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00:02:14.080 introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation and also where you're from go ahead

00:02:18.400 hello youtube chat my name is mira and i live stream on twitch okay uh where are you from

00:02:29.600 that information is classified what do you mean classified where you live he means oh i live in

00:02:36.420 sherman oaks california if you guys want to stop by no i mean it could also be like you know where

00:02:40.080 you've no not ethnically just like where you're from what but huh what are the other two like where

00:02:46.300 you currently live or where you originally like if you like you know you could she could have just

00:02:50.320 moved to sherman oaks three months ago so i wouldn't if she lived previously in new york for example

00:02:54.900 for 20 years of her life i wouldn't say she's from sherman oaks i'm from sherman oaks california

00:03:02.180 well i detect an accent so uh are you from somewhere else what kind of accent are you detecting brian

00:03:07.620 what do you mean what do you mean what are you feeling right now a vague european accent okay which

00:03:16.380 part of europe i can you you want to just i don't want to play a guessing game but if you want to just

00:03:22.400 say it go ahead i don't what do you mean haven't you disclosed this already online no you've never

00:03:31.500 disclosed your european origin no everyone's guessing everybody's guessing come on like you've

00:03:38.100 obviously disclosed it's gonna be a big reveal just like my age so you are gonna reveal it at some

00:03:44.060 point yes during the show no wait what oh my god this girl's annoying okay um what about you hi i'm

00:03:53.680 haley herms i'm 28 um i'm a plus size model content creator and entrepreneur and i'm from l.a

00:04:01.840 okay uh thank you for disclosing your age and your look uh where you're from appreciate it

00:04:07.760 what about you my name is farha kalidi i'm 24 i live in miami and i'm a content creator

00:04:13.640 all right welcome back what about you my name is yamani i'm 27 i live in l.a i do bottle service i make

00:04:21.360 clothes yeah okay do you do any content creation at all or i do i do content creation as well what

00:04:30.020 kind i have an only fans okay got it what about you my name is linea i'm 25 years old and i do only

00:04:37.540 fans all right welcome welcome and uh where are you from oh delaware delaware okay there you have

00:04:45.400 folks she's from delaware what uh what about you my name is macy i am 27 can you tell me down just a

00:04:53.560 time yeah go ahead 27 i'm 27 and i am from mobile alabama and what do you do for work i'm an insurance

00:05:00.980 adjuster not as glamorous as all these other girls but i do pay the bills the same way gotcha okay and

00:05:09.640 andrew what about you my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible fastest growing debate

00:05:14.680 channel anywhere online um for work i'm a mechanical engineer and uh content creator

00:05:22.000 he's a content creator for motorcycle exhausts folks um

00:05:28.600 was was there more no no that was i was gonna say okay only the only one of these girls that came

00:05:36.640 in here correct oh it was the one sitting next to me because she brought cookies oh yeah she did

00:05:41.680 thank you for bringing cookies and they were like awesome looking cookies yeah i was super cool i was

00:05:46.200 pretty impressed with that thank you very much the rest of you should all feel shame you should deep

00:05:50.100 shame for having not far i'm looking at you i was expecting some sort of one of the kaliti cookies

00:05:56.860 and you didn't bring them yeah i'm i'm very disappointed yeah deeply we can go get them after

00:06:02.940 i think most shops are closed unfortunately okay okay all right uh so we're gonna go around the

00:06:08.740 table once more so what is your current relationship status are you single talking stage situationship

00:06:14.540 friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem if you're single how long have you

00:06:19.640 been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead that's a lot of questions

00:06:25.000 can we do one at a time sure so okay current relationship status i am currently single okay

00:06:33.700 how long have you been single i have been single for four years okay longest relationship eight years

00:06:42.620 eight years okay oh whoops i would say i'm currently in my fuck boy stage because most of my life i was

00:06:50.900 in relationships you're currently in your fuck boy stage is it sexist should i say fuck girl

00:06:57.280 uh well you know that's interesting i've thought of that before and me personally i don't have an

00:07:05.080 issue with it but there is a cohort of women that seems to object to the term slut and it would occur

00:07:10.560 to me that fuck boy is the counterpart to the word slut or so i'd prefer if you said bang maid

00:07:16.720 bang bang like bang maid is better i feel like that doesn't denote what a fuck boy is though

00:07:23.520 a bang maid is have the same like yeah but you can still be a fuck boy and not be fucking

00:07:29.700 true so and i feel like i guess you could be a slut and not be slutting that's that is true i also feel

00:07:37.180 like slut has a lot of negative connotation as opposed to fuck boy fuck boy is not a positive

00:07:41.900 women typically use that in a derogatory sense how does derogatory a slut yeah i feel like perhaps

00:07:48.020 not to the same degree but i don't think it's like if a girl calls a guy a fuck boy i don't think

00:07:52.460 there's any like oh this is an upstanding it's not it's not to be nice but how do men feel about

00:07:58.420 that term isn't that something where you derive pride from because you sleep with a lot of women

00:08:02.860 if you're proud of sleeping with a lot of women i'm just asking yeah you mean from a man's point of

00:08:09.060 yeah so i mean from a what as you may know all men are different and some have different virtues

00:08:14.360 than other men so not all men fuck boy is more of like an offensive term well i would say that

00:08:20.400 it's not used in a way towards men in order to be nice it doesn't seem like a nice thing for i don't

00:08:26.080 think it's mean i think they're saying like this guy isn't seeking a relationship but i think a

00:08:29.260 girl is still willing to date a fuck boy if he converts but i don't think a guy is going to date a

00:08:32.820 slut if he deems her a slut oh they do it frequently all the time i feel like guys love it's

00:08:38.760 ill-advised it's ill-advised i don't think those are the guys who are calling girls sluts is my

00:08:43.060 point wait which which ones are not calling women the ones who are willing to date the quote

00:08:47.340 unquote sluts i don't think they might yeah i think they do they might you think they're just

00:08:52.380 like this girl such a oh yeah come on they go like they're like i banged this slut last night

00:08:56.420 come on they do banged i said dating i think a girl would date a fuck boy if he got his shit

00:09:00.680 together and became like a reformed i've heard the term they're saying fuck boy as in like he

00:09:05.000 doesn't want a relationship but guys don't want relationships with the sluts is my point

00:09:08.800 but girls would now they get in relationships with them quite frequently they'll get in the

00:09:11.980 relationships and it's just like they know it's not going anywhere serious i men they act like they

00:09:20.180 don't but they love whores like they wipe up strippers they wipe up like they wipe up girls who

00:09:27.580 do porn i know a lot of girls who do content creation that are all in like super happy relationships

00:09:32.500 i don't know i think it's like you don't want to tell your friends that your girl's a slut but

00:09:38.660 deep down like everyone likes hoes not everyone but

00:09:43.780 or you get like a cool you get like a fun wife that or like a chill wife that doesn't really

00:09:51.320 do much but you got a little i think slut on the side i think the opposite is true and that most

00:09:56.320 most men probably don't want to have a chick who's been with a lot of men i said they like sluts

00:10:03.200 if they don't want to date them whatever but guys definitely they be wiping them up i see it

00:10:08.980 and i know slutty girls that like don't do sex stuff but like you would look at them and be like

00:10:15.580 she's slutty yeah look i think a lot of guys would cuff an instagram model even though they would

00:10:20.500 objectively say like she's a bit slutty in high school one of my friends was like deemed like the

00:10:25.400 biggest slut was bullied so bad she had to drop out of high school and meanwhile she was like the

00:10:30.620 biggest virgin of everyone in the grade so no it was interesting okay so jeez i don't know what's

00:10:38.100 going on out there they're probably coming here yeah so here's the delineation if a chick if a chick

00:10:47.340 has sex with a lot of men she's a slut right but if she just dresses provocatively we have a name for

00:10:52.940 them too we call them skanks so there's a distinction right i've never heard someone

00:10:56.880 under 30 say skank as well like yeah well i mean the the younger generation needs to learn the word

00:11:02.220 it needs to come back fair yeah love it kind of 80s uh well so okay going back to you uh you can

00:11:09.700 leave it you can leave it a little closed nick it's gonna get chilly um just nick come on um

00:11:16.820 so you've been single for four years longest relationship was eight years uh when did your

00:11:23.960 eight year like how old were you when you had this eight year relationship are you trying to figure out

00:11:28.420 my age brian you don't need to be obtuse like come on people here okay if i were to google your name

00:11:35.580 would there be disclosures about your age you can try mira i don't even know your last name mira age

00:11:42.880 i don't know mira twitch age 1990

00:11:46.180 famousbirthdays.com that's a good source that's reliable i mean no i don't it might not be

00:11:55.240 accurate but um i was 16 when i first started that relationship that was my first year in college

00:12:00.980 we're just going to say that you're 33 how's that sound whatever works for you okay i'm writing down

00:12:06.120 33 if you'd like to correct to the record feel free um okay so you said you were 16 when you started

00:12:12.060 that so you from 16 to 20 jesus i can't do math right now 16 to what 23 24 about would you say

00:12:22.460 sorry that was a cool animation um yeah somewhere around there okay um okay fine you want to be

00:12:31.600 obtuse about the whole age thing um you said you're in you're currently in your fuck boy phase

00:12:37.100 what does what does that look like what do you mean when you say that i think there's so much in

00:12:44.400 the world that i have not experienced yet because i was quite closed-minded that's how i was raised in

00:12:51.520 quite conservative ways at least like sexually that now i'm just doing whatever feels right even

00:12:58.860 though there's still a little bit of a you know stigma because i was raised in that conservative way

00:13:03.260 what feels right i'm trying to listen more to my body and like what feels good what is interesting

00:13:10.320 what's fun and just go along with that which is what like whatever i feel in the moment you said

00:13:18.360 whatever feels right in your body yes what what does that what does that mean you want me to describe

00:13:25.460 like how a woman gets aroused right no that's not what i'm asking but like how does that practically

00:13:31.660 manifest itself when it comes to dating are you dating multiple people are you seeing multiple

00:13:36.940 people or what what are we talking about here because you said fuck boy so i think i was a little

00:13:42.320 too harsh with that word but basically i am meeting as many people as i can right now and trying to get

00:13:49.420 to know them to see if there's connection whether it's physical mental any type of attraction like

00:13:55.620 opportunity for growth because i notice a lot of times people will get attracted if you have

00:14:01.460 something they're lacking or they have something you're lacking and you kind of like fill in those

00:14:05.600 holes you know and you're just like growing together to a better self so that's what's very stimulating to

00:14:11.680 me okay so you complete each other sort of like a puzzle piece like if for example a guy is broke

00:14:20.720 since you're a very successful content creator you would be prepared to you know provide financially

00:14:27.720 because he's lacking in that department i'm a little part of donated 100 can you ask andrew if

00:14:34.180 he's been in the military before last time he made some comments about wms that i thought were pretty

00:14:40.580 uncool if he's never served and if he says air force or cg that's a no that did not mean to trigger

00:14:48.860 that the lurch should be higher but um i'll fix it go ahead andrew if you want to yeah so everything

00:14:54.140 i said about wms is correct i was in the army for a short amount of time uh not for very long i had a

00:15:00.600 medical discharge gotcha uh just a point sorry guys um there was an error there just to be clear tts

00:15:08.160 trigger is uh 200 and up but that was uh that was our fault just want to make make it clear to

00:15:13.940 everybody uh go ahead those are high prices go ahead you seem to seem upset no i'm just surprised

00:15:21.900 because in twitch usually it's like three or five dollars it's like whoa youtube is stepping it up

00:15:26.080 is it normal for youtube maybe i should move to youtube so question was would i provide for a male

00:15:35.580 if he was not doing as well as me financially did i get the question right sure i think that's what

00:15:43.540 i have been doing so far and i would say i'm tired of that i would prefer somebody who's on my level or

00:15:49.960 higher just for you know variety purposes gotcha okay and you so okay you said you were an eight

00:15:55.300 year relationship uh when did that end how long ago did that eight year relationship end

00:16:01.020 i don't remember i think you're bad in math okay uh you've been single for four years so for that

00:16:08.600 four-year period have you been in the fuck boy stage as you i was trying yeah it's still a little

00:16:13.660 hard like imagine you being raised traditionally you still have like so many limits in your mind

00:16:19.380 limits or beneficial values and mindsets uh artificial what do you mean by that well you said

00:16:28.440 you you said you were raised traditionally and you said that that's a that's limiting yes but i'm

00:16:33.820 asking could it perhaps be a beneficial instead of a limiting thing i don't know i'm not too sure

00:16:41.900 one thing i figure out is that life is really short and we should enjoy it translation sleep with a bunch

00:16:51.060 of men i think if i were to tell you my number you will not believe it like it's it doesn't come to

00:16:58.220 the number it comes down to how much you enjoy what you do because sometimes i notice women sleep with

00:17:04.220 men they're not even enjoying it that's true why why do that i wonder the same thing you don't know

00:17:10.560 until you find out right actually that's a good point too without trying how would you know

00:17:14.960 i mean the context would matter in that situation like if it's a one-night stand you're both at the

00:17:21.980 bar drunk i would say like most men in that context would probably not be particularly preoccupied with

00:17:28.080 your uh you reaching climax or orgasm you say that about anything like if you don't try it how do you

00:17:34.980 know like fentanyl i don't do fentanyl well why would you know you don't like it if you haven't tried it

00:17:39.600 right that doesn't that seem like slightly insane to say okay i think it comes down to context and like

00:17:43.960 what's leading to it i think there's also pressure as to why sometimes women engage in sex because

00:17:51.740 there's so many reasons as to what kind of why they should well there's materialistic side there's a

00:17:58.420 side where you feel like it will make a guy feel bad like at times i would question myself like should

00:18:05.260 i do it just as a pity sex because they really really want it and i feel bad for them but then i it's

00:18:12.520 really that's not a good reason to do that you got to listen to your body pity sex is ill-advised

00:18:20.360 um uh also i feel like one night stands are not as enjoyable generally speaking because without

00:18:29.080 connection yeah of course of course that's something i found out on my like by myself too

00:18:34.380 i was just trying this is like a good example when you try just to see what it's like that is a

00:18:41.480 terrible advice why yeah i probably wouldn't do well you know why sleeping with someone to see if you

00:18:47.620 like it yeah why is that terrible advice i don't think that i need to how has she been damaged by

00:18:54.540 trying that are you mentally damaged or physically damaged from testing it out i think i just learned

00:18:58.640 the lessons like i'm not going to do that again it was one of that's damage her saying i'm not

00:19:04.280 going to do that again well i think that random promiscuous sex with people just to try it out

00:19:08.820 seems like it could lead to a lot of damage yeah we'll do that again how frequently just to try it

00:19:12.900 out you know one time is too many one night stand no one's done before like you have to try it once

00:19:18.860 to know that but i mean she seems fine you know you have i'm not saying she like you don't like it

00:19:22.860 but maybe she'd die from it she would have been chronically curious otherwise now she knows no

00:19:27.000 well what should she look like that's not like if there was a scar if there was a mental scar what

00:19:30.620 should she look like should she come in and go boop boop i mean how should she look she'd be jaded

00:19:34.460 she could be a fem cell she could swear off men she could maybe not give us any of the details that

00:19:38.820 we've been asking for and then he has to pry each and every individual one out she can kind of be a

00:19:43.300 smart ass and totally vague maybe all those are mental scars due to the fact that she's been

00:19:47.200 hyper promiscuous or maybe not we don't know but she does seem to be

00:19:51.240 i didn't ask for ethnicity i didn't ask for ethnicity you did i she said sherman oaks and

00:19:55.840 you said i'm detecting an accent that's not asking that could be nationality you said maybe she lived

00:20:01.960 somewhere prior to sherman oaks maybe she was like in new york for 20 years how'd she get a

00:20:05.020 european accent from living okay why is that i was using new york as an example i'm not saying that

00:20:13.620 she's i detected a new york accent you just seem more upset about that it's kind of irrelevant

00:20:18.800 that conversation you brought it up i was just saying all right so okay um you said right now

00:20:25.920 you're just trying things out so uh and you said you're you said you said you're trying to meet as

00:20:33.160 many people as possible correct so like what does that look like five dates a week honestly sometimes

00:20:41.820 i go on two or three a day two or three day okay i wish we still had speed dating going on i think

00:20:48.940 that would be interesting you know when you sit like in front of the other person for like five

00:20:53.080 minutes if you're not really enjoying it then you switch to the next seat and there's another person

00:20:58.520 oh like speed dating yes like an event they still have those i reckon where can you give me a link to

00:21:06.900 that what's that i'm actually i would be interested to do that you'd be interested to

00:21:11.500 do speed dating yes why is that not read there's a hundred dollar donation

00:21:16.620 we we read it at intervals throughout the show we don't read it immediately okay don't worry okay we

00:21:24.420 got you know what maybe we'll hire you as a producer you can come on as a consultant you can

00:21:29.380 give us some you know recommendations but um okay so uh for example how many in the past two weeks

00:21:36.120 how many dates have you been on past two weeks yeah probably 20 20 dates okay around that well

00:21:46.780 date means with different people or the same person uh can we define a date how about with

00:21:53.500 different people yeah and and to clarify because i feel like for example if you were to just have a

00:22:01.260 guy over to your house or a guy you went to a guy's house he went to yours uh did i just is that

00:22:08.060 redundant did i just say the same thing am i having a stroke okay let's just say you spent time with

00:22:14.140 somebody with and you had a romantic interest in them we'll count that as a date because some people

00:22:20.580 only consider a date if we went out to a public venue such as we went to get dinner i'm gonna be

00:22:28.580 honest i didn't feel any romantic interest towards any of them because it's hard for me to feel that

00:22:34.380 before meeting them in real life okay so just just to clarify you can tell us what you think a date is

00:22:39.140 what's a date you might not have had romantic interest but the context with which you were meeting

00:22:46.260 it wasn't like a business meeting it wasn't just friends hanging out it was a guy maybe he was interested

00:22:52.840 you asking you out and you were going to meet him to see if there was a potential whatever yes i think

00:23:00.560 from their side most of it is exactly as you're describing from my side it's a 50 50 it could be

00:23:06.540 something that results in romance and sex it could be something that goes just into friendship and

00:23:12.920 networking i don't know until i meet the person okay so how frequently are you going on these dates

00:23:21.260 we'll just call them dates every day not today because i made it to the show sure yeah you came

00:23:25.520 to this show um so but 20 dates in the past two weeks wait what what are you are you i get the

00:23:32.080 distinct feeling that you're totally full of shit about basically everything that you're saying you

00:23:36.780 you go on dates every single day yes yes and and what's what's the context behind that you say like

00:23:43.400 i have to meet a person and then i go on a date with the person that i meet right so how are you

00:23:47.760 setting up these blind dates probably dating apps right a lot of people message me on instagram okay

00:23:53.880 so i just go off that i look at their profile i see if there's anything interesting in terms of their

00:23:59.440 looks personality anything i can connect with the person and then i just pick one of those because

00:24:06.300 they usually want to meet so in the in the uh current dating climate andrew with like dating apps

00:24:12.520 social media it's super easy granted she's an attractive woman and i i mean i would argue even

00:24:17.820 a average looking woman if she was so inclined could have a date every single day of the week

00:24:24.200 if she wanted you're going on dates every day yes would you like to go on a date with me nope

00:24:28.340 but you you do go on dates every single day really yes what makes you not believe that i don't know

00:24:34.620 it seems because so i'm i'm really trained very well in spotting when people are full of shit and

00:24:40.840 liars because no not from the military but from years of doing very high level skilled debates

00:24:46.680 right okay because you're so evasive at almost every point about what you're being asked i feel

00:24:52.880 like almost nothing that you're telling us is accurate or true and it's i don't know what the

00:24:57.400 the kind of gig is yet but we'll see as we go through i think you generalize them too much yeah we'll see

00:25:03.160 no i've been with her the past week she goes on a lot of dates what's the point of me lying i think

00:25:08.360 it makes me look if any anything bad i was judged what's the point of being evasive well uh about

00:25:14.200 my age because i plan to have like a big release about it later on and obviously benefit from it

00:25:20.920 i've never heard a content creator okay age reveal like face reveals i've heard about but like accent

00:25:27.200 reveal party it's gonna be new it's gonna be big yeah accent reveal party age reveal party like

00:25:32.420 i don't know modest hikima donated two hundred dollars brixton i see you have reverted to the

00:25:38.900 mentally ill again speed dating is still going on you just aren't a part of it brain dead 304

00:25:45.420 andrew welcome back keep representing why are you still in u.s i think this is directed towards you

00:25:52.300 myra oh okay excuse me mira i'll probably fuck it up again so feel free to correct me

00:25:58.380 it's okay brian terrible memory go ahead go ahead do you want to answer why are you still in the u.s

00:26:02.840 oh i thought he was asking andrew why he's still in the u.s um why am i still in u.s well that's

00:26:11.200 because it's getting cold and being in europe right now is not best time

00:26:17.420 okay very simple all right so okay you're going um 20 dates a week or sorry sorry you've in the past

00:26:26.300 two weeks you've gone on 20 dates sometimes you're going on what's the most amount of dates you've

00:26:31.160 gone on in one day probably three although i do not like the word day because like i said for me it

00:26:38.060 could be anything like friendship coming out of it some type of business opportunity i feel like the

00:26:43.460 date always means that it has to be something romantic or sexual coming out of it no not

00:26:47.860 necessarily hanging out right like dating is for i feel like dating is for romance so if you're not

00:26:54.840 dating to connect romantically then you're just hanging out it feels like kind of avoiding the

00:26:58.840 spirit of the question right so it's not he's not asking for like business engagements and things

00:27:02.660 like that but rather brian oh well what it's not clear to me if these are necessarily

00:27:10.040 going into them business meetings or like meeting with friends what she is saying is that she's

00:27:17.960 meeting men who they've shown a romantic interest in her but i feel like it's she's saying that she

00:27:27.460 will not consider it a date if it doesn't if she doesn't have a mutual interest in them but that

00:27:34.900 that is not what would constitute a date because you can go on a date as a woman and by the end of

00:27:41.160 the date determine you have no romantic interest in the person that doesn't mean on the date you

00:27:45.500 still went on the date that's why it doesn't make any sense so i yeah so okay we don't really need to

00:27:50.380 address the we'll just assume that these are dates that you're going on um but okay so in the past

00:27:57.600 in 2023 how many dates have you been on do you think well this is my recent fuckboy stage oh it's

00:28:06.480 recent okay i started like maybe two months ago two months ago okay before then i was just streaming

00:28:12.120 at home i see okay so for let's dig into the fuckboy two month thing what's going on how or excuse me

00:28:21.480 let me let me be more specific how many dates have you gone on in the past two months

00:28:26.400 probably about a hundred okay a hundred any prospects or not so much me me i have to admit

00:28:41.420 sorry it's your helmet collection it just had it's very fascinating okay um so i have to admit that

00:28:48.760 alay scenery is not really my cuppa uh it's it's not really my cup of tea your what's not your cup

00:28:58.640 of tea um what i noticed in terms of man in la it's not quite something i'm interested in so far

00:29:08.720 just generally speaking so they're either really if i had to categorize it i feel like they're either

00:29:15.140 really successful man that are not very attractive physically or the ones that are not

00:29:23.260 successful they're just trying to make it they're fairly attractive i suppose physically but

00:29:29.880 there's just not enough there they're just kind of trying trying too hard sometimes i try to appear

00:29:36.140 somebody they're not which is understandable they're just trying to make it wait what is not

00:29:39.980 what is not your cup of tea um i just missed i didn't hear men in la okay i see okay so past two

00:29:49.400 months fuck boy phase 100 100 dates has there ever been of the 100 these are all like first dates to

00:29:56.880 be clear correct pretty much like 100 dates with 100 men different different men yes i feel like i'm in

00:30:04.380 therapy session have you been on any second dates at all or no i have okay yes okay um any have any of

00:30:12.400 these in the past two months turned into like a situationship or a talking stage or can you define

00:30:17.300 situationship well i mean it i don't think it's necessary but english is my second language mine too

00:30:23.940 oh yours is yeah i'll disclose i was born in france so french french language is your first language

00:30:30.720 yes french is my first language yeah i speak it about as well as a kangaroo though so um so

00:30:36.820 let's see um did any of these

00:30:40.880 go past a second or third date they have but like i said because of how i was raised i'm still

00:30:49.560 taking it slow taking it slow it's like i don't want to rush anything i don't want to do any first

00:30:56.060 like encounter or like pity sex anymore i just want to do anymore so you have done it i've done

00:31:02.940 pity sex i've done that once lucky guy good for him why do men do that do what

00:31:11.720 were were you like guilted that's that's kind of weird on the guy's part not gonna lie

00:31:17.000 like just take the l i just i just feel bad for them you know they try they're like little puppies

00:31:22.280 and then just look at you like just like they're trying and they're and they're very kind to you

00:31:27.440 and attentive and you're like fine that's that's like the alternative of female manipulation where

00:31:35.720 they do the exact same type of thing say like so you just like a fuck boy it kind of i don't know

00:31:42.120 that sounds like a good guy to me but maybe she just doesn't like him well some guys well i feel

00:31:49.960 like some girls just naturally like you know like the bad boy like thing going on you know what i

00:31:55.200 mean is that the vibe that you get from me no well no just off of what you just said i don't know it's

00:32:02.540 like it just it doesn't seem like that like a you know a more shy guy like it seems like you like a

00:32:07.580 guy who's like take charge and like more like you know i don't know actually a good point but then

00:32:13.900 again you still need to like him imagine a guy takes too much charge as you said that and you're not

00:32:19.160 really into him this is where well of course you need to be interested and attracted to the guy

00:32:25.300 um but yeah when it comes to the pity sex thing really quick uh it's not clear to me if the most

00:32:31.820 attractive thing a woman can say before sex is i guess we can fuck like no that's not that's not a

00:32:40.060 turn on for me anyways but whatever well i think i also was trying to sort of get over

00:32:47.400 the last sympathy fuck person that i was somewhat seeing before those two months started even though

00:32:55.220 it wasn't officially a relationship but i was um seeing i see him for a little while okay all right

00:33:01.860 well uh maybe we can come back to some of that stuff but uh out of curiosity if you're open with

00:33:08.100 sharing um of the hundred first dates that you went on how many of them did you get intimate with

00:33:13.540 did you are we talking about sex yes p in the v sexual intercourse p in the v p in the v sexual

00:33:21.760 intercourse um p in what v p in what v i'm not familiar with the p word on here p in the v p in in the v

00:33:33.240 what's the v v vagina why would you pee in a vagina no

00:33:39.740 some girls are into that no penis penis in p in the v okay so out of all of those it was just one

00:33:51.020 and it was the pity sex and i will never do that it was the pity sex the one guy and even then you

00:33:56.500 didn't really okay all right um i mean i kind of got to put some respect on that because like

00:34:04.400 that's a good ratio 100 guys you turn all 100 down except for one and even the one it was kind of like

00:34:10.900 but that's not for me like i don't pride myself on having little sex i would prefer to have more but

00:34:16.660 i feel like it's hard for me to be attracted to men these days physically attracted or

00:34:21.380 in other ways i think you have to be attracted on both levels like physical is not enough it has

00:34:26.740 to be mental and physical mental so you're a sapio sexual maybe i like how that sounds okay i also

00:34:33.980 believe that liberalism is killing testosterone in men these days i would prefer that the man

00:34:40.800 is more assertive not like caveman yeah the way not like he's gonna put me over his shoulder and

00:34:47.420 take me home but she that is what she wants though that is what you but at the same time

00:34:52.460 you want to make sure that the woman is attracted to you because have you ever had a wall slam

00:34:56.380 could you define that for me brian a wall slam somebody slammed me across the no like let's say

00:35:01.600 you're making out with the guy and he grabs you by your hair and like he's not like abusing you but

00:35:06.960 like push it like okay you're talking about rough sex no no not even like if you're just making

00:35:12.080 i mean it could be within sex but like a wall slam i feel like they is that what you're is that

00:35:19.320 kind of something okay yeah is that what you're talking about something like that but i always

00:35:23.000 felt like it was fake i always felt like i'm still the dominant one and i don't want to tell us how you

00:35:28.600 don't men in the bedroom i don't you don't but you said you're the dominant one i feel like i'm still

00:35:34.680 like the leader not necessarily sexually but like yes mentally like psychologically like i know what's

00:35:41.980 gonna happen i know where this is gonna go i basically have i don't want to say an upper hand

00:35:48.500 it almost feels like it's a game but yeah i don't feel like a man has more than me overall

00:35:56.440 doesn't make sense i mean you're you're an attractive woman you're successful i wonder if perhaps that

00:36:04.240 plays a part of it but uh i i would say generally speaking though women typically do have the upper

00:36:13.040 hand in courtship because the men are pursuing you so that's a position of power i would say

00:36:18.780 but i still feel like on many levels you as a woman should feel like you can learn from a man

00:36:26.120 otherwise where's the attraction if you feel like you're stronger smarter better looking like anything

00:36:33.760 in terms of qualities that generally society values that you have more combined than the men

00:36:39.500 what is the point of being with the men otherwise i'm gonna eat them for breakfast

00:36:44.220 okay have you never move to the next one here i i want to just get around the table on everybody but

00:36:53.560 maybe we can come back to some of that um so uh wait oh nick is the audio muted

00:37:00.460 oh hold on sorry some tt or some messages uh thank you jbs just a reminder guys um hundred and up to

00:37:08.780 read and 200 and up okay wait hold on um so your your relationship status oh sorry hold on just a

00:37:18.240 seven deadly simps donated two hundred dollars these women learned long ago that the amount of time

00:37:24.400 people can tolerate them is directly proportional to the amount of cleavage visible

00:37:28.700 wow also seven hundred and seventy seven decillion seven hundred and seventy seven no million seven

00:37:35.260 hundred and seventy seven octillion seven hundred and seventy seven septillion seven hundred and seventy

00:37:41.620 seven sextillion seven hundred and seventy seven quintillion seven hundred and seventy seven quadrillion

00:37:48.000 Okay.

00:37:49.000 So your current relationship status.

00:37:54.060 I'm currently single.

00:37:55.620 How long have you been single?

00:37:57.940 About two-ish years.

00:38:01.180 Two years?

00:38:01.800 Longest relationship?

00:38:02.820 About six years.

00:38:03.780 Six years, okay.

00:38:05.360 And from what age to what age was the relationship?

00:38:10.160 Like 20 to like 26.

00:38:13.620 Okay.

00:38:14.100 So the relationship that ended two years ago was your longest relationship at six years.

00:38:19.040 Yes.

00:38:19.480 Gotcha.

00:38:20.400 And are you currently, I mean, you're single, but.

00:38:24.240 I'm dating.

00:38:24.880 There's a guy in the picture, a couple guys in the picture.

00:38:27.880 What's situationships?

00:38:30.340 Right.

00:38:30.800 No situationships.

00:38:32.540 Okay.

00:38:34.400 I kind of, I don't have the attention span and the time to kind of juggle a whole bunch of guys.

00:38:41.520 I don't essentially think like everyone needs to have a roster.

00:38:45.940 So I'm kind of more like date them one at a time type of girl situation.

00:38:50.740 So there's like a guy or two.

00:38:53.040 I'm like kind of interested in feeling out, but I wouldn't say it's like a full-blown situationship at the moment.

00:39:00.180 Okay.

00:39:00.700 Got it.

00:39:01.360 Yeah.

00:39:01.800 All right.

00:39:02.360 And similar to Mira, did I get it right this time?

00:39:07.820 Have you ever had a fuckboy phase?

00:39:12.400 Yeah.

00:39:13.320 Like once.

00:39:14.860 Once.

00:39:15.200 Once in New York.

00:39:16.380 In New York.

00:39:17.160 Yeah.

00:39:17.460 For a couple months.

00:39:18.420 Couple months.

00:39:19.120 Gotcha.

00:39:19.520 Were you living there or are you from there?

00:39:21.660 I'm bi-coastal, so I have a place in LA and New York for modeling.

00:39:24.700 Oh, really?

00:39:25.140 Okay.

00:39:25.400 Cool.

00:39:25.660 Cool.

00:39:26.060 Got it.

00:39:26.920 Okay.

00:39:27.200 And what did the fuckboy phase look like for you?

00:39:31.000 Oh, well, I'll paint a picture.

00:39:33.560 Sure.

00:39:34.140 Cardi B was just like getting at the top of the charts, you know?

00:39:38.380 So that was.

00:39:39.700 No, this was.

00:39:40.860 Earlier than Watt.

00:39:41.660 Bodak yellow.

00:39:42.900 Yeah.

00:39:43.620 Bodak yellow.

00:39:44.620 Okay.

00:39:44.840 So this was like the time of like, ooh, pussy out.

00:39:47.660 Oh, can I say that?

00:39:48.500 Sorry.

00:39:48.620 That's fine.

00:39:49.060 It's fine.

00:39:49.640 So it felt like kind of empowering.

00:39:53.100 But.

00:39:53.240 Sure.

00:39:53.420 Essentially, I didn't really do it in the motive to like go out and be like, I'm going

00:39:58.440 to conquest men.

00:40:00.740 I just kind of wanted to see if like I could be that type of girl or if that was like, you

00:40:07.180 know, like a city girl.

00:40:08.520 And I was like, I'm not a city girl.

00:40:10.680 Like tried it, but like it really wasn't for me.

00:40:13.820 I'm a lover girl.

00:40:14.880 So.

00:40:15.000 Okay.

00:40:15.440 Made it hard.

00:40:16.440 Got it.

00:40:17.100 Farrah, what about you?

00:40:18.500 I'm single.

00:40:19.300 I've been single for about a year and a half and my longest relationship was about four

00:40:23.400 years.

00:40:24.400 Four years.

00:40:25.060 Gotcha.

00:40:25.640 And if I recall from the previous times you've been on the show, despite having had some of

00:40:30.920 these relationships, you are, you've not been intimate with somebody, biblically speaking

00:40:37.120 in that way.

00:40:38.360 I'm a virgin.

00:40:39.080 Correct.

00:40:39.560 Okay.

00:40:39.960 Gotcha.

00:40:41.060 Wow.

00:40:41.420 Just context for the audience and the rest of the panel.

00:40:44.360 Look at how surprised you are.

00:40:45.940 She's just so hot.

00:40:47.220 They exist.

00:40:47.680 Yeah.

00:40:48.080 No, that's cool.

00:40:50.000 What about you?

00:40:52.520 I, my last relationship was.

00:40:58.440 A current relationship status.

00:41:00.520 Oh, I'm single.

00:41:01.380 I'm single.

00:41:01.800 Gotcha.

00:41:02.020 How long have you been single for?

00:41:03.760 For like a year and a half now.

00:41:09.000 Okay.

00:41:09.300 A year and a half.

00:41:10.040 Got it.

00:41:10.600 Yeah.

00:41:10.840 Longest relationship?

00:41:13.980 Like three years.

00:41:15.120 Three years.

00:41:15.620 Okay.

00:41:16.240 Got it.

00:41:16.840 And so you've been single for 1.5 years, but you know, uh, is there a guy in the picture?

00:41:22.960 No.

00:41:23.560 No.

00:41:24.020 Come on.

00:41:25.060 No.

00:41:25.340 There's not a guy you're texting or.

00:41:28.120 No.

00:41:28.340 Are you on any dating apps?

00:41:29.680 No.

00:41:30.260 Nothing?

00:41:30.820 No.

00:41:31.200 The guys don't slide in to the DMs at all?

00:41:34.480 Yeah.

00:41:35.160 Um.

00:41:35.660 Oh, they slide in.

00:41:37.060 Oh, they slide in.

00:41:37.640 Yeah, they do.

00:41:37.960 They do.

00:41:38.480 But I'm usually, I feel like I'm pretty uninterested in a lot of guys.

00:41:42.740 Sure.

00:41:45.180 Uh, they.

00:41:46.100 At one point, we thought she was asexual.

00:41:48.700 And I still am.

00:41:50.760 Stop the cow.

00:41:52.920 Wait, what?

00:41:55.020 It's a real thing.

00:41:56.000 I've known her for 10.

00:41:57.240 10 years.

00:41:57.600 10 years.

00:41:58.440 Yeah.

00:41:59.000 Literally, I thought I was lesbian.

00:42:01.840 I thought I was asexual.

00:42:02.640 We literally were like, maybe you're a lesbian.

00:42:04.000 Are you asexual?

00:42:04.820 I go through periods of celibacy for like, I've been celibate for like, two years before.

00:42:09.160 Modest Hikima donated $200.

00:42:12.440 Mirror based AF.

00:42:14.420 Single body by choice.

00:42:16.160 Obviously, take that power girl and come to Utah.

00:42:19.900 You will be widely welcome.

00:42:21.820 You can eat me for breakfast any day.

00:42:24.400 Brixen, why are you up TTS?

00:42:26.740 You mad at me?

00:42:28.020 No, just I want to make sure we have a little smoother show.

00:42:30.760 I have a lot of notes and I just want to make sure we get through it and not keep everyone too late.

00:42:35.220 So, yeah, dude, thank you, Jikama.

00:42:37.860 Appreciate it.

00:42:38.740 Do you want me to actually pronounce your name right?

00:42:40.340 Because I think I'll eventually get it.

00:42:41.660 Thank you, man.

00:42:42.020 Appreciate it.

00:42:43.520 So, you think you're potentially asexual?

00:42:48.520 It's definitely, I mean, it's possible.

00:42:51.980 Like, I don't.

00:42:52.900 Are you asexual or you just don't find yourself physically or sexually attracted to like a vast swath of men?

00:42:59.780 Yeah.

00:43:00.180 Because, like, in your three-year relationship, I mean, was it a dead bedroom situation-ship?

00:43:05.920 No.

00:43:06.040 Or situation, excuse me.

00:43:06.860 No, but.

00:43:08.260 Okay.

00:43:09.120 Sorry.

00:43:09.880 Sorry.

00:43:11.100 Are you on birth control?

00:43:12.860 Oh.

00:43:13.520 No, I don't believe in birth control.

00:43:14.940 Oh, okay.

00:43:15.540 Because I believe that actually affects your level of arousement.

00:43:19.440 Yeah.

00:43:19.660 I'd never.

00:43:20.580 I'd never.

00:43:21.160 I think I went on birth control and I was like.

00:43:22.860 Oh.

00:43:22.920 Wait.

00:43:23.120 What is it?

00:43:23.500 Wait, wait.

00:43:23.800 Let's pull this one up really quick.

00:43:26.060 Oh, I know Mitch Jones.

00:43:27.160 He plays World of Warcraft.

00:43:28.620 Wait.

00:43:28.800 Hold on.

00:43:30.060 Speaking.

00:43:30.540 Wait.

00:43:30.820 Hey.

00:43:31.060 You don't know to get back into the frame.

00:43:32.600 What are you doing?

00:43:34.180 Ruined Mitch.

00:43:35.200 Ruined.

00:43:36.460 I didn't know you dated Mitch Jones.

00:43:38.360 I've seen his stream.

00:43:39.740 He recently played World of Warcraft.

00:43:43.120 Hardcore classic.

00:43:44.680 He plays a mage typically.

00:43:46.640 Now.

00:43:46.920 Oh, wait.

00:43:47.540 Did he?

00:43:48.520 Yeah.

00:43:48.760 He got.

00:43:49.280 He was in Frontier.

00:43:50.360 But while they were farming in Silithus, he died.

00:43:54.320 And in hardcore, once you die, that's it.

00:43:57.480 The Arcane Dream.

00:43:58.900 He's a great mage.

00:43:59.840 That's all I gotta say.

00:44:01.040 Solid mage.

00:44:01.480 Solid mage.

00:44:02.000 With friends.

00:44:02.520 Ask her about the time.

00:44:03.800 Wait.

00:44:04.200 Is this true?

00:44:06.660 What is true?

00:44:07.840 That you.

00:44:08.640 He's a great mage.

00:44:09.560 That is true.

00:44:10.500 That you drugged.

00:44:11.260 Did you drug Mitch Jones?

00:44:12.220 I don't know any.

00:44:12.940 I didn't even know you dated.

00:44:14.540 These are big accusations, my friends.

00:44:17.220 Is this slander?

00:44:17.860 Is this slander?

00:44:19.060 Harris?

00:44:20.560 Hearsay.

00:44:21.740 Hearsay.

00:44:22.340 Okay.

00:44:23.520 But Mitchell is a great mage.

00:44:25.820 I do confirm.

00:44:26.820 When did you guys.

00:44:27.380 You guys dated like how long ago?

00:44:30.440 Wait.

00:44:30.700 Was this your.

00:44:31.480 Wait.

00:44:31.840 Hold on.

00:44:32.840 Was this your eight year?

00:44:33.680 Was this your eight year?

00:44:34.200 No.

00:44:34.400 Not your eight.

00:44:34.800 Oh, no.

00:44:35.740 That would not work.

00:44:37.440 Were you guys in a relationship?

00:44:38.760 No.

00:44:39.040 We were just really good friends for a long time.

00:44:42.240 Actually, we spoke like a couple days ago.

00:44:44.160 We stay in touch.

00:44:45.040 He lives in Austin right now.

00:44:46.360 He's gonna.

00:44:46.700 Tell him to come on the podcast.

00:44:47.940 Mitch Jones, if you're watching.

00:44:49.620 Sure.

00:44:50.120 I will.

00:44:50.860 But he doesn't plan to anytime soon.

00:44:52.840 I don't say because there's a big wow release again.

00:44:54.860 I guess in a month.

00:44:55.760 He's gonna.

00:44:55.980 Season of discovery.

00:44:57.140 Yes.

00:44:57.880 He's gonna cave for a long time in Texas.

00:45:00.180 What's it called?

00:45:00.620 Cave?

00:45:01.460 Yeah.

00:45:01.860 Is that where you just like stay inside?

00:45:03.700 Yes.

00:45:04.100 We play and stream on Twitch.

00:45:05.260 That's how we met.

00:45:06.640 On Twitch?

00:45:08.060 Yeah.

00:45:08.220 We were both streamers there for like 10 years.

00:45:10.440 How did you guys meet?

00:45:12.180 Twitch calling or something?

00:45:12.380 My chat told me to talk to him.

00:45:14.520 His chat told me to talk to him.

00:45:15.940 Literally that first conversation was on Twitch.

00:45:18.600 That's some Cupid shit.

00:45:19.600 It is.

00:45:20.080 It really is.

00:45:21.220 Twitch chat connects hearts.

00:45:22.640 It's really cute.

00:45:23.840 Yeah.

00:45:24.120 I'm sure some very healthy relationships have come from.

00:45:29.060 I feel like from what I've heard,

00:45:31.500 a lot of these like creator relationships are catastrophic.

00:45:36.960 Yeah.

00:45:37.860 It's hard to do that when so many people are nitpicking and watching every step that you

00:45:44.020 make.

00:45:44.440 And obviously they're gonna have their own past experiences.

00:45:47.140 They're gonna project into your relationship.

00:45:50.160 So it can become like a shit show.

00:45:52.120 If it's not a very strong, healthy relationship,

00:45:54.800 which most younger people just don't have that going on,

00:45:58.300 that can tear it apart.

00:45:59.880 People will tear it apart.

00:46:01.180 You have to be very careful and like,

00:46:04.200 I guess,

00:46:04.780 conserve it as much as you can.

00:46:06.360 Only like be very selective with what you show.

00:46:09.200 But so you were dating him.

00:46:12.600 Okay, Brian.

00:46:13.460 Yes.

00:46:13.840 No, I'm asking.

00:46:14.500 I'm asking.

00:46:15.220 I don't know any details.

00:46:16.740 I've seen his stream like three times.

00:46:18.520 I'm not super familiar.

00:46:20.460 We had fun.

00:46:21.200 Actually, no.

00:46:21.540 I think I DMed him a couple months ago to see if he wants to be on the show,

00:46:25.560 but that's the extent of it.

00:46:26.520 I can talk to him about it.

00:46:27.520 I think that would be interesting.

00:46:28.500 We have good chemistry when we interact.

00:46:29.860 He's got some riz.

00:46:32.980 He does.

00:46:33.320 Some charisma.

00:46:34.280 He's honestly really fun to hang out with.

00:46:36.760 Yeah, he seems like a good guy.

00:46:38.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:38.800 Mitch Jones, come on.

00:46:39.800 We'll talk about World of Warcraft and Season of Discovery.

00:46:42.620 Next time.

00:46:43.120 If you got a guild, we'll pitch.

00:46:45.460 We'll help you recruit.

00:46:46.640 Okay.

00:46:46.780 Not that you need it.

00:46:49.000 Okay.

00:46:49.580 So, but so were you guys like friends with benefits?

00:46:52.340 What was boyfriend, girlfriend?

00:46:53.840 What was the extent of the relationship?

00:46:57.360 What?

00:46:57.760 You did date him, right?

00:46:58.980 You really don't let me get away with vague answers, huh?

00:47:02.220 Well, it's just easier if you're just precise.

00:47:03.980 That way I can get a quick answer.

00:47:05.500 You can answer.

00:47:06.080 Then I can keep things moving.

00:47:08.180 What is your relationship status, Brian?

00:47:10.440 Oh my God, this girl.

00:47:11.600 Is it her?

00:47:12.540 Yes, I am currently in a long term.

00:47:15.300 She, I'm actually, was going to propose to her tonight, but no, actually she's a virgin.

00:47:22.580 Her chastity is intact, so if you'd like, I can arrange.

00:47:26.300 What's her name?

00:47:27.380 Kiki.

00:47:28.400 Do you love me?

00:47:30.280 Exactly.

00:47:30.720 Oh my God, this is okay.

00:47:32.460 Just burning seconds here.

00:47:35.920 What was the boyfriend, girlfriend?

00:47:37.920 I mean, it's clear people know you guys were romantically involved, so it'd be very simple

00:47:41.600 instead of me having to try to pull it out of you, if you'd just be like, oh yeah, we

00:47:45.140 were boyfriend, girlfriend.

00:47:46.940 Is it clear?

00:47:47.620 I don't think we ever had like a sex tape or anything.

00:47:50.500 We'd just like hang out.

00:47:51.740 We hang out.

00:47:52.500 That's all like on streams.

00:47:53.960 Well, you could still.

00:47:54.740 And quarreled a lot for entertainment of Twitch chat.

00:47:58.360 They liked that.

00:47:59.120 So you guys, were you guys monogamous?

00:48:03.820 Exclusive?

00:48:05.600 Oh no, he was sleeping around a lot.

00:48:09.020 Okay.

00:48:09.800 So it wasn't exclusive.

00:48:11.220 So you guys were like, it was a situationship, friends with benefits type thing?

00:48:14.800 I think we were just streaming on Twitch, entertaining people and like having a good time.

00:48:19.880 That's how I would define that.

00:48:23.120 Because back then.

00:48:23.780 You could have just said, oh, we were just friends.

00:48:26.180 But it's not.

00:48:26.920 But were you dating?

00:48:28.100 There's definitely an edge that was added to it, but.

00:48:31.580 Did you guys have pee in the V?

00:48:34.160 Was there pee in the V?

00:48:35.120 Yes, no, just the tip.

00:48:44.440 I'm not ready to answer that question.

00:48:45.880 Just for a second.

00:48:47.460 Just to see how it feels.

00:48:49.460 No, that would be pity sex.

00:48:52.680 Okay.

00:48:53.120 Okay, so where were we?

00:49:00.480 Next to Kiki.

00:49:02.160 Relationship status, go ahead.

00:49:03.780 It's a little complicated right now.

00:49:08.460 Before I went to China on vacation, I met someone I kind of liked, but I didn't exactly know what his boundaries and things were.

00:49:17.040 So I kind of gave him kind of like a contract thing of mine to read over to see if he agrees.

00:49:22.400 Oh, that's right.

00:49:23.180 Wait.

00:49:23.440 And then like.

00:49:25.000 You have a.

00:49:26.440 Consent form.

00:49:27.840 No, I don't know.

00:49:28.660 I love that.

00:49:29.880 It doesn't exactly have to be followed.

00:49:31.960 There's like a list of negotiables and non-negotiables and things.

00:49:36.700 But it's like my boundaries and then he can add his.

00:49:40.400 And if we both kind of align, then I'm willing to like date.

00:49:42.820 So wait, are you currently, are you single or what's your relationship status?

00:49:50.200 I'm just.

00:49:51.260 Complicated?

00:49:51.880 It's complicated.

00:49:52.900 I'm not saying anyone else.

00:49:54.060 I'm just kind of waiting until I get back after this to see the response.

00:49:58.500 Did you bring a copy of the contract?

00:50:00.260 I asked her.

00:50:00.940 I asked her if she has the contract.

00:50:02.800 When I was asking to come on the show, I wasn't sure when I'd be back from China.

00:50:06.820 And then once I knew, I gave a date of when I could come on the show.

00:50:10.860 And then I didn't bring my left.

00:50:11.860 Wait, can you straighten?

00:50:13.060 Sorry.

00:50:13.640 I didn't bring my laptop with me to China.

00:50:16.560 So I couldn't send a document.

00:50:19.260 Do you speak Mandarin?

00:50:20.620 I learned a little bit while I was there, but.

00:50:22.980 Why were you in China?

00:50:24.980 I wanted to travel.

00:50:26.400 Just, okay.

00:50:27.120 And also a little bit of work.

00:50:28.240 Because in like China, there's cosplay studios where they have themed rooms.

00:50:33.560 And you could dress up as specific characters and take pictures.

00:50:36.520 I picked a specific Genshin Impact theme one in Shanghai that I wanted to do.

00:50:42.340 And I did like three different characters from that video game.

00:50:44.620 And the person you're dating, are they from China?

00:50:47.400 The person I'm interested in is.

00:50:50.960 Okay.

00:50:51.340 Okay.

00:50:51.540 I see.

00:50:52.580 So, okay.

00:50:54.680 It's complicated with a guy from China.

00:50:57.440 How long has it been complicated with said person?

00:50:59.860 Um, it was recently I started talking to them.

00:51:04.160 Maybe a month.

00:51:06.400 One month.

00:51:06.960 Okay.

00:51:07.500 Longest.

00:51:08.020 Longest.

00:51:08.380 They're still reviewing the contract?

00:51:09.800 Well, I mean, it didn't exactly start off that way.

00:51:12.280 But then we kind of, I guess, vibed in friend groups.

00:51:17.420 Oh.

00:51:18.360 Vibed.

00:51:19.180 Yeah.

00:51:20.240 Um.

00:51:21.300 Longest relationship?

00:51:23.000 Four and a half years.

00:51:24.340 Four and a half years.

00:51:25.700 Okay.

00:51:26.440 Very cool.

00:51:27.520 What about you?

00:51:27.980 I am married.

00:51:30.940 I've been married.

00:51:32.020 We got, well, um, we eloped in Arkansas in February.

00:51:38.280 Okay.

00:51:38.680 And then we have a wedding, like, at home with all our friends and family.

00:51:42.060 How long have you been married?

00:51:43.400 Since February.

00:51:44.400 Oh, since February.

00:51:45.160 Okay.

00:51:45.360 Sorry, I missed that.

00:51:46.320 Uh, any kids or no?

00:51:48.160 No.

00:51:48.580 No kids.

00:51:49.160 Okay.

00:51:49.500 Gotcha.

00:51:50.500 All right.

00:51:51.240 Uh, Andrew, what about you?

00:51:53.260 Uh, yeah.

00:51:54.260 I've been married for, with the same woman for most years.

00:51:57.960 My adult life.

00:51:59.360 So.

00:51:59.980 How long have you guys been married?

00:52:02.340 Um, this is going to get me in trouble.

00:52:04.960 Well, you don't know.

00:52:05.700 Uh, a long time.

00:52:06.960 A really long time.

00:52:08.160 Okay.

00:52:08.960 10, 10 plus years?

00:52:10.140 Yeah.

00:52:10.420 Okay.

00:52:10.700 Got it.

00:52:11.760 Gotcha.

00:52:12.360 Okay, cool.

00:52:13.500 So, we got through, we got through the relationship status.

00:52:16.600 So, I'm going to do, I'm going to read a couple of the chats that we have here.

00:52:20.300 We have, uh, John Galt.

00:52:24.540 Can you ask the girls if a guy owning a gun is a positive, deal breaker, or neutral?

00:52:28.480 P.S.

00:52:28.980 P.S.

00:52:29.420 Shout out to Farah.

00:52:30.400 She's cool.

00:52:31.200 Would be cool to see Destiny back on as well.

00:52:34.020 Hey, John Galt.

00:52:34.700 Thank you so much, man.

00:52:35.300 Appreciate it.

00:52:36.220 Uh, yeah.

00:52:36.600 I think we'll, uh, we might actually be having Destiny back on the show soon.

00:52:40.720 So, uh, yeah.

00:52:41.880 I'm going around the table starting with you.

00:52:43.840 Uh, maybe I can frame it.

00:52:47.380 Or, yeah.

00:52:47.900 I'll, I mean, I'll just use his question.

00:52:49.900 A guy owning a gun is a positive, deal breaker, or neutral?

00:52:55.600 Depends on his level of intelligence and self-control.

00:52:58.780 But, technically, it's neutral.

00:53:01.020 Technically neutral.

00:53:02.160 Okay.

00:53:02.980 Gotcha.

00:53:04.240 What about you?

00:53:04.660 I would say neutral.

00:53:05.780 Okay.

00:53:06.140 I think whether or not you want to own a gun is one thing, but I think everyone should

00:53:10.880 know how to use one in case one comes into your hands.

00:53:14.740 So, I would say it's not negative or positive.

00:53:18.060 Maybe if he owned too many guns.

00:53:20.500 Sure.

00:53:20.700 Because my father was in the NRA and knew how to build guns from scratch.

00:53:25.020 And then he tried to, like, murder.

00:53:26.800 I don't know if I can say that, actually.

00:53:28.200 Just some crazy shit happened.

00:53:29.360 No, you can say it.

00:53:30.300 And...

00:53:30.660 Wait, you're, he tried to murder?

00:53:32.440 Um, he tried to have me murder him and, like, my best friend, we, like, almost all died.

00:53:36.840 Wait, he tried to murder you and your friends?

00:53:39.620 He put a gun in my hand to have me try to kill him and was, like, holding my hand with the

00:53:43.880 gun in his head.

00:53:44.620 Why?

00:53:45.000 Hand in his head.

00:53:45.680 Holy...

00:53:46.080 That's, like, a long...

00:53:47.100 He's, like...

00:53:47.540 Yeah, we don't...

00:53:48.060 If that's a sensitive subject...

00:53:49.860 Oh, it's not sensitive.

00:53:50.720 Oh, okay.

00:53:50.880 Like, I don't give a fuck.

00:53:52.680 How old were you when that happened?

00:53:53.940 I was 17 when this happened.

00:53:55.900 Holy fuck.

00:53:56.380 And so I grew up around guns, like, all my family, like, all the, they, you know, come

00:54:01.440 from Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, you know, they're hunting, they, all the whole thing.

00:54:05.400 So it was never something that was, like, oh, my God.

00:54:06.980 And as I got older, it wasn't so appealing.

00:54:10.340 I think we should have gun rights, but I don't think we, like, guns need to disappear.

00:54:14.280 Right.

00:54:14.580 But, um, so I think it gets concerning when it's, like, here's my 45 gun collection of

00:54:21.880 different guns.

00:54:22.760 And, like...

00:54:23.880 Right.

00:54:24.100 And then I think we're, like, hmm...

00:54:26.140 Okay.

00:54:27.400 Farah, what about you?

00:54:28.620 I think it's a positive.

00:54:29.580 I want to get a gun, but if he makes it his whole personality, then I would say it's negative.

00:54:33.040 Fair.

00:54:33.500 Fair.

00:54:34.060 What about you?

00:54:34.460 Yeah.

00:54:35.100 Um, I mean, I do have a license to own a gun, so I know how to use guns.

00:54:40.000 My dad taught me how to use guns, but obviously if someone's, like, a murderer, I don't think

00:54:45.060 I'd feel comfortable with them having a gun.

00:54:46.580 Well, I mean...

00:54:47.240 Would you date a...

00:54:47.740 Let's maybe go around the table on this.

00:54:49.500 Would you date a murderer?

00:54:50.740 Technically, if you murdered someone in self-defense, you're...

00:54:54.100 You're technically still a murderer, so...

00:54:56.560 Oh, that's not...

00:54:57.520 No, you wouldn't be a murderer, so murder would be the unjustified taking of a life.

00:55:01.560 With matthews and stuff.

00:55:02.500 So if it's self-defense, it would be a murder.

00:55:04.420 Okay, but, like, what if someone was...

00:55:05.780 Manslaughter?

00:55:06.640 Okay, yeah, I would.

00:55:07.780 No, it wouldn't even be manslaughter, so it would...

00:55:11.100 Self-defense would be in opposition to murder, which...

00:55:13.680 So self-defense would be a justified taking of a life, and murder would be the unjustified

00:55:19.060 taking.

00:55:19.080 But the outcome of that...

00:55:19.680 But if you still kill someone, you still kill someone, so, like, what would...

00:55:22.620 Yeah, that would be killing.

00:55:23.360 That would just be killing.

00:55:24.960 I'm trying to Google this.

00:55:26.220 Hold on.

00:55:26.400 Okay.

00:55:27.220 Murderer definition.

00:55:27.680 But you can also...

00:55:28.500 That could vary depending what state you're in.

00:55:30.500 If I were to go out with my hunting rifle and kill a deer, do you think I murdered it?

00:55:34.900 Yeah.

00:55:35.280 He is technically...

00:55:36.040 You think I murdered it?

00:55:37.820 Yeah.

00:55:38.200 Or...

00:55:38.300 Yeah.

00:55:38.660 So if I ate it, then is it justified, or is it still murder?

00:55:42.500 What?

00:55:42.880 I don't know.

00:55:43.280 I'm a pescateer.

00:55:43.920 I think...

00:55:44.380 Well, I think...

00:55:45.040 So technically, yes.

00:55:46.340 So murder is the unlawful killing.

00:55:48.480 So what would you...

00:55:50.080 Is there a name for somebody who kills somebody?

00:55:52.640 Like, is there a term for somebody who kills somebody, but it's not murder?

00:55:57.900 Yeah.

00:55:58.080 Well, there's all sorts of different ones.

00:55:59.500 It's aggravated assault, right?

00:56:01.540 Well, let's not get it.

00:56:02.400 We don't need to...

00:56:02.820 Okay, I'm derailing the conversation.

00:56:05.160 Murder is reduced to something.

00:56:07.060 So he's just killing.

00:56:07.900 Fine with guns, I think, it sounded like you're fine with guns.

00:56:10.880 Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with guns.

00:56:11.340 As long as they're not a murderer.

00:56:12.420 Yeah.

00:56:12.780 Okay.

00:56:13.420 What about you?

00:56:13.980 I'm fine with guns, like, maybe a regular, I don't know, handgun or something for self-defense.

00:56:19.820 Okay.

00:56:21.660 Also, fine with guns.

00:56:24.360 I had Garrett hunts all the time.

00:56:26.800 We just left...

00:56:27.840 We were just at his hunting camp for, like, a week over Thanksgiving, so...

00:56:32.060 Very familiar kind of guns.

00:56:32.980 Wait, just a question for you.

00:56:36.160 So you said a handgun.

00:56:38.240 What about just a semi-automatic rifle?

00:56:42.440 Why?

00:56:43.080 I'm not sure.

00:56:44.340 It all depends on the situation.

00:56:46.820 If it could be justified, then...

00:56:49.040 What if I told you...

00:56:50.960 What about, okay, a semi-automatic weapon?

00:56:55.820 I'm not sure.

00:56:57.020 Like a handgun?

00:56:57.700 Right, which was...

00:56:59.060 A handgun is a semi-automatic weapon.

00:57:03.460 Well, some of them are, yeah.

00:57:04.400 Yeah, not all of them.

00:57:05.240 I'm not very familiar with guns and terms, but...

00:57:07.740 Oh, okay, we got Raven DT.

00:57:10.340 Oh, justifiable homicide.

00:57:12.620 The term is justifiable homicide.

00:57:15.740 But what would...

00:57:17.100 Is there a name for the person...

00:57:20.140 Like, is there a term for somebody who's killed somebody?

00:57:22.740 Is it just killer?

00:57:23.680 Oh, manslaughter.

00:57:24.660 No, no, it's not.

00:57:26.480 Manslaughter is...

00:57:27.100 Anyways, it doesn't really matter.

00:57:28.200 It doesn't really matter.

00:57:30.040 We have a chat here from...

00:57:32.600 Hold on, I'm going to wait until this one...

00:57:34.720 The term is...

00:57:35.400 One sec, it's coming up.

00:57:36.360 It's from Aiden Smash.

00:57:39.860 She, Myra, want to get a viral clip to get even more simps in her OnlyFans.

00:57:43.560 She's full of shit.

00:57:44.420 Time to castle her.

00:57:46.440 Are you full of shit?

00:57:48.260 Mira.

00:57:48.960 Myra.

00:57:50.400 Yes, you're full of shit.

00:57:51.340 Are you teaching me how to pronounce my own name?

00:57:52.920 No, I'm just terrible with names, so I'm going to probably continue to butcher it throughout

00:57:56.540 the rest of the show, but don't take it personally.

00:58:01.320 Okay, Bren.

00:58:02.620 What's that?

00:58:03.960 You heard me.

00:58:06.520 Because I mispronounced your name?

00:58:09.020 Yes, this is war.

00:58:10.480 This is war?

00:58:11.420 Oh, my God, this girl.

00:58:12.380 Okay.

00:58:14.460 This girl.

00:58:19.560 What do you guys think, chat?

00:58:21.200 Chat, what do you guys think?

00:58:23.480 What do you guys think, chat?

00:58:28.260 Well, back to the other question.

00:58:29.540 What does the chat think they're teaming?

00:58:33.240 She's like...

00:58:34.040 Wait.

00:58:38.120 Oh, hold on.

00:58:39.340 I'm reading the chat here.

00:58:41.420 What do you guys think, chat?

00:58:43.060 Is this a kick?

00:58:44.020 I don't know.

00:58:44.500 We'll let it slide, but like, can you relax a little bit?

00:58:50.940 Can you help me relax?

00:58:54.400 Why are you being like...

00:58:56.460 Is that like a good faith question, or are you just being obnoxious?

00:59:01.220 I'm just used to streaming on Twitch.

00:59:03.320 That's usually how it goes.

00:59:04.740 How does what go?

00:59:05.400 I thought this was similar.

00:59:07.460 Entertainment.

00:59:09.540 What's entertaining how?

00:59:11.080 She hasn't seen this show.

00:59:14.080 This is her first podcast appearance.

00:59:15.340 She's not familiar with the way you structure the flow.

00:59:19.080 What do you mean?

00:59:20.420 What's structured?

00:59:21.400 She's not trying to obstruct.

00:59:22.800 She's trying to...

00:59:23.700 She thinks this is your content.

00:59:26.420 Do you think that's like how normal people have a conversation, though?

00:59:28.360 Just out of curiosity.

00:59:29.780 You want me to deem her abnormal for...

00:59:31.980 No, but remember in the beginning when they were like trying to have a good, normal, flowed conversation.

00:59:37.500 That's the point.

00:59:38.960 I think she wants to talk about certain topics.

00:59:40.980 She just doesn't want to disclose certain details about her identity.

00:59:44.100 I think that's fair.

00:59:45.320 Yeah.

00:59:46.420 That's fair.

00:59:48.820 Okay.

00:59:49.360 All right.

00:59:49.860 Moving on.

00:59:51.080 All right.

00:59:51.580 Let's get into some of the notes here.

00:59:55.320 I don't get the gun question.

00:59:56.900 Oh, sorry.

00:59:57.580 I don't get the gun question.

00:59:58.400 Was it directed at...

00:59:59.240 It might have just been directed at the women, but...

01:00:01.980 And what about, would you date a murderer?

01:00:04.360 I'm curious to hear everyone's answers.

01:00:06.260 No.

01:00:07.120 Criminality in women is incredibly unattractive, so no, I would not.

01:00:10.220 Go ahead.

01:00:11.940 Only women?

01:00:12.720 To the gun question, did you want to...

01:00:14.020 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:14.500 Yeah, just guns are awesome in every single capacity, and people should own lots of them.

01:00:19.720 What is your favorite gun?

01:00:21.380 For me, I like AK-47s.

01:00:23.280 For what reason?

01:00:25.200 Well, because they have a...

01:00:27.280 I like the payload that the AK-47 delivers to the target.

01:00:31.980 He likes the payload.

