HEATED DEBATE Liberals vs. Conservatives vs. SHAMAN？! ｜ Dating Talk #89
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have two special guests, Carly and Lauren, join us to talk about their experiences in the dating world and how they got into the fitness and fitness industry. We also get into the controversial We Jesus meme, and talk about what it means to be a "weirdo."
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Nick, if you're able to bring it back to the whatever Instagram, you guys may be familiar with We Jesus meme.
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Nick, if you can pull up the We Jesus one, the one in the center there.
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If anybody knows We Jesus, his name is Blessed.
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He lives in Santa Barbara where we filmed this.
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If anybody knows Blessed, I want to interview him.
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Okay, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So, please, tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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I'm 19 years old, and I'm a fitness influencer.
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And I'm a student for nursing, but I'm currently on disability.
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Hi, my name is Lauren Roses, and I work at a brothel, and I'm also a musician.
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I'm a Turning Point USA contributor and a media personality.
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I do international strategy at a think tank, and I am a conservative influencer.
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That's all I'm going to say, because I feel like everyone already knows.
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Are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,
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How long have you, because I mean, that's a thing, I guess.
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How long have you been single, if you're single, if you're in a relationship, how long have
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you been in the relationship, and what's your longest relationship?
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We've only been together for a month, and this is the only relationship, like real relationship
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Real relationship, as opposed to like you've previously had some situationships.
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I mean, like, yeah, like situationships, like talking or whatever.
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And who initiated, like, did you both come to an agreement that you wanted to be boyfriend,
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We were friends for a year, and then he asked me out three times, and I said yes on the fourth
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I, um, he lived on the opposite side of the country, which didn't make any sense, but
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he's moving out here next week, so it seemed appropriate to, you know, maybe I could pursue
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Wait, okay, so you rejected him the first three times.
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Um, but the first time, it just didn't make sense.
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The other two times, I wanted to wait a little bit longer to be official, and then when we
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found out he was moving to the same city, I said yes.
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But you, initially, you friendzoned him, correct?
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It was, it was never like a complete friendzone.
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And by the way, just, sorry, repeat your age again.
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Yeah, um, I have been single for a year and a half.
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My longest relationship is six years, and, um, yeah, that's pretty much it, yeah, I'm single.
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Uh, it's, it's a little challenging to do it with the brothel, um, so, uh, yeah, currently,
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Uh, okay, so, here, I'll come back to the brothel thing, but first, I'm gonna just have
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everybody share their relationship status situation.
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I'm single, I've been single for three, four years, and my longest relationship was around
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So, your, your longest relationship was for three to four days.
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Um, so, it was official for three to four days, like?
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Yeah, he asked me to be his girlfriend, I said yes, and then I broke up with him four
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To keep it simple, I just realized that I didn't like him, to be honest.
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So, like, it was, was it a pity he asked you to be the, the, the girlfriend, and you,
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I mean, I said yes, we had only hung out a few times, and we had been talking over Snapchat,
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I mean, I was like 16, for like a month, and then he asked me out, and I said yes.
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I liked him at first, I barely really knew him, and then we hung out more, and I just
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Okay, um, and what's the, I guess that was your longest relationship, what's the longest
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So, maybe it wasn't boyfriend-girlfriend, but maybe it was, uh, friends with benefits,
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or, uh, it could have been situationship, what's the longest period of time?
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I would say a month, maybe the most, or the longest that I've talked to someone was two
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Two, the longest you've talked to someone, two months, okay.
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And so, you said you were, you've been single for four years, was it?
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Okay, so the three to four day thing was when you were, uh, 16, was this like a high school
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Um, I am in a relationship, and my longest relationship is five years.
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No, I've been in this relationship almost four years.
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I'm single, and my longest relationship has been six months, and I've been single for
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Uh, I just started seeing someone, so it's very new, but, um, my longest relationship
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Because I think when we were chatting on Instagram, like, coordinating to get you on the show,
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when we first reached out to you, you were in a relationship.
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So this is news to me that you're now in a relationship again.
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I'm a big believer in staying loyal since, like, the talking stage, so when I said, like,
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relationship, it was more so, like, talking stage.
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And, uh, did you say how long you've been seeing this current guy?
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This is my longest relationship currently, 11 months and, like, three days.
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Um, by the way, Nick, the kick isn't working, so if you can just stop it on kick.
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I've been doing that, gosh, since, well, after COVID.
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I, I was there 2018, but then I came back, uh, after COVID.
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And, I mean, even before you were working in SED, is there, like, a different word I can,
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What's a, like, is there a French word for brothel?
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I think there, I think there, I think there is.
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That's how you should introduce yourself to people.
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It's a little more vague, so they might think, oh, fancy.
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Um, so before your work in the bordello, were you doing that manner of work previously?
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And, uh, then, uh, before that, I was a dancer.
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I worked at Cheetahs, Spearmint Rhino, um, and then Deja Vu in San Diego.
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Uh, and then, you know, the OnlyFans, and I did Playboy, uh, TV.
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Is there a lot of demand for, there must, I assume there must be for, like, you currently
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It became harder for me to do it, um, after that.
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So, I think my energy levels, so I try to just do more of, like, a self-care one where
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it's, like, if people, I send free photographs every day, and if people want to send a tip,
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then they do it, and I'll just send it, you know, pictures and stuff.
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Um, before it was a little more detailed, and stuff like that.
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Ooh, I would say, gosh, since I was 22 years old.
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Do you know how many, like, have you kept count of how many, um, what's the term, Johns
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Oh, yeah, but I, you know, I didn't keep count.
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I don't know the estimate of that, but you know what?
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I do remember the ones where I was disappointed that they were, like, they fantasized about
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me before they met me, and the ones I remember, it was eight, and they said, you did not live
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up to my fantasy, and I said, wow, like, I remember those years.
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And it feels a little bad, because you're like, man, I gave, I gave, I gave all myself.
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I'm going to be going to an international school.
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Nick, can you lower it to, like, 90 or something?
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I go to the International School of Temple Arts, and they have a sacred sexuality course,
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And I believe that when I really connect with someone, I really, you know, in that way,
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So it does hurt me if, like, emotionally, if, you know, I hear something like that, because
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it's like, man, I feel like I gave all myself, and that, yeah.
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I wish, but I'm, I, I'm going to the, uh, International, uh...
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Like, are you a classic Andy, or, like, because you said you're a shaman, so...
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I, I did play Grand Theft Auto when I was younger.
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Wait, so you're, but are you, do you get a sex shaman certification?
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In ISTA schools, it's $2,500 for a week of the courses, and you can go there, and you
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They talk about your traumas and everything, and they kind of release...
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Like, is, like, shamanism, there's typically, like, magic involved.
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Um, is there, like, good magic and then dark magic?
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They don't teach that at the certification course, though.
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That's, um, so, did, at any point, did you ever have a PINP?
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It, you know, it was, uh, when I was really young and I didn't really understand the industry.
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Um, I believe that I'm glad that I found the holistic, uh, route, um, with the sexual shamanism.
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And I'm glad that I did find the legal brothels because that just wasn't, that wasn't my style.
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I think I was doing it in survival mode and now I'm doing it to thrive.
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And I, I really do it to try to make people feel good and to make myself feel good.
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Yo, Brian, here is the donation I was mentioning about from Instagram.
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I am never up when you were streaming, but I wanted to contribute something for your work.
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I like watching in part as it reminds me of my younger years in the dating world.
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He, uh, he's pre-submitted this, uh, prior to the, uh, show.
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So, really, thank you, really appreciate it, man.
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Really appreciate all the patronage, uh, your legend.
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Yeah, I, I genuinely don't know what it is, so I'm just, like, kind of questioning, yeah.
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They have, uh, many of them, and they're legal, and you can go there to get, uh, uh, treated.
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And you go there, and, you know, yeah, they, they pay.
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It's kind of like a adult film star, but no camera.
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Only people can film films if they want for a certain, uh, you know, amount.
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Do you live on the property of it, or is it, like, off-site?
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Uh, it's on the property, but, uh, we don't live there, but we do tours.
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So, they call them tours where we come in for a couple weeks.
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Sometimes girls stay a month, but then they take off back home and, and go back.
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I also, I wanted to say, I'm really proud of you for getting away from that PIMP stuff.
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I also danced in Vegas for seven years, and I have friends who are still, like, stuck
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in that so many years later, so congratulations for, like, finally getting out of that.
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Like, what if he was, like, a good PIMP, though?
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Um, I think that, uh, there's, there's the time where, I think I was in survival mode
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where, so I, I had originally worked a life insurance company, so I did have a job before.
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I worked at McDonald's for five years before that, um, but then I did life insurance, and
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then I did dancing, um, that was cool, but I think what happened was, is when the, when
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you're an actor and your show ends, you get, like, this, you know, you get in a spiral.
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I, the show ended at Playboy, and I was upset, and so I, I don't know.
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Maybe it was depression or something, but I, I ended up connecting with someone, and I ended
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up doing these extracurricular things outside of the club, and one thing ended not well,
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and after that, I had a good friend, she is an adult film star, and she helped me, and
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she took me, um, her name's Paisley Porter, by the way, um, she, um, she, uh, showed me
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the Bordello in Nevada, and it really helped my life, like, so much.
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I feel like the question is, like, what made you start sex work?
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Yeah, like, how, why did you get into sex work?
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Gotcha, I, I think that I was always very conservative growing up, and our sexuality,
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my, my mother, she didn't really allow us to be feminine, really, we had to kind of
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just wear clothes that were not feminine, really, and, uh, if we showed, like, a little
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skin or something, we grew up real conservative, like, I would door knock, I was a, uh, by, like,
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a Baptist, and we would go to doors when we were kids and knock and try to convert people,
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and so I would do that, and, uh, I would say that years of that, um, it just, it was
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the experimental, I was like, wow, I could be sexy now, like, what, guys think I'm hot?
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Like, I'm used to wearing a suit, a lot of people used to think I was a lesbian, or they
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used to think that, uh, because I wouldn't, I would dress in a suit every day, and I just
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would wear clothes that covered all of my body, and it was neat exploring that, yeah.
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Would you consider yourself still, like, religious? Like, do you feel like the beliefs that you
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grew up with are still kind of, like, with you?
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I think they've morphed, but I definitely think that they're, there's still an element
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Uh, I noticed you had, I don't know if it's, you have a Nirvana tattoo on your, somewhere?
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I did, I actually covered it up with, oh, it's gone, okay.
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I actually covered it up with a flower, but I did, it was for the band, I like rock and roll.
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Kurt Cobain walks into the brothel, but he's out of money.
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Okay, Heath Ledger, you serve us for free, but not, not Kurt Cobain.
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Oh, no, but not even Heath Ledger, Heath Ledger as the Joker.
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Because the Heath Ledger Joker changed my life.
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I wrote a song about him, but it's coming out next year, but just his presence, I think
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I was going through a real tough time in life, and just his presence, just his, I watched
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The Dark Knight, like, over 200 times, and I would just watch it, and I'd just.
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And it changed, it just made me feel strong watching his character, and it just, I don't
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know, I feel like that's, like, my strong character, if that makes any sort of sense.
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All right, okay, interesting, interesting, okay, so let's just go touch on a few other
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people here, so, boyfriend one month, single, single, single, relationship, single, relationship,
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So, just as a point of clarification for those of you who are single, what's that really
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Because, like, there's a, come on, guys, there's a guy in the picture, for those of you who
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are single, come on, there's a guy in the picture, right?
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Like, there's a guy you're texting, maybe you guys, on a Thursday at 11 p.m., you know?
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I mean, there's people I find attractive, but I'm not talking to anyone, no.
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Um, yeah, I guess, but I don't really want to comment on that too much.
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Yeah, so, I, I guess, on background, I was living in Vegas for, like, seven years, and
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then I recently moved back to my hometown because of, I had some surgeries.
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And so, I have a thing for, like, guys in my hometown, so I totally am, like, hooking
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But, it's, uh, not serious, and I don't really want it to be serious because I don't want
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I've literally only seen the guys in my hometown.
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Actually, I tend to bring them with me to Vegas.
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I've only had two serious relationships, and they're both from my hometown.
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Wait, so, okay, and just really quick on the, I don't want to linger too long on the
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brothel stuff, but maybe we'll touch back on it later.
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Given the type of work you do, you said you are single.
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You said you've been single for, what, three years now?
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I suspect that's pretty hard to date when you're prostituting.
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It's difficult, because you're gone for prolonged periods of time, the emotional connections,
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and it just, it can be real complicated for someone to understand, and sometimes it's
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just better to be like, all right, maybe I'll just, this is that chapter of my life, and
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Do you kind of want to be, like, throughout your life, maybe more like lone wolf, or would
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you like one day to find a long-term partner, maybe get married, maybe have kids?
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So, I can, I don't have the ability to have children, but I've always been, I've always
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And even though I have worked in the bordellos, it's so funny, like, little kids are on the
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age of, I don't really dress provocatively, like, when I go out, like, this is something
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special, like, but they always come up to me, and they grab, and they go, ah, like, they
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So, I'm like, oh, wow, like, I would love to entertain families one day.
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In, like, Las Vegas, I just, I have to figure out how, but I think that I would dedicate
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my life to that, and if someone was okay with me doing that, then I would definitely be in
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When you say dedicate your life, do you mean to your partner, or to your current work?
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I, I want to dedicate my life to entertainment, and then, but, but not fully adult entertainment.
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Eventually, I would love to entertain families, like, kind of grow beyond that.
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What do you mean, when, what do you mean entertain families?
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I would love to put on a show one day, and make it.
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I'm just trying to think, what, like, for birthday parties, right?
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Yes, and I would love to do, like, a really relaxing show.
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I feel like we live in such an overstimulated world, like, I would love to make a show where
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families could go and just relax, and that's something, my, one of my dreams that I'm obsessed
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Okay, so, but do you potentially see yourself having, like, a forever,
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partner, long-term relationship, marriage, that sort of thing, or?
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I mean, but it seems like you're aware that your current means of employment has been
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a hindrance to your ability to find, because it sounds like from your own self-acknowledgement,
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Would you be willing to stop that work if a good guy came along?
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I just think that as long as my entertainment dreams could be supported, because that's
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something real big to me, and I know they're expensive, because it's expensive doing music
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So, if that was supported, then yes, then I, yeah.
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How do you see yourself, I guess, like, maintaining, like, a long-lasting, healthy marriage when
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you're having sexual and emotional connections with so many other people?
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I think that I would probably want to make sure that that person was okay with it.
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I would make sure that I continue to go to these spirituals.
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So, you go up in levels with these shamanistic retreats.
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You can go to, like, Costa Rica, you can work your way up.
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So, I would always keep it more spiritual, I feel, like, that's my comfort zone.
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If I start going out of that, it starts to become a little hollow for me, so, in my
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own opinion, but I really love that sexual healing industry.
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I feel like it did heal a part of myself, and I hopefully heal others, too, if I, you
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I only ask because I feel like in a marriage, like, it's more than just, like, spiritual
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There's, like, a lot of things to, like, take into consideration.
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So, I guess my question is more so, like, how do you, like, blur those lines, kind of,
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I think it would need to be okay with the partner.
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I'd need to make sure, say, how do you feel about me doing that?
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And they would already know, like, my story and that.
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And so, I would just be like, if that's okay with you, cool.
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But if it's not, then I totally understand you could leave any time you need to, and I
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I mean, okay, I'll probably have some hurt feelings, but I want them to be happy, too.
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How many days a week do you work at the Bordello?
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So, that is a very interesting question that I'm glad that you asked.
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Sometimes I feel like after I see some people that are hurting a lot, I can't work for, like,
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And because I feel their emotions, like, in me.
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Sometimes I get real angry and worked up over nothing.
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And I know in the spirituality classes, they teach that that's an emotional transfer of that
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And so, sometimes it wipes you out, and sometimes it doesn't.
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I would say I try to space things out probably a couple days a week there.
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I try my hardest to only see one because I don't like to mix energies.
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But for my sexual healing, I do not charge extra for that.
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That it can be in the basic, you know, sessions.
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Because I feel like if I'm charging extra for it, it's not very spiritual.
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So, so I, I feel like, hey, if that, they come into me for that, I'm gonna give them
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So that, when, when we bond with another human, especially like through, through, uh, kissing
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or through intercourse, um, I just didn't know what to say.
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I feel like I try to take on those emotions that that person has because I want to, like,
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Um, sometimes I feel like that's when I get wiped out if I, you know, if I feel like,
00:32:16.300
I don't think we've had, like, a, someone who's worked in a board.
00:32:21.500
Um, since you like to pursue, I guess, like, intercourse in a, uh, spiritual way, I would
00:32:28.120
say it's very much so also, like, emotional, correct?
00:32:31.340
Do you ever feel emotionally tied to the people that?
00:32:35.560
Like, in a very strong way, where you feel like you want to be with them, or is it kind
00:32:40.260
of just, like, you know it's your job in a way?
00:32:42.660
I can kind of feel when they're having a bad day.
00:32:44.740
And even when they're not there, like, I can feel it.
00:32:47.200
Like, I'm like, that person might be having a hard time.
00:32:52.180
Do you ever, like, I guess when I mean, like, emotional, like.
00:32:59.120
In a relationship type of emotional way, though.
00:33:01.600
Like, do you ever see that with some of the people that you come across?
00:33:04.820
Like, do you ever feel a certain way towards them?
00:33:09.840
Like, I'm like, wow, like, I respect this person as a human being, and they found me,
00:33:17.440
Also, do, like, you work, I'm sure you work with, like, other women as well doing that.
00:33:24.120
Or is it just kind of you who does it spiritually?
00:33:35.200
We're going to switch topics here a little bit.
00:33:37.860
So, have any of you ever dated or hooked up with someone who is famous?
00:33:51.320
So, I mean, the first tier would be, like, anything in, like, more traditional media.
00:33:59.280
And then the next tier would be, like, content, internet, YouTuber.
00:34:03.580
Like, that's kind of a, actually, I think it goes like this.
00:34:06.760
So, you have, I think you have athlete, musician, actor.
00:34:10.580
And then maybe stand-up comedian, ventriloquist, and then YouTuber, content creator down here.
00:34:24.140
My boyfriend's a YouTuber, but I don't know if it would qualify as, I don't know.
00:34:50.520
Well, you two are, would you consider yourself bodybuilders, like, fitness?
00:35:47.780
I'm literally about to get attacked for being too masculine.
00:35:53.920
Like, do you consider yourself to be, I mean, you're physically fit, but like in terms of
00:35:58.100
your personality or your temperament, do you consider yourself a bit more masculine or
00:36:03.700
I think naturally considering our job, we definitely feel masculine in the gym because lifting weight
00:36:12.600
Okay, and I, I mean, like, I would consider myself a girly girl, but obviously in the
00:36:25.300
You don't want to be like more dominant in the relationship?
00:36:28.860
Okay, so like you don't want to like peg a dude and like type of shit?
00:36:34.220
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:36:38.240
In my relationship, I would not want to peg my boyfriend.
00:36:48.000
So, okay, you're dating a kind of like content creator.
00:37:03.320
Have you ever dated someone noteworthy, famous?
00:37:07.680
I dated a famous like million slash billionaire.
00:37:23.340
I know, but now I'm kind of scared because, I mean, I'm willing to tell the stories, but
00:37:27.420
he is a million slash billionaire, so I don't want him to come after me.
00:37:30.920
Million slash, is he a billionaire or a millionaire?
00:37:33.720
I think him as himself is a millionaire, but I think his family is a billionaire.
00:37:39.260
So, wait, you said here you were in an open relationship for six years.
00:37:47.280
Oh, but when I, when I, oh, no, okay, yeah, you did say six years, your first boyfriend.
00:37:50.940
Was that with said person, said millionaire guy?
00:37:55.100
Do you want to say, I mean, you don't, you don't have to, you don't have to, but.
00:38:04.600
You said you had some crazy stories or do you not want to even share those?
00:38:23.360
He owns, he used to own a basketball team and he opened a hotel in Las Vegas.
00:38:30.540
Well, I think you've just given enough information for the chat to attempt to deduce who it is.
00:38:41.580
Goddamn, I want to eat eggs and steak off the maps as to chat.
00:38:46.480
His convictions and morals were given an easy test and failed.
00:39:04.320
That's what, she's not supposed to have abs right now because she's on a bowl.
00:39:35.120
So Valdive is, I guess he's asking if, if a boyfriend you were dating requested to
00:39:43.520
eat food off of your stomach with, not like, not like for sexual, like a sexual thing
00:39:49.160
is just like, he just like, wanted, would you be down or?
00:40:09.560
What if the eggs are, like, they're not, does it depend, like, if they're scrambled versus?
00:40:26.660
Yeah, that would actually probably be the best option.
00:40:31.020
So Valdive, I've put in a good word, so let's see what, I tried.
00:40:47.380
Um, he would, like, like, I never slept with him ever.
00:40:53.340
That was, like, he wasn't, he couldn't even, like, perform in that way.
00:41:15.620
Any, any other people besides this, uh, person?
00:41:18.540
Um, no, not notably, I mean, yeah, no, not, not, like, in a serious way.
00:41:24.840
I mean, I, like, met celebrities at the strip club and whatnot and, like, danced for them,
00:41:34.780
But there was a private event in Las Vegas that I worked at.
00:41:39.400
When you say you worked at, you provided your services of an adult nature?
00:41:49.920
And there was a lot of, um, I guess, poker players, NFL, and, uh, people on TV currently.
00:42:00.520
Maybe, maybe instead of, obviously, don't say a name, but, like, you can maybe tell us
00:42:04.100
the professional athlete, rock musician, actor.
00:42:39.380
I tried to convince her for a little bit because I thought it'd be cool, but no.
00:43:02.960
I just don't see myself being in a relationship right now, so.
00:43:13.880
Do you, so you're dating also a fitness content creator.
00:43:26.000
Well, I interrupted you, but I was going to ask, is it, like, what do you guys, hold on.
00:43:34.560
FYI, Tren was intentionally developed to promote androgen and gain muscle mass in cattle, never
00:43:43.700
Ladies, you're all tense, but my boobala is a 15 tenths.
00:43:53.800
And he actually did Tren for a moment, and it was not a good experience for anyone.
00:44:18.920
So what I was going to ask you is, is it kind of, like, cringe when you see couples working
00:44:23.240
out together, or is it, like, neutral, don't care?
00:44:28.400
We, luckily, have a private gym, so we don't really have to worry about other people being
00:44:36.740
We, the company we're sponsored by has a private gym just for athletes, so there's
00:44:46.280
But there are a lot of couples who go and just borderline, like, you know, in the gym.
00:44:58.620
Have you ever seen some weird, like, they're, like, he's body squatting, body weight squatting
00:45:07.280
That's, that's definitely, especially among fitness influencers, like, a big, like, click
00:45:12.000
bait thing, like, benching a chick or squatting a chick or, like, not to call out Bradley
00:45:20.620
A lot of his content is, like, benching chicks, squatting chicks.
00:45:24.200
Wait, and what's the company you guys are sponsored by?
00:45:29.720
Are you guys also, do you have other sponsors, like, supplements or...
00:45:41.640
You guys have access to a private gym, rock and roll.
00:45:51.520
So, no, because I was in a five-year relationship, and then I was single for, like, a few months,
00:45:59.480
So, yeah, but I do get a lot of, well, now you can buy a blue checkmark, but before you
00:46:05.980
could buy it, I always had blue checkmarks, like, constantly, but I was just always in
00:46:16.740
Obviously, now blue checkmarks, you can buy them, but in the past, usually indicated someone
00:46:21.720
who typically, like, I don't know, musician, athlete, actor, whatever it may be, music producer.
00:46:29.600
So, I do actually want to go around again, but I'll have everyone finish off on this question
00:46:37.080
My last relationship, he was an actor when he was younger, but we didn't do anything saving
00:46:51.000
He used to be in Disney when he was a kid, but that's all I'll share.
00:47:13.980
I mean, I've definitely been, like, hit up by, like, people.
00:47:22.020
Because it goes down in the DMs in the conservative sphere, I guess?
00:47:25.860
I mean, I've never entertained it, to be honest.
00:47:28.300
I mean, it's kind of like a mix between, you know, football players, actors, musicians,
00:47:32.420
and, like, media personalities, I guess, news hosts.
00:47:35.720
So you get DMed, but just you've never actually dated, been in a relationship with anyone?
00:47:43.100
I'll go around the table on, like, who's actually slid into DMs and stuff.
00:47:51.360
Actually, before we do that, let me do a couple chats here.
00:48:21.440
It was sent a while ago, so maybe I'm not sure.
