Whatever Podcast - April 06, 2026


HEATED DEBATE! She Got Her Ex DEPORTED?! Excommunicated Mormon⧸LDS?! Woke E-GIRL?! | Dating Talk 289


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00:00:00.000 welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
00:00:24.800 hellscape i'm your host brian atlas i i do want to apologize uh for our delay guys
00:00:29.780 we're going to just jump right in. I overbooked today. So we have 13 people total, including
00:00:38.100 myself. So usually if we overbook, it's a little bit, you know, harder to get everything all set
00:00:44.040 up, you know, that we got to bring on extra mics and it's just a bit longer of a process. So I do
00:00:48.920 apologize for the delay there. I overbook because almost like clockwork, we can expect the day of
00:00:56.780 two three four people are gonna uh no show the day before people are gonna or flake whatever
00:01:02.980 but uh everybody was very reliable today so that's good but also uh makes for a very crowded
00:01:11.660 table here so uh i do want to apologize for the delay the delay excuse me uh we're gonna have the
00:01:16.980 guests introduce themselves so tell us your name age occupation uh where you're from and your
00:01:22.400 education level all right i'm shona i'm 18 and i'm originally from the bay but i'm a freshman
00:01:29.580 in college right now all right what are you studying i'm studying psychological and brain
00:01:33.780 sciences okay welcome what about you hi my name is griselda i'm originally from mexico but i
00:01:40.640 currently live in san antonio texas i'm a business business owner and i just got my gd here in these
00:01:47.640 states age 33 33 okay what about you my name is i'm 25 i am a stay-at-home mom i do only fans and
00:02:00.940 i run a maid cafe a maid cafe okay what's that um it's like a kind it's like kind of like a
00:02:09.480 kai guy idol where you like serve people food but they also pay you to like dance and where are you
00:02:16.200 from? Las Vegas. Vegas. Okay. What about you? My name is Lisey. I'm 21. I run a music venue in
00:02:25.060 Utah. I don't go to college, nothing like that. Any college? Nope. Okay. And you're from Utah,
00:02:34.420 Salt Lake City? Provo. Are you LDS? No, not anymore. Used to be though? Yeah, when I was a
00:02:41.440 kid okay all right what about you my name is barbara adamson i am from missouri i am 38 years
00:02:48.620 old i am the media coordinator for a pro-life non-profit i'm a writer i dabble in content
00:02:56.040 creation and i have a master of arts in english and a master of arts in communication all right
00:03:02.780 welcome my name is emily mac i'm originally from new york and now i live in south florida my level
00:03:09.300 of education is high school uh age uh 30 30 okay what about you hi my name is Frankie um I'm
00:03:17.400 originally from Florida I moved to Maryland um I studied college there I studied history
00:03:22.480 I have a minor in sociology um I have my own podcast as well as I work in construction I
00:03:29.400 am marketing team uh age 31 and wait you you work in construction yes I'm on the marketing team yes
00:03:38.780 i'm the head of the marketing team which means it's just me really so
00:03:44.340 i don't know if i've heard somebody frame something like that i work in construction
00:03:49.080 dot dot dot on the marketing team so you have an office job yes okay so you know you know those
00:03:56.180 statistics you know those statistics where it's like 97 percent of people in the logging industry
00:04:01.880 are men i'm pretty sure it's a hundred percent but it's like they're somehow counting women
00:04:06.940 who work in the air conditioned office that like that uh mess up the statistics on that
00:04:16.000 uh okay so you're in the you do construction yes i have been in the field but that's as a project
00:04:23.720 manager which is an actual field work it's more of like measuring and taking pictures have you
00:04:27.720 ever worn a hard hat yes when i had to get on a roof as part of your job yes okay all right
00:04:35.640 what about you um i'm hannah i'm 33 i am originally from delaware but i live in utah now
00:04:41.040 um full-time mom i kind of skipped the college i did some college credits but i stuck with certs
00:04:46.560 like esthetician school microblading personal training okay all right what about you i'm joy
00:04:52.580 i'm 26 um i'm born and raised and still reside in texas just a high school diploma and uh what do
00:04:59.640 you do for work oh i'm a night auditor for marriott for a hotel yeah okay got it what about
00:05:05.120 you hi i'm anna i currently live in bentonville arkansas um i was in the marine so i kind of
00:05:10.160 traveled around i'm not from there but i reside there now um i up until january i worked at amazon
00:05:16.460 for seven years as a program manager but i was affected by the mass ai layoffs so i'm currently
00:05:22.680 in my entrepreneur life and um well also maybe finding a job i don't know kind of enjoying the
00:05:28.660 time off um and what was i'm 41 and you were in the marines i was in the marines uh officer or
00:05:36.900 enlisted enlisted oh and i have a master's degree in business and a bachelor's in business and a
00:05:42.660 bachelor's in communications and an associate's degree and i'm contemplating going back to school
00:05:47.420 for spanish for spanish yes okay do you need to go to school can't you just like i can teach you
00:05:54.520 and so my first language is in spanish in the uh what rank did you rise to in the marines
00:06:01.700 e4 how long were you uh in four years four years okay um were you deployed i was not
00:06:10.260 okay but i did live in japan for two years okay gotcha you were overseas yes and uh let's see
00:06:17.340 uh what was your job in the military you're gonna laugh so i was postal and our tagline
00:06:25.420 used to be no one goes postal like a u.s marine so i did the mail but everyone loved us and it
00:06:31.560 got me so many like hookups like hey like the when we would have the midnight curfews in okinawa
00:06:37.080 the cops would let me through you know what i mean like and if if i wanted some free food at
00:06:42.720 chow hall they would you know as long as I delivered their packages on time so okay and so
00:06:47.220 you had like a mail truck and you'd drive around or yeah and so people think like that's all you
00:06:52.820 do but you also still have to do marine stuff like I was still out in the field you still have
00:06:55.920 to shoot every marine's a rifleman but yeah yes I was I did the mail at the during the day drove
00:07:00.900 the mail trucks and all the other things so yep and uh I don't know if has anybody else been in
00:07:06.100 the military yeah um even if you're going to have a a job like that in the military you still have
00:07:13.780 to do like everyone across the different branches too right you have to do the basic training is
00:07:18.900 that correct correct yes interesting yeah i was wondering like is that anyways well don't have
00:07:28.220 an ask we're here just say it well i was thinking about uh when i was in i only women made up five
00:07:33.920 percent of the marine corps just as an fyi when i was do are women and i think it's changed recently
00:07:38.840 can can women uh see frontline combat um yes and they've been able to for a long time i mean
00:07:46.380 back during iraq and stuff they had women who served in the chow hall shooting weapons out of
00:07:53.260 the backs of trucks so yep it just changed a lot like my ex-husband was a green beret and then they
00:07:58.620 like now you can actually go through as a woman well and i was in from 05 to 09 so they've been
00:08:04.240 allowing you were 05 09 yeah and so they've been allowing women um in combat positions even if
00:08:09.820 they're not in combat roles they were out on the front if they want there was also a um program
00:08:14.160 called the lioness program and so that was women who would have to pat down the women who wanted
00:08:18.540 to come on base to make sure they didn't have any ieds strapped to them or anything so fun yeah
00:08:22.660 Nice. Yeah, no, I guess the reason I was kind of contemplating that the other day, I was thinking that because now I believe they changed the rules where there used to be, and I forgot the specific term, but it used to be like there were gendered physical requirements.
00:08:42.760 So it used to be, I think, they had lower, and this might be for the special forces, I believe.
00:08:49.560 They had to lower the requirements for the women.
00:08:53.320 Well, I think they have to lower the, across the entire military, the requirement, because, you know, you're going into boot camp, or you're just a fresh recruit.
00:09:03.100 You have to pass some physical test at the very forefront, correct?
00:09:07.340 Correct.
00:09:07.640 So women, I think there's like running, I think there's probably, I don't know the exact, like maybe push-ups, you have to maybe do pull-ups, I'm not entirely sure.
00:09:17.800 The requirements for women are lower.
00:09:20.200 So women can run slower, they can, I don't know if there's a weightlifting component, but they have to do less pull-ups, maybe there's sit-ups, they have to do less of those, there's less push-ups.
00:09:30.960 And I was thinking like...
00:09:36.960 Yeah. I was, I was thinking that, uh, maybe, I don't know if, if they're changing the rules
00:09:44.340 essentially to now women will not ever basically see, uh, now your base could get attacked. And
00:09:50.860 under that circumstance, I suppose a woman might see combat, but most of these women are not like
00:09:56.080 busting down doors to my understanding, uh, like doing target acquisition in Afghanistan,
00:10:01.840 at least when we were there some women were yes so women were on teams doing doing building uh
00:10:11.120 what what's the term when you're like um uh trying to enter like a building what was that
00:10:18.560 there's doing sweeps there's like a term for that i don't know i don't know if they were in
00:10:23.540 buildings but when i was at boot camp and our combat instructors were teaching us they did
00:10:27.900 mention being on the back of convoys and shooting weapons so when you're clearing a building like
00:10:32.860 clearing a building instead yeah and then also they were in convoys they're not door kickers is
00:10:37.440 what the chat and some reaching infiltrating something like that yeah yeah um and i'm just
00:10:42.420 going to speak for the ring corps i wasn't in any other branch of service but the ring corps is the
00:10:45.680 hardest as far as uh what height weight regulations it's the longest boot camp it's the hardest boot
00:10:51.680 camp we trained alongside we and the ring corps i think it's changed but when i was in we weren't
00:10:56.300 allowed to train with the men just kind of alongside with if the with the men if that
00:11:00.240 makes sense yeah and it wasn't until we graduated that we went to if you were in special forces you
00:11:05.860 went to a special force school school of infantry but if you weren't in special forces you went to
00:11:12.040 marine combat training and so then that's when we trained alongside with the men and um and we
00:11:18.220 learned everything that the men were learning the entire time but of course there's going to be no
00:11:25.000 denial men are stronger i believe just from my personal experience in the military women don't
00:11:31.600 belong on the front lines um but that doesn't mean women aren't on the front front lines and
00:11:35.680 they are and it's admirable and i and i know that i know a marine woman that her her helicopter
00:11:42.320 crashed she's pretty well known in the marine community but she lost her leg i mean so women
00:11:46.880 have seen combat for sure well i mean i suppose they do and maybe they're in a convoy and the
00:11:52.680 convoy gets ambushed or something but women do not see combat to the same degree uh as men do
00:11:59.060 and i i do wonder if it is the case like let's say in some scenario where we're just like
00:12:04.160 churning through men like we're we're in a ground war and the men are just they're dying and we have
00:12:09.860 to replace them there could conceivably be a situation where or a base say a base gets attacked
00:12:15.620 now look the united states military is the most powerful military in the world uh you know there
00:12:21.380 there is no other military that can really match up to the United States.
00:12:25.140 But let's say there was a military base that got attacked and basically all
00:12:29.420 the personnel on the base are basically, okay, go grab a gun.
00:12:32.860 You're going to defend it.
00:12:33.600 Even if you work in the kitchen, even if you work in the mail room,
00:12:36.120 like you do, it seems to me like if you would have to, let's say,
00:12:39.420 and then some of the frontline troops died and you're like, Oh shit,
00:12:42.200 we got to pull the people out of the kitchen there.
00:12:44.100 We got to give them a gun.
00:12:45.360 It seems like a waste of resources.
00:12:47.520 If we've made a determination that women are not as capable as men when it comes to being soldiers, and if there's even bars to even being in combat positions for most or even all women, it seems like a waste of resources to even put them through the basic training to learn how to shoot a rifle if there isn't a likelihood.
00:13:06.880 Well, it's not just a likelihood, because even a male who's just the chef, is he going to ever shoot a gun?
00:13:12.160 Maybe not.
00:13:13.100 But in the situation that we ever need to pull from these reserve troops that are the more in assistant roles,
00:13:20.540 it seems to me if we were to compare the men in the assistant roles to the women in the assistant roles,
00:13:24.900 the men are going to be way more effective soldiers.
00:13:28.400 So it just seems like a waste to put these women through like rifle training and combat training and basic training to begin with.
00:13:36.680 Okay, so let's talk about the history of women in the military.
00:13:39.180 When we started putting women in the military, it was because two relieved the men from these mundane postal jobs, you know, cook jobs, so they could go and fight the front lines.
00:13:48.840 So one could argue, like, when you go to war, they're still at a base, they're still at camp, and you still need postal, you still need the chow hall, you still need all these things.
00:13:57.140 So if a woman wants to serve, let him serve.
00:13:59.140 I do not agree with lowering the standards if a woman wants to be in the front lines, which I don't even agree to.
00:14:04.680 But if she does, I think they should meet the standards of what a man can do.
00:14:08.360 But we all know physically men are stronger than women, right?
00:14:12.500 So, but I do think that there's a purpose because I like the idea of freeing the men
00:14:19.040 so that they can go and do that.
00:14:20.500 So, but we still need to be in shape.
00:14:22.960 Like we can't have fat people serving in the military.
00:14:25.520 So even if a woman does pass the physical minimum requirements that the men also pass,
00:14:30.880 you also have to realize that they'll get their period once a month and they're basically useless.
00:14:34.300 so that's also a big issue but also it extends beyond their physical capability and also their
00:14:38.620 mental capability like have you ever been to a restaurant and seen like a male waiter cry now
00:14:42.540 female waitresses bro they're breaking down like oh my god it's so busy what happens when a woman's
00:14:46.440 getting shot at no i think they just break down yeah so even if they pass let's talk about the
00:14:50.300 men too it's like it's an instinct for a man to want to run after a woman and protect and save
00:14:54.960 yeah and also the other part of it is like if a woman's in the military she's on a convoy or
00:14:58.280 whatever they they capture her and they're like hey we're gonna rape your female uh you know um
00:15:03.100 fellow soldier in front of you we're gonna peel your eyes open we're gonna rape her in front of
00:15:07.540 you spill all the secrets any man would spill that i probably would even if it would cause
00:15:11.880 america to fall i would spill those secrets i can't watch that i can't yeah i would not want
00:15:16.400 to see that happen but if they said hey we're gonna kill your fellow soldier chat or whatever
00:15:20.280 i'd be like bro i'm not giving you the secrets right right they're like we're gonna rape this
00:15:23.320 woman in front of you i'd be like bro take it right so that's also another issue they can use
00:15:26.760 it as a as a way to um demoralize not demoralize well and i've had friends get pregnant over there
00:15:33.400 and and have to come back so they send that send them over and they're pregnant and guess what they
00:15:38.900 have to go back so um i agree you know in a sense there but how do they get pregnant i don't know
00:15:45.920 the birds but i still have something to say what do you mean that women are useless when they're
00:15:51.200 in their period well they're not useless periods every month i mean they're not useless but they're
00:15:56.280 obviously less effective at being i don't think so i mean i know so i'm as capable as any other
00:16:01.440 day i work in a kitchen i used to be a servant i'm a business owner i mean i can do the same
00:16:06.440 thing as my chef does why do you want to give me an fyi so i feel like that's very okay can you do
00:16:11.120 like can you do like a 10 mile run in like an hour well can you do that i have if i have the
00:16:15.780 training for that probably yes but again like i probably can't do it either i feel like that
00:16:19.360 comment was very out of place saying that we're useless when when we are on their well not not
00:16:23.940 entirely useless but like you're not going to be as good okay okay you know what i mean by useless
00:16:28.220 obviously you're not useless but like for the amount of food that you have to eat for all the
00:16:31.920 logistics where people have to supply stuff to you through the supply chain in the military
00:16:34.700 it's not worth having you out in the middle east if you're going to be like a soldier that's halfway
00:16:37.940 useless for five days out of a month so except you're not halfway loose i just think that we
00:16:43.000 can still do everything i mean nowadays there's tampons a lot of things that you can put up but
00:16:48.560 also you have to keep in mind the mental capability of women it's not meant to deal with stress
00:16:51.660 naturally well i also want to point out too that a lot of us don't get our periods while in the
00:16:55.900 especially during boot camp and stuff if you're physically active and if you're not eating as
00:17:00.000 much as you're out putting with physical activity we don't get periods so a lot of women who are
00:17:04.600 on their periods so but i like i said to an extent like so my job i was postal and so they used to
00:17:12.260 put the special forces guys who came back really messed up from war in our unit and these men would
00:17:19.040 pour everything that they witnessed out to me bawling like grown-ass men that I still think
00:17:24.960 about these stories to this day of the things that they witnessed and I as a mother just can't
00:17:30.820 even imagine and fathom witnessing that as a woman like and how traumatized and they are
00:17:35.680 traumatized they come back traumatized and their men are supposed to be mentally more yeah I do
00:17:40.160 have to move it on okay age or intro Angelica 29 um I studied English psychology math and computer
00:17:48.800 science and i'm an influencer and i flew in from dc you're from dc okay uh go ahead yeah my name
00:17:55.900 is riley nemy i'm 21 years old i went to high school for six months and i'm currently the
00:18:01.480 owner of a business that does stuff with political campaigns and i also do political content online
00:18:05.520 and do campus debates just like charlie kirk did all right uh welcome everybody so uh really quick
00:18:12.660 i'll do the uh intro i need to do the introduction guys so uh actually first we do have a tts that
00:18:19.280 came through i just sorry uh desert jorge for the delay on this i had to get through the intros
00:18:24.220 donated two hundred dollars thank you man bricks and happy news this week with sophie rain and your
00:18:30.340 first child ah yes don't forget the dna test and no state involved with marriage if those work
00:18:36.980 the two of you will live happily ever after raising your seven sons yep yeah uh really quick
00:18:43.940 on the on the x there nathan can you on my personal ex you're gonna have to scroll down to
00:18:48.680 april 1st post so i on april 1st i uh i posted and people got kind of bent out of shape about it
00:18:55.860 i posted a across social media that um me and sophie rain the infamous only fans creator
00:19:03.180 who I guess makes 50 million dollars a year out earns LeBron James uh that I impregnated her and
00:19:10.120 we're expecting a child um and people kind of somehow believed this AI photo I thought it was
00:19:17.040 a pretty obvious uh joke do you have it did you find it uh go ahead pull up the photo uh so
00:19:24.800 now this is also me when I was like 40 pounds lighter too uh but it was just like AI or whatever
00:19:32.800 so scroll back up
00:19:34.860 so yeah I did impregnate Sophie Rain
00:19:36.680 we're having a baby blah blah blah
00:19:38.800 I mean at least they made you 40 pounds lighter
00:19:40.680 that's nice
00:19:41.280 that was nice of them
00:19:42.320 nice of the AI
00:19:43.980 I saw that and I was like that's not Brian
00:19:46.780 that is like a younger
00:19:48.660 more trim version of me
00:19:51.260 but yeah people are losing their mind
00:19:53.320 about it I don't know I thought it was funny
00:19:54.740 it was April 1st
00:19:55.560 thank you thank you
00:19:57.760 demon spawned on the way
00:19:59.760 But thank you for your TTS, Desert Jorge.
00:20:03.600 I very much appreciate it.
00:20:04.580 Sorry for the delay on that.
00:20:05.880 You sent it right as the show started.
00:20:08.180 Oh, my goodness.
00:20:09.700 And just speaking of it.
00:20:12.720 Thank you, man.
00:20:13.940 Robert Tanner donated $1,000.
00:20:16.360 Yo, you're a legend.
00:20:17.180 W's in the chat for him.
00:20:18.480 Been a while.
00:20:19.740 As you know, long-time supporter.
00:20:22.060 Thank you, man.
00:20:22.380 Let's check in soon.
00:20:24.080 Also, why are the Germans not looking at women for the current military law?
00:20:28.240 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:29.000 It may be current to the convo now for now.
00:20:31.660 Thank you, Robert Tanner.
00:20:33.280 First off, thank you for the massive TTS.
00:20:35.740 We're going to do champagne pop here.
00:20:37.340 We're going to maybe wait until we're done with the intros to do the champagne pop.
00:20:41.500 But, yeah, actually pull that up really quick.
00:20:44.220 So go back to my ex.
00:20:46.180 And then this was, gee, when did I post this?
00:20:51.980 There's a post about, like, Germany's preparing to wage war.
00:20:56.240 i think it was like from two days ago or something uh you're gonna have to scroll up to find it it
00:21:03.100 i'm trying to think if there's a photo it's just a photo of text basically uh it's on the x it's
00:21:13.060 more recent than the sophie rain only uh april fool's thing do you have it it is on the x you
00:21:20.000 just should be scrolling probably scrolling up you'll find it i believe i posted it two days
00:21:24.660 ago. I think that should be either April 3rd, April 2nd. Do you have it? It's in reference to
00:21:32.440 the like mandatory you have to give the German government notice if you're leaving. That is
00:21:37.560 correct. Yeah, so basically Germany passed this new law where only for men, only for men. I think
00:21:46.020 if you're between the ages of 17 and 45, if you're planning to leave Germany for more than three
00:21:52.280 months, you need to check in. I think you actually have to, not just check in, you have to get
00:21:57.460 permission from the Bundeswehr, which is like the, I don't know what the translation for that is,
00:22:03.960 the German military essentially. Do you have it? Pull it up please. That's from the Berliner
00:22:10.840 Zeitung. I'm not sure if I'm, any German speakers here? No? Okay. New conscription rule. Young men
00:22:16.820 are no longer allowed to leave germany without permission uh so that's uh ages 17 and 45 must
00:22:23.780 obtain permission if they intend to leave germany for more than three months they need to obtain
00:22:28.040 this permission from the german armed forces that's that male that's the male privilege
00:22:35.060 female oppression that we're always talking about so germany seems to be gearing up for war
00:22:40.300 uh so liquidate your crypto i'm just kidding uh but uh thank you robert tanner for the big
00:22:47.220 thousand dollar tts can we get some w's in the chat for robert tanner that's a massive
00:22:50.860 uh very generous contribution for him thank you man really appreciate it let me write a note here
00:22:56.000 that we do need to do a champagne pop i'm going to delay it just a little bit so we can get through
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00:25:26.480 also we got merch shop.whatever.com these are premium t-shirts premium hoodies super comfortable
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00:25:43.500 i don't know you've ever bought some merch some t-shirt and it's just dog shit it's fucking made
00:25:49.000 out of cardboard it's uncomfortable your nipples are all chafed your nipples start bleeding after
00:25:54.220 wearing a t-shirt for three minutes because it's made out of chinese cardboard and children or
00:25:59.300 something i don't know who knows what they're fucking doing with their t-shirt blanks over
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00:26:09.560 the tag on this maybe it's made in china but uh the most premium chinese sweatshop labor so um
00:26:17.720 let's see what else uh hey can i have a suggestion for the swag i noticed the i love big labia maybe
00:26:23.800 we could get an I love big dick in there.
00:26:25.880 What do you think?
00:26:30.320 That was
00:26:30.920 good, but the majority
00:26:34.060 of my audience is men, and
00:26:35.340 as far as I know, they're not homosexuals.
00:26:38.140 Fair enough, fair enough.
00:26:40.220 But maybe for the,
00:26:42.080 I mean, the
00:26:43.380 mirror would not
00:26:45.820 even be, because I think there's a
00:26:47.680 the large labia thing,
00:26:50.840 I would have to say
00:26:51.840 I heart, like, micropenises
00:26:53.620 or, like, yeah, it's a negative.
00:26:55.640 I don't find it to be a negative, but most men kind of do.
00:27:02.000 I think there's a lot of women that would have interest in this swag, just saying.
00:27:07.940 Yeah, but it doesn't hit the same, you know.
00:27:11.700 The space, shout out the space for the gifted five whatever memberships.
00:27:17.460 Roxy, thank you for the gifted one.
00:27:19.340 And Robert Tanner with the big gifted 50 whatever memberships.
00:27:22.700 you're you are a legend sir thank you robert tanner thank you very much man fucking legend
00:27:28.020 uh appreciate the uh the the big gifted 50 fuck guys do we need he did a champagne pop he gifted
00:27:35.700 50 whatever memberships this guy's a fucking legend fucking legend thank you robert tanner
00:27:40.380 uh we need a i wish we there was like vip on youtube chat on twitch you can vip somebody but
00:27:47.300 Unfortunately, yeah.
00:27:49.140 So, okay.
00:27:49.540 Finishing up the intro here.
00:27:51.620 Follow us on Instagram.
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00:27:55.920 And just hide the stream yard thing.
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00:28:09.880 Also, I guess follow my cat, April.
00:28:14.820 And then a quick public service announcement.
00:28:18.900 I'm the founder of, yeah, you can pull it up on the stream yard too.
00:28:24.060 I'm the founder of the nonprofit and grassroots movement, Big Labia Matter, or BLM for short.
00:28:29.940 Of course.
00:28:31.800 Because all labia can't matter until Big Labia Matter.
00:28:34.920 As someone who only dates women with large labia, this is kind of important for me.
00:28:39.320 10,000 labiaplasties a year in the USA.
00:28:41.440 Absolute fucking tragedy.
00:28:42.540 uh you know that we're at war with iran we just fucking regime changed venezuela there's shit in
00:28:49.860 the middle east there's fucking ukraine immigration inflation recession probably on the way uh what
00:28:56.840 fucking the price of food is fucking dog shit there that hamburger was 30 the other day what
00:29:01.000 the fuck um absolutely ridiculous but you know what that shit's a distraction 10 000 labiaplasties
00:29:07.400 you're in the u.s absolute fucking tragedy can i add to that i'm one of those statistics
00:29:12.420 you got a you had you had a labiaplasty i did did the rabbi fucking i should kick you off the show
00:29:19.180 did the rabbi uh lick off the blood when it was over i'm catholic so okay good i used to work for
00:29:26.480 a certain like couple plastic surgeons and they are a lot of times it's functional like women
00:29:30.600 will have like irritation and stuff so it's not can i ask why like do you have any kids i have
00:29:36.120 three and yeah kid it just like you said it's just for irritating it was literally like an
00:29:40.100 irritation and then there was during sex too it was not like that you know like oh it looks ugly
00:29:44.880 type well i mean that's a nice perk but it wasn't like it was covered by insurance for a medical
00:29:50.060 i mean i don't understand this whole like it's uncomfortable it gets in the way men have balls
00:29:55.580 and penises like we seem we don't fucking chop our shit off it and it's definitely in the way
00:30:00.760 Well, they actually do.
00:30:02.080 Can we talk about why it was even approved?
00:30:07.040 Circumcision is fucking retarded, first off.
00:30:09.020 But the penis is still there.
00:30:11.440 Like, the balls are still there in the way.
00:30:14.060 And, like, balls and penis hang, unless you've got world record labia,
00:30:18.540 are in the way more and hang more.
00:30:21.060 Yeah, but if you have the means.
00:30:22.620 The means?
00:30:23.460 Some of the women that come in, they have the means to get it fixed.
00:30:26.140 Why would they not?
00:30:26.940 I've seen some.
00:30:27.940 There's nothing to fix.
00:30:28.680 It's beautiful as is.
00:30:29.660 Fuck that shit.
00:30:30.280 I've seen some where I'm like, I support this decision.
00:30:32.980 No, fuck that.
00:30:33.300 The bigger, the better.
00:30:34.400 Can I tell you how it was even, because my health insurance covered it, and can I tell
00:30:37.900 you why?
00:30:38.200 It wasn't because it bothered me.
00:30:39.440 Like, you would think that that's why health insurance would bother you.
00:30:41.940 Like, you have issues walking, running, whatever.
00:30:44.120 No, it was because I couldn't have sex with my husband, and that's why they covered it.
00:30:47.680 Where do you get your health insurance from?
00:30:49.280 This was like 10, no, this was like 15 years ago.
00:30:52.440 But how do you go to the doctor and tell them, oh, like, I cannot have sex because of my
00:30:55.920 big little baby?
00:30:56.500 No, the doctor said, if you want this covered by your health insurance, that's what we're
00:30:59.940 to put it down don't believe it i swear you couldn't have sex that that wasn't the actual
00:31:05.340 reason but that's what the doctor wanted the doctor was trying to help me get it covered
00:31:08.880 through my house oh wait wait hold on okay so you committed insurance fraud and you're saying
00:31:12.600 that on a live podcast it's probably similar to like a breast reduction where you go to a doctor
00:31:16.500 you can complain enough to where they're going well it did bother it did bother me during sex
00:31:20.660 but i'm not having sex 24 7 i'm walking i'm running i'm doing wait why didn't wait why didn't
00:31:25.020 you lead with, okay, here was your framing. Well, I couldn't have sex with my husband. That was your
00:31:31.760 lead in framing. And then only after do you disclose, oh, my doctor, look, this is something
00:31:38.520 that happens with any sort of prescription. They used to do this with marijuana. You go to the
00:31:43.940 doctor, at least when it was illegal, the doctor would be like, tell me you have migraines. Tell
00:31:49.900 me that you have glaucoma or some bullshit. So they could write a fucking prescription. But it's
00:31:54.740 like you should have led with well my i don't even understand why you would forward that
00:31:59.340 because right now we're having an argument about the merits of this procedure and you just and
00:32:05.860 you're like well i can have sex with my husband but i actually could my doctor well i could it
00:32:09.680 just wasn't comfortable is what i'm saying like who wants to have sex when you're uncomfortable
00:32:12.680 so it was physically uncomfortable yeah yep it was just slapping around it gets sucked in with
00:32:19.540 Did your surgery hurt?
00:32:22.260 Did that hurt?
00:32:23.020 What was the recovery time?
00:32:24.320 Girl, I gave birth to 10-pound babies, so no.
00:32:26.580 Where did your health insurance come from?
00:32:28.220 Was it taxpayer-funded?
00:32:30.380 No, no, no.
00:32:31.520 I've never, ever been on any sort of assistance or anything.
00:32:33.940 But I mean, like, if your husband works for the government or...
00:32:36.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:36.300 At the time, I'm not married anymore, but when I was married,
00:32:38.300 he worked for the jail in Washington State at the time we were living.
00:32:41.820 So he worked for the government?
00:32:43.760 Well, he got benefits that we paid into, just like any other job.
00:32:46.860 It was a state job.
00:32:47.880 Yeah, but he paid into it with his paycheck from the government.
00:32:51.340 So it's a taxpayer-funded labiaplasty.
00:32:53.340 How is that taxpayer?
00:32:54.500 How is that taxpayer?
00:32:57.000 He paid his health insurance.
00:32:58.740 I paid my health insurance.
00:33:00.040 He gets his money from the government, and the government overpays their employees.
00:33:02.720 But he works for the government.
00:33:03.740 He's not just sitting on his ass.
00:33:04.980 He's working for the government.
00:33:06.060 No, I mean, working.
00:33:07.040 He's putting in his time.
00:33:07.620 Who works for the government?
00:33:08.820 Like, seriously.
00:33:09.920 On a side note, though.
00:33:10.840 He did, and he worked like 60 hours a week, and he paid for it.
00:33:13.780 I just wonder how we got.
00:33:15.820 Like, I'm just trying to get through the introduction.
00:33:18.620 Let me just chime in on the labia thing.
00:33:23.100 But, oh, also really quick.
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00:34:02.280 Delaware area code.
00:34:03.840 Delaware?
00:34:04.380 It's Delaware's area code.
00:34:05.560 Delaware.
00:34:06.300 Yo, shout out Delaware.
00:34:07.400 It goes down in Delaware.
00:34:09.820 It's so funny.
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00:35:14.320 discord.gg slash whatever okay sorry that was a very long-winded introduction uh now we're gonna
00:35:21.400 get right back to the show and then momentarily do the champagne pop but uh going around the table
00:35:27.740 what's your current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and what's
00:35:32.460 the longest relationship status or what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting
00:35:37.480 with you go ahead um i'm single and i've never been in a relationship all right nothing nothing
00:35:43.660 no relationship i mean you've been at ucsb now you you started in what september i started in
00:35:48.600 september september october november december january february march it's not my priority
00:35:54.160 nope no guys in the picture no didn't you have like a crush or something uh he's maybe like
00:36:00.460 texting someone but okay nothing right now nothing all right uh is your roommate just like
00:36:07.340 my roommates i'm in a triple triple yeah that sucks uh it's chill i love my roommates do you
00:36:14.600 get kicked out all the time to let your roommates smash frat bros no no no no no we're we don't do
00:36:20.240 anything you don't do that okay all right uh what about you i'm married and i think this is my
00:36:26.260 longest. Go ahead. This is my longest relationship. I've been married for about 10 years. 10 years.
00:36:32.080 Okay. And married for 10 together for how long? Close to 11 years. 11 years. Okay. Correct. All
00:36:44.460 right. Have you been married before? Well, not married, but I was living with, you know,
00:36:49.100 with other guys, but I wasn't married. You've had other relationships. Correct. Were you engaged
00:36:53.120 to other men no any kids i have two kids two girls from this marriage uh yes okay
00:37:00.340 all right what about you um i am supers please hold on hold on get the supers please
00:37:08.200 uh okay what the fuck are some of these fucking retarded hold on uh rachel thank you for the
00:37:17.200 membership uh shout out pasty for the super thank you man um okay uh i am married um and
00:37:25.700 i guess i've only been in three relationships and all three of them were three years
00:37:29.280 sorry how long you've been married three years you said uh well i've been married for two
00:37:36.620 you've been married for two and a half two and a half okay uh all right then you have a kid
00:37:46.060 One kid?
00:37:47.060 From your current marriage?
00:37:48.960 Yes.
00:37:49.440 Okay.
00:37:50.040 What about you?
00:37:51.340 I'm in a relationship.
00:37:53.280 My longest relationship was two years, and it was a previous one.
00:37:58.840 Okay.
00:37:59.420 Longest relationship, two years?
00:38:01.120 Yeah.
00:38:03.460 How long is your current relationship?
00:38:06.420 Ten months.
00:38:07.380 Ten months.
00:38:08.080 Okay.
00:38:10.780 Orientation?
00:38:12.660 Orientation?
00:38:13.600 Sexual orientation.
00:38:14.720 Straight by?
00:38:15.440 Straight. Okay. What about you? I am married. I've been married for almost three years.
00:38:22.800 Longest relationship. I was married once before for 12 years. We were together for 14.
00:38:32.300 Okay. Got it. What about you? I'm engaged. This would be my longest relationship. We've been
00:38:37.960 together for three years. As of next week, I actually met him on his birthday. So I always
00:38:42.640 joke that i'm the best birthday present he'll ever get all right what about you um i'm in a
00:38:48.420 relationship now been in a relationship for three years my longest relationship was like
00:38:53.000 seven or eight years any kids yes i have a nine-year-old that's from the seven year
00:38:59.400 yep uh were you married no ever married nope does he pay you child support yep what's the
00:39:06.420 custody arrangement um like shared custody shared custody um uh shared custody okay
00:39:15.340 and he pays you child it's 50 50 yeah how much does he pay you in child support i'm not willing
00:39:22.380 to answer that is it a lot or a little um just not willing to answer it is he black
00:39:29.840 why would you ask that
00:39:31.940 of course you spilled the water
00:39:34.740 here Tiffany paper towels please
00:39:38.820 please be paying attention
00:39:40.280 not you
00:39:42.880 guys
00:39:44.500 come on
00:39:46.500 I shouldn't
00:39:48.400 unprompted
00:39:49.820 please
00:39:51.240 why do I need to ask
00:39:54.220 alright
00:39:59.840 Continue, please.
00:40:04.740 Yeah, next person, please.
00:40:07.660 I was married for eight years.
00:40:09.700 I'm single.
00:40:10.600 My last serious relationship was about a year and a half ago, and I have two kids.
00:40:15.980 Sorry, could you repeat that?
00:40:17.940 Yeah, I was married for eight years.
00:40:20.060 Are you single currently?
00:40:21.100 Yes.
00:40:21.560 Okay.
00:40:21.760 I had two kids during that marriage, and my last serious relationship was about a year and a half ago.
00:40:26.960 So two kids from the one marriage, is that correct?
00:40:29.180 Yep.
00:40:29.600 Okay. Have you been married any other times?
00:40:32.680 No, just once.
00:40:34.900 Okay. And why did you guys break up?
00:40:40.400 Substance abuse.
00:40:41.980 On your part or his?
00:40:43.360 His part.
00:40:44.440 What was the drug of choice?
00:40:47.680 I'm not going to talk about that kind of stuff for him on here.
00:40:50.860 Okay. You initiated the divorce?
00:40:53.740 Yes.
00:40:54.440 How long ago was this?
00:40:56.340 Four and a half, five years ago. I moved to Utah.
00:40:59.080 He's still in Nashville.
00:41:02.060 Okay.
00:41:07.740 Does he pay you child support?
00:41:10.620 That's an ongoing battle.
00:41:12.540 If I'm lucky, if I get anything.
00:41:14.760 I haven't been paid alimony in over two years.
00:41:17.940 I'm lucky if I get child support, so.
00:41:20.540 Okay, you haven't been.
00:41:22.780 Oh, wait, hold on.
00:41:24.180 Okay, so, wait.
00:41:26.120 When did you divorce?
00:41:28.760 I, like, separated about almost five years ago, and the divorce took about a year and a half.
00:41:37.480 Okay.
00:41:40.340 So, okay, you've been, sorry, guys, there's a fucking bus or something passing by.
00:41:46.120 Okay, five years ago, you were married for eight years.
00:41:52.820 you're currently in an unresolved both a custody dispute and then they're still making
00:42:01.180 determinations no it's not it's not a custody dispute he just I have them like throughout
00:42:06.460 the school year and then they go out to Nashville for a few weeks in the summer
00:42:09.340 and they're right there right now because it's spring break so you have primary custody or full
00:42:14.720 custody yes primary okay so is he paying you alimony currently no but uh he's supposed to by
00:42:24.300 law he's not though that's what okay so you're currently in a legal uh um i haven't taken him
00:42:32.620 back to court i could but i haven't well so when you say he was supposed to be paying you alimony
00:42:38.560 uh are you saying just he should be like it's like was it was it court ordered yes yes so there
00:42:47.180 was already uh through the process of the divorce there's already uh legal court action instructing
00:42:54.440 him to pay out money and has he expressed a reason why he's not paying is it willful or
00:42:59.800 can he not afford it i i'm assuming he can't afford it i honestly it's one of those things
00:43:05.680 Like, I just don't really like to ask a whole lot of questions because it really stressed me out for a long time.
00:43:10.440 And I kind of don't want to give any more of my energy towards that, if that makes sense.
00:43:15.580 Okay.
00:43:17.660 I see.
00:43:18.660 Okay.
00:43:19.460 And then is he paying you child support?
00:43:23.060 No.
00:43:23.840 It goes through, like, this weird card in Utah.
00:43:26.560 You can go through ORS.
00:43:28.500 And so he'll load it onto there.
00:43:31.520 but I mean one time my I literally got a check I think it was for $37.09 so okay all right um yeah
00:43:40.780 okay uh okay what about you newly single how newly six months six or seven months uh it was
00:43:52.880 two and a half years is that your longest relationship it's my only relationship
00:43:57.660 Only relationship.
00:43:58.760 Okay.
00:43:59.160 Who broke up with who?
00:44:02.080 I broke up with him, but then I wanted him back like five seconds later.
00:44:08.060 And then he was like, no.
00:44:10.680 I'd be like that.
00:44:13.220 You broke up with him?
00:44:14.800 Yeah.
00:44:15.640 I was upset.
00:44:16.680 About what?
00:44:17.660 We were arguing.
00:44:18.580 I don't even know what about.
00:44:19.880 It was months ago.
00:44:20.800 Have you done that before?
00:44:21.720 Was it on again, off again?
00:44:22.900 Yeah.
00:44:23.160 so you would break up with him
00:44:26.060 and then get
00:44:27.660 not really like mean it though
00:44:29.380 just like kind of in the moment like
00:44:31.340 I don't want to be with you don't fucking call me
00:44:34.180 and then like I expect him to call me
00:44:36.840 yeah
00:44:37.400 so he broke up with you
00:44:38.600 yeah he's like fuck no
00:44:39.960 so you were bluffing
00:44:41.900 I was bluffing
00:44:43.760 like I didn't shit it shocked me
00:44:46.320 I was like what the hell
00:44:47.540 so okay the bluff failed
00:44:50.140 because I think here's what you're trying to do
00:44:52.360 movie about he was you were upset whether warranted or not and you were trying to either
00:44:57.560 express your dissatisfaction or correct something that you perceive or in actuality he was doing
00:45:04.760 wrong yeah and i just like want it to be in control okay and then so this was essentially
00:45:11.740 a manipulation tactic to attempt to get him to change or do something that's really it okay
00:45:18.660 And then, but when it didn't work, did you try to reconcile, try to get back together or?
00:45:24.360 Yeah.
00:45:24.840 And then he was like, nope, I'm done.
00:45:26.240 Yeah.
00:45:26.700 Okay.
00:45:27.720 Yeah.
00:45:28.120 I think this is a dangerous tactic, although it's sometimes, especially for perhaps men
00:45:33.380 who are lacking in experience when it comes to dating women.
00:45:36.340 And by the way, just to be clear, men can do this too.
00:45:38.760 Men can bluff the breakup and then the woman's like, okay.
00:45:42.400 So then you either have to like tuck your tail and take the L and be like, oh, I didn't
00:45:48.000 mean it.
00:45:48.660 let's make it work or you just gotta
00:45:51.320 I mean or it's just
00:45:53.340 over I guess but
00:45:54.300 I do think it is a tactic
00:45:57.300 that perhaps women sometimes employ
00:45:59.160 most more than
00:46:01.160 men the bluff
00:46:03.320 breakup I think look if you're
00:46:05.340 having an issue in a relationship
00:46:06.980 you can be upset about it
00:46:09.240 and you can talk it over but I think
00:46:11.280 and this is especially
00:46:12.640 an issue in marriages when you bluff the
00:46:15.100 divorce but bluffing the breakup
00:46:17.220 or the divorce is you should mean it is i guess what i'm trying to say if if you're gonna suggest
00:46:23.120 a breakup like you have to actually mean it it can't be a bluff it's also very manipulative
00:46:27.500 women will do this we're like oh i don't know i'm so upset we should uh i think we should break up
00:46:34.200 and then you're like okay and then they're just like i don't know i i don't believe in the like
00:46:40.940 on again off again thing if if you want to broach a breakup it's over like don't ever come to me
00:46:48.080 threatening a breakup unless you fucking mean it because then it's just like okay well i think if
00:46:54.620 you truly love somebody you couldn't do that to them well someone relationship i think it's very
00:46:59.880 toxic it is toxic we don't do that to each other yeah you should look if you have an issue if you
00:47:05.240 have an issue you can deal with it like address the issue but using using it as a manipulation
00:47:10.920 tool or leverage to try to get what you want uh i don't think it's effective i think especially
00:47:16.880 in a marriage like you don't you don't ever say the word divorce like i'm just get the fucking
00:47:23.620 divorce like okay we have an issue we're gonna work it out uh but don't use i don't think you
00:47:30.940 should use uh divorce threat as i feel like it's like gambling you should be like willing to lose
00:47:36.100 if you do do it yeah true i think if i'm dating someone and they threaten the relationship i'm
00:47:41.020 gonna walk away because i can't live with that type of anxiety or stress well not only that i
00:47:44.900 don't think you truly are in love with me if you could do that true the thing is that when it comes
00:47:48.460 to a marriage like threatening divorce is a whole other level but if you're in a relationship that's
00:47:52.780 not how women break up like they don't just say i'm gonna break up with you right now they break
00:47:56.580 up quietly and slowly and they plan to break up when they threaten it it's kind of one of those
00:48:03.540 things where it's just don't take her seriously she's just speaking out of her emotions yeah
00:48:07.180 and if you do it more than once that's what it ends up becoming anyway what you're just saying
00:48:12.100 the marriage is totally different i mean exactly i've been married for a long time and believe me
00:48:16.840 we have had fights where i'm almost done with him or he's done with me but you know to say divorce
00:48:22.480 i think that's another level you know we can get to the point and we don't talk to each other for
00:48:26.680 days or weeks you know and you know since that we own businesses together um you know we kind of
00:48:33.260 talk only about business like okay talk to me about the business but don't talk to me about
00:48:36.880 personal stuff but it's totally different yes when you're married i mean and i feel like you
00:48:42.820 know when you're in a relationship because i used to be in relationships before uh yes i will try
00:48:47.720 to never oh my guys i will try i'm gonna leave you i'm gonna leave your ass i'm gonna i'm gonna
00:48:52.200 Like she said, I used to do that, you know.
00:48:54.520 But since I got married, I think, yeah, I think it's not like I'm not toxic.
00:48:58.660 I'm toxic as hell.
00:48:59.700 Toxica.
00:49:00.680 I'm toxic as hell.
00:49:02.040 Okay.
00:49:03.000 Sorry, what about you?
00:49:04.980 I'm sorry, what's the question?
00:49:06.440 Your relationship status?
00:49:07.920 Oh, I'm single.
00:49:08.940 The longest relationship I've been in, it was six and a half years with the father of my kids.
00:49:14.300 How long have you been single for?
00:49:18.100 I've, like, on and off the last five years.
00:49:20.220 I'll go on dates and stuff, but I went on a sabbatical for like three years and recently
00:49:24.600 got off of it where I just wasn't dating at all or talking to men or anything at all.
00:49:29.780 Right.
00:49:30.360 Wait, just clarification, you've been married once or twice?
00:49:34.040 Once.
00:49:34.460 One time.
00:49:35.080 And you have how many kids?
00:49:36.480 Three.
00:49:37.160 Three kids, all from the same men?
00:49:39.280 My two older ones have the same father, and then I have a younger one that has a different
00:49:44.280 father.
00:49:44.900 So I have a 19-year-old, a 15-year-old, and a four-year-old, almost four-year-old.
00:49:49.200 four-year-old okay and you said there's a three-year period of celibacy
00:49:53.060 it was celibacy is that correct yes like I didn't even hug or shake hands or kiss nothing I was not
00:50:01.100 out looking for three years for three years and when was that 2021 to 2024 I believe wait 20
00:50:12.700 and you have a four-year-old so the period of celibacy started while you were pregnant is that
00:50:18.300 yeah okay I kind of just like freaked out and and did like something that was never meant to be
00:50:26.780 but he's a good dad and we have like a good co-parenting relation I love his wife wait
00:50:30.500 what do you mean you what was the thing you did that you never meant to do what do you mean
00:50:35.520 didn't you just didn't those words just come out of your mouth I just it's not like we planned the
00:50:41.380 baby like I kind of just freaked out and left like I was more of the man in the situation than
00:50:45.280 he was like he was like oh let's try to work this out let's try to be together and i was like holy
00:50:50.440 shit like i'm starting if you put yourself like i had a 15 year old at the time and then you know
00:50:54.440 like a 12 year old and i'm like what the fuck did i just do to my life i'm obviously in a different
00:50:59.120 place now with that and we're obsessed why didn't you just abort or do you not believe in that i i
00:51:03.560 don't believe in abortion okay hey just because her baby's half black she should not have an
00:51:08.140 abortion okay okay for the record he's not half black wow wait so um but we get along like i said
00:51:16.100 i love his wife she's amazing um his and his dad is a really good dad and so we co-parent amicably
00:51:23.240 okay um so how long were you dating the guy not very long i'm not going to delve into that
00:51:31.520 well so um was it like a one-night stand or something that you got pregnant off of or
00:51:38.140 I'm not going to delve into the information.
00:51:40.040 It's a dating discussion podcast.
00:51:42.100 So we talked for a few weeks, and then, yes, we hooked up, and I had him.
00:51:46.660 So, yeah.
00:51:47.520 And he was, like, all in wanting to have this relationship with me,
00:51:50.500 and I was like, holy fucking shit, you know?
00:51:53.340 Like, what the hell did I just do?
00:51:56.120 And no, I do not collect child support from either father.
00:51:59.180 I don't need it.
00:51:59.820 And I believe both fathers are very present in my children's life,
00:52:03.540 and I believe child support is for absent fathers, not present fathers.
00:52:08.140 um so i don't collect any sort of child support i take care of my kids on my own okay but i mean
00:52:14.060 there's certainly some financial uh components of raising a child do they contribute in some ways
00:52:20.780 yeah like my ex bought ours or buys the car like my uh older two their their dad makes
00:52:26.460 good money so he buys them cars and takes them on trips and you know like yes they both contribute
00:52:31.420 that way okay but they're not paying they don't give you money directly in fact i signed my older
00:52:37.260 my husband my ex-husband I signed off on him having to give it to me he used to give it to
00:52:41.440 me I used to have a situation similar to Hannah's where we lived in two different states and that's
00:52:45.660 when I took it because I was living in a different state but once I moved like when they got a little
00:52:49.880 older I just was like they need to be near their father you know a boy needs their father boys need
00:52:53.740 their father so I moved near them and then once that happened I signed off on child support okay
00:52:59.460 yeah um so okay you were married the the two other children are from ex-husband your ex-husband yeah
00:53:05.980 and he doesn't pay you alimony nope nope okay if i ever needed anything what he would be there but
00:53:12.860 i just don't like i yeah i just feel like he's a good father he's there not can you put the cup
00:53:17.220 on the table please um okay so uh hold on you're you're uh did you like this guy the most recent
00:53:28.760 guy who you have a kid with like was this you hooked up one time and got pregnant yes one and
00:53:35.560 done i was on a business trip missed my period we were about ready to go to a um the condom broke
00:53:41.240 we were about ready to go to a winery that day and i was like why is my period late and so i was
00:53:46.520 like before we go to this winery i should probably and i half ass took it like this is i'm not and i
00:53:52.540 was immediately like he and i still connect like we were still talking and stuff like that
00:53:56.300 i moved to arkansas from california and at the time arkansas was is medically illegal and getting
00:54:03.000 weed was so he was kind of like my weed plug so yeah and that's history now okay um all right i
00:54:12.900 see hold on we have a tts it's kind of insulting towards me but i gotta be fair so uh all right
00:54:20.160 sam demand with the the hater tts i suppose you could say as hannah has her fans in the
00:54:28.040 chat i i guess uh thank you for all the twitch subs by the way appreciate it guys it's coming
00:54:32.900 in in just a minute sam demand three hundred and two donated two hundred unicorn hannah you're
00:54:40.120 mogging everyone brian loki looking like a fat unicorn go work out bozo and the rest of the
00:54:47.020 girls are chopped eight oh shit was there i'd give her a kiss wow okay um i want to see what
00:54:54.840 he looks like by the way it um so the stream labs it will change bad words into other words so
00:55:01.500 unicorn was actually a retard so he was calling me a just for clarification he wasn't calling me
00:55:05.580 a unicorn which is kind of a compliment but he did in fact call me a fat retard uh i'm working
00:55:11.700 i'm working on it you know i'm working on it you know i'm trying to raw dog the diet too i'm not
00:55:18.120 trying i'm not taking those epics i'm trying to do it fucking raw dog um okay uh relationship
00:55:23.780 status over here in a relationship the longest one that i've had is average two to three years
00:55:28.940 and yeah met the guy that i'm with at church all right uh and uh you how long have you been seeing
00:55:37.360 the current guy roughly around two years oh two years okay are you guys engaged or anything like
00:55:42.240 that um yes you're engaged okay have you ever been engaged before or married no okay you met him
00:55:49.240 you're orthodox christian yes okay uh did you used to do only fans as a side hustle correct
00:55:57.140 yes a while ago you don't do it anymore though is that correct anybody else does anyone here do
00:56:02.200 oh you do of is anybody else do of or have done of i've done it as a side you did it yeah yeah
00:56:09.040 you used to do it not really i was like scamming you were just like screen recording things and
00:56:15.360 screenshotting it and then selling it to people so wait what do you mean like other people's stuff
00:56:19.900 taking taking notes it's on Pornhub I don't know what you expected me to do
00:56:24.420 yeah she's a hustler so you were pretending to be somebody else and using catfishing basically
00:56:29.440 using somebody else's content yeah were you using a white girl or no I was using black girls because
00:56:37.140 I was using like my actual face for as the sign up but like when it came to like people requesting
00:56:42.320 things i'm like okay i'll just go look for something like so you would go find like a
00:56:45.920 masturbation yeah that looked as close to me as possible which is like really really hard because
00:56:52.480 like everyone has like a very unique build and like not a lot of people that look so wait wait
00:56:57.160 what would you type into uh p-hub to like ebony what are the other adjectives to because you said
00:57:07.160 your build yeah so like what would you type in to find the build match like at the time i was like
00:57:12.320 really small so i'm like ebony like um petite petite and then like uh the what do you call
00:57:18.320 the newcomers that are like on porn a lot like you know what i'm talking about i'm not in the
00:57:23.020 business like amateur yeah all right uh somebody bought looks like they bought a merch what the
00:57:30.260 heck let me see if it comes up east coast canadian thank you you bought some merch shop.whatever.com
00:57:34.840 appreciate it brother thank you for the uh merch purchase thank you man uh i don't know if there's
00:57:39.560 anyone else i think we're good on that okay uh relationship status sir yes so i am currently
00:57:44.600 dating a girl we've been dating for 11 months and that's my longest relationship all right
00:57:49.940 rock and roll uh that's everyone's relationship status so uh we're gonna jump into a couple
00:57:57.420 topics here i think the first one and uh kind of took us a while to get through everything but uh
00:58:03.280 I think the first thing I wanted to do was ask, let's see, hmm, this is a question for Riley, and then we're going to have to recalibrate it for some of the women, but, and, well, here, let's do this, show of hands, who here is conservative?
00:58:21.920 Raise your hand if you're conservative.
00:58:25.460 Raise your hand if you're liberal.
00:58:30.460 So you're moderate, I guess?
00:58:33.280 I don't associate.
00:58:34.760 I don't know what to tell you.
00:58:36.300 All right.
00:58:36.600 Well, how about then just that'll give context for the following.
00:58:39.940 The question is, starting with Riley, would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant?
00:58:48.180 That's hard.
00:58:48.740 I think Alex Stein would agree with me on this one.
00:58:50.400 I would find myself a nine because if you're a nine, you're fine.
00:58:52.960 If you're an eight, we could have an immigration debate, but like probably go for an illegal immigrant, to be honest with you.
00:58:57.280 Give him a green card.
00:58:58.800 I think, yeah, I would rather date an illegal immigrant.
00:59:01.840 I used to be an illegal immigrant.
00:59:03.280 used to yeah but then I marry my husband so you have a green card or are you naturalized
00:59:10.000 no I'm just got I just got out my green card do you have to uh a green card so you're that's
00:59:16.500 permanent right yeah that's permanent residency okay but you don't have to beyond getting a green
00:59:23.080 card you can uh you can become a full-fledged citizen right yes so you're not full-fledged
00:59:27.420 citizen no so you can you vote i can you cannot vote okay but if are you on the pathway to trying
00:59:34.320 to become a citizen oh yes of course okay i have a question for you on this yeah um
00:59:39.260 throw it at me uh by the way is anybody here this is i guess i could ask it to anyone here
00:59:43.500 is anyone here uh like either an immigrant or a child like second generation third generation
00:59:50.980 immigrant like half like my my dad's from here my mom's not okay what for you my grandmother on
00:59:57.400 my mom's side was from italy from italy okay what about you um my mom's from japan mom's from japan
01:00:03.540 uh is she a citizen now has she become a citizen of the u.s or she has a green card she has a green
01:00:08.800 card and your father is american yes okay well i guess then this question is really only for you
01:00:14.260 let me see if i can find it hold on i'm also an immigrant what's that i'm also an immigrant
01:00:19.680 You are?
01:00:20.360 Yeah.
01:00:20.820 Like, where were you born?
01:00:21.980 South Africa.
01:00:23.180 Oh, word.
01:00:23.860 That's cool.
01:00:24.080 Do you have U.S. citizenship?
01:00:25.600 Nope.
01:00:26.080 I'm a U.K. citizen.
01:00:27.480 You're a U.K. citizen.
01:00:28.780 You were born in South Africa.
01:00:30.760 But in turn, do you have cultural affinity for the U.K. or South Africa?
01:00:37.380 Not really South Africa.
01:00:38.500 U.K. somewhat.
01:00:39.280 But I moved here when I was seven, so I'd say I'm definitely American.
01:00:41.700 But I still am technically an immigrant, I guess.
01:00:44.020 And then your parents' nationality, what is it?
01:00:46.200 My dad's a U.K. citizen, and my mom's also a U.K. citizen, although she was previously an Indian citizen.
01:00:51.820 Okay.
01:00:52.760 So here's the question.
01:00:53.880 I guess maybe it will apply to you, but for you primarily.
01:00:57.560 And you're from Mexico.
01:00:59.560 I'm from Mexico, yes.
01:01:00.480 Born in Mexico?
01:01:01.300 Born and raised in Mexico.
01:01:02.300 When did you move to the United States?
01:01:03.520 I moved, I think, in 2010.
01:01:07.360 2010.
01:01:07.960 Well, I was kind of brought by my dad.
01:01:10.600 You know, I was, I think, 17, 16, 17.
01:01:14.260 Okay, I see.
01:01:15.020 So in a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the United States and Mexico, where say neither side is right or wrong, to which country is your allegiance?
01:01:31.300 That's a really tough question, to be honest.
01:01:35.600 Well, I have to say probably to the United States at this point in my life, because, you know, my kids are from here.
01:01:42.020 My husband, he's a U.S. citizen, and, you know, but, you know, you never leave your roots, you know.
01:01:50.320 I mean, if it were to be in a war, I don't know, probably lean more towards Mexico, but, you know, I mean, it's a difficult question, you know.
01:02:00.640 And do you think you deserve citizenship?
01:02:02.600 I, you know, I deserve it.
01:02:04.960 I mean, I contribute to the society.
01:02:06.880 I'm a tax payer.
01:02:07.560 I create jobs for Americans, and, you know, I do a lot of things.
01:02:12.020 i'm i feel like i'm at and that's important you create jobs in mexico no no okay that's what i'm
01:02:17.920 saying i forgot about that yeah yeah that's what i'm saying i grew up just here in the states for
01:02:22.840 americans so and just to be clear this question is more so like a um you can still have an affinity
01:02:32.420 a cultural affinity for your country i'm assuming you have relatives and family
01:02:37.520 that live in Mexico, this isn't a rejection of your familial ties,
01:02:43.220 it's not a rejection of your culture even,
01:02:45.760 but in terms of, it's more like a legal allegiance to the United States,
01:02:51.000 your political allegiance in the event of some sort of war,
01:02:57.500 you would side with the United States over Mexico.
01:03:03.100 Probably. Probably, yes. I would say with the United States.
01:03:06.920 One thing to be aware of, so actually, I don't think this is a requirement under your green card status, I think.
01:03:13.340 I'm not familiar with the green card status.
01:03:14.700 But if you were wanting to become a naturalized U.S. citizen, you have to take the oath of allegiance.
01:03:20.760 That is correct.
01:03:21.380 In the oath of allegiance, it does require you to forsake and abandon.
01:03:26.720 That's not the exact wording, but you essentially have to forsake any allegiance to any other country, state, sovereignty, principality, kingdom, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
01:03:36.920 uh, and you, your loyalty must fully be with the United States. Correct. But I don't know
01:03:43.020 what, if there's a, uh, to get your green card, I don't know if there's a oath of allegiance for
01:03:49.200 that. No, not really. I mean, there's basically just, uh, you know, they investigate you to the
01:03:54.620 core, you know, they want to know that their relationship is for real, that you're not just
01:03:58.900 getting your papers, you know, but I think when you get your citizenship, yes, you have to,
01:04:04.760 basically are giving out your Mexican
01:04:07.060 citizenship.
01:04:09.480 Sure. Shona, what about
01:04:11.120 you? So, I mean, same
01:04:13.020 question. The United States goes to war with the
01:04:15.080 UK.
01:04:16.800 No one's right or wrong. Yeah.
01:04:18.720 That seems to never be the case. Well, it's hypothetical,
01:04:21.180 so it's like a morally neutral
01:04:22.960 conflict, you know? Well, if it's a morally
01:04:24.940 neutral conflict, I would be morally neutral.
01:04:28.540 Or I
01:04:29.100 would not, like, really be on a particular side.
01:04:31.220 Right, but in the situation,
01:04:33.140 the hypothetical you had to pick a side which side would you pick i mean i would choose the
01:04:39.020 united states because i live here because you what if you were at the time of the war breaking out
01:04:44.040 you were living in the uk at the at that moment and if if i was living in the uk and that was like
01:04:50.100 my foreseen future with the option of course that you know your oath of allegiance would
01:04:56.900 if it was to the united states obviously you wouldn't have to publicly say this and you could
01:05:01.640 always go back to the united states prior to outbreak of major conflict or something i would
01:05:08.320 just choose wherever i plan on living long term i mean like at that point do you ever see yourself
01:05:13.060 in your life living long term in the uk no i'd live here okay no uh so i guess back to this
01:05:19.180 though the question is uh would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant to which you say
01:05:24.220 illegal immigrant yeah uh so going around the table would you rather i guess you can maybe swap
01:05:32.480 it wait hold on you have to change the question for the people who are not conservative this is
01:05:38.260 a question more so for the more conservative people uh hmm how do we how do we swap it to
01:05:45.140 be a question for libs would you rather data well yeah would you rather date a conservative
01:05:51.180 or an ice officer.
01:05:53.260 Wait, how about this?
01:05:54.260 Or an ice officer?
01:05:55.140 Or an ice officer?
01:05:56.680 That's so hard.
01:05:57.200 Or a trans man.
01:06:01.420 Oh.
01:06:02.120 This is so uncool.
01:06:03.960 Why is it uncool?
01:06:05.560 I don't like either of the options.
01:06:07.860 You don't like transgenders?
01:06:09.440 Are you transphobic?
01:06:10.660 I'm not transphobic.
01:06:11.040 We do not need this on that podcast.
01:06:12.680 I just would like.
01:06:13.260 So, Angelica, for you,
01:06:14.980 would you rather date a liberal
01:06:15.920 or an illegal immigrant?
01:06:17.500 A liberal.
01:06:19.700 Why?
01:06:19.980 Really?
01:06:21.180 Well, to your Mexican point, correct me if I'm wrong,
01:06:25.080 los tóxicos, they have loyalty tests.
01:06:28.220 The Mexican men are common to hit or cheat on their women
01:06:32.280 to prove that their rider dies.
01:06:34.120 And that's typical of a lot of men from other countries
01:06:36.780 that are not in the Western world.
01:06:37.940 Are you assuming that the legal is from Mexico?
01:06:39.340 So I'm like, I don't want anything to do with them.
01:06:42.480 I like Western men, including Americanized Hispanics.
01:06:46.400 But it has to be Americanized, Westernized people.
01:06:49.220 Why are we assuming that the illegal is from Mexico?
01:06:54.080 Because they're the most common.
01:06:55.340 Good point.
01:06:56.140 There could be any.
01:06:58.140 Well, in my experience, I've only ever seen Mexican illegals.
01:07:01.200 Now there's more Somalians and Haitians and all of these different people.
01:07:04.000 There's always been all of those.
01:07:06.180 It's just the ones that we talk about.
01:07:08.180 The largest bulk of illegal immigration comes from south of the border, particularly Mexico.
01:07:12.340 It's like 50% at minimum has always been from Mexico.
01:07:15.980 It's because it's easier to slide in here.
01:07:18.560 Literally, it's like a walk.
01:07:20.360 You've got to take a plane from here else.
01:07:22.980 No, no, it's not easy.
01:07:24.180 I actually crossed the river.
01:07:26.220 That's the hard way.
01:07:27.200 It's easier.
01:07:28.260 That's what she's getting at.
01:07:29.140 I need to hear this story.
01:07:30.540 A lot of people fly in and overstay their visa, which is the easiest way to do it.
01:07:34.680 It's just they have to have American dollars to afford that ticket.
01:07:37.540 Otherwise, you have to basically take that whole commute on the train and everything.
01:07:40.840 Yeah, I mean, but to say that, you know, the Hispanic men are saying Mexican men are, you know, they have to, you know, that basically they have to hitch or whatever.
01:07:52.900 I mean, I think it's, you're generalizing.
01:07:55.320 Not all of them, of course, but it is common and I just don't want to deal with it.
01:07:58.640 I feel like every illegal immigrant I've met has been someone that's like overstayed a visa or something like that.
01:08:04.080 So I just don't have the same experience.
01:08:06.220 Well, not all of them.
01:08:08.240 That's what you did to her.
01:08:09.200 See how like retarded it is?
01:08:10.840 No, it doesn't sound hard to me at all.
01:08:12.460 How about you?
01:08:13.280 Which one would you pick?
01:08:14.340 Me?
01:08:14.700 Yeah.
01:08:15.720 Well, there's nothing.
01:08:17.640 Something worse than an extreme leftist woman is a beta leftist male.
01:08:21.340 So I'm going to go with illegals.
01:08:22.840 Also, my type.
01:08:24.240 I love my Mexican daddy.
01:08:25.680 So especially if you're a Mexican daddy.
01:08:28.380 What about Nick Fuentes?
01:08:30.260 He's Hispanic.
01:08:31.180 He's not cute.
01:08:32.660 He's not Mexican enough.
01:08:34.940 Not enough.
01:08:35.420 I want a man.
01:08:36.240 And sometimes I feel like leftist men are like, will you pay half my bill?
01:08:40.840 and well can I leech off you and it's just like I find like Mexican men especially are they want
01:08:46.360 to provide they want that like natural role and anytime I haven't been in any sort of abusive
01:08:51.720 situation it's been with white people so I find them to have the same values kind of that I grew
01:08:56.280 up with yeah I mean I think that Hispanic cultures have more of this men are more you know they're
01:09:03.480 more culturally speaking they're more characterized for being more conservative you know and but yeah
01:09:10.680 they also expect you to be in the conservative side you know that's from my experience i basically
01:09:15.640 all of my all of my relationships have been you know my same race i should i say that i have dated
01:09:22.440 a couple of you know white white guys and yeah i mean culturally speaking it's totally different
01:09:27.960 you know uh i think hispanic men are very very conservative but they they expect the same from
01:09:34.000 you and i don't i consider myself conservative in certain ways but i think yeah thinking about it i
01:09:38.820 think i'm a little bit more moderate same yeah you know i believe in a lot of stuff but you know i
01:09:44.280 don't like a man telling me what to do basically well on those two points when it comes to leftist
01:09:48.520 men they typically treat women like public property and conservative men treat them like
01:09:52.900 private property where they're mine but on your point i only ever dated one hispanic man mexican
01:09:58.960 he was the only one that was ever aggressive so after that and not only that i was forewarned by
01:10:03.860 a friend of mine's father-in-law where he was like oh i heard that mexican men beat their women
01:10:07.740 and I'm like oh how could you say something like that no of course not and then yeah I mean I had
01:10:15.080 to eat my words basically well well well at least you realized it that's good you get jealous I will
01:10:20.320 say that like a little bit territorial yeah I mean no I mean I want to say they're hard working
01:10:25.720 and they contribute I mean most of the people like very hard working yeah I mean most of the
01:10:31.420 people that I know again are you know immigrants or illegal immigrants and yes everybody's very
01:10:36.220 hard-working. I mean, I don't take, I mean, I work, I hire, you know, immigrants, and everybody's very
01:10:43.760 hard-working, and everybody has their wives, you know, they provide. My chef, let's just put it that
01:10:49.260 way, his wife doesn't work for anything. He works seven days a week, all day, and, you know, she's a
01:10:56.600 happy wife. Well, I think the subject right now is just pretty much pure immigration, although I
01:11:01.820 don't deny that, obviously, Hispanics work very hard. I've seen that my entire life. I mean, I grew
01:11:05.280 up at Jehovah's Witness, so it's like all there were were undocumented immigrants. At the same
01:11:09.660 time, the issue right now in the country is that it's so overstrained on our public resources that
01:11:15.260 although there are people who are hardworking, it's just like we don't necessarily need that
01:11:20.380 extra occupancy until we get everything figured out as to how we modify things. The thing is that,
01:11:25.440 yeah, to get to that point, I mean, I'm very involved on this immigration stuff.
01:11:29.660 during the fourth years of biden a lot of people that shouldn't be here came in here you know i'm
01:11:35.580 an immigrant but i mean that was a mess again i'm telling you because i i work directly with
01:11:41.660 venezuelans cubans puerto ricans you name it are they legal uh so the ones that i have right now
01:11:47.920 they have a work permit all of them do yeah all of them okay good so but i'm telling you uh there
01:11:52.860 was a time you know that i will hire let's just say a venezuelan and turns out that this guy was
01:11:57.920 being followed by the Venezuelan
01:12:00.120 government for whatever reason. He killed somebody.
01:12:02.800 He did something really
01:12:04.020 horrible. But yeah, I have to agree
01:12:06.100 that during the four years of Biden,
01:12:08.060 a lot of people shouldn't have come
01:12:10.140 here. And the same Venezuelan people,
01:12:12.060 the same Cuban people told me,
01:12:14.100 Maduro, Maduro is just letting
01:12:16.000 people out of the
01:12:18.080 jails, out of mental institutions.
01:12:20.700 That was for real. I mean,
01:12:22.020 whoever doesn't believe that, you believe in
01:12:23.980 another line because it was for real.
01:12:25.660 like these governments were letting people out just to come here and basically do a mess you
01:12:31.860 know well that's the thing they were cleaning out their own countries and the economy of their
01:12:35.160 countries basically depend on the remittances from this country but my issue is that from that
01:12:40.260 decision that Biden took it's reflective of the fact that immigration is a tool that they use
01:12:44.980 politically where it's like exactly if they use a bulk subset of people who are not assimilating
01:12:49.520 if they use a bulk subset of people who don't share the same temperaments habits values of the
01:12:53.000 people in this country, it's much easier to
01:12:54.960 propagandize them against the natives' interests.
01:12:57.740 Absolutely. That's why
01:12:58.960 I mean, I'm pro-immigration
01:13:01.140 like I said, but
01:13:02.820 yeah, I mean, this
01:13:04.620 you know, Democrats usually bring people so
01:13:06.940 they can vote for it. That's how I see it.
01:13:09.140 I've seen it firsthand. I mean
01:13:11.020 they, these people
01:13:12.640 I can, I cannot just understand, you know
01:13:14.780 I've seen a lot of Venezuelans, a lot of Cubans
01:13:16.860 like they just stepped foot, let's just say when Biden
01:13:18.900 was here, they just stepped foot here in the States
01:13:21.080 and they get food
01:13:22.880 stamps they get a phone they get a hotel and you know i've been here i don't know for more than 15
01:13:29.420 years and i never got anything just because i'm mexican you know but this whole propaganda
01:13:33.440 propaganda that biden had you know you have to come to you you can come to the state and you
01:13:38.340 will get all your stuff free that was for real well that's the thing that i also i agree with
01:13:43.320 your statement like yeah that's the thing that i have as an issue though is that people tend to and
01:13:47.100 it's something that's reflective of this podcast a lot they put the burden on the individual because
01:13:50.940 Obviously, we live in a post-WASP society.
01:13:54.340 But in reality, these systems, these welfare systems of, you know, the phone, the whatever,
01:13:59.620 it's all kind of like corporatism marrying socialism and benefiting the elites that basically
01:14:05.820 are seeing profit by ushering in and controlling these people's lives.
01:14:09.880 Where it's like, the issue isn't necessarily with the individuals.
01:14:13.200 The problem is with the system itself.
01:14:14.720 If you were to start chastising every individual, that's going to take forever.
01:14:17.540 But if you start chastising the mechanisms that be, that might solve things a little
01:14:20.500 faster yeah and again i believe also that you know there's a the actual people that come from
01:14:26.880 venezuela or cuba or nicaragua let's put it that way uh they're usually not liberals because they
01:14:33.600 come from the government they come from socialism they come from dictatorships like all my you know
01:14:38.380 the people that i know that are venezuela and cuban you know they hate they hate with heart
01:14:43.460 like liberals or democrats because of the reason because they know what it is you know people here
01:14:48.380 in the state don't know what actually socialism do to people like they think that everything is
01:14:53.740 just like you know like a little cartoon that everything is for free here's your free stuff
01:14:57.980 you're gonna get it for free nothing is gonna happen the money's not gonna come from anywhere
01:15:01.600 but you know that's a that's very but that's the thing is that and it's an issue that i have once
01:15:06.620 again i love hispanics i am hispanic i love them i just everything but the issue is much like women
01:15:12.360 with marriage hispanics with green cards is contingent on whether they're going to vote
01:15:17.000 republican or democrat and my issue is if our values are so conservative why is it that when
01:15:22.520 you come here you vote liberal and democrat when you know that's going to support things like
01:15:25.800 pro-abortion and like gay marriage and all of this jazz and it's like you're backing down on
01:15:31.560 your own religious moral christian you know societal values just to get material benefits
01:15:37.680 for yourself and that is reflective of a poor character that you don't necessarily want in any
01:15:41.860 nation that's that is right you know what we need to do no more legal immigrants we gotta
01:15:46.520 fucking deport them all that's what we got to do i don't necessarily agree because i mean why
01:15:53.560 because immigrants we do a lot of things uh well hold on i know i didn't specify illegal immigrants
01:16:00.420 although we should probably reduce the legal immigrants we allow in also substantially i mean
01:16:06.980 i agree in certain certain things of that but again i think the way the government is doing
01:16:12.620 it right now i i don't necessarily agree the way they're deporting okay i don't know how what are
01:16:18.520 they doing specifically that you disagree with i mean i just feel i mean i know this has happened
01:16:23.800 all the time with all the presidents i know that i'm not i'm not that stupid i just feel like you
01:16:29.660 know they're they're being too harsh to people and that's why it's getting a bad rep i entirely
01:16:34.660 agree with you entirely agree with me the issue is that they're trying to make this like huge
01:16:38.800 propaganda of how brutal they're making it but the numbers don't reflect the brutality so it's
01:16:42.820 almost like they're setting it up to fail in the first part where it's like okay we want these
01:16:46.320 people out for sure but you're marketing it in such a terrible way that you're losing the public's
01:16:50.880 like interest in it which is like wholly on it i hate but ask yourself why look what happened
01:16:56.680 when kamala got up and said don't come here they came by the millions so they are showing a no
01:17:01.620 nonsense approach look this is going to happen to you you won't be able to get back into the
01:17:05.360 country for 10 years true but why don't they then target the people who are hiring the illegal
01:17:09.200 immigrants why don't they target the welfare programs that are basically they should they
01:17:13.440 should but they're not doing it they're making it as ugly and as harmful as possible for the public
01:17:17.680 like image of it which is only going to hurt the cause meanwhile they're not like materially doing
01:17:22.120 anything to actually get those numbers i don't even understand i mean look there were deportations
01:17:28.260 there were deportations under Obama, there were deportations under Biden. Much of the media
01:17:33.560 attention on the deportations, by the way, and they were apprehending, you know, the way they
01:17:38.480 were apprehending these people has not changed substantially ever since Trump became president.
01:17:43.540 It's just there's political motive now, because this is going to be like a point to sort of
01:17:49.580 push people to the polls to vote Democrat in the upcoming election. And so there was none of this
01:17:55.960 attention on ICE, really, at least to this degree, when Obama was president, when Biden was president.
01:18:01.700 It's a sign-up. Totally. In 2016, CNN did a piece, look it up, and they were calling the illegal
01:18:07.880 immigrants targets, and they were praising Obama, and they were acting like he was doing this great
01:18:13.260 thing and protecting United States citizens. So it's just kind of crazy over the last decade,
01:18:17.480 it's flopped, and now all of a sudden, all this negative media attention. That's what I'm not
01:18:21.220 trying to say because again um again i'm not against eyes i'm not against deportation because
01:18:27.380 yes a lot of a lot of people came here that shouldn't be here like let's just get that
01:18:31.380 straight and i'm an immigrant again i i love immigrant people of course i i i work wait hold
01:18:38.060 on everyone who crossed the border illegally or who is here illegally doesn't belong here
01:18:44.320 not just the violent criminals all of them they all have to go well i don't agree with that i
01:18:51.180 came that way well they brought me that way i didn't i didn't i didn't have a choice though
01:18:56.200 they brought me well okay so yes obviously if you're a minor and you're under the custody of
01:19:01.100 your parents and they commit the crime uh and you're secondary to that but yes you also if
01:19:06.940 you're here illegally yeah you're going to be deported too or should be well again but i try
01:19:11.820 my ways to to get situated you know my husband is a you sit and sit and that's the first thing we
01:19:16.920 did. Well, now you're legally here. Yeah, now I'm legally here. Originally, though, you were here
01:19:21.000 illegally. Yes, I stay a lot. Have your parents been deported? No, no, they actually have a tourist
01:19:26.820 visa. Well, that's the thing that I'm once again saying. It's like everyone's falling for the
01:19:29.940 propaganda psyop. It's like you're once again looking at like these individuals that are coming
01:19:34.520 over, but it's like who's ushering them in? Who's giving them the welfare? Who's giving them the
01:19:38.140 Medicaid? Who's giving them the promise? And when it comes to Obama, they counted turnaways at the
01:19:42.180 border as deportations. They were flubbing the numbers, but in reality, the immigrants were
01:19:46.420 still coming in at like extraordinary amounts. Let's just talk that immigrants are still coming.
01:19:51.620 Yeah, they've always capitalized on like illegal scab labor. This is a problem since the 70s and
01:19:56.400 it's only been multiplying. So once again, it's like blaming the individuals is not going to do
01:20:01.040 anything because ultimately they're being incentivized to come over. You have to kill
01:20:05.100 the incentive to stop them from coming. The government did incentivize them. Hold on,
01:20:09.740 that's crazy. That's crazy policy advisement. So okay, first off, hold on, I'll explain it.
01:20:16.000 So first off, if it is the case, and I think it is the case, that we aren't holding these companies responsible who are profiteering off of these illegal immigrants because you can pay them less or whatever, I'm 100% on board with you.
01:20:29.140 They ought to be prosecuted, too.
01:20:30.760 I have no objection to that.
01:20:32.300 But saying that the blame should only be placed on the systems in place that enable this, sure, we can address that, too.
01:20:39.060 But also there needs to be a mechanism to actually remove the individuals from this country, ergo deportation.
01:20:46.140 There was a repatriation act that happened in the 1920s during the Great Depression where once they cut out welfare, once they cut out Medicaid, like 3 million Mexicans went back to Mexico immediately.
01:20:55.380 Once you remove the mechanisms to keep them here, the incentives to come here, they go away because they can't assimilate without those mechanisms.
01:21:02.100 Then you only retain those that can properly assimilate.
01:21:04.600 Hold on.
01:21:04.880 But so, okay, you're saying because they receive certain government benefits, that that is the reason why they're here?
01:21:13.700 Yes.
01:21:14.260 Schooling, health care.
01:21:15.020 The same reason why there are so many homeless people here because they get all the benefits.
01:21:18.300 Can I ask those?
01:21:19.700 Hold on, one thing, one thing.
01:21:20.960 I would argue even if all of those things were to disappear, most of the people that come here do so for economic reasons.
01:21:28.560 Even if there weren't government handouts and they weren't receiving benefits, there's a couple other factors here.
01:21:33.560 the united states is safer and it has a stronger economy and so should we just tank our own economy
01:21:39.280 and make america unsafe so it's untenable for legal immigrants to come here you just said it
01:21:44.360 employment who's employing them if they're not being if they're only hiring americans who are
01:21:48.720 verified americans we wouldn't have this problem they wouldn't come over here there would be
01:21:52.420 blockades why are they why are these companies over non-government organizations like his are
01:21:59.480 the ones transporting them over here.
01:22:01.400 Isn't it already illegal to employ an illegal immigrant?
01:22:05.980 It is illegal.
01:22:06.500 They come over here.
01:22:08.140 They still do it.
01:22:09.120 They do it everywhere.
01:22:10.200 I mean, this is going to, it's not going to stop.
01:22:12.100 It has always happened.
01:22:13.100 I mean, when I got here to the States, I got employed at, what, 16 or 17, I got employed
01:22:18.380 at a Mexican restaurant.
01:22:19.620 They didn't ask me for an ID.
01:22:20.680 They didn't ask me for anything, but just show up tomorrow at 7 a.m.
01:22:25.140 And basically, I didn't know any English because I was, you know, I came from Mexico.
01:22:29.480 And I was just speaking Spanish.
01:22:32.200 But, yeah, I mean, that's never going to stop.
01:22:34.600 That has happened since, again, like 2010.
01:22:36.860 So with your employees, I know that they're, you know, legally able to be here and whatnot because of their work visas.
01:22:41.760 But are you paying them under the table?
01:22:43.500 No.
01:22:44.040 They actually, no, no, no, no.
01:22:45.840 Everything is legal.
01:22:46.700 The entire process of illegal immigration, it's like a huge trafficking ring in and of itself.
01:22:51.480 That the same corporations that are hiring these illegals are using their bodies, their organs, their sex, everything to basically fund their own non-government organizations.
01:22:59.140 the government and the worst thing is that we get paid very minimum when i started working i was
01:23:04.980 getting paid i think fifty dollars a day working from 7 a.m to 5 p.m fifty dollars a day yeah and
01:23:10.940 the employer should be prosecuted chono you wanted to jump in oh yeah i was just gonna say i don't
01:23:15.580 know if illegal immigration completely demerits welfare programs because those also benefit
01:23:19.800 non-illegal immigrants if i'm not mistaken in the u.s sure but it needs calibration right now it's
01:23:24.380 being completely abused we can't you're saying to like cut down those welfare programs for the
01:23:29.400 people that are illegal and not paying them down or cut them completely if they're not paying into
01:23:33.240 it why would they get it completely or cut no you have to cut down who's on it so basically there's
01:23:36.960 a bunch of americans in the rust belt who are addicted to meth who are struggling because
01:23:40.180 there's no jobs in the rust belt and they're not getting the welfare that they're supposed to get
01:23:44.600 for all of the taxes and for all of the heritage that they have in this country and instead it's
01:23:48.280 going to people who just arrived i do agree that those people should have priority with welfare
01:23:52.040 programs it's not priority it should go to them that's what it was designated for we pay into it
01:23:56.040 we work hard they're being disenfranchised that's why the american populace is being destroyed women
01:24:00.300 in that area are now just absolutely unstable and this could certainly like boost up the birth
01:24:05.620 population if they were actually aided i just thought you were kind of criticizing those
01:24:10.180 programs no i'm for welfare i love welfare well actually with welfare i have a hot take on this
01:24:14.840 i think that when somebody signs up for any type of government assistance while they're signing up
01:24:18.660 they should relinquish their right to vote correct that's true yeah it's like you can't
01:24:22.180 be dependent on the government and then vote to influence the government i also think i also
01:24:26.540 think you should be able you should take a drug test correct i completely disagree with that
01:24:31.640 because those individuals who are on the on those welfare programs are still completely subject to
01:24:36.020 you also work to help the people administration and the presidency so they're affected by it
01:24:40.100 should they not be able to contribute to like voting and no because they would just vote for
01:24:44.580 more free shit correct but that's if you give a man a fish he'll eat for a day if you promise a
01:24:50.720 man another man's fish he'll vote for you not only that it's like we are subject to that person's
01:24:55.000 everyone votes for what responsibility we become their slave not all of us billionaires will vote
01:24:59.920 for what how does banning abortion benefit me that doesn't benefit me how does how does banning
01:25:04.240 slavery how does banning slavery and protecting these young black ladies right here how does that
01:25:08.120 benefit me it doesn't i agree and like we should vote for what some of us vote for other people
01:25:12.920 and what would be good for society.
01:25:15.080 Are you saying only black people have been enslaved?
01:25:16.820 Or I think all of us have been enslaved at some point.
01:25:18.520 Yeah, yeah, no, at some point, yeah.
01:25:20.040 I'm just saying, under the worldview you mentioned,
01:25:21.840 like, billionaires who vote for what benefits themselves,
01:25:24.260 like, that should also, like, not be allowed.
01:25:26.100 Yeah, because the few hundred or a low amount of thousand billionaires
01:25:29.880 that live in America, that's swaying elections with their votes.
01:25:31.900 And also, you could point out an exception of someone
01:25:33.440 who's reliant on a welfare program,
01:25:34.940 who's, like, a man who would still vote for, like,
01:25:37.100 things, like, to do with abortion that doesn't affect him.
01:25:39.560 I don't think billionaires should be able to be, like, international.
01:25:42.240 I think that if you're in this country doing business, you should be reflective of the heritage of this country.
01:25:45.980 You shouldn't have a multinational corporation that's influencing multiple countries for their own commerce.
01:25:50.240 I don't know what that has to do with what I just said.
01:25:51.720 Hold on, really quick, really quick.
01:25:52.960 I think we got a little off topic.
01:25:53.640 The champagne pot from Robert Tanner.
01:25:55.540 Who would like champagne?
01:25:57.100 Me.
01:25:58.480 So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
01:26:04.880 Okay, can we get seven cups?
01:26:07.040 You know what?
01:26:07.720 Here, Nathan, let me just have you pour back there for me, okay?
01:26:11.220 And then you'll hand out the cups
01:26:12.800 Here, hold on, let me
01:26:15.280 Yeah, yeah, stay there
01:26:16.680 Thank you, Metro Matt
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01:26:20.620 I love big booty Latinas
01:26:23.140 American women are chocked
01:26:25.380 That is all
01:26:26.560 Yo, Metro Matt, thank you, man
01:26:28.080 Appreciate the TTSWs in the chat for Metro Matt
01:26:31.260 Big booty Latinas
01:26:33.180 There are big booty white girls
01:26:34.980 Who's spiritually a big booty Latina?
01:26:37.100 White girl evolving, okay
01:26:38.680 I will say, speaking of immigrants
01:26:40.940 My almost four-year-old is actually in a Venezuelan-run preschool, and he's completely bilingual.
01:26:49.860 And those women, they take such good care, but they are here.
01:26:53.620 Is it the Quality Learning Center?
01:26:55.200 What's that?
01:26:55.660 The Quality Learning Center.
01:26:57.640 To her point, they're actually very conservative, and they're here legally.
01:27:01.100 But Arkansas is very strict on immigration, so they wouldn't be running a business.
01:27:04.920 We do have a chat here from Gigi William.
01:27:07.120 Why does illegal immigration dominate the national debate while corporate reliance on foreign labor from countries like China gets a free pass?
01:27:15.000 I don't think it does.
01:27:16.160 I mean, I say the same thing.
01:27:18.000 Well, I mean, we manufacture a lot in China.
01:27:20.920 What's that?
01:27:21.400 We manufacture a lot in China.
01:27:22.580 All the jobs that should have been to the Rust Belt, I'm glad I finished that, went to China.
01:27:26.320 Yeah.
01:27:26.980 They passed a bunch of regulation in the 1970s and 1980s, made it economically impossible to manufacture in Chicago and Detroit and everywhere in the Rust Belt and got exported to China.
01:27:34.980 the libs basically ruined uh america with their green energy bullshit reagan but that's the thing
01:27:40.360 that i have as an argument why are we putting the onus on all of the immigrants instead of
01:27:45.060 recognizing the people who own and run this country betrayed their own people that like
01:27:49.420 between if i have a bullet and there was a traitor and an enemy you give it to the traitor not the
01:27:54.840 enemy am i am i wrong no i'm not wrong you would give it to like an illegal immigrant over like
01:28:03.300 No, I would give it to my enemy.
01:28:05.360 Or my traitor, rather.
01:28:06.360 Someone who betrays me, I would give it to them, not an enemy.
01:28:08.980 And I don't see illegal immigrants as my enemy.
01:28:10.820 I see them as someone who's being incentivized to basically be propagandized against my best interests.
01:28:15.620 So who's the traitor?
01:28:16.220 But they assume we're the same.
01:28:17.440 Who's the traitor, then?
01:28:18.300 Multinational corporations.
01:28:19.480 Okay.
01:28:19.820 And the government.
01:28:20.500 I think it's a mixture.
01:28:21.200 Yeah, they work together, basically.
01:28:22.580 The multinational corporations own our politicians.
01:28:25.640 It's corporate greed.
01:28:27.080 Illegal immigration is funded by the government, which is owned by multinational corporations
01:28:31.640 that benefit from the scab labor absolutely so i'm sorry when uh have tiffany handed out when
01:28:37.500 you say multinational corporations like what do you mean by that like big tech companies or like
01:28:41.440 yeah tech companies i suppose but i was thinking more like anything that's under like the world
01:28:45.220 economic forum or i guess meta ngos ngos but they're government they're not corporations um
01:28:52.320 so you're like anti-big corporation yes i'm anti-banks it's actually a little bit like
01:28:57.120 liberal no it's not it's very anti-semitic of you it's very anti-semitic oh my goodness
01:29:00.920 no it's not liberal at all liberals are pro-capitalism liberalism it was a product
01:29:06.720 of capitalism it's a masonic concept that came from individualism selling out your heritage
01:29:10.680 selling out whatever that's why you don't have a problem with illegal immigration you have no
01:29:14.100 heritage i never i when did when did i say i had no problem with you want them to have welfare
01:29:18.440 that's a huge issue i didn't say that i just i was just oh my goodness okay anyway so when it
01:29:24.400 comes to illegal immigration that's a reflection that you're betraying your own cultural and
01:29:27.960 religious and heritage values which is a product of liberalism but capitalism is intertwined with
01:29:32.580 liberalism that's why leftists say they hate liberals even though most leftists are liberals
01:29:36.360 themselves okay i mean instead of the world the word liberal like you could say there's like
01:29:40.060 leftists who have beliefs that are slightly aligned with are stupid to put it slightly
01:29:43.900 aligned with socialist like ideas social no that's marxism they're like democratic socialism
01:29:48.960 like that sort of that's a mark well it depends on what is democratic socialism like kind of like
01:29:53.180 mum donnie's campaign for example but like can you tell me what it is what is democratic socialism
01:29:58.400 i hear this word all the time focusing on like resources for the public things of that sort
01:30:02.420 but they pretend to do that while they wired into their pockets but who's the democracy that's
01:30:07.880 reflecting who's getting the benefits don't unstore it are the natives not the public because
01:30:12.480 the public could include illegal immigrants it can include everyone's getting the benefits like
01:30:15.680 in new york if there's like free public transportation everyone has access if i am
01:30:20.180 for public transportation if a lot of people are getting something free i'm just i'm speaking of
01:30:24.800 the idea if i am for public transportation health care housing all of that jazz which i am i want
01:30:29.360 it to be for the people who are of that blood and belong to that nation i don't want it to be for
01:30:34.500 someone that has absolutely no heritage no interest no roots there at that point you're
01:30:38.840 basically incentivizing traders to come over and vote against your best interests to change the
01:30:42.840 culture well my belief regarding illegal immigration is that like it should there's there should be as
01:30:47.380 much done as possible to prevent it in the first place and if it comes down to deportation
01:30:50.820 i understand that although i don't agree with a lot of ice's methodology i think deportation is
01:30:55.060 like the weakest way to do it it's it's a physical action you should do it in a pragmatic way first
01:30:59.840 that's why i say i think it's a psyop i think that the whole violent deportation thing is to
01:31:04.060 subvert deportation's popularity i think that if you were to remove the mechanisms behind it people
01:31:09.200 would naturally and peacefully leave and there would be no cultural division no culture wars
01:31:13.620 No one would be arguing about it.
01:31:14.880 Everyone would coalesce.
01:31:15.960 We are paying people $5,000 to leave.
01:31:18.540 Hold on.
01:31:19.000 Really quick, we've got to do a little shout-out for Robert Tanner.
01:31:21.840 Robert Tanner, cheers.
01:31:23.780 Thank you for the champagne pop at the beginning of the stream there.
01:31:25.980 Appreciate it, man.
01:31:26.660 Thank you for calling American Women Shopped.
01:31:30.200 I don't think that was Robert Tanner who said that.
01:31:32.040 Oh, okay.
01:31:32.300 Sorry, Robert.
01:31:33.200 Did he?
01:31:34.100 I don't think that was Robert.
01:31:35.020 Hey, don't slander.
01:31:36.900 It's already kicked in.
01:31:38.500 Slander.
01:31:39.120 Don't slander my boy, Robert Tanner.
01:31:41.180 Okay, sorry, Robert.
01:31:42.140 Sorry.
01:31:42.600 Really quick.
01:31:43.140 Thank you to Destiny.
01:31:45.800 I don't think it's that Destiny.
01:31:47.360 Oh, did that even show?
01:31:50.160 Thank you for the merch purchase there.
01:31:53.160 And then we have, let's see, Rowie.
01:31:57.340 Thank you for the Australian 160.
01:32:00.200 The UN and the globalist elite are the biggest threat to Western culture.