01:00:33.240 What do you usually use as a target?

01:00:36.420 I don't know.

01:00:37.100 Like, small clay pigeons.

01:00:41.300 Clay.

01:00:41.840 Then I paint obnoxious women's faces on them.

01:00:45.500 He's kidding.

01:00:46.360 I'm just joking.

01:00:47.120 It's a joke.

01:00:47.500 It's a joke.

01:00:48.060 Okay.

01:00:49.180 Yeah.

01:00:50.620 That was funny.

01:00:51.580 Wait, fuck.

01:00:59.180 Hold on.

01:01:00.300 You don't call retarded people retards.

01:01:04.000 It's bad taste.

01:01:05.840 You don't call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.

01:01:09.760 Ableism's okay off of Twitch.

01:01:11.280 It's not a communist dictatorship.

01:01:12.660 Yeah, we would have been banned on Twitch for that.

01:01:14.900 Somewhere.

01:01:15.700 Actually, it was because my friend said that word.

01:01:17.500 It was Michael Scott who said it, not anybody at the table, so it's okay.

01:01:22.640 All right, let's get into some of the pre-show questions here, or some of the notes that you

01:01:28.800 guys provided for me.

01:01:29.840 So, Yamani, you said someone has paid me to take off of work and go on a date, but that

01:01:36.780 is pretty normal for a lot of girls in L.A.

01:01:39.280 Okay, so we have a couple girls here who, you live in L.A., correct?

01:01:46.040 Sherman Oaks.

01:01:47.620 Is that L.A.?

01:01:48.520 Yeah.

01:01:48.660 I think that's L.A. County.

01:01:49.700 Or is it Ventura?

01:01:50.120 No, it's L.A.

01:01:50.900 Is that Ventura County?

01:01:52.080 No, it's L.A.

01:01:53.080 I live in the Valley, too.

01:01:54.020 Or Oxnard County?

01:01:54.720 Is it L.A. County?

01:01:55.580 It's L.A.

01:01:56.920 You're in L.A., you're in L.A., you're in L.A.

01:02:02.040 Is that common?

01:02:03.160 Yeah.

01:02:04.160 Dude's paying you to take time.

01:02:06.480 Wait, what do you do for work again?

01:02:07.480 I do bottle service.

01:02:09.100 Bottle service.

01:02:10.220 Okay.

01:02:11.240 So, like, has that happened multiple times to you where a guy will pay you, be like,

01:02:16.540 yo, just take the day off.

01:02:18.860 I'll cover it.

01:02:21.200 Almost probably every night that I work, I would say someone offers that.

01:02:27.180 Obviously, not every night do I go.

01:02:29.680 Right, yeah.

01:02:30.760 But usually, the implication is that, like, if I'm tired, I don't feel like hanging out,

01:02:38.140 so I'll tell someone I have work, I don't really feel like it, and they'll be like,

01:02:40.960 okay, well, if I just pay you however much you're going to make at work, would you just

01:02:45.580 come with me for dinner?

01:02:47.700 Is this a question for you?

01:02:48.860 How many nights per week do you work?

01:02:50.740 Is it like Thursday, Friday, Saturday type thing?

01:02:52.480 Yeah, like, I guess, like, we'll take, I guess, like, four, yeah, maybe, like, four nights

01:02:59.920 a week or something like that.

01:03:00.960 Okay, so your, like, weekend nights typically are going to be preoccupied with work, so a

01:03:07.100 guy might be inclined to offer you payment to take it off so he can take you on a date.

01:03:13.520 What is the, what's the asking price there?

01:03:16.600 500 bucks for you to take off the night?

01:03:18.840 What's the guy got to pay?

01:03:20.100 Well, I don't.

01:03:20.740 Not that I'm encouraging it, but I'm curious how much.

01:03:24.160 I don't necessarily have a price because.

01:03:28.020 Okay, Yamani.

01:03:29.140 Did I say your name right?

01:03:30.020 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:30.260 Okay.

01:03:31.260 Oh, he got my name right.

01:03:32.900 That's crazy.

01:03:33.620 Sorry, Myra.

01:03:34.320 Did I say right?

01:03:35.360 That's crazy.

01:03:36.320 Is it Mira?

01:03:36.460 Mira, Myra.

01:03:37.080 Is there any implication as to what you're going to do during those days?

01:03:40.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:03:41.360 I think a lot of times.

01:03:43.740 That's a reach.

01:03:44.300 There is, obviously there's an implication when you give a girl specifically money.

01:03:52.320 Because of the implication?

01:03:54.200 Never mind.

01:03:54.800 Okay.

01:03:55.160 It's always sunny in Philadelphia joke.

01:03:57.100 Never mind.

01:03:57.300 I'm sure you know, but obviously there's some implication that probably something sexual

01:04:01.760 would happen.

01:04:02.460 So I don't typically like just go on dates with people for money because I, like I said,

01:04:10.020 I'm not super sexual, so I would hate to like hang out with someone and they give me money

01:04:14.820 and then I'm like, well, I don't really want to do that.

01:04:17.280 So, um, I mean, not always, but there, I don't, I don't know.

01:04:23.620 I don't think I've been on like that many to like really know, but I've never.

01:04:28.780 Yamani, I want to take you out on Friday.

01:04:31.960 You're working, you have work.

01:04:35.020 Like, what does it cost to get you to take off work for me to take you on a date or a

01:04:40.540 guy?

01:04:41.320 I mean, I don't have a price.

01:04:42.920 That's not like what I.

01:04:44.160 Oh, so, okay.

01:04:45.020 I'll pay you 20 bucks.

01:04:46.180 Well, no.

01:04:47.220 Okay.

01:04:47.620 So there is a price.

01:04:48.880 You're saying you avoid it.

01:04:50.140 Oh, well, usually someone would say like, I don't know, I guess, what would you make at

01:04:53.780 work if it's a Saturday night?

01:04:55.720 I don't know.

01:04:56.460 I don't know.

01:04:57.000 It just depends.

01:04:58.360 That's why like, I feel like you probably don't have a number is like bottle service.

01:05:01.840 One night you can make like 500 in tips.

01:05:03.680 One night you can make 5,000 in tips.

01:05:06.160 So, yeah.

01:05:07.280 And also, I'm not, nothing wrong if you go on dates for money, but like, I don't have

01:05:12.060 like a, it has to be $500 if we, if you want to go to dinner.

01:05:16.660 Well, I got to interject there.

01:05:17.800 I do think there is something wrong if you go on dates for money.

01:05:20.940 Why?

01:05:22.300 Well.

01:05:23.120 Because she says the implication is sexual.

01:05:25.320 Well, if everyone's clear on what's happening.

01:05:27.960 What if you make it clear?

01:05:28.680 I just want to let you know, like, even though you're paying me, like, nothing's happening

01:05:32.000 after this.

01:05:32.840 We're not getting crazy.

01:05:34.140 Which is why sometimes I don't, because I let people know that I'm not, that's, I'm not.

01:05:39.060 Like, some girls will do the whole leading thing on and be like, oh yeah, and then like

01:05:43.080 put themselves in danger.

01:05:44.260 Well, if you're going on the date without an actual genuine intention that there's a possibility

01:05:49.920 that you could romantically pursue the guy, that's what I would, like, if you're just

01:05:55.580 strictly going on a date, first off, I don't think men ought to be offering money to women

01:06:01.640 to go.

01:06:01.660 Well, yeah, there's a market for it, so.

01:06:03.400 Yeah.

01:06:03.920 That's why, that's why people do it.

01:06:04.540 Well, that's some sim shit.

01:06:05.840 Men shouldn't be offering money.

01:06:07.760 Like, good for you, get, get your bag or whatever, but I don't think men should be,

01:06:13.060 I'll pay you $500 to go on a date with me.

01:06:16.060 That's pathetic.

01:06:18.040 Good for you, not pathetic for you.

01:06:20.760 Pathetic.

01:06:21.160 Like, I blame the men.

01:06:22.520 Isn't that called escort?

01:06:24.820 It's not clear to me if, it's just like, it's not clear to me if she's escorting in

01:06:28.560 so far as she's working and in order for her to, I don't know, it kind of blurs the

01:06:36.020 lines a little bit, but.

01:06:37.060 I mean, yeah, which is, I, I, I'm not like a dater.

01:06:41.280 I, I, I don't do this all the time or like often even, so.

01:06:45.900 Couldn't you date men on your nights off?

01:06:48.800 I absolutely could.

01:06:49.940 Okay, first of all.

01:06:50.920 You're not advertising, hey, if you want to take me out, you'd have to pay me.

01:06:55.400 They're like, no, no, no, babe.

01:06:57.880 Here, what, how much do you make?

01:06:59.380 I'll cover it.

01:07:00.120 Come spend the night with, or come hang out with me.

01:07:02.840 Like, as a girl, sometimes we have to tell, like, I've told a guy, no, that I don't want

01:07:08.740 to go on a date with you probably 10 times in a night.

01:07:10.680 So sometimes like maybe the fourth, fifth time.

01:07:13.880 Wait, the same dude, you'll tell him no?

01:07:15.320 Yeah, I've, I, there's, I've had a, like, at work all night, had to tell someone all

01:07:20.580 night.

01:07:20.760 I have, I, anyone, girl knows this, but like, especially working at a club, I've literally

01:07:25.420 had guys like, wait for me at work.

01:07:27.460 That's why they have to walk you to your car.

01:07:29.740 I mean, like.

01:07:30.940 I mean, I'm not like.

01:07:32.280 If a girl, yeah, I mean, if the girl, if a girl turns you down, like, move on.

01:07:38.540 I agree.

01:07:39.920 You would think.

01:07:40.420 Sometimes they offer you money.

01:07:43.800 I mean, if you, if a girl says, for example, like, oh, I can't hang out tonight, he might

01:07:47.500 say, well, what about another night?

01:07:48.980 But then if you say, no, I don't want to hang out with you.

01:07:52.340 That's what, like, I, okay.

01:07:54.880 Like, as a guy, you should move on.

01:07:57.360 But obviously we know that's not the case with everyone.

01:08:00.660 Yeah, that's yikes.

01:08:00.960 I'm not saying all guys are like that.

01:08:02.540 I don't agree.

01:08:03.680 Just to clarify, I was just curious, as he was kind of going through the questions.

01:08:07.200 So if a guy does call you or gets ahold of you in whatever way and says, I want to buy

01:08:12.320 out your day, your work day to come hang out with me or whatever.

01:08:15.680 And there is an implication of sex.

01:08:17.700 Have you ever agreed to those?

01:08:20.320 No, but I'm not against it.

01:08:24.460 I, I don't, I'm, I'm not against anyone who does that.

01:08:27.240 I, I don't judge anyone.

01:08:29.000 But would you call that prostitution?

01:08:32.200 I'm pretty sure that's the definition of prostitution, so I think everyone would call

01:08:35.360 that.

01:08:35.600 Well, not, I don't, I don't know if everyone would.

01:08:36.980 Are you trying to ask if I'm.

01:08:38.020 Nope, I'm not asking that.

01:08:39.200 I'm just asking.

01:08:40.120 You're trying to leave.

01:08:40.920 I'm just asking just to clarify it, right?

01:08:43.900 So if you, if you said no to that, it would.

01:08:46.080 If someone says, can I give you $500 to have sex with you?

01:08:49.640 And you say yes, whether you go on a date or not, whether it, that is what a prostitute.

01:08:55.840 Okay, I agree.

01:08:56.780 A hundred percent, I agree.

01:08:58.060 I'm just asking if, if that situation comes up, if you say yes to.

01:09:03.980 Technically, I would be soliciting if I agree to have sex with someone for money.

01:09:10.040 Okay.

01:09:10.320 I would technically, yeah.

01:09:11.900 Is it, but I don't know, like in the example she provided, she's working.

01:09:15.440 If a man, the man is not paying her for sex, the man is paying her to, to not go to work

01:09:25.260 where she would otherwise make the money that the man is offering.

01:09:28.680 So it's not clear.

01:09:29.980 I mean, the lines are perhaps to some degree, a little blurred, but because a man could also

01:09:34.520 say, let's hang out on the night you aren't working.

01:09:38.920 Yeah.

01:09:39.180 And if I like them, we can hang out on the night I'm not working.

01:09:42.260 Right.

01:09:42.840 But I guess guys are that pressed to.

01:09:45.480 Do you ever feel pressure to have sex with them if they were to pay you for a date?

01:09:51.400 Um, I don't know.

01:09:55.060 I don't think anyone's ever like given me so much money.

01:09:59.740 I, that I've like.

01:10:00.880 She's asking what your price is.

01:10:02.520 I just told you guys like four times.

01:10:04.540 I'm not, I don't have a price for going out on.

01:10:07.260 Um, I, I don't like charge for a date.

01:10:09.900 I mostly, my boyfriends or people that I dated have not paid me to go on a date, but

01:10:15.900 it has happened.

01:10:18.040 It's like, I think any girl has been offered money.

01:10:20.920 So, um, yeah.

01:10:23.140 And I personally know I haven't felt that pressure, but.

01:10:28.000 Okay.

01:10:28.300 It's fine.

01:10:28.780 Um, another thing from you.

01:10:30.500 I also don't think you said, you said in your notes here, I also don't think we were meant

01:10:34.900 to always be together forever as partners.

01:10:36.580 Some of us aren't meant to date long-term, be taken seriously, which is okay.

01:10:41.900 Yes.

01:10:44.160 And are you speaking just for you?

01:10:46.640 Like, do you think that's kind of.

01:10:48.060 No, I think a lot of people put so much pressure, especially women, but also men.

01:10:52.560 There's a lot of pressure on men to like get married or just people in general to form

01:10:57.980 like monogamous bonds, especially when you heat, like reach certain markers in your life.

01:11:03.760 And I just don't think everyone's meant to be monogamous with one person for the rest

01:11:09.420 of their life.

01:11:09.780 I know guys who like, obviously we know people, guys and girls who are married, they cheat all

01:11:15.100 the time.

01:11:15.560 Like if that's the case, you're not meant to be monogamous.

01:11:19.840 So.

01:11:20.040 Okay.

01:11:20.480 I agree on this.

01:11:21.480 Actually.

01:11:21.840 I believe there was historical significance, like meaning as to why monogamy was kind of

01:11:29.880 like glorified in our society.

01:11:31.360 It was easier to survive, to provide when you stick to like one unit, but these days

01:11:37.640 our life became so.

01:11:38.920 That's not why.

01:11:39.860 Is that okay if we finish the point?

01:11:41.520 Hold on.

01:11:41.940 Oh, wait.

01:11:42.520 I'll let you finish the point.

01:11:43.180 Seven deadly sins donated $200.

01:11:45.140 Oh, okay.

01:11:45.480 What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.

01:11:50.240 At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that

01:11:55.440 could be considered a rational thought.

01:11:57.500 Who is that for?

01:11:57.860 Everyone is now dumber for having listened to it.

01:12:00.380 It's a movie.

01:12:00.960 Wow.

01:12:01.580 That's a movie reference.

01:12:02.200 Is that, what movie is that?

01:12:03.520 It's, uh.

01:12:04.400 Oh, I think.

01:12:04.820 I think that that's.

01:12:05.860 It's on the tip of my tongue.

01:12:07.340 No, it's Adam Sandler.

01:12:08.500 It's Adam Sandler.

01:12:09.480 I can't remember the name.

01:12:10.660 I want to say it's Billy Madison.

01:12:11.840 I think it's Billy Madison.

01:12:13.700 Go on.

01:12:14.360 Continue with your point.

01:12:15.120 Okay.

01:12:15.780 I feel like these days we became so comfortable, independent, just our life became so convenient

01:12:25.080 that surviving on our own and making choices based on what we actually want to do in the

01:12:31.240 moment is a norm.

01:12:32.740 And this is sort of a outdated, I suppose, part of the system where people feel the pressure

01:12:39.180 to get married or have kids by a certain age that we don't need to do it anymore.

01:12:44.640 And a lot of people, like you said, they sort of get stuck and pressured to be in relationships.

01:12:51.180 They don't feel happy.

01:12:52.460 And so many families that are married, I've been noticing just from what I was observing,

01:12:59.020 are together for reasons that are actually not authentic, whether they're feeling lonely

01:13:04.760 or they want safety or sex.

01:13:07.440 And if you look deeper into it, it looks good like on the outside, but inside they're miserable

01:13:12.120 and the relationship is quite toxic.

01:13:14.220 As opposed to people that are single or fucking around, even though some society can't judge

01:13:18.460 them for that, they're actually happy and free because they do what makes them feel good.

01:13:24.920 Andrew, I think I know you had something.

01:13:26.360 I do want to just really quickly, before I have you come in, go around the table on this.

01:13:30.200 So it sounded like you, and I don't want to misquote you, you don't think monogamy,

01:13:38.600 what are your thoughts on monogamy?

01:13:40.100 It's not for everyone.

01:13:41.240 I just think everyone has their own personal thing.

01:13:44.520 I think we have this thing that women are naturally monogamous, men are...

01:13:48.460 They're naturally not as monogamous.

01:13:50.680 Women just get super attached.

01:13:52.020 I don't think it's as...

01:13:53.820 I think we've made it super general.

01:13:55.580 I don't think everyone's monogamous.

01:13:57.500 I don't think everyone's poly.

01:13:58.900 I don't think everyone's...

01:13:59.820 Like, people just like what they like.

01:14:02.400 Some people...

01:14:03.280 Sure, but...

01:14:04.360 So you're saying...

01:14:05.080 Are you saying women aren't naturally monogamous?

01:14:09.480 That's what you wrote here in your pre-show notes?

01:14:11.540 I did write that.

01:14:11.960 So I think maybe to clarify, I just don't think that...

01:14:15.340 Well, don't walk it back.

01:14:16.320 Don't walk it back.

01:14:16.840 I'm walking back, but you're asking me to declare...

01:14:18.460 You're asking me what I...

01:14:19.460 I'm telling you what I meant.

01:14:20.960 Yeah.

01:14:21.320 Because I was in a DM, so I couldn't...

01:14:23.600 Go ahead.

01:14:23.860 No, go ahead.

01:14:24.400 Go ahead.

01:14:24.680 You're fine.

01:14:25.500 I don't think that every single woman, just because you have a vagina, are you monogamous

01:14:30.260 and do you get emotionally attached to everyone you have sex with?

01:14:33.240 I just think that's a little bit of like a generalization that has been made about girls.

01:14:37.960 Is that they, you know, they, every time you have sex with a guy, you're in love with them,

01:14:42.640 you fall in love, but guys can just fuck, sorry, have sex with anyone and they don't

01:14:46.920 get super attached.

01:14:47.720 Like, I know guys that get attached super quick.

01:14:50.480 I know girls that get attached super quick.

01:14:51.780 I know girls that have sex with a bunch of people and don't care about any of them and

01:14:56.180 vice versa.

01:14:56.880 So that's what I'm saying.

01:14:58.260 Like I said from the beginning, which you could quote, is that monogamy, poly, it depends

01:15:03.840 what, what you're into.

01:15:05.900 Sure.

01:15:06.100 So perhaps just a yes or no on this.

01:15:08.100 Um, you said women aren't naturally monogamous.

01:15:12.540 Is that, that's your position?

01:15:13.940 No, I just said my position.

01:15:15.560 I don't, I, again, that was like a very concise DM.

01:15:18.660 So I know there were other sentences before and after, but I just, because you, what I'm

01:15:23.840 saying is just because, cause you can't answer it.

01:15:25.920 Yes or no.

01:15:26.300 Is that just because you have a vagina doesn't mean that you're more super inclined to being

01:15:31.340 monogamous.

01:15:32.060 That's all I meant.

01:15:32.560 Would you, uh, would you never be monogamous?

01:15:36.260 No, I, I've been monogamous before.

01:15:38.720 Oh.

01:15:39.820 I'm not like, like I didn't, it's, I think what, like just because I know you so well,

01:15:44.400 I think what you might be trying to say and tell me if I'm wrong is historically humans

01:15:50.600 weren't monogamous and then monogamy became like a thing like over time ingrained in the

01:15:56.140 culture.

01:15:56.580 And so just like in general, not every woman is going to have the urge to be monogamous

01:16:02.800 or some women don't want to be monogamous, but feel the pressure from where they grew

01:16:07.940 up, what religion they're in, that sort of thing.

01:16:10.720 So I think it's just, I think you could say that for men and women, it's like monogamy

01:16:16.440 isn't for everybody.

01:16:17.780 That's all.

01:16:18.940 Okay.

01:16:19.900 Uh, going around the table or wait, I don't know if I went, um, can I add one more thing?

01:16:25.460 Sure.

01:16:25.680 I think what we lack is the freedom of choice.

01:16:28.740 Too much of what people do is based on what others want us to do.

01:16:34.200 That's it.

01:16:34.860 I don't even know what that means.

01:16:36.340 I, so like an example with marriage, you know, there is so much pressure, especially

01:16:42.440 for women to get married and have children by certain age.

01:16:45.960 Yeah.

01:16:46.120 That's because if they don't do that, they can't have children.

01:16:49.320 I mean, that's debatable.

01:16:50.920 No, it's not debatable.

01:16:51.860 No, it's not.

01:16:53.720 No, listen, the amount of damage that you do that drastically can happen to you and the

01:16:59.140 child just over the age of 24, drastically increases every single year, every single

01:17:04.220 year that you hold out.

01:17:05.440 By the time you're 40, if you're trying to have kids, how many kids do you think you're

01:17:08.000 going to have versus a 25 year old?

01:17:09.360 Men's sperm count drops too, as they get older, just so you know, it's for both of us.

01:17:12.780 Generally speaking, yes, but a lot of it depends on your lifestyle because we all age differently.

01:17:18.460 I mean, no, what, what, wait a second.

01:17:20.500 Yes, I mean, that, that's true.

01:17:23.260 I guess that we all have different effects when it comes to age.

01:17:26.360 I would agree to that, but we don't all age differently, right?

01:17:29.960 So we all age at exactly the same rate as everybody else.

01:17:32.920 I disagree.

01:17:34.100 Really?

01:17:34.580 So if I'm one year old and you're one year old, how old are both of us?

01:17:38.780 Depends how you perceive time.

01:17:40.560 It depends on how you perceive time.

01:17:42.400 Don't you think?

01:17:43.100 Well, I think, I think perhaps she's saying like, if you take good care of your health,

01:17:46.580 there's some long.

01:17:48.040 Yes, the effects.

01:17:49.360 So sure, you can have the effects, but we age the same at the same rate.

01:17:52.660 But don't you think there's other things that can age you faster?

01:17:55.300 Like trauma, drugs, losses.

01:17:58.220 Well, wait, hold on.

01:17:59.220 Those are effects.

01:17:59.960 Five hundred and thirty-eight donated one hundred and ninety-nine dollars.

01:18:04.780 When was monogamy or mating for life something we mammals did not do?

01:18:09.180 Lots of birds, reptiles, and amphibians do it.

01:18:13.400 Show me a successful polygamous society with matriarch or king with harems.

01:18:18.400 Good point.

01:18:19.080 Very good point.

01:18:20.160 Bone man, five, three, eight.

01:18:22.220 Yeah, I wasn't, I definitely was saying like, we don't like have an instinct to want to procreate

01:18:26.960 and like be with other people, but like, you know, you don't see like a lot of species

01:18:33.320 just like clinging on to one other species.

01:18:36.340 But yeah, some do.

01:18:37.540 Some like, you know, like they say lobsters, they mate for life when they meet their mate.

01:18:41.540 They're like, whatever.

01:18:42.320 And then there's other like species that like, they just be fucking everybody.

01:18:46.800 Girls don't, gorillas have like this one king and then they have multiple.

01:18:49.780 So when you take, when you take human behavior, right, we're not going to, we're not going

01:18:53.620 to compare ourselves to lions, right?

01:18:56.020 But we still have primal instincts.

01:18:57.500 We're animals.

01:18:58.020 Yeah, okay.

01:18:58.920 But we also have higher faculties.

01:19:01.020 So we can know how to do things which are good for us, even regardless of what our own

01:19:05.320 carnal natures are.

01:19:06.560 So for instance, it might feel good to do a thing which ends up hurting you in the long

01:19:11.260 run.

01:19:11.500 So you don't do that thing even though it feels good.

01:19:13.240 Like for instance, eating tons of chocolate in a single sitting might feel good, probably not

01:19:17.760 very good for you, so lots of people would avoid doing it, right?

01:19:20.600 Otherwise we still, otherwise we end up with like pure hedonism.

01:19:24.660 So the reason monogamy is so good for the world is because it used to be that only a small

01:19:28.960 subsect of men were able to procreate ever because women are the gatekeepers of sex.

01:19:33.480 So what happened is all the high status men would get the mass majority of women.

01:19:38.880 That's what would happen.

01:19:40.080 What happened when monogamy is really introduced, especially through Christian ethics, what ended

01:19:44.740 up happening is now everybody has a mate.

01:19:46.620 You see societal violence go way down.

01:19:48.460 You see people are able to genetically replicate themselves.

01:19:51.800 And so the biggest value to a species moving forward is replication, right?

01:19:56.540 You have to be able to replicate yourself.

01:19:58.540 I'm going to agree with that.

01:19:59.960 I just don't think that just because we do it doesn't mean everyone wants to do it.

01:20:05.480 Yeah, well...

01:20:06.520 Not saying it isn't good for society.

01:20:08.500 I think all your points were valid.

01:20:10.720 Yeah, but that's just kind of tribly true, right?

01:20:12.440 So you say that about everything.

01:20:13.660 Like not everybody wants to do everything.

01:20:15.140 That's true, but we're kind of talking in a general broad view.

01:20:18.680 It was a mass society.

01:20:19.760 Yes.

01:20:20.600 Just one sec, guys.

01:20:22.060 Yo, thank you, man.

01:20:22.800 Appreciate it.

01:20:23.440 My male hormones naturally overcame me and I made a disgusting comment toward Mira as

01:20:28.820 she is wearing the least clothing.

01:20:30.820 Nip-spoking enjoys turning down losers like me.

01:20:34.600 What is this?

01:20:36.620 He didn't make a comment about your abs.

01:20:39.320 What does he want me to cover?

01:20:42.160 My face?

01:20:43.040 No, don't worry about it.

01:20:44.140 What else do I need to cover?

01:20:48.000 Nick, do we have any paper bags back there?

01:20:50.980 I didn't get the memo.

01:20:52.200 You're fine.

01:20:53.440 Just like cut off eyeballs.

01:20:56.160 Go ahead.

01:20:57.860 Did you want to continue on with the...

01:20:59.860 Yeah, yeah.

01:21:00.340 So I'm just...

01:21:01.100 What I'm saying is that monogamy, if you want to know why I'm so anti-degeneracy, why I'm

01:21:07.340 so anti-promiscuity, things like that.

01:21:10.280 If you look at all the Western nations where all the promiscuity is allowed everywhere at

01:21:14.320 all times.

01:21:14.740 Like she says, I feel like we don't have a choice.

01:21:17.060 To do what?

01:21:18.040 There's nobody stopping you literally from doing anything.

01:21:20.380 Any form of degeneracy you could ever think of right now, you can basically do, and you

01:21:24.780 have a right to do it at all times, whenever you feel like it, everywhere inside of the

01:21:29.500 United States.

01:21:30.120 I can't think of a single one, a single thing that you would be like, I just have to go and

01:21:35.340 do this horrible degenerate thing.

01:21:37.740 What is it that you couldn't go do right now?

01:21:40.440 What choice are you being limited?

01:21:42.720 I'm not limited.

01:21:43.960 I think I'm more so talking about other people feeling the psychological pressure of society.

01:21:51.100 Like women get judged, men get judged too, actually.

01:21:54.220 Just there's so much judgment.

01:21:56.040 And I think that's unnecessary.

01:21:57.100 Yeah, what's wrong with judgment?

01:21:58.340 Judgment's good.

01:21:59.660 Because it stirs people away from doing what they want to do.

01:22:04.360 Yeah, but...

01:22:04.980 As long as they're not hurting other people.

01:22:05.920 But this is my problem, right?

01:22:07.000 This is why you spend...

01:22:07.440 Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

01:22:10.020 So this is a problem with Twitch politics.

01:22:12.220 You got Twitch brain, okay?

01:22:13.400 So what's happened because of your Twitch brain is you hear all the hedonists on Twitch

01:22:17.400 say, do what makes you feel good, man.

01:22:19.120 The good is the good.

01:22:20.200 Do the good.

01:22:21.080 Whatever makes you feel good.

01:22:23.520 No.

01:22:23.760 Have you ever watched my Twitch channel?

01:22:24.620 What about your duty and obligations?

01:22:26.400 Do you have any of those?

01:22:27.920 Do you just have a set of sequence of entitlements that you call rights with zero duties and zero

01:22:32.120 rights?

01:22:32.760 Actually, Twitch chat also puts pressure on me.

01:22:35.520 I think this is mentality that I came on my own, which was really hard because there's,

01:22:39.460 like I said, so much pressure from everyone.

01:22:41.300 But answer to my question.

01:22:42.300 So my question is, do you just have a sequence of entitlements or do you have any duties and

01:22:47.300 obligations to anybody for anything ever?

01:22:50.360 Your question is very vague.

01:22:51.660 Can you prioritize it to be more specific?

01:22:53.000 I don't know how it could possibly be more precise.

01:22:55.820 Do you know what a duty is?

01:22:57.280 Could you define that for me?

01:22:58.080 No.

01:22:58.300 I'm just asking if you know what one is before I define it.

01:23:00.620 Before we become too overly pedantic, I just want to make sure that you are going to tell

01:23:06.540 me that you don't know what that word means first before I define it.

01:23:09.880 Not that you're making me do it because you want to be overly pedantic.

01:23:13.940 English is my second language.

01:23:15.280 Yeah.

01:23:15.520 That doesn't mean that you don't understand what I'm saying.

01:23:18.240 I don't know how this relates.

01:23:19.360 She was talking about freedom of choice and you said, well, you're legally allowed to do

01:23:22.480 whatever you want.

01:23:22.980 And then she was talking about socialization and being inculcated to have certain habits.

01:23:26.180 And you said, what's wrong with shame?

01:23:27.720 It's fine to be shamed, but she's saying that people, women aren't avoiding promiscuity

01:23:31.180 because of the adverse effects that you think are inherent to promiscuity.

01:23:33.760 It's because they don't want to be called a 304 or a slut.

01:23:35.820 If you think there's negative-

01:23:36.480 That's not what she said.

01:23:37.400 That is what she's implying.

01:23:38.300 She's saying if there's actually negative side effects of having a lot of sex, those

01:23:41.720 will manifest in themselves.

01:23:42.940 It doesn't have to take the form of guys calling her a slut.

01:23:44.920 That's the sort of absence of freedom of choice.

01:23:46.960 That is what she was saying.

01:23:47.860 No, we were talking about monogamy.

01:23:48.760 She said about girls being slutgy.

01:23:50.060 No, we were talking about monogamy and the expectation to have-

01:23:53.080 She's saying society, she feels like it's not fair that society is

01:23:57.200 casting stigma on social behaviors.

01:23:59.140 That's what she's actually saying.

01:24:00.620 She's saying it's mutually exclusive, like freedom of choice.

01:24:03.080 And you understood freedom of choice to mean legal rights.

01:24:05.600 And she was saying, no, judgment and socialization and stigma.

01:24:08.240 That's what I'm talking about is stigma.

01:24:10.060 Literally talking about stigma right this second.

01:24:12.020 That's why I'm asking, do you feel like you only have a sequence of entitlements which

01:24:15.800 are given, or do you feel like you have any duties and obligations external to those?

01:24:20.480 A duty, an obligation.

01:24:22.460 To who?

01:24:23.060 To what?

01:24:23.460 Like a child, or a dog, or a job, or a friend.

01:24:25.180 Like if you're a parent, do you have a duty to feed your child if you're a parent?

01:24:28.540 I'm not a parent.

01:24:29.520 You want me to imagine what it's like?

01:24:31.240 How would you feel if you ate breakfast this morning?

01:24:34.520 How would I feel if I ate breakfast?

01:24:36.080 Yeah.

01:24:37.300 Full?

01:24:37.920 Yeah.

01:24:38.220 How would you feel bad if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

01:24:41.880 I would require more minerals.

01:24:43.660 That is correct.

01:24:44.260 Okay, great.

01:24:44.860 So we know that you can do hypotheticals.

01:24:46.640 So let's not be pedantic then.

01:24:48.520 I still don't know what pedantic is.

01:24:49.900 Yeah, you don't know what it is.

01:24:50.760 You don't know what pedantry is because English is your second language.

01:24:53.320 Are you sure?

01:24:53.620 That is correct.

01:24:54.100 Okay.

01:24:54.600 Well, let's move into it anyway.

01:24:55.840 I'm just going to ask, and I'll use really small words.

01:24:58.460 Do you have a duty?

01:24:59.520 And if you don't know what the word duty means, when I say it in the context of feeding a child,

01:25:03.120 I'll tell you.

01:25:04.380 Are you asking me to answer if I had a child, would I feed the child?

01:25:08.820 And that's your definition of duty?

01:25:09.940 Now, do you have a duty to feed the child?

01:25:10.960 Some obligation.

01:25:12.060 I would feed my child.

01:25:13.260 Do you have an obligation to feed your child?

01:25:14.760 I feel like this is a lot of semantics.

01:25:19.980 Legally, yes, you do have an obligation to feed your child.

01:25:22.040 You know, when you make an argument, semantics are super important.

01:25:23.640 So I'm just wondering, do you have an obligation to feed your child?

01:25:26.860 I would feed my child.

01:25:27.960 Do you have an obligation to do that, though?

01:25:32.660 Yes, legally, you have an obligation.

01:25:34.160 You don't understand that when I ask you one question, and then you answer it to a question

01:25:40.560 that he didn't ask you, that you don't understand why I keep repeating the question.

01:25:44.240 If I say, would you feed your child, and you say, yes, I'd feed my child, then that's an

01:25:48.880 answer to that question.

01:25:49.900 If I ask you if you have an obligation to feed your child, and you say, I would feed my child,

01:25:53.380 that's not answering if you think you have an obligation to do so.

01:25:57.500 I will feed my child, and that is the last thing I'm going to say.

01:26:00.380 No, but do you have a duty?

01:26:01.860 You would feed your child because you feel obliged.

01:26:03.320 But do you have an obligation?

01:26:05.220 Like, because you have to, basically.

01:26:07.400 You have to feed your kid.

01:26:08.500 If my child is hungry, I will feed him.

01:26:10.120 No, but do you have an obligation to feed your child?

01:26:14.300 Like, let's put it this way.

01:26:15.720 Like, some guy wants to fly you out to France for $2 million, or your baby needs to eat,

01:26:23.920 and you're like, well, the baby, I don't have to feed the baby.

01:26:29.420 It'll live, but I can go on this France trip.

01:26:33.000 Like, you know, some people would be like, you know what?

01:26:35.840 Fuck the baby.

01:26:36.540 I'll hire a sitter to feed them.

01:26:38.520 That's not my obligation right now.

01:26:39.880 My obligation is like going to France and get this money.

01:26:42.680 You know what I mean?

01:26:43.300 So he's kind of saying like...

01:26:44.040 Bone Lab 538.

01:26:45.180 Just one second.

01:26:45.960 Just one second.

01:26:47.060 Just one second.

01:26:48.480 Her very body embraces the duty to the child via the mammary glands.

01:26:53.000 That's true.

01:26:53.720 Okay, Bone Lab.

01:26:54.140 I think you should specify, do you mean like a legal duty or a moral duty?

01:26:56.600 I just said obligation first.

01:26:58.720 Yeah, do you mean legally or morally?

01:26:59.960 Well, that would be...

01:27:00.660 Or biologically.

01:27:01.200 First, I would need to figure out whether or not she even feels like she has any obligation

01:27:05.120 or doesn't actually know what the word obligation means.

01:27:07.880 If you don't actually know what the word...

01:27:09.200 But obligation is subjective.

01:27:09.380 There's legal obligations.

01:27:09.600 I want to ask you something else.

01:27:11.120 If he pulls up the definition of obligation and reads it to you, will he answer the question

01:27:15.140 then, or are you just going to still answer it the same way?

01:27:17.040 I will try my best.

01:27:18.680 Okay.

01:27:19.080 Do you want me to...

01:27:19.720 I can Google obligation, right?

01:27:22.860 If that's what you want to do, Brian.

01:27:24.320 An act or course of action to which a person is morally or legally bound.

01:27:28.660 A duty or commitment?

01:27:30.780 A duty.

01:27:31.380 And legal.

01:27:32.000 So both.

01:27:32.620 Specify legal or moral.

01:27:34.080 Specify for her which one.

01:27:35.280 Moral.

01:27:35.760 I think this is a very easy question.

01:27:37.700 No, it's not.

01:27:38.620 If you would ask me, are you obligated to be nice to the person next to you, I could say

01:27:41.080 not necessarily.

01:27:41.580 Okay, are you morally...

01:27:42.700 Should you morally feed your child?

01:27:44.500 Yes.

01:27:44.880 Okay, good.

01:27:45.440 So now back over to you.

01:27:46.740 Do you have an obligation to feed your child?

01:27:48.400 I will make sure that my child is welfare.

01:27:50.320 Are you morally obliged to do so?

01:27:51.960 Answer the question, Myra.

01:27:53.400 Yeah, did I get it right?

01:27:55.520 Myra?

01:27:56.040 Myra.

01:27:56.540 Sorry, so I'm not doing it.

01:27:57.540 I swear I'm not doing it intentionally.

01:27:59.060 I'm like that brain dead.

01:28:00.860 I will answer yes.

01:28:02.380 You have a obligation to do so.

01:28:05.420 Yeah, but it's not in front of other people.

01:28:07.520 It's because I care for the child.

01:28:09.520 Okay, but there is a duty there.

01:28:12.780 Okay.

01:28:13.360 Okay, so now we've established you know what duty means.

01:28:15.920 So do you have any of those in society?

01:28:18.260 Or no?

01:28:18.720 Will I feed anyone else in the society?

01:28:22.860 That's not what I'm asking.

01:28:23.560 I'm asking if you have any duties in society, now that you understand the context of what

01:28:26.840 duty means.

01:28:27.560 Or is it all just entitlement?

01:28:31.420 I feel like I can make certain difference in life that would be helpful to people, but

01:28:39.620 I don't have to.

01:28:40.460 Okay, so you don't have any duties or obligations to anybody else in society?

01:28:46.420 Just a sequence of entitlements?

01:28:48.820 I don't know what sequence of entitlement is.

01:28:50.820 So like, let's take a right.

01:28:52.460 Would you say a right's an entitlement?

01:28:55.200 Can you be more specific?

01:28:56.400 Can you give me like...

01:28:57.020 Yeah, like your right to free speech for a context.

01:28:59.560 That's an entitlement.

01:29:00.620 Would you say you're entitled to that?

01:29:08.040 No.

01:29:08.860 No, you're not entitled to it.

01:29:10.140 I don't think anyone entitled to anything.

01:29:12.720 Nobody's entitled to anything?

01:29:14.200 Yes.

01:29:14.680 Except your baby to get food?

01:29:17.000 Yeah, but even there, like it's all very subjective.

01:29:20.620 Like I would take care of the baby and feed the baby because I care for the baby.

01:29:24.480 But would you give a stigma towards people who didn't?

01:29:27.660 No.

01:29:28.400 Why?

01:29:29.680 Because it's none of my business.

01:29:31.360 So if people weren't feeding their children and they were starving because they weren't feeding

01:29:36.140 them, you wouldn't want a societal stigma against that?

01:29:39.540 I'm not there to judge.

01:29:40.920 There are other people that can do that.

01:29:42.560 So do you think the world then is going to be a better place or a worse place because

01:29:46.020 you refuse to judge and allow us to societal stigma towards people who won't feed their

01:29:49.960 children?

01:29:52.820 This reminds me of my childhood.

01:29:54.520 I need to ask.

01:29:55.340 Do you all feel the same way?

01:29:56.440 Um, well, so a couple of things.

01:29:58.580 I feel like I'm asking.

01:29:59.540 I just want to finish this real quick.

01:30:01.480 Yes, I'm thinking.

01:30:02.500 Is the world going to be a worse, a better or a worse place by you refusing to allow a

01:30:08.280 stigma towards people who won't feed their own children?

01:30:10.660 So I think that the reason why this comparison doesn't work is because in the first case,

01:30:16.080 the life of a child that is not able, I'm assuming to feed himself or herself is a danger.

01:30:21.380 And the second one, you're judging someone else's personal slash sexual life.

01:30:26.180 Well, I don't understand.

01:30:27.180 Why wouldn't that work?

01:30:28.140 We're talking about a stigma towards a behavior that we don't like to see the benefits in society

01:30:31.840 due to the stigma.

01:30:32.520 Because like I said, the first one, someone's life depends on it.

01:30:35.880 Somebody that technically is not capable of feeding themselves.

01:30:40.740 And the second case, it's not affecting anyone's health.

01:30:43.880 I have a great example.

01:30:45.480 I'd love to ask her that maybe it could put it more specifically, like as an example and

01:30:49.480 not so much as a statement.

01:30:51.260 So here we go.

01:30:52.780 When I was a kid, my dad used to like beat the living fucking shit out of me for like 15

01:30:56.480 years.

01:30:57.400 And one day, and I sang my entire life growing up.

01:31:00.680 One day I was singing, singing, singing.

01:31:02.460 My name, I come outside.

01:31:03.520 My neighbor's like, oh my God, you have such a lovely voice.

01:31:06.200 Like you're such a good singer.

01:31:08.020 Like never stop singing.

01:31:09.320 And I feel really good, feel really great.

01:31:11.140 And then 10 seconds later, I realized, wait, if she can hear me singing, she can definitely

01:31:16.160 hear when I'm like screaming bloody murder for help and no one's helping.

01:31:21.200 And so I think in this, what his question could go towards this.

01:31:24.300 If you were my neighbor, would have you felt obligated to call the police and CVS or would

01:31:29.760 you have said that's none of my business?

01:31:31.900 I'm not going to get into that.

01:31:33.400 Actually, that's really, that's a good framing.

01:31:35.240 Yes, that is.

01:31:36.000 Thank you for clarifying it.

01:31:37.520 So I think I should have mentioned, maybe I did, but briefly, is that as long as nobody

01:31:43.060 getting hurt, if no one's health or life is in danger, do what you please.

01:31:48.480 Do not let others influence your life.

01:31:50.660 Well, he's going to say promiscuity hurts people, but that example doesn't pan out to

01:31:54.560 her because she's talking about personal choice in terms of desire, not action.

01:31:58.640 So even if you don't want to feed the baby and you feel obligated to, you're still going

01:32:02.420 to feed the baby.

01:32:03.200 She's talking about personal desire to have sex being suppressed by stigma, not actually

01:32:07.100 whether you act on it.

01:32:08.180 Or again, wasn't that the point of the analogy?

01:32:10.400 Weren't we talking about promiscuity?

01:32:11.800 We started off talking about with monogamy with her, then she came in, then she started

01:32:16.420 talking about there's a pressure on women to have children and to get married.

01:32:20.140 That's not really related to promiscuity necessarily.

01:32:22.740 Right, what we're talking instead is about societal duties.

01:32:25.600 So the question becomes, if we're looking at the United States, we're looking at Western

01:32:29.440 nations, which are underneath the threshold for replacing their own people inside of those

01:32:33.580 nations, way underneath, not even replacing themselves, period.

01:32:37.440 Is there any duty for us to do that?

01:32:40.380 And you would say, there's no duty to do that, right?

01:32:42.660 There's no duty.

01:32:44.260 So why wouldn't we, for instance, if I was the president of the United States tomorrow,

01:32:49.260 why wouldn't I want to have some type of push towards women to see them kind of view this

01:32:55.300 as a duty to do, a duty to try to get married younger, to try to have families younger so

01:33:00.920 that I could bring that birth rate up, for instance, so that I could replace the society

01:33:05.000 which I currently have.

01:33:06.200 You don't think that that's a good idea?

01:33:09.380 You trying to replace the society?

01:33:11.740 That sounds like some Hitler shit.

01:33:14.360 That's crazy.

01:33:15.240 Well, I think right now we're seeing a lot of...

01:33:16.780 What?

01:33:17.400 There's people that...

01:33:18.700 There's a couple things going on.

01:33:20.600 There's...

01:33:21.200 Hold on.

01:33:22.500 Boneman 538 donated $199.

01:33:27.660 Natural law is upheld when no harm is done to persons, property, the public peace, and

01:33:33.420 or the public trust.

01:33:34.920 The entitlement of benefit comes with the responsibility or the sense of duty to the group.

01:33:40.880 Thank you.

01:33:41.460 Thank you, Boneman 538.

01:33:43.460 Thank you.

01:33:43.940 Did you have something, Andrew?

01:33:45.680 Yeah, so...

01:33:46.640 I think she accused you of being Hitler.

01:33:47.880 Yeah, so...

01:33:48.880 If my...

01:33:49.880 If my goal...

01:33:51.100 Oh, sorry.

01:33:52.180 Hold on one second.

01:33:52.780 Mobis Ticima donated $200.

01:33:55.440 Lamao, I was simping for a girl with a monkey playing cymbals in her brain.

01:34:00.700 WTF came over me.

01:34:02.700 Christ is Lord Andrew W.

01:34:04.620 Chicks need a civics class.

01:34:06.540 Number three based.

01:34:08.280 Promiscuity does hurt people.

01:34:10.300 What is based?

01:34:11.160 I'm sorry.

01:34:11.680 Just means awesome, epic, cool, sweet.

01:34:13.840 How does promiscuity hurt people?

01:34:16.020 Well, hang on.

01:34:16.560 Back to the...

01:34:17.380 Before we get into that.

01:34:18.220 Yeah, we'll get into that.

01:34:19.140 If I say, I want the population, which we currently have, to continue to replace itself

01:34:25.460 inside of the United States, how's that like Hitler again?

01:34:30.640 I don't think she understands what you're saying.

01:34:32.180 She misunderstood what you meant.

01:34:33.380 He meant like replenishing the birth rate so that we're not decreasing the population

01:34:36.880 over time.

01:34:38.880 Good luck.

01:34:40.120 Yeah, yeah.

01:34:40.480 How's that like Hitler, though?

01:34:41.780 Because she misunderstood.

01:34:42.560 Yeah, I know.

01:34:43.180 She can talk.

01:34:43.840 So how's that like Hitler again?

01:34:45.160 Because I misunderstood.

01:34:46.440 Oh, okay.

01:34:46.900 So you're going to say that I'm not like Hitler then, and that's like the opposite of a Hitler.

01:34:51.960 It sounded too extreme to me.

01:34:53.840 To want to replace the domestic population of your nation, that sounds extreme?

01:34:59.320 Yes.

01:35:00.020 Why is that extreme?

01:35:01.560 Wait, did you want to come in?

01:35:03.220 No, I was just going to say, I feel like the word replace makes it sound strong.

01:35:07.160 It makes it sound like you're like, maybe that's where the disconnect is.

01:35:10.920 Well, I think you're saying replace because we will all be gone one day.

01:35:14.460 I know what he's saying.

01:35:16.380 I was just saying.

01:35:17.080 No, I'm saying for her sake.

01:35:18.340 Snake sheds his skin.

01:35:20.940 Okay.

01:35:22.100 Replace.

01:35:22.580 I think maybe it just sounded like you're saying that.

01:35:23.760 Andrew, are you a national socialist is I think what she's asking.

01:35:27.780 No.

01:35:28.080 Oh, okay.

01:35:29.120 Nein, nein, nein, nein, nein, nein, nein, nein.

01:35:35.140 I mean, yeah, but that's what you're doing.

01:35:37.380 If you have a child, you're replacing yourself, right?

01:35:41.020 You're passing your genes on.

01:35:42.680 You're replacing yourself.

01:35:43.840 That's the point of it.

01:35:45.060 Well, let it be natural.

01:35:46.000 You're replicating your genes.

01:35:46.820 You're replicating your genes.

01:35:48.000 Yeah, let it be natural.

01:35:49.100 Why are you trying to raise?

01:35:51.400 Because if you hit under X amount of threshold and your population diminishes too much,

01:35:55.420 your people go bye-bye.

01:35:57.760 But why does it have to be on expense?

01:36:00.520 Who cares?

01:36:01.480 I don't understand our human obsession with thinking we're going to be here forever.

01:36:07.660 Species die all the time.

01:36:09.460 If this planet blows up, we would be gone.

01:36:12.580 If an asteroid...

01:36:13.960 Am I caring?

01:36:14.500 No, keep going.

01:36:15.520 You're cooking.

01:36:16.220 No, you're cooking.

01:36:17.420 You're cooking.

01:36:17.900 Keep going.

01:36:18.340 We have this weird obsession with thinking that we're going to be here forever.

01:36:22.240 I'm all for not littering, preserving the Earth, but we think we're just so above every other

01:36:28.900 species that we're just supposed to be here forever.

01:36:31.320 And we just got...

01:36:32.200 Like, bro, eventually everything comes to an end.

01:36:36.000 Just like, I'm going to die, we're all going to die.

01:36:37.180 Are you talking about the heat death of the universe in like trillions of years?

01:36:40.540 Is that...

01:36:40.880 No, I'm just talking about in general, like how the dinosaurs were wiped out by a huge

01:36:46.240 But let's assume for a second...

01:36:47.980 I'm just saying, we have a general obsession with like thinking that we're entitled to

01:36:52.920 be here forever.

01:36:53.920 But I got to know, I got to know this.

01:36:57.180 Assume that you could see that the outcome, based on policies that you had, would lead

01:37:02.680 to that way faster.

01:37:04.200 Would you want to avoid that as the outcome?

01:37:07.080 I'm sorry, what do you mean the outcome?

01:37:09.000 So like, just assume that the outcome is, if you do XXXXX, it leads to the human race

01:37:15.400 becoming extinct.

01:37:17.160 Okay?

01:37:18.500 If you could then not do those things, and that avoids that outcome, don't you think

01:37:23.280 we should do that?

01:37:24.440 One day we are going to be extinct.

01:37:27.540 One day we're going to be extinct.

01:37:28.940 Yeah, I get it.

01:37:29.840 That's the cycle, right?

01:37:30.520 So first of all, no, I don't even concede that that's true.

01:37:33.300 But even if I did, even if I were to just say, you're right, one day human beings are

01:37:38.440 just all going to be gone.

01:37:40.520 If you could avoid that, if you had a way to avoid that, would you?

01:37:45.060 I don't think I...

01:37:45.720 What's the benefit of not avoiding it?

01:37:48.260 Yeah, like who cares if we're all...

01:37:49.840 If we're all gone at this table, what would it matter to me?

01:37:51.440 Well, I mean, don't you?

01:37:51.800 You do like to exist, right?

01:37:54.220 Okay.

01:37:54.640 Honestly, no.

01:37:56.820 Wait, I feel like you're looking at it.

01:37:58.260 Like, I wanted to die most of my life.

01:38:00.120 My last suicide attempt was in 2020.

01:38:02.020 Let's not get into that.

01:38:03.800 I think you're looking at it in two dichotomous of a way.

01:38:05.900 Like, I could argue that the proclivities of different sexual orientations and half of

01:38:09.480 girls not wanting to get married, some wanting to get married, some wanting to have kids can

01:38:12.100 actually cancel out the chance of overpopulation.

01:38:15.660 So I think you're looking at too much.

01:38:16.940 If we encourage promiscuity and lack of marriage, our population is going to die up, but we could

01:38:20.520 be mitigating overpopulation.

01:38:21.160 Yeah, so let's grant all of this.

01:38:22.880 How does any of that answer to my question, which I asked her, which is to say this, and I'll

01:38:27.040 say it to you too.

01:38:27.640 If you could change the outcome and save the human species in this scenario by simply changing

01:38:36.920 around policies or improving policies or improving the way that human beings act, wouldn't you

01:38:41.480 try to do that?

01:38:44.400 Policies as in maybe legally obligating people to perform in a different way for like the

01:38:49.780 outcome of human civilization?

01:38:52.320 Not necessarily.

01:38:54.380 Like, what would be an example of you not doing that?

01:38:56.500 So let's say you have a civilization of five people, and I don't think it'd be ethical

01:38:59.800 necessarily to force those women to get pregnant if they don't want to by forcing the men to

01:39:03.720 essay those women in order to keep your population going, right?

01:39:06.380 Is that a fair example?

01:39:07.660 Okay, so let's assume then that you would only have to do that for whatever reason inside

01:39:13.200 this hypothetical for a little while.

01:39:14.740 Yeah, I'm not a utilitarian in that way.

01:39:16.160 So I would, across the board, say that that's wrong.

01:39:18.280 Even if it prolongs the human species, I don't think women should be forced to give children

01:39:22.240 Even if it would only be for a short amount of time.

01:39:24.420 100%.

01:39:24.820 Right.

01:39:25.360 So then the human species goes extinct.

01:39:28.160 Yes.

01:39:29.100 And so under that, is there any other parameters that you would look at for this?

01:39:32.880 It's a very hypothetical scenario.

01:39:35.320 Yeah.

01:39:35.580 I mean, it is.

01:39:36.520 But that was part of the point.

01:39:37.500 It's all designed to test the logic and at least the logic's consistent.

01:39:40.720 So what I'm trying to figure out is which policies and obligations and duties would you

01:39:46.540 be willing to switch around in order to make sure that the human species didn't go extinct?

01:39:51.900 So like, let me give you a counter example of one.

01:39:54.320 So I'll concede on the essay one and just say, okay, fine, for the sake of argument, we'll

01:39:58.640 let this one go.

01:39:59.640 Not for the sake of argument.

01:40:00.800 What would you actually say?

01:40:01.720 Right.

01:40:01.920 Well, I would say that you have a greater obligation.

01:40:05.440 To essay the women.

01:40:07.120 If it meant.

01:40:07.600 I said essay.

01:40:08.220 I saved myself.

01:40:08.720 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:09.260 He said if it meant.

01:40:10.600 If the opposition would mean global extinction, right, then I think that almost all people

01:40:17.740 who were either deontologists or utilitarians or any form of ethics would probably say, look,

01:40:25.880 that's not the outcome we want, right?

01:40:27.980 It's like a, it's almost a horrible verbal bullet to bite, but not really because the

01:40:32.260 alternative is you're like extinction.

01:40:33.840 And I think that that's a worse bullet to bite.

01:40:36.540 Why?

01:40:37.000 Ultimately.

01:40:37.800 Well, because then you have.

01:40:39.280 I think the religion is maybe a point of tension.

01:40:40.800 Yeah.

01:40:40.900 Because then you have no way to produce any of the values that you're talking about producing

01:40:45.220 to begin with.

01:40:45.920 So it doesn't matter what your ethical system is.

01:40:47.360 There's nobody around to have an ethical system.

01:40:49.960 Well, I think.

01:40:51.020 Okay.

01:40:51.360 Sorry.

01:40:51.720 So, I mean, ultimately the result of, I think most people would rather exist than not exist.

01:40:57.880 Even if to exist meant that the life would be slightly worse or worse, I still think

01:41:03.940 that they would prefer to do so.

01:41:05.300 And if they didn't, if those three women on this island said, I would rather the meteor

01:41:08.820 hit us or I'd rather we die out than these men essay me.

01:41:10.920 The question isn't their preferences.

01:41:14.060 The question would be the preferences of everybody in front of that.

01:41:17.640 So if the human.

01:41:19.000 Yeah.

01:41:19.260 Yeah.

01:41:19.380 If the whole human race is going to die.

01:41:21.340 So.

01:41:21.420 So the women would be morally obligated to let the men essay them for their future descendants

01:41:25.060 to live on.

01:41:25.740 Well, how would they be essaying them if they, if they felt a moral obligation, they

01:41:29.560 would just let them.

01:41:30.180 Right.

01:41:31.120 So that wouldn't be essay at that point.

01:41:33.200 Okay.

01:41:33.400 I'm only trying to respond.

01:41:34.420 The men feel it.

01:41:35.160 I'm only trying to respond to the specifics of your hypothetical.

01:41:38.100 Yeah.

01:41:38.320 And engage with the specifics of it.

01:41:40.220 But the consequence for both are bad.

01:41:42.720 We would just say the consequence of both are not consequences we want to see.

01:41:45.860 And I think mine is kind of, yeah.

01:41:46.940 But what if, so let me ask you a different one.

01:41:49.180 What if you had to just restrict LGBTQ people from being LGBTQ and then that would save the,

01:41:58.620 the species?

01:42:00.120 Would you do it then?

01:42:01.200 Nope.

01:42:01.680 Nope.

01:42:01.980 You still wouldn't do it?

01:42:02.920 No.

01:42:03.280 Right.

01:42:03.640 So then.

01:42:03.900 But we have totally different end goals for you.

01:42:05.600 Okay.

01:42:05.660 So wait a second.

01:42:06.380 Wait a second.

01:42:06.900 Hang on.

01:42:07.360 Hang on.

01:42:07.820 Let me finish.

01:42:08.340 Sustaining the pop.

01:42:08.920 I'm almost done.

01:42:09.760 Like banning it, making it illegal.

01:42:11.160 Yeah.

01:42:11.380 I'm almost done.

01:42:12.040 I'm almost done.

01:42:12.460 Okay.

01:42:12.700 It was 10 years ago.

01:42:13.720 They'd still do it.

01:42:14.240 It wasn't criminalized.

01:42:15.540 Right.

01:42:15.760 So you would let the entirety of humanity go extinct to make sure that a form of vice

01:42:23.340 or degeneracy, or in this case, things you don't consider that to be, but just sexual

01:42:27.720 proclivities were allowed to be, you'd let the whole species go extinct rather than

01:42:32.820 restrict that.

01:42:33.920 Yes.

01:42:34.480 Why?

01:42:35.020 What is the basis for that?

01:42:36.260 Because I think a lot of natural proclivities align with what's good for people.

01:42:40.420 So I think.

01:42:41.320 Is it good for people, for the species to cease to exist?

01:42:45.340 Yeah.

01:42:45.620 What matters?

01:42:45.980 There's no people.

01:42:46.700 I think it's morally neutral.

01:42:47.900 Yeah.

01:42:48.500 It's morally neutral if nobody exists.

01:42:50.280 It's morally neutral for mankind too.

01:42:53.100 Yeah.

01:42:53.320 Because if no one exists, no one exists.

01:42:56.380 Like who?

01:42:56.540 Well, then why shouldn't everybody just.

01:42:57.820 So you're saying it's morally Brian.

01:42:59.880 Wait, wait, wait.

01:43:00.260 So it's morally wrong.

01:43:00.940 Hold on.

01:43:01.660 I've been asking myself that morally wrong.

01:43:04.660 Hold on.

01:43:05.100 Guys, guys.

01:43:05.600 Stop, stop, stop.

01:43:06.560 Go ahead, Andrew.

01:43:07.500 Go ahead.

01:43:08.360 The consequence of what you're saying is then why doesn't everybody just non-exist themselves?

01:43:13.300 Well, that, I mean, that's what I usually tell my friends.

01:43:15.420 I'm like, well, you either got to live or you're going to kill yourself.

01:43:18.040 Like, so pick your poison.

01:43:18.620 Well, don't.

01:43:18.920 You can't use that, but just say.

01:43:20.160 That's not the same example.

01:43:20.900 Non-existence.

01:43:22.240 Yes.

01:43:22.840 Well, just say non-existence.

01:43:24.020 Non-existence.

01:43:24.820 Okay.

01:43:25.100 But think about this.

01:43:26.340 You don't actually care about the consequence of that.

01:43:28.420 So if everybody did do that, you just don't care.

01:43:32.640 Yes.

01:43:33.240 Right.

01:43:34.580 I think the lack of.

01:43:35.600 And you think that, you think that that's a superior moral position.

01:43:39.020 I don't think either are superior.

01:43:40.640 I think some people, I think instinctually what you were saying, yes, most people have

01:43:46.000 the instinct to like want to live.

01:43:47.360 And I think it's funny because I literally asked someone the other day, like, oh, if you

01:43:50.480 were in a zombie attack, like, what would you do?

01:43:53.540 And they're like.

01:43:54.060 We'll get right into the zombies.

01:43:55.520 We'll get into zombies, then the aliens.

01:43:57.180 We're going to come to the aliens in a sec.

01:43:58.800 So three men and three women on an island to save the human race becomes a forced breeder

01:44:04.120 program.

01:44:04.760 BC equals no moral obligation to save or Maslow's hierarchy self-actualize as a mother.

01:44:11.280 What else is on island?

01:44:13.580 Huh?

01:44:14.020 Wait, what?

01:44:14.560 I'm not fully understanding.

01:44:15.780 Like, I don't think anyone got that bone, man.

01:44:18.240 He's saying the Maslow's hierarchy of needs, I think, right?

01:44:21.060 But how does that apply?

01:44:22.020 But what is this question?

01:44:22.740 Well, he's saying that within the hierarchy of needs, we need people.

01:44:26.920 So once we have that, then we'll have all the shelter and we'll have all the this, we'll

01:44:31.940 have all the that.

01:44:33.920 But we need people to get all of that.

01:44:35.820 I think that's what he's getting at.

01:44:37.640 I'm not making his argument.

01:44:38.860 I'm just saying I think that's what he's getting at.

01:44:40.400 Yes.

01:44:40.740 I think you're talking about zombies.

01:44:41.820 We can talk about zombies.

01:44:42.540 Basically, what I was saying was, I asked him, I was like, what would you do if we had

01:44:46.420 like had a zombie apocalypse?

01:44:49.260 Hypothetical, right?

01:44:50.180 In my mind, I'm thinking like, you know, go find shelter, go drive out.

01:44:54.820 I'm like thinking right in the way I'm going to survive.

01:44:57.680 And he goes, I would just unalive myself.

01:45:00.280 And I was like, what?

01:45:01.840 I didn't realize that was an option that you don't want to be tasked with like the.

01:45:06.740 Wait, we talked about this last show.

01:45:08.040 Yeah.

01:45:08.460 The zombie question.

01:45:09.200 Yeah, that was boring.

01:45:09.780 I think you said you'd unalive yourself too.

01:45:12.280 I think you said you'd.

01:45:13.080 But those are.

01:45:13.540 But so my point was, you're right.

01:45:16.180 Most people.

01:45:17.520 Wait, who?

01:45:17.860 Nick?

01:45:18.700 Uh, second girl, sorry.

01:45:19.720 Oh yeah.

01:45:20.160 Try not to slam the table.

01:45:21.340 Most people would have the instinct to like want to live.

01:45:25.600 Those are two different things.

01:45:26.780 Not unaliving yourself and not replenishing your race.

01:45:29.280 I don't know why we're conflating the two.

01:45:30.580 I'm talking about replenishing.

01:45:31.980 Oh, I didn't bring up the zombie.

01:45:32.800 Replenishing your race.

01:45:33.820 We're just talking.

01:45:34.360 We're talking about humanity in general.

01:45:35.740 Yeah, but you're conflating having births to unaliving yourself.

01:45:40.320 And those are completely different things.

01:45:41.720 Yeah, but that's because the conversation gradually.

01:45:43.540 So I'm not, I'm not disputing with you that in this case, those are two different topics,

01:45:50.040 but they, it, it evolved that way between us talking about the one to the other.

01:45:54.840 That was, that was a heated moment on the whatever podcast.

01:45:58.280 What was the zombie talk?

01:45:59.700 No, not the zombie talk.

01:46:01.020 Yeah, that was pretty dull.

01:46:03.320 On the previous episode or, or this episode?

01:46:06.280 No, you can talk about zombies if you want.

01:46:07.800 So do you, I mean, but you think that that's preferable?

01:46:10.180 Like you wouldn't even try?

01:46:11.460 See, yeah.

01:46:13.440 For my first instinct as a human was to try, like my instinct wasn't to like give up and

01:46:20.320 like, you know, whatever.

01:46:22.120 But then I realized I'm like, if in the theory, we're having a whole apocalypse here and it

01:46:26.920 like, why?

01:46:27.560 Like, you know, if a meteor is coming down, like, why do I feel the need to get pregnant?

01:46:31.960 Like, let's just.

01:46:32.700 If you had like, I can send a, I'm sending an asteroid too, by the way.

01:46:36.320 Go ahead, Andrew.

01:46:36.780 If you had like a 15 year old cousin that you really loved and he came to you and was

01:46:40.920 like.

01:46:40.980 I have six godchildren.

01:46:42.060 Yeah.

01:46:42.240 Okay.

