MEGA BLACK PlLL？! Sarah Stock DRAMA! Former ＂VlRGlN＂ Guest EXPOSED! Mormon Girl Tried To Sell Her VlRGlNlTY？! ｜ Dating Talk 281
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9 hours and 28 minutes
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181.69136
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605
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we introduce ourselves and talk about who we are, where we grew up, and what we do in our day-to-day lives. We also talk about what it's like being Chinese-American in the United States.
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
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We're just going to jump right into the show. Sorry for the delay, guys.
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Hi, my name is Indy. I'm 20 years old, and I go to college in San Marcos.
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I'm a psychology major, and I'm also getting into the modeling industry.
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From Boston. So you were born there, grew up there?
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Okay, can you, like, fake a Boston accent for the show?
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I don't know. I don't think I have one. I don't think I have it in me.
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You'll not? What parts of Boston, typically, of the people who live there have the accent?
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Yeah, I think people that live more, like, in the city, I'd say.
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Older people. The younger people don't have it anymore.
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My name is Vicky Sun. I'm 18 years old, born in China, raised in San Francisco, and I currently go to school at UCSB.
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Somewhat, okay. And you moved to the United States at what age?
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Oh, age of five. Okay, gotcha. And do you have citizenship?
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Okay, and your parents, they live here too, or?
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Okay, do they have U.S. citizenship? Have they tried to go through the process?
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Hi, my name is Amelia. I'm 21. I'm from Los Angeles.
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I finished technical college to be a phlebotomist, but I'm currently working as a caregiver.
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I'm extending my education to become a medical assistant pretty soon, and I currently work, yeah, caregiver with disabled adults.
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Hi, my name is Lola Gold. I'm 23, and my main source of income is OnlyFans, but I studied as a veterinary nurse, and I'm a catwalk model.
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I'm Julia. I'm 27. I work in pediatric dentistry, no higher education for the time being, and I'm from Arizona.
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My name is Erica. I am 38, and I work in child care. I'm from Long Beach. I grew up in Long Beach. I live in Orange County currently.
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Hi. My name is Komal Preet. I'm 26. I'm an actress and a psychic, and I did some community college before lockdown, but then I had a lot of health problems follow me, so I had to take time off school, but I want to go back for game development and design.
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Oh, I'm from the San Fernando Valley in L.A. County, a valley girl.
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Yeah, I did a little bit of community college, but I haven't finished yet. I want to go back.
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Oh, computer science with a concentration in game development and design.
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I was born and raised in SoCal, Inland Empire area. I currently work in local government. I'm an executive assistant for a fire department.
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Yes. I have my master's in public administration.
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Wait, chair. Wait, chat. Who's chat? So this is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Chair 9 or chair 10? Chair 10 is next to me. Is it chair 9 or chair 10?
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Okay. Okay. Got it, guys. Wait, chair 9? So you?
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Master's in public administration and then bachelor's in political science.
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Okay. All right. I'm going to fix the mic here in just a moment. But first, we have a quick sponsorship announcement. So guys, the world knows the legend of Camelot. What history forgets is how close it came to never happening.
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So I'm going around the table once more. And I'm also going to get up and fix the audio situation, attempt to fix it. Can you tell us your relationship status, please?
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And then tell us how long you've been single and then your longest career.
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I think I've been single for a little over a year, maybe a year and a half. And my longest relationship was two years.
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I've been single for like half a year now. And my longest relationship was a year and six months.
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One sec. Can you talk into your mic a little bit?
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You know what? Hold on. I'm sorry. Why don't you do this? Who do you have for the Super Bowl? Just fucking, whatever. Starting with you. Who do you want to win for the Super Bowl?
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Why don't you tell us how you're a psychic? Tell us about that.
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All right. Can you speak into the microphone, please?
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So going back to the relationship status, if you can repeat it.
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I've been single for like a year and a half, and my longest relationship lasted for two years.
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Is that the one that ended a year and a half ago?
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I technically broke up with him, but it was kind of a mutual thing.
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I broke up with him, but like we both kind of agreed things weren't working.
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So I have been single for like a half a year now, and my longest relationship was a year and a half.
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Is that the one that ended a year and a half ago?
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The one that ended like six months ago, like half a year ago.
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Do you have a preference when it comes to the kind of men that you date?
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Speaking like from my experience, I've honestly pretty much been with like Chinese people.
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Not that I have a preference, but I think like there's just more in common and more
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similarity with Chinese people being like Chinese.
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I'm in a relationship and it's coming up on 11 months.
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I'm single and I've been single for nearly a year.
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Well, Bevo's girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, I guess.
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And how long have you been in the United States?
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What's the difference, would you say, between American men and British?
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I think you guys are more forward in a good way.
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I'm currently in a two and a half year relationship, and that's been my longest relationship.
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My longest relationship has been four months, and I'm in a complicated situation.
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How long have you been seeing Mr. It's Complicated?
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So, we are debating if our compatibility is there, and he told me that we would take a break.
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Not like a break, but like a talking break for a week, and that will redefine and redetermine our compatibility after this podcast.
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Whose decision was it to reassess after your appearance on the whatever podcast?
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You've been, and you've only known him for a month?
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No, but didn't you guys, you guys kind of revoked the Mormon title.
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I used to say that, and no one used to say it, and now everyone says Latter-day Saint,
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How long have you been LDS or Mormon or whatever?
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I took a long break for a while and explored different religions, but essentially my entire
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Yes, and I don't know anyone who does it, or openly admits it.
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You're a devout, LDS, Mormon, Christian, dating a, what kind of, is he orthodox?
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I don't know if he's orthodox or Hasidic or whatever.
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Like culturally Jewish, or like actually religiously Jewish?
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He grew up Jewish, like his mom is a cantor, but they didn't, they weren't super rigid or anything.
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And I'm one of the rare ones that's open to dating other men, as long as they love Jesus or, and he's open to Jesus.
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Well, I mean, Christianity, whether it's Islam, whether it's Judaism, the faiths are to some degree non-aligned.
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So it's a bit, and also, so are you going to convert to Judaism or is he going to convert to LDS?
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I see us having like an interfaith sort of environment.
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Well, it happens, but I mean, it's, it's just, if you guys both take your faith seriously, it just seems completely incompatible.
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Even, by the way, even other Christian, like the differences between Christian denominations, Orthodox with a Catholic or with a Protestant, it's, even then, even if you're both Christians, it's going to cause issues.
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I was talking to someone about that earlier, and that's part of the compatibility question that we have on hand.
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It seems like a pretty significant compatibility issue.
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Are there, but outside of religion, are there other compatibility issues?
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He's very difficult, kind of stubborn, and these are all fine things.
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I'm not sure if that's the standard in the religion.
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The one that ended a month ago, how long was that relationship?
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Gosh, I don't even know if I could call it a relationship.
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You've been single for six years, but anything in that time period, anything shorter term,
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a couple months here, six months, something like that?
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I just had a couple of narcissists love bomb me, but that doesn't really count for anything,
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Of the men, I will just really quick ask the whole panel.
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Well, I'll focus on you here for a moment then.
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It's like virtually impossible to get diagnosed with NPD because part...
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Like, the whole core thing of their disorder is that they don't admit that they're doing
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Well, I mean, I would imagine that if they went to a therapist, perhaps the rates of people
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who actually end up or undiagnosed have NPD, maybe their rates of going to a therapist
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are much lower, but, I mean, there's clearly a diagnostic metric for how you would diagnose
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But no, they don't have a diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder.
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Like, they purposely do this thing where they talk to you like 12, 13 hours a day.
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They purposely mirror all your little quirks and interests to make it seem like they're your
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They tell you they love you like really early on.
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They do these things to, like, rush the relationship, like, have you meet their family.
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Like, you know when your gut just knows, like, something is off.
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As a psychic, shouldn't you be able to have foreknowledge of this person's a narcissist?
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Like, I come from a culture where, like, your parents don't really talk to you about dating
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And so, like, I can just be naive, gullible, trusting, because, like, I just assume the
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And when you're into someone, it's easy to romanticize them, you know, like, overlook
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their flaws, because you just so badly want that connection.
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Uh, as a psychic, uh, I want you to predict what will be, what's gonna be on the, the dice.
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Wouldn't that be fucking insane if it was actually?
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All right, well, uh, so what, what are your, obviously it doesn't work very well with magic
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eight balls, but in terms of your psychic abilities, um, can you, what, what would be
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an application that we could explore right here, right now?
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That makes me think you have, like, precognition, or you can see the future, kind of.
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I mean, haven't you ever had that happen to you, where your gut was trying to tell you
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That's, uh, I mean, that, that's kind of just evolutionary.
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Like, there is something, what, what is the gift of fear?
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But, um, yeah, sometimes, look, sometimes your gut is wrong, but sometimes it's correct.
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I mean, you're a man, you don't believe in this stuff.
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Well, what would prevent a woman from being rational and coming to the determination that
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Psychic, psychic tree, psychic tree, psychic, whatever, is, uh, snake oil and bullshit.
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Like, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Yeah, but why, why should we dismiss women who are skeptical of this?
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I don't know, I'm saying anyone can be skeptical.
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I just know, like, stereotypically men just aren't into this stuff.
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Well, I think it actually is probably true that, for example, with astrology, this, not
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all women believe in astrology, but it seems like more women have an interest in it than
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Like, I don't know, it's like, yeah, no, you want to, well, give us one prediction.
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Somebody going to, one of the women here going to enter into a lesbian relationship with one
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I'm actually detecting a little lesbian energy from this side of the table, right in that
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I think you're telling us your fantasies out loud.
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Um, I'm engaged and I've been in this relationship for 15 years.
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That's a long, I want, I wonder what the women here think.
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That's a long time to be, not if you're saving up for the right day.
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Well, to be fair, you guys also met young, right?
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I was in high school when, with the six, seven year, like from high school to college.
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So high school, I was with someone for like six, seven years.
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And then, you know, um, another two year relationship.
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No, he made me feel so bad for even thinking about alimony.
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Is that the one that ended five to six months ago?
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Uh, it was around two years, but it was on and off.
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Um, it was probably split or leaning towards me.
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You would overwhelmingly be the one to break things off?
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Not overwhelmingly, but like it, it was kind of even, but more so probably me if I had
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So if it was seven times off, you ended things four times, he ended things three times.
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Um, who would try to get back with each, with the person?
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And how long were the breaks typically during the off period?
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A couple of weeks, a couple of days, a couple of months?
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Sometimes they were like three months and sometimes it would be like a week.
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Who here at the panel has a experience with on again, off again relationship show fans?
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Um, why would, what would be the primary reason for the breakups?
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Was it different every time or would there be a repeating issue?
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I did catch him cheating, cheating a couple of times.
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Um, it was mainly like I had, had a feeling, some type of intuition.
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And then I asked to see his phone and I saw something on it.
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Um, but yeah, it was like messaging girls and saying things that you shouldn't be saying
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When we were in a relationship, I, I had never.
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So I was trying to actually start a relationship elsewhere and then he'd come back and yeah.
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Um, I think I would argue, I, like my biggest regret was just not leaving and wanting to
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I think I should have just stuck to my morals and just left and that would have been better
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Uh, anybody else here, religious, you know, religious, what, what do you, what do you?
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I mean, Catholic, Christian is, I guess what you could classify it as, but it's not to the
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Like, I just don't agree with a lot of what the, the propaganda the churches have implemented,
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like on top of things that are to start, like that are not in the Bible.
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I think that there's a lot of top topics and things that have been added in over time that
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are excess, that are not, that are like deterring, deterring away from the main point,
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which is your relationship between you and God.
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If I do, like I said, last time I was here, I'll go to Catholic Mass, but I don't agree
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I don't like a lot of the politics that these churches do.
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Because there's different politics in various churches and denominations.
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So, I think that, well, I think that certain churches, like the one that I attend in Santa
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Monica, support abortion, which I think is in direct contradiction to what I believe and
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So, for that, many other Catholic churches do as well, as well as Presbyterian, all denominations
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Wait, the Catholic church you go to is pro-abortion?
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So, this is, if I have to go, I'll go with my grandma because she enjoys it, and that's
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Well, yeah, I mean, my understanding of Catholicism...
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It's a lot different than that, and so is mine.
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So, that's why I'm saying I don't fully claim the label, because that's just one example,
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as well as having pride flags outside of churches.
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Well, I think the mainstream Catholic position on abortion is, they're against abortion.
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True, but I haven't been able to find a church yet that supports, that's just baseline Christianity,
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you and God, not all this other BS put in place.
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Doesn't the, look, I don't really know all too much about Catholicism, but, well, you're
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Doesn't the, can't the, the higher up you go, I don't know, like, what it would be called,
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the archdiocese, or even going up to the Vatican, the Pope, whatever, couldn't the Pope, like,
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revoke your ability to be a Catholic church, or kick you?
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Well, there's excommunication, but there's, like, very strict procedures and protocol behind
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Um, in this case, I'm not really sure, I've never heard of any, like, Catholic priest or
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anyone who's Catholic that preaches, like, talking in support of abortion.
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Um, you could probably tell the, the diocese, um, I'm not sure which one you would belong
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to if you're in Santa Monica, uh, but you could tell the diocese because they're not supposed
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to be sharing anything that's against doctrine.
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You can have different, like, interpretations of certain things, but if it goes against
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church doctrine, then that shouldn't be what they're doing.
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Oh, um, I was just going to say that I resonate the most with the Buddhist teachings, but I'm
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I just, I believe in good karma and potentially reincarnation if you're well behaved.
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Everybody's got to have some kind of comfort, I feel, in this crazy world.
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Mary, can you Google, uh, Super Bowl score at the moment, please?
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Uh, so it looks like they're, it's, it's ending actually pretty soon, it looks like.
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They're in the third quarter, Seattle Seahawks leading nine to zero.
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Um, but, uh, yeah, anyways, I don't know what I am going to do.
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One of the topics we have that might take a bit of time is maybe some of you are aware,
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There's a recent massive controversy kind of on, on X on Twitter with this conservative
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traditional pundit who we've actually had on the show before named Sarah Stock.
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Now, because it's, uh, probably some of our audience is currently split watching the Super
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I'm probably going to wait to address all the Sarah Stock drama.
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I think the Super Bowl ends around 6.30, so maybe 7, 7.30 we'll get into the Sarah Stock
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But just for the table, for those watching, as a, I guess, a teaser for what we're going
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to get into, Sarah Stock, this girl who came on the show, uh, she was Catholic, Christian,
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conservative, uh, claimed on the show that she was on like two years ago, that she was
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waiting for marriage, that she was a virgin, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Turns out, and she got married, she got married a couple months ago.
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I don't think they were married at the time, but they were together.
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She was cheating on her, I guess, boyfriend, fiance, whatever it is, cheating on her boyfriend
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and then, uh, with her boss and he was married or is married with children and they're both
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She lied to her now husband that she was a virgin and she was waiting for marriage.
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She was making her husband, excuse me, well, her now husband, soon to be ex-husband, wait
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Meanwhile, she's getting cracked by her married with children boss.
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We're going to dive, we're going to dive massively into that, but I'm going to wait a little bit
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as some more viewers trickle in once the Super Bowl ends.
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So, um, and I'm sure you guys will have opinions and thoughts on all of that.
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What we're going to do now is I'm going to get into some of the pre-show notes that you
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So, uh, that's one of the no-shows, so we can do whatever, nope.
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Oh, actually, before we do that, I wanted to do a follow-up question on, uh, the people
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here who are single, which is most of you, um, what does it actually mean to be single
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You've been single for a year and a half, single for a year and a half, single for a
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year, uh, complicated for like a month or whatever.
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You've been single for six years, uh, single for five to six months for you.
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Uh, so I guess perhaps some clarifying questions.
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Is there a guy in the picture currently in any capacity?
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I actually wrote out, I need to be more detailed on this.
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Cause for example, somebody could say they're single and be like sleeping with one, two,
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You're technically not in a relationship, right?
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So you're single, but you're getting smashed out by, you know, one, two, three people.
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Men can claim to be single, but they're fucking, you know, whatever three chicks.
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Here's a question that you have to ask in 2026.
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You can't just ask somebody, whether you're a man or a woman, are you single anymore?
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You can't rely on that to give you an answer that you can really draw any information from.
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Because I think that, how do we say, uh, people are not going to be particularly forthcoming
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about, uh, they can be, but they're not going to be super forthcoming.
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We can't let loopholes as a man or a woman, you don't want loopholes.
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Are you presently engaged in, or have you at any time during the relevant period of time
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we've been talking, been engaged in any form of communication, association, interaction,
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or relationship with any other male individual or individuals, whether romantic, intimate,
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sexual, or otherwise, be it casually or seriously.
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Including, but not limited to, dating, meetings, sneaky links, hangouts, chilling, kicking it,
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ongoing contact, or involvement of any kind, whether conducted in person or, or through
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electronic means, including text messages, direct messages, dating applications, social
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media platforms, or any other form of digital or written communication.
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Are you currently, or have you, at any time during the applicable or relevant period of
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time, directly or indirectly engaged in, participated in, maintained, initiated, responded to, or
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otherwise been involved in any communication, contact, association, interaction, arrangement,
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understanding, or relationship of any nature whatsoever with any other male individual or
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individuals, whether such involvement is characterized as romantic, intimate, sexual, emotional, or
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otherwise, including but not limited to, dating, courtship, companionship, repeated or isolated
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encounters, continued correspondence, or ongoing or intermittent contact.
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Regardless of frequency, duration, or intent, such inquiry expressly includes, without limitation,
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any form of in-person interaction or any form of communication conducted through electronic,
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digital, written, or recorded means, including but not limited to, telephone calls, text messages,
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multimedia messages, emails, direct messages, private messages, smoke signals, or exchanges
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on or through dating applications, social networking platforms, messaging services, forms, websites,
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or any other present or future communication medium, whether public or private, initiated by you or by
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other, the other party, and whether reciprocated, acknowledged, or unacknowledged.
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Well, you started it by saying during the applicable or relevant time, which is up to interpretation,
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and the other person could use that to their advantage, and, yeah, it's just kind of relative.
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Well, I suppose it depends when you're asking this question, but, yeah.
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So, is there a guy in the picture under this framework?
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And have you been hooking up for that period of time, or?
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And, um, is, are there other guys in the picture besides him?
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Would you consider, um, someone who is, like, in a talking stage or, you know, sleeping with
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someone else, would you consider that person to be single?
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You know, in a talking stage or sleeping with someone without a relationship label.
00:46:07.320
They're not in a relationship, but I don't think they're single.
00:46:18.340
I think if another, I think if another man's penis has been inside you within the past fortnight,
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Handjob, not that a guy should ever want a handjob.
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Yeah, like a date or just like even like texting, you know, talking on the phone.
00:46:55.220
Then you could probably claim single if you've been on a date with a guy.
00:47:14.080
I think the person just doesn't like you that much.
00:47:19.080
What about that like beginning talking stage before you're, when you're getting to know
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Before you're like ready to fully commit to a relationship?
00:47:25.560
Right, but that's, I wouldn't say that's a situationship, right?
00:47:28.600
Because this isn't a situationship where you do like relationship type things, but with
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no label and you guys don't even talk about it.
00:47:34.260
But I challenge that to say like some people maybe aren't in the right headspace for a relationship
00:47:53.260
Like I think if you're talking to someone and they're also talking to you, but they don't
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want to date you, but they claim to like you, like they're just not that into you.
00:48:07.620
You got, is there a guy in the picture in any capacity whatsoever?
00:48:12.420
Well, it was kind of similar to what she mentioned earlier.
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Like I don't have any like situationships or anything going on.
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And I'm just single and, I don't know, focusing on myself, doing the things I like.
00:48:24.600
When's the last time you were, uh, you hung out with a guy where you, you at least liked
00:48:33.380
Well, actually like a month ago, like it was kind of like a, like a friends with, like we
00:48:41.320
It was kind of like we were friends with benefits, but, um, yeah.
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And how long were you guys, uh, seeing each other friends with benefits, I guess?
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It was like, yeah, he, um, this wasn't ready for a relationship and I respect that, but
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that's like adding onto what she said, like they probably just didn't like me as much.
00:49:16.860
Did he tell you he was exclusive to you or whatever?
00:49:20.560
And I mean, through observation, you can kind of just tell if someone were to be seeing
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other people and it just didn't seem like that.
00:49:40.080
There's, I think there's some things that like I draw the line with between like, um,
00:49:46.040
someone I'm just seeing or someone that I'm dating.
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Like I'm not gonna, um, we also didn't crack, like I'm not gonna, um, do that with someone
00:49:53.580
You were friends with benefits, but you didn't have sex?
00:50:03.780
Like, I don't, I'm not just gonna, well, going to UCSB, there's a lot of parties, you
00:50:08.900
I'm not just gonna find a random guy at a party and take them home and then crack them
00:50:12.720
Um, I get, I want to take the time to like get to know someone.
00:50:16.040
So during that period, it was kind of like, kind of like working up to it, but we just
00:50:23.460
Um, so wait, you're friends with benefits, but you didn't have sex, but there was like
00:50:34.240
Like, I don't think like you have to, okay, well, if you have to have sex to be friends
00:50:39.020
with benefits, then I guess you could say we weren't friends with benefits, but it was
00:50:47.040
I don't know if they're watching right now, so I'm not trying to say too much.
00:50:49.300
I guess my confusion is if you're friends with benefits, like he didn't want more.
00:50:59.120
Well, he was kind of figuring out if he wanted more during the time that we were talking.
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And then like when he realized it wasn't, um, it happened very abruptly.
00:51:08.600
Cause up until that point, like we were like sleeping together and like, we were like hang
00:51:14.040
Wait, when you say sleeping together, not like having sex, but like we, there was like
00:51:20.640
But I'm sure the girls can know like what I'm talking about.
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Like third base is like oral, second base is like petting and mess like hand stuff.
00:51:34.020
First base is like making out, fourth base is like sex.
00:51:37.720
But yeah, I'm not trying to, I don't want to say that out loud, but.
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Um, I, the sex that I have with guys is on camera and off camera.
00:52:05.780
So the only men that I have on my platform with me are guys that I have dated before.
00:52:11.160
So yeah, I, I'm known as hard to get in the industry because I don't actually do commercial
00:52:25.380
So during this period of time when you were seeing this guy, you were friends with benefits,
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Partial benefit, half benefits, quarter, three fourths benefits.
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Uh, you were, would you have described yourself as single?
00:52:45.200
No, like I didn't, I wasn't open to talking, talking to anyone else.
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And if someone asked me if I was like seeing anyone, I'd be like, oh, like I'm talking to
00:52:54.760
So yeah, I wouldn't categorize myself as single during that period.
00:52:58.860
Uh, if a guy, say a guy who you thought was attractive.
00:53:03.320
I've walked up to you and hit on you or whatever, uh, would you turn him down?
00:53:20.580
So you said, okay, you're, you were, you, the term you used was crack, cracked, cracked.
00:53:30.420
Uh, and it was three months, three months, no crack.
00:53:37.660
Well, I guess it's, well, when do you crack the first night?
00:53:41.880
Like, I think it depends on like who, where your boundaries are, you know?
00:53:51.220
By the way, just to be clear, let me, let me start first.
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Uh, I've cracked first, first day, first couple hours.
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So I'm not going to judge you if you've cracked quickly.
00:54:22.460
You could have also been cracked, depending on what she was using with you, whether she
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What, have you, have you had carnal knowledge before?
00:54:40.200
That I actually dated for both over a year after.
00:54:47.540
I'd say like, um, four months into the relationship.
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Around the same time, like four or five months.
00:55:03.280
This guy really, he was at the, he was at the end of the finish line.
00:55:06.780
This, this most recent friends with benefits, he just had one more month to go and you guys
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Like I, I make my boyfriends wait a little bit too.
00:55:18.060
Like I will not just crack them just because we're dating.
00:55:20.860
Like I met like four to four months into the relationship, but with this recent one, we
00:55:26.840
With the relationships, you're saying there was a period of time before you considered it
00:55:30.920
the start of the relationship when you were dating.
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Well, you said you make your boyfriends wait too.
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And you said it was four months, four months about.
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But are you saying that, okay, there's a period of time before you're officially boyfriend,
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So like, okay, let's say you meet the person and then like a month in, you're like, we're
00:56:01.780
So would it be five months until the crack, cracked, cracking?
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Um, well, I don't, I don't really consider like the time I met them before.
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How long did you like hang out with them before they were your boyfriend?
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So you got to add two, three months to the cracking time period.
00:56:45.600
I think everyone has different personal preferences.
00:56:47.780
You can meet one person and be comfortable, like having sex with them within like the
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first week of meeting them and you can meet another person and then like need a lot more
00:57:09.560
Um, how long do you, do you typically wait before the crackening happens?
00:57:13.680
Um, typically I would say until I feel comfortable enough with that person that like, you know,
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Like now, can that happen within like three hours?
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I mean, I wouldn't, I'm not going to like put a time limit on it and say like typically
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a couple months, but like, have you ever cracked quick?
00:57:52.000
How long do you typically wait before having carnal knowledge with?
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Obviously it's going to differ a little bit from guy to guy, but like your recent boyfriend,
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uh, your, your current boyfriend, how long until he.
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I also don't think there's anything wrong with having casual sex.
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I think it's all personal preference and it's all what you are comfortable with and what
00:58:37.980
I think, yeah, I think that there's no, like, you don't have to wait a certain amount of time.
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It's whatever you feel like your boundaries, your morals, whatever you feel is right.
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I think if you sleep with somebody, whether you're a man or a woman, there should be some
00:59:09.760
That should be, even if you guys sleep together quick, that should hopefully be the intention
00:59:21.160
That's not me personally, but like some people out there, like they're comfortable with that
00:59:31.560
So all of the filming I have with guys on my platform is all intimate because I don't
00:59:38.200
want to have sex with a guy because guys don't know where to touch us in the right places
00:59:48.020
I mean, yeah, and I have, of course, but like with a woman, I think sex is more fun, casual
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because nine times out of ten, we all know what we like and you know what you're doing.
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Even if you think you don't, you do, you're, yeah.
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Casual sex is not for everyone, but I'm not one to judge other people for what they do
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I personally like my, when talking about myself, like that's not for me, but I would never judge
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another woman for having just like a casual sexual relationship with someone else.
01:00:30.820
Anyone, you know, fuck boys is like a, it's like a term, right?
01:00:34.820
But like, then we could say that girls do the same thing.
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Like there's a lot of people that like sleep around like that, like fuck boys.
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So I would say there's like a double standard there.
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Like, you know, um, but like, yeah, no judgment.
01:00:53.800
Well, there's a double standard because it's objectively harder for men to get laid.
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They kind of have to have some sort of like charisma.
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They have to have some sort of game where it's like for women.
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It's like, it's like, it's always available for us, you know?
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That takes a lot of courage, by the way, to admit that.
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Any other women have an Audi, as they're called?
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I've heard from some women that they get a little bit of, you know, some shame for it.
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You'd think with my platform, I would, as well, but I really don't.
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A guy told me, who wants a sandwich without any meat in it?
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I'm like, yeah, you know what grinds my gears, though?
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Like, they claim they have an Audi, but they don't.
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It's kind of similar, like it's a body dysmorphia or something.
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And, like, you know how somebody who might be, like, anorexic or bulimic and they think
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Like, these girls think they have an Audi, but they don't.
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I'm embarrassed to ask this, but what is big labia?
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And then underneath, you have your lips where your...
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I don't know what they're trying to do with C, but...
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Some people say, oh, if you have an Audi, you've been ran through.
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You could have fucked 10,000 dudes and have a...
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But, yeah, there's some labia fishing going on.
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Look, it's not a deal-breaker for Girl Hasn't Any, but I would say this.
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Like, lips that grip, if you want to get detailed.
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He said that labioplasty should be government-issued, and I ratioed them.
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And when I say Caucasian, you can be, like, black and still be my Caucasian.
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No, I would say I'm neutral when it comes to...
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But it's just about your stance on the issues, I think, is what he's asking.
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Even if you can't vote, you probably might lean politically.
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I understand the concept, but I guess it's not really my place to say.
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No, but should we pay reparations to African Americans?
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Should we pay reparations to African Americans in this country?
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I feel like we should acknowledge that they were at a very big disadvantage for most of
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I mean, I know some people believe in it, but I feel like no one really says that.
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Like, it's not like people are going up to white people saying, you owe me money.
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I have, like, I don't understand what you're saying.
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In the United States, there was slavery of black people, of African Americans.
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And this, you know, and there were obviously other...
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Even better, this is why those of you who do have cash on you ought to go get some money.
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But, obviously, there were other grievances that African Americans experienced throughout, even after slavery ended.
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And so, for this reason, there is an argument that African Americans should be paid some sort of amount of money to make up for...
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There was, like, a promise that black people would get a hundred acres and a mule back, like, you know, when slavery was abolished or whatever.
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It looks like you bought something on the merch store.
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You could have done the message, but thank you for...
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It looks like you maybe bought two shirts or a shirt and a hoodie.
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Every time I say really, you fill in the blank for me, okay?
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By the way, you're the only one here who has OnlyFans.
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It was supposed to be for nude yoga and feet stuff.
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No, I tried and I didn't like how I looked and never got posted.
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For example, let's say you've never even smoked a cigarette or never even tried weed once.
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When it comes to drug use, I think there's like an escalation.
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So with drug use, it would be, well, maybe they smoke weed.
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And then you usually don't jump right into like mainlining heroin as your first drug.
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Like usually you smoke some cigarettes, you smoke some weed, you did cocaine, you fucking whatever.
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And then, not to say logically, it's of course possible.
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Like, yes, you never smoked weed once, but you went straight to mainline like doing fucking fentanyl or some shit, right?
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Practically, it's pretty close to being very unlikely.
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So it's like, for me, I think, you don't go from chaste, Mormon, virgin, waiting until marriage.
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I feel like there's a little bit like, okay, there's some degree of promiscuity.
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Not to say, again, it's logically possible a woman could be a virgin on OnlyFans.
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But it seems like the escalation ladder from virgin, chaste, religious, LDS, Mormon, Christian, I don't know.
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This was when I was practicing different religions and I was questioning things.
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When you say you're a virgin, you're not like born again.
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Who's down to, so okay, really quick, I'll answer your question in the moment.
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I feel like as women, y'all get, men will just buy you shit.
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Sometimes a guy, you don't even have to be a sex worker.
01:18:30.420
Some simp guy would just be like, here's a hundred bucks just because you have a vagina.
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Well, he's doing that because he wants to get laid by that girl.
01:18:37.400
Well, sometimes there's like pay pigs that have no expectation of ever sleeping with you.
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But they kind of like just hit me up on social media and with absolutely no expectation,
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they'll say something, be like, oh, let me send you money.
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And then you wouldn't really have, I've never done anything with these guys, never sent them anything.
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I don't even talk to them, but they'll just like random times of the day.
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I'd say like total, not that much because at one point it messed with like my mental health
01:19:25.100
Even though I wasn't doing anything, I didn't like the fact that like I was receiving money
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from random people because I didn't like really need it.
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But within the course of like two months, I'd say probably like a few hundred dollars total.
01:19:41.180
And how many about, how many different guys would you say sent you?
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Yeah, like how many, like three, four, five guys more or less?
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They reached out to me on TikTok because I would post like videos off the, yeah.
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No, I just post like lip sync, like face videos.
01:20:07.700
Um, and I respect for anyone who does like, that's not my business, but yeah, they just
01:20:19.740
I was even in contact with men like that in general.
01:20:25.420
Did you have to send them pictures like of your feet or anything like that?
01:20:29.620
I think like, it was just them knowing that like, they were able to like provide for
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Well, if they ask, I'd respond, but I never initiated anything.
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Dry responses and then like, they'll send money.
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It wasn't, it was purely transactional, I'd say.
01:20:53.800
So as a, as a little bucket list thing so that you as women, many of you have, maybe
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you didn't take them up on the offer, even if you don't do OnlyFans, but you, you've maybe
01:21:32.360
You going to, because women, y'all have the experience of men simping for you.
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Would you feel better if I went up and gave you a 10?
01:22:20.540
You know, I'm not going to be wish on the fence.
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Should Mary get your purse for you so you don't even have to get up?
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Girl, there's people in the chat giving him money now.
01:23:12.640
But I asked you if it would make you feel better, and you did not say yes or no.
01:23:41.680
Generally, I would say, I think, as a general idea, I think porn is bad for society.
01:23:49.500
I think it's bad for the individual people who do it.
01:23:53.080
I think it's moving us towards, I guess, a greater, more degenerate society.
01:24:02.260
Now, I want to balance this with, I think, somebody who, like a man, for example, or even
01:24:08.320
a woman who consumes porn in moderation, I think some of the harms of porn consumption are overstated.
01:24:16.000
Now, if you're addicted to porn and it has massive impacts on your relationship, I think
01:24:20.520
My personal view, though, I don't believe if I'm in a relationship with a girl and it's
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not, like, long distance and we're seeing each other, you know, regularly.
01:24:33.580
Don't think you should be masturbating in a relationship.
01:24:37.460
If you're not in a relationship, then whatever.
01:24:41.400
You want to watch something, 30 minutes, an hour, whatever.
01:24:45.200
Do you believe that for all relationships or just are you talking about your personal
01:24:49.760
Well, I mean, I'm talking for my personal relationships, but I would be prepared to
01:24:53.040
prescriptively say I think porn consumption in men or women is going to be harmful for
01:25:00.840
Now, even outside of a relationship, I would say porn consumption will be generally harmful
01:25:05.520
to you as an individual also and will have downstream impacts on future relationships.
01:25:12.040
For example, I mean, and it can manifest in different ways.
01:25:14.260
It could either be this person, whether man or woman, has an expectation of either how
01:25:18.620
sex should be or how attractive somebody should be, and this would go both ways.
01:25:26.000
Women who consume porn, typically, they're watching really degenerate stuff.
01:25:31.620
They're watching really rough, violent sex, and it's like I think the average guy, you
01:25:38.300
women have basically bullied men into this rough sex thing, which I think is a bit peculiar.
01:25:42.240
Look, if people have kinks, if you want to be choked a little bit, you want your hair
01:25:45.400
pulled, you want to be spanked, whatever, that's fine.
01:25:48.440
But some of this shit, I feel like it can be a little intense.
01:25:55.040
And you don't think men are watching the extreme stuff?
01:25:57.280
Oh, men are definitely watching extreme stuff too.
01:25:59.300
But women watch, in terms of what women consume, it's like a lot of it's like really rough stuff
01:26:07.280
and like having the expectation in a relationship that a guy does this.
01:26:11.600
Look, I mean, like people have their fetishes, kinks.
01:26:13.920
There's a degree of, look, if it's consensual, it's fine.
01:26:18.300
There's some stuff that I think is probably okay.
01:26:23.140
But, um, so there's that component, but, uh, okay.
01:26:28.100
Now, as far as OnlyFans goes, um, OnlyFans is another layer though.
01:26:34.120
So all that stuff I just referenced about, about the nudity, I personally, like I, the
01:26:44.400
Like I can, I can sit here and say, it's generally probably bad for society.
01:26:54.460
That's kind of when it, with my OnlyFans though.
01:26:56.860
What do you mean by it's not that big of a deal?
01:26:57.700
Like watching is not that big of a deal or participating in it?
01:26:59.720
Like some girl taking a fucking picture of her poster or whatever.
01:27:04.940
So my, cause my criticism of OnlyFans goes beyond the nude content production component.
01:27:12.340
Because I think some people can make compelling arguments for the acceptability of nude content.
01:27:21.440
You're not going to be able to, it's going to be very difficult to, for example, pass laws
01:27:30.220
So from a politically tenable position, I think probably most likely pornography is here
01:27:37.340
I don't think there's really going to be an avenue political.
01:27:41.680
There's all kinds of political things that we can do to potentially ban it.
01:27:44.480
But I think it's unlikely that it will be challenged from the political angle.
01:27:53.000
But with OnlyFans, I think the bigger thing is, which I think is completely indefensible,
01:28:04.080
If you're a porn producer, like, okay, you know, you're making nude content, whatever,
01:28:11.700
But the scam component is, and there's a couple different components.
01:28:19.700
By the way, a lot of women who do OnlyFans, even if they do have a management company.
01:28:26.220
Even if they do have a management company, even if they do have a typer or chatter, they're
01:28:32.040
Uh, so the scam component of OnlyFans is twofold.
01:28:36.900
One is if you make a representation on your OnlyFans platform, you're talking to me, the
01:28:44.460
I have a friend that's responding to all my messages right now.
01:28:46.820
And the only things that are being sold are just like pre-made videos.
01:28:50.760
So my position would be that's some degree of fraudulent activity.
01:28:54.420
Oh no, she's saying, she's saying Lola is on whatever.
01:28:58.500
And if you, so it wouldn't be fraudulent if you disclose to the person, uh, the person
01:29:03.280
you're communicating with who is paying money to engage in messaging, you're not talking
01:29:09.420
You're talking to this, uh, person who makes $5 a day in the Philippines.
01:29:15.580
Now, now they're probably using AI, I would imagine to do all the typing and chatting.
01:29:20.240
But so these OnlyFans girls who many of them, some of them, especially the high earning
01:29:27.040
I literally voice note every day because people, there's so many girls that are out
01:29:32.380
And then like 95% of the other work is some dude in fucking the Philippines making $5 an
01:29:46.540
So it's the way women on OnlyFans make money is they, through messaging.
01:29:53.420
And so there's, there's this component and messaging sometimes with dozens, hundreds,
01:30:00.180
One person typically, especially a woman who's not.
01:30:04.000
Then, so on my free page, I had like 19,000 fans and it was genuinely just, you buy something
01:30:10.300
from the wall and I'm probably not going to talk to you because how the hell am I supposed
01:30:13.820
Well, even if you don't do it, this is still true for most OnlyFans girls.
01:30:21.180
And they're fucking online 24 seven constantly always responding to messages.
01:30:24.880
Or they'll buy a video and it's meant to be like nude and then it's going to be them
01:30:28.720
like covering up their parts with like little pieces of tape and stuff.
01:30:35.700
I think, or there's some girls, like recently I've heard there's some girls that are doing
01:30:39.300
OnlyFans that don't even enjoy sex and they're not doing it for that reason.
01:30:43.040
I'm like, girl, if you don't enjoy your job, get a new job.
01:30:59.200
But don't you feel some amount of shame that you're doing this?
01:31:07.200
So let's, let's just finish off the point here.
01:31:11.400
There's the type of chatter fraud where you're basically, look, if, if you're a company and
01:31:17.320
you could say like, let's say Justin Bieber offered up a service for his fans, not a sexual
01:31:22.680
thing, but not on OnlyFans, but like, Hey, if you pay $50 a month or you pay for individual
01:31:29.540
messages, you can actually be corresponding with me.
01:31:35.860
And it turns out that it actually wasn't Justin Bieber who was actually talking to his fans.
01:31:40.960
It was an assistant, uh, maybe somebody overseas.
01:31:48.120
This would open Justin Bieber up to a lawsuit for fraud.
01:31:51.540
So that's one of the components of fraud with OnlyFans.
01:31:54.020
The other component of fraud is the, this is even a deeper level, which I think is more
01:31:58.140
insidious is the women are, um, a lot of women on OnlyFans claim to be single, but they're
01:32:06.800
So they claim to be single and they do what I consider a romance scam.
01:32:11.300
They sell a girlfriend experience and they, they, through the parasocial relationship that
01:32:17.220
they develop with their, um, typically male clientele, they're going to bait these
01:32:23.960
men into thinking that they are developing and building a relationship, a romantic relationship
01:32:31.720
with the man in an effort to siphon money from them without any actual genuine intention of
01:32:41.960
But with, but they lead these men on as if, yes, I will, you know, we're pursuing it and
01:32:48.820
they will do as much as possible to delay, delay, delay meeting.
01:32:52.480
And then they try to siphon as much money as possible under the guise of, oh, we're dating,
01:33:00.240
Uh, so that's another layer, I think worse below the one that I just mentioned as to
01:33:11.700
And then you, you can imagine though, um, like imagine if it was the reverse, uh, imagine
01:33:17.880
if, you know, there, if, if you're a man and you induce a woman into a romance scam and siphon
01:33:25.380
money from them, you get a Netflix special made about you.
01:33:30.000
Uh, so it's interesting that we have wholesale massive scale of romance scam happening on
01:33:36.780
OnlyFans, typically in the direction of men, uh, that basically just is accepted.
01:33:44.700
Uh, I take a bit, perhaps a bit more empathetic approach to these men.
01:33:48.640
I think most of these men tend to be incredibly lonely and incredibly desperate to some degree.
01:33:54.740
Buyer beware, but they're being misled by these women.
01:33:57.280
I'm a companion to a lot of guys that I talk to and I genuinely love chatting to them.
01:34:14.920
But that's like, you know, it's not something that I'm forcing anybody to do.
01:34:20.600
They come to me and I provide a service that maybe if they're like they're widowed or they're,
01:34:30.120
Do you know any, are you aware of this phenomenon?
01:34:32.880
Do you know any OnlyFans girls who claim they're single, but they're actually married,
01:34:36.520
but they don't say that publicly or they actually have a long-term boyfriend?
01:34:43.900
I don't think these guys are the victims you're making them out to be.
01:34:46.800
I think like they need to live in reality at some point.
01:34:50.500
They willingly sent their money to like someone on the internet.
01:34:56.100
Well, I mean, so I'm not taking full accountability away from them.
01:35:01.660
So I think as a man, I mean, with any sort of purchase, there's a degree of buyer beware.
01:35:07.720
Uh, although that actually isn't totally the legal standard, like corporations have a duty
01:35:19.100
Um, so yes, uh, yeah, they should have some diligence when it comes to this, but I think
01:35:27.060
you have to understand a lot of men can be very naive, especially men with minimal or no
01:35:37.220
But an OnlyFans model, like that's like thinking the stripper actually likes you.
01:35:41.400
That's like thinking the waitress actually flirted with you.
01:35:46.900
That's the game that the OnlyFans girls are playing.
01:35:49.700
And like, do you think that that is the biggest issue with OnlyFans?
01:35:55.400
When don't you think the first level, the worst level is OnlyFans just existing in the
01:36:00.040
first place because that's misleading men to seek validation and security in something
01:36:10.520
I think that the existence of porn in general leads men to believe that they're going to
01:36:14.260
find a sense of security in a woman who is getting monetary gain out of it when they're
01:36:18.740
getting nothing but getting deeper into the fucking rabbit hole that's pushed onto them
01:36:22.540
by the over-sexualization of everything in society.
01:36:26.000
Well, but so my, cause OnlyFans is unique in the sense that it's adult content, uh, adult
01:36:33.380
content packaged with the parasocial actual, like for example, before OnlyFans, if a girl
01:36:41.120
was a porn star, like the consumer did not have access to them on a parasocial level.
01:36:48.300
So absent OnlyFans, there was porn before OnlyFans.
01:36:55.720
But you're saying the, the, the nude content is the issue.
01:36:59.700
It is an, it is an issue, but the unique issue I have with OnlyFans is the, uh, the frauding,
01:37:07.240
the frauding, the typer, the chatter, the messaging, but it's not actually them.
01:37:11.860
But then the girlfriend experience where they're siphoning money from men who, uh, these women
01:37:18.020
are misleading them to believe that a relationship is being developed when there actually isn't a
01:37:22.820
genuine intention on the woman's part to actually see through that relationship.
01:37:28.000
They just know, like, for example, if a girl's in love with me, if I was inclined to be a piece
01:37:33.420
of shit, it's really easy for me to manipulate a woman.
01:37:36.900
It's easier for me, much easier for me to manipulate a woman who's in love with me than a woman who's
01:37:44.520
It's much easier for me to siphon money from a woman.
01:37:47.700
Not that I'd ever do this unless you're on the podcast.
01:37:50.780
I could, so I could definitely siphon money from a woman who was in love with me versus
01:38:00.380
And so with their girlfriend experience that they do on this thing, they, they do lead the
01:38:08.240
And for a guy who has very little dating prospects, maybe the only attention they're getting from
01:38:14.120
a woman, positive attention is this OnlyFans girl.
01:38:16.640
So it's really easy to make that guy get really invested in the woman.
01:38:23.100
Why is your biggest issue with like how it's affecting the men and not the fact that like
01:38:27.200
a bunch of girls are getting groomed before they turn 18, like the minute they turn 18
01:38:31.560
to start an OnlyFans is that it's quick, easy money.
01:38:36.860
I don't know why you're bringing it to this underage thing.
01:38:39.220
Although, look, uh, well, first off, in order to be on OnlyFans, you have to be of age.
01:38:45.020
Now, yes, there are some women who like, it's my 18th birthday, going to drop the OnlyFans
01:38:53.520
But the majority of women on OnlyFans, it's not always a first choice.
01:38:57.720
The majority of women on OnlyFans are not being sex trafficked.
01:39:02.340
They, they want to be making a hundred thousand dollars a month.
01:39:05.480
I mean, not all of them make that much, but they, they want the quick money.
01:39:10.860
So this idea, I mean, I don't understand your criticism here.
01:39:15.700
Um, do I, of the women who are, or maybe being trafficked into OnlyFans, do I object
01:39:25.660
However, the majority of women are doing it willingly.
01:39:29.700
But like, yeah, like, I guess I'm just wondering, why do you think like when you talk about your
01:39:34.240
biggest gripe with OnlyFans, you're talking about how it affects the men.
01:39:37.100
Like, what about how it affects the women's mental state?
01:39:39.680
Like they have to deal with talking to weirdos all the time, or just the fact that just like
01:39:43.880
these girls probably have like something else going on.
01:39:46.420
Like, you know, like they don't respect themselves.
01:39:50.300
I'd be willing to grant, but it's not that I'd be willing to.
01:39:52.980
I do in fact grant that women who do sex work, it's harmful to them too.
01:39:59.000
I think a lot of women who do sex work actually end up having typically, uh, they typically
01:40:04.440
don't, while in it or after they leave it, they see a dark side of men sometimes that
01:40:22.400
If you can Google it, um, or somebody can, but yeah.
01:40:25.360
Well, I know what nymphomaniac is, but you could be in love sex.
01:40:28.720
Well, how do you know you don't have a sex addiction?
01:40:30.280
It makes it, I probably do have a sex addiction girl, but it's, it's under safe, I'm in safe
01:40:35.740
A woman can be a nymphomaniac and not be a sex worker.
01:40:39.660
Um, so we're getting into a different topic here.
01:40:42.640
You, you think all nymphomaniacs must be sex workers?
01:40:47.040
I'm saying I enjoy what I do because I believe that I am a bit of a nymphomaniac.
01:40:53.780
Um, I don't think that I'm going to come away from what I do.
01:40:58.640
I don't think I'm going to come away from it like a shell of a woman.
01:41:08.800
Um, I've been on OnlyFans for two years almost.
01:41:14.860
Is that the only form of sex work that you've done?
01:41:18.640
I need to get up momentarily, but if you guys want, it seemed like you guys wanted to
01:41:21.740
have a bit of back and forth on this, feel free to continue.
01:41:26.540
I worked with animals and I was doing my veterinary nursing degree.
01:41:33.420
And I was being paid a lot for what I was doing and my catwalk shows and my bikini modeling
01:41:40.160
And now when I get my payout and when I retire, I want to open a sanctuary to actually help
01:41:46.640
the animals that I have missed out helping while it's not doing my veterinary degree.
01:41:51.480
So do you not have a fear that you're going to age out of the industry?
01:41:54.160
Like by the time you reach, like, I don't know how old you are, but like, how old are
01:41:59.500
So like by the time you're like 27 plus, they start saying that you hit the wall.
01:42:05.220
So you have enough money you think to retire by then?
01:42:13.600
Just because I, I might, because I enjoy putting out my own content, I may still do that.
01:42:18.780
And like to my loyal fans, I probably still, I might like still use my site, but I won't
01:42:27.380
You said that you, it gives you pleasure doing what you do.
01:42:31.360
Do you think that we should do anything that gives us pleasure?
01:42:35.700
Or is there like a, a line that you draw there?
01:42:39.860
I say that we should, aside from sex, like we should all do what we love because predominantly
01:42:49.700
And all of your week is spent at your work normally.
01:42:52.720
So I do believe that we should all do something that we love in life.
01:42:58.720
Yes, but do you feel like you're adding like value to society and that you're like making
01:43:08.380
So that you're not like other than yourself, but like other people are also being better
01:43:20.720
I do, what I don't like about it is when men go behind their partner's backs to go on to
01:43:26.720
OnlyFans and like I do, there is a sense of like guilt that I find and I'm like, why
01:43:32.580
Just, and they'll be like, oh, my wife's upstairs and I'm like, well get off this fucking platform.
01:43:39.900
So what if, because just to go along with what we were saying, what if, do you think that
01:43:46.180
you can, something can please you, but be bad for you and if that's the case, then should
01:43:51.320
you not do what pleases you in some circumstances?
01:43:58.320
Like, like anything, like drugs or any addiction that anybody may have, like it may give them
01:44:04.400
pleasure for an amount of time, but then it could be detrimental to other people around
01:44:10.000
But I feel that what I do is like, I don't think I'm, I don't believe I'm hurting anybody
01:44:15.060
and yeah, I'm, I've not hurt any of my fans yet.
01:44:25.720
I don't have any, I don't have a bad rep on OnlyFans for being a scammer.
01:44:33.620
A lot of my friends as well are like, are not in the industry.
01:44:38.360
And I haven't even said my opinion or anything.
01:44:40.140
I'm just kind of playing devil's advocate, but if someone were able.
01:44:48.520
So if someone was able to convince you that you were harming someone, then in that case,
01:44:58.740
I would, I would probably rethink if it was something that was genuinely, extremely detrimental
01:45:04.540
to somebody's health or their life, then what was I'm, yeah.
01:45:08.040
So like if a cheating boyfriend does reach out to you and like messages you and be like,
01:45:13.140
Do you then cut off communication or do you still engage?
01:45:17.460
I will cut off conversation if I'm like, okay, this really isn't right.
01:45:21.500
And like, they'll tell me that they have children or whatnot.
01:45:25.280
Like genuinely, like I pick and choose who I talk to because it's actually me talking.
01:45:32.560
I'm really hard for people to believe, but it is.
01:45:34.820
But you don't think sometimes these guys that have partners.
01:45:37.680
So I'm not going to like entertain people that if they talk to me like shit, if they
01:45:42.200
come on and you're like, and they like are very vulgar and they're calling me names or
01:45:47.020
they want me to do certain things that I'm not comfortable with, I would never do it.
01:45:50.100
I have my own boundaries and yeah, that's important.
01:45:53.680
Can we all agree that people in general, not just women, but women and men should do whatever
01:45:59.900
makes them happy as long as it's not hurting themselves or other people?
01:46:06.780
I feel like sex work has been a thing for like centuries.
01:46:15.020
I feel like OnlyFans, honestly, I could say is like a kind of good thing because women
01:46:18.900
are finally being able to take control of what they want to do.
01:46:21.700
They're not getting exploited like they were on like Pornhub or anything like that.
01:46:25.660
And like OnlyFans was created by a woman because she wanted like woman creators.
01:46:34.180
It's a Jewish person who donates hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Israel war right
01:46:40.280
Yeah, but the whole purpose, I'm just saying like it's, it's like sex work will always
01:46:44.960
At least now when we're finally getting something out of it, like they're getting what they
01:46:49.600
Also, honestly, like OnlyFans and Pornhub, there honestly might be a better option because
01:46:58.000
But if you're not, if you don't want to do that, like there's still a way you can do
01:47:01.000
It might be more ideal than other forms of sex work.
01:47:03.760
And I would like, but sex work will always be a thing.
01:47:07.020
But you can still have a standard or like you can still think it's harmful to society.
01:47:14.960
But no matter what you do, you'll never get rid of like sex work.
01:47:20.580
Even if she sets her boundaries, these men are just going to find someone else who doesn't.
01:47:28.380
I think there's individual responsibility that we should place on the men who are consuming
01:47:34.200
And I think there's responsibility because I'm of the belief that sex work is wrong in
01:47:40.200
So I think that there's a tremendous amount of responsibility for those who are producing it as well.
01:47:45.900
So, and just because something's been here for a long time, I don't think that necessarily
01:47:50.060
means like, okay, well, let's just turn a blind eye or support it.
