Whatever Podcast - HEATED DEBATE Liberals vs. Conservatives vs. SHAMAN？! ｜ Dating Talk #89

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00:02:35.580 Oh, last thing.

00:02:37.100 Nick, if you're able to bring it back to the whatever Instagram, you guys may be familiar with We Jesus meme.

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00:02:45.580 So, I've been trying to get in touch with him.

00:02:49.760 Nick, if you can pull up the We Jesus one, the one in the center there.

00:02:53.980 Yeah, play that.

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00:03:15.580 Okay, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:03:18.340 So, please, tell us your name, age, and occupation.

00:03:21.420 Go ahead.

00:03:22.060 Hi, I'm Carly.

00:03:23.560 I'm 19 years old, and I'm a fitness influencer.

00:03:28.880 My name is also Carly.

00:03:30.800 I'm 26 years old.

00:03:32.840 And I'm a student for nursing, but I'm currently on disability.

00:03:37.620 Hi, my name is Lauren Roses, and I work at a brothel, and I'm also a musician.

00:03:45.580 Age?

00:03:46.340 30.

00:03:47.700 Hello, I'm Ariel.

00:03:49.340 I'm 20, and I'm also a fitness influencer.

00:03:53.500 Hello, I'm Emily.

00:03:55.040 I'm 26, and I do social media and OnlyFans.

00:03:58.900 Hey, I'm Morgan.

00:04:00.260 I'm 23.

00:04:01.520 I'm a Turning Point USA contributor and a media personality.

00:04:05.320 Hi, my name is Isabella.

00:04:07.040 I do international strategy at a think tank, and I am a conservative influencer.

00:04:13.140 Oh, age?

00:04:14.220 23.

00:04:15.020 Did you say that?

00:04:16.320 No, I think I missed that.

00:04:17.400 Oh, okay.

00:04:18.180 I think that's my bad.

00:04:18.960 Hello, my name is Madison.

00:04:20.940 I'm 18 years old.

00:04:22.700 I'm a student.

00:04:25.660 That's all I'm going to say, because I feel like everyone already knows.

00:04:29.160 All right, cool.

00:04:29.680 We're going to go around the table once more.

00:04:31.820 So, what is your current relationship status?

00:04:34.840 Are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,

00:04:39.360 polycule, sex cult?

00:04:43.180 How long have you, because I mean, that's a thing, I guess.

00:04:45.760 How long have you been single, if you're single, if you're in a relationship, how long have

00:04:50.620 you been in the relationship, and what's your longest relationship?

00:04:53.560 Go ahead.

00:04:54.300 I have a boyfriend.

00:04:55.920 We've only been together for a month, and this is the only relationship, like real relationship

00:05:03.220 I've ever been in, so.

00:05:06.200 This is your first relationship?

00:05:07.680 My first, yeah, like real relationship.

00:05:10.120 Real relationship, as opposed to like you've previously had some situationships.

00:05:14.560 I mean, like, yeah, like situationships, like talking or whatever.

00:05:17.620 Okay.

00:05:18.600 And who initiated, like, did you both come to an agreement that you wanted to be boyfriend,

00:05:25.200 girlfriend?

00:05:25.580 Did you ask him?

00:05:26.320 Did he ask you?

00:05:27.240 Or how did...

00:05:27.640 We were friends for a year, and then he asked me out three times, and I said yes on the fourth

00:05:33.020 time.

00:05:34.340 Wait, okay, so you friendzoned him.

00:05:36.520 Well, no, no, no, not necessarily.

00:05:37.760 I, um, he lived on the opposite side of the country, which didn't make any sense, but

00:05:42.500 he's moving out here next week, so it seemed appropriate to, you know, maybe I could pursue

00:05:47.400 something real.

00:05:49.120 Wait, okay, so you rejected him the first three times.

00:05:54.700 Not rejected, I wouldn't say.

00:05:56.480 Um, but the first time, it just didn't make sense.

00:06:01.280 The other two times, I wanted to wait a little bit longer to be official, and then when we

00:06:06.440 found out he was moving to the same city, I said yes.

00:06:10.720 But you, initially, you friendzoned him, correct?

00:06:14.020 It was, it was never like a complete friendzone.

00:06:16.580 There was always a shot.

00:06:17.460 Partial friendzone?

00:06:18.580 Yeah, he always had a chance.

00:06:19.980 Okay, all right, interesting.

00:06:21.660 Okay, what about you?

00:06:22.760 And by the way, just, sorry, repeat your age again.

00:06:25.640 Um, 26.

00:06:26.480 26, got it, okay.

00:06:27.820 Yeah, um, I have been single for a year and a half.

00:06:32.760 My longest relationship is six years, and, um, yeah, that's pretty much it, yeah, I'm single.

00:06:41.320 Longest relationship, six years, got it.

00:06:43.120 What about you?

00:06:43.940 Uh, currently in single mode.

00:06:46.140 Uh, it's, it's a little challenging to do it with the brothel, um, so, uh, yeah, currently,

00:06:52.020 I guess, single.

00:06:53.800 Okay, uh, how long have you been single?

00:06:56.700 Since 2020.

00:06:58.080 20, okay.

00:06:59.500 How long was that relationship?

00:07:01.720 Not like three years.

00:07:03.080 Was that your longest relationship, too?

00:07:04.640 Yeah.

00:07:05.140 Okay.

00:07:05.820 Three years.

00:07:06.400 Had to know.

00:07:08.580 Uh, okay, so, here, I'll come back to the brothel thing, but first, I'm gonna just have 0.99

00:07:15.300 everybody share their relationship status situation.

00:07:17.940 What about you?

00:07:18.300 I'm single, I've been single for three, four years, and my longest relationship was around

00:07:24.820 four days.

00:07:26.560 So, you've been single forever.

00:07:28.500 Basically.

00:07:29.360 Basically.

00:07:29.980 So, your, your longest relationship was for three to four days.

00:07:33.900 Yes.

00:07:34.880 Okay.

00:07:35.620 Um, so, it was official for three to four days, like?

00:07:41.300 Yeah, he asked me to be his girlfriend, I said yes, and then I broke up with him four

00:07:46.340 days later.

00:07:47.960 Why?

00:07:50.860 To keep it simple, I just realized that I didn't like him, to be honest.

00:07:57.820 So, like, it was, was it a pity he asked you to be the, the, the girlfriend, and you,

00:08:04.940 out of pity, you said yes, and then?

00:08:06.560 I mean, I said yes, we had only hung out a few times, and we had been talking over Snapchat,

00:08:13.880 I mean, I was like 16, for like a month, and then he asked me out, and I said yes.

00:08:19.120 I liked him at first, I barely really knew him, and then we hung out more, and I just

00:08:24.200 realized that he was not for me.

00:08:26.660 Okay, um, and what's the, I guess that was your longest relationship, what's the longest

00:08:33.020 period of time that you've seen a guy?

00:08:36.000 So, maybe it wasn't boyfriend-girlfriend, but maybe it was, uh, friends with benefits,

00:08:39.900 or, uh, it could have been situationship, what's the longest period of time?

00:08:45.960 I would say a month, maybe the most, or the longest that I've talked to someone was two

00:08:52.300 months, probably.

00:08:54.080 Two, the longest you've talked to someone, two months, okay.

00:08:56.260 Yes.

00:08:57.020 Got it.

00:08:57.800 And so, you said you were, you've been single for four years, was it?

00:09:02.380 Yeah.

00:09:03.080 Okay, so the three to four day thing was when you were, uh, 16, was this like a high school

00:09:09.060 type thing?

00:09:09.540 I believe so, yeah, I was in high school.

00:09:10.600 Oh, okay, all right.

00:09:12.180 Okay, uh-huh.

00:09:13.880 All right, what about you?

00:09:15.460 Um, I am in a relationship, and my longest relationship is five years.

00:09:21.080 Is that your current one?

00:09:22.240 No, I've been in this relationship almost four years.

00:09:26.260 Four years, okay.

00:09:27.080 Yes.

00:09:27.620 Got it.

00:09:28.740 What about you?

00:09:29.240 I'm single, and my longest relationship has been six months, and I've been single for

00:09:34.000 five months.

00:09:35.920 All right.

00:09:36.720 Uh, I just started seeing someone, so it's very new, but, um, my longest relationship

00:09:42.260 was almost a year, about a year.

00:09:45.140 Longest relationship was one year?

00:09:46.540 Mm-hmm.

00:09:46.840 Because I think when we were chatting on Instagram, like, coordinating to get you on the show,

00:09:52.040 when we first reached out to you, you were in a relationship.

00:09:55.260 Well, not-

00:09:55.920 And then you were, you became single.

00:09:57.800 So this is news to me that you're now in a relationship again.

00:10:00.180 Let me clarify.

00:10:00.740 I'm a big believer in staying loyal since, like, the talking stage, so when I said, like,

00:10:05.520 relationship, it was more so, like, talking stage.

00:10:08.160 Currently, right now?

00:10:09.340 No.

00:10:09.740 Oh, back then?

00:10:10.300 Originally, yes.

00:10:11.120 Back then, okay.

00:10:12.460 Yes, but now I'm seeing someone.

00:10:14.680 And, wait, is it the same guy?

00:10:16.640 No.

00:10:17.000 As from, okay, gotcha.

00:10:19.120 And, uh, did you say how long you've been seeing this current guy?

00:10:22.180 Uh, it's, like, fairly new.

00:10:23.540 Pretty new?

00:10:23.920 Like, a few weeks.

00:10:25.100 A couple weeks?

00:10:25.660 Yeah.

00:10:26.060 Okay.

00:10:27.000 Madison, what about you?

00:10:28.580 I am not single.

00:10:30.520 I'm in a very committed relationship.

00:10:32.860 This is my longest relationship currently, 11 months and, like, three days.

00:10:38.180 All right.

00:10:38.780 Rock and roll.

00:10:39.880 Okay.

00:10:40.380 So, uh, you work in a brothel. 1.00

00:10:43.180 Yes. 0.50

00:10:43.820 In Nevada.

00:10:45.020 It's a legal brothel. 1.00

00:10:46.740 Okay.

00:10:47.060 Um, by the way, Nick, the kick isn't working, so if you can just stop it on kick.

00:10:51.540 Um, how long have you been doing that?

00:10:54.940 I've been doing that, gosh, since, well, after COVID.

00:10:59.140 I, I was there 2018, but then I came back, uh, after COVID.

00:11:03.500 So, like, 2021?

00:11:05.320 Yeah.

00:11:05.940 So, a couple years now.

00:11:08.100 And, I mean, even before you were working in SED, is there, like, a different word I can,

00:11:15.320 just because YouTube's finicky with this?

00:11:17.420 Yeah.

00:11:17.840 What's a, like, is there a French word for brothel?

00:11:20.880 Um.

00:11:22.200 Bordello?

00:11:22.740 Wait, bordello?

00:11:23.640 I think there, I think there, I think there is.

00:11:25.800 It's, um, what is a bordello?

00:11:28.040 The red light district, uh, mm, that's a wine.

00:11:30.040 The legal red light district?

00:11:31.880 Oh, bordello.

00:11:32.680 Bordello.

00:11:33.220 That works.

00:11:33.700 Thank you.

00:11:34.240 Okay, I'm going to say bordello.

00:11:35.660 I like that.

00:11:36.480 Bordello.

00:11:36.700 Sounds like a wine.

00:11:37.600 I know.

00:11:38.260 I thought he said a bordello.

00:11:38.760 I'm at the bordello.

00:11:39.860 All right.

00:11:40.300 My intuition was correct.

00:11:42.260 All right.

00:11:43.100 So, you work in a bordello.

00:11:44.780 Yes, I do.

00:11:45.340 That's how you should introduce yourself to people.

00:11:46.920 It's a little more vague, so they might think, oh, fancy.

00:11:49.340 And a courtesan. 0.97

00:11:50.220 Yeah, there you go.

00:11:51.100 Um, so before your work in the bordello, were you doing that manner of work previously?

00:12:02.980 Yes.

00:12:03.340 I was independent for some time.

00:12:05.740 Escorting?

00:12:06.420 Yes.

00:12:07.020 Okay.

00:12:07.320 And, uh, then, uh, before that, I was a dancer.

00:12:10.440 I worked at Cheetahs, Spearmint Rhino, um, and then Deja Vu in San Diego.

00:12:15.460 Uh, and then, you know, the OnlyFans, and I did Playboy, uh, TV.

00:12:19.400 I was an actor.

00:12:20.420 Okay.

00:12:21.100 That was, that was real nice.

00:12:23.220 Is there a lot of demand for, there must, I assume there must be for, like, you currently

00:12:28.020 do OF, correct?

00:12:29.160 Uh, I do, but I, I've kind of changed it.

00:12:32.560 It became harder for me to do it, um, after that.

00:12:35.560 So, I think my energy levels, so I try to just do more of, like, a self-care one where

00:12:41.040 it's, like, if people, I send free photographs every day, and if people want to send a tip,

00:12:46.980 then they do it, and I'll just send it, you know, pictures and stuff.

00:12:50.240 Um, before it was a little more detailed, and stuff like that.

00:12:55.080 Okay.

00:12:56.060 Um, so, how long have you been escorting?

00:13:02.020 Ooh, I would say, gosh, since I was 22 years old.

00:13:06.040 I'm 30 now.

00:13:06.880 Okay.

00:13:07.500 Yeah.

00:13:07.760 Do you know how many, like, have you kept count of how many, um, what's the term, Johns

00:13:14.200 or whatever?

00:13:14.860 Oh, yeah, but I, you know, I didn't keep count.

00:13:18.120 I should have, um, but, uh.

00:13:20.040 You had to estimate.

00:13:21.140 You know what?

00:13:22.120 I don't know the estimate of that, but you know what?

00:13:24.120 I do remember the ones where I was disappointed that they were, like, they fantasized about

00:13:31.320 me before they met me, and the ones I remember, it was eight, and they said, you did not live

00:13:36.960 up to my fantasy, and I said, wow, like, I remember those years.

00:13:41.520 What?

00:13:41.960 I know.

00:13:42.340 Wait, hold on.

00:13:43.360 I, yeah, yeah, I remember them.

00:13:44.940 So you remember the eight.

00:13:45.840 Oh, that's crazy.

00:13:46.040 Out of all those years.

00:13:47.000 Eight.

00:13:47.040 Of your clientele that, uh.

00:13:49.820 Yeah.

00:13:50.640 They were disappointed?

00:13:52.460 Yeah.

00:13:52.580 They left a negative Yelp review?

00:13:54.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:55.060 I thought that.

00:13:56.100 Okay.

00:13:56.560 That happened before.

00:13:57.280 And it feels a little bad, because you're like, man, I gave, I gave, I gave all myself.

00:14:01.960 You know, it hurts a little bit.

00:14:03.880 Yeah.

00:14:05.140 I'm really, so I study Spanish.

00:14:07.160 Sexual Spirituality.

00:14:08.320 Oh.

00:14:08.600 I'm going to be going to an international school.

00:14:10.900 Huh?

00:14:11.660 Yes.

00:14:12.240 Nick, can you lower it to, like, 90 or something?

00:14:14.620 Continue.

00:14:15.260 I go to the International School of Temple Arts, and they have a sacred sexuality course,

00:14:20.200 and it's on sexual shamanism.

00:14:22.500 They teach tantra.

00:14:23.720 They teach all that.

00:14:24.700 And I believe that when I really connect with someone, I really, you know, in that way,

00:14:29.460 I'm giving all myself.

00:14:30.380 So it does hurt me if, like, emotionally, if, you know, I hear something like that, because

00:14:35.560 it's like, man, I feel like I gave all myself, and that, yeah.

00:14:39.760 You're, you're a shaman?

00:14:41.940 I wish.

00:14:42.660 Like, for the Horde or the Alliance?

00:14:44.180 I wish, but I'm, I, I'm going to the, uh, International, uh...

00:14:48.340 No, I mean, like, World of Warcraft.

00:14:52.120 Like, are you a classic Andy, or, like, because you said you're a shaman, so...

00:14:55.260 Oh, no, they have, um...

00:14:56.700 Like, did you play Orc or Troll for Torrin?

00:14:58.720 Oh, those, I don't do any of those.

00:15:01.400 I, I did play Grand Theft Auto when I was younger.

00:15:05.500 Wait, so you're, but are you, do you get a sex shaman certification?

00:15:10.020 You can, yes. 0.86

00:15:10.800 Are you a certified sex shaman? 0.94

00:15:12.460 No, not yet. 0.75

00:15:13.560 I hope that would be real neat, though.

00:15:14.840 Can, am I able to become a sex shaman?

00:15:16.840 You can.

00:15:17.220 In ISTA schools, it's $2,500 for a week of the courses, and you can go there, and you

00:15:24.300 spiritually, they cleanse you.

00:15:25.420 They talk about your traumas and everything, and they kind of release...

00:15:28.300 So, is there, like, a magic component?

00:15:30.440 Like, is, like, shamanism, there's typically, like, magic involved.

00:15:33.900 Um, is there, like, good magic and then dark magic?

00:15:37.720 Like, is there dark sexual magic?

00:15:39.820 I believe there is.

00:15:40.620 Really?

00:15:41.020 Um, I believe there is.

00:15:42.160 They don't teach that at the certification course, though.

00:15:44.680 Where do you have to go?

00:15:45.520 Like, Hogwarts, or?

00:15:48.580 They, uh, it's the ISTA school.

00:15:51.020 It's in Arizona.

00:15:51.780 Well, they have them everywhere. 0.89

00:15:52.540 No, for, like, the black magic shaman sex. 0.95

00:15:54.380 I don't do that one. 0.96

00:15:56.460 Okay.

00:15:56.980 I don't do that one.

00:15:58.140 Oh, okay.

00:15:58.560 Gotcha.

00:15:58.900 Yeah.

00:15:59.600 I'm a good witch.

00:16:03.100 Okay.

00:16:03.780 That's, um, so, did, at any point, did you ever have a PINP?

00:16:09.700 Uh, I did.

00:16:11.600 Okay.

00:16:12.060 Yes.

00:16:13.280 Good times.

00:16:13.820 It, you know, it was, uh, when I was really young and I didn't really understand the industry.

00:16:24.320 Um, I believe that I'm glad that I found the holistic, uh, route, um, with the sexual shamanism.

00:16:31.200 And I'm glad that I did find the legal brothels because that just wasn't, that wasn't my style.

00:16:37.380 I think I was doing it in survival mode and now I'm doing it to thrive.

00:16:40.620 And I, I really do it to try to make people feel good and to make myself feel good.

00:16:44.740 So, that's, that's what I'm doing now. 0.99

00:16:51.280 Holy shit. 0.99

00:16:52.300 Dude, thank you, man. 0.99

00:16:54.500 Yo, Brian, here is the donation I was mentioning about from Instagram.

00:16:59.480 I am never up when you were streaming, but I wanted to contribute something for your work.

00:17:04.420 I like watching in part as it reminds me of my younger years in the dating world.

00:17:09.020 Aw.

00:17:09.300 Yo, uh, P, thank you, man.

00:17:11.720 He, uh, he's pre-submitted this, uh, prior to the, uh, show.

00:17:15.240 So, really, thank you, really appreciate it, man.

00:17:17.640 Uh, thank you so much.

00:17:18.480 Really appreciate all the patronage, uh, your legend.

00:17:20.740 We were messaging on Instagram.

00:17:21.660 So, thank you, man.

00:17:22.380 Really appreciate your, uh, patronage here.

00:17:24.560 Uh, so, wait, just to go back.

00:17:26.560 Uh, okay.

00:17:29.040 Um, what?

00:17:32.000 Can I ask?

00:17:33.240 Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

00:17:33.880 What, what is a bordello?

00:17:37.040 Oh, a bordello?

00:17:38.120 Yeah, I, I genuinely don't know what it is, so I'm just, like, kind of questioning, yeah.

00:17:42.840 So, it's a legal bordello in Nevada.

00:17:45.880 They have, uh, many of them, and they're legal, and you can go there to get, uh, uh, treated.

00:17:52.900 Let's say that.

00:17:53.680 Oh, okay.

00:17:54.140 And you go there, and, you know, yeah, they, they pay.

00:17:57.600 Everything is tested.

00:17:59.020 It's kind of like a adult film star, but no camera.

00:18:02.380 That's what it's kind of like.

00:18:03.360 Oh, okay.

00:18:03.460 Only people can film films if they want for a certain, uh, you know, amount.

00:18:08.580 They can.

00:18:09.440 Oh, okay.

00:18:10.240 Do you live on the property of it, or is it, like, off-site?

00:18:13.720 Uh, it's on the property, but, uh, we don't live there, but we do tours.

00:18:17.980 So, they call them tours where we come in for a couple weeks.

00:18:20.820 Sometimes girls stay a month, but then they take off back home and, and go back. 1.00

00:18:26.360 Okay.

00:18:27.060 I have a question.

00:18:27.800 Do you used to live in Las Vegas?

00:18:29.440 Uh, no.

00:18:30.200 That's a dream.

00:18:31.700 Yeah.

00:18:32.060 I also, I wanted to say, I'm really proud of you for getting away from that PIMP stuff.

00:18:37.220 I also danced in Vegas for seven years, and I have friends who are still, like, stuck

00:18:41.440 in that so many years later, so congratulations for, like, finally getting out of that.

00:18:46.080 Thank you.

00:18:46.540 What if they're, like, PIMP?

00:18:47.960 Like, what if he was, like, a good PIMP, though?

00:18:50.740 There's no such thing.

00:18:51.840 There's definitely, you could be a good PIMP.

00:18:54.180 I feel like I, I outgrew it.

00:18:55.980 Okay.

00:18:56.200 Yeah.

00:18:57.220 What made you want to get into the industry?

00:18:58.840 You said you started when you were 22?

00:19:00.720 Mm-hmm.

00:19:00.980 Um, I think that, uh, there's, there's the time where, I think I was in survival mode

00:19:07.580 where, so I, I had originally worked a life insurance company, so I did have a job before.

00:19:12.260 I worked at McDonald's for five years before that, um, but then I did life insurance, and

00:19:17.320 then I did dancing, um, that was cool, but I think what happened was, is when the, when

00:19:23.840 you're an actor and your show ends, you get, like, this, you know, you get in a spiral.

00:19:28.180 Like, you, you, you were like, I miss my show.

00:19:30.740 I, the show ended at Playboy, and I was upset, and so I, I don't know.

00:19:36.020 I kind of became, like, lazy a little bit.

00:19:38.220 Maybe it was depression or something, but I, I ended up connecting with someone, and I ended

00:19:43.340 up doing these extracurricular things outside of the club, and one thing ended not well,

00:19:49.780 and after that, I had a good friend, she is an adult film star, and she helped me, and

00:19:55.800 she took me, um, her name's Paisley Porter, by the way, um, she, um, she, uh, showed me

00:20:02.620 the Bordello in Nevada, and it really helped my life, like, so much.

00:20:08.500 I feel like the question is, like, what made you start sex work?

00:20:12.400 Yeah, like, how, why did you get into sex work?

00:20:14.460 Gotcha, I, I think that I was always very conservative growing up, and our sexuality,

00:20:21.620 my, my mother, she didn't really allow us to be feminine, really, we had to kind of 0.99

00:20:26.960 just wear clothes that were not feminine, really, and, uh, if we showed, like, a little

00:20:31.460 skin or something, we grew up real conservative, like, I would door knock, I was a, uh, by, like,

00:20:36.880 a Baptist, and we would go to doors when we were kids and knock and try to convert people,

00:20:40.400 and so I would do that, and, uh, I would say that years of that, um, it just, it was

00:20:48.420 the experimental, I was like, wow, I could be sexy now, like, what, guys think I'm hot?

00:20:52.180 Like, I'm used to wearing a suit, a lot of people used to think I was a lesbian, or they 1.00

00:20:56.340 used to think that, uh, because I wouldn't, I would dress in a suit every day, and I just

00:21:01.140 would wear clothes that covered all of my body, and it was neat exploring that, yeah.

00:21:06.560 Would you consider yourself still, like, religious? Like, do you feel like the beliefs that you

00:21:10.960 grew up with are still kind of, like, with you?

00:21:13.460 I think they've morphed, but I definitely think that they're, there's still an element

00:21:17.560 there, definitely, yeah.

00:21:22.000 Uh, I noticed you had, I don't know if it's, you have a Nirvana tattoo on your, somewhere?

00:21:26.600 I did, I actually covered it up with, oh, it's gone, okay.

00:21:29.540 I actually covered it up with a flower, but I did, it was for the band, I like rock and roll.

00:21:33.020 Okay, wait, question for you, okay.

00:21:35.200 Yeah.

00:21:35.980 Kurt Cobain walks into the brothel, but he's out of money.

00:21:38.820 Okay.

00:21:39.420 You still?

00:21:40.620 Not him, but the Joker.

00:21:43.440 The Heath Ledger Joker.

00:21:45.740 I mean, you gotta pay something.

00:21:47.660 He wasn't in Nirvana, though, but.

00:21:49.320 Oh, okay.

00:21:50.440 Okay, Heath Ledger, you serve us for free, but not, not Kurt Cobain.

00:21:55.060 Oh, no, but not even Heath Ledger, Heath Ledger as the Joker.

00:21:58.340 The Joker, as the Joker. 0.99

00:21:59.920 Wow, that's some dark shit right there. 0.99

00:22:01.340 Holy, what about Joaquin Phoenix Joker? 1.00

00:22:03.220 Ah, no.

00:22:03.960 No, not, okay, not sexy enough.

00:22:06.620 No.

00:22:06.940 Joaquin, but Heath Ledger Joker.

00:22:09.080 Because the Heath Ledger Joker changed my life.

00:22:12.900 Just his performance.

00:22:13.800 Okay, how did he, how did he change your life?

00:22:16.620 I wrote a song about him, but it's coming out next year, but just his presence, I think

00:22:20.940 I was going through a real tough time in life, and just his presence, just his, I watched

00:22:26.540 The Dark Knight, like, over 200 times, and I would just watch it, and I'd just.

00:22:30.200 Did you ever.

00:22:33.580 No, not to the movie, surprisingly.

00:22:36.080 Okay.

00:22:36.500 But I could see, I'm like, hmm, but.

00:22:41.060 Okay, sorry, I derailed that.

00:22:43.820 Okay, okay, so you saw the movie 200 times.

00:22:46.380 And it changed, it just made me feel strong watching his character, and it just, I don't

00:22:52.600 know, I feel like that's, like, my strong character, if that makes any sort of sense.

00:22:56.980 Okay.

00:22:57.340 Yeah.

00:22:57.580 All right, okay, interesting, interesting, okay, so let's just go touch on a few other

00:23:06.120 people here, so, boyfriend one month, single, single, single, relationship, single, relationship,

00:23:14.880 relationship.

00:23:15.860 She has a fiance.

00:23:17.680 Oh, yes, there you have it.

00:23:20.820 So, just as a point of clarification for those of you who are single, what's that really

00:23:26.320 mean, you know?

00:23:28.040 Because, like, there's a, come on, guys, there's a guy in the picture, for those of you who

00:23:32.440 are single, come on, there's a guy in the picture, right?

00:23:34.160 No, no, no.

00:23:34.840 Zero.

00:23:35.380 No?

00:23:35.540 There's not, there's zero.

00:23:37.140 Like, there's a guy you're texting, maybe you guys, on a Thursday at 11 p.m., you know?

00:23:43.020 No, no, no.

00:23:44.040 Nothing?

00:23:44.480 No.

00:23:45.020 Nothing.

00:23:46.500 I mean, there's people I find attractive, but I'm not talking to anyone, no.

00:23:49.700 Okay.

00:23:51.260 You too?

00:23:52.360 No.

00:23:52.600 There's a dude in the picture, come on.

00:23:54.080 No.

00:23:54.340 Um, yeah, I guess, but I don't really want to comment on that too much.

00:24:01.220 What do you mean?

00:24:03.360 What did?

00:24:04.140 I mean, F it.

00:24:06.680 There you go.

00:24:10.260 Yeah, so, I, I guess, on background, I was living in Vegas for, like, seven years, and

00:24:16.220 then I recently moved back to my hometown because of, I had some surgeries.

00:24:19.760 And so, I have a thing for, like, guys in my hometown, so I totally am, like, hooking

00:24:25.500 up with somebody in my hometown.

00:24:26.540 But, it's, uh, not serious, and I don't really want it to be serious because I don't want

00:24:32.120 to be stuck there.

00:24:32.940 Where's your hometown?

00:24:34.180 Santa Rosa, California.

00:24:35.920 You have a thing for guys in your hometown?

00:24:38.700 I've literally only seen the guys in my hometown.

00:24:41.180 But you don't want to stay there.

00:24:42.400 I don't want to stay there.

00:24:43.380 Actually, I tend to bring them with me to Vegas.

00:24:45.560 I have an MO.

00:24:46.200 I've only had two serious relationships, and they're both from my hometown.

00:24:49.920 I brought them both to Vegas.

00:24:52.160 Well, you love Vegas.

00:24:53.580 I love Vegas.

00:24:54.480 Yeah.

00:24:55.100 Me too.

00:24:56.120 Wait, so, okay, and just really quick on the, I don't want to linger too long on the

00:25:01.080 brothel stuff, but maybe we'll touch back on it later.

00:25:04.140 Given the type of work you do, you said you are single.

00:25:07.420 You said you've been single for, what, three years now?

00:25:09.060 Mm-hmm.

00:25:11.340 I suspect that's pretty hard to date when you're prostituting.

00:25:18.160 Yeah.

00:25:18.640 Yeah.

00:25:19.720 Yeah.

00:25:20.200 It's difficult, because you're gone for prolonged periods of time, the emotional connections,

00:25:25.180 and it just, it can be real complicated for someone to understand, and sometimes it's

00:25:29.700 just better to be like, all right, maybe I'll just, this is that chapter of my life, and

00:25:33.920 that's what it is.

00:25:35.220 Sure.

00:25:35.920 Do you kind of want to be, like, throughout your life, maybe more like lone wolf, or would

00:25:42.320 you like one day to find a long-term partner, maybe get married, maybe have kids?

00:25:46.540 Where are you at with that?

00:25:47.920 So, I can, I don't have the ability to have children, but I've always been, I've always

00:25:54.580 loved entertainment.

00:25:55.400 Sure.

00:25:55.720 And even though I have worked in the bordellos, it's so funny, like, little kids are on the

00:26:00.020 age of, I don't really dress provocatively, like, when I go out, like, this is something

00:26:03.240 special, like, but they always come up to me, and they grab, and they go, ah, like, they

00:26:07.620 get so excited.

00:26:08.300 So, I'm like, oh, wow, like, I would love to entertain families one day.

00:26:11.480 In, like, Las Vegas, I just, I have to figure out how, but I think that I would dedicate

00:26:16.820 my life to that, and if someone was okay with me doing that, then I would definitely be in

00:26:24.740 a relationship with them.

00:26:25.800 When you say dedicate your life, do you mean to your partner, or to your current work?

00:26:30.380 I, I want to dedicate my life to entertainment, and then, but, but not fully adult entertainment.

00:26:37.160 Eventually, I would love to entertain families, like, kind of grow beyond that.

00:26:42.600 What do you mean, when, what do you mean entertain families?

00:26:44.680 I would love to put on a show one day, and make it.

00:26:47.460 Like a drag show?

00:26:48.400 No, not that.

00:26:50.300 But, like, entertain, like, a clown? 0.96

00:26:52.100 You want to be a clown? 0.94

00:26:52.900 No. 0.91

00:26:53.220 Like, for birthday parties?

00:26:54.300 I know.

00:26:55.720 Birthday.

00:26:56.540 Entertain families.

00:26:57.500 I'm just trying to think, what, like, for birthday parties, right?

00:26:59.860 Bar mitzvahs? 0.89

00:27:00.300 What are we talking?

00:27:00.940 So, music.

00:27:02.260 Okay, you're a musician, right?

00:27:03.240 Yes, and I would love to do, like, a really relaxing show.

00:27:06.580 I feel like we live in such an overstimulated world, like, I would love to make a show where

00:27:11.000 families could go and just relax, and that's something, my, one of my dreams that I'm obsessed

00:27:16.480 about, and so, maybe one day it'll happen.

00:27:18.660 You play an instrument?

00:27:19.720 Piano, and I'm learning guitar.

00:27:21.040 I just bought one yesterday.

00:27:22.100 Do you sing two, or?

00:27:22.980 Yeah.

00:27:23.700 Okay.

00:27:23.960 Okay, so, but do you potentially see yourself having, like, a forever,

00:27:30.300 partner, long-term relationship, marriage, that sort of thing, or?

00:27:33.320 Okay.

00:27:34.400 I mean, but it seems like you're aware that your current means of employment has been

00:27:41.880 a hindrance to your ability to find, because it sounds like from your own self-acknowledgement,

00:27:51.180 and it's been difficult.

00:27:53.460 Yes, yes.

00:27:54.160 Okay.

00:27:54.900 Would you be willing to stop that work if a good guy came along?

00:27:59.640 I would think so.

00:28:01.080 I just think that as long as my entertainment dreams could be supported, because that's

00:28:05.560 something real big to me, and I know they're expensive, because it's expensive doing music

00:28:09.300 and entertainment.

00:28:10.340 It's real expensive.

00:28:11.000 So, if that was supported, then yes, then I, yeah.

00:28:15.900 I do have a question.

00:28:16.880 Yes.

00:28:16.940 How do you see yourself, I guess, like, maintaining, like, a long-lasting, healthy marriage when

00:28:21.140 you're having sexual and emotional connections with so many other people?

00:28:24.900 Mm-hmm.

00:28:25.480 I think that I would probably want to make sure that that person was okay with it.

00:28:31.860 I would make sure that I continue to go to these spirituals.

00:28:35.300 So, you go up in levels with these shamanistic retreats.

00:28:38.080 You can go to, like, Costa Rica, you can work your way up.

00:28:42.320 So, I would always keep it more spiritual, I feel, like, that's my comfort zone.

00:28:46.480 If I start going out of that, it starts to become a little hollow for me, so, in my

00:28:53.000 own opinion, but I really love that sexual healing industry. 1.00

00:28:59.660 I feel like it did heal a part of myself, and I hopefully heal others, too, if I, you

00:29:05.100 know, separate eight people.

00:29:06.460 I only ask because I feel like in a marriage, like, it's more than just, like, spiritual

00:29:09.560 and sexual.

00:29:10.280 There's, like, a lot of things to, like, take into consideration.

00:29:13.120 So, I guess my question is more so, like, how do you, like, blur those lines, kind of,

00:29:17.460 or not blur those lines more so?

00:29:19.020 I think it would need to be okay with the partner.

00:29:21.840 I'd need to make sure, say, how do you feel about me doing that?

00:29:24.400 And they would already know, like, my story and that.

00:29:27.380 And so, I would just be like, if that's okay with you, cool.

00:29:31.320 But if it's not, then I totally understand you could leave any time you need to, and I

00:29:35.960 understand I'm not going to have any hurt.

00:29:38.240 I mean, okay, I'll probably have some hurt feelings, but I want them to be happy, too.

00:29:44.440 How many days a week do you work at the Bordello?

00:29:46.960 So, that is a very interesting question that I'm glad that you asked.

00:29:53.400 Sometimes I feel like after I see some people that are hurting a lot, I can't work for, like,

00:29:58.260 two days.

00:29:58.920 I just can't get out of bed.

00:30:00.420 And because I feel their emotions, like, in me.

00:30:02.480 Sometimes I get real angry and worked up over nothing.

00:30:05.800 And then sometimes I cry out of nowhere.

00:30:07.940 And I know in the spirituality classes, they teach that that's an emotional transfer of that

00:30:13.480 energy.

00:30:13.860 And so, sometimes it wipes you out, and sometimes it doesn't.

00:30:17.560 I would say I try to space things out probably a couple days a week there.

00:30:23.360 Probably a week?

00:30:23.980 Probably like four to five if I could.

00:30:25.960 Sure.

00:30:26.660 Yeah.

00:30:27.140 Average three to five?

00:30:29.540 I would say that.

00:30:30.220 Yeah.

00:30:30.580 Yeah.

00:30:31.040 How many people do you see per day?

00:30:33.340 I try my hardest to only see one because I don't like to mix energies.

00:30:38.420 Just one?

00:30:39.100 Okay.

00:30:39.580 I do.

00:30:40.260 What's the rate?

00:30:41.220 Uh, well, we aren't allowed to, uh.

00:30:43.920 You can't disclose?

00:30:44.600 Yeah.

00:30:45.180 Is it negotiated?

00:30:46.460 Like.

00:30:46.780 It is.

00:30:47.640 Um.

00:30:47.980 Is it on a per person basis?

00:30:49.480 Or is it like there's a flat rate?

00:30:50.900 Um.

00:30:51.380 So, the girls.

00:30:52.500 Oh, it depends on what the dude wants.

00:30:54.180 Yeah.

00:30:54.540 It depends.

00:30:55.000 It depends on what he wants.

00:30:55.960 If he wants something longer.

00:30:57.000 I try to do time only.

00:30:58.680 Um.

00:30:59.460 But for my sexual healing, I do not charge extra for that.

00:31:02.880 That it can be in the basic, you know, sessions.

00:31:07.220 Um.

00:31:07.660 Because I feel like if I'm charging extra for it, it's not very spiritual.

00:31:10.800 It seems very capitalistic.

00:31:12.640 Um.

00:31:13.100 So, so I, I feel like, hey, if that, they come into me for that, I'm gonna give them

00:31:16.920 that.

00:31:17.220 And that's, that's what's gonna happen.

00:31:19.280 What do you mean by sexual healing?

00:31:20.920 Like, what is that?

00:31:23.340 Um.

00:31:23.480 So that, when, when we bond with another human, especially like through, through, uh, kissing

00:31:32.320 or through intercourse, um, I just didn't know what to say.

00:31:36.880 That's fine.

00:31:37.140 That's fine.

00:31:37.760 Uh.

00:31:39.400 I feel like it can release someone's emotions.

00:31:41.640 I feel like I try to take on those emotions that that person has because I want to, like,

00:31:47.440 take away their pain.

00:31:48.560 Mm-hmm.

00:31:48.980 Um.

00:31:49.600 Um, sometimes I feel like that's when I get wiped out if I, you know, if I feel like,

00:31:55.280 whoa, I just took on too much.

00:31:56.700 Like, but then I just rest.

00:31:59.560 Yo, Brandon.

00:32:00.040 Brandon Mills donated $100. 0.97

00:32:02.580 Holy crap. 0.88

00:32:03.660 Next person, start talking, please. 0.97

00:32:07.060 I, I think it's interesting.

00:32:08.560 I don't think we've ever had.

00:32:09.960 I agree.

00:32:10.680 I have a question as well.

00:32:11.920 It's very interesting.

00:32:13.160 Yeah, I don't think we've ever had some.

00:32:14.940 First off, thank you, Brandon.

00:32:15.860 Um.

00:32:16.300 I don't think we've had, like, a, someone who's worked in a board.

00:32:18.860 Or Dello on the show.

00:32:20.280 What's your question, Madison?

00:32:21.500 Um, since you like to pursue, I guess, like, intercourse in a, uh, spiritual way, I would

00:32:28.120 say it's very much so also, like, emotional, correct?

00:32:30.760 Yes.

00:32:31.120 Yes.

00:32:31.340 Do you ever feel emotionally tied to the people that?

00:32:35.200 Yes.

00:32:35.560 Like, in a very strong way, where you feel like you want to be with them, or is it kind

00:32:40.260 of just, like, you know it's your job in a way?

00:32:42.660 I can kind of feel when they're having a bad day.

00:32:44.740 And even when they're not there, like, I can feel it.

00:32:47.200 Like, I'm like, that person might be having a hard time.

00:32:49.760 And I just, I just know it.

00:32:51.080 Like, it.

00:32:52.180 Do you ever, like, I guess when I mean, like, emotional, like.

00:32:56.300 Bonding with them?

00:32:57.180 Yeah.

00:32:57.620 I'm curious.

00:32:58.580 I check up on them.

00:32:59.120 In a relationship type of emotional way, though.

00:33:01.600 Like, do you ever see that with some of the people that you come across?

00:33:04.820 Like, do you ever feel a certain way towards them?

00:33:08.280 I think it's more like human to human.

00:33:09.840 Like, I'm like, wow, like, I respect this person as a human being, and they found me,

00:33:13.740 and I found them, and we're in a soul group.

00:33:15.980 Like, this is happening.

00:33:17.440 Also, do, like, you work, I'm sure you work with, like, other women as well doing that. 0.61

00:33:21.940 Do they do it, like, spiritually as well?

00:33:24.120 Or is it just kind of you who does it spiritually?

00:33:25.860 Some probably.

00:33:26.580 Some probably could.

00:33:28.700 Interesting.

00:33:29.560 Yeah.

00:33:30.160 I saw it.

00:33:31.080 Okay.

00:33:31.920 Hold on.

00:33:32.560 Let's do this.

00:33:35.200 We're going to switch topics here a little bit.

00:33:37.860 So, have any of you ever dated or hooked up with someone who is famous?

00:33:45.020 What do we consider famous?

00:33:48.380 Like, well-known.

00:33:51.320 So, I mean, the first tier would be, like, anything in, like, more traditional media.

00:33:56.080 So, actor, musician.

00:33:59.280 And then the next tier would be, like, content, internet, YouTuber.

00:34:03.580 Like, that's kind of a, actually, I think it goes like this.

00:34:06.760 So, you have, I think you have athlete, musician, actor.

00:34:10.580 And then maybe stand-up comedian, ventriloquist, and then YouTuber, content creator down here.

00:34:19.900 And, yeah.

00:34:21.180 I mean, my boyfriend's a YouTuber, but, sorry.

00:34:24.140 My boyfriend's a YouTuber, but I don't know if it would qualify as, I don't know.

00:34:28.480 Would we know him?

00:34:30.100 Anyone who's in the fitness industry would.

00:34:31.960 I don't think anyone here would.

00:34:33.820 What's his name?

00:34:34.840 It's him and his brother.

00:34:35.980 It's the Tren twins.

00:34:38.280 I'm dating one of them, not both of them.

00:34:41.740 Oh, okay.

00:34:42.680 Really?

00:34:44.320 Does he do Tren?

00:34:45.980 He did for a month.

00:34:47.200 Okay.

00:34:47.780 And then stopped.

00:34:48.640 I think I'm allowed to say that.

00:34:49.700 Yeah, I'm sure it's fine.

00:34:50.280 I'm really sorry about that.

00:34:50.520 Well, you two are, would you consider yourself bodybuilders, like, fitness?

00:34:54.960 Technically, yeah.

00:34:55.640 We're bodybuilders, technically.

00:34:57.560 Here, show us the try.

00:34:58.880 We try not to classify ourselves. 0.99

00:35:02.300 Well, damn, Myron, okay. 0.99

00:35:05.200 Wait, double bye? 1.00

00:35:06.260 Double bye?

00:35:06.640 Double bye?

00:35:07.520 Hold on.

00:35:07.900 Oh, God, I'm scared.

00:35:10.420 Oh, wait.

00:35:11.040 We can't scoot that way a little bit?

00:35:13.780 Or just kind of like, yeah, there you go.

00:35:14.960 Double bye?

00:35:15.720 Boom.

00:35:16.240 Flock, Myron.

00:35:17.880 Let's see you.

00:35:18.680 What about you?

00:35:19.220 Yeah, you got.

00:35:20.060 Oh, God.

00:35:20.460 She mogs me. 0.96

00:35:21.300 It's bad.

00:35:22.060 Oh, wait.

00:35:22.380 I can't even see.

00:35:23.080 You can't even see the mic's blocking.

00:35:24.480 The mic.

00:35:24.980 Can you maybe, should we do a little stand?

00:35:26.860 You wanted to, can you stand?

00:35:27.760 Do you want me to stand and flex?

00:35:29.480 Or do like a, yeah, I guess so.

00:35:31.860 Okay, you want me to stand?

00:35:35.160 You can't even see anymore.

00:35:37.480 I think if you, I think if you.

00:35:38.760 Can I see?

00:35:39.500 Oh, wow. 1.00

00:35:40.020 Damn. 1.00

00:35:40.280 Roll your sleeves up, girl. 1.00

00:35:42.080 Roll my sleeves up.

00:35:42.860 Wow.

00:35:43.460 Oh, okay.

00:35:43.900 Yeah, look at my shoulder, man.

00:35:45.360 For the delts.

00:35:47.040 Okay, all right.

00:35:47.780 I'm literally about to get attacked for being too masculine.

00:35:50.680 I just know it's coming.

00:35:51.920 Incoming young man comments.

00:35:52.800 Do you get that?

00:35:53.920 Like, do you consider yourself to be, I mean, you're physically fit, but like in terms of

00:35:58.100 your personality or your temperament, do you consider yourself a bit more masculine or

00:36:02.200 dominant or?

00:36:03.700 I think naturally considering our job, we definitely feel masculine in the gym because lifting weight

00:36:10.000 is like a masculine act, I would say.

00:36:12.600 Okay, and I, I mean, like, I would consider myself a girly girl, but obviously in the

00:36:18.100 gym, I do feel masculine.

00:36:19.720 Yeah.

00:36:21.480 But like in a relationship?

00:36:23.020 In a relationship?

00:36:24.420 No, I don't.

00:36:25.300 You don't want to be like more dominant in the relationship?

00:36:28.060 No, definitely not. 0.98

00:36:28.860 Okay, so like you don't want to like peg a dude and like type of shit? 0.99

00:36:31.480 No, no, no. 0.99

00:36:33.120 I mean, no.

00:36:34.000 Oh, okay.

00:36:34.220 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:36.200 Okay, okay, okay.

00:36:37.440 Definitely not.

00:36:38.240 In my relationship, I would not want to peg my boyfriend. 1.00

00:36:41.720 Okay, good to know, good to know.

00:36:44.380 Gentlemen, if you're watching, okay.

00:36:48.000 So, okay, you're dating a kind of like content creator.

00:36:54.700 Yeah.

00:36:55.240 The Trend Twins? 0.91

00:36:56.720 What's Trend?

00:36:57.520 Twins Brothers? 0.89

00:36:57.940 Trend is a type of steroid.

00:37:00.180 Yeah.

00:37:00.380 Oh, yeah.

00:37:02.520 What about you?

00:37:03.320 Have you ever dated someone noteworthy, famous?

00:37:07.680 I dated a famous like million slash billionaire.

00:37:13.040 Yeah, I think.

00:37:13.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:14.080 But I don't really want to name drop.

00:37:17.320 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:37:18.040 You said.

00:37:18.760 I know.

00:37:19.200 I said I didn't sign an NDA.

00:37:20.360 I didn't sign an NDA.

00:37:21.780 I've got all kinds of crazy stories.

00:37:23.340 I know, but now I'm kind of scared because, I mean, I'm willing to tell the stories, but

00:37:27.420 he is a million slash billionaire, so I don't want him to come after me.

00:37:30.920 Million slash, is he a billionaire or a millionaire?

00:37:33.720 I think him as himself is a millionaire, but I think his family is a billionaire.

00:37:38.180 Yeah.

00:37:39.260 So, wait, you said here you were in an open relationship for six years.

00:37:45.480 Yeah, with my first boyfriend.

00:37:47.280 Oh, but when I, when I, oh, no, okay, yeah, you did say six years, your first boyfriend.

00:37:50.800 Yeah.

00:37:50.940 Was that with said person, said millionaire guy?

00:37:54.200 No.

00:37:54.260 Do you want, what's his name?

00:37:55.100 Do you want to say, I mean, you don't, you don't have to, you don't have to, but.

00:37:57.560 No, I'm too scared.

00:37:58.900 I'm sorry.

00:37:59.500 Like, I thought about it, but I don't know.

00:38:01.480 It's not worth it to me.

00:38:03.100 Okay.

00:38:03.620 Yeah.

00:38:04.600 You said you had some crazy stories or do you not want to even share those?

00:38:08.260 I mean.

00:38:08.780 You don't have to.

00:38:09.580 They'll come up as like, oh, with him?

00:38:11.700 Sure.

00:38:12.060 Oh, with the millionaire?

00:38:12.940 Oh, my gosh.

00:38:13.900 Yeah.

00:38:14.020 Yeah, he was a, I think, weirdo in a way.

00:38:18.580 Can we say what he owned vaguely?

00:38:21.260 Like, not the specific thing, but.

00:38:23.360 He owns, he used to own a basketball team and he opened a hotel in Las Vegas.

00:38:29.800 Oh, okay.

00:38:30.540 Well, I think you've just given enough information for the chat to attempt to deduce who it is.

00:38:35.340 That's fine.

00:38:35.940 Um, I didn't say anything, so.

00:38:38.340 Hold on, just a sec.

00:38:39.060 Valdev donated $99.

00:38:40.060 Yeah, thank you, Valdev. 0.90

00:38:41.580 Goddamn, I want to eat eggs and steak off the maps as to chat. 0.81

00:38:45.080 You won't see Chase again. 0.98

00:38:46.480 His convictions and morals were given an easy test and failed.

00:38:49.920 He knows it and won't risk it again.

00:38:53.140 I, we'll see about, we'll see.

00:38:55.380 But, um, is he talking to you about the abs?

00:38:58.480 I don't have abs.

00:38:59.580 You don't, you don't have abs?

00:39:02.260 Ab check?

00:39:02.940 Yeah, she does.

00:39:03.460 She's bulking.

00:39:04.320 That's what, she's not supposed to have abs right now because she's on a bowl. 1.00

00:39:07.060 Should we do an ab check or what? 0.98

00:39:08.360 I'm scared.

00:39:09.060 I don't want to get bullied.

00:39:10.100 You won't get bullied.

00:39:11.000 You're on a bowl.

00:39:11.760 She doesn't get abs. 0.94

00:39:12.360 Ab check.

00:39:13.160 I don't even wish to do it.

00:39:13.680 Let's do an ab check. 0.92

00:39:14.860 All right.

00:39:15.380 Ab check it is.

00:39:17.360 All right.

00:39:17.780 Who, go ahead.

00:39:18.640 You, you get to go first.

00:39:19.780 You have good abs.

00:39:19.980 Maybe at the same time.

00:39:20.760 So there's a comparison factor.

00:39:22.420 You're going to go.

00:39:23.420 I don't care.

00:39:24.480 I'm scared.

00:39:25.140 I'm scared.

00:39:25.740 I like, I like, why did you want to walk in?

00:39:27.920 There you go.

00:39:28.440 See?

00:39:28.560 There's nothing there.

00:39:29.440 Oh.

00:39:29.940 Hey.

00:39:31.680 We all see.

00:39:32.680 I saw something.

00:39:33.800 Okay.

00:39:34.040 Yeah, hers are wild.

00:39:35.120 So Valdive is, I guess he's asking if, if a boyfriend you were dating requested to

00:39:43.520 eat food off of your stomach with, not like, not like for sexual, like a sexual thing

00:39:49.160 is just like, he just like, wanted, would you be down or?

00:39:53.300 If it wasn't sexual, why would he want that?

00:39:55.480 That's just like inconvenient.

00:39:57.420 No?

00:39:58.080 Okay.

00:39:58.340 So maybe it is sexual then.

00:39:59.380 Let's say it's sexual.

00:40:00.080 You can't be.

00:40:00.160 Would you oblige your boyfriend?

00:40:03.620 I mean, it depends on how much I liked him.

00:40:06.280 I would definitely think that's very strange.

00:40:09.560 What if the eggs are, like, they're not, does it depend, like, if they're scrambled versus?

00:40:14.680 Over easy.

00:40:15.360 Um, probably, like, sunny side up. 0.98

00:40:20.500 You don't want shit falling off, so. 0.91

00:40:22.480 Okay. 0.92

00:40:22.820 Definitely not scrambled.

00:40:23.680 Maybe, like, hard-boiled would be good.

00:40:26.660 Yeah, that would actually probably be the best option.

00:40:29.240 Okay.

00:40:30.140 All right.

00:40:30.680 Okay.

00:40:31.020 So Valdive, I've put in a good word, so let's see what, I tried.

00:40:36.420 Okay.

00:40:37.540 Famous dude.

00:40:38.700 Um, okay, okay.

00:40:43.000 Um, I guess he, he was a strange guy.

00:40:47.380 Um, he would, like, like, I never slept with him ever.

00:40:53.340 That was, like, he wasn't, he couldn't even, like, perform in that way.

00:40:58.200 How old was he?

00:41:01.560 In his fifties, I want to say.

00:41:04.800 Fifties, yeah.

00:41:06.100 He couldn't perform?

00:41:07.220 Yeah, he could not perform, yeah.

00:41:08.920 Even if he tried, he couldn't.

00:41:10.580 Wait, what?

00:41:11.800 Oh.

00:41:12.360 Okay.

00:41:13.160 Yeah.

00:41:13.660 Cool.

00:41:14.060 But, um.

00:41:15.620 Any, any other people besides this, uh, person?

00:41:18.540 Um, no, not notably, I mean, yeah, no, not, not, like, in a serious way.

00:41:24.840 I mean, I, like, met celebrities at the strip club and whatnot and, like, danced for them,

00:41:28.560 but, like, not, not dated.

00:41:29.880 It's different.

00:41:30.840 What about you?

00:41:31.800 All of mine, I had to sign an NDA for.

00:41:34.480 Sure.

00:41:34.780 But there was a private event in Las Vegas that I worked at.

00:41:39.400 When you say you worked at, you provided your services of an adult nature?

00:41:44.820 Uh, that.

00:41:45.280 Were you, were you dancing?

00:41:46.700 Was it proper?

00:41:48.020 It was an atmosphere model.

00:41:49.920 And there was a lot of, um, I guess, poker players, NFL, and, uh, people on TV currently.

00:41:56.480 Um, uh, but, uh, they had to sign an NDA.

00:42:00.160 Yeah.

00:42:00.520 Maybe, maybe instead of, obviously, don't say a name, but, like, you can maybe tell us

00:42:04.100 the professional athlete, rock musician, actor.

00:42:09.680 Uh, television host.

00:42:10.700 Um, I would say a comedian, uh, NFL.

00:42:18.020 Uh, and then we partied with a prince.

00:42:22.240 Saudi Arabia?

00:42:23.720 I can't say what country.

00:42:27.340 Oh, okay.

00:42:28.240 All right.

00:42:29.440 Uh, what about you?

00:42:30.620 No, I have not.

00:42:32.420 Nobody?

00:42:32.940 Nobody.

00:42:33.320 Come on.

00:42:34.540 No, I promise.

00:42:35.060 Is it one of the trend brothers?

00:42:37.380 Yeah, they're twin.

00:42:38.060 Would you guys like that if, like, you know?

00:42:39.380 I tried to convince her for a little bit because I thought it'd be cool, but no.

00:42:44.280 Yeah, no.

00:42:45.300 We, I'm not going to say anything.

00:42:47.420 Different taste?

00:42:47.940 I'm not going to say anything.

00:42:48.700 No, no, no.

00:42:49.220 Say, say, say.

00:42:49.740 Come on.

00:42:50.660 We, we tried it out, but.

00:42:52.640 Oh, with the other bro?

00:42:53.600 Yes.

00:42:54.700 No go.

00:42:55.380 It didn't work out.

00:42:56.160 It didn't work.

00:42:56.580 It just didn't work out.

00:42:57.560 Was this the four day thing?

00:42:59.300 Sorry?

00:42:59.740 Was this the four day thing?

00:43:00.760 No, no, no, no.

00:43:01.500 The four day thing was four years ago.

00:43:02.960 I just don't see myself being in a relationship right now, so.

00:43:07.800 You're focused on the gains.

00:43:09.600 Real.

00:43:10.080 Yep.

00:43:10.280 Focused on the gains.

00:43:11.060 Yeah.

00:43:11.840 Okay.

00:43:12.900 Got it.

00:43:13.880 Do you, so you're dating also a fitness content creator.

00:43:18.240 Do you guys work out together?

00:43:21.000 No.

00:43:21.560 No.

00:43:23.100 Is it kind of, oh, sorry.

00:43:24.520 Go ahead.

00:43:24.640 Sorry.

00:43:24.740 No, no, no.

00:43:25.120 You can ask your question.

00:43:26.000 Well, I interrupted you, but I was going to ask, is it, like, what do you guys, hold on.

00:43:31.200 Thank you, man.

00:43:34.560 FYI, Tren was intentionally developed to promote androgen and gain muscle mass in cattle, never

00:43:40.300 for human use.

00:43:41.880 Brian loved the show.

00:43:43.300 Thank you, man.

00:43:43.700 Ladies, you're all tense, but my boobala is a 15 tenths. 0.88

00:43:47.580 You're going to get it when you get home.

00:43:50.260 Who's?

00:43:50.880 That's my fiance.

00:43:52.420 Oh.

00:43:53.800 And he actually did Tren for a moment, and it was not a good experience for anyone.

00:43:59.460 Okay.

00:43:59.900 Yeah, we love the show.

00:44:01.200 We love the show, Brian.

00:44:02.180 Oh, well, thank you so much.

00:44:03.000 Appreciate it.

00:44:03.660 Thank you very much for your patronage, man.

00:44:07.340 Appreciate it.

00:44:09.980 What did he, what's your nickname?

00:44:12.120 Boobala? 1.00

00:44:12.820 I'm Boobala, and he's Boobaloo. 0.99

00:44:15.220 Yeah.

00:44:15.760 Boobala Boobala. 1.00

00:44:15.920 That's like the thing.

00:44:17.720 Okay.

00:44:18.160 Gotcha.

00:44:18.920 So what I was going to ask you is, is it kind of, like, cringe when you see couples working 1.00

00:44:23.240 out together, or is it, like, neutral, don't care?

00:44:26.640 It really depends.

00:44:28.400 We, luckily, have a private gym, so we don't really have to worry about other people being

00:44:34.480 there or anything.

00:44:35.440 Wait, when you say private gym?

00:44:36.740 We, the company we're sponsored by has a private gym just for athletes, so there's

00:44:41.080 never really anybody there.

00:44:42.680 But it depends.

00:44:44.200 If you're actually training, it's not cringe.

00:44:46.280 But there are a lot of couples who go and just borderline, like, you know, in the gym.

00:44:54.020 Like, it's a little crazy. 1.00

00:44:55.040 Like, PDA type shit? 1.00

00:44:56.400 Yeah, it's... 0.99

00:44:56.740 Is that, that's kind of weird?

00:44:57.680 Okay.

00:44:57.920 Yeah, that's weird.

00:44:58.620 Have you ever seen some weird, like, they're, like, he's body squatting, body weight squatting 0.99

00:45:04.840 her, like, that type of shit? 1.00

00:45:05.980 Sure. 1.00

00:45:07.280 That's, that's definitely, especially among fitness influencers, like, a big, like, click

00:45:12.000 bait thing, like, benching a chick or squatting a chick or, like, not to call out Bradley

00:45:17.040 Martin, but...

00:45:17.800 Oh.

00:45:19.080 He's nice, but, yeah, no.

00:45:20.620 A lot of his content is, like, benching chicks, squatting chicks.

00:45:23.120 Okay, got it.

