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00:03:01.620 introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead.

00:03:07.820 Hi, my name is Savannah Owens. I'm 18 and I currently just watch a dog.

00:03:13.760 Where are you from? Huntington Beach. You just watch a dog? Yeah, I just watch a dog. Are you

00:03:18.860 in college or? No, not yet. Wait, you're in high school? No, I'm not in high school. I just haven't

00:03:24.340 started college yet. Oh, so you're taking like a gap year? Yeah, pretty much. You graduated from high

00:03:28.820 school. Okay, got it. So you're watching a dog, just one dog? Yeah, just one dog. Okay, one dog.

00:03:36.460 Your dog? Not my dog. Someone else's dog? Somebody else's dog. Like for rich people or something?

00:03:41.860 Not really. Just for like a friend. Oh, a friend. Do you get paid? Yeah, I do. Okay, all right.

00:03:47.960 What about you? My name is Gabby. I'm 29. I'm currently a cash associate at a marijuana dispensary

00:03:55.000 and I also work as a receptionist at a med spa. Where are you from? I'm from here, Santa Barbara.

00:04:02.200 Santa Barbara, okay. Born here? Yeah. Okay, cool. What about you? Hi, my name is Maddie Fuller. I'm

00:04:08.320 from San Diego, California and I am a student as well as a behavioral individualist. Age? 18 years old.

00:04:14.840 All right. And you are at the CC or the UC? CC. And you said you're studying what? So I'm

00:04:23.420 a dual major. I'm in political science and then radiology. Okay, political science. Do you want

00:04:29.240 to become a lawyer? I do. What kind of lawyer? Tort law. So personal injury. Okay, got it. And

00:04:36.180 are you, you said you're a behavioral interventionist? Is that what you said?

00:04:41.540 Interventionalist, yes. What's that? So I work with kids that are on the spectrum and have

00:04:45.880 special needs. Okay. And it's wonderful. Yeah. Okay, Maddie's actually like looking for somebody

00:04:51.020 if like you want to help her out. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm fully trained. Yeah. And so it's

00:04:57.620 with kids though? Yes. Okay, got it. And so you work with like a local school for that or? No,

00:05:02.820 so basically parents will reach out and then we have to get a schedule and I can choose to

00:05:08.740 accept a client or not and I either go to their home or they come to the clinic and I spend time

00:05:13.480 with them, teach them, tutor them, and help them understand their own needs. All right,

00:05:19.400 very cool. What about you? Hey, my name is Kendra. I am 25. I'm from Pennsylvania and I'm currently

00:05:27.340 a TikTok live sales host and I'm a grad student for marine science. All right, you're currently a

00:05:34.160 grad student. Yeah. So you're getting your master's? Yeah. All right, what about you? Hi, my name is

00:05:40.060 Emma. I am 22 years old. I live here and then I'm also a student and I work at a pet shop. You're

00:05:48.320 from Santa Barbara? Not from, but I live here. You live here. Where are you from originally?

00:05:51.800 Uh, everywhere. Uh, your dad was in the military or? No, um, I was born in San Diego-ish. Okay. I lived

00:06:02.340 all around the West Coast. Uh, what's the story there? Where? Well, with the constant moving. Um,

00:06:13.220 my mom was kind of psychotic, so. Hmm, okay. Uh, was your dad in the picture? No. Mom's psychotic?

00:06:21.420 And so. Just a little bit. And so you moved a lot? Yeah. Because she got stir crazy and she

00:06:28.280 couldn't stay in one space or? Yeah, she just got done with each place she moved to. She decided

00:06:35.060 she wanted a new start. And she's actually psychotic? Um. Like diagnosed? No. Or something? Or?

00:06:43.080 Just a little crazy. Are you crazy? Maybe a little bit. Okay. Uh, all right. And, uh, what

00:06:51.920 are you studying? I'm studying biology, but I just switched to communications. All right.

00:06:59.200 And you're at the CC? Yeah. You're, uh, fourth, fourth year, fifth year? What are you? Um, I

00:07:06.240 don't know. You're, uh, what do you mean? I've been there for too long. How long, how long

00:07:09.440 you've been? Is it, are you going into your fourth year, fifth year? At the two year? Third

00:07:14.180 year. Third year? Yeah. Okay. All right. What about you? Um, I'm Alex. I'm 26 and I'm from,

00:07:23.160 well, I live here in Santa Barbara. I'm an artist and a creative consultant. All right. Welcome.

00:07:29.380 Um, uh, go ahead. Um, I'm Turkish, but my online name is Turkish Delight. I am 24 years

00:07:38.560 old, originally born and raised Australia, but I've been living in LA for the past four

00:07:43.160 months. Wait, your government name is Turkish? No, my government name is non-disclosed. Oh,

00:07:50.120 okay. Cause you said I'm Turkish, but I go online. Oh, I am Turkish, but, um, people call me

00:07:55.680 Turkish and my like Twitch user is Turkish Delight. Okay. All right. Got it. All right.

00:08:01.620 Q, what about you? Uh, the Q pill, 31 behavioral scientist, certified relationship coach, YouTuber,

00:08:08.280 book author. All right. And, uh, Andrew. Yeah. My name is Andrew Wilson. I'm the host of the

00:08:15.280 crucible. I'm a political analyst, political satirist, and, uh, I occasionally like to engage

00:08:19.800 in debates. All right. Welcome Andrew. Welcome everybody. So we're going to go around

00:08:25.600 the table once more. What is your current relationship status? So are you single,

00:08:30.040 talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule,

00:08:36.040 sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be. If you're single, how long have you been single? And what's

00:08:40.580 the longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead. Um, I'm single right now. Okay. I've been

00:08:47.140 single for about like a year and a half. All right. Yeah. Longest relationship? 10 months.

00:08:54.920 Is that the one that ended a year and a half ago? Yes. Who broke up with who? I did.

00:09:00.780 Mm-hmm. Or why? Um, he was in jail. Oh my God. What? He was in jail. Uh, for, for what? Uh,

00:09:15.740 grand theft auto and assault. Hmm. Okay. Um, did you do a, like, uh, how soon into the relationship

00:09:25.480 did he end up in jail? Three months, like about three months. So for, I stayed with him for a while.

00:09:31.580 Was he in jail the entire time? Yeah, pretty much. Did he get, well, so he got out? Uh, yeah,

00:09:37.380 he got out, but I haven't seen him. But like while you were dating him, did he get out? No. Okay. So

00:09:43.860 you did, you met him. He was out for three months at the beginning of the relationship, three months in

00:09:48.560 lands in jail. Yep. And then you stay with him for another about 14 months or so. Uh,

00:09:55.460 yeah. And I just, while he's in jail. Mm-hmm. I ended it with him though. How often would you go see

00:10:01.220 him? I never saw him. And you didn't go visit him? No. You'd call though? Yeah, he would call me. You do

00:10:06.640 calls? Mm-hmm. Uh, how old was he? 18. Oh, okay. All right. Um, interesting. Um, were you involved in

00:10:18.800 any of the criminal activity? No, I wasn't. Okay. What about you? Um, I'm in a relationship,

00:10:24.700 my longest relationship was three years. Is that your current relationship? No, um,

00:10:32.000 I actually met this guy through Tinder who I'm currently dating. How long have you guys been

00:10:37.120 together? Um, we've been together for about two months and we actually met each other originally

00:10:42.400 in high school. Mm-hmm. The three-year relationship, who ended it? Um, so it was both of us. We were

00:10:50.200 both abusing substances and, um, it was a really toxic relationship. We ended up reconnecting

00:10:58.560 and I got pregnant and I had a son. Mm, you have a kid? Yeah, he's two. You have a son with a three-year

00:11:08.140 relationship guy? Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. And how's your son? He's two. Got it. Okay. And, uh,

00:11:17.200 so it was a mutual split because of the substance abuse? Yeah, it got so toxic we couldn't be around

00:11:24.300 each other. Okay. All right. So totally mutual. Yeah, it was, I would say that I've never been in

00:11:35.000 love. Um, the current relationship I'm in is the healthiest, but I think the rest was just

00:11:40.880 trauma, trauma bonds. Okay. All right. What about you? Single. I've been single for about five

00:11:47.500 months now and the longest relationship I was in was about three years. Who broke up with who?

00:11:52.840 I broke up with him. All right. And is that the one that ended five months ago? No. The three-year

00:11:57.460 relationship? No. Okay. Uh, the one that ended five months ago, how long was that relationship?

00:12:02.920 About three months. Yeah. Three months. Okay. Who ended that one? He did. He did. Okay. Why?

00:12:13.420 Infidelity. Um, I messed up. Oh, you. I messed up. Yeah. Oh, you messed up. No, I messed up big time.

00:12:19.760 Yeah. I messed up. Normally don't hear that kind of honesty. Um, how many people did you cheat on him

00:12:26.120 with? One. Just one? Yeah. I don't, you can, I would consider it cheating. Yeah. I messed up

00:12:31.600 entirely. It was a kiss and that was that. Just a kiss? Just a kiss. Okay. And he like saw you do it?

00:12:38.960 No. No. He heard about it. Oh, you heard about it. Yeah. Was this at a party or? No, it was between

00:12:44.560 the two of us and then a mutual friend, um, of me and the person that I technically cheated on him with,

00:12:51.900 um, told him. Okay. Yeah. That's what I'd say. Were you dissatisfied in the relationship or?

00:13:01.600 Yes and no. He's great. He's, he's, he's incredible. Um, I felt like there was certain

00:13:08.820 things in him that were lacking that I had seen in the person that I cheated on him with,

00:13:14.540 um, intellectually. Like he, the guy I cheated with, he stimulated, we were friends for a long

00:13:19.340 time. Um, he stimulated my mind and the guy that I was seeing, everything was so great except

00:13:27.380 his responses to me were like, he just, there just wasn't much going on upstairs. So I couldn't

00:13:34.380 like sit down and have like a great conversation for hours with him. And I found that in somebody

00:13:38.840 else and kind of the give and take. Hmm. Yeah. You got thoughts on that Q? Um, it makes a lot of

00:13:47.420 sense. I think a lot of guys underestimate the importance of intelligence when it comes to a

00:13:51.760 relationship. A lot of selection is for intelligence. Like IQ disparities will cause infidelity. So it

00:13:58.320 makes sense if a girl is dating somebody who's intellectually inferior or he's just not intelligent

00:14:03.480 as she is, then that guy runs the risk of being cheated on. Everything else can be great, but if you

00:14:07.960 can't stimulate her mind, yeah, definitely going to get cheated on. And that's something I preach to

00:14:12.820 most of my followers, my clientele, especially the men who can't understand why women will do things

00:14:18.000 like that, that intellectual and emotional stimulation is one and the same. Hmm. Was the

00:14:23.680 boyfriend like an athlete or something? Yes. Typical. Uh, great guy, but you said he wasn't

00:14:32.720 totally there upstairs or? And I don't mean that in a disrespectful way at all. He was so kind,

00:14:38.360 so great. But, but what? But we couldn't have really good conversations. Like his opinion,

00:14:44.320 like he didn't have opinions. So I would bring up a hot topic or literally anything. And he had two

00:14:49.820 responses and it was always, yeah, no, like I get what you're saying, but like, I just don't have

00:14:54.780 the words to, to like tell you that. Or it was no, yeah, no, I don't see that, but I don't really have

00:15:00.580 the words to put it together what you're saying. So three months of that, not the best.

00:15:05.320 What sport did he play? Football. I was about to guess. Um, and, uh, uh, well you, you're a political

00:15:14.120 science major. You want to become an attorney. Um, would you try to talk politics with him

00:15:19.580 kind of, or? Politics, opinions on absolutely anything. Like I could say, isn't the sky pretty

00:15:25.860 today? And I, I have a totally unrelated to dating question. Sure. I'll ask once we get

00:15:33.120 through the relationship status, but, uh, that's like deep and stuff. Um, what about you?

00:15:41.120 I've been single for five years now. Okay. And my longest relationship was three years.

00:15:48.260 Was that the one that ended five years ago? No. Uh, how long was the one that ended five years ago?

00:15:55.700 Eight years ago. Wait, what? Eight years ago. The three year one ended eight years ago,

00:16:01.420 but what, how long was the one that ended five years ago? Oh, one year. One year. Okay. Uh,

00:16:07.900 who ended the one year relationship? He did. Who ended the three year relationship?

00:16:13.840 He did because I didn't answer the phone quick enough. So then I, I took that on a consistent

00:16:22.360 basis or just one time you didn't answer the phone? It was crazy. It was one time? Oh no,

00:16:27.740 he would get mad if I didn't answer the phone quick enough. Oh, he might've always been in an

00:16:31.160 emergency. But wait, you would answer the phone, but it would ring like three times. Like you'd

00:16:35.700 answer the phone, right? I was in church and I couldn't answer the phone. Oh, okay. So then I got

00:16:39.920 out. Okay. I thought just like, you still answered the phone. Just that shit rang three times.

00:16:45.660 Yeah. Pretty much. But he was like, nah, you get one ring, you get one ring. He was mad. He was like,

00:16:54.080 he literally broke up with me over it. So I was like, okay. Okay. All right. Uh, and single for

00:17:00.780 five years. So there's, you've not dated anybody. Not really. Like nobody has like, like made it

00:17:09.960 official. What's the longest period of time you've dated somebody in this past five years though?

00:17:14.300 I haven't dated anybody. You haven't had like a three month long, like a situationship,

00:17:20.200 situationship or? Of course. When's the last situationship you've had? Like a month ago.

00:17:25.620 Are you in a situationship? No. And how long were you seeing the most recent situationship?

00:17:31.180 Six months. Six months situationship. Okay. Was it exclusive? On my end. I thought on his.

00:17:38.900 Oh, so he cheated on you sort of. I don't know if he did. He just ghosted me. Oh,

00:17:43.120 he ghosted you. After six months? Mm-hmm. Good times. Uh, all right. Wonderful. Uh,

00:17:50.780 I'll send you to Ross. Um, what about you? I'm single. I've been single for four years.

00:17:58.460 Four years. Yeah. Four years. The longest relationship I was in was like two years.

00:18:04.260 So in high school? No. Wait, you said you've been single for four years. You're 22. But you

00:18:11.700 were in a two-year relationship? So when you've been like in high school or? I was 19. Okay.

00:18:20.920 So you dated, you were in a two-year relationship from 19 to 21? No, from like 17. Okay. 17 to 19.

00:18:29.920 Okay. Uh, the two-year relationship, who ended it? Him. Okay. And you've been single for four

00:18:36.080 years. What, so what does that mean though? I mean, is there a guy in the picture right

00:18:39.260 now in any capacity? Um, I've occasionally dated people and talked to people, but, uh,

00:18:46.340 none of them have turned into full-blown relationships. Are you currently in a situationship?

00:18:52.060 I was a couple weeks ago. Is there a guy in the picture right now? No, right now. A couple

00:18:58.020 weeks ago? What do you, uh, so that's ended the, has it ended? Yeah, yeah. The situationship?

00:19:06.280 I'd say so. How long are you seeing the situationship? A month. A month? It's very brief. How did

00:19:12.360 you guys meet? Um, Tinder. Okay. Um, and in the four years you've been single, what's the longest

00:19:20.180 friends with benefits or situationship that you've had? That one, the last one, like a

00:19:27.100 month. Just one month? Yeah. That's the longest in, in four years? Yeah. The longest period

00:19:32.940 of time you've seen a guy in the past four years was just one month? Mm-hmm. Okay. Have

00:19:36.900 you had other shorter term things? Yeah. Two weeks, three weeks, one night? Yeah, a couple.

00:19:43.980 A couple one night? No, like a week or two. Okay. What ends up happening? Do you, do you

00:19:52.540 want more than, than that or you? It just, I didn't see it going anywhere. It wasn't really

00:19:59.560 meant to go anywhere. So it's just like, um, how do you meet them typically from Tinder

00:20:04.440 or? Uh, no, sometimes it's just like catching up with people or friends or whatnot.

00:20:10.560 So like, uh, you meet them at a kickback or? Yeah, sometimes. Okay. What about you? Um,

00:20:20.660 so my longest relationship was five years and I am currently, um, with my companion of, uh,

00:20:28.740 over one year. All right. Same guy? Yep. Same guy. The five-year relationship, who ended

00:20:36.120 it? Uh, it was a little bit mutual, but I mean, the relationship was kind of messed

00:20:42.220 up. He cheated on me three times during it and we moved to Bay Area and it was too expensive

00:20:47.560 and blah, blah, blah. So. Okay. Um, I'm single. I've been single for almost three years. Last

00:20:58.560 relationship, longest relationship, three years. Sorry, you said you've been single for three

00:21:02.960 years, you said? Mm-hmm. And longest relationship, three years? Mm-hmm. Who ended it? Um, mutual.

00:21:09.480 Mutual. Mm-hmm. So both, both at the same time? No, so I initiated it and then he was like,

00:21:17.400 no, no, no, no, no, no. And then I was like, we'll take time apart and see how we go. And

00:21:22.100 then later on he was like, oh yeah, I agree. We both are separate. So you broke up with him?

00:21:27.300 Um, but then later on I wanted him back and then he, I, that time apart I realized, no,

00:21:33.500 I want you. I need you. I don't need him. I need myself, but yeah, yeah, we're in a better

00:21:40.360 place now. Huh. Okay. Um, so you ended things, but then you missed him? Mm-hmm. And then he

00:21:51.200 was like, no. And I was like, okay. Wait, can you say no? No. No, hold on. N, uh, no. No.

00:22:01.680 Here, let's try one more. No. No. Yeah, there's no R's in no. There's no R's. I'm not even,

00:22:08.960 I feel like we sound the same. No. Hold on. We sound the same. No. No. Watch, check this

00:22:15.320 out. N, O, no. N, O, no. No. No. No. No. No. That doesn't even sound like me. That was

00:22:28.320 like me. No. No. You say no. No. No. No. No. No. Wait, here, we got this. We got this

00:22:37.800 Turkish. Wait. No. No. It literally, like, I'm hearing it, and it sounds the same. It's

00:22:47.380 not coming out like that. No. Can you just say, can you just say, O? O. O. O. What?

00:22:55.720 Last time, last time. No. No. Okay, we'll work on it. We're gonna work on it. We'll work

00:23:03.400 on it. We have the whole pod. Q, what about you? I got a lady. All right. How long you

00:23:09.780 guys been together? Two months. Rock and roll? Rock and roll. Andrew, what about you?

00:23:17.380 Yeah, I'm happily married. That's it, really. All right. Sweet. So, let's see. Where do we

00:23:26.720 begin? We're gonna get into some of the pre-show notes here. No, Ryan. No. No. No.

00:23:33.400 No. We're gonna do every hour. We'll do a test and see if she gets it. Let's start

00:23:40.340 with Emma. Okay, so, Emma, you said in your pre-show notes, you went on perhaps a crazy

00:23:46.160 date where the guy seemed like he was crazy and on drugs, had no furniture in his house,

00:23:51.780 and talked very monotone. I thought he was gonna kill me or something. It was okay because

00:23:57.680 I thought he was gorgeous. Oh, my God. We proceeded to sleep together, and then after he asked for

00:24:03.180 feedback on the sex, anyway, I really liked him, he turned out to be cool, and we dated

00:24:09.300 for a little while. Was this the most recent situationship? No. It was in 2021, I want to

00:24:18.920 say. So, after, kind of after your two-year relationship? Oh, yeah. Okay. And how long

00:24:26.160 did you date him? Like a week or two. Oh, a week or two. Okay. So, a couple things here.

00:24:31.880 So, he, guy seemed like he was crazy and on drugs. Yes. So, you met him where? Uh, Tinder.

00:24:39.740 Tinder. Okay. And then, uh, how long were you guys messaging on Tinder?

00:24:44.200 Tinder. Mm-hmm. Like, for a day. Did you meet, did you meet up with him the same day

00:24:50.840 that you matched with him? No, I think that maybe it would, it's either that day or the

00:24:56.360 day. The next day. After, yeah. Okay. Um, and did you, uh, where did you guys meet? Did

00:25:03.280 you, did you just go to his house or? Yeah. Okay. What time of night was it? Probably like

00:25:08.320 10 p.m. 10 p.m.? Mm-hmm. And did he invite you or did you suggest it? Like, how did that

00:25:14.180 go about? He invited me. Was, was he just like come over? Um, yeah, pretty much. Okay. And

00:25:22.240 you said he seemed like he was crazy and on drugs. Yes. So, when you say he seemed like

00:25:27.320 he was crazy and on drugs, what can you describe, uh, perhaps elaborate a bit on his behavior?

00:25:32.960 Yes. He wouldn't make eye contact with me when talking to me and would just kind of look

00:25:39.040 up into the sky, not really like in the conversation. Um, his speech and his talking patterns were

00:25:47.580 very monotone and robotic. Mm-hmm. And then again, he had no furniture in his house. I thought

00:25:55.420 that was a little off. Had he just moved in? No. Like not in the bed? Okay. He had a

00:26:02.880 blow-up mattress. And then you also said you thought he was going to kill you. So, was

00:26:09.980 he acting kind of, uh, unpredictably? Was he seemed angry? Yeah. He seemed a little manic.

00:26:18.960 Not angry, just like the kind of people that randomly kill you. I don't know if that's a thing.

00:26:26.880 Was that exciting to you? No, no, no. No. Okay. Well, despite this, you said it was okay because

00:26:36.360 I thought he was gorgy. Yeah. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. Um, so he's an attractive guy. Um, yeah. Tall? Yeah.

00:26:44.600 How tall? Like 6'2". And then white guy? No, Asian. Asian guy. Okay. And? And he was 6'2"?

00:26:55.980 Yeah. That's like 7'2". And white person. Um, wait. And you said, uh, wait. So, and gorgeous.

00:27:06.880 Yeah. Like, very handsome. Um. Vietnamese guy? Conventionally. Vietnamese? No. Filipino?

00:27:13.940 I, I don't know. Chinese? I think Japanese. Japanese. Okay. Uh, you, you then say,

00:27:20.000 we proceeded to sleep together. Yeah. And then after, he asked for feedback on the sex. Question.

00:27:25.940 So, you said you, you went over there at 10pm, right? Yeah. Uh, you go into the house. There's

00:27:32.960 the no furniture. Mm-hmm. Um, how soon after 10pm did you guys start hooking up? Probably

00:27:40.020 like an hour later. One hour later? Yeah. Okay. And like, did he put the moves on you or did

00:27:44.760 you put the moves on him? Oh, he did. He did. Yeah. Okay. Um, and then he asked for feedback.

00:27:52.260 Yes. So, was the, was the sex bad? Um, no, it was fine. It was, it was just fine? Yeah.

00:27:58.960 It was like average or whatever? Yeah. What feedback did you provide him? Um, I, he, he was just kind

00:28:07.700 of asking, like, did you like that? And I was like, sure. Sure? Yeah. You didn't like

00:28:13.360 it. You said sure? You didn't like it. Yeah. I wasn't very receptive to his questions.

00:28:19.120 What, what were some of the questions? He was just kind of talking about new moves. He

00:28:26.200 was trying out. Wait, he was, new move? Yeah. New move. New move. What was that?

00:28:33.200 Of course. Yeah. New positions, new moves. Did he have names for him? No, he didn't. No

00:28:42.620 names. He's like, I'm trying this out, girl. Let me show you what I'm made of. Well, I

00:28:46.480 feel like you have to perfect the move before you came in. Did you ask him where he, where

00:28:50.120 he got the move ideas from? No, I, I think I know where he got them from. Where'd he get

00:28:55.340 them from? His boyfriend? Yeah, probably. Um, wait. So, okay. He was asking,

00:29:03.180 asking you on feedback, like on the moves he did during the sex or like? Uh, after

00:29:09.100 he asked me about like, I don't know how I felt. Like a debrief, like debriefed the sex

00:29:17.540 with you? Yeah, yeah. It was a debrief. Debrief. Wait, so, um, but okay. So he asked for feedback.

00:29:22.720 What else did he ask? Not much. Not much. Okay. Like walk me through it. What did I do? How

00:29:32.220 did I do it? He was, he was talking about like sex in a philosophical way. Um, yeah. You

00:29:41.880 fucked Confucius. Yeah, I don't know. Private chat. Um, so wait, okay. Um, so he was like,

00:29:54.920 he was like, was it good? Like, did he seem unsure of, of it or? Yeah, I'd say a little

00:30:02.920 bit, maybe. Did he want a rating? A rating? A rating. A rating. He would probably ask that.

00:30:11.260 Yeah. Like, did he give you like a one through ten scale? He didn't, but I think that's a thing

00:30:17.040 he would have done. And so you said. At any point, did he shout combo? No. No? Okay.

00:30:26.220 Now, you said that, uh, you, anyway, you really liked him. He turned out to be cool. Yeah. And

00:30:32.420 you dated for a little while, which in this case was about a week. Yeah. Um, was he, did

00:30:41.480 you hang out with him multiple times? Yes. How many times? Two, three, four? A couple,

00:30:47.600 like. Three, four. Three, four, sure. Five. Yeah. Okay. Uh, was he, did he seem like he

00:30:56.400 was crazy and on drugs the other times too? Um, no. Or did he chill out? He, I didn't fully

00:31:05.780 like trusted him. He still had a little crazy in him, but overall I thought it was worth the

00:31:13.060 risk. Of getting killed because you also thought he was going to kill you. Well, I, I have this

00:31:19.740 mindset that if I get killed in like an obscure way, like a shark attack or something, that's

00:31:26.520 fine because I'll be infamous for it. What? Oh my gosh. Okay. So you were okay being killed

00:31:36.920 in this dude's random apartment? I didn't want to. By chance, uh, if you, if you don't mind

00:31:42.820 me asking, are you in any type of antidepressant or antipsychotic drug? No. No? No. But you

00:31:51.820 say you were a little crazy. Um, I think in a conventional way, like everyone's a little

00:31:58.260 crazy. Do you just like give into your impulsive thoughts, like the little voice in your head

00:32:03.540 you do it? Not always. Just that one time. But like the, like American psycho, like no furniture

00:32:13.480 thing wasn't like a red flag? No, it was, it was definitely a red flag. Also just update on

00:32:19.720 private chat. What am I going to do? Go home? Yes. Yes. Go home. You thought being on the

00:32:26.840 five o'clock news for something like that was a good idea or? Yeah. Well, not a good

00:32:31.140 idea. Just the best way to go out. Hmm. Okay. And, uh, do you, have you. I really want

00:32:39.420 to ask you the bear and the man question so bad right now. I really do. I do. We can,

00:32:45.600 uh, we'll do, uh, maybe we just, we could start with that. Um, all right. So ladies, you

00:32:56.240 randomly get spawned into a forest. You can choose to have either a random man or a random

00:33:04.240 bear also randomly spawn into this forest and you'll cross paths with them. Do you pick

00:33:11.600 the random man or the random bear? And we'll start with you. Then we'll go around the panel

00:33:16.200 and go ahead. Bear. I'll take two bears. Wait, wait, wait, what? What? I'd rather have

00:33:25.160 two bears than a single man. What if the bear didn't have any furniture in its house and you

00:33:31.960 thought it was a psychopath and on drugs and, uh, you might've been on the five o'clock news

00:33:36.460 for it eating your face. Would you choose the bear that? Yes. Okay. It's an obscure

00:33:42.220 way to go out. Andrew, she just, you know, she just said it being, I mean, having a bear

00:33:46.340 eat your face is a pretty obscure way to go out. I gotta tell you. Yeah. I agree. That's

00:33:50.900 what makes it cool. Yeah. So why wouldn't you, why wouldn't you, so you're going to choose

00:33:55.520 the bear because you think it's a more novel way to go out? No, I, I trust the bear

00:33:59.540 more either way. Hmm. Okay. Uh, we'll get the answers from everybody. Um, a man, a man,

00:34:09.540 a bear, a bear, a bear, a man. So wait, just bear, bear, bear, bear. Do we have that correctly?

00:34:19.000 You, you four. Okay. So starting with you, uh, why? I feel like I could get away from a bear

00:34:24.900 a lot easier than I could get away from a man personally. On the basis of what? Like

00:34:31.600 if a man, if a man was approaching me, I would freak out. If a bear was approaching me, I'd

00:34:36.240 freak out. But like, I know I just trust the bear more than a man. You think the bear is

00:34:42.380 slower than? No, not saying that. I can't outrun a bear. Oh, okay. I'm just saying, I think

00:34:48.180 I could get a bear to leave me alone better than I could get a man to leave me alone in that

00:34:52.360 circumstance. All right. What about you? Well, the bear is really cute and cuddly and furry

00:34:59.640 and isn't going to try to do me. Isn't going to try to do you. Okay. All right. Well, why,

00:35:09.180 why do you pick bear? Um, because I feel like, I feel like just living under score donated $200.

00:35:16.380 That girl and her tall Vietnamese BF must be part of this moist mafia. What is moist? What's

00:35:23.280 moist mafia? Listen, as a, as the only trillionaire bachelor on this panel, that's really not your

00:35:30.520 concern, right? It's your concern as one of my handlers to do the show. That's your only

00:35:35.160 concern. Oh, okay. Um, why do you pick bear? Um, because I feel like, I know I can't talk

00:35:41.620 them out of it, but I feel like I could communicate better with the bear. You could wait, like body

00:35:47.940 language. What? You, you communicate better with, with the bear. Yes. So like, are you a, a bear

00:35:55.440 whisperer almost? No, but I feel like they can sense your energy and I, I'm not out to hurt a bear. So

00:36:07.680 I think that they would know that and understand that. I think every person killed by a bear

00:36:12.480 thought that too. Uh, but so, and then I guess, why do you pick the bear? And perhaps I should add

00:36:20.440 this too. Why do you pick the bear and why don't you pick the man? I, I don't trust men. I trust bears

00:36:27.560 more. You trust bears more. But like you went into this guy's apartment, like, did you not trust him

00:36:36.240 at all? I trusted him, but he wasn't like a stranger, a strange man. You talked to him

00:36:44.360 for a day. I had known of him. And you slept with him, right? Yeah. Like you met up with

00:36:52.060 him and you let him have sex with you. A strange guy who you didn't know at all. But the concern

00:37:00.200 here is that a bear, right? The bear, the bear is what we're concerned, we're not concerned

00:37:06.680 about. Not concerned about the wild animal here. He wasn't a strange man. I, I had known

00:37:12.920 of him before. Wait, when you went over, you said that you thought he was crazy and on drugs

00:37:20.740 and you thought he was going to kill you. Yes, I was. Wait, I have a question. Would

00:37:27.680 you pick the bear or the guy? The guy that you're no longer seeing anymore? Would you

00:37:32.700 pick the bear or him? That's a good question. Probably the bear. Oh, okay. Because you trust

00:37:41.640 the bear more. Yeah, I guess so. Okay. Oh, and then just going back to you two. So you

00:37:51.800 said why you pick the bear. Why don't you pick the man? So if it's a man that I don't

00:37:57.180 know we're meeting in the, not meeting, but like we see each other in the woods, there's

00:38:00.720 nobody around. I'm, I don't want that. Like, I don't, you never know what can happen when

00:38:06.960 you're like alone as a woman with a man. Okay. Um, why do you not pick the man? I second

00:38:14.720 that. Um, I just feel like if there's only one man and one woman, I feel like they're

00:38:22.160 going to just like try to recreate or procreate or whatever. And I'm just not down with that.

00:38:27.840 Well, I don't think in this scenario you're the only two people left on earth. Oh, it's

00:38:34.660 just, you are in the forest. You're in the forest. Can't I leave? You spawn. Yeah, you

00:38:40.220 could leave. Oh, you could go back to society. It's like a mile away or some shit. Okay. So

00:38:45.280 I don't have to do either. What do you mean? Like I could go into the forest. If I have to

00:38:50.620 choose, I could just turn around, walk away. While you're in the forest, you get spawned

00:38:54.920 in and then instantly there's like a, a bud at two buttons. You spawn in a random man or spawn

00:39:01.640 in a random bear. I guess it doesn't matter then because I could spawn in and then leave.

00:39:07.520 No. So in this scenario, you will cross paths, even if, as you're trying to leave the forest,

00:39:13.720 it's going to take you 10 minutes to get out of the forest. Still the bear. Still the bear.

00:39:18.080 Okay. All right. Uh, and then you, why do you pick bear? Because I really love bears. Oh my

00:39:24.000 I'm not. Okay. Okay. But again, if you give me any other animal, I choose a man. Any other

00:39:30.940 animal. And then, but why do you not pick the bear? Wait, a bear? Wait, wait, wait, what? A man or a dog

00:39:36.620 then? Okay. Again, a man. I don't really like dogs, period. Cat? I do like cats. Okay. How big is

00:39:44.140 the cat? What about a porcupine? It's like a house cat. It's a house cat. Okay. Well, I do like

00:39:49.260 cows cats. Okay. I'll choose a cat. Porcupine. Okay. I'll choose a porcupine. I'd rather come

00:39:54.320 across a porcupine. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, I do, I do like porcupines. I had, you know, I, I

00:40:00.980 had one at home when I was a kid. Okay. All right. Um, you had a pet porcupine? It was

00:40:06.940 not a pet, it was not a pet porcupine. So there was a porcupine and then we brought it home and

00:40:12.540 then we did release it afterwards. So it's like, my dad was really into animals. So he brought

00:40:18.600 and like really random small animals. Released it after how long? Uh, like a few days. But

00:40:24.820 like we had like. That sounds, that sounds very much like a pet. I just. A few days is

00:40:29.960 a pet? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I wouldn't consider it a pet still, but I mean, okay. So

00:40:36.880 you had a pet porcupine? Okay, sure. I mean, by your definition. Are they easy to pet? Can you

00:40:41.800 pet a porcupine? Um, I tried. And if you go like against a very specific

00:40:48.360 grain, it doesn't really hurt, but I did get pricked a few times.

00:40:56.000 Emma, I'm going to have you read some of these chats for us.

00:40:59.360 I'm scared. Here, put it.

00:41:05.100 Gosh. Can you read it? You see up on the screen? Can you read it? Oh. Ladies, he said bear.

00:41:13.540 Would you rather come across a man in the woods or go to a Diddy party? Which one

00:41:19.760 do you pick? Okay, I'm going to preface some things. If, say, I were to go to the

00:41:26.300 Diddy party. I'm, I don't, I'm not engaging in any Diddy activity with Diddy, with a Diddy

00:41:32.840 affiliate. Says who? Says me. I wouldn't. Um, but I don't think I could be in the same

00:41:39.720 space as something, like, so nefarious. So I don't think that I would, I could go to

00:41:44.520 a Diddy party. I'd, I'd rather come across the bear. No, it's, uh, come across a man

00:41:48.900 in the woods. Oh. Or go to a Diddy party. I mean, there's other women at a, there's

00:41:54.540 other women at a Diddy party. But. Yeah, I don't know. Is that true? I don't, I don't

00:42:00.520 know if there's always other women at these Diddy parties. Oh my God. Hmm. Yeah, from what I

00:42:06.380 heard, it's not always. Yeah, you know what? I would, I would take, I would take

00:42:10.120 the man in the woods, because one, I'm not engaging in any Diddy activity. Two, I

00:42:14.900 couldn't be in a space, like, knowingly, with Diddy activity going on. I, that's, I

00:42:19.960 couldn't. Oh, by the way, really quick, uh, Alex over here, she, uh, painted me a

00:42:26.100 miniature on canvas, uh, of the bow here. I'm gonna do, lift it up. Oh, can I turn it?

00:42:33.400 There you go. Look at that. That's cool. Okay. Thank you, Alex. That was very

00:42:36.300 nice of you. Thank you. Of course, you were really cool. I want a bigger, I want a bigger

00:42:39.360 canvas version of it, though. I can do that. Um, so for you, come across a man in the woods

00:42:45.100 or go to a Diddy party? I would do a man in the woods. Okay. Because I could probably

00:42:51.320 take one man versus multiple men at a Diddy buddy. Okay. If I had to fight them. All right.

00:42:58.340 Clarification. The man. Okay. Versus the Diddy party? Mm-hmm. 100% the man. All right. Thank you

00:43:05.180 for that one. We have another chat here. I'm gonna have you read it again. Let's go center

00:43:08.240 zoom and let's, uh, hide. So you chose me, huh? Well, I'll just rip out your face in

00:43:16.420 one hit and each year remains. Can't run from me after I crush your head. Open with

00:43:23.160 my foot. More food for me. Bears, we up. Grizzle, grizzle. Grizzle. That's a good one. Um, I do

00:43:32.060 have a couple clarifying questions here on this, uh, man versus bear question. Um, does

00:43:38.520 it change? Does your answer change at all? If the random man who gets spawned in, it's

00:43:47.900 a random Asian man. Me? Yeah. Does it change? Random Asian man. Now it could be Asian American.

00:43:57.840 It could be Philippines, like from the Philippines. It could be from Mongolia. That's so nuanced

00:44:04.440 because at the end of the day, like a man is a man, but I know in certain Asian countries

00:44:09.220 that the, the rates for rape are much lower. Can you use grape or use SA? Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.

00:44:18.360 All right. Okay. So what about, okay. Going around the table, just yes or no question really

00:44:24.320 quick on the Asian man. No. Doesn't matter. Asian man or bear? Oh. Bear. Okay. Bear. Bear.

00:44:35.040 Black man or bear? Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Bear. Okay. George Floyd or bear?

00:44:46.880 Bear. Bear. Bear. Damn. Okay. Is that a fighter? Huh? Is that a fighter? Oh, boy. You talk

00:44:58.000 about George Foreman. George. He did, he did get, he did get into a fight once. Um, I guess

00:45:04.780 still a bear. Bear. Still a bear. All right. Okay. Um, wait. So you brought up SA. Just curious.

00:45:12.120 So, I mean, you must be doing, all of you must be doing some sort of risk assessment

00:45:16.700 as to, well, what's the chance that a guy like either murders me or SA's me basically. So,

00:45:23.020 I mean, so what do you guys think is the percentage chance of, or what percentage of men do you

00:45:31.800 think would be inclined to, in this situation where you're alone with him in the woods, would

00:45:36.500 be inclined to attack you in some way? What percent? Let's say of a U.S. man.

00:45:44.680 75%. 75%. Okay. 50. 50%. 50. 50%. 50%. I'd say like, um, 10 to 15%. 10 to 15. Wait,

00:45:55.060 so you said 75% was it? Yes. 75% of men. Yes. So three out of four men would SA you? Yes.

00:46:06.900 Damn. Uh, that's pretty high. Uh, how did you, how did you come to, to, is this backed by a statistic

00:46:14.900 you're aware of or how do you come to that? Just my opinion, not saying like me specifically,

00:46:19.720 but like a woman, I think three out of four men in that circumstance, there's a, there's definitely

00:46:26.560 a possibility that they would seize whatever opportunity that came to their mind. Three

00:46:32.480 out of four men. Yes. Do you think knowing this, if we, have you seen, it's a very old movie,

00:46:39.220 so maybe you have it, Minority Report? No. So there's, you could essentially, uh, before someone

00:46:45.200 committed a crime, people were able to like find out through this sort of sci-fi situation,

00:46:50.500 you could determine if they would commit a crime in the future and then people would just get

00:46:54.580 arrested. Would you be in favor of something like that for men? For everybody. I don't, I would.

00:47:01.400 But do you think we should, I mean, you, you think three out of four men would, would

00:47:05.160 SA women. Should we imprison those men preemptively? No. No. Okay. Even though they're three out of

00:47:13.540 four men, you think it is an absolute definite, like this person is going to SA someone. Wait,

00:47:21.180 let me ask you a different question. Okay. Removing this hypothetical scenario. Sure. Do you think

00:47:26.220 three out of four men who live in reality, who are currently alive at some point in their life will

00:47:31.660 SA a woman? No. Do you think three out of four men at some point in their life will be alone with a

00:47:41.360 woman? Yes. But so I'm a little confused here. Okay. You said three out of four. Hang on. Hang on.

00:47:48.000 I understand what you're saying here. Let me see if I can clarify it. Do you think that three in five

00:47:53.860 men, if given the opportunity would get away with it a hundred percent and nobody would ever find out

00:47:57.980 what SA a woman? Yes. Okay. I think she said three in four. Three out of four. Excuse me. Yes.

00:48:04.100 Three out of four. Seventy-five percent. Seventy-five percent. Yeah. Wow. Okay. What about the male

00:48:12.400 students at UCSB? Three out of four? I don't go to UCSB. I wouldn't know. Oh. City College.

00:48:20.800 I genuinely don't know. I genuinely don't know. And it's not like a, for a fact, 75 percent of men

00:48:27.560 would commit some type of SA if possible. That's not what I'm saying. Okay. Chat, what's the adult

00:48:36.520 male population in the USA? So 168 million men. It says 165 million adult males. So 75 percent of

00:48:47.960 165. I mean, you're probably within the margin of error there, Q. Yeah. Yeah, give or take five

00:48:53.840 million. So 123. Let's just say 123 million. Well, because they don't count all the illegals,

00:48:59.480 right? Right. Wait. So do you think that 123 million men in the United States are inclined

00:49:07.040 to this sort of thing? What are the SA statistics of last year? Oh, really low. I can tell you

00:49:15.540 that. Low? Okay. That's great. I'm just using your numbers. Yeah, yeah. No, I genuinely

00:49:23.640 don't know. So. But you said three and four. Right. Three and four in the situation. In

00:49:30.280 the situation. Yeah, of the bear. Or in the woods. Yeah, in the woods. Yeah, in the woods.

00:49:36.340 Okay. So if you want to put it in population numbers, you said 125 million? So, well, three

00:49:43.740 or four men would be 123 million men. 123 million. Men in the United States would do this. I think

00:49:51.620 there's a possibility that in the situation of the woods. Yeah, if they were put in the

00:49:56.640 woods. 123 million men. I think there's definitely a high possibility. Do you have a brother?

00:50:02.560 I do. I have two. Two brothers. So one of your brothers then would SA a woman in this situation?

00:50:11.200 Based on random probability. Well, you said three out of four. So one of them would definitely.

00:50:15.820 Or four and five. So. Well, let's say when they come of age, when they become adults,

00:50:23.460 your brothers, one of them. No, I mean, four out of five is higher. That would be a higher

00:50:27.360 percentage, right? So if it was only split between two and it was four out of five, then

00:50:31.240 that means almost certainly one of them would. Well, three or four. But I mean, obviously

00:50:34.400 you can't have a quarter of a person. I think it's the ages, right? The ages of four. Oh,

00:50:37.040 yeah, yeah. Ages of four and five. She said the ages of five. Yeah. So what do you think

00:50:45.040 one of them when they become adults will? My brothers? No. Oh. Do you have, you just

00:50:53.120 have two brothers, right? Yes. You have a father? Yes, I do. Male cousins? Yes. Uncle? Yes. Grandparents?

00:51:00.000 Yes. Grandfather? Three out of four of your male relatives, are they also, you think they

00:51:06.740 are also essayers? Absolutely not. Well, hold on. What's going on in your family that is

00:51:16.980 so... Pious? Morally virtuous as compared to the general population? I think we could take

00:51:24.340 everybody's family here and ask the question around the table. Do you think that your father,

00:51:29.440 brother, cousin, father, brother, cousin, so on and so forth would be an essay-er? And

00:51:35.780 I genuinely believe everyone would say no. It's a possibility. I would say yes. Okay.

00:51:42.280 Not me. Okay. I agree. My family would not. I have one brother, one dad. Hell no. Oh, no.

00:51:48.820 No. Okay, now we got to do it again. No, no. We got to do it again. No. Here, repeat after

00:51:55.100 me. No. No. No. Okay. That's a little bit harder. And, oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. No.

00:52:05.440 No. No. Did I get that? Okay, a little better. A little better. No. No, but I would be the same.

00:52:10.720 Like, how would you know that if, again, you know, your point was if they were in that

00:52:21.380 situation where no one would ever find out, how do you know for certain that none of your

00:52:27.200 relatives would do it? Because to me, my relatives aren't random. Okay. Well, they don't have to be

00:52:33.940 random, and it doesn't have to be you. Right. It's just in general. Like, how would you know

00:52:39.460 that your specific relatives would not do it if it's three and four? Like, and again,

00:52:45.580 no one would ever find out. How can you know for certain that they would not do it?

00:52:51.320 You can never know for certain. I couldn't know for certain. Do I believe in my heart that

00:52:55.040 that would never something that would take place? Yes. But the question that was posed was

00:53:00.340 random men. So, and my family members aren't random to me. A person walking down the street,

00:53:07.540 would I want to be put in the woods with them? Absolutely not. Would I be put in the woods

00:53:11.400 with my father? Sure. That's a camping trip. Well, what do you... One of the things that

00:53:15.780 kind of hits here, though, is that eight in ten of the women who report that this has happened

00:53:23.160 to them report that it happened from a person that they knew very well. Yeah. I was about

00:53:28.840 to say that. I wasn't going to say the same thing after they got done. Your likelihood

00:53:32.020 of being S8 depends mostly on the person knowing you. I'll say random men, but a random man doesn't

00:53:40.040 know you either. And the first thought in his mind is not going to be, oh, that's what I

00:53:43.740 want to do. He doesn't know you. Most guys, when they get comfortable with you is when they

00:53:48.680 feel comfortable enough to make a move on you. And it's because you could send them signals

00:53:53.640 to where they interpret it as you're interested. You're finally alone. They get the confidence

00:53:57.740 to actually do that. Most men don't have the confidence to even do that. Most men are scared

00:54:01.180 to talk to women. They don't even approach women. They won't express sexual interest.

00:54:07.640 A random man in the woods, he see you, hell, he might be scared of you, honestly. And knowing

00:54:12.720 modern women, he's like, this bitch might report me for rape. I'm sorry. Great. She might

00:54:18.180 falsely report it. I ain't touching her.

00:54:19.680 Okay. So that's something to consider. I mean, when y'all answering these questions,

00:54:25.740 you know, remember that, like Andrew said, most of the time when this occurs, it's by

00:54:29.600 somebody you know. Yeah, I didn't know that statistic. So thank you for educating me on

00:54:33.280 that. I didn't know. Absolutely. Thank you. Andrew, did you have, I think you're asking

00:54:39.960 Emma here something because you said, I really want to do the bear versus man thing. Did you

00:54:44.800 want to get into more of that or? Yeah, I just, I think, I just find it ironic that you have kind

00:54:54.520 of this concern that if a random man was just kind of pulled out of the entire demographic of

00:54:59.880 the United States, put in a forest with you, that you would take a bear, which of course,

00:55:05.480 pound for pound, you do realize could tear you to pieces very, very quickly, right?

00:55:08.540 Yes, I do know that. Okay. But you have indeed gone and met with complete strangers who you even

00:55:17.940 had terrible feelings about, right? And thought you were going to end up on the news and just kind

00:55:23.840 of justified it with, well, that's a hell of a way to go, right? Doesn't that seem a little contrary

00:55:29.940 to your position that you would trust a strange bear over a strange man? Carson, can you close the

00:55:35.400 doors? Uh, I, I feel like bears don't have the intentions that men do. And I think that men have

00:55:44.380 sometimes, especially if it's a stranger, horrible intentions. Okay. So I have a question. Like you

00:55:51.620 said that, you know, you ignored all the red flags because he was gorgeous. What, what if it wasn't

00:55:57.760 absolutely like 10, 10, you're perfect type man versus a bear? Um, probably,

00:56:05.560 probably him then. Yeah. What kind of bear are we talking about? Black bear or a grizzly bear?

00:56:14.340 Let's go grizzly because y'all try to take the easy way out with bears that are less aggressive. So

00:56:18.760 let's go grizzly. Opportunistic predator, omnivore, and has been known to attack people and kill people

00:56:24.420 when the opportunity is given. Let's go grizzly.

00:56:33.320 I'll still try to cuddle with it. You'll still try to cuddle with the grizzly? Five feet at the

00:56:38.180 shoulder. I think I can earn his trust. 1200 pounds. I mean, I don't, I still don't understand this

00:56:43.320 either though, because black bears are extremely dangerous. They're in the top five, right? They're

00:56:49.060 in the top five categories. And it's like, I, this idea that, ah, it's a black bear. It's fine

00:56:54.540 because black bears are like the cute cuddly kind. It's like, they're, they're still really,

00:56:59.140 really dangerous, especially because they become acclimated to human beings because they feed them

00:57:02.800 all the time. Right. So they get really comfortable. So it's like, uh, they're still really

00:57:08.200 dangerous. So I just, just pointed that, I mean, yeah, grizzlies are, are more dangerous. I, I grant that,

00:57:13.900 but black bears are still really, really dangerous. I don't, I would still just go with random bear.

00:57:24.040 Still bear. Everybody still bear. I have a couple of clarifying questions. Maybe these will help.

00:57:29.440 Uh, so I wonder if Austin, do you know that video of like the bear crossing on the road?

00:57:36.840 I'm not sure. Uh, let me, it might be in the downloads folder, but I don't know exactly where it is.

00:57:43.900 If you can try to find it. Um, so, uh, let's see. Okay. You're on the top floor of a burning

00:57:52.300 building for an appointment. There's two elevators. You got to take the elevator to get down.

00:57:59.280 Elevator one has bear in it. Elevator two has a man in it. Burning building. You got to get down

00:58:05.040 to the ground floor. You got to take the elevator, which elevator do you pick the one with the bear

00:58:10.840 or the one with the man in it? And then you're the only one there and the man, there's no other

00:58:16.040 people. The man, man, man. In that case, I would choose a man. Okay. Huh? All right. Um,

00:58:26.140 Hmm. Interesting. All right. Well, the bears would start freaking out like completely. It's a burning

00:58:32.280 building. And then Brian is a burning building. The man kind of get it trying to get out too.

00:58:35.800 Yeah. So if you, if you, I mean, not before there would be enough time. Oh, uh, woman

00:58:43.300 coming in the elevator, fire woman. Definitely. It's my last opportunity. I might not make it

00:58:49.540 out. The whole point of this was that not every man has that intention. Facts. What?

00:58:54.680 They don't. That's a joke. I think that's a joke. I was like, everyone wants to get

00:58:58.680 us a damn title. That was your first thought. You wanted to talk about Emma. You wanted to

00:59:04.300 talk about hookup culture and toxic relationships. Uh, what about hookup culture? Did you have

00:59:09.100 thoughts on? It's all bad. It's bad. Yes. When's the last time you hooked up with somebody?

00:59:14.180 Mm. Probably the last guy who I thought was going to kill me. Wait. Um.

00:59:22.740 The Asian guy. Yeah. You said that was when? 2019? Or wait. 21. Or 2021. So like three

00:59:34.020 years ago? Yes. Wait. You have not hooked up with somebody since then? Actually, that's

00:59:42.760 false. You're a fucking liar. You're a fucking liar. What's false? Uh, I actually have hooked

00:59:51.260 up with a couple people. Um, my ex that was with for a couple years. The, wait. Uh, the

00:59:58.640 two-year guy? Yeah, two-ish. It was off and on for another like two years, I'd say. Is

01:00:06.980 this after the no furniture murderer guy? Um, it's kind of, that was kind of in between

01:00:13.060 that. Hmm. Okay. Uh, wait. So when's the last time that you hooked up with somebody?

01:00:21.120 Like last week? No, not last week. A month ago? Probably like a year or two.

01:00:28.280 Nobody in 2024. So think about 2024. Nothing? Correct. But like, didn't you say you were

01:00:33.280 like in a few situationships this year? Yeah. Like, were they not? You didn't? And

01:00:38.560 they like were only like a week or two long. Yeah. Is, do you not consider that hooking

01:00:43.780 up? No, no. You were just talking to him? Um, yeah, dating. Yeah. You didn't sleep with

01:00:50.280 him? No. Okay. There was no, no carnal knowledge? No, I'm a nice girl. Just for a second. Just to

01:00:56.960 see how it feels. Wait, what do you mean you're a nice girl? Um, like I want a man to take

01:01:03.100 me out on a date or a couple of dates or a while. Oh boy. Right? What? Unless you, unless

01:01:09.840 you meet him on Tinder and show up to his house and. Right. Wait. Thanks. He's a serial killer.

01:01:15.480 Wait, I'm just, just curious. And hold on. I don't even know how to approach this. Um, so

01:01:25.500 you're, you said you're a nice girl. Correct. And you want a guy to take you on a couple

01:01:29.640 dates. Yeah. And so what does that mean? Like you want to want him to take you out to dinner

01:01:33.540 or what does that mean? No, just like date for a while. I feel like it's also about like

01:01:41.420 not just the timing, but I don't know how to explain it, but there's like a right time

01:01:48.840 and a wrong time. Ovulation? No. Um, so what do you mean? Like there's a certain time in

01:01:57.420 a relationship where I think like sex starts to happen specifically for me. Like it has

01:02:04.700 to be a while before anything that gets anywhere. So just to be clear, you, you have though been

01:02:10.300 like, you didn't hook up with them, but you were dating them for a period of time. Yeah. Um,

01:02:14.840 what I'm assuming they wanted to have sex with you. Um, probably they didn't try. No,

01:02:23.560 they didn't try. No, maybe that's. Hmm. Yeah. Okay. Because there's no furniture guy. He tried

01:02:32.760 with within an hour, but I guess some guys move slower. Um, so what is that point in a relationship

01:02:38.940 a month in? Yeah, I'd say a month in. Two months, three months? Yeah. Okay. And you

01:02:44.880 said you wanted a guy to like go on some dates first. Yeah. Okay. Let's say you met up with

01:02:51.000 the guy though on the first date and he, you liked him or whatever. Uh, and he tried, would

01:02:58.320 you have sex with him or would you be like, no, no, no, I like you, but like, let's wait a

01:03:04.120 minute. Is that something you do or? It depends. It depends on like what I'm feeling, but probably

01:03:10.260 not. Probably not. Okay. So you, you have, have there been guys who have tried to hook

01:03:17.240 up with you and you're like. Not that I know of. No, I don't think so. And you meet these

01:03:23.000 guys on Tinder? Not always. Oh, how are you? You said you were recently in a situation ship.

01:03:29.040 Was it a month ago? You said? Yeah. Uh, yeah. About. You guys didn't hook up? No. And

01:03:35.660 it lasted a week? Couple weeks. Couple weeks. Yeah. He was trying to hook up? No. How was

01:03:43.460 this? Was he coming over? Did y'all go out? Did y'all have? Yeah. We, we walked on the

01:03:48.120 beach a couple of times. We got like lunch. Did you kiss him? Did I? Yeah, of course. And

01:03:57.040 he never tried to escalate to anything more? I like introverted men, so maybe that's why.

01:04:03.920 Oh. Hmm. A little shy, maybe. Maybe they're like scared to make a move or something. Yeah,

01:04:11.180 that's definitely what it is. You don't like men who take charge? You don't like assertive

01:04:15.240 men? I mean, sometimes, but. Depending on how attractive he is? No, no, no. I feel like

01:04:22.400 there's a specific like type of person that I like and it tends to be like the introverted

01:04:29.260 men who don't make moves that often. So here's a question though. Let's say the next guy that

01:04:38.220 you meet and you, uh, I don't know. I don't know exactly all the circumstances of how it

01:04:44.920 goes down, but first time hanging out with him and you guys been hanging out for three

01:04:49.700 hours. You're at his place. You guys start making out, whatever. And then he wants to

01:04:55.080 take things further. Uh, would you take things further or would you be like, no, no, no, let's

01:04:59.300 wait. Probably not. I don't know. I think it also depends on specific scenario, but usually

01:05:09.000 I would say no. Wait, usually you would say no. Yeah. To that. Yeah. Or I mean, so just

01:05:16.960 curious, what was the, I mean, there was the, the six, two gorgeous Asian guy. Uh, did you

01:05:23.680 have this position when you were talking with him? No. Okay. So back then you were like, just

01:05:32.420 kind of that. Yeah. I went with the flow. And then what changed? The other guys wasn't as

01:05:39.400 attractive as the six, two Asian guy. No, no, no. That's not the case at all. Uh, I don't know. I

01:05:45.700 think what I look for in men is just not someone who like makes a move the first time we hang out.

01:05:54.360 Um, yeah, I, I've also, I think internally matured a lot to make that change.

01:06:02.420 Why you don't want to feel like you're being used for sex or they're just after. Sure. Yeah.

01:06:09.420 Okay. I didn't know there was a debate going on right now. It's like, um, Oh yeah. You're

01:06:15.700 talking about, there's the, yeah, yeah. I had a lot of flack for coming on tonight. Oh yeah.

01:06:21.820 I probably would have pulled out too, Brian. Uh, but, uh, I guess like we, this always comes

01:06:32.360 up on the show and it's always kind of, I still haven't been able to perfectly articulate kind of

01:06:37.340 why it rubs me the wrong way, but Q, maybe you can weigh in. It's like, so you told us this story,

01:06:44.940 uh, where you went over to a guy's house at 10 PM. You just met him and you slept with him within an

01:06:52.380 hour. Correct. And as a guy, look, it's your call as a woman. If you could have slept with a hundred

01:06:59.560 men within 30 minutes of meeting them first, first time. And then the hundredth one man,

01:07:06.980 number 101, you're going to make him wait until marriage. You can do that. Like that's your choice

01:07:13.000 as a woman. But if I was the guy in that perspective, if I was guy, potentially guy number 101 to come

01:07:20.000 around, I would not accept that in the, insofar as I just wouldn't, it would be such a, like almost

01:07:28.020 a slap in the face. I'd just be like, I'm not waiting for you. Goodbye. I don't want to date

01:07:32.560 you. And so I guess I'm trying to like wrap my head around like that whole thing.

01:07:40.760 Well, I mean, there's a couple of factors at play. Um, the first thing is closed mouths don't get fed.

01:07:46.200 So if a guy is with a girl and he doesn't make a move or he's not assertive, then she's going to,

01:07:51.740 she's going to take the path of, uh, least resistance. If he ain't asking, if he ain't

01:07:55.960 trying, she ain't going to give it up. She ain't just going to throw herself at her.

01:07:58.640 Oh, I'm so, yeah, I'm not talking to like in her situation where she's dating these introverts

01:08:02.340 that are scared to make a move. Like, for example, I've encountered this before where it's like,

01:08:06.960 you know, I tend to vet the girls a little bit. So I'll ask them about their past relationship

01:08:11.380 history, their dating history. And they'll typically reveal, yeah, I've had some one night

01:08:15.260 stands flings here and there. They'll say even as, you know, they'll even tell me how recently,

01:08:19.820 and then, uh, they'll be like, well, uh, I want to get to know you better. And I want to wait,

01:08:25.860 uh, three dates, blah, blah, blah. And all this shit. And I'm like, I'm just, I lose interest.

01:08:30.500 I'm like, okay, well, look, I am interested in long-term relationship, but I'm also not going to

01:08:35.020 wait three, four, five dates. I'm not going to wait one, two, three months for sex because I

01:08:40.680 I'm not a virgin. I'm not waiting. You're not a virgin either. We're both adults. Like,

01:08:46.420 yeah, women have these little episodes where they don't want to be, they don't want to be seen as

01:08:51.080 whores as well, even if they are. Um, it makes no sense to us as men, but there are guys,

01:08:56.960 there are moments where women decide like, I'm not going to do this again. Or they didn't like the

01:09:01.640 fact that they got hooked, they hooked up with a guy and the guy didn't stay around. So they're like,

01:09:05.840 I'm not going to give up sex too quickly because we also got to remember sometimes the guys that

01:09:09.920 women hook up with, they probably do want to pursue something further with. And the guy just

01:09:13.820 doesn't want to. So it's, it's, it's different scenarios. It's different, um, um, factors at

01:09:20.100 play. And as a guy, of course you have the right to say, no, I would in that same situation, I would

01:09:24.140 do what you do. Like, I'd be like, no, I'm not waiting. And other guys didn't have to wait, but

01:09:27.640 I'm typically the guy who gets it when I want it as soon as I want it. So I can't relate to the men

01:09:32.860 who wait in line or who get denied sex. So from that, from your perspective, I do understand,

01:09:38.980 but there are times where women are just like, I want to change. I want to be different. I want

01:09:44.280 somebody to court me. I want somebody to romance me. And they don't think about the fact that they've

01:09:48.320 been whores in the past. They don't, they don't consider that and they don't care.

01:09:51.780 But I mean, the thing with that though, is that I don't actually even believe that that's,

01:09:57.780 that's even genuine because if an attractive enough guy comes along and she knows, even if he's, uh,

01:10:05.120 direct about his casual intentions with her, if he's attractive enough, she'll still make the

01:10:11.900 rule. She'll try to roll paladins donated $200 and two cents. It's not that confusing. Be women

01:10:18.440 don't need to trust a man in order to sleep with a man. Stop swallowing your blue pill.

01:10:24.120 They are telling you that because you give off Billy vibes, don't be a chump.

01:10:28.500 Uh, not necessarily, not necessarily. I mean, but, but let me say to your point,

01:10:34.180 what they'll do, because I've experienced this is they'll try to change your mind.

01:10:39.100 That's what they try to do. They'll give it up and they'll go along with the flow thinking that

01:10:44.680 you'll change your mind. If you tell a woman, I'm not looking for anything serious. I just want

01:10:50.200 something casual. They'll try to change your mind. I've experienced that. And guys who also have

01:10:55.260 dealt with that will tell you that they'll try to change your mind. Yeah, sure. I guess my point

01:11:01.560 of contention is more so even as a guy, even if you're desirous of a serious relationship with this

01:11:06.680 girl, uh, she's going to withhold, but there's no actual guiding values or morals there. It's just

01:11:15.440 this arbitrary thing to get compliance from you basically. So, well, I have a much more, uh,

01:11:23.360 biological, psychological perspective. I think it's just the power of attraction. I think it's just

01:11:29.440 like with her case, that's why the dude that she found super, super attractive could have a mattress

01:11:34.680 on the floor and he could, she could still think that he was on drugs and would kill her, but she

01:11:39.340 still slept with him because she said he was gorgeous. That is just a neurophysiological response

01:11:45.420 in the female brain. If she finds you attractive enough, then she will overlook everything else about

01:11:49.940 you. That could be hazardous, a red flag, and she'll still sleep with you. That's the, that's

01:11:54.780 the way attraction works. It's biology. I could see that situation going both ways though. Like

01:11:59.140 she could still try to do the leverage move of like, I'm going to wait, wait, wait still, even in that

01:12:05.100 situation with a really attractive guy, or she breaks her rules for the really attractive guy and

01:12:10.320 fucks him anyways. I could see it going both ways. But again, my, my whole issue here is I

01:12:14.960 certainly acknowledge that it's more so from the perspective of, Hey, this woman, she's been

01:12:19.860 promiscuous in the past, gave it up easy. Now you're a guy, you're the next guy who comes along

01:12:25.020 and then she decides she's, you're the guy who she's going to make weight. And in my, my view,

01:12:31.480 I think that makes the, if the guy does wait, makes him a sucker. Absolutely. Makes him a total

01:12:37.140 sucker. And he shouldn't, he shouldn't, he should just go find a girl who has either gen. It's weird

01:12:43.420 though, because these girls could still have genuine desire for the guy, but still be, okay,

01:12:48.420 I'm going to play this game as leverage to get commitment or because I think that this

01:12:53.300 is the right thing to do or the right move to do, or this is what I read in fucking Cosmo

01:12:57.640 or I saw on some Tik TOK, you got to make the guy wait one, two, three months.