01:47:53.420
Well, it's just at least these women aren't being exploited as they were.
01:47:56.140
I think they are, but they're exploiting themselves.
01:48:00.420
Yeah, but just because you choose to do something doesn't make it.
01:48:02.960
But some people would say that people that go to work for 12 hours a day and they work
01:48:08.980
potentially like on a building site or in construction, I do believe that they're doing their
01:48:14.820
And I'll probably live a longer, more healthy and happier life than those people.
01:48:28.380
It's not about like being lazy and just taking a picture of your tits.
01:48:33.780
A part of me kind of wishes I could have your moral compass because if I did, if I wasn't
01:48:38.280
mean, if I was like you or had a part of like, you know, your moral compass, I would
01:48:44.220
Like I mentioned, I would have done the nude yoga.
01:48:46.000
I would have full sent it, but I knew a part of me would have felt destroyed.
01:48:49.520
And this is just the natural man speaking right now.
01:48:52.280
But the part of me that's, you know, not godly right now, I just, I wish I could be like
01:48:58.400
And if I tried, it would destroy me and like, I feel weird admitting that I'm jealous in
01:49:04.820
But like, there's, there's a Bible verse and it's interesting that you mentioned animals
01:49:07.980
and I have to share it because you've mentioned animals.
01:49:11.180
The good are kind to their animals, but the good acts of the wicked are considered cruel
01:49:19.260
and I'm not calling you wicked, but like, I hope, and I really hope one day you don't
01:49:24.540
wake up and like, look at yourself, like the picture of Dorian Gray and realize, oh my
01:49:28.380
gosh, look at me, look at this person I was and, and, and like have like this big regret.
01:49:32.760
Like if you, like you're genuinely like, that's your epistemology.
01:49:36.300
Everything you've said, that's your own epistemology, your dating epistemology, your career epistemology.
01:49:40.880
I respect that, you know, and I can't, I cannot argue.
01:49:44.160
And that's coming from two people that are completely polar opposites.
01:49:47.620
And, and I have my own, I cannot switch your epistemology with mine despite what I do.
01:49:54.760
I mean, I would, I don't want to sound like I'm judging you or anything like that.
01:49:58.680
I think at the end of the day we came on here to share our morals and our values.
01:50:06.980
I don't think that means I need to agree with what you say.
01:50:10.240
But one of the points you brought up was like the 12 hour work day.
01:50:22.100
But just while we're waiting, you had some hot takes.
01:50:27.600
While I step away, I'll let you have a little girl session if you want to dive into that.
01:50:35.140
But yeah, one thing I did send you was that I think a woman's right to vote should count as three-fifths of a man's vote.
01:50:48.500
Because I don't think women are nearly as competent as men are.
01:50:51.860
Like I've been around girls and they say these things like, oh, I don't want to go there.
01:50:58.680
It's like you've never heard a man ever opt out of anything out of fear because they don't have that option to.
01:51:03.620
I just, or like you just hear, like women tend to like rely on men a lot too.
01:51:08.080
Like they basically want like a surrogate father figure.
01:51:10.900
Like they think it's cute to have generalization.
01:51:15.740
I'm talking about like how women, like most women, honestly, like they tend to think it's like cute to be weak and incompetent.
01:51:21.940
And they want like a man to come and rescue them.
01:51:28.960
It's important to not generalize and say like most women, some women, you know?
01:51:35.860
Like what are you referring, you have to be specific there.
01:51:38.140
Because it is a generalization, but it's hard to say that just women in general aren't competent.
01:51:45.560
There's tons of women I know that are competent.
01:51:53.480
So what if I told you I can run a mile faster than my brother who works out every day?
01:52:02.280
I also finished technical college and he didn't.
01:52:09.900
Right, so what's the generalization when there's record-breaking surgery?
01:52:15.800
But what I'm telling you, for me personally, with my religion, in the Bible it says God created men and women equal.
01:52:21.660
Yes, with different roles, different roles in society.
01:52:24.920
But physically, I'm not as strong as my brother.
01:52:29.820
But to say that it's like almost like three-fourths of a man is almost like derogatory to your own self.
01:52:34.960
Like it's almost like some self-projection going on there because I don't think that way.
01:52:38.160
I don't think some of these other ladies here think that way.
01:52:41.600
You're basically saying we're worth like three-fifths of what a man is.
01:52:46.040
But do we do the same roles that men do in society?
01:52:48.700
Like they're most likely to get drafted into war, are we?
01:52:52.140
Wait, I think it should be both genders for the war.
01:52:54.860
There's definitely different gender roles in our society.
01:52:58.980
And you don't think men do more of like the harder work in society?
01:53:02.300
In this generation, it's honestly, it's starting to break.
01:53:05.680
So you think like there's a lot of women in blue-collar work?
01:53:08.340
I wouldn't say blue-collar, but there's in lawyers, doctors, surgeons.
01:53:11.780
Like women are showing that they're as confident.
01:53:15.660
But now women are starting to raise stronger women.
01:53:22.600
But again, with the generalization, we can't say all women, all men.
01:53:26.240
There's an exception to every stereotype, to every gender.
01:53:29.960
I think there's always exceptions to every rule.
01:53:31.520
So we can't say like most women act weak and incompetent and we want a man to provide for us.
01:53:38.520
You don't think women think it's cute to be weak and incompetent?
01:53:43.860
It's me getting fed up and jaded with my own gender acting that way all the time.
01:53:52.320
Someone that doesn't let like fear overtake her.
01:53:58.320
Do you believe that men are naturally more logical or rational?
01:54:03.140
I think there are like feminine men out there for sure.
01:54:05.920
But I think on average, yeah, like there's probably more men that are typically more rational than women are.
01:54:11.100
Did you know that scientifically a woman was created by God to think harder and rationally about situations?
01:54:17.520
While men, before the age of 26, when their brain, their frontal cortex is fully developed, they are statistically more inclined to take risks.
01:54:25.940
That's why a woman can rent a car at a younger age than a man can because her brain develops faster.
01:54:33.100
It doesn't mean that he's not going to be accelerated at certain things earlier on in life.
01:54:37.100
But it's like that specific part of the brain with critical thinking and risk assessment is developed much quicker in a woman.
01:54:42.960
So I'm trying to figure out like where like the logical like ground here is.
01:54:47.320
Like I said, I'm not a feminist, but it's like just scientifically, it just doesn't make sense.
01:54:50.620
Well, it's also confusing because you kind of just conceded the point that men on average are probably more rational than this isn't my belief.
01:54:57.880
I'm just, this is what you had conceded, right?
01:55:00.360
But you also said in order for a woman to be competent, she needs to be more rational.
01:55:05.040
So it's like, how do you believe in gender roles if you're saying in order for a woman to be competent, she needs to act like a man, which in your opinion is someone who's more rational.
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Well, I'm just saying it doesn't, it's like a, it's like you're asking girls to be or women to act more like men in your belief in order to be competent.
01:55:28.900
But you also believe in gender roles and that women should act like women and men should act like men.
01:55:34.420
I think like, I don't know, I feel like I can't control other people, right?
01:55:38.460
Like if there's a feminine guy out there, if there's a tomboy out there, like that's just who they are.
01:55:43.080
Like people, like everyone's their own person, you know?
01:55:45.220
So if there's a really strong woman, is that just who she is too?
01:55:49.060
So technically the same, it should apply to both genders, what you're saying about incompetency.
01:55:53.180
Yeah, I mean, I've definitely met like just really like, like typically like the quote unquote incels, like guys that are just like feel really entitled to a girl's affection, but they don't do anything but play video games all day.
01:56:05.040
Like I think guys like that are incompetent, you know, for one example.
01:56:10.580
So stereotypes do exist, but like, does that make generalizing okay?
01:56:14.680
Like what you said earlier about most women being weak and incompetent?
01:56:23.060
No, I said they liked, they think it's cute to act that way.
01:56:26.800
You think it's like, it's like weaponized incompetence almost.
01:56:34.440
Like if you know more women that act that way, you could say that.
01:56:38.400
But to generalize a gender and say that most of our gender acts that way.
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And I think probably a lot of the women here would take offense to that comment.
01:56:50.360
Like, like physically, like I can't lift anything.
01:57:02.580
Like I would disagree with you because I think you definitely can make generalizations.
01:57:13.240
Well, also, to be fair to women, I do want to point out, like I do think part of it comes
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from the fact that it's not just that women aren't encouraged.
01:57:19.740
They're actually actively discouraged, whether they're like good at school or good at their
01:57:24.280
Like a lot of times, like the whole concept of male mediocrity, like a guy will be not
01:57:29.000
as talented as a girl, but he gets all the attention because he's a guy.
01:57:34.120
Like people kind of just push back on women a lot and don't give them enough credit.
01:57:39.860
I feel like nowadays, I'm sorry for disagreeing with you on a lot, but no, I don't feel like
01:57:54.240
So I think we, we also highlight women because usually we don't choose to do like, for example,
01:58:01.960
So we tend to highlight women who do do those things like girls or women in STEM.
01:58:06.560
It's like a novel piece versus common, which is like male blue collar.
01:58:13.740
Like I can talk like Percy that are like more patriarchal.
01:58:16.700
So like when a girl gets born, everyone's like kind of like, oh, sucks for you.
01:58:20.500
But when a guy gets born, like everyone's so excited.
01:58:24.860
I know I've heard of something called machismo and like Latin culture too.
01:58:28.160
So I know that it is a thing, but I don't know about America.
01:58:33.000
I mean, that's a thing, but it's just that it's a thing.
01:58:40.200
Like I've had it happen to me in person where like I'm out with my dad and people will say
01:58:43.200
hi and greet him, but not me, you know, like that could be a respect thing too.
01:58:48.020
Because, you know, like that happens with me and my dad, but it's like, because some men,
01:58:52.960
don't like my dad might not want some, one of his friends talking to me, you know, and
01:58:58.520
they know that, or they don't want to cross that line, that boundary and make a mistake.
01:59:06.500
Going back to like gender roles and stuff like that.
01:59:09.080
Do you believe that it's, it should be more socially acceptable and it should be okay for
01:59:18.080
How like crying, crying, expressing their feelings, emotions besides like anger, you know?
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I think it's okay for men to be nurturing and vulnerable, but I don't think men should
01:59:35.880
What's the difference between women crying and men crying?
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Cause I think like men kind of have to, like, I know like in my household, for example,
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like men kind of like have to make a decision for a household or something.
01:59:47.340
Like you kind of have to know that this person's like reliable or mentally strong.
01:59:52.520
But it sounds like a very like culturally based take.
01:59:55.140
And I'm going to agree with you on that because like, not agree, sorry, disagree with you on
01:59:57.680
that because I was also raised in a very culturally based family, German, hardcore.
02:00:06.300
He is now two divorces later crying doing AA because he didn't express that for all the
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And now at the age of 21 with me, I was taught word for word.
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I was raised, I was supposed to go to military school, didn't end up going because of a surgery
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is that men don't cry, get on your toes, stand at attention.
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He's now teaching me all these years later, he sat us down.
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He told me that was some place where I went wrong because that's what, that's how I was
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I passed down the generational trauma and it had a huge effect on me to the point where
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it broke two different marriages because if men don't express their feelings, it comes
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out in other ways, abuse, mistreatment, emotional abuse, whatever it is, divorce.
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And later on in life, they have to deal with it.
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And it is a very culturally based thing, not as much in general American households anymore,
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but with more traditional families, that's how it works.
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But I'm just want to show you what, from my perspective and from all the other aspects of my
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family, because it's happened in other branches of my family, that that's the outcome.
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Like as a woman, you know, if we're feeling distressed or our mental health is, you know,
02:01:16.800
not good, we're told to like go to therapy or open up to someone about it or talk about
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But like men aren't like openly allowed to cry or allowed to like show emotions.
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And like, what does that do to a person's mental state?
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Like you're just talking in circles about something that's never going to change.
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I went, you would expect them to hand you a tissue and pat you on the back.
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It's coping mechanisms and like new ways of looking at things.
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And I totally respect your view if you don't agree with therapy and you don't agree with
02:01:58.960
That's like, I respect your opinion, but I think like to generalize and say that therapy
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doesn't work is just like, you know, it's another like big generalizing statement because
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And I feel like if you're talking in circles and you're not getting anywhere, that's a,
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That's a you problem too, because you should be willing to change if you actually want to
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There's different ways to help yourself besides therapy.
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Some people might go to therapy and be like, you know, this isn't working for me.
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And then they'll go on and do a different form of something to help with their mental
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health, whether that's like art or, you know, a different form of expressing themselves,
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And I respect people having like their own opinions on that.
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But what I was going back to, like that got off topic is like, I don't think it's healthy
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for anyone to suppress their emotions and what they're going through.
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It's going to lead to bigger problems in the future.
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I think you should know how to control your emotions though.
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And I think maybe we should give women a little bit more leeway in terms of, because I mean,
02:03:08.780
Like there are certain times of the month that I'm crazy and there are certain times where
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And so I think like there is some validity to that.
02:03:16.900
And I, I don't, I know I was raised with a dad who was like very traditional to my mom,
02:03:24.320
And I like respect him a lot because of how he controlled his emotions.
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So I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to, I don't want to say full on suppress your
02:03:35.040
emotions, but control them, learn how to control them.
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Controlling and suppressing your emotions are two different things.
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I think regulating is then the next level up from that.
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So, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want my husband constantly coming to me crying and I don't
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think he would want the same from, for me to him to either.
02:03:56.840
But I think a lot of women would say that, but I don't know that they would necessarily
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respect a guy that came crying to them about something that, you know, I 1000% would.
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I would think that I would actually see the man as being a lot stronger for being able
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to open up to me and come to me about something and like express their emotions to me in that
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Happy that they were able to come to me and confide in me.
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Happy that, you know, they were able to come to me and I was able to be there for them
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And also just like glad that, you know, things are changing in our society so that they didn't
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feel like that pressure to keep it all pent inside.
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It's really important that you're providing that space for a man to come to you because
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And male suicides are higher than any other suicide rate.
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And I think that it's, yeah, opinions like that of men not being allowed to cry or express
02:05:07.720
What would you do if a man that you really cared about, a friend, someone you loved, a
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family member came to you crying about something?
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Are you going to make fun of them and be like, oh, that's not manly of you?
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I would never make fun of someone like while they're crying or something like that.
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I mean, like I would definitely like ask what's going on and like try to figure out what's
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But I have to be honest and admit like there is a part of me that would kind of get the
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Would you think they're weak for crying in front of you?
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And you're not weak for that because you're a woman, right?
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Like, I guess like she said, like women have like hormonal stuff going on too sometimes.
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What you're saying right now is that their feelings are not valid to cry when we're on
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She asked if it was okay to only cry when we're on our periods.
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Um, but if you're doing, if you're just as emotional as me, it's going to be harder for
02:06:12.000
me to respect you because I need someone to ground me.
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Um, like I'm not asking for him to be like my therapist or anything, but like, I, I don't
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I feel like it is harder for a woman to respect a guy if he's just as emotional as her.
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And that's why I think like something can be true for a woman.
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Like it might be okay for me to constantly cry about things because I just happen to be
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But if that was the same for a guy, because he's a guy and this might seem unfair to some
02:06:37.140
people, um, it's, it's just, it would be harder, at least speaking for myself, it'd
02:06:43.540
Um, and not to say he can't come to me if he ever needs to, um, or he can't be vulnerable
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because I think vulnerability, vulnerability is like very important in a relationship.
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Um, but at this, there is kind of that double standard if you will, but it's, it just goes
02:07:00.580
I'd like to challenge that though, because that gets into different people and different
02:07:04.900
Every person has different needs and wants in a relationship, in a friendship, whatever.
02:07:09.180
If you have your own mental health stuff, like say you're struggling with depression,
02:07:14.700
anxiety, whatever, and you're going to your partner a lot crying or, you know, just expressing
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that to them that you're in like emotional distress, you might not be able to take on the emotional
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distress of your partner being in that same headspace.
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Like the man needs to stand up and be the bigger part.
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Like I don't, I just think like if two people are both in mental, like bad mental head spaces,
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I think, but even if they're in an ideal mental headspace, I don't think it changes anything
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Like there's variations, but I think there is usually a rule of like typically if a man
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is just as emotional as his partner, um, then typically she, it's going to be harder
02:08:02.000
I think there's like different times you might be going through different things in your life
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and it might make it, you know, harder to balance.
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But I think again, there's, there's usually a general rule that applies.
02:08:14.400
And I just, from what I've experienced and seen with my girlfriends and stuff, I, I just
02:08:21.600
That's kind of like a biological thing almost that women are like most women, again, a
02:08:26.220
situational are like programmed to want to feel safe and protected.
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And like, yes, like I said before, I believe that men should be able to cry when they need
02:08:33.100
to express their feelings in a vulnerable space with the right person.
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And again, situation to situation for me, I don't want a man that's crying every day
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And it's like, that's, for me, that's really rooted on, I value masculinity a lot.
02:08:47.060
Not that I really fully believe to like the stereotypical definitions of that.
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But for example, a long time ago, I went on one date with this guy and then I went on
02:08:56.360
And on the second date, he just started breaking down, crying in my arms, like bawling about
02:09:01.360
how he misses his mother that lives in Florida.
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And I was out after that because I don't tolerate that because I am more of a strong
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personality and I don't want the roles in that category to be reversed for myself.
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It is a to each their own thing, but I think just biologically, at least I'm stuck to my
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The woman might be more masculine and that's a whole nother conversation.
02:09:27.380
I think it's sad that we're saying that like, well, some people are saying that it's masculine,
02:09:49.780
That's kind of like saying girls don't fart or poop.
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I wish I didn't, but I do because I can't control that.
02:09:59.760
And I feel like saying that a man who cries, I mean, I understand if it can, anybody crying
02:10:08.540
Or trauma-dumping like that, you know, there's a time in place.
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Did anybody else want to weigh in on the women should have three-fifths?
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There's no reason why we should have three-fifths of a vote.
02:10:27.960
Like, but her reason, I guess there's some way I can empathize with her.
02:10:31.400
Maybe she's just not surrounded by whatever competent woman, like she's saying.
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Like, I see that they are capable of doing anything just as much as a man.
02:10:49.100
And like, yeah, obviously men are stronger than women.
02:10:51.460
But like, mentally, women can be as strong as men.
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Like, there's nothing about our, like, gender that has any difference with that.
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Well, I have some slight disagreements, a little bit there.
02:11:03.540
I think on average, men and women are equal in intelligence, on average.
02:11:10.600
However, there's something called the, and it's, I don't even know if it's a theory anymore.
02:11:15.460
There's something called the greater male variability myth.
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Sorry, did I just, Freudian slip that shit, myth?
02:11:24.440
So, on the averages, you actually have more women in terms of where the average IQ lands.
02:11:31.000
Mary, can you Google greater male variability hypothesis or theory or whatever?
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We'll show you the thing just to demonstrate it.
02:11:38.680
So, but what you have happening, though, is on average, men and women are about equal in terms of intelligence.
02:11:51.960
Like, there are more really, really stupid men than there are really, really stupid women.
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However, coinciding with that, you have more really, really intelligent men than you do have really, really intelligent women.
02:12:07.480
On the average, if you average it out, it's the same.
02:12:16.580
So, the blue would be women and the green would be men.
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So, what you end up having is there's more really stupid people as men.
02:12:29.620
But there's more women who have, you know, in that center.
02:12:35.400
So, this is why, for example, in certain endeavors where it's not physical at all, like chess, for example, you don't see women.
02:12:44.940
Now, you might say, well, it's women have less of a propensity to want to play chess.
02:12:51.860
But they wouldn't really explain in a game where there's actually no physical component to it.
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Why don't we see any, like, in terms of, like, grandmasters and stuff, women can't really compete with men on chess.
02:13:10.180
Now, by the way, I don't agree with her on her little voting thing, but just wanted to at least provide that clarity.
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I don't know if you disagree with me on that, though.
02:13:17.900
I mean, how many, like, women, though, are, like, raised to, are, like, encouraged to play chess?
02:13:24.240
Like, I feel like chess is something that, I mean, I grew up to play chess, but it was never, like, to...
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Well, but it was never, I was never taught to be that passionate, just so I can be able to play it, like, play pool, play chess, like, and any, I can just have those talents.
02:13:39.940
But, like, what woman is pushed and, like, like, to only pursue chess and to, like, make that, like, her only goal of life?
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I mean, my counter would be what women are precluded from exploring chess.
02:13:50.660
It's kind of funny because, like I said, this is European household I grew up in.
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My brother was taught from a very young age to play chess, and I was not invited.
02:13:57.940
In general, like, you see in the chess, like, competitions, it's a lot of people from, like, Eastern Europe, young men.
02:14:05.300
It is kind of, like, a traditional thing, actually, believe it or not.
02:14:08.080
But this is just one very obscure, tiny example we're talking about chess.
02:14:11.000
But I think, in general, certain hobbies are pushed more on men, and certain hobbies are pushed more on women.
02:14:15.460
If it was the case, you would hope that you would see, like, it's, perhaps it is the case that there's, well, it is the case, that there is a higher proportion of men who play chess.
02:14:24.780
I don't, I wouldn't just default to, well, women aren't being pushed into it.
02:14:29.700
I would say women have a lacking of interest in those sorts of things.
02:14:33.460
In the same way that there's no preclusion from women having an interest in women's sports.
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Explain to me the great societal conspiracy that prevents women from caring about women's sports.
02:14:47.600
There's absolutely none, yet it is the reality, both for men's sports and for women's sports.
02:14:52.740
Women just overwhelmingly seem to not care about viewing sports in general, whether it's women's sports, whether it's men's sports.
02:14:59.840
So, look, there may be a case that, yes, maybe they're pushing their boys a little bit more, but you still have some women.
02:15:06.080
And you would expect to see some women who did get pushed at an early age, who have been playing since childhood, who are highly intelligent, who are exceptionally skilled at chess.
02:15:17.060
You would expect to see some of them have the capacity to occasionally beat, you know, some of these top chess players, but they just don't.
02:15:28.300
There could be some superstar female chess player that comes along again.
02:15:32.720
But this idea that just to dismiss, you know, the physical realm, well, of course, when it comes to sports, men are physically stronger than women.
02:15:40.560
But I do think that we do see some variability in terms.
02:15:45.400
And by the way, I mean, you're going to have to determine, those of you who are upset by the following statement, I mean, that's on Wikipedia if you want to look into it, the greater male variability thing.
02:15:54.240
And you're going to have to determine what's actually more sexist.
02:15:57.160
Because on one hand, I'm saying, well, there's more men who are way fucking dumber than women.
02:16:03.300
But there's also men who are way smarter than women.
02:16:06.260
So you got to kind of, am I the sexist against men, against women?
02:16:12.000
But I feel like the most important thing, like, an average person, like, the roles of, like, a doctor, a lawyer, like, all those average roles, like, yeah, chess, but, like, how much does chess really, like, impact society?
02:16:22.620
I feel like day-to-day roles, like, women and men, they are both equally equipped to do what?
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Like, if I'm saying, like, yeah, that theory honestly makes sense.
02:16:32.060
Like, yeah, there are more stupid men, and there are probably a lot more.
02:16:34.960
There are probably, like, a lot more, like, geniuses that are always going to be more men.
02:16:41.060
But then day-to-day, like, who's, like, in society and who's, like, really contributing to society, it's men and women have equal roles in that regard.
02:16:49.880
Well, so you mentioned doctors, lawyers, I guess.
02:16:57.340
I think just I'll give you, like, I guess one charitable position.
02:17:00.220
I think sometimes female doctors can have, sometimes have a tendency to have a better bedside manner, which can be good in a medical setting.
02:17:12.080
They can sometimes be a bit more open in some ways.
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But I don't know if I totally agree with the men and women equally contribute to society.
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Well, more just, like, we can work the same jobs, like, in those, like, just, like, the average day-to-day jobs.
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We can work the same jobs, but we have certain strengths and certain weaknesses.
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Well, I mean, I would say that it depends what we mean by keeping society functioning or running.
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My position is a lot of the jobs that women occupy, they're, I mean, it depends what we mean by important.
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In terms of having society function, though, I'm not actually sure that women participate nearly to the same degree that men do.
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So, for example, telecommunications, water systems, waste collection, firefighting, you know, physical labor jobs, transportation jobs.
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So, how is it that you guys get the ingredients for your boba?
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Well, do you think that women are capable of...
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How is it, so the farmers, the men who transport it, the men who work on oil rigs, that women are definitely not have offshore oil rigs.
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They don't, I don't even think they physically can do it.
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So, if you, actually, you know what, Mary, pull up, Mary, go to Discord, go to Men at Work tab.
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Men at Work, you're going to play, we're going to look at the most recent three.
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When it comes to the critical infrastructure jobs, the proportion of men that are in the jobs that actually make society function,
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it's overwhelmingly men, anywhere from 80% all the way to 100%.
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So, like, what about, like, the nurses when they get hurt?
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I'm pretty sure, like, at least in my industry, it's female-dominated.
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Yeah, there's a predominance of women in some healthcare positions.
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I feel like if you're comparing, like, blue-collar jobs, yeah, that's different.
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But then there's also, there are, like, industries where it's woman-dominated.
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Like, more, like, it's equal, like, there's women-dominated, like, industries and then male.
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And, look, I'm not saying that women's contribute...
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Obviously, women are a necessary function of society.
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But in terms of women's careers and professions, if, for example, without any preparation, we were to snap our fingers and we did a comparative analysis.
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If all men disappeared versus all women disappeared and the impact that the doubt...
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Let's put aside, like, that would obviously suck to lose mothers and wives and girlfriends and daughters and friends and et cetera, et cetera.
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That would obviously be terrible, catastrophic, and there wouldn't really be a way to reproduce the species from there.
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But putting all that aside, in terms of the representation of the various professions that men and women...
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In terms of the varying professions that men and women are in, because of men's over-representation in critical infrastructure...
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So, what you would have happen if men and women were to just instantly disappear, doing a comparison of both, it would obviously suck.
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But society would, you know, there'd be disruption in certain fields, the medical field, education field.
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But these aren't typically quite as critical as something like people who work in telecommunications, people who manage the electrical grid, people who manage water, people who manage...
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My boyfriend works in telecommunication with Frontier, and there's not a single woman who works with him.
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When you pass a construction site, when you see men who are working out in the heat, you ever see women?
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Like, every time I pass it, like, men who are in the high-vis jackets and the hard hats, I never see women.
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And so my position would be, if you were to get rid of all men, you'd basically have complete catastrophe, cascading failures to the point where women will be basically have to depart en masse, all urban centers within a few days.
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And then you'll have, like, within a month, I think 50% of women are dead.
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But because you just aren't involved, you think the modern city woman is going to survive?
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Like, look, some women will survive, but it's going to be complete catastrophe.
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But in terms of their lack of representation in critical infrastructure jobs, you're going to have impacts in, like, the medical field a little bit.
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But, like, society, as we experience it and enjoy it, in terms of food supplies, oil supplies, electricity, lights, air conditioning, or if you're in a really cold region, heaven forbid this were to happen in the middle of winter,
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or, yeah, any woman in a cold area is dead within four days, five days, maybe.
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I don't know if you think the women are going to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and be boss babes and figure out how to run electrical plants, nuclear plants.
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They're going to figure out how to figure out the wastewater.
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They're going to all of a sudden become truckers and be able to figure this out.
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Now, there's a level of knowledge that uniquely lies in men that women would not have the requisite time to be able to prepare for some sort of...
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Now, look, if you prepared women, you gave women a year to...
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Then I think it might be okay, but snap your fingers.
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For men, yeah, I mean, it's the end of the species.
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But all the comforts of modernity, those would be maintained if all women were to disappear.
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All the comforts you guys take for granted would disappear within a week.
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Firefighters, fires are going to break out eventually within 24 to 48 hours.
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You're not going to be able to fight the fires because that's predominantly men.
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And you're going to have to evacuate major urban hubs because of the fucking rampant uncontrolled fires.
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And your water and electricity is going to be off.
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And there's going to be massive food shortages.
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Probably some badass women are going to go to Costco and take fucking everything and have some guns.
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And then the other women, I don't know, you're going to have to forage in the fucking concrete jungle of Los Angeles.
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I don't know if you have any thoughts on any of that.
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I feel like wouldn't it be harder for a blue-collar, like a person who has a blue-collar job to work like in the medical field or like a white-collar job rather than someone who's in the white-collar or like medical field to transition to a blue-collar job.
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Yeah, like wouldn't it be harder for a blue-collar person to transition into the medical field or like a white-collar job rather than someone who's a white-collar or like in the medical field to transition to a blue-collar job.
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we still have men that do both white collar and men who do both but if you're i mean like honestly
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the equivalent of a man who works a blue collar job is a woman who are estheticians or like
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hairstylists like that's just what we're pushed into but i feel like if you are picking a blue
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i don't know if you're pushed into it you pick those things no i think we are i think gender
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is a performance to some extent i think like women because they prioritize like group order
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and social harmony there's this peer pressure that they have when they're amongst each other
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to be kind of fake like say things like oh my god girl you look so beautiful and like she's a whale
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like i just have to do with what we were just talking about i'm talking about gender is a
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performance like i'm talking about how women feel peer pressure to say things that they don't really
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mean like that's one aspect of it like for example like how certain hobbies are pushed on to certain
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genders like every time a girl gets a birthday gift it's either like jewelry fuzzy socks or lip gloss
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but when a guy gets a gift it's like video games or like a book about science or history i want
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jewelry fuzzy socks and lip gloss but there's some girls like me that don't want that yeah there's
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but but a lot of them do but and there's guys but how much of that is peer pressure by society
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how much of that is peer pressure from society so are we just not allowed to like it like if you
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don't that's on you but like like you said this sorry really quick who wants pizza oh thank you
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we have some pizza one two three four anybody else can you get gluten-free pizza oh sorry i have
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celiac disease it's not like i don't choose it can you hand out the pizza for the people who raise
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their hand sorry i didn't mean to interrupt you can i just scoot your mic this way yeah and then
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straighten your mic tilt down i don't want to die sorry i didn't mean to interrupt you do you want
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to finish your point um i don't remember my thought but sorry my bad no worries i just realized the
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pizza was getting cold back there so oh shit there's no good you were asking her like good
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does anybody remember what to like those we were talking about how she i think she was making the
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point that well she thinks that women are pressured into certain fields right yeah by like each other
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mostly what do you mean by that how do we pressure each other you don't seem very pressured because
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like you said you don't like that things and that's okay but yeah i mean i don't feel pressured but
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i don't i wouldn't say i'm like like i don't represent all women you know like i just feel
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like when i'm around other women there's always this like pressure there's like restraint that we
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can't say what we really think maybe you're just not around like people who like the same things in
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you maybe you just haven't found your clarifying question for you are you saying because women feel
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like we because we feel like we need to perform because we want jewelry and fuzzy socks or what have
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you that tying in with what um brian was saying um with industry is that because that's why we choose
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jobs because of our of what we gender orient ourselves towards does my question make sense
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like so we like fuzzy socks does that mean we're like choosing a girlier job like being like a makeup
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stylist yeah i think so okay but i think they did studies on this and i don't remember what country
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specifically but it was a country that was heavily pushing women to do traditionally masculine jobs
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um and it actually showed that even when we're pushing for women to do to be in stem to be cops to
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do whatever they actually chose still to do what we were already doing just being teachers nurses they
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still chose overwhelmingly professions that historically women traditionally have done so even i don't know
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that so you think it's a biological component i think we just have different interests and i think
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again in countries that have that even when you push women to do certain things sometimes we just
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there's one more right did you want it or who wanted you wanted a piece right yeah but then she
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you wanted a piece no there should be one more right mary okay um that one's yours right did you
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want no oh wait we have one two three four i thought we want oh so maybe pass that one to her
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no that's for her oh that's for you okay yeah so one more mary uh here we have a chat but we'll
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continue on with the thank you based justin based justin donated one hundred dollars how many of
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these ladies have run a 240 volt circuit in bent pipe or sweat copper for plumbing or dug trenches
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or engineered anything mechanical or even started a fire on purpose yeah
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yeah justin thank you for the uh tts appreciate it man base justin w's in the chat for him
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uh by the way this isn't like to some dunk on women like i just think it's the reality there's a
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nature and nurture component to it so i think for a lot of these jobs the reality is uh i think
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there's a nurture component so like a societal thing where uh women are either not pushed or
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you know but there's also i think in sweden or one of the scandinavian countries where you have
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basically the most egalitarian uh viewpoints and the most egalitarian societies you actually see a
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tendency for women to actually in terms of the job differences women tend to actually go more
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towards the i guess i don't know if more feminine jobs is the right characterization even in societies
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that are more equal so as a society gets more equal you actually you actually see women going more
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towards the more traditionally feminine careers whereas like in a country like india for example
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my understanding is you'll that's when you actually end up seeing more women like engineers
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you see more women in the sort of the fields that were viewed more historically as male dominated i
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think culturally in indian culture the men tend to like they kind of tend to be like pussies for lack
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of a better word they're like mama's boys and so the women tend to be more macho for that reason than
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their men well i don't i don't know anything about that but um ultimately uh where were we with all of
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that um well also i just think women just don't have the physical they don't have an interest in
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a lot of these things and they just don't have the physical strength to do it they don't have the
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physical strength to do a lot of these jobs well men are like physically stronger than women yeah can
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i have you tilt your mic down and straighten it um yeah i think that men are physically stronger than
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women and i think that yeah that's a main reason why these jobs are more predominantly you know done
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by men and maybe perform better by men but i do think that there are you know right to to every i
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mean to every like stereotype or to every like you know that it's a field predominantly run by men like
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there are women in it like you know well i guess um the question could go uh hmm i'm wondering how to
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phrase this hold on let me think this here let's play the videos really quick mary let's play those
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videos and then i can have you jump in the three videos uh just play it i don't even know if there
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is sound but so like look women don't want to do this they don't want to do it most people like
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it's not just oh the evil there's a conspiracy theory of men who are holding women back from
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doing these jobs even if it was like completely there were completely everything's uh fair in
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society women still just wouldn't want to do these jobs uh and look i think maybe that points to
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it could be a bit of a privilege but actually hey i don't want to do that i don't want to do that
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shit that shit is dangerous so maybe women are smarter women are more aware of their own self
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preservation uh by the way the you know we talk about wage gap we talk about the women are paid
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less than men as a gap observation there's a different gap observation called the workplace fatality
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gap the workplace injury gap men are like 93 percent or something of workplace fatalities
02:33:12.260
are men 90 something percent of workplace injuries are men so there's all kinds of gaps but uh play the
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next one yeah start from the beginning i guess play it all right so there these guys are in like
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i don't know where i think they're in a it's gonna pan down here in a sec but they're in
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like a it looks like a some sort of silo of some sort i don't know if it's an i don't know anybody in
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the chat know what that is exactly i don't know they're in some kind of silo of some kind
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now i'm i'm not fan of heights but that's fucking insane okay these guys have uh and look there's all
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kinds of videos we could show let's just do the next one
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yeah that's fine uh this one so it's raining on a i believe this is a offshore oil platform i think
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go ahead play it wait wait pause it audio please yeah give us audio please video tab
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all right women don't want to do that i don't even think they can physically maybe like
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looking at that last video see how like the guy's friend was like cheering him on in the back
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maybe like men doing these jobs it also comes with like a sense of pride and ego that they're
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able to fulfill these responsibilities so maybe like like you said women some women most women
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don't want to do that and that's true but maybe some men do want to do that because it like sure
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yeah sure but i don't think it i guess we were she was talking about she like and i don't really
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agree with her totally on this she wants women to have three-fifths of the vote that men have um
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and then we were talking about i think you were mentioning mahi that that women's uh in terms of
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profession professional contribution to society is equal to men
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i don't think it is now i'm not saying women don't contribute societally through their profession
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but i mean can i ask you a question um knowing i mean maybe you disagree about the representation of
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men in these fields but would you i don't know how to frame this let's just say we were to instantly
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and i use this not literally but figuratively let's say we just instantly we didn't get rid of any of
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the people but we got rid of their jobs like and i don't know some weird hypothetical we instantly
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nuke figuratively all of women's professions like that that all the not women excuse me not women's
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professions all jobs that women currently have we just nuke them like they just disappear they're gone
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or but no women disappear the demographics stay the same nobody dies or you nuke all men jobs
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instantly in which society would you rather live in you mean male dominated or female dominated well
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you're not getting rid of the entire job just whatever job all women in the world currently have
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those jobs are just and you can't replace them just instantly gone like no more nurses no i think
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both of them will eventually die out like maybe the one where you nuke women's jobs because women
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will most of the nurses teach like nurses like if you go to hospital then men they're just dying like
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it's done for them but then yeah woman like the blue collar jobs men work them maybe will die more
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fast but then women men will eventually also die like there's no society that's a little bit better
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i think that's why can't a man be a nurse well i think they can't i'm not saying they can't men and
02:37:09.180
women can be whatever they want but there are women yeah there are women that's a woman just
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dominated well i think in this hypothetical i think in this hypothetical we would have to grant
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that you can't replace with the other gender like these jobs are just gone so there are some male
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nurses they remain but yes you can't refill the female jobs with men i mean also there are some
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women like blue collar workers but i'm just saying like each society is like doomed i would rather
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i would do neither because each of them are you had to pick one though the man's society would last
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longer because a lot of women no you don't kill you you don't know in the life yourself a lot of
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women's jobs exist solely to serve other women like eyelash extensions facials hair i believe that
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the men's world where all the women got evaporated they would last a lot longer because there are still
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male nurses i know because i see them but not as many as women but i think that the overall arch of
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like what men are capable of doing like they can cover a day-to-day woman's job much easier than a
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man and then a woman can go working on the oil rig which doesn't even exist any ways so like it seems
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like this just boils down to uh to mahi to your point let's say we just actually the entire health care
02:38:26.900
field was completely uh figuratively nuked wow so even men there are no men in the health care field
02:38:36.080
either uh this would obviously be really bad people would die really catastrophic uh but ultimately
02:38:43.820
i don't actually think that there would be a great deal of disruption actually to society
02:38:52.120
as compared to if it's like okay well let's just go ahead and nuke uh you know the people that work
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in uh you know those who oversee the electrical grid telecommunications oil refinery transportation
02:39:07.780
farming all these things like yeah it would obviously a lot of people would die people wouldn't be able
02:39:12.800
to get medical intervention a lot of people would die even people who are in those critical fields who
02:39:17.880
have cancer who have ongoing medical needs uh yeah that's gonna have an impact but i think society as
02:39:24.460
we enjoy it running water electricity plumbing cell phone internet those things persist so like
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it would be catastrophic it would be very bad i wouldn't say catastrophic but i feel like it'd be very
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bad but but then i feel like a lot of blue-collared people would not want to go to work because if you
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just know there's no health care system like oh if i get hurt there i can't be treated a lot of people
02:39:47.460
wouldn't want to put themselves at risk yeah well i feel like people have been doing physical labor
02:39:53.080
jobs throughout all human history yeah there was not good health care like 300 years ago i don't
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think that's why like okay i'm just gonna get some leeches put on me okay but i don't know i feel
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like if there was like obviously maybe it wouldn't immediately society wouldn't immediately be gone
02:40:08.540
but it would slowly like people wouldn't want to take as many risks like people wouldn't want to put
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themselves in danger like even yeah ever there's always been dangerous jobs but you always kind of knew
02:40:16.940
like oh i can get help maybe in a way but now if that whole thing is gone people wouldn't want to
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put themselves in danger for nothing maybe i i think men i mean obviously the economy chugs along so
02:40:28.820
people still are going to go to work they still need to make money they still need to buy food
02:40:33.180
have housing so um it would be bad it'd definitely be bad a lot of people would die but i i don't see a
02:40:40.480
total societal collapse is what i'm getting at whereas if you start chipping away at the
02:40:46.560
jobs in which men disproportionately have i've already mentioned them you know telecoms those
02:40:53.740
who oversee electrical grid water systems uh trucking farming etc um you do see you do see
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societal collapse if we nuke figuratively speaking uh male dominated jobs but not female dominated jobs
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i disagree i disagree you disagree i feel like if all the men disappeared yeah things would be
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horrible for sure but i mean things haven't always been the way they are now society has existed before
02:41:27.540
all of these jobs so things will get figured out eventually uh well here's i i guess my
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so some women will be able to adapt but i think uh i think all the women sitting at this table
02:41:42.260
most of you have probably lived comfortable suburban or urban lives most of you probably
02:41:48.540
have never foraged food in the forest most of you are not survivalists so i would say like yes
02:41:54.800
historically we didn't have a lot of the comforts that we have now we didn't have electricity we didn't
02:41:59.340
have running water we didn't have agriculture we didn't have farming we didn't have all these things
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um but people were adapted to it hundreds or thousands of years ago they knew how to live
02:42:10.520
under those confines then but it's like you have so many and by the way men also have lived
02:42:16.140
very comfortable lives too i'm not saying like okay if all if this happened in a scenario where
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men and women were affected uh a lot of men are not survivalists a lot of men don't know how to start
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a fire i think men might fare a little bit better because of their physical advantage
02:42:32.080
jesus christ wait cap it bro you're are you drunk what the fuck can you fix it please
02:42:38.340
you put me in the chair that everybody has okay no it's mary mary you did it
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can you just scoot behind her so she can fix it mary just fix that please sorry guys one sec here
02:42:53.320
that was absolutely no it's not your fault yeah it's a tight situation it's all good um hold on let me
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let some chats come through sorry for the mary audio josh donated 100 can we go around the table
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and answer when you die what do you want to be remembered for and by who most of us are forgotten
02:43:17.280
by everyone except our families in death so what's important to you uh we'll do that in just
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a moment josh thank you for your message hold on yo josh uh appreciate that thank you i'm gonna let
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this one come through from justin then we're gonna answer that one okay josh i hope i didn't trigger it
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twice we're about to see based justin donated 100 all women's jobs are gone men then get paid more
02:43:43.040
and we can now return to establishing families raising children on a single income imagine that
02:43:49.040
can you pass it down that way i was i was thinking that same thing like okay i work in child care
02:43:55.580
and if you and it's predominantly female if it disappeared then more women would just be at home
02:44:03.900
with their kids which is not a bad thing base justin donated 100 can you take that women's
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jobs are gone men then get paid more and we can now return to establishing families and raising
02:44:16.280
children on a single income imagine uh going around the table when you die what do you want to be
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remembered for and by who quick answer please okay i want to be remembered by the people that i love
02:44:30.140
as someone who is um who feels free to be creative and express myself um no matter what that means you
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know and to be someone that's loving and caring and accepting all right quick answers please well
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can you come back to me yeah i want to be remembered for taking care of other people and living like jesus did
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i want to be remembered for being fun and a good friend and taking care of animals okay um i want to
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contribute to psychology and how like everlasting
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i want to be remembered for like just someone who tried i want to be someone who tried and um
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someone who's kind i want to be remembered for being a loving person okay you you you were skipping go
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ahead uh i want to be remembered by my kids for being a loving mom what about you uh the legacy i
02:45:33.360
passed down specifically the values i passed down to my children and the faith in god
02:45:37.060
all right thank you for that uh brendan gilman the girl that hasn't said much number nine black dress
02:45:42.420
is cute as cute as anything that's you babe you just put your hoodie on yeah uh you on the right
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side of the stream have opinions with no justification men have force bricks and based okay um thank you
02:45:56.460
brandon for your super chat appreciate it man uh i am trying to remember where we were on all of
02:46:03.040
that stuff um jobs disappearing oh yeah jobs disappearing yeah uh
02:46:09.860
you said you were saying something on that i'm trying to remember you you talked about it i said
02:46:18.720
you know things haven't always been this way oh right yeah yeah well i mean it would be obviously
02:46:24.980
terrible thing to happen but uh look it is what it is i'm so tired of the whole men versus women thing
02:46:34.920
is so old it's like we're we need to work together that's like the bottom line i think the algorithm
02:46:41.180
pushes it a little bit you should tell that to the feminists they need to get over it they need to get
02:46:47.260
over it well i would say this i would say this so when you start viewing things and forwarding to
02:46:54.300
society and then infiltrating academia and then forwarding it upon institutions and governments and
02:47:01.160
media and journalism and the news and corporations when look it is true that throughout history women have
02:47:11.200
had specifically gendered grievances what feminists have done is said women have had specifically gendered
02:47:21.440
grievances and some of those are valid some of those are true but they have done a sort of
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what's the best framing for this they've completely forsaken or done any investigation
02:47:35.480
as to compared to what and the comparison would be was just we're only considering and analyzing the
02:47:44.120
ways in which women have been disadvantaged without a sort of comparative lens of at what price and as
02:47:53.060
compared to who compared to men and they wanted to i mean feminism is basically women oppressed men
02:47:57.940
oppressors men are to men are to be blamed uh in a sort of marxist way it's basically
02:48:04.900
class class division between men and women where uh women are the oppressed group men are the
02:48:14.000
oppressor group and when you view things through this lens um it's actually really damaging but what ends
02:48:22.620
up happening is if women or rather i should say feminists do an analysis of society and say how is this
02:48:32.200
impacting women well that invites men or i guess you could say men's rights activists to look through
02:48:40.260
society through the exact same lens that women use but to analyze the ways in which men are disadvantaged
02:48:48.280
which is something that feminists completely uh ignore disregard or don't acknowledge or downplay
02:48:56.360
and so but feminists really don't like that feminists really do not like when men say uh actually uh
02:49:07.220
maybe it's not the case that men throughout all of human history have had it really easy and really
02:49:12.620
great and life's been easy for men and women have had it so hard i mean that's basically the feminist
02:49:19.060
construct and that's that's a framework feminism started men were not like viewing society through
02:49:27.360
this lens ever feminists came and said women have all these grievances xyz some of which were true
02:49:33.980
some of which exaggerated some of which fabricated and so a lot of these things going on with by the way