00:48:30.200
It's a $69 donation because, because, yeah, okay.
00:48:35.160
Have I ever, I did have one girl, never, I don't think I've dated anyone.
00:48:53.100
This was a long, long, years and years ago, but only recently, like, I had a girl with,
00:49:06.260
I had a girl with, like, 10 million followers sliding to my DMs, but it was blue check mark,
00:49:20.620
But besides that, no, I date civilians, I guess.
00:49:37.460
However, this sexual perversion and witchcraft is directly against the word of God.
00:49:42.000
Also, will that gentleman, Chase, be back on the show soon?
00:49:51.940
Not sure what the situation is on that, but we actually, we were texting, it was either
00:50:09.300
If I had to pick a female companion for the zombie apocalypse, it's Ariel, hands down.
00:50:15.020
She's like a Latin Sarah Connor, except way hotter and jacked.
00:50:33.660
And then we have, no, okay, we're all caught up.
00:50:37.080
So, okay, maybe you haven't dated someone who's famous, but have you gotten a bunch of
00:50:44.040
So, any athletes, any musicians, maybe you've talked to them, maybe you didn't even respond.
00:50:59.920
I mean, I think every chick has, I think it's kind of shitty to name drop, so I'm not going
00:51:10.900
Boobala, you're engaged to an actor who stars in a World War II movie on Amazon Prime.
00:51:17.960
Did you forget about the first night we hung out?
00:51:26.860
Yeah, he is an actor, and he does have a movie out, actually.
00:51:33.480
And yeah, the first night we hung out, we watched his movie, and he was really good.
00:51:38.020
So, I was like, okay, we can pursue things further.
00:51:40.920
I was like, this is going to be just terrible if he's not good, and then it's going to be
00:51:47.100
Wait, so just to be clear, the first time ever hanging out with him?
00:51:53.180
He was like, did he tell you he was in it before?
00:51:56.240
He just popped it in, and popped it on, and was like, and then you saw him?
00:52:00.980
We met on a film set, because we're both actually also do acting as well, but we were actually
00:52:06.980
working behind the scenes for a mutual friends film, and so it kind of just made sense.
00:52:11.940
But we met, and then we were texting for a week, and then he came into the bar that I
00:52:16.420
worked at at the time, and he was like, oh, I was just in this movie, and I was like,
00:52:22.480
And then that's whenever I was like, oh, no, I do actually relate it.
00:52:27.840
But yeah, I was just like, oh, man, I really like this guy.
00:52:31.420
Like, I really hope he's good, because I was just going to suck, but he is good, so.
00:52:42.020
There were rappers, athletes, but this is like oddly specific.
00:52:50.400
It's like a super high-end charter school for athletes, and it's in my hometown.
00:52:57.840
So there were a lot of athletes, like an abnormal amount of athletes that hit me up,
00:53:04.200
Yeah, I feel like it's weird just because, I don't know.
00:53:07.840
Yeah, it was an odd spot for that place to be, but.
00:53:19.760
I don't know if he's ever talked to you about this, but does he ever, or maybe prior to
00:53:27.380
dating you, or even while dating you, does he get a lot of girls DMing him?
00:53:34.380
I feel like every girl will be like scrolling through TikTok together or something, and
00:53:38.120
he'll be like, oh yeah, she hit me up, she hit me up, she hit me up, and I'm like, oh
00:53:42.220
You think he's saying, is he doing that like to kind of make you jealous, or just, it's
00:53:46.920
I don't think it's a malicious intent, I don't think, yeah.
00:53:52.120
I think he tells me, because it's like, girls who are, I mean, obviously some of them are
00:53:57.240
actually trying to be friendly, but you know, you never know.
00:54:05.400
Well no, you don't have to drop names, but just like, you get in, did you get a lot of
00:54:14.920
Mostly athletes, but this was like years ago, like when I was still stripping, and I
00:54:19.380
had, I had like 40k on Instagram back then, I'm not, not on that anymore.
00:54:27.160
I mean, but don't you, wait, don't you still do OF?
00:54:39.100
I mean, I, I have an OF that's still there, and I still get subscriptions every here and
00:54:44.120
there, and that's pretty much as big as it goes.
00:54:50.020
Um, for me, I've gotten DMs, and those are neat, uh, because some of them are musicians
00:54:58.440
Uh, they're like, oh, I've heard your music, and I'm like, like, uh, Mitchie Slick actually
00:55:02.260
was like, oh, I heard it, and we never did anything, but he was like, oh, I heard it,
00:55:17.340
Well, yeah, blue check marks, but there's not anyone that I would specifically think
00:55:23.460
about and be like, oh, yeah, they're like a celebrity or anything like that.
00:55:27.840
Yeah, there was one rapper that I would get comments about being like, oh, so-and-so follows
00:55:37.880
It was Zillakami, but he never DMed me, and, um, I told-
00:55:53.140
Yeah, anyways, I didn't know who he was, and I told Carly, and she was like, what?
00:56:01.420
I feel like you think I'm hiding something every time I answer.
00:56:08.280
I mean, yeah, whenever I would get blue check, or when I do, it's usually just, like, basketball
00:56:13.680
players, football players, things like that, like, musicians, personalities, it's things
00:56:19.240
like that, and it's always, like, in my, whatever it is where, like, you don't follow them, and-
00:56:24.420
But there's just so many messages in there, and I honestly just don't, like, care that much,
00:56:28.340
so I never really pay attention, but yeah, there's definitely been quite a few, because
00:56:33.240
I have, like, relative, like, 100 plus K followers, so that's-
00:56:42.420
I mean, there's occasional people sliding in the DMs, but I feel like every girl deals
00:56:45.660
with that, and I just ignore most of them, like, don't initiate conversation, because
00:56:54.480
I mean, I feel like I do get, like, a lot, but I also really don't entertain a lot of
00:56:59.480
I'm not going to name drop, but I would say maybe about 80% of the DMs that I receive that
00:57:03.880
are from blue check marks are from men with families, and are, like, full-blown marriages.
00:57:18.840
But maybe, but, like, you're a political commentator, so is it, like, when you say
00:57:22.900
they're DMing you, are they just, like, saying, oh, I like your content, or is it clear that
00:57:26.420
they're, like, oh, you're hot, like, romantically interested type shit?
00:57:30.980
No, there are times where, like, I'm able to, like, decipher, kind of, when it comes through,
00:57:34.940
and a lot of them are message requests when they come through, like, able to see, like,
00:57:38.020
what they're saying, and so a lot of times, like, I'm able to, like, decipher, like,
00:57:42.080
okay, this is clearly, like, work-related, and you're clearly 47 years old with a full-blown
00:57:47.980
family, and you're messaging me for one reason and one reason only, so.
00:58:01.420
We've had a lot of girls on the panel say, oh, yeah.
00:58:03.800
And I think some of you are, like, maybe a little more out there in the sense that you guys
00:58:07.340
are content creators, and you're making content, so some of you have pretty decent followings,
00:58:12.080
but we've had some girls on the show who are college students, 1,000 Instagram followers,
00:58:18.140
and they're, like, yep, NFL player DMing me, NBA player DMing me, and it's just interesting
00:58:23.520
because I was thinking about the reverse, and, like, there's not, like, famous female athletes,
00:58:28.860
like, Taylor Swift isn't DMing some, like, 19-year-old college dude the same way Drake
00:58:34.560
is, like, you know, probably fucking sliding into some, like, 19-year-old baddies fucking DM,
00:58:40.060
so it's pretty interesting, like, the difference there.
00:58:44.480
Which I think, like, dating culture has been completely distorted by social media,
00:58:48.380
because if you look at it, women, we are constantly getting messages.
00:58:53.600
And just see how detrimental, I mean, social media is not only psychologically,
00:58:57.960
just in general, but how it's impacted dating culture specifically.
00:59:07.100
When did you stop, like, sex work, or, like, from social media?
00:59:12.300
I mean, sex work, I quit dancing because of COVID, and, you know, because I kind of had to.
00:59:17.860
But, yeah, the social media thing, I just realized how toxic it was,
00:59:22.280
and, I mean, I don't like to feel like I'm constantly being watched
00:59:27.480
and, like, feel, like, the obligation to, like, keep posting and posting and posting.
00:59:34.700
So you said that social media was, like, detrimental to you.
00:59:37.300
Do you feel that, like, any of, like, the dancing or, like, the sex work you did
00:59:43.720
No, honestly, I'm, like, super pro in-person sex work.
00:59:47.620
I'm really, and not, like, anti-OF, but, like, for me personally,
00:59:52.120
just, like, OnlyFans was, like, the most toxic kind of sex work I ever did.
01:00:00.920
No, I was going to say, did you ever feel fulfilled doing that type of work?
01:00:05.820
I think it depends for everyone, like, where your fulfillment comes from.
01:00:10.960
You know, if I find fulfillment in things of this world,
01:00:13.920
I think I'm going to be constantly let down and disappointed,
01:00:16.220
as opposed to, like, finding my fulfillment from, like, my religion
01:00:27.760
Do you consider yourself religious, show of hands?
01:00:34.040
Let's say, okay, is anyone here either Christian, Muslim, or Jewish?
01:00:44.200
I mean, I was raised, I was raised Jewish, but...
01:00:54.760
Yeah, I think it's just me and Isabella Christians.
01:00:58.060
Well, I, like, I go to Christian church now, but I was raised as, like,
01:01:08.720
Like, what made you, like, when did that kind of transition happen?
01:01:12.660
Well, I was kind of honestly back and forth, like, in my, I mean, I'm 26, but, like, my
01:01:16.800
younger 20s, I was kind of like, okay, I would consider myself Christian, and then I would
01:01:20.480
feel way more connected to, like, the universe and spirituality and, like, that kind of thing.
01:01:25.700
So, I think it just kind of happened over time, where I just kind of wasn't feeling connected
01:01:31.900
at all to, like, the Bible or, like, the church or, like, even really, like, the idea of Jesus.
01:01:45.960
Wait, just, okay, so to bring it back to you, you said when you were doing the work in person,
01:01:51.060
you found that to be more rewarding than doing OF, so, like, releasing content online.
01:01:57.560
When you say doing work in person, what do you mean?
01:02:02.220
Were you also engaging in the same type of work that she was doing?
01:02:10.500
I had, like, sugar daddies, but, like, not, but I never, like, slept with any of them.
01:02:18.440
Yeah, I never slept with any of them, and I've had sex with them.
01:02:22.780
I mean, you're not, I mean, I know that's a thing.
01:02:25.280
I know that's a thing, but it's, like, where's the sugar, you know?
01:02:34.540
So, I mean, I would hang out with them in person.
01:02:36.220
So, as a stripper in Las Vegas, like, it's pretty common to have a guy to come ask you,
01:02:40.940
like, oh, like, do you want to hang out, whatever.
01:02:42.720
And I would always make it, like, pretty clear, like, I'm not willing to, you know, do extra stuff,
01:02:48.640
but they would rather, like, pay you than pay the club.
01:02:52.400
So, I mean, I had this one guy, like, and he took me shopping, and we had a great time,
01:02:58.820
and he was just, like, super thrilled because he just liked that I was, like, showing him around Vegas.
01:03:06.520
Like, you know, and this didn't happen, like, all the time.
01:03:11.440
I'm not saying this is, like, a super common occurrence.
01:03:15.940
It's probably happened, like, three to four times in that whole time.
01:03:19.880
So, I'm not trying to, like, like, advocate or, like, promote any of that.
01:03:28.200
No, just, like, because I know that a lot of, like, sex workers will kind of, I think, lie and be like,
01:03:39.180
Like, yes, that does happen, but it's very rare.
01:03:44.720
I was going to ask, in what ways did you think your, like, in-person and, like, physical work was better than your online work?
01:03:52.560
Well, what I really liked about the in-person work is that I would go to work.
01:03:57.720
I would, you know, pay my house fee, work, and then come home, and it was over.
01:04:07.520
And I'm the kind of person where I just like to clock in and clock out, and that's how, like, stripping was for me.
01:04:26.200
Like, a guy who's in your DMs, he's like, oh, I'll pay you $1,000 a week if you talk to me type shit.
01:04:37.480
Well, I mean, not, like, a lot, but, yeah, a couple here and there.
01:04:47.840
Actually, I have this guy now, and I have, I quit sex work, like, what, three years ago, and he still just pays me.
01:04:54.940
He's a pay pig, and he just, he doesn't make a lot of money, but he just sends me money right here and there, and it's nice.
01:05:18.520
Right now, he's, he got let off from his job, so it's been zero for, like, three or four months now, but.
01:05:24.680
When he was paying you, how much was he sending you?
01:05:27.000
Um, I want to say, like, this past year, probably, like, four to eight hundred a month.
01:05:47.320
Okay, so, are you, do you currently have any other sugar daddies or guys like this?
01:05:57.320
So, um, you know how that whole, like, Adam 22 thing happened?
01:06:03.160
Mind you, I have, I only have, like, 500 followers on TikTok.
01:06:13.900
Like, he went through the process of trying to find me.
01:06:34.340
How much did he pay you for the singular FaceTime?
01:06:45.060
What's the, I don't, with the, so you said you want a guy like Adam 22.
01:06:48.880
So you want a guy who's okay with his partner fucking another dude?
01:06:56.800
I just like how Adam 22 was, like, very comfortable with, like, first of all, like, you know, Lena or Lena?
01:07:07.040
And then he, you know, was supporting her career.
01:07:10.260
I personally, like, I'm, I prefer monogamy in my relationships, but I just liked that he was supporting her career and, like, allowed her to do that scene.
01:07:20.380
I feel like that doesn't really make him, like, supportive.
01:07:24.020
Like, he let his wife go get, like, effed by another man.
01:07:26.920
Like, honestly, like, that's so humiliating for him.
01:07:29.720
I think it's such an embarrassment to marriage and, like, the, like, what a husband should be.
01:07:34.400
Like, I don't think, like, anyone should strive for that in a partner at all.
01:07:42.240
I mean, do you think that their finances are together or do you think they have their own separate finances?
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I mean, the people who are married don't necessarily have joint accounts all the time.
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He's benefiting from her work and her fame directly links to him.
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Which he's pimping out his wife, essentially, allowing him to do these things.
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And the other thing is they have young children, like, that are going to grow up and, like, see this.
01:08:11.740
I mean, I've, you know, I've been a sex, well, not anymore, but I was a sex worker for a long time.
01:08:18.400
And all I'm going to say, like, I don't know their situation, so I can't comment on that.
01:08:22.640
I can't, like, I feel like you're kind of assuming things that you don't really know about necessarily.
01:08:28.540
I feel like it's pretty fair to say he's a pimp for letting his wife get effed, you know, for money.
01:08:34.180
Because he's getting paid, even if their finances are separate, don't tell me he had no benefit to this at all.
01:08:40.180
I mean, as a sex worker, I had a boyfriend while I was doing sex work.
01:08:54.440
Did he allow you to do it, or did he put, like, did he advocate for you doing it?
01:09:04.660
Were you buying him any gifts or giving him anything or paying for anything?
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Like, I made it clear, like, this is what I pay for, this is what you pay for.
01:09:15.320
Do you think a woman should be allowed by her husband to engage in sex work while married?
01:09:20.640
Like, do you think that would ever be appropriate?
01:09:25.980
Doesn't that defeat the point of being married, though?
01:09:28.580
Like, if a marriage is a union between a man and a woman, and they're committed to each other,
01:09:33.380
then what's the point of, like, going outside of that?
01:09:38.440
And I can't sit here and judge or make any, like, standards for somebody else's relationship.
01:09:45.460
But I guess I'm more so saying that, like, marriage is, like, a union.
01:09:52.160
Like, so you see marriage as something different.
01:09:55.760
And I respect where you're coming from 110%, but the way I feel is just I can't comment
01:10:03.980
Well, legally and religiously marriage is between.
01:10:07.020
Universal marriage, even if it's not, if they're non-religious, for example, but they're married
01:10:13.560
I mean, if a woman is still engaging in sex work, I mean, every day that's basically cheating
01:10:23.640
Okay, so I'll do the red pill, blue pill thing.
01:10:27.360
I mean, some red pillers will say that it's okay for men to cheat and women to not.
01:10:35.840
If you're open with your partner about what you're doing, people have open marriages.
01:10:39.980
So if you're open with your partner about what you're doing, then I don't consider it cheating.
01:10:46.880
I mean, obviously, you guys have different values than me, and I respect that.
01:10:52.220
I'll just say, one of my good friends started dating a corn star about two years ago, and
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they're, like, one of the happiest couples that I've, like, ever met in my entire life.
01:11:05.480
So I just think, like, things and relationships is completely up to, like, those two people.
01:11:17.220
Wait, just, and so your friend is the male, correct?
01:11:30.120
She was already one when they, like, got together and started dating, and, yeah.
01:11:34.200
Why does she have the desire to continue being in the corn industry?
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Well, I actually think she's trying to, like, really grow in it because she's making, like,
01:11:43.320
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure that that's the thing, yeah.
01:11:48.140
I mean, I'm totally, like, a monogamous type of person, too.
01:11:51.220
But I just think that if people feel good and can be happy, like, doing that kind of thing,
01:11:58.440
But I do get the religious side, too, because I was for a very long time, and, like, at
01:12:02.980
that point in my life, I probably would also have been, like, oh, my God, why would someone
01:12:07.240
As a guy, as a guy, I mean, look, I know people have different viewpoints on a wide variety
01:12:14.960
of different topics, but the idea of my girl fucking another guy, like my girlfriend,
01:12:27.820
But I don't know how anybody could think that that's not gross by, if you're engaging in
01:12:31.960
sex with somebody else other than your partner that you're committed to, it, outside of just,
01:12:36.700
like, cheating on the other person, it's dirty.
01:12:39.520
And, I mean, even psychologically and statistically, the more people that you're sleeping with, it's
01:12:45.360
I just, yeah, I just don't see, I guess, how people can see themselves being married
01:12:49.540
long-term like that, because for me, I feel like you're trying, again, it goes back to
01:12:53.460
the fulfillment thing, you're trying to find fulfillment in these things that are not going
01:13:02.360
I don't believe that she started off doing that.
01:13:08.220
Hey, Brian, are you aware of Lizzo body shaming my apology for the interruption of the conversation
01:13:25.000
Lizzo body shamed her backup dancers and also forced them to eat bananas off of, I think,
01:13:34.940
Yeah, I heard the story, but is it she body shamed?
01:13:39.780
Yeah, she said that they were, like, too overweight.
01:13:50.580
It's not particularly related to dating, though.
01:13:57.980
I feel like, because I've watched his podcast a few times, like, why does Lizzo, like, why
01:14:01.660
is she, like, the one, like, overweight woman that gets brought up?
01:14:05.580
Like, what about Adele or, like, the rest of them?
01:14:07.320
I mean, we don't really bring up Lizzo all that much.
01:14:13.960
No, I think we've maybe brought her up, like, three or four podcasts.
01:14:21.260
She's also the one that I feel like that's, like, very, like, puts herself out there.
01:14:25.940
Puts herself out there a lot, so I feel like that's probably, like, awesome.
01:14:31.720
I think that's where it becomes a problem for people.
01:14:34.700
I think the context where we have brought Lizzo up is...
01:14:40.300
Yeah, so, like, when we do, like, what do you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10?
01:14:49.280
I think we should get the bodybuilding girls to weigh in on this one.
01:14:59.420
Um, I mean, obviously, you're going to look how you look, and it's different for everybody
01:15:05.480
how they got there, but we, the body positivity movement is definitely iffy in our eyes.
01:15:12.720
We're obviously not incredibly supportive of it.
01:15:19.280
I think we both think that health is really important, and if you are actively trying to
01:15:25.540
make a change, if you're, say, at an unhealthy weight, that's amazing, you know, kudos to
01:15:33.040
you, but I think that the way you take care of yourself in terms of that and other stuff
01:15:41.420
So, if I see you, and you look unhealthy, and you are not doing anything about it simply
01:15:49.000
because you're lazy, and you want to bring up body positivity as an excuse, I'm not going
01:15:56.660
Yeah, I think that the body positivity movement, like she said, is an excuse to not work hard,
01:16:03.720
which, obviously, I want to acknowledge that we came from an easier starting place than
01:16:09.160
someone who's, like, morbidly obese, so I have empathy for a different situation, but
01:16:14.660
I think that the body positivity movement has been, like, hijacked by a bunch of, like,
01:16:20.060
inclusive social justice warriors, and I think that, like, you can't tell me someone
01:16:28.160
And I've seen it all over social media, like, oh, I'm so happy I'm doing this, they're going
01:16:31.600
to be dead by the time they're, like, 35 if they keep, like, eating themselves away.
01:16:35.580
And I think that it also sends a really bad message to, like, younger people who are scrolling
01:16:39.940
on social media and being, like, this is okay, I can do this, and it's really not at all.
01:16:51.700
Yeah, and I mean, the body positivity movement originally started with things that were out
01:16:57.420
of your control, like if you had, like, if you were an amputee, or you had, like, a scar,
01:17:02.740
or, you know, some genetic thing, and I already got it, I already got it.
01:17:07.400
So, but it's transformed into, let's just, it's totally healthy at any size, you're healthy
01:17:21.500
Well, it distorted what the meaning of healthy even is, and then created this entire movement
01:17:26.000
of young girls that are, like, well, I can eat whatever I want and do whatever I want
01:17:30.020
with zero consequences, and then you have people that are overweight, you know, dealing
01:17:35.940
I mean, heart problems are very rapidly growing in the United States, and, I mean, we have
01:17:41.300
an entire generation of kids that are becoming obese with zero consequences.
01:17:45.780
To be fair, there are also skinny people who...
01:17:49.120
We haven't been into nutrition for that long, so obviously at one point this was me, but there's
01:17:53.880
skinny people who are eating whatever they want, and even though they might look healthy,
01:17:57.900
you're not, so not only is it physical appearance, but even if you look good, you should be focusing
01:18:08.120
No, I used to weigh, and you don't believe me because you guys don't know me, but, like,
01:18:14.200
It was really hard for me to put on weight, and then all of a sudden, I just gained a bunch
01:18:19.520
I was, like, stripping, so I was very active, and then once that stopped...
01:18:23.900
So I definitely see, like, the difference of being, like, a very skinny person to now
01:18:28.620
where I'm, like, pushing overweight, and it's weird for me because it's...
01:18:36.140
Our society, like, likes the, like, overweight stuff.
01:18:41.020
Like, I get way more attention from men now that I'm a little bit bigger than I did when
01:18:46.540
I was skinny, but I like how I was when I was skinny before, and I felt a lot better,
01:18:50.980
and my, just, my body felt better, so, I mean, once this, you know, disability thing
01:18:56.020
is over, then I'm definitely gonna try to lose weight.
01:18:58.900
Do you think that, um, I don't know how to put it, men liking bigger girls is a niche
01:19:08.200
Um, in my experience, it seems kind of widespread.
01:19:13.600
I mean, I was insecure about being skinny, and I, like, wanted to gain weight, so when I
01:19:18.820
started to gain weight, I was, like, happy about it, and then now, I mean, it's so weird.
01:19:25.280
I talk about this all the time with, like, my friends and family.
01:19:27.800
I'm, like, I feel like, I'm gonna be very frank right now, I feel, like, the least
01:19:33.040
attractive I ever have in my life, but I feel, I get, like, the most attention I ever
01:19:37.200
have in my life, I ever had in my life, and it's, especially with, like, being disabled
01:19:44.140
Como, Savabrain, Madison looking gorgeous as always.
01:19:50.280
South Louisiana in 6'5", plus 210 pounds, 80k a year, work on the water, 28 days, home
01:20:03.280
I mean, isn't 80k a year, like, a little over average, or?
01:20:07.040
That, that was a, first off, first off, well, thank you for your patronage.
01:20:17.200
Como, okay, anyways, so, just to recap here, he is 6'5", 210 pounds, he makes 80k a year,
01:20:26.440
he says he works on the water, he's 28 days home for 14?
01:20:32.980
My set dad does that, yeah, they're usually, like, away for, like, a month.
01:20:37.040
And then back for a month, that kind of thing, yeah.
01:20:40.520
Any girls who are single at the table, any takers?
01:21:15.160
Okay, all right, we'll ask everyone's type later.
01:21:27.100
I'm definitely just attracted to, like, people's, like, it sounds so, it sounds so ridiculous,
01:21:35.640
I feel like it's a little bit cap, because the initial, like, reaction when you're meeting
01:21:38.980
someone, you always look for, like, attractiveness, and then you find personality, you know?
01:21:44.160
Yes, but no, like, because there have been guys that I thought were so ugly, and then
01:21:47.520
after just, like, spending time with them, I was, like, attracted to them.