01:13:02.120 The self healing journey to find themselves, they're trying to change it up. Yeah. All of those

01:13:07.340 things play a factor in their attitudes towards how they proceed with next. I told you,

01:13:11.400 they just be trying to change, but they'll do this. Even if the guy, even if the guy

01:13:15.680 like for, at least for me, for example, so I don't have any qualms with sleeping the girl

01:13:21.460 on the first, second or third date. Right. No qualms there. And if I see long, long-term

01:13:26.620 potential, it's not going to matter if we hook up quickly. Right. Like, I don't know if you've

01:13:32.800 had that experience, probably your girlfriends, absolutely. Yeah. Long-term relationships.

01:13:36.380 Was it, let's wait two months and then get into a relationship, then have sex, or was

01:13:41.440 it have sex quick and we continue hooking up. Now we're in a relationship. It's right

01:13:45.300 there. It's that one. Yeah. That's my dynamic. Yeah. That's always been all my relationships.

01:13:49.040 So when these girls though come and they're like, well, I want to get to know you better.

01:13:51.820 I'm like, you just lost a relationship. I'm no longer interested. I tell them we can get

01:13:57.560 to know each other as we getting to know each other as we fuck it. So because I have no plans

01:14:03.780 to fuck you and then leave you and go on. Brian, doesn't that create a catch 22 for

01:14:07.260 you? What do you mean? Well, because you're like, well, wait a second. If you've had a

01:14:12.800 one night stand that somewhat disqualifies you because you're not willing to have the

01:14:17.720 one night stand with me. Right. Well, I don't want a one night stand though. No, I understand

01:14:22.960 you don't want it, but what, what triggers you about it or what gets you tilted about it

01:14:27.800 or whatever you, whatever kind of language you want is that they'd be willing to do that

01:14:31.860 with somebody, but not you. Like that's what the flag itself is. Right. Yeah. I, yeah, I

01:14:40.660 suppose that's a component of it. Yeah. Um, what's, well, I guess what's the catch 22

01:14:45.340 though? Well, because, um, then this means that even if this woman was trying to achieve

01:14:51.780 virtue or changed her mind or had made a mistake or had regrets about doing this thing, um, that

01:14:58.220 by telling you that she wanted to pursue virtue, wouldn't you be potentially removing

01:15:02.600 virtuous women from your pool, um, by kind of rejecting them outright because this is

01:15:09.340 not behavior they would do with you, but that is behavior that you would prefer a woman did

01:15:13.440 do with men. Hmm. Ah, interesting. Good point, Andrew. It's a good, it's a fair point. Although,

01:15:21.240 I mean, you've actually used this argument before, Andrew is the great hoe reformation. And so

01:15:29.920 is it actually virtue? Are they actually virtuous? Have they actually? Yeah. I think that that gets

01:15:35.540 to the heart of the contention, you know, so I'd like to, from the argument from your side. So every

01:15:39.840 side has, has an argument, right? So the argument from your side, I, I think that this is a compelling

01:15:45.100 one against you, but I think the compelling argument for you is that, well, if a woman is only

01:15:51.040 doing this for the purposes of impressing men, then she's faking virtue. That would be faking

01:15:59.280 virtue, right? So that's, that would be the big contention, I think, from, uh, from your end of

01:16:04.500 the argument. And I don't have an argument against that, by the way. I think that it kind of railroads

01:16:08.880 right there and I don't know where to go with it. Because you can never really tail. Yeah. How would,

01:16:13.500 how would you know? Exactly. Exactly. Right. So how would you ever know the difference of if

01:16:17.280 they're doing it because they're faking virtue or they're doing it because they genuinely wanted

01:16:22.900 to be virtuous, how could you actually tell the difference? And so I don't actually have

01:16:27.160 an answer to this. I call it the Brian conundrum, right? Or the Brian paradox or whatever you want

01:16:31.860 to say, right? Um, I don't have an answer for this. Okay. So let me add a caveat. Let me add a

01:16:37.220 caveat, Brian. Let's take your example. Let's say she does have a history of being promiscuous,

01:16:41.560 but she's been celibate for, say, the past two years. And she, and then you, you come across her

01:16:46.700 and she said, well, I've been celibate the past two years. Yeah, I've had one night stands in the

01:16:50.440 past, but for the past two years I've been celibate and I would like to keep it that way. And I would

01:16:54.440 like us to get to know each other. Would that pivot your perspective? I think that's, uh, there's

01:17:01.720 obviously nuance to these sorts of conversations. Uh, so I think yes, it would, uh, so long as, you know,

01:17:09.500 it was genuine. I'm assuming it is. Uh, yeah, I think I, it would depend how long she wanted to

01:17:15.920 wait then though. Okay. Uh, you want to wait three months, still not interested. Oh, like until

01:17:22.040 marriage, right? You want to wait, you want to wait. Oh no. Well that's not. Yeah. Three dates. I'll

01:17:27.720 give a three dates. Okay. All right. Three. I think you have said in the past that if a woman was

01:17:32.860 pursuing, uh, her religious values and seem to be adamant towards those, uh, that you would, you would

01:17:39.140 take that into consideration versus a secularist, right? That makes sense. I mean, that makes sense

01:17:45.760 to me, right? Maybe that's a sign then that you're not faking virtue. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think

01:17:52.200 kind of the issue here is in these sorts of situations is one, uh, the recency with which

01:17:59.500 they were engaged in a casual hookup. So I just would not, it would be very difficult for me to take

01:18:05.540 it seriously. For example, if a woman like two weeks prior had a one night stand or not even,

01:18:14.700 well, a lot of these, even, even secular atheist women who are not religious at all will do this

01:18:20.740 whole, they're not even in, it's not even in pursuit of any sort of religious, uh, for any

01:18:26.680 religious reasons. They'll just, Oh, I want to like, wait to have sex. I don't want to do that.

01:18:33.620 Blah, blah, blah. Hey, that's fine. Whatever. So I don't think it's, it's solely religious women who

01:18:39.480 will do this. It's also secular atheist women. Um, I guess, so my contention is one, the recency.

01:18:47.120 So if they did it two weeks ago, but now, Oh, you want to wait three months, but the two weeks ago,

01:18:50.760 you fucked a guy within 30 minutes of meeting him. I'm like, okay, lady. And then, uh, the other

01:18:57.500 thing some women will do, and then Austin, you'll pull up that first one here in a sec is

01:19:01.720 they'll, they'll be making a guy wait and also

01:19:06.760 fucking a dude while making the guy who they have their eye on for a long-term relationship.

01:19:16.580 They'll make him wait. Anybody here done that shit? Anybody? Come on, be honest. You guys

01:19:23.360 all done that shit. One at a time. Okay. Just to be clear. So no girl here has been hooking

01:19:29.340 up with the guy casually. And then you also, while hooking up with that guy casually, went

01:19:35.440 on a date with a guy who you potentially saw, uh, for who you potentially saw as a long-term

01:19:41.700 partner. Really? None of y'all been hooking up with the guy and he was casual. It was

01:19:47.520 kind of whatever, not monogamous, not, non-exclusive. None of you here while fucking him went on a

01:19:56.260 date with the guy. Really?

01:19:57.840 I would do the opposite.

01:19:59.400 You did it? Yeah.

01:20:00.540 Yeah. There you go. See, there you go. You did it.

01:20:02.400 I would do the opposite. I would do the opposite. I would, I would actually,

01:20:06.340 what's the opposite? So I would have the, the relationships with someone with whom I actually

01:20:11.340 saw the long-term, um, you know, potential, but I would not have sex with someone whom

01:20:18.120 I'm casually seeing at all. Then wait, why would you even bother casually seeing them?

01:20:23.880 Wait, aren't you, wait, aren't you in an open relationship? Um, it's not really open relationship.

01:20:28.880 Again, um, we're kind of, oh my God. Back underscore to underscore the underscore roots

01:20:37.820 donated $1,000. All right. Some champagne. Let's go. Great panel. Don't be shy to speak

01:20:44.120 up girls. Don't be shy to speak up girls. Yeah. It's been a bit of a boys, boys convo the

01:20:50.560 past 10 minutes. I agree with everything you guys said though. Okay. Um, yo back to the roots.

01:20:56.040 Thank you. Uh, appreciate it, man. Uh, do we have cups? Maddie, I'll have you pour.

01:21:00.720 Let's go. I feel like in order for those two scenarios to happen. The what? You need to

01:21:06.460 have a guy actually taking you on a date. All right, everyone. Get cups. And taking you

01:21:10.920 serious. Uh, wait, hold on. We need to. Oh, you don't want me to. Yeah, I'm going to pour.

01:21:16.320 Oh yeah. Bring the cups back. Oh yeah. My phone. Uh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

01:21:21.680 you can have one. Yeah. I was excited. Wait, before we pour, do you want some champagne?

01:21:26.440 Uh, no, thank you. Do you want champagne? Do you want champagne? And then Turkish? No,

01:21:32.300 me. Q? Yeah. So that's three, four cups. Okay. What about me? Andrew, get, Andrew, get

01:21:40.080 your vodka. It's coming. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Oh, it has to be 21. Yeah. Maddie and Savannah

01:21:46.380 can't have it. Oh, that's unlucky. Yeah. Don't worry. Do you want some champagne? Yes,

01:21:50.780 please. Okay. Wait, so five, five. Yes. Five. You can't have none. Ha, ha, ha, ha. No, I'm kidding.

01:22:02.020 Wow. Uh, back to the roots. Thank you. Thank you, sir. You're very, you're, you are, hold

01:22:10.280 on. Let me play the, he's a brave and a decent man. He's a pioneer. By the way, guys, go subscribe

01:22:15.440 to his channel. Um, all right. I'll let Maddie pour this. Sorry for the interruption here,

01:22:22.880 guys. Just had to get that popped. Uh, Q or Q, you want to just pour for us? Yeah, I gotcha.

01:22:28.740 Uh, so, oh, let's do the reacts really quick. Um, here, just if you guys can be quiet, can

01:22:39.860 I have you read, read this? All of it? Yeah, start with the title up there. Okay. Um, R2X

01:22:47.580 chromosomes. Oh, you can, yeah, the, skip that part. Okay. I'm, I'm, I'm unsure if I should

01:22:53.980 tell my boyfriend this information. I recently gone official with a man I've been dating

01:22:58.940 for a couple of months. He's kind, respectful, and considerate. I really think he could be

01:23:03.700 the one, but something is eating at me. I wanted to build slowly with this man so we didn't

01:23:08.920 become intimate until after going exclusive. But between the first date and that point, I

01:23:15.820 did see an old F. Friends with benefits. Oh, friends with benefit a couple of times. Back

01:23:21.900 then, I didn't think anything of it as I wasn't exclusive, but underestimated how much I would

01:23:27.680 care for my boyfriend and feel almost like I've cheated on him. Have I done something

01:23:31.700 wrong? Do I need to tell him? Will he end things with me? Update. There was mixed reactions

01:23:38.040 here, but my gut told me I should tell my boyfriend. He said, sorry, I don't want to be in a relationship

01:23:42.880 with someone who does that. Then he blocked me. Good for him. Before we do the cheers really

01:23:49.720 quick, so your reaction to that story. Okay, so look, recap here. She was dating a guy.

01:23:59.100 They were waiting to have sex until they were exclusive. From the first date to when they

01:24:04.760 became exclusive, she was withholding sex. But during that time, she was hooking up with

01:24:09.920 having sex with a friends with benefits, a different guy. During the entire time, she really

01:24:15.920 liked him. She wanted to be boyfriend-girlfriend long-term. She asks Reddit if she should tell

01:24:21.520 him because I guess it was eating away at her. She tells him. He's like, whoa, what the

01:24:26.300 fuck? And breaks up with her. One, do you think valid reason to break up with her? And then

01:24:32.780 two, do you think that's kind of shifty to be like, well, I'm going to withhold sex from

01:24:38.600 you while I'm pursuing a long-term relationship with you, all the while fucking this guy who's

01:24:45.660 not exclusive with me? I think it's good that she left him. Wait. He left her. I think that's

01:24:53.940 good. Okay. I'm really happy that she was honest with him. I don't think she really cared about

01:24:59.240 him. She just wanted to string him along. One, she shouldn't have done it. Two, I'm glad

01:25:04.600 she told him. Three, I'm glad he left her. All right. I think it's valid. Valid? Okay. Valid.

01:25:13.020 Valid. Yeah, it's absolutely valid. I mean, there's, it's like, why would you sleep with somebody

01:25:18.240 while you're actually interested in an exclusive relationship? Like, I don't know. It just does

01:25:25.620 not make sense. Sure. We'll follow up on that conversation here in just a sec, but we have to

01:25:31.800 do a cheers to Back to the Roots. Uh, here's to Back to the Roots. Salud. Salud. Salud.

01:25:39.920 Oh. Are you drinking from the bottle? It's empty. Oh, she's, okay. All right. I thought about it

01:25:46.040 this time. I did last time. Uh, we have, we have a couple chats. I just want to read two

01:25:50.180 really quick. So, uh, I'll have you read them. Okay. You want me to read them? Yeah, if you

01:25:54.840 can. Um, thank you, Chad. Camo sweater girl, number four talks fighting a lot. You, you jujitsu

01:26:02.740 LOL. Also Brian for the relationship status question at opening. Anyone, um, ever said,

01:26:09.240 uh, sex cult or harem? Uh, thank you, Chad Lord for the message. Um, I think somebody has

01:26:19.160 said they've been in a sex cult, but no harem. So thank you, Chad Lord. Appreciate it. And

01:26:23.940 then we have two more. We have this one. Oh, two cars that you really like. They're the

01:26:30.260 same kind of car, same price, 100 K first car has zero miles, never been used. Second

01:26:35.240 car is used and abused 200 K miles. And many men have done. What car do you pick?

01:26:40.480 Okay. Hold on. Why would they be the same price? Same kind of car, same price, 100 K? Did

01:26:48.100 I read that wrong? I think one was 100 K and the other was 200 K. Here, can you read it

01:26:51.500 one more time? Yeah, sorry. It's all good. Two cars that you really like. Oh. They are

01:26:56.900 the same kind of car and same price. 100 K. First car has zero miles, never been used. Second

01:27:03.680 car is used and abused. 200 K miles and many men have drove. What car do you pick? Okay.

01:27:10.380 So do you, uh, car one, zero miles, car two, 200,000 miles, which do you pick? Uh, car

01:27:18.240 one. Car one. Car one. Car one. Car one. One. So I would choose two because it's kind of

01:27:25.760 weird. It's kind of weird that it's at zero miles. Okay. Specifically with the car wise,

01:27:32.060 because, um, there are some cars that you kind of have to drive for a prolonged period of

01:27:39.060 time. Okay. Okay. It's got 20, it's got 25 miles on it. 25. Um, let's do it at like

01:27:44.880 a thousand miles and then I'll take car one. Car one. Okay. All right. If we're talking

01:27:55.720 about cars specifically. Okay. All right. I feel like they're trying to relate that to

01:27:59.540 like when, I know they are, then, you know, that's a different question. Can you read this

01:28:05.240 one? It's not that difficult to understand a woman's timeline of giving it up or giving

01:28:10.560 it up as a spectrum. Some guy get it earlier and some guys have to work for it. That's

01:28:16.620 their discrimination and based on aesthetics. Uh, Clay, thanks for the chat. You had something

01:28:22.180 on that queue or no, no, that's valid. That's not as valid. That's I agree with that statement.

01:28:26.540 Can I be honest? I think it's all about communication. I'm sorry to cut. Oh no, no,

01:28:29.760 you're good. Go ahead. No, no, please continue. Oh, okay. No, I mean like, of course I say

01:28:34.960 dating is unfair. So when I'm talking about women and I tell women that dating is unfair

01:28:39.620 to them, I have to be reasonable and objective when it comes to men too. Some men have to work

01:28:44.220 harder. Some men get it earlier. It's just the reality of dating. You just don't have it

01:28:48.780 as well as some other men. We're not equal. You know, sexual competition is a thing. Men have

01:28:53.560 to compete for women just like women have to compete for men, especially on, especially

01:28:57.060 modern dating. Dating is a mess now. So, I mean, it's just, it's the repugnant reality

01:29:03.520 of dating. What one guy can't get in a day, another guy can. It's just the reality of dating.

01:29:12.860 What an easier way to say this, and maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong, but this has always

01:29:17.640 seemed like common sense to me, Q, and maybe I can ask the panel this too, but doesn't

01:29:22.880 it seem like if you're an ugly dude, you should just pick an ugly woman and then your chances

01:29:27.200 greatly, greatly increase of, you know, getting the, you know, sex and everything else it is

01:29:33.840 that you want, marriage, et cetera. Don't a lot of people just kind of hit out of their

01:29:37.980 league? Yeah, that's the problem. People be aiming for the fucking stars. I mean, if you're

01:29:43.600 trying to date outside your league, especially physically, then you're not going to fare

01:29:47.620 well. But there's a such thing as assortative mating, and we typically get into relationships

01:29:53.180 with people that we're similar in attractiveness to, religiosity, political orientation, and

01:29:58.400 intelligence. So, if you're somebody who's not as attractive, but you're trying to date

01:30:02.080 somebody more attractive than that person, if it's a woman and you're not as attractive

01:30:05.560 as the guy that you're dating, he's going to fuck you, play you, leave you, because

01:30:09.520 you're not attractive enough for him to commit to. And if it's a woman, she's going to

01:30:13.420 take advantage of you. She's going to extract the resources that she can out of you as much

01:30:16.980 as you're willing to give, and you're not going to get it as soon as other guys get

01:30:20.440 it, if you get it at all, if you even get it at all. Yeah, but this brings up the great

01:30:24.320 whatever podcast conundrum, the great whatever podcast question of our time. How do ugly men

01:30:30.880 know what types of ugly women they should go for if all the women on whatever podcast always

01:30:36.880 say that they're tense? Oh, my God. Word. We need to see the men that they've dated, actually.

01:30:45.960 We need to see, because the men that they've actually dated will reveal their actual attractiveness

01:30:52.260 level. Okay. Gotcha. We have one more. This is the WQ, the whatever question, which is,

01:31:02.280 Oh, boy. Specifically, how do ugly men know how to date within their league if every woman

01:31:08.900 who ever comes on the whatever podcast is a 10? This is the question of our time.

01:31:15.040 It is a conundrum. Well, they shouldn't date a woman from the whatever podcast.

01:31:22.500 Didn't you say you were a 10, by the way? No, I said I was a 9.

01:31:25.660 Oh, I'm sorry. If all of them on the whatever podcast are 8s, 9s, and 10s.

01:31:34.880 Well, I'm dating a 10, so.

01:31:40.120 Isn't he, wait, isn't he like 20 years older than you are?

01:31:43.440 He is. And disabled?

01:31:45.700 So, he is not disabled, but he is very attractive, and he actually doesn't look old. He actually

01:31:51.980 looks a little bit younger than you, to be fair. But, I mean, to me, he is a 10. I was

01:31:59.320 attracted to him from the very first, you know, time I saw him. And, I mean, he's dated

01:32:05.400 a lot of celebrities in the past, and it's just, I don't know, to me, he's a 10.

01:32:11.740 Can I say a comment? Sorry.

01:32:13.380 Yeah, yeah, to you. Hang on, hang on.

01:32:14.800 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:32:15.400 To you, hang on. To you, he's a 10. I think that's fair. I think it's fair to say, to

01:32:21.100 me, a person's a 10. To me, a person's not a 10. That's totally fair, right? But objectively,

01:32:27.500 when you look at, like, the universal style of standards that most people go for, when

01:32:31.840 you're kind of creating what is or is not good looking, right? And we all kind of pretend

01:32:37.320 that that doesn't exist. But, I mean, it fucking exists, right? We know it exists. So, where

01:32:42.200 would he fall on that scale? He would fall around nine. On the objective, you know, what

01:32:51.800 is society, you know, considers to be absolutely drop-dead gorgeous.

01:32:58.500 Okay. You add something?

01:33:02.560 I just wanted to say, I think there's another way to look at it as well, because I think

01:33:06.440 you're going based off looks. But I think for me, anyways, in my past relationships and

01:33:10.920 anyone that I'm trying to pursue, it's all about, like, the connection. Like, I think

01:33:15.080 the whole stigma of trying to find someone in your, like, your, basically your rating,

01:33:21.580 like, the whole, the leagues thing, like, 10s stay with 10s and then 5s stay with 5s

01:33:26.200 or whatever. I don't really look at people, like, I don't look at someone and think, oh

01:33:29.560 my God, like, he's so attractive, definitely. Like, I need to get with him. It's more like,

01:33:33.640 can I have a conversation with him? Can I actually sit down and, like, pick his brain,

01:33:37.520 really understand what I'm saying? Because if I ask him a question, girl, I'm

01:33:40.800 sorry, if I ask him a question, if the sky's blue and he's like, oh, yeah, oh, look, I'm

01:33:46.500 just, like. Like, make it make sense. Like, he could be, like, you know, to the world,

01:33:51.860 like Andrew said, like, the norm of being the most attractive man in the world. But if

01:33:56.840 I genuinely cannot conversate in an emotional connection way, then I'm, like.

01:34:02.240 Unattracted. Like, to me, that's, like, I genuinely cannot be with someone. Like, if there's

01:34:06.280 a man that you guys deem to be of not as attractive as another man, but I can genuinely

01:34:11.980 sit with him and chat with him and have a genuine conversation that's, like, deep and meaningful.

01:34:18.420 And, yeah. Like, I can't put them to ranking or, like, I don't believe that I'm, like,

01:34:23.280 I believe some men should and can, I guess, shoot for the stars. But, like, I don't mean

01:34:28.560 it in the sense of it's just looks-wise. Like, their personality needs to come from a good

01:34:32.360 home, good heart. Like, and I'm not a 10. I think I'm a solid 5. Like, I don't think

01:34:36.560 I'm that bad, but I don't think I'm anywhere close to fine as hell. But for me, anyways.

01:34:42.580 No, I completely agree. I think attractiveness, your personality and what you bring to the table

01:34:47.940 in the terms of can we talk at the table, that plays the biggest part. Because you can

01:34:52.480 be a drop-dead gorgeous guy or girl. Most of the time, if you're not stimulating mentally,

01:34:57.800 you're, if you have a bad personality, like, like, a male 10 by societal standards, if he's

01:35:04.380 a 10, but he has nothing going on in his head, just not nice, not very intelligent, automatically

01:35:11.840 it's, like, oh, what a bore, what a waste of physical potential when there's nothing going

01:35:16.140 on in your brain.

01:35:16.860 Yeah, it, like, it immediately goes down to, like, a 6, 5 kind of level.

01:35:23.120 Definitely.

01:35:23.480 Can I be honest about something from my personal view? There's been guys who've been, like,

01:35:28.140 super nerdy, because I'm also like that. I like to connect with them intellectually. And

01:35:31.980 I just knew from the get-go, like, it's not going to go anywhere because there is no physical

01:35:36.460 attraction from my standpoint. So I totally agree. It definitely subconsciously, it's one

01:35:41.760 of the things I look at, like, okay, we're getting along, but I'm also attracted to you.

01:35:45.760 Oh, no, looks are definitely important. I'm not saying looks are not important. Definitely

01:35:49.140 you're going to be attracted to them. But me personally, I get more attracted to someone.

01:35:54.400 Like, for example, my man could be a 3 out of 10, whatever. But I feel like the more

01:35:58.600 I'm with him, I'm going to find him a 10 out of 10. I'm going to find him, like, straight

01:36:02.780 10 out of 10. Like, I'm just going to have that bias thing. The more that I'm with him,

01:36:07.160 he will automatically become more attractive to me anyways.

01:36:10.040 Okay, well, let me ask you, have you ever dated what you think is a 3 out of 10?

01:36:15.460 Physically, looks-wise, has any of your exes actually been a 3 out of 10?

01:36:20.100 I don't think that's nice, but I think they're okay.

01:36:23.440 You think they're okay?

01:36:24.360 They're okay, yeah. They were really nice and, like, funny. Like, see, but, like, see,

01:36:28.240 like, my first ex was Egyptian and my second was Filipino. Like, I definitely don't have

01:36:31.860 a type, I guess, necessarily. Like, if you just have, like, a good heart and you're funny

01:36:36.800 or whatever automatically just become more attractive to me. Well, how long did that

01:36:40.740 take? How, like, was that a process?

01:36:46.160 I guess, but, like, the things that we were friends before we became anything.

01:36:49.440 Wait, wait, if I can just jump in here.

01:36:51.320 I'm sorry.

01:36:52.220 So, Q wasn't asking about your type. Whether they were Egyptian or Filipino is kind of irrelevant.

01:36:58.120 There are plenty of attractive Filipino and Egyptian men. So, he's asking if they were,

01:37:02.500 if those men were, or any of the men you've dated, were 3 out of 10s in their looks.

01:37:08.600 I don't think so.

01:37:10.240 So, they were more attractive than that?

01:37:12.880 Possibly, yeah. But other people would say no, though. That's the thing. And I don't know

01:37:16.220 if it's a bias because they're my friend or if they're generally unattractive. Do you know

01:37:20.440 what I mean?

01:37:20.680 So, a 10 would say that he's unattractive, which is normal.

01:37:23.400 No, definitely not. A 10 would not say that they're attractive.

01:37:26.560 No, that they're unattractive. A 10 would obviously say, like, oh, yeah, he's unattractive

01:37:30.800 because she's a 10. So, she's not going to look at that guy and be interested in him at all.

01:37:35.940 Yeah.

01:37:36.540 So, you are not going to look at a guy, even as, you know, interesting as he is, he's still, like, ugly.

01:37:43.180 And I'm glad you said that because that's essentially what it boils down to. You have to be

01:37:47.160 physically attractive enough to get your foot in the door to where she even wants to know

01:37:51.160 what your mentality and your personality is. And that's actually my, I've actually done

01:37:56.180 several research studies on physical attractiveness versus personality with women ranking, you know,

01:38:02.480 personality versus physical attractiveness and everything. And all the studies reveal that

01:38:06.720 when it comes down to it, physical attractiveness is actually number one. You have to be physically

01:38:11.020 attractive enough for a woman to even want to know if you're intelligent enough, if you can hold

01:38:16.520 a conversation, if you're funny. Now, of course, women's attraction is contextual and it's more nuanced

01:38:21.180 than male attraction because men are more visually stimulated by a woman's physical appearance.

01:38:25.840 But, in essence, you still have to be physically attractive as a guy for her to even take that

01:38:33.120 interest in you and that's across domains in most cases. It's ubiquitous.

01:38:37.480 Yeah, but I'm not saying that he's ugly.

01:38:39.640 Ubiquitous is a pretty big word, Q.

01:38:43.640 It just came out. I started getting into my college days. It just came out.

01:38:47.700 No, like, I definitely get what you're saying and I agree with you. I'm not saying that

01:38:52.040 they're ugly and I would never say they're ugly. Like, obviously, attraction does play

01:38:56.140 a big role in it. But, like, for both relationships, we both started as friends. We're in the same

01:39:01.440 group. Like, it's, for me, attraction does take a big part in it. I can't look at someone

01:39:06.860 and say, oh, they are attractive. Definitely. I couldn't say, oh, like, I don't think this

01:39:10.560 person would suit with me. But, like, ultimately, genuinely bottom of my heart, like, if I have

01:39:15.560 someone who is genuinely kind and emotional and everything like that, I'm more drawn to

01:39:19.180 that. Okay. I'm more like, like, those both of them, I was, I used to work with one of

01:39:25.120 them. We're working together for, like, six months before anything happened. I'm not gonna

01:39:28.360 be, like, ew, you're ugly. I'm not gonna socialize with you. I'm a social butterfly. I want everyone

01:39:32.940 to be included. You know, I don't want anyone feeling left out. So, automatically, I would

01:39:36.800 talk to anyone, even if they're not a 10 out of 10. I would talk to every single person.

01:39:41.620 But also, you also self-aware, you call yourself a five. Do you think that plays a part in the

01:39:47.180 fact that you're more lenient with male looks because you don't think you're a 10? See,

01:39:51.000 if you thought you were a 10, you'd be looking at men a little different. You'd be like,

01:39:56.300 no, he's too ugly for me because I think I'm this attractive. But the fact that you know

01:40:00.180 that your average gives you the leeway and gives them room for error to not be as attractive

01:40:05.680 as they would initially need to be if you thought you were more attractive than what you think

01:40:09.740 you are. I get that. I get what you're saying. But I'm saying for me personally, anyways.

01:40:15.680 For me personally, but I get where you're coming from. So, like, why did you even bring an example

01:40:19.900 that, like, if it's a three, if you've never dated someone who you assume is a three or you think is

01:40:26.180 a three? The three? Yeah, because, like, that was the example that you brought up. Like, if there are

01:40:31.440 three... I'm saying if society views them as a three, like... Okay, but, like... I can't put a rank

01:40:35.680 on someone. Well, okay. That's fair. I mean, yeah. Like, I don't know why, but, like, me personally,

01:40:41.280 I can't call someone, like... I can say you're ill if you make my friends upset. I can be, like,

01:40:46.520 ill, babe. Like, ugh, come on. But, like, that's just coming from a friend. I know it's weird,

01:40:51.280 but, like, that's just, like... That's, like, a friend... Like, that's what I mean. I'm very, like,

01:40:54.720 friendly. I'm very, like, comforting. And, like, I would never want to say anything to rank

01:40:59.180 anyone. That's why I think I'm average. Like, I would never want to come from a place to put a man

01:41:03.720 to feel like... Because I think males are so, like, this ego thing because of this dominance,

01:41:11.400 because of the assertiveness, because of the way they kind of have to be. This is my opinion,

01:41:14.840 by the way. This is not saying that everyone agrees with me. But, um, I guess putting a man

01:41:19.280 in a position where he doesn't have to feel like he has to be a thousand times better than everyone

01:41:22.900 else. I don't know. I just want chill, dude. Whatever comes from it comes from it. Like,

01:41:28.040 that's why I just accept everyone for how they are. And that's just me. Maybe that's why I've been

01:41:33.160 single for so long. But, like, it's whatever. I don't... I'm not rushed to meet anyone who's

01:41:39.020 a 10 out of 10, I guess.

01:41:42.280 I feel like 10 out of 10s usually have a little, like, cockiness problems and little attitude

01:41:46.300 problems, too.

01:41:47.420 But can you swap to that?

01:41:48.360 A little?

01:41:49.120 Like, when they know they're fine?

01:41:50.540 Can you actually...

01:41:51.540 When they know they're fine?

01:41:52.920 We might as well ask this question since we're kind of on the topic. Ask everyone to

01:41:56.280 rate their looks on the... Oh, uh, Rabe Ruge says,

01:41:59.720 Brixen, just say no? Wait, what?

01:42:03.340 Oh, the no, no.

01:42:05.860 Oh.

01:42:06.460 Is that what you're saying?

01:42:07.840 Here, let's... We'll try it again. Uh, no.

01:42:12.380 No.

01:42:13.280 You're doing something when you say it and I'm watching you.

01:42:15.820 No.

01:42:16.040 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:42:18.860 Yeah, you have to open it.

01:42:19.360 There we go.

01:42:19.860 You gotta open her mouth, right?

01:42:21.060 No, no, no, no, no.

01:42:22.800 She's gotta open her mouth.

01:42:23.880 No, she's saying gnar, gnar, gnar, gnar still.

01:42:26.220 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:42:30.980 It's pretty close.

01:42:31.720 All right.

01:42:31.980 Getting there.

01:42:32.760 All right.

01:42:34.320 Yes.

01:42:34.960 All right.

01:42:35.320 Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.

01:42:37.560 You can't pick seven, starting with you.

01:42:39.140 Go ahead.

01:42:39.580 Um, six.

01:42:40.620 We should have asked this before we got into the rating stuff, but...

01:42:44.380 I'm like a strong four and a half.

01:42:46.480 Oh, my God.

01:42:47.060 I'm like a six and a half.

01:42:48.980 Six.

01:42:50.480 Six and a half.

01:42:51.900 Nine.

01:42:53.060 Five.

01:42:54.580 Cute.

01:42:54.940 Six point three.

01:42:56.660 I'll give myself a five, Andrew.

01:43:01.440 I'm a four for sure, or less.

01:43:04.900 All right.

01:43:05.480 I think you're beautiful, Andrew.

01:43:07.780 Yo, Craze, thanks for the gifted ten subs.

01:43:09.900 What's it?

01:43:10.460 It's like, I got the patronizing beautiful and everything.

01:43:13.900 It's like, that's like the head pat where they're like, no, no, no, no, no.

01:43:19.160 No.

01:43:19.860 Come on, no.

01:43:21.240 It's like, come on.

01:43:23.100 I think I'm beautiful.

01:43:23.820 Yeah, you can just make it a little bit less patronizing for me.

01:43:29.720 So, you're the, do you think you're the most attractive girl here since you rated yourself

01:43:34.120 the highest?

01:43:34.520 I think you're very, very gorgeous.

01:43:38.340 Thank you.

01:43:38.560 I would definitely rate you way higher.

01:43:40.740 Thank you.

01:43:42.020 And I'm not trying to compete just for my personal preference.

01:43:46.520 I would date someone who looks like me just off the looks alone.

01:43:52.280 Okay, all right.

01:44:01.180 Actually, Austin, let's do this.

01:44:02.700 Pull up the true rate me guide for women.

01:44:08.160 And I'm just curious if this would adjust your ranking at all for you.

01:44:15.380 All right.

01:44:16.180 So, God tier.

01:44:17.240 Ten is God tier.

01:44:18.080 Basically, no one meets the standard.

01:44:20.480 No examples because this level is unattainable.

01:44:24.760 Now, 9.5.

01:44:26.660 That's the top 0.002%.

01:44:28.840 One out of 50,000.

01:44:30.900 That's ultra attractive.

01:44:32.120 Super top model tier.

01:44:34.100 Now, you might shift.

01:44:35.860 This chart is bugged, boys.

01:44:37.380 It's a bit bugged.

01:44:38.400 Granted, look.

01:44:39.400 I would not rank some of these people where they're at.

01:44:42.680 I might shift some up.

01:44:43.880 I might shift some down.

01:44:45.040 This was not made by me.

01:44:46.700 Okay.

01:44:46.820 That whole top road, all those women, they're hideous.

01:44:50.920 What do you mean?

01:44:51.560 Well, not hideous.

01:44:52.900 Okay.

01:44:53.120 They're not hideous.

01:44:53.520 None of them are good looking.

01:44:54.460 Not one of them are good looking.

01:44:55.140 Wait.

01:44:55.740 Okay.

01:44:56.100 Good looking.

01:44:56.940 Wait.

01:44:57.040 Wait.

01:44:57.120 Wait.

01:44:57.260 Wait.

01:44:57.400 Kelly.

01:44:58.000 Andrew.

01:44:58.540 Kelly Gale.

01:44:59.400 Kelly Gale.

01:45:00.160 I give her eight.

01:45:01.700 Wait.

01:45:01.920 Pull it back up.

01:45:02.460 I give Kelly Gale maybe eight.

01:45:04.920 Adriana Lima?

01:45:06.200 No.

01:45:07.040 That's just an average looking broad.

01:45:09.340 All right.

01:45:10.580 Andrew.

01:45:12.340 He has very high standards.

01:45:15.240 We should have Andrew.

01:45:16.260 Andrew, why don't you make one of those?

01:45:17.440 I think you should just reverse some of the rows.

01:45:19.780 That's all.

01:45:20.340 Well, in any case, so I do, look, I agree with you there that you could move some of these

01:45:24.360 women up, move some of them down.

01:45:26.260 It's just sort of a general guide.

01:45:28.340 I didn't make it.

01:45:29.220 It's from this Reddit.

01:45:30.580 So nine is top 0.005%.

01:45:34.180 One out of 20,000 people will be a nine.

01:45:36.920 That's extremely attractive.

01:45:38.520 Top model tier.

01:45:41.640 I don't even think, though, like model women.

01:45:44.420 I don't think, like, their faces are, like, the supermodels.

01:45:50.120 A lot of them have, like, the unique.

01:45:51.940 They have got maybe a unique look.

01:45:53.640 It doesn't always translate to, like, anyways.

01:45:56.680 So, like, up at the top there, you should take that Frida chick, move her down, and then

01:46:01.740 move that Kelsey chick up.

01:46:03.620 Right?

01:46:04.540 All right.

01:46:05.020 For sure.

01:46:05.860 Mm-hmm.

01:46:06.900 Mm-hmm.

01:46:07.240 So, okay, 8.5, scroll down just a bit.

01:46:10.060 8.5, that's the top 0.03%.

01:46:12.380 That's one out of 3,008% or eight is top 0.134%.

01:46:17.720 That's one out of a 750 very attractive model tier.

01:46:24.140 They got to redo this fucking chart, man.

01:46:26.060 I don't know.

01:46:26.540 It's a little scuffed.

01:46:27.520 He's down at 7.5.

01:46:28.540 It's bugged.

01:46:29.340 This thing is bugged.

01:46:30.220 It's bugged, boys.

01:46:31.240 What is it based on?

01:46:32.240 I need to see what it's based on.

01:46:33.360 I don't know.

01:46:34.060 It's bugged.

01:46:34.920 Somebody just made up a chart.

01:46:35.940 It's bugged, boys.

01:46:36.100 Yeah, that's not changing my mind.

01:46:38.320 I'm sorry.

01:46:38.660 It doesn't change it.

01:46:39.140 All right, sorry.

01:46:39.480 I thought I'd show it.

01:46:41.120 Really quick, just to kind of wrap up the conversation on the whole, like, waiting to hook up thing,

01:46:45.600 there is one image, Austin, if you can pull that up.

01:46:49.220 This is kind of like...

01:46:51.340 That's like...

01:46:54.260 You know what I mean?

01:46:55.940 That's kind of like, okay, you're going to be...

01:46:58.340 Do you want to be that guy in the suit?

01:47:01.360 And here's the crazy thing.

01:47:02.860 A girl will be like, yo, I want to wait three months before hooking up with you.

01:47:08.300 And then as soon as you break up, the next boyfriend, he's not going to have to wait.

01:47:14.900 The next guy she fucks, boom.

01:47:17.720 Instant, son.

01:47:18.740 I'm just saying it's fucked up.

01:47:20.240 It's fucked up, boys.

01:47:21.740 I think, Brian...

01:47:22.920 What's up?

01:47:23.480 I think you're a little traumatized.

01:47:25.280 Yeah, I'm a personal...

01:47:27.460 You've...

01:47:28.060 Okay, bro, look, I don't know if you're just...

01:47:30.340 You're fucking bad in...

01:47:32.720 What's the fucking terminology?

01:47:34.680 What the fuck?

01:47:35.280 Hang on.

01:47:35.840 This is some Benedict Arnold shit going on right now.

01:47:38.240 Some Benedict Arnold shit going on, Brian.

01:47:40.500 Who's that?

01:47:41.780 Q's Benedict Arnold.

01:47:43.260 Is that the guy who turned on the U.S.?

01:47:46.560 Yeah, he turned on Washington.

01:47:48.280 On the...

01:47:49.220 He, like, went to the British.

01:47:52.480 He joined the Redcoats.

01:47:53.320 The British, yeah.

01:47:54.020 I got a tendency to psychoanalyze, so I'm wondering why Brian is so hyper-fixated on...

01:47:59.400 It's Judas-like behavior is what I see.

01:48:02.360 Judas-like behavior.

01:48:03.440 So you're telling me, Q, you've never encountered a girl who's like, every single girl...

01:48:09.800 Isn't your body count?

01:48:10.700 Well, I don't want to...

01:48:11.340 Okay.

01:48:11.620 I'm not going to reveal anything.

01:48:12.520 You're...

01:48:13.420 Every single girl you've dated, you fucked all of them right away.

01:48:20.060 Yeah.

01:48:20.580 First or second.

01:48:21.540 Every single one.

01:48:22.500 There's never been a girl who was like, oh, I'm...

01:48:26.060 I could probably tell you why she's like that.

01:48:28.960 Why who?

01:48:29.780 Why the girl is making you wait.

01:48:31.780 I feel like it's probably because every other guy before that has probably not taken her

01:48:39.980 seriously, even when they did sleep with her, so she probably just got exhausted about

01:48:44.140 it.

01:48:44.500 Sure.

01:48:44.920 And she's probably just trying to break the cycle.

01:48:48.340 And it probably has nothing to do with you.

01:48:50.280 Probably just the fact that every guy before that...

01:48:51.740 I told you that.

01:48:52.680 I completely agree.

01:48:53.780 I told you that.

01:48:54.640 That makes Brian's point.

01:48:55.520 That makes Brian's point.

01:48:56.560 That's...

01:48:56.980 That's faking virtue.

01:49:00.020 Is it?

01:49:00.360 Is it faking virtue?

01:49:01.440 But that's what I said earlier.

01:49:02.120 I don't think she's wrong.

01:49:03.040 I don't think she's wrong.

01:49:04.020 I think she's trying to protect herself.

01:49:05.360 No, I said you perfect...

01:49:06.780 You are well within your right to say, nah, fuck that.

01:49:09.340 I don't...

01:49:09.640 I'm not waiting.

01:49:10.640 Yeah.

01:49:10.880 But I said they be going on these little self-healing journeys and they're tired of...

01:49:15.080 No, I don't think it's self-healing.

01:49:16.220 I think it's just trying to protect herself from another asshole.

01:49:19.660 It's a lot of self-healing journeys, dude.

01:49:21.060 Yeah.

01:49:21.500 Yeah.

01:49:22.360 It's a self-healing journey.

01:49:23.760 Yeah.

01:49:23.980 So it's her hang on.

01:49:24.880 So that would be faking virtue.

01:49:27.020 Yeah.

01:49:27.360 So that moves right into this idea.

01:49:29.820 So the idea here is just, hey, I'm not going to do this because I think it'll give me a

01:49:35.400 different outcome, not because I'm going to do this for some type of higher reason or

01:49:42.800 because I don't want to sleep with this guy.

01:49:44.660 It's just like, I'm going to try something different because it'll give me a different

01:49:47.240 outcome.

01:49:47.860 So now I'm not going to sleep with that.

01:49:49.260 That, I think, is faking virtue.

01:49:50.900 I think that's what that is.

01:49:52.100 How is it faking, though, if that's how she feels?

01:49:56.000 I think virtue is like a, that's kind of a loaded word.

01:50:00.300 And like, it's, I think there's a little bit of confusion in a way.

01:50:05.420 Like, I think a woman could see a cycle in her past of, okay, I keep sleeping with these

01:50:09.840 men and I'm not getting the outcome that I want.

01:50:12.260 So here comes along this guy.

01:50:13.940 Let me switch up my pattern because I want a different outcome, not because all of a sudden

01:50:18.820 homegirl picked up a Bible and decides she wants to be the next Mary.

01:50:21.920 Yeah, but we would agree, right?

01:50:25.320 And so I agree.

01:50:26.480 So let me kind of give you an olive branch.

01:50:28.620 I agree that virtue can be a very loaded word.

01:50:31.400 I don't think, though, that you and I are speaking past each other when we use the word.

01:50:34.760 I think we would probably use it kind of the same way.

01:50:37.500 Maybe I'm wrong, but I think we would.

01:50:39.840 In this case, though, with Brian, this is actually making his point either way.

01:50:46.020 So if you say she's just doing this because she's working on herself for a different outcome,

01:50:50.240 he's like, well, what the fuck?

01:50:51.440 I'm the guy who gets screwed over here, right?

01:50:53.920 I'm the guy who gets left behind?

01:50:56.280 So that would make his point.

01:50:57.760 Or the alternative to this is I'm doing this because I want you to think differently of me,

01:51:04.060 even though I want to do this.

01:51:06.280 And that would be faking virtue.

01:51:07.860 So like I said, it's like a double-edged sword, this question.

01:51:12.140 That's why I don't have a great answer for it.

01:51:14.140 Well, I don't think anyone's disagreeing with Brian's view, right?

01:51:21.060 Yeah.

01:51:21.580 I'd be so annoyed if I were a guy and she wasn't putting out.

01:51:24.360 Yeah, right.

01:51:25.420 But it's like at the same time, so for you, the faking part would be just because she wants to do it,

01:51:34.180 but she doesn't because of her own personal reasons.

01:51:38.000 Is that correct?

01:51:38.740 What about self-control?

01:51:39.400 No, no, no.

01:51:40.280 That wouldn't be the faking virtue scenario.

01:51:44.260 Yeah, okay.

01:51:44.720 That would be that Brian just feels like he's getting fucked over because why me?

01:51:48.600 Right.

01:51:49.360 Why do I happen to be the guy you start this with?

01:51:52.020 Right.

01:51:52.300 So that wouldn't be the faking virtue part.

01:51:54.080 Okay.

01:51:54.480 The faking virtue part would be if you were like, okay, I have changed my moral system,

01:52:00.400 and that's why I'm not doing this, right, with you.

01:52:03.960 And they're only really faking the moral system part because they want the guy to think differently of them.

01:52:12.180 So that's the double-edged question here.

01:52:15.080 So they're only changing their views for that one person but not for everybody else.

01:52:21.160 Is that what you're saying?

01:52:22.240 Well, no.

01:52:22.680 They're just basing it on how they're perceived.

01:52:25.440 So I'm changing this behavior because this guy or these groups of guys or whatever will perceive me differently.

01:52:32.000 That would be the faking virtue.

01:52:33.140 Yeah, so it's like it's not a genuine.

01:52:35.480 The other end of it, from the secular end of it, let's say, the idea would just be, well, that's fucked up.

01:52:41.380 How come I get the short end of the stick and John over there, right, he got the all-you-could-eat buffet night one.

01:52:48.140 Why do I have to get the crumbs from Longshank's table, right, when I want the whole country, right?

01:52:54.320 That's the – that's like – that would be the basic kind of objection here, right?

01:52:59.740 And let me just respond to Brian because Brian, Brian, Brian, my homie.

01:53:04.240 But I'm just – I was just curious.

01:53:05.800 That's a very smooth transition from the Benedict Arnold I saw just mere minutes ago.

01:53:12.060 It was an honest inquiry.

01:53:13.780 It was an honest inquiry, Andrew.

01:53:15.880 But I'm just saying, you asked, like, surely I've dated women who've probably done that.

01:53:21.480 All the women that I've taken serious, like the last three women that I dated had a combined body count of three.

01:53:26.980 My last two girlfriends were virgins.

01:53:28.500 So, I like the innocent type of women.

01:53:31.480 My body count didn't come from me pursuing women.

01:53:34.280 Women have thrown themselves at me.

01:53:36.220 Remember, I made the shade room.

01:53:37.940 I was one of the zaddies.

01:53:39.240 I had over 5,000 women in my DM.

01:53:41.300 Women like, oh, my God, da-da-da-da-da.

01:53:43.140 I'm not the guy to always say no.

01:53:45.720 You know, I take them up on the offer sometimes.

01:53:47.620 They've driven themselves out.

01:53:48.960 They've flown themselves out.

01:53:50.440 I didn't pay for anything.

01:53:51.900 So, that's typically what it comes from.

01:53:53.100 But the women I approach, I typically, it's the innocent type, the wholesome type, the girl who's sitting in the corner reading a book.

01:54:00.640 She doesn't party.

01:54:01.620 She doesn't club.

01:54:02.720 I like those women.

01:54:04.720 Yeah, sure.

01:54:05.220 I mean, I agree with you in terms of my, you know, interest in women.

01:54:08.640 I prefer those kinds of women.

01:54:11.460 But, you know, I've also, like, and also I'm pretty open about this.

01:54:15.140 Have I encountered this in my own dating life?

01:54:18.120 Absolutely.

01:54:18.980 I've encountered women who, I don't know, I don't know how many times, bro.

01:54:27.180 Enough, bro, enough.

01:54:28.760 I mean, dude, it's just like, I mean, have you, maybe you haven't had that happen, but you've dated a girl where it's like, this is some bullshit.

01:54:35.460 Bro, you can go see me on the shade room.

01:54:37.120 You can literally go look me up on the shade room.

01:54:39.820 I'm still up there.

01:54:41.340 50,000 likes.

01:54:42.540 No, but what do you, but I mean, you've never, you've encountered some girl that's like, this is some fucking, like,

01:54:48.420 you're dealing with some bullshit scenario with a girl.

01:54:51.200 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:51.900 And so I've, I've encountered it, I don't know, a handful of times, right?

01:54:56.400 Mm-hmm.

01:54:57.860 And, I mean, you said, well, these girls will fly out.

01:55:00.540 I've had that too, right?

01:55:01.780 Mm-hmm.

01:55:02.000 But I remember when I was on the dating apps, and I might encounter this, or I remember, even a girl who, I had a girl, she, she drove, slid into my DMs, came here.

01:55:17.600 Mm-hmm.

01:55:17.900 And she told me, oh, yeah, you know, I've had hookups, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

01:55:27.380 So did they do that and still try to make you wait?

01:55:29.980 Is that what you're saying?

01:55:30.880 Like, she, like.

01:55:31.900 Yeah, this girl who drove two hours to come and see me slid into my DMs, wasn't religious, didn't seem to have any, there was no religious component there.

01:55:41.320 She was like, well, um, she's, she admitted to having had several one-night stands.

01:55:49.540 Mm-hmm.

01:55:50.020 And then she said, well, now that I'm a bit older, I want to wait until I'm in love.

01:55:55.460 I'm like, bro.

01:55:57.440 Okay, yeah.

01:55:58.060 I ain't waiting.

01:55:58.820 No, I get that.

01:55:59.000 How long is it going to take for you to fucking fall at, like, six months?

01:56:02.260 Yeah.

01:56:02.500 I'm not waiting six months, bro.

01:56:05.940 No, I get that.

01:56:06.880 What the fuck?

01:56:07.340 I get that.

01:56:07.720 So, so you don't think that, like, the whole aspect of being older and just being more mature and kind of figuring out what they want plays any component to it?

01:56:17.420 What do you mean?

01:56:18.340 More mature?

01:56:19.320 Well, you said, like, she's older, so it's like, you know, I just, more mature, like, in, in a way that, um, now there's this, a different kind of, um, like.

01:56:31.940 Well, this is the big, this is one of the big criticisms is.

01:56:34.720 Is, so a lot of guys, when, not all men, some guys are fine when they're in their younger years.

01:56:40.680 A lot of guys will struggle with dating in their late teens, 20s, up to mid-20s, late 20s even.

01:56:47.840 And they'll get curved by these women when they're younger.

01:56:50.840 While these women are chasing around, like, the really hot dudes, whatever, fucking them, in their 20s.

01:56:57.160 And then, then these women will be like, okay, I want to settle down with a nice guy provider, dude.

01:57:03.660 And so, what ends up happening is, like, a lot of guys will see that and be like, hold on, so you spent your 20s, arguably, your best years, when you're most attractive, when you have the least baggage, the least trauma, the most feminine.

01:57:20.520 You spent all that time having casual sex, now you're 30, clock is ticking, you see me as a retirement plan.

01:57:30.780 Fucking retirement plan.

01:57:32.800 You see me as the nice guy, safe guy, you got me fucked up.

01:57:36.760 Back to the streets you go.

01:57:38.620 That goes both ways.

01:57:40.040 How does it go both ways?

01:57:41.260 Because men also be going all around town.

01:57:44.080 Well, here's the difference, though, is that every single woman has access to hookup culture.

01:57:49.780 Not all of them engage in the hookup culture, but far more women engage in hookup culture than do men.

01:57:55.920 So, what you end up happening is you have these hyper-attractive men that'll fuck, like, 200 women, and then you'll have, like, a large portion of women who'll have, like, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 body counts, perhaps not quite as high as these men who are just basically taking the lion's share of the women.

01:58:14.080 And this is throughout high school, college, et cetera.

01:58:18.540 And so, far more women will have access to this hookup culture.

01:58:24.480 So, if 50% of women are engaging in hookup culture with 10% of the men, who's to blame, really?

01:58:32.300 Both?

01:58:33.120 Wouldn't be?

01:58:33.660 Right, but there's more.

01:58:35.020 Hold on.

01:58:35.400 Yes.

01:58:35.940 But there's more women to be blamed.

01:58:39.780 Does that make sense?

01:58:40.900 Well, what if the woman's just looking for a relationship, though?

01:58:42.820 And all these guys are just, like, not taking her serious right now in her 20s.

01:58:46.360 So, she just has to keep going guy after guy because nobody's going to take her seriously.

01:58:50.780 Well, let me ask you a question.

01:58:51.380 Because guys aren't interested.

01:58:52.580 Wait, wait, wait.

01:58:53.160 Hold on.

01:58:53.440 Because she's picking men, one, all you women, you pick the men that you're with, one.

01:58:59.780 And then, secondly, you tend to have very terrible appraisals of, one, we already talked about this rating thing, although we should have asked it before.

01:59:06.840 Anyway, a lot of women have really terrible appraisals of their own attractiveness and then the men that they can get in a relationship.

01:59:14.220 So, there's this differential whereby a guy will sleep with a girl who he would never consider being in a relationship with just based off of her looks.

01:59:25.580 So, she could be, like, unattractive, but he'll still sleep with her.

01:59:29.280 He'll keep her around for casual sex.

01:59:31.260 Women typically don't do that.

01:59:33.180 And so, what ends up happening is you women have sexual access to men who are above what you can reasonably expect to lock down for long-term commitment.

01:59:45.300 So, you women can sleep outside of your league, whether that's status, whether that's money, whether that's looks, right?

01:59:53.700 A 19-year-old woman who's just hot and attractive, who has 1,000 followers on Instagram, she can go fuck an NBA player, an NFL player.

02:00:01.000 These are very high-status men who make good money, who are typically very attractive.

02:00:07.680 And so, what ends up happening there is, whereas you think an average-looking 19-year-old guy can fuck out of his league?

02:00:20.300 No, he can't.

02:00:22.840 So, there's this sort of differential that's happening.

02:00:26.180 So, like I said, essentially, you have 10% of men who are just crushing it, crushing it.

02:00:34.320 The rest of the men get scraps or get nothing.

02:00:36.760 And then you've got, like, 50% of the women who are engaging in this sort of hook-up culture.

02:00:41.260 I feel like those 10% of men, yeah, they might not be able to, like, hook up with just anybody, but they have a really good chance at wifing a girl.

02:00:49.360 Because not all girls go for guys that, like, look better than them.

02:00:52.100 No, no, the 10% of men are the hyper-attractive men that, like, the vast majority of women, the vast majority, so the 90% of men?

02:01:01.380 Yeah.

02:01:02.120 You know how many ugly guys are with pretty girls?

02:01:05.080 Ah, but this goes back to women.

02:01:06.380 Not very, not many.

02:01:07.100 Yeah, not many.

02:01:07.940 This actually goes back to women, one, being terrible appraisal or making terrible appraisals of their own physical attractiveness and making terrible appraisal of what they think their equivalent is in terms of a partner.

02:01:20.920 And this can be looks.

02:01:21.820 It could be other things.

02:01:22.680 But if you look at, there's this really great, Austin, if you can pull it up, this, one of the dating sites called OkCupid.

02:01:32.160 It's in the Dropbox pod, hold on, Dropbox podcast infographics folder.

02:01:39.400 Let me see where it is.

02:01:41.020 It's called the OKC.

02:01:43.420 OKC.

02:01:45.040 And so, if you can pull that up quick.

02:01:50.820 What was that?

02:01:51.940 That was me.

02:01:52.680 It was you.

02:01:54.240 Oh, it was you, I think.

02:01:56.020 What?

02:01:56.540 No.

02:01:57.640 No.

02:01:58.100 I didn't.

02:01:59.600 Infographics?

02:02:00.540 Do you have it?

02:02:01.540 No.

02:02:01.960 OK.

02:02:03.440 So, essentially, what this graph is going to show is that men tend to rate women pretty reasonably, bell curve, whereas women are very, very harsh judges of male attractiveness.

02:02:19.900 Do you have it?

02:02:21.200 Yeah, the majority of you, yeah.

02:02:22.500 OK, so, hold on.

02:02:23.840 I'll say it again.

02:02:24.720 So, just Dropbox folder, podcast folder, infographics folder.

02:02:32.060 Get it out of skew to the left, I think.

02:02:35.500 And what's the follow?

02:02:36.260 OKC?

02:02:37.260 OKC?

02:02:38.700 I just have a quick question.

02:02:40.720 Yeah.

02:02:40.800 Like, does the way that the men actually present themselves and, like, their assertiveness, just because, like, with your case, for example, like, they didn't go, you know, they didn't, like, try.

02:02:53.580 Why they were more introverted.

02:02:54.780 Does that play any role in their attractiveness and why they're not getting the women?

02:02:59.860 That's the strongest predictor.

02:03:00.700 Wait, what do you, hold on.

02:03:01.060 Sorry, sorry.

02:03:01.520 What do you.

02:03:01.700 I'm trying to pull it up.

02:03:02.520 It's not.

02:03:03.220 Can you drag it?

02:03:04.380 Yeah.

02:03:05.740 That's what you should do.

02:03:06.620 You should drag it.

02:03:07.320 OK, go ahead.

02:03:08.320 Go ahead.

02:03:09.080 Yeah, she, no, she asked, she said, does extroversion play a role?

02:03:12.180 A man actually approaching a woman and being assertive, and that is the number one predictor of the ability, a man's ability to get women.

02:03:18.800 You have to approach women.

02:03:20.080 Most men, the men that don't get women, they don't even approach women.

02:03:23.140 That's what I said earlier.

02:03:23.980 I said a lot of guys are scared to even approach women.

02:03:26.820 So, yeah, the more women you approach, the more women you're probably going to get.

02:03:31.460 Yeah, of course.

02:03:32.460 OK, that's what I thought.

02:03:34.100 But most men also don't want to play Russian roulette with their self-esteem, too.

02:03:38.900 That's true.

02:03:39.320 Like, most men do not have the corresponding conversational skills or charisma.

02:03:50.720 So you don't think that's on men that that's the reason why they're not getting women?

02:03:55.480 Well, hold on.

02:03:55.500 Women don't have it either.

02:03:59.160 Women don't have what?

02:04:00.940 Most women.

02:04:02.260 Well, here, it's not a fair comparison because.

02:04:05.720 We go off their looks.

02:04:06.680 Like, no, but if a girl approaches a man, their level of success is just automatically going to be orders of magnitude greater than a man to begin with.

02:04:17.300 So and also men are typically not going to be like most men don't get approached.

02:04:22.060 So if a woman does approach a man, even if she's unattractive, he'll take it.

02:04:25.880 He'll he'll be very polite about it.

02:04:28.200 Whereas most women are typically going to like if they're not attracted to a guy, immediate like creep fear response.

02:04:35.800 And like it's going to it's going not only is it going to like if there's other people around like that's not a good thing.

02:04:44.240 Let's pull it up. But don't you think that women, Brian, if they want to be approached, tend to put themselves in a situation with a guy where they will be.

02:04:53.480 So, yeah, like I agree that most of the time women won't approach men for a date.

02:04:58.220 But my kind of disagreement on this comes up when when I look at dating dynamics, women, if they want a guy and a guy's not approaching them, they seem to present themselves in such a way where they make it very well known that they would like him to.

02:05:13.060 Yeah. Yeah. Well, what is what is the context in which they are doing this?

02:05:19.980 So it could be things like they just talk to him a lot more in a social setting than the other guys.

02:05:26.020 They're a bit more flirtatious, things like this.

02:05:28.620 They're not they're not just like coldly walking over and approaching and saying, hey, hot guy, you want to go out to the right?

02:05:36.220 They don't do that. But it does seem like they put themselves in situations where they're around this particular individual much more for a kind of signal to him that I want you to ask for more.

02:05:47.900 For example, the last girl, the member of the girl that I was I was involved with all basically last year when I came on the show and I was like she I was talking to her the way that we started was when I was working at our university rec center as a student.

02:06:02.600 She would run the track every day. And one day she ran by me and I turned around and looked at her.

02:06:07.140 And when she looked at me, she gave me a little eye roll and smirk like, yes, like that.

02:06:11.700 And I said and I and I said, you know, come here like that.

02:06:14.520 And she got up and came to me. We started having a conversation and then one thing led to another and we just started dating.

02:06:21.000 But had she never did that, I would have never known that she was interested.

02:06:24.240 I knew she was interested.

02:06:25.420 Well, they tell her, I mean, at least when when I was younger, like they tell their friends, right?

02:06:29.840 And their friends, it would somehow get back to you in the grapevine and shit like like there's way they have ways of letting you know that they're interested without ever telling you they're interested.

02:06:38.320 But I mean, so I think this would fall back to women's hypergamous nature.

02:06:44.280 So they're going to do this for the top 10, maybe top 20 percent of men that leaves 80 percent of men never receiving that sort of even covert sort of subtextual initiative, token initiative that women will display.

02:07:03.140 So, I mean, but then are they showing the interest in that case at all?

02:07:11.120 Those those 80 percent of men, are they showing that they're interested in any way?

02:07:16.760 Yeah. And they're getting rejected.

02:07:18.540 OK, fair.

02:07:19.280 Let's pull up the chart, please.

02:07:21.240 All right. So this is how men rate women on OKCupid.

02:07:24.220 You see, that's a pretty reasonable distribution from least attractive on the left, most attractive on the right.

02:07:29.500 And then how women rate men.

02:07:32.740 So women are very harsh judges of male attractiveness, which I think kind of goes to women being poor assessors of where they stand in the dating marketplace, which is typically why they end up chasing fuckboys who they don't get commitment from.

02:07:54.400 So what do we do about that?

02:07:55.820 What do you mean?

02:07:56.560 How do we fix that?

02:07:57.760 Stop giving up the pussy.