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if we're doing a comparison of like you might even say my podcast is forwarding some male-centric
02:49:50.140
viewpoints uh any any men who are using this framework the same framework feminists do
02:49:56.660
which is in group gendered disadvantage in society you have uh what's the best way to put this
02:50:07.880
i would say we don't have nearly the same amount of widespread uh societal acceptance or institutional
02:50:17.820
acceptance that does feminism have uh so i mean the gender war you have feminists to blame and then men
02:50:26.180
are doing a reactionary thing of basically like uh yeah feminists have let's say been greedy in
02:50:34.640
overstepping and the the great uh overreaches is perhaps the best way i would put it the great
02:50:43.320
overreaches of feminism uh men are men combating it is a reaction to the feminist overreach
02:50:53.060
i think whether or not it's a reaction i it's annoying when men do it it's annoying when women do it
02:50:59.760
i think it's just victim mindset it's not productive like it's like we're keeping tally
02:51:04.640
at this point and well it's oh sorry continue yeah and i don't think there's anything wrong with
02:51:10.460
pointing out that yeah there are certain ideologies that are pushed heavily in mainstream media as well
02:51:18.380
as educational institutions um but it's like it's just been so tiring lately i feel like it's this back
02:51:24.480
and forth of well as a woman i can't do this and we're not represented in this field as much and
02:51:29.780
then the men respond by saying well you also don't have to go to war and there's a lot of truth to
02:51:35.060
that but it's like it's just so exhausting to hear it's like and feminine feminism has changed it went
02:51:41.420
from women should have a choice which women should have a choice to now i feel like it was like oh you
02:51:47.740
should have a choice you could you should be able to stay home if you want to to now women are being
02:51:51.240
ashamed for wanting to stay at home and feminism and more like no you should go out and do everything
02:51:56.900
a man is doing and it's just like there's no there's so much focus on gender and not enough on
02:52:02.740
the individual it's just so like you said annoying you wanted to go yeah i just want to me like the way
02:52:10.500
i say i'm a feminist to me it's just i feel like women should have the choice to do what they want if
02:52:14.980
you want to stay at home and take care of kids or if that's what you want to do then you should do
02:52:20.060
that if you want to go and be a doctor or surgeon you should be able to do that like for me it's
02:52:25.020
like women should have the choice to do what they want like they the same as men like men can choose
02:52:29.520
whatever they wanted like there was no and the thing is i would say like no women sorry go ahead
02:52:34.740
go ahead i just said men have yeah they do have like they've been they have been through a lot and
02:52:40.240
like but the one thing about them is that they could have always they they had the option to do
02:52:44.280
whatever career they wanted to and i just feel like women should have that as well well i have
02:52:50.420
some gripes with that i there's a couple different gripes um so you said men always had the choice
02:52:55.600
women didn't have the choice but so women would have by the way this idea that women were like
02:52:59.620
full-blown barred from being in professions well no they could have no they could have been
02:53:05.620
400 women were definitely had jobs women worked women were able to make money um now there were
02:53:12.080
some differences here and there and there were societal components but so women had the if we
02:53:17.540
want to talk about choice um women didn't have to work now men never had that choice throughout
02:53:26.620
history and i'd argue men with very rare even in 2026 men can't realistically dating podcasts
02:53:34.920
men can't realistically go out there in the dating market and be like i want to be a stay-at-home
02:53:40.380
husband that shit will not fly with even liberal women liberal women who might have good career
02:53:47.700
ambitions their standard even though they are feminist and believe in 50 equality blah blah blah
02:53:53.340
they will never be in a position by the way when i say never yes there are some women who are
02:53:58.100
okay you want to be the house husband and take care of the kids and i'm gonna go out to work
02:54:01.900
there are some very very few women who are okay with that most women even liberal progressive women
02:54:07.880
their standard is going to be i want a guy who makes as much money as me uh or more he has to earn as
02:54:13.840
much as me or more so there is never really a choice for men to want to actually step back and be
02:54:20.560
more taking care of the household that's a choice women have now in terms of uh careers i think you also
02:54:27.740
you have to have a really strong understanding of what the world looks like 100 200 300 years ago
02:54:35.340
300 years ago women's lack of representation in the workplace you have to remember 300 years ago
02:54:42.740
there wasn't air conditioning there wasn't like uh lunch breaks and hr and there wasn't pregnancy leave
02:54:49.660
there wasn't like oh we're gonna live in a i'm gonna go to work at my corporate job for for some
02:54:57.260
tech company and have all these benefits and they give me free food and there's cupcakes and uh they do
02:55:05.200
there's entertainment at the work and there's like a there's a meditation studio no 100 200 years ago
02:55:13.940
life was pretty difficult life was really hard i don't even think most people if we got men included
02:55:22.540
to be fair if we got transported back 300 years ago and we had to like live and survive
02:55:27.840
we'd be most modern humans would be probably incapable of doing it but also just like whoa this sucks
02:55:37.500
i can't doom scroll on tiktok i just got to sit here in my fucking cabin for what the fuck am i
02:55:43.880
supposed to do like so there i mean that's an entertainment component but so women in terms of
02:55:50.020
oh so unfair uh women themselves either didn't have the physical capacity to do the jobs that were
02:55:57.580
available 100 200 years ago you go 200 years back you think there was hr ladies you think that there was
02:56:03.540
project managers in some uh swanky air-conditioned office job for some tech company no that shit did
02:56:11.780
not exist 100 years ago 200 years ago uh as a man you go into the coal mines maybe sorry maybe 200 years
02:56:19.220
ago that's a bit too far back but uh this idea of like lacking of access to the workplace the workplace
02:56:27.120
was physical it was labor there wasn't coding there wasn't these jobs that required more brain
02:56:35.980
than brawn so it's like i think actually if we go back to say like 1930s 1940s i mean there was coal
02:56:46.280
mining before then and women started getting a bit more involved in in the workplace but let's go back
02:56:51.360
to the 1910s 1920s coal mines you could be the wife and stay home in the comfort of your house
02:56:58.260
take care of the kids or you can go into the coal mines and your lungs completely gigafucked by the
02:57:04.100
time you're 40 and then you're dying of like brutal literally gasping for air for the last five years of
02:57:10.120
your life you can't even fucking breathe you've got black lung i think women it wasn't evil men
02:57:17.960
preventing women from the workplace it was benevolent sacrificial men willing to do the
02:57:24.980
dangerous difficult labor jobs and insulating women and protecting women and i guarantee you if you
02:57:32.200
women had the choice and you we transported you back 100 years ago and the choice was stay at home
02:57:38.060
take care of the house raise the kids or go in the coal mine and there wasn't there wasn't uh what's
02:57:46.000
the org uh the organization that um osha thank you there wasn't fucking osha back then you go in the
02:57:52.640
coal mine you work 12 hours you piss in a corner there's no bathroom breaks no one hour lunch break
02:58:00.560
uh and i don't know you die at 40 for the last five years of your life you can barely breathe your
02:58:07.980
fucking oxygen what is it oxygen level the oh what what what your o2 levels or whatever you're fucking
02:58:14.140
you guys ever had like pneumonia or been sick or some shit fucking covid you're fucking can barely
02:58:20.700
breathe and shit five years of that then you die like shit i think i think women kind of had the
02:58:29.040
good deal now look there's obviously jobs now that are more comfortable and safe and i have kind of a
02:58:35.920
hot take with this um back then i agree exactly with what you're saying it wasn't safe it was there was
02:58:41.540
clear roles notice the time that when feminism really started to begin getting pushed was around
02:58:47.840
the time when comfortable workplaces started evolving sure and yes i believe that it was a
02:58:54.340
psyop by the government that was designed um with paid actors to come in and riot and do things like
02:59:01.260
that to mentally like again like psyop us into thinking that women are equal to men in the workplace
02:59:07.820
which they still the jobs were still not the same back then they still had crazy conditions but
02:59:12.420
it's becoming slowly more accessible and comfortable so to say now you have double taxes
02:59:18.160
you have two parents out of the home i said this last time i was here your kids are in a public system
02:59:24.140
that got taken over by people who god knows what they're teaching it's the perfect destruction of
02:59:30.740
the original american dream or whatever and it's ended us here with like we've lost the plot of
02:59:35.940
feminism there is no more feminism it's just radicalization of evil and here you are however
02:59:41.020
more pushing 50 years later and it's it's a whole new idea it's just not even it's it's exactly what
02:59:47.820
they wanted we're playing right into like liberation of females the over consumption of porn and only fans
02:59:53.600
it was just a setup like i know that's very base tate but that's honestly what i believe because it
02:59:58.620
just makes sense like on the map the history books i think that too because you were saying that it's
03:00:04.740
really it comes down to choice right and i don't think that's necessarily true i don't think that's
03:00:09.680
what feminism is anymore because if it was just about choice it would be okay that sometimes women
03:00:15.660
just choose to do other jobs we just choose to you know be teachers and that's fine but i think it's
03:00:22.660
it's not the quality of opportunity anymore it's equality of outcome like we need to force women into
03:00:29.800
these or we need to lower standards and i'm so against lowering standards so that women can be
03:00:33.360
part of certain jobs it's just a bad idea all around and i think that we've done that in many
03:00:38.940
instances kind of like any idea or any kind of group there's going to be always radicals who push it
03:00:43.240
like you i feel like everyone now always like generalizes like oh um they i think they now think
03:00:49.260
feminists are like misandrist like women yeah they are they are i mean no but i think i think women
03:00:55.220
are equal but i just feel like now like there are feminists who just believe like they we just want
03:00:59.860
a choice and that that's what it is and yeah there are also radicals who push for more who want for
03:01:05.120
more but then that shouldn't just kind of make everyone look down on the whole idea because like
03:01:09.720
the whole basis of it is just women just want a choice and that's how i look at it that's how i
03:01:14.240
think about it and the extremes of it i don't agree with like i feel like we're pushing too hard
03:01:19.000
for all of that like i feel like right now we've made good progress but like now like since the
03:01:24.980
radicals are like pushing so much of it and then everyone just looks down at the whole cause and
03:01:29.200
thinks that it's taken too well we reached the goal so long ago so it's like what are we doing now we
03:01:34.380
reached the goal so long ago you can nuke my job i guess what is the point of what's the point anymore
03:01:40.360
besides to like today split up families and like make these like crazy women but what what is the
03:01:45.560
purpose of feminism today like that's what i'm asking women can work women have choice women
03:01:49.800
have freedom women have the vote so what i guess what is the purpose of feminism so can create
03:01:54.560
division you said that well there's a lot of double standards for women and men there is for me is
03:02:00.700
there's still a lot of double standards like it's not like i'm preaching for anything it's just i say
03:02:04.880
like i'm a feminist i still believe and like when it comes to hooking up and women having high body
03:02:10.000
count versus men having a high body count like you can't legislate men to not have double standards
03:02:16.680
but it basically just feels like in patriarchy that men never face consequences for their actions and
03:02:22.380
because that women are kind of scapegoated like okay for example those consequences in patriarchy
03:02:26.820
yeah no they don't like people minimize what men do all the time are there just is there a justice
03:02:32.300
system that can operate under a patriarchy yeah and even wait wait wait this i actually believe
03:02:41.980
there there's this concept of the women women are wonderful effect uh i actually believe that
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typically even in a patriarchy which i to some degree reject but it depends what how we define
03:02:53.780
patriarchy i actually think society is gynocentric uh you actually see for example when it comes to being
03:02:59.380
held accountable if we look at crime for example uh women actually get let off way easier their
03:03:06.420
studies on this women receive far less harsh punishments when it comes to crime they're much
03:03:11.840
much less much more likely to either get probation their their charges reduced uh if they do get charged
03:03:19.600
with an equivalent crime they're going to serve less time their prison conditions uh prison conditions
03:03:24.740
for women are much better much more safe than the conditions for men so i mean this idea that men
03:03:31.180
aren't held accountable if we're in terms of are you talking about crime no i'm talking about like
03:03:36.480
socially like if a guy complains it's seen as oh he's just speaking his mind when a girl does it it's
03:03:41.780
seen it's nagging like even like with kendrick and drake when they when they went at it with their
03:03:46.500
rap beef everyone was praising them but the minute taylor swift writes like a slight diss track against
03:03:51.460
another woman it's why can't she act her own age nobody was telling those guys they need to act their
03:03:55.560
own age like it's just stuff like that like hey women are the hold on women are the fan the consumers
03:04:01.320
of female pop music so that's women who are being critical of other women men don't know or give a
03:04:08.500
fuck about the beef that taylor swift has with whoever what are you talking about how would that be
03:04:13.480
evidence of the patriarchy the evil patriarchy the men or uh have a double standard when it comes to
03:04:20.500
male and female pop stars what men don't know about the taylor swift beef what i didn't know
03:04:28.160
about it i don't know it was just an example about how like men like women always get told to act
03:04:33.500
their age but men don't like that was just the example i mean i reject the premise i've never heard
03:04:38.500
of i mean does doesn't like anyone who acts kind of immature get told to like ask their age like i i
03:04:44.380
don't know i've never really i feel like people minimize what men do a lot of emphasis on younger men
03:04:48.700
to perform right i think there is i think that if you're at the age let's say probably from like
03:04:53.920
19 to 26 i think there's a way heavier emphasis in society to overachieve to have performance anxiety
03:05:01.880
versus like a woman who's just cruising she's like oh you know i'll start like beauty school a little
03:05:05.840
bit later on in life and be done it's like a man might be like shitting his pants because he's thinking
03:05:09.720
all these extra things like how am i going to provide how am i going to live up like i think it's
03:05:13.260
honestly that's just the way it is no i would agree with that i i live with it i have a younger
03:05:18.760
brother like it's he the pressure on him was astronomically different than the pressure on
03:05:22.900
me and i'm the eldest sibling well like there's also a double standard where like i feel like when
03:05:26.260
men are a little bit quirky no one cares like they're like oh that's just steve but when like
03:05:29.920
a girl's quirky it's like she's annoying she's evil she's this that and the third like
03:05:33.820
is this from personal experience because i don't see i've never been called annoying for me
03:05:38.820
i mean i see people like like they make povs on tiktok all the time like mocking women that
03:05:44.240
are a little bit quirky is this your reference right now i mean i'm just giving an example you
03:05:48.080
guys can't nitpick like every example like i give like i feel like you're not giving good examples like
03:05:52.340
i feel like if you look at body count like women with high body count are disregarded more than men
03:05:56.680
with high body count like women's sexuality is still yeah it's not the same as how men's sexuality is
03:06:01.380
looked at like i'm bringing examples of double standards i would look at that like sexuality most
03:06:06.200
importantly like men can express this however they want but women are still judged greatly if
03:06:10.940
you're going to name a stereotype then you have to have an example to back it up with
03:06:14.860
you know yeah yeah well you guys got mad in my example i don't think we're getting mad i think it's
03:06:20.480
it's just a lot of generalizations that are one big and then two when we ask you to give an example
03:06:26.280
it's like well this one time this happened and it's like okay well that was one experience like and
03:06:31.360
we all feel you are also talking about your experience what when have i cited about like
03:06:36.260
like multiple girls on here have like talked about personal lighting an experience so when
03:06:40.220
did i say so there you go splitting hairs again like but she's not trying to convince us of something
03:06:45.060
you're yeah i'm having a conversation i'm asking questions i'm asking you're saying like this is my
03:06:50.040
experience or don't you guys think this and we're all saying no yeah unfortunately not so not a mean
03:06:54.140
way it's just it's vague and there's not much to back up relate to it that's okay sometimes you'll have
03:07:00.160
an experience or um something that you believe in that maybe other people won't have that same
03:07:04.860
experience or won't you know agree with the generalization um to talk about what you were
03:07:10.860
talking about the the pressure that's put on men to perform and provide and protect and all that
03:07:14.720
i like i kind of feel like if anything what modern feminism has done is give women that same type of
03:07:23.400
pressure too because if anything i feel like i don't really have a choice like i have to go to work
03:07:27.860
now like i i can't afford my i have to like take care of myself and hope that one day i marry
03:07:34.720
someone that makes enough to provide for the entire family but that's not the case for most women
03:07:39.220
so if anything i feel like in that regard it's kind of taken our choice away because before
03:07:45.380
yeah like yeah i guess that was my point she makes a fantastic point you mentioned choice right
03:07:52.200
uh so yes there's more freedom for women to pursue various professions and making money but uh she is
03:08:00.100
right that it has taken the choice away from women who might have otherwise been inclined to
03:08:04.880
uh stay home like that choice is gone for 97 percent of women because of the economic reality and by the
03:08:14.500
way i'm not saying that just to be clear i'm fine with i think it's fine that well it's not just fine i
03:08:20.160
agree that women should have the choice but we have to what are the consequences uh even with good
03:08:27.720
things there are perhaps unintended or negative consequences in this case when it comes to women's
03:08:34.240
uh equal participation in the workforce and look there's other economic components to why this is
03:08:42.020
the case but if you double the labor pool you are uh corporations love that uh because it drives it
03:08:54.620
drives wages down and so now we live in a society where historically you could support a family on one
03:09:00.580
income and typically the job that could support a family wasn't it wasn't like you know you're some
03:09:07.680
high-powered attorney you could have like a farm in fact i think perhaps even historically you could
03:09:13.440
even have a minimum wage or close to minimum wage job and support a family like wife kids wife doesn't
03:09:20.360
have to work on that uh income and so look i'm not saying women shouldn't be able to work but
03:09:27.200
it is the case that through feminism uh that is perhaps an unintended consequence that you've taken
03:09:34.560
the choice away from women who otherwise did want to just hey i don't want to work i want to stay at
03:09:39.020
home have some kids raise the kids now it's like you force you're sort of forcing the women to to go
03:09:46.780
to work i guess um because you can't the economic reality for most people you can't have a family and
03:09:54.120
raise kids on just one income for most families i mean if you're a really high earner then you can
03:10:00.260
but uh it has taken another choice away how do we reverse it i wanted to ask that with like the
03:10:06.700
sign up how do we reverse what we've done like i don't think you honestly the only way to reverse
03:10:11.320
is women don't work again like it's it's either or like yeah we had an unintended consequence but
03:10:16.400
at least women have the choice now but like it's either women never worked and only men did and they
03:10:21.920
just were the ones who provided or now women have the choice and maybe i mean i'm sorry for the women
03:10:26.240
who don't want to work and they do but then there's also women who want to work and who also
03:10:30.100
i honestly i like the pressure of having to do well in society because why should i be any different
03:10:35.340
from a man like men have the pressure and they have to perform well i also want the pressure to
03:10:39.700
perform i think you can do well in society without having to having a job like a an actual job i think
03:10:46.400
you can be like i think women that raise their children to be good people are doing the best thing
03:10:52.280
that they can for society that's also like we should also be uplifting people that choose to
03:10:56.460
do that but again you said like well at least we have the choice it's there's no choice i have to
03:11:01.200
work and it doesn't empower me i don't feel good that i have to like slave myself every week at work
03:11:05.960
i i do it because i need this woman don't work then like that's at this point i couldn't answer
03:11:11.300
now that like all this is has happened i don't know what we would do at this point and because
03:11:16.680
we're in today's economy too i don't know how you would change that so i i really don't think that
03:11:23.580
there is currently a solution i think there is none once the toothpaste is out of the tube you can't
03:11:29.760
really put it back um i i think there could be societal changes in the future because of uh automation
03:11:37.100
robots ai where we could potentially be moving towards or even get to a post scarcity society where
03:11:46.200
you basically nobody has to work i mean i guess people could still work but i'm not
03:11:51.320
but this could be decades or even much further down the road so i mean that's a bit too far in the
03:11:57.300
future i mean what i think at least short term is uh perhaps less of a negative sentiment towards
03:12:06.120
motherhood it does seem like there's like i think the propaganda that women receive is more career
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career career career not even necessarily saying that that that's bad but there's like sometimes a
03:12:21.260
corresponding uh motherhood wife family bad so i think that there should be at least as much
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maybe propaganda is another right word but there should be as much push perhaps for women to
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re-examine having a family perhaps a bit younger not waiting until you're in your late 20s or 30s to
03:12:47.580
have kids get married start a family etc we have a chat coming through thank you justin
03:12:53.720
uh hello what the fuck based justin donated 100 thank you man appreciate it c3 nailed it women in the
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workplace has destroyed the concept of the nuclear family instead women are fed into the college soft
03:13:08.460
science career scam avoiding the trad role at all costs more c3 thank you justin that's that's what
03:13:16.920
i'm talking about like i think that feminism has we were we were sold a propaganda of feminism where
03:13:24.460
it's like empowerment and freedom and here we are all these years later where it's not like i said it's
03:13:29.600
not feminism anymore it's it's just evil and the literal outcome has been the polar opposite of what
03:13:34.940
the women were fighting for way back in the beginning and like i said yes nuclear family is done it's
03:13:39.820
destroying now we have double income your kids are being raised by the government and public funded
03:13:44.120
schools and it's it's honestly just like think about like the happiness levels and the cortisol levels
03:13:49.380
and everything it's it's it's all planned and intended and i just believe that i think the outcome
03:13:55.420
the end outcome is is more a lesbian relationships which have a hot hey listen higher domestic violence
03:14:04.180
okay kids being raised to take on what their parents think gender roles swapping and just the complete
03:14:11.120
transformation of society to like this weird dystopian place where we've completely lost the plot that god
03:14:15.920
put for us way back in the beginning well how about this uh who here is currently in college
03:14:19.540
show of hands who's in college college college college okay you three um what do you guys uh
03:14:26.120
prioritize more for yourself and i'm not speaking i i guess looking long term a little bit
03:14:32.680
do you prioritize uh one day having a really killer career great career or do you prioritize having a
03:14:42.440
family a husband and children which one would you prioritize higher um
03:14:52.440
am i allowed to say that i prioritize them equally uh sure you can yeah i would say that i prioritize
03:15:01.640
them equally but like now right now is a time in my life where like what i'm prioritizing the most is
03:15:07.520
just like doing the things that make me happy and like can i just uh tilt your mic down a little bit
03:15:12.100
for me okay what about you um i think like adding on to what she said it really depends on like
03:15:18.920
what part of time i'm in like right now i'm obviously very focused on like trying to
03:15:23.840
get my degree in my career starting but then hopefully later on in the future like my priorities
03:15:29.020
will shift to be having like a family and marriage but as of right now like um well i understand right
03:15:34.640
now obviously you're you're in college yeah but if we're like whole life in totality do you think
03:15:42.960
do you uphold like career and academic achievement over family kids husband um i think i'll have you
03:15:52.240
tilt your mic down please yeah i think i'll pick family and kids if we're speaking long term over
03:15:57.800
career um but yeah okay what about you um equal i want a successful career and i want a husband and
03:16:06.480
i don't know if i want kids so okay what would you say women should pick what do i think women should
03:16:13.000
pick family family husband children not in that order or anything but the that should that should
03:16:22.840
be a priority over career what's the point of getting married if you're not gonna have kids
03:16:27.780
love i want a partner for life but you can just live with them there are some people that are
03:16:34.160
infertile too marriage is more than just just having kids you should be open to procreation
03:16:39.320
also i can have kids maybe it's our upbringing differences say your last part again that you
03:16:44.300
said the last phrase what i don't know just something i didn't hear what you said said something
03:16:48.320
about adoption you can adopt yeah because she says people were infertile so i said those people can
03:16:52.020
adopt so i can't have kids because of i have a metal spine does that make me not any less interested
03:16:59.460
in getting married to my current partner no my question is just what specifically like what's
03:17:04.060
the difference between getting married versus just living with each other like that's kind of what i'm
03:17:07.720
trying to get at like what is a commitment a commitment until death do us part but how is it still
03:17:12.800
not a commitment if you guys are like in a long-term relationship and living together
03:17:15.900
it's not the same level mentally yeah maybe we've just seen different because i remember earlier
03:17:21.020
you mentioned your parents are arranged marriage and i think that changes the picture a lot for what
03:17:25.180
we've seen growing up but i think like marriage is really important in a woman's life um and it's
03:17:29.840
not just about like coexisting and like it's not transactional if that's what i'm trying to say
03:17:34.420
it's about love and it's not and like yeah like what's the point of having um a marriage if you don't
03:17:39.620
have like a job is what you're saying but like what's the point of having like a job and slaving yourself
03:17:43.300
at work if you don't have a nice family to come home to if you're just alone and miserable every
03:17:46.580
day another point i want to make is like we are all in college or college age like we're all like
03:17:52.780
in our like early 20s late teens like we are still figuring out like everything about life like what
03:17:59.320
we want like who we are and everything if we're putting all that energy into like finding a lifelong
03:18:03.600
partner we're not putting any of that energy into like ourselves and like doing the things that we
03:18:08.240
love and like becoming more and more ourself every single day just a i mean people can your
03:18:15.120
lifelong partner should support you and you doing those things too not just it shouldn't be one or
03:18:19.180
the other no i know i don't think so either really quick just on the economic financial components you
03:18:28.520
know both people having to work i mean to me do you guys think that this makes sense let's say there's
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a man and woman they're together they're married and they they have a kid and the woman has a job
03:18:42.760
and she makes 40 50 000 a year the man makes 100 000 a year uh let's say the woman makes 50 000
03:18:51.000
and they have two kids child care for the two kids like to send them off to child care facility or
03:18:57.600
whatever let's say it's 40 000 a year to do that do you think that makes sense economically no not
03:19:07.900
financially like so okay she makes an extra so if she makes 50 000 the child care is 40 000 she ends up
03:19:14.080
making 10 000 just on the economic basis alone i think that kind of makes no sense of course a woman
03:19:21.780
can make more than that she makes 100 000 and the child care is 40 000 yeah i also think it's important
03:19:27.080
for like a woman or a mother to bond with her children and raise some yeah i think a mother's
03:19:32.060
going to do way better than some fucking minimum wage 20 an hour yeah consuela 100 something taking
03:19:39.780
care taking care of the kids um wait really quick i guess getting back to the origination of all this
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is the three-fifths vote thing uh so actually i think we should just do away entirely with uh what's
03:19:53.800
the right term it's uh universal suffrage for men and women uh i think we should maybe move to a system
03:20:04.580
where uh the vote would be accessible by both men and women but we move to a system where you either
03:20:12.640
need some sort of stake in the country or you have children uh maybe you own a house or you
03:20:18.560
opt into military service i think that should be the way you get the vote i agree with that i don't
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think just okay you turn 18 you get the vote i think that's kind of bullshit also sort of tying into
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the three-fifths thing uh i think there is an argument to be made here that women have secured the
03:20:39.520
vote for over 100 years without any duty or responsibility to this country men have responsibility
03:20:45.720
men have duty women have no duty uh so i think there's an inequality unfairness that exists there
03:20:52.060
which should be truthfully um should either be remediated remediated is that the right word
03:20:59.560
should be cured either by uh making women subject to military conscription
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or truthfully acknowledging that there is this inequality that exists i think there's a compelling
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argument that we if we're not if we're going to make a determination that no we are definitely not
03:21:19.820
putting women uh in the in the selective service we are not allowing that to ever happen i think there's
03:21:28.180
actually a compelling argument that under that circumstance if we make a final determination
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no women are not going to be drafted yeah i think there we can probably argue to just take away
03:21:38.220
women's right to vote but that under that circumstance i would assume that we earn our right to vote
03:21:44.840
everyone earns their right to vote through the duty of serving your country right is that is that well so
03:21:51.320
i there's other examples like um no taxation with without representation so yes men and women
03:21:57.240
are taxed however actually if interestingly enough uh if you look over the lifetime of both men
03:22:02.960
and women men pay into the tax system there's a net benefit to the tax system through men women
03:22:08.680
actually take more from the tax system than they put in so i mean there's there's a bit of an
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argument there that can be made but um and then also like yes uh are are women subject to the laws of
03:22:23.980
this country if they commit a crime are they subject to the laws just as men are yes however on this
03:22:29.220
specific dynamic as it relates to military conscription women are completely exempt from it men have a
03:22:35.700
duty women don't in order for men to be so in order for men to be able to vote it is tied to a duty to
03:22:44.000
the country so yeah are you saying that because there are legal repercussions which would preclude you
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from voting if you didn't sign up for the selective service as a man so if as a man if you do not
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register for the selective service you basically essentially can't register to the vote you can't
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vote you don't have any voting rights as a man unless you make yourself subject to and register for
03:23:09.860
the selective service even if you didn't register for the selective service the government could still
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mandate in a military conscription circumstance but that's to draft you that's not unique to the to
03:23:20.420
registering for the selective service though right because if you if you were to commit any crime and
03:23:25.280
you go to jail or prison then you can't vote because you're in prison so like i don't know that it's
03:23:30.680
unique to that and i also just i'm very hesitant to agree with you just because i don't trust the
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government enough to allow them to dictate what groups of people can and cannot vote i think they
03:23:40.760
already do can people under 18 vote well i think there are lines that you draw why can't we draw
03:23:48.000
the legal's vote well that's debatable actually well technically no it's all rigged anyways but
03:23:55.940
it's like it's just but i mean look uh my personal position is not we i i personally as an egalitarian
03:24:05.220
i don't think that we should take the vote away from women but we should definitely make them subject
03:24:09.980
to military conscription i think we should definitely draft women what do you think
03:24:16.120
um what do you think about should we draft women you'd be a good soldier
03:24:27.680
well realistically speaking like nobody wants to go to war so
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i'd say no like i don't think we should we we shouldn't what draft woman in the war but so
03:24:42.200
i understand that war is bad ideally there never is war but knowing that sometimes no matter how strong
03:24:51.160
our society and values there could be a belligerent external nation that wants to invade us that wants
03:24:57.660
to attack us that is causing havoc on the world stage so either we need to defend ourselves or
03:25:03.800
we need to intervene in some external conflict that you know who knows
03:25:07.800
um in any case so knowing that governments and nations and states are never going to
03:25:15.600
uh demilitarize they're never going to revoke their ability to call upon and sometimes force
03:25:23.300
its citizenry to um you know be part of the military wouldn't you agree that
03:25:33.040
if the current situation is men can be forced to go to war shouldn't we also force women
03:25:39.520
if you believe in equality i think so well you have i mean it would be an entailment of
03:25:45.560
if you believe in equality you would basically have to agree do feminists fight for that today
03:25:50.460
i'm curious definitely don't then what is about equality well feminist feminism is not about
03:25:54.340
equality it's about selective well i want to be equality on the surface i'm saying obviously it's
03:25:59.360
not anymore feminism is in its most charitable sense i give the worst definition but
03:26:03.880
it's women's advocacy now there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy but it's definitely not about
03:26:10.280
equality because it won't in instances where a form of equality could somehow negatively impact
03:26:18.540
or detriment women or burden women feminist will absolutely fight against achieving said equality
03:26:26.140
equality if like i said it comes to their detriment in some way exactly i think that they also fight
03:26:31.960
for things that do come to our detriment as well like they say that you know doing this will will
03:26:38.720
make us more equal and stuff but and it will give us more choice but we've seen that it doesn't do
03:26:43.720
that it does the opposite so like there's unintended consequences to some of what a lot of feminists
03:26:49.620
have been pushing and yeah i think there's that side of it as well but any further thoughts on that
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should we draft women is it still a no i think yeah still a no why is that well do you believe in
03:27:03.100
equality i do but i feel like things just aren't equal in reality and oh what do you mean they're
03:27:10.900
not equal well well i feel like in some aspects i can't think of any off the top of my head men just
03:27:18.820
have more like men or women just have more of an advantage in some so we should like we should even
03:27:24.940
bar women from volunteering to join the military well if they want to that's a personal thing see
03:27:29.320
now that's different but but if the argument is men are better soldiers because of just their natural
03:27:34.820
physical strength then shouldn't we just bar women from joining the military or becoming police officers
03:27:40.040
or because if they want to but if they want to they women can still build that physical strength
03:27:44.480
but biologically speaking yes men are built to be more muscular and like more fit for war hence
03:27:49.220
that they're more advantaged if they were to but so why can't we force women to be soldiers then
03:27:55.460
in the same way that we can force men to be soldiers
03:27:59.140
well you can but it just doesn't happen and it's just never been but maybe it should
03:28:04.780
i'm in favor of it well you can make it happen then but it almost seems like i'm more of a
03:28:11.920
feminist than you are in this regard well i never said i was exactly a feminist you believe in equality
03:28:17.880
to then sure yeah i'd say so why not in this regard not maybe not equality i believe in equity
03:28:24.920
so what is equity in this situation well what would be equitable well like you said if a woman is like
03:28:32.540
voluntarily wanting to do like labor and like military work then go ahead like by all means
03:28:38.020
go for it men can also volunteer but so what's the equitable solution
03:28:47.040
because men don't want to be forced to go to war and die
03:29:02.520
isn't it like giving someone resources in accordance with their needs instead of giving
03:29:09.780
the same amount of resources to everyone blank like blank slate or whatever i don't know well if
03:29:14.840
women can volunteer for the military then i can't actually see an objection to forcing women into the
03:29:21.660
military in fact i mean sure we should equalize combat participation too because even even though women
03:29:28.940
can volunteer they overwhelmingly are not in combat roles now look you want the realistic answer uh men
03:29:36.380
fare much better in combat they're more physically attuned to being able to have the capacity
03:29:43.340
to uh be effective and have lethal lethal ability but again i don't know i guess explain the equity thing
03:29:51.820
should we just draft the women i think we should just no we should just draft them do it well
03:30:01.680
so maybe that girl oh sorry go ahead no i don't have anything to say oh well she was saying that
03:30:08.080
uh she didn't want to get rid of women's right to vote but she wanted three-fifths
03:30:12.080
so maybe if men have a duty that women don't men have responsibility that women don't i mean look
03:30:20.400
maybe we don't fully get rid of women's right to vote but she's she's saying that maybe three-fifths
03:30:27.920
no disagree what do you think see you shaking your head by the way this is just a thought experiment here
03:30:34.240
i mean when would a draft a draft ever happen like honestly like that's the thing i feel like if you
03:30:40.180
want if you want equal rights and it has to be equal then yeah a woman should be drafted as well
03:30:44.120
well i mean i i don't know how that'd actually be relevant so it might never even happen but
03:30:48.820
yeah that's what i'm saying like it's never going to happen but like if it is like that's the thing
03:30:52.020
like if we're fighting for equal rights then we should do the same like as what men are doing
03:30:57.380
and like i agree with that like one should be drafted right yeah well then that would just be a
03:31:03.060
separate conversation though what is the likelihood that the united states would enter into a military
03:31:08.100
conflict where a draft would be necessary required that's beside the point but so you are in favor of
03:31:14.500
uh the draft for women military conscription forcing women to i mean we force men we i right we do force
03:31:24.180
men or i mean we theoretically could force men so we should theoretically should be able to force women
03:31:30.340
too right yeah okay so you're on board with the program i wasn't on you're on board why is that
03:31:36.660
why is it why are we considering just like no one being forced i understand people are like oh we need
03:31:42.660
to have the military we need but like why is that not a consideration like men shouldn't be for no one
03:31:47.780
should be forced to join the military i wasn't born i wasn't i didn't ask to be born into this country
03:31:53.380
like why i don't think that's right i don't like war i don't like the idea of it or i don't think it's
03:31:57.940
necessary like some people believe why not just abolish that whole thing like no one has to well
03:32:04.020
i mean if you lived in a sort of idealized utopian world or society that might be possible but i don't
03:32:10.180
think it's ever something that will go away it's not something that's unique to the united states
03:32:14.900
almost every single country can call upon its uh citizenry and force them uh into the military
03:32:21.620
through military conscription i don't think any government or nation or state is going to give
03:32:26.820
up the power to forcibly raise a military to defend itself um and i think just all platitudes
03:32:33.780
about ending selective service just seems like a bit of a waste of time and energy it's kind of like
03:32:39.380
we might as well just say well there shouldn't be war there shouldn't be okay well there shouldn't
03:32:45.060
be crime but because there is there shouldn't be crime however because there is crime we should
03:32:50.980
have police officers we should have a prison system we should have a justice system that can bring
03:32:55.780
justice to those who commit and perpetrate crimes right but crime is bad nobody should be murdered
03:33:01.300
correct right but people do commit murders people do are we gonna i feel like if people didn't have
03:33:08.500
to do it maybe maybe the issue isn't like forcing people to do it but giving people more incentives
03:33:13.860
to sure yeah they do that maybe that's the issue but they do that though you more incentives like it's
03:33:20.740
not enough obviously but could there be a situation where i mean there definitely could be a situation
03:33:26.580
where even beyond just incentive well either the incentives would be have to be so immense that it
03:33:33.940
would be economically unfeasible like yes okay you could give soldiers a million dollars per year
03:33:40.340
and people would be fighting tooth and nail to become soldiers like there would probably be say there's a
03:33:45.780
limit as to how many people uh the military can uh can have in its ranks uh and you just paid
03:33:53.380
soldiers a million dollars but i don't think economically that'd probably be feasible to do
03:33:57.460
is that the only option like i don't know there are other incentives we can everybody's smart to come
03:34:02.500
up with things i think they do that you pay less taxes i don't know you yeah you get free school
03:34:07.780
yeah you give them free education already well yeah they do there's those incentives do exist but
03:34:14.180
there are definitely situations where you probably will not i mean historically there's been situations
03:34:20.500
where not just in the united states but other countries you have to force the men you literally
03:34:26.420
abduct them in the street man if you got you guys upset with this ice you should see what they're
03:34:31.780
doing in ukraine they're driving military police driving around ukraine and no nobody's here you don't
03:34:37.460
hear about it because it's men uh they're literally abducting men in the street dragging them into
03:34:43.060
vans they get some like base level military um training and then they ship them off to the front
03:34:50.260
line and they're just cannon fodder and it's like uh yeah governments do that that's not okay
03:34:57.540
that's that's wrong i don't agree but i look so i guess back to the point i think women we should draft
03:35:02.500
them and you can keep the vote or we have to look if if women don't get uh through the law they don't
03:35:09.620
get uh forced to at least in the united states to have to register with selective service within the
03:35:15.860
next by 2030 i think we got to really start looking at women's right to vote because you guys have had
03:35:22.660
the right to vote for 100 years without any duty to this country i think it's about time we have a serious
03:35:27.540
conversation about this do you think that's because women didn't have the right to vote before
03:35:32.980
maybe it's like uh well we didn't let them vote from before so now they don't have to give up well
03:35:38.580
they're they're actually women who were who were actually anti-suffragettes who were against uh wanting
03:35:45.060
the right to vote because they thought uh if they did get the right to vote it would open them up to the
03:35:49.700
same burdens and duties and responsibilities that men had uh of course uh i guess women quite
03:35:56.420
luckily managed to secure a right without any corresponding responsibility and that's sort
03:36:01.620
of the genesis of feminism secure as much privilege and right as possible without any duty or responsibility
03:36:12.340
i mean i don't i don't really vote and i get a lot of for it but i feel like a lot of people
03:36:17.300
are justin donated 100 no one needs female soldiers only american married households with
03:36:25.620
children can vote in u.s elections all incentives aligned cultural carnage recedes simple as
03:36:34.900
it's not a bad point i don't disagree my position is i women should continue to be able to vote but
03:36:42.820
they should have to register with selective service just as men do you're saying that because
03:36:48.180
if you if a man does not register to vote they i mean to um if they don't register for the military
03:36:54.580
they can't vote i don't think that's okay i feel like if you that's messed up it's not an okay system
03:37:00.900
i don't that's how it is so either i mean we either i guess another solution would be to completely
03:37:05.300
get rid of the draft but i think that that's i think that's less likely than having women become
03:37:11.940
subject to the draft so uh look i think hey women keep your right to vote but y'all gotta
03:37:21.700
y'all gotta get drafted y'all gotta be subject to the draft anyways yeah i mean i feel like it should
03:37:27.460
be fair y'all are some badass women you guys can do it i believe in you i'm more of a feminist than you
03:37:34.100
guys you guys don't want to get drafted i've never claimed to be a feminist i guarantee you
03:37:38.660
though if there was something trying to be passed in uh congress or whatever to equalize
03:37:45.380
the draft all these feminists all these feminist organizations are gonna fight that
03:37:50.340
shit yeah to the death wait i'm gonna play devil's advocate for a second yeah sure you just said that
03:37:55.300
all those jobs right that are predominantly run by men would not be done as good as women right
03:38:00.980
like you said that those jobs like such as like blue collar work or like the clips that you just
03:38:08.180
showed that women couldn't do as good of a job as men right so do you think women could do as good
03:38:13.620
of a job as men in the military and how is that benefiting our military doesn't matter why not it
03:38:19.860
doesn't matter because it's all it all comes down to equality and also women can volunteer look
03:38:25.620
ultimately even if we did draft women it would be the same standard that currently exists with
03:38:30.900
the volunteer military force so even when women do join the military overwhelmingly they are not
03:38:36.660
placed in combat situations they're not placed on the front line uh there are perhaps some examples
03:38:42.340
you can point to and there are women who die in the military but uh women there there are plenty
03:38:46.820
of jobs in the military that do not involve being frontline soldiers there's a lot of
03:38:52.020
women shouldn't be frontline soldiers well honestly look for if we're if we're elevating equality above
03:38:58.740
all else yes put make women frontline soldiers but then how is that effect like how is that it would
03:39:03.540
be less effective yes it would be bad yeah but if military if look if the virtue if the value here
03:39:10.420
is equality above all else then look ultimately my point is if women have a privilege or a right
03:39:20.580
right that men have a duty or responsibility in order to have said right if women have access to
03:39:27.220
said right they should have a corresponding duty or responsibility so why don't you agree with my
03:39:33.700
take on the three-fifths thing oh i was actually saying that arguably if if the status quo is going to
03:39:40.100
continue where women just enjoy rights and privileges without responsibility then actually perhaps her
03:39:46.340
position is compelling in the sense that maybe a woman shouldn't have quite as much of a say as man
03:39:52.100
why should women be able to vote for people and vote to send us to war when they have no they don't
03:39:58.820
face the same level of uh peril that men potentially do sounds like equity
03:40:06.740
like you disagree with that i'm no no no no so like what you were saying like it like three-fifths
03:40:11.060
itself to me sounds better than not having the right to vote so like but like if uh if we're
03:40:17.380
being stereotypical and we're making generalizations and we're saying women should be you know like
03:40:22.340
stay-at-home moms or whatever okay i'm sorry brian um no you're good okay i just have that oh okay i
03:40:27.300
thought i was saying something annoying okay so like if we're making generalizations um and women don't
03:40:32.580
contribute as much as like men do and specifically in combat situations um i don't know the statistics but i
03:40:40.020
mean i think three-fifths sounds good and i'm not gonna lie i don't know what the commander in chief
03:40:44.340
fully does or all our military operations or you know like the whole thing in ukraine i had no idea
03:40:49.220
that was going on and i feel kind of weird being a citizen a female citizen having to vote i haven't
03:40:54.100
voted because i'm subject to indiscriminate um empathy i don't know and that for that reason i kind
03:40:59.700
of like the three-fifths idea when you brought it up i like the spirit behind it that's not the society
03:41:04.500
we live in i can empathize with it um and you could argue it's actually the centrist position too because
03:41:09.380
there's people that want to full-on repeal the 19th amendment i'm not even saying that you know
03:41:13.700
well i don't know if you're here when i'm saying this i think we should just get rid of universal
03:41:16.900
suffrage in general so i think we claw back the right to vote from both men and women because you
03:41:22.340
have a bunch of like really low information voters society you just huh how would our society function
03:41:28.500
if nobody you have okay so there there's pathways to getting the vote so that would be military service
03:41:34.500
which would be available and open to both men and women uh so there that would be one pathway
03:41:41.540
you'd have to be a stakeholder in some sort of way you would uh maybe if you have children that's
03:41:46.420
another way maybe there's a civil service component where maybe you're not you don't join the military
03:41:50.820
but you do some form of civil service for the country but uh yeah or you could just you i was gonna
03:41:57.540
say raise the voting age maybe that's one option 25 potentially prefrontal cortex blah blah blah
03:42:03.780
not fucking bullshit but um yeah i mean i think uh i don't know if like our founding fathers this is
03:42:10.660
really what they had in mind where just we had this degree of universal suffrage uh so so what do you
03:42:19.860
think they had in mind oh um people who had like a stake in the country i think what was it originally
03:42:27.220
like landowners or something oh yeah yeah so maybe somebody who owns i just maybe you could own a
03:42:34.340
house or maybe you have if you have children maybe it could be like a a household vote or something like
03:42:40.180
that one household gets a vote um you could and and through military service i agree i feel like there
03:42:48.580
are a lot of uneducated voters and i that's why i don't vote because i looked at ballots i was reading
03:42:54.020
certain i was like i don't know what this is talking about i'm not even gonna vote because
03:42:59.060
i feel like that's unfair well yeah you have really low information voters and the way they
03:43:03.620
word things too is like they're counting on you to misinterpret what they're saying or they're
03:43:08.500
being very tricky so things need to change them in a lot of ways um okay we'll move off of that but
03:43:16.660
by the way just to be clear i'm fine with y'all keeping the right to vote women should be able to vote
03:43:20.980
but hey let's have a conversation y'all should be drafted that's my position um let's see where
03:43:28.260
were we going next i don't know we let's get back maybe dating would be good wait um who here uh you
03:43:34.900
were born in china is that correct anybody else like born not in the united states i mean i'm born
03:43:40.900
in england but you're not you don't live here so no i don't live here uh anybody else anyone born
03:43:46.340
somewhere else okay um to uh you're indian and you're indian is that correct do you get do you
03:43:53.940
feel strong cultural ties to your heritage or your culture like indian culture yeah because there's
03:43:59.700
like so many different ethnic groups in india since it's a subcontinent and i'm i'm Punjabi uh
03:44:04.820
personally and like the big stereotype with Punjabis is you'll always know because they'll always tell
03:44:08.820
you because we're really prideful people okay what about you um i mean i feel a lot of like
03:44:15.700
pride for my culture but honestly like my parents had a love marriage and they were and they both came
03:44:20.980
here when they're really young and they also i don't know any like indian languages they spoke
03:44:25.700
fully english in our house like i know a lot of immigrant parents they'll speak their native
03:44:30.100
language in their house and their kids are raised up on it no my parents spoke spoke fully english sure
03:44:34.980
and also they were religious but they didn't we never went to temple much like i don't consider
03:44:39.300
myself religious at all so i don't i'm not super indian so you moved to the united states when you're
03:44:45.140
five yeah okay and so you have chinese citizenship yes but you don't have u.s citizenship yet i don't
03:44:52.100
and i don't plan on getting it oh you don't plan on getting it but i could have already gotten it
03:44:56.100
because i'm 18 already but i don't plan on naturalizing so oh why is that because i do have plans
03:45:00.820
to return back to china and like if i were to naturalize every time i go back would be like
03:45:05.540
an hassle to have to get a visa and get approved but then right now where i'm sitting with a chinese
03:45:10.340
citizenship like a chinese passport with a green card it gives me the freedom to just travel freely
03:45:15.220
between two countries so i can go back to china for like two months which i did and like come back
03:45:19.540
and be perfectly fine not have to sign any paperwork or anything if you had to estimate like in terms of
03:45:25.460
so you're 18 in terms of total time spent in each country what would be the like the ratio the
03:45:33.860
breakdown yeah i'd say like because i go i come here for school like the reason why my family came
03:45:38.660
to the u.s was so um my siblings and i could get an american education uh so i'd say like for 10 months
03:45:44.900
out of the year i'm here and then like the summer time i go back to my since you were five well not
03:45:49.620
every summer sometimes in summers like i have plans and like i have like tutoring like i have like
03:45:54.420
extracurriculars but when i have the time yeah pretty much i'm still pretty connected to the
03:45:58.180
culture over there if that's what you're saying like i'm fluent in my language yeah you speak
03:46:01.380
mandarin yeah but you uh you live there entirely for your first five years yes yes and then you came
03:46:07.860
here and you spend most of the time here in the united states yeah after that after my yeah after i
03:46:14.020
moved here i'm trying to think if you spend like one to two months
03:46:16.500
maybe it's like 70 30 percent is that fair to say 70 70 30 70 30 percent 70 percent of the united
03:46:25.940
states and your parents don't plan to naturalize to the united states either they don't either they
03:46:31.300
are just waiting for us to finish school and then they're also going back to china okay are your
03:46:36.260
parents like diplomats or something or what do they do um what do you mean like for work or yeah yeah for
03:46:42.500
work well my mom she's a stay-at-home mom she doesn't do anything and my dad works at apple
03:46:46.740
at apple okay he's like a software engineer or uh no he does something like an hr but he um
03:46:53.860
yeah pretty much he's the only one that works in our family and he's supporting yeah i have an older
03:46:58.260
sister who goes to ucsb and a younger brother who's 10 years old 10 years old and are they gonna stay
03:47:04.820
here until he yeah he graduates from college um high school and then at least high school yeah so
03:47:10.500
another eight years yeah and are you gonna stay here until your parents move back or you're moving
03:47:14.900
back as soon as you're done with college well it depends on like where i locate based on my career
03:47:20.340
because i'm trying to get my cpa after um my degree so we'll just see i'm not sure but my long-term
03:47:27.300
goal is to do big four accounting in like a city in china so oh interesting so how do you um i guess
03:47:35.220
like how do you come i'm just i'm not maybe unaware of the process if the goal is not to naturalize
03:47:42.180
how do you come and stay in the united states like long term like your does your father have we had
03:47:49.220
h1b visa or no i don't know what it would be categorized as but um i actually am not too familiar
03:47:57.140
with how we really got here or anything i just know like we had a we had a we did have like we
03:48:03.780
knew people who are just able to do it for us i don't know what you want me to say about that but
03:48:08.020
you guys are like you guys are here legitimately not not like illegally or something okay you can't
03:48:12.660
call ice on me i'm here no no i'm just curious like what the categorization is because there's
03:48:19.540
different ways to stay here long term utilizing your school oh i saw that comment yep exactly
03:48:25.140
don't need to justify yourself that's interesting i have a question for you um this it's interesting
03:48:32.020
though because you're not planning to naturalize you're not planning to gain citizenship although
03:48:37.380
you've lived the majority of your life in the united states you've enjoyed the benefits of living in
03:48:41.860
the united states you've enjoyed the prosperity of living in the united states the education system
03:48:47.060
of the united states did you go to a public school and for high school yeah okay um here's a question
03:48:53.620
for you go ahead so imagine a completely neutral hypothetical situation where neither the united
03:49:00.180
states or china is the aggressor neither has done anything unethical and there's no moral dimension
03:49:07.220
just a military conflict that exists in that value neutral scenario to which side would your
03:49:15.220
allegiance be the united states or china china china i'd say okay and that's obviously biased because
03:49:23.700
i'm chinese from china most of my family's there but right um like you said like you're confused why
03:49:28.420
like i don't want to naturalize spending here being in the us for like such a long period of time
03:49:32.820
i think like being and being here for a long period of time made me realize that i personally like my
03:49:38.180
life in china better like it's more convenient it's easier like politics aside yes correct but
03:49:45.140
not by choice because i go to school here like once this is over of course i want to be back home like
03:49:49.940
where i feel happiest all right i guess uh yeah interesting and for me home is china not the united
03:49:54.660
states i wonder if uh i don't even know if would that be possible for an american to do in china what
03:50:04.260
your parents like i don't know if it's not possible and i don't know if you gave that answer or if an
03:50:11.060
american gave the answer you gave in china how that would go over but um but luckily for us
03:50:17.540
america has pretty robust uh freedoms especially related to speech um perhaps unprecedented on the
03:50:24.660
global stage but uh okay that's interesting i mean my argument does crumble uh it crumbles a little
03:50:32.020
bit in the sense that you're not actively you're not a citizen of the united states you're not trying to
03:50:36.980
naturalize so like it kind of makes sense but it is interesting it's like you have lived the
03:50:43.780
majority of your life here although you're 18 so you've been under the i don't know if control is
03:50:48.900
the right word but like you've been under the authority of your parents for your whole life
03:50:53.620
basically yeah so like when you're 15 you can't be like fuck you mom i'm going back to china you can't
03:50:59.380
do that really yeah your parents have uh authority over you they're your guardians and uh correct but
03:51:06.020
this is interesting this is an interesting thought you know we've asked this question before to um
03:51:11.780
people who have like dual citizenship or who naturalized as american citizens like we had one
03:51:17.220
girl who came from uh i think it was columbia was it do you remember mary that episode yeah we had a
03:51:23.460
girl who came here immigrated here from columbia became a uh she wasn't a legal immigrant become a
03:51:28.420
naturalized american citizen and she said that her allegiance was still to columbia and i found
03:51:34.580
that interesting but in your case it's a bit different i don't know i think we're cooked in
03:51:41.540
america honestly look i gotta be yo chat let me ask the channel why do you think i want out uh well you
03:51:47.940
know the the thing is is that i i think china is doing a lot of things uh in some ways better than
03:51:56.020
the united states like i feel like i've seen construction videos oh yeah construction there
03:52:01.620
isn't fast gets done like they've been uh i don't want to say the location but like near i mean there's
03:52:08.420
all kinds of construction around just santa barbara right man that shit is like what are they doing it
03:52:14.660
takes fucking years for them to do a little patch of road it's like but in china i feel like they get
03:52:19.780
shit done and i wonder if that's because there's probably a bit more of a well mono culture i think
03:52:25.780
there's an incentive here too the longer you take the more these companies that we can make money
03:52:31.460
yeah i think it's just the structure of how things are like in china you know like the ccp everything's
03:52:35.380
run under one organization versus here like you there's so many bills and like like papers that
03:52:40.020
have to be passed so much paperwork that has to be done to do anything that in china it's just like
03:52:44.500
okay one said and done like they just get straight to it here it's like so many approvals it's just like
03:52:48.500
like how the like our leaders like our government runs i guess i think like that wait but here's my
03:52:56.740
question chat chat do you guys think i'm worried bro i'm worried i think that uh you know i feel like
03:53:06.740
china is a bit of a threat you know i think that uh they're gonna surpass i think the chinese
03:53:14.980
it's already happened england well she says it's already happened i don't know about that
03:53:20.340
i don't know about that but in some ways i i do think that uh have you ever been to china let me
03:53:26.660
ask you that no i haven't but i think that there's probably there's a lot of social upheaval in the
03:53:33.220
united states there's a lot of political polarization social polarization in the united states the united
03:53:40.100
states has multiculturalism uh look in china you have like uyghurs and i don't know if i said that
03:53:45.700
right but there are different like i guess ethno groups i don't know if that's even like in china
03:53:51.380
but generally like the people in china they're like chinese heritage whereas here in the united states
03:53:57.540
like multiculturalism i don't really think you have multiculturalism in china you have chinese
03:54:03.860
culture yes but we do have like india like we have a lot of different ethnic groups majority are
03:54:08.900
like the han ethnic group which is what i am but like there's a lot of there's like a lot of cultures
03:54:13.940
within china too i wouldn't just categorize like all of china into one chinese culture like depending on
03:54:18.900
what region you're in they eat different foods they have different practices different beliefs
03:54:22.500
they even look different like people in the north tend to be taller than people in the south
03:54:26.180
because of like climate differences i yeah i don't think it's like all categorized as one i don't know if that
03:54:31.540
helps but well i don't think china's fully caught up quite yet to the united states but
03:54:36.580
i would say that china has a better i i think china probably has a better foundation for social
03:54:42.740
cohesion than the united states does so i think like the fall of the united states i don't think is
03:54:48.740
going to be external i think the fall of the united states would be internal correct which i think
03:54:54.100
would be very unlikely and for china for example i don't think there's enough political polarization
03:55:00.420
or social upheaval in china and so uh by the way i apologize we're totally getting off the
03:55:04.900
fucking date fucking talking about geopolitics in china i don't know chat what do you guys think i i
03:55:10.100
mean it isn't it just true though like there we got a lot of fucking polarization societal upheaval
03:55:19.700
in the united states china seems a bit more cohesive a little bit among its populace but isn't their
03:55:26.500
education better so i'm just i'm not sure but i'm just well it is but like the way they do it like
03:55:33.380
the system is like really detrimental to like students mental health like yeah at the end of
03:55:39.620
the day like i guess you can say like china pumps out smarter kids or whatever but like
03:55:45.220
yeah i think like their education system is something that i wouldn't really like approve
03:55:49.060
of so like yeah that's why i'm studying here and then like taking this knowledge back but
03:55:53.060
and would you argue that china like values stem more than america does um
03:56:01.300
that i actually am not too sure they probably wouldn't say but i also i mean the chinese
03:56:06.260
government has more control way more control like for example uh the chinese government can kind of
03:56:12.660
dictate i i believe didn't didn't the chinese government there's something about how uh
03:56:20.100
uh the men were becoming too feminine or wait fuck i'm trying to remember what this was
03:56:27.060
mary are you googling it something like they they were like all right these these little
03:56:36.020
well there was something like okay if you're on tick tock
03:56:41.460
right yeah like if you're on tick tock in china they're gonna like the algorithm on tick
03:56:46.420
tock and i guess it's named something different in china yeah or whatever they're gonna show like
03:56:51.380
they're gonna push in the algorithm like science videos they're gonna push uh educational videos
03:56:56.500
whereas here in the united states they're the tick tock app is going to push like retarded dances
03:57:02.580
and like just brain rot fucking just slop fucking content um and that's something proactive that the chinese
03:57:11.460
government is doing to like not rot the brains of their youth you don't have access to everything
03:57:18.420
on the internet either there right because i had a one of my exes had gone to china and besides
03:57:24.180
it being like very difficult to you know get approval to go to china um i remember he had to
03:57:28.740
get like a vpn to access or insights or whatever it was yeah that is true for sure
03:57:35.860
anyways whatever we'll get off of that um i was just curious about that okay let's do um
03:57:39.700
oh i apologize for the delay on this we are gonna do the sarah stock situation so we were
03:57:46.420
gonna do it the like right when the super bowl ended but i think who won yo chat who won the
03:57:51.380
super bowl seahawks what was the score chat what was the score 29 to 13 yeah hey chat was it a good game
03:58:15.620
uh i think there's something before that isn't there that's the first one isn't there like an article
03:58:20.740
or something isn't there an article oh what's before that here just do the first one after the chat gpt stuff
03:58:28.820
we'll we'll get into the sarah stock drama here and we'll have the girls weigh in
03:58:41.540