01:21:54.280
Like, she used to think I was ugly, but after getting to know me, I'm still ugly, but she
01:22:03.780
I guess, but, I mean, don't you need the physical attraction?
01:22:08.160
Well, that's the thing, like, after spending time with somebody, you, like, get attracted
01:22:14.140
He doesn't look a thing like Jesus, but he talks like a gentleman, and that's better.
01:22:38.780
Well, okay, I was 5'3 at the time, but I'm 5'5 now.
01:22:48.260
But everyone made fun of him for him being shorter than me.
01:22:55.100
Did the height, like, go up over those three years?
01:23:01.020
I don't think you can consider an 8th grade relationship.
01:23:16.300
But I grew, okay, no, because we actually talked since, from, like, 14 to, like, 16.
01:23:25.000
Throughout your relationship, did he stay 5'2 and you grew?
01:23:38.680
Never, ever, ever spend money on women online, including drop a like.
01:24:00.340
Mr. Cappadocio, ladies, have any of you had work done, boob job, lip filler?
01:24:05.160
Also, Isabella, are you cold or are they pierced?
01:24:09.400
Well, to answer your question, I've never had any work done.
01:24:43.540
Recently, I'm just kind of giving it up for now.
01:24:51.180
And I just remember people were starting to call me out on it.
01:24:57.720
And people were like, oh, did you get your cheeks filled?
01:25:03.020
Like, I would spend all my money on this outer body.
01:25:11.600
Did you feel like it was, like, a little degrading in a way when a guy would ask you that?
01:25:16.320
Because I felt embarrassed because I was like, I really overdid this.
01:25:30.640
And when I was in Playboy, I just really went hog wild.
01:25:34.440
I just was like, I want to look the big, the best.
01:25:37.000
And I felt like this spirit of, like, I got to do and look and achieve.
01:25:57.980
And I would, I definitely would say it was, it was, it was a lot.
01:26:39.600
Like, people tweets are like, do you have lip fillers?
01:27:06.620
Well, no, I can see that they're real, but I was wondering if anyone's ever asked you.
01:27:35.580
Does, this is a little to you, what's, does jab status affect your interest in a potential
01:27:45.780
Let's not talk about the actual thing, but you can say yes or no on that, I guess.
01:28:06.560
There was recently a global something, and people as a measure to, yeah, I feel like
01:28:18.620
no, I feel like simply because, no, because, I mean, I guess it depends.
01:28:23.460
I do feel like a lot of people were really put in bad positions, honestly, and I feel
01:28:27.500
like I'm not going to hold that against a future partner who checks off all the boxes
01:28:31.260
because he was put in a position where, you know, he potentially was going to lose his
01:28:36.960
I know my own college dropped me from all eight of my classes.
01:28:40.940
I had religious exemptions, medical exemptions, and they were not letting me attend back,
01:28:45.640
and I basically had a year and a half hold off with my university, and so, like, I know
01:28:50.640
how I felt, and that was just, like, simply college.
01:28:59.280
I will not date somebody or marry someone who's got it because of future fertility questions
01:29:04.840
Um, I don't think, for me, it matters too much.
01:29:37.920
Can I come on your show, you show, on your show?
01:29:41.440
Uh, you, you'll have to, uh, work on the grammar a little bit before you come on, but, um.
01:29:47.120
Um, uh, Puffy, we are very, very selective with, uh, some of the guests we invite on,
01:29:53.680
but, uh, you can, you can send us an Instagram message and we can potentially consider it.
01:30:01.960
Uh, we're gonna, we're gonna go, actually, I'll wait for this one.
01:30:16.800
We can go around the table on this, uh, while we wait for her to come back.
01:30:22.800
Um, I'm not gonna say I don't have a type, because I feel like I definitely do with the
01:30:35.740
Height, preference, probably tall, but obviously not really.
01:30:41.780
Like, I, my last boyfriend was 5'6", but, yeah.
01:30:50.160
In terms of, uh, like, looks, probably not, but more so, like, values and, like, someone
01:30:57.040
Okay, so values, I assume, like, has, has to be Christian.
01:31:08.840
Uh, physical looks, I feel like vary, but 100%, like, they have to be a strong, masculine
01:31:19.300
I want to be a wife, and, I mean, very traditional, traditional values.
01:31:28.680
Um, are you guys, when it comes to, you know, getting married, are you guys waiting until
01:31:37.620
I will say I've done it in the past, but currently waiting for marriage, and it's been about
01:31:55.180
Brian Como-Savo is Cajun French for how's it going.
01:32:02.180
I'd rather spend that on race car parts and the gym.
01:32:09.860
I think he's the one who is 6'5", 210 pounds, makes 80K-something a year.
01:32:34.480
777 notillion 777 septillion 777 septillion 777.
01:33:45.360
I mean, these are the only ones that are visible, but I have a ton on my back and my legs, too.
01:33:55.080
I, when I was, like, eight years old, I would take the inked magazines out of my mailbox at home,
01:34:05.760
I've always known I was going to be fully covered at some point.
01:34:12.020
Are you, are there any areas of your body you won't tattoo, like your neck or face?
01:34:18.060
Yes, I originally said I wouldn't touch my fingers or hands, but now that I'm hopefully
01:34:24.220
long-term in a job that doesn't require me to be super, super professional, I do have
01:34:37.420
I'm trying to make it as, I understand that in everybody's eyes it's going to be a little
01:34:49.600
I, even though my tattoos, I promise most of them mean something, even though they're
01:34:54.600
I mean, it's good that, you know, you don't want them anywhere private.
01:34:57.300
I actually, I encountered a woman once who had a YOLO tattoo above her hoo-ha.
01:35:12.660
We didn't, we like, we didn't go all the way, but I did see it.
01:35:35.520
I have Hawaiian flowers because I went to Hawaii and it was one of the best vacations of my life.
01:35:44.100
I got lucky because I had the medical concern happen last year.
01:35:48.500
And I'm just, I'm lucky for that, getting out of it.
01:36:03.220
Like, I went in for a sketch just to see what it would look like.
01:36:06.280
And he walks up to me and he said, hey, I'm going to be doing your tattoo.
01:36:15.700
And he said, I just got out of prison three days ago.
01:36:19.820
And I'm like, I was moving money and different accounts.
01:36:28.360
Let's do it really quick on the, I don't know why I decided to do this.
01:36:50.560
It's, we must accept what has happened as we would the fall of dice.
01:36:59.480
I don't really like this one just because it blew up.
01:37:01.800
And it looks a little corny because it's literally just Saturn.
01:37:04.500
And it's something you would see, like, when you're 12 years old.
01:37:09.080
It's Aristotle when he said the cosmos are more divine than humans.
01:37:18.980
And it means compassion for all living things in Hindu.
01:37:25.220
And then I have, like, a goddess embracing herself here.
01:37:37.960
The only tattoo I would get would be in Jerusalem.
01:37:40.200
It would be a cross at the oldest tattoo shop in the world called Rizuk.
01:37:47.960
I would get one of the original crosses probably on my wrist area.
01:37:52.500
I was there last year when I got baptized in the Jordan River.
01:38:01.000
But the only tattoo I would ever get would be that.
01:38:07.260
I have two butterflies on my wrist because my family believes in, like, reincarnation.
01:38:11.680
So it's, like, in representation of my mom and my younger brother.
01:38:15.600
I have my mom's birth flower down my back, her birth year, angel wings.
01:38:20.460
And then I have my dad's birth year right here.
01:39:02.300
He literally sent me this to do this in this exact moment.
01:39:20.880
I mean, you did put it on, so technically you accepted it.
01:39:35.980
I don't know if you checked your Instagram last show.
01:39:38.000
I called you like 10 times in a row on Instagram.
01:39:44.900
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
01:39:47.140
We will start with you, and then we'll go around the table.
01:40:05.700
I say a 10 because my body's done a good job this year.
01:40:10.320
It's done a good job this year in taking care of me.
01:40:12.400
Well, like, it's not a rating on how well your body has taken care of you.
01:40:17.500
It's more so like your physical attractiveness.
01:40:20.860
You know, I guess if I could work out, maybe like at 8, and I could maybe just like work
01:40:27.360
I want to get back in the gym, and I want arms like that.
01:40:50.980
Like, think about when they say, like, you've watched like a bodybuilding show before.
01:40:56.860
When they turn to the front, you show like everything from the front, like a front double by.
01:41:15.660
I like your muscles, but you can't even see them.
01:41:19.100
Well, just because she's looking to work out, so...
01:41:33.860
I don't really know how to perceive myself, to be honest.
01:41:36.760
But I'll just say I like to carry confidence, but I also criticize myself a lot.
01:41:45.920
Not in like an unhealthy way, but I think everyone understands what I mean.
01:41:52.240
So, I've watched a few of your, like, shows here, at least 10, and I realized that whenever
01:42:03.360
But then I told Matt that I was not going to say 10, and he said, what?
01:42:55.820
She's like, I'm a 6, but I think I'm a little cuter than you.
01:43:02.820
I was going to properly rebuke her, but some TTS, some Super Chats came in, and it slipped
01:43:26.240
Brian, appreciate all the work you're doing here in bringing awareness to modern dating
01:43:35.580
I feel like the Adam 22 thing was kind of getting into it a bit.
01:43:46.080
I think I might have something here that might get us going a little bit.
01:43:52.660
So he says the girls are 767, 7.5, 777, 7.5, 7.5.
01:43:59.920
I'm not sure which direction, but probably, yeah.
01:44:04.820
I've dated five separate women who are married to famous men.
01:44:08.080
They were, excuse me, they were all divorced at the time I met them.
01:44:19.060
So, Kat, you, in your pre-show messages to us, you had indicated, sorry, I'm getting this
01:44:25.560
pulled up, that you're not in favor of hookup culture.
01:44:36.540
You also said, though, that you think body count is irrelevant, correct?
01:44:42.920
And in addition to that, you also said men are weird for wanting young virgins.
01:44:55.800
I think when it comes to body count, it's like, if you, you know, you have, like, certain
01:45:16.340
I promise you won't regret it and we'll have the best time of your life.
01:45:45.480
I don't really, I don't like to, honestly, I'm pretty introverted, so I don't like.
01:45:57.000
I don't know about bars or clubs or any of that shit.
01:46:01.340
I think a music festival is a little different, but it's still kind of just within the realm
01:46:10.100
That's how most of my girlfriends feel, so I can, me and Matt just go.
01:46:14.800
So if you think it's, I do think body count is important.
01:46:17.440
I think it's, I do think statistically it's important because the more bodies that a person
01:46:22.140
has, both male and female, the higher the divorce rate is and the more unhappy
01:46:27.480
But, so you said it was weird for like men to want like young virgins.
01:46:31.960
I really don't think that there are like old virgins around, but also then is it weird
01:46:35.740
that like a 50 year old wanted something with you that was like intimate?
01:47:02.840
No, I mean, no, I'm not, no, I'm not saying that, oh my God, that I was groomed or something.
01:47:06.460
But like, I mean, I was just trying to have a good time.
01:47:12.080
But like, I feel like the, the weird part stands on him.
01:47:20.340
Do you think that that's reinforcing his behavior though?
01:47:26.320
I just feel like even if you think it's wrong and you still participate in it, that's kind
01:47:32.980
Well, yeah, but I mean, I'm not saying that he, okay.
01:47:41.180
There's a difference between like something being like inherently wrong and then something
01:47:45.780
Like he never, and honestly, we like dated, but it wasn't like super serious.
01:47:50.000
Like we're not going to get, we're never going to get married or anything.
01:47:55.120
But I think it's weird for, and also I wasn't a 21 year old who was like a virgin or anything.
01:48:01.320
I think it's weird for men who are, you know, older who want to marry and kind of, in my
01:48:09.880
opinion, groom young women, especially if they're 18, 19, who like haven't had sex yet.
01:48:15.740
Or honestly, even any woman who hasn't had sex yet, if you're an experienced man, I think
01:48:24.020
Because I feel like it's, but you said like it's weird for men to want like young virgins.
01:48:28.020
I feel like there's a big difference between like a 50 year old man wanting like an 18 year
01:48:31.140
old virgin and like, you know, a 30 year old or 27 year old wanting like a virgin.
01:48:36.980
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
01:48:41.940
I also think that like from my conversations that I've had, I always find that it is girls
01:48:47.380
typically with very high body counts that tend to believe that body counts do not matter.
01:48:56.760
I mean, I also feel like women with low body counts kind of want like a little like reward
01:49:04.700
So, um, but yeah, it's, that's, I could say the same thing.
01:49:09.760
Well, I feel like that like women with low body counts, um, feel like they're better than
01:49:19.160
Like, I think it should be acknowledged that in like a world where it's like everyone's
01:49:23.380
hooking up with each other and that's the easiest thing to do and to not be promiscuous.
01:49:26.780
I do think that in and of itself is something that's like recognizable.
01:49:33.080
I mean, I'm personally, I'm going to keep myself out of this because, um, I personally
01:49:41.360
I watched, um, an episode a couple of days ago.
01:49:44.080
It was somebody's husband, Billy, Billy, Billy something's husband.
01:49:48.580
He mentioned how it's kind of unfair to blame women these days for having a higher body count
01:49:53.860
because we were kind of told the, oh, it's great.
01:49:56.640
And then all of a sudden, like, I want to say, like, I had never heard about body count
01:50:01.140
at all, you know, after high school, you know, I'm 26 now.
01:50:04.800
And then now that I'm 26, uh, like last year, I started hearing about it again.
01:50:10.060
And like, it's kind of weird because I feel like it didn't matter.
01:50:12.340
And also, I also, I find it to be kind of juvenile.
01:50:15.580
I mean, if a guy asked me my body count, I would be like, how old are you?
01:50:20.620
Well, if he wanted a serious relationship with you and wanted a marriage with you, I mean, it's
01:50:24.440
statistically, the marriage success rate goes down the toilet and women are 80%, 80% of
01:50:29.480
marriage or, sorry, 50% of marriages in the United States ended in divorce and 80% of
01:50:34.120
those are initiated by women, which is directly correlated to if you have slept with more people
01:50:39.220
and you have more bodies on your record, you're more likely to get a divorce.
01:50:42.640
So I don't think it's unfair for a man to ask, hey, how many men have you been with in the
01:50:47.520
Because that's going to impact him and his future too.
01:50:49.860
And I also think there's a difference between like some random person asking your body count
01:50:53.320
and someone who genuinely wants to have a relationship with you and be intimate with
01:50:56.700
I think, I think that body count is important to the person that you're with and being
01:51:04.000
I mean, I, like I said, I have no issue with people like, um, having issue with body
01:51:09.360
counts, but only if their body count is also like low.
01:51:12.260
Like, I just don't like how men will come on here or like any other podcast or just vocalize
01:51:17.140
how they are allowed to have sex with 300, 400 women, but then expect to be with a woman
01:51:31.020
I sort of agree as I watched how the relationship between little Ed and Liz Wood's relationship
01:51:40.300
I've been with someone with a high body count and the one with a lower one.
01:51:44.460
The lower one showed sympathy unlike the other.
01:51:55.300
Um, I also wanted to add that, um, I feel like it's less about how many people you slept
01:52:04.660
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01:52:09.340
Um, it's less about how many people you slept with and more about like your experience with
01:52:14.600
Like, I feel like one bad relationship will truly taint a man or woman for their future
01:52:22.000
I think it's less about casual sex and, um, I mean, I don't know.
01:52:30.840
Um, so I can't, I don't have a lot to comment on the one side.
01:52:37.840
Do you agree that psychologically though, the more people that women sleep with, it changes
01:52:42.980
the chemicals like in your brain to where you're enabled to have a longer term relationship
01:52:49.420
That's like, that's like, no, I mean, I, I mean, look, I, I've, I don't have, I personally
01:52:56.180
don't have issues with relationships at all or falling in love.
01:52:58.680
The one thing that did change me personally was like this one bad experience that I had
01:53:03.580
And that's what I, what I feel like is more detrimental as opposed to like sleeping with
01:53:09.700
I don't think that it really matters that much.
01:53:12.360
Well, you mentioned that, well, having a specifically one bad toxic relationship may have more of
01:53:19.420
a negative impact than having high body count, but it can be both.
01:53:23.380
If you have a one singular bad relationship that could potentially, um, have a negative
01:53:31.140
But certainly if you've had like a long string of transient sexual partners, you know, you've
01:53:37.000
had 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, one night stands or short term, whatever that has a negative
01:53:44.420
I think it kind of depends on like, especially when it comes to women, um, I, well, so when
01:53:50.580
I was in high school, um, a lot of like my friends like just would have sex with guys
01:53:58.340
And that, I think that can be traumatic and that can change you.
01:54:01.780
But I mean, are we just like doubting like women's sexuality?
01:54:08.940
There's a difference though between doubting a woman's sexuality and then borderline being
01:54:14.220
like, it's okay to sleep with whoever you think you want to or who you're attracted
01:54:18.560
And like Morgan said, like statistically, it's been proven that like women are getting
01:54:23.600
divorces literally because of their body counts, quite literally.
01:54:28.620
And I don't believe women who have high body counts feel good about themselves.
01:54:32.060
I don't know how someone can feel like good about themselves having so many.
01:54:36.860
I'm just saying like in general, like I don't know how I could feel good about myself having
01:54:40.820
like so many bodies to the point where like I've lost track.
01:54:43.940
Well, before I have you respond, you wanted to come in.
01:54:46.660
I was just going to say you can be horny and control your desires.
01:54:55.120
I think that there's a difference between men and women.
01:54:57.320
I do believe that sometimes men need to like get it out of their system, but I'm not saying
01:55:01.280
that men should be able to sleep with 50 plus women because they're men.
01:55:04.840
And I think that's where people like get confused too.
01:55:06.840
Like even with conservatism, like, oh, men need to get out of their systems.
01:55:12.480
Why would I, if my body count is so low or I've like worked hard to like preserve myself
01:55:18.220
for my husband, why would I want to marry someone who has 40 bodies, 50 bodies, 60 bodies?
01:55:23.760
Also, I want to mention that that study that you're referencing, it talks about people
01:55:28.320
who have like, there's a big difference in when it comes to divorce, when it comes to
01:55:33.260
people who have had more than one body count beyond that.
01:55:41.340
Also, yeah, if you have more experience, like naturally, like you're going to like not
01:55:47.580
And yeah, if you've only slept with one person your entire life, like you're not going to
01:55:51.460
have the experience or maybe even like the confidence to want to leave that person.
01:56:01.180
Even if there's kids involved, do you think divorce is fine?
01:56:04.020
I'm a child of divorce and I'm glad my parents got divorced.
01:56:06.400
And you think that your life spent out the way that you want it to because of you?
01:56:11.140
My parents fought all the time when I was a kid.
01:56:13.380
And actually, I feel like their fighting almost was more detrimental than them getting
01:56:18.580
I mean, I feel like in situations like that, it's a little bit different, right?
01:56:28.020
So I would feel like I'd consider that like under the guise of like abuse, but also to
01:56:32.380
like the going, like the marriage thing, like a lot of people, like we've in America, we've
01:56:38.600
People have been able to get divorces for whatever reason they feel like.
01:56:41.540
And I feel like that has like been against our demise where people like get marriages
01:56:47.560
I think it's an absolute mockery of marriage and what it should be.
01:56:50.080
Or like even like you sitting here like single or whatever, like not married, like being
01:56:57.980
Like, I guess I just can't like wrap my mind around that.
01:57:00.320
I feel like that's detrimental to like you, your husband, your future kids.
01:57:04.260
I feel like it's very unfair to your future children, especially if they are involved.
01:57:08.980
I think it depends on the, on the scenario, but, but I don't, what I don't, if it was like
01:57:14.440
a divorce where there was just, it, it was detrimenting the whole family and they, and
01:57:19.480
I do believe you should at least go to some sort of counseling.
01:57:23.680
Like, you can't just be like, oh, I'm splitting and, and, but I do feel serial remarriers,
01:57:31.340
And, and, and it's like, if you see yourself getting divorced, getting married, get, you
01:57:35.100
start checking why you're either attracting these types of people or why.
01:57:44.180
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01:58:01.220
We're going to need like a, uh, some sort of cipher, something to decipher, uh, this,
01:58:11.220
I mean, I, I'm not, I'm just trying to decipher this for you.
01:58:16.040
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01:58:20.840
Body count is a dumb conversation because it's not zero sum.
01:58:25.200
If guys want women with lower body counts, they should stop increasing them.
01:58:32.040
Well, I mean, I mean, on that topic though, what I would say is there's a smaller proportion
01:58:38.720
of men that are supposedly responsible, responsible for increasing women's body count.
01:58:48.160
Like a lot of men will be like, oh, this is so bad and it's so horrible, but who's creating
01:58:52.880
I mean, who's creating the demand and then who's meeting the supply?
01:58:55.800
Like, do I know women who do only fans and like making six figures, do I necessarily
01:59:02.740
No, you know, but the same men that like, yeah, I mean, I think that there's definitely.
01:59:12.040
Because the men are instigating the women to continue doing it.
01:59:14.540
But then if the men are like, well, I don't want to marry someone who has a high body count,
01:59:28.540
A lot of men are doing only fans and a lot of their audience are other men as well.
01:59:33.760
I don't post, like, I'm not posting, like, nudes and shit.
01:59:43.200
I will say my fiancé and I never talked about body count until we started watching whatever.
01:59:58.680
When you really think about it, you can just lie.
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I could just tell chicks I'm a virgin till they meet my kid.
02:00:09.600
When someone has a high body count, I feel like you can always tell.
02:00:14.920
There's always something that somebody has a high body count.
02:00:24.080
I want to know what your, everybody's stances on, hypothetically, if a woman were to have a high body count or be promiscuous and then, for lack of better words, be remorseful about it.
02:00:43.840
Stop blaming men for grown independent women's decisions.
02:00:47.220
Having a high body count comes with a set of habits the average man would prefer his wife not exemplify.
02:01:00.300
To answer your question, I feel like there's a lot of women who are lied to, and I have friends who are older who have said, you even said, body count really wasn't even talked about.
02:01:10.300
And I think that there's a lot of women, specifically in feminism, who relied to say that this was empowering and that they would have time later on in their lives for a family and that there was no need to do that in their 20s.
02:01:19.440
And now that most of them, and people even I know, find themselves remorseful for their lifestyles, unmarried, no children.
02:01:26.640
And I think that if they're remorseful for the lifestyle, I think that's okay, as opposed to being proud of their lifestyle and standing by it.
02:01:35.500
Do you think that sex positivity is kind of like a ruse that's in the interest of men?
02:01:44.340
I think that it definitely benefits men, and that's why I don't understand why so much women harp on it, because it's literally, you're being used, and it's at your demise.
02:01:55.900
If sex work was truly empowering for women, men would not support it.
02:02:01.240
I also think the modern feminist movement has completely lied to women to be empowered, to enable them to go into sex work, which is just a lie.
02:02:10.160
I mean, men are the ones that are, again, supplying that to where, I mean, OnlyFans really is the biggest PIMP of it all, taking 20% of every single woman's money that they're making on this account by posting nude images of themselves under the guise of being empowering.
02:02:23.700
And so it's just another lie that, I mean, the feminist movement has continued to sell to women, on top of, like, even the birth control movement.
02:02:30.980
When birth control came out, it was being able to be sexual and sleep around with people with no consequences.
02:02:37.480
And that's when that started to come, in the early times, that's why it was put on the market.
02:02:44.260
I'm not on birth control at all, but I think there's multiple moments in history that women have just continuously been lied to and encouraged to have a higher body count.
02:02:56.300
The only thing body count determines is how experienced your partner is in the bedroom.
02:03:01.640
I've hooked up with virgins and they were all zzzzzzzz.
02:03:06.280
Boo Baller is hands down the best sexual partner I've ever had that continues to surprise me and blow my mind.
02:03:20.140
So this is your boyfriend who has just sent a TTS to a live, fiance to live stream advertising your sexual abilities.
02:03:29.160
I don't, hey, different strokes for different folks.
02:03:33.700
But okay, like, okay, I mean, I'm the only guy here.
02:03:36.340
But I mean, we've asked guys this question before.
02:03:38.320
And this is often a common attempt at a rebuttal to the whole body count thing.
02:03:43.140
Well, oh, well, as a guy, like, don't you want a girl who's sexually experienced?
02:03:52.160
But, like, there's other factors when it comes to attractiveness.
02:03:55.220
Like, and also, like, as a guy, typically, if you know how to lead in the bedroom, you can take a girl who's never had sex and had great sex with her.