00:45:24.200 Wait, and what's the company you guys are sponsored by?

00:45:26.840 Young LA.

00:45:27.220 Young LA.

00:45:28.100 It's a clothing company.

00:45:28.880 Oh, clothing company.

00:45:29.520 Yeah.

00:45:29.720 Are you guys also, do you have other sponsors, like, supplements or...

00:45:32.640 Yes, and Gorilla Mind.

00:45:33.720 Which is a supplement company.

00:45:35.320 Yeah.

00:45:35.520 Is that the one that has the gym?

00:45:37.960 No, no, no.

00:45:38.220 Young LA is the one that has the gym. 0.72

00:45:39.180 Young LA is the one that has the gym. 0.72

00:45:40.540 Yes.

00:45:40.720 Okay, so you guys, that's cool.

00:45:41.640 You guys have access to a private gym, rock and roll.

00:45:44.200 Okay.

00:45:46.420 So, no famous people for you.

00:45:49.120 What about for you?

00:45:49.940 Any in the past?

00:45:51.520 So, no, because I was in a five-year relationship, and then I was single for, like, a few months,

00:45:56.680 and then I met my boobaloo.

00:45:59.480 So, yeah, but I do get a lot of, well, now you can buy a blue checkmark, but before you

00:46:05.980 could buy it, I always had blue checkmarks, like, constantly, but I was just always in

00:46:10.420 a relationship, and then, yeah.

00:46:12.080 Oh, that is another question.

00:46:12.800 And I'm always monogamous, so.

00:46:15.440 Yeah, that is another question.

00:46:16.740 Obviously, now blue checkmarks, you can buy them, but in the past, usually indicated someone

00:46:21.720 who typically, like, I don't know, musician, athlete, actor, whatever it may be, music producer.

00:46:29.600 So, I do actually want to go around again, but I'll have everyone finish off on this question

00:46:33.660 as far as if you've ever dated anyone famous.

00:46:37.080 My last relationship, he was an actor when he was younger, but we didn't do anything saving

00:46:42.260 myself for marriage, so just dated.

00:46:44.900 He was an actor?

00:46:45.580 He was an actor in Hollywood.

00:46:47.220 Okay.

00:46:47.540 Um, not super, super big.

00:46:51.000 He used to be in Disney when he was a kid, but that's all I'll share.

00:46:55.840 Disney, when he was a kid.

00:46:57.840 Yeah.

00:46:59.180 Johnny Tsunami?

00:47:00.280 No.

00:47:00.580 No, he's too old.

00:47:02.520 Okay, what about you?

00:47:03.560 I have not, no.

00:47:04.560 Never?

00:47:05.120 No.

00:47:05.280 Okay.

00:47:05.620 What about, like, any famous political people?

00:47:09.740 Because you're in the political space.

00:47:11.580 Yeah.

00:47:12.040 So maybe.

00:47:12.600 I mean, not dated, no.

00:47:13.980 I mean, I've definitely been, like, hit up by, like, people.

00:47:22.020 Because it goes down in the DMs in the conservative sphere, I guess?

00:47:25.860 I mean, I've never entertained it, to be honest.

00:47:28.300 I mean, it's kind of like a mix between, you know, football players, actors, musicians,

00:47:32.420 and, like, media personalities, I guess, news hosts.

00:47:35.500 Okay.

00:47:35.720 So you get DMed, but just you've never actually dated, been in a relationship with anyone?

00:47:40.080 No, no, no.

00:47:40.100 Okay.

00:47:40.860 Gotcha.

00:47:43.100 I'll go around the table on, like, who's actually slid into DMs and stuff.

00:47:46.900 Madison, what about you?

00:47:48.160 Nar.

00:47:49.160 Nar.

00:47:49.880 Okay.

00:47:50.480 Rock and roll.

00:47:51.360 Actually, before we do that, let me do a couple chats here.

00:47:53.940 So we have, one sec.

00:47:56.380 Have you?

00:47:57.460 Have I dated anyone?

00:47:58.540 You got blue checks.

00:48:00.240 Let me think about it.

00:48:01.660 Emmy Vlas.

00:48:02.260 Hey, thank you, man, for the 16.

00:48:03.580 I appreciate it.

00:48:04.100 Specifically due to Miss Isabella.

00:48:06.360 Wait, what?

00:48:06.880 Who's, is someone here named Miss Isabella?

00:48:11.060 Oh, duh.

00:48:11.560 I mean, I'm Isabella, but.

00:48:13.420 Okay, duh.

00:48:14.180 I was, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:14.960 Okay.

00:48:15.600 Specifically due to Miss?

00:48:17.580 I'm confused.

00:48:18.780 I'm a little confused.

00:48:19.420 Do you get this?

00:48:20.240 I don't understand it.

00:48:21.440 It was sent a while ago, so maybe I'm not sure.

00:48:23.760 But he's maybe donating due to you.

00:48:27.320 Yeah.

00:48:27.580 He's tuning in due to you.

00:48:28.460 In honor of me.

00:48:28.940 It's for you.

00:48:29.560 Yeah.

00:48:29.800 I got it.

00:48:30.200 It's a $69 donation because, because, yeah, okay.

00:48:34.560 I'll take it.

00:48:35.160 Have I ever, I did have one girl, never, I don't think I've dated anyone.

00:48:41.720 Wait, hold on.

00:48:42.220 Let me think.

00:48:43.620 Wait.

00:48:44.560 There was one long time ago.

00:48:48.140 I don't want to review.

00:48:48.780 What ranking, like, is she on?

00:48:51.940 She was an actress.

00:48:52.960 For the same.

00:48:53.100 This was a long, long, years and years ago, but only recently, like, I had a girl with, 1.00

00:48:59.440 like, oh, shit. 0.99

00:49:01.980 Hey, AB check. 0.99

00:49:02.680 Thanks for the 20 gifted memberships, man.

00:49:04.540 Appreciate it.

00:49:06.260 I had a girl with, like, 10 million followers sliding to my DMs, but it was blue check mark,

00:49:13.000 but, yeah, that was not, didn't go anywhere.

00:49:19.480 Well, that was a couple months ago.

00:49:20.620 But besides that, no, I date civilians, I guess.

00:49:27.220 We have two chats here.

00:49:28.840 We have Kaiser Wilhelm II.

00:49:33.520 I'm asking, can you read this?

00:49:36.320 Splendid show, Brian.

00:49:37.460 However, this sexual perversion and witchcraft is directly against the word of God.

00:49:42.000 Also, will that gentleman, Chase, be back on the show soon?

00:49:44.940 I'm not sure.

00:49:48.300 Chase is kind of dealing with some things.

00:49:51.940 Not sure what the situation is on that, but we actually, we were texting, it was either

00:49:58.740 last night or earlier today.

00:50:00.020 So, yeah, things are good.

00:50:02.220 Just, he's got some things going on.

00:50:06.140 So, yo, Conan19.

00:50:08.040 Thank you, man, if you want to read this.

00:50:09.300 If I had to pick a female companion for the zombie apocalypse, it's Ariel, hands down. 1.00

00:50:15.020 She's like a Latin Sarah Connor, except way hotter and jacked. 1.00

00:50:19.020 I don't even know who that is.

00:50:20.680 Who's Sarah Connor?

00:50:21.660 Am I, like, uncultured?

00:50:22.940 Sarah Connor.

00:50:23.700 Yeah, I've never seen that.

00:50:25.500 She's cool.

00:50:26.860 Thank you, Conan.

00:50:28.120 I'll protect you.

00:50:29.500 Boom.

00:50:30.100 Done.

00:50:31.740 Done.

00:50:32.360 Okay, cool.

00:50:32.940 Thank you, man.

00:50:33.660 And then we have, no, okay, we're all caught up.

00:50:36.020 So, we're going to go around the table again.

00:50:37.080 So, okay, maybe you haven't dated someone who's famous, but have you gotten a bunch of

00:50:41.720 DMs from blue check marks?

00:50:44.040 So, any athletes, any musicians, maybe you've talked to them, maybe you didn't even respond.

00:50:49.880 If you want, you can say who.

00:50:53.760 Athletes, musicians, what else?

00:50:57.260 Actors, whatever.

00:50:58.180 We'll start with you and go around.

00:50:59.920 I mean, I think every chick has, I think it's kind of shitty to name drop, so I'm not going 0.67

00:51:03.980 to do that, but rappers.

00:51:05.480 Matthew McCarthy donated $99.

00:51:10.900 Boobala, you're engaged to an actor who stars in a World War II movie on Amazon Prime.

00:51:16.860 Hello, we fight.

00:51:17.960 Did you forget about the first night we hung out?

00:51:21.320 Ha, ha, ha.

00:51:24.540 Should I respond?

00:51:26.660 Yeah.

00:51:26.860 Yeah, he is an actor, and he does have a movie out, actually.

00:51:33.480 And yeah, the first night we hung out, we watched his movie, and he was really good.

00:51:38.020 So, I was like, okay, we can pursue things further.

00:51:40.920 I was like, this is going to be just terrible if he's not good, and then it's going to be

00:51:44.260 unattractive.

00:51:45.140 Yeah, but anyway.

00:51:47.100 Wait, so just to be clear, the first time ever hanging out with him?

00:51:49.900 Yes, yeah.

00:51:50.700 He showed you a movie with himself?

00:51:52.680 Yeah.

00:51:53.180 He was like, did he tell you he was in it before?

00:51:56.240 He just popped it in, and popped it on, and was like, and then you saw him?

00:52:00.980 We met on a film set, because we're both actually also do acting as well, but we were actually

00:52:06.980 working behind the scenes for a mutual friends film, and so it kind of just made sense.

00:52:11.940 But we met, and then we were texting for a week, and then he came into the bar that I

00:52:16.420 worked at at the time, and he was like, oh, I was just in this movie, and I was like,

00:52:20.460 oh, let's watch it.

00:52:22.480 And then that's whenever I was like, oh, no, I do actually relate it.

00:52:26.840 That would have been really funny.

00:52:27.840 But yeah, I was just like, oh, man, I really like this guy. 0.85

00:52:31.420 Like, I really hope he's good, because I was just going to suck, but he is good, so. 0.52

00:52:36.800 Okay.

00:52:39.960 Right, where did we live off?

00:52:41.060 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:52:41.540 Rappers.

00:52:42.020 There were rappers, athletes, but this is like oddly specific.

00:52:46.400 Do you know what IMG Academy is?

00:52:49.220 Sounds familiar.

00:52:50.400 It's like a super high-end charter school for athletes, and it's in my hometown.

00:52:57.840 So there were a lot of athletes, like an abnormal amount of athletes that hit me up,

00:53:02.500 but yeah.

00:53:03.460 Abnormal amount of athletes.

00:53:04.200 Yeah, I feel like it's weird just because, I don't know.

00:53:07.840 Yeah, it was an odd spot for that place to be, but.

00:53:11.880 Gotcha.

00:53:12.500 And your boyfriend, what's his name?

00:53:15.100 His name's Chris.

00:53:15.880 Chris.

00:53:16.400 Chris Tren.

00:53:17.360 Trenbro.

00:53:17.880 Chris Trenbro.

00:53:18.420 Trenbro.

00:53:18.940 Chris Trenbro.

00:53:19.760 I don't know if he's ever talked to you about this, but does he ever, or maybe prior to

00:53:27.380 dating you, or even while dating you, does he get a lot of girls DMing him?

00:53:32.260 Yeah.

00:53:32.940 Okay.

00:53:33.320 Like a ton.

00:53:34.380 I feel like every girl will be like scrolling through TikTok together or something, and 0.94

00:53:38.120 he'll be like, oh yeah, she hit me up, she hit me up, she hit me up, and I'm like, oh

00:53:40.880 okay, great, awesome.

00:53:42.220 You think he's saying, is he doing that like to kind of make you jealous, or just, it's

00:53:46.440 a matter of fact?

00:53:46.920 I don't think it's a malicious intent, I don't think, yeah.

00:53:49.560 Okay.

00:53:49.960 Like it's better you know than you don't know.

00:53:51.560 Yeah, for sure.

00:53:52.120 I think he tells me, because it's like, girls who are, I mean, obviously some of them are

00:53:57.240 actually trying to be friendly, but you know, you never know.

00:54:00.040 Okay.

00:54:03.280 Um, no comment.

00:54:05.400 Well no, you don't have to drop names, but just like, you get in, did you get a lot of

00:54:09.540 athletes, musicians, actors DMing you?

00:54:12.840 Um, athletes, yes.

00:54:14.920 Mostly athletes, but this was like years ago, like when I was still stripping, and I

00:54:19.380 had, I had like 40k on Instagram back then, I'm not, not on that anymore.

00:54:23.240 I'm just a normal girl now.

00:54:24.880 Okay.

00:54:25.740 Wait, you're just a normal girl now? 0.97

00:54:27.160 I mean, but don't you, wait, don't you still do OF?

00:54:32.300 Nope.

00:54:32.780 You don't do any adult content?

00:54:35.340 Um, no, I mean, yeah, no, I don't.

00:54:39.100 I mean, I, I have an OF that's still there, and I still get subscriptions every here and

00:54:44.120 there, and that's pretty much as big as it goes.

00:54:47.740 I'm, yeah.

00:54:50.020 Um, for me, I've gotten DMs, and those are neat, uh, because some of them are musicians

00:54:57.380 that just want to work.

00:54:58.440 Uh, they're like, oh, I've heard your music, and I'm like, like, uh, Mitchie Slick actually

00:55:02.260 was like, oh, I heard it, and we never did anything, but he was like, oh, I heard it,

00:55:06.180 and I was like, oh, thank you.

00:55:07.960 That's nice.

00:55:09.080 I used to listen to that in high school.

00:55:10.800 So, yeah.

00:55:12.960 No.

00:55:13.980 Come on.

00:55:15.300 There's some blue check marks that DMs do.

00:55:17.340 Well, yeah, blue check marks, but there's not anyone that I would specifically think

00:55:23.460 about and be like, oh, yeah, they're like a celebrity or anything like that.

00:55:26.560 What about?

00:55:27.840 Yeah, there was one rapper that I would get comments about being like, oh, so-and-so follows

00:55:33.080 you, and-

00:55:34.880 Drake?

00:55:35.740 No, no, no.

00:55:36.840 I mean, I'll name drop.

00:55:37.880 It was Zillakami, but he never DMed me, and, um, I told- 0.99

00:55:41.120 Who the fuck is that guy? 0.99

00:55:42.660 Yeah, right. 1.00

00:55:43.820 City Morgue.

00:55:44.640 You never heard of City Morgue?

00:55:46.000 Yeah, I told Carly about it.

00:55:47.320 I listen to 90s grunge music, so-

00:55:49.320 It's grunge music, but it's-

00:55:50.620 Oh, really?

00:55:51.080 Yeah, it's grunge rap.

00:55:52.600 Oh.

00:55:53.140 Yeah, anyways, I didn't know who he was, and I told Carly, and she was like, what?

00:55:57.380 Why did you fall in the back?

00:55:58.080 That's pretty much it.

00:55:59.460 That's it?

00:56:00.020 Come on.

00:56:01.040 Come on.

00:56:01.420 I feel like you think I'm hiding something every time I answer.

00:56:04.520 Come on.

00:56:06.440 What about you?

00:56:08.280 I mean, yeah, whenever I would get blue check, or when I do, it's usually just, like, basketball

00:56:13.680 players, football players, things like that, like, musicians, personalities, it's things

00:56:19.240 like that, and it's always, like, in my, whatever it is where, like, you don't follow them, and-

00:56:24.420 But there's just so many messages in there, and I honestly just don't, like, care that much,

00:56:28.340 so I never really pay attention, but yeah, there's definitely been quite a few, because

00:56:33.240 I have, like, relative, like, 100 plus K followers, so that's-

00:56:37.780 Sure.

00:56:37.940 I think that just happens with that, yeah.

00:56:39.320 Okay.

00:56:40.780 I don't really have any.

00:56:42.420 I mean, there's occasional people sliding in the DMs, but I feel like every girl deals

00:56:45.660 with that, and I just ignore most of them, like, don't initiate conversation, because

00:56:50.020 it's, like, just no point.

00:56:53.800 Yeah.

00:56:54.480 I mean, I feel like I do get, like, a lot, but I also really don't entertain a lot of

00:56:58.000 them, and I'm going to be completely honest.

00:56:59.480 I'm not going to name drop, but I would say maybe about 80% of the DMs that I receive that

00:57:03.880 are from blue check marks are from men with families, and are, like, full-blown marriages.

00:57:08.840 What?

00:57:09.420 Nar.

00:57:10.520 So that's mostly why I don't entertain it.

00:57:14.200 Good times.

00:57:14.760 Yeah, I get it.

00:57:15.880 Good.

00:57:16.460 Wife's name in the bio.

00:57:18.840 But maybe, but, like, you're a political commentator, so is it, like, when you say

00:57:22.900 they're DMing you, are they just, like, saying, oh, I like your content, or is it clear that 0.97

00:57:26.420 they're, like, oh, you're hot, like, romantically interested type shit? 0.96

00:57:30.980 No, there are times where, like, I'm able to, like, decipher, kind of, when it comes through, 0.99

00:57:34.940 and a lot of them are message requests when they come through, like, able to see, like,

00:57:38.020 what they're saying, and so a lot of times, like, I'm able to, like, decipher, like,

00:57:42.080 okay, this is clearly, like, work-related, and you're clearly 47 years old with a full-blown

00:57:47.980 family, and you're messaging me for one reason and one reason only, so.

00:57:51.800 Okay.

00:57:53.100 Got it. 0.99

00:57:54.120 Damn, that's just, oh. 0.99

00:57:56.040 Nar. 0.99

00:57:57.080 Nar.

00:57:58.200 Nar.

00:57:58.940 Okay.

00:58:00.140 Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

00:58:01.420 We've had a lot of girls on the panel say, oh, yeah. 1.00

00:58:03.800 And I think some of you are, like, maybe a little more out there in the sense that you guys

00:58:07.340 are content creators, and you're making content, so some of you have pretty decent followings,

00:58:12.080 but we've had some girls on the show who are college students, 1,000 Instagram followers, 0.95

00:58:18.140 and they're, like, yep, NFL player DMing me, NBA player DMing me, and it's just interesting

00:58:23.520 because I was thinking about the reverse, and, like, there's not, like, famous female athletes,

00:58:28.860 like, Taylor Swift isn't DMing some, like, 19-year-old college dude the same way Drake 0.97

00:58:34.560 is, like, you know, probably fucking sliding into some, like, 19-year-old baddies fucking DM, 0.95

00:58:40.060 so it's pretty interesting, like, the difference there. 0.98

00:58:44.480 Which I think, like, dating culture has been completely distorted by social media,

00:58:48.380 because if you look at it, women, we are constantly getting messages. 1.00

00:58:51.640 Men aren't usually getting those messages. 1.00

00:58:53.600 And just see how detrimental, I mean, social media is not only psychologically,

00:58:57.960 just in general, but how it's impacted dating culture specifically.

00:59:01.900 That's honestly why I stepped away from it.

00:59:05.820 It was just...

00:59:07.100 When did you stop, like, sex work, or, like, from social media?

00:59:10.460 From social media specifically.

00:59:12.300 I mean, sex work, I quit dancing because of COVID, and, you know, because I kind of had to.

00:59:17.860 But, yeah, the social media thing, I just realized how toxic it was,

00:59:22.280 and, I mean, I don't like to feel like I'm constantly being watched

00:59:27.480 and, like, feel, like, the obligation to, like, keep posting and posting and posting.

00:59:31.400 So it's just not the thing for me.

00:59:33.860 I do have a question.

00:59:34.700 So you said that social media was, like, detrimental to you.

00:59:37.300 Do you feel that, like, any of, like, the dancing or, like, the sex work you did

00:59:41.040 was also detrimental to you in the same way?

00:59:43.720 No, honestly, I'm, like, super pro in-person sex work.

00:59:47.620 I'm really, and not, like, anti-OF, but, like, for me personally,

00:59:52.120 just, like, OnlyFans was, like, the most toxic kind of sex work I ever did. 0.61

00:59:57.600 Interesting.

00:59:58.440 Did you ever feel...

00:59:59.240 How do you...

01:00:00.000 Sorry.

01:00:00.540 Go ahead, go ahead.

01:00:00.920 No, I was going to say, did you ever feel fulfilled doing that type of work?

01:00:05.420 110%.

01:00:05.820 I think it depends for everyone, like, where your fulfillment comes from.

01:00:10.960 You know, if I find fulfillment in things of this world,

01:00:13.920 I think I'm going to be constantly let down and disappointed,

01:00:16.220 as opposed to, like, finding my fulfillment from, like, my religion

01:00:19.320 and God and the Bible.

01:00:21.360 Right.

01:00:22.740 Speaking of which, who here is religious?

01:00:26.080 Maybe, well, let's just do show of hands.

01:00:27.760 Do you consider yourself religious, show of hands?

01:00:30.380 If spiritual is considered religious...

01:00:32.920 Define religious.

01:00:34.040 Let's say, okay, is anyone here either Christian, Muslim, or Jewish?

01:00:40.800 Jewish, yeah.

01:00:42.240 Wait.

01:00:43.760 Okay.

01:00:44.200 I mean, I was raised, I was raised Jewish, but...

01:00:48.780 Okay.

01:00:49.620 So, um, wait, so, okay, you said religious.

01:00:53.020 I don't know where I was going with that.

01:00:54.760 Yeah, I think it's just me and Isabella Christians.

01:00:56.960 Yeah.

01:00:58.060 Well, I, like, I go to Christian church now, but I was raised as, like,

01:01:01.580 I was raised in Mormon church, yeah.

01:01:03.720 I'm a man of God.

01:01:04.980 I was raised Baptist, but, yeah.

01:01:07.540 Now you're spiritual.

01:01:08.500 Yeah.

01:01:08.720 Like, what made you, like, when did that kind of transition happen?

01:01:12.660 Well, I was kind of honestly back and forth, like, in my, I mean, I'm 26, but, like, my

01:01:16.800 younger 20s, I was kind of like, okay, I would consider myself Christian, and then I would

01:01:20.480 feel way more connected to, like, the universe and spirituality and, like, that kind of thing.

01:01:25.700 So, I think it just kind of happened over time, where I just kind of wasn't feeling connected

01:01:31.900 at all to, like, the Bible or, like, the church or, like, even really, like, the idea of Jesus.

01:01:38.540 It just wasn't feeling, like, connected.

01:01:40.500 Is your fiancé religious at all?

01:01:43.460 He's sort of spiritual as well, yeah.

01:01:45.960 Wait, just, okay, so to bring it back to you, you said when you were doing the work in person,

01:01:51.060 you found that to be more rewarding than doing OF, so, like, releasing content online.

01:01:57.560 When you say doing work in person, what do you mean?

01:01:59.660 Were you, you're, you were a dancer, correct?

01:02:01.620 Correct.

01:02:02.220 Were you also engaging in the same type of work that she was doing?

01:02:08.280 I mean, I was just stripping.

01:02:10.500 I had, like, sugar daddies, but, like, not, but I never, like, slept with any of them.

01:02:15.240 I had, like, guys who were.

01:02:17.480 Like, what? 0.63

01:02:18.440 Yeah, I never slept with any of them, and I've had sex with them. 0.80

01:02:20.900 I've never had sexual acts with them.

01:02:22.780 I mean, you're not, I mean, I know that's a thing.

01:02:25.280 I know that's a thing, but it's, like, where's the sugar, you know?

01:02:29.060 Like, you're not.

01:02:29.820 I mean, can I explain?

01:02:31.600 Sure. 0.95

01:02:32.100 So, like, pay pigs, kind of. 0.95

01:02:33.820 Not really. 0.97

01:02:34.540 So, I mean, I would hang out with them in person.

01:02:36.220 So, as a stripper in Las Vegas, like, it's pretty common to have a guy to come ask you, 0.78

01:02:40.940 like, oh, like, do you want to hang out, whatever.

01:02:42.720 And I would always make it, like, pretty clear, like, I'm not willing to, you know, do extra stuff,

01:02:48.640 but they would rather, like, pay you than pay the club.

01:02:52.400 So, I mean, I had this one guy, like, and he took me shopping, and we had a great time,

01:02:58.820 and he was just, like, super thrilled because he just liked that I was, like, showing him around Vegas.

01:03:06.520 Like, you know, and this didn't happen, like, all the time.

01:03:08.880 Like, this is, like, very, like, few men.

01:03:11.440 I'm not saying this is, like, a super common occurrence.

01:03:14.300 Like, I danced for seven years.

01:03:15.940 It's probably happened, like, three to four times in that whole time.

01:03:19.880 So, I'm not trying to, like, like, advocate or, like, promote any of that.

01:03:24.620 Like, yeah.

01:03:26.040 In what ways?

01:03:26.780 You mean escorting?

01:03:28.200 No, just, like, because I know that a lot of, like, sex workers will kind of, I think, lie and be like,

01:03:35.120 oh, like, I don't have to do anything.

01:03:37.160 Like, guys just pay me to hang out.

01:03:39.180 Like, yes, that does happen, but it's very rare.

01:03:43.820 Okay.

01:03:44.720 I was going to ask, in what ways did you think your, like, in-person and, like, physical work was better than your online work?

01:03:52.560 Well, what I really liked about the in-person work is that I would go to work.

01:03:57.720 I would, you know, pay my house fee, work, and then come home, and it was over.

01:04:02.900 With OnlyFans, it's, like, constant.

01:04:05.180 Like, it's your whole life.

01:04:07.520 And I'm the kind of person where I just like to clock in and clock out, and that's how, like, stripping was for me.

01:04:14.080 So.

01:04:15.660 Okay.

01:04:16.120 Well, you mentioned sugar daddies.

01:04:19.420 I'll go around the table really quick on this.

01:04:21.660 Anyone else here had a sugar daddy?

01:04:23.080 Have you ever had a sugar daddy?

01:04:24.160 No.

01:04:24.600 Have you had the offer for a sugar daddy? 1.00

01:04:26.200 Like, a guy who's in your DMs, he's like, oh, I'll pay you $1,000 a week if you talk to me type shit. 0.99

01:04:31.660 Offers, yes. 0.99

01:04:32.420 I've never, never, ever taken one.

01:04:34.340 Sure.

01:04:35.360 You've had quite a few, correct?

01:04:37.480 Well, I mean, not, like, a lot, but, yeah, a couple here and there.

01:04:42.340 Okay.

01:04:44.560 And typically these are wealthy men, correct?

01:04:47.020 Not always.

01:04:47.840 Actually, I have this guy now, and I have, I quit sex work, like, what, three years ago, and he still just pays me.

01:04:54.940 He's a pay pig, and he just, he doesn't make a lot of money, but he just sends me money right here and there, and it's nice. 0.98

01:05:01.460 When you say, okay, so he's a pay pig. 0.99

01:05:04.320 He sends you money here and there.

01:05:05.840 You guys don't hook up to anything?

01:05:07.740 I've never met him in person.

01:05:09.080 You've never met him?

01:05:09.780 Okay.

01:05:10.160 Yeah.

01:05:11.400 How much does he send you?

01:05:14.840 I mean, it really depends on the month.

01:05:18.520 Right now, he's, he got let off from his job, so it's been zero for, like, three or four months now, but.

01:05:24.680 When he was paying you, how much was he sending you?

01:05:27.000 Um, I want to say, like, this past year, probably, like, four to eight hundred a month.

01:05:32.940 Four to eight hundred.

01:05:34.520 To eight hundred a month, yeah.

01:05:36.400 Do you think he's watching the show right now?

01:05:39.020 I did send him the link.

01:05:42.360 Yo, buddy, redirect your finances here.

01:05:46.220 I'll help you out.

01:05:47.320 Okay, so, are you, do you currently have any other sugar daddies or guys like this?

01:05:54.500 Actually, it's really interesting.

01:05:57.320 So, um, you know how that whole, like, Adam 22 thing happened?

01:06:01.140 Yeah.

01:06:01.340 So, I commented on a TikTok video.

01:06:03.160 Mind you, I have, I only have, like, 500 followers on TikTok. 0.97

01:06:06.820 I commented, damn, I want a man like Adam 22.

01:06:11.060 And this guy hit me up on my Instagram. 0.98

01:06:13.900 Like, he went through the process of trying to find me.

01:06:16.920 And he was like, I want to pay you.

01:06:19.680 And he did.

01:06:22.680 Super random.

01:06:23.780 Yes, recently.

01:06:25.160 Was it, it was just, like, a one-time payment?

01:06:27.680 Yeah.

01:06:28.580 Did, did you send him anything in return?

01:06:30.980 Like, photos?

01:06:31.880 We FaceTimed.

01:06:33.180 One FaceTime.

01:06:34.340 How much did he pay you for the singular FaceTime?

01:06:36.640 A hundred bucks.

01:06:37.460 Okay, that's.

01:06:38.380 Yeah.

01:06:39.600 How long was the FaceTime?

01:06:40.780 Like, 30 minutes or?

01:06:41.980 Like, a few minutes, yeah.

01:06:43.280 Like, less than 10.

01:06:45.060 What's the, I don't, with the, so you said you want a guy like Adam 22. 0.98

01:06:48.880 So you want a guy who's okay with his partner fucking another dude? 0.99

01:06:55.860 No. 0.98

01:06:56.800 I just like how Adam 22 was, like, very comfortable with, like, first of all, like, you know, Lena or Lena?

01:07:03.760 Yeah, I think Lena.

01:07:04.440 Lena. 0.99

01:07:05.640 Being, like, a sex worker.

01:07:07.040 And then he, you know, was supporting her career.

01:07:10.260 I personally, like, I'm, I prefer monogamy in my relationships, but I just liked that he was supporting her career and, like, allowed her to do that scene.

01:07:20.380 I feel like that doesn't really make him, like, supportive.

01:07:22.540 I kind of feel like it makes him a pimp.

01:07:24.020 Like, he let his wife go get, like, effed by another man. 0.63

01:07:26.920 Like, honestly, like, that's so humiliating for him.

01:07:29.720 I think it's such an embarrassment to marriage and, like, the, like, what a husband should be.

01:07:34.400 Like, I don't think, like, anyone should strive for that in a partner at all.

01:07:37.980 If anything, it benefited him.

01:07:40.540 Like, he got money.

01:07:42.240 I mean, do you think that their finances are together or do you think they have their own separate finances?

01:07:48.020 I mean, they're married.

01:07:49.660 I mean, the people who are married don't necessarily have joint accounts all the time.

01:07:53.200 I mean, like, I'm sure.

01:07:55.600 He's benefiting from her work and her fame directly links to him.

01:08:00.200 And so, I mean, yeah.

01:08:00.960 Which makes him a pimp.

01:08:01.800 Which he's pimping out his wife, essentially, allowing him to do these things.

01:08:05.700 And the other thing is they have young children, like, that are going to grow up and, like, see this.

01:08:11.740 I mean, I've, you know, I've been a sex, well, not anymore, but I was a sex worker for a long time.

01:08:18.400 And all I'm going to say, like, I don't know their situation, so I can't comment on that.

01:08:22.640 I can't, like, I feel like you're kind of assuming things that you don't really know about necessarily.

01:08:28.540 I feel like it's pretty fair to say he's a pimp for letting his wife get effed, you know, for money.

01:08:34.180 Because he's getting paid, even if their finances are separate, don't tell me he had no benefit to this at all. 0.93

01:08:40.180 I mean, as a sex worker, I had a boyfriend while I was doing sex work.

01:08:47.040 And he allowed me to do it.

01:08:48.680 And I was just stripping.

01:08:49.860 I wasn't having sex for money.

01:08:51.380 But, I mean, our money was 100% separate.

01:08:54.440 Did he allow you to do it, or did he put, like, did he advocate for you doing it?

01:08:58.860 He advocated for it.

01:09:00.460 Okay.

01:09:00.680 He was, like, super, like.

01:09:01.700 Different from allowing.

01:09:02.500 Yeah.

01:09:03.020 And were you buying and advocating?

01:09:04.660 Were you buying him any gifts or giving him anything or paying for anything?

01:09:08.780 No, we were actually very much in the middle.

01:09:11.300 Like, I made it clear, like, this is what I pay for, this is what you pay for.

01:09:15.320 Do you think a woman should be allowed by her husband to engage in sex work while married? 0.99

01:09:20.640 Like, do you think that would ever be appropriate?

01:09:22.640 Yes.

01:09:22.920 I think if it's between the couple.

01:09:25.980 Doesn't that defeat the point of being married, though?

01:09:28.580 Like, if a marriage is a union between a man and a woman, and they're committed to each other,

01:09:33.380 then what's the point of, like, going outside of that?

01:09:35.840 I think everybody's relationship is different.

01:09:38.440 And I can't sit here and judge or make any, like, standards for somebody else's relationship.

01:09:43.880 I mean, I guess I understand that.

01:09:45.460 But I guess I'm more so saying that, like, marriage is, like, a union.

01:09:49.720 Like, a legal union.

01:09:50.420 Right.

01:09:50.520 Well, you're religious, right? 0.50

01:09:52.160 Like, so you see marriage as something different.

01:09:54.120 Some people don't feel it like that.

01:09:55.760 And I respect where you're coming from 110%, but the way I feel is just I can't comment

01:10:02.920 on somebody else's relationship.

01:10:03.980 Well, legally and religiously marriage is between.

01:10:05.880 I feel like it's a pretty universal.

01:10:07.020 Universal marriage, even if it's not, if they're non-religious, for example, but they're married

01:10:11.520 by the state, a man and a woman together.

01:10:13.560 I mean, if a woman is still engaging in sex work, I mean, every day that's basically cheating 1.00

01:10:16.760 on her husband.

01:10:18.520 On the other side, what is marriage then?

01:10:21.060 Yeah.

01:10:21.360 What would that?

01:10:23.080 But, okay.

01:10:23.640 Okay, so I'll do the red pill, blue pill thing.

01:10:27.360 I mean, some red pillers will say that it's okay for men to cheat and women to not.

01:10:32.280 I also think that cheating, to me, is lying.

01:10:35.840 If you're open with your partner about what you're doing, people have open marriages.

01:10:39.980 So if you're open with your partner about what you're doing, then I don't consider it cheating.

01:10:45.080 Like, cheating equals lying to me.

01:10:46.880 I mean, obviously, you guys have different values than me, and I respect that.

01:10:52.220 I'll just say, one of my good friends started dating a corn star about two years ago, and

01:11:01.520 they're, like, one of the happiest couples that I've, like, ever met in my entire life.

01:11:05.480 So I just think, like, things and relationships is completely up to, like, those two people.

01:11:10.360 Does she do it as well?

01:11:11.700 He doesn't do it.

01:11:13.440 She's an active.

01:11:14.460 Oh, okay.

01:11:14.940 She's active? 0.88

01:11:15.780 Yeah, she's active.

01:11:17.220 Wait, just, and so your friend is the male, correct?

01:11:20.540 Yeah.

01:11:21.520 And she does BG, boy-girl content?

01:11:24.480 And girl-girl, yeah.

01:11:25.780 She does both, yeah. 0.99

01:11:27.200 And they're still together?

01:11:28.400 Mm-hmm.

01:11:28.680 They're, like, so happy.

01:11:30.120 She was already one when they, like, got together and started dating, and, yeah.

01:11:34.200 Why does she have the desire to continue being in the corn industry? 1.00

01:11:38.080 Well, I actually think she's trying to, like, really grow in it because she's making, like,

01:11:42.140 bank, actually.

01:11:43.320 Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure that that's the thing, yeah.

01:11:46.880 Yeah.

01:11:47.160 I mean, don't get me wrong.

01:11:48.000 Interesting.

01:11:48.140 I mean, I'm totally, like, a monogamous type of person, too.

01:11:51.220 But I just think that if people feel good and can be happy, like, doing that kind of thing,

01:11:57.000 I don't see anything wrong with this.

01:11:58.440 But I do get the religious side, too, because I was for a very long time, and, like, at

01:12:02.980 that point in my life, I probably would also have been, like, oh, my God, why would someone

01:12:06.540 do that?

01:12:07.240 As a guy, as a guy, I mean, look, I know people have different viewpoints on a wide variety 0.99

01:12:14.960 of different topics, but the idea of my girl fucking another guy, like my girlfriend, 1.00

01:12:20.480 is fucking disgusting. 1.00

01:12:22.040 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:12:22.300 I think it's gross.

01:12:24.320 And you're valid to feel that way.

01:12:26.900 Yeah.

01:12:27.060 But it's just...

01:12:27.820 But I don't know how anybody could think that that's not gross by, if you're engaging in

01:12:31.960 sex with somebody else other than your partner that you're committed to, it, outside of just,

01:12:36.700 like, cheating on the other person, it's dirty.

01:12:39.520 And, I mean, even psychologically and statistically, the more people that you're sleeping with, it's

01:12:44.100 also harming your relationships.

01:12:45.360 I just, yeah, I just don't see, I guess, how people can see themselves being married

01:12:49.540 long-term like that, because for me, I feel like you're trying, again, it goes back to

01:12:53.460 the fulfillment thing, you're trying to find fulfillment in these things that are not going

01:12:56.940 to make you happy, and it keeps escalating.

01:12:59.120 You said your friend, right?

01:13:00.260 She does, like, boy-girl-girl content.

01:13:02.360 I don't believe that she started off doing that.

01:13:04.500 I feel like she...

01:13:05.200 Hold on just a sec.

01:13:07.420 Yeah, thank you, Prometheus.

01:13:08.220 Hey, Brian, are you aware of Lizzo body shaming my apology for the interruption of the conversation

01:13:13.540 being presented?

01:13:15.360 Hashtag flannel bros for life.

01:13:17.460 Yo, thank you, Prometheus.

01:13:18.460 Appreciate it.

01:13:19.000 Flannel bros for life.

01:13:21.240 Aware of the Lizzo body shaming my apology?

01:13:23.240 You didn't hear this?

01:13:25.000 Lizzo body shamed her backup dancers and also forced them to eat bananas off of, I think, 1.00

01:13:30.600 sex workers in LA? 0.63

01:13:31.500 Let's keep it tame here. 0.66

01:13:34.940 Yeah, I heard the story, but is it she body shamed? 1.00

01:13:39.780 Yeah, she said that they were, like, too overweight.

01:13:41.920 Her backup dancers, which is so funny.

01:13:44.860 The irony of that.

01:13:47.680 I think I saw something about that.

01:13:49.540 I'm not sure how...

01:13:50.580 It's not particularly related to dating, though.

01:13:54.080 I have a question.

01:13:55.400 What's up with, like, Lizzo?

01:13:57.980 I feel like, because I've watched his podcast a few times, like, why does Lizzo, like, why

01:14:01.660 is she, like, the one, like, overweight woman that gets brought up? 1.00

01:14:05.580 Like, what about Adele or, like, the rest of them?

01:14:07.320 I mean, we don't really bring up Lizzo all that much.

01:14:11.000 I don't know.

01:14:11.600 I feel like she gets brought up a lot.

01:14:13.960 No, I think we've maybe brought her up, like, three or four podcasts.

01:14:19.300 Just all the ones I watched.

01:14:21.260 She's also the one that I feel like that's, like, very, like, puts herself out there.

01:14:25.280 Sorry.

01:14:25.940 Puts herself out there a lot, so I feel like that's probably, like, awesome.

01:14:29.560 I think she glorifies her obesity.

01:14:31.180 Yeah.

01:14:31.720 I think that's where it becomes a problem for people.

01:14:34.000 Yeah.

01:14:34.700 I think the context where we have brought Lizzo up is...

01:14:38.340 Is Lizzo a 10?

01:14:40.300 Yeah, so, like, when we do, like, what do you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10?

01:14:44.880 People are like, oh, everyone's a 10.

01:14:46.840 I'm like, is Lizzo a 10?

01:14:49.280 I think we should get the bodybuilding girls to weigh in on this one. 1.00

01:14:52.300 What do you guys think?

01:14:53.040 I was thinking you were going to do that.

01:14:55.140 We have a pretty similar take.

01:14:57.300 Is it okay if I...

01:14:58.360 Yeah, go ahead.

01:14:58.820 All right.

01:14:59.180 Go ahead.

01:14:59.420 Um, I mean, obviously, you're going to look how you look, and it's different for everybody

01:15:05.480 how they got there, but we, the body positivity movement is definitely iffy in our eyes.

01:15:12.720 We're obviously not incredibly supportive of it.

01:15:19.280 I think we both think that health is really important, and if you are actively trying to

01:15:25.540 make a change, if you're, say, at an unhealthy weight, that's amazing, you know, kudos to

01:15:33.040 you, but I think that the way you take care of yourself in terms of that and other stuff

01:15:39.460 reflects the way you feel about yourself.

01:15:41.420 So, if I see you, and you look unhealthy, and you are not doing anything about it simply

01:15:49.000 because you're lazy, and you want to bring up body positivity as an excuse, I'm not going

01:15:54.640 to have respect for you.

01:15:55.720 I think that the...

01:15:56.660 Yeah, I think that the body positivity movement, like she said, is an excuse to not work hard,

01:16:03.720 which, obviously, I want to acknowledge that we came from an easier starting place than

01:16:09.160 someone who's, like, morbidly obese, so I have empathy for a different situation, but

01:16:14.160 in any case...

01:16:14.660 I think that the body positivity movement has been, like, hijacked by a bunch of, like,

01:16:20.060 inclusive social justice warriors, and I think that, like, you can't tell me someone

01:16:25.300 who's morbidly obese is happy with themselves.

01:16:27.920 No.

01:16:28.160 And I've seen it all over social media, like, oh, I'm so happy I'm doing this, they're going

01:16:31.600 to be dead by the time they're, like, 35 if they keep, like, eating themselves away.

01:16:35.580 And I think that it also sends a really bad message to, like, younger people who are scrolling

01:16:39.940 on social media and being, like, this is okay, I can do this, and it's really not at all.

01:16:43.960 And it's really disgusting, to be honest.

01:16:45.840 It's definitely a coping mechanism, for sure.

01:16:49.840 The lightest terms, yeah.

01:16:51.700 Yeah, and I mean, the body positivity movement originally started with things that were out

01:16:57.420 of your control, like if you had, like, if you were an amputee, or you had, like, a scar,

01:17:02.740 or, you know, some genetic thing, and I already got it, I already got it.

01:17:07.400 So, but it's transformed into, let's just, it's totally healthy at any size, you're healthy

01:17:18.380 at 400 pounds, that's...

01:17:21.500 Well, it distorted what the meaning of healthy even is, and then created this entire movement

01:17:26.000 of young girls that are, like, well, I can eat whatever I want and do whatever I want 1.00

01:17:30.020 with zero consequences, and then you have people that are overweight, you know, dealing

01:17:34.980 with heart problems.

01:17:35.940 I mean, heart problems are very rapidly growing in the United States, and, I mean, we have

01:17:41.300 an entire generation of kids that are becoming obese with zero consequences.

01:17:45.780 To be fair, there are also skinny people who...

01:17:49.120 We haven't been into nutrition for that long, so obviously at one point this was me, but there's

01:17:53.880 skinny people who are eating whatever they want, and even though they might look healthy,

01:17:57.900 you're not, so not only is it physical appearance, but even if you look good, you should be focusing

01:18:04.340 on your nutrition.

01:18:06.060 True that.

01:18:06.560 I totally agree.

01:18:07.720 Yeah.

01:18:08.120 No, I used to weigh, and you don't believe me because you guys don't know me, but, like,

01:18:11.640 three years ago, I weighed under 100 pounds.

01:18:14.200 It was really hard for me to put on weight, and then all of a sudden, I just gained a bunch

01:18:18.220 of weight, probably because I'm...

01:18:19.520 I was, like, stripping, so I was very active, and then once that stopped...

01:18:23.900 So I definitely see, like, the difference of being, like, a very skinny person to now

01:18:28.620 where I'm, like, pushing overweight, and it's weird for me because it's...

01:18:36.140 Our society, like, likes the, like, overweight stuff.

01:18:41.020 Like, I get way more attention from men now that I'm a little bit bigger than I did when

01:18:46.540 I was skinny, but I like how I was when I was skinny before, and I felt a lot better,

01:18:50.980 and my, just, my body felt better, so, I mean, once this, you know, disability thing

01:18:56.020 is over, then I'm definitely gonna try to lose weight.

01:18:58.900 Do you think that, um, I don't know how to put it, men liking bigger girls is a niche

01:19:05.300 fetish, or do you think it's widespread?

01:19:08.200 Um, in my experience, it seems kind of widespread.

01:19:11.920 I mean, I remember when I was super skinny.

01:19:13.600 I mean, I was insecure about being skinny, and I, like, wanted to gain weight, so when I

01:19:18.820 started to gain weight, I was, like, happy about it, and then now, I mean, it's so weird.

01:19:25.280 I talk about this all the time with, like, my friends and family.

01:19:27.800 I'm, like, I feel like, I'm gonna be very frank right now, I feel, like, the least

01:19:33.040 attractive I ever have in my life, but I feel, I get, like, the most attention I ever

01:19:37.200 have in my life, I ever had in my life, and it's, especially with, like, being disabled

01:19:41.820 donated $99.

01:19:44.140 Como, Savabrain, Madison looking gorgeous as always.

01:19:48.400 Question for the ladies. 0.99

01:19:50.280 South Louisiana in 6'5", plus 210 pounds, 80k a year, work on the water, 28 days, home

01:19:57.720 for 14 any takers.

01:20:00.420 No.

01:20:00.920 No.

01:20:01.280 No.

01:20:01.760 Solid man, solid man.

01:20:03.280 I mean, isn't 80k a year, like, a little over average, or?

01:20:07.040 That, that was a, first off, first off, well, thank you for your patronage.

01:20:12.980 That is not how you say that in French.

01:20:17.200 Como, okay, anyways, so, just to recap here, he is 6'5", 210 pounds, he makes 80k a year,

01:20:26.440 he says he works on the water, he's 28 days home for 14?

01:20:31.900 Is he, like, making 80?

01:20:32.980 My set dad does that, yeah, they're usually, like, away for, like, a month.

01:20:37.040 And then back for a month, that kind of thing, yeah.

01:20:39.380 Oh, okay.

01:20:40.520 Any girls who are single at the table, any takers?

01:20:44.040 At the, what's the French name for it?

01:20:47.080 Wait, what?

01:20:47.600 What's the French name for the bordello?

01:20:52.320 I'm not sure.

01:20:53.100 At the bordello, I.

01:20:54.160 She'll take you at the bordello.

01:20:55.760 All right, there you go.

01:20:57.820 South Louisianian, 6'5", 210.

01:21:02.080 Any takers?

01:21:03.060 Isabella, what's up?

01:21:04.020 No, no, no, no, no.

01:21:05.180 He's in Louisiana.

01:21:07.040 No, thank you.

01:21:07.700 Sounds too humid.

01:21:08.600 I was born there.

01:21:09.860 6'5"?

01:21:10.700 You like tall guys, or?

01:21:14.220 Yeah.

01:21:15.160 Okay, all right, we'll ask everyone's type later.

01:21:18.600 Thank you, man.

01:21:19.220 I don't have a type.

01:21:19.840 You don't have a type?

01:21:20.580 No.

01:21:20.760 Yeah, I don't have a type either.

01:21:22.460 I don't have a type.

01:21:22.480 Cap.

01:21:22.660 It's a vibe.

01:21:23.680 Cap.

01:21:24.320 No, no, no, I really don't.

01:21:25.620 I'm all over the place.

01:21:27.100 I'm definitely just attracted to, like, people's, like, it sounds so, it sounds so ridiculous,

01:21:31.540 but really, like, their personality.

01:21:33.560 That's cap.

01:21:34.320 It's not cap.

01:21:35.340 Come on, Isabella.

01:21:35.640 I feel like it's a little bit cap, because the initial, like, reaction when you're meeting

01:21:38.980 someone, you always look for, like, attractiveness, and then you find personality, you know?

01:21:44.160 Yes, but no, like, because there have been guys that I thought were so ugly, and then

01:21:47.520 after just, like, spending time with them, I was, like, attracted to them.

01:21:50.440 Actually, that was my first boyfriend.

01:21:52.160 That's what every boyfriend wants.

01:21:54.280 Like, she used to think I was ugly, but after getting to know me, I'm still ugly, but she

01:21:59.600 likes my first boyfriend.

01:22:00.340 Well, you would never tell them that.

01:22:01.460 You're an alternative guy.

01:22:02.400 It's like, yeah.

01:22:03.780 I guess, but, I mean, don't you need the physical attraction?

01:22:07.720 I mean.

01:22:08.160 Well, that's the thing, like, after spending time with somebody, you, like, get attracted

01:22:11.860 to them.

01:22:12.360 It's, like, an actual phenomenon.

01:22:14.140 He doesn't look a thing like Jesus, but he talks like a gentleman, and that's better.

01:22:18.540 Wait, what about, like, Charlie Kirk?

01:22:20.220 Would you go for Charlie Kirk?

01:22:22.440 Charlie's married.

01:22:23.080 Charlie's married.

01:22:23.560 Oh, he's married.

01:22:24.360 He's a baby.

01:22:25.960 Okay, I'm sorry, Charlie.

01:22:26.900 I didn't mean to throw you under the bus.

01:22:28.780 We love Erica.

01:22:29.780 We love Erica and Charlie.

01:22:30.200 By the way, I do date short guys.

01:22:32.040 Everyone's saying, then date a short guy.

01:22:33.680 I do date short guys.

01:22:34.860 What's the shortest guy you've dated?

01:22:36.360 5'2".

01:22:37.400 I'll tell you.

01:22:38.780 Well, okay, I was 5'3 at the time, but I'm 5'5 now.

01:22:44.420 How does that happen?

01:22:45.660 It was in 8th grade.

01:22:46.860 Oh, okay.

01:22:47.520 Okay, okay.

01:22:48.260 But everyone made fun of him for him being shorter than me.

01:22:50.920 And no, I loved him for, like, three years.

01:22:53.180 If he's watching this, hi.

01:22:55.100 Did the height, like, go up over those three years?

01:22:58.060 Nope.

01:22:58.160 He was 5'2".

01:22:59.440 Oh, to this day.

01:23:00.120 Wow.

01:23:01.020 I don't think you can consider an 8th grade relationship.

01:23:02.920 Yeah, I don't think so.

01:23:04.540 That doesn't.

01:23:05.100 I don't know.

01:23:06.820 He was 5'2".

01:23:08.040 Well, how tall were you?

01:23:09.660 Wait.

01:23:10.040 I was 5'3".

01:23:10.760 Wait, so then he was, like, 13, 14.

01:23:13.540 14, yeah.

01:23:14.740 So, like...

01:23:15.340 Oh, so he probably grew.

01:23:16.300 But I grew, okay, no, because we actually talked since, from, like, 14 to, like, 16.

01:23:22.180 And...

01:23:22.260 Okay.

01:23:22.920 Yeah, I grew.

01:23:23.580 Did he grow?

01:23:25.000 Throughout your relationship, did he stay 5'2 and you grew?

01:23:28.220 Yes.

01:23:28.580 Bro, it's an 8th grade relationship.

01:23:31.640 It holds no substance.

01:23:32.760 Like, who cares?

01:23:33.280 All right.

01:23:33.680 Okay, fine.

01:23:33.880 My last boyfriend was 5'7".

01:23:35.580 Like, I'm like, I'm okay with short guys.

01:23:37.360 Yo, testing tolerance.

01:23:38.360 Thank you, man.

01:23:38.680 Never, ever, ever spend money on women online, including drop a like. 0.88

01:23:43.680 If you do, we will find you.

01:23:45.700 Okay.

01:23:46.520 All right.

01:23:47.160 Appreciate it there.

01:23:49.300 Guys, get your soup chats in if you'd like.

01:23:51.180 We have...

01:23:52.160 I think we did.

01:23:53.820 We did that one.

01:23:54.580 We have Puffy Vegas.

01:23:55.660 Okay, he's doing a rating. 0.99

01:23:57.680 Actually, fuck, hold on now. 0.99

01:23:59.080 We'll do that one later, I guess. 0.99

01:24:00.340 Mr. Cappadocio, ladies, have any of you had work done, boob job, lip filler?

01:24:04.360 If so, what?

01:24:05.160 Also, Isabella, are you cold or are they pierced?

01:24:09.120 Okay.

01:24:09.400 Well, to answer your question, I've never had any work done.

01:24:13.440 Thanks.

01:24:14.380 Do you want to answer his other question, too?

01:24:16.880 I'm cold.

01:24:18.660 Is it chilly in here?

01:24:19.720 No.

01:24:20.580 It's hot.

01:24:21.800 It is warm.

01:24:22.680 It's warm.

01:24:23.320 You should get your thyroid checked, maybe.

01:24:25.760 Okay.

01:24:26.920 So, we'll go around the table.

01:24:28.420 Has anybody had any work done?

01:24:30.320 So, lip filler, lipo, BBL?

01:24:33.640 I have a little bit of lip filler.

01:24:35.440 That's it?

01:24:35.980 Mm-hmm.

01:24:36.360 Okay. 0.98

01:24:37.420 My boobs are done. 0.97

01:24:39.820 Okay. 0.91

01:24:41.040 I used to have a lot of work done.

01:24:42.900 And you know what?

01:24:43.540 Recently, I'm just kind of giving it up for now.

01:24:47.260 It becomes an addiction, kind of.

01:24:49.660 At least for me, it did.

01:24:51.180 And I just remember people were starting to call me out on it.

01:24:55.880 Like, just people at the dance club.

01:24:57.720 And people were like, oh, did you get your cheeks filled?

01:24:59.320 Like, a guy would say that to me.

01:25:00.460 I was dancing with them.

01:25:01.200 I'm like, you know what?

01:25:02.400 And I was broke.

01:25:03.020 Like, I would spend all my money on this outer body.

01:25:07.840 And I didn't have any money.

01:25:09.600 But I was like, oh, I look good.

01:25:10.580 But I didn't feel good.

01:25:11.600 Did you feel like it was, like, a little degrading in a way when a guy would ask you that?

01:25:14.800 I did.

01:25:15.360 I felt embarrassed.

01:25:16.320 Because I felt embarrassed because I was like, I really overdid this.

01:25:20.180 I was like, I don't need to.

01:25:21.720 Yeah.

01:25:22.000 Now I'm all natural.

01:25:23.220 Wait.

01:25:23.540 So, you used to have?

01:25:24.920 A lot.

01:25:25.560 What did you have?

01:25:26.660 I had temple fillers done.

01:25:29.200 I had my lips done.

01:25:30.640 And when I was in Playboy, I just really went hog wild.

01:25:34.440 I just was like, I want to look the big, the best.

01:25:37.000 And I felt like this spirit of, like, I got to do and look and achieve.

01:25:43.660 Not a BBL.

01:25:44.700 But I, no, no, no boobs.

01:25:47.860 But I did a lot of face work.

01:25:50.260 And I did get my teeth done.

01:25:51.620 Because I just was, I'm happy about that.

01:25:54.960 I'm happy about that.

01:25:56.000 But I did have a ton of face work done.

01:25:57.980 And I would, I definitely would say it was, it was, it was a lot.

01:26:02.660 And it was more than I had.

01:26:03.880 But I was like, you know what?

01:26:04.880 I'm, I'm going organic right now.

01:26:07.080 That's good.

01:26:07.780 Yeah.

01:26:08.140 Well, you look beautiful.

01:26:08.980 Thank you.

01:26:09.580 You too.

01:26:11.560 Okay.

01:26:13.120 I have not had any work done.

01:26:15.080 Nothing?

01:26:16.240 Nothing.

01:26:16.840 Zilch?

01:26:17.720 Zilch.

01:26:18.120 Zero?

01:26:18.760 Zero.

01:26:19.840 Nothing.

01:26:20.120 Why are you always questioning me?

01:26:22.680 Do you have something to ask?

01:26:24.040 Something to say?

01:26:25.260 Nothing?

01:26:25.580 Nothing.

01:26:27.420 Okay.

01:26:27.860 All right.

01:26:28.740 I have never had anything done.

01:26:31.180 And I hope to keep it that way.

01:26:34.940 No work done.

01:26:35.840 But everyone always thinks I have lip fillers.

01:26:37.940 That's the number one.

01:26:39.260 Really?

01:26:39.600 Like, people tweets are like, do you have lip fillers?

01:26:41.800 No fillers.

01:26:42.640 They have that natural.

01:26:43.100 Let me see your side profile.

01:26:44.840 Yeah, those look normal.

01:26:45.800 Yeah, they look normal.

01:26:46.620 I overline, but no fillers.

01:26:48.820 Okay.

01:26:49.520 Isabella?

01:26:49.680 No work done.

01:26:51.200 Zip?

01:26:51.820 Zilch?

01:26:51.940 No, no work done.

01:26:53.020 Okay.

01:26:53.360 What do I look like I've had done, Brian?

01:26:54.820 No, I'm not saying that.

01:26:56.380 I just got a question.

01:26:57.580 I do get the lip filler one a lot, too.

01:27:00.260 I feel like that's a common one.

01:27:01.740 Or Botox or something like that.

01:27:03.600 Okay.

01:27:04.380 No.

01:27:04.920 Really?

01:27:05.720 No.

01:27:06.300 Okay.

01:27:06.620 Well, no, I can see that they're real, but I was wondering if anyone's ever asked you.

01:27:10.460 Because they're really nice.

01:27:11.780 They're really nice.

01:27:12.700 Oh.

01:27:12.840 Thank you.

01:27:13.920 Okay.

01:27:14.420 I'm just a normal compliment, I promise.

01:27:16.980 Do you go both ways, or?

01:27:20.380 Yeah, but that's not what it was, I promise.

01:27:22.260 I promise that's not what it was.

01:27:24.420 Isabella, do you, have you ever dated a woman?

01:27:27.120 No, I would not.

01:27:28.000 Okay.

01:27:28.680 Okay.

01:27:29.000 I would not.

01:27:29.660 All right.

01:27:30.260 I'll take my compliment, though.

01:27:32.440 There you have it.

01:27:33.600 We have Conan here.

01:27:34.560 Question for Brian in the panel.

01:27:35.580 Does, this is a little to you, what's, does jab status affect your interest in a potential

01:27:42.720 partner?

01:27:45.140 Honestly, no.

01:27:45.780 Let's not talk about the actual thing, but you can say yes or no on that, I guess.

01:27:54.100 No.

01:27:54.240 What is that?

01:27:54.920 You know what I mean?

01:27:55.480 I don't think.

01:27:56.260 The jab.

01:27:56.520 I don't.

01:27:57.200 Yeah.

01:27:57.560 The jab.

01:27:57.680 The most recent jab.

01:27:59.300 The jab.

01:28:00.080 The jab.

01:28:00.940 You need to, like, girl. 0.99

01:28:03.000 Oh.

01:28:03.360 Hello.

01:28:04.560 Oh, okay, okay, okay.

01:28:05.900 Oh, does it?

01:28:06.560 There was recently a global something, and people as a measure to, yeah, I feel like

01:28:18.620 no, I feel like simply because, no, because, I mean, I guess it depends.