01:46:42.560 15 year old little cousin.

01:46:43.640 And he said, I'm going to unalive myself.

01:46:45.700 Would you try to talk him out of it?

01:46:48.540 Yes.

01:46:49.080 Why?

01:46:49.560 To an extent.

01:46:50.480 Why?

01:46:51.360 Um, I think when you're that young, you need more like context.

01:46:56.280 But I think if you get to an age where you're like 30 and you're like, it's still not working.

01:47:00.120 What about 17?

01:47:02.460 Um, still not developed.

01:47:03.640 18?

01:47:04.220 We're developed more on like 24, 25.

01:47:06.560 You'd have to wait till someone's 25 before you'd allow them to do that.

01:47:10.040 I mean, I think.

01:47:10.580 Do they have to wait till they're 25 to get married or have sex?

01:47:14.200 Uh, no.

01:47:15.420 No, but, but this much bigger decision, right?

01:47:20.520 You think that these.

01:47:21.740 Yo, bone man, five, three, I think they're gifted 50 memberships.

01:47:26.280 Go ahead, Andrew.

01:47:26.760 Yeah.

01:47:26.920 So you think that they're, they're fully capable of figuring out who they want to have sex with,

01:47:31.240 getting married, probably going off and joining the military, whatever they want to do,

01:47:34.900 but they can't make this decision.

01:47:36.240 Oh, I don't think even at 18, they should be like the military.

01:47:40.580 What about sex?

01:47:41.220 Can they have sex at 18?

01:47:42.400 Is that fine with you?

01:47:43.680 Um, I think so, depending how much the age difference is with the other person.

01:47:49.600 Okay.

01:47:50.060 They're same age.

01:47:51.340 Yeah.

01:47:51.600 Yeah.

01:47:51.840 You don't care.

01:47:52.460 Right.

01:47:52.760 But, but if the same 18 year old came to you and said that they want to make this other

01:47:57.100 decision, you think that they're enough of an adult to make this life, potentially life

01:48:01.500 changing decision, but not this other potentially life changing decision.

01:48:05.560 Hmm.

01:48:07.680 What?

01:48:08.280 So the, in turn, the life changing decision would be to like procreate.

01:48:12.120 Yeah.

01:48:14.000 Uh, I guess in one scenario, it feels like it's their choice.

01:48:19.420 And the other scenario, it feels like it's being forced.

01:48:21.600 No, it's both their choice on them.

01:48:23.140 No, no, no.

01:48:23.540 In this particular case, it's like they choose to have a baby at 18.

01:48:27.060 Yeah.

01:48:27.700 Or they choose to, uh, unalive themselves at 18.

01:48:30.840 Yeah.

01:48:31.000 Both massive life changing forever choices.

01:48:34.180 Right.

01:48:34.400 And you think the one is okay, but not the other.

01:48:36.340 Okay.

01:48:36.520 Well, before when they were just having sex, that was one thing.

01:48:40.020 But if we're going and bringing a baby in it, no, I don't think you should bring a baby

01:48:42.860 in at 18 either.

01:48:44.040 Hold on.

01:48:44.820 Just a sec.

01:48:45.320 Thank you, man.

01:48:45.940 Her instinct was to tell her friends to off themselves so that she can plausibly escape

01:48:50.560 the zombies.

01:48:51.680 No.

01:48:52.060 Smart move.

01:48:53.140 She is obviously the first dead.

01:48:55.080 Oh, no.

01:48:56.020 Can you explain?

01:48:57.620 The fuck?

01:48:59.420 Okay.

01:49:00.400 Um, here, let me move the conversation on.

01:49:02.680 I wish I was that clever.

01:49:03.600 Let me move the conversation on a little bit.

01:49:06.320 So, uh, we, we have a couple chats here.

01:49:08.380 I'm going to get these.

01:49:09.400 We have, it's coming up in just a sec.

01:49:12.140 Fort, Fortescue?

01:49:14.120 Thank you, man.

01:49:14.580 Never thought I'd come across someone with just the right amount of brain cells to be

01:49:17.800 a brick.

01:49:18.680 Ladies and gentlemen, we found her.

01:49:21.040 I think he's talking about Kiki over there and with the blue hair.

01:49:23.980 All right.

01:49:24.340 Thank you, man.

01:49:24.840 Appreciate it.

01:49:25.820 We have Grid One Motorsports here coming up in just a sec.

01:49:31.360 Awesome.

01:49:31.820 I walk into Dollar General Greta being purposefully obtuse and Destiny's Child arguing, just argue,

01:49:38.340 going to be fun.

01:49:39.460 Sorry, I missed the first bit.

01:49:41.000 Hey, Grid One.

01:49:41.620 Thank you, man.

01:49:42.600 Welcome to the stream.

01:49:44.020 And then we have Peacecraft here.

01:49:47.240 Let's not linger too long on this, but he's got a question here.

01:49:51.740 Andrew, ask Farha where rights come from.

01:49:54.440 She cannot attack you on deontology while also holding rights are social.

01:49:58.900 Six men outvoted women, three women in society.

01:50:02.480 This is what democracy looks like.

01:50:04.560 I think this is, you guys have had a previous conversation about this.

01:50:09.320 Maybe let's not linger too long, but if you guys want to.

01:50:11.700 Well, it's going to take, it's going to take a few minutes of lingering if we get into it.

01:50:16.400 Do you think more than 10 minutes?

01:50:17.720 I think we can probably get it done in 10 minutes.

01:50:18.980 Less than 10 minutes?

01:50:19.820 Okay.

01:50:20.140 We'll try to get it done in 10 minutes.

01:50:21.620 So he's asking the first fundamental question, which is where do rights come from?

01:50:25.720 Okay.

01:50:26.120 I think we've gotten into this a little bit in terms of women's suffrage.

01:50:29.680 Oh, wait.

01:50:30.420 Should we?

01:50:30.800 Is this, is that TOS?

01:50:32.160 No.

01:50:32.480 Women's suffrage?

01:50:33.020 No, women's suffrage.

01:50:33.940 No, no, no.

01:50:34.160 Like talking about?

01:50:35.140 We're not going to say repeal the, we're not going to do any of that.

01:50:38.360 Go ahead.

01:50:39.260 I do agree with you that rights are ultimately decided by the culture at large and who decides

01:50:44.360 to give it.

01:50:45.180 Obviously, we had a point of contention about whether that means that women's rights are

01:50:48.900 ultimately laughable since men are the stronger gender and can ultimately overpower them and

01:50:53.200 stuff like that.

01:50:53.760 I'll still disagree with that.

01:50:55.580 I don't know if that necessarily applies to the hypothetical we were just engaging with.

01:50:59.100 We weren't really talking about rights.

01:51:00.420 And I'm happy to get back to that too.

01:51:01.800 But what he's saying is he's saying there's no real way for you to attack the worldview

01:51:07.160 if you think that rights are just kind of socially constructed, which I would agree with you.

01:51:13.600 They are.

01:51:14.260 They're socially constructed entitlements that have to be limited by duties and obligations.

01:51:18.480 That's what they are.

01:51:19.540 You would agree with me that that's basically what they are?

01:51:21.840 Yes.

01:51:21.940 Like you can't have, okay.

01:51:23.040 So if the society comes through this through its deontological worldview or like universal

01:51:28.700 ethics, you don't really have anything to argue.

01:51:31.420 And if they come through it through utilitarian means, you don't really have anything to argue.

01:51:35.060 That's what his point is.

01:51:36.240 That's what I think he's trying to say.

01:51:38.060 So then if you bring that chat back up, I'll read the other part and see if I can figure

01:51:42.120 out exactly what he's after here.

01:51:45.660 Ask Farha where rights come from.

01:51:47.420 She cannot attack you on deontology while also holding rights are social.

01:51:51.140 Six men outvoted women, three women in society.

01:51:53.960 This is what democracy looks like.

01:51:55.200 Right.

01:51:55.360 So he's saying, so if we're back on the island and we have a democracy and six men, right,

01:52:01.840 are able to outvote the women, the women are like, I don't want to be essayed.

01:52:05.540 And the six men are like, but we want to essay you.

01:52:07.800 Yeah, they could do it.

01:52:08.580 I think we were more discussing what they ought to do.

01:52:11.160 But they're saying it's morally wrong for them to do it.

01:52:13.220 Is there a different example we can use besides the essay?

01:52:16.400 But I'm just, that's what he's pointing to in his question.

01:52:19.720 That's the only reason I brought it up.

01:52:21.160 Is there like a different, you know.

01:52:23.040 Yeah.

01:52:23.280 Maybe not that same, but like it could be like.

01:52:25.120 Okay.

01:52:25.480 So maybe we'll just use, we'll just use some kind of.

01:52:27.560 There's like one restaurant on the island.

01:52:29.400 Do the thing.

01:52:30.220 Or is it like pizza?

01:52:31.000 Maybe there's pizza on that.

01:52:31.720 So do the thing.

01:52:32.400 We'll do the thing.

01:52:33.300 I personally would prefer if it was Chick-fil-A.

01:52:34.380 Yeah.

01:52:34.600 And you were personally asking me whether I think that's right to do, not whether I think

01:52:40.140 that's congruent with some other substructure of rights and ethics.

01:52:43.120 Well, yeah.

01:52:43.340 Well, what I'm asking you is that.

01:52:44.820 You were saying, would it be good for those politicians?

01:52:46.400 Well, that holds.

01:52:47.560 To create those policies.

01:52:48.340 And I said, well, what do you think of this micro example?

01:52:50.640 And then you kind of conceded.

01:52:51.720 Okay.

01:52:51.900 That's a bit unethical to whatever ethical framework you have.

01:52:56.240 It's not.

01:52:56.860 I would say it's not preferable.

01:52:59.700 But if I had to, I would do it.

01:53:01.720 So I would still say that that's better than the alternative.

01:53:05.180 Better than alternative.

01:53:06.040 That was different than the tone you had, which brought up the example, which is that you

01:53:09.100 think we should be doing this.

01:53:10.540 And that would be ultimately the best thing to do, which is create policies that create a

01:53:14.240 situation in which the human race is sustained.

01:53:17.240 And that's a completely different tone than saying, ah, that'd be a bit preferable.

01:53:20.400 No, no, no, no, no.

01:53:21.540 You're complaining two different things.

01:53:23.200 So the first is into the hypothetical of the island.

01:53:25.740 Okay.

01:53:26.400 That's the one where I would say, this is not something I would like, but it's preferable

01:53:30.380 to the alternative.

01:53:30.860 Is it a tropical island or is it like an island near Great Britain and it's kind of cloudy?

01:53:37.140 Okay.

01:53:37.280 Now you're obstructing.

01:53:38.300 Okay.

01:53:38.420 Okay.

01:53:38.720 So my point was, I see that as a direct microcosm of the type of society you're trying to create

01:53:43.580 in which you're saying, maybe we should have policies on LGBT.

01:53:45.220 Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything.

01:53:46.200 On promiscuity.

01:53:47.020 No, no, no.

01:53:47.420 That's not even an argument.

01:53:48.660 Wait, what do you mean?

01:53:49.160 I haven't even finished.

01:53:49.740 Well, because you said you started this with a total strength that this thing here that

01:53:54.760 you answered to, I see is a microcosm to a society you're advocating for that doesn't

01:54:00.220 follow.

01:54:00.800 So you have to start like this instead.

01:54:02.880 You can say, you can agree with me and say, okay, you're right.

01:54:05.820 You're alternative to this.

01:54:08.200 You know, I don't find that preferable.

01:54:10.200 You find it preferable, whatever.

01:54:12.020 Right.

01:54:12.280 But there's no microcosm to that.

01:54:14.780 That and the, I would make or promote in society that people got married young so that

01:54:20.140 they had more children in society.

01:54:21.700 How, how would those be a microcosm?

01:54:23.720 Because I saw the summary of your argument as this, that the ultimate good should be prolonging

01:54:28.000 the human race and politicians should be creating policies which create that situation in which

01:54:32.720 the human race is being replenished at a high rate.

01:54:34.700 If that includes suppressing female promiscuity, suppressing homosexuality.

01:54:38.160 So then I said, if that's the ultimate goal, let's change up the structure of the society

01:54:41.660 a little bit.

01:54:42.120 We're on an island where no women want to have sex.

01:54:43.980 No one would want to reproduce and birth children.

01:54:46.520 Now, do you think it's congruent?

01:54:47.760 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:48.280 Well, no, it's still not, but it's closer.

01:54:50.760 Can you explain why?

01:54:51.480 I'm trying to.

01:54:52.580 It's closer, right?

01:54:53.820 But your problem is this, is that what is your actual argument here against me having

01:55:00.680 the value first of humanity over, over LGBTQ?

01:55:06.560 So if humanity could not exist with LGBTQ, what you have stated is that then it should die

01:55:12.560 out.

01:55:12.740 I stated that I'm prioritizing autonomy over a utilitarian conception of prolonging the

01:55:19.080 human race.

01:55:19.460 Right, but what could you think of, I can't actually think of a single example that I would

01:55:25.320 say, like for instance, if women couldn't, couldn't in society get like gang banged by

01:55:31.940 five dudes, okay, that's still just a like sexual activity.

01:55:36.140 Would you prefer that society be wiped out completely or that women be allowed to do

01:55:41.620 that?

01:55:42.760 Can you rephrase?

01:55:43.740 Wait, you're saying either we criminalize.

01:55:46.300 Yeah.

01:55:46.520 If we were to criminalize, you can no longer get gang banged by five guys.

01:55:51.140 Why, why are the examples always related to like, is there any examples?

01:55:55.760 Is this not a show about sex?

01:55:57.320 I don't understand.

01:55:57.860 Why are you a brutal all of a sudden for TOS?

01:55:59.960 Okay.

01:56:00.180 Okay.

01:56:00.400 Okay.

01:56:00.960 Okay.

01:56:01.260 So if it is five dudes though, if you criminalize that, would you, would the preference be that

01:56:08.060 humanity goes extinct rather than criminalizing that women cannot get gang banged by five

01:56:14.660 dudes?

01:56:14.940 If getting gang banged leads to people getting wiped out?

01:56:18.400 Yeah.

01:56:19.720 Um, I think if you have no other objection to the gang bang other than it wipes people

01:56:25.660 out.

01:56:27.080 Go ahead.

01:56:27.640 Sorry.

01:56:27.840 Sorry.

01:56:28.000 Go ahead.

01:56:28.260 Go ahead.

01:56:28.400 Go ahead.

01:56:28.620 If you could draw like a line between how this is affecting other things, like when we

01:56:31.840 have laws on things in terms of health and stuff like that, then I think that's a bit

01:56:35.500 different.

01:56:36.020 Like I said, I'm going to be a moral absolutist about this.

01:56:38.620 I do prioritize autonomy over prolonging the human race.

01:56:41.580 I think if that's what fulfills people and it's not hurting other people in any other

01:56:45.520 type of metric, I'm going to prioritize that.

01:56:48.140 So, so this would be the case for all forms of, um, of sexuality or, uh, autonomy that you

01:56:55.160 can possibly think of is that if that style, but, but the point is right, is that if these

01:57:02.120 policies or these things led to the extinction of humanity, you don't actually care because

01:57:08.280 it's more important inside of your worldview for the hedonism right now.

01:57:12.040 No, I didn't say hedonism.

01:57:12.900 I said autonomy.

01:57:13.440 What about this?

01:57:14.220 Either everyone's wiped out or everyone lives in cages.

01:57:16.980 They have food given to them once a day.

01:57:19.420 You know what I mean?

01:57:20.020 They're living barely giving them the food.

01:57:22.180 I don't know.

01:57:23.140 Dogs, but that's not the point.

01:57:24.880 Well, then your, your hypothetical is not logically valid.

01:57:27.960 Why?

01:57:28.380 Was the island valid?

01:57:29.720 What kind of dogs?

01:57:30.700 Yeah.

01:57:30.980 Well, yeah.

01:57:31.380 I mean, it's a hypothetical.

01:57:32.660 It's imaginary, but a hypothetical, a hypothetical.

01:57:35.620 Okay.

01:57:35.780 Sorry.

01:57:36.100 There's one person.

01:57:37.920 Okay.

01:57:38.420 There's one person who's in, who's caged all the other people.

01:57:41.800 I don't, I don't know who's caged them.

01:57:43.920 Just imagine either everyone's in cages and one person or a robot.

01:57:47.400 Cause you know, we're a technological age.

01:57:49.980 Bone man 538 donated $199.

01:57:55.700 Procreation is inherently a sexual act or in art form.

01:57:58.920 So it's our demo that the females think they can have heteropaternal, superfic, undated

01:58:03.760 twins and don't need the men thoughts on virgin birth.

01:58:07.780 Anyway.

01:58:08.780 Well, hold on.

01:58:10.100 Thoughts on virgin birth.

01:58:11.420 What?

01:58:11.480 Yeah.

01:58:11.980 Okay.

01:58:12.300 All right.

01:58:12.740 Go ahead.

01:58:13.360 Um, thank you, bone man.

01:58:14.700 Yeah.

01:58:14.920 So either a military robot is feeding everyone in cages or Brian, I don't control it.

01:58:21.140 It's automatic.

01:58:21.560 No, I don't trigger it.

01:58:23.620 Uh, Andrew's nice phrases like your problem.

01:58:25.560 I'm not nice.

01:58:26.220 Your problem is you equate one body over another.

01:58:28.380 Does a pregnant woman have a blank when preg without a boy?

01:58:32.980 If not, how's that her body?

01:58:34.740 Wait, what?

01:58:35.380 I think she's in his genitive.

01:58:37.020 Oh, okay.

01:58:37.780 It must have.

01:58:38.960 Does a pregnant woman have a penis when pregnant with?

01:58:40.740 Okay.

01:58:41.360 Um, is this directed to you?

01:58:44.080 I'm not even paying attention to this.

01:58:45.260 I don't know what this is.

01:58:46.560 Be nice, Farrah.

01:58:47.380 Be nice.

01:58:47.600 Okay.

01:58:47.780 Sorry.

01:58:48.600 Um, okay.

01:58:49.300 It's gone.

01:58:49.580 Um, okay.

01:58:52.680 Military robot asking about bodily autonomy.

01:58:55.060 Yeah, that's okay.

01:58:55.720 Is that a separate?

01:58:56.640 Is that?

01:58:57.000 No.

01:58:57.420 I'm trying to stay on track for the flow of your show.

01:59:00.100 Okay.

01:59:00.540 Military robot feeds everyone in cages or military robot.

01:59:04.180 What is your contribution here?

01:59:06.300 But is it?

01:59:07.060 Sorry.

01:59:07.440 Sorry.

01:59:07.600 Okay.

01:59:07.840 I am kind of, no, no, no.

01:59:08.900 Let's hear it.

01:59:09.700 No, speak.

01:59:10.620 No, I was like, which military?

01:59:12.860 But that's, it's totally wrong.

01:59:14.060 I'm okay.

01:59:14.580 Your favorite one.

01:59:15.140 Now he's just having fun with it.

01:59:16.240 I'm just having a little fun.

01:59:17.060 Go ahead.

01:59:18.160 You want to add it in zombie?

01:59:19.240 It's just a little bandwagon.

01:59:19.720 Maybe it's a zombie robot.

01:59:21.140 Maybe it's a zombie feeding everyone.

01:59:22.380 Go ahead.

01:59:22.580 Go ahead.

01:59:22.840 Military robot.

01:59:23.480 They feed everybody inside of cages and other, if we don't feed them all inside of

01:59:27.240 cages, that'll be the end of the, of humanity.

01:59:30.220 No, I'm drawing a direct parallel to your example.

01:59:32.400 If either we eliminate gangbanks or the human race is wiped out, either everyone's living

01:59:36.760 in cages or humanity's wiped out.

01:59:38.420 I'm just trying to show you the way I perceive autonomy.

01:59:40.540 And maybe you might think because you're added in these degenerate activities that, that no

01:59:45.300 longer, you know what I mean?

01:59:46.280 It entails to autonomy, but for me it does.

01:59:49.500 It's actually, it's a threshold breaker.

01:59:51.220 Let me explain what I mean.

01:59:52.440 Thank you, Bonin.

01:59:52.980 So if we walk this, if we walk this backwards, let's say I agree with you and I go, okay,

01:59:58.760 you know, if everybody's living in cages, you're right.

02:00:01.980 I'm not willing to draw the line there.

02:00:03.360 Okay.

02:00:03.820 Let's just say I say that.

02:00:05.180 Okay.

02:00:05.560 So yeah, I think that maybe that's not preferable to all of humanity going extinct.

02:00:11.400 Right.

02:00:11.800 But I think that I could walk that back to a place where there could be activities where

02:00:17.540 I would look at them and be like, well, I mean, if we outlaw those activities, why, you

02:00:23.020 know what I mean?

02:00:23.440 It doesn't seem like it's, it seems like the alternative of humanity going extinct if we

02:00:27.580 don't is much worse.

02:00:28.860 You know what I'm saying?

02:00:29.360 The point of obviously, I know you understand a hypothetical.

02:00:30.760 The point of it was to try and deduce what your actual moral statement is from it.

02:00:34.980 And so you do prioritize.

02:00:35.580 Yeah, but you already understand what the value is.

02:00:37.500 But what I'm asking is where your threshold is.

02:00:38.780 No, I'm asking you, so do you then prioritize autonomy over prolonging the human race?

02:00:43.160 So let's say that within the Christian purview, I would say mostly, always, yes.

02:00:49.660 But there could be some conditionals in which I would say no, just like there would be some

02:00:53.560 conditionals for you.

02:00:54.740 Right.

02:00:54.900 It's just that the conditionals that I give you are much more obvious in society right this

02:01:00.100 second.

02:01:00.520 And so if the conditional inside of the society right this second, you look at it and go,

02:01:06.180 people, 3% of humanity must be able to be involved in LGBTQ relationships.

02:01:11.520 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.

02:01:14.400 Can we just kick Destiny's wannabe child already?

02:01:18.220 Her nonsensical circular arguments are beyond old.

02:01:22.000 Also ignoring the questions of people donating is poor form.

02:01:25.960 Show her the door.

02:01:26.920 They just throw on these buzzwords of circular and nothing they've pointed out that I've

02:01:31.240 said is circular, but okay.

02:01:33.040 Well, almost all arguments are.

02:01:34.780 Here, how about Farah?

02:01:35.900 Let's do this.

02:01:37.740 The TTS that just came in previously.

02:01:40.220 You're going to kick me?

02:01:40.660 Huh?

02:01:41.080 I don't know.

02:01:41.460 I thought you were going to say you're going to kick me for them.

02:01:42.780 No, no, no.

02:01:43.740 Does a pregnant woman, so he said your problem is you equate one body over another.

02:01:48.920 Does a pregnant woman have a penis when pregnant with a boy?

02:01:53.260 What?

02:01:53.420 If not, how is that her body?

02:01:55.300 That's not my question.

02:01:56.400 That's his.

02:01:56.940 I'm so dialed into this conversation.

02:01:58.240 Can you say that one more time?

02:01:59.480 Okay.

02:01:59.780 Does a pregnant woman have a penis when pregnant with a boy?

02:02:02.480 If not, how is that her body?

02:02:04.340 Is that related, Andrew, sort of to this?

02:02:06.280 Am I being dense?

02:02:07.420 I don't understand the question.

02:02:08.180 Yeah, well, pull the question up on the screen real quick.

02:02:11.220 I kind of get it.

02:02:12.440 It's this one.

02:02:14.320 Andrew's nice phrase is like.

02:02:15.560 He's saying your problem is you equate one body over.

02:02:18.740 How does that sentence even make sense?

02:02:20.140 Equate one body over another?

02:02:21.520 Yeah, so this is how he ties it in.

02:02:23.200 Does a pregnant woman have a.

02:02:25.180 A penis.

02:02:26.140 What?

02:02:26.500 A penis.

02:02:28.000 Oh, okay.

02:02:28.540 How did you know that?

02:02:29.280 When pregnant with a boy.

02:02:31.040 Oh, you can see it without the sensor.

02:02:33.360 Okay, so I see.

02:02:34.620 So what he's asking then is like.

02:02:37.040 I think that this is what's being asked.

02:02:39.020 I don't know.

02:02:39.460 I don't know for sure, but I think that what he's asking is if you had to outlaw being,

02:02:45.700 you know, the T part of the LGBT, if just that part, and if for some reason that part

02:02:53.000 led to humanity going extinct, would you stop that from happening?

02:02:57.840 I wouldn't.

02:02:58.480 And again, I think that's completely consistent.

02:02:59.900 It sounds extreme, but I think this is all completely consistent.

02:03:02.500 Like what?

02:03:02.940 I mean, you can say it's consistent, but you know, it actually would be consistent too.

02:03:06.700 It's not inconsistent for you to have a threshold breaker either for you to have a threshold.

02:03:10.660 I was curious what yours is, because you keep saying you have one, but you haven't yet

02:03:12.840 to detail it.

02:03:13.420 Well, you would have to outline.

02:03:14.820 You'd have to outline every single scenario that I could ever think of.

02:03:17.760 Okay, so cages, no.

02:03:18.300 And in this case, I give you really easy ones.

02:03:20.180 Cages, no.

02:03:21.040 Gang bangs, yes.

02:03:22.000 T, yes.

02:03:23.440 Homosexuality, yes.

02:03:24.160 Oh, no.

02:03:24.180 No cages, I would still say that that's preferable to extinction because it's a temporary condition.

02:03:29.220 Here, let's switch things up a little bit.

02:03:31.600 If time permitting, if we can maybe get back into it later on in the show.

02:03:35.740 I do really want to come back to what I think kind of stoked this initially.

02:03:39.840 It sounded like Myra.

02:03:42.700 Myra.

02:03:43.320 Sorry, my bad.

02:03:44.400 You're against, you're not a fan of monogamy.

02:03:47.480 I don't want to misquote you, but you're not in favor of monogamy or what's your position?

02:03:52.700 I think monogamy should be a personal choice.

02:03:55.020 There shouldn't be any pressure for whatever a person may think is best of an outcome in the future because that's so subjective.

02:04:06.840 And none of us really know what's going to happen because there's so many factors leading to it.

02:04:11.120 So there's no point of putting those psychological cages on people in the present moment.

02:04:17.060 I mean, couldn't you argue, for example, like having monogamy, as Andrew kind of already pointed out and articulated, nuclear family, monogamy, that's what's best for society.

02:04:27.800 Nobody knows what's best for society.

02:04:30.800 Well, I mean, do you know that?

02:04:33.600 So.

02:04:34.500 Wait, wait.

02:04:35.500 You said nobody knows what's best for society.

02:04:38.380 Would that include you?

02:04:40.780 Yes.

02:04:41.200 So how do you know that nobody knows what's best for society?

02:04:44.280 What I know is that there's no reason to pressure people psychologically to do or not do something if they're not hurting anyone.

02:04:53.220 That's ridiculous.

02:04:54.320 You do it all the time, right?

02:04:55.460 Because you believe that there's going to be a certain outcome in the future and you're trying to predict it because that assertiveness is actually concerning.

02:05:03.980 You don't know.

02:05:04.780 Let me ask you a question.

02:05:06.580 Let's say you're driving down the street.

02:05:08.300 You drive a car?

02:05:09.640 I do.

02:05:10.080 Okay.

02:05:11.200 You blow through a stop sign.

02:05:12.460 Have you hurt anybody?

02:05:15.280 Well, I would be breaking the law there.

02:05:17.160 Have you hurt anybody?

02:05:20.000 Have I hurt?

02:05:20.840 Have you hurt anybody by blowing the stop sign and not stopping?

02:05:24.060 If you don't get in a crash.

02:05:25.280 If there are no people around.

02:05:26.140 If there's no people.

02:05:27.020 Then I guess I didn't hurt anyone.

02:05:28.340 Right.

02:05:28.580 You didn't hurt anybody.

02:05:29.660 Do you think people should do that?

02:05:33.040 No, because that would be against the law.

02:05:34.580 Well, okay.

02:05:35.320 Well, let's just assume for a second that we're talking about what's moral.

02:05:39.660 And that's what we're talking about is what's moral, not what's lawful.

02:05:42.280 You would agree there's all kinds of laws which could be passed which are immoral.

02:05:45.300 Right?

02:05:45.980 Like if I passed a law saying you can no longer be a member of the LGBTQ, you would consider that an immoral law.

02:05:52.740 Right?

02:05:53.040 Well, this is what I'm saying.

02:05:55.160 This type of thinking is what we should be avoiding.

02:05:58.160 No, I think we should be engaging with it.

02:06:00.340 So let me finish real quick.

02:06:02.020 So we're talking about a moral conundrum here.

02:06:04.800 When that person blew through that stop sign, okay, he didn't hurt anybody.

02:06:10.640 Nobody got killed.

02:06:11.520 Nothing like this.

02:06:12.920 Right?

02:06:13.560 Did he do anything wrong?

02:06:15.440 He broke the law.

02:06:16.440 Yeah, but what did he do that's morally wrong?

02:06:18.280 Okay.

02:06:18.380 Nothing?

02:06:24.360 Nothing.

02:06:24.980 He didn't do anything morally incorrect.

02:06:28.400 Even though he wasn't thinking about anybody else, right?

02:06:31.340 He wasn't really living up to whatever his obligations or duty were for you.

02:06:36.560 He didn't do anything at all morally incorrect.

02:06:40.100 Even though it could have led to this thing, it just didn't, right?

02:06:44.040 This is what we're talking about here.

02:06:45.820 So this is why when you say to me, you say, Andrew, listen, when you bring this up and you say, well, all that matters is that nobody's being hurt.

02:06:55.320 Well, I can give you all kinds of actions where people aren't hurt, but you should probably still be against those actions.

02:07:00.840 Would a better example than the stop sign one be drunk driving?

02:07:05.460 Like, you can drunk drive, but not actually get into a crash or hurt anybody.

02:07:08.920 I mean, it's an infinite amount of examples that we could come up with, right?

02:07:12.020 Yeah, but the point is that being LGBT is not against the law.

02:07:16.080 Holy fuck, this is like the most fucking TOS fucking...

02:07:17.220 It still is in some places.

02:07:19.660 Well, no, nothing we've touched on has been...

02:07:21.980 Okay, so pick a topic.

02:07:24.100 But we can back up from that, yeah.

02:07:25.940 That's fine.

02:07:27.360 We haven't done body count yet.

02:07:28.600 We could get into body count, but the whole thing with monogamy.

02:07:32.600 But you were saying that we don't know if that's better for society.

02:07:37.640 We really don't know how that's going to play out.

02:07:40.500 Maybe there's going to be other species that will take over, and from their point of view, that would be best.

02:07:46.360 Huh?

02:07:47.080 Wait, other species that are going to take over?

02:07:49.160 Do you want to talk about aliens?

02:07:51.840 Isn't this the time?

02:07:52.960 Well, I'm...

02:07:53.960 Are you like dolphins?

02:07:55.960 Which species do you think is like...

02:07:58.120 If you had the top three species that are the risk for us, where do you put it?

02:08:04.580 Like, I think honey badgers are like number one, number two.

02:08:07.140 I love cheetahs.

02:08:08.740 I'm going to bet on cheetahs.

02:08:10.200 Cheetahs are going to...

02:08:11.060 Okay.

02:08:11.480 They're sexy and so fast.

02:08:15.160 Cheetahs.

02:08:15.920 Okay.

02:08:16.360 But, like, you can't even...

02:08:19.220 If I were to say, for example, that nuclear family, monogamy, that's what's best for society, do you disagree?

02:08:25.720 Now, bear in mind, I'm not saying that everybody within the society needs to...

02:08:32.200 There can be individuals that choose to not get married or have kids.

02:08:34.620 But if a majority of people, it would be the best for society for the vast majority of people to be monogamous and for there to be nuclear families.

02:08:47.280 I think based on what I've observed recently going on in the world, I'm worried about a man trying to impose his or her ideology because here she believes it's best.

02:09:01.220 And then people suffering because of that, whether it's physical or psychological.

02:09:05.640 I think we should be avoiding that at any cost.

02:09:09.120 Do you think we should avoid suffering at any cost?

02:09:14.660 I think I made it clear what I just said.

02:09:16.220 Should I repeat that?

02:09:17.280 Well, I'm looking for which of the value claims is important.

02:09:20.500 So, is it the suffering that's important?

02:09:22.420 Do you want people to avoid suffering?

02:09:25.120 I feel like there's so much suffering that is unnecessary that's going on in the world right now.

02:09:32.840 And it's very sad.

02:09:37.020 I don't know if I should go into that because it's political.

02:09:40.600 I love politics.

02:09:42.060 What's going on?

02:09:43.260 No, it's more so...

02:09:45.260 I'm going to stop right there.

02:09:47.600 Well, okay.

02:09:48.300 But so my position is that monogamy, when it comes...

02:09:51.940 Look, I'm not saying that everybody has to be monogamous, but just for the best of society, if there's...

02:09:58.000 Hold on.

02:09:59.420 Oh my god.

02:10:02.640 Always with the herpes.

02:10:03.600 Always with the herpes, man.

02:10:04.700 Always with the herpes, man.

02:10:07.560 He's a...

02:10:08.100 Urologist.

02:10:10.580 If anyone accidentally touches her skin, drown yourself in bleach.

02:10:14.640 Hashtag body count.

02:10:16.500 Who's all that?

02:10:16.880 Ignore the...

02:10:17.920 Ignore the...

02:10:19.140 He's a urologist.

02:10:20.240 He likes to say...

02:10:21.320 Yeah.

02:10:21.920 He's hilarious.

02:10:22.820 If you want...

02:10:23.300 Shoot shots back.

02:10:24.420 His name's Jay Butler.

02:10:26.340 You want to fire...

02:10:26.720 Jay Butler, you're hilarious.

02:10:28.440 Anybody want to...

02:10:28.820 Yeah, you can get general herpes without condoms.

02:10:31.620 Thank you, Jay Butler.

02:10:32.620 That was poetic.

02:10:33.900 Okay.

02:10:34.640 So do you think...

02:10:37.180 Would you agree that it's better for society, for people to be monogamous?

02:10:43.140 At this time, no.

02:10:44.940 Why?

02:10:46.140 Because it's best if we have a freedom of choice.

02:10:49.400 No, that's not what I'm saying.

02:10:50.260 There's still freedom of choice.

02:10:51.160 I'm not saying I'm advocating that there be laws passed that would force people to be monogamous.

02:10:56.640 But as the...

02:10:58.520 Overall, generally speaking, right?

02:10:59.380 Overall, if we...

02:11:01.560 Just asking the consequence.

02:11:02.940 He's saying you keep everything how it is.

02:11:05.300 Everybody has the same rights.

02:11:06.960 But if people move towards monogamy, do you end up with a better society than if people don't go towards monogamy?

02:11:13.940 That's a tough question.

02:11:16.140 Really?

02:11:16.860 Sometimes when I look around...

02:11:18.080 It's really a tough question.

02:11:19.220 It really is.

02:11:19.920 Why?

02:11:20.080 Yeah.

02:11:21.560 Because...

02:11:22.040 Are you...

02:11:23.000 Go ahead.

02:11:23.900 Go ahead.

02:11:25.320 Are you going to say...

02:11:26.100 Because there are certainly instances where even within monogamous relationships, those monogamous relationships don't work out or there's divorce.

02:11:34.940 There's so many downsides to that.

02:11:36.580 Exactly.

02:11:37.120 Like people really do feel the pressure, whether it's a male or a female, to be in that relationship and their health goes down.

02:11:43.260 What's the best health goes out?

02:11:44.900 But it very much depends on the relationship.

02:11:47.760 Because like I said, they get stuck in toxic ones.

02:11:49.760 So their psychological and physical health deteriorates.

02:11:52.680 I feel like people grab towards monogamy because it's easier just in general.

02:11:57.380 And that's maybe why it's better for society.

02:11:59.640 In a polyamorous relationship or just like having multiple partners, whatever it is that you're into, there's much more communication and honesty that has to go on than being in a monogamous relationship.

02:12:12.120 Can we move on from this BS?

02:12:15.240 Also, Brian, we can totally see you playing solitaire in the reflection.

02:12:18.860 I played it for like three minutes.

02:12:20.340 It was just three minutes.

02:12:21.120 I was just having a little fun moment there.

02:12:23.580 Were you actually?

02:12:24.560 Yeah, I was playing solitaire for like three minutes.

02:12:26.220 I was still listening.

02:12:27.100 I was multitasking.

02:12:28.540 It was just a little...

02:12:29.420 Yeah, but what about you then?

02:12:30.860 Do you think that society is better off?

02:12:33.760 Let's say that we kept, you know, all of my rights in place, right?

02:12:38.880 Just generally speaking, you think society is better off?

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02:12:47.020 She dumb AF, but hot AF.

02:12:49.520 Chat hates, but FR she wants to cook, clean, and care.

02:12:54.160 It's obvious.

02:12:55.680 Brixen will cancel, but panel, do you support Israel or terrorists?

02:13:00.320 That's not really within the purview of dating, so we're not going to go there.

02:13:08.520 But, you know, thank you for the...

02:13:11.520 Do you want to respond to him, though?

02:13:13.080 I mean, he seems...

02:13:13.780 Oh, that was directed towards me?

02:13:15.080 Yes.

02:13:15.620 I thought it was directed towards Brixen.

02:13:17.520 Well, no, the first part of it.

02:13:19.900 He said he'd still simp for you because you're hot AF.

02:13:24.160 Okay.

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02:13:32.920 Even Beat in underscore cheeks has gone soft listening to these girls.

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02:13:44.860 Thank you.

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02:13:47.920 Wait, okay, I totally lost track what my question was.

02:13:50.280 I was asking...

02:13:52.040 Does monogamy imply getting married?

02:13:55.180 No.

02:13:55.740 Staying with the same person.

02:13:57.080 Not necessarily.

02:13:58.060 No, not necessarily.

02:13:59.980 Okay.

02:14:00.760 Let me ask you...

02:14:01.480 Oh, I remember my question.

02:14:02.960 So, let's say there's a household with children.

02:14:05.000 What do you think would be the best parental relationship for children?

02:14:12.520 What's the relationship circumstance?

02:14:17.160 Between the parents.

02:14:18.020 I mean, is it like...

02:14:19.140 Like monogamy?

02:14:20.060 Like a harem?

02:14:20.500 I every day wish my parents would get a divorce and was like, oh my God.

02:14:24.060 And then one day my best friend's parents got a divorce and it was like the end of the

02:14:28.440 world for her.

02:14:29.120 Yeah, but do you think it's...

02:14:30.620 What he's asking is, is it optimal, do you think, for most parents, or most, most to

02:14:37.280 be man and a woman in a loving relationship inside of a household?

02:14:40.960 Do you think that that's mostly superior to like a single mom situation, for instance?

02:14:45.400 In this economy, yes.

02:14:46.640 In every economy, is it mostly superior?

02:14:50.400 Like at all times, is it mostly superior to the alternative?

02:14:53.380 I guess two questions.

02:14:54.300 Yeah.

02:14:54.700 Wait, wait, wait.

02:14:55.120 Just one clarification.

02:14:56.700 Is it most optimal for the family unit, for the children, and is it most optimal for

02:15:01.820 society at large, broadly speaking?

02:15:05.340 I think if there's no abuse and like things of that nature, then yeah, it's optimal.

02:15:11.340 Well, there could be abuse in other kind of arrangements, like polyamorous relationships,

02:15:15.260 too.

02:15:15.840 In all arrangements.

02:15:17.120 Okay, well, if we're spanning to all the arrangements.

02:15:19.440 So, okay, so then what's the question?

02:15:21.100 Well, let's just assume that, yeah, there could be, there's a large subset of otherwise

02:15:27.420 healthy relationships, and some of them might be unhealthy.

02:15:31.320 Okay.

02:15:31.440 But that would also apply to all other kind of arrangements that people have, whether it's

02:15:35.700 poly or whether it's a harem.

02:15:36.700 Yeah, we're just talking about monogamy.

02:15:38.300 Well, we are, but that.

02:15:40.020 Having a monogamous relationship, two parents stay together for the kids is the better choice.

02:15:44.980 Yeah.

02:15:45.760 I mean, if there's not, like I said, if there's not abuse going on, then yeah, I would say

02:15:50.580 just in general, it's always like having someone else to help cook or clean or run.

02:15:55.500 Is that what you think the value is, is just the material value, or is there an immaterial

02:15:59.960 value that's also used?

02:16:01.140 I think there can be immaterial value, but.

02:16:04.840 Like masculinity and femininity and all of the different things that these non-interchangeable

02:16:09.900 widgets known as man and woman bring to the table when it comes to raising a child?

02:16:13.740 I mean, yeah, we could throw all that in there, but I'm also like bisexual and wouldn't mind

02:16:17.200 raising kids with a female or by myself.

02:16:19.700 Yeah.

02:16:19.820 But do you think that that's an optimal arrangement versus having a man and a woman raise the child?

02:16:25.040 Like the, what's the, what do you think is the most conducive thing for the most part?

02:16:30.640 So we're not talking about everything.

02:16:32.200 I don't know because I have two, like what I call two gay dads and they raise a bunch

02:16:36.600 of kids every, it's, I, so for it kind of, are we going homosexual, heterosexual, does

02:16:41.500 that matter in the thing?

02:16:42.560 Let's like, are we just saying two people in the home?

02:16:44.900 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on.

02:16:45.940 For the sake of the conversation, let's not, let's not introduce this other paradigm when

02:16:51.960 it comes to sexuality.

02:16:53.440 Let's stick to just monogamy.

02:16:56.660 We're obligated to treat others as we'd like to be treated.

02:16:59.920 Cooperation is vital to the human population continuing.

02:17:04.040 That's true.

02:17:04.520 Agreed.

02:17:05.700 Agreed.

02:17:06.200 So, okay.

02:17:06.700 So it doesn't, in this monogamous relationship, it doesn't matter if they're gay, straight,

02:17:11.000 bi, whatever.

02:17:11.620 We're just saying a monogamous relationship.

02:17:12.400 Let's just, let's just keep it to monogamy.

02:17:14.000 Yes.

02:17:14.420 Okay.

02:17:15.240 Then, yeah, I think it's optimal to have two people around to help with, you know, it takes

02:17:19.560 a village to raise a child.

02:17:21.720 In that theory, I think it is optimal.

02:17:23.780 Is there any other benefits?

02:17:26.320 Yes.

02:17:27.040 Okay, go ahead, Laura.

02:17:28.300 I think the whole point is it's supposed to align with your proclivity.

02:17:31.120 So if you coerce someone who naturally is lesbian or gay into a monogamous situation, maybe they're

02:17:36.760 more likely to cheat and that's going to disrupt the family home and affect, you know, have

02:17:40.180 adverse outcomes for the child.

02:17:41.600 So it'd be better for those people who have those traits, whether it's homosexuality or

02:17:45.340 polyamory, to not enter those situations.

02:17:47.380 But I think you're saying even if people do have that proclivity to fuck other men or

02:17:51.700 fuck 10 women, they should still enter monogamy.

02:17:53.680 No, no, no.

02:17:53.700 Look, I want to move, I want to keep it strictly to monogamy.

02:17:57.000 I don't want to introduce.

02:17:59.300 But then what's the alternative?

02:18:00.600 What are you pitting monogamy against in this situation?

02:18:02.700 Yeah.

02:18:03.640 Polyamory?

02:18:04.360 Heterosexual, homosexual couples, they can both be monogamous.

02:18:07.680 I want to keep it strictly on monogamy.

02:18:08.840 I thought we'd talk about like one man, one woman, like femininity, masculinity.

02:18:11.860 So monogamy, he would say, whether you're pagan or homosexual, whatever, they can all

02:18:16.960 enter into monogamous relationships.

02:18:18.700 They can, I guess I thought you were talking, were you not talking about female male monogamy?

02:18:22.420 I was talking, I was, I was, the question was just strictly monogamy.

02:18:26.280 Okay.

02:18:27.420 So even if it's two guys or two girls, you think that as long as they're monogamous,

02:18:32.080 that's optimal to, like a guy and a girl being monogamous.

02:18:35.300 That would be, okay, that would be better than if there was like a household where there

02:18:40.160 were like.

02:18:40.740 Sister wives.

02:18:41.440 There were like five men and they were all raising or like five women or three men, three

02:18:47.800 women, like some polyamorous thing.

02:18:50.740 I think it would be better for it to be monogamous.

02:18:52.920 On to your point of like femininity and masculinity, because just curious, because you're also talking

02:18:59.840 about homosexuality.

02:19:00.800 Like, do you think that you need like feminine and masculine in a home to raise a healthy child

02:19:07.620 no matter like, do you, is that what you're saying also?

02:19:11.740 That like, generally speaking, it's a more optimal arrangement.

02:19:16.680 Yes.

02:19:17.480 Now here, I can kind of demonstrate this to you.

02:19:20.320 You would agree with me that every human being on planet earth has a mother and a father,

02:19:24.280 right?

02:19:25.420 Yes.

02:19:26.860 Well, do you think that considering that humanity has thrived for as long as it has, that there's

02:19:33.680 a possibility that that arrangement is maybe the best arrangement for why that has happened?

02:19:39.280 For why women and men make, why everyone has a mom and dad?

02:19:47.460 No, not why everybody has a mom and a dad, but the arrangement of having a mom and a dad

02:19:52.500 seems to have led to humans thriving.

02:19:55.460 And the mom and dad clearly have a vested interest in the child, right?

02:20:00.680 They clearly have a vested interest in the child in that particular configuration.

02:20:06.800 I mean, yeah.

02:20:09.440 I mean, there's a lot of people who don't stick around to raise their kids, so I think...

02:20:14.640 Yeah, but those are all, those are outliers.

02:20:16.460 Those are exceptions to the rule, right?

02:20:19.680 Yes.

02:20:20.140 Yeah.

02:20:20.640 So...

02:20:21.120 But there's a lot of them, so that might not be such an exception.

02:20:23.380 Well, and that's increasing, but I would make the argument that that's increasing because

02:20:27.100 the amount of what I call social degeneracy is increasing.

02:20:30.240 So, behaviors like that, people are more apt to engage in them because of a lack of stigma

02:20:36.180 and social shaming in society.

02:20:38.000 But, so, but do you think the government has anything to play in that?

02:20:41.160 Because I know...

02:20:41.780 Hold on.

02:20:42.300 I want to move this on.

02:20:43.720 Okay.

02:20:44.060 Um, all right.

02:20:45.560 So, hold on.

02:20:46.200 Let's, uh...

02:20:47.180 Jesus Christ.

02:20:48.520 Okay.

02:20:49.720 Um, hold on.

02:20:51.080 Uh...

02:20:52.080 Wait, let me see.

02:20:55.380 Sorry, guys.

02:20:55.860 I'm just getting, getting my notes caught up here.

02:20:58.060 I don't know what it, or what I'm not supposed to be moving into.

02:21:01.060 I feel like I keep on moving into something that I'm not supposed to, but I'm not sure

02:21:04.900 what it is.

02:21:07.720 Uh, it's, I feel like we're kind of, I don't know.

02:21:11.540 In the weeds.

02:21:12.360 Huh?

02:21:12.860 In the weeds.

02:21:13.740 No, not that.

02:21:14.520 Um, here, let me move things on.

02:21:16.300 Uh, Haley, I got some questions for you getting into some of your notes.

02:21:19.620 Yes.

02:21:19.980 In your pre-show notes to us, you described yourself as a socialist.

02:21:23.980 Yes.

02:21:24.340 With an interest in...

02:21:25.900 Traditional values.

02:21:26.820 Communism.

02:21:27.300 You okay, Nick?

02:21:27.920 In communism.

02:21:29.300 Nick, you okay?

02:21:30.340 Yeah, I'm fine.

02:21:31.040 Okay.

02:21:31.400 Sorry.

02:21:32.000 Um, you said, okay.

02:21:34.520 Sorry, go ahead.

02:21:35.280 You said interest in communism?

02:21:37.500 Communism, but also, like, some traditional values.

02:21:41.380 Communism?

02:21:41.980 Yeah.

02:21:42.440 Oh, come on.

02:21:43.020 We're not a communist.

02:21:44.040 Well, you said, okay, so...

02:21:44.820 I, well, that, see, I, I don't, that's why I say socialist, because I'm

02:21:49.960 still, like, full, doing my deep dive into communism, but I think if communism worked

02:21:56.120 how it was actually supposed to work and not how, like, we've had the Red Scare and

02:22:00.400 how people in history have painted out communism to be, then, yeah, I think communism would be

02:22:07.300 a great concept if we could do it properly.

02:22:12.760 A stateless society?

02:22:15.680 Um, to, to a degree.

02:22:17.960 It's just everyone helping everyone, everyone having homes, everybody being able to, like,

02:22:23.860 have some kind of food, water, shelter, clothes, like, I feel like the recklessness that you've

02:22:30.840 been kind of referring to is, part of it is, like, people, like, stealing because, not

02:22:37.260 because they want to steal and because they want to be reckless, but they want to resell

02:22:40.720 the stolen merch so that they could buy their baby diapers or afford formula, and so I agree

02:22:46.480 to a degree some of the reckless behavior is going up, but I think also part of that

02:22:50.760 is there's people that do want monogamous, the nuclear family thing, but we can't afford

02:22:56.120 it in this economy the way, like, inflation's going.

02:22:59.080 It's like, there was an article that was like, millennials don't want this, they want

02:23:03.380 to downsize, they want to this.

02:23:04.500 I, we would like marriage, we would like, not everyone, but there is, but the government

02:23:10.280 and society hasn't set us up like that, so, I mean, if you're into this whole procreation

02:23:16.620 thing, and, like, that's, like, very important to you, wouldn't communism, like, make sense

02:23:21.500 because everyone would have everything they need, and therefore we would, could focus on

02:23:25.580 procreation?

02:23:26.540 So, the problem with this is you're making a materialist argument, and so let me, let

02:23:33.160 me just walk you through it.

02:23:34.740 What you're saying is, right now we have the best standard of living that we've ever had

02:23:39.340 in history.

02:23:40.020 There's more materialism available to anybody than there ever has been.

02:23:43.020 We have cell phones, and we have big screen TVs, and we have these great cameras, and

02:23:46.680 we have all this electricity, and these light bulbs, and all the clothes, and all the new

02:23:50.160 cars, and all the this, and all the that.

02:23:51.560 If we just added more materialism, wouldn't people have children?

02:23:56.380 I think she's saying if we evened it out.

02:23:58.680 Not, I don't even, I'm not even thinking about that.

02:24:00.960 I'm thinking just, like, the minimum wage.

02:24:03.280 Yeah, but right, but all these people have all of these things already intact.

02:24:06.980 They already have the houses.

02:24:07.860 They already have the money.

02:24:08.540 They already have the everything.

02:24:09.460 They're still not having the children.

02:24:10.960 I don't think a lot of them do.

02:24:11.540 They do, and you and I know who has the children?

02:24:14.660 The people who don't have that.

02:24:16.100 The poor people.

02:24:16.980 The people who have no money.

02:24:18.200 People who have no housing.

02:24:19.140 The people who live poor, those are the ones that have the most amount of children.

02:24:23.260 Poor people, disproportionately, overwhelmingly have more children than all the rest of the

02:24:27.420 segments of society.

02:24:28.420 A lot of that has to do with lack of resources, though, which could be government-funded.

02:24:31.780 So then it can't be a material answer.

02:24:33.880 So it can't be a material answer to my question of when you say, if you want people to reproduce,

02:24:39.280 shouldn't you give them more material means?

02:24:40.620 Like, well, every time I look at the people who have the least amount of material re-means,

02:24:43.720 they reproduce the most.

02:24:45.380 The not even material means, well, if they're, that I don't understand how they have the

02:24:50.620 most material means, but they're also the poorest, because I'm not talking about material

02:24:53.740 means.

02:24:54.100 I'm just talking about basic food.

02:24:54.900 No, no, no.

02:24:55.260 The least.

02:24:55.880 I said the least.

02:24:56.920 The least.

02:24:57.260 The least, okay.

02:24:57.500 So they have the least amount of material means, and they still reproduce the most,

02:25:00.920 even though they have the least amount of materialism.

02:25:02.780 So that's not going to help me with my goal.

02:25:04.840 Okay.

02:25:05.080 So what you want though, is when you say, I want a fair allocation of resource, I want

02:25:09.160 people to have, I don't even know what you, what you want them to have because every communist

02:25:13.540 is different.

02:25:14.100 So let's just say like, I'm going to be maximum charitable as I can possibly be to you.

02:25:18.200 Everyone gets a house.

02:25:20.040 Okay.

02:25:20.500 Like, I don't know, a starter home.

02:25:22.560 I'm guessing you don't want everybody to have a mansion, right?

02:25:24.620 No, everyone.

02:25:25.260 Basic house.

02:25:26.000 Everyone has enough house for all their kids.

02:25:27.340 And they have basic things being taken care of for them, right?

02:25:30.240 Clothes, water, food, electricity.

02:25:32.880 Now, the fundamentals to this, the big problem you have with this worldview is when, even

02:25:38.960 though you think of rights in a different way than I do, using your kind of reasoning

02:25:42.540 for what a right is, does, do you ever have a right to anybody else's service?

02:25:49.140 No.

02:25:49.780 Well, then communism can't work and, and free healthcare can't work.

02:25:53.740 And none of those things can work because, because you're saying you don't have a right

02:25:58.320 to the services of others.

02:25:59.520 I could understand that.

02:26:00.820 And recently, though, I was reading about this village in Italy and there, it's a communist

02:26:06.040 village and around roughly like only like 30% of them choose to work and the other 70%

02:26:12.680 like just live their lives.

02:26:15.060 So they like kind of just live together, whatever, but not everyone works and serves, but doesn't

02:26:23.380 mean that their life is less valuable.

02:26:24.860 Yeah, but the, the question becomes this, let's say in, in some small scales, different

02:26:30.860 communes can work because they always have been able to, right?

02:26:33.340 You can have a bunch of like-minded people start a commune and all of them work towards

02:26:37.400 the common good.

02:26:38.060 No money, no nothing.

02:26:39.100 Nobody's saying that that can't work in a small scale because everybody's agreeing.

02:26:42.580 But on a large scale, when you have people who don't agree, they're like, wait, I don't

02:26:47.000 want to be your doctor.

02:26:47.800 Doc Venerbili is donated $200.

02:26:50.820 You communist idiot.

02:26:52.760 Everything you said is exactly what people lack in communist countries.

02:26:57.160 If you really want to be a red, you are free to go live like the Amish right now.

02:27:01.580 What the fuck?

02:27:02.520 Like a red now?

02:27:03.320 Yeah, well, he's saying a red, like a communist red.

02:27:06.260 Wait, what are your thoughts on capitalism?

02:27:09.880 If you like it, dislike it.

02:27:11.020 Well, you might if I just finish this.

02:27:11.900 It's hot.

02:27:12.400 So, so, sorry, go ahead.

02:27:13.100 It's almost done.

02:27:13.540 Yeah, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.

02:27:14.400 Yeah, we're very close to being finished with this.

02:27:16.780 So the thing is, is that if you can't compel other people to give you service, if you have

02:27:22.380 the best heart surgeons and you have the best at breast augmentation, whatever it is, right?

02:27:28.960 And they say, I'm not doing that shit for you.

02:27:32.020 I'm not going to go open up that guy's heart and I'm not going to fix it.

02:27:34.900 I'm not doing it, right?

02:27:36.960 You don't feel like you can compel him to do it, right?

02:27:39.860 So then he's going to be able to name his price and your communism doesn't work.

02:27:43.100 Like, that's the big hole.

02:27:44.780 The big hole is that the reason you always see communist countries, which are completely

02:27:48.840 and totally authoritarian, run at the literal barrel of a gun is because they have to compel

02:27:54.220 people to give their service.

02:27:55.760 And if you're not willing to do that, you can't have communism.

02:27:57.400 Well, that's, that's what I'm saying is like, that's not what I think true communism is.

02:28:01.480 And I'm not saying communism would work in America.

02:28:04.160 I definitely don't think, I mean, maybe one day that would take a lot of whatever, but

02:28:07.920 I don't think we're going to ever get there, especially in our generation.

02:28:10.720 But I do think that if it happened, it would be like a utopia, which is hard to imagine

02:28:16.360 everybody like somehow having their part or make, just making the flow of everything

02:28:22.980 works so everyone can live and choose whether they want to work or not work.

02:28:27.180 But wait, so in a communist utopia, what would be the, like, if you want to work, you can

02:28:33.280 work.

02:28:33.680 If you don't, you don't have to.

02:28:34.940 Because there's certainly jobs that are currently in under capitalism that are undesirable.

02:28:38.920 And I suspect those same jobs would also exist under communism.

02:28:43.220 Like there's some jobs that suck, right?

02:28:45.260 That are dangerous.

02:28:45.940 Who wants to go do the sewer work, in other words, and you're communist.

02:28:49.260 I mean, people, people get up and do it.

02:28:51.460 They do it now because they get paid a lot of money.

02:28:53.440 They have a higher incentive than other people who do other industries because they're doing

02:28:56.980 a horrible job and get paid a lot for it.

02:28:59.220 Under communism, you can either be like, would there be like movie stars under communism?

02:29:03.740 I don't know.

02:29:05.700 I haven't thought that far.

02:29:06.620 What do you mean by that?

02:29:07.420 But let's say I want to be a movie star under communism.

02:29:10.900 But there's also a job that requires men to go into the sewers and, or, you know, be line

02:29:17.940 workers, go into below freezing storms.

02:29:20.660 I would say go be a movie star.

02:29:22.000 But wouldn't everybody want to be a movie star versus having an undesirable job?

02:29:27.780 Even for a hypothetical situation like this, I feel like that's more like exaggerated because

02:29:33.140 at some point people, there wouldn't all just be movie stars.

02:29:37.360 You would not last a week in the bread lines.

02:29:41.240 No communism for you.

02:29:43.500 Socialism has failed or is failing in every society.

02:29:46.820 The claim it just has not been done right is horse hockey.

02:29:50.220 Fair.

02:29:50.620 I have a point about, um, and I guess I can ask your opinion on this, but what if you in

02:29:57.960 a, in the communist utopia that you're speaking about, what if you had to be the line worker?

02:30:04.740 Like, I think that's where it kind of falls apart, right?

02:30:06.800 Because nobody would choose to do that.

02:30:08.920 I'm personally like a good sport.

02:30:10.740 So if it's like, I, if it, if it's kind of like one of those one guys for a thousand,

02:30:17.020 then I personally am probably one of those people that would be like, yeah, I can do it.

02:30:20.900 But do you see what I'm saying?

02:30:21.800 That's what, that's like Mal, right?

02:30:23.360 But that's a very rare thing.

02:30:24.340 So Mal goes and he says.

02:30:25.260 But I'm saying there's more people that's got to exist like me.

02:30:27.220 He says this country really needs trenches, Doug, in a big way.

02:30:30.620 It needs, it needs some infrastructure work.

02:30:32.880 We need too many of those academics.

02:30:34.400 We don't need them anymore.

02:30:35.360 So all those people who wanted to be academics and were academics, they were the really smart

02:30:39.160 people, he made them dig ditches because that's what they needed.

02:30:42.480 That's what we need.

02:30:43.660 They needed in their society for it.

02:30:45.300 That's what he said anyway.

02:30:46.260 Okay.

02:30:46.680 This is what we need.

02:30:47.840 So you academics, you dumb eggheads, all you people come up with all these smart ideas,

02:30:51.720 dig ditches.

02:30:53.060 Yeah.

02:30:53.660 Some holes.

02:30:54.480 Right.

02:30:54.960 So, but the thing is, I think it's easier to speak in that, in a hypothetical situation

02:31:01.220 though, but we're also, I know you, I get you're a good sport, but like, would you

02:31:03.960 actually, we also live under capitalism.

02:31:06.500 So for us to try to really like rationalize doing these things under communism is crazy

02:31:13.100 because we live with the freedom to like choose, but there's other places, like places that

02:31:17.920 have been like remotely, like untouched by society where like they don't clock into jobs

02:31:22.360 and they just, the women have babies.

02:31:24.600 They've like, someone's a cook, someone's a nurse, someone's a midwife.

02:31:28.200 Like there's societies where that's like, no one's forcing this person to like be the nurse

02:31:33.300 or be the medicine man or whatever, but we're speaking from like a place where we, we can

02:31:38.140 go out and like, we know there's people who make like $30,000 a month or whatever.

02:31:41.120 We're speaking from like a very, of course we wouldn't be able to like rationalize communism.

02:31:45.280 I have a question for you.

02:31:45.640 Under communism, would someone who requires significant educational achievement, academic

02:31:51.200 achievement, for example, somebody who wants to be a brain surgeon, would they somehow live

02:31:56.560 better under communism than the person that doesn't want to do anything or would it, it

02:32:01.440 would be totally equal because then what is the incentive to like, or let's say a physically

02:32:06.420 laborious job, which is damaging to your body.

02:32:08.720 What would be the incentive if you had the option to not work, to go spend this time.

02:32:16.440 Some people just like helping other people.

02:32:19.600 Is that enough motivation?

02:32:20.640 And I know that's like the most cliche.

02:32:22.120 Jay, yeah, I, it's hard because in this society, like people want, want something out of it.

02:32:28.580 I asked my dad, will you go to therapy?

02:32:29.800 He goes, what's in it for me?

02:32:31.260 Like, you know, that like society is, especially in America, like, well, what, what am I going

02:32:35.780 to get out of it?

02:32:36.620 But I truly believe with my corny little heart that there's people out there that just want

02:32:42.260 to be like, I'll help my neighbor or, you know, I'll do the right thing.

02:32:48.920 Don't they do that now then?

02:32:50.320 Hey, we still have a choice.

02:32:53.100 Yeah.

02:32:53.120 But do they do that now?

02:32:54.700 Because if they do that now, then what do you need communism for anyway?

02:32:57.840 If that's just the natural inclination of everybody to do what's nice and neat to everybody.

02:33:02.700 If more people could afford to do the right thing, I think more people would.

02:33:06.280 But sometimes doing the right thing isn't always affordable.

02:33:09.820 What, who can't afford to do the right thing?

02:33:12.120 Like you, not everyone can afford to like give the homeless man change or not everyone can

02:33:16.600 like give someone a sweatshirt off their back.

02:33:19.280 But if you can't afford to give a homeless man change, and so you don't, you haven't

02:33:22.640 done the wrong thing.

02:33:24.560 So the thing is, is when you're talking, when you're talking about the right thing, you're

02:33:28.100 saying, I just believe in my heart that basically everybody really wants to do the right thing.

02:33:35.360 Yes.

02:33:35.780 Then in capitalism, is everybody basically doing the right thing?

02:33:39.360 Group one motorsports donated $200.

02:33:42.700 Under communism, no free college, no free speech, no free anything.

02:33:47.920 No idea why people think communism is somehow going to be this existence where they do nothing

02:33:53.160 they do not want to.

02:33:54.760 Grow the F up.

02:33:57.000 Yeah, I'm just saying the people's nature shouldn't change between communism and capitalism.

02:34:00.660 What would be the change in the nature?

02:34:03.320 Survival.

02:34:04.040 Yeah, survival.

02:34:04.560 The change is...

02:34:05.080 Literally, like, I've been homeless before, and when I've been homeless, my instinct,

02:34:11.100 that's increasing, increasing day by day, and there's people that don't even have five

02:34:15.300 to a hundred dollars in their bank account for a rainy day.

02:34:17.860 Increasing.

02:34:18.160 Wait, I've got a question, I've got a question.

02:34:20.500 You guys all have...

02:34:22.740 What's going on?

02:34:24.900 What?

02:34:25.160 Oh, it's just hard for me to sit for such a long time.

02:34:27.320 I'm back in the back.

02:34:28.760 Can I be in the back?

02:34:29.640 Nickelodeon donated $200.

02:34:31.520 Can I move in the back?

02:34:32.140 One day in my communist utopia.

02:34:34.260 Jennifer Lawrence will be my wife, and you women would stop saying such absurd things.

02:34:40.540 And Myra would grab Brixen by the hair and throw him against the wall.

02:34:44.780 Oh.

02:34:45.320 One day.

02:34:45.800 Okay, all right.

02:34:48.700 Nickelodeon, thank you very much.

02:34:50.020 There's another one that's about to come in, so I'm just waiting for it.

02:34:52.940 It's just one after the other.

02:34:55.180 Thank you, Nickelodeon.

02:34:56.260 Appreciate it, man.

02:34:56.900 Thank you, Grid1.