all four there should no no it should be the thing right after the chat gpt before getting
03:58:48.500
into the sarah stock thing we have like stories photos
03:58:57.700
all right we're going to react to these super quick then we're going to get into the sarah stock
03:59:00.500
thing go ahead all right this is yours uh this was a story you made beforehand your girl's going on a
03:59:07.780
dating podcast pray for me dating marriage is not easy nowadays with god anything is possible
03:59:12.900
you want to be encouraging on the whatever podcast you've made a lot of mistakes and want to give
03:59:17.140
people hope next one mormonism religion okay i'm a little trad conservative but not extreme
03:59:25.700
you okay well we're not gonna get into that but uh so what were the mistakes you made you mentioned
03:59:31.140
making mistakes so one mistake i already brought up um the essay attempt i've attempted multiple
03:59:37.540
times to sell myself um in various forms they've never gone through you know but the temptation's
03:59:45.140
there and all i know when you say sell yourself do you mean prostitution yes sir what do you mean you
03:59:50.340
attempted to sell yourself so there was there was a um i'm i'm going to admit it so um i tried selling
03:59:58.180
my virginity online not online but like to meet up with a guy there's a place called cinderella escorts
04:00:04.340
um and i thought i could make money from that there was someone who made a million dollars from
04:00:09.940
selling their v card and i thought i could do something similar because you know i need money to
04:00:15.540
you know to live and to support a family so that was what i had in mind um that's what i mean by selling
04:00:22.420
myself and that was a mistake to you uh you attempted multiple times to sell yourself yes so i consider
04:00:29.380
of like a form of selling yourself like a form of selling yourself i put it in like the i'm talking
04:00:33.620
about the prostitution yeah so so that was just one time that was one time and that's related to the
04:00:40.980
essay no no no no no no no oh mistakes the mistake thing like i've me committing mistakes okay you you
04:00:50.660
had brought up the essay thing though um but so okay you attempted to prostitute yourself yes sir to one
04:00:56.500
man or multiple men or to to someone hypothetically i never met up with anyone to exchange my v card for
04:01:04.740
for uh money okay how far along the process did you get to selling your v card not that far i just found
04:01:13.540
the website i attempted to make an account but then there was just a lot of application stuff that i had
04:01:19.940
to do first and i was just i was like you know what i probably shouldn't be doing this so what it was
04:01:26.500
like uh you spent 30 minutes on the website and then you backed out yes but i spent several months
04:01:32.340
actually years thinking about doing it until i decided to get on the website and you were a mormon
04:01:38.820
at this point um yes isn't that like really probably frowned upon yes sir
04:01:49.140
uh okay i'm not a good like what was your asking price um i was going to go for 500k or a million
04:01:57.060
damn bro that's a lot okay some women get that though right apparently someone would be willing to
04:02:03.780
pay that how did the women prove it though like i mean uh you can't like like i don't know if a guy's
04:02:10.420
going to drop 500 000 like how do you actually know for sure i don't think there's a way to tell
04:02:17.940
you just have to take a word for it like somebody you could you could be have been cracked like 10 times
04:02:26.180
yeah crack crackening and nobody would know like you any of you women who here's a virgin who's a virgin
04:02:34.820
oh i am well i mean obviously why obviously though because you've already told us because she said she
04:02:41.300
is well um like any of you could just claim you're a virgin aside from those of you who have kids that's
04:02:50.980
not gonna work but unless it was like the immaculate conception or like ivf or some
04:02:55.220
shit like you could claim you're a virgin you could claim you're a virgin like how would anybody know
04:03:01.060
that you're not you know yeah maybe how you act in bed that girl can fake that you can have experience
04:03:08.820
and still suck in bed milky but that is true too i want to say like the hymen thing but like every
04:03:14.740
girl like even mine's probably not in tax because of you know i did sports growing up you know yeah but
04:03:19.060
not every woman has a hymen or it can get broken or if they do horseback riding or tampons or what
04:03:26.260
you know whatever it is so that's not uh the lack of a hymen wouldn't be indicative of lacking of virginity
04:03:34.420
but okay that's fucking insane so you tried to sell your virginity damn 500 000
04:03:39.140
shit i would sell my if i could go back in time shit bro woman a woman would not even give you a
04:03:46.180
hamburger to take your virginity like a man's virginity you would as a man you'd have to pay
04:03:52.820
a woman to take your virginity that's the difference in sexual dynamics i guess huh you don't have to
04:04:00.740
what's that you don't have to you can choose not to well what i'm saying is is like i don't think
04:04:06.980
there's any women there's no woman in the history of ever who would pay a million dollars
04:04:14.980
to deflower a man i bet there's one never i bet there's no they just you just make an internet
04:04:20.820
post any virgins out there want to fuck that's it that's all you gotta do is you'll get takers
04:04:28.580
you had something on this i was just gonna say i think there's just a differentiation between how like
04:04:32.660
men and women like or generally speaking view sex like i feel like well i feel like men they see it
04:04:39.460
they can see it as more of like a casual thing because at the end there's not like well yes like
04:04:44.100
you should if you get a woman pregnant you should be accountable but realistically speaking there's no
04:04:48.020
like like he could just leave if he wanted to but like a woman like if you're having sex with someone
04:04:53.540
if you're choosing to do that you have to sit with the consequences if you get pregnant and there was
04:04:57.220
actually an experiment done on this i learned in one of my previous classes where um someone just went
04:05:01.860
around a college campus asking men and women if there was a average looking person i showed them
04:05:06.260
a photo of a very average looking girl or guy if there were a girl um would you crack them i think
04:05:11.940
it was the statistics were like 75 percent of men said yes while zero women said yes and the reasoning
04:05:18.420
behind this psychologically speaking could be like women like our egg is seen as like a protective seed
04:05:23.540
that we kind of have to protect and like we're not just willing to just give it to anyone versus men like
04:05:27.860
you guys can recharge you know like multiple times a day every day so it doesn't it's not as sacred
04:05:33.620
it's not as like like precious to you i guess so maybe that explains why like men are so willing to
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give more to have sex with a woman versus a woman is like why would i pay to have sex with you it's
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like why would i do anything to have i think it's because like the thing you were bringing up is like
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about how like the different ratings i think it's because women are not nearly as realistic about
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how men look compared to how men are like towards women really can you elaborate more on that like
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what do you mean like there'll be a girl that's like a five on a good day and she feels entitled to
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like an eight plus whereas like men i feel like they understand like not every woman's gonna look
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like adriana lima of course but they understand that there's like levels to it like a six could be
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like somewhat above average kind of mad looking but still have a really dateable personality
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and they go for that i feel like women are just really like so he's got to be six feet so you think
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women don't go for personality and we just look for the looks i think there's some women that do but i
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don't i wouldn't say it's like majority do you think that most women have unrealistic standards
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yeah and you don't so you think men's standards are very reasonable then i think men are more
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realistic just about how women look like physically oh girls are gonna love that one interesting
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i tend to agree with that i kind of agree to like generally speaking
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but i do think that there are men out there that you know yeah there's some men who are yeah and they
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think that they can think that they can box yeah it's just cool but i think the difference is so
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the men think that they can pull but women can actually pull so i think here's one of the differences
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and it's something we often talk about on the show uh so men will as a woman even if on your looks alone
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the guy would never consider you for a relationship so there's a threshold where a man will look at a
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woman and he would sleep with her but he wouldn't date her but he wouldn't be in a relationship with
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her but he would if she offers up sex and she gives him sex on the platter want some pussy he'll
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take he'll take the pussy right but he'll never be in a relationship with that girl whereas i think
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typically for women again not saying all instances all times all women i think for a woman to be
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for a woman to have sex with a man he needs to be at least good looking enough that she would be in
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a relationship with him generally now there could be some situations whereas men men will sleep with
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a woman that they don't even want to be seen in public with but they'll have sex with her because
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they want they want some pussy so y'all women you can pull a caliber of men you can have sex you have
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limited access limited sexual access to men that are above your league are more attractive in some
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component whereas men we don't like for example if i if i shoot my shot to a woman outside of my league
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outside of my looks league here's what a woman does a woman needs to go to an attractive guy and be
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pleasant and offer pussy want some pussy sir and maybe he it might not work for all guys but
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you know you'll get a guy whereas as a man if we're making ourselves pleasant and we offer some
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dick to a woman outside of our league they're gonna the fuck you know so like you step to a guy outside
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of your league he might look at you and here's the framing i'll have sex with her but nothing else
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i said a man steps to a girl outside of her league uh complete and total shutdown nothing you don't get a
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date you don't get a conversation um you certainly don't get sex even if you're otherwise pleasant
04:09:30.740
and just offering up maybe the dick could be really good often a really good dick but even then no women
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are more selective and that's not an indictment of women actually i think it's probably more an
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indictment of men but for this reason i think because women and also because women men are their
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pursuers pursuers uh you can be a woman below average woman hop on a dating app you have
04:09:56.340
a hundred dick offers right away you're an average looking dude on a dating app no
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pussy offers zero pussy office offers zero on a dating app below average woman
04:10:08.740
you can get you can fight a even an ugly woman an ugly woman if she wanted to not saying women want
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to do this y'all could fuck like five dudes a day but for for a guy to fuck five chicks a day you got to be
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like like top one percent looks you got to be or like a famous musician famous athlete like top male
04:10:41.060
sorry go ahead you want to know i was just saying like i think that just kind of like proves like
04:10:44.980
ties back to what i was saying about like women just see sex differently as like men like they do
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you guys are just yeah okay i thought you were trying to disagree or like argue against that but
04:10:54.100
well i think i was more so just pointing out um i think it's more in terms of the likelihood of
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uh the delulu yeah like i think women women will overestimate their attractiveness because women
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even like average or below average looking women they pull are bombarded with with offers
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uh dick offers uh and so you you like men would be completely fucking degenerate if the roles were
04:11:28.820
reversed like to to women's credit y'all have restraint like you are turning down a lot of men
04:11:37.060
whereas if the men like how many dick offers do y'all get per day well i shouldn't it depends if
04:11:43.940
you're if you're not if you're like not on a dating app you're just not on social media like that it's
04:11:49.140
probably not too crazy i try 50. 50 per day yeah right yeah yeah so uh yeah to you guys's credit
04:12:02.500
it's probably a good thing y'all y'all are selective in the sense that uh
04:12:06.820
yeah i don't know where i'm going with that well it's not just the pregnancy i would argue like women
04:12:12.500
are also more at risk of utis too that's why they're more picky uh yeah i guess well not even
04:12:20.340
just like the utis or like the medical aspect of it i think just how women view our bodies it's just
04:12:24.740
more of like like like a temple i guess you could say like it's more like sacred and then like a
04:12:32.100
men's body is just more like a regular office building i don't know i think we're getting farther
04:12:36.900
from that though no yeah like i feel like that's like the more traditional view like you know sex
04:12:42.180
is sacred but now we're like but like what brian said even now in this reality it's still true like
04:12:47.220
men are always going to be down to crack versus like you won't be able to find a like or maybe you
04:12:51.700
can but like generally speaking it's going to be harder to find a woman that's as down bad for sex
04:12:55.700
as like a typical man i don't really like that you called a man's body um an office and a woman's a
04:13:00.500
temple i feel like everyone's body is a temple men and women that's just like my christian mormon
04:13:05.300
outlook well i mean i think what she's trying to get at stereotypically how people view their body
04:13:11.140
look there's women are promiscuous too but i think men are more willing to play russian roulette with
04:13:16.100
their dick correct i do think we have whereas women i think are a little like look women women
04:13:22.020
fuck okay i feel like we do have controversy like more control in the bedroom when it comes to like
04:13:29.380
the male female dominancy and i'm not meaning because i'm a submissive woman but um if i was
04:13:35.140
to say to somebody i was dating um would you like to have a freesome i've got a girlfriend that's
04:13:41.140
like i want to bring into the bedroom it'd be more likely that he would be happy and excited about that
04:13:46.740
rather than if it was the other way around i know it's a double standard you'd be like what am i not
04:13:50.980
good enough for you so uh but so going back to this thing so you tried to sell your virginity
04:13:59.300
you know what i'm not proud of it i'm a virgin any takers we have some single women at the table
04:14:04.100
anybody uh i'll give you a discount i'll give you a discount uh my price a thousand dollars
04:14:12.500
i'm charging a thousand dollars you get to take my virginity um it'll be the best five minutes of your
04:14:17.380
life i'll give you the 30 that i almost gave you earlier but wait then i'd have to lose my virginity
04:14:26.900
that'd be awful no i'll answer it back after that but um and if you're uncomfortable talking about it
04:14:33.780
so i understand you you were i think you were tying in there's like an essay or yeah that that has
04:14:38.900
impacted my dating and um i didn't know if it was going to be brought up or if other people were going
04:14:43.620
to bring up other experiences they had from traumatic childhood um or something um that that affects their
04:14:49.940
dating life that was the point of that bullet point i see it affects mine i'm sorry that is okay
04:14:58.900
uh yeah well sorry to hear that that uh happened um but okay it's not related to the selling the
04:15:04.820
virginity thing did you message with any potential takers or no no okay i'm so glad you can i join that
04:15:12.340
website can i sell my virginity i think there might be a mail portion if you want to look it up maybe sure
04:15:17.460
i feel like it'd just be dudes trying to yeah like it'd just be dudes like get your bag brian
04:15:23.620
i have so many chances like that they're like i'm gonna i'm gonna put it on ebay
04:15:26.820
i've never seen ebay i'm gonna offer up auction it off see if there's any takers end up selling for
04:15:35.540
like 30 bucks or 40 bucks okay um let's get into the sarah stock thing let's get into that finally
04:15:42.820
sorry for the delay on that okay so there's a quite a bit of backstory quite a bit of detail so
04:15:48.660
i'll try to be as concise as possible i think i need to provide a bit of uh how do i explain this
04:15:57.540
mary why don't you pull up that youtube video i think we're gonna start there
04:16:00.500
okay at that time stamp originally so okay um was she like an internet celebrity before she came
04:16:07.540
on your show yeah i genuinely need more backstory yeah i feel like i should have read an american
04:16:14.820
history book or something no no like girl for like four hours i've had no idea what any of you
04:16:20.900
you're talking about i'm so sorry hold up and you don't need to no i know i'm like should i get back
04:16:26.340
on the plane and go to england if you put on video tab it's gonna move it again just put it on video
04:16:31.220
or window tab window window tab go ahead yeah you're gonna have to keep it here and put it back
04:16:39.140
to where it needs to go no no if you put leave it on window move now move scrub it while staying on
04:16:49.140
window okay what remember with the arrow keys to like move over no don't press play remember with
04:17:00.100
the arrow keys okay all right so uh this guy uh he says his wife divorced me took my kids and i have
04:17:10.100
no idea where they are uh start uh tabbing over okay uh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa okay hold on way too
04:17:17.620
fast okay we skipped over a bunch um uh uh tab let's just keep tabbing over a little bit
04:17:29.300
keep going okay keep going all right so this is what started it and then keep going what keep going
04:17:39.700
what the fuck is on this keep going keep going keep going
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okay there there's so much guys i hold on let me think about how i want to approach this
04:17:52.420
um hmm how do i do this i don't know if i'm i'll here we'll start there so that's that guy is involved
04:18:00.740
we had a woman on the podcast named sarah stock and she came on this was about two years ago she was on
04:18:06.660
she came on the podcast she's a christian she's catholic she claimed that she was waiting for
04:18:11.860
marriage she claimed she was a virgin it's not entirely clear based on the timeline if when she
04:18:18.580
was on maybe she was a virgin maybe she wasn't maybe it was all a lie what ended up happening was
04:18:23.860
she uh currently was is married to a man and you know she was this trad conservative right wing
04:18:34.340
uh kind of uh kind of talking head influencer content creator she's had a hundred thousand
04:18:42.740
plus following on x she was on like the jubilee surrounded i think once or twice and uh so she's
04:18:50.180
building sort of a brand for herself as this sort of uh conservative traditional catholic
04:18:56.820
uh political commentator uh political commentator it comes out that and she just got married a couple
04:19:05.860
months ago that apparently that guy who i know is a little complicated there but that guy that we
04:19:12.020
pulled up his tweets that was her boss not her husband prior to her marriage up until the day of
04:19:22.180
her engagement she was in a uh she was basically sleeping with her boss that guy named elijah
04:19:30.340
and this started in february allegedly wait how did this come out uh someone named milo
04:19:36.660
yiannopoulos uh sort of maybe some other people were revealing this but he primarily revealed uh there
04:19:44.740
was a leaked phone call where she uh didn't fully admit to everything but did admit that there
04:19:50.820
there was a uh a cheating situation that she did cheat on her uh my understanding is she didn't cheat
04:19:59.620
during the marriage or during the engagement but she was sexually involved with a married father
04:20:07.700
during the course of her pre-engagement relationship with her now husband soon to be ex-husband
04:20:15.220
uh and so uh that stems back to i think february of 2025 is when she got romantically sexually involved
04:20:26.260
with this other guy all the while dating her now husband she was allegedly cheating on him
04:20:34.900
up until the engagement so it wasn't just a one-time mistake allegedly
04:20:39.300
she was there was this was an ongoing cheating situation now the other complication is she told
04:20:48.660
her husband that she was waiting for marriage so all the while he was waiting for marriage to have
04:20:54.900
for them to have sex she was selling purity she was having she was getting cracked let's say by her boss
04:21:04.980
who's a orthodox christian or i don't know what his faith is who's a married man with children he's now
04:21:11.620
getting divorced his wife is divorcing him i suspect the marriage with sarah and her husband is also
04:21:20.100
heading in that same direction uh so it is a complicated in the sense that she was preaching
04:21:26.260
all these conservative traditional values claiming to be a virgin making her husband white while she's
04:21:32.260
getting cracked on the low and uh just just a complete contradiction of her her values um now we're
04:21:40.820
gonna actually marry here's what we're gonna do we're gonna pull up let's pull up the video really
04:21:46.020
quick actually that doesn't matter let's let's just go into the tweets let's go into the first one
04:21:51.700
so when this shit went down uh she basically immediately deleted her ex which was her primary
04:21:58.980
platform go ahead pull it up so she deleted her ex when this shit went down you would think that
04:22:07.220
if these allegations were false that she would perhaps defend herself but uh she has completely
04:22:13.460
deleted all her social media tab over to the next let me provide some important history now sarah was on
04:22:22.900
the show two years ago and the reason i'm even talking one of the reasons i'm talking about this
04:22:28.660
aside from it being relevant to the podcast is she talked about me okay she talked about me she
04:22:36.100
begged pull it back up mary she talked some shit and she had begged to be on pull it back up she had begged
04:22:42.580
to be on the podcast three separate occasions october 2023 november 9th 2023 january 29th 2024 and in
04:22:51.060
february of 2024 we finally had her on the show now you see down there where it says this post is from
04:22:55.860
an account that no longer exists she said something to the effect of i was just tweeting i wasn't even
04:23:01.140
tweeting about her it was something else i was tweeting about somebody else who's we're not going
04:23:05.140
to go down that rabbit hole but somebody who goes by the name of ashley st claire and i'm not going to
04:23:11.780
get into that but in response to my tweet that had nothing to do with sarah stock here she says well your
04:23:18.500
podcast does suck after she'd been on the podcast after she had begged to be on the podcast and after
04:23:25.620
she kind of a backstab a little bit so then scroll up so then i leaked the dms because it's like how
04:23:32.500
are you gonna say my podcast sucks when you begged to be on it multiple times um tab over
04:23:40.820
uh so then then this is me inviting sarah to do a debate on her criticisms of the show why she thinks it
04:23:46.980
sucks now she calls i the reason i show this she calls the podcast degenerate now notice the date
04:23:53.460
february 15th 2025 she calls my podcast degenerate precisely around the same time she began her cheating
04:24:03.540
escapade with a married man who has children and she was claiming to be a virgin and waiting until
04:24:09.540
marriage and cucking her boyfriend at the time now husband and she's calling me a degenerate and oh
04:24:17.380
the guy who she's having the affair with is the guy who said cook as in as in he agrees with her
04:24:26.100
calling my podcast degenerate and they call it degenerate because you know we sometimes have only
04:24:31.700
fans girls on although today we only have one out of ten and you know we talk about sex and blah blah
04:24:37.540
blah blah but their position is my podcast is so degenerate and then uh next one i guess so that's
04:24:47.140
the cheating elijah is the cheating partner and by the way he was cheating on his wife who he has kids
04:24:53.140
with and then here's her talking more shit uh this is actually before the that shit talking but so this
04:25:01.220
is uh kind of out of order chronologically but she writes let me can you read this for me me sure
04:25:09.140
um there's something very feminine about a man sitting on a podcast chatting and bickering with
04:25:14.340
girls about sex and dating all day long obviously directed at me so she's been talking shit what's that
04:25:20.500
you sure you love a gossip oh huge fan of it love it love it very feminine very feminine to be sitting
04:25:26.740
here with all you guys heaven forbid a man has conversations with the women so feminine uh so
04:25:32.820
anyways um i actually i i i kind of scorched her with a tweet on this but next one mary
04:25:41.380
okay so this is just more shit talking i'm establishing the shit talking because it's going
04:25:46.260
to matter in a moment she calls the podcast total brain brain rot she agrees that it's slop for low iq
04:25:53.140
retards um some hey some maybe it's true they say it's covert advertising for of which is totally not
04:26:01.460
true um and then she says yes i've been on it it sucks okay continue on next ah uh mary go ahead and
04:26:12.660
make it full screen put it video tab and we're going to play the video go ahead
04:26:15.540
oh uh just scroll it back okay go ahead play hi i'm sarah stock i'm 20 i'm from newport beach um i'm
04:26:26.260
single i've never had a long serious relationship or anything i've had like two pretty short relationships
04:26:34.740
and a lot of first dates kind of thing how many first dates would you say you've had no idea to be
04:26:41.460
honest more than 10 more than 20 more than 30 i don't know probably around 20 over my life okay
04:26:49.620
um what's the longest period of time that you've dated a guy
04:26:54.580
like two and a half three months i think would you call it a situationship have you ever called
04:27:00.500
somebody your boyfriend yeah you're also religious correct yeah i'm a christian are you waiting until
04:27:04.980
marriage yeah have you always waited till marriage yes you both are virgins is that correct
04:27:11.700
yeah the chick with the helmet on is slaying right no shame just okay what's your body count
04:27:18.900
yeah it's oh my god somebody should give it to me i would fucking wear it yeah
04:27:21.860
oh the helmet was cute i'm sorry i feel like it would be more interesting yeah
04:27:40.100
um we were appreciating the helmet in the video and then we spotted it on the shelf i'm really sorry i do
04:27:44.820
apologize if this takes away from um this video
04:27:50.500
just continue playing the video sure i 120 120 okay four four eight zero zero zero zero
04:28:03.700
whoa okay okay surrounded by purity here yeah i feel it rubbing off on me um that's between me and
04:28:13.220
the man upstairs okay so that's just further establishing a few things here uh mary can you
04:28:19.540
pull up the next tab please window down all right so that's her on the show now here's some more detail
04:28:26.180
uh and that's august 4th so there's a this is a secondary part of the story prior to the cheating
04:28:33.620
accusations that came to light this is all in the past couple days that the cheating stuff came to
04:28:38.820
light uh this is august 4th this kind of went viral we actually covered it on previous episode uh
04:28:45.540
so she posted this on x and all the e-girls attacked her and i actually don't have an issue really with
04:28:52.340
this maybe there's minor criticisms but she says i won and uh showing that she got engaged right
04:29:00.660
and i don't have any criticisms of this but uh it did get into this big controversy and all the
04:29:06.900
conservative e-girls started fighting each other over it i don't really know why
04:29:12.100
i didn't think it was a big deal maybe it was a bit performative and like
04:29:15.540
sharing it online i didn't really care i thought it was fine i actually defended her a little bit
04:29:20.020
despite the beef uh and but then i after the after the revelations of the cheating
04:29:30.900
well i i actually had a new interpretation of the that photo that viral moment go ahead pull it back
04:29:37.620
up mary um so this is my new interpretation of she won um so i did that mary can you tab over
04:29:49.780
next one uh divorce attorney she won and mary hit the x so i just hit x up there
04:30:01.700
so i just would write i won just to uh tab over you get the idea so yeah yeah uh tab over now oh this
04:30:10.420
is where it gets even juicier so this is she no so there's something where newlyweds for catholics
04:30:19.140
you can have your uh you can have your marriage it's called a papal blessing that's the pope that's
04:30:26.820
the top figure in the catholic faith you can have newlyweds can go to uh the vatican and have their i believe
04:30:34.180
they go to the vatican for this but i'm not sure if they the pope travels but i'm pretty sure they go
04:30:38.820
to the vatican and he blesses the pope the top of the food chain of the catholic faith
04:30:45.700
blesses your marriage and she says highly recommend getting your marriage blessed by the pope mind you
04:30:53.860
the marriage is because of what the new revelations it's actually completely i believe it can be the
04:30:59.860
marriage can be annulled it's null and void the marriage because of the infidelity and the lying
04:31:06.740
that sarah stock there uh look poor guy poor husband right oh i'm marrying a virgin waiting
04:31:14.100
for marriage okay next whoa next well did you tab over more than once or
04:31:21.780
or or did you resize wait what are you doing you just okay can you just go back to the pope video
04:31:36.580
or the pope photo and then we'll see what happened there uh here while we're waiting for that um
04:31:43.060
um okay just tab over once here okay that's weird okay uh click on the image there so mind you sarah
04:31:54.500
stock related to her being a conservative trad grifter she writes sex is bad for the soul outside
04:32:01.380
of its intended purpose yes actually can i have you read these her tweets again yeah okay um sex is bad
04:32:08.660
for the soul outside of its intended purpose yes all of them yeah all of them wrong real christian men
04:32:14.580
want to get married because sex outside of marriage is a sin regardless of regardless of whether or not
04:32:20.580
you've committed the sin before no but having sex out of wedlock is a sin against the baby that results
04:32:26.260
from it so kind of related to that last one but also you know here she is online talking about sex
04:32:32.980
outside of marriage is a sin but she's cheating on her eventual husband with a married man who has
04:32:42.660
children so quite the sin um while she's she's basically kind of being a hypocrite here and uh being
04:32:50.180
a grifter and then also it's alleged i don't know this for sure it is alleged by others that she got
04:32:56.900
abortions which if you're a catholic not really supposed to do that but and if you're a conservative
04:33:04.180
whatever she's pro-choice or excuse me she's pro-life uh next one mary
04:33:13.700
again uh sex outside of it's okay it's i don't know why it's being weird uh sex outside the marriage
04:33:19.940
is always a sin again uh next one oh is that it yeah okay um all right so i'm trying to think if
04:33:29.460
there's any other details oh pull up the article we'll just do that super quick i think that's the
04:33:33.780
final thing on this okay scroll down to the oh wait wait scroll up just keep it at the top hey scroll up
04:33:41.700
all the way to the top please and then you see that thing in the very top left right just hit x hit x
04:33:47.220
please okay so this is a the final article she wrote for her the company she was working for
04:33:54.260
this is how easy it is to be a top 10 woman in 2026 uh sarah stock scroll down to the don't be a
04:34:01.380
slut one what the fuck geez oh my god i yikes okay scroll down scroll down to the text no no no no no
04:34:08.820
scroll up scroll up just to the text part no scroll down scroll down i just need the text i don't need
04:34:13.460
that stupid image uh scroll down a bit more okay uh could i have you read why is it always me
04:34:21.140
reading i'm just picking on you um most single young women have been deceived into believing casual
04:34:26.820
promise behavior is the best way to lock down a high quality man in reality it is it make it so that
04:34:33.220
only the most desperate men are willing to take you seriously even if you've been acted like a slut in
04:34:37.780
the past it's never too late to stop i shouldn't have to say this but don't sleep around all you
04:34:43.380
really have to do is put on some clothes when you're in public don't wear yoga pants crop tops
04:34:48.100
tight short dresses excessive cleavage lingerie shirts etc we're gonna skip that part go to the
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next paragraph regarding your history it's regarding your history it's 2026 most women are going to have
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at least a bit of sexual or romantic past with other women what's important is that you don't talk
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about it aside from being honest about its extent if things start to get serious with the guy make
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sure to express regret over any mistakes but spare the details because most men prefer not to know
04:35:13.620
avoid talking about your exes or bragging about male attention because it actually doesn't make you look
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desirable please don't talk about male celebrities you think are hot and pretend that the guy you're
04:35:23.300
interested in is the only one that exists all right so a little bit of some indictment there because
04:35:28.900
she's trying she's sort of hinting at you should suppress some of your romantic or sexual history
04:35:36.020
if you're a woman in this case kind of emblematic here she duped her husband um i'm trying to think
04:35:42.900
if there's anything else to really she so she deleted her ex um who knows if she'll be back um there's
04:35:49.860
some other details there that's the bulk of it um i'm curious to hear from panelists what you guys think
04:35:57.460
starting with you on what exactly you're just reaction your reaction to the whole article the
04:36:05.540
tweets all of it um well i definitely think she's a hypocrite i mean for everything that she said like
04:36:14.180
she kind of went against all of it when with her actions like she claims to be this like very like
04:36:19.940
right like i don't know her view she doesn't align with her views in the way she acts
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going around the table what do you think um well i think she summed it up pretty well i agree i think
04:36:33.060
it's very hypocritical and like she's not she's just not um yeah her actions just don't match her words
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um i think she's just like a professional larper either it was all for like show like maybe a
04:36:48.100
fucking plant or some shit but like honestly that's like you're you're a joke of like a representation
04:36:53.780
of what like real conservatism means maybe it's like to put a negative light like honestly i wouldn't
04:36:59.540
doubt if it was a plant it's just disgusting repulsive behavior and like don't call yourself anywhere near
04:37:04.420
catholic well okay did you say she had only fans no no no she wasn't a sex worker i was gonna say don't
04:37:13.220
scam that's it i have yeah okay what do you think it's like annoying to see her like tear down like
04:37:20.100
other women and like telling them not to have sex before marriage and all of this and then she probably
04:37:24.340
did like the worst thing like not even just she had sex out of wedlock but she cheated and then
04:37:28.900
what she did with a married man who had kids so pretty bad yeah so yeah what about you same thing as
04:37:35.060
everyone else okay okay any uh i was gonna say she's like clearly a grifter like she just said
04:37:42.020
the things that she knew to say in order to get a platform she's just a clout chaser yeah absolutely
04:37:49.940
anything madeline assuming it's true because i've never seen this before um but just taking your word
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for it uh it's really disappointing i think it's just better to own up to your mistakes like she said
04:38:01.620
she should take her own advice be honest about what she had done say that she's not proud of it but now
04:38:07.220
she is caught as a liar and a really bad um representation of you know what she a conservative
04:38:14.180
traditional catholic etc do you think some of its publicity stunts like the thing with like the ring
04:38:20.820
like do you think she did that because she knew it would like start controversy in order for her to
04:38:24.820
get like publicity probably i mean i think look you just got married it's a big milestone in somebody's
04:38:30.980
life i don't know if she had the intention of uh starting a controversy i don't think it was really
04:38:36.740
even all that controversial but i don't think so either the e-girl conservative e-girls lost their
04:38:43.460
fucking mind about some of them lost their mind about it um i mean there could be some argument that
04:38:49.620
it was like slightly attention seeking like yeah i don't really have personally the thing i don't have
04:38:54.500
a problem with it really i think it's uh i mean me personally i don't really i'd prefer to date a
04:39:00.100
woman who has like minimal or no social media presence but i think it was pretty harmless right
04:39:07.380
the ring thing the ring thing the ring thing yeah but i mean the the primary thing here is the the
04:39:13.380
cheating the lying the um also i'm just like how are you gonna call me a degenerate i'm the degenerate
04:39:23.220
you're the one larping as a fucking conservative catholic while getting cracked by your boss while
04:39:29.380
making your husband wait for sex that's such a like stereotypically like like like sick like
04:39:36.420
actually like to call you degenerate is like and it's just like a weird projection they were well
04:39:42.180
i think they were projecting obviously yeah because it's like it seems like if she really like think
04:39:46.820
about it if she really actually believed even the basics of like the catholic faith or what she's
04:39:52.100
preaching about politics it just it just seems like a bit almost now the question i'm curious about
04:39:58.180
is was the boss at their wedding that's what i want to know that bro that's gotta be brutal you're so
04:40:07.060
you invite i bet yeah he might have been you the the man who basically cucked you is at your wedding
04:40:15.620
shit it's fucked up honestly that whole situation is probably one of the biggest black pills slash red
04:40:26.500
pills uh of the year i i want to say that's going to be the biggest black pill slash red pill of the
04:40:33.860
year do you think she can make a comeback in any form no she's done she's a hundred percent
04:40:39.460
done she deleted her instagram too or i think she deleted her instagram she deleted her ex
04:40:44.580
i mean look she might try to do a comeback oh the crazy part oh i totally forgot about this
04:40:49.700
um i'm wondering if we can find the tweets wait mary can you find the guy's ex so do you remember that
04:40:57.620
one uh if you google elijah schaefer x oh this gets fucking crazy hold on i totally forgot this find
04:41:05.460
his ex account mary i hope i don't know if he deleted the tweets but um yeah i mean i look
04:41:14.020
yeah do you have his ex yeah uh make sure it's like okay to show but you want to just pull it up
04:41:23.620
to confirm so he apparently uh he doubled down when the ship came out this is her fiance no no this is
04:41:32.100
the cheating partner this is the guy her boss her boss who's married and has kids you you got it
04:41:55.780
but you can find it from the remember where he said cook that's his his at if you can pull up
04:42:05.300
i mean yes i'm gonna give you 10 lashes mary if i find this before you do wait okay all right
04:42:14.020
private chat found that shit before oh my god then i'm on a shitty laptop at a fucking elevated angle
04:42:19.380
there you go pull that shit up there it is i'm fucking yeah i'm gonna cane you you're getting
04:42:26.500
fucking caned that's hot that's who said that all right there it is all right uh hit click on the
04:42:34.900
replies tab wait mary click replies do you see the replies tab yeah but just to be safe click it
04:42:43.380
all right um can you just scroll down and make sure there's not anything like he's not like leaking a
04:42:48.580
picture of his cock or something just scroll down like i don't know for five ten seconds i just want
04:42:54.420
to make sure i didn't pre-look at it so okay go ahead pull it back up if it looks safe from the top
04:43:01.620
it looks okay all right pull that shit back up all right scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down
04:43:09.140
uh let's see scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down uh wait scroll down scroll down
04:43:15.380
scroll down one more one more one more tweet uh okay here we'll start the scroll down or actually
04:43:24.100
wait go up okay sorry so sorry i got it go up up up up up more okay it's my story to tell so this is
04:43:33.620
in response to the things coming out uh and then he says i got mad aura be mad scroll down they will not
04:43:40.340
get away with this i'm not fucking leaving so by the way he's getting divorced from scroll up married
04:43:46.900
to the text um no the the the part i just read so in response to the cheating allegations coming out
04:43:56.420
out there's not by the way i think he's catholic or orthodox uh there's no repentance there's no i
04:44:04.580
fucked up he's he broke up two i mean both of them broke up two families his family and hers and
04:44:14.180
his response to this is not i fucked up i made a mistake it's i got mad aura be mad scroll down i'm
04:44:21.300
gonna read the other one uh so that's the guy yeah just leave it there uh you fucking snake
04:44:28.740
bitch this is the guy who leaked some of the stuff uh he says i have a dick and it works everyone can
04:44:34.180
go cry about it so basically he's doing a justification of the cheating because basically
04:44:39.300
saying uh yes i am a man and i have a penis and i uh yes i i am desirous of sex uh and then scroll
04:44:49.540
up i think there's one more that's relevant up up up keep going i'll tell you when to stop
04:44:53.780
it's okay for a man to say that uh scroll up wait scroll scroll down scroll down scroll down this one
04:45:04.020
right here uh yeah i mean that's pretty much it that's pretty much it all right so that's just
04:45:15.220
nobody has more further thoughts on that what that's fucking insane to me it's the whole i have
04:45:24.900
a and it works is crazy to me because if he is orthodox or catholic or whatever he is it's it's
04:45:32.500
just insane that he's justifying that and like you don't have self-control that's what i care about
04:45:39.540
as a woman i think that's what your wife cared about was your self-control and your loyalty obviously
04:45:43.140
you didn't have that so that's yeah all right somebody on a dirt bike or something um that i
04:45:53.620
miss yeah and having no remorse for your bad actions makes you a bad person yeah no remorse
04:46:00.020
that's like a huge slap in the face to his ex-wife too like imagine you find something out like that and
04:46:05.700
then you see on his twitter he's justifying it like who did i even marry and you said they have kids
04:46:10.420
right oh shoot yeah didn't you say they have kids he has he has kids so now they're gonna see that
04:46:16.580
because nothing on the internet is ever scrubbed yeah and they're gonna grow up with that perception
04:46:20.740
i don't know how old they are now but especially if they're on social media i'm sure they've already
04:46:24.020
seen something imagine like what your perspective of your father looks like now yeah or your perspective
04:46:29.060
of like a lead a man in a leadership role in your life that's like not only did he sabotage him and
04:46:34.900
his wife he sabotaged his kids perception of lots of different things for the future growing up so
04:46:40.340
shame on him yeah yeah well the the big black pill is and we we sort of talked about this at the very
04:46:47.780
beginning of the convo with how can you really know if a girl is single so it's sort of related in the sense
04:46:56.580
that how do you know how do you know what this real like somebody could just lie about their past and
04:47:05.380
like unless you were intimately familiar with the person you knew them before you started dating them
04:47:10.580
even then how do you really know like what goes down behind the scenes like some girl could be
04:47:18.100
smashing the entire football team and you wouldn't know
04:47:23.380
it's just kind of a black pill because it's not just like she how are you gonna claim you're a
04:47:30.580
virgin waiting till marriage and you're just not black pill that's why you know what i kind of respect
04:47:39.700
these liberal women to the extent that one can respect liberal women um
04:47:46.340
i kind of at least i feel like liberal more liberal women more uh i don't know if sex positive is the
04:47:54.340
right term no that's not the right term at least i feel like there's they're still gonna lie
04:48:01.940
but there's a little there's more incentive for them to be not incentive but they're more likely to be
04:48:07.300
honest they don't see anything wrong with it so it's like why why yeah it's like oh well yeah oh i was
04:48:12.100
promiscuous whereas like i feel like the conservative chicks i think they're fucking
04:48:16.980
grifting but i think a lot of these conservative chicks the fucking religious chicks bro they got
04:48:22.580
a past and they're gonna hide that shit whereas like a fucking atheist liberal girl she's gonna be
04:48:26.980
like yeah you know i was in i was in college i fucked you know 20 dudes or whatever i think it's less
04:48:32.020
likely to come across for like if you choose to date a conservative woman you don't have to worry
04:48:38.020
about it as much like it's less likely that she's gonna have been promiscuous than someone who might
04:48:43.300
be outspoken about it and they they're proud of it you know i don't know these conservative
04:48:48.100
girls be fucking she's shaking her head she's like i know some republican bitches that don't
04:48:52.500
fuck i know some trump some trump voters that don't fuck the entire sig gap frat house
04:48:58.660
are you in a sorority okay are you in a sorority okay i'm just saying i don't know how you
04:49:05.780
are you ever gonna know you think you got yourself a good girl but she has an orgasm what's wrong with
04:49:12.820
there's nothing wrong with orgasms but like she what if she fucked like the entire every all the
04:49:18.660
dudes in a frat house that's a lot of she gang banged an entire frat what the fuck and she's never
04:49:24.660
gonna tell you bro that scares me oh my god imagine you oh my god what if he did something similar
04:49:31.860
though like think about here here's the best way good times no it's not a good time not a good time
04:49:37.540
bad time very bad time very bad i've not but like all right well i know your version of fun is to get
04:49:44.420
gang banged by i've never been gang banged but thank you i thought you said it was a good time
04:49:49.380
like good for her she obviously like do your thing bad for her but uh like um i'm not saying
04:49:56.900
if you're in a relationship yes like enjoy i'm not saying i'm not like no women should never climax
04:50:04.980
that's retarded but uh in fact women y'all climax more than men well sometimes if you're able if
04:50:12.180
you're able to look i'm sorry i'm sorry you're dysfunctional i'm sorry no look it's look okay i just
04:50:19.540
like i find that into the mic guys reminder speak into the mic sorry i find that statistically so hard to
04:50:24.420
believe because so many women that i've talked to have been like i think he's referring to how
04:50:28.340
women can have orgasms back to back women can have multiple orgasms i see what you mean yeah sorry so
04:50:34.020
why is it the case that women who have the ability to have multiple multiple orgasms when they have
04:50:40.500
sex with a guy they're not climaxing i don't know you guys tell me y'all the women repeat that
04:50:46.740
are you guys are you guys just time are these guys just not laying it down properly are they
04:50:52.740
they're not they don't know how to fuck or they guys can't teach him i feel like like some of it's
04:50:57.860
on the woman like she's not teaching the guy enough she's not speaking up enough that could be part of
04:51:02.020
it yeah communication is key but i think the guy has some duty to do check-ins you know yeah do some
04:51:08.820
check-ins some people are so fast or slower left right question is the first time really bad for
04:51:14.340
women more pressure less pressure no um it can be it can be painful especially if you're tight
04:51:20.340
which you probably are i mean what i don't think there's anything uh sorry girl i don't know where
04:51:28.100
we're going with that i mean yeah it was just a question i mean shit imagine though imagine imagine
04:51:35.620
you uh you think you got yourself a virgin girl and she's fucking her boss yeah she puts shames to
04:51:41.620
virgins i'm like i hate people who are like oh i'm a virgin and like they're not i'm like uh there's
04:51:46.740
just genuine virgins who yeah you know i've taken sometimes i've taken a hard stance on only fans
04:51:52.580
girls and i've said i've said before i think my initial position was i would only be with a of girl
04:52:00.100
i i did say this very early on in the show i would and i never actually ended up dating an only fans
04:52:05.700
girl but i would date an only fans girl if she only did solo content like she didn't if she fucked
04:52:10.980
another guy on camera no what if she was with another girl is that okay it's not as good as
04:52:16.180
solo content but it's not as bad as if she did content with men but my content with boys is content
04:52:22.020
that i've been in a relationship with them yeah still a problem i don't just so problem but i guess
04:52:27.380
what i'm getting at here is nick i don't know if you guys know who nick fuentes is so you wouldn't
04:52:31.540
want to be in a relationship with someone that did only fans i've never i've never slept with never
04:52:36.020
dated a girl who's any kind of only but if she did solo content it'd be fine no no well what i'm
04:52:41.540
saying is then my position switched to uh well i might be okay with it if she only did solo content
04:52:47.460
never actually ended up dating an only fans girl two hundred percent deal breaker don't care if she
04:52:52.980
only posts fucking bikini pictures if she does only fans hundred percent deal breaker two now i'm kind
04:52:58.180
of getting i don't know if i'm blackpilled i don't know if i'm just losing it with this sarah stock
04:53:02.660
thing nick fuente and look i don't agree with a lot of nick what nick fuente says however
04:53:09.780
he said something along the lines of wouldn't it be hot to marry an only fans girl yes and related
04:53:15.780
to the sarah stock thing i was thinking like no matter if no matter who you marry
04:53:24.340
they're gonna do some dirty shit i like it kind of makes sense a little i don't know
04:53:29.220
it's like in the marriage or like are you talking about no i'm just i guess what i'm trying to say
04:53:33.300
is like explore your fantasy it's not a fantasy i'm just saying like like if they're gonna
04:53:38.660
fucking cheat on you anyway that's such a way she's concerned okay oh oh no i'm not gonna date an only
04:53:48.820
fans girl i'm gonna find myself a based trad catholic uh virgin waiting until marriage girl and she's
04:53:57.700
still she fucking lied she's like so it's like fuck i might as well i don't know that's one girl
04:54:03.620
though like yes i agree she's not look sarah stock is not emblematic of all conservative women or
04:54:10.580
christian women of course not of course that's not true there's good women out there
04:54:16.340
but you never know you never know all women are convincing that's the risk you take i mean
04:54:23.060
people have a past and some people are liars that's just a risk you take i mean the other
04:54:31.460
option is to yeah the other option is to not talk to them don't date them like i don't know like i
04:54:37.380
would here's i guess here's what i'm trying to say if if the choice was between in a hypothetical
04:54:46.260
where i don't know the outcome until later on of dating an only fans girl who's honest with me about
04:54:53.300
her past versus dating a girl who lies to me about being a virgin and she wants to wait but that's
04:55:01.780
completely too but for but actually done had fucking trains ran on her at the frat house and
04:55:08.820
fucked a bunch of dudes i almost would prefer and appreciate the honesty do you want an honest
04:55:16.420
person that's important like i if i had to choose i know that sounds it's like look it's bad either way
04:55:21.940
those are both shitty options but i'd almost have an appreciation for like at least i know what i'm
04:55:28.580
getting i'm not being deceived it's honesty you know i don't know if the chat disagrees i promise
04:55:33.700
you'd be having a good time huh you'd be having a good time it'd be fun what the fuck your sex life
04:55:40.340
would be fun that's all i'm saying well what why you're you're saying that women who are not
04:55:45.380
no no no no no no no no no i'm just saying bro the shy chicks are the best in bed that little nerdy
04:55:51.780
that nerdy girl in the in the library with the glasses she fucks yeah like she she knows she yeah
04:55:58.740
that's you bro it's the what are you talking about what are you talking about you don't know
04:56:04.980
you're saying you're fun bro it's that nerdy chick that you never suspect that's gonna
04:56:11.700
give you a good time just saying yeah no i bet just saying
04:56:17.620
so you said i don't know maybe i'm black-pilled i don't know you said on only fans what if a girl is
04:56:22.660
posting things on instagram is it just the only fans thing because they're having people pay our
04:56:26.740
instagram too like if a girl like i have a bikini shot on my instagram is that a problem for you
04:56:33.140
uh i mean i'd have to see it i'd have to see what else is being posted on the instagram i mean look my
04:56:39.140
general preference is towards uh more uh public facing modesty uh i definitely prefer that um i
04:56:48.660
personally prefer a girl who has as minimal social media presence or even none so she has a
04:56:55.860
fucking private instagram with like totally everything archived or a couple posts like
04:57:03.060
that's the ideal and women can want that too i've heard a lot of women say oh i want a guy who has
04:57:07.860
no social media yeah but i want a guy who doesn't post on instagram i want a guy who doesn't follow
04:57:12.420
300 girls i want a guy who doesn't have a thousand followers like so women can want this too um
04:57:18.340
but uh but women that say they want loser boyfriends they say that because they want to feel like
04:57:24.500
they're above him somehow like they want to feel like secure in the relationship like oh he'll never
04:57:28.660
leave me he's a loser socially that's what like what a lot of those girls say like i want a guy with
04:57:33.700
no social media i i think like a a bikini photo some guys have an issue with it i think it's a pretty
04:57:42.980
minor thing would it be my preference overall for it to for it to be leaning more modest side yes
04:57:50.260
yes i don't think it's a deal breaker um but i'd prefer a girl not super active on social media
04:57:56.420
like that so why is that your preference uh instagram's a dating app especially for women
04:58:01.940
you think so oh i've never used it for dating like ever yeah well it's also just an appearance thing
04:58:07.540
like i so i'm very private with you know i've been doing the show for four years very private with uh
04:58:13.700
the women i've dated my relationships uh i also uh in terms of an appearances thing uh oh this is
04:58:23.780
sort of a different dynamic i i mean i'd want to insulate my girlfriend from like my what i do is
04:58:31.540
controversial what i do brings heat on me and if i was public with my uh let's say previous girlfriends
04:58:39.860
i've had uh during the course of the show uh and like people knew their instagram and like could
04:58:47.140
find them and shit that would be a level of attention i would not want to inflict and inflict
04:58:52.900
is certainly the right word uh on my girlfriend like these motherfuckers gonna be harassing the
04:58:57.940
shit out of her how big is his dick does he come too quick is he a premature ejaculator sending
04:59:05.220
death threats they'd send death threats to her oh my god how could you date such a toxic man
04:59:10.660
yeah i can't not so any girl i'm seeing that shit's gonna always be private but even then i'd still
04:59:16.260
not want her really posting uh i wouldn't want her posting shit on instagram like the bikini pics
04:59:24.260
ideally if you're in the archive in the archive it goes it's a hot day and you're in a bikini
04:59:31.300
uh i mean having a good time yeah but is it one of these where it's like what's wrong look at my ass
04:59:38.020
do you see my ass i'm turning around for this picture and i'm looking over my shoulder like
04:59:43.860
this thirst trap like like uh you know well you could just look in a bikini what what's the word
04:59:52.740
for a picture if it's a candid photo of her in a bikini okay whatever yeah you could still archive
04:59:57.700
it by the way i preferred to submissive uh submissive dynamic in my relationships
05:00:03.780
so if i tell you to do something you should do it what if you didn't right within reason with within
05:00:12.020
reason well yeah if i submission is not if i tell my girlfriend to jump off a bridge she should rightfully
05:00:19.540
say no fuck you well she shouldn't say fuck you even if i tell her jump off a bridge but she should
05:00:24.580
say no like that's beyond the scope of what a submissive dynamic would be but if i say hey listen
05:00:32.740
um i want you to bunker down your social media i i this is not good for appearances i want you to be
05:00:40.980
like yes sir i disagree with that i think why is that i think that everyone's entitled works too
05:00:49.940
everyone's entitled to be exactly who they are in whatever in whatever form if you don't like
05:00:55.620
someone's social media presence or you don't like the way they are expressing themselves and you don't
05:01:00.420
have to be with right but what's most important is staying true to yourself like and being like you
05:01:07.060
know empty platitude but okay and doing your thing you know like obviously okay obviously like
05:01:12.260
have i've seen your instagram have respect for your part oh shit half your shit's gone if we were to
05:01:17.540
i have the fucking shit archive private archive you're dancing around with is it a bb gun or actual
05:01:24.180
gun oh it's like a prop gun it's not a real gun yeah that shit's got to go that sounds amazing in
05:01:29.860
your underwear and shit yeah that shit's got to go okay i am confident in who i am and i'm confident in
05:01:35.060
my artwork my instagram is artwork and i'm confident it is something it is stuff that i have created
05:01:40.340
yes it is art it is photography it is artwork everyone has a different no no you can have a
05:01:45.140
different opinion and i like i respect your opinion i respect other everyone else's opinions on my
05:01:49.620
instagram too because it's really not for everyone it's like but it's stuff that no one has done before
05:01:54.820
you know it's like original creations and at least i mean that's me being true to myself and if my
05:02:00.740
partner is gonna look at my art in a burka i right you don't need to be right but like i get i guess
05:02:10.660
it gets into like different themes of like you know freedom of body like there's a lot of different
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things that i'm expressing through my art on my instagram and it's not it's not trying to look for
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attention or to be sexual but you can have a different maybe that's the case but i think if you're in a
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relationship with somebody and something you're doing is making them uncomfortable right and i i
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would consider it and take it into account for sure but then at the end of the day like if you
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if you don't agree with how i'm expressing myself or me being myself you don't have to be
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right so then it would just become a negotiation but i mean i would no so so but if the if on the
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outset or i guess onset of a relationship is i'm disclosing to a woman hi i prefer a submissive
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dynamic i want you to defer to my decision making i want you to defer to my leadership uh what i say
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ought to go and i would be like okay that's not if she's then agreed to enter into that dynamic with me
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right then yeah she's going to she well she can obviously do whatever she wants but if the
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content the continuity of the relationship is at stake and i understand that and also i want to
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add on to that by saying that like if i was with a guy that i really cared about and really liked and
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he came to me and was like hey i'm uncomfortable with one of your posts like this post makes
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you know i'm uncomfortable i don't like it being up like i would take his opinion into consideration
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would you do it for the perfect guy not just into consideration just instantly oh my god yes you're
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right i'm gonna take it down would you ever do that it depends on the circumstance like if if i'm
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like married to a guy or something and he's like yeah like this one post that you posted like i don't
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want other people seeing like your body in this way or something i would be like okay you know what that
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i can get behind that i can understand why you feel that way and i'll take it down to make you feel
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better but if he's like i don't want you doing instagram i don't want you doing photography i don't want
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you making art i think that like i think that's just weird i think it's like not cool okay well
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then don't follow me like don't what do you think i was just gonna say what she pretty much just said
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i think like there's like a boundary for like what you can control like not even control but like
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there's some things that's just like there's no reason why you should be making your partner take
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this off their social media it's just what if there is no reason what if it's just my preference
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well then i think that's kind of like an issue on your behalf like you shouldn't like yeah you want
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a submissive person but like are you in a relationship can i ask you that or are you
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single right now too i can't disclose my current okay well i said we we have to but i mean i can
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engage with your question okay i can engage with your question regardless but okay well that makes it a
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little hard to continue but um just go continue as if i was in a relationship then as if well that
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was not the answer i was expecting so i would just or oh you were saying i was single or yeah okay sure
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for the sake of the question i'm saying well i just think that like well one i'd say there's a reason to
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that probably because you want to well i wouldn't say you're controlling like you don't seem like that
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type of person but like you see you sure maybe i'm just trying to glaze but you see the way he
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dictates yeah i just think like the right person like the perfect person would not tell me what to
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do would not tell me what i can and can't post and like i think like if you're doing that to your
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partner it stems from insecurity in a sense where like why should it matter what they're putting out
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there if like you're with them at the end of the day i don't think it's insecure to like not want
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your girl to not post thirst traps in a relationship i think it's just a matter of respect because you
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have to be really honest you have to be really honest with yourself like what is your intentions
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when you're posting those things like when you're posting an ass shot you want guys to slide in your
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dms and tell you that your ass looks flat necessarily then what are you doing it for freedom of body like
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it's a way to express yourself freedom of body is a theme in photography and it's a way to express
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like like the artwork of body like you ever go into an art museum and you see a sculpture of a naked
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lady or a naked man it's freedom of body yeah or like if you go to a gym and like
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let's say you have gains and stuff yeah you might want to post that and like i'd respect it it's not
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gains is different than an ass shot but i mean if you're going to the gym you'll be if you're
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building your butt you're going to want to post your butt right like why why do you have to post
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your butt well you don't have to but that's just like how like women have been able to it's like how
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guys will post your biceps topless pics and not get back i mean well i shouldn't do that you shouldn't
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do that but other people um women have had happy lives prior to instagram like this idea that uh
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publicizing all aspects of your otherwise unremarkable life are necessity to fulfillment
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and happiness seems a little bit shallow but um i just look by the way to be fair i'm a bit older if
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i didn't do this i wouldn't even have an instagram i don't follow people on instagram i just don't give
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a fuck i don't i don't care what you ate i don't care where you travel to correct i don't follow
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anybody i i don't know people are just a little too self-obsessed with themselves when it comes to
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social media but like teach their own dear thing right and maybe we're just from a different time
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like i didn't like you don't use social media but i'm sure like the people your age that are like
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your friends probably also don't use social media but like in our day now there's media there's gen z that
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barely there's there's strong adoption of social media among millennials but uh i mean we were the
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first ones in fact to use it but uh i mean i almost wonder if i was on facebook before some of you guys
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were born but that's another conversation to be had uh no but i think i mean i would point out that
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there's probably 18 19 20 21 year old men who they don't want their girlfriend posting revealing photos
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on instagram but let me ask you a question uh are you guys cool if you're dating a guy and he's
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liking another girl's uh instagram post 1000 you're you're fine with it okay i've heard a lot of women
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who are not okay with it i'm okay with it well it depends on what the post is uh the the specific
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the content that we're exactly talking about so a booty a booty shot at the gym i don't that's well
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i wouldn't be okay with it but also that's never really been that seems really insecure and controlling
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one of you really yeah by the way what you call insecurity i call uh boundaries and standards
