HEATED DEBATE! She Got Her Ex DEPORTED?! Excommunicated Mormon⧸LDS?! Woke E-GIRL?! | Dating Talk 289
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In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we introduce ourselves and talk about what we do for a living, our jobs, and what we like to do with our time. We hope you enjoy this episode!
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welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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hellscape i'm your host brian atlas i i do want to apologize uh for our delay guys
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we're going to just jump right in. I overbooked today. So we have 13 people total, including
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myself. So usually if we overbook, it's a little bit, you know, harder to get everything all set
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up, you know, that we got to bring on extra mics and it's just a bit longer of a process. So I do
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apologize for the delay there. I overbook because almost like clockwork, we can expect the day of
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two three four people are gonna uh no show the day before people are gonna or flake whatever
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but uh everybody was very reliable today so that's good but also uh makes for a very crowded
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table here so uh i do want to apologize for the delay the delay excuse me uh we're gonna have the
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guests introduce themselves so tell us your name age occupation uh where you're from and your
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education level all right i'm shona i'm 18 and i'm originally from the bay but i'm a freshman
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in college right now all right what are you studying i'm studying psychological and brain
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sciences okay welcome what about you hi my name is griselda i'm originally from mexico but i
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currently live in san antonio texas i'm a business business owner and i just got my gd here in these
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states age 33 33 okay what about you my name is i'm 25 i am a stay-at-home mom i do only fans and
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i run a maid cafe a maid cafe okay what's that um it's like a kind it's like kind of like a
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kai guy idol where you like serve people food but they also pay you to like dance and where are you
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from? Las Vegas. Vegas. Okay. What about you? My name is Lisey. I'm 21. I run a music venue in
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Utah. I don't go to college, nothing like that. Any college? Nope. Okay. And you're from Utah,
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Salt Lake City? Provo. Are you LDS? No, not anymore. Used to be though? Yeah, when I was a
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kid okay all right what about you my name is barbara adamson i am from missouri i am 38 years
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old i am the media coordinator for a pro-life non-profit i'm a writer i dabble in content
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creation and i have a master of arts in english and a master of arts in communication all right
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welcome my name is emily mac i'm originally from new york and now i live in south florida my level
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of education is high school uh age uh 30 30 okay what about you hi my name is Frankie um I'm
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originally from Florida I moved to Maryland um I studied college there I studied history
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I have a minor in sociology um I have my own podcast as well as I work in construction I
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am marketing team uh age 31 and wait you you work in construction yes I'm on the marketing team yes
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i'm the head of the marketing team which means it's just me really so
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i don't know if i've heard somebody frame something like that i work in construction
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dot dot dot on the marketing team so you have an office job yes okay so you know you know those
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statistics you know those statistics where it's like 97 percent of people in the logging industry
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are men i'm pretty sure it's a hundred percent but it's like they're somehow counting women
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who work in the air conditioned office that like that uh mess up the statistics on that
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uh okay so you're in the you do construction yes i have been in the field but that's as a project
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manager which is an actual field work it's more of like measuring and taking pictures have you
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ever worn a hard hat yes when i had to get on a roof as part of your job yes okay all right
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what about you um i'm hannah i'm 33 i am originally from delaware but i live in utah now
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um full-time mom i kind of skipped the college i did some college credits but i stuck with certs
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like esthetician school microblading personal training okay all right what about you i'm joy
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i'm 26 um i'm born and raised and still reside in texas just a high school diploma and uh what do
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you do for work oh i'm a night auditor for marriott for a hotel yeah okay got it what about
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you hi i'm anna i currently live in bentonville arkansas um i was in the marine so i kind of
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traveled around i'm not from there but i reside there now um i up until january i worked at amazon
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for seven years as a program manager but i was affected by the mass ai layoffs so i'm currently
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in my entrepreneur life and um well also maybe finding a job i don't know kind of enjoying the
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time off um and what was i'm 41 and you were in the marines i was in the marines uh officer or
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enlisted enlisted oh and i have a master's degree in business and a bachelor's in business and a
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bachelor's in communications and an associate's degree and i'm contemplating going back to school
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for spanish for spanish yes okay do you need to go to school can't you just like i can teach you
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and so my first language is in spanish in the uh what rank did you rise to in the marines
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e4 how long were you uh in four years four years okay um were you deployed i was not
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okay but i did live in japan for two years okay gotcha you were overseas yes and uh let's see
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uh what was your job in the military you're gonna laugh so i was postal and our tagline
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used to be no one goes postal like a u.s marine so i did the mail but everyone loved us and it
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got me so many like hookups like hey like the when we would have the midnight curfews in okinawa
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the cops would let me through you know what i mean like and if if i wanted some free food at
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chow hall they would you know as long as I delivered their packages on time so okay and so
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you had like a mail truck and you'd drive around or yeah and so people think like that's all you
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do but you also still have to do marine stuff like I was still out in the field you still have
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to shoot every marine's a rifleman but yeah yes I was I did the mail at the during the day drove
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the mail trucks and all the other things so yep and uh I don't know if has anybody else been in
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the military yeah um even if you're going to have a a job like that in the military you still have
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to do like everyone across the different branches too right you have to do the basic training is
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that correct correct yes interesting yeah i was wondering like is that anyways well don't have
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an ask we're here just say it well i was thinking about uh when i was in i only women made up five
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percent of the marine corps just as an fyi when i was do are women and i think it's changed recently
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can can women uh see frontline combat um yes and they've been able to for a long time i mean
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back during iraq and stuff they had women who served in the chow hall shooting weapons out of
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the backs of trucks so yep it just changed a lot like my ex-husband was a green beret and then they
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like now you can actually go through as a woman well and i was in from 05 to 09 so they've been
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allowing you were 05 09 yeah and so they've been allowing women um in combat positions even if
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they're not in combat roles they were out on the front if they want there was also a um program
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called the lioness program and so that was women who would have to pat down the women who wanted
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to come on base to make sure they didn't have any ieds strapped to them or anything so fun yeah
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Nice. Yeah, no, I guess the reason I was kind of contemplating that the other day, I was thinking that because now I believe they changed the rules where there used to be, and I forgot the specific term, but it used to be like there were gendered physical requirements.
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So it used to be, I think, they had lower, and this might be for the special forces, I believe.
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They had to lower the requirements for the women.
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Well, I think they have to lower the, across the entire military, the requirement, because, you know, you're going into boot camp, or you're just a fresh recruit.
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You have to pass some physical test at the very forefront, correct?
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So women, I think there's like running, I think there's probably, I don't know the exact, like maybe push-ups, you have to maybe do pull-ups, I'm not entirely sure.
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So women can run slower, they can, I don't know if there's a weightlifting component, but they have to do less pull-ups, maybe there's sit-ups, they have to do less of those, there's less push-ups.
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Yeah. I was, I was thinking that, uh, maybe, I don't know if, if they're changing the rules
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essentially to now women will not ever basically see, uh, now your base could get attacked. And
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under that circumstance, I suppose a woman might see combat, but most of these women are not like
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busting down doors to my understanding, uh, like doing target acquisition in Afghanistan,
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at least when we were there some women were yes so women were on teams doing doing building uh
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what what's the term when you're like um uh trying to enter like a building what was that
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there's doing sweeps there's like a term for that i don't know i don't know if they were in
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buildings but when i was at boot camp and our combat instructors were teaching us they did
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mention being on the back of convoys and shooting weapons so when you're clearing a building like
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clearing a building instead yeah and then also they were in convoys they're not door kickers is
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what the chat and some reaching infiltrating something like that yeah yeah um and i'm just
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going to speak for the ring corps i wasn't in any other branch of service but the ring corps is the
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hardest as far as uh what height weight regulations it's the longest boot camp it's the hardest boot
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camp we trained alongside we and the ring corps i think it's changed but when i was in we weren't
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allowed to train with the men just kind of alongside with if the with the men if that
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makes sense yeah and it wasn't until we graduated that we went to if you were in special forces you
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went to a special force school school of infantry but if you weren't in special forces you went to
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marine combat training and so then that's when we trained alongside with the men and um and we
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learned everything that the men were learning the entire time but of course there's going to be no
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denial men are stronger i believe just from my personal experience in the military women don't
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belong on the front lines um but that doesn't mean women aren't on the front front lines and
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they are and it's admirable and i and i know that i know a marine woman that her her helicopter
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crashed she's pretty well known in the marine community but she lost her leg i mean so women
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have seen combat for sure well i mean i suppose they do and maybe they're in a convoy and the
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convoy gets ambushed or something but women do not see combat to the same degree uh as men do
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and i i do wonder if it is the case like let's say in some scenario where we're just like
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churning through men like we're we're in a ground war and the men are just they're dying and we have
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to replace them there could conceivably be a situation where or a base say a base gets attacked
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now look the united states military is the most powerful military in the world uh you know there
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there is no other military that can really match up to the United States.
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But let's say there was a military base that got attacked and basically all
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the personnel on the base are basically, okay, go grab a gun.
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Even if you work in the kitchen, even if you work in the mail room,
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like you do, it seems to me like if you would have to, let's say,
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and then some of the frontline troops died and you're like, Oh shit,
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we got to pull the people out of the kitchen there.
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If we've made a determination that women are not as capable as men when it comes to being soldiers, and if there's even bars to even being in combat positions for most or even all women, it seems like a waste of resources to even put them through the basic training to learn how to shoot a rifle if there isn't a likelihood.
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Well, it's not just a likelihood, because even a male who's just the chef, is he going to ever shoot a gun?
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But in the situation that we ever need to pull from these reserve troops that are the more in assistant roles,
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it seems to me if we were to compare the men in the assistant roles to the women in the assistant roles,
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the men are going to be way more effective soldiers.
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So it just seems like a waste to put these women through like rifle training and combat training and basic training to begin with.
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Okay, so let's talk about the history of women in the military.
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When we started putting women in the military, it was because two relieved the men from these mundane postal jobs, you know, cook jobs, so they could go and fight the front lines.
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So one could argue, like, when you go to war, they're still at a base, they're still at camp, and you still need postal, you still need the chow hall, you still need all these things.
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So if a woman wants to serve, let him serve.
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I do not agree with lowering the standards if a woman wants to be in the front lines, which I don't even agree to.
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But if she does, I think they should meet the standards of what a man can do.
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But we all know physically men are stronger than women, right?
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So, but I do think that there's a purpose because I like the idea of freeing the men
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Like we can't have fat people serving in the military.
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So even if a woman does pass the physical minimum requirements that the men also pass,
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you also have to realize that they'll get their period once a month and they're basically useless.
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so that's also a big issue but also it extends beyond their physical capability and also their
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mental capability like have you ever been to a restaurant and seen like a male waiter cry now
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female waitresses bro they're breaking down like oh my god it's so busy what happens when a woman's
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getting shot at no i think they just break down yeah so even if they pass let's talk about the
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men too it's like it's an instinct for a man to want to run after a woman and protect and save
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yeah and also the other part of it is like if a woman's in the military she's on a convoy or
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whatever they they capture her and they're like hey we're gonna rape your female uh you know um
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fellow soldier in front of you we're gonna peel your eyes open we're gonna rape her in front of
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you spill all the secrets any man would spill that i probably would even if it would cause
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america to fall i would spill those secrets i can't watch that i can't yeah i would not want
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to see that happen but if they said hey we're gonna kill your fellow soldier chat or whatever
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i'd be like bro i'm not giving you the secrets right right they're like we're gonna rape this
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woman in front of you i'd be like bro take it right so that's also another issue they can use
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it as a as a way to um demoralize not demoralize well and i've had friends get pregnant over there
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and and have to come back so they send that send them over and they're pregnant and guess what they
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have to go back so um i agree you know in a sense there but how do they get pregnant i don't know
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the birds but i still have something to say what do you mean that women are useless when they're
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in their period well they're not useless periods every month i mean they're not useless but they're
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obviously less effective at being i don't think so i mean i know so i'm as capable as any other
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day i work in a kitchen i used to be a servant i'm a business owner i mean i can do the same
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thing as my chef does why do you want to give me an fyi so i feel like that's very okay can you do
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like can you do like a 10 mile run in like an hour well can you do that i have if i have the
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training for that probably yes but again like i probably can't do it either i feel like that
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comment was very out of place saying that we're useless when when we are on their well not not
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entirely useless but like you're not going to be as good okay okay you know what i mean by useless
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obviously you're not useless but like for the amount of food that you have to eat for all the
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logistics where people have to supply stuff to you through the supply chain in the military
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it's not worth having you out in the middle east if you're going to be like a soldier that's halfway
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useless for five days out of a month so except you're not halfway loose i just think that we
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can still do everything i mean nowadays there's tampons a lot of things that you can put up but
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also you have to keep in mind the mental capability of women it's not meant to deal with stress
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naturally well i also want to point out too that a lot of us don't get our periods while in the
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especially during boot camp and stuff if you're physically active and if you're not eating as
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much as you're out putting with physical activity we don't get periods so a lot of women who are
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on their periods so but i like i said to an extent like so my job i was postal and so they used to
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put the special forces guys who came back really messed up from war in our unit and these men would
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pour everything that they witnessed out to me bawling like grown-ass men that I still think
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about these stories to this day of the things that they witnessed and I as a mother just can't
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even imagine and fathom witnessing that as a woman like and how traumatized and they are
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traumatized they come back traumatized and their men are supposed to be mentally more yeah I do
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have to move it on okay age or intro Angelica 29 um I studied English psychology math and computer
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science and i'm an influencer and i flew in from dc you're from dc okay uh go ahead yeah my name
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is riley nemy i'm 21 years old i went to high school for six months and i'm currently the
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owner of a business that does stuff with political campaigns and i also do political content online
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and do campus debates just like charlie kirk did all right uh welcome everybody so uh really quick
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i'll do the uh intro i need to do the introduction guys so uh actually first we do have a tts that
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came through i just sorry uh desert jorge for the delay on this i had to get through the intros
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donated two hundred dollars thank you man bricks and happy news this week with sophie rain and your
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first child ah yes don't forget the dna test and no state involved with marriage if those work
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the two of you will live happily ever after raising your seven sons yep yeah uh really quick
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on the on the x there nathan can you on my personal ex you're gonna have to scroll down to
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april 1st post so i on april 1st i uh i posted and people got kind of bent out of shape about it
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i posted a across social media that um me and sophie rain the infamous only fans creator
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who I guess makes 50 million dollars a year out earns LeBron James uh that I impregnated her and
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we're expecting a child um and people kind of somehow believed this AI photo I thought it was
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a pretty obvious uh joke do you have it did you find it uh go ahead pull up the photo uh so
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now this is also me when I was like 40 pounds lighter too uh but it was just like AI or whatever
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I mean at least they made you 40 pounds lighter
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Also, why are the Germans not looking at women for the current military law?
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We're going to maybe wait until we're done with the intros to do the champagne pop.
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There's a post about, like, Germany's preparing to wage war.
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i think it was like from two days ago or something uh you're gonna have to scroll up to find it it
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i'm trying to think if there's a photo it's just a photo of text basically uh it's on the x it's
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more recent than the sophie rain only uh april fool's thing do you have it it is on the x you
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just should be scrolling probably scrolling up you'll find it i believe i posted it two days
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ago. I think that should be either April 3rd, April 2nd. Do you have it? It's in reference to
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the like mandatory you have to give the German government notice if you're leaving. That is
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correct. Yeah, so basically Germany passed this new law where only for men, only for men. I think
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if you're between the ages of 17 and 45, if you're planning to leave Germany for more than three
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months, you need to check in. I think you actually have to, not just check in, you have to get
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permission from the Bundeswehr, which is like the, I don't know what the translation for that is,
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the German military essentially. Do you have it? Pull it up please. That's from the Berliner
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Zeitung. I'm not sure if I'm, any German speakers here? No? Okay. New conscription rule. Young men
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are no longer allowed to leave germany without permission uh so that's uh ages 17 and 45 must
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obtain permission if they intend to leave germany for more than three months they need to obtain
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this permission from the german armed forces that's that male that's the male privilege
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female oppression that we're always talking about so germany seems to be gearing up for war
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uh so liquidate your crypto i'm just kidding uh but uh thank you robert tanner for the big
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thousand dollar tts can we get some w's in the chat for robert tanner that's a massive
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uh very generous contribution for him thank you man really appreciate it let me write a note here
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that we do need to do a champagne pop i'm going to delay it just a little bit so we can get through
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the intros um okay so where were we i totally forgot uh okay i gotta do the intro here in just
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i don't know you've ever bought some merch some t-shirt and it's just dog shit it's fucking made
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out of cardboard it's uncomfortable your nipples are all chafed your nipples start bleeding after
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the tag on this maybe it's made in china but uh the most premium chinese sweatshop labor so um
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let's see what else uh hey can i have a suggestion for the swag i noticed the i love big labia maybe
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I don't find it to be a negative, but most men kind of do.
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I think there's a lot of women that would have interest in this swag, just saying.
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you're you are a legend sir thank you robert tanner thank you very much man fucking legend
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uh appreciate the uh the the big gifted 50 fuck guys do we need he did a champagne pop he gifted
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50 whatever memberships this guy's a fucking legend fucking legend thank you robert tanner
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uh we need a i wish we there was like vip on youtube chat on twitch you can vip somebody but
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Any women who want to be on the show, of course, you can follow us there.
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Because all labia can't matter until Big Labia Matter.
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As someone who only dates women with large labia, this is kind of important for me.
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uh you know that we're at war with iran we just fucking regime changed venezuela there's shit in
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the middle east there's fucking ukraine immigration inflation recession probably on the way uh what
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fucking the price of food is fucking dog shit there that hamburger was 30 the other day what
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the fuck um absolutely ridiculous but you know what that shit's a distraction 10 000 labiaplasties
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you're in the u.s absolute fucking tragedy can i add to that i'm one of those statistics
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you got a you had you had a labiaplasty i did did the rabbi fucking i should kick you off the show
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did the rabbi uh lick off the blood when it was over i'm catholic so okay good i used to work for
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a certain like couple plastic surgeons and they are a lot of times it's functional like women
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will have like irritation and stuff so it's not can i ask why like do you have any kids i have
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three and yeah kid it just like you said it's just for irritating it was literally like an
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irritation and then there was during sex too it was not like that you know like oh it looks ugly
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type well i mean that's a nice perk but it wasn't like it was covered by insurance for a medical
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i mean i don't understand this whole like it's uncomfortable it gets in the way men have balls
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and penises like we seem we don't fucking chop our shit off it and it's definitely in the way
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Can we talk about why it was even approved?
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Circumcision is fucking retarded, first off.
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Like, the balls are still there in the way.
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And, like, balls and penis hang, unless you've got world record labia,
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Some of the women that come in, they have the means to get it fixed.
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I've seen some where I'm like, I support this decision.
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Can I tell you how it was even, because my health insurance covered it, and can I tell
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Like, you would think that that's why health insurance would bother you.
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Like, you have issues walking, running, whatever.
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No, it was because I couldn't have sex with my husband, and that's why they covered it.
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This was like 10, no, this was like 15 years ago.
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But how do you go to the doctor and tell them, oh, like, I cannot have sex because of my
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No, the doctor said, if you want this covered by your health insurance, that's what we're
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to put it down don't believe it i swear you couldn't have sex that that wasn't the actual
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reason but that's what the doctor wanted the doctor was trying to help me get it covered
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through my house oh wait wait hold on okay so you committed insurance fraud and you're saying
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that on a live podcast it's probably similar to like a breast reduction where you go to a doctor
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you can complain enough to where they're going well it did bother it did bother me during sex
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but i'm not having sex 24 7 i'm walking i'm running i'm doing wait why didn't wait why didn't
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you lead with, okay, here was your framing. Well, I couldn't have sex with my husband. That was your
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lead in framing. And then only after do you disclose, oh, my doctor, look, this is something
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that happens with any sort of prescription. They used to do this with marijuana. You go to the
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doctor, at least when it was illegal, the doctor would be like, tell me you have migraines. Tell
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me that you have glaucoma or some bullshit. So they could write a fucking prescription. But it's
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like you should have led with well my i don't even understand why you would forward that
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because right now we're having an argument about the merits of this procedure and you just and
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you're like well i can have sex with my husband but i actually could my doctor well i could it
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just wasn't comfortable is what i'm saying like who wants to have sex when you're uncomfortable
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so it was physically uncomfortable yeah yep it was just slapping around it gets sucked in with
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I've never, ever been on any sort of assistance or anything.
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But I mean, like, if your husband works for the government or...
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At the time, I'm not married anymore, but when I was married,
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he worked for the jail in Washington State at the time we were living.
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Well, he got benefits that we paid into, just like any other job.
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Yeah, but he paid into it with his paycheck from the government.
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He gets his money from the government, and the government overpays their employees.
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He did, and he worked like 60 hours a week, and he paid for it.
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Like, I'm just trying to get through the introduction.
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So if you guys do buy merch, shop.whatever.com, it is going to pop up something like it'll
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You can input a name and you can also even include a little message with it.
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Hannah is the coolest panelist in the history of this show.
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Okay, if you guys can't catch the full shows, we have a Eclipse channel.
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link for that's in the description uh also one of the clips channels it's rebranded it's just
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at brian uh you can actually see it in the pinned uh in the youtube chat it's pinned just at brian
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um or you can pull that up i guess the blm thing so yeah i actually uh i got youtube.com slash at
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brian if you want to go sub to that there's going to be some developments on that channel
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right it used to be one of my clips channels but uh we're still posting clips but we're going to
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transition that to there's gonna be some crazy shit on that channel so just youtube.com slash
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app ryan if you want to go sub we have a discord discord.gg slash whatever we post our stream
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chatting in there and there's like some bts stuff that's pretty cool that you can check out so
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discord.gg slash whatever okay sorry that was a very long-winded introduction uh now we're gonna
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get right back to the show and then momentarily do the champagne pop but uh going around the table
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what's your current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and what's
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the longest relationship status or what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting
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with you go ahead um i'm single and i've never been in a relationship all right nothing nothing
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no relationship i mean you've been at ucsb now you you started in what september i started in
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september september october november december january february march it's not my priority
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nope no guys in the picture no didn't you have like a crush or something uh he's maybe like
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texting someone but okay nothing right now nothing all right uh is your roommate just like
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my roommates i'm in a triple triple yeah that sucks uh it's chill i love my roommates do you
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get kicked out all the time to let your roommates smash frat bros no no no no no we're we don't do
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anything you don't do that okay all right uh what about you i'm married and i think this is my
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longest. Go ahead. This is my longest relationship. I've been married for about 10 years. 10 years.
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Okay. And married for 10 together for how long? Close to 11 years. 11 years. Okay. Correct. All
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right. Have you been married before? Well, not married, but I was living with, you know,
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with other guys, but I wasn't married. You've had other relationships. Correct. Were you engaged
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to other men no any kids i have two kids two girls from this marriage uh yes okay
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all right what about you um i am supers please hold on hold on get the supers please
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uh okay what the fuck are some of these fucking retarded hold on uh rachel thank you for the
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membership uh shout out pasty for the super thank you man um okay uh i am married um and
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i guess i've only been in three relationships and all three of them were three years
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sorry how long you've been married three years you said uh well i've been married for two
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you've been married for two and a half two and a half okay uh all right then you have a kid
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My longest relationship was two years, and it was a previous one.
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Straight. Okay. What about you? I am married. I've been married for almost three years.
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Longest relationship. I was married once before for 12 years. We were together for 14.
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Okay. Got it. What about you? I'm engaged. This would be my longest relationship. We've been
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together for three years. As of next week, I actually met him on his birthday. So I always
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joke that i'm the best birthday present he'll ever get all right what about you um i'm in a
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relationship now been in a relationship for three years my longest relationship was like
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seven or eight years any kids yes i have a nine-year-old that's from the seven year
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yep uh were you married no ever married nope does he pay you child support yep what's the
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custody arrangement um like shared custody shared custody um uh shared custody okay
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and he pays you child it's 50 50 yeah how much does he pay you in child support i'm not willing
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to answer that is it a lot or a little um just not willing to answer it is he black
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My last serious relationship was about a year and a half ago, and I have two kids.
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I had two kids during that marriage, and my last serious relationship was about a year and a half ago.
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So two kids from the one marriage, is that correct?
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I'm not going to talk about that kind of stuff for him on here.
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Four and a half, five years ago. I moved to Utah.
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I, like, separated about almost five years ago, and the divorce took about a year and a half.
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So, okay, you've been, sorry, guys, there's a fucking bus or something passing by.
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Okay, five years ago, you were married for eight years.
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you're currently in an unresolved both a custody dispute and then they're still making
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determinations no it's not it's not a custody dispute he just I have them like throughout
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the school year and then they go out to Nashville for a few weeks in the summer
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and they're right there right now because it's spring break so you have primary custody or full
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custody yes primary okay so is he paying you alimony currently no but uh he's supposed to by
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law he's not though that's what okay so you're currently in a legal uh um i haven't taken him
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back to court i could but i haven't well so when you say he was supposed to be paying you alimony
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uh are you saying just he should be like it's like was it was it court ordered yes yes so there
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was already uh through the process of the divorce there's already uh legal court action instructing
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him to pay out money and has he expressed a reason why he's not paying is it willful or
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can he not afford it i i'm assuming he can't afford it i honestly it's one of those things
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Like, I just don't really like to ask a whole lot of questions because it really stressed me out for a long time.
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And I kind of don't want to give any more of my energy towards that, if that makes sense.
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It goes through, like, this weird card in Utah.
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but I mean one time my I literally got a check I think it was for $37.09 so okay all right um yeah
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okay uh okay what about you newly single how newly six months six or seven months uh it was
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two and a half years is that your longest relationship it's my only relationship
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I broke up with him, but then I wanted him back like five seconds later.
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I don't want to be with you don't fucking call me
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because I think here's what you're trying to do
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movie about he was you were upset whether warranted or not and you were trying to either
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express your dissatisfaction or correct something that you perceive or in actuality he was doing
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wrong yeah and i just like want it to be in control okay and then so this was essentially
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a manipulation tactic to attempt to get him to change or do something that's really it okay
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And then, but when it didn't work, did you try to reconcile, try to get back together or?
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I think this is a dangerous tactic, although it's sometimes, especially for perhaps men
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who are lacking in experience when it comes to dating women.
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And by the way, just to be clear, men can do this too.
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Men can bluff the breakup and then the woman's like, okay.
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So then you either have to like tuck your tail and take the L and be like, oh, I didn't
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or the divorce is you should mean it is i guess what i'm trying to say if if you're gonna suggest
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a breakup like you have to actually mean it it can't be a bluff it's also very manipulative
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women will do this we're like oh i don't know i'm so upset we should uh i think we should break up
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and then you're like okay and then they're just like i don't know i i don't believe in the like
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on again off again thing if if you want to broach a breakup it's over like don't ever come to me
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threatening a breakup unless you fucking mean it because then it's just like okay well i think if
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you truly love somebody you couldn't do that to them well someone relationship i think it's very
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toxic it is toxic we don't do that to each other yeah you should look if you have an issue if you
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have an issue you can deal with it like address the issue but using using it as a manipulation
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tool or leverage to try to get what you want uh i don't think it's effective i think especially
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in a marriage like you don't you don't ever say the word divorce like i'm just get the fucking
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divorce like okay we have an issue we're gonna work it out uh but don't use i don't think you
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should use uh divorce threat as i feel like it's like gambling you should be like willing to lose
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if you do do it yeah true i think if i'm dating someone and they threaten the relationship i'm
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gonna walk away because i can't live with that type of anxiety or stress well not only that i
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don't think you truly are in love with me if you could do that true the thing is that when it comes
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to a marriage like threatening divorce is a whole other level but if you're in a relationship that's
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not how women break up like they don't just say i'm gonna break up with you right now they break
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up quietly and slowly and they plan to break up when they threaten it it's kind of one of those
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things where it's just don't take her seriously she's just speaking out of her emotions yeah
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and if you do it more than once that's what it ends up becoming anyway what you're just saying
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the marriage is totally different i mean exactly i've been married for a long time and believe me
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we have had fights where i'm almost done with him or he's done with me but you know to say divorce
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i think that's another level you know we can get to the point and we don't talk to each other for
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days or weeks you know and you know since that we own businesses together um you know we kind of
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talk only about business like okay talk to me about the business but don't talk to me about
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personal stuff but it's totally different yes when you're married i mean and i feel like you
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know when you're in a relationship because i used to be in relationships before uh yes i will try
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to never oh my guys i will try i'm gonna leave you i'm gonna leave your ass i'm gonna i'm gonna
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Like she said, I used to do that, you know.
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But since I got married, I think, yeah, I think it's not like I'm not toxic.
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The longest relationship I've been in, it was six and a half years with the father of my kids.
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I'll go on dates and stuff, but I went on a sabbatical for like three years and recently
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got off of it where I just wasn't dating at all or talking to men or anything at all.
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Wait, just clarification, you've been married once or twice?
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My two older ones have the same father, and then I have a younger one that has a different
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So I have a 19-year-old, a 15-year-old, and a four-year-old, almost four-year-old.
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four-year-old okay and you said there's a three-year period of celibacy
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it was celibacy is that correct yes like I didn't even hug or shake hands or kiss nothing I was not
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out looking for three years for three years and when was that 2021 to 2024 I believe wait 20
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and you have a four-year-old so the period of celibacy started while you were pregnant is that
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yeah okay I kind of just like freaked out and and did like something that was never meant to be
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but he's a good dad and we have like a good co-parenting relation I love his wife wait
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what do you mean you what was the thing you did that you never meant to do what do you mean
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didn't you just didn't those words just come out of your mouth I just it's not like we planned the
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baby like I kind of just freaked out and left like I was more of the man in the situation than
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he was like he was like oh let's try to work this out let's try to be together and i was like holy
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shit like i'm starting if you put yourself like i had a 15 year old at the time and then you know
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like a 12 year old and i'm like what the fuck did i just do to my life i'm obviously in a different
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place now with that and we're obsessed why didn't you just abort or do you not believe in that i i
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don't believe in abortion okay hey just because her baby's half black she should not have an
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abortion okay okay for the record he's not half black wow wait so um but we get along like i said
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i love his wife she's amazing um his and his dad is a really good dad and so we co-parent amicably
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okay um so how long were you dating the guy not very long i'm not going to delve into that
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well so um was it like a one-night stand or something that you got pregnant off of or
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So we talked for a few weeks, and then, yes, we hooked up, and I had him.
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And he was, like, all in wanting to have this relationship with me,
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and I was like, holy fucking shit, you know?
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And no, I do not collect child support from either father.
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And I believe both fathers are very present in my children's life,
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and I believe child support is for absent fathers, not present fathers.
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um so i don't collect any sort of child support i take care of my kids on my own okay but i mean
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there's certainly some financial uh components of raising a child do they contribute in some ways
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yeah like my ex bought ours or buys the car like my uh older two their their dad makes
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good money so he buys them cars and takes them on trips and you know like yes they both contribute
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that way okay but they're not paying they don't give you money directly in fact i signed my older
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my husband my ex-husband I signed off on him having to give it to me he used to give it to
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me I used to have a situation similar to Hannah's where we lived in two different states and that's
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when I took it because I was living in a different state but once I moved like when they got a little
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older I just was like they need to be near their father you know a boy needs their father boys need
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their father so I moved near them and then once that happened I signed off on child support okay
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yeah um so okay you were married the the two other children are from ex-husband your ex-husband yeah
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and he doesn't pay you alimony nope nope okay if i ever needed anything what he would be there but
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i just don't like i yeah i just feel like he's a good father he's there not can you put the cup
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on the table please um okay so uh hold on you're you're uh did you like this guy the most recent
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guy who you have a kid with like was this you hooked up one time and got pregnant yes one and
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done i was on a business trip missed my period we were about ready to go to a um the condom broke
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we were about ready to go to a winery that day and i was like why is my period late and so i was
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like before we go to this winery i should probably and i half ass took it like this is i'm not and i
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was immediately like he and i still connect like we were still talking and stuff like that
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i moved to arkansas from california and at the time arkansas was is medically illegal and getting
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weed was so he was kind of like my weed plug so yeah and that's history now okay um all right i
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see hold on we have a tts it's kind of insulting towards me but i gotta be fair so uh all right
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sam demand with the the hater tts i suppose you could say as hannah has her fans in the
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chat i i guess uh thank you for all the twitch subs by the way appreciate it guys it's coming
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in in just a minute sam demand three hundred and two donated two hundred unicorn hannah you're
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mogging everyone brian loki looking like a fat unicorn go work out bozo and the rest of the
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girls are chopped eight oh shit was there i'd give her a kiss wow okay um i want to see what
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he looks like by the way it um so the stream labs it will change bad words into other words so
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unicorn was actually a retard so he was calling me a just for clarification he wasn't calling me
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a unicorn which is kind of a compliment but he did in fact call me a fat retard uh i'm working
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i'm working on it you know i'm working on it you know i'm trying to raw dog the diet too i'm not
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trying i'm not taking those epics i'm trying to do it fucking raw dog um okay uh relationship
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status over here in a relationship the longest one that i've had is average two to three years
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and yeah met the guy that i'm with at church all right uh and uh you how long have you been seeing
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the current guy roughly around two years oh two years okay are you guys engaged or anything like
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that um yes you're engaged okay have you ever been engaged before or married no okay you met him
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you're orthodox christian yes okay uh did you used to do only fans as a side hustle correct
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yes a while ago you don't do it anymore though is that correct anybody else does anyone here do
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oh you do of is anybody else do of or have done of i've done it as a side you did it yeah yeah
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you used to do it not really i was like scamming you were just like screen recording things and
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screenshotting it and then selling it to people so wait what do you mean like other people's stuff
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taking taking notes it's on Pornhub I don't know what you expected me to do
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yeah she's a hustler so you were pretending to be somebody else and using catfishing basically
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using somebody else's content yeah were you using a white girl or no I was using black girls because
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I was using like my actual face for as the sign up but like when it came to like people requesting
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things i'm like okay i'll just go look for something like so you would go find like a
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masturbation yeah that looked as close to me as possible which is like really really hard because
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like everyone has like a very unique build and like not a lot of people that look so wait wait
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what would you type into uh p-hub to like ebony what are the other adjectives to because you said
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your build yeah so like what would you type in to find the build match like at the time i was like
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really small so i'm like ebony like um petite petite and then like uh the what do you call
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the newcomers that are like on porn a lot like you know what i'm talking about i'm not in the
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business like amateur yeah all right uh somebody bought looks like they bought a merch what the
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heck let me see if it comes up east coast canadian thank you you bought some merch shop.whatever.com
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appreciate it brother thank you for the uh merch purchase thank you man uh i don't know if there's
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anyone else i think we're good on that okay uh relationship status sir yes so i am currently
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dating a girl we've been dating for 11 months and that's my longest relationship all right
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rock and roll uh that's everyone's relationship status so uh we're gonna jump into a couple
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topics here i think the first one and uh kind of took us a while to get through everything but uh
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I think the first thing I wanted to do was ask, let's see, hmm, this is a question for Riley, and then we're going to have to recalibrate it for some of the women, but, and, well, here, let's do this, show of hands, who here is conservative?
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Well, how about then just that'll give context for the following.
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The question is, starting with Riley, would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant?
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I think Alex Stein would agree with me on this one.
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I would find myself a nine because if you're a nine, you're fine.
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If you're an eight, we could have an immigration debate, but like probably go for an illegal immigrant, to be honest with you.
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I think, yeah, I would rather date an illegal immigrant.
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used to yeah but then I marry my husband so you have a green card or are you naturalized
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no I'm just got I just got out my green card do you have to uh a green card so you're that's
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permanent right yeah that's permanent residency okay but you don't have to beyond getting a green
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card you can uh you can become a full-fledged citizen right yes so you're not full-fledged
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citizen no so you can you vote i can you cannot vote okay but if are you on the pathway to trying
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to become a citizen oh yes of course okay i have a question for you on this yeah um
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throw it at me uh by the way is anybody here this is i guess i could ask it to anyone here
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is anyone here uh like either an immigrant or a child like second generation third generation
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immigrant like half like my my dad's from here my mom's not okay what for you my grandmother on
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my mom's side was from italy from italy okay what about you um my mom's from japan mom's from japan
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uh is she a citizen now has she become a citizen of the u.s or she has a green card she has a green
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card and your father is american yes okay well i guess then this question is really only for you
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let me see if i can find it hold on i'm also an immigrant what's that i'm also an immigrant
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But in turn, do you have cultural affinity for the U.K. or South Africa?
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But I moved here when I was seven, so I'd say I'm definitely American.
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But I still am technically an immigrant, I guess.
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And then your parents' nationality, what is it?
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My dad's a U.K. citizen, and my mom's also a U.K. citizen, although she was previously an Indian citizen.
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I guess maybe it will apply to you, but for you primarily.
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So in a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the United States and Mexico, where say neither side is right or wrong, to which country is your allegiance?
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Well, I have to say probably to the United States at this point in my life, because, you know, my kids are from here.
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My husband, he's a U.S. citizen, and, you know, but, you know, you never leave your roots, you know.
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I mean, if it were to be in a war, I don't know, probably lean more towards Mexico, but, you know, I mean, it's a difficult question, you know.
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I create jobs for Americans, and, you know, I do a lot of things.
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i'm i feel like i'm at and that's important you create jobs in mexico no no okay that's what i'm
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saying i forgot about that yeah yeah that's what i'm saying i grew up just here in the states for
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americans so and just to be clear this question is more so like a um you can still have an affinity
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a cultural affinity for your country i'm assuming you have relatives and family
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that live in Mexico, this isn't a rejection of your familial ties,
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but in terms of, it's more like a legal allegiance to the United States,
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your political allegiance in the event of some sort of war,
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you would side with the United States over Mexico.
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Probably. Probably, yes. I would say with the United States.
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One thing to be aware of, so actually, I don't think this is a requirement under your green card status, I think.
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But if you were wanting to become a naturalized U.S. citizen, you have to take the oath of allegiance.
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In the oath of allegiance, it does require you to forsake and abandon.
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That's not the exact wording, but you essentially have to forsake any allegiance to any other country, state, sovereignty, principality, kingdom, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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uh, and you, your loyalty must fully be with the United States. Correct. But I don't know
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what, if there's a, uh, to get your green card, I don't know if there's a oath of allegiance for
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that. No, not really. I mean, there's basically just, uh, you know, they investigate you to the
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core, you know, they want to know that their relationship is for real, that you're not just
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getting your papers, you know, but I think when you get your citizenship, yes, you have to,
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question. The United States goes to war with the
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That seems to never be the case. Well, it's hypothetical,
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would not, like, really be on a particular side.
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the hypothetical you had to pick a side which side would you pick i mean i would choose the
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united states because i live here because you what if you were at the time of the war breaking out
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you were living in the uk at the at that moment and if if i was living in the uk and that was like
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my foreseen future with the option of course that you know your oath of allegiance would
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if it was to the united states obviously you wouldn't have to publicly say this and you could
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always go back to the united states prior to outbreak of major conflict or something i would
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just choose wherever i plan on living long term i mean like at that point do you ever see yourself
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in your life living long term in the uk no i'd live here okay no uh so i guess back to this
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though the question is uh would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant to which you say
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illegal immigrant yeah uh so going around the table would you rather i guess you can maybe swap
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it wait hold on you have to change the question for the people who are not conservative this is
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a question more so for the more conservative people uh hmm how do we how do we swap it to
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be a question for libs would you rather data well yeah would you rather date a conservative
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Well, to your Mexican point, correct me if I'm wrong,
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The Mexican men are common to hit or cheat on their women
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And that's typical of a lot of men from other countries
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Are you assuming that the legal is from Mexico?
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So I'm like, I don't want anything to do with them.
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I like Western men, including Americanized Hispanics.
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But it has to be Americanized, Westernized people.
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Why are we assuming that the illegal is from Mexico?
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Well, in my experience, I've only ever seen Mexican illegals.
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Now there's more Somalians and Haitians and all of these different people.
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The largest bulk of illegal immigration comes from south of the border, particularly Mexico.
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It's like 50% at minimum has always been from Mexico.
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A lot of people fly in and overstay their visa, which is the easiest way to do it.
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It's just they have to have American dollars to afford that ticket.
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Otherwise, you have to basically take that whole commute on the train and everything.
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Yeah, I mean, but to say that, you know, the Hispanic men are saying Mexican men are, you know, they have to, you know, that basically they have to hitch or whatever.
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Not all of them, of course, but it is common and I just don't want to deal with it.
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I feel like every illegal immigrant I've met has been someone that's like overstayed a visa or something like that.
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Something worse than an extreme leftist woman is a beta leftist male.
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And sometimes I feel like leftist men are like, will you pay half my bill?
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and well can I leech off you and it's just like I find like Mexican men especially are they want
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to provide they want that like natural role and anytime I haven't been in any sort of abusive
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situation it's been with white people so I find them to have the same values kind of that I grew
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up with yeah I mean I think that Hispanic cultures have more of this men are more you know they're
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more culturally speaking they're more characterized for being more conservative you know and but yeah
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they also expect you to be in the conservative side you know that's from my experience i basically
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all of my all of my relationships have been you know my same race i should i say that i have dated
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a couple of you know white white guys and yeah i mean culturally speaking it's totally different
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you know uh i think hispanic men are very very conservative but they they expect the same from
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you and i don't i consider myself conservative in certain ways but i think yeah thinking about it i
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think i'm a little bit more moderate same yeah you know i believe in a lot of stuff but you know i
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don't like a man telling me what to do basically well on those two points when it comes to leftist
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men they typically treat women like public property and conservative men treat them like
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private property where they're mine but on your point i only ever dated one hispanic man mexican
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he was the only one that was ever aggressive so after that and not only that i was forewarned by
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a friend of mine's father-in-law where he was like oh i heard that mexican men beat their women
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and I'm like oh how could you say something like that no of course not and then yeah I mean I had
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to eat my words basically well well well at least you realized it that's good you get jealous I will
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say that like a little bit territorial yeah I mean no I mean I want to say they're hard working
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and they contribute I mean most of the people like very hard working yeah I mean most of the
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people that I know again are you know immigrants or illegal immigrants and yes everybody's very
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hard-working. I mean, I don't take, I mean, I work, I hire, you know, immigrants, and everybody's very
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hard-working, and everybody has their wives, you know, they provide. My chef, let's just put it that
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way, his wife doesn't work for anything. He works seven days a week, all day, and, you know, she's a
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happy wife. Well, I think the subject right now is just pretty much pure immigration, although I
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don't deny that, obviously, Hispanics work very hard. I've seen that my entire life. I mean, I grew
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up at Jehovah's Witness, so it's like all there were were undocumented immigrants. At the same
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time, the issue right now in the country is that it's so overstrained on our public resources that
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although there are people who are hardworking, it's just like we don't necessarily need that
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extra occupancy until we get everything figured out as to how we modify things. The thing is that,
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yeah, to get to that point, I mean, I'm very involved on this immigration stuff.
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during the fourth years of biden a lot of people that shouldn't be here came in here you know i'm
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an immigrant but i mean that was a mess again i'm telling you because i i work directly with
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venezuelans cubans puerto ricans you name it are they legal uh so the ones that i have right now
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they have a work permit all of them do yeah all of them okay good so but i'm telling you uh there
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was a time you know that i will hire let's just say a venezuelan and turns out that this guy was
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government for whatever reason. He killed somebody.
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like these governments were letting people out just to come here and basically do a mess you
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know well that's the thing they were cleaning out their own countries and the economy of their
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countries basically depend on the remittances from this country but my issue is that from that
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decision that Biden took it's reflective of the fact that immigration is a tool that they use
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politically where it's like exactly if they use a bulk subset of people who are not assimilating
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if they use a bulk subset of people who don't share the same temperaments habits values of the
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propagandize them against the natives' interests.
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I've seen a lot of Venezuelans, a lot of Cubans
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like they just stepped foot, let's just say when Biden
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was here, they just stepped foot here in the States
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stamps they get a phone they get a hotel and you know i've been here i don't know for more than 15
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years and i never got anything just because i'm mexican you know but this whole propaganda
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propaganda that biden had you know you have to come to you you can come to the state and you
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will get all your stuff free that was for real well that's the thing that i also i agree with
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your statement like yeah that's the thing that i have as an issue though is that people tend to and
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it's something that's reflective of this podcast a lot they put the burden on the individual because
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Obviously, we live in a post-WASP society.
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But in reality, these systems, these welfare systems of, you know, the phone, the whatever,
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it's all kind of like corporatism marrying socialism and benefiting the elites that basically
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are seeing profit by ushering in and controlling these people's lives.
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Where it's like, the issue isn't necessarily with the individuals.
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If you were to start chastising every individual, that's going to take forever.
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But if you start chastising the mechanisms that be, that might solve things a little
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faster yeah and again i believe also that you know there's a the actual people that come from
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venezuela or cuba or nicaragua let's put it that way uh they're usually not liberals because they
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come from the government they come from socialism they come from dictatorships like all my you know
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the people that i know that are venezuela and cuban you know they hate they hate with heart
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like liberals or democrats because of the reason because they know what it is you know people here
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in the state don't know what actually socialism do to people like they think that everything is
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just like you know like a little cartoon that everything is for free here's your free stuff
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you're gonna get it for free nothing is gonna happen the money's not gonna come from anywhere
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but you know that's a that's very but that's the thing is that and it's an issue that i have once
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again i love hispanics i am hispanic i love them i just everything but the issue is much like women
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with marriage hispanics with green cards is contingent on whether they're going to vote
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republican or democrat and my issue is if our values are so conservative why is it that when
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you come here you vote liberal and democrat when you know that's going to support things like
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pro-abortion and like gay marriage and all of this jazz and it's like you're backing down on
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your own religious moral christian you know societal values just to get material benefits
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for yourself and that is reflective of a poor character that you don't necessarily want in any
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nation that's that is right you know what we need to do no more legal immigrants we gotta
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fucking deport them all that's what we got to do i don't necessarily agree because i mean why
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because immigrants we do a lot of things uh well hold on i know i didn't specify illegal immigrants
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although we should probably reduce the legal immigrants we allow in also substantially i mean
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i agree in certain certain things of that but again i think the way the government is doing
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it right now i i don't necessarily agree the way they're deporting okay i don't know how what are
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they doing specifically that you disagree with i mean i just feel i mean i know this has happened
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all the time with all the presidents i know that i'm not i'm not that stupid i just feel like you
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know they're they're being too harsh to people and that's why it's getting a bad rep i entirely
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agree with you entirely agree with me the issue is that they're trying to make this like huge
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propaganda of how brutal they're making it but the numbers don't reflect the brutality so it's
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almost like they're setting it up to fail in the first part where it's like okay we want these
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people out for sure but you're marketing it in such a terrible way that you're losing the public's
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like interest in it which is like wholly on it i hate but ask yourself why look what happened
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when kamala got up and said don't come here they came by the millions so they are showing a no
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nonsense approach look this is going to happen to you you won't be able to get back into the
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country for 10 years true but why don't they then target the people who are hiring the illegal
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immigrants why don't they target the welfare programs that are basically they should they
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should but they're not doing it they're making it as ugly and as harmful as possible for the public
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like image of it which is only going to hurt the cause meanwhile they're not like materially doing
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anything to actually get those numbers i don't even understand i mean look there were deportations
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there were deportations under Obama, there were deportations under Biden. Much of the media
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attention on the deportations, by the way, and they were apprehending, you know, the way they
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were apprehending these people has not changed substantially ever since Trump became president.
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It's just there's political motive now, because this is going to be like a point to sort of
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push people to the polls to vote Democrat in the upcoming election. And so there was none of this
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attention on ICE, really, at least to this degree, when Obama was president, when Biden was president.
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It's a sign-up. Totally. In 2016, CNN did a piece, look it up, and they were calling the illegal
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immigrants targets, and they were praising Obama, and they were acting like he was doing this great
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thing and protecting United States citizens. So it's just kind of crazy over the last decade,
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it's flopped, and now all of a sudden, all this negative media attention. That's what I'm not
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trying to say because again um again i'm not against eyes i'm not against deportation because
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yes a lot of a lot of people came here that shouldn't be here like let's just get that
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straight and i'm an immigrant again i i love immigrant people of course i i i work wait hold
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on everyone who crossed the border illegally or who is here illegally doesn't belong here
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not just the violent criminals all of them they all have to go well i don't agree with that i
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came that way well they brought me that way i didn't i didn't i didn't have a choice though
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they brought me well okay so yes obviously if you're a minor and you're under the custody of
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your parents and they commit the crime uh and you're secondary to that but yes you also if
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you're here illegally yeah you're going to be deported too or should be well again but i try
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my ways to to get situated you know my husband is a you sit and sit and that's the first thing we
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did. Well, now you're legally here. Yeah, now I'm legally here. Originally, though, you were here
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illegally. Yes, I stay a lot. Have your parents been deported? No, no, they actually have a tourist
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visa. Well, that's the thing that I'm once again saying. It's like everyone's falling for the
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propaganda psyop. It's like you're once again looking at like these individuals that are coming
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over, but it's like who's ushering them in? Who's giving them the welfare? Who's giving them the
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Medicaid? Who's giving them the promise? And when it comes to Obama, they counted turnaways at the
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border as deportations. They were flubbing the numbers, but in reality, the immigrants were
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still coming in at like extraordinary amounts. Let's just talk that immigrants are still coming.
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Yeah, they've always capitalized on like illegal scab labor. This is a problem since the 70s and
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it's only been multiplying. So once again, it's like blaming the individuals is not going to do
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anything because ultimately they're being incentivized to come over. You have to kill
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the incentive to stop them from coming. The government did incentivize them. Hold on,
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that's crazy. That's crazy policy advisement. So okay, first off, hold on, I'll explain it.
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So first off, if it is the case, and I think it is the case, that we aren't holding these companies responsible who are profiteering off of these illegal immigrants because you can pay them less or whatever, I'm 100% on board with you.
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But saying that the blame should only be placed on the systems in place that enable this, sure, we can address that, too.
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But also there needs to be a mechanism to actually remove the individuals from this country, ergo deportation.
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There was a repatriation act that happened in the 1920s during the Great Depression where once they cut out welfare, once they cut out Medicaid, like 3 million Mexicans went back to Mexico immediately.
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Once you remove the mechanisms to keep them here, the incentives to come here, they go away because they can't assimilate without those mechanisms.
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Then you only retain those that can properly assimilate.
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But so, okay, you're saying because they receive certain government benefits, that that is the reason why they're here?
