang shanghai in i'm gonna say china you oh china you know shanghai
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uh tokyo what country is that in starting with you me um wait someone said it before it's in
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japan there you go japan what country i'm gonna skip baghdad because does anybody know where
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baghdad is yeah baghdad wait hold on uh you next to me what country is baghdad in i don't know what
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country is baghdad in sounds indian india so india yeah but i don't know so india i would say india
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baghdad iraq baghdad turkey turkey baghdad afghanistan afghanistan baghdad iraq baghdad
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iraq i literally just looked it up yesterday cool what country is cairo in
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Hold on, there's Egypt in parts of Latin America, though.
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So you're probably alluding to the fact that it's in South America.
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oh my goodness brussels um i've never even heard of this i don't know
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i don't know you next to me i don't know i thought you did
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thailand thailand belgium belgium you are correct what country is copenhagen in starting with you
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copen copenhagen copenhagen copenhagen it's in a country it is in a country okay
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on earth on earth not those moon countries um i want to say
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italy italy okay sure africa africa denmark denmark what do you think
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Why is parking your car like finding a girlfriend?
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thank you i want to respond okay to oh okay sure pull it up and read it it's it's almost
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you should have just bought the um tts church girl is trying to be jesus you are not responsible
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for saving anybody god expects you to speak the truth whether it is hypothetical or not
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you just admitted to directly committing a sin intentionally boom night call roasted
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okay you can hide it i disagree i think i'm not trying to be jesus
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uh obviously one of the 10 commandments is i think it's one of the 10 commandments
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you are not to bear false witness yeah this is a hype this is a hypothetical situation your
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utilitarianism crumbles in the face of god's command yeah i think that's probably true but
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it's just like it's hard for my empath mind to want to like admit to wanting to kill a bunch of
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people so yes but yes uh i i think but you said you would bear false witness is giving a good
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point but but you said you would bear false witness to save a thousand lives yes because
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i'm saving a thousand lives but you're bearing false witness which is a sin i know you are not
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to bear yes my logic is very much flawed i just don't want to have a bunch of people die disavow
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but i'm not trying to be jesus that's not trying to be jesus by not wanting to people to die
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hello yeah and you should have just bought the tts it was literally like three more dollars
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it is god's command you are not to bear false witness i know but you would bear false witness
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me no i wouldn't uh munich what country is munich in uh munich it sounds weird um yeah it sounds
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kind of asian or something i don't know oh you're giving me a hint yeah i feel like you're lying to
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me maybe i'm throwing you off thailand yep it's probably love those thai munich people what about
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you munich what country korea korea you next to me munich i don't know just throughout the country
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throughout the country i can tell you the best way to get to storm with
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Egypt okay Africa Africa that's a country Greece Greece what do you think dude just give something
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give something I don't fucking know Mexico Mexico Athens Mexico a wonderful uh destination
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in Mexico what what's the big um uh what it what is uh I'm trying to recall the the city with the
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I mean, it sounds like Hispanics, so Mexico?
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China, China, China. Sure. China. Sure. China. What country? OK, Istanbul. Thailand. Thailand. Turkey. You. Come on. Come on. What was it? Istanbul. Istanbul. Yeah. Don't know. It sounds like a made up. OK. What country is Budapest in? Budapest. Yeah.
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um i don't know throw your hands up for detroit i love this city
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okay fuck you guys all right budapest budapest yep and that's not what you do to your boyfriend
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okay never mind um budapest budapest country quick country mexico mexico no i don't feel
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like it's mexico paraguay egypt okay budapest italy budapest hungry she studied this shit
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before this is basic knowledge by the way dublin dublin what country no offense is dublin in
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it sounds like netherways or something like netherlands you're right no i'm not i don't
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feel like i'm right okay tina dublin erland erland one more time erland air land yeah
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the land with air what country ireland oyerland oyer oyerland ireland ireland ireland
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i'm gonna go smoke a cigarette i don't know italy sure i don't know don't have some geological
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geological we need history questions maybe uh okay what country how many fucking okay we're
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almost done with the geography ones i guess manila what country is it in italy
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thailand thailand uh you what was it manila i don't know italy italy what about you
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malina manila malina manila now you're getting me confused manila what country is it in
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no africa africa the content the country uh spain spain i don't know does anybody know
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i said i think so where philippines congratulations
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what country is amsterdam in wait wait wait wait wait wait is it london yes
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all right right america wait not you yet you amsterdam close to the mic scoot in
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dude i don't know i i don't like this um amsterdam i don't know fucking germany i don't know
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germany i think you need to ask around holland holland canada canada holland i think it goes
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by the netherlands oh yeah to be you know to be fair but i guess holland will accept it
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what country is oslo oslo and australia australia mexico mexico oslo oslo yes the one i just said
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i don't know australia australia right i have no idea i don't know no idea nope norway norway
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this is where i mixed it up oslo's norway helinski's finland
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would it say it again here i'll give you a hint that may not be uh here lisbon lisbon
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okay where's the hint i'll actually give it after you guess
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you didn't last time give me a hint okay fine um yeah lisbon uh italy
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russia russia uh not yet lisbon i don't know okay i'm gonna give a hint do you know who do
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you know who cristiano ronaldo is no but he sounds awesome like the most famous soccer player um
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oh if he's soccer then he's probably spanish damn i should have changed my answer
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lisbon portugal thank you dear thank you thank you what country is moscow in moscow
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is it moscow i think it's moscow moscow i want to say
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brazil brazil okay tina russia russia i was gonna say russia russia okay what country is madrid
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in yes uh madrid yep i'm gonna go russia russia oh dude um say it again madrid madrid
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um um mexico mexico that's fair it sounds kind of spanish thailand
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madrid spain spain spain there it is what country is london in
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europe europe no wait wait wait that's wait okay sure i'll give you the hand it is in europe
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it is what country in europe though wait i just went there this january this she went she went
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there she went to london and she's not sure where it is in britain you think it's britain
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tina homegirl england there it is what country is stock it's in both what country is stockholm
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in scotland scotland uh next to me what was it stockholm stockholm syndrome um that's right now
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What language, what language, what language do people speak in Mexico?