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i would be totally okay with it in the context of it being i mean any context but first of all
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like look at my instagram i'm posting it from an art perspective i'm posting it from right a creative
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perspective so if he's liking another model's post of like her i don't know say it's her ass or whatever
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but it's like done in like a way where she's like like clearly being creative and just expressing
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herself i'd be like he's admiring like this work we've really trampled on the grave of the term art
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but yeah but so wait you said you would have an issue if uh the guy was liking other girls instagram
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posts or like following a bunch of like ig thoughts well i'd have an issue not with the girl but with the
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guy with your boyfriend or whoever you're seeing but i'm not gonna be like no i'm not gonna dm the
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girl and be like you should take this down my boyfriend's in the legs like that's out of line
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you know what i mean you should probably have not an issue with the girl but you'd have an issue with
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your your guy yeah but these are sort of two sides of the same i probably just break up with him at
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that point it's just like but these are two sides of the same coin so if and i think it's totally okay
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for women to have an issue with your boyfriend liking other women's posts following a bunch of ig models
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whatever um but the trade-off i think should be if i agree with you there i think the trade-off needs
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to be you as the woman in the relationship you shouldn't be putting that content out there
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like you shouldn't be posting kind of revealing photos uh whether it's in a bikini i don't have a
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major issue with it why why uh well i think generally relationship-minded men tend to have a leaning
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towards uh not wanting their woman to be advertising people are gonna put you in a box
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regardless people are gonna like have thoughts about you and put you into different stereotypes
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different like you know people might look at my instagram and be like oh she's a slut or oh whatever
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like i don't care but you don't need to make it easier for them to do that yeah you don't carry
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yourself with humility even if it's like i know what i'm posting is for me and i know that it's me
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being true to myself and expressing myself in a way that feels authentic to myself and i'm not saying
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you can't do that but like if you were like because one thing you were saying is what if i'm artistically
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doing it well i'm still gonna be mad at i don't care what your intention in posting this is is my
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husband boyfriend whatever he can't like it no matter what the girl's intention was
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so like and i don't think that's insecure but i mean to each their own yeah everyone has different
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boundaries right yeah and and my boundaries might be different but i don't think it's like it's
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somewhat like i don't think you can call someone insecure for not agreeing i didn't say anyone was
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insecure okay so even if you are artistically showing whatever you're showing and you communicate
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this to the person that your partner and he's telling you i'm actually i'm not okay with this
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yes and he's like and he's like well it depends on what he's asking if he's like you need to delete
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your entire social media presence that i'm gonna be just the photo one photo or one video oh then
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yeah i would consider it and i would take into account what he's saying and i would like have
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it would be a conversation and i would obviously like listen to his point of view but if he's like
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i don't want you doing making this kind of art anymore like it's not my vibe then i'd be like
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maybe i'm not for you well i think it's fine for you i i guess your position can be fine
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but don't do a thing where when he's liking other girls instagram posts and following a bunch of ig
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models don't have an issue with it i don't have an issue with it i don't okay well then that's
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totally fine i don't i think there's no contradiction well i think first of all if he's following other
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instagram model he's admiring someone else's beauty and that in my opinion i'm fine with that i don't
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care it's an instagram photo it's a photo with it a lot of women do have an issue with their
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boyfriend following a bunch of other women liking their stuff um so i i think fair what's fair is
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fair would be if the man has to stop following girls and not be by the way men shouldn't be doing
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that shit period to begin with regardless of if you're in a relationship or not mention be doing
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that shit it's simp it's lame it's borderline pornographic coomer bullshit men shouldn't be doing
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it depends on the type of stuff you're liking but i mean he's talking about the gooner stuff
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i love simps well no i mean they're my faves even just like some college girl that you go to college
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with and bikini pics like i don't think you should be liking that shit that's fucking lame
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um but uh so i don't think it has to be even transactional the man shouldn't be doing it to begin
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with but i think if you're a relationship-minded man i think it's uh you should have the woman
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i i want to frame it like this so men and women have different sexual strategies they have
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different romantic strategies women typically don't shoot their shot women typically uh don't
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slide into dms sometimes they do okay but generally speaking women don't approach a guy shoot game run
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game whatever is blah blah blah women will put themselves in position they'll they'll go to the event
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and wait for men to come to them you'll make yourself put yourself in the position to be approached but
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you won't approach men have a more proactive approach to dating we shoot our shot we approach you whether
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that's uh do you want to grab like a paper towel for that men will shoot their shot women you are less
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you're more passive generally speaking when it comes to dating not saying that it never happens obviously
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sometimes you'll shoot a dm maybe you'll right but in today's society it's more accepted for like
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men to be the one to go out it's always been more yeah that's yeah it's actually i'd say it's becoming
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actually more a bit more likely that women shoot their shot today but i know what you're saying right
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but so the ways in which men act when they're single that shit gets shut down once a guy's in a
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relationship so you would agree that it's cheating if a guy's in a relationship to shoot a shot
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depends on your boundaries but yeah i mean for a monogamous relationship yeah 99 of relationships
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a guy hitting on a girl is definitely cheating uh well yeah sliding into dms definitely cheating
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now if you're in a monogamous the tactics and methods that women use to get into a relationship
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that doesn't get shut down so there's an inequality there what do you mean by that
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well so for example going to the bar going to the club going out to parties um
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post it okay so for example a woman won't slide into a guy's dms but she'll post photos on instagram
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she'll post stories and then guys will like react to the stories or slide into the dms when she posts
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like if she posts like revealing pictures women are uh i think the term is
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y'all are women are marketers and men are advertisers wait hold on let me think i i totally
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fucked that up disregard that it's just women are more passive y'all put yourself in positions to
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be approached and be pursued but women don't pursue on that let some do but they're really not pursuing
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like that some women yeah but yeah but some women but the point i'm trying to make here is that i
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think when you're in a relationship both people have to shut shut down their edge so the man's edge
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is to be the pursuit be the pursuer women don't shut down now there's obviously some scenarios where
05:16:11.940
obviously look you go to trader joe's as a woman some guy hits on you you can't that's gonna happen
05:16:17.220
right but the ways in which when you put yourself in specific social situations like going to the
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bar going to the club going to a party these are very specific uh social venues where there's
05:16:30.500
an expectation that you're going to be pursued you're going to be approached there's alcohol
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involved which has a greater likelihood of leading to cheating or infidelity and uh the social media so
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the dating uh not the date there's instagram you're posting you're still posting thirst traps in a
05:16:46.340
relationship i think if men we have to get rid of our edge in a relationship our tool set in a
05:16:53.060
relationship with uh pursuing and approaching and sliding into dms then women have to give
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up their edge which is advertising which is marketing which is putting yourself out there
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posting revealing photos and going to these environments where you're going to be approached
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like at the bar club or party um just can't go out then you can go to dinner you can go to brunch
05:17:16.980
do you think you can go to environments where it's designed to pick up chicks but can you go to
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college is that okay uh well so my position i mean it's a bit different so okay i don't go to the bar
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so me personally i don't drink i don't go to bars i don't go clubs i don't go to parties don't drink
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don't smoke don't do any of that shit i think it's personally i think these i don't know maybe i'm
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old and jaded why the these okay you're gonna go you're gonna wait in line a fake line by the way
05:17:50.180
the fucking club is empty they're just trying to make themselves look cool you're gonna wait in some
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line and they're holding people back you're gonna fucking the bouncers are dickheads you're gonna uh
05:18:00.420
pay fucking twenty dollars for a drink that you could just go to bevmo and just buy a whole
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fucking handle of that's from a guy's perspective and the lights the lights and the smoke and it's
05:18:11.860
fucking you can't even have a conversation why the fuck would you go to a bar or club it's not
05:18:15.220
that's your autism speaking is it wrong i don't like it's for a girl well so i don't think men should
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be going to the clubs and bars to begin with like that's wait so men can't enjoy music what if it was
05:18:27.780
a rave for example oh hold on oh shit spotify every single song ever invented is on spotify why the
05:18:33.940
fuck do i have to go to a club to listen to music social and maybe dance have you ever
05:18:38.020
maybe you can go to a concert have you ever you know i can go oh dance do you dance oh my god
05:18:42.580
dance dancing hold on let me finish my point uh so the difference is though if i if i'm a single dude
05:18:51.540
and there's a single woman and she goes to the club and i go to the club and i just have my drink
05:18:56.020
here and i'm just kicking it at the fucking bar or somewhere in the club i'm just standing there i'm
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just oh yeah the music uh no women are coming to talk to me women don't really do that i could go
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to a bar 10 nights in a row and i'll be fucking lonely as fuck no women are coming up to guys
05:19:13.140
really so why are you so scared a woman goes to a club you can almost guarantee some guy's going to
05:19:19.540
come talk to her maybe one two three four five six multiple times a night and so it's a different
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environment if a woman goes to a club she's going to be pursued i go to a club
05:19:28.900
you might get ain't nobody talking to me no girls trying to buy me a drink
05:19:34.420
well why are you trying to be around single girls yeah wait i'm not okay aren't you famous why don't
05:19:39.700
they want you um wait what wait i think it was just an example i i think no i was just using an
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example yeah but there are some cases they just slide into the dms but even sorry yeah it's okay um
05:19:48.900
there's some cases where i think like it's still like putting yourself out there being around single
05:19:55.140
women if if she's fine with it then okay fine you can go to the bar you can go to go to the club but
05:20:00.340
if she's not okay with it then there's a reason behind it like would you honor her opinion for you
05:20:07.940
i know you don't care to go to clubs or bars anyways and okay so then you're kind of biased so
05:20:13.700
it's hard to i i guess but i mean the the experience is completely different a girl goes to a club she
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gets hit on a guy goes to the club he just fucking stands there like a dork all night and no girls are
05:20:26.500
like okay want some pussy but but you you as a girl go to a club but why put yourself in an environment
05:20:31.220
where girls are like half naked and is that right but i'm saying is the the difference is go to the
05:20:37.380
club in lingerie the difference is it's a different kind of club the difference is is that women's
05:20:42.180
strategy when it comes to if they're single they go to the club with the expectation they're not
05:20:47.060
if a woman is trying to get dick like let's say a woman's really trying to get some dick
05:20:51.540
uh she can still reliably go to the nightclub and never shoot her shot and just uh filter of the
05:20:59.380
men who come to her so women can have a strategy of going to the club and being passive and still be
05:21:05.380
on the hunt for some dick however as a guy i can never have the strategy of i'm gonna go to
05:21:10.900
the club and not talk to any women i'm not gonna go i can't go to the club and that be my strategy
05:21:16.420
as a man i'm not gonna i'm just gonna sit back and let the women come to me because i'm so
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fucking cool no i'm gonna never get pussy for the next decade if i do that never i'll be fucking
05:21:27.780
celibate i don't think your rate of success has anything to do with it though either no it's related
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well okay but it's not gonna make me as your as a girlfriend feel any more comfortable with it i
05:21:37.940
still think something's wrong i'm not justifying why i go to the club i'm saying even if i did go to the
05:21:42.340
club and okay so here's the the equality i guess uh girl in relationship goes to club man in
05:21:50.340
relationship goes to the club neither can proactively approach the opposite sex man talks to zero
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fucking women the entire night woman talks to a handful of men maybe many men the night because
05:22:05.780
they're pursuing her okay here's and they're fucking gonna hammer her with fucking drinks
05:22:11.140
and the women the woman's gonna get free drinks and let hey as the guy i'm gonna i want to protect
05:22:15.700
my girl you want to go to the club and get fucking roofied no some fucking dipshit frat boy is going
05:22:21.540
to try to roofie your fucking drink at the club you're not going to the club that's why there's members
05:22:25.540
only clubs you can still get what the you can still get fucking slipped to something in your
05:22:29.780
drink if you're like the whole like everyone goes out in college like you can get slipped it
05:22:34.660
doesn't even have to be at a bar even at a restaurant someone can walk by and roof your
05:22:37.860
drink i feel like your perspective on like oh women shouldn't if you're or your girlfriend at least
05:22:41.940
shouldn't go to clubs it's more you should donald's okay well focus but anywhere your girl can get hit
05:22:47.300
on if she's beautiful she's gonna get hit on anywhere at the club like i feel like you saying that she's
05:22:52.020
not allowed to go it's less about like other people hitting on her but like i think it comes down to
05:22:55.780
like your girl being loyal like if she was a loyal person club or not she's not going to entertain
05:23:00.900
those guys people like honestly even for me like being out in public no matter where you are guys
05:23:05.780
are going to hit on you but it's just up to what you do about it because the loyal girl is going to
05:23:09.140
be loyal not just at home but everywhere she goes and if she's not loyal then i think that's just a
05:23:12.980
skill issue and you need a new girl but yeah but do you believe in temptation do you believe in
05:23:16.820
mistakes i believe in no temptation i don't believe i would never cheat on my boyfriend so wait do you
05:23:21.140
you think in the history of relationships a girl has never regretted cheating i'm sure there is
05:23:26.660
regret but i feel like regret does not change reality even if you regret it you be accountable
05:23:32.340
for your actions your partner will does not deserve you i don't here's the scenario what do you mean
05:23:36.180
here's the scenario okay so okay uh let's say you're fighting with your girl let's say you just had a big
05:23:41.540
fight with your girl and she's like i'm going out and then she goes out with all her single female
05:23:46.660
friends who fucking hate the boyfriend because he done step stolen the girl the boyfriend stole
05:23:53.300
the girl and the the single female friends they want to go do hood ratchet with their single female
05:23:58.420
friend they want their friend back you've been you've been hanging out at rupert's house way too much
05:24:03.780
you haven't been doing some hood ratchet with us so they're like man fuck rupert that motherfucker
05:24:09.060
man well maybe they just want to have girls like his dick ain't even that big they be talking
05:24:12.740
mad about your boyfriend they're talking matches about rupert and they're just oh uh vicky right
05:24:19.380
yeah victoria here's some shots and they just fucking give you a bunch of drinks and they get
05:24:25.620
you fucking plastered and oh my god and they're in your ear the entire night oh my god vicky he's
05:24:30.420
such a jerk he's such an asshole oh my god you he he's fucking mid blah blah you're so beautiful
05:24:36.260
you deserve better blah blah oh my god here's bartholomew uh you should fucking oh my god he's so cool
05:24:41.700
and funny hahaha and then you're fucking plastered and then uh oopsies but i'm just saying it could
05:24:49.460
happen it could happen and then like that's i still wouldn't think that's a mistake like you
05:24:54.100
cheated regardless i feel like even then like it comes down to like your mental well i also i think
05:25:00.660
i mean look even if she's like deathly loyal and would never cheat uh then it would just come down to
05:25:06.500
uh the the optics of it and then also just the risk of i doubt that she would never cheat she would
05:25:13.540
never cheat but bad things can happen when people are drinking uh maybe maybe it's not even like uh
05:25:19.140
i don't know nothing gets slipped in the drink but she gets into some fucking cat fight her weave gets
05:25:24.740
pulled off not that i date women who wear weaves but oh no she gets into a big fight with some chick
05:25:29.380
and i don't want my girl getting into fights and shit i don't want her to get hurt she's supposed to
05:25:33.940
have fucking seven of my children i can't have her with a fucked up leg or some seven children yeah i
05:25:40.020
can't have her with a fucked up leg and then also she should um oh shit cha i saw i'm sorry i'm just
05:25:48.500
seeing your tts i'll let it come through in just a moment sorry cha i'm very apology apologetic for the
05:25:53.620
delay uh also it's just uh you know i optically i think it's a bad look on a guy if some girl's out
05:26:02.740
there dancing and i don't know well like dancing with what with her friends i don't think with a
05:26:09.300
dude like some dude's gonna start but then that's different that's just like again that's like a skill
05:26:13.300
issue that you're like as a girl you shouldn't like guys are just gonna be grabby and shit i don't
05:26:17.940
want my girl look by the way that's completely wrong for men to do but like it look some sometimes
05:26:23.300
guys are fucking scumbags at these places and i want to insulate my my girlfriend from
05:26:29.140
potentially risky or dangerous situations and look i think this is a perfectly reasonable uh
05:26:35.780
boundary to have if you're a relationship-minded man and you want to protect the relationship
05:26:40.420
with her i've seen so many boyfriends that's even worse it's even worse because then some dude
05:26:46.020
fucking uh you walk by and some dude grabs your ass then you come to me oh my god that dude grabbed my
05:26:51.780
ass and he's like fucking six foot five and 300 pounds and you're like brian are you gonna do
05:26:55.700
anything uh no he's your girlfriend now i guess i'm not gonna fuck what you you want me to go fight
05:27:01.140
some fucking giant dude i'm not gonna no then you're going to the go to the gym no but it's like by the
05:27:08.980
way you go out with your girl i'm telling you look i used to go out a little bit a teeny bit when i was
05:27:13.780
younger i like your local bar or something you go out you go out with your girl the amount of times i've
05:27:20.820
seen girls get their boyfriends sparked up you oh my god you girls because i think women y'all will
05:27:29.380
talk some shit when you're drunk in the game as a woman you will talk some shit to a man and if i'm
05:27:34.660
next to you i'm like shut the fuck up you're about to get me fucking sparked lady y'all women will get
05:27:41.220
your boyfriend's fucking little fucking literal brain damage you'll get them sparked up some guy says
05:27:47.140
some dumb shit because he's drunk hey toots nice fucking ass or whatever i don't know nice tits
05:27:51.700
sugar tits whatever and then i gotta be and then you look at me like you're gonna let him talk to
05:27:56.420
me that way you're gonna let me yeah exactly talk to me that way yeah i don't want to be put in that
05:28:01.060
position bro if i gotta protect you then what what are you there for if it's not for protection or
05:28:06.100
anything like what do i need you for what values you add to a woman's life if i gotta protect you i need
05:28:11.140
authority over you if i have to protect you i need authority and if in my authoritative decision
05:28:17.540
i'm like you going out to nightclubs and getting belligerently drunk sounds like a
05:28:22.180
fucking terrible idea and you're gonna mouth off to somebody and you're gonna get in a fight with
05:28:26.660
a girl or you're gonna mouth off to some guy and he's not gonna punch you in the face he's gonna be
05:28:30.740
like oh there's the boyfriend bow fucking blast me in the face i feel like there's a lot of trauma
05:28:35.540
yeah this is like going into like a specific scenario this shit happens all the time the
05:28:41.060
amount of yo when shit pops off it's some girl bro it's some girl i'm not saying it's her fault but
05:28:50.580
like when shit pops off with guys a lot of times there's a fucking girl involved okay so i was with
05:28:56.980
someone who started fights at bars it wasn't me like it was him he was always yes that happens
05:29:03.300
starting things and i i'm not a person a lot of what you're saying i feel like oh like that's not
05:29:08.260
me at all like i don't really like going out i'm not saying all women are like this we said you women
05:29:12.980
you women speaking in generalities a little bit look i'm just saying it's a bad look you go you go
05:29:19.620
out drinking with your girlfriend look some women they drink they're just quiet whatever some of y'all
05:29:24.660
are fucking mouthy especially when you've drank alcohol and some guy says something inconsiderate
05:29:30.580
next thing you know i gotta defend my woman's honor because he said some drunk guy said some
05:29:35.300
dumb shit she's drunk she's all upset i'd rather just avoid the whole thing can we just watch
05:29:40.580
fucking uh game of thrones and fuck like can't we just have a quiet night in do we have to really we
05:29:45.940
have to go out to fucking spend twenty dollars for a drink i'll go buy some fucking coronas we're
05:29:52.660
gonna watch game of thrones we're gonna watch a night of the seven kingdom well you can do both
05:29:57.300
like some nights you go out some nights you stay in you just never go out you just never leave
05:30:01.620
you just like chain to the bed in your house that's basically how it is is it a normal like
05:30:06.420
man thing to like want to stay inside and like watch a movie and then like fuck is that like a normal
05:30:11.060
man thing because my man like we went to the bar because i wanted to see the fight and i was like well
05:30:15.460
then we can go home and like cuddle and stuff right and like he did not really like the idea of being at
05:30:21.060
a bar it was going to be a low-key bar because to get like wings and stuff but he didn't like it
05:30:24.900
um is so is it just a man thing uh is it just a man thing i mean like it depends on the man like
05:30:31.620
it depends on the man some i'm more introverted maybe your ex-boyfriend or whatever was more
05:30:35.780
introverted he's quite introverted yeah i mean uh me personally we can watch the ufc here i'll watch
05:30:44.100
a ufc match uh with my girl at the house we don't gotta go to the bar yeah like what if she wanted to
05:30:52.100
go like wouldn't you want to do it for her similar to how like no the woman should acquiesce to the
05:30:56.580
man we should ask each other to each other compromise no if you look you're gonna have
05:31:02.420
a hard time finding the dictator no actually no well women love this shit but but uh i guess i'm lucky
05:31:10.100
that he went with me then he's such a hand if you love this shit love what i agree whatever he just said
05:31:16.020
i i don't like going out i want to stay home i don't want to pay i don't want to stand in line
05:31:20.260
to use the restroom i don't like any of that it's cold but i mean stay in the comfort of our house
05:31:26.020
we can yeah yeah i used to have fun that isn't like i find i find it you can play pokemon go at
05:31:33.140
the park please one of the time i was saying you could play pokemon go at the park like that's a
05:31:38.580
free activity that's fun i think i'll go to the beach with a girl we can go to the beach together i
05:31:43.220
know the best time i know the best beaches in santa barbara i know the best time to go we've had some
05:31:48.500
great weather recently yeah like that's okay you know but i don't the bar nah i don't really like
05:31:54.580
big there are plenty of places for good dates that don't include the bar i do absolutely agree with you
05:31:59.940
no but i do look i do think you know a little the woman should acquiesce to the man
05:32:05.460
this is the clip farming segment no it's not there's no clip there's no clip farm look ladies
05:32:17.140
i think i think women should defer to a man's decision making and if i decide that's your
05:32:22.340
opinion and you're entitled to that opinion right it is my right we respect i agree but okay do you want
05:32:27.620
to date a guy who when do you want to date a guy when god damn it fucking dropping shit hold on
05:32:37.140
oh my god exactly okay my bad uh do you want to date a guy who you're like okay uh what do you want
05:32:45.620
for dinner and he's like whatever you want no i know in every single fucking instance every single
05:32:54.340
meal i know exactly what i want there's some girls like that too though i know exactly why does
05:33:00.820
dinner relate to this why does dinner relate to this whatever you want babe no i've never those
05:33:05.220
wait but why does those words have never left my mouth oh whatever you want babe no we're getting
05:33:10.500
fucking burritos no we're getting fucking pizza no we're getting oh she's not cooking i mean if you're
05:33:15.780
getting it if you're paying well yes also you're i mean if you're cooking then like why does this
05:33:20.900
relate to what we were talking about before yeah no i'll tell her what she's gonna cook too i guess
05:33:25.620
are you gonna buy the groceries yeah i cover everything everything look you don't want you
05:33:30.740
guys to understand the frame here so okay whoever i'm with long term she doesn't have to work everything's
05:33:36.900
taken care of she doesn't need everything what if she wants to work will you let her would that
05:33:42.500
make her feel in superior it would depend it would depend it would feel in superior ladies
05:33:45.940
that's not my preference i think also we gotta pump out seven kids she's gonna be that's her job
05:33:50.740
oh her job is to breathe seven kids hold on um but before you guys have kids like say she already
05:33:56.180
got a degree in something that she was like passionate about that she went to college for
05:33:59.060
i'm not saying like she's doing sex work or she's doing sure social media because you already
05:34:03.780
expressed that those things aren't something you look for in a partner of course but like say she
05:34:07.860
like you know she has this thing she's really passionate about doing and she's like put her all into
05:34:12.100
it she's gone to college for four years or whatever got a degree and like she's happy doing work why to
05:34:19.540
be fair i am a bit of individualistic in the sense that i enjoy time alone i need some time alone uh
05:34:27.300
so i mean when we don't have kids then yeah you know she can preoccupy herself with with uh her career
05:34:34.420
and uh but i mean ultimately like if we're living together and we don't have kids yet yeah i mean i'll
05:34:40.980
take some of her money and like buy guns or something but there it is but yeah i mean
05:34:48.340
i don't know if that answers your question i guess yeah like her money is my money basically so is your
05:34:54.820
money her money too no wait can i uh tilt your mic down oh i have a question her money her money is going
05:35:00.900
to be used to buy firearms would you let her own a firearm sure okay yeah she can have guns i guess
05:35:07.940
um well when earlier her money is my money for firearms earlier when you said that like when you
05:35:14.340
had if you have a girlfriend long term um you're gonna financially cover everything and like whatever
05:35:18.820
she just takes care of the kids like everything i feel like there's okay i want to ask a clarifying
05:35:22.980
question are you the type to like have her like run through all her purchases with you or like when
05:35:28.260
you say you're providing for her financially like you mean like you're like let's say if she wanted to
05:35:32.260
buy a new bag does she have to ask you before that or can she just do it probably a purse like
05:35:36.260
a purse or like something fun something that's not like groceries or for the family if she wanted to
05:35:40.980
use that with your money would you be okay with that he's not gonna date girls with a fashion sense
05:35:44.340
let's be honest so i'm gonna bare hands no purse 100 a trader joe's back let me answer the question
05:35:53.300
i'm gonna 100 cover everything however i'm still going to have oversight and authority
05:35:58.740
over specific purchases uh amazon has fantastic handbags available for okay i hope you find your
05:36:06.980
amazon wife 20 to 50 dollars uh you think you think even if i'm a millionaire you think she's gonna
05:36:14.660
get a fucking what louis vuitton she's not getting a fucking birkin and you're getting seven kids
05:36:22.820
why i know you're a fan of materialism but definitely yeah but why does she need my my
05:36:28.260
woman is is not going to care about these material she's a basic bitch do you need i love
05:36:35.380
to care about material stuff it's giving great then if if that's what it means that i i'm going to have
05:36:42.580
a basic bitch who doesn't want to waste money from my perspective uh look maybe if i'm like obscenely
05:36:49.140
what is wasting money to you like what do you think some expenses that like usual girls have yeah so the
05:36:53.620
actual costs of making a purse say it's 20 but because a company has a brand and a logo they're
05:37:02.580
going to charge five thousand dollars for it but if it makes that's retarded but it's a welt flex
05:37:08.260
don't you want like don't you think it like looks better for you too if like your girl is like
05:37:12.260
dressed well blah blah it makes you look well she's not going to be in rags but like but like
05:37:16.820
she's going to have the newest no wait wait she's chained to the kitchen oh the newest kirkland
05:37:21.940
okay change the bed hey they have some nice stuff stuff okay okay okay don't knock it's very
05:37:29.780
amazon basics okay better amazon basics three-pack for ten bucks
05:37:36.900
not like want to but like let's say it made her happy like she really wanted it
05:37:40.980
wouldn't you want your wife to be happy wouldn't you want to get it for her well i would screen for a
05:37:44.820
woman who's derives happiness from possession of a five thousand dollar bag over a ton the bag is for
05:37:51.540
utility but you want her to carry around the firearm sorry this shit just blows my mind like
05:37:56.340
americans yeah firearms have a utility like what is this the firearms have a utility the
05:38:00.580
shit doesn't happen but what if she's really into high fashion like that's her hobby and interest
05:38:05.380
i don't think you'll get like she says she'll probably he probably won't get with someone like
05:38:08.340
like that i want a simple woman i want a simple woman who doesn't want to fuck it what what's this
05:38:15.300
draw to a fucking you want a birkin bag what well it's like how guys want like i don't know the best
05:38:22.100
skin pack in fortnight or something that's stupid too okay that's like my analogy if that makes sense
05:38:28.580
or like a guy wants a nice car a nice watch it's the same idea utility okay well i have to put
05:38:34.500
about a bag as utility to i hold stuff in it no like your lip gloss your keys a car doesn't have
05:38:38.820
to be fancy to get you somewhere you know it just has to work but it sure does look better if it's
05:38:43.220
nicer right like well i mean certain luxury cars have actual superior amenities and safety like lexus
05:38:50.500
for example has certain like actual utility advantages over other but of course some of it is
05:38:58.740
there's some different components but like a lamborghini
05:39:00.900
i mean then you're just paying now you're paying for a brand ferrari you're paying for a brand now
05:39:05.380
if i was obscenely wealthy but what's wrong with that maybe i would buy a lamborghini look it depends
05:39:10.900
the level of wealth right uh i think some people have different thresholds but i don't know i don't think
05:39:18.020
i would buy i would want 10 million liquid before i bought like a lamborghini that's my threshold other
05:39:29.860
people they're like oh well i'm uh they'll buy a lambo or ferrari at 3m i personally think that that's
05:39:37.780
kind of stupid but to each their own so you're just talking about making good and smart investments
05:39:43.860
well yeah i also you know who knows how what the future holds but gotta pump out a lot of kids kids
05:39:50.580
you know that's gonna cost some money so we're gonna have to sacrifice our own vain material
05:39:56.580
pursuits for the sake of the children and then also for the sake of like i i want a really nice
05:40:03.140
house like i think you can maximize i'd rather maximize like nice house and uh having like more
05:40:11.540
land or you know it's really modern or i'm trying to think like with seven kids don't you need like
05:40:18.260
10 million dollars or like a lot of money in this economy to house that many kids not 10
05:40:22.580
uh maybe you know you need uh he's driving around you probably need like five five five six
05:40:30.660
five six bedrooms and i do think i'm gonna have my kids two to a bedroom oh i find this quite
05:40:37.140
interesting actually my dad came here when he was two from germany and he got a degree in german
05:40:43.300
literature never used it wasn't usable he ended up joining the police force and when i was growing up
05:40:48.980
he was he he was uh retired as a sergeant he would wear costco he would wear kirkland and he told me
05:40:54.260
in his life all he needs is three uh stores big five walmart and costco and when i was growing up
05:40:59.940
i got nothing that i wanted i had to work for whatever i wanted if it was like a special i really
05:41:06.100
liked video games so i like saved it to buy my own computer and now at his age of retirement he is
05:41:12.900
i can't it's just he's a multi-millionaire he drove a civic actually his whole life because
05:41:19.380
he taught me that like wealth is not displayed it's like internal like do you see like bill gates
05:41:26.020
carrying around like a louis pouch like honestly no because it's like it's a thing to make you feel
05:41:30.980
better like honestly those small sacrifices along the way like literally like set my dad up to provide
05:41:37.220
for his children and my children and their children and it was because we only wore walmart
05:41:42.900
stuff growing up even though we lived in the nicest neighborhood in california it was it was it's a very
05:41:48.260
fascinating thing because then i see like now at this point in my life i try to save money i do uh
05:41:54.100
stocks i try to invest when i can and i drove around my mom's beat-up car for god knows how long and i
05:42:00.500
actually was able to get a mustang recently and i felt really great about that because i made such
05:42:04.100
sacrifices for a long time i'm not saying that there's things that i don't storage on like my
05:42:07.700
hair costs more than my rent but there's certain things where it's like you know oh my gosh i i
05:42:12.900
work really hard i like to buy myself nice things but like nice things in the category of like okay my
05:42:18.260
car is like gonna get me from point a to point b but it's also like on the nicer end because i
05:42:23.060
sacrificed xyz for a while so i feel like there's a balance in life that my dad really taught me that's
05:42:27.780
like helped me to become successful where like you can enjoy nice things because life is worth living i
05:42:32.340
work hard i like to kind of you know reward so what are you what's your opinion like a middle
05:42:35.780
ground if your wife was like yo like we both work really hard i want to change my hair to blonde and
05:42:41.460
she has black hair that's gonna cost just just think hypothetically that costs a thousand plus
05:42:46.340
dollars how would you feel about that does it really cost a thousand dollars wow what a waste of money
05:42:51.060
i mean uh if it my initial knee-jerk reaction gut reaction is that's a total waste of money
05:43:01.220
you already got me you don't need to change your appearance maybe out of novelty it might be
05:43:06.740
intriguing but i i'm leaning towards no probably on the hair even if you have the money why can't
05:43:13.140
you just bleach your day i have the money to buy uh oh let me do the tts but i look i i could buy like
05:43:20.420
well i could brought buy like a ferrari lamborghini i could afford it i could afford it i could buy it
05:43:30.020
but it's just it doesn't make sense i still drive a car i bought 12 years ago okay i'd rather put
05:43:36.020
myself in like a really strong financial position for the future uh let me look at this chat through i
05:43:41.300
apologize for the delay you're not wearing a lot of clothes dressed as some character or something
05:43:48.900
isn't out you're not creative you're not an artist stop coping about it and just admit you want
05:43:55.380
attention maximum no one is fooled mary can you max the audio he paid a hundred dollars for that ego
05:44:02.660
at least i think and and i want to just say i want to just say that i'm my posts on instagram are
05:44:09.780
posted for me and me only and it's not going to be everyone's thing if you're going to say something
05:44:14.820
like that then then don't you know it's not everyone's thing don't follow my shit don't you
05:44:19.700
know it's okay he paid a hundred dollars donated 99 dollars yo what's up i remember your favorite brit
05:44:26.660
is back surely you remember the name did you watch the michael trailer looks lit you're gonna watch
05:44:33.380
it you've been to neverland so you might be in it hashtag michael is king uh yeah thank you appreciate
05:44:40.100
it man uh i hope you uh moonwalk later tonight i guess he's a michael jackson fan i don't know uh
05:44:47.620
i haven't seen the trailer i didn't even know there was a michael who's playing somebody is there is
05:44:52.020
a biopic or something i don't know it's a biopic his nephew's playing oh i saw the poster for it
05:44:58.180
yeah yeah that that's all i haven't seen the trailer though it looks good um thank you adzils
05:45:03.460
good to see you look if i if i had a bunch of money would i buy her a bag probably not but she
05:45:10.420
wouldn't want one is the thing okay yeah she's out there somewhere it's like it's just a why do
05:45:16.500
y'all want the bag you can buy a bag the same bag basically a bag is an analogy
05:45:21.940
i'm saying like in general like if she has a request financially would you be able to
05:45:27.140
cope with that that's not just i'm going off like not even just financially say she has a request
05:45:31.940
where she's like hey like i don't want you going to the bar with your friends like would you
05:45:35.940
be okay i wouldn't go to i don't go to the bar period but say you say you would go out with your
05:45:40.180
friends to the bar like i don't know just to like have drinks and stuff like nothing like weird but
05:45:44.420
like say she was like i'm not comfortable with that would you cater to her like decision i guess
05:45:48.980
probably not on that front but you wouldn't allow her to go to the bar or the club so where's the
05:45:55.220
double standard well women okay for example uh do you go on dates sometimes i've been on a date
05:46:03.380
before yeah do you want a guy to pay for her first dates do you want a guy to pay for the date
05:46:08.100
it would be nice but i don't care really like i would be fine with splitting the check
05:46:11.860
have you yeah yeah i've actually paid first date i've actually first date i've actually not some
05:46:18.420
guy you've been fucking for three years i uh first date first date have i paid for the food yeah i
05:46:24.100
paid for my own food actually you pay for his food i paid for his food too how many days have you been
05:46:29.060
on not very many okay i don't i'm not on dating apps like i don't really like i don't know look i
05:46:34.500
think there's asymmetry in behavior in treatment in what men and women want uh
05:46:41.940
for example a woman could say i want a guy to pay for the first date would you you agree with that
05:46:48.260
that's true for a lot of women a lot of women yeah okay do you think it'd be an effective
05:46:53.460
argumentation from my part to say well would you pay for a date yeah how would it be effective
05:46:59.940
it's asymmetry i think okay i think it's demanded asymmetry well i think it's like if like say i was
05:47:05.060
going on a date with a guy and he was like you know i'm a broke college student i can't afford like
05:47:09.620
can we split the can we split the check i don't know you yeah sure no but it wouldn't be a defeat
05:47:14.740
it wouldn't be a defeater to the female position of if the if the woman says i want a man to pay for
05:47:19.860
the first date it's not a defeater to her wanting that by saying well would you pay for the first date
05:47:26.340
no because it's almost baked into the preference of having men pay for first dates the woman doesn't
05:47:33.780
want to pay for the first date so there i believe when it comes to men and women there's asymmetry
05:47:39.540
in preferences boundaries expectations wants etc etc 100 there's always going to be yes i think
05:47:45.540
there's asymmetry in this there's always going to be different now i don't go the bar i don't go
05:47:48.900
the club i'm not liking girls instagram posts i'm not following women on instagram so a woman doesn't
05:47:55.700
even have to worry about that really to begin with but yeah if some friend from out of town
05:48:03.140
old friend comes and he wants to go get a drink at the bar uh but even then i might be okay a girl
05:48:10.340
my girlfriend she has a friend coming to town and she wants to go that's what i'm saying she has a
05:48:16.660
restaurant that's fine no no say she has a friend that comes in from town and her friend wants to take
05:48:22.020
her to a club or a rave or something no 100 okay right right so you'd say no and that's totally
05:48:27.540
valid and that's like an understandable i see where you're coming from but then it's like the
05:48:31.860
same thing if your friend from town is like i want to go to the club or i want to go to the bar then
05:48:36.260
like you gotta respect her one right because it's the same exact thing like when i think of like going
05:48:42.020
to a bar with a male friend we're gonna sit at the bar we're gonna have a beer uh and it's not i don't
05:48:49.540
know when women go out it's a different yeah i feel like he's explained this multiple times
05:49:03.540
i'm trying to think if there's anything else on that probably not but uh okay here let's get into
05:49:08.260
uh here we're gonna blast through some of this stuff actually really quick twitch please guys go
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stifler ask everyone to rate their looks so give me say uh wait why is it total face body it should be
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face body total whatever uh give me your face rating your body rating total rating scale of 0 to 10 you
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can't pick seven starting with you so i have to give a different rating for my face and my body
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and then a total well it could be the same it could be seven okay so it could be like this uh seven face
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seven body seven total okay i'd give myself 3.5 face four body um four total okay i think you
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underrated yourself but we'll get to that later uh we can't pick seven can't pick seven okay oh can
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you scoot your mic to the edge of the table yeah of course yeah okay um i'd say face is like eight
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out of ten and then body is also like eight out of ten total i'll just say eight out of ten okay what
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about you um i think my face is nine my body is ten and i think all around i'm a ten wait you said nine
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ten ten nine face ten body total ten okay what about you i absolutely agree with your statement
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and also myself um nine ten face and ten body i spend a lot of time in the gym and me too yeah
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and inside yeah i'm healthy the gut health is good the outer health is good okay my skin is clear
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what about you uh can you my hair is actually sorry is it just like a seating there's not space
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for you yeah we are like that's why i brought down your whole set dude are you able to scoot in
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or could you not afforded a bigger room like honestly what can you do uh grading go ahead uh face
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eight body nine so like an 8.5 overall okay what about you i wrote down on the paper and eight there's
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a lot of pretty people here and so without looking at anyone my body is like a six and um my face is
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like an eight um i don't know we'll go with eight no another ten oh wait are these
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you wrote eight here i think i did yeah so eight face or yes okay what about you why can't we do seven
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what's wrong with seven uh seven forces somebody to air closer to six or closer to eight so too many
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people just pick seven i think that's why well i'll give myself a 7.5 no no fractions so either six
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or eight how about that um gosh i'm gonna say my face is eight so i'll just do six then six face six
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body sure okay what about you i'll say face is eight body is ten so total is nine wait um
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wait sorry face eight body ten total nine you haven't even seen my body what's with that face
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you haven't even looked at my body what's with your face nothing okay uh what about you uh my face is
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probably a three and a two girl shut up stop honey it's important to practice self-love you're
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beautiful thank you so much what about you into the mic um i probably do six for both six for both okay
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i give myself 4.5 face 4.5 body 4.5 total um okay so we have wow i have a i have constructed perhaps
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one of our at least based off self-assessment one of the most beautiful panels uh ever tonight i'm
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very lucky to get all these supermodels here in the building um so you did i do think i'll give you
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guys uh a rating what why so hold on can i ask a question well that's gonna ask us if we wanted to
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or not can i ask a question i'm down everybody's down great can i ask a question though before you
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before you go and rate everyone why does it matter and why do you do this on every single one of your
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shows oh it's i mean it's just one of our segments that we've done from the very beginning but why
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what why does what matter like you're rating like rating people rating people just in general people
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why rate a person like why does their appearance matter that much you don't care about appearance i
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mean i care about my appearance to some extent no like no disfigured because they're not gonna they're
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not taking care of themselves and obviously you have to have physical attraction to someone so
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would you date a skinny guy who's like just really ugly that has nothing to do with being able to
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no like i'd have to be attracted to the person i'm dating to some extent so it doesn't matter but
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i'm not gonna rate people that i'm talking to or dating i think that's stupid would you date a guy
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who's shorter than you yes you saw that on my paper you date any height unless unless it's
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like shorter than yeah like well you're five ten so you're definitely tall if some guy was like
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four eleven like that might be a little hard and it might make me like less physically attracted to
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them okay like i grab a step stool physically you date a guy who's like five foot four yeah which is
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still very short for a man if if i liked him and if i was attracted to him yeah question how many
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boyfriends have you had uh four four boyfriends okay uh technically three but like four one of them
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of the four that are whatever how tall were they um first one was five eleven second one six foot one
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third one was like yeah six foot one and then fourth one was five ten
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uh you've completely defeated your own position there with that right acknowledgement but okay
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i understand i don't care about height don't care about height but all my boyfriend's average total
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height is above average you got a point there you do have a point there but i am a tall say but i am a
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taller women say they don't care about height women say they don't care about height but like conveniently
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all their boyfriends were but have i been in situationships with guys shorter than me 100 000
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percent well yeah i'm not denying that it's possible that you've dated men height doesn't
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matter when you're let down girls i also think it's like but i just i do find it interesting when
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women say they don't care about height but the men they were in relationships with conveniently
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well we got a little off topic here why does like appearance matter so much that we have to like
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rate well i'll tell you why i asked that because so what what you're you claim that you don't care
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about height though conveniently all the men you've dated are the majority of them
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were so 510s the male average you dated like above the male average of height okay yeah um to be
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fair you're also tall yourself so i'll give you some leeway there but so a lot of women would not
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date a guy who's short or shorter than them and that's personal preference you know whatever you're
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attracted to hierarchy based off of a measurable physical attribute so when a woman says i wouldn't
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date a guy below 510 or whatever the metric is you're rank ordering you're creating a hierarchy of
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of attractiveness based off of a measurement so we can also do assessments of attractiveness and
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create hierarchies when it comes to facial harmony but why are we doing that but why women do it well
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women do it men do it we all do it whether it's conscious or self subconscious you we obviously in
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our attraction is not really a choice yeah you see a beautiful person we're like oh i'm attracted to
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them oh i'm not you know yeah but i'm not going to be like oh like his nose makes him a two out of
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like like i'm not going to say subconsciously you probably do make that determination though
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maybe so like the maybe the actually nose plays like a major factor in like the facial harmony and
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balance so uh i say this as somebody who has a big nose like it definitely somebody's nose uh if they
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have a big nose that typically has a negative impact i have a big nose like and i'm proud of that
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turn your face that way i'm proud of that and it's fine i'm i'm yeah it's a little it's like a teeny bit
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but it's really not confident in myself and that's why you said my ratings were low but everyone has
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like flaws i know i can acknowledge the fact that i have physical flaws as does everyone else in the
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entire world and i'm i don't look like adriana lima or megan fox but i'm still confident if you got a tan
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you could probably do okay i'm still confident and happy with the way i look you know and that's
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fine considering all my flaws well so i guess the reason why i ask it why it matters is earlier on i
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think it was you who was saying that women have a i don't know exactly i framed it but you said women
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are delusional like or they think that they deserve better than so i think i think it's important because
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if you can't assess yourself you're not going to know how to navigate when it comes to dating so
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if you think for example by the way men can be fall victim to this too this isn't a uniquely woman thing
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although i think more women tend to have a miss incorrect self-assessment of where they stand
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in the dating hierarchy and the dating marketplace um that's for a couple different reasons like but
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definitely men can come to incorrect assessments i think the difference and we talked about this
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before but just to reiterate if you're an average looking guy and you step to a girl who's a super
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model or an eight or seven or whatever we're human beings though right that's the only way to quantify
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it yeah it's like also like it's like i understand where you're coming from with all this like i do i get
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it but it's like i'm not going to meet a guy that i really really like and i'm really attracted to
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and put a number on his face and body and facial symmetry and then you might not but everyone else
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does my belief is yeah can we get a like no i'd love to do you want to show me pictures like off
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camera of your exes and i can do an assessment of how attractive they are because i mean i'd be curious
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to see like if you're just exclusively dating only ugly men because you seem to make the argument you're
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seeing you're forwarding this position that you don't care about looks um it's not that i don't
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care about looks everyone cares about looks yeah so i'm just quantifying i'm just saying like i'm
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quantifying a real phenomenon step ahead to rate a human being a person put a rating on them i don't
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know but that's what you're doing ultimately like you don't like the way a number i mean right but like
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you're doing it on the subconscious level well if you have such a problem can i could i show you a
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series of 10 images of 10 different men and you would be able to be like you wouldn't put a number
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but you would be like here's the most attractive guy then this is the next if you asked me the next
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most attractive if you asked me to but if you showed me a picture of 10 different guys and my
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head's not going to be like that's the hottest one that's the next hottest one that's maybe i'll be
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like you could probably order them maybe i would okay but maybe i would look at the picture and be
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like i'm the most attracted to that one but i'm not going to order them just naturally no but you
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could order them anyone could anyone could do that and even if you were to resist it on a conscious
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level subconsciously you would still be able like you would still be feeling like the the most
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attractive man would elicit something in you that the least attractive man wouldn't which would be
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attraction but the the reason is is i think if you're like delulu and and this is something that i think
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more women tend to fall into because of what we talked about earlier where as an average looking
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guy if you shoot your shot with a beautiful woman she completely zeroes you out you get
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fucking nothing you don't get a date you don't get a convo uh you don't get sex you don't get anything
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but as a woman if you shoot your shot with a guy outside of your league or me he might even pursue
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you he might just be like well trying to get some pussy so uh and i do agree with that statement so
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what can happen is like if imagine if like you're an average dude and all these you you could smash
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supermodels but none of them wanted to be in a relationship with you that guy would be have the
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most confidence in the entire world he'd think oh i'm hot shit i just smashed this guy and this guy and
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i'm getting flown out by this chick and uh you know that victoria's secret model she flew me out
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and i i hooked up with that uh female athlete and that uh taylor swift blah blah all guys would be
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delusional too but men don't and this is a indictment of men to some degree uh men don't have that
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experience but as a woman you could be a nobody average looking chick and you can deal with some and
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it could be in different dimensions he could be really good looking he could be super famous he
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could be a professional athlete he could be like at the top top top and so can has a famous person
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ever slid into your dms yeah i think that like i i don't know i think taylor swift ain't sliding into
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some average dude's dms i can tell you that much she done fucked half of hollywood
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but she ain't sliding into an average dude's dms well yeah but i i don't know i don't like
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i mean obviously i can't change this but i don't like how much society places importance on females
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appearance like especially like women like especially it's a lot more for women than men you can agree
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right you don't think so you don't think society places more of a place on a women's looks than men
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it places a massive importance on both i think yes and i i think more on women i think we're like
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we have this standard to wear makeup and get our hair done and like we it's a standard do women wear
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makeup for men or women or for themselves it actually depends well it depends on the woman
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right it depends on the woman some women tell me that they don't wear makeup for men
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well so what is it i think most women wear makeup for themselves but also to look good in front of men
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i think it's a mixed mouth yeah and also it depends on the girl like i think some girls like
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genuinely like are lesbian and they you know obviously they're not going to wear makeup for
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men so like well i think it's more it's probably it comes down to social acceptability uh and if you
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for the makeup and all these cosmetic procedures but i mean i think that i think women are really harsh
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judges of male physical appearance in fact i think the the window of what women will deem attractive
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is way more narrow than the window of what men will find attractive this could be body type
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uh i think there's other components here too let me think uh like body types i think there's a much
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broader window of what's uh what men will deem as an attractive body whereas the attractive
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body for a man from a from a woman's perspective from the female gaze is really narrow really narrow
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so for example i would one component would be i think that
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when it comes to body fat percentage the acceptable range of body fat is much more wide in terms of
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what will be deemed attractive on a woman than what would be deemed attractive on the man well women
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are like known to have a little bit more body fat anyway no but i'm saying the range oh yeah so if
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your body fat could be anywhere from 10 to 30 i think the acceptable range like you can have women
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going into thick territory and a lot of men are really into that you can have women who are really
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thin and men will still appraise the thin female body as attractive i think the the natural female body
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without any training is going to be appraised as attractive right whereas i think like okay you
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look at the skinny girl women will have like the things that men care about when it comes to body
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attraction those things tend to come about more naturally in women so it's going to be more curves
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that stuff can come about more naturally whereas typically when it comes to female assessments of
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male body attractiveness that's typically strictly through training like abs is what you're talking
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like a skinny like a dude that works out with muscles like muscular is like the body yeah like
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a girl can had never has stepped foot in the gym never did a sport in her life as long as her body fat
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percentage is low uh there's going to be uh more men who are going to appraise her body as attractive
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whereas like some some twinkie look some girls like the stick dudes or whatever but i think
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most women generally like for them to deem a guy's body's attractive the body's going to be a bit
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athletic i'm not saying like fucking steroided actually girls i think dislike the when guys go
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too far with it that's the male gaze like the steroid or whatever i think women prefer more like