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The same reason why there are so many homeless people here because they get all the benefits.
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I would argue even if all of those things were to disappear, most of the people that come here do so for economic reasons.
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Even if there weren't government handouts and they weren't receiving benefits, there's a couple other factors here.
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the united states is safer and it has a stronger economy and so should we just tank our own economy
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and make america unsafe so it's untenable for legal immigrants to come here you just said it
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employment who's employing them if they're not being if they're only hiring americans who are
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verified americans we wouldn't have this problem they wouldn't come over here there would be
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blockades why are they why are these companies over non-government organizations like his are
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Isn't it already illegal to employ an illegal immigrant?
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I mean, this is going to, it's not going to stop.
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I mean, when I got here to the States, I got employed at, what, 16 or 17, I got employed
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They didn't ask me for anything, but just show up tomorrow at 7 a.m.
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And basically, I didn't know any English because I was, you know, I came from Mexico.
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So with your employees, I know that they're, you know, legally able to be here and whatnot because of their work visas.
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The entire process of illegal immigration, it's like a huge trafficking ring in and of itself.
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That the same corporations that are hiring these illegals are using their bodies, their organs, their sex, everything to basically fund their own non-government organizations.
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the government and the worst thing is that we get paid very minimum when i started working i was
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getting paid i think fifty dollars a day working from 7 a.m to 5 p.m fifty dollars a day yeah and
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the employer should be prosecuted chono you wanted to jump in oh yeah i was just gonna say i don't
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know if illegal immigration completely demerits welfare programs because those also benefit
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non-illegal immigrants if i'm not mistaken in the u.s sure but it needs calibration right now it's
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being completely abused we can't you're saying to like cut down those welfare programs for the
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people that are illegal and not paying them down or cut them completely if they're not paying into
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it why would they get it completely or cut no you have to cut down who's on it so basically there's
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a bunch of americans in the rust belt who are addicted to meth who are struggling because
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there's no jobs in the rust belt and they're not getting the welfare that they're supposed to get
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for all of the taxes and for all of the heritage that they have in this country and instead it's
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going to people who just arrived i do agree that those people should have priority with welfare
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programs it's not priority it should go to them that's what it was designated for we pay into it
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we work hard they're being disenfranchised that's why the american populace is being destroyed women
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in that area are now just absolutely unstable and this could certainly like boost up the birth
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population if they were actually aided i just thought you were kind of criticizing those
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programs no i'm for welfare i love welfare well actually with welfare i have a hot take on this
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i think that when somebody signs up for any type of government assistance while they're signing up
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they should relinquish their right to vote correct that's true yeah it's like you can't
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be dependent on the government and then vote to influence the government i also think i also
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think you should be able you should take a drug test correct i completely disagree with that
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because those individuals who are on the on those welfare programs are still completely subject to
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you also work to help the people administration and the presidency so they're affected by it
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should they not be able to contribute to like voting and no because they would just vote for
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more free shit correct but that's if you give a man a fish he'll eat for a day if you promise a
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man another man's fish he'll vote for you not only that it's like we are subject to that person's
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everyone votes for what responsibility we become their slave not all of us billionaires will vote
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for what how does banning abortion benefit me that doesn't benefit me how does how does banning
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slavery how does banning slavery and protecting these young black ladies right here how does that
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benefit me it doesn't i agree and like we should vote for what some of us vote for other people
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Are you saying only black people have been enslaved?
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Or I think all of us have been enslaved at some point.
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I'm just saying, under the worldview you mentioned,
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like, billionaires who vote for what benefits themselves,
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Yeah, because the few hundred or a low amount of thousand billionaires
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that live in America, that's swaying elections with their votes.
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And also, you could point out an exception of someone
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who's, like, a man who would still vote for, like,
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things, like, to do with abortion that doesn't affect him.
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I don't think billionaires should be able to be, like, international.
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I think that if you're in this country doing business, you should be reflective of the heritage of this country.
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You shouldn't have a multinational corporation that's influencing multiple countries for their own commerce.
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I don't know what that has to do with what I just said.
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Here, Nathan, let me just have you pour back there for me, okay?
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Appreciate the TTSWs in the chat for Metro Matt
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My almost four-year-old is actually in a Venezuelan-run preschool, and he's completely bilingual.
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And those women, they take such good care, but they are here.
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To her point, they're actually very conservative, and they're here legally.
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But Arkansas is very strict on immigration, so they wouldn't be running a business.
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Why does illegal immigration dominate the national debate while corporate reliance on foreign labor from countries like China gets a free pass?
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All the jobs that should have been to the Rust Belt, I'm glad I finished that, went to China.
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They passed a bunch of regulation in the 1970s and 1980s, made it economically impossible to manufacture in Chicago and Detroit and everywhere in the Rust Belt and got exported to China.
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the libs basically ruined uh america with their green energy bullshit reagan but that's the thing
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that i have as an argument why are we putting the onus on all of the immigrants instead of
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recognizing the people who own and run this country betrayed their own people that like
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between if i have a bullet and there was a traitor and an enemy you give it to the traitor not the
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enemy am i am i wrong no i'm not wrong you would give it to like an illegal immigrant over like
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Someone who betrays me, I would give it to them, not an enemy.
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And I don't see illegal immigrants as my enemy.
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I see them as someone who's being incentivized to basically be propagandized against my best interests.
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The multinational corporations own our politicians.
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Illegal immigration is funded by the government, which is owned by multinational corporations
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that benefit from the scab labor absolutely so i'm sorry when uh have tiffany handed out when
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you say multinational corporations like what do you mean by that like big tech companies or like
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yeah tech companies i suppose but i was thinking more like anything that's under like the world
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economic forum or i guess meta ngos ngos but they're government they're not corporations um
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so you're like anti-big corporation yes i'm anti-banks it's actually a little bit like
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liberal no it's not it's very anti-semitic of you it's very anti-semitic oh my goodness
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no it's not liberal at all liberals are pro-capitalism liberalism it was a product
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of capitalism it's a masonic concept that came from individualism selling out your heritage
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selling out whatever that's why you don't have a problem with illegal immigration you have no
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heritage i never i when did when did i say i had no problem with you want them to have welfare
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that's a huge issue i didn't say that i just i was just oh my goodness okay anyway so when it
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comes to illegal immigration that's a reflection that you're betraying your own cultural and
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religious and heritage values which is a product of liberalism but capitalism is intertwined with
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liberalism that's why leftists say they hate liberals even though most leftists are liberals
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themselves okay i mean instead of the world the word liberal like you could say there's like
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leftists who have beliefs that are slightly aligned with are stupid to put it slightly
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aligned with socialist like ideas social no that's marxism they're like democratic socialism
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like that sort of that's a mark well it depends on what is democratic socialism like kind of like
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mum donnie's campaign for example but like can you tell me what it is what is democratic socialism
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i hear this word all the time focusing on like resources for the public things of that sort
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but they pretend to do that while they wired into their pockets but who's the democracy that's
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reflecting who's getting the benefits don't unstore it are the natives not the public because
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the public could include illegal immigrants it can include everyone's getting the benefits like
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in new york if there's like free public transportation everyone has access if i am
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for public transportation if a lot of people are getting something free i'm just i'm speaking of
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the idea if i am for public transportation health care housing all of that jazz which i am i want
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it to be for the people who are of that blood and belong to that nation i don't want it to be for
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someone that has absolutely no heritage no interest no roots there at that point you're
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basically incentivizing traders to come over and vote against your best interests to change the
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culture well my belief regarding illegal immigration is that like it should there's there should be as
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much done as possible to prevent it in the first place and if it comes down to deportation
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i understand that although i don't agree with a lot of ice's methodology i think deportation is
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like the weakest way to do it it's it's a physical action you should do it in a pragmatic way first
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that's why i say i think it's a psyop i think that the whole violent deportation thing is to
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subvert deportation's popularity i think that if you were to remove the mechanisms behind it people
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would naturally and peacefully leave and there would be no cultural division no culture wars
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Really quick, we've got to do a little shout-out for Robert Tanner.
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Thank you for the champagne pop at the beginning of the stream there.
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I don't think that was Robert Tanner who said that.
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The UN and the globalist elite are the biggest threat to Western culture.
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They have literally funded the population movement over the last 20 years
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and also been behind the feminist revolution that has destroyed the single-income family.
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from row we think for the thank you mate that was probably terrible but thank you man appreciate it
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thank you for the soup chat there thank you for the soup chats appreciate it guys uh quick reminder
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guys ten dollar display hundred dollar read two hundred dollar tts tts does get priority um
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okay where were we at well i was about to say we are giving these illegal immigrants five thousand
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dollars some of them to leave yes what country does that so to sit here and act like we're these
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still giving them money. I actually have a great solution
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Well, let me tell you something about those $5,000.
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I know a lot of people that were not receiving it.
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immigration. This wouldn't help the ones here.
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But to stop, it would be to place a border guard
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And so what it would be, though, is it would be peace through strength.
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So basically nobody in their right mind would cross over if they know that they're going to get shot right away.
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So if a mother's bringing her child across the border, child gets shot.
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And if somebody does do it, some 21-year-old guy is like, hey, man, let's go to America, man.
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So a child getting shot is a better scenario than a child existing illegally in the U.S.
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It would be better than thousands of children being trafficked through the Southern border every year.
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It's like you're using the most unpopular optics, and you're using the most empathetic appeal,
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and it's a culture divide which could be resolved easier by just addressing the corporate multinational companies that are incentivizing.
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You basically stop doing this whole exchange that is absolutely stupid,
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and instead you focus on why exactly are these illegal immigrants from all over the world being incentivized,
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and how exactly are they coming over here when they don't have an education?
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How do they know the navigation process is here?
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But, I mean, I got to the Western civilization.
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I mean, my culture is totally different from here.
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I did everything necessarily to fit into the Western culture.
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I wouldn't say you're not part of Western culture because you're Christian, though.
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It's a different language, and, yeah, there's a difference in culture for sure.
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You know, I mean, Mexicans, we like a lot of different things from Americans for sure.
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But, you know, the problem, I don't think, you know, Hispanics, I think Hispanics, we get, you know, we get very used to this culture, the Western culture.
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We don't get used to you guys, though, so that's the problem.
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You guys are talking about big booty Latinas this entire time.
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It's like, wait a minute, what do you mean you're not used to it?
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You had Christy Nome celebrating her birthday at a Mexican restaurant.
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That's being tolerant of Mexican culture, though.
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Just because you're getting to Florida doesn't mean you're not intolerant.
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We're intolerant to the illegal way of them coming over here.
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There's not a restaurant that doesn't have Mexicans in it.
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Americans in general have like even positive opinions when it comes to Hispanics they just
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don't like the laws being broken and the numbers of people coming over but there's really no
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vitriol there not always there's vitriol is in itself contrived to distract oneself once again
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from the multinational corporations and non-government organizations funneling them over
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wait so do you think there exists like zero prejudice or judgment between but um regarding
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like Mexicans and Hispanics in the U.S. in my experience Mexicans are more hostile to Mexicans
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themselves like Hispanics are way more racist to other Hispanics honestly when it comes to white
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people the most that they've ever done is just be like are where you come from mexico and it's
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like i'm not mexican so that's about like as much prejudice as i've ever faced okay i mean there's
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probably someone who's faced more prejudice out there but and i'm like congratulations on the
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anecdotal fantasy that you have right now but at the end of the day it's like i don't think if they
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were facing prejudice it would kind of deter them from coming over and yet they're still coming over
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in droves i don't think though because they're still the economic benefits that they're seeking
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right i mean that in itself is a form that they're not being prejudiced against if they were
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discriminated against they wouldn't come over because then they couldn't get jobs or welfare
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socially like that's social employment is a social thing that's why you're on public social
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services if you don't have a job okay say you have a job but like you're discriminated by other
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members of society people have thicker skin they i mean she crossed the rio grande i mean like oh
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my god they called me yeah i'm saying so that it's like only americans are that so that wouldn't
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deter them is what i'm saying yeah coming over that only americans i'm like oh and not americans
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i take that back not americans liberal americans who have nothing to complain about so they found
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they live in a bubble okay we don't care how how they call it no exactly it's basically virtue
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signaling wealthy well-off like middle-class girls who are like i literally have nothing to
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complain about but i have to come up with something to look like a good person because
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you don't know how good you have it you guys are making the same point as i made if like a mexican
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immigrant had a job and they'd like receive some prejudice they wouldn't care because they have a
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job everyone yeah even if they receive prejudice it's like it's so inconsequential we literally
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don't even care she just made the same so and not only that we're like if anything even preferred
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because as we've already commented a lot of men like hispanic women a lot of women like hispanic
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men but you're supporting the point that she's trying to make i made that point initially no
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once again i have never faced any discrimination i think the most discrimination you face is just
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documentation status that's about it it's just documentation that doesn't even just apply to
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hispanic let me tell you no one has ever discriminated just because you're hispanic
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they discriminate people have your documentation there's like slurs for like mexican people like
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what is it like starts with a b i'm not gonna say it that's not even a big one it's like every
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we laugh we laugh get you a mexican friend the biggest slur the biggest slur came from liberals
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calling us latin x invalidating our culture that was the most detestable thing anyone's ever called
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me okay that is true literally they were like trying to decolonize spanish i'm like wait a
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And at this point now, I understand the most Dutch person in the world.
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No Hispanic or Mexican in the U.S. has ever received any sort of racist judgment.
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I think white people have received more racist judgment than the average Hispanic in their own nation, including Europe.
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By the multinational corporations and minorities who are not technically minorities because they're like global majorities.
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If you're for socialism, if you're for welfare,
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American people who are not receiving the welfare
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why exactly are you for the people that they're importing
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getting the welfare that is not going to the Americans?
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You can continue basically moving the goalposts,
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I said earlier, I'm not for illegal immigrants
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because they've been in my town for over a year.
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We've been using our jails as a detention center
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and not one violent gang outburst of protests have occurred.
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who was from Guatemala and I said oh did you move here from Guatemala and they said no I actually
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moved here from Colorado do you remember when the Venezuelan gangs were quote not terrorizing the
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neighborhoods yeah they said they had to leave because these Venezuelan gangs were so bad they
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were terrorizing their neighborhoods and so these illegal immigrants that were not vetted were
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actually harming the legal immigrants who came here paid their dues working hard paying taxes
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and they had to move because they didn't feel safe so we're actually when you sit in a bubble
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and say oh you're so mean you're living outside of reality because they're actually you live in
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a bubble and these people are the ones getting affected by the illegal immigration you're not
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affected by it and you're over here on your little palace stool talking oh these white people are so
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mean i didn't say white people were mean i never said that i just said there's probably hispanics
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but i think your username and discord might be different can you send me a message really quick
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man um yeah but thank you uh so the question is what is a country what is an american we can do
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that super quick and then we'll go back starting with you a country i guess would be like a
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globally like recognized state with a population probably like by my personal like opinion like
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recognized by the UN. Okay. What about you? So I think a country is basically land where
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actually there's population and yeah, it's recognized globally. And what is an American?
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I mean, American, I would say is everybody that lives in the American continent. So yeah.
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You know what? Because I can preemptively, I'm actually have telepathy. I can actually read
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everyone's mind on this so i'm just gonna uh a country is a distinct defined area of land
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such as a nation or state that is usually politically independent with its own government
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population and borders and then what is an american americans are citizens or nationals
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of the united states of america period i disagree that's what the the google says are we talking
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about north america south america latin america you know what let's do this uh let's finish up
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going around the table on the would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant so I don't
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know where we left off into the mics a legal immigrant closer to the mic yeah okay what about
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you I dated a hardcore liberal not that was tough so definitely a legal immigrant illegal immigrant
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they're both very bad options um the liberal very emotional men I'm a tough woman I can't deal with
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that and an illegal immigrant I would have to be responsible for him if he commits a crime but I
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I would probably have to go with the illegal immigrant
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because we would probably share the same morals and values.
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I have to say just a liberal because I can change him too.
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I didn't know he had the option to change them.
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Robert Tanner, just a reminder if you can, send me...
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Robert Tanner, I'm going to send you a message in Discord here in just a moment.
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You know, that's what I was going to message him on.
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So I'm going to ask him if I can do something else or I'll have to, like, get a – I'll have to order some champagne.
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Robert Tanner, I'm going to message you on Discord.
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I'm going to see if you're down to swap it for some sort of other perk or something else besides the champagne perp, perp, pop?
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But if you insist on the champagne pop, I will order some more champagne.
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Really quick, though, do you think we should deport the illegal immigrants?
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like not the exact methodology but i believe deportation is like so like but you're fine
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physically apprehending them well it depends on how they're being physically apprehended but
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like assume it's the necessary amount of force to apprehend somebody minimum necessary amount of
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force most of the people left because they were incentivized most of the deportation numbers that
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you're seeing they were given an option leave now you get this amount of money or leave now
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That's most of the deportations that are going on right now, self-deportation.
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We are going to change topics here a little bit.
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All right, the question is for the women, starting with you.
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Would you date a man who owns a firearm who's pro-Second Amendment?
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i live in california in this scenario i mean i prefer that people can own firearms in california
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i prefer that to not be the case but it wouldn't be a deal breaker if i found it out later on so
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you'd prefer he not have a firearm yeah what about you oh yes of course i'm fine with it okay what
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about you um i'm okay with it too my husband has guns he has guns okay a little louder when you
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can please absolutely i plan on owning a gun okay hell yeah hell yeah no against it okay i
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prefer he owns them okay i'm texas bread i have one okay uh must have yes must have gone deal
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breaker if they don't okay angelica strapped like rambo okay uh so you said no you said
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prefer not to why do you say no um i just feel like i don't want to have a gun in the house i've
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just seen like a lot of things that happen to other people with guns in the house can i have
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you scoot your mic that way yeah scoot it like yeah uh a little too much I think and like have
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it facing straight look in the camera so it's like straight towards you um strain it like yeah
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so it's like 90 degree angle with the table I guess nope still fucked it up over over correction
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back the other way there we go okay go ahead continue with your point yeah I just seen a lot
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of things that happen to other people that have guns in the house and I just don't feel like I
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want that to be an issue with me um i don't live in a neighborhood that i feel like i would need
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one and i don't go places that i feel like i need one um i do have shopped before and i've been to
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shooting ranges so i do enjoy that a little bit of paintballing here and there and the people that
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you know that had issues with guns in the house were they white or black um both okay and then
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kind of what's your position i guess similar reasoning to her and like i just feel like
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the amount of guns in circulations has a lot to do with the amount of gun violence in the u.s and
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Well, I mean, the U.S. has, like, a high amount of gun violence,
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I mean, we've got more guns than people, though, so...
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Well, actually, if you look at the murder rates of white Americans
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compared to these European countries, it's actually the same.
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Yeah, no, no, no, but off of murders total in general.
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in the play. It's saying that more than just guns have killed
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The whole thing with Irina Zerutska, she got stabbed in the third
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There's violence that doesn't necessitate a gun.
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high gun deaths is for the same reason that there's
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countries. The people who are coming from those countries
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are here and they're propagating that violence when it comes to any european or white nation
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when they have guns they use it responsibly in fact the adf itself it's it doesn't even persecute
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minorities quote unquote it persecutes white people from being able to have a bump stock
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i know a lot of these school shooters seem to be americans from the u.s
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mnn had the song he said people only care when it happens in a white high school at the end of the
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day yeah school shootings happen in black neighborhoods black high schools black everything
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What difference does it make who's doing the shootings or not?
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If the shootings are happening, if the violence, to the question that was just proposed, it's like, who cares?
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So then have a mental health test when you're getting the guns.
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Okay, if you're so frightened of being a victim of gun violence, wouldn't you want a gun?
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I wouldn't want to be sitting here like a sitting duck.
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In fact, there was just a church shooting that happened that it stopped man and just clocked the guy who was coming in.
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Either way, when there are crimes involving guns, they're usually not getting them legally.
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It's not the owner of the gun that's following the law most of the time.
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But with all the laws that they're doing, the mental health nonsense, all of that jazz,
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it's only affecting legal gun owners that need them for their own protection.
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I was just going to say the reason that it's so easy to get them illegally is because there's so many in circulation as well.
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No, it's because they're coming from Mexico once again.
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And Mexico's getting them from, I think, well, I can't name the country.
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Okay, but we're saying that we don't need them for our protection.
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If we were to make guns illegal, would there be less illegal gun purchases?
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But I mean, like, if we were to ban guns in America, there would probably be less illegal guns, right?
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I mean, yeah, but I don't necessarily think we should just ban guns.
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if you were to ban abortion, there would be less illegal abortions?
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No, I'm just checking for later in the debate when we talk about it.
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If we banned abortions, there would probably be more illegal abortions.
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If we banned guns, there would probably be more illegal gun purchases.
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But you're doing things that are a slippery slope towards banning guns.
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I just said I wouldn't want to date a guy who owned a gun because owning a gun is a slippery slope.
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You're making it more and more restricted as to what you can access.
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Back in the day, people were able to own whatever they wanted to.
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So you're not for banning guns, but you don't want a gun yourself.
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So you want everybody else to have access to a gun except yourself.
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I never said I want everyone else other than myself to have access to a gun.
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I just said I don't personally want one in my household.
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I've primarily said for the same reasons as her.
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If you personally don't want to own a gun, same thing with abortion.
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Why don't you personally not own a gun and let everyone else own whatever they want?
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Also, I'm surrounding myself within a community of people who don't.
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We were talking about do we have a gun, do we want a gun.
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And again, the Second Amendment doesn't say everyone should carry a gun.
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So how exactly do you think your man's going to protect you if you don't want him to have a gun?
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I want to live in areas where people come around.
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I'm just saying, there's not gun violence in California.
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Technically, when it comes to men, I'm pretty sure you think my man is Batman, and that's crazy.
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Technically, the thing is that it doesn't matter if the man is going to protect you.
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Guns are the great equalizer, technically, for women, where it's like you don't have to necessitate physical violence.
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like guns aren't actually the equalizer between the sexes what's your logic i mean well because
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men are better men with guns are always going to be able to overpower women with guns just because
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of physical force and because of their ability to handle a firearm better correct but if you're at
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a distance you have a better aim at being able to make it more equal no like it doesn't matter
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like it helps it helps i'm just men have better reaction time as well they do have better
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but it's just a point second so it's like if that point second is really what matters okay the men
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is going to win but typically it's not just a point second typically women can use guns when
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they're being assaulted they have it in their purse yeah and they're able to pull out and
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like shoot an assailant who doesn't know that they're armed i mean you need to when you own a
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gun you you have to learn like guns at weapon safety weapon safety you need to learn de-escalation
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tactics you don't just go straight for the shot yes you do yes that's the thing that with women
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well that's true but the thing is that when it comes to police officers to your point
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female officers if they're like in a violent encounter they are more likely to shoot you
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so it's like i'm not risking my life if you got a gun i'm pulling it out i'm sorry
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Women are more stressed or more emotional.
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That women are more stressed or more emotional.
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Men are better at dealing with stress in a situation.
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So I think, yeah, the men would definitely be more powerful with a gun.
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Also, I wanted to ask you, so you said that you probably don't need a gun
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because you live in California and it's a little crime, right?
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Well, like the area of California that I would live in as well.
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Because there are other areas that appeal more to me.
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Why does it not appeal to you if you don't know much about it?
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Can you tell me the one thing you know about Compton?
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I mean, the race of the neighborhood is not a big deal to me.
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Because there are areas that I would rather live.
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That's why you don't know anything about immigrants.
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Why are you defending immigrants when you don't want to live around them?
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It's like you don't want them in your own neighborhood, but you're wanting them in the country.
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That's actually what most of the gun crimes are.
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I wouldn't live in the Bay because it's white.
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I mean, I grew up there, so there's a lot of places there that I like.
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That's why you don't know anything that we're talking about.
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She's talking about welfare for people that aren't even belong to the country.
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Who's giving up welfare, the working class?
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Doesn't everyone want to live in an affluent area if they can do it?
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But at least people who are not in the affluent circles have reality.
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They have point of view perspective as to the real world.
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So are you just criticizing me for being affluent?
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The entire world is affluent and that it works on their path.
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No, we're just criticizing you because you don't know the world, but you are young.
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But you look down on people who say things like, I don't think we should have illegal
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immigration because you live nowhere near them.
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I said I wasn't for illegal immigration either.
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I said I was fine with deportation with the minimum physical force necessary.
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I said illegal immigration is not a good thing.
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I said it should be prevented in the first place.
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But you're putting words into my mouth, twisting my worldviews, and strawmanning me over and
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and when i take sure they get welfare no oh okay then we agree oh my god your voice is annoying
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as hell okay that's great you're being racist against a half puerto rican why are you bigotting
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why are you so bigoted how is that no not puerto rican it's just you oh no no no no that's fine
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oh i'm introverted compared to them so it's really just a cultural thing right
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the question was literally would she date somebody and the whole point this is an eight-hour podcast
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you have to talk about the subjects we have plenty of time to put words in my mouth
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i would prefer to date a man who owns guns i like i that i want to but just because she said she
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would prefer not to doesn't you're just totally putting words in her mouth we moved faster we
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were asking all the way around basically and then there was the whole denial of like no i think
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you're putting words in her mouth i don't think so i can't keep track of what she says because
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she says and then takes it back so i can't i can keep talking what i what i say you can't because
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Because you guys keep twisting the things I say.
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Can you please give me an example of when we twisted something or when we ended up moving the goalposts?
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And that's why we're having a hard time keeping up.
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That's the whole point of a conversation is to get to the point of agreement.
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She does kind of keep on changing what she says.
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i also like probably because her voice is drowning it out god damn at the end of the day all you have
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is my voice because you're not speaking up for your own point of view you have no articulation
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when it comes to your own point of view so my articulated earlier that was the last way what
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i think that was the last thing i said you actually want to be condescending this entire time i don't
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i actually disagree with that but honestly she snickered at me for something i said we're on
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different pages but i don't think she's been honestly i'm not gonna lie i think honestly i
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I think Hannah is just like the quintessential sweet feminine girl who, whenever someone
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gets dogpiled, she just has to defend them.
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But at the same time, logically speaking, this is not the case.
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Everyone here is saying that she's been moving the goalpost.
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You being nice to her or her making a great argument and changing tens of thousands of
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I think it's great to make a great argument, but I think if you really want to make a great
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argument you need to actually talk and like have some type like you guys are just yelling yeah
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to be completely if you really want to learn how to communicate with somebody you actually
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you need to also be open to listening to hear her yeah you keep just speaking over her you keep
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bashing and her opinions out but like do you hear your tone even now like and i'm being so serious
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she called me hostile by the way like before the podcast started as opposed to and now she's
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And by the way, I've been speaking on the same tone this whole time.
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When it comes to feminine dialogue, which I appreciate and should be promoted,
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when it comes to feminine dialogue, which I think should be encouraged and promoted,
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Hannah is the best example of someone trying to facilitate a kind dialogue.
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When it comes to political subjects, which actually proves the point,
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when it comes to political subjects, you enter the masculine aggressive field because policy matters.
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So when you're going to talk about policy, as you've been doing, you have to expect a masculine energy.
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But at the end of the day, if women have the right to vote
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If women are politicized, this is what you should expect
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And if you can't handle it, get out of the kitchen
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And then as soon as she got half a sentence out
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You have to also give space for people to give their full
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Do you list me an example of when I interrupted her?
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well I mean like some women can't defend themselves
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what if a woman is walking alone home at night
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and a man comes up to them and tries to rape them
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I mean, ideally not be walking out at night, but then call the police, like, try and get away from this individual as far as possible.
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They shouldn't be walking around at night?
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I would put the blame in this scenario on the man who's trying to...
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The man is fully at fault, but it still is a reality that if a woman's walking alone home at night at, like, midnight...
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I'm saying it's not safe to do that because there exist people who do that.
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What if they're working, what if they didn't come from a rich family like you did, and
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they're working like an eight-hour shift at her Mexican restaurant, right?
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So what if there's some like nine out of ten, like Latina working at a restaurant, very
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pretty, very prone to rape, walking home at night because she can't afford a car like
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Not all places have trouble with public transport.
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Or even a guy got stabbed in the throat in public transport.
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So how would a woman defend herself if she's on public transport where there's all these
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brown and black illegal immigrants on the public transport.
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Because most people on public transport are poor,
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which means they have a higher chance of committing crime.
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So you think a woman on a bus going home is more likely to get stabbed?
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Have you been on a bus than someone walking home at night?
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Oh, no, no, no. Walking home at night, probably equal chance.
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You wouldn't know because you're not taking it.
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Literally, there's no one patrolling it anymore because they just gave up.
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Well, here, but I'm still saying I take public transport.
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If you're spatially aware, why wouldn't you walk at night if your area was nice?
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I take the bus here because it's faster to get to school.
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What about the 22-year-old, 9 out of 10 Latina, working at a restaurant, maybe her vegan restaurant,
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walking home at night, has to walk a mile after their 8-hour shift from 4 to midnight.
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There's all these illegal immigrants on there
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I never even said I was against the second event
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well not only that globally speaking the world is very
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violent towards women the western nations is the only
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place where women have any similitude or illusion
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of safety but we're losing that quickly because
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they look at women and they're like oh they're weak
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we're going to go attack them and take what is ours
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Even if it's not perfect, it gives us a chance.
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You're saying how, oh, well, what about the situation?
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Oh, no, there was like a piggyback of conversation.
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This entire podcast, you have been so wishy-washy.
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Can you please state your values on gun control, on immigration?
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If you want to own a gun in the U.S., go ahead and do that.
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hope something can be done about the amount of gun violence
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But why don't you talk about neighborhood shootings?
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You guys got to only ask her one question at a time.
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You can't bombard her with three questions in a row.
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If you told me right now that implementing gun regulation would lower the collective rate of gun violence in the U.S., then I would say yes, I'm for that.
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So if you lower the gun violence in the United States, you would be for that policy?
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if it and if that result was completely clear because like people say like oh this regulation
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still might lead to this amount of gun violence and it might not work i'm not for that but if i
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know that you would be maximizing the amount of safety in this country and there would be less
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gun violence i would be for that so you would deport black people back to africa let me get
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this straight that's very racist of you we're talking about gun regulation no but you're talking
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about gun violence actually gun violence murder rates are committed by 60 of african americans
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you remove them from the equation you get equal safety levels as europe if you want to be more
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specific on that it's actually like 55 percent of gun violence there's many like there's many
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reasons that that's the case that go back for white people like it's literally like thousands
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of years and how many more white people are in the united states than black people you don't
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understand you're arguing against your case in this case i'm not arguing against my case 57 of
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the country is white 15 of the gun violence rate is white 60 of gun violence is committed by black
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people 13 of the country is black you're arguing against your why do you think that is though
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Why do you think black people commit more crimes?
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For Brian's sake, I'm not going to go into it.
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For the same reason, Africa is also equally as violent.
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Yeah, wait, black people weren't enslaved in Africa to the rate that they were in America.
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Why does Africa have higher crime rates than blacks in America do?
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Wait, wait, what about Ethiopia, who defeated Italy?
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They were probably still subject to effects of colonialism.
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But, Shona, is anybody here in favor of reparations?
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I don't think reparations is the correct solution, no.
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Because we do have two African-Americans here.
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Some of these topics have gone a bit political,
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It's still probably going to get political on this.
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I didn't even know my story made a headline here,
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do you think dating right uh well let me ask riley a question riley can you date a uh a trans
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no woman no no do you uh question is it do you think it's straight for a man to date a trans
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woman i mean technically yeah technically yes before we respond but i understand why it's not
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everyone's preference it's okay fair let's what was the question i just asked it is it is it
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straight heterosexual for a man say riley here uh not that he would uh to date a transgender woman
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no that's gay that's gay okay um if they're fully transitioned then no but yes so you're saying if
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they're post-op uh they have the neo neo vagina then yeah that would be heterosexual is that what
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you're saying straight it would be straight it's a literal inverted penis but before we dive in
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uh your thoughts no it's not straight it is it would be gay it is your position yeah okay what
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do you think gay gay okay i think that if you're dating a trans person i feel like and you know
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that they're a trans person it puts you on some type of spectrum okay so maybe bisexual yeah you
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might say but would they be strictly straight i don't think they'd be strictly straight okay
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absolutely not okay what do you think gay gay gay gay homosexual gay i have a question i wouldn't
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date a man who i have a question dated a trans yeah hold on okay you would view a trans man as
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a woman right no trans man as a woman that's misogyny yes right okay so then as a straight man
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would it not then be like straight for you to kiss that trans man they would be straight of me to do
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that okay i was just curious about that yeah also another thing what was your definition that's
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consistent under your worldview and so when what was your answer to this question again i just want
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you to restate it she said you said that it was straight you said that it would be straight right
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Gender is like, well, I think I would have to come up with a definition more in detail.
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Yeah, you'd have to come up with a lot of shit to excuse that.
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Can you say, I think you automatically lose the argument?
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You don't think about your opinions before you say them?
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i'd say it's like a it's it's like a social it's a social identity mapped onto a bio biological
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reality that is so misogynistic that same definition can't i use that same definition
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for a man not really because the social identity that i mentioned like has no what was the social
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identity that you mentioned because you never mentioned one that encompasses like what is
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considered like like feminine down like not just feminine but like is she feminine she has short
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hair no but there's probably like characteristics of being a woman that she could identify with
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okay just because you identify with characteristics you're saying because she has short hair she's
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masculine yeah that is low iq i just had this conversation with my nephew he's six and i had
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to explain to him that men can have long hair and women can have short hair it doesn't make you the
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opposite doesn't make you feminine or masculine yeah and it's just quite misogynistic okay then
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I would even say feminine traits, but for example,
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I asked, what is a woman? You said somebody who
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essentially has feminine characteristics or traits.
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Well, you're asking me about those characteristics.
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Wait, let's hear it. What are feminine characteristics?
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When I say, like, characteristics, it's about, like,
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it's about your place in society, how you're perceived,
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And, like, there's a wide scope that goes, like, within that.
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You haven't named a single feminine characteristic.
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You're just like, oh, the way you get treated by society
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like what is a feminine characteristic well there's like aesthetic implications no no name it
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describe it well it's it's not so black and white like there's not key like okay you said like
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let her let her finish your answer i mean i wouldn't say there's like a certain like fixed
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like characteristic that every woman has aside from sex but like like as i said like like
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identifying with like i like being treated as a woman's society like dating wise or like with
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like the way you want to present yourself there's like if someone wants to identify with those
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social characteristics then i believe that you have yet to name a single feminine characteristic
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or trait not a single one in fact the example was oh you're masculine because you have short hair
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when he never said that in fact there was words being put into his mouth for that so for all of
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the argument of words being put in it's actually generalizing too like there are super flamboyant
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gay men who do not identify as women that does not make them women they're just flamboyant and
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they're treated as women because they're the boss man is a woman is very misogynistic if we go back
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to brown versus border education there's something about being a man that they can probably still
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identify with if okay just because you identify with something doesn't make you that i can identify
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as a duck am i a duck well when it comes to gender which i think is something that was why is it just
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gender can i can i say hey i'm black i'm a black woman can i you're gonna ask her a question you
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do oh you ask your mind okay all right if you're gonna ask her a question you gotta let her actually
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answer the question okay i just think when it comes to gender like i'm not gonna sit here and
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trying to invalidate like what someone chooses to identify with okay so you have no definition
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for woman at all i already gave it initially off the bat but we should go we should go on i like
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i started off with a definition but uh what is a woman i said it's like a social it's it's a social
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construct mapped onto a biological reality hey knock it off please repeat yourself a social
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construct mapped onto a biological reality a female adult with a vagina that can give birth
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okay oh yeah uterus wait what if a woman's infertile why are you making that woman a man
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by saying that she's infertile that's sexist against women because she has a medical problem
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I mean she can I mean she can be infertile but yeah I mean a woman is someone that has a vagina
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that has a clitoris that you know that basically was born with that genitalia what if a woman went
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through a shark attack and she didn't have like anything why would that make her not a woman
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a hypothetical is a good way to test your definition how many fingers does a human have
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10 10 okay if somebody lost one of their fingers are they not a human anymore
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no they're still a human okay so why would she not be a female anymore just because she went
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through an accident well i'm saying she would i'm just checking with her because she said that
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a vagina was a requirement it is it is she came to the correct answer in the same way in the same
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way that you said not being a man that's for sure well i don't think that would be a man i'm just
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saying like if suddenly the if you're a trans man let's get the answers from the rest of the
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panelists you said you has a uterus okay generally a female adult female adult adult
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human female with xx chromosomes okay someone with a vagina someone with a vagina what just
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for clarification someone born with one excuse me born with a vagina okay same okay yeah i was
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gonna say xx chromosomes all right same same same well you have the standard xx chromosomes in a
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vagina but to be very legalistic about it i would say ovaries is the major requirement you would
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need oh but what if she's born without ovaries no i'm just kidding that's dumb but that's yeah
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what if she's intersex um you are never born with functioning ovaries and functioning testicles it
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has never happened in human history ever you have one reproductive pathway if you that's it even if
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you have like xxy chromosomes or you have xx chromosomes but like a crap ton of testosterone
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or something you still will have either functioning ovaries or functioning testicles or it's never
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been a human who produces both uh really quick we have a soup chat from rowey from our australian
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friend i define her as a kent kent oh because he's australian is that to her character traits
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i don't get it who's her i kind of get it i think he's oh wait hold on
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too late i fucked elaborate uh thank you for your soup chat man very much appreciate it
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um well shona i have a clarifying question here and i don't know if this is going to be helpful
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but uh so you said that i will say regarding my definition of a woman like i would want more time
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to kind of like solidify my worldview on it but as it stands i don't like invalidate the
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invalidate the identity of someone who wants to like identify as a gender that they're not
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born as are you a woman yes how do you know because like it's a part of my identity like
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socially and then also like biologically which i acknowledged in my definition earlier and what
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do you mean my biologically like my sex like my body like like i i i was born a woman like it's
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my assigned sex at birth no but like like what part of your body though like what exactly makes
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you a woman my chromosomes well i'm speaking i'm speaking to the biological aspect that you're
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asking about and well i just don't want to like just like start using words like relating to
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genitalia okay yeah yeah sure about which chromosomes xx or xy xx thank you but that's
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just speaking to the biological aspect like i still like socially and in terms so if you can't
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define a social definition maybe we should just stick with the physical definition of it i mean
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aesthetically i like okay i'm not saying this is like a requirement for every woman out there but
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like i like growing up like i was perceived as a woman and like that felt like a part of my identity
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that felt correct to me i exist and i move through society as a woman that feels correct to me
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like aesthetically i and also just interest wise i really like feminine things like that's just to
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speak to like my social reality as a woman you invalidated the identity of undocumented immigrants
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who identify as american immigrants but yet you're trying to not invalidate the identity of men
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then and what did i say regarding immigrants that you're not trying you you want to invalidate the
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identity of illegal immigrants who come here by saying they're not americans even though they
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identify as such but you don't want to invalidate the identity of men who have perversions who
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commit statistically way more violence against women because that hurts well if someone's illegal
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here and they've spent their whole life here i don't think that like i i understand like the
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on the need for deportation there but i think culturally in a lot of ways they still could
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be american so i didn't even completely invalidate that yeah hold on let me do a couple uh things but
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we'll come back to this topic here in just a moment i don't think whether or not you're american
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get us to 2 000 likes uh i guess quick question shona on the trans topic um so you you think it
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is straight for a man to date a trans woman that would be heterosexual i said yes but i understand
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why like that attraction may not exist all the time because you can't help attraction even if
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even if i like respect someone's identity for example i cannot help if i'm not attracted to
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it well yeah but i mean you would see this even in opposite sex instances for example not all
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uh males find all females attractive even if they're genuinely uh female or genuinely a woman
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like not you you don't find all men attractive do you yeah right so it's i'm not really interested
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in the preference component i'm just clarifying that right yeah yeah of course but um you do think
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it would be straight like as a descriptor as a uh for your in terms of what you believe is to be
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true you would say that a man dating a trans woman that is definitionally heterosexual
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period yeah although i will say there's like a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to like
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let's say someone who's transitioned but they've not made like that's only like something that
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they've declared and they've not made any like um like physical transitions yet so let's say
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let's say you picture like a man and then like you have a you have someone who was a man who just
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decided they wanted to identify as a woman suddenly aesthetically you have like what maybe someone
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would think is two men standing next to each other like obviously i'm trying to say let's say
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let's say they're passing uh outwardly but they haven't had uh any sort of genitalia surgery
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let's say that's straight that would be straight so just to be clear let me let me paint a picture
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and you tell me if this sounds like a heterosexual act uh let's say you're outside an apartment
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and uh a man walks by and this is going to seem super autistic but he says i am a cis i hate this
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fucking term but i'm a cis man and i'm straight and he walks into the apartment and then uh you
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see a trans woman go in and they disclose to you that they're trans by the way i don't know why
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they would ever do this but for the sake of the hypothetical so they tell you they're trans huh
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am i physically present here you said they're just you're you're like i don't know it's at
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your dorm and you see them going into the dorm room or some shit a trans woman going to the
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dorm room yeah not your dorm room another dorm room okay okay uh and maybe it's like across the
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way so you can see into the window and you see that the cis man the man is performing oral sex
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on the trans woman's penis would you describe this as a straight heterosexual act the sexual
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act or like their sexual orientation hold on so i would still i would still call if a man
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okay if a man a true man and a true woman are having sex you would agree that that's a heterosexual
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act right i define the act by the people having it not exactly like what they're doing
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okay so hold on so but my my question still stands you see a man so okay there's a trans woman who uh
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it wouldn't look like the straightest thing to me but i would still call it straight so long as i
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hold on let me finish all right all right so you have a uh the trans woman right so wig makeup fake
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titties in a dress um playing a woman but does in fact have a massive schlong okay gigantic
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fucking peen right all right huge peen one of the biggest congrats i guess uh why this is why you
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need the i love big dick swag anyway all right irrelevant um so you then see the man performing
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oral sex fellatio on the trans woman uh the trans woman's penis would you categorize this as a
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heterosexual act technically yeah would it look that well technically yeah so technically it would
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be heterosexual it would be straight to see a man sucking a penis that's straight to you okay
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what i'm saying so wait and it's also really quick really quick also it's a it's a um the trans woman
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is in possession of a penis do i have that correctly the woman has a penis
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okay that's the question posed yes go ahead i would say yes although i'll say this image would
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seem just as absurd absurd to me as like everyone else on this table like this is not something that
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i would like be able to picture very well or i would kind of catch like i would wait wait how
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could but i don't understand so you do acknowledge that there are plenty i don't know what the
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breakdown is like my understanding is most trans people have intact penises like if you're a trans
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woman what i'm trying to say is just because something doesn't like initially seem that
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straight to me so long as i choose to respect these people's identity i'm still going to
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consider you can respect their identity but i'm asking you if you were to witness such an act
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would you ever categorize it as a heterosexual sexual act in the case that that woman that
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trans woman identifies as a woman then yeah so you okay just to be clear it it's hetero it's
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heterosexual for a man to suck a penis i mean suck a dick there's no women penises it's just vagina
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like you're you're you're using like a slightly far-stretched hypothetical but i don't it's not
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to you, I'll call it straight. But really quick, so I
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I would still understand that that man is perceiving the trans woman as a woman.
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Just because you're perceiving something in some way doesn't mean it's true.
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But when we're talking about sexuality, it's opposite sex.
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Like if we're talking about heterosexual, that stands for opposite sex attraction.
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And what I would say is just because something doesn't make sense to me and I can't relate to it, if it makes sense to them, I'm going to respect it.
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But why are we, as a society, forced to play make-believe with...
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What if I had a 13-year-old girlfriend who identified as 21?
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I actually have a story about a transgender person that did something very terrifying to me,
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A sexual encounter between a trans woman and a man happening in private,
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You can say that you respect that, but also it's not a heterosexual act.
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You can totally respect it, but at the end of the day, it's fine.
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I'm not even trying to say picturing that act.
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Let's say you're a woman, you're wearing a dildo or a strap-on or whatever,
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and he's sucking on the strap-on, does that automatically make him gay?
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I think when a woman pegs a man, it's gay.
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It's not actually gay because he's still a woman.
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I would say it's not gay because you're still with a woman.
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Socially speaking, that could be a heuristic to come to that conclusion.
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But ultimately, if he's not willing to do that with a man, then he still maintains the confines.
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If he's willing to suck a plastic dick, he's a freaky guy, but he's still straight.
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if he's doing it with a man a rubber penis spiritual that's a whole different other energy
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that's a whole different other essence i agree with you i have picked a man yeah that's not
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gay but it's freaky he wasn't gay how do you know but it's not gay like her system of defining this
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is actually the same as mine because i'm saying it doesn't depend on like the sexual details of
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what happening of what's happening even if it looks gay even if it looks straight we're talking
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on the identity of the person what if what if a man is having sex with a 13 year old girl who
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identifies as 21 it depends on the identity of the person yeah this is a slippery slope
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But what if they think of it as she's actually older
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Please don't tell me I'm trying to find a scenario
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Children marriage happens in other countries
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Maybe we should restrain from the child narrative.
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But I would say, honestly, when it comes to the whole trans woman narrative, the trans man narrative,
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when it comes to a woman transitioning into a man, there are severe traumas that have not been assessed,
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and she is doing permanent physical mutilation to her body.
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If you're okay with that, then ten toes to the floor.
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I think there should be an age minimum for any physical...
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I think across the board, you are mutilating your body.
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Why would a doctor who has a HIPAA compliance oath do that to someone?
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If a man in his brain thought that his dog was an adult human female, would it be okay for that man to have sex with his dog?
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I have a bit of a hot take because somebody brought up pegging.
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I think if you're a guy and you like getting pegged, it's kind of gay.
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they're definitely going out and getting pegged by a man girl
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Wait, can I go back to this young lady's point?
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Yeah, like if you're a straight man, like your brain, I don't think you would even go there.
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She said most people that transition end up committing.
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I used to work for a hormone specialist in Solana Beach, California,
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and so I used to have to follow around and listen to everything.
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What I learned from her is that hormones are the center of our health.
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Doctors take a Hippocratic Oath, and in that Hippocratic Oath, it is what?
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If our hormones, even if a woman who has PCOS or whatever.
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Even if it's someone that's done prostitute.
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It throws off our hormones, which throws off our thyroid.
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Now, if you want to dress up as a woman, by all means.
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But to sit there and chop your reproductive system that regulates your hormones and to say that's health care, it's not.
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And if you want, I have a story about a trans person.
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I have a personal story, and this is why I'm so passionate about it.
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this was a trans woman had everything but the bottom surgery looked like a man though i mean
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like huge six four huge i wish i could pull out my phone and show a picture was a friend um he
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would come over all the time and you know we'd smoke weed we were just like stoner friends
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together or whatever well she i'll say now this person had my last name and his first name were
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the same just keep that in the back of your mind one day he comes over he's drumming his fingers
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and staring at me. He said, I have something I need to talk to you about. Now I'm working from
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home. It's during COVID. I'm talking to my boss while I'm talking to my boss that I just felt this
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like stare and I look over and the way he was looking at me and just drumming his fingers at
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me. And I was genuinely terrified. So my cousin called after my meeting with my boss and I went
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outside, came back in for all I knew Kelly was gone. Okay. And I was like, okay, thank God that
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was so uncomfortable well i'm like working from home all of a sudden i get a this is when i live
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in california a beating on the door and i look out and everyone knows that california cops you have
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to be basically in the middle of murdering someone for them to even do anything so when i saw what i
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saw my people it was terrifying so many cops so many um firefighters so many everything and i
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opened the door and they said kelly and you're kind of talking a lot oh sorry you're okay but
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Okay, I said, I think you have the wrong person.
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And I went into and found, like, they pulled him out,
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and I found a sack of every drug you can think of.
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He was doctor hopping, mental health to the roof bad,
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all the i mean hormones everything i mean that is not medical that's not medicine and most of
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them are being treated this way well that's the thing you hate this this trans person because
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they had a lot of hormones that were found i'm just checking what you said no because they were
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hiding in my bedroom and and threatening to hurt me okay i understand they were on all these hormones
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i was just checking yeah okay thank you you were being so condescending huffing and puffing at her
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story do you respect i didn't help him puff at her story i was listening you have do you do you
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respect men with porn addictions do i do you respect men with porn addictions no then why do
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you respect trans women they're literally transitioning because they watch too much
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porn that's everyone transitions because they watch too much porn i don't know what this
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is they always transition because there's a link i don't know if it's saying that children
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and autogynephilia is a real like reason so every trans person is a porn addict no she never said
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and they usually transitioned because they had a terrible
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relationship with their father once it became a trend
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trans maxing after watching enough pornography
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if you actually look at the written work of
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there there is like a kink aspect for some i don't know if it's all but like if you think about
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the percentage of men who watch porn it kind of checks out because if you the way that porn
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websites work is it starts you you know with something really simple and then the whole like
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websites are designed to kind of like keep shoving you into different niches and i can see how men
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could end up end up there watching that kind of content yep okay so that's just for male to female
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what are we talking about for female to male they were traumatized they're usually victims of sexual
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sexual assault another transgender or gay they like the majority of those trans people victims
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of sexual assault like from the homosexual ones are liable it's like 60 of gay men are victims of
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like csa when it comes to women most of them have had a traumatic physical experience in their
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adolescence or childhood that's why they want to chop off and so that's the causation definitively
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to you well i'm just curious because i've never read these claims because since it's becoming a
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popular thing same thing i've never seen these statistics and i've never heard these claims
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women hop on self-harm i don't know i've met a lot of trans people and this is not
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you move the goalposts you're not really the greatest when it comes to having a grasp on
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reality you use personal anecdotes earlier so i did not use any personal anecdotes you said that
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that judgment against the hispanics didn't exist because you never faced it but anyway no
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statistically speaking why would they come over if there's discrimination there is literally no
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because they could still get a job you're the one using anecdotes saying oh they're discriminated
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is what's associated with the amount of money generated.
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they have to go through a hot summer, cold winter,
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they're just constantly at like 80 degrees nonstop.
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build a good shelter for the winter. Then in the summer
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it's hot. They have to figure out things. They have to go back and forth
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with these things, which is why Europe and East Asia are
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and didn't interrupt anyone for a decent bit of time.
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I do disagree with your point to an extent though, because I say that
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their own economic system based on the cultural values.
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that are subverting South America from their
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Bukele has made a perfect nation, but he was able to incarcerate
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all the criminals, where before he wasn't allowed to
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because the multinational corporations necessitated
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and prosper within their own cultural homogeneity.