02:07:59.500 Well, I mean, you're kind of fucked because you've already you've already poisoned the well to some degree, because once, for example, if you were rich and then you became poor and then your living conditions decreased substantially, do you think that would be hard to cope with?

02:08:28.440 Like you lived in a really nice house and now you're living, you have a house, you've got a roommate and you're living in the slums.

02:08:36.480 Would that be hard to cope with?

02:08:39.360 I think it depends how mentally strong you are.

02:08:41.060 Well, so what ends up happening is because women end up having sexual access to men outside of their league, this will happen by, okay, you hook up with a professional athlete and you're a 19 year old nobody college girl.

02:08:52.660 You're going to start comparing the average 19 year old college boys who are within your league who you probably should be dating.

02:09:04.020 Um, you're going to be like, well, I've had access to this guy.

02:09:09.440 He's this attractive.

02:09:10.400 He's got this much money.

02:09:12.020 He's got his own place.

02:09:13.360 He doesn't have, he's not living in a dorm room with three other dudes and we got to put a sock on the door.

02:09:18.260 No, he's got his own place.

02:09:20.600 Fantastic place.

02:09:21.600 He's super attractive.

02:09:22.680 He's super fit.

02:09:23.400 He's got money.

02:09:24.000 He pays for dates, all this stuff.

02:09:26.400 Then you're going to go back to the guy who would actually give you long-term commitment and a relationship.

02:09:32.220 And you're going to be like, damn, damn the fuck.

02:09:37.920 So you're going to have resentment for the guy who's actually in your league.

02:09:40.780 So you guys are kind of fucked.

02:09:42.280 I mean, personally, I've never gone like outside of my league.

02:09:45.680 Like I've never done.

02:09:47.160 You'd think that, but.

02:09:48.320 Well, what I'm saying is like athletes and all that.

02:09:50.960 So I know like, obviously that isn't, I know.

02:09:54.140 Well, I'm using, I'm not saying all women have dated professional athletes.

02:09:57.700 I'm using it sort of as an example to articulate the point.

02:10:00.840 They might not necessarily have status, but they could be exceptional in one way or another, whether it's their looks or their personality.

02:10:07.820 And then you look at all the other men.

02:10:09.900 Maybe you, maybe it was a guy who was really good in bed.

02:10:12.920 And then all the other men after that are going to, you're going to be thinking about the guy who would really had you wired and figured out.

02:10:19.900 Or you were able to hook up with a really attractive guy.

02:10:22.340 All the guys who come after don't live up to how attractive he was.

02:10:26.440 Whether that's his personality, his looks, how good he was in bed, whatever.

02:10:29.860 But like don't men do the same though?

02:10:32.600 Like when they date a like super hot chick or like someone they truly love, like, you know.

02:10:38.120 No, because here's the thing, right?

02:10:40.100 So while some men maybe rarely get lucky, again, as if you're an average guy, if you step to a really hot girl and you make yourself sexually available to her.

02:10:54.460 However, if you step outside of your league and you step to a girl who's one, two, three, four points more attractive than you and you're like, hi, I really like you.

02:11:05.020 I would like to have sex with you.

02:11:08.440 As men, we get rejected on the front end.

02:11:11.400 We get rejected immediately.

02:11:12.940 However, as a woman, if you step to a guy who's more attractive than you, whether you know it or not, and you make yourself sexually available to him, you don't get an instant rejection.

02:11:24.400 You get, I will gladly have sex with you.

02:11:27.060 I will never, but you, whether he tells you this or not, you will never get commitment from him.

02:11:31.520 You might have sex with him once, you might have sex with him multiple times, he might even keep you, he might even string you along for weeks or months or longer.

02:11:41.140 And he's using you for sex.

02:11:43.680 But just on the basis of your looks alone, he's disqualified you from a long-term relationship with him, but he enjoys the easy access to sex.

02:11:52.340 And so, no, it's totally different.

02:11:55.200 Because as a woman, if you're unattractive, if you're pleasant and you make yourself sexually available to a guy who's more attractive than you, he'll take you up on it.

02:12:04.680 But you'll never get the ring, you'll never get the relationship.

02:12:07.240 Weren't you just saying, though, that you don't like when girls don't put out on the first, second, or third date, though?

02:12:13.540 I'm not sure how that has, what that has to do with anything.

02:12:17.100 Well, in the position, kind of the caveat here, he's not saying whether or not he likes it if a woman puts out on the first, second, or third date.

02:12:25.380 But rather that if a woman puts out on the first, second, or third date with other men and then says, you must wait, that's where he has the problem.

02:12:34.680 I see.

02:12:35.320 Okay, so I don't disagree with you at all.

02:12:38.620 I actually do agree with your position.

02:12:41.400 But it's like, for example, I've heard on TikTok from a lot of women that they say that once a man who's average, let's say, and he gets a girl who is above him, and during that relationship, his view of himself raises.

02:13:02.240 So they often end up cheating.

02:13:04.660 And they kind of, because they think that, oh, I can get this girl who is way hotter than me.

02:13:10.720 So that means I can get others.

02:13:13.120 So I've heard that view.

02:13:14.600 Is this like the Billie Eilish quote?

02:13:16.300 Like, you give an ugly man a chance and he thinks, I don't know what the fuck she does.

02:13:21.620 Is that what you're talking about?

02:13:23.240 Like, don't look like an ugly guy, because then, like, it goes to me.

02:13:25.440 Well, that's not what I'm saying.

02:13:28.320 But it's like how you pointed out that's like once a woman, like, gets to, you know, a man who is, like, above her, and then she kind of raises her standards.

02:13:41.300 So it's like she doesn't give other men a chance.

02:13:46.380 So I'm kind of, like, talking in that kind of similar scenario where a man gets with a hotter woman, and then they think of themselves as way more important because they can get it.

02:13:58.420 So there's two things.

02:14:00.060 One, he's probably bringing something else to the table, whether that, I mean, all the women here said, I think you were saying, well, if he can be really hot, but if he's not bringing stimulating conversation or intellectual, then whatever.

02:14:16.020 So men can attract women in more ways than just their looks.

02:14:19.700 They can make up for it either with status.

02:14:22.720 You know, you look at certain rappers or musicians.

02:14:24.600 These men are not always particularly attractive, but there's no shortage of women who are ready to date them or have sex with them.

02:14:33.320 So there's status, there's money, and then there's personality.

02:14:36.800 Some men have very endearing and charming or riz or whatever you want to call it personalities, and they can get women this way.

02:14:43.900 However, though, the second component here is that while I'll grant that there are ugly men that can get with more attractive women, this is absolutely dwarfed by the amount of women who are sleeping with men outside of their league.

02:15:03.860 So, sure, yes, there's ugly men who got a better-looking woman, but it's not as common, it's not nearly as common as the reverse.

02:15:17.420 Yeah, I'm not saying that it's common, I'm just, like, asking, like, how does that correlate, like, in your opinion?

02:15:22.240 Like, because, you know, that's fine, because you did answer my question, so, yeah.

02:15:28.820 Oh, okay.

02:15:29.220 I have a question for you, in a way.

02:15:31.600 Like, I think that's so subjective, too, because sometimes there are guys that are dating or seeing women that are substantially or just more attracted to them, and they're just grateful, in a way.

02:15:42.600 Just grateful, just very loving and adoring of their partner of, like, yeah, you know what, she is out of my league.

02:15:48.600 I'm not going to cheat.

02:15:49.680 I kind of, I'm kind of self-aware.

02:15:51.980 I'm a 5, and she's, like, a 10.

02:15:53.680 Yeah.

02:15:54.800 Why, why would I cheat?

02:15:56.360 So, I do think that there are definitely men that get women that are out of their league.

02:16:00.280 That's a real scientific finding.

02:16:01.300 Yeah, that get out of their league, and they're just like, I love you, I love you, and I'm not messing this up.

02:16:06.180 Yeah, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm, I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you in, in, in any way.

02:16:11.980 It's just about, like, the point of where, like, the women, once they get, like, a hot man, like, they kind of tend to go after him, like, for,

02:16:19.680 the, you know, they, they, they raise their standards after getting with them, which is what Brian mentioned, and I'm kind of, like, piggybacking on it, like, on where, you know, how, again, I've said, I've seen on TikTok, like, women talk about it, how their men, you know, like, did kind of a similar thing where they cheated on them because they thought that they could do better.

02:16:45.680 No, I agree, that's real.

02:16:46.420 After getting, so it's, like, that's, that's just the only, like.

02:16:50.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I definitely understand that.

02:16:53.200 Yeah, so I'm not, like, arguing.

02:16:54.880 Yeah, no, I was just.

02:16:55.720 I completely agree with, with the point, yeah.

02:16:59.040 Okay, here, let's do, can we go to Twitch really quick?

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02:17:49.600 We got a couple, we got a super here.

02:17:51.620 Q, you want to read this one?

02:17:52.700 Yeah, question to Q.

02:17:54.040 You said the last two girlfriends you had were virgins, non-party girls.

02:17:57.620 You slept with them.

02:17:58.260 I'm just curious why you didn't marry them.

02:18:00.140 Love the whatever podcast.

02:18:01.720 I didn't marry them because I didn't want to.

02:18:03.680 Relationship conflict.

02:18:04.880 Conflict is a part of every relationship, and you can choose to deal with it, or you can choose to leave.

02:18:08.920 And in time, when you learn in each other, conflict arises.

02:18:12.100 As a guy, I walk away.

02:18:13.660 I don't put up with certain things.

02:18:15.340 So, I left.

02:18:16.480 Do you want to get married?

02:18:18.320 I'm not even sure at this point.

02:18:20.380 See, but you took that away from her for the next time.

02:18:23.120 Took what away from her?

02:18:25.620 There we go.

02:18:26.240 Her virginity.

02:18:27.040 She gave it up.

02:18:28.800 Yeah, but like, she was probably expecting for you to be the one.

02:18:32.640 No, she wasn't.

02:18:33.400 That's her fault.

02:18:34.100 Taking and consensually giving.

02:18:36.540 I didn't take anything.

02:18:38.120 Yeah, but I didn't mean it like, yeah, I took this from you.

02:18:40.360 Wait, into the mic.

02:18:40.920 Into the mic.

02:18:41.460 I didn't mean like, yeah, like, I took this from me.

02:18:43.680 I mean like, she was probably waiting for somebody.

02:18:47.820 Was she not?

02:18:48.140 Wait, so are women owed marriage?

02:18:50.100 No.

02:18:50.640 Oh, okay.

02:18:51.040 I'm just saying that she probably was waiting for somebody special.

02:18:53.400 I'm always confused by this, though, if I can come to Q's defense a little bit.

02:18:56.920 It's like, if a guy breaks up with a woman, he's like a terrible monster, and he should

02:19:04.220 have stayed, like, she was owed something.

02:19:07.880 But like, if you, if men start feeling like they're owed or entitled to relationships or

02:19:15.100 sex with women, this is almost always like, very frowned upon.

02:19:20.540 Yeah, I mean, I mean, because I said I left because there was conflict, so obviously she

02:19:27.760 wasn't an angel.

02:19:29.960 She takes accountability in that, and if I'm being honest, she actually is engaged currently,

02:19:34.820 but I dated her back from 2013 to 2016, so now she's currently engaged.

02:19:39.500 When she got engaged, you know, she texted me and told me, thank you for teaching me how

02:19:43.840 to love.

02:19:44.400 Thank you for being a good representation.

02:19:46.620 Yeah, that's, that's the message I received from her.

02:19:48.420 Or, once she, she said, I'm engaged now.

02:19:50.320 I think it's definitely case-specific.

02:19:51.000 Yeah.

02:19:51.580 For sure.

02:19:52.080 So, just, just out of curiosity, like, did the age have something to do with it because

02:19:56.700 they were virgins, or was it, like, just their...

02:19:59.320 No, they just happened to be virgins.

02:20:00.540 Okay.

02:20:00.820 They just happened to be virgins.

02:20:01.800 I didn't date them because they were virgins.

02:20:03.540 Well, yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not saying, but it's like, were they, like, on the younger

02:20:07.320 side and just didn't have a lot of experience?

02:20:09.580 Yeah.

02:20:10.620 So, it's like, you were, like, kind of their first, like, person whom they actually trusted enough.

02:20:16.420 Yeah, well, my, well, my other ex, she was 22, and she was still a virgin.

02:20:20.160 Yeah, so, yeah.

02:20:21.020 That's pretty young, I'd say.

02:20:22.360 Yeah, yeah, so.

02:20:24.280 All right.

02:20:25.240 We have some, uh, chats, too.

02:20:27.300 Let me, oh, shit, let me get this pulled up.

02:20:30.720 One sec, guys.

02:20:32.180 Got some chat.

02:20:33.020 Yo, horse, thank you for the gifted 10 subs, man.

02:20:35.420 Really appreciate it.

02:20:36.160 Thank you so much, man.

02:20:36.900 Uh, we have, uh, can I have you read the, this chat?

02:20:40.720 Go ahead.

02:20:41.720 You want me to?

02:20:42.440 Yeah.

02:20:42.900 Okay.

02:20:44.280 Um, my body count is 500 plus.

02:20:46.740 He isn't taking her seriously.

02:20:49.100 I've had sex with a woman.

02:20:50.680 Within 30 minutes of talking to her, they aren't looking for relationships.

02:20:54.340 Stop the cap.

02:20:56.600 You fuck hoes.

02:20:58.760 Yeah.

02:20:59.600 You fuck hoes.

02:21:01.420 Like, like, your body count is 500 plus.

02:21:03.820 You clearly chasing a certain type of woman, my guy.

02:21:06.680 Hmm.

02:21:07.840 Well, Paladin, those are your thoughts.

02:21:09.460 Uh, we have three more.

02:21:11.620 Thank you, North Alberta Kid.

02:21:13.060 Thank you for the Canadian 100.

02:21:15.040 For me to read it?

02:21:15.720 Yeah.

02:21:16.680 Brian, we all know if the other 90% of men could do it, they would.

02:21:21.260 I'll tell you who's to blame.

02:21:23.180 Whores, players, there are many more whores through, objectively, the 90% come in here and bash women.

02:21:31.760 While I disagree with the word tours, I do feel like that's pretty, like, on, on point, just in general.

02:21:40.620 Hmm.

02:21:41.500 North Alberta Kid, uh, merci beaucoup for the, uh, Canadian 100, which is, like, what, $10 American?

02:21:48.440 I think.

02:21:49.280 Thank you.

02:21:50.440 Uh, Captain Awesome, thank you.

02:21:52.880 Just like the car, or just like the car, too, most women believe that they hold the same value as a woman.

02:22:00.320 With actual, what is that?

02:22:03.620 Chastity.

02:22:04.320 Chastity and fair, what is that?

02:22:06.740 Virtuous.

02:22:07.380 Virtuous car one.

02:22:09.440 Why would a man, oh, I did not read that fast enough, I'm sorry.

02:22:12.560 Would want a car two over one.

02:22:14.940 I'll pull it back up.

02:22:15.700 Just like car two, most women believe that they could hold the same value as a woman with an actual custody and virtuous car one.

02:22:25.380 Why would a man want car two over car one?

02:22:28.680 Okay, so I actually would like to answer that, um, just because there are some cars, you know, like, especially the more vintage cars, for example, they've been, you know, around, like, for a while, and they would sit in the garage, um, for, you know, a few years.

02:22:45.280 But it's like, um, they have not put the test of, of actually, like, that, that they're reliable, that they wouldn't break.

02:22:53.500 And there are a few cars, like, for example, there's a Jaguars, you know, like, a few Jaguars, like, where they're just not made to begin with reliable.

02:23:04.760 So, you would want a car with a few more miles on it, um, you know, just to make sure that it wouldn't just break apart, you know, like, 100, 200 miles in.

02:23:15.860 However, which is why it's completely weird to compare cars to women, because cars are made by, you know, all these different people, all these different components that are playing part to it, and women, you know, they're human beings.

02:23:31.080 He's clearly talking about women.

02:23:32.800 Well, yes, I know that he's clearly talking about women, which is why, like, I don't think that that's a comparison at all.

02:23:39.120 A good analogy.

02:23:39.960 Yeah, you don't think that's a good analogy?

02:23:41.560 Like, in, in, in any way, just because, again, cars are, you know, they're machines, and they're made, you know, there's, it's, they're very technical, and women, again, there's, it's a whole different aspect.

02:23:57.100 Like, you can't compare, like, an inanimate made object with, you know, a human being.

02:24:02.840 I think it's an interesting comparison.

02:24:04.520 I'm not going to say that I like it, but I think it's very interesting, because when it comes to relationships, like, as a woman or a man, I think, I think,

02:24:11.560 that as a woman going into a relationship, knowing who you are, and who you are as a romantic partner, whether that be sexually, your communication styles, I think knowing those things are so important when, when, when seeing how compatible you can be with someone.

02:24:27.160 But what does that have to do with the car?

02:24:29.780 It doesn't have anything to do with the car, but we know the, we know the comparison that the person in the chat is making.

02:24:35.460 Yeah, obvious, but it's like, so, like, I think, I don't see how that has, I think that's why, because a car doesn't know itself.

02:24:41.280 I think that's why someone would pick car two, or car, what the more, the car with the more mileage is, they know a bit about more themselves, and then when you go into a relationship, it's kind of hard, in my opinion, when it's someone's first relationship.

02:24:57.160 I agree.

02:24:57.760 They, they lack that experience of communication, being with someone intellectually, sometimes physically.

02:25:05.160 Yeah.

02:25:05.360 They don't know what they're doing, everything's new, and so, I feel like relationships, in a way, are trial and error, because it's very seldom that someone, two people get together, and it's their first relationship ever, and they're together forever.

02:25:16.940 When it does work like that, when there's high school seat arts, that's fabulous, I'm so happy for them.

02:25:20.640 But it's very rare.

02:25:22.060 But, yeah, it's very rare.

02:25:23.440 Yeah, I completely agree with that.

02:25:24.480 I think, I think, Alex, that you're looking at this in the wrong, kind of the wrong way, right, the wrong dynamic.

02:25:31.100 You're kind of taking it and viewing it through a feminine perspective, kind of over and over again, right?

02:25:36.880 Oh, you can't compare women to cars, you can't, okay, so, take yourself out of that for a second, and put yourself in the male's perspective.

02:25:43.640 So, from the male perspective, shit works or it don't work?

02:25:46.440 That's how we think of everything, right?

02:25:47.840 Does this shit work?

02:25:48.920 Yep, it works, great.

02:25:50.800 That's how we think of everything.

02:25:53.200 So, how we think of step two is, when is this thing that works not going to work, right?

02:25:58.720 So, this would go to the car analogy, right?

02:26:01.140 So, if it's got 200,000 miles, we know it's not going to work at, you know, 400,000 miles, right?

02:26:06.860 But we're taking the same mechanical brain and we're applying it to women, and we're like, okay, does this woman work if she has a lot more dick?

02:26:14.740 Or does she work if she has a lot less dick, right?

02:26:17.240 Does it work for us or does it not work for us?

02:26:19.980 Very simple, right?

02:26:21.020 It actually is a fine comparison because the idea is just, does it work, does it not work?

02:26:26.680 Is this going to work or is this not going to work?

02:26:28.460 So, I do agree with you that I am looking at it like from a more kind of, you know, as you said, the feminine perspective, that's like you can't compare a car to a woman.

02:26:38.660 However, to be fair, the actual car thing and whether or not it would work, I did get from a man and he would choose a car that has way more miles and that is proven to be reliable versus a car that has been sitting in the garage with zero miles.

02:26:56.820 Because you can buy a car, especially from the comments, where it says 100K, but it's like you wouldn't know if it would work.

02:27:07.240 You already messed it all up, Alex.

02:27:08.460 You already messed it all up.

02:27:09.700 Because you try to kind of sneak in, you kind of try to sneak in a new premise, which is he would take the car that has a proven track record of at X amount of miles still being reliable, right?

02:27:22.740 Okay, let's take that little sneaky part out of there and we're just comparing two random cars to a man and you tell the man, okay, you like both these cars, this one has 200,000 miles, this one has no miles, right?

02:27:36.620 His mechanical brain is going to say what?

02:27:38.380 It's going to say, okay, well, if this one has 200,000 miles on it, then I want the one that has less mileage because it's going to probably work for longer, right?

02:27:46.140 You can give him no other information than just that and that's likely what he's going to say, right?

02:27:50.580 Okay, so I do feel like perhaps, but then again, you're very generalizing because just like cars, relationships are very different and very person-specific because some people love brand new cars, but some people prefer vintage cars.

02:28:07.160 So it's like, it's, I don't know.

02:28:09.720 I understand what you're saying, but I don't see how it's comparison.

02:28:13.120 Do you think that men would prefer vintage cars with less miles or more miles?

02:28:15.680 More miles because, again, it proves reliability.

02:28:18.440 It would be, so the vintage car with less miles is going to be worth way more money and it's going to be way more reliable.

02:28:25.000 What are you talking about?

02:28:26.200 Because, okay, so if the vintage car has zero miles on it, it has not proven that it would work.

02:28:33.380 Then it's going to be worth a gazillion dollars?

02:28:35.500 And the actual parts, like, to replace it would be way more expensive than a car that has actually been proven that it is working, like all the parts are going together.

02:28:48.620 Why would the parts be more expensive to replace on a low-mileage vintage vehicle?

02:28:53.340 Okay, I did kind of misspoke a little bit.

02:29:01.660 It's more about, like, because it has not actually been driven out, it has not actually been tried, there is a chance that it would break, especially since it has not been, you know, like running for a few years, you know?

02:29:16.580 Like, it's just been sitting in the garage.

02:29:18.780 Yeah, there would be less, okay, but if it was a 300,000-mile vehicle and it was sitting in the garage for the same amount of time, it would have a worse chance of starting than the vehicle that had 50,000 miles on it.

02:29:31.140 Like, what do you mean?

02:29:32.120 This makes no sense.

02:29:33.740 So I actually agree, which is why I said, like, if it has, like, 1,000 miles, that would be a great indicator.

02:29:40.560 And, again, we're just talking about cars at this point, it's specifically the zero-miles vintage car that's been sitting in the garage versus a...

02:29:50.560 You mean the thing that every man who loved vintage cars would want more than anything else?

02:29:54.280 It would depend.

02:29:55.120 The car with zero miles on the original engine, hang on, on the original engine, the original body, the original everything, has zero miles.

02:30:03.860 That's the car they're going to take out knives and kill each other over rather than let somebody buy it out from under them.

02:30:09.520 And then they would put it back in the garage and not do anything with it because it's a vintage car.

02:30:16.880 However, the people who actually want to drive the car...

02:30:19.280 No, they're going to drive that shit.

02:30:20.380 What do you mean?

02:30:20.980 No, because it could break.

02:30:23.100 You know why they want the vintage car?

02:30:24.380 Because they have no idea how it's going to work.

02:30:26.800 No, they want the zero-mile vintage car because they want to be the first person to press on that fucking gas.

02:30:31.860 Yeah, and then it's going to break 20 miles in.

02:30:34.300 Boom, boom, boom, baby!

02:30:35.320 I was the first one in this vintage car to make it go room.

02:30:40.240 Yeah, and then it's going to break 20 miles in.

02:30:42.920 So it's like you don't know what a vintage car is going to do.

02:30:47.280 Why the fuck would it break 20 miles in?

02:30:48.800 Because a lot of vintage cars do that.

02:30:50.880 What are you talking about?

02:30:51.300 A lot of vintage cars do break very fast once they were sitting in the garage for 20, 30 years.

02:30:58.700 Vintage cars with higher miles on them, though, so I don't even understand what your argument is here.

02:31:03.520 So if they were sitting in the garage for a while, yes, all the cars would break.

02:31:09.060 I'm just going to say that.

02:31:10.000 I agree with you on there.

02:31:11.620 If the car were sitting in the garage, however, if the car was actually been driven throughout, you know,

02:31:19.260 those, you know, 20, 30, like 200,000 miles and it does not have any, you know, like track record

02:31:26.580 and was actually checked properly this entire time, you know, throughout all the years,

02:31:33.220 then it has the reliability, you know, like points to it because it has not broken

02:31:39.380 and it means it was put together very well and in a craftsmanship-like way.

02:31:46.940 However, there are some cars that were made in the past that just didn't, you know, have that point.

02:31:55.480 Are you smoking methamphetamine right now?

02:31:58.000 No.

02:31:58.760 Like, okay, this may, listen, this makes zero sense.

02:32:02.740 Okay, if you say so.

02:32:04.100 I'm going to reiterate back to what you just said.

02:32:06.520 Classic car has the same engine, same body, same everything as the other classic car.

02:32:11.420 There's no such thing as the same when it's put together by different people.

02:32:14.200 My turn, my turn, my turn, Alex.

02:32:15.000 Calm down, calm down.

02:32:16.060 Has the same everything as the other car except it has zero miles.

02:32:21.060 You're saying, your argument here is, well, the one with 300,000 miles has been proven to have driven.

02:32:27.900 Yeah, so what?

02:32:28.960 The likelihood of the one with zero miles being able to get a lot more life out of that car,

02:32:34.080 it's like 1,000% better, right?

02:32:36.800 It's like 1,000% better.

02:32:38.240 Everybody wants, everybody wants the classic car with zero miles because they want to be the first person to put the very first mile on the car.

02:32:46.840 Are you a car guy?

02:32:47.520 You know why they want to do that?

02:32:48.620 Hang on, my turn.

02:32:49.680 Wait a second.

02:32:50.620 You know why they want to do that?

02:32:52.080 They want to do it just for the hell of it.

02:32:54.060 They want to be like, I did it.

02:32:55.240 I was the first.

02:32:56.380 I put the first mile on this motherfucker.

02:32:58.400 Nobody else put a mile on this car except this guy.

02:33:02.420 They love that shit.

02:33:05.480 Jess Gerald donated $200.

02:33:08.480 Jesus.

02:33:09.680 We'd rather be inside a car that's never been driven over a car that's driven me 30 people.

02:33:15.100 Ergo, we'd rather be inside a woman who no one's been inside of than a woman who's had 30 men inside.

02:33:22.200 Okay.

02:33:23.100 Andrew, are you a car guy?

02:33:24.640 I'm never taking you to an auto auction.

02:33:26.100 I'm never taking you to an auto auction.

02:33:27.840 You'd be like, I want to pay a million dollars for that car over there that has 300,000 miles on it because, after all, it's proven that it drives down the road.

02:33:37.220 Like, what the fuck kind of logic is this?

02:33:39.600 Do you go to a lot of vintage car shows?

02:33:42.700 Okay, hold on.

02:33:43.880 I think we're, like, stippling away from, like, the concept.

02:33:45.940 I completely agree, which is why I don't think that it's...

02:33:49.660 It's my rant and I'll take it where I want to take it.

02:33:52.680 Okay.

02:33:53.340 Okay, which is why I disagree that a car analogy and a woman analogy is...

02:33:57.820 It does not actually fit because there's different aspects to it.

02:34:01.120 Do you know what an analogy is?

02:34:04.520 Well, if she has zero miles on her and...

02:34:08.020 Then y'all will just complain that she's a pillow princess because you don't even know what she's doing.

02:34:11.700 Oh, boy.

02:34:12.400 You do, though, Alex, agree that a man, like men in general, they do want women who have less baggage.

02:34:18.200 I completely agree with that.

02:34:20.000 And I kept thinking of Q and, like, you're the first one who put those miles on those girls.

02:34:23.920 You know what I mean?

02:34:24.640 And so I'm thinking, like, okay, what ended up happening, though, for that lady who you said she thanked you, I think we can all agree there are men out there who are going to accept that.

02:34:35.300 Like, you know what?

02:34:35.620 Absolutely.

02:34:35.940 Yeah, she has some miles.

02:34:36.600 But at the end of the day, the miles around there doesn't mean it's a good car.

02:34:39.820 Yeah, no, it doesn't mean it's a good car.

02:34:41.700 However, again, like, do you go to a lot of the vintage car shows?

02:34:46.440 No.

02:34:46.800 Do you, Andrew, go to a lot of the vintage car shows?

02:34:50.280 Not a lot, but I've been to a couple.

02:34:51.100 Okay, see, I have been to a lot of vintage car shows.

02:34:54.260 Hang on.

02:34:54.600 Does that have to do back to what I said?

02:34:57.600 Which is why I think it's a bad analogy.

02:34:58.640 I don't go to a lot, but I've been to them.

02:35:01.460 Yeah.

02:35:01.700 Yes, I've been to them.

02:35:02.700 Okay.

02:35:03.880 Fine.

02:35:04.460 And I've been to a lot of vintage car shows.

02:35:07.760 So it's like, I don't know.

02:35:10.160 Nobody at the vintage car shows you're going to is not competing over the lowest mile vintage cars.

02:35:16.160 That's insane.

02:35:16.580 Okay, we're talking about zero miles.

02:35:18.460 And again, I've said a perfect mileage is about 1,000 miles.

02:35:22.880 Our original Roadrunner was zero miles.

02:35:25.000 Oh, I don't want that one, Paul.

02:35:26.320 Said no fucking vintage car ever.

02:35:28.540 Nobody's ever said that.

02:35:29.480 Yeah, because it's going to continue sitting in the garage.

02:35:32.560 It's not going to be driven.

02:35:33.920 Okay.

02:35:34.400 Yeah, they'll drive it.

02:35:35.320 They'll drive it just to put the first mile on it.

02:35:37.220 What are you talking about?

02:35:38.100 Yeah, exactly.

02:35:39.200 Just the first mile.

02:35:40.080 That's every vintage buyer's dream.

02:35:42.040 It's like buying a vintage gun that's never been fired once.

02:35:45.560 The first thing you're going to do is take that fucker out of the box and go shoot it.

02:35:49.260 That's how it works.

02:35:50.040 So what you're saying is a vintage car, just like a virgin woman, let's say, you would just want to kind of have her, just like the car, sit in the garage and not really, you know, go for a drive and be reliable?

02:36:06.440 No, I think it would want her because you'd want to fuck her.

02:36:07.740 That's what I'm saying.

02:36:08.740 I think it would want her because you'd want to take her for a spin.

02:36:12.100 I think it would want her because you'd want to have sex with her and not put her in the garage.

02:36:16.420 That's what I think.

02:36:17.280 But what do I know, you know, what do I know?

02:36:20.480 As long as someone buys a car, I think everyone can have different opinions.

02:36:25.200 But I think, I think like, I feel like, are you talking about a physical car?

02:36:29.220 Because I think we're talking about relationships and like experience.

02:36:32.520 Which I agree on the relationship and the experience part.

02:36:36.160 But it's like, again, I don't agree with the car part.

02:36:38.320 I don't, I think, I think it was never about the car.

02:36:40.400 That's it.

02:36:41.040 It was never about the car.

02:36:41.860 I think the car vintage.

02:36:42.860 I know it's not about the car, but I don't think it should be about the car at all.

02:36:46.800 Yeah, I think, I agree.

02:36:49.380 Yeah, no, I completely agree with the relationship and the women part of it.

02:36:53.860 And that women, you know, and that man would want somebody with less, you know, miles on it, whatever.

02:36:59.240 But it just, the car thing just does not make sense to me.

02:37:02.780 Thank you.

02:37:03.060 Anyways, we're all going to get a car one day or another.

02:37:06.680 What's the next question?

02:37:08.260 Yes, they want them to go vroom.

02:37:09.980 They want them to go vroom.

02:37:11.160 They want the car to go vroom.

02:37:12.600 They want the chip to go vroom.

02:37:14.240 They want the gun to go vroom.

02:37:15.560 I'm sure you do.

02:37:16.420 That's what they want.

02:37:17.320 I'm sorry.

02:37:17.920 I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but that's what they all want.

02:37:22.120 Yeah, and any car with the car.

02:37:23.740 Okay, all right, all right.

02:37:24.440 You've had, okay, okay, okay.

02:37:26.020 All right, Crazy Ace, thank you for the gift of 10 subs.

02:37:28.600 We have two chats we got to read.

02:37:29.740 I'll have you read them for us.

02:37:31.000 They're going to come up here in just a sec.

02:37:33.680 Ace, thank you for the gift of 10 subs.

02:37:35.000 Appreciate it.

02:37:35.500 Oh, Andrew, you're lagging a little bit.

02:37:37.940 Can I go?

02:37:38.700 Yeah, go ahead.

02:37:39.220 Men are less confident and will settle for less.

02:37:41.600 I'm not 10, but I know now how much higher quality I could have gotten if confident.

02:37:48.420 Women having high confidence impacts men's confidence.

02:37:52.140 Living.

02:37:52.640 Thank you very much, man.

02:37:53.420 Oh, here, just tied that on center.

02:37:56.860 I think he, did he end the call or is he?

02:37:59.980 Did I read it?

02:38:00.360 Okay, yeah, go ahead.

02:38:01.940 Wait, just, hold on, just let it.

02:38:04.580 No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

02:38:05.320 They will all be whores for the right man.

02:38:07.400 You said you had 5,000 women in your DMs.

02:38:09.600 The difference is I say yes.

02:38:11.140 You turn them down.

02:38:12.460 The women are the same.

02:38:13.520 I give them what they want.

02:38:15.520 Oh, hold on.

02:38:16.360 Devon Jackson donated $200.

02:38:19.260 I would argue the only thing more sexual experience on a woman does is make her know what she wants

02:38:24.740 the man to do for her in the bedroom.

02:38:26.620 It doesn't make her more considerate of what a man needs.

02:38:30.420 That's a good point.

02:38:32.440 That's a good point.

02:38:33.880 I think it's a good point, but I also think that more relationships in a way put sex aside.

02:38:39.880 More relationships can help a woman know what she needs from a man and what a man might need.

02:38:47.180 My experience has definitely, I agree with you, my experience has definitely helped me be a better person for a man in the long run.

02:38:54.260 I know it works with men in general and what doesn't.

02:38:57.540 Obviously, every man is specific and has specific needs, but as women, men, people, we all have basic needs when it comes to, like, the connection.

02:39:07.480 But where, there's this video game term called diminishing returns.

02:39:13.200 So, for example, in World of Warcraft, you know, if you have, like, a snare, if there's a snare or, like, a root, you can't just constantly have somebody frozen in, like, an ice nova.

02:39:24.720 Like, eventually, they're going to, you know, or you can't just keep stunning them.

02:39:28.160 Like, you can't stun lock somebody permanently.

02:39:31.680 Like, there's going to be diminishing returns on stuns, snares, roots, all this stuff, right?

02:39:37.180 Freeze, freeze.

02:39:38.920 And you've got to compensate for cooldowns, AOCs, the whole nine.

02:39:42.300 All that stuff.

02:39:43.340 Area of effect, AOE, all that stuff, right?

02:39:45.800 So, there's diminishing returns in video games.

02:39:47.880 So, at what point with a woman do you start getting diminishing returns when it comes to her supposed, the more relationship or sexual experience she's had?

02:39:56.080 At what point does it stop?

02:39:59.320 I don't even know if there's, perhaps there's some benefits, but I don't know.

02:40:06.440 I think, like, as a guy, you could take a girl who's never been in a relationship or who's a virgin.

02:40:13.980 You can have great sex with her if you know how to lead.

02:40:16.580 You can have a great relationship with her if you know how to lead.

02:40:21.160 Even if she's not had any experience.

02:40:22.880 You can just, you say, well, I can, I'll know what to do better.

02:40:28.780 Or, as the guy, I could just say, this is what I need you to do.

02:40:34.420 And if you're submissive and you're willing to follow my lead, we'll have a good relationship.

02:40:41.520 Like a mold aspect?

02:40:42.880 Like being able to mold and tailor that person to you?

02:40:46.300 That's what happened with me and my baby daddy.

02:40:49.080 No, no, I agree.

02:40:50.340 But it didn't work out.

02:40:51.160 I agree.

02:40:51.620 That's what I do.

02:40:51.900 I think that there's definitely two sides to it of having a lot of relationship experience.

02:40:56.540 Because sometimes you can, say you've had 10 relationships and they've all been over a year long and you learned them and whatnot.

02:41:02.460 And then you go into a new one.

02:41:03.760 And then you try to put all these other relationship experiences onto them of, oh, well, this guy didn't like this, so I shouldn't do this.

02:41:11.780 And you're not listening to him or taking them into account.

02:41:16.380 So I think molding, in a way, needs to happen to both people in every relationship for it to be successful.

02:41:23.800 I agree.

02:41:25.100 Q, do you want to respond to, I don't know if you want me to pull it back up?

02:41:28.340 You can pull it up.

02:41:29.300 You can pull it up.

02:41:30.000 Q, they will all be hoarse for the right man.

02:41:33.880 You said you have 5,000 women in your DMs.

02:41:35.820 The difference is I said yes.

02:41:37.520 You turned them down.

02:41:38.700 The women are the same.

02:41:40.220 Give them what they want.

02:41:43.180 Nah, I got standards.

02:41:44.840 I ain't going to fuck every woman just because she and my DM.

02:41:48.480 And I don't just believe in guys who say they fucked X amount of women on the internet either.

02:41:54.340 Well, Paladins, thank you.

02:41:55.880 We have two super chats here.

02:41:57.680 Can I have you read these two?

02:42:01.460 Thank you.

02:42:01.780 The Gold Eagle 99.

02:42:02.840 Thank you.

02:42:03.320 Well, Q, what conflicts are we talking about exactly?

02:42:06.100 You do realize your contribute to the problem is doing that within the mating market in America.

02:42:11.800 I'm not mad at you.

02:42:12.960 You're a hater-sexual.

02:42:14.840 Heter-sexual.

02:42:15.520 Hater-sexual guy.

02:42:16.720 Hater-sexual, dude.

02:42:18.100 Sorry.

02:42:18.760 How dare you?

02:42:19.740 But just own it.

02:42:20.260 Hater-sexual.

02:42:20.880 He has.

02:42:22.220 That's going to be on his new Twitter bio.

02:42:25.260 Hater-sexual.

02:42:26.980 Wait, I'm going to change the title of the video to include hater-sexual.

02:42:33.420 Let's see.

02:42:34.140 Q, do you want to respond to that?

02:42:35.900 I don't see the world through your perspective.

02:42:38.280 If taking two girls' virginity contributes to the world's problems, dating market problems,

02:42:43.580 you might need to be more concerned with what else is going on.

02:42:46.340 I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

02:42:48.180 All right.

02:42:48.800 And then can I have you read this one?

02:42:51.100 Maybe this will make more sense to you.

02:42:55.520 You platinum credit card, virgin woman with high body counts, 250 credit card, and woman

02:43:05.420 control access to sex.

02:43:07.460 You are diminishing your value with each guy you've had sex with outside a marriage slash

02:43:15.240 long-term relationship.

02:43:16.540 So, hang on.

02:43:17.980 So, let me phrase this out the way he means it.

02:43:22.200 Please.

02:43:22.900 If you had a credit card that had a $20,000 limit on it, would you prefer that it had $0 on

02:43:30.120 it or $10,000 on it?

02:43:32.480 $10,000.

02:43:33.120 You would prefer it had $10,000 on it.

02:43:36.820 Limit.

02:43:37.420 Yeah.

02:43:37.880 A $10,000 limit.

02:43:38.780 No, no, no.

02:43:38.960 It has a $20,000 limit.

02:43:41.140 Or a $20,000 limit.

02:43:43.360 Yeah.

02:43:43.600 If it had a $20,000 limit, would you prefer that it had $0 put on the card or $10,000 already

02:43:50.260 put on the card?

02:43:51.680 Well, of course, $0 put on the card.

02:43:53.780 Yeah, $0, right?

02:43:55.000 Yeah.

02:43:55.400 100%.

02:43:56.040 But again, that's a whole different comparison.

02:43:58.780 I like that.

02:43:59.300 Like, I don't know why we have to compare women to inanimate objects.

02:44:04.760 Oh, it's an analogy.

02:44:05.820 Well, we're not.

02:44:06.460 I know.

02:44:06.860 I understand it's an analogy.

02:44:08.020 This is a very feminine way to look at things, right?

02:44:12.160 You're only looking at things through the prism of you, right?

02:44:16.780 You're only looking through things through the prism of the woman.

02:44:19.180 So, like, the whole purpose of this podcast is to show it from both angles, right?

02:44:23.940 Here's how women tend to think about these things.

02:44:25.920 Here's how men tend to think about these things.

02:44:27.320 Yeah, so you are sharing your opinion and I'm sharing mine, and then the viewers can

02:44:32.260 make their own opinions based on the woman's perspective and the man's perspective.

02:44:36.960 Isn't that right?

02:44:38.120 Yeah, they can.

02:44:38.920 Absolutely.

02:44:39.580 But what I'm saying is I try to put myself in the shoes, right, the opposite person's

02:44:45.580 shoes, to see it from their perspective.

02:44:47.340 Do you?

02:44:47.740 Right?

02:44:48.020 So, like, yeah, I do it all the time.

02:44:50.160 Why do you think that I logically beat the hell out of you all the time?

02:44:52.860 It's because, it's because I put myself in your worldview.

02:44:56.500 So, you bring up Santa Claus because you want to put, okay.

02:44:59.960 Hang on, hang on, before you start spurging out, it's because I put myself in your worldview

02:45:04.580 and then I logically think it to the end and go, wow, that's really stupid.

02:45:08.400 That's why I'm able to do that.

02:45:10.160 So, yes, I do think of it from your worldview and I think of it from my worldview.

02:45:15.060 So, okay, if you say so, because I have agreed with a lot of the male perspectives quite a

02:45:23.720 lot and I have mentioned that, however, I have not seen you agreeing with the women's

02:45:28.820 perspective once.

02:45:29.700 So, I'm just pointing that out.

02:45:33.340 That's all I'm going to say.

02:45:36.260 What perspectives?

02:45:38.380 Any women's perspective.

02:45:39.840 I've never seen you agreeing with any women at all.

02:45:43.100 I agree with them on all sorts of things.

02:45:45.660 Okay, like what?

02:45:47.080 Because I've just not seen it.

02:45:49.600 Well, let me give you, I can give you multiple examples.

02:45:52.400 So, one example is there's many women who come on here who are religious, especially some

02:45:56.480 of the trad-calf women.

02:45:58.380 They have great takes, I think, when it comes to the dating market.

02:46:01.680 I've talked to women on here who are mothers who I think had really good takes about how

02:46:05.100 to rear children.

02:46:06.300 There have been many women on here who have discussed the dangers of OnlyFans and sex work,

02:46:11.400 prostitution, things like this that I've been in mass agreement with, looking at it from

02:46:15.420 their perspective and my perspective.

02:46:17.640 In fact, I would say that I agree with somewhere around 60-70% of the takes that women have.

02:46:24.920 The things that go viral are the takes that I disagree with.

02:46:28.180 So, I don't necessarily watch the viral stuff.

02:46:31.620 I actually watch the podcasts and kind of go to where you're specifically agreeing or

02:46:37.920 disagreeing.

02:46:38.740 And I personally just not necessarily seeing you agree with a lot of the women's perspective.

02:46:44.560 However, everything that you've just mentioned, those are also your personal opinions as well.

02:46:49.120 So, for example, right now tonight, this gal, Maddie, I think it's Maddie, that's you in

02:46:54.740 the red shirt?

02:46:56.020 Yes.

02:46:56.300 Yeah, I'm sorry.

02:46:56.920 I have my notes here.

02:46:58.260 Please forgive me.

02:46:59.300 No worries.

02:46:59.840 I try to write everybody's names down to make sure, right?

02:47:02.520 So, Maddie said, Andrew's using a loaded term.

02:47:06.300 I have it right here in my notes.

02:47:07.440 He's using virtue as a loaded term.

02:47:09.400 Very first thing I said, I agreed with her and said, I agree with you that the term is loaded.

02:47:14.040 Very first thing I said to her, is that correct?

02:47:16.080 Okay, so you've agreed that virtue is a loaded term, but then you still continue to use it.

02:47:23.880 So, okay, I'm going to give you that, that you do not disagree with everything.

02:47:28.340 No, that's not what happened.

02:47:29.560 Not what happened.

02:47:30.300 What happened was I said, I agree with you, it's a loaded term, but I think perhaps you

02:47:34.760 and I are using it the same.

02:47:36.020 But if not, let me give you a descriptor for what I mean.

02:47:38.260 Yes, I remember.

02:47:38.980 I remember.

02:47:39.580 I was here.

02:47:41.160 Am I way off base here, Maddie?

02:47:43.180 Yeah, no, he is correct.

02:47:44.480 Yeah, no, I do agree, and I've agreed with the both of you, too.

02:47:48.300 Okay.

02:47:48.920 Yeah, he agreed.

02:47:49.740 Really?

02:47:50.120 Because a second ago, it was, I haven't seen you agree with a single thing a woman has said

02:47:54.360 on this panel all night, and now suddenly it's, well, I agree with you.

02:47:57.520 Okay, well, you don't need to mock me.

02:47:59.440 He really is quite nice and agrees with everything they say.

02:48:02.740 It's like, maybe we can get a good, clear answer out of you, and maybe you're just coping,

02:48:09.360 right?

02:48:09.580 Maybe you're just coping a little bit.

02:48:10.720 So the first thing Andrew agreed on was that we were using, that the term virtue was a

02:48:15.860 loaded term.

02:48:16.500 Yes.

02:48:16.660 And then we both went into clarification mode and said what we were, what we meant between

02:48:22.060 like faking virtue and then.

02:48:24.400 Yeah, I was a part of that.

02:48:25.880 Yeah, I'm not, I'm aware.

02:48:26.960 Yeah.

02:48:27.140 And so he agreed on multiple accounts, like, okay.

02:48:30.420 And then he said that he agrees with, like, you said, trod, trod wives, trod Catholic

02:48:36.840 women.

02:48:37.960 And then that you said that he shares, those are opinions that he shares.

02:48:41.200 Yeah.

02:48:41.420 If he shares his opinions with those women, then of course he's going to agree.

02:48:44.840 Yeah.

02:48:45.120 So, and that's kind of my point.

02:48:47.160 You, okay.

02:48:48.360 I will take back that you completely disagree with every single woman.

02:48:52.520 I will take that back.

02:48:53.840 My apologies.

02:48:54.560 However, um, you don't actually take any other person's perspectives and how they live their

02:49:02.980 lives outside of your own personal opinions.

02:49:06.240 And that's kind of is my overall point.

02:49:10.360 So, you know.

02:49:13.140 Okay.

02:49:13.860 Just, just me agreeing that there could be a term which is being used that is loaded,

02:49:19.900 right?

02:49:20.700 Is me literally instantly giving an olive branch and saying, I understand your perspective

02:49:25.540 here.

02:49:26.360 Let's clarify it so that you understand what I'm saying and I understand what you're saying.

02:49:31.360 And that was excellent.

02:49:32.200 That was very, that's an idea.

02:49:33.720 So this is the idea of common.

02:49:35.040 Hang on.

02:49:35.920 Hang on a second.

02:49:36.920 This is the idea of us finding common ground so I can see the viewpoint.

02:49:40.540 But me just, just having to agree or like kissing your ass on everything you say is insane,

02:49:47.400 right?

02:49:48.020 You never do.

02:49:48.700 If you have, if you say something stupid, I'm going to tell you it's stupid.

02:49:52.260 But if you say something which I think is, uh, is, is very sharp, sharp witted or something

02:49:57.480 I agree with, I'll be the first one to say, she's absolutely right.

02:50:01.080 And here's why you're, what you're doing right now is what I like to call peer unadulterated

02:50:06.460 cope.

02:50:07.100 It's peer cope.

02:50:08.460 I gave you an example in real time.

02:50:10.460 It was backed up by another woman on the panel.

02:50:12.420 Right.

02:50:12.940 And you just lost the exchange, right?

02:50:15.080 Just lost the exchange.

02:50:16.320 Just take the L.

02:50:17.340 Well, okay.

02:50:18.220 I'm sorry.

02:50:19.260 Like, where did I disagree with a woman on the panel just now?

02:50:23.220 You, you literally got done saying, uh, you never, never agree with anything any of these

02:50:29.360 women say.

02:50:30.200 And then I gave you an example.

02:50:31.120 Even up tonight, even up tonight in real time.

02:50:34.100 And I took that back and apologized.

02:50:36.940 By the way, I haven't even had an opportunity tonight to agree or disagree with very many

02:50:41.540 women on the panel because you've been bogarting all the time as usual.

02:50:46.640 Okay.

02:50:47.040 Well, I mean, maybe Brian shouldn't have asked me then to be here.

02:50:51.880 So, okay.

02:50:54.940 I'm just going to move it on then.

02:50:56.580 Uh, just really quick.

02:50:57.480 Dragon's talent.

02:50:58.200 I didn't get to thank you for your super chat.

02:50:59.900 Uh, you know, dragon's talent.

02:51:01.380 Thank you for the, uh, super chat, man.

02:51:02.900 Really appreciate it.

02:51:03.780 Uh, haven't seen you in the chat for a while, man.

02:51:05.480 So, uh, good to have you back and thank you for that.

02:51:07.620 We did.

02:51:08.040 I do believe we read this one, correct?

02:51:09.820 Yeah.

02:51:10.280 Thank you.

02:51:10.740 Dragon's talent.

02:51:11.420 Appreciate it.

02:51:12.000 If you guys want, uh, get in a TTS, $200 TTS.

02:51:16.260 Read is a hundred dollars.

02:51:18.440 All right.

02:51:18.960 So let me, uh, get into a couple of things here.

02:51:20.960 I did have a quick question.

02:51:22.040 I meant to ask this at the beginning of the show, just not dating related.

02:51:25.740 I was just curious about it cause I saw it.

02:51:27.780 Uh, would you save your family if it meant the rest of the world had to perish?

02:51:35.240 So do you pick the world?

02:51:36.840 So when I say that everybody else dies, but your family is saved or do you save the world?

02:51:46.880 But your family's dead, which do you pick?

02:51:51.220 It's kind of hard cause I don't talk to like half of my family, but then like my mom's side.

02:51:58.520 So I think, I think I would stay with family.

02:52:01.420 You'd say family.

02:52:02.460 Yeah.

02:52:02.660 Family.

02:52:02.960 Um, I don't think just me and my family would know how to like continue life on earth, you

02:52:10.160 know, like, cause if we're destroying everybody else, it's just me and my tribe.

02:52:13.380 So I'd rather have the rest of the world live and continue.

02:52:16.880 And y'all wiped out.

02:52:18.080 Okay.

02:52:18.800 I love my family more than I could, it'd be the more than humanly possible, but I would

02:52:23.040 pick save the world.

02:52:24.580 Okay.

02:52:24.980 I'm sure.

02:52:25.180 By the way, when I say save the world, like the earth, it's not like the earth explodes.

02:52:30.200 It's just everybody else dies.

02:52:32.640 Yeah.

02:52:33.460 Well, I would save my family because honestly, if the rest of the world goes, like eventually

02:52:40.280 life will come back.

02:52:42.560 I'd pick the world.

02:52:43.800 I'd save the world.

02:52:44.680 I would also save the world.

02:52:47.800 Like it makes no sense for just one family to be on the entire planet.

02:52:51.640 Can I say the world, but can I be dead first?

02:52:56.120 Please.

02:52:57.180 I don't want to see my family.

02:52:58.620 Like, I'm just thinking about it in a logical aspect of like, you need the world, like the

02:53:02.880 economy and everything moves with other people.

02:53:05.300 Like, I think it's selfish for me to want to pick my family, but I do think my, like

02:53:10.080 my family's life shouldn't be dependent on me.

02:53:11.720 Anyways, I'm going to just, yeah.

02:53:13.120 Chat, what do you think?

02:53:14.540 Q, what do you think?

02:53:15.860 I'm saving the world.

02:53:18.180 Anissa, what do you, what do you pick?

02:53:21.620 Probably the world.

02:53:23.020 Okay.

02:53:24.480 I actually, I, I don't know.

02:53:26.740 I would have to think about this because it's a bit of a moral dilemma.

02:53:30.740 Yeah.

02:53:31.220 I don't have an answer actually, but I want to think about it more.

02:53:34.100 Andrew?

02:53:35.940 I think I would save my family.

02:53:38.400 Oh, respect.

02:53:40.680 Yo, Crazy Ace, thanks for the gifted 10 subs.

02:53:43.520 And by the way, I also think that's the wrong answer, that that's the immoral answer.

02:53:48.060 I think the correct answer is that you would, you know, save everybody else except you and

02:53:54.740 your family.

02:53:55.500 But if you're asking me to actually put myself in the situation, Andrew, what would you actually

02:54:00.140 do?

02:54:00.460 There's two buttons in front of you.

02:54:01.940 One, everybody in your family is annihilated forever.

02:54:06.160 But, and two, the entire rest of the world is, you fuckers gotta go.

02:54:10.460 I actually respect you for acknowledging that.

02:54:14.680 That's very, you know, that's very cool.

02:54:16.720 I think that's pretty close to my, my position, my position on this.

02:54:20.740 Well put, Andrew.

02:54:22.240 And let's see, let's get to, oh, I did want to go kind of back to everyone's relationship

02:54:26.380 status really quick.

02:54:27.240 So, uh, do you have, or have you ever had a roster?

02:54:31.460 A roster?

02:54:32.060 Uh.

02:54:32.360 Do you have a roster?

02:54:33.680 Right now?

02:54:34.360 Yeah.

02:54:35.540 Mm, no.

02:54:36.740 Maybe just like one person or two.

02:54:39.500 Currently?

02:54:40.280 Yeah, currently.

02:54:40.900 Yeah, because you said you've been single, right?

02:54:42.220 But, I mean, so you already.

02:54:43.520 I like to talk to people.

02:54:45.840 Kind of.

02:54:45.880 By talk, do you mean.

02:54:47.240 Well, one lives kind of far away.

02:54:48.340 P and the deep sex or what?

02:54:49.860 One lives far away.

02:54:50.960 Okay.

02:54:51.340 Yeah.

02:54:51.880 And then the other.

02:54:52.540 I met him one time.

02:54:53.320 Okay.

02:54:53.620 Can I, hang on, hang on real quick.

02:54:55.980 I'm sorry to cut in.

02:54:56.820 I was just thinking about, because you, you, you blindsided me with this question, right?

02:55:00.100 But now, now I, I gotta, I gotta dive just a little bit, if you'll humor me, just for

02:55:05.080 a second.

02:55:05.540 So, I actually am not sure you can trust a man who doesn't say my family, now that I

02:55:11.260 think about it.

02:55:13.080 Because it's the entire idea of, I think, how you would trust another man is that they

02:55:19.960 put the virtue of their family before anything else.

02:55:22.640 And that you, as another man, know that.

02:55:24.940 And this is how we create barriers as men between each other, right?

02:55:28.000 We don't cross certain thresholds which involve other men's families, this type of thing.

02:55:32.920 That's how we, like, create the universal respect and aspect of barriers between each other.

02:55:38.180 So, I think, ultimately, I think, I think I would trust a man less if he said the world.

02:55:44.520 I can't.

02:55:45.300 Just saying.

02:55:46.060 Wait, Andrew.

02:55:47.500 Wait.

02:55:47.900 Wait, this is, this just came to me.

02:55:50.580 It might be the most, like, toaster brain take ever.

02:55:54.880 But, so, um, I think I talked to Chase about this a while back.

02:56:00.600 But, so, do you think, like, that Jesus will come back?

02:56:05.820 Yes.

02:56:06.760 Do you think he's currently alive, like, right now?

02:56:09.040 Or not yet?

02:56:09.540 Yeah, he's alive.

02:56:10.440 Correct.

02:56:10.680 So, like, would this.

02:56:12.040 He was resurrected and he never died.

02:56:13.740 But would this, in this scenario, entail, like, because he's a, he would, he would resurrect as an actual man, right?

02:56:22.040 And he's already been resurrected.

02:56:23.660 So, he's still, he's alive right now.

02:56:25.860 But, like, in human form?

02:56:27.280 Uh, well, he's, he can incarnate it in human form.

02:56:33.900 Is he incarnated in human form?

02:56:37.200 Um, I don't, I don't actually, I would have to actually ask on that.

02:56:41.680 I'm not sure.

02:56:42.360 Okay.

02:56:42.560 I haven't thought about that before.

02:56:44.000 Because isn't, isn't it, don't they say that, like, the Antichrist is currently, like, walking around?

02:56:49.780 Yeah, I think he would return in human form, yes.

02:56:52.260 Okay.

02:56:52.480 So, but if he was in human form and you chose the world, wouldn't, you know what I mean?

02:57:00.800 Are you talking about the rapture?

02:57:03.000 Yeah, no, no, I see what you're saying.

02:57:05.040 He would destroy Jesus.

02:57:06.380 I'm saying, I'm saying, I agree with you that this could be a violation of Christian ethics.

02:57:10.660 I've never actually thought about the question before.

02:57:12.980 The only thing that I thought about when he asked the question is, Andrew, what actually would you do?

02:57:19.460 Right?

02:57:19.860 You, as the person you are right now, like, I know how I am, right?

02:57:24.180 What would you actually do in this situation if these two buttons were posed to you?

02:57:30.180 Well, you're all, you're all gone, right?

02:57:32.440 And only those with the genetic lineage of Wilson shall repopulate the earth.

02:57:38.000 And that's it, right?

02:57:39.400 That's the way that I see it.

02:57:40.860 That's the only way that I would see it.

02:57:42.300 Put in that situation.

02:57:45.160 I mean, now, these hypotheticals are designed specifically for this, right?

02:57:48.540 To test your morals, test your logic, see what you would actually do.

02:57:52.320 This is not a question which has ever been posed to me before, so I've never actually thought about it.

02:57:56.660 But I think that that's what I would do.

02:57:58.660 And what the implications of that are, I have no idea yet, right?

02:58:01.800 Right.

02:58:02.160 I chose the world because, one, I don't have a family in the sense of a wife and kids.

02:58:10.440 And, ultimately, if it's just my family that's left, we're not going to repopulate the earth, not without incest.

02:58:18.940 And then my mother's going to pass away, my grandparents are going to pass away, and then I'm going to be left alone regardless with no one to mate with or repopulate the earth on my own.

02:58:29.280 So, you know, that's just the risk that I would be willing to take.

02:58:32.380 I think in this example, if you pick family, it includes, like, you die too.

02:58:36.180 I'm pretty sure.

02:58:37.080 Oh, okay.

02:58:38.000 I don't know if that changes anything.

02:58:39.060 So, this is, like, you also hit me on one of the theological topics that I'm the worst at, which is eschatology.

02:58:47.480 I tend to stay away from eschatology, and so I just, I don't really dive into it very much.

02:58:53.360 So, there's, I would talk to, like, an ortho priest or somebody like this for answers on eschatology.

02:59:01.120 I'm just, I'm not that guy.

02:59:02.760 I apologize.

02:59:03.640 Could you possibly explain what that is?

02:59:06.020 Just so I can be a contract.

02:59:07.080 I don't think it's...

02:59:08.020 Because I'm not sure what that is.

02:59:10.700 It's the study of the Eskils.

02:59:14.960 What's Eskils?

02:59:15.980 I'm sorry.

02:59:17.180 Okay.

02:59:17.880 You know, if you don't want to go there, I'm not going.

02:59:20.520 I understand.

02:59:21.320 You don't understand, but it's, I don't think it's...

02:59:23.660 Okay.

02:59:23.960 That's fine.

02:59:24.360 That's fine.

02:59:24.720 Worth.

02:59:25.520 That's fine.

02:59:27.120 Anyways.

02:59:27.800 I will drop it.

02:59:28.240 So, going back to the roster thing, have you ever had a roster bigger than the one or two

02:59:33.220 that you have now?

02:59:34.820 I don't think so.

02:59:36.060 I've never, like, talked to multiple guys before.

02:59:40.160 Like, I never, I don't know, just too much work.

02:59:42.280 Okay.

02:59:42.640 Just too much.

02:59:43.460 Ever had a roster?

02:59:44.600 I did.

02:59:45.260 I'm 29 now, but I had one between, like, 20 and 23, and it was the same person.

02:59:49.240 How big was the roster?

02:59:50.180 Or the same, like, two or three people.

02:59:51.620 At the same time?

02:59:52.860 Yeah.

02:59:53.320 Okay.

02:59:54.140 Roster?

02:59:54.700 Never had a roster.

02:59:55.860 Roster?

02:59:56.500 No.

02:59:56.740 Come on, be honest.

02:59:58.080 One at a time.

02:59:58.960 Come on, be honest.

02:59:59.880 I can't handle more than one of you guys.

03:00:01.780 Roster?

03:00:02.200 No roster.

03:00:02.960 No roster?

03:00:03.760 No.

03:00:04.280 Zero roster?

03:00:05.420 Correct, I think.

03:00:06.540 Any guys on the roster?

03:00:07.480 I think.

03:00:08.300 Right now, no.

03:00:09.000 Currently on the roster?

03:00:09.760 No.

03:00:10.080 Okay.

03:00:10.620 Roster?

03:00:11.220 For about two years, I was polyamorous.

03:00:15.160 Yeah, so I have been seeing, like, around five to ten people, and some were in person,

03:00:20.560 some were online.

03:00:21.660 How many of them, of the five to ten, were you?

03:00:25.360 I've only, in those two years, I was only with about, in the sex terms, about five people,

03:00:37.980 I believe, like, in general.

03:00:40.380 Okay.

03:00:41.100 Turkish?

03:00:41.920 No.

03:00:42.540 No.

03:00:44.040 No.

03:00:45.020 Okay.

03:00:45.800 Let's see here.

03:00:46.720 Let me get, I want to get through some of the show notes here.

03:00:49.140 Uh, let's see, uh, Emma, you wanted to talk about toxic relationships?

03:00:55.720 Oh, yeah, they're all awful.

03:00:58.380 No, obviously, no, yeah.

03:00:59.980 And you've been in, you've been in a toxic relationship?

03:01:03.280 No, my, no, no, no, uh, I've been around them a lot, and my twin sister is currently in

03:01:10.340 one.

03:01:11.340 Wait, you're, oh, you have a twin sister?

03:01:13.080 Correct.

03:01:13.640 Oh, okay.

03:01:14.320 Oh, we should have had her on.

03:01:15.520 Does she live nearby?

03:01:16.880 No.

03:01:17.200 Okay.

03:01:18.080 Um, she's in a toxic relationship.

03:01:21.240 Yeah, now it's a marriage.

03:01:22.920 Oh.

03:01:23.400 Okay, why is it toxic?

03:01:25.100 Um, it's abusive.

03:01:27.780 Yeah, what, how does she abuse him?