02:04:06.620
People with high body counts are desensitized to understand relationships and if they can honor it or respect it.
02:04:16.820
Yeah, this idea, like, also, like, a woman who's been in one long-term relationship, you could argue that she's maybe had sex more often with that one person versus a girl.
02:04:32.420
Like, let's say a girl has had sex with one guy a thousand times versus a girl who's had sex with a hundred guys one time each.
02:04:40.180
I mean, I'm going to probably think, like, the girl who was in the relationship could, like, probably is going to be better.
02:04:47.460
In any case, as a guy, if you know how to lead in the bedroom, like, you can take a girl who's never had sex before and have great sex with her.
02:04:54.340
Well, I think that's something that's special you to.
02:04:58.280
Oh, I thought you were addressing what I was saying.
02:05:04.400
So, yeah, but you're kind of, you're talking about it from a guy's perspective.
02:05:08.120
Like, yeah, maybe you can enjoy it, but, like, is she going to enjoy it?
02:05:14.100
Because, I mean, I don't look what I was, I mean, sorry.
02:05:17.480
I mean, when I was first having sex, like, I know that it wasn't as comfortable for me, and I feel like both partners.
02:05:26.460
Brian, here's $100 to refund the virtue signaling Simpoo tried to blame men for a woman's promiscuity.
02:05:35.900
And, look, I think, yeah, who was it who did that anyways?
02:05:42.040
Oh, let me, actually, really quick, let me get this.
02:05:48.700
Hey, Brian, would you ever have Jensen on the show?
02:05:55.460
I think, I don't know if he's, I used to film some videos with this kid named Jensen.
02:06:00.880
We, like, did, this was back in the prank video days.
02:06:08.880
Was it another TTS that came through that was trying to minimize?
02:06:21.640
That means we got to do a fit check, but we'll wait until What's Her Name is back, and we'll do a little fit check.
02:06:26.340
And I guess we'll do another, like, some, this is, like, the bodybuilding part of the show.
02:06:43.460
Really quick, why don't you pull up the Twitch?
02:06:44.820
We will come back to our conversation thread really quick.
02:07:20.780
We were talking about body count, and I was talking about how a woman...
02:07:26.940
Oh, no, you were talking about, well, you're viewing it from the man's perspective, but
02:07:31.960
like, as a girl, when I was a virgin, it wasn't a...
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What you're saying, well, is it going to be good for her?
02:07:55.580
No, not even just pain, but I feel like when...
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I'm not going to speak on anyone's, like, preferences, but I feel like men are...
02:08:12.560
Okay, I think some men actually do like when women are, like, are almost, like, not, like,
02:08:20.300
not, like, into it, or, like, they only care about how they feel, and I feel like it almost
02:08:38.620
Like, almost, like, don't know what's going on sometimes.
02:08:45.140
Yeah, I feel like sometimes men are, like, into, like, just, like, oh, like...
02:08:51.860
Like, you know, they want just, like, a girl who's going to, like, go with whatever, or...
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So, I guess, yeah, I agree with you that if a man can lead, it might be good for him,
02:09:05.860
Yeah, I think that's kind of what I'm getting at.
02:09:10.740
I think originally you were saying that you were more concerned that if a woman was just starting
02:09:15.460
out having sex that it wouldn't be as enjoyable for her, but I think in the scenario
02:09:19.800
we're describing, hopefully, because we were talking about virginity, right?
02:09:22.900
Hopefully it's with somebody she loves and has been with, which I think would inherently
02:09:28.680
make it a good experience, even if it's not the greatest sex.
02:09:32.900
In a random situation where, let's say you're a virgin and you're losing it to a complete
02:09:38.060
total stranger, like a random hookup, like, that's more concerning.
02:09:45.060
Like, losing your virginity to someone that is, like, a random hookup?
02:09:50.320
Don't you think that it's kind of been normalized now, though, that for people to lose it young,
02:09:54.980
just, like, get it over with, get it out of your system, women, sleep around, like,
02:09:58.240
get that sexual experience, which now men, when dating, I don't think men ever desire
02:10:06.180
Because, like Brian said, like, you can learn that in marriage.
02:10:22.760
Like, some men want an experience, some men want experience.
02:10:30.980
I think most men seek sexually experienced women for hookups, and they seek non-sexually
02:10:45.380
For hookups, they'll hook up with anybody, whether you're experienced or not.
02:10:48.960
If they're doing it once, and then they're not talking to her again, they might as well
02:10:58.220
I would say that when it, for one-night stands, a guy is, hold that thought.
02:11:09.640
So, a man is, for a one-night stand or a casual hookup, he's more willing to be with a woman
02:11:20.600
But I think even in, at least for me, I think a lot of other guys here, even for a one-night
02:11:27.720
stand, if given the option, a guy would much prefer going with a girl who's had, like, slept
02:11:34.980
with one other guy versus a girl who slept with 50.
02:11:41.320
Yeah, but that's, like, a lot of, I feel like age matters in this point.
02:11:43.980
A lot of older, more mature men don't want, like, women with a high body count.
02:11:49.080
But, say, younger men, like, they don't really care.
02:11:51.580
Well, if a guy, but, okay, I think the, they, I think for long-term relationships, excuse
02:12:01.760
But, like, if they're just trying to have a hookup, it's not so much part of the calculus.
02:12:07.360
But at a younger age now, like, hookups lead to long-term relationships.
02:12:10.640
See, but isn't that such a backwards dating system?
02:12:14.100
Like, why are we allowing hookups to be the basis of the beginning of a relationship?
02:12:19.580
Technically, in the brain, there's three, like, brain systems involved with a relationship.
02:12:26.580
And it's connection, it's desire, and it's romantic love.
02:12:31.740
And it can come in any order, and you can still be in love and have a successful relationship.
02:12:38.300
Yeah, well, I, I think that, like, most, I would say a lot of relationships, it's not
02:12:46.780
like, let's date for three months, not hookup, get it, and then have sex.
02:12:53.380
I think, I would say most relationships start, whether you think it's right or wrong, I would
02:12:57.880
say most relationships start, people will hookup relatively soon, continue hooking up, and
02:13:03.800
then they'll find themselves, oh, we like each other, okay, we're in a relationship.
02:13:07.380
Now, does that, is that, you know, could that be, excuse me, I'm getting tongue-tied here,
02:13:12.180
does that inevitably lead to a lot of people casually hooking up and then not going anywhere,
02:13:22.740
Probably, probably not, but is that kind of the meta?
02:13:25.600
I would say, yeah, that's how most relationships, I think most relationships start.
02:13:29.460
It's people just, they'll hook up, continue hooking up, oh, we like each other, boyfriend,
02:13:36.720
Right, but then how many people are you going to hook up with until you find the one that
02:13:39.780
Because then you're just continuing to feed into hookup culture, and then you're continuing
02:13:42.840
to make your body count higher, and then continuing to play into men's desires.
02:13:48.780
I just am saying that it is possible for a couple that has sexual experiences with each
02:14:00.000
And actually, I would say most of my long-term relationships, like I've had a five-year
02:14:03.380
relationship, two-year relationship, one-year relationship, so I'm like, you know, nine
02:14:07.760
All of my long-term relationships that were otherwise good relationships, we hooked up
02:14:15.800
the first, second, or third date, like pretty quickly.
02:14:20.140
Do you think the, I think what's more concerning, and I don't know if this is what you meant,
02:14:27.780
I feel like if you, first of all, are the type of person to go on many casual hookups
02:14:34.580
with another person who's the type of person to go on many casual hookups.
02:14:38.540
It's possible, obviously, but I don't know how successful it would be.
02:14:52.420
Madison, you can actually scoot over a little bit if you'd like.
02:14:59.460
Who was, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you there.
02:15:02.760
I was just saying that I think what's more concerning is the circumstance in which they
02:15:07.680
met, not necessarily that it was first a hookup.
02:15:11.900
So, like, if they were to meet on, like, Instagram or meeting at a bar, meeting in class, like,
02:15:16.620
the circumstance, how they met two, that led to the hookup?
02:15:19.400
I think that, like, let's say two people meet because it's a one-night stand, I think what's
02:15:26.640
less promising about the relationship is that it's two people who are likely to have
02:15:33.660
I think if it's, like, a very rare occasion, neither of you do that often, it just so happens,
02:15:39.780
then it's a pretty high chance of that being successful, because, like she said, it's out
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I thought she was just going to the bathroom, but okay.
02:16:30.660
Well, you just have an example of a successful relationship that came out of a one-night stand,
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but obviously, you don't have to share it if you don't want to.
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I thought you were talking about me, and I was really confused.
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I've never, just so it doesn't sound like I was about to say something else, I'm a virgin,
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But it's not because, I'm not waiting until marriage or anything crazy like that.
02:17:05.240
But anyway, so my parents met in a one-night stand, and they've been together for 37 years
02:17:14.040
And to be fair, it was, actually, I don't know if it was a rare occasion for them.
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But I think my dad might be watching this, actually.
02:17:30.820
He sat my friends down in the morning and told everybody the story.
02:17:36.480
What was the context of him telling the story to your friends?
02:17:42.100
But he does tend to show off a little bit in front of, like, I have, we had gone back to
02:17:49.260
my hometown for my birthday, and I brought my entire friend group, and it is a lot of
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And, yeah, he started the conversation with, it was Wednesday, March 31st.
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They both had had a previous marriage, so I believe they were early 30s.
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They hooked up, and she moved in two weeks later, and it's been 37 years now, I believe.
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Even a one-night stand can lead to a long-lasting.
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Yeah, but that is definitely the exception, not the rule.
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No, 100% people can meet and fall in love based off of one-night stands.
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But I don't think that that should be the 21st century, 2023 standard.
02:18:53.920
Can we also say, like, most even long-term relationships don't go the distance either?
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So can we also say, well, it's also, even in loving long-term relationships, it's the exception, not the rule,
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that it ends up becoming a marriage that has lasted 30.
02:19:12.660
Like, I mean, you know, we can kind of say the same about relationships, too.
02:19:17.340
Out of curiosity, I feel like you would know the statistic.
02:19:20.520
When did marriages, it's a 50% divorce rate, I believe, right, at the moment?
02:19:27.820
It depends on certain demographics, but, yeah, let's, like, it's, I think, 50% of marriages end in divorce.
02:19:35.080
So do you know when that statistic started increasing in divorces?
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Probably around, I want to say, 60s or 70s, right?
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I want to say probably around the time of the sexual revolution with the introduction of birth control, which was in the 60s.
02:19:55.520
Which was also the first rise of, like, modern feminism.
02:19:58.460
So ever since 50s, 60s to now, divorce rates have increased.
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Obviously, social media plays a role into that.
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Just watch out for that mic there, just so we get you into the frame better.
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My question was, is it true that, I haven't looked at the statistics, but, is the major cause of divorce still money?
02:20:23.540
Is that, is that the major, is the major cause of divorce these days still money, like finances?
02:20:29.540
My understanding is when it comes to divorce, one of the primary contributing factors is financial difficulties.
02:20:38.320
I messaged Brian about, like, so there's apparently amongst millennials, especially women, it meant to, but mostly millennial women, there's a lot of financial trauma.
02:20:51.240
I don't know if it was something that happened where their parents struggled, and now women are like, I got to earn, I got to earn, and it kind of puts the shell around them so they're not in a receiving mode.
02:21:02.700
And I'm so curious if that's one of the causes, the major ones, is money, because.
02:21:09.340
Yes, it is, but a lot of it is financial security, like, with your partner and being able to provide for your family.
02:21:14.720
When you're talking about, like, you know, women needing to work, I think, honestly, a lot of that is more feminism with, like, you know, being a corporate woman, like, I can do it on my own.
02:21:23.760
The boss babe energy, waiting to have kids, waiting to get married, to where now even the marriage rate and our birth rate in America has decreased because women feel like that they need to provide.
02:21:34.760
Do you really feel like it's all women's fault?
02:21:36.520
Like, the second women were able to provide for themselves, they chose not to be with men.
02:21:44.820
I don't think it's women's fault at all, but I do think that ever since the 60s, you know, since modern feminism, the more that women have put out in society, I'm talking like corporate world.
02:21:57.500
If you look at the corporate society, for example, women now are being told to stay and work longer because the corporations are benefiting off of women working at them.
02:22:11.360
I'm not blaming women, but I do think that women have been bought into this lie that they've been sold.
02:22:16.700
Do you think they're being submissive to their employment rather than to their man?
02:22:21.200
So, how would you suggest that we could possibly fix this then?
02:22:31.520
So, are you, like, would you suggest that women work less and seek out, like, a husband to provide?
02:22:47.960
I'm working, you know, to be financially independent myself.
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100% every woman, you know, is trying to be financially independent.
02:22:54.580
But I also think at the end of the day, like, when you're in a relationship, what is the point of being in a relationship?
02:23:06.020
Do you think it's negative for women to be career-driven in a relationship?
02:23:13.120
Because I do think that there can be a relationship where...
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Relationships where the woman is the breadwinner and the man is a stay-at-home dad.
02:23:19.320
Totally fine, and that works for a lot of women.
02:23:21.280
But I also think that in society, women are being told to work more in the corporate world,
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which is being more detrimental to even their mental health.
02:23:30.560
I mean, we've never seen this many women on antidepressants.
02:23:33.860
We've never seen this many women on anxiety medications.
02:23:38.240
And I think it's more of women aren't focused, have skewed priorities.
02:23:45.660
I mean, we haven't seen this many people in general, men or women, on antidepressants.
02:24:21.180
I'm trying really hard not to interrupt anyone.
02:24:23.360
I do think that mental illness in a lot of cases, obviously not all, is now more prevalent
02:24:29.880
not only because of science, but because it's kind of like a cop-out, to be honest with you.
02:24:35.880
I think a lot of people almost have a desire to be diagnosed with something.
02:24:41.340
Maybe if it's not as an excuse, as a form of uniqueness or...
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This is a big thing in our industry, is talking about the average person has such a victim
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mentality, myself included, before I got into what I'm doing, for sure.
02:25:08.300
Yeah, like, and this is just a small example, because it's like what I do for a living, but
02:25:12.540
like before I started lifting, I thought like, do you guys know what Chloe Ting is?
02:25:19.880
So background information, scientifically does not work at all.
02:25:24.540
It's the easy route that most women take, especially in quarantine, and some of it is lack of knowledge.
02:25:29.700
But I feel like you kind of blame like, oh, well, I just can't gain weight, or I can't
02:25:35.540
And that's only the case a very small percentage of the time that you genuinely cannot.
02:25:40.560
And I said that my entire life, because I was 85 pounds.
02:25:42.760
And then I researched weightlifting and nutrition, and guess what?
02:25:48.220
35 pounds first year, when you just start actually actively working.
02:25:54.060
And just like informing yourself on the right ways to do it.
02:26:09.420
I think that, back to the mental illness route, people want to make excuses for themselves
02:26:15.340
Wait, Kojak in the chat says, spaghetti arms, I lift.
02:26:23.980
She's only been working out for a year and a half.
02:26:28.200
Yeah, I've also only been lifting for a little bit.
02:26:46.480
There's definitely a lot of points I do want to circle back on, because we were talking
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We also got a fit check here from Mr. Flan Life.
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Does anybody have like one of those ankle monitors you want to show?
02:27:57.620
Oh, I think they want to spin if you guys want to.
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Let me get a couple chats, then we'll come back to our conversation.
02:28:15.920
Ladies, by consensus, who at the table do you think would make the best wife for Brian
02:28:28.160
I think he's just saying that because you both look a little nerdy.
02:28:59.360
I've always felt like you guys have cute chemistry.
02:29:22.720
I mean, that's a whole other conversation, like, age gap dating.
02:29:25.180
But, I mean, actually, most of the women I date are actually around my age.
02:29:29.860
Like, some of the more recent women in, say, the past two or three years I've dated have
02:29:37.260
But, generally speaking, I date women around my age.
02:29:47.520
Do you not find that, like, just out of curiosity...
02:29:50.880
Do you not find that, not even just a maturity gap between you and an 18-year-old, but a
02:29:56.460
Well, and to be clear, like, of most of the women I've recently dated, they're, like,
02:30:07.680
Like, if some fucking babe who's 21, I'm not gonna, like, be like, ha-ha, no.
02:30:29.900
But it's not like I'm trolling at college parties trying to find an 18-year-old.
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I'm not saying they have any malicious attacks.
02:30:34.020
There's also, like, 18-year-olds that are, like, way more mature than you think they would
02:30:47.660
Well, me personally, though, I don't have issues with age gaps.
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If both people are adults, I don't have an issue with it.
02:30:57.020
As someone who's dated or, like, who's gone on dates or has had relationships with women
02:31:05.400
my age, older than me, around my age, there are some very, very immature women who are
02:31:12.640
There are some women who are very toxic who are 35.
02:31:15.940
There are some women who are 21 that are very pleasant and actually quite mature.
02:31:22.020
And the other thing when it comes to dating young...
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Actually, we should react to a tape video because he's going to be able to articulate this much
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But someone who's younger has less relationship baggage.
02:31:32.540
It's more likely to have less relationship baggage, lower body count.
02:31:35.560
And also, like, when it comes to physical attractiveness, what men and women find physically
02:31:46.440
Like, it's not just, like, a fringe group of men that find, like, 21-year-old women really
02:31:55.840
And if they're going to be honest with you, I mean, if there's something to be said about
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certain people prefer hearing comforting lies over uncomfortable truths.
02:32:05.340
The fact of the matter is, like, if you ask most men, they would say when it comes to purely
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physical attractiveness, not talking about relatability or things in common, women between
02:32:15.680
the age of, like, I think 21 to 25 is when most men will agree that's, like, the peak
02:32:21.620
The peak age group of women that they find the most physically attractive.
02:32:28.100
And, look, as we age, you know, we maybe gain a bit of weight.
02:32:32.600
Some people can get physically fitter, but, you know, you start going under, you know, wrinkly
02:32:40.440
skin, you become less physically attractive as you get older.
02:32:44.460
So, and they have done studies on this, though.
02:32:47.040
Women typically, like, as women age, they tend to find men, like, one or two years older
02:32:55.640
And then, but for men, it's, like, pretty much stagnant, like, 20, 21, 21, like, even
02:33:02.640
into men being 40, 50, like, that's the most physically attractive age.
02:33:10.520
But, but what I found was, like you said, it, I think that I was thinking, oh, my gosh,
02:33:26.200
It was, I didn't realize that he had gotten out of a big relationship.
02:33:38.020
When Matt and I started dating, I was 22, and he was 34.
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And I was actually coming on to him really strong.
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And at first, he was like, oh, is she a little too young?
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But then, yeah, he got to know me and realized, oh, for 22, she's actually mature.
02:34:03.460
And it seemed kind of like it was sort of a similar thing, because he had just been seeing
02:34:07.820
someone who was about his age, and she was, like, as far as he said, she was, like, kind
02:34:23.700
But statistically, people marry and date within three years of their age.
02:34:32.700
It kind of grossed me out, this one study, that they, like, they connected.
02:34:36.000
So, they showed pictures of women of different ages to different men.
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And their brains reacted most to women who were, like, 16.
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I couldn't quote it, and, I mean, maybe I'll look it up.
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I think, like, honestly, when I was, like, 16, I think my dad told me about it.
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Like, I'm trying to think where I was going with this.
02:35:11.500
Like, as I mentioned, like, would I date someone who's 19, 20, 21?
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But I'm not, like, hanging out at fucking college parties trying to meet.
02:35:23.520
But, if some fucking batty 21-year-old DMs me, I'm not going to say.
02:35:37.420
This is a purely personal standpoint, but I feel that if a man who, I think my cutoff
02:35:47.240
is probably, like, 25, 26, which is still pretty.
02:35:53.000
But if a man who's 25 or 26 years old, knowing my age, reaches out to me, that raises some
02:36:00.980
And I would like to consider myself mature for my age.
02:36:04.160
I don't want to blatantly say that, because I don't know.
02:36:07.440
But, like, even with the, oh, like, well, she's the same maturity level, I would still
02:36:12.140
view it as kind of concerning, just life experience-wise, almost.
02:36:18.440
It's kind of like in those adult videos, they go, 19-year-old, 18, just turned 18.
02:36:29.940
I don't think they're going out of their way for that one sole reason.
02:36:33.560
But sometimes it can imply, and obviously this has to do with their personal history,
02:36:38.820
that they, as an older man, can't, like, maybe girls their age know better, almost.
02:36:50.160
Like, younger women are better looking, lower body count, less baggage, and this is a biological
02:36:59.640
So, like, for example, I mean, obviously we're using, like,
02:37:03.180
You know, women who are 25 are still, you know, even into their late 20s are still very fertile.
02:37:09.640
However, like, say you're a guy who's in his late 30s and you want to have kids.
02:37:16.060
Once you hit 35 as a woman, you can still have kids, but you're starting to get into high-risk
02:37:28.120
As a guy, let's say you want to have kids, you want to have a family, and you want to,
02:37:35.380
A woman, say you're 39, dating a woman your age is not the best bet when it comes to fertility.
02:37:42.100
If you're 39 and you're going to date a 38-year-old, okay, by the time you guys get married,
02:37:53.200
Like, a guy who's in his late 30s is probably going to want to try to date, like, a woman who's 29, 28.
02:38:03.240
Yeah, like, if the woman can't, then are they like, you know what, like, I want a family with you,
02:38:09.140
but let's find a woman that, like, how do they feel about that?
02:38:13.740
If he wants to have kids, then they just find...
02:38:15.560
Then it's probably just, it's probably best for you, too, to not get involved with him,
02:38:19.200
because he, the prospects of long-term relationship with someone who wants kids is...
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...is being quiet and modest about her fitness.
02:38:30.160
She's an ASM certified trainer, completed an eight-day fast, no food, with me that reset her hormones,
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Check the whatever egg, I sent transformations there.
02:38:45.760
I didn't end up competing, because I'm not going to trauma dump Brian, don't worry,
02:38:50.000
but I just had a lot of family things go on, and I, like, stopped my prep, like, right when I was about to,
02:39:04.740
It was bikini, yeah, that I was prepping for, yeah.
02:39:08.000
I'm curious about the eight-day fast that reset your hormones.
02:39:13.860
I mean, basically, just whenever you fast, it, I mean, your body is, like, completely resetting itself.
02:39:25.180
So, you don't, like, deplete your nutrients, but, yeah.
02:39:43.940
I think he, his main concern was that he had an ulcer in his stomach, and I think it fixed it.
02:39:50.840
Let's just bring it back to the conversation we were having.
02:39:52.840
So, I mean, you were mentioning something about, you know, what does someone who's younger,
02:39:59.460
say, someone who's 21, have in common with someone who's, for example, 31?
02:40:03.300
But, I mean, I would argue that having things in common with someone is very low on the totem pole of what makes you attracted to somebody.
02:40:13.880
It's a pause, like, if, oh, we like the same music, but, like, how, that's not going to be the primary attraction trigger for anybody,
02:40:22.740
because I'm sure for every single girl here, you've known a guy who you have tons of shit in common with, but you would never date him.
02:40:30.940
So, this idea that commonality or having things in common is really important, like, I don't care if my girlfriend, if she likes the same music as me, cool, I guess,
02:40:43.200
but it's a very, very low priority on the totem pole to the point of being kind of so negligent.
02:40:54.000
Sorry, I think that I worded it wrong, for lack of better words.
02:40:58.720
I don't think that having things in common in general is important, but, obviously, age gaps is a super nuanced topic, like, there's a lot of opinions on it.
02:41:09.340
But, for lack of better words, relatability, I feel like, would apply to, like, a general census.
02:41:15.460
Like, me personally, I would like, this is a random general example.
02:41:20.280
I would like to date somebody who has a similar job to me.
02:41:25.100
That's a different area of life, but I feel like there's just some things that are kind of non-negotiable, like, you'd want to date someone with the same morals, you know, stuff like that.
02:41:33.500
I feel like it's more on that tier list, and, obviously, it depends for every person, but.
02:41:40.400
Well, yeah, I mean, but I could point out, for example, like, there are women who are 21, for example, that don't go to bars, don't go to clubs, they're not really drinking, they don't really party.
02:41:50.280
I don't drink, I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I don't do drugs, not interested in any of that shit.
02:41:55.660
There's plenty of women who are 30 that still go to fucking raves, and they're still out, they're fucking alcoholics, and they're drinking every single weekend, and they're clubbing and partying and hooking up.
02:42:05.660
So, I mean, you can find people across various age groups that align with you in terms of whether it's interest, whether it's relatability.