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But then why not being fine remaining in Mexico?
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Why exactly were Europeans, well, actually, it predates,
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why exactly were Arabs going into Africa, subverting their nations
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In fact, even South Africa is evidence of that.
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When the Dutch were building their communities,
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When the Dutch or the British were building their civilizations,
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a lot of Africans remained in their tribal centers
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At the end of the day, it's really the Industrial Revolution that has messed everyone up, including our own country.
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This is why we're criticizing the nature of our own economy, our own civilization.
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Okay, so why do you think the Industrial Revolution happened between England and the United States, predominantly white countries?
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There's actually a really interesting documentary pertaining to this called Guns, Germs, and Steel that has to do with the distribution of germs and bacteria, as well as where steel was found and who was able to invent guns.
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So it's because Europeans lived in dense cities and stuff, and that's why there's disease that they built immunity to, right?
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You just mentioned germs, and I'm assuming that references...
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I don't want to have a whole conversation about it, but...
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The reason Africa didn't reach the Industrial Revolution
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is because their environment gave them all of the resources.
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When it comes to Asia, they had to be collectivists
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when it comes to europe it's a wheat-based system so that's why they prioritize individualism when
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it comes to the southern europeans they're mediterranean what how did how did we get off
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first we were talking about porn and yeah and then and then men getting pegged by women and
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now we're back what are we talking about right now it's a pretty long podcast i'm like we're
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kind of honestly i'm just trying to figure out what we're talking about i don't know how we got
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to this point honestly is your name angelico yes okay i wanted to ask you so as far as the
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trans maxing do you think it's more about them trying to validate themselves no i honestly think
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it's not even a validation i think there's no identity when it comes to particularly white men
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in this country so they're seeking anything to basically get their bare minimum needs met which
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is sex so if they're going to find sex easier by being a trans which is seemingly the most
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socially promoted thing clearly then obviously they're going to go down that route but when it
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comes to my argument is anyone who promotes this trans agenda are you willing to take responsibility
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on, the way that they're going to propagate it onto children,
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the fact that we have to tax-subsidize their surgeries
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You don't have to pay $20,000 to $50,000 in childbirth.
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Isn't being trans a social disadvantage, though?
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in every academic, they get incentives for being trans.
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And I would love a time we talk after having three kids.
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It's literally just mental illness promotion.
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some security in their femininity and in their masculinity.
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I will not take responsibility for what they end up hurting themselves doing or the illusions that they end up promoting
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Will you take responsibility for the delusions that they're having and what they do to their own body?
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Would you treat a schizophrenic by talking to the invisible people that they are seeing?
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No, but that's because you're acknowledging one as a mental illness and the other as
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How is thinking that you're something that you're not a mental illness?
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Well, that's because, again, I respect these people's identity
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That goes down to whether or not you view them as a woman
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So someone that needs to be on hormones and mutilate their body
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And think that they're something that they're not
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But if a man ends up inverting his private parts
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50% of them die, including women, from the wound itself because it dies.
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Then they get infections because they're trying to pee out of something that is completely mutilated.
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Just because I said I would respect the identity of a trans person, I was not talking about that procedure.
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about their own angelica angelica if you're gonna fucking have a conversation with her
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you gotta let her finish without uh interrupting it's fucking dog shit for the audio go ahead
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i was just going to say when i say i respect a trans person's identity i am saying like okay i
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will if you want to identify as a woman i will call you as such i will treat you as such i am
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not saying that this particular procedure that has all these adverse effects on the human body
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that i am encouraging everyone to get this procedure i don't know about that procedure
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and if it's really harmful then i would and it's causing like all these people all this harm then
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i'm not for that i'm gonna identify as black sorry which is why she was saying that she doesn't care
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if they suck a penis or not because they already identified a woman which makes them a woman the
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surgery does not make them a woman but that's playing delusion can i identify as black why
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the hell not because i i don't i don't think your ethnicity is like a social construct well that's
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the point yes it is if you knew better you wouldn't think that way why do you think we're arguing with
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few do you think that white people are the dominant race in america yes or no i don't know
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do they make up the biggest like percentage yes yes but do you think that they dominate everywhere
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schools like that wasn't your original question the biggest well that's what i mean i don't know
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i don't know where she's going and then do they dominate everywhere those are two separate okay
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do you think that white people dominate the world dominate the world no not necessarily there's like
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like a billion people in china so like if we just talk about like demographic percentages then i
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don't think they're okay do you think white people dominate america well if we're talking
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like demographically if they make up the biggest percentage then yeah but do you think we have the
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most benefits in society and we're the last less oppressed i would not necessarily know okay
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what's your where are you taking your line of questioning i don't know where she's going
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Because there's a lot of people out there that say, oh, well, white people have more of an advantage.
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Then that makes ethnicity and race a social construct when you say things like that.
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Like, someone could perceive me as one thing, but I could, like, not be that thing when it comes to, like, race.
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Like, for example, he thought I was, like, Hispanic.
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I have, like, that's, like, in my DNA that's been tested.
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Because I don't think that there's anything about that that you can relate to.
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What if I, like, knock up some women and don't take care of them?
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It's tied to, like, your, like, ethnicity is tied to your heritage.
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Yeah, but your sex just starts at your birth.
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I said, I already acknowledged the biological reality within gender earlier.
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To be fair, though, it is not part of black culture.
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I said there is equally a social aspect and a biological aspect.
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When it comes to leaving a woman pregnant out of wedlock, that is the absence of culture and responsibility.
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When it comes to black culture, there are elements of music and culture that need to be respected.
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But when it comes to leaving a woman pregnant and abandoning her, that is the absence of culture.
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I would say black does not depend on your hairstyle or music taste.
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Before we move to race, can I add something on the transgender thing?
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I think that people need to start being okay with seeing men in dresses and not calling them women.
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I think that men should be able to be feminine and to wear dresses, have long hair, whatever, without being called a woman.
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Yeah, but that was the whole thing with Kurt Cobain.
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Because it's a trend to be transgender, there is a difference between transgender people that are transgender because of the mental illness, gender dysphoria, which is real and hard to deal with, whatever, and transgender people who are transgender because they want to be part of this trend.
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They want to look feminine and call themselves a woman.
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You should be able to be feminine and wear a dress and look like a woman without calling yourself a woman.
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The last point on this that I'll have is when it comes to someone who is truly mentally ill, which used to be the case before it became a trend, would you be okay with them getting surgical procedures as opposed to psychiatric help?
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If you have some other type of delusion where you really feel like you need to have your leg chopped off, a doctor's not going to do that, obviously.
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I think that it probably should be the same for transgender people.
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you should be able to look like a woman and do feminine things without having to change the one
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thing that nobody sees you know and calling yourself a woman i'm in agreement i also just
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want to say like if you're like considering like transgender like a mental illness i really also
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hope you're really like an advocate for like mental health awareness more mental health
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resources being put into schools and things of that sort i just hope that that's the case for
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you yeah congratulations it is like you got good no i'm just i'm just checking i'm just hoping
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I'd like to lighten the mood with a poem about mathematics.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-one.
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Hey, man, you're going to be spending a lot of money tonight, man.
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If it's a poem called One Million, you got, you got shit.
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You might make me, you're going to drop like five figures, six figures tonight, maybe more.
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What would be if he can fit 25, so it would be like a million divided by 25?
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so times 200 hold on let me do the math i'm actually retarded can we at least get to 100
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though it would be 8 million it would get to 100 though i think we could get to 100 they could get
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yeah i appreciate that i appreciate that i still i still am going to do the champagne pop from
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earlier we're gonna uh shift gears here we do have a super chat also from jim bob if a woman is
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anyone that wants to claim they are a woman why do we have title nine why are you misogynist oh
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Yeah. I was going to, I tried to bring up Title IX.
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It like ensures a division between men's and women's sports and things like that.
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It happened during Brown versus Board of Education.
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The reason we have Title IX is because like sports plays a line to like your body, your physiology.
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And because like men and women from birth have very different physiology, like there needs to be something like that.
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Do you think that a trans woman or trans person in general has a duty or should have a duty to disclose to a potential romantic partner?
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I think that should be, like, something they should be honest about.
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Yeah, last week we had a woman saying that there was no duty.
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Well, there isn't, like, a legal duty, so technically someone could, like, bamboozle you.
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But I think there should be, like, a moral ethical duty.
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Like, if you're trans, you should probably disclose that and not, let's say you're super passing or whatever, although I like to think that it's usually pretty obvious, but, you know.
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Yeah, look, some of the ladyboys or whatever, I guess.
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I know someone got killed because she didn't discuss it.
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What makes them different from a normal woman?
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What does it have to do with whether or not I think they should disclose it?
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I thought they were just a normal woman, though.
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Well, I think they're a woman, but obviously they have a very different experience and a very different past.
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And that also, again, relates to their physiology in some way.
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If a man were to have sex with you, sorry, it's awkward.
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But if a man were to have sex with you, would it be gay or straight?
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I also want to clarify, I'm not attracted to trans men, personally.
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By the way, guys, my math hiccup there, I drink so much from that champagne bottle.
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I'm still a bit tipsy, so when I'm a little, you know, alcohol is involved, my math just completely.
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So, Robert Tanner, we're going to pop that in just a moment.
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Well, I do have to move it on, but we have Gorlock the Destroyer.
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This is a dating question on a scale of one, zero to ten.
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hold on let me repeat that because i fucking stuttered on a scale of zero to ten rate your
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own looks face body total can't pick seven so do it like for example i'll go ahead and rate myself
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uh face 4.5 body 4.5 total 4.5 so if you can break it down like your face rating body rating
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total rating starting with you can i just say like 6.5 uh no just do face body total so total
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would be i'll just say 6.5 for everything so can you do face 6.5 6.5 body 6.5 total 6.5
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i think you're stop stop stop stop stop sorry stop we don't need the constant buttons on some
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of these just allow the people let me go around the panel go ahead face six body six total six
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okay uh face six body six total six as well okay um face four and a half body six
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TOTAL FIVE. FACE FIVE, BODY FIVE, TOTAL FIVE. FACE FIVE POINT FIVE, BODY SIX POINT FIVE, I DON'T KNOW, TOTAL JUST FIVE, FIVE IN GENERAL, FIVE POINT FIVE.
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EIGHT, EIGHT, EIGHT. I THINK PERSONALITY PLAYS A HUGE ROLE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKS. I KNOW. I THINK IT PLAYS A ROLE. I WOULD SAY EIGHT, EIGHT AND EIGHT.
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okay what about you um mike closer to the mic please four six
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the math is not yeah in total just like a six oh i was just trying to tell this lady that she
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undercut herself i think you're very beautiful fyi thank you yeah um i would say seven and a
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half all around like down the board uh well you can't say seven at all not seven yeah so you're
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gonna have to either go okay can I just say six and a half then sure okay okay you don't agree
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to that yeah base five body probably five and then overall five okay Riley oh my acne tanks me
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um I would say I can't say seven so eight eight eight all right and uh I get myself four point
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We don't want to open up ourselves to any more controversy.
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Oh, so you, okay, we do have some 10s then maybe at the table.
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I mean, I do think there are some over ratings, admittedly.
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But, yeah, usually I'm going to kind of pick on somebody who gives themselves a 10 or a 9
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or something i mean the there was a couple over ratings i will i'll rate you guys super quick but
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we're not going to actually linger on this topic quite as long as we normally do okay so uh let's
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see here uh i i should repeat your ratings uh you gave yourself 6.5 uh you gotta just let your
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uh i put on like one little cluster on the edge but mostly are you wearing hair extensions no
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this is my real hair okay uh you gave yourself 6.5 i think i'd put you like 5.56 okay uh you
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four to four point five you gave yourself a six uh you've got full anime girl makeup uh what's
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that what's the term for it uh the the the there's a specific term for that kind of it's like japanese
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style i feel like anime was right you use anime gayaru i think i think it might be that uh you're
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I have no idea what that is, but I'll take your word for it.
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So, yeah, you've got the fake lashes, quite a bit of makeup.
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It is hard to do assessments when the makeup is so robust.
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I think you got to, you got to, you're conservative, right?
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my current boyfriend had cancer and i dressed up for i dressed up as him for halloween and i went
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like all the way so i shaved my hair off i bought him a wig or he might have bought himself a wig
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but he dressed as me i dressed as him it was awesome that's so sweet admirable that you did
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that right that's amazing that's adorable i'm gonna cry well you're uh brian can't even hurt
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hate on that well yeah i mean of course uh you know the this is a thing people do if if a friend
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or family member or you know boyfriend girlfriend whatever has cancer and like a show of solidarity
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you will shave your head uh to support but it does typically at least for assessments of female
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attractiveness uh shorter hair typically does have an impact on like the assessment of attractiveness
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but i think grow the hair out lose the septum piercing yeah i miss my long hair all the time
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I think you're fairly spot on. You gave yourself an 8 there. I think you did overrate yourself.
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I'd probably give you, I want to say between a 4 and a 5. You gave yourself an 8. You are wearing
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quite a bit of makeup, although underneath the makeup there are some strong aesthetic components
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Hold on. Just to be clear. So some people think seven is average, like they're doing it off of
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like a grade, you know, like a C you'd be like a C is an average grade or whatever. And that would
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make you, uh, I don't know in this, the, if you, what, what is a C like you out of a hundred
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points, you get between 70, 70 to 80. And people think that's average grade or whatever. No,
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five is average so if you're five that's average looking um uh okay so you gave yourself a six
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you said i think i'd put you closer to a four uh you gave yourself a was it 7.5 no six and a half
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oh six six i changed it yeah six point five i'd put you closer to 4.55 uh angelica you gave
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yourself a five uh i actually think angelica you may have slightly uh underrated yourself
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i think i'd put you uh face wise these are all face ratings by the way i'm not like a rating
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body or a total uh i think angelica i'd put you closer to 5.5 riley what did you give yourself
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888 uh i don't rate dudes i'm a pass on i mean i could rate a dude you want me to rate you riley
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I would say six, but I think you're going to get more handsome with age.
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I think you're kind of in a geeky phase right now because you're very young.
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Like, I'm 30, and I kind of look at you like a little kid.
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Yeah, like, I think by the time you're my age, you're going to be a knockout.
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After you saying that, and I was going to say 4.5.
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I hate this game, but I think you're super handsome.
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I think you have pretty eyes, so I'll give you an 8.
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Yeah, I would say, like, wait, we can't do 7s with the giving the rating?
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what's the rule sure if you want to do it i would say like a seven right and i agree i think
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with time like when you age and stuff you're going to be angelica i would be with the ladies
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men get sexier with age number oh probably like right now um i'm not gonna lie like a four you
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look a little bit like a boy yeah so what does that well yeah but you have to hold on so obviously
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Riley's 21 but you'd have to factor in like yeah some of you are older so you're gonna your natural
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inclination is to be attracted to men around your age or old older men but you have to rate the
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aesthetics on their own like on their own not just your own necessarily personal preferences
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in this case Riley has pretty strong facial aesthetics maybe his only weak well one of his
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weaknesses skin clarity but he already talked about that but I mean absent the skin clarity
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You got, first of all, some of you who rated
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out of most of you. Yeah, I rated him higher than me.
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That's a little gay. How would that be gay?
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He's so much better looking than all you women
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It's just like okay how can I as a man come to a determination
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Bro, you got fucking butterfingers over there.
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That's like the second time you fucking slipped,
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I feel like you guys have confidence issues, so I mean, you might be surprised, but I would say, I'm just going to go quick to not take up too much time, but I would say 8, 6, no, no, no, 8, 4, 5, 3, 5, 7, 3, 9, 5, 5, 8.
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Bro, okay, like, you said 5 is the average, though.
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We're not talking about the average girl that you see in Santa Monica Beach, right?
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We're talking about the average girl in at least America, right?
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It does depend a bit about what you mean on average, for example.
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I feel like the best way to do it is, like, if you're a 9, then you're in the top 10 percentile.
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So, for example, you wouldn't see 10% of women would be nines, 10%.
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You'd see, like, for example, it wouldn't be, like, 10% nine, skipping down a bit, like, 10% six, 10% five, 10% four, 10% ones.
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Like, somebody to be a one, you almost never see a ten, or, like, a nine, because they're on the tens.
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like it's very rare to see somebody who's like shockingly ugly yeah so it's about like basically
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you're like really no offense like we're like so i would say you're gonna see like 50 percent of
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people fall into five okay okay so a bell curve a bell curve yeah yeah beauty is in the eye of the
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beholder and i do notice on those my 600 pound lives for some reason those women always have
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men available and ready to wipe their you know what anyways uh i mean beauty so beauty in the
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strictest philosophical sense it is subjective but in terms of assessments of beauty there are
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objective measurements that contribute to the subjective assessment of beauty so certain just
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certain characteristics like objective measurements and then it and it is also the case that for
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example i think it is objective objectively the case that say a majority of people would find
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agreement on which people are the most attractive there would be objectivity there i have a theory
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on why women sometimes struggle to answer this question uh accurately um i think women specifically
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we have a tendency to gauge attraction on like personality and other attributes do they though
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um i think in person i think dating apps do men a disservice um in that regard because
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dating apps in particular i think um men tend to be more initially attracted visually and i think
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dating apps kind of force women into that paradigm when like women are often attracted to status and
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and stuff like that that aren't purely physical characteristics i mean obviously physical
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attraction is still important but i think like when i think about how you know me and other women
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i know gauge attraction and if they like a guy it's it's often an amalgamation of characteristics
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that are not just purely physical and i think women when they're asked this question they have
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a hard time isolating just the physical attractiveness because we tend to view qualities
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in a network versus being able to isolate like a train of thought in a particular category that's
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First, overall, you don't get the call back to $1 million.
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Yeah, actually, speaking of, I need to do another champagne pop.
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We do have to get the champagne pop from the previous.
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By the way, Riley, I've noticed a couple comments you've made about black people.
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I do not, hold on, I don't agree, wait, do you want to clarify what you, like, there's
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I hope you're not going to say the, you're not saying black people.
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Well, wait, but are you saying black people are a problem?
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But they create a lot of problems, more than the average American does.
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I mean if it look if you're looking at crime statistics there may be over representation
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but I think you could adjust your messaging so as it to not land in such an abrasive because
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I think but I never said the words black people are a problem I just said there's a big problem
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in the United States it's a big problem I just think you would point everything back to black
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people like what is that or to laugh have to do with the black process no I understand I understand
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I mean, has there been, like, do you have racial animus towards black people?
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Animus, like a sort of negative sentiment towards or, like, racial hatred or anything.
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No, I just like talking about statistics and stuff.
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But I was just bringing up the laugh thing because that's been a meme for, like, a long time.
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You looked up black people laughing, and that's what you heard?
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The next time Riley brings up black people, we're going to put him where Hannah is.
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Actually, speaking of Riley, I think you should at least pay some reparations to the two women here.
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Just for some of your comments tonight, to be honest.
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Can we get a screenshot of this transaction?
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The looks rating, do we, is there anything left we have to do for the looks rating?
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Well, how about before I answer your question, you tell – because my impression is you have an objection to the question, an objection to rating people's looks.
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I really – I totally understand what you're saying, and I think that is why it's a hard question.
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I really think personality is absolutely crucial to somebody's rating.
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You could see the most gorgeous human if she is stuck up, snobby, degrading.
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He could be so kind, hilarious, a good provider.
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I feel like it's kind of like they are coexisting.
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So, yeah, but what you're doing there is this sort of tricky thing where you're adding qualifiers that may not necessarily exist.
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So you would agree with me that, like, are all attractive people pieces of shit?
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Right, so there are some good-looking people who also possess positive characteristics.
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Now, are those physically attractive people who also possess those good characteristics,
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are they going to out-compete their less attractive counterparts who also possess
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a commensurate level of positive characteristics?
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Are they going to have typically better life outcomes?
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Okay, so pretty, I'm essentially trying to get to pretty privilege.
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We see this not just when it comes to dating and relationships, but being attractive also confers benefits in life as a whole.
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Like in work, you're going to be assessed better.
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Even in like criminal cases, if you're good looking, you're more, I guess, empathetic to the jury.
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and they've done studies on this like better looking people tend to get less harsh prison
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sentences uh women who wear makeup get paid 30 more fyi well i think we should ban makeup to be
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honest we should just we should criminalize it why uh it's a crime against humanity do you use
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a beard what if you're fixed up in a dress and like you don't have like a little makeup and
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Yeah, so while beards can alter your appearance, beards are not, they're not artificial.
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Yeah, beards are not, beards are not the same as makeup.
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I would argue that with beards, they're a reflection of a man's testosterone.
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So if he can grow a beard, then that's reflective of good genes.
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And I think that although sometimes makeup can be done, if you do it under 15 minutes, as Brittany Venti says, it looks good.
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But if you take much longer to distort your face, that's very deceptive and manipulative towards anyone who's dating you.
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And I personally, if I was a man, I would feel a little bit bamboozled.
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Like, I would feel like I can't trust this person.
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Brian, would you date someone with Harry Archer?
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Just because someone uses makeup, you would not trust him?
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If you've seen it, the Asians are actually the perfect ones at this.
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They changed their face to a point where there's lawsuits going on over there.
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I do want to be, for the sake of factuality, I'm familiar with what you're talking about.
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Now, I do agree that some of these makeup applications are so, the change is so significant.
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But there was a story where, like, a woman had, maybe it was plastic surgery, she had makeup, and then she was actually super ugly, and then she had kids, and the husband, like, sued the wife or whatever.
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There's a legal sector within those countries, and Thailand, too.
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yeah by the way beards are also genetic so i mean so but would you i was just gonna ask if a girl in
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the context of dating like she wears makeup she makes it clear she's wearing makeup so you don't
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think oh this is actually how she looks she shows you what she looks like without wearing makeup so
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you already know like her pure natural face is she still being deceptive and manipulative to you
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sorry could you repeat the question i was reading something here my bad i said if a girl in the
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context of dating she wears makeup she lets it be known to you that she is wearing makeup so you
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don't think, oh, like this is actually how she looks. She shows you what she looks like without
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makeup. So you have that information clear as well. Is she still being deceptive and manipulative?
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Yes, actually to a degree. Now, first off, most women are not like on, uh, well, we could apply
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this to dating apps, for example, oftentimes on dating apps and they employ filters too,
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which is another level of deception. Uh, a lot of times on dating apps, women will not,
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for example, include a photo of them without makeup, even in that context where they have
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the ability to do it and perhaps where they should, they won't include a photo of them
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completely bare faced. Uh, your scenario is completely hypothetical. I've never had a woman
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like show up on a date with a face of makeup and be, and like volunteer. Hey, Brian, here's a photo
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of me without makeup, just so you know what you're getting into. Women don't really do that. So
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from a practical perspective, no, but I think the difference is, and also you would agree with me
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that even if a woman doesn't disclose that she's wearing makeup or doesn't show me a photo of her
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without makeup, that I could just on my own, like I'm looking at you, you're wearing makeup. I can
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tell that you're wearing makeup. Right. I think the issue here is that even though I'm aware that
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you're wearing makeup, the increase in assessment, the increase in the assessment of your
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attractiveness is not diminished by simple virtue of my awareness or consciousness or knowledge
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that you are wearing makeup it's uh your perceived attractiveness is still the same
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so even with disclosure do you think that applies to you or to everyone i'm just curious
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uh i think it would uh because a lot of guys like actually don't really care if a girl's
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wearing makeup what do you mean guys don't care that women are wearing makeup i would just say
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there's like a lot of guys like i've come across that find me attractive just like despite that
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so yes it can be true like my like my roommate she wears makeup right um like her guy has like
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told her like oh you're beautiful either way you don't need it but like oh your makeup looks really
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good like he likes that uh so yeah i mean a man can still be attracted to a woman with makeup and
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then without makeup or just like he doesn't care about the fact she wears makeup it's like okay
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you like that cool a lot of guys there's not a i'm not denying that a man can remain attracted
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to a woman uh even without her makeup he could still even if he had never seen her with makeup
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he would have still found her attractive i guess that's not really what i'm getting at but you
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would agree well maybe you wouldn't that there is a component of well one i guess why would you wear
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it if it didn't have a palpable increase in your perceived attractiveness why would women if it
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didn't actually make women look better why the fuck would they wear it it does make them look
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better okay so they're that's not how they actually look though you'd agree with that
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they don't look like that naturally correct okay so it's deceptive to a degree
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is it i think to say deceptive means like you're like you're lying and you're not being honest
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and you're hiding something i could sit here and say i look different without makeup this is how i
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look with makeup this is how i look without makeup you're covering something up if you're covering
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something up you kind of are hiding it though so are you lying for wearing clothes because you're
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covering up your body like what's going on like no okay a trans person you are can i ask brian
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a question brian are you attracted to a woman who has hairy legs and hairy armpits because
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earlier you said that hair this is a false equivalent it's not because you said hair is
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natural and your beard is natural and so it doesn't change anything well armpit hair is
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natural to women and so is hairy legs yeah grooming and grooming and so grooming is
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Yeah, grooming is different than an artificial application of paint, essentially.
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Yeah, I do prefer women who are shaved, who don't have hairy armpits, who don't have hairy legs.
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And just generally, I think, I mean, I would state that men generally prefer women who have less hair than more hair.
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My argument, yeah, but that's, it's a false equivalent, so my argument is not about making alterations.
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My argument specifically relates to the implementation of makeup.
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Robert Tanner, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships, man.
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Yeah, so, sorry, could you repeat your question?
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Just, do you find women with natural armpit hair and hairy legs?
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No, I prefer women who shave their legs and who groom and who don't have armpit hair.
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Well, hold on, but these two things, I don't think these two positions are contradictory.
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So you can have an objection, or maybe not an objection, but you can have a preference towards body hair grooming,
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but also find an objection to makeup usage or excessive makeup usage.
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I would also argue that when it comes to the makeup industry,
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Straight men are not interested in the makeup industry whatsoever,
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so it's natural that they're not going to appreciate that in a dating context.
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They would rather have the more honest, raw-looking you
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because that's what they're interested in knowing
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unless they have ulterior motives for you, then they don't care.
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And I prefer most of the time that I wear makeup.
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Also, I wanted to ask, if a 5 out of 10 wears makeup, is she still truly a 5 out of 10?
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I think makeup can also make you look not good.
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Well, I wanted to ask her, if a 5 out of 10 woman wears makeup, is she still truly a 5 out of 10?
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Like, okay, so is she a 5 out of 10 without makeup?
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No, but like if she wears makeup, she's still truly a 5 out of 10, right?
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what are we talking about right now like what's the subject so you're saying a 5 out of 10 who
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wears makeup yeah they're still a 5 out of 10 but then a chick with the dick they're well if she
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wears makeup actually i would i'll take what i said back if she wears makeup then maybe it makes
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her look more attractive but is she still truly a 5 out of 10 like deep down inside i would just
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average the two ratings she might average the ratings but i mean like truly though we mean deep
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down inside we're talking about looks like okay okay okay okay beneath the makeup she's still a
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five out of ten right if we're talking naturally she's a five out of ten with the makeup she's
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like again when it comes to aesthetics i think like the like the way i would rate aesthetics
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has to also do with like how you choose to present yourself and like how you choose to dress like how
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you choose to style yourself carry yourself all that and that's not personality okay i think you
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got to be crazy good at makeup to truly alter your appearance there's a lot of people except for
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except for like skin clarity like with just the general foundation that that's like the only thing
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you can really change without being crazy good at makeup i mean even contouring you can tell
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their face shape if you just look at them it's only like by the glance of the eye like
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a quick second that it alters your appearance truly so even if you're aware that a woman's
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wearing makeup it's still like the impact it has is to some degree on like your first knee-jerk
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impression reaction uh it is still going to have like this sort of subconscious uh impact on your
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level of attraction to them so like even if you're aware like it's still so like i'm trying to think
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whether it's positive or negative but so if a guy's wearing a really good toupee is that
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manipulative what if a guy's wearing a really good toupee huh that's manipulative yeah uh so
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i mean and he once had hair and then he fully balded and he got a really really good that looks
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I would say, so, I mean, he's, I think a lot of women would prefer a man who had a natural full head of hair than a man who wore a toupee.
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But if women wear makeup and they truly do not care if another woman's wearing makeup, why would they care if a guy wore a toupee?
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I can almost guarantee you that women who regularly employ makeup usage would, many of them would probably have some,
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I don't know if it would be an outright objection
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So then you're also implying that makeup isn't a part of social grooming
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If a man has a toupee and it's discovered he has a toupee
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You would fundamentally as a woman start to question his entire integrity
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Same thing if he were to do other modifications
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But in my example we fully know just like we fully know that you're wearing makeup
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when it comes we lay out your position again sorry we know that we're aware that you're
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wearing makeup you know you've told us we're wearing makeup we've seen you without wearing
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makeup we've seen you without the toupee so we are fully aware we're both the grown adults we
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know everything that's going on i mean that would be a compromising of standards at that point where
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it's just kind of like yeah i'm cool with this but a lot of people on average would not be cool
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dating a guy wearing the toupee it's just me yeah i mean correct yes but we're talking about like
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generalizations we're talking about the average i personally would not be okay with a guy with a
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toupee i'd rather he'd be bald because it's i agree go bald yeah the wig is a little creepy
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everyone looks better there's some bald daddies out there what's that one the norland it's like
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that balding pattern yeah no i do have if you're balding just get rid of all the hair you just let
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it go whatever makes you happy what about this so let's say that if he wants to let's say that
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makeup exists on a spectrum on a scale of course you'll have women who have like they put a bit
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of eyeliner on and that's it pretty minimal a bit of mascara on that's it then like you can go a
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little further all the way to like they're fucking putting clay on their face and they're full glam
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that's a bit further down on the scale uh but what about this i could see in the future that with
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some like advanced technology like nano robots or something this could be this could be employed for
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both men and women um what if there's some like futuristic micro nano robots and like millions or
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hundreds of thousands of robots that could maneuver on your face and that you could like
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customize in an app and it would cover your face and it would you could essentially have them fit
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over your face and it could slightly change your appearance maybe you have a bit of a weak jaw
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improves it there, or it could even basically completely change your face or keep some elements
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of your face, but like improve the flaws, maybe your nose, maybe your, you know, whatever it is
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to make you more attractive. You know, like the Las Vegas sphere, I guess, kind of like that.
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Let's say it could change a man's face to go from a five to a nine. Would any of you have an issue
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with that yeah do you think it would be deceptive i think the scale of change is way above makeup in
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your yeah but i i think that so but you it's not very are you willing to grant that makeup exists
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on a scale of deception a scale of change again i still wouldn't use the word deception but so
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okay what would actually but if it's the case so what you're putting on your face it's it's atoms
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it's particles uh you're putting them on your face uh to to change sometimes the shape the
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contouring uh change certain features what would be different between actual just like putting
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paint on your face and nano robot hold on nano robots that could assemble on your face and give
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you like stronger jawline and maybe you're not like a completely different person but it it
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substantially increases your attractiveness how could you actually object to it right so you said
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this changes someone from like a five to a nine like it changes your makeup the whole shape of
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your job again like someone said earlier if you still look at someone's jaw with contour on you
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can see the face of their shape and i don't believe makeup is bringing anyone from a five
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to a nine so i think makeup can bring a five to a seven five to an eight maybe a nine is a bit of
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a stretch but makeup can definitely have makeup can have this impact your draw to the woman would
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either not be nearly as strong if you saw her bare-faced or you might not even be attracted to
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her period to introduce a feminist argument it's like why exactly would you be supporting an
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industry that sells insecurities to women to profit off of those insecurities and sell them
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cosmetics why are you contouring your face you don't have the right bone structure why are you
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like shaping your eyes because it's fun it's just enjoyable it's not that deep it's fun to like
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do it are we not reaching that we then have to cover it up sometimes it's just like oh i just
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feel like better like i feel like i actually don't wear i want to feel better why do you feel
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enhanced well if it's fun it's always that things are fun why exactly are you changing your appearance
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I mean that's fun that's fun that's creative well when it comes to making it look natural and that's
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fun too but when it comes to like actually making it look natural there's insecurities there that
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we're trying to hide hence why people get fake eyelashes they think that their eyelashes aren't
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long enough why are you spending so much money because women spend like hundreds of dollars a
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month on average on makeup why are you spending so much money to cover up insecurities why can't
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you embrace your natural face Brian is more of a feminist and a woman lover than a lot of the
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women's on this panel are you a feminist i'm on i'm a feminist on the labia issue i guess
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a girl can like completely love her natural face and go out with her natural face and the next day
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choose to put on makeup and still like that sounds like really manipulative language why would you
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change something that you love can i changing a man that you love that's like moving to another
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house because you want to move that doesn't make any sense you can change lots of things that you
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I did not get an answer on my nanorobot face morph thing.
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So would, do you guys think that that would be deceptive going around the table?
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It's different than makeup, but it's achieving the same.
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But so, okay, I mean, sure, plastic surgery is a different component of this, but women also regularly employ the usage of plastic surgery to make them more attractive than they otherwise naturally are.
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And maybe there's some women here who have, show of hands, who has lip filler.
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Well, yeah, but I mean, maybe you've had, anyone had Botox?
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botox but anyone have fake titties fake titties so it's like maybe as maybe i don't know i think
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it's not fake yeah i just trimmed it i think you know like what would actually be wrong with a guy
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buying some nano robots just say makeup at that point like you know like male makeup exists for
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like male models or whatever like an actor what straight man wants to do that's your prerogative
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why would a man want to alter their appearance wait wait here can you not put your arms on the
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table because you're kind of blocking her out a little bit i just don't understand why a straight
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man would want to alter their appearance or get plastic surgery like i feel like that's like
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maybe a gay man thing or a actor type of thing you're like a reason to be on television you know
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well you raise two two very good points so uh as far as makeup goes it's not socially acceptable
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for straight men right to wear makeup unless you're an actor yeah maybe very very like liberal
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or like alt-punk women might be okay with it but i'd say for 90 of women it's it's not going to be
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acceptable no like for their even even liberal i mean we could go around the table like is it
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your how would how do we frame it like is it your preference to would you be attracted to a guy who
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wears makeup no no no no okay no anybody any yeses but and then your point on plastic surgery
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i would argue that uh men getting plastic surgery in a similar vein is uh in terms of assessments
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from women uh while i think a lot i personally don't like plastic surgery in women um i think
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it is generally more socially acceptable for women to get plastic surgery the procedures that are
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available to them are more socially acceptable there really isn't much uh that men can do
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plastic surgery wise that uh i mean there's some face stuff but i don't know so do you think that's
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the real issue it's the fact that men can't do it and it's not socially well so i would i i mean
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i'm against plastic surgery period so i mean my my prescription here is not oh we should make it
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socially acceptable for men to get plastic surgery we should just well it's not jealousy
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We should just be against plastic surgery across the board for both men and women.
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So we should be against plastic surgery and makeup.
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I personally think it looks weird no matter which way you do it because plastic surgery was originally made for war victims.
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Can you tilt your mic so it's like pointing towards you?
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I was saying I think no matter which way you do plastic surgery, it looks weird and unnatural.
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Like even if you weren't that attractive and then you wanted to fix something about your face, I feel like it almost makes a person look worse.
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like it was originally made for war victims like why are we doing this to ourselves
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it just doesn't make clear it doesn't make sense to me yeah i mean just to be clear on the plastic
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surgery thing of course uh people who have actual you know either injuries or deformities
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uh i i do make some exemptions for plastic surgery where they are more uh they're not purely for
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uh vain cosmetic reasons they're like either correcting something or you know you have like
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half her face was fucking blown off with a fucking i don't know grenade or some shit but yeah you are
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the origination of plastic surgery was to correct like men who were in world war one like if women
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have breast cancer then maybe i would want to like yeah sure i think i'm okay i think i'm okay with
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what about the question of vanity like why exactly are women normalizing plastic surgery for vanity
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makeup for vanity if it's not socially acceptable for men why is i never thought any of this was
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normal and i think the kardashians made it mainstream yeah as a heavy makeup uh where can
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i jump in on this really quick i'd actually be okay with banning the nano tech the plastic
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surgery and the makeup and all cosmetics because then it levels the playing field and then i'd be
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totally cool i'll give it all up well that's the thing you two wear makeup to attract the type that
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you guys are like personality genre like wise attracted to other women wear makeup so as to
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appeal to men that they want to like be attracted to it all comes down to male attraction that's
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what makeup is rooted is it does eventually become like like i enjoy doing it it can be soothing
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actually for me to put it on but at the very root of like why makeup is a thing it's because of you
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know wanting to be attractive to men we need to go to the root of this it's something that makes
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you if you we all admit that plastic surgery makes you look worse and that there's an effect
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that makeup at its obvious points can make you look worse and you could probably look better
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without it then it's not for male attraction it's legitimately i can see where it started off yeah
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and that's that men find women attractive like the reason why it's so important for men to find
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women physically attractive is because it shows that the woman is healthy because they have a
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higher chance of carrying a successful pregnancy when it comes to eyebrows for example if you have
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really really thin eyebrows there's a higher likelihood that you were deprived nutrients as
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a child if you have thicker eyebrows it shows that you were raised in a household that was able to
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properly give you food which shows that you probably come from a richer family which will
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probably lead to more prosperous children it's all about reproduction women don't care about looks
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because they care about a guy who can provide now sometimes that ties into looks because it's like
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oh he's a hunter gatherer he can kill a pig himself but like the reason why men care about
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a woman's look so much is because it shows that she's healthy so that's why makeup is deceptive
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deceptive because it shows that she has good genetics or maybe is more healthy than she is
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when she really isn't that healthy which goes well then why don't y'all just date women that
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don't wear makeup because you are so against it but i do friends wear makeup my girlfriend does
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not wear makeup that's you like pictures with women who have makeup like i'm not seeing the
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complete opposite when y'all say y'all don't like and when you did your ratings you rated women that
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wear makeup i would reverse engineer that argument the men who only like women that have plastic
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surgery and makeup are not typically men that women find attractive because they're seen as
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superficial dumb and easy to fool so it's kind of like we wouldn't be attracted to a man who wants
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us all dolled up looking like a sex doll so then why would we turn ourselves into something
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artificial can i say this too and i think maybe most of the table might agree with me society
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as a whole like half the table just told riley he'll be more attractive when he's older men
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get older and women are like wow he's more attractive like silver fox daddy whatever
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i feel like society has pressure on women we have one wrinkle and then we feel like we need to get
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some botox whatever because there's a big reason there's a big reason it's because women with
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wrinkles are infertile most likely that is why that is why men that is why men don't find that's
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not even accurate that's not true that is the actual reason why men that's not true either why
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men don't find women with wrinkles attractive or at least as attractive as a woman without
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it shows that they are of higher age which means that they're less fertile it's not baby soft it's
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because most men that makes well that's why we feel the pressure that's why we feel the pressure
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to look to make ourselves look a certain way men are it's more socially acceptable for men to look
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raggedy have gray hair it's cool because a man who's 55 can easily provide for a family once
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again i'm going to introduce a feminist argument i'm like what does that mean if we lived in a
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well-functioning society where youth was not marketable and capitalist prone or whatever
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women would age gracefully and be matrons within our society giving younger women good advice
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within marriages that they can then impart to make the society even better the only reason women now
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are feeling compelled to look younger is because that's the only value in women nowadays in this
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society but before there used to be a tremendous amount of value in women who are older guiding the
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younger generations hence the whole idea of a grandmother imparting her skills cooking sewing
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all of that jazz being strong being able to hold on the fort nowadays women's only value is the
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physical because we've stripped society away from any family values from any sense of traditional
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cultural whatever so it's like you're basically destroying your face not because you're trying
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to cater to men but it's because you don't have a man that makes you feel stable or grounded yet
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and that's a product of how dysfunctional our society is so we're wearing makeup because we
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into the into the mic into the mic do you wear makeup for your man at home i do sometimes yeah
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that's different you wear makeup for a different reason you do it for a cultural sort of like i
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worry because my husband likes it he likes me both ways nice nice can we also ask the question
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like i when i went all over europe i it was a very the women over there were very natural
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and and the men over the when i would run they're not fat when i would run and well i'm just saying
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they didn't wear makeup they didn't like I had pink toenails they didn't they didn't they weren't
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into doing the nails thing it was like also a very like I don't want to say just Americanized
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but it's a cultural thing they're a homogenous nation that basically has prioritized their
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heritage they know what a French woman looks like they know what an Italian woman looks like
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natural beauty bodies when it comes exactly when it comes to American women especially in the 20th
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century when their culture has been ripped from them for the sake of like the post-World War II
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boom all of our appearance post 1950s has been like commercial doll marketable like look like
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this look like that when before in the 1800s it was valued that you were a strong sturdy woman
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who wore no makeup who was going to be resourceful loving caring your character traits were what was
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emphasized because makeup wasn't a factor beauty vanity was not a value system in a society like
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that if you go to paris they don't really wear makeup you can have beauty and still have character
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traits though yes you can but it's like why would you hide your beauty behind the makeup though
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because oftentimes women are actually way more beautiful when they don't wear makeup because
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their natural features are shining even if they're older their natural features their their life or
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whatever is imprinted on their face to you to everyone you oh my god everyone yeah you what
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to you to you because you judge women falsely to you because you judge women artificially you're
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I judge women based on a standard of their natural beauty.
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They are beautiful for their natural characteristics.
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But anyway, what I was going to say is makeup...
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No, no, no, we're not going to criticize looks.
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No, I was saying not enough nutrients as a kid.
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No, what I was going to say is I just personally think if makeup is applied correctly on every
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woman it does make it's supposed to enhance it's not supposed to take away so that's the purpose
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typically of makeup to enhance your features but what i'm arguing is why are you enhancing it you
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are naturally beautiful why not because it's number one the financial investment she's from
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utah yeah i'm actually from delaware i live in utah uh no i just because i like it so my eyebrows
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are looking more visible on camera than hers it's not gonna lie serious no one cares well at the end
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of the day when it started that she started that when it comes to a financial incentive once again
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there's an entire industry targeting women to give them insecurity since they're little girls
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to get makeup like that one elephant makeup pack that was being marketed to girls under 10 years
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old that's where it starts why exactly do you think women are basically blaming men for having
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high like beauty standards when in reality a guy would pretty much date a five without makeup with
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no problem it's women who are judging themselves too harshly and they're allowing actually gay men
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to dictate beauty standards for them including the woman is allowing that removal the everything
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do i have a zempic face no actually you're looking well your look actually looks like
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leonardo ray to me so it's oh thank you that's like brian can we do a shot or not a shot i need
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a shot yeah please brian the champagne with that i think you're doing into that taylor
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yeah robert tanner i don't know i just feel like if makeup was banned it just wouldn't bother me
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you're gorgeous yeah yeah stop stop stop so uh somebody here has pronouns or something who's
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that is that you are you the pronoun no absolutely okay i'll have to does anybody
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here have like well we all have pronouns but are you talking about incorrect pronouns don't worry
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about it don't worry about it um robert tanner needs to realize that a thousand dollar investment
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will get you buzzed but like a four thousand dollar investment would just get brian wasted
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like that's so much that's so much better i am a lightweight so much better i literally three sips
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i'm fucking four times the cost just a hundred times better but i i i kind of derailed a bit
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from your question so i got i brought it into makeup your question what is the purpose of the
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looks rating thing. Uh, okay. So, and did you get into your objections? No, I'm just genuinely
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curious. Like what, like, is it cause you're like, what is the purpose of looks rating in general or
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asking it on the, on the podcast? Yeah. Yeah. So I think that, so my position is, I think that,
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uh, not all women, but a good amount of them typically have a, uh, inaccurate self-assessment
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of their own physical attractiveness, and typically women tend to over-appraise their
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attractiveness, they tend to over-rate themselves, and whether they genuinely believe that or
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not, I suppose is up for debate, but I think it speaks to a bit of, there's ego, there's
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pride, there's hubris, that on its own, I find kind of unappealing, sort of like, it's
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not even like an attraction thing. I just, I genuinely, generally find hubris and pride kind
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of, kind of poor characteristics. I think modesty, humbleness, I think those sort of
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traits ought to be cultivated more than just excessive pride and that. But I think the
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big thing is, one of the reasons I ask it is, well, I don't know if it's necessarily
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reason I ask it, but I can tell you what the implication is for the dating landscape when
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you have not just the women who come on the show, but I would argue if you go out in public
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and ask women, how do you assess your attractiveness, there's a degree of delusion. I think a lot
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of women think they're more attractive than they actually are. And part of this is because
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since very young, you get the, what is it, the trophy? What is the thing with the participation
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trophy the you women are princesses and you're you're all amazing and you need to oh my god the
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world you deserve the world and it's like that's this very disney thing where all these women think
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that they're disney princesses but the reality is uh or they're kings or not kings excuse me
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women think they're queens and princesses realistically if we're going to use like um
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royalty i think most women at best are court jesters like you're not a queen you're not royalty
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you're you're a peasant i think you're falling you're all peasants i'm a peasant we're not we're
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not special snowflakes we're all fucking most people are just fucking average and so the reality
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is though i think a lot of women over appraise themselves they overrate themselves and so um
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how's that going to play out in the dating landscape if you think you are uh more attractive
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than you actually are you're going to start aiming for men outside of your league and then that's
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here's what's going to happen. Uh, there, well, there's a whole bunch of shit that's going to
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happen. One, the men who are actually on your level, you're settling for them. That's fucking,
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it's terrible for the men. It's terrible for you. Uh, so if a bunch of women find, like,
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for example, most women, uh, well, I'd say average looking women want to date above average men.
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And, uh, it's about 50, 50. I would argue you see a lot more men that are less attractive with like
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solid eight nine tens yeah well hold on wait but that's because women are really generous
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with their their uh assessment and ratings of their own and other women's uh attractiveness
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and really harsh judges uh really harsh judges of men's attractiveness so this idea that like
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i'll grant to you that sometimes you'll see by the way it goes both ways you'll see like a really
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hot girl with like a you know she mogs him she's better looking than him you also see the reverse
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too um however i do think it's the case that if women rate other women higher and are harsh with
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their ratings towards men then like this you saying that well i see really good looking women
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with like ugly men i mean okay that's just because you're you're no that's because i'm saying i think
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we come back to more character like that's what i was trying to say earlier okay i also think
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insecure women tend to date down than data okay but so my i guess my my point is is that women
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are going to be chasing after a caliber of man, if they genuinely believe, okay, I'm this, I'm
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this attractive, they're going to be chasing after a caliber of man that might give them sex, but
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isn't going to give them a relationship, marriage, a ring, etc. Because there's a difference that
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occurs when it comes to dating. I think for not all men, right? Not all men. But I think men,
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men will sleep with a woman that he would never just on her looks alone men will sleep with a
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woman that he would never be in a relationship with he's just using her for sex but he's like
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he'll go down he'll date down essentially sleep down and so because this is a phenomenon you can
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have a woman who's a five a six or a seven she can go fuck like a guy who's more attractive than
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she can she can go sleep with him and like a woman you just got to be pleasant and offer sex
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that's it and when i say pleasant it's just like don't be a fucking psycho crazy bitch
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just be like pleasant excuse me sir want some pussy i mean not literally but like that's all
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it takes for you as women not all not all like hyper attractive men are going to bite on that
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but like on tinder on dating apps you see the attention go to the top 10 of men on the dating
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apps. Meanwhile, like the rest are fighting over scraps and pretty much just like completely zeroed
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out. And so let me, let me just finish. And so if women are not realistic about their own
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attractiveness, they're going to, uh, reject men who are actually their league, their equivalent,
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and they're going to be, uh, sleeping with pursuing attempting to date, uh, really attractive
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men. Now this doesn't play out for all women. Uh, but that's, I would say that's pretty much
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one, like the, the big issues that I see. And then, um, then as a woman, once you've had a
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taste of like a really attractive guy, you can't go back. Like there's no going back. And if you
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do, you're going to feel resentful. Like you're going to, you're going to have resentment for
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your, your looks league. You're going to, well, not even your, your looks league. You're going
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have resentment for your league like you're yeah you're gonna have resentment and uh that that's
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why these women they they fuck around in their 20s they get married at 30 and then like they
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get married to joe schmo because he's the only guy who will give her commitment meanwhile she
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spent her fucking 20s uh chasing after hot dudes and just getting ran through by fucking chad
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and then she's the dick was better he was more attractive he was more psychologically and
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sexually stimulating because more attractive. And then you're going to maybe pump out one or two
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kids, and then I'm bored, I'm bored, I'm bored. He doesn't stimulate me. He's not attractive.
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You're going to divorce him within a couple of years. You're going to break up the entire family
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when that's actually your looks leak. I would reverse engineer the argument and say that,
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except for the cases of girls who are very insecure, so they're not really,
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they're dysfunctional to the mainstream society, and girls who rebel against the norms, which I
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take that you are, typically women are in the red pill sphere hypergamous. So women usually will
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focus on a man's social status way more than his physical attributes which is what i was gonna say
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yeah i feel like you're putting it all on attraction when i'm like for me yeah it's part
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of it how is he as a dad how is he successful is he driven like there's more than just i don't
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think for yeah what if the woman i really don't care about looks to be honest i don't either i
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don't care about looks are fucking i care about looks no chemistry and attraction but there are
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other things that will add to that yeah but that's not my my argument isn't women only care
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about looks no no i know i wouldn't care about looks and then like a fuck ton of other things
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too as and you will figure them out i totally agree men don't care men should care about other
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things women don't care about looks as much that's exactly yeah exactly i think we are way
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less superficial i do i kind of disagree with this i actually think women are more superficial
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Now, I do think it is the case that, for example, men can make up for their lack of looks through other means.
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So, like, if he's really confident or he's really funny or if he has status or if he's a professional athlete or he's bringing his personality, whatever.
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but like very few men actually reach like those high levels where like they will overcome their
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deficit in their looks like very few like how many men are like that level of funny how many men how
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many men are that rich how many men are that famous how many men have that amount of status
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how many men are hyper successful like i could i give you an example real quick look i'll just
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finish my point but absolutely um so i think for example in terms of my position that i think women
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uh, care more about looks. I think that of the things that when it comes to looks women care
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about, uh, those tend to be things that are completely outside the man's control. So height
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hair, which look, uh, if a guy's balding, he can't like, please don't let me go. But like,
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he can't really control that. Uh, obviously there's intervention. Like he could do, uh,
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there there's drugs. He could get hair transplants, but absent, uh, intervention to that degree,
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if a guy's balding like can't really control it um height penis size men can't control this thing
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that men cannot control these things and these are things physical traits that women care about
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whereas uh you know whereas like for men like yeah men like big boobs you can't as a woman you
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can't really control that men like big butts nice butt which you can you can get through working out
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I would argue it matters for talking about the average.