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Yeah, in Mexico, yeah, I'm sure they speak Spanish.
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If you pass the person in second place, what place are you in going around the table?
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If you pass the person in second place, you're in second place.
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Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
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Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
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I mean, I know it happened on our coast, but I don't know where.
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oahu kawaii on december 7th 1941 oh look at her wow okay wow all right uh what country
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is the eiffel tower in split europe it's in splits tina tiffany europe france racism paris
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or you know it's there that's where sorry what europe paris what country though paris you said
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what country though country what country yeah hey tina what country is the eiffel tower in i
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don't believe them france well eiffel tower isn't paris but uh
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uh what country what country did the vietnam war happen in
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i would say vietnam yeah vietnam are you sure though yeah i'm pretty pretty sure are you sure
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i'm like not 100 but like 89 okay the revolutionary war revolutionary war
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what countries wait hold on i got i was gonna say what countries were involved
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under 10 tina 100 what do you think 34 plus 66 dude um so you got the 66 3 9 uh 70
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who's the current u.s president current u.s president yeah donald trump
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66 uh if you were born 10 years ago how old would you be today
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well but think about it right so if you're like
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tina um same same same same but different but same same how many world wars were there two
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tina three three two two two two two round the table two okay what is 66 plus 44
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okay what decade so when i'm asking what decade i'm looking for you to say the 1750s or the 1820s
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or the 1970s decade what decade was world war one starting with you going around um world war one
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was i believe 1920s next 1850 1850 next 1910s next 1910s yes it was 1910 1910 1910 1910s
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that's like one decade off that sucks next next 1910s okay what was the primary decade of world war
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two um i want to say 1984 1984 okay next it might be too late 19 not decade though decade so 80s
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1980s no i want to say maybe more 70s 70s 70s okay tina uh 1980s 1980s 1940s next 1930s
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Kim, Khloe, Kourtney, Kylie, Kendall, Caitlyn, Bruce.
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who uh okay almost here at the tail end uh have you ever cheat has anyone here cheated just show
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of hands no cheaters you cheated yeah uh how many times have you cheated um twice and two
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different relationships like one for each okay uh so how many men have you cheated on two men
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yes okay uh has anyone here gotten an abortion yeah yeah i have yeah okay you no no okay
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what percentage of men do you think are over six feet um
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i want to say maybe like 20 percent 20 percent 50 50 50 25 globally or in the u.s. u.s.
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What percentage of men make at least $1 million a year?
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five percenter what percentage of men do you find attractive
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i would say because of the age gap thing i think i find like 80 percent of the world
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like 80 percent of men attractive okay one percent 10 percent 20 like 50 40 what's the
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question again skip okay cool 20 a lot of percent probably like 80 yeah yeah what percentage of
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men have yachts probably also on the one percent because they're expensive as fuck tina um 15
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15 you think 15 of men have yachts like the world or only u.s oh it's lower five percent okay what
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what country has the highest percentage of yacht ownership then think morocco
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morocco the fuck okay she should have said some landlocked shit like i don't know what's a
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landlocked poland wait no poland doesn't poland have some uh in the north i think it does wait
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poland i believe has some ocean access in the north if i recall
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what's it what uh what's the fucking gedanks or something what's a landlocked country in europe
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probably some it could be like a balkan state bella
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bella russia i don't know i can't even think at the moment um where were we
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yachts percent of men who have yachts one percent less than one yeah less than one
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Do any of you keep a list of all the men you've been with?
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Have you ever, who here, and I'll answer this one.
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Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
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yes yes i have yes no be honest no i've never done that be honest i'm being hand to god i've
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never done that i'm gonna talk to your boyfriend thomas after this uh yes everybody okay uh what
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is the quickest from meat to smash well like like are we like in meet in person so okay i get you
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meet on a dating app blah blah you talk for a bit from meeting in person to having p in the v
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um how quick one hour a day 30 minutes a day come on be honest yeah i'm being honest those 60 year
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olds you just smash right away right yeah okay six hours six hours cap a million years a million
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here if i would walk 500 miles and huh until they put a ring on my finger well
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as we know that's not true uh previously i'm a christian now i'm previously look you know
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you're at a frat party no never at a frat party never a cute sig ep guy no had a i've never i've
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never met someone the same day and had sex with them okay all right what about you home girl
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mic mic mic i know i hear you jesus uh what was the crap i burned forward okay like a few weeks
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few weeks really yeah liz yeah really liz yes sir okay cool 30 30 minutes 10 minutes oh my god
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five minutes let's come on it's a long yeah what was the shortest what was the quickest
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oh man um no i you're at the hot you're at the third best nightclub in atlanta
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yeah it's i mean like god i had a pass thank you jesus for saving me but yeah it's been pretty
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christ is king yeah you said christ is i thought you said christ is king okay what about you
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quickest smash uh maybe like four hours okay all right who's who's had a threesome here no
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any threesome enjoyers in the chat you've had a threesome don't lie no okay next uh who's had
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a ho phase who's had a ho phase ho phase ho phase what who has gone on two dates in one night
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anybody two dates one night you think so yeah maybe i believe the man should not pay
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Does anyone agree, would anyone agree to do the following?
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If you could snap your finger and all men disappeared and women could reproduce it without men, would any of you do it?
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Is it gay for a man to date a trans woman?
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It can be straight for a man to date a trans woman.
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Well, because they're transitioning and now they're becoming.
