HEATED DEBATE On NOT Reciprocating In The Bedroom？! ｜ Dating Talk #99
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Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we have a special guest on the show, a girl who is a streamer, content creator, and streamer's wife. We talk about her relationship status, what it's like being in a non-monogamous relationship, and what it means to be in a poly relationship.
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description go sub without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce excuse me introduce
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themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hi everyone i'm kathy i'm 24
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years old and i am a only fans creator welcome hi i'm pixie i'm also 24 years old and i do political
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streaming online hi i'm emmy i'm 26 and i'm a realtor and also content creator hi i'm alessia i'm 26 and i do
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only fans hi i'm 29 i'm a math physics science tutor and um i also do content creation on youtube
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hi i'm amy i'm 28 and i did high ticket sales i'm currently unemployed so i guess i'm just doing content
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right now okay welcome everybody guys we were gonna have a little more filled out panel but unfortunately
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we had some uh no shows and flakes so uh it is what it is but we're gonna have a good show tonight
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regardless so we're gonna go around the panel once more what is your current relationship status so are
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you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult
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uh if you're single how long have you been single what's your longest relationship go ahead
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um i'm currently dating um just dating um longest relationship probably like
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one year a little more than one one year yeah okay so you're you said you're currently dating
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yes so are you seeing one guy multiple guys a couple girls in there what's what's
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i'm not entirely sure um you're not sure about their gender
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it could be whatever it is whatever you want it to be okay non-binary okay um so you're not entirely
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sure so there's is there a do you have a main guy and like three side pieces i feel like you got game
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do i i think you got game i think you could get the bitches i have no game i have no game the male
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bitches and the female bitches you got no game you have zero game you look like you have game
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humble and has game that's part of the game can we have you tilt your microphone uh down just a
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little bit yeah so it's perfect a little less a little less and can you scoot it that way just a bit
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ocd brian over here yeah um so give it give us some deets what are the details you got you got
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one main dude couple some pieces i don't think i'm healed enough for actual healthy relationship
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but yeah you don't think you're healed enough yes from you got like um sepsis or what's the
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situation what's going on probably just like childhood stuff or like past relationship whatsoever
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past relationship but yeah i'm dating currently okay um but so what do you mean like what do you
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mean by dating currently like you're going on dates or you got do you have a situation ship with any guys
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potentially i mean there's there's there's no label whatsoever
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how many okay so you're dating how many dates have you been on in the past month
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the past month with like individual new people new people um a few i don't really keep count
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okay so you i'm just we gotta we gotta get a number on it you got seven
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boyfriends is that kind of the situation no it doesn't seven situation ships no not seven i would
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say more like two or three okay two to three situation ships are they all guys any girls in there
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just dudes um probably just guys you might i don't i'm you might not even be interested in women
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i'm just i mean i i think it's up to the people to define like what they are who they are and you
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can't really tell from the first date can you from the first date yeah i'd hope so wait so you're
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saying that some of them are trans i i i don't know i mean it might be maybe but that's what i'm
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asking because what do you mean you're not sure like from a first date like if they don't reveal
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it to me like i'm not gonna ask them if somebody is clearly presenting themselves like okay for
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instance me like do you like what gender am i i don't want to make in this you don't even want to
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make an assumption you can't tell you can't tell what gender i am i i can't tell but like if you
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tell me otherwise i will respect it right something is there something wrong no no you're perfectly
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fine i mean i obviously can tell that like you know you're a girl so like oh so i am a girl
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yes but if you say that you're something else i will respect that okay i'm actually i just want
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to let you know and i'm a hippopotamus so like if i just say some whatever i want okay i'm like
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i'm you should make a different animal because you're not you're pretty trim so i don't think
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hippopotamus would be the yeah i don't i don't know hey uh hold on just a sec yo fdg thank you for
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the 50 gifted memberships guys if you've been wondering why fdg is just dropping mad uh memberships
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in the uh chat on youtube i have a sugar mama she's my sugar mama and she pays me by gifting
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membership so uh she's dropping like 300 400 500 a show so thank you very much um uh so you
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lauren non-binary confirm or deny um confirm i i don't have it's like barbie i don't want to
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reveal the movie are we already getting into pronouns but it's like barbie down there uh-huh i i'm a
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it's a i'm a i'm actually a he wait so you you're a furry because you're a hippopotamus i'm a furry
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i'm a furry non-binary i respect that i respect that 100 okay so throughout the podcast if you slip
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up and like refer to me as a she like i could like get mad at you and stuff it's hipper hipper self
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yes okay i'll try my best thank you i appreciate you respecting hippopotamus
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okay moving on pixie what's what's your relationship situation i'm single as a pringle
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single as a pringle how long have you been single um since like february february yeah do you uh are
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you straight by what's your orientation i consider myself pan like pan yeah you uh pan that's where
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like gender identity uh it doesn't really you'll date men you'll date women you'll date transgender
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women you'll date non-binary you'll date transgender yeah basically um what is it i mean it takes a
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really long time for me to feel like truly like in love with someone um so i feel like it just yeah
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depends i feel like it depends on the person basically if i'm gonna end up being anything
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with them or not okay um so your last relationship was with a guy a girl it was with a guy i've only
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have had romantic relationships with guys have you ever hooked up with a girl um i've made out with a
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girl i i'm not gonna go i don't want to go further beyond kissing and telling okay for a life partner who
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do you see yourself ending up do you want a life partner i do want a life partner you want kids
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yeah i do want who do you see yourself ending up with i don't know a guy or girl because i mean if
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you want kids well i guess you could adopt right yeah i also use the sperm bank they have all these
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options they got those or surrogates surrogates yeah i feel like um i don't know traditionally i was
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raised in a very like catholic traditional household like conservative so you know i'm sure my parents
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would be happy if i was a man but it all depends on who i fall in love with because and you said
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you were raised in a conservative catholic household but you're pretty you consider yourself fairly
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progressive fairly liberal absolutely do you think that because you're you were raised in a very
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conservative traditional uh household that that kind of pushed you in the other direction
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i think um or did you just come to your own conclusions about politics well i think there's two
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things going on in here basically um my father being the conservative he is always taught me to
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never trust big government or just institutions in general sure so obviously growing up um i was
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also doubtful of him because the parental unit is a authority in the household so yeah part of me was
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like okay well i should question government and i should also question everything around me
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including my parents but i think um more than that i there's a lot of ideas of how like conservatism is
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supposed to be or how the traditional household is supposed to be and all the benefits it's supposed
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to reap and there are definitely benefits but i think um oh sorry hold on just a second
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bra donated 100 dollars oh thank you i would swim up the amazon river with 45 pound weights tied to my
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scrotum with nothing else but gorlock the destroyer's queefs as my air supply if if it meant i could have
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one seafood dinner with brian over skype using a dial-up internet connection my dms are open dme
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and we'll get it set up thank you okay appreciate it um thank you for that um you're telling us about
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your parents oh yeah thank you for the donation mr i appreciate it oh is this a bodybuilding.com okay okay
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yeah no but basically um you know people talk about like oh no the two-parent household is like
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the best household ever etc etc and i i saw some ways that that's not necessarily true or some
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things that go against the traditional narrative so i also think that kind of made me progressive
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okay all right question in your last relationship how long was your last relationship my last
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relationship was like around five to six months did you end it or did he or was it i ended it you
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ended it did you wear the pants in that relationship do you mean if i wear the pants what does i don't
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know is that a sexist no i just don't know what you mean exactly like were you kind of the the boss
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in the relationship i think we each were 50 50 i think so yeah i think we're both the bosses in
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different ways like what what do we what what are the ways in which he was a boss and you were a boss
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um i just okay i guess i never felt like we were the boss of each other i just felt like we were
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just more like compat compatriots just like discussing things and figuring things out and
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stuff like that were you ever in a situation where it needed to be like your cool or his cool for
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example were you ever in a situation where you had such conflicting viewpoints that it's like
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one needs to necessarily supersede the other or you never found yourself in that situation well i mean
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i get along well with people who i have very different opinions from um i know we get along
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really well and we disagree on daily everything so no no way um but i feel like there was a time
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where he was like really upset about me because i wasn't like texting him enough i wasn't messaging
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him enough and he was like kind of far away and to me it's one of those things where like i have
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adhd really badly i know it doesn't manifest super obviously here but i do have it
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so i am a little bit time blind i try my best i try my best with messaging communication but if
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you're expecting me to like message you like every day when we're dating it's just it's just not gonna
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happen i will forget i'm sorry that's just how i am so he was needy um yes but who isn't in a
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relationship everyone's a little bit needy and really a little bit at least you know you want your
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partner to be like hey i love you i miss you you know you can say that's a little bit needy but
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that's okay who liked who liked who more in the relationship did you like him more did he like
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you more i feel like there's always somebody likes the other more than the other i don't know i feel
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like um i don't think there was a more i think we were just too different in the ways that we
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liked people our love like language is too different you know
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fat bastard donated one hundred dollars they're going hard tonight get in my belly i want my baby
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back baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs i want my baby back baby back baby back baby back
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that bastard chili's baby back baby back okay uh
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wait are you laughing at the tts or laughing at the tts
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are you austin powers fan or i that was for austin powers i didn't know that i just thought it was
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super random oh yes okay maybe that was before your time i think because you're what 24 yeah
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so you were like two when that came out probably i'm four maybe okay whatever um your relationship
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situation so i'm currently in the relationship okay and um how long have you been
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in said relationship almost 10 months 10 months okay and uh what's your longest relationship
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two and a half years two and a half years all right uh how did you meet current uh boy boyfriend
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girlfriend yeah boyfriend um he slid through the dms he slid into okay dating what what's that
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it's like a modern dating story what what was his opening message so this was around the time where
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i just bought a house and in my tinder bio i had hey let's go furniture shopping or whatever
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i'm also a realtor like hit me up if you need to like sell a house and he slid through the dms we
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actually didn't match but he slid through the dms about how he had a ton of coupons
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that he could you know get really good deals on and he was also verified before all the like
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verification things were like bought so it like went through and i'm like yeah like what's the harm
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like i'm super single and yeah let's let's test it out so he's very uh musician athlete what oh he's
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a director film director yeah film director yeah so like the strike is kind of does he do
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commercials music videos yeah commercials music videos he's lined up for some movies but because
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of the strike no movies just commercials and music videos so you're holding it you guys live together
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yeah right now we live together okay okay um verified but he's talking about coupons i don't know about
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hey it's economical it's you know it's big brain how i feel like how much will coupons save over the
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course of like the cutout coupons from magazines what does he like are you sure you're not dating
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like a grandma or some shit i like the grandma vibes whatever that is like there you go i think
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my grandma vibes are good so my parents grew up in communism and they're very very frugal even though
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they're like hyper capitalistic right now but they've always taught me to save when it wherever you can
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and always reuse your trash bags or whatever yeah reuse your old t-shirts with into rags so
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vietnam no china china vietnam was north vietnam was communist yeah okay yeah all right okay and china
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like made them communist kind of gotcha okay um wait so were you born in china or did you were born in
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the u.s i was born in chicago but we my family moved to china when i was four ish okay so you went
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back yeah born in the u.s went back came okay got it came back yeah gotcha part of china in shanghai
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oh okay yeah okay sweet so he slid into the dms and that shit worked cool yeah he was just really high
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effort so he he slid through the dms talked about the coupons like oh sure but we weren't gonna meet up
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for like another week or two or so and then he made like an entire pitch deck so you know how like
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film people they do pitches for on projects he like made a whole powerpoint presentation
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now can you boost the audio a little bit what hold on oh no it's already sorry is it
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am i too far from the mic sounds like a lot of work you made a pitch deck yeah like literally a
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powerpoint presentation i've never seen that before so guys take note if you ever want to slide through
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a pitch deck will absolutely put you like in the forefront that is the highest effort
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it will get you the most attention well yeah what was what's he pitching in we see a copy yeah what
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was the most like profound like slide in that pitch deck so it was just about like interior design
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like oh like there's like little paragraphs in there it's like oh here's like whatever vibe i think
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bohemian this will look good oh so he made you a pitch deck for your career and something relating to
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you i thought you made a pitch deck about why he's an ideal boyfriend oh no no no no no no no he
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made a pitch deck about furniture in my house yeah i was gonna say no no okay do not recommend to
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make a pitch deck about why you would be a good partner that's creepy but if it's something first
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of all six four my way i need to put this on one second wait but okay here's a question
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let's say he had not made the pitch deck let's say he had not made the pitch deck
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you still would have hung out with him right um i think it depends because there's always guys sliding
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through dms no matter what no matter who you are no matter if you have a social media following or not
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if you just like hang out on facebook whatever there's always guys trying to slide through the
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dm it's like hey you know like how are you doing beautiful like it could be like right place right
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time whatever but if he did that then it's like well like that's effort put in and i would like to
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show effort back and get to know this person but if you weren't into him i don't think the pitch deck
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would have been the selling point either but we barely even talked and on his profile it didn't
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really have his face or anything on there at all it was just like a profile oh that's kind of sketch
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but okay no but i knew he was a real person like sure okay wait so how how long do you think he spent
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on this pitch deck he said only like 20 minutes but i thought it was a cool pitch deck so maybe like
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an hour or something he's like no i'm i'm just used to doing this with my projects and film
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he's he's probably sends like seven pitch decks a day
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just oh i'm gonna make a fucking pitch deck i'll just wake up 20 minutes like morning routine
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he's just like it's it's actually like he gets so much pussy from the pitch decks
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no he said he's never done that before he said he's never done that before and i believe that's okay
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he's not that's like when a girl who's like really good at head and she's oh it's my first time i've
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never done this before i mean it's like okay do you know from experience yeah you don't like you
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don't you're not a hiccup like hookup guy right what do you oh my god you're like that he knows
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the girls that are you asking if i've ever if i've just never had sex before so much experience with
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getting head from women that you would experience the type of woman repeatedly that would be like
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it's literally a meme though like this is a meme that you see online but there's i mean i don't know
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if i've actually encountered a woman who's like oh i'm i don't know it's my first time i don't know
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if it's gonna be good and then she's like just fucking going to town
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so you haven't experienced that it's only specific
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literally there's meme there are memes about this about like you you guys haven't seen these memes
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about oh i've never done this before and she's like okay puts herself in fucking doggy position
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and she's just like okay you've never done this before maybe i read a lot you know maybe they're
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scholars they don't have like reddit and cornhub we do we do have experience like with food kind
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of in a way with like you know i don't know popsicles lollipops like yeah i don't know yeah i think you
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really just what's your alicia's just at home wait yeah what's your go-to food for practicing bjs
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i think a i want an answer from all the women by the way on this corn on the cob might be
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does the dick have an std or something i don't know the egg that's
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just in size how do you participate in like with a man you're saying it's like corn on the cob
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i mean no no i'm just saying for size wise like i don't know like as far as like a realistic
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side of that wait hold on size wise like this big though like i've always seen like the little
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big wait what are those like little mini what are those what are those fucking called the salad
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corns the salad corns what the fuck are those called chat chat chat chat my first time my favorite
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food to practice on is coke cans like this chick of my my first time okay my first time the first
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food experience but yeah no i was talking about my first time eating a girl out it went really well
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and it was my first time it went amazing and what about your second time and third every time it's
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great i mean i guess wait what helped you accomplish that we know about the corn well you know they say
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gay guys are really good at giving because we know jays because they know their anatomy yes exactly do
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you consider yourself um bi gay what's your flavor i'm just bisexual okay well we haven't gotten to
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uh your relationship status yet so uh uh relationship status pitiful i'm i'm single and i'm i'm not really
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like dating right now nothing i'm completely like turned off like with a woman sure but like men like
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i need some time why is that i just always need time like after like a breakup i just got out of
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something like a couple months ago a couple months ago how long was that situation it was only a couple
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months itself and it's you're still not over it i'm no okay uh so you uh you broke up what three
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months ago four months ago um in june june july okay about three months so there's nothing since
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then zilch no dates no pussy eating nothing nothing she's celibate now i i really am stop the cow i don't
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believe it come on do we approve like what what can i do to prove it yes i want to go through your
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phone right now because you're an only fans model right so does this include work um and do you model
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with men um no i don't just women and myself solo content so it's like well not solo content
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i don't think women women are people she does women are people too well don't you want to repeal
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the 19th but um no i i don't but i do understand pearly's arguments with repealing the 19th i
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understand where she's coming from she does girl girl content and solo content yes okay um so
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have you shot any well no what just me just me myself okay oh and just you to do of uh what kind
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of content you guys do is it solo content girl girl boy girl um so i mostly do like ludes like
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lingerie and bikini i don't really it's not full yeah it's not full you can't see like china and stuff
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occasionally top but like mostly like oh occasionally top but mostly pasties but it's more like
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lingerie lewd content cosplay etc got it okay uh what about you yeah i do a lot of solo content
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just solo have any of you done any bg content like in the past i tried with a boy girl oh no
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i tried with a boyfriend but we never like put it out okay never posted it i was just concerned about
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his well being seven hundred and seventy seven donated one hundred dollars advertising has us
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chasing cars and clothes working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need
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all right okay like clubs reject modernity embrace masculinity it's good it's a good point
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seven hundred and seventy seven the silly and seven hundred and seventy seven no million seven
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hundred and seventy seven not tillion seven hundred and seventy seven septilion seven hundred and seventy
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seven seconds i have seven hundred and seventy seven quintillion seven hundred seventy seven thousand seven
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Well, we might have talked about it last show, but I'm sure we've got new people here.