02:42:17.680
I would relate much more to a girl who's, say, 21, who doesn't go to bars, doesn't go to clubs, doesn't drink, doesn't party, doesn't do drugs, than a girl who's 31, who's closer to my age, who still fucking goes to raves, and parties, and drinks, and does drugs.
02:42:37.680
I actually think you swayed my opinion on this.
02:42:40.720
I would agree with you more, but I would just, like, I think that, sorry.
02:42:46.520
Yeah, I know, but I just think I would definitely still, like, if I see with no context around it, a 34-year-old man and a 19-year-old girl, I'm going to be concerned right off the bat.
02:43:00.060
I mean, like, how is a 34-year-old man and a 19-year-old girl going to have, like, the same, like, you know, like, they're not even going to be into the same things.
02:43:10.140
I mean, I understand how they can get along or whatever, maybe, like, you're saying, but.
02:43:21.220
It's cute, but I mean, like, what if, you know.
02:43:24.780
Okay, well, also, you're, you know, I mean, I'm assuming, like, you know, like, you have money and whatnot, so maybe you can take care of whatever, but do you feel like, maybe, like, what if she's in a different stage of life than you?
02:43:37.700
Like, you have an established career, right, and she is, you know, just her, she's in her sophomore year of college.
02:43:44.780
Like, you don't feel like that different stage of life kind of makes a difference for you?
02:43:50.540
Like, obviously, I know a lot of girls who are in college, like, especially, I don't know if you guys are, sorry, got a motorcycle passing by, super loud.
02:44:01.140
A lot of girls who are in college, not all of them, but, like, a fair amount of them, especially here.
02:44:10.020
So a lot of girls, for example, who are in college, they like to go out on the weekends, party, go to clubbing.
02:44:14.760
And that type of girl probably ain't it for me.
02:44:17.100
Like, I'm not really interested in that kind of girl, but there's plenty of girls who are in college who are probably a little more studious.
02:44:23.120
They aren't really into partying, not really into that whole thing.
02:44:27.400
But that's kind of, like, not what I was getting at.
02:44:32.900
Like, what if, yeah, and maybe you're more ready because you're 34, right?
02:44:37.100
Again, I'm not at college parties trolling, like, trying to pick up chicks.
02:44:39.840
But, like, again, like, if it happened to be, like, you know, if I have, and I haven't been on dating apps in over a year,
02:44:45.980
but if I was on a dating app and, like, she, her age setting, like, we matched on a dating app, cool.
02:45:00.740
But it's not like I'm, like, really, like, targeting this specific age group.
02:45:08.620
Like, most, the vast majority of the women I've dated in the past, say, most of them, I'd say, are around my age.
02:45:18.200
And actually, quite a few of them have been older than me.
02:45:21.060
You could also be at different stages of life, but, like, have commonality in, like, where, like, what you want in someone.
02:45:27.240
Like, think about the 19-year-olds that are with 50-year-old sugar daddies.
02:45:34.300
And, like, Leonardo DiCaprio and, like, his 20-years-old.
02:45:37.620
They're not going to end up together and marry each other and have babies together.
02:45:41.780
I mean, yeah, yeah, there are those exceptions.
02:45:45.060
How many 19-year-old girls, though, would, like, be 100-fucking-percent down to get with, like, a male celebrity who's in his 30s?
02:46:07.700
I mean, I feel like we're talking, I mean, like, I would help that this podcast is about, like, you know, like, because people who watch this, they're not all celebrities.
02:46:20.180
I was going to say, I think there's plenty of women who are mature enough at a young age who are ready to get married, who are ready to have kids, who don't have a high body count.
02:46:31.240
I know plenty of people even in college that got engaged to people that were maybe older and graduated, 28, 29.
02:46:36.700
But just because they're younger doesn't mean they're not mentally or physically ready for any of those life experiences.
02:46:46.060
I would actually argue, like, men have a little longer period of time to get their life figured out because of, like, childbirth, that sort of stuff.
02:46:56.580
So I actually think the perfect time for a girl to, like, try to lock in a long-term partner is actually when you're young.
02:47:05.920
Like, you have your, you are at your strongest, let's say, negotiating position between the ages of, like, let's say, 18 to 25.
02:47:14.220
You can lock down, like, pretty much the best partner then.
02:47:19.640
So a lot, and what happens is a lot of women focus career, and hey, I'm, I think career is fine.
02:47:29.780
When you're between the ages of 19 to 25 as a woman, you can find your most optimal partner at that point.
02:47:35.660
Because, like Brian said, if you're chasing your career and you're 26, 27, 28, then a man, as you're getting older, is not going to want to marry you as much the older that you get.
02:47:44.780
It's crazy how you guys, like, are, like, anti-sex or, like, anti-prostitution or whatever, but yet this is giving the same kind of energy.
02:47:53.760
I mean, she has a certain value at this age, and she's, like, more, like, sellable to a better man.
02:48:06.040
But, I mean, you're trying to pigeonhole, like, what we're saying here.
02:48:09.080
But, like, if we can look at things realistically, people have a value on the dating marketplace.
02:48:16.100
And when I say value, it's not your value as a human being.
02:48:22.120
But in terms of your value on the relationship marketplace, the marriage marketplace, the sexual marketplace,
02:48:30.980
But the reality is, like, people have value on the marketplace.
02:48:37.220
Now, and this is a way to, this isn't a way to diminish people and to minimize people,
02:48:42.380
but it's just a way to articulate in an analytical sort of way, okay, how are things going to play out on the dating marketplace?
02:48:56.500
And we tend to try to match up with, you know, we try to get the best we can.
02:49:04.660
Perhaps you object to this sort of commodification.
02:49:13.260
Is this, like, you think this is, like, a gotcha?
02:49:14.520
Oh, my God, Brian, he's, it's a pretty common term.
02:49:18.860
Okay, are you familiar with the sexual marketplace?
02:49:28.660
Which, by the way, I, I disavow your use of a rather sexist term.
02:49:40.500
You're putting, you are putting, you're attaching someone's gender to, like, I just, you're trying
02:49:48.840
to diminish what I'm saying by saying mansplain.
02:49:53.820
No, because I'm honestly not, like, the kind of girl who, like, I have no issues with men.
02:50:07.560
Anyways, yeah, so, no, I mean, the thing with the sexual marketplace that bothers me is that
02:50:14.600
And the issue with, like, red pill in general for me as someone who's, like, leaning more
02:50:18.900
towards blue pill, although I do agree with some of your points, is that it's so black
02:50:27.700
I mean, people in general, they're not getting married these days at 19 years old.
02:50:32.580
And, I mean, it's kind of the same concept of, like, when you're 19, like, do you really
02:50:38.800
Like, I, my first, my six-year relationship that I was talking about, I was 17 when we
02:50:44.920
We could have gotten married, but I chose not to because I felt like I, I kind of outgrew
02:50:50.880
And if we had gotten married at 18, for example, we probably would have ended up divorced.
02:50:56.840
I'm not saying, like, get married immediately at 18.
02:50:59.380
But what I am saying is, like, I would say that you are in your peak years between, say,
02:51:07.040
Do you think it'd be easier for, say, like, a 48-year-old woman to find someone on the
02:51:16.600
I mean, I'm just saying that, like, I think that everybody, men and women, should, like,
02:51:20.420
get some experience before they jump into getting married.
02:51:23.340
No one's saying that they shouldn't, I don't think.
02:51:25.940
I think that he's trying to say that, and sorry, not to put words in your mouth, but
02:51:29.980
I think it's more that within your 20s, within your 20s, I feel like that's realistically
02:51:37.620
Because, like, when I'm, like, you're the most valuable, but, like, to who?
02:51:43.060
If you get, sorry, if you get married later in life, even if it's just somebody who is also
02:51:49.820
getting married on later in life, it's, I want to say less likely to work, if it was
02:51:57.500
more likely to work out, it would be due to lack of other options for both parties.
02:52:02.300
Well, like, here's a common thing you hear, for example, is, like, and, look, I'm, and
02:52:07.920
I don't have an issue with women, like, I think it's great that the, that we can, what's,
02:52:15.580
what's the right term here, that we can, and I'm using this in the most charitable
02:52:20.400
sense, that we can exploit the genius and intellect of women to, for example, I think
02:52:25.960
it's wonderful that women are going into STEM and researching cancer, and I think we
02:52:31.040
need to, we need to put as much manpower, no pun, like, woman power, to trying to solve
02:52:38.160
some of the most challenging problems that we face in society, cancer research, you know,
02:52:42.400
tackling certain illnesses, diseases, et cetera.
02:52:47.560
I think it's wonderful to have women in the workforce.
02:52:49.380
However, what you do have is a lot of women who, throughout their 20s, focus on their career,
02:52:54.540
get into their 30s, and they're like, wow, this really isn't particularly fulfilling.
02:52:58.120
I'd really prefer, I'd really like to have a family and kids, but once you get to your
02:53:02.760
mid-30s, it does become, I'd say for, even for both men and women, but perhaps more so
02:53:07.780
for women, it becomes a bit more difficult to find a partner.
02:53:10.500
And so, and the other thing you have is, you'll also have, in addition to the career
02:53:15.300
component, you'll have women who, they'll spend their 20s just, like, fucking a bunch
02:53:19.460
of dudes, casual sex, and then they get to the finish line, or maybe not the finish line,
02:53:25.280
but they get to their 30s, oh, I want a husband, I want to have kids.
02:53:29.360
I have a bunch of baggage from, like, fucking all these dudes.
02:53:32.380
My body count's high, maybe I picked up herpes on the way.
02:53:36.900
Okay, see, so the STD thing I can actually get on, like, that's my big thing with body
02:53:41.060
Well, that's, that's the, that's another thing with body count, the more sexual partners
02:53:44.140
you have, the more, the greater likelihood to get an STD.
02:53:47.080
So, you don't think that a woman loses value in areas like wisdom, career, et cetera, but
02:53:56.220
Like, so, we're talking about how a woman loses value as they, um, age.
02:54:07.060
Let, let, let me, okay, when I'm, when I'm 50 years old, I think I will have less value
02:54:14.480
So, we're just exclusively speaking about the dating scene, not necessarily other walks
02:54:27.820
I think, I think biologically, obviously, it's true that as you age, you're, uh.
02:54:32.320
But, for example, here, here's another example, um, if, if I just, tomorrow, woke up 300 pounds
02:54:39.620
heavier and I was obese, my value in the dating marketplace, it would be much harder
02:54:44.760
for me to attract women, therefore, my value on the marketplace has been diminished.
02:54:53.820
But, I think the problem that most people have with the conversation is they're not viewing
02:54:57.320
it from, like, a completely cornered off perspective like that.
02:55:00.780
They're viewing it like, oh, well, a woman loses value in all walks of life.
02:55:08.460
But, like, in terms of being attractive to the opposite sex.
02:55:13.920
Do you feel like the state of our economy kind of contributes to that?
02:55:20.180
Oh, well, I mean, certainly it's the case that for, I'd say, most people, uh, to get by
02:55:28.360
So, I mean, that we can go back in time and say, well, and again, I think it's wonderful
02:55:33.660
that we've, we can now, and again, I'm using this word in a, the most charitable sense,
02:55:38.660
we can now exploit women's brilliance and intelligence, uh, in the workforce.
02:55:43.160
However, there are certain economic ramifications to essentially doubling the labor pool.
02:55:49.000
And in the past, you could, uh, one income could support a household.
02:55:54.980
That's really not, some people can still do it, but it's really no longer the case.
02:56:01.740
And again, I think it's wonderful that if you're a woman and you want to focus on your
02:56:08.020
However, there are certain economic realities when you double the labor pool.
02:56:15.160
Actually, I want to circle back to what me and you were talking about when I was like, oh,
02:56:22.860
Um, so what I was going to say, I think after I said, I forget what I said at this point,
02:56:28.280
but, um, was that I feel like you're, I felt like you were kind of like blaming women
02:56:35.200
for like the lack of like children being born and like families.
02:56:37.980
And I don't think it's necessarily, it's like not women or men.
02:56:41.880
I mean, even if you are with your partner, like you're, you know, you're a two person
02:56:45.920
household, you don't, it's, it's hard to have a kid.
02:56:48.880
I mean, and with, with, with women in work, I mean, a lot of states don't support, like,
02:56:56.740
At least I live in California where they do have like paid leave for what, like six weeks,
02:57:01.960
So I think that maybe as a, you know, I'm a, I'm central left and you're probably right.
02:57:08.740
I think maybe we can agree on this, that like there needs to be more policy on, on family.
02:57:13.740
I think there should be more policy put in place for a longer term maternity leave because
02:57:17.600
I think that would incentivize women to have children more.
02:57:20.900
And I also think it's very crucial for women to be at home with their kids for the, for
02:57:25.160
a long portion, honestly, of, of the baby's lives, because that's a huge developmental stage
02:57:31.180
And I also think, you know, look at the childcare industry and how that plays into, you know,
02:57:35.980
women can only be at home with their kid for six weeks.
02:57:38.260
And then I need you to get back in the corporate world to continue making money.
02:57:45.160
So I'm, I'm, I'm Romanian, like my mom was born in Romania.
02:57:49.000
I have, most of my family is in Romania and in Romania, you get three years paid.
02:57:59.340
In society, is it the corporation's job to fund you being able to go home and be with your
02:58:09.200
The EU, I mean, Romania is part of the European Union.
02:58:11.140
So then it would be the taxpayer's job in America to be able to uphold the family.
02:58:15.240
See, but then I think that's up to the family to be able to raise and support their child.
02:58:19.100
Unfortunately, we don't live in that kind of economy though.
02:58:23.540
I mean, our country spends so much money on military, on, on everything else.
02:58:26.940
And you think they could spend on families, right?
02:58:29.740
There is child support and there is help out there federally for parents, but it also,
02:58:34.200
it shouldn't be the government and the taxpayer's number one priority.
02:58:37.440
Like it's our job to give money just because you had a kid.
02:58:42.100
If you have a kid, I mean, it's your job to support.
02:58:44.540
And I also think that in America, we have a materialism problem where people are opulent
02:58:49.000
and spending money on things and have priorities.
02:58:54.060
But the thing is, is you're saying, well, you know, the government needs to help pay for
02:58:57.060
kids and support kids and, you know, parents need help.
02:59:00.680
When in reality, I just think there's a lot of people who have skewed priorities and don't
02:59:06.040
So you think materialism is the reason why people aren't having kids?
02:59:12.700
People would rather pay for like a Louis Vuitton than have a child.
02:59:17.120
No, what I'm saying is like, you said that people can't afford to have children because
02:59:22.820
But a lot of those people that can't afford children can afford a lot of other things
02:59:30.060
Like they don't put their family above other things.
02:59:33.840
Like I actually looked up the other day, I was like, how cool would it be if like family
02:59:38.020
vacations were like really like society did things were like, hey, we're having a community
02:59:42.240
fair where taxpayers were like, I mean, I would chip in my tax dollars.
02:59:45.660
I know maybe not everybody, but I'd be like, you know what?
02:59:48.620
Like families are going out there making memories.
02:59:50.320
Like I remember I went on a family, I went on family vacations as an adult because we
02:59:55.500
And I kid you not, it was so healing seeing my family celebrating.
03:00:01.560
And, and how cool would that be to like give that to somebody else?
03:00:05.120
Like when they're young, like that maybe society would value family more than like, oh, I have
03:00:11.040
So I have to support my family rather than like, we got, got a little nugget from, you know,
03:00:15.440
from the block, like, you know, society in the neighborhood.
03:00:18.500
And I think, I think there needs to be, I think that what's going to happen is people
03:00:23.380
are going to get, we as a culture could get really tired of this capitalism thing.
03:00:30.140
So would you be instead pro-socialism and the government have more control?
03:00:33.740
No, I think that there needs to be some sort of balance, like, like maybe work-life balance
03:00:39.160
Like you, like you said, with the, with the maternity leave, give it longer and then give
03:00:46.300
It's, it's, it's, do you think Europe is like 100% socialist?
03:00:49.160
I mean, I come from a family where like my mom was raised in communism.
03:00:54.780
Finland, I don't know their economic system, but I heard that they do.
03:00:58.340
There are some Nordic countries that are more socialist.
03:01:00.340
And I mean, a lot of people like to reference like healthcare industries, like having free
03:01:03.580
healthcare for everybody, which wouldn't be sustainable in the United States.
03:01:06.880
But I mean, okay, look at, you're talking about opportunity.
03:01:10.640
You're wanting free things from the government that comes at a cost of, you know, if the
03:01:15.300
government is going to utilize your tax dollars to then continue to pay for this lifestyle
03:01:20.160
to uphold, why can't Americans, I mean, we live in the freest country to continue to
03:01:26.120
utilize the opportunity that is given to us under our constitution to go out and make
03:01:31.020
I mean, you can start a podcast, you can have an OnlyFans, you can now make money on Instagram.
03:01:35.620
There's really no excuse for anybody to say they can't.
03:01:38.520
I mean, wouldn't you rather like our tax dollars go to like supporting families as opposed to
03:01:53.220
But the point that I'm making is, is that is legal and available in America.
03:01:59.200
I think there's other ways that are way more glorifying to make money that isn't selling
03:02:04.180
Well, the average person, I mean, isn't able to like become a drop shipper or like become
03:02:10.340
I mean, if we were all influencers, like where would, who's going to serve your coffee?
03:02:16.500
I mean, there needs to be like some kind of like threshold for people who do like.
03:02:25.820
Obviously, there's a food chain, but just because those people that serve coffee exist
03:02:30.920
doesn't mean that you should be like, oh, I should just be able to serve coffee and not
03:02:35.640
try to, I don't know, be an entrepreneur or find ways to get more money.
03:02:38.700
I don't think anybody who serves coffee, like sits there and is like, I'm just going to
03:02:44.260
I know people who work in factories or people who work at McDonald's.
03:02:48.600
Like you think your average McDonald's worker shouldn't be allowed to like live or have
03:02:52.960
Well, I know a barista that is in her thirties.
03:03:00.820
Ladies, no man wants a relationship with someone with a high body count.
03:03:04.000
Example, the one village bicycle in my hometown is 36, has 500 plus body count, five different
03:03:25.980
And then we have, once again, Brian, I've been watching since January.
03:03:32.220
Good to hear you've been watching for such a long time, man.
03:03:34.440
The culture in the South is still pretty traditional.
03:03:50.340
I think I'm the year before, the year after millennial.
03:04:00.540
I think 96, 97 is the cusp of Gen Z, millennial.
03:04:11.360
I think that it's just a larger display of people who are more.
03:04:20.460
I think that social media brings out a lot of people who are more morally loose,
03:04:28.200
But I think that if you actually, like, just scientifically took that entire generation
03:04:32.680
and looked, a lot more would be more traditional or conservative than you would expect.
03:04:39.220
Actually, it's very polarized, is what I should say.
03:04:44.780
Well, I think there's crazy people I've ever heard.
03:04:53.080
But there's some super base people who are Gen Z, and then there's a lot of crazy shit
03:05:03.800
I wonder what the generation after Gen Z will be called.
03:05:19.480
Oh, that's going to be – maybe they've got to skip over that.
03:05:24.920
We have – and we need to finish on a couple of conversational threads.
03:05:47.920
Yeah, like prepping for something that happens.
03:06:00.920
Personally, if you're prepping for the zombie apocalypse, I'm going to pass.
03:06:04.920
I feel like that's a certain level of – it depends whether it's interest or delusion.
03:06:13.700
Wait, but what if he's like – he's really wealthy, so it's just like he's accounting
03:06:19.020
How wealthy are we talking that you just casually have a bunker?
03:06:26.640
I feel like a bunker is a couple million dollars.
03:06:31.820
If you're going to get a bunker, you're going to get a good one, right?
03:06:37.560
It's less about social economy and more about inflation plus corporations maximizing profit.
03:06:43.660
There are a lot of psyops to keep money flowing and people single.
03:06:47.160
I don't ever do this, but I might actually make an insta and shot my shot at area.
03:07:22.900
It seems like ex-military or maybe even, or yeah, maybe current military.
03:07:28.640
I mean, sure, if you wake up every day and you're like, oh my God, the apocalypse is coming,
03:07:37.880
Let's say he doesn't really talk about it much, but it's clear that he's got a...
03:07:45.340
Don't you want a guy who's got a fucking plan like that?
03:07:56.900
You know at hotels on the front door, there's like, here's the escape route in the case of
03:08:03.360
You know what should be, I think the biggest turn-on for a woman should be if your boyfriend
03:08:12.660
I like it when they have to be like facing the door.
03:08:18.060
Oh, when they sleep on the side close to the door?
03:08:20.760
Anytime me and my dad were somewhere together, he had to have a view of the door in case anyone...
03:08:29.840
I can't say on the internet what he does for a living.
03:08:47.120
Also, chat going off, calling me a simp for supporting my boo-ballah-ha-ha.
03:09:03.980
Okay, we'll come back to the prepper thing really quick.
03:09:06.400
What's your ideal woman, age, height, personality, job?
03:09:10.780
I have a list, actually, of what exactly my type is.
03:09:22.940
While I'm trying to pull this up, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
03:09:38.120
The Mad Teabagger, think for the resub tier one.
03:10:02.960
When it comes to job, although I do say that I like it if she's done at least three years
03:10:19.900
No, I mean, that's me just kind of joking around.
03:10:25.540
I mean, I kind of want to wait until she's back to say this, but...
03:10:55.600
It's weird because I like smart women who are kind of like nerdy, but also...
03:11:01.700
There is something kind of hot about, like, someone who's stupid.
03:11:07.140
Like, not stupid in the way they're going to fuck your life up because they're so stupid,
03:11:13.640
Because people who are really intelligent can sometimes be neurotic.
03:11:25.100
Like, I mean, it's a cartoon, but I was like, she seemed funny, nice, but, like...
03:11:36.880
Look, I think women who are very intelligent, I think that's attractive, too.
03:11:41.920
But in the same way that you can like a woman with blonde hair and a woman with brown hair.
03:11:48.420
You know, there's something to say about, like, someone who's simple, you know?
03:12:00.340
If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one.
03:12:10.500
If I can bring full kit to the deathmatch, easy brazy, I'm still confident hand-to-hand,
03:12:32.300
My triceps, they're big, but they hold a lot of my fat, so they're not very...
03:12:54.640
It's actually the R and the K, you don't even really pronounce it.
03:13:38.140
We were at the beach the other day, and this guy had...
03:13:46.960
We asked if he knew who it was, and he said no.
03:13:49.420
Like, all the way across, all the way down his sternum.
03:13:54.820
I think he just said that he asked for something, like an angel.
03:14:30.840
So you just walked up to him, and you're like, oh, this is...
03:14:36.680
So we walk up to him, and I just go, I have to ask you something.
03:14:45.440
He was weirded out that a random chick came up to him, which...
03:14:53.140
Oh, and he just has to, like, live with that knowledge.
03:14:59.100
Did he tell you if someone has told him that before?
03:15:05.680
It must have been a relatively new tattoo, but...
03:15:09.200
Oh, well, hey, it's not the worst tattoo to have, I guess.
03:15:12.720
I guess most people wouldn't know who it was off of a glance, so...
03:15:15.680
Just to finish this one from Mr. McCarthy, he's asking, like, what's my type?
03:15:22.700
I mean, look, I do have a slight preference for short women, but...
03:16:38.120
Do you guys feel like being a feminist is anti-man?
03:16:47.280
But, I mean, like, if it wasn't for feminists, like, you wouldn't be able to vote.
03:16:52.040
A lot of the freedoms that we have today, as women, you have to give up to feminists.
03:17:08.500
There's a certain part of a group of feminists that don't believe that sex work is, like,
03:17:38.860
Look, but just to complete this point on the...
03:17:43.860
I think it's a shame that people can be shamed.
03:17:48.620
It's a shame, like, if men are shamed for their genitalia, and I don't think women should
03:17:55.800
If you were born that way, because, listen, there's 10,000 women a year are getting labiaplasty.
03:18:16.580
They just, like, they're just happy to be there.
03:18:20.380
But there are definitely, like, there are some guys who perhaps...
03:18:25.020
Some guys think if a woman has large labia that it means that she's had a lot of sexual
03:18:39.680
There are some men and women who will, like, throw out, like, oh, roast beef, beef curtains,
03:18:55.240
We should be shaming people for the way they were born.
03:18:57.960
In the same way we shouldn't shame men if they're lacking in the bulge.
03:19:01.740
I think it's not, you know, you got this big dick energy, small dick energy shit.
03:19:18.960
Actually, so I heard that men don't get enough compliments, so now I go out of my way to
03:19:43.460
There's some other stuff, too, but we'll move on.