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athletic body to like somewhat built but not go going into like the super gigantic yeah i think
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just a moment takes care of his body basically yeah you eat good food yeah i mean i don't know
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some girls like a good dad also also look i think there's other things in terms of women caring more
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about looks than men i think the things that women care about men can't really control whereas the
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things that men care about ah well it's more in control for women so like the three top things i
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think women care about would be hair it would be height and it would be penis size wow men can't
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control any of that well your hair a little bit but a little bit but you got to do like quite a bit of
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medical intervention like if you're going to be some dudes be balding in high school uh so okay uh
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men can't really control their hair absent medical intervention they can't control at their height
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period uh and the surgeries are ill-advised for the pipe i mean you're basically going to cripple
06:08:22.900
yourself if you do it and then penis size can't do anything about that right apparently i mean i heard
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the stint the german olympic team like inject do you guys hear about that no to give them
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she knows what i'm talking about like i heard there's like a surgery you can get they were like
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skiers yeah do the i don't know whatever that doesn't matter more surface area um the most streamlined
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i don't know i think uh and then the things look obviously a woman can't really grow her breasts for
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example i mean she could try to get fat yeah that helps a little bit but not really ill-advised i
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don't think that's a good trade-off uh and then but like being thin that's like the primary thing
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women can definitely control that and then but i think i think those are the three things that
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guys care about the most well in terms of no no not the most i'm saying in terms of well in terms of
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oh in terms of body i thought you meant just in terms of looks in general no no i i mean you know
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i actually did a poll on this by the way some some guys are boob guys butt guys i'm a labia guy
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we know labia it goes labia butt and then boobs okay anyways what's that exactly yeah uh
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shit what is it um oh i did a poll would you rather and you girls can answer this from like
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your perspective okay would you rather a guy hmm would you rather a guy with a 10 face but a five
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body or a guy with a 10 body but a five face 10 face yeah 10 face 10 face lethal face card yeah 10
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face 10 face into the mic maha maha 10 my mic oh this girl we gotta get her get her some salmon or
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something i don't care i'm sorry you don't care no you don't care come on nothing comes to mind it's
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about personality okay no no i yeah i totally agree with you to some extent it is about yeah when
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i asked this of men though i actually got really interested i asked it on x and i think i had like
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10 000 respondents it was mixed the guys were like some picked the five face 10 body 10 face me
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personally 10 that's interesting i think that like body uh yeah let me ask the chat right now wait chat
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no i think you got it right wait 10 face five body or
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five face 10 body i'm getting confused a lot of people are okay a couple 10 bodies 10 bodies i yo
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you gotta pick 10 face oh you got some lethal face card you have to because think about it it's
06:11:09.140
personal preference yeah although you have to think what is a five body really it's average
06:11:15.380
just a regular body just like someone that like the average american body so then that's like
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that's actually tough it depends what we mean like what do you what would you consider a five body
06:11:28.660
i wouldn't consider it obese because i'm thinking of it from the i wouldn't from an aesthetic
06:11:35.540
perspective not the distribution so i don't think the five uh or do you have to wait chat do you have
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to view it from a distribution perspective because i would put a five body as just like
06:11:52.020
maybe there's a little chub but not like obese you know it's just like average
06:11:55.940
some guys that's some guys preference though i don't know but like yeah it's to each their own
06:12:01.940
there's a different like flavor for every guy out there like i don't know every literally everyone
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out there yeah that's gonna at least like the benefit for the kids
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like you want to give your kids a lethal face card like the body you can work on that you know
06:12:17.860
can't do much with the face you know all right oh what the fuck spice donated 100
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dollars yo what i'd puppy chair nine and i'm more attractive than brain who would puppy him
06:12:31.380
what does that even mean oh it changed to puppy who would him oh
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you're married right girl motherfucker she's married bro how are you talking how are you saying
06:12:50.340
this to a married woman her her husband's gonna find you okay well uh anyways i don't know where
06:12:57.700
we're going with all the looks thing the looks yeah you were gonna rate everybody great all right
06:13:02.420
don't rate me i'm rating everyone i'm opting out sorry we have to we're doing you respect my wish
06:13:08.660
uh why don't you get up if you don't want to be rated i have to rate everybody i'm sorry it's the
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new segment we have to do it wait do we because you're here just close your close your ears just
06:13:20.020
close your ears um i guess are you rating our body but i don't even know why you'd object to it
06:13:24.900
because you said i when you rated yourself three i said you underrated yourself so how would you
06:13:29.540
actually i just like well i just like giving you a higher rating here's the thing i just like don't
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i just like don't care and i don't really want okay perfect then why'd you come on the podcast if
06:13:37.940
you knew this was happening because i wanted to challenge it and i did i mean you i challenged it
06:13:44.100
and i got well to be honest but you tried you know it's the effort that counts but okay i got answers
06:13:48.500
to what i was looking for just have to like accept things we don't want to necessarily be a part of
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like wait what i'm not even saying that i don't know what you're talking about
06:13:55.860
like because last time you asked me if i went to be rated like i just don't want it i just don't
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care i don't want to hear it respectfully i don't know you know like it's just not okay well i hey you
06:14:06.580
know cover your ears i guess okay okay oh what the fuck did not mean to press that
06:14:17.620
okay uh let's see here the ratings okay actually do i you know what why don't
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ah fuck it whoa what if we rated each other oh yeah you girls will totally be honest about that
06:14:33.940
one yeah just let's let's do it it's like 11 o'clock at night we've been here for six hours oh my god
06:14:39.300
if you want to leave then no i'm good i'm just saying out then no i'm quite happy i'm fine oh you're
06:14:45.300
leaving it was nice meeting you are i didn't even well you gotta stay no you should stay i gotta finish
06:14:51.700
your notes you gotta do your notes wait is that thing was that thing still on okay i don't even
06:14:57.700
know um all right uh okay um where are we uh hmm i'll i'll rapid fire it i won't even give you the
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breakdown on the i usually give a positive and a negative i'm not even gonna do that i'll just give
06:15:14.740
the rating uh oh i should have written down all your ratings well shit can you just repeat your
06:15:18.900
rating back and then i'll give it i said a 3.5 or a 3.5 face a 4 body overall 4 i'm not gonna rate
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bodies i'm just gonna do face rating um uh just look straight at me look that way
06:15:35.700
i give you a between a i want to say 5 and 5.5 uh you i rated myself an eight eight face okay uh can
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you turn that one more more more okay thank you uh are you wearing color contacts i'm wearing brown
06:15:53.220
yeah you are wearing color contacts okay but i can't take them out because i need to no surgery
06:15:57.140
no surgery no nothing this is not even like the eyelid surgery no these are my natural eyes okay um
06:16:02.500
do they not look like it no i think i don't think you have the surgery but just asking if you have any
06:16:07.700
surgery um hmm i almost want to give some positives because you have some strong striking features but
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i've got to rapid fire this i appreciate that um i i want to say you are wearing full face of makeup
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though are you wearing no i'm only wearing makeup over here on my are you i don't wear makeup on my
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forehead i don't wear makeup over here i can smear it and my naturals my brows are natural i don't
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fill them in or anything okay uh you are wearing mascara do you have fake lashes on i have lashes
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on you have lashes on do you want me to break down my whole makeup routine i feel like you're
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asking so much about it to try to pick something to look at i think i'd give you a seven six point
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i thought we can't pick six point five to well i can pick seven six point five to seven you're
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wearing so much makeup you're the you got the the crazy lashes it's really instagram without makeup it's
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really hard for me to make assessments of like full face makeup like the it's hard uh i'm gonna
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it you have lip filler um i know you're biased it's all right uh i want to say five to five point
06:17:13.060
five maybe six uh lola what did you rate yourself or what did you rate yourself nine and ten nine and
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ten okay what did you rate yourself like a nine ten nine uh okay i think you're five point five
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well thank you so much there's many people that will do yourself there's people gooning to this
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right now for me so oh what because you're beautiful i said eight thank you eight um can you turn your face
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that way uh okay all right uh you're so funny i want to say i i have to rate within the phenotype
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so figure out what whatever the fuck that means um i i want to say and you are wearing full face of
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makeup into the mic is that correct like are you wearing like uh foundation or no i'm anything on
06:18:02.660
the face no concealer and blush concealer okay that that's on the face right yeah um i want to say between
06:18:11.220
5.5 six uh you what did you rate yourself i said eight for face i said six for body okay i'm gonna go
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ahead and say uh 4.5 uh what did you rate yourself into the mic please six six uh
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are you you're not wearing any makeup are you no no plastic surgery uh can you guys scoot into the
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table a little bit so you're closer to the mics uh actually i think for your phenotype uh pretty
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striking features i want to say uh i want to say six 6.5 for the phenotype uh what did you rate yourself
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3.5 or four what about you i said three into the mic please three three for the face yeah um
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i think that's pretty accurate i would agree what did you rate yourself i said six six uh
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he's such a troll i give myself a 4.5 that's where he gets his clickbait yeah how's that clickbait
06:19:35.860
and it's pretty obvious you have a type too like you've said what your type is on previous episodes
06:19:41.220
thank you so much girl because he said he likes asian white i know i am so that's so thank you very
06:19:46.260
very much you know what what what what what you're lying like she's beautiful and you gave her face
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a what did i say lola gold like a five what did you say four or five i think i got a four i think
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he rated me a four out of ten and you're definitely a ten you're so pretty he's actually just it's
06:20:09.540
honestly it's just for the viewers it's rage if i'm on an arrangement i'd just say you're all two
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none of you should take that seriously at all guys attraction is up like beauty is in the behind
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yeah that's true that's true like it's very subjective
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well you made a face when i said something about my body though like you don't like thick girls
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um but i mean there's a personal rating based on your preferences yeah but i'm just doing face
06:20:38.900
ratings i'm not rating body you're so funny wait don't you think you're biased because you have
06:20:44.660
a time right off you are what did i give you i think i gave you a six you didn't i said didn't
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you said 4.5 for her no i did not give her 4.5 you guys are literally fucking lying
06:20:57.300
i think you said 5.5 yeah 5.5 i'm pretty sure i said 5.5 to six yeah can somebody in the chat
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okay watch them go watch the play back your men are gonna i'm pretty either way it's his personal
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opinion it's genuine it can't be right or wrong yeah i don't yeah you definitely should have you
06:21:16.740
have enough yeah but if i wanted to rage bait i would just say you guys are ones i i mean that i'm
06:21:21.620
well that would be i'm doing a a rating based off of uh to some degree objective metrics
06:21:30.740
but what are those objective metrics yeah sure so it'd be like uh facial harmony facial symmetry
06:21:38.500
skin clarity uh facial thirds uh certain individualized positive characteristics uh this
06:21:47.140
sort of thing i mean look here here if this helps give understanding of my scale five is average
06:21:56.820
five five is not ugly five is average most people are average doesn't mean you're ugly it just means
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you're average looking a lot a lot of people will still be attracted to you even if you're average
06:22:09.300
five is average six is cute seven is pretty eight is beautiful getting it and some people even in
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the nate can be like model tier nine is like top top top elite there's no such thing as a ten
06:22:22.020
that's that's the metric so 5.5 would be cute your cute territory oh and are you like comparing her to
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other like white women is that what i think he's doing is that what it is because you're like
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phenotype and all this yeah you have to be considerate of the phenotype okay so you come comparative to
06:22:44.980
women who look like her she's uh 5.5 or whatever yeah i mean well in totality amazing interesting
06:22:53.860
you do you disagree but also yours what do you no i think she's a 10 her face in her body thank you
06:22:59.540
so much yeah and i've seen ugly models too you said models are like nine or something well yeah
06:23:05.780
that's woke bullshit where they like wanted to make obese women models not no i'm not even talking
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about obese but i'm talking like genuine like undisputably i think no but beautiful models no
06:23:16.500
but you're talking about like facial harmony not traditionally you're thinking of like high
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fashion catwalk yeah i'm thinking of uh adriana lima oh okay well i'm saying like high fashion models
06:23:27.940
aren't true yeah sometimes they have attractive kind of peculiar or unique faces yeah yeah i'm not
06:23:34.740
talking about that yeah so you don't think people that are peculiar unique could have their own kind
06:23:38.660
of beauty or like look more striking than the general public they can um but i'm saying that
06:23:44.820
there's a tendency for like high fashion catwalk modeling to not all the time but typically with a
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high fashion they tend to pick people with with a unique sometimes more unique looks that wouldn't from
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a like uh from like a purely aesthetic scale kind of deviates a little bit why i don't know why you guys
06:24:06.740
are so upset i didn't rate anybody as oh i'm not upset i don't know these girls are a bit upset to
06:24:12.260
be honest i think that yeah everyone has a different idea of what they find attractive
06:24:16.900
we get to rate you oh yeah i'm hey i'm below average looking i i'm i don't think i'm hot
06:24:22.740
shit if you want to rate me you can rate me but given the tenor of the conversation given the tenor of
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the conversation i think the rating will be retributive given that i gave you guys lower ratings
06:24:32.420
than your own self-assessment i don't think you'll you can do it i don't think you would give a
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like even if i disagreed with any of you tonight i'm not going to like intentionally give you
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a rating lower because of that i try to be as objective in my ratings as possible
06:24:50.580
how can you be objective if you have a type though like you've said in other episodes that you
06:24:54.420
are biased towards white asian and latina women so that means whoever's not in those categories
06:24:58.820
indians are technically asian yeah but is that when someone says asian girls are my type they're
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not talking about indian girls because indian girls look different from well yeah everybody
06:25:06.660
of course my perhaps my own personal biases will have some impact on the rating but uh so then it's
06:25:12.660
not objective if your bias is getting in the way well yes it's okay any sort of looks assessment is
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not going to be strictly objective and pure philosophical terms but there are objective metrics by which
06:25:25.060
you can rate a face for example somebody's interpupillary distance that is an objective
06:25:30.820
metric that you can measure in somebody's face what is that uh so interpupillary distance would
06:25:35.460
be like for example if somebody has really close set eyes or it doesn't even have to be really but
06:25:40.580
as you scale your eyes closer or farther apart that's going to have an impact on your facial harmony
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um and that's going to typically if it's not within a certain uh amount that is deemed within the
06:25:56.420
norm then that's going to typically have negative impact your looks assessment and that's just purely
06:26:02.980
objective like the distance between your pupils that's not like that can be objectively measured
06:26:09.940
so yeah or somebody for example who has like a long mid face like if you have a really long mid face
06:26:15.620
so that's like here to here basically that's going to have an impact on your facial harmony
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all right these girls really don't like this yeah i'll go yeah i don't like it because it uh i don't
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know does it hurt the fee fees no i mean you rated me what i rated myself so i don't know yeah you
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rated me higher so i didn't come here for validation same okay all right well um i don't know if there's
06:26:42.420
any uh uh uh to those of the to those women who rated themselves like a nine or a ten which i
06:26:46.900
believe was was a you it was an eight eight okay you said nine ten what did you give yourself like a
06:26:54.020
nine ten wait hold on what did you write here literally nine slash nine nine or ten okay uh anybody
06:27:01.060
else say nine or ten okay um can you tell me a woman celebrity who you think is a ten
06:27:08.740
oh currently margot robbie i'm so obsessed with you what about like uh who's the who's the actress
06:27:17.620
sydney sweeney who was the actress um i'm trying to think here
06:27:29.140
uh megan fox do you guys think how would you rate megan fox oh i'm not allowed to clap sorry
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10. megan fox i'm trying to like i don't really keep up with celebrity i don't i think i'm trying
06:27:41.300
i'm trying to remember for megan fox uh dark eyes like dark makeup like long black hair right no
06:27:46.660
green eyes um transformers like she was my gay awakening like genuinely megan fox in transformers
06:27:52.900
gay awakening uh that was everything can you scroll up you're only talking about her when she was in
06:27:58.740
her 20s she doesn't look like that okay but um we can she looked like this at one point so we can use
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this as a reference guideline um so what do you rate megan fox into the mic please what do you rate
06:28:13.780
megan fox i believe she's a 10. okay so as a benchmark for what a 10 is in her own category
06:28:21.540
in her own category i'm not sure what that means would you do you consider yourself do you consider
06:28:25.940
yourself to be as physically attractive as megan fox when she was 20. i would say yeah because i think
06:28:33.300
then what about you yeah all right but it's like two different i'm sorry two different things though
06:28:38.500
because it's like i am a 10 in like the alternative space like in my own mind but to like societal
06:28:47.060
standards of like beauty i think i've also hit most of those marks like this is like a stereotypical
06:28:52.420
like exactly what like the perfect woman deemed by probably 90 of society would view as that you know
06:28:57.780
so i think it's beauty's an eye of the beholder whatever bullshit but it just varies on who you
06:29:06.340
ask i'm sure some people find megan fox not so who who do you guys who here thinks is like a guy
06:29:11.380
who's a 10 timothy chalamet brad pitt when he was younger timothy is not a 10 he's a good looking guy
06:29:18.260
but he's not a 10 brad pitt when he's younger compared to have you seen brad pitt young brad pitt
06:29:24.820
yeah he fucking mogs the shit out of timothy chalamet personal opinion i think i'm sorry
06:29:29.700
there's no way i you like his personality probably but i'm sorry just from a purely aesthetic point
06:29:34.820
of purely aesthetic like i think timothy chalamet is more my type yeah i think that brad pitt is
06:29:39.940
handsome oh yeah but his face is kind like when people are to me when people are super symmetrical
06:29:45.140
it's boring it's like give me some i like a little yeah some quirkiness to that face like
06:29:51.060
pretty symmetrical face but um no but i like he's got like he's got like really like he's got unique
06:29:56.260
features yeah yeah a little bit i mean he has i think he has a bit of a negative cancel tilt but um
06:30:03.140
uh who's a 10 guy for you my boyfriend okay well like uh an actor that we can look up or we can we all
06:30:12.580
know okay what about you david beckham i don't know who's no why why would you say that i don't know
06:30:19.220
he's british harry styles sorry sorry okay yeah all right so can we currently had cute boys all day
06:30:28.500
long yeah so so i mean you guys if if i you guys are all kind of upset and you feel like i'm being
06:30:33.540
insensitive but if i were to sit here and say i'm just as attractive as timothy chalamet i'm just as
06:30:38.740
attractive as brad pitt i'm just as attractive as harry styles you guys would fucking clown on me
06:30:44.180
you guys would be like this guy's fucking delusional no you guys would be like this guy's
06:30:49.060
fucking delusional this guy uh clearly delusional he thinks he's way more attractive than he actually
06:30:55.060
is what a fucking clown what a joke but y'all don't want to take accountability for your own delusion
06:31:01.620
that's crazy what what's the who's delusional here the delusion the delusion is we have women
06:31:11.700
here who think that they're on par with megan fox or elite supermodels and nobody wants to say
06:31:18.100
anything but if i if i say i'm on par with elite male supermodels all of you internally are like
06:31:24.900
fucking gonna cringe and be like because that's really far off yeah they are really bad so that's
06:31:29.380
close enough but like you it's like you know what i mean like even you said yourself 4.5 below
06:31:33.860
average it's a huge gap for all of you too i don't know you guys are that i think we've both done
06:31:39.860
we're both done modeling oh my god what does modeling mean on in fucking 2026 what does that
06:31:44.820
mean that's also that's not oh my god anybody's the same as megan fox said it's two different
06:31:51.380
categories of ten two different categories of tens like you say appeal to two different types of
06:31:56.020
audiences they're closer to megan fox than you are to yeah i think the range is very different
06:32:00.500
and i'm totally willing to accept that but you're you're leagues below megan fox then you're hundreds
06:32:06.420
of leagues below brad pitt and whatever you know what i mean we can okay that's totally fine i'm i'm
06:32:11.380
not then let's all i think his argument is he's willing to own up to that but some of the girls in
06:32:15.860
this panel aren't willing the difference it's our actual opinion that's what we really think
06:32:19.540
i'm even if you think i'm a three if you think i'm a three and i think i'm a 4.5 you're talking
06:32:26.340
about like leagues of difference at least i'm close to the assessment whereas you have women who
06:32:32.820
frankly are about average looking maybe a little bit above average looking or even below average
06:32:38.580
looking who are assessing themselves at like near elite tier looks why does it matter and that's such a
06:32:44.580
gap that's such a chasm okay we can talk about gaps then we can also talk about how the photos you're
06:32:48.900
comparing of megan fox are the ones you're finding on the internet versus right now you're seeing the
06:32:52.740
girls in real life do you think megan fox looks like what she looks like on google 24 7 probably
06:32:57.300
not right so at sometimes you could probably agree like when she just gets out of bed or on a day-to-day
06:33:01.300
average without the good angles without the camera everything she was probably like a 8.9 i don't know
06:33:06.660
etc whatever woman you think is a 10 that that and there's wide agreement that that woman is a 10 we
06:33:13.620
could just use her if you don't think it's megan fox i mean i would argue i i don't know maybe yes
06:33:20.100
obviously in hollywood they're sometimes using filters the lighting is perfect the angles are
06:33:25.140
perfect uh i i understand that but yeah megan fox probably from when she was 20 you put her in this
06:33:32.660
room no offense she mogs the women in this room correct well yeah that's why she's famous yeah looks like
06:33:38.660
that brian why do you think we're here not in hollywood why does it matter so much to you
06:33:43.700
how these women rate their own looks like no i mean it seems like you guys are the upset ones you
06:33:49.860
guys are the ones giving me pushback and i'm simply responding i mean it's it doesn't really
06:33:55.300
your framing is what it upsets me well you're just you keep saying like oh like she's not a 10.
06:34:01.140
she can't say that of herself she's not in megan fox's league like it's just not accurate
06:34:05.380
yeah i just believe because the truth but why does it not allowed to have self-worth remember
06:34:09.060
it has nothing why does it matter to you like like i said before everyone's like version of
06:34:14.420
what's attractive to them is different so if like she wants to say that she's a 10 and she feels
06:34:18.660
confident in herself like period like that's amazing that's good like how do you guys get
06:34:23.620
give men that same leeway yeah if a man that's yeah you wouldn't really love average looking dudes
06:34:30.100
who think they're hot shit that goes really that that really goes over well with women
06:34:36.180
please i know about every woman but i know i for me y'all clown on dudes who think they're hot
06:34:41.940
shit but they're i don't clown on this bullshit about well if he's really confident yes queen no
06:34:48.340
y'all fucking clown on dudes who think they're hot shit but they're not i haven't and you see it you
06:34:53.060
know it wait but when you give women a pass why do you all give women a pass on that
06:34:57.380
when have i done that though right i just think that we're accurate if she thinks she's a 10 go
06:35:02.500
queen no when have i done that with you literally just i'm not suggesting you clown on men but y'all
06:35:09.780
are way more willing to give women the pass on this whereas women are really harsh judges of men's
06:35:15.700
attractiveness yeah i'm not about me in particular i'm talking in general i don't know about i don't
06:35:21.140
know about your specifics i'm saying in general women will big up other women you
06:35:27.300
look at a bro you go to a fat girl's comment section and it's all her friends saying oh my
06:35:33.780
god i wish i looked like you slay queen you're so beautiful they're gassing their friends up
06:35:39.140
gassing the shit out of their to be fair unattractive female friends okay slay queen you're
06:35:44.900
so beautiful i wish i looked like you behind the scenes she's so fucking ugly like bro i know how some
06:35:51.700
of y'all operate well that's some fake ass i've never it is fake that's how women are fake women
06:35:56.180
are socialized to be fake y'all will like be all uh sugar and spice and everything nice uh to a
06:36:03.060
girl's face and as soon as she leaves fuck that bitch yeah you guys will do that i don't have
06:36:08.180
friends like that i'm not like that yes of course you guys don't know but it seems like girls girls
06:36:13.940
always yeah girls girls all the way yeah i understand that's a stereotype a lot of women operate
06:36:18.660
that way but it's not fair to say all women do i'm not saying all women do that but it is a
06:36:23.380
phenomenon that is observed in women agreed like i'm not bro my male friends they're like brian you're
06:36:30.420
getting fat you're getting chubby and they're right it's true but have you ever heard a a fat girl be
06:36:35.620
like yeah i'm fat i should probably lose weight no that would fucking crush them i've heard women
06:36:41.060
say that no women are not like that women will be like i'm fat and i'm hot no i'm
06:36:46.820
fucking chubby i need to lose weight i acknowledge that i acknowledge that my
06:36:52.180
current weight situation is really suboptimal have you ever heard a fat girl be like yeah i'm a fat
06:36:58.580
piece of shit and my current situation is suboptimal no they cope they cope well the ones that say that
06:37:05.060
end up going to the gym and losing weight but i think i know what you're talking about like the
06:37:08.580
girls the body positivity they feel like men should be entitled to being attracted to them even if they're
06:37:13.300
like a size 20 you know look the reason it matters each their own some guys like their
06:37:19.540
women a little bit bigger look that i i really you can you can think whatever you want i i'm really
06:37:26.020
just i'm sensing the friction from you guys and i'm responding to the friction you guys have taken
06:37:30.980
great offense at really i think i rated most of you around the average mark some of you above some of you
06:37:38.180
below but that's not rage bait that's not if i wanted to rage but i just say you're all zeros
06:37:43.460
you're all fucking the ugliest women ever no you guys are between most of y'all are basically
06:37:47.940
average to what gave you the idea that we took great offense to that we did he's just saying that
06:37:53.460
you guys yes you guys did you guys like two like two women i'm basically getting gaslit now
06:37:59.540
two women the girls did get upset to like two like you got a bit upset you got a bit upset
06:38:05.060
i did not get upset you were yes you were like i thought you were so funny i thought it was nice
06:38:08.980
that you gave me a six i genuinely wasn't at all um and this will be clipped and it will show that i
06:38:13.700
was not upset at all you were literally okay i really wasn't i promise you were one of the people
06:38:18.420
that got a little upset and you were like there are people who are whatever over me you got a little
06:38:22.980
upset i didn't get upset i think i don't know i thought it was nice as you i didn't think you're
06:38:27.220
gonna give me a six i was like oh he gave me a six i was gonna go lower but i i don't know i feel
06:38:32.900
like there are like two women who got up you definitely didn't get upset you did like two
06:38:38.420
people got upset about it don't let his opinion but it's yeah i think he just rage bait i just think
06:38:43.460
he doesn't have taste like i also think i also i don't think you do i think that your opinion of
06:38:49.300
yourself just attractiveness out of anyone else's opinion your opinion of yourself and how you value
06:38:54.580
yourself that matters the most so like if she wants to call herself a 10 you don't think that
06:38:58.500
she's a 10 let her have her thing you know he's more mad that she rated herself as a 10 i'm not i
06:39:05.700
think you're very bothered by women waiting themselves as a 10 well i mean there i think
06:39:09.860
there is a a kernel of truth to the frustration that can be experienced when it comes to dating
06:39:18.660
because i do think and you brought it up i do think it's the case that women haven't have a
06:39:26.420
a uh inaccurate self-assessment of where they stand when it comes to how attractive they are
06:39:33.300
and so what you see happening because of the phenomenon we talked about before where women can
06:39:38.900
sleep outside their league women can deal with guys who are more attractive than them have more status
06:39:44.340
have more money all these things um this is going to tend to and women will gas them up oh my god
06:39:50.100
you look at the girls comments on instagram oh my god slay queen you're so beautiful blah blah
06:39:54.340
women gas each other up uh women can have a y'all y'all look at yourself in the mirror or not even
06:40:00.180
that y'all look at yourself on instagram with your filters with your makeup and you just your
06:40:04.020
assessment of your looks is filter makeup it's not like straight out of the shower completely bare
06:40:09.860
face that's fair enough but so what ends up happening is basically you have massive amounts
06:40:16.900
of women who here's what i see happening uh there's a mary can you google hypergamy chart please i wonder
06:40:24.900
if i've posted it somewhere in the discord let me actually see i think ultimately you have what you
06:40:29.620
have happening is women don't want to date their equivalent women are hypergamous women want to get
06:40:36.260
the best that they can get men too but women act as a sort of a a bit of a bottleneck into that
06:40:43.540
because we already talked about how women uh they will not just entertain a guy strictly for sex they
06:40:50.500
won't they will not do it whereas men will entertain you for sex so for a couple different reasons you're
06:40:55.540
you're gonna be assessing yourself as more attractive than you actually are like if i was fucking running
06:41:01.220
through models but none of them wanted to date me but i could them and they were you know they
06:41:06.100
were coming at me and i'd probably think i'm hot shit too i'd probably think i'm hot shit too because
06:41:11.780
i'm and then the girl who's in my league who's a five who's average looking who's going to give me
06:41:17.620
commitment i i overlook her i pass on her because i'm like well why would i deal with the average girl
06:41:25.300
who is actually willing to be in a relationship with me when i can get attention affection and sex
06:41:32.260
from women who are more uh who are more enticing than her who are more physically attractive than
06:41:38.820
her but that phenomenon doesn't exist for men but it does exist for women and that's why i think
06:41:44.820
there's a tendency for women to be a bit delusional as to where they stand in addition to that once you've
06:41:49.940
had a taste of the good life it's very hard to go and date the normal guy once you've dated a super
06:41:57.860
wealth guy or super good looking guy maybe he only gave you sex and that was it you're going to be
06:42:03.380
looking at joe schmo and maybe you're the equivalent you're an average chick but you had a taste of the
06:42:09.940
good life a taste of the good dick how are you going to go and date an average dude you're not you're
06:42:16.100
fucking cooked it's over you're gonna be resenting you're gonna resent that guy or you wait until
06:42:22.100
you're 30 fuck none of the really hot guys who i fucked from 18 to 30 wanted to wife me up so
06:42:31.060
time to settle and then you're gonna marry that guy it'll last seven years you're gonna divorce him
06:42:35.860
because you're dissatisfied because he's not as attractive the the dick's not as good whatever it is
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and uh it's just a fucking recipe for disaster do you have the hypergamy scale
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yeah this is essentially it so women are chasing after the top tier of men
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they're chasing after the top tier of men and you'll get it you'll get them for sex
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and then eventually when you're in your late 20s and 30s you're gonna settle down maybe you'll end up
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with an average guy and then you're going to be uh let's say really dissatisfied in your
06:43:14.180
relationship look i just because of their looks or it could be a whole bunch of different factors
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the things that make men attractive can be varied uh it could be personality it could be looks it
06:43:23.860
could be well for everyone it could be wealth it could be status well men don't really care about
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your career about wealth men don't care about women's career or status or well it depends on the
06:43:32.580
man women don't share their resources with men so it doesn't even matter even even if men did care
06:43:36.980
about it we wouldn't receive a benefit i remember when i was a bit younger uh i think i was in my
06:43:43.540
mid-20s and i was dating an attorney and she's making three times as much as i did high-powered
06:43:48.900
civil litigation attorney i think she's 26 or something uh she still wanted me to pay for the
06:43:53.780
date she made more three three times more than me so even if i'm gonna deal with a woman who's got
06:43:59.540
plenty of money and she can afford the date i still don't receive a benefit from her money and
06:44:04.740
her wealth men are just more generous in that sense like y'all women don't share your resources really
06:44:10.580
like you're not prepared to hold it down really like if the guy loses his job y'all you you're not
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really prepared to hold a guy down like that yay brian figured it all out everybody why are we even here
06:44:23.380
he has all the answers oh my god well i think that's generalization right hold on let me respond
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to that i mean you can be passive aggressive with your response or you can actually contend with my
06:44:33.380
argument at this moment i'm currently getting crickets so if you're gonna allow me let me speak
06:44:37.940
then okay so i can speak for myself i don't know about everybody and i do know women who take care of
06:44:42.740
their men i know men who are stay-at-home dads like i've i've seen this and i like you at you did this
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little thing with the questions like i've paid for first dates for myself and a man and i like to go
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half on things like i don't want to make whoever i'm talking to feel like everything is on their
06:45:00.900
shoulders that's me so when you're like you girls like a lot of this crap you're saying does not apply
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to me i don't know about y'all but and and it does apply to a lot of women i know a lot of women who
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have this thing about like i do have a thing about height for sure i don't like dating tall guys i want
06:45:18.020
i don't want a guy taller than six feet like it's too much it it's not functional too like
06:45:25.060
on top of a really tall guy and his head is way up there and it's like i do i've just my favorite
06:45:31.780
relationship was with a guy who was a few inches taller than me but it's not why i'm with him i'm
06:45:36.820
speaking in general you speak for very like not specific but you speak more for like conservative
06:45:41.380
men like i've asked what do you mean like i feel like there are people men who care about like
06:45:47.140
women being intelligent and like i didn't say when did i say anything about intelligence well i
06:45:51.380
feel like intelligence mostly translates to the career women have not really do you think rappers
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are intelligent but they make a ton of money i get what you're saying no i feel like it does
06:45:59.620
like rappers don't really have to use your brains or anything there's nothing intellectual that comes
06:46:03.620
with rapping right but you would agree that you can still be like a really high income earner and
06:46:07.860
like be right but i'm not gonna be like wow he's a rapper oh my god he's so smart he's so attractive
06:46:12.580
but like if you if you were a guy like okay you said it doesn't matter for a woman but like from
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my perspective if a guy was a rapper versus like a doctor and they the rapper made more i'll still be
06:46:22.260
more attracted to the doctor than like the rapper if that makes sense i don't know uh perhaps so i
06:46:26.660
think like a rapper analogy is like like maybe is there another one you could why maybe you don't have
06:46:31.620
an affinity for rap music do you prefer is there a different genre of music you prefer well like it's not
06:46:39.380
about i don't think it was about the music it was just like rapping was just like a bad career to
06:46:43.540
talk about when it comes right but i mean i i could see a woman who might otherwise be more inclined to
06:46:48.020
date a doctor but if it's i don't i don't know who's like a a musician that women are just fawning over
06:46:53.540
i don't know if women like justin bieber anymore i don't know uh
06:46:59.620
you're saying there's no musician you can think of that you would prefer to date that super successful
06:47:04.580
rich musician over a doctor in all instances you pick the doctor over the face super famous
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musician well i can't think of i actually played music for like 12 years of my entire life so i know
06:47:15.380
some but i can't like okay say like what are you what are you trying to say going back to her point
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i'm not really interested in the the my claim wasn't about intelligence my claim is that so men don't
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really care about the woman's ambition her career her money her status these though these things so
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what do you care about i'll get to that men do care about ambition i think i think it depends what
06:47:42.740
we mean by ambition but your career that's not going to make you more attractive to a man but the
06:47:50.660
things it takes for you to get to that career shows a lot about your ambition and the type of person you
06:47:55.300
are if you're like not really really okay like you don't think that's like in medical school would
06:48:00.980
be more attractive to a guy than a girl that's just does like a nail artist you don't think it
06:48:04.660
shows more about like her ambition and her work ethic and how much she went through to get to
06:48:08.580
going through medical school being in like etc etc you're just okay well she's in medical school
06:48:12.660
school okay what like i mean it doesn't tell you anything i think it can be indicative of
06:48:17.220
certain positive characteristics but i don't know if men prioritize those positive characteristics
06:48:23.060
i think there's asymmetry between what men and women find attractive you prioritize lobby like blm
06:48:29.380
uh i mean that uh sure i guess that that is one component of it but yes i would say that men
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typically prioritize uh i i'd be i'd be prepared to say that men do prioritize looks over a woman's
06:48:42.580
career that's for certain uh i i wouldn't dispute that but i i would say that when it comes to the
06:48:49.220
career success etc men don't care about it for a few reasons i think it's there's an evolutionary
06:48:56.500
basis for it i think men in a traditional role men are the providers men are protectors uh that's
06:49:03.300
been typically the dynamic between men and women throughout history there's an evolutionary basis for
06:49:08.900
it then uh but also even if men were inclined to care about it it doesn't occur to me that
06:49:15.860
men even reap a benefit when women are obscenely successful or uh whether financially or they have
06:49:25.780
status men just don't have that draw um and i i would also say like and the reason
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even if the draw was there there's not actual benefit like if you're dating a rich guy
06:49:39.940
your life is pretty good your life is pretty good as a woman uh can be anyways a lot of men will be
06:49:48.500
very can be very at least more let me frame it like this men are more generous with their money
06:49:54.500
in a romantic setting than women are generous with their money in a romantic setting you'll hear stories
06:50:00.340
where uh a girl has a hundred thousand dollars worth worth of savings and her boyfriend is paycheck to
06:50:07.540
paycheck and he's still paying for the bills he's still paying for dates do you think that that's
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equitable a woman who has a hundred thousand dollars in savings and her boyfriend is paycheck
06:50:21.620
to paycheck no i feel like that's definitely not equitable that's pretty extreme in that case i
06:50:26.340
think like yeah the expectation first for some girls yeah everybody yeah i'm all about like guys providing
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and stuff but i feel like if it's really to that extent where like you're genuinely paycheck to
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paycheck then like yeah like in a relationship the girls should step up support each other
06:50:41.780
but on the first date the guy should still pay right well why are you going on dates if you're
06:50:46.260
paycheck to paycheck and broke like that's so people of a lower socioeconomic status should just
06:50:52.020
die no not just die but it's just like well okay if it's the first day i wouldn't know that
06:50:57.220
you're living paycheck to paycheck so yeah i would still expect you to pay on the first date
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men shouldn't date but broke women can still date do i have that clear i don't think so necessarily but
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they don't men don't expect women to like financially do anything really early on so
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there's there's no block to them dating financially i'm sorry i don't understand i i think that if both
06:51:21.540
if if both parties are doing paycheck to paycheck broke like coming into that point to start a new
06:51:27.460
relationship that takes on a lot of responsibility financially for both parties paycheck to paycheck
06:51:32.100
isn't necessary well i mean you might say that's i mean it's not it's not broke but i'm just saying
06:51:36.900
like you need extra money for extracurriculars right like going like i like to go to festivals i
06:51:42.260
like to do fun things like that and the man should pay for it costs a lot of money um no
06:51:46.500
not every time okay if i if i initiate a big a bit this is how i think of it if i initiate a big
06:51:53.860
activity event trip something like that and i have the ability to pay for that i believe that
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honestly i should pay for that and i do sometimes and i think if there's like a balance there's like
06:52:05.700
a beautiful harmony that can be found where neither of you are like fully dependent upon the other but
06:52:11.460
there's like a beautiful middle ground where it's like if someone gets laid off someone gets sick
06:52:15.140
you can help them out vice versa you know sure uh i think that's fine but but overall the man should
06:52:22.340
be the provider i agree with that every date i've ever been on first day i always expect to pay for
06:52:28.580
myself and if a guy um chooses a place where i know i'm like i cannot afford this bill i will let
06:52:34.820
them know and they're like i got you and i'm like okay but i never i have never expected a man to pay
06:52:40.820
for me on a first date but do they do it anyways i pay for myself without them knowing they got mad
06:52:45.860
at me like no i should do it anyways sometimes do they insist no no no yeah sometimes right some of
06:52:53.620
them right so that's not my fault like i didn't expect you to do that look i acknowledge sometimes
06:52:58.580
the woman pays for the whole meal sometimes it goes 50 50. i would say majority so over 50 of the time
06:53:05.620
there is typically even you could i would say well i would say 99 of conservative women have the
06:53:11.860
standard maybe it's like 50 of even liberal progressive feminist equality women still want
06:53:18.660
men to pay for first dates it's the nice thing to do it's gentlemanly treatment uh blah blah blah
06:53:24.180
if he doesn't pay for the first date there's not going to be a second so ultimately if a woman makes
06:53:30.420
money i don't benefit from it why should i care about it well if you want to provide for her you
06:53:39.380
yeah you shouldn't care about it right like what do you what are you trying to say okay if the
06:53:43.140
conversation the foundation of the conversation is about my position is men don't care or they're
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it doesn't make a woman more attractive if uh for for because of her career or how much money she
06:53:56.500
makes it doesn't make a woman more attractive uh there seems to be some pushback on this and i was
06:54:01.620
saying well even if men did care about it there wouldn't perhaps even one of the reasons they
06:54:07.540
don't care is they know even if i date a woman who makes six figures she's not like what i would the
06:54:16.580
the man the male paradigm is if i made six figures i would do xyz for her i would buy her this i would pay
06:54:22.980
for dates i do even when a woman makes that much money she's not doing that shit so it's like why
06:54:28.420
should we care i would i don't know i just feel a lot of what you're saying i just don't i'm speaking
06:54:35.700
in general but you want our opinion i agree i don't give opinions on anything um you agree with him i
06:54:41.620
agree with him yeah i kind of get what he's saying he's saying at the end of the day why does it matter
06:54:45.220
how much money a woman makes because the guy's not going to really benefit from what she's what she
06:54:50.260
has i get what he's saying i'll say this a guy look a guy will pick the beautiful barista who makes
06:54:59.860
eighteen dollars an hour over the high-powered female attorney who's like cute who makes six
06:55:06.660
figures the guy's gonna but i think a lot of women uh i think a lot of women go in the other direction
06:55:14.740
they take the like above you know he's a bit above average but he's like an attorney
06:55:18.980
where he's a doctor they pick him over the guy who is a barista making eighteen dollars an hour
06:55:26.340
i agree with you yeah because the man like i think they're trying to pick a mate that they
06:55:29.700
know is going to provide for their kids they're making that financially sound decision right and
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there's an evolutionary basis for this hold on we have a chat here search don't hate me i apologize
06:55:38.740
your xd donated 100 the reason they get upset is simple their world view is material in nature
06:55:47.220
so they value themselves based on nothing other than looks they don't understand that this isn't
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about ontological value yo lizzie thank you for the 10 gifted subs chau sorry for the delay thank you
06:56:00.740
for the tts really appreciate it all right we're going to blast through our uh notes here as quick as we
06:56:05.540
can uh why don't we just do the questionnaire starting here what is the minimum yearly income
06:56:10.100
to be your future husband i don't have one okay so you'll when you're 30 and i don't know if i want
06:56:18.420
to have kids yet i could go either way but i base my i base my uh view based on human connection not
06:56:24.500
based on money all right but there you do acknowledge that say when you're in your mid he has to have drive
06:56:30.820
and he has to have a job that he likes to do okay but you do acknowledge when you're in your mid 20s to
06:56:36.820
early 30s and if you do eventually end up inclined to have children there's just going to be a financial
06:56:42.660
and economic reality that uh it does take money to i mean have kids personally i want to be a therapist
06:56:51.780
so i can like go through pregnancy and have kids and still work uh what about you um i'd say 100k 100k
06:56:59.300
okay what about you um i don't we have a whatever you just just just for the sake of time i'm just
06:57:06.740
trying to blast through this i think i wrote down like whatever you wrote down like minimum like 40
06:57:11.220
to like it doesn't matter because you said 60 100k what about you something it's not important to me
06:57:17.460
okay at all 500k 500k even the liberal progressive woman demands a man make 500 000 uh why 500k
06:57:29.300
i'll be making pretty good money too so what are you gonna do get a phd in clinical psychology
06:57:36.020
oh what phd in clinical psychology she's really smart you're gonna be a psychiatrist
06:57:42.420
psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist they make i don't think they make 500 000
06:57:47.300
well no they make but if you play your cards right you can make like 200 300k
06:57:51.300
well why okay well i mean look uh regardless of how much you make you can still desire
06:57:57.540
500 000 but i thought the 500 000 was because you anticipate making this much but it doesn't
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know but i make like not like i'll make like i need to 2x 3x your earnings okay that you do that's like
06:58:12.660
the top one percent by the way so you've closed your dating pool to 99 of men are you okay with that
06:58:17.780
and he also he also has to agree with you politically he has to be share values you have
06:58:23.860
to be attracted to him um all the other traits you care about the path that my boyfriend's going
06:58:28.500
on he'll probably make that what's that probably the path that my boyfriend's going on he'll probably
06:58:32.340
make that money what is he going into finance or something yeah med school
06:58:38.740
what kind of is he wants to be a surgeon or i feel like most doctors
06:58:42.020
uh orthopedic surgery okay i don't i'm not sure about how much orthopedic surgeons make
06:58:48.180
surgeons can do pretty good so it's i think it's like 600 what about you it's pretty high told my
06:58:53.380
man this a couple weeks ago when we were talking about it 50k okay what about you i said it doesn't
06:58:59.460
matter i didn't put a number okay i said 85 000 what about you um it doesn't matter to me as long
06:59:06.500
as you can take care of us and our family and so like 40 000 okay what about you i think i didn't
06:59:13.300
put anything either because my same as her it's whatever it takes to support our family did i put
06:59:18.820
something i think so no but i mean you guys must have some sense i mean if we're in california it's
06:59:25.220
expensive to live here i don't think we need to live in california though so if we move to a different
06:59:29.220
state though it would change and then i'd be working as well probably until i got pregnant so
06:59:35.860
i don't know maybe around 100 000 here okay i mean yeah there's ways you can come for those of
06:59:42.500
you who are like unsure you can definitely come to determinations like okay do you want to stay in
06:59:47.220
you want to live in southern california or do you want to live in idaho do you how big of a house do you
06:59:51.940
want do you want to have two cars do you want luxury cars do you want to go on vacations if we
06:59:58.020
get a sense of your lifestyle then we can probably come to your desired lifestyle we can probably come
07:00:02.340
into a determination as to what the minimum income needs to be for the household uh how tall are you
07:00:07.700
and what's the minimum height of a man you would date um i'm 5'10 and the minimum height of a man
07:00:14.100
that i would date would be probably like 5'4 okay 5'4 okay what about you i'm 5'7 and a minimum
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height date is six feet or if they're or sometimes 5'11 for like 5'11 5'11 if they're a great person
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you're 5'7 six foot minimum okay what about you i'm 5'3 and a minimum is six sorry where where were
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you looking at you're just sorry my bad oh i'm sorry i'm tired yeah yeah i get it sorry repeat that
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i apologize 5'3 5'3 and i would date minimum six feet okay 5'5 and as long as you're my height
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that's cool but if you are six foot then that's also fun because i like to be thrown around
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um i'm 5'5 and i said minimum is 5'8 i'm 5'7 as long as you can reach five minimum
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wait is so you'll date the five foot guy yes okay what about you i'm 5'4 and i really do not
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care don't care okay i'm 5'5 and i said i would date 5'8 and plus i'm 5'4 and i said 5'5 or it
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doesn't matter i'm five feet and i think i said five nine but if they checked other boxes i would
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i wouldn't care i could go lower all right uh we're gonna skip the bear one any disagreements here
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uh amelia you have a disagreement about tattoos filler and age gaps we'll just blast through those
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super quick tattoos um brian um i'm really sorry i'm gonna wrap here because i've had a great time
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and it is way past my bedtime thank you for having me um well let's at least we need to do your
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let's get into it then yeah like i said last time i was here i think that there is a stereotype that
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comes with having tattoos that's mostly negative especially for women not the same for men but for
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me specifically i think it makes me look more attractive it doesn't make everyone look more
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attractive um i think depends on the quality of what you get where you get it for example i would never
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get it on my face anywhere or anything vulgar or gross but i think it's a beautiful artistic
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expression and um it's how i wanted to look like when i was like a little kid i thinking how i wanted
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to look i'm you know reaching that point so okay but what's the disagreement that you don't like
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tattoos and you think that they're make everyone more attractive for women correct i mean my position
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my position on tattoos is this i think uh for for myself and i think generally for most men uh
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generally tattoos are going to be appraised as either neutral at best uh or negative
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right for most men there are some men who are fine who are on a fine is the right word but yeah i think
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generally and obviously it depends the design depends on the location depends how much um
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but ultimately i i don't think there's like you have a wrist tattoo for example like for most men
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that i don't think most men would be like oh my god deal breaker uh but i don't think most men are
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gonna be like i didn't want to have sex with her but she has that wrist tattoo now i want to have sex
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with her i think so in in that sense i don't think tattoos are going to be appraised typically as a
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positive it's either neutral where it's like i don't care right you have a tattoo okay cool don't
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care or negative like it's going to be neutral or negative you don't think that guys can be like oh
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like that's cool that she has a tattoo or like oh i like that about her i think there's some guys who
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have like a fetish or a kink for tattoos but not even just a fetish just like oh that's attractive
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like i like her tattoo no most men because that's been my experience personally yeah i think that
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about guys no i think that about guys like i'll see a guy with a tattoo it'll be like oh that's
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attractive to me i i don't believe there's symmetry on this specific topic so i think women when it
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comes to tattoos on men the the appraisal tends to be positive neutral or negative so because i think
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tattoos can typically can sometimes make a man look more masculine tattoos definitely don't make women
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more feminine i agree with that so um like a guy so if like a a woman is otherwise inclined towards
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like a more dominant man a guy who's like has like full sleeve or uh that can increase his assessment
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in terms of his masculinity he can like look he can even look a bit intimidating which uh from like a
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evolutionary perspective this would almost make sense here's this guy who's maybe he's a bit rough
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around the edges he's more capable of protecting me he's a bit rough uh that makes sense and it's
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more uh it's more masculine but it's never if men prioritize femininity in women tattoos are not
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feminine they're maybe they're neutral maybe they're neutral but they're either masculine or neutral
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i don't think it's masculine but i don't i think it is neutral it's definitely not making me more
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feminine i will admit that but it's also not my goal um because i think another layer that it adds
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at least for me when i see like a fully completely covered tattoo person that's a lot of pain you had
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to sit through that's a lot of like mental it's like what are you making up for in your life that
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you have to replace with like sitting for hours of pain or getting something like needled into your
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skin i know there's like a root cause to that whether it's male or female so that adds like a
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mental illness not necessarily mental illness but um it's it's a it's a certain type of person just
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like statistically that gets tattooed specifically with female with men it might not always be the
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same but it's like it's a lot of pain it's a lot of process that goes into it and it's like
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it's an extra step that you took to almost like make up for something lacking and it's like i know it's
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like for me because it's like this is like an inward expression of the things that i like and
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um i just do you agree with that though you know what i'm saying like it's it's a little bit of a
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red flag and it's even more as a red flag in women well it seems like you agree with me i do agree with
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you oh i thought we disagreed on the tattoo thing well with no with this with this specific thing but
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it's like in general for i'm saying for me specifically in my own eyes i believe it makes
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me more attractive but to the general population i know it doesn't well i think it can point to um
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um not always but i think and it again depends on how much tattoos the design of the tattoo
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the location of the tattoo i definitely think that it can be uh what's going on here exactly
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you know a girl's got tattoos is a huge red flag no matter what it is that's like i would never ever
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also shitty tattoos tattoos including drugs like like inappropriate paraphernalia even i don't like
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nude tattoos i think that that like it goes to even deeper red flag sure so i don't know if it's
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very situational like personally i spend a lot of money on my tattoos they look nice so i don't look
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cheap because i think that it borders into cheap as well sure well i mean um then you can even draw
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certain things from certain tattoos like girls who have like the finger tattoos or whatever uh or if
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they have like a uh a spiderweb tattoo on their elbow are we talking like what what what are you
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talking about like germany type spiderwebs that was like an old that was no that's like a typical
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convict people who get the people who get the spiderweb tattoo on their elbow it either means drugs or
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prison so i see if i see a girl with that tattoo i'm like she used to be she's a addict or was an
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addict exactly and i'm like no really i almost got an elbow tattoo but just because of hyperpigmentation
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so i've never heard about the spiderwebs i almost got a spiderweb i didn't know what it meant
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now you know it's now i know world war ii terms it's really not good and there's even worse things
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in the u.s so it's like i i wouldn't have known that unless i did my research um but we can't
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linger too long on the tattoo thing um i look it's not a deal breaker but you know it depends on the
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scale and all this sort of thing that was a good and i do think that uh but look if you want the you
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want the honest thing from from me i do think generally for men it's neutral or negative it's
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neutral or negative uh you might have you might be like well brian i have a tattoo and the one time
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a guy was like whoa that's a really nice type tattoo was he trying to fuck you because it would
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never like if i was dating a girl it wouldn't really go over well if i was like hey by the way
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you're less attractive because of your tattoo like that's not that's really autistic thing to say by the
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way but that's not gonna be like flattering to the girl and uh yeah so as a guy you try to there's a
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degree of flattery that's involved in courting women um so uh lip filler um yeah i mean that's