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um it's kind of a big giant penis it's a gray area i mean bigger than your ex if they want to
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identify as a woman and then they're with a partner that's a man i mean technically that
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would be a straight heterosexual relationship let's say you walk into a room yeah and split
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second you see a man yeah sucking a penis oh see that's different wait is that straight
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it depends on the circumstances so okay but hold on you're do you know what a glory hole is
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yeah okay so you see a man okay who before sucking the dick said what's your name again
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i'm sorry lilith yeah he's like hey yo what's up lilith i'm straight i'm i'm straight i'm not
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trans right uh-huh and he yells out to you he's like by the way i'm straight and then you see him
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it can happen the other way around too if they're sorry let's okay okay um
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i guess by that standard you technically would be correct but hold on hold on i am correct you're
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saying i'm correct now the person comes around from the glory hole and it's a trans woman
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yeah trans woman with some fake titties and some make poorly done makeup and you know five o'clock
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shadow and a wig but she said she comes up to you it's like hi i'm gertrude i'm a woman
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is this heterosexual act with a feminine penis
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i feel like it would be no different than a girl with a strap on
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it's definitely oh my god bro yeah like i know guys that are attract like the initial
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attraction to a trans woman because they're attracted to females but if you suck in on a
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a veiny nah you're gay but if you suck in on the dick if you're a man if you're a woman
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straight yeah but if you're a man that's gay gay trademark that uh what is a woman
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what is a woman yes um well there's stereotypic stereotypical woman which is like the outer
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features which is the breast and all the other stuff and then there's like biological which is
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like the uterus and the ability to like oh okay go ahead and stuff be gone with you tina be gone
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okay so it just depends on how okay and you also think it could be straight for a man to
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dance a woman what is a woman x y chromosome but how then can it be straight well this that's what
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i'm saying like to me i i feel like a lot of the trans women they they come in harder than a lot
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of the straight i mean than a lot of the men women and so if a guy their initial attraction
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is to a trans woman i see how i mean they look like women now if you're if she pulls out a big
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dangling then that's gay i mean that's gay what is it no but how about this let's change it let's
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The trans woman is post-op, so they have a gaping wound that's a hole.
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As a straight man, I object to your appropriation of pussy.
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That's a hole excavated out of a male's pubic region, and the penis material has been inverted.
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The ball material is still there, but it's inverted into a wound, essentially, an open wound, and it's tucked in, and the cock material is there.
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So you don't want transgender people to have the surgery?
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I mean, look, well, I don't care, I guess.
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I don't think they should get the surgery.
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To me, gay is like attracted to the same sex.
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I think that they should get therapy and overcome their gender dysphoria without doing surgery.
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agree okay what what do you think they should do well i was just remembering that piers morgan
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said that if they didn't have the surgery then they changed their gender every day or something
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but i have heard that too so okay that's cool i was just like i feel like this the surgery just
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it it does what would have happened in the womb because like in the womb and depending on the
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gender like things go in and out yeah because technically our ovaries is like the balls
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no it's an open it's a gaping ovaries are balls a woman is a grown adult female that women your
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ovaries human adult literally yeah it even closes up on some trans men if they don't dilate it
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properly there's like a whole process to it sounds painful i mean i know i got surgery down there
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before it's it's not too bad what you huh yeah i had surgery labiaplasty no no um actually i
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suffer from a condition covalent idea where you have um tissue down there that is damaged you can
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have at first degree which is born like me or you can get it um from anything um i actually donated
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my surgery to researchers to help make it legal in more states because um male practitioners
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sees it as cosmetic because they don't believe women should have pleasure in the sexual area
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can um sticking objects up yeah can that make that happen what do you mean she's asking because
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you stuck a baseball bat up your hoo-ha if that caused you a fucking thought this was way before
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i was doing only friends i was suffering from evolving idea so it just was natural it just
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was sex was always painful for me until the last year and now it's actually like really great it
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feels amazing wow wait was that because your boyfriend you said was too big right no it was
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even before him i just i was born with this like sex was just but then once you got with him and
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started sleeping with him it was even worse yeah oh it hadn't been removed yet no okay yeah no no
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yeah this may mark one year over there uh yeah i mean we're pretty much done uh any final thoughts
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from anybody before i wrap the show wait i have a question i don't know i'm sorry i will not have
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a threesome with you no i don't want to have a threesome with you it's okay um no you gave me
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a five i don't want to have a threesome with you but i mean i don't know so you're saying if i gave
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you a higher rating yeah yeah because i'm gonna stick to my rating okay wait um so you're saying
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you would never um date an only fans person and like you have your like um preferences in your
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like relationship like what if she did do only fans but you she was willing to reconform for
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your meeting as in stop it, become a traditional wife, just take care of, have your seven babies
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and do everything that you want. Is that an option on the table? So I think my general answer would
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be, there are plenty of wonderful, attractive, beautiful women who don't do OnlyFans. So it's
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like my initial knee jerk answer to this is just like, do what's most optimum, most optimal, which
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is no however i would the nuance i would say here is that there could be some conceivable scenario
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where the woman did do only fans stopped it and however that's that is still suboptimal
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all things being equal compared to a woman who has never done only fans yeah i don't want to
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completely say you know what i don't know fucking sophie rain hits me up brian if she's actually
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that rich you know what i might do her a favor you know i might you know not that she would go
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for me i'm not saying like of course bro i'm like old and fat but you're not thank you thank you
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black queen over here w w i'm black you're objectively overweight but like actively doing
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only fans that would be like she would basically be like brian if you date me i'll fucking stop
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right now maybe yeah but she's gotta be like i asked you a question you have a boyfriend okay
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no is it because of your online presence also like does that play like i could understand that
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playing like a huge factor uh i mean like so even if i didn't do the podcast and i have
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uh you know my positions on only fans um it still would be regardless of my you know my
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publicly stated positions oh brian you'd be quite the hypocrite to date an only fans girl uh it is