03:19:59.840
I'll go a little bit more into depth on, like, the no plastic surgery thing.
03:20:02.920
This is also, I also prefer, like, minimal makeup or no makeup at all.
03:20:07.520
When it comes to plastic surgery, some guys disagree with me on this.
03:20:11.980
But for example, and I'll go bullet point on this, breast implants.
03:20:16.700
I would prefer a woman who, let's say she had small breasts or they were uneven or lopsided,
03:20:25.320
I would prefer a woman who had small breasts or totally flat over fake tits.
03:20:32.580
I'd prefer her how she was, even if she was totally flat.
03:20:39.280
I would prefer a girl who had a little bit of belly fat over a girl who had that lipo belly.
03:20:44.940
I think the lipo belly, it looks really uncanny.
03:20:49.640
I knew a girl who actually, like, was that really fit?
03:20:54.920
Most people, like, if you bend over a little bit, unless, like, you're a genetic phenom like her over here.
03:21:01.760
If you bend over, like, you're going to have a little bit of, like, a little chub, you know?
03:21:05.980
So I would prefer a girl who has a little bit of belly fat, a little chub over the lipo belly.
03:21:14.560
I'd prefer a girl who has a small upper lip than the fake lip.
03:21:18.860
And then the other one, BBL, I'd prefer a girl who's just totally flat, but over BBL.
03:21:30.560
No, I did a speech class in college, and I did this research, and literally BBLs are the absolute worst fucking plastic.
03:21:43.180
I don't want to say it's not difficult, but almost anybody can achieve a better body just by going to the gym.
03:21:51.160
It's, like, crazy the amount of excuses you hear from people who don't work out.
03:21:59.280
Women want these unrealistic beauty standards, and I think men tend to gawk after that because of the corn industry, because they see these super fake women and think that that's what they want, when in reality, they're way more physically attracted to a natural-looking woman.
03:22:17.040
You know what's crazy is that there's all these women with BBLs, but, like, for example, on TikTok, I see most men, like, dying over, like, for example, Ana de Armas.
03:22:31.040
And she's just, like, she just looks completely natural.
03:22:34.240
And she's a very pretty girl, but she looks, like, almost, like, an attainable beauty.
03:22:40.940
But there's also those guys who, like, die over Kylie Jenner, you know?
03:22:44.680
Which is, honestly, but it's probably the type of men that you wouldn't associate yourself with, right?
03:22:49.580
And the American beauty standard's always changing.
03:22:51.580
Like, at first, 2008, it was be a Victoria's Secret model, stick thin, and then it went to curvy hips, and now everyone's on ozempic, poisoning themselves to look skinny again.
03:23:00.780
And so, it's, like, as women, why don't we just embrace our natural femininity and being natural and being beautiful in our own selves instead of allowing social media, allowing the fake influencer culture, and allowing even sometimes men to change the way that we look for ourselves when you're really not pleasing yourself at all.
03:23:22.060
I saw this Twitter post, and it was a picture of me and a picture of another girl who was, for lack of better words, again, chunky-ish.
03:23:30.720
Like, it was considered, like, thick, but in my opinion, it was a little bigger.
03:23:34.400
And everybody in the comments, it was, like, choose one, you know what I mean?
03:23:39.180
And everyone in the comments chose the more thick woman because that account had a certain demographic versus there was another account that posted the same thing.
03:23:50.820
That everybody was on my side because it was a different demographic.
03:24:02.580
Beauty for sure is objective, and I do think there's a scale.
03:24:14.020
And Playboy, when I was getting a lot of plastic surgery, I was very obsessed with it.
03:24:17.240
I was like, I want my face to look like the golden ratio.
03:24:19.520
And I would just sit there, and then I would go to the dance club to try to earn the money to go back to the...
03:24:35.620
Is your current face now pretty comparable to how it was?
03:24:44.100
So, I was like, okay, when I discovered that I could just earn money and change my whole face, I was like, great.
03:24:50.300
And then when you're in, you know, modeling, you're like, everyone's doing it.
03:24:56.900
Like, I would say on my face alone, I had spent about $55,000 over my entire, like, course of my...
03:25:04.780
I would get my lips so big because I wanted to be like, you know, Angelina Jolie.
03:25:12.820
I would get my teeth, you know, the teeth, which I'm okay with the teeth.
03:25:19.580
I feel like out of all my purchases, that was okay because that really helped my confidence.
03:25:27.080
I said, I want to have a pretty face because I never felt like I had one.
03:25:29.580
So, I paid, you know, but then it turned into, like, I look at old pictures of myself and I'm like, who is that?
03:25:35.640
Like, and I was like, I'm so glad I, like, let it, like, go down.
03:25:39.500
And I'm like, okay, maybe I'll get a little Botox here and there if I feel like it's kind
03:25:44.160
of getting too much, but I don't, will never go to the extent...
03:25:49.240
Would you say that how you look now is fairly different or is it pretty minimal?
03:25:54.140
It's still different than what I looked like before.
03:25:56.200
But is it, I mean, is it a pretty minimal change or is it pretty substantial?
03:26:13.660
I do, I wish I could, I wish I could show you on my phone, like, what it looked like.
03:26:18.580
There was one picture I had and I, if I could find it, I don't know if we have the time,
03:26:26.920
I would keep getting it filled because I had a hump in my nose and I remember I had, everyone
03:26:30.920
be like, you have a five head and I would always have, like, the lines.
03:26:34.360
I had five lines in my head and so I'd fill them and I filled and on my eyebrows, I tattooed
03:26:43.660
I ended up getting migraines from the filler right here and yeah, and then they took it
03:26:47.880
out and it went all the way after they took it out.
03:26:50.800
I was like, dang, I had crazy migraines for like two years.
03:26:54.060
So, I'll send you a picture though, I'll send, you'll see it.
03:26:58.140
Send it right now or do you have your phone on?
03:27:03.340
In any case, it's hard for me to compare, but I actually just like looking at you, I do think
03:27:07.080
you have, I mean, I don't know how much of it is the plastic surgery, I actually think
03:27:21.040
Oh, I was just going to say one thing about, like, body size and things like that.
03:27:26.020
Whenever I posed before and afters of, like, whenever I was, like, a little bit on the thicker
03:27:29.740
side to, like, where I am now or where I got to, which was a lot more, like, even fit
03:27:34.260
and, like, lean, I guess, than I am now, a lot of men would be, like, oh, I actually
03:27:43.060
And I'll just be, like, you know, I'll put another post and be, like, oh, the fact is
03:27:47.460
I feel so much better and healthier and stronger and agile and all these other things more.
03:27:52.740
But, yeah, I think it's just, like, a reminder, like, we have to do what feels good, like, for
03:28:09.540
You're making a lot of great points and have a great demeanor.
03:28:24.740
I think green flag overall, as long as it's not, like, your obsession.
03:28:34.960
I love to feel protected and know that my man is ready to save us.
03:28:53.420
I have no trouble meeting women every blank of my life.
03:28:58.900
You got to do the trigger, man, if you want the rating.
03:29:39.540
I'm telling you, I don't care what you've been told.
03:29:49.300
If you want to get a job, it does not mean anything.
03:30:10.780
The mission from speech or writing of word to words that are superfluous or able to be
03:30:29.140
He like didn't know how to spell women, so he just put WN.
03:30:32.960
It looks like he has 300 bodies from his profile.
03:30:39.660
He says, I'm a 48 year old, 20 plus girls, ask me out every day, ask the panel, would
03:30:51.520
Well, some of the girls kind of already touched on this, but would you date a guy who's 50 plus?
03:31:01.920
Um, maybe about 50 if just everything was so perfect and he had a lot of money or something.
03:31:11.100
But otherwise, I think 24 years difference is like a little bit much because then what
03:31:27.160
Realistically, like, not just hypothetically, like, realistically, like, no, he's still a
03:31:35.040
No, he's a gorgeous man, but he's old enough to be my father.
03:31:41.540
You'd fuck Brad Pitt, but you wouldn't date him?
03:31:48.220
I agree that he's very beautiful, but he is too old.
03:31:59.040
I feel like maybe, maybe entertain it for a second and flash a smile or whatever, but
03:32:22.020
Gene Wilder was like attractive as an older man.
03:32:31.660
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think I would date him.
03:32:42.780
I still just, I don't think I'd be able to get past the idea that they're old enough
03:32:52.640
I feel like I wouldn't sleep with somebody randomly, but hypothetically, if I were to,
03:32:59.380
my cap off would probably be like 38, like later 30s, right?
03:33:05.560
Extreme scenario where they're like a 10 out of 10 most gorgeous man in the world.
03:33:12.680
Let's get, try to wrap up on a few of the threads that we started before.
03:33:16.400
So, and then we'll try to wrap up here shortly, one hour later.
03:33:27.880
Last one for the night to make it an even $700.
03:33:35.880
I sent my fasting transformation to the whatever ink.
03:34:00.440
Puffy drunk tourists don't mean anything and for God's sake use the steamer labs link.
03:34:21.020
Another, uh, what about, like, turning around and then, like, the...
03:34:25.580
Well, like, you can tell me what pose next donation.
03:34:40.020
But for those who haven't heard the intro, YouTube takes a 30% cut.
03:34:44.460
So, if you donate $100, they're taking $30 of that.
03:34:50.400
You're just putting it into the pockets of woke YouTube.
03:34:54.360
So, uh, if you want more of your patronage to actually go towards me,
03:35:02.740
More of your donation, let's say, is actually going to support us.
03:35:21.520
You know, we just bought a new computer, like, two months ago.
03:35:24.800
Um, so, I'm still driving the same car I drove in 2013.
03:35:29.320
I'm wearing $5 t-shirts, flannels of that, you know, whatever.
03:35:48.220
Oh, yeah, I guess you guys have to rate me 1 to 10.
03:35:53.720
You don't have to, but if you want, you can rate me 1 to 10.
03:36:00.160
So, after the big labios matter, I'm going to give you a 9.
03:36:14.100
This might be a cop-out from everybody, but go ahead.
03:36:26.320
Well, since it was Matt who asked, I'll definitely rate you.
03:36:36.940
But I think I'm taking everything into account, like, subconsciously.
03:36:53.460
This wasn't at my worst, but this was at a point where I did...
03:36:56.680
Yeah, but there's something to be said about the focal length of cameras.
03:37:03.660
What's it called when you're taking a photo like this?
03:37:09.280
No, when the front-facing camera on your phone, it's, like, not gonna take a good photo of
03:37:13.820
your face, because the focal length is really close, so I'm not gonna use that.
03:37:25.940
No, but I swear I just saw it open right now, and now I'm too scared to go.
03:38:10.560
We have to react to a couple videos, too, here.
03:38:38.440
Uh, I sent my fasting transformation to 290 pounds.
03:38:52.580
Did you notice, like, a lot of difference with your fasting?
03:39:07.140
It's in the messages, though, which makes it kind of a little...
03:39:16.780
Just click on the post, his body transformation post.
03:39:20.260
I'm genuinely scared to go to the bathroom alone.
03:40:20.080
The lighting's a little different in all the photos, though, I will say.
03:40:22.980
What I don't like in these, like, workout supplement things, they are like, look at this
03:40:27.640
transformation in the fucking photos, like, different lighting and, like...
03:40:35.340
You have to take it in the exact same location, exact same lighting, exact same pose.
03:40:44.840
Like, it's scummy when these, like, people who are selling fucking workout programs are,
03:41:05.900
I want to try to loop this in as best as we can.
03:41:24.460
If I recall, though, you think it's weird, the age gap stuff.
03:41:32.160
Well, when it comes to, like, wanting a virgin and whatnot,
03:41:35.060
and I guess if it's too large of a gap, I think it's weird.
03:41:41.820
I forgot if this was in relation to the age gap stuff or the virgin stuff.
03:41:46.820
It might have been both, but at one point you used the word grooming.
03:41:58.140
I mean, grooming is interchangeable with, like, being manipulative.
03:42:06.160
Especially if you're 50-plus, dating a 20-year-old, 19-year-old, 21-year-old,
03:42:18.420
When you were a sugar baby, do you think you were monetarily manipulated
03:42:25.700
I actually felt that I was kind of more in control.
03:42:28.640
I was finessing them, honestly, when I was a sugar baby.
03:42:33.100
But that's a different dynamic than someone, like, marrying or, like, being serious with a...
03:42:38.900
Couldn't you make the argument that it's more predatory to...
03:42:52.400
Because, I don't know, I made it seem like I liked them when I really didn't.
03:43:04.280
There's a specific term for it, but it's evading me.
03:43:23.060
So, that they said, you have to make sure people over the age of X amount, you must
03:43:37.840
I think there's people who would argue that maybe I was taken advantage of.
03:43:41.140
I think maybe you would probably say that I, as a young woman, was taken advantage of,
03:43:50.660
I'm not going to agree or disagree with either.
03:43:58.320
But you said that you were with these men to get...
03:44:05.500
Valdev donated $100 from CPT Morgan Pose and fellas like Flannel Daddy says, get out, get
03:44:13.660
training hashtags, G-hashtag Hayley Strategic, okay, but for real, though, read this prompt.
03:44:18.980
The last chat, also, five to ten years is optimal age gap for a real build-a-life relationship.
03:44:24.760
I mean, it's hard to say what's optimal, but I don't know if there's...
03:44:42.940
I just think people make choices, and some people end up with people closer to their age.
03:44:47.420
Some people end up with people there's a bit more of an age gap.
03:45:13.860
I mean, you could actually make the argument that there's a lot more women who are...
03:45:22.520
I mean, these financial relationships, there's definitely a...
03:45:35.140
The men, they're spending all this money on women, oftentimes getting very little in return.
03:45:47.740
There may be some degree of manipulation involved.
03:45:57.420
But, I mean, I think there's quite a fair amount of women who are doing that sort of shit.
03:46:06.720
Yeah, and I would agree, but not as many as you would think.
03:46:15.480
Like what percentage of women do you think are doing that?
03:46:21.500
I would say, though, I would say that there's probably...
03:46:35.220
But I would say, actually, though, that there's scales to it.
03:46:40.980
For example, like how many women are like fleecing men out of their like serious fucking money?
03:46:50.480
However, like on a more lower scale, you have women who are engaging in like foodie calls where they go on a date with a guy just to get a free meal.
03:47:04.440
I think they did a study on that and they found it was like one third of women have done a foodie call.
03:47:12.340
Because that's accessible to just like any girl go on Tinder.
03:47:20.080
We've had girls on the show, like normal 19-year-old girls, college girls.
03:47:45.440
Girls have been abusing, I think, their femininity and using guys for the wrong reasons.
03:47:52.240
What I was talking about was like bigger than that.
03:47:56.560
I mean, I don't like to use guys, you know, like...
03:48:15.740
No, I admitted to having a pay pig who knows that he's my pay pig that I...
03:48:25.560
You could argue that you're taking advantage of, like...
03:48:27.140
There's a distinction between sex work and dating than in real life dating.
03:48:36.480
I always wanted to know the psychology of a pay pig.
03:48:40.640
Like, I tried to look up, you know, out of curiosity, the dominatrix thing.
03:48:52.620
I have never, like, felt like I used him for anything.
03:49:01.680
What you're talking about is women who are on Tinder with men their own age and their own
03:49:10.260
Yeah, but there's a huge distinction between the two.
03:49:12.420
I mean, there's sex work and then there's dating.
03:49:14.660
Like, one time when I was at the you-know-what...
03:49:25.820
But I don't get why, on one hand, you don't seem to object to, like, these men are just
03:49:34.760
You're saying you're not using him for anything, but you are using him for his money.
03:49:38.340
Say, if he didn't have money, you wouldn't be with him.
03:49:47.620
Hold on, but you said that the men consent to just sending you money...
03:49:57.380
Couldn't you make that same exact argument about a woman who's 21?
03:50:00.540
She's engaging in a consensual relationship with, say, a guy who's 35.
03:50:08.360
Because one's a profession, and one is a service, and one's not a service.
03:50:15.960
Like, a lot of these girls would rather see an 18-year-old do OnlyFans and do porn than
03:50:19.900
be in a loving, caring relationship with a guy who's 10 years her senior.
03:50:25.080
Blows my mind that so many women object to, like, age gap relationships.
03:50:29.140
Oh, he's 10 years older than you, even though you're an adult, and you can join the military
03:50:39.380
But if you're in a consensual, loving relationship with someone who's 10 years older than you,
03:50:49.860
That's why I was like, well, that's a little weird.
03:50:55.640
I mean, you're kind of walking back what you said, but I'm pretty sure earlier...
03:50:59.660
Earlier in the conversation, I'm sure you would have had an issue between 18 and 28.
03:51:12.000
But you said, okay, well, there was a virgin component, too.
03:51:18.580
So, I feel like we're talking about so many different things at once.
03:51:22.580
I'm talking about, like, my work as a, like, dominatrix, whatever you want to call it,
03:51:32.300
Maybe you think they are, but, I mean, someone who's experienced in both of these things are not comparable.
03:51:40.860
I mean, it's just shocking to me, though, is, like, how many people are ready to defend, like, a woman at 18 starting in OnlyFans, but, like, if she...
03:51:49.000
Well, okay, maybe not you, but, like, it's fine if a woman at 18 starts in OnlyFans, but if she wants to date a guy who's 30, oh, my God.
03:52:00.440
I mean, as long as the age of consent is there, I just think it's when a 50-year-old wants to fuck an 18-year-old virgin.
03:52:12.320
That's, like, or just, like, when I'd be with an 18, 20-year-old, that's, like, a huge difference between 10 years.
03:52:17.460
Hot take. I mean, hot take here. While, I mean, I don't... To me, it makes sense, like, a 50-year-old dating a 20-year-old.
03:52:30.260
Okay. I mean, why? Because that 50-year-old man...
03:52:35.220
If he can get it, like, here's the thing, very few 50-year-old men, as we just, I mean, we went around the table on this, like, most 50-year-old men are not going to be attractive to a woman who's 20 or 21.
03:52:47.100
If he can... If he's still in good shape, whatever, he's wealthy, and he can secure a relationship with someone younger, go for it.
03:52:55.620
I... Yeah, for me, it's not really, like, attraction. I feel like older guys, like, 50, sometimes are actually really attractive to me.
03:53:02.660
I think it's more just, like, when I'm 50, they're, like, about to die, possibly.
03:53:11.640
Sure, no, I get what you're saying. Like, let's say long-term relationship. Like, it actually is a fairly good argument, like, for a woman who's, like, wants a serious long-term relationship, wants marriage.
03:53:22.220
Like, if you're 21, and you're thinking about dating a 50-year-old by the... And if you want to have kids, like, he could be... Like, obviously, I think it's totally legit if you want to date someone around your age range so that you guys can grow together and, you know, like, that's actually probably a very strong argument to be made.
03:53:45.440
But, like, if that's what both the people want, maybe...
03:53:49.680
What if they have kids your age? That always creeped me out when I was... Especially when I was a stripper and whatnot. Like, when I would, you know, have sugar daddies who had daughters my age, I was like...
03:54:03.580
It's just disgusting, yeah. I mean, I always say I got the money and it was fine, like, at the end of the day, but, like, I would never date them or take them seriously. Like, it's gross.
03:54:11.880
Yeah, but you're still condoning their behavior, you know, by entertaining them. Would you not say so?
03:54:18.120
I mean, sure, but, like, if it's not me, it would be somebody else, and I'm trying to get paid.
03:54:22.240
So, you're just going to deny accountability and be like, if it wasn't me, it would be somebody else.
03:54:26.740
I did not deny accountability. I just said that I think it's gross, and I still got paid.
03:54:31.060
It's gross, but it's fine because you got paid?
03:54:37.060
So, you were experiencing something that you feel is gross, but it's okay because you got money from it.
03:54:49.460
I think money is way more fulfilling when it's hard-earned, let's just say that.
03:54:56.800
Oh, so you feel like sex work isn't a hard-working industry?
03:55:00.980
I'm not saying it's not a hard-working industry.
03:55:07.760
I mean, you can feel that way, but you just said, oh, like, you feel like money is better.
03:55:11.960
Like, you feel better when you earn it, and you, like, work hard for it.
03:55:14.880
I mean, I worked very hard for my money when I was dancing.
03:55:21.200
Maybe, okay, maybe hard-earned was the wrong term, but maybe getting that money.
03:55:30.100
No, no, no, you can feel disgusted by it, and that's fine, but I didn't do it for you.
03:55:39.440
No, I feel like, no, I'm saying that, like, the guys who are into it, like, yeah, they're
03:55:45.380
So you're just going to take advantage of them.
03:55:49.840
But you're condoning their terrible behavior, so then they go and continue to do it, and you
03:55:54.700
are denying accountability by saying that they're going to go do it anyway.
03:55:57.300
So you're just going to make the problem worse by doing it as well.
03:56:01.860
I am, yeah, and I think that it's, but you're like, it's so weird.
03:56:05.980
You're advocating for something that you think is gross.
03:56:15.180
Because it's gross for them, it's still benefiting off of this sets back everybody, not just
03:56:20.720
You are affecting everybody, even people who aren't participating in the same culture.
03:56:24.240
However, it sets back every woman around you, whether you think it does or not.
03:56:34.400
I mean, honestly, I mean, I don't know, I mean, I don't know, like, what you want, like,
03:56:37.920
like, you do mean to feel bad that these guys are awkwardly?
03:56:40.020
So let's just say, okay, so let's just say, but it sounds like you have a low moral standing,
03:56:45.240
and to be completely honest with you, this isn't a very intelligent take from you.
03:56:57.780
I'll just say about a year into moving to Los Angeles, I was at a Super Bowl party, and
03:57:05.080
a guy, like, definitely above 50, maybe 55 or so, just sat next to me and just started
03:57:12.020
And he was like, so what's it going to be weekly?
03:57:13.600
Um, so yeah, they do make it really easy, but yeah, then I didn't, I just said, I just
03:57:18.440
walked away, actually, I didn't say anything, because I was like, I was like 19, I think,
03:57:21.920
and I just walked away, but, um, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
03:57:26.460
Whatever intention that you put out there, it will come back, like, in a sense where
03:57:29.980
if you're like, hey, this person's hurting, they went through a divorce, I'm going to
03:57:33.240
be there for them, I'm going to see them, but I'm going to genuinely see them, like,
03:57:38.160
But then if, if there is that, like, iniquity, I guess, it, it, it really, like, like, I
03:57:44.180
want to get over on, on them, what could happen is that could happen, come around in your life
03:57:49.020
somewhere, and you'll be like, how did that happen?
03:57:50.960
I, you know, I think just intention, I think if you put.
03:57:54.220
But if they come to me, how is that inequitable?
03:57:59.920
I mean, you guys, we're talking about saying that, but I was, I was young.
03:58:03.540
But that's not an excuse, is that you allowed the sex work industry to pray into you as
03:58:09.860
a young girl, to then continue down the path, which enabled you to later in your life become
03:58:21.360
That's what I'm getting at, is like, you were 18 years old.
03:58:25.520
Well, that's, that's why I hope that the sex work industry becomes more holistic over time.
03:58:29.860
I hope in the next 10 to 15 years, it really takes a change and, and it starts, things
03:58:35.000
start happening where people are like, holistic, spiritual sexuality.
03:58:40.340
I don't agree with that at all, because how are you going to take an industry of men paying
03:58:44.880
women to sleep with them and make it this healing experience, when in reality, I think
03:58:51.660
Obviously, that's my personal opinion, being a Christian.
03:58:54.480
I mean, there's so many people that are just so morally lost, where you said you started
03:59:00.180
I don't think any woman should ever look to that and be like, this is super glorifying
03:59:04.040
in society, and this is the right thing for me to do.
03:59:06.940
And it makes me sad that women in our society are lied to so much that they turn to OnlyFans.
03:59:12.860
They turn to selling their bodies on the internet for the male gaze, profiting off of that and
03:59:17.860
Not only it lowers their self-esteem, it's women mentally are becoming unhealth, unhealthier,
03:59:23.220
unhealthier, and higher body counts, and then less desirable as life goes on, to where
03:59:28.100
you're, essentially, women are ruining their lives.
03:59:30.320
I've never had an issue getting a boyfriend, so I don't know what you mean by less desirable.
03:59:34.500
I've had, this is my first year being single, I've been having a, had a boyfriend the entire
03:59:38.280
time, so I don't know what you're talking about.
03:59:39.900
What's the, what's the quality of the men you're dating?
03:59:41.700
I was going to say, what, what, what is the high value man are you with?
03:59:44.740
What's your definition of, see, see, I don't prescribe to that high value thing, I mean,
03:59:54.540
But don't you think, like, back to the dating scale, that there is something as a high value
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woman, that there are women that are more valuable in the dating sphere, so then there's
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I mean, I, I guess, but not, not person to person.