03:01:29.900 It's the other way around.

03:01:30.900 Oh, my bad.

03:01:32.140 Okay.

03:01:32.680 Um.

03:01:33.200 Um, in all the ways, financially, emotionally, physically.

03:01:41.040 Okay, um, you also said when it comes to dating, you hate it.

03:01:44.700 Yeah, I do.

03:01:45.460 The expectations of women is crazy.

03:01:48.380 Yeah.

03:01:48.860 No one wants to be in love anymore.

03:01:50.980 Correct.

03:01:51.580 Not too much of a hot take, I guess.

03:01:53.280 So, you hate it.

03:01:54.380 The expectations of women crazy, uh, is crazy.

03:01:58.060 Yeah.

03:01:58.300 And no one, so, uh, the expectations of women is crazy.

03:02:01.840 Do you mean, like, men's expectations for women?

03:02:04.540 Correct.

03:02:05.340 Uh, so, so what are those?

03:02:06.700 What are, what are the, what's that?

03:02:08.440 I think a lot of men expect a lot from women in the sense of, like, they have to be physically

03:02:15.260 attractive, they have to have intellectual, like, conversations, but.

03:02:21.120 Wait, they do?

03:02:23.200 Q?

03:02:25.940 Sorry, go ahead.

03:02:26.700 I, me personally, me personally, because I'm fairly intelligent.

03:02:32.920 I have, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, I, yeah, I'm a nerd.

03:02:36.180 Philosophy conversation.

03:02:36.660 No, no, I don't have to have philosophical conversations, but she needs to understand what

03:02:39.920 I'm saying without me having to explain every single thing to her.

03:02:43.400 Like, when we went, like, when me and the woman that I date went on, uh, to the, uh, Museum

03:02:48.880 of Natural History in Manhattan last week, I, I really enjoyed it with her because we

03:02:53.980 were both able to read the, the captions.

03:02:56.280 We played little games with ourselves and everything.

03:02:58.880 She understood what was being said.

03:03:00.160 She was interested in a lot of the evolution and cultures and everything like that.

03:03:03.640 So it was, it was, it was fun.

03:03:04.820 It felt good.

03:03:05.360 You know what I mean?

03:03:06.380 So.

03:03:06.560 Yeah.

03:03:06.780 So, but going back to you, uh, so you're listing out the, uh, I guess the crazy expectations that

03:03:12.920 men have for women or the expectations of women is crazy.

03:03:16.340 So just in terms of how attractive they have to be, you said, uh, the expectation that they

03:03:20.940 be intelligent.

03:03:21.940 Yeah.

03:03:22.340 I guess that one doesn't matter as much, but I think more of like, you see it a lot in

03:03:27.540 media as well.

03:03:29.060 The expectations for someone to be sexy while also, you know, the classic drinking beer and

03:03:34.240 eating pizza and loving sports and just being overall the perfect woman.

03:03:41.440 Um, which I think is not, yeah.

03:03:47.640 Anything else?

03:03:48.860 What are some of the other expectations?

03:03:51.300 Um, I can't really think of them right now.

03:03:55.760 So before we dive into that, do you guys opening up to the panel?

03:03:59.280 Do you guys agree?

03:04:00.240 Do you think the expectations of women, uh, men have crazy expectations of women?

03:04:05.860 Agree?

03:04:06.260 Disagree?

03:04:06.680 I don't really know.

03:04:07.820 I don't think so.

03:04:08.600 Don't know?

03:04:08.880 Okay.

03:04:09.100 Um, I think the majority of men do not have crazy standards.

03:04:13.740 I think they just want to be loved and taken care of.

03:04:15.840 Okay.

03:04:16.600 I, I second that.

03:04:18.100 I also.

03:04:18.520 Oh, sorry.

03:04:19.060 Go ahead.

03:04:19.360 I also think that you're looking at like men's expectations of women's through like a very

03:04:24.140 media, like, um, like what pop culture.

03:04:28.720 Like pop culture-y, like stereotype-y, like point of view.

03:04:33.460 Um, I don't think like, like the, everyone's dream girl like needs to watch football with

03:04:40.100 you on Sunday and eat pizza and have a beer and then cook and clean for you then fuck you.

03:04:44.300 Like, I, I think that's super nuanced.

03:04:46.720 I guess that's just from my perspective, what I've seen in men, but maybe it's the wrong

03:04:53.800 kind of men.

03:04:54.520 Like men or media?

03:04:55.980 Men.

03:04:56.480 Actual men.

03:04:57.800 Okay.

03:04:58.460 Yeah.

03:04:58.860 Can I just, can I just say, I don't think any of that is crazy.

03:05:02.100 I just think men expect their women to like them because if you have a woman who likes

03:05:07.260 you, that woman can be molded to you.

03:05:10.400 She's interested in what you're interested in.

03:05:12.280 She's open to the experiences that you experience.

03:05:15.340 She's, she's literally, she literally becomes an extension of you or reflection of you.

03:05:19.220 And any guy who's had a woman actually like him will attest to that.

03:05:22.940 So I don't think the expectations is necessarily unrealistic or burdensome if you actually like

03:05:28.780 the guy because a lot of women conform to what the guy that they like already likes doing,

03:05:33.800 how he thinks, how he behaves.

03:05:35.720 You become one in the same, essentially.

03:05:37.540 You become a reflection of that guy.

03:05:39.460 Sure.

03:05:40.120 Yeah.

03:05:40.800 I, I, I understand what you're saying.

03:05:45.300 It's fair.

03:05:47.560 I don't think they have much expectations.

03:05:50.860 Yeah.

03:05:51.440 So, um, I don't think that they have like crazy expectations at all.

03:05:56.540 And I also don't think that nobody wants to fall in love either.

03:06:00.920 I do think that that's a very limited perspective.

03:06:04.700 Um, just as I think that when a woman, um, conforms to the man or like, um, molds to the

03:06:11.160 man, like, I think that there's already an innate kind of, um, compatibility within it

03:06:18.240 to mold to the man.

03:06:19.900 Like, I don't think that it's just like a completely, you know, um, a woman who is not

03:06:28.300 at all comfortable or likes those kinds of things would just like them just because her

03:06:34.340 man likes them.

03:06:35.200 But I do think that, you know, I agree with you, but I do think that there's like a little

03:06:39.760 bit of a, of a different.

03:06:43.140 Your thoughts?

03:06:43.960 No, I don't think men ask for too much.

03:06:46.080 I get what Q's saying.

03:06:47.480 Like, I think it's not even the molding.

03:06:49.160 It's just like, you want to spend more time.

03:06:50.800 You want to enjoy the things that they do.

03:06:52.680 You know what I mean?

03:06:53.480 Like low key, like if my man loves football, bro, I don't know anything about sports, but

03:06:58.000 you should watch it.

03:06:58.880 But I'll watch it.

03:06:59.720 I'll pick my favorite player.

03:07:01.560 Like I'll wear a jersey.

03:07:03.060 Like you would do that for your partner.

03:07:05.300 And I don't think it's them asking for it.

03:07:07.240 I think women will do that anyways for the sake of like wanting to spend that.

03:07:11.340 It's like quality time.

03:07:12.240 It's like a, you know, the five types of love.

03:07:14.860 It's like one of those things doing something that they love.

03:07:17.220 Yeah, no, I completely agree.

03:07:18.720 I don't even think it's like a, oh, he likes football.

03:07:21.180 So now I have to start watching football.

03:07:22.640 I was in a relationship.

03:07:23.800 He liked basketball.

03:07:25.200 I loved him down.

03:07:27.360 I really did.

03:07:28.520 And all of a sudden I was scrolling, watching like reels of basketball.

03:07:32.760 Like, oh, that's so cool.

03:07:33.920 Oh, that's so interesting.

03:07:34.880 Like I genuinely opened my mind up and became interested in it.

03:07:38.960 Not so I could have something to talk to him about it, but it was like, oh, so-and-so really like this.

03:07:44.560 Let me send this to them.

03:07:45.360 Or, oh, we can talk about this.

03:07:46.640 Like it became like a pure enjoyment thing of I'm enjoying something that you enjoy.

03:07:51.340 And that makes me happy.

03:07:52.820 Right.

03:07:53.040 Yeah.

03:07:53.580 That's why I said you just expect a girl to like you because she'll behave that way.

03:07:58.100 Okay.

03:07:58.360 Yeah.

03:07:58.960 That makes perfect sense.

03:08:01.000 On this one, I don't think men, most men have crazy expectations of women.

03:08:09.420 Brian does, though.

03:08:10.940 His list is coming.

03:08:12.560 I've got a long list.

03:08:13.900 Long list.

03:08:15.080 But I do think the expectations that women have for men is pretty high, pretty up there.

03:08:22.780 Yep.

03:08:23.080 That's fair.

03:08:23.620 I think men's is probably focused more on the sexual aspect.

03:08:28.760 Wait, the what?

03:08:29.440 The sexual aspect.

03:08:30.280 Men are more focused on, what do you mean?

03:08:33.700 In like expectations of a woman.

03:08:36.200 Like they have to be a certain level of promiscuous, certain body count.

03:08:41.720 Like they can't be to this or to that.

03:08:45.440 They have to be just right.

03:08:47.980 Really?

03:08:48.700 Wait, hold on.

03:08:49.180 I've never encountered a guy like that.

03:08:50.680 Hold on.

03:08:51.040 So, I mean, on the sex component, though, I have to disagree.

03:08:56.100 I think this comes up often.

03:08:58.120 Um, uh, most for men when it comes to sex, I think like you really, as a woman, you really

03:09:05.040 got to fuck up to have bad sex with a guy.

03:09:09.240 Like you got to fuck up.

03:09:11.080 Yeah.

03:09:11.360 I don't know how you get.

03:09:12.280 I don't know.

03:09:13.660 Like, like what's, what's that saying, Q?

03:09:16.380 It's like pizza.

03:09:17.620 Like it's hard to fuck up.

03:09:19.100 Like it's hard to fuck up pizza.

03:09:20.400 Like even bad pizza is still kind of good pizza.

03:09:23.260 Like sex for a guy.

03:09:27.140 I don't know.

03:09:27.760 As a woman, like what, how are you fucking sex up?

03:09:30.580 You know what I mean?

03:09:31.860 Yeah.

03:09:32.080 I can't remember.

03:09:32.480 Like what are you doing?

03:09:32.920 I don't even know.

03:09:33.800 What's going on, Emma?

03:09:34.620 What are you doing?

03:09:35.200 Bad sex.

03:09:36.040 Like, yeah.

03:09:37.200 I mean, unless he's like a super submissive dude and he's like looking to the girl to

03:09:42.780 like make the moves.

03:09:44.860 But if you're a guy and you have even like, you know how to lead.

03:09:49.080 And we do all the work damn near.

03:09:50.760 Yeah.

03:09:51.040 What the hell, bro?

03:09:51.960 We do all the work.

03:09:52.780 What's going on?

03:09:53.340 Y'all do his auxiliary.

03:09:54.360 Just get on top and I'll do the work.

03:09:56.380 It's easy.

03:09:57.460 Oh my God.

03:09:58.380 What?

03:09:59.800 It's easy.

03:10:01.000 Oh my God.

03:10:02.580 It's true.

03:10:03.520 It's, that's all it takes.

03:10:05.160 Just.

03:10:07.740 I don't know.

03:10:09.180 I'm going to, hold on.

03:10:10.140 I got to find this pizza analogy here.

03:10:12.200 Hold on.

03:10:12.660 She hates the analogies.

03:10:14.360 Alex hates these analogies.

03:10:16.440 Okay.

03:10:18.180 Let's see.

03:10:18.840 Where is it?

03:10:19.460 Sex.

03:10:19.780 Okay.

03:10:20.040 It goes, sex is a lot like pizza.

03:10:21.660 When it's good, it's great.

03:10:22.840 When it's bad, it's still pretty good.

03:10:26.080 You know what I mean?

03:10:27.100 Andrew knows what I mean.

03:10:29.340 Q knows what I mean.

03:10:30.660 So I do agree with analogies.

03:10:32.920 I just don't think that people.

03:10:34.560 Oh my God.

03:10:34.700 It's not about you.

03:10:35.780 No, that people.

03:10:37.200 Okay.

03:10:37.660 You know what?

03:10:38.000 Fine, fine, fine.

03:10:39.180 It's not how you talk about you.

03:10:41.060 It's the people versus inanimate objects.

03:10:44.280 However, sex.

03:10:44.720 So do you have like a dehumanization complex?

03:10:47.400 Oh my God.

03:10:48.060 You know what?

03:10:48.500 Maybe I do.

03:10:49.660 Here, let me, let me help you out.

03:10:50.940 Okay.

03:10:51.140 I know you're like Russian or whatever.

03:10:52.880 But I do agree with the sex analogy.

03:10:55.460 I love that.

03:10:55.680 Hold on.

03:10:56.040 But an analogy is used to help articulate and elucidate a point.

03:11:02.800 So if somebody makes an analogy when it comes to cars or pizza or whatever, you're not saying

03:11:06.540 that women are cars or women are pizza.

03:11:09.300 You're simply using a sort of, you're using the English language or any language for that matter to try to help convey something in a way to sort of creatively articulate something that perhaps was misunderstood or not understood simply by the use of language.

03:11:29.140 Okay, so if I said that men are like cucumbers, what would you say to that?

03:11:34.660 That would not offend me.

03:11:35.780 I'd be like, how are men like cucumbers?

03:11:37.620 What's the analogy?

03:11:38.380 Because it's the, I don't know, it's the size and the color and I don't know, whatever.

03:11:43.400 Bro, if you're fucking.

03:11:45.500 Again.

03:11:46.620 What?

03:11:46.960 Again.

03:11:47.540 Wait, wait.

03:11:47.920 But it's like, I just, I personally.

03:11:49.740 Who is she talking about?

03:11:50.840 The Hulk?

03:11:52.400 I know, I know, I know.

03:11:54.040 Well, again, I just brought up like the very first thing that has happened.

03:11:59.740 However, I love the pizza and sex analogy.

03:12:02.380 That is an excellent analogy.

03:12:04.680 I appreciate that.

03:12:04.920 But I just don't think that inanimate objects and people should be compared in the same way.

03:12:11.320 That's it.

03:12:13.500 Okay.

03:12:13.940 Okay.

03:12:14.180 All right.

03:12:15.340 Your tongue, is it like you're triggered over the.

03:12:19.720 Yes, I'm so triggered.

03:12:21.500 I'm just so angry.

03:12:22.420 I'm jumping out of my.

03:12:24.760 I just look, I don't know when it comes to the whole sex thing.

03:12:28.160 It's just like.

03:12:32.400 Really?

03:12:33.280 You know what I mean?

03:12:34.400 But that's for a guy's perspective, right?

03:12:37.040 Because for women, it's really easy to have really terrible sex.

03:12:40.120 Or to experience really terrible sex.

03:12:41.600 But that's the point.

03:12:42.440 No, that's the point I'm trying to make though.

03:12:44.440 It's like, like as a guy, y'all are, there's all kinds of different responses in women.

03:12:53.420 Whereas men have a much more uniform.

03:12:57.780 There's far less, I think, variety when it comes to the male sexual response.

03:13:02.720 Whereas for women, y'all are all over the fucking place.

03:13:08.920 You know what I mean?

03:13:10.440 I don't know.

03:13:10.940 Q, you ever had a girl who.

03:13:12.480 I don't know.

03:13:13.160 Take a biology class.

03:13:14.700 Earmuffs.

03:13:15.280 Andrew, earmuffs.

03:13:16.440 All right.

03:13:17.440 Q, you ever had a girl who.

03:13:19.740 Some of these girls like.

03:13:22.380 Oh, I didn't finish Andrew.

03:13:24.180 Go ahead.

03:13:24.640 Go ahead.

03:13:24.880 Go ahead.

03:13:25.080 They'll like come within like five seconds and then they can have like multiple orgasms.

03:13:31.120 Multiple orgasms.

03:13:32.700 Yes.

03:13:33.460 Not the five second thing?

03:13:34.660 Not the five seconds.

03:13:35.300 You got to work on that, buddy.

03:13:36.140 Sorry.

03:13:36.600 Not the five seconds.

03:13:38.140 The most, the quickest I've did it is probably three minutes.

03:13:41.780 Three minutes?

03:13:42.720 Probably three minutes.

03:13:43.580 Sorry to hear that.

03:13:44.060 Probably three minutes.

03:13:45.000 Yeah.

03:13:45.540 But no, women are complex, especially when it come down there.

03:13:47.840 It's mechanical.

03:13:49.120 What I say last time, bite it, rub it, scratch it, lick it, bop it, twist it, pull it.

03:13:54.860 I thought I had them.

03:13:56.200 Yeah.

03:13:56.980 I don't know about the pulling.

03:13:57.960 Yeah.

03:13:59.100 We, different women like different things.

03:14:02.300 True.

03:14:02.700 Yeah.

03:14:02.880 Y'all got all kinds of kinks and all kinds of shit going on.

03:14:06.280 So.

03:14:06.340 I like that analogy.

03:14:07.580 Here's the example I think I've given before.

03:14:10.400 Finally an analogy that you like.

03:14:12.800 Here's the example that I've given before on this.

03:14:15.000 So if using, I guess, this pillow princess term.

03:14:19.100 So I'd say 95% of men could reach climax if the girl, the girl could just be doing nothing.

03:14:29.020 95% of men can bring themselves to climax through sex.

03:14:33.340 But if the guy's just there laying there doing nothing and he has a stiffy and you got to

03:14:39.160 get on top and ride him or whatever position you want, but he's not doing anything for,

03:14:44.920 I don't even know what the percentage is.

03:14:47.260 I don't know.

03:14:47.600 Could any girl here make themselves come up?

03:14:49.680 Maybe, maybe.

03:14:50.680 It's low.

03:14:51.880 I'd say most, most women could not.

03:14:54.100 Yeah.

03:14:54.260 Most women can't.

03:14:55.400 Statistically it's low.

03:14:56.340 Was basically just a dildo.

03:14:58.600 Mm-hmm.

03:14:59.820 Couldn't do it.

03:15:01.180 You know what I mean?

03:15:02.480 Yeah.

03:15:02.700 Like I'm saying yes, but I'm thinking about like having like a toy as assistance, but

03:15:06.620 just low.

03:15:07.080 No.

03:15:07.660 Yeah.

03:15:08.060 It's very difficult.

03:15:08.760 It's difficult, right?

03:15:09.920 Mm-hmm.

03:15:11.320 Anyways.

03:15:11.980 That's also why as a guy, if you can fuck, you got her.

03:15:17.020 You got her.

03:15:18.220 You got to know how to fuck.

03:15:19.680 True.

03:15:20.360 It's true.

03:15:24.580 Anyways.

03:15:25.080 Good talk.

03:15:25.380 What if, what if Q, like me, you're hung like a stud hamster?

03:15:28.980 Like what, what, what would you give the advice to a guy like that?

03:15:31.900 What would you say to him?

03:15:33.260 You say, what have you hung?

03:15:34.720 Like a, like a stud hamster.

03:15:36.400 Like a hamster.

03:15:38.020 How big?

03:15:38.580 Mm-hmm.

03:15:40.780 Yeah.

03:15:41.200 I mean, what advice would you give to a man like that?

03:15:43.600 Well, I mean, you might be shit out of luck.

03:15:46.740 I don't, I don't, I don't.

03:15:47.180 Fuck, man.

03:15:47.760 You have to, yeah, you might have to get some, some alternative methods going on.

03:15:51.760 I always knew my wife was a benevolent woman.

03:15:53.720 What the fuck?

03:15:55.380 Andrew, bro.

03:15:56.680 First off, first off, Andrew is, this guy's got a fucking tree stump down there, okay?

03:16:05.260 He's just joking.

03:16:06.500 This fucking guy.

03:16:08.840 Andrew, come on.

03:16:09.780 Don't be so, uh, humility, okay?

03:16:12.440 All right?

03:16:12.820 Yeah, we, we, we, we, we, we know you lying, Andrew.

03:16:15.680 We know why Rachel loves you so much.

03:16:18.340 This guy's got a Smith and Wesson fucking shotgun.

03:16:20.800 Because of my awesome personality, Q.

03:16:23.020 Oh, okay.

03:16:24.480 Wait, can we pull up young, young Andrew?

03:16:27.340 I saw him yesterday.

03:16:28.500 It's crazy.

03:16:29.080 Hey, do you girls ever look at a guy, you ever look at a guy, and you're like, he's probably

03:16:34.800 got the big dick.

03:16:35.360 Oh, my God, who's that?

03:16:38.400 That's Andrew.

03:16:39.700 Wow.

03:16:40.460 I don't know, I look at young Andrew, this is so gay.

03:16:43.060 I bet you should just say no now.

03:16:44.440 And I'm like, he has a giant penis.

03:16:48.080 Like, that's what I think, bro.

03:16:50.220 Okay, oh, my God.

03:16:51.080 Look, look, like Adam 22 vibes low-key.

03:16:53.460 A hundred pounds, okay?

03:16:54.780 That's, that's the only reason I look as bad as I do right now, okay?

03:16:57.860 It's, it's not my fault.

03:17:02.160 Oh, let's get into, uh, some of the other show notes here.

03:17:04.960 So, uh, let's see.

03:17:05.900 We have Kendra.

03:17:07.100 Kendra.

03:17:08.740 Uh, let's see.

03:17:10.380 Uh, I don't know.

03:17:12.740 Uh, the 14-year-old one, I don't think I want to talk about.

03:17:16.360 Probably not.

03:17:16.980 But, um, uh, you said, why do men suck at communication and not want to commit to women anymore?

03:17:24.700 Yeah, I feel like a lot of men don't, like, straight up say, like, what they want.

03:17:29.960 Yeah, I, I, I actually think, um, I actually think I would agree with you.

03:17:34.420 Oh, my God, I agreed with another person on the panel.

03:17:36.840 Oh, no.

03:17:37.780 She's not here to witness this phenomenon.

03:17:39.280 Which never happens, happened again.

03:17:42.460 I actually think I would agree with you here.

03:17:44.760 Uh, but I think there's actually good reasons, um, that men don't want to be in committed relationships

03:17:50.280 with women, um, and therefore really don't tell them what they want.

03:17:54.540 So I think that women don't want to hear that a man doesn't want to be in a committed relationship.

03:17:58.060 We can agree to that, right?

03:17:59.280 So, so they have an incentive to lie, right?

03:18:03.080 And say, but I do want to be in a committed relationship, even if they really don't want

03:18:08.260 to be in a committed relationship.

03:18:09.420 And when it comes to marriage in, in modernity, it's a really bad deal for men.

03:18:15.260 And I think that, um, increasingly men are going to continue to check out of it.

03:18:19.520 So I think that they actually have a lot of incentives to not be open and honest with

03:18:23.920 women about what they want in a relationship.

03:18:26.700 What, what are those reasons, Andrew?

03:18:29.280 Uh, well, I think that, um, I think that if they were open and honest and said, well,

03:18:35.620 I would like to only have sex with you for the rest of my life, but never, never, ever

03:18:40.060 in a million years get married to you.

03:18:42.660 Um, I'd like to have babies with you, but never get married to you.

03:18:46.460 I would like to never give you this kind of social safety net, which puts me at risk.

03:18:51.220 Um, I, I, I think that that's why they're, they're, they're somewhat evasive on this topic.

03:18:56.000 Yeah.

03:18:57.100 Yeah.

03:18:57.620 Yeah.

03:18:57.840 What do you think you know?

03:18:59.120 I, I agree.

03:18:59.880 That's, I knew you, I knew you was going to answer.

03:19:01.520 He's going to hit the nail on the head.

03:19:03.020 Also, um, of course with America being more secular and the guys who typically get women,

03:19:09.900 they don't want to sleep with one woman.

03:19:11.460 So if they can tell a woman that they only want her and that they're not going to sleep

03:19:16.140 around, then, you know, they'll lie and say that and still sleep around.

03:19:20.860 So, well, let me ask the panel the question.

03:19:22.480 Let's, uh, let's, uh, let's get everybody in for some engagement real quick.

03:19:25.420 Uh, starting with, and I'm sorry if I get any of your names wrong.

03:19:29.380 I did write them down as we were going Savannah.

03:19:31.580 Is that, that's your name, right?

03:19:33.140 Yeah.

03:19:33.260 Uh, let's start with you.

03:19:35.040 So here's the question in modernity, uh, secularist, meaning non-religious, what would actually

03:19:42.220 be a good reason for men who are not religious and women who are not religious to get married?

03:19:48.160 What would be the, why would a man actually want to do that?

03:19:51.500 What would be a good reason?

03:19:52.540 Um, maybe if he really wants to stick with her for the rest of her life and like create

03:19:57.020 a family, I feel like that would be a good reason.

03:19:59.940 You would agree though that, um, that he could do that with her absent marriage.

03:20:05.020 With her absent marriage?

03:20:06.560 Yeah.

03:20:06.880 He could do the same thing, stay with her his entire life, but never get married to her,

03:20:10.460 right?

03:20:10.560 Yeah, true.

03:20:12.320 Yeah.

03:20:12.880 So moving to the, to the next, um, Gabby, what would be a good reason, do you think, for

03:20:18.160 a secularist man to get married?

03:20:19.840 Um, so this question kind of confuses me because I, well, from the, well, I can explain if you

03:20:30.680 want.

03:20:31.120 So from a religious standpoint, it's understandable, at least to me, why religious people would

03:20:36.000 want to get married.

03:20:36.920 They're commanded to do so before they have sex.

03:20:39.900 They're commanded to do so divinely before they engage in any sort of, um, you know, uh,

03:20:47.000 having children, sexual intercourse, things like this.

03:20:49.840 So I can understand why they would want to get married.

03:20:53.340 I don't actually understand why a non-religious man would actually want to get married though.

03:20:59.000 And so that's, that's my question.

03:21:00.800 Wait, Andrew, I promise you we will get to this, but we're going to do something we've

03:21:05.640 never done.

03:21:06.240 We're doing a pizza party.

03:21:08.900 Uh, wait, do you guys, wait, any, you got to get on, you got to get on the plane right

03:21:14.180 now?

03:21:14.500 I'm broken.

03:21:15.260 This is some bullshit.

03:21:16.740 I'm out of it.

03:21:17.360 I'm out of here.

03:21:18.140 I got no pizza.

03:21:18.920 He never ordered me pizza.

03:21:20.500 Not even once.

03:21:21.600 Next time, bro, you were supposed to be here.

03:21:23.500 You were supposed to be here.

03:21:24.640 That's true.

03:21:25.200 I was.

03:21:27.460 Wait, does anybody not want pizza before we?

03:21:30.060 He can't eat pork.

03:21:31.020 He can't eat pork.

03:21:31.780 Yeah.

03:21:32.120 Yeah.

03:21:32.260 No.

03:21:32.660 Okay.

03:21:32.980 Sorry.

03:21:33.300 Sorry.

03:21:33.580 Sorry.

03:21:33.820 Sorry.

03:21:34.100 Sorry.

03:21:35.120 I don't want any either.

03:21:36.560 You don't want any?

03:21:37.340 No.

03:21:38.300 Yes.

03:21:38.880 Pizza.

03:21:39.300 Good for you guys.

03:21:39.820 Is he testing the theory?

03:21:40.760 Yes.

03:21:41.000 Is that why he bought it?

03:21:42.080 The every pizza tastes good.

03:21:43.760 We're doing, yeah.

03:21:45.220 I mean, that's why.

03:21:46.360 I saw it.

03:21:47.000 And I was like, he's brought a slice.

03:21:49.180 Like.

03:21:49.260 That's perfect.

03:21:49.960 That's matching plates.

03:21:51.420 Also, while we do the pizza party, we're actually going to do something new also.

03:21:56.220 And there's not even pineapple.

03:21:57.880 It's the perfect pizza.

03:21:59.120 There's no pineapple at all.

03:22:00.700 Oh, you lost me with that one, Andrew.

03:22:02.960 Wait, you like pineapple on your pizza?

03:22:04.740 No, no, I don't.

03:22:05.600 It's good.

03:22:06.540 No, no, I hate it.

03:22:07.700 Oh, are we on the same team?

03:22:09.580 Oh, okay.

03:22:09.980 Okay.

03:22:10.240 We're on the same side.

03:22:10.700 It's the perfect pizza.

03:22:12.080 It's the perfect pizza.

03:22:13.240 So, what we're going to actually do, just while, like, just because it's going to be super disruptive.

03:22:17.180 This is the first time testing this.

03:22:18.560 We might never do it again.

03:22:20.340 I meant to do it last show, but they didn't deserve that shit.

03:22:24.900 That was a rough one.

03:22:26.960 We're going to do a roast session.

03:22:30.440 Inter.

03:22:31.640 What's the fucking name?

03:22:32.820 Intermediate?

03:22:34.600 Intermediate.

03:22:35.640 Intermediate roast session.

03:22:36.640 We're going to do a roast session.

03:22:37.860 While everybody can eat and recharge, right?

03:22:39.880 Oh, roast.

03:22:40.380 We're going to do a roast session while we eat the pizza.

03:22:43.200 I'm going to bring the TTS down to 20.

03:22:45.520 Then we'll bump it back up, and then we'll do a roast session at the end.

03:22:49.360 So, Andrew, I don't know if you want to grab, I don't know if Rachel can go, like, make you some peach cobbler or something.

03:22:54.140 I have a, she can read my mind, so she's already making the pizza.

03:22:57.320 Oh, bro, you fucking retard, bro.

03:23:00.140 Holy shit.

03:23:00.520 I'm sorry.

03:23:02.160 I'm clumsy.

03:23:03.260 Not a retard.

03:23:04.360 Thank you.

03:23:04.900 How are you going to fucking fumble, fucking party fouls, fucking pizza?

03:23:10.860 I was going to pass it on.

03:23:12.980 I'm clumsy.

03:23:14.000 How do you fuck that up?

03:23:14.980 I'm clumsy.

03:23:16.460 I'm very clumsy.

03:23:17.200 You can't fuck it up.

03:23:18.000 I got a concussion a few weeks ago, so just getting into my car.

03:23:23.320 I'm very clumsy, so this is normal.

03:23:24.560 You had a concussion?

03:23:25.820 You can't eat a piece of pizza because you had a concussion?

03:23:28.320 No, I was trying to pass it on.

03:23:30.180 I'm clumsy.

03:23:30.340 To who, bro?

03:23:31.980 I already got a pizza, bro.

03:23:33.480 What do I got?

03:23:34.300 Goddamn, bro.

03:23:37.200 Okay, so pizza party.

03:23:40.220 We need the chat to spam.

03:23:42.380 Chat spam pizza emojis.

03:23:45.140 Oh, I should have had Madison, like, get me a hot dog, you know, for.

03:23:48.920 Anyways, just like, you know.

03:23:51.520 Oh, my neck.

03:23:52.660 A little Costco.

03:23:54.380 A little Costco hot dog.

03:23:55.740 Pizza and a champagne pot.

03:23:57.360 Boy, I'm lucky.

03:23:57.820 Yeah, so this is, yeah, lucky as hell.

03:24:01.220 So, okay, guys.

03:24:02.360 It's the roast session.

03:24:04.740 So, I don't know.

03:24:06.060 Hold on.

03:24:06.340 Let me get this all set up.

03:24:07.860 You guys, if you want, you can start eating.

03:24:09.460 Go ahead.

03:24:09.720 Don't wait for me.

03:24:10.500 I didn't know who was going to toast the pizzas away.

03:24:13.160 I'm pretty sure we're the one getting roasted, right?

03:24:16.780 Oh, really?

03:24:17.480 Oh, wow.

03:24:18.000 That's wonderful.

03:24:18.660 Let's see.

03:24:19.280 Pizza.

03:24:19.860 I'll do a little thing.

03:24:21.040 If you guys want.

03:24:21.840 Guys, roast session.

03:24:23.300 We'll do a little, I don't know, 10-minute roast session.

03:24:25.940 First, first, first, first.

03:24:27.900 We'll do $19.99 TTS.

03:24:32.360 During the pizza.

03:24:33.900 Wait, they're going to roast us?

03:24:35.380 Yeah, you can roast us.

03:24:36.800 You can roast me.

03:24:37.700 You can roast Maddie.

03:24:38.480 You can roast Q.

03:24:41.600 Roast, roast, roast, roast.

03:24:43.320 All right.

03:24:44.560 Sad burrito donated $20.

03:24:46.820 Oh, bruv.

03:24:47.480 Brian, what are you doing this to me?

03:24:49.800 I got one.

03:24:50.140 Is it cause I got saggy?

03:24:52.540 Yes.

03:24:52.940 I, this is, uh, I'm cheating.

03:24:55.720 I'm cheating on you, burrito.

03:24:57.900 With a pizza?

03:24:58.900 Yeah.

03:24:59.320 I should have got, I should have asked for a hot dog, but I forgot.

03:25:04.400 So.

03:25:05.040 Wait, wait, what?

03:25:06.000 You should have asked for a hot dog?

03:25:07.860 Yeah.

03:25:08.260 Like, there's hot dogs, Andrew.

03:25:10.360 Oh.

03:25:11.040 Yeah.

03:25:11.440 Hot dog.

03:25:12.500 You like hot dogs, Andrew?

03:25:13.440 Would you have gotten a big hot dog, Brian?

03:25:15.580 Oh, the biggest.

03:25:17.380 It was big and, big and.

03:25:23.220 All right.

03:25:26.640 Where's it, where's it from?

03:25:27.780 Where's the pizza from?

03:25:30.440 Costco.

03:25:31.800 Oh, well, that sounds pretty good.

03:25:34.560 Probably pretty good.

03:25:38.640 As the roast come in, um, I'll still ask the question until they start coming in.

03:25:44.160 So, um, ah, she left.

03:25:47.380 Maddie, maybe I can ask you then.

03:25:49.620 Um, I'm sorry, you, you have to, you have to eat, or you don't get to eat while you answer

03:25:55.800 the question until a roast comes in, I guess.

03:25:58.200 Um, the question still is, what do you think the incentive would be for a secularist man to

03:26:02.820 get married, a non-religious man?

03:26:05.060 Me, Maddie?

03:26:06.520 Yeah.

03:26:06.940 Okay.

03:26:07.840 Um.

03:26:08.020 Unless there's another Maddie there.

03:26:09.380 There is, there is.

03:26:10.900 There is, oh, well, the, the, no, that's Maddie.

03:26:14.160 With a D, right?

03:26:16.080 They're, well, how do you spell your name?

03:26:17.920 M-A-D-Y.

03:26:19.060 M-A-D-I.

03:26:20.760 Yours is the same?

03:26:23.240 Mine's Y.

03:26:24.360 Mine's I.

03:26:26.300 Oh, okay.

03:26:27.200 Yeah, yeah.

03:26:27.720 You, Maddie.

03:26:28.660 Me, Maddie.

03:26:29.380 Okay.

03:26:29.820 Yeah, you, Maddie.

03:26:30.360 I don't, I don't, I don't think there's really a reason for a non, a good, good reason for

03:26:36.640 a non-religious man.

03:26:37.420 General Jackripper donated $20.

03:26:39.480 I learned one thing tonight.

03:26:41.320 Many people do not understand the meaning of the word depreciation.

03:26:47.500 Even, okay, even the super chat, in the time it took for it to come through, has depreciated.

03:26:54.260 That's okay.

03:26:54.600 Chair one, why is it so hard for you to read?

03:26:59.420 Chair one, I think that's it.

03:27:00.700 Oh, yeah, I don't know.

03:27:02.540 I guess I have a hard time reading.

03:27:04.400 She reads.

03:27:05.280 I think it's like the white letterings.

03:27:06.040 She reads it up.

03:27:07.180 Ah, she was kind of nervous.

03:27:08.460 Okay, guys.

03:27:09.120 Let her some slack.

03:27:09.480 Andrew, please comment on God asking Hosea to marry a prostitute in the Old Testament.

03:27:18.460 Wait, what?

03:27:20.000 It's for Andrew.

03:27:20.660 Oh, are we back?

03:27:21.840 Dirty underscore, sir, donated $20 and one cent.

03:27:25.740 Bricks and Savi reheated Lil' Caesars.

03:27:28.740 Keep them 304s humble.

03:27:33.440 Hey, look.

03:27:34.560 By the way, he's talking about, um...

03:27:36.720 He's talking about a command which is broken.

03:27:37.520 Teleutronic donated $20.

03:27:39.440 The car analogy might be a bad idea.

03:27:42.200 Cars always come with a few miles because they are test-driven by the factory.

03:27:46.960 That's just sick.

03:27:48.300 I guess you could call the factory and place a special order.

03:27:53.260 Amanda the Med Tech donated $20.

03:27:56.280 Brian, how dare you cheat on the burritos.

03:27:59.420 This is why your dumpy has gotten so big.

03:28:03.040 It's the pizza.

03:28:05.240 Hey, you know, it is what it is.

03:28:08.660 Max K donated $20.

03:28:10.380 Somebody smacked that out of Fatty's hand.

03:28:14.240 Man up and put down the fork, you slob.

03:28:17.700 Who do they mean?

03:28:21.440 Who's using a fork?

03:28:23.500 Derp derp donated $20.

03:28:26.060 Brian, can you please stop lacking when it comes to uploading the panel's instas?

03:28:30.820 Oh, yeah, I'm going to add it in my bag.

03:28:34.720 I'm going to add it.

03:28:35.120 Who else did he want?

03:28:38.980 Oh, somebody read.

03:28:39.860 Can you read this?

03:28:41.140 Oh, uh, someone please, please, for the love of God, explain in more depth the purpose of an analogy.

03:28:48.180 P.S.

03:28:48.560 Brian, F.U.

03:28:50.660 My can't, Canadian?

03:28:52.880 Does that say, I can't read.

03:28:53.660 Dylan Joe donated $20.

03:28:54.780 I can't read.

03:28:55.960 Somebody else read.

03:28:56.720 Speaking of Earl, Madison, great job, Dot, respect to you for interviewing on the front line.

03:29:02.840 Good thing you wear that helmet, Dot, it's no man's land out there.

03:29:06.600 Might I suggest a trick-or-treat Earl for Halloween.

03:29:12.760 Brave Arruji donated $50.

03:29:15.320 It is what it.

03:29:17.100 It is what it is.

03:29:17.920 It is what it.

03:29:20.660 That's beautiful, Red.

03:29:21.740 Thank you, man.

03:29:23.540 It is what it.

03:29:25.060 It should be on the plaque.

03:29:26.840 That's some Shakespeare.

03:29:27.780 The Flame Alchemist donated $20.

03:29:30.740 Andrew, how long did it take for you to become this punctual, concise, and a master debater?

03:29:37.000 Also, big W for you staying up till 3 a.m.

03:29:40.980 As a fellow me gander, I know the pain.

03:29:43.400 Can I add you on Steam?

03:29:46.220 Yes.

03:29:46.700 Yes, you can.

03:29:47.780 Just Gerald donated $21.

03:29:48.960 Red shirt.

03:29:51.120 Why do you wear the watch on the outside of the shirt?

03:29:53.920 Got it.

03:29:54.240 Red glasses.

03:29:55.380 Do you even know where you are right now, you oblivious throat goat?

03:29:59.920 Wait, what?

03:30:01.520 Up on the podcast, what?

03:30:02.840 What?

03:30:02.860 Dirty boys donated $20.

03:30:05.340 Chair four, I guess you only try for the thumbnail picture and not the panel.

03:30:10.080 Chair six, your glasses are clashing hard with your sweater, like an autistic Velma.

03:30:14.780 Thank you.

03:30:16.520 I didn't expect to be on, so...

03:30:20.060 Don't let Russian feminists fool you being clumsy.

03:30:23.360 She got a concussion from being donkey punched.

03:30:26.460 Well, actually, I got a concussion going into the car because I'm just clumsy, but whatever you want to think.

03:30:32.820 I love this pizza party.

03:30:38.320 Brian went soft.

03:30:39.180 His ass is still fatter than mine, though.

03:30:43.620 Dumpy.

03:30:45.360 Yep.

03:30:47.540 Money bag underscore donated $20.

03:30:50.780 Are the girls' slices smaller than Brian's?

03:30:53.960 Yeah, Brian.

03:30:54.680 Did you give them smaller slices?

03:30:56.140 Yeah.

03:30:56.340 Yes, and I took two pieces.

03:31:01.700 I mean, that's a big W, actually.

03:31:02.820 Four donated $20.

03:31:05.060 Chair number six, I'm a car guy, and I will always pick the low-mileage car just like my women.

03:31:10.520 Don't be mad cause you high mileage.

03:31:13.120 Brian, Andrew, and Q, I appreciate what you guys do.

03:31:17.680 Low mileage and zero mileage is different.

03:31:19.840 $21.

03:31:21.700 Brian, drop the pizza and get on the Stairmaster fatty.

03:31:26.340 I'm on it, bro.

03:31:29.580 By the way, I always appreciate panels with Q because I end up arguing a bit with Q, too, which I think is good.

03:31:36.340 I love it.

03:31:38.020 I love it.

03:31:43.260 I'm all okay.

03:31:48.820 Damn, y'all don't eat.

03:31:50.620 You're not going to finish, or what?

03:31:51.760 What's up?

03:31:52.120 I, like, get hungry, and then, like, I take a break, and then I may get hungry in a bit.

03:31:56.820 That's it?

03:31:57.180 That's all you're going to eat?

03:31:57.900 I don't really feel like eating on here.

03:31:59.740 Damn, but why you asked for a slice of pizza, then?

03:32:01.540 I don't know.

03:32:02.480 Can I eat it?

03:32:02.880 I felt bad.

03:32:03.400 Yeah, you can eat it.

03:32:04.140 Yeah, please take it.

03:32:04.980 Are you sure?

03:32:05.460 Yeah, of course.

03:32:05.820 Oh, damn, okay.

03:32:06.840 She's down for the cost.

03:32:08.300 We can't let good Costco pizza go to waste, you know what I mean?

03:32:11.300 Can't let the cheese go to waste?

03:32:13.420 It's delicious.

03:32:13.980 Just later, don't go on Twitter and be like, and they starved us, and they wouldn't give

03:32:18.600 us any water, and they wouldn't let us have anything, and they kept us there for six

03:32:24.320 hours, oh, Lord.

03:32:26.160 Just, as long as you don't do that, I think we're in good shape.

03:32:29.820 Oh, yeah.

03:32:31.260 Andrew, that sounds like the average woman in my church.

03:32:35.340 Guy from Rio donated $20.

03:32:38.140 Andrew, stop smoking.

03:32:40.280 We need you to live well to your hundreds.

03:32:42.720 Got a quit date.

03:32:43.620 My quit date is Halloween this year.

03:32:45.980 Let's go.

03:32:46.480 And Halloween is my birthday, so that's kind of fun.

03:32:50.160 Mr. Zero, my quit date is no longer Halloween of this year.

03:32:53.560 Hey, Turk.

03:32:54.760 Hope you and everyone are having a good night.

03:32:57.340 D.

03:32:58.360 Hi, Zero.

03:32:59.060 My quit date is the day after Halloween, because I'm just not going to share that day with you.

03:33:04.460 There's no way.

03:33:05.320 Captain Awesome donated $20.

03:33:07.620 Thank you, Captain.

03:33:08.140 Brian and Q, you guys are awesome.

03:33:11.080 Appreciate that.

03:33:11.460 Andrew, you're a legend and the fucking goat.

03:33:13.780 Been a fan of the pot for a while and found Andrew before he got big.

03:33:18.380 P.S.

03:33:18.760 Cars are intricate just like women.

03:33:22.500 Moneybag underscore O donated $20.

03:33:25.340 I wish I was on the other show with the so-called witch.

03:33:28.720 I had to bring it up.

03:33:30.560 Was she not ridiculous?

03:33:32.400 She can take her magic conch shell and shove it.

03:33:34.960 Which witch?

03:33:38.940 The one from last show, I think.

03:33:40.280 From Sunday.

03:33:40.660 Deep throat burrito donated $20.

03:33:43.380 Brian, why pretend you like pizza when you know burrito is your go to filling all your

03:33:48.620 three holes to fill worse than 403 whore dogs?

03:33:52.820 No homo.

03:33:53.980 I had a burrito today.

03:33:55.300 Jacob donated $20.

03:33:56.680 I had a burrito for lunch.

03:33:57.680 Brian, back up from the mic a little bit, please.

03:34:00.020 I'm here to watch a podcast, not get my ear destroyed also.

03:34:03.800 Hey, Turk.

03:34:05.240 Oh, dude.

03:34:06.320 Hey, Jacob.

03:34:07.340 Come on.

03:34:09.360 It's ASMR.

03:34:10.500 Layla donated $20.

03:34:12.700 Muslim woman here.

03:34:14.500 Beautiful panel tonight.

03:34:16.460 Hello, ladies.

03:34:17.860 I will never understand women choosing a bear.

03:34:20.660 If we walk a moral and modest path, we won't encounter a bear or man that acts like a bear.

03:34:27.080 Well, I'll never understand women choosing as long.

03:34:28.960 How about them tigers, Andrew?

03:34:33.560 How about them?

03:34:38.160 How about them tigers?

03:34:42.820 Dylan Joe donated $20.

03:34:45.340 I'll roast that Reddit post on ratings.

03:34:48.640 Ana Duar Mas is a 10.

03:34:50.500 Still wouldn't simp to a 10, though.

03:34:52.840 Dominating is a man's job.

03:34:55.000 Turks say hole.

03:34:56.760 What is it?

03:34:57.640 Hole?

03:34:57.980 Ryan's dietitian donated $20.

03:35:00.720 Yo, what's up?

03:35:01.300 My sprinkler goes like this.

03:35:03.880 Thank you.

03:35:06.400 And comes back like this.

03:35:08.960 Any updates on Mason?

03:35:11.680 Oh, we can pull that up.

03:35:13.040 Tim Bird donated $20.

03:35:15.520 Thank God for that one chick who egged some guy to cut his balls off.

03:35:19.620 I would have never found y'all if not for her.

03:35:22.280 Wait, what?

03:35:22.980 Oh, Kayla?

03:35:25.840 Or what was her name?

03:35:27.900 Tim underscore E donated $20.

03:35:30.520 Can we quickly ask why women hate the car analogy, please?

03:35:34.600 It is always the same rage when that analogy is made.

03:35:37.980 I think it's just me.

03:35:38.920 I don't think it's all the women here.

03:35:42.840 Virgin Slayer donated $20.

03:35:44.820 Andrew, I took your course, and now I can even master debate when they try to come draft me for World War III.

03:35:52.720 Thank you, brother.

03:35:54.780 You're welcome.

03:35:55.720 By the way, this was done in, um...

03:35:58.340 Michigan Christian donated $20.

03:36:00.940 I'll pull it up.

03:36:01.440 Shout out to J.D. Vance for winning his debate against Vance and the moderators.

03:36:06.380 Oh, shit.

03:36:06.760 CBS sucks donkey balls.

03:36:09.400 Since we know women love voting Democrats, which of you degenerates will be voting for Kamala.

03:36:15.240 Show of hands.

03:36:18.380 Not a roast.

03:36:19.320 It just can finally afford a TTS little big fans, Brian.

03:36:22.340 And Andrew, keep doing what you do, celebrating winning your sobriety today, and glad I get to share with y'all.

03:36:27.020 God, it's good.

03:36:27.460 Thank you, KP.

03:36:28.420 Appreciate it, man.

03:36:29.240 Congrats.

03:36:29.880 Congrats on that.

03:36:31.240 Dirty Brian and the boys donated $20.

03:36:34.640 You see how Brian chooses a certain look for his employees behind him?

03:36:39.420 It reminds him of the good times with the lady boys in Thailand.

03:36:43.300 He can't get enough, and he hates it.

03:36:45.220 For both?

03:36:46.260 Excellent.

03:36:49.060 Oh, me so horny.

03:36:50.660 Me love you long time.

03:36:53.680 Bear in the Woods donated $21.

03:36:55.880 I'm waiting, Brian.

03:36:58.900 Send the idiots.

03:37:00.000 Wait, send the idiots?

03:37:01.680 Oh, the bears.

03:37:02.140 It's the bear, yeah.

03:37:03.320 All the women who pick bear.

03:37:06.860 Can we pull up that meme with Kyle?

03:37:08.800 Moneybag underscore O donated $20.

03:37:11.220 You have a strange hate toward Islam, Andrew.

03:37:15.320 I think you're a great debater and really enjoy most points you make, but the insults are distasteful.

03:37:21.500 All love you, scumbag.

03:37:23.620 Listen.

03:37:24.000 Brian, you've got to pause it.

03:37:26.120 I'll pause it.

03:37:26.820 I'll pause it.

03:37:27.440 I think.

03:37:29.320 Wow.

03:37:31.000 Go ahead, Andrew.

03:37:31.680 I just want to respond to this so that you understand the Christian view on this.

03:37:35.700 I have Muslims who are friends, and I have Muslims I talk to in DMs all the time.

03:37:39.420 But I need to, just so that you understand, every time you deny the divinity of Christ, even though you've been given the message, for me, that's like you're killing Christ over and over and over again.

03:37:52.400 And this is why I argue so incessantly with Muslims.

03:37:56.500 I'm an Orthodox Christian, and that's never going to change.

03:37:59.200 You could never convert me under all the tortures of the world.

03:38:02.860 It would never happen.

03:38:04.080 Anyway, thanks, Brian.

03:38:05.260 Have you always been Orthodox?

03:38:06.740 Captain Awesome donated $20.

03:38:10.060 I'd take an air over a woman.

03:38:12.200 Women kill you slowly and drain your life energy without giving you sex.

03:38:16.900 All right, guys.

03:38:17.780 Captain Awesome, thank you.

03:38:18.820 That's going to conclude the intermission intermediary roast.

03:38:24.220 Yeah, we can't do a few more?

03:38:25.460 They're great.

03:38:26.200 They're great, Brian.

03:38:27.420 If there's a couple stragglers and they come in, sure.

03:38:30.520 But we'll reopen it at the end of the show.

03:38:33.620 But I want to get back to, get through the everything.

03:38:37.720 But I don't know if yours was that okay.

03:38:41.000 I don't know.

03:38:42.000 Was it a waste of time?

03:38:44.620 I don't know.

03:38:45.380 Dylan Joe donated $20.

03:38:47.340 I'll allow these next three.

03:38:49.040 I'd love to see a panel of all bears.

03:38:49.940 Just a heads up, guys.

03:38:52.180 Yo, Dylan, thank you.

03:38:53.120 Just a heads up.

03:38:53.760 TTS is now back to $200.

03:38:55.800 If there's a couple stragglers, you know, we'll let them come through.

03:38:58.900 But that concludes the pizza roast session.

03:39:00.960 Dirty underscore basso donated $20.

03:39:03.620 Can we update the bear versus man question from now on to meeting a random man versus polar bear,

03:39:09.600 knowing that the polar bear is only carnivorous and actively hunt humans?

03:39:13.720 That's not a bad idea.

03:39:14.780 What about silverback gorilla, though?

03:39:16.500 Would you rather come across a man in the forest or a silverback gorilla?

03:39:24.260 A man.

03:39:24.660 Moneybag underscore O donated $20.

03:39:29.100 There's no compulsion in religion, so no one that's a true Muslim would want to convert you.

03:39:34.220 We respect your decisions, Andrew.

03:39:36.420 That's bullshit.

03:39:37.580 That's bullshit lies.

03:39:39.200 Can I make a comment?

03:39:40.100 I don't want to hear it.

03:39:40.400 It's fucking bullshit lies.

03:39:42.360 I'm actually Muslim, but I respect every religion there is.

03:39:46.560 I don't think I'd want to convert anybody.

03:39:48.300 I believe that everyone can believe what they want to believe.

03:39:50.920 Well, how come your profit grew?

03:39:52.320 Well, never mind.

03:39:53.680 Would you rather be in the woods with a random vintage car with zero miles or chair six?

03:39:59.240 Also, congrats KP on one year.

03:40:02.380 Proud of you, random person on the internet.

03:40:05.740 P.S.

03:40:06.600 Maddie, say pineapple.

03:40:08.560 Wait, who's KP?

03:40:10.080 KP is one of the anniversaries of you, our four.

03:40:13.300 He donated $20 to say thank you, Andrew, for one year.

03:40:16.020 Oh, the previous donator.

03:40:16.960 I thought there was somebody at the panel.

03:40:18.580 Okay, do you guys want to have the quick exchange on that, or I don't know.

03:40:23.060 Oh, what were you saying about your story?

03:40:24.620 How old was Aisha?

03:40:26.240 Oh, boy.

03:40:27.620 Sorry?

03:40:28.580 How old was Aisha?

03:40:30.600 Asia?

03:40:30.960 Aisha, that would be the wife of your prophet Muhammad.

03:40:37.020 Wait, I'm sorry, sorry.

03:40:37.860 Do you mind repeating the question?

03:40:39.040 How old was the wife of your prophet Muhammad?

03:40:42.360 I'm not sure.

03:40:43.900 Nine years old.

03:40:46.120 Okay.

03:40:46.420 He married her when she was nine years old.

03:40:48.900 Okay.

03:40:50.060 Nine.

03:40:51.000 Okay.

03:40:52.140 That's why, yeah, that just starts with my fundamental disagreements with Islam, and

03:40:58.460 it just goes up from there.

03:41:00.260 I don't know, but I think someone was saying that.

03:41:02.380 I think someone donated saying that we're not trying to convert you, and I was just trying

03:41:06.900 to say, I agree.

03:41:07.800 I don't think it's like Muslims are trying to convert anybody.

03:41:10.860 All right.

03:41:11.320 But everyone's allowed to believe what they want to believe.

03:41:12.500 All right.

03:41:13.020 I'll leave it there because it's a dating podcast.

03:41:15.740 Yeah, it is.

03:41:15.900 We don't want to get into theology.

03:41:17.560 I think that that's totally fair because it'll get brutal very quickly.

03:41:20.920 Of course.

03:41:21.240 I'm just going to leave it there.

03:41:22.680 We have JJ, Brian.

03:41:24.540 Well, I mean, I'll read them, but you guys should send these as TTS.

03:41:29.400 You look good.

03:41:30.080 You look like you lost 15 pounds.

03:41:31.440 Let me guess, no carbs.

03:41:33.860 I lost a couple pounds.

03:41:35.400 For the guys on the panel, how many of you would let your daughters go to a frat party

03:41:38.400 without a chaperone, still choose the bear?

03:41:40.420 Man, we can't do questions, really, for the super chats, but I appreciate men, although

03:41:48.220 I didn't really specify that it was Streamlabs.

03:41:49.880 So, what was the fucking question?

03:41:54.080 Would you let your daughter go to a frat party?

03:41:56.520 Without a chaperone.

03:41:57.940 Yeah.

03:41:58.080 Just show of hands.

03:41:59.440 Would you let your daughter go to a frat party without a chaperone?

03:42:02.140 To the men on the panel.

03:42:03.340 Oh, to the men on the panel?

03:42:04.380 Yeah.

03:42:04.860 I think they should.

03:42:05.720 Yeah.

03:42:05.980 I mean, I'm not.

03:42:06.640 My daughter.

03:42:08.240 My daughter wouldn't want to go to a frat party.

03:42:10.000 My daughter wouldn't go to college.

03:42:12.180 She wouldn't want.

03:42:13.040 I mean, I don't know.

03:42:13.700 Maybe she would.

03:42:17.660 Is he talking?

03:42:18.140 Maybe.

03:42:18.400 If I'm nice.

03:42:19.320 I don't know.

03:42:19.660 If I'm not.

03:42:20.340 I don't know.

03:42:21.920 All right.

03:42:22.560 And then, wait.

03:42:23.160 Other.

03:42:23.480 Oh, shit.

03:42:24.060 I don't know.

03:42:24.660 Is he on mute?

03:42:25.520 Has Andrew been talking this entire time?

03:42:28.460 Yo, Louise, things are gifted.

03:42:29.720 Ten memberships.

03:42:30.360 Appreciate it.

03:42:31.640 Okay.

03:42:32.360 Let me switch.

03:42:32.840 Well, this is dual streamed, and so I do talk to my chat occasionally.

03:42:38.000 I do tend to come back up on a donation to $20.

03:42:41.520 It's not BS.

03:42:42.540 She's sitting right there.

03:42:43.840 Ask her if she wants to force you.

03:42:47.640 Yeah, but Muslims can lie.

03:42:49.480 They can lie to the infidel.

03:42:50.860 They can lie to the infidel, and they lie to the infidel.

03:42:54.920 Did not mean for that to trigger twice.

03:42:57.520 We'll just put an end, though.

03:42:58.480 Money back.

03:42:58.980 Thank you for the don't know.

03:43:00.840 All right.

03:43:01.440 I'm not trying.

03:43:02.340 Again, I'm not trying to turn this into a religious debate, right?

03:43:06.400 It moved that direction specifically because of the nature of the super chat.

03:43:10.520 I don't have any problems with the young lady here.

03:43:12.280 She seems like she's very nice, right?

03:43:14.440 But that'll turn into, like, a brutal slugfest back and forth.

03:43:18.140 Neither one of us is wanting that, so we'll just leave it there.

03:43:21.480 See you.

03:43:22.200 All right, guys.

03:43:22.900 The TTS is back up to 200, but thank you to everybody who participated in the little roast session.

03:43:28.440 Thank you, guys.

03:43:29.340 Okay.

03:43:29.580 Andrew, the Bible allows blank sex between married couples?

03:43:36.800 I thought I changed it.

03:43:38.920 Not sure why it came through, but it should be switched back.

03:43:43.240 Not sure what that's about.

03:43:46.140 Okay.

03:43:47.800 Thank you.

03:43:48.640 Thank you.

03:43:49.140 Sorry, guys.

03:43:49.760 I'm just double-checking.

03:43:50.920 Oh, okay.

03:43:51.400 I see what happened.

03:43:52.280 Okay.

03:43:52.480 All right.

03:43:53.880 So let's get back into the pre-show notes.

03:43:56.900 I don't know if we fully finished off, Kendra.

03:43:59.020 You said, why do men suck at communication, not want to commit to women anymore?

03:44:04.500 Right?

03:44:06.640 Or no.

03:44:07.720 If I recall correctly, Andrew, I actually said we would table.

03:44:12.700 Before we get back to that, Andrew, you're in the middle of something, and I said we would table it.

03:44:18.680 Do you recall?

03:44:19.080 Yeah.

03:44:19.500 Yeah.

03:44:19.760 We were discussing secular marriage.

03:44:21.360 We actually stopped off with Maddie as the roast continued.

03:44:25.120 That's red shirt Maddie, not to be confused with employed by the whatever podcast Maddie.

03:44:30.080 I hope you don't get upset that I say red shirt Maddie, right?

03:44:34.120 It's just an easy way to distinguish.

03:44:35.700 Totally fine.

03:44:36.560 Okay, great.

03:44:37.320 So when we were discussing secular marriage, you were saying you don't really think that there's a good, compelling reason for a man who's non-religious to get married.

03:44:46.780 No, not necessarily, because there's just a ton of legalities that go into it.

03:44:50.680 You could play the argument of, oh, well, if you want to be with someone long-term committed and you don't plan on ever splitting up or divorcing, then why not get married?

03:45:02.600 But why get married?

03:45:04.540 I think, like, personally, me, I want to get married under God.

03:45:07.260 I'm a religious person.

03:45:08.160 I'm Christian.

03:45:09.000 And that's something that I would want, because I see it more as a union under God.

03:45:14.280 And then the paperwork comes, and then we're legally and financially bind.

03:45:17.560 But even if there's no paperwork, right, you consider this a sacrament, right?

03:45:23.460 I do consider it a sacrament, yes.

03:45:25.600 Okay.

03:45:26.680 Moving over to the next, I believe it's Kendra.

03:45:30.600 Is that right?

03:45:31.400 Yeah.

03:45:31.580 Can you think of a good reason why non-religious men should actually get married to women in modernity?

03:45:38.940 I think it goes both ways for, you know, making, like, sacrifices for each other.

03:45:44.940 I mean, I think that'd be the only way.

03:45:47.480 Like, you both sacrifice things, and...

03:45:51.220 Couldn't you both sacrifice the same things without getting married?

03:45:55.060 I mean, a sacrifice in marriage would also be legality in terms of money, finances.

03:46:01.880 Couldn't that be settled with a prenuptial agreement?

03:46:05.340 Yeah, but during the marriage, you still share the same, like, money.

03:46:08.720 Yeah, sure, but you could still share the same money if you weren't married, right?

03:46:13.300 Yeah, and that's the sacrifice.

03:46:15.620 Because you're legally...

03:46:16.520 I don't understand.

03:46:17.160 What's the sacrificial part?

03:46:18.920 Because you're legally bound, and, like, when you're not married, you're not.

03:46:23.340 So, like, if I'm not married to somebody, I could have my own funds somewhere else.

03:46:26.540 We could still share the same money.

03:46:28.340 But, like, legally...

03:46:29.220 Yeah, so then what's the incentive to get married if you're not religious?

03:46:31.720 That's what I'm saying.

03:46:32.360 The only thing would be, like, to make those types of sacrifices.

03:46:34.680 But you could make those same type of sacrifices absent marriage if you're, you know, if you're a secularist.

03:46:40.900 That's what I don't understand.

03:46:42.840 I mean, yeah, but it wouldn't be the same sacrifice.

03:46:45.920 Like...

03:46:46.200 Why not?

03:46:46.780 Why wouldn't it be the same?

03:46:47.800 So, if you're not religious, then you say, okay, but we're going to share all of the money, right?

03:46:54.040 Exactly equally.

03:46:55.360 Now you're not legally bound, but you just do the same exact thing.

03:46:59.140 What would be...

03:47:00.280 I mean, there's other sacrifices.

03:47:00.880 It's the same sacrifice, right?

03:47:02.180 There's other sacrifices besides just money.

03:47:04.680 Well, what are the other ones?

03:47:05.940 I mean, legally, you can't, like, be with other people.

03:47:10.200 Like...

03:47:10.720 No, I think legally you can be with other people.

03:47:13.020 So, you could be married, for instance, and open your relationship up, and you would still very much be married.

03:47:17.780 You could step out of your marriage, and you would still very much be married by the state, for instance.

03:47:22.060 But, even that aside, if you were a secularist, meaning non-religious, and you didn't get married,

03:47:29.860 couldn't you just not step outside of that relationship anyway?

03:47:33.040 I mean, I guess.

03:47:36.280 Yeah.

03:47:37.300 Sure.