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What's the longest period of time that you've, maybe you didn't have an official boyfriend,
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but there was a guy that you were seeing for some period of time?
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People like to point out, I dated Martin Shkreli for like two years.
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Well, no, because like I thought we were, but then he.
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Yo, FDG, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships.
00:28:23.600
Yeah, it was kind of like, I don't know, so I kind of thought we were heading towards
00:28:30.740
a relationship, and we did not, and it was very on and off, yeah.
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For two years, and then he ended up going to prison for like seven.
00:28:41.800
Yeah, Nick, can you just do a Google, just for people who don't know who Martin Shkreli
00:28:45.440
Can you just do a Google on, on, just for context?
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Were you, were you dating him during, while he was incarcerated, or?
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I dated him, like, at kind of like the height of his, like, fame and like, notoriety, like
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Were you still romantically involved with him when, like, kind of the, some of the, not
00:29:06.280
when he was in prison, but while the court case was going on, or?
00:29:12.320
Oh, Nick, no, no, no, no, just go to the Wikipedia, go to the Wikipedia.
00:29:16.160
I moved in with him for, like, a brief period, but, like, we're still friends.
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Martin Shkreli, born 1983, is an American CEO, hedge fund manager, and fraud convict.
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Shkreli is the co-founder of the hedge funds, Elia Capital, MSMB, Capital Management, a couple
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September 2015, Shkreli was widely criticized when Turing obtained the manufacturing license
00:29:43.120
for the anti-parasitic drug Daraprim, is it Daraprim?
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Daraprim, and raised its price by 5,455% from U.S. $13 to $750 per pill.
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In 2017, Shkreli was charged and convicted in federal court on two counts of securities fraud
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and one count of conspiracy for activity unrelated to the Daraprim controversy.
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He was sentenced to seven years in prison and up to $7.4 million in fines.
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In the civil case, he was fined a further $64.6 million to be repaid to victims on May 18, 2022.
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Shkreli was released early from the low-security federal prison in Allenwood, Pennsylvania.
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So that's a little background on Mr. Martin Shkreli.
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I actually have a picture of myself holding it.
00:30:52.800
I even got to meet RZA and, like, hang out with him for a while.
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So he bought the exclusive ownership rights to, like, one of their Wu-Tang clans, one of their albums.
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They had an album, and I don't know if they knew how it was going to sell.
00:31:15.520
So they were, like, we'll have, instead of putting it out for the public, we'll have, like, an exclusive rights ownership to it.
00:31:22.900
And so he bought it on an auction, and he got it, I think, for, like, $2 million, which I think is pretty cheap for, like, entire ownership of Wu-Tang.
00:31:32.100
But then he didn't ever republish it for anyone to hear.
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So very select people got to listen to literally any of it.
00:31:46.200
Would you characterize it as a toxic relationship, or...?
00:31:54.020
I think he had really a lot of stress coming up with his court case.
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And so I think that it was just a really bad time.
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I know him and his girlfriend, his most recent girlfriend, like, just broke up.
00:32:11.300
But he did have a pretty healthy relationship with her.
00:32:13.740
And I think he's doing a really good job with, like, creating healthy relationships now.
00:32:18.820
When you first started dating him, was he, at that point, already embroiled in the criminal case?
00:32:28.060
So at what point in the relationship did the criminal case be developed?
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So he got famous for raising the price of the pill.
00:32:44.900
And I looked into it, and nobody was getting harmed from the pill.
00:32:48.020
And so I reached out to him, and I was like, I'm very confused.
00:32:52.420
But it seems like you're doing a lot of research and development, helping people, and yada, yada.
00:32:57.160
And he was like, oh, yeah, let's talk about it.
00:32:58.880
I swing by UC Davis area frequently for my other companies in San Francisco.
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So, like, we hung out, and then we just continued hanging out.
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And then that was, like, years before he was charged with anything.
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Like, maybe a year and a half before he was charged with anything.
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Did he try to hit you up while he was in prison?
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Did he ever propose, like, a marriage to you so there could be conjugal visits?
00:33:42.260
One time before he got in financial trouble, he was, like, he was really into live streaming.
00:33:50.900
He was really into live streaming, and he took me to a Tiffany's, and then he proposed to me in the Tiffany's.
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And then when I said yes, he said, just kidding.
00:34:04.680
So, did they bring out the champagne and everything?
00:34:12.780
It was just, like, it was, like, immediately, like, ha-ha, just kidding.
00:34:23.420
No, were you laughing, or were you, like, fuck you?
00:34:26.200
Oh, well, keep in mind, we were on camera, and at the time, like, I didn't have, like, any social, really, almost any social media.
00:34:33.900
And so, like, I just was, like, I was just, like, really wanting to be liked.
00:34:42.620
And then I, like, ran away to go cry, and then I, like, came back.
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They told us, like, not to trauma dump, and I'm trauma dumping.
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Yeah, this was before he was in any legal trouble whatsoever.
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I just think that he sometimes thinks things are funny, and he doesn't think through, like,
00:35:24.980
Like, I think he's just, like, I don't think he realized.
00:35:27.380
Like, I think he genuinely thought that was just, like, a funny joke and something that
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I don't think he really thought about it from, like, the perspective, like, the female perspective
00:35:37.280
Yo, FTG, thank you very much for the 50 gifted memberships.
00:35:43.920
Okay, so you were involved with Martin Shkreli for a little bit, so, but it was on-again,
00:35:48.240
off-again relationships, so it is sometimes hard to count that.
00:35:51.820
Like, how do you, like, were you dating, like, are you dating for two years, but it was on-and-off,
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Besides him, what's, like, the longest situationship that you've had?
00:36:19.140
I've never had any, like, long-term situationships.
00:36:21.580
She's probably the longest, and that was two years.
00:36:23.940
I don't think I've had any situationships other than that.
00:36:28.860
And you want to get married at one point, one day, have kids, et cetera?
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Do you, and when it comes to, like, having either not found that person or not having had
00:36:39.060
any other long-term relationships, do you think that it just becomes, like,
00:36:49.580
Do you feel like there's, maybe, is there something you're doing?
00:36:55.480
Yeah, I mean, like, there has to be something I'm doing, right?
00:36:58.420
Like, I want something, and I'm trying to get it, and I'm not achieving that goal.
00:37:06.860
No, it's hard to find, I don't know, other people do it, so I can't say that it's impossible,
00:37:14.520
Like, I just want to go on dates and meet someone nice and take things slow and figure
00:37:21.060
it out, but it is difficult to meet people to even just get an initial date with, so.
00:37:30.420
I have, sure, I have, like, people, like, swarming my DMs, but, like, like, what, so,
00:37:37.680
Like, search through everyone, look through their pictures, and then go based off their
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picture and, like, meet them out for, like, that's really hard, too.
00:37:58.620
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.
00:38:03.080
And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight
00:38:30.480
You put an ad on Craigslist seeking basic white girls.
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These broads really in their head think they be special when they dime a dozen.
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If you want to know, that's, pretend that's, oh yeah, there he is.
00:38:54.960
I was about to say, we have white privilege today.
00:39:14.600
While we got some chats up, Space Monkey, Amy Dangerfield's video on Andrew Tate was question
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I don't, I don't, you, question mark, question mark.
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I did an analysis of the victims that came forward on my YouTube.
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Also, bro, I'm, okay, I'm, was, drag your name.
00:39:57.760
Yeah, I'm not going to address like bullshit fucking shit like that.
00:40:01.060
But, uh, nothing special planned for episode 100.
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Um, oh, yo, FTG, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.
00:40:25.180
My longest relationship was four years, which was my last relationship.
00:40:32.780
Your most recent relationship ended four months ago.
00:40:39.560
Your, oh, your longest relationship was four years.
00:40:41.700
Yes, which was the last one, which ended about four.
00:40:54.220
Uh, I had a question for the girls who do, uh, OnlyFans.
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Uh, so some people on OnlyFans can make a lot of money.
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Just curious, are you guys down to share, like, how much money you guys make?
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Are you all in the top one percent of OnlyFans that make at least $2,500 per month?
00:41:15.180
So you're all in the top one percent, the three people?
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It also depends on, like, if you're with a good agency, if you're putting out a lot
00:41:32.920
of content on social media, depends on a lot of things.
00:41:37.740
Do you guys talk to your, to the guys that you, that follow you?
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Do you have, like, those communications, or is it just the photos and the videos?
00:42:01.600
Do you have any men that consider you to be, like, their girlfriend?
00:42:09.560
I mean, we're kind of, like, selling a fantasy here.
00:42:15.180
Do you see any, like, potential conflicts with that?
00:42:20.280
And how do you get out of, like, ever actually meeting them in person?
00:42:29.120
Like, if they ask anything that I'm not willing to do, or, like, meeting up, or, like, any photos
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or videos I don't want to do, I just tell them I don't want to.
00:42:39.300
And so you have these guys who consider you to be their girlfriend, and then they'd be,
00:42:45.300
like, oh, but can we get some, like, want to get a drink sometime?
00:42:53.900
I don't really want to meet up with, like, people online.
00:42:58.800
Yeah, I think it's more parasocial than, like, actually thinking you're a girlfriend.
00:43:05.260
I don't think anybody thinks you're in a serious relationship ever, because they understand
00:43:14.080
It's not like you're actually, like, talking on the phone or, like, meeting up for dates
00:43:19.700
And parasocial relationships exist in a lot of capacities.
00:43:22.460
Like, people feel a parasocial relationship with their favorite influencers and celebrities.
00:43:26.200
But I think it borders on the line of a little bit more precarious and a little bit more,
00:43:31.040
hmm, maybe this is not quite safe when you are so sexually involved with them as well.
00:43:36.140
Because that draws on emotions that are not typical in the average parasocial relationship
00:43:40.720
where people are just worshipping their social media idols or celebrities.
00:43:46.740
I mean, and also, like, those people have security for a reason.
00:43:50.760
Like, most celebrities that you see out have security.
00:43:54.820
And you guys, there's just now all of these content creators who, I don't think they're
00:43:59.360
as careful about not letting the public know their whereabouts.
00:44:03.380
And often, they're actually really loose with letting people know their doxed information.
00:44:11.560
I think it's a bit of a cope when people say, like, oh, OnlyFans is so much safer than
00:44:16.720
Because OnlyFans did not start as a content for that type of explicit content.
00:44:21.160
It started off as, like, a Patreon of sorts, right?
00:44:25.980
And so, when you look at the traditional sex work environment, strip clubs, you know,
00:44:29.620
anything like that, there are guidelines in place.
00:44:37.700
The platform wasn't explicitly started with that intent.
00:44:40.520
I feel like that's lacking, which can almost cause people to fall into more precarious
00:44:48.200
I feel like even Instagram is more dangerous, in a sense, because people are involved with
00:44:55.280
There's not, like, a story speech on OnlyFans, for example.
00:44:59.840
You can, like, communicate and comment and, like, be invested in a figure or social media
00:45:13.180
There's two things that are different on Instagram.
00:45:15.700
So, now, with Instagram, you can, like, post bikini pictures.
00:45:31.840
Sorry, my second one was the exchange of money.
00:45:37.000
As though they have some sort of ownership over people or ownership over the women because
00:45:42.220
they've paid some specific amount and, therefore, like, they're entitled to...
00:45:47.980
I worry about people becoming possessive, obsessive, and feeling entitled.
00:45:53.580
I just want to say, as far as, like, the strip club or, like, other, like, walks of sex work,
00:45:58.760
I feel like OnlyFans is kind of, like, the safest because, like, with those, you have to be with these people in person as far as...
00:46:07.640
I don't want to say any words that I can't say, but, like, just other forms of sex work.
00:46:12.220
Like, you know, because I used to do those and I joined OnlyFans because it was, like, I don't have to see these people.
00:46:21.000
And it was, like, just safer, like, as far as that goes.
00:46:23.940
She's talking about, like, what is the recourse, though, if someone was crazy?
00:46:27.220
Because there's a lot of recourse and there are set protocols and standards in place with these forms of sex work that are, like, explicitly considered sex work versus something like OnlyFans, which is a little bit more vague, a little bit more ambiguous.
00:46:40.620
Like, all those specific standards and protocols in place where people are even informing themselves about the potential dangers and how to be aware of them and how to navigate them if they were to arise, you know?
00:46:50.420
I would just say it's, like, the same protocols as, like, if anyone was in danger, like, you know, police or, like...
00:46:56.840
I've had in person, like, people follow me to my car and all these different things, like, in real life or on my regular...
00:47:02.480
From your OnlyFans as a result of that or, like, in real life?
00:47:05.320
Before I ever made a social media, if I have guys catcall me, follow me in their car, it's just downtown L.A., and all you can do is just, like, keep walking, but on OnlyFans, you can establish your specific boundaries.