01:32:02.860 They have literally funded the population movement over the last 20 years
01:32:06.440 and also been behind the feminist revolution that has destroyed the single-income family.
01:32:11.300 from row we think for the thank you mate that was probably terrible but thank you man appreciate it
01:32:15.860 thank you for the soup chat there thank you for the soup chats appreciate it guys uh quick reminder
01:32:20.160 guys ten dollar display hundred dollar read two hundred dollar tts tts does get priority um
01:32:27.620 okay where were we at well i was about to say we are giving these illegal immigrants five thousand
01:32:34.900 dollars some of them to leave yes what country does that so to sit here and act like we're these
01:32:39.880 bad people. They're breaking a law, and we're
01:32:41.900 still giving them money. I actually have a great solution
01:32:43.820 to stop it from coming over.
01:32:45.900 What does it have to do with what I said?
01:32:47.840 We never got to finish the question.
01:32:49.180 Well, let me tell you something about those $5,000.
01:32:51.680 They were actually not receiving it.
01:32:53.340 I know a lot of people that were not receiving it.
01:32:56.000 What's your solution?
01:32:57.000 A great solution to stop illegal
01:32:59.820 immigration. This wouldn't help the ones here.
01:33:01.740 But to stop, it would be to place a border guard
01:33:03.680 every mile along the border wall
01:33:05.840 and shoot anyone that crosses on site.
01:33:08.120 And so what it would be, though, is it would be peace through strength.
01:33:11.680 So basically nobody in their right mind would cross over if they know that they're going to get shot right away.
01:33:15.280 Nobody would.
01:33:16.140 So if a mother's bringing her child across the border, child gets shot.
01:33:20.180 I understand that.
01:33:21.400 I understand that.
01:33:22.360 But nobody would do it.
01:33:23.500 And if somebody does do it, some 21-year-old guy is like, hey, man, let's go to America, man.
01:33:28.300 And they try to hop over the border.
01:33:29.400 They're going to get shot.
01:33:30.080 One person gets shot.
01:33:31.340 Nobody would cross the border.
01:33:32.460 So a child getting shot is a better scenario than a child existing illegally in the U.S.
01:33:37.120 It would be better than thousands of children being trafficked through the Southern border every year.
01:33:40.320 Do you see what I have?
01:33:41.080 It's like you're using the most unpopular optics, and you're using the most empathetic appeal,
01:33:44.740 and it's a culture divide which could be resolved easier by just addressing the corporate multinational companies that are incentivizing.
01:33:51.640 How do we address that?
01:33:52.100 You basically stop doing this whole exchange that is absolutely stupid,
01:33:56.560 and instead you focus on why exactly are these illegal immigrants from all over the world being incentivized,
01:34:02.200 and how exactly are they coming over here when they don't have an education?
01:34:04.840 How do they know English?
01:34:05.940 How do they know the navigation process is here?
01:34:07.760 They don't.
01:34:08.280 So someone is funneling them over.
01:34:10.180 Someone is trafficking them.
01:34:11.620 People when I get here, they don't know.
01:34:12.960 But, I mean, I got to the Western civilization.
01:34:15.800 I mean, my culture is totally different from here.
01:34:18.360 And I had to learn everything from zero.
01:34:20.640 I mean, again, I had to learn English.
01:34:22.180 I went to school here.
01:34:23.300 I did everything necessarily to fit into the Western culture.
01:34:26.580 I wouldn't say you're not part of Western culture because you're Christian, though.
01:34:29.540 I assume you're Christian.
01:34:30.280 I think that Mexican people are Westerns.
01:34:32.380 Yeah, they're Western.
01:34:33.220 We're on the Western Hemisphere, girl.
01:34:34.300 Different languages.
01:34:34.880 It's a different language, and, yeah, there's a difference in culture for sure.
01:34:38.620 You know, I mean, Mexicans, we like a lot of different things from Americans for sure.
01:34:43.660 But, you know, the problem, I don't think, you know, Hispanics, I think Hispanics, we get, you know, we get very used to this culture, the Western culture.
01:34:52.600 I feel like the people coming from.
01:34:53.400 We don't get used to you guys, though, so that's the problem.
01:34:55.580 That's a lie.
01:34:55.980 I mean, that's you probably because.
01:34:58.680 You know what, I mean.
01:34:59.200 You guys are talking about big booty Latinas this entire time.
01:35:01.560 It's like, wait a minute, what do you mean you're not used to it?
01:35:02.760 I had to pick between that and a liberal.
01:35:04.420 It's as white as you.
01:35:05.640 My husband is white.
01:35:06.700 You had Christy Nome celebrating her birthday at a Mexican restaurant.
01:35:09.220 Yeah.
01:35:10.520 White people love Mexicans.
01:35:12.200 Mexican food.
01:35:12.900 That's being tolerant of Mexican culture, though.
01:35:14.420 I'm just saying.
01:35:15.140 That's the thing.
01:35:15.660 Just because you're getting to Florida doesn't mean you're not intolerant.
01:35:17.940 We're intolerant to the illegal way of them coming over here.
01:35:20.880 Not intolerant to their culture.
01:35:22.080 That's the lie.
01:35:22.600 There's not a restaurant that doesn't have Mexicans in it.
01:35:25.380 Or we're not intolerant to their culture.
01:35:27.440 We're intolerant to people coming over here.
01:35:28.660 Sometimes they are.
01:35:29.280 That's the thing.
01:35:29.960 The friction itself is so manufactured.
01:35:32.520 I'm like, wait a minute.
01:35:33.040 Americans in general have like even positive opinions when it comes to Hispanics they just
01:35:37.540 don't like the laws being broken and the numbers of people coming over but there's really no
01:35:41.120 vitriol there not always there's vitriol is in itself contrived to distract oneself once again
01:35:46.160 from the multinational corporations and non-government organizations funneling them over
01:35:49.740 wait so do you think there exists like zero prejudice or judgment between but um regarding
01:35:53.520 like Mexicans and Hispanics in the U.S. in my experience Mexicans are more hostile to Mexicans
01:35:58.020 themselves like Hispanics are way more racist to other Hispanics honestly when it comes to white
01:36:02.360 people the most that they've ever done is just be like are where you come from mexico and it's
01:36:06.940 like i'm not mexican so that's about like as much prejudice as i've ever faced okay i mean there's
01:36:11.880 probably someone who's faced more prejudice out there but and i'm like congratulations on the
01:36:16.100 anecdotal fantasy that you have right now but at the end of the day it's like i don't think if they
01:36:19.460 were facing prejudice it would kind of deter them from coming over and yet they're still coming over
01:36:23.460 in droves i don't think though because they're still the economic benefits that they're seeking
01:36:26.720 right i mean that in itself is a form that they're not being prejudiced against if they were
01:36:31.200 discriminated against they wouldn't come over because then they couldn't get jobs or welfare
01:36:34.380 socially like that's social employment is a social thing that's why you're on public social
01:36:39.660 services if you don't have a job okay say you have a job but like you're discriminated by other
01:36:43.540 members of society people have thicker skin they i mean she crossed the rio grande i mean like oh
01:36:48.400 my god they called me yeah i'm saying so that it's like only americans are that so that wouldn't
01:36:52.140 deter them is what i'm saying yeah coming over that only americans i'm like oh and not americans
01:36:56.900 i take that back not americans liberal americans who have nothing to complain about so they found
01:37:00.940 they live in a bubble okay we don't care how how they call it no exactly it's basically virtue
01:37:05.880 signaling wealthy well-off like middle-class girls who are like i literally have nothing to
01:37:10.600 complain about but i have to come up with something to look like a good person because
01:37:13.020 you don't know how good you have it you guys are making the same point as i made if like a mexican
01:37:18.560 immigrant had a job and they'd like receive some prejudice they wouldn't care because they have a
01:37:22.140 job everyone yeah even if they receive prejudice it's like it's so inconsequential we literally
01:37:27.220 don't even care she just made the same so and not only that we're like if anything even preferred
01:37:31.820 because as we've already commented a lot of men like hispanic women a lot of women like hispanic
01:37:36.880 men but you're supporting the point that she's trying to make i made that point initially no
01:37:40.680 once again i have never faced any discrimination i think the most discrimination you face is just
01:37:44.560 documentation status that's about it it's just documentation that doesn't even just apply to
01:37:48.100 hispanic let me tell you no one has ever discriminated just because you're hispanic
01:37:52.100 they discriminate people have your documentation there's like slurs for like mexican people like
01:37:56.500 what is it like starts with a b i'm not gonna say it that's not even a big one it's like every
01:37:59.980 we laugh we laugh get you a mexican friend the biggest slur the biggest slur came from liberals
01:38:07.620 calling us latin x invalidating our culture that was the most detestable thing anyone's ever called
01:38:13.360 me okay that is true literally they were like trying to decolonize spanish i'm like wait a
01:38:19.240 And at this point now, I understand the most Dutch person in the world.
01:38:22.740 I am now being annoyed.
01:38:24.560 Can I chime in with a lived experience?
01:38:26.500 No Hispanic or Mexican in the U.S. has ever received any sort of racist judgment.
01:38:30.200 A hundred percent.
01:38:31.020 Everyone receives racist judgment.
01:38:33.120 I think white people have received more racist judgment than the average Hispanic in their own nation, including Europe.
01:38:38.820 In their own nation.
01:38:39.580 And if you hate us, don't come over here.
01:38:41.380 I agree.
01:38:42.440 By the multinational corporations and minorities who are not technically minorities because they're like global majorities.
01:38:47.920 We're not a correction.
01:38:48.840 being basically entitled to the benefits
01:38:50.960 that should go to Americans.
01:38:52.400 If you're for socialism, if you're for welfare,
01:38:54.480 why exactly are you for disenfranchising
01:38:56.280 American people who are not receiving the welfare
01:38:58.460 that is going to those who are serving
01:39:00.280 multinational corporations' needs?
01:39:01.900 If you're so against billionaires,
01:39:03.260 why exactly are you for the people that they're importing
01:39:05.760 getting the welfare that is not going to the Americans?
01:39:07.540 I never said I was for them, for sure.
01:39:08.580 You literally just said it.
01:39:09.800 For illegal immigrants receiving welfare?
01:39:10.420 You can continue basically moving the goalposts,
01:39:12.300 but you're right there.
01:39:12.740 I said earlier, I'm not for illegal immigrants
01:39:14.240 receiving welfare.
01:39:14.260 It's Latina power right there.
01:39:15.780 I know.
01:39:16.600 It's like any criticism against my delivery
01:39:18.360 It's just racism against my heritage.
01:39:20.020 I'm literally so affronted right now.
01:39:21.640 How could you prejudice against me?
01:39:23.260 I'm literally about to cry.
01:39:24.300 Like I was complimenting.
01:39:25.400 Wait, can I say something really quick?
01:39:27.340 Can I say something really quick?
01:39:29.720 Arkansas has been really strict.
01:39:31.200 This goes back to the PSYOP of the ICE agents
01:39:33.220 because they've been in my town for over a year.
01:39:35.540 We've been using our jails as a detention center
01:39:37.980 and not one violent gang outburst of protests have occurred.
01:39:43.620 But anyways, I digress.
01:39:44.900 I met a family at a park one day
01:39:47.080 who was from Guatemala and I said oh did you move here from Guatemala and they said no I actually
01:39:53.140 moved here from Colorado do you remember when the Venezuelan gangs were quote not terrorizing the
01:39:58.580 neighborhoods yeah they said they had to leave because these Venezuelan gangs were so bad they
01:40:03.500 were terrorizing their neighborhoods and so these illegal immigrants that were not vetted were
01:40:07.460 actually harming the legal immigrants who came here paid their dues working hard paying taxes
01:40:13.100 and they had to move because they didn't feel safe so we're actually when you sit in a bubble
01:40:18.440 and say oh you're so mean you're living outside of reality because they're actually you live in
01:40:23.580 a bubble and these people are the ones getting affected by the illegal immigration you're not
01:40:27.660 affected by it and you're over here on your little palace stool talking oh these white people are so
01:40:33.460 mean i didn't say white people were mean i never said that i just said there's probably hispanics
01:40:37.980 who received judgment in the U.S. before.
01:40:39.380 That was my only claim.
01:40:41.920 Troy, thank you for the 10.
01:40:43.040 Blake, thank you for the 10.
01:40:44.000 Appreciate it, guys.
01:40:44.960 We also have another...
01:40:46.140 Robert Tanner donated $1,000.
01:40:52.020 Are you on Discord?
01:40:52.860 Thanks, Brian, for what you did.
01:40:54.460 Thank you, man.
01:40:55.060 And thanks for the show.
01:40:56.300 Thank you, dude.
01:40:57.020 Question, what is a country?
01:40:58.200 What is an American?
01:40:59.640 Yo, thank you for that question.
01:41:00.640 I'm going to ask it here in just a moment.
01:41:01.980 Robert, can you message me on Discord?
01:41:04.360 I think I have your right username,
01:41:06.600 but i think your username and discord might be different can you send me a message really quick
01:41:10.440 man um yeah but thank you uh so the question is what is a country what is an american we can do
01:41:16.120 that super quick and then we'll go back starting with you a country i guess would be like a
01:41:23.080 globally like recognized state with a population probably like by my personal like opinion like
01:41:29.960 recognized by the UN. Okay. What about you? So I think a country is basically land where
01:41:36.560 actually there's population and yeah, it's recognized globally. And what is an American?
01:41:42.900 I mean, American, I would say is everybody that lives in the American continent. So yeah.
01:41:49.720 You know what? Because I can preemptively, I'm actually have telepathy. I can actually read
01:41:53.920 everyone's mind on this so i'm just gonna uh a country is a distinct defined area of land
01:42:00.140 such as a nation or state that is usually politically independent with its own government
01:42:04.340 population and borders and then what is an american americans are citizens or nationals
01:42:08.480 of the united states of america period i disagree that's what the the google says are we talking
01:42:15.080 about north america south america latin america you know what let's do this uh let's finish up
01:42:20.260 going around the table on the would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant so I don't
01:42:26.120 know where we left off into the mics a legal immigrant closer to the mic yeah okay what about
01:42:31.820 you I dated a hardcore liberal not that was tough so definitely a legal immigrant illegal immigrant
01:42:38.320 they're both very bad options um the liberal very emotional men I'm a tough woman I can't deal with
01:42:45.040 that and an illegal immigrant I would have to be responsible for him if he commits a crime but I
01:42:49.860 I would probably have to go with the illegal immigrant
01:42:51.440 because we would probably share the same morals and values.
01:42:54.920 Illegal immigrant.
01:42:57.840 A liberal.
01:42:58.900 I can change him.
01:42:59.880 I can make him.
01:43:01.140 I have, I have, by the way.
01:43:03.040 Not the I can fix you.
01:43:04.020 I love the comforts.
01:43:05.160 I have.
01:43:05.460 Yes, I've done it.
01:43:06.360 I respect that.
01:43:07.380 Illegal.
01:43:08.400 That's well.
01:43:09.140 I have to say just a liberal because I can change him too.
01:43:13.520 You can change the liberal?
01:43:14.860 I didn't know he had the option to change them.
01:43:16.620 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:43:17.440 It never works well.
01:43:19.160 No, it doesn't.
01:43:19.860 You could change their immigration status.
01:43:22.160 Like, what?
01:43:23.460 You fucking marry him.
01:43:24.460 She's discriminating against the...
01:43:26.420 I mean, I'm a liberal, so a liberal.
01:43:29.120 Makes sense.
01:43:29.820 Makes sense.
01:43:30.540 Okay.
01:43:31.900 Let's switch the pace here a little bit.
01:43:35.280 Robert Tanner, just a reminder if you can, send me...
01:43:37.920 Okay.
01:43:39.060 Here.
01:43:41.240 Robert Tanner, I'm going to send you a message in Discord here in just a moment.
01:43:45.200 But thank you very much.
01:43:46.100 Guys, W's in chat for Robert Tanner, man.
01:43:48.200 This guy's a fucking legend.
01:43:49.580 It's a fucking legend.
01:43:50.460 That's two $2,000 donations.
01:43:53.820 Is that another round of champagne?
01:43:55.620 Yeah.
01:43:56.280 You know, that's what I was going to message him on.
01:43:58.980 I checked the refrigerator.
01:44:02.320 We're all out of champagne.
01:44:03.560 So I'm going to ask him if I can do something else or I'll have to, like, get a – I'll have to order some champagne.
01:44:09.460 DoorDash.
01:44:10.700 Robert Tanner, I'm going to message you on Discord.
01:44:13.000 Just stay tuned for that.
01:44:14.020 I'm going to see if you're down to swap it for some sort of other perk or something else besides the champagne perp, perp, pop?
01:44:23.600 Perk, perk.
01:44:24.500 We're not taking perks.
01:44:26.240 But if you insist on the champagne pop, I will order some more champagne.
01:44:31.280 Okay, so how about we do this?
01:44:33.680 Really quick, though, do you think we should deport the illegal immigrants?
01:44:38.880 Yeah.
01:44:39.420 Okay.
01:44:39.660 Not the way that it's always currently done.
01:44:41.400 like not the exact methodology but i believe deportation is like so like but you're fine
01:44:47.560 physically apprehending them well it depends on how they're being physically apprehended but
01:44:52.940 like assume it's the necessary amount of force to apprehend somebody minimum necessary amount of
01:44:58.260 force most of the people left because they were incentivized most of the deportation numbers that
01:45:04.300 you're seeing they were given an option leave now you get this amount of money or leave now
01:45:08.540 and you can come back in X amount of years.
01:45:10.700 That's most of the deportations that are going on right now, self-deportation.
01:45:13.840 Self-deportation, that is true.
01:45:15.360 We are going to change topics here a little bit.
01:45:20.540 Riley, do you own a firearm?
01:45:22.920 Yes, I do, yes.
01:45:23.900 Okay, of course.
01:45:25.960 All right, the question is for the women, starting with you.
01:45:30.960 Would you date a man who owns a firearm who's pro-Second Amendment?
01:45:36.200 i live in california in this scenario i mean i prefer that people can own firearms in california
01:45:42.880 i prefer that to not be the case but it wouldn't be a deal breaker if i found it out later on so
01:45:46.700 you'd prefer he not have a firearm yeah what about you oh yes of course i'm fine with it okay what
01:45:52.140 about you um i'm okay with it too my husband has guns he has guns okay a little louder when you
01:45:56.720 can please absolutely i plan on owning a gun okay hell yeah hell yeah no against it okay i
01:46:06.180 prefer he owns them okay i'm texas bread i have one okay uh must have yes must have gone deal
01:46:13.180 breaker if they don't okay angelica strapped like rambo okay uh so you said no you said
01:46:20.600 prefer not to why do you say no um i just feel like i don't want to have a gun in the house i've
01:46:27.340 just seen like a lot of things that happen to other people with guns in the house can i have
01:46:31.000 you scoot your mic that way yeah scoot it like yeah uh a little too much I think and like have
01:46:37.600 it facing straight look in the camera so it's like straight towards you um strain it like yeah
01:46:46.080 so it's like 90 degree angle with the table I guess nope still fucked it up over over correction
01:46:51.760 back the other way there we go okay go ahead continue with your point yeah I just seen a lot
01:46:56.040 of things that happen to other people that have guns in the house and I just don't feel like I
01:46:59.540 want that to be an issue with me um i don't live in a neighborhood that i feel like i would need
01:47:03.520 one and i don't go places that i feel like i need one um i do have shopped before and i've been to
01:47:08.740 shooting ranges so i do enjoy that a little bit of paintballing here and there and the people that
01:47:13.080 you know that had issues with guns in the house were they white or black um both okay and then
01:47:19.560 kind of what's your position i guess similar reasoning to her and like i just feel like
01:47:23.540 the amount of guns in circulations has a lot to do with the amount of gun violence in the u.s and
01:47:28.120 and I'm just not really for that.
01:47:29.720 Does it?
01:47:30.620 Not really.
01:47:31.400 No.
01:47:32.320 Well, I mean, the U.S. has, like, a high amount of gun violence,
01:47:35.060 and it has a high amount of guns in society.
01:47:36.260 But why would they have to do...
01:47:37.380 Yeah, we also have 350 million people,
01:47:40.420 and we're on the Mexican border.
01:47:42.280 I mean, we've got more guns than people, though, so...
01:47:44.260 Do we?
01:47:45.040 Well, actually, if you look at the murder rates of white Americans
01:47:48.700 compared to these European countries, it's actually the same.
01:47:52.220 If you just go off of white Americans...
01:47:53.320 I'm talking about, like, through guns.
01:47:54.960 Yeah, no, no, no, but off of murders total in general.
01:47:56.820 if you look at white Americans.
01:48:00.140 There's other factors
01:48:01.240 in the play. It's saying that more than just guns have killed
01:48:03.120 people. There's worse things.
01:48:04.880 That's the thing. There's no worse
01:48:06.300 weapon than a gun.
01:48:08.720 The whole thing with Irina Zerutska, she got stabbed in the third
01:48:10.860 line.
01:48:12.460 By an immigrant.
01:48:14.440 There's violence that doesn't necessitate a gun.
01:48:17.080 At the end of the day, the reason there's such
01:48:18.700 high gun deaths is for the same reason that there's
01:48:20.800 a lot of high violence rates in other
01:48:22.780 countries. The people who are coming from those countries
01:48:24.660 are here and they're propagating that violence when it comes to any european or white nation
01:48:29.860 when they have guns they use it responsibly in fact the adf itself it's it doesn't even persecute
01:48:35.340 minorities quote unquote it persecutes white people from being able to have a bump stock
01:48:38.760 i know a lot of these school shooters seem to be americans from the u.s
01:48:42.080 mnn had the song he said people only care when it happens in a white high school at the end of the
01:48:47.300 day yeah school shootings happen in black neighborhoods black high schools black everything
01:48:50.760 so commonly every day.
01:48:52.720 It's a war.
01:48:53.540 Every black person
01:48:55.000 will confirm that's a war.
01:48:55.920 But what does it matter
01:48:56.640 if it's still happening?
01:48:57.340 And it only matters
01:48:58.240 when it's a white person
01:48:59.020 because it's that shocking
01:49:00.200 because it almost never happens.
01:49:01.540 I'm not saying it only happens
01:49:02.420 due to white people.
01:49:03.020 And not only that,
01:49:03.800 the rates of white people
01:49:04.660 shooting up schools
01:49:05.300 went dramatically up
01:49:06.680 after they started prescribing
01:49:07.780 trans hormones.
01:49:09.060 Trans people are now
01:49:09.900 dominating school shootings.
01:49:12.220 Oh, I'm sorry.
01:49:12.660 Is there something over there?
01:49:13.640 It's literally true.
01:49:15.160 Transgenders are violent.
01:49:16.260 Like, that's kind of a fact right there.
01:49:17.280 Why do you think
01:49:17.620 they're chopping
01:49:18.020 their own genitals off?
01:49:19.060 They're violent.
01:49:20.060 Very mentally ill, just like the gays.
01:49:21.480 What difference does it make who's doing the shootings or not?
01:49:23.340 If the shootings are happening, if the violence, to the question that was just proposed, it's like, who cares?
01:49:29.320 So then have a mental health test when you're getting the guns.
01:49:31.580 Okay, if you're so frightened of being a victim of gun violence, wouldn't you want a gun?
01:49:35.820 I wouldn't want to be sitting here like a sitting duck.
01:49:39.600 In fact, there was just a church shooting that happened that it stopped man and just clocked the guy who was coming in.
01:49:43.880 Who's talking to me right now?
01:49:44.500 This is like a three-by-one.
01:49:45.040 Are you going to zigzag?
01:49:46.300 I'm willing to have a conversation.
01:49:47.300 She's going to be like, I didn't say that.
01:49:49.360 Either way, when there are crimes involving guns, they're usually not getting them legally.
01:49:59.160 Exactly.
01:49:59.880 It's not the owner of the gun that's following the law most of the time.
01:50:03.560 Exactly.
01:50:04.160 But with all the laws that they're doing, the mental health nonsense, all of that jazz,
01:50:07.560 it's only affecting legal gun owners that need them for their own protection.
01:50:11.160 It's not affecting the criminals.
01:50:12.220 I was just going to say the reason that it's so easy to get them illegally is because there's so many in circulation as well.
01:50:16.700 No, it's because they're coming from Mexico once again.
01:50:18.320 And Mexico's getting them from, I think, well, I can't name the country.
01:50:20.800 Okay, but we're saying that we don't need them for our protection.
01:50:22.800 No, Mexico, get them from here.
01:50:23.320 We do need them from here.
01:50:24.060 We do need them from here.
01:50:25.580 Everyone needs them from here.
01:50:26.440 Everyone needs them from here.
01:50:28.620 Because there's so many guns, I want a gun.
01:50:30.720 That's why.
01:50:31.200 Stop, stop, go ahead.
01:50:32.400 If we were to make guns illegal, would there be less illegal gun purchases?
01:50:38.020 That's a loaded question, and I don't know.
01:50:39.260 But I mean, like, if we were to ban guns in America, there would probably be less illegal guns, right?
01:50:43.800 I mean, yeah, but I don't necessarily think we should just ban guns.
01:50:45.800 Wouldn't that also apply to abortion as well?
01:50:47.320 if you were to ban abortion, there would be less illegal abortions?
01:50:50.560 What do you think so?
01:50:51.560 Yeah, okay, what's your point?
01:50:53.160 No, I'm just checking for later in the debate when we talk about it.
01:50:55.840 Logical consistency.
01:50:56.360 Logical consistency.
01:50:57.000 Just making sure.
01:50:58.300 If we banned abortions, there would probably be more illegal abortions.
01:51:01.660 Okay, so what do you think about gun laws?
01:51:03.180 If we banned guns, there would probably be more illegal gun purchases.
01:51:06.700 More illegal activity.
01:51:07.600 Same energy.
01:51:08.560 I never proposed banning guns.
01:51:11.200 I never proposed suddenly banning guns.
01:51:12.800 That was never my claim or anything like that.
01:51:13.760 But you're doing things that are a slippery slope towards banning guns.
01:51:15.300 I just said I wouldn't want to date a guy who owned a gun because owning a gun is a slippery slope.
01:51:19.920 Yes, so you wouldn't want to date a guy.
01:51:21.780 You're making it more and more restricted as to what you can access.
01:51:24.340 Back in the day, people were able to own whatever they wanted to.
01:51:27.700 So you're not for banning guns, but you don't want a gun yourself.
01:51:31.960 So you want everybody else to have access to a gun except yourself.
01:51:34.280 Seems a little bit odd.
01:51:35.360 I never said I want everyone else other than myself to have access to a gun.
01:51:38.060 I just said I don't personally want one in my household.
01:51:40.400 I've primarily said for the same reasons as her.
01:51:42.160 I just don't feel like it's the safest thing.
01:51:44.080 If you personally don't want to own a gun, same thing with abortion.
01:51:46.460 Why don't you personally not own a gun and let everyone else own whatever they want?
01:51:50.280 I said that they can own whatever they want.
01:51:52.200 I just don't want one.
01:51:53.240 True.
01:51:53.580 Okay.
01:51:53.920 Also, I'm surrounding myself within a community of people who don't.
01:51:57.580 We weren't talking about Second Amendment.
01:51:58.680 We were talking about do we have a gun, do we want a gun.
01:52:00.840 That's what we were talking about.
01:52:01.540 Or would you date someone?
01:52:02.340 And again, the Second Amendment doesn't say everyone should carry a gun.
01:52:05.000 It says you have the right if you want to.
01:52:07.520 So how exactly do you think your man's going to protect you if you don't want him to have a gun?
01:52:11.220 Protect me from what?
01:52:11.600 I said I want to live in California.
01:52:12.820 I want to live in areas where people come around.
01:52:13.480 I'm just saying, there's not gun violence in California.
01:52:15.680 Are you kidding?
01:52:16.860 How is he going to defend you?
01:52:18.800 If you want him to defend you.
01:52:20.060 You're a sitting duck?
01:52:20.780 Is he going to put you in front?
01:52:22.680 What's the scenario?
01:52:23.680 Technically, when it comes to men, I'm pretty sure you think my man is Batman, and that's crazy.
01:52:28.600 Technically, the thing is that it doesn't matter if the man is going to protect you.
01:52:32.080 Guns are the great equalizer, technically, for women, where it's like you don't have to necessitate physical violence.
01:52:36.820 You have an automatic death rate.
01:52:37.920 That's not really true, though.
01:52:39.040 That's not really true.
01:52:40.220 like guns aren't actually the equalizer between the sexes what's your logic i mean well because
01:52:45.780 men are better men with guns are always going to be able to overpower women with guns just because
01:52:54.200 of physical force and because of their ability to handle a firearm better correct but if you're at
01:52:59.820 a distance you have a better aim at being able to make it more equal no like it doesn't matter
01:53:05.280 like it helps it helps i'm just men have better reaction time as well they do have better
01:53:09.560 but it's just a point second so it's like if that point second is really what matters okay the men
01:53:14.640 is going to win but typically it's not just a point second typically women can use guns when
01:53:18.720 they're being assaulted they have it in their purse yeah and they're able to pull out and
01:53:21.820 like shoot an assailant who doesn't know that they're armed i mean you need to when you own a
01:53:26.320 gun you you have to learn like guns at weapon safety weapon safety you need to learn de-escalation
01:53:31.520 tactics you don't just go straight for the shot yes you do yes that's the thing that with women
01:53:37.140 well that's true but the thing is that when it comes to police officers to your point
01:53:45.140 female officers if they're like in a violent encounter they are more likely to shoot you
01:53:50.460 so it's like i'm not risking my life if you got a gun i'm pulling it out i'm sorry
01:53:55.280 What did Riley just say earlier?
01:53:57.160 Women are more stressed or more emotional.
01:54:00.480 What happened?
01:54:00.980 I said, what did Riley say earlier?
01:54:02.440 That women are more stressed or more emotional.
01:54:05.100 Men are better at dealing with stress in a situation.
01:54:07.000 So I think, yeah, the men would definitely be more powerful with a gun.
01:54:09.020 Also, I wanted to ask you, so you said that you probably don't need a gun
01:54:11.460 because you live in California and it's a little crime, right?
01:54:14.040 Well, like the area of California that I would live in as well.
01:54:16.580 Okay, okay.
01:54:16.980 What if you lived in Compton?
01:54:17.480 I keep talking about it.
01:54:18.440 I wouldn't live in Compton, Peter.
01:54:19.440 Why not?
01:54:20.200 What about the women who live in Compton?
01:54:21.840 Why are you using your privilege over them?
01:54:23.140 Yeah, why wouldn't you live in Compton?
01:54:24.680 It's just not an area that appeals to me.
01:54:26.140 Why?
01:54:26.420 And this is why you talk with me.
01:54:27.480 Because there are other areas that appeal more to me.
01:54:28.940 No, but why does Compton not appeal to you?
01:54:31.060 I don't know much about Compton.
01:54:31.800 It's lower class.
01:54:33.380 Right.
01:54:33.740 So you don't know much about Compton.
01:54:34.660 But we're racist.
01:54:35.240 Why does it not appeal to you if you don't know much about it?
01:54:36.860 What do you know about Compton?
01:54:38.060 Why would I say it?
01:54:39.260 Can you tell me the one thing you know about Compton?
01:54:40.940 Everyone's racist by me.
01:54:41.340 I don't know much about Compton.
01:54:42.500 I'm just guessing it's not as, like, well off.
01:54:44.660 Why would you say that?
01:54:46.360 Because you're bringing it up.
01:54:47.340 We all know.
01:54:47.960 We all know what the answer is.
01:54:49.220 consciously, psychically.
01:54:51.660 It's a black neighborhood.
01:54:53.020 I mean, the race of the neighborhood is not a big deal to me.
01:54:55.880 Why would you live in Compton then?
01:54:58.060 Because there are areas that I would rather live.
01:54:59.900 Oh, like which areas?
01:55:01.020 Like the Bay Area?
01:55:02.180 Oh, white area?
01:55:02.880 The predominantly white affluent area?
01:55:05.400 That's why you don't know anything about immigrants.
01:55:06.880 It's just because you don't live around them.
01:55:08.780 Why are you defending immigrants when you don't want to live around them?
01:55:11.260 It's like you don't want them in your own neighborhood, but you're wanting them in the country.
01:55:13.860 That's actually what most of the gun crimes are.
01:55:16.680 I wouldn't live in the Bay because it's white.
01:55:18.320 I would live in it
01:55:18.880 because it's like
01:55:19.360 a very nice area
01:55:20.340 why is it nice
01:55:21.240 why is it nice
01:55:22.040 it's because
01:55:23.300 it's a white neighborhood
01:55:24.100 I'll tell you that right now
01:55:24.940 it's not
01:55:25.380 do you think I just have
01:55:26.480 some like affinity
01:55:27.480 and love for white people
01:55:28.520 so explain to me
01:55:29.260 why it's white
01:55:29.660 well obviously you don't
01:55:30.620 you're trying to betray them
01:55:31.340 explain to me why it's a nice neighborhood
01:55:32.260 the question was
01:55:32.980 there's great schools
01:55:34.040 there's great like
01:55:35.400 no but what makes them nice
01:55:36.980 you're being circular
01:55:37.620 there's great opportunities
01:55:38.920 like I grew up there
01:55:39.900 exactly
01:55:40.340 you're being circular
01:55:42.760 women do this a lot
01:55:43.940 why is it a nice area
01:55:45.320 get to the root of it
01:55:46.220 stop Riley
01:55:46.580 it's true
01:55:47.880 I mean, I grew up there, so there's a lot of places there that I like.
01:55:50.760 So you're affluent.
01:55:51.720 I am affluent, correct.
01:55:53.340 That's why you don't know anything that we're talking about.
01:55:55.800 Because you don't live around it.
01:55:57.200 Literally.
01:55:57.580 She's talking about welfare for people that aren't even belong to the country.
01:56:00.260 Would I not want to live in an affluent area?
01:56:02.060 Who's giving up welfare, the working class?
01:56:03.060 Doesn't everyone want to live in an affluent area if they can do it?
01:56:05.500 But why?
01:56:05.980 Yeah, so that's not race-based.
01:56:07.060 That's economy-based.
01:56:08.220 But at least people who are not in the affluent circles have reality.
01:56:11.640 They have point of view perspective as to the real world.
01:56:13.780 So are you just criticizing me for being affluent?
01:56:15.320 The entire world is affluent and that it works on their path.
01:56:17.140 I don't think that.
01:56:17.860 No, we're just criticizing you because you don't know the world, but you are young.
01:56:21.840 But you look down on people who say things like, I don't think we should have illegal
01:56:25.360 immigration because you live nowhere near them.
01:56:27.060 I said I wasn't for illegal immigration either.
01:56:29.440 I said I wasn't for illegal immigration.
01:56:31.360 She did say she would deport them.
01:56:32.460 That's actually my criticism.
01:56:32.880 I said I was fine with deportation with the minimum physical force necessary.
01:56:36.900 I said illegal immigration is not a good thing.
01:56:38.720 I said it should be prevented in the first place.
01:56:40.580 But you're putting words into my mouth, twisting my worldviews, and strawmanning me over and
01:56:45.240 over again.
01:56:45.780 Should they get welfare?
01:56:46.180 and when i take sure they get welfare no oh okay then we agree oh my god your voice is annoying
01:56:51.860 as hell okay that's great you're being racist against a half puerto rican why are you bigotting
01:56:55.080 why are you so bigoted how is that no not puerto rican it's just you oh no no no no that's fine
01:57:00.820 oh i'm introverted compared to them so it's really just a cultural thing right
01:57:04.340 the question was literally would she date somebody and the whole point this is an eight-hour podcast
01:57:09.780 you have to talk about the subjects we have plenty of time to put words in my mouth
01:57:13.620 i would prefer to date a man who owns guns i like i that i want to but just because she said she
01:57:20.880 would prefer not to doesn't you're just totally putting words in her mouth we moved faster we
01:57:25.120 were asking all the way around basically and then there was the whole denial of like no i think
01:57:29.300 you're putting words in her mouth i don't think so i can't keep track of what she says because
01:57:32.520 she says and then takes it back so i can't i can keep talking what i what i say you can't because
01:57:36.560 Because you guys keep twisting the things I say.
01:57:37.860 Can you please give me an example of when we twisted something or when we ended up moving the goalposts?
01:57:42.080 When you said I was for illegal immigration.
01:57:43.940 You were defending it during the first part.
01:57:45.860 When I said that I was for deportation.
01:57:47.780 When I said that I was for.
01:57:49.060 Oh, my God.
01:57:49.600 She ended the argument with, I'm not for it.
01:57:52.500 And that's why we're having a hard time keeping up.
01:57:53.880 That's the whole point of a conversation is to get to the point of agreement.
01:57:55.640 She does kind of keep on changing what she says.
01:57:57.580 She does.
01:57:57.840 What did I say about illegal immigration?
01:57:58.980 She's really what she wants.
01:57:59.740 Can you remember?
01:58:00.180 I've got to be honest.
01:58:01.700 I wasn't paying attention.
01:58:03.020 Okay, cool.
01:58:03.620 I said that I.
01:58:04.260 Yeah, because this is like circles.
01:58:05.820 i also like probably because her voice is drowning it out god damn at the end of the day all you have
01:58:10.800 is my voice because you're not speaking up for your own point of view you have no articulation
01:58:13.960 when it comes to your own point of view so my articulated earlier that was the last way what
01:58:17.380 i think that was the last thing i said you actually want to be condescending this entire time i don't
01:58:21.700 i actually disagree with that but honestly she snickered at me for something i said we're on
01:58:25.780 different pages but i don't think she's been honestly i'm not gonna lie i think honestly i
01:58:32.220 I think Hannah is just like the quintessential sweet feminine girl who, whenever someone
01:58:37.000 gets dogpiled, she just has to defend them.
01:58:38.960 She's just like, I can't tolerate this.
01:58:40.740 At least you can acknowledge the dogpiling.
01:58:43.060 Nothing.
01:58:43.520 That's what I'm saying.
01:58:44.100 I'm flattering you.
01:58:44.960 I'm saying that you have good attributes.
01:58:46.000 I don't support that.
01:58:47.300 But at the same time, logically speaking, this is not the case.
01:58:49.560 Everyone here is saying that she's been moving the goalpost.
01:58:51.060 What's a bigger net benefit on the world?
01:58:52.940 You being nice to her or her making a great argument and changing tens of thousands of
01:58:56.480 people's minds on this podcast?
01:58:57.820 I think it's great to make a great argument, but I think if you really want to make a great
01:59:01.340 argument you need to actually talk and like have some type like you guys are just yelling yeah
01:59:07.200 to be completely if you really want to learn how to communicate with somebody you actually
01:59:12.760 you need to also be open to listening to hear her yeah you keep just speaking over her you keep
01:59:17.740 bashing and her opinions out but like do you hear your tone even now like and i'm being so serious
01:59:22.200 she called me hostile by the way like before the podcast started as opposed to and now she's
01:59:26.520 And by the way, I've been speaking on the same tone this whole time.
01:59:29.980 I'm going to make this very clear.
01:59:31.460 When it comes to feminine dialogue, which I appreciate and should be promoted,
01:59:36.060 when it comes to feminine dialogue, which I think should be encouraged and promoted,
01:59:39.580 Hannah is the best example of someone trying to facilitate a kind dialogue.
01:59:43.720 And you're the worst.
01:59:44.200 When it comes to political subjects, which actually proves the point,
01:59:46.900 when it comes to political subjects, you enter the masculine aggressive field because policy matters.
01:59:51.440 So when you're going to talk about policy, as you've been doing, you have to expect a masculine energy.
01:59:56.120 Do I have a masculine energy right now?
01:59:58.160 Of course, it's not feminine
01:59:59.300 But at the end of the day, if women have the right to vote
02:00:01.100 If women are politicized, this is what you should expect
02:00:03.520 And if you can't handle it, get out of the kitchen
02:00:06.300 Okay, I'm not
02:00:07.200 Get out of the kitchen
02:00:08.460 To be fair, you were asking her questions
02:00:12.540 And then as soon as she got half a sentence out
02:00:14.620 You'd talk over her
02:00:15.520 You have to also give space for people to give their full
02:00:19.040 That's fair
02:00:20.120 That's what I was told
02:00:21.480 And by the way, like three of them at once
02:00:23.100 Do you list me an example of when I interrupted her?
02:00:26.120 because I do recall
02:00:26.920 giving her the time
02:00:27.600 I'm not going to give examples
02:00:30.560 let's not get into a meta conversation about
02:00:33.060 who interrupted who when
02:00:35.400 just make the correction
02:00:36.880 Joshua, to be anti-gun is to be anti-woman
02:00:39.540 thank you for the big super chat Joshua
02:00:41.020 very much, appreciate it
02:00:43.860 well I mean like some women can't defend themselves
02:00:45.560 how would you defend yourself
02:00:47.200 are you asking me if I hate women
02:00:48.360 what if a woman is walking alone home at night
02:00:50.960 and a man comes up to them and tries to rape them
02:00:53.000 they don't have a firearm
02:00:54.080 they cannot defend themselves against the man
02:00:56.020 That's what that statement means.
02:00:57.840 What do they do in that situation?
02:00:59.100 What should the woman do?
02:01:00.060 Yeah, what should the woman do?
02:01:00.900 I mean, ideally not be walking out at night, but then call the police, like, try and get away from this individual as far as possible.
02:01:06.020 Okay.
02:01:06.600 Are you slut-shaming?
02:01:07.900 They shouldn't be walking around at night?
02:01:09.340 That's not slut-shaming.
02:01:10.380 I would put the blame in this scenario on the man who's trying to...
02:01:14.960 Well, no, of course, yeah.
02:01:16.000 The man is fully at fault, but it still is a reality that if a woman's walking alone home at night at, like, midnight...
02:01:21.280 How is that slut-shaming her?
02:01:22.700 I'm saying it's not safe to do that because there exist people who do that.
02:01:25.340 So you're saying they shouldn't do that?
02:01:26.760 Well, it may not be safe.
02:01:27.500 What if they're working, what if they didn't come from a rich family like you did, and
02:01:31.240 they're working like an eight-hour shift at her Mexican restaurant, right?
02:01:34.820 I'm not Mexican, I'm vegan.
02:01:36.360 Really?
02:01:37.080 Really?
02:01:37.520 I'm vegan.
02:01:38.540 So what if there's some like nine out of ten, like Latina working at a restaurant, very
02:01:42.700 pretty, very prone to rape, walking home at night because she can't afford a car like
02:01:45.700 you have a car, right?
02:01:46.560 Is there public transport?
02:01:47.260 From a rich family.
02:01:48.520 Not all places have trouble with public transport.
02:01:50.220 Or even a guy got stabbed in the throat in public transport.
02:01:51.400 Yes, exactly.
02:01:52.000 So how would a woman defend herself if she's on public transport where there's all these
02:01:54.920 brown and black illegal immigrants on the public transport.
02:01:58.320 No, it's not. Not now.
02:01:59.500 Because most people on public transport are poor,
02:02:01.240 which means they have a higher chance of committing crime.
02:02:02.800 So you think a woman on a bus going home is more likely to get stabbed?
02:02:06.560 Have you been on a bus than someone walking home at night?
02:02:08.620 Have you been on a bus?
02:02:09.520 Oh, no, no, no. Walking home at night, probably equal chance.
02:02:11.700 You wouldn't know because you're not taking it.
02:02:13.600 But yes, they get violated the most.
02:02:15.580 There's no control.
02:02:16.720 The Ukrainian girl got killed by an immigrant.
02:02:18.480 Literally, there's no one patrolling it anymore because they just gave up.
02:02:21.080 I use public transport every day, by the way.
02:02:22.980 Because I know you said I never take it.
02:02:24.140 100% in the Bay Area.
02:02:25.440 In which city?
02:02:26.740 Well, here, but I'm still saying I take public transport.
02:02:28.240 Really? Okay.
02:02:29.160 I thought you just said your area was nice.
02:02:30.640 You just have to be spatially aware.
02:02:32.200 I thought you said your area was nice.
02:02:33.320 If you're spatially aware, why wouldn't you walk at night if your area was nice?
02:02:37.420 I take the bus here because it's faster to get to school.
02:02:39.920 What about the 22-year-old, 9 out of 10 Latina, working at a restaurant, maybe her vegan restaurant,
02:02:46.380 walking home at night, has to walk a mile after their 8-hour shift from 4 to midnight.
02:02:50.500 They're walking home at night.
02:02:51.260 How do they defend themselves?
02:02:52.260 Or they take public transport.
02:02:53.380 There's all these illegal immigrants on there
02:02:55.060 Obviously that's not an ideal scenario
02:02:57.960 But I can hope she can carry pepper spray
02:02:59.920 Call the police
02:03:00.560 The people saying it's really rare
02:03:05.240 To get involved with gun runs
02:03:07.020 I'm from Flint, Michigan
02:03:09.020 If she wants to own a gun
02:03:12.040 She can do that
02:03:12.640 Before I join the Marines
02:03:14.260 I'm from Flint, Michigan
02:03:15.700 I'm not against the second amendment
02:03:18.740 So you admit that your personal experience
02:03:21.340 of where you live that is what makes you feel
02:03:23.420 I never even said I was against the second event
02:03:25.080 well not only that globally speaking the world is very
02:03:27.160 violent towards women the western nations is the only
02:03:29.200 place where women have any similitude or illusion
02:03:31.060 of safety but we're losing that quickly because
02:03:33.200 we're importing the entire world here
02:03:35.380 but they don't have feminist values
02:03:36.880 they look at women and they're like oh they're weak
02:03:39.140 we're going to go attack them and take what is ours
02:03:41.260 so it's like yes globally
02:03:43.240 speaking the safety pockets for women
02:03:45.220 are limited
02:03:46.280 and having a gun equalizes it
02:03:49.160 more it gives us a chance
02:03:50.860 Even if it's not perfect, it gives us a chance.
02:03:52.680 I never said a woman couldn't own a gun.
02:03:54.460 We're not talking about that.
02:03:55.300 You're saying how, oh, well, what about the situation?
02:03:56.760 What are you asking me then?
02:03:57.880 What are you asking me then?
02:03:59.020 Oh, no, there was like a piggyback of conversation.
02:04:00.740 You're not the central character.
02:04:01.200 This entire podcast, you have been so wishy-washy.
02:04:03.200 Can you please state your values on gun control, on immigration?
02:04:05.560 Gun control?
02:04:06.040 You've been so wishy-washy, yeah.
02:04:07.020 I'm not against the Second Amendment.
02:04:08.420 If you want to own a gun in the U.S., go ahead and do that.
02:04:11.780 I do, however, I don't have an exact solution,
02:04:13.680 hope something can be done about the amount of gun violence
02:04:16.500 and school shootings in America.
02:04:17.940 That's my take of it.
02:04:18.300 To impose regulation for gun owners?
02:04:20.340 But why don't you talk about neighborhood shootings?
02:04:21.760 If it could help, then yeah.
02:04:23.260 But why is there...
02:04:24.080 Hold on, hold on.
02:04:24.540 If I knew...
02:04:25.540 You guys got to only ask her one question at a time.
02:04:27.540 You can't bombard her with three questions in a row.
02:04:30.220 One question at a time.
02:04:31.460 If you told me right now that implementing gun regulation would lower the collective rate of gun violence in the U.S., then I would say yes, I'm for that.
02:04:38.760 So if you lower the gun violence in the United States, you would be for that policy?
02:04:41.920 if it and if that result was completely clear because like people say like oh this regulation
02:04:46.540 still might lead to this amount of gun violence and it might not work i'm not for that but if i
02:04:50.480 know that you would be maximizing the amount of safety in this country and there would be less
02:04:54.320 gun violence i would be for that so you would deport black people back to africa let me get
02:04:58.120 this straight that's very racist of you we're talking about gun regulation no but you're talking
02:05:02.360 about gun violence actually gun violence murder rates are committed by 60 of african americans
02:05:07.480 you remove them from the equation you get equal safety levels as europe if you want to be more
02:05:11.380 specific on that it's actually like 55 percent of gun violence there's many like there's many
02:05:15.400 reasons that that's the case that go back for white people like it's literally like thousands
02:05:19.300 of years and how many more white people are in the united states than black people you don't
02:05:22.840 understand you're arguing against your case in this case i'm not arguing against my case 57 of
02:05:27.980 the country is white 15 of the gun violence rate is white 60 of gun violence is committed by black
02:05:34.160 people 13 of the country is black you're arguing against your why do you think that is though
02:05:38.660 Why do you think black people commit more crimes?
02:05:40.420 For Brian's sake, I'm not going to go into it.
02:05:42.280 You should say your opinions.
02:05:44.220 For the same reason, Africa is also equally as violent.
02:05:47.840 Yeah, wait, black people weren't enslaved in Africa to the rate that they were in America.
02:05:51.460 Why does Africa have higher crime rates than blacks in America do?
02:05:53.900 Because of colonialism.
02:05:55.120 Colonialism?
02:05:55.660 Wait, wait, what about Ethiopia, who defeated Italy?
02:05:58.040 Why do people migrate here?
02:05:59.440 They were never colonized.
02:06:00.200 They were probably still subject to effects of colonialism.
02:06:03.940 I don't know the history of Ethiopia.
02:06:04.940 I can't talk about Ethiopia.
02:06:05.280 I do have to move things on a little bit here.
02:06:07.140 But, Shona, is anybody here in favor of reparations?
02:06:12.200 Hell no.
02:06:13.700 Reparations to African-Americans?
02:06:15.820 I don't think reparations is the correct solution, no.
02:06:18.820 No, okay.
02:06:19.780 Because we do have two African-Americans here.
02:06:23.300 If anybody wants to give them cash.
02:06:26.600 I think money should be put.
02:06:27.400 I'll take the cash.
02:06:28.400 If anybody wants to give them cash.
02:06:30.060 Never say no.
02:06:30.600 I mean, rather than cash.
02:06:31.660 Do you have any cash on you?
02:06:32.720 Do you want to maybe give?
02:06:33.720 No, but no.
02:06:33.920 If you put money into, like.
02:06:35.020 Look, see, she's ready.
02:06:36.100 She's ready for it.
02:06:36.840 I'm for putting money into low-income
02:06:40.700 predominantly black areas, though.
02:06:42.780 Let's do this here while we do...
02:06:45.300 You know what?
02:06:46.580 Some of these topics have gone a bit political,
02:06:48.740 but we can bring in a little dating.
02:06:51.640 It's still probably going to get political on this.
02:06:53.540 Oh, my gosh, the dating.
02:06:54.280 Yeah, I thought we were talking about dating.
02:06:55.740 I didn't even know my story made a headline here,
02:06:58.460 so here we go.
02:06:59.240 Yeah, so...
02:06:59.940 Who deported the...
02:07:01.020 Wait, hold on, hold on.
02:07:02.300 Stop, stop, stop.
02:07:03.480 Okay, so...
02:07:04.760 do you think dating right uh well let me ask riley a question riley can you date a uh a trans
02:07:11.900 no woman no no do you uh question is it do you think it's straight for a man to date a trans
02:07:22.240 woman i mean technically yeah technically yes before we respond but i understand why it's not
02:07:29.260 everyone's preference it's okay fair let's what was the question i just asked it is it is it
02:07:36.260 straight heterosexual for a man say riley here uh not that he would uh to date a transgender woman
02:07:45.440 no that's gay that's gay okay um if they're fully transitioned then no but yes so you're saying if
02:07:52.540 they're post-op uh they have the neo neo vagina then yeah that would be heterosexual is that what
02:08:01.120 you're saying straight it would be straight it's a literal inverted penis but before we dive in
02:08:06.740 uh your thoughts no it's not straight it is it would be gay it is your position yeah okay what
02:08:13.540 do you think gay gay okay i think that if you're dating a trans person i feel like and you know
02:08:19.300 that they're a trans person it puts you on some type of spectrum okay so maybe bisexual yeah you
02:08:25.660 might say but would they be strictly straight i don't think they'd be strictly straight okay
02:08:30.740 absolutely not okay what do you think gay gay gay gay homosexual gay i have a question i wouldn't
02:08:38.760 date a man who i have a question dated a trans yeah hold on okay you would view a trans man as
02:08:45.040 a woman right no trans man as a woman that's misogyny yes right okay so then as a straight man
02:08:51.160 would it not then be like straight for you to kiss that trans man they would be straight of me to do
02:08:57.240 that okay i was just curious about that yeah also another thing what was your definition that's
02:09:00.420 consistent under your worldview and so when what was your answer to this question again i just want
02:09:05.280 you to restate it she said you said that it was straight you said that it would be straight right
02:09:09.680 Can I ask you, what is being straight?
02:09:11.980 Being attracted to the opposite gender.
02:09:14.040 Being normal.
02:09:14.420 Okay.
02:09:14.740 Or what about the opposite sex?
02:09:16.740 I said gender.
02:09:17.760 Okay, you said gender.
02:09:18.560 Okay.
02:09:18.940 Okay, what is gender?
02:09:20.440 Gender is like, well, I think I would have to come up with a definition more in detail.
02:09:24.140 Yeah, you'd have to come up with a lot of shit to excuse that.
02:09:26.020 Can you say, I think you automatically lose the argument?
02:09:29.180 Not really.
02:09:29.960 Yeah.
02:09:30.440 Okay, what is...
02:09:30.880 You don't think about your opinions before you say them?
02:09:32.740 Let's make it real simple here.
02:09:34.300 Can you tell me what is a woman?
02:09:35.800 i'd say it's like a it's it's like a social it's a social identity mapped onto a bio biological
02:09:43.920 reality that is so misogynistic that same definition can't i use that same definition
02:09:48.020 for a man not really because the social identity that i mentioned like has no what was the social
02:09:55.400 identity that you mentioned because you never mentioned one that encompasses like what is
02:09:58.420 considered like like feminine down like not just feminine but like is she feminine she has short
02:10:03.280 hair no but there's probably like characteristics of being a woman that she could identify with
02:10:09.420 okay just because you identify with characteristics you're saying because she has short hair she's
02:10:13.120 masculine yeah that is low iq i just had this conversation with my nephew he's six and i had
02:10:19.440 to explain to him that men can have long hair and women can have short hair it doesn't make you the
02:10:24.440 opposite doesn't make you feminine or masculine yeah and it's just quite misogynistic okay then
02:10:28.760 There's something else.
02:10:30.340 I would even say feminine traits, but for example,
02:10:32.560 I'm a cisgender woman,
02:10:34.960 but if I was secretly cis women...
02:10:36.860 There's no cis.
02:10:38.140 Don't demean us. That's massage.
02:10:40.120 I asked, what is a woman? You said somebody who
02:10:42.540 essentially has feminine characteristics or traits.
02:10:44.000 Well, you're asking me about those characteristics.
02:10:45.500 What are they? Tell me something.
02:10:47.040 You know how hard we...
02:10:47.880 You just said that there's no characteristics,
02:10:51.840 and she's saying that to be a woman...
02:10:53.220 I was about to elaborate what the traits are.
02:10:55.500 Wait, let's hear it. What are feminine characteristics?
02:10:58.020 I was, okay, can I clarify?
02:10:59.660 When I say, like, characteristics, it's about, like,
02:11:01.700 it's about your place in society, how you're perceived,
02:11:04.100 the treatment you receive.
02:11:05.120 So, for example, regardless of my biology,
02:11:07.460 like, I am society.
02:11:09.400 I act as and I am treated as a woman.
02:11:11.520 And, like, there's a wide scope that goes, like, within that.
02:11:15.200 But, like, I'm treated as a woman.
02:11:17.100 I am perceived as a woman.
02:11:18.560 I exist in society.
02:11:19.680 And I move through society as a woman.
02:11:21.280 Because you're a woman.
02:11:22.400 You haven't named a single feminine characteristic.
02:11:24.460 You're just like, oh, the way you get treated by society
02:11:25.980 and the way you're thought of.
02:11:26.760 like what is a feminine characteristic well there's like aesthetic implications no no name it
02:11:30.980 describe it well it's it's not so black and white like there's not key like okay you said like
02:11:36.160 let her let her finish your answer i mean i wouldn't say there's like a certain like fixed
02:11:40.900 like characteristic that every woman has aside from sex but like like as i said like like
02:11:46.640 identifying with like i like being treated as a woman's society like dating wise or like with
02:11:53.600 like the way you want to present yourself there's like if someone wants to identify with those
02:11:57.700 social characteristics then i believe that you have yet to name a single feminine characteristic
02:12:02.580 or trait not a single one in fact the example was oh you're masculine because you have short hair
02:12:07.920 when he never said that in fact there was words being put into his mouth for that so for all of
02:12:11.660 the argument of words being put in it's actually generalizing too like there are super flamboyant
02:12:15.900 gay men who do not identify as women that does not make them women they're just flamboyant and
02:12:19.880 they're treated as women because they're the boss man is a woman is very misogynistic if we go back
02:12:24.320 to brown versus border education there's something about being a man that they can probably still
02:12:27.560 identify with if okay just because you identify with something doesn't make you that i can identify
02:12:32.840 as a duck am i a duck well when it comes to gender which i think is something that was why is it just
02:12:36.880 gender can i can i say hey i'm black i'm a black woman can i you're gonna ask her a question you
02:12:41.780 do oh you ask your mind okay all right if you're gonna ask her a question you gotta let her actually
02:12:45.540 answer the question okay i just think when it comes to gender like i'm not gonna sit here and
02:12:49.320 trying to invalidate like what someone chooses to identify with okay so you have no definition
02:12:54.360 for woman at all i already gave it initially off the bat but we should go we should go on i like
02:12:59.840 i started off with a definition but uh what is a woman i said it's like a social it's it's a social
02:13:05.540 construct mapped onto a biological reality hey knock it off please repeat yourself a social
02:13:11.560 construct mapped onto a biological reality a female adult with a vagina that can give birth
02:13:18.100 okay oh yeah uterus wait what if a woman's infertile why are you making that woman a man
02:13:25.660 by saying that she's infertile that's sexist against women because she has a medical problem
02:13:28.840 I mean she can I mean she can be infertile but yeah I mean a woman is someone that has a vagina
02:13:34.200 that has a clitoris that you know that basically was born with that genitalia what if a woman went
02:13:40.080 through a shark attack and she didn't have like anything why would that make her not a woman
02:13:43.600 a hypothetical is a good way to test your definition how many fingers does a human have
02:13:49.060 10 10 okay if somebody lost one of their fingers are they not a human anymore
02:13:52.580 no they're still a human okay so why would she not be a female anymore just because she went
02:13:57.100 through an accident well i'm saying she would i'm just checking with her because she said that
02:14:00.280 a vagina was a requirement it is it is she came to the correct answer in the same way in the same
02:14:07.000 way that you said not being a man that's for sure well i don't think that would be a man i'm just
02:14:11.000 saying like if suddenly the if you're a trans man let's get the answers from the rest of the
02:14:16.100 panelists you said you has a uterus okay generally a female adult female adult adult
02:14:24.340 human female with xx chromosomes okay someone with a vagina someone with a vagina what just
02:14:31.040 for clarification someone born with one excuse me born with a vagina okay same okay yeah i was
02:14:37.480 gonna say xx chromosomes all right same same same well you have the standard xx chromosomes in a
02:14:42.760 vagina but to be very legalistic about it i would say ovaries is the major requirement you would
02:14:47.840 need oh but what if she's born without ovaries no i'm just kidding that's dumb but that's yeah
02:14:53.540 what if she's intersex um you are never born with functioning ovaries and functioning testicles it
02:15:01.460 has never happened in human history ever you have one reproductive pathway if you that's it even if
02:15:06.500 you have like xxy chromosomes or you have xx chromosomes but like a crap ton of testosterone
02:15:11.100 or something you still will have either functioning ovaries or functioning testicles or it's never
02:15:15.180 been a human who produces both uh really quick we have a soup chat from rowey from our australian
02:15:19.460 friend i define her as a kent kent oh because he's australian is that to her character traits
02:15:27.620 i don't get it who's her i kind of get it i think he's oh wait hold on
02:15:33.420 too late i fucked elaborate uh thank you for your soup chat man very much appreciate it
02:15:38.440 um well shona i have a clarifying question here and i don't know if this is going to be helpful
02:15:42.760 but uh so you said that i will say regarding my definition of a woman like i would want more time
02:15:48.160 to kind of like solidify my worldview on it but as it stands i don't like invalidate the
02:15:52.580 invalidate the identity of someone who wants to like identify as a gender that they're not
02:15:56.680 born as are you a woman yes how do you know because like it's a part of my identity like
02:16:03.240 socially and then also like biologically which i acknowledged in my definition earlier and what
02:16:06.880 do you mean my biologically like my sex like my body like like i i i was born a woman like it's
02:16:16.400 my assigned sex at birth no but like like what part of your body though like what exactly makes
02:16:22.000 you a woman my chromosomes well i'm speaking i'm speaking to the biological aspect that you're
02:16:26.800 asking about and well i just don't want to like just like start using words like relating to
02:16:31.840 genitalia okay yeah yeah sure about which chromosomes xx or xy xx thank you but that's
02:16:38.360 just speaking to the biological aspect like i still like socially and in terms so if you can't
02:16:42.500 define a social definition maybe we should just stick with the physical definition of it i mean
02:16:47.620 aesthetically i like okay i'm not saying this is like a requirement for every woman out there but
02:16:52.480 like i like growing up like i was perceived as a woman and like that felt like a part of my identity
02:16:58.200 that felt correct to me i exist and i move through society as a woman that feels correct to me
02:17:02.480 like aesthetically i and also just interest wise i really like feminine things like that's just to
02:17:07.960 speak to like my social reality as a woman you invalidated the identity of undocumented immigrants
02:17:13.740 who identify as american immigrants but yet you're trying to not invalidate the identity of men
02:17:18.500 then and what did i say regarding immigrants that you're not trying you you want to invalidate the
02:17:25.660 identity of illegal immigrants who come here by saying they're not americans even though they
02:17:28.960 identify as such but you don't want to invalidate the identity of men who have perversions who
02:17:33.400 commit statistically way more violence against women because that hurts well if someone's illegal
02:17:37.100 here and they've spent their whole life here i don't think that like i i understand like the
02:17:41.800 on the need for deportation there but i think culturally in a lot of ways they still could
02:17:46.040 be american so i didn't even completely invalidate that yeah hold on let me do a couple uh things but
02:17:50.400 we'll come back to this topic here in just a moment i don't think whether or not you're american
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02:19:50.940 get us to 2 000 likes uh i guess quick question shona on the trans topic um so you you think it
02:19:58.900 is straight for a man to date a trans woman that would be heterosexual i said yes but i understand
02:20:05.760 why like that attraction may not exist all the time because you can't help attraction even if
02:20:10.600 even if i like respect someone's identity for example i cannot help if i'm not attracted to
02:20:14.940 it well yeah but i mean you would see this even in opposite sex instances for example not all
02:20:21.800 uh males find all females attractive even if they're genuinely uh female or genuinely a woman
02:20:28.700 like not you you don't find all men attractive do you yeah right so it's i'm not really interested
02:20:35.280 in the preference component i'm just clarifying that right yeah yeah of course but um you do think
02:20:42.440 it would be straight like as a descriptor as a uh for your in terms of what you believe is to be
02:20:49.100 true you would say that a man dating a trans woman that is definitionally heterosexual
02:20:56.060 period yeah although i will say there's like a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to like
02:21:02.160 let's say someone who's transitioned but they've not made like that's only like something that
02:21:06.160 they've declared and they've not made any like um like physical transitions yet so let's say
02:21:11.020 let's say you picture like a man and then like you have a you have someone who was a man who just
02:21:16.320 decided they wanted to identify as a woman suddenly aesthetically you have like what maybe someone
02:21:21.500 would think is two men standing next to each other like obviously i'm trying to say let's say
02:21:25.760 let's say they're passing uh outwardly but they haven't had uh any sort of genitalia surgery
02:21:32.960 let's say that's straight that would be straight so just to be clear let me let me paint a picture
02:21:38.180 and you tell me if this sounds like a heterosexual act uh let's say you're outside an apartment
02:21:43.200 and uh a man walks by and this is going to seem super autistic but he says i am a cis i hate this
02:21:51.860 fucking term but i'm a cis man and i'm straight and he walks into the apartment and then uh you
02:21:57.820 see a trans woman go in and they disclose to you that they're trans by the way i don't know why
02:22:04.460 they would ever do this but for the sake of the hypothetical so they tell you they're trans huh
02:22:08.140 am i physically present here you said they're just you're you're like i don't know it's at
02:22:11.520 your dorm and you see them going into the dorm room or some shit a trans woman going to the
02:22:16.140 dorm room yeah not your dorm room another dorm room okay okay uh and maybe it's like across the
02:22:22.620 way so you can see into the window and you see that the cis man the man is performing oral sex
02:22:31.100 on the trans woman's penis would you describe this as a straight heterosexual act the sexual
02:22:38.520 act or like their sexual orientation hold on so i would still i would still call if a man
02:22:44.440 okay if a man a true man and a true woman are having sex you would agree that that's a heterosexual
02:22:50.380 act right i define the act by the people having it not exactly like what they're doing
02:22:55.420 okay so hold on so but my my question still stands you see a man so okay there's a trans woman who uh
02:23:05.700 it wouldn't look like the straightest thing to me but i would still call it straight so long as i
02:23:09.060 hold on let me finish all right all right so you have a uh the trans woman right so wig makeup fake
02:23:16.880 titties in a dress um playing a woman but does in fact have a massive schlong okay gigantic
02:23:25.180 fucking peen right all right huge peen one of the biggest congrats i guess uh why this is why you
02:23:31.540 need the i love big dick swag anyway all right irrelevant um so you then see the man performing
02:23:39.900 oral sex fellatio on the trans woman uh the trans woman's penis would you categorize this as a
02:23:50.640 heterosexual act technically yeah would it look that well technically yeah so technically it would
02:23:58.780 be heterosexual it would be straight to see a man sucking a penis that's straight to you okay
02:24:06.000 what i'm saying so wait and it's also really quick really quick also it's a it's a um the trans woman
02:24:13.720 is in possession of a penis do i have that correctly the woman has a penis
02:24:18.820 okay that's the question posed yes go ahead i would say yes although i'll say this image would
02:24:25.000 seem just as absurd absurd to me as like everyone else on this table like this is not something that
02:24:29.200 i would like be able to picture very well or i would kind of catch like i would wait wait how
02:24:33.040 could but i don't understand so you do acknowledge that there are plenty i don't know what the
02:24:36.620 breakdown is like my understanding is most trans people have intact penises like if you're a trans
02:24:42.140 woman what i'm trying to say is just because something doesn't like initially seem that
02:24:45.420 straight to me so long as i choose to respect these people's identity i'm still going to
02:24:48.960 consider you can respect their identity but i'm asking you if you were to witness such an act
02:24:53.220 would you ever categorize it as a heterosexual sexual act in the case that that woman that
02:24:59.520 trans woman identifies as a woman then yeah so you okay just to be clear it it's hetero it's
02:25:05.580 heterosexual for a man to suck a penis i mean suck a dick there's no women penises it's just vagina
02:25:11.980 like you're you're you're using like a slightly far-stretched hypothetical but i don't it's not
02:25:17.120 far-stretched. I'll call it straight.
02:25:19.360 It's not far-stretched. If it's not crazy
02:25:21.220 to you, I'll call it straight. But really quick, so I
02:25:23.080 guess my final thought on this. So straight
02:25:25.300 is short-form
02:25:27.480 slang for what? Heterosexual? I would
02:25:29.220 say straight defines the gender that you
02:25:31.160 are attracted to. But what does heterosexual
02:25:32.860 relate to? Isn't that a sexuality?
02:25:35.680 Well, so straight is
02:25:37.200 short-form slang for heterosexual.
02:25:39.440 When we're talking about sexuality,
02:25:41.100 it's baked into the term itself. We're
02:25:43.060 talking about your attraction
02:25:45.320 to the opposite sex.
02:25:47.120 It's not the opposite gender.
02:25:48.960 Hold on.
02:25:49.280 I would still understand that that man is perceiving the trans woman as a woman.
02:25:53.800 Just because you're perceiving something in some way doesn't mean it's true.
02:25:57.120 That's your orientation.
02:25:58.580 That plays into your orientation.
02:25:59.500 But when we're talking about sexuality, it's opposite sex.
02:26:03.020 Like if we're talking about heterosexual, that stands for opposite sex attraction.
02:26:07.640 It doesn't mean opposite gender attraction.
02:26:10.380 And what I would say is just because something doesn't make sense to me and I can't relate to it, if it makes sense to them, I'm going to respect it.
02:26:16.480 But why are we, as a society, forced to play make-believe with...
02:26:20.900 But it's their sexual interaction.
02:26:23.460 That's their sexual interaction.
02:26:24.400 What if I had a 13-year-old girlfriend who identified as 21?
02:26:26.840 So it doesn't affect you, is what I'm saying.
02:26:27.960 It does, actually.
02:26:28.680 I actually have a story about a transgender person that did something very terrifying to me,
02:26:32.440 so maybe you should keep your mouth shut.
02:26:33.860 I'm saying...
02:26:34.420 I actually am scared.
02:26:35.520 A sexual encounter between a trans woman and a man happening in private,
02:26:43.720 out of your way, does not affect you.
02:26:45.620 So it depends on how they think about it.
02:26:48.020 It depends on how they think about it.
02:26:49.620 Well, two things can be true.
02:26:50.740 You can say that you respect that, but also it's not a heterosexual act.
02:26:56.620 Yeah, exactly.
02:26:57.200 I think that's where it is.
02:26:57.780 I'm trying to figure out.
02:26:58.500 You can totally respect it, but at the end of the day, it's fine.
02:27:00.580 Well, I would say if I picture the sexual...
02:27:03.660 I'm not even trying to say picturing that act.
02:27:05.720 Let's say you're a woman, you're wearing a dildo or a strap-on or whatever,
02:27:09.120 and he's sucking on the strap-on, does that automatically make him gay?
02:27:12.400 That's a great point to bring up.
02:27:13.920 I think when a woman pegs a man, it's gay.
02:27:16.560 He's got some sort of gay tendencies.
02:27:18.980 It's not actually gay because he's still a woman.
02:27:20.400 I would argue against it.
02:27:21.400 I would say it's not gay because you're still with a woman.
02:27:23.420 It's a gay tendency, but it's not gay.
02:27:25.520 You have a gay tendency to talk to you.
02:27:28.540 Socially speaking, that could be a heuristic to come to that conclusion.
02:27:31.540 But ultimately, if he's not willing to do that with a man, then he still maintains the confines.
02:27:34.400 If he's willing to suck a plastic dick, he's a freaky guy, but he's still straight.
02:27:42.780 if he's doing it with a man a rubber penis spiritual that's a whole different other energy
02:27:47.720 that's a whole different other essence i agree with you i have picked a man yeah that's not
02:27:51.000 gay but it's freaky he wasn't gay how do you know but it's not gay like her system of defining this
02:27:56.000 is actually the same as mine because i'm saying it doesn't depend on like the sexual details of
02:27:59.360 what happening of what's happening even if it looks gay even if it looks straight we're talking
02:28:02.280 on the identity of the person what if what if a man is having sex with a 13 year old girl who
02:28:08.280 identifies as 21 it depends on the identity of the person yeah this is a slippery slope
02:28:12.520 Is a man
02:28:15.000 Having sex with a 13 year old girl
02:28:17.100 Is that pedophilia
02:28:17.800 But what if they think of it as she's actually older
02:28:21.020 Riley maybe we shouldn't talk about that
02:28:23.820 No no no
02:28:24.700 TOS
02:28:25.460 Terms of service
02:28:28.060 Please don't tell me I'm trying to find a scenario
02:28:30.700 Well it happens in other countries
02:28:32.680 Children marriage happens in other countries
02:28:35.420 And that sucks
02:28:36.100 But maybe they bring it over here
02:28:38.220 Maybe we should bring it over here
02:28:39.960 I never said we should bring it over here
02:28:41.900 Maybe we should restrain from the child narrative.
02:28:46.840 It's an easy point.
02:28:48.640 But I would say, honestly, when it comes to the whole trans woman narrative, the trans man narrative,
02:28:52.220 when it comes to a woman transitioning into a man, there are severe traumas that have not been assessed,
02:28:56.680 and she is doing permanent physical mutilation to her body.
02:28:59.020 If you're okay with that, then ten toes to the floor.
02:29:01.320 I think there should be an age minimum for any physical...
02:29:04.480 I don't think there's an age minimum.
02:29:05.940 I think across the board, you are mutilating your body.
02:29:08.280 It's a healthy body.
02:29:09.140 Why would a doctor who has a HIPAA compliance oath do that to someone?
02:29:12.820 If a man in his brain thought that his dog was an adult human female, would it be okay for that man to have sex with his dog?
02:29:20.660 No.
02:29:20.960 It's the same thing.
02:29:21.560 We're talking about human beings here.
02:29:23.140 Wait a minute.
02:29:24.120 What were you going to say?
02:29:25.500 I have a bit of a hot take because somebody brought up pegging.
02:29:29.900 I think that was me.
02:29:32.400 I think if you're a guy and you like getting pegged, it's kind of gay.
02:29:37.820 You're gay.
02:29:38.160 It's kind of gay.
02:29:39.140 I still think it's gay
02:29:43.640 even if it's a woman doing the pegging
02:29:45.360 I still think it's gay
02:29:46.200 I get it
02:29:47.520 but at the same time
02:29:49.940 if he was gay it's so easy
02:29:51.660 to do it with a man
02:29:52.760 it is so easy
02:29:53.940 and they do it with a man
02:29:55.740 on all fours getting pegged
02:29:58.180 I 100% agree it's weird
02:30:01.160 they're definitely going out and getting pegged by a man girl
02:30:03.880 to clarify
02:30:04.560 they feel like they're super machos
02:30:08.580 And it was a Mexican man, so he loved it.
02:30:11.440 They have to release attention somehow.
02:30:13.040 Wait, can I go back to this young lady's point?
02:30:16.120 That's weird.
02:30:17.220 No, but it's a thing.
02:30:19.340 Yeah, like if you're a straight man, like your brain, I don't think you would even go there.
02:30:22.280 Okay.
02:30:22.660 Or unless you're watching a lot of porn.
02:30:25.280 One at a time.
02:30:26.460 Can I go back to this?
02:30:27.780 What's your name?
02:30:28.460 I'm sorry.
02:30:28.980 Can I go back to your point?
02:30:30.240 Frankie.
02:30:30.940 Frankie just said, brought up a good point.
02:30:32.920 She said most people that transition end up committing.
02:30:36.560 Committing.
02:30:37.020 Okay.
02:30:37.200 And I want to delve into that real quick.
02:30:39.120 I used to work for a hormone specialist in Solana Beach, California,
02:30:41.560 and so I used to have to follow around and listen to everything.
02:30:44.360 What I learned from her is that hormones are the center of our health.
02:30:48.240 Doctors take a Hippocratic Oath, and in that Hippocratic Oath, it is what?
02:30:51.740 Do not, what is it, cause harm.
02:30:54.520 Hormones are the center of our health.
02:30:56.680 If our hormones, even if a woman who has PCOS or whatever.
02:30:59.360 Even if it's someone that's overweight.
02:31:00.540 Even if it's someone that's done prostitute.
02:31:01.740 It throws off our hormones, which throws off our thyroid.
02:31:04.260 This is not health care.
02:31:05.640 This is mutilating your body.
02:31:06.660 Now, if you want to dress up as a woman, by all means.
02:31:09.200 But to sit there and chop your reproductive system that regulates your hormones and to say that's health care, it's not.
02:31:15.480 It actually causes cancers, diabetes.
02:31:17.500 It increases mental health issues.
02:31:19.660 And if you want, I have a story about a trans person.
02:31:22.700 I have a personal story, and this is why I'm so passionate about it.
02:31:25.680 I was the victim to a trans person.
02:31:28.180 I was trying to be inclusive.
02:31:29.240 I was trying to be nice.
02:31:30.200 And it bit me in the ass.
02:31:31.340 this was a trans woman had everything but the bottom surgery looked like a man though i mean
02:31:37.620 like huge six four huge i wish i could pull out my phone and show a picture was a friend um he
02:31:44.460 would come over all the time and you know we'd smoke weed we were just like stoner friends
02:31:48.480 together or whatever well she i'll say now this person had my last name and his first name were
02:31:54.740 the same just keep that in the back of your mind one day he comes over he's drumming his fingers
02:31:59.480 and staring at me. He said, I have something I need to talk to you about. Now I'm working from
02:32:02.900 home. It's during COVID. I'm talking to my boss while I'm talking to my boss that I just felt this
02:32:08.260 like stare and I look over and the way he was looking at me and just drumming his fingers at
02:32:13.960 me. And I was genuinely terrified. So my cousin called after my meeting with my boss and I went
02:32:20.680 outside, came back in for all I knew Kelly was gone. Okay. And I was like, okay, thank God that
02:32:27.340 was so uncomfortable well i'm like working from home all of a sudden i get a this is when i live
02:32:33.480 in california a beating on the door and i look out and everyone knows that california cops you have
02:32:38.620 to be basically in the middle of murdering someone for them to even do anything so when i saw what i
02:32:42.100 saw my people it was terrifying so many cops so many um firefighters so many everything and i
02:32:48.960 opened the door and they said kelly and you're kind of talking a lot oh sorry you're okay but
02:32:54.880 That being said, as valid as a story is.
02:32:56.380 Can you land the plane real quick?
02:32:58.540 Okay, I said, I think you have the wrong person.
02:33:01.160 I shut the door.
02:33:02.100 They busted into the door.
02:33:04.720 Kelly was in my kid's room hiding
02:33:06.800 and called and said something very terrifying,
02:33:09.440 and that's why the cops pull out.
02:33:11.000 And I went into and found, like, they pulled him out,
02:33:14.680 put him in a 48-hour hold,
02:33:16.540 and I found a sack of every drug you can think of.
02:33:19.900 He was doctor hopping, mental health to the roof bad,
02:33:24.080 all the i mean hormones everything i mean that is not medical that's not medicine and most of
02:33:30.400 them are being treated this way well that's the thing you hate this this trans person because
02:33:33.480 they had a lot of hormones that were found i'm just checking what you said no because they were
02:33:37.920 hiding in my bedroom and and threatening to hurt me okay i understand they were on all these hormones
02:33:43.020 i was just checking yeah okay thank you you were being so condescending huffing and puffing at her
02:33:46.900 story do you respect i didn't help him puff at her story i was listening you have do you do you
02:33:50.820 respect men with porn addictions do i do you respect men with porn addictions no then why do
02:33:55.980 you respect trans women they're literally transitioning because they watch too much
02:33:58.900 porn that's everyone transitions because they watch too much porn i don't know what this
02:34:04.000 is they always transition because there's a link i don't know if it's saying that children
02:34:09.440 and autogynephilia is a real like reason so every trans person is a porn addict no she never said
02:34:16.520 a quarter of them used to be homosexual
02:34:20.160 and they usually transitioned because they had a terrible
02:34:22.480 relationship with their father once it became a trend
02:34:24.480 then typically incels started
02:34:26.520 trans maxing after watching enough pornography
02:34:28.480 and they started imagining themselves
02:34:30.420 having sex with women
02:34:31.740 if you actually look at the written work of
02:34:34.580 it's a trans woman
02:34:36.460 I can't remember their name but
02:34:37.780 basically the fantasy is
02:34:40.900 to be the one
02:34:42.500 getting fucked like that's how they
02:34:44.580 detail it and so
02:34:46.380 there there is like a kink aspect for some i don't know if it's all but like if you think about
02:34:53.040 the percentage of men who watch porn it kind of checks out because if you the way that porn
02:35:00.520 websites work is it starts you you know with something really simple and then the whole like
02:35:07.020 websites are designed to kind of like keep shoving you into different niches and i can see how men
02:35:12.180 could end up end up there watching that kind of content yep okay so that's just for male to female
02:35:17.660 what are we talking about for female to male they were traumatized they're usually victims of sexual
02:35:21.240 sexual assault another transgender or gay they like the majority of those trans people victims
02:35:26.400 of sexual assault like from the homosexual ones are liable it's like 60 of gay men are victims of
02:35:31.820 like csa when it comes to women most of them have had a traumatic physical experience in their
02:35:36.840 adolescence or childhood that's why they want to chop off and so that's the causation definitively
02:35:41.560 to you well i'm just curious because i've never read these claims because since it's becoming a
02:35:44.600 popular thing same thing i've never seen these statistics and i've never heard these claims
02:35:47.380 women hop on self-harm i don't know i've met a lot of trans people and this is not
02:35:51.100 you move the goalposts you're not really the greatest when it comes to having a grasp on
02:35:56.940 reality you use personal anecdotes earlier so i did not use any personal anecdotes you said that
02:36:00.920 that judgment against the hispanics didn't exist because you never faced it but anyway no
02:36:03.800 statistically speaking why would they come over if there's discrimination there is literally no
02:36:06.980 because they could still get a job you're the one using anecdotes saying oh they're discriminated
02:36:10.340 I'm talking about prejudice
02:36:11.260 You don't even have
02:36:12.320 Why don't they get a job
02:36:13.080 Why don't they get a job
02:36:14.160 In Mexico then
02:36:14.960 Because the job
02:36:16.280 In America
02:36:16.680 Probably pays you more
02:36:17.600 Why
02:36:17.920 Because we have
02:36:19.200 A better economy
02:36:19.840 Why is it better
02:36:20.600 We both have access
02:36:21.500 To the Pacific
02:36:22.080 And the Atlantic Ocean
02:36:23.060 Like what
02:36:23.900 What makes America better
02:36:24.780 They're closer
02:36:25.200 To the Panama Canal
02:36:25.900 Like every reason
02:36:27.140 That the American economy
02:36:28.060 Is better
02:36:28.420 Like just
02:36:29.080 No but why
02:36:29.740 It's just more
02:36:30.160 It's a more developed
02:36:30.940 What's the root of it
02:36:31.060 It's a more developed country
02:36:31.360 Why
02:36:31.600 What would you say
02:36:32.580 The root of it is
02:36:33.200 I would say that
02:36:34.040 Because most people here
02:36:35.620 Are European
02:36:36.160 Of European
02:36:37.620 So you think like
02:36:38.320 Just like
02:36:38.760 Like the phenotype
02:36:40.100 is what's associated with the amount of money generated.
02:36:42.160 The vast majority of the time.
02:36:42.740 What about the European phenotype
02:36:44.060 generates more money?
02:36:44.960 I'm curious.
02:36:45.720 I don't know.
02:36:46.520 I don't know either.
02:36:47.520 IQ, long-term thinking?
02:36:48.660 You're just saying you believe this,
02:36:49.560 but you don't know why.
02:36:49.940 Here's the thing.
02:36:50.320 Europeans, throughout the entirety of Europe,
02:36:52.940 they have to go through a hot summer, cold winter,
02:36:54.400 hot summer, cold winter.
02:36:55.340 If somebody is living off the coast of Nigeria
02:36:57.300 and the entire civilization is built
02:36:59.320 off the coast of Nigeria,
02:37:00.480 if you can call it a civilization,
02:37:01.920 they're just constantly at like 80 degrees nonstop.
02:37:04.220 They don't have to build a shelter.
02:37:05.960 They don't have to prepare for food.
02:37:06.940 A lot of people in Europe,
02:37:07.920 they'd have to prepare food for the winter.
02:37:09.740 build a good shelter for the winter. Then in the summer
02:37:11.780 it's hot. They have to figure out things. They have to go back and forth
02:37:13.760 with these things, which is why Europe and East Asia are
02:37:15.740 so developed. You're talking a lot.
02:37:19.400 Really?
02:37:20.120 Yeah, I was really nice.
02:37:21.920 I had to get that in. I was really nice
02:37:23.640 and didn't interrupt anyone for a decent bit of time.
02:37:26.140 And then it's like, wow.
02:37:27.260 And then you just had to do it to me.
02:37:29.380 I thought we were friends.
02:37:30.280 I do disagree with your point to an extent though, because I say that
02:37:33.860 there's different economic systems that have
02:37:35.800 helped in each nation. Each nation builds
02:37:37.800 their own economic system based on the cultural values.
02:37:40.240 I think that there's foreign international
02:37:41.840 elements that are subverting Africa,
02:37:44.060 that are subverting South America from their
02:37:45.800 natural economy.
02:37:47.100 But what about before globalization?
02:37:49.300 Bukele has made a perfect nation, but he was able to incarcerate
02:37:51.720 all the criminals, where before he wasn't allowed to
02:37:53.680 because the multinational corporations necessitated
02:37:55.500 Why did Africa never develop
02:37:57.540 before globalization, if that's your excuse?
02:37:59.420 That's the argument that I'm going to predate.
02:38:01.340 Before colonization, they were basically
02:38:03.680 fine doing whatever they had to do.
02:38:05.240 If you believe that people need to remain
02:38:07.280 and prosper within their own cultural homogeneity.
02:38:10.000 But then why not being fine remaining in Mexico?
02:38:11.980 Why exactly were Europeans, well, actually, it predates,
02:38:15.040 why exactly were Arabs going into Africa, subverting their nations
02:38:18.000 and using them as slave labor?
02:38:19.540 They were fine as is.
02:38:20.640 In fact, even South Africa is evidence of that.
02:38:22.540 When the Dutch were building their communities,
02:38:24.460 Rhodesia is also an example of that.
02:38:25.860 When the Dutch or the British were building their civilizations,
02:38:29.040 a lot of Africans remained in their tribal centers
02:38:31.020 in their allotted spaces.
02:38:32.780 They had their own maintenance.
02:38:34.060 They understood what their values were.
02:38:35.260 They understood what made them happy.
02:38:36.860 At the end of the day, it's really the Industrial Revolution that has messed everyone up, including our own country.
02:38:41.280 This is why we're criticizing the nature of our own economy, our own civilization.
02:38:44.760 Okay, so why do you think the Industrial Revolution happened between England and the United States, predominantly white countries?
02:38:49.400 Why didn't it happen in Africa?
02:38:50.940 There's actually a really interesting documentary pertaining to this called Guns, Germs, and Steel that has to do with the distribution of germs and bacteria, as well as where steel was found and who was able to invent guns.
02:38:59.720 So it's because Europeans lived in dense cities and stuff, and that's why there's disease that they built immunity to, right?
02:39:04.740 That's not what I said.
02:39:04.940 You just mentioned germs, and I'm assuming that references...
02:39:08.060 I don't want to have a whole conversation about it, but...
02:39:09.740 You stand on nothing.
02:39:11.440 You have a foundation of sand.
02:39:13.280 I have an argument for this.
02:39:14.840 I think it's all environmentally dictated.
02:39:18.000 So the reason why Africa...
02:39:19.040 Oh yeah, that's what I said, the environment.
02:39:20.380 The weather going back and forth.
02:39:21.680 The reason Africa didn't reach the Industrial Revolution
02:39:24.160 is because their environment gave them all of the resources.
02:39:27.500 When it comes to Asia, they had to be collectivists
02:39:29.360 because they all were working the rain...
02:39:31.040 What's it called?
02:39:32.000 The rain...
02:39:32.580 The rice farms.
02:39:33.440 The rice fields, rather.
02:39:34.120 when it comes to europe it's a wheat-based system so that's why they prioritize individualism when
02:39:37.880 it comes to the southern europeans they're mediterranean what how did how did we get off
02:39:41.140 first we were talking about porn and yeah and then and then men getting pegged by women and
02:39:46.380 now we're back what are we talking about right now it's a pretty long podcast i'm like we're
02:39:50.520 kind of honestly i'm just trying to figure out what we're talking about i don't know how we got
02:39:54.680 to this point honestly is your name angelico yes okay i wanted to ask you so as far as the
02:39:59.460 trans maxing do you think it's more about them trying to validate themselves no i honestly think
02:40:04.640 it's not even a validation i think there's no identity when it comes to particularly white men
02:40:08.060 in this country so they're seeking anything to basically get their bare minimum needs met which
02:40:12.020 is sex so if they're going to find sex easier by being a trans which is seemingly the most
02:40:16.540 socially promoted thing clearly then obviously they're going to go down that route but when it
02:40:21.080 comes to my argument is anyone who promotes this trans agenda are you willing to take responsibility
02:40:26.140 on for the surgical mutilations that they take
02:40:28.260 on, the way that they're going to propagate it onto children,
02:40:30.600 the fact that we have to tax-subsidize their surgeries
02:40:32.400 and not tax-subsidize
02:40:34.080 childbirth. Women in this country have
02:40:36.240 to pay $20,000 to $50,000 in childbirth,
02:40:38.200 but we fully fund a man becoming a woman.
02:40:40.420 You don't have to pay $20,000 to $50,000 in childbirth.
02:40:42.020 Isn't being trans a social disadvantage, though?
02:40:43.920 No, clearly not. You support them.
02:40:46.060 Blindly. In fact, in schools,
02:40:48.280 in every academic, they get incentives for being trans.
02:40:50.480 The man that attacked me,
02:40:52.200 my company paid 90% of his
02:40:54.400 sex S.R.S.
02:40:56.480 I don't agree with that.
02:40:57.440 And I would love a time we talk after having three kids.
02:41:00.300 Do you think that was afforded to me?
02:41:01.740 So you don't support trans rights then?
02:41:03.520 There's no such thing as trans rights.
02:41:04.860 It's literally just mental illness promotion.
02:41:08.440 Yeah.
02:41:09.380 They are mentally ill.
02:41:10.440 What rights don't they have that?
02:41:12.820 I will take full responsibility
02:41:14.920 if I will take full responsibility
02:41:17.040 if we see a society that is based on
02:41:18.820 encouraging these people to find
02:41:20.580 some security in their femininity and in their masculinity.
02:41:22.840 I will not take responsibility for what they end up hurting themselves doing or the illusions that they end up promoting
02:41:27.580 Will you take responsibility for the delusions that they're having and what they do to their own body?
02:41:32.480 No, of course not
02:41:33.980 Would you treat a schizophrenic by talking to the invisible people that they are seeing?
02:41:38.920 Would you treat it that way?
02:41:40.760 No, but that's because you're acknowledging one as a mental illness and the other as
02:41:44.540 How is thinking that you're something that you're not a mental illness?
02:41:48.440 Well, that's because, again, I respect these people's identity
02:41:51.560 I see a trans woman as a woman
02:41:53.660 So I don't think
02:41:54.680 That goes down to whether or not you view them as a woman
02:41:57.500 What is a mental illness?
02:41:59.660 A mental illness I'd say is like
02:42:01.340 A problem that exists within your mind
02:42:03.880 Mentally that plagues you
02:42:05.200 So someone that needs to be on hormones and mutilate their body
02:42:07.800 Again I wouldn't even call it mutilation
02:42:10.000 And think that they're something that they're not
02:42:11.300 I don't want to get too vulgar
02:42:13.560 But if a man ends up inverting his private parts
02:42:16.180 It will necrify
02:42:17.100 They have to dilate it and it ends up dying
02:42:20.040 They end up dying from the wound itself.
02:42:21.660 50% of them die, including women, from the wound itself because it dies.
02:42:25.400 The flesh dies.
02:42:26.360 Then they get infections because they're trying to pee out of something that is completely mutilated.
02:42:29.760 It is mutilation.
02:42:30.920 Then they grow hair inside of the flesh.
02:42:35.560 It is mutilation, and you're encouraging that.
02:42:38.000 Just because I said I would respect the identity of a trans person, I was not talking about that procedure.
02:42:45.940 I was talking about their identity.
02:42:47.200 about their own angelica angelica if you're gonna fucking have a conversation with her
02:42:52.560 you gotta let her finish without uh interrupting it's fucking dog shit for the audio go ahead
02:42:58.000 i was just going to say when i say i respect a trans person's identity i am saying like okay i
02:43:03.420 will if you want to identify as a woman i will call you as such i will treat you as such i am
02:43:07.940 not saying that this particular procedure that has all these adverse effects on the human body
02:43:11.520 that i am encouraging everyone to get this procedure i don't know about that procedure
02:43:14.980 and if it's really harmful then i would and it's causing like all these people all this harm then
02:43:19.780 i'm not for that i'm gonna identify as black sorry which is why she was saying that she doesn't care
02:43:24.580 if they suck a penis or not because they already identified a woman which makes them a woman the
02:43:28.560 surgery does not make them a woman but that's playing delusion can i identify as black why
02:43:33.800 the hell not because i i don't i don't think your ethnicity is like a social construct well that's
02:43:39.320 the point yes it is if you knew better you wouldn't think that way why do you think we're arguing with
02:43:44.580 few do you think that white people are the dominant race in america yes or no i don't know
02:43:51.060 do they make up the biggest like percentage yes yes but do you think that they dominate everywhere
02:43:55.660 schools like that wasn't your original question the biggest well that's what i mean i don't know
02:44:00.460 i don't know where she's going and then do they dominate everywhere those are two separate okay
02:44:04.500 do you think that white people dominate the world dominate the world no not necessarily there's like
02:44:10.180 like a billion people in china so like if we just talk about like demographic percentages then i
02:44:15.560 don't think they're okay do you think white people dominate america well if we're talking
02:44:19.940 like demographically if they make up the biggest percentage then yeah but do you think we have the
02:44:23.660 most benefits in society and we're the last less oppressed i would not necessarily know okay
02:44:31.520 what's your where are you taking your line of questioning i don't know where she's going
02:44:39.500 Because race is a social construct, too.