02:34:57.800 Thank you, Modest Hikama.

02:35:00.360 That's about to...

02:35:01.200 Oh, Flamlife.

02:35:01.760 Thanks for the gifted five memberships.

02:35:04.960 Hold on.

02:35:05.440 It's about to trigger.

02:35:06.200 One sec, guys.

02:35:07.280 Yo, Flamlife.

02:35:07.860 Thank you, dude.

02:35:08.260 Modest Hikama donated $200.

02:35:12.060 Do you really think you would thrive under comm?

02:35:15.300 Panel, when on a third date and I ask, what is your view on the conflict in the Middle East?

02:35:20.860 What is your answer?

02:35:22.140 Oh, my God.

02:35:22.440 If Brixen redirects, he loves Hamas.

02:35:24.860 I mean, I don't think anyone would survive under current communism in other countries and how we've painted out communism to be.

02:35:38.080 And conflict in the Middle East is different to everybody, you know?

02:35:42.480 I think there's a way that there's a neutral, weirdly a neutral side.

02:35:48.960 I have friends that are very free Palestine, and I have friends that will, like, take a bullet for Israel, and I can somehow land in the middle, so...

02:35:57.220 A question for you.

02:35:58.520 So, in communism, and look, I'm not...

02:36:01.900 This is not a topic I'm particularly well-versed in, but in communism, would there...

02:36:06.620 Let's say nobody wanted to do a certain job.

02:36:10.780 Okay.

02:36:11.620 Would there be an authority that would force people to do a certain job?

02:36:17.280 Like, let's say there was a necessary job that just had to be done.

02:36:20.380 I think by nature, people would eventually see how bad the problem's getting and then bond together to fix it if it really got that bad.

02:36:28.380 But what if nobody wanted to become a good brain surgeon or something?

02:36:32.560 Well, I mean, in this situation, then we're fucked.

02:36:33.760 Saints on the score, easy donated $200.

02:36:35.680 Oh, thank you, Saint Rizzi.

02:36:36.460 Kiki, as much as I try to fight it, I'm no match for you.

02:36:40.700 You've won my heart now and forever.

02:36:43.820 It will.

02:36:45.660 Okay.

02:36:47.280 Thank you, Saint Rizzi.

02:36:48.440 Appreciate it.

02:36:49.840 Oh, we have Grid One coming in here.

02:36:52.480 Wait.

02:36:53.020 Oh, question related to...

02:36:55.280 Hold on.

02:36:56.020 It's...

02:36:56.600 Grid One's about to come.

02:36:58.640 Nick, really...

02:36:59.860 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever drug...

02:37:01.640 Oh, wait.

02:37:01.900 Too late.

02:37:02.220 Too late.

02:37:02.540 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.

02:37:06.400 Last on the subject, communism sucks the life out of everything it touches.

02:37:11.220 If you cannot handle money or make money, it's your fault.

02:37:14.620 But the opportunity is there for all.

02:37:17.160 I grew up dirt poor.

02:37:18.640 Now I am not.

02:37:19.600 Now he's not.

02:37:20.480 Grid One.

02:37:21.080 There you go.

02:37:22.020 And same for Andrew.

02:37:23.280 Question.

02:37:24.460 For you guys.

02:37:26.420 Under communism, and I don't know, maybe some of you don't want communism, I don't know.

02:37:30.180 All of you do OnlyFans, correct?

02:37:33.560 Would you...

02:37:34.080 Under communism, would you continue to...

02:37:36.820 Would you do OnlyFans under communism?

02:37:38.900 Would you be able to, what do I mean?

02:37:40.720 Swordless.

02:37:42.200 Would you want to?

02:37:43.380 I don't know.

02:37:43.800 I'm just curious.

02:37:44.980 Well, I mean, I...

02:37:48.200 Still do?

02:37:49.360 You'll make money from it, right?

02:37:51.040 Would you...

02:37:51.460 I don't think you'd make money.

02:37:52.760 Well, I'm not a...

02:37:53.420 I'm not a communist, so...

02:37:54.040 So all the OnlyFans would just be...

02:37:55.260 Would the OnlyFans...

02:37:55.860 It'd just be free?

02:37:56.880 There's like no charge for the OnlyFans.

02:37:59.140 I mean, yeah, I guess if that's something I really like enjoyed doing to that extent...

02:38:03.720 Thank you for that.

02:38:04.320 I right now just see OnlyFans as like a job and not so much like, oh, this fun thing.

02:38:09.720 Okay.

02:38:10.180 How much porn do you think would be reduced?

02:38:12.820 What do you mean?

02:38:13.220 It would be...

02:38:14.180 I don't do porn on OnlyFans.

02:38:15.120 It'd be like 1% left of it or less.

02:38:19.220 Not everyone does porn on OnlyFans, though.

02:38:22.480 No, I'm just...

02:38:23.580 I'm not even talking about just...

02:38:25.000 Wait, under communism, is it like only jobs that...

02:38:28.440 Have some sort of...

02:38:30.640 Yeah.

02:38:30.860 I don't know.

02:38:31.300 I'm not...

02:38:31.480 Doing OnlyFans probably would that really exist under communism?

02:38:36.280 Would it?

02:38:36.760 Really?

02:38:37.240 I mean, if you just really love...

02:38:39.160 I think...

02:38:39.320 Would makeup...

02:38:40.100 Like, would there be no makeup on?

02:38:41.420 Because like, there's not really...

02:38:42.540 There would probably be makeup.

02:38:42.980 There is makeup for Native Americans.

02:38:43.780 Perhaps to make it.

02:38:45.360 Like, perhaps to go to the chemical plant to make women's makeup.

02:38:48.160 They don't have to make it.

02:38:48.980 I mean, you could do it with berries or like natural dyes.

02:38:52.700 That's what they used to do.

02:38:53.660 Oh, shit.

02:38:54.020 Like, what do you think Native Americans used to do?

02:38:55.780 I didn't know that.

02:38:56.080 Like, it's not just for like, oh, men's gays.

02:38:58.280 Yeah, but who's going to get all the berries for you to put it all over your face?

02:39:00.940 Go outside.

02:39:01.240 Why don't I go fucking do it, though?

02:39:02.500 Forge in the...

02:39:03.000 Let's go.

02:39:03.640 Well, I mean, if you live in the middle...

02:39:04.700 Like, let's pretend you live in the middle of the city.

02:39:06.620 Like, where are you going to get your fucking berries for your makeup?

02:39:08.440 You know what I mean?

02:39:09.180 You probably...

02:39:10.000 Do you think that a minute ago you said that it's the way that communism is happening?

02:39:17.940 Oh, my God.

02:39:18.600 Thank you, Modest.

02:39:19.540 Thank you.

02:39:20.180 Go ahead.

02:39:20.220 The way that communism is happening in other countries...

02:39:23.180 Yeah.

02:39:23.600 Wouldn't you be, like, tend to believe that that would be the way it would continue on?

02:39:30.060 Like, why would it be different in your communist utopia?

02:39:33.020 Well, I think there's just a lot of, like, things backed up politically in all those different

02:39:41.600 countries that have communism that...

02:39:43.520 Right, but why would they be different in yours?

02:39:46.160 And how?

02:39:46.720 Because I think communism isn't just about, like, putting the power in, like, one...

02:39:53.180 Like, when I see other communist countries, even though it's supposed to be, like, for the

02:39:56.720 people, you usually see, like, one kind of, like, dictator or something.

02:40:00.120 But why?

02:40:00.700 Like, why is it like that?

02:40:03.020 Like, politics, eugenics, racism?

02:40:09.000 I'm just asking, because...

02:40:10.340 Well, no, it's like that, because the reason you always have to have a strong man, you have

02:40:14.340 to have force in those nations, is because they have to compel services from people who

02:40:17.780 would not ordinarily give them unless they were paid.

02:40:21.180 That's why.

02:40:21.880 That's why you always have a strong-arm authoritarianism inside of communism to the point of ridiculousness,

02:40:27.660 is because how do you get medical services from people who don't want to give them to

02:40:32.200 you unless you pay them?

02:40:33.680 Like, how do you do that without compelling them to do it?

02:40:35.820 My friends that are nurses don't want to be, like...

02:40:39.520 The thing that makes it nice to be a nurse is that you get paid so much money.

02:40:43.520 Right, exactly.

02:40:44.100 That's what I'm saying.

02:40:44.640 That's the thing that people like about it.

02:40:46.480 Here, let's start.

02:40:46.960 There are no nurses in your communism.

02:40:48.540 Like, who wants to go wipe an old man's butt?

02:40:50.880 What about janitors?

02:40:53.040 What about janitors?

02:40:54.380 No one likes to wipe old people's butt, but if it's something like you're talking about

02:40:57.900 an obligation or a duty, then you do it.

02:41:01.260 You just man the fuck up, and you do it.

02:41:04.300 Right, an obligation or a duty, but an obligation or a duty is not a thing that you guys, when

02:41:08.780 I asked everybody at this table, basically...

02:41:10.640 I feel like she only answered that question.

02:41:11.980 The same question.

02:41:13.140 For obligation and duties, I think that your kind of threshold there is that you don't really

02:41:18.220 think that there's that much in the way of obligation or duty in comparison to kind of

02:41:23.320 the...

02:41:25.080 I can't even...

02:41:25.740 I don't even know if I can say it, so I'm just not going to, but whatever I would deem

02:41:28.800 like degenerate behavior, right?

02:41:31.440 You don't have any duty.

02:41:32.960 Do you have any duty to not do any form of degenerate behavior?

02:41:36.000 That would be the question.

02:41:38.080 So reasons not to do degenerate shit?

02:41:41.340 Yeah, and what degenerate means in this is without morals.

02:41:45.040 It means without morals.

02:41:47.320 Yeah.

02:41:47.720 Yeah, loads.

02:41:48.340 Yeah, loads of stuff that you should move against?

02:41:51.500 I mean, reasons why I have those duties or like, yeah, I mean, I have godchildren, I don't

02:42:02.520 have much family, like...

02:42:03.880 Now, if somebody doesn't want to do one of those duties, this is the question, would you

02:42:10.460 make them?

02:42:12.160 I don't think you can really like make it.

02:42:13.980 You can be disappointed.

02:42:15.720 You can just like...

02:42:16.360 But then inside of your paradigm, if we apply the same thing and say, okay, you think people

02:42:20.740 have duties to do this and then they don't, well, nothing gets done, right?

02:42:26.160 That's why we call it...

02:42:26.860 That's why I'm calling it a utopia, because do I think that will actually exist?

02:42:30.560 No.

02:42:31.940 If it was supposed to work the way it's what the framework is and not the leaderships and

02:42:37.840 the politics.

02:42:38.360 Where everybody had to do the horrible job except you, right?

02:42:42.280 Everybody but you.

02:42:45.620 All right.

02:42:46.140 No.

02:42:47.140 I feel like I'm the one to do the most horrible job.

02:42:50.200 Well, if we did have communism, would you, would you take the job of working in the sewers?

02:42:55.440 Sorry.

02:42:56.360 If I had to.

02:42:57.740 If you had to.

02:42:58.480 If you had to.

02:42:58.960 If I, like, if I felt like the people in my village or town or whatever weren't like

02:43:05.240 standing the fuck up.

02:43:06.480 Hold on.

02:43:08.360 Here, after this I'm going to move on.

02:43:09.660 The shopping cart is the ultimate litmus test for whether a person is capable of self-governing.

02:43:13.960 If you can't depend on PPA to return their shopping cart, how can you count on them to

02:43:18.920 do right?

02:43:20.080 That's a good question.

02:43:20.740 That's very true.

02:43:21.420 I always put my shopping cart back.

02:43:22.580 That is true Raven DT.

02:43:24.200 It must have lost capitalism that's preventing them from returning the shopping cart.

02:43:27.040 What we need is Farha to chip her up a little bit.

02:43:29.560 Stop sulking in the corner there.

02:43:31.520 Are there still cookies on the table?

02:43:33.040 I'm kind of hungry.

02:43:34.220 Are you hungry?

02:43:35.200 Are there still cookies?

02:43:36.120 Yeah, I don't think they've even...

02:43:37.380 Can I walk around, please?

02:43:39.180 Wait.

02:43:39.660 I'm feeling really restless.

02:43:40.920 Just recess.

02:43:41.240 Just wait.

02:43:41.760 Just a sec because we will give you more attention.

02:43:43.760 I know we will...

02:43:44.340 No, no, no.

02:43:44.360 It's not attention.

02:43:45.000 Like, really, it's my back.

02:43:45.960 I can be still in a frame in here.

02:43:47.720 Is that okay?

02:43:48.240 Do you want to do jumping jacks or something?

02:43:49.680 Yeah.

02:43:50.120 Something like that.

02:43:51.000 Or maybe just...

02:43:52.260 I think the audience would be okay with that.

02:43:54.320 Freebies.

02:43:55.300 Give me a massage.

02:43:57.280 You want to give me a massage?

02:43:58.800 No, I'm not...

02:43:59.440 I mean, if you want to stand behind me and give me or...

02:44:03.860 Well, I don't think...

02:44:04.520 No, maybe not Andrew, but...

02:44:06.120 So no cookies or...

02:44:08.800 Yeah, they're over there on the table.

02:44:09.800 They're over there if you need to get...

02:44:11.000 Well, you're both going to excuse yourself?

02:44:12.860 I'll bring the cookies.

02:44:13.480 I asked first.

02:44:14.260 The nice lady brought the cookies.

02:44:15.140 Oh, I guess you can eat them here if that works.

02:44:17.260 Okay.

02:44:17.680 Here, I'm going to do some chats, guys.

02:44:19.720 Yo, Savage Chipmunk.

02:44:20.940 Let's remove women's right to choose who they date altogether.

02:44:24.060 They have no idea as to what a high-value man is in the first place,

02:44:26.960 and they don't even use their brains.

02:44:29.580 What?

02:44:30.160 I don't know if I...

02:44:31.320 I'm not sure I agree with you on that one, brother.

02:44:33.380 Okay.

02:44:34.780 Harem Life, Enthrio...

02:44:35.980 Okay, brother.

02:44:36.780 Okay, that's a little much.

02:44:38.200 Tens grass.

02:44:39.280 All right.

02:44:39.800 We have Doc Venables here.

02:44:42.380 Why is she coming this way?

02:44:44.100 These actually are so dope.

02:44:45.880 They look like silk.

02:44:47.300 Are you...

02:44:47.700 Or orange?

02:44:48.600 Which one?

02:44:48.980 I think...

02:44:49.880 Wait, what are you doing over there?

02:44:51.880 She's the hungry one.

02:44:53.400 She's one of the hosts.

02:44:55.560 Oh, my God.

02:44:56.260 Okay.

02:44:56.700 In communist Cuba, doctors are slave labor and get paid $50 a month.

02:44:59.860 Cab drivers make more money.

02:45:01.340 My apologies to the Amish.

02:45:02.580 They live freely.

02:45:03.860 You're welcome.

02:45:04.320 Yo, thank you, Doc Venables.

02:45:05.400 Thank you, man.

02:45:05.760 Appreciate it.

02:45:06.300 Okay.

02:45:06.700 I've got some pre-show notes here.

02:45:09.180 Oh, did you want to address that really quick?

02:45:10.600 I'd like to try to move on.

02:45:11.520 All right.

02:45:12.080 I'll take one more.

02:45:12.760 Wait, what?

02:45:15.280 What?

02:45:15.580 Oh, cute.

02:45:17.540 You also said, kind of not related to this, that feminist...

02:45:23.080 You consider yourself a feminist with traditional elements.

02:45:26.260 Yeah.

02:45:28.080 Oh, my God.

02:45:28.840 These are going to be so fucking noisy.

02:45:30.540 Okay.

02:45:31.340 Can you guys really not just chill for the...

02:45:35.760 Are you really that hungry?

02:45:38.260 Yeah.

02:45:39.040 Okay.

02:45:39.500 All right.

02:45:40.180 Just try to be quiet when you're opening these.

02:45:42.760 Just get rid of the plastic.

02:45:45.640 It's probably fine.

02:45:47.460 So, you say a feminist with traditional elements.

02:45:50.980 I'm just curious, what are the traditional elements?

02:45:53.660 So, like, when I date a man, like, that is something where I think I value more a traditional

02:46:00.160 sense of, like, um...

02:46:03.480 Like, we talked masculinity and femininity.

02:46:05.620 I'm sorry.

02:46:06.100 I know it keeps interrupting you.

02:46:07.420 I know.

02:46:07.580 I'm sorry.

02:46:08.420 I know it keeps interrupting you.

02:46:09.320 If communism is so great, why so many migrants from communist countries to the USA?

02:46:15.340 That's a good point.

02:46:15.700 Do you want to move to China and live under Jinping?

02:46:18.900 No.

02:46:19.460 Hashtag feminism is cancer.

02:46:21.120 Sorry, Brickson.

02:46:22.200 We just haven't done it this right yet.

02:46:24.120 We haven't done it the right way this time.

02:46:26.240 We haven't done it the right way yet.

02:46:27.660 That's the whole problem every time, right?

02:46:30.220 Yeah.

02:46:30.820 But so, you said when it comes to dating, you prefer some of the more traditional elements

02:46:34.380 with men.

02:46:35.080 So, just...

02:46:35.340 Yeah.

02:46:35.600 What are some of those?

02:46:36.860 So, like, for example, like, I feel like I don't mind the whole, like, cooking, cleaning,

02:46:42.960 uh, the...

02:46:44.700 I guess you would say, like, the modern housewife kind of bit, right?

02:46:48.780 But I also think that comes with, like, a man who can provide and, like, take care of

02:46:53.580 the other things while I do those things.

02:46:55.820 Whereas, like, today, so many guys are like, I want a traditional housewife.

02:46:59.880 That has a full-time job and pays half the bills and, like...

02:47:04.200 So, I still am interested in some traditional values.

02:47:08.880 But, I mean, like, for example, I think men should be allowed to, like, express their emotions

02:47:14.940 and cry and have that.

02:47:16.540 But I also think, like, if we're talking about masculinity these days, or more so, like, LA,

02:47:21.740 guys are, like, act more like women.

02:47:23.620 I'm sorry that they keep interrupting.

02:47:25.020 It keeps interrupting.

02:47:25.720 Can we move on?

02:47:26.840 The circus wants its tent back and it is obvious this 304 is just spewing stuff someone told

02:47:33.580 her while she was high.

02:47:35.240 Question for the panel.

02:47:36.660 How low should you bow to your man?

02:47:38.540 I mean, what's he bringing to the table?

02:47:42.960 Like, I think that's a problem.

02:47:46.360 The what's he bringing to the table.

02:47:47.940 Kind of like...

02:47:48.380 Well, that's getting asked to girls all the time.

02:47:50.760 I've literally been told I work too much.

02:47:52.300 I make too much more money than a man.

02:47:54.160 Like, I've personally encountered men that were threatened by, like, how nice my apartment

02:47:59.940 was, how much money I made, and this and that.

02:48:03.160 And although, like...

02:48:03.940 I don't think men are threatened, feel threatened by that.

02:48:07.300 Okay.

02:48:08.060 I will say it's...

02:48:10.680 Some men, if you're insecure, that can make you uncomfortable because we have put a lot

02:48:15.560 of pressure on a man to provide, and in turn, that means providing financially.

02:48:20.820 And so sometimes, sometimes, not every single guy, but some men are intimidated by if you

02:48:29.100 make more money than them.

02:48:29.920 And it...

02:48:30.800 I don't know if she's saying that that makes her better than you.

02:48:34.760 Not every man I've dated, but there's definitely been a handful that were just, like, intimidated.

02:48:38.560 Like, oh, I didn't have this apartment when I was your age.

02:48:42.140 Or, oh, like, why are you always working?

02:48:44.520 When are you going to make time for me?

02:48:46.340 But, like...

02:48:47.380 I think that veers off your comment, though, about what he brings to the table.

02:48:51.860 Because if it was the other way around, I don't agree with that either.

02:48:55.760 Like, what does she bring to the table?

02:48:57.360 Because, and not to say that...

02:49:00.600 You go off, sis.

02:49:01.500 Let it all out.

02:49:02.520 Well, not...

02:49:02.960 I'm just saying that maybe in regard to her going on 100 dates in two months, that maybe

02:49:09.040 whatever she's looking for is outside of the realm of that...

02:49:16.600 Like an average person?

02:49:19.020 Or even an above-average person, or...

02:49:24.020 I don't know if you were going to say something.

02:49:26.600 I think power dynamic is very important.

02:49:28.840 So, whenever a woman starts making more than a man, or providing more when it comes to, like,

02:49:34.480 relationship or household, etc., the question comes, like, what is the man for, then?

02:49:42.040 That there has to be some type of balance, right?

02:49:44.380 That has to be something that he's giving back.

02:49:46.920 And then again, traditional ways, which you probably will agree, they suffer too.

02:49:51.140 Because if woman is the provider, doesn't she become the dominant one in the relationship?

02:49:58.400 Yeah, I don't think it's a power dynamic thing.

02:50:01.360 See, I would say the opposite.

02:50:03.260 I'd say that there's a different preference between different sexes for the things that

02:50:07.100 they value in the other sex.

02:50:09.020 And so, in this particular case, I don't think that men value for women for the amount of

02:50:13.760 money they make.

02:50:14.240 I don't think they give a shit about that.

02:50:15.460 I don't think they've ever cared about that.

02:50:17.200 There might be some men that you can point to, but that's always the case, right?

02:50:20.500 There's some men you can point to who might value this particular thing, but in general,

02:50:24.860 that's not what they value.

02:50:26.000 Do women value better men?

02:50:26.460 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:50:27.180 Hold on, hold on.

02:50:27.680 You had quite a big reaction to what he just said.

02:50:30.200 I mean, there's so many guys in LA, what we call hobosexuals, that are literally just

02:50:34.540 like living in their car on Tinder, hinge, whatever it is, just to fuck every night so

02:50:40.100 that they have a place to sleep.

02:50:41.520 Like, they very much care.

02:50:42.560 But I don't think in one of the worst metropolitan progressive mecca cesspools, which has ever

02:50:48.840 existed, that's comparing the men there to, you know, this really small sample size to,

02:50:56.640 well, to just men on average globally.

02:50:58.580 Like, just think about this globally.

02:51:00.220 Clearly, if you look at the traditions of mankind, were women the providers?

02:51:07.680 No.

02:51:08.200 Kind of.

02:51:09.160 No.

02:51:09.740 Not financially.

02:51:11.000 Well, oh, yeah.

02:51:11.680 No, I mean, just not at all.

02:51:13.120 I mean.

02:51:13.680 They were not the providers for the family.

02:51:15.480 But they're providers of cooking, cleaning, keeping the family together.

02:51:19.280 We're talking financially.

02:51:20.380 Yeah, yeah.

02:51:20.620 So we are talking financially.

02:51:21.680 Well, no, it's even hunter-gatherer.

02:51:23.680 If you were to take a hunter-gatherer society, who are the hunters?

02:51:27.180 And who are the gatherers?

02:51:28.440 Didn't women used to gather, bury their shit?

02:51:30.280 Yes, the women gathered and the men hunted, right?

02:51:33.520 But you need one without, like.

02:51:35.240 Yeah, but when we say, like, who's bringing home the bacon, that's literally what we mean

02:51:39.660 is the hard job is to go and kill the pig and take it home.

02:51:43.200 And the easy job is maintaining the home.

02:51:45.080 That's the easy job.

02:51:46.620 Getting the pig, that's the hard job.

02:51:48.580 Why do you guys think maintaining a home is just so easy compared to just going outside

02:51:53.060 and, like.

02:51:54.120 It's easier.

02:51:54.940 First of all, women don't.

02:51:56.200 Did you do it right?

02:51:56.920 Women don't maintain the home.

02:51:59.720 What they do is they look after children who are inside the home.

02:52:03.140 They do some cooking and cleaning.

02:52:04.140 They don't patch the roof.

02:52:05.160 Okay, this is.

02:52:05.920 You are just.

02:52:06.800 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:52:07.820 Girl 2- have you ever been asked, why are you bigger than me?

02:52:12.120 Why do you not go to the gym?

02:52:14.180 Why do you not care for yourself?

02:52:16.160 Why do you not care for your body?

02:52:19.020 Response?

02:52:19.980 Point.

02:52:20.240 I mean, if you want to address it.

02:52:21.740 Okay, we can't address it.

02:52:22.760 Yeah.

02:52:23.320 No, literally.

02:52:24.220 Life story.

02:52:25.760 Why are you bigger than me?

02:52:27.640 No, I've never been asked that by a guy that was actually sexually interested in me or dated

02:52:31.960 me.

02:52:32.700 Why do you not go to the gym?

02:52:34.120 Just because I'm fat doesn't mean I don't go to the gym.

02:52:37.700 I'm sorry.

02:52:38.360 You guys are insane.

02:52:40.360 Go to my Instagram profile.

02:52:41.740 Now you'll see me stop.

02:52:44.180 I am retired so she wins.

02:52:46.740 Does not change a thing about our relationship.

02:52:50.000 I am the patriarch.

02:52:51.400 She is the matriarch.

02:52:52.760 Agreed.

02:52:53.020 Grid 1 Motorsports is a representative.

02:52:56.000 But it sounds like he can still let his wife live in femininity.

02:53:00.160 And that's a big thing of like power structure and like that ultimate like the masculine and

02:53:05.820 the feminine.

02:53:06.640 Like femininity can't bloom when you're forced to have masculine duties.

02:53:10.960 Yeah, but you prefer, you said earlier you prefer dominant men.

02:53:14.960 Yes.

02:53:15.380 Okay.

02:53:15.840 But do you think that those men prefer dominant women?

02:53:20.260 No.

02:53:20.680 And do you think that men are generally.

02:53:21.520 And that's why I'm very submissive in my relationships.

02:53:23.380 Yeah, but do you think that in general that men prefer dominant women?

02:53:26.740 So like if men, if women or men really wanted masculine traits in women, why wouldn't they

02:53:31.400 just go for men?

02:53:32.540 I mean, some of them should.

02:53:34.240 A lot of y'all.

02:53:34.800 Some of y'all.

02:53:35.040 Very, very, very, very few of them do.

02:53:38.680 They obviously want the feminine part, not the masculine part.

02:53:42.980 Yeah.

02:53:43.440 Yeah.

02:53:43.740 So this is my question for you is like, since you, it's your own experience that this is

02:53:48.900 what you prefer and the men that you have around you don't prefer that.

02:53:53.040 Yes.

02:53:53.480 Then why would you make the assumption that this is somehow the dynamic is completely

02:53:58.320 180 for everybody else?

02:54:02.660 Sorry.

02:54:03.260 Can you say that again?

02:54:04.180 Yeah.

02:54:04.400 So if when he's going around, he's asking, do you prefer like a dominant man to a non-dominant

02:54:11.240 man?

02:54:11.500 Do you think most women prefer to have a man who's more dominant?

02:54:15.220 Yes.

02:54:15.780 Okay.

02:54:16.080 So I would agree with that.

02:54:17.560 Okay.

02:54:17.900 Okay.

02:54:18.400 You would agree with that.

02:54:19.640 Yes.

02:54:19.940 So what is the man's preference then?

02:54:22.140 What's he looking for?

02:54:23.400 Is he looking for a dominant woman?

02:54:25.460 No, but I think, I think no, but I think a lot of that has to do with like, again, the

02:54:31.040 current like time we live in where girls are forced to be more masculine and.

02:54:38.140 Well, how are they forced to be more masculine?

02:54:40.140 Um, you know, providing like, there's not as much of like, a lot of, most girls have

02:54:47.540 to like, go get a job, provide for themselves versus like before you could like marry.

02:54:52.340 Am I not saying anything?

02:54:54.480 I'm just saying in the past, as a woman, you were expected to like marry someone and that's

02:54:59.500 how you secure yourself.

02:55:00.500 Now you're expected as a woman to go get a job, make, make, make money for yourself.

02:55:05.280 But all of y'all are single.

02:55:06.160 Yeah, that's the thing I don't get about it.

02:55:09.620 Y'all are all single.

02:55:10.480 So you're choosing to do that.

02:55:12.740 Yes.

02:55:13.200 Choosing what?

02:55:14.020 Choosing to get your money and get your, provide for yourself because you don't have

02:55:18.420 a choice.

02:55:19.320 I mean.

02:55:20.440 I mean, that's what I'm literally saying.

02:55:22.700 You do have a choice.

02:55:22.840 That's what I'm literally saying is that there is.

02:55:25.140 You do have a choice.

02:55:25.680 She's been on a hundred dates and has been on maybe three or four.

02:55:29.020 I was about to say, there's always a choice.

02:55:30.840 She could be with someone she doesn't like and never do anything.

02:55:34.160 But why, why are none of those a hundred men worthy of dating her?

02:55:38.560 Because she don't like them.

02:55:39.960 Why she got to like them?

02:55:40.960 She's got to know her standards a little bit.

02:55:43.360 What I'm saying is you're, you're.

02:55:45.080 Sometimes.

02:55:45.660 I think guys used to be.

02:55:47.160 I don't even agree with that.

02:55:48.380 I think guys used to be more providers and it was more like a common, like popular thing,

02:55:54.280 especially as we like 50, 60, 70s.

02:55:56.820 Maybe this is also just like.

02:55:58.420 No, I mean always.

02:55:59.480 Sorry.

02:55:59.700 I'm trying to like get to like, cause I agree.

02:56:01.940 Right.

02:56:02.240 No.

02:56:02.440 And I, I think, I think we're just speaking about how y'all are living your lives versus

02:56:07.400 how me and the people that I know live our lives is just very different.

02:56:11.100 And like the women and the men, like, but I don't know if I'm choosing to be single,

02:56:16.260 but like, I don't know.

02:56:17.400 So if I wanted to be with, have you ever had a job before?

02:56:20.240 Have you ever worked?

02:56:20.780 You have a job.

02:56:21.860 If like, so if I wanted to be with those guys, I should have made less money then.

02:56:27.000 Or like, no, I'm saying like, it can be, it's the best of both worlds is what I'm saying.

02:56:31.460 Hold on.

02:56:31.720 Let me, where did this stem from this conversation?

02:56:33.640 I think, cause we were talking about, you're being a feminist, masculine versus feminist.

02:56:37.640 You're a feminist, but you like traditional elements.

02:56:39.880 I think they're choosing to be masculine.

02:56:40.120 That's what I'm saying.

02:56:40.800 You're choosing to live in your masculine.

02:56:42.400 Like, how am I masculine?

02:56:43.740 Well, no.

02:56:44.000 I'm not saying you are.

02:56:44.840 Okay.

02:56:45.120 Hold on.

02:56:45.900 Hold on.

02:56:46.200 I'm just saying that you're, that you're saying that the men are, that you're encountering or

02:56:50.860 being around are not providers and they're hoboing.

02:56:54.440 Not.

02:56:54.860 No, no, no.

02:56:55.220 Most guys, I'm not going to lie.

02:56:56.640 I, because I live in LA, so there's already, that's what I'm saying.

02:56:59.600 I haven't dated the hobosexuals, but I have friends that have.

02:57:02.720 I don't, I don't know what that even means.

02:57:04.420 Like, that's what I'm saying.

02:57:05.340 Like, we are just on tune.

02:57:06.500 They just bum off women, basically, I'm guessing.

02:57:08.180 Yeah.

02:57:08.400 Yeah.

02:57:08.840 I don't know even though.

02:57:09.160 I feel like that's the exception.

02:57:11.340 That's the real thing.

02:57:12.120 No, like, I literally knew a guy that was like modeling for Adidas, but he was like sleeping

02:57:15.940 in his car.

02:57:17.100 Okay.

02:57:17.580 How frequently is that really occurring?

02:57:20.480 I don't even think it's working.

02:57:21.420 Very frequently.

02:57:21.820 But in LA.

02:57:22.580 Major cities.

02:57:23.560 In LA.

02:57:23.760 So he would, like, what you were saying earlier, like, the average, like, yeah.

02:57:26.680 Okay.

02:57:26.700 If you go on, let me ask you a question.

02:57:28.240 If you go on 10 dates.

02:57:29.720 Okay.

02:57:30.000 Which proportion of them are these hobosexuals?

02:57:32.680 I would argue it's less than one.

02:57:34.020 Oh, for me.

02:57:34.420 It's like 20%.

02:57:34.760 It's like 20%.

02:57:35.060 Maybe one.

02:57:35.920 20.

02:57:36.320 I would say, yeah.

02:57:36.800 20.

02:57:36.960 And I've written six months in LA.

02:57:38.080 I don't blame them.

02:57:39.260 But you've never even encountered it.

02:57:40.900 Out of my friend group?

02:57:42.340 Okay.

02:57:42.580 Me personally?

02:57:43.440 You haven't encountered it.

02:57:44.480 Zero.

02:57:44.780 But your friend group, what?

02:57:46.020 It's just dozens of...

02:57:46.280 I'm not as relaxed as my friends.

02:57:48.460 Like, they're, like, more trusting.

02:57:49.700 But here.

02:57:50.020 Okay.

02:57:50.160 Let's get...

02:57:50.840 The hobosexual thing is ridiculous, and I don't feel like...

02:57:53.460 It's just such an outlier situation.

02:57:55.420 Okay.

02:57:55.600 It's not even worth talking about.

02:57:56.720 But you said you're feminist with traditional elements.

02:57:59.120 You made a big kind of grimace when he said that men don't really care about women's provisioning.

02:58:03.660 Is that surprising to you, that men are not really preoccupied with women's provisioning?

02:58:08.980 They've never cared about it.

02:58:10.160 But I think then that, for me, that would just tell me that you're a secure man.

02:58:14.600 No, no, no.

02:58:15.000 That's most men don't care about it.

02:58:17.700 Modest Hikima donated $200.

02:58:21.000 Hi, my name is Modest Hikima.

02:58:23.780 My plan is to find a woman to provide for and protect.

02:58:27.620 What is the point of dating someone that is a hobosexual?

02:58:31.400 That is legit a bleeding red flag.

02:58:33.760 Yes.

02:58:34.000 Agreed.

02:58:34.260 That's beautiful.

02:58:34.920 That's beautiful.

02:58:35.420 Go ahead with your point.

02:58:37.080 Sorry, wait.

02:58:38.040 ADHD.

02:58:38.760 Yeah, so we were getting into this exchange.

02:58:41.180 I was saying most men, what they value is they don't value women because women give

02:58:47.080 them stuff.

02:58:47.960 That's not why men value women.

02:58:49.560 They don't give a shit about that for the most part.

02:58:51.560 They don't care.

02:58:52.440 Women do.

02:58:54.660 What do you guys value?

02:58:55.680 But that's...

02:58:56.320 It's not even our stuff.

02:58:58.280 We're trying to get your stuff to maintain.

02:59:01.640 Right.

02:59:01.960 You want to get...

02:59:02.760 So the value here is that men value different things than women value.

02:59:09.120 Okay.

02:59:09.520 So we're not interchangeable widgets.

02:59:11.120 There's things that women generally want.

02:59:12.820 There's things that men generally want.

02:59:14.580 So women generally want materialism sources, things like this.

02:59:18.820 Here's an example of how you can kind of tell this.

02:59:21.040 So if you look at female voting patterns, they mostly vote for security more than they do

02:59:28.240 for the expansion of freedom.

02:59:29.940 Okay.

02:59:30.360 Almost always.

02:59:31.460 Whereas men kind of will vote the opposite way.

02:59:34.340 Okay.

02:59:34.820 Or at least there was a historic trend of doing that.

02:59:36.760 They would almost vote the opposite way where they'll vote to kind of expand freedom in lieu

02:59:40.960 of security.

02:59:41.520 So one of the things that can maybe kind of tell you is that, so what are women valuing here?

02:59:49.140 Right?

02:59:49.500 They're valuing security.

02:59:51.620 Yes.

02:59:52.720 Men, not so much.

02:59:54.120 So the security comes from the material, the stuff, the house, the job, the stability, all of that.

03:00:00.720 Those are the things that they value.

03:00:02.740 Men, not so much.

03:00:04.020 They don't care about any of that from a woman.

03:00:05.960 They don't care if a woman's bringing home the bacon.

03:00:08.720 They don't care if they're bringing home the money.

03:00:09.740 They don't care about any of that.

03:00:10.580 I don't know.

03:00:10.840 Watching my dad, he was always so angry and passive aggressive and horrible to my mom

03:00:15.300 because she was the breadwinner.

03:00:16.580 Yeah, but he's just, if any time we talk about this, you just kind of point to the outlier,

03:00:21.820 right?

03:00:22.020 And be like, well, okay, but my dad didn't care about any of those things.

03:00:25.880 It's an outlier.

03:00:26.880 So then which one of us is right?

03:00:28.620 I don't know.

03:00:29.240 I just don't think you understand how many insecure men are out there.

03:00:34.260 Yeah, but what is it that they're valuing?

03:00:36.700 Oh, look, a status, how it comes off to social media, how it comes off to their peers.

03:00:42.280 You think most men care about that?

03:00:44.580 Men who are looking for something serious?

03:00:48.020 Probably not.

03:00:48.980 Men who are just, like we said earlier, they're dating sluts, they're dating whatever.

03:00:52.980 They don't care.

03:00:53.600 It's just for an appearance, for a time being, whatever.

03:00:56.280 They can wash their hands and reanew.

03:00:58.080 Here, go ahead, Myra.

03:01:00.220 Thank you, Bren.

03:01:00.900 I think the dynamics are changing in our society these days.

03:01:04.200 And even though I do agree that, generally speaking, what you're saying is correct, I feel like I am that next evolutionary link that is kind of an exception from it.

03:01:14.980 Because I feel like I'm meant to, realistically speaking, good.

03:01:18.980 And I'm not looking for that safety.

03:01:20.800 I'm not looking for a man to provide.

03:01:22.460 It would be good if he would be on the same level so I don't have to pay for him.

03:01:25.580 I feel like the dynamic kind of changes there.

03:01:27.220 But for me, I have other priorities.

03:01:30.000 And I think a lot of women these days, considering they have more options to do what they want to do, to become independent, to make money the way that they want to make.

03:01:39.320 They have a lot more rights, generally speaking.

03:01:40.980 If we look just historically.

03:01:42.580 Exactly.

03:01:43.360 Right?

03:01:43.500 So, with that comes the freedom of choice.

03:01:46.920 So, I don't think I would be able to do things that I do these days, like 100 years ago.

03:01:53.280 And with that, women become more masculine.

03:01:56.300 That's what I was saying in the beginning.

03:01:58.080 Why, wait, why would they become more masculine?

03:02:01.960 Because.

03:02:02.440 What's the masculine trait you're pointing to?

03:02:04.520 Providing.

03:02:05.000 Right.

03:02:05.280 Providing is a masculine trait.

03:02:07.080 It's more being about ambitious, goal-oriented, a lot more direct.

03:02:13.080 So, what you do, it reflects on your personality greatly.

03:02:18.040 Like, imagine you're at home and you're just cooking.

03:02:19.820 Yes, I said that men are providers.

03:02:20.460 You're chilling.

03:02:21.360 You're making, I don't know, tightening up the house.

03:02:24.080 It's completely different as opposed to going out and business meetings.

03:02:26.360 So, which one of these?

03:02:27.200 So, when you're talking about a masculine trait, you think that being a provider is a masculine trait?

03:02:34.420 The things that you do to become a provider, to have enough money, yes.

03:02:37.960 Okay, so feminine trait would be what?

03:02:41.460 Traditionally speaking, that would be taking care of the house, kids, cooking, doing laundry, things like that.

03:02:47.460 Organization.

03:02:49.160 Yeah, sure.

03:02:49.700 And that develops, like, a different set of skills, a different type of personality.

03:02:54.100 Your hormones change.

03:02:55.200 Like, I know that for myself.

03:02:56.560 So, since men don't want the masculine traits, and I don't think that most women want the feminine traits,

03:03:03.120 why would you continue to orient and move society towards this, where women are gaining more masculine traits,

03:03:11.160 just in lieu of the fact that they have to go provide?

03:03:13.980 Does that seem like sensible policy to you?

03:03:16.900 Independence.

03:03:17.340 So, the feeling that you have the freedom to do what you want to do, not depend on a man, is intoxicating.

03:03:27.220 It's freeing.

03:03:28.440 So, it's hedonism.

03:03:30.100 Compared to what are...

03:03:31.740 Really, what you're talking about is just hedonism.

03:03:33.780 So, even though these are things which you think in society are pretty much bad, the fact that now women are far more masculine and, you know, that's not good for the dynamic between men and women,

03:03:48.680 you would still say that, well, we should still have it, we should still push towards it, because after all, for women, it's good that they can have the choice to be hedonists.

03:03:57.900 I think it's more about feeling powerful as opposed to powerless, and I think balance is the key, because even though I do feel independent, I'm still lacking, this is the reason why I'm even going on a date,

03:04:10.840 I'm lacking that male presence that will at least be able to match me, something that I can, something that a person I can see as an equal, somebody I can learn, grow, create with, that feeling, unfortunately, is absent for me.

03:04:26.900 Wait, I just want to bring it back to the 100 dates thing.

03:04:29.680 In the past two months, you've gone on 100 dates, and I'm assuming you've screened, like, there's probably other men that wanted to go on dates with you.

03:04:38.260 I'm assuming not every guy that asked you on a date, you accepted.

03:04:42.400 There was probably, okay, first, is he physically attractive, he doesn't seem too weird, just in this initial text conversation or however you met them.

03:04:49.980 So, I mean, it's pretty amazing to me that you've 100 dates in two months, and you've not, not one of, and 100 dates, 100 men, not one of them is even suitable for a relationship.

03:05:07.680 That's pretty crazy.

03:05:09.240 I don't think relationship is what I'm looking for right now.

03:05:12.140 Oh, so, okay, what are you looking for?

03:05:13.180 Just somebody to fuck?

03:05:15.320 No.

03:05:15.800 So then what are you, if you're not looking for a relationship, you're not looking for something casual, what are you looking for?

03:05:21.720 Because if you don't know what you're looking for, then obviously you're going to encounter.

03:05:24.980 Yes, I'm just thinking about how I word that correctly.

03:05:27.340 I think for me, what has the most value right now, besides for growth, as I mentioned just now, is somebody who makes you feel.

03:05:35.900 And I think in this society, because people don't quite express themselves.

03:05:40.820 What makes you feel, so you want to be entertained.

03:05:43.740 It's more about just being authentic and enjoying life.

03:05:49.640 And I feel like a lot of people just sort of copy-paste.

03:05:52.340 Copy-paste?

03:05:53.160 Yeah, they just, they sort of do things that others are doing, they copy-paste in it.

03:05:58.300 They're not actually enjoying that.

03:05:59.660 It's just about hedonism.

03:06:01.580 Stuff you want, right?

03:06:02.660 I don't even know, my initial question was...

03:06:07.520 It's a little murky there.

03:06:09.280 We're talking about such extremes, though.

03:06:12.340 I mean, like, for example, like, I'm just, for example's sake, let's say I...

03:06:16.620 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

03:06:17.660 I just want to continue on this for a little bit.

03:06:19.780 So, okay.

03:06:21.380 I was asking you what you're looking for.

03:06:23.280 You said you're not looking for a relationship, but you're also...

03:06:26.280 I'm not opposed to it, though.

03:06:27.160 You're not opposed to it.

03:06:28.600 Well, I mean, it's unfortunate you're not willing to reveal your age, because I do feel

03:06:34.360 like that would give me a little more context, because if you're 21 versus 31, I mean, there's

03:06:40.060 just...

03:06:40.440 Do you want...

03:06:40.960 Here, let me ask.

03:06:42.500 Do you want to get married?

03:06:45.040 No.

03:06:46.020 Okay, fair.

03:06:46.660 Do you want to have kids?

03:06:47.860 At some point, yes.

03:06:49.040 At some point, yes.

03:06:50.120 Okay.

03:06:50.320 So, knowing your age would be helpful in this conversation, because, as Andrew pointed

03:06:55.900 out, there is a time limit when it comes to having children.

03:06:59.740 Maybe she froze her eggs.

03:07:01.480 Did you?

03:07:02.080 There's so many different ways to preserve your fertility.

03:07:06.620 See, but this is a lie we tell women, because actually, even if you do freeze your eggs, granted,

03:07:11.060 it's an option.

03:07:11.960 My understanding is it's like 50%, the success rate of...

03:07:17.780 Unfreezing them.

03:07:18.700 It's like 50%, so it could work, but...

03:07:21.400 And they also often have to use different carriers, right?

03:07:24.300 They have to use a different carrier than them to carry the child.

03:07:26.640 I'm not worried about procreation.

03:07:29.280 For me, that's not the goal.

03:07:29.560 But you do want kids.

03:07:31.120 At some point.

03:07:31.480 Wait, what's the goal?

03:07:32.480 So, it is a goal.

03:07:33.540 So, I'm going to be honest.

03:07:35.440 I feel like most of my life, I was doing so much learning, studying, working, that I

03:07:41.520 haven't quite lived enough, that I was told so much by parents, people around society,

03:07:47.340 what's good and what's not good to do.

03:07:49.880 That at this point, I'm just balancing it out a little bit, and I'm letting myself feel

03:07:54.620 it out, breathe, experience life that I normally wouldn't.

03:07:57.520 You've got to go find yourself, right?

03:07:58.500 But what's the point...

03:07:59.000 I've got to find myself.

03:08:00.200 What's the purpose or the point of going on 100 dates?

03:08:03.160 What are you looking for?

03:08:04.840 Because you said...

03:08:05.720 What are we all looking for?

03:08:08.240 I'm asking you.

03:08:09.120 In the end of the day, whenever we talk to other people, it's connection one way or

03:08:12.880 another, right?

03:08:14.440 But what are you practically looking for?

03:08:16.820 Do you want a long-term boyfriend?

03:08:19.140 Do you want marriage?

03:08:20.060 It sounds like one day you want kids.

03:08:22.220 So, I assume that you...

03:08:24.360 I'm assuming you'd want to have your own biological children with a man, and I'm assuming you'd

03:08:30.700 hope that man, whether you get married or not, remains in your life.

03:08:35.380 Or not.

03:08:35.940 That's fine, too.

03:08:36.880 You'd be okay with that?

03:08:38.360 Absolutely.

03:08:39.620 You wouldn't have any qualms.

03:08:43.300 Like, let's say there was no...

03:08:44.840 It was just...

03:08:46.120 You're just like, I could take him or leave him, the father of my children.

03:08:51.480 That's fine.

03:08:52.120 I'm not going to try to use children as a reason to get them to stay.

03:08:55.420 But you just said you're looking for connection.

03:08:57.120 Wouldn't you want to have a great connection with your potential partner, the potential

03:09:01.620 father of your children?

03:09:03.320 Absolutely, yes.

03:09:04.240 But if that connection wears out, or we have a stronger connection with other people, it's

03:09:08.720 perfectly fine to separate.

03:09:10.400 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

03:09:11.960 So, if you're in an otherwise healthy relationship with somebody, but you meet somebody else that

03:09:17.960 you have more physical attraction towards, or a stronger connection, right?

03:09:23.180 But let's say you're more physically attracted to them, or for you, if maybe it's more important

03:09:27.120 to have a strong connection.

03:09:28.660 If you feel a stronger connection to another individual, but your relationship is otherwise

03:09:33.880 good, you would leave the father of your children.

03:09:38.660 So, there's usually a reason as to why people even start looking or giving that idea, like,

03:09:43.440 entertaining that idea in their mind as to why they would leave the person?

03:09:46.740 What you just said, honestly, is a scarlet letter, and I don't think any man should ever

03:09:49.820 commit to you.

03:09:50.960 And that is fine, too.

03:09:51.820 Because if your position is, what if somebody else comes along who I have a better connection

03:09:56.480 with, that is not, that should not be pretext for ending an otherwise healthy relationship.

03:10:02.320 That is not what I'm saying.

03:10:03.000 Certainly, if there's children involved.

03:10:04.100 Well, that is what you just said.

03:10:05.340 Yeah, literally.

03:10:06.200 Let me paraphrase what I just said, because it seems like you understood that differently.

03:10:10.300 Okay, sure.

03:10:11.000 So, if for whatever reason, well, okay, usually the reason why one would leave a relationship

03:10:18.160 would be that there are gaps in the relationship.

03:10:20.520 What do you mean by gaps?

03:10:25.200 Let's say there's certain tension.

03:10:27.520 You got to know the person better, and it turned out that he or she is different.

03:10:32.680 And you're not enjoying it as much as you were.

03:10:36.600 What do you mean by enjoyment?

03:10:37.660 Do you mean, like, having fun?

03:10:39.040 Because it's not clear to me if the ultimate goal...

03:10:40.920 Let's say you're arguing, right?

03:10:42.420 Let's say...

03:10:43.140 That's people, couples argue as long as...

03:10:45.700 Right, if it becomes most of the time.

03:10:47.880 Okay.

03:10:48.180 If they're arguing all the time, if they're not agreeing, if they're not enjoying the

03:10:53.180 time together, what's the point of staying together for the sake of the child?

03:10:57.620 Well, because if you are to look at the outcome of what happens to a child, if you

03:11:05.460 remove the father from the home, for instance, if you just remove the father from the home,

03:11:09.460 even if the child's in an abusive home, with both their parents being abusive, and you

03:11:15.960 enter into a stepfather moving into the home, right, they're still at a higher risk than

03:11:21.600 even if they were with the abusive parents.

03:11:23.260 I disagree.

03:11:23.760 All the child needs is a father figure.

03:11:26.840 It does not need to be a biological father.

03:11:28.720 It sounds crazy.

03:11:29.700 I know how it sounds.

03:11:31.140 I don't know if I agree.

03:11:31.900 I don't know if I agree on that.

03:11:33.000 But hang on, hang on.

03:11:33.340 All the child needs is a father figure.

03:11:34.980 What has said that?

03:11:36.760 I can give you the study, but it is true.

03:11:39.820 It's the same thing with the state.

03:11:40.980 It's interesting if you remove a child from a home and you enter the child in with the

03:11:45.420 state to get them out of an abusive home, right?

03:11:49.160 Their chance of being abused under state custody and of expiring under state custody are actually

03:11:55.080 higher than if you left the child in the abusive home.

03:11:58.560 What's interesting about this is like people don't even realize that this is true, but having

03:12:03.780 another man come into the home, a stepfather in the home and the biological father taken

03:12:07.400 out, that's when most abuses inside the home towards children even happen.

03:12:12.760 The outcomes are really, really bad for children inside of homes when their parents split up.

03:12:19.080 And what it always is, is it's always a woman who has the mentality that you have.

03:12:23.180 And this mentality is something better comes along, I'll leave, right?

03:12:27.980 That's why women are initiating most of the divorces.

03:12:30.300 Something better comes along, I'll leave.

03:12:32.400 And they do.

03:12:33.440 And they leave.

03:12:34.340 And they break up the home.

03:12:35.260 And they break up the family.

03:12:36.060 And then all of the entire generation is raised by single moms.

03:12:38.900 Men do that all the time.

03:12:39.680 Men walk out.

03:12:40.920 Who's initiating the divorces?

03:12:42.520 Is it men or women?

03:12:43.320 So you're saying that if he cheats, it's okay.

03:12:46.800 They're not divorcing him because he's cheating.

03:12:48.660 They divorce over irreconcilable differences.

03:12:50.500 I don't feel happy.

03:12:52.020 Men are like, if you're providing for a man and you're being a wife, if he can still do

03:12:58.440 whatever he wants to do, cheat, whatever, talk to you, however, whatever, and still come home

03:13:05.700 to you and you still take care of him, why would he go get a divorce?

03:13:09.340 Why would he do that?

03:13:10.580 They're not.

03:13:11.400 Women are initiating.

03:13:12.340 I'm just talking about in the whatever example that we're speaking of because you're saying

03:13:17.100 if you're in an abusive home, but if you're better off in an abusive home if there's two

03:13:21.600 parents, but then in a non-abusive home with one parent because the dad's not there, that

03:13:25.860 doesn't even make sense.

03:13:27.100 And I'm also just saying you're on top of you saying that women are initiating divorces.

03:13:31.000 Because a lot of times, just making my point, if you're making a man comfortable, you're

03:13:36.560 being a wife to him, he has no reason to divorce you, even if he's unhappy.

03:13:40.100 He still comes home to a home-cooked meal.

03:13:41.700 He still comes home to a clean house.

03:13:42.780 You're taking care of the kids.

03:13:44.000 Why would he go get a divorce?

03:13:45.460 I would initiate the divorce.

03:13:47.800 So you're saying that men, of course, just aren't doing what they're supposed to do and

03:13:54.280 women are dissatisfied because men aren't doing what they're supposed to do.

03:13:56.100 I never said that.

03:13:56.940 Well, then why are women initiating 80% of the divorces?

03:14:00.400 But I was making the point that men are probably less likely to initiate a divorce in the sense

03:14:07.360 of if everything is being taken care of for them at home, why would you go get a divorce?

03:14:12.880 If I can come home to my wife, I can go cheat or go gamble, whatever, all day, and then

03:14:18.120 I still have a wife at home.

03:14:20.000 I'm just saying, as a man, why would you go get a divorce?

03:14:22.300 And lose half years.

03:14:24.700 As opposed to being the woman who now you're bearing the brunt of, okay, whether he's not

03:14:30.340 holding up, he's not holding up whatever boundaries or whatever you guys have in your marriage,

03:14:36.040 he's not adhering to those.

03:14:39.160 So now you're the woman.

03:14:40.400 They're not, they're, listen, they're not divorcing them because the men are cheating.

03:14:43.600 They're not divorcing them for that reason.

03:14:45.060 They, we know this because they tell us this.

03:14:47.380 When we pull them.

03:14:48.580 I know statistically, what is it?

03:14:49.100 They're usually just saying irreconcilable differences.

03:14:52.300 We're dissatisfied.

03:14:52.900 And, and we don't know what that means necessarily.

03:14:54.980 For the same reason that she's dating, going on a hundred dates and she can only barely

03:14:58.320 find one guy.

03:14:59.380 It's the same reason that 80% of women are initiating divorce.

03:15:01.260 It's what she said.

03:15:02.540 It's what she said is that I'm, I'm no longer entertained.

03:15:06.660 I'm bored.

03:15:08.040 I, you know, look, there's certainly instances of abuse and that happens, but I think a lot

03:15:12.980 of divorce is just like, eh, I'm bored.

03:15:15.960 Well, if women are initiating divorces, what is, what, what is the push for monogamy then?

03:15:21.460 If 80% of women are initiating divorces and it's maybe not so great.

03:15:24.800 I'm just curious.

03:15:25.740 I'm not, I'm just, we're just having conversation.

03:15:29.640 Yeah.

03:15:29.960 I'm very much devil's advocate.

03:15:31.600 So I'm just curious.

03:15:32.780 What is the whole big deal about promiscuousness and monogamy?

03:15:37.460 If women are getting divorced at these high rates, then go let them be freaking with anyone.

03:15:42.440 Who cares?

03:15:43.520 Here.

03:15:43.960 Maybe we can come to that.

03:15:45.180 I do kind of want to try to get an answer from you.

03:15:49.840 Myra?

03:15:51.040 Mira.

03:15:51.880 Right?

03:15:52.220 Which one?

03:15:52.980 One day.

03:15:53.520 Your, your name has two pronounce, possible pronunciations.

03:15:56.900 Don't blame me.

03:15:57.340 But how hard is it to remember that it's Mira?

03:15:59.440 I, I've got a, you have like, I have a huge conversational, I have a huge conversational

03:16:04.180 burden.

03:16:04.600 So, um, okay.

03:16:06.040 So I'm trying to get an answer.

03:16:08.000 What are you looking for?

03:16:09.380 Cause you want to have kids.

03:16:10.320 So I assume you want to, there's going to be a man that you want to have those kids with.

03:16:13.540 So I assume you eventually want to move towards, and I assume you don't want to have kids with

03:16:18.600 just anybody.

03:16:20.020 Just random man off the street.

03:16:21.540 Please impregnate me.

03:16:22.360 I'm assume you'd want to have a relationship with the person that you want to have kids

03:16:26.160 with.

03:16:26.420 I'm looking for you to a chat.

03:16:31.280 What?

03:16:32.480 Do you want to just answer the question though?

03:16:33.980 Just so.

03:16:35.160 Like, what are you looking for?

03:16:36.780 I think it's a now.

03:16:38.040 I'm very much enjoying my freedom and power that comes with it.

03:16:42.620 Nick, can you close the door?

03:16:43.500 Um, but I do believe eventually I will meet a person that I will have deep enough connection

03:16:49.260 to have children and procreate.

03:16:52.020 So our society does not go extinct.

03:16:54.860 I think Andrew would appreciate that statement.

03:16:56.700 That's okay.

03:16:57.440 That's beautiful.

03:16:58.600 So, but I mean, you are going on these dates.

03:17:01.280 So I assume you're.

03:17:02.780 I'm trying, Brian.

03:17:04.200 There's a goal.

03:17:05.280 No, but there's gotta be like, what do you ultimately want out of the, when you go on a

03:17:10.280 date, like, are you looking for something short term, a little casual thing?

03:17:14.820 Are you looking for, this could be a boyfriend.

03:17:17.060 This could be, I know you said you don't want to get married, so maybe not a husband, but.

03:17:20.960 I think people are too fixated on what they want.

03:17:24.660 A lot of the times, like I said, we don't even necessarily know what's best for us because

03:17:29.420 all of those ideas are just defined by the rest of the world.

03:17:33.460 So why not just be open to everything and see what plays out to the best?

03:17:38.700 Well, I mean, even, even if you object to what the world is defining, you can either

03:17:43.140 look at what that society is recommending is best and you can, using your own life experience,

03:17:50.820 make a determination.

03:17:51.760 Do I agree with that?

03:17:52.540 Do I disagree with that?

03:17:53.960 Where do I deviate?

03:17:55.600 So I.

03:17:56.660 Yeah.

03:17:57.080 I think it's very important to keep asking yourself that question.

03:17:59.520 Does this make me feel good?

03:18:01.560 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

03:18:02.480 That's, I don't think that is the ultimate thing people ought to be looking for.

03:18:07.960 Or does that make me feel good?

03:18:10.120 I think not enough people ask themselves that question and do things that are not right

03:18:13.900 for them.

03:18:14.080 It's rather selfish.

03:18:14.720 I think it's a rather selfish approach.

03:18:15.740 If you're not hurting people around you, why is that bad?

03:18:19.280 Like, let's say somebody is telling you avocados is the way to go.

03:18:21.960 You eat avocado and you just vomit.

03:18:24.400 It's not good for you.

03:18:25.220 Why would you force yourself as opposed to eating apples?

03:18:27.600 Because.

03:18:28.680 That's just an example.

03:18:30.040 Let's say apples are being hated and said that this is bad for you.

03:18:33.020 But for your body, it actually works perfect.

03:18:36.080 Why would you pick avocados over apples?

03:18:38.380 Yeah, so those are preferences, though.

03:18:40.160 That's what I'm talking about.

03:18:41.060 Okay, but it's not just about preference.

03:18:42.980 It's about the effect of the things that you do.

03:18:45.720 So if you just say.

03:18:47.020 Are we going to go back to the extinct of the race?

03:18:48.720 No, no, no, we're not.

03:18:49.520 I'm just talking about, in this case, what he's saying.

03:18:53.700 He's saying that all you want to do purely is just be selfish.

03:18:57.320 Is that true?

03:18:58.840 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.

03:19:02.240 New studies show women are more abusive in relationships.

03:19:06.040 Men will work hard to save a marriage, while women are more than willing to walk away and

03:19:10.760 use the kids against the man.

03:19:12.960 Please be better.

03:19:14.120 What do they get those studies from?

03:19:16.920 Also, men are scared that they don't want to lose half their shit.

03:19:20.500 I was just asking, purely selfishness, is that really what you're advocating for?

03:19:24.820 It's just self-centered selfishness, ultimately.

03:19:26.900 I have a question.

03:19:27.500 Is not just advocating for her starting a nuclear family selfishness?

03:19:31.200 Because I feel like you're drawing the line.

03:19:31.740 No, that's a straw man.

03:19:33.180 It has nothing to do with what I'm asking.

03:19:34.200 I'm asking why is it selfish.

03:19:35.460 Well, I'm asking her if it's selfish.

03:19:37.560 I don't think it is.

03:19:38.340 Okay, so can you tell me then, if it's not just selfishness and self-centeredness?

03:19:45.020 I'm telling you right now, it is not.

03:19:46.200 Okay, then why are you doing it?

03:19:48.440 That is a completely different question.

03:19:49.720 Yeah, I know it is.

03:19:50.480 That's why I'm asking it.

03:19:51.260 Why are you doing it?

03:19:52.560 Because I can.

03:19:53.440 It's not hurting anyone.

03:19:54.680 And it's making my life better.

03:19:56.640 Me, me, me, me, me.

03:19:58.320 Do you want me to think about you?

03:19:59.420 No, I want you to think about anything other than yourself.

03:20:02.420 But if you are, okay, if you are looking for a relationship, do you think that everything

03:20:08.140 in a relationship has to make you feel good?

03:20:15.120 It's about two people.

03:20:17.360 Because certainly there might be compromises that occur in a relationship.

03:20:21.260 Yes.

03:20:21.460 But a compromise may not necessarily mean you always get what you want.

03:20:25.340 Of course.

03:20:27.120 I agree.

03:20:27.980 It is about a compromise.

03:20:28.680 But you said what you're looking for now is what makes you feel good.

03:20:32.480 Overall.

03:20:33.160 Yes.

03:20:34.100 Overall, why would you try to stick to something that makes you feel bad?

03:20:37.320 For what purpose?

03:20:38.280 Because you could have better outcomes.

03:20:39.760 You don't know about that.

03:20:40.820 You do know about that.

03:20:42.120 And I can give you some examples of how you would know about that.

03:20:44.020 You know about what's going to be best for me?

03:20:45.360 Well, I know that you can have outcomes.

03:20:46.860 You can do things which are not comfortable for you now and give you better outcomes later.

03:20:50.580 You want to hear a really easy one?

03:20:51.920 The gym.

03:20:52.480 Working out.

03:20:53.060 The gym is not a very fun thing to do.

03:20:56.080 Look at the six.

03:20:56.560 She's got six pounds.

03:20:57.240 So guess how many times I go to the gym?

03:21:00.800 I don't care.

03:21:01.540 She works out at home.

03:21:01.940 Well, you gave this as an example, right?

03:21:05.000 You're saying gym is good for you.

03:21:06.780 Guess how many times I go to the gym?

03:21:08.480 I don't care.

03:21:09.060 Do you work at home?

03:21:09.500 It has nothing to do with the question.

03:21:10.280 Do you do home workouts?

03:21:11.280 Zero.

03:21:11.900 Okay.

03:21:12.420 So why is gym good for me?

03:21:14.020 Oh, my God.

03:21:14.500 I think he's talking about exercise.

03:21:18.180 Yeah.

03:21:18.560 I'm saying that's an example.

03:21:20.060 That's an example.

03:21:20.780 Okay.

03:21:20.960 You do Pilates.

03:21:21.340 And I love exercise.

03:21:21.880 It doesn't feel bad for me, but I do it in my own terms.

03:21:24.680 Yes.

03:21:24.900 I figure it's something that works for me.

03:21:26.440 I don't just follow society's rules.

03:21:28.140 Most people go to the gym and they would be miserable.

03:21:29.880 You're an exercise rebel?

03:21:31.840 Is that what you're saying?

03:21:32.520 So have you seen what I just done?

03:21:33.800 Literally, I just ran around.

03:21:35.260 I tried to stretch.

03:21:36.600 That felt amazing to me.

03:21:38.200 I would never force myself to go to the gym and do these repetitive, boring things.

03:21:42.720 What if you had...

03:21:43.400 So you've never gone to the gym and have sore muscles?

03:21:47.300 Okay.

03:21:47.840 Yes.

03:21:48.340 You have?

03:21:49.060 Yes.

03:21:49.380 Was it comfortable?

03:21:49.940 Strangely, yes.

03:21:52.700 It was.

03:21:53.400 So I love that feeling because it's kind of hard to explain, but I actually really enjoy

03:21:58.860 that.

03:21:59.360 And if I don't do it long enough, I'm starting to feel bad.

03:22:02.820 What if you feel really good eating all the time?

03:22:05.340 So there's a reason why people do that too.

03:22:07.840 There was a period of time when I was overeating.

03:22:09.900 And then when I analyzed as to why I was doing it, I stopped doing that.