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The only time I would ever pay for someone like you is donating a grand for Brian to
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I never promoted it, I'm literally just talking about my experience.
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I never said that this was the right choice, I said that I'm okay with it, that I'm not ashamed
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of what I've done, and that's pretty much, like, where I left it.
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Well, you were promoting older men fetish, fetishes, fetishizing.
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Fetishizing women who are the age of their children.
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No, I literally said that I thought it was gross, but I took the money.
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It's like a bouncer at the bar being like, oh, I'm not supposed to let you in, but you're
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To promote men fetishizing younger women that are the age of their children?
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You didn't have to be there if you didn't want the men to come to you and do that.
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And on top of that, you didn't have to start an outside work relationship with this man
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If you had an 18-year-old girl sitting in front of you and asking, hey, I want to get
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into the stripping industry because I really am trying to chase that bag, would you encourage
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Only because ever since COVID happened, the industry has totally changed.
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So if the money was how it used to be in a young girl, it's not supposed to be.
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Okay, can I share my experience of my first time at a strip club, please?
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Wait, before you go into that really quick, Valdiv, you were gone when he said this.
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And then tell us about the strip club situation.
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I'm not going to see you and be like, oh, my God, I'm sitting there.
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First of all, I would like to point out that I was not sitting there being like, oh, my
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Well, I was a little bit, but I mean, I did have a good time.
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But what I observed is that we came and we sat down and there were girls in the booth or section
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And then as soon as the money comes out, they're just like in your face.
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And then after the money is all on the floor, they just immediately go and pick up the money.
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And it's just it's almost like a robotic response.
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And it's really sad to see that behavior for that money.
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And then you after you do that, you literally go on the floor and you pick up the money.
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And I cannot see how that can be empowering, fulfilling, make you feel good about yourself
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because you are selling your body and that cannot feel good.
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I can never I can never imagine myself doing that and feeling OK with myself.
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Like, I'm not telling you that you should do that.
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OK, but you were saying that if a young a young girl came up to you and asked,
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You said if the money was like how it was before COVID, you would say yes.
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Yes, I don't think that anyone wouldn't you ask anybody should do anything that they feel uncomfortable with.
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Like the way that you described it, I would never want you to do that.
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Like, psychologically, psychologically, if you look at it from a purely scientific perspective.
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A woman who is willing to or has convinced themselves that those things are fulfilling, there is something fundamentally incorrect.
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There is I don't know a better word to use other than damage or trauma or something that induces that in them.
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And I if you disagree with me, it's like it's I'm just telling you, it's purely scientific that you can look at any study that just let's say promiscuity is a general term.
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It signifies being a stripper isn't being promiscuous.
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No 18 year old wakes up one day and says, I'm going to take off my clothes and be a stripper for money.
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And it is a psychological fact that there is damage there and trauma that these women who are doing this, it feels like a last resort option for a lot of women because they have nothing else that they feel like that they can fall back on.
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And then even tying this to trafficking, even like there's so that it is a gateway going on to what you said.
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I'm just saying, how is I really feel you guys and I see and I I hear you like you're coming from a certain point of view, but like it's it's really ignorant.
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Like you guys really don't know anything about women who do sex work.
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We're just considering your opinions because you keep saying, oh, I was disgusted, but those were the best days of my life.
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But I like, yeah, you're just pretty much kind of reiterating your arguments.
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So we're just pretty much every woman that I've met and that does sex work.
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Either they acknowledge that it's wrong and they want to stop or they are they have a lot of trauma.
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They have a lot of trauma that they need to address.
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I think that going back to what you said when you said, oh, if an 18 year old said, hey, I'm going to get this bag.
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But if I did and that was my 18 year old and I said, I would say, get the bag like.
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Do you care about these men and their emotional state when you're with them?
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Do you care about those relationships that you build?
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Because the relationships that you have, you're going to learn how to discard people.
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And when you learn how to discard people, you're not going to have good relationships in your life.
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So if you are going to be a dancer, do you genuinely care about people and want to maybe make connections and like have a good like that type of relationship?
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Or are you just trying to learn how to discard?
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Because you're actually considering her value and not just saying it's all for the money.
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Yeah, every once in a while, I get a gross 50-year-old guy that I had to fucking give a lap dance to.
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But it wasn't that big of a fucking deal because it was worth it at the end of the day.
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We know people who do pole dancing as a dance form, like an art.
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Like you practice in a studio, not people throwing money at you.
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I learned in the strip club and I like the money aspect.
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I literally used to get high off of performing on stage.
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Like, there would be, like, I've worked in some of the biggest clubs in the country.
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Everything you're saying is getting more and more concerning.
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Like, you don't even know what you're talking about half the time.
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So now because we are younger than you, we don't know what we're talking about.
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You had mentioned at one point, because I think it came into, I forgot precisely what
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the wording was, but you said that you don't have any trouble finding boyfriends.
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You don't think there, like, it does limit your dating pool, though, that you're involved
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I'm not even involved anymore, but yes, I mean, I'm sure.
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Well, even, even that you were involved in the past.
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I'm sure it does, but in a way, it kind of, it, it, um, filters out, like, the assholes.
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I would never want to be with a guy that cares about that, or cares about body count.
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Like, and I've never had a guy really care that much about any of it.
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So don't you think those guys maybe care more about that, like, they care about it because
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Because, I mean, I, I can speak a bit from the guy's perspective.
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Like, there are definitely guys out there that when it comes to casual sex or friends
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with benefits, maybe even a relationship, maybe they might entertain a girl with, you
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But I think when it comes to marriage and kids, a lot of men are going to take pause
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with someone who's been involved with that sort of thing.
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Like, I could have, honestly, like, I could have been married with kids right now, but I
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Um, honestly, that's, I, I have certain people watching this.
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Just, I'm going to try to move things here along a little bit just to finally, last thing
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Um, on the whole virgin age gap thing, I would just, last thing it, for men, it comes down
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There's a limited fertility window that women have.
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So men are going to skew towards being attracted to more younger women.
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It's hardwired attraction triggers, attraction traits in the same way that women are attracted
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That's a hardwired evolution thing because men who are, you're, do you disagree about
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I don't know if you were just moving your head.
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Well, in the same way that women like tall men, it's hardwired attraction trigger because
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a guy who's tall, a guy who's physically large or muscular, whatever it may be, he's more
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So that's one of the reasons why women are attracted to tall men.
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No, I mean, I understand the evolutionary psychology thing.
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No, I mean, I just, well, let's move on from that.
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I said evolutionary psychology is, yeah, there's certain theories about how, what he was talking
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We are literally put on this earth to do one thing and it is to make more of us.
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I'll say I'm like basically only attracted to men that are older than me.
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So I think there is like something maybe biologically there.
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I mean, I am attracted to a big, tall man because I feel like he can protect me.
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Biologically built in, we are attracted to different people and that makes sense.
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My boyfriend's older than me, bigger than me, et cetera, et cetera.
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And, okay, so we won't linger too long on that, but we might have a video that's semi-related
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Body count, we've been talking about body count all night.
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Do you object to men caring about women's body count?
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I can only remember the eight that had a terrible.
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Would you say it's like triple digits or less than that?
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I mean, I would think so after all those years.
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I don't, I don't think that, I don't think that I, when I was younger I didn't see as many people
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because I think my mentality was more the survival.
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But now that I have gotten into the spiritual sexuality over the past two years, I have seen more.
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It's about doubled since I started the spiritual sexuality.
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Before I think it was just, I was just grabbing.
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I think that the, but that's why I really like that because I'm going to continue going to these retreats.
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My first experience going, one of those relationships, yeah.
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And I remember I was a dancer and I remember it was very, when a man called me pretty, I, I never got that younger.
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And so I think that it took so little to get me out of the club until, you know, the time where there was something that happened.
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And that's when I was like, like, these guys can have certain intentions and you got to be in the right mental state.
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And, and then finally, when I got into the work at the, the brothel, that's when things started to kind of get better for me.
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Like, I started to see things in a different way and not in survival.
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Like, this is a vacation, husbands and wives come to see me.
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And many are interested in the sexual healing and for themselves and their marriages.
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And that's why on September, I have going to a week-long retreat.
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I'm literally just going to be camping out in the middle of nowhere in San Diego.
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And I don't know what we're going to learn there, but.
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Wait, so, okay, you said the first time you did pay to play, 21.
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My father was in the military, so he was gone most of the time.
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And my mother was a single mother, so she was very stressed financially.
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That's a big reason why a lot of people will get into doing that kind of work.
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And, yeah, I remember my mom, when, you know, when we were growing up, money was just like,
04:17:09.700
it was very glorified because we didn't have it.
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She worked at a company for like several years.
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She worked missing persons, so that's why she had a big problem with me being a sex worker.
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And she, seeing what happened to those girls, she would be the one that called the parents
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And so, not to trauma dump and do all that, but she was very scared for me when I got
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into that industry, but when I did start working at the brothel, she kind of like eased up a
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Like, I had to, you have to pass like security.
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It's pretty, you have to get a license, so it's, you know, it's pretty, you know, you
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It's, they taxed that to you, but it's much better than what it was.
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So, just on the body count thing, in the hundreds?
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I mean, I guess 365 days a year, I wasn't doing somebody every day.
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I wasn't doing, we usually do tours, so it's like two weeks out of each year, so I guess
04:18:30.740
How many, okay, you said one a day, 365 days a year.
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Well, no, 300, in a year, 300 days, you were active.
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I would say less than that, less, because there's filtering days.
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Would you say 200 in a year is within the realm of possibility?
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But you said you were active since you were 21.
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I would say that it was harder for me to get people to want.
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It was few and far between before I started doing the sexual healing.
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I did, and I did, I was, I remember I was so sad because I didn't understand about the
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filtering and the emotions and how we take on their emotions, and we need those days
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We need those days to, we need to be going in with the right intentions, in a sense.
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And for me, I wasn't at first, and I remember stopping sex work for, I think, an entire
04:19:57.160
year, and I just danced purely because I didn't understand it.
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But then I started again, but then finally back there.
04:20:08.960
I was coming from a place of, like you said, despair.
04:20:13.580
But now I'm coming from a place of empowerment where I'm like, you know what?
04:20:18.600
I choose to do this, and I want to learn more about it.
04:20:21.300
And that's why I'm quite fascinated with the Kabbalah, because they talk about a lot
04:20:26.880
Well, I mean, you strike me as someone, like, you're very articulate, I think.
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But, I mean, it occurs to me while talking to you, you seem like an intelligent person.
04:20:52.340
Do you think things could have gone a different path?
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But what I do think is there is this desire in me to entertain families one day.
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And I know that that sounds totally outlandish.
04:21:12.160
And I, you know, I look at people like that, and I say, you know what?
04:21:29.120
I think, like, crazy in a sense where, like, I think that.
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I woke up, and my car was keyed, and my tire was slashed.
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Doesn't it get pretty catty in strip clubs between some of the chicks?
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And it's like, you know, they give mad if they go, oh, like, you know, my money.
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There's people that take it out on others and people that take it out on themselves.
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I was more the latter where I would take everything out on myself.
04:22:21.300
But I would tally mistakes that I made in the day with, like, a pen.
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And I would think about conversations where I'm like, I should have said this to them.
04:22:32.800
But then I realized, like, I've got to be kinder to myself for people to be kinder to me.
04:22:43.760
I have one body, but it only happened that one time.
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This is, no, this is not the guy that I dated for four days.
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Wait, you said, like, you had sex only one time?
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I don't really remember my logic behind it, but I think it was almost something like a...
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Ugh, I hate to say this, but, like, everyone's doing it.
04:23:49.680
I feel like you should have to talk about it if you don't want to.
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It's not, no, I'm not uncomfortable talking about it.
04:23:54.360
I just genuinely, I don't really remember, because it was so long ago.
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But, basically, it happened once, and I guess we were planning on hanging out again, but it just never happened.
04:24:07.940
Like, did he ghost you, or did you lose interest, or?
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Um, it was, like, I mean, I would say almost, like, he ghosted me, sure.
04:24:22.200
But, we, yeah, we were planning on hanging out again, and then...
04:24:37.760
But, basically, like, he was kind of feigning, like, he was interested, but then, like, you guys finally hook up, and then...
04:24:45.420
Because a lot of guys will be like, oh, yeah, like, I want a relationship, whatever.
04:24:49.380
I mean, he never said he wanted a relationship, but...
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I'm not gonna, well, I'm not gonna say I didn't pay him as a villain, but sure, you could say that.
04:25:13.680
Well, yeah, I mean, you guys only hung out that one time, I guess.
04:25:26.260
Wait, you slept with him, but you didn't like...
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Did it happen kind of, like, spontaneously type thing, or...
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You guys were just chilling at the pad, and then you're, like...
04:25:55.360
Well, no, we had went out to dinner before and stuff, but...
04:25:59.120
And I think back then, in my eyes, it was, like, as long as it was a good experience,
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Like, you were like, hey, like, I'm kind of bummed he didn't...
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I wasn't bummed that he didn't like me, but I did notice that after I did it, I felt like
04:26:23.640
Because I was like, I did this, and I was like...
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I wouldn't say I regret it, because I don't think...
04:26:32.440
Like, I still have my dignity, I still respect myself a lot, and it's not like I went and
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I would say it's something that does not affect me at all to this day, but, I mean, it's something
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I don't really sit here and be like, I regret it, you know?
04:26:52.000
Um, well, so I lost my V really young to a 17-year-old.
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I never really thought to even count or anything, actually.
04:27:10.880
So, I do think body count matters, so I'm not going to share, because I think it's something
04:27:15.120
that should be intimate between you and your future partner.
04:27:19.260
But you said that it's, you did, it's at least one, correct?
04:27:23.080
Yes, I have engaged in horticulture in college and have done it before.
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I just like answering this question, but everyone knows, so I'm already going to say,
04:27:39.040
It's eight, but I feel like I was at, like, a time in my life where I was very sucked into
04:27:43.260
the, like, the male validation thing that, like, everyone was doing it, so you had to do
04:27:48.040
it, and I wanted to say, like, I'm not making excuses for myself, obviously, I'm going to
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But I was brainwashed, and I feel like as I've grown, like, I, I've developed more values
04:27:59.700
and morals and everything like that, and at the time, I, like, again, I'm not, I don't
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want to make excuses for myself because I don't want to sound, like, stupid, but, like,
04:28:09.920
I didn't have anyone to tell me, like, it was wrong.
04:28:12.200
Like, I didn't have a mother to tell me, like, oh, like, this is wrong, blah, blah,
04:28:15.660
like, my father was a little bit absent, like, I had no one to really guide me in the right
04:28:19.360
way to do that, and if I could go back and redo it, I would, but it's eight, and it's going
04:28:27.460
Being 18 and saying that is just so wise because I think there's so many girls now who are 18,
04:28:32.260
19, 20, 21, who are so sold that same lie of hookup culture, male validation, seeking
04:28:38.620
I know that's something that I struggled with for years when I was 18, of, like, going
04:28:42.380
and doing hookups because it's, like, oh, guys are giving you attention.
04:28:52.620
Every, like, body that I have had, I've genuinely liked the guy that I've done it.
04:28:56.760
I didn't just, like, do random hookups, you know?
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Like, I don't understand, like, what's wrong with it?
04:29:05.480
You can like to have sex and not sleep with a lot of people.
04:29:14.080
I think it's sad that you, like, some of you shame yourself.
04:29:21.000
I just, you know, I acknowledge that, like, maybe it was wrong.
04:29:26.540
Maybe she felt like she was doing it out of fear and not out of her own, like, heart.
04:29:30.340
And that's not, like, a shame, but, like, oh, my goodness, like, I was so young.
04:29:33.720
But then you just said that you liked every guy that you did it with, so then just, you're fine.
04:29:35.980
Yeah, but I got played it by every guy that I did it with.
04:29:38.900
I mean, I've liked guys that I've done things with, but just because I like them doesn't mean
04:29:43.660
that I should have allowed myself to give my full self to that person.
04:29:50.880
And like I said, like, as I got older, like, I developed more values, and I feel like I
04:29:58.040
Do you think that you, because we're around the same age, the three of us, do you think
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that you got more conservative as you got older, like, out of my school and everything?
04:30:05.820
I think all three of us did, and I usually don't meet people like that, but it's cool to see
04:30:14.180
I was where y'all were when I was 18, and I turned 24 this month.
04:30:18.020
Like, it's insane to see young people like you girls who, you know, have lower bodies
04:30:23.040
and are actively talking about it, because I feel like just because so many lies are
04:30:27.020
sold to us, that it is glorifying for us to be so sexually active, hookup culture in
04:30:32.140
It's like almost if you're not engaging in that culture in college, you're missing out,
04:30:36.460
when in reality, if you're not engaging in that, you're actually saving yourself for
04:30:41.720
I think it should be talked about more for sure, especially in our industry.
04:30:50.660
It's not even, in our industry, it's not even like having a lot of sex, because let's
04:30:57.040
be honest, everybody who's a fitness influencer or most people are going to be attractive
04:31:00.960
on the higher end, because, you know, that's your job.
04:31:03.680
But in the women's side, I want to say a good 95% of the girls in the fitness industry do
04:31:24.860
And if you take purely fitness, the men make way more money than the girls.
04:31:29.360
So the girls make up for that by selling sex, basically.
04:31:34.800
We're able to be financially independent, just doing fitness, not doing anything sexual.
04:31:39.000
But a lot of girls can't find that level of financial independence in the industry, because
04:31:45.560
And then they see everyone else doing it, and they're like, I'm going to do it.
04:31:50.640
It affects us, because we meet people, there are people who have known us for months, and
04:31:54.900
then one day we randomly stumble upon the conversation, and they're like, oh, you don't do OnlyFans?
04:31:59.160
It's like, I don't, I personally don't want to be seen as somebody who does sex work.
04:32:07.540
It's annoying, there was some guy at the gym who thought I was, he's like, oh, I thought
04:32:10.760
you were richer than that, because we were talking about income.
04:32:14.520
And he goes, well, you're OnlyFans, how much money does that bring in?
04:32:20.300
There's guys who I've gone on dates with, and they go, well, my number one concern is
04:32:29.140
Yeah, and so it reflects poorly on the rest of us, and it's, I don't know if upsetting is the
04:32:39.100
Honestly, me personally, I don't think it's frustrating, because then it's just like,
04:32:48.860
I think if everybody knew, like, on widespread, then, like, yeah, but I mean, I guess my
04:32:54.920
Yeah, because it's like, if they seek it out, then they're like, oh.
04:33:06.260
I don't want to be like, oh, like, moral high ground, like, I'm better than you.
04:33:10.960
But at the same time, I do take pride in making my money in a non-exploitive way.
04:33:21.360
I think that the way that I make my money isn't negative on my mental health.
04:33:37.080
I don't think I'm educated enough on that topic to give you a hint.
04:34:03.120
Puffy, bro, I'm going to enroll you in some English classes.
04:34:15.700
Rippy, what the blonde Hulk meant to say is money means more when it is earned with dignity.
04:34:38.360
I thought they said the girl in the red has crying eyes.
04:34:56.820
Moral actions, so she will use any and all cognitive dissonance to avoid facing the shame
04:35:03.560
Brian, make your pen out of a piece of the USS New Jersey, and it uses your silly refills.
04:35:11.020
He's going to hook me up with a bunch of pens, I guess.
04:35:12.960
We need some in the studio, so if you can bump the...
04:35:23.180
Well, more than 100 DMs a week, so it's hard to keep up with everybody, but thank you, man.
04:35:53.920
It doesn't look like he's sleeping with these women.
04:35:55.900
It just looks like he's asking them for pictures.
04:36:01.100
This is Puffy, the guy that sleeps with many, many, many women.
04:36:07.440
I think he just goes on the strip and takes pictures with 304.
04:36:17.500
I like how to support him in all of his adventures.
04:36:25.880
Yo, guys, everybody in the chat right now, I want you to go to his Instagram right now,
04:36:33.880
XL, this one, I'll tell you the photo I want you to...
04:36:36.620
The one to the right of it that we pulled up before.
04:36:41.820
If you got Instagram, go pull up his Instagram.
04:36:46.240
I want you to comment, fire emojis, slay queen.
04:36:56.980
Slay queen, fire emojis, the fingernail one, where it's doing like the fingernail, just
04:37:10.380
He looks nice, but I'm concerned with him going up to random women and taking pictures.
04:37:32.000
What should we write on his Instagram right now?
04:37:41.980
Based on just looks, he looks like the type of people that I would want to shrink and put
04:37:48.680
Just write, this is what peak male performance looks like.
04:37:56.800
Whether you like it or not, this is what peak male performance looks like.
04:38:22.840
I'm going to rate you a 10 because I appreciate that you always come on here and do this.
04:38:39.400
But he always talks about how he always meets women that cheat on their husbands and everything.
04:38:54.880
We have a couple videos that we got to react to and then we're going to wrap.
04:39:11.820
You know what's so attractive about younger women?
04:39:13.600
Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
04:40:14.660
You know what's so attractive about younger women?
04:40:16.660
Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff.
04:40:24.900
You'd meet a woman, you'd get married, you'd be together, whatever.
04:40:26.400
In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive.
04:40:38.180
If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be her second or third man, right?
04:40:43.020
And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door?
04:40:48.160
Like, well, if my last man cheat, I'll give a fuck.
04:40:52.680
So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer, they've had more fucking rides, more spins.
04:41:00.540
And when I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count.
04:41:06.780
Women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex.
04:41:09.880
If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with you.
04:41:15.680
But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?
04:41:20.900
Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real quick, I'll just go get a new guy?
04:41:23.020
Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner.
04:41:26.460
The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her,
04:41:32.220
after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken
04:41:36.560
and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through
04:41:39.300
is far less likely than meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men.
04:41:43.080
And she goes, you know what, this is the guy, I like him.
04:41:45.420
Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.
04:41:47.600
Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or their second or third guy.
04:41:52.060
Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are.
04:41:55.040
If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship.
04:41:58.860
She's more likely to just say, you know what, new answers, new dig.
04:42:03.680
If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I won't sleep with her.
04:42:18.560
He, well, he used to be atheist, then he became Christian, but now he's Muslim.
04:42:22.760
It's in his, you know, they have the virgins and the Muslim culture.
04:42:28.360
I've seen him do those mantras when he sits down.
04:42:49.340
And so, yeah, I don't care what he says, but I must say this.
04:43:08.300
No, I think, look, so, my, once again, I'll, I feel like we're going in circles.
04:43:13.240
I feel like, look, as a girl who's like, you know, has a body count of 30 or whatever,
04:43:17.500
I feel like if I really, like, when I, when I like a guy and I sleep with a guy and I like
04:43:22.000
him, it means a lot because, I mean, I have the experience to, to know that I like, to
04:43:28.300
When you lose your virginity to someone, it's puppy love.
04:43:32.780
All you know is he's the first one to put it in you.
04:43:39.440
We all, we don't got to keep going in circles, guys.
04:44:03.020
Wait, what was the, what was the thing about being the first?
04:44:05.920
I, well, he mentioned that, um, a woman's always going to fall in love with her first
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And that a woman who's been with a lot of men, like, lacks the ability to, like, have connection,
04:44:20.020
You haven't even been with that many people, so how are you going to say that?
04:44:25.120
But why would, so you would rather her be with 30 people to then have the anecdotal evidence
04:44:32.680
I'm saying that I don't agree with what he said.
04:44:35.140
And also, he is, he allegedly trafficked women from my country, and so I don't really
04:44:43.220
But, well, that's not really, I mean, his pending court case.
04:44:48.620
His pending court case is kind of irrelevant, because you need to actually address the arguments
04:44:56.200
No, but it's a fallacious, it's fallacious to say, well, because this person is currently
04:45:02.120
being accused of a crime, therefore what he's saying is wrong.
04:45:06.840
I addressed what he said, and then I followed it with being like, I don't, I mean, he could
04:45:12.460
say whatever, I don't agree with anything that he'll ever say, because I read the Romanian
04:45:16.800
press, and you could say allegedly, but whatever.
04:45:19.440
So if he said that the sky was blue, you would object to it, because he's currently under-investigation.
04:45:35.820
It is a fallacy, though, to say, because he allegedly did this bad thing, that therefore
04:45:43.220
But I did respond to what he said, and I feel like I was pretty thorough about it, so-
04:45:46.620
Okay, but you're trying to minimize what he said by also throwing in, by the way, he's
04:45:53.440
also accused of this, therefore you should take what he said less seriously.