02:44:41.620 Because there's a lot of people out there that say, oh, well, white people have more of an advantage.
02:44:45.980 Ethnicity isn't, though.
02:44:47.000 Then that makes ethnicity and race a social construct when you say things like that.
02:44:51.340 I'd say race can be a social construct.
02:44:53.980 Like, someone could perceive me as one thing, but I could, like, not be that thing when it comes to, like, race.
02:44:58.140 Like, for example, he thought I was, like, Hispanic.
02:45:00.220 But my ethnicity is Indian.
02:45:03.140 I have, like, that's, like, in my DNA that's been tested.
02:45:05.760 Like, that's, yeah.
02:45:07.980 Okay, but I wanted to go back to it, though.
02:45:09.500 Like, why can't I really identify as black?
02:45:11.520 Why can't I do that?
02:45:13.140 Because I don't think that there's anything about that that you can relate to.
02:45:16.480 Okay.
02:45:17.140 What if I adopt black culture?
02:45:19.000 What if I have dreadlocks on?
02:45:20.720 What if I, like, knock up some women and don't take care of them?
02:45:23.200 That's not black culture.
02:45:24.400 That's not, yeah.
02:45:25.460 It really is.
02:45:26.080 It's not tied to your heritage.
02:45:28.000 It's tied to, like, your, like, ethnicity is tied to your heritage.
02:45:30.540 Like, going way back.
02:45:31.620 It's tied to your family.
02:45:32.720 It's tied to your upbringing.
02:45:33.880 It's tied to your background.
02:45:34.920 It's probably tied to the places you visit.
02:45:36.620 Your relatives.
02:45:36.800 Isn't your gender tied to your sex?
02:45:38.940 Yeah, but your sex just starts at your birth.
02:45:41.980 I said, I already acknowledged the biological reality within gender earlier.
02:45:45.560 To be fair, though, it is not part of black culture.
02:45:49.240 I said there is equally a social aspect and a biological aspect.
02:45:52.700 When it comes to leaving a woman pregnant out of wedlock, that is the absence of culture and responsibility.
02:45:57.320 Exactly.
02:45:57.920 That's something that needs to be encouraged.
02:45:59.100 When it comes to black culture, there are elements of music and culture that need to be respected.
02:46:03.460 But when it comes to leaving a woman pregnant and abandoning her, that is the absence of culture.
02:46:06.880 I would say black does not depend on your hairstyle or music taste.
02:46:10.340 It depends on your heritage.
02:46:12.260 Well, why doesn't it depend on that?
02:46:13.960 Before we move to race, can I add something on the transgender thing?
02:46:18.340 Yes.
02:46:18.580 I think that people need to start being okay with seeing men in dresses and not calling them women.
02:46:24.140 I think that men should be able to be feminine and to wear dresses, have long hair, whatever, without being called a woman.
02:46:31.500 Yeah, but that was the whole thing with Kurt Cobain.
02:46:33.160 It's like that's been normalized.
02:46:34.340 That was actually like popularized.
02:46:35.460 People get bullied and encouraged to be trans.
02:46:39.920 Because it's a trend to be transgender, there is a difference between transgender people that are transgender because of the mental illness, gender dysphoria, which is real and hard to deal with, whatever, and transgender people who are transgender because they want to be part of this trend.
02:46:56.680 And that's exactly what I do.
02:46:57.400 They want to look feminine and call themselves a woman.
02:46:59.160 I don't care.
02:46:59.880 You should be able to be feminine and wear a dress and look like a woman without calling yourself a woman.
02:47:05.440 The last point on this that I'll have is when it comes to someone who is truly mentally ill, which used to be the case before it became a trend, would you be okay with them getting surgical procedures as opposed to psychiatric help?
02:47:14.740 No, you can't.
02:47:16.980 If you have some other type of delusion where you really feel like you need to have your leg chopped off, a doctor's not going to do that, obviously.
02:47:27.700 I think that it probably should be the same for transgender people.
02:47:31.420 you should be able to look like a woman and do feminine things without having to change the one
02:47:38.740 thing that nobody sees you know and calling yourself a woman i'm in agreement i also just
02:47:43.620 want to say like if you're like considering like transgender like a mental illness i really also
02:47:49.000 hope you're really like an advocate for like mental health awareness more mental health
02:47:53.000 resources being put into schools and things of that sort i just hope that that's the case for
02:47:56.040 you yeah congratulations it is like you got good no i'm just i'm just checking i'm just hoping
02:48:00.180 Well, congratulations, you got it.
02:48:01.320 Of course, of course.
02:48:02.280 The unknown soldier donated $200.
02:48:05.000 Thank you, man.
02:48:05.580 I'd like to lighten the mood with a poem about mathematics.
02:48:09.180 It's called One Million.
02:48:10.900 Don't cut me off, Brian.
02:48:13.060 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-one.
02:48:30.180 22, 23, 24.
02:48:32.580 Hey, man, you're going to be spending a lot of money tonight, man.
02:48:35.520 If it's a poem called One Million, you got, you got shit.
02:48:39.380 Take us a couple billion years.
02:48:40.540 You might make me, you're going to drop like five figures, six figures tonight, maybe more.
02:48:45.460 I'm not sure the, no, wait, hold on.
02:48:47.980 What would be if he can fit 25, so it would be like a million divided by 25?
02:48:52.900 Four thousand.
02:48:55.500 Eight hundred thousand.
02:48:56.600 Wait, hold on, four thousand?
02:48:57.460 wait a million divided by
02:48:58.780 wait am I retarded
02:49:00.380 I'm actually typing
02:49:02.800 yeah it wouldn't be 40
02:49:04.400 wait
02:49:06.920 it's 40,000 right
02:49:08.500 wait no hold on
02:49:10.780 no
02:49:11.140 no it wouldn't be
02:49:13.640 no divided by
02:49:15.740 wait am I
02:49:16.820 multiplied by 200 though
02:49:18.680 divided by
02:49:20.960 25
02:49:22.860 it would be 40,000
02:49:24.780 he could send in 40,000 super chats
02:49:27.100 so times 200 hold on let me do the math i'm actually retarded can we at least get to 100
02:49:33.380 though it would be 8 million it would get to 100 though i think we could get to 100 they could get
02:49:37.740 yeah i appreciate that i appreciate that i still i still am going to do the champagne pop from
02:49:42.100 earlier we're gonna uh shift gears here we do have a super chat also from jim bob if a woman is
02:49:49.540 anyone that wants to claim they are a woman why do we have title nine why are you misogynist oh
02:49:55.600 Yeah. I was going to, I tried to bring up Title IX.
02:49:58.320 Can you tell me more about Title IX?
02:50:00.480 It happened during a road of education.
02:50:03.500 What is it?
02:50:05.560 It like ensures a division between men's and women's sports and things like that.
02:50:10.460 So that way women can compete fairly.
02:50:12.360 It happened during Brown versus Board of Education.
02:50:14.420 The reason we have Title IX is because like sports plays a line to like your body, your physiology.
02:50:19.040 And because like men and women from birth have very different physiology, like there needs to be something like that.
02:50:25.340 Do you think that a trans woman or trans person in general has a duty or should have a duty to disclose to a potential romantic partner?
02:50:34.600 Disclose your private parts?
02:50:36.060 I think so, yeah.
02:50:37.320 I think that should be, like, something they should be honest about.
02:50:39.460 Yeah, last week we had a woman saying that there was no duty.
02:50:43.140 Well, there isn't, like, a legal duty, so technically someone could, like, bamboozle you.
02:50:48.240 But I think there should be, like, a moral ethical duty.
02:50:51.320 Like, if you're trans, you should probably disclose that and not, let's say you're super passing or whatever, although I like to think that it's usually pretty obvious, but, you know.
02:51:03.800 There's some good ones out there.
02:51:05.260 Yeah, look, some of the ladyboys or whatever, I guess.
02:51:07.600 Oh, I know someone.
02:51:08.620 I know someone got killed because she didn't discuss it.
02:51:12.600 I think they should disclose it.
02:51:13.480 But I thought they were a woman.
02:51:15.220 What makes them different from a normal woman?
02:51:16.580 What does it have to do with whether or not I think they should disclose it?
02:51:19.340 I think that's a major part of their identity.
02:51:21.500 I thought they were just a normal woman, though.
02:51:22.740 That's interesting.
02:51:24.120 So it should be different for them.
02:51:24.800 Well, I think they're a woman, but obviously they have a very different experience and a very different past.
02:51:29.360 And that also, again, relates to their physiology in some way.
02:51:32.180 Okay, okay.
02:51:32.580 Let me ask.
02:51:33.680 If a man were to have sex with you, sorry, it's awkward.
02:51:36.240 But if a man were to have sex with you, would it be gay or straight?
02:51:39.260 Like, is it straight for him to do that?
02:51:41.600 That would be straight.
02:51:42.500 Well, of course, yeah.
02:51:43.000 I also want to clarify, I'm not attracted to trans men, personally.
02:51:48.400 Okay.
02:51:49.340 By the way, guys, my math hiccup there, I drink so much from that champagne bottle.
02:51:56.300 I'm still a bit tipsy, so when I'm a little, you know, alcohol is involved, my math just completely.
02:52:01.880 That's why we don't have any extra champagne.
02:52:04.200 You've got another one, right?
02:52:05.680 Yeah, there's another one.
02:52:06.640 We're going to pop another one.
02:52:08.040 So, Robert Tanner, we're going to pop that in just a moment.
02:52:10.720 Well, I do have to move it on, but we have Gorlock the Destroyer.
02:52:13.720 This is a dating question on a scale of one, zero to ten.
02:52:16.940 Rate your own looks.
02:52:18.540 hold on let me repeat that because i fucking stuttered on a scale of zero to ten rate your
02:52:23.100 own looks face body total can't pick seven so do it like for example i'll go ahead and rate myself
02:52:28.160 uh face 4.5 body 4.5 total 4.5 so if you can break it down like your face rating body rating
02:52:35.880 total rating starting with you can i just say like 6.5 uh no just do face body total so total
02:52:43.080 would be i'll just say 6.5 for everything so can you do face 6.5 6.5 body 6.5 total 6.5
02:52:49.260 i think you're stop stop stop stop stop sorry stop we don't need the constant buttons on some
02:52:55.700 of these just allow the people let me go around the panel go ahead face six body six total six
02:53:01.900 okay uh face six body six total six as well okay um face four and a half body six
02:53:13.020 TOTAL FIVE. FACE FIVE, BODY FIVE, TOTAL FIVE. FACE FIVE POINT FIVE, BODY SIX POINT FIVE, I DON'T KNOW, TOTAL JUST FIVE, FIVE IN GENERAL, FIVE POINT FIVE.
02:53:30.020 EIGHT, EIGHT, EIGHT. I THINK PERSONALITY PLAYS A HUGE ROLE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKS. I KNOW. I THINK IT PLAYS A ROLE. I WOULD SAY EIGHT, EIGHT AND EIGHT.
02:53:42.020 okay what about you um mike closer to the mic please four six
02:53:48.700 seven i don't know that doesn't make sense
02:53:53.400 the math is not yeah in total just like a six oh i was just trying to tell this lady that she
02:54:01.100 undercut herself i think you're very beautiful fyi thank you yeah um i would say seven and a
02:54:07.380 half all around like down the board uh well you can't say seven at all not seven yeah so you're
02:54:14.420 gonna have to either go okay can I just say six and a half then sure okay okay you don't agree
02:54:20.940 to that yeah base five body probably five and then overall five okay Riley oh my acne tanks me
02:54:28.540 um I would say I can't say seven so eight eight eight all right and uh I get myself four point
02:54:34.320 4.5, 4.5, 4.5.
02:54:35.720 All right.
02:54:36.620 Wow, no 10s at the table.
02:54:38.100 That is a rare treat, I guess.
02:54:40.660 We don't want to open up ourselves to any more controversy.
02:54:43.600 Oh, so you, okay, we do have some 10s then maybe at the table.
02:54:47.580 All right.
02:54:48.220 I mean, I do think there are some over ratings, admittedly.
02:54:52.640 I'm not going to lie.
02:54:54.500 Although, I usually don't.
02:54:56.100 Can you rate us?
02:54:57.100 I can do that.
02:54:57.780 Okay, yeah.
02:54:58.120 I'm sure I can do it.
02:55:00.280 But, yeah, usually I'm going to kind of pick on somebody who gives themselves a 10 or a 9
02:55:04.040 or something i mean the there was a couple over ratings i will i'll rate you guys super quick but
02:55:11.820 we're not going to actually linger on this topic quite as long as we normally do okay so uh let's
02:55:17.600 see here uh i i should repeat your ratings uh you gave yourself 6.5 uh you gotta just let your
02:55:27.340 eyebrows just go natural
02:55:29.400 I think
02:55:30.400 we've talked about that before
02:55:32.740 and I did a little bit
02:55:34.200 we've talked about that before
02:55:36.520 I did more
02:55:37.180 just let them go
02:55:38.520 when you wax it kills the hair follicles
02:55:43.380 to her thing
02:55:44.020 I stopped waxing
02:55:46.220 you gave yourself
02:55:49.280 6.5 you were wearing full face of makeup
02:55:51.100 foundation, contouring, powder
02:55:53.440 eyeliner, mascara
02:55:55.120 do you have fake lashes?
02:55:56.080 uh i put on like one little cluster on the edge but mostly are you wearing hair extensions no
02:56:01.480 this is my real hair okay uh you gave yourself 6.5 i think i'd put you like 5.56 okay uh you
02:56:10.520 gave yourself a six uh i'd put you at a
02:56:16.040 four to four point five you gave yourself a six uh you've got full anime girl makeup uh what's
02:56:28.820 that what's the term for it uh the the the there's a specific term for that kind of it's like japanese
02:56:35.780 style i feel like anime was right you use anime gayaru i think i think it might be that uh you're
02:56:45.080 You're half Japanese.
02:56:46.780 Yeah, mine's more Jidae-kei, though.
02:56:48.620 A little closer to the mic.
02:56:49.840 Mine's more Jidae-kei.
02:56:52.040 Jidae.
02:56:52.580 I have no idea what that is, but I'll take your word for it.
02:56:55.780 So, yeah, you've got the fake lashes, quite a bit of makeup.
02:56:58.620 It is hard to do assessments when the makeup is so robust.
02:57:02.680 You gave yourself a six.
02:57:04.600 And I'm also giving someone the assessment.
02:57:07.920 Like, I'm envisioning without the makeup.
02:57:11.060 I think you'd be closer to like 4.755.
02:57:16.300 You gave yourself a 4.5.
02:57:21.860 I actually think that's pretty accurate.
02:57:25.300 You got to lose the septum piercing though.
02:57:28.300 I should have flipped it up.
02:57:29.240 I think you got to, you got to, you're conservative, right?
02:57:34.020 I'm a moderate.
02:57:35.220 You're moderate.
02:57:35.980 Okay.
02:57:36.420 What's with the short hair?
02:57:37.520 I'm just curious.
02:57:38.420 Well, it's a funny story.
02:57:39.900 my current boyfriend had cancer and i dressed up for i dressed up as him for halloween and i went
02:57:48.220 like all the way so i shaved my hair off i bought him a wig or he might have bought himself a wig
02:57:54.600 but he dressed as me i dressed as him it was awesome that's so sweet admirable that you did
02:57:59.980 that right that's amazing that's adorable i'm gonna cry well you're uh brian can't even hurt
02:58:04.360 hate on that well yeah i mean of course uh you know the this is a thing people do if if a friend
02:58:10.760 or family member or you know boyfriend girlfriend whatever has cancer and like a show of solidarity
02:58:16.880 you will shave your head uh to support but it does typically at least for assessments of female
02:58:23.060 attractiveness uh shorter hair typically does have an impact on like the assessment of attractiveness
02:58:29.500 but i think grow the hair out lose the septum piercing yeah i miss my long hair all the time
02:58:33.820 You gave yourself 4.5.
02:58:37.060 I think you're fairly spot on there.
02:58:39.320 You gave yourself a 5.
02:58:40.620 Is that correct?
02:58:42.000 Fair bit of eye shadow there.
02:58:46.340 Full face of makeup.
02:58:48.400 I think I'd give you between a 4 or 4.5.
02:58:52.640 You gave yourself a 5.5 for face.
02:59:00.980 I think, yeah, 5.5.
02:59:03.080 I think you're fairly spot on. You gave yourself an 8 there. I think you did overrate yourself.
02:59:11.220 I'd probably give you, I want to say between a 4 and a 5. You gave yourself an 8. You are wearing
02:59:22.060 quite a bit of makeup, although underneath the makeup there are some strong aesthetic components
02:59:28.980 there. I do think you did slightly
02:59:30.840 overrate yourself, but I would say
02:59:32.680 I think I'd give you
02:59:34.180 it is hard with the makeup.
02:59:37.740 I think I'd give you maybe like
02:59:40.680 a six.
02:59:43.660 Six.
02:59:44.740 You gave yourself a four.
02:59:47.840 Is that correct?
02:59:48.600 Six. Oh, wait.
02:59:50.620 You're very strict, Brian.
02:59:53.540 I think you undercut yourself, too.
02:59:55.280 I think you undercut yourself.
02:59:56.420 Hold on. Just to be clear. So some people think seven is average, like they're doing it off of
03:00:04.140 like a grade, you know, like a C you'd be like a C is an average grade or whatever. And that would
03:00:10.200 make you, uh, I don't know in this, the, if you, what, what is a C like you out of a hundred
03:00:16.320 points, you get between 70, 70 to 80. And people think that's average grade or whatever. No,
03:00:22.220 five is average so if you're five that's average looking um uh okay so you gave yourself a six
03:00:29.800 you said i think i'd put you closer to a four uh you gave yourself a was it 7.5 no six and a half
03:00:38.020 oh six six i changed it yeah six point five i'd put you closer to 4.55 uh angelica you gave
03:00:44.800 yourself a five uh i actually think angelica you may have slightly uh underrated yourself
03:00:52.640 i think i'd put you uh face wise these are all face ratings by the way i'm not like a rating
03:00:57.920 body or a total uh i think angelica i'd put you closer to 5.5 riley what did you give yourself
03:01:03.980 888 uh i don't rate dudes i'm a pass on i mean i could rate a dude you want me to rate you riley
03:01:12.680 What if we rate him?
03:01:13.480 Yeah, can we rate him?
03:01:14.220 Can we rate him?
03:01:15.480 Yeah.
03:01:15.860 We can do a little game here.
03:01:17.920 Sure, why not?
03:01:19.720 Like a five.
03:01:21.040 You got to switch the camera angles.
03:01:23.000 Go ahead.
03:01:23.580 Like a five.
03:01:25.100 Okay.
03:01:26.740 Not my type, but probably like a four.
03:01:30.660 A five.
03:01:33.840 Yeah, a five sounds about right.
03:01:36.240 Six.
03:01:37.300 I would say six, but I think you're going to get more handsome with age.
03:01:40.600 I think you're kind of in a geeky phase right now because you're very young.
03:01:43.660 Like, I'm 30, and I kind of look at you like a little kid.
03:01:46.400 Get some facial hair.
03:01:47.580 Yeah, like, I think by the time you're my age, you're going to be a knockout.
03:01:51.240 Yeah.
03:01:51.780 Yeah.
03:01:52.420 I agree.
03:01:54.220 After you saying that, and I was going to say 4.5.
03:01:57.560 Yeah, so 5.
03:01:58.900 I hate this game, but I think you're super handsome.
03:02:01.060 I would give you an 8.
03:02:03.060 I think you have pretty eyes, so I'll give you an 8.
03:02:05.940 Awesome.
03:02:06.680 Yeah, I would say, like, wait, we can't do 7s with the giving the rating?
03:02:09.780 Or what?
03:02:10.360 what's the rule sure if you want to do it i would say like a seven right and i agree i think
03:02:14.040 with time like when you age and stuff you're going to be angelica i would be with the ladies
03:02:22.760 men get sexier with age number oh probably like right now um i'm not gonna lie like a four you
03:02:29.720 look a little bit like a boy yeah so what does that well yeah but you have to hold on so obviously
03:02:35.560 Riley's 21 but you'd have to factor in like yeah some of you are older so you're gonna your natural
03:02:42.620 inclination is to be attracted to men around your age or old older men but you have to rate the
03:02:48.600 aesthetics on their own like on their own not just your own necessarily personal preferences
03:02:54.140 in this case Riley has pretty strong facial aesthetics maybe his only weak well one of his
03:03:00.140 weaknesses skin clarity but he already talked about that but I mean absent the skin clarity
03:03:05.100 there's a baseline of strong facial
03:03:07.060 aesthetics, strong
03:03:08.820 brows, strong eyes, strong
03:03:10.720 hair, strong facial
03:03:12.980 symmetry. Perhaps the lower
03:03:15.020 third is on the weaker
03:03:16.900 side, but otherwise, I think we give
03:03:19.020 Riley, we got to give Riley here.
03:03:21.120 You got, first of all, some of you who rated
03:03:23.100 him low, he mogs the shit
03:03:25.040 out of most of you. Yeah, I rated him higher than me.
03:03:27.060 Like, honestly, Riley kind of
03:03:29.180 fucking mogs, I think,
03:03:31.160 everybody here. I was going to say that.
03:03:32.880 That's a little gay. How would that be gay?
03:03:34.660 He's so much better looking than all you women
03:03:38.320 He's so beautiful
03:03:40.080 Oh my god look at a strong future
03:03:42.140 So if I were to see
03:03:44.760 Yeah I think men
03:03:46.640 Can make assessments of other men
03:03:48.820 And it's not a homosexual thing
03:03:50.660 It's just like oh okay
03:03:52.460 This guy fits into
03:03:53.720 This guy fits into
03:03:55.520 The determinations
03:03:57.860 The looks maxing PSL
03:03:59.360 It's not even looks maxing
03:04:00.580 It's just like okay how can I as a man come to a determination
03:04:03.740 that Brad Pitt, when he was young,
03:04:06.080 is better looking than Jonah Hill.
03:04:08.480 That doesn't make me homosexual.
03:04:09.500 I'm not saying you're actually homosexual.
03:04:10.960 I'm just joking.
03:04:11.900 What are you fucking doing?
03:04:13.760 Why are you...
03:04:15.080 Bro, you got fucking butterfingers over there.
03:04:19.920 That's like the second time you fucking slipped,
03:04:21.980 at least that I saw it.
03:04:23.860 Goddamn.
03:04:24.460 Okay.
03:04:26.560 How many of you guys can I go around?
03:04:28.640 You want to rate them?
03:04:29.720 Yeah.
03:04:30.120 Sure.
03:04:30.780 We can do that.
03:04:31.280 Let them at it.
03:04:31.680 I feel like you guys have confidence issues, so I mean, you might be surprised, but I would say, I'm just going to go quick to not take up too much time, but I would say 8, 6, no, no, no, 8, 4, 5, 3, 5, 7, 3, 9, 5, 5, 8.
03:04:54.180 Oh, you're too generous, right?
03:04:55.980 Bro, okay, like, you said 5 is the average, though.
03:04:59.120 And, like, here's the thing.
03:05:00.320 We're not talking about the average girl that you see in Santa Monica Beach, right?
03:05:03.080 We're talking about the average girl in at least America, right?
03:05:05.780 Like, I'm just saying, like, come on.
03:05:09.100 Well, yeah, it depends.
03:05:10.020 It does depend a bit about what you mean on average, for example.
03:05:14.000 I feel like the best way to do it is, like, if you're a 9, then you're in the top 10 percentile.
03:05:18.740 That'd be, like, the best way to do it?
03:05:19.740 No?
03:05:20.160 Not quite, no.
03:05:21.140 What is a 9 to do, guys?
03:05:22.720 What is a 9?
03:05:23.360 The distribution would be different.
03:05:25.040 So it wouldn't break down.
03:05:25.440 So it's more strict.
03:05:26.480 Yeah, the distribution wouldn't be different.
03:05:28.500 So, for example, you wouldn't see 10% of women would be nines, 10%.
03:05:32.320 It wouldn't quite work like that.
03:05:34.160 You'd see, like, for example, it wouldn't be, like, 10% nine, skipping down a bit, like, 10% six, 10% five, 10% four, 10% ones.
03:05:44.220 Like, somebody to be a one, you almost never see a ten, or, like, a nine, because they're on the tens.
03:05:52.600 And it's very rare to see somebody.
03:05:54.080 Oh, it's a Belker.
03:05:54.600 like it's very rare to see somebody who's like shockingly ugly yeah so it's about like basically
03:06:00.960 you're like really no offense like we're like so i would say you're gonna see like 50 percent of
03:06:09.040 people fall into five okay okay so a bell curve a bell curve yeah yeah beauty is in the eye of the
03:06:14.140 beholder and i do notice on those my 600 pound lives for some reason those women always have
03:06:18.740 men available and ready to wipe their you know what anyways uh i mean beauty so beauty in the
03:06:25.180 strictest philosophical sense it is subjective but in terms of assessments of beauty there are
03:06:31.800 objective measurements that contribute to the subjective assessment of beauty so certain just
03:06:38.740 certain characteristics like objective measurements and then it and it is also the case that for
03:06:44.900 example i think it is objective objectively the case that say a majority of people would find
03:06:50.680 agreement on which people are the most attractive there would be objectivity there i have a theory
03:06:57.960 on why women sometimes struggle to answer this question uh accurately um i think women specifically
03:07:05.880 we have a tendency to gauge attraction on like personality and other attributes do they though
03:07:12.580 um i think in person i think dating apps do men a disservice um in that regard because
03:07:21.460 dating apps in particular i think um men tend to be more initially attracted visually and i think
03:07:29.160 dating apps kind of force women into that paradigm when like women are often attracted to status and
03:07:35.580 and stuff like that that aren't purely physical characteristics i mean obviously physical
03:07:40.100 attraction is still important but i think like when i think about how you know me and other women
03:07:45.980 i know gauge attraction and if they like a guy it's it's often an amalgamation of characteristics
03:07:52.160 that are not just purely physical and i think women when they're asked this question they have
03:07:57.080 a hard time isolating just the physical attractiveness because we tend to view qualities
03:08:02.680 in a network versus being able to isolate like a train of thought in a particular category that's
03:08:09.200 Yeah, I like that.
03:08:10.820 I tend to agree with that.
03:08:12.140 We have a TTS here from The Unknown Soldier.
03:08:14.020 The Unknown Soldier donated $200.
03:08:14.680 I know.
03:08:15.280 I know where it was from.
03:08:17.340 First, overall, you don't get the call back to $1 million.
03:08:20.500 It's from the poetry reading prank.
03:08:22.560 I know.
03:08:22.880 Also, you get 200 characters per TTS.
03:08:27.040 Numbers start getting really long.
03:08:29.280 Now do the math.
03:08:30.740 I know it tickles your autism.
03:08:33.500 Oh, boy.
03:08:34.600 Yeah, actually, speaking of, I need to do another champagne pop.
03:08:37.420 I was going to say another shot.
03:08:38.380 We do have to get the champagne pop from the previous.
03:08:43.320 Who paid for that again?
03:08:45.140 What's that?
03:08:46.060 Who paid for the campaign?
03:08:47.040 Not the campaign.
03:08:48.240 The champagne.
03:08:49.260 Riley hasn't even been drinking.
03:08:51.180 Champagne campaign.
03:08:51.860 He's already slurred his words.
03:08:53.800 My sprinkler goes like this.
03:08:56.040 Oh.
03:08:57.140 Oh, well, thank you, Gloctavius.
03:09:00.660 That's beautiful.
03:09:01.900 I love that.
03:09:02.540 It's like a black person's laugh.
03:09:03.960 It's so wonderful.
03:09:04.700 Wait, what is this?
03:09:06.320 It's a black person's laugh.
03:09:08.380 Wait, what do you mean it's a blackbird?
03:09:10.700 Riley, I've noticed...
03:09:12.080 What is this blackbird?
03:09:14.140 Riley, I've noticed, Riley...
03:09:16.460 Do you have...
03:09:17.400 Do you want to sit here?
03:09:18.180 By the way, Riley, I've noticed a couple comments you've made about black people.
03:09:23.660 What's going on there, Riley?
03:09:25.360 I mean, I'm just stating facts at this point.
03:09:27.200 There's a bit of a hyperfixation, I would say.
03:09:30.220 It does seem a little...
03:09:31.640 Little rage baby.
03:09:33.120 We need to set him right here.
03:09:34.440 Little rage baby in this little house.
03:09:36.540 There's a lot of problems.
03:09:37.460 That's all he can think.
03:09:38.180 I do not, hold on, I don't agree, wait, do you want to clarify what you, like, there's
03:09:42.860 a problem?
03:09:43.740 No, there's a problem.
03:09:44.180 I hope you're not going to say the, you're not saying black people.
03:09:47.660 By the way, they make a lot of problems.
03:09:49.420 Fully disavow, wait, well, hold on.
03:09:50.860 What?
03:09:51.680 With high crime rates, high rape rates?
03:09:53.420 Well, wait, but are you saying black people are a problem?
03:09:56.080 No.
03:09:56.280 Because I disavow that entirely.
03:09:57.840 Completely disavow.
03:09:58.740 But they create a lot of problems, more than the average American does.
03:10:02.740 So it's no longer the next case.
03:10:03.620 But they're still Americans.
03:10:04.440 I mean if it look if you're looking at crime statistics there may be over representation
03:10:12.220 but I think you could adjust your messaging so as it to not land in such an abrasive because
03:10:18.100 I think but I never said the words black people are a problem I just said there's a big problem
03:10:21.460 in the United States it's a big problem I just think you would point everything back to black
03:10:24.720 people like what is that or to laugh have to do with the black process no I understand I understand
03:10:30.160 He's fucking so terrible
03:10:32.020 I think that's the intention though
03:10:34.120 He was obviously dumped by
03:10:36.180 I think it's okay to be like
03:10:37.600 There's like disproportionate
03:10:39.880 Crime statistics
03:10:41.720 It's not black people
03:10:42.640 Can we make a rule?
03:10:45.660 No she's half white half Asian
03:10:47.540 She's the opposite
03:10:48.380 You should read some Thomas Sowell
03:10:51.980 Oh I love Thomas Sowell
03:10:53.880 Thomas Sowell's awesome
03:10:54.820 No
03:10:56.080 My city's 1% black
03:10:59.380 At least he's honest.
03:11:01.160 I mean, has there been, like, do you have racial animus towards black people?
03:11:08.280 There's some animosity for sure.
03:11:09.360 Define that word.
03:11:10.700 Animus, like a sort of negative sentiment towards or, like, racial hatred or anything.
03:11:16.460 Okay, just wanted to clarify that.
03:11:18.840 No, I just like talking about statistics and stuff.
03:11:20.720 But I was just bringing up the laugh thing because that's been a meme for, like, a long time.
03:11:24.040 That's how black people are?
03:11:24.780 Really?
03:11:25.360 Yeah, like a Windex bottle.
03:11:26.880 How would you know?
03:11:27.480 You don't have black friends.
03:11:28.480 I heard black people laugh.
03:11:30.600 Sounds like a Windex bottle.
03:11:32.300 Where did you hear them?
03:11:34.000 All over the internet.
03:11:35.040 You heard them all over the internet laughing?
03:11:37.000 You know what I'm going to do, Riley, what?
03:11:38.440 We need to switch him and Hannah.
03:11:39.600 You looked up black people laughing, and that's what you heard?
03:11:42.600 The next time Riley brings up black people, we're going to put him where Hannah is.
03:11:45.620 Can we make that a rule?
03:11:46.640 You're just going to sit him next to me.
03:11:48.160 You've got to put a quarter in the jar.
03:11:49.220 You've got to put a quarter in the jar.
03:11:50.700 You know what?
03:11:51.120 Actually, speaking of Riley, I think you should at least pay some reparations to the two women here.
03:11:56.220 Just for some of your comments tonight, to be honest.
03:11:58.720 Yeah, just come.
03:11:59.340 I don't have cash on me.
03:12:00.540 I don't have cash.
03:12:00.840 It'd be a fun drink and game.
03:12:02.680 I take Apple.
03:12:03.760 You know, Apple Pay, cash sale.
03:12:07.820 I mean, how much were you thinking?
03:12:09.320 Like $250.
03:12:10.640 $250?
03:12:11.360 Yeah.
03:12:11.760 Okay, what's three-fifths of that?
03:12:12.820 Can we get a calculator?
03:12:13.980 Oh, my God.
03:12:14.820 Can we get a screenshot of this transaction?
03:12:17.000 You're crazy, Riley.
03:12:17.960 You're crazy.
03:12:18.260 That's crazy.
03:12:19.300 All right, so here, next topic, next topic.
03:12:21.760 The looks rating, do we, is there anything left we have to do for the looks rating?
03:12:25.100 I don't think so.
03:12:25.900 Wait, can I ask why you asked that question?
03:12:28.940 Genuinely?
03:12:29.780 What question?
03:12:30.220 Well, how about before I answer your question, you tell – because my impression is you have an objection to the question, an objection to rating people's looks.
03:12:40.960 Why don't you explain that first?
03:12:43.000 I really – I totally understand what you're saying, and I think that is why it's a hard question.
03:12:47.320 I really think personality is absolutely crucial to somebody's rating.
03:12:51.000 You could see the most gorgeous human if she is stuck up, snobby, degrading.
03:12:56.920 I just think it takes away from her.
03:12:58.600 Or vice versa.
03:12:59.440 You can see a guy that is not very attractive.
03:13:01.420 He could be so kind, hilarious, a good provider.
03:13:03.920 He instantly is higher up in my book.
03:13:06.520 Yep.
03:13:07.280 I agree.
03:13:07.820 That's why.
03:13:08.300 I feel like it's kind of like they are coexisting.
03:13:11.700 So, yeah, but what you're doing there is this sort of tricky thing where you're adding qualifiers that may not necessarily exist.
03:13:17.920 So you would agree with me that, like, are all attractive people pieces of shit?
03:13:24.160 No, I'm not saying that.
03:13:24.940 Right, so there are some good-looking people who also possess positive characteristics.
03:13:29.340 Oh, I agree.
03:13:30.080 Now, are those physically attractive people who also possess those good characteristics,
03:13:36.020 are they going to out-compete their less attractive counterparts who also possess
03:13:40.220 a commensurate level of positive characteristics?
03:13:43.480 Are they going to out-compete them?
03:13:44.820 Are they going to have better options?
03:13:46.100 Are they going to have typically better life outcomes?
03:13:48.700 Are they going to be treated better?
03:13:50.580 If they're, sorry, if they are.
03:13:51.800 Okay, so pretty, I'm essentially trying to get to pretty privilege.
03:13:55.080 We see this not just when it comes to dating and relationships, but being attractive also confers benefits in life as a whole.
03:14:02.220 Yeah, I agree.
03:14:02.860 Like in work, you're going to be assessed better.
03:14:07.280 Even in like criminal cases, if you're good looking, you're more, I guess, empathetic to the jury.
03:14:14.540 and they've done studies on this like better looking people tend to get less harsh prison
03:14:20.080 sentences uh women who wear makeup get paid 30 more fyi well i think we should ban makeup to be
03:14:27.420 honest we should just we should criminalize it why uh it's a crime against humanity do you use
03:14:33.840 a beard what if you're fixed up in a dress and like you don't have like a little makeup and
03:14:38.060 It doesn't look right.
03:14:39.380 Yeah, so while beards can alter your appearance, beards are not, they're not artificial.
03:14:47.800 Makeup is completely artificial.
03:14:49.240 Shaping it is artificial.
03:14:51.060 Well, hold on.
03:14:51.600 Now we're getting into styling.
03:14:53.000 That's different than like something else.
03:14:53.600 That's the same thing as makeup.
03:14:54.640 But it's the same, yeah.
03:14:55.720 Well, I actually would argue.
03:14:57.020 A beard is not the same because.
03:14:58.320 Like if you do a comb over and you're balding.
03:15:00.420 If you do a mustache.
03:15:01.680 Yeah, beards are not, beards are not the same as makeup.
03:15:06.340 I would argue that with beards, they're a reflection of a man's testosterone.
03:15:09.420 So if he can grow a beard, then that's reflective of good genes.
03:15:12.480 With makeup, it hides genes.
03:15:14.680 And I think that although sometimes makeup can be done, if you do it under 15 minutes, as Brittany Venti says, it looks good.
03:15:20.460 But if you take much longer to distort your face, that's very deceptive and manipulative towards anyone who's dating you.
03:15:26.180 And I personally, if I was a man, I would feel a little bit bamboozled.
03:15:29.320 Like, I would feel like I can't trust this person.
03:15:31.560 True.
03:15:32.220 Brian, would you date someone with Harry Archer?
03:15:33.600 Just because someone uses makeup.
03:15:34.680 Wait, what?
03:15:35.060 What happened?
03:15:35.480 Just because someone uses makeup, you would not trust him?
03:15:38.800 Not just because they use makeup.
03:15:40.100 If you've seen it, the Asians are actually the perfect ones at this.
03:15:43.300 They changed their face to a point where there's lawsuits going on over there.
03:15:46.700 Wait, who?
03:15:47.320 Asians, like Koreans and Japanese women.
03:15:49.440 There's like entire jars.
03:15:50.680 I do want to be, for the sake of factuality, I'm familiar with what you're talking about.
03:15:56.180 I do believe there was a hoax related to this.
03:15:58.740 Now, I do agree that some of these makeup applications are so, the change is so significant.
03:16:07.220 But there was a story where, like, a woman had, maybe it was plastic surgery, she had makeup, and then she was actually super ugly, and then she had kids, and the husband, like, sued the wife or whatever.
03:16:17.500 I don't know if you're alluding to that.
03:16:19.540 No.
03:16:20.060 Okay.
03:16:20.300 There's a legal sector within those countries, and Thailand, too.
03:16:23.080 So then you're against cosplay as well?
03:16:25.120 No, because cosplay isn't, like, displaying.
03:16:26.860 yeah by the way beards are also genetic so i mean so but would you i was just gonna ask if a girl in
03:16:32.620 the context of dating like she wears makeup she makes it clear she's wearing makeup so you don't
03:16:37.120 think oh this is actually how she looks she shows you what she looks like without wearing makeup so
03:16:40.880 you already know like her pure natural face is she still being deceptive and manipulative to you
03:16:44.820 sorry could you repeat the question i was reading something here my bad i said if a girl in the
03:16:49.380 context of dating she wears makeup she lets it be known to you that she is wearing makeup so you
03:16:53.840 don't think, oh, like this is actually how she looks. She shows you what she looks like without
03:16:57.160 makeup. So you have that information clear as well. Is she still being deceptive and manipulative?
03:17:01.160 Yes, actually to a degree. Now, first off, most women are not like on, uh, well, we could apply
03:17:06.440 this to dating apps, for example, oftentimes on dating apps and they employ filters too,
03:17:10.880 which is another level of deception. Uh, a lot of times on dating apps, women will not,
03:17:15.220 for example, include a photo of them without makeup, even in that context where they have
03:17:20.700 the ability to do it and perhaps where they should, they won't include a photo of them
03:17:24.900 completely bare faced. Uh, your scenario is completely hypothetical. I've never had a woman
03:17:30.360 like show up on a date with a face of makeup and be, and like volunteer. Hey, Brian, here's a photo
03:17:37.080 of me without makeup, just so you know what you're getting into. Women don't really do that. So
03:17:42.320 from a practical perspective, no, but I think the difference is, and also you would agree with me
03:17:48.840 that even if a woman doesn't disclose that she's wearing makeup or doesn't show me a photo of her
03:17:53.740 without makeup, that I could just on my own, like I'm looking at you, you're wearing makeup. I can
03:17:59.600 tell that you're wearing makeup. Right. I think the issue here is that even though I'm aware that
03:18:04.880 you're wearing makeup, the increase in assessment, the increase in the assessment of your
03:18:16.060 attractiveness is not diminished by simple virtue of my awareness or consciousness or knowledge
03:18:23.500 that you are wearing makeup it's uh your perceived attractiveness is still the same
03:18:29.360 so even with disclosure do you think that applies to you or to everyone i'm just curious
03:18:34.540 uh i think it would uh because a lot of guys like actually don't really care if a girl's
03:18:40.300 wearing makeup what do you mean guys don't care that women are wearing makeup i would just say
03:18:45.900 there's like a lot of guys like i've come across that find me attractive just like despite that
03:18:51.420 so yes it can be true like my like my roommate she wears makeup right um like her guy has like
03:18:58.080 told her like oh you're beautiful either way you don't need it but like oh your makeup looks really
03:19:01.260 good like he likes that uh so yeah i mean a man can still be attracted to a woman with makeup and
03:19:08.980 then without makeup or just like he doesn't care about the fact she wears makeup it's like okay
03:19:12.740 you like that cool a lot of guys there's not a i'm not denying that a man can remain attracted
03:19:18.760 to a woman uh even without her makeup he could still even if he had never seen her with makeup
03:19:24.480 he would have still found her attractive i guess that's not really what i'm getting at but you
03:19:28.600 would agree well maybe you wouldn't that there is a component of well one i guess why would you wear
03:19:35.020 it if it didn't have a palpable increase in your perceived attractiveness why would women if it
03:19:41.960 didn't actually make women look better why the fuck would they wear it it does make them look
03:19:47.080 better okay so they're that's not how they actually look though you'd agree with that
03:19:52.360 they don't look like that naturally correct okay so it's deceptive to a degree
03:19:58.760 is it i think to say deceptive means like you're like you're lying and you're not being honest
03:20:04.040 and you're hiding something i could sit here and say i look different without makeup this is how i
03:20:07.580 look with makeup this is how i look without makeup you're covering something up if you're covering
03:20:10.720 something up you kind of are hiding it though so are you lying for wearing clothes because you're
03:20:15.160 covering up your body like what's going on like no okay a trans person you are can i ask brian
03:20:19.560 a question brian are you attracted to a woman who has hairy legs and hairy armpits because
03:20:24.600 earlier you said that hair this is a false equivalent it's not because you said hair is
03:20:28.800 natural and your beard is natural and so it doesn't change anything well armpit hair is
03:20:33.180 natural to women and so is hairy legs yeah grooming and grooming and so grooming is
03:20:37.680 And grooming is a beard.
03:20:38.980 Yeah, grooming is different than an artificial application of paint, essentially.
03:20:45.660 So it's a false equivalence.
03:20:48.700 But, I mean, I'll answer your question.
03:20:50.140 Yeah, I do prefer women who are shaved, who don't have hairy armpits, who don't have hairy legs.
03:20:54.520 And just generally, I think, I mean, I would state that men generally prefer women who have less hair than more hair.
03:21:01.420 Like if we're talking about body hair.
03:21:03.000 So you do like some altercations.
03:21:05.380 Yeah, but that's not my argument.
03:21:06.340 My argument, yeah, but that's, it's a false equivalent, so my argument is not about making alterations.
03:21:15.320 Obviously, people make alterations.
03:21:17.060 My argument specifically relates to the implementation of makeup.
03:21:22.960 Hold on.
03:21:23.520 Robert Tanner, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships, man.
03:21:25.800 Appreciate it.
03:21:27.020 Thank you, man.
03:21:27.840 W's in the chat for Robert Tanner.
03:21:28.860 We're going to still pop the champagne bottle.
03:21:30.420 I haven't forgotten.
03:21:33.400 Yeah, so, sorry, could you repeat your question?
03:21:36.340 Just, do you find women with natural armpit hair and hairy legs?
03:21:41.420 No, I prefer women who shave their legs and who groom and who don't have armpit hair.
03:21:49.240 Okay, so you're not totally against.
03:21:51.680 Well, hold on, but these two things, I don't think these two positions are contradictory.
03:21:55.300 So you can have an objection, or maybe not an objection, but you can have a preference towards body hair grooming,
03:22:01.200 but also find an objection to makeup usage or excessive makeup usage.
03:22:07.360 I would also argue that when it comes to the makeup industry,
03:22:09.340 it's predominantly women and gay men.
03:22:12.100 Straight men are not interested in the makeup industry whatsoever,
03:22:15.060 so it's natural that they're not going to appreciate that in a dating context.
03:22:17.960 They would rather have the more honest, raw-looking you
03:22:20.400 because that's what they're interested in knowing
03:22:22.420 unless they have ulterior motives for you, then they don't care.
03:22:26.780 Most men, I find, actually prefer no makeup.
03:22:30.660 Yeah.
03:22:31.200 And I prefer most of the time that I wear makeup.
03:22:33.760 Also, I wanted to ask, if a 5 out of 10 wears makeup, is she still truly a 5 out of 10?
03:22:38.560 Yes.
03:22:39.940 I think makeup can also make you look not good.
03:22:42.500 Well, I wanted to ask her, if a 5 out of 10 woman wears makeup, is she still truly a 5 out of 10?
03:22:48.580 Like, okay, so is she a 5 out of 10 without makeup?
03:22:51.380 No, but like if she wears makeup, she's still truly a 5 out of 10, right?
03:22:55.800 I just give her the same rating, honestly.
03:22:57.820 Like a 5 out of 10?
03:22:58.940 Yeah.
03:22:59.320 But a chick with a dick is not a guy.
03:23:01.200 what are we talking about right now like what's the subject so you're saying a 5 out of 10 who
03:23:04.780 wears makeup yeah they're still a 5 out of 10 but then a chick with the dick they're well if she
03:23:10.780 wears makeup actually i would i'll take what i said back if she wears makeup then maybe it makes
03:23:14.180 her look more attractive but is she still truly a 5 out of 10 like deep down inside i would just
03:23:19.400 average the two ratings she might average the ratings but i mean like truly though we mean deep
03:23:23.400 down inside we're talking about looks like okay okay okay okay beneath the makeup she's still a
03:23:27.600 five out of ten right if we're talking naturally she's a five out of ten with the makeup she's
03:23:32.400 like again when it comes to aesthetics i think like the like the way i would rate aesthetics
03:23:36.240 has to also do with like how you choose to present yourself and like how you choose to dress like how
03:23:40.300 you choose to style yourself carry yourself all that and that's not personality okay i think you
03:23:44.620 got to be crazy good at makeup to truly alter your appearance there's a lot of people except for
03:23:49.520 except for like skin clarity like with just the general foundation that that's like the only thing
03:23:56.240 you can really change without being crazy good at makeup i mean even contouring you can tell
03:24:01.280 their face shape if you just look at them it's only like by the glance of the eye like
03:24:06.560 a quick second that it alters your appearance truly so even if you're aware that a woman's
03:24:11.960 wearing makeup it's still like the impact it has is to some degree on like your first knee-jerk
03:24:18.580 impression reaction uh it is still going to have like this sort of subconscious uh impact on your
03:24:25.620 level of attraction to them so like even if you're aware like it's still so like i'm trying to think
03:24:34.020 whether it's positive or negative but so if a guy's wearing a really good toupee is that
03:24:39.980 manipulative what if a guy's wearing a really good toupee huh that's manipulative yeah uh so
03:24:47.620 i mean and he once had hair and then he fully balded and he got a really really good that looks
03:24:52.460 I would say, so, I mean, he's, I think a lot of women would prefer a man who had a natural full head of hair than a man who wore a toupee.
03:25:04.260 But if women wear makeup and they truly do not care if another woman's wearing makeup, why would they care if a guy wore a toupee?
03:25:10.040 Well, that's the funny thing.
03:25:11.400 People have double standards.
03:25:13.000 I can almost guarantee you that women who regularly employ makeup usage would, many of them would probably have some,
03:25:20.300 I don't know if it would be an outright objection
03:25:23.200 But they would
03:25:24.460 They would be more attracted to the guy
03:25:27.280 Who has a full natural head of hair
03:25:28.780 Than the guy who has a toupee
03:25:29.960 So then you're also implying that makeup isn't a part of social grooming
03:25:33.120 I would actually argue on this point
03:25:34.520 If a man has a toupee and it's discovered he has a toupee
03:25:36.660 You would fundamentally as a woman start to question his entire integrity
03:25:39.720 Same thing if he were to do other modifications
03:25:41.100 But I know he has a toupee
03:25:41.980 Not if it's good
03:25:43.520 Let's say for example he fooled you
03:25:45.500 He has hair but you turned out he's bald
03:25:47.200 But in my example we fully know just like we fully know that you're wearing makeup
03:25:49.540 when it comes we lay out your position again sorry we know that we're aware that you're
03:25:54.440 wearing makeup you know you've told us we're wearing makeup we've seen you without wearing
03:25:57.380 makeup we've seen you without the toupee so we are fully aware we're both the grown adults we
03:26:00.760 know everything that's going on i mean that would be a compromising of standards at that point where
03:26:04.120 it's just kind of like yeah i'm cool with this but a lot of people on average would not be cool
03:26:07.780 dating a guy wearing the toupee it's just me yeah i mean correct yes but we're talking about like
03:26:12.180 generalizations we're talking about the average i personally would not be okay with a guy with a
03:26:16.140 toupee i'd rather he'd be bald because it's i agree go bald yeah the wig is a little creepy
03:26:20.640 everyone looks better there's some bald daddies out there what's that one the norland it's like
03:26:27.120 that balding pattern yeah no i do have if you're balding just get rid of all the hair you just let
03:26:31.700 it go whatever makes you happy what about this so let's say that if he wants to let's say that
03:26:36.580 makeup exists on a spectrum on a scale of course you'll have women who have like they put a bit
03:26:42.100 of eyeliner on and that's it pretty minimal a bit of mascara on that's it then like you can go a
03:26:47.960 little further all the way to like they're fucking putting clay on their face and they're full glam
03:26:53.420 that's a bit further down on the scale uh but what about this i could see in the future that with
03:26:59.200 some like advanced technology like nano robots or something this could be this could be employed for
03:27:05.020 both men and women um what if there's some like futuristic micro nano robots and like millions or
03:27:13.860 hundreds of thousands of robots that could maneuver on your face and that you could like
03:27:18.040 customize in an app and it would cover your face and it would you could essentially have them fit
03:27:25.080 over your face and it could slightly change your appearance maybe you have a bit of a weak jaw
03:27:31.380 improves it there, or it could even basically completely change your face or keep some elements
03:27:37.800 of your face, but like improve the flaws, maybe your nose, maybe your, you know, whatever it is
03:27:43.640 to make you more attractive. You know, like the Las Vegas sphere, I guess, kind of like that.
03:27:51.500 Let's say it could change a man's face to go from a five to a nine. Would any of you have an issue
03:27:58.140 with that yeah do you think it would be deceptive i think the scale of change is way above makeup in
03:28:02.540 your yeah but i i think that so but you it's not very are you willing to grant that makeup exists
03:28:08.700 on a scale of deception a scale of change again i still wouldn't use the word deception but so
03:28:13.620 okay what would actually but if it's the case so what you're putting on your face it's it's atoms
03:28:18.540 it's particles uh you're putting them on your face uh to to change sometimes the shape the
03:28:24.860 contouring uh change certain features what would be different between actual just like putting
03:28:30.520 paint on your face and nano robot hold on nano robots that could assemble on your face and give
03:28:35.900 you like stronger jawline and maybe you're not like a completely different person but it it
03:28:41.800 substantially increases your attractiveness how could you actually object to it right so you said
03:28:46.820 this changes someone from like a five to a nine like it changes your makeup the whole shape of
03:28:51.360 your job again like someone said earlier if you still look at someone's jaw with contour on you
03:28:54.400 can see the face of their shape and i don't believe makeup is bringing anyone from a five
03:28:58.180 to a nine so i think makeup can bring a five to a seven five to an eight maybe a nine is a bit of
03:29:04.340 a stretch but makeup can definitely have makeup can have this impact your draw to the woman would
03:29:12.860 either not be nearly as strong if you saw her bare-faced or you might not even be attracted to
03:29:18.600 her period to introduce a feminist argument it's like why exactly would you be supporting an
03:29:23.780 industry that sells insecurities to women to profit off of those insecurities and sell them
03:29:27.220 cosmetics why are you contouring your face you don't have the right bone structure why are you
03:29:30.960 like shaping your eyes because it's fun it's just enjoyable it's not that deep it's fun to like
03:29:35.760 do it are we not reaching that we then have to cover it up sometimes it's just like oh i just
03:29:39.200 feel like better like i feel like i actually don't wear i want to feel better why do you feel
03:29:44.080 enhanced well if it's fun it's always that things are fun why exactly are you changing your appearance
03:29:49.300 I mean that's fun that's fun that's creative well when it comes to making it look natural and that's
03:29:54.420 fun too but when it comes to like actually making it look natural there's insecurities there that
03:29:58.540 we're trying to hide hence why people get fake eyelashes they think that their eyelashes aren't
03:30:02.140 long enough why are you spending so much money because women spend like hundreds of dollars a
03:30:05.640 month on average on makeup why are you spending so much money to cover up insecurities why can't
03:30:10.040 you embrace your natural face Brian is more of a feminist and a woman lover than a lot of the
03:30:13.440 women's on this panel are you a feminist i'm on i'm a feminist on the labia issue i guess
03:30:22.660 a girl can like completely love her natural face and go out with her natural face and the next day
03:30:27.760 choose to put on makeup and still like that sounds like really manipulative language why would you
03:30:31.120 change something that you love can i changing a man that you love that's like moving to another
03:30:35.460 house because you want to move that doesn't make any sense you can change lots of things that you
03:30:39.420 I did not get an answer on my nanorobot face morph thing.
03:30:44.580 Wait, what was the question?
03:30:45.560 So would, do you guys think that that would be deceptive going around the table?
03:30:50.120 Just yes or no, I guess?
03:30:51.760 Yes.
03:30:52.900 Yes.
03:30:53.600 Yes.
03:30:54.320 Absolutely.
03:30:55.160 Yes.
03:30:55.660 Yes.
03:30:56.440 I don't think it would be compared to makeup.
03:30:59.380 It's different than makeup, but it's achieving the same.
03:31:03.920 Well, so is plastic surgery.
03:31:05.040 You said a larger scale of change, to clarify.
03:31:06.120 Classic surgery has nothing to do with makeup.
03:31:07.780 But so, okay, I mean, sure, plastic surgery is a different component of this, but women also regularly employ the usage of plastic surgery to make them more attractive than they otherwise naturally are.
03:31:18.720 And maybe there's some women here who have, show of hands, who has lip filler.
03:31:23.140 I've had lip filler in my life.
03:31:25.180 Have you had lip filler?
03:31:26.480 Lip filler?
03:31:27.000 Lip filler?
03:31:27.460 I want it now after you're writing.
03:31:29.460 I know.
03:31:30.920 Riley, you're causing insecurities.
03:31:33.620 Well, yeah, but I mean, maybe you've had, anyone had Botox?
03:31:36.240 I've had Botox.
03:31:37.240 botox but anyone have fake titties fake titties so it's like maybe as maybe i don't know i think
03:31:45.520 it's not fake yeah i just trimmed it i think you know like what would actually be wrong with a guy
03:31:51.360 buying some nano robots just say makeup at that point like you know like male makeup exists for
03:31:56.480 like male models or whatever like an actor what straight man wants to do that's your prerogative
03:32:00.680 why would a man want to alter their appearance wait wait here can you not put your arms on the
03:32:06.840 table because you're kind of blocking her out a little bit i just don't understand why a straight
03:32:11.100 man would want to alter their appearance or get plastic surgery like i feel like that's like
03:32:15.260 maybe a gay man thing or a actor type of thing you're like a reason to be on television you know
03:32:21.420 well you raise two two very good points so uh as far as makeup goes it's not socially acceptable
03:32:27.600 for straight men right to wear makeup unless you're an actor yeah maybe very very like liberal
03:32:34.440 or like alt-punk women might be okay with it but i'd say for 90 of women it's it's not going to be
03:32:43.100 acceptable no like for their even even liberal i mean we could go around the table like is it
03:32:50.000 your how would how do we frame it like is it your preference to would you be attracted to a guy who
03:32:57.520 wears makeup no no no no okay no anybody any yeses but and then your point on plastic surgery
03:33:06.260 i would argue that uh men getting plastic surgery in a similar vein is uh in terms of assessments
03:33:13.160 from women uh while i think a lot i personally don't like plastic surgery in women um i think
03:33:19.480 it is generally more socially acceptable for women to get plastic surgery the procedures that are
03:33:24.980 available to them are more socially acceptable there really isn't much uh that men can do
03:33:30.680 plastic surgery wise that uh i mean there's some face stuff but i don't know so do you think that's
03:33:37.440 the real issue it's the fact that men can't do it and it's not socially well so i would i i mean
03:33:42.120 i'm against plastic surgery period so i mean my my prescription here is not oh we should make it
03:33:48.900 socially acceptable for men to get plastic surgery we should just well it's not jealousy
03:33:53.440 We should just be against plastic surgery across the board for both men and women.
03:33:58.020 So we should be against plastic surgery and makeup.
03:33:59.320 I personally think it looks weird no matter which way you do it because plastic surgery was originally made for war victims.
03:34:05.480 Yeah, I was going to say exactly that.
03:34:06.760 Can you tilt your mic so it's like pointing towards you?
03:34:09.260 There's a difference between you.
03:34:10.060 So what was your reconstruction?
03:34:11.520 I was saying I think no matter which way you do plastic surgery, it looks weird and unnatural.
03:34:16.080 Like even if you weren't that attractive and then you wanted to fix something about your face, I feel like it almost makes a person look worse.
03:34:21.680 like it was originally made for war victims like why are we doing this to ourselves
03:34:25.120 it just doesn't make clear it doesn't make sense to me yeah i mean just to be clear on the plastic
03:34:30.180 surgery thing of course uh people who have actual you know either injuries or deformities
03:34:35.200 uh i i do make some exemptions for plastic surgery where they are more uh they're not purely for
03:34:42.240 uh vain cosmetic reasons they're like either correcting something or you know you have like
03:34:48.600 half her face was fucking blown off with a fucking i don't know grenade or some shit but yeah you are
03:34:54.320 the origination of plastic surgery was to correct like men who were in world war one like if women
03:34:58.780 have breast cancer then maybe i would want to like yeah sure i think i'm okay i think i'm okay with
03:35:03.180 what about the question of vanity like why exactly are women normalizing plastic surgery for vanity
03:35:08.120 makeup for vanity if it's not socially acceptable for men why is i never thought any of this was
03:35:13.300 normal and i think the kardashians made it mainstream yeah as a heavy makeup uh where can
03:35:18.600 i jump in on this really quick i'd actually be okay with banning the nano tech the plastic
03:35:25.100 surgery and the makeup and all cosmetics because then it levels the playing field and then i'd be
03:35:31.920 totally cool i'll give it all up well that's the thing you two wear makeup to attract the type that
03:35:37.460 you guys are like personality genre like wise attracted to other women wear makeup so as to
03:35:42.860 appeal to men that they want to like be attracted to it all comes down to male attraction that's
03:35:48.880 what makeup is rooted is it does eventually become like like i enjoy doing it it can be soothing
03:35:54.680 actually for me to put it on but at the very root of like why makeup is a thing it's because of you
03:36:00.880 know wanting to be attractive to men we need to go to the root of this it's something that makes
03:36:05.040 you if you we all admit that plastic surgery makes you look worse and that there's an effect
03:36:08.960 that makeup at its obvious points can make you look worse and you could probably look better
03:36:12.820 without it then it's not for male attraction it's legitimately i can see where it started off yeah
03:36:17.780 and that's that men find women attractive like the reason why it's so important for men to find
03:36:23.800 women physically attractive is because it shows that the woman is healthy because they have a
03:36:27.120 higher chance of carrying a successful pregnancy when it comes to eyebrows for example if you have
03:36:30.960 really really thin eyebrows there's a higher likelihood that you were deprived nutrients as
03:36:34.520 a child if you have thicker eyebrows it shows that you were raised in a household that was able to
03:36:38.240 properly give you food which shows that you probably come from a richer family which will
03:36:41.980 probably lead to more prosperous children it's all about reproduction women don't care about looks
03:36:45.680 because they care about a guy who can provide now sometimes that ties into looks because it's like
03:36:48.900 oh he's a hunter gatherer he can kill a pig himself but like the reason why men care about
03:36:53.580 a woman's look so much is because it shows that she's healthy so that's why makeup is deceptive
03:36:57.560 deceptive because it shows that she has good genetics or maybe is more healthy than she is
03:37:01.520 when she really isn't that healthy which goes well then why don't y'all just date women that
03:37:05.240 don't wear makeup because you are so against it but i do friends wear makeup my girlfriend does
03:37:09.100 not wear makeup that's you like pictures with women who have makeup like i'm not seeing the
03:37:13.480 complete opposite when y'all say y'all don't like and when you did your ratings you rated women that
03:37:18.460 wear makeup i would reverse engineer that argument the men who only like women that have plastic
03:37:23.080 surgery and makeup are not typically men that women find attractive because they're seen as
03:37:27.320 superficial dumb and easy to fool so it's kind of like we wouldn't be attracted to a man who wants
03:37:32.860 us all dolled up looking like a sex doll so then why would we turn ourselves into something
03:37:37.020 artificial can i say this too and i think maybe most of the table might agree with me society
03:37:40.780 as a whole like half the table just told riley he'll be more attractive when he's older men
03:37:45.640 get older and women are like wow he's more attractive like silver fox daddy whatever
03:37:50.240 i feel like society has pressure on women we have one wrinkle and then we feel like we need to get
03:37:55.660 some botox whatever because there's a big reason there's a big reason it's because women with
03:38:00.400 wrinkles are infertile most likely that is why that is why men that is why men don't find that's
03:38:05.500 not even accurate that's not true that is the actual reason why men that's not true either why
03:38:11.080 men don't find women with wrinkles attractive or at least as attractive as a woman without
03:38:15.280 it shows that they are of higher age which means that they're less fertile it's not baby soft it's
03:38:19.640 because most men that makes well that's why we feel the pressure that's why we feel the pressure
03:38:24.080 to look to make ourselves look a certain way men are it's more socially acceptable for men to look
03:38:30.480 raggedy have gray hair it's cool because a man who's 55 can easily provide for a family once
03:38:35.360 again i'm going to introduce a feminist argument i'm like what does that mean if we lived in a
03:38:39.040 well-functioning society where youth was not marketable and capitalist prone or whatever
03:38:43.040 women would age gracefully and be matrons within our society giving younger women good advice
03:38:47.580 within marriages that they can then impart to make the society even better the only reason women now
03:38:52.440 are feeling compelled to look younger is because that's the only value in women nowadays in this
03:38:56.840 society but before there used to be a tremendous amount of value in women who are older guiding the
03:39:01.540 younger generations hence the whole idea of a grandmother imparting her skills cooking sewing
03:39:05.920 all of that jazz being strong being able to hold on the fort nowadays women's only value is the
03:39:11.000 physical because we've stripped society away from any family values from any sense of traditional
03:39:15.420 cultural whatever so it's like you're basically destroying your face not because you're trying
03:39:20.940 to cater to men but it's because you don't have a man that makes you feel stable or grounded yet
03:39:25.600 and that's a product of how dysfunctional our society is so we're wearing makeup because we
03:39:30.580 into the into the mic into the mic do you wear makeup for your man at home i do sometimes yeah
03:39:40.700 that's different you wear makeup for a different reason you do it for a cultural sort of like i
03:39:44.800 worry because my husband likes it he likes me both ways nice nice can we also ask the question
03:39:49.980 like i when i went all over europe i it was a very the women over there were very natural
03:39:54.300 and and the men over the when i would run they're not fat when i would run and well i'm just saying
03:39:59.580 they didn't wear makeup they didn't like I had pink toenails they didn't they didn't they weren't
03:40:03.280 into doing the nails thing it was like also a very like I don't want to say just Americanized
03:40:07.120 but it's a cultural thing they're a homogenous nation that basically has prioritized their
03:40:11.500 heritage they know what a French woman looks like they know what an Italian woman looks like
03:40:14.680 natural beauty bodies when it comes exactly when it comes to American women especially in the 20th
03:40:20.700 century when their culture has been ripped from them for the sake of like the post-World War II
03:40:24.620 boom all of our appearance post 1950s has been like commercial doll marketable like look like
03:40:32.200 this look like that when before in the 1800s it was valued that you were a strong sturdy woman
03:40:36.360 who wore no makeup who was going to be resourceful loving caring your character traits were what was
03:40:41.360 emphasized because makeup wasn't a factor beauty vanity was not a value system in a society like
03:40:46.540 that if you go to paris they don't really wear makeup you can have beauty and still have character
03:40:50.300 traits though yes you can but it's like why would you hide your beauty behind the makeup though
03:40:55.960 because oftentimes women are actually way more beautiful when they don't wear makeup because
03:41:00.340 their natural features are shining even if they're older their natural features their their life or
03:41:05.440 whatever is imprinted on their face to you to everyone you oh my god everyone yeah you what
03:41:11.140 to you to you because you judge women falsely to you because you judge women artificially you're
03:41:15.940 No, I just think makeup looks everyone better.
03:41:18.300 I judge women based on a standard of their natural beauty.
03:41:20.940 They are beautiful without any money invested.
03:41:23.480 They are beautiful for their natural characteristics.
03:41:24.520 Are you wearing makeup right now?
03:41:26.260 A little bit of eyeliner.
03:41:27.120 Oh my gosh, it's so deceptive of you.
03:41:28.880 But anyway, what I was going to say is makeup...
03:41:29.840 You have no eyebrows.
03:41:30.820 What are you talking about?
03:41:31.700 No, no, no, we're not going to criticize looks.
03:41:34.180 Not enough nutrients as a kid.
03:41:36.000 What did you say?
03:41:37.180 No, I was saying not enough nutrients as a kid.
03:41:39.560 Okay.
03:41:39.840 No, what I was going to say is I just personally think if makeup is applied correctly on every
03:41:44.080 woman it does make it's supposed to enhance it's not supposed to take away so that's the purpose
03:41:48.660 typically of makeup to enhance your features but what i'm arguing is why are you enhancing it you
03:41:53.000 are naturally beautiful why not because it's number one the financial investment she's from
03:41:57.140 utah yeah i'm actually from delaware i live in utah uh no i just because i like it so my eyebrows
03:42:03.400 are looking more visible on camera than hers it's not gonna lie serious no one cares well at the end
03:42:07.680 of the day when it started that she started that when it comes to a financial incentive once again
03:42:12.400 there's an entire industry targeting women to give them insecurity since they're little girls
03:42:16.640 to get makeup like that one elephant makeup pack that was being marketed to girls under 10 years
03:42:20.700 old that's where it starts why exactly do you think women are basically blaming men for having
03:42:25.200 high like beauty standards when in reality a guy would pretty much date a five without makeup with
03:42:29.660 no problem it's women who are judging themselves too harshly and they're allowing actually gay men
03:42:33.980 to dictate beauty standards for them including the woman is allowing that removal the everything
03:42:41.600 do i have a zempic face no actually you're looking well your look actually looks like
03:42:44.960 leonardo ray to me so it's oh thank you that's like brian can we do a shot or not a shot i need
03:42:50.320 a shot yeah please brian the champagne with that i think you're doing into that taylor
03:42:54.320 yeah robert tanner i don't know i just feel like if makeup was banned it just wouldn't bother me
03:42:59.920 you're gorgeous yeah yeah stop stop stop so uh somebody here has pronouns or something who's
03:43:05.280 that is that you are you the pronoun no absolutely okay i'll have to does anybody
03:43:11.440 here have like well we all have pronouns but are you talking about incorrect pronouns don't worry
03:43:16.380 about it don't worry about it um robert tanner needs to realize that a thousand dollar investment
03:43:20.820 will get you buzzed but like a four thousand dollar investment would just get brian wasted
03:43:24.020 like that's so much that's so much better i am a lightweight so much better i literally three sips
03:43:29.200 i'm fucking four times the cost just a hundred times better but i i i kind of derailed a bit
03:43:34.760 from your question so i got i brought it into makeup your question what is the purpose of the
03:43:39.260 looks rating thing. Uh, okay. So, and did you get into your objections? No, I'm just genuinely
03:43:46.440 curious. Like what, like, is it cause you're like, what is the purpose of looks rating in general or
03:43:50.800 asking it on the, on the podcast? Yeah. Yeah. So I think that, so my position is, I think that,
03:43:56.540 uh, not all women, but a good amount of them typically have a, uh, inaccurate self-assessment
03:44:03.780 of their own physical attractiveness, and typically women tend to over-appraise their
03:44:10.100 attractiveness, they tend to over-rate themselves, and whether they genuinely believe that or
03:44:15.600 not, I suppose is up for debate, but I think it speaks to a bit of, there's ego, there's
03:44:22.060 pride, there's hubris, that on its own, I find kind of unappealing, sort of like, it's
03:44:31.520 not even like an attraction thing. I just, I genuinely, generally find hubris and pride kind
03:44:37.820 of, kind of poor characteristics. I think modesty, humbleness, I think those sort of
03:44:47.880 traits ought to be cultivated more than just excessive pride and that. But I think the
03:44:54.680 big thing is, one of the reasons I ask it is, well, I don't know if it's necessarily
03:44:59.540 reason I ask it, but I can tell you what the implication is for the dating landscape when
03:45:05.680 you have not just the women who come on the show, but I would argue if you go out in public
03:45:10.780 and ask women, how do you assess your attractiveness, there's a degree of delusion. I think a lot
03:45:16.120 of women think they're more attractive than they actually are. And part of this is because
03:45:21.760 since very young, you get the, what is it, the trophy? What is the thing with the participation
03:45:29.140 trophy the you women are princesses and you're you're all amazing and you need to oh my god the
03:45:35.500 world you deserve the world and it's like that's this very disney thing where all these women think
03:45:40.600 that they're disney princesses but the reality is uh or they're kings or not kings excuse me
03:45:45.920 women think they're queens and princesses realistically if we're going to use like um
03:45:50.940 royalty i think most women at best are court jesters like you're not a queen you're not royalty
03:45:57.760 you're you're a peasant i think you're falling you're all peasants i'm a peasant we're not we're
03:46:05.100 not special snowflakes we're all fucking most people are just fucking average and so the reality
03:46:10.440 is though i think a lot of women over appraise themselves they overrate themselves and so um
03:46:17.060 how's that going to play out in the dating landscape if you think you are uh more attractive
03:46:22.440 than you actually are you're going to start aiming for men outside of your league and then that's
03:46:27.460 here's what's going to happen. Uh, there, well, there's a whole bunch of shit that's going to
03:46:30.500 happen. One, the men who are actually on your level, you're settling for them. That's fucking,
03:46:38.240 it's terrible for the men. It's terrible for you. Uh, so if a bunch of women find, like,
03:46:43.360 for example, most women, uh, well, I'd say average looking women want to date above average men.
03:46:50.760 And, uh, it's about 50, 50. I would argue you see a lot more men that are less attractive with like
03:46:56.640 solid eight nine tens yeah well hold on wait but that's because women are really generous
03:47:02.360 with their their uh assessment and ratings of their own and other women's uh attractiveness
03:47:09.240 and really harsh judges uh really harsh judges of men's attractiveness so this idea that like
03:47:16.080 i'll grant to you that sometimes you'll see by the way it goes both ways you'll see like a really
03:47:20.660 hot girl with like a you know she mogs him she's better looking than him you also see the reverse
03:47:26.400 too um however i do think it's the case that if women rate other women higher and are harsh with
03:47:33.600 their ratings towards men then like this you saying that well i see really good looking women
03:47:38.440 with like ugly men i mean okay that's just because you're you're no that's because i'm saying i think
03:47:43.420 we come back to more character like that's what i was trying to say earlier okay i also think
03:47:47.200 insecure women tend to date down than data okay but so my i guess my my point is is that women
03:47:55.220 are going to be chasing after a caliber of man, if they genuinely believe, okay, I'm this, I'm
03:48:03.120 this attractive, they're going to be chasing after a caliber of man that might give them sex, but
03:48:08.240 isn't going to give them a relationship, marriage, a ring, etc. Because there's a difference that
03:48:13.840 occurs when it comes to dating. I think for not all men, right? Not all men. But I think men,
03:48:20.520 how do i frame this the best
03:48:24.320 men will sleep with a woman that he would never just on her looks alone men will sleep with a
03:48:32.840 woman that he would never be in a relationship with he's just using her for sex but he's like
03:48:37.140 he'll go down he'll date down essentially sleep down and so because this is a phenomenon you can
03:48:43.080 have a woman who's a five a six or a seven she can go fuck like a guy who's more attractive than
03:48:49.500 she can she can go sleep with him and like a woman you just got to be pleasant and offer sex
03:48:56.280 that's it and when i say pleasant it's just like don't be a fucking psycho crazy bitch
03:49:00.340 just be like pleasant excuse me sir want some pussy i mean not literally but like that's all
03:49:06.140 it takes for you as women not all not all like hyper attractive men are going to bite on that
03:49:10.640 but like on tinder on dating apps you see the attention go to the top 10 of men on the dating
03:49:16.760 apps. Meanwhile, like the rest are fighting over scraps and pretty much just like completely zeroed
03:49:21.940 out. And so let me, let me just finish. And so if women are not realistic about their own
03:49:29.080 attractiveness, they're going to, uh, reject men who are actually their league, their equivalent,
03:49:35.880 and they're going to be, uh, sleeping with pursuing attempting to date, uh, really attractive
03:49:44.260 men. Now this doesn't play out for all women. Uh, but that's, I would say that's pretty much
03:49:51.420 one, like the, the big issues that I see. And then, um, then as a woman, once you've had a
03:49:57.100 taste of like a really attractive guy, you can't go back. Like there's no going back. And if you
03:50:03.000 do, you're going to feel resentful. Like you're going to, you're going to have resentment for
03:50:06.940 your, your looks league. You're going to, well, not even your, your looks league. You're going
03:50:10.920 have resentment for your league like you're yeah you're gonna have resentment and uh that that's
03:50:17.100 why these women they they fuck around in their 20s they get married at 30 and then like they
03:50:21.440 get married to joe schmo because he's the only guy who will give her commitment meanwhile she
03:50:25.460 spent her fucking 20s uh chasing after hot dudes and just getting ran through by fucking chad
03:50:32.000 and then she's the dick was better he was more attractive he was more psychologically and
03:50:37.240 sexually stimulating because more attractive. And then you're going to maybe pump out one or two
03:50:42.500 kids, and then I'm bored, I'm bored, I'm bored. He doesn't stimulate me. He's not attractive.
03:50:46.960 You're going to divorce him within a couple of years. You're going to break up the entire family
03:50:50.080 when that's actually your looks leak. I would reverse engineer the argument and say that,
03:50:54.280 except for the cases of girls who are very insecure, so they're not really,
03:50:57.340 they're dysfunctional to the mainstream society, and girls who rebel against the norms, which I
03:51:01.420 take that you are, typically women are in the red pill sphere hypergamous. So women usually will
03:51:07.220 focus on a man's social status way more than his physical attributes which is what i was gonna say
03:51:11.600 yeah i feel like you're putting it all on attraction when i'm like for me yeah it's part
03:51:15.520 of it how is he as a dad how is he successful is he driven like there's more than just i don't
03:51:20.260 think for yeah what if the woman i really don't care about looks to be honest i don't either i
03:51:24.720 don't care about looks are fucking i care about looks no chemistry and attraction but there are
03:51:31.980 other things that will add to that yeah but that's not my my argument isn't women only care
03:51:37.340 about looks no no i know i wouldn't care about looks and then like a fuck ton of other things
03:51:41.200 too as and you will figure them out i totally agree men don't care men should care about other
03:51:46.760 things women don't care about looks as much that's exactly yeah exactly i think we are way
03:51:50.760 less superficial i do i kind of disagree with this i actually think women are more superficial
03:51:56.540 I'm pretty superficial.
03:51:58.220 No way.
03:51:59.160 Yes.
03:51:59.680 I side with Brian on this one.
03:52:02.080 So here's my argument for why I think this is.
03:52:05.120 Now, I do think it is the case that, for example, men can make up for their lack of looks through other means.
03:52:11.120 So, like, if he's really confident or he's really funny or if he has status or if he's a professional athlete or he's bringing his personality, whatever.
03:52:20.820 but like very few men actually reach like those high levels where like they will overcome their
03:52:27.200 deficit in their looks like very few like how many men are like that level of funny how many men how
03:52:33.600 many men are that rich how many men are that famous how many men have that amount of status
03:52:37.660 how many men are hyper successful like i could i give you an example real quick look i'll just
03:52:42.920 finish my point but absolutely um so i think for example in terms of my position that i think women
03:52:48.080 uh, care more about looks. I think that of the things that when it comes to looks women care
03:52:53.960 about, uh, those tend to be things that are completely outside the man's control. So height
03:52:59.340 hair, which look, uh, if a guy's balding, he can't like, please don't let me go. But like,
03:53:06.300 he can't really control that. Uh, obviously there's intervention. Like he could do, uh,
03:53:10.880 there there's drugs. He could get hair transplants, but absent, uh, intervention to that degree,
03:53:15.920 if a guy's balding like can't really control it um height penis size men can't control this thing
03:53:23.220 that men cannot control these things and these are things physical traits that women care about
03:53:27.880 whereas uh you know whereas like for men like yeah men like big boobs you can't as a woman you
03:53:35.240 can't really control that men like big butts nice butt which you can you can get through working out
03:53:40.860 But overall it's like just don't be fat
03:53:43.720 For men
03:53:45.060 It's mostly just don't be fat
03:53:47.240 Which women can control
03:53:49.060 But height
03:53:50.620 Hair and penis size
03:53:53.580 Men can't control that
03:53:55.360 Women care a fuck ton about height
03:53:57.240 Men can't control hair?
03:53:58.920 No like if a guy's balding
03:54:00.500 Like he can't
03:54:02.260 He can get surgery or whatever
03:54:04.120 I don't think penis size matters though
03:54:07.000 That's fine for you
03:54:08.380 Can I point out something?
03:54:09.060 I would argue it matters for talking about the average.
03:54:12.180 I would also argue that when it comes to looks, everyone cares about looks because if you're attracted to someone, that's the baseline of you initiating a relationship with them.
03:54:19.540 But when it comes to women, if a man is not attractive to them, they'll be nice to them at first.
03:54:23.680 But if he insists, it starts to feel dangerous when he's unattractive.
03:54:26.900 Men don't have that same complex.
03:54:28.660 So women really, I think, actually do value looks more than men only because if a man is unattractive and insists, you're scared of him.
03:54:36.700 Meanwhile, if a woman is unattractive and she insists with a man, as Brian said, they might just end up using them for sex.
03:54:43.740 No, you have women all the time that are like, I was not even attracted to this guy from the beginning.
03:54:48.100 But they're insecure.
03:54:49.220 They don't follow the norm.
03:54:50.200 I disagree.
03:54:50.900 I think that you can genuinely not be attracted to a dude and then get to know him and become attracted.
03:54:54.580 Very rarely do you find a guy dating a girl saying, I was not attracted to her and I'm with her.
03:54:59.900 I do think there's a baseline level of, I kind of agree with you, but I do think there's, like, a baseline, like, level of physical, like, a threshold of physical attractiveness that they have to get over.
03:55:12.220 But then I do agree that, like, if you like the guy's personality, you tend to find him more physically attractive the more you get to know him.
03:55:20.300 Well, also, in my 600-pound life, as it was brought up, there's a lot of men who will only date what they can get.
03:55:25.460 And it's not a matter of, oh, they found her attractive.
03:55:27.380 It's, like, this is the only woman.
03:55:29.140 You're saying that as a woman you have to be insecure and as a woman you don't have to be insecure.
03:55:34.080 When you're insecure, you'll date someone you're not necessarily attracted to.
03:55:37.400 I disagree with that.
03:55:39.960 Being married before, I'm like, I absolutely need attraction, but that is not the forefront.
03:55:44.720 There are so many other things in my life that are more important than just being like, this is the sexiest man alive.
03:55:49.860 But by that logic, you're basically saying, I didn't find you physically attractive, I only married you for X, Y, and Z.
03:55:55.880 But you also have to factor in that I think the majority of our relationships are now starting online.
03:56:01.040 A lot of people are meeting on dating apps.
03:56:03.280 It's a massive way in which people are meeting.
03:56:05.680 And, I mean, you're going to have to afford the – like, we've done this experiment.
03:56:10.580 I mean, we could even do it tonight, although because I've preempted my point here, I feel like you guys would adjust your answers.
03:56:16.320 We've gone around the table, pulled up Bumble, and just had girls like, yes or no, would you go on a date with this guy?
03:56:22.920 and just on the looks alone women will reject like 90 of the men that they're presented with
03:56:28.480 and it's like so it's like okay well the experience on the dating app is well it's almost exclusively
03:56:36.020 looks and then yeah of course like if the guy's a piece of shit maybe maybe you still fuck him but
03:56:40.600 uh the looks have to come first and so but i'm not saying that there's other things like you
03:56:47.120 can bolster your as a man you can bolster yourself another by the way i think women
03:56:51.240 can also also bolster themselves through their personality okay you're an average looking girl
03:56:56.160 are you pleasant are you not a fucking are you not a hoe um do you fuck do you cook do you clean
03:57:02.920 do you do things for him do you make yourself helpful to him are you submissive um do you have
03:57:07.960 good values etc etc you can make yourself more appealing to men but i mean i would argue that
03:57:16.880 when it comes to to to women this idea that women don't care about looks uh or it's kind of like a
03:57:22.580 minimal concern for women completely ridiculous no no brian i have an argument i just think it's
03:57:27.600 not like as harsh as to most men probably are but i mean wait brian i wanted to bring up my
03:57:34.220 argument here so basically you're familiar with alex stein right yeah of course yeah what would
03:57:39.020 you rate alex stein uh alex stein um well he's a tall guy he's like six four or something yeah so
03:57:46.460 That helps for him.
03:57:47.660 He's funny.
03:57:49.220 But looks-wise, honestly, very average face, maybe below average.
03:57:54.420 Okay, so at AmFest, when I was with him, he was just getting surrounded by women that all obviously wanted him.
03:58:00.280 So that's why it's like, sure, it might not matter.
03:58:04.100 Sure, it matters a little bit for the looks.
03:58:05.660 Well, so to be fair, though, Alex Stein has some, you were at, where is it, CPAC?
03:58:13.300 AmFest.
03:58:14.000 AmFest.
03:58:14.120 Yeah, so, I mean, Alex Stein has a following.
03:58:17.640 He has some status within the conservative circle.
03:58:21.340 Mad race.
03:58:22.240 Women were just, these conservative women just throwing their panties.
03:58:25.980 I mean, essentially, yeah, it was getting close to it.
03:58:28.340 Yeah, especially the Latinx.
03:58:29.240 I would argue against the dating app theory only because Tinder, Bumble,
03:58:32.120 all of these apps were designed after Grindr, a gay dating app.
03:58:35.420 Women don't function the same way gay men do.
03:58:37.240 We're not going to date someone that we don't know because it's just not safe.
03:58:40.460 So the only women who are going out on the majority of these apps are women who are unstable and reckless.
03:58:45.960 I don't think that's true.
03:58:47.000 I met my husband on Tinder.
03:58:49.420 I don't think that's true.
03:58:50.740 I think, like, I actually know several couples who are married that met on dating apps.
03:58:56.800 True, but for 90%, that's anecdotal, but for a 90% rejection rate, I think there's an element of safety where you just don't want to go out with a random guy.
03:59:04.200 If you nail someone who's, like, gorgeous, sure.
03:59:06.660 Hold on, but everyone's a stranger before, like.
03:59:09.480 But if you meet organically, that's different in a safe, controlled environment.
03:59:13.320 But if you're meeting online, that's different.
03:59:16.020 I think it's safer to vet men because I've found, you know, but how would you vet men from an internet experience?
03:59:24.020 Like, stranger danger was an application we were raised with.
03:59:26.720 How is that not applicable to a romantic sexual situation?
03:59:29.280 Yeah, I think, I mean, the safety of dating apps, I mean, there are precautions that a woman can take prior to meeting up with a man
03:59:37.340 that would alleviate most of the concerns.
03:59:42.040 I mean, obviously, you meet in the public place.
03:59:43.960 You have a phone call, a FaceTime call beforehand.
03:59:46.520 You vet them on the phone beforehand.
03:59:47.700 You don't give them your address.
03:59:49.380 Yeah, you meet somewhere public.
03:59:51.880 So, I mean, I don't know.
03:59:54.360 It's a gay dating app modeled for heterosexual dynamics
03:59:57.420 would not work effectively for the same intentions
04:00:00.000 that a gay dating app would work.
04:00:01.280 It's a hookup app just to have sex with whoever.
04:00:03.780 Gay men, obviously, have that for their culture.
04:00:05.440 with Tinder and all of this jazz, if it's a dating app, it's not going to have the same
04:00:09.840 efficacy. I want to go back to, I guess, your point, which is why do we ask this question?
04:00:14.060 Why does it matter? From what I see in the dating landscape, and look, just to be clear, I think
04:00:18.160 men can be delusional too. There's definitely men out there who think they're more attractive than
04:00:22.820 they otherwise are, whether it's related to their looks or something else. They're delusional. They
04:00:27.480 have a big ego. They have pride. But I think there's a difference. I think if a man is like,
04:00:34.040 i'm a 10 i'm the shit and then he goes and like say he could be pleasant and say he makes himself
04:00:40.820 sexually available to women uh even women in his league um but let's say like he he's shooting
04:00:49.620 outside of his league or whatever uh men are gonna men face rejection on the front end women
04:00:56.220 will face a different sort of rejection typically on the back end um so as a man if i go up to a
04:01:02.200 girl and say she's out of my league like say she look i'm i'm fucking 36 i'm pasty um i'm chubby
04:01:10.680 right now poor skin clarity fucking big note like bro i could list like my my deficits and i stepped
04:01:18.620 to a fucking i don't know 25 year old supermodel gen not like the calvin klein like fat woke
04:01:24.700 supermodel like models like a genuine supermodel like i'm getting rejected like it i'm getting
04:01:31.520 rejected. Men will face that on the front end, but I could be pleasant and I could make myself
04:01:40.140 available, let's say. If I step outside my league, I'm really, look, sometimes you get lucky,
04:01:48.000 right? Maybe. But generally speaking, if you step outside your league as a man, you're going to get
04:01:52.320 rejected. I'm not getting a date. I'm not getting a number. I'm not going to get a kiss. I'm not
04:02:00.820 going to get sex not going to get a relationship i get nothing now as a woman as a woman if you
04:02:07.060 shoot your shot with a guy outside of your league and you're pleasant and you make yourself available
04:02:13.500 to him if you understand what i'm saying i'm not saying you have to be like hey wanna fuck
04:02:18.460 but if you're approaching a guy and you're making yourself available to him he's gonna
04:02:25.280 look and say, well, she's pleasant. I can fuck. I'll fuck her. Once, twice, three times. Maybe
04:02:35.020 he'll keep you around friends with benefits. That's why women get in situationships. You're
04:02:40.360 not attractive enough for that guy to want to lock down. And to be fair, sometimes a guy's not
04:02:45.240 in the place where he even wants a relationship, even if it is with a girl who's in his league. But
04:02:49.520 you make yourself uh available and pleasant and you offer up pussy
04:02:55.200 even if that guy is not okay even if that guy looks at you and he's like on her looks alone
04:03:02.260 i would never be in a relationship with her he'll fuck like he'll fuck you he'll use you for sex i'm
04:03:08.240 not saying it's right but he'll do it whereas like i think for women in order for a woman to
04:03:14.300 have sex with a man, that man has to be at least attractive enough that she would be in a
04:03:21.460 relationship with him. So I'll say that again. In order for a woman to have sex with a man,
04:03:27.660 he needs to be at least attractive enough, some level of baseline, that she would be in a
04:03:33.340 relationship with that guy. For men, it's like the inverse. And actually, it's inverse in a
04:03:44.280 night stand it's almost the total opposite when a man's just looking for casual sex one night stand
04:03:51.740 like yeah maybe he'll like ideally it's better to have it with the hottest girl you can get
04:03:56.200 but he will go down to get the one night stand when a woman's willing to have a one night stand
04:04:02.100 or a casual sexual encounter the guy it's not like i need to get laid out just like i'll get
04:04:08.140 it with like an unattractive guy um no actually women will break their rule for casual sex the
04:04:14.160 guy actually has to be more attractive he has to be really hot if she isn't otherwise uh if a woman
04:04:20.800 isn't otherwise interested in casual sex if the guy's like really fucking hot she'll go she'll
04:04:26.860 break her rule in that direction i think you're completely right you think i'm right you're like
04:04:31.680 a girl like i'm looking for a relationship but he's so fucking hot i guess i'll fuck like women
04:04:36.920 will break their rule that way whereas like so so i think there's a difference here so because and
04:04:41.600 And look, I'm not saying it's right.
04:04:42.860 A man will sleep with a woman, and just on her looks alone, he would never be in a relationship with her.
04:04:49.400 He's already categorized her as, like, sex only.
04:04:52.720 It's kind of because men are just, like, more down bad and, like, more willing to...
04:04:55.480 Yeah, well, no, that's true.
04:04:56.300 It's biological.
04:04:57.340 So, like, the rule behind it is when a woman would have sex with a man, for the entirety of the, like, reproductive lifespan, you could say, she has to be pregnant for nine months in order to reproduce.
04:05:08.800 I already understand it's more biological.
04:05:10.060 Yeah, so a woman has to be pregnant for nine months, and then have to take care of the kid.
04:05:14.380 Yeah, and then the man, for him to successfully reproduce takes him like 5, 10, 15 minutes.
04:05:18.420 I understand this, by the way.
04:05:19.880 I know, I'm making the point for people who don't know that, okay?
04:05:22.240 Yeah, it's a podcast.
04:05:24.500 So, I mean, yeah, that's basically what comes down to it.
04:05:26.740 Women are picky because they're like, should I risk having a child with this man?
04:05:29.780 Is he able to provide?
04:05:31.100 While men are kind of just like, stick your dick in anything that has a hole, including Gorlock.
04:05:35.780 So, yeah, that's essentially it.
04:05:37.440 Would you agree that vagina rules the world?
04:05:40.060 done uh no maybe persuades you could say well by by that logic especially the ones especially the
04:05:47.380 big labias like brian by that logic you would have to say that casual sex is a currency that
04:05:51.520 women have and it's not it's oppressive to women it distorts their soul it just makes them
04:05:55.040 dysfunctional so it's it's not that vagina rules the world it's that if a man does do that to you
04:06:00.260 it leaves you wounded and for him it leaves him addicted to sex it makes him a beast you're right
04:06:05.320 yeah it's true i don't know did anything that i say say there did did any of that make sense to
04:06:10.840 any of the women like does that map onto reality for any of you yeah you know i don't know but i
04:06:15.740 also think the amount of lust that men can have due to that sometimes can be a problem yeah really
04:06:19.780 quick um you have pronouns right yeah don't you have pronouns in your instagram bio probably but
04:06:26.800 what are they like fay them or something oh yeah i thought they sounded cool oh those aren't your
04:06:32.340 actual pronouns okay so anyways back to this just really quick finishing off my my point here and i
04:06:38.000 think there's a couple things like why the looks rating matters um so i think also because of this
04:06:44.740 because women can sleep with men say that are outside their league like for example drake
04:06:50.040 he'll just fuck some like good-looking instagram chick who is like socioeconomically completely
04:06:56.480 below him i mean he's probably like selecting for a good look so maybe like she's better looking
04:07:03.920 than him but you'll have like famous men who will date these women so you have like average women
04:07:09.020 who can have access to men who are more attractive than them granted these men are just using them
04:07:15.020 for sex but it's like be pleasant and you're an average looking woman make yourself sexually
04:07:20.140 available like you can fuck men who would never commit to you but who are like attractive
04:07:25.760 um and you see this happening on dating apps like a guy might just be like on a fucking friday some
04:07:31.240 like really attractive dude who's on a dating app oh here's some like chubby average looking chick
04:07:35.880 okay i'll fuck her like well you might object to it but like this is a phenomenon that happens
04:07:41.280 and then that chubby average looking chick is like oh i fucked a dude who's like a nine
04:07:46.560 or an eight i therefore i must be an eight too and then they look at the guys who are like
04:07:52.760 chubby average looking dudes and they're like i can do better but it's like no the guy just wants
04:07:57.540 to use you for sex you got and if you want a relationship you're not going to get the hot dude
04:08:03.160 and you're a chubby average looking chick you're not going to get the hot dude uh go match up with
04:08:08.000 the chubby average look like dude so it's like i think it would it would benefit the dating sphere
04:08:12.760 more if men were slightly more intentional about who they had sex with i'm fine i'm totally fine
04:08:16.640 with that yeah i'm totally fine with that we're also discussing people who are ultimately empty
04:08:20.800 I mean, there's been the subject, as Hannah has brought up multiple times, of character where, yes, looks are important to get your foot into the door.