03:22:13.480 Was it comfortable?

03:22:14.440 It was comforting another mental issue that I had.

03:22:18.100 And when I fixed the mental issue, I stopped everything.

03:22:20.160 So you're saying that you were willing to experience discomfort or a thing that you had

03:22:23.680 displeasure in for a better outcome?

03:22:26.680 That was not a displeasure.

03:22:28.220 Yes, it was.

03:22:29.360 It was a displeasure.

03:22:30.560 Let's go around the table really quick.

03:22:31.880 Let's do something light.

03:22:33.660 Then I want to try to get you into the conversation a little bit.

03:22:36.320 I don't think you've said anything for the past three hours.

03:22:38.860 So, okay, Nick, can you pull up the Instagrams of the two guys?

03:22:44.880 So wait, before you do, though, before you do, hold on just a moment.

03:22:49.900 These are the two men I'm about to show you are my dear friends.

03:22:53.240 They have tasked me with finding them girlfriends.

03:22:57.520 I am a matchmaker, you could say.

03:22:59.840 Okay, so, Nick, if you could pull up the first one, would you go on a date with him?

03:23:09.900 So his name is Zach, yes.

03:23:12.880 He's a very nice guy, very nice gentleman.

03:23:15.340 He is exceptionally skilled at playing World of Warcraft.

03:23:23.280 Okay, very good World of Warcraft player.

03:23:25.880 Scroll down, Nick.

03:23:26.820 Let's see some more photos.

03:23:27.920 He's very kind, he's a generous man.

03:23:33.360 He's got great long hair, and he also has an axe.

03:23:37.840 I'm waiting to find that.

03:23:39.320 There it is, there's the axe.

03:23:40.280 He also owns an axe, so he's capable of protecting you.

03:23:43.320 Would you be willing to date our friend here, Zach?

03:23:49.460 Starting with you, and we'll go around the table.

03:23:52.020 Is he not with Pink Sparkles anymore?

03:23:53.960 No, they're about that end of a while ago.

03:23:57.040 Okay.

03:23:57.400 Yeah, well, I'm actually friends with Zach, so it is strange for me.

03:24:01.620 Yeah, we've known each other for years.

03:24:03.080 You know, sometimes relationships blossom out of friendships.

03:24:06.280 Don't say never.

03:24:06.960 Don't never say never.

03:24:07.940 I'm not going to say never, but I do believe that the physical factor is quite important.

03:24:12.640 What are you trying to say?

03:24:13.880 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

03:24:14.780 What are you trying to say?

03:24:15.500 What are you trying to say?

03:24:17.120 What are you trying to say?

03:24:17.960 Mira?

03:24:18.780 Chemically.

03:24:19.380 You got it.

03:24:20.600 You did say it, right?

03:24:22.220 Mira?

03:24:22.760 Yes.

03:24:23.140 Okay, okay, okay.

03:24:23.620 Hey, guys, Brian.

03:24:24.800 Good to meet you.

03:24:26.040 Thank you.

03:24:26.760 I thought it was Maya.

03:24:27.480 So, I believe it's very important that chemically you're also compatible.

03:24:33.400 Chemically?

03:24:33.900 Yeah, so it's nature's way telling you that you will produce better offsprings.

03:24:40.020 You know when you're like someone's smell?

03:24:41.220 What are you trying to say about his chemicals?

03:24:43.700 How dare you insult Zach's chemicals?

03:24:46.200 I don't think we're very compatible.

03:24:47.600 I'm very upset.

03:24:47.980 I'm very upset by this.

03:24:49.480 He has wonderful chemicals.

03:24:50.900 I will let you know.

03:24:51.840 He does for someone else.

03:24:53.240 He's got great pheromones.

03:24:54.420 Absolutely.

03:24:54.820 How dare you?

03:24:55.560 I don't think we'll produce the best offsprings.

03:24:58.380 Why is that?

03:24:59.880 Because of...

03:25:00.960 First of all, this guy has been...

03:25:03.860 He's put in many hours in World of Warcraft.

03:25:05.900 Your offspring will be like top-tier fucking World of Warcraft players.

03:25:12.980 What's wrong with that?

03:25:14.140 I don't think that's what I'm looking for.

03:25:16.120 That's...

03:25:16.420 Come on.

03:25:17.840 Okay.

03:25:18.320 All right.

03:25:18.620 What about you?

03:25:19.640 What about Zach?

03:25:20.580 He's a nice guy, right?

03:25:21.780 I would say most likely no.

03:25:24.680 For A, it's the video games for me.

03:25:27.580 I just think I meet too many guys that are actually addicted to video games.

03:25:32.820 They have to.

03:25:34.260 Okay.

03:25:34.740 And then it's like when they're done, like now it's your time to shine.

03:25:38.300 Whatever.

03:25:39.120 Okay.

03:25:39.620 Also, I liked him better bald.

03:25:43.760 That was the one thing.

03:25:45.060 You liked him better bald?

03:25:45.420 Maybe if he was bald again.

03:25:47.200 If Zach was bald again.

03:25:49.040 Maybe, yeah.

03:25:49.760 So if he shaved his head.

03:25:51.220 Yeah, maybe.

03:25:52.320 But I don't tend to go towards white men.

03:25:55.220 Oh, you don't like white men.

03:25:57.540 I don't hate them, don't love them.

03:26:00.040 I think they're the more like problematic of the bunch.

03:26:03.360 But that could just be from my own upbringing.

03:26:06.920 What?

03:26:08.220 You know, out of men.

03:26:09.360 Usually, like statistically, like white men are more likely to hurt you, harm you.

03:26:14.080 And that's been my experience.

03:26:15.960 That's your experience.

03:26:16.960 That's absolutely non-statistical.

03:26:19.140 She said statistically.

03:26:20.980 That's non-statistical.

03:26:21.360 No, but statistically.

03:26:23.980 No, no, no.

03:26:24.960 Modesty.

03:26:25.400 Yeah, they have a lot of pushback on this side.

03:26:27.700 Why does my bank not want to let me support you?

03:26:32.200 I had to call and they told me it's your fault.

03:26:35.200 Also, still simping for Mira.

03:26:37.960 Mira wants a ring.

03:26:39.660 Mira go to gym.

03:26:40.560 Is it pronounced?

03:26:41.100 Comes home to me.

03:26:42.340 Did the TTS pronounce it right?

03:26:44.900 Mira?

03:26:45.800 Okay.

03:26:46.520 Maybe you tried.

03:26:47.700 I mean, if sometimes Streamlabs has a limit.

03:26:49.940 If you want to switch over for you, Modest.

03:26:52.160 If you want to switch over.

03:26:52.880 I mean, it seems like you were able to do it.

03:26:54.960 You can always do it through YouTube if it just blocks you out.

03:26:58.140 You don't date white men.

03:26:59.680 What does it type?

03:27:00.120 Not all the time.

03:27:00.980 Not all the time.

03:27:01.640 Not all the time.

03:27:02.480 But I have.

03:27:03.180 Okay.

03:27:03.860 All right.

03:27:04.260 I have.

03:27:04.920 All right.

03:27:05.380 Well, we don't.

03:27:05.980 It's just more scary experience for me.

03:27:07.980 I'm just saying your statistics, it's reversed.

03:27:10.820 You can't say statistically without knowing the statistics.

03:27:12.840 What are the statistics?

03:27:13.620 I don't know.

03:27:14.520 But some people think statistically when they mean that.

03:27:17.780 Are you?

03:27:18.040 I didn't say that.

03:27:19.320 In prison people.

03:27:20.960 Like, then, yeah, those numbers go, like, different skewed.

03:27:23.960 But then when you, like, look, well, I, SA, and, like, that's, I don't know.

03:27:28.820 I don't want to use triggers words.

03:27:30.400 All right.

03:27:30.880 Farah, would you date, would you date Zach?

03:27:33.460 You said he's a full-time streamer?

03:27:36.300 He's a, he's one of the, oh, well.

03:27:39.300 Yeah.

03:27:39.860 I guess he streams.

03:27:41.080 Oh.

03:27:41.380 Kind of, sort of.

03:27:42.080 No, I wouldn't date someone in the industry.

03:27:43.620 You wouldn't date somebody in the industry?

03:27:45.420 No.

03:27:47.380 Okay.

03:27:48.120 All right.

03:27:49.020 What about you?

03:27:49.660 Would you date Zach?

03:27:51.800 I mean.

03:27:52.620 Go on a date with him.

03:27:53.200 I think if I met him and he was cool and I like talking to him, probably.

03:27:58.460 He is cool.

03:27:59.100 Take my word for it.

03:28:00.020 He's super cool.

03:28:01.520 What's his sign?

03:28:02.500 What's his sign?

03:28:03.240 I don't know.

03:28:03.960 Okay.

03:28:04.680 Money.

03:28:05.560 I mean, yeah, I pretty much, if I like someone, like, I'll go on a date with you if you're cool

03:28:09.100 and I talk to you.

03:28:09.700 What about you?

03:28:11.020 Oh, sorry.

03:28:12.020 I thought you were.

03:28:12.980 Damn.

03:28:13.600 I'm just trying to, if you had more, go ahead.

03:28:15.840 I'm sorry.

03:28:16.120 I'm sorry.

03:28:16.980 You got, no, no, no.

03:28:17.740 Go ahead.

03:28:18.040 No, that's it.

03:28:18.640 Oh, okay.

03:28:18.940 Sorry.

03:28:19.080 I was just going to say, he seems nice, but I'm kind of interested in someone at the

03:28:23.580 moment.

03:28:24.040 If you're single.

03:28:25.000 If you're single.

03:28:25.620 I don't know.

03:28:25.940 It's kind of hard for me to think like that.

03:28:27.720 Okay.

03:28:27.940 Nevermind.

03:28:28.480 And then, well, you're married, so I suspect.

03:28:30.460 I mean, I don't think I would either, though.

03:28:32.240 Sorry, Zach.

03:28:32.920 I'm sorry.

03:28:33.540 I was trying my best.

03:28:34.120 Mostly because of the video game thing.

03:28:35.740 Thank you.

03:28:36.240 Scroll up, Nick, on that one.

03:28:37.480 Scroll up.

03:28:37.900 Let's see.

03:28:38.300 Why are you skipping in, Drew?

03:28:40.560 Would you go on a date with Zach?

03:28:43.540 What?

03:28:44.040 Me?

03:28:45.340 No.

03:28:46.160 This is Zach.

03:28:47.180 Rude.

03:28:47.460 He's the owner of OTK Network, Star Forged PCs.

03:28:50.460 You know, one of the top streamers on Twitch.

03:28:52.720 I don't know if he's like top 10 or something, but he's a very popular Twitch streamer.

03:28:57.320 He's a millionaire many times over, and all around good dude and handsome and has an axe.

03:29:04.280 Does that change anything?

03:29:06.440 Maybe if he shaved his head.

03:29:07.660 And he lives in Texas.

03:29:09.080 Texas.

03:29:10.700 Shaved his head.

03:29:11.700 Okay, Zach, if you're watching this, I can set it up.

03:29:14.840 I can arrange a little bit.

03:29:16.420 Next one.

03:29:17.000 Last guy, and then we're going to get to some actual topics.

03:29:19.220 Next person.

03:29:20.000 Boom.

03:29:20.440 Okay, we have this gentleman.

03:29:22.100 Would you date this gentleman?

03:29:23.460 So his name is Felix.

03:29:25.380 Scroll down, Nick, so we can see some photos.

03:29:27.480 All right, see?

03:29:28.300 So he's, okay, he's, you know, like that.

03:29:31.860 He's got dyed blonde hair.

03:29:36.560 He's got a cat.

03:29:37.780 He loves animals.

03:29:38.840 Loves animals.

03:29:39.700 All around good guy.

03:29:41.880 You know, he's maybe a little bit of a gamer, you know, but yeah, and that's Felix.

03:29:48.460 So going around the table, would you date him?

03:29:50.080 Go ahead.

03:29:50.600 I remember hosting Felix when he had less viewers than me on Twitch.

03:29:55.380 Interesting how time changes things.

03:29:57.520 Yeah, he was playing Overwatch, and I was like, oh, he's kind of cute.

03:29:59.900 Let's help out a smaller streamer.

03:30:01.840 And then he was so excited, and like, we started talking, and then Mitch was like, yo, man.

03:30:06.600 Because Mitch was much more developed of a streamer back then.

03:30:12.180 Would you date him, though?

03:30:14.380 Well, that's, Mitch cog blocked it for me, basically.

03:30:16.880 Mitch cog blocked.

03:30:17.280 And he told him, like, yo, don't, don't, you know, that's my girl.

03:30:21.140 Don't.

03:30:22.100 And that's it.

03:30:22.660 That was the end of it.

03:30:23.260 Oh, okay.

03:30:23.380 You could only host Mitch, but you couldn't host Felix.

03:30:27.040 Yeah, separately.

03:30:28.400 Would you date him, though?

03:30:29.920 Because obviously Mitch is.

03:30:31.320 What do you mean it's too late?

03:30:32.260 I can't.

03:30:33.100 Why?

03:30:33.540 No more.

03:30:34.140 You are?

03:30:34.840 Have you seen, like, those.

03:30:36.100 Go ahead.

03:30:36.460 Go ahead.

03:30:37.880 It would depend on personality.

03:30:40.200 Okay.

03:30:41.020 No.

03:30:41.300 Um, yeah, probably, if he was cool.

03:30:44.620 He looks a little young, though.

03:30:45.620 I don't know how old he is, but he looks.

03:30:47.000 I think late 20s, maybe?

03:30:48.900 I don't know.

03:30:50.040 His 20s take a set.

03:30:51.460 Okay, that's fine.

03:30:52.180 You guys don't have time.

03:30:53.340 Go ahead.

03:30:53.960 Go ahead.

03:30:54.620 Pull him back up really quick.

03:30:55.780 This is XQC.

03:30:57.760 His name's Felix.

03:30:58.320 Oh, 27.

03:30:59.100 Excuse me.

03:31:00.120 And very popular Twitch streamer.

03:31:02.460 One of the top Twitch streamers, although now he's on kick.

03:31:04.560 He recently had a $100 million deal.

03:31:08.120 All around great guy.

03:31:10.660 Solid dude.

03:31:11.620 Does that change anything for anybody?

03:31:13.960 No.

03:31:14.420 Okay.

03:31:14.680 Still want to see his personality.

03:31:16.220 Yeah.

03:31:16.700 Okay.

03:31:17.280 I'm sorry, Felix.

03:31:17.940 I tried.

03:31:18.340 I tried my best.

03:31:19.280 I'm sorry, XQC.

03:31:20.120 I'm sorry.

03:31:20.440 I'm sorry.

03:31:20.740 I'm sorry.

03:31:21.140 Okay, so I want to go around the table.

03:31:23.440 This is related to your statement about you're a feminist, but you have traditional elements.

03:31:27.360 We'll maybe touch back on that.

03:31:29.740 Going around the table, do you consider yourself a feminist?

03:31:32.180 Starting with you.

03:31:32.960 Go ahead.

03:31:33.540 Oh, I will need a definition of that.

03:31:38.020 A lot of definitions going out tonight.

03:31:39.920 We want men and women to have equal rights.

03:31:43.600 Equality.

03:31:44.460 What type of rights?

03:31:45.760 Like civil rights?

03:31:46.620 Jesus Christ.

03:31:47.180 All rights.

03:31:49.540 I don't want men and women to be equal, no.

03:31:52.060 Oh, you don't?

03:31:52.840 No, not like that.

03:31:54.740 I think that's why we're attracted to each other is because of our differences as well.

03:31:58.400 Like I said, there's got to be some type of dynamic going on.

03:32:01.020 I can get behind that.

03:32:02.140 Okay.

03:32:02.260 I think for the most part, yeah.

03:32:06.180 I think for the most part, yeah.

03:32:07.820 But there's some things I like a little more traditionally.

03:32:13.700 Okay.

03:32:14.100 I'll come back to that.

03:32:15.120 What about you?

03:32:15.980 It's actually similar.

03:32:16.980 Feminist, but a lot of traditional values.

03:32:19.400 Okay.

03:32:19.840 I, the term feminism, like it's not, I don't think it's as intersectional as, I don't know.

03:32:29.040 I wouldn't consider myself a feminist.

03:32:31.240 I think that, I don't think I'm more or less than a man.

03:32:34.120 I don't think a man's like more or less than me.

03:32:36.460 I think we're like yin and yang.

03:32:37.780 But, I mean, I think we need equality for women in other places.

03:32:43.500 Women need more uplifting.

03:32:45.320 So, I do believe in feminine, some principles of feminism.

03:32:49.620 Okay.

03:32:49.800 But I wouldn't call myself a feminist.

03:32:51.700 If feminism is like equal or equality between men and women, then I would say, yes, I'm a feminist.

03:32:58.160 But I'm more so like equal opportunity.

03:33:01.300 Okay.

03:33:01.960 Sure.

03:33:03.360 What about you?

03:33:04.200 I would say definitely not.

03:33:07.780 Only because the principles of feminism are not required, especially for anyone sitting at this table or anyone in this, like in our society at large.

03:33:18.120 Andrew, are you a feminist?

03:33:20.400 Well, not only am I not a feminist, but with the exception of the nice lady who brought cookies, all of you are feminists.

03:33:29.100 Every single one of you is a feminist.

03:33:31.100 You think so?

03:33:31.720 Yeah.

03:33:31.980 How do you tell me what I am?

03:33:35.180 I'm curious.

03:33:35.720 What would make me more feminist?

03:33:38.100 And I just want to say, not like that, but feminism came around a time like suffragettes and stuff when like, I'm a black woman.

03:33:43.640 So, white girls weren't even working and then they wanted to go back to working.

03:33:47.340 So, they're like, I want to be a feminist.

03:33:48.520 But like me, 200 years ago, like that wasn't really the same.

03:33:52.400 Like feminism wasn't really the same for me.

03:33:54.060 So, that's why I don't identify with it.

03:33:56.680 So, I feel like, not like that, but I'm not a feminist because I was, my people always been working.

03:34:03.800 Well, let's start with what you think feminism is.

03:34:07.560 Well, what do you think it is?

03:34:09.080 You just called me a feminist.

03:34:10.220 Well, so, I think I can demonstrate this pretty easy, right?

03:34:14.160 But let's just start with what you think it is.

03:34:15.800 What do you think it is?

03:34:16.520 I mean, feminism started as like women wanting to be equal.

03:34:25.640 So, wanting to be able to like get jobs, be able to like leave the house, go work, you know, have more rights.

03:34:34.940 So, which of those values do you disagree with?

03:34:37.420 Well, I mean, I don't, I don't, I disagree with the idea.

03:34:46.320 Well, like I just said, I, feminism was never really for me as a black woman because we've always been working.

03:34:53.220 Like we never had the option to like sit back and then decide like 50 years later that we wanted to go back to working.

03:34:58.580 Yeah, but which of the values that you just stated?

03:35:00.900 Wait, if I can just add to what you're saying, very early feminism was actually very racist.

03:35:05.860 So, you actually do make a good point that early feminism was, they wanted the, I don't want to, I could be off here.

03:35:14.360 I think they wanted to secure the vote for white women.

03:35:17.040 Yeah, Planned Parenthood, all that stuff.

03:35:19.340 Margaret Sanger, all of them, they were eugenicists.

03:35:21.400 They were not for me.

03:35:22.660 So, for you to sit and tell me I'm a feminist, I genuinely like at the basis of feminism, it was never for me.

03:35:29.080 So, no, I'm not.

03:35:29.640 Yeah, but which of the values?

03:35:30.920 If you're a friend, I would like not call her a feminist either.

03:35:33.140 Which of the values?

03:35:34.140 Seriously, then tell me the values you disagree with.

03:35:36.680 I don't think that you should.

03:35:38.220 Just because I can work doesn't mean I want to.

03:35:40.720 Like, someone fought for that right, and I'm like, good for them, they should go to work, but I don't really want to.

03:35:44.380 They could work before feminism came around.

03:35:46.740 Where did this idea come from that women couldn't work before there was feminism?

03:35:49.760 Well, like, you couldn't have a credit card to like, what, the 70s?

03:35:51.540 No.

03:35:51.800 They couldn't have been.

03:35:52.580 No, listen, men were responsible for their wives' debts.

03:35:57.920 They had to pay their wives' debts.

03:36:00.260 So, you, as the wife, could go to the local department store, and you could buy whatever you wanted to on your husband's credit, and he had to pay the debt.

03:36:07.800 Because we didn't work.

03:36:08.300 You weren't responsible for the debt.

03:36:10.000 So, yes, while it's true that they wouldn't give women credit cards, they gave it to the man, the woman could still go spend as much as she wanted to, and never was responsible for the debt in the marriage, ever.

03:36:20.780 No debtors ever came for her.

03:36:22.080 She was never responsible for any of it.

03:36:24.500 So, there was, there's a give and take.

03:36:26.580 Everything that you look at, they, so what you're.

03:36:28.840 But that's what I'm saying.

03:36:29.260 Like, the not-feminist to me is like, who fought for that to change?

03:36:33.380 The reason you believe this, and the reason you think that this is why the world works, is because of what's called standpoint theory.

03:36:40.680 Scanpoint?

03:36:41.400 Standpoint.

03:36:42.100 Standpoint theory.

03:36:43.040 So, what standpoint theory is, is it's a feminist theory which says that history, because it's subjective, women's history needs to be told only through the prism of a woman and how a woman thinks about it, rather than what's objectively true.

03:36:56.200 So, they'll leave stuff like that completely out.

03:36:59.180 So, I brought with me on my phone, I don't know if I can pull it out, but an old suffragette.

03:37:03.500 Flyer, which was counter-arguments to the people who were out trying to get the right to vote, right?

03:37:09.660 Okay.

03:37:10.380 And you can see the arguments then.

03:37:13.220 Hey, if we get a million dollars in inheritance, we don't have to share it with our husband.

03:37:17.260 That was one of the arguments that was used against the suffragettes, because it was true.

03:37:24.480 And they weren't responsible for debt, and they didn't have any of these problems, right?

03:37:28.660 So, the standpoint theory kind of pollutes it.

03:37:31.220 When you guys were talking about the reason I asked you what you think it is, and then which values you disagree with, because all the values stated, I don't believe you disagree with them.

03:37:39.780 And why would you?

03:37:40.800 Why would you think that you, based on the definition that you gave about what a feminist is, why would you disagree with anything that you said?

03:37:47.580 Okay, I'm talking about...

03:37:48.900 Like, right now, feminism today, not feminism during the suffrage movement.

03:37:53.060 I don't believe that's the same definition.

03:37:55.500 I...

03:37:56.060 Okay, if it's not the same definition, I'm a little bit curious to know what you're...

03:38:02.860 Again, I don't identify as a feminist.

03:38:04.880 No, I'm asking based on your definition, what you gave when you asked.

03:38:07.860 Why don't identify as a feminist?

03:38:09.460 Yeah, like, what's wrong with that?

03:38:10.120 That's what I just said, because the...

03:38:12.120 First of all, the origins of the feminism...

03:38:14.120 Right, but we're not talking about the origins, right?

03:38:16.040 I'm getting to your point.

03:38:16.900 Okay.

03:38:17.720 Let me talk.

03:38:18.700 Go ahead.

03:38:18.900 The origins of the feminist movement, I don't identify with them, so naturally, I...

03:38:23.000 As it progresses, that's something that I don't identify with in name, but in practice, I...

03:38:30.360 I don't think that, like, because you have a penis and I have a vagina, you're better than

03:38:34.980 me or I'm better than you.

03:38:36.220 I think we're equal, so I...

03:38:39.280 Feminism, I mean, if we're talking about when it started a long time ago, when women

03:38:45.260 needed a little bit more protection, you needed a little bit more...

03:38:50.820 Like, we're...

03:38:51.540 Compared to, like, women in the 1800s, like, we have it very good, like...

03:38:54.100 That's what I'm saying, though.

03:38:54.940 So I'm saying that that came out from a time when things were so much different, so for

03:39:01.700 me to, like, I...

03:39:04.360 It came from such an extreme...

03:39:07.860 Women needed a different type of feminism than whatever is needed today, and, like, for

03:39:13.220 me, there's women that are getting castrated and, like, what is it called when you can't

03:39:17.380 have babies?

03:39:17.980 Mutilated.

03:39:18.860 We don't...

03:39:19.260 I don't have that problem.

03:39:20.220 You don't have that problem.

03:39:21.020 You don't have that problem, but...

03:39:22.420 Baby boys have that problem, though.

03:39:23.900 I...

03:39:24.620 And I don't even agree with circumcision in baby boys.

03:39:26.560 I think it's crazy, but that's neither here nor there.

03:39:29.300 But in some places, there are some girls who need someone to stand up and say that just

03:39:35.320 because you're a girl doesn't mean you have to be subjected to this.

03:39:39.260 Does that mean I'm a feminist?

03:39:40.640 I don't know.

03:39:41.220 I don't...

03:39:41.500 I...

03:39:41.740 Again, I don't identify with feminism because it was never for me.

03:39:44.660 I don't have to...

03:39:45.300 I don't have to label myself to be...

03:39:47.420 To feel my viewpoints.

03:39:48.460 Like, I don't need, like, a big thing hanging over it to define it.

03:39:52.540 But what...

03:39:53.260 It can be intersectional, which is what I'm saying.

03:39:55.980 What she's saying, what her point is, and mine too, is to say that if the word, and we're

03:40:01.520 saying the word means those same values that you state...

03:40:05.020 What does it mean to you?

03:40:06.080 Well, hang on.

03:40:06.680 I'm just curious.

03:40:07.180 Hang on.

03:40:07.360 Just let me finish.

03:40:08.760 If it means the same values that you state that you believe in, right?

03:40:13.380 And then when we use the word feminism, it is to describe you.

03:40:16.820 I'll keep him a donated $200.

03:40:19.560 Brickson, I think you and my bank are in cahoots somehow.

03:40:23.460 Fool me once.

03:40:24.500 I hope it still goes to you after you calling me out.

03:40:27.640 Live the one.

03:40:28.540 Recent.

03:40:29.300 Cast.

03:40:29.720 I wasn't live.

03:40:31.180 Mira, you want a 30K ring?

03:40:33.740 Hashtag simp.

03:40:34.820 Yes, please.

03:40:35.600 With an emerald.

03:40:37.220 Anyway, you can essentially call it whatever you want.

03:40:39.700 But we're saying that when we say feminism, those same values and more values even than

03:40:45.200 that, but just those same values are what we're referencing.

03:40:47.720 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.

03:40:50.300 All on the right side of the panel have spewed anti-male rhetoric abuse, cheating, so on.

03:40:56.680 Yet you are all single, will likely remain so.

03:41:00.220 Feminism has failed you.

03:41:01.920 How can the patriarchy help you today?

03:41:04.220 Yeah, modest.

03:41:04.760 Thank you, man.

03:41:05.320 Thank you, Grid One Motorsports.

03:41:06.960 You promoted cheating or abuse.

03:41:08.600 What?

03:41:10.360 What?

03:41:10.980 Keep your hands to yourself, guys.

03:41:12.320 We were pretty much anti-abuse.

03:41:14.840 Pretty much.

03:41:15.320 I don't know about the anti-cheating.

03:41:16.960 I'm kidding.

03:41:17.700 You're money.

03:41:18.220 So, did you have something more, Andrew?

03:41:20.880 Yes, anyway, I was just saying, when we're applying the word, we're applying the word

03:41:25.060 to mean all those things you said, so we're not talking past each other.

03:41:27.920 You're just saying, I don't identify it based on this other value that I have, but you

03:41:32.720 haven't really said what the value is.

03:41:35.820 Okay.

03:41:36.260 And I'm very devil's advocate, so I'm not, oh, I'm not, like, against what you're saying,

03:41:43.260 but I'm really trying to understand what do you, it would help me answer you if you told

03:41:51.040 me what you define feminism as, because, again-

03:41:53.220 Why do you need my definition to know your definition?

03:41:55.220 Well, because you just called me a feminist, so I'm just curious what you're basing that

03:42:00.640 off of.

03:42:01.020 But listen, from a logical, hang on, from a logical perspective, you wouldn't need me

03:42:05.520 to tell you the definition of a thing I asked you for a definition of, to know your definition

03:42:09.800 of the thing.

03:42:11.300 Are you, I feel like this is like, is it nihilism?

03:42:13.520 Okay, so I'll just tell you what I think, what I think feminism is.

03:42:16.540 I'm just asking, because we're having a competition.

03:42:17.560 Feminism to me, feminism to me, and feminism broadly, is the pushing of an egalitarian society

03:42:26.240 based around the equality of men and women.

03:42:30.140 Is that the most generous definition that you give it?

03:42:32.600 That's the most generous one I could possibly give.

03:42:34.440 So, and I'm, so you don't, like, you don't think that, I'm assuming, you don't think that

03:42:39.680 men and women are equal, correct?

03:42:41.880 Okay.

03:42:42.380 Which is okay.

03:42:43.140 No.

03:42:43.580 You're allowed to.

03:42:43.900 I don't.

03:42:44.400 I don't think it's okay.

03:42:45.300 I don't think that egalitarianism is true.

03:42:48.180 I don't think that equality is real.

03:42:50.200 I don't think any of those things are true.

03:42:52.000 I don't think any of them are true.

03:42:52.500 Do you think equality should be real?

03:42:54.320 No.

03:42:54.760 You think is, who do you think is the.

03:42:55.980 I don't, well, I don't even think it's possible.

03:42:58.420 You want me to tell you how far it knows?

03:42:59.980 Far it knows what I'm about to say, but I'll tell you, I can tell you how.

03:43:03.620 I can tell you how men and women can't be equal.

03:43:05.620 You want me to tell you?

03:43:06.840 Yes.

03:43:07.220 Okay.

03:43:07.700 Yes.

03:43:09.200 If you are to look at force in society, who would you say has the monopoly on force, men

03:43:14.700 or women?

03:43:16.180 Men on brute men.

03:43:19.240 The monopoly.

03:43:20.200 I'm just talking about the monopoly.

03:43:21.320 Taking easily over the stronger ones.

03:43:23.740 I feel like things are set up for men, but.

03:43:28.660 Can you indicate a time in history ever, in the history of all of mankind, where men didn't

03:43:32.980 have monopoly on force?

03:43:34.940 On force as in like physical force though, correct?

03:43:38.080 Always.

03:43:38.400 They're always stronger than us.

03:43:40.140 Oh, then.

03:43:40.520 Yeah.

03:43:40.880 That's the biology.

03:43:41.860 They have the monopoly on physical force.

03:43:43.500 So the question when we come down to rights is who can enforce rights?

03:43:46.800 Women can't enforce their own rights.

03:43:48.360 Men have to enforce women's rights.

03:43:50.220 So there can never be real equality.

03:43:52.120 There can never be real equality.

03:43:53.060 This is literally what the fuck?

03:43:55.220 I just want to say men are a little bit more very.

03:43:57.800 That is like so violent in nature.

03:44:00.320 What the fuck?

03:44:00.720 Even what you just said.

03:44:02.060 Like, sorry.

03:44:03.280 Every society, of course, you need force, but the fact that you feel like you're in, because

03:44:09.900 you're stronger than someone or you can overpower them, you're more entitled to some sort of

03:44:15.280 thing.

03:44:15.420 Hang on, listen, so that you get it real quick.

03:44:17.280 Hang on.

03:44:17.720 Just hear me out.

03:44:18.260 Okay, yeah.

03:44:20.160 Inside of your society, you have rights, right?

03:44:24.660 Those rights need to be enforced, right?

03:44:26.780 So somebody doesn't violate them, right?

03:44:30.500 Who's the enforcement arm?

03:44:31.800 Women's rights were mostly created, though.

03:44:33.480 It is usually physically.

03:44:34.840 How?

03:44:35.540 What do you do with criminals?

03:44:37.280 I mean, you put them in jail, but like-

03:44:38.360 And who does that?

03:44:40.160 There's never been a female officer ever.

03:44:41.880 I'm not saying there hasn't been, but who does that?

03:44:43.660 Who puts them in jail?

03:44:44.860 And then who guards them while they're in jail?

03:44:47.260 I mean, I don't want to say that because I know women security guards that are fucking

03:44:52.740 rappers in jail.

03:44:53.760 You're speaking always to the exception.

03:44:55.520 You always look to the outliers.

03:44:56.780 It's not that there can't be some women who are on par with some men.

03:45:00.460 It's that, as a monolith, men are the grantors of force, the grantors of rights, and here's

03:45:04.900 how.

03:45:05.680 Whenever you need criminals dealt with in society, it's men who are going to be dealing with

03:45:10.580 the criminals.

03:45:10.960 They're going to be putting them in the jails.

03:45:12.280 They're going to be enforcing your laws.

03:45:13.660 They're going to be protecting you while you sleep through the military and through

03:45:16.400 the force there.

03:45:16.680 I don't disagree, but have we ever given women the opportunity to be in that place?

03:45:21.560 Yes, here's the amazing part.

03:45:22.120 The amazing part is right now they have all that opportunity and they still can't do it.

03:45:27.160 Meaning, men-

03:45:27.980 I don't think they do.

03:45:29.100 Men inside, yes, they do.

03:45:31.040 Where do women have less opportunity to become the enforcement arm than men in society right

03:45:35.500 now?

03:45:35.700 Tell me.

03:45:36.160 You just said they have a monopoly on force.

03:45:38.200 I'm, and I don't disagree.

03:45:40.380 I think men are protectors and they, like, if I have a husband, he's probably bigger than

03:45:45.720 me.

03:45:45.940 If someone comes to try to fight me, I'm not going to be like, oh, hold on.

03:45:48.900 I got this.

03:45:49.680 I'm going to expect my man to handle it.

03:45:51.220 But that's not my question.

03:45:52.260 So-

03:45:52.600 My question is, can women be police officers?

03:45:55.180 Yes.

03:45:55.540 Can they be in the military?

03:45:56.760 Yes.

03:45:57.020 Yes.

03:45:57.100 Okay.

03:45:57.340 Can they be the prison guards?

03:45:59.560 Yes, but can they do all the same things?

03:46:00.680 Okay, so they ever have less opportunity-

03:46:03.200 Yes.

03:46:03.740 To be in the enforcement arm.

03:46:05.500 Because there's people in the, in the, in that employ them that hold up that patriarchy.

03:46:12.360 That's why it's called a police man.

03:46:13.600 What happens instead is this.

03:46:15.100 Because they were only men in the beginning.

03:46:16.700 Inside of the military and inside of the police force and inside all, all these different enforcement

03:46:20.280 in arms, when you include women, you would lower the standard.

03:46:23.520 You lower the standard in order to bring women in, meaning the female standards in

03:46:28.280 the military.

03:46:29.620 Yes.

03:46:30.660 Physically.

03:46:31.560 So the standard-

03:46:32.220 But you need nurses in the military.

03:46:33.540 You need, you need women.

03:46:36.180 You don't need them.

03:46:36.780 They're not helping us, Ramon.

03:46:37.500 But they are there.

03:46:38.620 You don't need a nurse in the, you don't need doctors in the military.

03:46:40.260 You don't need female nurses.

03:46:41.340 You could have male nurses.

03:46:42.560 Oh, no, no.

03:46:43.020 I'm just going on like more of the traditional values of like-

03:46:45.600 Yeah, but I'm just talking about an equalization of force.

03:46:48.400 Men have an overwhelming amount of power and force.

03:46:53.760 And so women can't actually enforce their rights against men, whereas men can change

03:46:58.560 the conditions almost any time they want based on their will because they have the

03:47:03.100 monopoly on force.

03:47:04.240 You don't think that's because that's how it's been set up in time and history for them?

03:47:07.940 If it wasn't for men, though-

03:47:09.440 No.

03:47:09.460 Skiz tech.

03:47:10.100 Thanks for the gifted hundred cents.

03:47:11.040 No, it's not.

03:47:12.320 The reason that it's that way is because men are overwhelmingly physically stronger than

03:47:16.520 women.

03:47:16.740 Who are women's rights protecting us from, though?

03:47:18.820 I'm like, a general.

03:47:20.240 Were they protecting women from other women or women from, as you said, the people who

03:47:24.560 hold the monopoly on brute force?

03:47:26.860 Well, they're not really protecting anybody from anything because they're an illusion.

03:47:30.880 It's illusory.

03:47:31.780 But if you were to answer my question, the reason that women felt so strongly-

03:47:35.780 They didn't feel strongly.

03:47:37.160 The suffragettes were a small, small portion.

03:47:39.720 Most women did not want the right, when I can't even get into this, but most women did

03:47:45.340 not want most of these rights, okay?

03:47:47.280 I can't get into it for TOS reasons, but most of them didn't even want them.

03:47:50.120 I'm not disagreeing.

03:47:50.620 What ended up happening instead was that it was a small collective of very weak men who

03:47:55.760 really pushed through with a lot of money to push feminists and these feminist ideals

03:47:59.660 through.

03:48:00.000 But most women didn't want anything to do with it because, if you don't mind, if you'll

03:48:04.380 humor me, let me read these anti-arguments.

03:48:08.400 This is from an original anti-suffrage flyer.

03:48:13.420 Why were the weak men not even a feminist?

03:48:15.500 Here's what it says.

03:48:16.500 Special privileges.

03:48:18.420 Married women are not required to contribute to support of the family.

03:48:24.780 Women may work, earn money, and spend it as she pleases.

03:48:28.340 May own real and personal property and dispose of it or sell it without her husband's knowledge

03:48:35.640 or consent.

03:48:37.080 The list goes on and on and on.

03:48:39.760 Wife may have millions and cut her husband off without a cent.

03:48:44.280 These do not sound like women were treated poorly or that they weren't treated as equals.

03:48:50.480 They were treated as different because they are different.

03:48:54.620 Agreed.

03:48:55.220 And so what happened instead was that men had the overwhelming burden of responsibility

03:48:59.860 and they were forced by society, the enforcement arm, which is other men, to do their duty.

03:49:07.000 And women were not forced to do that.

03:49:09.480 And when we see the societal role being reversed, where women are forced instead to take on roles

03:49:14.600 that require duty, they don't want it.

03:49:16.920 They completely reject it.

03:49:18.100 Like she said, it's basically just all me, me, me.

03:49:21.980 And that's why the roles are so messed up.

03:49:24.140 That's why everything is so reversed.

03:49:25.840 That's why everything is the opposite of what it's supposed to be.

03:49:28.760 I'm just curious then.

03:49:29.740 Why do you still feel like I'm a feminist?

03:49:32.500 I'm just curious.

03:49:34.260 Okay.

03:49:35.280 Let's maybe just move on.

03:49:36.460 Let's move on.

03:49:37.180 Let's move on.

03:49:37.820 But maybe we can come back to it.

03:49:39.200 I have one quick question for you.

03:49:41.420 You say you don't want to date men who play video games.

03:49:44.500 I don't object to that preference.

03:49:46.680 Would you object to, for example, a man not wanting to date a woman who does OnlyFans?

03:49:51.320 No.

03:49:51.840 Okay.

03:49:52.340 I think that's fair.

03:49:54.100 Sure.

03:49:54.280 It's not for everybody.

03:49:55.600 Okay.

03:49:56.400 The video games, I think I would just like, I'd be open to it, but I would like really need

03:50:00.560 to see that like you're in control and it's not like an addiction that like comes before

03:50:04.840 your family.

03:50:06.340 Sure.

03:50:07.120 And bringing it back to, I think the original question.

03:50:10.860 So we're going around the table asking if everybody was a feminist.

03:50:14.180 I think what I was trying to get at.

03:50:17.780 Hold on.

03:50:18.160 Modest Hikima donated $200.

03:50:21.060 Andrew W.

03:50:22.740 Why are we pretending men and women are the same and letting men who identify as women

03:50:27.820 to literally take over women's sports?

03:50:30.580 It is literally Looney Tune land.

03:50:32.900 How do you live in Looney Tune?

03:50:35.200 Yo, Modest.

03:50:35.980 Thank you, man.

03:50:36.380 Appreciate it.

03:50:37.240 My question for you guys is, because some of you guys said, well, I'm a feminist.

03:50:39.980 I think it was primarily you and then you, Farha, but you also enjoy those more traditional

03:50:45.160 elements.

03:50:46.340 And when you say the traditional elements, would you say like the guy being chivalrous,

03:50:51.480 like paying for first dates?

03:50:52.720 Yeah, I think I should pay for first dates and take on a lion's share of the bills.

03:50:58.540 Lion's share of the bills.

03:50:59.200 Even if the girl doesn't meet submissive feminine qualities.

03:51:02.320 Even if the girl doesn't meet submissive feminine qualities.

03:51:04.720 I mean, he doesn't have to.

03:51:05.740 It's his prerogative.

03:51:06.440 But I think it's still congruent with feminism.

03:51:08.880 Well, that's my question.

03:51:11.100 How do you reconcile being feminists, which I suppose a typical feminist belief is gender

03:51:16.700 equality, doing away with gender roles.

03:51:19.400 How do you reconcile being feminists, but also demanding men adhere to their more traditional

03:51:24.440 gender roles, such as paying for first dates, chivalry, et cetera, et cetera.

03:51:29.300 How do you reconcile that?

03:51:30.560 Because feminism is about social spheres to me.

03:51:32.580 So even if women were to occupy 50% of Congress, 50% of leadership roles, 50% CEOs of Fortune

03:51:39.380 500 companies, that doesn't affect the fact that if you and I were dating and we were hooking

03:51:44.300 up, I'm the one who has to take birth control so that you can, if we were to have a kid,

03:51:48.660 I'm the one who has to bear the child.

03:51:50.160 Are you on birth control?

03:51:51.700 No, I'm not fucking.

03:51:53.200 But when we have a child, I'm the one who's going to have my pussy torn open to bear your

03:51:58.000 child.

03:51:58.520 I'm the one who has to breastfeed.

03:51:59.680 So at the end of the day, you can only go 50-50 so far, and this idea of going 50-50

03:52:03.460 in terms of bills is actually just more of a burden on the woman, because you can never

03:52:06.960 go 50-50 in terms of actual reproductive roles.

03:52:09.420 But that assumes that the first person you ever date, that ends up becoming your husband

03:52:13.440 and the person you have children with.

03:52:15.400 Not necessarily, even if you're just hooking up.

03:52:17.960 I mean, birth control increases your chance of breast cancer by 20%, it fucks up your hormones.

03:52:21.760 I'm just like altering my body.

03:52:23.380 But so if I'm dating a woman who's not on birth control and she doesn't want to have children,

03:52:27.240 under those circumstances, would you be okay with the woman, like a 50-50 dynamic, or even

03:52:33.040 then you'd object to it?

03:52:34.760 It's not that I would object.

03:52:35.780 I would just say generally, given the dynamics of dating and the idea that usually people

03:52:39.120 are having sex and that women are taking birth control so that the man can have increased

03:52:42.520 sexual pleasure.

03:52:42.680 A lot of women are not on birth control.

03:52:44.860 Okay.

03:52:45.160 I will just give in the idea of like a goal of a relationship, which is typically that

03:52:48.660 you're dating to have kids or you're dating to marry to then have kids.

03:52:52.920 So I'm seeing it more in like a macro sense.

03:52:54.840 I think the idea of 50-50 is ridiculous.

03:52:57.360 Well, she just went on 100.

03:52:58.280 If you're just doing hookup culture and whatever she's doing, then I don't think, I think object,

03:53:02.300 I think 50-50 seems more fair.

03:53:03.880 Yeah.

03:53:05.400 What about you?

03:53:06.180 I mean, you just went on 100 first dates in the past two months.

03:53:09.380 Two months.

03:53:09.800 Do you want a guy to pay for the first date?

03:53:13.720 I don't want them, but I think this is a great indication of where they are in life.

03:53:20.360 So if somebody doesn't...

03:53:22.980 Well, earlier in the conversation, you said you want a guy who matches you or exceeds you.

03:53:29.200 So if they feel like they cannot, for whatever, I'm just assuming that it's their materialistic

03:53:34.760 situation that doesn't allow them to pay for the date.

03:53:37.860 It's probably not somebody I should be seeing because it's going to cause tension later

03:53:43.280 on.

03:53:44.900 Okay.

03:53:45.740 But that's completely optional.

03:53:47.440 Like, if they want to split, I'll split it.

03:53:49.440 Would there be a second date?

03:53:51.100 You might split it.

03:53:51.660 It depends on how much I like them because it's not all about the money.

03:53:55.480 So it would be a negative if a guy wanted to split the bill.

03:53:58.660 Yes.

03:54:00.940 Okay.

03:54:01.360 Okay.

03:54:02.160 Do you want to take it over?

03:54:03.560 Well, what about this commune?

03:54:04.600 Okay, we don't have to get back into that, but...

03:54:06.520 So that's where my, like, traditional values come...

03:54:08.540 I don't think it's, like, against anybody.

03:54:10.780 Like, it's 50...

03:54:12.360 But, like, for my goals of, like, I want a big family, like...

03:54:15.500 And that's, again, where...

03:54:16.860 What are you dating for?

03:54:17.980 You need to, like, find out your purpose.

03:54:19.700 So if, like, I was dating right now to, like, have, like, a family, like, of course I'm not

03:54:23.660 going to date, like, the guy who works at Subway because he probably doesn't make enough

03:54:26.800 money to provide for four kids.

03:54:28.680 Let me ask you two questions.

03:54:29.960 Um, so you said societally you want equality, but when it comes to romantic relationships,

03:54:36.040 you want tradition.

03:54:38.040 Um, would you...

03:54:39.900 It's not that I want tradition.

03:54:41.700 I think that the biological imperative of men and women is going to be there even if women

03:54:45.520 are CEOs and are taking on a more masculine role in larger society.

03:54:49.080 Yes, I agree with that.

03:54:49.400 I agree with that.

03:54:49.980 Yeah.

03:54:50.340 Um, would you take your husband's last name?

03:54:54.780 If it was a nice last name, yeah.

03:54:57.040 Yeah.

03:54:57.680 What about you?

03:54:58.220 Would you take your husband's last name?

03:55:00.680 Oh, yeah.

03:55:01.380 Yeah?

03:55:01.800 Yeah.

03:55:02.020 I mean, if I was super, like, Kim K famous, then I'd probably do a hyphenated, like, Kardashian

03:55:07.340 situation.

03:55:08.780 But so you're saying you demand tradition romantically, but romantic tradition would dictate that in

03:55:18.420 a marriage you would take your husband's last name and your children would also have your

03:55:23.000 husband's last name, regardless of how egregiously bad his last name was or wasn't.

03:55:28.220 Yeah, I mean, the kids can take his name or both our names.

03:55:30.680 No, but you would take it, too.

03:55:31.700 That's tradition.

03:55:33.220 Romantic.

03:55:33.800 That's not...

03:55:34.420 That's tradition romantically.

03:55:35.780 I said some traditional values.

03:55:37.540 I didn't say necessarily relationships have to be entirely traditional.

03:55:40.940 I said in terms of paying the bills, I have more traditional values.

03:55:43.040 Well, when the kid is born, what name does he get?

03:55:45.800 Does the kid get?

03:55:46.720 I guess it's up to the couple at hand.

03:55:48.340 If they want to hyphenate it, if they want to pick one.

03:55:50.060 In your traditional worldview when it comes to dating, anyways.

03:55:53.480 Yeah.

03:55:53.840 Your feminist traditional worldview.

03:55:56.880 For me, personally, I want to keep my name for my own branding.

03:56:00.460 For, like, the average couple, I think you could hyphenate it.

03:56:03.120 So, if you had a kid...

03:56:04.060 That's not traditional, though.

03:56:05.260 Yeah, so, and if you had a kid...

03:56:06.300 I said some traditional values.

03:56:07.700 My point was...

03:56:08.520 So, you only want the traditional values that benefit you.

03:56:11.020 It's not about benefiting.

03:56:11.880 It's about evening out the fact that my reproductive role is not 50-50, so why would we go 50-50 on

03:56:17.400 bills?

03:56:18.260 Well, what about the fact that you're...

03:56:20.080 We can't go 50-50 on that caregiving aspect.

03:56:22.100 But if you are in the caregiving aspect, and you're staying at home, you're taking care

03:56:26.800 of the kid, your obligation to that is only 18 years.

03:56:31.320 So, if he's working, right?

03:56:33.600 He's working to support you the entire time.

03:56:36.300 After that obligation is done, he's still working, and you're not working.

03:56:41.160 So, you get...

03:56:42.180 So, in some ways, you get a shortcut to retirement.

03:56:45.020 Example.

03:56:46.660 Wow.

03:56:47.400 Yo, A, B, check.

03:56:48.320 Thank you so much, man, for the Gifted 50 memberships.

03:56:50.280 An example?

03:56:51.000 Yeah, example.

03:56:51.740 Me and my wife, okay?

03:56:53.840 The youngest one that I have now, left at home, 12 years old, okay?

03:56:58.780 That's not gonna...

03:56:59.840 Or 11, sorry.

03:57:00.640 11 years old.

03:57:01.400 It's not that long, okay?

03:57:03.120 That's only, what, you know, a few short years before she may launch out of the pad.

03:57:09.740 Well, now my wife, she's pretty young.

03:57:11.820 She's still pretty young.

03:57:13.080 And she'll still be fairly young, even when that happens.

03:57:15.540 But I'll still be taking care of and paying all the bills.

03:57:18.860 She won't have to do any of that, right?

03:57:21.440 So, yes, she took care of her obligation on the front end, but on the back end, the man's still working the entire time.

03:57:26.220 So, I don't see where this idea of fairness comes from, from you, when you say, well, it's because I have to give birth and then stay at home.

03:57:34.000 It's like, well...

03:57:34.540 Thank you, Honda.

03:57:34.980 So, that's the easier job, one.

03:57:37.260 And then, two, you're paid for even after, even after the child's no longer needs 24-hour assistance.

03:57:45.700 And remember the time frame when that happens?

03:57:47.720 It's only the first two, three years when they really need round-the-clock assistance.

03:57:52.340 Yeah, I'm not correlating it to round-the-clock assistance.

03:57:56.340 And also, yeah, most couples have more than one child.

03:57:59.360 And so, it's not just the first 18 years.

03:58:00.920 It could be up to 30 years in theory.

03:58:03.320 Yeah, even if it could, if it's 30 years.

03:58:05.420 Yeah, obviously, they could tailor it to their actual familial duties and their plans.

03:58:09.240 Right, but really, even when you look at the cycle, let's say you had five, six kids, something like that, most people won't.

03:58:15.320 They'll have two or three, right?

03:58:16.900 But let's just assume it for the sake of assuming it.

03:58:19.380 They're usually spaced out by two or three years, okay?

03:58:22.000 So, they don't need round-the-clock assistance after the first couple of years.

03:58:25.880 They don't need that anymore.

03:58:27.040 And then, the older they get, when they get to, you know, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, basically, every single year that goes,

03:58:34.600 the less that you really have to focus on taking care of them.

03:58:38.760 Other than, like, basic meal things like this, they can basically take care of themselves.

03:58:43.020 They can brush their own teeth, comb their own hair, everything.

03:58:45.360 Most mothers don't just, you're, you know, it's not like they're 18 and they just fly away.

03:58:51.540 Well, I'm not saying that they are, but even then, when they're not flying away and they're 18,

03:58:56.220 it's the man who's covering their bills then, too.

03:58:58.940 So, then, if, a question for you, Farah.

03:59:00.960 I just had a different upbringing, so it's like, I'm not outlier of, like,

03:59:04.580 even if the kid stays, now the man's still taking care of that,

03:59:08.220 and the mom doesn't have to take care of it at all.

03:59:10.340 Not at all.

03:59:11.100 Doesn't have to work, doesn't have to do anything, and the caregiving portion of it, that's gone.

03:59:16.120 And the man's still working to take care of it, even if the kid doesn't leave.

03:59:19.000 But is the wife not taking care of you anymore, either?

03:59:21.360 Like, you know, cooking, cleaning, and stuff like that.

03:59:22.820 But if you're talking about what's equal, right, isn't the wife supposed to be doing that?

03:59:26.880 No, no, I am agreeing.

03:59:28.120 Right, so if she's supposed to be doing that already as a baseline,

03:59:31.820 you can't throw that in and say, well, it makes it more equal.

03:59:33.700 That's just her job.

03:59:34.640 No, I didn't say it made more equal.

03:59:36.160 I was just asking if in your situation you're still expecting after all these things.

03:59:40.240 Oh, yeah, no, I expect breakfast made, I expect lunch made, I expect dinner made.

03:59:44.580 I expect all that.

03:59:46.160 That's not a task.

03:59:48.940 No, it's a task, but it seems like it doesn't seem very difficult compared to this.

03:59:53.700 Compared to the...

03:59:55.020 But have you tried it?

03:59:55.760 I'm just catching up.

03:59:57.300 Major air elf for modest simp hiker.

04:00:00.080 That 304 looks like our slurred jasmine on crack.

04:00:04.380 That simp shiit.

04:00:05.760 She won't bang you.

04:00:07.200 Also, can the panel pronounce miscognistic?

04:00:10.800 Hashtag I want smoke.

04:00:12.640 What word are they?

04:00:14.280 Misogynistic?

04:00:15.000 Yeah, we had a girl in the previous show totally butcher the pronunciation.

04:00:17.680 Oh, I'm like...

04:00:18.800 Of that word.

04:00:19.500 Thank you, LP.

04:00:20.160 Appreciate it, man.

04:00:21.240 So anyway, yeah, when you just kind of like dive back in maybe to wrap this up or whatever,

04:00:26.120 but yeah, when you're talking about her tasks and duties, no, I don't think her tasks and duties are draining.

04:00:32.100 I think that she was able, in fact, to have so much additional time based on my labor that she was able to write a best-selling book,

04:00:39.200 which is a best-selling book right now that you can buy.

04:00:41.700 And you know who gets all of the royalties of that book?

04:00:45.040 Me.

04:00:45.840 Every bit of it.

04:00:46.760 Every bit.

04:00:49.420 She doesn't...

04:00:50.060 And if she gets any of it, it's due to my largest.

04:00:53.640 Why?

04:00:54.500 Because I took care of her for the entirety of her life and took good care of my children for the entirety of their life.

04:01:01.620 And we'll still continue to do so.

04:01:03.240 And do you have a plan for them after you die?

04:01:04.620 Of course.

04:01:06.940 Assuming I'm the one who goes first, right?

04:01:09.180 But you don't know how that'll go.

04:01:10.460 But we're still looking at...

04:01:11.760 We're still pretty young, right?

04:01:13.260 Ultimately.

04:01:14.100 I just don't...

04:01:14.800 Like, when it comes to the whole tradition thing, I just don't understand.

04:01:17.800 Because, like, an 18-year-old woman, she's...

04:01:23.460 Is she immediately going to have children?

04:01:26.480 What if that relationship doesn't pan out?

04:01:28.460 Yeah.

04:01:28.560 So, that's...

04:01:29.520 All the value is front-loaded on the man.

04:01:31.600 Because not every relationship is going to culminate in having children.

04:01:35.160 Yeah.

04:01:35.480 So, that's...

04:01:36.800 It's aligned with the way I date.

04:01:38.260 So, for instance, I'm not currently dating.

04:01:39.600 I'm not on dating apps.

04:01:40.440 Next time I date, I'm dating to marry.

04:01:41.800 So, that's more...

04:01:42.460 But you're an outlier, I guess, in that regard.

04:01:45.200 Sure.

04:01:45.540 Yeah.

04:01:45.680 That's why I also mentioned the fact that I have more traditional values, perhaps, with

04:01:48.960 dating goals.

04:01:49.900 But why...

04:01:50.460 Like, I'm not dating for experience.

04:01:51.360 I'm dating to marry.

04:01:51.560 But you have traditional values.

04:01:52.760 But you claim to have traditional values.

04:01:55.500 But you wouldn't take your husband's last name, which is a traditional value.

04:02:00.420 You do OnlyFans, which is not traditional.

04:02:04.880 Because my view as part of traditionality is modesty.

04:02:11.960 Sure.

04:02:12.320 I don't think I need to subscribe to the entire, you know, package deal of traditionalism.

04:02:17.060 Sure.

04:02:17.160 But that doesn't mean I'm cherry-picking it.

04:02:18.440 It's what I think is most fulfilling and what I think is most conducive to success.

04:02:22.480 So, for me, I value the idea of getting married.

04:02:24.620 That's why I'm waiting until marriage.

04:02:25.800 I value dating to get married.

04:02:27.940 So, I'm saying I don't see...

04:02:29.460 Wait, you're waiting until marriage for what?

04:02:32.000 To fuck.

04:02:32.880 To have sex?

04:02:33.620 Yeah.

04:02:33.860 You're waiting until marriage?

04:02:36.240 Yeah.

04:02:37.620 Why should that blow your mind?

04:02:39.400 Because that's a traditional value.

04:02:40.660 No, no, no, that's fine.

04:02:41.080 Does that not make her modest, though?

04:02:41.680 I think she said something differently on a previous show.

04:02:44.420 I think...

04:02:44.860 No, actually not.

04:02:46.580 If Barra was saving gold bars, it would be less valuable than that in this day and age.

04:02:54.540 So, no, nothing but props from me.

04:02:57.440 But you previously answered that question differently.

04:03:00.580 Look, I guess my whole big thing is you got women who want equality societally.

04:03:05.620 Wait, she's answered that question differently before?

04:03:07.740 Yes.

04:03:08.240 Modest Hikima donated $200.

04:03:11.120 Girl 2, look at your health lol.

04:03:13.460 Yikes, girl 3, you need to remember you have ears.

04:03:16.800 Sorry for assuming, but your kids will be better off with a man in the home mirror.

04:03:21.460 HMU Andrew, tie.

04:03:24.560 Word?

04:03:25.840 I do agree that it has to be a father figure, but it does not have to be a biological father.

04:03:33.580 Wouldn't it be better, though, if it was?

04:03:35.920 It would be if the overall relationship was healthy and it did not affect psychological state of the parents because that would be reflected on the child.

04:03:45.980 Going to you.

04:03:46.600 So, the guy should pay for the first bill.

04:03:49.340 What about, would you take, I think I already asked you, excuse me if I did.

04:03:52.560 Would you take, no, no, no, would you take your husband's last name?

04:03:56.300 Yeah.

04:03:56.900 Okay, all right.

04:03:58.080 I guess one of my issues with this whole, like, your position is that you claim to believe in tradition, but it's rather traditional to take your husband's last name.

04:04:07.340 And I told you, that's why it's not cherry picking.

04:04:09.840 I'm saying, I'm, like, looking at each traditional value and saying, what do I consider the most conducive to a healthy relationship?

04:04:16.080 I don't know why taking his last name is going to lead to a healthy relationship.

04:04:18.980 I think waiting to have sex to get married is going to lead to a healthy relationship.

04:04:21.880 But I don't think the husband paying for first dates when you first meet them is going to lead to a healthier relationship necessarily either.

04:04:27.560 Right, but her argument for that is, but on the front end, the woman bears more of a brunt.

04:04:33.660 But that's not true.

04:04:34.560 So that's my problem is, like, that's not true.

04:04:37.780 What you stated of the reason that I believe that men should be paying for more for me and it shouldn't be 50-50 is because on the front end, I think we have a bigger, you know, like, a larger cross to bear than they do.

04:04:50.200 But that's not true.

04:04:51.720 It's not correct.

04:04:52.760 Not larger cross.

04:04:53.660 I wasn't downplaying what men have to do.

04:04:55.560 I was more so saying that, like, I think this idea of going 50-50 in bills isn't actually a true 50-50 because my point is we can never really go truly 50-50 in terms of child rearing and child bearing.

04:05:06.340 Yeah, but what I'm saying is that it should be 60-40 with the woman on the 60 side, right?

04:05:10.420 So if you're really – if your value was fairness anyway, that's what I'm saying.

04:05:15.040 If your value is fairness and your argument is this isn't fair, right, I would make the same argument back but just say, well, if that's the case, then you as the woman should probably be paying 60% and the man 40% and having the kids.

04:05:27.660 If it was about fairness.

04:05:30.860 It wasn't necessarily about fairness.

04:05:32.400 I was more so talking about biological imperative, and I was saying it doesn't matter how much feminism we sustain in society.

04:05:37.280 You can't out-feminist the fact that I have a pussy and you have a dick, and when we have a kid, I'm the one who's going to be facing that brunt.

04:05:43.400 I'm the one who's going to have my body fucked up.

04:05:45.440 I'm the one who's going to have suicidal ideation because I may be having postpartum depression.

04:05:48.940 I'm just saying, like, 50-50, in my opinion, is a fraud.

04:05:52.620 Also, like, women –

04:05:53.440 Well, wait a second.

04:05:54.120 But I kind of already responded to that, right, and said, no, that's not –

04:05:57.640 That's not really true.

04:05:58.520 You have less of a burden to bear over time.

04:06:01.300 From the beginning –

04:06:02.880 If I take 25 years out of the workforce to raise six of your kids, I have less of a burden?

04:06:07.080 Yeah.

04:06:08.320 How do you not?

04:06:09.320 So I should be going 50-50.

04:06:09.920 How do you not have less of a burden?

04:06:11.540 Wait, I'm confused, so I should be paying 50-50.

04:06:13.180 That's manual labor.

04:06:14.580 Oh, that's manual labor.

04:06:16.640 What if your job is just sitting all half hours all day?

04:06:19.660 I didn't think that was –

04:06:20.520 I think that any job you can do in your pajamas can't be that hard.

04:06:23.480 No, my point was you were saying she just has to care for the kid for 18 years,

04:06:27.280 and then after that, now she has a free retirement.

04:06:29.100 Just pop in the DVD.

04:06:30.120 Yeah.

04:06:30.560 You just pop in the DVD for the kid.

04:06:32.260 Truly, if you came home and your wife was in her pajamas every day,

04:06:36.580 would that not, like, turn you off or make you feel a certain type of way?

04:06:39.860 I don't think that –

04:06:40.800 Listen, I don't think –

04:06:42.480 Here's what most men want as the outcome for their children,

04:06:45.900 who, for the most part, by the way, are sent off to public school,

04:06:49.120 and she's not watching them do nothing, okay?

04:06:51.400 They're sent off for eight hours a day to an institution very far away from her,

04:06:56.040 and that's most kids who are raised by women in current society.

04:06:59.640 That's one.

04:07:00.540 Two, even if she stays at home and she raises them,

04:07:04.580 and on top of raising them, homeschools them, right,

04:07:07.360 and she does that in her pajamas,

04:07:08.940 then that's still the least lazy thing she could be doing

04:07:12.080 in comparison to sending them off to public school.

04:07:14.480 So, yeah, I think when you're talking about the labor added

04:07:17.660 and what they have to do to raise kids,

04:07:19.520 they mostly outsource that anyway.

04:07:21.740 Why is there such this, like –

04:07:23.600 Outsourcing takes time, too.

04:07:25.320 Oh, yeah, they have to wave at the school bus.

04:07:28.060 It's a rough gig.

04:07:28.900 They have to get their ass up at 6 a.m. to get them on a school bus.

04:07:31.940 It's a rough gig.

04:07:32.940 Well, do you ever think about how much it would cost you to pay a nanny,

04:07:35.520 to pay a house cleaner, to pay a private chef,

04:07:38.080 to pay, like, all these individual jobs?

04:07:40.300 And then let's reverse it.

04:07:41.140 Well, let's just reverse it then.

04:07:42.380 Okay, but what about how much it would cost

04:07:44.840 for you to be able to stay at home all day

04:07:47.060 and do absolutely nothing for the most part, right,

04:07:50.860 and have cable television, have trash paid for,

04:07:53.880 have your electric paid for, have all of your utilities,

04:07:56.360 have vacations given to you, have all of that,

04:07:58.860 that also has a high cost, a significant cost associated with it.

04:08:02.840 So as you're bitching about, well, wait a second,

04:08:05.680 my maid service should be compensated.

04:08:07.340 It's like, well, your living expenses are already compensated.

04:08:09.880 You have to do nothing for it.

04:08:11.220 Well, it's not nothing, and I don't think there's anything wrong

04:08:14.820 with agreeing that we both have to.

04:08:15.660 It's nothing, it's get on the school bus and go back to bed.

04:08:17.320 That's what it is.

04:08:17.420 In a marriage.

04:08:18.460 I wish.

04:08:19.140 It's, like, it's, like, what, I would hate for my husband

04:08:23.240 to just literally look at me and think,

04:08:25.200 if I'm a stay-at-home mom, that I just don't do shit all day.