00:47:16.800
Like, hey, I'm not comfortable with this, this, and this.
00:47:24.060
Here is how we can, like, chat, but it's very strict boundaries.
00:47:27.140
I think it just depends on how you're able to establish boundaries for yourself because I feel like just existing as a woman is kind of dangerous in society.
00:47:34.720
Like, if you're walking alone in, like, a bad part of town.
00:47:38.820
I mean, it's actually more dangerous to exist as a man.
00:47:42.220
Yeah, I think men actually do get more violently targeted, but it's always...
00:47:47.720
Men are more likely to be victims of violent crimes, so...
00:47:50.720
Yeah, violent crimes for sure, but I think when it...
00:47:55.660
I just want to know, who is committing these crimes, like, against the men?
00:48:03.720
What does it matter what the gender of the perpetrator is?
00:48:05.940
No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, it just feels like men, the conversation of safety and the world not being safe, it's like, just comes back to men.
00:48:15.320
It's not because of men, it's a very small proportion of men who commit these violent crimes, so...
00:48:21.580
And they've existed since the beginning of time, and that's never going to change.
00:48:25.200
That's with almost any group of people, though, for any stats figures, it's almost always a small group, but usually, like, if you divide by race or by gender or whatever, then there's a larger percentage within each categorized group in some as opposed to others, which makes these disparities seem large.
00:48:45.320
Yeah, I think when people say, oh, it's more dangerous for men, it really depends on how you qualify that, because I feel like if...
00:48:53.700
Just across the board, generally speaking, violent crime, go ahead.
00:48:56.980
Okay, because I was going to say, I think women do a lot of risk de-escalation as much as they can, so if women took the same actions as men do, then you might see similar numbers of violence.
00:49:07.740
But what ends up happening is that women from a young age are socialized to, okay, don't be out too late at night, or if you are, be with, like, a bunch of friends, and, like, always, like, be careful walking to the parking lot, and have the keys with you, and the pepper spray, and the 911 ready to call, and if a guy, like, flirts with you or comes up with you, think about all the ways that he can harm you.
00:49:25.040
So I'm not saying that men aren't larger victims of, like, let's say, street violence, for example, but I wonder if those numbers would change if women were more casual like men are.
00:49:37.000
I think it just has to do with proximity, and then also, like, you have gang violence is going to be, like, one of the main...
00:49:44.500
And so it's usually gangs fighting against each other to tend to be men.
00:49:48.360
But, like, also, like, if you break it down by race, like, black people tend to hurt black people, whereas white people hurt white people, Asian people hurt Asian people.
00:50:02.440
So you'll see more men hurting women than women hurting men,
00:50:12.480
I think it's a society that is the reason for this.
00:50:29.060
Have much of a chance with the way that the system is set up.
00:50:36.620
It's largely based on, like, socioeconomic conditions, too.
00:50:40.480
Yeah, I feel like I agree with that, because I also was born and raised in China from Beijing for 15 years.
00:50:45.520
I've never actually experienced such high amount of violence where I grew up.
00:50:53.060
You could say it's, like, the government controls everything.
00:50:55.760
But, like, this much amount of violence is kind of unheard of, almost.
00:51:02.060
I was, like, pretty shocked when I got here, to be honest.
00:51:04.680
So, sorry, you were saying in Beijing there's less violence than in America?
00:51:08.860
I think it's simply because the government has more control over there.
00:51:20.320
But because people here can actually have their own voice, have their opinions, and then, like, be who they are,
00:51:26.260
I think that could potentially lead to, like, more violence.
00:51:29.760
Have you experienced with the communist government, like, governmental violence in China?
00:51:35.940
I've not personally experienced it, but I've heard things.
00:51:46.360
I have no idea what the fuck this has to do with dating.
00:51:55.420
Okay, you were making the point, Pixie, that women, because the way they are raised to be more aware of risk...
00:52:07.100
There was another part that you said after that that I had a point on, but it's updated me.
00:52:15.940
She was saying that if women are brought up to be cautious around men,
00:52:20.240
which is why they potentially have less conflicts with men than when you were saying that men get attacked more frequently than women get attacked.
00:52:32.280
There's something within a lot of men, which is, like, a white knight thing, where it's, like, told never to hit a woman.
00:52:40.300
In fact, I think women have certain privileges on the street, for example.
00:52:47.260
You're walking in some bar or nightclub district, and a guy comes up to you and slaps you across the face.
00:52:54.780
There are totally strange men that will intervene on your behalf and essentially be your bodyguards for free that will defend you.
00:53:03.520
However, if I just get slapped in the face by some dude and he starts trying to fuck me up, nobody's coming to save me.
00:53:10.060
So I think that's actually a privilege that women have.
00:53:14.620
You basically, in a public area, you basically have male bodyguards that will intervene on your behalf that are total strangers.
00:53:27.280
Especially, like, if a woman were to slap you, I highly doubt that you'll have any interveners.
00:53:32.220
But if a random man slaps you, I think you'll have a high likelihood that you're also going to have strangers intervene.
00:53:38.640
And then also, there's been multiple issues, specifically during COVID, like when they started letting the trains run again, where women were being, you know, essayed on the trains in New York.
00:53:50.560
And sometimes for many, many stops, and passerbyers were videotaping it, and nobody was doing anything to help these women.
00:54:01.380
Yeah, I'll agree with you that, in general, strangers are more likely to help a woman being beaten than a man being beaten by a woman.
00:54:09.340
But women definitely experience times where strangers will not help them.
00:54:14.580
I'm not saying that there's never a situation where a woman is being physically assaulted by a man, and that it's impossible that a guy doesn't intervene.
00:54:26.060
However, it's very, I would say it's very likely, if there's other men around, seeing a woman being beaten by a man, they are very likely to not just intervene, but beat the fucking shit out of the guy who's beating on the woman.
00:54:42.300
Whereas, if I'm getting attacked by another man, I don't know why you flip the genders, if I'm getting attacked by another man, there's no, it's very, very unlikely that other men are going to intervene to stop.
00:54:57.940
And just to say something on that, so for example, when that situation does arise, when a woman is being beaten by a man, and there aren't any defenders, oftentimes there could be missing context from the situation.
00:55:09.420
So did you guys hear about the woman who got bricked in the face recently?
00:55:16.600
We don't have to, I was just using it as an example, because she was literally saying, men weren't standing up for me, men are pussies, they're cowards, this and that, trying to paint this narrative, but there was a lot more to the context than...
00:55:31.560
People will be thinking I'm anti-women when the fact is I'm anti-everybody.
00:55:34.620
Most men are completely useless working dead-end jobs just to throw that bread at some e-fot, but they're self-aware and know they're losers.
00:55:54.080
I think that, although in theory it sounds like, oh yeah, like, you know, men will be valiant and stand up for women, there's a reason why women are even given advice like, hey, if you're being assaulted or if some, like, strange guy's trying to attack you, instead of yelling, like, help, like, I'm being SA'd, instead they say you should scream fire.
00:56:14.460
Because, like, there is, like, the bystander to the fact that there is, oh, you know, a lot of people, both men and women, in the face of atrocities freeze or think that somebody else called the police, somebody else is going to do something about it, regardless of gender.
00:56:28.480
I kind of want to talk about why men defend women when they see them being harmed on the streets.
00:56:34.620
I think most of the time, like, the average woman's height is, like, 5'4", versus the average male height is 5'9", and there's, you know, a lot more muscle mass when, just when you're a guy in general, and I feel like people tend to want to defend people who are, like, yeah, like, just smaller, like, it's like, if you see someone literally, like, beating the shit out of a kid, or someone who is, you know that cannot physically defend themselves, then you're more inclined to help.
00:57:03.600
If someone's beating on an old person in a wheelchair, he's like, hey, stop that.
00:57:09.460
I think if there's a disparity in size or strength, I think there's perhaps, even if it's two men, there might be a greater likelihood of intervention, and certainly your examples with, if it's someone who's elderly, a child, I actually, yeah, that's a fair point.
00:57:27.420
You said you had a question for me before you went up to.
00:57:29.700
Oh, yeah, I was wondering, how many people you share your location with on your phone?
00:57:35.860
Like, just find my friends, if you have an iPhone or Android.
00:57:43.240
I don't think I share my location with anybody.
00:57:45.180
So I want to bring up that most women share their locations with other women and friends, just as like a primary safety, like, hey, if I go on this date, this is where I'm at, something could happen.
00:57:59.280
And it's just, we're taught to always be cautious, because things can happen.
00:58:04.740
And then we get blamed if something does happen, a lot of times.
00:58:08.040
Like, if someone drugs our drink, or if someone ends up assaying us, like, it's typically like, oh, we didn't take enough precaution.
00:58:18.760
You always have to have an out, like, hey, like, I'm right here, come pick me up, whatever.
00:58:41.240
I mean, as far as, okay, just really quick, me personally, like, me not sharing my location, I don't go to bars, I don't go to clubs, I don't go to parties.
00:58:47.880
So, I'm not putting myself in potentially violent situations that often happen when you are, like, so I could, it's plausible that a girl that three times a week she's getting fucking tanked at bars and nightclubs, it's probably likely that she's going to be sharing her location with more people, because she is putting herself in those sorts of, when you're out at nightclubs and bars and parties, like, it is a vulnerable, it's a vulnerable position for both men and women.
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I was going to say, I don't share my location with anyone.
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Yeah, I don't put myself in those situations where I feel like I would need to.
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And to be honest, when I came over here and I traveled to California, I kind of thought, I thought about that, I'm like, wow, he's the only person who actually had my location, and I'm here in this state where I don't know anyone.
00:59:36.380
And I did think about that for a second, but to your point, no, I didn't.
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I'm not with a bunch of my friends, it was with one person.
00:59:42.860
I mean, I don't really go to a bunch of clubs or bars or anything, but I always share my location no matter what, with, like, my best friends, with just people that, even if we're just, like, having dinner or something, like, oh, where did you park?
00:59:59.000
But maybe it's, like, the location or, like, age thing, I don't know.
01:00:02.860
I actually do share my location with a lot of people, too, and I think it might be, like, a physical location thing, because I live in the middle of LA, I'm not going to share where, but I don't feel safe walking around sometimes, just going to the grocery store by myself sometimes, which is why I share my locations with friends.
01:00:19.840
Also, I would point out, I think you mentioned the word feel, right?
01:00:23.640
So I do think it's the case that women feel less safe, but, like, if you look at the actual data, the actual statistics, as far, when it comes to violent crime across the board, generally speaking, men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
01:00:37.400
But you don't want to be harassed, either, even if they're not going to stab you.
01:00:40.260
You don't want someone following home and, like, hit on you, either.
01:00:43.080
Yeah, sure, yeah, that doesn't sound, you don't want someone following you, of course.
01:00:49.800
Well, just, like, you said violent crimes across the board, so I'd imagine those statistics, a lot of them would include, like, gang violence, and then also men who are assaulting each other, and then one is considered the victim, even though they're both kind of at it, fighting with each other, so I think that's going to inflate the statistics.
01:01:09.720
So the incidence of violence perpetrated by men, you're saying that's inflated by male versus male violence as well, which is being categorized into that statistic.
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Yeah, so, like, not so much, just, like, random victims on the street.
01:01:22.900
I don't think that, like, men are being perpetrated more often than females, like, in those situations.
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You don't think your statistics are inflated by gang violence and other types of, like, violence among male groups?
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If you probably removed gang violence, it would still be more likely.
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I think, as brought earlier, it also depends, like, on one type of violence, and that's why women are, like, more cautious as well, because I think that there is a very big difference for people saying, like, oh, you know, we got into a fist fight.
01:01:56.460
Maybe there was, like, a stabbing versus, like, oh, there was a potential stabbing and essay, right?
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Or human trafficking, potentially, or things of that degree.
01:02:06.520
So I think that also, for a lot of people, it's like, would you rather be beat up or would you rather be horribly essayed?
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And I think a lot of people would pick, like, the beating up.
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No, I mean, I don't think that's an answer other people should have.
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But it's not a fair comparison to say, would you rather just get into a fist fight or get fucking violently essayed?
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You're saying, like, oh, no, men overall, you know, they're more victims of violence, et cetera, et cetera.
01:02:54.480
Now, there's differentials in terms of women are more likely to be essayed, although, I mean, you can't hear.
01:03:02.540
Women are more likely to be victims of domestic assault.
01:03:08.200
What does it mean to be human trafficked, just so I'm clear?
01:03:15.960
There's a lot of different types of human trafficking.
01:03:17.660
You're more likely to, like, be a maid and trafficked here.
01:03:23.400
A lot of people, when they think human trafficking, right, they think I'm a slave.
01:03:27.040
Like, I'm in chains or I am being, like, physically or, you know, mentally exploited, right?
01:03:33.280
But what they're saying now is that the love of way method of human trafficking is also equally punishable under a court of law.
01:03:41.820
Meaning that, like, you could get the same level of punishment, prison time, everything for the love of way method versus, you know, any other forms of human trafficking, which are done by force versus coercion.
01:03:53.340
So, coercion is basically, like, making a woman believe that you love them, right, and then forcing them into sex work under some type of guise of relationship or cohabitation situation, which is what the Tates are facing right now.
01:04:11.980
Coercion is also applicable under U.S. law as well.
01:04:16.840
So, you have, like, it's pretty subjective, but you're trying to show that there's some sort of power dynamic.
01:04:24.440
So, I read the Romanian law, and I don't know the American law because I wasn't interested in it, and at least in Romania, they, like, specifically say that there has to be some sort of power differential where the person feels, like, a loss of control.
01:04:38.160
And what they're trying to say in the Tate case is they have, like, some text message exchange in which...
01:04:46.160
Now, there's debate whether or not this text message exchange is real, but in which it seems like the Tates are saying, like, let's get poor people and, like, let's get poor girls who will not be able to leave and yada yada.
01:04:58.180
But there's doubt whether or not that's a real text exchange.
01:05:02.760
There's doubt whether that will be admissible evidence.
01:05:05.500
It's doubt whether or not that's about the women that are the prime victims in the alleged victims in the case.
01:05:14.800
So, it's kind of hard to prove coercion completely, like, unless you have, like, physical documented evidence.
01:05:22.920
Unless you have the physical, like, evidence, right?
01:05:25.840
And you're able to get a rape kit, like, immediately off the train.
01:05:29.960
But, sorry, it's a very similar type of thing, right?
01:05:32.460
Where it's highly subjective in the court of law.
01:05:41.820
So, you often hear inter-partner violence that, oh, men are just beating women up en masse.
01:05:50.280
But what's interesting to me is domestic violence rates are actually lowest amongst gay men and highest amongst lesbian women.
01:06:08.320
Like, you don't think women would report more likely than men?
01:06:13.100
I think there are a lot of abusive women out there who beat men up, but men choose to not report to the police.
01:06:19.800
So, you're saying, oh, I mean, that's almost further proven my point a little bit, but...
01:06:28.260
At least from the self-reports, like, separate from, like, let's say, like, police reports, it still seems like there's a disparity.