04:08:26.400 But ultimately, average people are usually in long-term committed relationships with other average people.
04:08:31.540 It's typically the extremes that are really ugly, like the polyamorous people where it's just like a cesspit or really successful and gold diggers are going after them.
04:08:40.200 But averages, so not blackpill, the majority of people are averages.
04:08:43.960 They're dating pretty much within their own field.
04:08:47.080 uh yes for getting uh relationships but if i would argue that like for example i think average
04:08:55.660 looking men don't have sexual access to women who are better looking than them uh who are outside
04:09:01.920 their league but average looking women definitely have limited sexual access to men who are outside
04:09:08.720 of their league now whether they act on it or not is different i'm not saying all women do this
04:09:13.260 I argue all women have the capacity to do it furthermore I would argue this
04:09:17.440 I think that as a man if I have sex with a woman I have a high confidence level
04:09:23.000 I can get that woman into a relationship I don't think women can be quite as confident as
04:09:28.780 like for example let me ask just because you can sleep with a guy how confident are you
04:09:34.720 in all instances that you can get him into a relationship it's harder I feel like you guys
04:09:39.700 would be not quite as confident but i'm very confident if i can sleep with a woman it's not
04:09:45.880 a hundred percent but i'm very confident i can get her into a relationship you're using the wrong
04:09:49.700 value systems it's like saying oh well you know women can sleep with whoever they want sexual
04:09:53.280 access to a woman is not a value metric it's a relationship as you pointed out and a relationship
04:09:57.400 access is not really a value metric to a man who doesn't want to date someone who he just has
04:10:01.680 interest in having sex with you're putting a value metric that men have onto women saying oh you can
04:10:06.540 sleep with whoever you want women don't like that as riley already pointed out we're not really
04:10:11.060 someone continue continue mexico came to us i'm in heaven yeah um women are not interested in
04:10:20.740 having sex with just a random high status man they're trying to secure him and bait him with
04:10:25.040 sex into a relationship whoa wait wait wait hold on i gotta push back on this do you think
04:10:31.060 Do you think that
04:10:33.220 A woman who is
04:10:35.100 Fucking Chris Brown
04:10:36.380 Thinks that there's a high probability
04:10:39.020 She's going to get a relationship
04:10:40.360 She wants a relationship
04:10:41.980 Yeah sure
04:10:43.060 She wants a relationship
04:10:44.720 Remember delusion
04:10:48.140 I understand
04:10:50.740 Yes maybe she does want a relationship
04:10:53.380 But I think pragmatically speaking
04:10:55.020 I think most women who fuck
04:10:56.840 Famous dudes
04:10:57.720 Realistically speaking
04:10:59.580 if a guy's in a relationship
04:11:02.680 they know they're not going to get the guy
04:11:04.160 if a guy's in a relationship with a girl
04:11:06.700 is he really wanting to get her flowers
04:11:08.660 and get her all of this stuff or is he trying to get sex
04:11:10.600 whoever bought the merch wait what
04:11:12.340 if a guy is in a relationship with a girl
04:11:14.380 does he want to be cuddling holding hands giving her flowers
04:11:16.600 or is he using the relationship to get sex
04:11:18.680 likewise if a woman is having sex with a high status
04:11:20.880 man is she doing it because she really wants to have sex
04:11:22.880 with him or is it because she's trying to get a relationship
04:11:24.960 out of him
04:11:25.580 so are you arguing that
04:11:27.920 that women are uh disinterested in sex and their own sexual pleasure and they're using sex
04:11:35.500 as a form of leverage to secure men into long-term relationships if women were interested in sex why
04:11:40.820 do you have an abundance of women saying they don't enjoy it and that men don't give them
04:11:43.940 pleasure and that they're i think it's completely hold on i think it's completely first off women
04:11:48.360 are the ones who have fucking multiple orgasms i would argue i would actually argue i argue that
04:11:54.960 Women derive more pleasure
04:11:56.440 Women are the ones with their legs
04:11:58.680 Fucking like shaking
04:12:00.540 Less than 10% of women
04:12:02.920 In one night stands orgasm
04:12:04.760 Or period
04:12:05.900 Men are guaranteed an orgasm
04:12:08.140 Women are not guaranteed that whatsoever
04:12:09.860 That's on you guys
04:12:11.940 Women don't have orgasms
04:12:14.120 Actually most women don't orgasm during sex
04:12:17.120 That's statistically true
04:12:19.260 I'm sorry for you guys
04:12:20.380 If a woman is unstable and reckless
04:12:22.180 She might have an orgasm with a man
04:12:23.940 in an unstable and reckless situation but for the majority of women our headspace has to be
04:12:28.020 a place of stability and trust to do that look i i don't dispute that yes men like in in a given
04:12:33.260 sexual encounter men are more likely to be the ones to climax like there's no dispute there
04:12:37.620 but to be clear i think like in a relationship um i think like i mean it depends on the women
04:12:43.960 some women have like difficulty climaxing but like most women definitely hold on i don't know
04:12:49.900 Like, maybe I've just been, like, when I roll the dice, I've been lucky or whatever.
04:12:53.900 Or she's faking it.
04:12:55.320 No.
04:12:55.720 I faked a lot, okay?
04:12:57.080 Okay, well, that's fucked up.
04:12:57.940 Like, get this over with.
04:12:59.320 That's totally, wow.
04:13:00.520 That's a lot of women feel like it.
04:13:02.520 You should never fake, hold on, you should never fake an orgasm because it just sets you up.
04:13:07.240 Like, for, you got to be, oh, men are bad communicators.
04:13:11.180 Hold on.
04:13:11.540 Y'all are the ones faking orgasms.
04:13:13.360 Communicate with your sexual partner.
04:13:14.600 They do it for the men, though.
04:13:15.380 Like, they'd be putting you out of business.
04:13:16.940 Can we go around the table and ask every woman who's faked an orgasm at least once?
04:13:20.840 Can we do that?
04:13:21.500 I don't think we have to do that.
04:13:21.740 Sure, show of hands.
04:13:22.600 Who's faked an orgasm?
04:13:23.740 Oh, shit.
04:13:24.720 Yikes.
04:13:25.900 Wait, it's not like the usual, but it happens.
04:13:27.760 Like, it happens, you know?
04:13:28.600 It happens, yeah.
04:13:29.500 Sometimes you're just enjoying yourself, and they think that you did, and you're like...
04:13:33.120 For some sense, it's a bonding thing.
04:13:34.920 I want it.
04:13:35.780 Sometimes it's like an ego boost, though.
04:13:37.620 Like, you know, he thinks, like, he's really putting in work, so I really want him to do
04:13:40.940 it.
04:13:41.940 And we're going to be here for six hours, and I don't...
04:13:44.340 These women aren't having orgasms
04:13:46.840 because they're desensitized from their vibrators.
04:13:48.780 Like, we all know that's the actual truth of it.
04:13:50.580 We've never had a vibrator.
04:13:51.180 Once they get into the relationship, though,
04:13:53.540 their levels of sexual satisfaction and orgasm
04:13:56.520 goes up dramatically.
04:13:57.300 I have a hot take when it comes to...
04:13:59.060 I've never had sex.
04:14:00.480 Oh, my God.
04:14:01.700 Okay.
04:14:03.000 Sorry for the delay, man.
04:14:04.420 Sorry for the delay.
04:14:05.840 I agree with you, Brian Dot.
04:14:07.520 I do no understand why your guests are disagreeing.
04:14:10.760 Thank you, Brian.
04:14:11.440 FYI, I have no room to say nothing else.
04:14:13.800 I bought the champagne
04:14:15.500 I'll do it now
04:14:16.760 Robert Tanner
04:14:18.820 thank you for the big
04:14:21.400 guys W's in chat for Robert
04:14:22.760 thousand dollars
04:14:24.100 what a fucking legend
04:14:26.540 we're going to pop two champagne bottles
04:14:29.360 I'm going to be double fisting it
04:14:31.560 Gigi William I noticed most ladies suggested
04:14:33.720 the young lad to grow his beard
04:14:35.480 quick question what would be your reaction
04:14:37.980 if you meet a man with that beard
04:14:39.840 you like you sleep together and in the morning
04:14:41.880 it's gone?
04:14:42.500 Oh, it's makeup.
04:14:43.620 It's makeup essentially.
04:14:45.300 I've met guys who've shaved.
04:14:46.920 I'm like, ugh.
04:14:47.600 But I liked them, so I got over it.
04:14:50.020 Literally, I know.
04:14:50.800 I have a hot take when it comes to orgasm.
04:14:52.940 Sex is supposed to be a bonding thing that unites two souls.
04:14:55.480 With men, I honestly feel like their emotions are in their private parts.
04:14:59.720 If they hate you, they have violating fantasies about you.
04:15:02.800 If they love you, they make love to you.
04:15:04.100 And if they're annoyed by you, they just F you.
04:15:06.440 It's all a metric of how they're emotionally feeling towards you.
04:15:09.200 When it comes to women, just having that physical intimacy is good enough, where it's just like bonding you to this guy.
04:15:14.800 The climax itself is like a cherry on top, but it's more so just being able to have that intimacy with him that's more important.
04:15:21.500 That's why foreplay is important for women not to climax, but just to have that affection and attention.
04:15:26.760 So that's why I'm like, we're arguing oranges and tomatoes.
04:15:28.880 We're equalizing men and women when they're not the same.
04:15:31.360 I mean, the only thing that really matters is men climaxing, because that's what leads to a reproduction.
04:15:35.440 Yeah, but men also lie about climaxing.
04:15:37.480 yeah yeah yeah a guy lying about why is that the only way how does that yes our pleasure not
04:15:43.240 important when it comes to reproduction the male orgasm is the only thing necessary for
04:15:51.600 how would a man fake an orgasm well they can't get an orgasm if we're dry so you better start
04:15:56.520 making us wet so maybe it's important i've actually like witnessed my ex actually lie
04:16:03.820 about nutting like straight up fucking lie about nutting and you know he'll like he'll do like the
04:16:09.160 did you also witness a lot of sperm like all that extra shit right and i know he didn't know you
04:16:13.340 don't have to look but like he will lie and say that he nutted yeah just to try to make me feel
04:16:18.040 better but like i know you didn't know i'm like so men also lie about nutting the same way that
04:16:24.620 women lie about nutting because we want to make each other or sometimes they're like i can guarantee
04:16:29.320 Men will do it a lot less than women do.
04:16:32.180 Because they're not exactly able to.
04:16:34.100 That's true.
04:16:34.660 The difference is women...
04:16:36.100 I'm not saying I don't fake it, but at the time I don't even have it.
04:16:39.340 Okay, so you didn't believe them, though, right?
04:16:40.960 You instantly didn't believe them.
04:16:42.420 Oh, no.
04:16:42.860 Why?
04:16:44.080 Well, I would know.
04:16:45.500 Yeah, you would know, obviously.
04:16:46.560 Because there's something physical that happens, not just mental, right?
04:16:49.280 So that's why a man can't really...
04:16:50.880 So why do you say that men ejaculating is the only most important thing that women claim it's in?
04:16:56.720 Because when a man ejaculates
04:16:59.260 When a mommy and a daddy love each other very much
04:17:02.100 I know that
04:17:02.720 The man goes inside the woman
04:17:04.200 Finishes and the sperm combines with an egg
04:17:06.560 To make children
04:17:07.500 It's the most important thing
04:17:10.180 It is a lot more important
04:17:11.640 Sex is a hobby to men
04:17:13.320 He's just trying to make the point
04:17:17.460 That the male orgasm is the only thing
04:17:19.400 Necessary for reproduction
04:17:20.820 Which is what sex is actually for
04:17:24.100 It is pleasurable
04:17:25.880 It is meant to be a bonding thing.
04:17:28.180 Like, from a Christian standpoint, it is a representation of, you know, basically your spiritual, you know, the church in Christ.
04:17:37.760 And it's beautiful.
04:17:39.400 But, like, as far as what the organs and all of that system is made for, it is ultimately made for reproduction.
04:17:46.720 Yeah, the entire reason all of you guys want to have sex is for reproduction.
04:17:51.000 The only reason.
04:17:51.640 Except the majority of the guys that are sleeping with women that they don't find attractive are not trying to get them pregnant.
04:17:56.880 Okay.
04:17:57.040 But the biological drive that's underpinning that, it's not that they're consciously thinking.
04:18:03.640 I want to have a kid, but subconsciously.
04:18:04.780 I want to get her pregnant.
04:18:06.080 But we have.
04:18:06.940 It's the base.
04:18:07.400 That's what creates the.
04:18:08.980 Yes.
04:18:09.500 It's the base animal urge driving the behavior, not conscious thought.
04:18:14.160 That's why Christianity is important because with morality, it restricts man's promiscuity.
04:18:17.800 Yes.
04:18:17.980 Without it, he turns into an animal, and animals in the animal kingdom will have sex with whatever movie.
04:18:22.960 Christianity is uniquely beneficial for women because it actually, instead of giving men a pass for monogamy,
04:18:30.320 it was like, no, you both will be chaste and only be with one another.
04:18:34.060 And so it was actually, in my opinion, very liberating for women because women were also considered equal in value
04:18:40.300 in a culture that didn't necessarily believe that.
04:18:44.720 Women are equal.
04:18:45.740 Huh?
04:18:45.940 Women are equal.
04:18:46.720 they're not the same but they're equal like in the same way four quarters is equal to is equal
04:18:50.640 to a dollar spirit not the same spiritually equal spiritually equal because i i do think there's a
04:18:57.040 distinction in like how you know mentally but don't you think that it's important like as a
04:19:03.160 couple to become close and we obviously have uh clitorises for a reason so that we can also
04:19:09.080 experience well it's to incentivize it's to incentivize reproduction okay but i would also
04:19:14.560 I was going to say, for women, once again, it's rare for it to be bonding when you get pleasure.
04:19:19.020 It's just physical contact.
04:19:20.920 Like, affection for a woman, which is why the romance industry is so dominant.
04:19:24.460 For a woman, it's how do you give me attention?
04:19:26.520 How do you give me affection?
04:19:27.980 I'll take some.
04:19:29.440 Do you guys recall your champagne cups?
04:19:31.800 If you want to pass them down, I will refill those.
04:19:35.100 I think I'll put it in there.
04:19:35.960 I didn't have one, so I don't know.
04:19:37.220 I'll take this one.
04:19:37.780 You know what?
04:19:38.240 Maybe I just do.
04:19:40.300 Who wants champagne?
04:19:40.980 And wait, one, two, three, four.
04:19:45.560 Oh, now I'm done.
04:19:46.900 Wait, one, two, three, four, five, six.
04:19:51.220 Okay.
04:19:52.680 I'll be back.
04:19:53.600 Continue on with it.
04:19:54.480 What was your name again?
04:19:56.500 Angelica.
04:19:57.380 Angelica.
04:19:58.020 What's your denomination?
04:19:59.760 Orthodox.
04:20:00.440 Ah, okay.
04:20:00.940 Yeah, Easter's next week.
04:20:02.220 But what happened?
04:20:03.220 Romance for a woman, the industry itself, that's the reason it caters to us so much is because we want to feel in love.
04:20:07.660 No little girl is going, you know, whatever.
04:20:09.800 they're playing house they're playing the romance thing whatever when life gives you the punches
04:20:14.180 you just kind of go okay i gotta be rugged about it the the big romance industry has been incredibly
04:20:20.260 detrimental to relationships it's like porn it is and like i'm sorry but books like 50 shades of
04:20:27.440 gray and stuff like that it's just porn for women yeah it's just that because of yeah because the
04:20:32.920 way prejudice but that's a whole men are attracted to looks while women are attracted to words and
04:20:37.460 And that's why we wear makeup.
04:20:40.480 Because in, you know, erotica, you have all the many pages detailing the relationship building, the context building, the romance.
04:20:49.580 And so women tend to find that, obviously, more, you know, attractive.
04:20:53.680 But, like, the whole, like, romance novel, the romance movies, it sells this, like, horribly inaccurate idea of what relationships really are.
04:21:00.740 They're essentially smut.
04:21:01.680 All these smut novels are direct evidence
04:21:05.100 of why women were not allowed to be authors
04:21:06.900 back in the day. It was such a wonderful time.
04:21:08.680 When it comes to what you were saying, it's true, but I would propose
04:21:10.840 the question. For the average woman,
04:21:13.080 is it more important for them to be able
04:21:14.820 to have that climax, or is it more important
04:21:17.040 for them to feel loved and have that affection
04:21:19.100 in the relationship?
04:21:20.340 When it comes to a man, if you text him
04:21:23.060 okay and you're kind of dry with him,
04:21:25.100 usually they're not going to care because they're just going to take it
04:21:26.960 at face value, but if you're not having sex with him,
04:21:29.100 he's going to feel like you don't actually care about him.
04:21:30.880 which so it's a different metric and i would argue that uh really really quick here did everybody
04:21:36.080 get their champagne no wait i was just gonna say i think more women should care about their sexual
04:21:40.320 pleasure hold on i think so i'm just gonna say that uh cheers to robert tanner salu thank you robert
04:21:52.080 i want to call brian a little bit of a feminist yes and that is because can i say why giving women
04:21:59.680 Orgasms?
04:22:00.480 No.
04:22:01.600 You started off.
04:22:02.580 It's better than some men out there.
04:22:03.780 This right here is the toxic feminism that's ruining, that has ruined men, is what I want to say.
04:22:11.840 What?
04:22:12.480 When you started off with men, women want to put themselves on a pedestal, and women think that they're queens, la, la, la, la, la.
04:22:19.340 In order for us to feel comfortable with men, most women, you have to feel comfortable.
04:22:25.240 and I believe it's a man's duty to make a woman feel comfortable within herself um if I'm giving
04:22:32.000 now don't judge me for my past okay I've obviously changed but if I'm giving my body I want to feel
04:22:38.160 safe with said man and if you're treating me like I'm not like I'm just disposable and not the
04:22:43.600 queen that you think that we're then I mean I just think that was a very feminist point of view to
04:22:50.060 say well women shouldn't be treated like queens they put themselves on a pedestal it's a man's
04:22:53.380 duty to make us feel comfortable if you want to lead in a relationship it's a man's duty to lead
04:23:00.560 and lead by making us feel comfortable and say isn't that oh you're hey princess you're on a
04:23:05.580 pedestal like it's your duty to make it if you want us to lean in and you want to lead the
04:23:10.520 relationship with which i think men should hold on i'm all about that okay then you should have
04:23:14.800 the plan so i can respond so this is a criticism correct not at all wait hold on what why is it
04:23:22.920 criticism I your point is a bit incoherent but so you said Brian you're a feminist Brian
04:23:31.820 no I didn't say that I said you sat you opened up with a kind of a feminist talking point
04:23:36.580 okay I have a feminist talking point which are are you pro or anti-feminist anti okay so it's
04:23:43.840 a criticism right if well I one of the questions before I came on here was what is something that
04:23:49.840 you believe in that may be a little bit high topic or what i'm paraphrasing and my response was i
04:23:54.960 think feminism is ruining society for both men and women not just women okay totally agree but what
04:23:59.720 is my feminist point that we shouldn't be put on pedestals and made to feel like queens
04:24:03.820 if you want a man to leave okay so you disagree wait wait so you disagree with the point i made
04:24:12.320 about women thinking they're queens is that you just said women put themselves way too high on a
04:24:17.960 pedestal. If you want to lead a relationship, then it's a man's duty to make a woman feel safe
04:24:25.420 and secure. And if you're wandering around with the attitude of this woman just thinks she's
04:24:30.040 something she's not, how are you going to lead that relationship? That's the perfect frame. Hold
04:24:35.140 on. Wait, hold on. What? It's a bit incoherent, but I'll try to parse it. So, okay. I have an
04:24:42.640 I have an objection to women
04:24:45.700 viewing themselves as queens
04:24:47.900 because I believe it's a bit
04:24:49.520 it's hubris and it's pride
04:24:51.980 and it was
04:24:54.140 in the context of women
04:24:55.920 having an overestimation
04:24:57.580 of their attractiveness
04:25:00.240 in the dating marketplace
04:25:01.300 but
04:25:03.080 it was also a bit of a joke
04:25:05.640 the queen, why I think it's cringe
04:25:08.100 to refer to, like guys who call themselves
04:25:09.980 alpha male is super cringe
04:25:11.820 if they call themselves a king.
04:25:14.020 I guess that's cringe. Women who call themselves
04:25:15.800 I'm a queen. I'm a boss queen.
04:25:18.380 That's fucking cringe.
04:25:20.080 But treating her like a queen?
04:25:23.560 Am I
04:25:24.080 the king in this?
04:25:25.620 Are you into
04:25:27.640 traditional relationships?
04:25:30.120 If we're taking care of the home, we're cooking,
04:25:32.180 we're cleaning, we're taking care of your children, we carry
04:25:33.900 your children and you don't want to treat us like a queen?
04:25:36.420 What does that mean?
04:25:37.080 How does that make us feel safe?
04:25:39.400 You use the term queen.
04:25:41.020 I have a duty to treat a woman like a queen.
04:25:44.060 So, okay, first we'd have to, what do we mean by duty?
04:25:46.680 And then what do we mean by queen?
04:25:48.460 Like, I'm not suggesting men should, like, mistreat women.
04:25:52.080 However, this idea, I need to treat a woman like a queen.
04:25:54.580 I think women view it like she's the queen and I'm the fucking dancing.
04:25:59.660 Do we have the fucking meme?
04:26:01.180 Hey, well, pull up the Discord.
04:26:02.920 Go into the Discord and it's in the, it's in the memes.
04:26:08.380 Yeah, yeah.
04:26:09.080 Go into the resources memes.
04:26:11.020 it's the like two up two or three up and there's a gif a jif a gif that's like a click on that
04:26:19.140 uh i knew you're gonna yeah click on it click on it and then like click on the photo below it
04:26:25.960 so i think this is what women mean when like like this is dating for men it's not i'm the king it's
04:26:31.660 your fucking jester and like i have to perform for the woman who's the queen like this i reject
04:26:37.980 This is fucking bullshit.
04:26:39.340 I completely reject it.
04:26:41.580 So this idea I have a duty to treat a woman like a queen, what does that mean?
04:26:45.620 So is a queen subordinate to the king?
04:26:49.040 For me, the definition of queen is just making her feel safe.
04:26:51.960 I was just using your words.
04:26:53.140 But I'm just saying making a woman feel safe.
04:26:56.220 Queen is just like an exaggeration.
04:26:57.580 Yeah, you're the one that brought queen.
04:26:59.080 I'm just using your words.
04:26:59.580 No, you brought queen up.
04:27:00.700 Well, because I'm using your words.
04:27:01.840 We're just like waving around with the word.
04:27:03.000 We don't actually think this man needs to make me feel like a queen.
04:27:05.500 He needs to worship me.
04:27:05.940 No, he just needs to make me feel safe.
04:27:07.740 He needs to make me feel wanted.
04:27:09.300 He needs to make me feel all of these things.
04:27:11.060 And I think a woman should make her man feel the same way.
04:27:15.120 I'm not saying that it's one way.
04:27:16.440 I think most women wouldn't actually want a man to kind of like act subordinate to her.
04:27:20.520 A woman wouldn't be really into that.
04:27:21.700 Right.
04:27:22.060 If a guy is over here saying, who do you think you are?
04:27:24.760 Like, you're just here to make babies and that's it.
04:27:27.580 Like, is that going to make a woman want to be in relationship?
04:27:29.880 I'm sorry. It's so hard to parse this because it's like all over the place.
04:27:32.600 It is.
04:27:33.420 Except he wants women to be submissive.
04:27:35.300 Right, that's what I'm saying.
04:27:36.300 You want women to be submissive, but then you think that women shouldn't be put on a pedestal.
04:27:40.600 Yeah, women should not be put on a pedestal.
04:27:42.960 I think you can be submissive when you feel safe.
04:27:45.080 How is that feminine?
04:27:46.260 Wait, most women want the submissive dynamic as well.
04:27:48.140 No, it's actually the feminists, the male feminists, the male feminists are the ones who pedestalize women.
04:27:53.780 It's the soy boy, the liberal men who pedestalize women.
04:27:58.020 But that's like fake feminism.
04:27:59.020 I don't, yeah, I don't actually think that at all.
04:28:02.020 Yeah.
04:28:02.380 Wait, a rejection?
04:28:04.740 I mean, hold on.
04:28:07.360 So there's a bit of a nuance here insofar as, like, in some ways, you'll see from both a feminist perspective, but also almost a conservative perspective, a pedestalization of women, which I personally object to.
04:28:23.500 So I don't believe that women should be pedestalized.
04:28:28.020 Now, of course, you should treat your girlfriend or wife, you should treat her well.
04:28:31.740 you should uh take care of her you should uh well that's being put on a pedestal a good boyfriend
04:28:37.480 be a good husband but but a rejection of pedestalization i don't think is i think the
04:28:44.640 language around relationships are all dysfunctional where it's like people say what do i want what do i
04:28:48.780 want what do i want but a nature of a relationship is self-sacrificial it's supposed to be what can i
04:28:53.040 provide what can i provide and when you have that lens you can have discernment to tell if someone
04:28:57.220 else is going to be a bad bet or if they're going to be someone that can compliment your giving
04:29:01.720 and say, I can basically fit you in this way
04:29:04.420 that a puzzle piece could.
04:29:06.360 Also, when it comes to pedestalization,
04:29:07.980 I think others would agree with me.
04:29:09.880 If a man acted like he was worshipping me
04:29:12.160 and I was on this pedestal,
04:29:13.580 it would be kind of unattractive a little bit.
04:29:16.140 It would kind of give me the ick.
04:29:18.040 It depends on your attachment style, too.
04:29:20.080 Whenever I'm dating someone,
04:29:21.300 I kind of am very codependent.
04:29:23.200 And so when another man's codependent,
04:29:24.620 we're always just kind of very mushy together.
04:29:26.640 But if he's avoidant...
04:29:28.100 Just to wrap up on the original topic,
04:29:31.720 You asked the question of, why do I ask the question?
04:29:37.180 I don't know if that was a satisfactory answer.
04:29:39.880 That was great.
04:29:41.440 I mean, is there anything?
04:29:42.880 No, I think we just had different, like when you said, this is how a woman should be treated.
04:29:45.900 I agree with you.
04:29:46.320 I'm talking to her at the moment.
04:29:47.100 Oh, I'm sorry.
04:29:47.680 I'm sorry.
04:29:48.120 I thought you were talking to me.
04:29:49.080 But, so was there anything, like further disagreement?
04:29:54.400 Do you think that maybe there's an understanding as to why I asked the question?
04:29:59.680 Yeah.
04:29:59.800 Or did I not?
04:30:00.660 No, I get it.
04:30:01.720 I get it. I was just genuinely curious.
04:30:03.680 Yeah, I mean, I do think it is the case that, you know, I think a lot of women, not all women,
04:30:10.740 but a lot of women do think that they are more attractive than they actually are.
04:30:16.240 And this is going to, they're going to select a mate.
04:30:20.280 Like, I guess I would frame it like this.
04:30:23.140 Like, let's say you think your house is worth $5 million, but it's only worth a million.
04:30:30.540 No bias?
04:30:31.120 Maybe you might get some people who come and, like, do a viewing.
04:30:35.720 They might walk through it.
04:30:38.500 They ain't going to buy the house.
04:30:40.200 You might run through it, too.
04:30:41.040 They might run through it.
04:30:41.540 Do you feel like it's mutual with men, too, though?
04:30:44.540 Do you feel like men have a tendency to rate themselves higher or no?
04:30:46.920 Not to the same degree.
04:30:50.000 There are certainly men who are delusional.
04:30:52.480 There are definitely men who aren't kind of aware of their standing.
04:30:58.220 Do you think money and status make them delusional?
04:31:01.120 well that would be a different value proposition but um i i think there's like a total you can do
04:31:08.000 like a assessment in totality so it's like okay well if you're an average looking guy but your
04:31:14.420 personality is stellar and you're super rich and all these other things that might bolster you a
04:31:20.280 little bit but actually you know interestingly enough i actually think there's like massive
04:31:23.800 amounts of discrepancy in the dating marketplace where like for example like the ceo of a billion
04:31:28.560 dollar company uh say he's in like his mid-30s or whatever he's going to have a harder time dating
04:31:34.380 than the like good-looking secretary like that's that's the dating marketplace where like you could
04:31:41.800 have the ceo of a major billion dollar corporation who's making millions and millions of dollars a
04:31:47.400 year maybe like eight figures who has a harder dating life than a fucking like maybe let's say
04:31:53.380 like a seven secretary have we seen sam altman's girlfriend who i have not is she is she can we
04:32:01.320 get this pulled up can we like can we google the the girlfriends uh while you're doing that uh
04:32:07.420 shona can you read this um okay sam altman just sam altman girlfriends will give you the
04:32:14.220 should i read it yeah any real man knows if a woman is faking sorry but women can't fake an
04:32:20.760 org without a guy knowing most just don't care as long as they get theirs brian what the f is this
04:32:26.160 pod you showed your hand not your usual stuff idk but i've been following for a couple years now
04:32:30.440 with rachel last yeah you're that's a total vague post what hand did i show that you objected what
04:32:38.380 the fuck is this what what is your actual uh what did i say disagreed with that you actually
04:32:42.820 disagreed with that comment wait what i said you disagreed when we said women fake orgasms you
04:32:48.100 disagreed with that comment and he just said what are you talking i don't even know if that's what
04:32:51.840 he's referencing the fake orgasm thing as it relates to you showed your hand not your usual
04:32:58.060 stuff um what does that even mean well i don't know that you showed your hand and i don't think
04:33:03.420 i actually yeah no we didn't wait what i don't think the chatter is referencing the orgasm in
04:33:08.720 that part of the chat okay yeah okay oh my god i'm just surprised we referenced a question made
04:33:14.280 three hours ago i was like the whole conversation was because of the question that was uh down
04:33:19.580 drop thank you for the super chat though i have no fucking idea what you're talking about and that
04:33:22.600 only came in like 10 minutes ago so um thank you though uh reminders guys ten dollar display
04:33:27.320 oops what the heck did i just do uh hundred dollar read two hundred dollar tts vetmo cash
04:33:32.160 app whatever pod pull up twitch really quick and then we'll do the sam altman thing it was
04:33:35.600 by the way the ftx scandal oh okay the scandal yeah uh yo guys i need we have 1200 watching on
04:33:43.120 twitch guys drop us a twitch follow and a twitch prime sub drop us a prime sub guys it's been an
04:33:49.140 hour since we last got the prime sub i think it's bugged boys can somebody just like test it out and
04:33:53.620 maybe see if it's working i think it's bugged so if somebody can just clear up the the like
04:33:57.920 something's wrong with twitch maybe just try to clear it up i think if you just somebody just
04:34:01.680 sends in the prime it'll like fix it or whatever it'll something will get fixed you know sometimes
04:34:06.140 you just you know it's like with uh you know your your computer sometimes you just got to restart
04:34:11.280 it sometimes you just gotta send in a prime sub and it fixes the you know sometimes you just gotta
04:34:15.800 smack the printer and it'll it'll start working whatever uh anyways uh there it is saturday thank
04:34:21.600 you for the uh prime appreciate it also guys if you're enjoying the stream like the video please
04:34:26.120 where are we on the likes let me see if i can hold people hostage on the like i think we're hold on
04:34:32.580 we are at 2,200 likes let's get it to 3,000 likes we got 5,600 on youtube guys get us to 3,000 likes
04:34:43.300 please get us to 3,000 likes over there on youtube if you're enjoying the stream uh do you have the
04:34:49.140 thing for the girlfriend or whatever no sigmund fried at the ftx okay is he is she hot or something
04:34:56.560 or opposite yeah but he's a billionaire he's not yeah but he's like like isn't he super autistic
04:35:01.940 and ugly yes yes that's a good point i feel like most billionaires are yeah yeah yeah can we also
04:35:08.820 point out that men use women for money too whoa what and success no it's true it's so true it's
04:35:15.740 so true okay so look we're not look um okay but we're talking in generalities here so like
04:35:22.960 are there male prostitutes yes not prostitutes no i know but i'm like i'm using a other example
04:35:29.080 to articulate my point do male prostitutes exist for for women uh yes but it's super rare so like
04:35:36.540 yeah there are men who use women for money there are women who are sugar mamas or whatever
04:35:41.880 but like the ratio of sugar daddy to sugar mama has to be like for every thousand uh sugar daddy
04:35:49.320 there's one sugar mama but do i'm not talking about sugar like sure yeah obviously well that's
04:35:55.520 manipulative and deceptive the same way makeup is manipulative and deceptive it's like you're
04:35:59.480 basically lying to the girl to get her into bed she's lying to you to get you into a relationship
04:36:03.240 or to get you into a date yeah men should not misrepresent their intentions to get laid
04:36:07.000 once again it's obviously wrong i feel like women a woman using a man for money is just as bad as a
04:36:12.920 man using a woman for sex yeah i agree entirely with that point yes i agree with you absolutely
04:36:16.540 well a woman using a man for money is just as bad as a man using a woman for sex yes i think
04:36:21.140 that's ridiculous i think it's worse for the man to use a woman for sex why is it ridiculous
04:36:25.080 Well, because a woman should actually care about a man's status and how much he can provide.
04:36:29.440 What do you mean if a woman is using a man for his money?
04:36:31.800 If her only intention with that man is to exploit him, then that's wrong.
04:36:35.760 Same way that if a man's only intention is to exploit her, it's wrong.
04:36:38.980 Exploitation is purely adult.
04:36:40.480 You probably need to specify that.
04:36:41.700 There's always a joke going around that says, no one falls in love harder than a broke dude.
04:36:47.080 It's true.
04:36:48.900 And I'm saying that because I'm not a millionaire, but I've had a very successful career.
04:36:54.460 And I usually make more money than the men that I date.
04:36:57.940 And, you know, they liked the fact that I worked for corporate America and then I traveled the world.
04:37:02.720 They like that.
04:37:03.400 Wait, men like that you travel the world?
04:37:05.680 I'm going to counter argue on this.
04:37:06.860 I'm like, women are 100% responsible for the dating choices that they make.
04:37:13.820 That's statistically true.
04:37:15.380 But why is it that so many good men are considered boring, but when it comes to broke men, as you've been mentioning, that are exploitative, they get girls.
04:37:22.620 So it's like.
04:37:23.480 Because they're manipulative.
04:37:24.460 Well, it's not just manipulative.
04:37:25.800 Women choose poorly.
04:37:26.280 You're not looking for the right value system.
04:37:28.140 Women are not oriented or educated correctly.
04:37:30.100 If you're looking for a man, as you've mentioned, that has resources, is going to be a good father, is going to be a good husband, has the good character traits and quality,
04:37:37.000 why is it so common for women to complain about men that have taken advantage of them, exploited them, that have basically used them for X, Y, and Z?
04:37:44.500 They were looking at things superficially.
04:37:46.260 They weren't looking at the things that actually matter.
04:37:48.080 I think they were trying to look at it that way so they could say, like...
04:37:49.600 But if they were looking for that, they wouldn't have been deceived.
04:37:52.040 Wait, sometimes a man...
04:37:53.540 If they were carried away with their emotions, that's easier for them to basically be blindsided
04:37:57.460 by all of these negative qualities.
04:37:59.040 Sometimes a man will give a woman...
04:38:00.300 I didn't pick a guy for money type thing.
04:38:01.500 Wait, what happened?
04:38:02.080 Saying that you're more down to earth so you didn't pick him for money, you didn't pick
04:38:04.880 him for his looks.
04:38:05.660 It's that kind of thing.
04:38:06.660 Kind of, yeah.
04:38:07.120 But that's kind of like the cope that women use post doing an experience like that.
04:38:12.600 What I'm saying is they're not looking for the qualities that are going to make a good
04:38:16.360 husband, a good family, good whatever.
04:38:18.700 They're basically looking for a man that provokes an emotional reaction out of them, whether
04:38:22.060 it's excitement or anxiety much like men are looking for women that provokes lust out of them
04:38:26.320 it's the same animalistic impulse that is destroying both people's lives i would say
04:38:31.160 though i feel like sometimes not even just sometimes a lot of the times it is the case
04:38:34.900 that a man will do everything right show all these green flags and then blindside a woman
04:38:38.460 and just use her anyway or be in a committed relationship and then just cheat on her i still
04:38:42.520 think you can you can tell when a man is doing it out of just wanting it not always wait a second
04:38:48.060 I feel like it hurt to be so common.
04:38:50.720 Yeah, so anyways, moving on.
04:38:52.080 Nathan, let's pull up the React that we have.
04:38:54.360 This is something I saw go viral.
04:38:58.000 Alan Roach, thanks for the super chat, man.
04:38:59.620 Appreciate it.
04:39:02.180 Hide that.
04:39:03.860 Okay, so you know what?
04:39:05.540 Tab over to the image so it's bigger.
04:39:09.640 All right.
04:39:10.820 Okay, scroll down a bit.
04:39:12.040 So Shona, can you mouse wheel zoom it in?
04:39:18.060 That's good, yeah.
04:39:19.080 Can I have you read?
04:39:21.540 Everything?
04:39:22.200 Yeah, starting with the title.
04:39:23.660 Woman who slept with twins days apart told baby's dad can't be identified.
04:39:28.440 The woman reportedly had sex with the two brothers within four days of each other.
04:39:32.580 A court has ruled that it cannot be determined who the biological father of a woman's child is
04:39:37.160 after she slept with identical twin brothers in short succession of one another.
04:39:41.520 The mother and one of the twin brothers took the case to court
04:39:44.360 after the other brother was named on the baby's birth certificate.
04:39:47.000 Well, we'll leave it there.
04:39:48.220 So basically what happened is a woman was, I guess, dating an identical twin, and then she was having sex with both of them, unbeknownst to them.
04:40:02.520 Is this real?
04:40:03.800 Is this a real article?
04:40:04.580 It is real, honestly.
04:40:06.260 How is this even possible?
04:40:07.640 This is way more, not the specific case, but this is kind of more common.
04:40:10.660 I would not, like, in the history of identical twins, the partner has definitely fucked both the twins.
04:40:21.660 So she gets pregnant.
04:40:23.500 She gets pregnant.
04:40:25.620 And I guess there's going to be, like, okay, well, how do you determine, like, who is the father?
04:40:30.640 Because the DNA is the same, right?
04:40:32.560 So they can't actually make a DNA determination as to who's the father.
04:40:36.240 She slept with the both of them in, like, the same time period.
04:40:39.480 so it's like what is the solution maybe legal experts watching in the chat what is the actual
04:40:46.360 legal solution do they i think you cannot if you cannot make an accurate determination as to which
04:40:53.900 one is the father like let's say if she wanted to get child support i think you have to let both of
04:41:00.180 them off the hook for child support wait can we back up one of the brothers wanted to actually
04:41:06.560 take care of the kid that's what i read oh is it because they're twins like identical yeah okay
04:41:10.960 and i think one of them actually was gonna be responsible even though he doesn't know if he's
04:41:16.540 actually the father but one of them was like all right i'll take the blame yeah i mean we could
04:41:20.460 reframe the example in any sort of way you know which let's say um one of them wants the custody
04:41:26.060 uh but but let's say how about neither of them wants the kid right so they're not going to like
04:41:32.900 willingly pay child support uh can the court force like to which one do they force to pay
04:41:41.320 the child support uh assuming neither of them want to pay child support i would did both of
04:41:47.920 these twins know that they were having sexual relations with her or is she like she was cheating
04:41:52.460 okay then i think that's on her i think i think what happened well i read a lot about it i read
04:41:57.600 a lot about it supposedly she was dating one and then kind of like you know this person she broke
04:42:03.420 up with one of the brothers and then a couple of days after kind of like she getting back to this
04:42:07.980 person she just lived with the brother yeah basically that's what happened i do think maybe
04:42:13.040 that's a mental disorder if they're identical wait let's stick on topic here let's stick on
04:42:17.340 topic the question is the question is uh in an instance where neither brother wants to have
04:42:23.540 any sort of uh involvement with the child should one both of them or neither of them
04:42:30.320 pay child support either you had something on yeah i think the best answer here um would be
04:42:35.620 one of them and the way to reach this would to be look at her last period try to time the
04:42:40.420 ovulation and figure out who is most likely like come up with some number where it'd be like okay
04:42:44.580 you're 80 percent you're 80 likely to the father you're 20 likely to the father the 80 would be
04:42:48.540 responsible so just look at her last period like it was what do you mean that's not possible
04:42:52.240 Women's bodies don't work that way.
04:42:53.880 I'm just saying, look at the average.
04:42:55.600 You can't predict that.
04:42:56.700 I'm quite certain if one man had sex four days before she ovulated and another man had sex the day she ovulated, it's more likely.
04:43:03.520 Well, conception dates are also variable.
04:43:05.980 Women's bodies aren't predictable.
04:43:06.580 I'm saying you look at what's more likely.
04:43:08.380 I'm not saying it's 100%.
04:43:09.400 I'm saying something's more likely.
04:43:10.640 I would say when it comes to child support, it shouldn't be allowed unless the man was negligent, abusive, or some form of provable malfeasance.
04:43:19.380 Otherwise, it's 50-50 custody if he wants it.
04:43:21.460 And if not, it's 100% custody to basically discourage women from doing situations like this.
04:43:26.460 Where it's like you're not going to get child support from a man that you unethically behaved with.
04:43:31.120 Well, actually, I think she should get child support from neither of them.
04:43:33.420 She just needs to marry one of them.
04:43:34.900 I think that would be the best solution here.
04:43:36.080 But who would marry a woman that had sex with your brother?
04:43:37.680 I think she's a pig.
04:43:38.660 A lot of guys don't want to marry her.
04:43:40.620 They don't have to pay child support.
04:43:42.360 I guess she'd be cuck maxing at that point.
04:43:44.700 That's so gross.
04:43:45.560 Maxing to the max.
04:43:46.820 Yeah, you're cuck maxing at that point.
04:43:48.120 That's her loss right there.
04:43:49.700 The second brother in this situation, then.
04:43:51.640 She should marry the second brother, the last man.
04:43:53.800 Actually, any woman should marry the last man that she had sex with, actually.
04:43:56.260 They want to marry with her, though.
04:43:57.140 Why are you incentivizing a woman who's made a poor choice to then get financial compensation for it?
04:44:01.360 If it's your body, your choice, as it is in the system, in this feminine system, then her child is her own now.
04:44:06.180 The best option here is for the woman to marry the man she last had sex with, and that applies to every woman.
04:44:11.120 That would be a punishment to that man, though.
04:44:12.860 No, thank you.
04:44:13.320 Because what if he doesn't want to be with her anymore?
04:44:14.900 Well, then he shouldn't be hooking up with a woman.
04:44:17.120 He shouldn't be doing that.
04:44:17.880 He didn't know it was an infidelity case.
04:44:19.760 And as for the other guy, I mean, perhaps...
04:44:21.640 No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
04:44:22.700 If a man has sex with a woman, he should marry her.
04:44:25.200 I think the brother who betrayed his brother should marry that woman and then support the child, regardless.
04:44:30.320 I think he agrees with that.
04:44:31.480 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, the second one.
04:44:32.840 Okay.
04:44:33.340 Yeah.
04:44:33.920 But not because of that, but because she...
04:44:36.900 Okay.
04:44:37.260 But because him and her essentially have a soul bond because they slept together, especially on her end.
04:44:41.620 Women are very emotionally attached to the man that they have sex with due to reasons of, like, I don't know, nine months of pregnancy.
04:44:46.040 Not always, unfortunately.
04:44:47.260 Okay.
04:44:47.840 But like on average, okay, we're talking about averages here.
04:44:50.100 I don't even think, oh, but what about this?
04:44:51.100 No, no, no, yeah, you're good, you're good.
04:44:52.820 She should marry the man who actually, oh, to put it simple, the man should marry the woman who was the second man.
04:44:59.300 I would actually argue when it comes to sex, it is soul bonding, but only in the context of someone that's building a family.
04:45:05.080 That's why when infidelity, the reason it's so destructive is because it destroys lives rather than creates it.
04:45:09.580 So if you're conceiving something in infidelity, it's almost like this is a perversion of the ordered situation.
04:45:15.300 I mean, if a woman is having casual sex, it's still somewhat soul-binding to an extent, which is why it destroys them.
04:45:20.320 But I also argue...
04:45:21.300 You're exchanging energy, and it could be bad energy.
04:45:23.080 But I also argue...
04:45:23.880 You're not exchanging energy.
04:45:25.240 It's not some mystical crystal bullshit, okay?
04:45:27.340 It's like the woman subconsciously is wanting to be with the man because she wants him to...
04:45:31.380 It's a spiritual thing.
04:45:32.480 There are demons in people that you could exchange.
04:45:34.680 Yes.
04:45:35.080 I don't know.
04:45:36.220 You don't believe in demons?
04:45:37.340 I don't know if you have sex, you would change energies.
04:45:39.720 Yeah.
04:45:40.760 There are evil spirits in people.
04:45:43.820 Well, energy, spirit, whatever you want to call it.
04:45:46.160 What is a man's cum, if not energy?
04:45:49.420 What it comes down to is a woman wants to be with a man that she just had sex with
04:45:52.840 because she might be pregnant from him and she needs that man to provide for him.
04:45:56.200 True, but at the same time, once again, a child support.
04:45:58.640 That is why.
04:45:59.520 That is biologically why.
04:46:00.740 That is why it is embedded in a woman's brain to be sexually,
04:46:03.140 or sorry, to be emotionally attracted to a man that she has sex with.
04:46:05.800 While a man, it doesn't matter.
04:46:06.760 Because for him to reproduce, it takes 5, 10, 15 minutes, whatever.
04:46:09.420 For a woman, it takes 9 months and most likely at least 15 years after that.
04:46:13.320 for them to successfully reproduce.
04:46:14.900 They have to take care of that kid.
04:46:16.000 You know what?
04:46:16.340 I retract my point.
04:46:17.180 I entirely agree with you.
04:46:18.480 If you have a child out of wedlock,
04:46:19.800 both of you are responsible for that.
04:46:21.520 I completely overthought it.
04:46:22.920 You're right.
04:46:23.540 In fact, that's what shotgun weddings used to be.
04:46:26.260 I mean, I don't collect child support
04:46:28.580 from either of my baby daddies,
04:46:30.580 and it's because they're both involved,
04:46:32.760 and they pay for our kids.
04:46:35.160 But this is an example of they don't want to be involved.
04:46:37.420 So if they don't want to be involved,
04:46:38.760 I would say...
04:46:39.340 They should legally be forced.
04:46:40.720 Yes, they should legally be...
04:46:41.840 They should legally be forced.
04:46:42.820 Like, for example, in Arkansas, like, just, I'm just giving an example for my state.
04:46:46.880 They, like, I feel like they get into people's business too much and they force, like, when
04:46:50.580 couples that are breaking up don't want the child support or they want to, like, or they
04:46:54.140 would just want to figure it out themselves, they literally force, and it's like 50-50
04:46:58.180 custody.
04:46:59.160 They force people, yeah, they force people to pay child support, and actually, in my
04:47:03.800 instance with my youngest, I was going to be the one, I paid all the child, I paid all
04:47:08.420 the child care, I pay everything, and I was still going to have to owe him $1,500.
04:47:12.820 a month and i had him i have him 60 of the time but we're cool yeah we're cool and we just worked
04:47:20.560 it out and we just worked it out you know and i have more custody but we're cool and we worked
04:47:25.240 it out my ex-husband is i think a millionaire um and i could rake him through the coals but
04:47:31.320 he's an active father he pays for things that's good and is he an active husband was he an active
04:47:37.660 No, we were really young, and he was really stupid.
04:47:39.240 Is he right now, though?
04:47:40.420 To his wife?
04:47:41.240 No, to you.
04:47:42.180 We're not married.
04:47:43.120 He got remarried?
04:47:43.820 Why not?
04:47:43.980 He got remarried.
04:47:44.960 We were really young.
04:47:46.120 He was young.
04:47:46.640 We were stupid.
04:47:47.240 22 years old.
04:47:48.000 But why would he not stay married?
04:47:49.580 Because he cheated on me.
04:47:51.140 Don't you think that created a large effect for your children, though?
04:47:53.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
04:47:53.640 But if you're cheating on someone, that's yourself.
04:47:55.520 I don't want diseases.
04:47:56.820 That is fair.
04:47:57.560 I found condoms when I was pregnant.
04:47:59.620 I don't want diseases for me or my baby.
04:48:01.360 That's not...
04:48:01.880 I'm sorry that happened to you.
04:48:03.100 Yeah, and it happened a lot.
04:48:04.900 and I just said to myself, I don't want my children
04:48:07.340 to watch this. He was hopping out
04:48:09.280 the window. I'm taking care of a newborn.
04:48:11.500 You got herpes? What happened?
04:48:12.700 What?
04:48:14.020 I just heard.
04:48:15.400 He said, why did you break up with your...
04:48:17.100 So why did you divorce your husband?
04:48:19.840 It's a lot bigger than a breakup.
04:48:20.500 He said I kept getting cheated on and I don't want diseases.
04:48:24.140 Oh, I see.
04:48:25.320 So that was the concern of him cheating was the diseases?
04:48:28.180 Valid.
04:48:28.640 Would that not be a big concern for you?
04:48:30.760 Do you want AIDS?
04:48:32.300 No, but that was the concern.
04:48:33.740 not the fact that he's sexually perverted
04:48:36.700 that's what's important
04:48:40.560 he also abused me
04:48:41.900 he was on steroids
04:48:42.820 I don't really want him to get mad at me
04:48:45.420 he probably had a pornography addiction
04:48:48.520 he did
04:48:49.560 pornography should be dead
04:48:52.860 here pull up that
04:48:54.400 well we're friends and I did let him off the hook
04:48:56.480 he doesn't pay child support
04:48:57.380 Shauna could you read this
04:48:59.100 I disagree with great power to unilaterally
04:49:02.960 decide if a child is even born or not comes great responsibility to unilaterally take care of the
04:49:07.900 child sure he can help if he wants to but that doesn't make it his responsibility nor the
04:49:11.840 government's responsibility this is a black guy saying that's what i was gonna say i'm like
04:49:17.460 obviously well well yeah i don't know ammunition for me if she if she fucked identical twins i
04:49:27.680 think they get you gotta let what about oh wait wait what about this and i'm sure this has been
04:49:33.060 posed in like legal classes philosophy classes uh two there's two identical twins one of them
04:49:39.520 commits a murder and they find dna at the crime scene oh my gosh that's hard so they know it's
04:49:46.840 one of them but and assume like there's a aren't fingerprints different though and twins
04:49:53.760 Fingerprints are different, yeah.
04:49:54.840 But it's DNA.
04:49:55.520 Let's say, yeah.
04:49:56.220 It's not.
04:49:57.320 Let's say they found some cum.
04:49:58.240 That happened with the O.J. Simpson case, where it was the father and the son,
04:50:01.020 and that's why they couldn't verify the DNA,
04:50:02.980 where it was most likely the son that killed Nicole Brown,
04:50:05.920 but they then blamed the father, and that's why the glove didn't fit,
04:50:08.500 was because it was his son who did it.
04:50:09.800 He had, like, a whole history of mental illness.
04:50:11.640 We're not.
04:50:12.480 This would go on for 48 hours.
04:50:14.400 Okay.
04:50:14.980 O.J. Simpson.
04:50:16.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:50:16.720 I was born the day he was acquitted.
04:50:18.200 He said I did it.
04:50:18.480 I'm just saying.
04:50:19.560 Nice.
04:50:20.260 Congratulations.
04:50:22.060 Thank you, Mr. Northumberland.
04:50:23.760 for the super chat, $10 display, a hundred dollar read, $200 TTS.
04:50:28.160 If you too would like to get a message in there. Um, but, uh, yeah,
04:50:34.060 I think if there's, well, yeah, in the case of the murder,
04:50:37.080 if all you have is the DNA and you don't have any further evidence and assume
04:50:43.280 that, uh, because both of them are in peril because of this incriminating
04:50:49.100 evidence, it would incriminate both of them,
04:50:51.360 even though only one of them did it uh because both of them are in peril and assume they
04:50:56.280 you know one of them didn't cooperate or whatever um uh because it is your right in the united
04:51:02.880 states to you you have no duty to like self-incriminate you can plead the fifth you don't
04:51:08.700 have to cooperate so they're just like okay we're not gonna uh whatever we're not gonna give you
04:51:13.480 anything so they just have the dna i think in that instance i think legally right they
04:51:19.020 they might still do a trial
04:51:22.460 perhaps I don't know if they put both of them on trial
04:51:24.920 but I think you would
04:51:26.720 probably arrive at having to acquit
04:51:28.860 both of them
04:51:30.280 I don't know anyways
04:51:32.300 innocent until proven guilty if you want to go back there
04:51:34.620 but there's also circumstantial evidence that positions one
04:51:36.640 twin at one location and the other twin at the other
04:51:38.380 with cell phone pains
04:51:39.280 but if the only evidence was DNA
04:51:41.480 if there's a rape all that's left is come
04:51:44.000 like that's all you got
04:51:45.920 I mean the trial would find out like motive
04:51:47.820 and stuff like that no let's say two brothers are bar hopping two twins let's just say one of them
04:51:53.800 let's just use murder i don't want to okay yeah let's just use the murder the murder one just
04:51:58.360 yeah yeah just the murder okay oh so we're talking at the end of the case are we deciding if it's
04:52:04.240 acquitted if they found nothing else throughout the trial it would be acquitted yeah there's no
04:52:09.140 it's just that well i think that if if you only found dna but it wasn't a twin
04:52:15.760 that would be enough of a basis i think to well i don't know i'm not a fucking criminal
04:52:22.820 legal expert or whatever so i don't criminal law i don't i don't know probably even if you do find
04:52:29.220 someone's dna you probably need some other degree of evidence to get a guilty verdict i don't know
04:52:35.520 anyways it's kind of depends on the state it's all right anyways moving on moving on um uh okay
04:52:42.640 here we're gonna get to the questionnaire what is the minimum yearly income to be your future
04:52:46.420 husband six figures assuming i'm also making that much yeah but that's vague that's anywhere from
04:52:50.680 100,000 to 999,000 that's the minimum i said so 100,000 would be the minimum okay it doesn't
04:52:57.440 really matter okay hide the super chat please thank you for your super chat it doesn't matter
04:53:03.840 so you'll date a guy who works at mcdonald's do you have a kid i have two girls but i mean
04:53:08.580 you're married right i'm married and i'm a business owner so i mean i really don't care
04:53:13.240 how much what about you uh 100 000 just because that's what my husband makes okay what about you
04:53:19.440 thanks i mean i wrote 35 000 but that's actually a lie because my current partner makes less
04:53:26.040 so i guess okay the minimum would be less uh i'm married but 50k yeah next i put down 80 000 but
04:53:35.160 i kind of want to switch it to 60 because it just seems more realistic i didn't put down a number
04:53:40.360 because i was thinking of it depends on where we're living at and how much would be like the
04:53:45.800 basics to be able to take care of a family so where we live at right now i'd say like 60 000
04:53:51.480 yeah okay yeah i actually agree with that i didn't put down a number either you don't have one uh
04:53:57.340 also hannah uh not i i wouldn't say who but i noticed on your instagram story you were taking
04:54:03.060 photos with a man is that just like a friend or that's my little brother oh that's your brother
04:54:08.200 i was like is that uh you're on a little vacation with a okay um you don't have one so you'll date
04:54:15.800 a guy who works at mcdonald's then uh no okay so there's a police officer and i've dated somebody
04:54:21.140 who owns a like very successful company so i don't have a minimum but i mean police officers
04:54:26.180 can make good money they can make i mean they can make enough they can make six figures right
04:54:32.380 They average like 65K.
04:54:33.660 Yeah, I was going to say, it's not that, like, I don't see that as a lot of money, but I don't have a minimum.
04:54:38.280 Okay.
04:54:39.160 What about you?
04:54:40.460 I think I put 60K.
04:54:42.100 Okay, next.
04:54:43.020 I put 60K, and as long as they're not relying on me for anything, dating, obviously, for married and things happen, but dating, as long as they're not relying on me financially, then, yeah.
04:54:53.500 Angelica?
04:54:54.060 I put down 45K.
04:54:55.480 My presence online is pretty solid, so I just need a man who's going to demonstrate good characteristics to.
04:55:01.120 Angelica, can I have you just tilt your mic down a little bit?
04:55:03.280 And then, Riley, do you care about a woman's income?
04:55:06.040 It would have to be less than $80,000.
04:55:07.680 I don't want some boss bitch.
04:55:10.280 Can you delve into that?
04:55:11.720 Because I've always wondered about the men who get, like genuinely, who get.
04:55:15.760 So I'll give you an example.
04:55:16.700 Like my girlfriend, she currently works at In-N-Out, and she has a degree in geography.
04:55:20.580 She can get a job making a lot more money, but she told me, I don't want to.
04:55:24.540 I don't want to work up some corporate career ladder and get distracted by it.
04:55:27.340 I'm just going to work at In-N-Out until I get married.
04:55:29.200 That was a maximum, though.
04:55:30.480 So do you have a minimum?
04:55:31.960 No, no.
04:55:32.660 I want it to be zero.
04:55:33.960 Zero?
04:55:34.580 Yeah, that'd be great.
04:55:35.780 You want to provide.
04:55:36.600 You're a provider.
04:55:37.940 Angel, I will provide.
04:55:38.900 Does she bring you like burgers and...
04:55:40.720 No, they're a corporation.
04:55:42.460 They can't.
04:55:42.820 They don't give up.
04:55:43.200 But also a degree in geography.
04:55:44.940 But she could buy it for you.
04:55:45.680 She could.
04:55:46.880 It never happens though.
04:55:47.800 A degree in...
04:55:48.520 What's going through here?
04:55:49.500 You don't want to do that.
04:55:49.740 Riley, I have a question.
04:55:50.900 Why you wouldn't date a woman that makes more money than you though?
04:55:53.680 Because she's probably a feminist.
04:55:55.540 I'm not honest.
04:55:56.960 No.
04:55:57.260 If a woman is making 100 grand a year.
04:55:59.880 What makes you assume that?
04:56:00.480 though because if you're making 100 grand a year that means they focused on their education they
04:56:03.500 probably went to college they probably got fucked 30 times so you don't know why does that equal
04:56:08.900 that she's educated hard-working ambitious has aspirations and goals i have to admit i don't
04:56:15.100 want a woman who has goals of having hey i want to have seven to ten kids i'd be like great i want
04:56:20.900 you to be my wife i don't want a woman who has the goals like i want to make a bunch of money
04:56:23.480 that was my goals growing up i grew up very mormon that was literally ingrained in our brains like
04:56:27.940 i got married at 20 i'm one of 12 kids i got married at 20 i had a kid at 22 and 24 and i
04:56:33.980 felt like in a lot of ways i screwed myself over because when i don't he's a drug addict
04:56:37.780 it's kind of a big one yeah but when you're young i'm saying i didn't know that yeah like well so
04:56:42.220 i'm saying i put myself on the back burner i don't have aspirations of becoming a boss bitch
04:56:47.300 as you say i want to be a mom i want to be a wife but i'm saying i do feel like there's a level of
04:56:51.380 like i should have probably prepared myself a little bit better so i'm not in this position
04:56:55.880 That's what I'm saying
04:56:58.400 Being raised Mormon is a different thing
04:57:00.320 When you have a nerf ball as you did have
04:57:02.700 Tragically be thrown at you
04:57:04.160 It throws you off your path
04:57:05.460 But I agree with Riley because I have always made more money
04:57:08.480 Than the people that I've been dating
04:57:09.780 It's just natural
04:57:10.540 But at the same time I can recognize the power imbalance
04:57:13.780 In any other woman has already been mentioned
04:57:16.600 If they put you on a pedestal
04:57:18.280 You're no longer attracted to them
04:57:19.560 And that's been said over and over again
04:57:20.920 So if you're making more money than them
04:57:22.860 You automatically have more power than them
04:57:25.020 and that emasculates them and you're no longer attracted to it.
04:57:27.180 Women shouldn't even have this type of backup because you're saying
04:57:29.080 oh I want to have some type of backup. Here's what most
04:57:31.120 women do. I think I'm not saying that.
04:57:33.000 I think you should have a backup if the man is showing
04:57:35.120 signs of abuse and you're already locked in.
04:57:37.200 You can't only just start up a backup. The woman's backup should
04:57:39.100 be her parents. But also a lot of women
04:57:40.900 So are you saying women should have secret
04:57:43.180 bank accounts? You're coming for a plan.
04:57:44.540 If a man starts to show those signs
04:57:46.880 start planning P basically.
04:57:48.900 If a man starts to show infidelity or abuse
04:57:50.860 or whatever start to plan otherwise.
04:57:52.880 Try to get out basically.
04:57:53.940 exactly but if a man but you shouldn't go into the relationship with the mindset of oh he's
04:57:58.840 gonna do this to me so i have to put this yeah but let's say something happens to you where
04:58:05.720 you're ill and you can't work then what happens then she has life insurance okay well here's the
04:58:10.100 problem though is too many women go into marriage with this framing of he's gonna cheat on you he's
04:58:15.440 gonna beat you he's gonna blah blah blah and they want the backup or whatever self-fulfilling
04:58:19.000 prophecy so i think if you are going into a marriage thinking well i need a backup just
04:58:24.060 in case all this happens because you always like hear these stories but yeah they're really the
04:58:28.160 outlier yeah i wanted to ask i wanted to ask and i understand where you're coming from because you
04:58:32.880 feel like you came out of a relationship without everything do you know what the birth rate in
04:58:36.640 america is per what for each woman how many kids that they have it's 1.6 right so the average woman
04:58:40.860 has less kids than what is for the replacement levels okay so almost every single woman that
04:58:46.380 I've met that's working a big career or in college right now. They're just doing it as a backup and
04:58:49.920 then they'll get married later. So this is what happens. Carl's 18 years old. She's like, oh,
04:58:53.140 I'm going to take a gap year before I go to college. I'm going to go to Europe and fuck a
04:58:55.480 bunch of guys. Then they come back. They go to college for six years or whatever. Then guess
04:58:58.720 what? They're 25 when they get out of college, but oh, they have a bunch of student loan debt.
04:59:01.740 So then they wait five or six or seven years to pay it off. She's like, well, I want to pay off
04:59:04.880 my student loan debt before I get married. And before you know it, they're 32 years old. Then
04:59:08.360 they find a guy. They date him for about two years. Then they're like, what, 34 years old.
04:59:12.000 And then they get engaged for a year.
04:59:13.280 Then she's 35.
04:59:13.980 She has her very first kid at 35 years old.
04:59:15.980 Then when she tries to have a second kid at 38 years old, she's like, oh, wait, I'm infertile.
04:59:19.440 By the time a woman hits 30, if she is unmarried and doesn't have kids, she has a 50-50 chance of ever actually getting married and then having kids.
04:59:35.300 The average woman in America has a kid after the age of 30 years old.
04:59:38.040 Yeah, and that's part of the reason the maternal mortality rate has gone up.
04:59:41.640 because women are having children.
04:59:43.240 And autism and disabilities.
04:59:45.080 Yeah, they're having them later.
04:59:46.680 Why are women having kids later?
04:59:48.700 Guys, guys, guys, only one person at a time.
04:59:52.300 We can't, nobody can understand.
04:59:54.660 The higher chance of autism doesn't occur until after 35.
04:59:58.060 So I do agree with that point slightly.
05:00:00.400 But if you have kids, excuse me, after 32,
05:00:03.080 the chances for miscarriages and pregnancy complications start to rise.
05:00:06.140 And that's trauma.
05:00:07.260 That's 100% true.
05:00:08.360 Okay, let me speak, because I actually had a baby.
05:00:11.640 at 22, and then I had a baby at 25,
05:00:13.760 and then I had a baby at 37.
05:00:15.360 We are not
05:00:16.740 made to have babies that late in life. I had
05:00:19.480 two little ones in my 20s. I felt
05:00:21.380 fine, energetic. I have one
05:00:23.660 little one now, and I'm dead
05:00:25.640 beat exhausted. And his dad
05:00:27.720 is involved, so dead beat exhausted.
05:00:29.820 And you kick-started it young. That means your
05:00:31.760 reproductive system was already used to it. With a
05:00:33.800 woman trying to start from scratch at
05:00:35.720 like 32, hormones, it's going to
05:00:37.800 be terrible.
05:00:38.320 surrogacy is an industry because of birth control destroying women's uteruses also their brains
05:00:49.740 i hate it so much that's what made me that's what made me right wing in part surrogacy is very
05:00:56.060 similar to prostitution and that's that a woman is selling out her body becoming mentally traumatized
05:01:00.680 after doing the job and getting paid a large amount of money it is people using a woman's body
05:01:05.200 I mean, some people
05:01:08.520 want to do that
05:01:10.040 No, but that's the thing
05:01:11.680 No, but we should not allow them to
05:01:14.980 I know women who want to do that
05:01:16.700 but it's because they're poor and they just need the money
05:01:18.440 and they're just so numb that they're like, you know what, I'll just do it
05:01:20.900 for 60k, the moment they give birth
05:01:22.460 the hormones start to generate
05:01:23.960 and it's like, 60k, 80k, 100k
05:01:26.500 I can't relinquish this baby anymore
05:01:28.520 there's something dysfunctional
05:01:29.660 It's unhealthy for the baby
05:01:30.780 And not only that, because of the contract
05:01:33.860 In fact, even if she goes back on it, which a lot of women do, she can't go back because
05:01:37.540 the contract says that that's not your child anymore.
05:01:39.700 Yeah.
05:01:40.040 So it's terrible.
05:01:41.400 And I wanted to go back.
05:01:42.420 So you're kind of saying like, oh, it's their choice if they want to do that.
05:01:44.440 And so I wanted to ask, if I go to like some poor neighborhood in LA and I know somebody's
05:01:47.920 not going to be able to pay their rent on time and they're afraid of becoming homeless
05:01:50.240 and I say, hey, I want you to eat a bunch of crayons.
05:01:52.820 I'm going to pay you $100.
05:01:54.100 I'm going to live stream it.
05:01:55.100 It's going to be great.
05:01:56.000 Do you think that's immoral for me to do that?
05:01:57.600 Even if they decide, oh yeah, I do want to do that.
05:01:59.600 I am desperate enough for that money.
05:02:01.300 Yes.
05:02:01.540 It's extortion.
05:02:02.200 It absolutely is extortion.
05:02:03.920 Yes, with surrogacy as well.
05:02:05.440 The cases of surrogacy that I've personally seen are like people that are close to a person who can't have a child.
05:02:13.360 Do you know the woman that was pregnant for nine months and got her child stripped away from her?
05:02:18.780 Or the woman who got her egg and got her husband's sperm and had some young woman's life destroyed from psychological trauma?
05:02:25.340 I don't know anybody on a super personal level, but I have heard stories of the pregnant people who care about...
05:02:33.020 You've heard stories?
05:02:33.920 Of course, women.
05:02:35.020 My sister.
05:02:35.380 I would argue philosophically.
05:02:37.140 Philosophically.
05:02:37.980 Is it okay to allow something just because someone consents to it?
05:02:41.860 Is there not a responsibility on society to say this behavior is not allowed?
05:02:45.060 It doesn't actually necessarily destroy it.
05:02:46.700 There is certain circumstances where consent is what matters.
05:02:51.500 But what about the MAID program, for example?
05:02:53.060 People who are mentally ill.
05:02:54.140 Michelle, you've got to let people finish their thought.
05:02:57.380 When it's not about money, I think that it's perfectly acceptable for consent to be the only thing that matters.
05:03:03.640 That's my sister-in-law did that for her sister.
05:03:05.840 Well, also, she's probably not mentally traumatized because now it's her niece.
05:03:08.400 When it's not incentivized by money or any other kind of power.
05:03:12.280 That's different.
05:03:13.140 But what about something like the MAID program where it's not incentivized by money?
05:03:16.600 I don't know what that is.
05:03:17.720 The MAID program is something that's becoming more and more popular, where they're basically allowing, like, to self-terminate, basically, based off of just how you feel.
05:03:26.540 It happened in Spain with this really famous case where a girl was just violated.
05:03:30.360 Like, yeah.
05:03:30.500 Yes.
05:03:31.080 Okay, I'll show you.
05:03:32.000 So, and not only that, they harvest your organs before you're fully expired, basically.
05:03:37.060 So, in a functional society, in a good society, do we allow people who are behaving in a way that can be so easily exploited to behave that way?
05:03:46.460 Absolutely not, because when you're in that state that is a mental illness and you need to be treated with care, you can't make, it's like when you're in court and they're deciding whether or not you're mentally able to testify or whatever, it matters what mental state you're in.
05:04:03.640 Do you think we're normalizing mental illness as a means to behave in certain ways, meanwhile stigmatizing common sense, so as to facilitate people to hurt themselves and profit from that?
05:04:13.880 I think we stigmatize mental health a lot as a society, and this goes back to, I don't
05:04:18.760 want to bring up the transing again, but when you're like, oh, why is that a mental health?
05:04:22.020 It's okay to call things mental.
05:04:23.860 I have PTSD.
05:04:24.880 That's a mental health problem.
05:04:26.000 It's okay to say that.
05:04:26.820 Wait, you have PTSD from what?
05:04:29.600 Marines?
05:04:29.920 Marines in the Marines.
05:04:30.640 Yeah.
05:04:31.380 Oh, from the Marines?
05:04:32.520 Did you get paper cuts from the mail?
05:04:34.380 Like, what's going on with that?
05:04:35.360 I was sexually assaulted.
05:04:36.440 Okay, sorry.
05:04:37.240 Is that okay with you?
05:04:39.120 No, I'm sorry.
05:04:39.640 I didn't know.
05:04:40.220 I mean, you said from the Marines.
05:04:41.340 Do you know how many women are sexually assaulted in the military?
05:04:44.260 Yeah, that's why they should be in the military.
05:04:45.620 Maybe be careful.
05:04:47.180 You can't get mad at me for something I have no idea about.
05:04:49.240 Yeah, that's why you ask and you don't say shit like that.
05:04:51.440 And then we're attacked.
05:04:53.060 Yeah, I did ask her.
05:04:53.780 She said the Marines.
05:04:54.480 She didn't say, oh, I was great.
05:04:55.340 She said, oh, the Marines.
05:04:56.380 Did you get paper cuts or something?
05:04:57.260 She said the Marines, as in it's from her duty.
05:04:59.300 To the side of this conversation.
05:05:00.260 Well, it was.
05:05:00.760 I got attacked by a man.
05:05:01.800 No matter what it is.
05:05:02.720 No matter what the mental illness is.
05:05:03.940 And then I was slut-shamed afterwards.
05:05:05.520 Is that okay with you?
05:05:06.940 As you were saying?
05:05:07.620 I'm sorry.
05:05:08.040 no matter what the mental illness is you have to you you can't just fully let somebody make
05:05:14.520 their own decisions when it is based off of that mental illness yes whether it's ptsd or gender
05:05:20.400 dysphoria or any of these things you you kind of you have to take that into consideration when
05:05:26.620 they're making choices do you think a woman's natural instinct to give birth and then have it
05:05:30.980 be taken away from her might be okay i gotta move on we're off topic here um in any case a woman's
05:05:36.920 career money status uh yeah i think we were just uh oh riley you're just making the point of
05:05:43.800 uh not really caring about the woman's income uh do any women have any objections to this
05:05:51.240 no about men not caring about it yeah like for example i one of the questions or statements is
05:05:58.280 a woman's career money status uh makes her more attractive to men many of you agreed to this
05:06:03.240 i think generally speaking men don't really care all that much about a woman's career
05:06:07.180 her money or her status insofar as it making her more attractive i disagree some don't some do i
05:06:13.500 get used a lot yeah for that yeah but it doesn't but they're using you out of a necessity like a
05:06:18.720 financial necessity but it doesn't make you more attractive it can though no so many men have said
05:06:24.260 that it's so attractive that you are like in like independent i'm speaking in generalities yeah
05:06:29.440 there's hobosexual men who it shows like hard working it shows that you're hard working it
05:06:33.620 shows that you're disciplined it shows that that's not an attraction trigger if a man wants a hard
05:06:38.780 working those things can make you a better mother too if you have those traits hey tiffany can you
05:06:42.640 get them some water please um yeah men don't really care about what i like to not work and
05:06:48.720 rely on a man yes i would i think men that want to use you care about those things but no most
05:06:53.860 most men it's not like wow she's really hard working like yeah men do say this like wow
05:07:00.060 yeah ambition we want you ambitious in other ways i've never heard a man say that ever yeah like
05:07:06.360 ever i say exactly what you're saying yeah all the time say say what that's like you want women
05:07:11.640 ambitious in other ways like they want somebody who's passionate has ambition but doesn't have
05:07:15.020 to be related directly to like a workforce ambition for the family ambition for me right
05:07:22.280 they're not mutually exclusive like loyalty i've heard it i've heard men like basically respect
05:07:26.560 women for their accomplishments but i've never heard it be a deal breaker for a man for a woman
05:07:30.140 it's a deal breaker but it can it can foster respect and it can definitely but also i'm
05:07:35.340 what they're basically saying is this something that in general is like a value system for a woman
05:07:39.880 and it or for a man and it's not it's it's like an added bonus to a man but ultimately if it gets
05:07:44.740 in the way of the relationship that's a negative yeah but i feel like as a person that is sitting
05:07:49.440 here and they're looking at the woman they know that they want to provide for them they don't
05:07:52.280 care it can easily be downgrade for women though for all men i'm saying just both types of men
05:07:56.480 exist a lot of successful men date women who are super low profile like most most successful men
05:08:06.060 date in their status wait like mark that doesn't necessarily mean that they make as much money as
05:08:11.740 no but they they're basically looking for the pedigree so they'll have sex with whatever but
05:08:15.420 they have to for the status of it basically marry someone within that sphere but if you have
05:08:19.700 notoriety like for example jeff bezos you'll basically date whoever you want because you're
05:08:23.820 in another level it's more about attraction and who you want to live your life with when you're
05:08:28.740 successful you're not looking for somebody who's also successful it's more about who you can parent
05:08:33.960 with well i can agree with that too you can build a life with who you're attracted to the amount of
05:08:39.680 men that i'm like i do not need him goodbye and like i've given up on relationships because i
05:08:44.140 physically like literally do not need them is well it's kind of freeing but also at the same time
05:08:49.320 with money and that's exactly if you're not afraid of them well what is it right of them
05:08:53.900 he's just cautious no it is unattractive for a woman to be independent well what if we have to
05:08:59.300 be independent yeah do you want me to live off the government i'm over here like not living off
05:09:04.340 the government paying into the government like well for a woman i'm not i'm more attractive
05:09:09.280 I pay high taxes
05:09:11.980 Hold on, hold on
05:09:12.680 There we go
05:09:15.020 Alright, I'm going to answer the questions
05:09:17.300 I heard about half of them, you guys were yapping a lot
05:09:19.280 So basically, earlier
05:09:21.440 All of you guys were saying, oh yeah, a man likes a woman who's dependent
05:09:23.700 And you're like, oh, mm-hmm, mm-hmm
05:09:25.600 And then I'm like, a man doesn't like a woman who's independent
05:09:28.820 And you're like, oh, mm-hmm, mm-hmm
05:09:29.980 And eight of you started talking all at once
05:09:32.000 Like it's actually retarded
05:09:33.240 Because I said the exact same thing, phrased in a different way
05:09:36.360 And then you guys lose your absolute crap
05:09:39.000 So when a woman is independent, it shows like, wait, why is she so independent?
05:09:42.320 Maybe her father didn't provide for her.
05:09:43.860 Maybe she has family issues.
05:09:45.160 Why is she so independent?
05:09:46.020 Is she going to be the one who provides?
05:09:47.140 There's obviously something not psychologically there that will make her a great traditional
05:09:50.200 stay-at-home mom.
05:09:51.160 So that's why men don't find independent women attractive because it shows that they had
05:09:54.060 some type of trauma as a child or a teenager or a young adult that makes them not want
05:09:57.820 to be with that woman because guess what?
05:09:59.040 Men like women who have the least amount of trauma possible.
05:10:00.940 So do you want them to be codependent?
05:10:02.880 Would that be attractive to you or like-
05:10:05.100 I like nice things.
05:10:05.660 Do you want them to be codependent or independent?
05:10:07.180 Do you want me to use a man?
05:10:08.960 But you don't like clingy women
05:10:11.180 So most men don't like clingy women
05:10:12.760 He didn't even say anything about clingy women
05:10:13.880 It's not about that, it's like just saying in general
05:10:16.280 He doesn't want an independent woman
05:10:17.940 So he must want one that's clingy
05:10:19.600 So shut the fuck up
05:10:22.300 One person at a fucking time
05:10:24.660 How many times do I gotta fucking tell you guys?
05:10:27.980 God damn
05:10:28.580 One at a fucking time
05:10:30.820 Come back to the table
05:10:32.860 Riley is 21 years old
05:10:35.660 He's not at that level
05:10:36.860 where he's thinking like oh this and that he's looking for the ideal partner he set himself up
05:10:40.380 correctly he's basically raised himself to have a career he's done everything the right way when
05:10:44.700 it comes to someone who's had a difficult life when they're older they're going to look for
05:10:48.040 someone else who can understand that they don't want to marry someone like riley where it's like
05:10:51.540 you're not going to understand this life that's how i feel because i'm like i would love to be
05:10:56.020 dependent on somebody but i i feel like i was put in a position where i i have to be rely on my
05:11:01.060 kids yes yes there's no way like i think it'd be unattractive if i was not independent as a mom
05:11:06.700 And you're on welfare and like you should find a man that is going to be someone who's wounded by a similar experience and will understand that pain and compliment you and give you that life that you've always sought.
05:11:15.920 I've seen that happen before.
05:11:17.420 Exactly.
05:11:18.460 I think there's a complete difference between saying that you're dependent or independent and being codependent.
05:11:23.180 Codependent is like a partnership.
05:11:24.520 It's not completely dependent on someone.
05:11:26.440 It's not trying to push someone else away from you at the same time.
05:11:29.380 There are different types of dependency.
05:11:31.180 You can be financially dependent on someone while still being able to handle yourself emotionally.
05:11:38.940 I would want my wife to be somewhat emotionally dependent on me.
05:11:42.940 Like to ask you every time she has a feeling and wants to ask on it?
05:11:46.520 No, just somewhat.
05:11:47.020 Just to run it by.
05:11:47.800 Just somewhat.
05:11:48.920 Maybe about half.
05:11:49.760 But with financials, entirely.
05:11:52.340 And just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with your stance.
05:11:55.320 In fact, I agree with your stance.
05:11:56.960 That's great.
05:11:57.220 But some women, like me and Hannah, we have to provide for our children.
05:12:03.480 I'm 41 years old.
05:12:04.580 I don't want to rely on mommy and daddy.
05:12:05.880 Why?
05:12:06.040 So they can also control me?
05:12:07.520 No, thank you.
05:12:08.000 I also like nice things.
05:12:08.960 I like to travel.
05:12:09.920 I just like those things in life.
05:12:11.260 And if I'm going to be sitting around waiting on Prince Charming, I'm not going to be getting those things.
05:12:15.440 Well, to be honest, it's because you're in your 40s.
05:12:18.200 That's why it won't happen.
05:12:19.080 Also, wait, Riley.
05:12:19.600 Why won't happen?
05:12:20.600 That Prince Charming is not going to come along.
05:12:21.820 I don't want Prince Charming.
05:12:22.780 Is that okay?
05:12:23.620 I was going to say, you don't want her to be emotionally dependent on you.
05:12:26.160 you want her to be financially dependent on you cool i understand that's your preference what if
05:12:29.280 you like obviously this isn't the case but you turn out to be this evil person you fuck her over
05:12:32.680 you cheat on her and it's not always a self i'm not saying you are i'm not talking about you as
05:12:37.340 a person as an individual i'm just saying in a hypothetical the man does that and it's not
05:12:40.840 always a self-fulfilling prophecy yeah but what if he's not like riley doesn't strike me as a man
05:12:44.760 who's going to cheat on his wife he's been thinking about her needs and wanting to prioritize her
05:12:48.140 whatever so there's plenty of men who are going to give her that you could rephrase it there's
05:12:52.780 plenty of bad men you can maybe you could rephrase it in a way and there's plenty of bad
05:12:56.140 women okay you can rephrase it in a way that may be like oh what if a girl who's you know dependent
05:13:00.100 on the man then the man she's on her instead of bringing up me into it okay i was not actually
05:13:04.260 ever about you no no i know i know i'm just being technical yeah she's on her um just like turns
05:13:08.580 out to be like a really bad person isn't a good father like there's so many different factors that
05:13:13.200 can make a man not a good candidate you know sometimes in life you have to roll the dice
05:13:16.800 i'm still talking suddenly she's in a position where like what's she gonna do she has a kid
05:13:22.000 she's got to worry about all that you just said oh i'm still talking i've probably been the nicest
05:13:26.380 with not interrupting people you haven't been nice you asked me my ptsd came from a paper cut
05:13:31.920 yeah but that wasn't an interruption okay well he's saying i'm still talking was you're still
05:13:36.580 salty about that that had nothing to do with what i mean well you would be she was talking
05:13:40.380 and while she was talking okay can we continue that was a good reminder yeah whatever that was
05:13:44.420 a good reminder it was a good well it's also like a stereotype your turn i did i did to be
05:13:49.780 completely transparent i did tell a fib in my relationship status i'm not engaged i've actually
05:13:54.880 been married i am a married woman i have way more money than my husband does way more money i did
05:14:00.740 not get a prenup namely because i have full trust in my husband if he betrays me then sure that'll
05:14:06.460 be agony but at the end of the day when you get married you have to give them full trust otherwise
05:14:10.860 why are you getting married to them okay but you have to be one has so much more to lose
05:14:14.680 you have to look for the qualities that you need in a spouse you need to look for a man who's going
05:14:22.300 to be a good husband a good father that's what happened in my parents we're acting like men
05:14:28.440 don't pretend to be good people and then just no can you repeat it again i said one has a lot
05:14:33.520 more to speak in that situation like financially in terms of what happened to your parents i mean
05:14:38.860 i don't really like airing this out in public but you just mentioned i know i know i understand
05:14:42.260 But my dad was the perfect husband.
05:14:45.660 He showed up in every way necessary, and then he cheated on her.
05:14:49.500 So then he's not the perfect husband.
05:14:51.100 Yeah, but up until that point, everything was perfect.
05:14:54.060 Right.
05:14:54.380 Okay.
05:14:55.540 I'm sorry, girl.
05:14:56.960 I'm very sorry.
05:14:57.880 I'm so sorry.
05:14:58.500 Yeah, I'm sorry.
05:14:58.880 That's really hard.
05:15:00.020 That's really hard.
05:15:00.620 I'm so sorry.
05:15:01.280 I'm sorry.
05:15:01.720 It's okay.
05:15:02.240 I'm so sorry.
05:15:03.240 But that's the thing.
05:15:04.480 The thing is that when it comes to men like that, it's like if they're career-driven,
05:15:08.580 and I argue that for the same thing for men,
05:15:10.040 And if they're career-driven or materialist-driven, saying, I'm going to provide this for a woman, then, yeah, they might think indiscretion is okay because they provide whatever.
05:15:18.080 That's actually what happened with my grandpa.
05:15:19.600 It super traumatized my mom too much.
05:15:21.980 But still, I'm like, if a man doesn't prioritize family, if his conviction is not, I want to do this for my wife, for my children, then that's not a good man.
05:15:31.180 If he's saying, I want to do this because that's how you get women, then that's kind of an indication of he's going to look around and justify himself.
05:15:38.160 Yeah, but people change.
05:15:39.320 I think it's just hard because people change.
05:15:40.800 I, to this day, will say, I think I married the right guy.
05:15:43.500 I will stand by that.
05:15:44.920 I think that he changed, and I think that that affected me and my kids.
05:15:47.940 He was a different man 20 years later than when she first married him.
05:15:50.780 I really don't think people change.
05:15:52.380 I think they just get revealed.
05:15:54.080 I think they get revealed.
05:15:55.040 He changed.
05:15:55.480 Whatever's already there, he will manifest it.
05:15:58.020 Especially if there's money in the equation,
05:15:59.800 money will make the worst toxic qualities out of you come out.
05:16:03.040 So if a woman is throwing themselves.
05:16:03.740 It wasn't money, it was loneliness.
05:16:05.700 And it is for a lot of men.
05:16:06.880 Because they're lonely.
05:16:07.860 When it comes to marriage
05:16:09.560 When it comes to marriage
05:16:13.680 Before people are getting married
05:16:15.880 They are asking the wrong questions
05:16:18.420 They're not asking the right questions
05:16:19.880 Before they get married
05:16:21.780 To know if those people align
05:16:24.580 So that's when people are getting revealed
05:16:27.160 As this person you didn't think they were
05:16:29.020 Because you weren't asking the right questions
05:16:31.000 Gotta move on
05:16:31.560 Sorry
05:16:32.840 My mother asked all the right questions
05:16:36.500 Yo, Shona, read this for us, please.
05:16:38.520 We have a chat coming through.
05:16:41.060 Thank you, Ty.
05:16:42.660 Big fan, Brian.
05:16:43.700 I'm from Andrew's fan base.
05:16:44.820 Just wanted to say that I keep to myself, but want to give Chair One her props for standing her ground and always returning.
05:16:51.260 She's dope.
05:16:52.560 All right.
05:16:52.880 Nice little comment for you there, Shona.
05:16:55.140 Thank you, Ty.
05:16:56.340 Appreciate it.
05:16:57.380 How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
05:17:00.440 I'm 5'4", or almost 5'5", actually.
05:17:03.080 Minimum height, 5'7".
05:17:04.840 Okay.
05:17:05.580 Have you ever had a boyfriend?
05:17:07.160 No.
05:17:07.600 Okay.
05:17:07.880 What about you?
05:17:09.220 I'm 5'1", and the minimum, I would say probably 5'7".
05:17:12.720 Okay.
05:17:13.080 How tall?
05:17:13.700 You're in a relationship, right?
05:17:14.880 Or you're married?
05:17:15.580 I'm married.
05:17:16.140 How tall is your husband?
05:17:17.740 He's 5'9".
05:17:20.020 Okay.
05:17:20.460 What about you?
05:17:21.680 I'm 5'6", and the shortest, I guess I'll go, is 5'7", 5'8".
05:17:27.380 And you're also married?
05:17:29.700 Yes.
05:17:30.740 How tall is your husband?
05:17:32.380 5'9".
05:17:33.740 Okay.
05:17:34.120 What about you?
05:17:35.160 I'm 5'6", and I wouldn't really say I have a minimum.
05:17:39.040 I mean, I think I put 5'2", but it doesn't matter to me.
05:17:44.160 Okay, how tall is your boyfriend or whatever?
05:17:48.680 I think he's 5'9".
05:17:49.880 Okay, what about you?
05:17:51.400 I'm 5'6".
05:17:52.640 I think I put 5'7".
05:17:55.000 And you're married?
05:17:59.720 Yeah.
05:18:00.180 Yeah, how tall is he?
05:18:01.600 He's 6'0".
05:18:02.440 Okay, what about you?
05:18:03.180 i'm five five i can't remember i put five ten or five eleven either one for me
05:18:08.660 and my fiance is six foot three okay i got lucky
05:18:12.440 um i'm five three and a half and my partner is five ten and i think i put five nine
05:18:20.820 yeah you uh i'm five eight i mean height is great because it makes me feel more feminine but i dated
05:18:26.900 a guy that was five nine you you say that as if to be five nine which is the average male height
05:18:34.000 as if it's no i think i'm taller for a woman so i'm saying i like i like to like it would be nice
05:18:39.300 a good preference to have somebody taller just because it makes me feel more feminine
05:18:42.400 but my first boyfriend after my divorce was five nine and that wasn't like but it seemed like
05:18:47.600 that's a deficit even though you would like it's well because i do want to feel feminine i do want
05:18:52.440 to feel like I think it's fair you want to feel small what about you um five one so like I think
05:19:00.680 I put five six okay next I'm five six five seven depending on my hip placement of the day um but
05:19:07.640 I like short kings I'll date I've dated short kings before um okay five five five seven all
05:19:14.680 right Riley do you have any height preferences or just uh probably shorter than five foot eight
05:19:20.760 or five foot eight and shorter how tall are you
05:19:23.200 oh okay i'm just kidding yeah i don't really uh what about you brian
05:19:28.560 oh i mean i don't really have a massive high preference i'll date shorter i'll even date
05:19:34.380 taller i guess some men have an apprehension to dating like like women who are much taller
05:19:40.400 much uh i think men some men might have an apprehension to dating taller women but i
05:19:45.920 I don't care.
05:19:46.600 It'd make for better athletes, I guess.
05:19:49.120 Like, bigger sons, that's always a good thing.
05:19:53.240 But, like, in terms of, like, general attraction,
05:19:56.660 I would say have a general attraction to petite women.
05:20:00.220 But for sons, like, give me, like, a 6'5", just fucking not fat.
05:20:08.480 Like a linebacker.
05:20:09.460 Not fat.
05:20:10.380 You're like a thick.
05:20:11.540 She's sturdy, you know, for the children.
05:20:15.260 for the sake of the children
05:20:17.060 the child's very hip
05:20:18.220 I'll sacrifice
05:20:20.460 I'll sacrifice my like
05:20:23.020 actual interests
05:20:25.300 like my actual preferential
05:20:27.640 attraction for the sake of
05:20:28.840 having warrior children
05:20:31.480 I guess
05:20:31.920 let's see here any disagreements with the show
05:20:35.440 Shona
05:20:35.940 you think they push
05:20:39.540 the narrative against women too much
05:20:41.400 says Griselda
05:20:42.680 uh okay what do you mean by that um i have followed the show for a while and i just feel
05:20:49.440 like sometimes they push it too much you know especially you uh give me an example uh i don't
05:20:56.960 know just earlier probably when you were saying that you know that you wouldn't well also him
05:21:04.120 that you wouldn't date someone that makes more money than you like i feel like like if you know
05:21:09.040 a woman making more money disqualifies her or, like, makes her unattractive?
05:21:14.560 I think that's, I don't know.
05:21:15.940 Sure.
05:21:16.400 I find that weird.
05:21:18.220 Okay.
05:21:18.900 So I guess we can probably do split here.
05:21:23.080 Well, one, I didn't quite state that.
05:21:25.220 That was Riley's position.
05:21:28.420 Wait, can you restate the question?
05:21:32.580 I'm going to reject your request.
05:21:34.900 So anyways, back to this.
05:21:36.340 um so yeah i don't think it's wrong for a man to have a preference on a woman's income
05:21:46.400 and if that means like he just doesn't care at all about her income i think that's totally
05:21:51.260 fine i don't think mind you though you wrote this before the show started before this revealed
05:21:58.120 conversation um i don't see how that would be a narrative against women it almost seems like
05:22:03.980 it's actually a privileged position for women to be in, for men to be willing to take on
05:22:08.640 essentially the entire financial burden in a relationship, that actually seems like that's
05:22:14.480 to the benefit of women. I mean, I feel like some woman might appreciate that. I don't because like
05:22:20.740 she said, I'm very independent. I mean. Okay. So a billionaire comes along and he's like,
05:22:25.220 a condition of you being with me, let's assume he meets all your other criteria,
05:22:29.040 is you have to stop working. Do you take the deal? No. That's retarded.