03:47:37.860 I'm not married, so I can't really speak on it.

03:47:39.720 I don't know all the details.

03:47:40.660 Like, well, like, for instance, right now, if you were in a relationship, you had a boyfriend,

03:47:46.340 and you both loved each other, but you weren't married, you would still consider it cheating if you slept with another woman, right?

03:47:53.380 Yeah.

03:47:54.260 It's easier to leave, though.

03:47:55.580 Yeah, sure, sure.

03:47:57.640 But, yeah, exactly.

03:47:58.800 It's easier to leave.

03:48:00.100 But you would still consider it cheating, even though you weren't married, correct?

03:48:03.980 Yeah, of course.

03:48:05.120 Yeah.

03:48:05.460 So, I mean, you could still have those same types of arrangements, even if you weren't married, right?

03:48:09.620 Yeah, but I feel like there's just more of a sacrifice being made.

03:48:12.320 Because, like, if you do cheat, and you do decide to separate, and you want to get divorced, there's a lot more that goes into that than just leaving.

03:48:20.240 Right.

03:48:20.600 So, from the perspective of the man, if he was going to get a worse end of the deal, generally, if that were to occur, if you were a man, and you weren't religious, wouldn't you just not want to get married?

03:48:33.420 Sure.

03:48:34.720 Yeah?

03:48:35.420 That makes sense to me.

03:48:36.360 Sure.

03:48:36.540 Okay.

03:48:37.000 Thank you.

03:48:37.380 I don't want to, I don't really want to get married.

03:48:38.220 Going over to Emma with the crazy mom, what's your answer here?

03:48:44.000 Can you think of a good, compelling reason?

03:48:46.180 I cannot.

03:48:47.680 You can't?

03:48:48.320 No reason.

03:48:48.900 No idea.

03:48:50.600 Uh, and then Alex?

03:48:52.740 So, the only reasons I personally think that there are to get married are if there's children involved, and, or if there's, um, two different countries kind of thing.

03:49:06.440 So, it's like, for one person to come over to the other country and stay within that country, a lot of times they have to be actually physically married in order to be, you know, to have, like, a, um, a visa.

03:49:20.600 To actually stay here.

03:49:21.600 Otherwise, it would be a lot more difficult.

03:49:24.280 So, overall, I don't think there's an actual reason, but those are the only two that I think that are valid.

03:49:30.360 So, the reasons that you would have would be, this benefits me in some way, um, but you would agree with me, for instance, even if we were talking about visa immigration, that people could get married who didn't love each other at all, just for the purposes of bringing that person over, right?

03:49:47.200 And this happens quite often.

03:49:48.460 So, I, I completely agree with you, um, but, again, we're just talking about the marriage part.

03:49:54.200 So, you know, that still, I think, counts.

03:49:57.860 Okay, thank you.

03:49:58.800 And then, uh, moving over to Turkish.

03:50:02.780 Um.

03:50:03.060 And, by the way, you said your name is Turkish Delight.

03:50:05.300 Did you get that from, um, The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe?

03:50:08.700 I'm just curious, right?

03:50:09.740 No, I didn't.

03:50:09.880 Did you get that from the movie?

03:50:11.520 I didn't.

03:50:12.140 I'm sorry.

03:50:12.580 I just like Turkish Delight.

03:50:13.320 That's the only time I ever heard of that candy, by the way, was, was in that movie, but I was just curious.

03:50:18.640 I don't even know the movie, sorry.

03:50:20.440 Yeah, do you think, can you think of a good, compelling reason why a non-religious person should, should actually get married, especially a man?

03:50:28.600 To be honest, I feel like you should only marry if you want the, like, I would only get married in the sense of religion, um, but I feel like, um, if you want to get married, you should do it for the sake of wanting to.

03:50:41.660 And it's, like, wanting the benefit of it, me, like, I, I feel like this sense of security, I know you're saying they can share you irregardless, or regardless, sorry, whether or not they're married or not, but it's kind of more giving that sense of security where, like, you both know, it's like an agreement that you're both communicating to stay loyal to each other, to stay with each other, through sickness and in health, to being with each other, to working together on, like, your goals for your children.

03:51:10.800 Like, I'm very traditional in a sense of a man and a woman, they get married, they raise the children, have a family, grow up together.

03:51:19.000 That's the way that I want it.

03:51:19.660 Sure, well, hang on, let's, um, let's kind of take these one at a time.

03:51:22.580 Sorry.

03:51:22.780 Oh, you don't have to apologize, I was just getting your position down.

03:51:25.060 So, uh, starting with the last thing you said first, why couldn't a man and a woman do all of those same things you just stated, not married?

03:51:35.460 I, they can.

03:51:36.380 There's definitely people that do do that without marriage, but me personally, I think it's...

03:51:41.060 Yeah, I know you, hang on, you personally, we're going to leave that aside, right?

03:51:44.120 This is not what you as the religious Alexa would do.

03:51:48.020 I already know what you would do.

03:51:49.560 You want marriage, you want the kids, you want the husband, you want the covenant, right?

03:51:54.220 Yeah.

03:51:54.380 What we would call the covenant.

03:51:55.520 I don't know what you call it in Islam, but what we would call the covenant.

03:51:58.440 You want that.

03:51:59.520 Got that.

03:52:00.360 Can you think of a good reason, though, why men who are not religious should get married?

03:52:05.160 Men who are not religious and do not believe in any God, they don't believe in any religion, they don't believe in heaven and hell, like, atheist type, like, genuine questions.

03:52:16.800 Mm-hmm.

03:52:17.180 Yep.

03:52:19.120 Those types.

03:52:20.320 They would do it for their significant other to make them happy.

03:52:23.860 Like, for example, if I was married, if I was marrying an atheist, I feel like they would only do it for the sake for me.

03:52:31.660 I feel like regardless, they wouldn't really care.

03:52:33.280 But why would that be good for them?

03:52:36.500 Because maybe they need to be married under their own act, like their own, like they want to be married.

03:52:46.400 Yeah, but they don't want to be married.

03:52:48.220 No, no, no.

03:52:49.000 I know they don't want to, but I'm saying you're asking me why would someone who is not religious want to.

03:52:55.060 Yeah, what would actually be the incentive?

03:52:55.380 So the question here is, if you're an atheist or a secularist, non-religious, you don't believe in all of what you consider the God, voodoo, hoodoo, the sky fairy, the, you know, whatever you call it.

03:53:07.900 And you look at the deal that a man has in modernity in the West in marriage and what happens with divorce and things like this.

03:53:16.860 What would your actual incentive to get married to a woman be?

03:53:20.200 I'm going to be honest.

03:53:21.440 I feel like if people don't really want religion, I don't think they really want marriage because it doesn't hold any much value to them.

03:53:28.960 But if they were to do it, it would honestly be for the sake of the other person if the other person wanted marriage.

03:53:35.920 So your answer is basically just only if it made the other person happy.

03:53:40.320 Yeah, 100%.

03:53:41.240 Yeah, but let's say you were just sitting down in a room and you were just purely being asked this on a cost-benefit analysis, right?

03:53:52.300 Let's say that you were a marriage counselor and your job was to only do a cost-benefit analysis.

03:53:58.440 Two secularists came in, non-religious, and they sat down and they said,

03:54:02.920 Look, she wants to get married and I don't because I take all the risks and she's not taking any risks, right?

03:54:09.780 The courts favor her, everything else.

03:54:12.180 What would your advice be to him if that was your job?

03:54:15.860 Oh, my God.

03:54:21.660 I'm going to be honest.

03:54:22.680 I feel like if he's looking at the relationship in terms of loss, then that doesn't feel like a genuine relationship because you'd want to – this is my opinion.

03:54:31.800 But isn't she doing the same thing by demanding he get married?

03:54:35.020 But, like, shouldn't she bring something to the plate by getting married?

03:54:38.380 Like, is it just all of his money?

03:54:39.600 Like, I feel like wouldn't she be also contributing to the marriage and contributing to the money and contributing – contributing, sorry?

03:54:47.280 Yeah, sure, but why should he take the additional risk if they already have the equal contribution?

03:54:52.780 What is his additional risk?

03:54:54.900 You know, the additional risk is that the courts will likely favor her in case of divorce

03:54:58.960 and the chances that they get divorced is actually quite high.

03:55:02.540 Oh.

03:55:03.840 So you are here just doing a cost-benefit analysis.

03:55:07.200 And he says, well, based on what I'm seeing, it looks like it might be a really raw deal for me

03:55:13.280 and a very good deal for her.

03:55:15.760 But why is he thinking about –

03:55:16.420 These are your clients.

03:55:17.300 Hang on.

03:55:17.600 These are your clients.

03:55:18.380 And you have to give him the advice.

03:55:21.260 What would you give this atheist?

03:55:22.960 What advice from just a purely cost-benefit analysis would you give him?

03:55:28.880 Don't get married.

03:55:30.480 I think maybe –

03:55:31.120 No, no, hang on.

03:55:31.380 Let her answer.

03:55:31.940 Let her answer.

03:55:32.260 I think I would honestly just say to remain patient and to, like, organize other things

03:55:38.300 before the marriage card becomes dealt with because, one, I feel like I wouldn't want to be with someone

03:55:43.440 who's worried about being divorced.

03:55:45.800 I don't know.

03:55:46.140 That's weird to me.

03:55:46.840 Like, don't you want to turn – me?

03:55:48.940 Don't you want eternity with me?

03:55:50.580 Why are you thinking about the outcome?

03:55:52.140 Well, they don't believe in eternity.

03:55:53.760 But then – so they should be focusing on the present.

03:55:56.120 And on the present right now, I'm telling you I love you.

03:55:57.960 I'm telling you that I want to commit with you.

03:55:59.600 Yeah, they love you.

03:56:00.380 And they love you too.

03:56:01.520 And if they're scared, then I think it's something they just need to wait on.

03:56:04.100 Like, I don't recommend getting married if that is something that's like – if that's

03:56:07.320 going to make them feel bad –

03:56:08.660 So you would tell them not to get married.

03:56:10.640 Yeah, I would say.

03:56:11.780 Yeah, right.

03:56:13.160 So essentially, your advice ultimately to the man would be don't do it.

03:56:18.760 Don't do it now until you're comfortable.

03:56:20.500 Yeah, don't do it.

03:56:21.440 Yeah, don't do it.

03:56:22.140 Yes, the now aspect.

03:56:23.180 Because if you're just doing pure cost-benefit analysis, so your advice to the man would

03:56:27.140 be don't do it.

03:56:29.520 Yes, if that's going to – but I feel like the partner should also understand from their

03:56:33.260 part – like, if my partner was feeling like that and saying, like, I feel like there's

03:56:37.900 a divorce or whatever, I feel like it's just like – it's about, like, coming to an

03:56:42.020 agreement.

03:56:42.560 It's about meeting halfway, like, seeing how can both people be happy.

03:56:45.940 Like, if he's that worried, like, oh, my God, we need to talk about that.

03:56:49.880 Can you look right into the camera and tell that man no?

03:56:55.720 No.

03:56:56.120 Did I do it right?

03:57:01.120 You did it right.

03:57:02.340 You did it right.

03:57:02.940 You aced this test.

03:57:04.720 I promise.

03:57:06.000 Moving over to Q.

03:57:07.580 Q.

03:57:08.440 Cost-benefit analysis.

03:57:10.500 Right.

03:57:10.700 Can you give me a good, compelling reason why a non-religious man in modernity should

03:57:17.380 get married?

03:57:22.880 Off the top of my head, no.

03:57:26.780 I don't see the overall benefit, especially if the foundation is holy matrimony.

03:57:31.800 The only thing that I would say would even be potentially compelling enough would be dependent

03:57:40.500 on how much they value just the idea of it in the sense of I want to be married, you

03:57:49.140 know, and maybe they grew up religious and converted to being atheists.

03:57:54.740 So, like, there's a tradition behind it.

03:57:56.440 Yeah.

03:57:57.180 Like, just –

03:57:57.800 But let's give you the same scenario.

03:57:59.240 I think I can understand the idea that because my parents were married, my grandparents were

03:58:04.200 married, I also want to be married even if – you know, even if I'm not religious.

03:58:09.180 I think I can kind of wrap my head around that.

03:58:11.780 But help me out here.

03:58:13.060 You are doing a cost-benefit analysis sitting down with this couple who are both atheists.

03:58:20.920 And the man says, look, this looks like it's going to be a really raw deal for me.

03:58:24.220 I'm taking a lot of risk here.

03:58:26.140 And it seems like the risk is very mitigated on her end.

03:58:29.240 So, we either do a prenup or I'm just not going to do the marriage.

03:58:34.740 What would you advise this man to do?

03:58:39.480 Well, first, I would warn him about all of the risks that he's involved with.

03:58:44.360 That's the first thing.

03:58:45.420 I would let him know.

03:58:45.880 He's already acknowledging the risk.

03:58:47.300 They're arguing.

03:58:48.380 Because she wants to get married, he doesn't.

03:58:51.620 Because of these risks.

03:58:52.780 It's not really –

03:58:53.260 Can you give him – can you tell me the compelling reason you give him as to why he should?

03:58:59.300 No.

03:59:00.320 No.

03:59:00.860 No, I can't really think of it.

03:59:02.140 No.

03:59:02.580 Yeah, no.

03:59:03.000 Can't give him –

03:59:03.860 So, I just want to reiterate.

03:59:06.420 This is the men and the women agreeing.

03:59:09.420 Not a single person has been able to give a good reason for why men in modernity should actually marry non-religious women.

03:59:17.960 And them not being religious themselves, why they should get married.

03:59:21.680 I just wanted to point that out.

03:59:23.480 Right?

03:59:24.080 Maddie, what about you?

03:59:25.680 Right?

03:59:25.960 I haven't picked – I haven't – by the way, I haven't picked on you in weeks.

03:59:28.840 I know.

03:59:28.980 Which I always feel bad about.

03:59:30.720 Tell me, can you think of a single reason?

03:59:34.240 No.

03:59:34.740 I mean, if you're even hesitating marriage, I don't think you should get married at all.

03:59:38.480 Well, the only reason I can actually think of, which kind of sounds like a little manipulative, is that it's harder for her to leave.

03:59:47.060 Make it a pain in the ass for her to leave.

03:59:48.540 That's it.

03:59:48.640 It's just like – yeah.

03:59:50.340 Yeah, like, I don't think you should get married, though, if you're even hesitating thinking about it.

03:59:56.900 Okay.

03:59:57.420 Well, I have one more question to go around to the panel.

04:00:00.920 We're going to start again with Savannah.

04:00:02.700 So, this is kind of a really basic hypothetical, but really interesting, the answers we get off of this.

04:00:10.880 So, starting with you, a random woman and a random man, okay, they're put in front of you, okay?

04:00:20.760 Which one – now, both of them, you don't know which one, okay?

04:00:25.800 Which one do you think would be more likely to tell you the truth?

04:00:28.880 Out of a random woman or a random man, which one do you think would be more likely to tell you the truth?

04:00:34.800 The man, okay.

04:00:36.300 Moving over to Gabby, random woman, random man, which one do you think would be more likely to tell you the truth?

04:00:42.080 I agree, a random man.

04:00:44.100 Okay.

04:00:45.040 And then Maddie?

04:00:47.440 A man.

04:00:48.720 A man.

04:00:49.540 And then moving over to Kendra?

04:00:52.460 A woman.

04:00:54.100 You think a woman would be more likely to tell you what's true?

04:00:57.380 Okay.

04:00:57.740 And then moving over to Emma?

04:00:59.780 A woman.

04:01:01.380 A woman, okay.

04:01:02.300 And then moving over to Alex?

04:01:04.400 That's a very difficult question, honestly, because –

04:01:08.500 It is.

04:01:08.880 Well, it is.

04:01:09.440 I agree with that.

04:01:10.300 Yeah, so –

04:01:11.300 Honestly, I have no idea.

04:01:16.540 I feel like it's 50-50.

04:01:18.200 Okay, well, then, you know, whichever one you would – whatever that, like, small, tiny, minute grain of possibility is that you would lean towards, because these are your only two options, which one do you think would be more likely to do so?

04:01:33.980 Okay, so just because, as you said, I come from a feminine perspective and my own perspective, I always tell the truth, I would say a woman only based on that fact and that fact alone.

04:01:45.940 Okay.

04:01:46.200 Okay, and then moving over to Turkish?

04:01:49.060 Because they're random, completely random, I would say a male.

04:01:57.100 A man, okay.

04:01:58.020 Yes.

04:01:58.680 So moving back to you, Savannah, why did you pick a man?

04:02:02.060 Why do you think a man would be more likely to tell you the truth than a woman?

04:02:05.520 I feel like guys often, like, tell the truth more than a girl does.

04:02:10.420 I feel like girls lie more than guys do.

04:02:13.340 What type of lies do you think women tell more than men?

04:02:16.020 Because, I mean, men and women both lie.

04:02:17.560 We both agree that's true, right?

04:02:19.220 I mean, it could be anything, like the smallest things.

04:02:22.960 Like what types of things?

04:02:24.320 Well, one of the things that I hear a lot, and I don't want to lead you in this, but that's just what I hear a bunch, is white lies.

04:02:31.040 Like they'll often pick each other apart in their brains while they're telling each other compliments that they don't really mean, things like that.

04:02:38.200 Yeah, that's true.

04:02:39.960 Yeah, those types of lies?

04:02:41.480 I think so, for sure.

04:02:43.460 Okay.

04:02:44.320 Gabby, why did you choose a man?

04:02:46.200 In my experiences dealing with both men and women throughout my life, I've found women to be a lot more fake, and they lie about things a lot more than men do.

04:02:59.180 Damn.

04:03:00.440 Okay.

04:03:01.380 Maddie.

04:03:02.520 Why are we going with a man, Maddie?

04:03:04.480 I went with man because I think as girls, women, we don't want to necessarily hurt each other's feelings.

04:03:10.500 So, like, if I were to ask a random woman on the street, and I'm wearing, like, an ugly dress, I said, does this look cute?

04:03:18.100 She's going to say yes, because she doesn't want to tear down my self-confidence, even though it's not necessarily the truth.

04:03:22.680 But a man is going to be more likely to tell me straight up, that dress is ugly.

04:03:27.740 That's how I feel.

04:03:30.280 Okay.

04:03:30.820 And then moving over to Kendra, why did you pick a woman?

04:03:35.800 Because men be capping.

04:03:37.020 Yeah.

04:03:37.140 Like, okay, I don't know what that means exactly.

04:03:44.120 They really like to put an emphasis on things that, you know, it is what it is, but they like to, like, gas it up a little bit.

04:03:53.080 Exaggerate.

04:03:54.580 Exaggeration.

04:03:55.760 Yeah.

04:03:56.420 Okay, well, I think that that's maybe fair, but when it comes to actual truth-telling, like, I'm going to tell you the raw, honest truth, you still think women?

04:04:04.880 I think there's a difference between the truth and the fact, so...

04:04:09.820 What's the difference between the truth and the fact?

04:04:12.200 The truth is, like, what it really is, and a fact is just an opinion based on, like, evidence that everybody has gathered and collectively agrees on.

04:04:22.320 Yeah, but don't you think that most people would say a fact is the truth?

04:04:26.260 No.

04:04:27.480 I mean, if you don't know the difference between them.

04:04:30.960 Okay, so, well, I actually don't.

04:04:33.780 I'm trying to figure this out from your purview.

04:04:36.540 So everybody agrees to something that's what makes it a fact?

04:04:40.360 Yes.

04:04:41.320 Based on evidence.

04:04:41.640 But it can still be untrue.

04:04:43.220 The truth is something that's actually been proven, and, like, it's true.

04:04:48.060 Well, actually, it's a fact that this table is white.

04:04:51.120 That's just what society has gathered.

04:04:53.000 But is it true that the table is white?

04:04:55.480 No, it's a fact, because society as a whole said this color is white.

04:04:59.700 Hang on.

04:05:00.540 So is it untrue that the table is white?

04:05:03.560 I mean, I'm not saying it's untrue.

04:05:05.780 I'm not saying it's true.

04:05:06.840 But you're not saying it is true.

04:05:07.960 Well, okay.

04:05:08.500 What we all know...

04:05:08.780 I guess another way to ask this, do you think that people can know what is true?

04:05:16.280 No.

04:05:17.360 Okay.

04:05:17.840 So if you don't think that...

04:05:18.960 And I understand that worldview, too.

04:05:20.620 If you don't think people can know what is true, then let me rephrase it for your worldview.

04:05:24.840 Do you think that a man or a woman is going to be more likely to tell you what is factual?

04:05:33.340 A woman.

04:05:35.440 Okay.

04:05:35.900 And why did you choose woman?

04:05:38.080 I don't know.

04:05:38.720 I have a different, like, experience with women.

04:05:43.020 Like, my closest friends, like, we're all very honest and blunt with each other.

04:05:48.260 But a random person, just because...

04:05:51.220 Yeah, this is random.

04:05:52.100 Random man, random woman.

04:05:53.540 Yeah.

04:05:53.980 Which one do you think would be more likely to tell you a fact?

04:05:57.040 Even if the fact was uncomfortable or something you didn't like or something you didn't appreciate or, you know, this type of thing.

04:06:02.800 I think still a woman.

04:06:04.220 I don't think a man.

04:06:05.320 I don't know.

04:06:05.700 I just don't think so.

04:06:06.640 So it's been your experience that men have been less honest with you, at least when it comes to facts, than women.

04:06:13.080 Yeah.

04:06:14.480 Okay.

04:06:15.140 And then, Emma, same thing.

04:06:17.660 Same thing to you.

04:06:18.280 Why did you choose woman?

04:06:19.500 I think womanhood, it's like a girl-to-girl thing.

04:06:23.740 So I feel like, as a woman, other women are more reliable.

04:06:30.860 If I'm like, hey, do I have something in my teeth?

04:06:33.580 They're like, yes, girl, I got you, you do.

04:06:35.840 You want a man to say that to you, too, if you ask him?

04:06:38.620 I don't think so.

04:06:41.500 You don't think a man tell you if you had something in your teeth?

04:06:44.060 If you ask him, do I have something in my teeth?

04:06:45.660 You think he'd be like, no.

04:06:47.200 I don't think they're as reliable to tell you that.

04:06:52.360 Okay.

04:06:52.680 And then, Alex, why did you choose a woman?

04:06:56.340 So, again, just based on my own personal, you know, of the way that I go off, because I do feel like it's about 50-50.

04:07:04.300 However, just based on your question earlier for the factual part of it, I do think that men will actually present the facts and women would present more of the feelings.

04:07:14.800 Well, hang on, then you don't believe we can know what is true?

04:07:21.420 Both can be true, though, because for a woman, her feelings are true.

04:07:27.640 Yeah, my question is not that.

04:07:29.100 My question is just, do you think we can know what is true?

04:07:33.060 We as in who?

04:07:34.120 Like, the person who is listening to the lie?

04:07:36.140 Can you know what is true?

04:07:37.480 You.

04:07:38.060 You, yourself, Alex, can you know what is true?

04:07:41.780 True of what?

04:07:43.640 True.

04:07:44.200 A statement which is true.

04:07:45.980 That someone else said or that I'm saying?

04:07:49.140 That you're saying.

04:07:50.180 That I'm saying, yes, I can think that a statement is true.

04:07:54.340 Okay, but does that make it true?

04:07:56.720 That does not necessarily make it true for everybody else.

04:07:59.320 Okay, so now that we know that you thinking a thing is true doesn't make it true.

04:08:03.900 Yeah.

04:08:03.980 Do you think people can know what is true?

04:08:06.960 In general, people could, but then at the same time, they don't actually know because

04:08:12.380 everything is based on their own perspectives.

04:08:14.860 Right.

04:08:15.200 I understand completely, so then we'll just do the same thing and say facts.

04:08:19.920 Yeah.

04:08:20.240 Who do you think is more likely to tell you the fact that you matter?

04:08:22.220 And as I've said, I think men are more likely to present the facts.

04:08:26.360 I've already said that.

04:08:27.320 Like the actual facts of the general knowledge instead of the feelings and the personal truth.

04:08:35.480 Got it.

04:08:36.000 Okay.

04:08:36.420 So then, do you agree with me that most people would use the term fact and truth interchangeably?

04:08:43.480 Yeah.

04:08:44.520 Yeah.

04:08:45.640 Technically, yeah.

04:08:47.020 That's not true.

04:08:48.140 So when I ask you this question, and I kind of rephrase it to, okay, now facts, you agree

04:08:54.320 with me that we're essentially asking the same thing.

04:08:56.580 Yeah.

04:08:57.500 So your answer would actually change that men then, if most people use truth and facts

04:09:02.160 interchangeably, men would be more likely to tell you what is true.

04:09:04.940 If we're using it interchangeably, and there's absolutely no, yeah.

04:09:13.860 Difference.

04:09:14.380 Yeah.

04:09:14.580 Okay.

04:09:14.760 Gotcha.

04:09:14.900 If there's absolutely no difference, no nuance, yes, I would agree with you.

04:09:18.980 Gotcha.

04:09:19.460 Okay.

04:09:19.720 And then Turkish.

04:09:22.240 Can I be honest?

04:09:23.080 I feel like men just don't care.

04:09:25.080 Like, they don't care to sugarcoat anything.

04:09:26.940 They don't care to, like, like, straight up, if I ask Q, like, see, like, someone asked

04:09:32.960 him about the whole virginity thing and taking the girl's virginity and, like, what was the

04:09:36.860 reason?

04:09:37.220 He could have, like, sat her and lied and said, like, she did this or whatever.

04:09:40.540 He just said conflict and I didn't want to deal with it.

04:09:42.700 So, like, he just was blunt.

04:09:44.800 He's like, that's the, that's the fact.

04:09:47.100 And I move on.

04:09:48.080 Like, there's no need.

04:09:48.680 If I had, um, if I had a hand raised around the table from just the women, do you agree with

04:09:53.240 her that men mostly just don't care and are very blunt with what it is that

04:09:56.900 they'll say hand raised?

04:10:00.240 Like, sure, they might not communicate, but when they do, I think they're blunt.

04:10:04.620 Well, the ones that I've dealt with anyways.

04:10:07.240 Yeah.

04:10:08.140 Okay.

04:10:09.100 All right.

04:10:10.000 Um, and this kind of leads to the, to the last question.

04:10:13.480 Um, and so these are all intertwined for a reason, right?

04:10:17.760 Um, so for those of you who chose bear, can you raise your hand?

04:10:26.400 Okay.

04:10:27.060 And Maddie chose bear.

04:10:30.360 Maddie, do you chose bear?

04:10:32.160 Yeah.

04:10:32.360 Where's Maddie?

04:10:32.960 She did.

04:10:33.440 She's just going to come back in a second.

04:10:36.320 Okay.

04:10:36.980 For those of you who chose bear, can you raise your hand again?

04:10:39.780 And then, and for those of you who chose that you would take truth from women, can you

04:10:43.120 raise your hand again?

04:10:46.060 Ah, ah, hang on.

04:10:48.140 Oh, Alice.

04:10:49.160 Truth for women, yes.

04:10:50.280 So, all, hang on, hang on.

04:10:51.460 Truth for women, yes.

04:10:52.340 So, let me just ask again.

04:10:54.120 Those of you who thought that you would get the truth, or those of you who thought that

04:10:58.120 the bear would be better over the man, raise your hand.

04:11:01.600 Okay.

04:11:02.180 Oh, hang on, Alex, Alex, just based on your initial answer, based on just your initial

04:11:08.000 answer, those of you who chose bear, can you raise your hand?

04:11:10.880 Thank you.

04:11:11.620 Okay.

04:11:12.020 So, all three of you.

04:11:13.580 And those of you who said that a woman would be more likely to tell you the truth, based

04:11:17.500 on your initial answer, can you raise your hand?

04:11:20.760 It's the same three.

04:11:22.960 So, what's the problem?

04:11:24.740 Well, I just want to, I just want to kind of point out that the women who would take

04:11:31.100 the man's word over that of a woman, in general, tend to not take the bear.

04:11:37.960 And those who would take the woman's word over the man, tend to take the bear.

04:11:44.620 And so, I just think that this is a very interesting kind of thought experiment, because I've seen

04:11:48.840 this over and over and over.

04:11:51.140 Now, I'd like to ask another question.

04:11:53.940 Can you raise your hand if you're a feminist, or identify with feminism?

04:12:02.760 Alex, stop bullshitting me, Alex.

04:12:04.560 I have changed.

04:12:04.980 Stop bullshitting me, Alex.

04:12:06.620 We've been through this a million times.

04:12:08.140 Yes.

04:12:08.440 Okay.

04:12:08.740 So, I do know.

04:12:10.340 Okay.

04:12:10.800 I actually, the main reason why I even made the painting to begin with for Brian is because

04:12:17.020 the show has actually changed a few of my views on a lot of different things, including

04:12:23.020 feminism.

04:12:23.660 So, I do not, I actually do not align with the current feminist views at all.

04:12:33.360 Which ones?

04:12:35.440 That I do not want to dismantle the patriarchy.

04:12:41.780 And also, just to point out, because the last time there was a question.

04:12:46.620 Do you want to vote, Alex?

04:12:46.640 Do you want to vote?

04:12:47.940 I do want to vote, yeah.

04:12:49.160 Yeah, okay.

04:12:50.440 So, then I just got to ask you real quick.

04:12:53.700 Which patriarchal systems do you feel men should be in charge of and women should never

04:12:58.320 be?

04:12:58.840 So, okay.

04:12:59.560 So, I actually don't think that men should be in charge.

04:13:02.080 I'm, I actually, after the research, I'm more of a humanist.

04:13:05.880 I think that everybody, yeah.

04:13:08.940 So, I think everybody just has, you know, their own thing.

04:13:12.820 The good is the good, man.

04:13:14.540 Right?

04:13:14.880 The good is the good, man.

04:13:16.320 I mean, honestly, yeah, I think everybody, just like, I do not think you're a terrible

04:13:21.080 person.

04:13:22.040 I mean, I'm sure you think I'm a terrible person.

04:13:24.180 But it's like, I do not think you're a terrible person.

04:13:26.920 Yes.

04:13:27.060 Yes.

04:13:27.140 I, I, I know you do.

04:13:28.700 Terrible person.

04:13:29.120 No, I'm kidding.

04:13:29.680 I'm kidding.

04:13:30.660 I'm kidding.

04:13:31.600 No, no, I don't think that.

04:13:32.800 But it's like, I think that everybody should just be able to live whatever that they want

04:13:37.800 to live as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else.

04:13:40.340 All right.

04:13:40.600 Okay, so one more, one more quick question, right, going around the table, just to, because

04:13:46.180 I, right, again, this is just kind of a social experiment that I like to do.

04:13:50.820 Can you just raise your hand around the table if both of your parents are still together?

04:13:56.260 My mom passed away, though.

04:14:02.040 Does that still count before?

04:14:04.480 Yeah, that still counts.

04:14:05.300 Yeah.

04:14:05.600 Okay.

04:14:06.320 Yeah, yeah.

04:14:06.940 You want me to be included in this?

04:14:08.700 Yes, okay.

04:14:09.120 Okay.

04:14:09.960 Yeah, yeah.

04:14:10.880 Both your parents are still together.

04:14:12.600 Okay.

04:14:13.740 Gotcha.

04:14:15.060 All right.

04:14:16.120 That's, that's what I had.

04:14:17.400 Q, I was going to pass it over to you for your questions.

04:14:20.400 I didn't, I didn't have any.

04:14:22.120 I was like, you say, yeah.

04:14:23.680 Nothing?

04:14:24.120 Okay.

04:14:24.420 Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't have no questions.

04:14:26.760 I was, I was engaged in this.

04:14:28.500 We'll, we'll, we'll dive into this idea.

04:14:30.540 This is a, we're going to move over to paleo psychology.

04:14:34.800 This is, by the way, Q, I believe that you're an expert in paleo psychology.

04:14:39.160 Evolutionary psych.

04:14:40.060 Yeah.

04:14:40.840 Yeah.

04:14:41.400 Okay.

04:14:42.860 Kind of moving back.

04:14:44.180 Why do you think Savannah, right?

04:14:47.600 Starting with you.

04:14:48.960 Why would you say that you think that men, and, and this has been, been pretty well researched

04:14:55.580 when men are asked what age demographic they find most attractive.

04:15:00.020 They tend to go for your younger women.

04:15:01.980 Q, do you know what the ages are?

04:15:03.600 I think it's early twenties.

04:15:05.000 Yeah, it's, um, I've seen it fluctuate between 22 and 23.

04:15:10.700 I believe, yeah, somewhere between 23.

04:15:12.780 I think that that's, I think that that's close to correct or correct enough, right?

04:15:15.680 Don't quote me on this.

04:15:17.140 But Savannah, why do you think that men tend to move towards that age demographic?

04:15:22.080 Probably because they look younger, better.

04:15:25.420 I don't really know.

04:15:27.060 You think it's because they're youthful?

04:15:28.080 They haven't been with as many people, maybe.

04:15:30.420 Mm-hmm.

04:15:31.000 I don't know.

04:15:32.700 They haven't been with as many people?

04:15:34.840 Yeah.

04:15:35.860 So, like, not as much baggage?

04:15:37.580 Mm-hmm.

04:15:38.580 Okay.

04:15:39.160 And then Gabby?

04:15:40.840 Um, in my experience when I was younger dating men who were, like, 20, 30 years older than

04:15:45.660 me, I think that they liked how open and curious I was.

04:15:50.180 I think they liked having someone that they could teach things to, um, and, like, have

04:15:55.160 a good time with.

04:15:55.920 If my mind wasn't, like, trying to control him or, like, thinking about the future.

04:16:01.240 And I think some guys like that.

04:16:03.520 They like having someone who's just open to living in the moment and that they can have

04:16:06.740 the upper hand with.

04:16:08.380 What do you think about what Savannah said about baggage?

04:16:11.980 Um, I agree.

04:16:13.260 I think that that's one of the things they see.

04:16:15.040 They see someone younger and she most likely has less baggage than someone who's, like,

04:16:19.160 in her 30s, like, 38 and still single.

04:16:22.460 Yeah.

04:16:22.600 Maddie?

04:16:24.500 I think because there's a more malleable aspect about younger women, um, in a good way and

04:16:29.820 a bad way.

04:16:30.920 Um, younger women haven't been with as many men or many people, don't have as much experience,

04:16:36.600 but have, typically at that time, have a good amount.

04:16:40.860 Um, and then, yes, the curiosity aspect of there is an older man wanting and willing and

04:16:46.800 happy to show you the world, show you different things.

04:16:49.320 It's, it's kind of fun.

04:16:51.300 Well, um, to the question, right, I just want to be concise so that you know, why do you

04:16:56.340 think men are generally attracted to younger women in their early 20s?

04:17:02.380 Because it's fun for the man to show the woman, the young woman, new things because she could

04:17:08.180 have less quote unquote baggage because she's younger and had less experience and not worn

04:17:12.240 down by the relationships of life.

04:17:15.480 Um, and yeah, so the malleable aspect of her personality and how she can serve him in the

04:17:22.120 relationship, essentially.

04:17:23.560 Okay.

04:17:24.340 Uh, Kendra?

04:17:26.060 I think of it more from, like, a biological aspect.

04:17:29.140 I think that, you know, men look for, like, best, just like kind of how every animal does.

04:17:37.900 They look for, like, the best, like, prime, you know, reproductive ages for, like, to reproduce

04:17:44.880 and keep their generations going.

04:17:46.700 Okay.

04:17:47.200 And then Emma?

04:17:48.480 I, I agree with the biological standpoint and, like, fertility is what makes younger women

04:17:54.340 attractive, but I also think it makes men feel like they were back in their early 20s.

04:18:02.420 So it's very fun.

04:18:04.260 Okay.

04:18:04.700 And then Alex?

04:18:06.640 Yeah.

04:18:06.860 So I actually agree with every single person who's come before me and, um, especially like

04:18:11.960 I was going to add that it makes a lot of times just feel younger and just feel more vibrant

04:18:19.560 and the life just feels overall better and happier, um, just because there's not as much

04:18:24.920 baggage, there's, uh, the biological perspective, there's, you know, the past, and in general,

04:18:31.200 the curiosity, so.

04:18:32.380 Yeah, yeah, sure.

04:18:33.160 And then Turkish.

04:18:34.460 I have a question.

04:18:35.300 When you say a man wants to be with a younger woman, is that why?

04:18:38.880 No, that's not what I said.

04:18:40.160 Oh, no.

04:18:40.440 So I'll repeat, I'll repeat the question.

04:18:42.220 Hang on.

04:18:42.640 Yes.

04:18:42.820 Let me repeat the question.

04:18:43.760 Um, the, the relationship data that both myself and Q have looked at just is talking

04:18:50.200 about attraction and that men are mostly attracted to women in their younger 20s.

04:18:56.400 So it's all I'm asking is why you think that is the case.

04:18:59.980 I think males are attracted to women who are younger in the 22s, 23s, um, because they're

04:19:08.000 very free spirited, free will.

04:19:10.300 Or, like, I feel like women know as well when you're younger, it's kind of, like, party season.

04:19:15.980 Like, when you get older, you, I feel like me personally, as I get older, I think I have

04:19:21.100 to settle more into, like, finding full-time work and, like, getting my life sorted.

04:19:25.640 Whether when I was younger, I was like, let's have fun, let's go out, like, let's mingle

04:19:30.920 and whatever.

04:19:31.620 And a male would like to be around that kind of energy if they are older, I guess, to feel

04:19:37.940 younger, to know that that girl probably doesn't really have, um, hopefully not much on many

04:19:44.460 issues, really.

04:19:46.060 Like, literally just give them a good time to have fun, I guess.

04:19:49.420 Gotcha.

04:19:50.020 Okay, I got all your answers.

04:19:51.360 And Q, don't come in on this just yet.

04:19:53.300 I'd like to get you last.

04:19:54.860 Okay.

04:19:55.120 Moving back to the beginning of the table, Savannah.

04:19:57.180 Savannah, does it give you the ick if a 45- or 50-year-old man only wants to date younger

04:20:05.460 20-year-old women?

04:20:08.740 Um, not really.

04:20:11.220 I mean, if a 50-year-old man, I mean, he could look younger than 50.

04:20:15.440 He doesn't.

04:20:16.280 Oh, he doesn't?

04:20:18.320 It looks like he's exactly his age.

04:20:20.280 Oh, then maybe.

04:20:22.100 It gives you the ick?

04:20:23.460 Yeah, a little bit.

04:20:24.660 Okay.

04:20:25.200 Gabby?

04:20:25.520 Um, it definitely makes me think that maybe there's some trauma going on with the girl.

04:20:32.000 Maybe that's why she's with him.

04:20:33.740 No, no, no.

04:20:34.300 No, no.

04:20:34.680 That's, uh, the question is, does it give you the ick if a man who's in his late 40s or 50s

04:20:40.460 wants to exclusively date women in their 20s?

04:20:44.160 Yes.

04:20:44.720 I think there's something wrong with that.

04:20:46.480 Maddie, does that give you the ick?

04:20:49.040 Yes, for me personally, it does.

04:20:50.800 Because where my life trajectory of where I want to go and where he wants to go isn't

04:20:56.560 lining up.

04:20:57.160 I'm not having kids.

04:20:58.360 I'm not building a life with someone that's 50 and having kids with them just for my kids

04:21:02.320 to be, you know, 15 and their dads approaching their 70s.

04:21:07.160 Like.

04:21:07.400 I understand.

04:21:07.960 Uh, Kendra, give you the ick.

04:21:13.820 I want to say it gives me the ick.

04:21:15.760 It's just not my thing.

04:21:18.080 Like, I feel like.

04:21:18.720 Is it, is it kind of icky and that's why it's not your thing?

04:21:22.160 No, I just think I have different chemicals in my brain that like different things.

04:21:25.980 Okay.

04:21:26.720 Emma.

04:21:28.220 Very icky.

04:21:28.500 Does it give you the ick?

04:21:29.600 Yeah.

04:21:30.080 Very icky.

04:21:30.800 Very kind of creepy.

04:21:32.800 Okay.

04:21:33.700 Uh, Alex, give you the ick.

04:21:36.480 Exclusively only 20 year olds?

04:21:38.220 Yeah.

04:21:39.100 Um, it's a little bit questionable, but I mean, I don't necessarily.

04:21:43.220 Kind of gives you the ick?

04:21:44.260 But it's like, I don't really care because I mean, at that point.

04:21:47.980 Yeah, I understand, but does it kind of give you the ick?

04:21:48.980 It's like, I mean, it's, it would interest me as to why and kind of just question.

04:21:57.900 Yeah, I know, I know, I get it.

04:21:58.420 So it would not necessarily give me the ick.

04:22:00.260 Hang on, hang on.

04:22:00.900 No.

04:22:01.260 I'm not, I'm not asking for like massive reasoning here or anything like that.

04:22:05.580 I'm just asking intuitively, does it kind of give you the ick or not?

04:22:08.460 It does not give me the ick.

04:22:10.120 It gives me a question.

04:22:11.320 And then moving over to Turkish.

04:22:12.800 Yeah.

04:22:13.000 Does it give you the ick?

04:22:13.840 Yeah.

04:22:14.320 Gives you the ick?

04:22:15.120 Mm-hmm.

04:22:15.340 Okay, so can I get a hand raised from all of you who said it gives you the ick?

04:22:18.980 Got it.

04:22:22.160 Okay.

04:22:23.480 Hands down.

04:22:24.820 All of you said and gave great reasons for why it is that you think that older men are

04:22:31.840 attracted to younger women.

04:22:33.980 And yet, when I give you the idea that there could be men who exclusively want to date that

04:22:42.620 which they're attracted to, it gives you the ick.

04:22:45.720 Can any of you tell me why that is?

04:22:49.900 I've been in that situation before.

04:22:52.200 So when I see people in a situation like that, that's where my brain goes.

04:22:55.720 But it doesn't mean that everyone is experiencing like the trauma I experienced.

04:23:00.020 Other people could be very happy and they could be building the life that they desire with

04:23:04.780 someone who's much younger than them.

04:23:06.920 But to me personally, it gives me the ick and I wouldn't want, if I had a daughter, I wouldn't

04:23:12.580 want for her to be going out with someone that much older.

04:23:16.440 If possible, I would prefer her marry someone who's a little closer to her age.

04:23:20.200 Even though you gave tons of reasons as to why it is that you, well, in your case, I guess

04:23:27.600 you did just say trauma.

04:23:28.980 We'll move over to Savannah.

04:23:30.340 You gave multiple reasons, including baggage, things like this.

04:23:33.720 And yet, still said that it would give you the ick.

04:23:36.260 Even though you gave great reasons as to why a man, in fact, kind of should go for a younger

04:23:41.540 woman.

04:23:41.880 And can you kind of reconcile that for me?

04:23:45.060 Um, wait, what does that, what does that mean?

04:23:49.380 Can you, can you show me how this makes sense?

04:23:53.120 Oh, why they like a younger girl?

04:23:55.180 No, no, no, no.

04:23:56.380 Why it is that you, it gives you the ick that they would like a younger girl, even though

04:24:00.420 you gave all sorts of reasons as to why they should like a younger girl.

04:24:04.900 I think the age different is just really like, it's a lot.

04:24:08.500 And I feel like they wouldn't have really so many things in common.

04:24:11.020 Like, why would she want to be with someone that much older, you know?

04:24:14.880 I feel like that's kind of weird.

04:24:17.300 But then I get it.

04:24:18.180 He wants to have fun.

04:24:19.320 I don't know, but like a 50 year old having fun with like a 20 year old, that just sounds

04:24:22.580 kind of weird.

04:24:23.800 Yeah, but you gave tons of good reasons as to why they should.

04:24:26.620 And yet, somehow, it still gives you the ick.

04:24:29.080 Yeah, true.

04:24:29.620 Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

04:24:32.460 Maddie, you gave multiple reasons as to why men should be attracted to younger 20 year

04:24:39.740 olds and gave all sorts of justifications for why they would be, and yet still find

04:24:44.160 it icky as to why they would pursue them.

04:24:46.360 Can you help me out with that?

04:24:47.780 Sure.

04:24:48.480 Just because someone's pursuing me doesn't mean I need to pursue them.

04:24:51.900 I can have an advantage or a leverage or all of that stuff.

04:24:56.820 So what I personally do not want to be with a 50 year old man.

04:25:00.380 They may want to be with me for biological reasons, because I might not have as much trauma,

04:25:05.140 this, that, the next.

04:25:05.800 Yeah, yeah, hang on.

04:25:06.920 If you want me, it doesn't mean I have to want you back.

04:25:08.380 I want to make sure that maybe you misinterpreted what was asked.

04:25:12.960 I asked if it gives you the ick if a man only pursues women in that age demographic, not

04:25:17.900 you specifically.

04:25:19.540 What you, if you would find it icky dating a 50 year old or whatever, has nothing to do

04:25:24.080 with the question.

04:25:25.000 Okay.

04:25:25.820 So just to put them both out there, would I did a 50 year old man that was only interested

04:25:30.360 in girls in their 20s?

04:25:31.840 No.

04:25:32.180 If somebody else did, would I, would I...

04:25:34.640 I'm not even asking, I'm just asking if it's icky if a man exclusively wants to date

04:25:40.520 women in their 20s.

04:25:41.860 Not necessarily.

04:25:44.520 Okay.

04:25:44.980 So your answer's kind of changed here.

04:25:47.840 I don't, I just wouldn't do it personally.

04:25:49.860 So as a general thing, I don't think it's icky, but is it for me?

04:25:54.740 No.

04:25:55.460 Yeah.

04:25:55.720 No, I understand it's not for you, but you don't have any actual issues with it, right?

04:26:04.160 It doesn't give you the ick, in other words.

04:26:06.540 And if it does give you the ick, if a man in his 50s only pursues women in their, in their

04:26:11.000 early 20s, can you tell me why?

04:26:13.520 Okay.

04:26:13.840 Um, there could be some type of fetishization there.

04:26:18.560 Um, a man in his 50s pursuing a girl in her 20s, she could be the same age as a, as a possible

04:26:25.280 daughter.

04:26:26.700 Um.

04:26:27.440 Yeah, I know.

04:26:28.180 But you dating a man who's only two years older than you, he's the same age as your brother.

04:26:34.400 Okay.

04:26:34.800 So, when you, when you kind of give this idea of, well, that could be your daughter, or

04:26:41.180 she's young enough to be your daughter, he's old enough to be your father, well, the guy

04:26:44.300 you're dating is old enough to be your brother.

04:26:45.900 I don't, I don't really understand the argument.

04:26:47.560 It's, I think the argument is in the stages of life, of he's in a, he's in a fatherhood stage

04:26:52.980 of life, of a band had kids.

04:26:54.140 And he's in a brotherhood stage of life?

04:26:56.140 Like.

04:26:56.400 And someone that I, and someone that I could be dating now that is a similar age to me, they

04:27:01.280 could be in the same.

04:27:01.720 Wouldn't you agree a 15 year old could be in the father stage of life?

04:27:04.800 They could be.

04:27:08.720 Yeah, they could.

04:27:09.380 That's definitely a circumstance.

04:27:10.120 They could be.

04:27:11.100 So, the, the, the question is, you gave some great justifications for why a man would only

04:27:17.500 exclusively want to go for younger 20 year old women, and yet it still gives you the

04:27:21.960 ick.

04:27:22.880 I'm wondering the reasons why you think it's both justified for them to go after them,

04:27:27.560 and why it gives you the ick at the same time.

04:27:30.820 I think there's just ick on the woman's part.

04:27:34.800 If she could be icked out.

04:27:40.080 Yeah, but why would it give you the ick for that to happen?

04:27:44.280 I'm sorry, I'm not following.

04:27:45.100 Not you personally in that relationship, but other, two other people who aren't you.

04:27:48.840 I thought you were saying, are you getting the ick from seeing, for example, me with

04:27:52.780 a 50 year old man?

04:27:54.620 No.

04:27:55.760 I think that's, he's not asking you, because that's, I assumed you meant me as well, that's

04:27:59.240 why I said ick.

04:27:59.960 I couldn't, I feel like me, sorry to cut another girl, I'll quickly talk so they can go, but

04:28:05.440 me personally, I retract that.

04:28:06.860 I don't get ick if someone else was dating, because if that's how they want to live.

04:28:10.060 Agreed.

04:28:10.620 Genuinely, I don't care.

04:28:11.580 I thought you meant me personally.

04:28:12.800 No, because like, I think I'm in a position now that I feel like, now that I'm 24, I do,

04:28:17.600 I feel like I need to get my life together.

04:28:18.780 Okay, so you don't think there's anything wrong at all with a 50 year old man?

04:28:22.360 If that 20 year old.

04:28:23.520 Or, hang on, going exclusively for 20 year olds, right?

04:28:27.260 No, she's of legal age, is that legal here?

04:28:29.980 Okay, got it, so your answer has changed.

04:28:32.020 Yes, sorry, I've been trying to say that.

04:28:33.960 Then moving over to Emma, what is the problem with a 50 year old man exclusively wanting to

04:28:40.460 date 20 year old women?

04:28:41.760 I think it could be predatory in kind of, like, going for someone who is younger and

04:28:49.500 less experienced, and maybe doesn't know much about the world.

04:28:53.940 Well, I would agree that it's highly predatory for these young women who are in their 20s

04:28:58.260 to have all their faculties intact, and they're picking on these senile old men for resources.

04:29:03.600 I think that that's highly predatory of them.

04:29:06.280 Yeah, okay.

04:29:09.420 You agree?

04:29:09.840 Yeah, if it's consensual, I guess there's something wrong with it, then.

04:29:14.740 Okay, and then Kendra, why is it creepy for, or icky for 50 year old men to exclusively want

04:29:22.620 women in their early 20s?

04:29:23.920 I didn't say that it was.

04:29:25.580 Okay, and you would stand by that, right?

04:29:29.160 Yeah.

04:29:30.100 Okay, so then just by a show of hands, can we just get an answer?

04:29:34.420 Does it actually give any of you the ick by a show of hands?

04:29:39.000 Who has the ick by a 50-year-old man exclusively only wanting to date 20-year-olds by raise of

04:29:44.280 hands?

04:29:46.000 It creeps me out, but I'm a mom.

04:29:48.340 I think it's weird.

04:29:50.580 Yeah, I don't, well, I don't know.

04:29:52.160 What if, what if the father of your children was 50?

04:29:55.660 Like, would it be weird then?

04:29:57.220 For me personally, I've only liked older men due to trauma.

04:30:00.340 So, yes, I've never legitimately, like, been attracted to them.

04:30:03.920 There was always some deeper psychological stuff going on.

04:30:08.340 Wait, so you only select for older men?

04:30:11.240 I used to seek out older men, and I was convinced for a very long time, like, oh, I need to be

04:30:18.200 with an older man.

04:30:19.240 I would love an older man.

04:30:19.920 And is the father of your child significantly older?

04:30:22.440 He is only about eight and a half years older than me.

04:30:26.220 Okay, so he's still older.

04:30:27.340 Yeah.

04:30:28.580 Okay, gotcha.

04:30:30.520 And you wouldn't seek such relationships now?

04:30:33.680 No, I'm in a relationship with someone my age, and it feels a lot better.

04:30:39.220 Okay, so in your case, though, you're kind of saying that this is just due to traumatic

04:30:43.680 experience, and that's what you're kind of saying, that's why it gives you the ick, because

04:30:48.140 you think that there's some type of mental illness associated with it?

04:30:52.000 Not in every case, but...

04:30:54.520 No, just in your case?

04:30:55.640 Yes.

04:30:56.040 Okay, so just in your case.

04:30:58.140 Okay, so then that's the only kind of objection that you have is personalized.

04:31:02.120 Now, Q, because you're an evolutionary psychologist, you're really good at this shit, this is your

04:31:08.760 domain, and I got to take a leak.

04:31:10.920 Can you explain why it is, from your purview, why it is that older men and younger woman

04:31:16.920 pairings are really just not very problematic?

04:31:19.280 Yeah, absolutely.

04:31:23.040 They're not very problematic, because if you go back, potentially, hundreds of thousands

04:31:28.580 of years, ancient human civilizations to where we were almost, didn't look the way we look

04:31:33.820 now.

04:31:34.500 But if you look at it, women have concealed ovulation.

04:31:38.120 We can't tell when y'all are fertile.

04:31:39.860 So what do we do?

04:31:40.960 We look at markers of fertility and fecundity, typically the age that when you look essentially

04:31:46.920 analogous, you're most ripe to bear children, or where you have your highest reproductive

04:31:52.360 output.

04:31:53.380 So men are attracted to breasts, waist to hip ratio, curves, the way you're built, your

04:31:59.100 face, everything like that.

04:32:00.860 Your youthfulness, the vibrance that you have when you're young.

04:32:03.640 We're attracted to that, because that signals to us that you're fertile enough to bear kids.

04:32:09.120 Now, older men, if you go look at other societies, because remember, this is a huge world.

04:32:14.980 There are plenty of primitive societies, the Amazon, Africa, et cetera, et cetera.

04:32:19.560 Older men in those tribes that we don't know about, they typically date younger women, because

04:32:25.260 they have the resources to be able to date those younger women and provide for the kids

04:32:29.560 in their communities.

04:32:31.180 So men are naturally attracted to that.

04:32:33.840 We've evolved that.

04:32:34.980 That's why we're attracted to that.

04:32:36.660 And it's icky to y'all, because it's abnormal in Western society.

04:32:39.640 The age gaps here aren't as wide as they are in other places, because we're secular, and

04:32:45.620 we're more modern.

04:32:46.780 So you don't get to experience that.

04:32:48.620 But if we were in a different country or a different culture, you would see that that's

04:32:52.680 actually the norm, and that's actually the more primitive state in which relationships

04:32:56.280 and dating dynamics are in those cultures.

04:32:59.200 So it's actually normal.

04:33:00.160 Yeah, that's fair.

04:33:02.460 Can I also add to that just something that I've observed?

04:33:05.560 A lot of women over here, they want a provider, and yet they do think it's icky to date someone

04:33:12.500 that's older.

04:33:13.380 That just physically does not make sense to me, because how is someone your age is going

04:33:17.200 to be able to provide for you and the family if that's what you want?

04:33:22.740 So yeah, I think overall, I don't see anything icky with it, per se.

04:33:30.900 Also, are there any older men that y'all find attractive?

04:33:35.080 Yes.

04:33:35.380 Celebrity-wise, like Silver Foxes or Salt-N-Pepa?

04:33:41.260 Who?

04:33:42.040 Any with you?

04:33:43.120 I mean, Brad Pitt.

04:33:44.400 Okay.

04:33:44.900 No.

04:33:45.420 Okay.

04:33:45.900 What about you?

04:33:47.100 Like Richard Gere.

04:33:48.560 Okay.

04:33:49.620 Johnny Depp.

04:33:51.180 I second that one.

04:33:53.160 Johnny Depp?

04:33:53.880 Yeah.

04:33:55.280 Conan O'Brien.

04:33:56.760 Okay.

04:33:57.540 Wait.

04:33:58.100 What?

04:33:58.320 Yeah, I've been into Johnny Depp since I was a kid.

04:34:08.060 Oh, yeah.

04:34:08.780 I agree with you.

04:34:09.460 I can't think of any names.

04:34:10.440 You're way too far from the map.

04:34:11.480 I agree with you.

04:34:12.200 I can't literally think of any names.

04:34:14.040 But do you find some older men?

04:34:15.500 They do look more distinguished.

04:34:17.500 Yeah, they do look good.

04:34:18.220 Okay.

04:34:18.740 So with that being said, would you guys be completely off when it comes to date?

04:34:24.000 Like, would you not date them?

04:34:25.540 No, I would.

04:34:26.520 You would, right?

04:34:27.080 Yeah, exactly.

04:34:28.040 Okay.

04:34:28.960 Like, when I reconnected with my Tinder date, who was someone I met in high school, the

04:34:33.500 fact that he looked older, like, really turned me on, and I was really into him because

04:34:37.680 of that.

04:34:38.620 Mm-hmm.

04:34:39.720 Interesting.

04:34:40.620 So when an older guy is attractive, you actually can see yourself dating older men.

04:34:45.720 Hmm.

04:34:47.040 Hmm.

04:34:47.940 Evolutionary sight.

04:34:48.720 There you go, Andrew.

04:34:49.940 Hmm.

04:34:51.320 Um.

04:34:52.660 That's good.

04:34:54.200 Uh, Andrew, did you have, uh, oh, you got pizza.

04:34:56.660 Andrew got pizza.

04:34:57.640 There you go.

04:34:58.680 My turn.

04:34:59.740 There you go.

04:35:00.160 My turn.

04:35:00.800 Yeah, I'll tell you.

04:35:01.920 Uh, did you, Andrew, did you, uh, did you have more, or, uh?

04:35:05.980 No, we can, uh, we can move it on.

04:35:07.840 Okay.

04:35:08.220 I got some notes.

04:35:09.180 That was, uh, that was, uh, that was kind of fun to, to go around and get all of your

04:35:12.260 input on that.

04:35:13.020 I appreciate it, guys.

04:35:14.220 All right.

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04:37:27.440 Uh, we have a couple of dating apps from the girls here.

04:37:29.640 So why don't we, uh, why don't we do those, do some reacts?

04:37:34.560 All right.

04:37:34.700 This is Savannah.

04:37:36.400 Uh, let's, uh, go through it.

04:37:40.400 Looks better in person.

04:37:41.980 Okay.

04:37:44.880 Next.

04:37:47.320 Cool.

04:37:47.980 Next.

04:37:48.400 Uh, let's see.

04:37:51.740 Looking for short-term, open to long-term dating.

04:37:55.060 She's unvaccinated.

04:37:57.640 Oh, communication style is better in person.

04:37:59.840 Love language, time together.

04:38:02.440 Uh, drinks socially on the weekends.

04:38:04.600 Sometimes works out.

04:38:05.740 Next.

04:38:08.060 Five foot seven.

04:38:10.860 Uh, next.

04:38:12.880 Are there prompts?

04:38:13.900 Oh, that's it.

04:38:15.060 Nope.

04:38:15.700 Do you have prompts or?

04:38:17.120 What is that?

04:38:18.400 Oh, I don't know.

04:38:19.440 Okay.

04:38:20.000 Um, so chat, do you swipe yes or no on Savannah?

04:38:27.320 That, that app is so bad.

04:38:29.320 Like the pictures and everything.

04:38:31.020 They weren't?

04:38:31.860 I mean, Tinder's just terrible in general.

04:38:33.900 Wait, do you do OnlyFans?

04:38:35.160 No, I do not.

04:38:35.880 Cause your friend.

04:38:36.800 She's not my friend anymore.

04:38:37.880 Oh, you guys aren't friends?

04:38:38.620 No.

04:38:39.680 Female friendships, brutal as fuck.

04:38:41.720 Mm-hmm.

04:38:42.200 Mm-hmm.

04:38:43.320 And then let's look at Emma's Tinder profile.

04:38:47.300 Uh.

04:38:47.700 Uh, lucky, I make tons of playlists, but lucky, it's like all house and I love it.

04:38:52.940 Mm-hmm.

04:38:53.380 Okay, next.

04:38:55.720 Hot.

04:38:56.320 Okay.

04:38:57.000 I, I didn't know what to put there.

04:38:59.120 Okay.

04:38:59.480 All right, next.

04:39:05.420 You, you went blonde?

04:39:07.040 How long did that last?

04:39:08.100 Uh, I went blonde and then pink and then purple and then black.

04:39:13.180 Okay.

04:39:13.720 And then you said, I want someone who wants to travel with me.

04:39:17.340 My dream job is to run an animal, animal sanctuary.

04:39:20.700 Mm-hmm.

04:39:21.280 Did you see that HBO thing with the, the monkey, what was that fucking, the, the monkey one

04:39:28.680 with the, the chimp, chimpanzees?

04:39:31.140 No.

04:39:32.240 Oh, okay.

04:39:34.060 Uh, interest, travel, secondhand apparel, activism.

04:39:38.040 Okay, next.

04:39:39.040 Oh, is that, that's it?

04:39:41.660 Yeah.

04:39:42.180 Okay.

04:39:42.700 You're into activism.

04:39:43.900 What kind of activism?

04:39:46.760 Animals.

04:39:47.600 Oh, animals.

04:39:47.980 Animal rights, yeah.

04:39:49.060 Are you vegan?

04:39:50.380 I, I was for years.

04:39:53.940 Oh, why did you switch back?

04:39:57.340 I, I don't know.

04:39:58.360 I think I was just kind of tired of it.

04:40:01.460 I'll grow it.

04:40:02.540 Hmm.

04:40:04.260 Okay.

04:40:04.920 What was one of our reacts?

04:40:06.360 Are you eating, you're eating meat?

04:40:08.980 No meat.

04:40:10.580 You just had pepperoni pizza.

04:40:12.320 No, I didn't.

04:40:12.860 Hmm.

04:40:14.920 Are you like pescatarian or, or vegetarian?

04:40:17.880 Um, vegetarian, I'd say.

04:40:21.040 So you don't eat meat?

04:40:22.980 Correct.

04:40:23.620 Wait, you don't eat meat because of a moral dilemma?

04:40:26.240 Yeah.

04:40:27.260 What is the moral dilemma?

04:40:30.360 Just killing of animals for food is bad.

04:40:33.940 I also just don't like the taste of meat.

04:40:36.560 I never have.

04:40:38.200 Okay, so you don't think that killing animals to eat them is bad?

04:40:42.240 I think it's bad, yeah.

04:40:45.580 How come?

04:40:46.220 Because it's murdering a living being for food that we don't necessarily need to eat.

04:40:58.380 So if an animal kills a human, should they go to jail?

04:41:04.980 No, I don't think so.

04:41:06.640 You ever heard of something called bear jail?

04:41:09.860 Bear jail?

04:41:11.200 Yeah, bear jail.

04:41:12.080 So what happens is if an animal, like a bear, for instance, was a nuisance and was killing all the fish, because you, I mean, you have to admit that animals eat animals all the time, right?

04:41:23.260 Yes.

04:41:23.780 Shouldn't we segregate them off from other animals so that these monsters aren't killing all the other animals?

04:41:29.480 No, I think it's natural for animals to eat other animals.

04:41:33.740 I just don't think.

04:41:34.100 Aren't we animals?

04:41:35.040 Wait, I'm sorry.

04:41:35.680 Aren't we animals?

04:41:36.360 Yeah, sure.

04:41:37.680 Then I thought you just said it was natural for animals to eat other animals.