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just i i like my lip filler and i know you don't like it yeah i just aesthetically i don't really
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like it some men are fine with it i guess but uh you think my rating scale is a bit harsh but i think
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we already talked about that unless you had anything to add i mean yeah i just think generally other
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people's scales are like more lenient than yours are like to other people five is average six is
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like there's some attractive features seven is attractive eight is above attractive like you
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know like i think that's how people use it but i feel like you were skewing it a little bit
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well i mean five average six cute seven pretty eight beautiful nine uh elite tier supermodel
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but you're saying eight is beautiful eight is beautiful yeah who's like a celebrity that's like
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an eight to you like a female i mean i don't know um who's an eight
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celebrity female i'm you know what i i can't think of anybody at the moment to be honest um i would say
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maybe it's an 8.5 i'd say jessica beale is eight like i'm not attracted to her personally
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you're also a woman yeah i know but like i can still no but i can still say if i think a woman's
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attractive or not like i don't think i'm talking jessica jessica by the way she's in her 40s at this
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point i'm talking like jessica beale when she was in her early 20s she's still not what like i would
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consider like you're shaking your head you don't think jessica beale is we're not i just think
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you're maybe into white girls a little bit more um well you asked me what okay we pulled a picture
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of her i don't know what she looks like uh mary it's actually in the discord if you want to go in
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the looks folder i have two pictures of her in the looks you're gonna have to
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it's just one up it's like with gorlok that batch
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uh so i mean bare minimum eight i might even argue she's a bit higher but i'd give her an hit
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uh well here why don't we do go use the arrow key go ahead okay adriana lima arrow key
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adriana lima arrow key i forgot her name the girl from lost uh she's pretty good me i'd say i i think
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maybe she's more of an eight maybe no you think she's a she's a six probably yeah what did you rate
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yourself face well i couldn't read myself a seven so i just went okay but you okay realistically you'd
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give yourself a seven yeah okay so you mog her it depends on who you ask like some people aren't
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into white girls it's kind of my point like some people are more attracted to like melanin and things
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like that wait just to be fair so while i do have my own type which is typically white asian or latina
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uh there are definitely black women who are way more attractive than a lot of white women so it's
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not just yes i have my own personal preference but it can also be like yes that's a black woman who's
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way more attractive than like all these white women but don't you think your standards for black
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women are a little bit higher than your standards for white women uh i i don't know i don't think so
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ink oh i think my yeah you're right thank you for pointing that out my cup the ink fades thank you for
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i'll i'll just wipe it off in the bathroom in the moment uh yeah the the cup the ink kind of
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if you touch a lot i drink a lot so um was there anything more no
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uh okay you here i'm gonna go to your notes here really quick just so i can get up for a moment here
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uh did you have any other topics you wanted to you wanted bro i disagree with you on this the girls
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are gonna have very strong opinions on this you right so i disavow this i disavow this in advance
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you say bring back legalizing hitting your wife okay i was okay i was exaggerating don't walk it
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back you believe that no no no i was exaggerating but like i i don't even think it's just wife i think
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in general we could legalize slapping as a whole like regardless of gender wait just hear me out
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like i slap you in the face right now it depends on what okay bro just chill out like you need to chill
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for real no like i'm just saying like i think in other countries the way that people deal with
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conflict sometimes is physically and i feel like doesn't make it right though there's i feel like
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that's how some people learn their lesson though can't you argue like yeah it doesn't make imbecile
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societies result to violence before talking over an issue long reloids result to that before they're
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able to talk it out like adults that's just the way it is i think clearly someone who's saying
07:14:37.700
something like that is saying it so that the clip will blow up so wait no but so you guys disagree
07:14:42.420
with will smith slapping chris rock for disrespecting his wife like who the fuck is that okay it was
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like a clip that went viral at the oscars a few years ago but like some actor slapped another comedian
07:14:54.340
because he made a joke about his wife it should be legal though you just like we shouldn't legalize
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okay well i don't mean like legal i just meant like not maybe like outlaw it is what i'm trying
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to say like if it's self-defense like if you're defending yourself but i can't like yeah i just i
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don't even well i think a slap is different than a punch right like i'm just saying i think it's
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really insensitive to say something like that yeah i think you don't really believe that yourself
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because as soon as you read it you're like well i was being a little bit wait so what did you mean
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to say since you said i'm telling you what i meant to say i'm saying like some there's just some
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instances where like you hear a person talk and it's like wow they've clearly never been slapped
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before in their life like i just feel like if that's me to you right now but i'm just saying
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if some people are sometimes so disrespectful that like you there's no way to get the point across
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like maybe that's the way they i think this is rage bae i don't think you actually genuinely yeah
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i think you're trying to get clipped i think you're trying to like blow up that's what you think
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i don't have anything to prove to you but i think if they're that dumb they'll learn their own
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lessons however they learn that and if they don't who cares i don't think you need to resort
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to violence to teach someone a lesson or legalize it at that i just i'm just not going to give that
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comment another out to my attention you should post that on instagram but we should legalize slapping
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women i said slapping everyone i said slapping everyone internet the whole live stream so bring
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back legal yeah i know i just said stuff for him to like bring up in the podcast whatever i don't think
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you're really keeping in mind that like people have had maybe some like really horrible things
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happen to them some bad experiences some trauma you know and like saying something like that can make
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a lot of people feel really invalidated i think it's important did your parents hit you growing up
07:16:33.780
just serious question i actually want to know yes and you think that's okay you want to pass that down
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for the future generation i see what my dad's doing this is right in the future we should hit women i
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wouldn't hit my kids though because i was growing up too but i have a total different view compared
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to you wait you wouldn't hit your kids but you you think it's okay for a guy to hit his wife
07:16:54.260
or why do you think it's okay for anyone to put their hands on another person i just think
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that sometimes people cross a line and like they don't realize they crossed the line if you just
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tell them like there's like words don't always get through to people it's kind of my point well
07:17:08.020
then you just so you slap them across the face just that's a that's a retard response if you can't
07:17:12.420
talk it out like adults genuinely but some things don't get through to people when you talk to them
07:17:16.740
have you ever hit a boyfriend no maybe your school's just like this was specifically about your wife so
07:17:21.940
if there's something like you're at an impasse and there's something that's just that bad where you
07:17:26.020
feel like you need to lay your hands on your partner just leave like obviously you can't control
07:17:30.900
your emotions can i ask you a question um say you got in a fight with your boyfriend and you know
07:17:36.740
things were getting heated you both were raising your voice or whatever and he like he hit you
07:17:42.420
would you justify that you would think that that was okay and you wouldn't get hurt or upset by that
07:17:47.460
in any way well what you're describing sounds more like abuse like he's just getting mad at me and
07:17:51.380
taking his anger out on me but isn't that what hitting someone is at what point is yeah putting
07:17:55.220
your hands on not abuse no matter the reason okay there's never been a time in your life where someone
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said something so disrespectful that you kind of had the thought like damn this person needs to
07:18:03.060
yeah but i have self-control and i know what right from wrong is and i know it's not legal to put my
07:18:07.380
hands on someone so okay that's what i'm saying i'm talking about a hypothetical world where we live
07:18:13.060
we live in a first world country not a third world society where no one i know i have a different
07:18:17.540
perspective obviously because i have family from a different country come back to reality
07:18:22.980
what world are you living wait can you say that in mandarin i don't even know what mars is in
07:18:26.980
another planet are you from outer space because genuinely i feel like we're not in the same
07:18:33.940
world right now okay like that's how you do we're here talk to me if you prefer to talk
07:18:39.220
it to me in mandarin oh boy i i don't have much to say genuinely wait do it it it's about
07:18:45.460
a speed all right let her go off i don't know what she said okay that's all i agree
07:19:09.620
that was good oh wait there's actually a little bit of room
07:19:12.580
for you guys to scoot over that way a little bit scoot your mics like just two inches or whatever
07:19:16.740
mary do you want to just grab that chair and just just to give a bit more space a few more things i
07:19:21.700
guess a few more things we're going to just try to blast through here super quick i that's ridiculous
07:19:25.860
by the way i'm sorry you shouldn't you shouldn't put hands you're uh a woman shouldn't put hands
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on a man the man should not put hands on a woman even coming from someone who wants a submissive
07:19:34.740
girl he thinks like even that's wrong even the toxic toxic is like no you should not be
07:19:41.060
fucking a wife peter that's against the law like well like i mean for a reason you're saying though
07:19:49.380
i i can see a situation where somebody has wronged you so like where you'd you'd have rage it would
07:19:56.020
still be wrong but i could see a situation like that's what ends up when people get physical they're
07:20:00.500
so enraged that they're basically not controlling themselves uh of course that's wrong so so i can
07:20:06.980
understand like i don't know like what if you're fucking look i'll be honest oh my god i'm gonna
07:20:10.740
get clipped for this but like can we agree that there's some situation where it would be justified
07:20:15.300
to slap somebody yes that's what i'm trying to get at let's say your boyfriend like killed your dog
07:20:20.340
or something out like some crazy shit like i'd be like yeah he deserved to slap yeah but the way she
07:20:26.020
worded it was like let's legalize men hitting women you never said anything about no but i'm i'm like
07:20:30.500
i feel like whenever him and i agree like when he says it you guys are like fine with it but when i say
07:20:34.740
you guys kind of dogpile you guys are like he'd be very look and no but i'm kind of like that's the
07:20:41.140
point i was trying to get at like what he said was it though that's not what he said where people
07:20:45.700
like a slap is deserved yeah that is what i was trying to say no but i used an extreme example where
07:20:49.700
like your your significant other like cheats on you and simultaneously kills your pets like i would
07:20:56.740
i could see a slap being warranted like if somebody fucks with my cat where are we right
07:21:04.020
somebody kills my cat they're getting a they're getting a a slap but that also wasn't the point
07:21:10.340
was like her claim was let's bring back it was legal basis well no your wife at that not even just
07:21:18.420
any like no i said regardless of gender i specified that you did not specify yeah i know but i said it
07:21:25.380
here are you paying attention to the conversation that's happening if you never called that out would
07:21:29.780
you have thought about that if you never brought that to the attention of all of us would you have
07:21:32.980
kept your statement with oh let's legalize because you're only switching up now because
07:21:35.860
we're all coming at no i'm saying i exaggerate in dms like you guys never exaggerate when you
07:21:42.340
text your friends anything like all right like that if i'm like like yeah god forbid yeah okay you're
07:21:47.860
so okay but that's your but you were talking about wife and husband done this like for hours bro like
07:21:53.780
done what what have we done are you just victim here no i never said all that
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are they bullying is vicky am i bullying you no i'm sorry vicky do you want to apologize in no
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we don't we don't need this how do you say sorry in mandarin i don't know
07:22:12.820
oh but i don't mean it i'm just saying it to show you but i'm not sorry
07:22:16.180
is what's your actual chinese name it's hard to pronounce it because the tones are in english
07:22:27.700
yeah yeah yeah it's like you have to like roll your r's like j is there like a j like a z sounded
07:22:34.900
like a z but it's spelled r what does it mean it's just like a combination of both my parents name put
07:22:41.060
together like care like do you ever go by icky vicky no okay i feel like that'd be a good vicky is
07:22:48.340
actually like a name i made up when i came to the u.s like i called myself vicky because you know most
07:22:53.300
people can't pronounce it so i just came up with it and that's like a lot of other like chinese kids
07:22:58.020
like chinese international kids they tend to come up with their own names like coming into the u.s can
07:23:02.100
you scoot your mic that way just a little bit yeah to make it more like western friendly i guess
07:23:05.780
yes rock and roll uh okay um you know what i want actually never mind uh really quick your
07:23:13.220
notes you said you didn't want to spend your birthday alone in nyc you downloaded hinge the
07:23:17.220
guy got up and left before the food could even arrive and he unmatched you actually that's not
07:23:21.380
interesting sorry skip uh you say hypergamy is is okay hold on let me do some of these from the
07:23:27.060
the questionnaire uh okay vicky uh we're gonna skip almost everything on the questionnaire for the
07:23:36.900
sake of time uh let's do lola oh she left well that's unfortunate okay um she's gone so we'll just
07:23:47.140
put that there uh people of color can't be racist towards white people why is that
07:23:57.060
it's not systematic racism okay uh but you acknowledge so you no i you can be racist i
07:24:06.420
didn't read it like properly you can be racist you can be racist towards white people but it's not
07:24:10.980
systematic racism but it would be like an individualized racism so like you would acknowledge
07:24:16.500
that a black person walking up to a white person and murking them because they're white would be
07:24:22.100
a racially racist motivated or racially motivated racist killing okay it wouldn't just be prejudicial it
07:24:31.620
would actually be racist okay uh i don't know if anyone else agreed on that uh
07:24:44.980
yeah i mean it was kind of like with the conversation i was saying earlier like i just
07:24:50.740
feel like society kind of judges them harsher for things sometimes like it was just more in that vein
07:24:57.540
all right um i'm gonna almost i'm pretty much just gonna skip everything on the questionnaire
07:25:02.260
uh let me just double check and see if there's anything else that is of interest
07:25:10.900
i mean women men are more or wait men are more privileged in society than women
07:25:21.700
the only i guess the only other one i'll do is uh passion not matter body count uh who going around
07:25:27.380
the table do you guys think do you think it's insecure for men to care about a woman's body count
07:25:31.780
i think some people care about body count and some people don't personally i don't think it matters
07:25:36.900
because i think like people can change or whatever like someone could like have a phase where they
07:25:40.660
like have a lot of sex that's meaningless and then you know they i get values or they realize it's not
07:25:46.660
for them or just like stuff like that so like i don't know personally it doesn't really matter to
07:25:50.020
me a guy's body count but okay what about you vicky um same i think like the past is in the past like
07:25:57.380
i try to think more positively and like well i mean you can't change anything about it like they
07:26:02.420
had their past she pretty much summed it up so yeah uh okay actually just skipping on the head um
07:26:08.900
so what is everyone's body count starting with you five okay two two okay very very very very low
07:26:20.340
you want to give a range or a ballpark it's a number you can count on one hand
07:26:24.340
five got it what about you it's not five four okay what about you zero zero okay
07:26:33.380
12 12 okay two two okay one okay i have her answer and it's five it's not gotcha okay well if you
07:26:43.540
won't share it i just have to assume the worst i guess i'll tell you multiply by three and that's
07:26:47.620
the real number still on the bible still zero technically for you have you you could still
07:26:53.700
technically try to sell can i broker this deal right now chat we got a virgin here she wants to
07:27:00.100
make some money oh my gosh uh the price is one mil to me the price is one mil uh i get the 20 commission
07:27:08.020
uh just be honest for a mil would you do it in the past i would have said yes the temptation's still
07:27:15.540
there but i know to choose the right thing even though the temptation is still there so 10 mil i
07:27:22.500
mean no offense i don't think there's gonna be any takers but i'm still going to decline one billion
07:27:31.060
i'm still going to decline okay all right there you go a woman of good for you virtue i guess um but
07:27:37.060
you did in the past you would you do it would i lose your virginity for one billion dollars for a
07:27:43.060
billion dollars i think he's past that point well yeah but i'm saying if you were ever if i reclaimed
07:27:47.380
my virginity if you were a virgin no if you were actually a virgin like i don't know you were like
07:27:52.660
i do um if if i could just give you a billion dollars now would you say yes
07:27:58.100
yes to me i'm not a virgin no i'm not no no i'm just oh oh yeah it's it's so it's yeah of course
07:28:07.300
a billion dollars to she could be like the ugliest woman in the world and like really plump like a
07:28:17.380
plump like i don't even know where the is like i gotta move out of the way to find the
07:28:22.500
pussy i'm still doing a billion i'm still doing it'll be the it'll be the best five minutes of
07:28:29.460
her life all right tough crowd tonight um tough crowd all right uh okay i think we're done with
07:28:36.820
this thing uh let's see if there's anything else we need to uh touch on i'm gonna blast through your
07:28:44.500
guys's notes here um one moment one moment oh let's do a little fun segment to line the mood a
07:28:52.580
little bit mary let's do the we made all of you men so the question is what do you date the male
07:28:57.460
version of yourself what do you date the male version of yourself a little fun segment here just a
07:29:10.820
are you gonna be my caucasian or are you gonna be my no no the wait what what's she saying is she
07:29:21.540
saying yes all right see you're my caucasian you're my caucasian part there's a trooper over
07:29:29.540
here she's a fucking trooper hey we're in the tail end here we're we're we're getting close we're getting
07:29:33.780
close a few more little segments and uh we're getting this uh wrapped up i feel like we need more pizza
07:29:39.540
though who anybody hungry let me feed you guys let me be a gentleman let me feed you guys i
07:29:44.900
mahi are you do you eat did you have pizza you did okay you okay who wants some i might order
07:29:51.940
something i'd like some pizza okay we're gonna get some more we got some more food i'll take care of
07:29:56.820
you guys by the way did you guys try the cookies thank you did you guys try the cookies they're
07:30:00.100
great no i really want to try one you're like salted caramel you're gonna get a cookie
07:30:04.420
good wait i want to get a cookie my brian am i saying your name right by the way you're so much
07:30:08.260
nicer than last time my i'm saying what you're so much nicer today than last time really thank you
07:30:13.060
for all the food brian brian listen to me last time we were here for 10 hours you ordered food for
07:30:17.860
yourself and didn't get anything wait i did not wait go back you know what did i have what did i eat you
07:30:24.500
you were in a bad mood you were on your dearie ed you went off a camera you or you ate food and you
07:30:30.100
came back a dick period oh i thought it was like dad that was a record that was the record longest
07:30:38.020
show in 2025 by the way well you were so you were so amazing so i mean i just think i just thank you
07:30:45.860
thank you for being nice this show have i been i feel like i've been what's up well you haven't been
07:30:52.980
like you yeah you don't yeah just go to the bathroom you don't have to tell me i feel like
07:31:00.260
he's nicer on camera than he is off wait really yes probably true probably true look i'm just you
07:31:09.300
know it's very stressful at before the show it's very stressful gotta make sure everything's going
07:31:14.340
you know uh so you know okay i see i can see because in theater that's how it was too like the
07:31:20.260
director and it would be like yeah and we're understaffed at the moment we're down a producer
07:31:25.460
like a guy here or something yeah so we're we're kind of understaffed so it's kind of like a little
07:31:30.420
a little oh you still made it happen so good for you i also think you just didn't like lola because
07:31:34.740
you were really mean to her off camera oh i did snap i was a little snappy yes to her specifically
07:31:41.540
bro okay but to be fair let's have a meta conversation about that moment all right
07:31:50.100
the viewers probably know this before the show i'm running around like a chicken with my head
07:31:54.020
to cut off i'm doing the cameras making sure everything's said and checking things and oh
07:31:58.500
my god the this camera is not working obs isn't working the audio is not working we've got to restart
07:32:03.620
this uh i'm like multitasking 30 different things before the show uh lola's like um in the midst of
07:32:13.140
all of this are you gonna repost my my story she said it jokingly though she wasn't she was and right
07:32:21.700
after that she was like i mean never now i know she was joking and you were pissed i feel like there's a
07:32:27.060
time and a place it's like look do you see how it's like look you see how busy i am lady not you but
07:32:33.220
lola you see how busy i am lola lady honestly you didn't look busy you just looked really stressed
07:32:38.980
which could be for any reason you could be stressed about past stuff like your girlfriend just broke
07:32:44.580
up with you or you know yeah i'm just depressed i'm like yeah it's up it's it's really
07:32:50.340
up but yeah um no it wasn't a big deal but i you know if you're already in like kind of a stressed
07:32:57.060
position then uh i think little things can frustrate you she said something else too and
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you were like yeah i was like you don't like her yeah i'm trying to i don't remember what the other
07:33:07.780
thing was but she's like are you gonna repost my story like and i'm like chill we'll do it we're
07:33:13.300
gonna do it but yeah i don't know what the other thing was she was when she was trying to grab the
07:33:20.260
helmet when you were showing the sarah stock videos it was something before that it was something
07:33:24.820
before that that was yeah that was mary or something yeah mary was like i don't even know
07:33:29.540
okay let me order food uh while i'm just semi-distracted doing this any topics oh here's fun
07:33:39.140
what's that the male version of ourself yeah once mary's mary had to run to the bathroom so we'll wait
07:33:43.860
for that i do a segment called big brother brian and it's basically you can ask me for advice
07:33:49.220
about it maybe you have a specific dating scenario or you have always wanted to ask a guy a question
07:33:55.540
but maybe you were unsure you you were uncertain if he would even give you an honest answer i will
07:34:01.380
give you the unfiltered honest male perspective male truth uh i'm not a guy who's like trying to
07:34:07.380
date you i'm not a guy who's trying to sleep with you where the guy's gonna fucking lie or whatever
07:34:11.620
or sugarcoat things i will give you the honest truth about anything you want to ask
07:34:15.700
dating relationship sex whatever it is i will answer it any takers yeah i have a question
07:34:21.940
actually because i hear this a lot people try and come at me and maybe they're trolling but
07:34:25.460
a lot of people love to tell me that indian women are the least desired in the dating pool do you think
07:34:29.540
that's true uh she well you're taking me up on my offer there about being honest um
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um so i think they've actually i'll defer to this i do believe they've done studies on the for both men
07:34:46.500
and women in terms of racial preferences and the varying races that they in the united states anyways
07:34:55.380
in terms of who is assessed as most attractive or most desired and i think in the united states you
07:35:01.620
have something like it's actually i think asian women at the top white women latina women and then
07:35:08.580
it's um i mean there's obviously women who are uh like middle eastern or there's other breakdowns but
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uh probably uh yeah it's probably according to the studies not me do you have a study you could pull up on
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this or um probably but i don't think it's worth our time but look it is what it is it is what it is
07:35:40.180
is it true if you give men leeway like with like boundaries physical intimacy whatever it may be
07:35:46.100
if you don't set the boundaries they'll take advantage of what you give them is that true
07:35:53.860
because i've been told that by women like they're like you have to communicate with men you have to be
07:35:57.620
firm with what you do or don't want or they will take uh
07:36:10.260
do you understand the question or do i need an example yeah give me an example so a good example
07:36:15.780
is physical intimacy so if i don't set a boundary for what i'm willing to give what i'm willing to do
07:36:22.420
or what i'm willing to receive um it'll just be done
07:36:28.420
so like if i'm not comfortable giving like a blow job i'll i'll do them if i'm willing to be in it
07:36:32.820
you know if i'm in a committed relationship i'll do them i know it sounds contradictory i don't
07:36:36.660
consider oral sex like sex sex because it's oral okay and so i'm willing to do it um you said you
07:36:43.860
don't because my body count i count oral sex if you can catch a disease from it it counts as sick so
07:36:50.180
i feel like i mean yeah i mean it's it's not sex it's different but it's probably you can catch something
07:37:00.100
from it it's yeah so in my body it's not exactly waiting until marriage those count even if i only
07:37:05.300
got head like it counts to me you think it doesn't count no i was it was never communicated to me that
07:37:12.340
it counts as sex and i follow like oral sex doesn't count as sex it was for guys it does i feel like like
07:37:18.740
whenever i ask guys their body count they always exaggerate it and say that head counts but women
07:37:23.700
don't wait so what's related to the boundary though what yeah so so if i like don't communicate with
07:37:28.180
someone that i if i don't like like don't do this they'll just do it anyway like hey don't like
07:37:36.420
like with boobs if i want them to just only touch over the clothes you know um and and if i don't
07:37:41.700
say that then they'll just go for going under the clothes and so i have to tell them right like
07:37:48.100
they'll do they'll go under the clothes if i don't tell them to not do that so okay you're
07:37:53.300
like making out with a guy sure yeah and if you don't explicitly say don't do that they'll they'll
07:38:03.780
do it uh okay and take that take is is that is that all guys is that a guy thing well this is kind of
07:38:14.500
a murky territory here um so if the burden typically when it comes to moving things forward
07:38:24.980
physically is on men uh and so and i think a lot of escalation when it comes uh sexually is not
07:38:35.860
like if you want it to be like insanely clinical i think most women will not like this so technically
07:38:43.860
the guy could be like is it okay if i touch your upper chest area but not your breast is it okay
07:38:49.780
if i touch your breast over your shirt is it okay if i go under the shirt
07:38:59.220
i mean i i think most when people hook up it tends to be a bit more organic and not like
07:39:05.860
like at every single instance the guy is going to ask try to get a verbal yes now i think you can
07:39:15.140
obviously tell a lot from uh body language but i mean if we're all being realistic here
07:39:25.300
are you or is the guy asking for permission at every single plausible step of
07:39:35.460
and i'm sure we would agree that that's not like an essay that has occurred that's not
07:39:41.300
now if you say no and he persists or you persist i guess then this would be getting into a territory of
07:39:49.780
some crime but my suggestion to you if you have these boundaries as to how far you want to go i
07:39:56.980
think those ought to be communicated and i think and sometimes it's fair for the guy to actually prompt
07:40:02.740
that too um i think typically though if we're being realistic most people when it comes to physical
07:40:10.660
intimacy it's a bit more organic and there's less verbal communication and it's more making out
07:40:17.780
making out making out next step next step the next step if you're on i think if you're uncomfortable
07:40:22.500
you should voice it and that should be a hundred percent respected but um yeah i would strongly advise
07:40:30.740
you if you're uncomfortable with a guy touching here or lower you i i think you should say that sure
07:40:39.860
and he should 100 respect it and it should stop there yes on a separate note not just with physical
07:40:45.540
intimacy that was just the easiest example what about like spending time with one another
07:40:50.340
or like sleeping schedules like oh here's a good oh two good things that could be interesting i think
07:40:56.100
uh the woman should sleep in a different bedroom he says the same thing he told me the same thing is
07:41:01.220
that your question though i don't know no that's not my question but wait you think that you think that
07:41:05.780
a woman should sleep or the well i mean not uniquely to the woman like just i think separate bedrooms can
07:41:13.220
why uh sleep quality supersedes two percent extra intimacy so like if it's difficult for me to fall
07:41:22.820
asleep with my like somebody sleeping right next to me yeah i mean it depends on the girl like some girls
07:41:27.940
are fucking deadly silent they don't even move they don't snore they don't make noise they don't kick
07:41:35.780
that's a bit more tenable but other even if it's like got to get up and use the bathroom i'd much
07:41:41.460
prefer we spent we spend you know we have a great day together spend the night together whatever but
07:41:46.900
when we're like ready to sleep let me set you up in the guest room this is like for you personally
07:41:51.700
though you don't think that about everyone should do oh no i don't think it's probably better um if
07:41:56.260
you're both able to get quality sleep sleeping in the same bed it's probably just better if it was
07:42:01.780
affordable i live in separate homes separate homes yeah well i don't know about that but that is an
07:42:07.700
option if if uh i'm not totally opposed to that but um i think separate beds at least for me that's
07:42:15.940
my preference not to say i can't do it especially if the girls like some some of y'all are whisper
07:42:21.540
silent well wait that doesn't make sense you're just silent but others you're fucking flailing and
07:42:26.740
shit some girl fucking i think broke my nose oh yeah this isn't the reason why i still care
07:42:32.980
about sleep quality but some girl was like sleeping in my bed and like flailed and like hit my nose
07:42:39.300
big target and uh to begin with but uh yeah i think she broke my nose a second i've broken my nose before
07:42:46.660
so her nose was just like already broken it was yeah well i broke my i did wrestling in high school and i
07:42:52.260
broke my nose in high school wrestling and then she broke it again it was oh yeah so oral sex is sex
07:43:00.500
like the among you does anybody else want to participate in the big brother brian um thing
07:43:07.380
you have a question or no okay i'll move on to the next segment then we got a fun segment mary
07:43:11.700
merrington please pull up the uh gender swaps por favor yes ma'am
07:43:19.940
oh wow that doesn't even look like it's like an ai picture where'd you get this picture yeah i would
07:43:25.860
i would date him who is oh my i need to have a word i need to have a word with whoever actually
07:43:31.860
yeah where did you guys get that picture bro is it ai like yeah it is it's a it's a from the video
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yeah okay next no no no i would not date him okay i think that i'm just gonna be honest you know
07:43:50.660
see because that's a good photo of me but not see last week i told the person who does this
07:43:56.740
that they were being too generous oh and now i think they've over corrected into the other direction
07:44:02.980
that still looks i don't know it just no you mock him you mock him i don't think that's there's no
07:44:08.500
way that's the guy version of i don't think that yeah like ai messed up on that no yeah why did mine
07:44:13.060
have a i don't think that's fair i don't think that's fair i'm with hair would be so much more
07:44:18.100
attractive can we be can we add hair to mine like yeah uh next
07:44:25.540
wow good job mary you're fired just kidding you're fired you're getting 10 lashes
07:44:32.980
uh just figure out if you can just try to figure out what what happened did you did you figure it
07:44:39.460
out oh this is you okay oh period low key yeah he was cute he was cute he looks like my brother
07:44:56.340
next wait you look like fucking cash patel yeah you're like the fucking fbi director
07:45:06.340
he's cute no a little bit actually well that guy he's he's he's cute he's a little better he he's a
07:45:13.540
little a little better than pass i guess okay would you date him you only date white guys
07:45:20.260
no okay wait into the mic just say give your answer wait there's space now scoot scoot in
07:45:27.380
scoot in girl come on scoot in get this girl into the table all right what about uh next
07:45:34.980
who's doing these brother they're not being very i don't know i do not look like that first of all
07:45:40.420
you know what i see the i see the vision it's not bad it's not bad i see the vision i'd give him a
07:45:54.420
no absolutely not wait he's actually kind of cute no like throat it's like usher he looks too young too
07:46:01.940
but it's because you look so youthful girl that doesn't look like me either
07:46:05.140
they got the eyebrows uh so would you date him no if he was had a great personality
07:46:18.900
oh no i don't like indian guys anyway oh you have a bias too yeah i mean but but for them it's
07:46:27.300
well i like asian white and any type of brown that isn't indian but like indian it has more
07:46:31.700
to do with their personality if anything i just i don't know it feels like i'm hooking up with my
07:46:35.700
cousin or something like they just all look basic to me like i don't understand this like and i've
07:46:41.220
heard this from people uh like like a lot of asian women i've heard it from from uh like black women
07:46:47.620
or like not so much latina women but like what's this like brother thing like they share the same
07:46:55.540
race so it reminds me of my brother i don't know like i just feel like if i run into one they just
07:47:00.420
look too basic like too similar to me you know like you know what's interesting though like i i've
07:47:05.140
have heard a lot of and to be clear i'm not saying all asian women or whatever i've heard a lot of
07:47:11.060
asian women say i wouldn't date an asian guy because it just reminds me of my brother
07:47:16.420
yeah kind of weird right yeah i think i kind of said the opposite like i've only yeah you i like asian
07:47:21.220
people and i've only dated asian people yeah so i'm not saying it's all asian women but i have heard it
07:47:26.260
a decent amount from asian women and i was like and i thought about that and i was thinking that's
07:47:31.780
kind of dysfunctional if you think about it in the sense that well in modern day not really because
07:47:37.300
you have access to people outside of your race in 2026 but historically if you go back uh like
07:47:46.500
a hundred plus years if you let's say 200 years just to make it easy if you lived in china
07:47:55.060
you did not see a white person or a black person probably your entire life if you lived in europe
07:48:06.980
you didn't see you didn't see a black person you didn't see
07:48:10.020
asian person if you lived in africa you did not see white people or wait hold on south africa let me
07:48:17.300
think about the timeline let me think about the timeline here a little bit
07:48:20.180
uh let me revise that a little bit you know what maybe we need to go back a little anyways whatever
07:48:27.060
fuck it i just think it's like you would basically if you were an asian woman living in the 1500s
07:48:33.700
in china or japan korea mongolia laos whatever cambodia vietnam philippines whatever it is
07:48:39.380
and you were not attracted to asian men you're cooked you're fucked like those are the only men you have
07:48:45.860
access to yeah you don't got instagram you don't got airplanes that's why they did arrange marriages
07:48:51.860
you're like basically you you would be it would be an ineffective uh i mean okay never mind whatever
07:48:58.820
i don't know just a thought maybe it's ridiculous um uh let's see oh wait next yeah thank you thank you
07:49:05.220
thank you thank you wait what do you have it oh he's not bad would you date
07:49:20.260
what's that audio is there something what is that okay just
07:49:25.860
who's doing these you got you over corrected whoever did them over correct he looks
07:49:30.020
why did they make us age what i know for over correction all right next
07:49:39.700
oh my god well yeah she's 4.5 into a six she's pretty actually yeah i can't lie thank you thank you
07:49:46.020
icky vicky she can get it she can get it i would date her she can definitely get it um oh what about
07:49:52.420
this okay we have this big debate i think last show the toilet seat dilemma should a guy should your
07:49:58.020
boyfriend's put down the toilet seat for you yes i think anyone who does not put the lid down
07:50:05.060
completely before they flush the toilet is just out of hand so i was everybody should i was thinking
07:50:09.860
about that so i mean my position was like number two absolutely you gotta put the lid down but let's
07:50:14.580
say hypothetically there wasn't a a like germ component to like the flush i still yeah okay let's
07:50:22.900
it because people say oh there's like a plume of if you leave the the lid open whether it's number
07:50:29.380
one number two plume of grossness let's just put that aside just from a strictly
07:50:37.620
dating dynamic should the man put the toilet seat down
07:50:41.620
but the toilet like when they pee yes they should pee all over the lid no like uh
07:50:46.820
for your benefit should the guy put the toilet seat up did i say down sorry i might have yeah
07:50:53.300
so sorry should the guy put the no no yes the man puts the toilet seat down for the woman isn't that
07:50:58.660
it so she could sit on the i mean i think it's a nice thing to do yeah it's quite so should what do
07:51:03.700
you think well i think like dating wise yes but not even just dating wise i feel like
07:51:09.620
most toilets you come in just like in general like most toilets you go into the bathroom and the toilet seat
07:51:14.100
not like the germ one but the actual toilet seat is down i think it's just common sense to just leave
07:51:19.060
things how you found them like it's pretty rare to walk into a bathroom and the toilet seat be up
07:51:22.900
so i think like you just should do it just out of like human decency not even for like a relationship
07:51:28.340
wise and it's not hard just like put the thing down yeah um okay what do you think yeah i think
07:51:36.900
yeah it's just courteous you know if i was a guy i would put it down when i'm done
07:51:40.100
okay what do you think yeah you should put it down if you're putting it up you should put it back
07:51:46.580
down put it down it looks neat and tidy okay i feel like i'm kind of torn on this one i don't know
07:51:58.180
like if you go to the bathroom you're a guy you left it up and you just didn't put it back down
07:52:01.940
it's not a big deal i feel like regardless of germs the the lid should always be closed because stuff
07:52:07.460
could always fall on the toilet like you could knock over stuff from your counter so i i i always
07:52:12.100
out of habit just keep the whole lid closed for that reason i think he means like right after they
07:52:16.180
pee yeah are you talking about like the seat where we sit how guys lift up yeah no i know i know what
07:52:20.580
he's saying but i'm just saying i'm just saying the lid should also be down if a guy pees the lid or
07:52:25.140
the seat so if a guy pees he he puts the seat up this is the cover right and the seat that we sit on
07:52:31.060
is both up well yeah obviously right so what are you talking about both are going down or just the
07:52:36.420
seat i know what he's asking but i'm just adding to the conversation well no i'm just trying to
07:52:42.740
clarify the base level would be there's no reason to be shady here it's not girl i was confused i'm
07:52:48.180
asking a question i changed my answer i think you're right because i dropped things in the toilet
07:52:52.980
okay uh what do you think i've never had a problem with it like i've never what's your husband he
07:53:03.380
puts it down he after he uses it so what do you think bro okay so there is a compelling argument that
07:53:14.740
for reducing the plume of disgustingness even then though i i really don't think that it's going to
07:53:22.740
have like a huge impact on health one way or the other but uh but even putting that aside
07:53:30.420
my position would simply be if you go into the bathroom you put the seat to whatever position you
07:53:37.780
need it to be in for your usage and then you leave it as is so if i go take a piss and i i put
07:53:50.020
the seat up i'm not putting it back down for the sake of my girlfriend at the house a little selfish
07:53:57.060
no you should just get a urinal at that point because like at that like men sometimes i just
07:54:02.740
pee outside to be honest that works too save water my backyard like but why even flush at that point
07:54:08.660
if you're just gonna leave you can't flush outside no i mean like what i'm saying is why why even
07:54:14.020
flush in your scenario like why not just leave it on the toilet toilet what why even flush yeah
07:54:22.900
because you're saying like i'm gonna leave it as is no you flush you flush but you leave the toilet
07:54:28.100
seat up yeah but i'm asking why why not also not flush if you're talking about leaving it as is
07:54:34.500
for the next person if it's flushed wait what that doesn't make i don't know where you're going
07:54:39.940
with that it makes no she's saying you do your business you leave why even bother flushing it if
07:54:43.540
you're that's ridiculous that's ridiculous that's totally different than what we're talking about
07:54:48.100
it's not at all related but um no i i would in all instances flush um but you're saying it's selfish
07:54:57.780
so are you saying women are selfish no because i don't so when a woman uses the bathroom does she put
07:55:04.740
the seat up for the man after she uses no just at least for me i'm thinking about like who's putting
07:55:10.340
the seat down after like i don't that's like a whole extra step your girl gotta take to get a piece
07:55:14.180
of paper to grab onto it and put it down okay if i was a guy i just wouldn't want to inconvenience her
07:55:18.660
like that for that bacteria aspect so that makes sense doesn't it because if both the lid and the seat
07:55:28.500
is up now i gotta touch that piece why should the man why should the man do this i don't really care
07:55:36.260
i yeah it's kind of rude so it's rude that for women i don't understand for women to what not put
07:55:45.140
it up but but why okay it's the same thing as like if you eat at someone's house but you don't know if
07:55:50.980
you take their dish and you get like their dish dirty like you just put it in the sink or do you
07:55:55.220
actually clean it it's not really what so right do you think that's like an equal so your argument
07:56:00.100
would be if a girl's over at my house because it's my house when she uses the bathroom she should put
07:56:04.580
the seat back up after she uses it for my sake yeah sure i don't know well i don't think it really
07:56:11.780
matters i think either way that's what i mean that's like my that's my point but i don't have an
07:56:15.460
expectation it doesn't really matter to me that much i don't have an expectation that the girl uh
07:56:19.860
put if she's at my house using my bathroom that she needs to put it to where i want it like she
07:56:27.620
can leave she leaves the seat down i go in there i put it to wherever i need it to be who i thought
07:56:33.700
you wanted some pizza what's up oh you're just you're just passing it down you're just passing
07:56:37.940
down guys i gotta get uh i gotta get up momentarily you get some here you have some pizza i gotta get up
07:56:43.060
momentarily you guys talk amongst yourselves about toilets and bathrooms and seats and uh sleeping in
07:56:49.300
separate bedrooms or whatever you guys want to talk about for like two minutes i need to get
07:56:52.900
up momentarily take it away women be entertaining well i feel like you could sleep in different
07:56:58.500
beds without sleeping in different rooms good girl i think that's that's true
07:57:06.900
i feel like i'm correct about it looking neat and tidy and i stand on that
07:57:10.660
it's polite but i don't think it really like i don't know it's definitely a polite thing to do
07:57:19.540
it's like a night yeah i appreciate like i'm not going to be mad if it doesn't happen it's not a deal
07:57:24.340
breaker or i'm not going to even be annoyed like i'm probably not even going to notice i just think
07:57:27.860
the lid should always be closed because stuff could always fall in the toilet off the counter
07:57:31.860
good point but like germs like it's a thing i'm kind of i'm a bit of a germaphobe me too
07:57:38.420
when it comes to i don't know like mixing things like your toothbrushes i don't even keep my toothbrush
07:57:44.980
out for that reason i keep it like away from the out of the bathroom actually but um yeah i just feel
07:57:52.260
like everyone should completely close the toilet i don't think so thank you and i do appreciate when i
07:57:59.860
there have been times i went to the bathroom and this the everything was up and i was like
07:58:04.580
i just want to sit down but it's not hard to put down a toilet seat it's really easy it's not really not
07:58:15.220
i don't know i feel like women have to pee more than men too yeah so we have smaller bladders
07:58:20.020
we have smaller bladders well not even oh do we have you guys don't drink water what are you talking
07:58:25.300
about that's almost all i drink we've been drinking water like
07:58:29.220
all this time i don't drink i drink more water than most people but
07:58:38.180
i fart and i sweat and i poop and i don't wear makeup oh like i don't know i just
07:58:48.340
give us a topic give us a random topic give us something beefy
07:59:04.260
um using your hands what is the ideal size oh my goodness i actually just had this conversation
07:59:13.780
with someone they're like what do you prefer i'm like like six seven inches yeah 6.5 with some
07:59:21.460
so i don't use my hand because i don't know but like six inches is beautiful
07:59:29.380
i think six is like this big girl had four with five no on the floor would be like this
07:59:37.060
that was longer than your five i can't tell my name are we talking about hand jobs i'm confused
07:59:42.980
he talked about hands and no he's talking about size but didn't he say hands he said show with your
07:59:47.460
hands oh show with your hands i'm sorry like six inches right it's about six inches from here
07:59:52.900
they say to take your knuckle and go like one two i heard the thumb thing
07:59:56.260
is there room for you to scoot over just a little bit it depends on how long your fingers are too
08:00:04.820
all right wrapping this up here in just a few more things um
08:00:11.460
sorry boys had to have a little pizza back there okay uh maddie um which one
08:00:18.420
you said women shouldn't be drafted men shouldn't have a higher body count than women we talked about
08:00:22.180
the draft a little bit won't go back there um oh amelia you're pro ice yes how do the women at the
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table feel about what why are you shaking your head mahi i want to hear why first if you could
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elaborate well i think what they're doing right now like they're going way too overboard like i
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understand people should come here the legal way my parents came here the legal way but right now what
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they're doing they're deporting people who came here legally there's been a lot of mix up they're
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taking people who are also like american citizens they killed two people renee good and alex pretty like
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sure and also alex pretty honestly like a lot of conservatives and a lot of trump supporters are also
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not even defending him anymore because a lot of it is he had a firearm and they shot him because they
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said he had a firearm but in the video you can see that they took his firearm away and then i think jd
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vance said that anyone who's going to protest shouldn't carry a firearm but then you got um
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republicans and conservatives their whole thing is like everyone should have the bear like the right
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to bear arms and apparently he did have a legal license to carry a gun but there are there are
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rules like i don't have anything against him having a firearm but i i know that there are rules for
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so there's one we can't bring it to protest well i didn't finish so when you do have a ccw there are
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things like you're not supposed to approach people like law enforcement you don't you don't get into an
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entanglement with law enforcement whatever it was an approach law enforcement i don't think he helped
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a woman in the video i don't think did you see that video that was released of there was a conflict
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between he was on caught on camera i think a few days prior where there was i believe it was an ice
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vehicle or some law enforcement vehicle where he literally with his foot kicked and smashed the
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uh the the one of the lights in the back of the car and then he spit on them i didn't see that
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exactly i heard about it if you don't want to be caught in conflict you shouldn't be there in
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the first place but i also don't agree with what ice is doing like essaying women in the shelters i've
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heard of that i you know at the baseline i believe what ice's stance is good but there's no individuals
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in the system they're taking people away who are illegal like citizens like people are showing up to
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their court cases and their legal appointments yeah but that's the thing like i do agree with ice but
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they're going way too far right now so yeah i mean i think that when you're undergoing a massive
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national uh campaign of this kind that you know humans whether they're police officers law enforcement
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they are definitely going to make mistakes i'm not going to even really even debate with you that
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uh there there's a complete like clearly in sort of any endeavor people are going to make mistakes
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uh you can argue that you know they weren't following certain protocol or procedure in their
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escalation of force in some of these instances i would actually tend to lean towards um i think if
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there is any criminal prosecution brought against the uh either individuals or people involved in these
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two killings i i think that based off of what i've seen they have a pretty compelling self-defense
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thing um i think it's a really she was trying to say how if you have a license to carry a firearm you
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need to do so responsibly like it's a really bad idea to like for i in fact i think it might even be
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i don't know if it's illegal but for example i don't think you can go to a bar and get drunk while
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concealed carrying i don't think you're supposed to be drinking at all i think it's a so there is a video
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of alex peretti or whatever who like i just said he had an altercation with ice a few days prior to the
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uh unfortunate killing of him uh and he uh he was being really belligerent so we do have video of the
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incident and we don't know what it was what totally led up to it um i think it's a really
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bad idea to get into a scuffle with while there's a federal uh uh immigration uh investigation going on
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to try to while concealed carrying and by the way he was it what was it a sig what was the gun he had
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like a sig sour or something or what's the term what's the gun name it was like a gun that that
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is known for misfiring or whatever um these these situations are happening in split seconds
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the gun did misfire i think you you're unfortunate look it's unfortunate that somebody died um i don't
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think any conservatives are like yes like these people died i don't think they're anybody's happy about
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what happened to renee good or but like in these situations these people did have some culpability
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in what happened albeit unfortunate um i'm not saying that the ice agents all acted perfectly
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there's steps that they could have potentially taken especially with renee good that maybe it could have
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played out in different ways but i think if you're impeding a nice investigation and a law enforcement
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officer has given you a lawful order to exit your car you're under legal obligation you're you're
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certainly not legally allowed to flee do you agree with that well renee good i can see like the argument
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for it but i feel like alex free that one was completely unjustified well could you understand so
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i think what happened was a mistake i think what happened was a really high tension environment really
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high tense split second situation going on a gun does go off his gun does go off uh the the police end
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up shooting him but his gun was taken away but but were the other agents privy i i don't know all the
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details so i'm not fully aware of all the details were all the police officers involved aware and privy
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that he had been disarmed i don't know is it possible sometimes people carry more than one pistol
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uh some people are going to be in a high tent situation you hear a firearm go off that doesn't
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originate from an officer they're going to make some assumptions ultimately it's very unfortunate
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that what happened but i i think they're going to have from a legal perspective they're probably
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going to have a self-defense uh argument they just have to prove because if you look at immigration
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um customs enforcement their procedures or protocol as it comes to lethal force is you just need to be
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able to prove that a reasonable person would suspect that someone else's life was in grave danger
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um and i think you could do that i agree with you like the whole thing is is just
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sad and i think avoidable and de-escalation definitely could have been used and i don't
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i think most people would agree with that um but i think they might have some defense there as well
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um really quick uh i think last time you were on the show my i asked you about charlie kirk do you
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think that the the assassination of charlie kirk is more objectionable than the these two killings
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in minnesota no they're all as equally sad uh all is i mean like equally sad but like do you think
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that the because the outrage over the the two killings in minnesota seemed to be uh a little
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i mean the writing that's going like for example when charlie kirk was killed uh conservatives didn't riot
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yeah but then like there wasn't mass riots they weren't burning down buildings and
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well because they because the renee good and alex pd they got killed by like
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like that's fair like the state yeah they got killed by an agent of the state that's
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i mean even charlie kirk though like yeah i feel like he was wrongfully but he got murdered by an
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ideology he was wrong he was wrongfully killed and that was really completely unjustified
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what happened to charlie kirk whereas can you see can you be charitable in the sense that
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when you're interfering with law enforcement and you put yourself intentionally in the situation
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that you put your either mistakes can happen or you're you are putting yourself at risk to some
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degree i mean i know renee good like she might at like there's different perspectives like there's
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different body cam footage some people say that she was trying to like hit him or the police
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office thought he was trying to hit her truthfully i don't even think i don't think she was trying
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to hit him but regardless of her intention she was ordered out of the car by law enforcement that's
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a lawful legal order you must comply if you start to drive away you're now in your felony fleeing
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uh a justified detainment um and you start directing and you you have at some point there
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was a police officer directly in front of her car there's dispute as to as she was accelerating was
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he off to the side whatever if you start going in the direction of a police officer i mean so this is
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horrible obviously but it's like did she voluntarily enter an active investigation area
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like yes she's interfering right so it's like is that not voluntarily setting yourself up for
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potential danger no matter what the circumstances are you don't know how high alert the agents are
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you don't know what they're in the middle of it's like yes rest in peace but it's like there were
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steps that you could have taken wasn't she in her driveway harmed i heard renee good was in her
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driveway street i don't think she was in like well in the video the person says you just shot my
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neighbor she was just she was intentionally blocking the road to impede uh ice agents
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well okay but let's put these aside so i i'm going to agree with you that uh there are definitely
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instances of ice agents not acting correctly or appropriately and i i'd like to see the stories
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but i'm gonna go ahead and grant that yeah they're probably like deporting or detaining people who are
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legal citizens of the united states i agree with you that that's wrong nobody who if you're a citizen
08:10:34.660
obviously you shouldn't be deported that's wrong um if there's some sort of uh restitution that can
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be paid to them for their but also that's like why people are like protesting because they're not doing
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like yeah i i think the protest has gone a lot more they started protesting even before any of the
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shit went down in minnesota but they were still because they're still like deportant they were
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there were been like documentaries and people started speaking out that they were like detained
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when they were illegal citizens that they had to spend time in these detention centers so weird thing
08:11:07.060
however do you think that people the the extent of people's outrage as it come relates to ice is
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strictly about only the illegal or alleged illegal actions of ice or do people have an objection to
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the lawful deportation of illegal immigrants like yeah because wasn't there a protest at ucsb the other
08:11:30.980
day like uh there's no such thing as being illegal on stolen land or something and so it's like people
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clearly have an issue with the general lawful mission of ice they have a general issue with it which
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because they say they're targeting like drug dealers and like some of them are like some of them are
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yeah but they're also taking families and they're ripping apart families are they illegal immigrants
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they're illegal yeah they are if you live with your parents and you commit a crime and you get taken
08:12:00.180
to jail are you going to be taken away from your family though but over 70 of the detainees don't
08:12:04.980
even have criminal convictions why but why would that even matter why do you coming into the country
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illegally because didn't trump say he was going to go after the most violent i think yes but i mean
08:12:14.980
if that's priority but there's also this you can prioritize but you can also focus on
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like that that doesn't just give you complete free reign even if you don't know but it's not he
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doesn't seem like he's targeting like any drug dealers or anything i feel like most of the
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people he's detaining right now and they're deporting are families and people who are like that's
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the thing like yeah i mean he is they they did come here illegally but still if you're gonna like
08:12:41.060
deport wouldn't people you should first prioritize the people who are the drug dealers the people who
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said like they're bringing all this bad into the country but they're not wouldn't you actually object
08:12:49.220
so if if they were deporting like if they were separating families wouldn't you object to that more
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like wouldn't it be better like if i was going to be deported like let's say i was kicking it in china
08:12:59.620
for like a year and the chinese authorities and i got a family there or some and i bring my family
08:13:06.420
and they're also illegal immigrants or like overstated visa or whatever wouldn't it be better
08:13:12.580
for us for us all to be deported instead of them to leave like i almost would rather aren't they
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deporting the kids as well don't they just put them in separate detention centers i don't know about
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that but so let's all these little uh examples that you're bringing up let's even say you know what this
08:13:28.020
is really wrong but do you object to a general deportation of illegal immigrants no okay well
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but they're going about it the completely wrong way like they're completely abusing their power
08:13:41.300
like that's why there's so many riots and so many protests because everyone can see that but do you
08:13:45.220
think it's possible to undergo nationwide like there's millions upon millions of illegal immigrants
08:13:51.780
in this country and i'm not look if it was i wish humans were completely perfect and never made
08:13:57.220
mistakes and never made uh any you know never did anything wrong but like in any profession people
08:14:03.940
are going to make mistakes and those mistakes ought to be remedied or cured in some sort of way but like
08:14:11.220
trying to deport millions upon millions of people who don't want to leave the country is going to
08:14:17.940