05:22:33.980 i'm sorry that's so retarded so even as a man where i have like a sort of there's a biological
05:22:39.040 imperative to provide if a like a billionaire woman comes to me is like hey brian uh yeah i'll
05:22:45.920 be with you and so she meets all my and she meets all my other criteria and she's like hey i'm a
05:22:50.580 billionaire you don't have to work let's just like fuck me all day and take care of the children
05:22:54.420 i'm taking the fucking deal like i'm taking that deal but it's amazing to me that women where your
05:23:00.840 biological imperative isn't even to provide i wouldn't i will get super fucking bored what do
05:23:05.980 you do for work i i actually am a business owner i mean i do everything okay your business what
05:23:11.240 business do you own uh i own two vegan restaurants you own vegan restaurants yes so just be clear
05:23:17.620 by the way restaurant business i understand is is a lot of work it's stressful uh and you own
05:23:24.900 two of them two restaurants a billionaire man comes along no vegans don't play
05:23:30.320 well I mean if a billionaire man was in the picture you could do you could go way further
05:23:37.740 with your vegan activism than owning two restaurants but um but Brian I have a question
05:23:45.240 for you do you ever have like like for example like for me during the summer like you you have
05:23:50.800 a block of time where you have nothing to do no routine no productivity nothing that you're
05:23:54.080 working towards and feel really like intellectually under stimulated intellectually under stimulated
05:24:00.200 or just like you like sometimes productivity actually feels really good i mean my goal is
05:24:04.900 to be pumping out like seven children uh how many do you have huh how many do you have well you know
05:24:11.400 i'm a little i'm a little slacking on that but uh i it's in the it's in the works but you have 30
05:24:17.340 years i got some time i got some time to do it but uh just never i mean my my whoever i'm gonna
05:24:23.640 to end up with she's gonna have she's gonna be plenty preoccupied with the children and i honestly
05:24:28.940 want her to be homeschooling them so she's gonna have yeah no i'm not gonna send them to the school
05:24:33.920 to get transed um if i could homeschool i would i agree is raising children not productive yeah
05:24:41.860 i'm saying like it is productive but some women like might have aspirations beyond that and still
05:24:46.720 that's and also like before the time that they're having children or after the time after other
05:24:51.080 children get older closer to the mic closer to the mic oh yeah you've just been propagandized
05:24:54.620 yeah this idea i genuinely have the desire to work one day like really why where did you get
05:25:00.080 that desire because i i want to go into health care i want to contribute to the health care
05:25:03.800 system why why so much because it's interesting to me who taught you that and i care about it
05:25:09.000 you to want that no one taught me that i came to your biology to want to have children and to raise
05:25:13.380 children it is not instilled in your biology to have some boss lady career but not every desire
05:25:17.440 that humans have is instilled into their
05:25:19.140 biology. Wait, can I ask a question?
05:25:21.580 What do you think about me
05:25:23.100 not taking, purposely, because my
05:25:25.020 ex-husband is a millionaire and I can take a lot of money
05:25:27.180 from him and I don't, what do you
05:25:29.120 think about that? Why are you bringing that up?
05:25:31.340 You love to bring it up. I'll get there in a second.
05:25:33.400 What do you think about that? I mean,
05:25:35.300 that seems somewhat noble of you.
05:25:37.160 Okay, so then in some terms
05:25:39.440 you're okay with independent women.
05:25:41.460 No, I just said I think you should be married to them.
05:25:42.300 It's because I'm independent that I'm able to do that.
05:25:44.020 Going back to the Griselda point, I think the reason Griselda's
05:25:46.700 not going to date a billionaire is because passionately speaking, she wants a man who's
05:25:50.440 going to give her that electricity. And it's like, that's what she's biologically wired to do. She
05:25:54.220 doesn't want a man that's just going to give her money. She wants a man who's going to give her
05:25:56.500 passion. I really don't. I mean, again, I can probably... It's just like pragmatically super
05:26:00.820 retarded. It's like... It is. Like, I have like a passion for, you know, espousing some of this
05:26:07.660 shit. But if some like super hot big labia billionaire woman comes along and she's like,
05:26:13.240 brian give me seven children uh but hey look um i want you to be an active father and like this
05:26:18.500 podcast look you're successful maybe you make like seven figures a year or whatever but like you know
05:26:23.900 come on sweep that off the table i thought you wanted i'm taking the fucking deal like i'm
05:26:28.580 taking right if it's a woman with a big labia let's say who's gonna cancel everything you wait
05:26:34.660 if there's if it's a woman with a big labia that meets all of your physical and lust
05:26:38.140 requirements would you choose that over a billionaire woman so wait okay the tooth it's
05:26:43.280 she has a big labia but she's or yes or uh she's a billionaire who's gonna sweep you off your feet
05:26:49.620 tiniest labia you've ever seen i'll take you away from it you're gonna choose what's gonna make you
05:26:54.640 feel emotionally like this is what i want so you think what do you hear i'll give you my answer
05:26:58.440 but what do you think i'm gonna pick big labia nope oh no that's crazy yeah how's that yourself
05:27:03.740 Everything you just said has been...
05:27:06.540 If you have the option to just lay back, why wouldn't you take it?
05:27:10.540 Look, I like a woman with big labia, but like...
05:27:12.540 With big what?
05:27:12.940 How long is that going to last?
05:27:14.560 I don't think you understand.
05:27:15.560 Well, it's going to get longer over...
05:27:18.020 Unless you have a labia plastic.
05:27:20.840 But Brian, let me ask you.
05:27:21.960 If you found this miracle billionaire woman with a gigantic labia, what would you do if you're married?
05:27:28.140 You have seven children with her.
05:27:29.720 Wow, snort.
05:27:30.320 You have seven children with her.
05:27:31.540 Very attractive, yeah.
05:27:32.800 Thank you.
05:27:33.220 You have seven children with this billionaire woman with a gigantic labia, even bigger than her bank account.
05:27:38.160 What would you do if she got a labiaplasty after you had children?
05:27:42.300 And it was bothering her.
05:27:44.920 She was miserable.
05:27:46.800 This would be a conversation, and I would strongly guide her away from it.
05:27:52.100 And given the type of relationship dynamic I want, I would hope she would defer to my leadership on this particular issue.
05:27:59.900 But you're, I'm assuming in the hypothetical
05:28:01.780 Granting that she's going to do it regardless
05:28:04.040 Yes, yes, exactly
05:28:05.080 She's a billionaire
05:28:08.680 Yes, yes
05:28:09.900 I thought you didn't like a boss babe
05:28:11.920 I'm so confused
05:28:14.120 Okay, okay, in another thing
05:28:15.220 If a woman were to get a labiaplasty
05:28:19.880 If a woman were to get a labiaplasty
05:28:22.860 Would you prefer that it's a reduction
05:28:24.100 Or an increase
05:28:25.480 And this increase would go to six inches
05:28:27.540 No woman would get an increase
05:28:29.260 Which one would you prefer?
05:28:30.120 I don't think they have the, I don't think they actually, I mean, they could.
05:28:35.320 Which one would you prefer?
05:28:37.260 A labiaplasty, totally getting rid of it.
05:28:39.560 Like female genital mutilation, just a hole there, two holes.
05:28:43.000 Or would you prefer them to get an extension?
05:28:45.700 Would you prefer them to get an extension?
05:28:47.440 Make it six inches.
05:28:48.560 Oh, God.
05:28:49.800 Wait, so this is just about, this is a labia question, yes.
05:28:52.820 Yes.
05:28:54.580 You're the labia guy.
05:28:55.660 I don't know if they can even do extensions.
05:28:59.260 they put two deli ham slices there extension you'd go for the extension i'd take the kind
05:29:04.560 of botox it would just be weird like but if i had you really would between so she gets the
05:29:14.280 labiaplasty and she has an innie versus she has an audi but then i'm not talking an innie i'm
05:29:19.180 talking like female genital mutilation like there's tools are left over that's it yeah there's
05:29:23.820 no lips yeah yeah yeah i mean porn stars do that the extension i'll take the extension the six inch
05:29:29.780 extension i take it bro i take it i'll tie it into a knot raise your hand if you think that's gay
05:29:36.500 i'll tie it into it he wants to dive into it thank you wait if what is it what's gay do you think
05:29:41.660 that's gay what no six inch labia no not at all it's just more pussy oh my god women get yeast
05:29:50.900 infections from gigantic labias women get a lot more problems i don't think it's gonna look like
05:29:56.400 it so pussy does rule the world then i almost feel like it's gay wait it's gay to not like
05:30:04.980 audis because it's like labia are you talking about labia now it's just like never i'm not
05:30:11.880 gonna go there is it an audi a sign of higher testosterone on average it might you know what
05:30:16.580 I'm not sure it is.
05:30:17.140 I have some theories.
05:30:18.720 Like, for example, I've noticed sometimes women who have a bit more body hair, like some arm hair, I look at them, I'm like, she might have an outie.
05:30:30.780 This is from personal experience, not from looking.
05:30:33.380 I have some theories, you know?
05:30:34.880 Well, typically when it comes to high-powered men in stressful positions, which I would qualify Brian as being, and he likes dominant women who are just going to take control from him.
05:30:43.340 So my bad luck makes sense for the lobbying.
05:30:46.280 equation he just said he wants a woman to defer to him to be submissive he could say that but the
05:30:52.200 big lobby uh hairy arms maybe she wants to be dominated by the labia let's call it a lobby
05:30:57.620 it's not a lot like a hotel lobby labia it's still it's still a woman subject it's still a
05:31:09.460 subject matter it doesn't make it gay it's still it's not gay i argue that it's not gay but what
05:31:14.680 i'm saying is if you want a woman with extra testosterone and you're in a high control group
05:31:19.300 typically men who are in those high positions like dominant women because it gives them i don't
05:31:24.060 like dominant women go control that big you'd be with a million a billionaire
05:31:28.600 you said you would be with a billionaire woman over the love of this isn't this isn't contrary
05:31:34.320 to my position it is very much contrary he said a billionaire he said that a billionaire is an
05:31:41.340 exception, not the rule. Hold on. Yeah. Okay. Well, you just said you don't like
05:31:44.860 independent women too. You guys are attributing like things that don't even exist. First off,
05:31:49.800 recall when I said she's a billionaire, but she meets my other metrics, right? So like my other
05:31:55.060 metrics would be like, she defers to my leadership. She, she's submissive, et cetera. So no, I don't
05:31:59.880 have an attraction to dominant women. I find them quite off putting. Uh, it's independent
05:32:05.160 dominant though. Like if you're an independent woman, we were talking about dominant. Her claim
05:32:08.700 was dominant women. Would you like a woman
05:32:10.660 with a bigger labia than your gender?
05:32:12.500 Labia!
05:32:14.020 Labia.
05:32:15.720 I swear you just started saying that.
05:32:18.840 She can.
05:32:20.780 My labia.
05:32:21.580 I'm fine with that.
05:32:23.260 That's like some world record
05:32:25.860 labia though.
05:32:27.080 Have you ever heard of an O-shot
05:32:29.840 or a P-shot?
05:32:31.300 I'm wondering what you think
05:32:33.880 about O-shots and P-shots.
05:32:35.440 I don't know what that is.
05:32:36.320 so it's you get your blood drawn and dare I say I've had this done you get your blood drawn and
05:32:44.000 they separate the plasma from the blood and the plasma has stem cells and you if you're a man you
05:32:50.200 inject the tip if you're a woman you inject the clit and the vaginal walls and it's supposed to
05:32:55.320 make you orgasm a hundred times better how you got the big lady you did no this was this I got
05:33:00.540 this after the labiaplasty real yeah that's a real thing that's a real thing yep and it works
05:33:06.200 okay yeah you got it i don't know i got it done yeah oh damn what are your thoughts where were we
05:33:11.520 i totally forgot where we were i don't even know we're talking about height we're talking about
05:33:16.980 height what are the pros to this dating requirements what about birth control
05:33:21.100 disagree i'm against what about it i think i'm a guy it goes to hormone and all this stuff but
05:33:26.720 But it prevents accidental pregnancy, which under your world view, I would assume, prevents abortion.
05:33:30.060 Are we good for this, Brian?
05:33:31.960 What's that?
05:33:32.680 Birth control debate?
05:33:33.600 Yeah, for a few minutes.
05:33:35.020 Non-hormonal as it can.
05:33:36.240 Yeah, so essentially birth control changes the type of man that a woman finds attractive.
05:33:40.000 So let's say you're on birth control when you're in high school.
05:33:42.120 You meet a guy, he's great, he's so nice, he's only 5'8", but whatever, you find that he's a nice guy, he's going to be a computer scientist or whatever.
05:33:48.840 You get married to him, then you're like 28 years old, and you're like, hey, let's have some kids.
05:33:52.600 so you get off birth control and then what happens is when you get off that birth control to have
05:33:56.720 kids or whatever your your natural state of what you find attractive will then shift to a more
05:34:01.580 masculine type of guy so then when you have like two kids already you're like crap i haven't found
05:34:05.800 my husband attractive in like five years but geez tyrone from high school being very you know high
05:34:10.520 testosterone or whatever he's very attractive i'm gonna go cheat on my husband i'm gonna get a
05:34:13.860 divorce with my husband he's a wimp i think it's a crazy reach to say that yeah that was like
05:34:18.440 birth control is going to happen with birth control wait so so the yeah yeah the the phenomenon
05:34:24.840 that that riley's talking about and that she's agreeing with is that when women are taking
05:34:29.800 hormonal uh birth control they have done studies on this and i think i i'm not sure the exact
05:34:35.220 methodology but they'll like show uh women picture uh faces uh pictures of faces of men
05:34:42.180 and they'll use like men who have more feminine characteristics versus men who have
05:34:45.960 more masculine characteristics and when women are on birth control they actually find men who have
05:34:51.180 more like feminine soft features uh more attractive when they're on hormonal birth
05:34:56.180 so imagine what happens attraction would completely like plummet to the ground and do a 180
05:35:01.000 i don't know but i don't think the claim is it's like okay they know like it's to degrees
05:35:07.260 yes i think birth control should be banned also birth control causes an abortion at a very early
05:35:15.080 staged at around five days. So essentially, you can still conceive when you're on birth control.
05:35:19.180 The main function of birth control is to prevent ovulation. The secondary function of birth control
05:35:24.280 is that if you do conceive, it'll thin the lining of your uterine wall so much that the conceived
05:35:29.160 egg cannot implant on the uterine wall. So for that reason, birth control should be banned because
05:35:35.080 it is murder, because abortion is murder. It's quite common sense, actually. And then the other
05:35:38.860 reason is because it makes women want to divorce their husbands. If you actually look at the birth
05:35:42.560 control usage rates and divorce rates, they actually perfectly coincide with a three-year
05:35:47.400 delay. It is perfectly coincided. If you look at divorce rates in America from 1960 to modern day
05:35:54.160 to birth control rates from 1960 to modern day, perfectly coincides with it. And so yeah, birth
05:35:59.720 control changes the type of man that you find attractive. So when you get on it or off of it
05:36:03.360 while you're with a guy or married to him, there's a really likely chance that you will not find him
05:36:08.360 attractive anymore and that's the main reason why the majority of divorces are initiated by
05:36:12.860 women nowadays i have an argument against birth control from a different position me too can i
05:36:17.600 voice it yeah so um birth control when it was uh popularized it actually people thought well this
05:36:25.260 will decrease the need for abortion this will eliminate people prevent pregnancies but the
05:36:30.500 reality is once the birth control pill was introduced uh people started having way more
05:36:35.940 casual sex, so much so
05:36:38.040 that abortion rates actually
05:36:40.140 rose exponentially
05:36:41.680 because people were having so much more
05:36:43.960 casual sex. Birth control is abortion
05:36:45.900 anyways.
05:36:46.660 Even if you're not defining it that way, I'm just making...
05:36:49.700 $200.
05:36:50.900 Why is Cherten such a yepper?
05:36:53.620 I can tell she caused most of her problems.
05:36:56.780 Taimu Charlie Kirk
05:36:57.980 over here somehow making viewers
05:36:59.780 less space. W. Hannah,
05:37:01.880 as always, we got you some steak
05:37:03.700 plaza finish up quick.
05:37:05.260 who's number 10 wait what uh that's you i didn't understand what he said he said that
05:37:11.620 well yeah he said your insult your insult was worse though not gonna lie well can i come at
05:37:18.520 the birth control argument from another perspective you know what i'm gonna actually
05:37:22.200 let riley just have his word on that and i gotta move it on for the sake of time uh down draft
05:37:28.100 around the table who would be okay with a five foot eight 80k a year good father and role model
05:37:32.880 but you never have to work and can do whatever you want as long as you submit to him would you
05:37:37.820 be willing to do that knowing that if you don't then he will see other women that are willing to
05:37:42.800 submit i mean that sounds chill uh no what does he mean by submit like if he's a christian yeah
05:37:49.260 is it just like sexually or like um what do you mean by that i don't know what that means
05:37:52.360 i mean overall i would just say yes that sounds good to me it's it's basically just like um he's
05:38:00.120 he's a good father uh he's five foot eight he makes 80k a year uh he's only cheating if you're
05:38:05.640 not submitting but that's the thing why would he should be cheating in the first place exactly
05:38:09.180 that's not a good father if he's not happy with you then he should just end the relationship
05:38:12.360 actually answer well why yeah why does cheating need to come and could technically be a good
05:38:17.220 father no yeah and be a cheat yeah how is that a good father cheating affects the child's life
05:38:22.160 if she doesn't find out but aren't you supposed to like set an example that's not a good father
05:38:29.420 cheating is bad cheating is bad don't do it but technically shauna and i 100 on this no you can't
05:38:37.100 be a good father and cheat at all you betray the home a good father cannot cheat no a good father
05:38:41.720 cannot cheat correct so your father is not good why would you that's not for doing that yeah that's
05:38:46.080 why i lost i think you could be a good parent and a bad spouse i think i think well if you're a good
05:38:52.040 parent you wouldn't hurt the other spouse like if you're a good mother you would take care of the
05:38:56.080 father and if you're a good father you take care of the good i also i also believe people can change
05:39:00.720 my ex my ex-husband was a dick but he was young he was stupid now he's a good back to this so i
05:39:06.500 want to clarify like now my father is a good father and i don't want to like talk that's good
05:39:10.220 that's good so anyways uh we were you were saying the narrative against women you that's what you
05:39:17.280 disagree with they push yeah i just feel like in general i have like i said i have been watching
05:39:21.820 the podcast for a while i just feel like you know even though i lean more you know i'm anti-feminist
05:39:27.420 type of thing uh but yeah i feel like sometimes they push the narrative too much against women
05:39:32.940 somehow you know okay how so you know i don't have this exact how can i say the exact thing
05:39:39.580 to say at this point but i feel like you know watching the show through some months probably
05:39:45.660 years now. I have seen that. I mean, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed
05:39:52.800 without evidence. I'm not, I mean, if you're not willing or able to articulate what precisely the
05:39:59.760 narrative against women is that I am pushing, it's hard for me to engage with that. I'm not
05:40:04.920 going to make your arguments for you. That's fine. So is there anything that you can point to that
05:40:10.400 would be indicative of the narrative against women that is pushed by me?
05:40:16.320 Not really at this point.
05:40:17.660 I mean, there's so many ideas floating that, yeah.
05:40:20.320 We've been talking for a while.
05:40:21.820 No, I don't have anything.
05:40:23.740 Really?
05:40:24.600 Yeah.
05:40:25.440 So, there's nothing?
05:40:30.180 No, I mean, like I said, it just feels on my perspective that, you know,
05:40:35.260 watching the show through several years, I feel now, yeah, that's how it feels,
05:40:39.460 that there's a lot of negativity towards women in general, you know,
05:40:43.440 watching several episodes.
05:40:45.160 okay what is the negative negativity towards women i i just feel like you know like i have
05:40:50.660 seen a couple of things where you say that women should be submissive how would that be negative
05:40:55.220 i feel like i mean i'm not submissive at all and i don't think i'm not trying to date you though
05:41:02.140 no but i i don't think women should be submissive i feel like in our relationship we should be an
05:41:08.080 equal well define in your terms define submissive i guess well submissive for me will be you know
05:41:13.680 kind of like if the man tells her
05:41:16.560 not to work and she
05:41:18.420 agrees to that. I feel like
05:41:19.940 that can be said a little bit as
05:41:22.320 submissive and
05:41:24.220 I personally like
05:41:25.920 the question before that you said that if I
05:41:28.180 the question before that you
05:41:32.500 asked me if I will be willing to
05:41:34.200 you know leave my work and data
05:41:36.060 I mean or marry a billionaire I wouldn't do it
05:41:38.460 because I'm not submissive. I mean I think
05:41:40.500 I'm an independent woman. I think I can do everything
05:41:42.500 for myself.
05:41:43.680 So, yeah, I think, yeah, I'm against being submissive towards a man.
05:41:47.820 Okay, so in your questionnaire here, you circled the following, that you agree with the following statements.
05:41:53.640 Men should provide protect, men should be chivalrous, husband should be willing to die protecting you.
05:41:58.820 Yes.
05:41:59.320 Take the bullet.
05:42:00.460 Absolutely.
05:42:01.780 Okay, so don't you think, so is it, if it's wrong for me to say women should be submissive,
05:42:10.700 why is it not wrong for you to say that men should provide men should protect men should be
05:42:15.440 chivalrous and then the husband should be willing to die protecting you it seems like it's a bigger
05:42:20.760 call to sacrifice a bigger call to action to say men should be willing to die than to simply say
05:42:27.040 women should follow their husband's lead boyfriend's lead be submissive that seems like a
05:42:31.960 bigger well i still kind of follow my husband's lead but i wouldn't be submissive i just think
05:42:36.620 it's a you know that's submissive is yeah i think it's the word that you guys yeah i think you are
05:42:42.640 hung up on the word submissive and they think it's like suzy homemaker 1950s or like you're
05:42:47.100 beneath him yeah it's not like it just means like letting the man lead and we want a manly man to
05:42:53.600 take lead that's basically it also just means deferring to his judgment his authority his
05:42:59.260 judgment his leadership his authority i disagree because in my marriage at least we take 50 50 i
05:43:06.440 I mean, I feel like a marriage should be 50-50.
05:43:08.720 This is all preference.
05:43:09.800 You say that?
05:43:10.580 Women say that they want 50-50, but let me ask, when you went on a first date with him, who paid for the date?
05:43:16.500 He did.
05:43:17.560 How about the subsequent dates, who paid for them?
05:43:22.560 He did.
05:43:23.480 Okay, and then in terms of the contribution to the current household, is it 50-50?
05:43:28.440 It is 50-50.
05:43:29.360 It's 50-50 now.
05:43:30.420 It's exactly 50-50.
05:43:31.960 I mean, basically, you know, he has a job, you know, outside of the restaurants that we own.
05:43:37.680 And, yeah, but, I mean, he pays for things.
05:43:40.260 I pay for other things.
05:43:41.120 He pays for stuff in the restaurant.
05:43:42.100 So you're subsidizing your restaurant.
05:43:43.560 It's a cultural difference, though, because, like, with an Hispanic culture, the element of wanting that passionate love, which involves a lot of, like, toxic elements, is what's prioritized.
05:43:52.260 Hold on.
05:43:52.600 So, okay, back to this.
05:43:54.080 So are you saying that, like, who financed your business?
05:43:58.480 Was it strictly you?
05:43:59.920 No, it was between me and him.
05:44:02.120 Mutually.
05:44:03.040 Okay, so but prior to starting your business, you both worked?
05:44:07.140 Yes, I used to work for him.
05:44:09.840 That's how we met.
05:44:10.820 So I'm assuming if he worked or you worked for him, I'm assuming he was earning more than you.
05:44:17.940 Yes, at that point, yes.
05:44:20.320 And now you co-own a business together.
05:44:22.940 Yes.
05:44:24.120 Which he funded, given that he was the breadwinner.
05:44:28.280 No, no, because I also worked for him.
05:44:31.440 Yes.
05:44:31.640 I also had saved.
05:44:32.400 Usually the boss typically makes more money than the employee.
05:44:36.980 Typically.
05:44:37.660 No, typically.
05:44:38.440 But I also had money saved.
05:44:40.200 I opened, I, we opened the restaurants when it was COVID.
05:44:43.120 Can I ask you a question?
05:44:44.140 Uh-huh.
05:44:45.020 Have you ever had to get money from his career and inject it into the business's bank account?
05:44:49.400 Did you not making enough sales?
05:44:50.900 Has that ever happened?
05:44:51.860 That has happened.
05:44:52.980 Okay.
05:44:53.080 That has.
05:44:53.480 Okay.
05:44:53.920 I thought, I thought it was a little fishy when a woman mentioned that she owns a business.
05:44:57.240 I thought it was a little fishy.
05:44:58.280 Has he ever had to, like, get money from you in some way for something else as well?
05:45:01.540 Yes, also.
05:45:02.200 Doesn't that even out?
05:45:03.180 But, again, it evens out because, again, we're married.
05:45:05.960 Why didn't you pay for the date?
05:45:07.820 Why didn't you go 50-50 on the date?
05:45:09.220 I thought men and women are equal.
05:45:10.940 Well, because, again, I believed, you know, in first days and all that, men should pay.
05:45:15.440 Did he ask you out?
05:45:16.120 Yeah, but he didn't just.
05:45:17.120 He asked me out.
05:45:17.660 He asked you out.
05:45:18.040 That doesn't matter.
05:45:19.500 Why it doesn't matter?
05:45:20.640 Because women don't ask out men.
05:45:21.600 But if you asked him out, would you have paid?
05:45:22.720 Women don't ask out men, so it's fucking retarded.
05:45:25.320 I do.
05:45:25.640 Well, Mexican men are very traditional.
05:45:27.240 They don't pay.
05:45:27.960 It would be an insult to them.
05:45:29.280 Oh, my God.
05:45:29.620 Men would feel insulted if they didn't pay.
05:45:32.020 No, let me tell you.
05:45:32.760 My husband, he literally looks like Brian.
05:45:35.100 I don't know what the hell.
05:45:36.180 It's like I'm looking like physically he looks like Brian.
05:45:38.500 What the fuck?
05:45:39.200 He does.
05:45:39.960 Oh, dude, he does.
05:45:40.720 Hey, Brian.
05:45:41.260 He's white as hell.
05:45:42.800 That's funny.
05:45:43.220 That's great.
05:45:43.940 But, yeah, it's like you said.
05:45:46.400 He paid for the first date.
05:45:47.400 He paid for all the other dates.
05:45:48.820 If you genuinely believe in equality, you should.
05:45:51.020 i understand that men have the um have this uh you know perhaps expectation placed on them to
05:45:57.860 pay you should have insisted though you certainly could have insisted that uh you split the bill
05:46:04.020 and if that was an impossibility you should have paid for the next time but you didn't
05:46:08.120 he kept paying for how many um did he continue paying for dates throughout the course of the
05:46:13.720 relationship yes ah and did you ever you didn't even insist okay so it's it's only equality but
05:46:20.960 when it when it suits you so when it comes to uh receiving perks of uh traditional gender roles
05:46:27.460 then you'll happily okay oh i'm just a woman but uh when it comes to uh you know the roles in the
05:46:34.360 relationship you want to perhaps have a egalitarian no but even if i wanted to pay
05:46:40.280 that for the type of person that my husband is he's conservative as hell like you have he wouldn't
05:46:46.220 He doesn't even let me, like, it's not even artistic.
05:46:48.280 Then you have to dump him.
05:46:49.220 Then you have an egalitarian imperative to say, listen, fucker, I'm paying for the fucking date.
05:46:55.660 Otherwise, I'm breaking up with you.
05:46:57.300 That's your imperative as an egalitarian.
05:46:58.840 Would you say that on a first date?
05:47:00.300 That's so weird to say on a first date.
05:47:02.620 You said 50-50.
05:47:03.800 You're 50-50.
05:47:05.000 I feel like I would do a 50-50 if I'm not trying to date or to date actually this guy.
05:47:11.000 And if I'm actually being as a friend, yeah, I'd do that.
05:47:15.000 So, okay, if you go on the date and you know you don't like the guy, then you'll pay for the bill.
05:47:19.500 But in instances where you do want to pursue an egalitarian relationship, the guy should pay for the bill?
05:47:25.260 Do you have children by chance?
05:47:26.620 We do, too.
05:47:27.420 That's the thing.
05:47:27.860 I'm like, if you're working and having sex with him and paying for everything or whatever and you have kids, then it's more than 50-50 at that point.
05:47:35.180 You've given him children, you've given him money, and you're giving him sex and passion.
05:47:38.920 So it's like that's a whole different other definition of egalitarianism.
05:47:41.680 And I add within Mexican culture
05:47:43.600 Egalitarianism means something completely different
05:47:45.720 Than the American WASP definition of it
05:47:47.820 Yeah, it actually does
05:47:49.040 Hold on, we have a super chat
05:47:49.940 Shona, can you read this for us?
05:47:52.300 It's called testing the ideology stance
05:47:54.160 And willingness to conform to a man
05:47:55.800 Brian, you test this with the bow
05:47:57.500 Most of them failed
05:47:58.420 First thing they said was cheating
05:47:59.680 I never said cheating, lol
05:48:01.060 Shows the victim mentality they have
05:48:02.780 When they're not a victim
05:48:04.160 Yeah, here, I can give an example of
05:48:05.980 When I think a woman should be submissive
05:48:08.200 So, and this is like not just, uh, imaginary hypothetical.
05:48:14.440 This is something I've actually encountered multiple times with women.
05:48:18.080 You can hide the, uh, downdraft.
05:48:19.760 Thank you for the super chat.
05:48:20.640 Appreciate it.
05:48:21.920 So, uh, one thing I prefer, um, I value my sleep substantially.
05:48:26.940 So I actually prefer sleeping in separate bedrooms.
05:48:31.440 Uh, so.
05:48:32.520 Ooh, interesting.
05:48:34.220 That's really unconventional.
05:48:35.500 Yeah.
05:48:35.840 That's weird though.
05:48:37.200 Why?
05:48:37.380 Right, right.
05:48:37.920 It's lucky a deal breaker for a lot of women out there.
05:48:40.080 Yeah.
05:48:40.400 So be it.
05:48:40.940 Well, they're going to have to defer to me on this.
05:48:42.980 So I believe that my sleep quality and getting a good night's sleep supersedes the woman's desire for like plus 3% intimacy.
05:48:52.800 Plus 3%?
05:48:53.980 Yeah, I don't care.
05:48:57.740 My being able to get a good night's sleep supersedes the woman wanting plus 3% intimacy.
05:49:04.480 What about like a king size bed that's still not big enough?
05:49:06.800 How much space do you need?
05:49:07.440 It doesn't matter.
05:49:07.920 I mean, if a guy's snoring really loud, though, I kind of agree.
05:49:10.720 I love my fiancé, but he snores like a foghorn.
05:49:13.320 Let me get to the point.
05:49:14.800 So, and just to be clear, look, it's not an impossibility.
05:49:18.860 Sometimes I'll allow it.
05:49:20.920 But I do think that I've had instances where, you know, the girl comes over.
05:49:30.260 Maybe we sleep together.
05:49:31.500 Maybe we don't.
05:49:32.460 And I mean sex.
05:49:33.520 I'm not meaning sleeping together.
05:49:35.680 And it's not like I'm kicking her out right after.
05:49:37.920 but maybe we'll watch a movie afterwards and then it's like oh it's getting late time to sleep
05:49:42.420 um i'm gonna get you set up in the guest room uh i've had a couple some women are totally cool
05:49:47.220 with it they're like yep no problem got it other women give me so much flack they i've had women
05:49:53.740 crash out on me over the guest room huh about the guest room yeah i'm like wanting to set them up in
05:50:00.380 the other bedroom like i've literally i've had women crash out i've had women throw fits i've
05:50:06.460 had women like on the verge of tears over this i kind of i kind of get that yeah
05:50:12.380 no that's fucking retarded for me but i will feel like that hell yeah but okay so if i tell you if
05:50:21.980 i tell you hey by the way it's not i'm not like well i think if it was using you for sex i'd be
05:50:27.060 like just kicking you out of the house but um but if i tell the woman it's like it's not that i
05:50:31.840 dislike you, but I, I do not get good sleep sharing a bed. And like, I'm going to be, I'm
05:50:38.660 going to be, uh, let's say she's visiting me for a day, uh, two, three days. I'm going to be in a
05:50:43.200 bad mood if I don't get good sleep. Um, I, I need to get good sleep for my work. So in that instance,
05:50:50.100 look, it's okay for the woman to have a preference. The woman can obviously, and I'd say most women
05:50:56.280 probably prefer to sleep in the same bed as a man um however women need to temper and women need to
05:51:04.080 regulate their emotional response to that situation you can want a thing but then you shouldn't be
05:51:10.760 challenging me on it you shouldn't be crashing out are you open about it up front is this like
05:51:15.700 something you're up front about in the beginning like they know coming into it even if he wasn't
05:51:20.160 And he was up front about it when they came over.
05:51:22.360 Well, that's what I meant.
05:51:24.120 Yeah, yeah.
05:51:24.600 I don't think it is something I've let people know ahead of time.
05:51:29.680 But I don't think there's anything actually objectionable.
05:51:32.600 I don't think I need to disclose to somebody beforehand, like, hey, by the way, this can
05:51:37.680 be a revelation.
05:51:38.920 It's a boundary.
05:51:39.580 Yes, exactly.
05:51:40.580 This can be a revelation in that moment without any prior sort of, I don't know what the right
05:51:48.860 term is.
05:51:49.220 prior disclosure yes i would say that so yeah the the woman should defer to me on this and look she
05:51:56.400 can have a preference she could want to sleep with me in the bed but if i say it that's the
05:52:02.500 end of the conversation but that's not submission though that's that's just you basically respecting
05:52:06.840 your own boundary when it comes to submission i would define that as whether it's spending
05:52:10.660 safety whether it comes to ultimate big home decisions well you defer to the man it's a
05:52:15.320 smaller thing it is i said but well for someone it's a big thing a lot but it would well that's
05:52:19.820 why i think you should be up front about it would be a lack of submission for a woman to argue with
05:52:25.300 me about it and question it and cause friction and conflict because of this that would be a lack
05:52:32.160 like the submissive thing would be to be like oh but i really like she could be like i really want
05:52:38.600 to and then i'm like i'm sorry but i can't and she's like okay like that's okay if she does a
05:52:43.580 little cutesy disappointed whatever you're disappointed i fucking get it but don't crash
05:52:47.880 like i i'm not even exaggerating i've had women like i've had women like in the bed like oh my
05:52:56.860 god oh like throwing a fucking fit over it and that's crazy i 100 agree but i still the reason
05:53:03.720 i disagree on it being submission is because that's them disrespecting your emotional boundary
05:53:08.300 that's not a matter of you controlling their life that's a matter of you having basically
05:53:13.040 control over your own personal boundaries. But when it comes to submission, I would say the
05:53:17.220 reason why, in my opinion, honestly fact, that you should defer to a man that you trust is because
05:53:22.520 men are a bit more sensible when it comes to emotional impulses. Women don't really have a
05:53:26.620 strong grasp as to the dangers that are around them, nor the spending habits that might be
05:53:30.600 enticing to them. So I think having a man that you can defer to, and that's me having more money than
05:53:34.940 the person I'm with, he's the one who ultimately decides when I can spend money because I know I
05:53:39.360 have a thrifting habit so he's the one that keeps me safe he's the one that says I don't know about
05:53:43.740 this I think you might get in trouble even though I might want to do something so I think that's
05:53:47.860 ultimately submission though he makes less money yeah 100% because I trust his mind that's why
05:53:52.280 that's why I love him is because I trust who he is he is my masculine counterpart where whenever
05:53:57.880 I have faults as a woman he as a man can guide me and whenever he feels like he's not being
05:54:02.380 like you know emotionally nurtured by this world I then as a woman can compliment him with my
05:54:07.540 feminine traits and say you're the best person in the world yeah but so back to your thing though
05:54:12.400 um the narrative against women and then there's some other framing that you you used you objected
05:54:19.880 to the women should be submissive thing um yeah i mean i i don't actually see the problem with that
05:54:27.260 i mean different views again like i said i just feel like culturally speaking there's a lot of
05:54:35.500 differences against women in mexico usually they're more submissive than american women i
05:54:43.200 don't know what you're talking about they're psychotic they'll stab you over a dream like it
05:54:46.980 depends on your submission no no it's hold on it's latin american women this like toxic spicy
05:54:54.180 latina thing or whatever that's fucking retarded but um latin american women are typically more
05:55:00.180 traditional yeah they're more conservative they're more submissive than their american
05:55:04.880 counterparts who are hyper-feminist. They are, but actually, you know, I feel like my, you know,
05:55:11.780 the age that I share with a lot of, I'm Mexican or whatever, you know, no, like, we are like this,
05:55:18.920 you know, we're kind of like, we're not submissive, we are, you know, very independent,
05:55:24.360 and basically, yeah, and we also like a man that is masculine, you know, I know it's weird.
05:55:30.880 why should men be masculine if you don't want to submit i don't it's the passion la toxic so what
05:55:38.520 do men get so okay for you a man should provide protect he should be chivalrous he should be
05:55:43.820 willing to die protecting you uh if we're allowed to say that men should do all these things what
05:55:49.840 can men say women should what should women do i mean if we're talking about that i gave him
05:55:57.100 his children he also gave you children yeah he contributed the genetic material to yeah he
05:56:03.360 didn't give birth to them or raise them i was the one doing all the hard work for them okay so
05:56:08.620 gender roles only exist within the confines of pregnancy it's not no it isn't that's it's not
05:56:14.040 gender roles it's biology a man you're a woman's function is to give a man so just to be clear
05:56:19.260 your position is as long as a woman gives a man children she can be a raging quarrelsome bitch
05:56:24.660 is that your position? I'm asking
05:56:26.520 what should women do? Beyond
05:56:28.640 just procreation,
05:56:30.740 what should women do?
05:56:32.180 But if we're boiling it down to he has to provide
05:56:34.380 financially, she even has to give children.
05:56:37.040 So yes, I think giving
05:56:38.400 children is a component of the
05:56:40.520 value proposition for
05:56:42.420 women, but it has to go, like,
05:56:44.340 in terms of the woman's behavior,
05:56:46.460 I'm looking at, like, what
05:56:48.260 should women do?
05:56:51.760 Do on what
05:56:52.520 instance, though? Why are you
05:56:54.400 also referring to, again, I do a lot of things for my husband. I do a lot of, a lot of things
05:56:59.480 that, you know, I feel like I say it's a 50, 50. I, the way he provides for me, the way
05:57:04.680 he protects me, the way he's willing to take a bullet for me. I also am willing to do a
05:57:09.260 lot of things for him. I take care of him. I provide for him. You know, I, he has a hard
05:57:14.860 working woman, you know, he subsidizes your business. No, because again, we, it's, it's
05:57:20.140 hours he's both of us okay so he work as many hours as you do on the business no he does not
05:57:25.560 okay so you're primarily running it i run the business yeah he has his own he has his own
05:57:30.760 wait how old are your kids uh i have a 14 year old and a nine year old um okay and uh
05:57:39.640 when you're running your business is he taking care of the kids who's taking care of the kids
05:57:44.680 no my parents your your parents well that's better than daycare but um
05:57:51.020 i i think you'd probably be better uh if you were taking care of the kids as the mom i mean i
05:57:59.920 usually do again since i'm a business owner i so let's just say i wake up i get my girls ready
05:58:05.420 every morning i do like the general gender roles i get my get my girls ready i give my husband his
05:58:12.420 lunch for the day i make lunch for my girls as well you know and then i drop them up to school
05:58:18.280 i go to work you know from let's just have one that my girls are in school and then i go pick
05:58:23.920 them up every day i make dinner for everybody so yeah i mean i feel like i fulfill a lot of
05:58:29.760 those things for the for the sake of time i have to move it on um but uh okay going to you you said
05:58:36.600 the rating the guests can be harsh yeah whenever you base like rate us after we rate ourselves
05:58:45.640 do you think i was harsh today a little a little bit okay i think you should do it at the beginning
05:58:52.160 and not because we have a human tendency to judge people even if you're not trying to you're just
05:58:57.140 trying to judge it off looks you have a human tendency to judge off of someone's personality
05:59:00.740 you should do it from the beginning not the no no brian's a professional i yeah okay i even if
05:59:09.040 like if i'm not gonna like okay she's conservative and she agrees with me on everything i'm still
05:59:14.240 gonna give her an unbiased as unbiased as i can uh rating i'm not gonna like give her a more
05:59:19.960 positive rating because she agrees with me on shit like i'll just look at their looks and i'm not
05:59:26.220 gonna like even if somebody rubs me the wrong like if a really attractive woman is on the show
05:59:31.260 and she's just annoying as fuck i'm not gonna rate like rate her looks lower just because but um
05:59:36.140 uh i guess moving off of that uh lise lisi lisi doing the laundry for you is crazy that's a
05:59:44.100 disagreement that you have uh go into that i i do want to clarify is that on the first date that
05:59:50.780 you've said that the first date they should do laundry or just like throughout yeah so the my
05:59:55.220 framing is the first time she's over which could be the first time hanging out but uh yeah she
06:00:03.300 should do laundry for me right away and cook and clean yeah right away i still i still think that's
06:00:11.520 crazy why why well i don't know that's wife behavior and what are you doing right away
06:00:19.800 in return for the woman paying for the dinner i'm dead serious so you have a girl over a 30
06:00:25.880 dinner i thought she's cooking the dinner yeah so well yeah hold on there's a couple questions
06:00:30.880 that have been thrown out there so what what was i don't know i'll go one by one i guess
06:00:35.420 i don't remember what i asked but to be fair with my disagreement i don't expect people to pay on
06:00:45.500 the first date if i did expect that then i could see maybe like you gotta clean for them or do
06:00:54.220 something maybe not well i don't even i it's for me it's not a transactional thing it's like
06:00:59.780 i did this so you do this that's it's it should she should want to she should just want to do it
06:01:08.500 i don't want to have to like remind her i don't want to have to like bully her into doing it
06:01:13.560 Could it be washing dishes?
06:01:15.200 The first date?
06:01:15.760 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
06:01:16.760 Has anyone actually done it for you?
06:01:19.120 That's why it was here.
06:01:20.420 Yes, all the fucking time.
06:01:21.700 Do you know why?
06:01:23.660 Hold on.
06:01:24.100 I'll give women some game here.
06:01:25.860 Now, you guys might really hate this that I wanted as a man.
06:01:29.380 But if you actually wanted to like massively boost your success rate, I know some of you are in relationships.
06:01:38.200 But let's say you're single, right?
06:01:40.060 I'm genuinely telling you, uh, offer to do it. Like the first time you go to a guy's house,
06:01:46.060 offer to do something for him. Maybe it's not the laundry. Maybe you could be like,
06:01:52.180 can I tidy up for you a little bit? Can I, how can I be of service, sir, slash master?
06:01:58.280 How can I be of service to you? And I'm telling you, you might think it's cringe. And look,
06:02:03.520 most guys might be taking a little bit of back because it's like, well, I've never had a guy
06:02:07.160 do this, but they'll appreciate it. And in their side agent at that point in the guy's mind, yeah,
06:02:11.960 it could be in the guy's mind. Uh, he's thinking like, Whoa, who is this girl? Like that's,
06:02:17.780 that's dope. Like that's cool. Now I'm not saying all, some guys might think it's weird,
06:02:21.920 whatever, but I'm, I'm telling you, try it out. And, uh, that's going to be a, a lot of guys are
06:02:27.520 going to look at that and like you way more. And look, if you're dealing, especially if you're
06:02:33.120 dealing with like uh if this is a guy you really really like and you want to land him you want to
06:02:39.240 you want to have him you want to keep him pussy ain't enough you gotta offer more you gotta offer
06:02:46.240 more i think the first date is crazy but maybe like the first week like my fiance and i like
06:02:51.420 we we were uh did it basic we just went out to pizza and then after a week of constantly hanging
06:02:56.720 out i was like hey your car is dirty do you want me to clean this out for you sure he appreciated
06:03:00.680 it the back seat was literally covered in just garbage and i just removed everything and he was
06:03:05.240 really thankful for i do think that the first date is uh it's actually not a good thing brian
06:03:09.260 because if a girl is in your house or apartment on the first date that's not a good sign aren't
06:03:13.820 you worried about women chasing you for clout too like by doing all that like oh it's brian atlas
06:03:18.240 oh they're gonna do my laundry for clout i mean the thing is is like i've had i've dated uh i've
06:03:25.000 started the podcast back in 2022 uh i've dated women throughout that time i've had relationships
06:03:30.540 and whatnot and uh women who date me get zero clout like if you're dating me you're not you're
06:03:38.200 not getting any publicity you're not on the show plus i'm not dating like the type of women i'm
06:03:43.940 attracted to and at least the ones that come to me typically they're not like on social media
06:03:48.100 they're not content creators they're not influencers so um real i mean as as far as i know
06:03:54.680 like they haven't received any clout because i i mean i would never a girl i'm dating i could be
06:04:01.700 in a relationship for a girl with a year she's never on the radar to anybody she's i'm keeping
06:04:09.520 her under wraps bro if i have my girlfriend on the show and like people can find her she's going
06:04:16.020 to be probably harassed to probably more than me how big's his dick does it what does he do
06:04:25.440 is he weird blah blah like no if i'm dating a woman she's not she's not ever getting you
06:04:31.760 wouldn't even know plus i would honestly say when people think i'm a fucking virgin like i've never
06:04:35.500 had a girlfriend or whatever they wouldn't know like i shit i could have been dating somebody for
06:04:39.820 but like for one year two years when it comes nobody would know when it comes to brian standard
06:04:43.980 of like a girl doing his laundry that's pretty much the equivalent of a girl saying i want a
06:04:47.440 man who's a gentleman basically yeah but i'm also thinking like okay so if you say like hypothetically
06:04:52.060 you go over to this guy's house and you do this thing for him isn't he going to expect that more
06:04:56.160 and if he expects him more is it going to be a way to like take advantage of you because you did
06:05:00.340 this thing for him are you saying it or as a way like you you've been you've been talking to this
06:05:06.240 girl for a while and then this is her first night over and she does this but that's the thing if she
06:05:10.200 has that skill set then she's independent in her own resources and if he's not taking advantage
06:05:14.320 then she can leave and he'll be hurt by that because he lost someone that was valuable to him
06:05:18.180 that's cool too i think my answer comes from if you live with somebody then yeah i think that he
06:05:26.060 can expect that from you to like i don't know clean up after him or something and i've my
06:05:31.580 current relationship i lived with him before i we got together so like i started out doing that
06:05:36.940 well i can see it doesn't get complicated well i think it's fair that i also provide a bit more
06:05:43.680 context here uh this pretty much will not work for normal men like it will not work like you
06:05:55.680 can't go on a dating app and it's not a one night stand thing well hold on no you can't go on a
06:06:00.140 dating app or meet a girl at a bar now if she voluntarily does it because like that's just
06:06:05.580 innate to her, you're not going to have the leverage for most in most situations to either
06:06:11.460 have the expectation or ever like have this be a thing where the first time the girl comes over to
06:06:16.760 your house. I mean, you know, you could try, you come, you, you might be able to do like a team
06:06:21.660 laundry thing where it's like, okay, let's fold it together. But I need to provide some important
06:06:28.440 context ever since i started this podcast uh now i've shot my shot here and there and so i've i've
06:06:36.120 shot my shot and i have less leverage in that situation uh the majority of the women i've dated
06:06:41.780 since 2022 have all contacted me so that's a very different dynamic you guys should be aware of and
06:06:48.300 i i suppose i should uh so clout well because they know you from your podcast why would they
06:06:54.120 contact you otherwise well yeah so it's like when when they're i don't want to frame it as them
06:07:00.960 being the pursuer but if like they're reaching out to you you have more leverage yeah and you
06:07:07.320 can set like okay here's my like hundred question girlfriend application uh if i can fill it out
06:07:14.300 you know and so you have more leverage and uh so in that instance then i can kind of dictate
06:07:21.380 terms a bit better if they're reaching out to me and the majority of the women i've dated
06:07:25.240 uh in the past like four years or whatever they've all reached out to me all right i rescind my
06:07:31.320 disagreement based off of you can hold that standard because because you are who you are
06:07:37.680 but i would also say something well i'm not just to be clear i don't think i'm like some
06:07:40.720 massive a-list celebrity big shot it's just but they're reaching out to me when you have more
06:07:45.700 options you can be a little bit more i would also say if i've been if i've been psychoanalyzing
06:07:51.540 brian just a little bit like all of his like tendencies all of his requests are things where
06:07:56.980 it's just like i want a woman to respect me respect me respect me he confuses submission
06:08:00.380 with respect like he's asking for bare minimum this entire time it is bare minimum so i'm like
06:08:04.640 wait a minute like you're not actually asking for submission you're just asking for a woman to
06:08:08.800 recognize your needs and oftentimes if they're the ones reaching out to you it's because they're
06:08:12.300 like putting you in this character mindset that you're not a real human being but some idea or
06:08:17.480 abstraction to them that'll satisfy their own needs basically okay i i want to also just to
06:08:24.020 be clear i do want a submissive woman just to be clear but do you can you explain how that would
06:08:30.420 be without you just saying i want my needs respected but where you're actually being the
06:08:34.840 leader like how are you guiding her in life because everything you've listed is like oh yeah
06:08:38.300 sure sure well i mean uh how about this right so i would want a woman who's not posting provocative
06:08:44.500 photos on instagram i'd want a woman who's not wearing provocative clothing that's not
06:08:49.160 submission that's just bare respect to some let's talk about clothing hold on i i mean i do think it
06:08:56.400 does fall under the purview of submission so if she otherwise wants to go out to a nightclub
06:09:01.060 with her single female friends and i tell her uh no and then she's like okay that would be
06:09:07.520 submission that would be respect respect not submission okay so why don't you then if we if
06:09:12.860 i'm having a misunderstanding of what submission is i think it's just that yeah submission is where
06:09:16.800 you're guiding give me an example of a scenario in which a woman would be submissive i gave an
06:09:22.080 example with my own relationship where i defer to my like my significant other with finances
06:09:27.600 even though i'm the one who makes them more money i defer to him on finances and safety if i want to
06:09:32.000 do something and he says this is not for my good benefit i'll listen to him why why could she not
06:09:36.480 defer to me she would also be deferring to me in terms of clothing if you're exactly but that's
06:09:40.620 what i'm saying if she's going out dressing provocatively that's just a disrespect to
06:09:43.920 your relationship that's not her submitting that's her just disrespecting you same thing
06:09:47.400 with her going out to the club that's not submission that's her wanting to just it's
06:09:50.600 basically no no but it's like hold on if she if she acts asks me this also i think you have to
06:09:57.520 take into consideration there's a degree of societal conditioning and brainwashing yes
06:10:03.240 uh and so i think i think sometimes you got to break somebody out of that and be like no this
06:10:09.800 isn't like perhaps they were on the wrong path this is not how you should be maneuvering uh
06:10:15.680 through the world and uh once again though i can understand how you can interpret that as submission
06:10:21.380 but once again it's like me saying i want to tell a guy like oh don't do don't go out to the clubs
06:10:26.100 don't hang out with your boys when you're going to like the strip clubs or whatever that's not me
06:10:29.800 like obeying him that's me basically laying out a bare minimum common sense relationship
06:10:35.040 sure i and i agree that that should be to some degree uh bare minimum submission is like i am
06:10:40.660 going to put my life in your hands because you're the one who's going to give me who's going to take
06:10:44.700 the bullet for me and i don't want to do something that would increase those chances his example
06:10:49.120 right there where he's like hey i don't want you to go out with your single female friends
06:10:51.780 and her saying okay yes i won't do that that's her submitting to his request she is submissive
06:10:57.680 in that situation. If she's going to the club
06:10:59.500 or going with her single friends to go flirt
06:11:01.560 or invalidate his relationship, that's
06:11:03.580 different. If they're single friends, they're typically
06:11:05.460 going to be the ones to poke holes in the relationship
06:11:07.480 and that's disrespectful to the relationship.
06:11:09.320 I agree with you that
06:11:10.420 she shouldn't want to do that
06:11:13.540 to begin with.
06:11:14.940 It should just be automatic.
06:11:17.960 Although I do think in the current
06:11:19.460 cultural and social zeitgeist
06:11:21.560 some women
06:11:22.720 perhaps have bad influence either
06:11:25.420 from society, culture, or their friends.
06:11:27.680 and they'll get caught up in partying.
06:11:29.480 Now, I would say that it would be perhaps my job
06:11:31.940 in an effort to protect her and the relationship
06:11:34.360 to guide her to be like,
06:11:36.760 no, you're not going to go out and party
06:11:38.800 and do all this hoe shit.
06:11:41.040 And she can correct that behavior.
06:11:43.780 And she would defer to me, and that would be submissive.
06:11:46.040 In the mirror situation, would it be okay
06:11:47.740 if my husband wanted to go watch porn
06:11:50.280 and do simulated acts that are very degenerate and gratuitous?
06:11:53.440 If my role as a submissive wife,
06:11:55.460 would I have to go along with that?
06:11:57.440 Or is it disrespectful to the relationship?
06:11:59.360 Likewise, if you're leading her, there's certain boundaries that are just common sense.
06:12:04.020 You shouldn't have to guide a woman away from that.
06:12:05.200 So, submissive to God.
06:12:06.160 Yeah, from a Christian framework, you have it.
06:12:09.220 Not even a Christian one, a materialist one, where if she's going out, that's a threat to your material relationship.
06:12:13.960 Where it's like, this shouldn't be a concern I have in the relationship.
06:12:16.520 If I'm guiding you, it's in matters of finances or in matters of safety or in matters of whatever.
06:12:20.900 But if you're going out, putting our relationship in jeopardy, but it's not her physical safety that necessarily men are concerned about if she goes to a club or goes with single friends.
06:12:28.720 If she goes to a club, I am concerned with her physical safety.
06:12:31.260 That's true.
06:12:31.960 But the bigger issue I think a lot of men have is infidelity when she goes to the club or when she's with her single friends.
06:12:37.240 When it comes to safety, that's just going out in general.
06:12:39.880 It's true.
06:12:41.360 There's a greater risk in like a nightclub scenario or party scenario where there's alcohol involved.
06:12:48.380 Anything outside at night is dangerous.
06:12:50.900 i think sa should be the risk not infidelity because if she's the type of woman to cheat then
06:12:54.680 i feel like you don't want to be with her no if you don't trust her but then she's not loyal
06:12:59.660 she's got a bad character you don't have to go to a club there is like there is opportunity
06:13:03.280 it's disrespectful opportunity yeah but like sa no i i said like the risk and the reason no what's
06:13:09.940 sa oh sexual assault oh it's like rape serious yeah well it could be even less than that but
06:13:15.240 that's what i'm saying is that if you're going out to a club where it's clearly dating oriented
06:13:19.260 there's alcohol flowing your friends are single they're going to encourage you to make mistakes
06:13:23.480 because typically single women are going to head and peck your relationship that's disrespectful
06:13:28.360 to the relationship if she's going out and basically like living her hunter s thompson
06:13:33.320 life driving like 100 miles on las vegas strip like yeah at that point you could say like sweetie
06:13:38.080 like submit to me you're kind of crazy but if she's going out doing things that are going to
06:13:41.700 harm the fidelity of the relationship that's a different equation i don't understand why you're
06:13:45.340 disagreeing with brian so if a woman were to go out with her friends and not tell him at all that
06:13:49.020 would be disrespectful right and then let's say he were to say hey i do not want you to do that
06:13:53.740 she's then prompted like hey i don't my man does not want me to do this that would be a
06:13:58.000 non-submissive woman the reason i'm disagreeing with brian is because i want him to have higher
06:14:01.220 standards he's conflating submission with bare minimum i'm quite certain that brian has the
06:14:05.600 highest standards of almost any man if he's if he's having to articulate why it is that he wants
06:14:09.960 his own bed at night and then women are crashing out on him that's emotional hostility that's
06:14:14.820 basically being disrespected that's not submission that's just having a basic emotional boundaries
06:14:19.240 wanting to be respected if the inverse were to happen where it's a woman saying listen sweetie
06:14:23.140 you know i just don't want to share a bed tonight and the guy was like okay he would leave but if
06:14:27.340 if he were to say no i'm not going to do this it would be seen as hostile and toxic wait wait
06:14:31.380 yet that's not acknowledged i agree well hold on i agree with brian because i don't like sleeping
06:14:35.880 in the same bed as people either so i agree with him there however i do also think that the no bed
06:14:40.800 thing could be a huge deal breaker for someone and it's just something that you should put out
06:14:45.800 before you bring someone over just so they don't have the the the because then you're just giving
06:14:50.320 yourself a headache with her crash outs so it's just a good thing to put out there like hey this
06:14:54.940 is I don't really like you know sharing beds or whatever I mean it's just like that way you're not
06:14:59.380 also ruining you're also not like wasting your time too you're not wasting your time you're not
06:15:04.500 dealing with the crash out you're not wasting her time because it could be a huge deal breaker
06:15:08.820 Okay, so I agree with you that it's probably a good idea to preemptively let somebody know that this is something that you want or whatever.
06:15:18.140 However, if it isn't disclosed, the woman should still acquiesce to your boundary, to your determination on this issue and not fucking freak out about it.
06:15:31.240 Well, I just think it's like they get a little blindsided because you just like had sex with them.
06:15:36.160 they're all emotional and now it's like you're dismissing them women are emotional yeah really
06:15:41.120 so yeah you got to regulate you got to regulate your emotional response to that and uh not like
06:15:47.580 just have a make a scene basically no not make a scene i just i can understand why they feel
06:15:53.760 dismissed a little bit women want women will submit when you make them feel comfortable
06:15:57.820 if you're not reject they maybe feel what really is important is that a woman doesn't submit to uh
06:16:02.940 just any man because let's say a man is like hey i want to be a cuck like destiny or something
06:16:06.220 right like you wouldn't want a woman to do that that's not a good woman you want a woman who's
06:16:10.540 submissive to god right and if a man has godly leadership she should be submissive to that man
06:16:15.140 and his instructions so to be really specific about it a woman should be submissive to god and
06:16:20.180 godly male leadership so uh okay another disagreement we have hannah here too aggressive
06:16:26.120 with religious views i assume that relates to andrew wilson just because i'm not particularly
06:16:31.040 religious uh be a little more kind do you want to elaborate on that i think if you're taking like a
06:16:38.120 religious approach especially with like only fan girls like when they're just like you're a hoe
06:16:42.000 you're a whore you're i'm like i don't i don't do that i've well i've seen clips before where like
06:16:47.080 is it andrew you asked it was the question yeah but the andrew's not here so like well i just
06:16:53.040 answered the question oh okay i mean he does come on the podcast a lot so he's tight well i mean
06:16:57.860 are you are you religious or um i grew up very very mormon but currently i got excommunicated
06:17:03.920 oh okay we'll talk about that in a moment and then i got re-baptized by my ex-husband
06:17:08.780 so what's your current status though um i'm not active lds i do you believe in god i think so
06:17:17.100 but i'm gonna be honest it's kind of like a mind f like when you go from like one extreme in a
06:17:22.460 religion to like to like questioning like lds culture in general now it's like okay well what
06:17:28.660 is real but i still like would love to have some type of like christian base it's just it's like
06:17:35.920 very confusing i guess okay um well yeah i mean as far as andrew's disagreements with
06:17:41.740 sex workers for example uh i mean sex work is completely incompatible with lds it's
06:17:48.220 incompatible with christianity it's incompatible with uh is islam but what's the what is it i
06:17:55.860 don't know i could be saying strong like what john 3 15 or something it's like god came to the world
06:17:59.660 to condemn that like not to condemn people but to save them it's like so when you're really that
06:18:04.700 harsh with people do you actually think they're open to hearing your i mean wasn't jesus like
06:18:09.400 with the pharisees he was like knocking tables over yes like so i mean this idea that christians
06:18:14.900 need to be like
06:18:15.820 this
06:18:17.920 just tolerant of all behavior
06:18:21.200 I'm not saying be tolerant
06:18:22.840 but I'm just saying
06:18:23.720 we can discuss pornography and OnlyFans
06:18:26.260 from a non-religious perspective if you'd like
06:18:28.620 no all I'm saying is
06:18:30.180 the delivery and even the tone
06:18:32.600 that's the furthest thing from Christ
06:18:34.520 coming from a godly man
06:18:36.180 that's the thing I understand
06:18:37.480 so you're saying it's too religious
06:18:39.640 and now you're saying it's not really Christ like
06:18:42.120 so you've got to pick one
06:18:43.420 Well, that's the thing, is that Andrew Wilson has true, righteous passion inside of himself.
06:18:48.080 He has true conviction in his beliefs.
06:18:50.180 But what Hannah is addressing is this wounded zeal where one of the virtues of love and inner peace is kindness.
06:18:58.240 Where if someone is being cruel to you, you turn the other cheek and give them kindness.
06:19:01.080 The thing is, Angelica, is that we're all different.
06:19:03.880 I actually just read this, and I think it was 1 Corinthians.
06:19:05.920 Have you met that man? He pops us in every two seconds and calls women bitches all the time.
06:19:09.040 Andrew Wilson?
06:19:09.800 I mean, Andrew Wilson.
06:19:11.320 Andrew Wilson.
06:19:12.140 I know.
06:19:12.500 At this point, it might as well be Andrew Wilson.
06:19:13.460 That's what I'm saying.
06:19:14.040 If you're not wanting him to judge you, why are you judging him?
06:19:16.900 So that's my mindset.
06:19:17.780 He does all this before the judgment.
06:19:19.520 I know, but I'm like, I'm not going to judge someone for judging because then I'm like
06:19:22.220 multiplying judgment.
06:19:23.340 But I understand why he does that.
06:19:24.520 Angelica, it says in the first Corinthians that we're all different parts of the body
06:19:28.920 of Christ.
06:19:29.440 We all have different functions.
06:19:30.700 None of us can be a Christ.
06:19:31.840 Some of us are going to be a lot more kind.
06:19:33.200 Some of us are going to be like legalistic and saying, hey, we're going to go into this
06:19:36.080 temple and flip over tables.
06:19:36.980 That's a reference to when Jesus went into a temple and basically flipped over a bunch of people's tables and whatnot and got very mad at them.
06:19:43.320 So some of us are supposed to be kind.
06:19:45.300 Like, you might be very kind.
06:19:46.180 You're a woman.
06:19:46.920 It's kind of the usual.
06:19:48.240 But, like, some of us are meant to be very assertive and dominant.
06:19:50.740 And, like, the table flippers, essentially, that just kind of call out the bullshit, be very blunt about it and say, you know, we're not being nice here.
06:19:57.980 And so none of us can be Christ, but we're all different parts of the body of Christ.
06:20:02.300 So we'll have different characteristics of Christ.
06:20:04.000 I 100% agree.
06:20:04.960 I understand that text, I agree with it, because the way I came to Christianity was just like that tough love, and I appreciate that tough love, that's why I like Andrew Wilson.
06:20:13.340 But at the same time, there is room for criticism, where something that he can improve on is, if you're swearing, it clouds your mental clarity.
06:20:19.760 That's why the Bible says to be careful of perverse speech.
06:20:22.940 So if you're calling a woman a hoe and all of this jazz, you're no longer approaching it from a Christian perspective.
06:20:28.540 If you call a woman a whore, and then you also call a woman a promiscuous woman, they have the exact same meaning.
06:20:34.960 Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I think I caught the tail end of this.
06:20:39.240 But I think Jesus was referring, referred to people as vipers.
06:20:43.760 That's a different group that you don't want to mention right now.
06:20:46.820 Wait, well, hold on.
06:20:47.520 But like back in, so historically, you'd agree with me that there's like a, I don't know, euphemism treadmill?
06:20:57.820 Or no, I think I might be using that wrong.
06:20:59.520 wrong but like um insults evolve devolve over time so like back in when jesus was alive to
06:21:08.000 call somebody a viper is like massive like super insulting like it's it's probably like the
06:21:13.880 equivalent of calling a guy like a pussy or a that's not perverse speech though i mean you
06:21:17.560 just gave two no but wait what perverse speech is like vulgar where it's like at the pussy or
06:21:23.500 What makes it vulgar?
06:21:26.020 It's referring to bottling function.
06:21:27.200 Hold on.
06:21:27.700 I don't care about this conversation.
06:21:29.120 No offense.
06:21:30.220 Back to your point, though.
06:21:32.700 Be a little more kind, too aggressive.
06:21:34.560 Is this just about Andrew Wilson, though?
06:21:36.020 He's not here to defend himself.
06:21:39.440 Yeah.
06:21:40.040 Was there anything else?
06:21:40.820 Okay, we're going to get into the other things of the questionnaire here.
06:21:43.740 Let's see here.
06:21:45.780 Shona, women do not have equal rights to men in the USA, to which you agree.
06:21:49.400 Why is that?
06:21:49.800 It just pertains to abortion rights.
06:21:51.620 i can't get an abortion either in texas did you know that did you know that i cannot get an
06:21:59.060 abortion i do not have the right to get an abortion in texas and a lot of other states
06:22:02.700 which have banned abortion did you know that oh my god he doesn't have the right there's no way
06:22:08.980 that the issue behind abortion or like the the problem that initially occurs as to why a woman
06:22:12.820 gets abortion that will never apply to a man but okay but but but so the framing of the question
06:22:18.140 relates to equal rights well right now as it stands i'm gonna say draft aside because that
06:22:23.500 doesn't actively affect any men right now it's not been implemented it slavery happens a long
06:22:28.540 time ago does that mean it doesn't have an impact today slavery doesn't actively affect black people
06:22:33.500 right now but there's like really why are they poor that wait why are black people poor well
06:22:37.020 i'm just saying there's there's ultimate and there's proximate causes okay but but why are
06:22:40.500 they what's approximate wait what's approximate cause like things like redlining pro that's what
06:22:45.760 Oh, you're talking about economic institute.
06:22:47.200 I'm asking what the definition of proximate is.
06:22:49.080 Proximate is more nearby.
06:22:50.340 Ultimate is further down.
06:22:50.860 What are you studying in college again?
06:22:52.760 Psych.
06:22:53.440 Okay.
06:22:54.020 Okay, and you just said redlining, which happened dozens of years ago.
06:22:57.100 So that's still something that would affect them today.
06:22:59.820 That was in the past.
06:23:00.720 You realize your logic does not follow through.
06:23:02.960 Right now, okay, all I was trying to say with the abortion thing is as it stands today,
06:23:07.160 and draft aside, that's like a whole other topic.
06:23:09.020 And if you want to say, oh, draft invalidates what you're saying, sure you can.
06:23:12.840 But just on the topic of abortion.
06:23:14.680 He didn't bring the draft up, but men don't have any reproductive rights.
06:23:18.900 He can't get in the abortion.
06:23:20.180 Men don't have a reproductive system.
06:23:22.540 You don't have to have sex.
06:23:24.840 That's the amazing thing.
06:23:26.040 It's totally preventable.
06:23:27.340 Really quick, Natalia, I think for the gift of 20 memberships.
06:23:30.560 But, I mean, just to make it super quick, so you could say that there are abortion rights, which would primarily apply to women.
06:23:39.600 Well, they only apply it.
06:23:40.760 Almost only apply to women.
06:23:41.920 Wait, what about trans women?
06:23:42.760 i will say in this case biologically assigned at female at birth yeah but what if the woman
06:23:48.520 wants to abort a child that the man wants to keep that's his baby like then he has no say in it
06:23:52.720 it's her body though just this leads into a whole abortion debate yeah what is what is what i'm
06:24:00.120 studying maybe later we can have to deal with she's talking about his mental health so that's
06:24:03.700 exactly what it has to do with his mental health yes how would it affect his mental health if she
06:24:07.140 decides to have an abortion he doesn't want it would affect her mental health too and it affects
06:24:10.240 her body so therefore there's more effects yeah but is his does his mental health now i'm not
06:24:14.540 saying it doesn't matter i'm just saying you do that's exactly what i know a lot of it's not
06:24:18.620 what if it was allowed for him to take her to court to make sure that he could have his baby
06:24:22.400 she doesn't have to take care of the baby he can take hold of the baby when did i say his mental
06:24:26.960 health doesn't matter you just did i didn't his mental health matters his mental health matters
06:24:30.600 and mental health matters it's still her body and i still don't believe a fetus is you're a
06:24:35.060 an epilator well then how does a baby grow whatever you want to say how does how does it grow oh my
06:24:40.500 god we're getting so off topic uh here can you read this show now they want to confuse the diff
06:24:46.440 between getting on her knees looking up while giving oral versus doing laundry without being
06:24:51.560 asked which is the same only when a man asks to do the things no matter what and she agrees is
06:24:56.760 submissive never understood why this is so hard to understand i guess we didn't fully finish off the
06:25:02.020 the laundry thing i guess i could add two more things really quick then i'll move it on
06:25:06.440 uh you might think it's ridiculous that i have an expectation on the first time a girl comes over
06:25:11.220 for her to do my laundry i think it may be in total like one load of laundry i mean there's
06:25:17.680 machines that do it so folding is probably the primary time sink uh it maybe takes a woman 20
06:25:24.980 minutes tops to to do it uh in order for a man to take a woman out on a date let's say a guy
06:25:31.540 Let's say it's a younger guy, and he's going to pay for the date, and he makes $20 an hour, and he takes her to fucking Chili's, and they get a drink each, appetizer, main course, dessert, plus tip.
06:25:44.040 He's going to spend probably $100.
06:25:45.860 Now, let's say, okay, only $50 of that is for her.
06:25:51.120 So the math would work out to something like just for her portion to take her out to $100 Chili's date.
06:25:57.260 he has to work, not even factoring in taxes, he has to work two and a half hours if he's just
06:26:03.400 making $20 flat. It's more actually, well, I'm not including in his portion of the bill or whatever.
06:26:12.900 So if, when women say men should pay for first dates, if you take a girl out to a first date
06:26:18.580 and it's a hundred bucks, which I don't think is that unrealistic. Maybe you could get away with
06:26:23.540 something you could go to get burgers for 40 bucks something like you could get something
06:26:28.220 cheaper let's say it's even 20 bucks you spend on costco food court yeah say you spend shit you
06:26:33.060 can get we can keep going really really cheap but i don't think it's unreasonable like a mid-tier
06:26:36.820 mid-tier restaurant you might spend 100 bucks for the both of you uh 50 for her portion you
06:26:43.580 make 20 an hour let's not even factor in tax that's two and a half hours of work to take her
06:26:49.040 out on the date so it's like if that's the entailment of men should pay on first dates
06:26:55.000 you have to work for two and a half hours why can't i be like okay first time you come over
06:27:00.360 to my house i'd want a woman to work 20 minutes for me do you lay out like hey when you come over
06:27:06.460 i want you to do my laundry or is this like a test they should just do it they should just do
06:27:10.640 it why don't you just pay out of the kindness of your own heart maybe wait a month or so for the
06:27:14.600 laundry. Why should I pay? What do you mean pay? For the date? Well, what kind of date is it? Is it
06:27:20.920 like a coffee shop or are you taking her to fine dining? Because if you're taking her to fine
06:27:24.660 dining, I could see why you would want your laundry being done maybe. Well, I mean, even if
06:27:28.980 you go to a mid-tier restaurant, you could easily pay $100. But why is it out of the kindness of
06:27:36.200 my heart, I need to pay for the date? Why can't out of the kindness of her heart, she should do
06:27:40.860 my laundry to defend brian's did you want did you want to take her out huh you asked her out
06:27:45.780 that's incredible how do you ask her to do your laundry after a date like do you just he's not
06:27:50.240 exing though that's what he's saying oh that's wait most women won't even know they have to do
06:27:53.960 this like that's why i just say communication they should want women women oftentimes have
06:28:00.360 expectations that are unspoken of for men and if they don't deliver those expectations they will
06:28:04.620 break up with them because they get the ick and they won't explain or communicate that which is
06:28:07.900 also a subject that's been brought up so likewise brian is basically saying i don't need to
06:28:12.100 communicate these issues if they come up in the relationship i don't need to be transparent 24
06:28:15.980 7 so as to get you to oblige to some contractual relationship i think both should be transparent
06:28:21.060 it saves both of you a headache lay out the groundwork this is my must-haves this is my
06:28:24.740 these are my but do you do you guys do the same thing so you're saying oh brian you should
06:28:30.260 disclose this do you disclose uh like do women disclose if a woman has an expectation that the
06:28:37.400 should pay for the first date do women like check in beforehand and are they like yes by the way
06:28:42.920 no i just want to make sure you're paying for the date i don't don't do that i do like women
06:28:47.700 don't do that they just expect it no i do it they just expect it because you're expecting to pay
06:28:53.440 because you make more money i do it because that's what i want i want someone to provide
06:28:58.220 and not lead chocolate i was just gonna say like obviously like i understand why you're saying oh
06:29:03.280 well if i don't disclose it like but like women like they don't disclose the whole date thing
06:29:07.680 right but i think your expectation in this case just happens to be a little more unconventional
06:29:11.700 whereas it's a lot more common he's kind of just saying i'm still talking whereas it's a lot paused
06:29:16.520 okay i'm letting you know that i'm still making my point i just think it's a lot more common for
06:29:20.620 men to uh pay for a woman's date so i completely respect your preference and i understand why you
06:29:24.780 want it to be at your expectation given your preferences and what i understand about you so
06:29:28.100 far but you know sometimes you don't always have to chime in but what if what if you have a woman
06:29:36.340 who she would be like totally willing to do all those things for you she just didn't think of it
06:29:40.180 in the moment because it's not as common of a thing to come up for a woman to do a man's laundry
06:29:44.780 on the first day yeah so i do agree that i'm just trying to say it's not as common it's a bit
06:29:49.140 unorthodox and like super uncommon uh like probably 99.999 percent of men don't have this
06:29:57.380 expectation at all even if she's conservative and like about everything you're about yeah sure i
06:30:01.700 think most men are just like basically um happy to be uh worker ants for women which i reject uh
06:30:10.960 i i kind of reject that uh setup to be honest well that's the other thing about conservative
06:30:16.200 women excuse me there's this paradigm that's unfortunately like once again as i've referenced
06:30:21.420 before me me me where conservative women they have certain expectations of men that are
06:30:26.620 conservative-veined. There's liberal women who have certain
06:30:28.980 expectations of men that are liberal-veined, but they still have
06:30:30.940 expectations of men, and they're not thinking about
06:30:32.980 what they're going to show up or provide for them.
06:30:35.080 It's not self-sacrificial.
06:30:36.820 So that's the issue that's going on with modern
06:30:39.060 dating techniques. I agree. She's talking.
06:30:41.660 You weren't talking. You're not
06:30:43.100 in this conversation right now. No, she's talking. So that's kind of my
06:30:44.980 issue. It doesn't matter if a woman has conservative
06:30:46.780 politics or liberal politics.
06:30:48.840 The issue is, you know, a woman can be liberal
06:30:51.040 as Rizalda proves, and if they're meeting
06:30:53.060 each other's needs, why are you going to bring
06:30:55.080 problems into the relationships by saying oh well why don't you do this one role it's like if they're
06:30:59.860 meeting each other's needs that's all that's needed for a relationship i agree and i think
06:31:03.740 that's why expectations can be such a tricky thing to like uh shaggy thank you shaggy donated
06:31:09.180 two hundred dollars appreciate it man me and my wife have been together for 12 years me 42 her 46
06:31:16.220 she has always been full submissive to me and her friends are jealous of the joy she has all the
06:31:22.000 time she lives spoiled three years listen one x tip chair one is uh i said yo shaggy thank you
06:31:31.040 for the tts man i appreciate it thank you thank you dude wait chair one what i'm lying about
06:31:35.160 andrew wilson i just said he pops in and he's called woman derogatory names before and i think
06:31:39.340 both of those things are true like is that the i'm not saying that's actually a terrible thing
06:31:44.780 it's just like he he consumes nicotine oh my god crime of the century i don't know every time i've
06:31:51.780 Yeah, he smokes cigarettes.
06:31:53.620 No, that's cool.
06:31:54.260 That's cool.
06:31:55.100 It's good for you.
06:31:55.920 So Brian was mentioning it, that it's like the willingness of the girl to do that.
06:32:00.200 So if a guy on a first date didn't buy you flowers, you'd be like, okay, whatever.
06:32:07.120 But then you say, hey, I kind of wanted to get flowers.
06:32:08.860 He'd be like, oh, oh, okay.
06:32:10.120 And then he goes to the store and buys them.
06:32:11.520 He walks out of his seat, goes and buys the flowers.
06:32:13.720 It wouldn't really mean as much because he wasn't really intending to do that until you brought it up as kind of like a requirement, right?
06:32:19.160 Okay.
06:32:19.400 That's why I would never ask a man to get flowers
06:32:21.340 Because then suddenly it does take away the meaning
06:32:22.880 Exactly because it's like he should be willing to do that
06:32:25.580 Right and a woman should be willing to do a man's
06:32:27.560 Laundry if the man spent two and a half hours of his
06:32:29.440 Labor on the dinner
06:32:30.560 Right but you can't be telepathic like you can't just know
06:32:33.340 That he wants that
06:32:33.980 I just feel like that's something more personal
06:32:37.140 You know I don't know I just
06:32:38.940 I just find it very weird
06:32:40.520 But he's assuming that
06:32:42.480 We're also assuming he slept with these women
06:32:44.560 So how much more personal can it be
06:32:46.200 But I feel like the laundry is something
06:32:48.760 can i ask you guys can i ask you guys a question uh so i think most people um unless you're like
06:32:54.080 pretty christian or i mean you don't necessarily have to be religious i think most people fuck
06:32:59.760 pretty quickly um am i am i the bad guy here who who wants a little wholesome laundry done
06:33:06.980 whereas like other guys intention hold on but other guys intention is like he wants his cock
06:33:13.360 down fucking your taunts like he wants his penis his member into the crevices he wants to he wants
06:33:21.680 to blast he wants to blast up in inside of you he wants to blast on you he wants to do a var
06:33:29.360 variances of various sexual acts um with and around in and around your mouth and it's like
06:33:38.360 Am I, am I really the bad guy here?
06:33:40.280 I just want to pulse like a woman to just be all, be all cutesy in the laundry room,
06:33:45.260 folding my laundry.
06:33:46.300 Like I have this, this bad intention.
06:33:48.540 Meanwhile, this other guy you're on a date with wants to like choke you and have like
06:33:52.740 do all kinds.
06:33:53.960 I'm not a choking guy.
06:33:55.100 I'm not, look, I'll do a gentle one if you ask for it nicely.
06:33:58.220 Okay.
06:33:58.700 But I don't know.
06:33:59.780 Like, I don't know.
06:34:01.200 I think you have, I think your expectations are valid and you're not wrong in them.
06:34:05.600 I just think I've never heard of a man
06:34:07.500 ask me to wash his laundry, and I
06:34:09.380 might. I just think it's a...
06:34:11.080 Have you ever asked a man to buy you flowers? I washed my
06:34:13.380 husband's laundry. I'm saying on a first date.
06:34:15.460 I'm just saying after coming over.
06:34:17.680 First time at the house.
06:34:20.000 Right. And if you expect that, that's
06:34:21.660 fine. That's your preference. I just think that
06:34:23.480 a little bit of communication goes a long way.
06:34:25.340 That's what you expect. Maybe she'd be down for it, but maybe
06:34:27.400 she thought it was weird. No, so I do communicate it.
06:34:29.280 I have like a hundred
06:34:31.200 point girlfriend application,
06:34:33.260 and one of the questions is, are you
06:34:35.280 willing to do acts of service are you going to work on my garden you really do that's a little
06:34:39.380 yes i can't lie no i like that actually like that that's weird yeah no look here's the thing right
06:34:47.800 so okay if it helps you if it helps you that's cool love languages by the way you really can
06:34:54.180 mostly only leverage this if she's reaching out to you oh hi okay here's my girlfriend application
06:34:59.900 fill this out one of these days i'm going to show the girlfriend application but it's the secret
06:35:04.320 sauce i don't want to you know i i gotta keep it to me for a little bit but you know you said you
06:35:08.400 got a hella woman reaching out to you but in multiple relationships i'm not gonna hate that
06:35:11.520 like good for you well i mean uh yeah yeah i just never heard of that before yeah women dm me and
06:35:16.220 like whatever and it's not like i don't meet up with all of them but uh yeah the girlfriend
06:35:20.760 application i'm like will you do acts of service will you cook will you clean will you you know
06:35:25.640 that's your love language i think something about that just feels slightly less organic
06:35:28.980 i agree it's not organic but if like 10 women dm me a week like okay when you're at that level
06:35:38.760 hold on it's like also like even if it was like one woman a week or whatever i don't have time
06:35:47.100 to like organically like it's a lot of questions and these are things i care about no you're just
06:35:52.280 Organically, it would take hours to, like, siphon this out of a woman organically.
06:35:59.420 So, yeah, it's a little autistic.
06:36:00.840 I've had some women be like, Brian, I'm not filling that out.
06:36:03.200 I'm like, peace.
06:36:05.180 They're all good.
06:36:06.040 That's what I mean.
06:36:06.640 You're saving yourself a headache.
06:36:07.800 I'm like, back to the streets, you go, I guess.
06:36:09.320 It caught me off guard, but when you're this popular and you've got this many girls, like.
06:36:14.120 Bro, I'm not even that poppin'.
06:36:15.740 I don't have any ego.
06:36:17.180 Stop it.
06:36:17.620 Now you're being a little bit too shy.
06:36:19.680 In general, the social contract has been broken.
06:36:22.380 There is no sense of expectation anymore.
06:36:24.840 So if you're going to be engaging in a romantic sexual relationship with someone who might misinterpret and crash out,
06:36:29.780 like, for example, in Brian's case, the whole bedroom situation,
06:36:33.080 you're going to want to have some insurance to make sure she's not going to extrapolate something into something much bigger.
06:36:39.500 You're going to want to be more concise and thorough from the start.
06:36:43.060 Modernity has totally warped women's perception of what's degrading.
06:36:48.180 That too.
06:36:48.540 like all the sex what did you say i modernity has entirely warped women's perception on what's
06:36:56.620 degrading because talking about the sex acts like i think some of those things are far more degrading
06:37:03.260 than you know washing laundry washing laundry or any number of other things i mean we can also have
06:37:08.940 the sex acts but laundry too you know what i mean i have no problem doing a man's laundry if i'm with
06:37:15.100 them i just think if you're expecting it like first night over or whatever it should just be
06:37:19.180 oh wait who said related to that who said uh you want uh someone said something along along the
06:37:26.380 lines of either that's like wifey behavior but she's not your wife or like you want a mom somebody
06:37:31.680 said that i for i used the word wife you use the word like the that's the wife stuff yeah if you
06:37:38.280 want to become a wife you got to do the wifey stuff even before like for example imagine if a
06:37:43.080 guy was like you know what i'm not i don't want to protect i don't want to provide when we're
06:37:48.680 married then i'll pay for dates i think a lot of women would have an issue with with a man holding
06:37:55.360 back on his roles until marriage until further on in the relationship if for most women if it's like
06:38:02.460 oh i'm not going to pay now but like three months six months deep then i'll start paying for dates
06:38:08.160 i think a lot of women are going to have an issue with that that's a black pill position to have
06:38:11.820 though because it's like there's no there's no skills to basically show a man like these are
06:38:16.400 the skills you need these are the skills that a woman needs in a relationship nowadays you
06:38:20.260 basically have to find someone who's on the same page as you and say we'll grow together in our
06:38:23.540 femininity or masculinity and complement each other in what we don't currently have it's not
06:38:28.100 sometimes a woman is like a horse though like you gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta
06:38:33.980 you gotta train her a little bit it's not her fault it's not her fault society feminism
06:38:41.320 it's all brainwashing
06:38:42.860 sometimes you gotta put her on the right
06:38:45.840 no look
06:38:46.680 Disney fucked you up
06:38:48.940 all these stupid Disney movies
06:38:52.060 yeah let me put you on some games
06:38:53.960 well the mission is not bad
06:38:55.200 no it's not but at the same time
06:38:57.220 well my first point is how can a woman be a homemaker
06:38:59.660 if there is no home that the man has provided
06:39:01.460 and number two back to Griselda's point
06:39:03.140 if you guys are doing 50-50
06:39:05.000 then you're basically
06:39:07.220 making up for I assume that you're working class
06:39:09.440 you have to make up for it because the man can't make that income and afford a home on his own
06:39:14.220 so that's a form of submission um uh so anyways i gotta move it on but oh the bow video play the
06:39:19.880 bow video super quick then we have a fun segment we have the ai segment so okay it's going to be
06:39:23.780 bow then okay this is my ex-girlfriend and i show this video so what i did was i um this is a
06:39:30.600 tutorial video you know in a video game how there's a tutorial i thought you know why why tell
06:39:37.200 when i can show so this is something i you know like have you ever had a job at a fast food
06:39:42.320 restaurant and like they sit you in the back room with like a tablet i guess the tablet now
06:39:47.200 or like a tv and they put in a vcr tape and they're like hey well i guess it wouldn't nowadays
06:39:53.440 it wouldn't be that but there's like here's a vcr they put in the vcr tape uh and then vhs tape i
06:39:59.280 guess i should say and uh you know they show you the the instructional video i do that with with
06:40:06.720 women you know why i don't want to have to constantly tell like use my you know i get
06:40:12.300 hoarse sometimes that's why i drink so much water i don't have to like walk every woman through it
06:40:17.220 so i'm just like i i have an instructional video i show them go ahead play roll the clip
06:40:22.340 roll so you do communicate yeah so boom huge bow she has to bow for me as soon as i come home
06:40:29.160 uh that's respect right she's got a bow now this is sort of like rage bait no this is real and
06:40:35.400 then like laundry of course and then look at this this was after a long podcast day uh she has my
06:40:41.900 food my dinner ready cracks open a beer look at how attentive she is look at how attentive she
06:40:49.000 stirs my noodles for me and i actually dumped her you see those tomatoes there i dumped her because
06:40:54.580 um why would i just want raw tomatoes disgusting yeah yeah so i show this to all my future
06:41:01.120 girlfriends uh well hopefully they watch the show so that i don't even have to show it to them
06:41:06.200 they just know what to do but yeah i do want a woman to bow for me um you're joking
06:41:11.680 that was the deal breaker for you tomatoes the raw tomatoes the raw tomatoes
06:41:17.620 what do you mean why should a woman yeah why what are you married right yeah did your husband get
06:41:26.300 down on one knee like a little simp?
06:41:28.440 Absolutely. He got down on one knee
06:41:30.420 and he looked up to you. He has done
06:41:32.440 it at least three times. Why did you just throw the tomatoes at him?
06:41:34.660 This motherfucker's been married three times?
06:41:36.460 No, he has asked me several times to remarry him.
06:41:37.980 Wait, you turned him down? No.
06:41:40.260 Why did he ask you three times? Because that's
06:41:42.320 basically you're renewing your
06:41:44.300 vows. He has done it.
06:41:46.600 Oh, renewing your vows.
06:41:47.820 So you're already married and he asks you to marry him.
06:41:50.260 He gets it down on his knee. He gives you another ring?
06:41:52.040 Oh, that's so beautiful.
06:41:53.860 No, I don't have my ring.
06:41:56.580 You're not wearing it.
06:41:57.500 Whoa.
06:41:59.900 Why don't you wear your ring?
06:42:01.360 It seems a bit odd.
06:42:02.300 Away from home for a few days.
06:42:03.480 Well, she's also just saying that she's married.
06:42:05.740 My husband dropped me off.
06:42:06.940 Okay.
06:42:07.240 But you don't wear your ring?
06:42:09.660 That's kind of peculiar.
06:42:10.500 Delica's not wearing her ring either.
06:42:12.280 And she lied about her husband.
06:42:13.240 I'm not wearing mine either because I was afraid I would lose it.
06:42:15.240 Wait, you're too far.
06:42:16.000 You're too far from the mine.
06:42:16.880 I'm not wearing mine either because I was afraid I would lose it.
06:42:19.120 I don't know.
06:42:19.640 I think it's a way bigger ask for a man.
06:42:21.640 He's also with me here.
06:42:23.220 Okay.
06:42:23.420 I think it's way bigger asks for a man to
06:42:25.940 spend X amount of money
06:42:28.120 on a ring
06:42:28.760 kneeling
06:42:30.240 first off
06:42:34.020 I don't want to get married
06:42:34.840 so how are you going to have kids
06:42:38.380 oh you think I can't
06:42:40.480 in order to
06:42:42.140 impregnate a woman you have to be married to her
06:42:44.540 no but I feel like that was
06:42:46.460 your belief that you need to get married
06:42:48.460 so you can have kids
06:42:49.940 I don't have a religious objection
06:42:52.460 to marriage but i definitely have a secular objection to marriage so but i can have i can
06:42:57.340 stay with the same woman for my entire life never been married and i can definitely get women
06:43:01.340 pregnant what's the objection what's the oh my god i mean it's a huge can of worms uh it's massive
06:43:07.180 financial liability i don't give a about a woman's money that means i'm willing to date a woman who's
06:43:11.900 essentially works at chick-fil-a or less i guess uh i'm a high earner so no pre you don't believe
06:43:20.620 Prenups get thrown out.
06:43:22.540 They get challenged.
06:43:23.720 It wouldn't even really protect me to that much.
06:43:27.540 But wouldn't getting married to a woman offer her security?
06:43:30.780 But that's her benefit.
06:43:32.620 That's her benefit.
06:43:33.900 But don't you learn to submit to you?
06:43:36.040 I don't benefit.
06:43:37.060 If you're not.
06:43:37.560 A woman, voluntarily.
06:43:40.360 Marriage just doesn't make sense if you're an atheist.
06:43:42.080 If you're not married to the woman and you have children, would you expect that the children have your last name?
06:43:47.440 Yes.
06:43:47.740 also how do you think your children will look i mean how do you think your children will feel
06:43:54.360 when you're not married to their mom don't you think what yeah i mean that that's weird
06:44:00.180 uh i don't think that's weird yeah they're gonna grow i mean my kids will definitely ask me my
06:44:06.260 kids definitely will ask me why you're not married to my daddy like you know that's actually things
06:44:10.520 that get thrown in school or something you know there's a lot of events at school but uh we're
06:44:16.100 together we're together and yeah i don't anticipate it being a problem just not legally married
06:44:23.420 basically you don't believe in actually marrying a girl if she's richer than me i'll think about it
06:44:30.620 i'll probably do it so just on the legal aspect you're fine with like religious socially marrying
06:44:35.720 a woman if you uh i'm saying this is my wife you just don't have the paperwork done like would you
06:44:42.760 ever give a ring yeah i guess that's acceptable huh would you ever like offer her a ring as a
06:44:46.700 commitment without actually i mean i'm not getting down on one knee but i might just be like
06:44:50.320 we're at mcdonald's or something i'm just like whose ring is that i'm just like
06:44:54.420 there you go it's a hard sell i guess we can fucking do it it's a super hard sell from a
06:45:00.560 secular perspective so like i totally get that like my only kind of sell from that angle is that
06:45:07.400 cohabitating couples, even ones who have kids within the first five years of like their children's
06:45:14.080 life are four times more likely to split up than if they're actually married? Well, I mean,
06:45:20.280 the statistics, while they might be true, I don't really think that they would apply to me.