04:41:40.540 Yeah, in my opinion, I don't think humans should eat meat, but that's a whole other subject.

04:41:49.040 Well, we just talked about the primitive societies.

04:41:51.980 What are they supposed to eat?

04:41:54.000 Because they can't just thrive off of plants.

04:41:56.780 Yeah.

04:41:57.420 So what are they supposed to eat?

04:41:59.600 In, like, Western culture today, outside of that, I would say that it's also horrible for the environment as well.

04:42:10.600 No, it's great for the environment.

04:42:12.040 It's great for the environment to thin out, herbivores especially, and that's why we need carnivores around thinning them out all the time.

04:42:19.800 It's fantastic for the environment.

04:42:21.540 Even vegans don't make that argument.

04:42:23.660 Even they know that there's an ecosystem, and inside of that ecosystem, you have to have carnivores thinning out the herbivores.

04:42:30.400 Otherwise, herbivores will eat up all the plants and et cetera.

04:42:32.840 That's what an ecosystem is, a contained system, which is designed so that life flourishes.

04:42:38.480 In order for it to do that, some life has to be thinned out.

04:42:42.040 Sure.

04:42:42.920 Yeah.

04:42:43.820 Yeah.

04:42:44.280 So this would be the same thing, like, if you were to get rid of hunting and things like this, you would have a big problem with herbivores.

04:42:52.580 As we are the apex predator, we've gotten rid of a lot of predators, right?

04:42:56.820 And so because of that, we need to thin out herbivores so that we have that ecosystem, right?

04:43:01.680 Sure.

04:43:02.240 Yeah.

04:43:02.820 Yeah.

04:43:03.380 Yeah.

04:43:04.460 Okay.

04:43:05.500 So moving on to another topic here.

04:43:08.120 Do you guys think that men are insecure, or excuse me, not men, do you think women are insecure?

04:43:13.840 Wait, hold on.

04:43:15.480 No, I had it right the first time.

04:43:17.320 Hold on.

04:43:17.840 Let me play this thing.

04:43:22.820 Oh, boy.

04:43:23.680 Okay.

04:43:23.960 Do you guys think that men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?

04:43:30.140 Um, no, I don't think so.

04:43:32.100 Okay.

04:43:32.900 I don't think so.

04:43:34.060 I don't think so.

04:43:39.500 I don't know, honestly.

04:43:41.500 That sounds like a yes.

04:43:43.840 Why does, I mean, I understand why you guys think it matters, but.

04:43:50.040 Think or no?

04:43:50.880 I mean, everybody's entitled to their opinion.

04:43:54.740 Wait, wait, hold on.

04:43:55.640 Why do we think it matters?

04:43:57.280 Can we, can we ask her what she's, why do we think it matters?

04:44:01.940 I don't know.

04:44:02.680 Going back to the whole car mileage thing, like, why would that even be an argument if

04:44:08.000 it didn't matter?

04:44:09.560 Oh, so you're just using that?

04:44:11.260 I'm using that analogy now.

04:44:13.060 Oh, okay.

04:44:13.920 So there's, there's no deeper understanding of why it might matter to us?

04:44:20.000 I mean.

04:44:20.680 You don't, you don't have an idea?

04:44:21.620 I think it matters just as much to, like, us as it does to you guys.

04:44:25.300 Yeah.

04:44:26.260 Nah.

04:44:27.140 No.

04:44:27.580 But, uh, here, going around the table, we'll get everybody?

04:44:29.960 No, I don't think so.

04:44:31.680 I think it could, but I do not think it necessarily is, overall.

04:44:36.040 Okay, it could, but, all right.

04:44:37.900 No, for insecurity.

04:44:40.120 Okay.

04:44:40.480 All right.

04:44:42.180 Going around the table, also, where do we start?

04:44:47.900 What's your body count, starting with Alex?

04:44:51.280 It's nine.

04:44:52.560 Nine?

04:44:53.160 Yeah.

04:44:53.460 Yeah.

04:44:54.900 Okay.

04:44:57.920 Me?

04:44:58.600 Uh, zero.

04:45:01.020 Four.

04:45:02.160 Not answering that.

04:45:03.420 Oh.

04:45:04.440 I'm a mom.

04:45:05.040 I don't want to do that.

04:45:05.640 Oh, but, uh, but.

04:45:07.880 Do it!

04:45:09.940 Just do it!

04:45:11.160 It's going to play until you, it's, we keep this up.

04:45:13.760 All right.

04:45:14.920 11.

04:45:15.820 Yesterday, you said tomorrow.

04:45:17.520 About 45 seconds.

04:45:19.180 I said 11.

04:45:20.820 I said 11.

04:45:22.360 No, we got to let this play until.

04:45:24.640 Some people dream of success, while you're going to wake up and work hard at it.

04:45:31.320 Nothing is impossible.

04:45:33.860 Damn.

04:45:34.980 How long do you want to take dance, huh?

04:45:36.640 Or anyone else would quit, and you're not going to stop there.

04:45:40.820 No, what are you waiting for?

04:45:43.540 Do it!

04:45:45.240 I didn't think I've ever seen a full one.

04:45:48.500 Do it!

04:45:49.640 Yes, you can!

04:45:51.480 Just do it!

04:45:53.200 Mm-hmm.

04:45:58.840 11.

04:45:59.600 Oh.

04:46:00.600 I said it, this is the third time.

04:46:02.320 This is the third time.

04:46:03.320 Yeah, that's why I was like, are we just, yeah, I said 11.

04:46:06.200 Wait, earlier?

04:46:07.080 Yeah, like three times.

04:46:08.560 This is the fourth time.

04:46:09.860 I just think you two heard it, but the girls definitely acknowledged it.

04:46:12.160 Oh, it's 11.

04:46:13.080 I was just watching it, like, what's going on.

04:46:15.420 Okay.

04:46:15.680 We can play it.

04:46:18.820 We can play it all night.

04:46:20.000 We can play it.

04:46:20.720 It's fine.

04:46:21.400 Do it!

04:46:24.200 Just do it!

04:46:27.200 Yes, you can!

04:46:29.160 Just do it!

04:46:30.140 Can we play it again?

04:46:36.900 I'll give you, I will give you a $2 bill if you answer the question.

04:46:42.660 Holy shit, you know how much that's worth?

04:46:44.620 It's worth a lot.

04:46:45.300 Is that what he's saying?

04:46:46.120 Is that one of your original $2 bills?

04:46:48.260 Yeah, and it's a series, it's a series A one, too.

04:46:51.380 Oh, dude.

04:46:52.260 Yeah, you're going to want to take the two.

04:46:54.400 $2 bill.

04:46:55.880 I got one.

04:46:56.600 I don't know if I'd believe him.

04:46:57.720 Where's the facts?

04:46:58.080 Answer the question.

04:46:59.680 No.

04:47:01.460 All right, you would have been a bajillion dollars richer.

04:47:05.320 Okay, what about you?

04:47:07.780 I actually don't know.

04:47:09.720 Range?

04:47:14.820 No, more than 20.

04:47:17.420 Actually, less than 20.

04:47:18.640 Much less than 20.

04:47:19.540 Whoa.

04:47:20.360 Okay, hold on.

04:47:21.460 That's a hell of a variance.

04:47:22.460 Hold on.

04:47:24.240 So, 50?

04:47:25.460 No, no, no.

04:47:25.980 Less than 20.

04:47:28.080 Okay.

04:47:28.860 So, you can make your own conclusion.

04:47:30.060 Emma?

04:47:30.620 No comment.

04:47:31.520 Oh, Emma, Emma, Emma.

04:47:32.840 Bro, you got to answer this.

04:47:33.880 Come on.

04:47:34.280 Emma?

04:47:35.540 How many $2 bills do you have?

04:47:38.180 I collect them.

04:47:40.180 You do?

04:47:41.140 I actually do.

04:47:45.120 So, you want to give us a range?

04:47:48.100 Sure.

04:47:48.960 Under 10.

04:47:51.020 Less than 10?

04:47:52.140 Correct.

04:47:52.680 Less than 5?

04:47:53.300 Uh, no comment.

04:47:57.740 Gotcha, bitch!

04:47:59.520 I gave you a range.

04:48:00.560 Where's my $2 bill?

04:48:02.700 Oh, I didn't give...

04:48:03.680 What did I say?

04:48:04.460 I gave you a range.

04:48:06.220 Everybody else gets a range.

04:48:07.480 No, he's just trying to bribe me.

04:48:08.520 It's okay.

04:48:09.480 Multiply it by 3, and that's the real number.

04:48:12.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:48:13.580 Okay.

04:48:13.860 Okay.

04:48:13.960 Less than 10?

04:48:22.360 Yeah.

04:48:23.180 So, 9?

04:48:24.540 No, no, no, no, no.

04:48:25.860 No comment.

04:48:26.680 Oh, okay.

04:48:28.540 All right.

04:48:30.300 That's cool.

04:48:31.600 That's cool.

04:48:33.180 Zero.

04:48:35.740 Mm-hmm.

04:48:36.760 Me too.

04:48:37.660 I'm also a virgin.

04:48:40.460 Let's see here.

04:48:41.900 Notes.

04:48:42.520 Oh, we never...

04:48:43.120 Okay, Kendra.

04:48:43.980 What about you?

04:48:45.120 Huh?

04:48:45.900 What about you?

04:48:46.740 I answered before.

04:48:48.000 I don't answer this.

04:48:49.080 Yeah, can you answer, please?

04:48:51.340 No.

04:48:52.420 So...

04:48:52.820 So you're going to play the Shia LaBeouf?

04:48:54.260 No, I think that's fair.

04:48:55.780 As soon as all of you answer.

04:48:59.140 Okay.

04:48:59.940 I don't care to know that bad.

04:49:01.940 No, okay.

04:49:02.660 Fair enough.

04:49:04.800 Kendra, you said,

04:49:05.740 why do men suck at communication

04:49:07.100 and not want to commit to women anymore?

04:49:10.460 No.

04:49:10.660 I actually don't think men suck at communication.

04:49:16.880 I think women suck at communication.

04:49:19.300 So who should be the first to say, like, what they want out of it?

04:49:22.620 What do you mean?

04:49:23.520 Like, somebody has to speak up.

04:49:27.040 Women?

04:49:28.500 You're saying men have a problem.

04:49:30.360 Well, these are two different...

04:49:31.540 I didn't say men have a problem.

04:49:32.120 These are two different statements.

04:49:34.000 Why do men suck at communication

04:49:35.280 and not want to commit to...

04:49:37.260 So those are two separate conversations.

04:49:39.040 So let's start with the communication one.

04:49:40.840 So, okay.

04:49:41.120 In what way do men suck at communication?

04:49:44.380 What I meant by that statement was

04:49:46.120 that they don't say when they want to commit in the beginning.

04:49:50.460 Well, if...

04:49:51.180 If they do or not.

04:49:52.000 This is like women who say,

04:49:53.600 he never texted me.

04:49:56.800 It's like, did y'all...

04:49:58.300 Did you text him?

04:49:59.400 No.

04:50:00.340 Oh.

04:50:01.200 So then, like...

04:50:02.040 Nobody did anything then.

04:50:04.400 Right.

04:50:04.940 But so why is the burden on men

04:50:06.580 to initiate the commitment conversation?

04:50:09.580 I don't know.

04:50:11.120 It's not.

04:50:12.700 You're putting it on them.

04:50:14.120 I never said that.

04:50:15.160 You just said men have a problem with communicating.

04:50:17.480 I didn't.

04:50:17.780 I said they're not good at it.

04:50:19.140 If you have a problem with him...

04:50:19.780 Exactly.

04:50:20.340 So you can reach out and tell him, like, hey...

04:50:22.260 Maybe I'm not good at communication either.

04:50:24.080 Exactly.

04:50:24.280 I never said I was good at it.

04:50:25.340 Oh, that's fair.

04:50:26.020 I didn't say you were either.

04:50:27.440 So everyone just sucks.

04:50:28.480 You're starting it, girl.

04:50:31.340 Yeah.

04:50:31.740 I never said that I was, like, good at communication.

04:50:34.980 I'm just saying, what do you do

04:50:36.500 if two people don't communicate to each other

04:50:37.860 and nothing happens?

04:50:39.400 Well, yeah.

04:50:39.820 I mean, that's kind of the disadvantage

04:50:41.220 of being on the dating market

04:50:42.880 if you're not a good mate.

04:50:44.900 Mm-hmm.

04:50:46.160 Yeah.

04:50:47.160 Closed mouths don't get fed.

04:50:49.040 Even if you do communicate, though,

04:50:51.280 sometimes it doesn't make you, like,

04:50:54.660 even a good mate for them still.

04:50:56.040 So honestly, I don't think...

04:50:57.300 It's a step further than not communicating,

04:50:59.320 especially if you want something

04:51:00.680 and you're not voicing it.

04:51:03.280 Okay.

04:51:03.640 Well, if he's not communicating,

04:51:04.660 then he's not a good mate for me either.

04:51:06.040 So then we're just not compatible.

04:51:07.360 That's what I just said.

04:51:08.520 So, I mean, y'all both end up single.

04:51:11.020 Well, I wouldn't say single.

04:51:12.980 I mean, we're just not compatible together, us two.

04:51:15.640 So then we need to go to somebody else.

04:51:17.820 So, but you said it's a problem.

04:51:19.820 So if it's a problem

04:51:20.760 or men aren't good at it,

04:51:22.100 then that means you're not getting

04:51:23.440 the outcome that you want.

04:51:24.840 So then you have to look at,

04:51:25.880 well, what should you do

04:51:26.800 in order to take a step towards

04:51:28.380 that desired outcome?

04:51:29.700 Maybe go for more expressive men

04:51:31.780 who are more confident

04:51:33.660 in saying what they feel.

04:51:34.580 So you want the man to say something

04:51:36.620 to you first regardless?

04:51:38.820 I do, personally.

04:51:40.280 Because in my, like, experiences,

04:51:43.220 it's just never,

04:51:45.380 it's never worked.

04:51:49.120 So if it's never worked

04:51:51.420 and you always wait for the guy,

04:51:53.520 then why don't you try saying something

04:51:55.560 and see if that gives you

04:51:56.740 a different outcome?

04:51:57.620 I have.

04:51:57.940 And I have asked, you know,

04:51:59.280 what do you want?

04:52:00.120 They'll say literally, you know,

04:52:03.200 like, you're my girl

04:52:03.980 and then go act a different way still.

04:52:06.320 Like, even if I do ask,

04:52:08.220 they're still not being honest

04:52:09.380 in their communication.

04:52:10.600 So that's why I kind of

04:52:11.460 just stopped asking

04:52:12.180 and I just wait for them

04:52:12.940 to make the move.

04:52:14.380 Yeah.

04:52:14.880 Okay.

04:52:15.460 How do you vet the people

04:52:17.480 that you're dating?

04:52:18.660 Like, do you ask, like,

04:52:20.960 yeah, like, how do you, like,

04:52:22.980 you know, approach with dating

04:52:25.900 at the beginning

04:52:26.900 to see if you're compatible

04:52:28.700 to even, like, move on further,

04:52:33.320 you know, to actually start

04:52:34.600 the whole dating process?

04:52:36.160 Like, if you actually want

04:52:37.640 the same things to begin with.

04:52:39.560 See.

04:52:41.000 Because, like, that,

04:52:41.880 I feel like that's something

04:52:42.700 that should be addressed

04:52:43.640 the very first time

04:52:44.900 that you meet each other.

04:52:45.980 Yeah, but what do you do

04:52:46.720 if two people don't address

04:52:47.960 it to each other?

04:52:48.580 You can't communicate,

04:52:49.780 so then you're just not compatible.

04:52:51.360 Yeah, then how do you go about...

04:52:53.780 I don't.

04:52:54.160 Okay, so you just, like,

04:52:56.860 don't address it at all,

04:52:58.260 but you expect somebody else to.

04:53:00.160 I mean, everybody has

04:53:00.980 their own communication patterns.

04:53:02.360 Yeah, exactly.

04:53:03.240 So, like, that's what I'm asking.

04:53:04.340 Like, how do you...

04:53:05.520 I prefer the man

04:53:06.620 to take initiation first.

04:53:08.880 That's my preference.

04:53:09.780 So whoever approaches you,

04:53:12.820 you just don't even question them.

04:53:14.760 You don't question what they want,

04:53:17.060 where their views lie.

04:53:18.620 I think it's, like, to me,

04:53:21.380 it's kind of obvious,

04:53:22.340 like, what they want.

04:53:24.620 Why?

04:53:25.180 Why is that?

04:53:25.560 I mean, if they're asking you

04:53:26.260 to come over at 2 a.m.,

04:53:26.980 it's obvious what they want.

04:53:27.760 If they ask to take you

04:53:28.380 on a date at 5 p.m.,

04:53:29.200 it's obvious what they want.

04:53:31.420 Why?

04:53:31.940 Okay.

04:53:33.280 I'm...

04:53:33.560 I'm sorry.

04:53:35.480 I'm misunderstanding, like...

04:53:36.800 Yeah.

04:53:37.100 I mean, we have different

04:53:37.740 relationship things.

04:53:38.860 Yeah.

04:53:39.060 Like, how do open relationships?

04:53:40.860 Well, I don't have

04:53:41.820 an open relationship, by the way,

04:53:43.560 but it's, like, just in general.

04:53:45.020 Well, what I'm misunderstanding

04:53:48.020 is specifically, like,

04:53:49.220 yeah, they want you

04:53:50.120 to come over at 2 a.m.

04:53:51.460 So it's, like,

04:53:53.340 why do you assume

04:53:55.200 what they want?

04:53:56.900 It's, like,

04:53:57.300 and if they take you out

04:53:58.180 for a date,

04:53:58.680 why do you assume

04:53:59.280 what they want?

04:53:59.880 Instead of just asking,

04:54:01.400 hey, like,

04:54:02.320 what are you looking for

04:54:05.020 in a relationship?

04:54:06.060 Whether or not

04:54:06.720 they ask you that

04:54:07.740 or you ask them first,

04:54:09.360 why does that really matter?

04:54:10.760 Like, it should be

04:54:11.600 a two-way communication

04:54:13.040 street regardless,

04:54:14.620 and that's, I guess,

04:54:16.160 is what my question is.

04:54:17.020 Why should I have to be

04:54:17.700 the first one to do it?

04:54:18.460 I'm not saying

04:54:19.120 you should be.

04:54:19.880 I'm saying even

04:54:20.500 if they ask you first,

04:54:22.420 like, you should ask them back

04:54:24.180 so that you are aware

04:54:25.640 of what they want.

04:54:26.920 So it's, like,

04:54:27.460 that's my question.

04:54:28.500 Like, how do you vet the man

04:54:30.340 prior?

04:54:30.580 Hold on.

04:54:31.300 Wait, you said...

04:54:32.680 You said you shouldn't

04:54:34.420 have to be the first one

04:54:35.540 to do it.

04:54:36.880 I didn't say I shouldn't.

04:54:38.260 I said why should I...

04:54:39.700 Oh, sure.

04:54:40.360 Okay, that's...

04:54:40.900 So you said why should I

04:54:42.140 be the first one to do it?

04:54:43.880 I thought...

04:54:44.280 Didn't she not say

04:54:45.020 I shouldn't have to be

04:54:46.280 the first one to do it?

04:54:47.460 Well, what I meant was

04:54:48.360 why should I have to

04:54:49.400 if I prefer, like,

04:54:51.220 the man to take

04:54:51.700 the, like, first initiative?

04:54:53.840 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

04:54:54.420 Wait, wait.

04:54:55.560 The first words

04:54:57.280 that you expect

04:54:58.580 out of a man...

04:54:59.700 No.

04:55:00.900 Like, literally,

04:55:01.860 he meets you?

04:55:02.980 No, absolutely not.

04:55:03.960 That's what I'm saying.

04:55:04.860 Oh, so what does that

04:55:05.740 have to do...

04:55:06.260 You use the word

04:55:06.920 first initiative.

04:55:08.840 Like, you know,

04:55:09.480 after we're hanging out

04:55:10.280 and getting to know each other.

04:55:11.080 Yeah, that's not

04:55:11.540 first initiative.

04:55:12.720 First initiative

04:55:13.460 has already...

04:55:14.760 First, second, third,

04:55:16.500 hundredth initiative

04:55:17.540 has already...

04:55:18.440 The burden's already

04:55:19.100 been placed on the man.

04:55:20.240 For what?

04:55:21.180 Do you approach men

04:55:22.220 or do they approach you?

04:55:23.260 They approach me.

04:55:24.420 Have you ever gone up

04:55:25.340 to a man?

04:55:25.940 No.

04:55:26.760 Oh, okay.

04:55:27.500 First initiative.

04:55:28.740 If a man approaches you,

04:55:30.320 is he asking for the number

04:55:31.480 or are you asking

04:55:32.180 for the number?

04:55:32.880 He is.

04:55:33.520 Oh, okay.

04:55:33.860 And then who's texting

04:55:35.120 who first?

04:55:36.640 You or him?

04:55:37.360 That depends.

04:55:38.100 Okay, he's probably

04:55:38.760 texting you first, right?

04:55:39.900 I mean, I text first, too.

04:55:41.200 It goes both ways.

04:55:42.420 When you say you text first,

04:55:44.460 like, when you first meet?

04:55:46.700 So you ask for...

04:55:47.260 Or you're already, like,

04:55:48.020 dating the dude

04:55:48.740 and it's...

04:55:49.440 It's a...

04:55:50.300 You've fucked for three months

04:55:51.860 and you'll send a first text

04:55:53.920 three months

04:55:54.480 into the relationship.

04:55:55.880 What do you mean?

04:55:56.700 Okay, who pays for the date?

04:55:58.600 50-50.

04:55:59.980 All the time for you?

04:56:01.320 I mean, I'll offer,

04:56:02.420 but if he wants to pay for it,

04:56:03.520 then he'll pay for it.

04:56:05.880 How many first dates

04:56:06.700 have you been on?

04:56:10.600 I don't know.

04:56:11.940 Not a lot.

04:56:12.540 I don't really date like that.

04:56:14.920 Well, okay, hold on.

04:56:16.380 You don't really date like that.

04:56:17.480 What do you mean?

04:56:18.420 Like, I don't really go on dates.

04:56:20.100 So you just go over

04:56:20.920 to the guy's house?

04:56:21.840 No.

04:56:22.340 Then how the fuck

04:56:23.260 do you meet dudes?

04:56:24.920 I don't.

04:56:26.020 Because they don't approach you?

04:56:27.840 No.

04:56:28.140 I mean, yeah.

04:56:29.160 What?

04:56:30.680 I don't have an issue

04:56:31.520 with it, though.

04:56:32.160 So...

04:56:32.600 I pick who I pick

04:56:34.460 and if they approach me,

04:56:35.860 they approach me.

04:56:36.780 That's just the way it goes.

04:56:38.460 So you only pick

04:56:39.240 amongst those

04:56:40.040 who approach you?

04:56:41.740 Because that's basically

04:56:42.540 what you say.

04:56:42.620 I mean, yeah.

04:56:42.960 I'll see a cute guy

04:56:43.980 and I'll be like,

04:56:44.740 oh yeah, he's really cute.

04:56:45.500 That's really great.

04:56:46.100 What is this dating debacle?

04:56:48.140 It's a total dating boogaloo.

04:56:50.320 Like, you never,

04:56:51.400 ever approach a guy, ever.

04:56:53.820 No.

04:56:54.380 They don't.

04:56:55.000 They don't, really.

04:56:56.520 So, what about

04:56:57.740 going for the first kiss?

04:56:58.660 Do you do that

04:56:59.440 or does the guy?

04:57:02.240 I think we both do

04:57:03.280 at the same time.

04:57:04.100 That's bullshit,

04:57:04.920 but okay.

04:57:05.920 Probably me.

04:57:07.380 Probably you?

04:57:08.120 Yeah.

04:57:08.700 Press X to doubt.

04:57:10.460 Huh?

04:57:11.000 And then when it comes

04:57:11.920 to moving things forward sexually,

04:57:13.260 is that something,

04:57:13.760 like the first time,

04:57:15.700 first kiss,

04:57:16.760 first time moving things forward

04:57:18.200 physically,

04:57:19.120 are you making that move

04:57:20.600 or is the guy...

04:57:21.120 What move?

04:57:23.260 Let me take your top off.

04:57:24.640 Let me take your clothes off.

04:57:26.280 Let second base,

04:57:27.360 third base.

04:57:28.560 Huh?

04:57:28.860 I don't really do that.

04:57:30.220 So, you're a virgin.

04:57:31.500 No, I don't do that

04:57:32.440 like on the first date.

04:57:33.200 Oh, you don't make the move

04:57:35.100 is what you're saying.

04:57:35.680 Yeah.

04:57:35.920 I thought you were saying

04:57:37.040 I don't do...

04:57:38.680 Okay.

04:57:40.560 Well, it seems to me

04:57:41.640 that the man has taken

04:57:42.900 first, second, third, fourth,

04:57:44.060 fifth, dozen,

04:57:45.960 et cetera,

04:57:47.600 initiative.

04:57:48.400 So,

04:57:50.920 what's this talk about

04:57:53.780 men not taking initiative?

04:57:56.380 Like the one thing

04:57:57.340 y'all women have to do

04:57:58.580 really when it comes

04:58:00.040 to the initiative

04:58:00.700 is like trying to lock down

04:58:03.020 the relationship.

04:58:04.280 Reciprocate.

04:58:05.300 They don't even reciprocate, bro.

04:58:07.660 It's like we get you,

04:58:10.100 we carry you

04:58:11.520 to like we carry you

04:58:13.900 right to the finish line

04:58:15.180 and then all you have to do

04:58:17.520 oh, you want to be my boyfriend?

04:58:19.720 That's it, bro.

04:58:20.380 That's all...

04:58:20.860 Really?

04:58:21.220 That's the hard work for you.

04:58:22.680 Really?

04:58:22.880 That's it.

04:58:23.380 Oh, you want to be my boyfriend?

04:58:24.640 I'm going to try that.

04:58:25.700 And then the guy has to

04:58:26.860 along the way

04:58:28.060 he has to face

04:58:29.880 all the steps of rejection

04:58:31.800 along the way.

04:58:32.760 You reject the first kiss.

04:58:34.140 You reject the number.

04:58:35.040 You reject the initial approach.

04:58:37.300 Men have to literally

04:58:38.300 carry women

04:58:39.240 in relationships.

04:58:40.060 What if you don't reject

04:58:40.720 any of it

04:58:41.100 and you accept it?

04:58:42.100 Doesn't that mean

04:58:42.720 that I like you?

04:58:43.580 Doesn't that mean

04:58:44.060 I want to be your girlfriend?

04:58:44.420 It's the risk of rejection

04:58:45.840 at every single point

04:58:46.900 where men

04:58:47.380 has to take initiative.

04:58:49.000 There's the risk of rejection.

04:58:50.900 But it's like

04:58:51.560 if I like the person

04:58:52.700 and you know

04:58:53.700 I want a relationship

04:58:54.640 Right, but we

04:58:54.860 not only

04:58:55.240 even if we know

04:58:56.160 you fucking love us

04:58:57.640 and we know

04:58:58.400 we're going to get

04:58:59.260 success when we take

04:59:01.120 whatever step of initiative

04:59:02.260 it is

04:59:02.820 the effort still falls

04:59:05.120 on us to do it.

04:59:07.480 Y'all are passive

04:59:08.660 as fuck.

04:59:10.160 I am.

04:59:10.920 Yeah, you

04:59:11.340 okay, thank you

04:59:12.160 from the...

04:59:12.620 I know I am.

04:59:14.380 Yeah, y'all are passive

04:59:15.380 as fuck

04:59:15.920 and then y'all complain

04:59:17.220 oh, but this one extra thing

04:59:19.480 of

04:59:20.860 oh, but he won't ask

04:59:22.420 for the commitment

04:59:23.100 bro, that's on y'all.

04:59:24.960 Why don't y'all do

04:59:25.720 one little thing?

04:59:27.480 Yeah, so then like

04:59:28.160 they suck at communication

04:59:29.780 because you're

04:59:30.420 you're not communicating

04:59:31.480 whatsoever?

04:59:33.000 Well

04:59:33.440 no, no, no

04:59:35.620 not at all

04:59:37.000 I didn't say

04:59:38.440 like

04:59:38.900 like

04:59:39.980 this is just

04:59:41.780 throwing me in loops

04:59:42.540 and loops

04:59:43.000 it's all around

04:59:43.780 same shit

04:59:44.720 like it's all around

04:59:45.720 like

04:59:46.780 wait, what?

04:59:48.020 It's all

04:59:48.560 it all goes

04:59:49.200 literally back around

04:59:50.020 in the same circle

04:59:50.600 what does

04:59:51.700 this whole conversation

04:59:53.420 okay, well

04:59:55.100 I'm not sure

04:59:55.860 totally what that means

04:59:56.740 but

04:59:56.940 essentially

04:59:57.800 it's just like

04:59:58.480 y'all have this expectation

05:00:00.060 that men take

05:00:01.000 all the initiative

05:00:01.760 and it's like

05:00:03.240 we literally

05:00:04.740 have to

05:00:05.580 handhold you

05:00:06.800 to the finish line

05:00:08.320 we have to

05:00:09.140 carry you

05:00:09.920 it's video game

05:00:11.440 term carry

05:00:12.060 to essentially

05:00:12.880 take a

05:00:13.600 inexperienced person

05:00:15.220 and basically

05:00:16.140 if you're playing

05:00:17.300 a video game

05:00:17.960 bring them to the W

05:00:19.460 that's what dating

05:00:21.520 y'all is like

05:00:22.720 because you don't take

05:00:23.980 really

05:00:24.420 look, not all women

05:00:25.620 some women will

05:00:26.380 be a bit more

05:00:27.800 take a bit more

05:00:29.180 initiative

05:00:29.460 you want a dominant woman

05:00:29.700 or you want a submissive woman

05:00:30.900 no, not

05:00:31.380 well, you can still be

05:00:32.760 submissive

05:00:33.360 and feminine

05:00:34.440 but also like

05:00:35.800 take a

05:00:37.180 contribute

05:00:40.140 attempt to contribute

05:00:41.500 equally

05:00:42.060 in the way that you can

05:00:43.400 in a feminine way

05:00:44.720 towards building

05:00:45.980 and starting a relationship

05:00:47.520 look

05:00:48.740 it is what it is

05:00:49.720 I'm just simply

05:00:51.660 I'm just pointing out

05:00:53.000 what is

05:00:53.680 okay

05:00:54.120 so here's how it is

05:00:56.100 okay

05:00:56.480 we have to do

05:00:57.520 all the work

05:00:58.020 we have to take

05:01:00.300 all the steps

05:01:00.980 we have to face

05:01:01.680 all the rejection

05:01:02.400 and we carry you

05:01:03.740 we handhold you

05:01:04.580 to the finish line

05:01:05.620 and then you don't ask

05:01:07.680 to be my girlfriend

05:01:08.320 after that

05:01:08.940 after all that

05:01:10.740 you don't ask

05:01:11.500 wait, so just to be clear

05:01:12.760 I just said

05:01:13.540 that we do all the work

05:01:14.660 and you're like

05:01:15.240 well, you could do

05:01:15.940 a little more

05:01:16.500 that's

05:01:17.900 is that your argument?

05:01:18.740 is that your argument?

05:01:19.800 do you run

05:01:20.420 the lap around the track

05:01:21.680 just to not

05:01:22.300 pass the finish line?

05:01:25.320 well, see

05:01:25.580 this is the

05:01:26.120 this is how

05:01:27.120 why men are

05:01:27.860 really dissatisfied

05:01:28.920 I think

05:01:29.420 when it comes to dating

05:01:30.220 is

05:01:30.960 do you guys

05:01:32.080 want to put in

05:01:32.660 any effort

05:01:33.460 to actually

05:01:33.900 contributing

05:01:34.460 to the start

05:01:35.180 and building

05:01:35.660 of a relationship

05:01:36.360 or do you

05:01:37.420 want us to just

05:01:38.080 handhold you

05:01:38.780 all the way

05:01:40.020 fucking there?

05:01:41.620 I think it's

05:01:41.940 a little more than that

05:01:42.720 well, I kind of think

05:01:43.800 it's worse in a way

05:01:44.800 because

05:01:45.380 the assumption here

05:01:46.620 is like

05:01:47.020 you get to the

05:01:48.020 finish line

05:01:48.500 there's a prize

05:01:49.280 right?

05:01:50.080 that's why you get

05:01:50.700 to the finish line

05:01:51.340 there's some kind of

05:01:51.900 like reward

05:01:52.680 here

05:01:53.240 right?

05:01:53.860 that's the idea

05:01:54.920 and I think

05:01:56.780 kind of my problem

05:01:58.240 here

05:01:58.580 my rebuttal

05:01:59.340 would be

05:01:59.840 I just don't think

05:02:01.260 that most women

05:02:02.520 are worth

05:02:03.060 whatever the reward

05:02:04.200 of passing the finish line

05:02:05.420 are

05:02:05.800 right?

05:02:06.860 I just don't think

05:02:07.620 that's worth

05:02:08.880 passing the finish line

05:02:10.080 for the reward

05:02:10.660 so when the idea

05:02:11.380 is like

05:02:11.900 well, I'm the prize

05:02:13.260 and you should

05:02:14.340 run around the track

05:02:15.460 to get through

05:02:15.860 the finish line

05:02:16.560 because I'm the reward

05:02:17.560 I think that

05:02:18.980 more men

05:02:20.040 would do better

05:02:21.000 by rejecting

05:02:21.840 that concept

05:02:22.520 and saying

05:02:23.120 well, you know

05:02:24.000 I'm not so sure

05:02:24.820 that that's

05:02:26.760 particularly rewarding

05:02:28.120 I'm actually

05:02:30.240 just to go off

05:02:31.020 of that

05:02:31.300 if you're always

05:02:32.200 passive

05:02:32.960 and you don't

05:02:33.740 ever contribute

05:02:34.540 anything

05:02:35.000 like why

05:02:35.960 would anyone

05:02:36.860 offer you

05:02:38.460 the actual

05:02:39.220 commitment

05:02:39.800 to begin with

05:02:40.760 if you're

05:02:41.840 literally

05:02:42.440 just

05:02:42.920 in the background

05:02:44.140 just accepting

05:02:45.340 whatever they're doing

05:02:46.460 and not actually

05:02:47.580 putting in

05:02:48.680 any of the effort

05:02:49.520 why would they

05:02:50.300 want to be

05:02:51.160 committed to you

05:02:51.740 in the first place?

05:02:53.020 Yeah, that's a good

05:02:53.540 problem

05:02:53.760 that's probably why

05:02:54.340 I'm saying that

05:02:54.540 I actually just had

05:02:55.920 this conversation

05:02:56.480 with the girl I date

05:02:57.260 because our dynamic

05:02:58.780 was kind of like that

05:02:59.660 in the start

05:03:00.460 and I said

05:03:01.020 she was like

05:03:01.800 well, you could have

05:03:02.500 said something

05:03:02.940 but we're dating now

05:03:03.940 because she said something

05:03:05.180 and only because

05:03:06.700 she said something

05:03:07.640 because I don't know you

05:03:09.620 the only thing

05:03:10.100 the only thing

05:03:11.020 I do know

05:03:11.560 is that I'm

05:03:12.120 physically attracted

05:03:13.000 to you

05:03:13.460 and you have to

05:03:14.480 give me some

05:03:15.080 incentive to want

05:03:16.100 to commit to you

05:03:17.000 yes, we can link up

05:03:18.620 we can have sex

05:03:19.840 but we ain't having

05:03:20.860 no conversations

05:03:21.720 deeper than

05:03:22.480 God knows what

05:03:23.680 we're not getting

05:03:24.400 to know each other

05:03:25.260 any further

05:03:25.820 and when I do

05:03:26.620 try to talk to you

05:03:27.460 or whatever

05:03:27.880 you know, it's just

05:03:28.860 kind of bland

05:03:29.660 it's like we're not

05:03:31.040 building an actual

05:03:31.840 connection

05:03:32.380 I have to be

05:03:33.560 incentivized to want

05:03:34.380 to commit to you

05:03:34.840 I'm like, what am I

05:03:35.460 getting?

05:03:36.020 Because we're already

05:03:36.620 sleeping together

05:03:37.200 I already got what I want

05:03:38.280 so if you want

05:03:39.280 commitment then show

05:03:40.160 me what there is

05:03:40.860 to commit to

05:03:41.400 what am I getting?

05:03:42.740 Otherwise, I'm just

05:03:43.560 going to keep doing me

05:03:44.580 and then when you

05:03:45.360 decide, oh, you know

05:03:46.480 I actually like him

05:03:47.660 and you become

05:03:48.420 overwhelmed with that

05:03:49.200 feeling, you better

05:03:50.320 open your mouth

05:03:51.000 before the next woman

05:03:52.420 come along and do

05:03:53.580 something like, yo,

05:03:54.340 I'm doing this for you

05:03:55.120 I'm doing this

05:03:55.840 how was your day today?

05:03:56.840 I miss you

05:03:57.480 I want to talk to you

05:03:58.240 I haven't talked to you

05:03:59.060 X amount of hours

05:04:00.480 this, that, and the third

05:04:01.180 I'm seeing that she's

05:04:02.300 actually showing me

05:04:03.400 that she likes me

05:04:04.420 you can smash me

05:04:05.800 but you can smash

05:04:06.460 anybody

05:04:06.880 and a lot of modern

05:04:07.920 women do just smash

05:04:08.960 anybody

05:04:09.220 that's also why I

05:04:10.600 just don't jump to

05:04:11.300 commit to a woman

05:04:11.960 because I know this

05:04:12.500 woman done already

05:04:13.080 slept with other

05:04:13.620 people

05:04:13.920 I know she done

05:04:14.740 been in situations

05:04:15.340 I know she done

05:04:16.300 did X, Y, Z

05:04:16.980 so why would I

05:04:17.880 jump to commit to

05:04:18.560 that if she's not

05:04:19.100 showing me what I'm

05:04:19.900 getting in the

05:04:20.360 commitment?

05:04:20.960 She gotta show me

05:04:21.680 that's how I ended

05:04:23.880 up dating a girl

05:04:24.440 I date now

05:04:24.920 because she opened

05:04:25.440 her fucking mouth

05:04:26.060 I only want you

05:04:28.480 I got a girl

05:04:29.720 pair of balls

05:04:30.340 what?

05:04:32.860 I guess so

05:04:33.760 I just

05:04:34.600 I guess kind of

05:04:35.540 some of the way

05:04:36.540 I kind of think

05:04:37.160 about it

05:04:37.480 I hear a lot of

05:04:38.280 women complain

05:04:38.900 like oh

05:04:39.840 at the beginning

05:04:40.520 at the start

05:04:41.220 he put in all

05:04:41.820 this effort

05:04:42.320 but now that

05:04:43.140 we're in a

05:04:43.780 relationship

05:04:44.260 or we've been

05:04:44.880 dating for a while

05:04:45.640 like that effort

05:04:46.800 stopped

05:04:47.340 but it's like

05:04:48.320 I almost view

05:04:49.360 that as

05:04:50.380 well we put in

05:04:51.680 all the effort

05:04:52.320 at the beginning

05:04:52.860 and we have

05:04:54.280 effort fatigue

05:04:55.180 we have initiative

05:04:56.380 fatigue

05:04:56.900 and now we're

05:04:58.420 gonna coast

05:04:59.060 we gotcha

05:05:00.040 we gotcha

05:05:01.100 we did all the

05:05:01.580 work to getcha

05:05:02.300 you didn't do

05:05:03.040 really much

05:05:03.560 and now we'll

05:05:05.040 just coast

05:05:06.360 and we'll do

05:05:07.860 what you do

05:05:08.340 basically

05:05:08.840 just kind of

05:05:10.220 I've noticed

05:05:10.880 though like when

05:05:11.380 I do like do

05:05:12.140 the initiative

05:05:12.640 when I have

05:05:13.760 done in the

05:05:14.160 past

05:05:14.560 that like

05:05:16.560 they just don't

05:05:17.440 reciprocate it

05:05:18.040 so like I just

05:05:19.100 thought you know

05:05:19.500 maybe I'm just

05:05:19.980 pushing people

05:05:20.360 away

05:05:20.720 or they just

05:05:22.180 didn't like you

05:05:22.800 could be that

05:05:24.760 could be

05:05:25.580 anyways

05:05:27.200 how does one

05:05:28.640 know

05:05:28.860 I'll finish up

05:05:29.880 the rest of

05:05:30.540 the notes here

05:05:31.040 actually we gotta

05:05:31.840 do the bow

05:05:32.240 video because

05:05:32.740 I don't know

05:05:33.000 if you guys

05:05:33.400 recall from

05:05:34.080 the beginning

05:05:34.460 we have

05:05:36.140 Alex here

05:05:38.320 painted me

05:05:39.240 on canvas

05:05:39.980 this little

05:05:42.320 bow

05:05:42.640 thing

05:05:43.660 so let's

05:05:44.880 pull up the

05:05:45.240 bow video

05:05:45.780 this is a

05:05:46.920 video I took

05:05:48.780 of my ex

05:05:49.260 girlfriend

05:05:49.620 and just

05:05:51.980 just to show

05:05:52.580 you what I

05:05:53.020 expect in a

05:05:53.680 relationship

05:05:54.180 boom

05:05:56.280 huge

05:05:57.300 only took me

05:05:57.800 two dates

05:05:58.260 to train her

05:05:59.620 how to get to

05:06:00.940 this point

05:06:01.400 all right

05:06:02.160 this is my

05:06:02.520 this is my

05:06:03.080 apartment

05:06:03.520 I'm like

05:06:04.840 laundry

05:06:05.780 ready to go

05:06:07.500 attentive

05:06:08.540 see look

05:06:09.320 the scampering

05:06:11.360 that's good

05:06:12.440 got the beer

05:06:13.940 ready

05:06:14.300 got the noodles

05:06:15.680 ready

05:06:15.980 got the

05:06:16.500 she fucked up

05:06:17.800 on the tomatoes

05:06:18.380 I don't

05:06:18.780 just whole tomatoes

05:06:20.620 what the fuck

05:06:21.300 but she's

05:06:22.860 yeah that's good

05:06:23.920 stirring the noodles

05:06:24.940 one more time

05:06:25.960 let's hit the

05:06:26.500 plate from the

05:06:27.180 beginning

05:06:27.420 check the

05:06:28.240 bow

05:06:28.440 hold on

05:06:28.900 boom

05:06:30.260 huge

05:06:30.720 I'm still

05:06:32.020 pretty upset

05:06:32.560 about this

05:06:33.040 noodle

05:06:33.520 mixing thing

05:06:34.520 I've told you

05:06:36.020 before that

05:06:36.720 this is distressing

05:06:37.560 for me

05:06:38.140 so

05:06:40.260 when

05:06:41.120 I'm kicking

05:06:42.080 back in front

05:06:42.800 of the television

05:06:43.500 and my wife

05:06:44.240 brings me a meal

05:06:45.060 I expect the

05:06:46.620 noodles

05:06:47.020 if there are

05:06:47.980 noodles

05:06:48.340 and there rarely

05:06:48.940 are

05:06:49.420 to be

05:06:50.040 I don't want

05:06:50.780 to see her

05:06:51.120 mixing anything

05:06:51.920 or making

05:06:52.400 anything

05:06:52.740 I expect

05:06:53.360 it to be

05:06:54.000 pre-mixed

05:06:55.100 and already

05:06:55.760 ready

05:06:56.060 so basically

05:06:57.080 when it's

05:06:57.420 in front

05:06:57.760 of me

05:06:58.200 plus I need

05:06:59.420 to bitch

05:06:59.880 right

05:07:00.120 I need to

05:07:00.380 be like

05:07:00.600 ah it's

05:07:00.940 too hot

05:07:01.520 why would you

05:07:02.840 give it to me

05:07:03.280 when it's

05:07:03.580 this hot

05:07:04.140 right

05:07:04.420 I need

05:07:04.820 that like

05:07:05.640 bitch factor

05:07:06.280 also

05:07:06.780 but

05:07:07.620 isn't it

05:07:08.880 supposed to

05:07:09.220 be pre-stirred

05:07:09.900 right

05:07:10.120 yeah she

05:07:12.580 fucked up

05:07:13.300 she fucked up

05:07:15.160 and that's why

05:07:15.580 she's your ex

05:07:16.140 I dumped her

05:07:17.420 actually

05:07:17.740 after I took

05:07:18.220 that video

05:07:18.700 it's like

05:07:19.520 how can you

05:07:19.920 fuck up

05:07:20.420 this video

05:07:20.920 I'm taking

05:07:21.500 yeah I

05:07:23.320 dumped her

05:07:23.700 though

05:07:24.000 it was good

05:07:26.400 while it

05:07:26.820 lasted

05:07:27.260 but

05:07:28.240 you know

05:07:30.000 it's okay

05:07:30.460 you can have

05:07:30.860 her

05:07:31.000 you can have

05:07:31.900 her forever

05:07:32.300 now

05:07:32.540 and you know

05:07:33.080 look

05:07:33.300 but she did

05:07:34.260 good

05:07:34.500 she tried

05:07:35.320 her best

05:07:36.020 but you know

05:07:37.360 I am

05:07:37.940 look I'm

05:07:38.780 spoiled

05:07:39.240 I got spoiled

05:07:40.260 she did

05:07:40.860 well okay

05:07:41.560 she did okay

05:07:42.420 she did alright

05:07:43.560 she did alright

05:07:44.340 I'm easy to

05:07:45.580 please

05:07:46.060 I'm easy

05:07:47.060 look I'm

05:07:47.600 very low

05:07:48.240 maintenance

05:07:48.740 it's just a

05:07:50.020 bao and a

05:07:50.560 soda and

05:07:51.020 some noodles

05:07:51.580 man

05:07:51.940 how fucking

05:07:52.500 hard could

05:07:52.860 it be

05:07:53.240 simple

05:07:53.980 simple

05:07:54.600 now Andrew

05:07:55.160 you said

05:07:55.780 all that shit

05:07:56.800 in that video

05:07:57.380 though

05:07:57.640 that's the baseline

05:07:59.920 you said

05:08:01.000 well hold on

05:08:02.080 wait until

05:08:02.980 I think this

05:08:03.560 I'll paraphrase

05:08:04.540 a little bit

05:08:04.960 wait until you get

05:08:06.180 into an argument

05:08:07.140 with a woman

05:08:07.760 ah shit

05:08:09.140 I'll just have you say

05:08:09.940 go ahead Andrew

05:08:10.480 I fucked it up

05:08:11.400 I don't know

05:08:12.680 what you're alluding

05:08:13.280 to here

05:08:13.800 well you were like

05:08:15.760 it was about

05:08:17.640 being submissive

05:08:18.500 and it was

05:08:19.380 something like

05:08:20.000 yeah that shit's

05:08:21.140 easy but wait

05:08:21.960 until you get

05:08:23.400 into an argument

05:08:23.960 with your girl

05:08:24.720 and

05:08:26.780 wait fuck

05:08:28.220 how does it go

05:08:28.920 do you know

05:08:29.640 what I'm talking

05:08:30.040 about Andrew

05:08:30.520 I don't know

05:08:31.680 exactly what

05:08:32.340 you're referencing

05:08:32.900 or maybe

05:08:33.760 you're referencing

05:08:34.440 submission

05:08:35.260 then kind of

05:08:36.800 my idea

05:08:37.260 behind submission

05:08:38.100 is that

05:08:38.540 modern women

05:08:39.120 are against it

05:08:39.940 they kind of

05:08:41.360 will pretend

05:08:41.960 that they're

05:08:42.660 for submitting

05:08:43.240 but they actually

05:08:44.360 think that

05:08:44.860 they're supposed

05:08:45.720 to be leaders

05:08:46.380 and men

05:08:47.260 they're going to

05:08:48.660 submit to you

05:08:49.120 in other words

05:08:49.720 if you're worthy

05:08:51.160 of submission

05:08:51.980 whatever the fuck

05:08:53.320 that means

05:08:54.040 and generally

05:08:54.900 it's going to

05:08:55.340 just be a deference

05:08:56.160 back to them

05:08:57.360 so it's the

05:08:58.640 this kind of

05:08:59.300 leader followership

05:09:00.240 dynamic

05:09:00.800 or leader

05:09:01.620 follower dynamic

05:09:02.980 but that works

05:09:03.580 this way

05:09:04.080 you can lead

05:09:05.540 and I will follow

05:09:06.520 as long as you

05:09:07.380 do everything

05:09:07.980 that I say

05:09:08.700 and you can

05:09:10.340 lead me

05:09:10.840 there's this

05:09:12.180 great thing

05:09:13.340 from the office

05:09:13.960 that we've

05:09:14.400 played before

05:09:15.180 hold on

05:09:18.940 I'm going to

05:09:19.200 try to find it

05:09:19.840 and we can

05:09:20.200 react to it

05:09:20.980 let's see

05:09:23.300 oh yeah

05:09:26.960 yeah

05:09:27.200 I'm sorry

05:09:27.920 so my chat

05:09:28.540 reminded me

05:09:29.160 this is in

05:09:30.160 regards to a

05:09:30.800 fight

05:09:31.080 so wait

05:09:32.260 until there's

05:09:32.720 a fight

05:09:33.200 you're both

05:09:34.260 going at it

05:09:35.080 right

05:09:35.580 and

05:09:36.820 you know

05:09:37.780 she's pissed

05:09:38.260 at you

05:09:38.620 the next day

05:09:39.320 the whole day

05:09:40.300 she's pissed

05:09:40.880 at you

05:09:41.360 will she still

05:09:43.200 bow at the door

05:09:44.860 and make the noodles

05:09:46.100 that is the

05:09:48.200 that's the key in

05:09:49.300 right

05:09:49.600 the key in

05:09:50.260 isn't whether

05:09:50.880 or not

05:09:51.300 oh everything

05:09:51.840 is great

05:09:52.420 and it's fantastic

05:09:53.240 and he

05:09:53.720 bought me

05:09:54.460 the fucking

05:09:54.880 nice dress

05:09:55.640 that I love

05:09:56.300 and you know

05:09:57.000 everything is perfect

05:09:58.340 but when it's

05:09:59.240 not perfect

05:10:00.140 and when it's

05:10:01.820 not perfect

05:10:02.520 when it's not

05:10:03.060 great

05:10:03.340 that you still

05:10:03.720 have dinner

05:10:04.360 on the table

05:10:05.560 served up

05:10:06.940 that way

05:10:08.000 that's the tell

05:10:09.420 I agree

05:10:12.200 I got a video

05:10:12.980 on this

05:10:13.360 I got away

05:10:14.240 let's go to the

05:10:16.460 video tab

05:10:16.960 all right

05:10:22.180 good

05:10:22.560 I got away

05:10:24.640 with everything

05:10:26.020 under the last

05:10:27.080 boss and it

05:10:27.740 wasn't good for

05:10:28.340 me at all

05:10:29.220 so I want

05:10:30.040 guidance

05:10:30.500 I want

05:10:31.360 leadership

05:10:32.060 but don't just

05:10:33.660 like boss me

05:10:34.580 around you know

05:10:35.540 like lead me

05:10:37.200 lead me

05:10:38.220 when I'm in

05:10:39.780 the mood

05:10:40.440 to be led

05:10:42.320 that

05:10:44.340 that's women

05:10:48.820 bro

05:10:49.220 well maybe I

05:10:52.320 can ask the

05:10:53.000 panel this

05:10:53.820 it's kind of

05:10:56.000 a paradox

05:10:56.440 so first and

05:10:58.060 foremost

05:10:58.400 I would just

05:10:59.360 kind of concede

05:10:59.920 that probably

05:11:00.500 most women

05:11:01.300 if they agree

05:11:02.860 with the idea

05:11:03.420 of submission

05:11:03.940 only agree

05:11:04.780 with it

05:11:05.140 from a

05:11:05.480 religious

05:11:05.780 purview

05:11:06.240 so I'll

05:11:07.940 just kind of

05:11:08.340 grant that

05:11:08.780 that's true

05:11:09.320 but the idea

05:11:10.960 here is just

05:11:11.620 this

05:11:11.980 if you

05:11:13.760 are to

05:11:15.020 obey

05:11:15.440 and you

05:11:16.660 are the

05:11:17.300 servant

05:11:18.000 of the

05:11:18.680 relationship

05:11:19.300 and the

05:11:20.340 man is

05:11:20.980 the leader

05:11:21.520 if you

05:11:22.820 question

05:11:23.320 how he

05:11:24.040 serves

05:11:24.620 as the

05:11:25.420 leader

05:11:25.740 how are

05:11:26.400 you not

05:11:26.840 the leader

05:11:27.360 that's the

05:11:30.980 question

05:11:31.400 it kind of

05:11:32.480 becomes this

05:11:33.000 paradox

05:11:33.600 so starting

05:11:37.060 starting with

05:11:38.020 Savannah

05:11:38.740 right

05:11:39.980 because I

05:11:40.620 haven't picked

05:11:40.980 on you nearly

05:11:41.680 enough tonight

05:11:42.380 and I've been

05:11:42.760 really trying

05:11:43.460 to out my

05:11:43.820 game on

05:11:44.200 picking on

05:11:44.680 you a little

05:11:45.000 bit here

05:11:45.360 so would

05:11:47.760 you for

05:11:48.620 the right

05:11:48.980 man submit

05:11:49.660 to the

05:11:49.960 man

05:11:50.220 submit like

05:11:51.980 how like

05:11:53.100 do anything

05:11:53.460 for him

05:11:53.980 yeah yeah

05:11:55.280 of course I

05:11:55.840 would 100%

05:11:56.660 anything

05:11:57.600 yeah anything

05:11:58.660 what if you

05:11:59.740 had disagreements

05:12:00.680 with how he

05:12:01.460 led you and

05:12:02.420 led your

05:12:02.760 family

05:12:03.140 like what

05:12:06.280 do you mean

05:12:06.580 like what

05:12:08.040 did he do

05:12:08.320 to my

05:12:08.540 family

05:12:08.900 well he

05:12:10.160 doesn't do

05:12:10.720 anything you

05:12:11.520 just have

05:12:11.960 disagreeing

05:12:12.460 like for

05:12:12.780 instance

05:12:13.100 let's give

05:12:13.600 you an easy

05:12:13.980 one

05:12:14.340 you're a

05:12:15.760 stay-at-home

05:12:16.160 mom

05:12:16.520 there's a

05:12:17.420 school which

05:12:17.940 is very

05:12:18.360 close but

05:12:19.640 he wants

05:12:19.980 the kids to

05:12:20.480 go to a

05:12:20.880 school which

05:12:21.300 is much

05:12:21.640 further away

05:12:22.440 this does

05:12:23.460 not from

05:12:24.540 your purview

05:12:25.180 track in

05:12:26.520 your relationship

05:12:27.200 you don't want

05:12:28.380 to drive the

05:12:29.040 additional hour

05:12:29.860 to drop the

05:12:30.400 kids off at

05:12:30.960 the school

05:12:31.380 he insists

05:12:32.320 that you

05:12:32.720 must and

05:12:34.160 he doesn't

05:12:34.680 want to hear

05:12:35.180 it your

05:12:35.840 objections

05:12:36.360 they're noted

05:12:37.620 but he

05:12:38.460 doesn't give

05:12:39.040 a fuck

05:12:39.540 you need

05:12:40.180 to take

05:12:40.500 those kids

05:12:41.140 because he

05:12:41.740 says so

05:12:42.400 is it a

05:12:43.320 special school

05:12:43.900 like is it

05:12:44.280 a Christian

05:12:44.680 school or

05:12:45.300 not a

05:12:45.680 special school

05:12:46.400 you think

05:12:47.200 that the

05:12:47.460 other school

05:12:47.860 is better

05:12:48.360 in fact

05:12:48.900 you think

05:12:49.500 the one

05:12:49.800 closer is

05:12:50.380 even better

05:12:51.020 he disagrees

05:12:52.140 I feel like

05:12:55.000 there would

05:12:55.240 probably be

05:12:55.620 an argument

05:12:56.060 there

05:12:56.460 yeah there's

05:12:57.760 an argument

05:12:58.280 but he

05:12:58.780 says I'm

05:12:59.680 not going

05:12:59.920 to argue

05:13:00.340 I just

05:13:00.960 don't care

05:13:01.820 what you

05:13:02.180 think on

05:13:02.540 this particular

05:13:03.060 topic

05:13:03.440 I want

05:13:04.520 those kids

05:13:04.980 to go to

05:13:05.340 that school

05:13:05.900 if I'm a

05:13:06.560 stay-at-home

05:13:06.960 mom and if

05:13:07.620 I don't

05:13:07.800 really have

05:13:08.320 too much

05:13:09.260 going on

05:13:09.780 then I

05:13:10.080 wouldn't

05:13:10.280 mind

05:13:10.600 driving

05:13:11.260 the

05:13:12.480 further

05:13:13.140 difference

05:13:13.340 he's

05:13:14.580 dismissing

05:13:15.100 the entirety

05:13:15.620 of your

05:13:16.000 opinion

05:13:16.340 he doesn't

05:13:16.960 care

05:13:17.240 that it

05:13:17.580 doesn't

05:13:17.960 work

05:13:19.160 you think

05:13:20.000 this doesn't

05:13:21.600 fit with my

05:13:22.380 schedule

05:13:22.860 perfectly

05:13:23.600 but if they

05:13:24.560 were just

05:13:24.900 at this

05:13:25.240 closer

05:13:25.720 school

05:13:26.120 it would

05:13:26.700 and he

05:13:27.440 gives you

05:13:27.720 no

05:13:28.040 justification

05:13:28.600 he doesn't

05:13:29.360 give you

05:13:29.620 a reason

05:13:30.040 he says

05:13:30.500 I'm not

05:13:31.040 going to

05:13:31.240 give you

05:13:31.460 a reason

05:13:31.880 and I

05:13:32.740 don't

05:13:33.140 care

05:13:33.360 about

05:13:33.600 your

05:13:33.760 objections

05:13:34.240 that's

05:13:35.380 the

05:13:35.500 school

05:13:35.720 they're

05:13:35.900 going

05:13:36.160 to

05:13:36.440 are

05:13:36.840 they

05:13:36.980 going

05:13:37.220 to

05:13:37.440 be

05:13:37.820 with

05:13:38.020 somebody

05:13:38.300 like

05:13:38.560 that

05:13:38.900 I

05:13:39.880 wouldn't

05:13:40.240 right

05:13:40.500 that's

05:13:41.160 fair

05:13:41.360 okay

05:13:41.860 so then

05:13:42.420 moving

05:13:42.800 moving to

05:13:43.320 Gabby

05:13:43.700 so he's

05:13:45.580 my husband

05:13:46.160 yeah

05:13:47.220 I'm gonna

05:13:48.380 obey

05:13:48.820 okay

05:13:49.880 moving to

05:13:50.800 Maddie

05:13:51.080 I wouldn't

05:13:52.000 be married

05:13:52.400 to

05:13:52.520 right

05:13:54.220 GMD

05:13:55.340 Jim donated

05:13:56.020 one hundred

05:13:56.740 dollars

05:13:57.180 yeah thank

05:13:57.520 you Jim

05:13:57.860 to form a

05:13:58.480 vegan

05:13:58.780 murder

05:13:59.680 is the

05:14:00.060 premeditated

05:14:00.800 killing of

05:14:01.460 one human

05:14:02.080 being by

05:14:02.760 another

05:14:03.180 not an

05:14:03.920 animal

05:14:04.320 knowing this

05:14:05.480 I assume

05:14:06.260 that you

05:14:06.660 are outraged

05:14:07.580 by doing

05:14:08.060 so to a

05:14:08.640 child in

05:14:09.180 the womb

05:14:09.640 by the way

05:14:10.760 TTS has

05:14:11.400 been lowered

05:14:11.740 to a hundred

05:14:12.360 do you want

05:14:13.500 to respond

05:14:13.820 to that

05:14:14.200 no

05:14:14.740 by the way

05:14:15.460 Jim

05:14:15.820 long time

05:14:16.820 supporter

05:14:17.420 of the

05:14:17.920 whatever

05:14:18.220 podcast

05:14:18.720 thank you

05:14:19.280 for the

05:14:19.500 super

05:14:19.720 chat

05:14:19.980 yeah thank

05:14:20.920 you Jim

05:14:21.220 appreciate

05:14:21.540 it

05:14:21.900 I see

05:14:24.340 a lot

05:14:24.620 of his

05:14:24.860 supers

05:14:25.140 come

05:14:25.420 through

05:14:25.660 yeah

05:14:26.160 he's

05:14:26.380 been

05:14:27.000 supporting

05:14:27.380 a lot

05:14:27.680 recently

05:14:28.060 so

05:14:28.420 I got

05:14:29.360 to hit

05:14:29.560 him

05:14:29.700 with

05:14:29.920 he's

05:14:30.380 a brave

05:14:30.860 and a

05:14:31.140 decent

05:14:31.360 man

05:14:31.740 he's

05:14:31.960 a pioneer

05:14:32.560 a pioneer

05:14:33.820 pioneer

05:14:34.300 so Maddie

05:14:36.120 wouldn't be

05:14:36.640 married to a

05:14:37.140 guy like

05:14:37.500 that

05:14:37.860 Kendra

05:14:38.440 no

05:14:38.900 can you

05:14:40.400 like say

05:14:41.040 the question

05:14:41.500 again

05:14:41.840 so the

05:14:44.100 we'll start

05:14:44.920 with the

05:14:45.180 base

05:14:45.500 would you

05:14:45.980 submit to

05:14:46.400 a man

05:14:46.700 sure

05:14:48.480 okay

05:14:49.640 so

05:14:50.080 the idea

05:14:51.400 here is

05:14:52.080 that

05:14:52.460 your

05:14:53.260 your husband

05:14:54.340 says to

05:14:55.180 you

05:14:55.360 you're the

05:14:56.380 stay-at-home

05:14:56.820 mom

05:14:57.220 right

05:14:57.940 there's a

05:14:58.320 school

05:14:58.540 which is

05:14:58.940 close

05:14:59.340 you think

05:14:59.980 that the

05:15:00.280 school

05:15:00.480 which is

05:15:00.840 close

05:15:01.080 to you

05:15:01.380 is better

05:15:01.860 and it's

05:15:02.420 more convenient

05:15:03.180 for you to take the kids to that school

05:15:05.900 the man says okay but I want you to take these kids to the school

05:15:09.220 which is an hour away which is highly inconvenient for you and your schedule