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I would also argue that when it comes to looks, everyone cares about looks because if you're attracted to someone, that's the baseline of you initiating a relationship with them.
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But when it comes to women, if a man is not attractive to them, they'll be nice to them at first.
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But if he insists, it starts to feel dangerous when he's unattractive.
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So women really, I think, actually do value looks more than men only because if a man is unattractive and insists, you're scared of him.
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Meanwhile, if a woman is unattractive and she insists with a man, as Brian said, they might just end up using them for sex.
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No, you have women all the time that are like, I was not even attracted to this guy from the beginning.
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I think that you can genuinely not be attracted to a dude and then get to know him and become attracted.
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Very rarely do you find a guy dating a girl saying, I was not attracted to her and I'm with her.
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I do think there's a baseline level of, I kind of agree with you, but I do think there's, like, a baseline, like, level of physical, like, a threshold of physical attractiveness that they have to get over.
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But then I do agree that, like, if you like the guy's personality, you tend to find him more physically attractive the more you get to know him.
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Well, also, in my 600-pound life, as it was brought up, there's a lot of men who will only date what they can get.
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And it's not a matter of, oh, they found her attractive.
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You're saying that as a woman you have to be insecure and as a woman you don't have to be insecure.
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When you're insecure, you'll date someone you're not necessarily attracted to.
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Being married before, I'm like, I absolutely need attraction, but that is not the forefront.
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There are so many other things in my life that are more important than just being like, this is the sexiest man alive.
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But by that logic, you're basically saying, I didn't find you physically attractive, I only married you for X, Y, and Z.
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But you also have to factor in that I think the majority of our relationships are now starting online.
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It's a massive way in which people are meeting.
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And, I mean, you're going to have to afford the – like, we've done this experiment.
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I mean, we could even do it tonight, although because I've preempted my point here, I feel like you guys would adjust your answers.
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We've gone around the table, pulled up Bumble, and just had girls like, yes or no, would you go on a date with this guy?
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and just on the looks alone women will reject like 90 of the men that they're presented with
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and it's like so it's like okay well the experience on the dating app is well it's almost exclusively
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looks and then yeah of course like if the guy's a piece of shit maybe maybe you still fuck him but
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uh the looks have to come first and so but i'm not saying that there's other things like you
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can bolster your as a man you can bolster yourself another by the way i think women
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can also also bolster themselves through their personality okay you're an average looking girl
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are you pleasant are you not a fucking are you not a hoe um do you fuck do you cook do you clean
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do you do things for him do you make yourself helpful to him are you submissive um do you have
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good values etc etc you can make yourself more appealing to men but i mean i would argue that
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when it comes to to to women this idea that women don't care about looks uh or it's kind of like a
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minimal concern for women completely ridiculous no no brian i have an argument i just think it's
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not like as harsh as to most men probably are but i mean wait brian i wanted to bring up my
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argument here so basically you're familiar with alex stein right yeah of course yeah what would
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you rate alex stein uh alex stein um well he's a tall guy he's like six four or something yeah so
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But looks-wise, honestly, very average face, maybe below average.
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Okay, so at AmFest, when I was with him, he was just getting surrounded by women that all obviously wanted him.
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So that's why it's like, sure, it might not matter.
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Well, so to be fair, though, Alex Stein has some, you were at, where is it, CPAC?
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He has some status within the conservative circle.
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Women were just, these conservative women just throwing their panties.
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I mean, essentially, yeah, it was getting close to it.
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I would argue against the dating app theory only because Tinder, Bumble,
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all of these apps were designed after Grindr, a gay dating app.
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Women don't function the same way gay men do.
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We're not going to date someone that we don't know because it's just not safe.
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So the only women who are going out on the majority of these apps are women who are unstable and reckless.
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I think, like, I actually know several couples who are married that met on dating apps.
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True, but for 90%, that's anecdotal, but for a 90% rejection rate, I think there's an element of safety where you just don't want to go out with a random guy.
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If you nail someone who's, like, gorgeous, sure.
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Hold on, but everyone's a stranger before, like.
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But if you meet organically, that's different in a safe, controlled environment.
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But if you're meeting online, that's different.
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I think it's safer to vet men because I've found, you know, but how would you vet men from an internet experience?
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Like, stranger danger was an application we were raised with.
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How is that not applicable to a romantic sexual situation?
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Yeah, I think, I mean, the safety of dating apps, I mean, there are precautions that a woman can take prior to meeting up with a man
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I mean, obviously, you meet in the public place.
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You have a phone call, a FaceTime call beforehand.
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It's a gay dating app modeled for heterosexual dynamics
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would not work effectively for the same intentions
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It's a hookup app just to have sex with whoever.
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Gay men, obviously, have that for their culture.
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with Tinder and all of this jazz, if it's a dating app, it's not going to have the same
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efficacy. I want to go back to, I guess, your point, which is why do we ask this question?
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Why does it matter? From what I see in the dating landscape, and look, just to be clear, I think
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men can be delusional too. There's definitely men out there who think they're more attractive than
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they otherwise are, whether it's related to their looks or something else. They're delusional. They
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have a big ego. They have pride. But I think there's a difference. I think if a man is like,
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i'm a 10 i'm the shit and then he goes and like say he could be pleasant and say he makes himself
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sexually available to women uh even women in his league um but let's say like he he's shooting
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outside of his league or whatever uh men are gonna men face rejection on the front end women
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will face a different sort of rejection typically on the back end um so as a man if i go up to a
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girl and say she's out of my league like say she look i'm i'm fucking 36 i'm pasty um i'm chubby
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right now poor skin clarity fucking big note like bro i could list like my my deficits and i stepped
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to a fucking i don't know 25 year old supermodel gen not like the calvin klein like fat woke
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supermodel like models like a genuine supermodel like i'm getting rejected like it i'm getting
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rejected. Men will face that on the front end, but I could be pleasant and I could make myself
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available, let's say. If I step outside my league, I'm really, look, sometimes you get lucky,
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right? Maybe. But generally speaking, if you step outside your league as a man, you're going to get
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rejected. I'm not getting a date. I'm not getting a number. I'm not going to get a kiss. I'm not
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going to get sex not going to get a relationship i get nothing now as a woman as a woman if you
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shoot your shot with a guy outside of your league and you're pleasant and you make yourself available
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to him if you understand what i'm saying i'm not saying you have to be like hey wanna fuck
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but if you're approaching a guy and you're making yourself available to him he's gonna
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look and say, well, she's pleasant. I can fuck. I'll fuck her. Once, twice, three times. Maybe
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he'll keep you around friends with benefits. That's why women get in situationships. You're
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not attractive enough for that guy to want to lock down. And to be fair, sometimes a guy's not
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in the place where he even wants a relationship, even if it is with a girl who's in his league. But
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you make yourself uh available and pleasant and you offer up pussy
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even if that guy is not okay even if that guy looks at you and he's like on her looks alone
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i would never be in a relationship with her he'll fuck like he'll fuck you he'll use you for sex i'm
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not saying it's right but he'll do it whereas like i think for women in order for a woman to
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have sex with a man, that man has to be at least attractive enough that she would be in a
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relationship with him. So I'll say that again. In order for a woman to have sex with a man,
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he needs to be at least attractive enough, some level of baseline, that she would be in a
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relationship with that guy. For men, it's like the inverse. And actually, it's inverse in a
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night stand it's almost the total opposite when a man's just looking for casual sex one night stand
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like yeah maybe he'll like ideally it's better to have it with the hottest girl you can get
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but he will go down to get the one night stand when a woman's willing to have a one night stand
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or a casual sexual encounter the guy it's not like i need to get laid out just like i'll get
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it with like an unattractive guy um no actually women will break their rule for casual sex the
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guy actually has to be more attractive he has to be really hot if she isn't otherwise uh if a woman
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isn't otherwise interested in casual sex if the guy's like really fucking hot she'll go she'll
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break her rule in that direction i think you're completely right you think i'm right you're like
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a girl like i'm looking for a relationship but he's so fucking hot i guess i'll fuck like women
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will break their rule that way whereas like so so i think there's a difference here so because and
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A man will sleep with a woman, and just on her looks alone, he would never be in a relationship with her.
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He's already categorized her as, like, sex only.
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It's kind of because men are just, like, more down bad and, like, more willing to...
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So, like, the rule behind it is when a woman would have sex with a man, for the entirety of the, like, reproductive lifespan, you could say, she has to be pregnant for nine months in order to reproduce.
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Yeah, so a woman has to be pregnant for nine months, and then have to take care of the kid.
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Yeah, and then the man, for him to successfully reproduce takes him like 5, 10, 15 minutes.
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I know, I'm making the point for people who don't know that, okay?
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So, I mean, yeah, that's basically what comes down to it.
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Women are picky because they're like, should I risk having a child with this man?
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While men are kind of just like, stick your dick in anything that has a hole, including Gorlock.
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Would you agree that vagina rules the world?
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done uh no maybe persuades you could say well by by that logic especially the ones especially the
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big labias like brian by that logic you would have to say that casual sex is a currency that
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women have and it's not it's oppressive to women it distorts their soul it just makes them
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dysfunctional so it's it's not that vagina rules the world it's that if a man does do that to you
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it leaves you wounded and for him it leaves him addicted to sex it makes him a beast you're right
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yeah it's true i don't know did anything that i say say there did did any of that make sense to
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any of the women like does that map onto reality for any of you yeah you know i don't know but i
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also think the amount of lust that men can have due to that sometimes can be a problem yeah really
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quick um you have pronouns right yeah don't you have pronouns in your instagram bio probably but
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what are they like fay them or something oh yeah i thought they sounded cool oh those aren't your
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actual pronouns okay so anyways back to this just really quick finishing off my my point here and i
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think there's a couple things like why the looks rating matters um so i think also because of this
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because women can sleep with men say that are outside their league like for example drake
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he'll just fuck some like good-looking instagram chick who is like socioeconomically completely
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below him i mean he's probably like selecting for a good look so maybe like she's better looking
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than him but you'll have like famous men who will date these women so you have like average women
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who can have access to men who are more attractive than them granted these men are just using them
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for sex but it's like be pleasant and you're an average looking woman make yourself sexually
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available like you can fuck men who would never commit to you but who are like attractive
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um and you see this happening on dating apps like a guy might just be like on a fucking friday some
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like really attractive dude who's on a dating app oh here's some like chubby average looking chick
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okay i'll fuck her like well you might object to it but like this is a phenomenon that happens
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and then that chubby average looking chick is like oh i fucked a dude who's like a nine
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or an eight i therefore i must be an eight too and then they look at the guys who are like
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chubby average looking dudes and they're like i can do better but it's like no the guy just wants
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to use you for sex you got and if you want a relationship you're not going to get the hot dude
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and you're a chubby average looking chick you're not going to get the hot dude uh go match up with
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the chubby average look like dude so it's like i think it would it would benefit the dating sphere
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more if men were slightly more intentional about who they had sex with i'm fine i'm totally fine
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with that yeah i'm totally fine with that we're also discussing people who are ultimately empty
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I mean, there's been the subject, as Hannah has brought up multiple times, of character where, yes, looks are important to get your foot into the door.
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But ultimately, average people are usually in long-term committed relationships with other average people.
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It's typically the extremes that are really ugly, like the polyamorous people where it's just like a cesspit or really successful and gold diggers are going after them.
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But averages, so not blackpill, the majority of people are averages.
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They're dating pretty much within their own field.
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uh yes for getting uh relationships but if i would argue that like for example i think average
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looking men don't have sexual access to women who are better looking than them uh who are outside
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their league but average looking women definitely have limited sexual access to men who are outside
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of their league now whether they act on it or not is different i'm not saying all women do this
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I argue all women have the capacity to do it furthermore I would argue this
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I think that as a man if I have sex with a woman I have a high confidence level
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I can get that woman into a relationship I don't think women can be quite as confident as
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like for example let me ask just because you can sleep with a guy how confident are you
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in all instances that you can get him into a relationship it's harder I feel like you guys
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would be not quite as confident but i'm very confident if i can sleep with a woman it's not
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a hundred percent but i'm very confident i can get her into a relationship you're using the wrong
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value systems it's like saying oh well you know women can sleep with whoever they want sexual
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access to a woman is not a value metric it's a relationship as you pointed out and a relationship
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access is not really a value metric to a man who doesn't want to date someone who he just has
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interest in having sex with you're putting a value metric that men have onto women saying oh you can
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sleep with whoever you want women don't like that as riley already pointed out we're not really
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someone continue continue mexico came to us i'm in heaven yeah um women are not interested in
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having sex with just a random high status man they're trying to secure him and bait him with
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sex into a relationship whoa wait wait wait hold on i gotta push back on this do you think
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and get her all of this stuff or is he trying to get sex
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does he want to be cuddling holding hands giving her flowers
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likewise if a woman is having sex with a high status
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man is she doing it because she really wants to have sex
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with him or is it because she's trying to get a relationship
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that women are uh disinterested in sex and their own sexual pleasure and they're using sex
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as a form of leverage to secure men into long-term relationships if women were interested in sex why
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do you have an abundance of women saying they don't enjoy it and that men don't give them
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pleasure and that they're i think it's completely hold on i think it's completely first off women
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are the ones who have fucking multiple orgasms i would argue i would actually argue i argue that
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Actually most women don't orgasm during sex
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in an unstable and reckless situation but for the majority of women our headspace has to be
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a place of stability and trust to do that look i i don't dispute that yes men like in in a given
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sexual encounter men are more likely to be the ones to climax like there's no dispute there
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but to be clear i think like in a relationship um i think like i mean it depends on the women
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some women have like difficulty climaxing but like most women definitely hold on i don't know
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Like, maybe I've just been, like, when I roll the dice, I've been lucky or whatever.
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You should never fake, hold on, you should never fake an orgasm because it just sets you up.
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Like, for, you got to be, oh, men are bad communicators.
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Can we go around the table and ask every woman who's faked an orgasm at least once?
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Sometimes you're just enjoying yourself, and they think that you did, and you're like...
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Like, you know, he thinks, like, he's really putting in work, so I really want him to do
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And we're going to be here for six hours, and I don't...
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because they're desensitized from their vibrators.
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Like, we all know that's the actual truth of it.
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their levels of sexual satisfaction and orgasm
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I do no understand why your guests are disagreeing.
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Gigi William I noticed most ladies suggested
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Sex is supposed to be a bonding thing that unites two souls.
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With men, I honestly feel like their emotions are in their private parts.
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If they hate you, they have violating fantasies about you.
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And if they're annoyed by you, they just F you.
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It's all a metric of how they're emotionally feeling towards you.
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When it comes to women, just having that physical intimacy is good enough, where it's just like bonding you to this guy.
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The climax itself is like a cherry on top, but it's more so just being able to have that intimacy with him that's more important.
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That's why foreplay is important for women not to climax, but just to have that affection and attention.
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So that's why I'm like, we're arguing oranges and tomatoes.
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We're equalizing men and women when they're not the same.
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I mean, the only thing that really matters is men climaxing, because that's what leads to a reproduction.
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yeah yeah yeah a guy lying about why is that the only way how does that yes our pleasure not
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important when it comes to reproduction the male orgasm is the only thing necessary for
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how would a man fake an orgasm well they can't get an orgasm if we're dry so you better start
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making us wet so maybe it's important i've actually like witnessed my ex actually lie
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about nutting like straight up fucking lie about nutting and you know he'll like he'll do like the
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did you also witness a lot of sperm like all that extra shit right and i know he didn't know you
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don't have to look but like he will lie and say that he nutted yeah just to try to make me feel
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better but like i know you didn't know i'm like so men also lie about nutting the same way that
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women lie about nutting because we want to make each other or sometimes they're like i can guarantee
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I'm not saying I don't fake it, but at the time I don't even have it.
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Okay, so you didn't believe them, though, right?
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Because there's something physical that happens, not just mental, right?
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So why do you say that men ejaculating is the only most important thing that women claim it's in?
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When a mommy and a daddy love each other very much
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Like, from a Christian standpoint, it is a representation of, you know, basically your spiritual, you know, the church in Christ.
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But, like, as far as what the organs and all of that system is made for, it is ultimately made for reproduction.
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Yeah, the entire reason all of you guys want to have sex is for reproduction.
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Except the majority of the guys that are sleeping with women that they don't find attractive are not trying to get them pregnant.
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But the biological drive that's underpinning that, it's not that they're consciously thinking.
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It's the base animal urge driving the behavior, not conscious thought.
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That's why Christianity is important because with morality, it restricts man's promiscuity.
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Without it, he turns into an animal, and animals in the animal kingdom will have sex with whatever movie.
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Christianity is uniquely beneficial for women because it actually, instead of giving men a pass for monogamy,
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it was like, no, you both will be chaste and only be with one another.
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And so it was actually, in my opinion, very liberating for women because women were also considered equal in value
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in a culture that didn't necessarily believe that.
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they're not the same but they're equal like in the same way four quarters is equal to is equal
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to a dollar spirit not the same spiritually equal spiritually equal because i i do think there's a
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distinction in like how you know mentally but don't you think that it's important like as a
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couple to become close and we obviously have uh clitorises for a reason so that we can also
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experience well it's to incentivize it's to incentivize reproduction okay but i would also
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I was going to say, for women, once again, it's rare for it to be bonding when you get pleasure.
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Like, affection for a woman, which is why the romance industry is so dominant.
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For a woman, it's how do you give me attention?
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If you want to pass them down, I will refill those.
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Romance for a woman, the industry itself, that's the reason it caters to us so much is because we want to feel in love.
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No little girl is going, you know, whatever.
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they're playing house they're playing the romance thing whatever when life gives you the punches
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you just kind of go okay i gotta be rugged about it the the big romance industry has been incredibly
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detrimental to relationships it's like porn it is and like i'm sorry but books like 50 shades of
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gray and stuff like that it's just porn for women yeah it's just that because of yeah because the
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way prejudice but that's a whole men are attracted to looks while women are attracted to words and
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Because in, you know, erotica, you have all the many pages detailing the relationship building, the context building, the romance.
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And so women tend to find that, obviously, more, you know, attractive.
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But, like, the whole, like, romance novel, the romance movies, it sells this, like, horribly inaccurate idea of what relationships really are.
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of why women were not allowed to be authors
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When it comes to what you were saying, it's true, but I would propose
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usually they're not going to care because they're just going to take it
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at face value, but if you're not having sex with him,
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he's going to feel like you don't actually care about him.
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which so it's a different metric and i would argue that uh really really quick here did everybody
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get their champagne no wait i was just gonna say i think more women should care about their sexual
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pleasure hold on i think so i'm just gonna say that uh cheers to robert tanner salu thank you robert
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i want to call brian a little bit of a feminist yes and that is because can i say why giving women
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This right here is the toxic feminism that's ruining, that has ruined men, is what I want to say.
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When you started off with men, women want to put themselves on a pedestal, and women think that they're queens, la, la, la, la, la.
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In order for us to feel comfortable with men, most women, you have to feel comfortable.
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and I believe it's a man's duty to make a woman feel comfortable within herself um if I'm giving
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now don't judge me for my past okay I've obviously changed but if I'm giving my body I want to feel
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safe with said man and if you're treating me like I'm not like I'm just disposable and not the
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queen that you think that we're then I mean I just think that was a very feminist point of view to
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say well women shouldn't be treated like queens they put themselves on a pedestal it's a man's
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duty to make us feel comfortable if you want to lead in a relationship it's a man's duty to lead
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and lead by making us feel comfortable and say isn't that oh you're hey princess you're on a
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pedestal like it's your duty to make it if you want us to lean in and you want to lead the
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relationship with which i think men should hold on i'm all about that okay then you should have
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the plan so i can respond so this is a criticism correct not at all wait hold on what why is it
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criticism I your point is a bit incoherent but so you said Brian you're a feminist Brian
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no I didn't say that I said you sat you opened up with a kind of a feminist talking point
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okay I have a feminist talking point which are are you pro or anti-feminist anti okay so it's
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a criticism right if well I one of the questions before I came on here was what is something that
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you believe in that may be a little bit high topic or what i'm paraphrasing and my response was i
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think feminism is ruining society for both men and women not just women okay totally agree but what
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is my feminist point that we shouldn't be put on pedestals and made to feel like queens
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if you want a man to leave okay so you disagree wait wait so you disagree with the point i made
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about women thinking they're queens is that you just said women put themselves way too high on a
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pedestal. If you want to lead a relationship, then it's a man's duty to make a woman feel safe
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and secure. And if you're wandering around with the attitude of this woman just thinks she's
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something she's not, how are you going to lead that relationship? That's the perfect frame. Hold
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on. Wait, hold on. What? It's a bit incoherent, but I'll try to parse it. So, okay. I have an
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I guess that's cringe. Women who call themselves
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If we're taking care of the home, we're cooking,
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we're cleaning, we're taking care of your children, we carry
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your children and you don't want to treat us like a queen?
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So, okay, first we'd have to, what do we mean by duty?
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Like, I'm not suggesting men should, like, mistreat women.
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However, this idea, I need to treat a woman like a queen.
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I think women view it like she's the queen and I'm the fucking dancing.
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Go into the Discord and it's in the, it's in the memes.
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it's the like two up two or three up and there's a gif a jif a gif that's like a click on that
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uh i knew you're gonna yeah click on it click on it and then like click on the photo below it
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so i think this is what women mean when like like this is dating for men it's not i'm the king it's
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your fucking jester and like i have to perform for the woman who's the queen like this i reject
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So this idea I have a duty to treat a woman like a queen, what does that mean?
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For me, the definition of queen is just making her feel safe.
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We don't actually think this man needs to make me feel like a queen.
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And I think a woman should make her man feel the same way.
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I think most women wouldn't actually want a man to kind of like act subordinate to her.
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If a guy is over here saying, who do you think you are?
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Like, you're just here to make babies and that's it.
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Like, is that going to make a woman want to be in relationship?
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I'm sorry. It's so hard to parse this because it's like all over the place.
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You want women to be submissive, but then you think that women shouldn't be put on a pedestal.
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Yeah, women should not be put on a pedestal.
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I think you can be submissive when you feel safe.
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Wait, most women want the submissive dynamic as well.
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No, it's actually the feminists, the male feminists, the male feminists are the ones who pedestalize women.
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It's the soy boy, the liberal men who pedestalize women.
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I don't, yeah, I don't actually think that at all.
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So there's a bit of a nuance here insofar as, like, in some ways, you'll see from both a feminist perspective, but also almost a conservative perspective, a pedestalization of women, which I personally object to.
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So I don't believe that women should be pedestalized.
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Now, of course, you should treat your girlfriend or wife, you should treat her well.
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you should uh take care of her you should uh well that's being put on a pedestal a good boyfriend
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be a good husband but but a rejection of pedestalization i don't think is i think the
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language around relationships are all dysfunctional where it's like people say what do i want what do i
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want what do i want but a nature of a relationship is self-sacrificial it's supposed to be what can i
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provide what can i provide and when you have that lens you can have discernment to tell if someone
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else is going to be a bad bet or if they're going to be someone that can compliment your giving
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You asked the question of, why do I ask the question?
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I don't know if that was a satisfactory answer.
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No, I think we just had different, like when you said, this is how a woman should be treated.
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But, so was there anything, like further disagreement?
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Do you think that maybe there's an understanding as to why I asked the question?
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Yeah, I mean, I do think it is the case that, you know, I think a lot of women, not all women,
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but a lot of women do think that they are more attractive than they actually are.
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And this is going to, they're going to select a mate.
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Like, let's say you think your house is worth $5 million, but it's only worth a million.
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Maybe you might get some people who come and, like, do a viewing.
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Do you feel like it's mutual with men, too, though?
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Do you feel like men have a tendency to rate themselves higher or no?
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There are definitely men who aren't kind of aware of their standing.
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Do you think money and status make them delusional?
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well that would be a different value proposition but um i i think there's like a total you can do
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like a assessment in totality so it's like okay well if you're an average looking guy but your
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personality is stellar and you're super rich and all these other things that might bolster you a
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little bit but actually you know interestingly enough i actually think there's like massive
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amounts of discrepancy in the dating marketplace where like for example like the ceo of a billion
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dollar company uh say he's in like his mid-30s or whatever he's going to have a harder time dating
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than the like good-looking secretary like that's that's the dating marketplace where like you could
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have the ceo of a major billion dollar corporation who's making millions and millions of dollars a
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year maybe like eight figures who has a harder dating life than a fucking like maybe let's say
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like a seven secretary have we seen sam altman's girlfriend who i have not is she is she can we
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get this pulled up can we like can we google the the girlfriends uh while you're doing that uh
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shona can you read this um okay sam altman just sam altman girlfriends will give you the
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should i read it yeah any real man knows if a woman is faking sorry but women can't fake an
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org without a guy knowing most just don't care as long as they get theirs brian what the f is this
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pod you showed your hand not your usual stuff idk but i've been following for a couple years now
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with rachel last yeah you're that's a total vague post what hand did i show that you objected what
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the fuck is this what what is your actual uh what did i say disagreed with that you actually
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disagreed with that comment wait what i said you disagreed when we said women fake orgasms you
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disagreed with that comment and he just said what are you talking i don't even know if that's what
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he's referencing the fake orgasm thing as it relates to you showed your hand not your usual
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stuff um what does that even mean well i don't know that you showed your hand and i don't think
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i actually yeah no we didn't wait what i don't think the chatter is referencing the orgasm in
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that part of the chat okay yeah okay oh my god i'm just surprised we referenced a question made
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three hours ago i was like the whole conversation was because of the question that was uh down
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drop thank you for the super chat though i have no fucking idea what you're talking about and that
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only came in like 10 minutes ago so um thank you though uh reminders guys ten dollar display
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oops what the heck did i just do uh hundred dollar read two hundred dollar tts vetmo cash
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app whatever pod pull up twitch really quick and then we'll do the sam altman thing it was
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by the way the ftx scandal oh okay the scandal yeah uh yo guys i need we have 1200 watching on
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twitch guys drop us a twitch follow and a twitch prime sub drop us a prime sub guys it's been an
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hour since we last got the prime sub i think it's bugged boys can somebody just like test it out and
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maybe see if it's working i think it's bugged so if somebody can just clear up the the like
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something's wrong with twitch maybe just try to clear it up i think if you just somebody just
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sends in the prime it'll like fix it or whatever it'll something will get fixed you know sometimes
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you just you know it's like with uh you know your your computer sometimes you just got to restart
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it sometimes you just gotta send in a prime sub and it fixes the you know sometimes you just gotta
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smack the printer and it'll it'll start working whatever uh anyways uh there it is saturday thank
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you for the uh prime appreciate it also guys if you're enjoying the stream like the video please
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where are we on the likes let me see if i can hold people hostage on the like i think we're hold on
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we are at 2,200 likes let's get it to 3,000 likes we got 5,600 on youtube guys get us to 3,000 likes
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please get us to 3,000 likes over there on youtube if you're enjoying the stream uh do you have the
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thing for the girlfriend or whatever no sigmund fried at the ftx okay is he is she hot or something
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or opposite yeah but he's a billionaire he's not yeah but he's like like isn't he super autistic
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and ugly yes yes that's a good point i feel like most billionaires are yeah yeah yeah can we also
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point out that men use women for money too whoa what and success no it's true it's so true it's
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so true okay so look we're not look um okay but we're talking in generalities here so like
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are there male prostitutes yes not prostitutes no i know but i'm like i'm using a other example
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to articulate my point do male prostitutes exist for for women uh yes but it's super rare so like
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yeah there are men who use women for money there are women who are sugar mamas or whatever
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but like the ratio of sugar daddy to sugar mama has to be like for every thousand uh sugar daddy
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there's one sugar mama but do i'm not talking about sugar like sure yeah obviously well that's
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manipulative and deceptive the same way makeup is manipulative and deceptive it's like you're
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basically lying to the girl to get her into bed she's lying to you to get you into a relationship
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or to get you into a date yeah men should not misrepresent their intentions to get laid
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once again it's obviously wrong i feel like women a woman using a man for money is just as bad as a
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man using a woman for sex yeah i agree entirely with that point yes i agree with you absolutely
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well a woman using a man for money is just as bad as a man using a woman for sex yes i think
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that's ridiculous i think it's worse for the man to use a woman for sex why is it ridiculous
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Well, because a woman should actually care about a man's status and how much he can provide.
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What do you mean if a woman is using a man for his money?
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If her only intention with that man is to exploit him, then that's wrong.
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Same way that if a man's only intention is to exploit her, it's wrong.
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There's always a joke going around that says, no one falls in love harder than a broke dude.
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And I'm saying that because I'm not a millionaire, but I've had a very successful career.
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And I usually make more money than the men that I date.
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And, you know, they liked the fact that I worked for corporate America and then I traveled the world.
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I'm like, women are 100% responsible for the dating choices that they make.
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But why is it that so many good men are considered boring, but when it comes to broke men, as you've been mentioning, that are exploitative, they get girls.
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You're not looking for the right value system.
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Women are not oriented or educated correctly.
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If you're looking for a man, as you've mentioned, that has resources, is going to be a good father, is going to be a good husband, has the good character traits and quality,
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why is it so common for women to complain about men that have taken advantage of them, exploited them, that have basically used them for X, Y, and Z?
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They weren't looking at the things that actually matter.
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I think they were trying to look at it that way so they could say, like...
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But if they were looking for that, they wouldn't have been deceived.
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If they were carried away with their emotions, that's easier for them to basically be blindsided
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Saying that you're more down to earth so you didn't pick him for money, you didn't pick
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But that's kind of like the cope that women use post doing an experience like that.
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What I'm saying is they're not looking for the qualities that are going to make a good
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They're basically looking for a man that provokes an emotional reaction out of them, whether
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it's excitement or anxiety much like men are looking for women that provokes lust out of them
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it's the same animalistic impulse that is destroying both people's lives i would say
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though i feel like sometimes not even just sometimes a lot of the times it is the case
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that a man will do everything right show all these green flags and then blindside a woman
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and just use her anyway or be in a committed relationship and then just cheat on her i still
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think you can you can tell when a man is doing it out of just wanting it not always wait a second
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Woman who slept with twins days apart told baby's dad can't be identified.
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The woman reportedly had sex with the two brothers within four days of each other.
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A court has ruled that it cannot be determined who the biological father of a woman's child is
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after she slept with identical twin brothers in short succession of one another.
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The mother and one of the twin brothers took the case to court
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after the other brother was named on the baby's birth certificate.
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So basically what happened is a woman was, I guess, dating an identical twin, and then she was having sex with both of them, unbeknownst to them.
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This is way more, not the specific case, but this is kind of more common.
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I would not, like, in the history of identical twins, the partner has definitely fucked both the twins.
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And I guess there's going to be, like, okay, well, how do you determine, like, who is the father?
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So they can't actually make a DNA determination as to who's the father.
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She slept with the both of them in, like, the same time period.
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so it's like what is the solution maybe legal experts watching in the chat what is the actual
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legal solution do they i think you cannot if you cannot make an accurate determination as to which
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one is the father like let's say if she wanted to get child support i think you have to let both of
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them off the hook for child support wait can we back up one of the brothers wanted to actually
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take care of the kid that's what i read oh is it because they're twins like identical yeah okay
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and i think one of them actually was gonna be responsible even though he doesn't know if he's
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actually the father but one of them was like all right i'll take the blame yeah i mean we could
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reframe the example in any sort of way you know which let's say um one of them wants the custody
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uh but but let's say how about neither of them wants the kid right so they're not going to like
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willingly pay child support uh can the court force like to which one do they force to pay
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the child support uh assuming neither of them want to pay child support i would did both of
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these twins know that they were having sexual relations with her or is she like she was cheating
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okay then i think that's on her i think i think what happened well i read a lot about it i read
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a lot about it supposedly she was dating one and then kind of like you know this person she broke
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up with one of the brothers and then a couple of days after kind of like she getting back to this
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person she just lived with the brother yeah basically that's what happened i do think maybe
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that's a mental disorder if they're identical wait let's stick on topic here let's stick on
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topic the question is the question is uh in an instance where neither brother wants to have
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any sort of uh involvement with the child should one both of them or neither of them
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pay child support either you had something on yeah i think the best answer here um would be
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one of them and the way to reach this would to be look at her last period try to time the
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ovulation and figure out who is most likely like come up with some number where it'd be like okay
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you're 80 percent you're 80 likely to the father you're 20 likely to the father the 80 would be
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responsible so just look at her last period like it was what do you mean that's not possible
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I'm quite certain if one man had sex four days before she ovulated and another man had sex the day she ovulated, it's more likely.
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I would say when it comes to child support, it shouldn't be allowed unless the man was negligent, abusive, or some form of provable malfeasance.
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And if not, it's 100% custody to basically discourage women from doing situations like this.
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Where it's like you're not going to get child support from a man that you unethically behaved with.
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Well, actually, I think she should get child support from neither of them.
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I think that would be the best solution here.
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But who would marry a woman that had sex with your brother?
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I guess she'd be cuck maxing at that point.
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She should marry the second brother, the last man.
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Actually, any woman should marry the last man that she had sex with, actually.
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Why are you incentivizing a woman who's made a poor choice to then get financial compensation for it?
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If it's your body, your choice, as it is in the system, in this feminine system, then her child is her own now.
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The best option here is for the woman to marry the man she last had sex with, and that applies to every woman.
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That would be a punishment to that man, though.
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Because what if he doesn't want to be with her anymore?
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Well, then he shouldn't be hooking up with a woman.
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If a man has sex with a woman, he should marry her.
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I think the brother who betrayed his brother should marry that woman and then support the child, regardless.
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But not because of that, but because she...
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But because him and her essentially have a soul bond because they slept together, especially on her end.
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Women are very emotionally attached to the man that they have sex with due to reasons of, like, I don't know, nine months of pregnancy.
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But like on average, okay, we're talking about averages here.
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She should marry the man who actually, oh, to put it simple, the man should marry the woman who was the second man.
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I would actually argue when it comes to sex, it is soul bonding, but only in the context of someone that's building a family.
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That's why when infidelity, the reason it's so destructive is because it destroys lives rather than creates it.
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So if you're conceiving something in infidelity, it's almost like this is a perversion of the ordered situation.
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I mean, if a woman is having casual sex, it's still somewhat soul-binding to an extent, which is why it destroys them.
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You're exchanging energy, and it could be bad energy.
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It's not some mystical crystal bullshit, okay?
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It's like the woman subconsciously is wanting to be with the man because she wants him to...
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There are demons in people that you could exchange.
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I don't know if you have sex, you would change energies.
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Well, energy, spirit, whatever you want to call it.
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What it comes down to is a woman wants to be with a man that she just had sex with
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because she might be pregnant from him and she needs that man to provide for him.
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True, but at the same time, once again, a child support.
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That is why it is embedded in a woman's brain to be sexually,
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or sorry, to be emotionally attracted to a man that she has sex with.
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Because for him to reproduce, it takes 5, 10, 15 minutes, whatever.
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For a woman, it takes 9 months and most likely at least 15 years after that.
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In fact, that's what shotgun weddings used to be.
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But this is an example of they don't want to be involved.
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Like, for example, in Arkansas, like, just, I'm just giving an example for my state.
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They, like, I feel like they get into people's business too much and they force, like, when
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couples that are breaking up don't want the child support or they want to, like, or they
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would just want to figure it out themselves, they literally force, and it's like 50-50
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They force people, yeah, they force people to pay child support, and actually, in my
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instance with my youngest, I was going to be the one, I paid all the child, I paid all
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the child care, I pay everything, and I was still going to have to owe him $1,500.
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a month and i had him i have him 60 of the time but we're cool yeah we're cool and we just worked
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it out and we just worked it out you know and i have more custody but we're cool and we worked
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it out my ex-husband is i think a millionaire um and i could rake him through the coals but
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he's an active father he pays for things that's good and is he an active husband was he an active
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No, we were really young, and he was really stupid.
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Don't you think that created a large effect for your children, though?
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But if you're cheating on someone, that's yourself.
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and I just said to myself, I don't want my children
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He said I kept getting cheated on and I don't want diseases.
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So that was the concern of him cheating was the diseases?
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well we're friends and I did let him off the hook
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decide if a child is even born or not comes great responsibility to unilaterally take care of the
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child sure he can help if he wants to but that doesn't make it his responsibility nor the
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government's responsibility this is a black guy saying that's what i was gonna say i'm like
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obviously well well yeah i don't know ammunition for me if she if she fucked identical twins i
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think they get you gotta let what about oh wait wait what about this and i'm sure this has been
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posed in like legal classes philosophy classes uh two there's two identical twins one of them
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commits a murder and they find dna at the crime scene oh my gosh that's hard so they know it's
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one of them but and assume like there's a aren't fingerprints different though and twins
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That happened with the O.J. Simpson case, where it was the father and the son,
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where it was most likely the son that killed Nicole Brown,
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but they then blamed the father, and that's why the glove didn't fit,
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He had, like, a whole history of mental illness.
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for the super chat, $10 display, a hundred dollar read, $200 TTS.
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If you too would like to get a message in there. Um, but, uh, yeah,
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I think if there's, well, yeah, in the case of the murder,
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if all you have is the DNA and you don't have any further evidence and assume
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that, uh, because both of them are in peril because of this incriminating
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even though only one of them did it uh because both of them are in peril and assume they
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you know one of them didn't cooperate or whatever um uh because it is your right in the united
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states to you you have no duty to like self-incriminate you can plead the fifth you don't
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have to cooperate so they're just like okay we're not gonna uh whatever we're not gonna give you
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anything so they just have the dna i think in that instance i think legally right they
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perhaps I don't know if they put both of them on trial
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innocent until proven guilty if you want to go back there
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but there's also circumstantial evidence that positions one
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twin at one location and the other twin at the other
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and stuff like that no let's say two brothers are bar hopping two twins let's just say one of them
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let's just use murder i don't want to okay yeah let's just use the murder the murder one just
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yeah yeah just the murder okay oh so we're talking at the end of the case are we deciding if it's
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acquitted if they found nothing else throughout the trial it would be acquitted yeah there's no
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it's just that well i think that if if you only found dna but it wasn't a twin
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that would be enough of a basis i think to well i don't know i'm not a fucking criminal
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legal expert or whatever so i don't criminal law i don't i don't know probably even if you do find
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someone's dna you probably need some other degree of evidence to get a guilty verdict i don't know
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anyways it's kind of depends on the state it's all right anyways moving on moving on um uh okay
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here we're gonna get to the questionnaire what is the minimum yearly income to be your future
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husband six figures assuming i'm also making that much yeah but that's vague that's anywhere from
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100,000 to 999,000 that's the minimum i said so 100,000 would be the minimum okay it doesn't
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really matter okay hide the super chat please thank you for your super chat it doesn't matter
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so you'll date a guy who works at mcdonald's do you have a kid i have two girls but i mean
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you're married right i'm married and i'm a business owner so i mean i really don't care
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how much what about you uh 100 000 just because that's what my husband makes okay what about you
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thanks i mean i wrote 35 000 but that's actually a lie because my current partner makes less
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so i guess okay the minimum would be less uh i'm married but 50k yeah next i put down 80 000 but
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i kind of want to switch it to 60 because it just seems more realistic i didn't put down a number
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because i was thinking of it depends on where we're living at and how much would be like the
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basics to be able to take care of a family so where we live at right now i'd say like 60 000
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yeah okay yeah i actually agree with that i didn't put down a number either you don't have one uh
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also hannah uh not i i wouldn't say who but i noticed on your instagram story you were taking
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photos with a man is that just like a friend or that's my little brother oh that's your brother
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i was like is that uh you're on a little vacation with a okay um you don't have one so you'll date
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a guy who works at mcdonald's then uh no okay so there's a police officer and i've dated somebody
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who owns a like very successful company so i don't have a minimum but i mean police officers
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can make good money they can make i mean they can make enough they can make six figures right
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Yeah, I was going to say, it's not that, like, I don't see that as a lot of money, but I don't have a minimum.
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I put 60K, and as long as they're not relying on me for anything, dating, obviously, for married and things happen, but dating, as long as they're not relying on me financially, then, yeah.
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My presence online is pretty solid, so I just need a man who's going to demonstrate good characteristics to.
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Angelica, can I have you just tilt your mic down a little bit?
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And then, Riley, do you care about a woman's income?
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Because I've always wondered about the men who get, like genuinely, who get.
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Like my girlfriend, she currently works at In-N-Out, and she has a degree in geography.
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She can get a job making a lot more money, but she told me, I don't want to.
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I don't want to work up some corporate career ladder and get distracted by it.
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I'm just going to work at In-N-Out until I get married.
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Why you wouldn't date a woman that makes more money than you though?
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though because if you're making 100 grand a year that means they focused on their education they
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probably went to college they probably got fucked 30 times so you don't know why does that equal
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that she's educated hard-working ambitious has aspirations and goals i have to admit i don't
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want a woman who has goals of having hey i want to have seven to ten kids i'd be like great i want
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you to be my wife i don't want a woman who has the goals like i want to make a bunch of money
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that was my goals growing up i grew up very mormon that was literally ingrained in our brains like
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i got married at 20 i'm one of 12 kids i got married at 20 i had a kid at 22 and 24 and i
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felt like in a lot of ways i screwed myself over because when i don't he's a drug addict
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it's kind of a big one yeah but when you're young i'm saying i didn't know that yeah like well so
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i'm saying i put myself on the back burner i don't have aspirations of becoming a boss bitch
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as you say i want to be a mom i want to be a wife but i'm saying i do feel like there's a level of
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like i should have probably prepared myself a little bit better so i'm not in this position
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But I agree with Riley because I have always made more money
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But at the same time I can recognize the power imbalance
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and that emasculates them and you're no longer attracted to it.
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Women shouldn't even have this type of backup because you're saying
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oh I want to have some type of backup. Here's what most
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I think you should have a backup if the man is showing
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You can't only just start up a backup. The woman's backup should
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So are you saying women should have secret
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exactly but if a man but you shouldn't go into the relationship with the mindset of oh he's
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gonna do this to me so i have to put this yeah but let's say something happens to you where
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you're ill and you can't work then what happens then she has life insurance okay well here's the
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problem though is too many women go into marriage with this framing of he's gonna cheat on you he's
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gonna beat you he's gonna blah blah blah and they want the backup or whatever self-fulfilling
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prophecy so i think if you are going into a marriage thinking well i need a backup just
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in case all this happens because you always like hear these stories but yeah they're really the
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outlier yeah i wanted to ask i wanted to ask and i understand where you're coming from because you
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feel like you came out of a relationship without everything do you know what the birth rate in
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america is per what for each woman how many kids that they have it's 1.6 right so the average woman
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has less kids than what is for the replacement levels okay so almost every single woman that
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I've met that's working a big career or in college right now. They're just doing it as a backup and
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then they'll get married later. So this is what happens. Carl's 18 years old. She's like, oh,
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I'm going to take a gap year before I go to college. I'm going to go to Europe and fuck a
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bunch of guys. Then they come back. They go to college for six years or whatever. Then guess
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what? They're 25 when they get out of college, but oh, they have a bunch of student loan debt.
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So then they wait five or six or seven years to pay it off. She's like, well, I want to pay off
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my student loan debt before I get married. And before you know it, they're 32 years old. Then
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they find a guy. They date him for about two years. Then they're like, what, 34 years old.
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Then when she tries to have a second kid at 38 years old, she's like, oh, wait, I'm infertile.
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By the time a woman hits 30, if she is unmarried and doesn't have kids, she has a 50-50 chance of ever actually getting married and then having kids.
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The average woman in America has a kid after the age of 30 years old.
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Yeah, and that's part of the reason the maternal mortality rate has gone up.
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The higher chance of autism doesn't occur until after 35.
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the chances for miscarriages and pregnancy complications start to rise.
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Okay, let me speak, because I actually had a baby.
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reproductive system was already used to it. With a
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surrogacy is an industry because of birth control destroying women's uteruses also their brains
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i hate it so much that's what made me that's what made me right wing in part surrogacy is very
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similar to prostitution and that's that a woman is selling out her body becoming mentally traumatized
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after doing the job and getting paid a large amount of money it is people using a woman's body
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but it's because they're poor and they just need the money
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and they're just so numb that they're like, you know what, I'll just do it
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In fact, even if she goes back on it, which a lot of women do, she can't go back because
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the contract says that that's not your child anymore.
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So you're kind of saying like, oh, it's their choice if they want to do that.
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And so I wanted to ask, if I go to like some poor neighborhood in LA and I know somebody's
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not going to be able to pay their rent on time and they're afraid of becoming homeless
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and I say, hey, I want you to eat a bunch of crayons.
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Even if they decide, oh yeah, I do want to do that.
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The cases of surrogacy that I've personally seen are like people that are close to a person who can't have a child.
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Do you know the woman that was pregnant for nine months and got her child stripped away from her?
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Or the woman who got her egg and got her husband's sperm and had some young woman's life destroyed from psychological trauma?
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I don't know anybody on a super personal level, but I have heard stories of the pregnant people who care about...
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Is it okay to allow something just because someone consents to it?
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Is there not a responsibility on society to say this behavior is not allowed?
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There is certain circumstances where consent is what matters.
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But what about the MAID program, for example?
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Michelle, you've got to let people finish their thought.
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When it's not about money, I think that it's perfectly acceptable for consent to be the only thing that matters.
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That's my sister-in-law did that for her sister.
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Well, also, she's probably not mentally traumatized because now it's her niece.
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When it's not incentivized by money or any other kind of power.
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But what about something like the MAID program where it's not incentivized by money?
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The MAID program is something that's becoming more and more popular, where they're basically allowing, like, to self-terminate, basically, based off of just how you feel.
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It happened in Spain with this really famous case where a girl was just violated.
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So, and not only that, they harvest your organs before you're fully expired, basically.
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So, in a functional society, in a good society, do we allow people who are behaving in a way that can be so easily exploited to behave that way?
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Absolutely not, because when you're in that state that is a mental illness and you need to be treated with care, you can't make, it's like when you're in court and they're deciding whether or not you're mentally able to testify or whatever, it matters what mental state you're in.
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Do you think we're normalizing mental illness as a means to behave in certain ways, meanwhile stigmatizing common sense, so as to facilitate people to hurt themselves and profit from that?
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I think we stigmatize mental health a lot as a society, and this goes back to, I don't
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want to bring up the transing again, but when you're like, oh, why is that a mental health?
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Do you know how many women are sexually assaulted in the military?
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Yeah, that's why they should be in the military.
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You can't get mad at me for something I have no idea about.
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Yeah, that's why you ask and you don't say shit like that.
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She said the Marines, as in it's from her duty.
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no matter what the mental illness is you have to you you can't just fully let somebody make
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their own decisions when it is based off of that mental illness yes whether it's ptsd or gender
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dysphoria or any of these things you you kind of you have to take that into consideration when
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they're making choices do you think a woman's natural instinct to give birth and then have it
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be taken away from her might be okay i gotta move on we're off topic here um in any case a woman's
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career money status uh yeah i think we were just uh oh riley you're just making the point of
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uh not really caring about the woman's income uh do any women have any objections to this
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no about men not caring about it yeah like for example i one of the questions or statements is
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a woman's career money status uh makes her more attractive to men many of you agreed to this
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i think generally speaking men don't really care all that much about a woman's career
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her money or her status insofar as it making her more attractive i disagree some don't some do i
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get used a lot yeah for that yeah but it doesn't but they're using you out of a necessity like a
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financial necessity but it doesn't make you more attractive it can though no so many men have said
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that it's so attractive that you are like in like independent i'm speaking in generalities yeah
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there's hobosexual men who it shows like hard working it shows that you're hard working it
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shows that you're disciplined it shows that that's not an attraction trigger if a man wants a hard
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working those things can make you a better mother too if you have those traits hey tiffany can you
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get them some water please um yeah men don't really care about what i like to not work and
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rely on a man yes i would i think men that want to use you care about those things but no most
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most men it's not like wow she's really hard working like yeah men do say this like wow
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yeah ambition we want you ambitious in other ways i've never heard a man say that ever yeah like
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ever i say exactly what you're saying yeah all the time say say what that's like you want women
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ambitious in other ways like they want somebody who's passionate has ambition but doesn't have
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to be related directly to like a workforce ambition for the family ambition for me right
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they're not mutually exclusive like loyalty i've heard it i've heard men like basically respect
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women for their accomplishments but i've never heard it be a deal breaker for a man for a woman
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it's a deal breaker but it can it can foster respect and it can definitely but also i'm
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what they're basically saying is this something that in general is like a value system for a woman
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and it or for a man and it's not it's it's like an added bonus to a man but ultimately if it gets
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in the way of the relationship that's a negative yeah but i feel like as a person that is sitting
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here and they're looking at the woman they know that they want to provide for them they don't
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care it can easily be downgrade for women though for all men i'm saying just both types of men
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exist a lot of successful men date women who are super low profile like most most successful men
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date in their status wait like mark that doesn't necessarily mean that they make as much money as
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no but they they're basically looking for the pedigree so they'll have sex with whatever but
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they have to for the status of it basically marry someone within that sphere but if you have
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notoriety like for example jeff bezos you'll basically date whoever you want because you're
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in another level it's more about attraction and who you want to live your life with when you're
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successful you're not looking for somebody who's also successful it's more about who you can parent
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with well i can agree with that too you can build a life with who you're attracted to the amount of
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men that i'm like i do not need him goodbye and like i've given up on relationships because i
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physically like literally do not need them is well it's kind of freeing but also at the same time
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with money and that's exactly if you're not afraid of them well what is it right of them
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he's just cautious no it is unattractive for a woman to be independent well what if we have to
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be independent yeah do you want me to live off the government i'm over here like not living off
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the government paying into the government like well for a woman i'm not i'm more attractive
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I heard about half of them, you guys were yapping a lot
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All of you guys were saying, oh yeah, a man likes a woman who's dependent
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And then I'm like, a man doesn't like a woman who's independent
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And eight of you started talking all at once
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Because I said the exact same thing, phrased in a different way
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So when a woman is independent, it shows like, wait, why is she so independent?
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There's obviously something not psychologically there that will make her a great traditional
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So that's why men don't find independent women attractive because it shows that they had
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some type of trauma as a child or a teenager or a young adult that makes them not want
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Men like women who have the least amount of trauma possible.