06:45:27.980 You're the exception. I mean, he kind of is. So it's like, so just because, okay, so let me
06:45:36.560 like this, like just because the, the statistics are, you know, whatever, whatever the statistics
06:45:42.940 show, that doesn't mean that in your particular instance, that that is necessarily the probability
06:45:50.500 of you getting divorced. Yeah. So, uh, but I mean, I don't think it's, um, I don't know. Plus there's
06:45:59.260 plenty, there's plenty of divorce among married couples too. Okay. I agree with the no married
06:46:04.740 thing i probably never want to get married again and i said that earlier and i'm sorry tilt your
06:46:09.640 mic down um and riley looked at me like oh you're 41 you're never getting married that's why
06:46:17.280 yes and then with you he's cheering you on that you don't want to do that so i feel like that's
06:46:23.000 a little bit of a double standard here it's okay for you to not want i'm not cheering that on you
06:46:27.880 just said you just said oh well he's kind of got the upper hand yes i am a christian yes
06:46:31.480 that's why that's why i was fine with him not legally marrying a woman because what is marriage
06:46:38.080 in the sense of the state of california it's like two guys can get secular marriage is retarded yeah
06:46:42.380 it is retarded so stupid that's why i was asking i'm like okay good just making sure that you're
06:46:46.720 fine with socially marrying the woman giving her a ring staying with her forever right and then not
06:46:51.080 yeah not financially well i don't know about the like the the ceremonial stuff um now i don't know
06:46:59.220 it depends if she's a Christian woman, although I assume she, Christian women may have some aversion
06:47:03.940 to marrying someone who's more secular. Although, to be fair, I have pro-Christian sentiment, and I
06:47:09.660 believe that marriage makes sense from a religious perspective, but the legal liabilities, I mean,
06:47:15.060 even for Christian men, cannot be ignored, but there's a religious calling to get married, which
06:47:22.600 makes sense and is justified but from a purely secular perspective it's stupid um and then like
06:47:30.420 i don't know to answer your question uh okay well we didn't we didn't get the government involved
06:47:36.480 in our relationship but she loves me i love her if there wasn't a government nothing changes
06:47:43.240 fuck the government they don't get to dictate what how we feel about each other and you should
06:47:49.440 not be um my i suppose to my children you should not feel any uh less than because the the uh your
06:47:59.740 friends at school or whatever uh their their parents are married uh and the state has uh
06:48:05.780 sovereignty over their relationship so my question here is at what point do you call someone your
06:48:12.760 wife if you're not legally married like i'd probably just call her my girlfriend not your
06:48:17.900 partner partner's kind of gay to be honest that is very i agree i actually agree with that i agree
06:48:24.160 to be fair though at that point to be fair like i i think partner is uh i don't really some people
06:48:31.240 have objection to the partner term or whatever but like because i don't want to get married that
06:48:35.580 could be a good descriptive word to uh you know girlfriend does seem a bit sophomoric in a way
06:48:43.060 actually i have a great way you're okay with her also calling you he's my boyfriend not my husband
06:48:48.640 he's my man he's my he's my master whatever what the hell no i don't know yes in the bible it says
06:48:56.080 to call your husband lord actually oh there you go wait brian don't you believe in separation of
06:49:00.260 the church and state though like uh no i'd be fine with christian nationalism but do you recognize
06:49:05.360 that that's the government that exists right now like uh yeah our government our government is
06:49:11.080 influenced by judeo-christian values and was founded upon judeo-christian oh hold on wait
06:49:14.980 wait you're opening up way too many okay she's like no i don't know what separation of church
06:49:21.780 and state it means that we don't have a theocracy our government isn't governed by religion but what
06:49:26.580 does that have to do is getting married if it's marriage is something legally recognized by the
06:49:30.280 government oh natalia and if our government is not run by religion then the definition of marriage
06:49:35.200 shouldn't be like purely religious either and secular marriage should therefore be fine and
06:49:39.800 there shouldn't be a huge problem with that wait wait so when i say secular marriage is retarded
06:49:44.280 i acknowledge that people can get married absent like a religious ceremony um when i say it's
06:49:51.180 stupid or retarded absent like christianity and all that right no wait what i would disagree
06:49:56.500 absent christianity well so so wait what's your question well i'm saying okay you said that
06:50:02.220 secular marriage is stupid or whatever you like you're disavowed yeah i don't see the point of it
06:50:07.140 like what's the actual point of it well like when you get married there's like legal implications
06:50:12.120 and things that follow right like in terms of i don't know i'm not i'm not that old but like tax
06:50:17.000 stuff like health insurance stuff and also like the level of like commitment when it comes to
06:50:24.280 like a marriage like calling someone your wife there is a lot more of a serious implication than
06:50:28.460 saying that they're your girlfriend and to have that level of commitment and trust and partnership
06:50:32.540 is beyond just saying oh this is my girlfriend for life even though like we're not religious
06:50:36.580 and we don't want to take it to the next step yeah yeah i mean i i suppose um it's creates a
06:50:43.640 an additional barrier to separation uh i frankly i don't think that a relationship should be built
06:50:50.420 on we're going to stay together because it's going to be difficult for us to get out of a
06:50:55.240 relationship we don't otherwise want to be in that seems like a terrible foundation for a relationship
06:51:00.020 that is sort of the commitment argument is it's harder for us to untangle ourselves
06:51:06.520 from each other therefore we should stay together it's more that's fucking it's more so we made a
06:51:11.160 more serious promise and commitment to each other yeah what's the point of that if the guy ends up
06:51:15.400 to stay together and to have to stay together forever what do you mean it's a family if they
06:51:20.680 want a family if they want but so i i would i would say though i actually think in a situation
06:51:26.320 where the man is the breadwinner and i actually can sort of like looking at the chessboard you
06:51:31.020 guys might be able to turn this around on me if you see the chess pieces um so from my perspective
06:51:38.040 if i'm willing to date a woman who has makes little or no money uh one of the objections to
06:51:44.420 me getting married is that this would actually create uh an incentive tour for her to go towards
06:51:52.840 ending the relationship because there's a financial upside whereas if she breaks up with me like it's
06:51:57.680 the end of the relationship but then she's got no money and now she hasn't worked for 10 years
06:52:01.800 she stayed at home with the kids so what's her incentive uh what what do you mean well you're
06:52:07.300 saying that you know you don't want to get married because of money but then what's her incentive to
06:52:12.240 stay and give you seven children when there's no commitment financially there is a commitment
06:52:16.580 that's the thing is that i'm gonna i'm gonna stay with you for for our sake and for the sake of our
06:52:21.500 children marriage is a self-sacrificial religious institution when you go into it from this red
06:52:26.260 pillar feminist perspective it's like ultimately it's going to look like a negative to whoever's
06:52:30.680 participating in it because the women is going to end up as you said having to sacrifice her body
06:52:35.480 having to sacrifice her time and youth for a man and the man is going to sacrifice his money his
06:52:39.500 resources everything he's worked for it's like if you're not willing to trust the other person
06:52:42.860 marriage is just you know then you shouldn't have kids with them for sure i mean sure yeah
06:52:46.420 no you can have kids and not want to get married that's totally fine i don't think that's morally
06:52:51.420 correct that's flower children but your your perspective would also be riley that um any sex
06:52:59.680 outside of marriage is sinful and immoral right if you're not going to be with them for the rest
06:53:05.200 of your life yes no but even if you are going to be with them for the rest of your life but you're
06:53:08.940 not married well when you have sex outside of marriage is somebody somebody was actually
06:53:15.460 talking about like okay if you're dating versus married like what actually constitutes being
06:53:19.340 married and the answer to that is actually sex that is the actual exact moment when you do get
06:53:23.960 married which is why it is such a big deal to be promiscuous and have sex with a bunch of men
06:53:28.040 because you're getting married divorce married divorce married divorce married divorce spiritually
06:53:31.240 yes and your brain essentially just gets ruined spiritually no 100 i mean i also disagree with
06:53:36.320 hookup culture riley hold on riley if that was the case if it was the case that when you have sex
06:53:42.940 you are married, then why would there be a need for a formal marriage ceremony?
06:53:50.560 I think for the formal marriage ceremony, that is to show that you're actually serious about it
06:53:54.440 and you're not going to, how do I put it?
06:53:56.980 It's not, I would say that it's security for the girl to know like, okay, we're having this big event
06:54:01.380 where we're telling everybody about us.
06:54:03.040 We're spending a lot of money on it.
06:54:04.660 This is a pretty good chance he's actually being real about this.
06:54:07.740 Okay, I'll actually have sex with him because he's probably being genuine about it.
06:54:11.000 I've actually talked about this with my girlfriend.
06:54:12.520 I have an idea.
06:54:13.480 I have a better point.
06:54:14.220 Can I ask you a question rather?
06:54:15.100 Are you a virgin?
06:54:16.260 I'm not, no.
06:54:17.480 Okay.
06:54:18.120 It's been two years.
06:54:19.060 When it comes to marriage, it was a religious institution.
06:54:20.480 Wait, I have abstained for two years.
06:54:22.780 But trust me, by choice.
06:54:23.960 Just like you, I have a woman who reached out to me.
06:54:25.800 Yeah, yeah.
06:54:26.180 And it's been by choice for two years.
06:54:28.020 Marriage was supposed to be a religious.
06:54:28.600 Wait, but you are currently in a relationship?
06:54:30.800 Yes.
06:54:31.420 And so you both have been celibate?
06:54:33.620 No, no sex.
06:54:34.800 Oh, okay.
06:54:35.360 No sex.
06:54:35.820 Gotcha.
06:54:36.320 Marriage was supposed to be a religious institution where you had a blessing from the Lord,
06:54:39.700 but then it got absconded by the Enlightenment
06:54:41.660 Age that made it up state's material
06:54:43.900 contract about finances
06:54:45.540 and property contracts. It got perverted
06:54:47.820 and materialized.
06:54:49.900 But it used to have a...
06:54:50.860 Yeah, raw tomatoes,
06:54:53.700 what have you heard it?
06:54:55.740 What?
06:54:56.520 That was made a long time ago.
06:54:58.940 That was when you said you like it.
06:55:00.160 You didn't like raw tomatoes.
06:55:01.620 Alan Roach, thank you for the super chat, man.
06:55:04.380 Australian 100.
06:55:08.080 Foster's.
06:55:08.680 australian phobia okay um thank you man appreciate it i have a question i'm sorry okay what's your
06:55:14.220 question really quick my question is are you okay with that mentality in reverse so for example my
06:55:18.680 goal this year is to buy some land i don't have to pay property taxes in arkansas i would like
06:55:23.080 to have my children be able to also build on that land and the reason why i wouldn't want to get
06:55:27.500 married is because my goal is to give my children uh financial wealth you know through the years and
06:55:34.840 I, my number one priority now is my children. And so I'm opposed to marriage for the same
06:55:40.580 reasons you are, Brian. Are you against that? Like in reverse, are you against a woman having
06:55:45.940 that same mentality? Oh no. A woman who's cool with not getting married. I'm totally fine with
06:55:51.320 it. I'm totally fine with it. Uh, at least from my perspective, but, uh, do I object to like
06:55:57.400 a Christian marriage? No, totally fine with it. Makes perfect sense. Um, but, uh, I don't really
06:56:03.480 fully understand like why secular people non-religious people get married it just seems
06:56:08.500 kind of pointless to be honest i agree every i would argue everything that i could have in the
06:56:13.420 marriage i can have absent marriage like for example i could have somebody who i stay with
06:56:18.500 and who stays with me for the rest of my life i can have children so i can have all those things
06:56:24.080 what about health insurance that's usually the big number for my secular people that's why secular
06:56:28.260 people get married is health insurance property liabilities trust babies are expensive to have
06:56:32.560 Your wife will be able to get covered if she's not on your plan.
06:56:36.180 My last pregnancy was $130,000.
06:56:38.280 How will you manage finances?
06:56:40.420 There's a lot of questions that your sins arise.
06:56:43.700 You can still do it together.
06:56:45.120 So all that stuff, even if I grant that, okay, perhaps one of the benefits of marriage,
06:56:50.600 maybe it presents some financial benefits in either tax ways or other ways,
06:56:57.460 I find that kind of negligible in comparison to the massive financial risk
06:57:01.400 of like a community property. Uh, we're going to split ass, my assets really. And, uh, alimony.
06:57:08.740 I think that it's a huge liability for me specifically. Now, look, I'll tell you this
06:57:15.140 much. If I meet a woman who makes more than me and I like her best believe I'm marrying her.
06:57:23.600 Would you make her with women being a boss, babe? Hold on. I don't know. It's not that first off.
06:57:29.920 i don't it's okay it's not that i'm just saying like that's the circumstance under which i would
06:57:36.780 get married would be uh i don't know she's got a fuck ton of money more than me anyways um or
06:57:42.020 or commensurate uh let's move on to a different topic or no wait we had to do ai and then we had
06:57:47.140 to do we did the bow let's do the ai okay here's a fun segment we've made all of you dudes well i
06:57:52.660 guess riley we made him into a woman uh so the question is think of this in your head as you're
06:57:57.760 looking at this would you date the male version of you oh i look so chopped as a man uh just yes
06:58:03.800 or no would you date them no no okay next destiny would you date them uh no okay next
06:58:15.360 cave would you date them oh it went away uh probably yeah okay next how does your husband
06:58:24.120 about that wow this is so funny yikes no okay i'm scared i don't want to see what the
06:58:33.620 what is that picture you have a strong jawline why do i look so mean
06:58:39.500 i do have a strong yeah you look cute yeah i mean if i wasn't married sure
06:58:44.720 aside from the scowl i feel like if it was a better uh facial expression you know i think
06:58:49.700 he'd be like it's probably a good looking dude yeah next it's not bad this is funny you're too
06:58:59.460 far from the mind just skipper skipper skipper skipper skipper you're a good looking man yeah
06:59:06.200 yeah next absolutely not what what about you he looks like he's worth 20 million dollars
06:59:18.840 He looks like he lives in Orange County
06:59:22.600 Like he does
06:59:23.820 So no
06:59:25.600 Into the mics guys
06:59:27.680 I mean I'd give him a chance
06:59:31.120 Okay next
06:59:32.420 I'm so sorry
06:59:35.900 Wow that was racist
06:59:36.920 Here I'll pull it up again
06:59:40.360 Into the mic would you date him
06:59:43.720 No cause he's black
06:59:46.140 Wait
06:59:47.140 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
06:59:51.000 He's wider than you.
06:59:56.440 What?
06:59:57.500 Wait, what?
06:59:58.540 Riley and I have way more in common than we thought.
07:00:02.720 Oh, shit.
07:00:03.780 I feel how weird.
07:00:05.600 This is wonderful.
07:00:07.160 Wait, why?
07:00:09.260 Why what?
07:00:10.780 Like, why don't I like...
07:00:11.740 You like white boys?
07:00:12.180 You don't date black guys?
07:00:13.500 No.
07:00:14.400 Why is that?
07:00:14.840 Have you ever dated the black guy?
07:00:16.140 Riley can give you so many answers.
07:00:17.160 I can give you a lot of reasons.
07:00:18.880 I've talked to a black guy, yeah.
07:00:20.040 Can you name some reasons?
07:00:20.820 Repeat it.
07:00:21.400 I've talked to a black guy.
07:00:22.960 Did you smash?
07:00:24.220 Yeah.
07:00:26.040 But I wouldn't date one.
07:00:27.960 Wait, so do you just like, it's not your preference?
07:00:30.760 You don't find them attractive?
07:00:32.520 I guess it's both of those.
07:00:33.840 I used to like them, and then I kind of grew out of it.
07:00:36.160 So I like whites and Mexican.
07:00:37.880 What made you grow out of it?
07:00:38.840 You used to like women?
07:00:40.340 No, whites.
07:00:41.340 Oh, okay.
07:00:42.040 Especially women, too.
07:00:43.140 What made you grow out of black men and not like them?
07:00:46.140 i don't know i just like grew out of it i don't know i'm not allowed to be racist anymore i got
07:00:51.700 called out for it i was just i was hoping yeah i guess it just like i don't know i don't think
07:00:56.740 they're like ugly it just wait so here a couple questions for you uh so you're black would you
07:01:03.700 would you rather right i don't know maybe just winds up um would you rather date a black person
07:01:12.280 Or hold on, let me rephrase this.
07:01:14.460 Would you rather date a black man or a white man?
07:01:18.600 A white man?
07:01:20.200 For real.
07:01:20.940 Would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
07:01:23.760 Asian man.
07:01:24.660 Would you rather date a black man or a Latino man?
07:01:27.260 A Latino man.
07:01:28.200 Would you rather date a black man or an Indian man?
07:01:34.260 Yo, yo, yo.
07:01:35.480 Why are Indians catching the same thing?
07:01:36.400 Oh my God, I'm going to give it to you.
07:01:38.540 That face.
07:01:39.260 I'm going to give it to you.
07:01:40.240 You're going to feel my Pakistani beef.
07:01:41.840 I'm going to have to go with the black eye.
07:01:43.780 The black eye?
07:01:44.820 Okay, wait, wait.
07:01:46.160 I got more.
07:01:47.240 I got more.
07:01:49.520 Would you rather date a black man or a Native American man?
07:01:54.020 Native American.
07:01:55.840 I'm trying to think.
07:01:56.440 What other?
07:01:56.860 Maybe an eagle spirit.
07:01:57.700 An Aboriginal.
07:01:59.200 That's black, basically.
07:02:00.540 Not really.
07:02:01.240 Wait, wait.
07:02:01.960 Well, it's Australian Aboriginal.
07:02:03.900 Yeah, Australian Aboriginal.
07:02:04.740 I think, honestly, yeah.
07:02:05.320 I think that's all the races.
07:02:07.020 No, I feel like I might have missed.
07:02:08.620 But it's not Asian.
07:02:10.380 American black or African black?
07:02:12.220 Oh, would you rather date a black man or an Arabic man?
07:02:19.140 Muslim or not Muslim.
07:02:20.700 Yeah.
07:02:22.520 Just Arabic.
07:02:23.800 Arab.
07:02:25.340 Arabic's a language.
07:02:27.180 Sorry.
07:02:27.740 Continue.
07:02:28.720 An Arab?
07:02:30.160 Arab.
07:02:31.560 Arab.
07:02:32.200 An Arab.
07:02:33.000 Arab.
07:02:33.720 Or a black man?
07:02:34.820 An Arab.
07:02:35.440 An Arab.
07:02:36.340 Or a black man?
07:02:37.420 Yeah.
07:02:39.420 I don't really know what an Arab...
07:02:40.980 Do they look like an Asian or something?
07:02:43.980 They're actually very good looking men.
07:02:46.060 But Arab, I never had that before.
07:02:48.460 All right.
07:02:49.680 Okay, interesting.
07:02:51.600 I feel like I should ask you this question too.
07:02:53.700 Do you have a racial dating preference?
07:02:55.280 In the target zone now.
07:02:56.100 I don't have a preference.
07:02:56.920 Okay, Riley.
07:02:57.380 I don't have a preference.
07:02:58.200 But okay, would you rather date...
07:03:00.940 Have you dated black men?
07:03:02.400 Yes, I've dated black men.
07:03:03.980 Wait, are you in a relationship right now?
07:03:07.000 Yes, I'm in a relationship right now.
07:03:08.240 Is it with a black man, white man?
07:03:10.620 If I said white man, would it interest you?
07:03:13.740 No, I'm just asking you the question.
07:03:15.400 It's a black guy?
07:03:16.100 Okay.
07:03:16.860 Would you prefer to date a black man or a white man?
07:03:21.800 How much money do they make?
07:03:26.500 What is the credit score?
07:03:29.400 They make the same.
07:03:33.000 This is kind of hard.
07:03:35.460 I've never fully...
07:03:36.700 You've never met a black guy who made the same as a white man?
07:03:39.780 No, that's not it.
07:03:40.500 What is the relationship with shark loans?
07:03:44.420 I want to say a black man, yeah.
07:03:47.360 Wait, can I take it up a notch with this?
07:03:49.020 Oh my god.
07:03:50.000 No, no, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad.
07:03:54.460 Okay, African American or African African?
07:03:57.240 What the fuck?
07:03:58.420 No, there's a big difference.
07:03:59.740 I have gotten along with African Africans so much.
07:04:03.800 I would say if it was
07:04:05.200 Like a Nigerian
07:04:06.160 Yeah
07:04:06.340 Like a Nigerian
07:04:07.640 If it was
07:04:08.460 I would probably say
07:04:09.320 Over African
07:04:10.140 African over African American
07:04:11.920 Yeah
07:04:12.420 Interesting
07:04:12.960 Okay
07:04:13.420 Interesting
07:04:14.080 They're so much nicer
07:04:15.520 Nigerians are awesome
07:04:16.660 I love Nigerians
07:04:17.360 Well you lived in Africa
07:04:18.440 For a little bit
07:04:19.220 Yeah
07:04:19.560 I love black people
07:04:20.840 I love them
07:04:21.520 They're wonderful
07:04:22.240 Yeah
07:04:22.580 Especially the Nigerians
07:04:23.480 Even though you don't have any friends
07:04:24.620 You don't even have any black friends
07:04:25.800 I have to fix it
07:04:26.540 You both are so weird
07:04:27.940 I know
07:04:28.280 That's a nice one
07:04:29.260 You both say Trump
07:04:30.280 I love
07:04:30.740 You're just trying to
07:04:31.640 You're trying to save yourself
07:04:33.080 Okay
07:04:33.680 Here, moving on
07:04:35.400 Something else from the questionnaire
07:04:37.400 Wait, I'm going to see the man me
07:04:39.260 Oh, the pictures? Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, my bad
07:04:41.460 Let's continue
07:04:43.500 Oh my god
07:04:44.460 You look like, what's that guy's name?
07:04:46.360 I feel like they altered my face
07:04:47.840 But your skin's clear, like what?
07:04:50.840 Oh my gosh, the guy that dated Kim Kardashian
07:04:53.320 I like Asian
07:04:54.040 That's the same name
07:04:55.180 I like Mexican men
07:04:58.520 I like Mexican men, so no
07:05:00.960 He's a good looking guy
07:05:03.640 yes for sure so fruity there's potential there's white mexicans that man is fully white um no
07:05:10.260 there's white mexicans i know there are white look at his facial okay that's nordic yeah next
07:05:15.300 it's giving my brother no that actually doesn't look like my brother yikes no no that's hideous
07:05:22.580 that's not even my looks match no that's no that's that's incorrect error okay next smash
07:05:29.840 I'm kidding.
07:05:30.660 Oh, actually.
07:05:31.580 You look like a flight attendant.
07:05:35.020 A sexual flight attendant.
07:05:37.940 That face does not look natural.
07:05:39.360 I might go gay.
07:05:41.020 That face does not look natural.
07:05:42.460 You have a thick eyebrow.
07:05:43.860 See, here's the thing.
07:05:44.780 Women can transition into a man very easily, and sometimes it's passable.
07:05:48.080 This is direct evidence that all these transgenders trying to transition into a woman, it's impossible.
07:05:51.940 Even with AI, you can't do it.
07:05:54.100 That was an attractive woman.
07:05:56.140 No, it was not.
07:05:56.880 Yes, it was.
07:05:57.780 Look at that.
07:05:58.660 No, it was not.
07:05:59.120 Look, I get the left picture.
07:06:00.800 I get what you're saying about the left picture, but the very right picture, I don't think so.
07:06:04.000 Brian, would you smash?
07:06:06.380 Smash or pass.
07:06:07.520 She does your laundry.
07:06:08.360 She did your laundry.
07:06:08.860 She did your laundry on the first night.
07:06:10.940 Huge labia.
07:06:11.900 Huge labia.
07:06:12.120 It literally just looks like him with a wiggle.
07:06:14.360 They made his cheeks slightly puffier.
07:06:16.900 The face is shrunk by 20%.
07:06:19.540 The jaw is softer.
07:06:20.000 Why did your face look so skinny in the first picture?
07:06:23.300 You have to answer.
07:06:24.280 Oh.
07:06:24.800 Oh, gee.
07:06:25.520 Smash or pass.
07:06:26.320 You look like one of those
07:06:28.340 tomboys. You look like you're on Orange is the New Black.
07:06:31.520 She's cute. You were definitely on the field hockey team.
07:06:33.200 I think very cute. Very natural.
07:06:35.280 I feel like it's made you look better
07:06:37.100 before. This one I think is good.
07:06:38.860 That is true. I still think she's cute.
07:06:41.540 Yeah.
07:06:42.720 Do you think she has a big labia?
07:06:44.240 She's the main character.
07:06:46.540 Wait, speaking of big labia.
07:06:49.240 It would pass over.
07:06:51.200 Who here
07:06:52.120 has a big labia?
07:06:54.400 We all know, not me anymore.
07:06:56.320 how do you know what's big i have a big let's just say audi who here has an audi labia
07:07:05.740 ryan is fishing for his future wife i know you're asking me some questions or i got an impression
07:07:12.500 what is the impression of my partner to know okay i like how he ranked hannah the highest
07:07:18.500 on the looks question and then he directly asked her big lobbyist wait can you can you answer this
07:07:24.300 What determines, like, you said you look at a woman and you're like, I got big labia vibes.
07:07:27.960 Like, what gives you the big labia vibe?
07:07:29.660 Like, what is it in a woman that gives you the big labia vibe?
07:07:32.380 It's the testosterone.
07:07:35.640 We get big dick energy.
07:07:37.120 Like, what's BL energy?
07:07:38.940 Look, I got to be honest.
07:07:40.220 It's not 100%.
07:07:42.120 It's not a science, okay?
07:07:44.020 Sometimes I've been pleasantly surprised, and sometimes I've been way off the mark.
07:07:48.720 I will say, I can't even pinpoint it.
07:07:51.560 It's just the vibe, yo.
07:07:52.980 Yeah.
07:07:53.200 like i just get a vibe sometimes i can look at a woman i'm like
07:07:56.760 but other times i've been like i thought i had her pegged no wait
07:08:00.820 pause and then and i and i was totally wrong i was like she gave me big lady energy but she had
07:08:09.580 like a a crate like just an innie happens it's like you don't like charles xavier of vaginas
07:08:16.940 basically it's just like trying to summon i have energy i have been doing research my own research
07:08:22.300 on this subject and i'm actually writing a book on it so oh my god a profession a whole book
07:08:28.680 is it a deal breaker for you would you have children within any just because it does grow
07:08:33.360 after childbirth so would you risk it all and have children within any i don't think like you're
07:08:39.060 talking about a child's genitalia it's a little bit weird no no you're misunderstanding my question
07:08:44.780 Why is your brain going there?
07:08:46.020 Yeah, that's not what you're saying.
07:08:46.840 Like, that's weird.
07:08:47.840 But would I, if she's a really fantastic woman.
07:08:54.400 Does the laundry, you know.
07:08:57.160 I'll take one for the team.
07:08:58.560 Oh, my gosh.
07:08:59.240 I'll take one for the team.
07:09:00.200 It can grow.
07:09:01.060 There's a chance.
07:09:01.680 It does happen.
07:09:02.600 No, it doesn't.
07:09:03.660 Like, maybe a teeny bit.
07:09:05.080 But, like, giving birth.
07:09:06.400 That's why I had mine chopped off.
07:09:08.580 Because during birth, hormones change a lot.
07:09:11.660 My nose grew.
07:09:12.740 Like, things grow.
07:09:13.620 Dude, so much labor.
07:09:14.700 yeah it's a lot it's a lot a lot of labia yeah i mean it's an important subject you have a t-shirt
07:09:21.640 so i'm just saying look it's not a deal breaker it's not a deal breaker um but you know kind of
07:09:26.680 like you know how like a guy who's like five foot seven has to make up for it okay well he's five
07:09:32.940 foot seven but he's rich and blah blah whatever like if a woman hasn't any that's most women she
07:09:39.820 really i don't know it might be 50 50 uh she really had you know she's got to make up for it
07:09:46.460 is what i'm saying okay so how does she do that look it's like a guy with a like a guy with a
07:09:51.320 small dick like he's got to make up for it yeah he's got to make up for it in other ways right
07:09:56.480 so it's like it depends on the culture i respect the preference culture yo okay good talk uh next
07:10:04.340 topic then uh y'all keep wanting to talk about this big labia thing i feel like i don't know
07:10:09.300 it seems like you guys want to
07:10:10.840 they're insecure about it, they're seeking affirmation
07:10:13.380 they're like, wait, wait, but what if it's
07:10:15.320 like small brine, is that like
07:10:17.340 okay? Also, where's this application of yours?
07:10:20.640 Exactly
07:10:21.040 Do you want to be his girlfriend?
07:10:22.720 What the fuck?
07:10:24.360 I was imitating you guys
07:10:25.760 Wait, it's okay
07:10:27.480 I don't think anyone here is applying
07:10:29.720 Griselda
07:10:30.540 Wrong for a man to dump
07:10:33.580 his girlfriend if she regularly turns him
07:10:35.500 down for sex
07:10:36.240 Yeah, absolutely
07:10:38.760 I mean, I know men are always up for sex, but women are not all the time.
07:10:44.160 I mean, there's a lot of reasons why women might not want to have sex certain days of the week or, you know, certain days of the month.
07:10:51.120 And, you know, again, women are more emotional than men.
07:10:55.740 I know men, you know, even in a marriage, I mean, you know, it's different when you're married, yes.
07:11:01.140 But women are more emotional.
07:11:03.680 Sometimes, I don't know.
07:11:04.840 Sometimes I don't feel good.
07:11:06.140 Sometimes I, you know, I don't know, something, it's going on in my head, and I don't want to have sex, because for me, it's an intimacy, yeah.
07:11:13.320 So, okay, I think that if...
07:11:15.380 We're not talking about all the time, we're just talking here.
07:11:17.500 Yeah, so the question is, regularly turns them down.
07:11:20.240 So if the girlfriend is sick, or she's not feeling well, or maybe she's just having an off day, and she's not in the mood, I think that's totally fine.
07:11:29.980 However, if you're regularly turning down, then...
07:11:35.960 I still believe that it shouldn't be a reason for a man to dump a woman.
07:11:39.980 I would argue, in the same way that Brian brought up the whole,
07:11:43.060 and it's a great example, honestly, the whole bed situation,
07:11:45.940 that's neglecting a woman's attention and affection theoretically.
07:11:49.220 So if a woman is neglecting a man sexually,
07:11:52.020 would you be okay if a man was neglecting you with the affection and attention?
07:11:55.320 And if he was, would it be okay for a woman to dump him
07:11:58.420 if he's not meeting her emotional needs?
07:12:02.180 I was just going to say, I kind of agree.
07:12:03.520 I think your sexual needs, like both men and women's sexual needs are important in a relationship the same way a woman's needs for affection.
07:12:08.480 I just don't think women have sexual needs, not like men.
07:12:11.040 I mean, like, are you saying, like, you wouldn't want to have sex with them or you wouldn't even do sex with them?
07:12:15.660 Women have sex with them.
07:12:16.200 Those are unstable women.
07:12:18.260 Those are unstable.
07:12:18.920 I'm like, yo.
07:12:19.980 Like, that's not natural for a woman.
07:12:21.300 No woman is going, like, at 13.
07:12:23.240 Wait until you're in your 40s sexual.
07:12:23.320 Like, I have to go to my room with a magazine.
07:12:25.540 It's girls are basically thinking, I'm going to fall in love with a guy at 13.
07:12:28.800 Even if not to the same degree, women still have sexual needs.
07:12:31.420 It's just not real.
07:12:32.840 it is though it is i'm like just because you're asexual and exactly i mean i love affection and
07:12:39.000 it's like intimacy for that is affection but it's like when it's a woman's like i have to get off
07:12:42.740 just like a man i'm like that's just not real it's just not real it's not real to you it's real
07:12:47.440 yeah i like intimacy when it comes to like yes we're gonna cuddle you're just tripping you're
07:12:52.180 actually tripping maybe you've not been with the right man low-key if it's okay she didn't claim
07:12:57.140 her husband at first so we know i know well i'm also in the same position as brian i'm also a
07:13:02.160 major influence let her talk uh if it's month after month after month when it comes to a girl
07:13:08.460 rejecting the guy there's a reason there's an underlying reason that she's rejecting him but
07:13:13.980 then why not break up with him i just don't want to fuck if what could be a health reason i mean
07:13:18.200 it's it's it would be smart to go and ask about the health it would be smart to go and ask about
07:13:23.520 that underlying reason but usually that underlying reason is a reason to break up for most people
07:13:30.960 I say, this is true, but that would still mean that the relationship should break up.
07:13:34.980 Wait, hold on.
07:13:35.380 Exactly.
07:13:35.600 Let me, I do want to get a way in from some other people here.
07:13:39.100 So, okay, you do say it's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
07:13:45.060 I mean.
07:13:45.760 Yeah, I mean, if they said that's the only motivation, yeah, I think it's really wrong.
07:13:49.160 But think about it.
07:13:49.640 Any woman can cook or clean or fold laundry for your husband.
07:13:53.820 You're the only one that really can be intimate with him.
07:13:56.420 So I feel like that is something that is.
07:13:58.020 You're depriving your husband.
07:13:59.340 depriving a man of their men need sex period and you're depriving now unless you have cancer
07:14:07.380 we want it the argument is is it okay for him to leave her is the question and the counter argument
07:14:13.560 is well if he's not meeting her needs emotionally is it okay for her to leave him yes angelica
07:14:19.520 raises a good argument here uh as it relates to women's needs and if the man is not meeting the
07:14:25.940 woman's needs is it reasonable for the uh woman to leave the man to which i'm assuming you would
07:14:31.960 say yes yes so the woman's not meeting her her boyfriend or husband's needs i just feel like
07:14:39.440 it's not in the same level the sexual relationship as emotional wait can i ask you how about this
07:14:43.700 um i let's say in this hypothetical my girlfriend wants to uh yap at me for one hour and then you
07:14:52.420 know what and you know what for like maybe she does that every single day but like I turn her
07:14:59.020 down from being able to yap at me six out of seven days of the so only one day the other days I have
07:15:07.080 a headache my show is on I don't really want to hear you yap I'm tired I mean I would think why
07:15:15.160 is she yapping at you why oh my god it's not like that but yeah I mean it's kind of the default
07:15:21.100 setting so it's self-explanatory i mean but again it's not a good a good example though
07:15:26.600 again i i i do think that you know just dumping your girlfriend or your wife because she's not
07:15:32.180 wanting to have sex with you i feel like that's wrong because as a man you should find out what's
07:15:36.600 going well i do think it is a good example because if and this can vary from relationship to
07:15:41.860 relationship uh if men have a higher desire for sex than the woman does the woman has a higher
07:15:48.500 desire for attention and, uh, communication perhaps than the man does. I think most men
07:15:54.260 would be more men would be okay with the following scenario. Silence. Whereas women are going to be
07:16:02.100 a bit more desirous of verbal communication. Whereas I think most men, like I could honestly
07:16:08.900 not talk to my girlfriend for like days on end and be totally fine with it. Just cruel. I'm
07:16:14.000 I'm actually fine with that, too.
07:16:15.340 Okay, great.
07:16:16.000 You're an outlier.
07:16:16.740 Wonderful.
07:16:17.440 No, no.
07:16:18.240 I mean, most of the time, you know, I prefer silence, too.
07:16:21.940 Okay, fine.
07:16:22.160 There's introverted women who are fine with it.
07:16:24.460 Sure.
07:16:25.040 Okay, well, I do have to move on to the next thing.
07:16:28.020 A woman should not be rejected because of her weight, to which you agree.
07:16:33.600 Allie, right?
07:16:35.160 Allie.
07:16:35.660 That's your name?
07:16:36.340 Allie?
07:16:36.800 Yeah.
07:16:37.140 You agree a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
07:16:39.900 I don't know if anybody else.
07:16:41.480 So why is that?
07:16:42.240 why should a woman not be rejected because of her weight i feel again we're basing you know what
07:16:49.520 let's have her go first um i mean i think all men should be able to have their preference
07:16:57.840 but at the same time i don't think that you should be basing people off of just their weight
07:17:06.160 okay okay so if i have a preference to date a girl that weighs less than me that's okay that's okay
07:17:11.600 And if like, if I don't date women that weigh less than me, or sorry, that don't weigh,
07:17:15.840 uh, yeah.
07:17:16.160 If I don't date women that weigh less than me, that's fine.
07:17:19.940 So then that's me rejecting them.
07:17:21.900 Well, it's whatever.
07:17:23.080 I mean, you're contradicting yourself.
07:17:24.360 It's just whatever you choose.
07:17:25.920 That's all.
07:17:26.620 Okay.
07:17:26.820 Yeah.
07:17:27.000 Like rejecting them, choosing to reject them.
07:17:28.820 But so why is it wrong?
07:17:30.560 Is your argument that if they get fat, you shouldn't dump them over it?
07:17:33.700 No, no, no.
07:17:34.080 It's, it's not like within a relationship, although it could be, um, that muddies the
07:17:40.140 water a little bit but it's more so from the get-go true but she's conceding that she wouldn't
07:17:45.080 do it from the get-go but i'm wondering if by her logic she means if she's gonna get fat if
07:17:48.800 you can dump her there that's where my oh so it's not so okay so just to be clear just for
07:17:53.340 clarification for both of you if a woman if a man from the get-go from the jump doesn't want to
07:17:59.720 uh date a woman to date a woman uh because she's overweight told you're totally fine with that
07:18:07.540 yes and no oh my god you guys are doing a modern daily where it's it's you're you're shifting the
07:18:14.680 goalposts um okay so let's start with the more defense i well the more the the claim that relates
07:18:22.300 more to what's written on the paper a woman should not be rejected because of her weight
07:18:27.720 typically a rejection would imply an initial encounter you break up with somebody for for
07:18:36.240 reasons you're you're not like if you've been dating a girl for six years six years you're not
07:18:41.720 rejecting her you're dumping her so i think using the terminology reject would imply that there is a
07:18:50.000 uh the timeline here is on the short side so okay i see a girl on a dating app
07:18:57.220 and she's ever she say she's perfect like her everything else is perfect uh but she's 300
07:19:06.300 pounds but like her personality with other like our personality would be perfect
07:19:12.820 but i will not date her because she's 300 pounds is that wrong oh no
07:19:17.900 i believe it's wrong you believe it's wrong yes why i just again i have dated
07:19:26.440 fat man too and okay but sorry go ahead continue yeah i just believe that basing everything off
07:19:33.080 looks is wrong just for all the wrong reasons yeah i believe that i mean i i consider myself
07:19:39.340 like she said like i analyze everything about a man would you reject a guy who's four foot 11
07:19:44.540 probably not i mean i have dated short kings too no no hold on hold on i'm gonna hold you to this
07:19:52.020 because this is what you wrote.
07:19:53.700 Minimum height of a man you would date.
07:19:55.540 You're 5'1".
07:19:56.660 You wrote 5'7".
07:19:58.380 We have to hold you to that standard.
07:20:00.680 Lies.
07:20:02.420 Minimum height is 5'7".
07:20:04.860 I mean, I can date less than that,
07:20:06.700 but yeah, I mean, that would be...
07:20:07.420 Would you date a guy who's your height?
07:20:09.760 I have.
07:20:10.660 You have, but is it...
07:20:13.320 Okay, one time I went on a date with a fat chick.
07:20:16.820 It's not my preference.
07:20:18.580 i mean i can say that it could not be my preference but i wouldn't just judge
07:20:25.580 judge someone of the way they're either the look what would actually be wrong with it though
07:20:30.140 i mean that's if that's your preference that's fine i just think it's not right i just think
07:20:34.360 that it's wrong just to judge someone by the way they look but don't you think attraction has to
07:20:38.900 be there in a relationship well yeah exactly and if you if you like most people like i'm not
07:20:42.320 attracted to like an obese person the same way maybe brian wouldn't be attracted to it's a
07:20:46.340 lifestyle too you can't help that attraction so it's not morally wrong to like have you ever
07:20:50.540 attraction to a fat person have you ever rejected a guy at a bar because he just wasn't your type
07:20:55.160 like you're like oh you're not attractive like now no thank you absolutely okay so you're saying
07:21:00.160 that we are morally wrong for saying no we don't want to date a 300 pound woman who's going to have
07:21:05.060 like like a diabetes when she's pregnant and not be able to get birth no that's immoral but like
07:21:10.840 you're like oh yeah i've rejected guys and you know well but i have the bar well to start off i
07:21:15.340 don't go to bars so but yeah i have rejected guys at different based off their looks yeah have you
07:21:20.300 based off looks no based off so if a guy was a stunning knight in shining armor strong jawline
07:21:27.140 look at these eyebrows like just like this if you look just like that you you wouldn't have
07:21:32.020 rejected him you would have said oh yes you would have said definitely no i mean again i don't base
07:21:36.800 myself when i date i don't i don't actually look i don't if they look good okay fine but i mean i'm
07:21:42.980 still gonna so it doesn't matter at all it doesn't matter at all physical attraction is a very
07:21:47.220 important aspect it is it i feel like it is but um again not for me but you got to think about
07:21:53.440 everyone but oh yeah even even if they're asking me for me it's not so i think this is a no offense
07:21:58.660 i think you're bullshitting i think you're lying but even if we were to grant that you care nothing
07:22:03.540 whatsoever about looks and physical appearance your own uh preference would not map on to like
07:22:11.460 the vast majority of other people and it wouldn't mean that they're wrong for like yeah okay you
07:22:17.540 um like for example i like big labia i don't think it's wrong for a guy to have a genitalia
07:22:23.280 preference to like prefer an innie or whatever no i mean i mean it's not wrong i just you know
07:22:29.680 like i said you that's a question towards me if it's wrong for me it's wrong for me but not for
07:22:34.320 everybody else i guess no but the question the statement is not do you from is it wrong for you
07:22:42.240 it's like a general statement for me i feel like for example the question for example uh on the
07:22:48.120 questionnaire question uh or statement 24 women are the primary victims of war not men have you
07:22:53.740 ever been the victim of war no not you okay but so i'm asking you like to think in a more general
07:23:01.700 sense not just strictly about your own okay if we're talking about like generalize it maybe yeah
07:23:09.120 maybe it's not wrong for a man to have their own preferences i think she's saying it's fine for
07:23:12.940 everyone else it just feels wrong okay so then the less defensible position i don't even think
07:23:17.240 it's wrong though in a relationship for a man or a woman i don't have a double standard to break up
07:23:23.080 with their significant other uh if they like gain 200 pounds i don't think that would be wrong
07:23:28.440 even in a relationship now perhaps you can give a bit of leeway perhaps they can correct it but i
07:23:36.780 don't think it would actually be wrong for me it's a health thing in a lifestyle i'm very active i
07:23:41.980 like to hike i like to go on my bike i like to do all the things like the talk i can't do
07:23:46.060 i've been sitting here go ahead go ahead continue with your point go ahead go ahead
07:23:50.480 just disregard go ahead okay so anyways i can't do that with someone who's 300 pounds i can't
07:23:55.760 maintain this lifestyle i'm also granola and i feel like if you don't care about yourself why am
07:24:00.140 i supposed to care about yourself and who wants to date a lazy person yeah if you're extremely
07:24:03.480 overweight that says that you don't care about yourself or you're lazy or you don't have ambitions
07:24:07.520 and goals yeah and i got huge this last pregnancy i gained over 100 pounds and i lost it so and i
07:24:13.560 because i know that's not my lifestyle that's not who i am as a person i just had a baby late in
07:24:18.820 life but this is my lifestyle and this is what so if you if your wife or your girlfriend or whatever
07:24:23.460 has a baby like obviously some little lean weight because it's you get fat sometimes well no okay so
07:24:28.100 yeah if your your girlfriend is pregnant yeah of course she's going to put on some weight uh but
07:24:33.860 i think uh let's say for example absent a pregnancy uh your girlfriend puts on 200 pounds i i that's
07:24:41.420 like a massive material change to yeah like your level of attractiveness physical attraction to
07:24:47.260 her um now look the man could also choose to stay with her because he loves her that would be fine
07:24:52.480 too but i don't think i would i think it'd be hard pressed to actually say that it's wrong for a man
07:24:58.800 to break up with his girlfriend because he's no longer attracted to her women break up with men
07:25:05.380 all the time for a myriad of they fall out of love they're no longer attracted to the guy whatever it
07:25:09.980 might be the guy changes in one way or the other people break up i don't think it's wrong to do so
07:25:15.600 uh any pushback on that from anybody i guess not okay uh somebody oops hold on these guys in the
07:25:23.680 comments it's like actually insane they keep calling you team i'm here i'm here and you're
07:25:28.300 not like that just says enough you're in your bed doom scrolling like come on it does says enough
07:25:33.340 it does say enough roasted it's funny when the conservative man i'm here they're jealous though
07:25:38.620 it's just it's just that one person it makes me laugh for how they're doing scrolling in their
07:25:43.000 bad staying up way too late they're all in bed and we're here uh frankie you write women are
07:25:48.580 oppressed in the usa why is that or you agree with the statements anyways
07:25:52.240 i would agree with it because the propaganda that controls women and that we have to live by
07:26:04.560 is quite oppressive like yeah like what like for instance like social media i feel like we're just
07:26:12.920 so tied to social media in a certain way and it's just kind of like we're kind of groomed into well
07:26:18.280 I want to just say social media there's a lot of things that from the beginning of when we're born
07:26:22.080 we're just kind of groomed into that we have to do for instance uh okay for instance like you saying
07:26:29.440 that if um you invite a woman over and you sleep with her and she does your laundry like why is it
07:26:35.880 that has to be laundry like would you expect a man to do something like that for you I'm not gay so
07:26:40.620 So, no, but I'm just saying, like, it's just, like, the types of things that you would think for a woman to do something for you that's kind.
07:26:46.980 You wouldn't expect a man to do something like that.
07:26:48.700 But women expect men to do things for them.
07:26:51.660 Well, not only that, but hearkening back to the original point I made before, when it comes to social media, they're injecting insecurities in you so that way you could wear a ton of makeup.
07:26:58.580 Go on to OnlyFans now because they market it as, like, just a social media influencer program.
07:27:03.220 It's like if we're being degraded, it's by the things that men are warning us against.
07:27:07.720 it's not by our own
07:27:09.260 it's not because they're pushing something onto us
07:27:11.200 it's because they're trying to keep us away from it
07:27:12.980 I'm not going to specify the group
07:27:16.020 I'm going to pull a Kanye
07:27:17.120 I'm not going to say which group of men
07:27:19.000 but I also think that America
07:27:21.700 hold on we have a TTS
07:27:24.000 Daddy Nevin donated $200
07:27:26.160 thank you Nevin
07:27:27.200 Tamu Kirk is getting hella closeted gay allegations
07:27:30.280 in the chat
07:27:31.120 care to respond
07:27:32.500 care to elaborate
07:27:34.020 care to caress a rainbow
07:27:36.220 That said dick
07:27:39.240 This is ridiculous
07:27:40.380 Notice how it says allegations
07:27:43.360 And it doesn't say facts
07:27:45.780 It says allegations
07:27:47.120 It's an allegation not a fact
07:27:48.440 That's kind of a weak comeback
07:27:49.400 Pride month is coming up soon
07:27:51.880 Not to mention being a knockoff
07:27:54.980 Of a great man does that not make you a good man
07:27:57.340 They said Timu
07:27:58.880 Desert Jorge
07:28:00.720 Please have Riley back
07:28:01.960 On the pod again
07:28:03.940 I haven't laughed this hard in ages
07:28:05.480 It's very basic and consistent.
07:28:07.000 All right.
07:28:07.420 So it seems like you didn't bring enough liberals on.
07:28:11.580 This would be so much better if there's like a bunch of liberals.
07:28:13.440 I think Americans tend to use the word oppressed way too much, especially those who don't travel.
07:28:18.940 If you actually leave your bubble, you can see that we are not oppressed, not even the slightest.
07:28:24.140 And traveling and being well-traveled.
07:28:25.800 That's why being well-traveled is important.
07:28:27.660 That's why I took my son to the U.K. for his high school graduation last year.
07:28:31.860 The first thing he said when he got off the airplane was he looked around.
07:28:34.660 Mom, I've never been so happy to be an American
07:28:37.200 than I am right now.
07:28:38.740 Because it gives you appreciation.
07:28:39.800 You said that after the UK?
07:28:41.420 We're in the UK, did you take it?
07:28:43.760 But you can't chill.
07:28:45.640 It looks like Iraq.
07:28:47.320 I was terrified.
07:28:49.680 I'm British, so I'm just curious about this.
07:28:50.720 When was the last time I was there?
07:28:53.240 December.
07:28:53.680 It looks like Iraq.
07:28:58.740 It really did.
07:28:59.420 The question also is,
07:29:00.540 what affluent parts of the UK are you visiting
07:29:02.360 versus what accessible, affordable parts
07:29:04.520 I've been all around the U.K.
07:29:05.680 I've been all around the U.K.
07:29:07.000 But I'm just saying, we looked around.
07:29:08.620 I mean, there's certainly poor parts of London, but there's also poor parts of America.
07:29:12.540 No, London's entirely lost.
07:29:14.180 It's completely, completely lost.
07:29:16.280 Hold on, go into my Discord, go into the research infographics tab.
07:29:19.900 I recently posted something, or wait, fuck, did I post it?
07:29:23.680 Ah, fuck.
07:29:25.040 The U.K. is still like a first world country.
07:29:26.560 They're arresting people for memes that they post online.
07:29:29.900 That's oppression.
07:29:30.700 We don't do that here.
07:29:31.660 downtown london used to be one of the nicest areas in the entire world and now it's a shit
07:29:35.800 show with the muslims over there it's amazing how liberal will embrace islam without recognizing
07:29:42.960 how oppressive it is to win i know yes and they even do um never mind never mind removal of the
07:29:51.220 clitoris in some countries riley would love that two hundred dollars wait he sent it
07:29:59.360 Temu Kirk is getting heliposited gay facts thrown his way.
07:30:03.540 Care to respond?
07:30:04.680 You sent it?
07:30:05.160 Care to elaborate?
07:30:06.160 You sent it twice?
07:30:06.760 Care to take Brian on a date and do his laundry?
07:30:10.040 Oh, let's see.
07:30:10.680 Okay, Daddy Nevin.
07:30:12.200 Wait, you just said Daddy Nevin.
07:30:14.080 Okay, whatever.
07:30:15.720 I can say the words.
07:30:17.660 Well, hold on.
07:30:18.160 It cut out.
07:30:19.200 It cut out.
07:30:19.900 Hey, Nevin, it cut out.
07:30:21.080 We need you to say the message again.
07:30:22.680 It just cut out.
07:30:23.340 I didn't get enough time to read the rest.
07:30:25.060 I want to read the user again.
07:30:26.620 Care to elaborate?
07:30:27.740 Care to explain?
07:30:29.360 it's funny he wants you uh okay um a few more here from the questionnaire showing up really
07:30:36.100 quick uh women are the primary victims of war not men you didn't circle it but you said both
07:30:40.580 are affected in different ways well yeah we've been over this in another episode like men die
07:30:44.180 more often death is the worst thing you can go through but i would also say women experience
07:30:47.880 certain types of trauma during war that men don't experience of course of course women do experience
07:30:52.820 bad things in war but certain bad things that men don't so is it disproportionately i'm still
07:30:58.560 want to say it's equal which is why i didn't circle it because men do fight more and die
07:31:01.840 wait wait are we talking about because a lot of civilians die in war too and maybe that's
07:31:06.960 part of the metric that what we're missing here because a lot of women and children
07:31:10.960 are murdered okay for no reason they go out into the streets and i know this because i was in the
07:31:17.480 marine corps i told you those marines used to come to our unit and like because they were out
07:31:21.000 they were on their way out the door and one of the stories they told us is that they were instructed
07:31:26.080 during the Battle of Fallujah
07:31:27.660 to go out and kill everyone.
07:31:30.480 Women and children just literally
07:31:32.180 go out, no rameries, and murder
07:31:34.400 everyone. They're just goyim.
07:31:36.480 What are we talking about
07:31:38.180 when we say, do men die more or do women die? Are we talking
07:31:40.140 about civilians? Are we talking about military? We're talking
07:31:42.000 in totality.
07:31:43.980 I don't know, because we're not over there.
07:31:45.800 I do know that they were instructed to
07:31:47.980 kill everyone. I think statistically
07:31:50.120 more men do die. So more men
07:31:52.060 die in war.
07:31:53.960 The majority of soldiers
07:31:55.360 are men uh especially those that are seeing combat are men so while women whether they're
07:32:04.760 soldiers or civilians while there are women who are going to have uh negative outcomes during
07:32:10.600 wartime uh there's more men who face negative outcomes than do women i do want to say i feel
07:32:19.340 okay like maybe this is controversial but i feel like innocent civilians dying during war
07:32:23.080 is a worse scenario than um soldiers dying during war right i think we can agree with that yeah even
07:32:28.300 granting that you would still assume like chill the okay so of the children who died out the
07:32:33.400 gender split would be equal there if the civilian split is equal then yeah well i don't know if like
07:32:38.860 the it depends on the conflict um so in like the in large scale wars like world war ii world war
07:32:48.080 one where like vast swaths of the eligible male soldiers were uh were a lot of them were soldiers
07:32:55.940 then a higher proportion then yes a higher proportion of uh yeah we're not responding
07:33:01.540 to this okay a higher proportion of uh the civilian population adult civilian population
07:33:07.560 will be female but even then it's like okay so like how many women how about this and more
07:33:14.600 If female civilians died, then in that case, women are affected worse in that conflict.
07:33:17.260 And then it would be like, okay, it is the case if, like, let's say, if it is your country that is being bombed, then the civilian women are facing issues there.
07:33:28.700 But take the United States, for example. There's no way in hell during World War II or World War I that you could ever say that, at least for Americans, that women, it's ever comparable.
07:33:44.380 It could ever be comparable between women and men who are Americans because aside from Pearl Harbor, there wasn't an invasion of the United States.
07:33:56.440 There wasn't bombing campaigns of American cities.
07:34:00.500 Women were not in the trenches during World War I, American women.
07:34:05.180 World War II, women were not on the battlefield fighting the Nazis.
07:34:09.700 Right.
07:34:10.220 So when it comes to who's fighting the war, men are affected worse than men or killed more.
07:34:14.080 that's why i didn't circle that right right well that's the thing is that i i have that as my
07:34:18.720 biggest problem it's like there's certain issues like pregnancy that affect women way more there's
07:34:22.680 certain issues like war that affect men way more at the end of the day you can't split them apart
07:34:26.180 because even though it affects others more if one sex is affected the other one's going to be
07:34:30.920 affected negatively too it's like you can't argue like oh who's exclusive i will say though a woman
07:34:36.140 getting married a woman getting raped during war affects her more than it affects the man around
07:34:41.180 her say like her husband's already dead she goes through that her daughter goes through that like
07:34:45.540 that's suddenly something that's affecting the woman in this scenario not the man it demoralizes
07:34:49.300 the men around her too that's the thing she's the primary person around her at that point
07:34:52.740 the men her platoon the men maybe her husband's dead already though that's not her husband maybe
07:34:57.340 she's a single mother it's not the her husband it's the men in the platoon are demoralized that
07:35:01.540 one of their own was so violated this way and was impregnated by the enemy they might be demoralized
07:35:05.980 but it still affected her worse yes but what i'm saying is that the men are also she's the primary
07:35:09.940 victim of that. Everyone is going to have negative
07:35:11.980 consequences on the sexes. You can't divide it
07:35:14.060 so evenly. The same goes for a
07:35:15.500 male soldier getting killed. That demoralizes the
07:35:17.920 woman at home, too. Yes, of course. I don't think
07:35:19.920 you guys know what goes on behind closed
07:35:21.940 doors in war. I had my friends
07:35:23.960 watching young Iraqi
07:35:26.120 girls, girls
07:35:27.600 get raped by Iraqi
07:35:30.140 soldiers that are, they were
07:35:32.000 the good guys. Nobody's denying that
07:35:33.740 SA and rape happens during wartime.
07:35:35.980 However, if we're doing a comparative
07:35:37.720 analysis between the amount of
07:35:39.540 uh male civilian deaths and male military casualties uh look rape is fucking terrible
07:35:46.020 but my question to you would then be how many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape
07:35:51.800 i am against all the wars that are going answer the question how many men are you willing to let
07:35:57.880 die to prevent one rape death is worse so zero answer the question though i just did i'm not
07:36:06.740 willing to let anyone die. I would also say
07:36:08.800 that. Okay, so then we've done, we've made
07:36:10.700 a determination that death, although rape
07:36:12.820 is terrible, death is conceivably
07:36:14.780 worse than rape. And if
07:36:16.720 more men die, then there are women who are
07:36:18.720 raped, then just on that metric alone, even
07:36:20.700 though it's a bit blunt and
07:36:22.900 an oversimplification,
07:36:25.100 men would thus be the primary
07:36:26.960 victims of war, given the higher
07:36:28.760 number of male deaths as compared to female
07:36:30.760 rapes. But that's the thing, is that the same people sending
07:36:32.720 men to war, the same ones turning women into
07:36:34.760 like whores, basically. It's
07:36:36.740 It's contrived.
07:36:37.620 Bro, what do you, what?
07:36:39.160 Literally, I don't know how far to go with this.
07:36:41.060 You already know what I'm talking about.
07:36:42.740 I'm like, when it comes to the whole war issue,
07:36:44.820 women are not the ones wanting men to go to war.
07:36:46.540 The only people who benefit are multinational corporations
07:36:48.500 that want land.
07:36:49.380 That's why they burned Argentina to get that land.
07:36:51.300 That's why they're getting the Ukrainian-Russian war right now.
07:36:53.940 The Russians and the Ukrainians
07:36:55.080 would have not naturally gone to war.
07:36:56.900 We would have never invaded Iran.
07:36:58.560 Military-industrial complex.
07:36:59.740 Yeah, exactly.
07:37:00.160 It's like we literally, like, women do not want their men,
07:37:02.860 nor do men want to go to these contrived wars
07:37:04.800 that literally do not benefit the nation.
07:37:06.180 I mean, you're saying the Ukrainian war is because there were, like, Russian business interests?
07:37:12.260 I wouldn't say Russian.
07:37:13.440 No, it's not Russian business interests.
07:37:15.680 It's not Russian.
07:37:16.440 Wait, wait, wait.
07:37:16.880 You think, so...
07:37:17.840 It's like Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
07:37:19.980 I can't pronounce his last name.
07:37:22.000 Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
07:37:23.100 Yeah, it is hard.
07:37:23.820 I know.
07:37:24.340 You tried getting me.
07:37:25.500 Yeah, that's hard.
07:37:26.100 You can't do it.
07:37:27.060 Yeah, I can't do it either.
07:37:29.960 Solzhenitsyn.
07:37:30.320 Yeah, I can't even pronounce it.
07:37:32.420 Hold on.
07:37:33.960 It's Russian...
07:37:35.520 No, it's not Russian.
07:37:37.340 So Russia invades Ukraine.
07:37:39.240 That's why Russia's been saying we don't want this war.
07:37:42.940 Russia invades Ukraine.
07:37:44.780 No, I don't think that's what happened.
07:37:46.220 NATO ended up saying, well, Ukraine can be part of NATO.
07:37:48.780 The southern part of Ukraine said we don't want to be part of NATO.
07:37:51.280 That's why they ended up bombing the Donbass.
07:37:53.040 And then they ended up pushing forth this war, which then encroached upon the whole arms deal.
07:37:57.500 I mean, NATO was supposed to be an anti-Russian, like, whole political organization.
07:38:01.660 Okay, so yes.
07:38:02.140 So, okay, you're saying that there was provocation towards Russia.
07:38:04.920 but russia did initiate the land invasion of ukraine but who was the mastermind behind this
07:38:09.880 whole orchestration ukraine's not at fault and neither is russian ukrainians have been dying
07:38:13.840 it's a much bigger plan at foot the same people who orchestrated nato and the u.n and the world
07:38:19.540 economic forum are the ones pushing these wars america why america pushes it's not america
07:38:25.460 america's also a puppet it's like why are men and women fighting when it's like there's a bigger
07:38:29.440 enemy above us putting us together basically i don't know who this enemy is but anyways
07:38:37.100 what the fuck i'm like why exactly are we fighting wars is the issue like what merit
07:38:45.060 what resources what invasion did ukraine do to us why are you wondering so is this what's your
07:38:50.280 conspiracy what's your that's not a conspiracy it's literally like factually supported so is it
07:38:55.100 I'm not allowed to say it, and I'm not going to say it.
07:38:57.120 Are you saying it's elites?
07:38:59.280 Yes.
07:38:59.600 Let's say the satanic, pedophilic elites who drink baby's blood are the ones that are doing this.
07:39:03.740 So just to be clear, all warfare throughout human history has been – it hasn't been for, like, various geopolitical reasons or, like, land disputes.
07:39:12.060 Especially during the 20th century, no.
07:39:13.980 I think it's all been a bank-promoted conspiracy to basically promote the central bank.
07:39:16.760 Okay, so, like, if we go back to the 1500s when France and England were warring with each other.
07:39:23.220 No, that was a natural one.
07:39:24.120 It was the satanic...
07:39:25.660 No, she did say the 20th century.
07:39:27.160 Okay, so you're saying it's a modern...
07:39:29.060 Yes.
07:39:29.880 Okay, but hold on, hold on,
07:39:31.480 but let me test the logic here a little bit.
07:39:33.520 So what were the justifications for wars previously?
07:39:38.740 What you said, geographic way of grab all the best.
07:39:41.140 Then thus, is it...
07:39:42.820 Look, and I'll know the validity of your claims.
07:39:45.780 Is it possible that modern day military conflicts
07:39:48.960 could be due to the same historical reasons for war?
07:39:53.120 No.
07:39:53.280 well not for our involvement how are we expanding into the middle east we're not we're not even
07:39:57.020 promoting christian values over there even though we're supposedly a christian nation as shana ended
07:40:01.060 up trying to allude to it's like we have like literally no business in anyone else's country
07:40:05.220 not venezuela although it is nice because it is look i don't think the u.s should be involved in
07:40:09.840 in any of this shit but um but then why are we going to war when it doesn't benefit anyone like
07:40:14.240 it's literally a nonsense war yeah it's like why are we funding like sure russia would want the
07:40:20.680 land grab of ukraine because you know most of russia i don't think it's just land grab for
07:40:24.620 for russia but if that's the case let russia do what russia's gonna do i don't care it's way over
07:40:28.820 there we should put our resources in the western hemisphere by the way this is not my wheelhouse
07:40:33.680 the geopolitical war stuff so i mean i i'm not sure i could give particularly knowledgeable
07:40:38.480 answers on this i mean my understanding obviously the united states is uh is aligned with with the
07:40:45.160 west it's aligned with nato it's aligned with europe and and so uh you know i mean we have
07:40:52.140 historical conflict with uh russia especially when there's the ussr my understanding though
07:40:57.860 is that there was this push for ukraine to get involved with uh nato right is that correct
07:41:04.280 and uh from putin's perspective he's like okay this is creating like an untenable position for us
07:41:12.120 to basically like have nato uh in our front yard basically that's my understanding of it
07:41:18.460 maybe that's like super simplistic but anyways let's i'll move it on back to dating um let's see
07:41:25.580 uh hold on we have to do this i want to wait until she's back let's do this though uh okay
07:41:31.740 men should provide men should be shovel-wrest husband should be willing to die protecting
07:41:35.820 uh you will keep your last name i think i don't know what i'm gonna do well you did say you
07:41:42.960 circled i will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage my hyphenate might keep my last name
07:41:47.480 husband should protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die but you won't
07:41:53.500 take his last name i'm seeing if anybody else can i can i say something about that when it comes to
07:41:58.880 these things of like paying for dates being chivalrous i don't i don't insert shoulds and
07:42:02.720 expectations what i think though is like okay if i have options of different men maybe this one's
07:42:08.120 not willing to pay there's one who is willing to pay and who is willing to act shivers why would
07:42:11.560 i just not choose the better one that's my whole thing it's just makes it better what you said
07:42:15.260 about the laundry because it's nice it benefits options okay oh yeah sure um okay uh joy men
07:42:22.020 should pay on first dates men should provide protect husband should be willing to die protecting
07:42:26.560 you, you're going to keep your last name or hyphenate marriage. Why is that? Um, not keep
07:42:32.300 it, but hyphenate it due to me being the only girl. So I would, does he have to hyphenate his
07:42:38.160 last name? No, I meant. And what about the kids? Do they get his last name or do they hyphenate?
07:42:43.640 No, they get his. Okay. That's somewhat better. Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh,
07:42:50.540 Anna men should pay on first dates. Men should provide protect men should be chivalrous.
07:42:54.520 husband should be willing to die protecting you. You will keep your last name or hyphenate in
07:42:59.420 marriage. Why is that? I did change it when I was married, but this time my youngest has my last
07:43:04.860 name. He's the one to carry on my family's last name. Like that's it. The buck stops here. So I
07:43:09.240 kind of want to keep it for him. But if he chooses to change his last name to his father's, that's
07:43:13.480 his decision. And then maybe I would reconsider changing my last name. So you've done it
07:43:17.080 previously, but now you kind of don't want to do that. All right. Most of you, I think almost all
07:43:23.340 of you husbands should be willing to die protecting you i think everyone answered that uh everyone
07:43:29.820 me personally this is probably the take that gets everyone pissed off including the conservatives
07:43:35.280 i uh you know what
07:43:38.080 and i somewhat do this to rage bait a little bit but fuck it why not
07:43:44.000 i don't think the the man should sacrifice his life for the woman
07:43:48.140 makes sense as an atheist it's like your life is first second and third
07:43:52.580 oh you you want your husband to die for you if it comes to that to that instance yes
07:43:59.020 see that's crazy because i feel like asking someone to fucking die for you is a bigger ask
07:44:05.440 than well but i mean but that's me just i want to bow i want her to fold my laundry she should
07:44:10.920 be a little submissive that's easy compared to dying yeah but i mean we're talking something
07:44:15.700 really hypothetically but if that comes to that instance yes i would my and my husband has told
07:44:20.620 me you know he's like i will die for you like it's something if you were 300 pounds would you
07:44:26.560 lose the weight for him that's beautiful that he loves her that much no i mean i don't think
07:44:30.340 that's not a loser though i feel like that's an l for him no that's a high value for me he's not a
07:44:35.520 loser but it's an l that he said for me that's a high value man again it's different cultures i
07:44:41.260 i think that's a high value woman that she would die for me well you see i mean she dies for me
07:44:49.100 So I keep going.
07:44:50.860 I mean, again, I think if it comes to that instance, you know, that we have to choose between both of us.
07:44:56.400 I mean, I probably also will say, yeah, I can die for my husband, you know, if it comes to that instance.
07:45:01.300 Because, again, this is a 50-50.
07:45:04.580 But, I mean, yeah.
07:45:06.220 In marriage, you died for each other.
07:45:08.160 Or you died to each other in this realm, basically saying, I'm not going to have my ego anymore.
07:45:13.180 I'm going to be everything that you need to be.
07:45:14.300 Yeah, that's not what we're talking about, though.
07:45:15.620 Yeah, but then even more so in the physical realm, women do die for their husbands in several contexts.
07:45:22.460 If a man doesn't want to protect me and lay his life down, I don't want to be with him.
07:45:25.340 Not really childbirth, but it's just like in general, it's just, there was that, well, it's going to be anecdotal,
07:45:29.060 but there was that one case with George Harrison and his wife where she ended up lunging on the man that was trying to kill him.
07:45:33.400 She bashed him in the head with a lamp and he was like already stabbed on the floor 27 times.
07:45:37.600 Did he die?
07:45:38.540 No, but he almost did and it actually contributed to his death.
07:45:41.620 Her jumping on him?
07:45:42.600 No, the guy who broke into his house stabbed him 27 times, and she attacked him.
07:45:47.380 She lunged on him with the lamp and then basically knocked him out.
07:45:51.320 But he was already on the ground.
07:45:53.080 So there's plenty of cases where women are basically being that way.
07:45:56.900 In fact, I would say that that's average.
07:45:59.440 Yeah, well, there's a couple differences here.
07:46:00.860 First off, so there's an expectation on men to be willing to, even if I grant that it's really unlikely that for most relationships or marriages,
07:46:10.860 that there's ever going to be some sort of crazy scenario where one or the other person has to die
07:46:16.180 or the man has to be willing to sacrifice himself, a man's unwillingness to do so,
07:46:20.940 like a man who's a coward, a man who wouldn't be willing to sacrifice himself,
07:46:25.960 will be really harshly and negatively assessed by women to the point that I think a lot of women,
07:46:31.700 if they were aware of this, like most men are probably not going to disclose this,
07:46:36.620 even if it's the case, uh, it's a major turnoff for most women. Oh, he's a coward. He's a coward.
07:46:43.300 No, I don't want to date a coward. Like massive ick for women. If the guy's a bitch or a pussy
07:46:49.100 or whatever, huge, huge. Right. So even, and sometimes women will say, well, I'd be willing
07:46:55.000 to die for him. It's different though, because there isn't a, there isn't a social expectation
07:46:59.740 on you. There isn't a relationship, relational expectation on women to do this. And even if
07:47:05.100 the woman was like uh oh my god if if there was a home intruder i'd just like run and like hide
07:47:10.700 under the bed like the man wouldn't lose attraction for the woman doing that um it wouldn't he wouldn't
07:47:17.140 lose attraction for whereas like a man said that oh i'm just gonna hide under the bed and hope they
07:47:22.560 don't find us like a woman's gonna have a massive ick it's probably the end of the relationship
07:47:27.760 absolutely and like for example if uh you're out with your boyfriend and he loses in a fight or
07:47:32.800 something very hype it's not like the circumstances are going to matter in this um a woman's like
07:47:40.240 going to lose attraction for a guy if she sees him get sparked up in the street fight she's going
07:47:44.760 to lose she she sees him doing the fencing position he's fucking knocked out she's that
07:47:51.000 relationship might as well be not necessarily let's just say there's a there's a uh a time
07:47:55.940 limit on that relationship now if a woman's seen her boyfriend get knocked out it's over within
07:48:00.700 six months not necessarily because let's just say if he's not in all instances but go ahead
07:48:04.360 if he's fighting someone let's just say because this other man disrespected me in his fighting
07:48:09.160 this other man let's just say this other man knocks him out yeah i would consider still my
07:48:13.400 man that he's a really strong man even though because he's defending me yeah you know if a man
07:48:18.760 gets knocked out typically that'll also prompt in some women a nurturing complex where they want to
07:48:23.140 take care of the man who's down and out absolutely they won't like the man who's aggressive he was
07:48:27.120 trying to protect me or taking care of me so i mean i disagree totally with what you said because
07:48:32.000 for me it will actually it will still be in that get brain damage for your girlfriend um brian
07:48:38.060 would you say you met the woman of your dreams you have seven kids you're all sleeping in a house
07:48:42.440 there's an armed robbery that comes on you grab your gun would you go out there and and take on
07:48:46.540 those people so the the threat is directed at me your family and my children so yes my family in
07:48:53.200 totality so you would lay your life down uh well so i i would but i mean if i was living alone in
07:48:59.880 the house i would also take steps to uh protect myself so it's like i would do it anyways but um
07:49:08.160 i guess this is more so of a hypothetical scenario maybe i should paint it differently like uh like
07:49:14.520 i don't know if somebody has to take the bullet or whatever you got the girl in the guest bedroom
07:49:18.400 because it is a massive like if a guy is shivering under a bed while there's an arm
07:49:23.400 robbering or letting me like deal with it that's a nick like you know right it's a nick but it's
07:49:27.320 like so i guess ultimately though um how about this though in a scenario where um somebody has
07:49:33.940 to die somebody has to die what the fuck dollar maxing that's funny uh so how about this uh there
07:49:43.600 is a boat. You're on a boat with your wife and there's only one life preserver. And in the
07:49:49.760 scenario, the life preserver is necessary to survive. There is no loopholes. You can't hang
07:49:58.100 on to her. You can't swim indefinitely. Whoever gets the life preserver lives. Whoever doesn't
07:50:05.540 get it dies. No loopholes. Who should get the life preserver? So you're on a boat with just
07:50:11.180 your wife the woman the woman who should get the life preserver the woman sorry i kind of zoned out
07:50:17.340 for a second is there any children involved in this scenario no just man and a woman but you're
07:50:21.900 married or boyfriend i think the man probably has a higher chance of being able to like swim in the
07:50:25.780 water and survive it's granted that in the hypothetical only one person can survive there
07:50:31.240 are no loopholes to well he'll just he'll just tread water for three hours no whoever has a
07:50:37.240 life preserver there's only one only one person can survive who gets the life preserver am i in
07:50:43.100 this relationship yes it's you and your boyfriend in a boat i'll like okay the same way i said i
07:50:49.240 would want my man to like lay down his life for me i'd be willing to do it for him so i would be
07:50:53.600 willing to give it to him okay so you would do it in that scenario okay you said the man should do
07:50:58.400 it i'd give it you'd give it to the man okay the woman should take the preserver okay the woman
07:51:06.320 to take are we talking about titanic yeah i'm i'm thinking i'm like they did in the titanic
07:51:10.680 sort of okay and i have to choose between me and my partner yeah he can have it okay what about you
07:51:19.300 yeah if it's between me and my partner it'd be easy for me i think for me to say you can take
07:51:23.940 oh sorry you can take it he can take it okay but if he actually took it would you be like
07:51:29.080 Yeah, I'd be like, dang, that's kind of messed up.
07:51:32.340 For real?
07:51:34.120 Okay, what about you?
07:51:35.840 The man.
07:51:36.840 Okay, what about you?
07:51:38.200 The woman.
07:51:38.880 Just like it would be an ick if a guy is shivering under a bed when an armed robbery comes in.
07:51:42.760 Go ahead, Angelica, what about you?
07:51:44.080 I'm too codependent.
07:51:45.240 I would have to die with him or he takes it.
07:51:46.920 I can't do it.
07:51:47.540 There's no loopholes.
07:51:48.600 I'm not saying.
07:51:49.140 I would die.
07:51:49.860 I would give it to him.
07:51:50.380 Okay.
07:51:51.200 The woman should take it.
07:51:52.440 The woman should take it?
07:51:53.260 But I wanted to ask you, so you disagree, right?
07:51:56.780 Wait, oh, the woman should take the life.
07:51:58.420 Yeah, yeah, that you wouldn't die for your wife, right?
07:52:00.960 No.
07:52:01.900 Would you die for your daughter?
07:52:03.780 Oh, heartbeat.
07:52:05.540 Yeah.
07:52:08.140 Let me weigh the pros and cons.
07:52:09.380 The fact you have to debate this is crazy.
07:52:11.080 So you're willing to impregnate a woman seven times.
07:52:14.220 I think everyone should be willing to die for her.
07:52:17.360 Throw her out on a boat.
07:52:19.100 I mean, what in such a...
07:52:19.880 Okay, so in a situation where it's my daughter...
07:52:22.380 Three-year-old daughter.
07:52:24.020 Look, she's so cute.
07:52:24.660 That's pretty fucked up.
07:52:25.840 You cannot go on that life.
07:52:28.140 But who would know in the middle of the ocean?
07:52:31.680 Because I have kids.
07:52:32.800 So hold on.
07:52:35.420 When you become a parent.
07:52:36.880 I would do anything for my children.
07:52:40.360 Almost anything.
07:52:41.760 Not die though.
07:52:43.200 I would do anything.
07:52:46.160 Drowning kind of sucks.
07:52:48.280 So you want the woman who you've been pregnant seven times to get off the boat.
07:52:52.780 Hold on.
07:52:54.380 This does not look good.
07:52:55.840 Yeah, no one's going to be DMing you 10 times a day, Brian.
07:52:59.880 Maybe I'm rage baiting.
07:53:01.160 RIP your future daughter.
07:53:03.260 Give me seven kids.
07:53:04.700 Get out of this boat right now.
07:53:06.340 No one would know.
07:53:07.300 But if it's all of your kids, then yes.
07:53:09.340 Because you said you would go out and attack the robber inside of your house.
07:53:14.120 Yeah, of course.
07:53:14.680 It's not like I would just kind of like, I would take as many steps as I could to like,
07:53:18.440 to protect to a point.
07:53:20.600 You would like out aim.
07:53:21.660 That's your man.
07:53:22.520 That's a duty as a man.
07:53:23.540 Sorry.
07:53:23.820 It is.
07:53:24.740 You are stronger than us.
07:53:25.840 physically mentally just wait how about this really quick how about uh really quick but i i
07:53:31.120 will give some explanation now it's not you and your boyfriend on a boat it's another couple and
07:53:37.640 you somehow you can't do anything to intervene you're not able to help them but uh you witness
07:53:43.300 you're witnessing it who would you judge more harshly assuming like uh assuming they're deciding
07:53:51.320 this i don't know if they're deciding it democratically obviously the man through force
07:53:54.660 could like fucking take the life preserver and be like fuck you um but let's say the
07:54:01.600 who would you judge more harshly for picking themselves to survive the man or the woman
07:54:07.520 the man the man obviously okay i need to see like who would be able to take better care of the kids
07:54:13.120 there's no kids who would you judge more harshly for choosing to pick i would say the man i would
07:54:21.060 say the man because the fact that he's physically stronger adds like an undercurrent to that like
07:54:25.240 but you know both of them are one of them dies no matter what so just because he's stronger
07:54:30.080 doesn't mean he's like can swim long like he's dead the stronger person choosing themselves
07:54:34.780 over the weaker person just has a worse look it just has a worse yeah it's giving beta
07:54:39.660 roll away from the one that gave you man children you judge the man harsher i just a man judge the
07:54:50.440 man harsher the man the man harsher the man the man titanic really made me upset
07:54:55.500 man you judge it harsher the man i actually don't know i don't know probably the man i don't know
07:55:03.680 riley what about you who do you judge harsher the boy because that's not a man okay thank you for
07:55:08.800 that now you you mentioned it's beta beta i'm just thinking about like some guy shivering or
07:55:16.240 shivering away in a boat while you're just like leaving your woman up like just like
07:55:19.560 get out of here and you want me to look i don't want to fucking drown hello i like to live
07:55:24.580 give you seven kids bow to you and you're gonna roll away in a boat yeah you never ask the answer
07:55:30.820 the question i'll get to it hold on the dms are gonna stop okay so you say it's beta for the man
07:55:37.060 to do this i actually think by the way i think the alpha beta thing's fucking lame any guy who
07:55:41.900 calls himself alpha it's super lame it's cringe never call yourself an alpha male that's super
07:55:46.880 lame but using that that metric alpha beta beta male alpha male i actually think it's more alpha
07:55:55.620 for the man to survive and i'll tell you why genghis khan the mongolian conqueror who by the way
07:56:02.940 genghis khan uh the mongolian king or emperor or whatever i don't know what the exact terminology
07:56:09.480 was for his title who had the largest and to this day the largest contiguous land empire in all of
07:56:17.940 human history who just wantonly killed swaths millions of people he had dozens of concubines
07:56:30.780 he had many multiple wives was it consensual hold on no that's irrelevant objection relevance
07:56:38.360 uh objection sustained wait is that the one word okay whatever do you think genghis khan
07:56:47.500 would sacrifice his life for one of his many wives no he's like oh you think i'm gonna die
07:56:56.420 for one of my my wives is he someone to look up to as a man yes he had multiple he had dozens of
07:57:05.720 wife he had concubines do you think that's morally right though that's secondary that
07:57:09.940 objection of relevance uh so my my point here is but we're we're we're not assessing uh moral
07:57:18.460 virtue here we're you you would agree with me that someone can be an alpha male and immoral
07:57:24.080 right so if we're assessing alphaness uh over there i think we'd have to say that genghis khan
07:57:32.260 was certainly an alpha male, being the ruler of the largest contiguous land empire to have ever
07:57:40.260 existed, killing many, many multiple people. I'm not suggesting he's a moral man. I am suggesting
07:57:46.620 that he is an alpha male. Didn't we say in the beginning of this, we talked about war,
07:57:52.560 how men are stronger at war, how women should not be in war and women should not be on the front
07:57:56.820 lines etc etc didn't we say that so what would be the difference men are stronger objection
07:58:02.260 relevance men are stronger okay we know this well who's why we're having a conversation you said
07:58:07.900 it's beta for the man to be to to want to survive and i would i would present to you a historical
07:58:13.520 historical example i argue when it comes to gangas khan like yeah he did all of that and
07:58:19.820 the mongolians are waiting for a second coming literally but between gangas khan and the man
07:58:25.160 who conquered death which one was more alpha and who behaved in a more moral fashion jesus christ
07:58:31.480 literally like he literally conquered death conquered the world i wasn't talking about moral
07:58:35.280 i'm talking about alpha i'm talking about alpha historically and the omega like literally like
07:58:43.440 disseminating your seed is not the strongest thing a man can do dying for your sins dying for those
07:58:49.640 who don't deserve it is actually the most alpha male thing you could do according to the alpha
07:58:53.080 Now, Brian, what do you define as alpha, though?
07:58:56.140 Is it what Genghis Khan was?
07:58:57.660 Like, what's your definition of alpha?
07:58:59.320 He's, like, making a woman bow for him.
07:59:02.340 I think if you call yourself an alpha, you're a beta.
07:59:04.820 Yeah, it's super cringe.
07:59:07.140 It is super cringe.
07:59:08.380 But, look, ultimately, this idea that you're a beta male for...
07:59:12.620 Trembling away and throwing a woman off.
07:59:14.520 Yeah, when you're the stronger race.
07:59:15.940 Technically, like, I think it would be more alpha if...
07:59:19.520 Here's your perspective.
07:59:20.380 move uh genghis khan aside i think the more out again it's super cringe to use this terminology
07:59:25.780 that the more alpha thing would be uh oh okay i have to choose between me dying or my wife dying
07:59:32.560 well i could get another wife and i could have 20 more children with more women versus oh my god
07:59:41.640 like check this out in modern day for for most dudes for most dudes who'd be willing to die for
07:59:47.260 their girlfriend she's going to be on another dude's dick within three months so i gotta give
07:59:51.920 my life for a woman who's going to be on tinder two weeks after the fortnight a fortnight after
07:59:58.580 the fucking uh you wait hold on bro fuck that shit fuck that shit i ain't dying for some chick
08:00:06.060 who's gonna have another man another man's cock balls deep in her within three months of my death
08:00:12.900 fuck that shit, she can fucking die
08:00:15.500 I get to live, I can impregnate
08:00:17.740 another woman
08:00:18.400 you just said that you would go for another woman right after
08:00:21.500 yeah, it's the same thing
08:00:23.480 yeah, fuck it
08:00:24.220 he's playing defense
08:00:27.320 yeah, sure
08:00:27.880 why do men go to war?
08:00:31.140 why have only men gone to war?
08:00:34.100 to protect women, which is why women
08:00:35.520 being in the military is counterintuitive
08:00:36.680 women are not deserving of being protected
08:00:39.300 any longer
08:00:40.280 but what about your daughter?
08:00:41.660 You don't deserve it
08:00:43.320 You women don't deserve it
08:00:45.360 Would you assert alpha status
08:00:47.300 Okay I gotta die for a woman
08:00:49.660 How many of y'all are virgins
08:00:51.220 Fuck that shit none of you deserve it
08:00:53.980 You don't deserve it
08:00:55.220 None of you are virgins
08:00:56.660 Get the fuck out of here
08:00:58.040 I gotta fucking die for y'all
08:01:00.000 It doesn't matter
08:01:01.860 But none of you are fucking virgins
08:01:04.380 Fuck that shit
08:01:06.560 Us men are getting a rough fucking deal
08:01:09.000 We gotta die for y'all
08:01:10.480 But you can have fucked 20 men before me
08:01:14.060 Get the fuck out of here
08:01:16.120 You think I'm going to fucking die for some woman
08:01:18.660 You done sucked a guy's dick
08:01:20.520 Three months ago
08:01:21.600 Get the fuck out of here
08:01:22.860 That's fucking bullshit
08:01:24.840 That's fucking bullshit
08:01:27.180 Holy fuck
08:01:28.860 I gotta die for a fucking non-virgin
08:01:32.820 Get the fuck out of here
08:01:34.340 Get your heimen back
08:01:35.560 You're missing a man bun
08:01:36.940 Would you die for a righteous virgin wife
08:01:39.500 would you die for your own daughter would you would you die for 72 virgins in heaven would you
08:01:50.020 expect a man to die would you expect the man that your daughter mary to die for her
08:01:54.680 is the question would you expect the man your daughter mary to die for her
08:01:59.780 she's my blood so yes yeah but you wouldn't you wouldn't die for your own daughter would you die
08:02:08.700 for you if his daughter was a virgin wait who would not want their daughter to marry a man
08:02:14.160 more virtuous than you how is he virtuous why do you recognize that you have a lack of virtue then
08:02:20.700 of course okay but i'm honest about you are missing skinny jeans and man let me let me at
08:02:26.920 least i'm honest at least i'm honest i'll tell you this much all these guys who are like for
08:02:30.840 example andrew tate has said by the way i don't have beef with andrew tate but andrew tate has
08:02:34.780 said my duty as a man if there's i gotta protect i'm willing to die for a woman and look i don't
08:02:42.520 have beef with andrew tate and this is some some things i agree with him some things i disagree
08:02:46.640 i don't believe for a second that andrew tate who by the way has like multiple baby mamas and he's
08:02:54.200 like muslim so he's got multiple girlfriends or whatever i don't think even marries them
08:02:58.200 i don't think for a second he would sacrifice his life for any of his women well he wouldn't
08:03:04.320 So men say it, not as in you agree?
08:03:07.420 No, I agree, I agree.
08:03:08.200 Men say this shit as a virtue signal.
08:03:11.480 Of course, babe, I would sacrifice my life for you, blah, blah, blah.
08:03:16.140 Is this the equivalent to women faking an orgasm?
08:03:18.600 Yes.
08:03:19.460 Well, actually, on a serious note, what Brian just said actually made me kind of think about it.
08:03:23.780 I'm like, if a man wants their daughter to be with someone more virtuous than themselves,
08:03:27.060 and they want to marry someone who's more virtuous than themselves,
08:03:29.360 ultimately what they're saying is they want control in their life,
08:03:31.780 where they're the ones who are holding all the cards and the experience,
08:03:34.320 so that way they can predict the outcome basically because if even virtue applies to the man
08:03:39.280 proposing to his daughter is a factor then it's no longer a sex-based difference well let me also
08:03:44.660 explain this as as far as me wanting my daughter to marry the most virtuous man possible for example
08:03:51.120 uh i'm far from being a virgin i did not wait until marriage what i would like for my daughter
08:03:57.700 whether it happens or not, would be she's a virgin and she gets married to a male virgin
08:04:04.360 who has been chased and they stay together forever and they have a bunch of kids
08:04:09.820 and she gets married in her early 20s or something.
08:04:13.320 That would be a more virtuous path for her, one that I have not followed.
08:04:17.160 I can't actually think of why that would be objectionable
08:04:20.760 just because I haven't lived that path that I wouldn't want a better path for my daughter.
08:04:26.140 It's not objectionable.
08:04:27.160 it's just an observation but that's exactly what everyone wants if they're sensible and care about
08:04:30.740 their children for shizzle okay um past should not matter to which uh griselda you agree ali
08:04:40.740 ali muhammad ali uh ali hey stay here for a sec for just for this one okay uh lisi you were like
08:04:50.860 uh okay we have hannah or frankie passion not matter and then joy no anna passion excuse me
08:05:06.080 uh anna passion not matter okay uh what why should that why should passion not matter
08:05:11.300 body count why is that i don't think it should matter i mean it wasn't on his time why should
08:05:16.820 matter i mean we have a saying in mexico if it didn't happen on your time why should it affect
08:05:21.220 you i mean okay anybody else who said passion not matter why is that uh i mean i just don't
08:05:27.520 believe it just because like if he can do it why can't i mean i haven't done anything bad obviously
08:05:32.700 i haven't i've been not bad but you have an only fans while you're married okay yes it's with him
08:05:38.680 though so uh okay what about anybody else passion not matter did anybody else i feel like it
08:05:43.720 It shouldn't matter because, like, whatever he did before he was with me is not going to affect what we do in our family.
08:05:49.000 Just show of hands.
08:05:49.680 Who circled passion not matter?
08:05:51.240 Can I see that?
08:05:52.400 Passion not matter.
08:05:53.200 Passion not matter.
08:05:54.280 Passion not matter.
08:05:55.180 Okay.
08:05:55.900 So, like, a guy, and it does say in parentheses body count.
08:06:00.840 Should a woman's body count past not matter?
08:06:04.440 Right?
08:06:05.820 Let me ask you guys a question.
08:06:07.080 to those of you who say passion matter if you found out you knew that your guy used to
08:06:16.420 get fucked by men but he's bisexual or let's say he might have he's turned a new leaf now he's
08:06:24.460 straight but he used to get fucked by men or he's bisexual whichever one you fancy most
08:06:30.760 you wouldn't not an issue you this is a different twist it's not different it's totally the same
08:06:38.320 it's literally women fucked men before me but it's your man fucked men before you it's literally
08:06:44.200 the man that's why they say the girls and the gays is because the girls are usually whores
08:06:49.100 and it's like it's literally the equivalent it's like the same energy so but um i don't know i
08:06:56.460 really i don't think it will matter you know because i mean he's not judging me by my past
08:07:01.160 why i i would judge him i mean again i wouldn't think if your husband told you i need to tell
08:07:08.520 you something i mean he told me late in the relationship like let's just say i've been
08:07:14.020 married for him for well yeah i guess you might not leave him now although some women might leave
08:07:17.700 i mean shona would you what about you oh i'd i'd leave and i also said past does matter oh you
08:07:23.980 past doesn't okay okay it's good uh so your your husband's like listen my butthole there's been a
08:07:31.660 lot of dicks and whoa that's somebody's gonna clip that fuck yikes fuck all right very excited
08:07:41.740 new button uh so somebody's gonna fucking just start it right there without the context lovely
08:07:48.820 Lovely.
08:07:50.900 So, okay.
08:07:51.840 Your husband, he received a lot of dickage through his anus.
08:08:00.140 Are you going to be okay with that?
08:08:03.260 I mean, probably since we've been together for, you know, we've been married for 10 years.
08:08:09.420 I think it will matter at this point if he never disclosed it before because that's a trust issue.
08:08:14.940 Have you disclosed, like, all the penis that's been inside you?
08:08:17.820 no but i mean but that's that's but that's different because i mean how's it different
08:08:22.860 i'm not attracted to gay men that's why exactly i'm not attracted no he's bi that's gay okay then
08:08:29.140 sorry i don't think it would matter as much as it would matter if he had like an std before
08:08:34.040 your vagina will never please a gay man well no once again culturally speaking usually mexicans
08:08:39.920 never get into those details they don't like going into the past especially the men they
08:08:43.380 don't like talking about that is your husband mexican though he's mexican he's white his wife
08:08:49.120 no he's white as hell uh what about you you're your husband you're married right he comes to you
08:08:54.360 and he's like yo i used to get fucked by dudes ah damn it fuck
08:08:59.440 i mean i guess that i would care a little
08:09:06.260 okay who else hannah would you date a man um who got fucked by men what if he was the top you know
08:09:15.740 he fucked the men he fucked them up why would that change it actually would be honest i think
08:09:24.680 it's worse if he's a bottom i think it is he's just getting slutted out
08:09:28.800 your dick is getting pleasured by some dude's asshole and you're saying that's gross it's
08:09:35.300 degenerate but it's different it's so different it's like at least in that
08:09:38.520 i can't i don't anyways uh body count what's your body count
08:09:42.700 one you were saying you were a virgin earlier
08:09:46.500 no i wasn't gonna say that i was trying to make a point about something i was
08:09:50.060 just trying to ask him oh bro so what's your body count
08:09:52.660 one okay 12 okay
08:09:55.260 sorry three okay nine nine okay nine from when i was a degenerate
08:10:04.180 teenager okay i'm engaged just him i can't disclose oh well okay hold on well don't lie
08:10:11.920 so i don't respect for him i can't wait can you into the mic though i'm sorry out of respect for
08:10:17.040 him i don't want to say it's more than one then okay what about you three really what wait can
08:10:24.120 is it because she's black um why don't you believe me no okay it's because she's a woman
08:10:29.660 all right go ahead she said three yeah i'm not gonna give my body count range do you want to
08:10:38.060 do a range no do you want to do a range it's low more than 10 less than 10 less than 10 into the
08:10:45.160 mic i'm sorry less than 10 did you what did you say three three yeah you got a guy in high school
08:10:52.620 my baby father and my current boyfriend why are you so suspicious
08:10:56.620 actually wait i'll do this at the end uh range
08:11:02.100 less uh can you less i'm not doing body count more than 10 or less than 10 no i'm not doing
08:11:08.720 body count period whether it's 2 or 22 people are going to infer certain things from that but
08:11:13.140 okay what about you uh body count seven seven okay i'm gonna go with hannah i'm not gonna
08:11:19.540 disclose is it over i'm not disclosing anything and i've disclosed enough with my sex life and
08:11:25.300 my one night stand baby okay thank you that i did not want to explore less than 50 do you want to
08:11:32.140 ballpark it nope ballpark is it less than 50 i'm not single question i'm not gonna disclose anything
08:11:38.040 single question okay all right you can you can oh boy all you want you just said the same thing
08:11:42.880 like okay well before before i give my answer don't we have a second champagne bottle that
08:11:49.340 supposed to open no i did both we already but there was three one thousand dollar payments
08:11:53.260 yeah those are bigger about the same no no i i so i did one pop and then i did two pops like
08:11:59.420 back to back so i did three i popped three six six okay three three you slut liar you
08:12:09.740 Slut to you
08:12:10.660 I know
08:12:11.060 Strumpet
08:12:12.500 Just kidding
08:12:14.020 Just kidding
08:12:14.860 I'm a virgin
08:12:17.480 I've never
08:12:19.780 What is your body count?