01:28:23.460 I do feel like a lot of people were really put in bad positions, honestly, and I feel

01:28:27.500 like I'm not going to hold that against a future partner who checks off all the boxes

01:28:31.260 because he was put in a position where, you know, he potentially was going to lose his

01:28:35.380 job or his ability to support.

01:28:36.960 I know my own college dropped me from all eight of my classes.

01:28:40.940 I had religious exemptions, medical exemptions, and they were not letting me attend back,

01:28:45.640 and I basically had a year and a half hold off with my university, and so, like, I know

01:28:50.640 how I felt, and that was just, like, simply college.

01:28:53.380 I can't imagine somebody in a higher position.

01:28:56.260 I don't really know what that means.

01:28:57.740 I refuse.

01:28:59.280 I will not date somebody or marry someone who's got it because of future fertility questions 1.00

01:29:03.780 I have.

01:29:04.560 Okay.

01:29:04.840 Um, I don't think, for me, it matters too much.

01:29:08.320 Sure.

01:29:08.780 Me too.

01:29:09.560 I mean, it doesn't matter.

01:29:10.660 Yeah, I don't care.

01:29:11.620 I don't know what that means.

01:29:12.540 I'm still lost.

01:29:15.340 Okay.

01:29:15.960 All right.

01:29:16.480 Yeah, we can just skip me.

01:29:19.240 Really?

01:29:20.360 Yes.

01:29:21.540 The jab?

01:29:24.440 Come on, Maddie. 0.66

01:29:25.420 Think, like, two years back.

01:29:27.540 Help me out, Nick.

01:29:30.800 Oh, like, okay.

01:29:32.160 I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm sorry.

01:29:36.180 All right.

01:29:36.620 We have Puffy Vegas here.

01:29:37.920 Can I come on your show, you show, on your show?

01:29:41.440 Uh, you, you'll have to, uh, work on the grammar a little bit before you come on, but, um.

01:29:46.020 Can I come on your show?

01:29:47.120 Um, uh, Puffy, we are very, very selective with, uh, some of the guests we invite on,

01:29:53.680 but, uh, you can, you can send us an Instagram message and we can potentially consider it.

01:30:00.460 Uh, thank you, man.

01:30:01.960 Uh, we're gonna, we're gonna go, actually, I'll wait for this one.

01:30:04.560 Hold on one sec.

01:30:05.340 We have, uh, let me see what I had here.

01:30:09.220 One sec, guys.

01:30:10.920 Um, I have, wait, type.

01:30:16.800 We can go around the table on this, uh, while we wait for her to come back.

01:30:20.980 What's your type, Madison?

01:30:21.980 We'll go around this way.

01:30:22.800 Um, I'm not gonna say I don't have a type, because I feel like I definitely do with the

01:30:28.500 men that I've been with throughout my life.

01:30:32.580 Typically, white men.

01:30:35.740 Height, preference, probably tall, but obviously not really.

01:30:41.780 Like, I, my last boyfriend was 5'6", but, yeah.

01:30:48.500 Dark features.

01:30:49.520 I like dark hair.

01:30:50.160 In terms of, uh, like, looks, probably not, but more so, like, values and, like, someone

01:30:54.740 who's, like, super masculine.

01:30:57.040 Okay, so values, I assume, like, has, has to be Christian.

01:31:00.640 Christian, conservative values, yeah.

01:31:02.340 Okay.

01:31:03.980 Practicing Christian, conservative. 0.51

01:31:06.780 Same answer to the last question.

01:31:08.840 Uh, physical looks, I feel like vary, but 100%, like, they have to be a strong, masculine

01:31:17.260 man who wants to lead the household.

01:31:19.300 I want to be a wife, and, I mean, very traditional, traditional values.

01:31:24.960 Wait, just a question for you two.

01:31:26.460 Um, you both are Christian, correct?

01:31:28.080 Yes.

01:31:28.680 Um, are you guys, when it comes to, you know, getting married, are you guys waiting until

01:31:33.280 marriage?

01:31:33.980 Yeah. 0.96

01:31:34.540 To have sex? 0.99

01:31:35.840 Mm-hmm. 0.99

01:31:36.060 Um, yes.

01:31:37.620 I will say I've done it in the past, but currently waiting for marriage, and it's been about

01:31:42.840 two years.

01:31:43.660 Same with you?

01:31:44.580 Same thing, yeah.

01:31:44.960 Okay, so in the past, so.

01:31:46.800 I was previously engaged, so, yeah.

01:31:48.800 Okay.

01:31:49.140 I feel like the effort was.

01:31:50.900 Got it.

01:31:51.820 Smokin' pancakes.

01:31:52.740 Thank you, pancakes.

01:31:53.340 $199.

01:31:55.180 Brian Como-Savo is Cajun French for how's it going.

01:31:59.040 Oh, okay.

01:31:59.160 I worked hard to blow my money on a bordello.

01:32:02.180 I'd rather spend that on race car parts and the gym.

01:32:05.400 Thanks, but no thanks.

01:32:07.380 Okay, there you have it.

01:32:08.540 Uh, this is Smokin' pancakes.

01:32:09.860 I think he's the one who is 6'5", 210 pounds, makes 80K-something a year.

01:32:16.060 In his home 20Ks.

01:32:17.080 What kind of cars do you like?

01:32:18.680 I like Mustangs.

01:32:20.080 Oh, okay.

01:32:20.600 Yeah, I'm a Mustang girl.

01:32:22.300 All right.

01:32:23.940 Oh.

01:32:24.680 Oh.

01:32:24.940 Seven deadly sins donated $100.

01:32:27.360 Here we go.

01:32:29.440 777 decillion 777.

01:32:31.920 No, nillion.

01:32:34.480 777 notillion 777 septillion 777 septillion 777.

01:32:39.720 777 sextillion 777 quintillion.

01:32:44.240 Carly, name 10 bucks. 1.00

01:32:45.440 Or 7 bucks.

01:32:46.120 Go.

01:32:46.220 10 bucks.

01:32:47.900 Quick, go. 0.93

01:32:48.920 7 bucks.

01:32:49.600 Go, go, go.

01:32:49.980 The Song of Achilles Pride and Prejudice.

01:32:52.140 The Da Vinci Code.

01:32:53.260 The Da Vinci Code.

01:32:53.780 The Art of Not Giving a Hot.

01:32:59.320 Thank you, seven deadly sins.

01:33:02.700 Oh, you want me to keep going?

01:33:03.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:04.240 What you got for us?

01:33:05.040 Quick.

01:33:05.500 I'm scared.

01:33:06.060 I don't know already.

01:33:06.160 You got this.

01:33:06.980 Keep going.

01:33:07.620 You got it.

01:33:08.360 Over there.

01:33:08.780 You know where I'm thinking, right?

01:33:09.420 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:33:11.200 Movies are also books.

01:33:12.540 Movies are.

01:33:13.100 Some movies also have books.

01:33:13.960 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:33:14.440 I read Harry Potter.

01:33:15.340 I read The Hunger Games.

01:33:16.040 I read Divergent.

01:33:18.100 I have book-related tattoos.

01:33:20.840 I don't know why.

01:33:21.120 I can't think of anything.

01:33:23.200 You have book-related.

01:33:24.260 Should we do a tattoo check on?

01:33:25.580 Yeah.

01:33:25.860 I mean, I have pants on.

01:33:27.040 That's what I check.

01:33:27.940 Okay.

01:33:29.200 Well, like your.

01:33:30.120 What's visible?

01:33:31.000 What's visible?

01:33:31.300 My arms are visible.

01:33:33.060 Your arms are invisible-based?

01:33:34.120 No, my arms are visible.

01:33:37.220 I don't know.

01:33:37.720 They're pretty, like, another double-byer.

01:33:40.260 I mean, they're pretty visible.

01:33:41.760 I can do a little tattoo tour if you'd like.

01:33:45.360 I mean, these are the only ones that are visible, but I have a ton on my back and my legs, too.

01:33:49.080 Okay.

01:33:49.640 Yeah.

01:33:50.320 What precipitated getting all the tattoos?

01:33:53.360 Okay, so.

01:33:53.940 Do you like the art?

01:33:55.080 I, when I was, like, eight years old, I would take the inked magazines out of my mailbox at home,

01:34:00.660 and I would, like, hang.

01:34:01.780 Like, I thought the girls were so pretty. 1.00

01:34:03.200 Like, I just, I loved the look, to be honest.

01:34:05.760 I've always known I was going to be fully covered at some point.

01:34:08.280 Fully covered.

01:34:08.740 Much to my parents' dismay, but.

01:34:10.200 Much to your parents' dismay.

01:34:12.020 Are you, are there any areas of your body you won't tattoo, like your neck or face? 0.56

01:34:16.780 I will not touch my face.

01:34:18.060 Yes, I originally said I wouldn't touch my fingers or hands, but now that I'm hopefully

01:34:24.220 long-term in a job that doesn't require me to be super, super professional, I do have

01:34:28.920 a little teeny tiny finger tattoo.

01:34:32.220 I won't touch any, you know, private areas.

01:34:37.420 I'm trying to make it as, I understand that in everybody's eyes it's going to be a little

01:34:41.460 bit skanky, but I'm trying to be as.

01:34:44.220 Clean as possible, I guess.

01:34:45.800 Yeah, like.

01:34:46.260 Cleaned, yeah.

01:34:47.100 In the classiest way possible, almost.

01:34:49.600 I, even though my tattoos, I promise most of them mean something, even though they're

01:34:52.420 like artistic.

01:34:53.320 Sure.

01:34:54.180 Well, it's good.

01:34:54.600 I mean, it's good that, you know, you don't want them anywhere private.

01:34:57.300 I actually, I encountered a woman once who had a YOLO tattoo above her hoo-ha. 0.98

01:35:02.540 No.

01:35:02.840 It's a hoo-ha. 0.99

01:35:03.380 And that made me take pause.

01:35:08.340 Was it a girl you were getting down with?

01:35:10.280 Is that why you saw it?

01:35:11.180 Yeah, you still hit them.

01:35:12.660 We didn't, we like, we didn't go all the way, but I did see it.

01:35:18.300 You saw it.

01:35:18.760 And I was like, hold up.

01:35:20.480 That's an interesting tattoo.

01:35:21.860 It was a turn off.

01:35:22.380 So you were at YOLO.

01:35:24.020 Yeah, it was kind of a turn off.

01:35:25.280 I'm not going to lie.

01:35:26.020 Okay.

01:35:27.260 What does that mean?

01:35:29.460 Okay.

01:35:30.680 You got some tattoos.

01:35:32.220 You got.

01:35:33.380 I do.

01:35:34.920 Sorry.

01:35:35.520 I have Hawaiian flowers because I went to Hawaii and it was one of the best vacations of my life.

01:35:41.320 And it was beautiful.

01:35:42.840 So I got Hawaiian flowers.

01:35:44.100 I got lucky because I had the medical concern happen last year.

01:35:48.500 And I'm just, I'm lucky for that, getting out of it.

01:35:51.820 And then, oh, okay.

01:35:54.060 I got this Rosas tattoo.

01:35:55.720 This is my family's last name.

01:35:57.760 But I wasn't planning on it.

01:35:59.600 I didn't even have the money to do it.

01:36:00.820 It was just the tattoo artist.

01:36:03.220 Like, I went in for a sketch just to see what it would look like.

01:36:06.280 And he walks up to me and he said, hey, I'm going to be doing your tattoo.

01:36:10.060 And he was a big guy.

01:36:11.180 And he had tons of tattoos all over his face.

01:36:13.980 And I was like, oh, I just wanted.

01:36:15.700 And he said, I just got out of prison three days ago.

01:36:18.000 You're my first person I've ever tattooed.

01:36:19.820 And I'm like, I was moving money and different accounts.

01:36:22.740 I'm like, okay, I can't piss this guy off.

01:36:24.400 Like, I have to get it.

01:36:25.560 So I got it.

01:36:28.040 Okay.

01:36:28.360 Let's do it really quick on the, I don't know why I decided to do this.

01:36:32.180 Okay, go ahead.

01:36:33.520 I have, like, around almost 10.

01:36:37.100 They're pretty minimalistic, like, line work.

01:36:41.340 But, I mean.

01:36:42.100 Is that, there's the dice?

01:36:44.140 Are you a risk taker?

01:36:45.720 Well, a lot of them are philosophy related.

01:36:47.540 So this is like a Plato reference.

01:36:50.100 What is it?

01:36:50.560 It's, we must accept what has happened as we would the fall of dice.

01:36:54.980 Okay, I like that.

01:36:55.920 I like that.

01:36:56.340 What about, is that Uranus?

01:36:58.160 It's Saturn.

01:36:58.920 Oh, Saturn.

01:36:59.480 I don't really like this one just because it blew up.

01:37:01.800 And it looks a little corny because it's literally just Saturn.

01:37:04.500 And it's something you would see, like, when you're 12 years old.

01:37:06.880 But it's also a philosophy reference.

01:37:09.080 It's Aristotle when he said the cosmos are more divine than humans.

01:37:14.040 Okay.

01:37:14.600 Very cool.

01:37:15.980 My first tattoo was on my hip, Ahimsa.

01:37:18.980 And it means compassion for all living things in Hindu.

01:37:22.940 And then I have return to love here.

01:37:25.220 And then I have, like, a goddess embracing herself here.

01:37:28.100 And then this one meant self-love.

01:37:29.900 And, yeah.

01:37:30.720 I mean, I have, like, multiple.

01:37:31.720 I have, like, 15 or something.

01:37:33.700 No tattoos.

01:37:35.060 Any tattoos?

01:37:36.000 It's not really biblical to get tattoos.

01:37:37.960 The only tattoo I would get would be in Jerusalem.

01:37:40.200 It would be a cross at the oldest tattoo shop in the world called Rizuk. 0.77

01:37:43.640 Ooh.

01:37:43.940 It's the only place I would get a tattoo.

01:37:45.580 Oh, and there are two.

01:37:46.020 What would you get?

01:37:46.820 I would get a cross.

01:37:47.960 I would get one of the original crosses probably on my wrist area.

01:37:52.500 I was there last year when I got baptized in the Jordan River.

01:37:54.800 And I got, like, a necklace.

01:37:55.840 And I have my ring that I always wear.

01:37:57.300 I don't take my ring off.

01:37:58.540 So this is, like, my commitment to God.

01:38:01.000 But the only tattoo I would ever get would be that.

01:38:03.580 That's cool.

01:38:04.240 That's cool.

01:38:05.160 Madison, you got a couple, right?

01:38:06.900 Yeah.

01:38:07.260 I have two butterflies on my wrist because my family believes in, like, reincarnation.

01:38:11.680 So it's, like, in representation of my mom and my younger brother.

01:38:15.600 I have my mom's birth flower down my back, her birth year, angel wings.

01:38:20.460 And then I have my dad's birth year right here.

01:38:23.320 And then my mom's birthday on my rib.

01:38:26.820 Okay.

01:38:27.420 Got it.

01:38:28.060 We have a message here from Real Cam Higby.

01:38:31.180 Will you marry me, Isabella?

01:38:33.240 Hi, Cam.

01:38:34.560 You can or can't?

01:38:36.220 Can't.

01:38:36.600 Well, I said hi, Cam.

01:38:37.760 Oh, hi, Cam.

01:38:38.500 Okay.

01:38:38.620 We'll talk about it later.

01:38:40.500 All right.

01:38:41.340 Wait, you were married before?

01:38:43.060 No, I was engaged.

01:38:44.140 Oh, okay.

01:38:44.680 Yeah, I was engaged.

01:38:46.260 All right.

01:38:47.020 Marriage proposal.

01:38:48.120 Wait, here.

01:38:48.640 I will propose to you on behalf of Cam Higby.

01:38:52.500 No!

01:38:52.900 He actually sent me this ring.

01:38:54.560 Whoa! 0.71

01:38:55.160 No, I'm not.

01:38:56.020 It's not me proposing, but, um, hold on.

01:38:58.380 Oh! 0.60

01:38:58.640 Oh, my gosh.

01:38:59.400 It's so pretty.

01:39:00.260 It's a rock.

01:39:00.760 What a nice thing.

01:39:01.160 He sent me this.

01:39:01.960 Oh, my gosh.

01:39:02.300 He literally sent me this to do this in this exact moment.

01:39:05.160 That's really nice.

01:39:05.720 Here, just at least try it on.

01:39:07.460 All right, if it fits?

01:39:08.620 Just try it on.

01:39:09.020 Then it's meant to be.

01:39:09.860 If it doesn't, then...

01:39:11.020 I got you, Cam.

01:39:12.020 What's up?

01:39:12.460 It's a little bit.

01:39:13.280 It's a little bit?

01:39:14.000 It's a little bit big.

01:39:15.380 It's a little bit.

01:39:16.120 We'll readjust it.

01:39:17.080 We'll readjust it.

01:39:17.880 You get to resize.

01:39:18.780 Wow.

01:39:19.980 Okay, you got...

01:39:20.880 I mean, you did put it on, so technically you accepted it.

01:39:24.660 You're now engaged.

01:39:26.020 Okay, cool.

01:39:27.200 All right.

01:39:27.800 I got you, Cam.

01:39:29.000 And then we have Puffy Vegas here.

01:39:31.380 What do I have to do to get on the show?

01:39:34.040 We tried calling you last time, Puffy Vegas.

01:39:35.240 Yeah, dude, we called...

01:39:35.980 I don't know if you checked your Instagram last show.

01:39:38.000 I called you like 10 times in a row on Instagram.

01:39:41.960 So we have a question here from Stifler.

01:39:44.900 Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.

01:39:47.140 We will start with you, and then we'll go around the table.

01:39:50.800 Go ahead.

01:39:52.000 I'd like to say a 7, iffy 7.

01:39:58.240 Okay.

01:40:02.760 I guess like a 6 or 7.

01:40:05.700 I say a 10 because my body's done a good job this year.

01:40:09.760 10?

01:40:10.320 It's done a good job this year in taking care of me.

01:40:12.400 Well, like, it's not a rating on how well your body has taken care of you.

01:40:17.500 It's more so like your physical attractiveness.

01:40:20.860 You know, I guess if I could work out, maybe like at 8, and I could maybe just like work

01:40:25.900 out a little more, that would be nice.

01:40:27.360 I want to get back in the gym, and I want arms like that.

01:40:29.920 It's pretty.

01:40:30.360 I like that.

01:40:31.140 I like your guys' things.

01:40:32.580 Do you do any personal training?

01:40:35.400 No, I don't.

01:40:36.280 Well, kind of.

01:40:38.160 Do you personal training?

01:40:39.080 I just started training like my boss.

01:40:41.000 Can we get the most muscular?

01:40:42.860 Yeah.

01:40:44.060 Wait, get the what?

01:40:44.980 Most muscular.

01:40:46.460 Oh, that's a...

01:40:47.060 It's front.

01:40:48.620 Quad, double by.

01:40:50.500 Huh?

01:40:50.980 Like, think about when they say, like, you've watched like a bodybuilding show before.

01:40:55.540 Sorry, I'm not in the mic.

01:40:56.300 Kind of.

01:40:56.860 When they turn to the front, you show like everything from the front, like a front double by.

01:41:01.360 It's like, you're like this.

01:41:03.640 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:04.160 Do your trap pose.

01:41:05.720 Roll your sleeves up in your trap pose.

01:41:07.320 Roll my...

01:41:07.760 Well, you can't see my...

01:41:08.840 It's more your shoulders and stuff.

01:41:10.760 Wait, where did this even come from?

01:41:12.480 Why am I constantly flexing?

01:41:14.160 You can't even see my traps right now.

01:41:15.660 I like your muscles, but you can't even see them.

01:41:17.520 Can't really see.

01:41:18.320 Okay, well.

01:41:19.100 Well, just because she's looking to work out, so...

01:41:21.140 Oh, oh, oh.

01:41:22.140 I'm going to hit you up.

01:41:23.320 Do it.

01:41:24.760 Okay.

01:41:26.180 I didn't go.

01:41:27.480 Oh, yeah.

01:41:27.980 I refuse to rate myself.

01:41:30.400 Why?

01:41:30.680 Because I feel like I don't have...

01:41:33.860 I don't really know how to perceive myself, to be honest.

01:41:36.760 But I'll just say I like to carry confidence, but I also criticize myself a lot.

01:41:45.920 Not in like an unhealthy way, but I think everyone understands what I mean.

01:41:51.820 What about you?

01:41:52.240 So, I've watched a few of your, like, shows here, at least 10, and I realized that whenever

01:42:00.600 someone says 10, they get roasted.

01:42:03.360 But then I told Matt that I was not going to say 10, and he said, what?

01:42:07.520 So, I'm just saying 10.

01:42:09.060 So, yeah.

01:42:10.560 Wow, that was a lot of backstory.

01:42:11.760 I would say a solid 7.

01:42:16.660 Solid 7.

01:42:17.320 I would say solid 7.

01:42:19.300 8.

01:42:20.580 Okay.

01:42:22.060 All right.

01:42:22.840 Well, he says ask everyone.

01:42:24.640 I give myself a 6.

01:42:26.580 Why?

01:42:27.200 Just a 6?

01:42:28.940 Eh.

01:42:29.680 No.

01:42:30.220 Okay.

01:42:30.940 I'd say I'm a 6, you know.

01:42:32.400 No.

01:42:33.320 All right.

01:42:33.640 Well, thank you.

01:42:34.060 It means the world coming from you.

01:42:37.160 But, yeah.

01:42:39.680 So, you know.

01:42:40.500 Let's, you know.

01:42:42.420 Okay.

01:42:42.800 I think we're, like, at least a 7 or 8.

01:42:45.580 What, me?

01:42:46.520 You don't got to gas me up.

01:42:47.720 It's okay.

01:42:49.100 All right.

01:42:49.380 Someone was low-balling you the last episode.

01:42:52.860 Oh, the low-balling episode.

01:42:53.720 Yeah.

01:42:54.000 I was like, wow.

01:42:55.360 What?

01:42:55.820 She's like, I'm a 6, but I think I'm a little cuter than you.

01:42:59.120 Yeah.

01:43:01.200 Yeah.

01:43:01.760 Actually, it's unfortunate.

01:43:02.820 I was going to properly rebuke her, but some TTS, some Super Chats came in, and it slipped 1.00

01:43:10.840 my mind.

01:43:11.680 But, no.

01:43:15.280 Just, yeah.

01:43:15.920 I know.

01:43:16.440 I was also like, what?

01:43:17.600 Did you go?

01:43:18.420 Did you go?

01:43:19.040 Yeah.

01:43:19.280 I said 8.

01:43:19.880 Oh, okay.

01:43:20.780 All right.

01:43:21.060 We have Tommy Bythe.

01:43:23.380 Hey, thank you, man.

01:43:23.860 Appreciate the Super Chat.

01:43:24.780 Appreciate your patronage.

01:43:26.240 Brian, appreciate all the work you're doing here in bringing awareness to modern dating

01:43:29.480 issues.

01:43:30.000 Keep up the great work.

01:43:31.040 We need to, it's been a little tame tonight.

01:43:33.040 We need to get into it, guys.

01:43:34.180 We need to get into it, okay?

01:43:35.580 I feel like the Adam 22 thing was kind of getting into it a bit.

01:43:39.260 Was it?

01:43:39.720 I think so.

01:43:40.880 A little bit.

01:43:41.460 It's kind of spicy between us.

01:43:42.860 I liked it.

01:43:43.040 A little bit spicy there.

01:43:44.440 Well, you know what?

01:43:46.080 I think I might have something here that might get us going a little bit.

01:43:49.420 But we had Puffy Vegas.

01:43:51.120 He wanted to give his rating.

01:43:52.660 So he says the girls are 767, 7.5, 777, 7.5, 7.5.

01:43:59.920 I'm not sure which direction, but probably, yeah.

01:44:04.820 I've dated five separate women who are married to famous men.

01:44:08.080 They were, excuse me, they were all divorced at the time I met them.

01:44:12.360 Okay.

01:44:13.060 Thank you, Puffy Vegas.

01:44:14.760 Appreciate it.

01:44:16.660 And guys, if you want, get your chats in.

01:44:18.900 Okay.

01:44:19.060 So, Kat, you, in your pre-show messages to us, you had indicated, sorry, I'm getting this

01:44:25.560 pulled up, that you're not in favor of hookup culture.

01:44:29.520 Is that correct? 0.99

01:44:30.840 Hookup culture sucks, is what you said. 0.99

01:44:33.800 I did say that, yeah. 0.99

01:44:34.980 Okay.

01:44:36.540 You also said, though, that you think body count is irrelevant, correct?

01:44:41.140 Correct.

01:44:41.540 Okay.

01:44:42.920 And in addition to that, you also said men are weird for wanting young virgins.

01:44:48.800 Correct.

01:44:50.180 Are men weird for wanting virgins?

01:44:52.880 No.

01:44:53.580 I think specifically, like, young virgins.

01:44:55.800 I think when it comes to body count, it's like, if you, you know, you have, like, certain

01:45:00.480 values.

01:45:01.480 Sorry, I just want to say.

01:45:02.400 Matthew McCarthy donated $99.

01:45:05.220 You're all tense.

01:45:06.820 I'm biased, so my boo baller is a 15.

01:45:09.640 Brian, have some confidence, bro.

01:45:12.680 You're a 10.

01:45:13.780 Come to Heart Summer Festival this weekend.

01:45:16.340 I promise you won't regret it and we'll have the best time of your life.

01:45:20.360 True.

01:45:20.980 Brian.

01:45:21.500 Nice.

01:45:22.080 Come party it up.

01:45:23.080 Have some.

01:45:23.540 Are you going?

01:45:24.100 We're going to Heart Summer, yeah?

01:45:25.360 Yeah.

01:45:26.060 I'm really excited.

01:45:27.080 Really?

01:45:27.620 Yeah.

01:45:28.260 What is Heart Summer?

01:45:29.460 Is that like a music festival?

01:45:30.740 It's a music festival.

01:45:31.900 Mostly EDM in downtown LA.

01:45:35.340 I don't, I don't.

01:45:36.460 Do you like rock at all?

01:45:40.740 Don't worry.

01:45:41.300 It's some drunk college kids.

01:45:44.420 I do like rock.

01:45:45.480 I don't really, I don't like to, honestly, I'm pretty introverted, so I don't like.

01:45:49.700 Okay.

01:45:49.980 Makes sense.

01:45:50.500 Makes sense.

01:45:50.800 Like large gatherings of people.

01:45:53.840 I don't really like, like partying either. 0.98

01:45:57.000 I don't know about bars or clubs or any of that shit. 0.85

01:45:58.940 So. 0.98

01:45:59.060 Yeah.

01:45:59.280 Same.

01:45:59.720 Just festivals.

01:46:01.340 I think a music festival is a little different, but it's still kind of just within the realm

01:46:04.980 of, I don't know, it's just not.

01:46:06.180 I get that, yeah.

01:46:06.760 It's like way too overstimulating for me.

01:46:09.020 I just.

01:46:09.500 Yeah.

01:46:10.100 That's how most of my girlfriends feel, so I can, me and Matt just go.

01:46:13.380 Wait, I have a question.

01:46:14.800 So if you think it's, I do think body count is important.

01:46:17.440 I think it's, I do think statistically it's important because the more bodies that a person

01:46:22.140 has, both male and female, the higher the divorce rate is and the more unhappy 0.98

01:46:26.680 that you're going to be.

01:46:27.480 But, so you said it was weird for like men to want like young virgins.

01:46:31.960 I really don't think that there are like old virgins around, but also then is it weird 0.82

01:46:35.740 that like a 50 year old wanted something with you that was like intimate?

01:46:40.500 Oh, with me as a 26 year old?

01:46:42.520 Yeah.

01:46:43.100 Um, yeah, that would be weird.

01:46:44.880 But you said you did.

01:46:46.060 I did.

01:46:46.500 Yeah.

01:46:46.660 And that was weird.

01:46:47.960 Okay.

01:46:48.700 Yeah.

01:46:49.140 Okay.

01:46:49.540 Weird.

01:46:50.140 Weird for you or for him?

01:46:52.580 Um, weird on his part.

01:46:54.240 I mean, you know.

01:46:55.180 Well, where's the accountability?

01:46:56.140 I mean, you're 20, you're 26, right?

01:46:58.400 I was 21 at the time.

01:47:00.720 Okay.

01:47:01.080 Adult.

01:47:01.840 Yeah.

01:47:02.040 I was adult.

01:47:02.840 No, I mean, no, I'm not, no, I'm not saying that, oh my God, that I was groomed or something.

01:47:06.460 But like, I mean, I was just trying to have a good time.

01:47:10.200 I was like, oh my God, he has a lot of money.

01:47:12.080 But like, I feel like the, the weird part stands on him.

01:47:15.700 I mean, I was, I was just there.

01:47:17.840 Do you think you were, sorry.

01:47:19.540 No, no, no.

01:47:19.820 You're fine.

01:47:20.120 Go ahead.

01:47:20.340 Do you think that that's reinforcing his behavior though?

01:47:23.240 In what sense?

01:47:26.320 I just feel like even if you think it's wrong and you still participate in it, that's kind

01:47:30.900 of justifying it.

01:47:32.980 Well, yeah, but I mean, I'm not saying that he, okay.

01:47:37.140 It's kind of enabling.

01:47:38.320 I'm not saying that he's wrong.

01:47:40.260 It's just weird.

01:47:41.180 There's a difference between like something being like inherently wrong and then something

01:47:44.600 that is a little weird.

01:47:45.780 Like he never, and honestly, we like dated, but it wasn't like super serious.

01:47:50.000 Like we're not going to get, we're never going to get married or anything.

01:47:52.900 It was very much casual.

01:47:55.120 But I think it's weird for, and also I wasn't a 21 year old who was like a virgin or anything.

01:48:01.320 I think it's weird for men who are, you know, older who want to marry and kind of, in my

01:48:09.880 opinion, groom young women, especially if they're 18, 19, who like haven't had sex yet.

01:48:15.740 Or honestly, even any woman who hasn't had sex yet, if you're an experienced man, I think

01:48:21.940 that's very interesting.

01:48:22.820 That I agree with.

01:48:24.020 Because I feel like it's, but you said like it's weird for men to want like young virgins.

01:48:28.020 I feel like there's a big difference between like a 50 year old man wanting like an 18 year

01:48:31.140 old virgin and like, you know, a 30 year old or 27 year old wanting like a virgin.

01:48:35.680 I agree.

01:48:36.340 Or a good girl. 0.55

01:48:36.980 I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

01:48:38.440 I completely agree with you.

01:48:40.120 I also, can I just say.

01:48:41.380 Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

01:48:41.940 I also think that like from my conversations that I've had, I always find that it is girls

01:48:47.380 typically with very high body counts that tend to believe that body counts do not matter.

01:48:52.460 And that's my opinion.

01:48:55.480 Yeah, no, definitely.

01:48:56.760 I mean, I also feel like women with low body counts kind of want like a little like reward 1.00

01:49:01.040 for like not doing that, which is great.

01:49:03.540 Like, I mean, good for you.

01:49:04.700 So, um, but yeah, it's, that's, I could say the same thing.

01:49:09.760 Well, I feel like that like women with low body counts, um, feel like they're better than 1.00

01:49:15.400 women than with high body counts. 1.00

01:49:16.240 I don't think it's a better thing.

01:49:17.520 I think it's just like a thing.

01:49:19.160 Like, I think it should be acknowledged that in like a world where it's like everyone's

01:49:23.380 hooking up with each other and that's the easiest thing to do and to not be promiscuous.

01:49:26.780 I do think that in and of itself is something that's like recognizable.

01:49:29.760 I think it's unfair to a lot of women. 1.00

01:49:33.080 I mean, I'm personally, I'm going to keep myself out of this because, um, I personally

01:49:37.460 feel that it's unfair.

01:49:39.960 And I think somebody was on here.

01:49:41.360 I watched, um, an episode a couple of days ago.

01:49:44.080 It was somebody's husband, Billy, Billy, Billy something's husband.

01:49:48.580 He mentioned how it's kind of unfair to blame women these days for having a higher body count

01:49:53.860 because we were kind of told the, oh, it's great.

01:49:56.160 It's okay.

01:49:56.640 And then all of a sudden, like, I want to say, like, I had never heard about body count

01:50:01.140 at all, you know, after high school, you know, I'm 26 now.

01:50:04.800 And then now that I'm 26, uh, like last year, I started hearing about it again.

01:50:10.060 And like, it's kind of weird because I feel like it didn't matter.

01:50:12.340 And also, I also, I find it to be kind of juvenile.

01:50:15.580 I mean, if a guy asked me my body count, I would be like, how old are you?

01:50:18.620 Like, it should not matter.

01:50:20.420 It's not.

01:50:20.620 Well, if he wanted a serious relationship with you and wanted a marriage with you, I mean, it's

01:50:24.440 statistically, the marriage success rate goes down the toilet and women are 80%, 80% of 0.79

01:50:29.480 marriage or, sorry, 50% of marriages in the United States ended in divorce and 80% of

01:50:34.120 those are initiated by women, which is directly correlated to if you have slept with more people

01:50:39.220 and you have more bodies on your record, you're more likely to get a divorce.

01:50:42.640 So I don't think it's unfair for a man to ask, hey, how many men have you been with in the

01:50:47.280 past?

01:50:47.520 Because that's going to impact him and his future too.

01:50:49.860 And I also think there's a difference between like some random person asking your body count

01:50:53.320 and someone who genuinely wants to have a relationship with you and be intimate with

01:50:56.420 you.

01:50:56.700 I think, I think that body count is important to the person that you're with and being

01:51:01.960 intimate with.

01:51:02.600 I think that's fair.

01:51:04.000 I mean, I, like I said, I have no issue with people like, um, having issue with body

01:51:09.360 counts, but only if their body count is also like low.

01:51:12.260 Like, I just don't like how men will come on here or like any other podcast or just vocalize

01:51:17.140 how they are allowed to have sex with 300, 400 women, but then expect to be with a woman 0.96

01:51:25.120 with a one or two. 0.63

01:51:26.300 Oh, well, no, I mean, that's like, yeah.

01:51:28.820 Hold on just a sec.

01:51:29.800 Thank you, Prometheus.

01:51:31.020 I sort of agree as I watched how the relationship between little Ed and Liz Wood's relationship

01:51:37.240 is a mess, but that's exaggerated TV. 0.50

01:51:40.300 I've been with someone with a high body count and the one with a lower one.

01:51:44.460 The lower one showed sympathy unlike the other.

01:51:48.160 Thank you, Prometheus.

01:51:49.440 Appreciate it.

01:51:50.640 He's been with someone with high body count.

01:51:52.400 Okay.

01:51:52.960 All right.

01:51:54.300 Continue with your point.

01:51:55.300 Um, I also wanted to add that, um, I feel like it's less about how many people you slept

01:52:02.180 with.

01:52:04.660 Thank you, Flam Life, for the 20 gifted memberships.

01:52:07.400 Appreciate it.

01:52:07.960 You think it's less about?

01:52:09.340 Um, it's less about how many people you slept with and more about like your experience with

01:52:13.940 relationships.

01:52:14.600 Like, I feel like one bad relationship will truly taint a man or woman for their future

01:52:21.560 ones.

01:52:22.000 I think it's less about casual sex and, um, I mean, I don't know.

01:52:26.460 I mean, I've seen the studies and whatnot.

01:52:28.140 I think that's one study.

01:52:29.200 I don't know if there's been multiple.

01:52:30.840 Um, so I can't, I don't have a lot to comment on the one side.

01:52:35.460 Oh, closer.

01:52:37.840 Do you agree that psychologically though, the more people that women sleep with, it changes 0.82

01:52:42.980 the chemicals like in your brain to where you're enabled to have a longer term relationship

01:52:48.360 with a man?

01:52:49.420 That's like, that's like, no, I mean, I, I mean, look, I, I've, I don't have, I personally

01:52:56.180 don't have issues with relationships at all or falling in love.

01:52:58.680 The one thing that did change me personally was like this one bad experience that I had

01:53:02.980 with a man.

01:53:03.580 And that's what I, what I feel like is more detrimental as opposed to like sleeping with

01:53:09.160 a bunch of people.

01:53:09.700 I don't think that it really matters that much.

01:53:12.360 Well, you mentioned that, well, having a specifically one bad toxic relationship may have more of

01:53:19.420 a negative impact than having high body count, but it can be both.

01:53:22.460 I mean, certainly, yes.

01:53:23.380 If you have a one singular bad relationship that could potentially, um, have a negative

01:53:29.760 impact on your future relationships.

01:53:31.140 But certainly if you've had like a long string of transient sexual partners, you know, you've

01:53:37.000 had 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, one night stands or short term, whatever that has a negative

01:53:43.780 impact too.

01:53:44.420 I think it kind of depends on like, especially when it comes to women, um, I, well, so when

01:53:50.580 I was in high school, um, a lot of like my friends like just would have sex with guys

01:53:55.480 because they didn't know how to say no.

01:53:58.340 And that, I think that can be traumatic and that can change you.

01:54:01.780 But I mean, are we just like doubting like women's sexuality? 1.00

01:54:05.060 Like some women are just fucking. 1.00

01:54:06.520 No, I think there's a difference. 1.00

01:54:07.820 I think there's a difference.

01:54:08.940 There's a difference though between doubting a woman's sexuality and then borderline being

01:54:14.220 like, it's okay to sleep with whoever you think you want to or who you're attracted

01:54:17.640 to at the time.

01:54:18.560 And like Morgan said, like statistically, it's been proven that like women are getting 1.00

01:54:23.600 divorces literally because of their body counts, quite literally. 0.62

01:54:26.700 I think it does make commitment harder.

01:54:28.620 And I don't believe women who have high body counts feel good about themselves. 1.00

01:54:32.060 I don't know how someone can feel like good about themselves having so many.

01:54:35.800 And I'm not attacking you personally.

01:54:36.860 I'm just saying like in general, like I don't know how I could feel good about myself having

01:54:40.820 like so many bodies to the point where like I've lost track.

01:54:43.940 Well, before I have you respond, you wanted to come in.

01:54:46.400 Go ahead.

01:54:46.660 I was just going to say you can be horny and control your desires.

01:54:49.420 That's not really an excuse at all.

01:54:51.280 How come we don't expect that for men though?

01:54:52.960 I do.

01:54:53.280 I don't like when men have a high body count.

01:54:55.120 I think that there's a difference between men and women.

01:54:57.320 I do believe that sometimes men need to like get it out of their system, but I'm not saying

01:55:01.280 that men should be able to sleep with 50 plus women because they're men.

01:55:04.840 And I think that's where people like get confused too.

01:55:06.840 Like even with conservatism, like, oh, men need to get out of their systems. 0.99

01:55:09.920 They can like sleep with whoever. 0.99

01:55:10.840 No, that's disgusting to me too.

01:55:12.480 Why would I, if my body count is so low or I've like worked hard to like preserve myself

01:55:18.220 for my husband, why would I want to marry someone who has 40 bodies, 50 bodies, 60 bodies? 0.98

01:55:23.760 Also, I want to mention that that study that you're referencing, it talks about people

01:55:28.320 who have like, there's a big difference in when it comes to divorce, when it comes to

01:55:33.260 people who have had more than one body count beyond that.

01:55:36.300 And it's the same for men and women.

01:55:38.960 It's more pronounced in women. 1.00

01:55:40.060 Yeah, it's more in women. 1.00

01:55:41.340 Also, yeah, if you have more experience, like naturally, like you're going to like not

01:55:46.460 accept the least.

01:55:47.580 And yeah, if you've only slept with one person your entire life, like you're not going to

01:55:51.460 have the experience or maybe even like the confidence to want to leave that person.

01:55:55.480 Well, I don't think it's experience.

01:55:56.840 And I think divorce is fine, by the way.

01:55:58.480 I don't know.

01:55:59.260 You think divorce is fine?

01:56:00.820 100%.

01:56:01.180 Even if there's kids involved, do you think divorce is fine?

01:56:03.760 Yes.

01:56:04.020 I'm a child of divorce and I'm glad my parents got divorced.

01:56:06.400 And you think that your life spent out the way that you want it to because of you?

01:56:09.260 Yes.

01:56:10.800 Okay.

01:56:11.140 My parents fought all the time when I was a kid.

01:56:13.380 And actually, I feel like their fighting almost was more detrimental than them getting

01:56:17.380 divorced.

01:56:18.580 I mean, I feel like in situations like that, it's a little bit different, right?

01:56:21.200 Where there's like an abusive situation.

01:56:22.760 No, it was not abusive, like not physical.

01:56:25.500 Emotionally abusive, yelling, right?

01:56:27.140 Just a lot of yelling, yeah.

01:56:28.020 So I would feel like I'd consider that like under the guise of like abuse, but also to

01:56:32.380 like the going, like the marriage thing, like a lot of people, like we've in America, we've

01:56:36.480 had 53 years of no fault divorces.

01:56:38.600 People have been able to get divorces for whatever reason they feel like.

01:56:41.540 And I feel like that has like been against our demise where people like get marriages

01:56:45.200 and like Adam 22 is the perfect example.

01:56:47.560 I think it's an absolute mockery of marriage and what it should be.

01:56:50.080 Or like even like you sitting here like single or whatever, like not married, like being

01:56:56.540 okay with like divorce.

01:56:57.980 Like, I guess I just can't like wrap my mind around that.

01:57:00.320 I feel like that's detrimental to like you, your husband, your future kids.

01:57:04.260 I feel like it's very unfair to your future children, especially if they are involved.

01:57:08.980 I think it depends on the, on the scenario, but, but I don't, what I don't, if it was like

01:57:14.440 a divorce where there was just, it, it was detrimenting the whole family and they, and

01:57:18.500 everybody went to counseling.

01:57:19.480 I do believe you should at least go to some sort of counseling.

01:57:22.320 You've got, you've got to try to make it work.

01:57:23.680 Like, you can't just be like, oh, I'm splitting and, and, but I do feel serial remarriers,

01:57:29.020 they need to fix themselves.

01:57:30.740 Yes, 100%.

01:57:31.340 And, and, and it's like, if you see yourself getting divorced, getting married, get, you

01:57:35.100 start checking why you're either attracting these types of people or why.

01:57:40.420 Valdev donated $100.

01:57:44.180 Blue tank fam, how are you going to show up with a Leo crank to 10 and talk about sexuality?

01:57:49.540 You know what you're doing.

01:57:50.960 At Ariel, the abs plate is for sure foreplay.

01:57:53.580 I got you Conan, 18 ladies, rich man or combat, effective man. 0.53

01:57:57.760 I wish I knew what he said.

01:58:00.200 Blue tank, that's me.

01:58:01.220 We're going to need like a, uh, some sort of cipher, something to decipher, uh, this,

01:58:07.580 this riddle.

01:58:08.620 I think he's commenting on your outfit.

01:58:11.040 Oh.

01:58:11.220 I mean, I, I'm not, I'm just trying to decipher this for you.

01:58:15.080 Oh, we have another one.

01:58:16.040 And underscore guy underscore and underscore Canada donated $99.

01:58:20.840 Body count is a dumb conversation because it's not zero sum.

01:58:25.200 If guys want women with lower body counts, they should stop increasing them. 0.99

01:58:29.160 Um, that's another thing I want to talk about.

01:58:31.500 Yeah.

01:58:32.040 Well, I mean, I mean, on that topic though, what I would say is there's a smaller proportion

01:58:38.720 of men that are supposedly responsible, responsible for increasing women's body count.

01:58:46.280 But it's kind of like the only fans thing too.

01:58:48.160 Like a lot of men will be like, oh, this is so bad and it's so horrible, but who's creating

01:58:52.080 the supply?

01:58:52.880 I mean, who's creating the demand and then who's meeting the supply?

01:58:55.800 Like, do I know women who do only fans and like making six figures, do I necessarily

01:59:01.040 blame them?

01:59:02.740 No, you know, but the same men that like, yeah, I mean, I think that there's definitely.

01:59:07.180 I'm so with you.

01:59:08.140 Men should not be spending money on only fans.

01:59:11.780 Yeah.

01:59:12.040 Because the men are instigating the women to continue doing it. 1.00

01:59:14.540 But then if the men are like, well, I don't want to marry someone who has a high body count,

01:59:18.160 but then they're also instigating.

01:59:18.800 Yeah, thank you, Flammar.

01:59:19.420 It's a two-way street.

01:59:20.280 A hundred percent.

01:59:20.660 Men are also doing it as well.

01:59:22.160 Right.

01:59:22.540 Yeah.

01:59:23.040 Doing OF?

01:59:23.860 Yeah, for sure.

01:59:25.620 Yeah, there's no one who do only fans.

01:59:26.880 Actually, I do technically.

01:59:28.540 A lot of men are doing only fans and a lot of their audience are other men as well.

01:59:31.920 You have an only fan?

01:59:32.440 Yeah, but it's like a meme. 0.93

01:59:33.760 I don't post, like, I'm not posting, like, nudes and shit.

01:59:36.180 It's just like. 0.89

01:59:37.800 I guess now you don't have to.

01:59:39.000 There's like two photos of Kiki on there.

01:59:41.820 Yeah, it's just for jokes, but.

01:59:43.200 I will say my fiancé and I never talked about body count until we started watching whatever.

01:59:48.880 Everyone was talking about it.

01:59:50.980 Oh.

01:59:51.260 Hold on.

01:59:51.620 Just a second.

01:59:52.180 Yo, thank you, Curtis.

01:59:54.260 Body count is in every episode.

01:59:57.160 I don't seem to care.

01:59:58.680 When you really think about it, you can just lie.

02:00:01.880 A chick could have been bred by 50 bucks.

02:00:04.060 I wouldn't be able to judge them.

02:00:06.180 I could just tell chicks I'm a virgin till they meet my kid. 0.99

02:00:09.600 When someone has a high body count, I feel like you can always tell.

02:00:14.920 There's always something that somebody has a high body count.

02:00:18.700 Both in men and in women, yeah.

02:00:20.460 Out of curiosity, I want to know what.

02:00:22.780 Thank you, Curtis.

02:00:23.400 Sorry.

02:00:24.080 I want to know what your, everybody's stances on, hypothetically, if a woman were to have a high body count or be promiscuous and then, for lack of better words, be remorseful about it.

02:00:35.760 I think that there's a lot of women. 1.00

02:00:37.860 Yeah, I'm just curious.

02:00:38.660 I think that there's, if that's...

02:00:40.660 Devon Jackson donated $100.

02:00:43.840 Stop blaming men for grown independent women's decisions.

02:00:47.220 Having a high body count comes with a set of habits the average man would prefer his wife not exemplify.

02:00:54.440 Facts.

02:00:55.020 True.

02:00:55.440 That's just facts.

02:00:55.940 That's facts.

02:00:56.600 It's facts.

02:00:57.060 It's facts.

02:00:57.900 It's facts.

02:00:59.240 Big facts.

02:00:59.640 Thank you, Devon.

02:01:00.300 To answer your question, I feel like there's a lot of women who are lied to, and I have friends who are older who have said, you even said, body count really wasn't even talked about.

02:01:10.300 And I think that there's a lot of women, specifically in feminism, who relied to say that this was empowering and that they would have time later on in their lives for a family and that there was no need to do that in their 20s.

02:01:19.440 And now that most of them, and people even I know, find themselves remorseful for their lifestyles, unmarried, no children.

02:01:26.640 And I think that if they're remorseful for the lifestyle, I think that's okay, as opposed to being proud of their lifestyle and standing by it.

02:01:35.500 Do you think that sex positivity is kind of like a ruse that's in the interest of men?

02:01:44.340 I think that it definitely benefits men, and that's why I don't understand why so much women harp on it, because it's literally, you're being used, and it's at your demise. 0.98

02:01:53.120 It only benefits one person, and it's not you.

02:01:55.900 If sex work was truly empowering for women, men would not support it.

02:01:59.600 Exactly.

02:02:00.220 To be honest.

02:02:00.600 100%.

02:02:01.240 I also think the modern feminist movement has completely lied to women to be empowered, to enable them to go into sex work, which is just a lie. 0.80

02:02:10.160 I mean, men are the ones that are, again, supplying that to where, I mean, OnlyFans really is the biggest PIMP of it all, taking 20% of every single woman's money that they're making on this account by posting nude images of themselves under the guise of being empowering.

02:02:23.700 And so it's just another lie that, I mean, the feminist movement has continued to sell to women, on top of, like, even the birth control movement.

02:02:30.980 When birth control came out, it was being able to be sexual and sleep around with people with no consequences.

02:02:37.480 And that's when that started to come, in the early times, that's why it was put on the market.

02:02:42.060 You know, why aren't men having birth control?

02:02:44.260 I'm not on birth control at all, but I think there's multiple moments in history that women have just continuously been lied to and encouraged to have a higher body count. 0.79

02:02:52.620 Matthew McCarthy donated $99.

02:02:55.820 Hey, thank you, Matthew.

02:02:56.300 The only thing body count determines is how experienced your partner is in the bedroom.

02:03:01.640 I've hooked up with virgins and they were all zzzzzzzz.

02:03:06.280 Boo Baller is hands down the best sexual partner I've ever had that continues to surprise me and blow my mind. 1.00

02:03:12.880 Ha ha.

02:03:15.900 He's very open.

02:03:17.140 But no, yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know.

02:03:19.340 Thank you.

02:03:20.140 So this is your boyfriend who has just sent a TTS to a live, fiance to live stream advertising your sexual abilities.

02:03:29.160 I don't, hey, different strokes for different folks.

02:03:33.700 But okay, like, okay, I mean, I'm the only guy here.

02:03:36.340 But I mean, we've asked guys this question before.

02:03:38.320 And this is often a common attempt at a rebuttal to the whole body count thing.

02:03:43.140 Well, oh, well, as a guy, like, don't you want a girl who's sexually experienced? 0.99

02:03:48.380 Isn't the sex going to be better? 0.98

02:03:51.520 Perhaps.

02:03:52.160 But, like, there's other factors when it comes to attractiveness. 0.54

02:03:55.220 Like, and also, like, as a guy, typically, if you know how to lead in the bedroom, you can take a girl who's never had sex and had great sex with her. 0.76

02:04:05.100 I'll finish after this. 0.87

02:04:06.140 Thank you, Prometheus.

02:04:06.620 People with high body counts are desensitized to understand relationships and if they can honor it or respect it.

02:04:15.040 Word.

02:04:15.680 Thank you, Prometheus.

02:04:16.640 True.

02:04:16.820 Yeah, this idea, like, also, like, a woman who's been in one long-term relationship, you could argue that she's maybe had sex more often with that one person versus a girl.

02:04:32.420 Like, let's say a girl has had sex with one guy a thousand times versus a girl who's had sex with a hundred guys one time each.

02:04:40.180 I mean, I'm going to probably think, like, the girl who was in the relationship could, like, probably is going to be better. 0.52

02:04:47.460 In any case, as a guy, if you know how to lead in the bedroom, like, you can take a girl who's never had sex before and have great sex with her.

02:04:54.340 Well, I think that's something that's special you to. 0.96

02:04:56.100 Go ahead.

02:04:56.620 I kind of wanted, oh.

02:04:58.280 Oh, I thought you were addressing what I was saying.

02:04:59.940 Oh, I actually, yeah.

02:05:01.040 So, I have two thoughts at once.

02:05:04.400 So, yeah, but you're kind of, you're talking about it from a guy's perspective.

02:05:08.120 Like, yeah, maybe you can enjoy it, but, like, is she going to enjoy it?

02:05:11.900 And, like, is she going to be comfortable?

02:05:14.100 Because, I mean, I don't look what I was, I mean, sorry.

02:05:16.300 No, no, no, no, no, what?

02:05:17.480 I mean, when I was first having sex, like, I know that it wasn't as comfortable for me, and I feel like both partners.

02:05:23.760 Hold on, I'll let you continue, hold on.

02:05:26.460 Brian, here's $100 to refund the virtue signaling Simpoo tried to blame men for a woman's promiscuity. 1.00

02:05:34.140 Thank you, Alvin Sam.

02:05:35.000 Good to see you in the chat, man.

02:05:35.900 And, look, I think, yeah, who was it who did that anyways?

02:05:42.040 Oh, let me, actually, really quick, let me get this.

02:05:44.740 We had Verbose here.

02:05:46.940 Verbose donated $55.

02:05:48.280 Thank you, man.

02:05:48.700 Hey, Brian, would you ever have Jensen on the show?

02:05:50.140 Love the Podman.

02:05:50.780 Keep it up.

02:05:51.400 It's about to trigger.

02:05:53.660 Yes, I would have Jensen on the show.

02:05:55.460 I think, I don't know if he's, I used to film some videos with this kid named Jensen.

02:06:00.880 We, like, did, this was back in the prank video days.

02:06:04.100 So, yeah, I'd be down to have him on.

02:06:07.520 Thank you, Alvin Sam.

02:06:08.880 Was it another TTS that came through that was trying to minimize?

02:06:15.840 Oh, wow.

02:06:17.340 Okay, Flam Life. 0.87

02:06:18.020 Hey, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.

02:06:20.280 Really appreciate it.

02:06:21.640 That means we got to do a fit check, but we'll wait until What's Her Name is back, and we'll do a little fit check. 0.87

02:06:26.340 And I guess we'll do another, like, some, this is, like, the bodybuilding part of the show.

02:06:31.360 So, you guys, we'll get the tricep.

02:06:32.820 We'll see the tricep.

02:06:33.300 Oh, we got a posing routine.

02:06:34.180 We'll do some flexing.

02:06:35.760 Dude, Flam Life, thank you so much.

02:06:37.000 Good to see you in the chat, man.

02:06:38.620 I think I emailed you back earlier today.

02:06:40.460 Appreciate it.

02:06:41.720 Thank you, Alvin Sam, too.

02:06:43.460 Really quick, why don't you pull up the Twitch?

02:06:44.820 We will come back to our conversation thread really quick.

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02:07:16.560 I kind of lost.

02:07:17.580 I'm so sorry.

02:07:18.540 That was a lot for me.

02:07:19.340 I kind of lost where I was at.

02:07:20.780 We were talking about body count, and I was talking about how a woman... 1.00

02:07:25.760 If a man can lead, then... 0.95

02:07:26.940 Oh, no, you were talking about, well, you're viewing it from the man's perspective, but

02:07:31.960 like, as a girl, when I was a virgin, it wasn't a...

02:07:36.020 Sexual experience.

02:07:36.740 Sexual experience, right. 0.61

02:07:38.120 I mean, I feel like...

02:07:40.340 I totally lost my point.

02:07:42.880 That was...

02:07:43.300 What you're saying, well, is it going to be good for her?

02:07:46.060 For the girl, yeah, basically.

02:07:48.060 But doesn't it...

02:07:48.580 You have to start somewhere.

02:07:50.640 Yeah, I guess.

02:07:51.320 Like, everyone has to have their first time.

02:07:53.140 Are you talking about if there's, like, pain?

02:07:54.940 But also...

02:07:55.580 No, not even just pain, but I feel like when...

02:07:58.360 Actually, you know what?

02:07:59.300 I'm not going to speak on anyone's, like, preferences, but I feel like men are...

02:08:03.880 You can.

02:08:04.500 You can.

02:08:05.700 Well, I don't want to assume, but...

02:08:08.500 You can assume.

02:08:09.480 I actually think that some men...

02:08:10.940 Assume.

02:08:11.660 You can assume.

02:08:12.260 No, I'm assuming.

02:08:12.560 Okay, I think some men actually do like when women are, like, are almost, like, not, like,

02:08:20.300 not, like, into it, or, like, they only care about how they feel, and I feel like it almost

02:08:25.680 kind of, like...

02:08:27.320 Like, because if they, like...

02:08:28.220 I don't know how to explain it.

02:08:29.100 Okay, and now I'm losing my kind of thought.

02:08:30.940 Wait, you...

02:08:31.540 I have too much going on.

02:08:32.240 They're in, like, a receiving mode?

02:08:33.380 Let me try to...

02:08:33.940 A receiving mode, maybe?

02:08:35.100 You think men are into it when women, what? 0.93

02:08:38.620 Like, almost, like, don't know what's going on sometimes.

02:08:43.040 Wait, straight into the mic, please.

02:08:44.180 Oh, yeah.

02:08:44.200 Don't know what's going on.

02:08:45.140 Yeah, I feel like sometimes men are, like, into, like, just, like, oh, like...

02:08:50.300 I guess this is what we're going to do.

02:08:51.860 Like, you know, they want just, like, a girl who's going to, like, go with whatever, or...

02:08:56.080 So, I guess, yeah, I agree with you that if a man can lead, it might be good for him,

02:08:59.780 but sometimes, like, it could be good.

02:09:01.680 Like a dominant?

02:09:02.820 Dominant man?

02:09:03.500 Dominant, submissive, or...

02:09:04.260 Submissive woman?

02:09:05.400 Okay.

02:09:05.860 Yeah, I think that's kind of what I'm getting at.

02:09:07.780 I got kind of sidetracked.

02:09:09.200 I'm, like, word vomiting a little bit.

02:09:10.740 I think originally you were saying that you were more concerned that if a woman was just starting

02:09:15.460 out having sex that it wouldn't be as enjoyable for her, but I think in the scenario

02:09:19.800 we're describing, hopefully, because we were talking about virginity, right?

02:09:22.900 Hopefully it's with somebody she loves and has been with, which I think would inherently

02:09:28.680 make it a good experience, even if it's not the greatest sex. 0.62

02:09:32.900 In a random situation where, let's say you're a virgin and you're losing it to a complete

02:09:38.060 total stranger, like a random hookup, like, that's more concerning.

02:09:41.500 I can see why that would not be good.

02:09:42.600 That would be horrible.

02:09:43.220 Yeah, that sounds terrible.

02:09:43.860 What would be horrible?

02:09:45.060 Like, losing your virginity to someone that is, like, a random hookup?

02:09:50.320 Don't you think that it's kind of been normalized now, though, that for people to lose it young,

02:09:54.980 just, like, get it over with, get it out of your system, women, sleep around, like, 1.00

02:09:58.240 get that sexual experience, which now men, when dating, I don't think men ever desire 0.94

02:10:04.640 a woman who's sexually experienced. 0.75

02:10:06.180 Because, like Brian said, like, you can learn that in marriage.

02:10:08.720 That's not true.

02:10:09.320 You're so wrong on that.

02:10:10.420 I'm sorry, girl.

02:10:11.420 No, no, no, I think there's a barrier.

02:10:12.360 It's true.

02:10:13.060 It's true.

02:10:13.560 There's a barrier.

02:10:14.240 It's true.

02:10:14.880 Can I say something?

02:10:16.240 Nick, help me, Nick.

02:10:16.960 Can I say something?

02:10:17.840 Hold on, Nick, does Nick agree?

02:10:19.240 Yeah.

02:10:19.640 Yep.

02:10:19.840 Okay, but also, like, it depends on the man.

02:10:22.200 I'm sorry.

02:10:22.760 Like, some men want an experience, some men want experience.

02:10:26.380 Like, you can't say that.

02:10:27.240 That's cap.

02:10:27.880 That's cap.

02:10:28.320 No, I didn't know.