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Do you want them to be codependent or independent?
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He didn't even say anything about clingy women
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It's not about that, it's like just saying in general
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How many times do I gotta fucking tell you guys?
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where he's thinking like oh this and that he's looking for the ideal partner he set himself up
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correctly he's basically raised himself to have a career he's done everything the right way when
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it comes to someone who's had a difficult life when they're older they're going to look for
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someone else who can understand that they don't want to marry someone like riley where it's like
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you're not going to understand this life that's how i feel because i'm like i would love to be
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dependent on somebody but i i feel like i was put in a position where i i have to be rely on my
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kids yes yes there's no way like i think it'd be unattractive if i was not independent as a mom
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And you're on welfare and like you should find a man that is going to be someone who's wounded by a similar experience and will understand that pain and compliment you and give you that life that you've always sought.
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I think there's a complete difference between saying that you're dependent or independent and being codependent.
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It's not trying to push someone else away from you at the same time.
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You can be financially dependent on someone while still being able to handle yourself emotionally.
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I would want my wife to be somewhat emotionally dependent on me.
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Like to ask you every time she has a feeling and wants to ask on it?
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And just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with your stance.
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But some women, like me and Hannah, we have to provide for our children.
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And if I'm going to be sitting around waiting on Prince Charming, I'm not going to be getting those things.
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Well, to be honest, it's because you're in your 40s.
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That Prince Charming is not going to come along.
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I was going to say, you don't want her to be emotionally dependent on you.
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you want her to be financially dependent on you cool i understand that's your preference what if
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you like obviously this isn't the case but you turn out to be this evil person you fuck her over
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you cheat on her and it's not always a self i'm not saying you are i'm not talking about you as
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a person as an individual i'm just saying in a hypothetical the man does that and it's not
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always a self-fulfilling prophecy yeah but what if he's not like riley doesn't strike me as a man
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who's going to cheat on his wife he's been thinking about her needs and wanting to prioritize her
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whatever so there's plenty of men who are going to give her that you could rephrase it there's
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plenty of bad men you can maybe you could rephrase it in a way and there's plenty of bad
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women okay you can rephrase it in a way that may be like oh what if a girl who's you know dependent
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on the man then the man she's on her instead of bringing up me into it okay i was not actually
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ever about you no no i know i know i'm just being technical yeah she's on her um just like turns
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out to be like a really bad person isn't a good father like there's so many different factors that
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can make a man not a good candidate you know sometimes in life you have to roll the dice
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i'm still talking suddenly she's in a position where like what's she gonna do she has a kid
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she's got to worry about all that you just said oh i'm still talking i've probably been the nicest
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with not interrupting people you haven't been nice you asked me my ptsd came from a paper cut
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yeah but that wasn't an interruption okay well he's saying i'm still talking was you're still
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salty about that that had nothing to do with what i mean well you would be she was talking
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and while she was talking okay can we continue that was a good reminder yeah whatever that was
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a good reminder it was a good well it's also like a stereotype your turn i did i did to be
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completely transparent i did tell a fib in my relationship status i'm not engaged i've actually
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been married i am a married woman i have way more money than my husband does way more money i did
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not get a prenup namely because i have full trust in my husband if he betrays me then sure that'll
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be agony but at the end of the day when you get married you have to give them full trust otherwise
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why are you getting married to them okay but you have to be one has so much more to lose
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you have to look for the qualities that you need in a spouse you need to look for a man who's going
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to be a good husband a good father that's what happened in my parents we're acting like men
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don't pretend to be good people and then just no can you repeat it again i said one has a lot
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more to speak in that situation like financially in terms of what happened to your parents i mean
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i don't really like airing this out in public but you just mentioned i know i know i understand
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He showed up in every way necessary, and then he cheated on her.
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Yeah, but up until that point, everything was perfect.
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The thing is that when it comes to men like that, it's like if they're career-driven,
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And if they're career-driven or materialist-driven, saying, I'm going to provide this for a woman, then, yeah, they might think indiscretion is okay because they provide whatever.
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But still, I'm like, if a man doesn't prioritize family, if his conviction is not, I want to do this for my wife, for my children, then that's not a good man.
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If he's saying, I want to do this because that's how you get women, then that's kind of an indication of he's going to look around and justify himself.
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I, to this day, will say, I think I married the right guy.
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I think that he changed, and I think that that affected me and my kids.
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He was a different man 20 years later than when she first married him.
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money will make the worst toxic qualities out of you come out.
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Just wanted to say that I keep to myself, but want to give Chair One her props for standing her ground and always returning.
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How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
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I'm 5'1", and the minimum, I would say probably 5'7".
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I'm 5'6", and the shortest, I guess I'll go, is 5'7", 5'8".
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I'm 5'6", and I wouldn't really say I have a minimum.
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I mean, I think I put 5'2", but it doesn't matter to me.
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i'm five five i can't remember i put five ten or five eleven either one for me
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and my fiance is six foot three okay i got lucky
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um i'm five three and a half and my partner is five ten and i think i put five nine
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yeah you uh i'm five eight i mean height is great because it makes me feel more feminine but i dated
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a guy that was five nine you you say that as if to be five nine which is the average male height
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as if it's no i think i'm taller for a woman so i'm saying i like i like to like it would be nice
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a good preference to have somebody taller just because it makes me feel more feminine
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but my first boyfriend after my divorce was five nine and that wasn't like but it seemed like
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that's a deficit even though you would like it's well because i do want to feel feminine i do want
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to feel like I think it's fair you want to feel small what about you um five one so like I think
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I put five six okay next I'm five six five seven depending on my hip placement of the day um but
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I like short kings I'll date I've dated short kings before um okay five five five seven all
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right Riley do you have any height preferences or just uh probably shorter than five foot eight
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or five foot eight and shorter how tall are you
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oh okay i'm just kidding yeah i don't really uh what about you brian
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oh i mean i don't really have a massive high preference i'll date shorter i'll even date
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taller i guess some men have an apprehension to dating like like women who are much taller
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much uh i think men some men might have an apprehension to dating taller women but i
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But, like, in terms of, like, general attraction,
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I would say have a general attraction to petite women.
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But for sons, like, give me, like, a 6'5", just fucking not fat.
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uh okay what do you mean by that um i have followed the show for a while and i just feel
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like sometimes they push it too much you know especially you uh give me an example uh i don't
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know just earlier probably when you were saying that you know that you wouldn't well also him
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that you wouldn't date someone that makes more money than you like i feel like like if you know
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a woman making more money disqualifies her or, like, makes her unattractive?
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um so yeah i don't think it's wrong for a man to have a preference on a woman's income
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and if that means like he just doesn't care at all about her income i think that's totally
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fine i don't think mind you though you wrote this before the show started before this revealed
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conversation um i don't see how that would be a narrative against women it almost seems like
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it's actually a privileged position for women to be in, for men to be willing to take on
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essentially the entire financial burden in a relationship, that actually seems like that's
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to the benefit of women. I mean, I feel like some woman might appreciate that. I don't because like
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she said, I'm very independent. I mean. Okay. So a billionaire comes along and he's like,
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a condition of you being with me, let's assume he meets all your other criteria,
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is you have to stop working. Do you take the deal? No. That's retarded.
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i'm sorry that's so retarded so even as a man where i have like a sort of there's a biological
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imperative to provide if a like a billionaire woman comes to me is like hey brian uh yeah i'll
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be with you and so she meets all my and she meets all my other criteria and she's like hey i'm a
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billionaire you don't have to work let's just like fuck me all day and take care of the children
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i'm taking the fucking deal like i'm taking that deal but it's amazing to me that women where your
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biological imperative isn't even to provide i wouldn't i will get super fucking bored what do
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you do for work i i actually am a business owner i mean i do everything okay your business what
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business do you own uh i own two vegan restaurants you own vegan restaurants yes so just be clear
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by the way restaurant business i understand is is a lot of work it's stressful uh and you own
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two of them two restaurants a billionaire man comes along no vegans don't play
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well I mean if a billionaire man was in the picture you could do you could go way further
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with your vegan activism than owning two restaurants but um but Brian I have a question
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for you do you ever have like like for example like for me during the summer like you you have
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a block of time where you have nothing to do no routine no productivity nothing that you're
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working towards and feel really like intellectually under stimulated intellectually under stimulated
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or just like you like sometimes productivity actually feels really good i mean my goal is
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to be pumping out like seven children uh how many do you have huh how many do you have well you know
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i'm a little i'm a little slacking on that but uh i it's in the it's in the works but you have 30
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years i got some time i got some time to do it but uh just never i mean my my whoever i'm gonna
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to end up with she's gonna have she's gonna be plenty preoccupied with the children and i honestly
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want her to be homeschooling them so she's gonna have yeah no i'm not gonna send them to the school
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to get transed um if i could homeschool i would i agree is raising children not productive yeah
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i'm saying like it is productive but some women like might have aspirations beyond that and still
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that's and also like before the time that they're having children or after the time after other
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children get older closer to the mic closer to the mic oh yeah you've just been propagandized
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yeah this idea i genuinely have the desire to work one day like really why where did you get
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that desire because i i want to go into health care i want to contribute to the health care
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system why why so much because it's interesting to me who taught you that and i care about it
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you to want that no one taught me that i came to your biology to want to have children and to raise
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children it is not instilled in your biology to have some boss lady career but not every desire
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ex-husband is a millionaire and I can take a lot of money
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think about that? Why are you bringing that up?
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You love to bring it up. I'll get there in a second.
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No, I just said I think you should be married to them.
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It's because I'm independent that I'm able to do that.
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Going back to the Griselda point, I think the reason Griselda's
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not going to date a billionaire is because passionately speaking, she wants a man who's
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going to give her that electricity. And it's like, that's what she's biologically wired to do. She
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doesn't want a man that's just going to give her money. She wants a man who's going to give her
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passion. I really don't. I mean, again, I can probably... It's just like pragmatically super
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retarded. It's like... It is. Like, I have like a passion for, you know, espousing some of this
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shit. But if some like super hot big labia billionaire woman comes along and she's like,
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brian give me seven children uh but hey look um i want you to be an active father and like this
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podcast look you're successful maybe you make like seven figures a year or whatever but like you know
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come on sweep that off the table i thought you wanted i'm taking the fucking deal like i'm
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taking right if it's a woman with a big labia let's say who's gonna cancel everything you wait
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if there's if it's a woman with a big labia that meets all of your physical and lust
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requirements would you choose that over a billionaire woman so wait okay the tooth it's
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she has a big labia but she's or yes or uh she's a billionaire who's gonna sweep you off your feet
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tiniest labia you've ever seen i'll take you away from it you're gonna choose what's gonna make you
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feel emotionally like this is what i want so you think what do you hear i'll give you my answer
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but what do you think i'm gonna pick big labia nope oh no that's crazy yeah how's that yourself
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If you have the option to just lay back, why wouldn't you take it?
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Look, I like a woman with big labia, but like...
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If you found this miracle billionaire woman with a gigantic labia, what would you do if you're married?
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You have seven children with this billionaire woman with a gigantic labia, even bigger than her bank account.
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What would you do if she got a labiaplasty after you had children?
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This would be a conversation, and I would strongly guide her away from it.
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And given the type of relationship dynamic I want, I would hope she would defer to my leadership on this particular issue.
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I don't think they have the, I don't think they actually, I mean, they could.
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Like female genital mutilation, just a hole there, two holes.
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Or would you prefer them to get an extension?
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Wait, so this is just about, this is a labia question, yes.
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they put two deli ham slices there extension you'd go for the extension i'd take the kind
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of botox it would just be weird like but if i had you really would between so she gets the
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labiaplasty and she has an innie versus she has an audi but then i'm not talking an innie i'm
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talking like female genital mutilation like there's tools are left over that's it yeah there's
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no lips yeah yeah yeah i mean porn stars do that the extension i'll take the extension the six inch
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extension i take it bro i take it i'll tie it into a knot raise your hand if you think that's gay
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i'll tie it into it he wants to dive into it thank you wait if what is it what's gay do you think
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that's gay what no six inch labia no not at all it's just more pussy oh my god women get yeast
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infections from gigantic labias women get a lot more problems i don't think it's gonna look like
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it so pussy does rule the world then i almost feel like it's gay wait it's gay to not like
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audis because it's like labia are you talking about labia now it's just like never i'm not
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gonna go there is it an audi a sign of higher testosterone on average it might you know what
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Like, for example, I've noticed sometimes women who have a bit more body hair, like some arm hair, I look at them, I'm like, she might have an outie.
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This is from personal experience, not from looking.
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Well, typically when it comes to high-powered men in stressful positions, which I would qualify Brian as being, and he likes dominant women who are just going to take control from him.
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equation he just said he wants a woman to defer to him to be submissive he could say that but the
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big lobby uh hairy arms maybe she wants to be dominated by the labia let's call it a lobby
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it's not a lot like a hotel lobby labia it's still it's still a woman subject it's still a
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subject matter it doesn't make it gay it's still it's not gay i argue that it's not gay but what
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i'm saying is if you want a woman with extra testosterone and you're in a high control group
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typically men who are in those high positions like dominant women because it gives them i don't
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like dominant women go control that big you'd be with a million a billionaire
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you said you would be with a billionaire woman over the love of this isn't this isn't contrary
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to my position it is very much contrary he said a billionaire he said that a billionaire is an
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exception, not the rule. Hold on. Yeah. Okay. Well, you just said you don't like
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independent women too. You guys are attributing like things that don't even exist. First off,
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recall when I said she's a billionaire, but she meets my other metrics, right? So like my other
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metrics would be like, she defers to my leadership. She, she's submissive, et cetera. So no, I don't
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have an attraction to dominant women. I find them quite off putting. Uh, it's independent
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dominant though. Like if you're an independent woman, we were talking about dominant. Her claim
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was dominant women. Would you like a woman
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so it's you get your blood drawn and dare I say I've had this done you get your blood drawn and
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they separate the plasma from the blood and the plasma has stem cells and you if you're a man you
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inject the tip if you're a woman you inject the clit and the vaginal walls and it's supposed to
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make you orgasm a hundred times better how you got the big lady you did no this was this I got
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this after the labiaplasty real yeah that's a real thing that's a real thing yep and it works
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okay yeah you got it i don't know i got it done yeah oh damn what are your thoughts where were we
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i totally forgot where we were i don't even know we're talking about height we're talking about
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height what are the pros to this dating requirements what about birth control
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disagree i'm against what about it i think i'm a guy it goes to hormone and all this stuff but
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But it prevents accidental pregnancy, which under your world view, I would assume, prevents abortion.
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Yeah, so essentially birth control changes the type of man that a woman finds attractive.
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So let's say you're on birth control when you're in high school.
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You meet a guy, he's great, he's so nice, he's only 5'8", but whatever, you find that he's a nice guy, he's going to be a computer scientist or whatever.
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You get married to him, then you're like 28 years old, and you're like, hey, let's have some kids.
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so you get off birth control and then what happens is when you get off that birth control to have
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kids or whatever your your natural state of what you find attractive will then shift to a more
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masculine type of guy so then when you have like two kids already you're like crap i haven't found
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my husband attractive in like five years but geez tyrone from high school being very you know high
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testosterone or whatever he's very attractive i'm gonna go cheat on my husband i'm gonna get a
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divorce with my husband he's a wimp i think it's a crazy reach to say that yeah that was like
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birth control is going to happen with birth control wait so so the yeah yeah the the phenomenon
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that that riley's talking about and that she's agreeing with is that when women are taking
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hormonal uh birth control they have done studies on this and i think i i'm not sure the exact
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methodology but they'll like show uh women picture uh faces uh pictures of faces of men
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and they'll use like men who have more feminine characteristics versus men who have
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more masculine characteristics and when women are on birth control they actually find men who have
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more like feminine soft features uh more attractive when they're on hormonal birth
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so imagine what happens attraction would completely like plummet to the ground and do a 180
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i don't know but i don't think the claim is it's like okay they know like it's to degrees
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yes i think birth control should be banned also birth control causes an abortion at a very early
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staged at around five days. So essentially, you can still conceive when you're on birth control.
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The main function of birth control is to prevent ovulation. The secondary function of birth control
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is that if you do conceive, it'll thin the lining of your uterine wall so much that the conceived
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egg cannot implant on the uterine wall. So for that reason, birth control should be banned because
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it is murder, because abortion is murder. It's quite common sense, actually. And then the other
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reason is because it makes women want to divorce their husbands. If you actually look at the birth
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control usage rates and divorce rates, they actually perfectly coincide with a three-year
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delay. It is perfectly coincided. If you look at divorce rates in America from 1960 to modern day
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to birth control rates from 1960 to modern day, perfectly coincides with it. And so yeah, birth
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control changes the type of man that you find attractive. So when you get on it or off of it
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while you're with a guy or married to him, there's a really likely chance that you will not find him
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attractive anymore and that's the main reason why the majority of divorces are initiated by
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women nowadays i have an argument against birth control from a different position me too can i
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voice it yeah so um birth control when it was uh popularized it actually people thought well this
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will decrease the need for abortion this will eliminate people prevent pregnancies but the
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reality is once the birth control pill was introduced uh people started having way more
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Even if you're not defining it that way, I'm just making...
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who's number 10 wait what uh that's you i didn't understand what he said he said that
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well yeah he said your insult your insult was worse though not gonna lie well can i come at
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the birth control argument from another perspective you know what i'm gonna actually
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let riley just have his word on that and i gotta move it on for the sake of time uh down draft
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around the table who would be okay with a five foot eight 80k a year good father and role model
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but you never have to work and can do whatever you want as long as you submit to him would you
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be willing to do that knowing that if you don't then he will see other women that are willing to
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submit i mean that sounds chill uh no what does he mean by submit like if he's a christian yeah
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is it just like sexually or like um what do you mean by that i don't know what that means
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i mean overall i would just say yes that sounds good to me it's it's basically just like um he's
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he's a good father uh he's five foot eight he makes 80k a year uh he's only cheating if you're
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not submitting but that's the thing why would he should be cheating in the first place exactly
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that's not a good father if he's not happy with you then he should just end the relationship
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actually answer well why yeah why does cheating need to come and could technically be a good
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father no yeah and be a cheat yeah how is that a good father cheating affects the child's life
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if she doesn't find out but aren't you supposed to like set an example that's not a good father
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cheating is bad cheating is bad don't do it but technically shauna and i 100 on this no you can't
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be a good father and cheat at all you betray the home a good father cannot cheat no a good father
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cannot cheat correct so your father is not good why would you that's not for doing that yeah that's
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why i lost i think you could be a good parent and a bad spouse i think i think well if you're a good
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parent you wouldn't hurt the other spouse like if you're a good mother you would take care of the
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father and if you're a good father you take care of the good i also i also believe people can change
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my ex my ex-husband was a dick but he was young he was stupid now he's a good back to this so i
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want to clarify like now my father is a good father and i don't want to like talk that's good
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that's good so anyways uh we were you were saying the narrative against women you that's what you
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disagree with they push yeah i just feel like in general i have like i said i have been watching
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the podcast for a while i just feel like you know even though i lean more you know i'm anti-feminist
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type of thing uh but yeah i feel like sometimes they push the narrative too much against women
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somehow you know okay how so you know i don't have this exact how can i say the exact thing
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to say at this point but i feel like you know watching the show through some months probably
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years now. I have seen that. I mean, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed
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without evidence. I'm not, I mean, if you're not willing or able to articulate what precisely the
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narrative against women is that I am pushing, it's hard for me to engage with that. I'm not
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going to make your arguments for you. That's fine. So is there anything that you can point to that
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would be indicative of the narrative against women that is pushed by me?
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I mean, there's so many ideas floating that, yeah.
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No, I mean, like I said, it just feels on my perspective that, you know,
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watching the show through several years, I feel now, yeah, that's how it feels,
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that there's a lot of negativity towards women in general, you know,
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okay what is the negative negativity towards women i i just feel like you know like i have
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seen a couple of things where you say that women should be submissive how would that be negative
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i feel like i mean i'm not submissive at all and i don't think i'm not trying to date you though
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no but i i don't think women should be submissive i feel like in our relationship we should be an
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equal well define in your terms define submissive i guess well submissive for me will be you know
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I'm an independent woman. I think I can do everything
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So, yeah, I think, yeah, I'm against being submissive towards a man.
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Okay, so in your questionnaire here, you circled the following, that you agree with the following statements.
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Men should provide protect, men should be chivalrous, husband should be willing to die protecting you.
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Okay, so don't you think, so is it, if it's wrong for me to say women should be submissive,
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why is it not wrong for you to say that men should provide men should protect men should be
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chivalrous and then the husband should be willing to die protecting you it seems like it's a bigger
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call to sacrifice a bigger call to action to say men should be willing to die than to simply say
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women should follow their husband's lead boyfriend's lead be submissive that seems like a
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bigger well i still kind of follow my husband's lead but i wouldn't be submissive i just think
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it's a you know that's submissive is yeah i think it's the word that you guys yeah i think you are
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hung up on the word submissive and they think it's like suzy homemaker 1950s or like you're
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beneath him yeah it's not like it just means like letting the man lead and we want a manly man to
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take lead that's basically it also just means deferring to his judgment his authority his
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judgment his leadership his authority i disagree because in my marriage at least we take 50 50 i
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I mean, I feel like a marriage should be 50-50.
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Women say that they want 50-50, but let me ask, when you went on a first date with him, who paid for the date?
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How about the subsequent dates, who paid for them?
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Okay, and then in terms of the contribution to the current household, is it 50-50?
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I mean, basically, you know, he has a job, you know, outside of the restaurants that we own.
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It's a cultural difference, though, because, like, with an Hispanic culture, the element of wanting that passionate love, which involves a lot of, like, toxic elements, is what's prioritized.
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So are you saying that, like, who financed your business?
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Okay, so but prior to starting your business, you both worked?
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So I'm assuming if he worked or you worked for him, I'm assuming he was earning more than you.
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Which he funded, given that he was the breadwinner.
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Usually the boss typically makes more money than the employee.
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I opened, I, we opened the restaurants when it was COVID.
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Have you ever had to get money from his career and inject it into the business's bank account?
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I thought, I thought it was a little fishy when a woman mentioned that she owns a business.
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Has he ever had to, like, get money from you in some way for something else as well?
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But, again, it evens out because, again, we're married.
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Well, because, again, I believed, you know, in first days and all that, men should pay.
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But if you asked him out, would you have paid?
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Women don't ask out men, so it's fucking retarded.
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Men would feel insulted if they didn't pay.
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My husband, he literally looks like Brian.
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It's like I'm looking like physically he looks like Brian.
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If you genuinely believe in equality, you should.
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i understand that men have the um have this uh you know perhaps expectation placed on them to
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pay you should have insisted though you certainly could have insisted that uh you split the bill
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and if that was an impossibility you should have paid for the next time but you didn't
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he kept paying for how many um did he continue paying for dates throughout the course of the
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relationship yes ah and did you ever you didn't even insist okay so it's it's only equality but
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when it when it suits you so when it comes to uh receiving perks of uh traditional gender roles
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then you'll happily okay oh i'm just a woman but uh when it comes to uh you know the roles in the
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relationship you want to perhaps have a egalitarian no but even if i wanted to pay
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that for the type of person that my husband is he's conservative as hell like you have he wouldn't
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He doesn't even let me, like, it's not even artistic.
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Then you have an egalitarian imperative to say, listen, fucker, I'm paying for the fucking date.
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I feel like I would do a 50-50 if I'm not trying to date or to date actually this guy.
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And if I'm actually being as a friend, yeah, I'd do that.
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So, okay, if you go on the date and you know you don't like the guy, then you'll pay for the bill.
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But in instances where you do want to pursue an egalitarian relationship, the guy should pay for the bill?
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I'm like, if you're working and having sex with him and paying for everything or whatever and you have kids, then it's more than 50-50 at that point.
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You've given him children, you've given him money, and you're giving him sex and passion.
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So it's like that's a whole different other definition of egalitarianism.
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Egalitarianism means something completely different
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So, and this is like not just, uh, imaginary hypothetical.
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This is something I've actually encountered multiple times with women.
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So, uh, one thing I prefer, um, I value my sleep substantially.
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So I actually prefer sleeping in separate bedrooms.
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It's lucky a deal breaker for a lot of women out there.
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Well, they're going to have to defer to me on this.
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So I believe that my sleep quality and getting a good night's sleep supersedes the woman's desire for like plus 3% intimacy.
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My being able to get a good night's sleep supersedes the woman wanting plus 3% intimacy.
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What about like a king size bed that's still not big enough?
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I mean, if a guy's snoring really loud, though, I kind of agree.
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I love my fiancé, but he snores like a foghorn.
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So, and just to be clear, look, it's not an impossibility.
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But I do think that I've had instances where, you know, the girl comes over.
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And it's not like I'm kicking her out right after.
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but maybe we'll watch a movie afterwards and then it's like oh it's getting late time to sleep
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um i'm gonna get you set up in the guest room uh i've had a couple some women are totally cool
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with it they're like yep no problem got it other women give me so much flack they i've had women
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crash out on me over the guest room huh about the guest room yeah i'm like wanting to set them up in
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the other bedroom like i've literally i've had women crash out i've had women throw fits i've
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had women like on the verge of tears over this i kind of i kind of get that yeah
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no that's fucking retarded for me but i will feel like that hell yeah but okay so if i tell you if
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i tell you hey by the way it's not i'm not like well i think if it was using you for sex i'd be
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like just kicking you out of the house but um but if i tell the woman it's like it's not that i
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dislike you, but I, I do not get good sleep sharing a bed. And like, I'm going to be, I'm
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going to be, uh, let's say she's visiting me for a day, uh, two, three days. I'm going to be in a
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bad mood if I don't get good sleep. Um, I, I need to get good sleep for my work. So in that instance,
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look, it's okay for the woman to have a preference. The woman can obviously, and I'd say most women
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probably prefer to sleep in the same bed as a man um however women need to temper and women need to
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regulate their emotional response to that situation you can want a thing but then you shouldn't be
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challenging me on it you shouldn't be crashing out are you open about it up front is this like
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something you're up front about in the beginning like they know coming into it even if he wasn't
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And he was up front about it when they came over.
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I don't think it is something I've let people know ahead of time.
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But I don't think there's anything actually objectionable.
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I don't think I need to disclose to somebody beforehand, like, hey, by the way, this can
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This can be a revelation in that moment without any prior sort of, I don't know what the right
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prior disclosure yes i would say that so yeah the the woman should defer to me on this and look she
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can have a preference she could want to sleep with me in the bed but if i say it that's the
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end of the conversation but that's not submission though that's that's just you basically respecting
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your own boundary when it comes to submission i would define that as whether it's spending
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safety whether it comes to ultimate big home decisions well you defer to the man it's a
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smaller thing it is i said but well for someone it's a big thing a lot but it would well that's
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why i think you should be up front about it would be a lack of submission for a woman to argue with
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me about it and question it and cause friction and conflict because of this that would be a lack
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like the submissive thing would be to be like oh but i really like she could be like i really want
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to and then i'm like i'm sorry but i can't and she's like okay like that's okay if she does a
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little cutesy disappointed whatever you're disappointed i fucking get it but don't crash
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like i i'm not even exaggerating i've had women like i've had women like in the bed like oh my
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god oh like throwing a fucking fit over it and that's crazy i 100 agree but i still the reason
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i disagree on it being submission is because that's them disrespecting your emotional boundary
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that's not a matter of you controlling their life that's a matter of you having basically
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control over your own personal boundaries. But when it comes to submission, I would say the
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reason why, in my opinion, honestly fact, that you should defer to a man that you trust is because
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men are a bit more sensible when it comes to emotional impulses. Women don't really have a
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strong grasp as to the dangers that are around them, nor the spending habits that might be
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enticing to them. So I think having a man that you can defer to, and that's me having more money than
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the person I'm with, he's the one who ultimately decides when I can spend money because I know I
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have a thrifting habit so he's the one that keeps me safe he's the one that says I don't know about
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this I think you might get in trouble even though I might want to do something so I think that's
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ultimately submission though he makes less money yeah 100% because I trust his mind that's why
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that's why I love him is because I trust who he is he is my masculine counterpart where whenever
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I have faults as a woman he as a man can guide me and whenever he feels like he's not being
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like you know emotionally nurtured by this world I then as a woman can compliment him with my
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feminine traits and say you're the best person in the world yeah but so back to your thing though
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um the narrative against women and then there's some other framing that you you used you objected
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to the women should be submissive thing um yeah i mean i i don't actually see the problem with that
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i mean different views again like i said i just feel like culturally speaking there's a lot of
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differences against women in mexico usually they're more submissive than american women i
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don't know what you're talking about they're psychotic they'll stab you over a dream like it
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depends on your submission no no it's hold on it's latin american women this like toxic spicy
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latina thing or whatever that's fucking retarded but um latin american women are typically more
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traditional yeah they're more conservative they're more submissive than their american
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counterparts who are hyper-feminist. They are, but actually, you know, I feel like my, you know,
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the age that I share with a lot of, I'm Mexican or whatever, you know, no, like, we are like this,
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you know, we're kind of like, we're not submissive, we are, you know, very independent,
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and basically, yeah, and we also like a man that is masculine, you know, I know it's weird.
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why should men be masculine if you don't want to submit i don't it's the passion la toxic so what
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do men get so okay for you a man should provide protect he should be chivalrous he should be
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willing to die protecting you uh if we're allowed to say that men should do all these things what
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can men say women should what should women do i mean if we're talking about that i gave him
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his children he also gave you children yeah he contributed the genetic material to yeah he
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didn't give birth to them or raise them i was the one doing all the hard work for them okay so
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gender roles only exist within the confines of pregnancy it's not no it isn't that's it's not
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gender roles it's biology a man you're a woman's function is to give a man so just to be clear
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your position is as long as a woman gives a man children she can be a raging quarrelsome bitch
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But if we're boiling it down to he has to provide
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also referring to, again, I do a lot of things for my husband. I do a lot of, a lot of things
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that, you know, I feel like I say it's a 50, 50. I, the way he provides for me, the way
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he protects me, the way he's willing to take a bullet for me. I also am willing to do a
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lot of things for him. I take care of him. I provide for him. You know, I, he has a hard
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working woman, you know, he subsidizes your business. No, because again, we, it's, it's
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hours he's both of us okay so he work as many hours as you do on the business no he does not
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okay so you're primarily running it i run the business yeah he has his own he has his own
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wait how old are your kids uh i have a 14 year old and a nine year old um okay and uh
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when you're running your business is he taking care of the kids who's taking care of the kids
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no my parents your your parents well that's better than daycare but um
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i i think you'd probably be better uh if you were taking care of the kids as the mom i mean i
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usually do again since i'm a business owner i so let's just say i wake up i get my girls ready
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every morning i do like the general gender roles i get my get my girls ready i give my husband his
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lunch for the day i make lunch for my girls as well you know and then i drop them up to school
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i go to work you know from let's just have one that my girls are in school and then i go pick
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them up every day i make dinner for everybody so yeah i mean i feel like i fulfill a lot of
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those things for the for the sake of time i have to move it on um but uh okay going to you you said
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the rating the guests can be harsh yeah whenever you base like rate us after we rate ourselves
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do you think i was harsh today a little a little bit okay i think you should do it at the beginning
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and not because we have a human tendency to judge people even if you're not trying to you're just
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trying to judge it off looks you have a human tendency to judge off of someone's personality
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you should do it from the beginning not the no no brian's a professional i yeah okay i even if
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like if i'm not gonna like okay she's conservative and she agrees with me on everything i'm still
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gonna give her an unbiased as unbiased as i can uh rating i'm not gonna like give her a more
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positive rating because she agrees with me on shit like i'll just look at their looks and i'm not
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gonna like even if somebody rubs me the wrong like if a really attractive woman is on the show
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and she's just annoying as fuck i'm not gonna rate like rate her looks lower just because but um
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uh i guess moving off of that uh lise lisi lisi doing the laundry for you is crazy that's a
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disagreement that you have uh go into that i i do want to clarify is that on the first date that
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you've said that the first date they should do laundry or just like throughout yeah so the my
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framing is the first time she's over which could be the first time hanging out but uh yeah she
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should do laundry for me right away and cook and clean yeah right away i still i still think that's
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crazy why why well i don't know that's wife behavior and what are you doing right away
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in return for the woman paying for the dinner i'm dead serious so you have a girl over a 30
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dinner i thought she's cooking the dinner yeah so well yeah hold on there's a couple questions
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that have been thrown out there so what what was i don't know i'll go one by one i guess
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i don't remember what i asked but to be fair with my disagreement i don't expect people to pay on
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the first date if i did expect that then i could see maybe like you gotta clean for them or do
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something maybe not well i don't even i it's for me it's not a transactional thing it's like
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i did this so you do this that's it's it should she should want to she should just want to do it
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i don't want to have to like remind her i don't want to have to like bully her into doing it
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Now, you guys might really hate this that I wanted as a man.
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But if you actually wanted to like massively boost your success rate, I know some of you are in relationships.
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I'm genuinely telling you, uh, offer to do it. Like the first time you go to a guy's house,
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offer to do something for him. Maybe it's not the laundry. Maybe you could be like,
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can I tidy up for you a little bit? Can I, how can I be of service, sir, slash master?
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How can I be of service to you? And I'm telling you, you might think it's cringe. And look,
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most guys might be taking a little bit of back because it's like, well, I've never had a guy
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do this, but they'll appreciate it. And in their side agent at that point in the guy's mind, yeah,
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it could be in the guy's mind. Uh, he's thinking like, Whoa, who is this girl? Like that's,
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that's dope. Like that's cool. Now I'm not saying all, some guys might think it's weird,
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whatever, but I'm, I'm telling you, try it out. And, uh, that's going to be a, a lot of guys are
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going to look at that and like you way more. And look, if you're dealing, especially if you're
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dealing with like uh if this is a guy you really really like and you want to land him you want to
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you want to have him you want to keep him pussy ain't enough you gotta offer more you gotta offer
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more i think the first date is crazy but maybe like the first week like my fiance and i like
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we we were uh did it basic we just went out to pizza and then after a week of constantly hanging
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out i was like hey your car is dirty do you want me to clean this out for you sure he appreciated
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it the back seat was literally covered in just garbage and i just removed everything and he was
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really thankful for i do think that the first date is uh it's actually not a good thing brian
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because if a girl is in your house or apartment on the first date that's not a good sign aren't
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you worried about women chasing you for clout too like by doing all that like oh it's brian atlas
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oh they're gonna do my laundry for clout i mean the thing is is like i've had i've dated uh i've
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started the podcast back in 2022 uh i've dated women throughout that time i've had relationships
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and whatnot and uh women who date me get zero clout like if you're dating me you're not you're
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not getting any publicity you're not on the show plus i'm not dating like the type of women i'm
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attracted to and at least the ones that come to me typically they're not like on social media
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they're not content creators they're not influencers so um real i mean as as far as i know
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like they haven't received any clout because i i mean i would never a girl i'm dating i could be
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in a relationship for a girl with a year she's never on the radar to anybody she's i'm keeping
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her under wraps bro if i have my girlfriend on the show and like people can find her she's going
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to be probably harassed to probably more than me how big's his dick does it what does he do
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is he weird blah blah like no if i'm dating a woman she's not she's not ever getting you
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wouldn't even know plus i would honestly say when people think i'm a fucking virgin like i've never
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had a girlfriend or whatever they wouldn't know like i shit i could have been dating somebody for
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but like for one year two years when it comes nobody would know when it comes to brian standard
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of like a girl doing his laundry that's pretty much the equivalent of a girl saying i want a
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man who's a gentleman basically yeah but i'm also thinking like okay so if you say like hypothetically
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you go over to this guy's house and you do this thing for him isn't he going to expect that more
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and if he expects him more is it going to be a way to like take advantage of you because you did
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this thing for him are you saying it or as a way like you you've been you've been talking to this
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girl for a while and then this is her first night over and she does this but that's the thing if she
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has that skill set then she's independent in her own resources and if he's not taking advantage
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then she can leave and he'll be hurt by that because he lost someone that was valuable to him
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that's cool too i think my answer comes from if you live with somebody then yeah i think that he
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can expect that from you to like i don't know clean up after him or something and i've my
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current relationship i lived with him before i we got together so like i started out doing that
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well i can see it doesn't get complicated well i think it's fair that i also provide a bit more
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context here uh this pretty much will not work for normal men like it will not work like you
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can't go on a dating app and it's not a one night stand thing well hold on no you can't go on a
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dating app or meet a girl at a bar now if she voluntarily does it because like that's just
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innate to her, you're not going to have the leverage for most in most situations to either
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have the expectation or ever like have this be a thing where the first time the girl comes over to
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your house. I mean, you know, you could try, you come, you, you might be able to do like a team
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laundry thing where it's like, okay, let's fold it together. But I need to provide some important
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context ever since i started this podcast uh now i've shot my shot here and there and so i've i've
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shot my shot and i have less leverage in that situation uh the majority of the women i've dated
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since 2022 have all contacted me so that's a very different dynamic you guys should be aware of and
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i i suppose i should uh so clout well because they know you from your podcast why would they
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contact you otherwise well yeah so it's like when when they're i don't want to frame it as them
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being the pursuer but if like they're reaching out to you you have more leverage yeah and you
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can set like okay here's my like hundred question girlfriend application uh if i can fill it out
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you know and so you have more leverage and uh so in that instance then i can kind of dictate
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terms a bit better if they're reaching out to me and the majority of the women i've dated
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uh in the past like four years or whatever they've all reached out to me all right i rescind my
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disagreement based off of you can hold that standard because because you are who you are
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but i would also say something well i'm not just to be clear i don't think i'm like some
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massive a-list celebrity big shot it's just but they're reaching out to me when you have more
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options you can be a little bit more i would also say if i've been if i've been psychoanalyzing
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brian just a little bit like all of his like tendencies all of his requests are things where
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it's just like i want a woman to respect me respect me respect me he confuses submission
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with respect like he's asking for bare minimum this entire time it is bare minimum so i'm like
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wait a minute like you're not actually asking for submission you're just asking for a woman to
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recognize your needs and oftentimes if they're the ones reaching out to you it's because they're
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like putting you in this character mindset that you're not a real human being but some idea or
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abstraction to them that'll satisfy their own needs basically okay i i want to also just to
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be clear i do want a submissive woman just to be clear but do you can you explain how that would
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be without you just saying i want my needs respected but where you're actually being the
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leader like how are you guiding her in life because everything you've listed is like oh yeah
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sure sure well i mean uh how about this right so i would want a woman who's not posting provocative
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photos on instagram i'd want a woman who's not wearing provocative clothing that's not
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submission that's just bare respect to some let's talk about clothing hold on i i mean i do think it
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does fall under the purview of submission so if she otherwise wants to go out to a nightclub
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with her single female friends and i tell her uh no and then she's like okay that would be
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submission that would be respect respect not submission okay so why don't you then if we if
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i'm having a misunderstanding of what submission is i think it's just that yeah submission is where
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you're guiding give me an example of a scenario in which a woman would be submissive i gave an
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example with my own relationship where i defer to my like my significant other with finances
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even though i'm the one who makes them more money i defer to him on finances and safety if i want to
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do something and he says this is not for my good benefit i'll listen to him why why could she not
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defer to me she would also be deferring to me in terms of clothing if you're exactly but that's
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what i'm saying if she's going out dressing provocatively that's just a disrespect to
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your relationship that's not her submitting that's her just disrespecting you same thing
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with her going out to the club that's not submission that's her wanting to just it's
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basically no no but it's like hold on if she if she acts asks me this also i think you have to
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take into consideration there's a degree of societal conditioning and brainwashing yes
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uh and so i think i think sometimes you got to break somebody out of that and be like no this
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isn't like perhaps they were on the wrong path this is not how you should be maneuvering uh
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through the world and uh once again though i can understand how you can interpret that as submission
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but once again it's like me saying i want to tell a guy like oh don't do don't go out to the clubs
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don't hang out with your boys when you're going to like the strip clubs or whatever that's not me
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like obeying him that's me basically laying out a bare minimum common sense relationship
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sure i and i agree that that should be to some degree uh bare minimum submission is like i am
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going to put my life in your hands because you're the one who's going to give me who's going to take
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the bullet for me and i don't want to do something that would increase those chances his example
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right there where he's like hey i don't want you to go out with your single female friends
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and her saying okay yes i won't do that that's her submitting to his request she is submissive
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different. If they're single friends, they're typically
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going to be the ones to poke holes in the relationship
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Now, I would say that it would be perhaps my job
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in an effort to protect her and the relationship
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And she would defer to me, and that would be submissive.
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and do simulated acts that are very degenerate and gratuitous?
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Likewise, if you're leading her, there's certain boundaries that are just common sense.
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You shouldn't have to guide a woman away from that.
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Not even a Christian one, a materialist one, where if she's going out, that's a threat to your material relationship.
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Where it's like, this shouldn't be a concern I have in the relationship.
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If I'm guiding you, it's in matters of finances or in matters of safety or in matters of whatever.
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But if you're going out, putting our relationship in jeopardy, but it's not her physical safety that necessarily men are concerned about if she goes to a club or goes with single friends.
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If she goes to a club, I am concerned with her physical safety.
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But the bigger issue I think a lot of men have is infidelity when she goes to the club or when she's with her single friends.
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When it comes to safety, that's just going out in general.
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There's a greater risk in like a nightclub scenario or party scenario where there's alcohol involved.
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i think sa should be the risk not infidelity because if she's the type of woman to cheat then
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i feel like you don't want to be with her no if you don't trust her but then she's not loyal
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she's got a bad character you don't have to go to a club there is like there is opportunity
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it's disrespectful opportunity yeah but like sa no i i said like the risk and the reason no what's
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sa oh sexual assault oh it's like rape serious yeah well it could be even less than that but
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that's what i'm saying is that if you're going out to a club where it's clearly dating oriented
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there's alcohol flowing your friends are single they're going to encourage you to make mistakes
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because typically single women are going to head and peck your relationship that's disrespectful
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to the relationship if she's going out and basically like living her hunter s thompson
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life driving like 100 miles on las vegas strip like yeah at that point you could say like sweetie
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like submit to me you're kind of crazy but if she's going out doing things that are going to
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harm the fidelity of the relationship that's a different equation i don't understand why you're
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disagreeing with brian so if a woman were to go out with her friends and not tell him at all that
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would be disrespectful right and then let's say he were to say hey i do not want you to do that
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she's then prompted like hey i don't my man does not want me to do this that would be a
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non-submissive woman the reason i'm disagreeing with brian is because i want him to have higher
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standards he's conflating submission with bare minimum i'm quite certain that brian has the
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highest standards of almost any man if he's if he's having to articulate why it is that he wants
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his own bed at night and then women are crashing out on him that's emotional hostility that's
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basically being disrespected that's not submission that's just having a basic emotional boundaries
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wanting to be respected if the inverse were to happen where it's a woman saying listen sweetie
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you know i just don't want to share a bed tonight and the guy was like okay he would leave but if
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if he were to say no i'm not going to do this it would be seen as hostile and toxic wait wait
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yet that's not acknowledged i agree well hold on i agree with brian because i don't like sleeping
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in the same bed as people either so i agree with him there however i do also think that the no bed
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thing could be a huge deal breaker for someone and it's just something that you should put out
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before you bring someone over just so they don't have the the the because then you're just giving
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yourself a headache with her crash outs so it's just a good thing to put out there like hey this
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is I don't really like you know sharing beds or whatever I mean it's just like that way you're not
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also ruining you're also not like wasting your time too you're not wasting your time you're not
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dealing with the crash out you're not wasting her time because it could be a huge deal breaker
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Okay, so I agree with you that it's probably a good idea to preemptively let somebody know that this is something that you want or whatever.
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However, if it isn't disclosed, the woman should still acquiesce to your boundary, to your determination on this issue and not fucking freak out about it.
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Well, I just think it's like they get a little blindsided because you just like had sex with them.
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they're all emotional and now it's like you're dismissing them women are emotional yeah really
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so yeah you got to regulate you got to regulate your emotional response to that and uh not like
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just have a make a scene basically no not make a scene i just i can understand why they feel
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dismissed a little bit women want women will submit when you make them feel comfortable
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if you're not reject they maybe feel what really is important is that a woman doesn't submit to uh
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just any man because let's say a man is like hey i want to be a cuck like destiny or something
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right like you wouldn't want a woman to do that that's not a good woman you want a woman who's
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submissive to god right and if a man has godly leadership she should be submissive to that man
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and his instructions so to be really specific about it a woman should be submissive to god and
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godly male leadership so uh okay another disagreement we have hannah here too aggressive
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with religious views i assume that relates to andrew wilson just because i'm not particularly
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religious uh be a little more kind do you want to elaborate on that i think if you're taking like a
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religious approach especially with like only fan girls like when they're just like you're a hoe
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you're a whore you're i'm like i don't i don't do that i've well i've seen clips before where like
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is it andrew you asked it was the question yeah but the andrew's not here so like well i just
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answered the question oh okay i mean he does come on the podcast a lot so he's tight well i mean
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are you are you religious or um i grew up very very mormon but currently i got excommunicated
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oh okay we'll talk about that in a moment and then i got re-baptized by my ex-husband
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so what's your current status though um i'm not active lds i do you believe in god i think so
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but i'm gonna be honest it's kind of like a mind f like when you go from like one extreme in a
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religion to like to like questioning like lds culture in general now it's like okay well what
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is real but i still like would love to have some type of like christian base it's just it's like
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very confusing i guess okay um well yeah i mean as far as andrew's disagreements with
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sex workers for example uh i mean sex work is completely incompatible with lds it's
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incompatible with christianity it's incompatible with uh is islam but what's the what is it i
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don't know i could be saying strong like what john 3 15 or something it's like god came to the world
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to condemn that like not to condemn people but to save them it's like so when you're really that
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harsh with people do you actually think they're open to hearing your i mean wasn't jesus like
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with the pharisees he was like knocking tables over yes like so i mean this idea that christians
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and now you're saying it's not really Christ like
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Well, that's the thing, is that Andrew Wilson has true, righteous passion inside of himself.
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But what Hannah is addressing is this wounded zeal where one of the virtues of love and inner peace is kindness.
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Where if someone is being cruel to you, you turn the other cheek and give them kindness.
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The thing is, Angelica, is that we're all different.
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I actually just read this, and I think it was 1 Corinthians.
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Have you met that man? He pops us in every two seconds and calls women bitches all the time.
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At this point, it might as well be Andrew Wilson.
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If you're not wanting him to judge you, why are you judging him?
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I know, but I'm like, I'm not going to judge someone for judging because then I'm like
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Angelica, it says in the first Corinthians that we're all different parts of the body
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Some of us are going to be like legalistic and saying, hey, we're going to go into this
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That's a reference to when Jesus went into a temple and basically flipped over a bunch of people's tables and whatnot and got very mad at them.
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But, like, some of us are meant to be very assertive and dominant.
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And, like, the table flippers, essentially, that just kind of call out the bullshit, be very blunt about it and say, you know, we're not being nice here.
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And so none of us can be Christ, but we're all different parts of the body of Christ.
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So we'll have different characteristics of Christ.
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I understand that text, I agree with it, because the way I came to Christianity was just like that tough love, and I appreciate that tough love, that's why I like Andrew Wilson.
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But at the same time, there is room for criticism, where something that he can improve on is, if you're swearing, it clouds your mental clarity.
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That's why the Bible says to be careful of perverse speech.
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So if you're calling a woman a hoe and all of this jazz, you're no longer approaching it from a Christian perspective.
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If you call a woman a whore, and then you also call a woman a promiscuous woman, they have the exact same meaning.
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Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I think I caught the tail end of this.
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But I think Jesus was referring, referred to people as vipers.
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That's a different group that you don't want to mention right now.
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But like back in, so historically, you'd agree with me that there's like a, I don't know, euphemism treadmill?
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wrong but like um insults evolve devolve over time so like back in when jesus was alive to
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call somebody a viper is like massive like super insulting like it's it's probably like the
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equivalent of calling a guy like a pussy or a that's not perverse speech though i mean you
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just gave two no but wait what perverse speech is like vulgar where it's like at the pussy or
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Okay, we're going to get into the other things of the questionnaire here.
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Shona, women do not have equal rights to men in the USA, to which you agree.
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i can't get an abortion either in texas did you know that did you know that i cannot get an
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abortion i do not have the right to get an abortion in texas and a lot of other states
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which have banned abortion did you know that oh my god he doesn't have the right there's no way
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that the issue behind abortion or like the the problem that initially occurs as to why a woman
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gets abortion that will never apply to a man but okay but but but so the framing of the question
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relates to equal rights well right now as it stands i'm gonna say draft aside because that
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doesn't actively affect any men right now it's not been implemented it slavery happens a long
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time ago does that mean it doesn't have an impact today slavery doesn't actively affect black people
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right now but there's like really why are they poor that wait why are black people poor well
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i'm just saying there's there's ultimate and there's proximate causes okay but but why are
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they what's approximate wait what's approximate cause like things like redlining pro that's what
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I'm asking what the definition of proximate is.
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Okay, and you just said redlining, which happened dozens of years ago.
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So that's still something that would affect them today.
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You realize your logic does not follow through.
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Right now, okay, all I was trying to say with the abortion thing is as it stands today,
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and draft aside, that's like a whole other topic.
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And if you want to say, oh, draft invalidates what you're saying, sure you can.
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He didn't bring the draft up, but men don't have any reproductive rights.
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Really quick, Natalia, I think for the gift of 20 memberships.
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But, I mean, just to make it super quick, so you could say that there are abortion rights, which would primarily apply to women.
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i will say in this case biologically assigned at female at birth yeah but what if the woman
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wants to abort a child that the man wants to keep that's his baby like then he has no say in it
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it's her body though just this leads into a whole abortion debate yeah what is what is what i'm
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studying maybe later we can have to deal with she's talking about his mental health so that's
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exactly what it has to do with his mental health yes how would it affect his mental health if she
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decides to have an abortion he doesn't want it would affect her mental health too and it affects
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her body so therefore there's more effects yeah but is his does his mental health now i'm not
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saying it doesn't matter i'm just saying you do that's exactly what i know a lot of it's not
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what if it was allowed for him to take her to court to make sure that he could have his baby
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she doesn't have to take care of the baby he can take hold of the baby when did i say his mental
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health doesn't matter you just did i didn't his mental health matters his mental health matters
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and mental health matters it's still her body and i still don't believe a fetus is you're a
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an epilator well then how does a baby grow whatever you want to say how does how does it grow oh my
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god we're getting so off topic uh here can you read this show now they want to confuse the diff
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between getting on her knees looking up while giving oral versus doing laundry without being
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asked which is the same only when a man asks to do the things no matter what and she agrees is
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submissive never understood why this is so hard to understand i guess we didn't fully finish off the
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the laundry thing i guess i could add two more things really quick then i'll move it on
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uh you might think it's ridiculous that i have an expectation on the first time a girl comes over
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for her to do my laundry i think it may be in total like one load of laundry i mean there's
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machines that do it so folding is probably the primary time sink uh it maybe takes a woman 20
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minutes tops to to do it uh in order for a man to take a woman out on a date let's say a guy
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Let's say it's a younger guy, and he's going to pay for the date, and he makes $20 an hour, and he takes her to fucking Chili's, and they get a drink each, appetizer, main course, dessert, plus tip.