01:06:33.980
But I absolutely can agree with you that, yeah, like, a lot of men are disincentivized from going to the police or reporting in general
01:06:41.220
because there is a general stigma against men who are in these situations, and that's really sad and horrible.
01:06:47.820
However, I would say that most men, on average, can overpower women, and if a woman decided to physically beat a man up,
01:06:55.100
the man can stop them physically, just muscle mass-wise, and height and weight-wise, weight class.
01:07:11.540
Okay, wait, so, Emmy, for you, you said your boyfriend, and you said he made you this pitch deck.
01:07:17.880
In your pre-show notes to us, you also said he made, he gifted you furniture on the first date?
01:07:32.360
Yeah, I got my home around, like, a month before me and him ever met, but we started talking, like, whenever.
01:07:39.620
And I was on a Twitch stream, and I was like, oh, my God, my Ikea, like, tabletop is breaking down.
01:07:44.680
And he was on the stream, and he was like, yeah, I got, like, a wood guy.
01:07:51.080
Oh, my God, he does have the best wood in town.
01:07:59.660
Yeah, he got, like, two big slabs of wood for me.
01:08:20.320
Oh, I think, yeah, I think it's, like, around second or third date.
01:08:30.980
Just quality time spent, and words of affirmation, and, yeah.
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That's all the time, man, because you're spending time.
01:09:20.800
And his attachments to, like, certain physical items.
01:09:23.980
Like, you have some, like, emotional attachments to something.
01:10:07.940
I feel like the whole love language thing, though, is kind of bullshit.
01:10:16.560
You can't categorize things into, like, true main.
01:10:19.900
Yeah, because doesn't quality time include all of it?
01:10:22.280
Like, is it quality time still if you just, like, don't talk it on?
01:10:37.540
With the whole love language thing, when, like, for example, on a dating app, if you
01:10:41.960
see somebody list their love languages, it's not clear to me if that's what you desire
01:10:54.900
Like, I like to, I don't know, make, like, a personal card for people, but not necessarily
01:11:01.740
If you got a card, you'd be like, what the fuck is this?
01:11:08.560
People tend to show people how they want to be interacted with.
01:11:18.160
But most people tend to do what they want to receive.
01:11:24.140
So, like, I am pretty good at, like, painting and drawing, and that's, like, what my friends
01:11:31.520
So I like to make little crafts and things for my friends.
01:11:34.940
Because, you know, they'll appreciate it specifically.
01:11:37.620
But I don't necessarily expect that back at all.
01:11:41.840
Like, if my friend is really good at, like, words of affirmation, if you're, like, an essay
01:11:45.240
or a poem person, I think, like, a poem is like, oh, cool.
01:11:49.820
Someone hands you a poem, and you're going to be like, oh, wow.
01:11:59.020
There's, okay, there's some gifts that people really do think they're doing the right thing.
01:12:05.000
Like, my friend, someone serenaded her one time to prom.
01:12:09.900
And I just remember thinking, if someone serenaded me, I'd just cringe.
01:12:22.760
What if he was the best musician that you've ever heard?
01:12:30.120
And then they started playing the guitar or, like, DJing.
01:12:32.940
Like, so, if Adele serenades me, I think I would become the.
01:12:54.520
They don't have the skills to back up the grand gesture.
01:12:55.980
Honestly, even if they were good, I don't think I would like it.
01:13:19.540
He's like, I've experienced this several times.
01:13:37.240
Like, bro, you don't need to put on some fucking performance for me.
01:13:59.100
I didn't know what it was until I was on XenoStream.
01:14:02.260
Wait, is this where you just wear a white tee and over on, like.
01:14:16.160
Wait, so you don't like stripteases, to clarify.
01:14:26.720
So, Ryan won't like that gift that we planned to give him.
01:14:46.720
I'm, when it comes to gifts, first off, I feel like I don't receive a lot of gifts.
01:14:51.880
But if I did, I'd be very, I'm a great receiver.
01:15:09.260
It's more just like when it comes to gifts and stuff.
01:15:12.840
Terrible giver, like you show like a lot of appreciation when somebody.
01:15:21.960
Well, it depends what context we're talking about.
01:15:34.820
Well, we know he doesn't reciprocate the oral sex.
01:15:48.240
Even if she has the largest labier in the world, I still don't do it.
01:15:59.660
Not all of us are like Pixie here where we're going both ways.
01:16:11.880
So it depends on the emotional connection, right?
01:16:17.720
He was saying you're pan, like you're going for whatever depending on the immersion
01:16:34.140
I thought pansexual is like, I just don't see body.
01:16:41.860
So it's hard to explain, but the best way I explain it is the difference between bi and
01:16:45.060
pan is that a bi person is like, I like chocolate and vanilla ice cream.
01:16:53.160
And then a pan person's like, it's all fucking ice cream to me.
01:17:06.480
Actually, if it's about pansexual people, like in pans, I will.
01:17:23.560
She wasn't when she did trust in her non-binary.
01:17:34.980
They're like attracted to really intelligent dudes.
01:17:37.220
But then the dudes they end up dating are the type of dudes that like when they're reading.
01:17:41.640
When they're reading, they have to like they read with their finger.
01:17:51.740
It's like to have a guy who just like builds furniture all day.
01:17:56.380
You know, somebody who reads like this, you know, like.
01:18:06.200
I think there are a lot of women who are attracted to like Chris Pratt types.
01:18:16.140
I think a lot of women prefer funny than smart.
01:18:18.960
Like if you can make somebody laugh all day long.
01:18:24.620
Because if somebody's witty, then they're clearly intelligent as well.
01:18:27.740
Because they're able to contextualize situations and make light out of it.
01:18:30.700
And that takes some degree of intelligence to be able to do that.
01:18:45.660
I think it's also in addition to just being funny.
01:18:47.820
I think it's also having a positive affectation.
01:19:07.340
There's this guy that I went to law school with who was like that.
01:19:22.240
And then I was like how did you do on the exam?
01:19:41.620
DGG philosophy is the place to be open your minds and get free.
01:19:45.060
If you want a good night go watch Not So Erudite.
01:19:47.660
And if you want to fight the good fight go watch my man Stevie Knight.
01:19:58.820
We are going to have Stevie Knight on the show eventually.
01:20:05.100
And we're going to try to get a couple other good people.
01:20:07.160
We got some I think some good guests coming up soon.
01:20:10.620
Assuming you know no can't we get you know people cancel things come up.
01:20:21.880
On my ex he literally used to like rate Uber drivers and tip according to how much they
01:20:31.220
I'm literally such a golden retriever type personality.
01:20:41.740
What do you think is enough minimum annual income for you to have a family with?
01:20:46.400
What buffers do you think are best to keep a relationship together in today's society
01:20:53.660
Before you answer that's a lot of questions there.
01:20:55.480
Um, we typically like to limit it to just one question per chat.
01:21:02.800
Try, try to keep it brief if you can, if you want to try to hit, hit everything.
01:21:06.940
So what I'm really looking for in a relationship is a leader and somebody who is a superior
01:21:12.020
to me in a lot of ways because I've been the opposite where I am leading either like
01:21:16.600
physically, like, uh, financially or intellectually in the relationships that I've been in.
01:21:29.940
However, I would say that for me, it's like, when you have those traits, when you are someone
01:21:35.220
who can lead in those respects, then naturally that's going to obviously show in your income
01:21:41.380
So it's not necessarily the income that I'm going for, but those proclivities and the,
01:21:46.120
uh, the ability to be able to display those characteristics, those leadership characteristics,
01:21:51.620
to be able to be somebody who can support a family.
01:21:55.160
Naturally, you're going to want someone who's a multiple six figure earner.
01:21:57.960
So I would say that that, cause I make that and I want someone who makes more than me.
01:22:06.840
Because naturally somebody who is a leader, someone who is a leader, somebody who is able
01:22:11.580
to exemplify those characteristics will naturally find a way to transpire that to their career
01:22:16.980
because they're going to have some type of skillset that they can monetize.
01:22:23.740
There are some skillsets that you cannot monetize, but generally speaking, I know,
01:22:27.960
I mean, I think if you're looking for somebody who has those character, character, like traits
01:22:33.240
that we're talking about here, they're going to be able to make money off of it.
01:22:41.600
Do you guys, uh, you're currently seeing somebody, you're currently dating seven people.
01:22:50.800
Um, but you guys, I mean, I, I know that a lot of girls who do, uh, only fans are typically,
01:22:56.620
well, not typically, but, uh, it sounds to me like you guys are high earners yourselves.
01:23:12.020
He's like, yeah, like right now, like I make a little more, but that doesn't matter.
01:23:16.240
Do you guys want somebody that makes more than you or how about as much or more than you?
01:23:24.360
I feel like lately I've been, I've always felt like I wanted someone to make more than
01:23:29.120
me, but I've gotten into relationships where it was a bit of like a, um, weird power dynamic.
01:23:37.540
And the men that tended to make more than me, they were just a bit more like, I'm sure
01:23:44.220
it's just the ones that I came in contact with, but just a bit more like arrogant and
01:23:49.620
But then there's the men that make less and they're insecure and it's just like, I don't
01:24:00.260
I feel like I honestly, I just want somebody that's like good to me.
01:24:05.600
I mean, as long as I'm not taking care of them, but yeah, my, my last ex, or I guess
01:24:11.880
like during the pandemic, he, we, so we met when we were both working in tech, we were
01:24:16.860
both programmers, but during the pandemic, we both quit.
01:24:19.620
Because the company was only fun when there was like a whole campus.
01:24:25.720
Like, it's like, there's a meditation room, there's infinite alcohol, there's all these
01:24:28.800
So when the pandemic hit, coding was a miserable job.
01:24:33.880
So the whole time I had to pay for everything, like housing costs, food, and all of that.
01:24:46.720
Um, so I would say like around two, we never made it official.
01:24:54.960
You never made it official and you were paying all of his expenses.
01:24:58.480
So we started hanging out more and more cause we were like carpool and like, so when we
01:25:03.080
were coworkers, we just kind of got closer and closer and it was never official.
01:25:11.160
Surely there was some mutual understanding that you guys were exclusive, right?
01:25:16.980
You just never said it out loud, but that doesn't necessarily indicate that you guys
01:25:22.600
It was like situation shit, but I was taking care of him cause he was like, oh, we have
01:25:27.200
Well, I feel like as a woman, if, especially if you're taking care of a man's stuff, you
01:25:32.540
Like in any of you ladies, imagine being in a situation like that and you find out he's
01:25:40.220
So it was like an exclusive arrangement kind of.
01:25:44.220
And I, but I have a, so, so what you're saying, Amy, is that if women really want to
01:25:50.380
get commitment from men, they got to start, start being the breadwinners.
01:25:55.680
No, that's like literally not what I'm saying at all.
01:26:01.580
I actually think it's the exact opposite because I think that when you go for that dynamic,
01:26:05.860
it automatically, you are conflicting with so many, um, factors in evolutionary psychology
01:26:11.400
and just the way people are in general, there's already going to be so much friction in the
01:26:18.380
I was just trying to prod a little bit deeper to really get your perspective on it.
01:26:22.680
Cause I'm not sure I quite fully understand what the dynamic was.
01:26:29.740
So do you think that's a fair trade-off in order to, because a lot of women complain that
01:26:35.980
Do you think that'd be a fair trade-off for women?
01:26:38.460
They have to, the women have to be the providers.
01:26:41.520
They have to take care of expenses in exchange.
01:26:53.540
And then by default, you have a woman who submits to him.
01:26:56.460
So what I'm saying is if the standard was reversed, which I do not necessarily think that
01:27:02.680
I don't think that it should be, but if it were to be reversed, then wouldn't the man
01:27:09.540
Otherwise, what's the point of the inversion of it?
01:27:14.020
Like if he were to cook clean and like me buy him a gym membership, workout, whatever,
01:27:23.180
And he was like kind of resentful towards like all the social media stuff I was doing,
01:27:28.840
And it was just like very chaotic because he was insecure.
01:27:33.580
I think he naturally wanted to be a leader, but he couldn't at the time because of the
01:27:39.400
But even if a woman is the breadwinner, it's not clear to me if women want men to be submissive,
01:27:50.260
I feel like a woman who's willing to be in that type of a relationship.
01:27:56.880
Ladies, is Flowers on the first date a red flag?
01:28:07.360
We got a lot of people that want to be on the show.
01:28:23.120
Okay, it's not a red flag, but I don't recommend you do it.
01:28:35.820
I mean, if you can't afford flowers, you can pick some flowers, and that's still cute.
01:28:43.120
Wait, when's the last time you took someone on a dinner date?
01:28:48.140
I don't think dinner dates are, for a first date, I don't think dinner dates are a good
01:28:54.120
I think you could meet somewhere for a coffee or a tea or go for a walk, even.
01:29:14.620
I have a big thing going on here, and I'm not trying to be distracted right now by doing
01:29:21.420
I do want to continue on with the point, though.
01:29:24.860
Why do half your guests not understand the difference between women and woman talking
01:29:42.340
Women versus woman, which is something people say a lot in this space.
01:29:46.000
They say woman, where they should technically say women.
01:29:50.120
All I'm going to say is that I literally speak two languages, so he can suck a dick.
01:30:12.720
Yes, I speak Spanish, but I have a sense of gringa, and that's because I speak English, but we can speak in Spanish now, if you want.
01:30:36.760
Unfortunately, I started speaking English when I was very young, so I started losing it a little bit.
01:30:44.360
I technically learned Spanish first, and I learned most of my English through reading, so I mispronounce a lot of words the longer that you know me, because I pronounce them as you would read them in Spanish.
01:30:59.820
Yeah, I hear maybe it could also be, like, they think they heard someone say woman instead of woman.
01:31:10.740
Anytime I'm on a Red Pill podcast, I noticed it.
01:31:13.320
Literally, anytime I'm on a Red Pill podcast, I noticed people say woman, where they should be saying women, but also I'm a grammar nerd.
01:31:21.940
Instead of saying women, they say the word woman, where they should be saying women.
01:31:28.980
I mean, I figured it's an American thing, because I've only noticed it since I moved here.
01:31:33.660
Well, I mean, if they can't recognize Supreme Court justices, they're not going to recognize grammar.
01:31:43.560
I'm from Bakersfield, after I moved from China.
01:31:50.640
Okay, so, ladies, it's flowers on the first date, a red flag, and then we were talking about paying for the first date, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
01:31:57.160
Y'all were shocked when I said, you know what I'm saying?
01:32:04.160
Yeah, you have to get ready for, like, an hour or something just to meet someone that you're unsure about.
01:32:10.180
You're, like, having a lot of risk just to, like, grab a coffee.
01:32:15.000
Well, you're assuming, like, I'm at least assuming that you're meeting this person beforehand in person.
01:32:20.740
And then you're, like, okay, I want to date this person, so then you're going out for a date.
01:32:28.380
Well, I mean, a lot of people meet online, social media, dating apps.
01:32:31.420
Right, but women put in that much effort to look good pretty much every day when they go out of their house to meet strangers.