02:10:29.460 Can you ask any man?

02:10:30.360 Hold on, go ahead, go ahead.

02:10:30.980 I think most men seek sexually experienced women for hookups, and they seek non-sexually 0.98

02:10:39.880 experienced women for relationships.

02:10:41.800 Erroneous.

02:10:42.920 Erroneous.

02:10:43.520 See, I don't think they care for hookups. 1.00

02:10:45.380 For hookups, they'll hook up with anybody, whether you're experienced or not.

02:10:47.840 But for marriage, they won't.

02:10:48.960 If they're doing it once, and then they're not talking to her again, they might as well

02:10:52.060 have an experienced woman.

02:10:54.180 Maybe in your world.

02:10:55.640 I think you're sort of on to something.

02:10:58.220 I would say that when it, for one-night stands, a guy is, hold that thought.

02:11:06.300 Actually, oh, I'll have to trigger it again.

02:11:08.760 Okay, okay.

02:11:09.640 So, a man is, for a one-night stand or a casual hookup, he's more willing to be with a woman

02:11:17.460 who is, say, more sexually experienced.

02:11:20.600 But I think even in, at least for me, I think a lot of other guys here, even for a one-night

02:11:27.720 stand, if given the option, a guy would much prefer going with a girl who's had, like, slept

02:11:34.980 with one other guy versus a girl who slept with 50.

02:11:37.240 Absolutely.

02:11:37.900 Even for a one-night stand, give me a virgin. 1.00

02:11:40.520 Fuck it. 1.00

02:11:41.040 Why not? 1.00

02:11:41.320 Yeah, but that's, like, a lot of, I feel like age matters in this point.

02:11:43.980 A lot of older, more mature men don't want, like, women with a high body count.

02:11:49.080 But, say, younger men, like, they don't really care.

02:11:51.220 Yeah.

02:11:51.580 Well, if a guy, but, okay, I think the, they, I think for long-term relationships, excuse

02:11:58.580 me, for long-term relationships, they do care.

02:12:01.760 But, like, if they're just trying to have a hookup, it's not so much part of the calculus.

02:12:07.360 But at a younger age now, like, hookups lead to long-term relationships.

02:12:10.640 See, but isn't that such a backwards dating system? 0.98

02:12:14.100 Like, why are we allowing hookups to be the basis of the beginning of a relationship?

02:12:18.440 Go ahead.

02:12:19.580 Technically, in the brain, there's three, like, brain systems involved with a relationship.

02:12:26.580 And it's connection, it's desire, and it's romantic love.

02:12:31.740 And it can come in any order, and you can still be in love and have a successful relationship.

02:12:37.220 But I do understand what you're saying.

02:12:38.300 Yeah, well, I, I think that, like, most, I would say a lot of relationships, it's not

02:12:46.780 like, let's date for three months, not hookup, get it, and then have sex.

02:12:53.380 I think, I would say most relationships start, whether you think it's right or wrong, I would

02:12:57.880 say most relationships start, people will hookup relatively soon, continue hooking up, and

02:13:03.800 then they'll find themselves, oh, we like each other, okay, we're in a relationship.

02:13:07.380 Now, does that, is that, you know, could that be, excuse me, I'm getting tongue-tied here,

02:13:12.180 does that inevitably lead to a lot of people casually hooking up and then not going anywhere,

02:13:17.840 and then they're ramping up their body count?

02:13:19.360 Yes.

02:13:19.600 Is it ideal?

02:13:22.740 Probably, probably not, but is that kind of the meta?

02:13:25.600 I would say, yeah, that's how most relationships, I think most relationships start.

02:13:29.460 It's people just, they'll hook up, continue hooking up, oh, we like each other, boyfriend,

02:13:34.040 girlfriend, blah, blah, blah.

02:13:35.120 Or it's just a perpetual situation.

02:13:36.720 Right, but then how many people are you going to hook up with until you find the one that

02:13:38.880 you're going to date?

02:13:39.480 That's a good point.

02:13:39.780 Because then you're just continuing to feed into hookup culture, and then you're continuing 0.81

02:13:42.840 to make your body count higher, and then continuing to play into men's desires. 0.99

02:13:47.820 I totally agree with you.

02:13:48.780 I just am saying that it is possible for a couple that has sexual experiences with each

02:13:56.940 other to fall in love later.

02:13:58.420 That is a possibility.

02:13:59.140 I agree.

02:13:59.780 Sure.

02:14:00.000 And actually, I would say most of my long-term relationships, like I've had a five-year

02:14:03.380 relationship, two-year relationship, one-year relationship, so I'm like, you know, nine

02:14:06.920 months, six months, whatever.

02:14:07.760 All of my long-term relationships that were otherwise good relationships, we hooked up

02:14:15.800 the first, second, or third date, like pretty quickly.

02:14:20.140 Do you think the, I think what's more concerning, and I don't know if this is what you meant,

02:14:24.540 is the circumstance in which you met.

02:14:27.780 I feel like if you, first of all, are the type of person to go on many casual hookups

02:14:34.580 with another person who's the type of person to go on many casual hookups.

02:14:38.540 It's possible, obviously, but I don't know how successful it would be.

02:14:42.700 Oh, yeah.

02:14:42.940 She's a flight, right?

02:14:43.720 Oh, okay.

02:14:45.240 Rip.

02:14:45.680 I know, yeah.

02:14:46.200 She's a flight. 0.90

02:14:47.120 Yeah.

02:14:47.740 Kind of snuck out of here, didn't she?

02:14:48.980 Oh, yeah.

02:14:49.260 Turn off mic number three.

02:14:52.420 Madison, you can actually scoot over a little bit if you'd like.

02:14:57.760 We're just going to get readjusted here.

02:14:59.460 Who was, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you there.

02:15:01.680 No, you're fine.

02:15:02.060 Don't worry.

02:15:02.760 I was just saying that I think what's more concerning is the circumstance in which they

02:15:07.680 met, not necessarily that it was first a hookup.

02:15:10.060 Does that make sense?

02:15:11.900 So, like, if they were to meet on, like, Instagram or meeting at a bar, meeting in class, like,

02:15:16.620 the circumstance, how they met two, that led to the hookup?

02:15:19.400 I think that, like, let's say two people meet because it's a one-night stand, I think what's

02:15:26.640 less promising about the relationship is that it's two people who are likely to have

02:15:30.280 a one-night stand.

02:15:31.760 Yeah, I agree.

02:15:33.660 I think if it's, like, a very rare occasion, neither of you do that often, it just so happens,

02:15:39.780 then it's a pretty high chance of that being successful, because, like she said, it's out

02:15:42.780 of order.

02:15:43.540 I mean, do you want to give an example?

02:15:44.900 Just one second, we'll come to that.

02:15:50.240 We'll come to that.

02:15:54.060 She left.

02:15:55.060 Sorry, man.

02:16:07.740 So true.

02:16:08.820 What?

02:16:09.420 Me too.

02:16:10.380 I have no idea what he was saying.

02:16:11.640 Oh, okay.

02:16:14.020 Sorry, Brian, I am a budget con.

02:16:16.300 Well, hey, Valdiv, thank you for the TTS, man.

02:16:19.860 Appreciate it.

02:16:20.420 Unfortunately, yeah, she dipped out.

02:16:22.620 I didn't even know.

02:16:23.780 I thought she was just going to the bathroom, but okay. 0.92

02:16:26.080 So I think you were about to say something.

02:16:30.660 Well, you just have an example of a successful relationship that came out of a one-night stand,

02:16:38.940 but obviously, you don't have to share it if you don't want to.

02:16:40.440 Well, is it really a one-night stand?

02:16:42.620 Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

02:16:44.360 Sorry.

02:16:45.180 I thought you were talking about me, and I was really confused.

02:16:46.980 No, no, no, no.

02:16:48.940 Anyway, but...

02:16:50.440 Allegedly?

02:16:52.100 Allegedly.

02:16:52.720 I've never, just so it doesn't sound like I was about to say something else, I'm a virgin,

02:16:57.200 and I'm waiting.

02:16:58.620 Oh, really?

02:16:59.280 Okay.

02:16:59.700 But it's not because, I'm not waiting until marriage or anything crazy like that.

02:17:03.020 It's just I prefer to be in love first.

02:17:04.820 Sure.

02:17:05.240 But anyway, so my parents met in a one-night stand, and they've been together for 37 years

02:17:11.300 now.

02:17:11.740 My mom moved in two weeks after, so.

02:17:13.840 Oh.

02:17:14.040 And to be fair, it was, actually, I don't know if it was a rare occasion for them.

02:17:17.540 I don't want to get into it.

02:17:18.900 But I think my dad might be watching this, actually.

02:17:21.440 I'm sorry.

02:17:21.860 Yo, what's up, dad?

02:17:23.560 How you doing?

02:17:24.280 It was Wednesday, March 31st.

02:17:26.020 It was Wednesday, March 31st.

02:17:28.040 Oh, you know the story, too.

02:17:29.920 Oh, yeah.

02:17:30.140 Oh, yeah.

02:17:30.820 He sat my friends down in the morning and told everybody the story.

02:17:35.720 Yeah, it was very interesting.

02:17:36.480 What was the context of him telling the story to your friends?

02:17:40.120 If you're watching this, I love you, dad.

02:17:42.100 But he does tend to show off a little bit in front of, like, I have, we had gone back to

02:17:49.260 my hometown for my birthday, and I brought my entire friend group, and it is a lot of

02:17:53.340 guys in my friend group.

02:17:54.680 And I think he wanted to brag a little bit.

02:17:58.540 And, yeah, he started the conversation with, it was Wednesday, March 31st.

02:18:05.700 That's been stuck in our brains ever since.

02:18:08.420 Okay.

02:18:09.540 Yeah.

02:18:09.980 So, your dad met your mom.

02:18:13.520 How old were they, by the way?

02:18:15.420 They both had had a previous marriage, so I believe they were early 30s.

02:18:21.420 They were both divorced at the time.

02:18:23.680 And, yeah, they met at a bar in New York.

02:18:25.620 He went home with her.

02:18:27.100 They hooked up, and she moved in two weeks later, and it's been 37 years now, I believe.

02:18:32.100 Oh, wow.

02:18:32.440 Yeah.

02:18:32.580 Okay, congrats.

02:18:33.980 There you go.

02:18:34.820 There you have it.

02:18:35.780 Even a one-night stand can lead to a long-lasting.

02:18:40.040 Yeah, but that is definitely the exception, not the rule.

02:18:43.360 Yeah.

02:18:44.060 No, 100% people can meet and fall in love based off of one-night stands.

02:18:47.760 But I don't think that that should be the 21st century, 2023 standard.

02:18:51.080 Oh, no, absolutely not.

02:18:51.780 I agree.

02:18:52.160 It's definitely an exception.

02:18:52.880 I think we're agreeing.

02:18:53.920 Can we also say, like, most even long-term relationships don't go the distance either?

02:19:00.360 So can we also say, well, it's also, even in loving long-term relationships, it's the exception, not the rule,

02:19:07.020 that it ends up becoming a marriage that has lasted 30.

02:19:12.660 Like, I mean, you know, we can kind of say the same about relationships, too.

02:19:17.340 Out of curiosity, I feel like you would know the statistic.

02:19:20.520 When did marriages, it's a 50% divorce rate, I believe, right, at the moment?

02:19:25.500 50.

02:19:26.100 53.

02:19:26.620 52%.

02:19:27.100 53, okay.

02:19:27.820 It depends on certain demographics, but, yeah, let's, like, it's, I think, 50% of marriages end in divorce.

02:19:33.440 So let's say America, right?

02:19:34.600 Sure.

02:19:35.080 So do you know when that statistic started increasing in divorces?

02:19:41.020 Probably around, I want to say, 60s or 70s, right?

02:19:43.980 I believe, I don't know exactly when.

02:19:47.440 I want to say probably around the time of the sexual revolution with the introduction of birth control, which was in the 60s.

02:19:54.100 Yeah, okay.

02:19:54.680 That's what I figured.

02:19:55.520 Which was also the first rise of, like, modern feminism. 1.00

02:19:58.340 Yeah.

02:19:58.460 So ever since 50s, 60s to now, divorce rates have increased.

02:20:03.420 Sexual promiscuity has increased.

02:20:06.460 Hookup culture has increased.

02:20:07.760 Obviously, social media plays a role into that.

02:20:10.240 Do you actually want to take her seat?

02:20:11.980 Come to think of it.

02:20:12.520 Just watch out for that mic there, just so we get you into the frame better.

02:20:15.400 My question was, is it true that, I haven't looked at the statistics, but, is the major cause of divorce still money?

02:20:23.540 Is that, is that the major, is the major cause of divorce these days still money, like finances?

02:20:28.200 Is that the major cause?

02:20:29.540 My understanding is when it comes to divorce, one of the primary contributing factors is financial difficulties.

02:20:36.600 Yeah.

02:20:36.980 Is a pretty big factor.

02:20:38.320 I messaged Brian about, like, so there's apparently amongst millennials, especially women, it meant to, but mostly millennial women, there's a lot of financial trauma.

02:20:49.160 I don't know what happened.

02:20:50.000 I don't know if it was 2008.

02:20:51.240 I don't know if it was something that happened where their parents struggled, and now women are like, I got to earn, I got to earn, and it kind of puts the shell around them so they're not in a receiving mode. 1.00

02:21:02.700 And I'm so curious if that's one of the causes, the major ones, is money, because.

02:21:08.740 Yes.

02:21:09.340 Yes, it is, but a lot of it is financial security, like, with your partner and being able to provide for your family.

02:21:14.720 When you're talking about, like, you know, women needing to work, I think, honestly, a lot of that is more feminism with, like, you know, being a corporate woman, like, I can do it on my own.

02:21:23.760 The boss babe energy, waiting to have kids, waiting to get married, to where now even the marriage rate and our birth rate in America has decreased because women feel like that they need to provide. 1.00

02:21:33.720 Have that simulation.

02:21:34.760 Do you really feel like it's all women's fault?

02:21:36.520 Like, the second women were able to provide for themselves, they chose not to be with men. 0.52

02:21:41.080 What does that tell you about men?

02:21:43.640 I think hurt people hurt people.

02:21:44.820 I don't think it's women's fault at all, but I do think that ever since the 60s, you know, since modern feminism, the more that women have put out in society, I'm talking like corporate world.

02:21:57.500 If you look at the corporate society, for example, women now are being told to stay and work longer because the corporations are benefiting off of women working at them.

02:22:08.760 So, I mean, it's not women's fault. 0.99

02:22:11.360 I'm not blaming women, but I do think that women have been bought into this lie that they've been sold. 0.77

02:22:16.700 Do you think they're being submissive to their employment rather than to their man?

02:22:19.500 Absolutely.

02:22:20.080 Yeah.

02:22:20.880 Fascinating.

02:22:21.200 So, how would you suggest that we could possibly fix this then?

02:22:26.980 Therapy for financial trauma.

02:22:29.460 No, but I think she's... 0.99

02:22:31.520 So, are you, like, would you suggest that women work less and seek out, like, a husband to provide?

02:22:43.780 I'm just...

02:22:44.100 I mean, I'm a working...

02:22:45.180 I mean, I work right now.

02:22:47.000 I'm 23.

02:22:47.960 I'm working, you know, to be financially independent myself.

02:22:50.840 100% every woman, you know, is trying to be financially independent. 1.00

02:22:54.580 But I also think at the end of the day, like, when you're in a relationship, what is the point of being in a relationship?

02:22:59.340 Work-life balance.

02:23:00.160 Sorry, I don't want to interrupt anybody.

02:23:02.140 No, you're good.

02:23:02.520 Okay.

02:23:03.460 I'm just a little confused on your take here.

02:23:06.020 Do you think it's negative for women to be career-driven in a relationship?

02:23:11.060 It depends on the relationship, 100%.

02:23:13.120 Because I do think that there can be a relationship where...

02:23:15.680 Relationships where the woman is the breadwinner and the man is a stay-at-home dad.

02:23:19.320 Totally fine, and that works for a lot of women. 1.00

02:23:21.280 But I also think that in society, women are being told to work more in the corporate world, 0.54

02:23:27.680 which is being more detrimental to even their mental health.

02:23:30.560 I mean, we've never seen this many women on antidepressants. 0.98

02:23:33.860 We've never seen this many women on anxiety medications.

02:23:36.860 Birth control has effects on that.

02:23:38.240 And I think it's more of women aren't focused, have skewed priorities. 1.00

02:23:43.420 They don't know work-life.

02:23:44.240 I mean, what's the mental health thing?

02:23:45.660 I mean, we haven't seen this many people in general, men or women, on antidepressants.

02:23:49.160 And I think that's like a big pharma thing. 0.99

02:23:51.360 I mean, we're being sold this crap. 0.98

02:23:54.080 Right, so do you think we should reject it? 1.00

02:23:56.440 I think 100%.

02:23:57.560 Yeah, I'm not for the medicating yourself.

02:24:00.740 I think honoring work-life...

02:24:02.540 Birth control, antidepressants.

02:24:03.600 Who's on birth control? 0.98

02:24:04.560 I used to be.

02:24:05.320 Who's on birth control? 0.98

02:24:05.860 Anybody currently on birth control?

02:24:07.180 Anybody?

02:24:07.720 Okay, just you.

02:24:08.400 All right, okay.

02:24:09.040 I got one.

02:24:10.040 I mean, it got rid of my acne.

02:24:12.200 It has helped me a lot, actually.

02:24:13.860 It can have some positive things. 0.99

02:24:17.020 Yeah, big boobs. 1.00

02:24:17.940 I do think... 0.96

02:24:19.060 I didn't have them now.

02:24:20.340 Sorry.

02:24:21.180 I'm trying really hard not to interrupt anyone.

02:24:22.820 No, go ahead, go ahead.

02:24:23.360 I do think that mental illness in a lot of cases, obviously not all, is now more prevalent

02:24:29.880 not only because of science, but because it's kind of like a cop-out, to be honest with you.

02:24:34.380 I agree.

02:24:35.160 It's overdiagnosed.

02:24:35.880 I think a lot of people almost have a desire to be diagnosed with something.

02:24:41.340 Maybe if it's not as an excuse, as a form of uniqueness or...

02:24:44.800 Oh, definitely true.

02:24:45.660 100%.

02:24:46.220 I feel like even sometimes people face it.

02:24:47.940 Yeah, and people definitely...

02:24:49.260 I completely agree with this.

02:24:50.900 This is a big thing in our industry, is talking about the average person has such a victim

02:24:55.840 mentality, myself included, before I got into what I'm doing, for sure.

02:25:00.200 You used to...

02:25:01.620 Oh, yeah.

02:25:02.060 How so?

02:25:03.600 You never want to be at fault for anything.

02:25:07.380 Like taking accountability.

02:25:08.300 Yeah, like, and this is just a small example, because it's like what I do for a living, but

02:25:12.540 like before I started lifting, I thought like, do you guys know what Chloe Ting is?

02:25:17.400 Yes.

02:25:17.980 Yeah.

02:25:18.340 Do you know what Chloe Ting workouts are?

02:25:19.880 So background information, scientifically does not work at all.

02:25:24.540 It's the easy route that most women take, especially in quarantine, and some of it is lack of knowledge. 1.00

02:25:29.700 But I feel like you kind of blame like, oh, well, I just can't gain weight, or I can't

02:25:34.840 lose weight.

02:25:35.540 And that's only the case a very small percentage of the time that you genuinely cannot.

02:25:40.560 And I said that my entire life, because I was 85 pounds.

02:25:42.760 And then I researched weightlifting and nutrition, and guess what?

02:25:48.220 35 pounds first year, when you just start actually actively working.

02:25:52.880 That's awesome.

02:25:54.060 And just like informing yourself on the right ways to do it.

02:25:56.760 Yeah, for sure.

02:25:57.480 It's just like...

02:25:58.040 A round of applause.

02:25:59.080 Okay.

02:26:00.040 Good for you.

02:26:00.840 Good for you.

02:26:01.220 That's based.

02:26:04.040 Oh, did you have more?

02:26:05.080 I mean, I'm losing my train of thought.

02:26:07.920 I think that...

02:26:08.420 Sorry.

02:26:08.920 No, go ahead and go.

02:26:09.420 I think that, back to the mental illness route, people want to make excuses for themselves

02:26:13.780 not to work hard.

02:26:15.340 Wait, Kojak in the chat says, spaghetti arms, I lift.

02:26:18.760 I think he's calling you out.

02:26:20.000 I am still very skinny.

02:26:22.020 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:26:22.480 Let's see the tries.

02:26:23.240 Come on.

02:26:23.640 Come on.

02:26:23.980 She's only been working out for a year and a half.

02:26:27.360 Come on, Kojak. 0.85

02:26:28.200 Yeah, I've also only been lifting for a little bit.

02:26:29.820 Yeah.

02:26:30.480 And I gained 35 pounds in the one year.

02:26:32.660 Yeah, that's a lot of progress, if you ask me.

02:26:34.800 I was really teeny tiny before.

02:26:36.700 It was bad.

02:26:37.420 But yeah.

02:26:38.040 Could it be me?

02:26:39.420 Word.

02:26:40.960 I don't know where we were going.

02:26:42.260 We were talking about the victim mentality.

02:26:45.060 Yeah, that's pretty bad.

02:26:46.480 There's definitely a lot of points I do want to circle back on, because we were talking

02:26:49.720 about body count.

02:26:50.440 We didn't really totally wrap up on that.

02:26:52.900 We also got a fit check here from Mr. Flan Life.

02:26:55.120 So let's all do a fit check.

02:26:56.420 We'll do a little stand-up.

02:26:57.520 You know, show us the fit.

02:26:58.480 Just stand.

02:26:59.180 No spinning.

02:27:00.040 You can spin if you want.

02:27:01.060 I can't.

02:27:01.280 I don't want to.

02:27:01.780 I can't.

02:27:02.120 Oh, because the boot.

02:27:03.040 Yeah, that's fine.

02:27:04.900 Tell us the brands of your boot, though.

02:27:06.880 Unfortunately, she has a... 1.00

02:27:08.040 You know, you hurt yourself, correct?

02:27:09.700 Oh, okay.

02:27:10.600 I guess you could... 1.00

02:27:11.420 Oh, damn. 0.99

02:27:12.820 Nice. 0.99

02:27:13.240 That's a solid boot you got going on.

02:27:15.720 Does anybody have like one of those ankle monitors you want to show?

02:27:20.380 Oh, the B-Y. 1.00

02:27:21.980 Do you have one?

02:27:23.580 An ankle monitor?

02:27:24.360 An ankle monitor?

02:27:25.040 Why are you asking me specifically?

02:27:26.020 I don't know.

02:27:26.740 Do I look like I would have an ankle monitor?

02:27:28.520 I don't know.

02:27:28.880 Maybe.

02:27:29.640 I'm coming for you.

02:27:30.700 No, no, no, no.

02:27:32.120 So, okay.

02:27:32.940 This is the fit.

02:27:34.160 Are we...

02:27:34.680 Can we get the most muscular?

02:27:36.000 Do we...

02:27:36.760 I don't need...

02:27:37.640 I still don't understand.

02:27:38.460 Double by.

02:27:38.960 How about double by?

02:27:40.800 Another double by?

02:27:41.820 Another double by.

02:27:44.000 Another double by.

02:27:45.000 Let's pull up.

02:27:45.840 Oh, there's the abs.

02:27:46.940 Flock.

02:27:47.560 Myron.

02:27:47.780 Oh, what?

02:27:48.640 Ziz? 0.67

02:27:49.180 Let's see these.

02:27:50.320 Can we get the Ziz? 0.97

02:27:51.400 Wait, hold on.

02:27:52.480 Ziz? 0.67

02:27:53.940 Boom.

02:27:54.460 Done.

02:27:55.240 What about you?

02:27:56.000 Ziz? 0.67

02:27:56.380 A little Ziz? 0.90

02:27:57.620 Oh, I think they want to spin if you guys want to.

02:28:01.500 There's nothing.

02:28:02.140 I'm not spinning.

02:28:03.060 I'm just going to look at it.

02:28:04.540 All right.

02:28:05.540 There you go, Flan Life.

02:28:06.500 Appreciate it.

02:28:06.960 Thank you for that.

02:28:07.720 Okay.

02:28:08.040 Let me get a couple chats, then we'll come back to our conversation.

02:28:10.580 We have Tommy...

02:28:12.920 Oh, wait.

02:28:13.200 Did I...

02:28:13.460 I think I read this one.

02:28:14.960 You did.

02:28:15.520 Yeah, I did.

02:28:15.920 Ladies, by consensus, who at the table do you think would make the best wife for Brian 0.99

02:28:20.760 and what?

02:28:21.120 Okay.

02:28:21.740 Brian, do you agree?

02:28:22.780 I vote Carly. 0.99

02:28:24.100 She has a boyfriend.

02:28:25.200 The one with glasses.

02:28:28.160 I think he's just saying that because you both look a little nerdy. 0.51

02:28:31.560 Wow.

02:28:31.840 Wow.

02:28:33.420 It's not a bad thing.

02:28:34.460 It's not a bad thing.

02:28:35.660 It's not a bad thing.

02:28:36.340 I am a little nerdy.

02:28:37.960 Checks out.

02:28:38.720 Checks out.

02:28:39.400 But consensus at the table?

02:28:44.100 Out of curiosity, how old are you?

02:28:46.240 34.

02:28:46.860 Yeah, no.

02:28:48.100 I don't think 19 and 34 is a...

02:28:51.980 Ryan dates 18 and up. 1.00

02:28:53.720 Whoa, what the fuck? 1.00

02:28:55.000 Ryan said he dates 18 and up. 1.00

02:28:56.740 Really?

02:28:57.260 Well, she's got a boyfriend, okay?

02:28:58.360 So let's not step on any toes.

02:28:59.360 I've always felt like you guys have cute chemistry.

02:29:03.020 Why does everyone think that?

02:29:05.000 I have a boyfriend.

02:29:06.200 Strictly business.

02:29:06.820 Strictly business.

02:29:08.020 Yeah, this is strictly business.

02:29:09.580 I mean, Maddie, we work together.

02:29:10.600 Yeah.

02:29:10.880 She has a boyfriend.

02:29:11.840 I don't step on toes.

02:29:13.100 Strictly business.

02:29:13.920 People when platonic relationships exist.

02:29:15.900 Me and Frankie are home.

02:29:17.540 I have guy friends, too.

02:29:19.080 I'm just saying.

02:29:20.500 But, well, I mean, like, in terms...

02:29:22.720 I mean, that's a whole other conversation, like, age gap dating.

02:29:25.180 But, I mean, actually, most of the women I date are actually around my age.

02:29:28.640 Recently, I've been...

02:29:29.860 Like, some of the more recent women in, say, the past two or three years I've dated have

02:29:33.820 actually been older than me.

02:29:35.700 So...

02:29:36.020 Ooh.

02:29:36.580 Love that.

02:29:37.260 But, generally speaking, I date women around my age.

02:29:39.740 But, like, I'll date anywhere from 18 to 45.

02:29:42.880 Why not?

02:29:44.200 That's my negotiating range.

02:29:47.520 Do you not find that, like, just out of curiosity...

02:29:50.320 Sure.

02:29:50.880 Do you not find that, not even just a maturity gap between you and an 18-year-old, but a

02:29:55.080 relatability gap?

02:29:56.460 Well, and to be clear, like, of most of the women I've recently dated, they're, like,

02:30:04.440 late 20s, early 30s.

02:30:06.420 But, like, I'm not... 0.99

02:30:07.680 Like, if some fucking babe who's 21, I'm not gonna, like, be like, ha-ha, no. 0.99

02:30:14.800 I'm not gonna be like... 0.99

02:30:16.240 To be honest...

02:30:16.740 Oh, you're too...

02:30:17.380 No.

02:30:17.740 Sorry.

02:30:18.120 I think that 21 and 18 is also very different.

02:30:21.540 Sure.

02:30:22.040 Because 18 is, like, fresh out of high school.

02:30:24.620 Very true.

02:30:25.080 Like, that's a kid.

02:30:25.340 So different.

02:30:25.860 And then 21 is...

02:30:26.740 Well, 18, you are an adult.

02:30:29.300 Legally, yeah.

02:30:29.900 But it's not like I'm trolling at college parties trying to find an 18-year-old.

02:30:32.780 Oh, God, no, no, no, no.

02:30:33.520 I'm not saying they have any malicious attacks.

02:30:34.020 There's also, like, 18-year-olds that are, like, way more mature than you think they would

02:30:37.400 be.

02:30:37.660 Because you grow up differently.

02:30:38.800 And let me...

02:30:39.420 That actually...

02:30:40.200 Like, I'm 18...

02:30:41.260 Or, I'm 18 and my boyfriend's 22.

02:30:43.160 Yeah.

02:30:43.540 But that's fair.

02:30:44.000 I think that's...

02:30:44.860 But, yeah, that's more...

02:30:45.720 That's, like, very acceptable.

02:30:47.660 Well, me personally, though, I don't have issues with age gaps.

02:30:50.500 If both people are adults, I don't have an issue with it.

02:30:53.060 Yeah.

02:30:55.860 That's a really good point.

02:30:57.020 As someone who's dated or, like, who's gone on dates or has had relationships with women

02:31:05.400 my age, older than me, around my age, there are some very, very immature women who are 1.00

02:31:11.480 35.

02:31:12.640 There are some women who are very toxic who are 35. 0.97

02:31:15.940 There are some women who are 21 that are very pleasant and actually quite mature.

02:31:22.020 And the other thing when it comes to dating young...

02:31:24.700 Actually, we should react to a tape video because he's going to be able to articulate this much

02:31:27.720 better than me.

02:31:28.420 But someone who's younger has less relationship baggage.

02:31:32.540 It's more likely to have less relationship baggage, lower body count.

02:31:35.560 And also, like, when it comes to physical attractiveness, what men and women find physically

02:31:42.040 attractive is fairly different.

02:31:43.940 So, and they've done studies on this.

02:31:46.440 Like, it's not just, like, a fringe group of men that find, like, 21-year-old women really

02:31:51.060 attractive.

02:31:51.960 It's, like, across the board.

02:31:53.700 If you just...

02:31:54.500 If you ask most men...

02:31:55.840 And if they're going to be honest with you, I mean, if there's something to be said about

02:31:59.220 certain people prefer hearing comforting lies over uncomfortable truths.

02:32:05.340 The fact of the matter is, like, if you ask most men, they would say when it comes to purely

02:32:09.500 physical attractiveness, not talking about relatability or things in common, women between

02:32:15.680 the age of, like, I think 21 to 25 is when most men will agree that's, like, the peak

02:32:20.960 of...

02:32:21.620 The peak age group of women that they find the most physically attractive.

02:32:26.800 I agree with you.

02:32:27.160 Strictly on that metric.

02:32:28.100 And, look, as we age, you know, we maybe gain a bit of weight.

02:32:32.600 Some people can get physically fitter, but, you know, you start going under, you know, wrinkly

02:32:40.440 skin, you become less physically attractive as you get older.

02:32:44.460 So, and they have done studies on this, though.

02:32:47.040 Women typically, like, as women age, they tend to find men, like, one or two years older 0.93

02:32:53.240 than them, like, the most attractive.

02:32:55.640 And then, but for men, it's, like, pretty much stagnant, like, 20, 21, 21, like, even

02:33:02.640 into men being 40, 50, like, that's the most physically attractive age.

02:33:06.960 I was 21, and I dated a 45-year-old.

02:33:09.860 Cool.

02:33:10.520 But, but what I found was, like you said, it, I think that I was thinking, oh, my gosh,

02:33:18.380 relationship, marriage.

02:33:19.480 I was thinking that at 21.

02:33:20.980 I was thinking that.

02:33:22.080 But I was a vacation for him, apparently.

02:33:24.020 And it wasn't, like, a sex work thing.

02:33:26.200 It was, I didn't realize that he had gotten out of a big relationship.

02:33:29.980 He, I didn't know about it.

02:33:31.280 I was of his vacation.

02:33:32.480 So, I'm like, that could be something.

02:33:35.660 And I'm like, oh, okay, I get it now.

02:33:38.020 When Matt and I started dating, I was 22, and he was 34.

02:33:42.200 And I was actually coming on to him really strong.

02:33:45.420 You were, oh, you were, okay.

02:33:47.300 Yeah.

02:33:47.720 You were 22.

02:33:48.780 He was 34.

02:33:50.140 Yeah.

02:33:51.300 Nothing wrong with that.

02:33:52.120 But you were the one really pursuing him.

02:33:53.840 Yeah.

02:33:54.240 I was, like, really into it.

02:33:55.860 Yeah.

02:33:56.000 And at first, he was like, oh, is she a little too young?

02:33:57.940 But then, yeah, he got to know me and realized, oh, for 22, she's actually mature.

02:34:02.580 And, yeah.

02:34:03.200 Yeah.

02:34:03.460 And it seemed kind of like it was sort of a similar thing, because he had just been seeing

02:34:07.820 someone who was about his age, and she was, like, as far as he said, she was, like, kind

02:34:14.680 of a downer and things like that.

02:34:16.560 Yeah, yeah.

02:34:16.940 That's the same thing.

02:34:17.060 I was, like, refreshing.

02:34:18.740 That's the same thing.

02:34:19.760 So, I think, like, age gaps.

02:34:21.000 Yeah, totally.

02:34:21.640 It could be hit or miss.

02:34:22.680 Yeah, yeah.

02:34:23.380 For sure, for sure.

02:34:23.700 But statistically, people marry and date within three years of their age.

02:34:28.120 Sure.

02:34:28.520 I mean, that's just.

02:34:29.200 Oh, yeah.

02:34:29.840 Interesting.

02:34:30.160 But also, I mean, I also, I read this one.

02:34:32.700 It kind of grossed me out, this one study, that they, like, they connected.

02:34:36.000 So, they showed pictures of women of different ages to different men.

02:34:39.240 They connected their brains to it.

02:34:40.800 And their brains reacted most to women who were, like, 16.

02:34:45.100 Oh.

02:34:45.960 Yikes.

02:34:46.800 I haven't heard of that study.

02:34:48.480 I don't know about that study.

02:34:51.200 I couldn't quote it, and, I mean, maybe I'll look it up.

02:34:53.260 I think, like, honestly, when I was, like, 16, I think my dad told me about it.

02:34:57.260 So, it was, like, deep in my brain.

02:34:58.880 I don't know.

02:34:59.180 I just thought of it.

02:35:00.200 I just thought of it.

02:35:00.380 I've never heard of that, and I've been.

02:35:02.020 Yeah.

02:35:02.180 Never have.

02:35:02.920 But, I don't know.

02:35:04.880 Like, I'm trying to think where I was going with this.

02:35:09.260 Yeah.

02:35:09.740 Well, I mean, just a point of clarification.

02:35:11.500 Like, as I mentioned, like, would I date someone who's 19, 20, 21?

02:35:16.180 I would. 0.99

02:35:16.840 But I'm not, like, hanging out at fucking college parties trying to meet. 0.98

02:35:20.480 Yeah. 0.97

02:35:21.080 Like, I don't go to bars.

02:35:22.220 I don't go to clubs.

02:35:23.020 Like, I'm not really. 0.99

02:35:23.520 But, if some fucking batty 21-year-old DMs me, I'm not going to say. 1.00

02:35:28.820 Yeah. 0.99

02:35:29.080 I'm not going to be, like, sorry.

02:35:31.640 No.

02:35:32.240 Like, I'm.

02:35:33.640 Yeah, it's so.

02:35:34.700 I'm not interested.

02:35:35.320 I'm a man.

02:35:35.980 God.

02:35:37.020 Yeah.

02:35:37.420 This is a purely personal standpoint, but I feel that if a man who, I think my cutoff 0.59

02:35:47.240 is probably, like, 25, 26, which is still pretty.

02:35:50.620 It's a pretty large age gap for 19.

02:35:53.000 But if a man who's 25 or 26 years old, knowing my age, reaches out to me, that raises some

02:36:00.080 concern for me.

02:36:00.980 And I would like to consider myself mature for my age.

02:36:04.160 I don't want to blatantly say that, because I don't know.

02:36:07.440 But, like, even with the, oh, like, well, she's the same maturity level, I would still

02:36:12.140 view it as kind of concerning, just life experience-wise, almost.

02:36:17.020 Like, they're advertising just that.

02:36:18.440 It's kind of like in those adult videos, they go, 19-year-old, 18, just turned 18.

02:36:22.660 Barely, barely 18.

02:36:24.500 I don't know.

02:36:25.020 I know what you mean.

02:36:25.800 I don't think they're going out of their way.

02:36:27.960 They shouldn't be advertising that solely.

02:36:29.940 I don't think they're going out of their way for that one sole reason.

02:36:33.560 But sometimes it can imply, and obviously this has to do with their personal history,

02:36:38.820 that they, as an older man, can't, like, maybe girls their age know better, almost.

02:36:44.540 Does that make sense?

02:36:45.280 Funky pal.

02:36:45.780 No, not really.

02:36:46.520 Not really.

02:36:47.140 I think it's pretty simple.

02:36:50.160 Like, younger women are better looking, lower body count, less baggage, and this is a biological 1.00

02:36:56.300 component to it.

02:36:57.840 They're a better bet for fertility. 1.00

02:36:59.640 So, like, for example, I mean, obviously we're using, like,

02:37:02.620 Biology.

02:37:03.180 You know, women who are 25 are still, you know, even into their late 20s are still very fertile.

02:37:09.640 However, like, say you're a guy who's in his late 30s and you want to have kids.

02:37:16.060 Once you hit 35 as a woman, you can still have kids, but you're starting to get into high-risk

02:37:21.100 pregnancy territory.

02:37:22.500 So, as a guy, Nick, hello?

02:37:28.120 As a guy, let's say you want to have kids, you want to have a family, and you want to,

02:37:33.560 maybe you want to have a lot of kids.

02:37:35.380 A woman, say you're 39, dating a woman your age is not the best bet when it comes to fertility. 0.99

02:37:42.100 If you're 39 and you're going to date a 38-year-old, okay, by the time you guys get married,

02:37:46.420 maybe you're both 42, then she's 40.

02:37:49.640 Maybe you can, you're lucky to have one kid.

02:37:53.200 Like, a guy who's in his late 30s is probably going to want to try to date, like, a woman who's 29, 28.

02:37:58.760 How do guys feel about sexual surrogacy?

02:38:01.960 Sexual surrogacy?

02:38:03.240 Yeah, like, if the woman can't, then are they like, you know what, like, I want a family with you, 1.00

02:38:09.140 but let's find a woman that, like, how do they feel about that? 1.00

02:38:12.860 Well, I think it's very simple.

02:38:13.740 If he wants to have kids, then they just find...

02:38:15.560 Then it's probably just, it's probably best for you, too, to not get involved with him,

02:38:19.200 because he, the prospects of long-term relationship with someone who wants kids is...

02:38:24.180 Yes.

02:38:25.540 Yeah.

02:38:25.880 Thank you.

02:38:27.200 ...is being quiet and modest about her fitness. 0.93

02:38:30.160 She's an ASM certified trainer, completed an eight-day fast, no food, with me that reset her hormones,

02:38:37.440 and prepped for BB competition.

02:38:38.880 Oh, there you go.

02:38:39.660 Check the whatever egg, I sent transformations there.

02:38:42.200 Heck, yeah.

02:38:43.240 Nice.

02:38:43.880 Can I ask what division you competed in?

02:38:45.140 Thank you, Matt.

02:38:45.160 Appreciate it.

02:38:45.760 I didn't end up competing, because I'm not going to trauma dump Brian, don't worry,

02:38:50.000 but I just had a lot of family things go on, and I, like, stopped my prep, like, right when I was about to,

02:38:55.180 but I was going to do NPC.

02:38:56.440 How did you fast for NPCs?

02:38:57.080 Yeah, so I actually want to start it again.

02:38:58.740 NPCs?

02:38:59.020 I actually lost a lot of weight.

02:39:00.840 I gained, like, a lot of weight during COVID.

02:39:02.700 Was it bikini?

02:39:03.860 Yeah.

02:39:04.580 Wait.

02:39:04.740 It was bikini, yeah, that I was prepping for, yeah.

02:39:06.960 That's awesome.

02:39:07.580 Yeah, yeah.

02:39:08.000 I'm curious about the eight-day fast that reset your hormones.

02:39:10.500 Me, too.

02:39:11.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:39:11.820 How did it do that?

02:39:13.860 I mean, basically, just whenever you fast, it, I mean, your body is, like, completely resetting itself.

02:39:19.480 What do you eat?

02:39:19.880 So, yeah.

02:39:20.720 No, you don't.

02:39:21.780 Water.

02:39:22.300 Water?

02:39:22.780 Mineral water, right?

02:39:24.080 Mineral water, yeah, exactly.

02:39:25.180 So, you don't, like, deplete your nutrients, but, yeah.

02:39:27.860 Wow.

02:39:28.180 Yeah.

02:39:28.500 But it's great for you.

02:39:29.800 It has a lot of health.

02:39:30.460 Wow.

02:39:31.020 Yeah.

02:39:31.420 So, no calories at all for anything?

02:39:33.260 Nothing.

02:39:33.820 Yeah, just, like, salt and magnesium water.

02:39:36.880 My dad did a fast for 21 days with just water.

02:39:40.620 21?

02:39:40.900 Cool.

02:39:41.380 Wow.

02:39:42.660 Cool.

02:39:43.140 Yeah.

02:39:43.260 Did he?

02:39:43.940 I think he, his main concern was that he had an ulcer in his stomach, and I think it fixed it.

02:39:49.040 Oh, yeah.

02:39:50.040 I hadn't had a.

02:39:50.840 Let's just bring it back to the conversation we were having.

02:39:52.840 So, I mean, you were mentioning something about, you know, what does someone who's younger,

02:39:59.460 say, someone who's 21, have in common with someone who's, for example, 31?

02:40:02.880 Yeah.

02:40:03.300 But, I mean, I would argue that having things in common with someone is very low on the totem pole of what makes you attracted to somebody.

02:40:13.880 It's a pause, like, if, oh, we like the same music, but, like, how, that's not going to be the primary attraction trigger for anybody, 0.92

02:40:22.740 because I'm sure for every single girl here, you've known a guy who you have tons of shit in common with, but you would never date him.

02:40:30.940 So, this idea that commonality or having things in common is really important, like, I don't care if my girlfriend, if she likes the same music as me, cool, I guess, 0.95

02:40:43.200 but it's a very, very low priority on the totem pole to the point of being kind of so negligent.

02:40:50.120 It's so negligent.

02:40:51.040 Yeah.

02:40:51.480 Wait, negligent?

02:40:53.120 Negligible, I think.

02:40:54.000 Sorry, I think that I worded it wrong, for lack of better words.

02:40:58.720 I don't think that having things in common in general is important, but, obviously, age gaps is a super nuanced topic, like, there's a lot of opinions on it.

02:41:09.340 But, for lack of better words, relatability, I feel like, would apply to, like, a general census.

02:41:15.460 Like, me personally, I would like, this is a random general example.

02:41:20.280 I would like to date somebody who has a similar job to me.

02:41:25.100 That's a different area of life, but I feel like there's just some things that are kind of non-negotiable, like, you'd want to date someone with the same morals, you know, stuff like that.

02:41:33.500 I feel like it's more on that tier list, and, obviously, it depends for every person, but.

02:41:40.400 Well, yeah, I mean, but I could point out, for example, like, there are women who are 21, for example, that don't go to bars, don't go to clubs, they're not really drinking, they don't really party. 0.96

02:41:50.280 I don't drink, I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I don't do drugs, not interested in any of that shit. 0.97

02:41:55.660 There's plenty of women who are 30 that still go to fucking raves, and they're still out, they're fucking alcoholics, and they're drinking every single weekend, and they're clubbing and partying and hooking up. 1.00

02:42:04.300 That's not the type of girl I want. 1.00

02:42:05.660 So, I mean, you can find people across various age groups that align with you in terms of whether it's interest, whether it's relatability.

02:42:17.680 I would relate much more to a girl who's, say, 21, who doesn't go to bars, doesn't go to clubs, doesn't drink, doesn't party, doesn't do drugs, than a girl who's 31, who's closer to my age, who still fucking goes to raves, and parties, and drinks, and does drugs. 0.94

02:42:35.680 Like, so. 0.55

02:42:37.080 Mm-hmm.

02:42:37.680 I actually think you swayed my opinion on this. 1.00

02:42:40.180 Oh, shit. 0.98

02:42:40.720 I would agree with you more, but I would just, like, I think that, sorry. 0.99

02:42:44.700 No, and it's fine to think how, like.

02:42:46.520 Yeah, I know, but I just think I would definitely still, like, if I see with no context around it, a 34-year-old man and a 19-year-old girl, I'm going to be concerned right off the bat.

02:42:57.200 How does Drake.

02:42:58.420 It's at the frame of reference, too.

02:43:00.060 I mean, like, how is a 34-year-old man and a 19-year-old girl going to have, like, the same, like, you know, like, they're not even going to be into the same things.

02:43:10.140 I mean, I understand how they can get along or whatever, maybe, like, you're saying, but.

02:43:15.180 Oh, I'll put her on to some Game of Thrones. 1.00

02:43:17.000 Yeah.

02:43:17.060 I got it.

02:43:17.620 I think that's kind of, like, hot.

02:43:19.160 I mean, it's cute.

02:43:19.540 When an older guy, like, shows, I don't know.

02:43:21.220 It's cute, but I mean, like, what if, you know.

02:43:22.640 I got the shows.

02:43:23.600 I know the good shows.

02:43:24.780 Okay, well, also, you're, you know, I mean, I'm assuming, like, you know, like, you have money and whatnot, so maybe you can take care of whatever, but do you feel like, maybe, like, what if she's in a different stage of life than you?

02:43:37.700 Like, you have an established career, right, and she is, you know, just her, she's in her sophomore year of college.

02:43:44.780 Like, you don't feel like that different stage of life kind of makes a difference for you?

02:43:49.420 I suppose it depends.

02:43:50.540 Like, obviously, I know a lot of girls who are in college, like, especially, I don't know if you guys are, sorry, got a motorcycle passing by, super loud.

02:44:01.140 A lot of girls who are in college, not all of them, but, like, a fair amount of them, especially here.

02:44:05.460 This is, UCSB is pretty close to us.

02:44:07.700 UC Santa Barbara, it's a major party school.

02:44:10.020 So a lot of girls, for example, who are in college, they like to go out on the weekends, party, go to clubbing.

02:44:14.760 And that type of girl probably ain't it for me. 0.99

02:44:17.100 Like, I'm not really interested in that kind of girl, but there's plenty of girls who are in college who are probably a little more studious. 0.88

02:44:23.120 They aren't really into partying, not really into that whole thing.

02:44:27.400 But that's kind of, like, not what I was getting at.

02:44:29.820 Yeah, different stage of life.

02:44:31.100 Like, she's just getting established.

02:44:32.900 Like, what if, yeah, and maybe you're more ready because you're 34, right?

02:44:36.060 Well, let me just reiterate.

02:44:37.100 Again, I'm not at college parties trolling, like, trying to pick up chicks.

02:44:39.840 But, like, again, like, if it happened to be, like, you know, if I have, and I haven't been on dating apps in over a year,

02:44:45.980 but if I was on a dating app and, like, she, her age setting, like, we matched on a dating app, cool.

02:44:53.520 If we, she DM'd me, cool.

02:44:55.900 If through some way we met organically, cool.

02:45:00.740 But it's not like I'm, like, really, like, targeting this specific age group.

02:45:05.600 It's like, again, like, let me reiterate.

02:45:08.620 Like, most, the vast majority of the women I've dated in the past, say, most of them, I'd say, are around my age.

02:45:18.200 And actually, quite a few of them have been older than me.

02:45:21.060 You could also be at different stages of life, but, like, have commonality in, like, where, like, what you want in someone.

02:45:27.240 Like, think about the 19-year-olds that are with 50-year-old sugar daddies.

02:45:30.400 Like, shoot, they want the money.

02:45:32.560 The older men want the younger woman. 1.00

02:45:34.300 And, like, Leonardo DiCaprio and, like, his 20-years-old.

02:45:37.620 They're not going to end up together and marry each other and have babies together.

02:45:40.800 You never know.

02:45:41.780 I mean, yeah, yeah, there are those exceptions.

02:45:44.580 I agree. 0.76

02:45:45.060 How many 19-year-old girls, though, would, like, be 100-fucking-percent down to get with, like, a male celebrity who's in his 30s? 0.85

02:45:55.880 Like, wasn't it Leonardo DiCaprio? 0.84

02:45:57.240 Yo, come on. 0.99

02:45:58.040 They would be dead.

02:45:58.660 A lot of them would. 0.56

02:46:00.220 A lot.

02:46:00.900 I mean, I'm saying a lot of them.

02:46:01.500 Leonardo DiCaprio is cleaning up.

02:46:04.060 Yeah, he's got a lot of ladies. 1.00

02:46:05.980 Celebrities are, like, a different topic.

02:46:07.700 I mean, I feel like we're talking, I mean, like, I would help that this podcast is about, like, you know, like, because people who watch this, they're not all celebrities.

02:46:14.360 It's about modern dating, right?

02:46:15.600 We're not talking about people with clout.

02:46:17.500 Right, but I'm saying.

02:46:19.060 But that is modern dating.

02:46:20.180 I was going to say, I think there's plenty of women who are mature enough at a young age who are ready to get married, who are ready to have kids, who don't have a high body count. 0.99

02:46:29.860 I mean, you can be 19, 20, 21.

02:46:31.240 I know plenty of people even in college that got engaged to people that were maybe older and graduated, 28, 29.

02:46:36.700 But just because they're younger doesn't mean they're not mentally or physically ready for any of those life experiences.

02:46:42.280 I completely agree.

02:46:43.580 Let me just add one point to what she said.

02:46:46.060 I would actually argue, like, men have a little longer period of time to get their life figured out because of, like, childbirth, that sort of stuff.

02:46:56.580 So I actually think the perfect time for a girl to, like, try to lock in a long-term partner is actually when you're young.

02:47:04.220 It's not when you're in your 30s.

02:47:05.920 Like, you have your, you are at your strongest, let's say, negotiating position between the ages of, like, let's say, 18 to 25.

02:47:14.220 You can lock down, like, pretty much the best partner then.

02:47:19.640 So a lot, and what happens is a lot of women focus career, and hey, I'm, I think career is fine. 0.99

02:47:24.000 I think that's fine.

02:47:24.620 What do you mean by negotiating?

02:47:26.040 Like.

02:47:26.480 That's when you're at your, like.

02:47:28.180 You're at your prime.

02:47:29.180 You're in your prime.

02:47:29.780 When you're between the ages of 19 to 25 as a woman, you can find your most optimal partner at that point.

02:47:35.660 Because, like Brian said, if you're chasing your career and you're 26, 27, 28, then a man, as you're getting older, is not going to want to marry you as much the older that you get.

02:47:44.780 It's crazy how you guys, like, are, like, anti-sex or, like, anti-prostitution or whatever, but yet this is giving the same kind of energy.

02:47:53.100 What do you mean?

02:47:53.760 I mean, she has a certain value at this age, and she's, like, more, like, sellable to a better man.

02:47:59.920 Right?

02:48:00.820 But that's actually.

02:48:01.560 We're not selling.

02:48:02.400 We're not selling.

02:48:03.200 We're not selling.

02:48:03.280 We're not selling.

02:48:03.320 We're not selling.

02:48:03.740 It's like.

02:48:04.340 Well, that's kind of what it sounds like.

02:48:06.040 But, I mean, you're trying to pigeonhole, like, what we're saying here.

02:48:09.080 But, like, if we can look at things realistically, people have a value on the dating marketplace.

02:48:16.100 And when I say value, it's not your value as a human being.

02:48:19.140 Everybody has value.

02:48:20.900 Your life has value.

02:48:22.120 But in terms of your value on the relationship marketplace, the marriage marketplace, the sexual marketplace,

02:48:28.340 and I know you're smiling, oh, okay.

02:48:30.980 But the reality is, like, people have value on the marketplace.

02:48:37.220 Now, and this is a way to, this isn't a way to diminish people and to minimize people,

02:48:42.380 but it's just a way to articulate in an analytical sort of way, okay, how are things going to play out on the dating marketplace?

02:48:51.640 Because it is competitive.

02:48:53.460 You are competing with other women. 1.00

02:48:55.140 Men are competing with other men. 0.93

02:48:56.500 And we tend to try to match up with, you know, we try to get the best we can.

02:49:04.500 Okay.

02:49:04.660 Perhaps you object to this sort of commodification.

02:49:07.320 It's not even really a commodification.

02:49:08.920 Yeah, I mean, I, yeah, but it is.

02:49:10.320 I mean, you said it, not me.

02:49:12.060 I mean, I didn't think that.

02:49:13.260 Is this, like, you think this is, like, a gotcha?

02:49:14.520 Oh, my God, Brian, he's, it's a pretty common term.

02:49:17.100 Like.

02:49:17.240 No, I, no, I'm completely aware.

02:49:18.860 Okay, are you familiar with the sexual marketplace?

02:49:21.160 Yes, I'm completely aware of it.

02:49:22.300 So, there's the dating marketplace.

02:49:23.860 You don't have to, like, mansplain it to me.

02:49:25.100 Yes, I, yes, I'm completely aware of it.

02:49:26.800 How, it's not, I'm not mansplaining.

02:49:28.660 Which, by the way, I, I disavow your use of a rather sexist term.

02:49:32.700 Is it sexist?

02:49:33.540 I apologize.

02:49:33.920 Mansplain is, I think it is sexist.

02:49:35.660 In the same way if I were to say womansplain.

02:49:37.720 Womansplain, okay. 1.00

02:49:38.440 True.

02:49:38.800 Because you're.

02:49:39.400 Valid.

02:49:39.560 Valid, no, valid.

02:49:40.500 You're putting, you are putting, you're attaching someone's gender to, like, I just, you're trying

02:49:48.840 to diminish what I'm saying by saying mansplain.

02:49:50.640 Okay, well, I'm, I apologize because I.

02:49:52.760 Apology accepted.

02:49:53.640 Continue.

02:49:53.820 No, because I'm honestly not, like, the kind of girl who, like, I have no issues with men.

02:49:57.360 I actually, I love men.

02:49:58.120 Most of my friends are men.

02:49:59.420 I have only brothers.

02:50:00.600 Like, I have no issues with men at all.

02:50:02.640 But, yeah, mansplain, it's just a term.

02:50:04.580 It's, it's like a.

02:50:05.640 Okay, so let's continue with the conversation.

02:50:07.280 Anyways.

02:50:07.560 Anyways, yeah, so, no, I mean, the thing with the sexual marketplace that bothers me is that

02:50:12.520 I feel like it's so black and white.

02:50:14.600 And the issue with, like, red pill in general for me as someone who's, like, leaning more

02:50:18.900 towards blue pill, although I do agree with some of your points, is that it's so black 1.00

02:50:25.240 and white.

02:50:25.880 Like, it lacks nuance.

02:50:27.700 I mean, people in general, they're not getting married these days at 19 years old.

02:50:32.580 And, I mean, it's kind of the same concept of, like, when you're 19, like, do you really

02:50:37.280 want to get married with the guy? 0.87

02:50:38.800 Like, I, my first, my six-year relationship that I was talking about, I was 17 when we

02:50:44.520 got together.

02:50:44.920 We could have gotten married, but I chose not to because I felt like I, I kind of outgrew

02:50:50.480 him.

02:50:50.880 And if we had gotten married at 18, for example, we probably would have ended up divorced.

02:50:56.840 I'm not saying, like, get married immediately at 18.

02:50:59.380 But what I am saying is, like, I would say that you are in your peak years between, say,

02:51:05.060 18 to 25.

02:51:07.040 Do you think it'd be easier for, say, like, a 48-year-old woman to find someone on the

02:51:11.320 dating marketplace than a 19-year-old woman? 0.90

02:51:13.920 No.

02:51:14.180 Well, that's an extreme.

02:51:14.900 I think that's what we're saying.

02:51:15.480 Well, that's extreme.

02:51:16.600 I mean, I'm just saying that, like, I think that everybody, men and women, should, like,

02:51:20.420 get some experience before they jump into getting married.

02:51:23.340 No one's saying that they shouldn't, I don't think.

02:51:25.380 Yeah.

02:51:25.940 I think that he's trying to say that, and sorry, not to put words in your mouth, but

02:51:29.980 I think it's more that within your 20s, within your 20s, I feel like that's realistically

02:51:36.620 a good time.

02:51:37.620 Because, like, when I'm, like, you're the most valuable, but, like, to who?

02:51:41.080 To a partner.

02:51:42.100 A long-term relationship.

02:51:43.060 If you get, sorry, if you get married later in life, even if it's just somebody who is also

02:51:49.820 getting married on later in life, it's, I want to say less likely to work, if it was

02:51:57.500 more likely to work out, it would be due to lack of other options for both parties.

02:52:02.300 Well, like, here's a common thing you hear, for example, is, like, and, look, I'm, and

02:52:06.340 I think I kind of touched on this.

02:52:07.920 I don't have an issue with women, like, I think it's great that the, that we can, what's, 1.00

02:52:15.580 what's the right term here, that we can, and I'm using this in the most charitable

02:52:20.400 sense, that we can exploit the genius and intellect of women to, for example, I think

02:52:25.960 it's wonderful that women are going into STEM and researching cancer, and I think we

02:52:31.040 need to, we need to put as much manpower, no pun, like, woman power, to trying to solve 1.00

02:52:38.160 some of the most challenging problems that we face in society, cancer research, you know,

02:52:42.400 tackling certain illnesses, diseases, et cetera.

02:52:47.560 I think it's wonderful to have women in the workforce.

02:52:49.380 However, what you do have is a lot of women who, throughout their 20s, focus on their career, 0.95

02:52:54.540 get into their 30s, and they're like, wow, this really isn't particularly fulfilling.

02:52:58.120 I'd really prefer, I'd really like to have a family and kids, but once you get to your

02:53:02.760 mid-30s, it does become, I'd say for, even for both men and women, but perhaps more so

02:53:07.780 for women, it becomes a bit more difficult to find a partner. 1.00

02:53:10.500 And so, and the other thing you have is, you'll also have, in addition to the career 0.99

02:53:15.300 component, you'll have women who, they'll spend their 20s just, like, fucking a bunch 1.00

02:53:19.460 of dudes, casual sex, and then they get to the finish line, or maybe not the finish line, 1.00

02:53:25.280 but they get to their 30s, oh, I want a husband, I want to have kids.

02:53:28.540 Like, nobody wants them, right? 1.00

02:53:29.360 I have a bunch of baggage from, like, fucking all these dudes. 0.99

02:53:32.380 My body count's high, maybe I picked up herpes on the way. 0.99

02:53:35.440 Okay.

02:53:35.760 It's just going to be more difficult.

02:53:36.540 Good luck.

02:53:36.900 Okay, see, so the STD thing I can actually get on, like, that's my big thing with body

02:53:41.040 count.