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Now, let's say, okay, only $50 of that is for her.
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So the math would work out to something like just for her portion to take her out to $100 Chili's date.
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he has to work, not even factoring in taxes, he has to work two and a half hours if he's just
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making $20 flat. It's more actually, well, I'm not including in his portion of the bill or whatever.
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So if, when women say men should pay for first dates, if you take a girl out to a first date
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and it's a hundred bucks, which I don't think is that unrealistic. Maybe you could get away with
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something you could go to get burgers for 40 bucks something like you could get something
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cheaper let's say it's even 20 bucks you spend on costco food court yeah say you spend shit you
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can get we can keep going really really cheap but i don't think it's unreasonable like a mid-tier
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mid-tier restaurant you might spend 100 bucks for the both of you uh 50 for her portion you
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make 20 an hour let's not even factor in tax that's two and a half hours of work to take her
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out on the date so it's like if that's the entailment of men should pay on first dates
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you have to work for two and a half hours why can't i be like okay first time you come over
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to my house i'd want a woman to work 20 minutes for me do you lay out like hey when you come over
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i want you to do my laundry or is this like a test they should just do it they should just do
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it why don't you just pay out of the kindness of your own heart maybe wait a month or so for the
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laundry. Why should I pay? What do you mean pay? For the date? Well, what kind of date is it? Is it
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like a coffee shop or are you taking her to fine dining? Because if you're taking her to fine
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dining, I could see why you would want your laundry being done maybe. Well, I mean, even if
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you go to a mid-tier restaurant, you could easily pay $100. But why is it out of the kindness of
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my heart, I need to pay for the date? Why can't out of the kindness of her heart, she should do
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my laundry to defend brian's did you want did you want to take her out huh you asked her out
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that's incredible how do you ask her to do your laundry after a date like do you just he's not
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exing though that's what he's saying oh that's wait most women won't even know they have to do
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this like that's why i just say communication they should want women women oftentimes have
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expectations that are unspoken of for men and if they don't deliver those expectations they will
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break up with them because they get the ick and they won't explain or communicate that which is
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also a subject that's been brought up so likewise brian is basically saying i don't need to
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communicate these issues if they come up in the relationship i don't need to be transparent 24
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7 so as to get you to oblige to some contractual relationship i think both should be transparent
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it saves both of you a headache lay out the groundwork this is my must-haves this is my
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these are my but do you do you guys do the same thing so you're saying oh brian you should
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disclose this do you disclose uh like do women disclose if a woman has an expectation that the
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should pay for the first date do women like check in beforehand and are they like yes by the way
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no i just want to make sure you're paying for the date i don't don't do that i do like women
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don't do that they just expect it no i do it they just expect it because you're expecting to pay
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because you make more money i do it because that's what i want i want someone to provide
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and not lead chocolate i was just gonna say like obviously like i understand why you're saying oh
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well if i don't disclose it like but like women like they don't disclose the whole date thing
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right but i think your expectation in this case just happens to be a little more unconventional
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whereas it's a lot more common he's kind of just saying i'm still talking whereas it's a lot paused
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okay i'm letting you know that i'm still making my point i just think it's a lot more common for
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men to uh pay for a woman's date so i completely respect your preference and i understand why you
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want it to be at your expectation given your preferences and what i understand about you so
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far but you know sometimes you don't always have to chime in but what if what if you have a woman
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who she would be like totally willing to do all those things for you she just didn't think of it
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in the moment because it's not as common of a thing to come up for a woman to do a man's laundry
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on the first day yeah so i do agree that i'm just trying to say it's not as common it's a bit
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unorthodox and like super uncommon uh like probably 99.999 percent of men don't have this
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expectation at all even if she's conservative and like about everything you're about yeah sure i
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think most men are just like basically um happy to be uh worker ants for women which i reject uh
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i i kind of reject that uh setup to be honest well that's the other thing about conservative
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women excuse me there's this paradigm that's unfortunately like once again as i've referenced
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before me me me where conservative women they have certain expectations of men that are
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conservative-veined. There's liberal women who have certain
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expectations of men that are liberal-veined, but they still have
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expectations of men, and they're not thinking about
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what they're going to show up or provide for them.
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So that's the issue that's going on with modern
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in this conversation right now. No, she's talking. So that's kind of my
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issue. It doesn't matter if a woman has conservative
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The issue is, you know, a woman can be liberal
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problems into the relationships by saying oh well why don't you do this one role it's like if they're
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meeting each other's needs that's all that's needed for a relationship i agree and i think
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that's why expectations can be such a tricky thing to like uh shaggy thank you shaggy donated
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two hundred dollars appreciate it man me and my wife have been together for 12 years me 42 her 46
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she has always been full submissive to me and her friends are jealous of the joy she has all the
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time she lives spoiled three years listen one x tip chair one is uh i said yo shaggy thank you
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for the tts man i appreciate it thank you thank you dude wait chair one what i'm lying about
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andrew wilson i just said he pops in and he's called woman derogatory names before and i think
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both of those things are true like is that the i'm not saying that's actually a terrible thing
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it's just like he he consumes nicotine oh my god crime of the century i don't know every time i've
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So Brian was mentioning it, that it's like the willingness of the girl to do that.
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So if a guy on a first date didn't buy you flowers, you'd be like, okay, whatever.
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But then you say, hey, I kind of wanted to get flowers.
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He walks out of his seat, goes and buys the flowers.
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It wouldn't really mean as much because he wasn't really intending to do that until you brought it up as kind of like a requirement, right?
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That's why I would never ask a man to get flowers
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Because then suddenly it does take away the meaning
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Exactly because it's like he should be willing to do that
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Right and a woman should be willing to do a man's
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Laundry if the man spent two and a half hours of his
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Right but you can't be telepathic like you can't just know
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I just feel like that's something more personal
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We're also assuming he slept with these women
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can i ask you guys can i ask you guys a question uh so i think most people um unless you're like
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pretty christian or i mean you don't necessarily have to be religious i think most people fuck
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pretty quickly um am i am i the bad guy here who who wants a little wholesome laundry done
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whereas like other guys intention hold on but other guys intention is like he wants his cock
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down fucking your taunts like he wants his penis his member into the crevices he wants to he wants
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to blast he wants to blast up in inside of you he wants to blast on you he wants to do a var
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variances of various sexual acts um with and around in and around your mouth and it's like
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I just want to pulse like a woman to just be all, be all cutesy in the laundry room,
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Meanwhile, this other guy you're on a date with wants to like choke you and have like
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I'm not, look, I'll do a gentle one if you ask for it nicely.
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I think you have, I think your expectations are valid and you're not wrong in them.
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Have you ever asked a man to buy you flowers? I washed my
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fine. That's your preference. I just think that
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That's what you expect. Maybe she'd be down for it, but maybe
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she thought it was weird. No, so I do communicate it.
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willing to do acts of service are you going to work on my garden you really do that's a little
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yes i can't lie no i like that actually like that that's weird yeah no look here's the thing right
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so okay if it helps you if it helps you that's cool love languages by the way you really can
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mostly only leverage this if she's reaching out to you oh hi okay here's my girlfriend application
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fill this out one of these days i'm going to show the girlfriend application but it's the secret
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sauce i don't want to you know i i gotta keep it to me for a little bit but you know you said you
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got a hella woman reaching out to you but in multiple relationships i'm not gonna hate that
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like good for you well i mean uh yeah yeah i just never heard of that before yeah women dm me and
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like whatever and it's not like i don't meet up with all of them but uh yeah the girlfriend
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application i'm like will you do acts of service will you cook will you clean will you you know
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that's your love language i think something about that just feels slightly less organic
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i agree it's not organic but if like 10 women dm me a week like okay when you're at that level
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hold on it's like also like even if it was like one woman a week or whatever i don't have time
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to like organically like it's a lot of questions and these are things i care about no you're just
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Organically, it would take hours to, like, siphon this out of a woman organically.
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I've had some women be like, Brian, I'm not filling that out.
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I'm like, back to the streets, you go, I guess.
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It caught me off guard, but when you're this popular and you've got this many girls, like.
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In general, the social contract has been broken.
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So if you're going to be engaging in a romantic sexual relationship with someone who might misinterpret and crash out,
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like, for example, in Brian's case, the whole bedroom situation,
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you're going to want to have some insurance to make sure she's not going to extrapolate something into something much bigger.
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You're going to want to be more concise and thorough from the start.
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Modernity has totally warped women's perception of what's degrading.
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like all the sex what did you say i modernity has entirely warped women's perception on what's
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degrading because talking about the sex acts like i think some of those things are far more degrading
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than you know washing laundry washing laundry or any number of other things i mean we can also have
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the sex acts but laundry too you know what i mean i have no problem doing a man's laundry if i'm with
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them i just think if you're expecting it like first night over or whatever it should just be
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oh wait who said related to that who said uh you want uh someone said something along along the
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lines of either that's like wifey behavior but she's not your wife or like you want a mom somebody
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said that i for i used the word wife you use the word like the that's the wife stuff yeah if you
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want to become a wife you got to do the wifey stuff even before like for example imagine if a
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guy was like you know what i'm not i don't want to protect i don't want to provide when we're
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married then i'll pay for dates i think a lot of women would have an issue with with a man holding
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back on his roles until marriage until further on in the relationship if for most women if it's like
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oh i'm not going to pay now but like three months six months deep then i'll start paying for dates
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i think a lot of women are going to have an issue with that that's a black pill position to have
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though because it's like there's no there's no skills to basically show a man like these are
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the skills you need these are the skills that a woman needs in a relationship nowadays you
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basically have to find someone who's on the same page as you and say we'll grow together in our
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femininity or masculinity and complement each other in what we don't currently have it's not
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sometimes a woman is like a horse though like you gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta
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you gotta train her a little bit it's not her fault it's not her fault society feminism
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well my first point is how can a woman be a homemaker
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making up for I assume that you're working class
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you have to make up for it because the man can't make that income and afford a home on his own
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so that's a form of submission um uh so anyways i gotta move it on but oh the bow video play the
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bow video super quick then we have a fun segment we have the ai segment so okay it's going to be
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bow then okay this is my ex-girlfriend and i show this video so what i did was i um this is a
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tutorial video you know in a video game how there's a tutorial i thought you know why why tell
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when i can show so this is something i you know like have you ever had a job at a fast food
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restaurant and like they sit you in the back room with like a tablet i guess the tablet now
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or like a tv and they put in a vcr tape and they're like hey well i guess it wouldn't nowadays
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it wouldn't be that but there's like here's a vcr they put in the vcr tape uh and then vhs tape i
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guess i should say and uh you know they show you the the instructional video i do that with with
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women you know why i don't want to have to constantly tell like use my you know i get
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hoarse sometimes that's why i drink so much water i don't have to like walk every woman through it
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so i'm just like i i have an instructional video i show them go ahead play roll the clip
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roll so you do communicate yeah so boom huge bow she has to bow for me as soon as i come home
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uh that's respect right she's got a bow now this is sort of like rage bait no this is real and
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then like laundry of course and then look at this this was after a long podcast day uh she has my
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food my dinner ready cracks open a beer look at how attentive she is look at how attentive she
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stirs my noodles for me and i actually dumped her you see those tomatoes there i dumped her because
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um why would i just want raw tomatoes disgusting yeah yeah so i show this to all my future
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girlfriends uh well hopefully they watch the show so that i don't even have to show it to them
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they just know what to do but yeah i do want a woman to bow for me um you're joking
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that was the deal breaker for you tomatoes the raw tomatoes the raw tomatoes
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what do you mean why should a woman yeah why what are you married right yeah did your husband get
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it at least three times. Why did you just throw the tomatoes at him?
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This motherfucker's been married three times?
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No, he has asked me several times to remarry him.
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So you're already married and he asks you to marry him.
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He gets it down on his knee. He gives you another ring?
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Well, she's also just saying that she's married.
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I'm not wearing mine either because I was afraid I would lose it.
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I'm not wearing mine either because I was afraid I would lose it.
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impregnate a woman you have to be married to her
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to marriage but i definitely have a secular objection to marriage so but i can have i can
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stay with the same woman for my entire life never been married and i can definitely get women
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pregnant what's the objection what's the oh my god i mean it's a huge can of worms uh it's massive
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financial liability i don't give a about a woman's money that means i'm willing to date a woman who's
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essentially works at chick-fil-a or less i guess uh i'm a high earner so no pre you don't believe
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It wouldn't even really protect me to that much.
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But wouldn't getting married to a woman offer her security?
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Marriage just doesn't make sense if you're an atheist.
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If you're not married to the woman and you have children, would you expect that the children have your last name?
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also how do you think your children will look i mean how do you think your children will feel
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when you're not married to their mom don't you think what yeah i mean that that's weird
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uh i don't think that's weird yeah they're gonna grow i mean my kids will definitely ask me my
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kids definitely will ask me why you're not married to my daddy like you know that's actually things
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that get thrown in school or something you know there's a lot of events at school but uh we're
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together we're together and yeah i don't anticipate it being a problem just not legally married
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basically you don't believe in actually marrying a girl if she's richer than me i'll think about it
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i'll probably do it so just on the legal aspect you're fine with like religious socially marrying
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a woman if you uh i'm saying this is my wife you just don't have the paperwork done like would you
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ever give a ring yeah i guess that's acceptable huh would you ever like offer her a ring as a
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commitment without actually i mean i'm not getting down on one knee but i might just be like
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we're at mcdonald's or something i'm just like whose ring is that i'm just like
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there you go it's a hard sell i guess we can fucking do it it's a super hard sell from a
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secular perspective so like i totally get that like my only kind of sell from that angle is that
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cohabitating couples, even ones who have kids within the first five years of like their children's
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life are four times more likely to split up than if they're actually married? Well, I mean,
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the statistics, while they might be true, I don't really think that they would apply to me.
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You're the exception. I mean, he kind of is. So it's like, so just because, okay, so let me
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like this, like just because the, the statistics are, you know, whatever, whatever the statistics
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show, that doesn't mean that in your particular instance, that that is necessarily the probability
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of you getting divorced. Yeah. So, uh, but I mean, I don't think it's, um, I don't know. Plus there's
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plenty, there's plenty of divorce among married couples too. Okay. I agree with the no married
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thing i probably never want to get married again and i said that earlier and i'm sorry tilt your
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mic down um and riley looked at me like oh you're 41 you're never getting married that's why
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yes and then with you he's cheering you on that you don't want to do that so i feel like that's
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a little bit of a double standard here it's okay for you to not want i'm not cheering that on you
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just said you just said oh well he's kind of got the upper hand yes i am a christian yes
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that's why that's why i was fine with him not legally marrying a woman because what is marriage
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in the sense of the state of california it's like two guys can get secular marriage is retarded yeah
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it is retarded so stupid that's why i was asking i'm like okay good just making sure that you're
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fine with socially marrying the woman giving her a ring staying with her forever right and then not
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yeah not financially well i don't know about the like the the ceremonial stuff um now i don't know
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it depends if she's a Christian woman, although I assume she, Christian women may have some aversion
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to marrying someone who's more secular. Although, to be fair, I have pro-Christian sentiment, and I
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believe that marriage makes sense from a religious perspective, but the legal liabilities, I mean,
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even for Christian men, cannot be ignored, but there's a religious calling to get married, which
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makes sense and is justified but from a purely secular perspective it's stupid um and then like
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i don't know to answer your question uh okay well we didn't we didn't get the government involved
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in our relationship but she loves me i love her if there wasn't a government nothing changes
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fuck the government they don't get to dictate what how we feel about each other and you should
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not be um my i suppose to my children you should not feel any uh less than because the the uh your
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friends at school or whatever uh their their parents are married uh and the state has uh
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sovereignty over their relationship so my question here is at what point do you call someone your
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wife if you're not legally married like i'd probably just call her my girlfriend not your
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partner partner's kind of gay to be honest that is very i agree i actually agree with that i agree
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to be fair though at that point to be fair like i i think partner is uh i don't really some people
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have objection to the partner term or whatever but like because i don't want to get married that
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could be a good descriptive word to uh you know girlfriend does seem a bit sophomoric in a way
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actually i have a great way you're okay with her also calling you he's my boyfriend not my husband
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he's my man he's my he's my master whatever what the hell no i don't know yes in the bible it says
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to call your husband lord actually oh there you go wait brian don't you believe in separation of
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the church and state though like uh no i'd be fine with christian nationalism but do you recognize
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that that's the government that exists right now like uh yeah our government our government is
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influenced by judeo-christian values and was founded upon judeo-christian oh hold on wait
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wait you're opening up way too many okay she's like no i don't know what separation of church
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and state it means that we don't have a theocracy our government isn't governed by religion but what
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does that have to do is getting married if it's marriage is something legally recognized by the
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government oh natalia and if our government is not run by religion then the definition of marriage
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shouldn't be like purely religious either and secular marriage should therefore be fine and
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there shouldn't be a huge problem with that wait wait so when i say secular marriage is retarded
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i acknowledge that people can get married absent like a religious ceremony um when i say it's
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stupid or retarded absent like christianity and all that right no wait what i would disagree
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absent christianity well so so wait what's your question well i'm saying okay you said that
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secular marriage is stupid or whatever you like you're disavowed yeah i don't see the point of it
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like what's the actual point of it well like when you get married there's like legal implications
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and things that follow right like in terms of i don't know i'm not i'm not that old but like tax
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stuff like health insurance stuff and also like the level of like commitment when it comes to
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like a marriage like calling someone your wife there is a lot more of a serious implication than
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saying that they're your girlfriend and to have that level of commitment and trust and partnership
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is beyond just saying oh this is my girlfriend for life even though like we're not religious
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and we don't want to take it to the next step yeah yeah i mean i i suppose um it's creates a
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an additional barrier to separation uh i frankly i don't think that a relationship should be built
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on we're going to stay together because it's going to be difficult for us to get out of a
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relationship we don't otherwise want to be in that seems like a terrible foundation for a relationship
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that is sort of the commitment argument is it's harder for us to untangle ourselves
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from each other therefore we should stay together it's more that's fucking it's more so we made a
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more serious promise and commitment to each other yeah what's the point of that if the guy ends up
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to stay together and to have to stay together forever what do you mean it's a family if they
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want a family if they want but so i i would i would say though i actually think in a situation
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where the man is the breadwinner and i actually can sort of like looking at the chessboard you
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guys might be able to turn this around on me if you see the chess pieces um so from my perspective
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if i'm willing to date a woman who has makes little or no money uh one of the objections to
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me getting married is that this would actually create uh an incentive tour for her to go towards
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ending the relationship because there's a financial upside whereas if she breaks up with me like it's
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the end of the relationship but then she's got no money and now she hasn't worked for 10 years
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she stayed at home with the kids so what's her incentive uh what what do you mean well you're
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saying that you know you don't want to get married because of money but then what's her incentive to
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stay and give you seven children when there's no commitment financially there is a commitment
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that's the thing is that i'm gonna i'm gonna stay with you for for our sake and for the sake of our
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children marriage is a self-sacrificial religious institution when you go into it from this red
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pillar feminist perspective it's like ultimately it's going to look like a negative to whoever's
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participating in it because the women is going to end up as you said having to sacrifice her body
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having to sacrifice her time and youth for a man and the man is going to sacrifice his money his
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resources everything he's worked for it's like if you're not willing to trust the other person
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marriage is just you know then you shouldn't have kids with them for sure i mean sure yeah
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no you can have kids and not want to get married that's totally fine i don't think that's morally
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correct that's flower children but your your perspective would also be riley that um any sex
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outside of marriage is sinful and immoral right if you're not going to be with them for the rest
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of your life yes no but even if you are going to be with them for the rest of your life but you're
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not married well when you have sex outside of marriage is somebody somebody was actually
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talking about like okay if you're dating versus married like what actually constitutes being
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married and the answer to that is actually sex that is the actual exact moment when you do get
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married which is why it is such a big deal to be promiscuous and have sex with a bunch of men
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because you're getting married divorce married divorce married divorce married divorce spiritually
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yes and your brain essentially just gets ruined spiritually no 100 i mean i also disagree with
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hookup culture riley hold on riley if that was the case if it was the case that when you have sex
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you are married, then why would there be a need for a formal marriage ceremony?
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I think for the formal marriage ceremony, that is to show that you're actually serious about it
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It's not, I would say that it's security for the girl to know like, okay, we're having this big event
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This is a pretty good chance he's actually being real about this.
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Okay, I'll actually have sex with him because he's probably being genuine about it.
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I've actually talked about this with my girlfriend.
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When it comes to marriage, it was a religious institution.
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Just like you, I have a woman who reached out to me.
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Marriage was supposed to be a religious institution where you had a blessing from the Lord,
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australian phobia okay um thank you man appreciate it i have a question i'm sorry okay what's your
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question really quick my question is are you okay with that mentality in reverse so for example my
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goal this year is to buy some land i don't have to pay property taxes in arkansas i would like
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to have my children be able to also build on that land and the reason why i wouldn't want to get
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married is because my goal is to give my children uh financial wealth you know through the years and
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I, my number one priority now is my children. And so I'm opposed to marriage for the same
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reasons you are, Brian. Are you against that? Like in reverse, are you against a woman having
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that same mentality? Oh no. A woman who's cool with not getting married. I'm totally fine with
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it. I'm totally fine with it. Uh, at least from my perspective, but, uh, do I object to like
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a Christian marriage? No, totally fine with it. Makes perfect sense. Um, but, uh, I don't really
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fully understand like why secular people non-religious people get married it just seems
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kind of pointless to be honest i agree every i would argue everything that i could have in the
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marriage i can have absent marriage like for example i could have somebody who i stay with
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and who stays with me for the rest of my life i can have children so i can have all those things
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what about health insurance that's usually the big number for my secular people that's why secular
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people get married is health insurance property liabilities trust babies are expensive to have
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Your wife will be able to get covered if she's not on your plan.
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There's a lot of questions that your sins arise.
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So all that stuff, even if I grant that, okay, perhaps one of the benefits of marriage,
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maybe it presents some financial benefits in either tax ways or other ways,
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I find that kind of negligible in comparison to the massive financial risk
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of like a community property. Uh, we're going to split ass, my assets really. And, uh, alimony.
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I think that it's a huge liability for me specifically. Now, look, I'll tell you this
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much. If I meet a woman who makes more than me and I like her best believe I'm marrying her.
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Would you make her with women being a boss, babe? Hold on. I don't know. It's not that first off.
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i don't it's okay it's not that i'm just saying like that's the circumstance under which i would
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get married would be uh i don't know she's got a fuck ton of money more than me anyways um or
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or commensurate uh let's move on to a different topic or no wait we had to do ai and then we had
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to do we did the bow let's do the ai okay here's a fun segment we've made all of you dudes well i
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guess riley we made him into a woman uh so the question is think of this in your head as you're
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looking at this would you date the male version of you oh i look so chopped as a man uh just yes
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or no would you date them no no okay next destiny would you date them uh no okay next
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cave would you date them oh it went away uh probably yeah okay next how does your husband
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about that wow this is so funny yikes no okay i'm scared i don't want to see what the
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what is that picture you have a strong jawline why do i look so mean
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i do have a strong yeah you look cute yeah i mean if i wasn't married sure
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aside from the scowl i feel like if it was a better uh facial expression you know i think
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he'd be like it's probably a good looking dude yeah next it's not bad this is funny you're too
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far from the mind just skipper skipper skipper skipper skipper you're a good looking man yeah
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yeah next absolutely not what what about you he looks like he's worth 20 million dollars
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Riley and I have way more in common than we thought.
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Wait, so do you just like, it's not your preference?
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I used to like them, and then I kind of grew out of it.
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What made you grow out of black men and not like them?
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i don't know i just like grew out of it i don't know i'm not allowed to be racist anymore i got
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called out for it i was just i was hoping yeah i guess it just like i don't know i don't think
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they're like ugly it just wait so here a couple questions for you uh so you're black would you
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would you rather right i don't know maybe just winds up um would you rather date a black person
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Would you rather date a black man or a white man?
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Would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
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Would you rather date a black man or a Latino man?
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Would you rather date a black man or an Indian man?
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I'm going to have to go with the black eye.
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Would you rather date a black man or a Native American man?
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Oh, would you rather date a black man or an Arabic man?
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I feel like I should ask you this question too.
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Would you prefer to date a black man or a white man?
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You've never met a black guy who made the same as a white man?
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What is the relationship with shark loans?
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No, no, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad.
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Okay, African American or African African?
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I have gotten along with African Africans so much.
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Oh, the pictures? Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, my bad
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yes for sure so fruity there's potential there's white mexicans that man is fully white um no
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there's white mexicans i know there are white look at his facial okay that's nordic yeah next
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it's giving my brother no that actually doesn't look like my brother yikes no no that's hideous
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that's not even my looks match no that's no that's that's incorrect error okay next smash
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Women can transition into a man very easily, and sometimes it's passable.
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This is direct evidence that all these transgenders trying to transition into a woman, it's impossible.
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I get what you're saying about the left picture, but the very right picture, I don't think so.
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It literally just looks like him with a wiggle.
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Why did your face look so skinny in the first picture?
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tomboys. You look like you're on Orange is the New Black.
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She's cute. You were definitely on the field hockey team.
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how do you know what's big i have a big let's just say audi who here has an audi labia
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ryan is fishing for his future wife i know you're asking me some questions or i got an impression
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what is the impression of my partner to know okay i like how he ranked hannah the highest
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on the looks question and then he directly asked her big lobbyist wait can you can you answer this
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What determines, like, you said you look at a woman and you're like, I got big labia vibes.
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Like, what is it in a woman that gives you the big labia vibe?
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Sometimes I've been pleasantly surprised, and sometimes I've been way off the mark.
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like i just get a vibe sometimes i can look at a woman i'm like
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but other times i've been like i thought i had her pegged no wait
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pause and then and i and i was totally wrong i was like she gave me big lady energy but she had
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like a a crate like just an innie happens it's like you don't like charles xavier of vaginas
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basically it's just like trying to summon i have energy i have been doing research my own research
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on this subject and i'm actually writing a book on it so oh my god a profession a whole book
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is it a deal breaker for you would you have children within any just because it does grow
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after childbirth so would you risk it all and have children within any i don't think like you're
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talking about a child's genitalia it's a little bit weird no no you're misunderstanding my question
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But would I, if she's a really fantastic woman.
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yeah it's a lot it's a lot a lot of labia yeah i mean it's an important subject you have a t-shirt
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so i'm just saying look it's not a deal breaker it's not a deal breaker um but you know kind of
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like you know how like a guy who's like five foot seven has to make up for it okay well he's five
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foot seven but he's rich and blah blah whatever like if a woman hasn't any that's most women she
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really i don't know it might be 50 50 uh she really had you know she's got to make up for it
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is what i'm saying okay so how does she do that look it's like a guy with a like a guy with a
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small dick like he's got to make up for it yeah he's got to make up for it in other ways right
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so it's like it depends on the culture i respect the preference culture yo okay good talk uh next
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topic then uh y'all keep wanting to talk about this big labia thing i feel like i don't know
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they're insecure about it, they're seeking affirmation
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I mean, I know men are always up for sex, but women are not all the time.
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I mean, there's a lot of reasons why women might not want to have sex certain days of the week or, you know, certain days of the month.
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And, you know, again, women are more emotional than men.
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I know men, you know, even in a marriage, I mean, you know, it's different when you're married, yes.
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Sometimes I, you know, I don't know, something, it's going on in my head, and I don't want to have sex, because for me, it's an intimacy, yeah.
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We're not talking about all the time, we're just talking here.
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Yeah, so the question is, regularly turns them down.
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So if the girlfriend is sick, or she's not feeling well, or maybe she's just having an off day, and she's not in the mood, I think that's totally fine.
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However, if you're regularly turning down, then...
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I still believe that it shouldn't be a reason for a man to dump a woman.
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I would argue, in the same way that Brian brought up the whole,
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and it's a great example, honestly, the whole bed situation,
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that's neglecting a woman's attention and affection theoretically.
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would you be okay if a man was neglecting you with the affection and attention?
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And if he was, would it be okay for a woman to dump him
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I think your sexual needs, like both men and women's sexual needs are important in a relationship the same way a woman's needs for affection.
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I just don't think women have sexual needs, not like men.
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I mean, like, are you saying, like, you wouldn't want to have sex with them or you wouldn't even do sex with them?
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It's girls are basically thinking, I'm going to fall in love with a guy at 13.
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Even if not to the same degree, women still have sexual needs.
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it is though it is i'm like just because you're asexual and exactly i mean i love affection and
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it's like intimacy for that is affection but it's like when it's a woman's like i have to get off
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just like a man i'm like that's just not real it's just not real it's not real to you it's real
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yeah i like intimacy when it comes to like yes we're gonna cuddle you're just tripping you're
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actually tripping maybe you've not been with the right man low-key if it's okay she didn't claim
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her husband at first so we know i know well i'm also in the same position as brian i'm also a
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major influence let her talk uh if it's month after month after month when it comes to a girl
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rejecting the guy there's a reason there's an underlying reason that she's rejecting him but
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then why not break up with him i just don't want to fuck if what could be a health reason i mean
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it's it's it would be smart to go and ask about the health it would be smart to go and ask about
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that underlying reason but usually that underlying reason is a reason to break up for most people
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I say, this is true, but that would still mean that the relationship should break up.
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Let me, I do want to get a way in from some other people here.
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So, okay, you do say it's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
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Yeah, I mean, if they said that's the only motivation, yeah, I think it's really wrong.
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Any woman can cook or clean or fold laundry for your husband.
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You're the only one that really can be intimate with him.
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depriving a man of their men need sex period and you're depriving now unless you have cancer
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we want it the argument is is it okay for him to leave her is the question and the counter argument
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is well if he's not meeting her needs emotionally is it okay for her to leave him yes angelica
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raises a good argument here uh as it relates to women's needs and if the man is not meeting the
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woman's needs is it reasonable for the uh woman to leave the man to which i'm assuming you would
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say yes yes so the woman's not meeting her her boyfriend or husband's needs i just feel like
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it's not in the same level the sexual relationship as emotional wait can i ask you how about this
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um i let's say in this hypothetical my girlfriend wants to uh yap at me for one hour and then you
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know what and you know what for like maybe she does that every single day but like I turn her
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down from being able to yap at me six out of seven days of the so only one day the other days I have
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a headache my show is on I don't really want to hear you yap I'm tired I mean I would think why
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is she yapping at you why oh my god it's not like that but yeah I mean it's kind of the default
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setting so it's self-explanatory i mean but again it's not a good a good example though
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again i i i do think that you know just dumping your girlfriend or your wife because she's not
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wanting to have sex with you i feel like that's wrong because as a man you should find out what's
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going well i do think it is a good example because if and this can vary from relationship to
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relationship uh if men have a higher desire for sex than the woman does the woman has a higher
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desire for attention and, uh, communication perhaps than the man does. I think most men
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would be more men would be okay with the following scenario. Silence. Whereas women are going to be
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a bit more desirous of verbal communication. Whereas I think most men, like I could honestly
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not talk to my girlfriend for like days on end and be totally fine with it. Just cruel. I'm
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I mean, most of the time, you know, I prefer silence, too.
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There's introverted women who are fine with it.
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Okay, well, I do have to move on to the next thing.
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A woman should not be rejected because of her weight, to which you agree.
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You agree a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
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why should a woman not be rejected because of her weight i feel again we're basing you know what
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let's have her go first um i mean i think all men should be able to have their preference
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but at the same time i don't think that you should be basing people off of just their weight
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okay okay so if i have a preference to date a girl that weighs less than me that's okay that's okay
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And if like, if I don't date women that weigh less than me, or sorry, that don't weigh,
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If I don't date women that weigh less than me, that's fine.
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Is your argument that if they get fat, you shouldn't dump them over it?
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It's, it's not like within a relationship, although it could be, um, that muddies the
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water a little bit but it's more so from the get-go true but she's conceding that she wouldn't
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do it from the get-go but i'm wondering if by her logic she means if she's gonna get fat if
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you can dump her there that's where my oh so it's not so okay so just to be clear just for
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clarification for both of you if a woman if a man from the get-go from the jump doesn't want to
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uh date a woman to date a woman uh because she's overweight told you're totally fine with that
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yes and no oh my god you guys are doing a modern daily where it's it's you're you're shifting the
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goalposts um okay so let's start with the more defense i well the more the the claim that relates
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more to what's written on the paper a woman should not be rejected because of her weight
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typically a rejection would imply an initial encounter you break up with somebody for for
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reasons you're you're not like if you've been dating a girl for six years six years you're not
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rejecting her you're dumping her so i think using the terminology reject would imply that there is a
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uh the timeline here is on the short side so okay i see a girl on a dating app
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and she's ever she say she's perfect like her everything else is perfect uh but she's 300
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pounds but like her personality with other like our personality would be perfect
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but i will not date her because she's 300 pounds is that wrong oh no
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i believe it's wrong you believe it's wrong yes why i just again i have dated
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fat man too and okay but sorry go ahead continue yeah i just believe that basing everything off
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looks is wrong just for all the wrong reasons yeah i believe that i mean i i consider myself
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like she said like i analyze everything about a man would you reject a guy who's four foot 11
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probably not i mean i have dated short kings too no no hold on hold on i'm gonna hold you to this
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Okay, one time I went on a date with a fat chick.
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i mean i can say that it could not be my preference but i wouldn't just judge
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judge someone of the way they're either the look what would actually be wrong with it though
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i mean that's if that's your preference that's fine i just think it's not right i just think
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that it's wrong just to judge someone by the way they look but don't you think attraction has to
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be there in a relationship well yeah exactly and if you if you like most people like i'm not
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attracted to like an obese person the same way maybe brian wouldn't be attracted to it's a
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lifestyle too you can't help that attraction so it's not morally wrong to like have you ever
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attraction to a fat person have you ever rejected a guy at a bar because he just wasn't your type
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like you're like oh you're not attractive like now no thank you absolutely okay so you're saying
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that we are morally wrong for saying no we don't want to date a 300 pound woman who's going to have
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like like a diabetes when she's pregnant and not be able to get birth no that's immoral but like
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you're like oh yeah i've rejected guys and you know well but i have the bar well to start off i
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don't go to bars so but yeah i have rejected guys at different based off their looks yeah have you
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based off looks no based off so if a guy was a stunning knight in shining armor strong jawline
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look at these eyebrows like just like this if you look just like that you you wouldn't have
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rejected him you would have said oh yes you would have said definitely no i mean again i don't base
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myself when i date i don't i don't actually look i don't if they look good okay fine but i mean i'm
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still gonna so it doesn't matter at all it doesn't matter at all physical attraction is a very
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important aspect it is it i feel like it is but um again not for me but you got to think about
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everyone but oh yeah even even if they're asking me for me it's not so i think this is a no offense
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i think you're bullshitting i think you're lying but even if we were to grant that you care nothing
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whatsoever about looks and physical appearance your own uh preference would not map on to like
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the vast majority of other people and it wouldn't mean that they're wrong for like yeah okay you
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um like for example i like big labia i don't think it's wrong for a guy to have a genitalia
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preference to like prefer an innie or whatever no i mean i mean it's not wrong i just you know
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like i said you that's a question towards me if it's wrong for me it's wrong for me but not for
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everybody else i guess no but the question the statement is not do you from is it wrong for you
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it's like a general statement for me i feel like for example the question for example uh on the
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questionnaire question uh or statement 24 women are the primary victims of war not men have you
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ever been the victim of war no not you okay but so i'm asking you like to think in a more general
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sense not just strictly about your own okay if we're talking about like generalize it maybe yeah
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maybe it's not wrong for a man to have their own preferences i think she's saying it's fine for
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everyone else it just feels wrong okay so then the less defensible position i don't even think
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it's wrong though in a relationship for a man or a woman i don't have a double standard to break up
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with their significant other uh if they like gain 200 pounds i don't think that would be wrong
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even in a relationship now perhaps you can give a bit of leeway perhaps they can correct it but i
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don't think it would actually be wrong for me it's a health thing in a lifestyle i'm very active i
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like to hike i like to go on my bike i like to do all the things like the talk i can't do
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i've been sitting here go ahead go ahead continue with your point go ahead go ahead
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just disregard go ahead okay so anyways i can't do that with someone who's 300 pounds i can't
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maintain this lifestyle i'm also granola and i feel like if you don't care about yourself why am
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i supposed to care about yourself and who wants to date a lazy person yeah if you're extremely
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overweight that says that you don't care about yourself or you're lazy or you don't have ambitions
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and goals yeah and i got huge this last pregnancy i gained over 100 pounds and i lost it so and i
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because i know that's not my lifestyle that's not who i am as a person i just had a baby late in
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life but this is my lifestyle and this is what so if you if your wife or your girlfriend or whatever
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has a baby like obviously some little lean weight because it's you get fat sometimes well no okay so
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yeah if your your girlfriend is pregnant yeah of course she's going to put on some weight uh but
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i think uh let's say for example absent a pregnancy uh your girlfriend puts on 200 pounds i i that's
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like a massive material change to yeah like your level of attractiveness physical attraction to
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her um now look the man could also choose to stay with her because he loves her that would be fine
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too but i don't think i would i think it'd be hard pressed to actually say that it's wrong for a man
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to break up with his girlfriend because he's no longer attracted to her women break up with men
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all the time for a myriad of they fall out of love they're no longer attracted to the guy whatever it
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might be the guy changes in one way or the other people break up i don't think it's wrong to do so
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uh any pushback on that from anybody i guess not okay uh somebody oops hold on these guys in the
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comments it's like actually insane they keep calling you team i'm here i'm here and you're
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not like that just says enough you're in your bed doom scrolling like come on it does says enough
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it does say enough roasted it's funny when the conservative man i'm here they're jealous though
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it's just it's just that one person it makes me laugh for how they're doing scrolling in their
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bad staying up way too late they're all in bed and we're here uh frankie you write women are
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oppressed in the usa why is that or you agree with the statements anyways
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i would agree with it because the propaganda that controls women and that we have to live by
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is quite oppressive like yeah like what like for instance like social media i feel like we're just
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so tied to social media in a certain way and it's just kind of like we're kind of groomed into well
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I want to just say social media there's a lot of things that from the beginning of when we're born
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we're just kind of groomed into that we have to do for instance uh okay for instance like you saying
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that if um you invite a woman over and you sleep with her and she does your laundry like why is it
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that has to be laundry like would you expect a man to do something like that for you I'm not gay so
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So, no, but I'm just saying, like, it's just, like, the types of things that you would think for a woman to do something for you that's kind.
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You wouldn't expect a man to do something like that.
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But women expect men to do things for them.
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Well, not only that, but hearkening back to the original point I made before, when it comes to social media, they're injecting insecurities in you so that way you could wear a ton of makeup.
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Go on to OnlyFans now because they market it as, like, just a social media influencer program.
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It's like if we're being degraded, it's by the things that men are warning us against.
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it's not because they're pushing something onto us
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it's because they're trying to keep us away from it
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Tamu Kirk is getting hella closeted gay allegations
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Of a great man does that not make you a good man
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So it seems like you didn't bring enough liberals on.
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This would be so much better if there's like a bunch of liberals.
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I think Americans tend to use the word oppressed way too much, especially those who don't travel.
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If you actually leave your bubble, you can see that we are not oppressed, not even the slightest.
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That's why I took my son to the U.K. for his high school graduation last year.
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The first thing he said when he got off the airplane was he looked around.
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Mom, I've never been so happy to be an American
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I mean, there's certainly poor parts of London, but there's also poor parts of America.
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Hold on, go into my Discord, go into the research infographics tab.
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I recently posted something, or wait, fuck, did I post it?
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The U.K. is still like a first world country.
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They're arresting people for memes that they post online.
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downtown london used to be one of the nicest areas in the entire world and now it's a shit
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show with the muslims over there it's amazing how liberal will embrace islam without recognizing
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how oppressive it is to win i know yes and they even do um never mind never mind removal of the
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clitoris in some countries riley would love that two hundred dollars wait he sent it
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Temu Kirk is getting heliposited gay facts thrown his way.
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Care to take Brian on a date and do his laundry?
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it's funny he wants you uh okay um a few more here from the questionnaire showing up really
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quick uh women are the primary victims of war not men you didn't circle it but you said both
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are affected in different ways well yeah we've been over this in another episode like men die
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more often death is the worst thing you can go through but i would also say women experience
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certain types of trauma during war that men don't experience of course of course women do experience
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bad things in war but certain bad things that men don't so is it disproportionately i'm still
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want to say it's equal which is why i didn't circle it because men do fight more and die
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wait wait are we talking about because a lot of civilians die in war too and maybe that's
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part of the metric that what we're missing here because a lot of women and children
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are murdered okay for no reason they go out into the streets and i know this because i was in the
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marine corps i told you those marines used to come to our unit and like because they were out
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they were on their way out the door and one of the stories they told us is that they were instructed
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when we say, do men die more or do women die? Are we talking
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about civilians? Are we talking about military? We're talking
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are men uh especially those that are seeing combat are men so while women whether they're
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soldiers or civilians while there are women who are going to have uh negative outcomes during
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wartime uh there's more men who face negative outcomes than do women i do want to say i feel
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okay like maybe this is controversial but i feel like innocent civilians dying during war
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is a worse scenario than um soldiers dying during war right i think we can agree with that yeah even
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granting that you would still assume like chill the okay so of the children who died out the
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gender split would be equal there if the civilian split is equal then yeah well i don't know if like
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the it depends on the conflict um so in like the in large scale wars like world war ii world war
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one where like vast swaths of the eligible male soldiers were uh were a lot of them were soldiers
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then a higher proportion then yes a higher proportion of uh yeah we're not responding
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to this okay a higher proportion of uh the civilian population adult civilian population
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will be female but even then it's like okay so like how many women how about this and more
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If female civilians died, then in that case, women are affected worse in that conflict.
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And then it would be like, okay, it is the case if, like, let's say, if it is your country that is being bombed, then the civilian women are facing issues there.
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But take the United States, for example. There's no way in hell during World War II or World War I that you could ever say that, at least for Americans, that women, it's ever comparable.
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It could ever be comparable between women and men who are Americans because aside from Pearl Harbor, there wasn't an invasion of the United States.
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There wasn't bombing campaigns of American cities.
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Women were not in the trenches during World War I, American women.
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World War II, women were not on the battlefield fighting the Nazis.
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So when it comes to who's fighting the war, men are affected worse than men or killed more.
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that's why i didn't circle that right right well that's the thing is that i i have that as my
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biggest problem it's like there's certain issues like pregnancy that affect women way more there's
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certain issues like war that affect men way more at the end of the day you can't split them apart
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because even though it affects others more if one sex is affected the other one's going to be
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affected negatively too it's like you can't argue like oh who's exclusive i will say though a woman
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getting married a woman getting raped during war affects her more than it affects the man around
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her say like her husband's already dead she goes through that her daughter goes through that like
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that's suddenly something that's affecting the woman in this scenario not the man it demoralizes
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the men around her too that's the thing she's the primary person around her at that point
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the men her platoon the men maybe her husband's dead already though that's not her husband maybe
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she's a single mother it's not the her husband it's the men in the platoon are demoralized that
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one of their own was so violated this way and was impregnated by the enemy they might be demoralized
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but it still affected her worse yes but what i'm saying is that the men are also she's the primary
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victim of that. Everyone is going to have negative
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consequences on the sexes. You can't divide it
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male soldier getting killed. That demoralizes the
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woman at home, too. Yes, of course. I don't think
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uh male civilian deaths and male military casualties uh look rape is fucking terrible
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but my question to you would then be how many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape
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i am against all the wars that are going answer the question how many men are you willing to let
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die to prevent one rape death is worse so zero answer the question though i just did i'm not
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more men die, then there are women who are
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rapes. But that's the thing, is that the same people sending
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men to war, the same ones turning women into
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Literally, I don't know how far to go with this.
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I'm like, when it comes to the whole war issue,
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women are not the ones wanting men to go to war.
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The only people who benefit are multinational corporations
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That's why they burned Argentina to get that land.
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That's why they're getting the Ukrainian-Russian war right now.
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It's like we literally, like, women do not want their men,
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I mean, you're saying the Ukrainian war is because there were, like, Russian business interests?
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That's why Russia's been saying we don't want this war.
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NATO ended up saying, well, Ukraine can be part of NATO.
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The southern part of Ukraine said we don't want to be part of NATO.
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And then they ended up pushing forth this war, which then encroached upon the whole arms deal.
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I mean, NATO was supposed to be an anti-Russian, like, whole political organization.
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So, okay, you're saying that there was provocation towards Russia.
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but russia did initiate the land invasion of ukraine but who was the mastermind behind this
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whole orchestration ukraine's not at fault and neither is russian ukrainians have been dying
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it's a much bigger plan at foot the same people who orchestrated nato and the u.n and the world
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economic forum are the ones pushing these wars america why america pushes it's not america
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america's also a puppet it's like why are men and women fighting when it's like there's a bigger
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enemy above us putting us together basically i don't know who this enemy is but anyways
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what the fuck i'm like why exactly are we fighting wars is the issue like what merit
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what resources what invasion did ukraine do to us why are you wondering so is this what's your
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conspiracy what's your that's not a conspiracy it's literally like factually supported so is it
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I'm not allowed to say it, and I'm not going to say it.
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Let's say the satanic, pedophilic elites who drink baby's blood are the ones that are doing this.
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So just to be clear, all warfare throughout human history has been – it hasn't been for, like, various geopolitical reasons or, like, land disputes.
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I think it's all been a bank-promoted conspiracy to basically promote the central bank.
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Okay, so, like, if we go back to the 1500s when France and England were warring with each other.
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So what were the justifications for wars previously?
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What you said, geographic way of grab all the best.
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Look, and I'll know the validity of your claims.
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Is it possible that modern day military conflicts
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could be due to the same historical reasons for war?
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well not for our involvement how are we expanding into the middle east we're not we're not even
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promoting christian values over there even though we're supposedly a christian nation as shana ended
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up trying to allude to it's like we have like literally no business in anyone else's country
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not venezuela although it is nice because it is look i don't think the u.s should be involved in
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in any of this shit but um but then why are we going to war when it doesn't benefit anyone like
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it's literally a nonsense war yeah it's like why are we funding like sure russia would want the
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land grab of ukraine because you know most of russia i don't think it's just land grab for
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for russia but if that's the case let russia do what russia's gonna do i don't care it's way over
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there we should put our resources in the western hemisphere by the way this is not my wheelhouse
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the geopolitical war stuff so i mean i i'm not sure i could give particularly knowledgeable
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answers on this i mean my understanding obviously the united states is uh is aligned with with the
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west it's aligned with nato it's aligned with europe and and so uh you know i mean we have
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historical conflict with uh russia especially when there's the ussr my understanding though
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is that there was this push for ukraine to get involved with uh nato right is that correct
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and uh from putin's perspective he's like okay this is creating like an untenable position for us
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to basically like have nato uh in our front yard basically that's my understanding of it
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maybe that's like super simplistic but anyways let's i'll move it on back to dating um let's see
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uh hold on we have to do this i want to wait until she's back let's do this though uh okay
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men should provide men should be shovel-wrest husband should be willing to die protecting
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uh you will keep your last name i think i don't know what i'm gonna do well you did say you
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circled i will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage my hyphenate might keep my last name
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husband should protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die but you won't
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take his last name i'm seeing if anybody else can i can i say something about that when it comes to
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these things of like paying for dates being chivalrous i don't i don't insert shoulds and
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expectations what i think though is like okay if i have options of different men maybe this one's
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not willing to pay there's one who is willing to pay and who is willing to act shivers why would
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i just not choose the better one that's my whole thing it's just makes it better what you said
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about the laundry because it's nice it benefits options okay oh yeah sure um okay uh joy men
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should pay on first dates men should provide protect husband should be willing to die protecting
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you, you're going to keep your last name or hyphenate marriage. Why is that? Um, not keep
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it, but hyphenate it due to me being the only girl. So I would, does he have to hyphenate his
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last name? No, I meant. And what about the kids? Do they get his last name or do they hyphenate?
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No, they get his. Okay. That's somewhat better. Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh,
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Anna men should pay on first dates. Men should provide protect men should be chivalrous.
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husband should be willing to die protecting you. You will keep your last name or hyphenate in
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marriage. Why is that? I did change it when I was married, but this time my youngest has my last
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name. He's the one to carry on my family's last name. Like that's it. The buck stops here. So I
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kind of want to keep it for him. But if he chooses to change his last name to his father's, that's
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his decision. And then maybe I would reconsider changing my last name. So you've done it
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previously, but now you kind of don't want to do that. All right. Most of you, I think almost all
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of you husbands should be willing to die protecting you i think everyone answered that uh everyone
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me personally this is probably the take that gets everyone pissed off including the conservatives
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and i somewhat do this to rage bait a little bit but fuck it why not
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i don't think the the man should sacrifice his life for the woman
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makes sense as an atheist it's like your life is first second and third
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oh you you want your husband to die for you if it comes to that to that instance yes
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see that's crazy because i feel like asking someone to fucking die for you is a bigger ask
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than well but i mean but that's me just i want to bow i want her to fold my laundry she should
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be a little submissive that's easy compared to dying yeah but i mean we're talking something
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really hypothetically but if that comes to that instance yes i would my and my husband has told
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me you know he's like i will die for you like it's something if you were 300 pounds would you
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lose the weight for him that's beautiful that he loves her that much no i mean i don't think
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that's not a loser though i feel like that's an l for him no that's a high value for me he's not a
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loser but it's an l that he said for me that's a high value man again it's different cultures i
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i think that's a high value woman that she would die for me well you see i mean she dies for me
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I mean, again, I think if it comes to that instance, you know, that we have to choose between both of us.