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still removing that it's still suboptimal to date a woman who is or was a sex worker and is that
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because you're a public figure or in general anyway well i think me being a public figure
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and having this podcast and obviously having some sort of anti-sex worker only fans position
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obviously this would look optically bad for me uh but i guess i'd fuck sophie rain i guess
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you see that tiffany you fuck where's tiffany oh my god she's got to put it center if she
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another okay final oh who's your female celebrity looks equivalent looks what do you mean looks
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you asked that question i think like it looks equivalent like the same rating as you oh i don't
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know i'm not i'm not sure i'm not super big on like celebrities or whatever i'm kind of chubby
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right now fucking rachel maddow oh god no i mug her i mug rachel you totally do mug rachel i don't
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hell um brian what's up finally some of the questions i didn't answer out of respect for
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my husband my kids i don't want y'all to feel like i'm a liar but some stuff i just could not
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answer so just so you guys know if people out there that know me prior and i didn't raise my
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hands on certain stuff just know it's not because i'm a liar it's because i'm protecting the lady
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uh but yeah generally speaking i guess i don't know i wouldn't it's okay i'd rather date a girl
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who doesn't have only fans yeah and i mean i've been around a lot of only fans girls
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and some of them have been flirtatious and yeah i have let's say i've turned down
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some OF girls okay let's just say that um yeah well when i say some i mean there's been some
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OF girls okay who have shot their shot with me and because they do only fans even though i found
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them attractive i turned them down uh yeah but look you know maybe there's a really hot OF girl
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and i don't know she's gonna she's down to quit but most of them are not willing to quit
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of so stick to your original statement that you would not date a girl that would do only fans
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i think yeah that's the general thing but i'm not trying i i mean i'm i i like to be honest even if
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like me being honest is could conceivably be an answer that my audience would be displeased with
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i'd rather be honest yeah than just lie like i don't know like for example the the man should
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die for a woman now i think a man should protect his his girlfriend's wife whatever and uh should
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should do so as much as he possibly can but presented with a hypothetical scenario
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where you got to pick one person to die if i'm being honest i kind of like living
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so if i was like dating you know i could use i look i it's not like i'd run away in some like
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i'd try to kill the home i'd try to kill the home invader protect my kids protect my my girl
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but if it's like it's her or you yeah i think i like i think i like to live the man instead of
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the bear because i said i was like ball now look if she was you know the thing is this is like how
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am i gonna how am i supposed to die for a woman who in all probability within three months is
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gonna be getting cracked by somebody else i ain't giving my life for a woman who within fucking
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six weeks is gonna be back on tip is gonna be on tinder is gonna be on fucking christian mingle
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whatever the fuck it is farmers only and she's gonna be look there's this meme i don't know if
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you guys know in the chat know what i'm talking about uh it's like the face she was making when
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she was cheating on you or the face she was making with and it's like she's in doggy style
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and she's all into it and shit and it's like yeah why how am i gonna die for a woman who's
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gonna be getting smashed out in three months by some other dude i'm not gonna die you gave it
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three months huh no hey what i'm being generous i know yeah she's gonna be on tinder at the
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funeral swipe swipe swipe swipe it's like look i'm not the most traditional guy most of these
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women are not all that traditional yeah i'm traditional in some ways you know but i gotta
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die for you in what get the fuck out of here it's such a bad new york get the fuck out of here i'm
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not gonna fucking die for you but okay i don't expect her to die for me it'd be nice if she did
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i don't like you said that um an only fans girl wouldn't be willing to stop
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i'd have for someone yeah but where are you now well you're back on but you have it for your kids
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what but you have it for your children are you gonna let her talk to you like
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the fake christian she just she just invoked your kids i don't know that a man is gonna make
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much of a difference if your children can't make a difference. If my child can't make a difference
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on why I do OnlyFans. No, you're saying like you've stopped for a man, but you haven't stopped
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for your children. Right. So he paid all of my bills and he told me I can walk away from it. So
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I did. I walked away from it. So your only way to be a good mother and to provide for your children
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is doing OnlyFans. There's no other career path. It allows me to be home 24-7 as a single mother
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without having to pay for a babysitter I'm able to provide that I can homeschool my son
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so I do do that I don't know if you should homeschool if you don't know where half the
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cities are but well I'm just saying it allows me to be there 24 7 is it there are other jobs that
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you can be remote I know you can do remote sales and still be at home I could I could yeah but I
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have my own place I have okay but think about like the when your son gets older or your children get
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older I don't know how many kids you have like is it worth them is it worth the temporary like
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oh i can you know work from home 24 7 because you know there's many single mothers that do what
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you're doing and don't resort to getting naked for men on the internet right and good for them
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but i'm not you took the easy way i'm not too concerned the easy way yeah no and would you
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want no honey yes is not no honey no no no no it's so difficult to take half naked pic or take
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naked pictures of myself and post them online it's so difficult oh my gosh i know that as a
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full-time career yeah it is very difficult to give up would you want your kids to be doing that when
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they grow up would you want your kids to be doing that when they grew up i mean he can do whatever
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the hell he wants when he grows up but i doubt that he would i have a little boy a son but aren't
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you setting an example for him i'm setting a different example for him so he's not exposed
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to anything i do online but not yet not yet it's no and maybe one day he will have questions about
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how is everything happening and i'm gonna have to explain to him well mommy did what mommy had
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to do you didn't have to do that though i did no you didn't have to no you didn't it wasn't this
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way or no way like this was not your only option you're judging no no i know no no no listen to
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me i know that this was not your only choice your only choice was to get on only fan your only
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choice you want to know the story yes go ahead go ahead and tell you're not going to convince me
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so you just admitted that you had another option yeah and you brought up the fact that she didn't
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know like most of the cities yes yes it was it was it was kind of a joke yeah i know i know it
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was kind of a joke but i mean this is the kind of trad wife stuff that's like so annoying like
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you're getting your degree in like some like i'm gonna be i'm gonna be a professor but yeah okay
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you're your professor whatever and you think that you're better than someone i don't think that i'm
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She literally said, you can't homeschool because you don't know the cities.