04:08:27.740 If you go work and you have to, like, shovel bricks

04:08:31.700 and pick up bricks and break your back,

04:08:33.840 you're probably doing more laborious tasks than me,

04:08:36.440 but as your partner, it would be so disrespectful to think that.

04:08:39.500 To tell the truth?

04:08:41.060 To tell the truth?

04:08:41.980 I don't know, to me, if that's what you said.

04:08:44.160 It sounds like your wife might be lazy.

04:08:45.440 Let's assume for a second I'm a bricklayer,

04:08:47.520 and I go out and I do this hard, awful, horrible job,

04:08:50.600 and I started with no skills when I was doing it,

04:08:52.860 and it took me six years in order to just figure out

04:08:55.640 how to start laying the brick, okay?

04:08:58.020 Because that's what it takes as a mason.

04:09:00.500 And then, after that, I'm wrecking my body every single day,

04:09:03.400 working 12 hours a day, lifting some of the heaviest stuff

04:09:06.240 you can imagine, for 12 hours straight,

04:09:08.720 and I come home, and you're like,

04:09:10.700 well, that's pretty disrespectful to me.

04:09:12.860 It's pretty disrespectful to me

04:09:14.840 that you think I don't bust my ass the same way you do.

04:09:17.660 I'm just saying it's just as a partner,

04:09:19.920 if it's a true partner shop,

04:09:21.620 if the way you view it,

04:09:22.840 I think it seems like it's a little bit more of a business to you,

04:09:25.360 but if you're in more of a partnership,

04:09:27.920 I think it would be really disrespectful

04:09:31.360 if your husband came home and looked at you building a whole home for him,

04:09:35.240 taking care of his kids, pushing his kids out.

04:09:36.740 No, he built a whole home for you.

04:09:38.840 First of all, we don't even...

04:09:40.760 First of all, we're talking about modern times.

04:09:43.400 I'm talking in modern time.

04:09:44.920 Dudes really used to build houses.

04:09:46.520 None of us know how to build a house.

04:09:47.740 None of us created a house.

04:09:49.340 Andrew can build a house.

04:09:50.360 I can build a house.

04:09:51.140 Heard it from Andrew here.

04:09:51.780 That's fire, and more men need to learn how to build houses.

04:09:53.920 I don't know if I could build a...

04:09:55.640 So you could build this for you now?

04:09:56.800 There might be some things in a house that can build.

04:09:58.840 Do you have kids yet?

04:09:59.680 Are you more of a cabin guy?

04:10:01.320 Is it more of a cabin?

04:10:03.500 Yeah.

04:10:04.660 But most people can't build a house, okay?

04:10:07.500 Most people go buy a house,

04:10:08.900 but I'm just...

04:10:10.000 Now I feel like you're pig partying.

04:10:11.960 You know what I mean by build a home.

04:10:13.400 I don't mean lay...

04:10:13.780 Yeah, yeah, no.

04:10:14.020 Okay, I'll try to be as charitable as I can be about this.

04:10:16.680 Okay, listen.

04:10:17.400 But I'm just saying,

04:10:18.300 if I pushed out three kids for you,

04:10:19.980 and you come home,

04:10:20.600 and you look at me raising your kids,

04:10:23.380 and you think I barely have done anything,

04:10:26.200 that's crazy.

04:10:26.900 Yeah, but what if I come home and I go,

04:10:28.800 look, it took you two hours to pick up the house

04:10:32.520 and keep it maintained, okay?

04:10:34.820 The washer and dryer is going,

04:10:37.040 but you're not really...

04:10:38.300 You're not manually washing the clothes anymore.

04:10:40.600 I mean, you literally throw them in a machine.

04:10:42.780 And then you go,

04:10:43.920 and you put the kids on a school bus,

04:10:45.380 and the kids leave in a school bus.

04:10:47.140 What the hell else are you doing all day?

04:10:48.960 They have machines that do manual labor.

04:10:51.560 Yeah, I know.

04:10:52.000 People used to have to...

04:10:52.960 I don't know.

04:10:53.420 I used to be a nanny,

04:10:54.180 and even as a nanny,

04:10:56.200 people can keep up their houses.

04:10:57.480 I mean, there have been technological advances.

04:11:00.960 Let's move on to something else.

04:11:02.460 Okay.

04:11:02.960 All right.

04:11:04.180 You had a note here.

04:11:05.680 You said that you see a lot of girls

04:11:07.100 are kind of on an anti-man kick right now.

04:11:09.540 Is any girl currently on the panel

04:11:11.220 on an anti-man kick?

04:11:13.820 I'm trying to get over my...

04:11:15.920 I...

04:11:16.280 Uh-oh.

04:11:16.700 Modest Hikima donated $200.

04:11:19.180 What?

04:11:19.380 I didn't ignore it.

04:11:20.000 Did I ignore it?

04:11:20.660 Ignoring my generous tips is hate speech.

04:11:24.300 I am a trans woman,

04:11:25.300 and you ignored my messages.

04:11:26.800 I'm sorry.

04:11:27.360 Get ready for legal action

04:11:28.660 for not allowing my free speech.

04:11:31.160 I am allowed under zero tolerance to speak.

04:11:33.260 I apologize.

04:11:33.880 I'm sorry.

04:11:35.320 I will donate to GLAAD.

04:11:38.520 I'm sorry.

04:11:38.940 Okay.

04:11:39.460 Are you okay?

04:11:40.600 You look like you're...

04:11:41.600 She's massaging her temples.

04:11:42.820 Yeah.

04:11:43.480 I usually go to bed around 11,

04:11:45.380 and the drive is like two hours.

04:11:47.240 I'm just letting you guys know

04:11:48.200 I will sleep soon,

04:11:49.260 although I did enjoy this.

04:11:53.900 I'm falling asleep,

04:11:54.980 and my back hurts.

04:11:57.120 I love her.

04:11:58.400 Your back hurts?

04:11:59.820 Yes.

04:12:00.420 I've got...

04:12:00.860 You got back problems?

04:12:01.660 Where are your back problems?

04:12:02.280 What you got?

04:12:03.480 Here and here.

04:12:04.700 Would you like to massage me, Brian?

04:12:07.480 If you want to massage...

04:12:08.460 I got real back problems,

04:12:09.560 so you can massage me if you want,

04:12:11.320 but no.

04:12:14.540 You're good, though.

04:12:15.200 You can make another like four hours, right?

04:12:17.780 Yeah.

04:12:18.040 I think...

04:12:18.560 No, I'm kidding.

04:12:18.920 Is that how you guys usually go?

04:12:20.600 No, no.

04:12:20.980 We're not going to go that long,

04:12:22.560 but any girls at the table

04:12:24.500 on an anti-man kick right now?

04:12:26.220 Anybody?

04:12:27.460 You kind of?

04:12:28.020 I was on one for like a while.

04:12:29.880 A long time?

04:12:30.460 I just started dating back in January,

04:12:33.340 so like almost a year now,

04:12:34.760 but for like two years,

04:12:35.840 I did a year of celibacy,

04:12:38.320 and then took a year of like no dating,

04:12:41.420 nothing, but just...

04:12:42.260 Sure.

04:12:42.760 Okay.

04:12:43.100 Whatever.

04:12:43.980 Okay, cool.

04:12:45.000 So we have...

04:12:46.700 We got some tweets.

04:12:48.880 We have some tweets from some people.

04:12:51.620 Nick, if you can pull it from you.

04:12:53.880 Ooh, for my tweets?

04:12:55.340 Yeah, we have some of your tweets.

04:12:56.900 Yes!

04:12:57.960 I love this!

04:13:00.480 White men,

04:13:02.400 I especially don't need...

04:13:04.020 Hold on.

04:13:04.640 We'll come to...

04:13:04.840 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.

04:13:08.200 This panel is nothing but me, me, me,

04:13:10.460 and discount all a man willingly provides.

04:13:13.380 You deserve your future divorces.

04:13:15.460 I feel like I'm going to have three.

04:13:16.760 Did you, Greta, please lay off the pre-work count

04:13:18.500 before the show?

04:13:19.840 I love men.

04:13:20.880 I love men.

04:13:21.700 Man, they are equals.

04:13:23.740 We're yin and yang.

04:13:24.700 Why?

04:13:25.020 I wish we could just be...

04:13:25.620 Well, I'd love them too if I basically had to do nothing.

04:13:27.780 They just gave me everything that I wanted.

04:13:30.420 Here, let's get into...

04:13:31.560 Well, if we're reading my hate man white tweets,

04:13:33.360 we're going to be here for a while.

04:13:35.140 Let's get into it.

04:13:36.120 We'll try to move through them quick.

04:13:37.480 Am I supposed to...

04:13:38.120 But these are some of your tweets.

04:13:39.680 Yes.

04:13:40.200 Okay.

04:13:40.800 White, do you want to read them?

04:13:42.660 White men,

04:13:43.140 I especially don't need your opinion unsolicited.

04:13:47.340 2019.

04:13:48.480 Okay.

04:13:48.880 On brand.

04:13:50.520 Okay.

04:13:51.700 Why specifically white men?

04:13:54.260 I'm just curious.

04:13:55.460 It's always just white men.

04:13:57.380 That's just like some kind of problem.

04:13:59.340 I grew up in a predominantly mostly white neighborhood.

04:14:04.540 And it's just like one white man after the next is always the fucking problem.

04:14:08.380 Always starting some shit.

04:14:10.160 Always getting in a fight.

04:14:11.880 These are rich neighborhoods,

04:14:13.020 which I think are even worse because they have the money to try to do whatever the fuck they want.

04:14:17.520 The most times I've been in danger.

04:14:19.780 The most like anything like bad things is like always happening around white men.

04:14:24.960 What?

04:14:25.260 The most times that you've been in...

04:14:27.740 Let me ask you this.

04:14:29.320 Have you lived in predominantly non-white areas?

04:14:33.900 Now, yes.

04:14:35.400 And I'm usually the only white person in most places I go to.

04:14:39.180 So, I feel much more comfortable.

04:14:41.240 Well, just for the sake of getting through all the tweets, we have a ton.

04:14:44.740 So, maybe we'll...

04:14:45.920 Okay.

04:14:46.200 Next, Nick.

04:14:47.880 Men are pigs.

04:14:49.140 Yes.

04:14:49.560 Men are pigs.

04:14:50.440 2014.

04:14:51.060 Okay.

04:14:51.680 Low-key, I was like 16 there.

04:14:53.360 So, like...

04:14:54.800 Okay.

04:14:56.080 Still not wrong, but...

04:14:57.860 A little misandrist, maybe.

04:14:59.360 Don't you think?

04:14:59.980 Just a little bit.

04:15:00.920 Men are so gross.

04:15:02.200 They really are, though.

04:15:04.420 Wait, what?

04:15:05.680 Men are...

04:15:06.000 Men are gross.

04:15:08.240 Don't you think it's a little, you know, maybe a little sexist to say that?

04:15:15.300 Um...

04:15:15.580 Well, before you answer that...

04:15:16.920 That's a good question.

04:15:18.080 Do the girls at the table agree with what she's saying?

04:15:21.960 I love men.

04:15:24.180 Wait, sorry.

04:15:24.700 What did you say?

04:15:25.680 She said men are gross.

04:15:26.780 I said men are gross.

04:15:27.500 And men are trash.

04:15:28.120 They fart and leave hair places.

04:15:31.380 Yeah, women never do that, right?

04:15:33.080 Like, they're dirtier.

04:15:34.760 I guess that's true, statistically, yeah.

04:15:37.060 They had tentative horse hygiene.

04:15:38.340 One, yes.

04:15:38.860 Like, I'm not saying, like, gross, get away from me.

04:15:40.940 They menstruate, and they put their hair in the drains, and they...

04:15:44.900 Etc., etc., etc.

04:15:46.100 But we'll go further lengths to hide it.

04:15:48.000 Like, we could poop, and then we'd run out the street, like, two miles down to a Starbucks

04:15:51.960 at 6 a.m., try to come back, brush our teeth, and pretend like we never went on that.

04:15:55.480 Okay, look, I have five daughters, five.

04:15:57.500 Okay?

04:15:57.740 And what I'm telling you right now is that the mystery of femininity and their grossness...

04:16:03.780 But you're their dad.

04:16:04.900 I know all about it.

04:16:05.780 Yeah, my dad.

04:16:06.520 You're their dad.

04:16:07.760 Like, you're gonna see that.

04:16:09.200 Yeah, there's no mystery to the femininity anymore.

04:16:10.300 But you're not their husband.

04:16:11.500 We got some more tweets.

04:16:12.720 We got some more tweets here, so I'll just have you continue reading them.

04:16:15.400 I'm crying.

04:16:16.320 Here's your monthly update, June update.

04:16:19.580 Men are still trash.

04:16:22.440 Facts.

04:16:22.840 Okay, men are...

04:16:25.440 Okay, next, I guess.

04:16:27.860 November forecast.

04:16:29.140 Men are still trash.

04:16:30.500 I do the monthly update.

04:16:32.220 Like, it's my service to the people.

04:16:34.140 Do you agree with that, though?

04:16:35.060 I'm laughing, because honestly, a lot of the people in your chat are almost saying the same

04:16:38.700 thing, like, opposite.

04:16:40.160 A few of them, so I just think it's funny.

04:16:42.480 If there's any men...

04:16:43.160 I'm sure they have a lot of reaction.

04:16:44.440 Well, okay, if there's any men in the chat that are saying women are trash, I object to that.

04:16:49.120 I wasn't saying that you agree.

04:16:50.120 I know, but I just want to point out, I would object to a man in the chat or any man saying

04:16:54.200 that women are trash.

04:16:55.140 I wouldn't object to it now.

04:16:56.300 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

04:16:57.760 Okay, that was a joke.

04:16:58.820 That was a joke.

04:17:00.500 Oh, wait, that's not...

04:17:01.120 Was it?

04:17:02.300 He's joking.

04:17:03.020 I'm kidding.

04:17:03.780 Joking.

04:17:05.160 Okay.

04:17:05.480 Okay, next tweet.

04:17:06.960 Joking.

04:17:07.800 Wait.

04:17:08.780 Men, treat your women with respect and love.

04:17:11.760 Oh, my...

04:17:12.440 They disagree.

04:17:12.920 I don't object to that, really, but should women treat their men with respect and love?

04:17:18.200 Yes, it's a two-way street.

04:17:19.420 Okay, next.

04:17:20.360 Okay, that's fine.

04:17:21.360 Update, men are still trash.

04:17:23.420 Your opinion is very wrong.

04:17:25.160 Not every man is same.

04:17:26.660 Okay, all right.

04:17:28.260 Next.

04:17:29.460 Fuck men.

04:17:31.000 Okay, but can we get, like, current ones?

04:17:32.920 Like, these are from when I was, like, in high school.

04:17:34.960 No, well, okay, hold on.

04:17:36.340 20...

04:17:36.660 You're 28.

04:17:38.140 This was 2018, so you were 22.

04:17:39.840 Two years.

04:17:40.520 Okay, two years after high school.

04:17:41.880 20, right?

04:17:42.880 Well, no, what?

04:17:43.560 20, 14, 16.

04:17:45.000 20, 16.

04:17:45.780 Okay, you're right.

04:17:46.000 2018, 2019.

04:17:46.940 Yes.

04:17:47.440 Okay.

04:17:48.080 Okay, next.

04:17:49.020 20.

04:17:50.640 Men have the most fragile egos.

04:17:54.020 True.

04:17:55.300 That is true.

04:17:57.100 Do you think you're projecting a little bit?

04:18:00.340 Um...

04:18:01.060 Not really.

04:18:04.600 I don't, I don't feel it.

04:18:05.880 Who's asking?

04:18:06.500 Next.

04:18:06.800 I mean, that's a good question.

04:18:08.460 Besides white men in general, nothing triggers me more when a white man tells me to keep it

04:18:12.100 up when I'm working out.

04:18:13.440 Oh, yeah.

04:18:14.460 I hate that.

04:18:15.180 The reason I ask...

04:18:15.760 White guys, white, literally, all the time I'll work out, and they'll come up to me and,

04:18:19.960 like, be like, good job.

04:18:21.240 Keep going.

04:18:22.100 You got this.

04:18:23.200 But, like, they'll pass you money or, like, someone else behind me or in front of me and

04:18:26.560 says nothing to them.

04:18:28.860 Again, it's mostly...

04:18:29.700 Could you think of a reason why that might be off the top of your head?

04:18:33.040 Because they're amazed that a fat person does exercise.

04:18:36.340 So, it's, I mean, what, but think about that for a second, though.

04:18:41.420 Like, what you just said.

04:18:42.320 Like, that's like if you were in the 50s and, like, watched, like, a black person drink out

04:18:46.740 of a white water fountain, you're not going to be like, good for you.

04:18:49.200 No.

04:18:49.480 It's a little different.

04:18:50.220 No, it's not like that.

04:18:51.580 Maybe a little different.

04:18:52.220 An example, if I change my hair, because...

04:18:55.500 What are you doing to the microphone, lady?

04:18:57.480 You're literally rubbing your concealer on the tip of the microphone.

04:19:02.740 I'm cuddling with it.

04:19:04.820 Do you mind?

04:19:05.580 You're so high maintenance.

04:19:06.880 Okay.

04:19:07.720 We didn't even start dating, Brian.

04:19:09.500 What's that?

04:19:10.720 What?

04:19:11.940 We didn't even...

04:19:13.500 Okay.

04:19:13.980 All right.

04:19:14.260 It was a joke.

04:19:14.780 Okay.

04:19:15.020 Let's continue with the tweets.

04:19:16.340 I do agree a little bit with you.

04:19:17.440 I think that white men, generally speaking, have a higher chance getting away with being

04:19:23.100 insensitive.

04:19:24.560 What?

04:19:24.880 That's all I have to say.

04:19:26.980 Today?

04:19:27.500 I'm not sure about that.

04:19:27.960 No, no, no.

04:19:28.220 About her tweets.

04:19:29.420 But other than that, I love men.

04:19:30.720 No, I know, but I'm saying, like, today, you think that?

04:19:31.980 You think that white men get away with saying insensitive things more than other people?

04:19:36.220 Yes.

04:19:36.480 More than other...

04:19:37.420 I'm not sure about that.

04:19:38.080 Right now, today.

04:19:38.500 I'm not sure about that.

04:19:39.000 Yes.

04:19:39.200 I'm not sure about that.

04:19:39.840 Y'all are crazy.

04:19:40.380 Like, if you look at rap music, like, if I were to call a woman the B word...

04:19:44.460 Yeah, what are you talking about?

04:19:45.300 That's subjective, though, because I use bitch all the time.

04:19:48.000 That's not fair.

04:19:48.200 That's not fair.

04:19:48.400 I even have that debate with my therapist.

04:19:50.120 It's subjective.

04:19:51.120 I also make your point easier to use rap music to...

04:19:56.000 Well, because it's in rap music.

04:20:00.380 It...

04:20:00.660 They'd be thrown around the word bitch.

04:20:01.560 But that's a predominantly black thing, and we're talking about white men right now.

04:20:04.880 Okay, let's continue with the tweets.

04:20:06.020 But the contrast is to ask the question of...

04:20:08.220 Why does it matter what they're racist?

04:20:09.260 It's not okay.

04:20:10.020 Well, a white guy could make a rap song, and he's bringing up a rap, but that's like...

04:20:14.500 Yo, shout out Eminem.

04:20:15.380 What's up?

04:20:15.980 Yeah, they're just talking about...

04:20:16.420 But it is because it's talking about a rap song.

04:20:18.100 Shout out Ben...

04:20:18.560 You rap?

04:20:19.200 I rap.

04:20:19.560 Oh, pause the show.

04:20:20.900 Pause the fucking show.

04:20:21.780 Let's hear something.

04:20:22.900 Oh.

04:20:24.880 Doots.

04:20:25.800 What are you...

04:20:26.600 Doots.

04:20:28.900 Let's go.

04:20:29.460 Come on.

04:20:29.740 Drop it.

04:20:30.120 Drop it.

04:20:30.460 Drop it.

04:20:30.780 Drop it.

04:20:33.220 Come on.

04:20:34.440 Come on.

04:20:34.640 Come on.

04:20:35.060 Let's hear the rap.

04:20:35.720 Imagine if I did that.

04:20:36.540 Let's hear the...

04:20:37.140 Okay.

04:20:38.280 Okay, wait.

04:20:38.960 You got it.

04:20:41.680 Okay, let me see.

04:20:43.980 Can't hold my breath.

04:20:45.100 Can't hold my tongue.

04:20:46.020 Think I'm naive or really that dumb.

04:20:47.880 Life in the trap.

04:20:48.680 Already so rough.

04:20:49.580 You're lucky I'm flossing and don't have my gun.

04:20:51.360 It's on and it's popping.

04:20:52.280 Get ready to run.

04:20:53.240 One time before, already too much.

04:20:55.080 I cut the cords and I'm calling your bluff.

04:20:56.900 I was so lucky.

04:20:57.860 Lucky for what?

04:20:58.620 That was dope.

04:21:03.260 That was the shit.

04:21:04.240 You have to do a mic tip.

04:21:07.220 Boom.

04:21:07.680 That was the shit, son.

04:21:08.860 Okay.

04:21:10.060 Next tweet.

04:21:12.140 Ew, you're so disgusting.

04:21:13.880 Hashtag men.

04:21:15.720 2015.

04:21:16.760 Ooh, that was a tough year.

04:21:18.100 A little misandrist, don't you think?

04:21:19.440 Okay.

04:21:20.260 Sorry.

04:21:20.720 What does misandrist mean?

04:21:21.760 It's the opposite of misogyny.

04:21:23.620 Okay.

04:21:23.780 The hatred contempt.

04:21:24.940 Ooh.

04:21:25.580 Okay.

04:21:26.060 Of men.

04:21:26.920 God cursed me with a middle-aged and African men hitting on me.

04:21:30.740 Oh.

04:21:31.480 Okay.

04:21:32.180 Okay.

04:21:32.480 That's like 2010.

04:21:33.800 That's like.

04:21:34.160 Yeah, that's a long time ago.

04:21:35.000 That's eighth grade.

04:21:36.360 No.

04:21:36.740 Hold on.

04:21:37.220 But I love African men.

04:21:39.080 No, they can be a lot.

04:21:39.740 I mean, now.

04:21:39.900 It didn't sound like you liked them that much then.

04:21:42.280 Well, that's also when I was growing up with like seventh grade Republican.

04:21:45.740 Okay.

04:21:46.260 Do you want to?

04:21:46.700 Go ahead.

04:21:47.500 Men are disgusting pigs.

04:21:48.780 I'm sick to my stomach.

04:21:51.480 I like how you emphasize these.

04:21:53.280 Like, these are how they sounded in my head.

04:21:55.380 No, exactly.

04:21:56.460 I will grant you that was in 2011.

04:21:58.100 Do you still feel that way?

04:22:02.340 Not so much now.

04:22:03.740 I mean, realistically, I was 14 during that time.

04:22:07.100 Well, no, you said you're 28.

04:22:08.640 So, 2011.

04:22:10.000 2010.

04:22:10.980 Well, that most recent one, I think, was 2011.

04:22:13.400 Wait.

04:22:13.440 Okay.

04:22:14.380 So, that's a year after eighth grade.

04:22:16.680 10 years ago.

04:22:17.400 15.

04:22:17.520 Oh, okay.

04:22:18.460 Yeah.

04:22:18.680 I grew up in a very conservative, like, racist-ass, like, neighborhood area.

04:22:24.300 Orange County?

04:22:24.960 I, yeah.

04:22:25.860 I grew up in Orange County.

04:22:26.960 We had some OC girls.

04:22:28.340 And so, I used to be like a whole different person.

04:22:32.860 Shout out OC.

04:22:34.000 Just kidding.

04:22:34.440 You know, you wouldn't.

04:22:35.980 I can see those tweets.

04:22:37.380 I get it.

04:22:37.560 Want to see the tweets?

04:22:38.240 See the more tweets?

04:22:39.560 The real world makes me hate men even more.

04:22:41.760 Are you talking about the show?

04:22:42.800 The show, okay.

04:22:43.640 Yeah.

04:22:44.600 But it makes you, the show makes you hate men.

04:22:47.220 Yeah.

04:22:47.560 But now I know more about reality TV and I've been on reality TV to know.

04:22:51.800 Even more than you already did.

04:22:52.400 Okay.

04:22:52.720 Next.

04:22:53.120 Yes.

04:22:54.540 Today, I wish I had a little shirt that said, I hate men.

04:22:57.340 That'd be so cute in a crop top.

04:22:59.680 2017.

04:23:01.200 Is it hilarious?

04:23:02.480 Yes.

04:23:03.300 Would you, if I had a shirt that said, I hate women, would that be hilarious?

04:23:07.100 That'd be low-key iconic.

04:23:07.860 Oh, I'm laughing because I've just known her for so long and I just think it's funny.

04:23:13.180 Is it funny?

04:23:14.600 I think it's sad.

04:23:15.080 I'm laughing, so it is.

04:23:16.220 Well, there's no homicidal misandress.

04:23:18.120 Like if you wore a shirt that said, I hate women, you'd be akin to like people like Christopher

04:23:21.340 Harper Mercer, Elliot Rogers, incels who have actually left those kind of posts on Facebook

04:23:25.100 and then killed like a dozen women.

04:23:26.860 I think you have something for this, Andrew.

04:23:28.220 No, I'm just saying that a woman has never said, I hate men and then gone and killed 12

04:23:31.600 men.

04:23:31.740 No, no, they do.

04:23:32.760 They just do it in their nursing roles.

04:23:34.620 See, what they do is they do it over time in nursing roles and in roles where they're

04:23:38.980 supposed to be taking care of children, things like this.

04:23:41.340 That's when women kill.

04:23:42.740 Wait, can you elaborate?

04:23:43.540 Yeah.

04:23:43.860 So for instance, women who are in roles where they're taking care of children, okay?

04:23:49.640 Whatever that role is, far more likely, far more likely in those roles, right?

04:23:54.860 To hurt those, hurt those children over time.

04:23:57.700 The male children?

04:23:58.380 I'm talking about the homicidal.

04:23:59.220 Are you talking?

04:23:59.740 Yeah.

04:24:00.000 Are you talking?

04:24:00.380 Male children?

04:24:01.100 Yes.

04:24:01.440 Well, they have to be a specific male.

04:24:02.940 Well, they kill the, what I'm saying is that women, women kill, they just kill differently.

04:24:08.420 So when you're like, the hatred towards women is an indicator that the men are going to

04:24:13.360 hurt women.

04:24:14.420 It's like, well, but it's, it's an indicator both ways.

04:24:16.500 It's just that because women kill differently and much more sadistically, in my opinion,

04:24:22.000 it's even more sadistic.

04:24:23.840 That's not to say that they don't, if they have a problem towards men, kill them because

04:24:28.460 they clearly do.

04:24:29.220 They just do it in capacity of caregiver, nurse, things like this.

04:24:32.240 Wait, you're saying they disproportionately harm male children?

04:24:36.140 Well, if they hate men, yes.

04:24:38.080 Also, there's a statistic that women are disproportionately hurting male children.

04:24:43.320 Well, yeah.

04:24:43.720 Well, let me give you an easy example of them disproportionately hurting male children.

04:24:47.900 A lot of female teachers, do they think they have sex with more male children or female

04:24:52.760 children?

04:24:53.320 And you think those are the type of women who are wearing a shirt that maybe says, I hate

04:24:56.420 men, like, and that they test positive for misandry?

04:24:58.360 That's not what your question was.

04:24:59.760 It was related to him saying whether a shirt would be any type of indication.

04:25:03.040 No, no, no.

04:25:03.420 You're changing the goalposts.

04:25:04.440 Your question specifically, your, your, your question to me specifically was, are you saying

04:25:11.080 that women harm male children more?

04:25:13.480 Because that was in response to the idea that if a man wears a shirt that says, I hate

04:25:17.000 women, it's usually, it's usually correlated to being in an incel community, which does,

04:25:22.060 is a, you know, maybe you are a proponent of violence.

04:25:24.520 Can I just say, so are you fine with the shirt?

04:25:27.040 I didn't say I was fine with it.

04:25:27.980 I'm just saying you're trying to make it, you drew an analogy and said it was a pure

04:25:31.040 parallel to say, having a shirt that says, I hate women.

04:25:33.440 And I'm saying it's not, it is, it's, it's not, but you, but I also want to like, be

04:25:38.760 like, be real with me.

04:25:39.900 No, no, no, no.

04:25:40.480 What would be the pure parallel?

04:25:41.820 There is no pure parallel because as much as she tweets, men are gross.

04:25:44.920 She's never going to be so incentivized that she goes and kills 12.

04:25:47.480 How do you know that?

04:25:49.040 Even if she's curved by 12 fuckboys in one year, she's never going to go kill.

04:25:52.440 That just doesn't happen.

04:25:53.560 How do you know that?

04:25:54.580 Okay, hold on.

04:25:54.980 Where are the stories?

04:25:55.880 Where are the statistics?

04:25:57.180 Yes.

04:25:57.660 Caregiver positions.

04:25:58.780 They do kill.

04:25:59.640 I don't know where you come up with this idea.

04:26:01.060 And then show a tweet of those caregivers saying, I hate men.

04:26:03.920 We're drawing a correlation between misandry and disproportionately harming men.

04:26:07.240 Are you serious?

04:26:08.140 There's whole books that are devoted on this topic about how female serial killers are often,

04:26:12.740 they're mad at men because they were abused or because of any number of different problems

04:26:16.520 they have with men specifically.

04:26:18.320 Just like male serial killers.

04:26:19.120 It's a huge red flag.

04:26:21.180 Female serial killers are espousing misandry?

04:26:23.220 So let me get, so here, I'll give you an example of this.

04:26:25.340 Let's say that I, I had a nurse, I was like, um, in a hospital laid up or something.

04:26:30.080 And I went on this nurse's Twitter and it had all the tweets that were like this.

04:26:34.140 I think that wouldn't be a red flag for me to be like, yeah, maybe don't come in my

04:26:37.260 room and play with my IV.

04:26:38.860 Maybe don't come in here and change my drift.

04:26:40.860 Okay, I'll give you that.

04:26:41.680 That's like a fair thing.

04:26:42.980 But also I do, I want to, I want you guys to be really real with me right now.

04:26:46.600 Okay.

04:26:47.300 Those tweets, majority of them, let's be real.

04:26:50.080 2010, 2018, I'm still living at home.

04:26:52.720 I have a father who punches me in the face, strangles me, throws furniture at me, beats

04:26:57.300 me up against an oven, does all sorts of things, killed me almost three times.

04:27:01.920 That's wrong.

04:27:02.380 Like all these things.

04:27:03.860 You don't think, I'm not saying those are right, but you don't think me tweeting at

04:27:07.520 14 being like, I hate men is like the worst thing.

04:27:10.440 Like, look, it's like a diary.

04:27:11.660 You weren't at 14 though.

04:27:13.080 But those were chronics between 14 and 20 years old of when I still lived in.

04:27:17.360 You have much more recent posts where you say men are trash, men are gross, men suck.

04:27:20.580 Those are much more recent.

04:27:21.320 But not only that, he asked you this, right?

04:27:23.780 So this is fine to give that qualifier.

04:27:25.600 And I also said I was coming out of my manhitting face.

04:27:27.560 Yeah.

04:27:27.840 Hey, it's fine for you to have that qualifier and I'll say, okay, sure.

04:27:31.300 That's a fair qualifier.

04:27:32.320 Except he asked you literally five, six minutes ago.

04:27:36.180 Hey, do you still feel this way?

04:27:39.060 And you were like, kind of.

04:27:40.380 Yeah, kind of.

04:27:41.280 So it's like, well, it doesn't really matter when they were written.

04:27:45.760 I mean, cause I think they're hilarious.

04:27:47.320 But you think it's funny to say that men are trash, men are gross.

04:27:52.040 I would actually argue, I mean, because you were saying, well, what's the impact?

04:27:56.440 It's pretty shocking to me that, for example, if a man were to say those same things, you

04:28:01.680 just replace a man with women, you would get in major trouble.

04:28:07.880 You'd get canceled.

04:28:08.700 But here she is.

04:28:09.240 She's a supermodel.

04:28:09.920 There's also, well, her own words.

04:28:12.000 She's, you're booking gigs.

04:28:13.500 You've got all these, like.

04:28:15.140 Booked and booed.

04:28:15.680 That's cancelable.

04:28:16.640 Well, that would be in a cancelable offense if you were a man to say, I hate women.

04:28:20.580 That's also backed by, like, how you said men are the almost sheer enforcers of power.

04:28:26.680 They're stronger than us.

04:28:28.040 So if I'm going back to what you said, men are always stronger than women.

04:28:31.960 They're always the bigger ones.

04:28:32.840 They can enforce everything.

04:28:34.440 So if we use those parallels and a man is tweeting that, you can look at it from the lens that

04:28:39.960 he can actually enforce, I hate women.

04:28:42.140 He can actually go overpower a woman versus from you and what you said about the power dynamics.

04:28:49.280 First of all, the most, I didn't say that every man goes and beats and hurts women.

04:28:55.800 But if you think that we, you think that there's no violence against women just for having a vagina and there's a violence against, there is violence.

04:29:04.260 I'm not saying there isn't.

04:29:05.320 And I'm just saying there's violence against femininity.

04:29:07.700 And I'm just, hold on, if you switch the tweets, statistics would show that if a man's expressing

04:29:14.940 those things, it might be a little bit, come out a little bit more violent and a little

04:29:18.600 bit more dangerous than a woman.

04:29:20.360 This is just.

04:29:20.980 Let me ask, okay, let me ask you guys.

04:29:22.200 Also being part of the LGBT community, this is kind of like.

04:29:26.280 Let's not get into the weeds here.

04:29:28.120 Do you guys, do you guys know who Andy Warhol is?

04:29:31.180 Yes.

04:29:31.860 Okay.

04:29:33.000 What happened to Andy Warhol?

04:29:34.260 Well, like in terms of what, death, life, art?

04:29:39.020 He was murdered.

04:29:40.300 Yeah.

04:29:40.840 By?

04:29:41.760 A woman.

04:29:42.820 Who was a raging anti-male feminist.

04:29:47.080 She wrote a book called The Scum Manifesto.

04:29:49.800 Yes.

04:29:49.960 Her name was Valerie Solanus.

04:29:51.900 Yes.

04:29:52.080 So this idea that women are not, one, capable of violence or that they don't inflict violence.

04:29:57.120 Who said that?

04:29:58.460 You just showed us what they do.

04:29:59.800 You just showed us what they do.

04:29:59.820 You just showed us what they do.

04:29:59.840 You just showed us what they do.

04:30:00.760 You just showed us what they do.

04:30:00.880 You're writing a manifesto versus tweets between four times.

04:30:04.120 No, no, no, but Farha was making the point, Farha was making the point that, that misandry

04:30:10.700 does not lead to violence when actually it, it has.

04:30:14.380 You like the statistics.

04:30:15.500 I think what she was trying to say, and correct me if I'm wrong, it's less likely.

04:30:18.680 Yeah, but let's just assume, let's assume for a second that, so none of that's true,

04:30:22.700 but let's just assume it is.

04:30:24.360 Let's just say that it was only less likely by 10%.

04:30:27.640 Okay.

04:30:28.700 That's a big chunk of people.

04:30:29.580 But who cares?

04:30:30.560 That's still a massive, it would still be a massive problem and a massive red flag for

04:30:34.580 you to say, yes, women do it too.

04:30:37.120 They act out with misandry.

04:30:38.440 They just do it 10% less than men.

04:30:40.320 So what?

04:30:40.920 Wouldn't it still be a massive red flag that we should watch out for and still, still,

04:30:45.120 still looking at it the same way we would at men?

04:30:47.340 If I'm being very honest, a lot of men usually like that.

04:30:49.720 I say that stuff because, yeah, the reason being is they think it deters other men.

04:30:57.040 So they're like, oh, the woman who hates men chose me.

04:31:00.940 She must love me.

04:31:02.240 They think she won't cheat because she's a misandrist is what she's saying.

04:31:04.860 And so most guys that I love when I say that, they're like, oh my, yeah, like you're only

04:31:12.480 fucking with me.

04:31:13.440 I'm special.

04:31:15.160 I know it sounds crazy, but that, I mean, that checks out, but also I want to point

04:31:19.020 out a different, when she's tweeting, I hate men, she's saying it because it's chic.

04:31:23.020 And like she pointed out, she was participating in hookup culture because of Cardi B. It's

04:31:26.100 not because I don't think she actually has, if you were to put her on a like lie detector

04:31:29.960 test, I don't think she actually has hatred towards men.

04:31:32.360 I don't think she actually, I don't think she actually gets off on violence towards men.

04:31:35.980 I think a lot of men though, who do have those shirts, I think they do feel rejected

04:31:39.320 from women.

04:31:39.740 I think they feel ostracized in society.

04:31:41.340 And I think they do have uniquely bad feelings towards women.

04:31:44.940 I, I 100% would bet my life that she does not.

04:31:47.440 And girls who tweet things like that are just trying to be fashionable.

04:31:49.680 The only person I ever wanted to like her was my father.

04:31:53.020 Why are you making these assumptions?

04:31:54.380 It's a panel.

04:31:55.220 But I mean, she's pretty like on the spot with that.

04:31:58.160 No, but you can't walk back.

04:31:58.980 But that's why I mentioned gay culture because in gay culture, being for the girls, gays, and

04:32:03.160 they's that like what she's saying.

04:32:04.460 Even gay men tweet like, I hate boys.

04:32:06.320 It's a statement.

04:32:06.640 It's a trend.

04:32:08.000 And that, no offense, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

04:32:09.620 I think it's clerny and they shouldn't say it, but it's not at all parallel to misogyny.

04:32:12.980 And how?

04:32:14.080 At some point, degrading and making jokes about your wife or whatever was almost as fashionable

04:32:19.620 as saying, I hate men.

04:32:20.840 Like back in the days, men would sit around and love.

04:32:22.300 Like, oh, women, right?

04:32:23.900 Hold on.

04:32:24.520 Provide the breeding ground for the violence that we're speaking about.

04:32:27.000 But to address your point that it's chic or cool or quirky to hate men, how emblematic

04:32:34.160 is it of a just failure of society that men are not given respect and that it's a joke

04:32:41.920 to hate men, that it's acceptable to hate men?

04:32:45.200 That would be bigger evidence of male description.

04:32:48.680 Because if you say, I hate women, the forces of feminism will descend upon you and you're

04:32:54.500 going to get canceled, you'll get kicked out of school, you're going to lose opportunities.

04:32:58.140 But nobody bats an eye if a woman says things that are misandric or hateful towards men.

04:33:04.260 First of all, that's not true.

04:33:05.420 I think you should take a look at the streaming community.

04:33:07.420 Kick is just drenched in misogyny and people making like anti-women jokes.

04:33:10.860 Yeah, but it's just quirky.

04:33:12.000 No, it's not.

04:33:13.600 No, my point was he was saying they would get canceled.

04:33:15.240 The history of violence against women is a way more extreme than men.

04:33:19.520 They're not going to be deplatformed.

04:33:21.160 According to you guys, your argument is this is just quirky, right?

04:33:26.980 This is just quirky.

04:33:28.020 I think there's truth to it.

04:33:29.080 We're funnin'.

04:33:29.380 We're funnin', right?

04:33:30.300 Yes, yeah.

04:33:30.800 That's what I was saying.

04:33:31.640 I think it's fine for those kick boys to say that because I think they're just poking

04:33:35.880 fun and I think they're being stupid.

04:33:38.280 I don't think it's...

04:33:39.640 Let me ask you a question.

04:33:41.020 Let's assume what she's saying is not a joke.

04:33:43.520 Is it still funny?

04:33:44.500 It's half true.

04:33:45.820 If women were to mean it, it's one thing.

04:33:47.480 I don't think she means it because these women are still down bad for male attention.

04:33:50.700 I think the guys who do say I hate women, I think they genuinely feel it because they

04:33:54.520 feel rejected and ostracized by women.

04:33:56.760 Men, I put it this way.

04:33:58.580 What evidence do you have for that?

04:33:59.200 Like a girl will be like, oh, that guy blew me off or he like slept with my best friend

04:34:03.700 and then you're like, oh, I hate men.

04:34:05.400 And then like a girl will literally not give you her number and he'll fucking murder you

04:34:10.260 and she'll follow you home.

04:34:12.300 What percentage?

04:34:13.600 What percentage?

04:34:14.720 I've been essayed five times and it's all from rejection.

04:34:18.640 First off, that's terrible that that happened.

04:34:22.820 However, the example that you gave was that women are just en masse wholesale getting murdered

04:34:31.300 for rejecting men.

04:34:32.860 That's very rare.

04:34:34.700 It does happen.

04:34:35.740 It does happen.

04:34:36.420 But that's an extremely exceptional case.

04:34:38.060 Okay, so then I must be like the biggest outlier today.

04:34:40.980 Girls, yikes.

04:34:42.140 Enjoy your lonely man-hating life.

04:34:44.760 Ensure your husband will be enthused in saving his children rather than yourself.

04:34:49.680 Why save you?

04:34:50.880 You hate men.

04:34:52.260 Why save you?

04:34:53.120 And remember that you're...

04:34:54.240 Simply men haters.

04:34:54.980 I love men.

04:34:55.340 Save me from what?

04:34:56.420 You're emotionally close to that, right?

04:34:58.440 So I understand that you're emotionally close to it, but disconnect being emotional from

04:35:02.760 it for a second.

04:35:03.400 Okay.

04:35:03.720 Let us assume for a second that you can agree with me that at least some women, some, just

04:35:10.100 some, who will make tweets like this and are misandrous will act out in a way which

04:35:16.360 is harmful to males by either poisoning them, perhaps, like has been done in the past or

04:35:22.220 things like, okay.

04:35:23.040 So even if you just grant that it's some, even if it's only 10% of what it is for men

04:35:27.860 or 30% of what it is for men, then you would still have to look at it and say, that's

04:35:32.720 also bad and shouldn't happen the same way you would for men, right?

04:35:37.220 No, because the disparity in percents is what makes the difference.

04:35:39.780 Why?

04:35:40.240 It's so big.

04:35:41.820 That's ridiculous.

04:35:42.380 And we're not talking about like, oh, we have to do that.

04:35:44.160 When men hate women, they're watching violent, torturous porn of women.

04:35:47.820 Like, don't you think there are just stronger correlations between misogyny and actually

04:35:51.040 getting off on women being harmed than her?

04:35:53.320 I don't think she would feel any joy watching a man get beat in porn, but I think men who

04:35:57.280 say, I hate women, they are watching torture porn.

04:35:59.120 I'll prove it to you.

04:36:00.060 I'll prove it to you.

04:36:00.620 So let's take, um, man, I got to frame my language carefully here, but let's assume

04:36:06.620 for a second that one of those school events, you know what I'm talking about, right?

04:36:10.560 A school event perpetrated by a man.

04:36:12.880 Okay.

04:36:13.360 Okay.

04:36:14.400 Uh, one of those types of events, let's assume we'll, we'll, we're going to say like almost

04:36:20.380 all of them are done by men, right?

04:36:21.840 Um, but like, let's say hypothetically that 10 or 20% of them were done by women.

04:36:27.560 Any of the tweets that would lead you down the same primrose path of thinking about men

04:36:33.280 in that category that would lead to you thinking they would do that?

04:36:36.620 Whatever women tweeted out the same things that were similar to that.

04:36:39.500 Shouldn't it be the same red flag?

04:36:40.880 Yeah.

04:36:41.840 I mean, if you're tweeting murder, find the, I love men tweets.

04:36:46.500 Well, literally the, I love, one is a call.

04:36:48.800 The, I love dick tweets are all over there.

04:36:50.920 You're incriminate, incriminating yourself.

04:36:52.800 No, not always.

04:36:53.720 They're not all, they don't always incriminate themselves by saying, I'm going to go do this

04:36:57.080 thing, but they have red flag like behavior that leads to them doing the thing.

04:37:01.260 I, but earlier I even told you I had the chance to murder my father and I didn't, and

04:37:04.780 I could have gotten away with it in self-defense.

04:37:06.520 Gotta be careful in that language, right?

04:37:08.220 But like, I, I had the, I literally had the opportunity and had the chance to get away

04:37:12.940 with it and I didn't do it.

04:37:14.320 Yeah, I know.

04:37:14.800 I know.

04:37:15.360 But try to understand the kind of the way that you're making your arguments, kind of the

04:37:20.580 way you're making your arguments and pushing your kind of worldview is to say I'm

04:37:23.980 very emotionally close and so therefore true, right?

04:37:27.080 The Nashville Christian school murderers stand out as a written and entire manifesto of

04:37:32.340 hate.

04:37:32.960 Men will get into a fight and kick each other's ass.

04:37:35.040 Women will poison or shoot you in the back.

04:37:37.060 What about war?

04:37:38.140 What?

04:37:39.160 You, men are, he literally just, you said that they are the almost sole enforcers of

04:37:45.500 brute.

04:37:45.880 No, no, no, no.

04:37:47.540 Listen, you keep misinterpreting what I'm saying.

04:37:52.180 I'm just repeating that to you.

04:37:52.500 I didn't say that because, because men are the enforcement arm.

04:37:56.620 That that means that they're in some way inherently violent.

04:38:00.740 They are inherently violent.

04:38:02.480 I'm saying that they are.

04:38:03.980 No, again, not all of them.

04:38:06.600 But if we're talking about outliers, then the outliers in this case would be the men who

04:38:11.880 are.

04:38:12.000 So hang on.

04:38:12.500 Hang on.

04:38:12.580 So when I'm talking about force and we're talking about inherent violence, then what I'm

04:38:16.560 saying here is that the inherent violence, which is used to protect your rights, that's

04:38:21.480 good force for you, right?

04:38:23.860 Men are inherently violent.

04:38:25.460 No, I mean, I'm ACAP, so that's not really like.

04:38:28.100 No, but that misses the point.

04:38:29.940 The point is to say that violence itself is not bad.

04:38:34.000 It's not inherently bad.

04:38:35.360 It's only bad when it's used for a bad purpose, right?

04:38:39.780 Can you like, generally, can you give me an example of when violence would be used for

04:38:43.760 good?

04:38:43.880 Yeah, like if a man is using violence to protect your life, you wouldn't consider that to be

04:38:46.740 bad violence.

04:38:47.360 You would consider that like good violence, right?

04:38:48.980 I guess.

04:38:49.440 Yeah, yeah.

04:38:49.840 So that's all I'm saying.

04:38:51.420 So I'm just saying she's misinterpreting what I'm saying about enforcement.

04:38:54.400 No, no.

04:38:54.880 I'm just saying.

04:38:55.460 That doesn't mean that it's non-benevolent.

04:38:57.820 Because enforcement of your rights would be a benevolent thing.

04:39:00.140 It's to kind of what we're speaking about in the fact that women on a larger scale face

04:39:05.060 more violence from men than if you look at it on the other way.

04:39:07.960 I'm not saying that.

04:39:08.720 They don't.

04:39:09.420 Hold on.

04:39:09.960 I'm not saying that no woman has ever punched a man that they're dating.

04:39:13.720 For example, men I date, I couldn't hurt them if I tried, unless I had like a knife

04:39:21.280 or a gun.

04:39:22.080 I'm so little.

04:39:23.320 Really, if I wanted to like, I would really have to work to like really physically harm most

04:39:28.420 men that I date versus on the other hand, a man, most of the guys, I'm little, a guy

04:39:33.080 could probably smack me one good time and whatever.

04:39:36.620 So bringing that back to we face, we're more likely to just, we face more violence.

04:39:43.180 I think it's the opposite.

04:39:44.700 So I see women hitting men all the time and men just take it.

04:39:48.540 I see it everywhere all the time.

04:39:51.040 Non-stop.

04:39:51.360 You see why?

04:39:52.120 I'm not making an excuse for anyone.

04:39:52.780 Women hit men constantly and they don't do anything about it.

04:39:55.260 That's exactly what I'm saying though.

04:39:56.520 But this is exactly what I'm saying.

04:39:58.260 I can hit a man.

04:39:59.420 I'm not saying it makes it right.

04:40:01.040 I would have to hit you probably five more times to hurt you than you would have to.

04:40:05.200 Disagree or agree.

04:40:06.060 Agree or disagree.

04:40:06.940 I'm not making it right.

04:40:08.240 It's not cool if you hit men.

04:40:09.300 Okay, listen, I know, I know.

04:40:10.780 I'm trying to answer your question.

04:40:12.340 So I would agree that yes, you might have to apply much more force than a man, but violence

04:40:17.720 is still violence, right?

04:40:19.100 So it's still, even if you hit a man and it hurts less than when a man hits the man, who's

04:40:24.040 the conductor of the violence if the man doesn't hit him and you do?

04:40:26.560 Wait, I got something really good on this.

04:40:28.560 That's the point.

04:40:29.100 I got something really good on this.

04:40:30.320 So my understanding when it comes to, I believe it's non-reciprocal DV, the rates are actually

04:40:36.600 the same between men and women.

04:40:39.780 One very interesting statistic is that the domestic violence rate amongst lesbian women is, I believe,

04:40:48.260 much, much higher than between gay men.

04:40:51.720 It's 70%.

04:40:52.560 So if violence is a male thing, how do we explain that in homosexual relationships with two

04:41:01.760 women versus two men, where you've removed that dynamic, how can it be that the domestic

04:41:09.800 violence rate is substantially higher in female-female relationships as compared to male-male

04:41:15.580 relationships?

04:41:16.200 And you're welcome to look up the stats on that, but it's been studied thoroughly.

04:41:21.420 It's 70% of all the domestic violence inside of homosexual groups is female-on-female.

04:41:28.160 I mean, again, I'm not disagreeing.

04:41:31.260 I believe the numbers, but I kind of feel like, I don't know.

04:41:38.800 That's good.

04:41:39.820 Oh.

04:41:40.460 Sorry, sorry.

04:41:41.220 I was just, go ahead, go ahead.

04:41:43.560 What was I just saying?

04:41:47.400 You were saying you believe the numbers.

04:41:49.060 Oh, oh, oh.

04:41:49.960 I think I could say, I don't know.

04:41:53.900 I feel like women are maybe a little bit more emotionally, like, reactionary in terms

04:42:00.260 of, like, when it comes to being in a relationship and reacting to, for the most part, we'll probably

04:42:07.820 react a little bit quicker or, like, a little bit more, with more force or energy or emotion.

04:42:14.660 Violence.

04:42:15.160 In terms of, yeah.

04:42:16.640 Violence, yeah.

04:42:17.420 You could use the word, well, I'm saying emotion because I'm saying, like, which it doesn't,

04:42:21.340 it's not, abuse is yelling, yelling, screaming, whatever, kicking, violence, whatever.

04:42:26.280 So, all those things, like, we maybe, maybe get a little bit more amped up when it comes

04:42:31.660 to, like, being in relationships.

04:42:33.720 So, maybe that's why.

04:42:35.020 But, I mean, for the most part, like, I don't think that.

04:42:38.780 So, the only reason, so, by that logic, then, the only reason that women aren't smacking

04:42:43.120 men when they're inside of relationships with them is because the man can hit her harder.

04:42:47.720 Probably.

04:42:48.980 I'm not going to lie.

04:42:49.780 So, that would mean that inherently you're saying that women are more violent than men.

04:42:53.220 Well, just like.

04:42:54.000 That's what you'd be saying.

04:42:55.100 But, we're talking about men versus women acting on their violence.

04:42:59.620 Right, but if you're saying that, no, it's actually that women are more violent.

04:43:04.300 It's just that there's a deterrent.

04:43:06.140 Women have violence in them.

04:43:06.900 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

04:43:07.360 Let me finish.

04:43:07.880 Let me finish.

04:43:08.520 I'm sure you wanted to smack a girl before and you didn't because you're a guy.

04:43:12.580 You would hurt her.

04:43:13.240 Yeah, but that's my point.

04:43:14.500 That's the what stopped you, though.

04:43:15.700 Yeah, but you're saying here, honestly saying here, that women are more violent than men and

04:43:22.840 that the only reason, at least in relationships, you must be because you say that the reason

04:43:27.360 that they attack each other in same-sex relationships more is because they're more violent.

04:43:32.320 They just don't do that to men because men can hit them harder, so they have to restrain

04:43:36.640 themselves from striking them, which means that if you were to reverse the role and

04:43:40.920 say that men were the weaker sex, that women would be way more abusive to them than men

04:43:46.340 are to women.

04:43:48.800 Gotcha, bitch.

04:43:49.860 Okay.

04:43:52.440 Just say it.

04:43:53.360 I mean, that's crazy.

04:43:54.200 I was also, I was just, you asked why it wasn't necessary.

04:43:58.120 I was just saying what might the possibility be.

04:44:01.060 I still stand out.

04:44:01.800 Let me do a couple chats, then we got some more tweets.

04:44:04.000 We got Seberg traditions are experiments that worked.

04:44:06.520 If you choose to take the untraditional path, it is your choice, but it does not, it does

04:44:10.160 come with increased risk.

04:44:11.780 Also, Mira seems crazy enough to have, did I say it wrong, to have fun with, but no more.

04:44:17.600 Do you want to respond to that?

04:44:19.160 Myra?

04:44:20.260 Did I say, is it Mira?

04:44:22.520 Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, my bad.

04:44:25.480 She's making a spectacle.

04:44:28.300 She looks like a sleepy dog.

04:44:30.140 You know when dogs get sleepy?

04:44:32.180 Not, no, that wasn't like, it's like a cute dog.

04:44:35.800 No, I wasn't, you know, trying to.

04:44:37.440 There's an energy drink right here.

04:44:38.840 Someone to get, let's give, wait, did you get that just for her, Nick?

04:44:41.320 Yes, I did it right here.

04:44:42.180 Mira.

04:44:43.340 Give her, give her that energy drink.

04:44:44.680 Give her, do a little, okay.

04:44:47.140 We haven't got that long ago.

04:44:48.080 We got Davon Jackson.

04:44:49.000 While women who hate men are less likely to act out physically towards men than use other

04:44:53.840 avenues such as gossip, innuendo, and reputation destruction, more likely to finesse financially

04:44:59.140 and spread falsehood.

04:45:01.320 That is, I think.

04:45:02.700 Okay.

04:45:03.100 I agree with that.

04:45:04.000 Yeah, maybe women are more sneaky with their violence against men, but it's not like physically

04:45:09.940 harming them.

04:45:10.940 I mean, we're just talking about physical violence, though.

04:45:14.800 That was really nice.

04:45:15.260 And emotion.

04:45:16.720 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely the case.

04:45:18.420 Financially and emotionally, women are hurting men.

04:45:22.080 Women can be abusive.

04:45:22.580 I mean, reputation destruction is huge.

04:45:24.480 Like, that's frequently used, you know, so.

04:45:28.760 I think that only really works if you live in, like, a small town, but.

04:45:32.720 I mean, well.

04:45:33.720 Dick and pussies everywhere.

04:45:35.020 No, no.

04:45:35.800 I mean, the big problem is, like, workplace, right?

04:45:41.920 Just workplace.

04:45:42.920 Yeah.

04:45:42.960 You can destroy a man's reputation inside of the workplace, spread rumors, things like

04:45:46.800 that.

04:45:47.420 Now you have isolated the area in which most of his peers are.

04:45:51.860 Okay.

04:45:52.360 So, yeah, you could use gossip and slander to really good effect by just kind of narrowing

04:45:57.220 the pool as to where it'll hurt most.

04:45:59.040 You're right.

04:45:59.480 Big city, just screaming at the rooftop, this guy's a piece of shit.

04:46:02.880 That doesn't do anything.

04:46:04.040 But spreading the rumors around his small workplace, that would do something.

04:46:08.060 Yeah.

04:46:08.940 We're trying.

04:46:09.380 How am I doing that in the workplace, though?

04:46:11.020 Well, usually they send an email, they call, they do things like that, or they talk to the

04:46:16.120 wives who are, you know, coworkers, that type of thing.

04:46:19.000 Let's get some tweets.

04:46:19.980 Let's get some tweets.

04:46:21.080 More tweets.

04:46:21.740 We got more tweets.

04:46:22.800 Go ahead.

04:46:23.240 Boys, boys, boys, where the real men at?

04:46:26.600 Okay.

04:46:27.140 This one, you know, where's the real men?

04:46:28.880 Where are they?

04:46:29.400 Really?

04:46:29.980 Where are they?

04:46:30.720 March updated.

04:46:32.220 Men are still trash.

04:46:33.640 2019.

04:46:34.520 So that was, you were, that was four years ago.

04:46:35.540 Most of these are 2019.

04:46:37.300 So you were 24 then.

04:46:39.140 So, I mean, fully functioning.

04:46:41.340 I was out of a breakup.

04:46:43.920 Okay.

04:46:45.880 All right.

04:46:46.380 I'm not saying it's justified, but that's why I hate men so much.

04:46:49.020 I'm crying.

04:46:51.100 Monthly update.

04:46:52.120 I'm still trash.

04:46:53.240 2019?

04:46:53.440 I need to make this a scrapbook.

04:46:56.860 2018?

04:46:57.940 Trash.

04:46:58.760 Oh, read it?

04:46:59.540 Oh.

04:47:00.720 Go back.

04:47:01.160 Women who's, why are men trash?

04:47:06.720 Next.

04:47:07.360 Next.

04:47:08.280 Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.

04:47:11.400 So what are you saying?

04:47:12.220 Are you saying there is that women need to want to seek?

04:47:15.720 Hold on.

04:47:16.160 Let me think about this.

04:47:17.100 I've got to go back to like 2012 here.

04:47:19.380 What does that tweet say again?

04:47:21.320 Women who what?

04:47:23.020 Seek to be equal with men.

04:47:25.340 It means superiority.

04:47:26.940 Lack ambition.

04:47:27.820 What did I mean by that?

04:47:30.340 That that means that you want women to seek superiority over men.

04:47:35.760 How is equal?

04:47:37.200 I'm curious.

04:47:38.060 Wait, but how am I telling them they lack ambition?

04:47:40.780 As a woman, if equality is all you want, you lack ambition.

04:47:44.960 Your conquest needs to go beyond just equality.

04:47:47.600 It needs to be supremacy.

04:47:48.600 That's my interpretation of it.

04:47:52.360 I mean, how else would you?

04:47:54.100 Damn, I don't know if I was thinking that deep at 16, but maybe that's it.

04:47:59.160 I'm not going to honestly, I don't, that one's recall.

04:48:01.880 Maybe you could be correct with that one.

04:48:03.640 I have no defense for that.

04:48:05.360 It just, it just came naturally to you.

04:48:07.420 Maybe.

04:48:08.100 Go ahead.

04:48:08.840 It's just crazy how someone can treat you so bad.

04:48:11.760 Wait, can hurt you so bad, then treat you like a sex object.

04:48:14.960 Update.

04:48:15.440 Men are still trash.

04:48:16.420 I guess, and there's a bunch more.

04:48:19.220 My question to you is why not just say my past partner was trash or this specific individual

04:48:26.300 or these specific individuals are trash?

04:48:28.920 Because to me, it occurs to me.

04:48:31.100 I could do that for you, Brian.

04:48:32.440 Thank you.

04:48:32.800 I could start that.

04:48:34.080 You know, I like to be open-minded.

04:48:37.000 Fuck this podcast host, men are trash.

04:48:38.440 Oh no, I'll probably tweet.

04:48:40.380 I'm probably going to tweet, this is for Brian, men are okay.

04:48:44.460 I'll tweet it right now.

04:48:45.620 But you can't walk back because you're being confronted.

04:48:52.240 I feel like you're walking back an actual genuine position that you hold.

04:48:57.140 No, well, I see that, yes.

04:49:01.700 But I think maybe, I don't know, like not so much that you could vouch for me, but I don't

04:49:07.440 know, when I think back to like 2010, 2014, 2016, those tweets, I'm growing up in a conservative

04:49:13.820 neighborhood.

04:49:14.520 I have very conservative beliefs.

04:49:16.840 I've like, have all these like different things in me.

04:49:18.860 But at the same time, I had just started like hanging out with gangs and gangbanging and

04:49:23.540 selling drugs and doing all that sort of stuff.

04:49:26.100 Whoa.

04:49:27.960 And so I was working in mostly male, male dominated fields where I was the only women, woman.

04:49:36.880 Which gang were you involved in?

04:49:39.160 They're like neighborhood gangs.

04:49:40.740 Neighborhood?

04:49:40.960 Well, you were in a gang?

04:49:41.840 It's gentrified pretty now, but like around Santa Ana.

04:49:44.980 Were you a gang?

04:49:45.520 Are you a gang?

04:49:45.740 I was in a gang.

04:49:46.600 I was like holding drugs for them.

04:49:47.440 Did you get jumped in?

04:49:48.660 Huh?

04:49:49.360 Jumped in.

04:49:49.740 I mean, I was very much like, had to get like haste.

04:49:52.960 Where were you?

04:49:53.820 Oh, okay.

04:49:54.920 Yeah, I was told.

04:49:55.480 I was told there's two ways to get in.

04:49:57.480 There's ways to get in, but it's also if like being white, you have to like extra like

04:50:02.540 prove yourself.

04:50:03.360 Wait, what gang?

04:50:04.720 Crip?

04:50:05.540 Well, there's like, no, it's not like subsets.

04:50:09.300 Yeah.

04:50:09.700 So like you'll go to different like.

04:50:11.440 Was it the white gang?

04:50:12.520 No, mostly Hispanic.

04:50:13.980 And then I started working for the Asian mafia.

04:50:16.700 Oh, shit.

04:50:17.920 So I mostly like been.

04:50:20.340 Wait, what about the drug?

04:50:21.620 What were you doing with drugs?

04:50:22.800 Wait, statute of limitations.

04:50:24.720 Okay, long story short, stock market crashes around like 2008, whatever.

04:50:29.060 Mom's like, you're going to public school now.

04:50:31.700 Like we can't afford anything.

04:50:33.480 I'm like, okay, I go to public school.

04:50:35.480 I'm like, oh my God.

04:50:37.420 And like, here I am.

04:50:38.360 In grade school, you were dealing drugs?

04:50:40.200 High school.

04:50:41.160 High school.

04:50:41.860 So I started selling fake IDs and then I started selling drugs after I had people

04:50:47.880 like bring me to parties like I, you know, at the public school.

04:50:52.960 So mostly worked around men.

04:50:56.020 I would say I actually trust men more than I trust women because women didn't believe

04:51:00.580 me growing up.

04:51:01.780 But growing up, still around all these other dynamics of being like the men are in charge.

04:51:07.000 You got to listen to the men, whatever.

04:51:08.820 Men, right?

04:51:09.420 Fast forward these years, I want to say like 2017, I'm having like the liberal awakening

04:51:19.880 and like, which, and then two, three years ago pans into like communism and socialism and

04:51:27.840 just like, literally, like if you looked at like older me.

04:51:31.680 What is take him a donated $200?

04:51:34.660 Women are suppressed by white men.

04:51:36.560 She loves Andrew Tate.

04:51:37.160 Imagine growing up with such privilege, not understanding what living in the U.S.

04:51:42.000 actually means.

04:51:43.600 In communist, Cuba, I had so many freedoms like farming, staying.

04:51:51.720 That doesn't sound bad though.

04:51:53.020 Thank you, Hakama.

04:51:53.620 Um, but so I would definitely like, I, I would say I can't even, I can't even, I mean, I've

04:52:01.920 cut people.

04:52:03.500 You shank somebody?

04:52:05.140 You cut somebody.

04:52:05.780 I'm not shank them.

04:52:06.460 Oh, so sorry.

04:52:07.000 You cut?

04:52:07.580 Like cut.

04:52:08.680 With a, yeah.

04:52:10.520 Damn.

04:52:11.240 Slice.

04:52:11.740 I was there.

04:52:12.540 You were there?

04:52:14.060 Can't talk too much about it.

04:52:15.840 Huh?

04:52:17.280 Okay.

04:52:17.780 Let's get back to the tweets.

04:52:18.660 Um, okay.

04:52:19.760 I have a question about the last tweet.

04:52:21.700 Okay.

04:52:22.320 What was the last tweet?

04:52:23.600 She said that how can a man treat me so bad, hurt me so bad, and then treat me like a sex

04:52:29.760 object?

04:52:30.960 Yeah.

04:52:31.220 My question is, is that not what you see yourself as?

04:52:35.540 Um, not currently.