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I mean, I probably also will say, yeah, I can die for my husband, you know, if it comes to that instance.
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Or you died to each other in this realm, basically saying, I'm not going to have my ego anymore.
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I'm going to be everything that you need to be.
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Yeah, that's not what we're talking about, though.
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Yeah, but then even more so in the physical realm, women do die for their husbands in several contexts.
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If a man doesn't want to protect me and lay his life down, I don't want to be with him.
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Not really childbirth, but it's just like in general, it's just, there was that, well, it's going to be anecdotal,
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but there was that one case with George Harrison and his wife where she ended up lunging on the man that was trying to kill him.
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She bashed him in the head with a lamp and he was like already stabbed on the floor 27 times.
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No, but he almost did and it actually contributed to his death.
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No, the guy who broke into his house stabbed him 27 times, and she attacked him.
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She lunged on him with the lamp and then basically knocked him out.
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So there's plenty of cases where women are basically being that way.
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First off, so there's an expectation on men to be willing to, even if I grant that it's really unlikely that for most relationships or marriages,
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that there's ever going to be some sort of crazy scenario where one or the other person has to die
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or the man has to be willing to sacrifice himself, a man's unwillingness to do so,
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like a man who's a coward, a man who wouldn't be willing to sacrifice himself,
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will be really harshly and negatively assessed by women to the point that I think a lot of women,
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if they were aware of this, like most men are probably not going to disclose this,
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even if it's the case, uh, it's a major turnoff for most women. Oh, he's a coward. He's a coward.
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No, I don't want to date a coward. Like massive ick for women. If the guy's a bitch or a pussy
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or whatever, huge, huge. Right. So even, and sometimes women will say, well, I'd be willing
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to die for him. It's different though, because there isn't a, there isn't a social expectation
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on you. There isn't a relationship, relational expectation on women to do this. And even if
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the woman was like uh oh my god if if there was a home intruder i'd just like run and like hide
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under the bed like the man wouldn't lose attraction for the woman doing that um it wouldn't he wouldn't
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lose attraction for whereas like a man said that oh i'm just gonna hide under the bed and hope they
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don't find us like a woman's gonna have a massive ick it's probably the end of the relationship
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absolutely and like for example if uh you're out with your boyfriend and he loses in a fight or
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something very hype it's not like the circumstances are going to matter in this um a woman's like
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going to lose attraction for a guy if she sees him get sparked up in the street fight she's going
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to lose she she sees him doing the fencing position he's fucking knocked out she's that
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relationship might as well be not necessarily let's just say there's a there's a uh a time
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limit on that relationship now if a woman's seen her boyfriend get knocked out it's over within
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six months not necessarily because let's just say if he's not in all instances but go ahead
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if he's fighting someone let's just say because this other man disrespected me in his fighting
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this other man let's just say this other man knocks him out yeah i would consider still my
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man that he's a really strong man even though because he's defending me yeah you know if a man
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gets knocked out typically that'll also prompt in some women a nurturing complex where they want to
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take care of the man who's down and out absolutely they won't like the man who's aggressive he was
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trying to protect me or taking care of me so i mean i disagree totally with what you said because
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for me it will actually it will still be in that get brain damage for your girlfriend um brian
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would you say you met the woman of your dreams you have seven kids you're all sleeping in a house
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there's an armed robbery that comes on you grab your gun would you go out there and and take on
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those people so the the threat is directed at me your family and my children so yes my family in
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totality so you would lay your life down uh well so i i would but i mean if i was living alone in
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the house i would also take steps to uh protect myself so it's like i would do it anyways but um
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i guess this is more so of a hypothetical scenario maybe i should paint it differently like uh like
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i don't know if somebody has to take the bullet or whatever you got the girl in the guest bedroom
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because it is a massive like if a guy is shivering under a bed while there's an arm
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robbering or letting me like deal with it that's a nick like you know right it's a nick but it's
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like so i guess ultimately though um how about this though in a scenario where um somebody has
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to die somebody has to die what the fuck dollar maxing that's funny uh so how about this uh there
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is a boat. You're on a boat with your wife and there's only one life preserver. And in the
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scenario, the life preserver is necessary to survive. There is no loopholes. You can't hang
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on to her. You can't swim indefinitely. Whoever gets the life preserver lives. Whoever doesn't
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get it dies. No loopholes. Who should get the life preserver? So you're on a boat with just
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your wife the woman the woman who should get the life preserver the woman sorry i kind of zoned out
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for a second is there any children involved in this scenario no just man and a woman but you're
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married or boyfriend i think the man probably has a higher chance of being able to like swim in the
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water and survive it's granted that in the hypothetical only one person can survive there
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are no loopholes to well he'll just he'll just tread water for three hours no whoever has a
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life preserver there's only one only one person can survive who gets the life preserver am i in
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this relationship yes it's you and your boyfriend in a boat i'll like okay the same way i said i
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would want my man to like lay down his life for me i'd be willing to do it for him so i would be
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willing to give it to him okay so you would do it in that scenario okay you said the man should do
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it i'd give it you'd give it to the man okay the woman should take the preserver okay the woman
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to take are we talking about titanic yeah i'm i'm thinking i'm like they did in the titanic
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sort of okay and i have to choose between me and my partner yeah he can have it okay what about you
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yeah if it's between me and my partner it'd be easy for me i think for me to say you can take
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oh sorry you can take it he can take it okay but if he actually took it would you be like
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Yeah, I'd be like, dang, that's kind of messed up.
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Just like it would be an ick if a guy is shivering under a bed when an armed robbery comes in.
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I would have to die with him or he takes it.
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But I wanted to ask you, so you disagree, right?
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Yeah, yeah, that you wouldn't die for your wife, right?
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So you're willing to impregnate a woman seven times.
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I think everyone should be willing to die for her.
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Okay, so in a situation where it's my daughter...
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So you want the woman who you've been pregnant seven times to get off the boat.
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Yeah, no one's going to be DMing you 10 times a day, Brian.
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Because you said you would go out and attack the robber inside of your house.
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It's not like I would just kind of like, I would take as many steps as I could to like,
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physically mentally just wait how about this really quick how about uh really quick but i i
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will give some explanation now it's not you and your boyfriend on a boat it's another couple and
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you somehow you can't do anything to intervene you're not able to help them but uh you witness
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you're witnessing it who would you judge more harshly assuming like uh assuming they're deciding
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this i don't know if they're deciding it democratically obviously the man through force
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could like fucking take the life preserver and be like fuck you um but let's say the
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who would you judge more harshly for picking themselves to survive the man or the woman
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the man the man obviously okay i need to see like who would be able to take better care of the kids
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there's no kids who would you judge more harshly for choosing to pick i would say the man i would
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say the man because the fact that he's physically stronger adds like an undercurrent to that like
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but you know both of them are one of them dies no matter what so just because he's stronger
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doesn't mean he's like can swim long like he's dead the stronger person choosing themselves
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over the weaker person just has a worse look it just has a worse yeah it's giving beta
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roll away from the one that gave you man children you judge the man harsher i just a man judge the
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man harsher the man the man harsher the man the man titanic really made me upset
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man you judge it harsher the man i actually don't know i don't know probably the man i don't know
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riley what about you who do you judge harsher the boy because that's not a man okay thank you for
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that now you you mentioned it's beta beta i'm just thinking about like some guy shivering or
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shivering away in a boat while you're just like leaving your woman up like just like
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get out of here and you want me to look i don't want to fucking drown hello i like to live
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give you seven kids bow to you and you're gonna roll away in a boat yeah you never ask the answer
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the question i'll get to it hold on the dms are gonna stop okay so you say it's beta for the man
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to do this i actually think by the way i think the alpha beta thing's fucking lame any guy who
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calls himself alpha it's super lame it's cringe never call yourself an alpha male that's super
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lame but using that that metric alpha beta beta male alpha male i actually think it's more alpha
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for the man to survive and i'll tell you why genghis khan the mongolian conqueror who by the way
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genghis khan uh the mongolian king or emperor or whatever i don't know what the exact terminology
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was for his title who had the largest and to this day the largest contiguous land empire in all of
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human history who just wantonly killed swaths millions of people he had dozens of concubines
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he had many multiple wives was it consensual hold on no that's irrelevant objection relevance
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uh objection sustained wait is that the one word okay whatever do you think genghis khan
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would sacrifice his life for one of his many wives no he's like oh you think i'm gonna die
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for one of my my wives is he someone to look up to as a man yes he had multiple he had dozens of
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wife he had concubines do you think that's morally right though that's secondary that
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objection of relevance uh so my my point here is but we're we're we're not assessing uh moral
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virtue here we're you you would agree with me that someone can be an alpha male and immoral
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right so if we're assessing alphaness uh over there i think we'd have to say that genghis khan
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was certainly an alpha male, being the ruler of the largest contiguous land empire to have ever
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existed, killing many, many multiple people. I'm not suggesting he's a moral man. I am suggesting
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that he is an alpha male. Didn't we say in the beginning of this, we talked about war,
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how men are stronger at war, how women should not be in war and women should not be on the front
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lines etc etc didn't we say that so what would be the difference men are stronger objection
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relevance men are stronger okay we know this well who's why we're having a conversation you said
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it's beta for the man to be to to want to survive and i would i would present to you a historical
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historical example i argue when it comes to gangas khan like yeah he did all of that and
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the mongolians are waiting for a second coming literally but between gangas khan and the man
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who conquered death which one was more alpha and who behaved in a more moral fashion jesus christ
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literally like he literally conquered death conquered the world i wasn't talking about moral
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i'm talking about alpha i'm talking about alpha historically and the omega like literally like
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disseminating your seed is not the strongest thing a man can do dying for your sins dying for those
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who don't deserve it is actually the most alpha male thing you could do according to the alpha
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Now, Brian, what do you define as alpha, though?
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I think if you call yourself an alpha, you're a beta.
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But, look, ultimately, this idea that you're a beta male for...
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Technically, like, I think it would be more alpha if...
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move uh genghis khan aside i think the more out again it's super cringe to use this terminology
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that the more alpha thing would be uh oh okay i have to choose between me dying or my wife dying
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well i could get another wife and i could have 20 more children with more women versus oh my god
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like check this out in modern day for for most dudes for most dudes who'd be willing to die for
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their girlfriend she's going to be on another dude's dick within three months so i gotta give
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my life for a woman who's going to be on tinder two weeks after the fortnight a fortnight after
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the fucking uh you wait hold on bro fuck that shit fuck that shit i ain't dying for some chick
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who's gonna have another man another man's cock balls deep in her within three months of my death
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you just said that you would go for another woman right after
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women are not deserving of being protected
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You think I'm going to fucking die for some woman
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would you die for your own daughter would you would you die for 72 virgins in heaven would you
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expect a man to die would you expect the man that your daughter mary to die for her
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is the question would you expect the man your daughter mary to die for her
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she's my blood so yes yeah but you wouldn't you wouldn't die for your own daughter would you die
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for you if his daughter was a virgin wait who would not want their daughter to marry a man
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more virtuous than you how is he virtuous why do you recognize that you have a lack of virtue then
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of course okay but i'm honest about you are missing skinny jeans and man let me let me at
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least i'm honest at least i'm honest i'll tell you this much all these guys who are like for
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example andrew tate has said by the way i don't have beef with andrew tate but andrew tate has
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said my duty as a man if there's i gotta protect i'm willing to die for a woman and look i don't
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have beef with andrew tate and this is some some things i agree with him some things i disagree
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i don't believe for a second that andrew tate who by the way has like multiple baby mamas and he's
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like muslim so he's got multiple girlfriends or whatever i don't think even marries them
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i don't think for a second he would sacrifice his life for any of his women well he wouldn't
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Of course, babe, I would sacrifice my life for you, blah, blah, blah.
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Is this the equivalent to women faking an orgasm?
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Well, actually, on a serious note, what Brian just said actually made me kind of think about it.
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I'm like, if a man wants their daughter to be with someone more virtuous than themselves,
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and they want to marry someone who's more virtuous than themselves,
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ultimately what they're saying is they want control in their life,
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where they're the ones who are holding all the cards and the experience,
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so that way they can predict the outcome basically because if even virtue applies to the man
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proposing to his daughter is a factor then it's no longer a sex-based difference well let me also
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explain this as as far as me wanting my daughter to marry the most virtuous man possible for example
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uh i'm far from being a virgin i did not wait until marriage what i would like for my daughter
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whether it happens or not, would be she's a virgin and she gets married to a male virgin
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who has been chased and they stay together forever and they have a bunch of kids
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and she gets married in her early 20s or something.
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That would be a more virtuous path for her, one that I have not followed.
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I can't actually think of why that would be objectionable
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just because I haven't lived that path that I wouldn't want a better path for my daughter.
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it's just an observation but that's exactly what everyone wants if they're sensible and care about
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their children for shizzle okay um past should not matter to which uh griselda you agree ali
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ali muhammad ali uh ali hey stay here for a sec for just for this one okay uh lisi you were like
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uh okay we have hannah or frankie passion not matter and then joy no anna passion excuse me
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uh anna passion not matter okay uh what why should that why should passion not matter
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body count why is that i don't think it should matter i mean it wasn't on his time why should
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matter i mean we have a saying in mexico if it didn't happen on your time why should it affect
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you i mean okay anybody else who said passion not matter why is that uh i mean i just don't
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believe it just because like if he can do it why can't i mean i haven't done anything bad obviously
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i haven't i've been not bad but you have an only fans while you're married okay yes it's with him
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though so uh okay what about anybody else passion not matter did anybody else i feel like it
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It shouldn't matter because, like, whatever he did before he was with me is not going to affect what we do in our family.
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So, like, a guy, and it does say in parentheses body count.
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Should a woman's body count past not matter?
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to those of you who say passion matter if you found out you knew that your guy used to
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get fucked by men but he's bisexual or let's say he might have he's turned a new leaf now he's
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straight but he used to get fucked by men or he's bisexual whichever one you fancy most
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you wouldn't not an issue you this is a different twist it's not different it's totally the same
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it's literally women fucked men before me but it's your man fucked men before you it's literally
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the man that's why they say the girls and the gays is because the girls are usually whores
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and it's like it's literally the equivalent it's like the same energy so but um i don't know i
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really i don't think it will matter you know because i mean he's not judging me by my past
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why i i would judge him i mean again i wouldn't think if your husband told you i need to tell
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you something i mean he told me late in the relationship like let's just say i've been
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married for him for well yeah i guess you might not leave him now although some women might leave
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i mean shona would you what about you oh i'd i'd leave and i also said past does matter oh you
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past doesn't okay okay it's good uh so your your husband's like listen my butthole there's been a
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lot of dicks and whoa that's somebody's gonna clip that fuck yikes fuck all right very excited
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new button uh so somebody's gonna fucking just start it right there without the context lovely
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Your husband, he received a lot of dickage through his anus.
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I mean, probably since we've been together for, you know, we've been married for 10 years.
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I think it will matter at this point if he never disclosed it before because that's a trust issue.
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Have you disclosed, like, all the penis that's been inside you?
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no but i mean but that's that's but that's different because i mean how's it different
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i'm not attracted to gay men that's why exactly i'm not attracted no he's bi that's gay okay then
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sorry i don't think it would matter as much as it would matter if he had like an std before
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your vagina will never please a gay man well no once again culturally speaking usually mexicans
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never get into those details they don't like going into the past especially the men they
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don't like talking about that is your husband mexican though he's mexican he's white his wife
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no he's white as hell uh what about you you're your husband you're married right he comes to you
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and he's like yo i used to get fucked by dudes ah damn it fuck
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okay who else hannah would you date a man um who got fucked by men what if he was the top you know
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he fucked the men he fucked them up why would that change it actually would be honest i think
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it's worse if he's a bottom i think it is he's just getting slutted out
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your dick is getting pleasured by some dude's asshole and you're saying that's gross it's
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degenerate but it's different it's so different it's like at least in that
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i can't i don't anyways uh body count what's your body count
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no i wasn't gonna say that i was trying to make a point about something i was
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just trying to ask him oh bro so what's your body count
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sorry three okay nine nine okay nine from when i was a degenerate
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teenager okay i'm engaged just him i can't disclose oh well okay hold on well don't lie
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so i don't respect for him i can't wait can you into the mic though i'm sorry out of respect for
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him i don't want to say it's more than one then okay what about you three really what wait can
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is it because she's black um why don't you believe me no okay it's because she's a woman
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all right go ahead she said three yeah i'm not gonna give my body count range do you want to
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do a range no do you want to do a range it's low more than 10 less than 10 less than 10 into the
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mic i'm sorry less than 10 did you what did you say three three yeah you got a guy in high school
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my baby father and my current boyfriend why are you so suspicious
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less uh can you less i'm not doing body count more than 10 or less than 10 no i'm not doing
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body count period whether it's 2 or 22 people are going to infer certain things from that but
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okay what about you uh body count seven seven okay i'm gonna go with hannah i'm not gonna
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disclose is it over i'm not disclosing anything and i've disclosed enough with my sex life and
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my one night stand baby okay thank you that i did not want to explore less than 50 do you want to
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ballpark it nope ballpark is it less than 50 i'm not single question i'm not gonna disclose anything
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single question okay all right you can you can oh boy all you want you just said the same thing
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like okay well before before i give my answer don't we have a second champagne bottle that
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supposed to open no i did both we already but there was three one thousand dollar payments
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yeah those are bigger about the same no no i i so i did one pop and then i did two pops like
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back to back so i did three i popped three six six okay three three you slut liar you
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So it's a bit nuanced because it depends on the age.
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So like a woman who's 20 versus a woman who's 30, there's going to be some leeway there a little bit.
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But like just across the board, I'd say like just as an easy metric.
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as an easy metric for um some people are going to say it might be a bit lower than this but i
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think like just for simplicity's sake i'll say over 10. that's a very easy cutoff for me to say
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that's when you're getting i wouldn't say like i wouldn't say it's like it's i wouldn't label it as
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high but it's above a desirable number like when i think high i think like 20 30 plus around 10 is
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a bit of a wobbler you could charge it as a felon felony or misdemeanor does it matter whether those
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bodies happened within relationships or outside of a relationship i like that you asked this
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question because there it's more than just the body count there's a but i i haven't quite figured
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out the right term for it there's a body count multiplier for example for example
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a woman who's slept with one man one time but that man is
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someone who's just fucking filthy her body counts not one her body counts like 10 so for example a
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woman who fucked an indian oh bro that's crazy uh it's a joke though he's joking do you want to
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what would the multiplier be though no no not no it's not a racial thing okay uh i would say
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but you didn't mention filthiness so i'm like oh bro i i assumed it was out of here literally i
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love indian people hold on so um okay disavow that but so uh i would say it's like if he's like a
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rapper or some shit or like i don't know some of these rappers are just known for just running
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through chicks like if a girl let's say a girl fucked like i don't know some some the the boy
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next door and he's he was she was a virgin he was a virgin whatever that's different than if a girl
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fucked nle choppa like if a girl fucked nle or like the island boys or whatever the fuck those
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weirdos are if a girl fucked an island boy that's like 20 bodies this is boy math this is this is
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boy math right now uh if a girl fucked hmm who's a it could also just be a guy you don't like
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too yeah like a girl fucked do you you don't believe that people can change like maybe they've
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had a past and then they said you know what this is wrong and then they go on long standings of
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sabbaticals and you know like you can't change your past though i mean that's what i did i disavow
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like all the bodies i racked up as a teenager but yeah yeah but just to finish this point
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just answer your question like if a girl if a girl fucked a guy with a bunch of face tattoos
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that's a that's not one body that's a couple that's 13. if he was a virgin with face tattoos
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i'm sorry there's no they were in a long-term relationship i'm sorry i feel like there's no
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male in human history who's a virgin who has a face i mean logically it's possible but there's
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a male with a face tattoo who's a virgin highly unlikely it's possible but it's like we need
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someone in the chat to chime in is anyone a virgin with a face tattoo in the chat we need
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some confirmation like for example some girl um dm'd me asking me to rate her the other day or
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something and she's like she has breast implants and she said she was a virgin and i'm like
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it's possible like it obviously it's possible like a woman's a virgin she gets breast implants
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it's possible but i'm like this is really unlikely like really unlikely you know does that make sense
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yeah so your your answer is just assuming that if you're not in a relationship with that person
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that that person has probably ran through a bunch of people yeah i didn't even answer your question
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come to think of it what was your question again um when it comes to the high body count doesn't
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matter if those bodies were when you were in a relationship yeah that's a good or not that is a
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good question i actually wonder if the high body count question per man is the same thing as rate
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your looks question per woman where it's like they can't have an objective answer to it because it
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really is about vibes same thing with women it's all about vibes uh so i i don't know because
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sometimes I think about this, like on one hand, it's good for a woman to be relationship minded,
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but then I was thinking about, and so I don't know if I actually have like a concrete answer to that.
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I suppose it's nuanced, but I was thinking about this. For example, say a woman has a body count
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of one, but she only had sex with a guy one time versus she has a body count of one, but she was
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dating that guy for three years and got fucked a thousand times so it was a one night stand
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versus a relationship i think the second option is better i you know what i kind of almost prefer
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the one night stand what if what if we raise the number to 20 like i know it sounds counterintuitive
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but it's like she got fucked less that's a feminist argument that's what girls say when
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they say like oh well you know i've had sex with you know i'm not going to get clipped out i know
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when they hypothetically say i've had like they've had sex with like 300 men and they're like well
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what's the difference between that and having sex with one person 300 times well so so your body
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count is one even if you like you you had a boyfriend and you slept together a thousand times
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versus you had a one night like your body count is still one but like from the my male perspective
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um now if it was a string it's still hard like okay she's she's had 10 boyfriends and she slept
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with all of them 100 times or whatever uh and then she had 10 one night stands that is a bit
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more indicative like to have 10 one night stands that's more indicative like of a ongoing behavior
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on the woman's part she's still only fucked 10 times though so but but it isn't like you'll just
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be a one versus like a girl who has a body count of one and she had a one-night stand like
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it might have just even been like she wanted something with the guy but the guy hit it and
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quit it a 10 boyfriends is also indicative of a behavior though if you can't i mean yeah that's
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yeah that depends on how old you are i'm 41 so and i've been dating since a teenager so let's say
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let's say this person's 28 and you've had 10 boyfriends they've had one per year they probably
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Well, even if you add one per year, that's still a really short amount of time.
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Okay, anything below three body count for the woman to just have had like one sex with these three guys one time each, that's preferable.
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Then when it gets over, like this is total boy math, over four, then maybe the relationship girl might be preferable.
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And then when they're both 10, it's just they're both bad.
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Brian Atlas kind of has the high social class, right?
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And you have a wife application because you don't have enough time for all the women in your DMs, dude.
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After the – I would throw my wife out of the boat.
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i don't know if he's going to be getting too many dms after that wait a minute wait a minute there's
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a lot of women who especially liberal women where they'll send like those tumblr personality quizzes
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and like those mbti tests that's basically what brian is doing with the personality test
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it's just the male version of it i mean earlier i didn't even disavow his whole personality test
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but like she's fine with the girlfriend's application no no just in general actually
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i was just kind of thinking about it because it was presented as an issue i don't know i've never
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I'm a single, a single liberal girl who's sending her, her guy, personality tests.
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Just to be clear, you know, look, it's not that I wouldn't protect my girlfriend.
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Like if there's a home intruder, like best believe I'm going to handle it.
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There's a difference between in a hypothetical where one of you has to die, me preferring
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That's perhaps you could say that's selfish, but that isn't necessarily evidence of a
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some sort of cowardice because if presented with a self-defense situation i'll rise to the occasion
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to the best of my ability like if i have to dispatch the home intruder i will do so like
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bro i got a fucking cat my cat got into actually i don't know if i should share it's too much detail
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let's just say if somebody like another animal's fucking with my cat because we get like raccoons
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and whatever like i'm gonna protect the motherfucking cat i'll just say that you'll
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You're going to lay down your life for the cat, but not the wife.
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No, I'm not going to lay down my life for the cat, but I'm going to fuck...
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Whatever's trying to attack my cat is going to fucking get it.
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You sound more determined about your cat than you would for the wife.
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Whoever's going to try to attack my girlfriend, my kids, they're going to get fucked up.
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Yeah, with the cat, you were very enthusiastic.
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Okay, I think we're done with this questionnaire.
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Can I say that I have a gluten allergy if you are going to order food?
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Let me blast through the pre-show notes from all of you.
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You've never done boy-girl content with another man.
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uh you want are women dating up unrealistic i think so oh you think it's you think it's
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unrealistic for women to do that yeah sometimes i totally agree with you no disagreement you say
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that porn consumption or you ask is porn consumption in relationships cheating i'm not
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so sure i'm not sure i would go i would say it's cheating but men shouldn't do it and it's wrong
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They think we're going to be swinging on swings
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Actually if you're watching pornography as a man
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You're basically training yourself to cuck yourself
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That's why cuckolding is becoming more and more of a popular thing
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Tiffany, can you give me two water bottles?
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Also, if the man had the opportunity to have sex with the porn star, he would probably take it.
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Also, it's probably an indication that he might want to cheat in the future.
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That's like the first red flag before cheating as well, I feel like.
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Well, what's wild is that 90% of OnlyFans subscribers are married men.
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I think the status, 30% of porn consumers now are women.
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Okay, just to blast through, you said do men care more about looks
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so this happened in fort lauderdale florida he basically told me to get out of his car like he
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kicked me out of his car on the side of train tracks because i refused to sleep with him and
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he proceeded to tell me that he was going to find another bitch who would yikes um and you so you
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met at a bar and you continued hanging out it was like an italian restaurant bar it was kind of early
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and then the night was getting later i think this happened like around 11 p.m but it wasn't like a
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dating app or it wasn't no in person you met him when i was out yeah okay um and so you called a
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friend to come save you yes yeah okay so that's wrong for the man to do uh you know you should
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probably you know drive them back or whatever like it's funny talking about it now but when i was in
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the situation like i was scared i didn't know where i was like it was a new place now i don't
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think that's sort of piggybacking off this though to the panel do you guys think that it's wrong
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like that situation that's that's clearly like he could have like he should have driven you
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somewhere safe like yeah back home or at least back to the bar main street yeah yeah like that's
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a he had some duty of care for you that he i mean yeah so um although i wonder if we flip to the
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roles if a woman insisted that a man exit her vehicle would we have an issue and he
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like would we have an issue with it yes like for like if you denied him sex or something or
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no the woman's just like okay we're in a dangerous part of town like but i'm upset at you for
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whatever the reason get the fuck out that's not okay that's not okay i also felt like if i didn't
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get out he could physically remove me and i don't think i could physically remove a man from my
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vehicle exactly so that would really scare me if the roles were yeah sure men are men are stronger
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than women so i feel like that is a little bit scarier uh i guess the question i was going to
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pose though is in a situation where he's not a man's not being a fucking dickhead and leaving
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her in a dangerous precarious situation do you think it's wrong if a man wants to have sex with
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woman and she doesn't she doesn't want to which totally fine that he drops her so in other words
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like he's like say you drove her over to the guy's house and you're like hey uh i don't really want
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to hook up which totally fine and then he's like oh well um i do can you leave is that wrong
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I wish you would have said it before I wasted my time
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that you may be interested in having sex with them.
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Are they like, that's why I always put it out.
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I don't, I say that I'm not going to have sex with them.
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But sometimes women on dating apps will be like,
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Then they were like, then they're wrong for that.
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If they're like misdating their intentions initially.
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For every reason that I can think of, it's not wrong to just end an interaction.
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You have no obligation to be interacting with a person, no matter what the reason.
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No obligation, but it's still like, you can still say it's right or wrong.
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Let's say, you know, you were in the middle of watching a movie.
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You were making out, which you were fine with, but he wanted to go further.
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doesn't want to have sex in that scenario that's
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fine and if he suddenly wants to like kick her out
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because she didn't want to have sex with him
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then i think i'm judging him so the new scenario is like he makes the move she says no he's okay
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let's finish the movie the night ends you go home but he's no longer interested and doesn't want to
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continue seeing you because you turned him down for sex and because sex is not on the table is
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that wrong okay so like is she just like not is it like too early for her to have sex or is it
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If it's too early for her, if she feels it's too early for her to have sex.
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If they have different sexual preferences, he can end things with her.
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There's no right or wrong, but I do think that's a conversation that should be had up
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And if it's like, I won't even go over to a man's house without knowing them for a little
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And when I do, it's, I'm not having sex with you tonight, just to let you know.
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It's just something that should be communicated so that people aren't, I'm not out getting kicked out, and then the man's not pissed because he's not getting ass.
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I think a man should be able to hang out with a woman without having sex, though, I just want to say.
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Well, and he's doing me a favor if he's going to kick me out because I won't give up my vagina.
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Thank you for not wasting my time any longer.
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like now we're not wasting each other's time yeah i think that's that's uh to some degree fair but
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i don't think i also don't think it's wrong for men to have sexual desire and if this woman's not
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going to satisfy it he can find somebody else no of course he he should have his sexual desires
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completely met i still think that he should be able to have a hangout with her at some point or
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at some points without having sex it should go beyond say he is like look um maybe we don't have
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to have sex the first date but i would like to have sex you know he has a three date rule if it
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doesn't have and he's not saying this is like uh from a transactional perspective but this is in
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his internal rule he's like hey i want to uh i want to have sex by the third date and she's like
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i want to wait three months is it wrong for him to be like well i don't want to wait three months
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to fuck he doesn't have to wait three months he can end things but i will say it's like if you
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have a man like that who's expecting sex by the third date he should not be out here criticizing
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women for like their for like um promiscuity account yeah okay but that's kind of like i just
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want to mention that yes it's kind of like jesse peterson where it's like you know oh if a woman
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has sex with a bunch of men what does that make her a slut and it's like okay what does that make
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you a slut maker and it's like you're admitting that you're creating the problem right uh emily
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finishing off your notes your entire family hates your fiance what's the story there so when we first
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met like both of us didn't really have our shit together and now we're doing really good and we're
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about to buy a home and hopefully they come back into our lives they did invite me to dinner today
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but i am here so hopefully w whatever it gets better hopefully it gets better it'll get better
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okay is there is there it's just like you guys were not like now he's in the union with hvac like
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he was just um working on the beach when i first met him and i was working in a clothing store and
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Now I have a really good bartending position and he does HVAC in sales and we kind of grew together.
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You said that splitting the bill, the splitting the bill conversation gets you every time.
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I just, I really just think men should pay for the first date.
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I'm not saying that you should take me out to like a $300 dinner, but like my fiance and I, we ordered a pizza pie.
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what should women do though um like in what sense like on a date or just in general
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in general i think they are the emotional support of the family i think they make everything pretty
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and better like i think they make a house a home i think usually men provide the household but
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you know i make our apartment pretty i think my fiance would just sleep with a mattress on the
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floor if he didn't have me but i mean this is something i mean sometimes people might not move
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in together until like it can be months down the road we did move in pretty quickly okay but i mean
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you would agree that most relationships people are not moving in yeah we're that quick we're on
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usually yeah we're yeah so it's like but so what is the woman bringing prior to
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moving in together which can sometimes be way down the road
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emotional support maybe friendship i don't know emotional support yeah i find that oftentimes
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not all the time my man is my emotional support and i hope that i can be his too
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i i find most of the time though that not all the time um i find that i'm the one having to soothe
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the woman emotionally versus the reverse i agree and so it's like emotional the woman's the
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emotional support it's no it seems like i'm doing i hate this fucking term the emotional labor
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isn't sex a little bit of emotion though if they're having sex with you isn't that
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equal value exchange she gets sex i get sex we both or i feel like it's emotional support
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prior to moving in like you don't have to live with him to help him like if you're seriously
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dating someone and maybe he has a job like you where you're filming 12 hours every week and
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you're exhausted and she cleans your apartment and does your laundry that's a big help to you
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i would think no uh if she does that yeah do most women do that uh i would hope so i do but i don't
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think most women do unfortunately and i don't think most western women do either i think they
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want everything you can't just take take and take you have to give too okay uh all right um
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yeah i don't know about the like the men should pay thing i's always wondering why
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like i do uh but why he also had a better job than me at the time why should men i don't know
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it seems like it seems like look i guess here's what i'm getting at uh men should do x men should
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do y men should do z what can we say women should do there's expectations on men what are the
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expectations on women have sex with you have sex with you every day i don't know
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but she also gets sex and a lot of times she's like not all women i don't know again maybe can
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you tell me what you would like or give me a hint or somewhere in this well yeah like yeah of course
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like yeah laundry clean cook um i have one give me kids down the road but that's down the road
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that's down the road um so i'd be able to get to that down the road and in order to do that you
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have to biblically speaking biblically speaking a woman's role is supposed to bring my vagina for
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free a woman's role is supposed to bring peace to the home peace to the man that's like her
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yeah that's what i was getting at peace but the issue is the issue is that once again we're not
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living in biblical like in a biblical society so instead women are in verse and they're not
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bringing peace they're bringing chaos which is exactly why men are averse to getting married
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because they're like well what is the better like what brian just said too about in his home in the
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separate bedrooms do you think if someone's a guest in his house they really should be crashing
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out like that either like do you think that's appropriate adult behavior when you're in someone
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else's household well not only that you can kick someone out at that point that's like psychotic
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well that's the thing is the grasp on their own emotional awareness the grass definitely did not
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bring me thank you that's why you got a cat well that's why i think you should just put it out
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there just try it just put it out there i do i literally it's on my fucking girlfriend
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questionnaire it's the most autistic fucking thing ever the grass i went to see it though
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one day i will reveal the girlfriend i think no matter what you do if you're if you're trying to
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do like traditional, if those are your desires and expectations, I want a man to pay for the
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first date, provide, protect, et cetera. I think no matter what you do, there's a power imbalance
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that happens because women have the optionality to be choosier. And so in the beginning, it's
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unfortunate, but if I were a guy and I was interested in a girl and wanted a relationship
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with her, I don't know that I would risk not paying on the first date because she may be
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averse to that. I'm not saying it's fair, but on the flip side of that, from my worldview,
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there is a bit of a power imbalance. I try to demonstrate, um, you know, how I will be in the
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marriage. And then once I'm married, my husband has my complete and utter submission. And then
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he has the authority, he has the power, et cetera. I have paid for my boyfriend's things before,
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But I'm saying initially, like, when we're first starting off, you better pay for me, period.
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Well, the other question is getting into it, getting into it.
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Like, I'm cool to, like, hey, let's do this, let's do that.
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Yeah, but I just want to know that you're not using me and that you're going to provide.
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And then once you prove that, I'm all, hey, babe, let's go out to dinner.
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you said okay we already talked about the laundry thing skip that you say it's outrageous though
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outrage you're outraged when you hear me say the woman should do the laundry on the first day you
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know what i'm actually sometimes a gentleman though because hear me out uh it'll already be
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done in the dryer so she just has to fold i'm a nice guy right i'm a gentleman i'm not gonna have
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her put it in the washer transfer it to the dryer it's easy it's already doesn't have to handle your
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dirty laundry okay well my by the way um this changes everything my laundry is even before it
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goes into the the washer it's pretty much clean it's clean to be fair to me not like streak marks
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i'm not i'm not really traditional so i don't expect a mess on the first date so of course
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i'd be at first uh hold on hold on moving on uh two times you've been in a situation where a guy
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has told you it would ruin his life if you did not get an abortion in the case of pregnancy.
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It's true. Needless to say, neither of those relationships lasted. Yeah. So wait, did you
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get abortions? No. Okay. So they're saying if you got pregnant, um, it would ruin their lives
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if you did not get the abortion. Okay. But you didn't, okay. I see. Uh, you didn't actually get
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the abortions um okay conversation would just come up and they would tell me heart like are you
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pro-choice or pro-life um more pro-life okay uh you said a boyfriend strangled you while he was
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on drugs and you still stayed with him that's my current boyfriend oh wait hold on wait wait wait
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hold on i got wait is he sober now wait hold on is wayne brady gonna have the choker bitch
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Wait, so you write, you think modern dating encourages people to give up on a relationship after the slightest red flag.
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You value sticking through hard things and not giving up so easily.
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I think if a man tries to choke you, you can leave.
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choked you that's he has he has no memory of it most people who tried drugs once don't just
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strangle their partner though that's kind of a scary terrifying what's he gonna do when he gets
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a couple of beers has he ever choked you after or before no any other physical violence was he on
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shrooms and he thought you were a dragon and i'm sorry when you're on shrooms you're very nice and
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happy wait is that what happened he thought you were someone else or something else the thing
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about this trip like we've done shrooms together other times and it was fun this trip for him was
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different because he was being antagonized by his friends that aren't his friends anymore before i
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even got there so by the time i got there he was freaking out i would say morally he's in the clear
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because he had no idea that it was you because he was on shrooms but for your future life that is
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not a good thing to yeah obviously but listen he was freaking out and he did something similar
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what if this happens with your newborn child he wouldn't be on shrooms near a child okay
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why was he on shrooms he did something similar but less severe to his friends that were there
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before i was they were supposed to be watching him and look they wouldn't even have a conversation
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with him what i'm saying is how long you been with him uh 10 months oh that's not enough time
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yeah and this happened he's like she's like 10 years this happened this happened one month in
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i just don't think listen i don't think that's one little tiny thing it's crazy you deserve
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better girl you deserve please stand up you're trying to curse him just to be clear i don't
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think you should ever be in in either direction there should ever be any physical violence
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whatsoever however oh my goodness oh god oh my goodness hold on no hold on
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can there be a situation in like some fucking near end relationship argument and your girlfriend
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is saying some terrible shit uh again i would never do this i don't think it should happen
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or the woman hits the man right say the woman slaps the man once and they've been together
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for three years more likely or let's say the man and the woman been together for three years
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and he's never been violent to her before but she says something like and that's why your dad left
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you now look now look i don't think you should ever hit a woman but but i don't know forget
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everything else i just said i would never hit a woman but i could see a guy if a woman
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can it still work can somebody make a mistake these ladies would not know that it would never
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happen again it's like the sean connery thing it's like you never do it with an open you can
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give somebody a second chance but never a third no now let's see if you're consistent though let's
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see if you're consistent uh uh how about this wait let me change the framing a bit your girlfriend
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cheats on you and you want you just open again never do this you should leave you should break
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up with her okay but he slaps her across the face still not okay okay it's you shouldn't right it's
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over right boyfriend cheats on his girlfriend and she slaps him is there coming back from that
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i bet you women are like yeah probably i mean yeah i would probably slap him so but it's worse
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because he's physically but let's say they're like okay i cheated on you and you slapped me
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and she wants to make it work and he wants to make it work can it it won't work sorry you said
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you're allowed to have a double stand earlier we're allowed to have a double stander with this
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yeah should not hit women a man should not hit but it's okay for women it's not it's not ideal
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but it's not as bad Brian it's the big difference is you're stronger Brian stronger than the women
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look at Griselda look at her arms she looks strong that's a strong woman independent women
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Brian no but how much you weigh you're including you don't even need to answer that you don't even
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I know I actually I think we're missing something really important that she said
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which is the part about people giving up on relationships too quickly that doesn't apply
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hold on I entirely agree with that position and if like I'm I'm married so maybe it's a little
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bit different but I can tell you with certainty that like I'm I'm in this marriage 110 percent
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and if my husband like hauled off and slapped me which I know who I married and I don't think he
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would ever do it but i i wouldn't leave him over one time if it became a pattern that's something
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different i would say leave after the first time is there going back to the mexican i would is
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look is there ever a scenario where someone could say something so vile yeah so disturbing
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I've never hit a woman, you should never hit a woman
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I mean I'll tell her to get the fuck out of my house
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I'm just saying I'm interested in the double standard that exists.
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It seems like y'all give women leeway for slapping heads.
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I feel like once you get to that cross, the relationship is done.
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Let's say in the scenario, the man is weaker than the woman.
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he's married to like a steroid bodybuilder uh does that change anything well technically
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physically it's been proven that they're still stronger okay i still keep up the double standard
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if you get to that point the relationship is done no one's gonna go past that brian you're
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bringing up some like that's some like liberal thing to do to bring up like some exception
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like some bodybuilder true right like you said though you can say whatever you want to say there's
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other ways you can let out that frustration and that anger you can yell at her you can cuss her
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out like okay if she said something that foul cuss her out i'm just i still think that there's a
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breaking point though i still think men and women have their breaking point and there is something
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that if if someone says it it's almost like it's really hard basically if somebody like you
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shouldn't do it if my girl still shouldn't yeah if hold on i'm not going to talk about me i could
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see a man who has such a strong affinity for his father or his mother and his significant other
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was mouthing off about his mother or his father i could see i would never do it
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i would understand no you leave and you never give that woman the time of day again
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like i've never no listen you never hit a woman i would understand well i've never hit anyone i
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should still be open to giving them a second chance well actually if you're in the situation
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where you are getting domestic with a woman the woman can leverage it against you is the issue
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really like there is no appeal for a man if a woman gets physical with him in fact she could
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even hurt herself and claim that the man did it so i think that's the double standard legally even
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that's happening basically well how about uh how about this a woman slaps a man can he slap her
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back oh yeah no okay oh hold on hold on it depends like taylor frankie paul bridge the
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physical gap you need to get out of there okay what i do say what i will say about like a man
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being able to like defend himself is like a woman's like attacking him he does have the right
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to like push her off whole panel raise your hand if a woman slaps a man can he slap her back
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raise your hand i do actually agree with that no no no oh interesting you can push her to be clear
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To be clear, I want to make something very clear
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And I saw a girlfriend as hard as she fucking could
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And she calls him the n-word and slaps him
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no no no can the brother slap a bitch i just think yeah i think like you can be
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provoked to a certain point like i can say some real fucked up shit like so and i go there like
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if i know something like i don't even fuck your kid has cancer like i don't care i'm gonna go
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there too like i don't care you can always say something bad they go low you go low with your
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But it's going to hurt you more if your man talks about something personal, because we're emotional.
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So it'll stick with you, even if he's like, oh, I was mad in the moment.
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Okay, but he can still do that over hitting a woman.
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By the way, prescriptively, I would say, even though I say I would understand it, men, if a woman slaps you, extricate yourself from the situation.
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Even though I think you would actually be legally justified slapping her back, I guess.
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That's the issue, then she's allowed to go further
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That's what women usually do if they're hitting a man
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There's going to be white knight simps who are going to
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Fuck you up and then the cops are going to come
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Look you got you got fucking slapped you shouldn't
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Let's say there's a continuing threat from the woman
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Like, if she has a weapon and she's coming at you.
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If she's trying to kill you, that's the only reason.
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If a woman is coming at you and you've made a determination like you're now self-defense.
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But I feel like you should get out of that situation.
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If somebody's trying to punch you, you can punch them back.
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There is a duty to retreat in California, actually.
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You've got to mean stand your ground in your own house in California.
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If a robber breaks in, you're supposed to run away upstairs.
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If you get into a gunfight with a robber and you shoot them in the front,
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if they see bolt holes in the chest and not entering through the back,
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you will be tried and prosecuted in the state of California for that.
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because it showed that they weren't trying sorry if the bullet holes were in their back
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oh in the back if the bullet holes are in the back of a uh intruder you will be sent to jail
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in the state of california there's no castle doctrine no i'm pretty sure there's castle
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doctrine no california you don't have a duty to retreat i believe in california you do i mean
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look it up of course okay okay i'll say i will say the only thing i would um except from what
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i'm saying is like if she is pointing a gun at you or she has like a deadly weapon does california
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have castle doctrine but how are you gonna slap a woman with a gun in her hand it's like that's
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completely uneven you gotta use gotta slap you gotta use an equal amount of force for it to be
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okay what happened you gotta use an equal amount of force for it to be okay that's just not an
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equal it's kind of yeah so california does have castle doctrine but it's it's limited uh it says
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you have the you have the right to use force including deadly force inside your home if
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someone unlawfully and forcibly enters and you reasonably believe they pose an imminent threat
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of death or serious bodily harm there is a legal presumption in your favor if an intruder breaks
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into your home the the law generally assumes your fear was reasonable uh it applying it does apply
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mainly to your residence not to your car workplace or public spaces okay that's crazy uh the force
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used must still be reasonable under the circumstances it doesn't give unlimited okay stand
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your ground okay that's i might have been wrong might have been wrong on the stand your ground
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uh thing then but anyway i don't think it was wrong for me to have stayed with that guy there's
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no explicit duty to retreat if you're somewhere you're legally allowed to be however self-defense
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still hinges on reasonableness and necessity so anyways uh okay next topic then uh let me blast
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through these uh dude let's see oh yeah i need to do that um okay uh the boyfriend strangled you
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you got a guy banned from wing stop after give us the quick story um he'd had a crush on me for
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eight years i eventually agreed to go on a date with him i did and then he started showing up at
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my work all the time um he brought like his family in to meet me just like he was a little
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bit delusional and my sister priest to marry you my sister was the manager she was my boss and so
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i i told her about it as a joke and she was like send me his number and a picture of him
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and i was like okay just kind of as my sister but apparently as my boss she went to the
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district manager got him banned oh goodness okay uh you dated a guy named goose
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this fuck this freaking guy he genuinely had this delusion that he was the only real person in the
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world like he real we're in a simulation real honestly um how are you supposed to be in a
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relationship like i i want to say that but he wasn't diagnosed so like whatever if you have
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like no concept sorry i gotta move it on hannah um you got excommunicated from the lds church why
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is that i did uh because in high school i was being intimate with my high school boyfriend but
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that is not like on par for mormon culture at all that was like a very very weird like extreme
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uh i think i'll be right back like was he also mormon no no but the bishop at the time was like
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a high school teacher and i don't the whole thing was weird that's not normal it takes a lot in lds
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culture to get excommunicated so it wasn't even it wasn't the fact that i was excommunicated it was
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what was more hurtful was the things that people said or assumed because i was like people had
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like made assumptions that i potentially was pregnant and had an abortion or things where i
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was like i would never have like sarah stock stuff how they're like okay she cheated so she must have
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an abortion or something yeah exactly where it just that was never the case but that's the thing
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about those type of communities and i found it interesting when you said like oh you don't know
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what reality is anymore and christianity and all of that jazz yeah it's like when you leave a high
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thought control group not only does it make you super dependent on like the people around you but
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you you don't feel real anymore you're just kind of like grasping at straws um but yeah i'm like
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it's it's hard i was as i mentioned before i was raised jehovah's witness so i sympathize with
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year they do excommunicate you if you end up really oh 100 they'll excommunicate you over
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any little thing really um 100 um no in mormon church it's very hard to get your name i know
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that's why they're very nice huh yeah mormons are very yeah they actually typically they they
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really are they're my city of temeca there's like 20 percent mormon it's like it's like a little
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utah it's part of the culture the mormon culture they kind of recruit you yeah they're always
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smiling and stuff i mean it kind of works yeah i know honestly i got re-baptized though no but
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That's the thing, to go back to the whole like Christian subject since it was broached before, like the reason people say Mormons aren't Christians, what's your concept of the Trinity in Mormonism again?
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There's God, Jesus Christ, and then the Holy Ghost, and they're separate.
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I had the same struggle with the Jehovah's Witnesses where I'm like, but it's Christian, it's Bible-based, but it's like they believe that Christ is not God, so it's not Christian.
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But that's the thing, when you pervert it, immediately you start to see these bigger issues that come into play within those kind of high thought control groups.
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They have to be high thought control to keep you in because it doesn't actually make sense when you're still within it, basically.
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Wait, so what would it be then if it is the Church of Jesus Christ?
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Well, when it comes to, I mean, I know what they call it.
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But when it comes to, like, the Mormons, I don't know what heresies they were based off of.
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I know that they had, like, the belief that, you know, America is, like, Egypt, and, like, the whole Garden of Eden, I think, is in Florida.
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They believed in a bunch of pyramidology, and that's how they got into their conclusions.
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And they also believed in, like, modern-day revelation, which is not, like, typically a Christian thing to have somebody, you know, interpret it.
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1800s and however it'd be like, I have received word from God.
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Honestly, I would argue when it comes to modern dating, it was ruined in the 1800s by these
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Why is that? What? You wrote in your notes, disagree with
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Didn't you say before you don't think that men should pay alimony?
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So you maybe saw an episode where there, I think it was last weekend, a woman was on the show and she had been married to this guy for 10 years, 10 plus years.
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And then she had been split from him for 10 plus years.
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So he was also paying her child support, but that's subsided.
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But he's going to have to pay her alimony for life.
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Usually they do alimony, like I was married for eight years.
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They'll typically do at least like half, like four years.
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My understanding, though, and it obviously varies by state, is in California and perhaps other states, once you get past 10 years, you can get into lifetime alimony.
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so and with that can i also add i had a friend who when i was living here his wife cheated on him
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with the literal pool boy literally and he like was like i'm gonna kick her out he took her in
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even he's like i don't want to kick her out like she's got nothing she's got nowhere to go so he
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ends up raising this kid that's not his for two years and he knew it wasn't his because he had
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gotten fixed and they'd gotten it tested and stuff and um then they broke up and because she just
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wouldn't stop cheating on him and then california stuck him with the child support bill because
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two or more years if you're raising someone's kid in california you are stuck with the child
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support bill wait so it's not his kid not his kid they let him know he thought it was but he
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committed he committed to raising that kid at that point so i'm like but she didn't wait just
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to be clear she tricked him she cheated on him with a pool boy they had a pool a literal pool
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boy and he was like being a nicer person he didn't want to kick her out he'd like you know
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because she was pregnant. That was his wife. He was stupid. Two years later, she continued to cheat.