01:32:36.900
It's, I mean, maybe they go the little extra mile for a date, but the majority of women are already caking their face before they step out of their household.
01:32:46.500
And you don't know what kind of shit we do before.
01:32:50.280
Tell us how long it takes for you to get ready.
01:33:22.500
When Cameron Diaz was like, Ben's do love with her hair.
01:33:31.200
Gentlemen, you should probably not listen to me on this one.
01:33:34.740
You probably should pay for the first date because you're going to lose women if you don't.
01:33:39.200
But, yeah, if you want to min-max your dating success or dating results, you should pay for the first date.
01:33:50.380
You're more likely to have the woman just keep talking to you, period.
01:33:53.800
It feels a little transactional, though, don't you?
01:33:55.820
Are you guys saying that women are basically prostitutes?
01:34:11.960
I've seen YouTube videos of women talking about this, and they literally say,
01:34:15.260
well, I mean, it's not because of feminism, but, I mean, if you don't want to split it,
01:34:19.100
if you want to split it, my pussy's going to dry up.
01:34:21.080
And that's your repercussion at the end of the day.
01:34:28.320
I think what happens is that men are also, like, competing against other men
01:34:34.860
But, basically, if a guy doesn't do that, the problem is, like,
01:34:37.360
there's going to be, like, 10 other guys who are willing to do that, right?
01:34:39.920
So, if a woman is, like, yeah, pay for the first date.
01:34:45.620
But, also, it's, like, if they pay for the first date, I'm more likely to be, like,
01:34:49.800
Like, if they don't pay for it, it's, like, okay, I owe you nothing.
01:34:54.260
If a girl, like, really, really insists and, like, is, like, fighting on it,
01:34:58.280
like, it probably means that she never wants to see you again.
01:35:01.340
Wait, wait, is splitting the bill, like, an American thing?
01:35:16.660
You have not experienced this on the dates that you've been on?
01:35:19.140
Where you're, like, oh, this is a bit different to back home.
01:35:21.280
Yeah, yeah, I've experienced it, but then I was, like...
01:35:27.880
I mean, were you really dating all that much prior to 15 back in Beijing?
01:35:31.540
I think it's more so, like, family values, like, what you see growing up with family and stuff like that.
01:35:37.040
Like, I've seen people split bills here, but then...
01:35:43.280
But, yeah, like, usually if they're, like, let's 50-50, I would just pay for it because I...
01:35:57.880
I think growing up, I've seen men provide and pay most of the time, and then, so, like, after I came here, I was, like, ooh, so, like...
01:36:06.840
Let me just try to continue on this chain really quick.
01:36:10.080
So, your parents are still together or divorced?
01:36:14.000
Okay, but growing up, you had strong traditional values, correct?
01:36:28.960
I don't have an issue with it, but it's not really...
01:36:33.460
It's not, which is why I've had, like, issues with family, yes.
01:36:40.980
Does your dad and mom, do they know that you do content?
01:36:54.560
We haven't been on speaking terms for a long time.
01:36:56.720
We recently reconnected, and I kind of told her what I was doing, but I don't think she
01:37:00.880
understands, like, the social media stuff quite a bit.
01:37:09.580
How would you say in Mandarin, dear mom, I post my titties on OnlyFans.
01:37:33.500
Did you know in China, for a man to marry a woman, they have to provide a house and own
01:37:38.620
Like, they have to own a house and a car at minimum, and they have to pay for all the food.
01:37:45.780
I learned that in America that the bride's family pays for the wedding, which is, like, mind-blowing.
01:38:01.720
I thought high-value men were supposed to look for a young woman.
01:38:07.400
She got a boyfriend, or what was the situation?
01:38:22.820
But maybe you should give her some time, because my stepdad passed away, like, fairly recently.
01:38:29.800
I'm trying to dig into a widow's panties, like, so quickly.
01:39:01.800
So, I don't know how to make it un-awkward after hitting your, hitting on your mom.
01:39:14.840
Okay, did she move here when you were 15 as well?
01:39:20.540
And then she came when I was like, maybe like four years after.
01:39:48.700
Wait, what, what, we're, okay, we're talking about paying for first dates.
01:39:58.380
Honestly, the first date, it's ultimately going to be his idea.
01:40:02.000
So I think that he should pay because I didn't ask.
01:40:09.400
If I ask someone out, I'm like, let's go to Disneyland.
01:40:14.140
Like, I'm not going to be like, yeah, if it's like a first date and you're like, whoa.
01:40:25.820
Like if you're the one asking, like if some guy asked me to go to Disneyland on the first date,
01:40:34.880
I feel like over elaborate first dates are very ill advised because let's say it's weird.
01:40:42.140
Like you want to, you want to be in a kind of casual situation where it's, you're just
01:40:47.740
Or if it's weird, you can be like, oh, hey, nice to meet you.
01:40:51.600
And you can dip like, but for dinner, that's why I'm kind of hesitant with dinner because
01:40:55.680
it's like, oh, we got to wait another 20 minutes for the food, but I don't like you.
01:41:03.080
You can't spend an hour with someone you don't like in the pursuit of eventually finding
01:41:14.460
The right answer to who paid for the first date is easy.
01:41:23.780
So if, if you're just not attracted to them, but they're otherwise pleasant, I say just
01:41:30.200
continue on with the date, you know, uh, you know, eat the meal, have a nice conversation.
01:41:36.600
But if there's like something like you're, you feel your safety is kind of, or like they're
01:41:44.260
being weird in some kind of way, then yeah, absolutely.
01:41:51.640
So like we're having dinner, we're on a date and then you're like, oh wow, she's really
01:41:57.960
You're going to be like, ah, sorry, can't finish this.
01:42:07.300
Well, you said that you want a free, you're saying that you want a free date.
01:42:11.140
No, walk around the park, go to a Starbucks, grab a tea, that shit.
01:42:21.900
No, because then you're getting into the crevices of the mountain, but like beach, there's people
01:42:29.260
But whether you're a man or a woman and you feel uncomfortable on a date, then yeah, you reserve
01:42:36.020
the right at any moment to be, to fucking leave.
01:42:39.820
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be allowed to.
01:42:41.260
I'm not obliged to stay on a date with somebody.
01:42:43.260
Now, again, if they're otherwise pleasant, if, well, no, if they're otherwise pleasant,
01:42:47.700
but I'm just, and this applies to women too, if they're otherwise pleasant, but you can
01:42:53.620
tell, and I'm not really, maybe we don't align, maybe I'm not attracted.
01:42:56.940
I'd say, yeah, the polite thing would be just stick it out.
01:43:09.000
I was brewing because if you're late, and she didn't let me know she was going to be
01:43:21.300
Uh, it was a, uh, it was like a lounge where we were going to grab a drink.
01:43:28.980
She let me know like 10 minutes after I had already arrived.
01:43:34.540
She ended up being, so she was 30 minutes late and, uh, I would have actually been okay
01:43:39.960
if she gave me a token apology, like, Hey, sorry, I was late, but she just stepped and
01:43:45.380
So I was like, all right, let's, uh, so yeah, I was just kind of.
01:43:51.640
So you were taken back and then, then did you try to like, was that it for you?
01:43:55.720
Like you can't move on or was there like a further conversation?
01:44:03.740
So, um, I was basically like, okay, because of this, because you were late, because you
01:44:10.460
didn't offer up, I think the polite courteous thing would be that at least, I wasn't expecting
01:44:14.760
her to be like, get down on one knee and be like, Oh my God, Brian, I'm so sorry.
01:44:23.280
I think that's like the, if you're that late, you say sorry.
01:44:28.860
So I was like, okay, let's just see if she's DTF.
01:44:33.160
So I was like, you want to come back to my place?
01:44:42.900
I don't think most of them would be DTF within the first like 10 minutes of meeting.
01:44:47.840
But I was, it was like, because she didn't apologize.
01:44:50.700
Like you were like, you couldn't see past, you weren't even like going to figure out what
01:44:54.920
Then you immediately went to the DTF and when she was, no, I was waiting for the apology.
01:44:59.600
So you just were sitting there waiting for the apology and it never happened after 10 minutes.
01:45:02.980
You were like, no, I wasn't, it wasn't like awkward silence, but I was like, okay, I guess we
01:45:08.820
could fuck, you know, but you would fuck a person who's that inconsiderate.
01:45:16.860
Cause you already had your mind made up and then she was like sitting there for 10 minutes
01:45:22.800
And then you were just like probably awkwardly thinking, I wonder if she's down to fuck,
01:45:28.380
I don't want to date this person any more than this.
01:45:30.760
And then she, she lacked the necessary courtesy for me to ever consider her for a long-term
01:45:38.460
So I was like, okay, we could maybe be fuck buddies, but I.
01:45:44.140
No, because I thoroughly tanked the interaction when I basically was like, Hey, do you want
01:46:01.020
Most girls would not be down to fuck within 10 minutes of talking to someone.
01:46:11.740
What if you're just stuck in a situation ship with her where.
01:46:51.720
Nobody cares about your gringo accent as long as it is understood.
01:47:15.500
Yeah, I was about to say, you like have resting.
01:47:19.800
It's happened to me more than once where a random person comes up to me and is like,
01:47:34.980
I mean, do you guys have a rebuttal to these people?
01:48:00.800
That's awesome that you can, like, mask it like that.
01:48:20.960
When you're going to be somewhere for like three to five hours straight,
01:48:29.640
It's to make y'all more interesting, to be honest.
01:48:45.140
I just love the fact that, you know, we came in the car.
01:48:48.380
All right, these two bitches would be smoking, be smoking, be high.
01:48:56.640
Pixie's, like, rolling down the window, like, give me some gross hair.
01:49:11.400
There's, like, some post on your Instagram that's like, yeah, I used to be wild.
01:49:22.360
So are we talking when, like, are we talking with men?
01:49:28.260
So for me, I'm a very, I don't have a very high sex drive.
01:49:32.400
So for me, the majority of the time, this, when I am in a committed relationship, like,
01:49:41.260
But generally speaking, unless I feel that level of, like, commitment and attachment
01:49:47.660
It's been very, very rare, few and far between for that to occur.
01:49:58.360
Like, for me to meet somebody who I'm not in a relationship with, who I actually end up
01:50:20.820
But, um, no, I mean, sir, after my relationship breakup, there was something that I did that
01:50:32.860
Like, within the last several months, I hooked up with somebody.
01:50:49.080
And that's not the standard that I hold myself to.
01:51:12.720
It doesn't, no, it doesn't necessarily come from that.
01:51:17.220
I was definitely a little bit of a party animal.
01:51:35.060
We were talking about paying for the first date.
01:51:40.000
We're talking about bringing roses to the first date, which I'm all for.
01:51:46.000
Even if you pick it out from the sidewalk, it's cute.
01:51:47.100
No, don't my mother's flowers off her front yard.
01:51:51.480
Like, if you, like, plucked flowers from our garden and then handed it to me, I'd get shot.
01:52:09.300
Did you guys not feel like that was a little bit rough?
01:52:12.720
Who here considers themselves to have somewhat of a past?
01:52:23.440
When somebody says that to you, I'm like, what do you mean?
01:52:26.060
Yeah, it's also a very ominous question, because I'm sure somebody said that to me.
01:52:29.500
I'd be going through, like, my entire life history.
01:52:37.280
Like, no, but, yeah, my past is pretty checkered.
01:52:41.700
Not with regards to, like, dating, but, I mean, obviously, your past influences the way
01:52:57.800
I don't think I should say right this second, but I have.
01:53:10.640
If you're going to be rowdy, do it when you're charged as a juvenile.
01:53:17.500
I think that's crazy, but, I mean, things happen, so.
01:53:20.980
Oh, she has had, like, a really interesting past that has led her, like, to, like, OnlyFans
01:53:30.840
So, would you say that your pause contributed to your decision to be able to do OnlyFans?
01:53:40.420
I was just doing different types of sex work, and it was just.
01:53:44.200
I was doing different types of sex work, like, everything you could.
01:53:48.900
Everything you could possibly think of, and it was.
01:53:56.380
But, wait, how did you get your start, and when did you start?
01:54:06.800
So, like, what was your high school experience like?
01:54:10.320
Honestly, like, my freshman year, I don't know.
01:54:15.640
So, it was really, like, family life, like, childhood growing up.
01:54:27.920
I talk to them, but they're just, like, people.
01:54:38.000
I mean, how's everyone else's relationship with this family?
01:54:40.380
I think it's crazy that anybody can have a child.
01:54:42.460
I think it's wild that any, like, drug addict, any person who hates children can just have a child.
01:54:48.700
Is that something that commonly happens, like, children haters are just, like, let me just pump out.
01:54:55.720
Well, I think what happens is, like, literally, we have bad sex ed.
01:55:01.140
We have, like, literally people trying to ban contraception.
01:55:04.020
We have, like, people who don't allow for abortions.
01:55:07.680
People get born into, like, shitty family situations, and it's horrible.
01:55:13.360
Should we, are we going to have an abortion debate right now?
01:55:22.040
I just, I honestly strongly believe that most Republicans claim to be, like, pro-life and everything,
01:55:28.020
but then they're against contraception, so I don't think they're actually pro-life or anti-abortion.
01:55:33.480
It's not clear to me that conservatives or Republicans are necessarily anti-contraception.
01:55:40.480
Oh, like, all types of contraception, IUD, emergency birth control, just long-acting.
01:55:47.500
There's, you literally have, let's see, Ohio, Bill 704, Virginia, HB 1395, I believe, Louisiana
01:55:56.440
as well, all in 2022, tried to pass laws banning long-term contraception.
01:56:02.800
So, like, IUDs, like, insane shit like that is happening.
01:56:08.880
Well, no, there's the copper IUD, which is not, because what I have heard from Republicans
01:56:12.520
and conservatives, they make the argument that the hormonal birth controls have a negative
01:56:18.900
impact on, like, fertility and on your health, and it's not good for you to be on it, but,
01:56:24.040
I mean, I suppose, but I don't know if they full outright object to contraception, such
01:56:30.280
as, like, condoms or non-hormonal contraceptives.
01:56:33.380
I mean, and, yeah, in the past, there have been, I think it's been consistently conservatives
01:56:39.300
who have been against legislation allowing for condoms.
01:56:43.200
So, like, for instance, there was a Supreme Court case where people were handing out condoms
01:56:53.620
But, like, in recent history, I don't think conservatives or Republicans are that against
01:57:02.140
Well, in 2022, you had Louisiana, Ohio, Virginia, Texas, all tried to ban long-term, long-access
01:57:11.060
In 2021 and 2022, the federal government tried to pass a bill guaranteeing contraception as
01:57:19.840
Every single Republican in the House voted against it, as well as in the Senate.
01:57:24.320
So this is something that, you know what, the majority of conservatives in general throughout
01:57:28.260
the population, over 90% of the population agrees, this should be a right that people should
01:57:33.980
When you say a right, hold on, just to be clear, just to clarify.
01:57:37.420
The second thing you mentioned there was they just...
01:57:40.660
It sounded like they didn't want to have it be taxpayer-funded.
01:57:46.420
I mean, as a state should not be able to say, hey, it's illegal to sell condoms.