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No, I said, I know a lot of people with psychology degrees that work at Starbucks.
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I said, you're going to homeschool when you, like, I asked, I proposed, I posed it as a
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I never, never, never said that you shouldn't do that.
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And no, I don't think that I'm better than anybody.
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You kind of do, like, getting your doctorates and, like, it's just like, oh, I know all the cities and she's a bad mom.
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This is what men cannot stand about girls like you.
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But I'm getting a doctorate in psychology and I don't work.
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I answered his question about, I'm pursuing my PhD.
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Okay, that's my, not, I have a doctorate and I'm better than you.
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You are painting a picture of me acting like I'm better than her.
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I guess you haven't met anyone who actually says that because she does not.
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But I just want to hear what you are going to respond with.
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No, you are going to respond, like, to the question, is this the only thing you know how to do?
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This is what you chose to do as opposed to anything else.
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Okay, so I started OnlyFans. When I signed my first lease all by myself, I had actually a full-time job during that time, and then I lost it two months later, and I wasn't going to go home.
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I finally got my own place, and I was already streaming online, so I said, you know what? I'm going to capitalize on this. I didn't care. I wasn't dating anyone, really, so I just did it.
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So they laid you off, so you could have applied for unemployment if they laid you off.
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sure but i capitalized on that so you cap so you but you're just admitting but you're admitting
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right now that you could have done this and you could have worked at you but you just said earlier
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like two minutes ago that this was the only choice you had and you had no other path but now you're
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admitting that this was not your only option you did you did you said that this was this was my
08:18:30.460
only choice myself yeah okay it's not my only choice but i saw an opportunity and i took it
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and it's working out great so you can hate on me on that if you want but it's working out i mean
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not on you on your choices provide for my son full-time no one pays my bills and so i get to
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be there at a cost the only fans people pay your bills yeah they do just at a cost might pay you
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so not no one at a cost might pay you so it's the same thing at a cost that i don't hold up
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in a value that so there's a lot of you don't have you don't you don't are you saying you don't
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have that like what are you saying like i don't hold you're holding the the porn in a value system
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that i'm not matching speaking of only fans you guys should watch the black mirror episode common
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people and the movie cam what oh i've seen the movie cam it's trying to scare girls and stuff
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like that it's not it's not about me it worked oh me so horny how long is tom in france um a week
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and a half he's with his family you gotta be careful with those parisian women though because
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yeah isn't draw me like a french girl see okay now we're like switch we're switching topics to
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me now exactly they're gonna yeah you're you're clearly upset at what i'm saying about only fans
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and standing my position and now trying to you know if he cheats on me and he makes the decision
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to do that then then we break up that's okay you know like if you find out yeah that's okay
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that's okay that's that's like you're kind of like attacking like what is that i just said i
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I can guarantee you my boyfriend would never, ever, ever sleep with you or you or any OnlyFans
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I can guarantee that because I would not be with him otherwise, and I've been with him
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No, I'm, yeah, I'm, you don't, yes, because I'm telling you, sorry, keep going, go ahead,
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so when did you have sex with him? Okay, so why are we, like, bringing this back up, we've already
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had this conversation, I've been, like, I have been the center, you've been talking about this
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for, like, like, at least a full hour, now, I finally brought up a point about something else,
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and we're turning it around back on me, and on my situation, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna
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let that happen, I'm not biting that, we're talking about, we were talking about you,
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you also asked me how long is my church service
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because you're assuming that he's bringing someone over
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thinking that people not being able to answer states countries is cute like oh she's so cute
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she doesn't know she doesn't know where milan is she doesn't know like i don't think a doctorate
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in psychology is cute at all i don't actually i don't have the money i don't have a doctorate
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in psychology it's all paid for it's all paid for i got it all paid for it's a waste of somebody
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else's money still a waste of money no it's not you just think you're so smart i know it's not
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I don't think I'm so smart. I never said that. You are saying that I think I'm so smart. You are saying that I think I'm so smart. You are saying that you think I'm so smart. That's what you're saying. I never said that. I never sat here and be like, I'm so smart. You know, I knew where these cities were. I knew where these cities were because it's basic knowledge. No, that's not true. You know everything and nothing.