04:46:05.600
He can't be an authority on what he's saying, because he's accused of crying.
04:46:16.100
I wonder if he felt this way before he converted to Muslim.
04:46:23.060
I'm pretty sure you, let's not involve religion into this, but he's probably felt that way
04:46:32.100
Yeah, I thought that maybe that had something to do with his strong beliefs on that.
04:46:37.200
Yeah, so that, I mean, for me, I'm like, okay, well, that's what he believes, and that's,
04:46:46.400
I think in general, like, regardless of, like, his belief system, where did he lie?
04:46:51.440
I mean, an older woman will, who has had more sexual partners will obviously not be able
04:46:57.320
to connect with her husband as much and will be coming into a relationship with baggage.
04:47:02.120
So I think it's fair to assume, unless you've had an intimate conversation of how many people
04:47:06.080
you've slept with, it's okay to assume, okay, you're 35, you're single, you've probably slept
04:47:10.300
with a lot more people than a 19 or 20-year-old coming in, and it's one or two sexual partners.
04:47:15.620
In The Music Man, I said the sadder but wiser girl for me, because he wanted the girl that
04:47:19.460
was around the block, but he doesn't, so that makes sense.
04:47:22.900
Which, I'm not the biggest Andrew Tate fan, but in this exact clip, 100%, like, there were
04:47:29.240
I think it's pretty factual to say that an older woman who's slept with a lot of more
04:47:34.420
men are more to have less emotional connections to their husbands or whoever they're seeking
04:47:40.120
relationships with, because, I mean, sex is an emotional thing, you know?
04:47:44.500
Okay, yeah, so psychologically, orgasm for women is an oxytocin release, and for men, it's
04:47:50.660
And oxytocin is a bonding hormone, and dopamine is a reward hormone.
04:47:54.680
Well, every single time you sleep with a man, we are creating pair bonds in our brain that
04:48:06.300
That's what I don't, I don't understand how you can disagree with science and psychology.
04:48:10.460
I personally don't pair bond with every single person I sleep with.
04:48:16.160
What about, okay, so is this only hetero-relationship, or are we talking about, like, orgasm?
04:48:23.300
So, you can say, like, I'm not pair bonding, but that's just not reality, and that's not
04:48:31.320
So, every guy that I sleep with, I'm just in love with?
04:48:36.100
I said that there's a psychological bond, that there is a bond in your brain that you
04:48:40.080
are creating with that person that you have an intimate relationship with.
04:48:44.680
That is psychological, that is scientific, it's irrefutable evidence on the table.
04:48:50.140
And so, you can say, I'm going out in the world and not having these relationships with
04:48:55.420
people, but at the end of the day, I mean, you said you slept with 30 people.
04:48:58.320
You have a pair bonded in your brain with 30 people.
04:49:02.980
The more you slept with people, the less you probably recognize it, too, because that's
04:49:12.760
You're creating also the inability to have a long-lasting relationship, because the more
04:49:17.420
people that you sleep with, and when it's just a hookup, you're training psychologically
04:49:20.880
your brain, that that is more acceptable and okay than being in a long-term relationship.
04:49:25.680
The more sexual partners you have, the more sexual partners you have, it starts to reduce
04:49:32.300
your ability to pair bond with future partners.
04:49:34.560
It may be the case that you've slept with people, you had absolutely no bond, but...
04:49:41.420
I mean, like I said, I have no issues following that.
04:49:43.120
For the first couple or few people that you have ever slept with, say, have you ever felt
04:49:49.600
like emotionally connected to those specific people?
04:49:52.300
Yeah, the first one definitely was a thing, but I mean, okay, so after I fell in love
04:49:58.940
with like my actual, like my first boyfriend, the one that I was with for six years, I couldn't
04:50:02.780
even compare the love that I felt for him with the guy that I, like the guy that I thought
04:50:08.000
I was in love with, who was the first guy I slept with, I mean, after actually being
04:50:14.880
Wait, the guy you were in love with was the six-year one?
04:50:18.080
You, in your messages to us, you say you were in an open relationship with him.
04:50:24.700
Towards the last, the last two years, we did, um, we did kind of fall out of love, but
04:50:30.880
also, because we were, I was 17 when we got together, and we both like, it got boring
04:50:40.180
Is that the only, like, I'm saying at first, I'm saying.
04:50:45.940
With the first guy I slept with, versus when I got into my relationship at the beginning,
04:50:51.960
I mean, I can't compare the two loves that I thought that I felt, you know, like, the
04:50:56.160
first one was puppy love, the second one was like, oh my god, like, I'm in love, like,
04:51:00.860
this is crazy, like, I, you know, we did everything together, we're actually still friends to this
04:51:07.040
It's just not as romantic anymore, because we grew apart, we just, I don't know, I think
04:51:11.100
it's like a seven-year itch thing, it's like six years, you know, we just both changed,
04:51:14.820
we grew in different directions, um, but, yeah, I mean, that's kind of what I'm saying,
04:51:20.100
it's like, well, the first guy, yeah, I thought I loved him, but the guy I really was in love
04:51:23.980
with was, wasn't he, I think he was the seventh guy I ever, actually, I remember he was the
04:51:29.420
Would you say that's, like, the only guy that you've ever felt emotionally connected to
04:51:34.120
No, um, the other guy was, I've had two relationships, the other guy was the one I was last with,
04:51:41.220
and that was almost even deeper, actually, because we had more in common, like, we were
04:51:45.020
into the same kind of, like, humor and whatnot, and so we, like, got to hang out more, and
04:51:51.000
I don't know, like, hanging, like, he was, it was, I don't know how it's been, like, we
04:51:54.520
were closer on, like, a friendly, friendship level, and, um, yeah, I was even, I was in even
04:52:00.380
more love with him, actually, than the other guy, so that's what I'm saying, like, this
04:52:03.560
is, so, like, the first few guys you, you would say you have felt emotionally connected
04:52:09.760
I'm saying that the first guy I slept with, I did, and then my first relationship, which
04:52:13.620
was, like, the seventh guy, I did, and then, like, shortly, shortly after I slept with,
04:52:18.920
I mean, I, shortly after I ended my six-year relationship, I got with somebody else, and
04:52:22.940
we were even even more deeper, like, emotionally connected, so.
04:52:27.080
So, I feel like that does prove that it does wear off as you, yeah.
04:52:29.720
How does, I just said that it went, it got deeper and deeper as it went along.
04:52:33.460
I didn't say it got less deep, I said it got deeper and deeper.
04:52:36.560
But do you think, okay, let's say you've slept with a hundred people.
04:52:40.020
Do you think, like, you're really gonna care about number 101?
04:52:44.000
Like, at that point, it's just, like, the next, the next dick.
04:52:47.640
I'm talking about my real, my romantic relationships have gotten deeper and deeper and deeper.
04:52:54.480
No, the older I get, the more experience I am, the more I know myself, the more that
04:52:59.580
Yeah, but generally speaking, like, look, the more people you sleep with, like, as you
04:53:03.340
have more sexual partners, your ability to pair bond with future people is diminished.
04:53:08.600
That's not the case for me, because I've gotten more in love with people the older I get,
04:53:15.500
Because I knew what I didn't want from the first guy, I knew what I didn't want from the
04:53:19.540
second guy, and I knew what I didn't want from the third guy.
04:53:26.660
Why can't you know what you don't like without having to experience a shitty relationship
04:53:41.340
And you're never gonna know what you want or don't want unless you experience it.
04:53:44.580
I definitely do know what I want and don't want without having relationship experience.
04:53:48.420
You can totally rationalize in your head what is good and what is not without having to
04:53:57.380
You said your six-year relationship, was he one of your first people that you were intimate
04:54:07.120
But, however, you admitted to it getting boring, and then you opened up the relationship.
04:54:17.140
The sex, and, I mean, yeah, I think, shit, we were together for years at that point.
04:54:24.400
I mean, like, but you said your relationship, you had to open it up.
04:54:29.800
I, I mean, honestly, to be completely honest, it was really him that was the one that wanted
04:54:35.620
to open it and was, like, having issues, like, being faithful and whatnot, and so I was like,
04:54:40.660
all right, well, we can open it up, and, and that was that.
04:54:43.680
But, um, but the open relationship isn't really what killed it.
04:54:51.380
So the last two years, we did, we were not having pretty much...
04:54:55.800
Isn't that a failure of the pair bonding between you two, then?
04:55:03.640
I think what really failed it wasn't the pair bonding.
04:55:05.700
It was the fact, I mean, shit, I, I really don't want to, like, put my business out there.
04:55:12.040
I'm scared he's going to see this, because we're so, we're so cool.
04:55:19.640
Like, I was, I am a lot more ambitious than him, and he, so he was three years older,
04:55:32.440
And so it was, I became, fine, I'm going to say, I became his mother at the end of the
04:55:35.940
day, and it was extremely unattractive to be somebody's mother.
04:55:51.060
Can you go full screen, make it, before you play it, make it full screen?
04:55:57.200
Oh, this is related to the whole, like, experience, inexperience thing, I think.
04:56:04.060
Because you were talking about, well, wouldn't a guy want a girl who's, and I pretty much
04:56:08.760
totally agree with what he's about to say, but wouldn't a guy want a girl who's, like,
04:56:21.820
Don't you feel like you get to a point in your life where there's something more than
04:56:24.740
Don't you feel like, maybe I'm going to sound like a romantic, don't you feel like you get
04:56:27.800
to a position in your life where you'd rather have a girl who you truly love and she truly
04:56:30.880
loves you, and it doesn't matter what she does, because you know she really loves you
04:56:41.000
If you sleep with enough women, just like if you sleep with enough men, there's no fucking
04:56:48.320
There's no move that's going to be like, wow, I've never seen this before.
04:56:51.920
I've never seen this before and my mind is blown.
04:56:55.580
If you think the way you keep a man happy is to move your pussy in a particular way on top
04:56:59.040
of his dick, as opposed to behave in a way which is respectful to him out in the real
04:57:03.400
world, and for him to know he has you and your loyalty, regardless of what's going to
04:57:07.760
come up, all the problems he's going to come into in his life, then you're wrong.
04:57:10.800
So the whole point of sex is a connection between two people, and I think having a genuine connection
04:57:17.520
So her question was, what can a woman do to truly blow your mind in the bedroom?
04:57:21.840
You'll blow my mind outside of the bedroom, in a relationship as a whole.
04:57:28.140
Wouldn't you rather have a girlfriend who truly loves you, is absolutely loyal to you,
04:57:32.000
like no matter what happens, she's going to be there for you.
04:57:36.640
She, okay, she can't take dick, right, whatever, but she tries her very, very best, the poor
04:57:42.480
thing, and she wants to satisfy you, and you know she cares about you, wouldn't you be like,
04:57:49.020
well, I don't care that she can't take dick, because that's actually a quality woman, which
04:57:52.240
is rare in the world today, but I am genuinely uninterested in sleeping with a woman who I don't
04:57:57.340
If a girl said to me, I don't love you at all, I don't feel anything for you at all,
04:58:01.240
I don't want to sleep with you, but I will, I would say no.
04:58:04.800
So, the sex act in and of itself is, okay, we've all, have you had sex?
04:58:10.700
Do you really need to fuck somebody who doesn't give a shit about you at all?
04:58:13.740
We live in a world now, right, where we have a lot of narratives which are being broken
04:58:16.700
down and destroyed in real time, and I think it's very, very healthy for men and women
04:58:20.380
to look at sex as an act that happens between people who at least like each other.
04:58:26.280
The idea that I don't like them at all, but as long as they can suck dick this way,
04:58:33.020
If a girl genuinely loves me with all her heart and gives me a fucking terrible blowjob,
04:58:37.340
I'm still going to be like, well, you love me, I love you, it is what it is.
04:58:40.440
Life's more important than blowjobs and fucking blowing your nose.
04:58:44.760
And if it's not love, if it's not love, let me tell you something.
04:58:50.080
If it's not love, you shouldn't be fucking him anyway.
04:58:54.060
Just because the modern world told you different.
04:58:55.880
You shouldn't be fucking any man you don't love.
04:59:01.620
No, no, no, no, because the intimate, whatever, however you say it, intimate, whatever, it's not there, you will feel it.
04:59:08.960
But looking at that from a, you know, just from that angle, you know, there are times like, I mean, I guess I'll relate it to the sex work.
04:59:19.540
There are times where I meet somebody and they're real nasty to me.
04:59:22.460
Like, in person, they're not nice, they say things.
04:59:25.640
And like he said, the gatekeeper, I was like, you know what, maybe it's best you see another girl, because I don't want to see you.
04:59:32.420
I agree that, like, you want to be with someone sexually that cares about you, that is least nice to you.
04:59:39.160
Like, I had one guy that was insulting me, like, the whole time, and I just was like, this guy's nasty.
04:59:50.080
I mean, yeah, he's saying that he wants to have a romantic connection or a genuine connection with somebody.
04:59:59.300
But the context of the clip is, well, if a girl is sexually experienced, say she's either virgin or maybe she's only been with one guy,
05:00:08.280
there's this trope that a woman who has a low body count, that translates to she's going to be bad in bed.
05:00:14.160
Or if she's a virgin, she's going to be bad in bed.
05:00:24.880
I mean, I think that the best part about two inexperienced people being together is that you learn together.
05:00:33.400
And I'm sure that after a couple of years, like, it's probably the best sex of your life.
05:00:41.820
If you're trying, you're practicing every day, you're getting your lessons in, maybe it's not too much.
05:00:46.380
That's what an honorable man that actually wants a wife will be able to teach those things.
05:00:51.220
And even if he's sexually inexperienced and she's sexually inexperienced, that's, like, the beauty of a relationship is that when you do love one another, you're creating that emotional connection with them to then continue the relationship.
05:01:01.620
And it will, right, and you'll see improvement and you get to teach each other what you like and don't like.
05:01:06.240
You don't need experience to tell them, oh, I like it done to you this way or that way when you get to learn that with each other and continue to explore.
05:01:14.080
By experience, I didn't, by experience, I didn't mean, like, sexual experience, like, particularly, like, what moves do you like?
05:01:22.860
Like, I mean, that's obviously, like, teachable and whatever.
05:01:28.260
I'm talking about, like, just experience with relationships in general.
05:01:40.600
I was not talking about, like, oh, I like it this way and whatever.
05:01:44.380
But, I mean, I've certainly heard that as a rebuttal to men preferring women who.
05:01:53.500
No, but I've definitely heard that, like, if a guy's like, oh, I prefer to go with a low body count and they're trying to argue, oh, body count doesn't matter.
05:01:59.520
It's like, well, oh, but what about the Gluck Gluck 9,000?
05:02:07.820
I mean, what, I want to kind of make a conclusion for myself just on this whole topic is I feel like women who have a low body count want to feel like, oh, I'm more valuable and I'm better than a girl.
05:02:21.600
And I feel like sometimes women with a high body count are trying to be like, oh, well, I'm better because I could do X, Y, Z and better than you.
05:02:27.820
And I think both of those takes are, like, absolutely horrible.
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I think there's no one's better than the other.
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I think that if you don't, you know, if you have a low body count, that's fine.
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When I was talking about experience, I meant more just, like, relationship experience and, like, what you want and don't want in your partner, like, as a whole, not as in bed.
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But you said that body count is irrelevant and that men are weird for wanting young virgins.
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I mean, look, and I think it's strange and I think that you should expect to be with somebody with the same, like, morals as you.
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Like, if you're a guy who's slept with a bunch of women, then you're, like, a hypocrite for wanting a virgin.
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Well, I think, as a guy, if you're, let's say you have a high body count as a guy, I don't think it's, I think it's perfectly reasonable for you to prefer to date women with a low body count.
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But those women don't have to date you because you have a high body count.
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Yeah, I mean, it's reasonable, you're allowed to have a preference on absolutely anything.
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There's no one saying you can't have a preference on, like, anything.
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I think it's not necessarily a double standard.
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Like, if a man came up to me and was like, oh, I like that you're a virgin and he has 300 bodies, I'm going to be like, you could know.
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And I think most women who are saving themselves, I don't like that term, but saving themselves would agree.
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That may very well be the case, but there's definitely women who, I think, generally speaking, women care maybe a little bit less or quite a bit less when it comes to their, you know...
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I don't know if I necessarily, like, agree with that standard, but, like, I've definitely hung out with or gone on dates with guys who have, in my opinion, a relatively high body count.
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And as much as I'm willing to forgive it, I wouldn't sleep with them, probably.
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And honestly, what's high for a man, in my opinion, is probably not the same as what's high for a woman, in my opinion, which is biased, but just logically and realistically, that's how it works.
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But you think it's kind of, like, hypocritical, kind of double standard?
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Like, if a guy with a high body count wants a girl with a low body count or...
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I mean, I don't think it's necessarily a double standard.
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I mean, maybe, I guess, double standard is the right word for it.
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I just feel like if you expect your partner to have certain morals, then you should have the same morals as well.
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Well, I mean, my rebuttal to that is, does there need to be perfect reciprocity?
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Well, what I'm trying to get at is, does there need to be perfect equivalent between what the two parts...
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Like, for example, can we all agree, like, a lot of women would be very attracted to, like, a very wealthy man?
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In order for her to be attracted to him, does she, too, also need to be wealthy?
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Need she also be tall to be attracted to a man who's tall?
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Need a woman be funny herself to be attracted to a man who's funny?
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No, but people desire traits in their partner that they do not necessarily possess themselves.
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So, in this case, a man who has a high body count, I think he may very well desire a woman with a low body count because a low body count is a desirable thing.
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I'm talking about, like, just having, like, the same morals.
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So, body count or the amount of, you know, sex...
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I mean, you're allowed to have a desire and a reference.
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But she's more likely to be psychologically affected by it.
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And I know at study, it's the same for men and women.
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When a man has a higher body count, it does drive up divorce rates and stuff.
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But psychologically speaking, orgasm is an oxytocin release for women and a dopamine release for men.
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I don't understand why you're trying to dispute things that we have multiple studies on.
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I just feel like I'm, like, repeating myself a lot.
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I feel like y'all are repeating yourself a lot.
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Because you will not accept that we are telling you science.
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And you're disputing it by saying, no, that's not true.
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It's also easy to say, like, body count shouldn't matter because people with higher body counts and lower body counts value sex very differently.
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It's obviously a very different moral standing.
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And to, like, take on, like, what you said, I feel like you're allowed to desire and have preferences.
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It's just, like, the things you listed, like, personality traits are so much different than purity.
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But, okay, the whole argument is, well, a guy with a high body count, he shouldn't want a woman.
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He should match up with a woman who also has a high body count because, you know, that's fair.
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But it's like, okay, well, both men and women, we're not the same.
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Like, we desire certain characteristics that we ourselves do not possess.
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For example, if you're a super masculine guy, need you date a super masculine woman or can you be attracted, shocker, to a woman who's more feminine?
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Because then a woman can also prefer to have a man with a lower body count just the same, even if she had a higher body count.
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I also think body count also doesn't have to matter so much.
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I mean, Matt and I literally never talked about it once until we started watching whatever.
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You find out that your girl fiancé over here, she reveals to you.
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Yeah, like, after we watched your show, like, five times.
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But prior to watching our show, you got never disclosed to each other.
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I think it was, like, above 30, though, for sure.
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I think we're going to do four, but we're just going to do three, I think.
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I do want the girls to rate someone's Instagram here before we...
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Maddie, if you can read the soup chat and then ask the girls their final thoughts if they have any.
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Brian, any chance Matthew Hoosey on a future show?
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That was so many different points in one question.
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Wait, so what are our thoughts on cuddle therapy?
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I actually heard where people can just cuddle with you.
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Yeah, you hire someone to just cuddle with you.
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I feel like I'd be a little bit weirded out if I just like had someone cuddle with me
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It's just scary again because you're bonding with that person that you're not going to
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I mean, as much as I wouldn't personally do it, I can see at a really low point of your
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life if you have nobody else how that would be helpful.
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I think I actually emailed Matthew Hussey a while back inviting him on, but I don't
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think he got back to me, but I'd be down to have him on.
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It'd be pretty interesting because he's a female dating coach.
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Is that the guy who I always see on my TikTok where I was like, the proper way to make a
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Every take I've heard has been about sex, or is that the wrong person?
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Here, we're going to get your guys' rating on this gentleman, and then we're going to
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You can't explain why you love someone, but you can explain why you have an attraction
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And ma-a-a-a-addy, thanks for sitting there again.
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And morning slash afternoon slash evening slash night slash whatever all.
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I would not care at all about my Boobala body count.
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What matters is that she's number one honest, loyal, and a genuine angel, which she is.
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Get me on the show with her versus the Red Bill Avengers.
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No, but I mean, he obviously knows your true body count, but like, I feel like it would
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Men don't want women posting revealing photos, but isn't that also revealing photos?
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Men don't want women posting revealing photos, but are those kind of revealing photos as well?
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Can we look at his bio and see if he's a Young LA athlete?
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He's definitely a cis disciple, but I was thinking like he was like a meat rider, but he's sponsored.
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It's someone like the superhero T, the pump cover joggers.
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Now, in addition to him being pretty ripped, I would like to point out, because I want,
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I'm going to ask you guys if you would, you know, you'd date him.
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And I want you guys to actually answer if you were single, okay?
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Okay, he was the main tank in his World of Warcraft raiding guild, okay, guys?
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You know, he's like a kind of a deep, like DPS really solid, but he's a tank.
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So, you know, like he plays World of Warcraft a lot.
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But maybe, hey, Michael, if you see this, let's have you on the show.
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Because I don't see myself dating a Ziz disciple.
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There's probably somewhere on his computer where, like, when he's not with you, he's, like,
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I think it would be like a video or something like, okay.
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I don't think the World of Warcraft, like, being like a super high
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rank, if he was, like, super high rank in the military, I'd be like,
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I mean, it's obvious that we would have the same opinion.
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And a lot of people do like that kind of content.
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But I think, personally, the subgroup of fitness that we're in, it's a little bit
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It's very, like, 14-year-old boy who wants to do sawarms.
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But, like, you said you like really tall, like, buff guys, right?
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Who's that guy who, like, all the girls are fucking simping over?
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That's, like, looking at, like, a superhero and being, like, hmm.
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Would you break up with your current boyfriend from Chris Bumstead?
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My current boyfriend is 250 pounds lean and Bench is, like, 550.
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Or you were saying earlier about, like, the hotel.
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Like, you know, how the guy will look at the screen and be like, hey, if we need to evacuate,
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If he does stuff like that in general, I think that's sexy because I like dudes that, like,
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are always thinking, like, they're looking around and they're, like, something's off.
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And like you said, with attraction, I like that.
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Who do you think, like, in the industry has your ideal physique?
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Who in the industry has the ideal man physique of what I would seek?
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I don't want, like, I don't want to offend anyone, but...
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I think definitely the height part is more important than how big you are.
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I've tried out, like, bigger guys who are shorter.
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Most of the time, it ends up being an insecurity.
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because we're constantly around, like, pro bodybuilders.
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you want to be the bodybuilder in the relationship.
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and I need someone who's going to drown out that masculinity.
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I think definitely, like, if there's a spectrum,
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we're definitely way farther on the masculine side.
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I would prefer a private relationship if I had one.
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but I can't explain why I wouldn't want to do that.
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Feminism has absolutely plagued American women,
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and anyone who says it doesn't matter is lying.
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I feel like I'm so happy that I got to be on this podcast,
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I could say a lot of things on the feminist stuff.
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I wouldn't even classify myself as a feminist at all,
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has been completely distorted to not be a pro-woman,
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and like anti-motherhood in today's day and age.
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They want women to stay in the corporate world,
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they want you to be a slave to your corporation,
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they want women to get married later and later,
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and the feminist movement has been the downfall,
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that I don't think everything is so black and white like that.
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I think there are women who do enjoy casual sex,
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and I don't think that they have to be judged or looked down on for that,
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because that's just the reality that not everybody's the same,
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and that life in general isn't black and white.
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then they have to also admit the harm that they're doing to themselves as well,
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and I have more bodies than some of the people here,
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I think Matt and I are probably the most happy and the most in love that we've ever been with anyone else,
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and then I think the last thing I would just say on that is,
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I think even you said you think hookup culture is a bad thing,
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I just said that people shouldn't be judged for their body count.
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all I said is that I don't think women or men should be judged for their body count,
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had to explain myself a lot about the body count stuff,
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we shouldn't judge people that engage in casual sex,
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if there's absolutely zero shame associated with just engaging in said hookup culture,
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they're conflicting to say hookup culture is bad,
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we shouldn't shame people that have casual sex and engage in hookup.
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I don't think those two thoughts can coexist really.
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