01:57:53.640
I just want to make sure you're not strawmanning the opposition here.
01:57:57.040
There are states that are trying to ban condoms.
01:58:01.980
I haven't heard of that, but is that actually...
01:58:13.920
Right now, it's actually not an issue because of the Supreme Court case, which made it so that...
01:58:17.600
Right now, it's like a constitutional right to have these...
01:58:22.880
Because of a Supreme Court case, but it's not codified.
01:58:26.360
So right now, a state wouldn't be capable of banning abortion.
01:58:38.080
Do you truly think that someone will be a good parent if they did not want a child, but are forced to?
01:58:49.480
If you're going to subject yourself to getting pregnant, if you're going to open your leg,
01:58:53.260
But there are people who just open their legs, but they absolutely would not be good parents.
01:58:59.900
Like, a whole other life form should be a consequence.
01:59:02.300
I don't think you should be allowed to murder somebody just because you think that you might
01:59:07.540
There's other options out there besides murder.
01:59:09.540
I think a life of suffering is better than, like...
01:59:12.740
Adoption doesn't have an actually way to a life of suffering whatsoever.
01:59:15.180
But not many people actually always get adopted.
01:59:21.480
Even if they're an orphan, that doesn't mean that they're a life of suffering.
01:59:24.400
And even if it is a life of suffering, life itself is better than being brutally murdered.
01:59:31.900
And haven't you guys heard of those people who are, like, who literally talk about that?
01:59:36.440
My parents wanted to abort me because this was the situation.
01:59:43.720
My mom wanted to abort me due to what my grandparents said because they are very traditional Hungarian.
01:59:52.660
They do not believe in having children out of wedlock.
01:59:54.960
And so my mom got married when she was, like, six to nine months pregnant with me.
01:59:59.440
But you hear these stories time and time again.
02:00:07.600
Well, there's also different opposite arguments where one of my best friends growing up...
02:00:12.340
Like, I met her in middle school and we're still best friends right now.
02:00:16.800
She said that her parents only ever wanted to have one child and that her mom was pregnant out of wedlock before.
02:00:27.240
And if it weren't for that, she wouldn't have existed.
02:00:29.780
So there are also a lot of people who wouldn't have extra children if it weren't for them becoming financially stable or into wedlock.
02:00:35.900
Like, if you were in wedlock and more financially stable, you would have, like, three or four kids or something.
02:00:40.180
Versus if you're a single mom, sometimes you can't afford to have more, like, healthy, happy, financially stable children.
02:00:49.620
Where I truly do think that if someone cannot afford to have a child and has a really bad relationship
02:00:56.220
and turbulent relationship with everyone around them and are, like, drug addicted,
02:01:06.620
Like, that doesn't negate the fact that it is a life-ended.
02:01:10.500
I find the disparity in this argument is where does life begin then, right?
02:01:16.840
As soon as it happens, from that very moment, some people believe it's at, like, what, 28 weeks?
02:01:23.520
So I think that's the semantics that we come down to.
02:01:25.620
We all agree that it's wrong to terminate a life, to kill somebody.
02:01:31.180
I think the point of disparity is where does that actually begin?
02:01:37.340
That's, like, from my personal perspective and also I think culturally for me and Kathy, like, we're Chinese.
02:01:42.540
And I think for Chinese people or, like, just, like, spiritual, whatever, like, historical, like, religious stuff,
02:01:48.560
like, your soul, you breathe in your soul, your first breath, when you are out the womb.
02:01:53.760
Or whenever you breathe in your first breath, that's when the soul comes in.
02:02:00.360
That's what you guys are taught in, like, your religion or just...
02:02:02.540
I mean, there's not really religion, that much religion in China besides Buddhism, which is, like, they didn't even...
02:02:09.940
She also said that, like, when you're born, you're born at one years old because they consider your life to have started
02:02:18.900
And so, therefore, when you're born, isn't that true?
02:02:28.260
Is that in China or is that other Asian cultures?
02:02:36.380
It's not in China, but you're saying it's in Korea.
02:02:41.020
But you're saying it didn't happen for you in your Chinese.
02:02:43.360
I don't count myself a year older, but I do know some people from China.
02:02:46.080
You're saying that people in general in China, on the balance of probability, meaning at
02:02:49.760
least 51% of the time, are people inclined to believe that or not believe that?
02:02:55.520
Not from my generation, no, but I cannot speak for other generations.
02:03:04.800
Like, on your legal paperwork, when you're born in China, they start counting you one years
02:03:15.800
Here, let's, uh, we're going to move away from abortion here, so...
02:03:19.160
Oh, wait, okay, can I, can I say one more thing, just on the axis of contraception thing?
02:03:24.520
Okay, because you're saying, like, oh, are they banning condoms, blah, blah, blah, but
02:03:30.400
And you can say, oh, no, it's a health thing, maybe it's a health thing, et cetera, et cetera.
02:03:34.320
There has been no study that has shown long impacts on fertility if you're doing it properly.
02:03:38.380
Now, if you're misusing your birth control, if you're doing only emergency contraception,
02:03:42.900
if you're leaving your IUD too long, then that's something else.
02:03:45.960
But, again, you shouldn't ban IUDs as a whole because of that.
02:03:49.440
That's like saying, like, we should ban, like, let's say, soda or something unhealthy if you
02:03:55.220
So, wait, have any of these bans actually been passed on birth control?
02:03:59.400
No, but what has been told over and over again, well, funding has been cut for birth
02:04:04.840
control, for access for birth control, especially in, like, low-income communities.
02:04:09.200
Second of all, you have these groups that continuously say, we're not going to stop
02:04:14.360
And then, on the other hand, you have Republicans who are like, hey, you know, instead of codifying
02:04:22.060
So, it's, to me, in my opinion, imperative that we try to pass this instead of being like,
02:04:31.420
No, I think the reasoning is because the birth rate of the U.S. is going down.
02:04:35.400
The birth rate, we're still increasing in population, no matter what.
02:04:38.640
So, it affects our 401k, our retirement, our Roth IRAs, and overall, like, all of those
02:05:01.120
So, basically, I think that people are panicking and trying to ban abortions and also some certain
02:05:08.960
types of contraception because the birth rate is going down as that's, like, the trend for
02:05:15.880
And, but a lot of our economy is based off of the population and, like, having workers
02:05:25.980
And even, like, when it comes to a new sort of retirement plan, 401k, Roth IRA, it's kind
02:05:31.800
of a Ponzi scheme where they depend on more people to go into the workforce.
02:05:39.840
We're talking about, like, the reason there are a lot of anti-abortion laws being passed
02:05:47.120
You think it's a populist control, like, levelation?
02:05:50.280
Populist control levelation thing is the reason behind the legislation.
02:05:53.200
I think it's partially the reason because you see America talk about, like, Europeans, like,
02:06:02.320
And then it's like, oh, like, they're not going to be an economic power.
02:06:18.280
Okay, before y'all, like, I don't know, some of y'all grimaced when I, when we were talking.
02:06:24.240
Is it a deal breaker if a guy doesn't want to go down on you?
02:06:30.900
Um, if he expects me to go down on him, then yes, it's a deal breaker.
02:06:36.200
So, okay, if a guy didn't want to go down on you, let's say he didn't have an expectation
02:06:46.500
He doesn't have the expectation, but would you still go down on him?
02:06:50.520
Um, probably not if he doesn't want to go down on me.
02:06:58.440
I used to not think it was a deal breaker until I dated someone who only wanted head all
02:07:12.300
But like, he would not give any head whatsoever.
02:07:17.120
Like, I didn't used to, like, care if I had, like, much.
02:07:21.680
But since I dated someone who was like, I only care about head and you, like, should
02:07:28.420
So now I, like, really appreciate men who do go down on women.
02:07:35.660
This guy, he wouldn't do anything to make you come or please you?
02:07:50.660
I feel like that word is kind of used everywhere.
02:07:55.500
I think he just legitimately did not understand that, like, pleasing people is, like, a good
02:08:01.580
Okay, but were you guys, he was, you were just giving him head, like, no sex?
02:08:24.160
See, I, because I don't like to give head, but I like to make my girl come.
02:08:30.600
What if she were to say that she could only come by getting her?
02:08:52.880
There's definitely men out there who, the only way they can come is through head, so.
02:09:00.020
Okay, no, no, no, it's not cap, it's not cap, but there's probably guys who say that, but
02:09:12.960
But there's probably some guys who say they can only come from head, but they might be
02:09:27.620
Well, I'm just saying, because like, with a condom, yeah, that it's kind of, it can be
02:09:36.320
So, under those circumstances, yeah, maybe you can only come from head.
02:09:46.440
But I will say that when, you know, it's a long time ago, but he would come really quick
02:09:52.840
by being jacked off, and that was like a red flag to me.
02:10:00.260
I'd rather masturbate with sandpaper than get a hand job.
02:10:06.360
I'd rather not do anything than get a hand job from a woman.
02:10:18.680
Yo, chat, would you rather, like, if the option with a girl, let's say you're hanging
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out with a girl, and she's like, I'll give you a hand job.
02:10:33.420
I really doubt that Brian, Ellen, I don't know.
02:10:52.460
Will you take it handy, or will you double it and give it to the next person?
02:11:08.280
We did some adjustments with the lights, and I think, chat, one in the chat if it looks blue.
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Okay, when it comes to the hand job thing, here's the option.
02:11:47.780
I'm sorry, you don't have any lotion in your house.
02:11:52.000
You can't just use, like, Neutrogena on your fucking dick.
02:12:02.540
Why are you tracking off Martin Shkreli with some fucking Neutrogena?
02:12:21.340
No, but, but, like, you, okay, obviously if it's a dry handy, which, why the fuck would
02:12:28.840
Okay, dry handy you yourself or dry handy by a girl?
02:12:44.120
Otherwise, these normal women out here who don't have fucking symphony experience don't
02:12:49.880
have the necessary, the requisite technique to do a proper fucking hand job.
02:12:55.580
Yeah, have you got, like, strings on your dick?
02:12:57.620
Like, you gotta have someone that, like, no, bro, bro, bro.
02:12:59.780
It's just like, have you seen, yo, put, Nick, pull up a video of Yo-Yo Ma.
02:13:15.360
They got the fucking, they know how to do that shit.
02:13:25.120
Because obviously if it's dry, you can't, these girls be trying to, like, go over the
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Do you not have, like, do you not have any, like, natural fluids?
02:13:53.380
Nick, I need you a YouTube video box cello suite, number one, by a woman, but we can't
02:14:09.940
I think it's still probably Mike at a copyright, so I just, let's not do it, because even the
02:14:18.300
We're, like, educationally analyzing the hand movements.
02:14:23.780
It's a little on the fence, and I'd rather not risk it, unfortunately.
02:14:29.840
Yeah, so deal breaker for you, if the guy doesn't want to go down on you?
02:14:34.820
If he just first, like, off the bat says, like, oh, I don't do that.
02:15:18.620
Lauren, I am offended on behalf of women with large labias.
02:15:26.800
I will not stand for you shaming the natural way in which some women, some women's pussies
02:15:35.420
I demand an apology to all the women out there.
02:16:12.260
Speaking of mothers, Lauren, is your mom single?
02:16:19.860
She's married to my dad, and they get along swiftly.
02:16:29.780
You've never told us why you like the large labia.
02:16:36.420
Do you want me to actually articulate this shit?
02:17:00.840
We need more men like you, though, because all these women are getting surgeries.
02:17:15.660
No, it's like 10,000 a year women in the United States get labiaplasty, where they get their...
02:17:26.500
Ladies, if there's any ladies watching who feel self-conscious about their large labia,
02:17:30.640
I will talk you out of getting a labiaplasty, my DMs are open.
02:17:34.980
I wonder if there's any trans people who are like, give me a big one.
02:17:45.180
You laugh, and then you're like, wait a second.
02:17:58.840
He wants to go into detail now that you've asked.
02:18:09.960
I don't know how to articulate it, but it just kind of feels better.
02:18:47.960
Well, a woman of the night would be like a courtesan.
02:18:51.180
Do you have like a little red light for her to flash in the window?
02:18:59.360
No, that's like to signify that you're working.
02:19:02.300
I wouldn't get with her because it's just like, you know, what's the point?
02:19:18.020
From a purely aesthetic point of view, I actually like women who have either like, say, red hair,
02:20:11.240
When it comes to the hair, aesthetically, I like it.
02:20:15.660
There's a pretty strong correlation with if you have color in your hair, you're like
02:20:18.980
a woke, super, super liberal, social justice warrior person.
02:20:25.380
Whereas in the past, like you're probably, it just meant you were like, if you had.
02:20:35.840
If you had color in your hair like 10 years ago, it meant that you, it might not have anything
02:20:41.240
You could be apolitical, just have color in your hair, and you were like into rock, alt-rock,
02:20:47.260
Yeah, when I went here in college, I had blue hair just all the time.
02:21:01.960
They actually know, because like now as a conservative, when you have colored hair, it really makes
02:21:07.580
Like, I had purple hair in law school, and then I'd be like super hard.
02:21:13.460
They thought I was trolling as a conservative, because I'd like come into con law class being
02:21:21.720
I'll wait for it to go overturned, bitches, and then when it, like, got overturned.
02:21:29.960
Okay, Piximus Maximus, I have a question for you.
02:21:34.160
Wait, oh, actually, before that, deal breaker for the guy who won't go down on you?
02:21:52.800
I think where it would be a deal breaker, I think for a lot of women, they don't give
02:21:56.900
head because they fucking love it, because they salviate at the concept of being able
02:22:04.640
It's because they want to pleasure their partner.
02:22:09.620
And so if a man, if you're not doing it for the love of being a throat goblin, right,
02:22:14.440
and you just want to pleasure your partner, and that is not replicated.
02:22:20.280
There isn't a symbiotic relationship in that sense, and yes, I would have a problem with
02:22:25.640
If it wasn't on that type of a level, then it would be fine.
02:22:32.640
So, I mean, if she's a throat goblin prior, then yes.
02:22:39.260
However, if she's just doing it purely because she wants to pleasure her man and make him
02:22:44.020
happy, and he's not willing to reciprocate that, then I would have a problem with that.
02:23:02.820
But, like, have you ever had a girl say that she wouldn't date you because you wouldn't
02:23:16.440
Yeah, do you, are you worried that any of your exes are like, and, not only that, not
02:23:21.480
only would he wear the same stupid flannel to all of our nice dates, but he also, he
02:23:27.820
also would not go down on me, and he'd be like, oh!
02:23:31.120
And, like, if he would ask for it all the time, like, do you worry that that's what
02:23:36.380
That they're telling, well, I think, on a serious note, I think it would be, I mean,
02:23:43.100
besides the fact that I've already disclosed this publicly, I do think it would be in bad
02:23:47.220
taste to, like, disclose, well, man, women do that shit anyways, to disclose, like, private
02:23:56.700
I believe that there ought to be certain things that you have discretion about when it comes
02:24:01.060
to current partners and past partners, but would it bother me if she was like, yeah,
02:24:08.540
Do you think that's, like, one of their major complaints, though?