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you're just like you're literally just sitting here smiling saying the same thing over and over
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again but not actually able to engage in a conversation with me i literally said keep
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living you said i had a degree you don't know you don't know i don't have a degree in psychology
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that's not even what i'm going for you don't even listen you literally said you're getting a
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doctorate and you i think you were like let's just say psychology no i did not say that english
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okay well whatever she said sorry it was a long day but yeah a lot of times a lot of women think
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If you're going to put words in someone's mouth,
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her motherhood hold on hold on hold on I'm not attacking her it was about the profession her
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mother the profession I never called her a bad mother I never called her a bad mother you literally
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said I never called her a bad mother you literally said oh you didn't know any of the cities in your
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how are you going to homeschool you said I did say that but that's not me calling her a bad mother
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hello that's a false equivalence hello okay what I'm saying is I'm saying it with your chest
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sweetheart i am like you're gonna say if you're gonna attack her i just feel like you hold on
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i'm not attacking her i'm not attacking her you think she's true i am attacking her
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she is a mother and she made choices that are i mean they're questionable to us are what you're
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a christian you're a christian stand up against this stand up against the industry as a christian
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woman stand up against the industry what i'm telling you what i am telling you is i have
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made choices that are not on display i have made choices in my life that are not on display and so
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when when you judge somebody because you haven't lived a lot you sweetie keep living you'd be
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surprised what thomas is doing you'd be surprised what you will do given the right situation that's
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all i'm saying no that's all i'm saying you you said nothing of substance okay okay okay wait we
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do not need to be like really yelling oh sorry sorry i'm trying to unblack i'm sorry i can
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guarantee the viewers are like omg this is hurting my ears sorry i'm i'm i'm i'm a loud speaker
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anyway but yeah but it doesn't need to be exacerbated yeah okay anyway soon i was
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attacking the profession because i think it is harmful okay it's not a voice it is not about
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how's it harmful how's it harmful i we already talked about this it's already had this whole i
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already laid out all my reasons and everything it's harmful okay that's my stance and i and you
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as a Christian woman should also be against this industry, but you're, you're not, you're sitting
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here like defending it almost. Like she had to do what she had to do. You hate the sin, love the
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person. And so when you're looking at her and questioning her, she can't, that, that little
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baby boy cannot change that his mother did whatever and is doing whatever. And so for you to
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add salt to the wound and like in add insult to injury, I just feel like that's just not right,
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especially because you are as young as you are and you don't know where you're going to be 10
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years from now you literally don't know i think you're okay i can assure you i'll never be on
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only fans with adding salt i can assure you keep living sweetie because i'll never be on only fans
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only fans is trust me is not the worst place that somebody can be yeah i agree with that
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so so just because yours might not be on display just because yours might not be on display please
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See, you're not letting me talk. There's a movie called
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some people okay you keep going okay like this like i don't know what this persona is like keep
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living you don't know what thomas is doing keep like what like what are you you're not actually
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saying anything you're not actually engaging with me you're just like the only thing that you keep
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repeating over and over again is that i'm not living i don't know what i'm doing keep like
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keep living you'll see one day like just because you are older than me you think that somehow i
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haven't lived i don't know like basic things like some i'm gonna run into something and i'm gonna
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realize oh my gosh i should have been doing only fans you were right you know what i'm saying like
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no like what is that logic a lot of times living people who have not lived a lot of life and you
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can say whatever you want you see the world differently and what I am asking you I'm inviting
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you to say okay I don't agree with I but not start talking about things about her as far as her son
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and stuff like that that's an important aspect of it that's an important aspect in this in this
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conversation fine but what i never insulted her as a mother what i'm telling you is is that you
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have not become a mother no you have not been married and that is not going to change me not
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having making only fans okay but and you surprise yourself what does that mean what you say you will
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never do something about this no no no no i want to switch for free stop stop i want to surprise
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yourself i want to address this you don't need to be a weatherman to know it's raining okay let me
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address this point you just said you just said that i haven't lived i haven't become a mother
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blah blah what does that mean what that i'm going to one day become a mother maybe not have a husband
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be single and decide to do only fans no no you might be busting it down for free sweetie no
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like i'm just telling you when i do not know what you're gonna do but no no not everyone has
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that those morals okay not everyone has those morals yeah yes it's better that you entertain
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men on twitch for free i don't i don't i play a game or has to unplug your computer i play a game
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and i play a game with my friends i don't get half naked i don't get naked i don't get naked
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i don't get naked but you still entertain you gave attention to other men that you should be
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giving to your partner no i was playing a game with my friends and streaming online streaming
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you said you're twitching yes exactly there is nothing wrong with you are you are trying to make
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another false equivalence about me streaming on twitch to doing only fans are you kidding me
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i'm saying what's the difference if they angered their partner to the point where he has to unplug
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your computer twitch too yeah good so the major art audience that watches twitch streams are men
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okay and even though you're not in dressing you are giving that that attention while reading i
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I streamed once in the last two years, by the way.
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I want to know why Aunt Thomas unplugged that computer for that one time then.
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Okay, then I'm not trying to attack your streaming,
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but it is known in the streaming community that we're streaming to men.
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We're giving them attention by reading their chats, by engaging with them,
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So I actually put in my Twitch bio that one of my rules,
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but the second rule is that you will be banned.
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if you try to sexualize me in any capacity no no no in the chat in the chat in the chat so
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no i'm not naive i'm laying down my boundaries i don't want them talking in the chat about me
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sexually so that's not naive so do i it is so do i but then you have an only fan so i know i know
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you don't so you can talk about me sexually and dm me on only fans but you have to pay to do that
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but you can't do it in the chat okay got it absolutely you can talk about me sexually in
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chat anytime if you think that you resulted yourself to a commodity in a transaction got it
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which there is no sexual harassment there's no talk about yeah that's good there's nothing like
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that but i can also attest that my audience is male your audience is going to be male whether
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you're dressing for mccuse i wear t-shirts i wear pjs on stream i'm not dressing any type of way for
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males that looking like that but they still will okay and they won't do it in my chat that's what
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I'm saying. Okay. They don't do it in my chat either, but that doesn't matter. What does that
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mean? Yours is transactional, right? You're choosing to sexualize yourself. I don't sexualize
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myself. She was talking. Yes, go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. And the other thing I wanted to discuss
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was when you argue against you, it's not factually based. You're making assumptions about how she's
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lived her life saying she hasn't lived her life. No, you were when, you know, you don't even know
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what she's gone through and what she's been through, even at a young age. Number two,
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her relationship with her boyfriend, you don't know what her relationship is like. And you're
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making assumptions based on that as well. And you're projecting expectations and assumptions
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on her argument. But her argument is factually based because we know for a fact that you sell
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sexual content. We know for a fact that you said that you had alternate means to be able to earn
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an income and you didn't do so so that's the whole point of this was like you guys are driving it
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towards like la la land in an argument with no facts behind it but hers does have facts yeah
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burn by the way um the 50 percent divorce rate in america proves what does that mean i mean i mean
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like you you acted like you somehow like got me oh you facts i don't know but i know women and i
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I know men and I know the dynamics between male and female relationships.
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All right, well, I think we should wrap the show here.
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You were mentioning that in some ways you're a traditional man.
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So from a provider perspective, I would have a dynamic.
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Well, I'd have a dynamic where the person I'm with long term would not have to work.