04:52:38.760 I, like, I think there's a difference between being a sex object and a sex symbol, and I think

04:52:44.460 my whole life I've resonated with being a sex symbol.

04:52:46.880 I think that's just you preferring a different word, so it fits what you want.

04:52:50.500 No, because, so what, by sex object, that means, like, you can treat me however you want

04:52:55.120 sexually.

04:52:56.000 You can do X, Y, Z.

04:52:56.320 No, it's just sexual objectification.

04:52:58.100 Sex symbol means I'm a representation of something.

04:53:01.480 It's not something like.

04:53:02.300 Sex.

04:53:02.920 Yeah, so you could have.

04:53:04.120 Okay, it's the same.

04:53:06.040 But that's like saying you're a sexual person, but that, like, if you embrace your sexuality,

04:53:10.860 that doesn't mean that.

04:53:12.080 Like, just because a girl dresses slutty doesn't mean she's having sex.

04:53:14.700 She has an OnlyFans doesn't mean she's doing porn.

04:53:16.420 Yeah, but if you're cool.

04:53:18.040 Well, technically, it does.

04:53:20.580 But.

04:53:21.380 I mean, I have OnlyFans.

04:53:22.840 I don't do porn.

04:53:24.120 Right, but what, do you take your clothes off for money?

04:53:26.820 Topless.

04:53:28.080 Okay, that's porn.

04:53:30.620 Yes.

04:53:31.360 Any, are you making money by taking your clothes off?

04:53:34.320 It's not hard.

04:53:35.040 Taking my top off.

04:53:36.280 Okay, well, I mean, that's the justification of what you want the definition of porn to

04:53:40.040 be.

04:53:40.240 I mean, most people are sending, people are sending people nudes for free.

04:53:44.120 Is that porn too?

04:53:45.380 They're sending a person that they know or have a relationship with?

04:53:48.540 So is it, do you think it's porn because I'm getting paid for it or because. . .

04:53:51.860 I think it's porn because you're taking your clothes off and letting strange people that

04:53:54.800 you don't know look at you naked.

04:53:55.820 Well, it's for the purpose of being sexualized, and you know it's for the purpose of being sexualized.

04:53:58.540 Why does that make her a sex object?

04:54:00.080 Yeah, well.

04:54:00.680 If I take my clothes off with my husband and I let him fuck me in my object.

04:54:03.160 That's not the same thing at all.

04:54:04.500 Then you have to get the money.

04:54:05.760 But I'm not really not capable of seeing women in a three-dimensional way.

04:54:08.380 You're searching your name and seeing you naked on my phone.

04:54:10.640 I have no idea who you are or anything about you.

04:54:12.820 You would have to go, like, through several paywalls to see me naked, though.

04:54:16.180 Yeah, but hang on.

04:54:16.800 That doesn't matter.

04:54:18.240 You, getting money for it makes it worse, not better.

04:54:21.660 Why?

04:54:21.940 Makes you more of a sex object.

04:54:23.020 Why is it better that girls do it for free and I just get paid for it?

04:54:27.300 I have literally never sent a nude in my entire life until last January.

04:54:33.080 And girls have been sending nudes for free all the time, and they're not the sluts?

04:54:38.640 Oh, we know you.

04:54:40.320 Okay, I'm not going to say that.

04:54:41.340 I'm honest.

04:54:41.600 Come on.

04:54:42.000 Regardless of blank or not.

04:54:43.560 Next, please.

04:54:44.940 Okay, here.

04:54:45.520 We're running out of time.

04:54:47.440 I want to try to get through all the tweets.

04:54:49.060 Go ahead, Nick.

04:54:49.780 Go ahead.

04:54:50.820 If you can read that.

04:54:51.680 Oh, yeah.

04:54:52.000 Men, they say you can't live with them, can't live without them, but right now I could totally

04:54:55.920 live without them.

04:54:58.280 Valid.

04:54:59.820 Do you mean like romantically or just like societally?

04:55:04.140 I think a lot of these tweets come from like when I don't want to be approached by men.

04:55:08.620 I think it's kind of like a defense mechanism.

04:55:10.980 Like someone's trying to reach out to me.

04:55:12.660 They're not getting the hint.

04:55:14.040 They're not whatever.

04:55:15.120 Best way is to be like, I hate men.

04:55:16.700 They see my social media posts and either they're like, well, I guess she's off limits right now.

04:55:21.320 Or they say it and they're like, like I said earlier, I love this girl.

04:55:24.500 Like she doesn't like men.

04:55:25.580 She likes me.

04:55:26.260 Like she's perfect.

04:55:27.380 So there's some guys where like, yeah, it turns them off.

04:55:29.600 And then there's some guys that turn them on.

04:55:31.060 But I think my expression of hatred towards men is times I either didn't want to be like sex objects, sex symbol, whatever you want to package it as.

04:55:41.660 I just wanted to be like, get away from me.

04:55:43.640 Like this is my red flag, red alert.

04:55:46.120 Like don't encounter me.

04:55:47.400 It's like a safety coping mechanism.

04:55:49.980 And I'm like in the nicest way.

04:55:51.820 We could probably find like a thousand I love dick.

04:55:54.060 So you would say it's a cope?

04:55:56.840 Maybe some parts.

04:55:57.880 Yeah, it's like therapy.

04:55:58.900 Twitter's always been kind of like my diary.

04:56:01.420 Yes, I have a question for you.

04:56:05.940 So first of all, I wanted to say it's terrible that you had to go through such abuse from your dad.

04:56:11.680 And I'm really sorry for that.

04:56:14.040 I understand that you're masking a lot of that trauma with your sense of humor and your sarcasm.

04:56:20.420 But do you think that your relationships and especially the ones to come in the future, even if they're healthy, they will be affected by the trauma with your dad that has not been healed?

04:56:34.020 I don't think so.

04:56:35.120 That's why I feel like, not to be like, I'm a changed woman, but I did take like the past two years to like fully like, I purposely like was celibate because I didn't want to like be date men and lead them on or treat them a certain way because I was feeling a certain way towards my ex.

04:56:51.780 And because I'm very empathetic.

04:56:53.160 I do really care like how I make somebody feel hurting because I was like physically like hurt so badly.

04:56:58.940 Like putting people in pain, like makes me like cringe, like genuinely.

04:57:04.780 And so it's like, I hate men's easier to like, just kind of like, you know, like a diary entry post, whatever.

04:57:09.820 But the past like two, three years, like I'm in therapy, I'm working on it.

04:57:14.620 It's a big part of the reason why I didn't want to be in a relationship.

04:57:17.660 So I think it'd be one thing if I was tweeting, I hate men and was actively pursuing relationships with men, but I wasn't.

04:57:24.340 And not only that, but I was like trying to push men away from me and not let them in.

04:57:29.220 So I think now as I'm still doing the work, I go to therapy and have, I have PTSD and EMDR and do all these things for those things.

04:57:38.040 I think whoever gets me would actually like be pretty lucky because I'm like healing from this.

04:57:43.060 I'm a better communicator.

04:57:44.300 I think I'm a better mother.

04:57:46.020 There's a reason I have six godchildren.

04:57:48.120 So at the end, and three of those godchildren are all boys.

04:57:51.780 So at the end of the day, I do see where you're coming from.

04:57:55.080 I think, yeah, that's probably some things I've done in the past, but that's definitely not who I want to be in the future, which is why, you know, we haven't seen those tweets in three years.

04:58:05.560 I can't even wear two at the same time.

04:58:08.000 Farah, join me.

04:58:09.100 I don't know if Farah wants more.

04:58:10.960 I'm okay.

04:58:11.660 Kiki?

04:58:12.460 No, you put this one on and I'll take that one, okay?

04:58:15.420 I don't like red.

04:58:16.120 You put this one on.

04:58:16.900 It matches your shirt.

04:58:19.140 So, but yeah, so I'm, I'm genuinely like not to be cornball, but I'm doing the work.

04:58:23.540 So like that doesn't happen and that's why I said, I don't understand how any of that actually.

04:58:28.740 I'm trying to get over like being like a man hater.

04:58:30.840 Here, let's just try to get through all the tweets.

04:58:32.640 Let's just try to get through all the tweets so we can.

04:58:35.200 Okay.

04:58:36.200 How am I losing friends to white men?

04:58:38.520 Disgusted.

04:58:39.140 Oh, fuck.

04:58:41.020 Yes.

04:58:41.560 Wait, okay.

04:58:42.000 Let's not linger.

04:58:42.960 We'll, we'll just get through all of them and then we can, if there's any to address.

04:58:45.760 Go ahead, Nick.

04:58:46.940 Yo, is it just me or are men extra trash this week?

04:58:49.920 2019 next.

04:58:50.660 Can we pretty fucking please send all the cis white men to a different planet?

04:58:55.500 Still feel that.

04:58:57.600 All the men that talk to Yamani are fucking trash.

04:59:03.760 When was that?

04:59:04.960 Yeah, what?

04:59:05.360 Can we?

04:59:09.100 2018.

04:59:10.660 Damn.

04:59:11.480 Why do men feel the need?

04:59:12.860 Go ahead.

04:59:13.080 Why do men feel the need to mansplain things?

04:59:15.200 Which I think is a sexist statement to make.

04:59:17.800 I think mansplaining.

04:59:18.340 What do you think about mansplaining then?

04:59:20.180 I think mansplaining is a sexist term.

04:59:21.880 You don't think that's sexist in itself?

04:59:22.440 Huh?

04:59:22.980 Well, okay.

04:59:23.800 So what term, like, this is new to me.

04:59:25.460 Well, I think, for example, I assume you'd object to, like, womansplaining.

04:59:31.160 That might be a sexist term.

04:59:31.640 Okay, I've never heard that, but.

04:59:33.100 Okay, exactly, but.

04:59:34.880 Well, man.

04:59:35.840 There's not an overall.

04:59:36.600 You know, sometimes, as girls, we know, sometimes guys just explain stuff to us in a little bit

04:59:42.320 of, like, a baby voice and, like, a little bit of, like, a slowed down tone.

04:59:44.620 Or they'll tell us what we literally just told them.

04:59:48.540 And it's somehow their idea.

04:59:50.520 I'm like, I literally just said that out my mouth.

04:59:52.300 Okay, cis white men to plan it.

04:59:54.180 We'll come back.

04:59:55.340 Straight white men.

04:59:56.500 Next one.

04:59:56.660 Is it mansplaining, just explaining with a point?

05:00:00.120 Yes, because women, when we explain, we have no point.

05:00:02.740 Is that the.

05:00:03.380 That's not what he's saying, I think, but go ahead.

05:00:05.020 Men are really trash.

05:00:07.020 Men really be trash.

05:00:08.340 Next.

05:00:09.080 I know men ain't shit, but they extra ain't shit this week.

05:00:12.360 As recently as 2023.

05:00:13.940 I fucking hate white people.

05:00:16.480 That's.

05:00:17.160 My mom used to tell me I was racist against white people growing up.

05:00:20.420 Aren't you white?

05:00:21.920 Yeah.

05:00:23.120 Okay.

05:00:23.660 I really don't trust white people that much.

05:00:26.640 To be fair.

05:00:28.640 Is it okay to be racist against your own race?

05:00:31.700 Well, let's go around the table.

05:00:32.700 I'm reverse racism.

05:00:34.060 Does that exist?

05:00:34.520 I do want to go around the table on this, but we will come back to the tweets really quick.

05:00:38.740 Can you be racist against.

05:00:40.560 Hold on.

05:00:41.300 Can you be racist against white people?

05:00:43.100 And can you be sexist against men?

05:00:45.040 Starting with you.

05:00:45.660 Go ahead.

05:00:49.360 I wanted to talk about nipples.

05:00:52.600 And why it's okay for men to show them and not for women.

05:00:55.520 We'll get to that.

05:00:55.960 We'll get to that.

05:00:56.540 Here, take your hand.

05:00:57.120 I love her.

05:00:58.620 Here, give.

05:00:59.460 Let's face.

05:01:00.420 Oh, I think I got.

05:01:01.300 Can you help me?

05:01:01.900 It got locked.

05:01:03.980 Is it locked?

05:01:05.040 Unlock it?

05:01:05.760 Yes.

05:01:06.160 Oh, there you go.

05:01:06.780 You're fine.

05:01:06.960 Thank you.

05:01:07.720 I'll take it.

05:01:09.340 Okay.

05:01:09.760 Do you want to answer the question, though?

05:01:12.180 Back to reality.

05:01:13.140 Do you think you can be racist against white people and does sexism against men exist, right?

05:01:24.780 Well, no.

05:01:25.320 Can you be racist against your own race?

05:01:26.820 Can you be racist against white people and can you be sexist against men?

05:01:30.260 If you're white, can you be racist against white people?

05:01:32.740 Wait, can you take that water off the table, please?

05:01:35.420 Go ahead.

05:01:35.920 So, is that racism if I'm white and I'm generalizing a negative idea about white people?

05:01:43.600 I'm just asking.

05:01:44.400 I want to move around the table quick on this.

05:01:46.080 So, can you be racist against white people and can you be sexist against men?

05:01:49.640 Yes, yes.

05:01:50.140 Modest he can donate $200.

05:01:53.320 Can we move on from the cow show?

05:01:55.740 She has his too much feed and his two work to think.

05:01:58.620 No, it's okay.

05:01:59.820 I'm used to it.

05:02:01.440 It's like saying this guy is blue.

05:02:02.300 Crazy she thinks white men want.

05:02:04.820 Be nice, though.

05:02:06.300 Let's avoid the personal insults if we can.

05:02:11.060 Going to you for the can you be racist against white people, can you be sexist against men?

05:02:15.600 Well, I don't think reverse racism against white people exists.

05:02:19.080 I don't know what, I don't really know what reverse racism is, but can you be racist against white people and can you be sexist against men?

05:02:25.100 No.

05:02:25.820 And then what was the second one?

05:02:27.520 Can you be racist against white people and can you be sexist against men?

05:02:32.120 Yes.

05:02:32.260 So, no to.

05:02:33.280 No, yes.

05:02:34.160 You can't be racist against white people.

05:02:37.300 No.

05:02:38.160 That's reverse racism and I don't believe that exists.

05:02:40.580 Now, are you talking about, let's say, are you saying, is your definition of racism prejudice plus power?

05:02:49.080 Uh, like in what, like.

05:02:55.360 The ability to enforce the racism is what you consider racism versus just, like, me not liking a white person.

05:03:01.840 Because I think you can be racist against any race, I suppose.

05:03:06.140 If you consider racism, what makes it racist is that you can enforce it and make some, change someone else's life.

05:03:11.460 So, does that mean that women can't be racist?

05:03:14.160 Oh.

05:03:14.540 No, no, I was just explaining.

05:03:16.080 Well, I mean.

05:03:16.640 Women can be racist.

05:03:18.260 Oh, okay.

05:03:18.920 But that wasn't.

05:03:19.340 Into the mics, guys.

05:03:20.200 Into the mics, just a reminder.

05:03:21.460 Women can be racist.

05:03:23.000 I don't know what that.

05:03:24.420 Let me ask a question.

05:03:25.860 Could, let's say we were in China.

05:03:28.660 Okay.

05:03:28.900 Could people in China be racist against white people in China?

05:03:34.820 Yes.

05:03:36.740 Right?

05:03:37.360 Could Chinese people be racist towards white people?

05:03:39.800 Let's say I'm, let's say I'm an immigrant to China.

05:03:42.520 I mean, we have, like, no culture.

05:03:44.040 So, like, what are, like, what's the racism about?

05:03:46.260 White people have no culture?

05:03:48.840 Ooh, that's, I want to hear the culture.

05:03:50.640 I don't know.

05:03:50.940 I love white people.

05:03:52.140 I want to hear it.

05:03:52.680 Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Schubert, Bach, Mendelssohn.

05:03:55.880 There's a debate that Mozart was black.

05:03:58.200 Like, that's what you're referring to?

05:04:00.620 Most.

05:04:01.240 There's so much culture in Europe.

05:04:02.700 Yeah, that's a good point.

05:04:03.880 Beethoven.

05:04:04.200 Yeah, white Americans is what you mean.

05:04:06.220 Don't have culture.

05:04:06.940 Yes, they do.

05:04:07.720 They brought over their, they brought over culture from Europe.

05:04:12.460 And then inside of the United States, all over, you can see collectives of this from

05:04:18.540 Europeans who settled in the South, which has some of its own unique culture.

05:04:22.880 If you go West, it has its own unique culture.

05:04:25.440 And then on the East Coast, same thing.

05:04:27.160 So, yeah, they brought over a lot of things, but it was a hodgepodge of European heritages.

05:04:31.500 So, but, yeah, there's definitely some, there's definitely some culture here in the U.S., for sure.

05:04:38.260 White people don't have culture?

05:04:39.400 We got culture.

05:04:40.260 It was culture.

05:04:42.280 Yeah.

05:04:44.700 I don't know.

05:04:45.540 It's kind of a racist statement.

05:04:47.200 Don't you think it's kind of racist to say white people don't have a culture?

05:04:50.020 What's the culture?

05:04:51.280 I'm genuinely curious.

05:04:52.160 Like, when you think white people culture in America, what is it?

05:04:55.660 Potato salad?

05:04:56.600 Starbucks?

05:04:57.280 PSLs?

05:04:58.420 Like, I'm so serious.

05:05:00.300 Do you consider Italians white?

05:05:02.740 Um, I don't really think so.

05:05:04.800 No.

05:05:05.280 Because most people I know that are Italian don't, like, really, like, intertwine them.

05:05:09.320 They're like, I'm not white.

05:05:10.200 I'm Italian.

05:05:11.380 I don't know.

05:05:11.920 They white.

05:05:12.380 What about Irish people?

05:05:13.940 They white.

05:05:14.700 White?

05:05:15.700 Okay.

05:05:15.980 So, the Irish are white, but not the Italians?

05:05:18.780 Well, I don't know.

05:05:20.360 I thought we were talking about American.

05:05:22.380 You mentioned food, so I'm thinking Italian cuisine, for example.

05:05:26.640 Okay.

05:05:27.660 In Italy.

05:05:28.580 Well, what do you want?

05:05:29.080 I thought we were talking about American white people culture.

05:05:31.980 You mentioned food, but...

05:05:33.720 Well, you're talking about...

05:05:34.880 What is the European, I mean, the American white people culture?

05:05:38.740 Like, what is it?

05:05:39.540 No, that's...

05:05:40.340 Bruce Springsteen?

05:05:40.980 Well, listen, the problem is, is that you're framing the question incorrectly.

05:05:44.340 So, when you see, you're trying to create a monolith out of a...

05:05:47.260 So, you're making a set out of a subset.

05:05:49.240 Okay.

05:05:49.540 So, we actually have to look at the subset.

05:05:51.460 Okay.

05:05:51.840 So, in the subset, you would say, what's American Irish culture, Dutch culture, etc., etc., etc.,

05:05:56.380 like?

05:05:56.860 It's not a complete monolith.

05:05:58.820 So, for instance, the way that the Dutch Amish behave are going to be completely different

05:06:04.240 than the way that, you know, the German Amish behave.

05:06:08.740 You would agree that that's true, right?

05:06:09.940 But, I'm talking about American white culture.

05:06:11.880 Yeah, that's Americans.

05:06:12.860 Amish are Americans.

05:06:13.780 They live in America.

05:06:14.620 Okay, yeah.

05:06:15.120 Okay?

05:06:15.600 And they're white people.

05:06:16.600 So, the thing is, is...

05:06:17.840 But, they're a subset.

05:06:19.060 So, can I say that all of the things inside of Amish culture are part of white culture?

05:06:23.380 I think I can.

05:06:24.120 So, I can say the wagons and the horses and the way that they live and their religion,

05:06:28.640 all of that is a subset of white culture because that's a subset of whites.

05:06:33.300 I also think it's quite subjective how you view the culture.

05:06:36.760 Because even Starbucks and burgers, you know, people,

05:06:39.940 let's say, in Europe will be looking at that American culture that you think is nothing

05:06:44.460 exciting.

05:06:45.020 But, for them, they'll be like, ooh, the American dream.

05:06:47.820 Like, look at that.

05:06:48.440 Look at the fast food.

05:06:49.580 Look at the cars.

05:06:50.280 Look at their entertainment industry.

05:06:52.220 And, I think a big factor is also time.

05:06:54.960 Because it's fairly fresh compared to the European countries.

05:06:57.900 It's kind of considered...

05:06:59.400 I think time will pass and people will look back and think about it as, like, the grand

05:07:03.860 time in history.

05:07:07.060 Does that make sense?

05:07:07.880 That is generally described, like, in terms of fast food, fast money, capitalism, entertainment,

05:07:14.100 like, everything that perhaps you could be perceiving as, like, negative right now.

05:07:19.440 Okay.

05:07:19.760 Sorry.

05:07:20.140 But, what's the...

05:07:21.420 That's also culture, I think.

05:07:23.320 She's just saying that we have...

05:07:24.020 Maybe in a few years.

05:07:25.640 Modest Hikima donated $200.

05:07:28.840 Fat white southern girl.

05:07:30.180 I'm not from the south.

05:07:30.800 Who doesn't understand she's fat and white.

05:07:33.660 What do you think made you fat and white?

05:07:36.380 Are you only fat because southern USA?

05:07:38.860 What?

05:07:39.180 What mental hoops leads you to that?

05:07:41.460 I think that...

05:07:42.080 How did we think that was from the south?

05:07:44.060 So, I want to know, what was it?

05:07:46.120 Do you see my point when I say that you have to look at everything and look at it as a

05:07:51.040 subset to culture?

05:07:52.320 Okay.

05:07:52.860 So, like, each in distinguishing...

05:07:55.140 Well, then white people don't have exciting culture.

05:07:57.420 What?

05:07:57.940 Like, I don't know.

05:07:58.940 As compared to what?

05:08:02.100 I mean, like, African heritage, Hispanic culture.

05:08:06.400 Hispanic culture is high octane in comparison to...

05:08:10.440 Because it's almost...

05:08:11.720 By the way...

05:08:12.060 When I think culture, I think about, like, people cooking in their kitchen, passing down,

05:08:17.020 like, recipes, traditions, stories.

05:08:19.340 Like the Italians and the Irish and, like, the Germans, the mass migration to Germany.

05:08:25.580 I mean, it's ridiculous.

05:08:26.860 Okay, well, then the white people around me growing up, everywhere I lived, were not partaking

05:08:30.940 in this.

05:08:31.440 The driest food, no stories, no one shows emotions, very cold.

05:08:36.120 The driest food?

05:08:37.400 Yes, the worst food.

05:08:39.480 But, like...

05:08:40.320 Wait, Italian?

05:08:40.880 Okay, well, all right.

05:08:42.560 That's what I'm saying.

05:08:44.220 White people I have grown up around have had no culture.

05:08:47.640 Yeah, where did you grow up again?

05:08:48.940 Orange County.

05:08:49.780 Orange County.

05:08:50.600 What, California, you mean?

05:08:51.900 Yes!

05:08:52.640 Yeah, well, Orange County, California is basically just a progressive cesspool.

05:08:57.740 Right.

05:08:57.980 Isn't it pretty conservative?

05:09:00.160 That's what I'm saying.

05:09:01.320 I don't know.

05:09:01.880 Look, here, let's keep moving.

05:09:03.320 Can you be racist against white people?

05:09:05.800 Can you be sexist against men?

05:09:07.040 Yes, but not all instances are as charged, so I think wearing a shirt that says I hate

05:09:11.160 men is sexist, but I'm not necessarily going to care as much as wearing a shirt that says

05:09:14.800 I hate men is sexist, but I still think it's discrimination on the basis of sex or race.

05:09:18.880 That could be your in-group bias, speaking there.

05:09:21.900 No, I think it's just statistical accuracy.

05:09:23.600 Do you think, do you think, do you object to misandry?

05:09:28.800 Like, do I, I, like, I still think her tweets are.

05:09:31.600 You think, you think, if I concede.

05:09:32.920 I don't think her tweets are a good example.

05:09:34.440 I would never tweet what she tweets, but I'm not going to also, like, protest it, and

05:09:38.440 it may be in the same way, but I wouldn't do it.

05:09:41.140 You wouldn't, okay, you wouldn't do it, but let's just, let's just assume that you're

05:09:45.120 right.

05:09:45.420 The misogyny is worse than misandry.

05:09:48.280 So, do you object to misandry?

05:09:52.240 Perhaps not to the degree that you object to misogyny, but do you still object to it,

05:09:56.400 or do you feel it's justified?

05:09:58.900 No, I mean, it's justified maybe in that she's reacting to a trauma, but I don't think

05:10:02.640 it's productive, so I would say, like, that's, you know what I mean, I don't think she should

05:10:06.140 do it.

05:10:07.160 Okay.

05:10:07.860 But I wouldn't necessarily.

05:10:08.360 Can you be racist against, can you be racist against white people, can you be sexist against

05:10:11.960 men?

05:10:14.280 I, probably not.

05:10:16.960 I mean, you can not like white people, but obviously, if you think about, I'm not saying

05:10:23.260 it's okay to not like white people, I love white people.

05:10:25.320 What do you think about white people?

05:10:27.080 I just said, I love white people, but obviously I've experienced the shittier part of white

05:10:33.340 people.

05:10:34.020 Can I ask you guys a question?

05:10:34.800 If a black person victimized me in some way, would I be justified in broadly discriminating

05:10:43.220 against or having contempt or hatred towards black people?

05:10:46.060 How do they discriminate against you?

05:10:48.000 I would, okay.

05:10:48.660 That's not.

05:10:49.280 If someone, if a black person, like.

05:10:51.440 If I was victimized by a black person, would that give me pretext to hate all black people?

05:10:55.680 I mean, I personally, I don't want to say I wouldn't care, but if you, if someone, a

05:11:02.740 black person did something bad to you and you turned around and were like, I hate black

05:11:05.760 people.

05:11:05.960 Like, I get it psychologically.

05:11:07.760 Just like if someone does something bad to you, it makes sense why you would, it doesn't

05:11:12.720 make sense, but I could see why you would not like those other people.

05:11:15.100 But to have one person do something to you and then say that that means that you hate

05:11:20.240 all of those people, I think that would be a little bit dramatic.

05:11:24.460 But if you were to say you don't like black people, I don't know that I would care that

05:11:27.460 much.

05:11:28.400 I mean, I think that would be racist, but okay.

05:11:30.980 What about?

05:11:31.420 It would be racist.

05:11:32.880 Oh, you just don't object to the, okay.

05:11:34.740 I say yes to both.

05:11:36.080 I think you could be racist against white people and you can also be sexist against

05:11:40.880 men.

05:11:41.540 And then you?

05:11:42.420 I agree, but I also think that the descriptions that everyone over there is using is just prolonging

05:11:52.280 their ability to make whatever definition of sexism or racism fit what they want it to

05:11:58.420 fit rather than, I've seen a couple of episodes where girls are like saying that there is a spectrum

05:12:04.660 of like black and white for, you know, there is a gray for everything.

05:12:09.280 And I, I viviently disagree with that.

05:12:13.520 Okay.

05:12:14.380 Here, let's just try to get through the tweets.

05:12:16.340 Oh my God.

05:12:17.180 Oh my gosh.

05:12:17.760 I told you we'd be here all night.

05:12:19.260 Keep going.

05:12:20.280 It generally scares me to be alone in a house or a car with a white older male.

05:12:24.340 Okay.

05:12:24.620 Well, that's because my dad.

05:12:25.740 Yep.

05:12:26.220 Next.

05:12:27.260 Can we take all the white straight males and shit them to their own island?

05:12:30.800 Thank you, Honda.

05:12:31.380 Well, that's nicer than the planet.

05:12:33.260 Okay.

05:12:33.620 We just need to send all the white males to another planet.

05:12:36.900 Planet, island.

05:12:38.260 The previous one was cis white men.

05:12:40.460 Yes.

05:12:41.920 Next.

05:12:43.020 Sometimes I wish I was a straight white man so I could do anything I want and not care

05:12:46.720 how it affects any others.

05:12:48.820 Sigh.

05:12:49.680 Do you, do you think that's the case that just white men can pretty much run roughshod and

05:12:54.480 do anything they want?

05:12:55.240 For the most part, at least where I grew up.

05:12:57.240 Okay.

05:12:57.760 Get away with murder.

05:12:58.520 I'm painting a picture here.

05:12:59.440 Okay.

05:12:59.820 Next.

05:13:00.180 I guess I didn't realize how deep my fucking hatred for white people goes.

05:13:05.460 Like, they literally make me fucking livid.

05:13:07.640 I'm going to need to do some deep healing work on this one.

05:13:10.480 2020.

05:13:10.760 2020.

05:13:11.980 And I started that journey.

05:13:14.040 That was three years ago.

05:13:14.800 Okay.

05:13:14.960 Yeah.

05:13:15.480 Yep.

05:13:16.020 Next.

05:13:16.360 Like I said, two or three years ago.

05:13:17.960 Next.

05:13:18.360 I started to try to spin out of my hatred for men.

05:13:22.180 Sometimes I wake up and I can't believe I dated a white man for three months.

05:13:26.500 Damn.

05:13:26.780 Remember white boy?

05:13:27.640 That's what, that was what we called him.

05:13:29.260 Okay.

05:13:29.640 Next.

05:13:30.900 Oh, that's it.

05:13:31.800 Wow.

05:13:32.120 Okay.

05:13:32.360 We got through all of them.

05:13:33.620 Okay.

05:13:34.720 I mean.

05:13:35.460 You didn't tweet much lately?

05:13:37.300 No, because I'm trying to change.

05:13:38.840 She's been loving men.

05:13:39.200 Okay.

05:13:39.840 I dated a white guy for three months.

05:13:41.500 I couldn't believe it.

05:13:42.900 But when I asked you if you still feel the same way.

05:13:46.380 I think there's some half truths there.

05:13:48.220 I definitely don't think my hatred goes as deep.

05:13:50.820 I have more perspective as someone now, like in the world and like not a teen, not in college.

05:13:57.660 Whatever.

05:13:58.580 I mean, you were just, you were as recently as two or three years ago, you were making

05:14:02.380 some of those tweets.

05:14:03.220 Yes.

05:14:03.420 So you would have been 25.

05:14:04.200 Two or three years ago is when I started like my therapy journey and was like, I need

05:14:08.520 to heal for exactly what she was talking about was not projecting that onto men, which I don't

05:14:15.180 like, I don't think you, you were here for this when I said this, but that's what I've

05:14:18.880 been working on in therapy.

05:14:20.040 So I don't project on men.

05:14:21.540 That's why I was celibate.

05:14:23.040 Didn't date for a year was I didn't want to project the hatred I felt for my dad and my

05:14:27.820 ex onto new men.

05:14:28.800 So would you say you're a recovering misandrist?

05:14:31.100 I'm a recovering misandrist.

05:14:32.840 Okay.

05:14:33.740 But you, you've already said.

05:14:34.760 Are you going to have relapses?

05:14:36.540 They'll probably be relapses.

05:14:37.580 There's going to be relapses.

05:14:38.180 There probably will be, but I'm going to really try for you guys.

05:14:41.080 I'm really trying.

05:14:43.480 So it's just, it's just shocking.

05:14:45.980 It's shocked to me.

05:14:47.460 Those tweets are egregiously abhorrent.

05:14:52.180 Okay.

05:14:52.840 Saints underscore easy donated $200.

05:14:56.140 How do you hate white people when you look like a giant?

05:14:59.240 Let's not do at home.

05:15:00.520 Let's not do at home.

05:15:01.820 Because I told you growing up in specifically where I grew up, because apparently people

05:15:06.400 are here are not having the same white people shared experiences.

05:15:11.100 The white, it's like when you said, if a black man punched you, would you hate all black

05:15:14.560 people?

05:15:15.000 No.

05:15:15.500 But if the same black man punched you every day for 15 years, you might fucking hate some

05:15:21.500 black people.

05:15:22.440 I would hate that individual person.

05:15:25.240 I wouldn't broadly like, I just, it's crazy to me because how many.

05:15:30.100 Are you sure about that?

05:15:31.020 There's billions of men on this, on this planet.

05:15:33.960 I think you guys are also underestimating how I'm not, I don't hate men and not every man

05:15:39.560 that all of us have come in contact with is a terrible person, but most women do have...

05:15:44.480 She literally said all men are trash.

05:15:47.460 You said all men suck, all men are gross, all men are trash.

05:15:50.760 I'm sorry, I'm assuming this, but I was just saying, I think you...

05:15:52.440 $538 donated $200.

05:15:56.360 Is it misandrist or chauvinistic?

05:15:59.900 It's misandrist.

05:16:00.920 It's misandrist.

05:16:02.500 Yeah, thank you, Bone Man.

05:16:03.540 Dude, Bone Man, this is my first time seeing you in the, is this one of, have you, do you

05:16:07.160 recognize the name Bone Man?

05:16:08.620 Is he one of your guys?

05:16:09.760 Could be.

05:16:10.460 Well, hey, Bone Man, this is your first time.

05:16:11.940 Thank you for joining, man.

05:16:12.940 Appreciate it.

05:16:13.500 Can we talk about nipples now?

05:16:13.860 Thanks for all the support tonight.

05:16:15.420 Ooh.

05:16:15.680 Um, actually, we have some of your tweets, so we can definitely get into nipples.

05:16:21.580 Um, wait, did you have another point?

05:16:25.080 No, we covered it.

05:16:26.620 I'm recovering misandrist.

05:16:28.940 What I was just saying is, I think it's just egregious, abhorrent, and...

05:16:34.540 Truth Bomb donated $200.

05:16:37.060 Oh, thank you, man.

05:16:37.700 Please explain to me how 13% of the population are responsible for 50% of violent crime.

05:16:44.100 Well, this chick is racist as fuck, and white cis men are the problem.

05:16:48.960 Was that to me?

05:16:51.020 No, it was towards me.

05:16:52.900 Unfortunately, we can't really get into that Truth Bomb, but thank you very much for your

05:16:56.420 patronage tonight.

05:16:57.300 I much appreciate it.

05:16:57.880 Systemic racism is the answer.

05:16:59.980 Poverty.

05:17:00.820 Come on, baby.

05:17:01.920 I think they're systemic.

05:17:02.640 Okay, never mind.

05:17:03.600 Yeah, it's a lot of the white cis men that were before us, or them.

05:17:09.300 I'm just curious, do you think the world would be a bet, because you said we should send

05:17:13.740 white men, cis white men, to an island, to another planet.

05:17:17.620 I think the world would be better if there was less white people.

05:17:19.360 What?

05:17:22.120 Yo.

05:17:23.200 It's crazy.

05:17:24.140 I couldn't imagine...

05:17:24.800 Maybe not currently, but back in the day, we could have...

05:17:28.960 I could not imagine...

05:17:30.180 I think the world would be a better place with less fat people.

05:17:33.480 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

05:17:34.180 Okay, okay.

05:17:34.520 Let's not get crazy.

05:17:35.840 It's a joke.

05:17:36.680 Everyone's entirely joking.

05:17:37.960 It doesn't need to be a joke, because most people feel that way.

05:17:41.320 So, the difference is, one is...

05:17:43.800 Okay, okay.

05:17:44.560 Look.

05:17:44.680 I don't care.

05:17:45.460 I would never allow what you just said to ever escape my mouth, but...

05:17:49.300 Okay.

05:17:50.400 So, you said the world would be better with less?

05:17:54.760 If I wasn't white, I probably wouldn't have said it, but this is how I feel as a white

05:17:58.240 woman.

05:17:59.300 I guess...

05:17:59.660 Does she have the past, I guess?

05:18:01.000 I don't know.

05:18:01.360 The past!

05:18:02.440 The white past?

05:18:03.460 You said white men, cis white men should be sent to another planet.

05:18:07.100 Yeah, it's mostly the straight white men.

05:18:08.500 Sent, mostly the straight white men.

05:18:10.940 Okay.

05:18:11.560 But you also said just the white men, or just the men, sent to another planet, sent to another

05:18:16.280 island.

05:18:16.940 I certainly object to that.

05:18:21.080 Okay.

05:18:21.820 Certainly disavow that.

05:18:23.300 Okay.

05:18:24.120 She's healing.

05:18:24.940 Let me ask you a question, though.

05:18:26.280 What does the world look...

05:18:27.880 Like, are you in...

05:18:28.980 You're actually in favor of...

05:18:31.500 Less white people?

05:18:32.660 No, no, no.

05:18:32.920 I wouldn't care if, like, the population of white people dwindled.

05:18:37.180 Which it is.

05:18:38.060 Which it is.

05:18:39.000 Yeah, it's because when you look at a global minority, you want it to become less.

05:18:43.560 Insane, guys.

05:18:43.960 No, white people are a global minority because there's more people of color over the world.

05:18:47.220 But who cares if, like...

05:18:48.880 That's what I just said.

05:18:49.900 They're a global minority.

05:18:51.540 Oh, yeah.

05:18:52.040 I was just explaining genetics.

05:18:52.800 Yeah, they're a global minority.

05:18:53.900 So, basically, you don't like minorities?

05:18:57.860 Boom.

05:18:58.640 That's going a little far there.

05:19:00.080 Well, I mean, they're a global minority.

05:19:01.360 Why do you want there to be less of them?

05:19:02.920 I mean, that people are minorities.

05:19:04.760 No, now they're becoming a majority.

05:19:07.180 Like, most people are obese, right?

05:19:09.180 We're just getting to the point where most people are obese.

05:19:10.960 Most children are obese these days.

05:19:13.420 And that's...

05:19:14.400 In America, ask your government about that.

05:19:16.780 Why is it cheaper to afford unhealthy foods?

05:19:20.720 Well, it's not.

05:19:21.420 It's not.

05:19:22.080 It's just cheaper to be lazy.

05:19:24.760 And that's what happens is people don't want to make their food to eat processed shit.

05:19:27.460 There's so many reasons why someone could be fat, though.

05:19:30.680 It doesn't just come down to what you're eating.

05:19:32.500 Oh, yeah.

05:19:32.800 Tell me about how the...

05:19:34.300 I'm fat, and that means I'm malnourished.

05:19:36.640 Give me that again.

05:19:37.640 Give me the...

05:19:38.260 How many times have I heard malnourished people are...

05:19:40.820 The fat people are just malnourished.

05:19:42.440 That's the problem.

05:19:43.260 Okay, I've never heard that one.

05:19:43.620 I think they need a little bit less nourishing.

05:19:45.960 You know what I would suggest?

05:19:47.280 In fact, I would suggest putting down the fork.

05:19:50.060 And if you put down the fork, you're probably not going to be...

05:19:52.080 That's what I would suggest.

05:19:53.640 I mean, you could say that, but then you could also join me in the bathroom when I have eating disorder

05:19:57.900 and I'm throwing up all my food.

05:19:59.420 Good talk.

05:20:00.620 So...

05:20:00.940 Here, wait.

05:20:01.440 Let's just get back to the island.

05:20:02.240 That doesn't look like that's what's going on here.

05:20:03.960 Guys, let's get back to the island.

05:20:04.880 I know, because fat people can have eating disorders, too.

05:20:07.860 And I have an injury.

05:20:08.840 Yeah, I'm talking about the intake, not the outtake.

05:20:12.000 Stop it.

05:20:13.300 Get some hair.

05:20:13.780 Guys, guys, guys, guys.

05:20:14.680 Let's get back to the island.

05:20:16.380 We can talk about that later.

05:20:17.940 All right.

05:20:18.080 Let's talk about the island and the planet.

05:20:20.480 Okay.

05:20:21.020 So, you would like...

05:20:23.220 What is decimation when you reduce 10% of the...

05:20:27.460 To decimate a population?

05:20:28.840 Is that reducing 10% of the population?

05:20:30.540 Would you like to decimate the white man?

05:20:32.900 I don't care about going out of my way to decimate white people.

05:20:35.080 You wouldn't go out of your way.

05:20:36.360 But if they're like, hey, we're taking out, like, 10% of the white people, I'd be like, who cares?

05:20:41.740 I'd probably, like, off myself as tribute.

05:20:47.400 Wait, what?

05:20:48.200 I'd probably offer myself as tribute.

05:20:50.360 You would...

05:20:51.200 I am a white person, therefore, I would...

05:20:53.640 Yeah.

05:20:54.600 If I could die and that meant the Native Americans could take back the land to America, I would, like, kill myself in a heartbeat.

05:21:00.240 Do you currently own a house?

05:21:01.660 I did.

05:21:02.540 I sold it.

05:21:03.800 You sold it.

05:21:04.460 Why didn't you offer it up for free to...

05:21:07.880 Because I wasn't the only owner.

05:21:09.160 Why didn't you collectively...

05:21:11.700 That's the only reason?

05:21:11.840 Why didn't you collectively, in your communist utopia, offer to gift the land and the property to an indigenous person?

05:21:20.540 I mean, that'd be great if I had, like, the power to do that.

05:21:23.760 Of course you were...

05:21:24.740 That wasn't the only one who was on the estate, and then it was also managed by two other people.

05:21:29.780 Okay.

05:21:30.280 So, that one's, like, kind of...

05:21:31.760 Here, this...

05:21:32.860 If I had land to give away, I would.

05:21:34.720 Let's say you were the ultimate dictator of the world, right?

05:21:38.520 Okay.

05:21:39.160 If you could...

05:21:40.780 If you could manifest sending all white men to an...

05:21:46.700 I can't do that because my best friend's a gay white man.

05:21:51.620 That's why I'm, like, kind of, like, on the cis side.

05:21:54.300 But he...

05:21:54.920 Like, he knows and he doesn't care.

05:21:57.460 Okay, fine.

05:21:58.300 If you could send all cis white men to another planet or to an island forever in perpetuity...

05:22:04.700 Would you do it?

05:22:08.660 If you had the power to do it?

05:22:10.540 Is there, like...

05:22:13.400 This is a serious...

05:22:15.120 It's a serious question.

05:22:17.660 I don't know.

05:22:23.780 I'm not going to say yes or no.

05:22:25.500 You don't know.

05:22:25.780 Oh, my God.

05:22:25.960 You don't know?

05:22:26.740 Well, like, is there, like...

05:22:27.900 She would.

05:22:28.460 She would.

05:22:28.860 What's the...

05:22:30.160 What's the...

05:22:30.480 What's the...

05:22:31.480 Modest Hikim...

05:22:32.560 Goal?

05:22:33.160 Or, like, what's...

05:22:33.900 You tell us.

05:22:34.440 You put up...

05:22:34.980 Hey, guys, be nice.

05:22:35.080 Please skip Shamu.

05:22:36.760 It's not great for you.

05:22:38.020 Be nice.

05:22:38.140 Come on, guys.

05:22:38.700 Guys, be nice.

05:22:38.960 Fat white girls about their big bones Shamu.

05:22:41.740 You should have an eating disorder, dumbass.

05:22:44.500 Throwing off gravity.

05:22:46.380 Please offer.

05:22:48.400 Dude, guys, be nice.

05:22:49.900 Come on.

05:22:50.100 Holy fuck, bruv.

05:22:51.200 Do you not scream these before?

05:22:53.000 No, it's like...

05:22:53.980 It comes in automatically.

05:22:56.260 It's instant.

05:22:57.060 It's like, boom.

05:22:58.980 I mean, at least they're paying to be rude.

05:23:01.060 So, like...

05:23:01.340 That's true.

05:23:01.760 Truth Bongo native $200.

05:23:04.720 Victim mindset too strong in this one.

05:23:07.600 She absolutely can't take ownership for anything she says or does.

05:23:12.080 This chick is absolutely nuts.

05:23:13.660 Is it eugenics to want to send home?

05:23:14.460 Why don't you care about all the black men killing each other?

05:23:17.740 That's exactly...

05:23:18.280 Well, no, it's...

05:23:18.920 Black-on-black crime is a huge problem, but that's also mostly due to Ronald Ragin and

05:23:24.220 Richard Nixon.

05:23:25.020 Are you a genocidal person?

05:23:28.320 Eugenicist, just like Margaret Sanger.

05:23:30.340 Ooh, no.

05:23:31.400 Here, we have it.

05:23:32.100 Here, let me read this.

05:23:32.920 Literally everything.

05:23:33.840 This was in the fire too long.

05:23:36.200 Literally everything around you is white culture.

05:23:38.140 Cars, electricity, politics, literature, technology, work ethic, innovation, self-improvement,

05:23:44.040 philanthropy.

05:23:45.420 That's from literally everything.

05:23:46.440 Self-improvement is white culture?

05:23:47.660 Worth ethic?

05:23:48.640 Like, this whole country was built on people of color.

05:23:52.060 What?

05:23:52.780 Like, while the white people just...

05:23:55.040 Go do that.

05:23:55.720 Go do that.

05:23:56.480 You know they had to...

05:23:57.760 Oh my God.

05:23:58.560 What?

05:23:59.540 Innovation?

05:24:00.740 Literally!

05:24:01.800 The way black people have given so much more to innovation.

05:24:05.540 Farha, do you cosign her whole island planet thing?

05:24:11.460 Of sending white people to another planet?

05:24:13.360 Yeah.

05:24:13.900 No.

05:24:14.940 Into the mic, please, so they can...

05:24:16.540 No, Brian.

05:24:17.400 No, and then I would lose like a majority of my OnlyFans subscribers.

05:24:20.660 Oh my God.

05:24:21.220 So I'm not going to be pro send the white man all the way to the planet.

05:24:24.720 And I'm not backing up on anything I say.

05:24:26.820 I stand on everything I said because at one point in time that is how I generally feel.

05:24:30.460 Question.

05:24:30.760 But you can evolve and grow as a person.

05:24:32.660 If all men just disappeared, do you think the world would be better or worse?

05:24:37.240 All men.

05:24:38.680 It'd be safer.

05:24:40.320 Would it?

05:24:40.700 And I'm bisexual, so I wouldn't mind hating pussy until I die.

05:24:43.240 Do you actually think the world would be safer if all men disappeared?

05:24:46.840 It would not be safer.

05:24:50.180 It would be absolutely catastrophic.

05:24:51.840 I mean, I don't think maybe it wouldn't be safer in the terms like maybe a wolf might

05:24:54.820 get me or something.

05:24:55.760 I don't know.

05:24:56.020 A wolf?

05:24:56.660 A wolf?

05:24:57.420 Yo, AB check.

05:24:58.140 Thanks for the gifted 20 memberships.

05:24:59.380 Thank you, dude.

05:24:59.680 I mean, how many women would freeze to death and starve to death?

05:25:02.620 And men can't do the same?

05:25:04.140 Well, here's the thing.

05:25:05.240 Because they can't maintain infrastructure.

05:25:07.360 Women can't maintain infrastructure.

05:25:08.500 Well, if I'm so fat, how am I going to starve to death, Andrew?

05:25:11.740 Are you saying hibernation?

05:25:14.500 Are you talking about hibernation?

05:25:15.500 To be fair.

05:25:15.840 To be fair.

05:25:16.060 To be fair.

05:25:17.000 For you, it might be six months for you.

05:25:21.080 Okay.

05:25:23.200 So long as she has a water supply.

05:25:25.280 Water, you can.

05:25:26.480 Water is what?

05:25:27.140 Like five days?

05:25:28.040 You get stabbed, you'll probably die.

05:25:29.720 I'll live and make it to the hospital.

05:25:31.820 The hospital.

05:25:32.660 I'm not worried.

05:25:33.700 Yeah, a skinny person, she gets stabbed, she's probably going to hit an organ and she's

05:25:36.720 going to die.

05:25:37.220 I don't think you'll understand.

05:25:37.680 I'm not going to make it to the hospital.

05:25:39.120 Like, I'm okay with that.

05:25:40.020 If all men were to disappear, the immediate catastrophe that that would be.

05:25:48.180 For who?

05:25:49.320 Immediate catastrophe.

05:25:52.180 I don't think.

05:25:53.100 How?

05:25:53.680 Okay.

05:25:54.080 So 95% of tanker drivers are men.

05:25:57.400 Because all the infrastructure is run by men.

05:25:57.840 90% tanker?

05:25:58.680 I'm sorry.

05:25:59.160 What?

05:25:59.620 Tanker drivers.

05:26:00.960 Tanker, like in the war?

05:26:02.760 Tankers.

05:26:03.460 What's a tanker?

05:26:04.500 Tanker.

05:26:04.760 The thing that hauls the gasoline.

05:26:06.500 Why do you got to?

05:26:07.340 Here.

05:26:07.680 18 wheeler?

05:26:08.740 So food.

05:26:09.960 No, no.

05:26:10.260 I don't know what a tanker is.

05:26:11.080 No, an 18 wheeler is hauling the tank.

05:26:13.440 Of road workers are men.

05:26:14.880 That's hauling the tank.

05:26:15.880 Water, sewage, electricity, gas, fuel, refinement, telecommunications, IT infrastructure, road

05:26:22.300 maintenance, delivery drivers, police, fire rescue.

05:26:26.960 How about other things like fracking, electrical maintenance, nuclear engineering?

05:26:30.620 Like the list goes on and on and on and on for all the ways that you were delivered in infrastructure.

05:26:33.300 Are women incapable of doing those things?

05:26:35.600 I'm just asking.

05:26:36.380 No.

05:26:36.460 I'm not.

05:26:36.880 I'm just asking.

05:26:38.180 They're not enmeshed enough.

05:26:42.620 Like if you had, let's say you had three months before you knew all men would disappear.

05:26:46.480 Could women enter those workforces?

05:26:48.980 No.

05:26:49.020 They still couldn't actually.

05:26:49.900 Well, I think they could, but the scenario is if all men just instantly disappeared.

05:26:55.920 Okay.

05:26:57.040 Critical infrastructure, if all men disappeared, would fail within hours.

05:27:01.460 The telecom network, loss of power would be, because there's nobody maintaining it.

05:27:07.980 I guess I just don't care about technology enough to care if the power goes out.

05:27:11.720 What about your only fans, though?

05:27:13.480 If you take away 50% of any population.

05:27:14.600 That's true.

05:27:15.360 It would be catastrophic.

05:27:16.660 Since you guys like hypothetical questions so much, would you prefer that all women or

05:27:21.420 all men disappear if you had the choice?

05:27:24.840 If we had the choice?

05:27:27.800 Well, obviously we'd want all women to disappear if that was our choice.

05:27:31.080 What about you, Brian?

05:27:31.600 Because otherwise it would be self-termination, right?

05:27:33.840 So you're saying there's, in this scenario, I'd have to choose.

05:27:37.260 Yes.

05:27:37.500 Well, just to preface this, I wouldn't want women to disappear.

05:27:44.680 So you would choose men?

05:27:45.980 No, no, no.

05:27:46.440 Just, I'm so sorry.

05:27:47.620 Like, I wouldn't want women to disappear.

05:27:50.240 I wouldn't want men to disappear.

05:27:51.740 But if this crazy hypothetical, if I had to choose, I would prefer for men.

05:27:57.380 What about you?

05:27:59.280 I don't like speaking hypotheticals.

05:28:01.400 That's all they've been doing lately.

05:28:02.700 That was the whole conversation.

05:28:03.840 But if that's the hypothetical, as a hypothetical, if you have to choose.

05:28:07.820 Here, let's, okay, let's move on from that, I guess.

05:28:11.660 Can the women still have, can the women still have kids and have men?

05:28:15.480 No.

05:28:15.920 Well, here's the thing.

05:28:16.720 Even if you killed every man, society would go on because technically somewhere out there,

05:28:22.020 there's some lady, a few ladies who are pregnant with boys, girls, whatever.

05:28:25.680 So even right now, we killed every adult and child, man, in nine months, somebody would

05:28:31.920 have a baby.

05:28:32.300 And what about the hermaphrodites?

05:28:33.540 Are we counting them as women or men?

05:28:35.180 Because I could read.

05:28:36.960 Here, this is getting, we're getting into the weeds.

05:28:39.120 Society would be done.

05:28:39.900 We are getting into the weeds.

05:28:41.320 Here, let's, let's get to Myra's tweets here.

05:28:46.620 Woman is hot.

05:28:47.560 Men, is this for my attention?

05:28:49.920 Okay.

05:28:50.460 You look so bad.

05:28:50.780 What does this mean, by the way?

05:28:52.040 That was so, how old is this?

05:28:54.140 I don't know.

05:28:54.680 Don't scroll down, Nick.

05:28:56.780 I'll need no shit popping out.

05:28:58.480 You can't see your own tongue.

05:28:59.320 Okay, whatever.

05:28:59.980 Next.

05:29:01.420 Why is it natural to assume that a sexual intercourse comes to men once a man comes?

05:29:07.000 Amen.

05:29:07.640 This, actually, you read it.

05:29:08.740 Go ahead.

05:29:08.940 The socially accepted misbalance towards satisfying men's needs over women's is disturbing.

05:29:16.600 Should I comment on that?

05:29:17.980 Or is it self-explanatory?

05:29:19.040 Well, I mean, so what I would answer to that with is that as a woman, if you climax, you

05:29:27.160 can, granted, some women can get overstimulated.

05:29:29.880 But as a woman, if you climax, you can continue engaging in sexual intercourse.

05:29:34.340 Whereas men, once we climax, I mean, there's some outliers, I suppose.

05:29:39.120 But once you climax, you're done.

05:29:40.900 You're in the refractory period.

05:29:42.740 You cannot continue.

05:29:43.900 Now, are you saying that?

05:29:46.160 The issue is that they should make sure, if they cannot continue afterwards, that a woman

05:29:51.060 comes first.

05:29:52.160 I agree.

05:29:52.640 That she's satisfied.

05:29:53.040 I agree with you.

05:29:53.700 And a lot of men do not do that.

05:29:56.080 And unfortunately...

05:29:56.940 Maybe you should stop having so many one-night stands and get a partner, and then he'd be

05:30:00.560 more concerned with your...

05:30:01.320 Are you talking about me?

05:30:02.140 Yeah, I'm talking about you.

05:30:02.540 I only had one.

05:30:03.660 Only had one what?

05:30:04.600 Out of the 100, remember?

05:30:06.180 And she only did it because she felt bad for the past.

05:30:07.240 Well, out of the 100, but you've...

05:30:08.040 It wasn't even a one-night stand.

05:30:09.200 That was a pretty fuck.

05:30:09.800 But you've established that you're 33 years old, so that, I mean, I'm assuming that there's

05:30:13.960 been, besides the past two months, you've also dated and engaged in...

05:30:17.660 Yeah, but one-night stand was only once.

05:30:19.560 You've only had one one-night stand.

05:30:20.640 Yeah, and I realized I didn't like it.

05:30:21.900 Fair enough.

05:30:22.640 So, was that the only time that a man did not care about your sexual pleasure?

05:30:27.400 I think it's not just me, but yes, I had some bad experiences as well.

05:30:33.620 Okay.

05:30:33.880 I think, generally speaking, men are used to perceiving a woman as just somebody to satisfy

05:30:42.500 his needs.

05:30:43.740 Erroneous.

05:30:44.420 Yeah, and like...

05:30:45.320 Erroneous.

05:30:46.980 Erroneous.

05:30:47.940 I will tell you, Myra...

05:30:49.080 Orgasm does not matter for majority.

05:30:51.180 No, false.

05:30:52.200 Something that doesn't even exist.

05:30:53.840 Erroneous.

05:30:54.720 Wait, what?

05:30:55.500 Some men even think that doesn't exist.

05:30:58.120 No, that's not true.

05:30:58.540 And then women fake it a lot, and then there's just this whole system of just miscommunication.

05:31:03.680 I'll tell you this.

05:31:04.720 I'll tell you this.

05:31:05.540 In my own experience, I want my girl to come before me, and I will put in...

05:31:10.520 I'll give it the old college try.

05:31:12.120 I'll give it a good faith effort.

05:31:13.280 I want her to come before me, if possible.

05:31:15.520 Some women are multi-orgasmic, multiple times.

05:31:18.760 Even, I want her to come during sex, and then after a couple orgasms, then I'll finally...

05:31:23.920 Okay, I guess I can come.

05:31:25.560 That's my view.

05:31:27.600 I'm a giver.

05:31:30.440 Wow.

05:31:30.640 Not when it comes to cunnilingus, but I am a giver.

05:31:34.120 Wait, what?

05:31:34.920 Oh my God.

05:31:35.960 I don't do that.

05:31:37.520 I'm sorry.

05:31:38.320 Do you get your...

05:31:38.800 Nope.

05:31:39.060 Do you get it?

05:31:39.680 Do you receive?

05:31:40.300 Do you receive?

05:31:40.760 The fuck?

05:31:41.300 Golden showers?

05:31:41.980 No, I'm good.

05:31:42.680 Anything?

05:31:42.900 Do you receive, though?

05:31:44.220 Yes.

05:31:44.940 I will receive.

05:31:45.920 I do not.

05:31:46.120 Oh, so the girl does it to you and doesn't get it back?

05:31:47.820 So you just finger?

05:31:49.000 Okay, DJ Khaled.

05:31:50.140 No, no, no, no, no.

05:31:51.540 Hands.

05:31:52.480 Hands.

05:31:53.360 The peen.

05:31:55.140 And shit, throw...

05:31:56.640 I'll throw in the toy.

05:31:57.420 Fuck it.

05:31:58.080 Okay.

05:31:58.620 I'm fine with this.

05:31:58.980 I'll give you the toy.

05:32:00.140 I'm good.

05:32:00.460 At least you can get down with the toy.

05:32:02.120 Some guys are like, oh, you know, it makes my job easier.

05:32:05.140 It makes my job easier.

05:32:06.040 Why not?

05:32:06.720 If I can get her off with just my hands.

05:32:09.140 Okay, but what's the reason?

05:32:10.640 What's the reason?

05:32:11.180 You just can't get there.

05:32:11.680 It grosses you out.

05:32:12.840 Well, I'm just not...

05:32:13.580 What are your boundaries consent?

05:32:15.020 Yeah, thank you.

05:32:15.840 Thank you for recognizing my boundaries.

05:32:19.020 I...

05:32:19.720 I just...

05:32:21.640 It's not my thing, you know?

05:32:22.920 Just not my thing.

05:32:23.680 Have you tried it at least?

05:32:25.100 I've...

05:32:25.660 The last time I went down on a girl was the Bush administration.

05:32:29.480 Like, literally or figuratively?

05:32:31.820 No, literally.

05:32:33.520 2008.

05:32:34.340 2008.

05:32:34.860 Sorry, Andrew.

05:32:35.300 I know this is haram.

05:32:37.060 Coochies have changed since then.

05:32:38.640 You gotta try it again.

05:32:39.800 Yeah, they've become...

05:32:41.100 They added more flavor.

05:32:42.640 That's kind of...

05:32:44.000 They have more styles.

05:32:44.840 Yeah, from other men, they've added more flavor.

05:32:48.520 M3 Bricks Plaza Don't Skip.

05:32:50.960 But women would literally not survive without men in upcoming World War III.

05:32:55.480 Women, if we were on the 100th date and I asked, what is your view on the Middle East?

05:33:00.940 What is your answer?

05:33:02.540 Well, I just found out I'm recently Middle Eastern, so that was fun.

05:33:05.720 Oh, congrats.

05:33:06.140 So, I don't know.

05:33:07.220 I'm learning about it.

05:33:08.260 What part of the Middle East?

05:33:09.480 Saudi Arabia.

05:33:10.960 You're Saudi Arabian?

05:33:12.100 Yes, I just found this out.

05:33:12.800 She's white Saudi Arabian.

05:33:14.720 Isn't that crazy?

05:33:16.100 And Egyptian from Africa.

05:33:18.220 Oh, did you take like 23andMe or something?

05:33:20.600 Why are you white?

05:33:22.300 Okay.

05:33:23.280 Something like that.

05:33:24.040 Myra, sorry.

05:33:25.440 Going back to your thing.

05:33:26.860 I do think there's some truth to what you're saying.

05:33:30.580 A lot of men probably are selfish in that regard.

05:33:33.340 I will say, though, that the female orgasm response is much more varied than the male

05:33:37.900 orgasm response.

05:33:39.440 And it's also typically a little bit, well, there are some women who are insanely orgasmic

05:33:45.780 to the point where within 10 seconds they'll come, they can have multiples, they can squirt,

05:33:49.600 and they can like, boom, after the other, right?

05:33:52.600 But there are also women who it's like, bro, you can be trying for like 10, 20 minutes.

05:33:56.880 There are women who can't even make themselves come or have extreme difficulty.

05:34:01.960 So, speaking in your case, are you able to make yourself climax?

05:34:05.320 Let me answer the other two points that you made.

05:34:09.280 First of all, I don't think it's even so much of selfishness when it comes to men.

05:34:14.240 I think it's...

05:34:14.880 They just don't know where the clit is?

05:34:15.780 Exactly.

05:34:16.320 They're not educated enough.

05:34:17.680 And there's this taboo.

05:34:18.900 A lot of couples don't even talk about sex, you know?

05:34:22.780 I talk about sex.

05:34:24.000 You would be surprised.

05:34:25.060 Like, they feel ashamed or like men have this pressure to perform or make a woman come.

05:34:30.920 So, at times, they just pretend.

05:34:33.000 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.

05:34:36.660 Brian just doesn't do that.

05:34:38.660 He doesn't want to die from a bad clam.

05:34:41.320 Mirror men not dating for relationships are far less concerned with a woman's needs.

05:34:46.000 So, maybe change your dating strategy.

05:34:48.740 Actually, it was the men that I was dating that the sex was so bad with.

05:34:53.240 And then afterwards, when I started not so much looking for a relationship,

05:34:58.040 but really valuing how the person treats me first and most important,

05:35:03.060 like seeing how much they're attracted to me because that's when they try to put the effort in.

05:35:07.820 As opposed to when you're in a relationship, a lot of men just take it for granted.

05:35:11.540 You were in an eight-year relationship.

05:35:13.900 Did your eight-year relationship have difficulty in that department?

05:35:20.040 It was terrible.

05:35:21.360 And you stayed with him for it?

05:35:23.080 Unfortunately, because the way I was raised, like, it was very conservative.

05:35:27.120 I thought, I have to work for it.

05:35:28.700 I have to suffer.

05:35:29.720 But still, stick to the man.

05:35:32.520 Do you think communication is important in a relationship?

05:35:35.360 Very much.

05:35:35.860 So, why did you not communicate that you had a desire?

05:35:39.060 I did.

05:35:39.100 You did?

05:35:39.400 He actually had an addiction to porn, weed, and alcohol.

05:35:44.120 So, he would choose to stay up late at night indulging all of this instead of having sex with me.

05:35:49.900 And me, as, like, still a teenager back then, I was, like, 16, 17, I did a big number of my self-esteem.

05:35:56.740 And the reason why I'm focusing on myself now more so, as opposed to giving to other men.

05:36:02.060 Well, I mean, maybe one of the big factors there was that you started having sex when you were 16, 17.

05:36:08.980 So, a woman has to get, push out a baby and get married by 24, but can't stop, start having sex.

05:36:16.780 Whatever time you want to get down is okay, but you guys are giving women, what is that, like, a four-year window to find out how to have sex, find out what they like, find a husband.

05:36:25.720 Get to know their own bodies.

05:36:27.300 Biologically, that's the clock that you just press on.

05:36:29.220 You said she's having sex early at 16, but also earlier you said that our biological clock starts ticking and is almost over at 24.

05:36:38.320 Yeah, both are true at the same time.

05:36:39.640 Isn't that crazy?

05:36:40.460 I'm just asking.

05:36:41.220 It's not crazy.

05:36:41.980 Both are true.

05:36:42.840 Let me, both are true at the same time.

05:36:44.340 Let's, let's not get, let's, let's troubleshoot.

05:36:46.720 We don't have much time.

05:36:47.640 We gotta hurry up, girl.

05:36:48.820 Let's troubleshoot.

05:36:49.320 I mean, I didn't add into your point.

05:36:51.840 Oh, yeah.

05:36:52.520 We gotta hurry up.

05:36:53.660 See, there's so much pressure from society.

05:36:55.660 Let's, let's troubleshoot this, this.

05:36:57.380 Okay, well, it's not just, it's not from society.

05:36:59.640 It's from biology.

05:37:00.940 It's not pressure from society.

05:37:01.920 And that is changing, too.

05:37:03.240 Because we're aging way slower now.

05:37:05.900 Our life expectancy is way larger now.

05:37:08.500 Your fertility years are the same.

05:37:09.900 You're talking, you're talking about the orgasm gap.

05:37:11.920 Yeah, but people.

05:37:12.320 Are you talking about the orgasm gap?

05:37:13.800 Like, the orgasm gap?

05:37:16.360 Orgasm disparity.