02:53:41.060 Well, that's, that's the, that's another thing with body count, the more sexual partners

02:53:44.140 you have, the more, the greater likelihood to get an STD.

02:53:47.080 So, you don't think that a woman loses value in areas like wisdom, career, et cetera, but

02:53:53.880 relationship-wise, right?

02:53:55.400 What, what do you mean?

02:53:56.220 Like, so, we're talking about how a woman loses value as they, um, age. 0.66

02:54:01.100 Mm-hmm.

02:54:01.440 No, I, that's a hard way.

02:54:02.620 It doesn't lose value.

02:54:03.220 It doesn't lose value.

02:54:03.900 It just becomes more difficult for them to.

02:54:06.020 It's a hard way to put it.

02:54:07.060 Let, let, let me, okay, when I'm, when I'm 50 years old, I think I will have less value

02:54:12.200 in the dating marketplace than I do now.

02:54:14.480 So, we're just exclusively speaking about the dating scene, not necessarily other walks

02:54:18.660 of life, like career.

02:54:19.560 Okay, that's, I'm just clarifying.

02:54:21.160 Yeah, no, it's not like.

02:54:21.940 Because I think that, oh.

02:54:22.960 Your value as a human.

02:54:23.880 Yeah, a lot of people have concern, yeah.

02:54:26.280 No, that, that's not what we're talking about.

02:54:27.380 No, I agree.

02:54:27.820 I think, I think biologically, obviously, it's true that as you age, you're, uh.

02:54:32.320 But, for example, here, here's another example, um, if, if I just, tomorrow, woke up 300 pounds

02:54:39.620 heavier and I was obese, my value in the dating marketplace, it would be much harder

02:54:44.760 for me to attract women, therefore, my value on the marketplace has been diminished.

02:54:49.940 I totally agree with you.

02:54:50.600 I just think the.

02:54:51.220 I'm still a human being.

02:54:52.820 Yeah, 100%.

02:54:53.820 But, I think the problem that most people have with the conversation is they're not viewing

02:54:57.320 it from, like, a completely cornered off perspective like that.

02:55:00.780 They're viewing it like, oh, well, a woman loses value in all walks of life. 0.55

02:55:04.200 Very personally, yeah.

02:55:04.600 Which isn't, isn't true, yeah.

02:55:05.920 But, we're talking about biology here.

02:55:07.040 No, not at all.

02:55:07.880 Not at all.

02:55:08.460 But, like, in terms of being attractive to the opposite sex.

02:55:12.100 Yeah, no, I completely agree with you.

02:55:12.980 Like, as you get older.

02:55:13.920 Do you feel like the state of our economy kind of contributes to that?

02:55:18.180 Well.

02:55:18.740 I mean, because.

02:55:20.180 Oh, well, I mean, certainly it's the case that for, I'd say, most people, uh, to get by

02:55:25.300 in today's day and age.

02:55:26.620 You need two incomes.

02:55:27.280 You need two incomes.

02:55:28.160 Right.

02:55:28.360 So, I mean, that we can go back in time and say, well, and again, I think it's wonderful

02:55:33.660 that we've, we can now, and again, I'm using this word in a, the most charitable sense,

02:55:38.660 we can now exploit women's brilliance and intelligence, uh, in the workforce. 1.00

02:55:43.160 However, there are certain economic ramifications to essentially doubling the labor pool.

02:55:48.520 I agree.

02:55:49.000 And in the past, you could, uh, one income could support a household.

02:55:54.980 That's really not, some people can still do it, but it's really no longer the case.

02:55:58.460 Now you're faced with both men and women.

02:56:00.300 On average.

02:56:00.520 You have to work.

02:56:01.260 Yeah.

02:56:01.740 And again, I think it's wonderful that if you're a woman and you want to focus on your 0.61

02:56:06.760 career, fantastic.

02:56:07.640 That's great.

02:56:08.020 However, there are certain economic realities when you double the labor pool.

02:56:14.520 Right.

02:56:15.160 Actually, I want to circle back to what me and you were talking about when I was like, oh,

02:56:17.960 like.

02:56:18.060 That's what I was getting at.

02:56:18.600 Yeah.

02:56:18.880 Yeah.

02:56:19.020 Yeah.

02:56:19.280 Go for it.

02:56:19.960 I'll, I'll, uh, step away.

02:56:21.320 I need to get up for a sec, but go ahead guys.

02:56:22.860 Um, so what I was going to say, I think after I said, I forget what I said at this point,

02:56:28.280 but, um, was that I feel like you're, I felt like you were kind of like blaming women

02:56:35.200 for like the lack of like children being born and like families.

02:56:37.980 And I don't think it's necessarily, it's like not women or men.

02:56:40.500 It's like the state of our economy.

02:56:41.880 I mean, even if you are with your partner, like you're, you know, you're a two person

02:56:45.920 household, you don't, it's, it's hard to have a kid.

02:56:48.880 I mean, and with, with, with women in work, I mean, a lot of states don't support, like, 0.98

02:56:55.060 you know, we're lucky to be in California.

02:56:56.740 At least I live in California where they do have like paid leave for what, like six weeks,

02:57:01.160 you know?

02:57:01.960 So I think that maybe as a, you know, I'm a, I'm central left and you're probably right.

02:57:07.680 Conservative.

02:57:08.120 Conservative.

02:57:08.240 Yeah.

02:57:08.740 I think maybe we can agree on this, that like there needs to be more policy on, on family.

02:57:13.120 Oh, absolutely.

02:57:13.740 I think there should be more policy put in place for a longer term maternity leave because

02:57:17.600 I think that would incentivize women to have children more. 1.00

02:57:20.900 And I also think it's very crucial for women to be at home with their kids for the, for

02:57:25.160 a long portion, honestly, of, of the baby's lives, because that's a huge developmental stage

02:57:30.440 to the child.

02:57:31.180 And I also think, you know, look at the childcare industry and how that plays into, you know,

02:57:35.980 women can only be at home with their kid for six weeks. 1.00

02:57:38.260 And then I need you to get back in the corporate world to continue making money.

02:57:41.420 That's horrible.

02:57:41.800 It's awful.

02:57:42.400 And I agree with you.

02:57:43.340 You know, I 100% agree with you.

02:57:45.160 So I'm, I'm, I'm Romanian, like my mom was born in Romania.

02:57:49.000 I have, most of my family is in Romania and in Romania, you get three years paid.

02:57:54.400 Three years.

02:57:54.980 Wow.

02:57:55.720 That's, that's pretty cool.

02:57:57.500 But then also, okay.

02:57:59.340 In society, is it the corporation's job to fund you being able to go home and be with your

02:58:05.000 kids?

02:58:05.560 No, no, no.

02:58:06.640 The corporations don't pay for it.

02:58:08.100 The country does.

02:58:09.200 The EU, I mean, Romania is part of the European Union.

02:58:11.140 So then it would be the taxpayer's job in America to be able to uphold the family.

02:58:15.240 See, but then I think that's up to the family to be able to raise and support their child.

02:58:19.100 Unfortunately, we don't live in that kind of economy though.

02:58:21.260 Because.

02:58:21.800 Which we should be able to. 1.00

02:58:23.040 I mean, shit. 0.99

02:58:23.540 I mean, our country spends so much money on military, on, on everything else. 1.00

02:58:26.940 And you think they could spend on families, right?

02:58:29.100 Right.

02:58:29.360 And I do.

02:58:29.740 There is child support and there is help out there federally for parents, but it also,

02:58:34.200 it shouldn't be the government and the taxpayer's number one priority.

02:58:37.440 Like it's our job to give money just because you had a kid.

02:58:40.620 So we're going to support you having a kid.

02:58:42.100 If you have a kid, I mean, it's your job to support.

02:58:44.540 And I also think that in America, we have a materialism problem where people are opulent

02:58:49.000 and spending money on things and have priorities.

02:58:52.080 They have that in Europe as well.

02:58:53.760 So.

02:58:54.060 But the thing is, is you're saying, well, you know, the government needs to help pay for

02:58:57.060 kids and support kids and, you know, parents need help.

02:59:00.680 When in reality, I just think there's a lot of people who have skewed priorities and don't

02:59:04.820 properly and wisely.

02:59:06.040 So you think materialism is the reason why people aren't having kids?

02:59:11.600 Well, part of it.

02:59:12.700 People would rather pay for like a Louis Vuitton than have a child.

02:59:15.680 I mean, come on.

02:59:17.120 No, what I'm saying is like, you said that people can't afford to have children because

02:59:21.740 of the economy.

02:59:22.820 But a lot of those people that can't afford children can afford a lot of other things

02:59:27.300 and not have their priorities.

02:59:29.540 Yeah.

02:59:30.060 Like they don't put their family above other things.

02:59:32.220 I always thought it would be so cool.

02:59:33.840 Like I actually looked up the other day, I was like, how cool would it be if like family

02:59:38.020 vacations were like really like society did things were like, hey, we're having a community

02:59:42.240 fair where taxpayers were like, I mean, I would chip in my tax dollars.

02:59:45.660 I know maybe not everybody, but I'd be like, you know what?

02:59:47.500 Like, that's cool.

02:59:48.620 Like families are going out there making memories.

02:59:50.320 Like I remember I went on a family, I went on family vacations as an adult because we

02:59:54.620 didn't get any.

02:59:55.500 And I kid you not, it was so healing seeing my family celebrating.

02:59:58.920 I was like, I needed that when I was younger.

03:00:01.560 And, and how cool would that be to like give that to somebody else?

03:00:05.120 Like when they're young, like that maybe society would value family more than like, oh, I have

03:00:10.220 to earn so much.

03:00:11.040 So I have to support my family rather than like, we got, got a little nugget from, you know,

03:00:15.440 from the block, like, you know, society in the neighborhood.

03:00:18.500 And I think, I think there needs to be, I think that what's going to happen is people

03:00:23.380 are going to get, we as a culture could get really tired of this capitalism thing.

03:00:28.160 Like not full, not in full amount.

03:00:30.140 So would you be instead pro-socialism and the government have more control?

03:00:33.740 No, I think that there needs to be some sort of balance, like, like maybe work-life balance

03:00:38.320 starting to be honored.

03:00:39.160 Like you, like you said, with the, with the maternity leave, give it longer and then give 1.00

03:00:42.180 it to men too.

03:00:43.000 Do you think Europe isn't capitalist?

03:00:46.300 It's, it's, it's, do you think Europe is like 100% socialist?

03:00:49.160 I mean, I come from a family where like my mom was raised in communism.

03:00:52.160 So I know the difference.

03:00:53.700 Which one's Finland?

03:00:54.780 Finland, I don't know their economic system, but I heard that they do.

03:00:58.340 There are some Nordic countries that are more socialist.

03:01:00.340 And I mean, a lot of people like to reference like healthcare industries, like having free

03:01:03.580 healthcare for everybody, which wouldn't be sustainable in the United States.

03:01:06.880 But I mean, okay, look at, you're talking about opportunity.

03:01:10.640 You're wanting free things from the government that comes at a cost of, you know, if the

03:01:15.300 government is going to utilize your tax dollars to then continue to pay for this lifestyle

03:01:20.160 to uphold, why can't Americans, I mean, we live in the freest country to continue to

03:01:26.120 utilize the opportunity that is given to us under our constitution to go out and make

03:01:30.580 more money.

03:01:31.020 I mean, you can start a podcast, you can have an OnlyFans, you can now make money on Instagram.

03:01:35.620 There's really no excuse for anybody to say they can't.

03:01:38.520 I mean, wouldn't you rather like our tax dollars go to like supporting families as opposed to

03:01:43.520 supporting a war overseas?

03:01:45.920 Like, it's just an example.

03:01:46.940 Oh, absolutely.

03:01:47.300 Oh, absolutely.

03:01:48.060 Absolutely.

03:01:48.560 Our money should stay in America 100%. 0.99

03:01:50.660 No, I'm not.

03:01:51.560 Personally, I am not pro OnlyFans.

03:01:53.220 But the point that I'm making is, is that is legal and available in America.

03:01:57.240 And there's no excuse to not make money.

03:01:59.200 I think there's other ways that are way more glorifying to make money that isn't selling

03:02:03.400 your body on the internet.

03:02:04.180 Well, the average person, I mean, isn't able to like become a drop shipper or like become 0.99

03:02:08.840 an influencer.

03:02:09.780 So too.

03:02:10.340 I mean, if we were all influencers, like where would, who's going to serve your coffee?

03:02:14.520 Who's going to be your gas attendant? 1.00

03:02:16.500 I mean, there needs to be like some kind of like threshold for people who do like.

03:02:22.280 Some people aren't.

03:02:23.660 Some people aren't.

03:02:24.240 With minimum wage jobs.

03:02:24.860 That's self-motivation though.

03:02:25.820 Obviously, there's a food chain, but just because those people that serve coffee exist

03:02:30.920 doesn't mean that you should be like, oh, I should just be able to serve coffee and not

03:02:35.640 try to, I don't know, be an entrepreneur or find ways to get more money.

03:02:38.700 I don't think anybody who serves coffee, like sits there and is like, I'm just going to

03:02:42.400 serve coffee for the rest of my life.

03:02:44.260 I know people who work in factories or people who work at McDonald's.

03:02:48.600 Like you think your average McDonald's worker shouldn't be allowed to like live or have

03:02:52.460 a family?

03:02:52.960 Well, I know a barista that is in her thirties. 1.00

03:02:56.340 Here, let's get, let's move on.

03:02:57.540 We got some chats.

03:02:58.340 We got to get to, we have smoking pancakes.

03:03:00.820 Ladies, no man wants a relationship with someone with a high body count. 1.00

03:03:04.000 Example, the one village bicycle in my hometown is 36, has 500 plus body count, five different

03:03:11.560 baby dad, he's still not married.

03:03:12.980 No one wants that.

03:03:14.120 Hit it, Brian.

03:03:14.860 She belongs to the, what? 1.00

03:03:18.220 Oh, wait.

03:03:18.620 Unmute, unmute, unmute.

03:03:19.700 Unmute?

03:03:20.200 Oh, okay.

03:03:21.140 She belongs to the streets. 0.92

03:03:22.780 Oh.

03:03:24.300 Thank you, smoking pancakes.

03:03:25.520 Appreciate it.

03:03:25.980 And then we have, once again, Brian, I've been watching since January.

03:03:29.120 Great show.

03:03:29.520 Keep it up.

03:03:29.860 Hey, man.

03:03:30.140 Thank you for all your support.

03:03:32.220 Good to hear you've been watching for such a long time, man.

03:03:34.160 Thank you.

03:03:34.440 The culture in the South is still pretty traditional.

03:03:37.540 There's a small percent that aren't.

03:03:39.440 I find the dating culture in Cali cringe.

03:03:42.000 Gen Z is destroying the country. 1.00

03:03:43.440 Two thumbs down.

03:03:44.420 I don't know.

03:03:44.720 We got, you two are Gen Z, right? 0.87

03:03:46.500 You guys are pretty good.

03:03:47.260 Gen Z. 0.58

03:03:47.780 I think I'm also actually Gen Z.

03:03:50.340 I think I'm the year before, the year after millennial.

03:03:53.400 What year does Gen Z start? 0.98

03:03:54.420 Yeah, we are.

03:03:55.200 I'm 26.

03:03:56.080 You're 26?

03:03:56.880 Yeah.

03:03:57.660 We're in 96?

03:03:58.500 Oh, yeah.

03:03:59.280 97.

03:04:00.140 Yeah.

03:04:00.540 I think 96, 97 is the cusp of Gen Z, millennial.

03:04:04.560 I don't know.

03:04:05.320 I think millennial is.

03:04:06.080 I have a lot of hope for Gen Z.

03:04:07.800 Yeah.

03:04:08.340 I think the millennials are.

03:04:10.060 Millennials.

03:04:10.760 Millennials.

03:04:11.360 I think that it's just a larger display of people who are more.

03:04:17.860 Actually, wait.

03:04:18.600 I have no faith in Gen Z. 1.00

03:04:19.780 Never mind.

03:04:20.140 What?

03:04:20.460 I think that social media brings out a lot of people who are more morally loose,

03:04:26.200 for lack of a better word, again.

03:04:27.940 Yeah.

03:04:28.200 But I think that if you actually, like, just scientifically took that entire generation 0.71

03:04:32.680 and looked, a lot more would be more traditional or conservative than you would expect.

03:04:36.460 Let me just clarify on the Gen Z thing.

03:04:39.220 Actually, it's very polarized, is what I should say. 1.00

03:04:41.980 There's a lot of crazy motherfucker. 1.00

03:04:44.780 Well, I think there's crazy people I've ever heard. 1.00

03:04:46.180 But I think there's some really based people.

03:04:50.160 Of course.

03:04:50.780 I mean, Gen Z is a huge cohort of people. 1.00

03:04:53.080 But there's some super base people who are Gen Z, and then there's a lot of crazy shit 0.99

03:04:59.080 going on in Gen Z, too. 0.98

03:05:00.460 It's very extremist on both sides.

03:05:02.140 It's pretty wild on both sides, I reckon.

03:05:03.800 I wonder what the generation after Gen Z will be called.

03:05:06.680 Gen Alpha.

03:05:07.440 Yeah.

03:05:07.860 Gen Alpha.

03:05:08.280 Gen Alpha?

03:05:09.040 It is.

03:05:09.440 It's Gen Alpha.

03:05:10.400 It is.

03:05:10.580 Gen Alpha.

03:05:11.560 Wow.

03:05:12.000 That's going to be funny when it's been beta.

03:05:13.920 Yeah, it's been beta.

03:05:15.040 Alpha's going to just be dunking on beta. 1.00

03:05:17.280 You fucking betas. 1.00

03:05:18.780 You betas, yeah. 1.00

03:05:19.480 Oh, that's going to be – maybe they've got to skip over that.

03:05:22.700 That's cute.

03:05:23.000 That's a big name.

03:05:24.440 All right.

03:05:24.920 We have – and we need to finish on a couple of conversational threads.

03:05:29.800 But we have – did I do this one?

03:05:33.060 Yeah, we did.

03:05:33.620 We did.

03:05:34.900 Oh, this is good.

03:05:36.280 Conan 19.

03:05:37.260 Hey, thank you, man.

03:05:38.140 Thank you for all the support tonight, man.

03:05:39.600 Red flag or green flag?

03:05:40.640 He's a prepper.

03:05:42.760 Lots of guns.

03:05:43.700 Owns body armor.

03:05:45.880 Trains.

03:05:46.340 What's that?

03:05:46.600 Like a prepper?

03:05:47.100 Oh, like a popper?

03:05:47.920 Yeah, like prepping for something that happens.

03:05:50.120 Prep, like survivalist.

03:05:51.100 That's what we're thinking, like survivalist.

03:05:51.700 I think that's a green flag.

03:05:53.740 Green flag.

03:05:54.340 Green flag.

03:05:54.380 Green flag.

03:05:55.780 I think that's a green flag.

03:05:56.880 Personally –

03:05:57.480 It might be like military or something.

03:05:58.680 We'll go around the table on this.

03:05:59.940 Go ahead.

03:06:00.920 Personally, if you're prepping for the zombie apocalypse, I'm going to pass.

03:06:04.920 I feel like that's a certain level of – it depends whether it's interest or delusion.

03:06:10.600 What if he has a bunker?

03:06:12.560 Pass.

03:06:13.100 Or pass.

03:06:13.700 Wait, but what if he's like – he's really wealthy, so it's just like he's accounting

03:06:18.200 for –

03:06:19.020 How wealthy are we talking that you just casually have a bunker?

03:06:23.260 I could afford a bunker.

03:06:25.320 I think.

03:06:25.940 Wait, maybe not.

03:06:26.640 I feel like a bunker is a couple million dollars.

03:06:28.320 Is it?

03:06:28.600 Like a nuke-proof bunker.

03:06:30.040 Oh, like a really good bunker?

03:06:31.820 If you're going to get a bunker, you're going to get a good one, right?

03:06:34.020 Oh, hold on.

03:06:34.800 Just a second.

03:06:35.100 Valdev donated $100.

03:06:36.840 Thank you, man.

03:06:37.560 It's less about social economy and more about inflation plus corporations maximizing profit.

03:06:43.660 There are a lot of psyops to keep money flowing and people single.

03:06:47.160 I don't ever do this, but I might actually make an insta and shot my shot at area.

03:06:51.660 Oh.

03:06:52.740 Oh, okay.

03:06:55.080 Romantic.

03:06:55.960 Yeah, they've been feeling you in the chat.

03:06:58.380 Yeah.

03:06:59.220 They're like muscle mommies. 0.62

03:07:00.420 You all have to fight.

03:07:03.260 Okay, yeah.

03:07:04.080 Well, actually, we could do that.

03:07:06.360 Yeah, we could arrange that.

03:07:07.440 Yeah, and whoever's left alive wins.

03:07:10.880 Oh, it's battle to the death.

03:07:12.160 Yeah.

03:07:12.680 Oh, okay.

03:07:13.280 It's the only way to do it.

03:07:14.940 So, no for prepper.

03:07:16.300 What about you?

03:07:16.720 Would you date a prepper?

03:07:17.800 Yeah.

03:07:18.620 I like guys who have guns.

03:07:20.480 Yeah.

03:07:21.120 What about you?

03:07:21.860 I'm green flag.

03:07:22.900 It seems like ex-military or maybe even, or yeah, maybe current military.

03:07:27.440 Kind of.

03:07:27.640 Okay.

03:07:28.020 Yeah.

03:07:28.640 I mean, sure, if you wake up every day and you're like, oh my God, the apocalypse is coming,

03:07:32.920 then I don't want that.

03:07:34.980 But, yeah, that's fine, I guess.

03:07:37.880 Let's say he doesn't really talk about it much, but it's clear that he's got a... 0.99

03:07:45.340 Don't you want a guy who's got a fucking plan like that? 0.98

03:07:47.920 A man with a plan is the hottest thing ever. 0.99

03:07:50.140 Well, yeah, if he has a plan, that's great.

03:07:51.760 But if he's anxious about it constantly...

03:07:54.120 You'd be kind of worried about his health.

03:07:55.560 Wait, here's another question.

03:07:56.900 You know at hotels on the front door, there's like, here's the escape route in the case of 0.96

03:08:01.220 a fire or some shit. 0.86

03:08:02.380 Oh, yeah. 0.98

03:08:02.680 That's fair.

03:08:03.360 You know what should be, I think the biggest turn-on for a woman should be if your boyfriend 1.00

03:08:07.240 reads the escape route.

03:08:10.500 Yeah, for sure.

03:08:11.700 That's like huge.

03:08:12.460 Yeah.

03:08:12.660 I like it when they have to be like facing the door.

03:08:16.940 Does that make sense?

03:08:18.060 Oh, when they sleep on the side close to the door?

03:08:20.580 I grew up with that.

03:08:20.760 Anytime me and my dad were somewhere together, he had to have a view of the door in case anyone...

03:08:25.500 Oh, like back to a wall?

03:08:26.740 Was he a police officer?

03:08:27.560 Or my mom was a police officer, so the...

03:08:29.840 I can't say on the internet what he does for a living. 1.00

03:08:32.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

03:08:32.380 But he did conceal carry. 1.00

03:08:34.140 Okay.

03:08:34.440 And he always in any room knew...

03:08:37.200 Oh.

03:08:37.940 Matthew McCarthy donated $99.

03:08:41.280 Brian, what's your ideal woman?

03:08:43.620 Age, height, personality, job, etc.

03:08:47.120 Also, chat going off, calling me a simp for supporting my boo-ballah-ha-ha.

03:08:52.000 What's everyone's thoughts on that?

03:08:54.580 Am I a simp?

03:08:55.900 No, I mean, you're...

03:08:57.500 Obviously, you're the boyfriend.

03:08:59.780 But...

03:09:00.140 Fiance.

03:09:00.940 Oh, fiance.

03:09:01.580 Excuse me.

03:09:02.140 Excuse me.

03:09:03.080 What's my...

03:09:03.980 Okay, we'll come back to the prepper thing really quick.

03:09:05.500 I'll answer this.

03:09:06.400 What's your ideal woman, age, height, personality, job?

03:09:09.180 Okay, so...

03:09:10.340 Hold on.

03:09:10.780 I have a list, actually, of what exactly my type is.

03:09:13.340 I've written down...

03:09:15.700 Wait, what's up, Nick?

03:09:17.500 Oh, Nick, did you say something, or...?

03:09:18.960 Oh, sorry.

03:09:20.280 I'm hallucinating hearing things.

03:09:22.940 While I'm trying to pull this up, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?

03:09:25.820 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:09:27.560 Drop us a follow.

03:09:28.140 Drop us a Prime sub.

03:09:29.620 Yo, Devosh, think for the Prime.

03:09:31.000 Rehabber, think for the five gifted subs. 0.99

03:09:33.820 Narisking, think for the Prime.

03:09:36.000 Glass5, think for the Prime.

03:09:38.120 The Mad Teabagger, think for the resub tier one. 1.00

03:09:41.800 Appreciate it, man.

03:09:42.340 Thank you.

03:09:43.560 Okay, so my type.

03:09:45.340 He asked, what, age?

03:09:46.560 Height.

03:09:47.820 What was the other?

03:09:49.240 Age, height.

03:09:49.880 Personality?

03:09:50.580 I'll pull it up.

03:09:51.780 Age, height, personality, job.

03:09:53.400 Okay, job?

03:09:56.980 I don't...

03:09:57.900 I don't know.

03:09:58.660 It's a range.

03:09:58.980 I don't really care.

03:09:59.800 I don't really care about...

03:10:02.960 When it comes to job, although I do say that I like it if she's done at least three years

03:10:11.140 of either cello or violin.

03:10:14.960 Very important.

03:10:16.020 Why particularly those?

03:10:17.120 Deal breaker.

03:10:17.920 No, I'm kidding.

03:10:19.900 No, I mean, that's me just kind of joking around.

03:10:21.860 Oh, okay, okay.

03:10:22.940 But job?

03:10:25.540 I mean, I kind of want to wait until she's back to say this, but...

03:10:28.860 Oh.

03:10:30.780 Like, not OnlyFans.

03:10:33.480 Definitely nothing sex work related.

03:10:35.420 No offense, any of you.

03:10:36.500 Fair.

03:10:39.540 Preferably not something job?

03:10:43.000 I don't know.

03:10:43.320 You always say you like a woman in STEM.

03:10:45.880 Yeah, STEM.

03:10:46.540 I like STEM.

03:10:47.240 Like, if so, she's kind of...

03:10:48.980 I don't know.

03:10:49.980 I'm trying to think.

03:10:50.960 Has to be smart.

03:10:53.160 Intelligence. 0.65

03:10:53.900 Brian wants a nerdy girl.

03:10:55.600 It's weird because I like smart women who are kind of like nerdy, but also... 1.00

03:10:58.880 I'm going to get canceled for this. 1.00

03:11:01.700 There is something kind of hot about, like, someone who's stupid. 1.00

03:11:06.000 Do you know what? 1.00

03:11:07.140 Like, not stupid in the way they're going to fuck your life up because they're so stupid, 1.00

03:11:10.560 like, in a clumsy kind of way. 1.00

03:11:11.920 But, like, simple.

03:11:13.640 Because people who are really intelligent can sometimes be neurotic.

03:11:17.860 And they can have intentions.

03:11:19.260 And someone that's, like...

03:11:21.060 Like, I was like Jillian.

03:11:22.280 I always liked Jillian from Family Guy.

03:11:24.100 I thought she was a nice... 1.00

03:11:25.100 Like, I mean, it's a cartoon, but I was like, she seemed funny, nice, but, like... 0.96

03:11:28.160 Yeah, not stupid, but, like... 0.98

03:11:29.960 You can teach her. 1.00

03:11:30.800 Simple.

03:11:31.600 Just not...

03:11:32.520 Like, just...

03:11:33.080 Makes sense.

03:11:33.780 Just here to enjoy and be happy.

03:11:35.880 Yeah.

03:11:36.220 I don't know.

03:11:36.880 Look, I think women who are very intelligent, I think that's attractive, too. 0.95

03:11:41.920 But in the same way that you can like a woman with blonde hair and a woman with brown hair.

03:11:45.620 Yeah.

03:11:46.080 It's attractive in different ways.

03:11:46.780 Yeah.

03:11:46.920 It's attractive in different ways.

03:11:48.300 Yeah.

03:11:48.420 You know, there's something to say about, like, someone who's simple, you know?

03:11:51.700 Yeah.

03:11:51.960 Yeah.

03:11:52.460 So, maybe I'm gonna get canceled for that.

03:11:54.840 No.

03:11:55.220 But height...

03:11:55.660 I don't know.

03:11:56.980 If she's over five feet, it's a wrap. 1.00

03:11:59.020 She's gotta be, like, 4'11".

03:12:00.340 If her height doesn't start with four, she ain't the one. 1.00

03:12:03.660 Hey. 1.00

03:12:04.280 Oh, shit. 0.99

03:12:05.000 I mean, I'm kind of joking. 1.00

03:12:06.400 Oh, here we go.

03:12:07.860 Valdev donated $100.

03:12:10.500 If I can bring full kit to the deathmatch, easy brazy, I'm still confident hand-to-hand,

03:12:15.500 but a bit more of a dice roll either way.

03:12:17.740 Oh, yes, mom.

03:12:18.780 Also, yes, muscle mommy, best mommy.

03:12:22.060 I'm gonna fight for you.

03:12:22.660 Wait, can we get another flex?

03:12:24.100 Another flex?

03:12:24.920 Yeah.

03:12:25.220 Another little flex?

03:12:26.080 A little buy?

03:12:26.420 Someone should donate.

03:12:27.460 Oh, yeah.

03:12:28.420 The other arm, maybe?

03:12:29.800 Wait, we haven't seen the triceps.

03:12:31.600 Can we see the tris?

03:12:32.300 My triceps, they're big, but they hold a lot of my fat, so they're not very...

03:12:37.640 No, I mean, that's pretty good.

03:12:39.240 She looks amazing. 0.96

03:12:40.380 She's just crazy. 0.97

03:12:40.660 But they are way bigger than my biceps, so...

03:12:43.660 Wow.

03:12:44.220 Yeah.

03:12:44.800 Fwok. 1.00

03:12:45.460 Okay.

03:12:45.920 Wow.

03:12:46.620 Fwok. 1.00

03:12:47.420 Fwok. 1.00

03:12:48.100 Okay.

03:12:48.720 Why are you saying it British?

03:12:50.140 Fwok. 1.00

03:12:50.380 That's how you...

03:12:51.120 Fwok? 0.99

03:12:51.740 Fwok. 1.00

03:12:52.220 Fwok? 0.99

03:12:52.440 No, no.

03:12:53.320 Yeah, Fwok. 1.00

03:12:54.640 It's actually the R and the K, you don't even really pronounce it.

03:12:58.420 It's silent.

03:12:59.320 What?

03:12:59.500 It's like fwok. 0.99

03:13:00.260 Fwok. 1.00

03:13:00.840 That's different.

03:13:01.580 It's fwok. 0.95

03:13:02.120 They say fwok, and then they say fwok.

03:13:04.220 Fwok is F-U-A. 1.00

03:13:05.800 Fwork is F-U-A-R-K.

03:13:07.160 No, I'm pretty sure F-U-A-R-K is fwok. 1.00

03:13:10.120 You're not close to that.

03:13:10.640 No.

03:13:11.160 No, no, no, no, no.

03:13:11.940 You don't know.

03:13:12.760 You don't know.

03:13:13.100 I think you guys...

03:13:13.700 Trust me.

03:13:14.160 We're around people who are friends with...

03:13:16.200 Can we get this ziz?

03:13:16.220 Another ziz?

03:13:16.960 How about you do this?

03:13:18.020 How about you do it?

03:13:19.360 No, one arm is like this.

03:13:20.800 You're close.

03:13:22.600 You've got to look...

03:13:23.080 No, you're scuffing it.

03:13:24.600 I'm scuffing it.

03:13:25.380 You're doing this.

03:13:25.860 Wait, it's just one hand like this.

03:13:27.180 No, you guys are scuffing it.

03:13:28.180 Oh, yeah, yeah.

03:13:28.580 It's bicep and then...

03:13:29.380 Yeah.

03:13:29.680 Sorry.

03:13:30.840 Wait, let's see it again.

03:13:33.120 Bicep and then...

03:13:34.880 Two hands.

03:13:36.300 We...

03:13:36.660 Can I...

03:13:37.040 It's a really quick story.

03:13:38.140 We were at the beach the other day, and this guy had... 0.99

03:13:40.100 Who was skinny as shit. 0.99

03:13:41.300 Had a full chest hat. 0.99

03:13:42.920 Sorry.

03:13:43.620 Full chest hat of ziz on his chest.

03:13:46.300 And we went up to him.

03:13:46.960 We asked if he knew who it was, and he said no.

03:13:48.860 Oh.

03:13:49.420 Like, all the way across, all the way down his sternum.

03:13:51.860 Like, it was bad.

03:13:52.820 It was really bad.

03:13:53.520 He didn't know who it was.

03:13:54.820 I think he just said that he asked for something, like an angel.

03:13:58.840 And then pulled it up on Pinterest.

03:13:59.780 He asked for an angel.

03:14:00.780 It was widened out.

03:14:01.340 And it's a photo on Pinterest.

03:14:03.100 Oh.

03:14:03.500 Yeah.

03:14:03.940 Oh.

03:14:04.560 And it's bad.

03:14:05.240 And we had to explain to him who it was.

03:14:07.160 I could see, because, like, people have...

03:14:09.020 Because he, you know, RIPs is...

03:14:11.300 People probably...

03:14:12.680 There's photos online of, like...

03:14:14.260 Him photoshopped with the wings.

03:14:15.320 With wings.

03:14:15.920 Yeah.

03:14:16.720 That makes sense, but that's pretty funny.

03:14:18.060 I think he thought it was Icarus, too.

03:14:20.440 And it just was not at all.

03:14:22.420 What was his reaction when you revealed?

03:14:23.940 He was just like, ah.

03:14:25.260 He was, like, annoyed with us.

03:14:27.820 I don't know.

03:14:28.880 I don't know.

03:14:29.320 He was just like, nice to meet you.

03:14:30.440 Yeah.

03:14:30.840 So you just walked up to him, and you're like, oh, this is...

03:14:32.660 Because I had to know.

03:14:33.520 I had to know.

03:14:33.960 I went up to him, and I said...

03:14:35.520 Because our friend knew him.

03:14:36.680 So we walk up to him, and I just go, I have to ask you something.

03:14:39.720 Do you know who that is?

03:14:41.480 Because he didn't look like he worked out.

03:14:43.580 And he was, like...

03:14:45.160 I don't know.

03:14:45.440 He was weirded out that a random chick came up to him, which...

03:14:47.640 Fair.

03:14:48.500 But, yeah.

03:14:49.160 He had no idea who it was.

03:14:50.280 It was really funny.

03:14:50.840 Oh, man.

03:14:51.300 That tattoo artist didn't dirty, I guess.

03:14:53.140 Oh, and he just has to, like, live with that knowledge.

03:14:55.040 There's a random...

03:14:55.640 I don't think he cares.

03:14:57.620 Yeah, he didn't seem like he cared, but...

03:14:59.100 Did he tell you if someone has told him that before?

03:15:02.200 No.

03:15:02.420 Uh-uh.

03:15:02.820 He said...

03:15:03.380 He's never heard.

03:15:04.620 I think he was young.

03:15:05.680 It must have been a relatively new tattoo, but...

03:15:08.160 Jeez.

03:15:08.500 Yeah, it was so weird.

03:15:09.200 Oh, well, hey, it's not the worst tattoo to have, I guess.

03:15:12.220 It's kind of...

03:15:12.720 I guess most people wouldn't know who it was off of a glance, so...

03:15:15.680 Just to finish this one from Mr. McCarthy, he's asking, like, what's my type?

03:15:19.580 Ideal woman, age, height, personality.

03:15:21.780 Height, okay, so I was kind of...

03:15:22.700 I mean, look, I do have a slight preference for short women, but... 1.00

03:15:25.360 Like, I'll date a woman who's 4'7". 1.00

03:15:28.360 I'll date a woman who's 6'5". 1.00

03:15:30.560 I don't...

03:15:31.320 It's...

03:15:32.360 Not a huge thing.

03:15:34.440 Let's see.

03:15:35.460 What else?

03:15:37.200 Age?

03:15:40.720 Ideal woman? 0.91

03:15:44.760 Ideal?

03:15:46.600 I mean, probably...

03:15:50.500 21.

03:15:51.780 There you go.

03:15:52.220 We already, like, discussed this.

03:15:53.300 21.

03:15:53.700 Why does he care?

03:15:55.800 And then she has to have, like... 1.00

03:15:57.680 Obviously, this is very important. 0.96

03:15:59.400 Has to have large labia. 0.83

03:16:00.640 Like, that's... 0.61

03:16:01.520 No, if, like...

03:16:04.440 It's just, you know...

03:16:05.560 Okay.

03:16:05.940 All right.

03:16:06.260 Okay.

03:16:09.580 Got to check for that first.

03:16:13.120 Yeah, I have...

03:16:13.960 Listen, I have a...

03:16:15.160 No, that's awesome.

03:16:16.220 Actually, that's awesome.

03:16:17.820 I appreciate you caring about that, you know?

03:16:20.900 I am a woman's advocate.

03:16:22.560 What about that, like, you know...

03:16:23.440 Without the YOLO tat, though.

03:16:24.640 That straight line?

03:16:25.600 Without the YOLO tat, though.

03:16:26.400 Without the YOLO tat, yes.

03:16:28.440 I'm a feminist, really, at the end of the day.

03:16:31.400 I am a feminist because... 1.00

03:16:33.280 I'll take...

03:16:34.400 What?

03:16:34.880 But you're a feminist? 1.00

03:16:35.960 No, I mean...

03:16:36.440 Wait, actually, I have a question.

03:16:38.120 Do you guys feel like being a feminist is anti-man?

03:16:40.960 I feel like it's not the other day.

03:16:42.400 In this day and age, yes.

03:16:43.720 Modern feminism. 0.98

03:16:44.460 Modern day...

03:16:45.340 Exactly.

03:16:46.080 Modern day feminism. 1.00

03:16:47.280 But, I mean, like, if it wasn't for feminists, like, you wouldn't be able to vote. 1.00

03:16:51.040 Somebody told me that.

03:16:52.040 A lot of the freedoms that we have today, as women, you have to give up to feminists. 1.00

03:16:56.700 But I'm not...

03:16:57.200 I'm not really...

03:16:58.160 Actually, I think you have men to think.

03:17:00.020 And men who are also feminists.

03:17:02.140 Men are feminists, too. 0.97

03:17:03.280 Somebody said that sex... 0.99

03:17:04.660 Like, feminists... 1.00

03:17:05.800 There's a certain part of... 0.90

03:17:07.080 Sex workers, they... 1.00

03:17:08.020 I mean, sorry.

03:17:08.500 There's a certain part of a group of feminists that don't believe that sex work is, like, 1.00

03:17:11.600 a feminist, like, activity. 1.00

03:17:13.480 So, I'm...

03:17:13.820 There's two.

03:17:14.340 I don't know if I...

03:17:14.780 Radical feminism. 0.92

03:17:16.100 Wait, which one is there?

03:17:17.000 Radical feminism is against sex work. 1.00

03:17:19.100 Okay.

03:17:19.260 Liberal feminism is... 1.00

03:17:20.520 World.

03:17:21.020 Okay, gotcha.

03:17:21.700 Yeah.

03:17:22.000 Gotcha.

03:17:22.480 Sex work positive.

03:17:23.860 Oh, okay.

03:17:24.040 Yeah, there's a lot of different tribes.

03:17:26.520 Yeah, I was like, huh.

03:17:27.620 I didn't know that.

03:17:28.400 It's just no longer a...

03:17:29.460 Sorry.

03:17:30.020 It's no longer a positive terminology.

03:17:33.000 Yeah.

03:17:33.640 Sex work? 0.95

03:17:34.260 You can't...

03:17:34.660 No, you can't use feminism for, like... 1.00

03:17:36.700 You can't use it as a general term anymore.

03:17:37.760 Yeah, a general term.

03:17:38.860 Look, but just to complete this point on the...

03:17:43.860 I think it's a shame that people can be shamed.

03:17:47.480 I don't know why I used it that way.

03:17:48.620 It's a shame, like, if men are shamed for their genitalia, and I don't think women should 1.00

03:17:54.360 be shamed for their genitalia either.

03:17:55.800 If you were born that way, because, listen, there's 10,000 women a year are getting labiaplasty. 1.00

03:18:02.240 Like, I don't...

03:18:03.420 Listen, I'll talk you out of it.

03:18:04.820 Ladies, DM me. 0.99

03:18:05.640 I'll talk you out of it.

03:18:07.380 My DMs are open.

03:18:08.400 Send a picture.

03:18:09.000 I'll help you out.

03:18:09.720 What do you mean to say?

03:18:10.700 No.

03:18:11.460 It's beautiful.

03:18:12.580 Don't do it.

03:18:13.660 I'll say it.

03:18:14.580 I mean, look...

03:18:14.980 Like, most men don't care.

03:18:16.580 They just, like, they're just happy to be there.

03:18:19.400 I would agree with that.

03:18:20.380 But there are definitely, like, there are some guys who perhaps...

03:18:24.040 Well, okay, there's two things.

03:18:25.020 Some guys think if a woman has large labia that it means that she's had a lot of sexual 0.92

03:18:29.800 partners. 0.69

03:18:30.760 That's not true.

03:18:31.460 That's not how anatomy works.

03:18:33.180 Not a thing.

03:18:35.420 And what's the other thing?

03:18:37.560 Oh, they'll, like...

03:18:39.680 There are some men and women who will, like, throw out, like, oh, roast beef, beef curtains,

03:18:45.600 wizard sleeve.

03:18:47.340 That's what it means.

03:18:48.260 Wizard sleeve.

03:18:49.640 Wizard sleeve.

03:18:51.000 I didn't know that.

03:18:51.860 I don't think it's...

03:18:55.240 We should be shaming people for the way they were born.

03:18:57.500 Yeah.

03:18:57.960 In the same way we shouldn't shame men if they're lacking in the bulge.

03:19:01.380 Yeah. 1.00

03:19:01.740 I think it's not, you know, you got this big dick energy, small dick energy shit. 1.00

03:19:07.660 Not a fan of it. 1.00

03:19:08.960 Not a fan.

03:19:09.580 Real body positivity.

03:19:10.820 Let's body shaming. 0.79

03:19:11.640 Body positivity.

03:19:11.920 Yeah, body positivity.

03:19:12.920 I'm a feminist. 1.00

03:19:14.040 Let's go.

03:19:14.460 Yeah.

03:19:14.940 I have, like, I agree with you.

03:19:16.920 I think men deserve more compliments, too.

03:19:18.960 Actually, so I heard that men don't get enough compliments, so now I go out of my way to

03:19:24.920 compliment men.

03:19:25.760 Let's see.

03:19:27.100 Oh, word.

03:19:27.860 Good.

03:19:28.120 That's good.

03:19:28.440 Oh.

03:19:28.940 I love that.

03:19:29.320 Wrapping up on my, you know, my ideal woman.

03:19:32.020 No plastic surgery.

03:19:35.780 What else?

03:19:38.060 Probably I prefer more introverted women. 1.00

03:19:41.920 That's pretty much it.

03:19:43.460 There's some other stuff, too, but we'll move on.

03:19:45.840 So what is it?

03:19:46.840 Huh?

03:19:47.100 What's the other stuff?

03:19:49.660 Why don't you want to share the other stuff?

03:19:51.640 What's the other stuff that you like?

03:19:53.080 Oh, on my list?

03:19:53.940 Yeah. 1.00

03:19:54.160 Okay, fuck. 1.00

03:19:54.700 I mean, I can keep reading. 1.00

03:19:57.260 How long is this list?

03:19:58.900 Okay, so let's, fine.

03:19:59.840 I'll go a little bit more into depth on, like, the no plastic surgery thing.

03:20:02.920 This is also, I also prefer, like, minimal makeup or no makeup at all.

03:20:07.520 When it comes to plastic surgery, some guys disagree with me on this.

03:20:11.980 But for example, and I'll go bullet point on this, breast implants. 0.94

03:20:16.700 I would prefer a woman who, let's say she had small breasts or they were uneven or lopsided, 1.00

03:20:24.180 whatever they may be. 0.99

03:20:25.320 I would prefer a woman who had small breasts or totally flat over fake tits. 1.00

03:20:31.460 Perfect fake tits. 0.99

03:20:32.580 I'd prefer her how she was, even if she was totally flat. 1.00

03:20:35.640 Totally flat.

03:20:37.080 Let's talk about liposuction.

03:20:39.280 I would prefer a girl who had a little bit of belly fat over a girl who had that lipo belly. 1.00

03:20:44.940 I think the lipo belly, it looks really uncanny.

03:20:48.400 I've seen it.

03:20:49.640 I knew a girl who actually, like, was that really fit?

03:20:52.180 But, like, listen, I don't care who you are.

03:20:54.920 Most people, like, if you bend over a little bit, unless, like, you're a genetic phenom like her over here. 0.88

03:21:01.760 If you bend over, like, you're going to have a little bit of, like, a little chub, you know?

03:21:05.980 So I would prefer a girl who has a little bit of belly fat, a little chub over the lipo belly. 1.00

03:21:12.080 What else?

03:21:13.700 Fake lips.

03:21:14.560 I'd prefer a girl who has a small upper lip than the fake lip. 1.00

03:21:18.860 And then the other one, BBL, I'd prefer a girl who's just totally flat, but over BBL. 1.00

03:21:23.000 I just... 1.00

03:21:23.640 Fuck BBLs. 1.00

03:21:25.260 They're killing women left and right. 1.00

03:21:27.400 True. 0.91

03:21:27.680 Yeah.

03:21:27.940 I don't think it looks good. 1.00

03:21:29.460 Fuck BBLs. 1.00

03:21:30.140 I don't think it looks good. 1.00

03:21:30.560 No, I did a speech class in college, and I did this research, and literally BBLs are the absolute worst fucking plastic. 1.00

03:21:38.240 It's really bad. 0.99

03:21:39.160 Horrible.

03:21:39.640 You've got to earn it.

03:21:40.740 You've got to earn it.

03:21:41.620 It's also not...

03:21:43.180 I don't want to say it's not difficult, but almost anybody can achieve a better body just by going to the gym.

03:21:49.920 I agree.

03:21:51.160 It's, like, crazy the amount of excuses you hear from people who don't work out.

03:21:55.640 Like, it's, like, actually...

03:21:56.220 It's just a shortcut.

03:21:57.080 Yeah, it's upsetting almost.

03:21:59.280 Women want these unrealistic beauty standards, and I think men tend to gawk after that because of the corn industry, because they see these super fake women and think that that's what they want, when in reality, they're way more physically attracted to a natural-looking woman. 0.99

03:22:16.540 Oh, yeah.

03:22:17.040 You know what's crazy is that there's all these women with BBLs, but, like, for example, on TikTok, I see most men, like, dying over, like, for example, Ana de Armas. 1.00

03:22:27.640 That's her name, right?

03:22:28.460 Ana de Armas.

03:22:29.060 Okay, yeah.

03:22:29.500 The girl in Blade Runner.

03:22:30.820 Yeah.

03:22:31.040 And she's just, like, she just looks completely natural.

03:22:34.240 And she's a very pretty girl, but she looks, like, almost, like, an attainable beauty.

03:22:39.960 Does that make sense?

03:22:40.500 Right, right.

03:22:40.940 But there's also those guys who, like, die over Kylie Jenner, you know?

03:22:44.120 Oh, yeah.

03:22:44.680 Which is, honestly, but it's probably the type of men that you wouldn't associate yourself with, right?

03:22:48.240 So, yeah, it depends.

03:22:49.580 And the American beauty standard's always changing.

03:22:51.580 Like, at first, 2008, it was be a Victoria's Secret model, stick thin, and then it went to curvy hips, and now everyone's on ozempic, poisoning themselves to look skinny again.

03:23:00.780 And so, it's, like, as women, why don't we just embrace our natural femininity and being natural and being beautiful in our own selves instead of allowing social media, allowing the fake influencer culture, and allowing even sometimes men to change the way that we look for ourselves when you're really not pleasing yourself at all.

03:23:19.560 I saw this.

03:23:20.760 Absolutely.

03:23:21.160 I'm sorry.

03:23:21.520 Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

03:23:22.060 I saw this Twitter post, and it was a picture of me and a picture of another girl who was, for lack of better words, again, chunky-ish.

03:23:30.720 Like, it was considered, like, thick, but in my opinion, it was a little bigger.

03:23:34.400 And everybody in the comments, it was, like, choose one, you know what I mean?

03:23:37.260 Like, a fit girl or someone who's thick.

03:23:39.180 And everyone in the comments chose the more thick woman because that account had a certain demographic versus there was another account that posted the same thing. 1.00

03:23:50.540 Huh.

03:23:50.820 That everybody was on my side because it was a different demographic.

03:23:53.540 That's interesting.

03:23:54.000 It's almost as if beauty is not objective.

03:23:59.540 Yeah.

03:24:00.320 Something for sure.

03:24:02.580 Beauty for sure is objective, and I do think there's a scale.

03:24:07.060 What is that thing called?

03:24:08.120 The Fibonacci or the...

03:24:09.940 Like, the golden ratio?

03:24:11.060 The golden ratio.

03:24:12.420 I mean, there's that.

03:24:13.100 I was obsessed with that.

03:24:14.020 And Playboy, when I was getting a lot of plastic surgery, I was very obsessed with it.

03:24:17.240 I was like, I want my face to look like the golden ratio.

03:24:19.520 And I would just sit there, and then I would go to the dance club to try to earn the money to go back to the... 0.76

03:24:24.540 And I was like, this is so silly.

03:24:26.060 Like, I'm obsessed with this. 0.56

03:24:27.980 And that's...

03:24:28.900 What work have you had done on your face?

03:24:30.820 And is it still...

03:24:32.440 Is it something that, like, fades over time?

03:24:34.800 Or is it, like...

03:24:35.620 Is your current face now pretty comparable to how it was?

03:24:39.040 No.

03:24:39.540 I think that...

03:24:40.880 So, growing up, I didn't feel very pretty.

03:24:44.100 So, I was like, okay, when I discovered that I could just earn money and change my whole face, I was like, great.

03:24:50.300 And then when you're in, you know, modeling, you're like, everyone's doing it.

03:24:53.600 This is great.

03:24:55.200 So, I would get cheek fillers.

03:24:56.900 Like, I would say on my face alone, I had spent about $55,000 over my entire, like, course of my...

03:25:02.520 What have you had?

03:25:03.800 Fillers, lip.

03:25:04.780 I would get my lips so big because I wanted to be like, you know, Angelina Jolie.

03:25:08.500 I wanted to get my cheeks higher.

03:25:10.740 And then I got fillers here.

03:25:12.820 I would get my teeth, you know, the teeth, which I'm okay with the teeth.

03:25:16.480 I like those.

03:25:17.020 They look great.

03:25:17.620 Yeah, they do look really good.

03:25:18.800 I was really...

03:25:19.580 I feel like out of all my purchases, that was okay because that really helped my confidence.

03:25:24.240 But...

03:25:24.500 Was it all just on your face?

03:25:25.720 It was all on my face only.

03:25:27.080 I said, I want to have a pretty face because I never felt like I had one.

03:25:29.580 So, I paid, you know, but then it turned into, like, I look at old pictures of myself and I'm like, who is that?

03:25:35.640 Like, and I was like, I'm so glad I, like, let it, like, go down.

03:25:39.500 And I'm like, okay, maybe I'll get a little Botox here and there if I feel like it's kind

03:25:44.160 of getting too much, but I don't, will never go to the extent...

03:25:48.300 Nothing too excessive.

03:25:48.960 Yeah.

03:25:49.240 Would you say that how you look now is fairly different or is it pretty minimal?

03:25:54.140 It's still different than what I looked like before.

03:25:56.200 But is it, I mean, is it a pretty minimal change or is it pretty substantial?

03:26:00.500 Oh, like, from, like...

03:26:02.160 Comparing no surgery to now.

03:26:05.600 No, so...

03:26:07.100 Do you have photos?

03:26:08.240 I do.

03:26:09.280 On your Instagram or no?

03:26:10.500 No, I took them down.

03:26:13.660 I do, I wish I could, I wish I could show you on my phone, like, what it looked like.

03:26:18.580 There was one picture I had and I, if I could find it, I don't know if we have the time,

03:26:22.300 but I would and I'd show...

03:26:23.640 Did you get the nose job too or no?

03:26:25.240 No, I, I got nose filler.

03:26:26.920 I would keep getting it filled because I had a hump in my nose and I remember I had, everyone

03:26:30.920 be like, you have a five head and I would always have, like, the lines.

03:26:34.360 I had five lines in my head and so I'd fill them and I filled and on my eyebrows, I tattooed

03:26:39.920 them on, it was like, I filled under the eyes.

03:26:43.660 I ended up getting migraines from the filler right here and yeah, and then they took it

03:26:47.880 out and it went all the way after they took it out.

03:26:50.800 I was like, dang, I had crazy migraines for like two years.

03:26:53.400 Yeah.

03:26:54.060 So, I'll send you a picture though, I'll send, you'll see it.

03:26:58.140 Send it right now or do you have your phone on?

03:26:59.820 Never mind, never mind.

03:27:00.800 I didn't know how many...

03:27:01.300 I'll look, I'll look at that after the show.

03:27:02.820 It was insane.

03:27:03.340 In any case, it's hard for me to compare, but I actually just like looking at you, I do think

03:27:07.080 you have, I mean, I don't know how much of it is the plastic surgery, I actually think

03:27:10.640 you have a very aesthetic face.

03:27:12.180 Oh, thank you.

03:27:12.900 Yeah.

03:27:13.720 Solid face.

03:27:14.520 Thank you.

03:27:15.020 Great face.

03:27:15.540 I'm part native, so maybe it's that.

03:27:18.280 Could be, could be.

03:27:19.740 Okay, I don't know where we were.

03:27:21.040 Oh, I was just going to say one thing about, like, body size and things like that.

03:27:26.020 Whenever I posed before and afters of, like, whenever I was, like, a little bit on the thicker

03:27:29.740 side to, like, where I am now or where I got to, which was a lot more, like, even fit

03:27:34.260 and, like, lean, I guess, than I am now, a lot of men would be, like, oh, I actually

03:27:40.940 really preferred you before.

03:27:43.060 And I'll just be, like, you know, I'll put another post and be, like, oh, the fact is

03:27:47.460 I feel so much better and healthier and stronger and agile and all these other things more.

03:27:52.740 But, yeah, I think it's just, like, a reminder, like, we have to do what feels good, like, for

03:27:57.400 us.

03:27:58.020 Sure.

03:27:58.600 Yeah.

03:27:58.880 Okay.

03:28:00.040 We have a message here.

03:28:03.120 The Chris Tubbs donated 69, more gone.

03:28:06.660 How do you say your name, Morgan?

03:28:07.720 It's just Morgan.

03:28:08.440 Oh, okay.

03:28:09.540 You're making a lot of great points and have a great demeanor.

03:28:12.160 Love what you're doing.

03:28:12.760 Keep it up.

03:28:14.260 Thanks, Chris.

03:28:15.560 Thank you, Chris.

03:28:16.160 Appreciate it.

03:28:16.960 Let me get through these chats.

03:28:18.060 We have, oh, the Prepper thing.

03:28:20.420 Prepper, did you answer?

03:28:22.160 Yeah.

03:28:22.560 I said, he sounds good.

03:28:23.480 She has an answer.

03:28:24.040 Oh, yeah.

03:28:24.740 I think green flag overall, as long as it's not, like, your obsession.

03:28:28.140 But, yeah, overall, for sure.

03:28:29.740 Green flag, bonus points if you have a bunker.

03:28:32.080 Based.

03:28:33.260 Green flag.

03:28:34.960 I love to feel protected and know that my man is ready to save us.

03:28:39.540 Frankie.

03:28:40.660 Frankie.

03:28:41.060 Get on it.

03:28:42.140 Get that bunker going.

03:28:43.520 Okay.

03:28:44.100 Yo, Puffy, thank you, man.

03:28:45.060 I've had blank with over 300 women. 1.00

03:28:48.120 Some of them are on my ellipses.

03:28:51.960 I would like this panel to rate me.

03:28:53.420 I have no trouble meeting women every blank of my life. 0.75

03:28:57.880 Puffy.

03:28:58.900 You got to do the trigger, man, if you want the rating.

03:29:01.580 You got to do it through Streamlabs, brother.

03:29:04.000 Cowboys, click.

03:29:06.040 Brian, you rule.

03:29:07.840 Maddie is a nine.

03:29:08.800 Girl in the pink top, you need help. 1.00

03:29:10.880 Older lady in the purple top, Jesus loves you. 1.00

03:29:13.960 Girl in the glasses, brush your hair. 0.99

03:29:18.380 Jesus.

03:29:19.320 Why is so mean?

03:29:20.660 White shirt girl, grow a voice. 1.00

03:29:22.640 They want to hear more from you, Ariel.

03:29:25.060 Okay, guys.

03:29:25.640 I'll try.

03:29:26.080 If they let me.

03:29:27.020 If they let me speak.

03:29:28.040 Blue top, you're kind of cute.

03:29:30.920 She left.

03:29:31.860 Oh, she dipped. 0.99

03:29:32.680 Oh, this came in like right when she left.

03:29:34.640 It smells so good.

03:29:36.260 We got Puffy Vegas here.

03:29:37.460 No man wants a boss, babe. 1.00

03:29:38.500 We want peace and wives. 0.93

03:29:39.540 I'm telling you, I don't care what you've been told.

03:29:41.380 We don't want, we don't, we don't, hello?

03:29:46.860 Women want, we want peace. 1.00

03:29:49.300 If you want to get a job, it does not mean anything.

03:29:51.880 We want women to be women who are peace.

03:29:54.700 Okay.

03:29:54.980 Thank you, Puffy Vegas.

03:29:56.080 This is BS.

03:29:57.080 I'm 48 and 20 year old.

03:29:59.240 Offer me ellipses every day.

03:30:03.020 Ellipses is three dots, right?

03:30:04.660 Am I?

03:30:04.840 What is that?

03:30:05.960 Ellipses?

03:30:06.540 Am I using that?

03:30:07.240 Ellipses is three.

03:30:08.020 That's two, but.

03:30:09.160 Ellipses?

03:30:10.200 I think that's what he means.

03:30:10.780 The mission from speech or writing of word to words that are superfluous or able to be

03:30:14.180 understood from contextual clues.

03:30:16.120 A set, a set of dots indicating an ellipses.

03:30:19.260 Okay.

03:30:19.540 I don't know.

03:30:20.140 Whatever.

03:30:21.540 Question to the panel.

03:30:22.720 Why do women lie about Puffy? 1.00

03:30:26.420 Brother, you, I know you're in Vegas, dude.

03:30:29.140 He like didn't know how to spell women, so he just put WN. 0.91

03:30:32.960 It looks like he has 300 bodies from his profile.