involve a certain level of force it's going to they're not willingly self-deporting they're not
08:14:24.180
willingly leaving many of them are going to fight they want to stay here so how how in a utopian
08:14:32.980
perfect world do you it's an overcompensation for the amount of
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illegal immigrants that came in during the biden administration i think it's an overcompensation
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it by the way by the way during the obama administration during the biden administration
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it wasn't like they weren't deporting people yeah they were deporting people i know that yeah
08:14:54.180
the mainstream media was not highlighting it as much as it does when there's a conservative or
08:14:58.580
republican president because it's and they were using pictures during during trump's presidency the
08:15:04.820
the first term cages yeah the cages and it was actually taken during a like it's it's selective
08:15:10.260
outrage and also just so are we just going to ignore all the legal immigrants getting deported and
08:15:14.900
the legal immigrants okay they've been detained but i don't think they've been deported to the
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place but that's against the law there's a process about we're not yeah then why is i showing up to
08:15:25.540
court appointments and taking you have to show me cases of it individually and you can see all
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there's due process for people as well there's many people being taken when they're legal immigrants
08:15:34.020
they're stuck in these detention centers for months and then they just get released like nothing
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happened like and this is happening i haven't i'm not saying it doesn't exist i don't know how
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prevalent it is i would need to see that see the stats on it i don't think like we abolish like
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abolishing ice is the solution i don't think like this isn't this isn't unique this isn't unique to
08:15:53.620
america either like every country enforces their laws and their borders as it comes to immigration and
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for whatever reason when we do that in america it's like i'll ask you a question so let's i guess
08:16:06.020
moving off of immigration a little bit but still sort of on the topic if some if the police are
08:16:10.580
investigating a murder you do acknowledge that sometime there can be like a mistaken identity
08:16:15.940
and the police might like detain uh the wrong person and so typically what happens if the police
08:16:22.580
detain the wrong person they're going if that person is able to verify their identity uh although it is
08:16:28.180
like to some degree an infringement of rights to some degree the police eventually usually they
08:16:33.540
might get held for a couple hours and they're like oh we verified your identity you're free to leave
08:16:38.340
now that sucks it shouldn't happen but in the pursuit of justice sometimes mistakes happen i wish they
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didn't happen but as it relates to immigration yeah i i agree with you of course citizens should not
08:16:48.820
be being detained uh i think there's some really rare cases where they're allegedly being deported i don't
08:16:54.740
know what truth but they're also but there's like the new york times i saw like um i think there was
08:17:00.020
like an interview new york times but yeah sorry go ahead how does it matter they like they showed
08:17:05.700
different types otherwise it may be like five to ten people and they explained how they told them
08:17:10.020
repeatedly that they were legally here and they still wouldn't let them talk to anybody they're in
08:17:14.820
the detention center some of them for weeks some of them to months and then they just got released
08:17:19.220
like nothing happened like i can look at i can agree yeah like you like it's fine to deport people
08:17:25.380
whatever but they're not doing it in a strategic way like they're just they made a promise that they
08:17:30.500
wanted to get like they wanted to do this fast but now it's just becoming messy and like they should
08:17:35.700
have to like read like check how they're doing this like the whole program because it's obviously not
08:17:41.540
going well well i mean i i don't even think i disagree with you i would love it for optics reasons
08:17:46.660
if ice made zero mistakes but i still think you would have some objections to the the fundamental
08:17:53.940
core mission of ice even if there were no mistakes whatsoever i mean no i mean okay i i do empathize
08:18:00.900
with these families but yeah they did come here illegally like they do have to go but still like my main
08:18:06.340
problem is how they're i mean yeah maybe it's really rare they're not really deporting legal citizens but
08:18:12.500
they are detaining a lot of legal citizens or a lot of like people immigrants who have come here
08:18:17.540
legally and not even listening to their cases and there have been like many people speaking out
08:18:22.180
and also these detention centers are even worse than prison and people have said that like multiple
08:18:26.660
times yeah i mean perhaps but look ultimately um i i guess i would say that it seems like a bit of a
08:18:33.460
mot in bailey where it's basically like well i'm fine with illegal immigration but actually i'm not fine with
08:18:38.260
illegal uh or wait i just no i just empathize like that's it i feel bad for these families yeah it's
08:18:45.540
they did come here illegally but it's also sad to see a family like being ripped apart but i my main
08:18:50.980
problem with it and like the reason i like speak up about it is because that they're not doing it the
08:18:55.380
right way they've killed two people even if you agree that they were doing something wrong or not these
08:19:00.100
two people still died and then the biggest thing for me is that they're deporting immigrants but who came
08:19:05.780
here legally and that's kind of just defeating the whole purpose i i think that that while it might
08:19:10.820
happen i'd have to see it it's super rare but more detaining they're more they're detaining a lot of
08:19:16.020
point nine nine percent of people who are being detained they're completely legitimate valid
08:19:21.620
deportations so i would totally agree i totally agree with you though uh yeah if you deport somebody
08:19:26.980
who's a citizen that's completely wrong and there should be some sort of uh that you know maybe they're
08:19:33.460
they should be offered financial compensation for being unlawfully deported that's totally wrong
08:19:39.540
and it shouldn't happen but 99.99 the deportations are completely valid i'm gonna move it on though
08:19:46.260
off of this topic uh let's see here you're a fan of ice though can i i just didn't mean to derail the
08:19:51.700
show there uh julia okay blasting through your notes um you said you find a lot of the individuals
08:20:01.700
that you bring on are fascinating you think of yourself as the same what do you mean how so are
08:20:05.780
you the same um could you repeat that i'm like okay passing over that you got slapped on the first
08:20:13.700
date oh yes um there's a date i went on and i got slapped on my butt in front of kids it was oh on your
08:20:22.580
i thought and i thought that was kind of crazy and not not on the face no but it was crazy like why would
08:20:27.940
you slap a woman's ass like on a first date like in front of kids very inappropriate that's my crazy
08:20:34.820
thing yeah that's pretty inappropriate um uh okay you also uh the one of the unconsensual situation
08:20:43.940
wait situationship that healed you yeah so i don't like when i i looked back on my thing that i sent and
08:20:52.260
i don't really like that i labeled it like that by unconsensual something that's uninvited right i
08:20:56.980
just feel like um i have people who have loved me and i never invited love in and but they these were
08:21:04.420
both healing the two situationships i was in you were in two non-consensual situations well it's
08:21:13.460
when you say non-consensual or unconsensual are you talking about sex no you were you were in
08:21:19.540
non-consensual so the relationship itself was non-consensual so it wasn't you're not even
08:21:26.260
talking about sex you're saying the man forced you to be your girlfriend the the girlfriend no i'm
08:21:34.900
talking about um um being loved on like like loved on yes like being received by by a man
08:21:43.220
are you talking is this sex related no emotional
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non-consensual love yes you can unconsensually love someone i i know that the word unconsensual
08:22:01.460
is usually for physical stuff but so if i tell somebody i don't consent that they look at me have i been
08:22:10.260
been vision raped or like have i been have i been wronged no so if i tell you for the rest of the
08:22:22.340
show i don't give you consent to look at me for the rest of the show and you look at me have you
08:22:26.420
wronged me in some sort of way no i've just unconsensually looked at you i have not wronged
08:22:32.740
you i've just unconsensually looked at you you don't want me to but i've done it interesting okay
08:22:38.420
i'm trying to wrap my head around the i know it's plain semantics looked i don't know if
08:22:45.380
do you this is an interesting topic do you require consent to look at somebody do i like is that an
08:22:55.220
infringement on the other person i don't know i'm actually this is my brain is mangled on this one
08:23:05.620
the answer is no so you were in unconsensual sit two unconsensual situationships and they healed me
08:23:18.100
is anybody confused it's okay you're allowed to be confused i in my head when i wrote it down it
08:23:23.220
made sense it doesn't need to make sense um like on a like unconditional like human basis yeah no
08:23:29.140
like in a romantic oh no i do not you don't love me i okay so if i didn't
08:23:36.420
if i you didn't want them to love you correct like because i think i'd be
08:23:42.420
okay with a woman who i don't have any interest in it's okay if she loves me as long as she's not a
08:23:47.380
stalker but i don't know if i would categorize it as unconsensual i i'm trying to wrap my head
08:23:55.300
around this i maybe i'm just too low iq to fully understand what the fuck i maybe i'm too autistic
08:24:04.260
does anybody else want to help me i'm really confused can i ask you some clarifying questions
08:24:09.220
sure so does it make you uncomfortable that this person is in love with you
08:24:13.540
um unconsensual love it did not make me uncomfortable it made me feel um good about
08:24:20.580
myself but um it was not by my consent and you know i'm not in charge of how someone else feels
08:24:26.660
they are in charge of that yes and so i think what i'm hearing is that you just weren't in love
08:24:31.860
with them back wait yes the maybe it's just like you're you're using a word in like a not
08:24:39.860
appropriate coherent way but for example if a girl approaches me and shoots her shot
08:24:57.700
did she unconsensually approach me and shoot technically yes because you know you didn't
08:25:05.220
get her permission yes i guess technically it was done without consent so i don't know if like
08:25:10.020
that's wait not ever do you think that like like do you think that like say like i saw you out in
08:25:15.620
public and i was like oh like i thought you were cute like just for example like do you think that if
08:25:21.460
i came up to you and like said that i would have to be like hey is it okay with you if i come up to
08:25:26.900
you like would you want me to ask permission like no you don't need to ask permission it's just not
08:25:30.980
it's it's unconsensual like it's unconsensual i know the word whatever okay um and you but you
08:25:38.500
mentioned something about an essay is that related to these two no they are not is it the slap it is
08:25:45.300
not related to the slap okay all right okay uh maddie mother hold on uh one sec guys uh trans women
08:25:58.180
aren't aren't women but yeah i mean because i just don't think a woman is a feeling that someone
08:26:03.540
can have okay uh you also write women shouldn't be easy or have only fans well no agreed uh you said
08:26:16.740
it's ridiculous to expect your man to unfollow every girl uh well i just think men should not be
08:26:24.260
doing that to begin with so uh okay men in relationship okay i'll skip that one find the
08:26:30.340
traditional okay uh you don't you think like the man getting down on one knee and proposing is cringe
08:26:36.580
and outdated also you write yes that the host believes he's a five i'd rate him a little higher oh
08:26:45.140
oh i'm not as harsh as you are what do you rate me um i don't know like maybe like six
08:26:52.340
so okay i say i'm 4.5 by the way but okay i'll take it thank you uh let's see we have vicky
08:27:03.140
nothing for you uh all right uh erica oh she left lola left lucy no show all right we just have two
08:27:12.820
more uh madeline uh your thoughts on feminism i don't even remember what i put i think we touched on a
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lot of it though um i think at large it's not just about equality like we said if it was women would
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be drafted um i think men and women have different roles i don't think that's a bad thing i don't
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think that makes us lesser in value to them but i don't think we're necessarily equal or the same we
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both have different skill sets and things that we traditionally do well at so yeah okay uh
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what were the district you had this room to andrew wilson oh no okay so there was one thing i was
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hoping i wanted to talk to him about this but that's okay i'll stand in i'll do a very poor yes do your
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best andrew wilson impression it's on forced doctrine and i wouldn't say it's a disagreement
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well maybe it is a disagreement but so the whole forced doctrine thing i won't get into all of all
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of it but essentially like i guess i'll make the argument that because men can do certain things
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such as like they can't overpower women women women sorry oh my god i did the thing um because they
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can overpower women put them in cages whatever and they choose not to do that that that makes them
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benevolent i don't think that like refraining from doing something bad makes you necessarily
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benevolent so i just wanted to pick his brain or i guess your brain on that so i actually i'm i don't
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know his argument on on that specific thing so i i won't i'm gonna not stand in for him on it but uh
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he actually was recently on tim cast and i think he actually went in there i don't know if he talked
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about the benevolent component to it but whatever all right uh i think that's it for the show notes
08:29:12.580
pretty much i mean you had a few more here but i can't i'm obviously not able to do all of them
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all right we're gonna do mary what was there anything else for the reacts the bow video okay
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we'll do the bow video super quick so guys i took a video of my ex-girlfriend i showed to all future
08:29:29.300
girlfriends so they know how to act okay uh you got it ready mary yeah all right so go ahead and press
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play boom huge bow she has to bow for me as soon as i get home this was after a long podcast day
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so she's got to greet me at least uh when i get home with a bow just as a show of respect um gotta
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have my dinner ready after a long podcast gotta have a dinner ready crack open a beer for me i don't
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even drink but it's just there in case i want a little sip stir my noodles she's got to stir the
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noodles and yeah get ready ready to play the bow again huge bad you see the depth submissive hand
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posture deep bow what's that it's just like okay coming from a chinese right now this is nowhere near
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where our culture is currently standing like it's actually no it's the total opposite like
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nowadays chinese men they actually prefer their wives to just sit back and relax they'll take care
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of the housework they'll take care of the cooking they'll take care of that so i don't know i thought
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that was japanese matter of fact when i saw that and i saw the chinese characters i was like that's
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my culture yeah that has to be a guy it's not real the what the woman is a man is what you're saying
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no it has to be ai like there's no no that's that's for sure real well it's definitely
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of course a little bit well it's definitely like a skit or something because that genuinely
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doesn't exist in china coming from someone from yeah of course it's a skit but uh is that that's
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what i want okay that's what i that's what you want but yeah that's what i get in what world maybe
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not this one but brian world uh for the perfect man would you bow for him do that would you bat for
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him what what wait scoot your mic to the very edge of the table scoot your mic closer to you no oh
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well that's sorry okay um you got this would i bow to the most perfect man as a joke yeah like i don't
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know to in order to get the perfect man you have to do this once per day just bow all the other
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shit you know i mean you no perfect man would make their women bow to them well so here the the
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hypothetical would be there's a magic genie so the perfect man isn't asking you to do that the
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magic genie is saying in order for you to get the perfect man you have to do this as part of the wish
08:31:53.220
or whatever sure would you for the most perfect woman yeah i'd do it right if you put a genie in
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the question and you it's like a guaranteed perfect man i think we'd all do it because like most of the
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men out here are shit so who wouldn't for like the perfect man some women wouldn't some women say nope
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not even for the perfect man but for the perfect man you do it well if the genie can build me the
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perfect man because i'm doing it yeah but i'm not gonna do it just but it shouldn't take me bowing
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to him for him to be the perfect man like if it's like a real life situation where it's like conditional
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like oh he'll only be the perfect man if i bow to him then absolutely not so you can get the
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fuck out but if it's like the genie says i have to bow to him to get the perfect man and then
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all i have to do is bow then sure i think like your hypothetical is a good hypothetical and it's yes to
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that but in reality it's a no do you guys disagree or any i don't know i think perfect man do you hit
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the bow no no wait no you don't bow for the perfect man no no see see if he asks yes but he has to keep
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the toilet seat down i don't really see the point like what's the reason besides respect there's
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other ways to show respect is there not yeah but i want this like slapping them across the face
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oh but why why this specific one shots fired so your man can hit you but you won't bow to him we
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don't need to get into the weeds on it but will you do it sure what about you for your husband yeah
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why not what about you for your in the genie hypothetical yes but not if he's like requiring
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it of me are you christian yes which catholic yeah uh what does it say in the bible we're gonna get
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into submission i know we are does it say wives obey and submit your yeah and it says husbands love
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your wife as you can love your wife and want her to do a bow yeah i don't yeah it's possible but i
08:33:44.260
also think like definitely possible my well you're saying that i would love a woman more if she bowed
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but i i think like i i find it arrogant and like any like someone that's humble that loves me and
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respects me wouldn't require me to do that especially if it's not like it's not a prevalent cultural
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aspect of like that's anything either like would you think it was respectful if a guy bowed for you
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like would you like that if a guy was like bowing at your feet kind of cringe but adding on to that
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okay but like i'm just yeah i probably would kind of cringe if someone just about because people don't
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really do that like it's not necessary yeah um uh how about this let me make it less culturally weird
08:34:25.380
then uh so i here's another standard i have first time a girl comes over to my house she sometimes i
08:34:32.020
don't have laundry ready to go but she should be willing to do my laundry first time over first time
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over first time first that's the last time she'll be over at your house too then what do you mean is
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that i'm surprised you're able to even get a girl to come to your house if that's how you think like
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is that you made you paying her is she a cleaner uh no no she just i i think a woman look you guys
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are not gonna like this but i'm gonna give you some game i'm gonna give you all some game so look
08:35:00.020
if you really fucking like the guy and you're like i i want to do everything i can uh i want to optimize
08:35:08.020
my chances of like making this work make yourself help him help him make his life easier do things
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for him acts of service clean his house do his dishes do his laundry i and look it does take a bit
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of effort but it's really pretty minimal i'm telling you the guy will look at you different he'll be
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like this is fucking wifey material over here because like if you're dealing with a really top
08:35:35.060
tier guy really attractive guy uh beautiful women are very common pretty women there's a lot
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of beautiful women a lot of attractive women a lot of women willing to smash and get cracked and have
08:35:46.740
sex you gotta bring more to the table if you're deal and i'm sure most of you are uh dealing with
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i'm assuming a guy i i mean unless you're just dating like guys you're kind of lukewarm about i'm
08:36:00.340
assuming you're wanting to date guys you you're really you really really like right so you should
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try to do the most you should maximize your your ability to actually get the guy i agree with that
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but i also think that guys should be putting in the same amount of effort when they really like a girl
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who was it here who said i think it was you mahi didn't you say that uh the man has to like the
08:36:25.380
woman more who was that that was somebody here the the man has to be more in love with the woman
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i just think you put up with more than i i don't know because i love him i don't know what are you
08:36:42.180
doing to your boyfriend what are you doing no because i feel like it's worded no i don't raise my
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voice okay i believe you um i feel like it it's really bad to say but it's just like he might
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love me like a little bit more your boyfriend yeah but i love him like very deep yeah like i
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love him very deeply i love him more than like anyone else her boyfriend you guys are friends right
08:37:06.980
no she's never met but oh you know of him but you know okay um but it's not like it's like when you
08:37:14.420
say like that it's like oh like the woman like likes him and he loves her no like i love him
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very deeply he loves me very deeply i just think and like maybe if you're putting perspective like
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maybe he would put up with a little bit more than i would put up i guess
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i think it's the reverse i think it's the reverse i think the woman has to be more into the guy
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than the reverse that's my thought but uh laundry first first time over at the house would you do it
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for a man first time is a little bit too first time i think that's pushing i also think he would
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think that was weird yeah try it just fucking try it just look do this do this i'm gonna give you
08:37:51.780
girls some game okay i'm gonna give you some game don't listen to all these fucking cosmo and
08:37:56.740
fucking call her daddy all that bullshit don't listen to it i'm gonna give you game okay and look
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it is it will take a little a little physical effort doing some of these things but i'm telling you the
08:38:09.460
guy will look at you differently you go over to the guy's house first time over his house now your
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first instinct might be time to crack no no you could you should still probably do that but maybe
08:38:23.860
you do it first but then after the crack as soon as you crack you crack
08:38:30.100
then i do his laundry wow in the post sex glow excuse me rupert might i
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do your laundry offer him be like hey so do you need any help around the house you can say that
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hey i feel like any guy would just laugh like i don't know try it just fucking try it as an
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experiment you don't even have to want to do just try this experiment hey uh is there anything i can
08:38:56.340
help you out with around the house you need anything cleaned uh laundry you know don't be
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weird about it you know keep it kind of chill and cool and casual so don't just get up and start
08:39:06.100
building clothes what that could be hot too the girl just like you could just be like um where's
08:39:11.860
your laundry room oh okay i'll be right back you come back i started the wash what's up not
08:39:18.580
ask him for permission ask him for permission to do it can i help you with your laundry
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can i clean something for you can i cook something for you i'm telling you okay okay i'm telling you
08:39:35.060
because honestly that's game for a guy that's some game well even for men too if a guy came over to my
08:39:40.020
house and like i didn't have my laundry done he just started doing my laundry like i'd be like
08:39:43.860
okay it doesn't work the other way i think i'd be like well i know what maybe you're into i think
08:39:49.860
no well i've experienced you should see a therapist about that though but i'd have to know him for a
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while but like then i would be like i think it's a cultural difference like you want the guy to just
08:39:58.820
well that's how it's always been and in my family too with the girl like my sister who's in a two
08:40:03.300
three-year relationship getting married she's never done the laundry once her boyfriend does the
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laundry all the time cooks cleans makes the money everything i think it's just a cultural difference
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maybe with americans they think differently he does like but it's because he really loves her
08:40:18.020
but he also makes the money yeah and he provides everything he lets her drive around his seven
08:40:22.500
series bmw that's a hundred thousand he's getting yeah it's just for the perfect man so how does she
08:40:27.940
spend her day like what does she do well we're students they're all students but he's just rich so
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he's just able to do that for her and she got really really lucky we're really lucky so i think these
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men do exist out there and i'm like i'll say this from my opinion i'm not going to stoop my standards
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for someone who expects me to do their laundry because that's just not what i'm doing you wouldn't
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do it i would but not because they want me to like i'll do it if i want to but like um for the right
08:40:52.260
man too they he should not want you to be doing choice for him he should also want you to oh she
08:40:56.740
should be doing all kinds of chores as soon as possible the girl should be doing chores the first
08:41:01.300
date first date is like a bit much i would think that would see i would think that was weird if a guy
08:41:06.900
started doing like chores for the first date out of the u.s men don't act like that i think it's
08:41:11.220
something maybe you should come to asia come check out how we are over there it's totally opposite
08:41:15.060
you should learn are you saying that the the guys are like doing all that for yeah yes so why would
08:41:20.100
i go to asia wait hold on no no that's totally so you can get like a different perspective on
08:41:24.900
you're like oh i want a submissive girl blah blah hold on there look i've i've not been to any asian
08:41:30.340
countries so i don't have like firsthand experience but the reports seem to indicate that uh
08:41:37.060
yeah asian women are typically more submissive correct and typically more but then asian men
08:41:41.940
are also more um nurturing and they're more like no no don't do this don't do it i'm nurturing no
08:41:46.740
you are not i'm so nurturing you american how so nurturing how in what way i like to after my like
08:41:54.660
my girl does a good job with the laundry i pat her on the head wow good girl like a pet
08:41:59.380
wow like a dog yeah uh no you give a little pat their own if that's your key rage bait oh if a
08:42:09.140
girl i'm just playing i'm i just i just successfully rage baited you
08:42:14.500
no i'm i'm telling you you gotta i literally i'm not even exaggerating
08:42:20.100
after a girl folds my laundry i give her a pat on the head and then what does she do wait so you
08:42:26.420
do have a girl she thinks it's funny huh wait so you do have a girlfriend no i'm saying uh oh
08:42:32.260
well it didn't work out well that doesn't make any sense no he has a girlfriend he does no i'm a
08:42:38.100
virgin i'm a virgin no no i don't have a i i don't have a girlfriend uh currently i guess you could
08:42:43.780
say uh i don't speak about my relationship status but um i'm question of the women i have dated yeah
08:42:50.980
you do a little pat on the head you have a little spank on the butt
08:42:55.940
i'm not even a tree like oh my god good job he's getting flashbacks
08:42:59.700
also you just you just like squish her against the wall too you just squish her against the wall you
08:43:05.460
put all your weight especially me it's like crazy you just squish her against the wall and you're like
08:43:11.140
thanks babe and then you just squish her for like two minutes and she's happy like you hold the dog oh
08:43:17.700
my god no i'm not fucking bear hugging suffocating it's just a little pressure a little pressure i
08:43:23.540
squish her against the wall and then i fucking tickle her and like oh gosh scratch her back
08:43:29.780
yeah it's good this is sounds so terrible no right i kill myself madeline likes it
08:43:37.460
okay good talk all right well you guys just don't know what you're talking about
08:43:40.900
clearly missing out thank you thank you for the advice look just fucking try it just try it once
08:43:48.020
i'm telling you telling you just be like i'll try it and when he ghosts me after i'll dm you
08:43:56.100
if it doesn't work we're coming for you ryan imagine like this is the this could have been the love
08:44:01.460
of your life but you listen to me i totally fuck everything up for you you like leave my house
08:44:08.020
like what if he's like leave my house hey shit you never know i'm just saying i think it would work
08:44:12.340
i think it i'm you know what it will 100 work 67 of the time it works 67 what happens every
08:44:19.460
percent of the time wait so it doesn't work 69 of the time it works every time 100 of the time
08:44:26.180
something like that just think yeah no i think uh give it a shot try it oh fuck i had a really good
08:44:32.740
question related to this but it just vanished in my brain okay i'm just going to get into the
08:44:38.020
rapid fire questions this is sort of the final segment it's a string of questions here we go
08:44:47.380
uh wait actually i remember what it was okay before we get to the final segment
08:44:55.700
what men should pay for dates men should be chivalrous men should provide men should protect
08:45:02.740
why is it okay to say that but it seems like when you say women should
08:45:10.500
oh whoa you're being a sexist you're being a misogynist
08:45:14.660
i don't understand i don't think that's kind of the same thing as what you just said earlier like
08:45:18.100
when i said oh men should do the laundry you're like well men shouldn't it's just kind of like
08:45:21.940
well if you want to speak traditionally yeah it's traditional gender roles in our society
08:45:26.020
well no but the traditional gender roles for women seem to be deemed as oppressive or misogynistic or
08:45:33.700
sexist whereas the traditional male gender roles even in 2026 seem to be static who said that though
08:45:41.780
what do you mean who said that like i didn't say like none of us i don't think any of us said that it
08:45:45.140
was so i think i'm speaking in a general sense of where i think society would be at i think
08:45:50.100
generally if a man were to say i uh i think a woman should cook i think a woman should make me a
08:45:57.300
sandwich i think a woman should clean i don't think that's misogynistic i think well maybe you don't
08:46:01.940
think that but i think at least in terms of a comparative a comparison i do think that there's
08:46:07.860
going to be a a greater negative appraisal of any time we say women should that's going to more often
08:46:14.740
for a guise of misogyny sexism blah blah blah but no such criticism would ever be made of a woman
08:46:23.220
saying men should pay on dates men should provide protect be chivalrous even like a liberal like a
08:46:29.300
lot of progressive women are still want these things so i don't know here i'll put it i'll frame
08:46:36.660
it like this the same woman that would say it's a sexist trope and stereotype or it's sexist
08:46:42.660
misogynistic for a man to expect or say women should cook and clean i think it's it would be
08:46:50.100
likely that that same woman would say men should pay for dates well men should provide men should
08:46:55.380
protect like yeah anybody my can you dab really quick can you just do dab are you too young for
08:47:05.140
that i feel like you're that's before your time did you dab are you dabber i'm only 19 i'm a dabber
08:47:10.900
can you dab show us a dad i'm not gonna but it was it's this come on no it's am i allowed to dab
08:47:15.860
vicky do it no she has to do it vicky vicky icky icky hit the dab right now or plank plank or dab you
08:47:25.060
you guys definitely don't know what the plank is do you guys know what the plank is what not the
08:47:29.940
exercise yeah planking what's a plank the exercise on the floor still like you guys don't know what
08:47:35.780
yeah yeah what is it older gen z yeah wait what year were wait i'm 07 you're born 2007 planking is
08:47:44.660
before i'm pretty sure i was like 2012 like around 2012 yeah 2011 yeah i was five planking i think
08:47:52.500
or wait maybe my dates are off whatever i was in middle school i was in middle school yeah uh
08:47:56.900
uh but why is it okay for women to say you should you know what i've done i don't have the
08:48:01.620
expectations since like i don't like i don't have i don't really like yeah gender roles exist but
08:48:07.140
honestly like i don't really like believe in them so i don't have the expectation like oh men should
08:48:13.060
pay for the first dates men should provide like especially men should provide no i can take care
08:48:17.060
of myself at independent did your boyfriend vote for trump no my boyfriend's not a republican at all my
08:48:25.220
boyfriend's liberal or so you think he is i've sat down with he loves you he you know what the
08:48:32.500
problem is he loves you so much no he's not willing to disclose who he actually voted for his parents
08:48:38.660
are also immigrants like they i've met his family like they're also very like liberal his mom's
08:48:43.140
in the health care system so she's also liberal immigrants for trump no not not them some of them are okay
08:48:50.020
but that's the thing i don't have the expectation exactly because also yeah like i realized like it
08:48:56.420
is um hypocritical for me to have this expectation like oh women shouldn't have gender norms and force
08:49:02.100
in them but then we also shouldn't enforce same gender roles on men that they've always had like
08:49:06.500
they should provide they should take care of us they should pay for the first dates they should be
08:49:10.420
chivalrous so i don't have the expectation but my boyfriend is like i mean he is kind of like he is
08:49:15.780
very chivalrous and i think your boyfriend's kind of based secretly what do you mean i i don't know
08:49:22.420
i get this i don't even know what your boyfriend looks like i don't know who do you like post your
08:49:26.580
boyfriend i do post my boyfriend okay i haven't really done a deep dive on your instagram or whatever
08:49:31.380
but uh i feel like he's secretly kind of republican he is not republican i can tell you that and i have no
08:49:37.940
fucking idea uh how about this uh before we get into the final segment should a man be willing to
08:49:51.380
i would take a bullet for my husband like how deep in the relationship i guess marriage yeah i feel
08:49:56.420
like you take a bullet no kids though no kids no kids still yes because i feel like marriage if you're
08:50:01.780
married you're married you should see them as like an equal or if not like higher i guess not that you
08:50:06.100
should like put them before yourselves but like the expectation is that you do love them so much
08:50:11.300
that you're able to and then if that's just not the case then maybe i think you just married the wrong
08:50:14.980
person like if you're not willing to sacrifice yourself for the person you claim you love then do
08:50:21.140
you really love them especially someone that you chose to spend the rest of your life with
08:50:24.580
in this cage marriage i feel like dating wise like low-key could be no like it really depends like if
08:50:29.780
you're dating it's like i wouldn't get mad at someone for saying no of course i need to hear more
08:50:34.260
but like if you're married the expectation should be like yeah i think you should do y'all think it
08:50:45.620
like if in a situation you have to pick is it you or your girlfriend you or your wife do you think it
08:50:51.380
would be beta for the man to sacrifice the woman instead of him yes yeah yeah beta i think so
08:50:59.620
i was like damn i actually think i by the way i don't but i i don't consider myself an alpha
08:51:07.380
i'm a i'm a sigma male okay sigma uh i don't believe in the beta alpha thing i think it's
08:51:16.020
it's super cringe when especially a guy who calls himself alpha males fucking cringe
08:51:21.540
i'm a fucking sigma male though but just kidding but anyways i actually think it's more alpha
08:51:26.980
alpha male grind set for the woman to die what like it's more alpha alpha because you're just
08:51:37.540
too tough huh you can't die you just no it's like the the more alpha thing to do isn't the more alpha
08:51:43.860
thing to do to protect your woman and to take the bullet for her no she'd take you use her in fact as a
08:51:48.820
meat shield you you you put her in front of you like catch we're looking for some wow i know there's
08:51:56.580
no way he actually thinks like that there's no way no look if i would do as much as i can to dispatch
08:52:03.220
the threat and i would protect my girl but like in a hypothetical situation where it's like
08:52:09.540
one of you has to die there's no loophole you can't get out of it
08:52:12.420
she's got to go well i wish you could say the same thing about you never i'm never gonna get
08:52:19.620
pussy again by the way ever it's done i'm gonna be fucking incel because i just said this it's
08:52:24.260
gonna get clipped oh my god brian such a bitch what sorry go ahead no i didn't say anything oh i
08:52:29.540
thought you were gonna say something but then i started spurring out no no okay is there a logical
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explanation behind this alpha mindset yeah the alpha male mindset i would say uh i would say
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self-preservation and survival well self-sacrifice and selflessness i wish i you know that scene from
08:52:50.260
i think is it the hangover where they're that asian guy's like huh gay um i yeah self-sacrifice that
08:52:57.300
sounds super lame to be honest i think that uh like you guys know genghis khan my genghis khan
08:53:05.860
that guy apparently had like dozens or even hundreds of wives and concubines
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you think put in a position where yes genghis khan has to either give his life
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to protect the life of one of his concubines or wives that's one of hundreds that motherfucker no
08:53:24.500
that if he had to be like okay you can it's you genghis khan or all your wives he'll still probably
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pick himself he's picking himself right that's alpha male alpha male genghis khan largest contid
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contiguous land empire ever in history alpha's right no okay hold on i don't think they're i
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don't think we can dispute the alpha maleness of genghis khan here like this motherfucker's alpha
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male this is a hypothetical situation it didn't happen right well what do you mean like was he ever
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put in a situation where he had to choose between sacrifice i would be like i don't know too much
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there's probably actually maybe records of it i'm pretty sure this motherfucker probably killed
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a couple of his wives or concubines like historically kings king king henry the eighth in england uh we
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had that lola girl she could have helped king henry the eighth this was like the we miss it
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it was like the 15 i think it was the 1500s or was it the 14 14 1500 i'm blanking on the date here
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he what what's the saying with king henry beheaded or divorced beheaded died divorced beheaded died
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like anne boleyn you guys do you guys know oh his five wives he had five or six wives
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yeah it was divorced yes yeah king henry fucking get no i don't think it was guillotine but it was
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no nobody's anyone that has is anybody is anybody getting what i'm putting down yo
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no no okay all right well uh i'm just saying i don't know why should men
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fucking die that's why should women die no they were the one that's giving birth
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like the next generation right like you think if a woman tells me hey brian like i'm not gonna like
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jump in front of the bullet for you i'm not like oh oh that's unattractive whereas like all the
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shit i just said right there like 90 percent of women instantly just completely dry like yeah
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because what happened to like provide and protect right like you said like as a man that's your
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biological tendency so act on it yeah but i reject that so so you basically provide and protect to an
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extent yes okay to an extent then but if it's like a choice in a hypothetical yeah she can take the bullet
08:56:09.620
look i'm gonna try i'm not gonna just yeah i'll try to help a little that's why you was getting
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shot in the first place i hope you meet a girl that changes your mind for real like the perfect
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woman i hope it does happen soon we're like everything is just unconditional and they'll be
08:56:23.700
we're gonna have robots pretty soon so i'll probably be maybe you can cop one of those
08:56:27.540
think that you're like wait what maybe you can get get one of those robots make them make
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build your own perfect submissive girl that you've always wanted and live your life with that
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i don't know bring on i'm kind of fine with the robots to be honest i think
08:56:39.380
humans just didn't work out for you you need robots now no i get it i'll have a robot and then
08:56:43.940
i'll like have a human that sounds so bad i'll have a human too give me the i'll take two robots and
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a human thank you thank you very much all right let me get through the rapid fire questions here
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okay name three countries besides the usa okay and you can't repeat any answers
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did you say continents or countries countries oh countries oh i thought you said continents no
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no countries oh my god i'm so sorry okay try again okay countries besides the us yeah okay um
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spain france germany china japan korea laos cambodia morocco romania russia north korea
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uzbekistan canada and ireland sudan colombia and palestine
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oh my god it's me um it's like i forgot everything i've ever known now um i'm an idiot
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did we say russia already did we say russia already i don't think so no that's one um russia
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to england that's two russia england and um did we say bolivia there we go
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what are you um thailand taiwan and did someone say canada or mexico i said canada sorry okay
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america south america did we say africa i get no no not for this europe
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i don't know what uh oh no no last con there's one last continent left
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everybody say it again because i'm so sorry i feel like this is an idiot
08:59:11.940
it's late yeah i don't remember what everybody said is that is the remaining one
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i don't even know it was australia it was australia okay uh what two countries border
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why are you saying it with a question mark at the end you're making me nervous
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hey no helping no helping i was gonna say 50 i was gonna say 51 but then i was like wait no
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that's a trick question is it not we i don't not a trick question washington dc hey yeah hey no helping
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she's wrong what is what do you think it is there's a capital of the whole usa chat
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like the u.s capital like the washington i don't oh i don't know this the state
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or the uh how many stars don't help guys don't help how many stars are on the u.s flag
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answer the question 50 you guys are both correct congratulations what century wait but you didn't
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answer the question what's the capital of the usa i'm curious she got it it was washington dc but okay
09:00:58.420
okay uh what what century what what century are we in 21st century
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first how many in one dozen into the into the mike mahi mahi 12. thank you for the four uh what year
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1842 was it oh was it 1873 or something 1776 1776 wait it's not 18 1776
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yeah yeah that is the correct answer congratulations who did the u.s gain its independence from
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britain you are correct who was the first president of the usa
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how many inches in a foot 12 how many seasons are there four how many days in a year 65 how many
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letters in the alphabet 26 how many days of the week and with the letter y all seven days of the week
09:02:42.100
what's the shape what's the shape with four sides called square uh how uh what language do the people
09:02:48.900
in idaho speak english you are correct what ocean is california next to
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pacific into the mic correct okay what is half of one million
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five hundred thousand five hundred thousand how many years in a decade a hundred a thousand
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and uh ten thousand wait no you're you're you're rage rating me it's a hundred
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how many are in a century a hundred there we go if a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg
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yeah yeah that's right anybody else just wanted uh how much what do you think is she right sure 40
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40 cents 40 cents i think it would be 25 no it's right no it's no girl it's three divided by 12
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that's what time yeah what times three equals to 12 oh four at the decimal point point four
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what is it a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg
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quick here you wait i'm coming back to you what do you think it's it's gotta be 40 cents 40 cents okay
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probably there's a there's a bit of consensus here 40 cents probably 40 cents okay
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what no you tell me what you think probably what do you think i just said 40 cents yeah 40 cents 40
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cents what do you think yeah 40 cents what do you think sure wait no i don't think she's right 25
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cents wow i was she's low-key right she's looking right it's 25 cents you were gaslighting her so
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hard no i was like i was like wait i thought about it i was like oh i'm so sorry i don't care i'll take
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the l on math no you got that it's 25 i thought it was you threw all you threw everybody off yeah i
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really thought we were on to something confidently mommy is just so confident didn't you say she was
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right though no i don't think so no i did you said she was right no yes you did for a second you did
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say we were right 40 cents and then that's when i started gaslighting her and then i thought about
09:05:23.220
it i was like wait she's right oh 40 oh okay what do you think um anyways uh wait where are we oh what is
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the closest star to earth uh the sun i don't know about that does anybody have a different guess or
09:05:42.100
i'm actually not certain it's the sun just guess the sun the sun you are correct it is the sun uh
09:05:50.580
let's see do you know what year the war of 1812 started
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what year the war of what the war of 1812 started what year no i don't know 1812 that is correct
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what country actually hold on i'm gonna come back to that what is 34 plus 66
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six 100 are you guys sure yes are you sure okay no don't even play what country is the panama canal in
09:06:42.660
panama panama you are correct okay what is seven plus seven plus seven 21. okay where did the attack
09:07:03.380
anybody have a different good so so pearl harbor it's a place of the pearl harbor
09:07:09.220
pearl harbor took place at pearl harbor yeah in hawaii japan no pearl harbor's not in japan where's
09:07:21.700
the united states was it the united states that bombed pearl harbor yes in japan
09:07:28.980
and that's what made the japanese enter world war ii i feel like i'm getting rage baited like i don't
09:07:35.060
yeah uh what is three times three plus one wait can you answer if that's true no without no we did
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bomb them after they attacked us in pearl harbor in hawaii and so we yeah in hawaii so we attacked
09:07:46.980
them in uh hishimura hiroshima and nagasaki yeah so pearl harbor's in hawaii pearl harbor's in hawaii
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yeah yeah not japan okay and the japanese attacked us in pearl harbor
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well i got it mixed up it's okay i got it reversed for the best of us what is three times three plus
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one and what country did the vietnam war happen in vietnam what is seven minus seven minus seven
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negative seven right you are correct how much is a quarter of an hour uh 25 oh wait no uh
09:08:32.580
i feel put on the spot you got this quarter of an hour you know it would be 25 minutes right nobody
09:08:48.340
helped 15 or be yeah it is 15 minutes you know that would be a quarter of a dollar but i was talking
09:08:58.180
about an hour okay what is 100 minus 66 me or her you 34. what is 8 plus 8 plus 8 8 16 24. three times
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three times three times three oh what the fuck you it's three it's 27. i had to think about that thank you
09:09:20.100
sir sir uh what is nine minus nine minus nine negative nine what is 100 minus 34. 66. if yes
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is spelled y-e-s what does e-y-s spell nice congratulations you got it right if you were
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born 10 years ago how old would you be today eight four wait if i was born 10 years ago how old would you
09:09:47.140
be today yeah okay uh how many world wars were there what uh this is for the whole table going
09:09:56.260
around what decade so i'm looking for like 1830s uh 1930s just the decade what decade was world war one
09:10:05.780
1812 to 1814 no no i don't need the date range just what decade so 18 the 1810s
09:10:12.100
yeah okay for world war one world war one the 1910s 1910s okay it was 1910s okay 1910s i'd say 1900 but
09:10:23.540
that century but okay 1910s 1910s same what was the primary decade of world war ii starting on this side
09:10:31.380
um how was that um how was that 1940s i was gonna say 1930s 1940s 1939 1940s late 30s to 40s um yeah 40s
09:10:49.140
okay can you name i'll skip that one uh can who can name three kardashians
09:10:55.860
kim kardashian kourtney kardashian khloe kardashian anybody else can okay well uh
09:11:07.220
oh wait oh this is a good question for you the virgin okay you're a virgin correct i am a virgin
09:11:12.500
do you have a celebrity crush um i i did when i was younger who it was zach geffron still still a bit of
09:11:20.020
of a crush oh yeah of course sure yeah um and you're waiting until marriage before you have
09:11:25.140
sex yes sir for your celebrity crush do you break your rule oh no no no no no but you don't break your
09:11:30.740
rule for anybody nope unless they pay you through a website for okay uh let's see here um what do you
09:11:42.260
rate your personality on the scale of zero to ten i think everyone has personality flaws so i'd give
09:11:50.820
myself like an eight okay i agree i'd say an eight nine eight are we allowed to do seven on this one
09:12:01.460
seven nine seven eight what percentage of men these are more those were like math ones and
09:12:10.660
fucking geography ones these are more like dating related what percentage of men do you think are
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over six feet give me a percentage oh um maybe like 30 percent okay 30 percent i'd say like
09:12:26.020
15 15 15 15 15 like five percent five percent my say 20 20 20 to 30 10 10 15 5 to 10. what percent of
09:12:40.260
men it's 15 by the way about what percentage of men make at least one million dollars a year
09:12:47.860
like less than one person i agree less than one percent yep less than one less than one percent two percent
09:12:55.940
less than one less than one what percent of men have a yacht uh five five percent okay less less than 0.5
09:13:08.660
if only one percent are millionaires then 0.2 less than one percent less than one percent less than one
09:13:15.460
percent less than one percent less than one percent i'd say less than like 0.5 does anybody here keep a list of
09:13:21.300
all the men you've cracked yes absolutely not with their zodiac signs damn you got the list what did
09:13:30.180
you say four was the what was the body count two two really yeah you need a list for that but i have
09:13:35.780
a list of people i've kissed too so hey yo gals girl time right now
09:13:45.380
who you guys buying this just girl talk right now yes she's not here
09:13:49.940
two you guys buy it i'm like very picky sure well mine is two i would you buy it i think like yeah
09:13:58.420
but you're 18. yeah wait how old are you 26. but i also said i was only in one relationship
09:14:04.580
was your virginity when i was 20. oh going around the table i was 17 going around the table i was
09:14:09.140
also 17. i was 15. young yikes okay well we're talking consensual here oh 16. still past 16. has
09:14:20.340
yet to occur still a virgin 20. what 20 you were 20 okay 14. okay what about you 17. i actually think
09:14:31.060
i was 16. when i think about it what if it just like what if you're like 50. like are you at that
09:14:39.140
point you're just gonna be like i guess i'll let somebody crack i've thought about him i'm thinking
09:14:43.700
maybe my 30s if it happens it might happen are you gonna become a nun um i've thought about it
09:14:49.700
how should mormons don't have nuns right mormons don't have nuns but i've thought about
09:14:53.700
maybe pursuing different religion maybe oh to accommodate the nun thing
09:14:57.780
wait so you you would change religions just to be a nun possibly it's not a yes i don't think
09:15:06.180
they'd let you do that okay final mostly final few questions here do you have a ross or have you
09:15:13.620
ever had a roster and how what was the biggest it ever was no i i can't even barely okay one person
09:15:22.180
use your words no no for first dates and stuff yes i lost the sheet of paper
09:15:30.660
how are we defining roster like people you talk to or people you sleep with that means like talking
09:15:34.660
to multiple people right yeah basically don't have to be sleeping with them to be on the roster
09:15:39.220
i mean i think i've just flirted but i wouldn't say i have an official roster no
09:15:42.500
what about you no roster roster madeline come on it just means like wait that just means you've
09:15:49.380
been talking to multiple people then yeah maybe like three people i was dating before anything
09:15:55.220
serious yeah have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them no never wait i'll start first
09:16:03.060
i have i'm a terrible person terrible person my your boyfriend no first date okay it has yet to
09:16:16.340
what's your you said you engage in fellatio what's your fellatio body count what is oh is
09:16:26.580
fellatio is oral because you said you you don't you do do oral sex yes that's interesting as many guys
09:16:33.300
as i've dated and that is seven so oral sex count is seven sure yes maybe more give or take yeah okay
09:16:45.140
oh what was the question again well so i guess the quickest what's the question you ever
09:16:49.540
gave oral the quickest copy is it oral copulation i think oh i haven't i don't have a quick it's like
09:17:00.420
i don't have metrics i don't have personal metrics for that like you don't recall no well i'm not
09:17:06.020
looking for like to the second but like was it the same day you met you meet a guy same day oh no it
09:17:12.340
has not no no no definitely no same day uh it was technically our first time meeting irl but we had
09:17:17.460
a video called for months before this uh what about you no same day no what's the quickest for
09:17:23.460
everybody i think i'm being completely honest yeah like one or two weeks anyone here ever had a
09:17:35.700
threesome anyone had the hoe phase yeah i had a threesome oh two guys no two girls actually
09:17:45.460
wait all three of you were girls yes oh okay uh has anyone here ever hooked up with two guys in a 24
09:17:52.580
hour period no okay uh do men suck no no are men trash no really really it can't be uh do we need men
09:18:05.460
yes yes yeah yeah my not the answer hey uh look over here being quiet come on answer the question no
09:18:15.460
like really where's the black girl when you need a really for what like well replication
09:18:27.460
survival societally kind of need men you like electricity right you like running water right
09:18:37.780
you like internet right you like cell phone right you like waste management right
09:18:43.380
you like uh having to depart your home due to fires right
09:18:56.500
oh mahi a roving band of badass kick-ass ninja women just actually fuck it never mind whatever uh is it
09:19:06.020
gay for a man to date a trans woman i think this is our final question yes oh sorry wait what is the
09:19:12.180
question is it gay for man to date a trans woman is it or is it straight
09:19:18.180
however for a straight wait if i was dating a trans woman would that be gay or straight
09:19:26.580
it's up to your definition i guess it would be gay i don't know
09:19:29.780
if you didn't know it's straight if you did know it's gay i feel like it's gay regardless but
09:19:38.260
i mean there's nothing wrong with it but it's still gay it's straight okay but
09:19:44.180
go ahead gay is like it's up to your interpretation really well no i don't think it's up to interpretation
09:19:50.020
though because gay means the same-sex attraction if a transgender what did we what did you say
09:19:55.940
well transgender woman is a biological man his sex never change so therefore if he's attracted to
09:20:03.540
a transgender woman he has same-sex attraction because you can't change your sex so i don't see
09:20:17.460
it's a bit gay it's a little gay question so if you saw two dude well if you saw
09:20:25.940
two men crossing swords crossing swords but one of them told you they identified as a woman
09:20:34.900
would that be a heterosexual act like they're they're sword fighting they have like bottom surgery
09:20:44.180
let's do this all right well i'd say that's still gay still gay to me but okay whatever uh guys
09:20:50.500
i'm wrapping the show here do you guys we do a segment where y'all take your makeup off who's
09:20:55.060
down to take their makeup off vicky icky you want to take your makeup off i don't care like i don't
09:21:01.140
look that different but it's like i like to keep it on i mean aren't you like going i'm going to bed
09:21:05.460
soon i'll take it off i'm a gentleman i'm just trying to be nice i'm probably going to stay up until
09:21:10.180
my classes because it's already 2 a.m oh i have a 9 a.m lecture so i'll probably be up
09:21:16.580
like uh okay i'm gonna get this all wrapped up do you want to you guys want to do it just save it we we
09:21:21.940
show the audience the damage afterwards just show the i can't use the wipes on my face you're gonna
09:21:27.620
oh it's gonna fuck you all right guys uh mary can you pull up twitch really quick
09:21:35.860
pull up twitch guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever i'm gonna hold you guys hostage we need
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guys it's been 50 minutes since we last had prime sub i barely run any ads on the twitch streams guys i'm
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09:22:02.100
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09:22:09.460
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09:22:15.620
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thank you thank you okay um i think that's it those of you took your makeup off can you just hold it up
09:23:19.700
really quick and then we'll go do the outro show us the damage that's nothing show us the damage hold
09:23:26.820
it up hold it up vicky did you nope not vicky rip okay all right there it is folks that is the
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that is makeup and it is magical all right uh they all look the same literally like before i wrap this
09:23:42.980
up any thoughts from anybody my did you want to talk some shit or something no i was worried i was
09:23:48.740
like she wants she may wants to come on back on she's gonna she's gonna talk some shit or something but
09:23:54.820
no it wasn't that the first time oh okay well that's good all right by the way guys we're hiring for a
09:24:01.620
new helmet girl we're hiring for a new helmet girl we're hiring uh i think we're trying to get
09:24:06.260
another production assistant we're hiring for a background soldier um yo who does it
09:24:13.460
you you looking for a job what job we we have a role called background
09:24:18.980
helmet girl okay didn't you guys see it i saw wait what does she do though like i saw her wearing
09:24:23.220
a helmet in the back so when i get like you you're either it depends like sometimes we'll have
09:24:28.180
an empty seat you might take the mtc on the panel on a given day otherwise you're just kicking in the
09:24:32.900
back and you're just you get a front row seat to the show and then when i get up you get to take my
09:24:38.660
seat and you can help like carry the conversation while i have to momentarily sometimes step away and
09:24:45.860
that's pretty much it how much is the pay we'll talk after the talk after the show well i'll we can
09:24:50.820
inquire more about yeah we can talk more we can see i feel like it's uh we we recently had a departure
09:24:57.140
from the show um she regrettably started in only fans but we don't talk about we don't the the
09:25:03.860
woman who may not be named wait what the fuck harry potter voldemort whatever uh no no it's there's
09:25:09.060
no beef there but uh you know she did depart uh big l big l massive l massive no i'm not hey it's no
09:25:17.860
shade it's no shade but big l big l well mostly an l on us to be honest but anyways uh we can talk
09:25:26.100
more after the show but we are hiring for for anybody watching or whatever so uh we are hiring
09:25:31.780
for roles um maybe we're gonna have your boyfriend start working for us probably i think maybe that
09:25:37.060
might happen i'll know maybe he's looking for a job so we can buy her some uh okay all right sorry
09:25:44.500
spurging out here all right uh gg wait fuck gg well played good game to the panel you guys were so fun
09:25:51.220
thank you guys it was a fun panel uh it was a fun convo i i had a good time i hope you guys enjoyed
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it it did go a little long did go a little late but you guys were good sports thank you for staying
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final thoughts from anybody here or no you're all i know it's a long show why did you laugh well oh seven
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i'm an oh seven oh seven it's yeah yeah okay oh seven is just uh like a salute okay basically uh
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oh seven's and that mary are we forgetting anything marrington are we i feel like we're forgetting
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something i don't think so so yeah i don't i don't think so um no we're good okay uh all right oh seven's
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mary did anybody lie about their body count still zero anybody no mine's two one no i'm serious
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did anybody lie about anything no no my what did you lie about tonight what did you lie about
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anybody like no lies told body count no sarah stock girls here okay we're definitely not still recording
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by the way yeah but even yeah we're definitely not still live right now okay did anybody the time
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we're still going yeah oh that's that's obs is bugged nobody like lied no i genuinely too and they
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were both my exes i don't hook up i think i've mentioned that before right like yeah definitely
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not still alive by the way okay uh good night guys we will see you next time all right good night