05:37:17.280 Men get, have more, come more than women.

05:37:19.960 Yes.

05:37:20.820 It's, there's, there's different.

05:37:22.980 Yo, Bone Man, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.

05:37:25.980 What I would say to you is that, one, I think the responsibility here falls on both men and women.

05:37:33.640 I think men are not mind readers.

05:37:36.760 So you gotta, you gotta have conversations about it.

05:37:40.080 Now, I think as men, we need, like, me personally, like, if I'm getting intimate with a new woman, I'm gonna, you know, I'll try some things out.

05:37:47.300 But I might say, well, do you like more pressure, less pressure, left, right, up, down, you know, I'm gonna try to suss it out, fast, slow.

05:37:59.320 But do you know a majority of men aren't like that, right?

05:38:02.080 Well, I don't know why they aren't, honestly, because, like, it's, I think it's hot when my girl comes.

05:38:07.380 Like, especially during sex, if she's coming during sex, and you feel the, the contractions and shit, that's, makes the sex better for me.

05:38:16.880 That's true.

05:38:17.840 Even if I'm totally selfish, I think the sex is better if the girl's coming.

05:38:21.280 But I, obviously, I want to give my partner pleasure, too.

05:38:23.640 But even if I was totally selfish, I think sex is better if the girl's, she gets wetter if she comes.

05:38:28.100 So, I mean, I don't know.

05:38:29.980 We're just telling you with our collective experience that, that's, you're a unicorn.

05:38:34.480 Oh.

05:38:35.160 It's not as common as.

05:38:37.120 Also, it is harder to, I, uh, granted, there are women who come really easily.

05:38:42.320 But there are some women, there's some women that.

05:38:44.320 Yeah, it's harder to make a girl sound.

05:38:45.040 Do you ever get upset that there's other men that make you look bad?

05:38:49.500 Wait, what do you mean?

05:38:50.620 Wait, where's this coming from?

05:38:51.940 Like, all those men, or not, like, make you look bad.

05:38:54.820 Like, not you specifically, to an extent.

05:38:57.440 But, like, for example, like, all the white men in my life that have treated me bad.

05:39:01.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:39:01.920 Right, and so then, like, naturally, you wouldn't, like, do you feel any kind of, like, those one guys, like, fucked it up for the rest of them, like.

05:39:10.440 So, you're saying all the men that aren't giving all these women orgasms, like, it's giving, it's, it's looking bad.

05:39:18.360 I think it's actually, maybe it's good for me.

05:39:20.400 This is why the women are.

05:39:21.740 It's good for me, because I'm trying to make.

05:39:22.960 But are you understanding why the women are acting, or, like, thinking the way they are?

05:39:27.400 Because you're, like, wow, if I'm, like, the unicorn, like, I want, you, wouldn't you tell your other male friends, like, step it up.

05:39:34.200 Don't be afraid to get a toy.

05:39:36.240 There's a couple things here.

05:39:36.920 Like, so, okay, there's some women, like, I've encountered a woman who she, she's not, she wasn't even able to make herself cum.

05:39:42.600 Okay.

05:39:42.880 So, I was, like, well, okay, if you can't even make yourself cum, then it might, I mean, I can, I'm gonna try.

05:39:48.900 But if, you know, maybe you, there are some women who have a lot of difficulty climaxing, or some women just can't.

05:39:58.280 Yeah, that's true.

05:39:59.400 But, if, you know, if you can make yourself cum, then I think a guy can make you cum.

05:40:04.920 So, yeah, I don't know.

05:40:08.280 I also think there's a lot of repressed sexuality in women.

05:40:12.280 If we look at, like, again, historically, women were sort of used by men for their pleasure and to produce offspring.

05:40:21.040 So, a lot of women don't even, they haven't even felt comfortable to explore the bodies.

05:40:26.760 Erroneous.

05:40:27.360 Yeah.

05:40:27.780 Well, that's just more standpoint theory again.

05:40:30.160 So, you're looking at history through a uniquely, through a unique female perspective.

05:40:35.600 And that's not the case.

05:40:36.780 It's not the case that they, like, for instance, Eastern cultures.

05:40:39.780 Have you ever seen all of the, the massive quantity of sex books in Eastern cultures?

05:40:46.120 No, I have not.

05:40:46.840 Okay, well, it's, they have a huge catalog of them going way back for, you know, several thousand years.

05:40:55.540 Have you seen those, have you seen those prehistoric dildos?

05:40:59.120 I'm more so, okay, I can't speak for everyone.

05:41:02.620 I know that there's some conservative families, and like I said, I do come from one of those as well.

05:41:06.760 So, for me, it's been a journey, especially coming to America and seeing how sexually liberated American women are.

05:41:13.480 Where are you from?

05:41:14.060 Where are you from?

05:41:14.540 Why don't you tell us where you're from?

05:41:15.820 I was.

05:41:16.380 You don't think European women are more like.

05:41:17.580 Are you from Russia?

05:41:19.120 Sexual?

05:41:19.620 It depends on the country.

05:41:20.540 I think she's from Kazakhstan.

05:41:21.780 Andrew Wilson, I think she's from Kazakhstan.

05:41:23.120 Sure, let's go to Kazakhstan.

05:41:24.460 Okay.

05:41:24.560 So, for me, seeing that, that was, first it was a little scary, but then it was liberating, because I saw that women just choose for themselves.

05:41:35.500 They can stay, you know, far, still keeping it celibate, you know, that she's waiting, or they can indulge in whatever fun they want.

05:41:45.620 It's beautiful.

05:41:46.500 It's the freedom of choice.

05:41:47.840 It's decadence.

05:41:49.460 I understand your point.

05:41:51.260 Okay.

05:41:51.500 I think I understand you now, as a human.

05:41:53.960 Next tweet.

05:41:56.720 Twitch is reinforcing misogynistic system.

05:41:58.800 Oh, you read it.

05:41:59.480 Sorry, my bad.

05:42:00.180 Go ahead.

05:42:01.280 Twitch is reinforcing misogynistic system discriminating women bodies.

05:42:04.840 If men are allowed to have nipples poked through a shirt, then women should be, too.

05:42:08.820 If I choose to wear socially appropriate clothing without underwear for comfort, Twitch staff shouldn't ban my channel for it.

05:42:15.900 Great.

05:42:16.720 I'm actually a feminist on it.

05:42:18.600 I'm, you know, the free the nipple movement.

05:42:20.240 I am a feminist.

05:42:22.260 I'm for it.

05:42:23.420 If women want to be walking around topless.

05:42:26.320 Would you date a girl that's tits, her tits, like, you can see them through her shirt?

05:42:31.280 Big titties?

05:42:31.640 What?

05:42:32.480 Huh?

05:42:32.940 If I could see, would I date a girl if I could see?

05:42:34.720 Would you date a girl who would, like, wear a white tank top with no bra underneath, like, around your family?

05:42:39.800 I don't really have a strong position on bras.

05:42:42.520 I don't care.

05:42:43.080 If she wants to wear bras, cool.

05:42:44.920 If she doesn't, cool.

05:42:45.840 I don't, don't really care.

05:42:47.500 I don't care if she's topless around other men.

05:42:48.960 Oh, okay.

05:42:49.720 Well, that's a little different here.

05:42:51.260 So you're not free the nipple.

05:42:52.680 Right.

05:42:53.180 I'm, well, hold on.

05:42:54.680 Like, at the beach?

05:42:55.540 Could she be topless there?

05:42:56.620 Yeah, like a nude beach?

05:42:57.440 With mixed company.

05:42:57.860 I support the free the nipple movement.

05:43:02.260 I'll leave it.

05:43:03.320 I support free the nipple.

05:43:05.720 What about you, Andrew?

05:43:06.220 I know Andrew might disagree with me, but actually, do you?

05:43:08.600 No, I don't think that, I think it's indecency both ways.

05:43:12.420 So I tend to think that men shouldn't walk around with their shirts off, and I also tend

05:43:16.900 to think that women shouldn't walk around with their shirts off.

05:43:18.660 Wait, but Andrew, what about the beach?

05:43:20.280 Like, guy with, like, swim trunks.

05:43:22.400 Mm-hmm.

05:43:23.000 Yeah.

05:43:23.320 Is the beach okay?

05:43:23.880 Well, I think in that particular instance, it's all right, yeah.

05:43:26.700 I have a question.

05:43:28.160 So what about nipples poking through the shirt?

05:43:30.080 Should men wear bras as well to cover their nipples, just like women?

05:43:33.620 Well, it depends if he has moobs.

05:43:35.520 Or pasties, yeah.

05:43:36.280 Well, first of all, if you're looking at the distinction in chest, right, so women have

05:43:42.440 much larger breasts, so their nipples tend to protrude.

05:43:46.920 However, there are men, right?

05:43:49.700 Men, I've seen it.

05:43:50.760 Big, fat men who also have their nipples protruding.

05:43:53.680 And yes, those fuckers should wear a different shirt, for sure, rather than have their nipples

05:43:58.460 protruding.

05:43:59.000 I should try to loosen them.

05:44:00.020 Okay, so you think those should cover their nipples to let it out?

05:44:02.720 Well.

05:44:03.240 Here, let's...

05:44:03.640 Or is it just overweight men with larger...

05:44:05.460 I think that we should have uniform decency laws, yeah.

05:44:07.820 Our boobs are not inherently sexual.

05:44:09.900 I don't think that.

05:44:10.880 So what's indecent about nipples?

05:44:13.300 Here, let's not linger too long.

05:44:14.940 Well, what's indecent about walking around completely naked?

05:44:19.880 Next one, next.

05:44:20.660 I mean, what's really indecent about it?

05:44:22.140 Yeah, I would agree.

05:44:22.940 There's nothing.

05:44:23.380 It's just social.

05:44:24.800 But do you think that people...

05:44:26.040 Then would you support just people walking around completely naked all day?

05:44:29.000 Yes.

05:44:29.160 Yes, it will take a while to transition there, because obviously...

05:44:31.820 What about having sex in public?

05:44:33.120 What's indecent about that?

05:44:34.400 Ooh, that's hot.

05:44:35.960 Your body being naked is not...

05:44:36.940 What's indecent about it?

05:44:38.100 It's also social, and I would agree that that is something we can come to with time.

05:44:44.980 Yeah, what's indecent about it?

05:44:46.100 I don't think it's indecent.

05:44:47.180 It's not indecent to have sex in public?

05:44:48.800 No.

05:44:49.040 What about sex in public in front of minors?

05:44:51.080 Having sex...

05:44:51.680 That's crazy.

05:44:52.920 Having sex is being sexual.

05:44:55.340 Hang on.

05:44:55.600 I just want that question.

05:44:56.480 Is that indecent?

05:44:57.200 I would not have sex in public in front of minors.

05:44:59.680 Yeah, but is it indecent?

05:45:01.420 I guess so if I said I will not do that.

05:45:03.420 Okay, so what makes it indecent, but not just sex in public?

05:45:06.880 Because there's a certain vibe that should not be...

05:45:10.000 It's a vibe?

05:45:11.340 It's too sexual.

05:45:12.340 No, because I believe that children should not be exposed to sex.

05:45:19.120 I didn't say a child.

05:45:20.620 I said a minor.

05:45:21.280 You said you were having sex at 17.

05:45:22.900 What is a minor?

05:45:23.480 Isn't that a child?

05:45:24.740 No.

05:45:25.460 Doesn't have to be.

05:45:26.520 Whoa, look at that.

05:45:27.640 Stifler.

05:45:28.180 Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.

05:45:31.740 Stifler.

05:45:32.500 Here, we're going to go around the table on that, starting with you.

05:45:35.080 Go ahead.

05:45:35.660 And...

05:45:36.100 Whose looks are we rating?

05:45:37.640 Your own looks.

05:45:38.880 Oh, my looks?

05:45:39.900 Yeah.

05:45:40.220 Out of 10.

05:45:41.460 Yeah, your own looks.

05:45:48.940 I'll give myself a 10.

05:45:52.100 In the fat girl community, I would give myself a 10 out of 10.

05:45:55.860 In society, I'd give myself a 7.5 out of 10, to be realistic.

05:45:59.620 I'd give myself a 10, as well.

05:46:05.260 Yeah, I would give myself a 10.

05:46:06.640 I think everyone should give themselves a 10.

05:46:09.880 I mean, I feel like my confidence is like a 10, but societal standards may be like a 7 or 8.

05:46:19.160 I would say 8, too.

05:46:20.320 I'm a 20.

05:46:23.720 Yes.

05:46:24.380 Yeah, we'll go with that.

05:46:25.740 You are.

05:46:26.040 Since we're all going to lie, I'll just be a 20.

05:46:28.280 I will answer honestly and say I used to be a 6, but honestly, I'm a 5 right now because I've said this.

05:46:35.120 I've gained some weight recently.

05:46:37.280 I've got a little bit of a dad bod going on.

05:46:39.660 I need to lose some weight, guys.

05:46:40.700 But that's in trend.

05:46:41.220 Dad bods are hot.

05:46:41.960 They're in.

05:46:42.520 In my personal worldview, I think being shredded with a six-pack would be way better.

05:46:50.440 So I'm a 5 because my face has gotten a little chubbier, gotten a little chubbier in the belly.

05:46:57.780 I am a 5.

05:46:59.120 I'm working on it, though.

05:47:00.000 I'm going to lose some weight, and I will get back to my previous, maybe even, I could go beyond a 6.

05:47:05.420 I could get to a 7, 6.9 maybe.

05:47:07.740 Who knows?

05:47:08.420 If I get a six-pack, I think I would be a solid 7 if I got a six-pack and a little more muscular definition.

05:47:16.180 I mean, I think you're being a little mean to yourself.

05:47:18.300 No, I'm being, I'm being.

05:47:20.560 I think some of you are being a little nice to yourself.

05:47:22.720 What do you really rate yourself, though?

05:47:24.560 I'm not anything special.

05:47:26.640 Maybe a 6.

05:47:27.860 Maybe a 6.

05:47:29.060 Maybe.

05:47:30.000 Maybe 20 years ago.

05:47:31.220 I think you guys have a lack of confidence.

05:47:32.500 No, it's not a lack of confidence.

05:47:34.280 And confidence could make the rating go up.

05:47:35.780 It's just realism.

05:47:36.980 It's just being realistic.

05:47:38.320 The confident thing is to acknowledge, yeah, I'm a 6, and I'm okay with that.

05:47:44.580 I'm a 5 right now, though.

05:47:45.800 I'm a 5.

05:47:46.380 I'm a 5 right now.

05:47:47.400 Huh?

05:47:48.000 Huh?

05:47:49.020 I don't know.

05:47:50.180 Someone came up to me, a guy or a girl, and was like, I'm just so ugly.

05:47:53.900 I don't think I'm that attractive.

05:47:55.240 Well, that's delusional, not confidence.

05:47:56.960 That's a difference.

05:47:58.060 It's just being delusional.

05:47:58.800 So you're just asking a person to assess themselves honestly.

05:48:01.320 Yeah, but someone could look at you and be like, that's a 10.

05:48:05.680 Yeah, you don't think that's very subjective?

05:48:07.160 So you think, so wait to say, beauty, there's an objective.

05:48:09.500 Let me just ask you about this criticism here.

05:48:11.480 Like, honestly, I gotta know this criticism.

05:48:12.500 I feel like I know where this one's going.

05:48:13.720 If the other girls who are there are assessing themselves at a 10, societally, how in the

05:48:19.920 world could you possibly be assessing yourself at a 7?

05:48:23.100 I said 7 1⁄2.

05:48:24.140 Yeah, how?

05:48:24.520 Um, I mean, other than being fat, like.

05:48:29.700 You mean the big thing?

05:48:31.060 Like the literal elephant in the room, right?

05:48:33.900 As it were?

05:48:34.460 I mean, but like, I date, like, people, I mean.

05:48:41.840 She's pulled some hot.

05:48:42.840 I'm dating celebrities, billionaires, millionaires.

05:48:46.880 I'm not even trying to be billionaires.

05:48:48.340 Like, all the memes, all the memes aside.

05:48:49.860 We're memeing a bit on each other.

05:48:51.420 But what I'm saying is this, it's like.

05:48:53.660 And a lot of guys don't want to admit that they like fat girls because of guys like you

05:48:59.120 where you would turn around and look at your friend and be like, oh, I can't believe

05:49:01.840 you like that whale.

05:49:02.940 And then he feels really unconfident.

05:49:04.440 No, they don't.

05:49:05.100 And then goes to my page on OnlyFans and spends $800 to collect my content.

05:49:09.200 So, you know, it's a lot of like, maybe if you made your men counterparts more friendly,

05:49:13.740 you would realize what a broad taste of women men actually have.

05:49:17.840 Most of the dudes who are running around with fat chicks are ugly dudes.

05:49:22.000 Most of them.

05:49:23.620 Not some of them.

05:49:24.440 Most of them.

05:49:24.940 Wait, okay.

05:49:25.220 That is actually.

05:49:26.420 Let's not linger on the whole, you know.

05:49:28.620 I don't know.

05:49:29.200 The fat thing for too long.

05:49:30.060 I can't.

05:49:30.500 That's not my experience.

05:49:32.640 As also someone who's currently in, I've been in Vogue.

05:49:36.340 You can go see my face in Nordstrom's.

05:49:37.500 Nordstrom's, Ulta Beauty, Morphe Brushes.

05:49:40.620 Yeah, but that's because of culture.

05:49:41.360 I am like a.

05:49:42.180 That's a political push to politicize a message nobody wants.

05:49:45.820 Like men.

05:49:46.660 Wait, is being fat as a porn category also political?

05:49:49.400 Are men only jacking off to overweight girls because it's woke?

05:49:52.180 They're men.

05:49:52.580 Right.

05:49:52.920 Oh, so men really don't like that.

05:49:54.420 So in that category, where does it fall?

05:49:57.220 Overarchingly in the porn categories?

05:49:58.820 Like one through 20, let's say.

05:50:00.820 Where would it be?

05:50:01.800 Would it be underneath all of the hot chicks?

05:50:04.200 Right?

05:50:04.420 Where would it be?

05:50:05.080 BBW.

05:50:05.560 Is it more popular than the hot chicks or less popular than the hot chicks?

05:50:08.600 And it's still popular regardless.

05:50:09.740 Right, but what is more popular than that is the hot women.

05:50:11.620 If it was actually so repulsive, but if you're treating it like it's repulsive and people

05:50:14.700 are running the other way, but if they're searching.

05:50:16.020 Well, there's people who have a fetish.

05:50:17.100 Fat girl.

05:50:17.700 Not some people.

05:50:18.360 But it's not a fetish.

05:50:19.240 Some people.

05:50:19.960 A lot.

05:50:20.240 It's popular.

05:50:20.700 But just because you like a fat girl doesn't mean you have a fetish.

05:50:23.020 No, what I'm saying is that.

05:50:23.680 Most of my exes had never dated a fat girl before me.

05:50:26.080 If you're cutting up pornography in this way and you're saying, all the people who are

05:50:30.920 watching pornography, there's this subset which like to watch fat girl pornography, that

05:50:34.860 doesn't mean anything.

05:50:35.820 It does.

05:50:36.240 It does.

05:50:36.580 Because it's because of people like you saying like, oh, it's only ugly guys who are running

05:50:41.780 around fat chicks.

05:50:42.540 But I think porn is a catalog of everyone's guilty pleasures and their actual desires

05:50:45.800 when they're not socially inhibited and they're alone.

05:50:47.260 It could just be a kink.

05:50:47.940 So if that's a popular.

05:50:49.580 Could just be some kind of weird kink.

05:50:51.260 Is a kink not related to attraction?

05:50:52.520 Not always.

05:50:53.220 Or maybe people don't go for the things they have a kink in.

05:50:56.660 It's not that hard to believe that some people are attracted to other body sizes.

05:51:00.500 I'm not saying that there's not some who aren't.

05:51:02.980 I'm just saying that normally what I see in societies, when you have an ugly person or

05:51:06.420 with an ugly person, when you have a beautiful person or with a beautiful person.

05:51:09.360 I usually don't see it the opposite way.

05:51:11.440 But you're saying automatically anyone who is fat now is ugly.

05:51:14.740 I'm almost done.

05:51:15.460 I'm saying that most of the time I see really fat women, they're with really fat dudes.

05:51:19.760 Most of the time.

05:51:20.660 Wait, I have a question for you related to that.

05:51:21.960 See, most guys that hit on me are gym bros that are fit as fuck.

05:51:27.220 That's like number one.

05:51:28.860 The fittest, like, you should see the amount of, like, what are they called?

05:51:32.620 Like, the pumper people, the bodybuilders that are in my DMs.

05:51:35.640 Penis pumpers.

05:51:36.540 Insane.

05:51:36.960 What?

05:51:37.180 Maybe things are hard out there.

05:51:38.120 Penis pumpers.

05:51:39.120 Maybe they're hard out there.

05:51:39.880 They love the difference.

05:51:41.780 They love it.

05:51:42.340 Or it's skinny, white video gamers because they love, they're tall.

05:51:48.860 They're like the contract.

05:51:49.860 Y'all don't believe your own dick.

05:51:50.220 Y'all don't believe your own bros.

05:51:51.900 What the fuck?

05:51:52.980 Wait, hold up.

05:51:53.500 Like, literally, my top men that always hit on me are always, not only are they thin, but

05:51:58.220 they are fucking shredded.

05:52:00.000 I've been dating NFL players, rappers fucking, they're, I'm not even going to name drop some

05:52:05.000 of those celebrities, but their boyfriends are in my DMs.

05:52:07.180 Like, she's seen it.

05:52:10.920 Like, it's literally, you'd be surprised.

05:52:13.220 And it all comes down to a lot of men like you who talk like this, and then they just

05:52:18.960 go along with, oh, yeah, fat chicks are ugly, man.

05:52:22.100 But then, like I said, they run back over to me, spend all their money, want to see everything.

05:52:28.520 It's something that they've loved forever, but they don't feel confident enough because

05:52:32.000 their friends aren't supportive of their takes.

05:52:34.940 Wait, I got a question on you.

05:52:35.320 Even if it's different.

05:52:36.080 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

05:52:36.960 So it's men?

05:52:37.500 You can say it's not my taste, but you have already equaled all fat women to being ugly.

05:52:43.300 You think the problem is that men like me are creating a social stigma against other

05:52:47.460 men having to go hooking up with fat chicks?

05:52:49.580 That was the beginning of that conversation.

05:52:51.640 Really?

05:52:51.820 What do you think gay guys have fears?

05:52:53.160 You don't think that it's because they're fat chicks and they're just unattracted to

05:52:56.680 them?

05:52:57.240 No.

05:52:57.780 You're unattracted to them, and you're making your friends feel shame and guilt for what

05:53:01.920 they're attracted to.

05:53:02.140 You don't make them feel shame and guilt.

05:53:03.800 Yes, you do.

05:53:04.260 When you talk like that.

05:53:05.700 Do you think when you talk like that, that that's positive reinforcement?

05:53:09.040 I'm not going to, I don't need to positively reinforce the thing.

05:53:12.340 They all know.

05:53:13.040 You're tearing down your friends.

05:53:14.680 It's something that everyone knows because you have no fucking confidence, Andrew.

05:53:18.460 How do you know all of my friends aren't the same way?

05:53:22.040 Where they're like all-

05:53:23.120 How would you know if you're constantly being an asshole and have never provided the safe

05:53:27.480 place for them to open up and be like, maybe I like black chicks.

05:53:30.680 Maybe I like fat girls.

05:53:32.020 Just because you don't like black girls are all black girls ugly now?

05:53:35.520 Wait, you think that men who rib each other incessantly, talk smack to each other incessantly,

05:53:40.040 don't know?

05:53:41.000 Like, they don't let you know the types of different weird shit that they're into?

05:53:44.780 They do it all the time.

05:53:45.600 Yes, you don't think there's closeted gay guys who don't tell their straight friends?

05:53:48.840 That's what they're saying.

05:53:48.940 That's what they're saying.

05:53:49.440 That's what they're saying.

05:53:49.940 No, seriously.

05:53:50.640 DL married in DL.

05:53:52.220 Listen, to make this ridiculous statement that the reason that societally men just don't

05:53:59.180 go, the good quality, very handsome men don't go for the big fat chicks because guys like

05:54:04.400 you create stigma.

05:54:05.300 That's nuts.

05:54:06.120 What about 17th century when extra weight was considered to be attractive and I would be

05:54:10.720 considered ugly because I'm stupid.

05:54:12.220 That kind of extra weight.

05:54:13.540 I want to add, though.

05:54:14.980 Have you seen the statues?

05:54:16.200 Yes.

05:54:17.080 This is, you'd be surprised.

05:54:19.440 In some cultures, that's still, it's not ridiculous.

05:54:22.940 I was, there's a culture.

05:54:24.020 It is ridiculous.

05:54:24.740 Would I?

05:54:25.220 I'm talking about fertility statues.

05:54:26.960 Okay, let's put it this way.

05:54:28.040 Say I was an ugly fat girl, which I'm not and I'm confident in that.

05:54:31.860 Would they still put me in Nordstrom's because that's my face.

05:54:35.600 It's a political agenda.

05:54:36.200 That's my face.

05:54:36.940 You can't see my fucking body.

05:54:38.440 I'm fucking gorgeous.

05:54:40.040 It's political.

05:54:41.020 I'm gorgeous.

05:54:41.760 They're trying to push a political message.

05:54:44.880 Push a political message of what?

05:54:46.120 You can't see my body.

05:54:47.480 I have literally been handpicked by my fucking waist up and told I'm one of the most beautiful

05:54:52.620 models in the world.

05:54:53.700 I get flown from New York to LA to Canada to everywhere in fucking between.

05:54:58.880 And you think it's because I'm ugly?

05:55:00.400 No, I think it's because there's a political tool.

05:55:02.520 You're a political tool.

05:55:02.940 It doesn't matter.

05:55:03.740 But like, okay, so out of all the fat people, like, you don't think there's one pretty

05:55:08.400 one, you don't, like, they're not putting ugly fat people up on there.

05:55:12.440 One sec, one sec, one sec.

05:55:13.300 It is literally delusional to pretend that fat girls are conventionally attractive.

05:55:16.980 I didn't say they were conventionally attractive.

05:55:18.500 Notice that the fat tad campaigns are being replaced with athletic attractive models.

05:55:23.020 Wait, wait, wait, one thing, one thing.

05:55:25.180 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

05:55:26.860 What?

05:55:27.120 Athletic wear in the plus size community is the number one thing on the rise.

05:55:29.520 I just need to say one thing.

05:55:29.580 The views expressed on the Whatever podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the

05:55:36.700 Whatever podcast or the host.

05:55:38.860 Oh, thank you, Monaster Kamil, thank you.

05:55:41.960 Rates herself as a 10, date celebs, do these celebs, love you.

05:55:45.240 Interesting you need backup, blank, means nothing, chads running through you, means nothing.

05:55:50.660 How many chads marry you?

05:55:52.380 Andrew W. Okay. Y'all are aggressive and mad. Yeah, guys, keep it, keep it polite, please. Guys,

05:55:58.980 guys, keep it polite, please. Okay, keep it polite. Keep it polite, you know, for me. Do it for me.

05:56:04.060 Who said anything about backup dick? Backup dick. Oh, is that what that says? Backup dick.

05:56:09.560 That's what that said, right? I don't, I, to be honest, I didn't understand what that said.

05:56:14.300 How did we get to this? I don't know. We were on tweets. Is there more tweets? Is there another

05:56:19.060 tweet? There's another tweet. We have Mira here. If you need to take a little, little breather

05:56:22.460 there, Andrew, feel free to take a, men say their S drive is high until they meet a woman

05:56:26.040 who likes to have sex. So are you saying, what are you saying there? Myra? Mira? Which one?

05:56:35.280 How'd you say it? How'd you say it? It's Mira. It's Mira? Okay. Thank you. Go ahead. BBW is

05:56:42.400 top 10 category consistently. Come on, baby. Come on, Andrew. Come on, baby. Why'd he walk

05:56:47.400 away? Go ahead. Yep. Mira. I think she's got a little more to say. No, no, no, no. Don't

05:56:55.520 yield your time. No, you go on. I just want to make sure they get the comment because you're

05:56:59.440 supposed to read that out loud or whatever. I don't object to your tweet, by the way.

05:57:05.000 Are you, are you, how often do you need, maybe we go around the table on this. I think everyone

05:57:08.600 should answer. If you're in a loving monogamous relationship, if that's what you want, how frequently

05:57:16.120 would you ideally like to be, you know, I like that word. I like that better. Just, you

05:57:24.360 know, just going at it. Let's talk with her. She's married. Really get the, I want to hear.

05:57:29.480 You know, just doing the, maybe like two to four times a day. How often Mira? Two to four

05:57:37.220 times a day, every day. Yeah. Like twice in the morning, twice at night. What defines twice?

05:57:42.560 Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Oh my God. Any man watching F girl is doing it purely. Wait,

05:57:47.720 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Uh, it's purely based on childhood trauma.

05:57:51.740 If an attractive man is dating one, he is recovering from recent rejection or dealing with psychological

05:57:56.540 issues. Always. I guarantee you. Hey, thank you, man. Thank you for your, uh, thank you. Thank

05:58:01.760 you. Okay. Uh, how often would you like to ideally have sex? Man or woman come in? Wait,

05:58:08.440 what? Um, so I was thinking more so like, to be honest, like man coming, but like I could come

05:58:14.560 once or twice a day. Okay. But you still prioritize there? Pleasure? I'm submissive in bed. So I kind

05:58:22.040 of like, if someone says it, like, I'm like, I'll try it twice. Okay. But what if you don't come at

05:58:27.840 all? That's disappointing. It depends. Is it like, if it's a guy I've been dating forever, like, okay,

05:58:33.860 I can like miss a couple of times here and there, but if like, we're just dating and you're trying to

05:58:38.260 impress me, like, yeah, you need to like make me come. Okay. That's where you will communicate

05:58:42.480 actually. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Um, I think I have to agree with her. It depends. Agree

05:58:50.020 with what? Oh, she said two to four, two to four times a day, every day. I would say it doesn't have

05:58:55.600 to be every day. I think, um, that's the question for me specifically just depends on the mood, but it's

05:59:00.860 quite frequently. Saint underscore easy donated $200. Who do you think would win in a fight

05:59:06.600 between girl one and girl two? Maybe later on in the show, but to be frank, I actually

05:59:13.320 take birth control, not to control birth, but to turn down my sex drive. Wow. To turn

05:59:18.720 it down. Wow. Yes. It makes you very high. It makes me quite aggressive because my testosterone

05:59:24.000 and male hormones are high again, based on how I live my life. Oh, because I don't have

05:59:28.720 a man around that I am attracted to enough to have sex. I want to be able to just focus

05:59:34.380 on work. Before we continue on with this question, I want to, I didn't really address the whole

05:59:39.420 10 thing. So I think you said 10, 10 with caveats, 10, 10. Oh, modest. He came a donated

05:59:46.460 $200. Hi, Brickson. I am a BBW. Appropriating big black women from blacks and really am interested

05:59:54.280 in how attracted to me you are. I am tilde 200 pounds, a total raging C and am better than

06:00:00.980 everyone. Date, Mira is one.

06:00:03.800 Okay. Thank you, modest. Jekama. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Okay. Really quick on

06:00:12.460 the 10 thing. Uh, I'm not going to rate you guys, but nobody here is a 10. Sorry.

06:00:18.360 Who's your question of a 10? I don't care. I mean, I don't really care, but like, I'm just

06:00:21.540 curious. Who's your interest in a 10?

06:00:23.180 Well, I can prove this. I can actually prove this to all of you.

06:00:26.080 Oh God.

06:00:26.460 Right this second. And I'll, and here's the thing. Here's the thing. I'll put a hundred bucks

06:00:30.260 on the table that I can prove this to every one of you. I brought makeup wipes, go in

06:00:34.260 there and wipe it off and come back and sit down. I had a feeling when I was sitting outside,

06:00:38.560 I will do that. I had a feeling this was going to pop up.

06:00:40.120 Those ready to go. I'll do that first. Go. Can I have it please? Oh, well the. Can I have

06:00:46.300 that please? Come on. The question. Hold on. Not yet. Not yet. Please. No, we're not. Cause

06:00:50.820 if I'm, if you don't think I'm a 10 with the makeup on, what's the point of me taking it

06:00:53.840 off though? I have a question for you though. Oh, going around the table. Has anybody here

06:00:58.180 had any cosmetic procedures? So lip filler, Botox, plastic surgery, rhinoplasty, uh, BBL,

06:01:06.120 uh, implants, implants, fake tits, lipo, anything. Um, so I had deviated septum as a kid. So

06:01:14.380 that's me. Yeah. Those suck. Yeah. I can breathe very well. So I have that currently. So that

06:01:20.080 got fixed. Besides for that, I do a little bit of filler every once in a while, like once

06:01:25.040 a year, you can see like I'm plump. Okay. What else? That's it. That's not it. What

06:01:31.840 else do you think? Why don't you just tell me then? You have fake breasts. How do you

06:01:36.480 know? I saw your Instagram and you can tell just by looking at my Instagram. Yeah. I've

06:01:42.680 got fake titty, uh, radar. Okay. Am I wrong? Anything? Yes. Anything wrong? Huh? Anything

06:01:51.900 else? No. Am I? Why? Do you have anything else? Do you have a BBL? What's a BBL? Brazilian

06:01:59.760 butt lift, I believe. So a fake butt too? Yeah. No. Did you get that from my Instagram too? No,

06:02:05.540 I'm, I, I don't know. I'm asking if you have one. I'm, I'm fairly confident you have fake

06:02:10.880 breasts though. Okay. Am I wrong? Yes. You don't have fake breasts? No. I'm, wait, can we

06:02:20.280 pull up her? I don't know if her IG is totally kosher. Um, I don't think, I think you have

06:02:29.440 fake, fake breasts. I'm just, I'm just throwing it out there. Okay. Are you, are you actually

06:02:34.100 going to lie though about? Why would I lie about that? What am I gaining from that? We've

06:02:38.640 had women on the show who've lied about that before and then it's quite apparent that they

06:02:42.760 have fake breasts. Okay. But why would, I mean, it's not really something you can lie about,

06:02:48.740 you know? Okay. Would that be easy if I said that I do? Well, I obviously don't want you

06:02:54.600 to lie, but. But you're already telling her she's a liar regardless. I already said no, but

06:03:00.380 you keep asking again and again. What do you think? Uh, definitely the wrong guy to

06:03:07.360 ask that question to. Yeah. He don't know. Oh, okay. I mean, I want, I'm, I'm looking at

06:03:20.000 some of these photos as somebody who is, you know, I think you got fake breasts. I'm pretty

06:03:28.720 confident. Okay. Chat, do you guys. I'll take that as a compliment. Chat, you guys

06:03:32.560 want to hear, uh, let's ask the chat, chat. Let's go to her Instagram chat. Go to her

06:03:40.140 chat, go to her Instagram. One in the chat. If you think she has fake, fake breasts or two

06:03:47.840 in the chat, if you think they're natural. This is getting creepy, bro. How's it creepy?

06:03:52.080 They asked them, they said that. Okay. One person, whatever. Some dude in the chats like prove

06:03:57.680 it. Oh God. You said jumping. I think they look, they look fake to me. It's a lot of

06:04:07.300 ones in that chat. What defines it fake? Hmm? What defines the fakeness? Do you have, do

06:04:11.560 you have implants? No, no. How can you tell? Like, that's what I mean. Can you answer the

06:04:15.140 question though? Or are they like, just fess up? I already answered the question. Just fess

06:04:17.960 up. You have implants. I don't know what else to tell you. I already said no several times.

06:04:22.460 So I'm curious, what makes it look fake? Like what quality is about them? It's like this

06:04:28.960 sort of uncanny valley thing because if you know what like natural breasts look like and

06:04:33.920 you compare them to fake breasts, there is like. So what is that? Can you define that? It's

06:04:38.420 hard for me to precisely articulate it, but you know when you see it. I suppose the best

06:04:43.120 thing I could articulate is obviously, you know, there's various factors, but I mean, the

06:04:48.980 the tautness of the skin typically. Toughness? Taut, tautness. That, that can be, that can

06:04:55.420 be a thing. Um, there's also body proportion. Proportionality. So you can, you can look at,

06:05:02.700 at people, right? I mean, our brains operate as kind of pattern recognition machines. So

06:05:09.980 if we walk around and you see enough people, you start to recognize that women have different

06:05:14.980 proportions. Are you saying my breasts are disproportionately large? I'm not saying anything.

06:05:18.080 I didn't make the accusation. Right to left, Myra. I'm just explaining how you would spot

06:05:20.960 it. Ten please, love my pathetic blank. Two, zero, that a joke. Three, probably beat me

06:05:25.480 into sub. Eight, four, five, five, Kiki. Hot AF, six, one world, whole show, seven, five,

06:05:33.080 Andrew, 15, Brixen, 20. Okay. That was confusing, but. Not they gave you a 15. That's what we're

06:05:38.500 saying. A lot of you guys are a little DL. Yeah. You don't even know it. They want to suck

06:05:42.000 your dick. They love you. Oh my God. Okay. I think my ass actually is larger than my breasts,

06:05:47.760 but people also assume that I have a fake ass. Wait, can you just fess up though? Like,

06:05:52.560 come on, you have, I'm looking at your fucking Instagram. Like, I don't know how many times

06:05:56.080 I have to say this to you, Brian. You have. Would you feel happy if I said I had fake boobs?

06:06:01.040 I'm going to do that for you. Only, only if it's true. I already told you it's not true,

06:06:04.840 but you keep making me say that. Would you feel satisfied if you were right about that? Cause

06:06:09.080 it seems like there's something not clicking in your head. I can say that. I could be wrong.

06:06:15.700 I'm sometimes the radar is off. I'm, I, you know, they look fake. Okay. They look fake to me.

06:06:27.380 My question is though, if you're, were you a 10 before you got all the cosmetic surgery?

06:06:32.440 You mean the lip filler? Huh? You mean the lip filler? Sure. And the other procedures that you

06:06:38.620 refuse to admit to having. So you're still implying that I'm lying? About the fake breasts. Yes. I

06:06:43.760 think you, I think you're lying about the fake breasts. Wow. That kind of hurts my feelings

06:06:48.020 that you don't trust me, Brian. Allow your feelings to be hurt then.

06:06:54.160 Okay. Can we move on? All right. This is a sad moment. I need to check in with my dog babysitter

06:07:02.740 or something. I just, I don't know why you would lie. Like if you have it, just say you have it,

06:07:08.740 I guess. I don't know. Are you going to ask me one more time? No, I'm just, just tell him,

06:07:13.620 please. Yes, Brian, I have fake boobs. But are you lying now? I'm going to kill myself.

06:07:20.260 No. How big is your dick, Brian? Inches. Good question. Hard from the big. I feel like

06:07:27.300 Brian low-key has a big cock. He might be schlanging sometimes. Like, I don't know. He

06:07:31.880 might be schlanging. Because like we get like this whole asshole persona, but he's really

06:07:36.380 making like his girl cum so you know he has like a sensitive side and like he's kind of

06:07:40.880 tall so it's like, I don't know. I'm thinking like some, some big dick. I don't think height

06:07:45.420 matters. I feel like it's in the hands. True. True. How many inches, Brian? That's not true.

06:07:49.800 Put your hands on the table. Don't be scared. I got dainty woman hands. Perfect for pleasure.

06:07:55.760 I got a mic. Yeah, that's true actually. My dexterity is second to none. What the fuck?

06:08:03.240 Okay. Okay. I just, I don't know. I have so many more notes, but frankly it's late. I don't

06:08:11.800 know if we have time to. He didn't answer. Huh? Yeah, I know it's late. Um, but I, we

06:08:20.340 got so many more notes. Um, I'm trying to think if there's, oh, body count. Okay. Why

06:08:26.740 is that always me? I feel like you have a thing for me, Brian. I do. I do. Will you marry

06:08:32.140 me? I thought this was for Jen. Will you marry me? On your knees? No. I refuse. Ooh, that's

06:08:45.960 hot. Um, body count. What's everybody's body count? What if we don't know our body count?

06:08:52.800 Not like it's like crazy. We wouldn't be, that we wouldn't be surprised. So you're saying a lot

06:08:58.400 of guys. Fucker. No, I just said I wouldn't be surprised if you, if you guys didn't know

06:09:02.940 your body counts. Hmm. What's yours? Do you want to give us a range? Well, you were out.

06:09:06.980 Someone was talking about how top 10 category is BB. Okay. Let's not go back there. Was

06:09:12.180 what? Was BB. His head's gonna explode. BB was in top 10. One of your own. What's BBW? Big

06:09:17.980 beautiful women, fat girls. That's the category. Oh, well, so society's gotten sick. I don't

06:09:23.260 know. I don't know what to say. Sick enough to procreate with you. Let me, okay. Let me

06:09:30.640 ask, let me ask, let me ask a, let me ask a first question. Uh, do you object to men caring

06:09:34.820 about a woman's body count? Sorry, but I thought you were asking me about breasts again. Can you

06:09:41.320 repeat that? Ha ha. Ha ha. Do you object to men caring about a woman's body count?

06:09:53.260 Oh no, they can care about whatever they want. Oh, me? Oh, do I, I mean. Do you think

06:10:03.320 it's insecure? Do you think it's, shouldn't matter? I think it only matters if he has a

06:10:09.860 really high body count. Okay. And it's like, how can you have a really high body count?

06:10:14.780 Double standard. Okay. But I mean, if you have a low body count, you want someone else that

06:10:18.740 has a low body count? Like why not? Okay. Yeah. If he's ran through, I think it's stupid.

06:10:25.080 Okay. Yeah. I agree. If they're ran through, I don't think it should be their business, but

06:10:29.800 whatever you're, even if you are ran through and you don't want a girl that's not ran through,

06:10:34.140 I guess, but it's kind of silly. Sure. Okay. I think everyone's entitled to their own preferences

06:10:40.680 preferences when it comes to that. Okay. I think it should matter, but obviously on both

06:10:49.040 sides. Yeah. Well, I mean, just to counter what you guys are saying. So while it might

06:10:54.140 be hypocritical for a man who say is promiscuous to judge a woman for her own promiscuity, I

06:11:02.740 don't, it's a little bit different. I would say that, oh, she's leaving. Okay. This was

06:11:12.620 kind of, okay. All right. Later. Um, I don't think, what, what are you doing? You coming to

06:11:21.680 give me a back massage? What are you doing? Actually, I, oh, she's getting the makeup wipes. Okay.

06:11:26.680 Okay. This girl's so extra. Okay. Um, okay. Okay. Sure. Here, I guess we'll do it. Wait,

06:11:35.300 but do it on, do it on the table, I guess. Um, what was I, I totally forgot. Oh, you're

06:11:40.860 doing it in the bathroom. Just do it here at the table. I know what you're going to say

06:11:44.360 because you said it before is that women desire traits in men all the time that they themselves

06:11:48.580 do not have. So why is it wrong for men to desire a low body count? No, but I don't think

06:11:52.360 it's wrong. Like if a guy say he has a high body count, I don't think it's hypocritical

06:11:57.480 necessarily for him to desire a woman with a low body count. What might be hypocritical

06:12:03.040 is if he were to say that a woman with a high body count can't desire a man with a low body

06:12:10.540 count, that might be hypocritical, but I don't think it's, it's a man who has a high body count.

06:12:19.100 Um, it's fine for him to want a woman with a low body count. If that's what he values,

06:12:23.960 that's your preference, but I would be, Oh, sorry. Well, I mean, and like, like you said,

06:12:30.280 I've said it before in order for you to desire something in someone need, you possess that

06:12:37.220 trait or characteristic. And I don't think so in the same way that a woman who's poor might

06:12:42.240 want to date a rich man, she certainly might be attracted to a rich man. So in order for a woman

06:12:49.420 to date a rich man, must she to be rich? I would say no. In order for a woman to want to date a tall

06:12:56.960 man, must she also be tall or be the same height? No, of course not. In order for a woman to want to

06:13:04.100 date a guy who's funny, need she be funny? No, of course not. So we, I think it's perfectly

06:13:10.900 acceptable to desire traits and characteristics in a partner that you yourself do not necessarily

06:13:16.000 possess. So. Sure. And we already talked about this. And like I said, I think the value of a

06:13:20.500 low body count, like I said, it's better for paired bonding and that works best when it's on both ends.

06:13:25.020 So yes, you can be a short woman and desire a tall man, but I think desiring a low body count

06:13:30.220 and a woman while having a high one is more akin to a guy saying, I want my woman to be exclusive

06:13:34.580 to me while I'm going to be polyamorous. That's how I view it. So that's why I think it's more

06:13:38.260 hypocritical. Not necessarily because I think you can still be a monogamous, even if you've had a

06:13:42.240 high body count, perhaps you've realized, Hey, this is not. No, I was just saying it's an analogy of

06:13:46.480 why I think it's hypocritical. I think you're expecting your partner to be a bit more psychologically

06:13:50.320 bonded to you because the whole point is when you've had less partners, you're going to be more

06:13:53.620 chemically and emotionally attached to the person you're having sex with. So if you want a woman with a

06:13:57.100 low body count, I think there's a bit more equally true between the sexes. It's not exact, but I think

06:14:01.820 generally, yeah, it's not even close to equally true. It is the best pair bonding is between two

06:14:06.880 virgins. Yeah, the best maybe, but that doesn't mean that men with a high body count, like let's say

06:14:11.820 a man has slept with a hundred women and a woman slept with a hundred men. The ability of the man to

06:14:17.780 pair bond is going to be greatly, uh, less decreased than the woman's. Why I, what is this idea that like

06:14:26.100 you guys do, I feel like there's this overall idea that men don't get like emotionally connected to

06:14:32.140 sex. I feel like there's this idea that we don't have, like we exchange energy and men are just like

06:14:39.360 men just deplete women after sex. Like what, why wouldn't it be equal? I can tell you, I can tell

06:14:46.380 you why. Is it the chemical release? Is that what you're going to go into? Nope. We're not even going to

06:14:50.260 get into chemical release. I'll just kind of explain why this is ingrained in human beings

06:14:55.500 because, uh, women for the gatekeepers of sex, they also are the ones who have the children,

06:15:03.000 right? So if men are looking for a woman to have their children, they want to make sure that it's

06:15:09.100 theirs. And we weren't always able to test for whether or not, uh, the paternity of your child

06:15:15.020 was your own. So historically, if a woman was not promiscuous and they pair bonded with you,

06:15:21.400 you could be almost assured of, of the fertility and that the child she's going to have is yours.

06:15:27.320 So that's a way for them to gauge whether or not the child, the woman's having is actually your child.

06:15:33.300 So can you explain to me how that relates to if a man has a hundred bodies versus a woman,

06:15:40.220 a woman having a hundred bodies, how the man is, can pair bond better than the woman?

06:15:46.940 Because, because the whole point is it's a way for you to not raise. It's like a biological way

06:15:53.220 that's ingrained in men so that they're not raising children, which are not theirs due to a woman.

06:15:58.280 Being promiscuous is it? No, no, no. I'm asking. Yeah. I'm trying to answer. I'm actually answering

06:16:03.020 your question. You act like I'm not. I'm saying the reason there's a distinction between the two

06:16:06.620 is because a man can judge better or could judge better before you're able to test,

06:16:13.300 do paternity tests as to whether or not the offspring the woman was having is actually your

06:16:18.120 offspring. The best test for that is the lack of promiscuity in a woman. That does not apply to

06:16:23.980 a man. Why would it apply to a man? No woman's ever going to be testing a man for the paternity

06:16:28.840 of the child. I, you ever seen the Maury show?

06:16:32.560 You know, they, girls be confused about their baby. Yes. They be confused. Yeah, I get it,

06:16:39.280 but you're not ever going to be, you're not ever going to be confused as to whether or not the man

06:16:43.920 is having your child. That's the point because men can't have children. Right. So, so, so it would

06:16:51.580 always be for us to test whether or not the baby is our baby. So the more that a woman is promiscuous,

06:16:59.100 that's why the biological drive was ingrained in us to, I don't know. I don't know. I don't even

06:17:05.300 know how else to explain that. If, if men and women, I'm not really getting what the fuck that

06:17:12.520 has to do with. I just, if you have a bunch of bodies, like man or woman, like you're gonna,

06:17:19.720 you might have a little different. Well, I mean, before, before you could do,

06:17:22.340 and this is a recent invention, before you could do a paternity test, before you could figure out

06:17:27.380 through DNA analysis, whether or not the baby, the woman's having is actually yours.

06:17:32.680 What would be the key things you would look at to make sure that she was actually having your baby

06:17:37.180 and not somebody else's baby and then telling you it was yours? A calendar? Well, that would be,

06:17:42.800 that would be a good metric. Like I'm not gonna lie. That's a good metric one, but also that she could

06:17:47.960 be sleeping with a person right around the same time and babies can come early. They can come

06:17:52.320 months early. And, you know, well, but you can also judge it based off the promiscuity. So the

06:18:00.040 more promiscuous a woman is, the less likely a man would be attracted to her because the less

06:18:05.080 likely he's trusting that the paternity of the children that she would bear are, are going to be

06:18:11.100 his. Guys do. I'm not gonna lie. They, y'all be wiping up some ran through girls. I see it all the

06:18:17.720 like three baby moments at one time. Yeah. I don't said like none of that contents with what I'm

06:18:23.800 saying. Okay. I, there is like this thing where I feel like, again, whatever you consider whores,

06:18:30.860 whatever, but like people, there's this whole idea that like you have to too much sex or you

06:18:36.100 fuck with too many guys. No one's going to want you. You're going to be ran through. And it's not,

06:18:41.080 especially in today's society, it's just not as true. Like I've seen so many and I, it applies to

06:18:47.140 girls more than it applies to men. Cause like you're saying a man, he could, for whatever

06:18:51.720 biological reasons, he can have sex with more people and still be able to pair bond. So I think

06:18:56.120 this applies to women, but, um, Oh my God, I forgot what I was saying. Okay, cool. I'm going to move

06:19:01.440 on because we, we need to, I need to wrap up here very, very soon. So I have a chat here from Puffy

06:19:07.720 Vegas. I will rate the girls ponytail to left yellow shirts, 7.55, 7, 7, 6.55 PS. I'm a nine.

06:19:16.700 He's nine inches. No. Oh, nine inches. Excuse me. Puffy Vegas is packing. Just saying. Um,

06:19:23.980 okay. How would you know? Uh, he admitted it in that TTS. That's a little DL. That's a little DL.

06:19:30.760 Yep. There you have it busted. I was just about to say, I love the gays. Okay. Uh,

06:19:35.840 let's see. We have two. Oh, so you four do OF. Um, I'm just curious what kind of content

06:19:43.240 you guys make. Is it, uh, solo content, BG content? Like what, what kind? You have

06:19:50.780 to go to mirrors.com to see. Why don't you just, I give you so much, Brian. You gave me

06:19:55.760 very little. You sat there pouting. You sat there pouting. Um, I'm not getting enough

06:20:02.160 attention. Let me just go walk around and do jumping jacks. Oh my God, this girl. Um,

06:20:09.560 oh, let me just hold that framed picture of Ziz Rip. Sorry. I wasn't trying to, I was not

06:20:15.820 trying to insult you. I wasn't trying to insult you. Oh my God. Cover your secrets. Oh my

06:20:20.420 God. Awesome. There's just a big bad dig there. My bad. I don't think that would happen. Damn

06:20:27.300 bro. Fucking shit. My bad. I was getting very animated. Um, I don't go to any podcast. This

06:20:33.520 was my first one and I think I shared so much and I hope you guys enjoyed that. And, uh,

06:20:39.900 it's time for me to go to bed now. It's time for me to go to bed. Okay. So what do you do?

06:20:47.960 What do you do though? Like, is it solo content? BG? I'm just curious. Can you hold my hand?

06:20:52.860 I'm okay. All right. What about you? Uh, so I do mostly solo content, but it's not even

06:20:58.920 my like highest rated, uh, the way I make the most money is basically like doing weigh-ins.

06:21:04.980 Guys will jack off to me, weighing myself on a scale. So I'll be like fully clothed. Uh,

06:21:11.900 most of the stuff I do is fully clothed my biggest sellers and then eating, of course,

06:21:16.140 like eat a breakfast. They want to see it, eat my dinner. They want to see it. Uh,

06:21:22.420 I don't know. They like to see me with my belly out. Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's the highest

06:21:26.200 seller. Hold on. Just stay. We're going to wrap. Just stay. Just stay. Modest Hikima donated

06:21:31.140 $200. This black chick has no idea and will act like she is not offended. I called her black.

06:21:37.480 We're almost done. We're almost done by the fact you use the term. Shamu. Gross.

06:21:43.960 Yo. Damn. Sorry. Chat. Roast.

06:21:47.640 Modest Jamaica. I mean, it's clear you missed the beginning where this bitch was like celibate

06:21:52.260 half of her life. I literally, uh, it's okay if you think I'm ran through. I don't know

06:21:58.320 what ran through is. Maybe I, maybe. Sit. Go ahead. Sit. By definition, you do think I'm

06:22:02.160 going through, but yeah. And I'm actually very black. I'm not offended that you told me that.

06:22:07.500 Yeah. I actually never noticed. Can you please take your seat? My back hurts. Okay. If you need

06:22:12.620 to stretch for two minutes, but just take your seat before we wrap, okay? And then topless stuff and

06:22:16.760 then just like topless stuff with other girls. Okay. Okay. We're just going to skip because I need

06:22:26.840 this to be, uh, moved along. Um, uh, is that the name you're looking for? No, just, I mean,

06:22:38.440 I, what are you trying to want to come bring? No, I mean, I'm just going to move on because you

06:22:43.460 guys aren't answering the question. So yeah, I thought you were looking for a new question.

06:22:46.140 That's why. Um, yeah, you didn't clarify. Okay. No, let's go. I was just, are you still asking

06:22:54.880 this question? Are you searching for a new one? No, but it's like, I don't need to, the next,

06:22:58.460 the next, like once, if somebody answers the question, you can just move on to the next person.

06:23:03.860 You had an intermission of talking to Mira. You should clarify. I do solo content. Okay.

06:23:08.020 Thank you. Um, yeah, I mean, I, oh, you do of too. So, okay. Right. You do of, sorry. Okay. Um,

06:23:13.820 yeah, I mean, I don't, into the mics guys, into the mics. I don't do anything with anyone else,

06:23:17.680 I guess. I don't really do sexual stuff in my own life. Solo and like ass content,

06:23:21.820 I would say for you. Bathing suits. Okay. Let's see. And then. Oh, I just kind of do like bikini

06:23:30.120 and lingerie stuff. Have you done any BG content? No. Okay. Uh, okay. Uh, all right. Um, you said

06:23:38.460 you have a twin sister. Oh yeah. I don't know. We really have to wrap. I wish we had more

06:23:43.740 time. Um, well, fuck it. I feel bad because I didn't really get to, I could come back another

06:23:52.560 time with her. Yeah. It says she was supposed to come this time, but she canceled, but. Okay.

06:23:59.260 I just feel bad because I had a whole bunch of notes that I want to address to you, but

06:24:02.760 just the conversation, we weren't able to get to it. So, um, if you're down to come back,

06:24:09.380 I'd love to have you so we can actually, uh, get to you. Um, I think there was one thing

06:24:16.280 I could maybe quickly address. You said that, um, so you have a twin sister. Both of you do

06:24:22.160 OF. Yes. Censored content. You make six figures a year. Yes. And you used the OF money to pay

06:24:28.820 for your Catholic grandmother's funeral. Oh yes. I, uh, I wasn't sure about the morals of

06:24:35.460 it. I mean, maybe you have something. Is she just out of frame in both of these? Okay.

06:24:40.100 Well, all right. Well, it's not immoral to use money to pay for your grandma's funeral,

06:24:44.460 but it's definitely immoral the way that the money was made. I mean, I used my only

06:24:47.120 family's money to pay for it. In the household for the funeral. Those are expensive. In a Catholic

06:24:51.740 church, I'd pay 25 grand to get my mom buried. Yeah. Well, there's, yeah. Okay. She's

06:24:57.020 still got it. There's other ways to come up with $25,000. Duh. Fast. Legally. It'll be good

06:25:02.560 if we can get you and your twin sister. I apologize that we didn't really get to address some of

06:25:06.740 my notes here for you, but just unfortunately we've, we've run out of time. So, um, so I'm

06:25:12.560 sorry about that, that we didn't really get to, uh, reel you in too much to the conversation.

06:25:17.520 But, um, if you come back, we'd be more than happy to, uh, to get that going. Uh, let me just

06:25:25.560 check here, see if we have any, uh, uh, hold up, hold up one sec. Okay. Uh, oh, wait. Did,

06:25:33.620 did something come in from Modest Hakama and it didn't trigger?

06:25:38.200 Act, she's not offended. I call her girl's honors. Oh, okay. That, okay. Okay. Um, all right. Um,

06:25:44.040 sorry guys, I'm losing my brain here. Uh, okay. Is there anything we're forgetting? Anything we're

06:25:51.400 forgetting? Any, any quick final thoughts from anybody before we wrap up? Live, laugh, love.

06:25:58.440 Just, yeah. Love. We should all be listening to each other. Even here. I'm not here to argue

06:26:03.260 with you guys. I've taken some of your points. You had some valid inflated points. So, you know,

06:26:11.280 I learned a few things. Wait, Nick, you got to be looking out for these mics moving, man. Cause

06:26:15.180 I can't be focused. So you got here, scoot your mic that way a little bit when you're speaking.

06:26:19.020 Okay. You had some invalid deflated points. Don't play with me. You know, I was making,

06:26:23.580 y'all know I'd be making points. Come on now. I enjoyed your points. Thank you. Thank you for

06:26:27.240 coming. Thank you. Love all these lovely ladies. Even if we agree to disagree. Oh, I think,

06:26:34.400 okay. Here's the last thing you, uh, you wanted to talk about sugar baby convo. Oh, me? Yeah.

06:26:40.180 I've been a sugar baby. Yeah. What, um, do you currently have a sugar daddy? No, I stopped that

06:26:46.420 22. So like six years ago after my mom died. Wait, hold on. Oh, it, somebody must've banged

06:26:58.000 into the camera. That's why she's out of frame. How did you not notice that Nick? She banged

06:27:02.700 into the camera recently or how? Yeah. But Nick, I can't be, I can't be multitasking. Like,

06:27:09.760 come on, you got it. I know, but like, no, it's whatever. Just leave it. But no, that's too

06:27:19.960 much. A little more, more, more, more. Okay. Um, all right. Okay. Um, you said you had a sugar

06:27:30.860 daddy. I'm just curious how much you had a couple. Yeah. How much were, how much were you

06:27:36.620 making? Um, even every arrangement's different. Uh, so like one guy, we'd like do like a pay

06:27:44.820 per meet or we do like a monthly thing and he'd give me at the first half at the beginning

06:27:49.340 of the month, whatever. So it was probably depending like for four hours just to go on a date with

06:27:55.180 me, it was $700. And, uh, to spend time with me afterwards, it's like $2,500 on top of the

06:28:02.400 $700. So usually per visit or per month, like we were like talking anywhere from like $700 to like

06:28:10.440 $5,000. But also like my mom was dying and I was trying to take care of three households. So.

06:28:18.140 And were, were you sleeping with these men? Uh, only two of them and they were each separately,

06:28:24.880 separate times. And one I was with, we had been together for a year and I had been dating him for

06:28:31.580 four months before anything got physical. So we were like, and he still paid me in that time. So

06:28:37.740 it was like a real connection. And then the other guy, we slept together once, but the sex was really

06:28:46.060 bad and wasn't worth the money. Okay. Um, that's great. I mean, I just like, even with a sugar daddy,

06:28:55.340 I want a connection. Like I wasn't just going to like sleep with anyone or do like, you know,

06:29:00.200 like it really feels like I know it was a mutually beneficial arrangement, but it generally like had

06:29:05.860 connections with these people, met their families, vacations. Like I even dropped one of my sugar

06:29:11.680 daddies for Yamani when he came out as a racist. Yeah. Wouldn't you guys get along though? Because

06:29:18.500 you're kind of racist against white people? I mean, I'm not, but yeah, she's black. He was racist

06:29:24.000 against black people. No, but if you object, if you object so strongly to racism, how, why is it

06:29:29.780 that you're racist against white people? I mean, I just don't think you can be racist against white

06:29:33.900 people. That's reverse. That's kind of racist. Potato patata. It's kind of racist to say that you

06:29:40.640 can't be racist against white people. Didn't we have that whole chat about how I'm reforming and like

06:29:44.840 trying to like, but the words that literally just came out of your mouth, uh, November 28th, 2023

06:29:51.340 at 11 30 PM is you can't be racist to white people. That is a racist statement, right? Wait,

06:29:58.080 what was, what was the statement that you can't, you can't be racist against white people. That

06:30:02.080 in and of itself is a racist statement. That's a racist statement. What do you mean? How we're like,

06:30:09.860 I hate black people. Do you think your mom or grandma would be like, you're racist, Yamani?

06:30:16.640 Absolutely not. I don't know. No, but you said it's, it's not just you. Yeah, but that doesn't

06:30:22.440 even make sense. That would be like saying, okay, you believe though, that if a black person said

06:30:28.240 X about white people, that still wouldn't be racist. Right. So then why even make the analogy

06:30:33.520 of asking her, do you think that your mom would be mad? Well, cause we're talking about my own race.

06:30:37.500 Yeah. That's actually a better analogy, but who cares? Even if we are talking about your own race,

06:30:42.780 because you don't believe anybody can be racist to him anyway. So like, it's not, I don't even

06:30:47.200 understand what the point of that was. Yeah. I'm confused too. Like what? He's just making his

06:30:51.780 own point. You're proving we're, I'm like agreeing. I don't, I don't think we're beefing here,

06:30:57.240 sister. Donated $200. Mira, come you on in my bed for fixed hash dollar and we can take my jet

06:31:04.920 anywhere you want. Bro, get the fuck off the show. Leave. Just get up. Good night. Leave. Get up.

06:31:14.760 Leave. Ah, this is, she's been one of the most disruptive guests we've ever had. She cannot

06:31:20.460 stay still. She's been obtuse the entire time. Like if you're going to come and snore, I've given

06:31:26.380 her so many passes like, that was my ride. Oops. Okay. I mean, look, it's just rude that she's

06:31:37.120 granted. We've gone late, but it's, she's been rude this entire time. I've gave it. I've given

06:31:42.060 her so many passes. She's getting up. She's being disruptive. So, uh, whatever. Um,

06:31:49.080 okay. I'm just going to end the show. Um, thank you guys for coming. Those of you who made it,

06:31:56.040 um, she could have just put on a, uh, just let, okay, whatever. Um, let's hear it for big Dick

06:32:04.820 Brian. There you go. I got the, thank you for the, I'm going to put that on my resume. Thank you.

06:32:14.100 Thank you for the endorsement. Um, much appreciated. I will say this though. I like that you kicked

06:32:20.200 her off like two minutes. No, I know. The show is perfect. I, yeah, I mean, uh,

06:32:26.940 I've never, no, it's not, I mean, I don't think I've had anybody that like,

06:32:39.040 have we had somebody that, I don't know. She was up and about moving around, like just being

06:32:43.540 disruptive, generally disruptive. So she probably has ADHD. I have ADHD and I sit here for,

06:32:49.420 um, I think it's just, she's not getting, she wasn't getting enough attention. So whatever.

06:32:55.060 Okay, guys. Um, thank you for tuning in. Thank you all. Uh, go to Twitch, twitch.tv slash whatever.

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06:33:04.000 Um, I got to wrap up the show. What's up, Nick? No, let's just, I'm going to wrap.

06:33:08.380 Follow me. Okay, guys, last call, hit the like button, please on your way out. Thank you for tuning

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06:33:32.620 very much. Thank you to the wonderful panel. This was, uh, quite a, uh, unique and interesting

06:33:38.540 show. You guys were wonderful. Uh, aside from the blaring, glaringly egregious racism and

06:33:47.600 sexism. Um, otherwise you guys were great. Um, any women who want to be on the show, DM

06:33:52.740 out, whatever we are going to be live on Thursday. Normally we don't do a Thursday show, but we

06:33:56.760 will, we will be live on Thursday, 5 PM Pacific. Um, got a little specialty show for you guys.

06:34:02.600 A little something special. Um, so be sure to tune in this Thursday. Madison, we'll be

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