05:15:13.200 and he says I'm going to give you zero justification you just need to do it

05:15:18.240 I mean I would hope my only reason wouldn't be just convenience for the school I would hope that I know where I would be sending my kids

05:15:29.260 no you think it's better you think it's better than the other one for sure

05:15:32.620 like educationally

05:15:34.080 sure you think educationally and everything else you think it's better

05:15:37.500 I mean I would just ask him to give me a reason

05:15:40.800 yeah I know but he says no I'm not going to give you a single justification I don't need to you need to obey

05:15:46.500 I'm going to say you do need to give me a reason because it's my job too

05:15:49.780 okay right so

05:15:51.100 so then moving over to Emma

05:15:53.960 I would not obey it'd be a

05:15:56.560 very

05:15:57.500 you would not obey

05:15:58.180 okay hang on fair enough

05:15:59.500 wait let's just

05:16:01.440 it would be what

05:16:02.120 a very serious conversation about the relationship

05:16:05.600 hmm okay

05:16:07.660 Alex

05:16:09.040 so I wouldn't blindly obey like that

05:16:12.100 right okay

05:16:13.620 and then moving over to Turkish

05:16:16.140 um

05:16:16.880 can I be honest I think I'm more of the dominant type

05:16:19.440 but I think for the right person

05:16:21.160 I'm willing to

05:16:23.180 come to an agreement

05:16:25.000 a communication

05:16:26.480 like

05:16:27.360 we discuss

05:16:28.800 I'm very like

05:16:29.560 communication

05:16:30.080 I know I know yeah I know he just in this case

05:16:32.540 his foot's down

05:16:33.720 he doesn't want the kids to go to that one

05:16:36.400 he wants to go to the other one

05:16:37.320 and he's going to give you no justification

05:16:38.900 and that's the end of the argument

05:16:40.540 that's the end of it

05:16:42.020 they're going to that school

05:16:43.680 and that's the end of it

05:16:45.580 oh

05:16:45.960 Loki I think if I'm actually really in love

05:16:50.320 I just listen to him

05:16:51.340 like when I love someone

05:16:52.420 I'm like

05:16:53.020 if that's going to make you happy

05:16:54.740 I guess yeah

05:16:56.360 okay

05:16:57.520 for the right man

05:16:58.760 I'm glad she added that

05:17:00.000 you see why

05:17:00.840 in modernity

05:17:02.000 when women say submission

05:17:03.780 that they'd be willing to submit

05:17:05.140 I actually don't fucking believe them

05:17:07.300 I don't

05:17:08.400 I really

05:17:09.200 I don't actually believe them

05:17:11.480 I don't

05:17:12.540 can I explain

05:17:13.220 I think that it's submission with qualifiers

05:17:15.400 it's submission with

05:17:16.660 if

05:17:17.900 if you're doing the things

05:17:19.280 I think you should be doing

05:17:20.500 then I'll submit

05:17:21.120 I don't really believe

05:17:22.580 that modern women

05:17:23.660 will submit

05:17:25.340 to modern men

05:17:26.820 even if

05:17:27.700 they have all the faith

05:17:28.620 in the world in him

05:17:29.420 that they

05:17:30.660 if they

05:17:31.140 if they kind of put the ultimatum up

05:17:32.680 where the woman says

05:17:33.340 wait

05:17:33.700 I just don't like this

05:17:35.380 and they say

05:17:35.800 okay I don't care

05:17:36.740 and that's the end of it

05:17:37.760 they

05:17:38.160 they seem to become

05:17:38.980 very very very upset by that

05:17:41.140 and that is not

05:17:42.000 submission

05:17:42.760 from my perspective

05:17:43.800 well it takes away

05:17:44.880 their agency

05:17:45.680 completely

05:17:46.520 and I mean

05:17:47.340 it kind of

05:17:47.940 belittles them

05:17:48.700 as a person

05:17:49.460 so

05:17:50.440 fair

05:17:53.120 but if he's your husband

05:17:54.860 I imagine that you thought it through

05:17:56.540 before you married him

05:17:57.540 so you know

05:17:57.980 like hey

05:17:58.600 if he's gonna make the calls

05:17:59.840 he

05:18:00.540 I trust him

05:18:01.980 yeah exactly

05:18:02.840 but it's like

05:18:03.200 you still have to agree

05:18:04.580 on kind of

05:18:06.100 why

05:18:06.540 the reason

05:18:07.160 why

05:18:08.160 why do you have to do

05:18:09.520 so this is my whole thing

05:18:10.860 right

05:18:11.080 it's like

05:18:11.460 why

05:18:12.560 if this person

05:18:14.060 is the leader

05:18:15.100 like

05:18:15.800 imagine for a second

05:18:17.080 that the general

05:18:17.980 the general goes

05:18:19.220 we're going to war

05:18:20.340 and here's what's gonna happen

05:18:21.140 his second in command

05:18:22.100 is like

05:18:22.680 can you tell me

05:18:24.440 why we should do this

05:18:25.640 and he's like

05:18:26.160 cause I said

05:18:26.880 we're doing it

05:18:27.780 that's fucking why

05:18:28.680 we're doing it

05:18:29.400 wouldn't that guy

05:18:30.760 get like

05:18:31.240 put up for disobedience

05:18:33.240 and he would

05:18:33.840 you know

05:18:34.200 perhaps even be flogged

05:18:35.980 for disobedience

05:18:37.080 right

05:18:37.400 but it's like

05:18:38.380 for some reason

05:18:39.420 Atlas All Resources

05:18:41.040 underscore

05:18:41.560 33,413

05:18:44.320 donated $100

05:18:45.680 married my husband

05:18:47.700 when I was 19

05:18:49.020 he 25

05:18:50.160 both military vets

05:18:52.180 a unit needs a leader

05:18:53.920 my husband is my leader

05:18:55.980 if we disagree

05:18:57.200 yes I serve him dinner

05:18:58.960 now 20 years later

05:19:00.780 still married

05:19:01.700 Atlas

05:19:02.480 thank you very much

05:19:03.240 for the TTS

05:19:04.180 and God bless you

05:19:04.820 Atlas sources

05:19:06.840 right

05:19:07.320 because there's very few

05:19:08.360 of you who are around

05:19:09.500 anymore

05:19:10.040 but kind of back to this

05:19:11.820 like so what

05:19:12.760 so what if you disagree

05:19:13.740 so what if he says

05:19:15.460 look

05:19:15.880 on this particular issue

05:19:17.140 I just don't give a fuck

05:19:18.560 what you think

05:19:19.260 I just don't care

05:19:20.280 and you need to just

05:19:21.560 kind of obey

05:19:22.420 what I'm saying

05:19:23.160 that's not

05:19:24.200 that's not going to work

05:19:25.160 for you right

05:19:25.740 Alex

05:19:27.960 yeah for me

05:19:29.180 I mean it wouldn't work

05:19:30.100 because if we are

05:19:31.520 actually going to

05:19:33.040 I would like to know

05:19:35.500 the reasoning

05:19:36.140 behind it

05:19:36.960 that's really it

05:19:38.280 you know

05:19:39.040 it's funny

05:19:39.420 I don't even care

05:19:40.300 from the secularist

05:19:41.620 atheist perspective

05:19:42.640 I don't even care

05:19:43.740 that they say

05:19:44.600 that's not going to work

05:19:45.560 and we need to be

05:19:46.120 in endless dialogue

05:19:46.960 and you need to comfort me

05:19:48.260 and you need to make

05:19:49.020 you know

05:19:49.420 all of you need

05:19:50.160 to justify every decision

05:19:51.140 I don't even care

05:19:51.880 right

05:19:52.200 I think that that's fine

05:19:53.580 but I don't really

05:19:55.340 understand it

05:19:55.900 from the Christian

05:19:56.560 world view

05:19:57.160 that's the thing

05:19:58.160 I've always tangled

05:19:59.160 with with Christian women

05:20:00.700 is why they think

05:20:02.460 that's okay

05:20:03.160 or why Muslim women

05:20:05.160 would think it's okay

05:20:06.160 or why

05:20:06.760 you know what I mean

05:20:07.400 like their doctrines

05:20:08.340 are very clear

05:20:09.060 that it's not okay

05:20:09.980 that's

05:20:10.920 I guess that's where

05:20:11.940 I always come at it from

05:20:13.320 that's not my argument

05:20:16.640 but you ladies

05:20:18.900 take it away

05:20:19.500 I mean even Andrew

05:20:25.540 even if

05:20:26.160 you don't take it

05:20:27.440 that far

05:20:28.420 even if

05:20:29.380 as a man

05:20:30.260 you're more

05:20:31.440 yeah but

05:20:31.620 okay

05:20:32.060 I'm already mad at you

05:20:33.020 though man

05:20:33.600 because when you say

05:20:34.740 that far

05:20:35.660 right

05:20:36.720 it kind of implies

05:20:37.760 that

05:20:38.140 this is going overboard

05:20:39.760 and I don't think

05:20:41.200 it's going overboard

05:20:42.000 I think that this is less

05:20:43.680 kind of like

05:20:46.400 less of an ask

05:20:47.500 than a bow

05:20:48.020 I think this is

05:20:49.640 it's less of an ask

05:20:50.900 and a bow

05:20:51.400 if you say

05:20:52.220 I submit to you

05:20:53.100 and I love you

05:20:53.840 and you say

05:20:54.560 okay great

05:20:55.340 then obey me

05:20:56.520 on this thing

05:20:57.120 because it's important to me

05:20:58.160 and don't ask me

05:20:58.740 a bunch of questions

05:20:59.420 about it

05:20:59.920 I think it's less of an ask

05:21:01.780 to ask that

05:21:03.400 and she goes

05:21:03.880 okay

05:21:04.240 to be fair though

05:21:06.580 I do

05:21:07.400 agree with

05:21:08.600 that specific aspect

05:21:10.120 in the terms

05:21:11.560 when both people

05:21:12.920 have very similar views

05:21:14.760 so it's like

05:21:16.020 if they

05:21:16.580 in general

05:21:17.680 have

05:21:18.380 you know

05:21:19.400 very similar views

05:21:21.100 like I'm sure

05:21:21.640 you and your wife

05:21:22.360 do

05:21:22.760 I think

05:21:23.520 I think

05:21:25.460 as much as me

05:21:26.580 and my wife

05:21:27.240 it's very interesting

05:21:28.600 people will say

05:21:29.300 me and my wife

05:21:30.020 almost seem like

05:21:31.320 we're one person

05:21:32.120 right

05:21:32.360 they can't figure out

05:21:33.420 where my views end

05:21:34.620 and hers begin

05:21:35.320 we actually disagree

05:21:36.840 on quite a bit

05:21:37.620 we actually disagree

05:21:38.780 on quite a bit

05:21:39.340 and I think that

05:21:39.980 many people

05:21:40.940 end up marrying

05:21:41.800 people who disagree

05:21:43.060 with them

05:21:43.580 on quite a bit

05:21:44.400 when it comes to

05:21:45.440 various aspects

05:21:46.420 of things

05:21:47.680 which they consider

05:21:48.300 to be practical

05:21:49.180 or pragmatic

05:21:49.960 or how they want it done

05:21:51.420 or you know

05:21:52.020 this type of thing

05:21:52.840 and it's like

05:21:53.740 who's the threshold

05:21:55.440 breaker here

05:21:56.220 and always

05:21:58.060 from kind of

05:21:59.020 the secular woman's

05:21:59.960 perspective

05:22:00.340 it's

05:22:00.920 well we're just

05:22:02.500 going to argue

05:22:03.020 incessantly

05:22:03.680 until we come

05:22:04.320 to an agreement

05:22:04.900 even though

05:22:05.480 we all know

05:22:06.240 in reality

05:22:06.820 that's not possible

05:22:07.880 that there's

05:22:08.460 some disagreements

05:22:09.540 that men and women

05:22:10.400 will have

05:22:10.900 in a relationship

05:22:11.560 they're not

05:22:12.600 going to find

05:22:13.460 the you know

05:22:15.300 they're not going

05:22:15.700 to find that

05:22:16.340 common ground

05:22:17.140 they're going

05:22:17.840 to disagree

05:22:18.360 to the point

05:22:18.960 where that is

05:22:19.540 not found

05:22:20.120 and so it's like

05:22:20.660 somebody has to

05:22:21.580 be deferred to

05:22:22.360 here

05:22:22.680 the point I was

05:22:26.220 going to make

05:22:27.360 is

05:22:27.940 and I don't

05:22:29.560 I mean

05:22:30.160 when I said

05:22:30.840 that far

05:22:31.940 I think

05:22:32.880 what I'm

05:22:33.840 saying is

05:22:34.400 if you were

05:22:34.980 to poll

05:22:36.200 most modern

05:22:37.940 men and

05:22:38.420 modern women

05:22:39.180 whether it's

05:22:41.000 through

05:22:41.440 indoctrination

05:22:42.480 brainwashing

05:22:43.440 sort of

05:22:45.020 the

05:22:45.220 sort of

05:22:45.940 the

05:22:46.200 what's the

05:22:47.120 term for

05:22:47.660 it's

05:22:48.000 the

05:22:48.320 the cultural

05:22:50.740 zeitgeist

05:22:51.540 I think

05:22:52.260 they would

05:22:52.660 say

05:22:53.080 they would

05:22:54.040 say

05:22:54.380 that it's

05:22:54.940 too far

05:22:55.360 I don't

05:22:55.860 think you

05:22:56.240 think it's

05:22:56.620 too far

05:22:56.920 Andrew

05:22:57.160 that's

05:22:59.280 not even

05:22:59.560 necessarily

05:22:59.980 the point

05:23:00.380 I'm trying

05:23:00.740 to make

05:23:01.060 what I am

05:23:03.060 trying to

05:23:03.340 say though

05:23:03.820 even if

05:23:04.500 we don't

05:23:05.720 take it

05:23:06.020 that far

05:23:06.560 and it's

05:23:06.960 sort of

05:23:07.460 more of

05:23:08.040 a just

05:23:08.500 a sort

05:23:09.040 of general

05:23:09.780 leadership

05:23:10.860 and if

05:23:11.220 the man

05:23:11.580 is willing

05:23:12.460 to receive

05:23:14.140 input

05:23:14.480 and have

05:23:14.980 prolonged

05:23:15.740 conversations

05:23:16.540 with his

05:23:17.860 girlfriend

05:23:18.220 or wife

05:23:18.940 about

05:23:20.560 perhaps

05:23:21.180 a

05:23:21.680 decision

05:23:23.120 when it

05:23:23.500 comes to

05:23:23.860 the

05:23:24.240 household

05:23:24.840 or the

05:23:25.260 children

05:23:25.660 even if

05:23:27.080 he's

05:23:27.240 willing

05:23:27.540 to have

05:23:28.080 these

05:23:28.380 prolonged

05:23:29.040 back and

05:23:29.960 forth

05:23:30.180 negotiations

05:23:30.820 and

05:23:31.080 conversations

05:23:31.640 there is

05:23:32.740 this sort

05:23:33.040 of trend

05:23:33.360 that I've

05:23:33.700 noticed

05:23:34.120 that in

05:23:35.580 general

05:23:35.960 it seems

05:23:36.560 like women

05:23:37.120 really like

05:23:38.480 male leadership

05:23:39.160 they're attracted

05:23:39.960 to it

05:23:40.280 they want

05:23:40.720 a man

05:23:41.020 who's a

05:23:41.360 leader

05:23:41.560 but they

05:23:42.920 are just

05:23:43.420 not

05:23:44.000 prepared

05:23:44.700 to be

05:23:45.300 followers

05:23:45.760 and that

05:23:47.000 just

05:23:47.260 you cannot

05:23:48.260 have a

05:23:48.780 leader

05:23:49.060 without

05:23:49.760 somebody

05:23:50.300 who's

05:23:50.620 willing

05:23:50.880 to be

05:23:51.200 a

05:23:51.400 follower

05:23:51.720 both of

05:23:52.680 you can't

05:23:53.080 be

05:23:53.200 leaders

05:23:53.580 only one

05:23:54.500 person

05:23:54.800 can be

05:23:55.100 a

05:23:55.240 leader

05:23:55.460 nothing

05:23:56.080 gets done

05:23:56.560 in a

05:23:56.780 democracy

05:23:57.320 nothing

05:23:58.080 gets done

05:23:58.640 by

05:23:58.860 committee

05:23:59.240 so

05:24:00.020 I

05:24:01.540 just

05:24:01.920 see

05:24:02.160 these

05:24:02.700 women

05:24:03.000 it's

05:24:04.160 like

05:24:04.300 almost

05:24:04.560 on a

05:24:05.080 biological

05:24:05.880 evolutionary

05:24:06.580 level

05:24:07.140 they're

05:24:07.780 attracted

05:24:08.100 to men

05:24:08.440 who are

05:24:08.780 dominant

05:24:09.560 masculine

05:24:10.120 leaders

05:24:10.640 but like

05:24:11.740 in the

05:24:12.100 programming

05:24:12.640 they

05:24:14.580 don't

05:24:15.300 they fight

05:24:16.000 against

05:24:16.920 fight against

05:24:18.480 it and don't

05:24:18.960 want to be

05:24:19.280 followers

05:24:19.620 so they

05:24:20.820 I want a

05:24:21.420 leader

05:24:21.600 but I

05:24:22.000 don't want

05:24:22.240 to follow

05:24:22.580 I'm

05:24:23.540 attracted

05:24:23.880 to this

05:24:24.340 but I'm

05:24:25.880 also

05:24:26.260 gonna

05:24:26.580 question

05:24:27.160 and

05:24:27.860 be

05:24:29.040 quarrelsome

05:24:29.600 and

05:24:30.040 not let

05:24:31.400 you lead

05:24:31.860 but I'm

05:24:32.120 attracted

05:24:32.440 to it

05:24:32.760 but I'm

05:24:33.000 still not

05:24:33.360 gonna let

05:24:33.660 you lead

05:24:34.140 but I'm

05:24:34.780 attracted

05:24:35.080 to it

05:24:35.460 does that

05:24:36.040 make sense

05:24:36.420 and Andrew

05:24:37.280 there goes

05:24:38.280 an actual

05:24:38.760 nature

05:24:39.340 versus

05:24:39.740 nurture

05:24:40.100 argument

05:24:40.540 because

05:24:41.560 the natural

05:24:42.960 aspect is

05:24:44.320 they are

05:24:44.800 attracted

05:24:45.260 to it

05:24:45.720 but you

05:24:46.280 have

05:24:46.520 feminism

05:24:46.900 we have

05:24:47.520 a culture

05:24:48.060 like in

05:24:49.060 the west

05:24:49.580 that tells

05:24:50.540 women that

05:24:51.040 they don't

05:24:51.420 have to

05:24:51.820 listen to

05:24:52.300 men

05:24:52.460 that they

05:24:52.780 don't

05:24:53.000 have to

05:24:53.320 do

05:24:53.460 certain

05:24:53.720 things

05:24:54.020 in

05:24:54.140 relationships

05:24:54.620 and then

05:24:55.280 it's

05:24:55.480 reinforced

05:24:56.080 all throughout

05:24:56.760 the media

05:24:57.320 social media

05:24:58.060 let me argue

05:24:58.760 with you a little

05:24:59.460 bit here Q

05:25:00.160 and ask you

05:25:02.520 if it's a nature

05:25:03.740 versus nurture

05:25:04.440 argument

05:25:04.920 how do you know

05:25:05.520 that the nature

05:25:06.120 isn't just to be

05:25:06.840 rebellious

05:25:07.360 because men

05:25:08.520 are naturally

05:25:09.640 attracted to

05:25:10.320 agreeable women

05:25:11.020 and agreeable

05:25:11.620 women are

05:25:12.360 typically the ones

05:25:13.300 who have the

05:25:13.820 better relationships

05:25:14.760 are they

05:25:16.320 yeah

05:25:16.880 yeah

05:25:17.880 it doesn't

05:25:18.860 seem like

05:25:19.300 that in

05:25:20.560 modernity

05:25:21.120 most women

05:25:23.720 are quarrelsome

05:25:24.320 and men

05:25:24.640 are still

05:25:24.960 endlessly

05:25:25.300 pursuing them

05:25:26.060 yeah

05:25:26.600 in the west

05:25:27.360 because it's

05:25:28.600 been infiltrated

05:25:29.300 by feminist

05:25:30.180 values and

05:25:30.860 principles

05:25:31.080 yeah but isn't

05:25:31.640 feminism just

05:25:32.380 another extension

05:25:33.100 of evolution

05:25:33.760 so didn't we

05:25:35.120 evolve to be

05:25:35.920 feminists

05:25:36.480 just like all

05:25:37.300 social structures

05:25:38.080 are part of

05:25:38.820 evolution

05:25:39.280 as part of

05:25:40.240 the selective

05:25:40.960 process right

05:25:41.840 possibly

05:25:42.560 possibly

05:25:44.020 but then

05:25:45.000 but it

05:25:45.660 isn't

05:25:46.020 I've always

05:25:46.500 found this to

05:25:46.980 be a massive

05:25:47.560 hole in the

05:25:48.080 argument from

05:25:48.720 the evolutionary

05:25:49.360 purview

05:25:50.640 yeah but

05:25:51.420 if the

05:25:51.720 argument is

05:25:52.480 but feminism

05:25:53.200 has indoctrinated

05:25:54.340 women into

05:25:55.220 being quarrelsome

05:25:56.100 then you're

05:25:57.620 actually saying

05:25:58.340 that men in

05:25:59.100 the west

05:25:59.480 have evolved

05:26:00.400 to follow

05:26:01.500 feminism

05:26:02.000 and so have

05:26:02.540 women

05:26:02.820 because that

05:26:03.520 would be the

05:26:03.940 natural order

05:26:04.480 of selection

05:26:04.980 right

05:26:05.280 yeah I wouldn't

05:26:06.200 I wouldn't be

05:26:06.760 opposed to that

05:26:07.440 but it's bigger

05:26:08.420 than the west

05:26:09.040 so when I say

05:26:09.980 that in general

05:26:10.600 I mean there's

05:26:11.440 still agreeable

05:26:12.040 women in other

05:26:12.620 cultures

05:26:13.000 there's still

05:26:13.520 women who

05:26:13.940 subscribe to

05:26:14.620 listening to

05:26:15.100 their men

05:26:15.480 and being

05:26:15.760 submissive

05:26:16.360 in other cultures

05:26:17.460 so of course

05:26:18.460 we have

05:26:18.860 we have what

05:26:19.440 I would call

05:26:20.040 an anomaly

05:26:21.160 here in the

05:26:22.120 west

05:26:22.440 and evolution

05:26:23.260 even in other

05:26:25.620 cultures

05:26:25.980 feminism is

05:26:26.660 winning

05:26:26.860 you think so

05:26:28.220 yeah name a

05:26:29.220 culture it's

05:26:29.660 not winning

05:26:30.060 in

05:26:30.300 the cultures

05:26:31.540 that it's

05:26:31.860 not prevalent

05:26:32.360 in

05:26:32.660 where

05:26:33.460 such as

05:26:34.120 the middle

05:26:35.560 east

05:26:35.820 no

05:26:36.620 it's

05:26:37.100 it's winning

05:26:37.840 all over

05:26:38.220 the middle

05:26:38.460 east

05:26:38.700 it's winning

05:26:39.040 in Iran

05:26:39.560 where

05:26:39.920 transgenderism

05:26:40.720 is allowed

05:26:41.060 it's not

05:26:41.480 winning in

05:26:41.920 Afghanistan

05:26:42.540 where it's

05:26:44.180 been liberated

05:26:44.640 by the west

05:26:45.180 it's winning

05:26:45.600 everywhere

05:26:46.620 the number

05:26:48.480 one complaint

05:26:49.180 I hear from

05:26:49.720 Muslims

05:26:50.100 is that

05:26:51.280 feminism

05:26:51.860 has not

05:26:52.900 stopped

05:26:53.240 at the west

05:26:53.780 but is now

05:26:54.760 going through

05:26:55.860 the middle

05:26:56.180 east

05:26:56.420 like crazy

05:26:57.160 and they're

05:26:58.580 doing everything

05:26:59.080 they can

05:26:59.700 to kind of

05:27:00.260 push back

05:27:00.740 against it

05:27:01.280 but they're

05:27:01.640 still having

05:27:02.260 to face

05:27:03.120 off with it

05:27:04.100 so the question

05:27:04.860 then becomes

05:27:05.620 like is this

05:27:06.700 the natural

05:27:07.320 evolutionary order

05:27:08.440 well when you

05:27:09.380 say well

05:27:09.920 it's not

05:27:11.040 necessarily

05:27:11.620 the evolutionary

05:27:12.220 order it's

05:27:13.780 more of a fact

05:27:14.440 that we just

05:27:15.480 like agreeable

05:27:16.160 women and

05:27:16.800 agreeable women

05:27:17.580 the more

05:27:18.460 agreeable a woman

05:27:19.360 is the more

05:27:20.520 likely the

05:27:21.100 relationship is

05:27:21.900 to work

05:27:22.520 so it's not

05:27:23.400 it's not a

05:27:23.940 it's not a

05:27:24.740 black and white

05:27:25.600 thing it's a

05:27:26.740 gray area

05:27:27.420 so it's a

05:27:28.420 gradation in

05:27:29.240 terms of what

05:27:30.320 relationships may

05:27:31.260 function better

05:27:32.160 than other

05:27:33.100 relationships based

05:27:34.100 on the level

05:27:34.880 of agreeableness

05:27:35.620 in the women

05:27:36.460 that's in those

05:27:37.280 relationships

05:27:38.020 when you

05:27:38.840 when you

05:27:39.220 speaking about

05:27:39.760 it you're

05:27:40.020 making it

05:27:40.320 more like a

05:27:40.840 black and

05:27:41.200 white thing

05:27:41.740 and evolution

05:27:42.500 isn't necessarily

05:27:43.260 about what's

05:27:44.300 best it's just

05:27:45.040 about what's

05:27:45.500 most adaptable

05:27:46.500 so if the

05:27:47.620 if the west

05:27:48.400 is indeed

05:27:49.860 feminist

05:27:51.180 if feminism

05:27:51.900 is adapted

05:27:52.880 to it

05:27:53.460 yeah yeah

05:27:54.160 that's what I

05:27:54.540 was that's what

05:27:54.940 I'm getting at

05:27:55.340 I'm saying

05:27:55.620 if they've

05:27:56.100 adapted to it

05:27:56.940 then that would

05:27:57.360 be part of

05:27:58.240 their evolutionary

05:27:59.260 cycle

05:27:59.780 but then that

05:28:00.500 would just

05:28:00.880 mean that

05:28:01.260 we would

05:28:01.660 ultimately end

05:28:02.480 up just

05:28:02.820 becoming a

05:28:03.340 feminist

05:28:03.580 society

05:28:04.240 we have

05:28:05.640 become a

05:28:06.180 feminist

05:28:06.500 society

05:28:07.100 no no

05:28:07.680 I'm

05:28:07.940 you wouldn't

05:28:08.340 even disagree

05:28:08.980 right

05:28:09.320 no no

05:28:09.980 I'm saying

05:28:10.580 the argument

05:28:11.240 you're making

05:28:11.920 is more so

05:28:13.100 from a moralistic

05:28:14.060 perspective

05:28:14.560 and I'm saying

05:28:15.100 evolution

05:28:15.720 well I don't

05:28:16.560 I'm not

05:28:17.220 I don't believe

05:28:18.900 in evolution

05:28:20.020 I don't even

05:28:20.480 think it's a

05:28:20.920 thing

05:28:21.320 right

05:28:21.760 it's nonsensical

05:28:22.680 to me because

05:28:23.280 of natural

05:28:23.720 selection being

05:28:24.540 the mechanism

05:28:25.080 but I'm willing

05:28:26.560 to argue

05:28:27.060 within the

05:28:27.600 evolutionary

05:28:28.100 yeah that's

05:28:28.480 not the only

05:28:29.600 mechanism

05:28:30.760 of evolution

05:28:31.460 there's more

05:28:32.320 than that

05:28:33.140 it's not

05:28:33.520 natural selection

05:28:34.200 that would be

05:28:34.680 the strong

05:28:35.000 without natural

05:28:35.680 selection evolution

05:28:36.580 doesn't work

05:28:37.200 yes it does

05:28:38.900 because of genetic

05:28:39.680 drift and genetic

05:28:40.480 mutations

05:28:40.900 that's all natural

05:28:42.240 selection

05:28:42.700 genetics

05:28:43.100 no it's not

05:28:43.900 no it's not

05:28:44.500 Andrew

05:28:44.780 how is it

05:28:45.420 it's unnatural

05:28:46.040 selection

05:28:46.540 no it's not

05:28:47.700 because random

05:28:48.340 mutations happen

05:28:49.180 just randomly

05:28:49.880 within populations

05:28:50.680 that would be

05:28:51.080 natural

05:28:51.560 that's not

05:28:52.960 selection

05:28:53.580 that is

05:28:54.520 selection

05:28:54.960 no it's

05:28:55.500 no it's

05:28:56.080 only selection

05:28:56.720 it's selecting

05:28:57.420 for the mutated

05:28:58.260 gene

05:28:58.600 it's selecting

05:28:59.200 for the mutated

05:28:59.980 gene but you

05:29:00.680 have to mate

05:29:01.200 in order to

05:29:01.680 pass it on

05:29:02.360 yeah but if

05:29:03.640 you're mating

05:29:04.100 and passing on

05:29:04.840 the mutated

05:29:05.440 genes then

05:29:06.140 that's natural

05:29:07.000 therefore it's

05:29:07.740 natural selection

05:29:08.600 no

05:29:08.940 what do you

05:29:10.640 mean no

05:29:11.080 how could it

05:29:11.580 not be

05:29:12.100 I just told

05:29:13.260 you if it's

05:29:14.120 not being

05:29:14.660 selected for

05:29:15.500 sexually then

05:29:16.720 it's not

05:29:17.180 natural selection

05:29:18.200 yeah but if

05:29:18.740 people with

05:29:19.200 these mutated

05:29:19.780 genes are

05:29:20.920 having sex

05:29:21.780 and the mutated

05:29:22.500 genes are

05:29:23.260 continuing then

05:29:24.600 that would be

05:29:25.120 natural selection

05:29:26.120 yes

05:29:26.540 you ain't got

05:29:27.020 the answers man

05:29:27.980 you ain't got

05:29:28.860 the answers

05:29:29.380 you ain't got

05:29:30.700 the answers

05:29:31.180 you ain't got

05:29:32.220 the answers

05:29:32.720 swank

05:29:33.160 but so

05:29:34.720 but genes

05:29:35.680 but things

05:29:36.280 happen genes

05:29:37.040 get eliminated

05:29:37.760 genes are not

05:29:38.400 selected for

05:29:39.060 so it's just

05:29:39.580 kind of a

05:29:40.360 random thing

05:29:41.260 yeah but that's

05:29:41.960 all natural

05:29:42.400 selection again

05:29:43.360 that's one

05:29:44.820 mechanism

05:29:45.280 that's one

05:29:45.860 mechanism of

05:29:46.520 like six

05:29:47.100 is the key

05:29:48.300 component

05:29:48.920 to evolution

05:29:50.500 the gradual

05:29:51.300 change of an

05:29:52.360 entirety of a

05:29:53.320 species over

05:29:54.180 time

05:29:54.620 that is evolution

05:29:55.820 combined with

05:29:56.720 now you can have

05:29:57.580 micro evolution

05:29:58.520 as well

05:29:59.040 I understand

05:29:59.780 that as well

05:30:00.420 but the

05:30:01.500 gradual progression

05:30:02.740 of an entire

05:30:03.980 species over

05:30:04.860 time

05:30:05.300 is the

05:30:06.160 mechanism for

05:30:07.040 this has to

05:30:07.840 be natural

05:30:08.260 so it can't

05:30:08.880 be anything

05:30:09.520 else

05:30:09.780 what else

05:30:10.100 could it

05:30:10.320 be

05:30:10.520 no you're

05:30:11.200 just choosing

05:30:11.700 to clump

05:30:12.140 them together

05:30:12.740 they're separate

05:30:13.500 mechanisms

05:30:14.220 genetic drift

05:30:15.260 is its own

05:30:17.840 mechanism

05:30:18.440 genetic mutations

05:30:19.760 are their own

05:30:20.820 mechanism

05:30:21.140 how do those

05:30:21.600 spread

05:30:21.920 natural selection

05:30:22.920 are their own

05:30:24.080 mechanisms

05:30:24.880 how do those

05:30:25.800 mutations spread

05:30:26.740 in response to

05:30:27.760 the environment

05:30:28.340 okay so in

05:30:30.040 response to the

05:30:30.700 environment those

05:30:31.360 mutations spread

05:30:32.240 and then when you

05:30:33.300 have sexual

05:30:34.080 intercourse with

05:30:34.840 somebody that

05:30:36.180 mutation

05:30:36.800 continues

05:30:38.580 but you added

05:30:39.900 the sexual

05:30:40.420 selection

05:30:40.740 you added

05:30:41.620 the sexual

05:30:42.180 selection

05:30:42.720 now it's been

05:30:44.520 selected for

05:30:45.380 that's the whole

05:30:46.100 point

05:30:46.480 now it's been

05:30:48.080 selected for

05:30:49.000 yeah if you

05:30:50.240 say that

05:30:50.900 but that's not

05:30:51.800 always the case

05:30:52.800 I'm not saying

05:30:53.980 it's always the

05:30:54.660 case but if it's

05:30:55.320 not the case

05:30:55.920 that's also

05:30:56.660 natural selection

05:30:57.640 so if they

05:30:58.620 don't have

05:30:59.320 sex

05:30:59.800 if there's no

05:31:00.940 sex and the

05:31:01.500 gene dies

05:31:02.140 that has been

05:31:03.040 selected out

05:31:04.000 if they do

05:31:04.880 have sex

05:31:05.440 and the

05:31:05.680 gene is

05:31:06.280 there then

05:31:07.100 that has been

05:31:07.760 selected in

05:31:08.700 right

05:31:09.180 no that's not

05:31:11.000 the only way

05:31:12.040 I keep telling

05:31:12.640 you that you

05:31:13.140 keep saying the

05:31:13.820 same thing and

05:31:14.360 I'm telling you

05:31:14.800 that's not the

05:31:15.300 only way that's

05:31:15.880 not the only way

05:31:16.500 it works it

05:31:17.320 doesn't have to

05:31:17.960 be selected

05:31:18.420 that's the only

05:31:19.280 way it can

05:31:19.920 work no it's

05:31:20.720 not otherwise

05:31:21.300 how does the

05:31:21.840 gene continue

05:31:22.620 if it's not

05:31:23.160 selected for

05:31:23.980 because as I

05:31:31.740 said genetic

05:31:32.860 mutations and

05:31:33.940 genetic drifts

05:31:34.820 they're not

05:31:35.300 always selected

05:31:36.240 for but they

05:31:38.100 become a part

05:31:38.860 of evolution

05:31:39.460 just because

05:31:40.240 they're mechanisms

05:31:40.960 that happen

05:31:41.580 randomly by

05:31:42.620 chance

05:31:43.300 natural selection

05:31:44.340 is its own

05:31:45.420 mechanism

05:31:46.060 if it was the

05:31:47.320 same thing as

05:31:47.940 those they

05:31:48.320 wouldn't be

05:31:48.640 considered

05:31:48.940 different

05:31:49.280 mechanisms

05:31:49.700 it would be

05:31:50.400 called natural

05:31:50.920 selection

05:31:51.280 it wouldn't

05:31:51.600 be called

05:31:51.940 genetic

05:31:52.300 mutation

05:31:53.140 I don't actually

05:31:53.160 understand this

05:31:53.880 argument and

05:31:54.660 maybe you can

05:31:55.120 help me bridge

05:31:55.800 the gap here

05:31:56.480 let us assume

05:31:57.940 that there's a

05:31:58.420 mutation which

05:31:59.620 occurs inside of

05:32:00.740 a species which

05:32:01.500 is very small

05:32:02.380 right this is a

05:32:03.580 random mutation

05:32:04.440 which happens

05:32:05.200 right now if

05:32:06.900 this mutation if

05:32:08.180 nobody with the

05:32:09.280 mutation breeds

05:32:10.420 you agree with me

05:32:11.640 that this gene is

05:32:12.500 selected out

05:32:13.360 correct or this

05:32:15.120 mutation is

05:32:15.960 selected now out

05:32:16.960 right possibly

05:32:17.600 possibly okay

05:32:18.920 well I mean I

05:32:20.340 don't understand

05:32:20.780 how could it be

05:32:21.900 selected in if

05:32:24.180 if the genes

05:32:25.200 which cause the

05:32:25.840 mutation do not

05:32:27.700 pass genetically to

05:32:28.820 the next generation

05:32:29.640 because genes are

05:32:31.520 also affected in

05:32:32.720 utero by the

05:32:33.660 environment so

05:32:34.420 you can have

05:32:35.180 you can have

05:32:36.100 you can a woman

05:32:36.760 can be pregnant

05:32:37.520 or an animal can

05:32:38.320 be pregnant and

05:32:39.440 a whole new gene

05:32:40.580 happens there's a

05:32:42.320 gene modification

05:32:43.060 within the in the

05:32:44.300 DNA I agree

05:32:45.400 due to so but

05:32:46.840 but let's say that

05:32:47.760 that mutation

05:32:48.480 happens and then

05:32:50.240 there's no more

05:32:51.060 reproduction past

05:32:52.340 that what happens

05:32:53.060 to that gene

05:32:53.640 depends on the

05:32:57.980 gene honestly

05:32:58.660 no no no how

05:33:00.720 could a gene

05:33:01.300 wait wait wait

05:33:01.900 wait hold up

05:33:02.440 because hold up

05:33:03.060 because there's

05:33:03.600 reproduction is not

05:33:04.660 possible hold up

05:33:05.480 because there's

05:33:06.020 pseudo genes there's

05:33:06.940 genes that exist that

05:33:07.980 we still have that

05:33:08.800 don't even work for

05:33:09.780 what they were

05:33:10.280 selected for so it

05:33:11.700 just could become an

05:33:12.480 inactive gene yeah

05:33:13.420 but those genes

05:33:14.060 couldn't exist absent

05:33:15.280 the reproduction or

05:33:17.900 mutation you still

05:33:20.000 say mutation could

05:33:21.240 not spread absent

05:33:22.440 reproduction yes it

05:33:23.940 can yes it can

05:33:25.240 yes so you're

05:33:27.020 saying wait so

05:33:27.860 you're saying that

05:33:28.500 an entire species

05:33:29.620 can have a random

05:33:31.460 mutation happen to

05:33:32.620 the entirety of the

05:33:33.680 species but you but

05:33:34.860 look that's okay

05:33:35.900 here's I'm asking you

05:33:37.060 directly can a species

05:33:38.720 have a random

05:33:39.560 mutation absent

05:33:41.160 reproduction which

05:33:42.120 happens to the entire

05:33:43.220 species no because

05:33:45.960 it's a no no

05:33:47.000 yeah because wait

05:33:47.800 wait sir because

05:33:48.700 sir because it's a

05:33:49.640 gradual because it's a

05:33:50.680 gradual process it

05:33:51.840 wouldn't happen like

05:33:52.600 that it wouldn't

05:33:53.360 happen exactly because

05:33:54.700 it would be selected

05:33:55.700 for it would not

05:33:56.860 selected for it would

05:33:57.900 be random it would

05:33:59.000 just be random it

05:33:59.840 would occur randomly it

05:34:01.000 wouldn't happen in a

05:34:01.980 specific population like

05:34:03.560 that just suddenly it

05:34:05.200 would right over it

05:34:06.360 would have to be

05:34:07.140 gradual and selected

05:34:08.480 for and it would it

05:34:09.880 without reproduction it

05:34:11.320 could not be selected

05:34:12.140 for and therefore it

05:34:13.120 could not continue there's

05:34:14.240 no way around that

05:34:15.200 absent reproduction the

05:34:16.840 gene dies there's no

05:34:18.260 fucking way around that

05:34:19.600 any yes there is it's a

05:34:20.840 plant I don't care if it's

05:34:22.100 an ant I don't care what

05:34:23.740 it is if well how does

05:34:26.200 the gene reproduce how

05:34:27.380 does it reproduce we're

05:34:28.740 talking about mutations

05:34:29.800 and drifts yeah it's

05:34:32.280 only because you're stuck

05:34:33.220 on natural selection and

05:34:34.720 you're and that's how

05:34:35.420 you're framing it you're

05:34:36.300 choosing to frame it at

05:34:37.380 natural rate as natural

05:34:38.880 purview of natural

05:34:40.020 slate they can't I'm

05:34:41.380 telling these things are

05:34:42.740 being selected or not

05:34:43.760 selected for it's not

05:34:45.020 impossible there's plenty

05:34:46.080 of evidence that shows

05:34:46.960 that it actually can okay

05:34:48.880 I can I can send you

05:34:50.160 some studies if you want

05:34:51.720 an entire species and

05:34:53.040 when an entire species

05:34:54.180 gets a mutated gene which

05:34:57.220 spreads throughout the

05:34:58.220 species without reproduction

05:35:00.620 could you repeat it for

05:35:02.720 me bro yeah can you tell

05:35:04.800 me give me a single

05:35:06.060 example of a mutated gene

05:35:08.240 which spreads throughout an

05:35:09.700 entire species absent

05:35:11.120 reproduction absent

05:35:13.180 reproduction an entire gene

05:35:14.940 that spreads throughout a

05:35:15.940 species absent reproduction

05:35:17.960 mm-hmm how about genes that

05:35:19.880 occur specifically in a

05:35:21.700 population absent

05:35:23.240 reproduction such as what

05:35:25.120 such as the lactase gene

05:35:27.280 okay and does that could

05:35:29.480 that gene continue absent

05:35:30.660 reproduction it it could

05:35:32.460 continue absent reproduction by

05:35:34.000 gene mutation yeah but you're

05:35:36.980 just saying that there could be

05:35:37.920 another mutation which is like

05:35:39.280 this mutation what about blue

05:35:40.880 eyes so like no matter what no

05:35:43.880 matter what all this is going to

05:35:45.340 come back all this is going to

05:35:46.860 come back to the gene itself or

05:35:49.860 whatever the mutation is in the

05:35:51.300 gene cannot continue absent

05:35:53.820 reproduction of the people with

05:35:55.140 those genes that is natural

05:35:56.920 selection the idea here is that

05:35:58.720 this gene whatever the mutation is

05:36:00.820 is being selected for because that

05:36:02.780 is what's being reproduced this is

05:36:05.400 always the center point for the

05:36:09.100 idea of evolution no I got to give

05:36:11.980 the final word on this and then I

05:36:13.760 got to move yeah but but I mean I

05:36:15.760 mean it's simply put if it was

05:36:17.260 natural selection then it would be

05:36:18.540 classified as natural selection

05:36:20.020 it's not natural selection you're

05:36:21.460 just okay well let me ask one more

05:36:22.660 question

05:36:23.040 Andrew I got that real quick real

05:36:26.040 quick

05:36:26.260 if the entirety of the world was

05:36:30.380 nuked tomorrow we all nuked each

05:36:32.640 other out of existence okay with

05:36:34.540 nuclear bombs that is natural

05:36:37.280 selection correct if we all nuked

05:36:40.420 each other yes why would that be

05:36:42.360 why would that be classified as

05:36:43.960 natural selection if we chose to

05:36:45.640 what else could it be why would

05:36:47.220 that be because because evolution

05:36:50.720 meant that we built nukes and that

05:36:53.660 we evolved towards nuking each other

05:36:55.720 off of planet earth that's what was

05:36:58.160 selected for the genes and everything

05:37:00.160 else that led to us building the

05:37:02.020 nukes and thus nuking each other off

05:37:04.460 of planet earth all of that led from

05:37:08.320 evolution right we evolved to do this

05:37:10.820 that would never happen because

05:37:12.440 evolution is about reproduction and

05:37:14.140 survival so we wouldn't evolve to

05:37:15.500 nuking each other

05:37:16.180 well I think that you and I have a big

05:37:21.040 you and I have a big distinction then

05:37:23.740 in what is natural selection

05:37:25.440 you should look at you should look at a

05:37:30.560 book called the revolutionary

05:37:31.540 phenotype it was written by jf gary eppy

05:37:34.180 who makes this very argument about

05:37:36.520 about nukes and he states emphatically

05:37:39.520 there's no possible way that if you

05:37:43.340 were to nuke each other off planet

05:37:45.000 earth that those weren't just simply

05:37:47.000 genes which were selected for which

05:37:48.620 led to that because that's how

05:37:50.780 evolution would have to work

05:37:52.100 yeah but send me send me send me the

05:37:57.740 book andrew send me the book it's

05:37:59.520 called the revolutionary phenotype by

05:38:01.020 jf gary eppy I did appreciate the

05:38:02.860 spirited debate by the way I have no

05:38:04.140 problem with q at all absolutely not

05:38:07.000 I love it I love it that's my bro

05:38:09.320 yeah it's not personal

05:38:10.820 that was good that was that was great

05:38:16.020 thank you guys thank you um we have

05:38:18.620 jj mad thing with it for the 200

05:38:20.860 dollar soup chat thank you man cheers

05:38:22.660 brian repeal title nine literally layup

05:38:25.680 was on top 10 f f women's sports

05:38:28.720 uh isn't title nine a good good thing

05:38:35.500 or wait isn't it I don't know it's

05:38:39.340 women's sports it's the what they

05:38:42.140 implemented so that women could play

05:38:43.480 college well jj mad thank you for the

05:38:45.100 soup chat really appreciate it man uh

05:38:46.940 thank you thank you he's not a fan of

05:38:48.960 women's sports apparently by the way

05:38:50.300 tts has been lowered to 69 dollars if

05:38:53.180 you guys want to get a tts and now I'm

05:38:55.560 going to try to get through all the

05:38:56.880 notes here so going to maddie you

05:39:00.380 said you have tons of dating stories

05:39:01.960 uh one guy's mom walked in on us

05:39:04.620 during his first time ever what was the

05:39:08.740 story there

05:39:09.300 that's that's basically the story oh um

05:39:15.400 yeah no that's basically the story so

05:39:17.660 his mom

05:39:18.840 talking about this his mom can't believe

05:39:22.300 it no I genuinely can't his mom

05:39:24.660 walked in on his first time ever and

05:39:27.820 she like opened the door and she goes

05:39:30.220 good night guys and we both look over

05:39:33.080 at her our faces just drop her face

05:39:35.760 drops and she slams the door so wait

05:39:39.520 she's seeing y'all yeah yeah damn that's

05:39:47.660 crazy um what position

05:39:51.360 cowgirl okay okay yeah yeah you seem like

05:39:58.340 the type

05:39:58.720 oh what would what would be the whatever

05:40:01.720 that means

05:40:02.320 is that is I'm just thinking what's like

05:40:07.520 the more embarrassing position for the

05:40:09.500 guy

05:40:09.800 like for your mom to walk in on

05:40:11.980 standing up in the shower

05:40:13.860 the wheelbanging you got walked in

05:40:18.040 standing up in the shower yeah

05:40:19.540 walked on I think it'd be more

05:40:22.100 embarrassing if it was missionary

05:40:23.140 why I don't know because he's kind of

05:40:26.620 just like chilling if he's like if

05:40:28.620 she's on top you know

05:40:29.620 right embarrassing oh well I mean

05:40:34.740 really the most embarrassing would be

05:40:36.480 what's that position where it's Amazon

05:40:39.240 you know

05:40:41.580 atlas all resources donated 69 dollars

05:40:44.660 another example of excellent mothering

05:40:47.420 yo thank you atlas for the uh tts really

05:40:52.100 appreciate it okay you said you dated

05:40:54.000 someone for three years while cheating

05:40:56.020 and lies to cover it up he got someone

05:40:58.280 pregnant

05:40:58.940 while with me whoa double Andrew

05:41:03.920 Andrew wait wait wait put it back

05:41:05.800 wait double Andrew again okay Andrew

05:41:08.460 go debate yourself debate yourself

05:41:10.000 all right Andrew debate yourself go

05:41:12.880 all right well there's uh there's

05:41:14.580 positive and negative arguments

05:41:15.920 Andrew

05:41:16.600 Andrew don't take a reason to

05:41:18.620 positive and negative arguments for

05:41:20.020 evolution

05:41:20.420 why yes Andrew I do well what's one

05:41:22.740 well natural selection

05:41:23.980 wait there's we can fix this

05:41:25.540 Andrew based around specifically the

05:41:27.860 idea of

05:41:28.380 wait can you uh well that's not true

05:41:30.120 because of epigenetics

05:41:31.320 what about epigenetics

05:41:32.920 wait click on the top one

05:41:34.640 yeah click on no yeah you got to

05:41:36.300 switch them so no no no scroll down

05:41:38.300 scroll down no no no no no

05:41:39.700 ah yeah yeah hold on okay the bottom

05:41:42.460 one yeah click no no no no no no no

05:41:45.500 here uh move move them out no no no

05:41:47.960 just stay there just stay there okay

05:41:49.600 right click okay go to transform

05:41:52.600 transform transform transform and then

05:41:56.620 you're gonna do flip horizontal

05:41:59.980 vertical or flip vertical my bad no I

05:42:05.400 was right who fucking fucking Alex

05:42:08.120 wait control z just can or flip

05:42:10.300 vertical again I guess okay now flip

05:42:13.220 horizontal horizontal oh wait now we

05:42:16.620 got due to the other side oh wait no

05:42:19.220 that all right there we go okay all

05:42:22.560 right Andrew debate yourself

05:42:23.480 Andrew Andrew versus okay now Brian

05:42:25.640 will you moderate in case I get way

05:42:27.420 too far out of line here I will

05:42:29.020 moderate

05:42:29.400 okay so the theory of evolution is

05:42:33.160 based around the idea of natural

05:42:34.580 selection natural selection is all

05:42:36.540 encompassing no you're wrong you

05:42:38.800 fucking idiot here's your biggest

05:42:40.580 problem is that you forget about

05:42:41.880 epigenetics and you forget about

05:42:43.220 mutations in the gene pool

05:42:44.440 incorrect Andrew the truth of the

05:42:46.840 matter is is that even these

05:42:49.040 mutations in the gene pool could

05:42:50.440 never continue including blue eyes

05:42:52.320 which is what one of the ladies

05:42:53.320 brought up unless those recessive

05:42:55.100 genes were able to reproduce

05:42:56.320 Andrew that's incorrect you can have

05:42:58.560 recessive genes which continue into

05:43:00.640 infinity without any sort of

05:43:03.920 reproduction whatsoever no that's

05:43:05.640 incorrect just look at germ theory you

05:43:07.400 fucking idiot is that good for you

05:43:09.280 that was beautiful that was

05:43:11.140 excellent control z do control z that

05:43:14.440 was excellent there we go all right

05:43:16.160 that was that was beautiful okay

05:43:17.700 oh who won what

05:43:19.960 uh Andrew on the left definitely

05:43:24.820 definitely I thought he was the

05:43:26.960 better he had the better angle by the

05:43:28.800 way TTS is $69 if you guys want to

05:43:31.540 get one in uh okay my chat said W

05:43:33.640 Andrew L Andrew W Andrew L Andrew

05:43:36.040 yeah uh you uh so you did someone for

05:43:40.440 three years yes wild cheating and lies

05:43:42.760 oh no I wasn't cheating in line oh hold

05:43:45.460 on radius donated $69 I want to see

05:43:49.700 two Andrews eat two burritos I think

05:43:52.620 what we have to do though is we have

05:43:54.460 to hide one because it's we see you

05:43:57.100 talking in both even if it's mirrored we

05:43:59.780 need to hide one and then put the other

05:44:02.140 one on when the other's talking and

05:44:03.860 kind of like swap back and forth but

05:44:05.260 uh let's see so uh he got somebody

05:44:08.560 said Andrew W by the way Andrew W he got

05:44:12.620 someone pregnant while with me and now

05:44:14.120 smokes an insane amount of weed to cope

05:44:16.680 mind you I was 14 and he was 18 when we

05:44:20.620 started dating yeah yikes yikes yeah so

05:44:24.740 that was a crazy time in my life for sure

05:44:27.080 that was my first boyfriend pretty much

05:44:29.020 ever um we were completely infatuated

05:44:31.860 with each other um what I didn't know is

05:44:34.980 that he was cheating on me literally the

05:44:36.580 entire time damn entire time with the

05:44:40.200 girls that were in our friend group

05:44:41.760 girls that he called ugly girls that had

05:44:44.600 previously hooked up with any of his

05:44:46.900 friends it was bad and I didn't he didn't

05:44:49.640 mind you he didn't tell me like hey like I

05:44:51.640 need to sit down and have this

05:44:52.480 conversation with you like I've been I've

05:44:54.580 been fucking up I got like four hey

05:44:56.660 girly texts it was yeah yeah that's

05:45:01.380 crazy that's ridiculous yeah uh you said

05:45:08.200 seeing multiple people at once is beyond

05:45:10.140 weird the whole snapchat hose thing is

05:45:12.700 ruining dating and modern dating is

05:45:14.960 ruined in general what's snapchat hose

05:45:16.820 snapchat hose like I personally don't

05:45:19.260 agree with like having like what 50 to

05:45:23.380 70 however many people on one side

05:45:26.600 bluff is donated $69 the only real winner

05:45:30.660 in that argument was society the one

05:45:33.700 between Q and Andrew or Q or Andrew and

05:45:36.020 Andrew Andrew and Andrew okay uh sorry

05:45:41.020 snapchat hose like I have never understood

05:45:44.220 people or just people in general that

05:45:46.240 like snap a thousand people and just kind

05:45:49.720 of keep up with slight conversation that

05:45:52.480 to me is so so weird so so weird it is

05:45:56.360 because in my opinion why are you I don't

05:46:00.540 care to know everything about y'all

05:46:02.200 anyone around this table I don't care to

05:46:04.100 know your favorite color where you're

05:46:06.360 from how many siblings you have how many

05:46:08.060 pets you have so to like give that like

05:46:11.260 little piece of information and possibly

05:46:13.560 more to 50 to 70 to however many people

05:46:16.460 you have on a snapchat roster that you

05:46:18.220 keep in contact with daily is so beyond

05:46:21.300 me uh Brian I did I did want to just

05:46:26.600 insert very quickly that the chat over

05:46:29.240 here is refusing to send any more donos to

05:46:31.400 the whatever podcast because you did not

05:46:33.220 mute dark Andrew they're saying it was

05:46:35.920 biased moderation you that you know what I

05:46:38.680 they're right they're right can you put the

05:46:43.660 red thing on is that the dark Andrew or

05:46:46.060 how do you do that oh shit oh shit there

05:46:52.920 you go

05:46:53.500 look honestly it's hard to keep it's hard

05:46:59.660 for it's hard enough for me to keep up

05:47:01.200 with one Andrew two Andrews I'm that's

05:47:04.320 above my pay grade and so I did my best

05:47:07.140 though um so actually didn't we we

05:47:11.440 entertain like just having you actually

05:47:14.520 do a debate against yourself we we've

05:47:17.240 entertained you well you entertained it

05:47:19.220 bro I'm a good entertainer I'm not that

05:47:21.580 good of an entertainer yeah uh let's see

05:47:25.800 going to Savannah Savannah you said just

05:47:31.300 days before my birthday my boyfriend at

05:47:33.560 the time was arrested it felt like the

05:47:36.260 universe was playing a joke hearing about

05:47:39.000 his regular reckless behavior at the

05:47:41.620 worst possible moment instead of the

05:47:44.220 excitement of celebrating together I was

05:47:45.780 left with a mess of emotions anger

05:47:48.080 disappointment and horniness and a

05:47:50.860 sinking feeling of betrayal she did not

05:47:54.000 write that I'm just threw that in there it

05:47:58.380 was supposed to be a special little a little

05:48:00.120 flavor to the story a little uh a little

05:48:03.140 flavor uh but now all I could think about

05:48:07.420 was how his choices had taken that away

05:48:09.820 from me um and you you mentioned this

05:48:13.180 earlier you your long relationship with the

05:48:15.720 you dated him for a year and a half three

05:48:18.720 months into the relationship ended up in in in jail

05:48:22.700 prison first jail then prison or was it just jail I

05:48:28.980 don't know do you went to different places I

05:48:31.160 didn't understand well he switched so he he

05:48:35.200 went there when he was 17 but to hate

05:48:36.820 number 69 donated $70 oh he hates girl in

05:48:40.520 chair one did your ex get his lunch money

05:48:43.020 stolen too many times thought he'd steal a

05:48:46.480 car to get even he's a terrible thief because

05:48:49.300 law enforcement stole his freedom gg hey

05:48:53.440 Turkish no say no Turkish no no no no no no okay

05:49:03.860 uh let's see uh okay

05:49:07.940 did you write him letters he wrote me a

05:49:12.760 bunch of letters and then um he wanted me to

05:49:17.240 send letters back I think I only sent one

05:49:19.400 letter and then maybe like three pictures

05:49:21.660 letters like he didn't have a phone or

05:49:23.320 anything like what like nudes no no no just

05:49:25.800 like me just like me no nudes or anything

05:49:28.820 like that but he sent me probably like 50

05:49:31.760 letters had you guys hooked up before he

05:49:34.500 went to jail oh yeah of course like he was my

05:49:37.100 first everything my first kiss he was my

05:49:38.820 first boyfriend he was like everything

05:49:41.600 no right backs is crazy wait well I did I call I

05:49:47.380 would call him all the time but at the time I

05:49:50.520 don't know it was just like I mean I don't

05:49:52.940 even know really that's a lot you were what

05:49:54.580 18 under no I was 17 oh 17 oh shit I mean

05:49:58.920 that's a I feel like that's a lot for 17 year

05:50:03.340 old to deal with boyfriends in jail yeah but it

05:50:06.860 was fun like after a while I just was like I

05:50:09.820 don't want to be with somebody like that

05:50:11.580 really yeah he was just not really the best

05:50:14.440 person I guess you could say well it also

05:50:16.340 doesn't sound like you really had a

05:50:18.160 relationship because I mean well I knew him

05:50:20.460 before I mean it doesn't but I mean for all

05:50:23.360 the time that he was in jail like it didn't

05:50:25.420 it doesn't sound like it was like a two-way

05:50:28.440 relationship it just sounded it just sounds

05:50:30.440 like he was you know doing a lot of stuff

05:50:34.040 like yeah all the letters and the phone

05:50:35.880 calls I'm like you were just living your

05:50:37.640 life yeah exactly I agree I agree with you

05:50:40.160 just looking out bro I'm just looking at

05:50:43.640 there's a little bit after a few months of

05:50:46.120 hanging out he finally told me he loved me

05:50:47.980 catching me completely off guard I thought

05:50:50.040 maybe this meant we were moving toward

05:50:52.040 something more serious but then I found out

05:50:54.620 he was still talking to his ex of two years

05:50:56.240 and hanging out with her it made me question

05:50:57.800 everything his intentions his feelings and

05:51:00.520 whether I was just filling a temporary space in

05:51:02.220 his life he had he had even got my initials

05:51:05.620 tattooed on him in prison no this is a

05:51:08.920 different guy this is like a guy that I was

05:51:11.540 talking to for like two months almost three

05:51:14.760 months this was like not that long ago

05:51:16.720 so originally I actually matched with his

05:51:20.000 friend on tinder and then a group of

05:51:22.720 people we went to this like duffy boat we're

05:51:25.880 all hanging out there and then I ended up

05:51:28.320 liking his friend and I was like I want him

05:51:30.500 and then it just started we just like

05:51:32.660 started hanging out like not every day but

05:51:35.100 like pretty much every day and then yeah we

05:51:39.600 do we just we did normal things you know

05:51:41.660 what I mean like everything was going good

05:51:44.200 and then I ran his ex-girlfriend of two

05:51:48.380 years or whatever I ran into her at a

05:51:50.500 restaurant and she had told me that she

05:51:52.300 had been seeing him and they have been

05:51:54.320 getting in fights like she threw glass at

05:51:56.300 him or something like that and she said

05:51:58.440 that she had tried texting me on my

05:51:59.720 Instagram and this is when I didn't have

05:52:02.060 my Instagram because I just got my

05:52:03.220 Instagram back she said she had texted me

05:52:05.280 she never texted me saying that they were

05:52:07.360 hanging out so she knew the whole time

05:52:09.840 that me and him were talking but they

05:52:12.880 were still talking so it's just kind of

05:52:15.420 like a big loop of just it was just

05:52:18.740 pointless interesting was very interesting

05:52:24.720 is that guy out of jail yeah he is I

05:52:30.460 haven't talked to him in a really long

05:52:31.820 time I don't know what he's up to I see

05:52:34.500 going to Turkish you said I thought a guy

05:52:37.040 was going to murder me on our first date

05:52:38.620 oh wait you talked about that last show

05:52:40.580 right yeah okay you said did we talk

05:52:45.140 about like the zodiac sign stuff and

05:52:47.400 compatibility I've got memory loss I

05:52:49.400 don't remember I'm gonna be honest okay

05:52:51.800 but you believe in the zodiac stuff I do

05:52:56.160 believe that they are quite accurate what

05:52:58.840 did they say about Tauruses oh I don't

05:53:01.360 know anything about Tauruses not gonna

05:53:02.660 lie stable they can handle emotional

05:53:04.940 people they're very down-to-earth and

05:53:07.880 grounded oh I love I'm a Taurus I'm also

05:53:11.800 a Taurus mess with the horns you get the

05:53:16.360 fuck that's the second time you said

05:53:20.980 Brian you know it's okay Brian fuck them

05:53:23.160 if they can't take a joke wait joke them

05:53:26.920 if they can't take a fuck it's one of

05:53:30.780 those just what was that George Bush one

05:53:34.800 the fool me once shame on you fool me

05:53:39.260 twice you can't fool me again well the

05:53:45.060 point is you can't fool us yeah yeah

05:53:48.060 green green flags that triumph the red

05:53:51.860 the red flags yeah and then you said

05:53:54.860 red flags that triumph the green so for

05:53:57.020 example like what's something that's

05:53:59.660 like oh my god ew I could never but that

05:54:04.020 green flag is so good that that red flag

05:54:06.300 doesn't matter nothing oh really yeah or the

05:54:09.880 other way around was my like when I think

05:54:13.120 ever what I keep saying like because I'm a

05:54:14.900 mom I had a son and it's made me really

05:54:18.160 look at the world like if I don't change

05:54:19.700 my behavior he's going to copy me and I

05:54:22.940 don't want that and I don't want him to

05:54:24.860 follow in his father's footsteps either

05:54:26.340 now now Brian I do have to tell you this

05:54:29.220 is a first for the whatever podcast so

05:54:31.040 these are Rachel Wilson's cookies nobody

05:54:34.100 can make cookies like this I've never

05:54:36.860 brought any to you and I'm never going

05:54:38.460 to because they're my cookies but I just

05:54:41.520 I just want to let you know that I am

05:54:43.440 going to be eating them on stream and

05:54:45.280 you're going to see and you deserve it I

05:54:47.420 just want to let you know that I drink

05:54:50.060 your milkshake I drink it up I'm gonna

05:54:56.780 send over a drone to come pick up the

05:55:00.200 cookies and break okay you should maybe

05:55:05.580 hey listen I'll get some pizza next time

05:55:07.580 finally I shouldn't you shouldn't you

05:55:10.820 shouldn't you shouldn't you shouldn't

05:55:12.020 have held out on the pizza I always

05:55:16.340 choose my partners according to star

05:55:18.620 signs for example if they truly believe

05:55:21.980 in astrology I won't date them green

05:55:29.060 flags that triumph the red I know girls

05:55:35.220 will be like if he's six foot three I'll

05:55:37.020 ignore red flags no but like low-key some

05:55:40.460 women are like that like someone will be

05:55:42.140 like see for me personally I I don't want

05:55:47.320 a man who's like drinking alcohol every

05:55:49.200 single day um smoking because I've never

05:55:53.180 touched alcohol before I've never touched

05:55:54.860 a cigarette like those are just my values

05:55:57.840 and everything but if he's coming from a

05:55:59.240 place that's like trauma and everything

05:56:02.220 that I'm like kind of like see that's a

05:56:04.760 red flag to me but if he has a green flag

05:56:06.580 where he's like kind of like he's down to

05:56:08.920 earth his heart is pure like he has like

05:56:12.040 literally sometimes people do need a

05:56:13.580 cigarette like sometimes you generally

05:56:14.720 can't control the stress and if that's

05:56:16.360 your reliever and that's gonna make you

05:56:18.600 like not like be aggravated and everything

05:56:21.000 then who am I to be like you know you're

05:56:23.660 done because of you smoke do you know what

05:56:26.000 I mean that's like an example like I'll

05:56:28.720 ignore like me personally I'll ignore um

05:56:31.860 like some some red flags like oh my god I

05:56:35.420 can't believe it like if she has a big

05:56:40.020 labia

05:56:40.540 so that's the red flag

05:56:45.400 I was like say like what's a red flag

05:56:50.440 listen as listen I've been on the board

05:56:52.760 of BLM for months now okay and Brian has

05:56:57.320 swayed me over to whoa big labia matters

05:57:01.980 okay at first at first I just thought it

05:57:04.940 was amusing but now I understand that

05:57:07.700 women who do not possess this quality are

05:57:10.880 indeed ontologically evil

05:57:12.580 hmm what he said um yeah look I I will

05:57:18.540 ignore some red flags if she's got a like a

05:57:22.120 wizard sleeve or you know what I mean come

05:57:30.320 on bro like girls do this shit all the

05:57:32.100 time like if he's packing you'll be like

05:57:34.520 yo I'll give him a pass on like you know

05:57:37.380 like the felonies

05:57:38.460 or he's packing I'll give him a pass on the

05:57:46.400 fucking other women like y'all do that you

05:57:48.220 know I definitely used to and that's how I

05:57:50.440 wound up with the sun

05:57:51.340 wait what you can block out the sun if

05:57:55.460 the curtains if the curtains are correct you

05:57:57.880 can block out the sun right right yeah

05:58:01.540 gotta have big big big enough curtains

05:58:03.380 that's all yeah sometimes if I'm feeling

05:58:05.160 frisky I'd just like a little hat

05:58:07.560 yeah that's fair uh how small is the hat

05:58:14.380 wait are we talking about Israel what do

05:58:19.340 no no what dude what the fuck bro why

05:58:22.820 you why you take the conversation to that

05:58:25.260 I dude I don't know you're anyways I was

05:58:28.280 just talking about some big labias

05:58:29.620 mattering man they do matter had your back

05:58:31.860 and everything and I was like I was eating

05:58:33.840 a cookie over here then you just out of a

05:58:35.720 blue bring up fucking Israel look I don't

05:58:37.420 get look I don't get the all the all the

05:58:39.020 hate I get all this I get all the hate

05:58:40.800 I get all this hate from women from men

05:58:42.600 for for having a preference I prefer

05:58:46.840 women who are well endowed in the labia

05:58:51.460 department y'all have penis size

05:58:55.060 preferences I can't have a labia

05:58:56.520 preference a donated $69 damn now I want

05:59:00.460 to bring to a cookie and two roast beef

05:59:02.900 and cheddars look man you know what I

05:59:06.560 mean you know what I mean like you you

05:59:08.940 guys have penis size preference right

05:59:11.440 they know what I mean they know what I

05:59:17.440 mean you know what I mean any bi women

05:59:19.940 bisexual anybody yeah yeah yeah yeah you

05:59:24.080 have you have a labia preference no no no

05:59:27.240 you don't care no oh you're bi too you

05:59:30.980 smash some chicks no I feel like you got

05:59:33.420 like with the dudes you don't have a lot

05:59:35.260 of riz but with the women like you be

05:59:37.000 you be smashing a lot of girls I do not

05:59:40.040 be smashing lots so sorry you be you be

05:59:42.860 making sweet love lots of girls she does

05:59:45.220 not be smashing them Brian what the fuck I

05:59:48.860 thought you said you were okay my bad I

05:59:50.340 thought I'm a sir I do not I don't know

05:59:53.660 whatever okay let's see more notes we have

05:59:57.280 Turkish here importance of marital status

06:00:01.140 oh acceptable age range is that the age

06:00:03.680 gap stuff I think we talked about we

06:00:05.280 already hit the age gap you said to be

06:00:07.020 honest everyone is entitled to living a

06:00:08.640 life they are comfortable going to bed

06:00:10.900 with however I am extremely I guess pure

06:00:14.040 word in my ways so I guess some things

06:00:18.460 that others do may shock me but

06:00:19.880 nevertheless no disrespect or

06:00:21.820 disagreement with what they do to make

06:00:23.560 themselves happy

06:00:24.220 we saved all of that we still have it

06:00:27.680 but Andrew was begging me oh whenever

06:00:31.140 whenever a girl claims to be pure or you

06:00:35.820 know traditional he's like Brian you have

06:00:39.180 to pull up her Instagram oh my god oh my

06:00:43.940 god hang on tell Brian no tell him no say

06:00:48.240 no Brian well it's too it's too late Austin

06:00:50.920 already pulled it up oh my god Austin

06:00:53.260 cancel Austin do you have it Austin is

06:00:58.360 officially canceled so we're gonna pull

06:01:02.360 up Turkish Turkish's Turkish's Instagram

06:01:06.920 I don't have anything bad on there make

06:01:09.680 it a little bigger a little bigger thank

06:01:12.500 you wait hold on a little smaller now a

06:01:16.400 little smaller click that first one or the

06:01:19.260 second one the third one my bad yeah oh my

06:01:21.580 god go go over

06:01:23.800 that's a rave outfit straight up it is I

06:01:25.480 went to a rave oh okay I went to my first

06:01:27.540 rave next next next you stalked me or

06:01:31.900 something because you definitely this is

06:01:33.220 on your public Instagram I'm just a girl

06:01:35.200 okay one more there or it's okay uh and

06:01:38.220 then stalking people Brian on their public

06:01:40.260 account what okay next okay okay is that

06:01:45.940 your third rave or did you change at the

06:01:48.020 same rave no it's a two-day rave one's a

06:01:50.240 Friday one's a Saturday okay X okay and

06:01:53.600 then scroll down let's see okay that's not

06:01:55.840 terrible that's not terrible I promise I

06:01:58.100 haven't won anything like that after the

06:01:59.600 rave I didn't want to be the only one like

06:02:01.460 stop the cap I swear you're a fucking liar

06:02:05.600 you're a fucking liar okay

06:02:10.020 god forbid I want to dress for the occasion

06:02:14.240 god forbid hey it's okay it's not right I'm just you know pointing it out yeah you know when you're in Rome fuck the Romans whoa that's that's crazy it's not too bad guys I'm a good girl