03:30:35.720 Yeah, I was looking at that earlier.

03:30:37.100 He has two girls on him.

03:30:38.460 Yeah, look at him.

03:30:39.660 He says, I'm a 48 year old, 20 plus girls, ask me out every day, ask the panel, would

03:30:44.980 they date a 50 year old plus guy?

03:30:48.060 I did, I guess.

03:30:49.120 It sounds like he's delusional, to be honest.

03:30:51.520 Well, some of the girls kind of already touched on this, but would you date a guy who's 50 plus?

03:30:55.860 No.

03:30:56.760 At this point, no.

03:30:58.540 I mean, I guess I did.

03:31:00.260 So, yeah, I mean, not, yeah.

03:31:01.620 No.

03:31:01.920 Um, maybe about 50 if just everything was so perfect and he had a lot of money or something.

03:31:10.520 Who's, is Brad Pitt?

03:31:11.100 But otherwise, I think 24 years difference is like a little bit much because then what

03:31:15.840 about when I get older and then I'm alone?

03:31:17.500 Fair enough.

03:31:17.940 Yeah.

03:31:18.500 As a 23 year old, my max would be 35.

03:31:21.780 That's fair.

03:31:22.540 Nar.

03:31:23.280 Nar.

03:31:24.040 Um, Brad Pitt though?

03:31:25.540 Any of you?

03:31:26.460 Come on.

03:31:27.160 Realistically, like, not just hypothetically, like, realistically, like, no, he's still a

03:31:31.960 50 year old man.

03:31:32.520 Yeah.

03:31:33.380 He's very beautiful, but.

03:31:34.700 Come on.

03:31:35.040 No, he's a gorgeous man, but he's old enough to be my father.

03:31:38.700 Yeah.

03:31:39.340 Like, that's. 1.00

03:31:39.680 I'd fuck him. 1.00

03:31:40.400 I wouldn't date him. 1.00

03:31:41.540 You'd fuck Brad Pitt, but you wouldn't date him? 1.00

03:31:43.580 Correct. 1.00

03:31:44.560 Okay.

03:31:45.440 All right.

03:31:46.160 What about you?

03:31:46.820 What's up?

03:31:48.220 I agree that he's very beautiful, but he is too old.

03:31:51.440 So.

03:31:52.140 Come on.

03:31:53.020 Brad Pitt steps to you.

03:31:55.780 The cameras are flashing paparazzi piece.

03:31:59.040 I feel like maybe, maybe entertain it for a second and flash a smile or whatever, but

03:32:03.520 not sleep with him.

03:32:04.400 Yeah.

03:32:04.860 Nothing about it.

03:32:05.200 I totally agree.

03:32:05.920 What about DiCaprio?

03:32:06.540 No, that's worse.

03:32:07.600 He's worse.

03:32:08.240 He's like not age as well.

03:32:10.680 That's terrible.

03:32:11.760 What about Henry Cavill?

03:32:14.500 Henry Cavill.

03:32:15.080 Oh, yeah.

03:32:15.400 Cavill.

03:32:15.660 He's gorgeous.

03:32:16.300 I don't think he's not 50.

03:32:20.300 I don't think he's not 50.

03:32:22.020 Gene Wilder was like attractive as an older man.

03:32:24.740 I was just thinking.

03:32:25.300 He's 40.

03:32:26.100 He's 40.

03:32:26.400 I did.

03:32:27.020 I was so happy.

03:32:28.040 Bring you that up.

03:32:29.040 One at a time.

03:32:29.860 Please go ahead.

03:32:30.220 Okay.

03:32:30.360 He's attractive.

03:32:31.140 Like, I'm.

03:32:31.660 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think I would date him.

03:32:36.780 Come on.

03:32:37.140 But he's very attractive.

03:32:38.180 I'm not going to lie.

03:32:39.140 And he seems very nice.

03:32:40.400 How old is Henry Cavill?

03:32:41.660 40.

03:32:42.380 Okay.

03:32:42.780 I still just, I don't think I'd be able to get past the idea that they're old enough

03:32:46.140 to like literally be my father.

03:32:48.260 Like that would be.

03:32:48.940 Well, yeah, I guess.

03:32:50.100 But 40 is close to the cap off.

03:32:52.640 I feel like I wouldn't sleep with somebody randomly, but hypothetically, if I were to,

03:32:59.380 my cap off would probably be like 38, like later 30s, right?

03:33:02.980 I feel like that's reasonable.

03:33:03.900 Yeah, that is reasonable.

03:33:05.560 Extreme scenario where they're like a 10 out of 10 most gorgeous man in the world.

03:33:09.060 But like, yeah.

03:33:09.640 Okay.

03:33:10.180 All right.

03:33:10.860 Okay.

03:33:11.760 All right.

03:33:12.680 Let's get, try to wrap up on a few of the threads that we started before.

03:33:16.400 So, and then we'll try to wrap up here shortly, one hour later.

03:33:22.640 Oh, here we go.

03:33:23.660 Thank you, man.

03:33:23.980 Matthew McCarthy donated $106.

03:33:26.940 Hey, thank you, Matthew.

03:33:27.880 Last one for the night to make it an even $700.

03:33:31.800 Panel, please rate Brian 1 to 10 and myself.

03:33:35.880 I sent my fasting transformation to the whatever ink.

03:33:40.080 290 pounds down to 230 pounds.

03:33:43.380 I love you, boo, Valor.

03:33:44.720 See you later.

03:33:45.840 Brian, please walk her to her car for me.

03:33:48.180 Did he drop you off?

03:33:49.600 It's a good thing if I parked right out front.

03:33:50.520 No, no, I just walk her to her car.

03:33:52.860 No, no.

03:33:53.700 Uh, okay.

03:33:54.540 He wants the panel to rate.

03:33:55.920 Oh, okay.

03:33:56.820 Hold on.

03:33:57.000 We'll get to it.

03:33:57.940 Valdev donated $100.

03:33:58.840 Hey, Valdeyav.

03:33:59.740 Thank you, man.

03:34:00.440 Puffy drunk tourists don't mean anything and for God's sake use the steamer labs link.

03:34:05.140 Mods spam that she's PLS every show. 1.00

03:34:07.120 Yo, thank you, man.

03:34:08.100 Can we got more muscle mommy hypers go? 1.00

03:34:10.740 I have more characters lock our regard.

03:34:12.700 He wants another flex, I think.

03:34:15.720 Oh, another flex.

03:34:16.620 He wants more flex.

03:34:17.860 Oh, we've done, like, all the poses.

03:34:19.900 What else can we do?

03:34:21.020 Another, uh, what about, like, turning around and then, like, the...

03:34:25.580 Well, like, you can tell me what pose next donation.

03:34:29.800 How about that?

03:34:30.160 Oh, well, yeah.

03:34:31.700 There you go.

03:34:32.700 There you go.

03:34:34.440 That, it is a reminder, guys.

03:34:36.020 Uh, you can use YouTube super chatting.

03:34:38.920 It's fine.

03:34:40.020 But for those who haven't heard the intro, YouTube takes a 30% cut.

03:34:44.460 So, if you donate $100, they're taking $30 of that.

03:34:47.120 Uh, obviously, YouTube doesn't need the money.

03:34:50.400 You're just putting it into the pockets of woke YouTube.

03:34:54.360 So, uh, if you want more of your patronage to actually go towards me,

03:34:58.520 we do recommend using the stream labs link.

03:35:00.380 That way, you know, you're actually...

03:35:02.740 More of your donation, let's say, is actually going to support us.

03:35:07.060 And I just actually bought a new camera.

03:35:08.880 We're going to set up a fourth camera.

03:35:10.600 Spent, like, $2,000 on that.

03:35:11.980 So, you know, I'm reinvesting.

03:35:13.960 I'm not...

03:35:14.440 You know, I don't ball out, guys.

03:35:15.460 I'm not, like, out there spending crazy money.

03:35:17.900 I reinvest the money back into the studio.

03:35:21.520 You know, we just bought a new computer, like, two months ago.

03:35:24.200 New camera.

03:35:24.800 Um, so, I'm still driving the same car I drove in 2013.

03:35:29.320 I'm wearing $5 t-shirts, flannels of that, you know, whatever.

03:35:33.780 I'm not trying to, like, I'm not balling out.

03:35:35.740 You know, I reinvest into the show.

03:35:38.180 So, Valdiv, thank you.

03:35:41.440 Laktar Ogar.

03:35:42.400 I think that's a World of Warcraft reference.

03:35:45.040 And then we have Matthew McCarthy.

03:35:48.220 Oh, yeah, I guess you guys have to rate me 1 to 10.

03:35:51.960 So, I mean...

03:35:53.720 You don't have to, but if you want, you can rate me 1 to 10.

03:35:58.520 And I won't be offended.

03:36:00.160 So, after the big labios matter, I'm going to give you a 9.

03:36:04.120 Based.

03:36:04.760 Okay.

03:36:05.280 There you go.

03:36:06.680 Go ahead.

03:36:07.300 You guys can rate me 1.

03:36:08.320 You'll look like a billion bucks.

03:36:11.380 Okay.

03:36:14.100 This might be a cop-out from everybody, but go ahead.

03:36:16.360 Yeah.

03:36:16.800 Give me...

03:36:17.140 Boyfriend, I don't feel comfortable.

03:36:18.820 So do I.

03:36:19.980 Sorry.

03:36:20.220 Give me a solid 7.

03:36:21.720 Sorry.

03:36:21.920 All right.

03:36:22.200 Okay.

03:36:22.780 There you go.

03:36:23.480 I'm not going to rate.

03:36:24.340 All right.

03:36:24.800 All right.

03:36:25.180 They're being...

03:36:25.700 They want to be nice.

03:36:26.320 Well, since it was Matt who asked, I'll definitely rate you.

03:36:29.860 Are we going only on looks or everything?

03:36:31.700 I think just looks.

03:36:32.700 Okay.

03:36:33.080 Looks, like 7.9.

03:36:35.660 Yeah.

03:36:36.680 All right.

03:36:36.940 But I think I'm taking everything into account, like, subconsciously.

03:36:40.420 But yeah.

03:36:40.680 No, I think...

03:36:41.040 Okay.

03:36:41.440 All right.

03:36:41.700 There you have it.

03:36:42.280 At least a 7.

03:36:42.620 I found the picture.

03:36:43.520 I think you lowball yourself with the 6. 0.63

03:36:44.780 Here, I'll take a look.

03:36:46.240 That's fine.

03:36:46.560 But okay, that's...

03:36:47.400 You're taking a selfie with the camera.

03:36:49.840 But that's...

03:36:49.900 Wait, you did it.

03:36:50.600 The surgery, right?

03:36:51.120 Wait, that was before surgery?

03:36:51.860 This was with a lot of filler.

03:36:53.460 This wasn't at my worst, but this was at a point where I did...

03:36:56.680 Yeah, but there's something to be said about the focal length of cameras.

03:37:00.080 Like, if you're taking a photo, like, from...

03:37:02.320 First off, the...

03:37:03.260 The angle?

03:37:03.660 What's it called when you're taking a photo like this?

03:37:05.660 Like, what's the...

03:37:06.980 Hero shot kind of thing, or...

03:37:09.280 No, when the front-facing camera on your phone, it's, like, not gonna take a good photo of

03:37:13.820 your face, because the focal length is really close, so I'm not gonna use that.

03:37:18.160 Like, I'm looking at you from about...

03:37:19.660 Guys, there's a ghost in here.

03:37:19.680 I just saw the bathroom door open.

03:37:22.540 Oh, that was me.

03:37:23.440 I closed.

03:37:24.140 I used the restroom.

03:37:25.940 No, but I swear I just saw it open right now, and now I'm too scared to go.

03:37:29.060 Are you high right now?

03:37:29.740 The window's open.

03:37:31.220 No.

03:37:32.220 It's fine.

03:37:32.920 Don't worry about it.

03:37:33.400 It's a breeze, babe.

03:37:34.360 Nick, I need you to walk me to the bathroom.

03:37:36.120 I actually have to pee-pee.

03:37:39.760 Oh, she's... 1.00

03:37:40.660 Okay, you go first.

03:37:42.740 Let me know.

03:37:43.960 Oh, wait, I'm so sorry.

03:37:45.740 Oh, I guess we have to do...

03:37:47.300 We will do an Instagram review on your...

03:37:53.140 You want to pull it up?

03:37:54.120 Your fiance?

03:37:54.980 Just...

03:37:55.620 I would...

03:37:56.540 Okay.

03:37:57.360 We'll do it.

03:37:58.160 We'll do it.

03:37:58.600 We'll do it.

03:37:58.840 I believe in ghosts, guys.

03:38:02.780 Ghosts are real.

03:38:03.580 Um, let me see if I can pull it up, but...

03:38:07.320 Uh, wait, what was the other thing we had?

03:38:09.760 Man, there's so...

03:38:10.560 We have to react to a couple videos, too, here.

03:38:12.660 Okay.

03:38:13.180 We have some videos to react to.

03:38:15.320 Music videos?

03:38:16.540 Uh, wait.

03:38:17.580 I don't...

03:38:18.220 Wait.

03:38:20.740 Is it in the request?

03:38:21.780 What's your boyfriend's name?

03:38:22.780 Matthew James McCarthy?

03:38:24.020 Yes.

03:38:26.780 Wait.

03:38:28.140 He sent me a bunch of stuff.

03:38:30.800 He sent me photos of you.

03:38:32.300 I'm confused.

03:38:33.580 Oh, you're, like, fitness.

03:38:35.200 What was the request?

03:38:35.940 Or you're, um, fasting, like...

03:38:38.440 Uh, I sent my fasting transformation to 290 pounds.

03:38:44.900 Uh, Nick, are you...

03:38:46.080 Do you have the Instagram pulled up?

03:38:47.560 I do, but it's just other messages.

03:38:50.040 Do you want me to, like...

03:38:50.740 You have to go into message requests?

03:38:52.580 Did you notice, like, a lot of difference with your fasting?

03:38:55.960 Like...

03:38:56.560 Oh.

03:38:59.220 Oh, you can tell me after.

03:39:00.320 Um...

03:39:01.000 Yeah, because it regulated, like...

03:39:03.680 Yeah.

03:39:04.620 Oh, okay.

03:39:05.320 Okay, let's just, uh...

03:39:07.140 It's in the messages, though, which makes it kind of a little...

03:39:12.680 Hold on.

03:39:13.060 Let me see what I can do here.

03:39:15.620 Oh, it's a post.

03:39:16.780 Just click on the post, his body transformation post.

03:39:19.040 He wanted us to react to that.

03:39:20.260 I'm genuinely scared to go to the bathroom alone.

03:39:22.120 So, uh, you clicked on it, right?

03:39:26.080 Um, yeah.

03:39:27.000 But now, like, no, it's not...

03:39:28.800 I read it.

03:39:33.780 Oh, can you move us over?

03:39:35.500 You know how to do it?

03:39:36.280 Just, like, hide the...

03:39:37.980 Do you want me to write?

03:39:39.420 No, there should be another...

03:39:40.980 I think, scroll up in the sources?

03:39:42.740 Oh, that's...

03:39:43.120 Or scroll down in the...

03:39:44.600 It actually looks 20 times better now.

03:39:46.400 Scroll...

03:39:46.880 Wait.

03:39:47.360 Scroll...

03:39:48.120 Oh, oh, oh.

03:39:52.660 We can't relate.

03:39:57.900 Oh, wow.

03:39:58.900 Wow, he did a good transformation.

03:40:00.600 The bottom, the GH5 center.

03:40:02.660 Oh.

03:40:03.040 It's...

03:40:03.280 No, no, no, the up one, up one, up one.

03:40:05.480 Yeah, that one.

03:40:06.120 And then just hide the other one.

03:40:08.080 Looks good.

03:40:09.220 All right.

03:40:10.380 Okay, that's his body transformation.

03:40:14.320 Ten.

03:40:15.040 Nice.

03:40:15.620 Yeah, he...

03:40:16.420 It looks good.

03:40:17.200 It looks like he...

03:40:17.720 How long did...

03:40:18.280 How long was that traditional?

03:40:20.080 The lighting's a little different in all the photos, though, I will say.

03:40:22.980 What I don't like in these, like, workout supplement things, they are like, look at this 0.95

03:40:27.640 transformation in the fucking photos, like, different lighting and, like... 0.97

03:40:31.760 Oh, yeah. 0.99

03:40:33.040 It does make a big difference.

03:40:35.080 Yeah.

03:40:35.340 You have to take it in the exact same location, exact same lighting, exact same pose.

03:40:42.180 Otherwise, it's like...

03:40:43.140 I'm not saying he's doing it, but...

03:40:44.780 Yeah. 0.99

03:40:44.840 Like, it's scummy when these, like, people who are selling fucking workout programs are, 0.99

03:40:48.320 like, taking... 0.99

03:40:49.760 Yeah.

03:40:49.940 Do you know who I'm thinking of?

03:40:51.520 Yeah.

03:40:52.360 Yes.

03:40:53.120 It looks like a good transformation. 1.00

03:40:54.000 You're fucking Chad, bro. 1.00

03:40:55.040 Look at this Chad. 1.00

03:40:55.820 He's fucking ripped. 1.00

03:40:56.740 Yeah. 1.00

03:40:57.360 Looks good.

03:40:57.780 He would do great in the zombie apocalypse.

03:40:59.480 Yeah.

03:41:00.140 Yeah.

03:41:00.460 Exactly.

03:41:01.320 He looks good. 1.00

03:41:01.780 You're fucking Chad, dude. 1.00

03:41:03.040 Okay. 1.00

03:41:03.580 So, let's...

03:41:05.900 I want to try to loop this in as best as we can.

03:41:08.440 We have some videos to react to.

03:41:09.960 So...

03:41:10.080 Oh, no.

03:41:11.720 He's from...

03:41:12.300 I want to touch really quick...

03:41:14.180 We were talking about the age gap stuff.

03:41:16.360 We didn't quite totally finish that.

03:41:18.800 Let's talk a little bit about that.

03:41:20.920 I'm trying to recall where I was with that.

03:41:24.460 If I recall, though, you think it's weird, the age gap stuff.

03:41:29.760 Wait.

03:41:32.160 Well, when it comes to, like, wanting a virgin and whatnot,

03:41:35.060 and I guess if it's too large of a gap, I think it's weird.

03:41:38.520 I don't think it's...

03:41:39.020 Yeah, there's two things there.

03:41:39.960 Well, I do recall, actually, let me...

03:41:41.820 I forgot if this was in relation to the age gap stuff or the virgin stuff.

03:41:45.320 The virgin, probably.

03:41:46.820 It might have been both, but at one point you used the word grooming.

03:41:51.880 Yes.

03:41:52.240 What do you mean...

03:41:53.240 What do you mean by grooming?

03:41:56.000 What does that mean?

03:41:58.140 I mean, grooming is interchangeable with, like, being manipulative.

03:42:03.380 I do think that someone, a man of a... 0.66

03:42:06.160 Especially if you're 50-plus, dating a 20-year-old, 19-year-old, 21-year-old,

03:42:11.800 it's definitely grooming.

03:42:13.120 Although I don't think...

03:42:14.040 It's definitely grooming.

03:42:15.200 I mean, yeah, because...

03:42:16.780 I mean, okay, fine.

03:42:17.860 Maybe not.

03:42:18.420 When you were a sugar baby, do you think you were monetarily manipulated

03:42:21.940 to continue to press into that relationship?

03:42:25.700 I actually felt that I was kind of more in control.

03:42:28.640 I was finessing them, honestly, when I was a sugar baby.

03:42:33.100 But that's a different dynamic than someone, like, marrying or, like, being serious with a...

03:42:38.900 Couldn't you make the argument that it's more predatory to...

03:42:43.760 Because, I mean, you admitted it yourself.

03:42:45.260 You said you were finessing, correct?

03:42:48.220 Yeah, 100%.

03:42:48.900 How were you finessing?

03:42:52.400 Because, I don't know, I made it seem like I liked them when I really didn't.

03:42:55.600 In an effort to...

03:42:57.900 To get money, yes.

03:42:59.680 To get money.

03:43:00.240 Yes.

03:43:00.820 To...

03:43:01.340 In an effort to...

03:43:03.120 What's...

03:43:04.280 There's a specific term for it, but it's evading me.

03:43:06.780 To...

03:43:07.420 Acquire.

03:43:08.700 Acquire.

03:43:09.360 In any case, okay, so...

03:43:11.100 Extortion?

03:43:12.020 Not extort...

03:43:12.660 Not extort money, but you were...

03:43:13.760 No, no, I never extorted anybody, no.

03:43:16.020 Like elder abuse?

03:43:16.940 Is that what you were...

03:43:17.320 No, no, no.

03:43:17.640 Okay, I was just...

03:43:18.760 I was...

03:43:19.060 Well, it's a thing.

03:43:20.460 In life insurance, they had us read a script.

03:43:23.060 So, that they said, you have to make sure people over the age of X amount, you must 1.00

03:43:27.000 read them a script because...

03:43:28.060 No.

03:43:28.840 That was...

03:43:29.560 I don't know how to abuse anybody.

03:43:31.860 I was wondering...

03:43:33.060 But, you know what?

03:43:34.020 There's arguments.

03:43:34.920 I mean, also, like, these are my experiences.

03:43:37.840 I think there's people who would argue that maybe I was taken advantage of.

03:43:41.140 I think maybe you would probably say that I, as a young woman, was taken advantage of,

03:43:46.220 right?

03:43:46.800 Well, I felt a different way.

03:43:48.860 And, you know, it is what it is.

03:43:50.660 I'm not going to agree or disagree with either.

03:43:52.780 I mean, I obviously feel the way I feel, so...

03:43:55.620 Okay, I mean...

03:43:58.320 But you said that you were with these men to get...

03:44:04.520 Hold on.

03:44:05.500 Valdev donated $100 from CPT Morgan Pose and fellas like Flannel Daddy says, get out, get

03:44:13.660 training hashtags, G-hashtag Hayley Strategic, okay, but for real, though, read this prompt.

03:44:18.980 The last chat, also, five to ten years is optimal age gap for a real build-a-life relationship.

03:44:24.760 I mean, it's hard to say what's optimal, but I don't know if there's...

03:44:41.600 It's optimal.

03:44:42.940 I just think people make choices, and some people end up with people closer to their age.

03:44:47.420 Some people end up with people there's a bit more of an age gap.

03:44:50.420 So, yeah, I don't know.

03:44:54.360 But, okay, thank you, man.

03:44:55.720 Appreciate it.

03:44:56.860 What was the pose he wanted?

03:44:58.260 I'll have her do it when she comes back.

03:45:00.280 I don't know.

03:45:00.520 Captain Morgan Pose.

03:45:02.180 I've never...

03:45:03.120 Oh, I think I know what it is.

03:45:05.140 I think.

03:45:05.380 Oh, like on the liquor?

03:45:07.520 Yeah, with like that.

03:45:08.400 On the chair?

03:45:09.120 The stool?

03:45:09.640 Like that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:45:10.500 She's got that.

03:45:11.920 Yeah, so...

03:45:13.860 I mean, you could actually make the argument that there's a lot more women who are... 1.00

03:45:22.520 I mean, these financial relationships, there's definitely a...

03:45:30.440 The men are will...

03:45:31.980 I don't know.

03:45:32.740 It's hard to say.

03:45:33.980 Because I believe in accountability.

03:45:35.140 The men, they're spending all this money on women, oftentimes getting very little in return.

03:45:44.500 They're consensually doing it.

03:45:47.740 There may be some degree of manipulation involved.

03:45:50.960 Like scamming and whatnot.

03:45:52.520 I mean, we've like...

03:45:54.280 Yeah, there's definitely...

03:45:54.940 I do think there is some manipulation and...

03:45:56.740 Yeah. 1.00

03:45:57.420 But, I mean, I think there's quite a fair amount of women who are doing that sort of shit. 1.00

03:46:03.480 Yeah, I mean, I would say... 0.99

03:46:04.840 Like who are hustling dudes.

03:46:06.380 Hustling.

03:46:06.720 Yeah, and I would agree, but not as many as you would think.

03:46:10.620 I mean, not nearly as many.

03:46:13.980 It's a lot.

03:46:14.580 It's a lot.

03:46:15.480 Like what percentage of women do you think are doing that? 1.00

03:46:18.040 Oh, I don't know, but...

03:46:20.220 I think it's not that many.

03:46:21.500 I would say, though, I would say that there's probably...

03:46:25.040 I mean, there's obviously scales to it.

03:46:27.580 Depends on what city you're into in Las Vegas. 0.99

03:46:29.540 Yeah, I mean, fucking Santa Rosa, no. 0.99

03:46:32.480 Casino, Robert De Niro, Sharon Stone. 0.98

03:46:35.220 But I would say, actually, though, that there's scales to it. 0.99

03:46:40.980 For example, like how many women are like fleecing men out of their like serious fucking money? 1.00

03:46:48.640 That's probably pretty small. 0.98

03:46:50.480 However, like on a more lower scale, you have women who are engaging in like foodie calls where they go on a date with a guy just to get a free meal.

03:47:00.320 Oh, yeah.

03:47:00.860 Or a free experience.

03:47:02.180 Yeah.

03:47:02.700 They did a study on that.

03:47:04.440 I think they did a study on that and they found it was like one third of women have done a foodie call.

03:47:10.020 Yeah.

03:47:10.380 And actually...

03:47:11.280 Seriously.

03:47:11.820 Yeah.

03:47:12.340 Because that's accessible to just like any girl go on Tinder.

03:47:17.220 No, I agree with that.

03:47:18.080 I'm not for that at all.

03:47:20.080 We've had girls on the show, like normal 19-year-old girls, college girls. 1.00

03:47:24.880 Like openly admit.

03:47:25.900 1,000 followers on Instagram.

03:47:28.200 Yeah.

03:47:28.900 Just regular run-of-the-mill college girls. 0.99

03:47:31.560 Yeah, I have a dude in my phone as Uber.

03:47:34.560 I have a dude in my phone as dinner.

03:47:37.720 Like there's... 0.98

03:47:39.340 That's shitty. 0.98

03:47:40.160 That's crazy. 0.99

03:47:41.460 I know.

03:47:42.300 We've...

03:47:43.020 It's pretty common.

03:47:44.920 No, I mean...

03:47:45.440 Girls have been abusing, I think, their femininity and using guys for the wrong reasons. 1.00

03:47:50.240 No, and I'm not okay with that.

03:47:52.240 What I was talking about was like bigger than that.

03:47:55.140 I mean, I don't...

03:47:55.780 I'm not for that.

03:47:56.560 I mean, I don't like to use guys, you know, like...

03:48:00.120 But you admit to having done it.

03:48:02.620 Older men with millions of dollars.

03:48:05.160 You can't compare that.

03:48:06.400 I mean, plus they were...

03:48:07.820 No, no, no, no.

03:48:08.680 You're still...

03:48:09.720 You're still doing it.

03:48:10.800 No.

03:48:11.360 How?

03:48:12.280 You admitted to, like, using men. 0.98

03:48:15.740 No, I admitted to having a pay pig who knows that he's my pay pig that I... 0.98

03:48:20.060 It's pretty degrading. 0.99

03:48:21.260 He wants to be degraded.

03:48:22.980 He pays for it.

03:48:23.860 That's what he pays for.

03:48:24.980 But couldn't...

03:48:25.560 You could argue that you're taking advantage of, like...

03:48:27.140 There's a distinction between sex work and dating than in real life dating.

03:48:31.660 Like, what I'm doing is essentially sex work.

03:48:34.560 I mean, this guy knows what he is. 0.99

03:48:36.480 I always wanted to know the psychology of a pay pig. 0.71

03:48:39.200 Just out of curiosity.

03:48:40.640 Like, I tried to look up, you know, out of curiosity, the dominatrix thing.

03:48:43.740 I tried to look it up, but I don't have the...

03:48:46.100 I'm very...

03:48:46.620 I don't think I have the type.

03:48:47.700 But I was curious about it.

03:48:49.000 He came to me.

03:48:50.040 Yeah.

03:48:50.300 Like, ask Hanley.

03:48:51.760 That...

03:48:52.080 I have...

03:48:52.620 I have never, like, felt like I used him for anything.

03:48:58.020 Like, he has come to me the entire time.

03:49:01.680 What you're talking about is women who are on Tinder with men their own age and their own

03:49:06.580 socioeconomic class.

03:49:08.000 Well, I'm talking about both.

03:49:09.220 Both.

03:49:09.580 I'm talking about both.

03:49:10.260 Yeah, but there's a huge distinction between the two.

03:49:12.420 I mean, there's sex work and then there's dating.

03:49:14.660 Like, one time when I was at the you-know-what...

03:49:18.720 Is it sex work?

03:49:20.980 It is with the dominant...

03:49:22.980 I mean...

03:49:24.140 It's an umbrella term these days.

03:49:25.820 But I don't get why, on one hand, you don't seem to object to, like, these men are just

03:49:31.100 sending you money.

03:49:34.760 You're saying you're not using him for anything, but you are using him for his money.

03:49:38.340 Say, if he didn't have money, you wouldn't be with him.

03:49:40.080 Let's use that argument then.

03:49:41.280 I'm not with him.

03:49:42.180 But, okay, but you...

03:49:42.960 You wouldn't have been with him.

03:49:44.060 I'm not with...

03:49:44.620 I've never been with him.

03:49:45.500 I've never met...

03:49:46.320 Wait, who are we talking about?

03:49:47.620 Hold on, but you said that the men consent to just sending you money...

03:49:51.120 Yes, they ask for it.

03:49:52.200 ...and getting nothing or little in return.

03:49:54.180 Couldn't you make that same exact...

03:49:56.320 Hold on, let me finish.

03:49:57.380 Couldn't you make that same exact argument about a woman who's 21?

03:50:00.540 She's engaging in a consensual relationship with, say, a guy who's 35.

03:50:05.020 Well, one thing is a...

03:50:06.700 Why is it that is grooming?

03:50:08.360 Because one's a profession, and one is a service, and one's not a service.

03:50:12.680 Like, what I provided is a service.

03:50:15.020 It's crazy to me.

03:50:15.960 Like, a lot of these girls would rather see an 18-year-old do OnlyFans and do porn than 1.00

03:50:19.900 be in a loving, caring relationship with a guy who's 10 years her senior.

03:50:23.440 Like, that's... 1.00

03:50:24.320 To me, it's fucking... 1.00

03:50:25.080 Blows my mind that so many women object to, like, age gap relationships. 1.00

03:50:29.140 Oh, he's 10 years older than you, even though you're an adult, and you can join the military 1.00

03:50:32.840 and go get fucking blasted, whatever it is. 0.99

03:50:35.040 You can sign legally binding contracts. 1.00

03:50:37.220 You can get six figures of college debt.

03:50:39.380 But if you're in a consensual, loving relationship with someone who's 10 years older than you,

03:50:44.160 then it's an issue.

03:50:45.120 I think 10 years is fine.

03:50:46.260 And I was more concerned...

03:50:47.580 I said 50 and 18.

03:50:49.860 That's why I was like, well, that's a little weird.

03:50:52.040 But, like, 10 years is fine.

03:50:54.100 Like, I have no issue with 10 years.

03:50:55.640 I mean, you're kind of walking back what you said, but I'm pretty sure earlier...

03:50:57.980 No, I said nothing about 10 years.

03:50:59.660 Earlier in the conversation, I'm sure you would have had an issue between 18 and 28.

03:51:03.480 No.

03:51:04.620 I specifically said 50.

03:51:05.860 18 and 35.

03:51:06.680 How about that?

03:51:07.280 No.

03:51:07.840 Really?

03:51:08.480 No.

03:51:08.780 I never said that.

03:51:10.020 I mean...

03:51:11.040 Run the footage.

03:51:12.000 But you said, okay, well, there was a virgin component, too.

03:51:15.880 You were like...

03:51:16.540 Yeah.

03:51:16.680 Well, that's completely different.

03:51:18.580 So, I feel like we're talking about so many different things at once.

03:51:22.580 I'm talking about, like, my work as a, like, dominatrix, whatever you want to call it,

03:51:27.080 versus, like, people dating.

03:51:29.620 And the two are just simply not comparable.

03:51:32.300 Maybe you think they are, but, I mean, someone who's experienced in both of these things are not comparable.

03:51:38.800 One's personal.

03:51:39.580 Well, it's just...

03:51:40.260 One's work.

03:51:40.860 I mean, it's just shocking to me, though, is, like, how many people are ready to defend, like, a woman at 18 starting in OnlyFans, but, like, if she...

03:51:47.300 I don't defend that.

03:51:48.120 I never did.

03:51:49.000 Well, okay, maybe not you, but, like, it's fine if a woman at 18 starts in OnlyFans, but if she wants to date a guy who's 30, oh, my God.

03:51:59.120 No.

03:51:59.520 I don't... 1.00

03:52:00.440 I mean, as long as the age of consent is there, I just think it's when a 50-year-old wants to fuck an 18-year-old virgin. 0.99

03:52:06.380 Sorry for the F word. 0.99

03:52:07.300 Okay, I mean...

03:52:11.680 Yeah, I don't know.

03:52:12.320 That's, like, or just, like, when I'd be with an 18, 20-year-old, that's, like, a huge difference between 10 years.

03:52:17.460 Hot take. I mean, hot take here. While, I mean, I don't... To me, it makes sense, like, a 50-year-old dating a 20-year-old.

03:52:30.260 Okay. I mean, why? Because that 50-year-old man...

03:52:35.220 If he can get it, like, here's the thing, very few 50-year-old men, as we just, I mean, we went around the table on this, like, most 50-year-old men are not going to be attractive to a woman who's 20 or 21.

03:52:45.880 I mean, if you're...

03:52:47.100 If he can... If he's still in good shape, whatever, he's wealthy, and he can secure a relationship with someone younger, go for it.

03:52:55.620 I... Yeah, for me, it's not really, like, attraction. I feel like older guys, like, 50, sometimes are actually really attractive to me.

03:53:02.660 I think it's more just, like, when I'm 50, they're, like, about to die, possibly.

03:53:08.380 Well, yeah, obviously, like...

03:53:10.580 Yeah, but yeah.

03:53:11.640 Sure, no, I get what you're saying. Like, let's say long-term relationship. Like, it actually is a fairly good argument, like, for a woman who's, like, wants a serious long-term relationship, wants marriage.

03:53:22.220 Like, if you're 21, and you're thinking about dating a 50-year-old by the... And if you want to have kids, like, he could be... Like, obviously, I think it's totally legit if you want to date someone around your age range so that you guys can grow together and, you know, like, that's actually probably a very strong argument to be made.

03:53:45.440 But, like, if that's what both the people want, maybe...

03:53:49.680 What if they have kids your age? That always creeped me out when I was... Especially when I was a stripper and whatnot. Like, when I would, you know, have sugar daddies who had daughters my age, I was like...

03:54:01.920 Yeah, I think that's very fetishy and weird.

03:54:03.580 It's just disgusting, yeah. I mean, I always say I got the money and it was fine, like, at the end of the day, but, like, I would never date them or take them seriously. Like, it's gross.

03:54:11.880 Yeah, but you're still condoning their behavior, you know, by entertaining them. Would you not say so?

03:54:18.120 I mean, sure, but, like, if it's not me, it would be somebody else, and I'm trying to get paid.

03:54:22.240 So, you're just going to deny accountability and be like, if it wasn't me, it would be somebody else.

03:54:26.740 I did not deny accountability. I just said that I think it's gross, and I still got paid.

03:54:31.060 It's gross, but it's fine because you got paid?

03:54:33.780 Yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%.

03:54:35.160 How is that fine?

03:54:37.060 So, you were experiencing something that you feel is gross, but it's okay because you got money from it.

03:54:42.880 What kind of fulfillment does that bring you?

03:54:46.700 My bank account?

03:54:48.240 Like, what do you mean?

03:54:49.460 I think money is way more fulfilling when it's hard-earned, let's just say that.

03:54:56.800 Oh, so you feel like sex work isn't a hard-working industry?

03:55:00.980 I'm not saying it's not a hard-working industry.

03:55:04.340 I just think it's a sad industry.

03:55:06.260 I'm not going to lie.

03:55:07.060 And that's fine.

03:55:07.760 I mean, you can feel that way, but you just said, oh, like, you feel like money is better.

03:55:11.960 Like, you feel better when you earn it, and you, like, work hard for it.

03:55:14.880 I mean, I worked very hard for my money when I was dancing.

03:55:18.560 So.

03:55:21.200 Maybe, okay, maybe hard-earned was the wrong term, but maybe getting that money.

03:55:28.420 I mean, maybe getting that money.

03:55:30.100 No, no, no, you can feel disgusted by it, and that's fine, but I didn't do it for you.

03:55:34.740 I did it for me.

03:55:36.120 But also, you also still feel disgusted by it.

03:55:38.600 You said that.

03:55:39.440 No, I feel like, no, I'm saying that, like, the guys who are into it, like, yeah, they're

03:55:42.980 gross, but I'm not, I'm fine with what I did.

03:55:45.380 So you're just going to take advantage of them. 0.86

03:55:47.380 Yeah, you.

03:55:48.320 Exactly. 1.00

03:55:48.900 Like, what the fuck? 1.00

03:55:49.840 But you're condoning their terrible behavior, so then they go and continue to do it, and you 1.00

03:55:54.700 are denying accountability by saying that they're going to go do it anyway.

03:55:57.300 So you're just going to make the problem worse by doing it as well.

03:55:59.720 You're basically advocating for them.

03:56:00.760 Let's go.

03:56:01.860 I am, yeah, and I think that it's, but you're like, it's so weird.

03:56:05.980 You're advocating for something that you think is gross.

03:56:08.500 Is that what you're saying?

03:56:09.640 Yeah, basically, yeah.

03:56:10.640 Because it gives you money.

03:56:11.780 It's gross for them.

03:56:12.280 It's not gross for me.

03:56:13.280 Yes, it is.

03:56:13.780 But it is still gross for you.

03:56:15.180 Because it's gross for them, it's still benefiting off of this sets back everybody, not just

03:56:20.540 you.

03:56:20.720 You are affecting everybody, even people who aren't participating in the same culture.

03:56:24.240 However, it sets back every woman around you, whether you think it does or not. 0.99

03:56:29.380 I mean, cry me a fucking river. 0.99

03:56:30.800 I don't care. 1.00

03:56:31.860 That's your response?

03:56:32.880 So you, yeah.

03:56:34.400 I mean, honestly, I mean, I don't know, I mean, I don't know, like, what you want, like,

03:56:37.920 like, you do mean to feel bad that these guys are awkwardly?

03:56:40.020 So let's just say, okay, so let's just say, but it sounds like you have a low moral standing,

03:56:45.240 and to be completely honest with you, this isn't a very intelligent take from you.

03:56:48.700 Yeah.

03:56:48.980 Yeah.

03:56:49.700 Okay.

03:56:50.500 Feel that way then.

03:56:52.360 And you're entitled to your opinion.

03:56:53.860 And so are you.

03:56:57.780 I'll just say about a year into moving to Los Angeles, I was at a Super Bowl party, and

03:57:05.080 a guy, like, definitely above 50, maybe 55 or so, just sat next to me and just started

03:57:11.040 counting hundreds.

03:57:12.020 And he was like, so what's it going to be weekly?

03:57:13.600 Um, so yeah, they do make it really easy, but yeah, then I didn't, I just said, I just

03:57:18.440 walked away, actually, I didn't say anything, because I was like, I was like 19, I think,

03:57:21.920 and I just walked away, but, um, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

03:57:24.700 I think that whatever.

03:57:25.500 It definitely goes both ways.

03:57:26.460 Whatever intention that you put out there, it will come back, like, in a sense where

03:57:29.980 if you're like, hey, this person's hurting, they went through a divorce, I'm going to

03:57:33.240 be there for them, I'm going to see them, but I'm going to genuinely see them, like,

03:57:36.940 I want to be right there.

03:57:38.160 But then if, if there is that, like, iniquity, I guess, it, it, it really, like, like, I

03:57:44.180 want to get over on, on them, what could happen is that could happen, come around in your life

03:57:49.020 somewhere, and you'll be like, how did that happen?

03:57:50.960 I, you know, I think just intention, I think if you put.

03:57:54.220 But if they come to me, how is that inequitable?

03:57:57.000 Because you're continuing to feed, right?

03:57:58.420 You're allowing it to happen.

03:57:59.920 I mean, you guys, we're talking about saying that, but I was, I was young.

03:58:03.540 But that's not an excuse, is that you allowed the sex work industry to pray into you as

03:58:09.860 a young girl, to then continue down the path, which enabled you to later in your life become

03:58:14.280 a stripper, instead of. 1.00

03:58:15.800 In my life, I became a stripper.

03:58:16.780 I was a stripper when I was 18 to 20.

03:58:19.320 Which is sad.

03:58:20.440 Which is sad.

03:58:21.360 That's what I'm getting at, is like, you were 18 years old.

03:58:25.520 Well, that's, that's why I hope that the sex work industry becomes more holistic over time.

03:58:29.860 I hope in the next 10 to 15 years, it really takes a change and, and it starts, things

03:58:35.000 start happening where people are like, holistic, spiritual sexuality.

03:58:40.340 I don't agree with that at all, because how are you going to take an industry of men paying

03:58:44.880 women to sleep with them and make it this healing experience, when in reality, I think 1.00

03:58:49.680 our society, more than anything, lacks God.

03:58:51.660 Obviously, that's my personal opinion, being a Christian.

03:58:54.480 I mean, there's so many people that are just so morally lost, where you said you started

03:58:58.220 stripping when you were 18 years old.

03:59:00.180 I don't think any woman should ever look to that and be like, this is super glorifying

03:59:04.040 in society, and this is the right thing for me to do.

03:59:06.940 And it makes me sad that women in our society are lied to so much that they turn to OnlyFans.

03:59:12.860 They turn to selling their bodies on the internet for the male gaze, profiting off of that and 0.89

03:59:16.920 continuing.

03:59:17.860 Not only it lowers their self-esteem, it's women mentally are becoming unhealth, unhealthier, 1.00

03:59:23.220 unhealthier, and higher body counts, and then less desirable as life goes on, to where

03:59:28.100 you're, essentially, women are ruining their lives. 1.00

03:59:30.320 I've never had an issue getting a boyfriend, so I don't know what you mean by less desirable.

03:59:34.500 I've had, this is my first year being single, I've been having a, had a boyfriend the entire

03:59:38.280 time, so I don't know what you're talking about.

03:59:39.900 What's the, what's the quality of the men you're dating?

03:59:41.700 I was going to say, what, what, what is the high value man are you with?

03:59:44.740 What's your definition of, see, see, I don't prescribe to that high value thing, I mean,

03:59:52.080 I just like someone that I get along with.

03:59:54.540 But don't you think, like, back to the dating scale, that there is something as a high value

03:59:58.300 woman, that there are women that are more valuable in the dating sphere, so then there's 1.00

04:00:02.420 also men that are more valuable?

04:00:04.340 I mean, I, I guess, but not, not person to person.

04:00:08.360 I mean, in general, people tend to date.

04:00:11.580 Brandon Mills donated $100.

04:00:13.620 Champagne poppy.

04:00:15.040 The only time I would ever pay for someone like you is donating a grand for Brian to

04:00:19.280 kick you off the show for this sad mindset. 0.99

04:00:22.260 You're promoting a disgusting lifestyle. 0.90

04:00:24.560 Oh, wow, they're going in.

04:00:25.940 I never promoted it, I'm literally just talking about my experience.

04:00:30.940 I never said that this was the right choice, I said that I'm okay with it, that I'm not ashamed

04:00:35.300 of what I've done, and that's pretty much, like, where I left it.

04:00:38.300 Well, you were promoting older men fetish, fetishes, fetishizing. 0.99

04:00:42.460 Fetishizing women who are the age of their children. 1.00

04:00:47.600 Because I took the money? 0.88

04:00:48.680 No, I literally said that I thought it was gross, but I took the money.

04:00:55.320 Like, what, like, what does that have to do?

04:00:56.680 You are allowing the behavior.

04:00:58.500 It's like a bouncer at the bar being like, oh, I'm not supposed to let you in, but you're

04:01:06.160 going to pay me, but I'm going to let you in.

04:01:07.500 But it's not right.

04:01:08.340 But that's what I was there for.

04:01:09.960 Because you're acknowledging the behavior.

04:01:11.000 That's what you were there for?

04:01:12.420 To promote men fetishizing younger women that are the age of their children?

04:01:18.280 Acknowledging?

04:01:18.440 It was literally my job.

04:01:20.240 You didn't have to be there if you didn't want the men to come to you and do that.

04:01:23.860 You didn't have to be a stripper. 1.00

04:01:25.980 And on top of that, you didn't have to start an outside work relationship with this man

04:01:30.840 where it was a monetary gain for you.

04:01:36.440 If you had an 18-year-old girl sitting in front of you and asking, hey, I want to get 1.00

04:01:40.680 into the stripping industry because I really am trying to chase that bag, would you encourage

04:01:44.580 her to do that? 0.99

04:01:45.760 Honestly, at this point, no.

04:01:47.780 Only because ever since COVID happened, the industry has totally changed.

04:01:54.620 In what way?

04:01:55.100 In a good way or a bad way?

04:01:55.980 In a bad way.

04:01:57.140 The money's not how it used to be.

04:01:59.580 A lot of girls are... 1.00

04:02:01.740 So if the money was how it used to be in a young girl, it's not supposed to be.

04:02:04.980 Yes, I would.

04:02:05.680 Yeah, I would.

04:02:06.260 Okay, can I share my experience of my first time at a strip club, please?

04:02:10.620 As a what?

04:02:11.300 A strip club.

04:02:11.740 A strip club.

04:02:12.540 As a patron, right?

04:02:13.900 You came in as a patron?

04:02:14.900 Yeah.

04:02:15.200 Yeah.

04:02:15.420 Okay.

04:02:16.140 You were a stripper? 1.00

04:02:17.600 No, I was not the first one.

04:02:18.920 I was in her mid.

04:02:19.600 We went for her birthday after...

04:02:20.940 Wait, before you go into that really quick, Valdiv, you were gone when he said this.

04:02:27.980 He wants you to do a Captain Morgan pose.

04:02:29.900 Oh, yeah.

04:02:30.560 And then tell us about the strip club situation.

04:02:32.480 What is it?

04:02:33.200 Captain Morgan pose?

04:02:34.180 No, Stan, put your foot up on the chair.

04:02:36.480 I think it's the foot on the chair.

04:02:37.000 Like, you're conquering America right now.

04:02:38.880 Yeah.

04:02:39.240 Put your foot on the chair.

04:02:39.820 Yeah, there you go.

04:02:40.920 Yes, perfect.

04:02:42.140 Yeah.

04:02:42.400 All right, there you go.

04:02:44.240 There you go.

04:02:44.400 Thank you, thank you.

04:02:47.160 Your strip club experience.

04:02:48.340 Okay.

04:02:48.760 First off, I will say it was a lot of fun.

04:02:50.380 I'm not going to see you and be like, oh, my God, I'm sitting there.

04:02:52.800 Closer to the mic.

04:02:53.300 Oh, I'm so sorry.

04:02:53.900 Goodbye.

04:02:54.020 First of all, I would like to point out that I was not sitting there being like, oh, my

04:02:58.860 God, this is terrible.

04:02:59.900 Well, I was a little bit, but I mean, I did have a good time.

04:03:02.560 I did have fun.

04:03:03.140 But what I observed is that we came and we sat down and there were girls in the booth or section

04:03:13.380 or whatever.

04:03:14.160 They're really nice and stuff.

04:03:15.620 And we're having conversations.

04:03:16.420 And then as soon as the money comes out, they're just like in your face.

04:03:21.180 Like, you know how a strip club is. 1.00

04:03:23.440 And then after the money is all on the floor, they just immediately go and pick up the money.

04:03:27.160 And it's just it's almost like a robotic response.

04:03:30.900 And it's really sad to see that behavior for that money.

04:03:36.560 And then you after you do that, you literally go on the floor and you pick up the money.

04:03:40.500 And I cannot see how that can be empowering, fulfilling, make you feel good about yourself

04:03:47.520 because you are selling your body and that cannot feel good.

04:03:51.120 I can never I can never imagine myself doing that and feeling OK with myself.

04:03:55.780 Well, girl, that's fine.

04:03:57.960 You don't have to do that.

04:03:59.640 Like, I'm not telling you that you should do that.

04:04:01.440 Like, that's fine.

04:04:03.160 But you were saying I respect that.

04:04:04.720 No, I respect how you feel 100 percent.

04:04:08.360 OK, but you were saying that if a young a young girl came up to you and asked,

04:04:12.720 do you think this is worth the money?

04:04:14.280 You said if the money was like how it was before COVID, you would say yes.

04:04:18.960 Yeah, if she if that's what she wanted to do.

04:04:22.140 Yes, I don't think that anyone wouldn't you ask anybody should do anything that they feel uncomfortable with.

04:04:27.820 Like the way that you described it, I would never want you to do that.

04:04:31.120 Like, that would be horrible.

04:04:32.060 But also the industry completely lies.

04:04:33.880 It's sometimes some girls are cut out for it. 1.00

04:04:36.700 Some are.

04:04:37.200 And that's fine.

04:04:38.420 Like, psychologically, psychologically, if you look at it from a purely scientific perspective.

04:04:44.020 A woman who is willing to or has convinced themselves that those things are fulfilling, there is something fundamentally incorrect. 1.00

04:04:58.780 There is I don't know a better word to use other than damage or trauma or something that induces that in them.

04:05:05.600 And I if you disagree with me, it's like it's I'm just telling you, it's purely scientific that you can look at any study that just let's say promiscuity is a general term.

04:05:14.520 It signifies being a stripper isn't being promiscuous. 0.91

04:05:18.840 No 18 year old wakes up one day and says, I'm going to take off my clothes and be a stripper for money. 0.98

04:05:23.440 Like, that's just not reality.

04:05:25.420 And it is a psychological fact that there is damage there and trauma that these women who are doing this, it feels like a last resort option for a lot of women because they have nothing else that they feel like that they can fall back on.

04:05:38.340 And then even tying this to trafficking, even like there's so that it is a gateway going on to what you said.

04:05:46.200 I'm sorry. 0.88

04:05:47.040 I'm just saying, how is I really feel you guys and I see and I I hear you like you're coming from a certain point of view, but like it's it's really ignorant. 0.63

04:05:56.220 Like you guys really don't know anything about women who do sex work. 0.97

04:05:59.280 Well, maybe you do. 1.00

04:06:00.640 Ariel, you just were called ignorant. 0.98

04:06:02.840 Would you like to respond to that? 0.98

04:06:04.320 I feel we're not being ignorant.

04:06:06.180 We're just considering your opinions because you keep saying, oh, I was disgusted, but those were the best days of my life.

04:06:11.680 I'm so glad I got over it.

04:06:13.200 But I like, yeah, you're just pretty much kind of reiterating your arguments.

04:06:17.260 So we're just pretty much every woman that I've met and that does sex work. 0.99

04:06:22.800 Either they acknowledge that it's wrong and they want to stop or they are they have a lot of trauma.

04:06:31.640 They have a lot of trauma that they need to address.

04:06:33.680 I think that going back to what you said when you said, oh, if an 18 year old said, hey, I'm going to get this bag.

04:06:39.860 It's like that was like I can't have kids.

04:06:41.220 But if I did and that was my 18 year old and I said, I would say, get the bag like.

04:06:48.140 So are you only doing it for the money?

04:06:50.580 Do you care about these men and their emotional state when you're with them?

04:06:53.500 Like, do you care like genuinely about them?

04:06:55.640 Do you care about those relationships that you build?

04:06:57.380 Because the relationships that you have, you're going to learn how to discard people.

04:07:00.180 And when you learn how to discard people, you're not going to have good relationships in your life.

04:07:03.600 So if you are going to be a dancer, do you genuinely care about people and want to maybe make connections and like have a good like that type of relationship?

04:07:12.260 Or are you just trying to learn how to discard?

04:07:14.840 And that's a good response.

04:07:16.040 Because you're actually considering her value and not just saying it's all for the money.

04:07:20.100 I was a stripper and I like to pole dance.

04:07:22.300 I like putting on a performance.

04:07:24.000 I mean, it was a huge part of my life.

04:07:26.120 I mean, like, I love the glamour.

04:07:28.540 I love, like, all aspects of it. 0.98

04:07:32.320 Yeah, every once in a while, I get a gross 50-year-old guy that I had to fucking give a lap dance to. 1.00

04:07:37.620 But it wasn't that big of a fucking deal because it was worth it at the end of the day. 0.99

04:07:41.000 You can enjoy pole dancing without stripping. 0.98

04:07:44.900 We know people who do pole dancing as an art.

04:07:47.500 Like, what do you mean?

04:07:48.540 We know people who do pole dancing as a dance form, like an art.

04:07:51.900 Like you practice in a studio, not people throwing money at you.

04:07:54.300 I learned in the strip club and I like the money aspect.

04:07:56.800 Like, what do you mean?

04:07:57.520 I literally used to get high off of performing on stage.

04:08:01.100 Getting money.

04:08:02.420 That's concerning.

04:08:03.760 And the performance aspect.

04:08:05.280 Like, what do you mean?

04:08:06.240 Like, there would be, like, I've worked in some of the biggest clubs in the country.

04:08:10.020 There's a lot of other ways to perform.

04:08:12.900 Everything you're saying is getting more and more concerning.

04:08:15.760 What?

04:08:17.100 Psychologically.

04:08:18.540 Wait.

04:08:18.980 Y'all are just hella judgmental.

04:08:20.640 And whatever.

04:08:21.100 That's fine.

04:08:22.280 That is fine.

04:08:23.120 It's fine.

04:08:23.580 I'm okay with it.

04:08:24.460 It's fine.

04:08:25.220 It's fine.

04:08:25.540 Yeah, it's fine.

04:08:26.380 It's fine. 0.94

04:08:27.100 I'm ignorant and it's fine. 0.56

04:08:29.020 Totally fine. 0.91

04:08:29.620 I'll say.

04:08:30.480 Y'all are, like, you're way younger than me.

04:08:32.840 Like, you don't even know what you're talking about half the time.

04:08:34.740 I'll say it's fine.

04:08:35.580 Okay.

04:08:36.000 So now because we are younger than you, we don't know what we're talking about.

04:08:39.360 You're like my little brother's age. 1.00

04:08:40.940 Dead ass. 1.00

04:08:42.000 Wait. 1.00

04:08:42.280 Okay.

04:08:42.720 Hold on.

04:08:43.240 Let me come in here really quick.

04:08:44.560 You had mentioned at one point, because I think it came into, I forgot precisely what

04:08:50.600 the wording was, but you said that you don't have any trouble finding boyfriends.

04:08:56.220 Now, perhaps that's, congratulations.

04:08:58.480 Good for you.

04:09:00.460 You don't think there, like, it does limit your dating pool, though, that you're involved

04:09:05.340 in sex work.

04:09:05.980 Do you not agree?

04:09:06.960 I'm not even involved anymore, but yes, I mean, I'm sure.

04:09:10.240 Well, even, even that you were involved in the past.

04:09:11.720 No, and you know what? 1.00

04:09:12.220 I'm sure it does, but in a way, it kind of, it, it, um, filters out, like, the assholes. 0.99

04:09:17.340 I would never want to be with a guy that cares about that, or cares about body count. 0.98

04:09:21.080 Like, and I've never had a guy really care that much about any of it.

04:09:26.360 So don't you think those guys maybe care more about that, like, they care about it because

04:09:30.540 they know how much it matters?

04:09:32.420 No, I'm saying that they don't care.

04:09:33.940 Like, I've never had a guy care about that.

04:09:35.100 Do you want kids?

04:09:36.620 Um, not sure.

04:09:39.240 Do you want to get married?

04:09:40.400 Do you want to have a life partner?

04:09:42.060 Um, yeah, I don't know.

04:09:44.760 Maybe I, yeah, I don't know yet.

04:09:47.600 Because, I mean, I, I can speak a bit from the guy's perspective.

04:09:50.660 Like, there are definitely guys out there that when it comes to casual sex or friends

04:09:55.600 with benefits, maybe even a relationship, maybe they might entertain a girl with, you

04:10:01.600 know, a past like that.

04:10:02.500 But I think when it comes to marriage and kids, a lot of men are going to take pause

04:10:06.820 with someone who's been involved with that sort of thing.

04:10:09.220 I've ended both of my relationships.

04:10:11.420 It was me that ended it.

04:10:12.700 Like, I've never, like, had an issue.

04:10:14.480 Like, I could have, honestly, like, I could have been married with kids right now, but I

04:10:18.600 chose not to.

04:10:19.020 Can I ask why you ended them?

04:10:21.280 Um, honestly, that's, I, I have certain people watching this.

04:10:28.020 I don't really want to go into that.

04:10:29.680 Well, let's, uh, really quick.

04:10:31.060 Just, I'm going to try to move things here along a little bit just to finally, last thing

04:10:35.900 on the whole, uh, one sec, one sec guys.

04:10:38.520 Um, on the whole virgin age gap thing, I would just, last thing it, for men, it comes down

04:10:46.020 to hardwired attraction traits.

04:10:47.680 It's rooted in biology and evolution.

04:10:50.160 It really ultimately comes down to fertility. 0.98

04:10:52.780 There's a limited fertility window that women have. 1.00

04:10:56.500 So men are going to skew towards being attracted to more younger women.

04:11:00.920 Younger women are more fertile. 0.99

04:11:02.960 It's hardwired attraction triggers, attraction traits in the same way that women are attracted 1.00

04:11:07.640 to tall men.

04:11:08.660 That's a hardwired evolution thing because men who are, you're, do you disagree about 0.91

04:11:13.880 the tall thing?

04:11:15.940 You're kind of shaking your head.

04:11:17.040 I don't know if you were just moving your head.

04:11:19.000 But look, oh, okay.

04:11:21.460 Nevermind then.

04:11:22.060 Well, in the same way that women like tall men, it's hardwired attraction trigger because 0.71

04:11:27.580 a guy who's tall, a guy who's physically large or muscular, whatever it may be, he's more

04:11:32.920 capable of protecting you.

04:11:34.480 So that's one of the reasons why women are attracted to tall men.

04:11:37.920 No, I mean, I understand the evolutionary psychology thing.

04:11:41.260 And that's, I mean, that's like one theory.

04:11:42.740 No, I mean, I just, well, let's move on from that.

04:11:44.960 Theory?

04:11:45.940 Wait, what?

04:11:46.780 Psychology is a theory.

04:11:48.080 So science is a theory.

04:11:48.860 I said evolutionary psychology is, yeah, there's certain theories about how, what he was talking

04:11:54.440 about.

04:11:54.640 That's a theory.

04:11:55.680 We are literally put on this earth to do one thing and it is to make more of us.

04:11:59.900 That is our biology.

04:12:01.120 Gains.

04:12:01.380 To get gains.

04:12:02.080 Right.

04:12:02.380 Exactly.