08:12:20.960 I've never felt the warm embrace
08:12:22.220 Wait actually yeah
08:12:23.000 I don't disclose
08:12:25.040 More or less than 10 Brian
08:12:26.980 What's the purpose of that question too?
08:12:27.980 It's more than 20
08:12:28.460 What's the purpose?
08:12:28.920 Oh it's more than 100 probably
08:12:29.960 That question
08:12:30.660 Also
08:12:31.780 What is considered a high body count?
08:12:33.860 Just to know the body count
08:12:35.120 You know
08:12:35.400 What is considered high
08:12:37.060 Who keeps track of that anyways?
08:12:38.640 That's an ever changing question
08:12:39.720 I also wonder the same thing.
08:12:41.260 What's the question?
08:12:42.340 What is considered a high body count to you?
08:12:45.520 To me?
08:12:46.580 Oh, to me?
08:12:48.020 So it's a bit nuanced because it depends on the age.
08:12:54.000 So like a woman who's 20 versus a woman who's 30, there's going to be some leeway there a little bit.
08:12:59.780 But like just across the board, I'd say like just as an easy metric.
08:13:05.220 One.
08:13:05.480 as an easy metric for um some people are going to say it might be a bit lower than this but i
08:13:13.780 think like just for simplicity's sake i'll say over 10. that's a very easy cutoff for me to say
08:13:18.840 that's when you're getting i wouldn't say like i wouldn't say it's like it's i wouldn't label it as
08:13:29.660 high but it's above a desirable number like when i think high i think like 20 30 plus around 10 is
08:13:38.240 a bit of a wobbler you could charge it as a felon felony or misdemeanor does it matter whether those
08:13:44.160 bodies happened within relationships or outside of a relationship i like that you asked this
08:13:49.380 question because there it's more than just the body count there's a but i i haven't quite figured
08:13:58.060 out the right term for it there's a body count multiplier for example for example
08:14:03.080 a woman who's slept with one man one time but that man is
08:14:11.520 someone who's just fucking filthy her body counts not one her body counts like 10 so for example a
08:14:22.080 woman who fucked an indian oh bro that's crazy uh it's a joke though he's joking do you want to
08:14:28.920 what would the multiplier be though no no not no it's not a racial thing okay uh i would say
08:14:34.880 but you didn't mention filthiness so i'm like oh bro i i assumed it was out of here literally i
08:14:40.600 love indian people hold on so um okay disavow that but so uh i would say it's like if he's like a
08:14:48.260 rapper or some shit or like i don't know some of these rappers are just known for just running
08:14:53.140 through chicks like if a girl let's say a girl fucked like i don't know some some the the boy
08:14:59.520 next door and he's he was she was a virgin he was a virgin whatever that's different than if a girl
08:15:06.440 fucked nle choppa like if a girl fucked nle or like the island boys or whatever the fuck those
08:15:12.900 weirdos are if a girl fucked an island boy that's like 20 bodies this is boy math this is this is
08:15:19.620 boy math right now uh if a girl fucked hmm who's a it could also just be a guy you don't like
08:15:26.420 too yeah like a girl fucked do you you don't believe that people can change like maybe they've
08:15:31.320 had a past and then they said you know what this is wrong and then they go on long standings of
08:15:36.540 sabbaticals and you know like you can't change your past though i mean that's what i did i disavow
08:15:42.340 like all the bodies i racked up as a teenager but yeah yeah but just to finish this point
08:15:47.460 just answer your question like if a girl if a girl fucked a guy with a bunch of face tattoos
08:15:55.120 that's a that's not one body that's a couple that's 13. if he was a virgin with face tattoos
08:16:03.780 i'm sorry there's no they were in a long-term relationship i'm sorry i feel like there's no
08:16:08.340 male in human history who's a virgin who has a face i mean logically it's possible but there's
08:16:14.120 a male with a face tattoo who's a virgin highly unlikely it's possible but it's like we need
08:16:22.320 someone in the chat to chime in is anyone a virgin with a face tattoo in the chat we need
08:16:27.040 some confirmation like for example some girl um dm'd me asking me to rate her the other day or
08:16:33.240 something and she's like she has breast implants and she said she was a virgin and i'm like
08:16:38.920 it's possible like it obviously it's possible like a woman's a virgin she gets breast implants
08:16:45.100 it's possible but i'm like this is really unlikely like really unlikely you know does that make sense
08:16:52.440 yeah so your your answer is just assuming that if you're not in a relationship with that person
08:16:58.780 that that person has probably ran through a bunch of people yeah i didn't even answer your question
08:17:02.000 come to think of it what was your question again um when it comes to the high body count doesn't
08:17:07.720 matter if those bodies were when you were in a relationship yeah that's a good or not that is a
08:17:12.980 good question i actually wonder if the high body count question per man is the same thing as rate
08:17:17.700 your looks question per woman where it's like they can't have an objective answer to it because it
08:17:21.980 really is about vibes same thing with women it's all about vibes uh so i i don't know because
08:17:29.080 sometimes I think about this, like on one hand, it's good for a woman to be relationship minded,
08:17:34.540 but then I was thinking about, and so I don't know if I actually have like a concrete answer to that.
08:17:39.660 I suppose it's nuanced, but I was thinking about this. For example, say a woman has a body count
08:17:44.300 of one, but she only had sex with a guy one time versus she has a body count of one, but she was
08:17:51.040 dating that guy for three years and got fucked a thousand times so it was a one night stand
08:17:59.240 versus a relationship i think the second option is better i you know what i kind of almost prefer
08:18:07.200 the one night stand what if what if we raise the number to 20 like i know it sounds counterintuitive
08:18:13.400 but it's like she got fucked less that's a feminist argument that's what girls say when
08:18:20.420 they say like oh well you know i've had sex with you know i'm not going to get clipped out i know
08:18:24.280 when they hypothetically say i've had like they've had sex with like 300 men and they're like well
08:18:29.040 what's the difference between that and having sex with one person 300 times well so so your body
08:18:34.620 count is one even if you like you you had a boyfriend and you slept together a thousand times
08:18:39.180 versus you had a one night like your body count is still one but like from the my male perspective
08:18:45.720 um now if it was a string it's still hard like okay she's she's had 10 boyfriends and she slept
08:18:53.520 with all of them 100 times or whatever uh and then she had 10 one night stands that is a bit
08:18:59.140 more indicative like to have 10 one night stands that's more indicative like of a ongoing behavior
08:19:04.740 on the woman's part she's still only fucked 10 times though so but but it isn't like you'll just
08:19:12.920 be a one versus like a girl who has a body count of one and she had a one-night stand like
08:19:16.760 it might have just even been like she wanted something with the guy but the guy hit it and
08:19:22.160 quit it a 10 boyfriends is also indicative of a behavior though if you can't i mean yeah that's
08:19:28.160 yeah that depends on how old you are i'm 41 so and i've been dating since a teenager so let's say
08:19:33.720 let's say this person's 28 and you've had 10 boyfriends they've had one per year they probably
08:19:39.740 Well, even if you add one per year, that's still a really short amount of time.
08:19:44.960 Maybe I could frame it like this.
08:19:46.060 Okay, anything below three body count for the woman to just have had like one sex with these three guys one time each, that's preferable.
08:19:57.120 Then when it gets over, like this is total boy math, over four, then maybe the relationship girl might be preferable.
08:20:04.620 And then when they're both 10, it's just they're both bad.
08:20:08.520 They're both bad.
08:20:10.240 Throw them away.
08:20:11.340 No, don't throw them away.
08:20:12.220 It's like Zach Alphaneck is mad.
08:20:15.020 Brian Atlas kind of has the high social class, right?
08:20:18.260 So he should be able to get that top 1%.
08:20:20.320 I mean, he has room to be picky.
08:20:22.560 Yeah, exactly.
08:20:24.020 I mean, not really.
08:20:25.160 I'm like a chubby old dude.
08:20:26.720 I can't be that picky.
08:20:28.320 And you have a wife application because you don't have enough time for all the women in your DMs, dude.
08:20:32.060 Yeah, what's the acceptance rate?
08:20:33.060 It's because of your status, yeah.
08:20:34.000 I don't know.
08:20:34.460 After the – I would throw my wife out of the boat.
08:20:37.320 i don't know if he's going to be getting too many dms after that wait a minute wait a minute there's
08:20:43.380 a lot of women who especially liberal women where they'll send like those tumblr personality quizzes
08:20:47.400 and like those mbti tests that's basically what brian is doing with the personality test
08:20:52.380 it's just the male version of it i mean earlier i didn't even disavow his whole personality test
08:20:56.160 but like she's fine with the girlfriend's application no no just in general actually
08:20:59.520 i was just kind of thinking about it because it was presented as an issue i don't know i've never
08:21:02.220 I'm a single, a single liberal girl who's sending her, her guy, personality tests.
08:21:06.740 That's some weird shit.
08:21:07.380 Just to be clear, you know, look, it's not that I wouldn't protect my girlfriend.
08:21:11.340 Like if there's a home intruder, like best believe I'm going to handle it.
08:21:15.700 I'm not going to like.
08:21:16.960 Oh, now you're walking back.
08:21:18.620 No, I'm not walking it back.
08:21:19.940 No, but she wouldn't die for her.
08:21:21.480 No, hold on.
08:21:21.940 There's a difference between in a hypothetical where one of you has to die, me preferring
08:21:27.340 to live.
08:21:28.160 That's perhaps you could say that's selfish, but that isn't necessarily evidence of a
08:21:32.200 some sort of cowardice because if presented with a self-defense situation i'll rise to the occasion
08:21:39.180 to the best of my ability like if i have to dispatch the home intruder i will do so like
08:21:44.840 bro i got a fucking cat my cat got into actually i don't know if i should share it's too much detail
08:21:50.720 let's just say if somebody like another animal's fucking with my cat because we get like raccoons
08:21:55.780 and whatever like i'm gonna protect the motherfucking cat i'll just say that you'll
08:22:00.320 You're going to lay down your life for the cat, but not the wife.
08:22:01.940 No, I'm not going to lay down my life for the cat, but I'm going to fuck...
08:22:04.580 Just have to check.
08:22:05.380 Whatever's trying to attack my cat is going to fucking get it.
08:22:08.880 Like, it's going to get fucked up.
08:22:10.020 You sound more determined about your cat than you would for the wife.
08:22:12.040 No, whoever's trying...
08:22:12.940 He has an Instagram account for it.
08:22:15.500 Whoever's going to try to attack my girlfriend, my kids, they're going to get fucked up.
08:22:20.320 Like, if somebody...
08:22:21.160 The enthusiasm's not there anymore.
08:22:22.860 Not going to lie.
08:22:23.720 Okay.
08:22:24.100 Yeah, with the cat, you were very enthusiastic.
08:22:25.720 I do have to agree with you.
08:22:26.880 You're very passionate about the cat.
08:22:28.060 I should just be a cat person from here.
08:22:29.780 You have Toxoplasmas.
08:22:31.220 That cat is getting the life out.
08:22:33.900 Yeah, the cat is.
08:22:35.200 I just bought her multiple beds.
08:22:37.640 Okay, I think we're done with this questionnaire.
08:22:40.020 We got some pre-show notes we got to get into.
08:22:44.100 Is anybody hungry?
08:22:45.620 I can order us some food.
08:22:46.900 I'll order us some food.
08:22:48.220 Can I say that I have a gluten allergy if you are going to order food?
08:22:50.620 I'm sorry.
08:22:51.580 I have celiac.
08:22:52.580 Sorry.
08:22:53.300 I do.
08:22:54.160 You don't have to give me pee.
08:22:55.820 That's fine.
08:22:56.120 I'll start.
08:22:57.140 Intolerance or allergy?
08:22:57.900 Well, we do have snacks back there.
08:22:59.300 We got snacks back there.
08:23:00.320 All right.
08:23:00.500 Let me blast through the pre-show notes from all of you.
08:23:02.980 I'll try to do it as quick as possible.
08:23:05.560 All right.
08:23:06.380 And let's see here.
08:23:07.700 We have – we did that.
08:23:11.000 We did that.
08:23:14.220 Okay.
08:23:14.660 You do OnlyFans, right?
08:23:16.320 You do solo BG content?
08:23:18.280 Yes.
08:23:18.560 But the BG content is with your husband.
08:23:20.300 Yes.
08:23:20.520 You've never done boy-girl content with another man.
08:23:24.780 Okay.
08:23:25.260 You're married.
08:23:25.800 You're a stay-at-home mom.
08:23:26.600 uh you want are women dating up unrealistic i think so oh you think it's you think it's
08:23:35.320 unrealistic for women to do that yeah sometimes i totally agree with you no disagreement you say
08:23:41.760 that porn consumption or you ask is porn consumption in relationships cheating i'm not
08:23:48.460 so sure i'm not sure i would go i would say it's cheating but men shouldn't do it and it's wrong
08:23:53.480 But I don't know if it rises to
08:23:55.640 The level of cheating
08:23:57.080 I think it's ruining sex
08:23:58.480 Men should definitely not do it
08:24:00.980 But I said he's getting off to another woman
08:24:03.080 I think it's giving
08:24:05.320 Also couples an unrealistic
08:24:07.140 Expectation of sex
08:24:08.900 They think we're going to be swinging on swings
08:24:10.740 And doing all this like kiki shit 24-7
08:24:13.520 Well not only that
08:24:14.380 Actually if you're watching pornography as a man
08:24:16.660 You're basically training yourself to cuck yourself
08:24:18.560 That's why cuckolding is becoming more and more of a popular thing
08:24:21.120 It's voyeuristic
08:24:22.280 Yeah, it's true.
08:24:23.140 Tiffany, can you give me two water bottles?
08:24:24.460 Also, if the man had the opportunity to have sex with the porn star, he would probably take it.
08:24:28.000 Also, you know what's wild?
08:24:29.260 No, I wouldn't.
08:24:29.700 Also, it's probably an indication that he might want to cheat in the future.
08:24:33.760 Riley, would you?
08:24:34.680 No.
08:24:35.160 What?
08:24:36.200 That's like the first red flag before cheating as well, I feel like.
08:24:39.260 Well, what's wild is that 90% of OnlyFans subscribers are married men.
08:24:44.000 Well, I would like to.
08:24:45.260 I think the status, 30% of porn consumers now are women.
08:24:50.020 It's been growing.
08:24:50.860 But I don't know if I believe that.
08:24:53.220 Okay, just to blast through, you said do men care more about looks
08:24:56.860 and women care more about money?
08:24:58.560 Is that your?
08:25:01.020 Yeah.
08:25:02.080 Okay, that's your question?
08:25:04.420 Yeah, probably.
08:25:05.660 Okay, next, Emily.
08:25:07.480 Okay, Emily, you were 25 single.
08:25:09.140 You just moved to another state.
08:25:10.480 You met a guy at a restaurant.
08:25:12.700 He wanted to go to another bar.
08:25:14.420 You got in his car.
08:25:15.320 You were driving.
08:25:16.080 He asked if you wanted to sleep with him.
08:25:18.180 You said no.
08:25:18.880 So he did what?
08:25:20.860 so this happened in fort lauderdale florida he basically told me to get out of his car like he
08:25:27.320 kicked me out of his car on the side of train tracks because i refused to sleep with him and
08:25:31.540 he proceeded to tell me that he was going to find another bitch who would yikes um and you so you
08:25:37.860 met at a bar and you continued hanging out it was like an italian restaurant bar it was kind of early
08:25:42.800 and then the night was getting later i think this happened like around 11 p.m but it wasn't like a
08:25:46.540 dating app or it wasn't no in person you met him when i was out yeah okay um and so you called a
08:25:52.620 friend to come save you yes yeah okay so that's wrong for the man to do uh you know you should
08:25:59.180 probably you know drive them back or whatever like it's funny talking about it now but when i was in
08:26:04.500 the situation like i was scared i didn't know where i was like it was a new place now i don't
08:26:08.740 think that's sort of piggybacking off this though to the panel do you guys think that it's wrong
08:26:14.940 like that situation that's that's clearly like he could have like he should have driven you
08:26:20.920 somewhere safe like yeah back home or at least back to the bar main street yeah yeah like that's
08:26:26.380 a he had some duty of care for you that he i mean yeah so um although i wonder if we flip to the
08:26:34.960 roles if a woman insisted that a man exit her vehicle would we have an issue and he
08:26:46.220 like would we have an issue with it yes like for like if you denied him sex or something or
08:26:52.360 no the woman's just like okay we're in a dangerous part of town like but i'm upset at you for
08:26:56.980 whatever the reason get the fuck out that's not okay that's not okay i also felt like if i didn't
08:27:01.560 get out he could physically remove me and i don't think i could physically remove a man from my
08:27:05.980 vehicle exactly so that would really scare me if the roles were yeah sure men are men are stronger
08:27:10.700 than women so i feel like that is a little bit scarier uh i guess the question i was going to
08:27:14.740 pose though is in a situation where he's not a man's not being a fucking dickhead and leaving
08:27:20.520 her in a dangerous precarious situation do you think it's wrong if a man wants to have sex with
08:27:26.780 woman and she doesn't she doesn't want to which totally fine that he drops her so in other words
08:27:34.900 like he's like say you drove her over to the guy's house and you're like hey uh i don't really want
08:27:40.580 to hook up which totally fine and then he's like oh well um i do can you leave is that wrong
08:27:49.680 absolutely no
08:27:51.680 you have your car
08:27:54.300 she can get home safe
08:27:56.540 but he's just like
08:27:59.400 I want sex
08:28:01.020 you don't want to have sex
08:28:01.940 I don't want to hang out with you anymore
08:28:03.260 I wish you would have said it before I wasted my time
08:28:05.500 I went over there
08:28:06.040 some men would make
08:28:09.800 perhaps a wrong assumption
08:28:11.680 but I think some men might assume
08:28:13.700 perhaps wrongly
08:28:14.620 that if you're coming over to his house
08:28:16.520 that you may be interested in having sex with them.
08:28:20.420 Are they like, that's why I always put it out.
08:28:21.920 I don't, I say that I'm not going to have sex with them.
08:28:23.460 It kind of depends on what time though.
08:28:24.960 But sometimes women on dating apps will be like,
08:28:27.240 like not looking for a hookup
08:28:29.880 and then they do actually want to fuck.
08:28:34.300 Then they were like, then they're wrong for that.
08:28:36.120 If they're like misdating their intentions initially.
08:28:38.760 But if a guy goes after a woman saying
08:28:40.480 that they're not looking for a hookup,
08:28:41.640 then they're looking for a hookup
08:28:43.580 when a woman that says that,
08:28:44.560 then that's his problem.
08:28:45.660 That's his problem.
08:28:46.240 For every reason that I can think of, it's not wrong to just end an interaction.
08:28:52.540 Right.
08:28:53.020 You have no obligation to be interacting with a person, no matter what the reason.
08:28:58.640 Yeah, I mean...
08:28:59.220 No obligation, but it's still like, you can still say it's right or wrong.
08:29:02.220 I think it would be impolite to a degree.
08:29:03.860 It's not wrong.
08:29:04.740 But like, how about this?
08:29:06.160 Let's say the man finishes off the night.
08:29:08.300 Let's say, you know, you were in the middle of watching a movie.
08:29:11.340 You were making out, which you were fine with, but he wanted to go further.
08:29:14.200 you don't and it stops there
08:29:16.480 you know there's no pressure and then
08:29:18.500 you finish the movie and you guys
08:29:20.700 say goodnight as you otherwise
08:29:22.640 would but then he no longer
08:29:24.580 wants to see you because sex
08:29:26.600 wasn't or isn't on the table
08:29:28.700 is that wrong
08:29:29.760 yes
08:29:31.060 wait so if a girl doesn't want to fuck
08:29:33.800 hold on then it's wrong
08:29:36.220 no if a girl
08:29:38.580 doesn't want to have sex in that scenario that's
08:29:40.460 fine and if he suddenly wants to like kick her out
08:29:42.620 because she didn't want to have sex with him
08:29:44.140 then i think i'm judging him so the new scenario is like he makes the move she says no he's okay
08:29:51.640 let's finish the movie the night ends you go home but he's no longer interested and doesn't want to
08:29:58.000 continue seeing you because you turned him down for sex and because sex is not on the table is
08:30:03.480 that wrong okay so like is she just like not is it like too early for her to have sex or is it
08:30:08.280 Is it like morally wrong?
08:30:09.580 If it's too early for her, if she feels it's too early for her to have sex.
08:30:13.220 It's a different time.
08:30:14.040 Like he wants to have sex on the sooner side.
08:30:16.220 She wants to wait.
08:30:17.680 Okay.
08:30:17.940 If they have different sexual preferences, he can end things with her.
08:30:20.220 That's fine.
08:30:21.240 Anybody else?
08:30:22.100 Any thoughts on that?
08:30:23.380 There's no right or wrong, but I do think that's a conversation that should be had up
08:30:27.120 front.
08:30:27.880 And I always do.
08:30:28.840 I'm not having sex with you.
08:30:29.940 Like at all.
08:30:30.680 I always make sure I say that.
08:30:32.240 I'm not going to.
08:30:32.780 And if it's like, I won't even go over to a man's house without knowing them for a little
08:30:36.700 bit.
08:30:36.840 And when I do, it's, I'm not having sex with you tonight, just to let you know.
08:30:39.900 So I don't give them the false hope of that.
08:30:42.440 I think it's something that needs to be said.
08:30:43.560 But there's no right or wrong to it.
08:30:44.880 It's just something that should be communicated so that people aren't, I'm not out getting kicked out, and then the man's not pissed because he's not getting ass.
08:30:52.500 Yeah, totally fine.
08:30:53.360 I think a man should be able to hang out with a woman without having sex, though, I just want to say.
08:30:56.820 Yeah.
08:30:57.080 Yeah, that's fine.
08:30:58.320 Well, and he's doing me a favor if he's going to kick me out because I won't give up my vagina.
08:31:02.220 Thank you for not wasting my time any longer.
08:31:04.380 You just showed your true colors.
08:31:05.740 Thank you.
08:31:06.500 like now we're not wasting each other's time yeah i think that's that's uh to some degree fair but
08:31:11.940 i don't think i also don't think it's wrong for men to have sexual desire and if this woman's not
08:31:18.400 going to satisfy it he can find somebody else no of course he he should have his sexual desires
08:31:22.960 completely met i still think that he should be able to have a hangout with her at some point or
08:31:27.280 at some points without having sex it should go beyond say he is like look um maybe we don't have
08:31:33.120 to have sex the first date but i would like to have sex you know he has a three date rule if it
08:31:38.180 doesn't have and he's not saying this is like uh from a transactional perspective but this is in
08:31:43.460 his internal rule he's like hey i want to uh i want to have sex by the third date and she's like
08:31:50.800 i want to wait three months is it wrong for him to be like well i don't want to wait three months
08:31:57.900 to fuck he doesn't have to wait three months he can end things but i will say it's like if you
08:32:01.640 have a man like that who's expecting sex by the third date he should not be out here criticizing
08:32:06.360 women for like their for like um promiscuity account yeah okay but that's kind of like i just
08:32:12.000 want to mention that yes it's kind of like jesse peterson where it's like you know oh if a woman
08:32:16.120 has sex with a bunch of men what does that make her a slut and it's like okay what does that make
08:32:19.240 you a slut maker and it's like you're admitting that you're creating the problem right uh emily
08:32:23.520 finishing off your notes your entire family hates your fiance what's the story there so when we first
08:32:29.580 met like both of us didn't really have our shit together and now we're doing really good and we're
08:32:34.920 about to buy a home and hopefully they come back into our lives they did invite me to dinner today
08:32:40.640 but i am here so hopefully w whatever it gets better hopefully it gets better it'll get better
08:32:46.140 okay is there is there it's just like you guys were not like now he's in the union with hvac like
08:32:52.300 he was just um working on the beach when i first met him and i was working in a clothing store and
08:32:56.880 Now I have a really good bartending position and he does HVAC in sales and we kind of grew together.
08:33:02.800 You said that splitting the bill, the splitting the bill conversation gets you every time.
08:33:07.540 Why is that?
08:33:08.640 I just, I really just think men should pay for the first date.
08:33:11.800 I'm not saying that you should take me out to like a $300 dinner, but like my fiance and I, we ordered a pizza pie.
08:33:16.980 We got some ice cream and he paid for both.
08:33:18.960 And that was that.
08:33:22.060 That's really all I got.
08:33:24.060 Okay.
08:33:24.460 what should women do though um like in what sense like on a date or just in general
08:33:32.340 in general i think they are the emotional support of the family i think they make everything pretty
08:33:39.620 and better like i think they make a house a home i think usually men provide the household but
08:33:44.560 you know i make our apartment pretty i think my fiance would just sleep with a mattress on the
08:33:49.580 floor if he didn't have me but i mean this is something i mean sometimes people might not move
08:33:53.920 in together until like it can be months down the road we did move in pretty quickly okay but i mean
08:34:00.780 you would agree that most relationships people are not moving in yeah we're that quick we're on
08:34:06.640 usually yeah we're yeah so it's like but so what is the woman bringing prior to
08:34:11.000 moving in together which can sometimes be way down the road
08:34:15.100 emotional support maybe friendship i don't know emotional support yeah i find that oftentimes
08:34:24.200 not all the time my man is my emotional support and i hope that i can be his too
08:34:27.920 i i find most of the time though that not all the time um i find that i'm the one having to soothe
08:34:36.580 the woman emotionally versus the reverse i agree and so it's like emotional the woman's the
08:34:42.940 emotional support it's no it seems like i'm doing i hate this fucking term the emotional labor
08:34:49.100 isn't sex a little bit of emotion though if they're having sex with you isn't that
08:34:54.300 equal value exchange she gets sex i get sex we both or i feel like it's emotional support
08:35:00.780 prior to moving in like you don't have to live with him to help him like if you're seriously
08:35:05.080 dating someone and maybe he has a job like you where you're filming 12 hours every week and
08:35:09.580 you're exhausted and she cleans your apartment and does your laundry that's a big help to you
08:35:13.080 i would think no uh if she does that yeah do most women do that uh i would hope so i do but i don't
08:35:20.540 think most women do unfortunately and i don't think most western women do either i think they
08:35:24.780 want everything you can't just take take and take you have to give too okay uh all right um
08:35:31.380 yeah i don't know about the like the men should pay thing i's always wondering why
08:35:38.900 like i do uh but why he also had a better job than me at the time why should men i don't know
08:35:48.300 it seems like it seems like look i guess here's what i'm getting at uh men should do x men should
08:35:54.460 do y men should do z what can we say women should do there's expectations on men what are the
08:36:03.400 expectations on women have sex with you have sex with you every day i don't know
08:36:07.800 but she also gets sex and a lot of times she's like not all women i don't know again maybe can
08:36:19.180 you tell me what you would like or give me a hint or somewhere in this well yeah like yeah of course
08:36:24.840 like yeah laundry clean cook um i have one give me kids down the road but that's down the road
08:36:33.480 that's down the road um so i'd be able to get to that down the road and in order to do that you
08:36:39.300 have to biblically speaking biblically speaking a woman's role is supposed to bring my vagina for
08:36:45.060 free a woman's role is supposed to bring peace to the home peace to the man that's like her
08:36:49.820 yeah that's what i was getting at peace but the issue is the issue is that once again we're not
08:36:54.720 living in biblical like in a biblical society so instead women are in verse and they're not
08:36:59.240 bringing peace they're bringing chaos which is exactly why men are averse to getting married
08:37:03.880 because they're like well what is the better like what brian just said too about in his home in the
08:37:08.860 separate bedrooms do you think if someone's a guest in his house they really should be crashing
08:37:12.420 out like that either like do you think that's appropriate adult behavior when you're in someone
08:37:16.060 else's household well not only that you can kick someone out at that point that's like psychotic
08:37:22.140 well that's the thing is the grasp on their own emotional awareness the grass definitely did not
08:37:26.980 bring me thank you that's why you got a cat well that's why i think you should just put it out
08:37:30.820 there just try it just put it out there i do i literally it's on my fucking girlfriend
08:37:34.580 questionnaire it's the most autistic fucking thing ever the grass i went to see it though
08:37:38.900 one day i will reveal the girlfriend i think no matter what you do if you're if you're trying to
08:37:44.700 do like traditional, if those are your desires and expectations, I want a man to pay for the
08:37:49.380 first date, provide, protect, et cetera. I think no matter what you do, there's a power imbalance
08:37:55.100 that happens because women have the optionality to be choosier. And so in the beginning, it's
08:38:02.300 unfortunate, but if I were a guy and I was interested in a girl and wanted a relationship
08:38:07.000 with her, I don't know that I would risk not paying on the first date because she may be
08:38:12.460 averse to that. I'm not saying it's fair, but on the flip side of that, from my worldview,
08:38:17.500 there is a bit of a power imbalance. I try to demonstrate, um, you know, how I will be in the
08:38:23.700 marriage. And then once I'm married, my husband has my complete and utter submission. And then
08:38:29.260 he has the authority, he has the power, et cetera. I have paid for my boyfriend's things before,
08:38:38.080 But I'm saying initially, like, when we're first starting off, you better pay for me, period.
08:38:42.880 Well, the other question is getting into it, getting into it.
08:38:45.760 Like, I'm cool to, like, hey, let's do this, let's do that.
08:38:49.300 Yeah, but I just want to know that you're not using me and that you're going to provide.
08:38:54.640 And then once you prove that, I'm all, hey, babe, let's go out to dinner.
08:38:57.720 Like, I'm me.
08:39:00.200 Lisabella.
08:39:02.020 Lisabella.
08:39:02.800 So you're Mormon, LDS?
08:39:05.020 Used to be.
08:39:05.820 Used to be.
08:39:06.220 you said okay we already talked about the laundry thing skip that you say it's outrageous though
08:39:11.520 outrage you're outraged when you hear me say the woman should do the laundry on the first day you
08:39:16.300 know what i'm actually sometimes a gentleman though because hear me out uh it'll already be
08:39:21.080 done in the dryer so she just has to fold i'm a nice guy right i'm a gentleman i'm not gonna have
08:39:27.220 her put it in the washer transfer it to the dryer it's easy it's already doesn't have to handle your
08:39:31.900 dirty laundry okay well my by the way um this changes everything my laundry is even before it
08:39:39.560 goes into the the washer it's pretty much clean it's clean to be fair to me not like streak marks
08:39:46.980 i'm not i'm not really traditional so i don't expect a mess on the first date so of course
08:39:53.160 i'd be at first uh hold on hold on moving on uh two times you've been in a situation where a guy
08:39:57.700 has told you it would ruin his life if you did not get an abortion in the case of pregnancy.
08:40:02.800 It's true. Needless to say, neither of those relationships lasted. Yeah. So wait, did you
08:40:09.900 get abortions? No. Okay. So they're saying if you got pregnant, um, it would ruin their lives
08:40:18.420 if you did not get the abortion. Okay. But you didn't, okay. I see. Uh, you didn't actually get
08:40:23.660 the abortions um okay conversation would just come up and they would tell me heart like are you
08:40:29.320 pro-choice or pro-life um more pro-life okay uh you said a boyfriend strangled you while he was
08:40:35.540 on drugs and you still stayed with him that's my current boyfriend oh wait hold on wait wait wait
08:40:46.100 hold on i got wait is he sober now wait hold on is wayne brady gonna have the choker bitch
08:40:51.580 Wait, so you write, you think modern dating encourages people to give up on a relationship after the slightest red flag.
08:41:03.840 You value sticking through hard things and not giving up so easily.
08:41:08.300 On one hand, you're very ride or die.
08:41:10.880 On the other hand, I don't know.
08:41:12.840 I think if a man tries to choke you, you can leave.
08:41:16.500 I think you can leave.
08:41:18.280 But it was like a drug-induced psychosis.
08:41:20.980 No, no, no.
08:41:21.480 It's not okay.
08:41:22.140 It doesn't matter.
08:41:23.400 Girl, value yourself.
08:41:24.420 This does not help.
08:41:25.080 This is worse.
08:41:26.860 You don't understand.
08:41:28.140 He's a criminal.
08:41:29.080 Oh, no, no, but he was only under drugs.
08:41:30.900 Does your family like it?
08:41:31.780 That makes it worse.
08:41:32.740 My family absolutely loves him.
08:41:34.760 You deserve better.
08:41:35.860 Do you know why?
08:41:36.400 I didn't argue against him.
08:41:37.480 Do you know why?
08:41:38.360 What?
08:41:39.620 He's not a drug addict.
08:41:41.460 This was like a one-off thing.
08:41:43.600 Like he was slipped something?
08:41:45.780 No, no.
08:41:46.580 He chose to do this drug.
08:41:48.540 Okay.
08:41:49.800 So he willfully.
08:41:50.680 choked you that's he has he has no memory of it most people who tried drugs once don't just
08:41:57.300 strangle their partner though that's kind of a scary terrifying what's he gonna do when he gets
08:42:01.760 a couple of beers has he ever choked you after or before no any other physical violence was he on
08:42:09.940 shrooms and he thought you were a dragon and i'm sorry when you're on shrooms you're very nice and
08:42:13.980 happy wait is that what happened he thought you were someone else or something else the thing
08:42:17.560 about this trip like we've done shrooms together other times and it was fun this trip for him was
08:42:26.320 different because he was being antagonized by his friends that aren't his friends anymore before i
08:42:33.520 even got there so by the time i got there he was freaking out i would say morally he's in the clear
08:42:39.520 because he had no idea that it was you because he was on shrooms but for your future life that is
08:42:46.440 not a good thing to yeah obviously but listen he was freaking out and he did something similar
08:42:57.340 what if this happens with your newborn child he wouldn't be on shrooms near a child okay
08:43:02.680 why was he on shrooms he did something similar but less severe to his friends that were there
08:43:08.720 before i was they were supposed to be watching him and look they wouldn't even have a conversation
08:43:18.100 with him what i'm saying is how long you been with him uh 10 months oh that's not enough time
08:43:23.660 yeah and this happened he's like she's like 10 years this happened this happened one month in
08:43:30.540 i just don't think listen i don't think that's one little tiny thing it's crazy you deserve
08:43:36.660 better girl you deserve please stand up you're trying to curse him just to be clear i don't
08:43:41.280 think you should ever be in in either direction there should ever be any physical violence
08:43:45.520 whatsoever however oh my goodness oh god oh my goodness hold on no hold on
08:43:52.440 can there be a situation in like some fucking near end relationship argument and your girlfriend
08:44:06.260 is saying some terrible shit uh again i would never do this i don't think it should happen
08:44:12.940 or the woman hits the man right say the woman slaps the man once and they've been together
08:44:18.400 for three years more likely or let's say the man and the woman been together for three years
08:44:23.840 and he's never been violent to her before but she says something like and that's why your dad left
08:44:30.100 you now look now look i don't think you should ever hit a woman but but i don't know forget
08:44:39.220 everything else i just said i would never hit a woman but i could see a guy if a woman
08:44:44.500 digs in with the knife
08:44:46.780 in such a way
08:44:48.220 be a man
08:44:51.380 and suck it up
08:44:52.200 I'm just saying I would never do it
08:44:54.840 but I'm saying
08:44:55.780 if you slapped a woman once
08:44:58.740 no
08:44:59.400 hold on
08:45:01.840 and it never happens again
08:45:03.920 can there be forgiveness
08:45:06.780 I'm not suggesting
08:45:08.900 I'm just asking as a question
08:45:10.920 can there
08:45:12.940 be
08:45:13.500 can it still work can somebody make a mistake these ladies would not know that it would never
08:45:19.880 happen again it's like the sean connery thing it's like you never do it with an open you can
08:45:24.340 give somebody a second chance but never a third no now let's see if you're consistent though let's
08:45:32.300 see if you're consistent uh uh how about this wait let me change the framing a bit your girlfriend
08:45:38.720 cheats on you and you want you just open again never do this you should leave you should break
08:45:45.000 up with her okay but he slaps her across the face still not okay okay it's you shouldn't right it's
08:45:53.660 over right boyfriend cheats on his girlfriend and she slaps him is there coming back from that
08:46:03.600 i bet you women are like yeah probably i mean yeah i would probably slap him so but it's worse
08:46:10.760 because he's physically but let's say they're like okay i cheated on you and you slapped me
08:46:15.700 and she wants to make it work and he wants to make it work can it it won't work sorry you said
08:46:21.340 you're allowed to have a double stand earlier we're allowed to have a double stander with this
08:46:23.880 yeah should not hit women a man should not hit but it's okay for women it's not it's not ideal
08:46:29.820 but it's not as bad Brian it's the big difference is you're stronger Brian stronger than the women
08:46:35.120 look at Griselda look at her arms she looks strong that's a strong woman independent women
08:46:43.920 Brian no but how much you weigh you're including you don't even need to answer that you don't even
08:46:49.480 I know I actually I think we're missing something really important that she said
08:46:58.340 which is the part about people giving up on relationships too quickly that doesn't apply
08:47:04.180 hold on I entirely agree with that position and if like I'm I'm married so maybe it's a little
08:47:11.420 bit different but I can tell you with certainty that like I'm I'm in this marriage 110 percent
08:47:17.860 and if my husband like hauled off and slapped me which I know who I married and I don't think he
08:47:23.740 would ever do it but i i wouldn't leave him over one time if it became a pattern that's something
08:47:30.000 different i would say leave after the first time is there going back to the mexican i would is
08:47:35.260 look is there ever a scenario where someone could say something so vile yeah so disturbing
08:47:44.400 so crushing
08:47:46.720 that it would
08:47:48.260 overwhelm you
08:47:50.560 to the point where
08:47:52.300 your hand becomes rigid
08:47:55.000 low testosterone activities
08:47:56.340 I have a little story about that
08:47:57.780 I agree with Charlie
08:47:59.440 I've never hit a woman, you should never hit a woman
08:48:01.720 if a woman said some fucked up shit to me
08:48:04.060 I mean I'll tell her to get the fuck out of my house
08:48:06.680 I'll tell her in harsh words
08:48:08.780 I don't think I would hit her
08:48:10.400 but I'm just saying you don't think
08:48:12.520 That's cool.
08:48:13.260 You don't think.
08:48:13.800 Yes, I don't think.
08:48:15.120 You know that you wouldn't.
08:48:16.420 But I think women can provoke men.
08:48:18.660 I know I wouldn't hit a woman.
08:48:19.800 I'm just saying I'm interested in the double standard that exists.
08:48:23.980 It seems like y'all give women leeway for slapping heads.
08:48:26.780 But there's not the same string.
08:48:28.240 I feel like once you get to that cross, the relationship is done.
08:48:32.760 He will knock me down.
08:48:34.860 If hitting somebody is wrong.
08:48:36.780 So hold on.
08:48:37.520 Let's say in the scenario, the man is weaker than the woman.
08:48:42.300 he's married to like a steroid bodybuilder uh does that change anything well technically
08:48:46.860 physically it's been proven that they're still stronger okay i still keep up the double standard
08:48:51.060 if you get to that point the relationship is done no one's gonna go past that brian you're
08:48:55.260 bringing up some like that's some like liberal thing to do to bring up like some exception
08:48:58.480 like some bodybuilder true right like you said though you can say whatever you want to say there's
08:49:04.400 other ways you can let out that frustration and that anger you can yell at her you can cuss her
08:49:07.940 out like okay if she said something that foul cuss her out i'm just i still think that there's a
08:49:11.780 breaking point though i still think men and women have their breaking point and there is something
08:49:15.340 that if if someone says it it's almost like it's really hard basically if somebody like you
08:49:20.640 shouldn't do it if my girl still shouldn't yeah if hold on i'm not going to talk about me i could
08:49:26.780 see a man who has such a strong affinity for his father or his mother and his significant other
08:49:34.500 was mouthing off about his mother or his father i could see i would never do it
08:49:43.060 i would understand no you leave and you never give that woman the time of day again
08:49:48.380 like i've never no listen you never hit a woman i would understand well i've never hit anyone i
08:49:57.400 should still be open to giving them a second chance well actually if you're in the situation
08:50:03.680 where you are getting domestic with a woman the woman can leverage it against you is the issue
08:50:08.400 really like there is no appeal for a man if a woman gets physical with him in fact she could
08:50:13.040 even hurt herself and claim that the man did it so i think that's the double standard legally even
08:50:17.860 that's happening basically well how about uh how about this a woman slaps a man can he slap her
08:50:22.020 back oh yeah no okay oh hold on hold on it depends like taylor frankie paul bridge the
08:50:29.880 physical gap you need to get out of there okay what i do say what i will say about like a man
08:50:33.820 being able to like defend himself is like a woman's like attacking him he does have the right
08:50:37.460 to like push her off whole panel raise your hand if a woman slaps a man can he slap her back
08:50:45.120 raise your hand i do actually agree with that no no no oh interesting you can push her to be clear
08:50:54.320 To be clear, I want to make something very clear
08:50:56.240 As a man, if a woman hits you
08:50:58.620 You should show restraint
08:51:00.680 And you should not hit her back
08:51:02.680 You should remove yourself from the situation
08:51:04.880 It's over with that woman
08:51:06.720 It's over
08:51:08.260 It's over
08:51:09.500 If a man hits a woman
08:51:12.940 She shouldn't hit him back
08:51:14.000 But hold on
08:51:14.520 If I was in public
08:51:16.760 And I saw a girlfriend as hard as she fucking could
08:51:20.440 Slap a man
08:51:22.020 I would understand why he slaps her back
08:51:25.580 It would be fair
08:51:27.280 That's fair
08:51:28.540 I think that's fair
08:51:29.740 It's like an amendment right
08:51:30.980 If a man shouldn't do it
08:51:32.660 If he was socially allowed to do it
08:51:35.620 Women would hit less
08:51:36.820 Let me ask the black women
08:51:38.520 A black man is dating a white woman
08:51:41.120 And she calls him the n-word and slaps him
08:51:43.860 Can
08:51:44.820 Can that brother
08:51:46.180 Can that brother
08:51:48.560 Slap a bitch
08:51:50.260 no no no can the brother slap a bitch i just think yeah i think like you can be
08:51:58.600 provoked to a certain point like i can say some real fucked up shit like so and i go there like
08:52:05.840 if i know something like i don't even fuck your kid has cancer like i don't care i'm gonna go
08:52:10.340 there too like i don't care you can always say something bad they go low you go low with your
08:52:16.880 But it's going to hurt you more if your man talks about something personal, because we're emotional.
08:52:21.500 So it'll stick with you, even if he's like, oh, I was mad in the moment.
08:52:26.160 Okay, but he can still do that over hitting a woman.
08:52:28.480 Just really quick, final thing here.
08:52:30.800 By the way, prescriptively, I would say, even though I say I would understand it, men, if a woman slaps you, extricate yourself from the situation.
08:52:40.540 Even though I think you would actually be legally justified slapping her back, I guess.
08:52:44.860 And morally justified to slap her back
08:52:47.400 Whoa
08:52:47.860 No, you're totally morally justified
08:52:49.940 Hold on, she slapped you, slap her
08:52:52.260 No
08:52:52.760 No, because it tolerates abuse from her
08:52:56.160 That's the issue, then she's allowed to go further
08:52:58.080 That's what women usually do if they're hitting a man
08:52:59.920 Hold on, as a man, even if a woman slaps you
08:53:02.380 My prescriptive advice would be
08:53:04.220 You don't hit her back
08:53:05.800 You gotta remove yourself from the situation
08:53:07.760 It's over
08:53:08.520 It's over because one, if you're in public
08:53:11.520 She hits you, you hit her back
08:53:13.280 There's going to be white knight simps who are going to
08:53:15.380 Fuck you up and then the cops are going to come
08:53:17.600 Even though she's the aggressor
08:53:18.980 You might end up getting arrested
08:53:21.340 As the man even though she's the one
08:53:23.720 Who struck you so for that reason
08:53:25.680 And just for the reason
08:53:27.660 Look you got you got fucking slapped you shouldn't
08:53:29.540 Hit back I don't know
08:53:31.520 No that was very much my situation
08:53:33.580 Like yeah I did hit my ex
08:53:35.540 And he got arrested so
08:53:37.280 Yeah
08:53:38.840 How about in a
08:53:40.020 Wait wait how about this in a genuine
08:53:42.980 So the woman slaps once
08:53:44.640 But there's not a continuing threat
08:53:46.140 Let's say there's a continuing threat from the woman
08:53:48.820 And now you're in a self-defense position
08:53:50.980 Can a man
08:53:52.820 Who's being assailed by a woman
08:53:54.800 Continuously
08:53:55.660 So the threat is persistent
08:53:57.400 Can he then fuck up a bitch
08:53:59.460 Yes he can
08:54:01.120 He can push her off
08:54:03.740 No that's not true
08:54:05.660 Legally speaking
08:54:07.760 Yeah he's going to go to jail
08:54:09.020 Legally speaking
08:54:10.220 You can knock a bitch out
08:54:12.180 Like, if she has a weapon and she's coming at you.
08:54:14.500 No, morally.
08:54:15.340 Yes, morally.
08:54:16.720 Morally, if a woman is assailing you.
08:54:18.220 Morally, you should knock a bitch out.
08:54:19.100 No.
08:54:19.400 If she's trying to kill you, that's the only reason.
08:54:22.080 Hold on.
08:54:22.580 If a woman is coming at you and you've made a determination like you're now self-defense.
08:54:27.500 But I feel like you should get out of that situation.
08:54:29.520 Get out of that situation.
08:54:30.260 There's not a duty.
08:54:31.720 California, there's not a duty to retreat.
08:54:34.900 If somebody's trying to punch you, you can punch them back.
08:54:37.800 There is a duty to retreat in California, actually.
08:54:39.840 No, there's not.
08:54:40.760 Wait, hold on.
08:54:41.240 It's not stand your ground in California.
08:54:43.220 No, it's California stand your ground.
08:54:46.040 Stand your ground.
08:54:46.900 They don't exactly have too strong of a...
08:54:48.980 You've got to mean stand your ground in your own house in California.
08:54:51.400 Yeah, exactly.
08:54:52.420 If a robber breaks in, you're supposed to run away upstairs.
08:54:55.540 And then call a social worker.
08:54:57.300 I'd have to look into it.
08:54:58.960 If you get into a gunfight with a robber and you shoot them in the front,
08:55:03.760 if they see bolt holes in the chest and not entering through the back,
08:55:07.260 you will be tried and prosecuted in the state of California for that.
08:55:10.080 Are you sure?
08:55:10.560 because it showed that they weren't trying sorry if the bullet holes were in their back
08:55:13.920 oh in the back if the bullet holes are in the back of a uh intruder you will be sent to jail
08:55:20.580 in the state of california there's no castle doctrine no i'm pretty sure there's castle
08:55:24.040 doctrine no california you don't have a duty to retreat i believe in california you do i mean
08:55:28.840 look it up of course okay okay i'll say i will say the only thing i would um except from what
08:55:34.440 i'm saying is like if she is pointing a gun at you or she has like a deadly weapon does california
08:55:39.360 have castle doctrine but how are you gonna slap a woman with a gun in her hand it's like that's
08:55:44.740 completely uneven you gotta use gotta slap you gotta use an equal amount of force for it to be
08:55:50.920 okay what happened you gotta use an equal amount of force for it to be okay that's just not an
08:55:54.680 equal it's kind of yeah so california does have castle doctrine but it's it's limited uh it says
08:56:02.980 you have the you have the right to use force including deadly force inside your home if
08:56:07.180 someone unlawfully and forcibly enters and you reasonably believe they pose an imminent threat
08:56:11.920 of death or serious bodily harm there is a legal presumption in your favor if an intruder breaks
08:56:17.580 into your home the the law generally assumes your fear was reasonable uh it applying it does apply
08:56:23.840 mainly to your residence not to your car workplace or public spaces okay that's crazy uh the force
08:56:29.920 used must still be reasonable under the circumstances it doesn't give unlimited okay stand
08:56:34.940 your ground okay that's i might have been wrong might have been wrong on the stand your ground
08:56:40.800 uh thing then but anyway i don't think it was wrong for me to have stayed with that guy there's
08:56:45.800 no explicit duty to retreat if you're somewhere you're legally allowed to be however self-defense
08:56:52.160 still hinges on reasonableness and necessity so anyways uh okay next topic then uh let me blast
08:56:57.560 through these uh dude let's see oh yeah i need to do that um okay uh the boyfriend strangled you
08:57:06.600 you got a guy banned from wing stop after give us the quick story um he'd had a crush on me for
08:57:13.580 eight years i eventually agreed to go on a date with him i did and then he started showing up at
08:57:21.260 my work all the time um he brought like his family in to meet me just like he was a little
08:57:27.460 bit delusional and my sister priest to marry you my sister was the manager she was my boss and so
08:57:33.220 i i told her about it as a joke and she was like send me his number and a picture of him
08:57:39.140 and i was like okay just kind of as my sister but apparently as my boss she went to the
08:57:45.180 district manager got him banned oh goodness okay uh you dated a guy named goose
08:57:50.320 this fuck this freaking guy he genuinely had this delusion that he was the only real person in the
08:58:00.080 world like he real we're in a simulation real honestly um how are you supposed to be in a
08:58:06.880 relationship like i i want to say that but he wasn't diagnosed so like whatever if you have
08:58:12.160 like no concept sorry i gotta move it on hannah um you got excommunicated from the lds church why
08:58:16.960 is that i did uh because in high school i was being intimate with my high school boyfriend but
08:58:22.760 that is not like on par for mormon culture at all that was like a very very weird like extreme
08:58:29.680 uh i think i'll be right back like was he also mormon no no but the bishop at the time was like
08:58:39.820 a high school teacher and i don't the whole thing was weird that's not normal it takes a lot in lds
08:58:46.380 culture to get excommunicated so it wasn't even it wasn't the fact that i was excommunicated it was
08:58:51.040 what was more hurtful was the things that people said or assumed because i was like people had
08:58:57.720 like made assumptions that i potentially was pregnant and had an abortion or things where i
08:59:01.960 was like i would never have like sarah stock stuff how they're like okay she cheated so she must have
08:59:06.340 an abortion or something yeah exactly where it just that was never the case but that's the thing
08:59:11.940 about those type of communities and i found it interesting when you said like oh you don't know
08:59:15.100 what reality is anymore and christianity and all of that jazz yeah it's like when you leave a high
08:59:19.460 thought control group not only does it make you super dependent on like the people around you but
08:59:24.840 you you don't feel real anymore you're just kind of like grasping at straws um but yeah i'm like
08:59:31.720 it's it's hard i was as i mentioned before i was raised jehovah's witness so i sympathize with
08:59:36.200 year they do excommunicate you if you end up really oh 100 they'll excommunicate you over
08:59:41.060 any little thing really um 100 um no in mormon church it's very hard to get your name i know
08:59:47.560 that's why they're very nice huh yeah mormons are very yeah they actually typically they they
08:59:51.840 really are they're my city of temeca there's like 20 percent mormon it's like it's like a little
08:59:55.240 utah it's part of the culture the mormon culture they kind of recruit you yeah they're always
08:59:59.440 smiling and stuff i mean it kind of works yeah i know honestly i got re-baptized though no but
09:00:05.160 That's the thing, to go back to the whole like Christian subject since it was broached before, like the reason people say Mormons aren't Christians, what's your concept of the Trinity in Mormonism again?
09:00:17.400 Like Christ is your big brother.
09:00:19.340 Oh, yeah, they're all separate.
09:00:20.980 Yeah, they're separate, but it's like a weird.
09:00:23.320 There's God, Jesus Christ, and then the Holy Ghost, and they're separate.
09:00:26.660 Yeah, that's not Christian.
09:00:28.140 Yeah.
09:00:28.840 That's technically heresy.
09:00:30.120 I had the same struggle with the Jehovah's Witnesses where I'm like, but it's Christian, it's Bible-based, but it's like they believe that Christ is not God, so it's not Christian.
09:00:36.720 Mormonism is not Bible-based.
09:00:37.780 But that's the thing, when you pervert it, immediately you start to see these bigger issues that come into play within those kind of high thought control groups.
09:00:44.200 They have to be high thought control to keep you in because it doesn't actually make sense when you're still within it, basically.
09:00:49.540 Wait, so what would it be then if it is the Church of Jesus Christ?
09:00:53.060 Well, when it comes to, I mean, I know what they call it.
09:00:55.860 It's like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
09:00:56.920 It's like, but we witnessed Jehovah.
09:00:58.440 But when it comes to, like, the Mormons, I don't know what heresies they were based off of.
09:01:03.280 I know that they had, like, the belief that, you know, America is, like, Egypt, and, like, the whole Garden of Eden, I think, is in Florida.
09:01:10.660 Missouri.
09:01:11.260 Oh, Missouri.
09:01:11.800 Supposedly Garden of Eden was in Missouri.
09:01:12.720 Like, there's reasons why they think that way.
09:01:14.160 Same thing with the Jehovah's Witnesses.
09:01:15.160 They believed in a bunch of pyramidology, and that's how they got into their conclusions.
09:01:18.900 But, yeah, it's all just paganism.
09:01:20.020 And they also believed in, like, modern-day revelation, which is not, like, typically a Christian thing to have somebody, you know, interpret it.
09:01:28.020 1800s and however it'd be like, I have received word from God.
09:01:32.420 Honestly, I would argue when it comes to modern dating, it was ruined in the 1800s by these
09:01:36.540 subgroups.
09:01:39.880 Hannah, you disagree with Brian about alimony.
09:01:44.100 Why is that? What? You wrote in your notes, disagree with
09:01:48.100 Brian about alimony.
09:01:51.680 Didn't you say before you don't think that men should pay alimony?
09:01:55.940 So you maybe saw an episode where there, I think it was last weekend, a woman was on the show and she had been married to this guy for 10 years, 10 plus years.
09:02:07.100 And then she had been split from him for 10 plus years.
09:02:11.360 He still is paying her alimony.
09:02:14.540 Well, yeah, I think that's ridiculous.
09:02:16.800 Kids?
09:02:18.900 Her kids are, if I recall, both adults.
09:02:21.980 So he was also paying her child support, but that's subsided.
09:02:26.000 But he's going to have to pay her alimony for life.
09:02:28.860 That's wrong.
09:02:29.920 Yeah.
09:02:30.340 Usually they do alimony, like I was married for eight years.
09:02:33.400 They'll typically do at least like half, like four years.
09:02:36.920 My understanding, though, and it obviously varies by state, is in California and perhaps other states, once you get past 10 years, you can get into lifetime alimony.
09:02:48.040 so and with that can i also add i had a friend who when i was living here his wife cheated on him
09:02:54.080 with the literal pool boy literally and he like was like i'm gonna kick her out he took her in
09:03:00.000 even he's like i don't want to kick her out like she's got nothing she's got nowhere to go so he
09:03:03.820 ends up raising this kid that's not his for two years and he knew it wasn't his because he had
09:03:07.460 gotten fixed and they'd gotten it tested and stuff and um then they broke up and because she just
09:03:13.700 wouldn't stop cheating on him and then california stuck him with the child support bill because
09:03:18.220 two or more years if you're raising someone's kid in california you are stuck with the child
09:03:23.120 support bill wait so it's not his kid not his kid they let him know he thought it was but he
09:03:28.120 committed he committed to raising that kid at that point so i'm like but she didn't wait just
09:03:32.400 to be clear she tricked him she cheated on him with a pool boy they had a pool a literal pool
09:03:37.820 boy and he was like being a nicer person he didn't want to kick her out he'd like you know
09:03:42.760 because she was pregnant. That was his wife. He was stupid. Two years later, she continued to cheat.
09:03:47.720 He said, get out of here. And then she took him to court, $5,000 a month he had to pay. And then
09:03:52.460 they let him move to another state. So he didn't get to see this kid either. Well, this is definitely
09:03:57.200 something that happens. So even if the kid's not biologically yours, but you are bamboozled and
09:04:04.980 the woman cheated and you were acting as if you were the father, then yeah, you can be on the hook
09:04:11.320 for child support for a kid that isn't even yours that is ridiculous um i don't think that that
09:04:19.140 should be the case they have to change the laws uh child support laws are very anti uh male at
09:04:26.160 least in that regard um that was in california okay but alimony um i think you could maybe make
09:04:32.920 an argument that like if the woman uh gave up her career i feel like i did that like i like how my
09:04:40.500 next husband get through special forces and like I did all my nursing prereqs with kids and I was
09:04:45.120 like okay it's not realistic to have a husband that is gone all the time in trainings and then
09:04:50.040 I like I want to be at home with my kids so I definitely feel like I put myself on the back
09:04:55.260 burner to support him and then I felt like in the end it did screw me over a little bit a lot of it
09:05:00.500 yeah I mean I think that there's some compelling arguments as to alimony but there should be a
09:05:07.500 limited scope of it i agree so i don't think in any scenario stepping stone to help them yeah i
09:05:13.400 i don't think like i three three years ought to be the max like i don't i i don't see beyond three
09:05:22.340 years okay you've been separated for this amount of time i can't understand a reason why you need
09:05:28.600 to have some perpetual financial obligation to a woman like should i should should men get like
09:05:36.060 one blow job a month from her no because it's forever oh we've been but hold on as a man it's
09:05:43.540 you know once i'm in my 40s it's harder for me to get blow jobs you know it's harder to date as a
09:05:50.340 man once you're older and i i don't have as much access to bjs you know so maybe once a month you
09:05:57.080 know she could give a blowy well no because i think if you've been married let's say like 10
09:06:00.980 15 years you're developing like a skill set as a man or you're getting education so like you're
09:06:05.940 able to make significantly more money so i think to just be like okay well you just put 15 years
09:06:12.600 of your life or however long i'm just saying you know on the side but this is now i'm gonna give
09:06:17.900 you three years to make up for that i think three years is totally fine that should be enough for
09:06:21.540 somebody to get back on their feet but um this assumes that all women who get married are genius
09:06:28.400 iq women that that had they not gotten married they would have invented a bill they would have
09:06:34.500 had a billion dollar idea and they would have been the CEO of the company or could it be that
09:06:41.420 a woman was a waitress when you met her and her life circumstances probably would not have changed
09:06:47.340 substantially had you not married her from my perspective this woman if you've been married
09:06:51.960 to her for 10 years who was a waitress when you met her she actually her life circumstances have
09:06:58.620 she didn't have to pay rent for the entire time that seems like quite quite a uh privilege quite
09:07:06.420 the benefit that she received she didn't have to pay for anything during this entire time
09:07:10.200 well she can go right back to being a waitress where she like she can go right back to doing
09:07:16.860 what she was doing or say she's a hairdresser okay you didn't do hair okay you didn't do
09:07:22.380 hairdressing here's three years of alimony should you get 20 years of alimony that's ridiculous
09:07:27.980 Well, to reverse engineer the argument, I mean, the same can be said for women who delay settling down in their 20s and then want to settle down in their 30s or 40s, where it's like you don't have pity or remorse for a woman who can't get a good man at that age.
09:07:39.540 Likewise, if a man ends up throwing away a marriage, as happened in Hannah's case, it's like, well, he doesn't get pity or sympathy for having thrown away something where she invested her youth into him, she committed to him, and he wanted to just find something else, basically.
09:07:53.940 So if a woman is pursuing in her 20s
09:07:56.520 A billionaire and never gets it
09:07:58.500 And then grows old no one has pity for her
09:08:00.860 Likewise if a man took
09:08:02.420 Advantage of a woman's youth who committed to him
09:08:04.540 How is it taking advantage of a woman's youth
09:08:06.720 Well if you if she gave you children
09:08:08.760 She committed herself to you
09:08:10.200 It's a beautiful thing that's not taking advantage
09:08:12.480 But then why would you throw it away
09:08:14.020 When you already like have a career
09:08:16.300 You're already successful you're already stabilized
09:08:17.800 She should enjoy the fruits that she grew with you
09:08:20.160 It's a joint effort
09:08:21.480 yeah that's why women want the the security of marriage yeah uh so i mean if the if you want us
09:08:28.860 to be submissive and like like in that sense like for real and like be the wife that can like stay
09:08:35.020 at home take care of the things take care of the kids and help you further your career i think it's
09:08:39.540 fair to say hey if something goes awry i think you should help me get back on my feet on top of
09:08:44.700 that if someone breaks a contract of marriage you should be penalized for having broken that
09:08:49.120 contract whether it's the man or a woman well hold on um some states i don't recall perhaps
09:08:54.040 all the details hannah so your ex-husband you were married correct yeah and he cheated on you
09:08:59.940 or what happened there there's just a lot of substance abuse like when i left you were using
09:09:04.320 substance or him no him when i left our electricity was getting turned off our phones were getting
09:09:10.720 shut off so i went instead of my best friend's mom and then my aunt drove out paid for the gas
09:09:15.060 to get out to utah well in this case he it seems like he doesn't have any money to pay alimony
09:09:19.180 anyways is that yeah i mean or he's not in a good financial position asking well yes um but again i
09:09:26.860 still think three years is more than enough time but i mean uh angelica if a woman say the woman
09:09:33.620 is the cause of the breakup of the relationship say she cheats the current uh legal landscape
09:09:40.160 the man still has to pay her alimony i know still has to pay her money i don't agree and that's
09:09:45.020 Exactly. I know. One of my best friends that just happened to them, there were two couples
09:09:49.260 and they were all friends and the couples like had an affair. It's evil. And she, she, he ended
09:09:55.680 up still having to pay her out, give her alimony, give her child support. And I feel like he got
09:09:59.120 screwed in that situation. Evil. But I do think though, if a woman say prior to entering the
09:10:04.020 marriage, say she wasn't on some pathway to becoming some major CEO and she was living
09:10:09.840 paycheck to paycheck working a minimum wage job you divorce her she divorces you it's a return to
09:10:17.640 one's previous standing um but who so uh the pizza place is closed but i i have bagel bites who wants
09:10:25.260 some bagel bites i got i made some bagel bites okay and there's two more in the freezer if anybody
09:10:32.140 i mean there's only like nine in the package are they gluten-free just kidding i'm just kidding
09:10:36.040 what's that he said are they gluten probably not um okay your most memorable dating uh the largest
09:10:42.960 home developer in utah he was 25 years old he managed to keep 25 years older oh excuse me
09:10:47.980 you're excuse me uh he was 25 years older than you age gap he managed to keep you under wraps
09:10:55.560 for a year and a half you were building a home together and it was just a couple months from
09:10:58.820 being finished after one and a half years you finally met his youngest daughter who was 18 at
09:11:03.040 the time with your two kids the next day you got a butt dial from him with another woman
09:11:08.000 yeah that was really hard damn and you recorded the convo yeah and it went viral
09:11:15.300 yeah it was pretty crazy wait he so it was a like a voicemail he was leaving it was in a car
09:11:23.400 with another woman and i like kind of by the grace of god my little sister was actually visiting and
09:11:29.160 And so I thought it was like maybe an employee or a realtor that he was talking to.
09:11:33.620 And then based on all the things he was saying, like, let me see your panties.
09:11:37.240 I was like, oh, no, that's not an employee.
09:11:39.840 So I told my little sister.
09:11:40.960 I was like, Elizabeth, give me your phone.
09:11:42.120 Give me your phone.
09:11:42.660 So I recorded it.
09:11:44.280 And then he got out of the car.
09:11:46.180 That was a godsend.
09:11:47.160 Literally within two seconds of hanging up, gives me a call.
09:11:51.220 And then just, I was like, how long ago?
09:11:53.980 Yeah, what age were you when you started dating him?
09:11:56.720 It was a year and a half ago it ended.
09:11:58.380 so what am I 33 like I think it was I remember I just had turned 30 and he was like he made
09:12:04.380 comments like it just sounds better that you're 30 just sounds better you're 30 I had I know this
09:12:09.020 is like crazy I had zero interest in dating him because of the age gap I've always been drawn to
09:12:13.160 like a little bit older just because of maturity wise especially with being married for eight years
09:12:16.720 having two kids like I don't like see myself marrying a 22 year old right but I he definitely
09:12:24.060 when I say like grooming it very much felt like grooming where he definitely latched onto my
09:12:28.640 situation full-time single mom definitely flexed his job and stability and we became just friends
09:12:36.400 like I know it sounds so weird but we he would literally ask me to meet in Maverick parking lot
09:12:40.580 we just talked for hours he wasn't trying to be your friend well I know this hold on let me just
09:12:45.760 put in a work okay what what age were you when you started date uh when you met him I I think
09:12:51.520 I was 29 and then I had turned 30. What age was he? He was what? He was 56 I want to say.
09:12:57.540 56 okay so 25 years and you said it was borderline grooming I mean you're 30 years 30 years old I
09:13:03.520 don't think. No no I get but I just mean like. This is grooming. I mean like in the sense that
09:13:08.660 I think he took advantage of my situation and knew what he was doing and I was in this like
09:13:12.940 oh I like talking to this guy. Wouldn't you be taking advantage of your situation having better
09:13:17.820 looks only being 29 years old like you can look at it from the other way around though i mean
09:13:22.300 financially wait he was taking advantage of you financially in a very unfortunate financial
09:13:27.620 position with my kids wait did you move in together with him no were you living with him
09:13:32.460 was it no oh okay no but he wait can we distribute the bagel bites who wants a bagel bite show of
09:13:39.600 hands and we're gonna have to probably do all of them maybe we can make more more of a batch
09:13:45.020 okay you are you're each gonna get i think like one right now but we have like count me out we
09:13:49.980 have more we have more okay uh joy you don't use dating apps you meet everyone organically in a
09:13:54.900 grocery store work hobbies you met your ex at work and it was a great two years until it wasn't
09:14:00.420 wait scoot into the table scoot into the table let me blast through this this is your one
09:14:05.160 uh yeah yeah that was it okay you meet that was that was my uh first boyfriend but when you say
09:14:13.180 you meet everyone organically do they come up to you or do you go up to them um i only went up to
09:14:19.280 two guys um did you eat all the bagel bites oh well before we start a new one while we distribute
09:14:26.580 what we have please uh which is like seven bagels bites okay so do you go up to them or do they go
09:14:35.380 up to you my last boyfriend no um I liked him but he always looked like strange like just kind of
09:14:43.920 walking around like he just wasn't into anybody so I asked his friend to kind of ask him to hit
09:14:49.200 me up or tell his friend that I liked him type deal like just put it put it on the plate and
09:14:54.740 just bring the plate over and then yeah just all of them just and we'll pass around the plate
09:15:03.340 He's, like, interrupting you about the bagel bites.
09:15:05.220 Did you say, like, a joint?
09:15:06.300 Yeah.
09:15:06.780 I think Brian is hangry right now.
09:15:09.800 Bring the bagel bites.
09:15:10.740 No, I'm not going to have any.
09:15:13.380 I'm not going to have any.
09:15:14.080 It's all for you guys.
09:15:14.780 Wait, did you say joint?
09:15:15.720 Are we allowed to do that here, or is this not the Howard Stern show?
09:15:18.280 Oh, my God.
09:15:19.000 What?
09:15:19.380 No, I was saying I told him to put the bagel bites on a plate,
09:15:23.240 and then we'll pass it around the plate with the bagel bites like a joint.
09:15:29.460 Oh, okay.
09:15:30.280 why is the bagel bite situation so complicated right now i'm just um okay do you smoke weed
09:15:37.940 yeah here just pass it to shona she'll pass them around all right well we have like a bunch more
09:15:45.020 packages so we'll open up more i know it seems like poverty right now it's like we're fucking
09:15:50.220 i feel like i'm in a trailer in arkansas what is yeah yeah what is the uh we're rationing
09:15:58.080 fucking... Yo, this is what we do
09:15:59.980 at the whatever podcast studio.
09:16:01.780 We're rationing fucking... Wait, really?
09:16:05.200 Oh, then pass it
09:16:06.120 back because she wants more...
09:16:07.620 We're rationing pizza bagel bites
09:16:10.000 that aren't even heated up.
09:16:11.660 Wait, they're not hot? No.
09:16:13.640 Wait, they're not hot? The cheese isn't even melted.
09:16:15.900 No, it's warm enough. Are they hot?
09:16:17.460 This way, this way, this way. I microwaved it for the appropriate...
09:16:20.940 It's like warm.
09:16:22.060 Like, not hot, but... I microwaved it for
09:16:24.000 like the suggested...
09:16:26.020 Any objections if I eat all three of these?
09:16:27.580 No, that was a terrible pass.
09:16:29.000 They went from there to there.
09:16:30.240 We skipped the rotation.
09:16:31.880 Go ahead, take a moment.
09:16:32.480 Woke it up, bro.
09:16:33.400 Okay, Anna.
09:16:34.980 I brought mine.
09:16:36.100 Anna, you say if a man is cheap and it has the, she's just trying to mooch off of me mentality,
09:16:41.080 it's immediate no for you.
09:16:42.260 That's not a man.
09:16:42.960 If you can't afford to date, then just say it.
09:16:44.820 You're an independent woman, but you want to provide her, not a leech.
09:16:48.360 Yes.
09:16:50.000 You're an independent woman, but you want to provide.
09:16:53.520 Can you say that in your own terms?
09:16:55.180 Can you just say that sentence?
09:16:56.540 oh simplified that ghost don't stop stop sorry sorry um because i want i want a man
09:17:04.780 to provide i've been used wait say what i'm an independent woman i'm an independent woman
09:17:11.600 i am but going into a relationship i would like my man to provide or at least being able to not
09:17:20.060 leech off of me and provide for himself okay that's different but uh typically a provider
09:17:24.320 that somebody is providing for you,
09:17:26.020 if you're an independent woman,
09:17:27.840 you would thus be dependent on the provider man.
09:17:32.000 Well, I guess technically-
09:17:33.000 Not really, because I could, like I said earlier,
09:17:35.180 I literally have just dumped guys because I don't need them.
09:17:38.020 So that's not true.
09:17:38.820 Technically, you could be an independent woman,
09:17:40.740 but it is more beneficial for the man to spend all his money.
09:17:45.360 For your benefits, technically, yes.
09:17:47.560 I literally said that I would pay for dates
09:17:49.300 once we get into the relationship.
09:17:51.560 If I make seven figures a year,
09:17:52.820 it would be more beneficial for me to like date a woman who makes 10 like uh 10 million dollars a
09:17:59.080 year and she pays for everything like that i'm still technically have the capacity for independence
09:18:04.580 but she should pay for the shit okay i get it you dated a craigslist killer in san diego
09:18:10.120 what uh you didn't know he was a craigslist killer until you saw his mugshot on facebook pop up so
09:18:17.640 when you met him he was on bail and you had no idea he just disappeared and then one day his
09:18:22.040 mugshot popped up.
09:18:25.060 Run me! Run me!
09:18:26.740 So it was like, did you smash?
09:18:28.740 No.
09:18:29.560 It was a one-time date?
09:18:31.720 No, no, no.
09:18:33.420 Were you his body?
09:18:35.140 No, so we met at a brewery.
09:18:37.640 He was actually studying. He said he was in med school.
09:18:39.580 This was like 12 years ago.
09:18:41.060 He said he was in med school.
09:18:41.660 He was studying his victims?
09:18:43.480 Literally.
09:18:43.980 You went on one date with him?
09:18:48.060 No, we kind of hung out.
09:18:49.180 We weren't in a dating series, but we were talking
09:18:51.440 you know what I mean and like kind of getting to know each other okay and then he had this really
09:18:56.060 weird obsession with cuckolding very weird okay what is cuckolding uh what like wanting to see
09:19:02.880 your girl get fucked by another guy yeah and so that's when I was like I'm done with this guy and
09:19:06.900 I like backed off because it was just so all of a sudden like we would he would like message me
09:19:13.160 on snapchat and I would be nice and respond but I stopped hanging out with him because of it okay
09:19:17.280 well that's the scariest part about the cuckolding thing because when his mug shop and i it was the
09:19:23.220 longest article of my life he um was in search of a cuckolding situation in on craigslist and they
09:19:31.040 were actually trying to tie him to other craigslist killings not just this one and as the story goes
09:19:36.600 he was trying to find a cuckold on craigslist and he found this man who wasn't like a trans woman
09:19:44.120 He literally called himself a cross-dresser.
09:19:46.420 He was literally a man in a wig.
09:19:48.540 Pretended to be a couple talking to him.
09:19:51.240 Well, he finally confessed and said, hey, I'm actually not this couple.
09:19:54.260 It's just me.
09:19:54.980 I'm a man that likes to dress up like women.
09:19:57.580 He stopped talking to him.
09:19:58.820 Two days later, he said, I'll do anything.
09:20:01.340 I want my fantasy.
09:20:03.220 And he went over there and murdered that man in a wig.
09:20:07.800 Blood print.
09:20:08.640 This is what gets me.
09:20:10.180 This is what gets me.
09:20:11.260 blood print his blood his fingerprints with blood were everywhere and for some reason the state of
09:20:16.080 california let him out on bail he was on a bill for five years in prison no no he is that's that's
09:20:21.020 somebody else but he didn't do this while i met him he did it five years previously and he's out
09:20:26.020 on bail for five years like looking for cuckolding situations that's terrifying uh okay you once went
09:20:31.540 on a three-year sabbatical from dating so no touching no kissing anything with men and then
09:20:36.180 And the year that you started dating, every date back to back to back was wild, including one time you were at the guy's house.
09:20:42.820 And a girl started pounding on his door, and he instantly pretended to fall asleep.
09:20:46.900 And then she kicked the door down.
09:20:48.920 Yes.
09:20:49.740 That was my first date after not touching a man for three years, by the way.
09:20:53.040 And wait, so on the three-year dating sabbatical, so you were celibate during that period of time.
09:20:59.080 During the three years, you were totally celibate.
09:21:02.120 Is that correct?
09:21:02.620 Yep, totally.
09:21:03.280 Like, wouldn't even, like, handshake a man.
09:21:05.320 Nothing.
09:21:05.920 Nothing.
09:21:06.180 All right, look at that.
09:21:06.760 We got more fucking bagel bites.
09:21:08.120 We can pass it around.
09:21:09.200 The cheese isn't melted, Brian.
09:21:10.960 It's not?
09:21:11.760 What is this, a trailer park?
09:21:13.760 We fucking...
09:21:15.200 This one's hotter.
09:21:16.120 It's hotter?
09:21:16.700 We put it in for the designated amount of time, so I don't know.
09:21:20.420 Maybe that's some fucking mutant.
09:21:22.380 That's some mutant fucking cheese.
09:21:24.780 Hey, those are good, though.
09:21:25.560 I did have those.
09:21:26.320 They're fucking yummy.
09:21:27.580 They're grub.
09:21:28.260 Okay, so the three-year dating sabbatical.
09:21:31.480 I don't want any.
09:21:33.340 Back that way.
09:21:34.260 You were just blazing.
09:21:35.480 No, I don't want any.
09:21:36.900 It's for you guys.
09:21:37.940 I'm good.
09:21:39.160 I eat kosher.
09:21:40.580 Any of you guys?
09:21:41.040 But eat the food.
09:21:41.560 I don't think any of us are eating any.
09:21:43.960 Okay, go ahead, Shona.
09:21:45.380 They're all for you.
09:21:46.340 Go ahead.
09:21:46.760 Pig out.
09:21:47.340 Pig out.
09:21:48.360 Okay, the three-year dating sabbatical.
09:21:51.400 You were totally celibate, correct?
09:21:52.900 Yeah.
09:21:53.980 What was the turning point to stopping your sabbatical?
09:21:57.480 Well, I didn't have sex with this guy.
09:21:59.440 I just started dating.
09:22:00.800 When I say sabbatical, I didn't go on dates.
09:22:02.480 I didn't talk to guys.
09:22:03.380 I didn't go on dating apps.
09:22:04.240 You had no sex for three years.
09:22:05.920 For three years.
09:22:06.420 Yeah, yeah, nothing.
09:22:07.200 So these are just dates.
09:22:08.420 These are like my first dates.
09:22:09.580 This was like getting myself back into the dating scene.
09:22:12.040 Wait, so when did it start?
09:22:13.900 What year did it start?
09:22:14.940 21.
09:22:16.060 Okay, so that's like five years ago.
09:22:19.420 To 24.
09:22:20.360 You broke your streak, though.
09:22:22.820 For a guy I was dating that I knew for over a year, yeah.
09:22:25.680 Can I ask you a question?
09:22:28.220 Wait, let me think.
09:22:29.300 uh how quickly did you uh wait for the guy you broke your streak with
09:22:38.100 i think like a year year and a half whoa whoa wait hold on we were friends first we met as
09:22:45.800 friends and then like one day he confessed his love okay yeah so after he confessed after he
09:22:50.800 confessed his love how soon after that did you guys have cardinal knowledge
09:22:55.480 uh a couple weeks but i like i said we'd been hanging out for like 18 months getting to know
09:23:04.560 each other he wasn't a random guy you knew him yeah like i trusted him because he was like my
09:23:08.420 friend first kind of thing but during the sabbatical was there any dating like were you
09:23:14.220 hanging out with men but you're like okay i wasn't even on dating apps no i didn't even hug
09:23:19.520 shake hands like i'm actually like that now i'm not dating either uh okay and then prior
09:23:25.420 to damn she's munching down on this okay get it girl ASMR I was thinking like how much would it
09:23:35.620 suck though like let's say you were dating during that celibacy period so you're still dating but
09:23:39.800 not sleeping with any of the men and some guy like was like I'm gonna hold out I'm gonna wait
09:23:44.660 six months and then like you break and then you decide to break your celibacy and then you just
09:23:50.060 like fuck a guy right away like how fucking terrible would it be if uh like a woman tells
09:23:56.800 you she's been celibate for three for three years she's not doing anything and then you've been
09:24:00.700 dating her for three months she breaks up with you she decides to end her celibacy streak and
09:24:05.480 then she fucks a guy a week later not saying you did that no i like i said this guy was my friend
09:24:11.140 yeah holy fuck okay i actually dumped him like it was like we were like really good friends and
09:24:17.340 then we dated for like two weeks and then i dumped him like he just wasn't i wasn't he was not he was
09:24:22.220 a good friend he was a horrible guy like an australian a famous australian dude yeah who
09:24:27.740 can you say who or uh well he was a australian like kind of like the justin timberlake of the
09:24:33.140 mickey mouse club he was a childhood movie star yeah yeah well my australian friends were like
09:24:37.760 you used to date him we used to watch his show growing up it was like the mickey mouse club of
09:24:41.000 australia they're gonna figure out who it is um his name is matt healy hi matt oh shit wait let
09:24:46.260 was he somebody that you used to know yeah but we met at an intersection in san diego and like
09:24:53.920 one of those things where we were like wait hey you come here he's australian he was aussie yeah
09:24:59.640 and so my aussie friends were like he used to date him like we used to watch his show
09:25:02.480 no it was a it was like it was like the mickey mouse club of australia you're gonna have to look
09:25:07.660 like back into the 90s that's i think that's what i was thinking was the musician
09:25:11.740 uh yeah he wasn't shit we can't find them well australian all my australian friends
09:25:20.680 all of my australian friends were like you dated him we used to like watch his show growing up
09:25:27.720 that's hilarious was he about your age or yeah okay whatever um i don't need to look it up but
09:25:32.740 you said he whisked you whisked you around the world for a year and that was pretty romantic
09:25:39.060 Yeah, so we saw each other at an intersection in San Diego.
09:25:42.660 We pulled an all-nighter, not in the sex sense,
09:25:45.080 just we hung out until like 3 in the morning,
09:25:46.800 and then he was flying off to Dallas.
09:25:48.580 He got my number.
09:25:49.520 We started talking morning, noon, and night.
09:25:51.380 Three months later, he wanted to come to California.
09:25:54.580 I was living in California at the time.
09:25:56.120 He wanted to come.
09:25:57.700 I said no because this is ridiculous.
09:26:00.300 Like, I have two kids.
09:26:01.240 I live here.
09:26:01.740 You live there, et cetera.
09:26:03.100 Two days later, knock on my door.
09:26:05.020 There he is.
09:26:05.660 and he took me like lavishly all around san diego for new year's and then he said i have a surprise
09:26:11.900 for you now new year's is december 31st my birthday is january 10th he said i'm gonna go
09:26:17.060 back to australia and in a couple weeks you are meeting me in hawaii and we went on a two-week
09:26:21.820 trip lavish trip to hawaii like all over and then like six months later he's like we he's like i
09:26:29.440 either want to move to america or i want you to come to australia but i think i'm gonna move to
09:26:33.920 america but i want you to meet my family so i bought a ticket which was two thousand dollars
09:26:39.760 because i wanted to show him that like i was serious about this and he had been paying for
09:26:44.300 like everything so i bought a ticket took time off work you know got the kids arranged etc etc
09:26:49.980 and like a week before the trip he's like don't come here anymore and like drops off the face of
09:26:54.840 the earth well at the time i was working for this really wealthy family i was a nanny at the time
09:26:59.460 and they were like fuck that dude you're like family to us i'm sending my wife with you and
09:27:04.280 i'm paying for everything and so we ended up going over there and like climbing the sydney
09:27:08.940 harbor bridge like going to airs rock in the middle of the outback um and he said my boss
09:27:14.920 said to me why the fuck i'm sorry what you know sometimes like sometimes women will like include
09:27:20.440 irrelevant information in a story sorry go ahead sorry sorry did i just say well i'm not done you're
09:27:26.100 cutting me off. Did I just say that? You're not done?
09:27:29.700 This is like
09:27:30.480 hiking in the Outback.
09:27:34.320 I'm just saying. I don't know if we
09:27:35.820 need that information.
09:27:38.100 But okay. He took you to Hawaii?
09:27:41.600 Sorry, I'm being
09:27:42.180 sassy. I apologize. I'm a dickhead.
09:27:44.180 Well, there was a point to that
09:27:45.740 for me saying all this.
09:27:47.480 Land the plane. Land the plane. I apologize.
09:27:49.400 He then sees that I'm in Australia.
09:27:52.000 He had no idea that I was going to still come
09:27:53.900 because he told me not to come.
09:27:55.180 and he begs me to see him.
09:27:57.280 I hate it when my girlfriend says that.
09:27:58.960 What?
09:27:59.620 Don't come.
09:28:00.340 Oh my God.
09:28:01.440 Just let it happen.
09:28:03.580 Shit.
09:28:05.540 Okay, sorry.
09:28:07.100 Bad joke.
09:28:08.660 Bad joke.
09:28:09.220 Oh, she's snorting over here.
09:28:11.180 Oh my goodness.
09:28:14.100 You okay, Angelica?
09:28:15.660 I'm fine.
09:28:16.500 You good?
09:28:16.980 All right.
09:28:17.480 She's good.
09:28:18.580 Oh, that was good.
09:28:21.040 So, what else happened in Australia?
09:28:23.400 So anyways, my boss said, if you leave my wife for this guy, even if it's for a few hours, I'm going to fire you.
09:28:30.920 So she left a week before I did.
09:28:33.000 And then that's when he and I got together.
09:28:34.880 I just needed closure, to be honest with you.
09:28:36.700 He wanted sex.
09:28:37.660 I turned him down.
09:28:38.440 You need to close your paragraph.
09:28:40.420 He got pissed, took me to the airport, and just started bawling his eyes out and said I was the love of his life.
09:28:46.040 And I just got back on a plane and went home.
09:28:49.600 Angelica, scooting to the table.
09:28:50.860 is there edibles in these bagel bites yes they are uh weed infused bagel bites
09:28:57.540 man that's a good that's crazy though i feel like after dating him i how do you do you find
09:29:05.900 it difficult to date normal guys i don't didn't give you that princess treatment i feel like
09:29:10.540 if a girl like okay i feel like there's a degree of when it comes to dating like let's say you date
09:29:16.240 a really rich guy maybe there's a bit of a not culture shock but there's a shock to like you go
09:29:22.340 from dating like a super wealthy guy who jets you around and he buys you gifts and he takes you to
09:29:27.320 all these nice restaurants and he does xyz and then you go date the guy who works at walmart
09:29:32.200 it's like that's a bit of a culture shock like it's a bit of a like i don't know if i was dating
09:29:37.820 um a hot chick and then i dated a fat chick
09:29:42.300 it's how do you go back how do you go back it's like it's like how about this you date a uh you
09:29:51.680 a woman dates a guy who lives in a dorm room maybe you guys went to college you you went to the dorm
09:29:57.380 room and this fucking you got to put a sock on the door or whatever you got to be like you got
09:30:01.540 and sometimes let's be honest ladies have you ever fucked while your roommate was in the room
09:30:10.420 really nobody's done that why she's smiling this is a college thing this is a definitely
09:30:19.320 college thing especially if you're in like a dorm but like that's not right come on now
09:30:23.280 no like you should try but like it definitely happens like i don't know at least from back
09:30:28.740 in the day people i don't know what friends you have right yeah i think it's a guy thing
09:30:32.740 but then it's like imagine no but imagine you're like either a guy or a girl and you used to like
09:30:39.700 have to fucking sneak around and shit to fuck and uh there was like your fucking roommates passed
09:30:45.540 like sleeping in the room while you're quietly trying to fuck in a bunk bed in a triple bunk bed
09:30:51.440 and then it's like then you date a guy or a woman they have their own house
09:30:59.820 that's like fucking and then how can you go back to like from that or even if you're just living
09:31:07.460 you're living in a house you have your own house how do you go back to living sharing a room with
09:31:12.240 somebody you can't you can't do it so like in that same thing how do you get flown around and
09:31:18.500 some guy takes you to Hawaii how do you go back to like well because I went back to doing it for
09:31:24.120 myself take you to McDonald's for our anniversary how do you go back it's kind of like you know what
09:31:30.500 it's kind of like sex you know what I'm talking about Hannah what what what's that supposed to
09:31:35.860 mean no well nothing but you know it's like sex it's like once you've had really good sex
09:31:40.560 how do you go back Hannah and Emily and everybody no I'm not picking on you I'm just trying to draw
09:31:48.400 you guys in and get your attention uh how do you go back to bad sex once you've had good sex it's
09:31:54.400 like that's the bar for what you want and it's like if you go back it's like like once you've
09:32:01.000 had a really good hamburger i saved the best for last once you have a really good hamburger
09:32:09.680 really good steak and then you're gonna like have like a denny's steak or like a denny's burger it's
09:32:14.740 like oh fuck so it's like um it depends like once you've had a giant labia it's like how do you go
09:32:20.040 back to like a woman with like an any it's just you're fucked you're giga or like no no no how
09:32:24.800 about this a woman who sorry am i being autistic right now how once you've once you've had sex
09:32:30.860 with a woman who's multi-orgasmic and can come like i'm not even exaggerating like five seconds
09:32:37.960 10 seconds later 10 seconds later and then you gotta go back and have sex with a woman
09:32:43.800 where it's like, you gotta
09:32:45.540 her clitoris is a fucking
09:32:47.940 Rubik's Cube. Like, how do you go
09:32:49.860 back from, like, the girl who
09:32:51.880 comes like this, easy
09:32:53.720 to the girl who it's
09:32:55.920 like, bro, you gotta
09:32:57.140 do somersaults and, like,
09:32:59.680 you gotta, you know what, like,
09:33:01.760 how do you go back to, like, fucking the girl
09:33:03.880 who can't come? Sometimes it's necessity.
09:33:06.060 How do you go back to fucking the girl who can't
09:33:07.960 come once you've done dealt with a girl
09:33:09.860 who's just like,
09:33:11.880 oh my...
09:33:12.880 who's just fucking coming like crazy sometimes or so you think and so you throw those out the
09:33:20.440 window okay anyways someone's definitely lied to you final final note from my home girl over
09:33:25.520 there in the corner my my labia plasty queen and by the way i'm just curious on the labia plasty
09:33:32.740 is there is there some remain did they leave a little bit or is it they just made it they made
09:33:38.360 But there's a bit of lip left.
09:33:42.000 Inside the lip.
09:33:44.100 Wait, you want the inner lips?
09:33:45.320 So maybe am I normal?
09:33:46.680 Yes.
09:33:47.300 You do?
09:33:48.400 Yeah.
09:33:49.060 What?
09:33:49.680 Yeah.
09:33:50.940 This is what we've been talking about this whole time.
09:33:53.740 Is that what you have?
09:33:54.460 Thick.
09:33:54.920 No, hell no.
09:33:56.140 Oh, okay.
09:33:57.620 But mine only came after I had a child.
09:34:00.320 I didn't have it before.
09:34:01.300 The inner labia, correct.
09:34:01.700 The lips.
09:34:03.380 Like a butterfly wing.
09:34:05.920 Like an Arby's.
09:34:08.360 butterfly wings help me understand yes arby's help you understand it
09:34:14.380 does it really affect the sexual performance like in the act does it really really matter
09:34:20.040 for you like does it feel better what what is it you do you guys want the answer yeah the answer
09:34:24.400 so it is visual but also physically it feels better for you are you like actually dead ass
09:34:30.000 about this whole i'm so fucking it's like lipstick grip so okay look by the way if a
09:34:38.060 wouldn't an innie group better because it's like not necessarily you're like weird uh an innie so
09:34:42.780 okay an innie is not a deal breaker i'll still date a woman with an innie i'm a gentleman i'll
09:34:48.240 i'm nice like you're the only man you know what there are some other men who also have this uh
09:34:55.360 liking of like probably bisexual i've actually never heard of this in my life bro oh my god
09:35:01.200 back in my day we call that beef curtains yeah you want to like a woman equivalent to a woman
09:35:06.300 saying she legitimately likes a small dick no a circumcised oh like small wait women do prefer
09:35:12.860 circumcised yeah oh no sorry i don't care sorry oh yeah yeah sure that's fair that's fair i think
09:35:18.720 i think most women prefer circumcised yeah but there's probably definitely women out there who
09:35:23.740 well i think this would be somewhat geographic because like in europe a lot of european countries
09:35:29.120 it's like that's what they're used to the first i think they still even prefer the circumcised
09:35:34.920 What was your question, though?
09:35:35.860 Turtleneck.
09:35:36.600 No, I was just asking the idea.
09:35:37.760 No, yeah, it would be like a woman who likes the uncut pee-pee.
09:35:42.040 Well, with that, that is sort of crazy.
09:35:45.040 And I don't see why it matters.
09:35:46.460 What's that?
09:35:46.820 I've had both, and I don't see why it matters.
09:35:48.580 I don't even know.
09:35:48.900 What is more close to getting dirty?
09:35:50.500 Well, when a guy is erect.
09:35:51.260 For a man, it's more pleasurable if they aren't cut.
09:35:53.440 When a guy is erect, my understanding is it's mostly the same.
09:35:58.100 There's a bit of extra skin, but it's mostly the same.
09:36:00.760 Well, they're moving their G-spot.
09:36:02.440 No, because what was explained to me when I had my O shot done, because then I asked
09:36:07.460 about the men too, a man when they're not cut is more sensitive because their skin is
09:36:13.520 covering.
09:36:13.920 So like the rubbing that the guys get from their pants and their underwear, that makes
09:36:17.080 it less sensitive if they're cut.
09:36:19.120 So they actually say men are more pleasured who are not circumcised.
09:36:25.240 You're removing the G spot when you get circumcised.
09:36:28.060 That's why they say it's up the butt now, but it's not up the butt.
09:36:30.360 But actually, we need to ban circumcision.
09:36:35.180 I agree.
09:36:35.860 We're going to ban circumcision and labiaplasty.
09:36:38.500 We're going to bundle it together.
09:36:39.700 Deport everyone who practices circumcision.
09:36:41.980 Solves all the problems.
09:36:42.860 Did you know for the first time in decades, America has less circumcisions this year than
09:36:51.120 they have in decades, several decades?
09:36:53.260 Let's fucking go.
09:36:54.100 W America.
09:36:55.540 No circumcisions.
09:36:56.840 I just heard that.
09:36:57.480 Fuck circumcisions.
09:36:58.420 Okay.
09:36:58.600 So anyways.
09:36:59.600 Wait.