02:24:12.960
Most of, I'd say most of the women that I end up, there's definitely women out there
02:24:16.300
that, I mean, I don't know if there's any girls here at the table, but some women actually
02:24:25.680
Like, it's not my favorite thing, but it's considerate.
02:24:39.660
Like, you don't have to go down on me, but you have to choke me.
02:24:48.300
Like, when we're talking choke, are we talking just a hand on the throat, or are we talking
02:25:03.680
She gives the throat, and she doesn't want to be choked, but she doesn't care about that.
02:25:14.940
I have a question for you on the whole choking thing.
02:25:18.480
Was it something that you either saw in porn, or was it something that one partner, you
02:25:26.420
didn't know you liked it, but a partner did it, and then you're like, ooh, I kind of like
02:25:30.380
How did you discover that you like to be choked?
02:25:34.080
I think there's many ways, whether it's movies or animes or partners.
02:26:03.840
So, choking, how did you, was it a dude that introduced you, or you read Fifty Shades of
02:26:15.660
There's actually, definitely previous partners, too.
02:26:26.500
My recommendation to men is, if she just wants, like, a hand on the neck and you do a little
02:26:36.480
If she wants to be choked the fuck out, make sure you, uh, have your lawyer ready to go.
02:26:48.380
Do you ever like to dumb, or are you just dumb?
02:26:53.000
So, like, in your house, do you own, like, handcuffs, whips, all of that sort of stuff?
02:27:01.780
Not, like, a dungeon, but, you know, like, a little drawer.
02:27:07.320
Um, it's not, unfortunately, my place is not big enough, but maybe eventually.
02:27:30.340
We're talking about not deal breaker if the dude doesn't want to go down.
02:27:32.680
I'm going to ask you, like, how important is it to you to make your partner reach the O?
02:27:45.280
How important is it for you to make your part, to get your partner to reach the O?
02:27:54.640
Yeah, like, if you, let's say you, like, you come, you're happy, you're like, okay, good to go!
02:28:00.600
Are you, or are you like, okay, I'm going to make sure she...
02:28:04.020
So, my goal is to always have my partner, my girl come before me.
02:28:10.740
It's a little bit more forgivable than for not going down on her.
02:28:12.980
No, no, like, I don't like to give head, but, like, I enjoy to make my partner come.
02:28:22.740
But, uh, and you can achieve that with hands, with toys.
02:28:34.380
You're just with hands and toys, but not with your tongue.
02:28:35.980
That's the one thing that you usually, you would hope it would be, just fire.
02:28:41.700
I mean, oh, okay, you're talking about G-spot orgasm?
02:28:44.880
I mean, for some, for some women, that's more difficult.
02:28:52.380
If you're gonna make her fucking G-spot orgasm with your dick, but, like...
02:28:56.600
Uh, and here's the thing, though, is women's orgasm response is so much more varied than it is in men.
02:29:02.760
So, you'll have women, I've dated women, who are, like, multi-orgasmic, who can come in, like, 10 seconds, without toys, without hands, just, uh, pee in the V.
02:29:13.160
Like, and they'll come, like, 10 times in a row.
02:29:16.280
And then you'll have other women, you can use the most intensive vibrator on their clit while having sex, while fucking spank, like, psychologically stimulating her, and they still can't come.
02:29:26.760
So, the orgasm response in women is super varied.
02:29:29.360
And some women, like, need very gentle pressure if it's on the clit.
02:29:32.820
Some women need, like, a bit more firm pressure.
02:29:42.680
Yeah, bro, I'm, I'm, I've been fucking since I've, for a minute.
02:29:49.480
And I haven't been, I, I have gone down on a girl, like, maybe...
02:29:52.960
It has occurred, but, like, it's, it's been since the Bush administration.
02:29:56.840
Do you think men's body count matters as much as women's body count?
02:30:07.580
I don't know if I'm answering your question by saying that, but I think women care less about body count than do men care about body count.
02:30:15.980
I think, um, a lot of conservative traditional women.
02:30:21.720
Also, I think the head subject is a skill issue.
02:30:29.080
Yeah, you said you only did it, like, a handful of times?
02:30:33.060
Is it because you didn't get the reward and, like, the reaction?
02:30:48.620
I feel like a lot of women do it for that reason, right?
02:30:51.980
They do it because they want to pleasure their man.
02:31:05.860
And so, what do you have to say to that, though?
02:31:07.800
Like, is it a little bit different when your woman is only giving you head because she wants to pleasure you?
02:31:13.160
And then you come to the table saying, this is not something I'm willing to do?
02:31:16.820
Are you able to see that in a different light versus a girl who's just like...
02:31:22.960
So, there is a girl, right, in your example that you give, who is like, oh, she...
02:31:27.220
Because I don't want to give it, now she doesn't want to give it, right?
02:31:32.480
That's not very good in relationships in general.
02:31:34.940
But what if it is a woman who is only giving you head because she does it for your pleasure?
02:31:42.540
And she's like, I don't enjoy this, but I love to see my man get off.
02:31:52.060
Okay, so you don't enjoy seeing your girl happy to the point that you become...
02:32:01.300
What Amy is trying to say, and tell me if I'm wrong,
02:32:03.940
is women will enjoy the act of giving head because they enjoy seeing their partners happy,
02:32:13.020
Like, you hate the act so much that even if your partner's enjoying it,
02:32:21.520
Your pain of doing it and your neck problems supersede the joy that you get from seeing a woman get off, right?
02:32:29.100
And so, what I'm saying is maybe a woman has neck problems, back problems, whatever.
02:32:32.920
She doesn't like it, but she does it because...
02:32:40.100
So, would you see that there is a different instances versus a girl who's just like,
02:32:44.540
it's tit for tat, I'm not going to do this just because you won't do that.
02:32:49.120
Okay, so the question is, would I be upset if she was tit for tat with it?
02:32:52.740
No, a girl who isn't tit for tat, who genuinely, the only reason she was doing it is because it brings you pleasure.
02:33:03.120
Reciprocate that, and she says, okay, well, if it's non-reciprocal in that sense...
02:33:16.600
Why can't you enjoy it the same way she would enjoy it?
02:33:34.320
Okay, so there's women who say, okay, it's tit for tat.
02:33:39.060
So, if you aren't going to go down on me, I'm not going to go down on you.
02:33:47.100
But they say, I'm not going to do it because you don't want to do it to me.
02:33:56.140
Versus the woman who says, maybe, like, I don't enjoy giving it, but I will give it to you
02:34:07.240
You said that you would have a problem dating a woman like that.
02:34:10.260
There is a woman who is saying it's tit for tat.
02:34:14.900
Or would you have a problem with, you know, a woman who enjoys, who's only giving it to give
02:34:20.180
Like, would you have a problem with either of them?
02:34:36.800
She enjoys giving you head because it makes you happy.
02:34:42.240
She enjoys giving you head because it makes you happy.
02:34:55.820
So she doesn't like the physical sensation, but she does it because it makes you happy.
02:35:02.640
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
02:35:09.140
It's enthusiastic because she knows that it like.
02:35:16.180
Bro, I don't want, I don't want like a, fuck, what's the word?
02:35:26.660
Get the fuck out of here with your begrudging blowjob.
02:35:28.360
No, no, no, she is passionate because it makes you happy.
02:35:31.540
But then she also wants head because it will make her happy even if the feeling is neutral.
02:35:44.640
You can check out her vibrator and index finger.
02:35:47.500
Bro, what, is she going to bust out a fleshlight?
02:35:55.200
I've seen some of these like mechanical fleshlight things.
02:36:06.060
It's a difference between a woman who's like, oh, you don't want to go down on me?
02:36:10.200
Versus a woman who likes it, who would do that anyway.
02:36:14.040
Or a woman who says, I would never do that, but I'm just doing it to pleasure you.
02:36:25.420
Is it a deal breaker for you if a woman doesn't give head?
02:36:31.140
It's not a deal breaker, but she's a little less appealing.
02:36:43.880
There was one relationship I had, and it was actually a good relationship.
02:37:01.040
So I would have probably, because here's the thing.
02:37:04.140
I think that you can, just because your partner doesn't want to engage in a certain sexual activity
02:37:10.740
doesn't mean that you necessarily have to be like, oh, so I'm not going to do that shit for you.
02:37:17.840
Like, I don't think, like Amy said, I don't think it has to be tit for tat.
02:37:22.480
But I did have a relationship with a girl like that.
02:37:26.740
And fell apart with tit for tat for other things?
02:37:34.060
So, but I mean, we were having, we were just having sex instead.
02:37:43.060
No, we had a relationship, but just she wasn't going down on me.
02:37:48.260
But I'd say the most of my other relationships, I don't go down on the girl.
02:37:57.040
And you use tit, you use, yeah, you still make them finish and everything?
02:38:02.100
Sometimes I make them come before they even go down on me.
02:38:25.740
Before she puts her, so you go inside her before she puts her mouth on you?
02:38:29.560
I just don't get how you didn't get what my question, I don't get how you didn't get
02:38:37.000
So you were saying you would have a problem with a woman who does that.
02:38:42.880
But what if the only reason she was doing that was because she is just, she just wants
02:38:56.500
What is more enjoyable to do, to give head or to eat pussy?
02:39:12.060
I would say giving head to a man is a lot more work because giving head to a woman is
02:39:18.360
just like simple tongue action flicking, you know, but for a man, you have to put a
02:39:22.680
whole like engorged thing inside of your mouth continuously.
02:39:26.180
It's gaped wide open and sometimes, you know, they take a while.
02:39:31.280
So it's like, so it's not only more work and she's doing it for his pleasure and then
02:39:35.160
he's like, I'm not even going to do the easier task for your pleasure because I just
02:39:39.900
He doesn't like it, not even because he doesn't like it, but he can't even be like, I'm just
02:39:46.000
That's the problem that I have with it because most women are not sucking dick because they
02:39:53.360
Well, that's why I'm just like, unless if it's even, what's it?
02:40:19.920
I just don't think, look, there's some things that women might not like in the bedroom.
02:40:23.900
There's some things that men might not like in the bedroom.
02:40:26.080
Ultimately, we all have our preferences when it comes to what we like and what we don't
02:40:29.480
And I don't think it has to be totally reciprocal.
02:40:32.120
I don't think it has to be totally, or sorry, not reciprocal, symmetrical.
02:40:37.840
You know, I certainly, what I do find interesting though, is there seems to be a lot of pushback
02:40:50.740
Like, it's much easier to go, as opposed to go, ah, what the fuck?
02:41:17.660
No, I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe you're discriminating against him.
02:41:25.080
I, God, I had a feeling there was an, there was something between you two.
02:41:51.820
So, okay, we've been talking about something degenerate, so let's talk about something toxic
02:42:30.180
Drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one.
02:42:32.160
Nick, can you also pull up the Twitter post from, that we got to react to?
02:42:39.960
So, would you ever date someone with an OnlyFans?
02:42:51.840
One in the chat, would you date a girl who has an OnlyFans?
02:42:54.280
Two in the chat, you would not date a girl who has an OnlyFans.
02:42:59.680
I mean, OnlyFans, also, there's like a whole spectrum.
02:43:04.540
So, there's people who only do cooking on there, or there's people who do full sex work,
02:43:12.320
At the end of the day, your reputation is going to be affected regardless.
02:43:16.520
And anyone going into that career and that profession should be very aware of the label
02:43:21.640
that they're going to get, irregardless of the type of work they're doing on the platform.
02:43:24.560
Yeah, but I think a lot of people assume OnlyFans is only porn, for example.
02:43:29.960
And they wouldn't date someone who is doing that specifically.
02:43:33.820
But anybody who's willing to cast themselves within that same light and same shadow
02:43:40.260
So, whether or not they're willing to do the same act, like you just said,
02:43:45.660
Therefore, if somebody is willing, is a willing person going into that,
02:43:50.900
they know the type of ramification this is going to have on their dating prospects,
02:43:56.760
So, if they still choose to go into that, engaging in it,
02:44:00.080
then they should cop the full ramifications of that,
02:44:02.820
whether or not they're doing BG contact, whether or not they're naked.
02:44:07.220
No, but in LA, I think in LA, if someone's like, I have an OnlyFans,
02:44:12.220
Versus, I think, outside of LA, people are kind of like,
02:44:43.480
It's kind of like if men are giving me unwanted attention anyway,
02:44:48.840
Are you doing something other than OnlyFans to, like, supplement your income?
02:44:54.980
I'm a property manager, and I own several properties.
02:44:57.200
Are you worried that OnlyFans is going to hurt your real estate business at all?
02:45:04.100
No, I actually think that social media has given me a lot more opportunity
02:45:08.040
when it comes to clients, when it comes to being, like, a buyer's agent
02:45:13.100
I can just post, like, hey, like, does anyone want to sell a house?
02:45:15.940
And people actually don't personally know that many real estate agents, surprisingly.
02:45:20.160
So I actually get more listings and more people to be my clients than before.
02:45:26.760
It'd be like, oh, yeah, my parents need to sell a house.
02:45:28.900
And it's really surprising because I never thought those would intertwine,
02:45:33.840
I feel like whenever you have a really big following, though, irregardless,
02:45:37.720
you could put up any offer, and there's going to be people who fall through the cracks, right?
02:45:42.160
Who you're like, okay, this is my ideal client.
02:45:44.460
It just is law of averages if you have a big enough following.
02:45:47.200
But on the balance of probability, I would not deem that as, like,
02:45:52.360
To be able to attract real estate clients, for example.
02:45:56.120
Yeah, however, I had a lot of people in my class,
02:45:58.200
so I had to go through, like, the real estate exam and everything
02:46:01.640
I would say, like, majority of my classmates, like, have not ever had a listing,
02:46:06.460
for example, or have had deals, even though they've been in the industry
02:46:16.160
So because you're a sole proprietor and you have to, like,
02:46:18.340
get into your brokerage yourself, there's not, like,
02:46:23.000
You have to kind of, like, hustle your own way.
02:46:25.440
And it's all about, like, your spirit and who you know
02:46:29.440
Like, it actually is advantageous if you have a social media.
02:46:32.140
Like, ironically, like, the people who work really hard
02:46:39.780
Would the people in your network deem you in a sort of light
02:46:52.040
and the people in your network generally regard you in such a light,
02:47:00.060
What's more profitable, your real estate agent,
02:47:03.200
like, your real estate business, or your OnlyFans?
02:47:09.320
So why don't you just go all in in real estate then?
02:47:11.680
Because it's, like, an extra six figures a year.
02:47:15.700
it's really hard to go all in on multiple things, right?
02:47:33.200
or, like, the real estate networking connections
02:47:36.100
to help them invest in different real estate properties.
02:47:44.320
that the only way that they can make six figures
02:47:46.560
is by literally turning themselves into a commodity
02:47:50.820
But you make six figures through another avenue,
02:48:09.720
So, do you actually recruit girls for OnlyFans?
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Um, I would say most people already do OnlyFans
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yeah, like, if anyone wants to ask me questions,
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Irregardless of whether you're an agency or not,
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Like, that's not going to do anything for them.