04:12:02.920 And that.

04:12:03.140 Go to the gym.

04:12:04.160 Lift weights.

04:12:04.920 I didn't say that.

04:12:05.860 It wasn't a thing.

04:12:06.980 Okay.

04:12:07.200 I'll say I'm like basically only attracted to men that are older than me.

04:12:12.240 So I think there is like something maybe biologically there.

04:12:15.360 Oh, for sure.

04:12:16.260 Yeah.

04:12:16.440 I mean, I am attracted to a big, tall man because I feel like he can protect me.

04:12:20.980 It's that simple.

04:12:23.400 Biologically built in, we are attracted to different people and that makes sense.

04:12:26.660 Yeah.

04:12:26.820 My boyfriend's older than me, bigger than me, et cetera, et cetera.

04:12:30.000 Yeah.

04:12:31.520 And, okay, so we won't linger too long on that, but we might have a video that's semi-related

04:12:38.160 to it that can really hammer it home.

04:12:39.840 Body count, we've been talking about body count all night.

04:12:43.820 Should body count matter?

04:12:44.700 You said no.

04:12:45.960 Yes.

04:12:46.440 Yes.

04:12:47.980 For a guy?

04:12:49.700 Or for me or for a woman?

04:12:50.960 Here, here's a better question.

04:12:52.300 Do you object to men caring about women's body count?

04:12:55.140 No.

04:12:55.760 I don't.

04:12:57.000 No, I don't object to that.

04:12:58.640 I think it's 100% couple by couple.

04:13:01.060 Yeah.

04:13:01.260 Like person by person.

04:13:02.200 Person, yeah.

04:13:02.880 It matters, point blank, period.

04:13:05.100 I don't object.

04:13:06.260 Okay.

04:13:06.980 Just curious, what's everyone's body count?

04:13:09.300 I think you said zero, right?

04:13:10.660 Yeah, zero.

04:13:11.360 I'm a virgin.

04:13:11.780 I don't know.

04:13:13.380 If you had to like give a range.

04:13:16.740 Like 30, 30.

04:13:17.300 30, 40?

04:13:20.340 Like 30, yeah.

04:13:22.000 30, but between 30 and 40 maybe, yeah.

04:13:23.940 40, 50, maybe 50.

04:13:25.200 Yeah.

04:13:25.720 Sometimes, maybe 60 if you count the thing.

04:13:27.920 Maybe like 4,000, how about that?

04:13:29.840 4,000.

04:13:30.260 Does that make you happy?

04:13:31.460 Hold on.

04:13:32.760 It's over 9,000!

04:13:35.000 Exactly.

04:13:35.860 Okay.

04:13:37.040 Body count.

04:13:37.940 I've been in the business a long time.

04:13:39.700 What do you think?

04:13:40.420 What do you think?

04:13:43.620 I can only remember.

04:13:45.140 Do the math.

04:13:46.460 I don't know.

04:13:47.840 I don't.

04:13:49.180 I can only remember the eight that had a terrible.

04:13:51.760 Would you say it's like triple digits or less than that?

04:13:56.280 Like more than 100?

04:13:58.360 Yeah.

04:13:58.840 I mean, I would think so after all those years.

04:14:02.080 Yeah.

04:14:02.260 I think, I think that.

04:14:03.900 You think more than 100?

04:14:05.180 Yeah.

04:14:05.560 More than 1,000?

04:14:07.180 I don't, I don't know about that.

04:14:09.820 I don't, I don't think that, I don't think that I, when I was younger I didn't see as many people

04:14:15.640 because I think my mentality was more the survival.

04:14:19.380 But now that I have gotten into the spiritual sexuality over the past two years, I have seen more.

04:14:26.000 And I have seen more seeking that.

04:14:28.040 Seen more men?

04:14:29.680 Yes.

04:14:30.540 It's about doubled since I started the spiritual sexuality.

04:14:33.600 Before I think it was just, I was just grabbing.

04:14:36.180 I didn't know.

04:14:37.300 I don't know.

04:14:38.680 I think that the, but that's why I really like that because I'm going to continue going to these retreats.

04:14:43.780 Wait, at what age did you first turn a trick?

04:14:48.480 Is that the terminology?

04:14:50.400 Have a John?

04:14:51.340 I don't know what it's called.

04:14:51.980 My first experience going, one of those relationships, yeah.

04:14:58.900 Those, those, I, I was 21.

04:15:06.180 21.

04:15:06.920 And I remember I was a dancer and I remember it was very, when a man called me pretty, I, I never got that younger.

04:15:14.580 And this was before I had plastic surgery.

04:15:16.420 So it was a very big thing for me.

04:15:17.940 And here I'm 21.

04:15:18.960 I'm like, I'm pretty?

04:15:20.000 Like, you think I'm pretty?

04:15:20.940 Like, great.

04:15:22.000 And so I think that it took so little to get me out of the club until, you know, the time where there was something that happened.

04:15:29.620 And that's when I was like, like, these guys can have certain intentions and you got to be in the right mental state.

04:15:35.480 And I'd been drinking.

04:15:36.580 I, you know, used substances.

04:15:39.360 And, and then finally, when I got into the work at the, the brothel, that's when things started to kind of get better for me.

04:15:50.900 Like, I started to see things in a different way and not in survival.

04:15:54.620 It was like, oh, this is a vacation for them.

04:15:56.760 Like, this is a vacation, husbands and wives come to see me.

04:15:59.800 I see a lot of them.

04:16:01.140 And many are interested in the sexual healing and for themselves and their marriages.

04:16:05.000 And that's why on September, I have going to a week-long retreat.

04:16:08.540 We can't have our phones.

04:16:09.620 I'm literally just going to be camping out in the middle of nowhere in San Diego.

04:16:13.600 And I don't know what we're going to learn there, but.

04:16:16.720 Cool.

04:16:17.300 Yeah.

04:16:17.620 So I'm excited.

04:16:19.560 Mind blown.

04:16:21.420 Yeah.

04:16:21.780 So I'm ready.

04:16:22.480 Wait, so, okay, you said the first time you did pay to play, 21.

04:16:29.180 I was 21.

04:16:30.300 What was the situation with the parents like?

04:16:34.020 My father was in the military, so he was gone most of the time.

04:16:38.200 Did your parents divorce?

04:16:39.680 Yes.

04:16:40.060 Okay.

04:16:40.540 Gotcha.

04:16:41.140 And my mother was a single mother, so she was very stressed financially.

04:16:45.580 Finances were difficult?

04:16:47.700 Okay.

04:16:47.920 They're very glorified, too.

04:16:49.080 I think in homes.

04:16:49.740 That's a big reason why a lot of people will get into doing that kind of work.

04:16:53.380 It is.

04:16:54.280 You know, fine.

04:16:54.960 Because you can make quick money.

04:16:57.080 You can.

04:16:57.760 And you can make good money.

04:16:58.980 Yeah.

04:16:59.920 Fast money comes with slow problems.

04:17:02.780 Mm-hmm.

04:17:03.540 And, yeah, I remember my mom, when, you know, when we were growing up, money was just like,

04:17:09.700 it was very glorified because we didn't have it.

04:17:11.980 Wait, did your mom also do pay to play? 0.99

04:17:14.700 I don't.

04:17:15.300 Did she do?

04:17:16.080 No, she didn't.

04:17:16.780 She worked at a company for like several years.

04:17:18.660 She worked at a company.

04:17:19.780 She was a police officer, too.

04:17:20.920 She worked missing persons, so that's why she had a big problem with me being a sex worker. 0.99

04:17:25.440 She had to arrest you once.

04:17:26.740 No, no.

04:17:27.260 She worked missing persons.

04:17:28.760 Yeah.

04:17:28.840 And she, seeing what happened to those girls, she would be the one that called the parents

04:17:35.220 if they found a body.

04:17:36.980 That was my mom. 0.98

04:17:37.600 Good time, you see.

04:17:37.760 Yeah.

04:17:38.100 And so, not to trauma dump and do all that, but she was very scared for me when I got

04:17:42.800 into that industry, but when I did start working at the brothel, she kind of like eased up a 0.91

04:17:47.460 little bit.

04:17:47.880 Like, okay, this is illegal.

04:17:49.360 Like, I had to, you have to pass like security.

04:17:51.560 It's pretty, you have to get a license, so it's, you know, it's pretty, you know, you

04:17:56.480 do got to pay taxes on it, too.

04:17:58.120 It's, they taxed that to you, but it's much better than what it was.

04:18:03.940 So, just on the body count thing, in the hundreds?

04:18:08.160 I would.

04:18:08.640 Well, you said it was over 100.

04:18:09.880 Do you think it's, what, 500 plus or?

04:18:11.760 I would say maybe, yeah.

04:18:13.860 Yeah.

04:18:14.120 I mean, I guess 365 days a year, I wasn't doing somebody every day.

04:18:20.240 I wasn't doing, we usually do tours, so it's like two weeks out of each year, so I guess

04:18:24.680 if you calculate.

04:18:26.520 Yeah, let's do the math.

04:18:27.780 I guess.

04:18:28.720 So.

04:18:29.900 Oh, my God.

04:18:30.740 How many, okay, you said one a day, 365 days a year.

04:18:35.160 It wasn't one a day for 360.

04:18:37.080 Let's say 300.

04:18:39.120 Three, I mean, maybe.

04:18:40.660 Well, no, 300, in a year, 300 days, you were active.

04:18:45.800 Would you say that's?

04:18:46.940 I would say less than that, less, because there's filtering days.

04:18:49.440 I call them filtering days.

04:18:50.640 Filtering.

04:18:51.020 Would you say 200 in a year is within the realm of possibility?

04:18:55.540 It's within the realm of a possibility, yeah.

04:18:58.600 Okay.

04:18:59.420 But definitely not 365.

04:19:01.000 That won't.

04:19:01.440 Sure.

04:19:01.920 But you said you were active since you were 21.

04:19:04.620 I was active since 21, yeah.

04:19:07.220 So possibly.

04:19:07.800 Safe to say over 1,000?

04:19:08.840 I would say that it was harder for me to get people to want.

04:19:14.380 It was few and far between before I started doing the sexual healing.

04:19:19.480 That, those.

04:19:20.080 It was few and far between.

04:19:20.860 It was very hard for me to get those ones.

04:19:23.440 I got them sometimes, but I don't know.

04:19:26.420 There was something about that that made it.

04:19:27.700 Did you ever hustle?

04:19:28.920 I did.

04:19:29.760 And you know what?

04:19:30.240 I had to stop being.

04:19:31.480 I did, and I did, I was, I remember I was so sad because I didn't understand about the

04:19:40.000 filtering and the emotions and how we take on their emotions, and we need those days

04:19:43.320 to recuperate.

04:19:44.160 We need those days to, we need to be going in with the right intentions, in a sense.

04:19:50.140 And for me, I wasn't at first, and I remember stopping sex work for, I think, an entire

04:19:57.160 year, and I just danced purely because I didn't understand it.

04:20:00.880 But then I started again, but then finally back there.

04:20:04.760 I got, now I understand.

04:20:07.360 I understand now.

04:20:08.960 I was coming from a place of, like you said, despair.

04:20:11.320 Like I was trying to grab and get something.

04:20:13.580 But now I'm coming from a place of empowerment where I'm like, you know what?

04:20:17.680 I want to do this.

04:20:18.600 I choose to do this, and I want to learn more about it.

04:20:21.300 And that's why I'm quite fascinated with the Kabbalah, because they talk about a lot

04:20:25.480 of that.

04:20:26.880 Well, I mean, you strike me as someone, like, you're very articulate, I think.

04:20:35.720 Like, I don't know.

04:20:37.460 I don't want to be preachy here.

04:20:39.920 But, I mean, it occurs to me while talking to you, you seem like an intelligent person.

04:20:44.420 You're fairly articulate.

04:20:47.720 Like, you're a good-looking woman. 1.00

04:20:52.340 Do you think things could have gone a different path?

04:20:55.900 Or, I mean?

04:20:57.620 I, you know, I don't think so.

04:21:00.380 But what I do think is there is this desire in me to entertain families one day.

04:21:05.720 And I know that that sounds totally outlandish.

04:21:07.480 But, hey, Maya Angelou worked at a brothel. 1.00

04:21:09.160 I believe she was a brothel madame. 0.91

04:21:12.160 And I, you know, I look at people like that, and I say, you know what?

04:21:16.120 She can do it.

04:21:16.840 Maybe I can.

04:21:17.140 On a scale of one to ten.

04:21:18.700 Yes.

04:21:19.160 Yes. 1.00

04:21:20.140 How crazy are you? 0.99

04:21:21.280 I'm pretty crazy. 1.00

04:21:23.040 Are you? 0.94

04:21:23.820 I'm pretty crazy, Brian. 0.67

04:21:26.260 Yeah?

04:21:26.740 I'm pretty crazy.

04:21:27.420 But, you know, I think. 0.54

04:21:28.120 You wouldn't mean by crazy.

04:21:29.120 I think, like, crazy in a sense where, like, I think that.

04:21:33.440 That's kind of why, like, the Joker, too.

04:21:34.960 Is, like, he's just so wild.

04:21:36.380 And he just.

04:21:36.840 Have you ever slashed?

04:21:37.840 Oh, sorry, sorry.

04:21:38.380 Keep going.

04:21:39.380 No, I haven't done that.

04:21:40.860 I've gotten my tire slashed one time.

04:21:43.020 I woke up, and my car was keyed, and my tire was slashed.

04:21:45.220 But I wasn't dating anyone.

04:21:46.260 I think it was, like.

04:21:46.880 Maybe another girl at the club. 1.00

04:21:48.020 I don't know what.

04:21:48.600 I don't know what it was.

04:21:49.320 It was so weird.

04:21:50.040 I'm like, who's slashing her?

04:21:51.420 Doesn't it get pretty catty in strip clubs between some of the chicks? 1.00

04:21:54.260 It does.

04:21:54.980 And it's like, you know, they give mad if they go, oh, like, you know, my money.

04:21:58.620 I missed out.

04:21:59.340 And it's like, no, you didn't.

04:22:00.780 Because his intention wasn't with you.

04:22:02.380 So have you ever slashed a guy's tires?

04:22:04.800 No.

04:22:05.360 Not like that.

04:22:07.300 I think there's two types of crazy.

04:22:08.680 There's people that take it out on others and people that take it out on themselves.

04:22:11.800 Which one are you?

04:22:12.560 I was more the latter until I started really.

04:22:15.240 I was more the latter where I would take everything out on myself.

04:22:17.900 I remember I'd mark my hand.

04:22:19.100 Not, like, you know, do any of that.

04:22:21.300 But I would tally mistakes that I made in the day with, like, a pen.

04:22:24.780 And I'd be like, I made a mistake.

04:22:26.840 I shouldn't have.

04:22:27.720 And I would think about conversations where I'm like, I should have said this to them.

04:22:31.040 And I'd beat myself up about it.

04:22:32.800 But then I realized, like, I've got to be kinder to myself for people to be kinder to me.

04:22:37.180 And that's a lot of therapy.

04:22:40.000 All right.

04:22:40.540 Well, we'll keep going.

04:22:41.720 Body count?

04:22:42.660 Yeah.

04:22:43.760 I have one body, but it only happened that one time.

04:22:46.980 It was a one-night stand?

04:22:49.220 No.

04:22:49.720 It wasn't a one-night stand.

04:22:50.920 It was, I mean, I knew him somewhat well.

04:22:53.980 Wait, did you tell this story?

04:22:55.600 No, I didn't tell this story.

04:22:56.520 The one guy?

04:22:57.200 This is, no, this is not the guy that I dated for four days.

04:23:01.480 Wait, so, like, you only hooked up one time?

04:23:05.900 Well, we, what do you mean by hooking up?

04:23:08.420 You mean...

04:23:09.060 Wait, you said, like, you had sex only one time?

04:23:12.660 Yes.

04:23:14.300 And you have one body?

04:23:15.540 Yes.

04:23:18.500 What happened?

04:23:19.360 What's the story there?

04:23:20.280 What's the story?

04:23:21.100 What's the story?

04:23:21.840 Well, I don't even really, like...

04:23:25.140 No.

04:23:27.160 No, no, no, no, no, no.

04:23:28.620 This was actually when I was 16, almost 17.

04:23:34.520 I don't really remember my logic behind it, but I think it was almost something like a...

04:23:44.320 Ugh, I hate to say this, but, like, everyone's doing it.

04:23:49.680 I feel like you should have to talk about it if you don't want to.

04:23:51.900 It's not, no, I'm not uncomfortable talking about it.

04:23:54.360 I just genuinely, I don't really remember, because it was so long ago.

04:23:58.700 But, basically, it happened once, and I guess we were planning on hanging out again, but it just never happened.

04:24:05.540 And, so, yeah, that's really it.

04:24:07.940 Like, did he ghost you, or did you lose interest, or?

04:24:14.020 Um, it was, like, I mean, I would say almost, like, he ghosted me, sure.

04:24:22.200 But, we, yeah, we were planning on hanging out again, and then...

04:24:28.640 Did he play you?

04:24:29.960 What do you mean, did he play you?

04:24:30.460 Like, did he play you?

04:24:31.480 Like, he was, he was, uh...

04:24:33.340 Sure, yeah.

04:24:35.220 Hey, I mean, it happens.

04:24:36.840 Oh, yeah.

04:24:37.760 But, basically, like, he was kind of feigning, like, he was interested, but then, like, you guys finally hook up, and then...

04:24:45.420 Because a lot of guys will be like, oh, yeah, like, I want a relationship, whatever.

04:24:48.780 And maybe that wasn't the case.

04:24:49.380 I mean, he never said he wanted a relationship, but...

04:24:51.980 Okay, so he didn't play you like that, but...

04:24:53.540 Yeah.

04:24:54.440 I'm not gonna, well, I'm not gonna say I didn't pay him as a villain, but sure, you could say that.

04:24:58.080 Okay.

04:24:59.400 Um, all right.

04:25:02.100 Good times.

04:25:03.140 Strange story.

04:25:03.720 Or bad times.

04:25:04.240 Seems kind of scummy of him, though.

04:25:05.500 I don't think it's that strange.

04:25:08.400 I guess, yeah.

04:25:09.620 It's not good.

04:25:10.340 It's not...

04:25:10.820 I mean, no, I'm perfectly fine.

04:25:13.140 Yeah.

04:25:13.680 Well, yeah, I mean, you guys only hung out that one time, I guess.

04:25:16.440 Yeah, it's...

04:25:16.940 Well, no, we had hung out...

04:25:18.440 I had known him for, like, months.

04:25:20.460 Yeah, yeah.

04:25:20.860 We had hung out before, yeah.

04:25:22.780 Oh, so you liked him?

04:25:24.240 No.

04:25:24.520 You were crushing...

04:25:25.000 Oh, no.

04:25:25.940 You were friends?

04:25:26.260 Wait, you slept with him, but you didn't like... 0.91

04:25:27.660 You didn't like him?

04:25:28.020 Well, I don't...

04:25:30.280 Like, he was definitely very...

04:25:31.580 I thought...

04:25:31.980 I found him very attractive.

04:25:32.840 Very attractive, okay.

04:25:33.860 But I didn't expect to date him after that.

04:25:37.060 Was it, like, at a party or something, or...

04:25:39.240 No.

04:25:40.020 Did it happen kind of, like, spontaneously type thing, or...

04:25:43.720 Yeah.

04:25:45.280 It was...

04:25:45.840 I mean, I guess it was spontaneous.

04:25:50.060 It was just, like, a...

04:25:51.040 I guess a whatever moment for me.

04:25:53.080 You guys were just chilling at the pad, and then you're, like...

04:25:55.360 Well, no, we had went out to dinner before and stuff, but...

04:25:59.120 And I think back then, in my eyes, it was, like, as long as it was a good experience,

04:26:05.420 you know, we had a good night, whatever...

04:26:06.720 It wasn't a bad way to lose it.

04:26:12.700 Were you kind of bummed that he didn't?

04:26:14.160 Like, you were like, hey, like, I'm kind of bummed he didn't...

04:26:16.040 No.

04:26:16.560 Okay.

04:26:16.700 I wasn't bummed that he didn't like me, but I did notice that after I did it, I felt like

04:26:21.240 I had to grow up.

04:26:23.000 You know?

04:26:23.520 Okay.

04:26:23.640 Because I was like, I did this, and I was like...

04:26:25.980 Yeah.

04:26:26.380 Do you regret it?

04:26:27.400 I don't...

04:26:29.720 I wouldn't say I regret it, because I don't think...

04:26:32.440 Like, I still have my dignity, I still respect myself a lot, and it's not like I went and

04:26:37.200 slept around after.

04:26:39.320 I would say it's something that does not affect me at all to this day, but, I mean, it's something

04:26:45.920 that happened.

04:26:46.560 I don't really sit here and be like, I regret it, you know?

04:26:48.800 Sure.

04:26:49.380 It happened.

04:26:50.100 It is what it is.

04:26:50.720 Makes sense.

04:26:51.560 What about you?

04:26:52.000 Um, well, so I lost my V really young to a 17-year-old.

04:26:58.000 Okay, let's not talk about that.

04:26:59.780 Okay, okay, okay.

04:27:00.880 Um, but yeah, so 14.

04:27:03.360 I counted for this show.

04:27:05.220 I never really thought to even count or anything, actually.

04:27:08.180 I'm young, but...

04:27:09.660 More gone?

04:27:10.880 So, I do think body count matters, so I'm not going to share, because I think it's something

04:27:15.120 that should be intimate between you and your future partner.

04:27:18.820 Sure.

04:27:19.260 But you said that it's, you did, it's at least one, correct?

04:27:23.080 Yes, I have engaged in horticulture in college and have done it before.

04:27:27.240 That's totally fine.

04:27:27.940 Yes.

04:27:29.180 Um, and Matt, do you see something?

04:27:32.840 I just like answering this question, but everyone knows, so I'm already going to say,

04:27:37.080 I'll own up to it.

04:27:39.040 It's eight, but I feel like I was at, like, a time in my life where I was very sucked into

04:27:43.260 the, like, the male validation thing that, like, everyone was doing it, so you had to do

04:27:48.040 it, and I wanted to say, like, I'm not making excuses for myself, obviously, I'm going to

04:27:51.700 own up to it.

04:27:52.460 You were brainwashed.

04:27:53.380 But I was brainwashed, and I feel like as I've grown, like, I, I've developed more values

04:27:59.700 and morals and everything like that, and at the time, I, like, again, I'm not, I don't 0.92

04:28:05.620 want to make excuses for myself because I don't want to sound, like, stupid, but, like, 0.83

04:28:09.920 I didn't have anyone to tell me, like, it was wrong. 0.98

04:28:12.200 Like, I didn't have a mother to tell me, like, oh, like, this is wrong, blah, blah,

04:28:15.660 like, my father was a little bit absent, like, I had no one to really guide me in the right

04:28:19.360 way to do that, and if I could go back and redo it, I would, but it's eight, and it's going

04:28:25.920 to be eight for the rest of my life, so.

04:28:27.460 Being 18 and saying that is just so wise because I think there's so many girls now who are 18,

04:28:32.260 19, 20, 21, who are so sold that same lie of hookup culture, male validation, seeking

04:28:38.200 that.

04:28:38.620 I know that's something that I struggled with for years when I was 18, of, like, going

04:28:42.380 and doing hookups because it's, like, oh, guys are giving you attention.

04:28:45.600 It's so normalized.

04:28:47.300 And you feel cool.

04:28:48.200 For some reason, you feel cool.

04:28:49.900 I have no idea why.

04:28:51.080 You feel like a cool girl.

04:28:52.040 Yeah.

04:28:52.620 Every, like, body that I have had, I've genuinely liked the guy that I've done it.

04:28:56.760 I didn't just, like, do random hookups, you know?

04:28:59.400 Then what's wrong with it?

04:29:00.580 Like, I don't understand, like, what's wrong with it? 0.98

04:29:02.620 Like, I like to have sex. 0.92

04:29:05.180 It's fun. 0.98

04:29:05.480 You can like to have sex and not sleep with a lot of people.

04:29:08.440 I think it's a self-control issue almost.

04:29:11.940 Yeah, exactly.

04:29:14.080 I think it's sad that you, like, some of you shame yourself.

04:29:16.960 I'm not shaming yourself.

04:29:18.380 I'm owning up to it.

04:29:18.600 I don't think anyone's shaming themselves.

04:29:21.000 I just, you know, I acknowledge that, like, maybe it was wrong.

04:29:23.660 Like, no, you're fine.

04:29:24.260 Well, I do acknowledge it was wrong.

04:29:25.900 I'm just saying, like.

04:29:26.540 Maybe she felt like she was doing it out of fear and not out of her own, like, heart.

04:29:30.320 Yeah, exactly.

04:29:30.340 And that's not, like, a shame, but, like, oh, my goodness, like, I was so young.

04:29:33.720 But then you just said that you liked every guy that you did it with, so then just, you're fine.

04:29:35.980 Yeah, but I got played it by every guy that I did it with.

04:29:38.600 Yeah.

04:29:38.900 I mean, I've liked guys that I've done things with, but just because I like them doesn't mean

04:29:43.660 that I should have allowed myself to give my full self to that person.

04:29:47.600 Oh, well, then that's, yeah.

04:29:48.680 Well, I don't think you gave your full self.

04:29:50.180 That's what I'm saying.

04:29:50.880 And like I said, like, as I got older, like, I developed more values, and I feel like I

04:29:55.000 didn't value it as much as I do now, you know?

04:29:58.040 Do you think that you, because we're around the same age, the three of us, do you think

04:30:01.680 that you got more conservative as you got older, like, out of my school and everything?

04:30:04.600 100%, yeah.

04:30:05.820 I think all three of us did, and I usually don't meet people like that, but it's cool to see

04:30:11.600 that.

04:30:11.720 Yeah, y'all are so wise, seriously.

04:30:14.180 I was where y'all were when I was 18, and I turned 24 this month.

04:30:18.020 Like, it's insane to see young people like you girls who, you know, have lower bodies 0.99

04:30:23.040 and are actively talking about it, because I feel like just because so many lies are

04:30:27.020 sold to us, that it is glorifying for us to be so sexually active, hookup culture in

04:30:31.820 college.

04:30:32.140 It's like almost if you're not engaging in that culture in college, you're missing out,

04:30:36.460 when in reality, if you're not engaging in that, you're actually saving yourself for

04:30:40.180 something so much better in the future.

04:30:41.720 I think it should be talked about more for sure, especially in our industry.

04:30:45.480 Oh my God.

04:30:46.280 I think I would say around 95%. 0.60

04:30:50.660 It's not even, in our industry, it's not even like having a lot of sex, because let's

04:30:57.040 be honest, everybody who's a fitness influencer or most people are going to be attractive

04:31:00.960 on the higher end, because, you know, that's your job.

04:31:03.680 But in the women's side, I want to say a good 95% of the girls in the fitness industry do 1.00

04:31:10.940 OnlyFans.

04:31:11.720 Yeah.

04:31:12.140 Really?

04:31:12.880 It's just so, so normalized.

04:31:15.400 People want that the most.

04:31:16.980 I feel like they want the fitness the most.

04:31:18.800 It's almost like a covetous point.

04:31:21.520 It's a very male-dominated industry.

04:31:24.860 And if you take purely fitness, the men make way more money than the girls. 0.99

04:31:29.360 So the girls make up for that by selling sex, basically. 1.00

04:31:33.480 We're very lucky.

04:31:34.800 We're able to be financially independent, just doing fitness, not doing anything sexual.

04:31:39.000 But a lot of girls can't find that level of financial independence in the industry, because 1.00

04:31:44.480 it is male-dominated.

04:31:45.560 And then they see everyone else doing it, and they're like, I'm going to do it.

04:31:47.020 And they almost assume that we do it, too.

04:31:49.280 That's the biggest part that bothers me.

04:31:50.640 It affects us, because we meet people, there are people who have known us for months, and

04:31:54.900 then one day we randomly stumble upon the conversation, and they're like, oh, you don't do OnlyFans?

04:31:59.160 It's like, I don't, I personally don't want to be seen as somebody who does sex work.

04:32:03.620 Yeah, it's assumed. 0.97

04:32:04.460 It sucks that it's normalized for you guys. 0.57

04:32:06.280 Yeah, it is. 0.99

04:32:06.860 It's annoying.

04:32:07.540 It's annoying, there was some guy at the gym who thought I was, he's like, oh, I thought

04:32:10.760 you were richer than that, because we were talking about income.

04:32:13.160 And I was like, well, what do you mean?

04:32:14.520 And he goes, well, you're OnlyFans, how much money does that bring in?

04:32:16.480 Just an automatic assumption.

04:32:18.280 Automatically thinks, yeah.

04:32:19.160 And it's like, oh my god.

04:32:20.300 There's guys who I've gone on dates with, and they go, well, my number one concern is

04:32:24.560 that you do OnlyFans.

04:32:25.320 I'm like, where did you get that from?

04:32:27.900 It's just an assumption now.

04:32:29.140 Yeah, and so it reflects poorly on the rest of us, and it's, I don't know if upsetting is the

04:32:36.300 right term, but it's frustrating.

04:32:38.360 It's frustrating.

04:32:39.100 Honestly, me personally, I don't think it's frustrating, because then it's just like,

04:32:43.860 they find out, oh, you don't do OnlyFans?

04:32:45.340 It's like, oh.

04:32:46.740 Like, it's almost like.

04:32:47.680 It's like a positive thing.

04:32:48.640 Yeah.

04:32:48.860 I think if everybody knew, like, on widespread, then, like, yeah, but I mean, I guess my

04:32:54.100 followers know that.

04:32:54.920 Yeah, because it's like, if they seek it out, then they're like, oh.

04:32:57.140 Then they'll seek it out, yeah.

04:32:58.840 That's true.

04:32:59.780 Yeah.

04:33:00.780 I don't, like.

04:33:03.740 Say it.

04:33:05.060 Yeah, go ahead.

04:33:05.760 Spit it out.

04:33:06.260 I don't want to be like, oh, like, moral high ground, like, I'm better than you.

04:33:10.960 But at the same time, I do take pride in making my money in a non-exploitive way.

04:33:21.160 Yeah.

04:33:21.360 I think that the way that I make my money isn't negative on my mental health.

04:33:27.440 Like, a lot of things.

04:33:28.560 A lot of things.

04:33:29.460 You know what I'm getting at.

04:33:30.720 Are you saying that sex work isn't real work?

04:33:34.340 No.

04:33:34.820 I think that it's still, I don't know.

04:33:37.080 I don't think I'm educated enough on that topic to give you a hint.

04:33:39.580 How would you define real work? 0.98

04:33:41.020 Sorry, I'm just fucking. 0.92

04:33:42.220 How would you define real work? 0.96

04:33:43.720 I'm instigating.

04:33:44.860 I'm just instigating here.

04:33:46.340 Okay.

04:33:47.180 Here, let's do this.

04:33:48.360 We have Puffy here.

04:33:50.740 Nick, can you pull up Puffy's Instagram?

04:33:52.220 Because we'll do him a solid.

04:33:54.560 All right.

04:33:55.240 I've done 500 today.

04:33:56.500 Can the girls rate me one? 1.00

04:33:58.980 Any of your panel have give about a three.

04:34:03.120 Puffy, bro, I'm going to enroll you in some English classes.

04:34:05.860 What?

04:34:07.080 And most say I'm zero.

04:34:08.640 So, I gave 500 tonight.

04:34:10.180 Have the girls rate me.

04:34:11.180 Puffy, answer your DMs, bro.

04:34:13.300 Please answer your DMs.

04:34:15.700 Rippy, what the blonde Hulk meant to say is money means more when it is earned with dignity. 0.96

04:34:22.360 Ha, get wrecked.

04:34:24.520 Who's the blonde? 1.00

04:34:25.620 I think it's me, Pat.

04:34:26.380 Who else is the blonde Hulk? 1.00

04:34:28.320 That's not me.

04:34:29.260 Because they're calling me Pat.

04:34:30.500 So, I thought it was me.

04:34:31.500 I think they mean Jacked.

04:34:33.500 Are they saying I have crying eyes?

04:34:35.820 Do I have crying eyes?

04:34:36.820 Is that...

04:34:37.380 No, I don't know.

04:34:38.360 I thought they said the girl in the red has crying eyes.

04:34:40.740 I'm like, huh?

04:34:41.340 Huh?

04:34:41.660 Okay.

04:34:42.720 First of all, it's fuchsia.

04:34:44.200 Not yet.

04:34:45.120 Oh, yeah.

04:34:47.140 All right.

04:34:47.620 We have Alex P here.

04:34:48.700 Hey, thank you, man.

04:34:49.660 Kirby has already profited from severally...

04:34:52.420 Oh, severely.

04:34:53.660 Sorry to correct you.

04:34:54.780 No, I scuffed that.

04:34:55.980 Okay.

04:34:56.820 Moral actions, so she will use any and all cognitive dissonance to avoid facing the shame

04:35:01.740 and guilt she deserves. 0.98

04:35:03.560 Brian, make your pen out of a piece of the USS New Jersey, and it uses your silly refills. 0.86

04:35:08.780 Oh, I need to get back to you about the pens.

04:35:11.020 He's going to hook me up with a bunch of pens, I guess.

04:35:12.960 We need some in the studio, so if you can bump the...

04:35:17.260 What's it called?

04:35:18.840 Our DMs on Instagram, I'll get back to you.

04:35:20.880 Sorry, I get like 100 DMs a week.

04:35:23.180 Well, more than 100 DMs a week, so it's hard to keep up with everybody, but thank you, man.

04:35:27.680 Appreciate it.

04:35:28.900 Okay, let's do the videos, and then let's rap. 0.81

04:35:33.200 Puffy first.

04:35:34.160 Oh, Puffy, yes.

04:35:35.020 Let's do Puffy really quick.

04:35:38.340 All right, this is Senior Puffy Vegas. 0.99

04:35:41.080 Holy shit. 0.99

04:35:41.920 It's like, which one's hands? 0.99

04:35:43.520 The one, sorry, the only man.

04:35:45.840 Oh, my God.

04:35:47.340 Wow.

04:35:48.460 Click that one.

04:35:50.060 Oh, yeah.

04:35:50.460 What?

04:35:52.400 Okay, that's...

04:35:53.060 Your comment.

04:35:53.920 It doesn't look like he's sleeping with these women.

04:35:55.900 It just looks like he's asking them for pictures.

04:35:59.920 I commented on here.

04:36:01.100 This is Puffy, the guy that sleeps with many, many, many women.

04:36:05.840 Do the one to the left.

04:36:07.440 I think he just goes on the strip and takes pictures with 304.

04:36:11.380 And probably pays them.

04:36:13.480 And that's why he has a 500 body count.

04:36:16.100 Oh, Giga Chat, okay.

04:36:17.500 I like how to support him in all of his adventures.

04:36:19.940 Nice comments.

04:36:20.800 It's a mutual...

04:36:22.540 Giga Chat.

04:36:23.400 Right.

04:36:23.760 He supports me.

04:36:24.740 I support him.

04:36:25.580 Totally.

04:36:25.880 Yo, guys, everybody in the chat right now, I want you to go to his Instagram right now,

04:36:30.960 and I want you to spam comments on...

04:36:33.880 XL, this one, I'll tell you the photo I want you to...

04:36:36.620 The one to the right of it that we pulled up before.

04:36:39.300 Okay, I want to see 100 comments on this.

04:36:41.820 If you got Instagram, go pull up his Instagram.

04:36:44.680 Come back to the chat after you're done.

04:36:46.240 I want you to comment, fire emojis, slay queen.

04:36:53.320 What's his name?

04:36:54.040 Puffy Vegas.

04:36:54.940 Oh, Vegas.

04:36:55.820 Puffy underscore Vegas.

04:36:56.980 Slay queen, fire emojis, the fingernail one, where it's doing like the fingernail, just 0.95

04:37:02.480 everything.

04:37:03.740 So that's his IG.

04:37:05.020 Ladies, what do you give him out of 10? 1.00

04:37:07.440 10.

04:37:07.920 You can close it out.

04:37:08.520 He looks very nice.

04:37:09.100 Yeah, he looks like a nice guy.

04:37:10.380 He looks nice, but I'm concerned with him going up to random women and taking pictures.

04:37:13.980 Yeah.

04:37:14.660 Yeah.

04:37:16.140 Followed him.

04:37:16.860 Hold on.

04:37:17.400 Oh.

04:37:17.600 Oh.

04:37:17.760 He looks like he took a video.

04:37:19.120 Yeah, show us that one.

04:37:21.180 Oh, my God.

04:37:21.880 This is getting okay.

04:37:23.420 Wait.

04:37:24.140 Actually, Nick, leave a comment.

04:37:25.420 Let's also leave a comment.

04:37:27.280 Just write.

04:37:28.360 No, it's, yeah, right there.

04:37:29.540 Just write.

04:37:32.000 What should we write on his Instagram right now?

04:37:35.000 Hello.

04:37:36.480 Solid guy.

04:37:37.200 10 out of 10.

04:37:39.080 How'd you get her?

04:37:39.620 He looks like a nice guy.

04:37:41.360 Tell him.

04:37:41.980 Based on just looks, he looks like the type of people that I would want to shrink and put

04:37:45.240 in my pocket.

04:37:45.840 Yeah, exactly.

04:37:46.820 You're okay.

04:37:48.680 Just write, this is what peak male performance looks like.

04:37:56.000 Peak masculinity.

04:37:56.800 Whether you like it or not, this is what peak male performance looks like.

04:38:01.340 Yeah, you can put.

04:38:02.520 There you go.

04:38:03.760 I wonder how he is in person.

04:38:05.340 I really want to meet him.

04:38:06.420 Yeah, right?

04:38:07.500 We should get to Vegas meet.

04:38:09.080 So, what do you rate him?

04:38:11.060 What do you rate him?

04:38:11.980 I forget what I said.

04:38:13.960 I don't know.

04:38:14.660 Seven, six, whatever.

04:38:15.820 Did you rate him?

04:38:16.400 I'm not going to rate anybody.

04:38:17.740 A billion bucks.

04:38:20.460 No ratings for anyone tonight.

04:38:22.840 I'm going to rate you a 10 because I appreciate that you always come on here and do this.

04:38:27.800 Yeah.

04:38:28.820 No rating.

04:38:30.500 Five.

04:38:31.200 What?

04:38:31.340 Wow.

04:38:33.080 Wow.

04:38:34.740 Heartless.

04:38:35.820 Did you see how cold she is? 0.99

04:38:37.660 Look into the camera.

04:38:38.520 Look how cold.

04:38:39.400 But he always talks about how he always meets women that cheat on their husbands and everything.

04:38:46.060 But you're allowing them to do that.

04:38:48.020 Okay.

04:38:48.460 So, yeah.

04:38:49.440 I didn't know who he was.

04:38:51.820 All right.

04:38:52.400 Homewrecker Vegas.

04:38:54.880 We have a couple videos that we got to react to and then we're going to wrap.

04:38:58.060 Okay.

04:38:58.380 So, pull up the first Andrew Tate video.

04:39:02.620 Oh, boy.

04:39:03.860 It's related to what we were talking about.

04:39:06.640 Go ahead.

04:39:07.020 You can play it.

04:39:08.940 Do you want some video here?

04:39:10.100 No.

04:39:10.340 It's fine there.

04:39:11.820 You know what's so attractive about younger women? 1.00

04:39:13.600 Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff. 0.97

04:39:17.220 I don't actually think it's that.

04:39:18.660 I...

04:39:19.020 Wait.

04:39:20.200 Can we turn the captions on?

04:39:21.940 Nick.

04:39:22.660 Can we turn the captions on?

04:39:24.060 Brother.

04:39:24.760 What happened?

04:39:25.340 Walk in, brother.

04:39:29.280 Where are you?

04:39:30.600 Dude, you're ex-cabbers.

04:39:32.460 Like, here for the time.

04:39:36.540 I got it.

04:39:38.000 This one.

04:39:39.700 Remember?

04:39:39.980 Know what's so attractive about younger women? 0.99

04:39:41.760 Because we...

04:39:42.160 A lot...

04:39:43.320 An R. 1.00

04:39:44.660 You got to drag it over here.

04:39:46.040 Now it's playing.

04:39:48.740 Yeah.

04:39:49.040 Now you need to...

04:39:49.840 Right foot here.

04:39:52.060 Now you got an X out of that.

04:39:55.480 Right here.

04:39:56.920 You got a three-pack.

04:39:58.320 I was shaking the tricep.

04:39:59.700 Yeah.

04:40:00.200 I'm going to look.

04:40:00.900 It's the only good thing about my arm.

04:40:09.740 Sorry, guys.

04:40:11.060 It's okay, Nick.

04:40:14.660 You know what's so attractive about younger women? 1.00

04:40:16.660 Because a lot of these dudes talk about fertility and looks and stuff. 0.97

04:40:20.280 I don't actually think it's that.

04:40:21.600 I think that in the modern world...

04:40:23.740 In the days of old, right?

04:40:24.900 You'd meet a woman, you'd get married, you'd be together, whatever. 0.99

04:40:26.400 In the modern world, if I meet a girl who's 33 and single, I know the amount of dick that's been through her before me is just simply unattractive. 0.99

04:40:34.020 I don't care how nice you are. 0.99

04:40:35.240 Yeah, yeah.

04:40:35.520 But you're 33 years old. 1.00

04:40:37.080 How many men have fucked... 1.00

04:40:38.180 If I get a 19-year-old girl, I might be her second or third man, right? 1.00

04:40:40.760 I'm going to be dude number fucking 29? 0.98

04:40:42.820 Yeah. 0.99

04:40:43.020 And all the trauma and heartbreak and bullshit they put you through, you're going to try and bring to my door? 0.99

04:40:47.940 Yeah. 1.00

04:40:48.160 Like, well, if my last man cheat, I'll give a fuck. 1.00

04:40:50.400 Yeah. 1.00

04:40:50.700 Like, I don't care.

04:40:51.700 Like, why is that my problem? 0.99

04:40:52.680 So, if you pick up older women, you have to accept they've been on the carousel longer, they've had more fucking rides, more spins. 0.99

04:40:59.340 Yeah. 1.00

04:40:59.460 I don't want that shit. 1.00

04:41:00.540 And when I see a beautiful young woman, I know that she has a very low body count. 1.00

04:41:03.980 And that...

04:41:04.340 And also...

04:41:05.100 No, but the truth is this.

04:41:06.780 Women's mentality is absolutely connected to sex. 1.00

04:41:09.880 If a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, it's harder to penetrate her mind and make her fall in love with you. 1.00

04:41:13.640 It is unattractive.

04:41:14.740 And it's unattractive.

04:41:15.480 It is.

04:41:15.680 But if she's had 30 dudes inside of her, is she really going to think, you know what, this guy's so, so, so special?

04:41:20.900 Or is she going to think, you know what, he talked to me real quick, I'll just go get a new guy?

04:41:23.020 Whereas if a woman's only been with a few guys, she's much more likely to fall in love with you and be a better partner. 0.96

04:41:26.460 The likelihood of her falling completely in love with you and staying loyal to you and really believing you're the only man for her,

04:41:32.220 after being through so much trauma and so many men and sleeping with so many dudes and having her heart broken

04:41:36.560 and having those memories of her ex and all that crap she's been through

04:41:39.300 is far less likely than meeting a nice, young, beautiful girl who hasn't been with many men.

04:41:43.080 And she goes, you know what, this is the guy, I like him.

04:41:45.420 Every woman who knows this and every man who watches this can be honest.

04:41:47.600 Women fall in love with the person they lose their virginity to or their second or third guy. 0.96

04:41:50.340 They really remember them.

04:41:51.180 They really love them.

04:41:52.060 Any woman who slept with 50 dudes, she doesn't even remember who most of them are. 0.96

04:41:54.280 She doesn't care.

04:41:55.040 If a woman slept with a bunch of men before you, she's less likely to stick it out through a difficult period in a relationship. 1.00

04:41:58.860 She's more likely to just say, you know what, new answers, new dig.

04:42:00.980 That's a pretty good answer.

04:42:01.900 And that's the truth.

04:42:02.760 Let me make something clear.

04:42:03.680 If I meet a beautiful 30-year-old woman, I'm not saying I won't sleep with her. 0.99

04:42:06.140 That's pretty fucking old. 1.00

04:42:07.320 Ugh, 30? 0.99

04:42:08.560 I know. 1.00

04:42:09.020 What are you, crazy? 1.00

04:42:10.700 There's been times I was drunk. 1.00

04:42:11.820 Your reaction to the video?

04:42:15.700 Is he Muslim, Andrew Tate?

04:42:17.860 I was just curious.

04:42:18.560 He, well, he used to be atheist, then he became Christian, but now he's Muslim.

04:42:22.760 It's in his, you know, they have the virgins and the Muslim culture.

04:42:27.020 And I know he does the mantras.

04:42:28.360 I've seen him do those mantras when he sits down.

04:42:31.440 I've seen the pictures.

04:42:32.680 You mean this?

04:42:34.320 He does that.

04:42:34.760 And he does other mantras, too.

04:42:36.100 And it's like a, I had a.

04:42:37.580 Well, let's stick to the video here.

04:42:39.780 So, reaction?

04:42:41.600 I think you might have a reaction, because.

04:42:43.340 Well, yeah.

04:42:44.000 I mean, he trafficked women in my country. 0.88

04:42:49.340 And so, yeah, I don't care what he says, but I must say this.

04:42:52.140 Allegedly.

04:42:52.580 Allegedly.

04:42:53.220 Allegedly.

04:42:53.860 Even though the Romanian press says otherwise.

04:42:55.720 I read the articles in Romanian.

04:42:59.180 Anyways.

04:43:04.500 Alleged.

04:43:06.020 Alleged.

04:43:06.460 Anyways.

04:43:07.700 Allow the circuit.

04:43:08.300 No, I think, look, so, my, once again, I'll, I feel like we're going in circles.

04:43:13.240 I feel like, look, as a girl who's like, you know, has a body count of 30 or whatever,

04:43:17.500 I feel like if I really, like, when I, when I like a guy and I sleep with a guy and I like

04:43:22.000 him, it means a lot because, I mean, I have the experience to, to know that I like, to

04:43:27.400 I really like him.

04:43:28.300 When you lose your virginity to someone, it's puppy love.

04:43:31.580 You don't even know if you like him.

04:43:32.780 All you know is he's the first one to put it in you.

04:43:35.480 That's sad.

04:43:36.000 So that's my, that's my opinion.

04:43:37.900 Okay.

04:43:38.120 Anyways, move on.

04:43:38.900 God, we don't know.

04:43:39.440 We all, we don't got to keep going in circles, guys.

04:43:41.680 All right.

04:43:42.680 I'm tired.

04:43:43.960 Wait, I'm confused.

04:43:44.960 The first one to put it in you.

04:43:46.640 Put it in you. 0.78

04:43:47.460 To stick it in you. 0.97

04:43:49.000 Like, like. 0.87

04:43:49.760 Wait, what?

04:43:50.180 He said, like, did you not hear what he said?

04:43:52.080 He said.

04:43:52.300 You're describing sex like that?

04:43:54.280 Yeah. 1.00

04:43:55.440 Stick it in her. 1.00

04:43:56.360 Sex is, oh my God. 1.00

04:43:57.240 Stick it in her. 1.00

04:43:58.920 But, okay.

04:43:59.420 Finish your, what?

04:44:00.860 I finished it.

04:44:02.560 I finished it.

04:44:03.020 Wait, what was the, what was the thing about being the first?

04:44:05.820 What?

04:44:05.920 I, well, he mentioned that, um, a woman's always going to fall in love with her first 0.72

04:44:10.060 or second or whatever.

04:44:11.200 And that a woman who's been with a lot of men, like, lacks the ability to, like, have connection, 0.99

04:44:16.460 which is so not true.

04:44:17.820 It is.

04:44:18.160 Oh my God.

04:44:20.020 You haven't even been with that many people, so how are you going to say that?

04:44:23.220 I don't even know what you're talking about.

04:44:25.120 But why would, so you would rather her be with 30 people to then have the anecdotal evidence

04:44:29.640 to be able to say, like, oh.

04:44:31.100 I'm reacting to the video.

04:44:32.680 I'm saying that I don't agree with what he said.

04:44:35.140 And also, he is, he allegedly trafficked women from my country, and so I don't really 0.99

04:44:40.500 give a fuck what he says. 0.99

04:44:41.740 Anyways, move on. 0.99

04:44:42.860 Thank you.

04:44:43.220 But, well, that's not really, I mean, his pending court case.

04:44:47.520 Oh my God.

04:44:48.620 His pending court case is kind of irrelevant, because you need to actually address the arguments

04:44:53.480 he's making, saying.

04:44:54.560 I did address them.

04:44:56.200 No, but it's a fallacious, it's fallacious to say, well, because this person is currently

04:45:02.120 being accused of a crime, therefore what he's saying is wrong.

04:45:05.940 That's a fallacious argument.

04:45:06.840 I addressed what he said, and then I followed it with being like, I don't, I mean, he could

04:45:12.460 say whatever, I don't agree with anything that he'll ever say, because I read the Romanian 0.65

04:45:16.800 press, and you could say allegedly, but whatever.

04:45:19.440 So if he said that the sky was blue, you would object to it, because he's currently under-investigation.

04:45:23.400 Oh my God, come on, Brian.

04:45:24.460 That is what you're saying, though.

04:45:25.960 That's literally what you're saying.

04:45:27.500 You guys, come on now.

04:45:28.800 You know that's not what I'm saying.

04:45:30.360 But you know that's not what I'm saying.

04:45:31.220 But the fact that he's currently-

04:45:33.060 I'm not playing this game.

04:45:34.040 Like, literally, we understand-

04:45:35.820 It is a fallacy, though, to say, because he allegedly did this bad thing, that therefore

04:45:41.880 he's wrong on this particular issue.

04:45:43.220 But I did respond to what he said, and I feel like I was pretty thorough about it, so-

04:45:46.620 Okay, but you're trying to minimize what he said by also throwing in, by the way, he's

04:45:53.440 also accused of this, therefore you should take what he said less seriously.

04:45:57.420 That's a fallacy.

04:45:59.840 I don't know.

04:46:00.280 Is it appeal to authority?

04:46:01.940 I'm not sure.

04:46:02.560 But sort of, kind of.

04:46:05.600 He can't be an authority on what he's saying, because he's accused of crying.

04:46:08.860 Yeah, I know.

04:46:09.320 I mean, it is. 1.00

04:46:10.100 I mean, I'm just, like, talking shit. 0.99

04:46:11.600 Okay, that's fine. 1.00

04:46:12.600 That's fine.

04:46:13.080 Yeah, like, it's not that serious.

04:46:14.500 You're fine.

04:46:14.900 That's why I said just move on.

04:46:16.100 I wonder if he felt this way before he converted to Muslim.

04:46:20.960 Well, he was Christian when he said that.

04:46:22.320 Oh, he was Christian.

04:46:23.060 I'm pretty sure you, let's not involve religion into this, but he's probably felt that way

04:46:29.260 forever.

04:46:31.180 Forever.

04:46:32.100 Yeah, I thought that maybe that had something to do with his strong beliefs on that.

04:46:36.980 Okay.

04:46:37.200 Yeah, so that, I mean, for me, I'm like, okay, well, that's what he believes, and that's,

04:46:41.820 you know, haram to him, and, you know, okay.

04:46:46.400 I think in general, like, regardless of, like, his belief system, where did he lie?

04:46:51.440 I mean, an older woman will, who has had more sexual partners will obviously not be able 1.00

04:46:57.320 to connect with her husband as much and will be coming into a relationship with baggage.

04:47:02.120 So I think it's fair to assume, unless you've had an intimate conversation of how many people

04:47:06.080 you've slept with, it's okay to assume, okay, you're 35, you're single, you've probably slept

04:47:10.300 with a lot more people than a 19 or 20-year-old coming in, and it's one or two sexual partners.

04:47:14.440 Makes sense.

04:47:15.080 I agree.

04:47:15.620 In The Music Man, I said the sadder but wiser girl for me, because he wanted the girl that

04:47:19.460 was around the block, but he doesn't, so that makes sense.

04:47:22.900 Which, I'm not the biggest Andrew Tate fan, but in this exact clip, 100%, like, there were

04:47:27.900 no lies.

04:47:29.240 I think it's pretty factual to say that an older woman who's slept with a lot of more 1.00

04:47:34.420 men are more to have less emotional connections to their husbands or whoever they're seeking 0.97

04:47:40.120 relationships with, because, I mean, sex is an emotional thing, you know?

04:47:44.500 Okay, yeah, so psychologically, orgasm for women is an oxytocin release, and for men, it's

04:47:49.740 a dopamine release.

04:47:50.660 And oxytocin is a bonding hormone, and dopamine is a reward hormone.

04:47:54.680 Well, every single time you sleep with a man, we are creating pair bonds in our brain that

04:47:59.460 are connecting us to those people.

04:48:00.660 And they're not.

04:48:01.820 Psychologically.

04:48:02.660 But, I'm sorry if I cut you off.

04:48:04.100 It's science.

04:48:04.980 What do you mean?

04:48:05.620 What is she talking about?

04:48:06.300 That's what I don't, I don't understand how you can disagree with science and psychology.

04:48:10.460 I personally don't pair bond with every single person I sleep with.

04:48:13.660 See, but that's the thing.

04:48:14.280 You don't realize that.

04:48:16.160 What about, okay, so is this only hetero-relationship, or are we talking about, like, orgasm? 0.85

04:48:20.660 Any type of sex. 0.95

04:48:21.580 Any type of sex.

04:48:22.840 Okay.

04:48:23.300 So, you can say, like, I'm not pair bonding, but that's just not reality, and that's not

04:48:27.260 scientific.

04:48:27.940 So, I'm just delusional?

04:48:29.020 I just, like, live my life?

04:48:29.900 Yeah, I didn't say you're delusional.

04:48:31.320 So, every guy that I sleep with, I'm just in love with?

04:48:34.100 That's cool.

04:48:34.380 No, I didn't say you're in love with him.

04:48:36.100 I said that there's a psychological bond, that there is a bond in your brain that you

04:48:40.080 are creating with that person that you have an intimate relationship with.

04:48:44.680 That is psychological, that is scientific, it's irrefutable evidence on the table.

04:48:50.140 And so, you can say, I'm going out in the world and not having these relationships with

04:48:55.420 people, but at the end of the day, I mean, you said you slept with 30 people.

04:48:58.320 You have a pair bonded in your brain with 30 people.

04:49:01.020 With all 30 people?

04:49:02.240 Yes.

04:49:02.980 The more you slept with people, the less you probably recognize it, too, because that's

04:49:09.920 how it works.

04:49:10.540 It decreases them.

04:49:12.320 Desensitize.

04:49:12.760 You're creating also the inability to have a long-lasting relationship, because the more

04:49:17.420 people that you sleep with, and when it's just a hookup, you're training psychologically

04:49:20.880 your brain, that that is more acceptable and okay than being in a long-term relationship.

04:49:24.840 That is sad.

04:49:25.680 The more sexual partners you have, the more sexual partners you have, it starts to reduce

04:49:32.300 your ability to pair bond with future partners.

04:49:34.560 It may be the case that you've slept with people, you had absolutely no bond, but...

04:49:39.200 I've had great bonds afterwards, too.

04:49:41.420 I mean, like I said, I have no issues following that.

04:49:43.120 For the first couple or few people that you have ever slept with, say, have you ever felt

04:49:49.600 like emotionally connected to those specific people?

04:49:52.300 Yeah, the first one definitely was a thing, but I mean, okay, so after I fell in love

04:49:58.940 with like my actual, like my first boyfriend, the one that I was with for six years, I couldn't

04:50:02.780 even compare the love that I felt for him with the guy that I, like the guy that I thought

04:50:08.000 I was in love with, who was the first guy I slept with, I mean, after actually being

04:50:13.220 in love, I couldn't compare it.

04:50:14.880 Wait, the guy you were in love with was the six-year one?

04:50:17.760 Yes.

04:50:18.080 You, in your messages to us, you say you were in an open relationship with him.

04:50:22.360 Um, yes.

04:50:22.980 Well, not for the whole six years.

04:50:24.700 Towards the last, the last two years, we did, um, we did kind of fall out of love, but

04:50:30.880 also, because we were, I was 17 when we got together, and we both like, it got boring

04:50:34.800 after a while, and then so we both were open.

04:50:37.880 Don't they say that boring love is good love?

04:50:40.180 Is that the only, like, I'm saying at first, I'm saying.

04:50:42.700 It's supposed to be, uh, like, uh...

04:50:44.580 Normal.

04:50:45.120 Normal, yeah.

04:50:45.940 With the first guy I slept with, versus when I got into my relationship at the beginning,

04:50:51.960 I mean, I can't compare the two loves that I thought that I felt, you know, like, the

04:50:56.160 first one was puppy love, the second one was like, oh my god, like, I'm in love, like,

04:51:00.860 this is crazy, like, I, you know, we did everything together, we're actually still friends to this

04:51:05.240 day, like, I still have love for him.

04:51:07.040 It's just not as romantic anymore, because we grew apart, we just, I don't know, I think

04:51:11.100 it's like a seven-year itch thing, it's like six years, you know, we just both changed,

04:51:14.820 we grew in different directions, um, but, yeah, I mean, that's kind of what I'm saying,

04:51:20.100 it's like, well, the first guy, yeah, I thought I loved him, but the guy I really was in love

04:51:23.980 with was, wasn't he, I think he was the seventh guy I ever, actually, I remember he was the

04:51:29.300 seventh guy.

04:51:29.420 Would you say that's, like, the only guy that you've ever felt emotionally connected to

04:51:32.700 that you've ever had sex with, though?

04:51:34.120 No, um, the other guy was, I've had two relationships, the other guy was the one I was last with,

04:51:41.220 and that was almost even deeper, actually, because we had more in common, like, we were

04:51:45.020 into the same kind of, like, humor and whatnot, and so we, like, got to hang out more, and

04:51:51.000 I don't know, like, hanging, like, he was, it was, I don't know how it's been, like, we

04:51:54.520 were closer on, like, a friendly, friendship level, and, um, yeah, I was even, I was in even

04:52:00.380 more love with him, actually, than the other guy, so that's what I'm saying, like, this

04:52:03.560 is, so, like, the first few guys you, you would say you have felt emotionally connected

04:52:08.100 to, well, no, and then it wore off.

04:52:09.760 I'm saying that the first guy I slept with, I did, and then my first relationship, which

04:52:13.620 was, like, the seventh guy, I did, and then, like, shortly, shortly after I slept with,

04:52:18.920 I mean, I, shortly after I ended my six-year relationship, I got with somebody else, and

04:52:22.940 we were even even more deeper, like, emotionally connected, so.

04:52:27.080 So, I feel like that does prove that it does wear off as you, yeah.

04:52:29.720 How does, I just said that it went, it got deeper and deeper as it went along.

04:52:33.460 I didn't say it got less deep, I said it got deeper and deeper.

04:52:36.560 But do you think, okay, let's say you've slept with a hundred people.