06:02:26.780 hmm okay uh we're gonna get into your notes now kitty or kitty loves kush it's my

06:02:34.720 Instagram yeah what's your what's your actual name of it

06:02:37.260 Gabby okay okay yeah do you prefer kitty or Gabby no Gabby okay

06:02:41.000 were you just reading the Instagram yeah so you said I used to be a modern thinking

06:02:47.120 woman and how that backfired on me big time big big time did I spell it funny

06:02:53.720 big time sorry what's that what movie is that from uh wait what's that anybody chat

06:03:00.500 what movie is that from it's it's that uh I love you man I think with uh Paul Rudd I

06:03:10.200 think chat I haven't seen it big big time chat can chat help me out is it from I love

06:03:19.800 you man hello big time okay sorry I'm being so cringe okay my bad uh I have learned a lot

06:03:32.080 and I want to put modern thinking women in the hot seat they think they are winning by using

06:03:36.200 men and it's it's that's fucking disgusting to see oh um so I feel like the reason I've

06:03:46.020 struggled a lot with this is related to that with like friendships with women it's because

06:03:50.280 I've vocalized like you know they'll tell me that they're setting up dates so they can get

06:03:54.640 free dinners and I'm like okay um you're always complaining to me afterwards about how like you're

06:04:00.720 lonely and about how you can never settle down with a man and then when I call them out about

06:04:05.860 their behavior and how they're acting they get really upset with me um wait what was the question

06:04:11.600 um but yeah basically it it I don't like it and I end up having disagreements with women

06:04:20.420 all right yeah and you said oh um so so you think all modern women like use men just like that like

06:04:29.280 straight up say that well you specifically said to put the modern women in the hot seat yes if there

06:04:35.560 were any who wanted to who were open to it and saying like oh yeah I'm so happy because that's

06:04:40.580 what would happen I would make friends with these girls and they're like oh I'm so happy living my

06:04:44.760 life and then they're calling me complaining about the decisions that they're making like oh my god

06:04:50.180 I ended up going to his house at 2 a.m. I was like girl we talked about that and we were on the

06:04:54.420 phone and you said you were gonna tell him no yeah but like that's but I'm just I'm just

06:05:00.720 misunderstanding she's a slut and she knows it yeah like it's not necessarily like the modern

06:05:06.300 woman I just I don't see like the correlation don't do that yeah but it's like it's not just

06:05:12.020 traditional and modern because like not all modern women that's what I'm looking at though

06:05:16.700 so okay so you're specifically looking like in the promiscuous he said it I want to put modern

06:05:22.420 women in the hot seat yeah that but like that's what I'm talking about too because that's what

06:05:26.400 you wrote I don't understand what your question is can you clarify do you do you believe all modern

06:05:31.120 women are like that because you put specifically the modern I don't know all modern women I literally

06:05:35.840 just said the women that I've dealt with who are modern thinking okay who get mad so it's just

06:05:41.600 in your in your experience the one because that's all I can speak for you okay

06:05:46.220 oh more notes yeah definitely uh okay you said you used to date older men you were groomed by an

06:05:59.120 older man who made me believe he loved me and I'd like to talk about the damaging effects grooming

06:06:03.980 can have on someone uh one question for clarification when you dated this older man were you an adult

06:06:12.360 um no so it was my baby daddy I was 16 he was 25 that's that's a yikes okay uh so that was

06:06:23.420 would that be grooming Andrew is that grooming

06:06:26.820 Andrew is that Rachel Andrew tell Rachel to sit down is that Rachel you're talking to Andrew

06:06:40.780 can we have her on oh we can't hear you yeah that's Rachel I'm talking get get you guys want

06:06:45.720 Rachel cameo quick cameo quick cameo they want they want the cameo quick cameo she can do like

06:06:53.440 you know maybe just walk by or something they just want you to pop on for a minute just like pop her

06:06:58.520 head into the frame I want you to pop just do a little wave show the show the pile of cookies by the

06:07:03.580 way show the cookies I try to get Madison to get a cookie but from Costco but they were all out

06:07:10.200 all right all right oh okay we get a little Rachel

06:07:15.140 the picture in the back excuse me oh okay she says no she said that there's nobody on the panel

06:07:29.500 who's worth debating oh tell Rachel I say hello oh uh Q says hi actually recover from this oh she

06:07:38.020 says hi Q she says you're great thank you Rachel she's great as well yeah he says thank you tell

06:07:43.360 Rachel we love her cookies we want on the show next time you can't have my wife's cookies

06:07:47.560 way above your pay grade there have been many who have come before you who have made endless demands

06:07:54.780 have been offered a fortune for these cookies they will never be anybody's cookies but mine

06:08:00.340 all right and we have uh I guess more notes uh you said you had a porn hub at one point and I realized

06:08:11.960 I didn't want to upload anymore because I felt empty I tried going on sugar dating websites and it was a

06:08:17.980 mess my self-esteem was low and I didn't know how to go about asking money from men I have plenty of

06:08:23.340 online dating stories from over 12 years of using dating apps I learned a lot about men and women

06:08:28.100 through dating apps uh so you used to you had a porn hub account so like you used to do porn or

06:08:33.940 like I had it when the whole like only fans craze came out like in 2020 I got really interested in it

06:08:41.480 and I started just thinking like oh this is how people are making their money and I had I was not

06:08:49.920 sober I was like totally in a really bad state of mind I'm not I don't think anybody should be doing

06:08:54.420 only fans and then um what kind of content were you making bg um yeah so it was with my boyfriend

06:09:00.200 and we made a couple of videos and then I did like two solo videos and I saw he wasn't into it and I

06:09:05.320 was like okay this is clearly not something he's into why I don't want to force him into like doing

06:09:10.700 it with me okay and you said the sugar dating website so seeking yeah were you on that one do we still

06:09:16.980 have that pulled up austin the the uh what's your price one uh oh I signed up there one time yeah

06:09:24.780 have any of you been on that emma no have any of you had a sugar daddy no no really wait don't

06:09:35.040 you do only fans no you don't do only fans no who does only fans I don't think any nobody here

06:09:40.080 wait hold on just a second let me do a little investigation uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh

06:09:49.760 oh you don't do only fans my bad for some reason oh it's because you have a hoobie

06:10:00.300 I don't know why yeah I saw the hoobie I was like does she have okay uh okay let's let's uh this

06:10:08.440 website we're not sponsored guys just some girl a couple shows ago mentioned it I'd not heard about

06:10:15.220 it somehow and apparently these girls you can go on the website um and essentially you get paid to

06:10:22.700 go on a date it's not like sex or it's not like but the guys just pay for you to go on a date with

06:10:29.980 um kind of pathetic for the dudes um sugar sugar daddy no have you okay who here sent sent a foot

06:10:41.200 pick okay you sent it for for money right of course how much did you charge

06:10:46.760 50 to 100 okay all right that's that that's the going rate for uh the feet pics I guess uh q you

06:10:57.200 ever sent a foot pick no no never not once okay I don't think women like feet

06:11:05.460 okay all right uh let's see here uh I had a few men who wanted to be my sugar daddies and like offered

06:11:16.380 me a bunch of stuff but it's like it felt too too transactional and like I had to do something in

06:11:23.280 exchange and that just does not feel right to be pressured into something for exchange for something

06:11:29.440 else okay uh let's see for a very back to your notes for a very long time you said you had an

06:11:36.020 attraction attachment to older men but after online dating for over a decade I realized a lot of them

06:11:40.780 had a lot of psychological problems a lot of men on those sites were living double lives or very

06:11:45.800 controlling not to say that every man who's dating online is like that I also came across many good

06:11:50.900 men while on my search but I wasn't interested because my mind was not in the right place uh you said

06:11:56.800 I'm so tired of hearing that men are trash and men ain't shit we need men men need to be loved

06:12:02.640 and cherished too also say no to situations going around the table on this uh do we need men

06:12:09.520 do we need men do we need men yeah why not why not it's very non-committal but okay do we need men

06:12:19.080 absolutely I feel like we can't let you get a pass on this uh Savannah do we need men yes we do okay

06:12:30.260 okay yes for what oh boy okay uh like is this just in general like survival that whole thing I mean

06:12:42.540 obviously we need both of us no no not for procreation like for survival okay yeah so like

06:12:49.880 pretend all the men disappear tomorrow does women's country does it do really well or does it do really

06:12:57.040 bad without the men I don't know too much about like all that so sure I'll say that we need you guys

06:13:05.160 okay Emma I think so you you think so okay yeah we're doing it yes okay all right now may I counter

06:13:15.880 might I counter with men don't fucking need women at all not even not even a little bit except and only

06:13:23.260 for the purposes of procreation and literally we wouldn't we would not actually need them in society

06:13:29.040 for anything else that's my counter what wow Andrew I cannot believe the misogyny you were spewing

06:13:40.760 your wife you would you fucking misogynist Andrew wow look I I guess I deserve this type of

06:13:49.620 chastisement I mean there would be no cookies that yeah yeah you would I feel like I feel like I feel

06:13:55.800 like a man could get a hold of this recipe and make these cookies I feel like it's possible I feel

06:14:00.380 like Dave Ramsey can make these cookies yeah that it could be done the thing is though is like I think

06:14:07.200 about this from the standpoint of well there's societies right this second I can point to where

06:14:12.860 women are basically classes second-class citizens and so basically their design in those societies is

06:14:18.940 specifically for procreation those societies seem to be doing just fine now now hang on before

06:14:25.740 you say are you saying Andrew that that's the way it should be because I'd already I can already

06:14:30.640 see you I can see the gears turning no not saying that's how it should be just saying descriptively

06:14:37.380 it is true that those science societies exist right now I can point to many of them but none of you can

06:14:43.540 point to a single society in which men are the second class citizens which are thriving no one

06:14:49.240 bluff is donated sixty nine dollars make me a sandwich Andrew it'll be fine

06:14:55.140 is Wayne Brady I don't know what the fuck goes in on

06:15:03.340 yeah it's a complicated it's complicated um

06:15:08.400 I'll get through the mayonnaise on one piece of bread and then the mustard on the other piece of

06:15:14.760 bread or do they both go on the same piece of bread

06:15:17.900 a question for the ages

06:15:23.360 let's see uh you said your stance on dating is to only date with intention I don't waste my time with

06:15:31.240 somebody who does not match my future which means I'm looking at their character what type of

06:15:35.480 relationships does this man value is he close with his family what does he do with his time

06:15:40.160 yeah like no okay all right uh you said you found a good match through tinder after many people told

06:15:48.440 me they met their husband or wife on tinder I gave it a shot I ended up matching with someone who I

06:15:53.120 went to high school with uh you guys were very compatible uh you guys were looking for something

06:15:59.140 stable managed to find that through online dating uh let's see uh how many dates did you go on

06:16:05.100 from tinder um it was just him he was my first tinder date oh and then okay and now you guys are

06:16:13.040 together right you said you had a drastic weight loss you were 50 pounds heavier than you are now

06:16:18.480 you can share how loss has loss has helped me like how the weight oh the weight loss I was like

06:16:25.880 somebody died uh has I and how I was never happy when I was fat I don't think body positivity is the

06:16:33.480 answer in today's society I do think we should encourage each other to lose weight and find

06:16:38.440 other healthy coping skills I feel like nobody wants to talk about food being an addiction but

06:16:43.740 they're so quick to call out a pothead crackhead and alcoholic is this directed at me what the fuck

06:16:50.660 no I just feel like a bunch of girls with like the whole like when I was growing up it was not okay

06:16:56.700 to show your stomach it was not okay to show your midriff if you were fat and then like I don't know

06:17:00.760 what's going on nowadays now is it okay to some people and like I'm not saying oh I'm shaming you

06:17:06.360 but like dude I'm gonna look at your stomach and just like is it okay to you is it okay to you

06:17:11.720 what do you mean I mean do you think it's okay for women to walk around like these uh I think that

06:17:18.600 you're kind of alluding to the bovines who walk around and have the uh the short crop shirts and look

06:17:25.360 like they're about to begin grazing in the field um do you think that that's okay that the um

06:17:31.600 these kind of uh you know heavy set bovines are able to do this

06:17:35.600 no I don't think they should be doing it I don't think it's like body positivity I think that

06:17:43.120 food can be an addiction and what's wrong like if you're concerned with your friend who's like

06:17:49.520 overweight with having a conversation with them instead of just like cheering them on like oh yeah let's

06:17:54.540 go eat girl like what's wrong with bringing up that conversation

06:17:57.180 you know um one of the kind of maybe for a little bit of a back and forth you know that men body shame

06:18:06.220 each other constantly yeah it's uh it's per in fact it's perhaps the number one insult I've heard

06:18:11.800 from one man to another in my life even if they're very good-natured with each other like each other

06:18:18.140 quite a bit right it's very common for instance inside of male groups to say hey shut up you know

06:18:23.900 a fat boy shut up right I've heard this more times than I can count

06:18:28.940 and I'm not sure that that dynamic really exists anymore in modernity with women it seems like

06:18:35.980 that's considered inappropriate or taboo or something like this or at least something that

06:18:40.780 a friend wouldn't say to you whereas with men it's all but common I mean all but common

06:18:47.660 am I wrong there q no we bond over it we insult each other we make fun of it's like who has the

06:18:54.540 best roast yeah exactly we have roast sessions with one another you do it with a woman and

06:18:58.860 it's damn near world war three

06:19:00.860 it's true so I just so so I don't really see a problem with what you're saying in fact a creator

06:19:13.420 who got in a lot of trouble for saying something similar Pearl Davis constantly brings this point

06:19:18.700 up that men ridicule each other non-stop when it comes to appropriate clothing and how they should

06:19:26.140 or shouldn't look while they're out in public and this and that and women just really don't seem to

06:19:29.900 police each other at all but instead kind of affirm everything like if there's a woman who's very

06:19:34.540 heavyset with a very short cropped shirt with her stomach hanging out other women will tell her

06:19:40.220 things which are obvious lies like you look great you're beautiful you're awesome you go girl

06:19:46.060 anything for your self-esteem isn't isn't that kind of counterintuitive it is it's like why are you lying

06:19:52.780 to me I would have rather had my friends tell me oh wait we have that mean like help me do we

06:19:58.620 remember that mean from from sunday show uh shit well dang remember it was like the motivation the

06:20:06.460 men's motivation woman's motivation well I would like to ask a quick question of the panel I'll try

06:20:12.380 to is that is that sabotage yeah women do you think that do women do this to sabotage each other

06:20:19.420 it might be the downloads folder yes I think so 100 in my experience women do it too because they

06:20:25.820 want to look better than each other yeah I was going to say an evil psychist intersexual competition

06:20:30.780 it's just of course you're going to tell another woman she looked good when she really doesn't

06:20:34.300 you don't have to worry about her she's not a threat to you but bring a woman around your man

06:20:37.980 who looks good and watch how it changes yeah

06:20:44.860 all right more notes then uh you said you introduced your baby daddy to a chick while I

06:20:50.380 was seeking out a threesome and they wound up getting together we were all substance abusers

06:20:54.700 not saying that to shame her or anyone but it opened the door for these situations to occur

06:20:59.180 wait whoa whoa whoa wait wait what what happened what yeah I need to hear that again so um so my baby

06:21:08.140 daddy was a drug dealer in town he's still cocaine I used to ride with him in the car and we stopped

06:21:14.220 at a 7-eleven I walked in and I saw this girl who I thought was really attractive I walked up to her

06:21:20.140 I told her I liked her hair and I was trying to like initiate a threesome um

06:21:25.420 it was and whose behest did did both of you want this or just one of you want this so this was from

06:21:31.020 my baby daddy groomer who encouraged like started the whole planted the seed in my head about threesomes

06:21:36.620 and everything and I would that doesn't really answer the question though is that something that you

06:21:41.100 wanted so I would do it to please him and I would feel really bad afterwards um okay but I did it because

06:21:50.140 I was really insecure and I didn't want to be alone um and at that time I felt like I needed his approval

06:21:56.860 um so yeah I walked into a 7-eleven I complimented her and then she ended up taking us to her friend's

06:22:04.140 house that was down the street where she was partying he ended up being her new connect for coke and he

06:22:10.620 started connecting with her and um they started meeting up behind my back and then we broke up within

06:22:17.180 like a year of them being together and about four months after our breakup he had gotten her pregnant

06:22:23.900 and yes they that's awesome I was so so mad but then when I saw what the baby looked like I was so

06:22:32.380 happy for them I was so happy for them and my son has a beautiful half sister and she's nine years old

06:22:39.500 and um I'm in contact with the mom and my baby daddy should be getting out in February but we're not

06:22:46.700 planning on getting together getting out of prison for some is he going to get together with um

06:22:55.340 with baby mama too no um he actually told me he was gay after I told him I was pregnant after a planned

06:23:03.500 pregnancy that was his excuse he couldn't have got you pregnant oh um you know it was weird because

06:23:11.980 we planned the pregnancy and during our whole relationship on and off he had shown a lot of

06:23:19.660 like bisexual tendencies so it's kind of one of those things that's up in the air maybe he's bisexual

06:23:26.060 maybe he is gay okay well did he usually have his threesomes with two women um we did like both we

06:23:34.860 did group sex we did it with his guy friends with my girlfriends what was the body count again it was

06:23:43.260 11 it was when I was 16 and it was like me and my teenage friend and then his like two friends and yeah

06:23:49.580 yeah and they did stuff together these two guys so the two he never did anything with guys in front

06:23:56.940 of me but there were like other things in the bedroom that he would request that made me think

06:24:01.660 maybe he was a little gay dude like dude like it peg um not with like a strap on but like with other

06:24:10.860 stuff yeah he was into that sort of thing oh word so he's having a good time in prison

06:24:21.900 huh i gotta play that huh

06:24:25.180 i got a dude i can introduce him to named wes

06:24:39.340 okay uh let's see here uh baby daddy was a coke dealer okay we talked about that uh he wanted to

06:24:56.380 make it look like he was helping in peanut butter nipples donated 69 long time viewer first time

06:25:05.260 donation although the women on the podcast maddie employee is the sexiest girl without a doubt i

06:25:12.060 appreciate the whole podcast crew keep it up peanut butter nipples thank you peanut butter nipples that

06:25:20.140 was very kind of you uh well we're going to do the roast section now guys 19 tts we'll wrap up with

06:25:28.060 the roast section 19 tts does anybody have um any uh topics they'd like to hit so i would like to bring

06:25:37.900 one thing up very briefly which is that the pizza section where they actually you know you fed you

06:25:45.420 fed the wildlife in the studio and then the rose set i thought that that was great you should do that

06:25:51.820 again you think so yeah yeah that was that was yeah yeah i mean it's uh you kind of like do the

06:25:58.380 intermission let people eat you let the roast in the middle it's not bad it's not bad you know what i

06:26:05.740 mean you know what i mean you know what i mean you know what i mean you know what i mean man i

06:26:12.300 shouldn't see senor atlas all resources donated 19 dollars yes we need men if there were only modern

06:26:20.380 women left in humanity they will find a way declare war on each other hmm that was uh atlas thank you

06:26:28.780 there for the tts i don't believe that they would ever be able to form uh sufficient militaries or groupings

06:26:35.020 in order to declare war on each other listen up andrew that's a very misogynistic statement of

06:26:40.700 you um you know you're gonna have to you're gonna have to qualify you know you're gonna have to back

06:26:47.100 that claim up you bigot that bitch fits you gotta you need to back up your claim andrew otherwise i

06:26:55.260 reject your fucking bias so much bias tonight against against poor andrew all all i did like you you

06:27:02.620 agree with me right am i wrong no i agree with you don't forget my video brian you're the one you're

06:27:08.300 the one who doesn't agree you're the feminist you're benedict arnold benedict arnold no oh wait no no

06:27:14.940 you can't cope with the benedict arnold after you already benedict arnold did i think i think yeah

06:27:21.660 yeah you can't do that inception dict it's benedict inception benedict inception benedict

06:27:31.340 exception benedict exception he's really trying to get out of his judas moment there brian he really

06:27:38.300 is he's trying to like he's trying to avoid it guys twenty dollar tts if you want to do a little

06:27:43.180 roast session uh anisa back here she she asked me before the show she came up to me she's like brian

06:27:48.940 please ensure that the chat just brutally roasts me she asked me she approached me so if you guys

06:27:56.460 want same what maddie also has been asking for too uh q he needs a turkish she was like please you

06:28:03.820 gotta get roast roast the shit out of me you want the tts you gotta roast uh i think we need a little

06:28:11.420 roast on uh on you know how many burrito comments there's about to be oh the burritos guys don't i'm

06:28:23.420 just trying to many burrito comments bro i'm trying i'm trying to like distract i'm trying to distract

06:28:28.620 them from me i've been they've been roasting me too much i'm trying to shift shift to like the other

06:28:34.860 people you know i just feel like they're not done with the burritos brian i should say it if only

06:28:41.740 madison got me a hot dog from costco i i'm pretty confident that would not be better pretty confident

06:28:50.380 i don't know andrew you don't like you don't like uh you don't like sausage what's up

06:28:55.420 what's um you don't like sausage vector donated twenty dollars

06:28:59.980 hey andrew what would you do if you found 95 theses nailed to your front door and the man

06:29:05.500 responsible eating a pineapple pizza on the lawn what's a thesis dialed in 0430 donated twenty dollars

06:29:15.980 thank you it's all natural selection thank you vector just competing selection paths specifically

06:29:21.500 are high offspring low investment slash iq spray and pray versus k low offspring high invest

06:29:29.420 slash iq virtue focused selection mollen uft w oh it's all selection all of its natural slay it

06:29:37.660 has to be there's no way around it but that's an argument for me and q for another day but i really

06:29:43.260 appreciated him having the argument i always like seeing him on the show because he's one of the

06:29:47.580 guys i can kind of spar back and forth with yeah um and it's it's all friendly and on good terms yeah

06:29:53.180 i enjoyed it too it should andrew i got a question for the panel here

06:29:57.180 who because it's kind of related to your thing who here has had a threesome

06:30:05.420 q you never no you only like to disappoint one woman at the time only one woman at a time there

06:30:11.260 you go i can't do two there you go okay me too me too never never had a threesome

06:30:16.620 all right um let's see oh uh any final things any of you want to talk about any questions maybe

06:30:35.020 you got a question for q question for me question for andrew a dating topic anything um may i say just

06:30:40.700 a couple of things a couple i'm kidding wait before you say a couple does anybody else got

06:30:46.700 something what you got emma nothing what you what you got kendra i guess like does it really matter

06:30:52.300 like how a girl dresses depending if you want to dress like if you want to date her or not

06:30:56.460 yeah why

06:31:05.260 pineapple underscore girl donated 19 dollars girl in chair two looks like the crimson chin from the

06:31:11.180 fairly odd parents cartoon so so if a man walked over to you in a trench coat with nothing under it and

06:31:22.540 opened it up and asked you for a date would you go on one with him what did you just say

06:31:26.460 if a man in a trench coat with nothing under it walked over to you and then opened it so that you

06:31:30.940 could see the full monty would you go on a date with him the whole what everything he had nothing on

06:31:38.940 under the trench coat and he opened the trench coat said you want to go on a date would you go on a date

06:31:43.660 with him okay but girls don't walk around like showing all that can we pull up okay so what's the answer

06:31:50.620 to the question if i go around flashing somebody yeah i know i'm not asking what you would do i'm

06:31:56.620 asking you this question if a guy in a trench coat with nothing under it walked over and then undid the

06:32:01.660 trench coat and opened it up and there was nothing under the trench coat would you go and ask you on

06:32:06.700 a date would you go on a date with him i don't understand the relevance to this question are you

06:32:10.540 going to answer the question why won't you just answer the question yes if he's you would if he's

06:32:15.740 packing no i'm kidding no i wouldn't want to dare them what no you wouldn't so i guess it matters

06:32:20.460 what people wear people don't wear that though yeah i mean yes there's people that wear that if

06:32:27.660 you assume for a second for instance that women uh who are on the beach are literally in a pair of

06:32:33.020 bra and panties right they're literally in bra and panties that's what they're in and so the idea here

06:32:39.820 is that just like you probably would not prefer that a guy came over to you with a trench coat which is

06:32:45.100 basically wearing nothing and then opened it up that there could be many men who would not be

06:32:50.140 particularly appreciative of women being very scantily clad that's why it would matter the same

06:32:55.100 reason that preference matters to you is the same reason that preference would matter to us right so

06:32:59.100 if a guy walks around without a shirt on i shouldn't accept the date either yeah so these are social

06:33:06.300 taboos versus natural taboos so there's plenty of cultures where women for instance will walk around

06:33:12.700 with no shirt and that's not considered to be any type of taboo whatsoever however nudity cross

06:33:19.660 culture almost universally is always considered to be something which needs to be covered up

06:33:24.460 this would be your genital region specifically

06:33:29.740 okay yeah

06:33:33.260 who had the other questions i mean if women just want to walk around topless all day i doubt that

06:33:38.940 there's going to be many men who object i kind of just meant like if she you know shows a little

06:33:42.940 cleavage here and there not the whole ordeal but yeah so these are so you're kind of intersecting

06:33:48.540 with social taboos so the idea here is the type of woman who generally would walk around their cleavage

06:33:54.300 showing type of woman who generally would likely be promiscuous from a man's perspective and so that's

06:33:59.420 why he would probably be looking for women who didn't do that the idea is not that you're doing something

06:34:04.860 particularly wrong right what are you doing which is wrong well you're not actually doing anything

06:34:09.980 wrong but you're sending out a signal that would be against the preferences of the man

06:34:14.540 okay so like stereotyped kind of well i think that stereotypes exist for a good reason

06:34:22.540 i think that human beings usually use heuristics and use kind of mental shortcuts

06:34:27.340 in order to make snap very quick judgments even though the conveyance of information is

06:34:34.700 incorrect so for instance if somebody if a cop on the you know on the the horn says uh this is a white

06:34:41.580 male suspect uh he's uh he's six foot and he's in you know a black shirt and jeans now that doesn't

06:34:49.100 really actually tell you very much but it tells you enough it's a mental shortcut so that you can relay

06:34:55.340 enough information to somebody that they can understand what you're saying but human beings operate

06:34:59.660 this way with everything they do you know what i mean like for instance hand me that i haven't really

06:35:06.140 given you much information but you you probably can ascertain what i'm asking you to hand me this is

06:35:12.220 the same thing when it comes to stereotypes we use these mental shortcuts because we're kind of pattern

06:35:18.300 recognition machines so the more we see a behavior with one particular grouping of or cluster of people

06:35:25.260 the more we tend to stereotype that cluster of people in a negative or positive light and that's

06:35:30.540 part of the survival mechanism of human beings including you for instance for you if you saw a

06:35:35.740 group of men walking towards you at 11 30 at night you might cross the street right

06:35:44.300 yeah so you just took a mental shortcut and stereotyped an entire group of men

06:35:49.740 and they could all be gay yeah and and by the way perhaps rightfully so you perhaps stereotype them

06:35:57.500 rightfully so no i don't even think anybody would blame you i wouldn't blame you q would you blame

06:36:02.380 her absolutely not absolutely not right it seems totally reasonable to me that you would make such a

06:36:08.460 stereotypical kind of um you know idea in your head i need to cross the street this could be very

06:36:14.140 dangerous for me i wouldn't beat you up for that but it's a stereotype right because it's like assuming

06:36:20.860 the worst the probability that exists that you it could be bad or it could be somebody who would rob

06:36:26.620 you or say you you know you don't want to take that chance so you just cross the street yep

06:36:33.500 yeah and so this is why same thing you know you see women who dress in very kind of promiscuous clothing

06:36:40.380 right or wrong the judgment that they are going to be promiscuous women i'm sure many of them won't

06:36:46.700 be but you can understand why men would judge it that way

06:36:57.420 i mean does that make sense or am i way off there

06:37:02.220 that makes sense okay were you able to find the instagram by the way uh no what is it

06:37:07.260 uh whatever don't worry don't worry about it all good uh sorry guys we had that oh we had the tts

06:37:13.420 pause there for a sec we'll let them come through rachel wilson donated twenty dollars ask panelists who

06:37:19.740 plan to vote what the three branches of the federal government are uh anybody want to take a crack at

06:37:25.900 answering this are they asking what the three of them are or they what are they asking yeah bro oh that

06:37:32.060 that was the question said something about vote for the three like who you're voting for or what

06:37:37.580 they are the legislative go back the legislative branch the judicial branch and the presidential

06:37:43.820 branch executive wow it's close yeah executive executive yeah we can give her that all right

06:37:50.220 we can give her that blahfist donated twenty dollars only real threesomes toe not one of those guy

06:37:57.580 guy girl things we were exhausted and he left before she even arrived

06:38:05.420 bluff us thank you for the message i've only had to raise those girls twenty dollars yo timmy thank

06:38:09.580 you man q you the tamu kevin samuels boom roasted brixton let me cop that mouse you nerd anisa you have

06:38:18.620 a horrible rbf boom roasted oh tg tonight chat craigasm all right thank you nico for donated twenty dollars

06:38:27.100 yeah jenka thank you therefore blonde was complaining men need to do more but she can't

06:38:31.500 even carry a conversation is combative and just genuinely not agreeable at all what not true

06:38:38.460 not true oh not true i just don't like this all right you just disagreed what

06:38:44.940 andrew as a sustenance identifying as a burrito be careful if you eat too many burritos and cookies you

06:38:51.980 will end up like brixton with a massive earth-shatteringly fat plumpshus dumpy your choice

06:38:59.100 i've been losing tons of weight not gaining it bro what the hell

06:39:04.460 vintage car with zero miles donated twenty dollars yes it matters how a girl dresses for example i'd never

06:39:12.220 date a girl who wears camo to a podcast please for the love of god take that and burn it also maddie say

06:39:20.940 pineapple master baker donated twenty dollars marrying a three hundred and four is like buying

06:39:28.220 a used rental car you don't put your key in something driven that hard by that many men

06:39:36.300 master baker thank you man their sudo master chef donated twenty dollars the cars slash woman analogy

06:39:43.020 is perfect low miles a must differences i like cars fast so i sometimes drive hard women i hit it

06:39:50.940 right keep it tight but brian just goes to town with his burritos justin martin's donated twenty

06:39:58.860 dollars in soviet russia burrito eat brian

06:40:02.460 huh what the fuck bro that's true damn dude soviet russia burrito eat you you have a better

06:40:11.180 accent than me roth underscore psa donated twenty dollars i won't date anyone that dresses in pajamas

06:40:18.700 or lingerie in public seeking attention by the way you dress then getting offended by whom you get

06:40:24.940 attention from is a problem in society roth thank thank you man appreciate it uh we have a

06:40:32.140 couple super chats here um if you guys can do it through stream labs just because

06:40:37.180 easier um john also the threesome lady is the one that has baby daddy issues no way

06:40:43.020 was okay hang on gabby this came through i've got to ask this right this has been asked like 50 times

06:40:50.300 so i'm gonna ask don't be offended but people are wondering about the chin they're wondering if there

06:40:56.460 was some surgery there with the chin or if that's just the all natural chin no i have had cosmetic

06:41:02.220 surgery i have considered my chin actually i think it's funny that the chat's bringing it up

06:41:07.660 there i mean i i've heard so many at this point please andrew ask her about the chin and i'm like okay

06:41:15.660 fine i'll ask her thank you for answering i appreciate it you're welcome

06:41:26.140 spiritual awakening brian you're a hoe for the george floyd joke wait it was a joke oh oh

06:41:37.020 oh william cassaris thank you for the hundred dollar soup chat as the postmodern world of the

06:41:42.460 21st century has continued to sink even further into relativism and modern feminism is a catastrophe

06:41:49.420 and a detriment to both men and women leading mostly women towards nihilism hashtag christ

06:41:55.740 is king william thank you very much for the very generous super chat very much uh appreciate your

06:42:02.060 support man thank you we have david's dave selwent with the canadian hundred merci beaucoup

06:42:08.940 thoughts on men in uniform going around the table men in uniform like how so police soldier firefighter

06:42:18.060 um i think they're good yes is that the right question furry furry what wait somebody else answer

06:42:27.580 i'm confused i'd love to see my man in a uniform i love a man in a uniform it's pretty hot emma no

06:42:34.620 no only if they're fire only fire not soldier not cop no you don't you're not like a you wouldn't date

06:42:42.540 a cop maybe have you been never mind what huh what wait what alex what about you it depends on the

06:42:52.860 uniform yes uniform mm-hmm okay all right dave selwent thank you very much for the uh canadian

06:43:01.020 canadian canadian super chat would you guys date a canadian yeah yeah but hold on a quebecois

06:43:09.820 yeah it's like a french canadian yeah why not oh okay all right

06:43:19.660 uh okay that's cool uh guys if you want get your last minute roast in we are still doing the

06:43:24.860 roast session 20 20 dts uh could you pull it up to uh twitch guys go to twitch dot tv

06:43:34.700 slash whatever final call out of the night and drop us a follow mod spamming in the youtube chat if you

06:43:41.180 can drop us it's brian thank for the follow good name by the way luke's thank for the prime one minute

06:43:47.260 ago i still think it's bugged though since you dropped it so if you guys can can you uh drop us

06:43:52.700 a little prime sub in the chat be very much appreciated the panel's bugged boys the whole

06:43:58.860 panel's bugged boys it's bugged boys also you got to go to our discord discord.gg slash whatever

06:44:07.180 pull that bad boy up got discord we got a bunch of cool stuff discord.gg slash whatever that's where

06:44:13.660 you got to go we got the hate mail got behind the scenes you got to check that oh my goodness look

06:44:17.900 at all that wow look at all that cool stuff in the yeah the behind the scenes and also what you got to

06:44:24.380 do is you got to go to debate university.com you got to check it out because andrew over there he's

06:44:31.580 going to teach you how to be a real good master debater right he is the master debater the master

06:44:37.820 debater he's a grand master debater and you got to go debate university.com

06:44:45.100 it's there it is verbal combat is the course andrew he'll teach you how to

06:44:51.660 make mincemeat out of them uh the people you're debating against and also like i'm wearing such a

06:44:57.900 nice shirt how can you say no look at how nice that shirt is it's a really nice shirt it's a beautiful

06:45:02.940 shirt in fact i think you took that photo uh in the whatever studio and i i think that was a good

06:45:10.060 call great lighting in here now i want to say just one thing i want to say one thing 20 tts if you want

06:45:19.260 to continue the roast i don't think uh i don't think we got to everybody who wanted to say one last thing

06:45:26.780 so go ahead you know didn't you have something you had a question you had a question right it was

06:45:33.980 about the the dressing how they dressed why do you come like your instagram titties are out but here

06:45:41.580 you're wearing what what's that what's that show the the the show where the duck hunter duck dynasty

06:45:48.940 this chick's dressed like from duck dynasty this is actually um not my hoodie it was the guy you

06:45:54.620 fuck today or what no we didn't do that oh sorry a little pegging action or what no wait you stole

06:46:01.500 wait you stole a guy's hoodie no he gave it to me oh that's he's like wait that's him asserting his

06:46:07.580 dominance he's like you go on that podcast and you wear this shit it's so natural right i like it

06:46:14.540 i like it i mean you don't have to like it that's fine what you got for us alex go ahead tell us your

06:46:21.340 soviet ramblings tell us your communist shit go ahead let's go america go ahead okay so i just

06:46:30.140 wanted to come back it doesn't matter what you think oh i'm joking go ahead i don't know i don't

06:46:36.940 think you're joking but um so um actually andrew earlier at the podcast you've you've mentioned my

06:46:43.900 open relationship and i didn't get to answer and i'm not an open relationship by the way

06:46:49.500 um we if we meet somebody else it would be a discussion but we would not pursue anything unless

06:46:57.980 we were both interested that's for one however that has not happened yet and i don't see it

06:47:03.260 realistically happening and i personally do not want anybody so it's not an open relationship and

06:47:09.260 just like every single thing in life it's a discussion also another party the last time i was on here

06:47:15.420 vector donated 20 dollars bear lady is the reason you are so fond of bears is because you imagine all

06:47:22.380 of them with top hats and monocles who bow to you upon meeting you they would rather walk you into

06:47:28.060 their den exactly gmd gym donated twenty dollars i missed the first half of the show i was watching

06:47:36.380 our future vice president spank a 60 year old man child brixton stop i love the accent it was very

06:47:44.060 natural some people don't like it maybe i'll i'll do a little poll continue on um so and on top of

06:47:50.700 that the last time um i was on here like you presented your thoughts on how you viewed my

06:47:56.860 relationship and um there's just a couple of things that i wanted to like to mention and that's

06:48:02.540 specifically um if okay so you overall based on the comments like you didn't personally say it but

06:48:09.580 based on the comments you basically presented me as a gold digger who was saved from working

06:48:15.020 multiple jobs and getting like a house in return um after my companion dies however that is not at

06:48:23.260 all what has happened and the only thing that he has saved me from is um pointing me in the direction

06:48:30.940 to where i take my own health more personally so that i chose to quit the jobs that i did have

06:48:37.580 and on top of that when he does pass away the house itself um while it cannot be sold it will go to

06:48:48.860 his sister and then after that it will go to his cousin and i have absolutely no say in the trust in

06:48:56.700 any of the financial matters are you gonna be living in it i'm sorry are you gonna be living in it i'm going

06:49:03.020 to be living there for a little bit until i figure out where i would want to go next and that is because

06:49:09.260 i care for his sister and i care for his for his um oh my god who the hell i'm sorry i didn't i do not

06:49:17.820 i do not like to be painted as a gold digger because if i was i would have married the multiple other men

06:49:24.060 who have offered me marriage and have offered me actual that's fair enough let me ask you uh just real

06:49:30.060 quick in regards to the to the first um so me i consider um and i think most rational people or

06:49:37.900 reasonable people would consider that of people who are willing to add additional sexual partners

06:49:44.460 to the relationship are in an open relationship now how open or how closed it is that could be debated

06:49:51.820 right that's all based around comfort zones but i consider it to be an open relationship if that's even

06:49:57.980 discussed so for instance nobody's going to be banging mrs wilson ever except mr wilson right

06:50:04.860 that's the way it's always going to be uh and there's never going to be an exception to that rule

06:50:10.380 ever never in a million years right would i ever accept that no matter who suggested it uh it would

06:50:16.300 be grounds for divorce in my opinion if it was even suggested i consider that to be an opening of the

06:50:22.380 relationship peanut butter nipples donated twenty dollars andrew does verbal combat have mobile

06:50:28.380 support my laptop sucks ladies they're a reason why one of the first things they teach navy seals in

06:50:35.500 buds is to listen i just want to point out very quickly to you sir that if you have five hundred

06:50:40.940 dollars to buy verbal combat you should likely buy the laptop first i'm just going to say right

06:50:46.380 good laptop josh donated twenty dollars my mattress is comfy so i went to the store to buy the same

06:50:52.940 one for the guest bedroom guests coming soon store number one it was discontinued but found a floor

06:50:59.980 model at store number two need to get sheets now is that relevant so yeah i would just say how how open or

06:51:11.500 closed a relationship is i think that that's up to interpretation because everybody has different

06:51:16.540 ground rules but i think if you were willing to add any partners into the relationship for sex with

06:51:22.380 either party that is an opening of the relationship i don't i don't see a way around that and i can i

06:51:29.100 respect your personal opinion i do not consider it an open relationship it's mr zero live donated 20

06:51:35.740 dollars brian your southern accent is so far off the point that it couldn't hit water if it fell out of

06:51:41.820 the boat hope everyone has safe travels home i wait i i think it's pretty i actually don't understand this

06:51:48.780 though if if you're adding an additional sexual partner to a relationship under any circumstances

06:51:55.820 how's that not opening up the relationship that's what that means to open the relationship is to add

06:52:01.820 additional sexual partners to the relationship because we're not adding anybody at all however

06:52:08.860 because he is dying um we have established that we are companions again we're not like boyfriend

06:52:16.540 girlfriend wife husband we are there for each other we're together almost 24 7. um but if the situation arises

06:52:26.540 where we were for some reason to meet somebody because of the situation we would not see it as

06:52:35.340 like immediate no because it's about pineapple underscore girl donated 19 dollars so andrew what

06:52:41.900 do you call a swinger is that an open relationship to you yeah you're opening up your relationship if

06:52:48.540 if you're in a relationship with somebody else and you begin to swing yeah you're opening up your

06:52:53.740 relationship that's what that means to open the relationship means to add additional people to

06:52:59.020 it for sex that's what that is thank you thank you i mean am i speaking spanish i mean does anybody

06:53:05.260 actually disagree with you i don't they start a biblioteca like that's i mean that's what that

06:53:12.540 means so when i say you're in an open relationship if you're willing to consider additional sexual partners

06:53:17.820 even to consider it to me that's i would consider that to be open just the degree to which it's open

06:53:24.540 um we could kind of dispute that perhaps but i i definitely think it would be open okay and i

06:53:31.980 personally do not want anybody nor am i looking for anybody nor if i've met anybody would even

06:53:38.220 or so far it hasn't happened but again to me but you'd be open to it right

06:53:42.860 at the moment i am personally not open to it he has brought it up i donated twenty dollars

06:53:50.140 my son asked me how many wives we are allowed to have i told him that we can only have one wife

06:53:56.060 here the law protects us that was beautiful that's great you're so interested it's like

06:54:06.540 yeah i mean that was actually a pretty clever joke right he's like protects us because multiple

06:54:11.260 wives would suck worse than having one wife right that's the joke i think it's i think it was clever

06:54:16.140 honestly i yeah i concur

06:54:26.220 can we do it again

06:54:31.020 aussie can you say the name no and then say it without the last two letters maybe that will work

06:54:37.660 also do you think pineapple belongs on pizza noah no no no did i say it no no no no no no no i got

06:55:04.620 it i got it i got it i got it i got it no no no no no you're just saying no it's all it's always

06:55:10.860 with an r no go no yeah there's still an r what about with the spanish accent no no yeah

06:55:21.500 still an r yep still an r you just can't get away from that r no i can yeah no you can't i know

06:55:33.580 i got it right so i swear we actually sound the same say cleo cleo

06:55:38.940 clear we said the same thing cleo clear clear clear i don't say clear i said clear okay but like okay

06:55:50.620 i say no cleo no cleo god that should be on tiktok with the water water say no clear the water oh no

06:56:01.260 cleo the cleo the condensation how do you say oil oil condensation sounds perfect but you can't

06:56:08.940 say no condensation that's it right yeah that's fine condensation sounds perfect but the no is nar

06:56:15.020 every time no no it's not i think you're just like paying attention to every letter that i'm saying

06:56:21.100 i think i think i say fine guys guys i'm trying to figure out what else i'm going to say that's

06:56:30.780 going to be weird while brain is i don't know i don't know i do know that i'm going to do like a

06:56:34.780 20 minute bit of jake rattlesnake just saying no and i'm just going to put it on a loop because he

06:56:41.740 does the same no no no no no no that was pretty good can we go i'm not the second time we sound

06:56:51.100 the same i'm straight up no no i'm sorry we can you say uh can you say one thing for me can you say

06:56:58.620 rob nor rob nor now say rob donated twenty dollars can the aussie say chin chin yeah now say now hang

06:57:09.740 on now say rob no rob no rob no i don't get it i said the same thing we sound literally the exact same

06:57:21.340 rob no rob nor now rob nor right rob nor nor well okay you hyper emphasize the r there yeah because rob

06:57:32.300 nor right nor nor now say rob no rob no it's still it's still pretty good it's just not as

06:57:42.780 hyper emphasized but it's closer it's closer i'm getting the w boys thank you chin no i'm getting

06:57:50.300 the w boys hold on i'm gonna get the w he's locking in yo i got the w let's go boys

06:57:58.060 yo chat chat fucking amp me up boys i got the i'm gonna get the fucking w here hold on

06:58:03.180 it's gonna be an l brian don't don't jinx it i'm so close hold on be a fucking l bro i can see it from

06:58:08.860 here it's gonna be now how's this an l look at how set up this you'll see you're gonna see oh you you

06:58:13.580 can see 10 moves ahead andrew and fucking solitaire yes hold on hold on wait here comes the l watch this

06:58:21.900 dude look at that fucking 200 iq 200 fucking iq i took it back here i put it there opens it up boom

06:58:29.340 boom done hold on wait wait no dude there's no way hold on hold your horsies hold poor brian i got this

06:58:43.260 bro oh it's it's a dub it's a w w hold on wait sorry guys hold on uh that's a w hold on

06:58:51.740 wait oh wait you're done dude don't say that andrew so the other ace meme oh wait hold on

06:58:59.820 there's only one card hidden wait hold on wait fuck wait wait wait wait wait wait

06:59:06.780 oh no that is airline i can't see i'm blind three i'm so thankful that i got to read because

06:59:14.140 i can't say i don't have my glasses on either i would have been done for oh shit let's go boys

06:59:20.540 oh it's it's a w hold on check this out boys

06:59:25.500 wait we just oh did i fuck it up hold on you fucked it up bro i didn't fuck it up hold on oh wait hold

06:59:30.940 on i actually might have fucked oh no wait yes oh don't oh my god it's over bro i told you i told you

06:59:40.060 holy and everyone was typing you up wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait so close

06:59:48.860 oh

06:59:49.260 oh no oh no oh no how could this have happened no no no no no dude are you fucking oh did you lose

07:00:06.620 oh no hold on hold on hold on i can't i can't believe that jerry was right

07:00:14.860 angel just knows he knows he knows

07:00:23.020 i feel like the only thing people took from me today is no

07:00:27.340 pretty much like they're gonna be like oh my god you're no and i'm gonna like it's not over yet

07:00:31.100 boys it's not over it no it's not no i got this dude i think i can i can uh hold on let me think

07:00:40.300 about this i'm making progress here so i gotta move the left column bro you gotta move the left

07:00:44.780 column wait what what left column what are you talking about i can't believe we're watching solitaire

07:00:50.060 hold on i'll make music

07:00:51.180 why are you doing why are you doing pirates of the caribbean is the music

07:01:00.220 do some hans zimmer do some gladiator music i don't know what gladiator is

07:01:06.060 you're like dun dun dun dun no now i got pirates of the caribbean in my head

07:01:11.020 you screwed it all up damn it no how could this have happened

07:01:14.620 no no no no no no that's an australian fail please do it more i want it to be stuck in

07:01:25.740 andrew's hat for forever oh man i think i'm in trouble this just keep going oh i don't know the

07:01:31.580 rest there there might be there could be a solution i'm just

07:01:44.620 if wait so i gotta free up the for the four this is such a fun dating podcast hold on i think i can

07:01:53.260 free up the four it's all about the cards you dealt wait okay so hold on check this out right so i free

07:02:00.540 up the wait

07:02:04.540 this or natural selection so if i it's great

07:02:11.660 um

07:02:14.220 i need to free up the six right

07:02:19.740 okay all right so how was everyone's night tonight did we have fun i blame it on andrew dude he was

07:02:25.420 distracting me i was like in the zone and he just kind of did you end up winning no i i have to

07:02:33.580 concede well he put the thoughts into your head that you're gonna lose so it's like you became

07:02:38.460 yeah he's spoken into existence yep all right last call 20 tts then we're gonna wrap up the show

07:02:43.980 any final thoughts from anybody else before i wrap up speak now forever hold your josh donated

07:02:48.620 twenty dollars a bit annoyed here andrew you don't have the right to say the things you said

07:02:54.140 tonight dot i went to an indian restaurant and an italian one found sheets for the guest bed

07:03:00.540 not at the restaurants

07:03:05.900 okay okay i got it okay okay got it got it it was kind of good may i just ask somebody like just in

07:03:17.500 general like i've just noticed that not many people have like jumped in and like just just

07:03:25.100 voice their opinions i'm just kind of curious what's oh that's like kind of like dating

07:03:32.780 okay okay i mean i mean it is a dating podcast so i guess that makes sense the women are really you

07:03:38.700 know what's weird is i see these tiktoks of these girls complaining about like they go on dates and

07:03:42.860 the guy doesn't say anything i'm like what really like he's not saying anything at all he's just like

07:03:50.700 quiet sits there or i just how would that work because you would just both be quiet yeah i mean

07:04:00.940 right i mean in this particular situation yeah because like nobody would be saying anything and

07:04:07.020 you'd be waiting for him to say let me ask you a question q if you showed up on a date and you didn't

07:04:12.540 say anything what the girl said like be able to actually have a conversation no i don't know what

07:04:23.100 we're talking about i'd like initiate pretty much everything do you feel fatigued from that

07:04:31.900 from her not saying anything i mean is she any conversation do you feel fatigue

07:04:36.860 uh when there's no response right yeah you do but you're still with her you still asked her to

07:04:43.660 be your girlfriend oh not the girl oh not that one no no not the girl that i'm currently but i'm

07:04:48.140 talking about like if i go out on a date in general and the girl is not talking or she's not receptive

07:04:52.940 to what i'm saying i'll just be like nah it's dead it's like well no not just energy not just if

07:04:59.100 she's if she's not responding obviously there's no conversation but

07:05:03.020 i'm saying like initiating a subject or something like you know what let's role play a date

07:05:10.060 right now okay are you asking me on a date no definitely not okay so um mean mean brian

07:05:19.260 mean i'm gonna go cry after this okay so uh i'm gonna role play it but i'm not gonna contribute to

07:05:26.540 the conversation okay the rosetta stone donated i'll pause it during the role play sad that the

07:05:35.180 russian can actually speak english better than the aussie save articles but hey what can you else can

07:05:41.660 you expect from a penile colony sorry meant penal colony how long have you been here i've been in

07:05:50.860 la for four months okay see i've i've i've lived here since 11 so it's like can you can you tell

07:05:56.700 everybody at the table how you guys lost the emu war we're not going to talk about the emu everyone

07:06:02.460 always asks me about it but just leave the emus alone we don't want to talk about it okay well you

07:06:08.300 have to leave someone about the kangaroos can you find the wikipedia i can't get over it okay just the

07:06:14.140 emus are scary all right you guys are scared of the spiders think about the other animals the kangaroos and

07:06:19.740 stuff well don't you have to watch out uh jake was telling me you gotta watch out for uh drop

07:06:23.980 drop bears yeah drop bears she doesn't know anything she doesn't know about the drop bears

07:06:33.580 did you guys know koalas but not the drop bear did you got wait what what about koalas did you guys

07:06:40.380 know koalas have um chlamydia yeah they do yeah all koalas have chlamydia i think it's the same

07:06:47.660 you gotta stop all those australian men from uh doing things to them oh my god

07:06:52.060 how do they all have can't they treat that chick there's no there's no treatment for koala chlamydia

07:07:02.700 no no they cure them all the time and then somehow it comes back isn't that interesting

07:07:07.340 because they all have no i think they just stuck there i think it's just stuck just stuck

07:07:15.180 yeah yeah because like if you're gonna keep getting rid of it like there's no point in like

07:07:21.100 getting rid of every time because yeah because they they would all have that so it's like you know

07:07:26.940 what's if they get rid of it they would just mix each other again word don't just the australians

07:07:33.900 right we're good we chill all right so yeah last thing uh let's do the let's do the role play

07:07:39.980 really quick okay we're on the date i'm not really saying anything what's your problem

07:07:49.420 so confrontational do you want to be here or what you're not supposed to be meta about it what do you

07:07:58.380 mean you're supposed to actually like okay you're supposed to actually attempt to have the conversation

07:08:03.340 oh okay so i'm just being a girl what's your favorite color oh my god

07:08:10.860 blue blue yeah like the sky should you be the guy and i'm the girl is that maybe like the sky or like

07:08:18.460 a tiffany blue i'll be the girl tiffany blue okay

07:08:28.220 you're the girl i'm the girl what's up baby

07:08:35.740 after you asked her for the color creepy i'm the boy now i'm the boy now creepy oh what's up baby

07:08:46.620 get offended brian

07:08:47.740 are you you like black or something i'm just asking you what's up oh you just put on an accent

07:08:56.700 that i found offensive oh are you not down for the cause are you are you are you am i still a girl

07:09:07.260 am i a boy i don't know i'm confused okay we're both confused yeah it's a lost cause and this is

07:09:13.100 why they were almost

07:09:15.180 what too many vintage car analogies this episode women are actually like world of warcraft npcs

07:09:23.100 the first time you root them is the best and longest lasting future crowd control last less time

07:09:29.100 bonadaddy donated twenty dollars please help me i can only wipe back to front so my balls are

07:09:37.980 always covered in shite oh boy all right thank you thank you but but hang on ball paladins also

07:09:43.900 forgets about the daily quest bluff is donated twenty dollars do you know how australian men find koalas

07:09:50.940 when they are high up in trees surprisingly satisfying

07:10:00.700 vector donated twenty dollars andrew you know what 95 theses are i saw your wife trashing poor

07:10:08.140 martin luther one podcast episode i'm just being silly and wanted to give you a roast appreciate how

07:10:15.820 you try to reason with people yeah thank you appreciate that now it's fine you can

07:10:21.340 you can roast me you have this perfectly good you know burrito guy over here though i just wanted

07:10:26.300 to point that out again burritos yeah yeah uh okay we're gonna wrap the show guys so a couple things

07:10:36.380 really quick uh let's just see so gg well played to the panel last call hit the like button please

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07:12:28.540 world of warcraft season of discovery he's playing a druid wait oh oh i almost don't want to

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07:13:12.460 incoming oh whatever what's up dude what is up yo tell him oh i don't know if they're watching

07:13:19.340 he's got to get rid of that i've been away so i haven't really seen uh oh let it play let it play

07:13:26.540 oh it glitched out oh what the frick i also glitched out on my end so okay that's fine

07:13:33.420 uh reload reload it why not streams i didn't usually i tune in for a little bit

07:13:40.220 what was what what was the uh topic of conversation today

07:13:43.900 okay fill me in he's canadian by the way how many how many cringe answers were there in today's uh

07:13:51.100 pops i'm so civil pops dude i'm a young lean 27 all right you can what was it what were some of the

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07:14:05.740 great andrew wilson oh sevens in the chat good night guys and we'll see you fried friend reminder

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Whatever Podcast - October 02, 2024

HATERSEXUAL？! Dating A Prisoner？! Ankle Monitor Dating？! Q! Andrew Wilson! E-GIRLS! ｜ Dating Talk #201

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