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um need a little water hold on then do your laundry
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in terms of a division of like labor in terms of expectations in the household there would be a
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sort of gendered division there that would be more traditional she would cook she would clean
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um primarily take care of the children you know i'll say hi to the kids every once in a while
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i like doing that too um you like what i like copying people's laps
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okay uh what else i mean from from like a just a interpersonal dynamic i do prefer
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the woman being more submissive me taking on more of a leadership me making decisions
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so in that way i'm traditional but i'm i don't claim to be like ultra giga traditional in the
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sense like i have premarital sex don't believe in waiting don't believe in marriage so in that way
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i'm lacking in uh being traditional then what do you want your woman like how about the woman
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equivalent of you and their like personality like that would you what do you mean i mean so i would
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i want a woman who doesn't want to get married yes no who oh what well i suppose she could want
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it but she'd have to uh acquiesce to my perspective on this i mean a woman who lives like you and has
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lived like you uh a woman who's lived like me well i mean i think this is this transcends the
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discussion of am i traditional is she traditional whatever uh no but i'm a man i've lived a different
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life my conquest has been in the realm of like work and business um she doesn't have to there's
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not perfect symmetry that needs to exist or that has the same views on this sure uh depends what
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you mean by same views i mean whatever you just said about yourself like if she said the same
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I mean, like, about what depends what everything look, I want a woman who's submissive, who will follow my lead, who will trust my judgment in essentially all matters related to the household, raising our kids, leading the actual relationship itself.
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Well, yeah, but also I don't want to get married.
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Well, you know, the funny thing about that is, as I currently am, I get almost all of my meals door dashed.
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Am I going to spend three hours a day cooking and cleaning when I can make, like, three hours of my time?
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Like, I work one hour, and I basically have paid for a month worth of door dashing, basically.
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Um, so if she can't cook, it's like, well, eh, you know, it's not a deal breaker.
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It's nice if she can't, it's always nice if she can cook, but it's not a deal breaker.
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What if, and I'm just curious, cause like, I don't, I don't really know like the dynamic
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So like, if you're the provider, what if she like wants to buy like an address or like,
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Like, would you give her like a card that she could use to buy like stuff that she wants?
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Oh, it depends on the timeline of, you know, early on.
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So probably what I would do is I would want some degree of financial oversight, but I'd
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Here's a, here's a, you can do whatever you want with it.
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Here's a, I don't know, 2000 bucks for the month, whatever you want, maybe less, maybe
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And now, if she came to me and she's like, Brian, I want a $10,000 purse, I'd tell her to get fucked.
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I'd tell her to get, I'd be like, no, you're not, we're not going to do, you can get a $50 purse on Amazon.
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A lot of rich people are very, very stingy with their money.
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But if she wants something new, she needs something, sure.
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Would you prefer a woman who looks good and cooks bad or cooks good and looks bad?
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but you got to remember okay yeah i know like i i will lead in the bedroom i know what i'm doing
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i can take a girl who's bad at sex and have good bad it's how do you be a woman has to go out of
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her way to be bad at sex okay just put yourself in dog style that's it so pretty much it then you
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would marry a virgin sure well hold on not marry but be with yes because oh okay not marry so that
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doesn't apply so i would not marry there maybe i there are some rare circumstances
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where i'd marry if she made more money than me we can get married
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if she's like super giga mog mogging me i guess maybe maybe prenup like if this is a woman who's
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like way out of my league may maybe there's like trade-offs you do right but generally speaking like
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i'm not gonna get married prenup no prenup also i don't understand this need from even like if
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you're religious to get legally married nothing in the bible says that the government has anything
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to do with your marriage you can get married in a church that is you're married but it's the
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highest form like it's more than the highest marriages it's not the highest form husband
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husband and wife sounds better than getting married getting married in a church not the
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government okay you're now in a terrible okay legal contract that's retarded you wouldn't
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want to get married through the courts no through the church unless she's makes more money than me
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do you have any further you have another question or no did you have another question for me
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oh it just blows so okay you know i'm a chef so when people tell me about who they are as opposed
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as it relates to food i get insight so i'm like a silent psychologist right like
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when you say you would rather have a beautiful woman over tasty food
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look she's the one sticking shit in her pussy
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really good food well look yes of course like a nice if she's a good cook that's a plus but i
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think you ask most men terrible chef beautiful average looking but amazing cook whatever they
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pick the beautiful woman they pick the beautiful woman well and also cooking is something that you
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can learn i mean look some people have a talent for it i understand that but look you can fucking
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door dash food and she's hot so it's just i think most men pick the the attractive woman who can't
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cook what's your body count again i'm a virgin zero no you're not maybe if we get married it'll
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finally be one i don't know you said like seven you lost your virginity at 17 earlier in the
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podcast so what is your actual and that you slept with someone the first day you met them well it
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was only one so you slept with them the first day you met them when you were 17 yeah it was that one
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time. So you're not a person. I was scarred. Why won't you say your body count? Maybe his body
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count is 17. I have trauma. Is it high? I have trauma, you know. You want all of us to answer?
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Look, I'll be honest. I was 17 and her labia was too small. And then I just, after that, I was
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scarred. So you won't answer the question. Because I only date women with large labia. I just,
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I had that one bad moment with the small labia and I just couldn't, I couldn't bring myself to
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You did say it was nine. No, it's not nine. You did say it was nine.
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Nine and three quarters. That's the real number.
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that's giving small labia energy to be honest it's giving small labia
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any other questions for me you have the leading expert in dating here at the table you guys
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should probably what do you do when you're not filming the podcast what do you do you
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don't have a job besides this so what do you do every day um i what do i do when i'm not
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doing the podcast besides door dashing um well sometimes i i um cry while masturbating sometimes
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i masturbate while crying those are two different things those are two different things by the way
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uh but you know i uh this podcast occupies a lot of my time even after it ends yeah no there's a
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lot of because he's looking for clips here's a question for you brian what else do you want to
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Well, okay, so I'm sure you have a lot of listeners and viewers who are post-family.