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He said, get out of here. And then she took him to court, $5,000 a month he had to pay. And then
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they let him move to another state. So he didn't get to see this kid either. Well, this is definitely
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something that happens. So even if the kid's not biologically yours, but you are bamboozled and
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the woman cheated and you were acting as if you were the father, then yeah, you can be on the hook
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for child support for a kid that isn't even yours that is ridiculous um i don't think that that
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should be the case they have to change the laws uh child support laws are very anti uh male at
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least in that regard um that was in california okay but alimony um i think you could maybe make
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an argument that like if the woman uh gave up her career i feel like i did that like i like how my
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next husband get through special forces and like I did all my nursing prereqs with kids and I was
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like okay it's not realistic to have a husband that is gone all the time in trainings and then
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I like I want to be at home with my kids so I definitely feel like I put myself on the back
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burner to support him and then I felt like in the end it did screw me over a little bit a lot of it
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yeah I mean I think that there's some compelling arguments as to alimony but there should be a
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limited scope of it i agree so i don't think in any scenario stepping stone to help them yeah i
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i don't think like i three three years ought to be the max like i don't i i don't see beyond three
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years okay you've been separated for this amount of time i can't understand a reason why you need
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to have some perpetual financial obligation to a woman like should i should should men get like
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one blow job a month from her no because it's forever oh we've been but hold on as a man it's
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you know once i'm in my 40s it's harder for me to get blow jobs you know it's harder to date as a
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man once you're older and i i don't have as much access to bjs you know so maybe once a month you
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know she could give a blowy well no because i think if you've been married let's say like 10
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15 years you're developing like a skill set as a man or you're getting education so like you're
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able to make significantly more money so i think to just be like okay well you just put 15 years
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of your life or however long i'm just saying you know on the side but this is now i'm gonna give
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you three years to make up for that i think three years is totally fine that should be enough for
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somebody to get back on their feet but um this assumes that all women who get married are genius
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iq women that that had they not gotten married they would have invented a bill they would have
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had a billion dollar idea and they would have been the CEO of the company or could it be that
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a woman was a waitress when you met her and her life circumstances probably would not have changed
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substantially had you not married her from my perspective this woman if you've been married
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to her for 10 years who was a waitress when you met her she actually her life circumstances have
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she didn't have to pay rent for the entire time that seems like quite quite a uh privilege quite
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the benefit that she received she didn't have to pay for anything during this entire time
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well she can go right back to being a waitress where she like she can go right back to doing
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what she was doing or say she's a hairdresser okay you didn't do hair okay you didn't do
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hairdressing here's three years of alimony should you get 20 years of alimony that's ridiculous
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Well, to reverse engineer the argument, I mean, the same can be said for women who delay settling down in their 20s and then want to settle down in their 30s or 40s, where it's like you don't have pity or remorse for a woman who can't get a good man at that age.
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Likewise, if a man ends up throwing away a marriage, as happened in Hannah's case, it's like, well, he doesn't get pity or sympathy for having thrown away something where she invested her youth into him, she committed to him, and he wanted to just find something else, basically.
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Advantage of a woman's youth who committed to him
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How is it taking advantage of a woman's youth
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It's a beautiful thing that's not taking advantage
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You're already successful you're already stabilized
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She should enjoy the fruits that she grew with you
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yeah that's why women want the the security of marriage yeah uh so i mean if the if you want us
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to be submissive and like like in that sense like for real and like be the wife that can like stay
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at home take care of the things take care of the kids and help you further your career i think it's
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fair to say hey if something goes awry i think you should help me get back on my feet on top of
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that if someone breaks a contract of marriage you should be penalized for having broken that
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contract whether it's the man or a woman well hold on um some states i don't recall perhaps
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all the details hannah so your ex-husband you were married correct yeah and he cheated on you
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or what happened there there's just a lot of substance abuse like when i left you were using
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substance or him no him when i left our electricity was getting turned off our phones were getting
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shut off so i went instead of my best friend's mom and then my aunt drove out paid for the gas
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to get out to utah well in this case he it seems like he doesn't have any money to pay alimony
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anyways is that yeah i mean or he's not in a good financial position asking well yes um but again i
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still think three years is more than enough time but i mean uh angelica if a woman say the woman
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is the cause of the breakup of the relationship say she cheats the current uh legal landscape
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the man still has to pay her alimony i know still has to pay her money i don't agree and that's
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Exactly. I know. One of my best friends that just happened to them, there were two couples
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and they were all friends and the couples like had an affair. It's evil. And she, she, he ended
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up still having to pay her out, give her alimony, give her child support. And I feel like he got
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screwed in that situation. Evil. But I do think though, if a woman say prior to entering the
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marriage, say she wasn't on some pathway to becoming some major CEO and she was living
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paycheck to paycheck working a minimum wage job you divorce her she divorces you it's a return to
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one's previous standing um but who so uh the pizza place is closed but i i have bagel bites who wants
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some bagel bites i got i made some bagel bites okay and there's two more in the freezer if anybody
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i mean there's only like nine in the package are they gluten-free just kidding i'm just kidding
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what's that he said are they gluten probably not um okay your most memorable dating uh the largest
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home developer in utah he was 25 years old he managed to keep 25 years older oh excuse me
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you're excuse me uh he was 25 years older than you age gap he managed to keep you under wraps
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for a year and a half you were building a home together and it was just a couple months from
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being finished after one and a half years you finally met his youngest daughter who was 18 at
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the time with your two kids the next day you got a butt dial from him with another woman
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yeah that was really hard damn and you recorded the convo yeah and it went viral
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yeah it was pretty crazy wait he so it was a like a voicemail he was leaving it was in a car
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with another woman and i like kind of by the grace of god my little sister was actually visiting and
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And so I thought it was like maybe an employee or a realtor that he was talking to.
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And then based on all the things he was saying, like, let me see your panties.
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Literally within two seconds of hanging up, gives me a call.
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Yeah, what age were you when you started dating him?
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so what am I 33 like I think it was I remember I just had turned 30 and he was like he made
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comments like it just sounds better that you're 30 just sounds better you're 30 I had I know this
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is like crazy I had zero interest in dating him because of the age gap I've always been drawn to
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like a little bit older just because of maturity wise especially with being married for eight years
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having two kids like I don't like see myself marrying a 22 year old right but I he definitely
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when I say like grooming it very much felt like grooming where he definitely latched onto my
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situation full-time single mom definitely flexed his job and stability and we became just friends
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like I know it sounds so weird but we he would literally ask me to meet in Maverick parking lot
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we just talked for hours he wasn't trying to be your friend well I know this hold on let me just
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put in a work okay what what age were you when you started date uh when you met him I I think
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I was 29 and then I had turned 30. What age was he? He was what? He was 56 I want to say.
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56 okay so 25 years and you said it was borderline grooming I mean you're 30 years 30 years old I
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don't think. No no I get but I just mean like. This is grooming. I mean like in the sense that
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I think he took advantage of my situation and knew what he was doing and I was in this like
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oh I like talking to this guy. Wouldn't you be taking advantage of your situation having better
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looks only being 29 years old like you can look at it from the other way around though i mean
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financially wait he was taking advantage of you financially in a very unfortunate financial
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position with my kids wait did you move in together with him no were you living with him
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was it no oh okay no but he wait can we distribute the bagel bites who wants a bagel bite show of
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hands and we're gonna have to probably do all of them maybe we can make more more of a batch
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okay you are you're each gonna get i think like one right now but we have like count me out we
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have more we have more okay uh joy you don't use dating apps you meet everyone organically in a
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grocery store work hobbies you met your ex at work and it was a great two years until it wasn't
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wait scoot into the table scoot into the table let me blast through this this is your one
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uh yeah yeah that was it okay you meet that was that was my uh first boyfriend but when you say
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you meet everyone organically do they come up to you or do you go up to them um i only went up to
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two guys um did you eat all the bagel bites oh well before we start a new one while we distribute
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what we have please uh which is like seven bagels bites okay so do you go up to them or do they go
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up to you my last boyfriend no um I liked him but he always looked like strange like just kind of
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walking around like he just wasn't into anybody so I asked his friend to kind of ask him to hit
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me up or tell his friend that I liked him type deal like just put it put it on the plate and
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just bring the plate over and then yeah just all of them just and we'll pass around the plate
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He's, like, interrupting you about the bagel bites.
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Are we allowed to do that here, or is this not the Howard Stern show?
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No, I was saying I told him to put the bagel bites on a plate,
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and then we'll pass it around the plate with the bagel bites like a joint.
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why is the bagel bite situation so complicated right now i'm just um okay do you smoke weed
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yeah here just pass it to shona she'll pass them around all right well we have like a bunch more
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packages so we'll open up more i know it seems like poverty right now it's like we're fucking
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i feel like i'm in a trailer in arkansas what is yeah yeah what is the uh we're rationing
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Wait, they're not hot? The cheese isn't even melted.
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This way, this way, this way. I microwaved it for the appropriate...
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Anna, you say if a man is cheap and it has the, she's just trying to mooch off of me mentality,
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You're an independent woman, but you want to provide her, not a leech.
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You're an independent woman, but you want to provide.
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oh simplified that ghost don't stop stop sorry sorry um because i want i want a man
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to provide i've been used wait say what i'm an independent woman i'm an independent woman
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i am but going into a relationship i would like my man to provide or at least being able to not
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leech off of me and provide for himself okay that's different but uh typically a provider
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you would thus be dependent on the provider man.
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Not really, because I could, like I said earlier,
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I literally have just dumped guys because I don't need them.
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Technically, you could be an independent woman,
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but it is more beneficial for the man to spend all his money.
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it would be more beneficial for me to like date a woman who makes 10 like uh 10 million dollars a
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year and she pays for everything like that i'm still technically have the capacity for independence
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but she should pay for the shit okay i get it you dated a craigslist killer in san diego
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what uh you didn't know he was a craigslist killer until you saw his mugshot on facebook pop up so
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when you met him he was on bail and you had no idea he just disappeared and then one day his
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He was actually studying. He said he was in med school.
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We weren't in a dating series, but we were talking
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you know what I mean and like kind of getting to know each other okay and then he had this really
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weird obsession with cuckolding very weird okay what is cuckolding uh what like wanting to see
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your girl get fucked by another guy yeah and so that's when I was like I'm done with this guy and
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I like backed off because it was just so all of a sudden like we would he would like message me
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on snapchat and I would be nice and respond but I stopped hanging out with him because of it okay
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well that's the scariest part about the cuckolding thing because when his mug shop and i it was the
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longest article of my life he um was in search of a cuckolding situation in on craigslist and they
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were actually trying to tie him to other craigslist killings not just this one and as the story goes
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he was trying to find a cuckold on craigslist and he found this man who wasn't like a trans woman
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He literally called himself a cross-dresser.
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Well, he finally confessed and said, hey, I'm actually not this couple.
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I'm a man that likes to dress up like women.
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And he went over there and murdered that man in a wig.
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blood print his blood his fingerprints with blood were everywhere and for some reason the state of
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california let him out on bail he was on a bill for five years in prison no no he is that's that's
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somebody else but he didn't do this while i met him he did it five years previously and he's out
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on bail for five years like looking for cuckolding situations that's terrifying uh okay you once went
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on a three-year sabbatical from dating so no touching no kissing anything with men and then
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And the year that you started dating, every date back to back to back was wild, including one time you were at the guy's house.
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And a girl started pounding on his door, and he instantly pretended to fall asleep.
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That was my first date after not touching a man for three years, by the way.
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And wait, so on the three-year dating sabbatical, so you were celibate during that period of time.
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During the three years, you were totally celibate.
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We put it in for the designated amount of time, so I don't know.
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What was the turning point to stopping your sabbatical?
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This was like getting myself back into the dating scene.
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For a guy I was dating that I knew for over a year, yeah.
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uh how quickly did you uh wait for the guy you broke your streak with
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i think like a year year and a half whoa whoa wait hold on we were friends first we met as
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friends and then like one day he confessed his love okay yeah so after he confessed after he
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confessed his love how soon after that did you guys have cardinal knowledge
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uh a couple weeks but i like i said we'd been hanging out for like 18 months getting to know
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each other he wasn't a random guy you knew him yeah like i trusted him because he was like my
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friend first kind of thing but during the sabbatical was there any dating like were you
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hanging out with men but you're like okay i wasn't even on dating apps no i didn't even hug
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shake hands like i'm actually like that now i'm not dating either uh okay and then prior
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to damn she's munching down on this okay get it girl ASMR I was thinking like how much would it
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suck though like let's say you were dating during that celibacy period so you're still dating but
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not sleeping with any of the men and some guy like was like I'm gonna hold out I'm gonna wait
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six months and then like you break and then you decide to break your celibacy and then you just
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like fuck a guy right away like how fucking terrible would it be if uh like a woman tells
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you she's been celibate for three for three years she's not doing anything and then you've been
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dating her for three months she breaks up with you she decides to end her celibacy streak and
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then she fucks a guy a week later not saying you did that no i like i said this guy was my friend
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yeah holy fuck okay i actually dumped him like it was like we were like really good friends and
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then we dated for like two weeks and then i dumped him like he just wasn't i wasn't he was not he was
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a good friend he was a horrible guy like an australian a famous australian dude yeah who
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can you say who or uh well he was a australian like kind of like the justin timberlake of the
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mickey mouse club he was a childhood movie star yeah yeah well my australian friends were like
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you used to date him we used to watch his show growing up it was like the mickey mouse club of
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australia they're gonna figure out who it is um his name is matt healy hi matt oh shit wait let
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was he somebody that you used to know yeah but we met at an intersection in san diego and like
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one of those things where we were like wait hey you come here he's australian he was aussie yeah
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and so my aussie friends were like he used to date him like we used to watch his show
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no it was a it was like it was like the mickey mouse club of australia you're gonna have to look
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like back into the 90s that's i think that's what i was thinking was the musician
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uh yeah he wasn't shit we can't find them well australian all my australian friends
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all of my australian friends were like you dated him we used to like watch his show growing up
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that's hilarious was he about your age or yeah okay whatever um i don't need to look it up but
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you said he whisked you whisked you around the world for a year and that was pretty romantic
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Yeah, so we saw each other at an intersection in San Diego.
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We pulled an all-nighter, not in the sex sense,
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Three months later, he wanted to come to California.
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and he took me like lavishly all around san diego for new year's and then he said i have a surprise
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for you now new year's is december 31st my birthday is january 10th he said i'm gonna go
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back to australia and in a couple weeks you are meeting me in hawaii and we went on a two-week
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trip lavish trip to hawaii like all over and then like six months later he's like we he's like i
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either want to move to america or i want you to come to australia but i think i'm gonna move to
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america but i want you to meet my family so i bought a ticket which was two thousand dollars
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because i wanted to show him that like i was serious about this and he had been paying for
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like everything so i bought a ticket took time off work you know got the kids arranged etc etc
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and like a week before the trip he's like don't come here anymore and like drops off the face of
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the earth well at the time i was working for this really wealthy family i was a nanny at the time
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and they were like fuck that dude you're like family to us i'm sending my wife with you and
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i'm paying for everything and so we ended up going over there and like climbing the sydney
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harbor bridge like going to airs rock in the middle of the outback um and he said my boss
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said to me why the fuck i'm sorry what you know sometimes like sometimes women will like include
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irrelevant information in a story sorry go ahead sorry sorry did i just say well i'm not done you're
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cutting me off. Did I just say that? You're not done?
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So anyways, my boss said, if you leave my wife for this guy, even if it's for a few hours, I'm going to fire you.
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I just needed closure, to be honest with you.
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He got pissed, took me to the airport, and just started bawling his eyes out and said I was the love of his life.
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is there edibles in these bagel bites yes they are uh weed infused bagel bites
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man that's a good that's crazy though i feel like after dating him i how do you do you find
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it difficult to date normal guys i don't didn't give you that princess treatment i feel like
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if a girl like okay i feel like there's a degree of when it comes to dating like let's say you date
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a really rich guy maybe there's a bit of a not culture shock but there's a shock to like you go
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from dating like a super wealthy guy who jets you around and he buys you gifts and he takes you to
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all these nice restaurants and he does xyz and then you go date the guy who works at walmart
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it's like that's a bit of a culture shock like it's a bit of a like i don't know if i was dating
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um a hot chick and then i dated a fat chick
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it's how do you go back how do you go back it's like it's like how about this you date a uh you
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a woman dates a guy who lives in a dorm room maybe you guys went to college you you went to the dorm
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room and this fucking you got to put a sock on the door or whatever you got to be like you got
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and sometimes let's be honest ladies have you ever fucked while your roommate was in the room
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really nobody's done that why she's smiling this is a college thing this is a definitely
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college thing especially if you're in like a dorm but like that's not right come on now
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no like you should try but like it definitely happens like i don't know at least from back
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in the day people i don't know what friends you have right yeah i think it's a guy thing
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but then it's like imagine no but imagine you're like either a guy or a girl and you used to like
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have to fucking sneak around and shit to fuck and uh there was like your fucking roommates passed
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like sleeping in the room while you're quietly trying to fuck in a bunk bed in a triple bunk bed
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and then it's like then you date a guy or a woman they have their own house
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that's like fucking and then how can you go back to like from that or even if you're just living
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you're living in a house you have your own house how do you go back to living sharing a room with
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somebody you can't you can't do it so like in that same thing how do you get flown around and
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some guy takes you to Hawaii how do you go back to like well because I went back to doing it for
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myself take you to McDonald's for our anniversary how do you go back it's kind of like you know what
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it's kind of like sex you know what I'm talking about Hannah what what what's that supposed to
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mean no well nothing but you know it's like sex it's like once you've had really good sex
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how do you go back Hannah and Emily and everybody no I'm not picking on you I'm just trying to draw
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you guys in and get your attention uh how do you go back to bad sex once you've had good sex it's
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like that's the bar for what you want and it's like if you go back it's like like once you've
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had a really good hamburger i saved the best for last once you have a really good hamburger
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really good steak and then you're gonna like have like a denny's steak or like a denny's burger it's
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like oh fuck so it's like um it depends like once you've had a giant labia it's like how do you go
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back to like a woman with like an any it's just you're fucked you're giga or like no no no how
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about this a woman who sorry am i being autistic right now how once you've once you've had sex
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with a woman who's multi-orgasmic and can come like i'm not even exaggerating like five seconds
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10 seconds later 10 seconds later and then you gotta go back and have sex with a woman
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how do you go back to, like, fucking the girl
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How do you go back to fucking the girl who can't
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who's just fucking coming like crazy sometimes or so you think and so you throw those out the
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window okay anyways someone's definitely lied to you final final note from my home girl over
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there in the corner my my labia plasty queen and by the way i'm just curious on the labia plasty
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is there is there some remain did they leave a little bit or is it they just made it they made
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This is what we've been talking about this whole time.
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butterfly wings help me understand yes arby's help you understand it
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does it really affect the sexual performance like in the act does it really really matter
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for you like does it feel better what what is it you do you guys want the answer yeah the answer
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so it is visual but also physically it feels better for you are you like actually dead ass
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about this whole i'm so fucking it's like lipstick grip so okay look by the way if a
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wouldn't an innie group better because it's like not necessarily you're like weird uh an innie so
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okay an innie is not a deal breaker i'll still date a woman with an innie i'm a gentleman i'll
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i'm nice like you're the only man you know what there are some other men who also have this uh
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liking of like probably bisexual i've actually never heard of this in my life bro oh my god
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back in my day we call that beef curtains yeah you want to like a woman equivalent to a woman
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saying she legitimately likes a small dick no a circumcised oh like small wait women do prefer
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circumcised yeah oh no sorry i don't care sorry oh yeah yeah sure that's fair that's fair i think
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i think most women prefer circumcised yeah but there's probably definitely women out there who
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well i think this would be somewhat geographic because like in europe a lot of european countries
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it's like that's what they're used to the first i think they still even prefer the circumcised
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No, yeah, it would be like a woman who likes the uncut pee-pee.
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For a man, it's more pleasurable if they aren't cut.
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When a guy is erect, my understanding is it's mostly the same.
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There's a bit of extra skin, but it's mostly the same.
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No, because what was explained to me when I had my O shot done, because then I asked
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about the men too, a man when they're not cut is more sensitive because their skin is
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So like the rubbing that the guys get from their pants and their underwear, that makes
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So they actually say men are more pleasured who are not circumcised.
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You're removing the G spot when you get circumcised.
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That's why they say it's up the butt now, but it's not up the butt.
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But actually, we need to ban circumcision.
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We're going to ban circumcision and labiaplasty.
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Deport everyone who practices circumcision.
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Did you know for the first time in decades, America has less circumcisions this year than
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where were we we're talking you had a question about labia yeah like you i just can't believe
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that that's for real in my day in my day we call that if you guys know her ends have you heard a
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beef curtain send them your way send them my way yeah send them it's like i want to make a sir mix
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a lot baby got back song but about labia like you're not going to wait friday do you do you
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ask about it on your application you don't have to show the application 100 questions is it on
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there so it is on the application it is on the application actually i would personally prefer
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a woman should dm me and she should just be like hi brian i want to have seven children i want to
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i want to stay at home i want to do your laundry and i have a huge labia that's like the best
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opening message that is the best interesting so you prefer your woman not to work because you
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you said that that's what you prefer like she's gonna be working in the house yeah
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i got a backyard she's gonna be working in that yard i'll tell you what she's gonna be
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you think you're gonna find yourself a trad wife who like describes her genitalia
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to her to someone that she's not married to like that's not gonna happen all it takes is one
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that's not gonna happen it's gonna happen one of these days i feel it look there's some look
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i think you have some complete conflicting wants i'm just saying like uh but he's not gonna die
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for her the sir mix a lot song he's got a segment like some dudes like to hold on let me look
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baby got back hold on baby got back uh lyrics uh my anaconda don't want want none unless you
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I pull up quick to retrieve it because I'm a – never mind.
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seconds met a guy met a guy on a dating app this was during after my sabbatical went on it went
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on one date with him it was weird he asked me he said he was working from out of town he asked me
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to pick him up he left his cell phone at the hotel so i thought that was kind of weird and then
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during dinner he abruptly blurts out that he's married but he swears to god that his wife does
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not care they have an open marriage i said i don't care if you have an open marriage i'm not into
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that shit so goodbye i immediately ended the date two weeks later i get a text message from his wife
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because she must have been looking through his phone records or whatever and she called me
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bawling her eyes out and she just said i gave this man everything i bought him a car when he
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like she gave him a green card she put clothes on his like he came with absolutely nothing and she
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like fed housed and now he's out on dates and then telling her that he and then swearing up
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and down to me that he's i swear i'm sorry can i help here man bad man did bad things
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what was the so tell us the like quick deportation well so then she was like well my family's been
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telling me he's been using me for a green card fuck this dude and in order for him to stay
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man bad yeah in order for him to stay in the country
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when you do that riley what is wrong with you how dare you riley how dare you i'm sorry you're
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not interesting riley he said 67 seconds oh my goodness riley as a conservative riley who have
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you gotten deported no one no unfortunately not that is true that is true i would not so anyways
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i didn't do this she called me she asked the details he was screwing with me and screwing
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with her i gave her the details and she said in order for him to stay like his green card is
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contingent upon our marriage being in good standing i guess in two weeks he had a marriage
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in good standing like meet up with vhs i guess they have to like have these meetings every so
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everything that he did. And this was like right
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I would never have, even if I could have her deported, I wouldn't do it.
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I wasn't, to be honest with you, I wasn't looking for that.
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I was just answering her questions, and I was pissed at him, too.
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I answered my questions, led to her going to DHS and reporting him.
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that girl over there who works for me i gave you the raw tomatoes no no hey not all asian people
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not all asian people look alike okay that was a different asian woman i know
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you know she is asian uh griselda how you're 33 33 uh question when did you get the neck tattoo
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you know what i need do you have kids by the way i do i have two two girls how much does a neck
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tattoo how much does it uh well this one was what like probably 200 bucks that could have been
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a quinceanera no they're like 15 grand if you've been no proper it could have gone towards a
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quinceanera and you spent your daughter's quinceanera money on a neck tattoo that's
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Are you talking shit about Riley's fucking tie?
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I'm actually commuting back and forth with somebody, actually.
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You can't be any age to get a tattoo or a piercing, whatever.
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resilient here on her neck I would think that she can give yes I don't even want to say it but
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okay but I don't know I just feel like did your husband was your husband on board yeah does he
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have tattoos none oh so he's crazy so you're the one in charge woman yeah you're the one in charge
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in the relationship then I mean not really like I said it's just a 50-50 because like so he told
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you he approves but does he actually approve all my tattoos i got him while i was with him
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like he was okay with it you didn't get those when you were younger huh you got a septum piercing
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yeah i got it while you're with him yeah i got it i got my naples pierced when i when i was with
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him oh that's kind of badass and then you have a rose tattoo here which is a bit covered by the
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yeah this one right here yeah yeah uh and it's a butterfly it's a butterfly yeah and it's not even
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done it has color like 30 32 yeah neck god forbid she looks good why not are you in a gang no i just
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like tattoos she owns a vegan business she's not it's just a different aesthetic than what you
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a little closer to the mic tattoos are you know doesn't matter what age you are it's like any
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type of modification that you to your body yeah it's terrible well i understand you can get a
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tattoo at any age but i guess the question is why what because i like him just because of that
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all right do you have tattoos brian i have zero tattoos also it's a lot different for men
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it is different no no i was just wondering i actually don't have tattoos they cause cancer
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that's my biggest issue and apparently you're in like a low level whenever you have a tattoo
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especially if you have a lot of tattoos you're in a constant like low level uh immune response
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to the tattoo is my understanding um it's always trying to eat it creates like my understanding
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it's very like minimal like to the point it's almost negligible but your body is like slightly
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always in an immune response which can create a stress on your immune like slight it's pretty
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slight stress on i'm vegan so it only creates i'm very healthy well if you're vegan and you're
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doing heroin like you're still doing well i don't do any drugs i don't drink no but what i'm saying
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is like just because you're vegan okay nevermind i don't think it's stress for like four months
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no it's like been known to like lifelong but maybe i'm full of shit no you're not i actually
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it's negligent after a certain amount of time after it's healed over i mean i think your body's
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always trying to no because it's still it's still there eat up the molecules but they're too big
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but that doesn't but that's an autoimmune response what do you think about hey you've been talking
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way too fucking much tonight be quiet no yeah uh what you have tattoos what do you think
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closer to the mic they were just all impulsive do you speak japanese yes
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konnichiwa let's hear it like valorant like say something like what
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i don't know some like wife uh some what's the fucking way who white
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way who no i'm thinking of wave kawaii kawaii kawaii some weeb shit
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You have, like, an AK-47 on your sternum, sort of?
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How's that normal to get a tattoo on your neck?
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But, yeah, once they're an adult, they can do whatever they want.
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It'll make it harder for them to find a high-quality man
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because high-quality men do not like women with tattoos.
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Are you the high-quality man we're talking about?
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You're not high-quality men without a college degree.
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No, because I said you don't have a college degree.
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I do not need a college degree to prove myself.
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Just because you got straight A's doesn't mean you got a degree.
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Wait, just because you graduated from college doesn't mean you're high value.
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I think education adds to a man's value completely.
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You don't need an education, but when you're negotiating how much you're going to get paid,
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Like, hey, I have a master's degree, so I want to get paid.
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I don't know, this man thought Cambodia was in South, you said South Asia, Southwest Asia.
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I mixed up East and West, I perfectly described where Cambodia.
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East and West, you don't know East, you don't know, never eat soggy waffles.
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I perfectly explained to you that Cambodia is wrapped between Thailand and Vietnam and it's a little circle country that's landlocked.
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But you also don't think there's Muslims in the UK.
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I never said I didn't think there were Muslims in the UK.
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If you date Taddy Woman, if you date a woman that has tattoos.
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Tattoos are not a deal breaker, but it is my preference that it's minimal or no tattoos.
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So you're under the mindset that you wouldn't put a bumper sticker on a Bentley, basically.
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no i understand what she's saying it is a saying like you don't put a you wouldn't put like a
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bumper sticker on a ferrari or something but uh it's not a deal breaker although some tattoos are
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like strongly strongly like okay she has a heart on her wrist very minimal would i prefer she
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doesn't have it yes but like my objection to it is pretty negligible she has a heart on her ankle
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okay not a deal breaker don't really care butterfly in the chest that once you okay face
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tattoos neck tattoos wait i have a meme somebody with tattoos i'm actually kind of judgmental
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about tattoos because like i i think as a woman particularly having face neck chest uh discord
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resources memes discord resources memes you're gonna scroll up like uh like
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six and you're going to see a tattoo one do you have it quick quick tiffany quick tiffany before
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i deport you i'm revoking your h1b visa do you have it t-dog tiffany pull it up yeah
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oh it's so facts and then go to the other one sorry tiffany this is
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Tiffany has tattoos she's not enjoying this
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uh here let me blast through this women part let me blast through this uh okay the tattoo thing
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uh you have a christian tattoo too are you christian i think uh not really not really i'm not
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you said you dated a lot of bad guys i have uh who would mistreat you yes until you met your
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husband who's the opposite he's a great guy he's a nice guy yeah uh and when you say bad guys can
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you give us a quick list of details and were they mexican hey i'm so fucking lovely yeah i mean
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you know well being from mexico i dated a lot of cartel people
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okay oh my god you can't was that the i don't think it was no it wasn't the tripod
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But let's, she does need her, she needs her inhaler, yes
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I'm from actually from the border, you know. Juarez?
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Which is, you know, yeah, it's the border to Texas, actually.
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uh okay so but so were they drug dealers were they violent were they i mean you can just imagine i
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mean if he's a boss of the cartel in that city yes i mean there were drug dealers they were
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crossing people across the border everything everything like yes absolutely yikes okay um
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yeah i mean but again i was very young and stupid also you know i kind of regret doing that to be
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honest but yeah i mean that was kind of like my whole uh you know when i was growing out that was
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the type of guys i was dating i see i see uh and would they hit you uh like they mistreated you
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i want to say yes like this guy the one that i dated that was actually like kind of like the
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boss yes he put a gun to my head yeah he put a gun to your head absolutely more than once
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uh he did it twice were you like why i mean again it's just again it's a different culture i guess
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and this let's just put it this way like he kind of if i if i if i'm not with him he's gonna kill
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me type of thing you know so shit yeah no shit that's what i said in the very beginning i was
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like that's why i won't date mexican men they have that same mindset well but not everybody again
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I just want to say, I've met some wonderful Mexican people.
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So there's like, that's, I think it's most Mexican men do not want to hold guns up to their girlfriends.
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this is like a you know this i'm talking about someone really specifically someone that is like
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like i said like it was like do you still hang out like know him not hang out with him do you
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still like keep in touch or no no he actually ended up in jail he's already in jail i like
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does he have a wikipedia page uh i think so dude like i think i saw him once and i was like can we
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look this up official i feel like we should uh okay that's um did you okay um you think you need
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to host more diversity on girls to talk on the podcast you see a lot of only fans girls influencers
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or sex workers but rarely ladies like you that actually have a real job and can share more
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opinions from the majority of the female population that don't have the but i mean like
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aside from her no no yeah but most of our shows it's like one or two of girls or whatever i feel
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like well lately i don't know what i was watching i felt like there was a lot of only fans girls
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and i feel like as i respect what they do you know but i don't well i i offense you're you're
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pleasant enough i guess i i respect what they do you know but i feel like wait are you christian
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Oh, for some reason, I saw you had a Christian tattoo.
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Frankie, you have Fae them as your pronouns in your bio.
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No, it was on your, I think, in the notes that you provided.
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okay uh barbara you have two master's degrees but prefer to be in the kitchen
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facts why is that um wait can you say that in your own words yeah i have two master's degrees
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but prefer to be in the kitchen i uh why is that yeah i just uh i actually really enjoy cooking
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and baking and you know particularly for you know my husband and my daughter and if i could just
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stay home and tend to the house and take care of my husband and child I would but financially that's
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not an option at the moment why'd you get the master's degrees then because it's a lot of money
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you know to get those degrees yeah um part of them was paid for because uh my first graduate
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program the master's in English I was actually like a TA the whole time and so like I actually
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came out of that with no debt and they actually paid me a stipend because I taught undergrad
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while i was getting the master's and then i taught college for a while and so uh while i was teaching
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college they needed someone to get dual certified to teach com in addition to english and so uh the
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college i was working for paid for half of that degree so okay but i'm assuming you have to pay
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for the other one and is it worth paying for if you don't get to like use it i mean unless you
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have the means and you just want to learn more but that's why it's kind of worthless for women
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to go to college learn from her learn from her i said if they use it learn okay we're going to
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blast through the final uh rapid fire question segment uh let's see here uh is anybody here
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asian like part of asia uh yeah is your boy you're married right is he white asian what what is he's
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white okay and question so and you're how old are you again 25 you're 25 you're married you have a
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white husband uh are you or have you been attracted to asian men you're japanese so when i was younger
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yeah but as i got older now just curious really quick why is that like looks wise or was it a
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personality thing or uh well okay when i got older it was just mostly looks but like when i was
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younger i used to watch korean shows and i did not like the way they kissed
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can you give us an example just that's adorable yeah it wasn't like overlapping it was just
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face to face they're very efficient with very efficient people i feel like okay uh that's
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interesting um are you attracted i guess when you were single um were you attracted to asian men
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no uh just wait question for you would you uh would you rather date a black man or an asian man
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like if you were single asian i guess you guess okay uh would you rather date a latino man or an
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asian man uh latino latina so you go both ways would you rather date a white man or an asian
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man i because your husband get this girl her inhaler um okay uh let's see here does anyone
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here think i i am a misogynist now's your chance now's your chance don't send it in my dms oh my
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god sometimes sometimes a misogynist any what okay what what i think i said it earlier in the
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that's that's totally different it's a woman's
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Can anybody do the Vietnamese nail salon voice?
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I should have said I should have had y'all do the entire show in a Vietnamese
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I don't even know another that's it you want you want gem on your hand
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it's very like a vibration I don't know how to put it it's very
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an Asian girl like what are your preferences
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okay you know i just you know no offense to the black women here i just feel like the black women
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they're not really into me i just feel like i'm not i'm for black yeah she knows i just feel like
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i'm not you're too white for sure for the black girls you know i'm like a stand-up white guy like
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i'm gonna be with a white guy act white don't act like a wigger like don't i act like a wigger
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I just feel someone that is kind of against women.
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I mean, again, it could be a lot of instances, but, again, I don't feel like you're fully misogynist.
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partial misogyny yeah yeah okay uh all right i will accept that but not really uh okay uh
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hold on i'm getting to it i'm getting to it we're almost there we're at the tail end here
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we're we're close we're close i promise you guys get this girl some more bagel bites
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i can't eat bagel bites that'll make my asthma worse i guess not uh scoot in just a little bit
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the genuist thing sorry what the i don't know i don't know i don't know i have no clue
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homo homo homo genuas homo genuas is that what you're showing a little bit
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i feel like i mean no there's a homophobic no no yeah that's there's a word close to that i don't
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please don't refer to yeah that's that's people as homos homo genuas that's the one for the books
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oh boy it's like 3 a.m man oh really okay what do you got for me what species are we
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oh yeah going around the table it's false homo sapien sapiens uh-huh wait what it's facts
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homo sapien sapiens there's two wait because neanderthal neanderthals are homo sapien
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I'm just saying you learn something every day
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i can't think of another one okay australia new zealand south africa and rhodesia okay uh how many
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i'm gonna direct a lot of questions i feel like you haven't talked much tonight so i feel like
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I'm going to direct some of these questions at you.
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Okay, how many planets are in our solar system?
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Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune.
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you are correct uh how many sides does a triangle have three what country
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yeah you're correct well done what do you call a shape with five sides
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i'm so sorry what was the question it looks like the wu-tang clan
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he said it he said it before the pentagon yeah congratulations a polygon what gas do humans
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BREATHE IN TO SURVIVE? OXYGEN. WHAT GAS DO PLANTS ABSORB FROM THE AIR?
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WAIT, WHAT IS THE QUESTION? WHAT GAS DO PLANTS ABSORB FROM THE AIR?
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POTOSYNTHESIS. INTO OXYGEN. SHONA, TILT YOUR MIC DOWN JUST A
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a teeny bit. I haven't thought about this since middle school. You know what? Sometimes
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sex work is the only option. I have a degree. Huh? I have a degree. In what? Hospitality.
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Oh, you've been very hospitable tonight. Thank you very much. How many months have 28 days?
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yeah yeah uno reverse that was an uno reverse i love it i think we accept that yeah we teach
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to only have 28 they should all have they do all have 28 days okay i'll accept it you're not wrong
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you're not wrong she is a bit of a loophole answer but we will accept it that was good
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uh no idea yes say a continent what race is a japanese person hold on
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hey korea japanese wait korean is crazy you have a one out of seven chance on this
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hey what the fuck don't oh i heard somebody whisper asia what the fuck okay how many dimes
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make a dollar yeah i gotta give the you know you deal with money so uh what's the capital of france
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What country is immediately south of the United States?
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what direction is south have you ever voted yeah oh god wait wait relation to us
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or just like i mean come on it's south of our country stop stop no don't fucking help
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that didn't help uh here use your fingers or use your arm put your arm up stick it up oh wait hold
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on this way never eat soggy waffles we live in the south okay so you're gonna wait okay no no
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i'm not gonna do that um here it helps wait finger uh point your finger to where south
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is well i guess it's down because you say it's soggy so oh my god shona you mother
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i am never given you need to regurgitate those bagel bites you're never getting a bagel bite
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up there we go okay there you go uh let's see here how did
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if today is monday what day is it in three days angelica thursday thursday if you have three
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quarters how much money do you have anna i'm three quarters if you have three inhalers how many
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I'm going to excommunicate you from the Mormon church
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you've read his works um are we your favorite panel of all time it's yes certainly if it takes
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three minutes to boil one egg how many minutes does it take to boil three eggs three minutes
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three minutes three minutes okay say it again anna into the mic into the mic three minutes
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how many um if it takes three minutes to boil one how many yeah does it take to boil three
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are you throwing them all in there together or like separately like are you putting them all in
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the same pot you know what actually wait that's actually 300 iq questions because you could boil
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yeah multiple eggs at the same time yeah that's what we're all thinking but i think
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thinking the framing why would you put one yeah fuck that question that question sucks
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how many how many i gotta be careful how nickels i mean make a dollar
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can i answer it or no oh yeah i should point to somebody how many nickels make a dollar
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money good job what is 50 of 200 100 what is five times five five times five yeah 25 12 divide by
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three four hundreds of the five five five try to figure there try to figure that out uh 15 plus 35
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three uh name one branch of the u.s government into the mic i'm sorry the judicial another one
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executive executive you can never remember the third one deep state deep state is that
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supposed to be a hint i know it it's it one over all your guys heads right make them harder
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that would not be fair he's like i'm in college yeah i didn't go to 10th grade i'm sorry
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maybe i should maybe for the smart people i should have maybe you should ask the straight
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a student government uh okay i know the answer uh what document begins with we the people
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independence the the document is called the independence or just independence
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independence it's you are correct that is how many stars are on the u.s flag
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52 50 50 50 states what is what yeah you are correct it's 52 it is it's 52 you are correct
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what century are we in the 21st final answer yes you are correct what galaxy do we live in
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the milky the milky it sounds like some like sex act or something
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oh man okay sign me up uh how many in one dozen
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hey you got it you got congratulations congrats what year was the u.s founded
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1776 damn it i thought you people watch hamilton man fuck okay i thought that was
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going to be a tricky one some 300 iq questions here for shona what country did the u.s it's
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what did i say wrong i said i'm scared now okay what country did the u.s gain its independence
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from britain we will accept that answer okay no we accept it it's acceptable who was the first
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president of the usa george washington final answer the first one right first yes yeah it's
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not abraham lincoln he's no okay what country is the great wall of china in
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asia what no what country is the great wall of china in china you are correct good job
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How many members, wait, in Congress or the Senate or the House of Representatives?
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Congress includes both the Senate and the House of Representatives.
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Truthfully, I'm a monarchist, so I don't pay attention to your silly democracy.
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I mean, I still vote, but I don't care for the nuances and the milieu and the minutia
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Shoot, I forgot how many were in the House of Representatives.
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How does that contribute to the future of society?
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How do any of these questions contribute to FDR?
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I'm still stuck on what is the third branch of...
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All night long, when a woman didn't know an answer, you've been saying, do you vote?
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No, she asked who was the president before FDR.
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Why is that okay to say, oh, you don't know where Mexico is, so you can't vote,
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george george hw george h oh i was closer than you you didn't know ftr who's the president
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after bill clinton after bill clinton wasn't wasn't it obama are you sure george bush are
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you sure about that this is more recent i'm old george bush yo this is the final to the u.s who
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was who was before uh bush number one before reagan hey i wasn't asking oh my bad i might
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have gotten there because that's like during like red scare before reagan what about before
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reagan is it nixon hey what what year was it nixon no jimmy carter let me blast through the
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rest jimmy carter uh how many days how many seasons are there just like four how many days
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in a year in the 365 hoover set up the great depression that's significant how many letters
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in the alphabet 25 how many days of the week ends with the letter y
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seven final answer are you sure count it just be sure just count use your fingers it helps
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no it's six you are correct it is six only six but day you said day yeah how many days of the
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week end with the letter y how many days are in a week how many days are seven but sunday wait
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oh my god wait oh shit uh what language do the people in idaho speak you're asking me yeah
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a little bit what ocean is california next to potato pacific how many years are in a decade
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10 how many are in a century i don't know oh i don't know well huh how many century how many
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years in the century i don't know guess throughout the number i really can't i don't know century
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yeah i'm i can't i'm like not a good test how many how many how many cents are in a dollar
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What weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?
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okay i think the weight of what you did to those birds
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If you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?
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Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
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You probably make like a million dollars a year on the podcast and you don't have refined questions.
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poland oh my god that's crazy me yeah whoa germany all right uh before mount everest
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was discovered what was the tallest mountain in the world
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i'm gonna guess mauna kea but i'm not sure well mauna kea is the the tallest including under sea
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level but is you would agree that mount everest is above sea level it's got the highest peak yeah
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I don't know but Mount Everest is the tallest mountain above sea level but if you go yeah that's
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what if you go base to peak I'm not I'm not taking I'm not talking I don't know the second or the
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no but what was before it was discovered what was the tallest mountain I said I don't know
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Mount Everest it doesn't need to be discovered to be the tallest mountain it's still the tallest
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the tallest discovered boom lawyered okay what does the hippocampus do in the brain
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the hippocampus that regulates um you being fucking annoying uh so anyways that's actually
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my amygdala that's the amygdala what country did the vietnam war happen in
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can you open those doors more uh all the way how much is a quarter of an hour
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almost there almost there we're so close we're so close
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If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
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1820s 1970s what decade was world war one 1910s 1910s
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they could be wrong they may very well be wrong world war one yes 1800s 1700s there's wars back
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then i thought it was 18 yeah what what did you think 1870s 50 maybe the 40s i think
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What was his famous line about the Soviet Union?
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Yes, I may be drunk, but you will always be ugly
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What was Germany's fastest aircraft that they would use to attack?
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The Germans had an English word for their plan
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I'll stand corrected but I thought the Spitfire was German
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okay uh okay uh how many people and this is going to be how about this how many people died during
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world war ii multiple choice question one million five million or which one's closer one million
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no hold on a hundred thousand one million five million or 20 million which is closer
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for the deaths for world war ii are we talking about war or like which one's closer it wouldn't
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matter. I'm going to say between one and five. One and five. Twenty million. Five. Five million.
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Five. Five million. Twenty. Twenty. Twenty. Twenty. Twenty. Five. Five. Twenty. Oh, me? Angelica?
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Twenty. Oh, okay. All right. I'm going to take a guess. Fifty-five. I was going to say
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50 uh can you name three k-pop stars wait give us the answer k-pop it's closer to 20 now i could
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look you do that from k-pop demon hunters no three k-pop stars name three k-pop stars do you know
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yeah if you know uh hyena psy and jenny name three kardashians
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okay kylie's a jenner oh is it wait question is it we already actually we already talked about
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these hold on um yeah i'll skip those uh okay hold on there's just a few more
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Going around the table, do you think your looks are average
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You guys could scoot in to not least like three seconds
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occasionally no sometimes not particularly tiffany can you give me water one
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okay do you guys uh maybe just by a show of hands do you think it's sexist for men to have
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the expectation that women cook clean do laundry and be submissive is it sexist no
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no no it's a preference okay uh what percentage of men do you think are over six feet oh boy this
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is crazy this might be okay yeah go ahead 15 15 okay five percent three twenty fourteen i'm a
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lower answer to ten i was gonna say 50 you know i guess people are you guys are leaning so far
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away from the mic so you could like preemptively like as the person next to you their sentence
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is trailing off you could just like instead of burning three seconds you could just like already
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be up on the mic just saying but what okay go ahead 20 i don't know 12 uh 15 i'm gonna say 20
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we're talking about america right yeah i was thinking about oh i lost the plot i'm gonna
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guess 12 i don't know what the question is okay what percentage of men make at least one million
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dollars a year oh um i'd say four four percent one percent probably just go one right after
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each other don't make me have to point to you two one one one percent or two percent i say five to
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ten one zero point one one what percentage of men have yachts that's like point yachts point three
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i don't know 0.3 0.5 less than one percent 0.2 three less than one for sure 0.1 yeah like one
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or two it's not a regular thing i want to say 15 0.05 15 percent of men have yachts okay five
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five percent of men less than one percent okay do any of you keep a list of all the men you've been
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with on your phone like a list of all the guys you've hooked up with you know kiss count okay
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nobody uh has anybody show of hands and i'll also answer this have you ever slept with someone the
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same day you met them really yeah i have there we go there we go good sport i've never yeah
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if you say so what do you mean if i say if you say so shona okay if you actually believe her
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Has anyone here ever had a threesome, show fans?
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I mean, how long does it have to be to be a phase?
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Has anyone here ever hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period?
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dick only some sometimes what percent what percent of men suck um these days i think 50 50
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50 no i'm just kidding um hey there's there's levels to this okay there's men that suck a lot
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there's men that suck a little bit there's men that don't suck okay are men the problem
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sometimes in society no in totality necessarily are men trash some men what percent what percent
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i haven't taken fucking chemistry since fucking high school that's ridiculous alkaline metal
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huh no wait clip it and ship it boys yeah it's fucking retarded uh okay near the top
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oh do you think trump is a fascist i wouldn't say a full-on fascist but he has some strange
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tendencies so he's a fascist does anybody think he's a fascist not a fascist
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yes you do you think he's a nazi do you think trump is a nazi he's not a nazi but he but he's
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a fascist i wouldn't say he's a fascist i would say sometimes he says things that raise eyebrows
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and that might slightly align with some aspects of fascism okay i mean but that's trump i mean
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you don't know how trump talks him more so though i don't like what he's doing with iran right now
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what do you think of the usa i guess i'll be the final one i think it's a great country and i'm
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most Americans, so let's just give her some
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She might actually get this, because it's not too
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rare of knowledge. Who brought the Industrial Revolution
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No, he was a British and then he moved to America and then spilled all the secrets for how to build the factories.
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They're like, oh, you didn't know the president before SDR?
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Because now that I called you out about your logic being parted...
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No, next time you need to take that red tie off and come back with a rainbow tie.
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But if immigrants have to learn this American history, like presidents, because they do in
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I'm trying to just think if there was anything else that I'm forgetting.
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You already asked the continent questions earlier.
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On the continent of Australia, name one country.
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Hey, do you know the entire lyrics to Eminem's song Superman?
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Do you know all the lyrics to Blank Space by Taylor Swift?
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I do, and I'm the number one Taylor Swift.
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Do you know all the lyrics to Nicki Minaj?
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Taylor Swift is a cancer and a plague on this society.
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She made up this whole story with her manager
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to pretend she's like some boss bitch that won her contract back over.
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World Record Whatever Podcast with Shona in the studio, with Riley in the studio, with
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baxter we're not gonna go with that your name is um samuel slater i was about to say sam actually
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that's a very important guy actually uh okay guys uh so we got uh i gotta wrap the show but
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wow congrats guys we should we stay another 10 to push it to 11 hours nah i don't think so
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you know what i'll wait for another stream might collapse on live stream do you have
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One day, I think I'll do a 24-hour stream, though.
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w asian girl yeah i woke up at 5 30 years let's go she killed it with the math she did
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you're very good you're very good at math i'm jealous oh thank you yeah oh man congrats guys
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you guys are part of history longest whatever i believe it's the longest whatever podcast
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ever and i was on here there you go bigger and longer you should have seen all the rage
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you guys might look at me like, Brian, why did this go
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i'm so sorry i'm such a bitch i'm bowing so let me bow down so apologetic right now there you go
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i should have made i should have made myself break longer well you said if you're coming
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i would never speak again you said if you're coming from another state make the best of it
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don't come here talking all this high stuff and then come here and sit so i do that and then it's
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like shut up well what do you want from me it's damned if i do damned if i don't you know it's
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I swear to God, if I start coughing tomorrow, I'm going to come by.
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There's a lot of violent, abusive women in this podcast.
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If I hit someone, I didn't say I would hit a woman.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates and supports the show
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i don't know if you're still watching but three champagne pops this guy's a fucking legend thank
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you man really appreciate it we're gonna be live sunday 5 p.m pacific uh i might do something during
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the week potentially but probably not but who knows uh any girls who want to be on the show
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dm out whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara i promise the show will not be
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this long come on it uh oh sevens show up oh sevens this is what happens when an overbook
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I feel like we're forgetting something but at this point
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yeah we're three minutes was that still live we're three minutes should we just
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wait wait chat should we go should we just wait no i'm like should we make it to 11
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If you get the $200 TTS, you have to reveal your actual body count.
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I mean, hey, at this rate, dude, I used to have half of one, actually.
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Hey, I'll give it one minute, but I'll end it at 10.59 if I don't see a TTS.
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You need to take advantage of the parasocial relationship.
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There's a 20 that's not a TTS, but you can show that.
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oh oh shit okay well there it is daddy nevin donated 200 okay oh yeah she's the goat nice
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hey this guy was talking shit about me earlier i forgot what it was you just remember you just
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remember the name say his name again it is uh daddy nevin that's oh shit oh shit he called what
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did he say yeah most people call him nevin but i have my own name what does it say this is for
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We have a minute there on the, you know what would be fucked up?
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Although I'm wondering if our OBS is different than, I probably have to let it go for like
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to 11 and 30 seconds or something like that i mean we could just do like 12 at that point
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please you're so right right i can't do that fucking nate over there is gonna fucking
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just let me talk and we'll make time his katana
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really i was gonna ask what denomination are you not denominational okay i'm figuring it out
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I'll let it go for like 30 seconds just so it doesn't fuck it up on YouTube.
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that in like a british accent i had a childhood friend sub on twitch
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out of nowhere i saw his name pop up and i was like yeah my brother-in-law subbed to twitch
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while the stream was on shout out hey jake i can do like an upper crusty british accent like
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tiffany dear and go get me my loafers tiffany go
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you guys were a wonderful panel I really enjoyed
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but it fucking closed so I had to give you
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guys uh we we made history tonight longest whatever stream ever hey we'll do a 12 we'll
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do a 12 hour one sometime soon all right 07s guys good night and we'll see you next time good night