04:52:39.300 Right.

04:52:40.020 Do you think, like, you're really gonna care about number 101? 0.99

04:52:44.000 Like, at that point, it's just, like, the next, the next dick. 0.68

04:52:47.640 I'm talking about my real, my romantic relationships have gotten deeper and deeper and deeper. 0.95

04:52:53.180 The more men you've slept with?

04:52:54.480 No, the older I get, the more experience I am, the more I know myself, the more that

04:52:58.700 I know what I want.

04:52:59.580 Yeah, but generally speaking, like, look, the more people you sleep with, like, as you

04:53:03.340 have more sexual partners, your ability to pair bond with future people is diminished.

04:53:08.600 That's not the case for me, because I've gotten more in love with people the older I get,

04:53:13.440 I feel like, the more experience I have.

04:53:15.500 Because I knew what I didn't want from the first guy, I knew what I didn't want from the

04:53:19.540 second guy, and I knew what I didn't want from the third guy.

04:53:22.340 Let me ask you a question.

04:53:22.980 Why can't you know what you don't want?

04:53:24.660 And each time, I build upon, like, what's... 0.96

04:53:26.660 Why can't you know what you don't like without having to experience a shitty relationship

04:53:33.000 and where you don't like things? 0.97

04:53:34.560 Did I say that any of them are shitty?

04:53:37.300 I'm just using that term that you found. 0.78

04:53:39.220 I learned from each experience that I've had.

04:53:41.340 And you're never gonna know what you want or don't want unless you experience it.

04:53:44.580 I definitely do know what I want and don't want without having relationship experience.

04:53:48.420 You can totally rationalize in your head what is good and what is not without having to

04:53:54.160 experience it.

04:53:54.940 I can't argue with that, and that's fine.

04:53:56.500 I have a question for you.

04:53:57.380 You said your six-year relationship, was he one of your first people that you were intimate

04:54:03.540 with?

04:54:04.100 Yeah, I said he was, like, number seven.

04:54:05.800 He was number seven.

04:54:06.900 Mm-hmm.

04:54:07.120 But, however, you admitted to it getting boring, and then you opened up the relationship.

04:54:14.740 Well...

04:54:15.340 So the sex life was boring. 1.00

04:54:17.140 The sex, and, I mean, yeah, I think, shit, we were together for years at that point. 0.99

04:54:23.580 Exhibit A. 0.99

04:54:24.400 I mean, like, but you said your relationship, you had to open it up.

04:54:29.800 I, I mean, honestly, to be completely honest, it was really him that was the one that wanted

04:54:35.620 to open it and was, like, having issues, like, being faithful and whatnot, and so I was like,

04:54:40.660 all right, well, we can open it up, and, and that was that.

04:54:43.680 But, um, but the open relationship isn't really what killed it.

04:54:46.680 But you said it was boring, too.

04:54:48.000 You thought it was also boring.

04:54:48.820 It was after, okay, after.

04:54:50.560 Okay.

04:54:51.020 After.

04:54:51.380 So the last two years, we did, we were not having pretty much...

04:54:55.800 Isn't that a failure of the pair bonding between you two, then?

04:54:59.940 If it was boring and you had to open it up?

04:55:01.900 No, because we opened it up before that.

04:55:03.640 I think what really failed it wasn't the pair bonding. 0.98

04:55:05.700 It was the fact, I mean, shit, I, I really don't want to, like, put my business out there. 0.97

04:55:12.040 I'm scared he's going to see this, because we're so, we're so cool. 0.98

04:55:14.520 I don't want to, like, go...

04:55:15.840 Did you feel you stopped growing together?

04:55:18.180 Yeah, essentially, yes.

04:55:19.640 Like, I was, I am a lot more ambitious than him, and he, so he was three years older,

04:55:26.520 right?

04:55:26.760 I was 17, he was 20 when we got together.

04:55:28.840 And I feel like I outgrew him.

04:55:32.440 And so it was, I became, fine, I'm going to say, I became his mother at the end of the

04:55:35.940 day, and it was extremely unattractive to be somebody's mother.

04:55:39.360 Sure.

04:55:39.880 After years of being together.

04:55:41.780 So.

04:55:42.180 Let's watch another tape video.

04:55:43.760 Okay.

04:55:44.280 We got another one here.

04:55:45.440 Nick can pull it up.

04:55:46.380 Is this the second one in the list?

04:55:50.580 Yes.

04:55:51.060 Can you go full screen, make it, before you play it, make it full screen?

04:55:55.380 Wait, is this the one I want to react to?

04:55:57.200 Oh, this is related to the whole, like, experience, inexperience thing, I think.

04:56:04.060 Because you were talking about, well, wouldn't a guy want a girl who's, and I pretty much

04:56:08.760 totally agree with what he's about to say, but wouldn't a guy want a girl who's, like,

04:56:12.200 more sexually experienced?

04:56:13.100 Just wholesome tape here.

04:56:15.260 I think this is a wholesome moment.

04:56:17.440 Go ahead. 0.99

04:56:18.580 Sex, sex, this position, that position. 0.96

04:56:21.820 Don't you feel like you get to a point in your life where there's something more than 1.00

04:56:23.880 that shit? 0.99

04:56:24.740 Don't you feel like, maybe I'm going to sound like a romantic, don't you feel like you get 1.00

04:56:27.800 to a position in your life where you'd rather have a girl who you truly love and she truly

04:56:30.880 loves you, and it doesn't matter what she does, because you know she really loves you

04:56:34.000 and she's trying her best.

04:56:34.820 Wear those hats.

04:56:35.900 I know she's shaking her head.

04:56:37.540 I know she's shaking her head.

04:56:39.640 But I'm serious.

04:56:40.520 I'm serious. 1.00

04:56:41.000 If you sleep with enough women, just like if you sleep with enough men, there's no fucking 1.00

04:56:45.260 move. 1.00

04:56:46.000 Sex is not a complicated operation, all right?

04:56:48.320 There's no move that's going to be like, wow, I've never seen this before.

04:56:51.000 You don't have prevented, though.

04:56:51.920 I've never seen this before and my mind is blown.

04:56:54.360 No, no. 1.00

04:56:55.580 If you think the way you keep a man happy is to move your pussy in a particular way on top 1.00

04:56:59.040 of his dick, as opposed to behave in a way which is respectful to him out in the real 0.99

04:57:03.400 world, and for him to know he has you and your loyalty, regardless of what's going to 0.99

04:57:07.760 come up, all the problems he's going to come into in his life, then you're wrong.

04:57:10.800 So the whole point of sex is a connection between two people, and I think having a genuine connection

04:57:15.920 between two people is worth more than the sex.

04:57:17.520 So her question was, what can a woman do to truly blow your mind in the bedroom? 1.00

04:57:21.840 You'll blow my mind outside of the bedroom, in a relationship as a whole.

04:57:26.000 That wasn't the question.

04:57:27.260 That's the truth.

04:57:28.140 Wouldn't you rather have a girlfriend who truly loves you, is absolutely loyal to you,

04:57:32.000 like no matter what happens, she's going to be there for you.

04:57:34.020 You can catch a case six months.

04:57:35.220 She's outside waiting for you. 0.99

04:57:36.640 She, okay, she can't take dick, right, whatever, but she tries her very, very best, the poor 1.00

04:57:42.480 thing, and she wants to satisfy you, and you know she cares about you, wouldn't you be like, 0.99

04:57:49.020 well, I don't care that she can't take dick, because that's actually a quality woman, which 1.00

04:57:52.240 is rare in the world today, but I am genuinely uninterested in sleeping with a woman who I don't 1.00

04:57:56.300 have a connection with.

04:57:57.340 If a girl said to me, I don't love you at all, I don't feel anything for you at all,

04:58:01.240 I don't want to sleep with you, but I will, I would say no. 0.80

04:58:04.800 So, the sex act in and of itself is, okay, we've all, have you had sex? 0.99

04:58:09.740 We've all had sex, right? 1.00

04:58:10.700 Do you really need to fuck somebody who doesn't give a shit about you at all? 1.00

04:58:13.740 We live in a world now, right, where we have a lot of narratives which are being broken 1.00

04:58:16.700 down and destroyed in real time, and I think it's very, very healthy for men and women

04:58:20.380 to look at sex as an act that happens between people who at least like each other. 0.99

04:58:26.280 The idea that I don't like them at all, but as long as they can suck dick this way, 1.00

04:58:30.880 then it's okay. 1.00

04:58:31.600 I don't give a fuck, right? 1.00

04:58:33.020 If a girl genuinely loves me with all her heart and gives me a fucking terrible blowjob, 1.00

04:58:37.340 I'm still going to be like, well, you love me, I love you, it is what it is. 1.00

04:58:40.440 Life's more important than blowjobs and fucking blowing your nose. 1.00

04:58:43.120 Sorry, but what if it's not love? 1.00

04:58:43.560 This is the truth.

04:58:44.760 And if it's not love, if it's not love, let me tell you something.

04:58:48.080 Women are the gatekeepers, not men. 1.00

04:58:50.080 If it's not love, you shouldn't be fucking him anyway. 0.99

04:58:52.640 This is the reality of the world. 0.99

04:58:54.060 Just because the modern world told you different. 0.99

04:58:55.880 You shouldn't be fucking any man you don't love. 1.00

04:58:57.520 That's the first fucking thing. 1.00

04:58:58.460 Okay, relax. 1.00

04:58:58.800 You shouldn't be sleeping with him.

04:58:59.680 No, but it's true.

04:59:00.520 No, you're right, you're right.

04:59:01.620 No, no, no, no, because the intimate, whatever, however you say it, intimate, whatever, it's not there, you will feel it.

04:59:08.960 But looking at that from a, you know, just from that angle, you know, there are times like, I mean, I guess I'll relate it to the sex work.

04:59:19.540 There are times where I meet somebody and they're real nasty to me.

04:59:22.460 Like, in person, they're not nice, they say things.

04:59:25.640 And like he said, the gatekeeper, I was like, you know what, maybe it's best you see another girl, because I don't want to see you. 0.98

04:59:30.520 And in that sense, yes, I agree.

04:59:32.420 I agree that, like, you want to be with someone sexually that cares about you, that is least nice to you.

04:59:39.160 Like, I had one guy that was insulting me, like, the whole time, and I just was like, this guy's nasty.

04:59:44.360 I don't want him.

04:59:46.120 And didn't, I just gave him to somebody else.

04:59:49.440 Your reaction?

04:59:50.080 I mean, yeah, he's saying that he wants to have a romantic connection or a genuine connection with somebody.

04:59:56.980 I mean, isn't that what we all want?

04:59:59.300 But the context of the clip is, well, if a girl is sexually experienced, say she's either virgin or maybe she's only been with one guy,

05:00:08.280 there's this trope that a woman who has a low body count, that translates to she's going to be bad in bed. 1.00

05:00:14.160 Or if she's a virgin, she's going to be bad in bed. 1.00

05:00:17.260 He acknowledges her trying, though.

05:00:19.040 He says, hey, she's trying.

05:00:20.320 She's trying.

05:00:21.040 I was like, hey, her heart's there.

05:00:22.160 She's trying, man.

05:00:22.900 You can always teach, right?

05:00:24.880 I mean, I think that the best part about two inexperienced people being together is that you learn together.

05:00:31.360 I think that's really fulfilling.

05:00:33.400 And I'm sure that after a couple of years, like, it's probably the best sex of your life.

05:00:37.940 It's also the most beautiful thing.

05:00:38.640 Not even a couple of years.

05:00:39.980 Not even a couple of years.

05:00:40.680 I don't think it would take that long.

05:00:41.820 If you're trying, you're practicing every day, you're getting your lessons in, maybe it's not too much.

05:00:46.380 That's what an honorable man that actually wants a wife will be able to teach those things. 0.75

05:00:51.220 And even if he's sexually inexperienced and she's sexually inexperienced, that's, like, the beauty of a relationship is that when you do love one another, you're creating that emotional connection with them to then continue the relationship.

05:01:01.620 And it will, right, and you'll see improvement and you get to teach each other what you like and don't like.

05:01:06.240 You don't need experience to tell them, oh, I like it done to you this way or that way when you get to learn that with each other and continue to explore.

05:01:14.080 By experience, I didn't, by experience, I didn't mean, like, sexual experience, like, particularly, like, what moves do you like?

05:01:22.860 Like, I mean, that's obviously, like, teachable and whatever.

05:01:27.060 That's between two parts.

05:01:28.260 I'm talking about, like, just experience with relationships in general.

05:01:32.240 I did not, I was not, I want to really, like.

05:01:34.960 Not sexual experience.

05:01:35.900 Yeah.

05:01:36.380 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

05:01:37.580 Okay.

05:01:38.000 Yeah.

05:01:38.500 Okay.

05:01:39.240 Just so we have that clear.

05:01:40.440 Sure.

05:01:40.600 I was not talking about, like, oh, I like it this way and whatever.

05:01:43.980 Okay.

05:01:44.180 Yeah.

05:01:44.380 But, I mean, I've certainly heard that as a rebuttal to men preferring women who.

05:01:48.960 Oh, like, oh, like.

05:01:50.140 Oh, she's not going to.

05:01:50.860 She's not going to be better than the girls.

05:01:52.180 Yeah.

05:01:52.400 Oh, God, no, no, no, no.

05:01:53.500 No, but I've definitely heard that, like, if a guy's like, oh, I prefer to go with a low body count and they're trying to argue, oh, body count doesn't matter.

05:01:59.520 It's like, well, oh, but what about the Gluck Gluck 9,000?

05:02:04.920 Right.

05:02:06.100 I kind of want to wrap this.

05:02:07.820 I mean, what, I want to kind of make a conclusion for myself just on this whole topic is I feel like women who have a low body count want to feel like, oh, I'm more valuable and I'm better than a girl. 0.93

05:02:20.600 That has a high body count.

05:02:21.600 And I feel like sometimes women with a high body count are trying to be like, oh, well, I'm better because I could do X, Y, Z and better than you. 0.89

05:02:27.820 And I think both of those takes are, like, absolutely horrible.

05:02:30.640 I think there's no one's better than the other.

05:02:32.900 I think that if you don't, you know, if you have a low body count, that's fine.

05:02:39.660 If you have a high body count, that's fine.

05:02:40.860 That's my whole point.

05:02:41.360 It doesn't matter either way.

05:02:43.140 When I was talking about experience, I meant more just, like, relationship experience and, like, what you want and don't want in your partner, like, as a whole, not as in bed.

05:02:53.080 But you said that body count is irrelevant and that men are weird for wanting young virgins.

05:02:59.820 Well, yes, young virgins.

05:03:01.700 I mean, look, and I think it's strange and I think that you should expect to be with somebody with the same, like, morals as you. 0.99

05:03:07.280 Like, if you're a guy who's slept with a bunch of women, then you're, like, a hypocrite for wanting a virgin. 0.99

05:03:14.060 And I think we can agree on that. 1.00

05:03:15.280 Oh, I 100% agree on that.

05:03:16.680 Yeah.

05:03:17.300 And that's all I said.

05:03:18.740 Hot take. 0.79

05:03:18.960 Hot take here.

05:03:19.640 You disagree?

05:03:20.540 Well, I think, as a guy, if you're, let's say you have a high body count as a guy, I don't think it's, I think it's perfectly reasonable for you to prefer to date women with a low body count.

05:03:32.880 Sure.

05:03:33.440 Yeah.

05:03:33.960 But those women don't have to date you because you have a high body count. 1.00

05:03:38.740 What do you mean?

05:03:39.340 Like, it's...

05:03:40.120 No, nobody has to date anybody, but...

05:03:41.900 Yeah, I mean, it's reasonable, you're allowed to have a preference on absolutely anything.

05:03:46.320 There's no one saying you can't have a preference on, like, anything.

05:03:49.440 But I think it's kind of...

05:03:51.400 You think it's a double standard?

05:03:52.260 I think it's not necessarily a double standard.

05:03:53.600 I think it might be kind of unrealistic.

05:03:55.340 Like, if a man came up to me and was like, oh, I like that you're a virgin and he has 300 bodies, I'm going to be like, you could know.

05:04:02.320 And I think most women who are saving themselves, I don't like that term, but saving themselves would agree.

05:04:09.480 Like, you probably want someone who's...

05:04:10.900 Yeah, for sure.

05:04:10.960 There are...

05:04:12.200 That may very well be the case, but there's definitely women who, I think, generally speaking, women care maybe a little bit less or quite a bit less when it comes to their, you know... 1.00

05:04:22.540 And it is...

05:04:23.700 I don't know if I necessarily, like, agree with that standard, but, like, I've definitely hung out with or gone on dates with guys who have, in my opinion, a relatively high body count.

05:04:36.260 And as much as I'm willing to forgive it, I wouldn't sleep with them, probably.

05:04:40.500 Yeah.

05:04:40.960 Sorry.

05:04:42.140 You would?

05:04:43.020 I would not sleep with them.

05:04:43.720 Would not because they have a high body count. 0.99

05:04:45.340 Yeah.

05:04:45.600 And honestly, what's high for a man, in my opinion, is probably not the same as what's high for a woman, in my opinion, which is biased, but just logically and realistically, that's how it works.

05:04:56.720 But you think it's kind of, like, hypocritical, kind of double standard?

05:04:59.700 Like, if a guy with a high body count wants a girl with a low body count or...

05:05:02.560 Yeah.

05:05:02.920 I mean, I don't think it's necessarily a double standard. 0.84

05:05:05.040 I just think it's hypocritical. 0.66

05:05:06.360 I think that if you...

05:05:09.200 I mean, maybe, I guess, double standard is the right word for it.

05:05:12.000 I just feel like if you expect your partner to have certain morals, then you should have the same morals as well.

05:05:17.260 So, yes, I guess it is...

05:05:18.040 Well, I mean, my rebuttal to that is, does there need to be perfect reciprocity?

05:05:24.280 No.

05:05:24.940 Well, what I'm trying to get at is, does there need to be perfect equivalent between what the two parts...

05:05:32.000 Like, for example, can we all agree, like, a lot of women would be very attracted to, like, a very wealthy man?

05:05:39.460 Yeah.

05:05:40.180 Yes.

05:05:40.460 In order for her to be attracted to him, does she, too, also need to be wealthy? 0.90

05:05:46.060 No.

05:05:46.600 No.

05:05:46.880 Or what about a man who's tall?

05:05:48.800 Need she also be tall to be attracted to a man who's tall?

05:05:52.520 Or what about a guy who's funny?

05:05:54.660 Need a woman be funny herself to be attracted to a man who's funny? 1.00

05:05:58.960 But I think there's quality...

05:06:00.040 Yeah, you have to be funny.

05:06:01.560 No, but people desire traits in their partner that they do not necessarily possess themselves.

05:06:08.040 So, in this case, a man who has a high body count, I think he may very well desire a woman with a low body count because a low body count is a desirable thing. 0.97

05:06:18.240 So, despite...

05:06:19.240 I mean, he's allowed to desire...

05:06:20.040 Morals.

05:06:20.540 I'm talking about, like, just having, like, the same morals.

05:06:23.420 Because, like, sense of humor is not a moral.

05:06:25.940 Height is not a moral.

05:06:27.080 So, body count or the amount of, you know, sex... 0.88

05:06:30.920 But maybe he's changed.

05:06:32.500 Maybe he had a hoe face. 1.00

05:06:34.020 Maybe she had a hoe face. 1.00

05:06:37.400 Yeah, I definitely...

05:06:38.120 True, but he could still have a preference.

05:06:39.600 Maybe he had a hoe face. 1.00

05:06:40.440 I mean, you're allowed to have a desire and a reference.

05:06:41.140 But she's more likely to be psychologically affected by it.

05:06:44.100 That actually is not true.

05:06:46.080 And I know at study, it's the same for men and women.

05:06:49.200 Look up Helen Fisher. 0.82

05:06:50.320 It's not one study.

05:06:51.340 It's not one study.

05:06:52.080 Statistically, when a man has a...

05:06:53.740 She actually showed me this.

05:06:54.600 When a man has a higher body count, it does drive up divorce rates and stuff.

05:06:59.200 But psychologically speaking, orgasm is an oxytocin release for women and a dopamine release for men.

05:07:05.500 And that is the facts.

05:07:06.940 It is psychology.

05:07:07.800 It is your brain.

05:07:08.620 It is your biology.

05:07:09.440 And you cannot deny that.

05:07:11.020 I don't understand why you're trying to dispute things that we have multiple studies on.

05:07:15.860 I just feel like I'm, like, repeating myself a lot.

05:07:17.740 I feel like y'all are repeating yourself a lot.

05:07:18.520 Because you will not accept that we are telling you science.

05:07:24.900 Okay, but I would like to know...

05:07:26.500 Sorry, I don't know.

05:07:27.260 No, you're good.

05:07:27.700 Go.

05:07:28.040 I would like to know how you're disputing.

05:07:30.540 We're giving you science.

05:07:31.800 And you're disputing it by saying, no, that's not true.

05:07:33.640 It's not like we're giving you opinions.

05:07:34.280 Without providing any nuance to your taste.

05:07:36.680 It's also easy to say, like, body count shouldn't matter because people with higher body counts and lower body counts value sex very differently.

05:07:43.040 I agree 100%.

05:07:44.500 It's obviously a very different moral standing.

05:07:49.440 Oh, my goodness.

05:07:52.160 I feel like I made all my points.

05:07:54.140 We're going around circles.

05:07:55.300 And to, like, take on, like, what you said, I feel like you're allowed to desire and have preferences.

05:08:02.000 It's just, like, the things you listed, like, personality traits are so much different than purity.

05:08:06.060 Mm-hmm.

05:08:06.440 But, okay, the whole argument is, well, a guy with a high body count, he shouldn't want a woman. 0.99

05:08:13.640 He should match up with a woman who also has a high body count because, you know, that's fair. 1.00

05:08:18.600 But it's like, okay, well, both men and women, we're not the same. 0.71

05:08:24.160 Like, we desire certain characteristics that we ourselves do not possess.

05:08:28.180 For example, if you're a super masculine guy, need you date a super masculine woman or can you be attracted, shocker, to a woman who's more feminine?

05:08:36.280 No, I agree with that.

05:08:37.120 Because then a woman can also prefer to have a man with a lower body count just the same, even if she had a higher body count. 1.00

05:08:42.820 I also think body count also doesn't have to matter so much.

05:08:46.360 I mean, Matt and I literally never talked about it once until we started watching whatever.

05:08:50.220 Is he still in the chat?

05:08:51.400 Probably.

05:08:52.080 He's probably there.

05:08:53.160 I don't know.

05:08:54.160 Matt.

05:08:54.300 Hold on.

05:08:54.600 Matt.

05:08:55.220 Matt.

05:08:55.800 You find out that your girl fiancé over here, she reveals to you.

05:09:01.520 Did you guys ever talk about it?

05:09:03.200 Yeah, like, after we watched your show, like, five times.

05:09:05.480 But prior to watching our show, you got never disclosed to each other.

05:09:09.320 Not even once.

05:09:10.440 Did he share his body count?

05:09:11.740 I don't know if you want to share it, but.

05:09:13.300 It was, like, higher than mine, for sure.

05:09:15.220 I don't remember exactly.

05:09:15.720 You said you were, like, 14, I think.

05:09:16.680 I think it was, like, above 30, though, for sure.

05:09:18.400 You said you were.

05:09:18.920 Yeah.

05:09:19.900 What?

05:09:20.540 His name's Matt, right?

05:09:21.700 Yeah.

05:09:22.000 Matt.

05:09:23.840 She, Ooga, what is he calling you?

05:09:25.600 Ooga Booga?

05:09:26.580 Boobaloo. 0.98

05:09:27.020 Booga, booga, booga. 0.97

05:09:29.740 Matt.

05:09:31.100 Boobala? 1.00

05:09:31.860 Yeah.

05:09:32.920 Okay.

05:09:33.680 She reveals that her body count is 300.

05:09:38.000 Is the wedding off, dude?

05:09:39.340 Come on.

05:09:39.660 Be honest.

05:09:40.160 Let us know in the chat.

05:09:41.600 Yeah.

05:09:42.100 Wasn't that mine?

05:09:42.740 I was just kidding.

05:09:43.480 I was like, wasn't that mine?

05:09:45.000 I think I know his answer, but, yeah.

05:09:47.100 I would be interesting to know.

05:09:49.200 Word.

05:09:49.760 Let's move on from this.

05:09:50.800 We have another tape video.

05:09:53.120 Another one.

05:09:54.280 Another one.

05:09:55.700 I think we're going to do four, but we're just going to do three, I think.

05:09:58.820 Is this it?

05:09:59.780 Or is this?

05:10:00.720 Wait.

05:10:01.100 Which one?

05:10:01.540 There's two, right?

05:10:02.860 This one's two minutes.

05:10:04.800 Play it.

05:10:06.520 Life Without Children is very good.

05:10:07.920 Oh, I don't know.

05:10:09.900 Next.

05:10:10.700 Let's see the next.

05:10:11.660 Actually, no.

05:10:12.300 I think we're good on the tape videos.

05:10:15.020 I do want the girls to rate someone's Instagram here before we... 0.96

05:10:18.460 Okay.

05:10:19.140 Two people's Instagrams.

05:10:22.100 Actually.

05:10:23.060 Here.

05:10:23.360 Do you know...

05:10:24.200 I'm going to go pull it up.

05:10:27.380 Maddie, if you can read the soup chat and then ask the girls their final thoughts if they have any.

05:10:30.720 Made you look gain.

05:10:32.160 Mwahaha.

05:10:33.500 Quickly Google Mega Worms. 0.97

05:10:35.140 Thoughts on cuddle therapy.

05:10:36.420 Stop talking, Carly.

05:10:37.500 Brian, any chance Matthew Hoosey on a future show?

05:10:40.820 That was so many different points in one question.

05:10:42.800 That would be cool.

05:10:43.140 The dating coach?

05:10:43.960 Yeah.

05:10:44.240 I don't know who that is.

05:10:45.320 It's the dating coach.

05:10:46.080 He's neat.

05:10:46.540 I don't know if that would be cool.

05:10:47.160 He has some cool...

05:10:47.940 He's like Australian or something? 0.99

05:10:49.200 Or New Zealand?

05:10:50.060 Yeah.

05:10:50.580 He's just a neat guy I'm thinking of.

05:10:52.700 I like him and Jackson.

05:10:54.240 The Jackson guy.

05:10:54.840 I don't know who he is.

05:10:55.440 I don't know who he is.

05:10:56.080 I don't know who he is.

05:10:56.680 He's going to Instagram.

05:10:58.360 I don't know.

05:10:59.340 I don't know.

05:11:00.620 Oh.

05:11:00.940 Bala underscore Germany donated $99.

05:11:04.660 TTS, this is very nice podcast.

05:11:06.920 Aw.

05:11:07.140 I wish you all a very nice time.

05:11:10.160 Bala Germany. 0.52

05:11:11.380 Thank you, man.

05:11:11.900 I appreciate it.

05:11:12.400 Thank you.

05:11:12.600 Wait, so what are our thoughts on cuddle therapy?

05:11:15.480 I didn't know that was a thing.

05:11:16.760 It is a thing.

05:11:17.760 It is.

05:11:18.260 It's a little weird.

05:11:18.840 Oh, wait.

05:11:19.260 I actually heard where people can just cuddle with you.

05:11:21.520 Yeah, you hire someone to just cuddle with you.

05:11:25.200 And like talk about your life.

05:11:26.620 Yeah.

05:11:28.100 It's a thing.

05:11:29.120 I feel like I...

05:11:30.020 I can see that.

05:11:31.240 It's just...

05:11:31.800 I would not do it.

05:11:32.720 I feel like I'd be a little bit weirded out if I just like had someone cuddle with me

05:11:37.020 while like some random person...

05:11:38.740 Oh, to pay for it?

05:11:39.240 Yeah.

05:11:40.240 It's just scary again because you're bonding with that person that you're not going to

05:11:43.980 have a relationship with.

05:11:44.980 Yeah.

05:11:45.120 Like it's just going to damage you.

05:11:47.260 Cuddling is a very intimate thing.

05:11:48.220 I mean, as much as I wouldn't personally do it, I can see at a really low point of your

05:11:52.900 life if you have nobody else how that would be helpful.

05:11:54.860 Yeah.

05:11:55.200 Yeah.

05:11:55.400 Yeah, sure.

05:11:56.520 Yeah.

05:11:57.040 If it works for you, do it.

05:11:58.600 And he was talking about Matthew Hussey.

05:11:59.960 I think I actually emailed Matthew Hussey a while back inviting him on, but I don't

05:12:05.360 think he got back to me, but I'd be down to have him on.

05:12:08.180 It'd be pretty interesting because he's a female dating coach. 1.00

05:12:11.600 Is that the guy who I always see on my TikTok where I was like, the proper way to make a

05:12:16.180 woman hip-stakes with you, whatever. 1.00

05:12:17.860 Is he like...

05:12:18.780 I was trying, but it didn't come out.

05:12:20.480 No, I don't think...

05:12:21.260 He's got like an accent.

05:12:23.300 Every take I've heard has been about sex, or is that the wrong person?

05:12:26.560 No, that's not him.

05:12:27.340 Okay, never mind.

05:12:27.920 He's British.

05:12:28.500 British guy.

05:12:29.180 That's right, yeah.

05:12:29.800 What's mango worms?

05:12:31.320 What?

05:12:31.880 They said Google mango worms.

05:12:33.980 That's a bad idea.

05:12:35.180 I don't know.

05:12:35.520 Oh, good.

05:12:37.300 Here, we're going to get your guys' rating on this gentleman, and then we're going to

05:12:41.460 wrap up the show.

05:12:44.420 Eight.

05:12:45.460 He's wearing yellow. 0.95

05:12:46.720 He's crazy. 0.67

05:12:48.200 Oh, wait. 1.00

05:12:48.680 Hold on.

05:12:49.120 Here, we'll come back.

05:12:49.920 Hey, Swordless.

05:12:52.100 Nice. 0.88

05:12:52.220 Love and sex are completely different things.

05:12:53.920 Thank you.

05:12:54.240 Good to see you in the chat, man.

05:12:55.180 You can't explain why you love someone, but you can explain why you have an attraction

05:13:00.080 to someone.

05:13:01.400 And ma-a-a-a-addy, thanks for sitting there again. 0.98

05:13:05.380 And morning slash afternoon slash evening slash night slash whatever all.

05:13:09.860 Yo, Swordless, thank you.

05:13:12.620 Good to see you in the chat, man.

05:13:13.800 Swordless is a long-time supporter.

05:13:16.780 And he's a giga-chat.

05:13:22.240 Okay.

05:13:22.620 Thank you, man.

05:13:23.260 Appreciate your...

05:13:24.240 Glad you were here.

05:13:25.020 Who is this?

05:13:25.880 This guy, his name... 1.00

05:13:27.420 Fuck, I forgot what his actual name is. 0.99

05:13:30.180 Looks like a Ziz disciple. 1.00

05:13:31.080 Yeah, he does look like a Ziz disciple. 1.00

05:13:33.080 Scroll down.

05:13:34.100 Scroll down.

05:13:37.240 Let's see.

05:13:37.840 Is he a bodybuilder?

05:13:38.520 Oh, wow.

05:13:38.800 Yeah, he looks like a bodybuilder.

05:13:40.080 Yeah, a bodybuilder guy.

05:13:41.540 Seems nice.

05:13:43.480 He's hotter than the last one.

05:13:45.420 Oh.

05:13:46.260 Matthew McCarthy donated $100.

05:13:49.500 All right, Brian, you got me to $800.

05:13:52.560 I would not care at all about my Boobala body count. 0.97

05:13:55.700 What matters is that she's number one honest, loyal, and a genuine angel, which she is.

05:14:01.780 Get me on the show with her versus the Red Bill Avengers.

05:14:05.300 You won't be disappointed.

05:14:06.140 Aww.

05:14:07.660 That's true.

05:14:08.580 Aww.

05:14:10.180 That was a nice one.

05:14:12.100 I gotta call Cap on that.

05:14:14.040 I gotta call Cap.

05:14:14.860 I totally believe him.

05:14:15.920 I mean, I don't know.

05:14:16.680 But yeah, no, call Cap all you want.

05:14:17.840 There's men like that in the world.

05:14:18.740 All you want.

05:14:19.860 You don't know the real me.

05:14:22.040 No, but I mean, he obviously knows your true body count, but like, I feel like it would

05:14:27.120 be a different circumstance to reveal.

05:14:28.760 Would it be a different me if it was so many?

05:14:30.640 Who knows?

05:14:31.380 Who knows?

05:14:31.720 But thank you, man.

05:14:32.180 Appreciate it.

05:14:32.620 We can talk.

05:14:34.640 Let's pull back up.

05:14:36.260 Instagram guy.

05:14:36.980 All right.

05:14:37.360 Keep scrolling.

05:14:38.580 All right.

05:14:38.840 So he's very fit.

05:14:39.880 Got a cute dog.

05:14:40.780 He's very fit.

05:14:43.080 See, men, I feel, okay, I'm not like. 1.00

05:14:45.640 I feel like somebody says it wrong.

05:14:46.900 Men don't want women posting revealing photos, but isn't that also revealing photos? 0.85

05:14:52.240 Wait, what?

05:14:53.020 I feel like men don't want.

05:14:54.080 This guy's on Young LA, isn't he?

05:14:55.660 Is he?

05:14:55.960 I think he is.

05:14:56.780 I think he is.

05:14:56.800 Men don't want women posting revealing photos, but are those kind of revealing photos as well?

05:15:00.100 Oh, sorry.

05:15:00.780 Can we?

05:15:01.120 I did not mean to talk to you.

05:15:01.860 No, you're good.

05:15:02.380 I was just like whispering to me.

05:15:03.240 Can we look at his bio and see if he's a Young LA athlete?

05:15:05.500 Yeah, we'll scroll up.

05:15:06.480 I'm trying to remember. 1.00

05:15:07.500 Fuck. 1.00

05:15:07.760 I've heard of Young LA before. 1.00

05:15:09.180 It's our clothing sponsor.

05:15:11.320 Yeah, you can scroll all the way up.

05:15:13.200 Just to the very top.

05:15:14.200 It's like clothing?

05:15:14.820 Mm-hmm.

05:15:15.160 It's fitness clothing.

05:15:16.560 Very, very top to the.

05:15:18.660 Michael, that's Michael.

05:15:19.420 Young LA coach Sony.

05:15:20.800 Oh, my God.

05:15:21.200 Yeah, he is on Young LA.

05:15:22.580 Oh, wow.

05:15:23.280 Okay, you guys are.

05:15:24.260 He's definitely a cis disciple, but I was thinking like he was like a meat rider, but he's sponsored.

05:15:28.800 Wait, a meat?

05:15:29.340 What's a meat rider?

05:15:30.380 Meat rider.

05:15:30.740 He just looks like a Young LA Avenger.

05:15:32.920 Yeah, yeah.

05:15:33.260 Every single pose.

05:15:34.340 It's someone like the superhero T, the pump cover joggers. 0.99

05:15:39.320 Everything.

05:15:39.480 Like everything.

05:15:40.420 Young LA, the bag, like everything.

05:15:42.180 Yeah.

05:15:42.520 Now, in addition to him being pretty ripped, I would like to point out, because I want,

05:15:47.740 I'm going to ask you guys if you would, you know, you'd date him.

05:15:50.960 And I want you guys to actually answer if you were single, okay?

05:15:53.380 Okay, he was the main tank in his World of Warcraft raiding guild, okay, guys?

05:16:02.680 He played a Tauren warrior.

05:16:04.920 He got to Naxx.

05:16:05.900 You know, they cleared it to KT.

05:16:08.100 You know, he was playing on Feralina, I think.

05:16:11.120 You know, he's like a kind of a deep, like DPS really solid, but he's a tank.

05:16:15.320 So, you know, like he plays World of Warcraft a lot.

05:16:18.060 So, maybe that's a pro.

05:16:19.340 Maybe that's a negative.

05:16:20.080 But, like, also very fit guy.

05:16:22.060 Very nice guy.

05:16:24.200 We were going to have him on the show.

05:16:25.840 Unfortunately, you know, it didn't work out.

05:16:27.560 But maybe, hey, Michael, if you see this, let's have you on the show.

05:16:34.500 Do you, are, yes, Smasher Pat? 0.98

05:16:38.900 I don't know what the right fucking is. 0.98

05:16:40.500 Not because of the World of Warcraft part. 0.98

05:16:43.400 I like a man who games a little bit.

05:16:45.400 Okay.

05:16:45.780 Because I don't see myself dating a Ziz disciple. 1.00

05:16:49.660 Is he?

05:16:49.980 I don't know if he's a.

05:16:51.500 He very much looks like.

05:16:53.120 I don't know for sure.

05:16:54.000 You don't see yourself dating a.

05:16:55.420 Isn't your boyfriend?

05:16:56.520 No, my boyfriend is not a Ziz disciple.

05:16:57.560 No.

05:16:58.460 No.

05:16:59.640 He's never striped.

05:17:00.920 No, no, no.

05:17:01.940 Oh, yeah.

05:17:02.320 They have.

05:17:03.140 My boyfriend, like, classic bodybuilding.

05:17:04.780 Okay.

05:17:05.240 Not harsh.

05:17:06.200 There's probably somewhere on his computer where, like, when he's not with you, he's, like,

05:17:10.440 playing Tevez.

05:17:12.680 Don't.

05:17:13.060 Don't.

05:17:13.240 You're giving me nightmares.

05:17:15.080 But, yeah, no.

05:17:15.860 But not because of the World of Warcraft.

05:17:17.280 The gaming would be cool.

05:17:18.540 It's the Ziz disciple thing. 0.97

05:17:20.580 Michael, confirm or denier.

05:17:21.860 Use Ziz disciple. 1.00

05:17:22.760 What about you?

05:17:24.200 Do you go for him?

05:17:24.960 Would you date him?

05:17:26.320 Wait.

05:17:27.140 Yeah, no.

05:17:27.720 I'd pass.

05:17:30.020 Both ways.

05:17:31.760 Because of the World of Warcraft thing?

05:17:33.760 No, not at all.

05:17:34.500 I love gamers.

05:17:35.260 He's just not your type?

05:17:36.160 Yeah, he's just not my type.

05:17:37.200 Sorry.

05:17:37.540 I'm sorry, Michael, dude.

05:17:38.520 I'm sorry, bro.

05:17:39.840 I feel like he's an attractive guy.

05:17:41.900 I feel like I.

05:17:42.780 Intimally?

05:17:43.320 Oh, sorry.

05:17:43.820 I feel like he's an attractive guy.

05:17:46.100 I don't know if our personalities would clash.

05:17:49.100 I guess I.

05:17:49.600 Well, you haven't met him.

05:17:50.400 Yeah, exactly.

05:17:50.940 Exactly.

05:17:51.320 I think just having to meet.

05:17:52.840 Seeing more than a picture.

05:17:53.980 I think it would be like a video or something like, okay.

05:17:57.060 I don't think the World of Warcraft, like, being like a super high

05:18:00.780 rank, if he was, like, super high rank in the military, I'd be like,

05:18:04.800 hmm, okay.

05:18:05.920 Like, okay, the military.

05:18:08.200 But I think World of Warcraft's cool.

05:18:10.700 Like, I think it's cool.

05:18:12.000 Sure.

05:18:13.480 I completely second what Carly One said.

05:18:17.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

05:18:17.900 Really?

05:18:18.520 It's just.

05:18:19.280 Why would we?

05:18:19.940 I mean, it's obvious that we would have the same opinion.

05:18:23.780 Like, he seems cool.

05:18:25.600 Yeah, he does seem cool.

05:18:26.260 And a lot of people do like that kind of content.

05:18:28.060 Yeah.

05:18:28.600 But I think, personally, the subgroup of fitness that we're in, it's a little bit

05:18:33.800 cringe.

05:18:35.500 Not that I wanted to speak on that.

05:18:36.800 I have plenty of cringe content myself.

05:18:37.120 Wait, you guys are cringe?

05:18:39.080 No, no.

05:18:39.620 Or he's cringe.

05:18:40.720 The whole Ziz Disciple thing. 0.99

05:18:42.060 I think it's really outplayed.

05:18:43.360 Like, it was a trend for a while.

05:18:44.960 It's very, like, 14-year-old boy who wants to do sawarms.

05:18:47.700 Like, yeah.

05:18:48.960 I don't know how to explain it.

05:18:51.080 Is he not, like, ripped enough for you?

05:18:53.680 Don't get me wrong.

05:18:54.380 He has a very nice physique.

05:18:56.000 Yeah.

05:18:56.060 He does.

05:18:56.680 But, like, you said you like really tall, like, buff guys, right?

05:18:59.660 Yeah.

05:19:00.560 He's not big enough.

05:19:02.120 Is that right?

05:19:02.940 Like, what's that?

05:19:03.520 I mean, I can't see how tall he is. 0.97

05:19:05.920 Who's that guy who, like, all the girls are fucking simping over? 0.95

05:19:09.060 Like, really? 0.99

05:19:10.380 Bumsworth?

05:19:11.400 Bumsworth.

05:19:11.800 Oh, Chris Bumstead?

05:19:13.320 Four times Olympia winner Chris Bumstead?

05:19:16.760 Yeah, no, I don't think...

05:19:17.160 Is that more your, like, physique type?

05:19:19.960 Well, he's Mr. Olympia.

05:19:21.360 That's kind of.

05:19:22.520 He's, like, number one in the world.

05:19:23.880 Absurd.

05:19:24.340 Yeah, that's insane.

05:19:25.480 That's, like, looking at, like, a superhero and being, like, hmm.

05:19:28.280 Wait, question.

05:19:28.860 Would you break up with your current boyfriend from Chris Bumstead?

05:19:30.980 No.

05:19:31.420 Bumstead?

05:19:31.920 Uh-uh.

05:19:32.320 Uh-uh.

05:19:32.420 My current boyfriend is 250 pounds lean and Bench is, like, 550.

05:19:36.360 I'm not...

05:19:36.680 Okay, so he's...

05:19:37.520 He's a large man.

05:19:39.260 Okay.

05:19:39.560 Yeah, I'm definitely not lacking.

05:19:40.800 The question...

05:19:42.300 Or you were saying earlier about, like, the hotel.

05:19:44.260 Like, you know, how the guy will look at the screen and be like, hey, if we need to evacuate,

05:19:48.500 I think something like that's sexy.

05:19:50.340 If he does stuff like that in general, I think that's sexy because I like dudes that, like,

05:19:55.140 are always thinking, like, they're looking around and they're, like, something's off.

05:19:58.280 Like, I think it's...

05:19:59.020 For sure.

05:19:59.300 I think that's hot.

05:19:59.840 Like, they're really aware because I'm not.

05:20:01.840 And like you said, with attraction, I like that.

05:20:04.760 I'm, like, yeah.

05:20:07.660 What?

05:20:08.840 Wait, so Chris Bumstead is, like...

05:20:10.660 Oh, oh, um...

05:20:12.340 Who do you think, like, in the industry has your ideal physique?

05:20:15.600 Bradley Martin?

05:20:16.720 No.

05:20:17.380 Who in the industry has the ideal man physique of what I would seek?

05:20:20.460 Like, for what you would think is attractive.

05:20:21.780 Leonardo DiCaprio.

05:20:22.480 Well, I'm not gonna...

05:20:23.060 I'm not gonna...

05:20:23.860 I'm not gonna name drop.

05:20:25.320 I just...

05:20:27.380 I guess it's a...

05:20:30.460 As much as...

05:20:32.260 I don't hate to admit it, but...

05:20:36.460 I don't know.

05:20:39.300 I don't want, like, I don't want to offend anyone, but...

05:20:41.680 I think definitely the height part is more important than how big you are.

05:20:45.900 Because I've tried it out.

05:20:47.500 I've tried out, like, bigger guys who are shorter.

05:20:50.180 It's just, like...

05:20:51.680 Oh, you're good.

05:20:53.400 Most of the time, it ends up being an insecurity.

05:20:56.620 And that's the part that is unattractive.

05:21:04.240 When...

05:21:04.720 Go ahead.

05:21:05.800 When the shortness is an insecurity.

05:21:07.540 And so, that's why I just can't do...

05:21:11.860 Like, I like when a guy's tall.

05:21:14.780 But he doesn't...

05:21:16.040 He doesn't have to be as big as Sebum. 0.97

05:21:18.120 That's kind of ridiculous. 0.89

05:21:20.220 I think it's also... 0.80

05:21:21.220 I don't know if it's necessarily fair,

05:21:22.980 but I think it's more likely for the two of us

05:21:25.260 to have unrealistic physique expectations

05:21:27.360 because we're constantly around, like, pro bodybuilders.

05:21:31.180 Yeah.

05:21:31.680 I feel the same way.

05:21:32.820 Do you guys like to be so...

05:21:34.360 You know, sometimes in the same industry,

05:21:36.060 like, let's say if someone told me, 0.75

05:21:38.060 oh, would you date a porn star? 0.98

05:21:39.800 I would say no. 0.85

05:21:40.900 I would say no because I like the opposite.

05:21:42.900 And would you say, like,

05:21:44.120 you want to be the bodybuilder in the relationship.

05:21:46.240 You want to be...

05:21:46.840 Or no.

05:21:47.260 You like that.

05:21:48.040 Because I, like...

05:21:49.280 Like I said earlier,

05:21:50.380 it does make me feel a little bit masculine

05:21:52.440 and I need someone who's going to drown out that masculinity. 0.97

05:21:56.400 Gotcha.

05:21:56.840 And who's going to be just...

05:21:57.820 I think definitely, like, if there's a spectrum,

05:22:00.020 we're definitely way farther on the masculine side.

05:22:02.660 You need somebody to outweigh them.

05:22:04.000 Outweigh it.

05:22:04.420 Yeah.

05:22:04.640 100%.

05:22:04.920 I mean...

05:22:06.460 I feel like you were also asking

05:22:08.160 if we would be with someone in our industry.

05:22:09.880 In the industry.

05:22:10.940 There's a lot of people who are fit and big

05:22:12.980 outside of the industry.

05:22:14.000 I honestly don't have a preference

05:22:15.920 of me dating someone who's in the industry

05:22:18.460 or not in the industry.

05:22:19.600 I would prefer a private relationship if I had one.

05:22:22.300 Yeah.

05:22:22.640 And so that would be hard

05:22:23.660 if I dated someone in the fitness industry,

05:22:25.160 but it's not impossible.

05:22:26.240 Yeah.

05:22:26.620 It's so strange to me.

05:22:27.860 Like, my brain, like,

05:22:28.840 I don't know why I can't wrap around it,

05:22:30.360 but if someone's like, 0.86

05:22:31.120 yeah, do you want to date a porn star? 0.63

05:22:32.240 I'd be like, no, I don't at all. 0.93

05:22:34.620 Like, I have no idea why.

05:22:36.020 I can't explain it.

05:22:37.420 I mean, that makes a lot of sense.

05:22:38.900 Would I what?

05:22:39.460 A male gigolo? 0.94

05:22:41.280 No.

05:22:41.900 I don't know why, though.

05:22:43.340 I can't, like,

05:22:43.940 I can explain everything else,

05:22:45.060 but I can't explain why I wouldn't want to do that.

05:22:47.580 Maybe you just want to, like,

05:22:49.360 have your career for yourself.

05:22:51.480 You know, it's like,

05:22:52.280 you have your job,

05:22:53.060 and then you kind of come home to him,

05:22:55.300 and you don't have to talk about work.

05:22:57.580 Like, work, you know?

05:22:58.760 Something different, like,

05:22:59.860 I'm like, what happened in your day

05:23:01.040 that was different?

05:23:01.680 Novelty, yeah.

05:23:02.160 I will say, oh, I'm so sorry.

05:23:04.500 I have one,

05:23:05.500 I'll circle you in here.

05:23:07.740 Would you ever pay a man for that?

05:23:11.960 Oh, for?

05:23:14.400 Just,

05:23:15.380 wouldn't you just get your chair in,

05:23:16.400 if you can, just do quietly.

05:23:17.300 Um,

05:23:18.600 so, um,

05:23:20.120 there is a sex shaman in,

05:23:23.180 um,

05:23:23.940 in India

05:23:25.100 that, um,

05:23:27.480 he does,

05:23:28.780 he does some sort,

05:23:30.880 he does some sort of,

05:23:32.680 um,

05:23:33.020 it's like a training,

05:23:34.720 like a training.

05:23:35.460 I would pay for that,

05:23:36.520 and I believe that that's involved,

05:23:38.160 but if it was involving the sex shaman,

05:23:41.700 yeah.

05:23:43.100 Okay.

05:23:43.800 Yeah.

05:23:44.280 So that would be,

05:23:44.880 that'd be,

05:23:45.280 would you date,

05:23:45.740 would you date Sony?

05:23:47.080 Um,

05:23:47.400 he was attractive,

05:23:48.460 so if he's like cool,

05:23:49.500 and if I was like single,

05:23:50.780 which I'm obviously not,

05:23:52.120 then yeah,

05:23:52.940 I think he's attractive,

05:23:53.900 and buff,

05:23:54.900 I'm definitely like fit guys

05:23:56.300 that are like in the fitness too,

05:23:57.720 yeah.

05:23:58.880 I mean,

05:23:59.340 he's attractive,

05:24:00.060 but other than that,

05:24:00.980 I don't know anything about him,

05:24:02.040 so.

05:24:02.580 Wait,

05:24:02.780 who's he bummed?

05:24:02.940 Is there a video of him?

05:24:03.940 Like his person?

05:24:04.380 No, we're talking about that guy,

05:24:05.180 we were just like.

05:24:05.580 Oh,

05:24:05.800 sorry,

05:24:06.060 sorry.

05:24:06.380 Is there like a video?

05:24:06.640 I don't know.

05:24:07.640 Uh,

05:24:07.840 just the photos.

05:24:09.840 Probs not.

05:24:11.920 Probs not.

05:24:13.040 Probs not.

05:24:14.960 Okay,

05:24:15.440 all right,

05:24:15.700 we're gonna wrap up,

05:24:16.740 uh,

05:24:17.120 let's see here,

05:24:18.400 anyone final thoughts before we wrap?

05:24:20.320 Speak now forever,

05:24:21.120 hold your peace.

05:24:22.400 Feminism has absolutely plagued American women, 1.00

05:24:25.100 and we need to do something to fix it,

05:24:29.240 and obviously it's scientific that us women 1.00

05:24:32.560 make connections with men,

05:24:34.540 and body count does matter,

05:24:36.420 and anyone who says it doesn't matter is lying.

05:24:39.380 Hell yeah.

05:24:39.880 I feel like I'm so happy that I got to be on this podcast,

05:24:43.360 and it's so nice to meet all you guys,

05:24:46.120 and have like a normal talk,

05:24:47.920 that was cool.

05:24:48.660 It was a fun time for sure.

05:24:50.400 Yeah,

05:24:50.720 it was awesome.

05:24:51.000 I had a good time too,

05:24:51.860 I'm just so tired guys,

05:24:53.100 I have two hours of sleep with me right now,

05:24:55.460 so,

05:24:56.940 yeah.

05:24:57.680 Good times.

05:24:58.920 It was great.

05:25:00.580 Good times,

05:25:01.880 okay,

05:25:02.360 did you have any more on the feminist stuff? 1.00

05:25:04.440 You said you're a feminist though, 1.00

05:25:05.520 right?

05:25:05.760 Don't you,

05:25:06.200 don't you object to what you just said?

05:25:07.400 I could say a lot of things on the feminist stuff. 1.00

05:25:09.760 Well,

05:25:10.320 would the femin,

05:25:11.080 the feminists,

05:25:12.020 that was when I asked earlier,

05:25:13.280 you said there's two types,

05:25:14.440 and I guess some feminists would disagree 1.00

05:25:16.060 that I was a feminist,

05:25:16.940 because.

05:25:17.380 See,

05:25:17.620 I wouldn't even classify myself as a feminist at all,

05:25:19.760 I mean,

05:25:19.980 yeah,

05:25:20.120 I'm pro-woman.

05:25:20.840 Pro-woman.

05:25:21.200 Pro-woman.

05:25:21.860 I love,

05:25:22.260 you know,

05:25:22.760 being pro-woman,

05:25:23.780 but the feminist movement in the modern day,

05:25:26.060 and age now it is,

05:25:27.140 has been completely distorted to not be a pro-woman,

05:25:29.460 even.

05:25:30.260 It's like anti.

05:25:32.140 It's anti-traditionalism,

05:25:34.360 it's anti-motherhood,

05:25:35.620 honestly.

05:25:36.320 I mean,

05:25:36.920 they're completely.

05:25:38.380 Hustle culture,

05:25:39.540 and that.

05:25:40.520 I mean,

05:25:40.900 they're,

05:25:41.380 yeah.

05:25:42.120 We haven't talked about abortion,

05:25:43.140 but they're pro-legal genocide,

05:25:44.340 and like anti-motherhood in today's day and age.

05:25:48.400 They want women to stay in the corporate world, 1.00

05:25:50.520 they want you to be a slave to your corporation,

05:25:53.680 they want women to get married later and later, 0.94

05:25:56.160 and the feminist movement has been the downfall, 1.00

05:25:59.640 I think,

05:26:00.000 of women in especially the past two decades.

05:26:03.900 Well,

05:26:04.340 I'll just say,

05:26:05.220 if I can say this,

05:26:07.000 that I don't think everything is so black and white like that.

05:26:10.960 Like, 0.64

05:26:11.120 I think there are women who do enjoy casual sex, 1.00

05:26:14.280 and who do enjoy promiscuity to an extent, 0.83

05:26:17.100 and things like that,

05:26:18.080 and I don't think that they have to be judged or looked down on for that,

05:26:22.700 because that's just the reality that not everybody's the same,

05:26:25.220 and that life in general isn't black and white.

05:26:28.860 Sure.

05:26:29.720 It's not black and white.

05:26:30.540 Yeah.

05:26:30.740 But I also think that,

05:26:32.140 sure, 0.78

05:26:32.340 if women want to say they enjoy casual sex, 0.98

05:26:34.760 and enjoy promiscuity,

05:26:36.480 then they have to also admit the harm that they're doing to themselves as well,

05:26:40.860 for in the long run.

05:26:41.600 Yeah,

05:26:43.660 I mean,

05:26:43.940 I'm in a super happy relationship,

05:26:46.160 and I have more bodies than some of the people here,

05:26:49.680 for sure.

05:26:50.720 Sure.

05:26:51.480 And,

05:26:52.220 yeah,

05:26:52.680 I mean,

05:26:52.920 honestly,

05:26:53.280 I think Matt and I are probably the most happy and the most in love that we've ever been with anyone else,

05:26:58.820 ever,

05:26:59.100 ever,

05:26:59.340 so,

05:27:00.860 it's good.

05:27:02.420 Exactly.

05:27:03.580 Word,

05:27:04.400 word,

05:27:05.780 and then I think the last thing I would just say on that is,

05:27:10.220 I don't know,

05:27:11.940 there's definitely,

05:27:12.680 like,

05:27:12.820 it's interesting,

05:27:13.560 because,

05:27:14.060 I mean,

05:27:14.380 I think even you said you think hookup culture is a bad thing,

05:27:17.840 well,

05:27:20.060 casual sex is sort of the antithesis of,

05:27:23.900 like,

05:27:26.140 how can you be against hookup culture,

05:27:27.660 but for casual sex?

05:27:29.800 I just said that people shouldn't be judged for their body count.

05:27:34.720 I didn't say that I was pro or against.

05:27:37.100 Well,

05:27:37.280 actually,

05:27:37.580 I am against,

05:27:38.020 you said you're against hookup culture.

05:27:39.760 I am against hookup culture.

05:27:41.220 I think it's,

05:27:41.820 like,

05:27:41.960 bad for women and men. 1.00

05:27:42.940 I'm so sorry,

05:27:43.600 guys,

05:27:43.700 I'm tired.

05:27:44.600 That's fine,

05:27:45.120 but,

05:27:45.240 anyways,

05:27:46.380 yeah,

05:27:46.700 yeah,

05:27:47.400 I,

05:27:47.940 all I said is that I don't think women or men should be judged for their body count,

05:27:51.740 and I think it doesn't matter,

05:27:53.060 but I am against hookup culture.

05:27:54.540 Unfortunately,

05:27:54.900 I couldn't get into that,

05:27:55.960 because I felt like I was,

05:27:57.200 you know,

05:27:57.480 like,

05:27:57.840 had to explain myself a lot about the body count stuff,

05:28:00.960 but I just,

05:28:02.160 I kind of wanted to,

05:28:02.980 I wanted to add the issue.

05:28:04.380 But I guess the whole thing about,

05:28:06.060 like,

05:28:06.200 oh,

05:28:06.400 we shouldn't judge people that engage in casual sex,

05:28:10.520 but also hookup culture bad.

05:28:12.820 I don't think you can have both.

05:28:15.840 Like,

05:28:17.040 if we,

05:28:18.240 if there's absolutely zero shame associated with just engaging in said hookup culture,

05:28:24.720 aka having casual sex,

05:28:26.020 then how do you combat hookup culture, 0.90

05:28:29.480 then how do you combat hookup culture?

05:28:29.500 Or do we just say,

05:28:31.880 well,

05:28:32.160 it's a bad thing,

05:28:33.280 but I guess we just keep the status quo going,

05:28:38.360 and it is what it is.

05:28:39.740 Mm-hmm.

05:28:41.060 You know?

05:28:42.600 Like,

05:28:44.920 I don't think,

05:28:46.980 like,

05:28:47.160 it's kind of,

05:28:48.340 they're,

05:28:48.560 they're conflicting to say hookup culture is bad,

05:28:52.320 but to also say,

05:28:53.380 well,

05:28:53.500 we shouldn't shame people that have casual sex and engage in hookup.

05:28:57.540 Like,

05:28:57.820 I don't think those two thoughts can coexist really.

05:29:02.380 You either,

05:29:03.260 you either,

05:29:04.260 uh, 0.97

05:29:05.900 say casual sex is bad, 0.99

05:29:08.000 hookup culture,

05:29:08.660 like,

05:29:09.000 the,

05:29:09.700 the two are opposed.

05:29:12.400 I mean,

05:29:13.360 I just feel like,

05:29:15.460 okay,

05:29:17.220 I'm running on like no juice here.

05:29:19.440 Um,

05:29:19.920 that's,

05:29:20.880 okay.

05:29:21.800 Yeah,

05:29:22.180 I know.

05:29:22.620 Okay,

05:29:22.780 I'm so sorry.

05:29:23.540 Whatever.

05:29:25.120 Here,

05:29:25.600 I'm just going to wrap up unless you,

05:29:27.220 no,

05:29:27.400 just to,

05:29:27.740 yeah,

05:29:27.900 please wrap up.

05:29:28.460 I'm,

05:29:28.820 my back hurts.

05:29:29.520 I'm dead.

05:29:31.220 Okay,

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Whatever Podcast - August 02, 2023

HEATED DEBATE Liberals vs. Conservatives vs. SHAMAN？! ｜ Dating Talk #89

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