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injuries um i think if you were 18 years old in
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the years preceding that it would be a pretty like
04:42:29.760
you are literally comparing basically all women did
04:42:37.440
subjugation of either their husbands or fathers
04:42:43.920
it's not protection when they can legally beat your ass
04:42:47.060
um you're saying you're saying this as if wholesale men were just
04:42:51.280
every day no no i'm saying the fact that it could be any
04:42:55.340
that all women were not guaranteed these protections
04:42:58.480
that's what i'm saying i'm saying that if you're a woman and you don't
04:43:02.340
have the right to vote you don't have the right to change legislation
04:43:04.380
guess what like if a man what percentage of men do you think were just
04:43:08.580
frequently beating their wives it doesn't matter about what percentage
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it matters that you couldn't get justice for it
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i don't have like it doesn't matter again it's not the what percentage it's
04:43:19.060
the fact that it could happen and it is seen as normalized and okay if it
04:43:22.440
happens because that's just a dumb lady you know second
04:43:25.640
class citizen like broad should is they even smart enough to
04:43:29.340
vote i think even today women at the time i feel like didn't
04:43:32.640
feel like that though when you like some of them may be depending on
04:43:35.420
circumstances but when you look back at a lot of the videos from women
04:43:38.600
as the feminist movement was happening they're asking them like what do you
04:43:42.360
think about all of this and they're like i don't know about it i don't know
04:43:47.720
could honestly potentially be bad it could potentially put us in bad
04:43:52.160
situations this could be dangerous i like the freedom to be able to be at
04:43:58.420
out there in the workplace i like a lot of them
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you still choose that happy with it it's not freedom if you don't get to choose
04:44:04.000
feminism is about like you can either choose to be a stay-at-home mom and not
04:44:08.300
go to work not go to school and it's fine or you can choose to be a career
04:44:11.280
woman so i think that's the point to have the freedom to choose
04:44:14.060
versus before like it's not normal for women to go to college for example
04:44:17.720
or do right but that doesn't necessarily equate to them being oppressed and i
04:44:21.380
think that's a big problem is people automatically assume that women at the
04:44:24.600
time were oppressed there's a lot of women who are more than happy
04:44:27.500
doing that and there's a lot of women do that and there's but there's a lot of
04:44:30.920
women now today who when they want to live that more traditional lifestyle
04:44:34.780
they are judged by the boss babes of this generation by the women who are
04:44:39.760
making a lot of these arguments that we're discussing here today and
04:44:42.940
literally look down on women who are advocating for a more traditional lifestyle
04:44:48.120
i think true feminists really are just for women's choice like it's for women's
04:44:53.320
freedom like if you want to be a stay-at-home mom if that's all you want to
04:44:56.340
be that's totally fine just don't judge a woman who is sexually liberated and
04:45:01.420
trying to do their own thing because men can choose to do that too and it's okay
04:45:05.500
i think um when it comes to argument we shouldn't shame women for being
04:45:09.960
promiscuous and having high body counts if we're not shaming men as much yeah if
04:45:14.700
we're not shaming men i mean it depends i feel like we're more so stigmatized for
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it yeah no women are stigmatized but i think that that is such a cop-out answer
04:45:24.360
though i feel like at the end of the day you both still risk sd's and you both
04:45:27.760
still risk like the being a child coming alive out of that coitus so
04:45:31.880
honestly the whole idea that's like oh no it's just different it's i think it's a
04:45:35.140
cop-out for consequences and biological reasons because of paternity
04:45:38.520
uncertainty yeah i know and i'm saying the consequences are the same and i don't
04:45:41.560
think you should cope with the idea that like oh no like you still have these
04:45:45.100
immense responsibilities at the end of the day and if you want to talk about
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evo psych huh not yet not yet no no it was like just like i didn't just the top
04:45:53.860
that's the top of a little bit of color oh and if you want to rosiness i'm sure it's not
04:46:00.340
shadow possibly because you're fine now okay it looked different to how it looked a second
04:46:05.260
okay we're fine okay what up hey i was gonna say and if you want to talk about evo psych there are
04:46:10.440
strong like evolutionary imperatives for a man to stay with a certain woman to not go like sleep
04:46:16.440
with around multiple because it's harder to guarantee impregnation in that way guarantee
04:46:20.660
paternity yeah guarantee paternity right and then on top of that you know you still risk
04:46:25.460
STDs if you sleep around especially back then so it makes more sense to stay with one woman
04:46:29.980
and then again the consequence of having a child even if your physical body is not going through
04:46:34.340
those changes that you know responsibility that you still feel obliged to so there are strong
04:46:39.320
evo psych reasons for men to not sleep around that's not what i was arguing i was saying why men
04:46:45.800
are more why men care more about women's promiscuity well you're i okay i thought that you
04:46:52.560
are arguing that like it doesn't matter if men are promiscuous or there's biological reasons why
04:46:56.880
it's okay for men i'm not in favor of male promiscuity well i feel like going with what
04:47:00.860
you're saying though it would be the opposite i feel like what you're saying is a point for what
04:47:04.180
he is making why we why men don't like women being promiscuous because they want to guarantee their
04:47:08.820
paternity if the woman is sleeping with multiple men he cannot guarantee that that's going to be his
04:47:13.620
kid he could be spending time resources no but but here's the thing our brains don't know the
04:47:19.080
difference and yes we have our logic and we have our reason but 95 to 99 of everything we do
04:47:25.660
is subconscious we don't consciously think about it it's based off programming and then a lot of the
04:47:31.780
conditioning in that old part of our brain that is literally still dictating our emotions and
04:47:36.300
decisions to this day but why are we so different in our perspectives if we're both similarly
04:47:41.580
programmed and that's where the nature versus nurture argument comes in so i do agree that
04:47:45.460
nurture does to some degree have some pull it absolutely does but i'm saying on the balance
04:47:51.320
of probability when you put people into an environment and there is no external influences
04:47:55.720
i feel like people will still have a natural inclination or drive or proclivity to act within
04:48:01.560
a certain way irregardless without any societal pressures and norms if you they were just free
04:48:07.140
roaming like in the forest like we're all like nomads without any sort of social construct people would
04:48:14.900
care highly about body count like i do yes i try i think that women would still feel low self-esteem
04:48:21.060
i think they would still suffer depression i feel like they would still suffer uh suffer uh what's
04:48:25.520
the word it's escaping me right now but they would still feel these things naturally without society's
04:48:31.020
judgments based on them and that's where society's judgments come from we didn't pull this shit out of
04:48:37.460
thin air and decide let's just make our own rules the rules were created out of natural so i would
04:48:44.880
say that the rules of in a capitalistic society is created around capitalism and i would say that
04:48:51.020
social economic like your your degree of happiness is largely determined by income like there's like
04:48:57.700
a technical like economics of happiness and the scale goes up like if you're you know making zero income
04:49:02.560
you're miserable here's like the happiness scale but then if you make 70k a year it's like all the way
04:49:07.820
up here there's a huge difference and then i i know it like diminishes it's kind of like an e-curve
04:49:11.880
but when you make over 100k it doesn't really make much of a difference to your happiness levels
04:49:16.140
apparently yeah it's okay we need to wrap up here soon so i do need to move things along um let me
04:49:21.560
just get in these chats okay we have oh actually nick can you pull up twitch guys go to twitch.tv
04:49:28.440
slash whatever drops the follow drops the prime sub uh thank you guys for all the uh follows and
04:49:32.980
primes twitch.tv slash whatever all right we have hold on we have let me see uh i think sorry that
04:49:40.760
we're just getting to these now guys um gordon's fisherman
04:49:44.000
kathy can you read this one kathy we need the details on your mom asking wait into the mic please
04:49:51.200
oh kathy we need the details on your mom asking for brian um keep reading oh okay emmy got a point
04:49:59.860
western society failed education and failed women with societal expect expectations pixie men and women
04:50:08.020
aren't equal the east treats women better and more naturally hashtag passport bros um what are the
04:50:15.200
details on your mom asking for brian i don't know if i should tell you that like oh you know
04:50:20.600
we gotta go we gotta go you want to set this up after the show is that what you're saying
04:50:24.200
all right eyes wide shut hey thank you for the canadian 50 imagine triple majoring and the result
04:50:28.800
being straight to dvd joe dirt okay your response pixie i don't know how to respond to that you can
04:50:36.380
roast him back look at he's got some he's doing two thumbs up i don't know you could he's i don't
04:50:41.360
know i think it's kind of sad he paid how much money canadian 50 so that's like a dollar american i
04:50:46.980
think i think it's kind of sad to pay 50 dollars to call canadian someone canadian 50 dollars to call
04:50:54.480
someone joe dirt that was a good movie it's not i think it might be a compliment i think it's a
04:50:58.440
compliment right right it's probably compliment probably probably a compliment okay all right
04:51:03.320
conan 19 opinion on a man with a lot of body hair versus zero body hair uh ladies do you prefer body
04:51:09.500
hair or do you prefer a guy with minimal or no body hair minimal minimal oh if it's too much it gets
04:51:20.000
like kind of gross it gets in the way chest hair it's okay to have a little bit it's just overwhelming
04:51:26.200
oh and the pubic or like like the back i don't like that you can't expect me i don't like back
04:51:29.820
hair if they look like a bear i'm out no i don't know i see a little something you just imagine
04:51:36.260
yeah i like i like super masculine so just hairy just like big and hairy okay uh amy uh yeah minimal
04:51:49.120
i mean what do you define this when i like kiss yeah it hurts i want the pain i mean what if they're
04:51:56.360
like you know six no gain okay we have dragon's talon thank you man uh thank you very much women
04:52:03.560
could vote before 1920 it was just a state issue not a federal on hey 25 female mayors hundreds of
04:52:10.460
elected female positions and even one female u.s house of representative member before 1920 men
04:52:15.740
were not the only ones who voted for them also this whole like um this whole this whole thing
04:52:21.900
about women not having the right to vote it was a very short period where men wholesale had the right
04:52:28.520
to vote and women didn't uh for the vast majority of human history no one did most most men couldn't
04:52:36.000
vote most women couldn't vote so it's like a maybe a hundred year period even less that women or that
04:52:44.880
men could en masse vote and then women just couldn't so it's it's been it's not years now since we can
04:52:52.320
vote so i think it's around equal now yeah we're probably chilling okay we got spencer richmond with
04:52:57.280
just the 50. hey thank you very much spencer appreciate it uh let's see how we doing here uh
04:53:02.960
uh i think we're caught up on everything uh anyone final thought really quick before we wrap
04:53:08.580
body count i love seeing pixie mad anyone anybody want to share their body i think depression stems
04:53:16.460
from mostly socioeconomic circumstances when you don't have like a stable place to live rather than
04:53:22.420
body count yeah because or um i was going back at what amy was saying with how a lot of women will
04:53:29.000
feel depression if they were um having high body counts but i think that most people are depressed
04:53:36.300
in society in general if they are of lower income level because there's like the the triangle of
04:53:42.500
knees like the top is like self-actualization and then the bottom is like food shelter your basic
04:53:47.660
necessity is being met yeah but i think that your your mental health complaint like i feel like there are
04:53:52.860
some people who would be happier making 40 000 per year or being broke who are not putting
04:53:59.340
themselves through that versus women who are making 400 000 per year who are sexualizing themselves or
04:54:05.440
sleeping with men for money i think that they're the vast majority of 40k earners would be happier
04:54:10.820
than the 400k earners who are whoring themselves out or who are making themselves into a commodity
04:54:16.340
what about like 200k 400k like what about like a woman who's 500k we gotta wrap it up guys
04:54:23.020
i wrap it up uh pixie last thing do you what do you think of men what do i think of men do you
04:54:28.840
dislike men no i love men oh you do yeah that's why i get sad like i that's why i say men are
04:54:35.440
oppressed and stuff because i think they are and that's sad it seems like feminists don't really
04:54:39.660
like men no i love men that's the bad ones i think okay all right guys last call hit the like
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button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the
04:54:47.620
world but you were here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and
04:54:51.800
supports the show thank you to the panel uh it's a good it's a decent panel oh okay we got eyes
04:54:57.560
wide shut really quick i'll get that in just a second can you pull that up it's weird that that
04:55:02.240
one popped up um and the rest didn't yo thank you man for the canadian hundred uh so now having
04:55:06.940
money to throw around is a negative pixie so which is it i got bags and i'm well above six feet
04:55:11.440
what's it to you besides being too high value for the likes of you i don't know i feel like did
04:55:17.140
you hear that pixie he's too high value for you i feel like this is how i feel like he wants me
04:55:23.020
like he's like trying to like flex like nagging yeah it's net that's what it's it's giving me
04:55:27.980
would you wait pixie if he went to streamlabs.com slash whatever right now and dropped a champagne
04:55:34.060
trigger how much thousand dollars um would you go on a date with him um just please say yes so we
04:55:42.240
can drink champagne yeah you gotta do a quick eyes wide shut i'm wrapping just for you brian just
04:55:47.900
eyes wide shut you want us to pop some champagne you gotta you got you got three minutes so you'll
04:55:52.160
go on a flight oh wait i this has it has to be live filmed i don't feel comfortable going alone
04:55:57.900
to see the students i'll go with you i'll shop around we'll have him on the podcast and you come
04:56:01.880
back okay okay i feel like pixie i think you're super progressive and liberal but i feel like the
04:56:10.220
type of guy you go for is just like the most intense conservative super trad like christian super
04:56:20.680
religious you guys just think that because i get along with all the trad cons
04:56:24.500
um so okay uh thank you to the panel let's see we have oh thank you to brit for helping with
04:56:34.520
timestamps any women who want to be on the show dm out whatever on instagram we will be live again
04:56:39.700
what tuesday at oh yep he's not okay he's not gonna do that tuesday at 5 p.m he doesn't it's not that he
04:56:46.720
doesn't want to give me the it's it's me he just doesn't obviously it's not that he can drop a
04:56:52.120
thousand bucks do you think he's too never mind what about anyone else though he can drop it on
04:56:56.820
anyone else yeah you can drop it on kathy's kind of sort of single but not really you're definitely
04:57:03.600
single pixie's single as fuck you got a relationship kathy's mom is single yes she is yeah hey you could
04:57:13.200
swoop you could swoop and try to get kathy's mom in florida kathy's mom has got it going on
04:57:19.160
do you have oh it looked like you were doing a hand raise pixie do you have something oh no i'm
04:57:26.920
chilling i'm just happy guys be sure to go subscribe to pixie's only fans i'm just kidding she doesn't
04:57:32.360
have one right but is it in the works is it i mean i have would you start one i not only fans i have
04:57:38.380
cosplay pictures that i've thought about doing a fans leave for well i just i'm afraid that if i
04:57:43.360
do that i'm gonna get a bunch of people like pressuring me to do nudes all the time and i
04:57:47.080
don't know word okay guys be sure to tune in tuesday amy will be joining us again on tuesday uh we have a
04:57:57.020
we have a crazy panel on tuesday it's gonna be insane it's gonna be wild so be sure to tune in on
04:58:02.980
tuesday all right guys we'll see you next time good night guys oh my god it's like one drop you gotta