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They've been through the marriage, and they are now single.
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Is that a whole different dynamic when it's, you know, you've been there and done that?
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is is the approach towards women different if it's not for family like if you've been there
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and done that with family you've been married you're not gonna get married again are you still
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gonna have the same uh so maybe a little bit but i think that even people who are asexual people
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who don't want to have children people already have children don't plan to have more children
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some of these people might on average be more inclined to more casual relationships
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But also these people can also find, may prefer, or do in fact prefer, having long-term serious relationships and companionship.
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But I don't know. I mean, I'm not there yet, really.
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Hoodie or no hoodie? You asked us if we had Audi or any. I'm asking you if you have hoodie or no hoodie.
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circumcised yeah i said hoodie or no hoodie you get it i'm circumcised although but you were born
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in france yeah i'm why well i am circumcised but i'm against i'm against circumcision even
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though i'm circumcised why oh really the fuck why won't this it's really did you fucking super glue
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this tiffany wait can you get me one not from the refrigerator can you get me my son and none
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of the men in my family are circumcised sorry what was the thing somebody had something
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you're french but you weren't circum you weren't circumcised that's or you were circumcised in
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france when well yeah when so wait actually no because sometimes people do it later so you did
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it when you were born at the hospital correct was it a parental decision like did your parents
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decide to no he decided yeah i i came out with the same level of eloquence well i don't know how
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it works like if the doctors do it or like the parents say whether or not they want it i don't
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know i i had the parents right okay why did your parents i started whipping the doctor with my
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umbilical cord and i was like chop my penis up why did your parents like circumcise you when in
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in france they don't it's not it's pretty atypical to be circumcised in europe yeah in europe yeah
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oh not necessarily yeah it is look it up look up the statistics of men circumcised well you have
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understand so okay so my mom's american though oh okay right my mom's american dad dad's french
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right okay so i haven't really inquired with my parents as to the underlying reasons i guess it's
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just my mom's american it's like okay but you don't think that men should be circumcised why
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correct uh it is yeah well i agree but i want to know what he yeah it's mutilation uh children
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obviously perhaps if they're 18 and they want to undergo the procedure they can but um children
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are not able to uh you know there's no informed consent or whatever so um also the procedure is
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not really necessary all this bullshit about yes true well all the bullshit about oh it's more
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hygienic and uh blah blah that doesn't even if there's like a slight overall general increase in
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And basic hygiene, which maybe it takes a bit of extra work, and you might argue, well, people who are uncircumcised are not inclined to do the extra work, still does not warrant mutilating the genitals of a newborn baby.
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It's my understanding that the popularity of circumcision came through out of World War, one of the World Wars.
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Well, I mean, just biblically, like, you know, they say.
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Nothing in the New Testament requires Christians to perform circumcision.
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A lot of Christians, they only focus on the New Testament.
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Didn't Jesus essentially free people from the obligations of the Old Testament?
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The Old Testament is the creation of the Lord.
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Didn't Jesus free Christians of the obligations of the Old Testament?
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yes yes they're saying yes jesus did free everyone from old customs
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circumcision is not required for christians yeah and and it's not i'm not saying that you can't be
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saved and uncircumcised but what i'm saying is is that the old testament i believe has a lot of
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um practices that are good for life and circumcision i believe is one of them why is it
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good for life i just believe that it's like i first of all i believe it's hygienic and i feel
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like um i know some people say oh well not not really but i have had intercourse with people
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who are uncircumcised and i just personally i want to take the guesswork out for my sons
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do you wait wait but so when the penis is erect it pretty much looks like an uncircumcised
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how do you know it doesn't smell the same though sometimes doesn't smell the
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no so when the penis is erect hold on how do you know what do you mean how do what i'm joking so
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okay it's like okay when the penis is erect the foreskin retracts now look there is some
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additional skin maybe you can still tell the difference maybe you can still kind of tell the
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difference. But overall, it's pretty close. They're pretty close. There's a little extra skin, but
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pretty close. Wait, I have a question for you. So do you, do you go to the black woman?
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The unblack woman. Do you go to church on Saturday? I can go to church any day that I want,
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but no, I don't. You typically observe Sunday? Uh-huh. So you don't observe the Sabbath then,
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which would be a i believe that we should observe the sabbath i do oh i think it's good to that's
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what i said i believe the whole bible and i believe the especially the the old testament is
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is keys for life things that are good to do i gotta wrap the show guys i gotta wrap the show
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uh are tiffany is anyone in the bathroom let's have the people return to the table let's have
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the people return to the table we got one gone we got tina taking a shit okay uh i'll start
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doing the winding down then here uh let's see oh what the fuck uh i feel like i'm forgetting
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something do we do makeup nah it's too late um i want to see i want to say gg well played
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to the panel last call hit the like button on your way out also please leave a nice comment
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once the live ends helps the algorithm i read them positivity is nice oh my wait tiffany the
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mic is there's like a mic right next to you and if you're like squeaking the bag just put the bag
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away and do it later stop messing with the bag so uh thank you to all of you for joining me tonight
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appreciate it it was a fun panel uh thank you for tuning in tonight to the viewers appreciate you
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guys you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank
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you to everyone who super chats donates supports the show could not do it without you we're going
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instagram if you can make it to santa barbara oh sevens in the chat oh sevens in the chat i feel
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like i'm forgetting something are we forgetting anything tina quick tina quick t-dog what's her
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chinese name it's lang zoo or bang down all right what are you doing tina what is what is she doing
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she has to boon walk right that's right all right uh let's see okay uh all right guys oh sevens in
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the chat good night good night and we will see you next time good night guys oh sevens in the chat
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okay really quick before anyone gets up we're all wrapped did anybody lie about their body count
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no no and it's not nine oh it's more no it's not it's 12 oh wait tina what the fuck you didn't end
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