09:37:00.040 where were we we're talking you had a question about labia yeah like you i just can't believe
09:37:05.000 that that's for real in my day in my day we call that if you guys know her ends have you heard a
09:37:10.900 beef curtain send them your way send them my way yeah send them it's like i want to make a sir mix
09:37:15.860 a lot baby got back song but about labia like you're not going to wait friday do you do you
09:37:21.540 ask about it on your application you don't have to show the application 100 questions is it on
09:37:27.280 there so it is on the application it is on the application actually i would personally prefer
09:37:35.020 a woman should dm me and she should just be like hi brian i want to have seven children i want to
09:37:41.020 i want to stay at home i want to do your laundry and i have a huge labia that's like the best
09:37:47.200 opening message that is the best interesting so you prefer your woman not to work because you
09:37:59.240 you said that that's what you prefer like she's gonna be working in the house yeah
09:38:03.080 i got a backyard she's gonna be working in that yard i'll tell you what she's gonna be
09:38:09.920 you think you're gonna find yourself a trad wife who like describes her genitalia
09:38:13.920 to her to someone that she's not married to like that's not gonna happen all it takes is one
09:38:17.920 that's not gonna happen it's gonna happen one of these days i feel it look there's some look
09:38:23.040 i think you have some complete conflicting wants i'm just saying like uh but he's not gonna die
09:38:28.120 for her the sir mix a lot song he's got a segment like some dudes like to hold on let me look
09:38:34.560 baby got back hold on baby got back uh lyrics uh my anaconda don't want want none unless you
09:38:43.800 That's Nicki Minaj.
09:38:45.820 No, that's literally Sir Mix-a-Lot.
09:38:47.940 Is it?
09:38:48.160 Yeah, that was a song way before.
09:38:52.340 Did I just age myself?
09:38:54.640 That's a sample.
09:38:55.880 That always got played at the high school.
09:38:57.540 I didn't even find it, but he says,
09:38:59.300 some brothers like to play that hard role
09:39:01.840 and tell you that the butt ain't gold,
09:39:04.260 so they toss it, and I'm butchering this,
09:39:07.020 and I pull up quick to retrieve it.
09:39:09.440 That's me, but with labia.
09:39:11.140 I pull up quick to retrieve it because I'm a – never mind.
09:39:18.000 I was about to say a G.
09:39:19.920 I've never heard of a man so obsessed.
09:39:22.640 I love that for you.
09:39:24.440 You know what you want?
09:39:25.360 I'm from the hard streets of Santa Barbara.
09:39:28.220 From the hard streets, yo.
09:39:30.220 Are you from here?
09:39:31.640 I am from Santa Barbara, correct.
09:39:33.360 Okay, so hold on.
09:39:34.620 Let me blast through this.
09:39:35.740 You've gotten nicer as the alcohol.
09:39:39.040 It's probably the alcohol.
09:39:40.100 fucking Robert Tanner if you're still
09:39:42.000 fucking Robert Tanner
09:39:43.720 three champagne pops
09:39:46.020 okay the final thing
09:39:48.020 from Anna Anna woman
09:39:49.680 deported cheating husband story
09:39:51.920 tell us the quick version yes
09:39:53.360 so you deport you got a man
09:39:55.560 a Mexican man deported
09:39:57.200 because he was cheating do we put a timer
09:39:59.840 on her we should
09:40:01.740 I don't think you have a say
09:40:03.940 in this I think he does
09:40:06.180 Anna you have 67
09:40:07.560 call it wish you have 67
09:40:09.840 seconds met a guy met a guy on a dating app this was during after my sabbatical went on it went
09:40:14.960 on one date with him it was weird he asked me he said he was working from out of town he asked me
09:40:20.280 to pick him up he left his cell phone at the hotel so i thought that was kind of weird and then
09:40:26.240 during dinner he abruptly blurts out that he's married but he swears to god that his wife does
09:40:31.300 not care they have an open marriage i said i don't care if you have an open marriage i'm not into
09:40:34.260 that shit so goodbye i immediately ended the date two weeks later i get a text message from his wife
09:40:39.660 because she must have been looking through his phone records or whatever and she called me
09:40:43.980 bawling her eyes out and she just said i gave this man everything i bought him a car when he
09:40:49.120 like she gave him a green card she put clothes on his like he came with absolutely nothing and she
09:40:54.180 like fed housed and now he's out on dates and then telling her that he and then swearing up
09:41:00.840 and down to me that he's i swear i'm sorry can i help here man bad man did bad things
09:41:07.700 what was the so tell us the like quick deportation well so then she was like well my family's been
09:41:13.860 telling me he's been using me for a green card fuck this dude and in order for him to stay
09:41:18.080 man bad yeah in order for him to stay in the country
09:41:21.600 when you do that riley what is wrong with you how dare you riley how dare you i'm sorry you're
09:41:29.980 not interesting riley he said 67 seconds oh my goodness riley as a conservative riley who have
09:41:36.240 you gotten deported no one no unfortunately not that is true that is true i would not so anyways
09:41:42.740 i didn't do this she called me she asked the details he was screwing with me and screwing
09:41:49.080 with her i gave her the details and she said in order for him to stay like his green card is
09:41:53.680 contingent upon our marriage being in good standing i guess in two weeks he had a marriage
09:41:59.200 in good standing like meet up with vhs i guess they have to like have these meetings every so
09:42:03.860 often. And she's like, I'm going to tell them
09:42:05.880 everything that he did. And this was like right
09:42:07.780 as Trump 2.0
09:42:09.080 was, this was like last, like right as Trump
09:42:11.740 was coming into office. And so
09:42:13.400 she, she went and
09:42:15.400 did it. Nice.
09:42:17.700 So he, he got deported.
09:42:19.720 Yeah.
09:42:21.360 Did they have kids? No. Oh, okay.
09:42:23.920 He got deported though.
09:42:25.900 I mean, think about it. I would love to
09:42:27.700 date an illegal immigrant because I
09:42:29.700 feel like it's a lot
09:42:31.740 of leverage in that.
09:42:33.380 I'm kidding.
09:42:34.420 I'm kidding.
09:42:35.220 I would never have, even if I could have her deported, I wouldn't do it.
09:42:41.080 I wasn't, to be honest with you, I wasn't looking for that.
09:42:44.020 I was just answering her questions, and I was pissed at him, too.
09:42:47.480 Like, he's wasting my time.
09:42:48.760 You know what I mean?
09:42:49.680 I answered my questions, led to her going to DHS and reporting him.
09:42:54.120 I'm going to deport fucking Tiffany.
09:42:57.040 I'm deporting her to Korea.
09:42:58.600 that girl over there who works for me i gave you the raw tomatoes no no hey not all asian people
09:43:07.220 not all asian people look alike okay that was a different asian woman i know
09:43:12.940 you know she is asian uh griselda how you're 33 33 uh question when did you get the neck tattoo
09:43:25.200 Probably like what?
09:43:26.260 Like six months ago?
09:43:28.180 Hold on.
09:43:29.060 Wait, wait, wait.
09:43:29.960 Whoa.
09:43:35.080 Oh, wait.
09:43:35.820 I didn't mean to send the asteroid.
09:43:36.920 I meant to.
09:43:37.300 What?
09:43:38.600 I guess it's okay, though.
09:43:40.240 I sent the asteroid.
09:43:42.180 At the ripe age of 33.
09:43:45.380 I was 32, but yeah.
09:43:47.380 I apologize.
09:43:48.160 You were 32.
09:43:49.780 You chose.
09:43:50.760 You thought.
09:43:54.300 you know what i need do you have kids by the way i do i have two two girls how much does a neck
09:44:00.060 tattoo how much does it uh well this one was what like probably 200 bucks that could have been
09:44:06.780 a quinceanera no they're like 15 grand if you've been no proper it could have gone towards a
09:44:12.060 quinceanera and you spent your daughter's quinceanera money on a neck tattoo that's
09:44:20.380 That's ridiculous.
09:44:21.580 Well, again, I can afford it.
09:44:23.100 I wouldn't put myself on that.
09:44:25.540 But 32 and getting a neck tattoo?
09:44:27.800 Why not?
09:44:28.380 It's cute.
09:44:29.380 Yeah, I get a lot of compliments on that.
09:44:31.460 Because they're lying to you.
09:44:32.920 No.
09:44:33.620 Your tie is not cute.
09:44:34.560 A tattoo is never an upgrade on a woman.
09:44:36.720 What about my tie?
09:44:37.640 Her butterfly tattoo is better.
09:44:38.960 Are you talking shit about Riley's fucking tie?
09:44:41.000 Hell, yeah.
09:44:41.840 No, this is the power tie.
09:44:43.300 Riley, you're talking too much.
09:44:45.100 Riley, you're talking too much.
09:44:46.700 Can I touch it?
09:44:47.220 Riley, you're talking too much.
09:44:49.560 I'm going to use that.
09:44:50.440 Your 67 seconds is up.
09:44:52.240 I'm actually commuting back and forth with somebody, actually.
09:44:54.660 Again, I feel like...
09:44:56.400 How dare you?
09:44:56.960 She's so salty.
09:44:57.780 How dare you?
09:44:58.480 You can't be any age to get a tattoo or a piercing, whatever.
09:45:00.540 You can, but...
09:45:00.920 Like, age is just a number.
09:45:02.040 It's tough.
09:45:02.740 I feel like...
09:45:03.780 And what does it say?
09:45:04.900 What is the word there?
09:45:05.920 It says...
09:45:06.600 Resilient?
09:45:07.300 Resilient and trauma.
09:45:08.600 We hear you have...
09:45:09.600 I did it all together.
09:45:10.400 That's true.
09:45:11.140 That's a great sign.
09:45:12.940 Trauma?
09:45:13.680 Yeah.
09:45:14.480 Resilient?
09:45:16.960 And...
09:45:17.320 If I saw a girl with a...
09:45:19.500 resilient here on her neck I would think that she can give yes I don't even want to say it but
09:45:28.020 okay but I don't know I just feel like did your husband was your husband on board yeah does he
09:45:34.340 have tattoos none oh so he's crazy so you're the one in charge woman yeah you're the one in charge
09:45:41.480 in the relationship then I mean not really like I said it's just a 50-50 because like so he told
09:45:47.040 you he approves but does he actually approve all my tattoos i got him while i was with him
09:45:52.280 like he was okay with it you didn't get those when you were younger huh you got a septum piercing
09:45:57.480 yeah i got it while you're with him yeah i got it i got my naples pierced when i when i was with
09:46:02.860 him oh that's kind of badass and then you have a rose tattoo here which is a bit covered by the
09:46:11.000 yeah this one right here yeah yeah uh and it's a butterfly it's a butterfly yeah and it's not even
09:46:18.980 done it has color like 30 32 yeah neck god forbid she looks good why not are you in a gang no i just
09:46:30.600 like tattoos she owns a vegan business she's not it's just a different aesthetic than what you
09:46:35.060 She owns a vegan business.
09:46:37.660 Where is this Mexican husband?
09:46:41.240 Where is the Mexican husband?
09:46:43.300 He's not Mexican.
09:46:44.900 Oh, I thought you said he was Mexican.
09:46:46.700 He's a conquistador.
09:46:47.880 Does he speak Espanol?
09:46:49.660 He does.
09:46:50.400 Is he fluent?
09:46:51.500 He's a conquistador.
09:46:52.820 Kind of.
09:46:53.440 I taught him the Spanish.
09:46:55.600 Oh, okay.
09:46:56.400 He's very light.
09:46:57.640 He's getting his Mexican card revoked.
09:47:00.960 Wow.
09:47:02.320 Yeah, I mean, again, it's just...
09:47:04.000 a little closer to the mic tattoos are you know doesn't matter what age you are it's like any
09:47:09.020 type of modification that you to your body yeah it's terrible well i understand you can get a
09:47:13.000 tattoo at any age but i guess the question is why what because i like him just because of that
09:47:21.480 all right do you have tattoos brian i have zero tattoos also it's a lot different for men
09:47:26.520 it is different no no i was just wondering i actually don't have tattoos they cause cancer
09:47:33.500 that's my biggest issue and apparently you're in like a low level whenever you have a tattoo
09:47:39.600 especially if you have a lot of tattoos you're in a constant like low level uh immune response
09:47:45.600 to the tattoo is my understanding um it's always trying to eat it creates like my understanding
09:47:51.960 it's very like minimal like to the point it's almost negligible but your body is like slightly
09:47:58.240 always in an immune response which can create a stress on your immune like slight it's pretty
09:48:04.280 slight stress on i'm vegan so it only creates i'm very healthy well if you're vegan and you're
09:48:09.200 doing heroin like you're still doing well i don't do any drugs i don't drink no but what i'm saying
09:48:14.100 is like just because you're vegan okay nevermind i don't think it's stress for like four months
09:48:18.560 no it's like been known to like lifelong but maybe i'm full of shit no you're not i actually
09:48:24.040 it's negligent after a certain amount of time after it's healed over i mean i think your body's
09:48:29.700 always trying to no because it's still it's still there eat up the molecules but they're too big
09:48:34.500 but that doesn't but that's an autoimmune response what do you think about hey you've been talking
09:48:38.860 way too fucking much tonight be quiet no yeah uh what you have tattoos what do you think
09:48:44.320 closer to the mic they were just all impulsive do you speak japanese yes
09:48:50.060 konnichiwa let's hear it like valorant like say something like what
09:48:55.940 i don't know some like wife uh some what's the fucking way who white
09:49:02.100 way who no i'm thinking of wave kawaii kawaii kawaii some weeb shit
09:49:10.180 anything but watashi love
09:49:11.820 uwu
09:49:12.320 oh fuck that's gonna get clipped
09:49:15.400 fuck
09:49:15.920 god damn it
09:49:17.800 I thought that she played Valorant
09:49:21.380 I was asking her this
09:49:22.400 cause she looks like a Valorant e-girl
09:49:23.680 she actually plays Counter-Strike
09:49:25.020 isn't that odd
09:49:25.660 oh that's interesting
09:49:27.380 that is odd
09:49:27.840 that is interesting
09:49:28.660 uh okay
09:49:30.060 uh
09:49:30.580 your thoughts on the tattoo thing
09:49:32.500 I don't know
09:49:34.320 I mean people can get them
09:49:35.500 if they want
09:49:36.000 I just got them
09:49:36.820 because I was impulsive
09:49:37.920 I have Hello Kitty tattoos
09:49:39.680 You have, like, an AK-47 on your sternum, sort of?
09:49:46.220 I just, 32, you get a neck tattoo.
09:49:49.480 Why not?
09:49:51.180 I just feel like it's the most normal thing.
09:49:53.340 I mean...
09:49:54.020 Normal?
09:49:54.920 Yeah.
09:49:55.660 How's that normal to get a tattoo on your neck?
09:49:58.980 Wait, would you...
09:49:59.820 Your daughters?
09:50:00.720 You have daughters, right?
09:50:01.440 Yes.
09:50:03.280 Would you be fine with them getting tattoos?
09:50:05.420 Yeah, why not?
09:50:06.100 Not right now.
09:50:07.060 It'll make it...
09:50:07.640 But, yeah, once they're an adult, they can do whatever they want.
09:50:10.620 It'll make it harder for them to find a high-quality man
09:50:12.560 because high-quality men do not like women with tattoos.
09:50:14.040 I do have a high-quality man.
09:50:16.180 That's just a preference.
09:50:17.720 That's not true.
09:50:18.800 That's just a preference.
09:50:19.700 That doesn't speak to the quality of a man.
09:50:20.800 Are you the high-quality man we're talking about?
09:50:22.640 Actually, yeah.
09:50:23.500 Actually, yeah, I am.
09:50:24.400 I get the tattoos while I wasn't waiting.
09:50:25.880 I mean, that's kind of why I'm here.
09:50:28.280 Not all high-quality men find tattoos.
09:50:30.320 You're not high-quality men without a college degree.
09:50:32.420 You can't even call yourself that.
09:50:34.560 Because I'm not brainwashed.
09:50:35.920 No, because I said you don't have a college degree.
09:50:37.360 I went to college for one semester.
09:50:39.640 I took the max amount of classes.
09:50:41.080 I got straight A's.
09:50:42.160 I do not need a college degree to prove myself.
09:50:44.500 Just because you got straight A's doesn't mean you got a degree.
09:50:45.800 Wait, just because you graduated from college doesn't mean you're high value.
09:50:49.060 I think education adds to a man's value completely.
09:50:51.520 Not necessarily.
09:50:52.740 It can be a plus in some situations.
09:50:55.480 I want to manage a degree.
09:50:56.760 You don't need an education, but when you're negotiating how much you're going to get paid,
09:51:02.520 it definitely comes in handy.
09:51:03.980 Like, hey, I have a master's degree, so I want to get paid.
09:51:06.300 I'd be the employer.
09:51:07.180 I don't know, this man thought Cambodia was in South, you said South Asia, Southwest Asia.
09:51:11.900 I mixed up East and West, I perfectly described where Cambodia.
09:51:14.780 East and West, you don't know East, you don't know, never eat soggy waffles.
09:51:17.400 First of all, Shona.
09:51:18.800 He's a little sassy, he's a little sassy.
09:51:20.240 I perfectly explained to you that Cambodia is wrapped between Thailand and Vietnam and it's a little circle country that's landlocked.
09:51:25.860 You so thought that was Southwest.
09:51:27.380 But you also don't think there's Muslims in the UK.
09:51:29.140 Bro, I can point to it on a map.
09:51:30.300 I never said I didn't think there were Muslims in the UK.
09:51:32.140 Oh my God.
09:51:34.280 Hey Shona, where's Bangladesh?
09:51:37.180 South Asia.
09:51:38.160 Hey, Shona.
09:51:38.880 Where's Uzbekistan?
09:51:40.580 Central Asia.
09:51:41.640 Hey, where is fucking Lichtenstein?
09:51:45.600 Europe, near Germany.
09:51:47.160 Where's Luxembourg?
09:51:48.700 Also nearby, very small.
09:51:50.440 Oh, cool.
09:51:51.020 Where is Eritrea?
09:51:53.220 Eritrea, northeast Africa.
09:51:55.920 Okay, cool.
09:51:56.580 Where is fucking Damascus?
09:52:01.460 West Asia.
09:52:02.420 West Asia.
09:52:03.200 Wrecked.
09:52:03.840 West Asia, no?
09:52:04.780 What about Angola?
09:52:05.460 Isn't it near Poland?
09:52:06.160 Angola, Africa.
09:52:07.820 Where?
09:52:08.540 Well, obviously.
09:52:10.380 Middleton, middle to south.
09:52:12.300 Okay, middle to what?
09:52:13.320 What was your question?
09:52:14.180 Middle to north.
09:52:15.160 That would be pretty solid, though.
09:52:16.540 I'm not going to lie.
09:52:17.380 Yeah, you'd be good.
09:52:18.100 If you date Taddy Woman, if you date a woman that has tattoos.
09:52:21.280 Tattoos are not a deal breaker, but it is my preference that it's minimal or no tattoos.
09:52:27.320 So you're under the mindset that you wouldn't put a bumper sticker on a Bentley, basically.
09:52:31.400 Yeah, like you shouldn't put a, exactly.
09:52:33.040 You could take a bumper sticker off a Bentley.
09:52:36.160 no i understand what she's saying it is a saying like you don't put a you wouldn't put like a
09:52:41.000 bumper sticker on a ferrari or something but uh it's not a deal breaker although some tattoos are
09:52:45.600 like strongly strongly like okay she has a heart on her wrist very minimal would i prefer she
09:52:54.280 doesn't have it yes but like my objection to it is pretty negligible she has a heart on her ankle
09:53:01.240 okay not a deal breaker don't really care butterfly in the chest that once you okay face
09:53:08.580 tattoos neck tattoos wait i have a meme somebody with tattoos i'm actually kind of judgmental
09:53:14.060 about tattoos because like i i think as a woman particularly having face neck chest uh discord
09:53:21.220 resources memes discord resources memes you're gonna scroll up like uh like
09:53:30.640 six and you're going to see a tattoo one do you have it quick quick tiffany quick tiffany before
09:53:38.000 i deport you i'm revoking your h1b visa do you have it t-dog tiffany pull it up yeah
09:53:48.620 oh it's so facts and then go to the other one sorry tiffany this is
09:53:56.640 Tiffany has tattoos she's not enjoying this
09:53:59.140 so that's the original
09:54:01.200 but then go back to the other one
09:54:02.760 the arms are disgusting
09:54:04.280 yeah and then wait actually
09:54:07.060 X out of that and scroll down
09:54:09.500 scroll down
09:54:11.640 X and then scroll down to the
09:54:13.160 the red one
09:54:14.800 yeah click that one
09:54:17.160 yeah it's facts
09:54:19.140 that's factual
09:54:20.320 just saying
09:54:21.420 okay so anyways
09:54:23.300 uh here let me blast through this women part let me blast through this uh okay the tattoo thing
09:54:29.820 uh you have a christian tattoo too are you christian i think uh not really not really i'm not
09:54:36.720 you said you dated a lot of bad guys i have uh who would mistreat you yes until you met your
09:54:43.120 husband who's the opposite he's a great guy he's a nice guy yeah uh and when you say bad guys can
09:54:48.460 you give us a quick list of details and were they mexican hey i'm so fucking lovely yeah i mean
09:54:55.460 you know well being from mexico i dated a lot of cartel people
09:55:00.280 yeah
09:55:01.440 okay oh my god you can't was that the i don't think it was no it wasn't the tripod
09:55:16.740 But let's, she does need her, she needs her inhaler, yes
09:55:22.260 So you did
09:55:25.660 You dated cartel? Cartel people, yes
09:55:30.600 A lot. Which one? The Sinaloa? No, I mean
09:55:34.560 I'm from actually from the border, you know. Juarez?
09:55:39.420 Is that? Tijuana? No, Tamaulipas
09:55:42.980 Which is, you know, yeah, it's the border to Texas, actually.
09:55:48.260 She's from Texas.
09:55:49.500 Did you ever date a...
09:55:51.980 A main guy, kind of like a boss?
09:55:54.780 Yes.
09:55:55.480 A boss?
09:55:56.280 Yes.
09:55:56.720 A jefe?
09:55:57.440 Yes.
09:55:58.000 You dated a jefe?
09:55:58.980 Yes.
09:55:59.480 You dated a jefe?
09:56:00.480 Yes, I did.
09:56:02.400 Very bad guy.
09:56:03.600 Very bad guy.
09:56:04.880 I love your tattoos, by the way.
09:56:07.900 Love your tattoos.
09:56:09.360 They're the best.
09:56:10.600 I agree with everything you say.
09:56:12.980 uh okay so but so were they drug dealers were they violent were they i mean you can just imagine i
09:56:23.220 mean if he's a boss of the cartel in that city yes i mean there were drug dealers they were
09:56:29.160 crossing people across the border everything everything like yes absolutely yikes okay um
09:56:35.700 yeah i mean but again i was very young and stupid also you know i kind of regret doing that to be
09:56:41.820 honest but yeah i mean that was kind of like my whole uh you know when i was growing out that was
09:56:48.860 the type of guys i was dating i see i see uh and would they hit you uh like they mistreated you
09:56:56.840 i want to say yes like this guy the one that i dated that was actually like kind of like the
09:57:02.740 boss yes he put a gun to my head yeah he put a gun to your head absolutely more than once
09:57:08.040 uh he did it twice were you like why i mean again it's just again it's a different culture i guess
09:57:17.220 and this let's just put it this way like he kind of if i if i if i'm not with him he's gonna kill
09:57:24.380 me type of thing you know so shit yeah no shit that's what i said in the very beginning i was
09:57:29.880 like that's why i won't date mexican men they have that same mindset well but not everybody again
09:57:34.120 You're dating a white guy now.
09:57:35.620 That's the cartel.
09:57:36.380 Wait, wait, hold on.
09:57:37.180 We're talking about cartelling right now.
09:57:39.020 You're going to the other extreme.
09:57:40.180 Wait, wait, wait.
09:57:40.680 I just want to say, I've met some wonderful Mexican people.
09:57:44.860 I love Mexicans.
09:57:46.180 Do they cheat?
09:57:46.940 I will only date Mexicans, just saying.
09:57:49.060 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
09:57:49.340 Okay, that's interesting.
09:57:50.320 But I think Mexicans are wonderful.
09:57:53.960 So there's like, that's, I think it's most Mexican men do not want to hold guns up to their girlfriends.
09:58:01.000 No, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
09:58:02.060 this is like a you know this i'm talking about someone really specifically someone that is like
09:58:06.740 like i said like it was like do you still hang out like know him not hang out with him do you
09:58:10.880 still like keep in touch or no no he actually ended up in jail he's already in jail i like
09:58:16.500 does he have a wikipedia page uh i think so dude like i think i saw him once and i was like can we
09:58:23.140 look this up official i feel like we should uh okay that's um did you okay um you think you need
09:58:33.040 to host more diversity on girls to talk on the podcast you see a lot of only fans girls influencers
09:58:38.860 or sex workers but rarely ladies like you that actually have a real job and can share more
09:58:43.820 opinions from the majority of the female population that don't have the but i mean like
09:58:47.780 aside from her no no yeah but most of our shows it's like one or two of girls or whatever i feel
09:58:55.060 like well lately i don't know what i was watching i felt like there was a lot of only fans girls
09:58:59.580 and i feel like as i respect what they do you know but i don't well i i offense you're you're
09:59:06.940 pleasant enough i guess i i respect what they do you know but i feel like wait are you christian
09:59:12.440 I'm not.
09:59:13.660 Oh, for some reason, I saw you had a Christian tattoo.
09:59:16.080 I don't know.
09:59:16.820 I actually do.
09:59:18.880 I'm not a Christian.
09:59:20.280 Oh, okay.
09:59:21.340 Frankie, you have Fae them as your pronouns in your bio.
09:59:26.260 You have a complicated relationship status.
09:59:28.520 Why is it complicated?
09:59:29.700 Say complicated on Facebook?
09:59:32.400 No, it was on your, I think, in the notes that you provided.
09:59:35.300 Oh, I don't remember putting complicated.
09:59:37.360 It's not complicated.
09:59:38.460 okay uh barbara you have two master's degrees but prefer to be in the kitchen
09:59:43.840 facts why is that um wait can you say that in your own words yeah i have two master's degrees
09:59:50.200 but prefer to be in the kitchen i uh why is that yeah i just uh i actually really enjoy cooking
09:59:58.020 and baking and you know particularly for you know my husband and my daughter and if i could just
10:00:03.860 stay home and tend to the house and take care of my husband and child I would but financially that's
10:00:09.860 not an option at the moment why'd you get the master's degrees then because it's a lot of money
10:00:14.520 you know to get those degrees yeah um part of them was paid for because uh my first graduate
10:00:21.040 program the master's in English I was actually like a TA the whole time and so like I actually
10:00:26.920 came out of that with no debt and they actually paid me a stipend because I taught undergrad
10:00:31.300 while i was getting the master's and then i taught college for a while and so uh while i was teaching
10:00:38.400 college they needed someone to get dual certified to teach com in addition to english and so uh the
10:00:44.560 college i was working for paid for half of that degree so okay but i'm assuming you have to pay
10:00:49.320 for the other one and is it worth paying for if you don't get to like use it i mean unless you
10:00:52.480 have the means and you just want to learn more but that's why it's kind of worthless for women
10:00:56.680 to go to college learn from her learn from her i said if they use it learn okay we're going to
10:01:01.740 blast through the final uh rapid fire question segment uh let's see here uh is anybody here
10:01:08.220 asian like part of asia uh yeah is your boy you're married right is he white asian what what is he's
10:01:15.940 white okay and question so and you're how old are you again 25 you're 25 you're married you have a
10:01:22.440 white husband uh are you or have you been attracted to asian men you're japanese so when i was younger
10:01:30.740 yeah but as i got older now just curious really quick why is that like looks wise or was it a
10:01:38.020 personality thing or uh well okay when i got older it was just mostly looks but like when i was
10:01:45.100 younger i used to watch korean shows and i did not like the way they kissed
10:01:48.560 can you give us an example just that's adorable yeah it wasn't like overlapping it was just
10:02:01.760 face to face they're very efficient with very efficient people i feel like okay uh that's
10:02:08.220 interesting um are you attracted i guess when you were single um were you attracted to asian men
10:02:14.100 no uh just wait question for you would you uh would you rather date a black man or an asian man
10:02:21.580 like if you were single asian i guess you guess okay uh would you rather date a latino man or an
10:02:31.040 asian man uh latino latina so you go both ways would you rather date a white man or an asian
10:02:43.760 man i because your husband get this girl her inhaler um okay uh let's see here does anyone
10:02:52.140 here think i i am a misogynist now's your chance now's your chance don't send it in my dms oh my
10:03:02.220 god sometimes sometimes a misogynist any what okay what what i think i said it earlier in the
10:03:09.060 questionnaire that you know I feel
10:03:11.160 like sometimes the
10:03:12.960 statements that you say like that like
10:03:15.080 oh woman should bow to me
10:03:16.960 woman should you know do my laundry
10:03:19.060 I think that's a little misogynist
10:03:20.720 you say men
10:03:23.120 should die for you men should protect
10:03:25.340 you because that's a role I mean
10:03:27.140 that's that's totally different it's a woman's
10:03:29.020 role to bow
10:03:31.260 to me
10:03:32.080 like come on that's cooked tomatoes
10:03:34.940 by the way cooked tomatoes that's
10:03:36.920 Cringy, by the way.
10:03:38.680 Who does that?
10:03:42.480 If he does it in that voice, I would do it.
10:03:44.700 That's hysterical.
10:03:46.000 If you do it in the voice, just like that.
10:03:47.920 I can do all kinds of voices.
10:03:49.800 I do all kinds.
10:03:50.860 I'll do it in a southern accent.
10:03:53.520 I'll even do a Vietnamese nail salon.
10:03:56.520 Please, let's hear the southern one.
10:03:58.640 Can anybody do the Vietnamese nail salon voice?
10:04:02.200 Five dollar for you.
10:04:03.140 Five dollar for you.
10:04:03.820 That's pretty good.
10:04:04.500 You had no boyfriend?
10:04:05.280 I should have said I should have had y'all do the entire show in a Vietnamese
10:04:11.420 action keep going keep going
10:04:14.120 I don't even know another that's it you want you want gem on your hand
10:04:18.620 I love the Vietnamese accent I love it
10:04:26.620 it's very like a vibration I don't know how to put it it's very
10:04:29.760 what the fuck you doing
10:04:36.380 you're good Riley that's pretty good
10:04:38.680 I actually would like to know what would you
10:04:40.740 take a black girl
10:04:42.720 an Asian girl like what are your preferences
10:04:44.780 I mean
10:04:46.200 if I'm attracted to her
10:04:48.900 I'm attracted to her but generally
10:04:50.600 white women but also like Latina
10:04:52.740 Latina and Asian women
10:04:54.700 too so yeah
10:04:56.580 I mean that's been my history
10:04:58.960 okay you know i just you know no offense to the black women here i just feel like the black women
10:05:04.480 they're not really into me i just feel like i'm not i'm for black yeah she knows i just feel like
10:05:12.040 i'm not you're too white for sure for the black girls you know i'm like a stand-up white guy like
10:05:19.640 i'm gonna be with a white guy act white don't act like a wigger like don't i act like a wigger
10:05:23.960 No, I'm just saying.
10:05:24.680 Act like Wigga?
10:05:25.700 Yeah, you did try.
10:05:27.100 You tried.
10:05:27.460 What do you mean, you people?
10:05:28.640 That is our word.
10:05:33.260 Okay, so I'm a misogynist.
10:05:36.600 How do you define misogyny?
10:05:39.180 I just feel someone that is kind of against women.
10:05:43.620 I mean, again, it could be a lot of instances, but, again, I don't feel like you're fully misogynist.
10:05:51.360 I just think sometimes, partial.
10:05:53.380 partial misogyny yeah yeah okay uh all right i will accept that but not really uh okay uh
10:06:01.380 hold on i'm getting to it i'm getting to it we're almost there we're at the tail end here
10:06:10.340 we're we're close we're close i promise you guys get this girl some more bagel bites
10:06:15.180 i can't eat bagel bites that'll make my asthma worse i guess not uh scoot in just a little bit
10:06:20.980 Shona. What's up?
10:06:23.320 Did I say it right? Your name? You did.
10:06:25.900 Okay.
10:06:27.380 We're getting into the rapid fire segment.
10:06:29.600 Put on your thinking caps, ladies
10:06:31.180 and gentlemen, because I'm about to take you
10:06:33.180 guys on a journey of science
10:06:35.220 and questions
10:06:37.320 that'll blow your mind.
10:06:41.360 Blow my mind. Okay.
10:06:43.360 Question for you.
10:06:47.240 Change split.
10:06:47.920 what species are we
10:06:51.600 hold on i'll point to you
10:07:00.880 the
10:07:01.200 the genuist thing sorry what the i don't know i don't know i don't know i have no clue
10:07:11.760 homo homo homo genuas homo genuas is that what you're showing a little bit
10:07:24.020 i feel like i mean no there's a homophobic no no yeah that's there's a word close to that i don't
10:07:29.900 please don't refer to yeah that's that's people as homos homo genuas that's the one for the books
10:07:36.660 What species are we?
10:07:39.720 Just humans then?
10:07:41.580 Well, we are humans, but what species are we?
10:07:45.900 Why was I the first one?
10:07:48.060 I don't know.
10:07:48.760 I'm a sapien, right?
10:07:49.820 Your colored hair just drew me in.
10:07:54.700 Sapien.
10:07:55.500 Homo sapien.
10:07:56.380 Homo sapien.
10:08:01.700 Relax me.
10:08:02.980 I'm really.
10:08:05.380 I'm brain.
10:08:06.660 oh boy it's like 3 a.m man oh really okay what do you got for me what species are we
10:08:14.680 oh yeah going around the table it's false homo sapien sapiens uh-huh wait what it's facts
10:08:26.260 homo sapien sapiens there's two wait because neanderthal neanderthals are homo sapien
10:08:31.840 neanderthals we're almost sapien
10:08:33.860 objection irrelevant
10:08:35.380 I'm just saying you learn something every day
10:08:38.220 objection you're a nerd
10:08:39.800 okay how about this
10:08:41.300 name two countries besides the USA
10:08:43.400 Algeria and Djibouti
10:08:45.780 Mexico Venezuela
10:08:47.200 Japan and Spain
10:08:49.420 El Salvador Argentina
10:08:51.460 Jordan and Georgia
10:08:53.280 no repeating by the way
10:08:54.800 Poland and Croatia
10:08:56.480 Liberia and Greece
10:08:58.300 Canada and the United States
10:09:00.180 up up up brazil and africa
10:09:05.440 i can't think of another one okay australia new zealand south africa and rhodesia okay uh how many
10:09:16.440 continents are there
10:09:17.920 i'm gonna direct a lot of questions i feel like you haven't talked much tonight so i feel like
10:09:26.640 I'm going to direct some of these questions at you.
10:09:28.480 What two countries, or you know what?
10:09:30.940 Name one continent.
10:09:32.940 Africa.
10:09:33.820 Can't repeat.
10:09:34.920 North America.
10:09:36.160 South America.
10:09:39.320 Europe.
10:09:40.720 Antarctica.
10:09:41.900 Australia.
10:09:43.040 Asia.
10:09:44.520 Wait, that's all of them.
10:09:46.060 South America.
10:09:46.900 What two countries border the USA?
10:09:52.800 Mexico and Canada.
10:09:55.100 Final answer.
10:09:56.640 Don't dodge yourself, queen.
10:09:59.860 Final answer?
10:10:02.280 Yeah.
10:10:03.100 Yeah.
10:10:03.880 You are correct.
10:10:05.060 How many states are in the USA?
10:10:08.420 52.
10:10:13.160 Do you vote?
10:10:14.480 No.
10:10:14.980 Okay, good.
10:10:17.600 I feel like I have no right to vote.
10:10:20.020 I'm not.
10:10:21.240 I don't look into the politics.
10:10:24.760 You're like a based OnlyFans girl.
10:10:26.400 I've never seen that before.
10:10:27.820 There's some of them.
10:10:29.820 Okay, what is the capital of the USA?
10:10:34.900 Mike, Mike, Mike.
10:10:35.880 I'm sorry.
10:10:37.520 Albany, New York?
10:10:39.400 Sorry, I'm freaking...
10:10:40.640 No, Washington, D.C.
10:10:41.740 I'm half asleep.
10:10:42.580 She's from New York.
10:10:43.420 I'm from New York.
10:10:44.380 I'm sorry.
10:10:45.140 Oh, wow, that's bad.
10:10:45.900 That's why I'm half asleep.
10:10:48.120 Okay, how many planets are in our solar system?
10:10:53.760 You're counting?
10:10:56.300 Seven.
10:10:58.660 Seven?
10:11:00.060 Planets?
10:11:01.900 Eight.
10:11:02.920 Eight planets.
10:11:03.960 Final answer?
10:11:05.260 Yes, eight.
10:11:06.060 How many planets are in the solar system?
10:11:11.900 Should be eight.
10:11:18.000 Throw something out.
10:11:20.120 Eight?
10:11:21.020 Eight, I guess.
10:11:21.760 I'm pretty sure it's nine or eight.
10:11:23.800 No, we're not counting.
10:11:24.420 No, Pluto got demoted.
10:11:25.880 I don't even know that question.
10:11:26.780 Pluto got demoted.
10:11:27.680 Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune.
10:11:30.300 They changed their minds.
10:11:31.220 What planet do we live on?
10:11:34.160 Earth.
10:11:35.180 Final answer.
10:11:37.240 In what galaxy?
10:11:39.260 The Milky Way.
10:11:40.600 The Milky Way, okay.
10:11:42.080 What is the capital of California?
10:11:46.120 You live in California?
10:11:47.300 No, Texas.
10:11:48.460 Okay, maybe it's not fair.
10:11:49.580 I know, but I know.
10:11:50.040 Okay, what is it?
10:11:50.620 Sacramento.
10:11:51.220 Well done.
10:11:51.560 The government building
10:11:53.800 The pentagon
10:11:55.480 The government building the pentagon
10:11:58.140 Is what shape
10:11:59.620 Pentagon
10:12:01.520 Well final answer
10:12:03.640 Good job
10:12:04.340 What river runs through Egypt
10:12:08.000 Nile
10:12:09.100 Nile okay
10:12:10.880 What country is directly north of Mexico
10:12:13.680 Country
10:12:17.100 United States
10:12:18.560 You're correct
10:12:20.960 you are correct uh how many sides does a triangle have three what country
10:12:29.380 gifted the statue of liberty to the usa
10:12:32.100 yeah you're correct well done what do you call a shape with five sides
10:12:39.060 um
10:12:42.640 i'm so sorry what was the question it looks like the wu-tang clan
10:12:54.940 he said it he said it before the pentagon yeah congratulations a polygon what gas do humans
10:13:06.660 BREATHE IN TO SURVIVE? OXYGEN. WHAT GAS DO PLANTS ABSORB FROM THE AIR?
10:13:19.860 WAIT, WHAT IS THE QUESTION? WHAT GAS DO PLANTS ABSORB FROM THE AIR?
10:13:25.220 POTOSYNTHESIS. INTO OXYGEN. SHONA, TILT YOUR MIC DOWN JUST A
10:13:30.100 a teeny bit. I haven't thought about this since middle school. You know what? Sometimes
10:13:40.860 sex work is the only option. I have a degree. Huh? I have a degree. In what? Hospitality.
10:13:49.800 Oh, you've been very hospitable tonight. Thank you very much. How many months have 28 days?
10:13:55.620 technically all of them
10:14:00.200 yeah yeah uno reverse that was an uno reverse i love it i think we accept that yeah we teach
10:14:09.420 to only have 28 they should all have they do all have 28 days okay i'll accept it you're not wrong
10:14:17.600 you're not wrong she is a bit of a loophole answer but we will accept it that was good
10:14:23.360 Which, how about this?
10:14:25.340 What continent is Brazil in?
10:14:29.740 America.
10:14:30.880 Sorry.
10:14:31.560 What continent is Egypt in?
10:14:35.200 Yeah.
10:14:36.160 Africa.
10:14:36.840 You're getting picked on right now.
10:14:38.680 Africa, you said?
10:14:39.680 Okay.
10:14:39.920 What continent is Japan in?
10:14:45.360 Who are you, Boyne, you two?
10:14:46.460 Sorry.
10:14:47.980 Joy.
10:14:48.420 What continent is Japan in?
10:14:50.800 Yeah, into the mic.
10:14:52.360 uh no idea yes say a continent what race is a japanese person hold on
10:15:00.060 hey korea japanese wait korean is crazy you have a one out of seven chance on this
10:15:06.380 hey what the fuck don't oh i heard somebody whisper asia what the fuck okay how many dimes
10:15:12.000 make a dollar yeah i gotta give the you know you deal with money so uh what's the capital of france
10:15:19.480 Paris.
10:15:20.340 What's the capital of Japan?
10:15:22.220 Tokyo.
10:15:22.920 What country is immediately south of the United States?
10:15:25.700 Let me ask this.
10:15:28.840 I don't even know where south is.
10:15:32.240 I don't know which way south is.
10:15:33.520 Whoa, I've never heard that.
10:15:35.540 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
10:15:36.860 Nobody help.
10:15:37.520 Nobody help.
10:15:38.120 Don't help over there.
10:15:39.920 Using your fingers, what direction is south?
10:15:46.260 Using your finger.
10:15:47.900 Finger.
10:15:48.960 what direction is south have you ever voted yeah oh god wait wait relation to us
10:15:57.860 or just like i mean come on it's south of our country stop stop no don't fucking help
10:16:04.040 that didn't help uh here use your fingers or use your arm put your arm up stick it up oh wait hold
10:16:11.820 on this way never eat soggy waffles we live in the south okay so you're gonna wait okay no no
10:16:20.040 i'm not gonna do that um here it helps wait finger uh point your finger to where south
10:16:26.060 is well i guess it's down because you say it's soggy so oh my god shona you mother
10:16:31.640 i am never given you need to regurgitate those bagel bites you're never getting a bagel bite
10:16:37.540 ever in your life?
10:16:38.340 She ate like that.
10:16:39.900 Ever again.
10:16:40.880 Ever again.
10:16:41.720 Banned from Bagel Bides.
10:16:43.180 Okay, which way is west?
10:16:46.060 Hold on.
10:16:46.660 That way.
10:16:47.820 She got it.
10:16:48.500 Wait, hold on.
10:16:49.140 Wait.
10:16:50.820 I mean...
10:16:51.260 That way.
10:16:54.700 What are we saying?
10:16:55.780 Wait, hold on.
10:16:56.700 What?
10:16:57.360 Oh, yeah, that's fair.
10:16:58.600 Like, okay.
10:16:59.100 The perspective.
10:17:00.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:17:00.840 Okay.
10:17:01.260 So you're in line with them.
10:17:03.440 Wait, no, that...
10:17:04.760 Okay, how about this?
10:17:05.640 I'll make it even further.
10:17:06.180 Which way is north?
10:17:07.540 up there we go okay there you go uh let's see here how did
10:17:14.340 if today is monday what day is it in three days angelica thursday thursday if you have three
10:17:20.900 quarters how much money do you have anna i'm three quarters if you have three inhalers how many
10:17:27.060 who painted the Mona Lisa
10:17:32.720 I actually have no clue
10:17:37.540 I don't really know either
10:17:41.720 I'm put on the spot I don't know
10:17:44.320 I've never asked myself that question
10:17:47.660 you know the most famous painting ever
10:17:50.020 did I point to you
10:17:52.040 did I point to you
10:17:54.980 oh my goodness
10:17:56.540 see it man
10:17:58.240 I'm going to excommunicate you from the Mormon church
10:18:01.660 again you're excommunicated
10:18:03.980 don't do that
10:18:04.780 what is the name
10:18:07.600 of the famous car company
10:18:09.900 founded by
10:18:11.780 Henry Ford
10:18:13.580 good job
10:18:15.760 if it takes
10:18:18.200 three minutes
10:18:18.840 oh my god
10:18:22.640 you guys are too much
10:18:24.560 you've read his works um are we your favorite panel of all time it's yes certainly if it takes
10:18:31.660 three minutes to boil one egg how many minutes does it take to boil three eggs three minutes
10:18:38.740 three minutes three minutes okay say it again anna into the mic into the mic three minutes
10:18:43.900 how many um if it takes three minutes to boil one how many yeah does it take to boil three
10:18:52.720 are you throwing them all in there together or like separately like are you putting them all in
10:18:58.960 the same pot you know what actually wait that's actually 300 iq questions because you could boil
10:19:06.940 yeah multiple eggs at the same time yeah that's what we're all thinking but i think
10:19:12.240 thinking the framing why would you put one yeah fuck that question that question sucks
10:19:17.080 how many how many i gotta be careful how nickels i mean make a dollar
10:19:26.260 can i answer it or no oh yeah i should point to somebody how many nickels make a dollar
10:19:32.820 money good job what is 50 of 200 100 what is five times five five times five yeah 25 12 divide by
10:19:41.520 three four hundreds of the five five five try to figure there try to figure that out uh 15 plus 35
10:19:50.000 50 90 minus 45
10:19:54.720 five yeah that's what i said
10:19:59.240 how many branches of u.s government are there
10:20:08.320 three uh name one branch of the u.s government into the mic i'm sorry the judicial another one
10:20:18.300 executive executive you can never remember the third one deep state deep state is that
10:20:27.080 supposed to be a hint i know it it's it one over all your guys heads right make them harder
10:20:34.160 that would not be fair he's like i'm in college yeah i didn't go to 10th grade i'm sorry
10:20:39.900 maybe i should maybe for the smart people i should have maybe you should ask the straight
10:20:43.920 a student government uh okay i know the answer uh what document begins with we the people
10:20:49.480 the independence period good movie
10:20:57.080 independence the the document is called the independence or just independence
10:21:07.860 independence it's you are correct that is how many stars are on the u.s flag
10:21:19.480 52 50 50 50 states what is what yeah you are correct it's 52 it is it's 52 you are correct
10:21:32.200 what century are we in the 21st final answer yes you are correct what galaxy do we live in
10:21:43.420 the milky the milky it sounds like some like sex act or something
10:21:50.020 i'm ready for my milky
10:21:53.420 milky milky i'm ready for my milky
10:22:00.540 oh man okay sign me up uh how many in one dozen
10:22:07.000 good job uh how many months in a decade
10:22:13.960 yes you like i feel like i'm wrong like 120
10:22:21.820 hey you got it you got congratulations congrats what year was the u.s founded
10:22:28.040 1776 damn it i thought you people watch hamilton man fuck okay i thought that was
10:22:34.100 going to be a tricky one some 300 iq questions here for shona what country did the u.s it's
10:22:42.020 what did i say wrong i said i'm scared now okay what country did the u.s gain its independence
10:22:47.100 from britain we will accept that answer okay no we accept it it's acceptable who was the first
10:22:58.000 president of the usa george washington final answer the first one right first yes yeah it's
10:23:06.760 not abraham lincoln he's no okay what country is the great wall of china in
10:23:14.280 asia what no what country is the great wall of china in china you are correct good job
10:23:27.820 China is in Asia, though, to be fair.
10:23:30.160 Brian, how many members are in Congress?
10:23:33.400 How many members, wait, in Congress or the Senate or the House of Representatives?
10:23:38.460 Congress includes both the Senate and the House of Representatives.
10:23:41.220 Oh, in totality?
10:23:42.960 In totality?
10:23:43.660 What about D.C. special votes?
10:23:45.280 You know what?
10:23:46.260 Truthfully, I'm a monarchist, so I don't pay attention to your silly democracy.
10:23:54.600 I don't give a fuck.
10:23:55.520 I mean, I still vote, but I don't care for the nuances and the milieu and the minutia
10:24:02.640 of the United States governmental system.
10:24:05.740 Shoot, I forgot how many were in the House of Representatives.
10:24:07.820 You forgot to.
10:24:08.820 I forgot to.
10:24:09.460 It's always changing, though.
10:24:11.300 No, it's not.
10:24:12.120 It's not?
10:24:12.500 It's been locked in for decades.
10:24:14.200 Is the earth flat?
10:24:16.180 Well, clip it and chip it, boys.
10:24:18.680 I am retarded.
10:24:19.740 Was the president during World War II?
10:24:22.460 Eisenhower?
10:24:23.040 Nope.
10:24:23.480 FDR.
10:24:23.840 FDR.
10:24:24.180 Yeah.
10:24:24.380 Who was the president before that?
10:24:26.700 Riley, who was the president before FDR?
10:24:28.460 I don't know the president before FDR.
10:24:30.440 Hoover.
10:24:31.420 You know what?
10:24:32.020 That was a knee-jerk answer, just to be fair.
10:24:34.640 How does that contribute to the future of society?
10:24:36.920 It's just history.
10:24:38.260 You should know.
10:24:38.880 How do any of these questions contribute to FDR?
10:24:40.820 They contribute.
10:24:41.300 I know FDR.
10:24:41.960 They just ask women if they vote.
10:24:45.000 That contributes.
10:24:45.780 When they didn't know answers.
10:24:47.600 I'm still stuck on what is the third branch of...
10:24:50.440 Legislative.
10:24:51.940 Do you vote, Riley?
10:24:53.260 Do you vote?
10:24:53.780 And you don't know those answers?
10:24:55.660 What was the question she asked?
10:24:58.340 Wait, tell me.
10:24:58.920 What was the question she asked?
10:25:00.720 All night long, when a woman didn't know an answer, you've been saying, do you vote?
10:25:05.880 What was the question that she asked?
10:25:07.360 Tell me.
10:25:08.380 Who?
10:25:09.480 What was the question that she asked?
10:25:11.820 How many members are in Congress?
10:25:13.320 No, she asked who was the president before FDR.
10:25:17.520 Why is that okay to say, oh, you don't know where Mexico is, so you can't vote,
10:25:22.340 but I don't know what the presidents are.
10:25:24.340 Who was the president before FDR
10:25:25.920 is not the most common knowledge.
10:25:28.180 Immigrants are tested on this stuff, actually,
10:25:30.200 to become citizens.
10:25:30.800 Really, that's on the test?
10:25:31.620 We were getting along so well.
10:25:33.780 Hey, Shona, you think you got it.
10:25:37.480 You don't need to know that.
10:25:38.520 Hey, Shona, who was the president in 1910?
10:25:41.440 1910.
10:25:43.420 Oh, I'm cooked.
10:25:45.800 World War 1.
10:25:47.360 Who was the president before Bill Clinton?
10:25:49.960 Bill Clinton.
10:25:50.700 Oh, is it George W. Bush?
10:25:52.340 george george hw george h oh i was closer than you you didn't know ftr who's the president
10:25:59.460 after bill clinton after bill clinton wasn't wasn't it obama are you sure george bush are
10:26:04.920 you sure about that this is more recent i'm old george bush yo this is the final to the u.s who
10:26:09.860 was who was before uh bush number one before reagan hey i wasn't asking oh my bad i might
10:26:17.200 have gotten there because that's like during like red scare before reagan what about before
10:26:21.360 reagan is it nixon hey what what year was it nixon no jimmy carter let me blast through the
10:26:28.020 rest jimmy carter uh how many days how many seasons are there just like four how many days
10:26:33.620 in a year in the 365 hoover set up the great depression that's significant how many letters
10:26:38.500 in the alphabet 25 how many days of the week ends with the letter y
10:26:45.240 seven final answer are you sure count it just be sure just count use your fingers it helps
10:26:55.820 no it's six you are correct it is six only six but day you said day yeah how many days of the
10:27:06.620 week end with the letter y how many days are in a week how many days are seven but sunday wait
10:27:13.240 oh my god wait oh shit uh what language do the people in idaho speak you're asking me yeah
10:27:20.980 english you are correct
10:27:23.980 a little bit what ocean is california next to potato pacific how many years are in a decade
10:27:32.620 10 how many are in a century i don't know oh i don't know well huh how many century how many
10:27:43.120 years in the century i don't know guess throughout the number i really can't i don't know century
10:27:49.000 yeah i'm i can't i'm like not a good test how many how many how many cents are in a dollar
10:27:56.200 I'm sorry?
10:27:56.820 How many cents are in a dollar?
10:27:59.780 A hundred.
10:28:01.540 How many years are in a century?
10:28:03.040 A hundred.
10:28:03.600 There we go.
10:28:04.120 Oops.
10:28:04.380 Sorry, I'm five.
10:28:05.120 What century are we in?
10:28:06.020 Five-hour energy.
10:28:07.820 We can do that for you.
10:28:10.380 We can oblige.
10:28:11.300 Okay.
10:28:11.500 Wait, are we still gone for a long time?
10:28:13.480 Almost done, I promise.
10:28:15.000 We're at the tail end.
10:28:15.780 Are people still watching this hour?
10:28:18.020 There's like, you know, like two people.
10:28:20.820 Hold on, where is it?
10:28:21.620 If a dozen eggs cost $3, how much is each egg?
10:28:24.540 $0.25.
10:28:26.700 Oh, that's wrong.
10:28:27.800 I looked it up before it came.
10:28:28.800 Because you already asked that one.
10:28:31.200 What is the closest star to Earth?
10:28:33.880 The sun.
10:28:36.960 Cheater.
10:28:39.280 What year did the War of 1812 start?
10:28:47.300 1812?
10:28:49.100 1812?
10:28:49.880 Yeah.
10:28:50.500 What weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?
10:28:54.540 feathers
10:28:56.020 uh oh
10:28:59.240 okay i think the weight of what you did to those birds
10:29:02.520 has a lot of weight on you
10:29:04.120 oh yeah big time
10:29:06.160 big time birds shed
10:29:08.360 feathers what country is
10:29:10.360 the panamac now in
10:29:11.400 what country is mount
10:29:14.360 fuji in
10:29:15.180 fuji a country
10:29:17.980 mount fuji what country is it in
10:29:20.540 if it's
10:29:23.640 If Fuji's not a country, I don't know.
10:29:31.580 I never heard of it.
10:29:33.940 Mount Fuji?
10:29:35.480 What country?
10:29:36.420 Hannah?
10:29:37.240 Is it Fiji?
10:29:39.140 Possibly.
10:29:40.340 Japan.
10:29:41.440 You are correct.
10:29:42.200 It is Japan.
10:29:42.700 What country is the Coliseum in?
10:29:45.440 I've never heard of that.
10:29:48.040 Italy.
10:29:48.900 You are correct.
10:29:49.660 What country is the Taj Mahal in?
10:29:53.640 You looked at me.
10:29:54.300 You looked at me.
10:29:56.920 Somewhere in Asia.
10:29:58.220 I don't know.
10:29:58.640 No way.
10:29:59.000 Somewhere.
10:29:59.840 Well, yeah.
10:30:00.560 Oh, you're not wrong.
10:30:01.300 Yeah.
10:30:01.680 You're in the continent.
10:30:02.940 I was going to say India.
10:30:05.320 Okay.
10:30:05.900 Okay.
10:30:06.300 Yeah.
10:30:06.600 What language do people speak in Mexico?
10:30:11.360 Spanish.
10:30:12.040 Are you sure?
10:30:13.460 Yes.
10:30:13.820 You are correct.
10:30:14.720 If you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?
10:30:17.820 Second.
10:30:18.640 Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
10:30:22.300 Hawaii.
10:30:23.640 A farmer has 17 sheep and all but nine die.
10:30:26.620 How many are left?
10:30:31.120 Zero.
10:30:32.260 Or no, you said all but nine die?
10:30:33.620 You said there were seven sheep.
10:30:34.340 There were 17 sheep.
10:30:36.340 All but nine die.
10:30:37.600 How many are left?
10:30:40.980 You said there were seven sheep.
10:30:42.900 17.
10:30:43.720 Oh, 17.
10:30:44.460 I thought you said seven.
10:30:44.640 17 sheep, all but nine die.
10:30:46.600 How many are left?
10:30:48.260 All but nine die, nine are left.
10:30:50.700 No, no, 17.
10:30:52.760 You never said dead or alive shape, dude.
10:30:56.400 Laugh would imply alive.
10:30:57.920 You probably make like a million dollars a year on the podcast and you don't have refined questions.
10:31:02.640 No, these are good.
10:31:03.680 What country is the Eiffel Tower in?
10:31:09.360 Paris.
10:31:10.380 France.
10:31:11.360 France.
10:31:13.180 Not Paris.
10:31:14.260 What currency is used in Japan?
10:31:16.560 Yen.
10:31:17.640 There we go.
10:31:18.040 Have you been to Japan?
10:31:19.560 Yes.
10:31:20.140 Adolf Hitler ruled which country?
10:31:22.000 poland oh my god that's crazy me yeah whoa germany all right uh before mount everest
10:31:30.800 was discovered what was the tallest mountain in the world
10:31:33.240 i'm gonna guess mauna kea but i'm not sure well mauna kea is the the tallest including under sea
10:31:42.040 level but is you would agree that mount everest is above sea level it's got the highest peak yeah
10:31:47.780 I don't know but Mount Everest is the tallest mountain above sea level but if you go yeah that's
10:31:52.300 what if you go base to peak I'm not I'm not taking I'm not talking I don't know the second or the
10:31:56.320 no but what was before it was discovered what was the tallest mountain I said I don't know
10:32:01.940 Mount Everest it doesn't need to be discovered to be the tallest mountain it's still the tallest
10:32:05.840 the tallest discovered boom lawyered okay what does the hippocampus do in the brain
10:32:11.080 the hippocampus that regulates um you being fucking annoying uh so anyways that's actually
10:32:17.680 my amygdala that's the amygdala what country did the vietnam war happen in
10:32:21.900 can you open those doors more uh all the way how much is a quarter of an hour
10:32:27.300 15 minutes what is 34 plus 66
10:32:32.980 4 plus 66 is 99
10:32:38.920 You are correct, it is 99
10:32:46.620 You got that right
10:32:48.420 What is, who is the current U.S. president?
10:32:53.840 Donald Trump
10:32:54.700 What is 100 minus 66?
10:32:56.920 44
10:32:57.640 44, okay
10:32:58.800 What is 100 minus 34?
10:33:02.980 no idea throw give us throw something out
10:33:14.500 almost there almost there we're so close we're so close
10:33:20.300 70 70 okay uh let's see what is 77 plus 33
10:33:29.940 10
10:33:32.860 Oh, that was good
10:33:35.860 66 plus 44
10:33:37.380 It's because she's Japanese
10:33:39.600 That's racist
10:33:40.420 It's true though
10:33:41.980 66 plus 44
10:33:44.240 That's still
10:33:48.520 110
10:33:49.600 You sure?
10:33:52.260 What is it? Throw out the number
10:33:53.820 110
10:33:54.460 If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
10:33:58.140 20
10:34:00.120 can we go back in time
10:34:02.320 if you were born 10 years ago
10:34:05.940 Hannah how old are you again
10:34:06.920 33 but I would be 10
10:34:08.880 you got it
10:34:12.540 how many world wars were there
10:34:14.180 two
10:34:16.560 two
10:34:18.680 you are correct
10:34:20.660 what decade
10:34:23.340 what decade
10:34:24.460 so for example
10:34:25.660 1820s 1970s what decade was world war one 1910s 1910s
10:34:33.480 they could be wrong they may very well be wrong world war one yes 1800s 1700s there's wars back
10:34:43.560 then i thought it was 18 yeah what what did you think 1870s 50 maybe the 40s i think
10:34:53.440 throughout the decade
10:35:00.260 18
10:35:02.080 1890s
10:35:06.580 1910s
10:35:08.920 1920s
10:35:13.420 I think it was 1912s
10:35:15.920 1910s
10:35:17.920 definitely 1910
10:35:19.840 1914 to 1919
10:35:22.240 I'll just give an exact
10:35:25.060 1910s
10:35:27.140 well it's 1914 to 1918
10:35:29.660 you know I'm just
10:35:30.820 throwing that out there but
10:35:32.200 primary decade of World War II
10:35:34.920 starting with you
10:35:38.880 I think she might be right
10:35:40.580 I think it is 1919 I'm pretty sure
10:35:43.260 no it ended in 1918
10:35:44.320 I actually think it's 1919 but okay
10:35:47.260 was there any
10:35:50.440 Was that like November 11th?
10:35:52.980 That's the Marine Corps birthday.
10:35:54.720 1-1-1-1-1.
10:35:55.260 No, no, this is November.
10:35:56.220 Ceasefire.
10:35:56.740 What was the question?
10:35:58.320 Primary decade of World War II.
10:36:01.400 World War II.
10:36:02.860 Primary decade.
10:36:04.160 Wouldn't it be the 1900s?
10:36:07.400 That's the decade, though.
10:36:09.080 What is the decade?
10:36:14.480 60s.
10:36:15.740 The 1600s?
10:36:18.000 60s.
10:36:18.760 60s.
10:36:19.280 Okay, the Beatles.
10:36:21.280 1910. Wasn't it just...
10:36:23.200 World War II.
10:36:24.060 I don't know.
10:36:26.960 Well, World War I happened first.
10:36:29.440 Yes.
10:36:30.860 So it's probably after.
10:36:32.580 For sure after.
10:36:35.740 1930s.
10:36:36.620 1930s, okay.
10:36:38.440 1920s.
10:36:40.300 1930s.
10:36:41.800 Mainly 1940s.
10:36:43.620 40s.
10:36:44.420 40s.
10:36:46.140 30s?
10:36:47.840 1939 to 1945.
10:36:50.440 Yep, exactly.
10:36:51.180 I was going to say 1939 to 1945.
10:36:55.120 It was mainly in the 30s.
10:36:56.440 Brian, who led Italy during World War II?
10:36:59.120 Who led Italy during World War II?
10:37:01.300 World War II?
10:37:02.000 Yeah.
10:37:02.460 Mussolini.
10:37:03.100 Benito Mussolini.
10:37:04.420 And they were actually not our allies.
10:37:06.580 Tojo.
10:37:07.800 What about Japan?
10:37:09.600 Oh, okay, hold on.
10:37:11.560 Oh, it's on the tip of my tongue.
10:37:13.120 Hold on, hold on.
10:37:13.740 Let me...
10:37:14.740 Hirohito?
10:37:17.000 What about the UK?
10:37:18.660 That's the last one.
10:37:19.360 Churchill.
10:37:19.800 Although, at the outbreak of
10:37:22.220 Wait, hold on
10:37:22.920 There was another prime minister
10:37:26.640 At the very early
10:37:28.260 It was Chamberlain
10:37:30.100 Neville Chamberlain
10:37:31.460 And then
10:37:33.580 Winston Churchill
10:37:35.660 Churchill was like the main one
10:37:37.820 Churchill was the main one
10:37:38.780 What was his famous line about the Soviet Union?
10:37:40.780 About women?
10:37:41.600 About the Soviet Union
10:37:42.200 He said something along the lines of
10:37:44.580 Yes, I may be drunk, but you will always be ugly
10:37:47.280 And fat
10:37:48.260 I think he said that.
10:37:49.380 Was he like the British Trump?
10:37:50.540 What was his famous line?
10:37:52.500 I don't.
10:37:52.980 It was just like the whole Iron Curtain thing.
10:37:55.880 It's okay.
10:37:56.600 Can you name a World War II aircraft?
10:37:58.140 You will not tear down this wall.
10:37:59.500 Spitfire.
10:38:01.340 The Stuka dive bomber.
10:38:03.700 Nice.
10:38:04.540 I'm sure I could probably think of some.
10:38:06.200 Mustang.
10:38:06.820 What was Germany's fastest aircraft that they would use to attack?
10:38:12.740 Oh, I wouldn't know that.
10:38:13.900 I think it was like Spitfire, no?
10:38:16.040 That's an American plane.
10:38:17.340 I swear that was German
10:38:19.200 The Spitfire is not German
10:38:21.080 I believe it's either American or British
10:38:23.260 I'm pretty sure it's American
10:38:24.240 Wait do a fact check on this
10:38:25.500 I'm pretty sure the Spitfire was German
10:38:26.680 The Spitfire an English word
10:38:28.400 The Germans had an English word for their plan
10:38:32.240 I'll stand corrected but I thought the Spitfire was German
10:38:34.460 Okay which country had the largest rail gun
10:38:36.980 During World War II
10:38:38.080 Germany
10:38:42.960 It's a German engineering
10:38:45.800 okay uh okay uh how many people and this is going to be how about this how many people died during
10:38:52.980 world war ii multiple choice question one million five million or which one's closer one million
10:38:59.860 no hold on a hundred thousand one million five million or 20 million which is closer
10:39:05.640 for the deaths for world war ii are we talking about war or like which one's closer it wouldn't
10:39:10.700 matter. I'm going to say between one and five. One and five. Twenty million. Five. Five million.
10:39:18.460 Five. Five million. Twenty. Twenty. Twenty. Twenty. Twenty. Five. Five. Twenty. Oh, me? Angelica?
10:39:30.020 Twenty. Oh, okay. All right. I'm going to take a guess. Fifty-five. I was going to say
10:39:36.980 50 uh can you name three k-pop stars wait give us the answer k-pop it's closer to 20 now i could
10:39:45.420 look you do that from k-pop demon hunters no three k-pop stars name three k-pop stars do you know
10:39:54.800 yeah if you know uh hyena psy and jenny name three kardashians
10:40:05.060 um kylie kendall and chloe
10:40:12.120 okay kylie's a jenner oh is it wait question is it we already actually we already talked about
10:40:20.600 these hold on um yeah i'll skip those uh okay hold on there's just a few more
10:40:26.560 Do you
10:40:30.340 Going around the table, do you think your looks are average
10:40:32.580 Below average
10:40:34.760 Or above average
10:40:35.740 Or better, I guess
10:40:37.140 I'm going to say average
10:40:38.200 Average
10:40:39.640 Average
10:40:41.680 Average
10:40:42.720 Average
10:40:43.760 You guys could scoot in to not least like three seconds
10:40:48.320 Above average
10:40:49.640 Average
10:40:50.240 Hello, over here
10:40:53.720 Average
10:40:54.200 Okay, do you think you're charismatic?
10:40:56.560 occasionally no sometimes not particularly tiffany can you give me water one
10:41:05.960 yeah yes most of the time yeah yeah
10:41:13.840 okay do you guys uh maybe just by a show of hands do you think it's sexist for men to have
10:41:20.480 the expectation that women cook clean do laundry and be submissive is it sexist no
10:41:26.480 no no it's a preference okay uh what percentage of men do you think are over six feet oh boy this
10:41:32.320 is crazy this might be okay yeah go ahead 15 15 okay five percent three twenty fourteen i'm a
10:41:44.980 lower answer to ten i was gonna say 50 you know i guess people are you guys are leaning so far
10:41:50.520 away from the mic so you could like preemptively like as the person next to you their sentence
10:41:56.340 is trailing off you could just like instead of burning three seconds you could just like already
10:42:01.640 be up on the mic just saying but what okay go ahead 20 i don't know 12 uh 15 i'm gonna say 20
10:42:11.440 we're talking about america right yeah i was thinking about oh i lost the plot i'm gonna
10:42:15.920 guess 12 i don't know what the question is okay what percentage of men make at least one million
10:42:20.200 dollars a year oh um i'd say four four percent one percent probably just go one right after
10:42:30.400 each other don't make me have to point to you two one one one percent or two percent i say five to
10:42:36.820 ten one zero point one one what percentage of men have yachts that's like point yachts point three
10:42:47.540 i don't know 0.3 0.5 less than one percent 0.2 three less than one for sure 0.1 yeah like one
10:42:59.820 or two it's not a regular thing i want to say 15 0.05 15 percent of men have yachts okay five
10:43:09.300 five percent of men less than one percent okay do any of you keep a list of all the men you've been
10:43:15.020 with on your phone like a list of all the guys you've hooked up with you know kiss count okay
10:43:21.680 nobody uh has anybody show of hands and i'll also answer this have you ever slept with someone the
10:43:27.060 same day you met them really yeah i have there we go there we go good sport i've never yeah
10:43:36.300 if you say so what do you mean if i say if you say so shona okay if you actually believe her
10:43:42.920 Because she mentioned, like, a kiss count.
10:43:45.000 Like, I actually kind of do.
10:43:47.500 Thanks.
10:43:49.240 Has anyone here ever had a threesome, show fans?
10:43:53.660 Nobody?
10:43:54.460 Nobody here at the table?
10:43:56.580 Really?
10:43:57.440 Not even with El Jefe?
10:43:59.160 No.
10:44:00.260 Not with the boss man?
10:44:02.600 Okay.
10:44:03.360 Anyone had a ho phase?
10:44:04.400 I had a ho phase.
10:44:05.140 It's all good.
10:44:06.620 A what?
10:44:07.140 A ho phase.
10:44:07.920 I mean, how long does it have to be to be a phase?
10:44:11.340 It wouldn't take a phase.
10:44:12.340 It could be three dudes.
10:44:14.000 It could be 100 dudes.
10:44:15.080 In one year?
10:44:18.000 Three to 100.
10:44:19.300 That's a big range.
10:44:20.880 Show of hands.
10:44:21.700 Has anyone here ever hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period?
10:44:25.200 Two guys.
10:44:25.920 No.
10:44:26.680 24-hour period?
10:44:28.420 Seven-day period?
10:44:29.800 Seven days.
10:44:30.940 Two guys.
10:44:32.280 Three guys?
10:44:33.680 Keep your hands up.
10:44:34.380 Three guys?
10:44:35.520 No, not three guys.
10:44:36.340 Okay.
10:44:40.700 Shona, do you think men suck?
10:44:42.340 dick only some sometimes what percent what percent of men suck um these days i think 50 50
10:44:50.860 50 no i'm just kidding um hey there's there's levels to this okay there's men that suck a lot
10:44:56.520 there's men that suck a little bit there's men that don't suck okay are men the problem
10:45:00.120 sometimes in society no in totality necessarily are men trash some men what percent what percent
10:45:12.200 1% of men are trash
10:45:13.740 Depends on
10:45:14.840 Depends on
10:45:15.440 The day
10:45:16.480 Depends on my mood
10:45:17.180 Do you hate men?
10:45:19.040 I don't hate men
10:45:19.860 I think you want me to hate men though
10:45:21.080 No I don't want you to hate men
10:45:22.420 And then you can clip me
10:45:23.560 Nah
10:45:24.600 We did that
10:45:26.280 We did that
10:45:27.440 I believe that's it
10:45:29.020 Any final thoughts from anybody
10:45:32.100 Before I wrap this up
10:45:33.060 Final thoughts
10:45:34.220 Speak now forever
10:45:34.860 Hold your beasts
10:45:35.500 What group on the periodic
10:45:39.160 Periodic table is hydrogen?
10:45:41.620 Bro
10:45:41.880 i haven't taken fucking chemistry since fucking high school that's ridiculous alkaline metal
10:45:48.360 huh no wait clip it and ship it boys yeah it's fucking retarded uh okay near the top
10:45:55.480 oh do you think trump is a fascist i wouldn't say a full-on fascist but he has some strange
10:46:03.720 tendencies so he's a fascist does anybody think he's a fascist not a fascist
10:46:11.760 yes you do you think he's a nazi do you think trump is a nazi he's not a nazi but he but he's
10:46:17.280 a fascist i wouldn't say he's a fascist i would say sometimes he says things that raise eyebrows
10:46:24.000 and that might slightly align with some aspects of fascism okay i mean but that's trump i mean
10:46:28.220 you don't know how trump talks him more so though i don't like what he's doing with iran right now
10:46:35.580 what do you think of the usa i guess i'll be the final one i think it's a great country and i'm
10:46:39.720 glad I lived here.
10:46:41.580 She actually knows more American history than
10:46:43.420 most Americans, so let's just give her some
10:46:45.620 props there. I think she just brought up the
10:46:47.540 things that she knows. No, she's pretty sharp.
10:46:49.700 I think you're butthurt that she knows
10:46:51.640 more than you.
10:46:53.580 She might actually get this, because it's not too
10:46:57.300 rare of knowledge. Who brought the Industrial Revolution
10:46:59.580 over from the United Kingdom?
10:47:01.640 Who was the man that did it?
10:47:04.920 Barney.
10:47:05.700 It was in the late 1700s.
10:47:09.180 1700s.
10:47:10.220 1797.
10:47:10.820 Julius Caesar.
10:47:13.160 Is he an American?
10:47:14.400 No, he was a British and then he moved to America and then spilled all the secrets for how to build the factories.
10:47:19.380 Shakespeare.
10:47:20.460 Samuel Slater.
10:47:21.320 King Henry.
10:47:22.040 Samuel who?
10:47:22.740 Samuel Slater.
10:47:24.540 Samuel Slater.
10:47:25.580 Did you hear?
10:47:26.560 Yeah.
10:47:26.920 Got it.
10:47:27.480 See?
10:47:27.820 Yes, Shona.
10:47:28.460 See, like I can bring a random fact.
10:47:29.800 There you go.
10:47:30.480 I know.
10:47:31.120 He just got his ego back.
10:47:33.240 That was a random fact?
10:47:34.420 I'm using your logic against you.
10:47:36.420 What's my logic?
10:47:37.460 They're like, oh, you didn't know the president before SDR?
10:47:39.440 I was trolling, right?
10:47:41.000 No, because immigrants...
10:47:42.600 Because now that I called you out about your logic being parted...
10:47:44.460 He is so sassy.
10:47:45.620 You now...
10:47:45.900 These allegations might be true.
10:47:47.860 Yeah, they are true.
10:47:48.860 No, next time you need to take that red tie off and come back with a rainbow tie.
10:47:52.060 A rainbow tie.
10:47:52.400 Okay.
10:47:52.920 Pride month special.
10:47:54.160 But if immigrants have to learn this American history, like presidents, because they do in
10:47:59.160 order to become an American citizen...
10:48:00.580 Let's see here.
10:48:01.920 Troy, thank for the 10.
10:48:03.180 Blake, thank for the 10.
10:48:04.220 Via Venmo.
10:48:04.720 Appreciate it.
10:48:05.520 All right, guys.
10:48:06.080 We're going to get this wrapped up here.
10:48:07.840 I'm trying to just think if there was anything else that I'm forgetting.
10:48:13.460 Name a continent that starts with A.
10:48:16.300 Oh, it's 4 a.m.
10:48:18.340 Oh, fuck.
10:48:18.920 You already asked the continent questions earlier.
10:48:21.340 We already went through all that.
10:48:22.060 Name a continent that starts with A.
10:48:23.240 Why are you targeting her all of a sudden?
10:48:25.300 Name another one.
10:48:27.260 She's dying, folks.
10:48:28.300 I am.
10:48:28.820 She's dying.
10:48:29.380 America.
10:48:30.200 Get her on a ventilator stat.
10:48:33.220 On the continent of Australia, name one country.
10:48:35.800 Riley, Riley, Riley, Riley.
10:48:36.640 Your mama.
10:48:37.440 Hey, do you know the entire lyrics to Eminem's song Superman?
10:48:43.480 I bet you don't.
10:48:45.060 I don't want to know that.
10:48:46.600 This guy.
10:48:47.300 Yeah.
10:48:48.000 That's right.
10:48:48.360 Do you know all the lyrics to Blank Space by Taylor Swift?
10:48:50.600 What the fuck?
10:48:52.620 I do, and I'm the number one Taylor Swift.
10:48:54.520 Do you know all the lyrics to Nicki Minaj?
10:48:56.680 Taylor Swift is a cancer and a plague on this society.
10:49:00.040 I agree.
10:49:00.800 I don't like Taylor Swift.
10:49:02.700 What's that song that goes like...
10:49:04.360 Do you know that?
10:49:07.780 Wait.
10:49:08.940 She made up this whole story with her manager
10:49:11.480 to pretend she's like some boss bitch that won her contract back over.
10:49:15.300 Does anybody know that?
10:49:16.560 Yeah, I lost a betting field.
10:49:17.980 Yeah, wait.
10:49:18.460 How's it go?
10:49:18.940 It's unwritten.
10:49:19.880 What?
10:49:21.900 How did you get that from that?
10:49:24.100 Because I'm a musician, though.
10:49:25.940 Feel the rain on your head.
10:49:27.300 She gets that shit.
10:49:28.320 All right, guys.
10:49:28.780 I got to wrap it up.
10:49:29.640 This is, I think, our longest stream ever.
10:49:31.440 We have world record.
10:49:32.740 Yeah.
10:49:32.940 World Record Whatever Podcast with Shona in the studio, with Riley in the studio, with
10:49:38.460 I forgot.
10:49:39.540 Someone who's dying of the names.
10:49:40.620 Fuck, my bad.
10:49:41.640 Just kidding.
10:49:42.120 I know your names.
10:49:43.880 Brian, we're quizzing you.
10:49:46.100 What are all of our names?
10:49:47.360 No.
10:49:48.120 Oh, your name is Gertrude.
10:49:50.980 Don't act like you forgot.
10:49:52.160 My name is the town name.
10:49:53.560 Her name is Amaranth.
10:49:55.780 He knows her name.
10:49:56.440 Amaranth?
10:49:58.080 Amarist.
10:49:58.560 Yeah, you're close.
10:50:00.140 Your name is Diamond.
10:50:02.040 No.
10:50:02.520 baxter we're not gonna go with that your name is um samuel slater i was about to say sam actually
10:50:10.400 that's a very important guy actually uh okay guys uh so we got uh i gotta wrap the show but
10:50:16.020 wow congrats guys we should we stay another 10 to push it to 11 hours nah i don't think so
10:50:21.300 you know what i'll wait for another stream might collapse on live stream do you have
10:50:26.800 Do you have COVID or something?
10:50:28.860 Well, actually, when I flew in here.
10:50:29.940 Should we just stay up and see the sunrise?
10:50:31.960 We've never had the sunrise.
10:50:34.780 Wait, what time is sunrise?
10:50:35.920 I flew and I went to Earth.
10:50:36.840 Is that like...
10:50:37.980 Yeah, I gotta get out of here.
10:50:40.600 No, no, we'll wrap.
10:50:41.640 We'll wrap.
10:50:42.020 One day, I think I'll do a 24-hour stream, though.
10:50:45.300 One day.
10:50:46.020 One day.
10:50:46.420 Not tonight, though.
10:50:47.480 Ain't no one making through that.
10:50:48.660 You're gonna need more than pizza.
10:50:49.920 I'll make it through that.
10:50:51.760 I've been up for 24 hours at this point.
10:50:54.200 Oh, shit.
10:50:55.060 w asian girl yeah i woke up at 5 30 years let's go she killed it with the math she did
10:51:01.140 you're very good you're very good at math i'm jealous oh thank you yeah oh man congrats guys
10:51:08.240 you guys are part of history longest whatever i believe it's the longest whatever podcast
10:51:12.780 ever and i was on here there you go bigger and longer you should have seen all the rage
10:51:18.840 I only mentioned black people
10:51:22.680 like 14 times, okay?
10:51:24.320 You might look at me
10:51:29.080 and be like, my team
10:51:30.760 they want to get out of here
10:51:32.720 you guys might look at me like, Brian, why did this go
10:51:35.000 so long? I want to
10:51:36.820 place blame
10:51:38.100 you talked too much, you talked
10:51:40.980 too much, you talked too much, you talked
10:51:43.040 too much, and you talked too much
10:51:44.620 you guys were way too talkative tonight
10:51:46.720 you forgot
10:51:47.200 You guys talked way too much.
10:51:52.600 It was really rude.
10:51:53.640 I wish you gave a bit more space
10:51:55.960 for Anna to speak, to be honest.
10:51:58.060 I would have appreciated that.
10:51:59.800 A little more space for me,
10:52:01.640 for Anna over there,
10:52:03.460 and for Shona to speak, and for Angelica.
10:52:06.280 Angelica needed a lot of time to speak.
10:52:07.520 She really got crowded out.
10:52:09.140 You guys were very greedy, all of you.
10:52:12.020 I actually think you guys
10:52:14.160 should apologize for how rude you were.
10:52:16.260 i'm so sorry i'm such a bitch i'm bowing so let me bow down so apologetic right now there you go
10:52:23.600 i should have made i should have made myself break longer well you said if you're coming
10:52:28.560 i would never speak again you said if you're coming from another state make the best of it
10:52:33.080 don't come here talking all this high stuff and then come here and sit so i do that and then it's
10:52:37.040 like shut up well what do you want from me it's damned if i do damned if i don't you know it's
10:52:42.800 I flew from Arkansas.
10:52:44.400 I went to urgent care on Friday.
10:52:46.440 She's doing good again.
10:52:47.140 I was completely sick, and I'm still here.
10:52:49.280 You're sick?
10:52:49.660 You're sick.
10:52:51.240 Obviously, my asthma.
10:52:52.060 Oh, from my eyes.
10:52:53.680 My asthma.
10:52:54.500 Like, I have a...
10:52:54.820 Okay, okay.
10:52:55.180 I swear to God, if I start coughing tomorrow, I'm going to come by.
10:52:57.600 No, no, it's my asthma.
10:52:58.540 She's going to stab you and shit on you.
10:53:00.400 I let you live.
10:53:01.400 It's not.
10:53:01.860 It's just my asthma.
10:53:02.740 It's like...
10:53:03.100 I really rubbed off my brain.
10:53:04.760 Have you...
10:53:05.920 Can you show us your knuckles?
10:53:08.020 Like, put your knuckles?
10:53:09.680 Like this?
10:53:10.700 That's very random.
10:53:11.620 Wow.
10:53:11.920 Is there something you want to tell us?
10:53:14.960 I hit my hand on the dresser.
10:53:16.540 The dresser.
10:53:17.300 Is that what you call a man?
10:53:19.000 No.
10:53:20.560 Hey, I have a scar too.
10:53:21.660 Violence.
10:53:22.300 Wow.
10:53:22.780 I do call it a man.
10:53:23.720 We are the same as Parker.
10:53:25.200 And I hit my hand on the dresser.
10:53:26.220 There's a lot of violent, abusive women in this podcast.
10:53:28.700 If I hit someone, I didn't say I would hit a woman.
10:53:33.140 At least we know my guy deserves this.
10:53:34.780 I would never hit a woman.
10:53:35.840 Oh, no.
10:53:36.140 Mine's like mine's a scar from a...
10:53:37.940 Hey.
10:53:39.400 Tiffany's actually...
10:53:40.480 She's very violent, Tiffany.
10:53:43.040 From what I heard, she...
10:53:44.500 I would be violent if I worked for you, too,
10:53:46.660 with how you were talking to her earlier.
10:53:48.360 Is this rage bait?
10:53:50.060 I was a little sassy today.
10:53:52.600 I was a little sassy.
10:53:53.460 You've got to treat your employees well.
10:53:54.960 You're like Ebeneezer Scrooge over here.
10:53:57.320 I am Ebeneezer.
10:53:58.420 I am fucking Scrooge.
10:54:00.140 I like that.
10:54:00.760 That's a good one.
10:54:01.640 All right, let me wrap it.
10:54:02.660 Okay, Gigi.
10:54:04.140 Well played.
10:54:04.860 Gigi.
10:54:05.820 Well played.
10:54:06.680 Thank you, guys.
10:54:07.840 Last call.
10:54:08.660 Hit the like button, please.
10:54:10.480 Put the little like the video thing up
10:54:14.220 Guys like the video if you enjoyed the stream
10:54:16.620 Please leave a nice comment
10:54:18.400 Once the live ends
10:54:19.380 I read them positivity is nice
10:54:21.980 Helps with the algorithm
10:54:23.160 Thank you for tuning in tonight
10:54:24.480 You could have been anywhere in the world
10:54:25.920 But you're here with me
10:54:27.200 I appreciate that
10:54:28.960 Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates and supports the show
10:54:32.700 Big shout out to everybody
10:54:34.120 Who sent in a TTS
10:54:35.720 Especially big shout out to our boy
10:54:37.600 Robert Tanner
10:54:38.740 i don't know if you're still watching but three champagne pops this guy's a fucking legend thank
10:54:42.880 you man really appreciate it we're gonna be live sunday 5 p.m pacific uh i might do something during
10:54:48.640 the week potentially but probably not but who knows uh any girls who want to be on the show
10:54:52.740 dm out whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara i promise the show will not be
10:54:56.920 this long come on it uh oh sevens show up oh sevens this is what happens when an overbook
10:55:03.720 actually like everybody shows up so
10:55:05.840 fuck. 07's
10:55:07.660 I feel like we're forgetting something but at this point
10:55:09.940 tough
10:55:11.440 07's in the chat
10:55:13.500 goodnight guys
10:55:14.900 and we will
10:55:17.700 see you guys next time
10:55:19.980 alright goodnight
10:55:20.740 alright really quick before everybody gets
10:55:23.980 up we are wrapped up just curious did anyone
10:55:26.080 want to did anybody
10:55:27.780 like lie about anything just curious
10:55:29.780 we're still alive
10:55:32.080 aren't we?
10:55:32.520 No, it's wrapped.
10:55:34.040 No, it's wrapped.
10:55:34.760 Turn the cameras off.
10:55:35.980 I don't believe you.
10:55:36.780 No, the stream's off.
10:55:37.800 Yeah, I'm actually a conservative.
10:55:39.600 Did anybody, like, want to reveal...
10:55:42.100 Did anybody, like, lie about their body count?
10:55:44.680 Like, want to reveal their true body count?
10:55:45.720 If the camera's not rolling, I'll say.
10:55:48.580 Don't ruin a relationship.
10:55:49.800 Come on.
10:55:51.300 I didn't think it was 1920s.
10:55:59.220 Brian, what's your body count?
10:56:01.020 Yeah.
10:56:01.400 I'm a virgin.
10:56:01.900 I'm looking for a woman to be my first
10:56:05.460 I've never seen this
10:56:07.100 podcast end
10:56:08.680 I've always fallen asleep
10:56:10.100 I'm sorry I have new staff
10:56:12.740 and they did not
10:56:13.580 Nate bro Tiffany what the fuck
10:56:16.600 Tiffany
10:56:17.480 Tiffany's life matters
10:56:23.920 Sounds like a set up question
10:56:25.400 It was a set up question
10:56:27.140 We're so close to 11 hours
10:56:31.900 yeah we're three minutes was that still live we're three minutes should we just
10:56:50.580 wait wait chat should we go should we just wait no i'm like should we make it to 11
10:56:56.380 Should we make it to 11?
10:56:57.480 Literally three minutes out.
10:56:59.080 If I don't get a fucking TTS,
10:57:01.320 I need a $200 TTS.
10:57:03.480 And I'll go to 11 hours.
10:57:05.320 Three minutes.
10:57:06.900 If I don't get it,
10:57:08.220 at 10.59.59,
10:57:11.700 you hit that end button.
10:57:12.940 What?
10:57:13.320 Is it still rolling?
10:57:16.380 It's still going.
10:57:17.080 Oh, God.
10:57:17.820 Okay, that's cool.
10:57:19.820 11 hours.
10:57:21.000 And look at all these people in the chat.
10:57:22.480 They were here for it.
10:57:23.520 I need to see a fucking TTS.
10:57:24.880 Otherwise, I'm depriving you.
10:57:26.780 Yeah, it's a grift.
10:57:27.800 Yeah, I'm fucking grifting.
10:57:29.260 I need to see.
10:57:30.320 We got two minutes and 30 seconds left.
10:57:33.040 I need to see a TTS right now, $200 TTS.
10:57:36.380 If I don't, I'm depriving you.
10:57:38.900 I'm going to fucking deprive you guys.
10:57:40.480 If you get the $200 TTS, you have to reveal your actual body count.
10:57:44.300 Nah.
10:57:45.180 I can charge more for that.
10:57:47.400 Give us a ballpark.
10:57:48.120 Ten grand.
10:57:48.780 One Bitcoin.
10:57:49.800 I'll do it.
10:57:50.220 Okay, well.
10:57:50.740 One Bitcoin.
10:57:51.480 You got something?
10:57:52.020 I mean, hey, at this rate, dude, I used to have half of one, actually.
10:57:54.740 Oh, shit.
10:57:55.320 Nice.
10:57:57.600 Okay.
10:57:58.280 Hey, I'll give it one minute, but I'll end it at 10.59 if I don't see a TTS.
10:58:03.100 Come on.
10:58:03.700 Is this a little grift?
10:58:04.840 A little grifty?
10:58:05.680 Is this...
10:58:05.900 It's okay.
10:58:06.280 Am I abusing?
10:58:06.780 Take the L.
10:58:07.080 Please take the L.
10:58:08.000 Am I abusing?
10:58:09.540 No, we're so close.
10:58:10.420 I'll give them...
10:58:11.060 They have 50 seconds.
10:58:12.240 You need to take advantage of the parasocial relationship.
10:58:14.880 There you go.
10:58:15.300 Okay.
10:58:15.600 There you have it, folks.
10:58:16.900 Okay.
10:58:18.140 Okay.
10:58:18.660 There's a 20 that's not a TTS, but you can show that.
10:58:21.280 You can show it.
10:58:22.680 Big Labia Matter, BLM.
10:58:24.240 oh oh shit okay well there it is daddy nevin donated 200 okay oh yeah she's the goat nice
10:58:34.440 hey this guy was talking shit about me earlier i forgot what it was you just remember you just
10:58:38.420 remember the name say his name again it is uh daddy nevin that's oh shit oh shit he called what
10:58:44.240 did he say yeah most people call him nevin but i have my own name what does it say this is for
10:58:50.380 Heck yeah.
10:58:51.380 The SimTax.
10:58:52.400 Thank you.
10:58:53.120 The SimTax.
10:58:53.580 The SimTax paid.
10:58:55.680 We go for, it looks like another minute.
10:58:58.380 We have a minute there on the, you know what would be fucked up?
10:59:01.620 You said 10.59.
10:59:03.200 What's that?
10:59:04.740 You said 10.59.
10:59:06.160 Yeah, I have to go to the left.
10:59:07.160 College is a scam.
10:59:08.280 Young women should not go to college.
10:59:10.740 Although I'm wondering if our OBS is different than, I probably have to let it go for like
10:59:20.280 to 11 and 30 seconds or something like that i mean we could just do like 12 at that point
10:59:26.440 please you're so right right i can't do that fucking nate over there is gonna fucking
10:59:32.200 just let me talk and we'll make time his katana
10:59:35.320 really i was gonna ask what denomination are you not denominational okay i'm figuring it out
10:59:42.640 I'm going to do a Christian.
10:59:43.480 Huh?
10:59:44.160 Riley.
10:59:44.720 Riley, call me daddy.
10:59:46.440 It's okay.
10:59:47.720 This is a safe place.
10:59:49.020 Say it in a high-pitched voice.
10:59:50.160 No, I will not do that.
10:59:51.400 I know you want to, Riley.
10:59:52.860 I will do some.
10:59:54.080 Never mind.
10:59:54.980 What will you do, Ryan?
10:59:57.160 I'll do an accent.
10:59:59.780 Do an Indian accent.
11:00:01.120 I don't know how to do that.
11:00:02.600 I can do like a southern accent, though.
11:00:04.640 We hit 11.
11:00:05.520 You have to do more than just southern.
11:00:06.280 I'll let it go for like 30 seconds just so it doesn't fuck it up on YouTube.
11:00:09.820 It will be like 10.59 or something.
11:00:11.900 So there's an easy accent.
11:00:12.640 that in like a british accent i had a childhood friend sub on twitch
11:00:16.220 out of nowhere i saw his name pop up and i was like yeah my brother-in-law subbed to twitch
11:00:20.800 while the stream was on shout out hey jake i can do like an upper crusty british accent like
11:00:29.740 tiffany dear and go get me my loafers tiffany go
11:00:34.900 quite
11:00:37.060 chop chop Tiffany
11:00:38.680 get me my loafers
11:00:40.020 get me some bagel bites
11:00:42.380 I don't think they're amused
11:00:45.860 they're not amused
11:00:46.740 they don't like it
11:00:47.400 it was okay
11:00:48.180 your southern accent's better
11:00:51.260 yep okay
11:00:52.780 guys like the video
11:00:54.700 07's in the chat
11:00:55.900 07's in the chat
11:00:57.460 we need another donation from daddy now
11:01:00.240 we got wrapped
11:01:02.480 deuces
11:01:03.440 you guys were good sports thank you everybody
11:01:05.560 you guys were a wonderful panel I really enjoyed
11:01:07.600 you guys thank you so much for
11:01:09.520 coming on and for
11:01:11.600 you know being patient we did go
11:01:13.660 really fucking late
11:01:15.500 yeah
11:01:16.240 thanks for the dominoes
11:01:18.660 it closed I was going to get it
11:01:21.800 but it fucking closed so I had to give you
11:01:23.680 poverty bagel buddy
11:01:24.900 anyways
11:01:27.180 but thank you guys you guys were fantastic
11:01:29.220 really appreciate it oh seven's in the chat
11:01:31.600 guys uh we we made history tonight longest whatever stream ever hey we'll do a 12 we'll
11:01:37.680 do a 12 hour one sometime soon all right 07s guys good night and we'll see you next time good night
11:01:43.200 guys