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00:03:43.720 location and occupation go ahead my name is ali corvin i am 27 and i just moved to santa barbara

00:03:51.200 and i am a professional dancer from my wheelchair all right and uh where where were you from uh prior to

00:03:58.600 sb or like where did you where you grow up grow up i guess in the central valley of california so i'm

00:04:04.340 like from the fresno area okay got it and you do wheelchair dancing do you have you ever done

00:04:10.800 any stunts in your wheelchair i mean you would have to define a stunt but yeah i actually am

00:04:16.900 ambulatory so i have the use of my legs i'm very blessed to have that um but it means i push the

00:04:21.520 boundaries of dance in a wheelchair and what that means so we actually have a show this weekend i don't

00:04:26.600 know if i can say what it is but we have a show this weekend happening in santa barbara

00:04:29.060 and um wheelchair strip show absolutely not oh well i thought you could maybe that's why you

00:04:35.020 couldn't say it because it was of an adult nature more like uh children are involved in the show

00:04:39.520 totally opposite oh okay have at it probably um you can create all kinds of scenarios up here i'm

00:04:44.980 sure but yeah i've done and you said you do have function of your legs but um so and you what was

00:04:51.660 the term you used ambulatory or what's so what's that ambulatory just means like you have walking

00:04:57.420 capacity in some fashion so like 75 of wheelchair users have some capacity okay gotcha okay and

00:05:05.000 have you been in a wheelchair your entire life or no i've had my wheelchair for about four years so

00:05:09.420 2020 is when i finally was officially able to get a wheelchair they are expensive and to get insurance

00:05:14.720 to cover one is crazy so okay and i think i saw on your instagram it's it's due to a uh is it a

00:05:21.820 genetic disorder or what what is it yeah i have a genetic condition and i also have a tbi so sorry to

00:05:28.680 hear that that's okay uh yeah what what now traumatic brain injury yeah oh yeah okay yeah

00:05:34.640 uh did you get into a fight with somebody else in a wheelchair and they knocked you unfortunately it

00:05:40.460 was not that cool i've been like in all kinds of accidents never got a tbi i've been in a train

00:05:44.720 accident when i was younger a train i was literally in a train accident we hit a strawberry truck it was

00:05:48.940 very minor strawberry a strawberry truck of all things and it smells so good and we were tortured

00:05:52.980 you think it would have been like less intense if it was like a blueberry truck

00:05:56.320 like i wonder because blueberries are smaller so i feel like

00:06:00.000 you know smaller truck maybe the truck smaller package smaller or the the blueberries would dampen

00:06:06.340 the impact maybe a bit for sure so how much mobility do you have without the wheelchair so

00:06:13.140 like mobility is like a relative term so when i'm like i'm capable of standing walking running it's not

00:06:21.200 going to happen or i look like a baby deer um but if i were to dance out of my wheelchair i would

00:06:26.640 not last more than 10 minutes before dislocating every joint in my body yikes yeah which recently

00:06:32.340 happened it's so fun uh okay well uh this train accident i love that that's what you're saying

00:06:39.440 that's like the 1800 like that it was the amtrak and fucking amtrak and that's caused that's caused

00:06:46.060 mostly and primarily by a genetic problem the disability yes i i not the train accident thank

00:06:52.020 goodness we're getting off the train accident yeah i was like in the third grade but anyways yeah

00:06:55.600 genetic condition i have several genetic conditions but like the main one i have causes joint dislocations

00:07:01.160 daily and then i have all kinds of other crap that comes with it so yeah sorry to hear that all good

00:07:07.920 i'm not yeah um what about you hi my name is nikki i'm 25 i'm originally from cambodia and i was adopted

00:07:17.060 and brought to northern california and i moved to la two years ago and i'm an exotic dancer if you know

00:07:24.660 what that means yeah um any school college anything going back to you any college at the moment no i

00:07:31.480 wasn't previous uh did you get associates or i didn't get an associate i think i'll qualify for

00:07:36.320 like the certificate thing okay dance all right what about you um my name is riri i'm 19 um i'm

00:07:43.540 currently a pre-law student um i also do wheelchair dancing on the side so it's really fun wait wait

00:07:51.800 your your name is what riri riri r-i-r-e

00:07:58.360 is that your actual birth name absolutely not oh okay all right i was like wait okay

00:08:08.440 dude i was just curious uh age sorry i missed i missed that i'm 19 19 all right uh and you are

00:08:15.000 also in a wheelchair i guess uh what's the backstory there how long you've been in one

00:08:18.520 i've been in a wheelchair for 10 years now i was paralyzed when i was eight from a failed surgery

00:08:23.780 well uh what was the surgery or a spinal fusion okay were you did you was it a genetic thing for the

00:08:32.060 no i had scoliosis so like like a normal people thing uh the doctor just like cut wrong yikes and

00:08:39.840 it was uh that sucks did he pay out the bastards pay out or what uh no not really no that sucks he's

00:08:47.720 not practicing anymore so you know that's good sorry to hear that and uh when just curious you were

00:08:53.640 you said you were 10 i was eight eight okay and were you like experiencing a lot of uh pain due to

00:09:00.100 the scoliosis or not really it was just bad enough to the degree where they would want to i don't

00:09:06.800 actually have like the curvy scoliosis like that i curved forward so it's not really like life

00:09:11.820 threatening or anything but it can cause heart problems so i see and then the doctors made a

00:09:16.300 determination that this would be like the best course of action and then yeah the doctor that made

00:09:20.820 an error in the surgery and then uh so that was at uh eight yeah i was eight um i was re-paralyzed at

00:09:31.320 16 from transverse myelitis which is a really really long way of saying i got mono and then it killed my

00:09:37.440 spinal cord damn well i don't okay good maybe you can back up just briefly for me um so eight years old

00:09:46.100 you have this catastrophic corrective surgery a mistake happens at that point you are paralyzed

00:09:51.800 from the waist down um i was only completely paralyzed in my feet i had some function left

00:09:57.540 in my lower legs it was at um an l4 level um that i was paralyzed from that surgery uh so i could walk

00:10:04.700 with like heavy heavy bracing or like a walker but i i used a wheelchair primarily okay and so then

00:10:12.540 at 16 this uh you get mono right and then um you know that's it isn't that called the kissing disease

00:10:21.380 uh-huh yes anyway so you get mono and uh then that further deteriorates your spinal cord is that yeah

00:10:29.280 i'm not paralyzed at a t10 level which is a lot higher it's about like belly button down ish

00:10:34.740 uh where was the fusion the l4 l4 was where i was paralyzed from they didn't actually complete the

00:10:41.020 fusion because they it medical malpractice but damn yeah that's wild yeah is this i mean so that

00:10:49.240 was like 10 years ago yeah is this um do they still um recommend spinal fusions for people who have

00:10:55.560 like your uh like oh yeah it's both things that happen to me are like very uncommon do not happen

00:11:03.000 um like it's still a lot people get them like every day the and is and there's nothing there's

00:11:11.180 nothing corrective that that they're working on currently that can fix this or no uh spinal cord

00:11:18.740 injuries have like some weird like holistic treatments that people look at but they don't

00:11:24.920 always work i'd maybe some people but nothing yet well ai

00:11:32.360 you know what's crazy i i had a uh i had a back injury and i went to see an orthopedist and he

00:11:41.740 wanted to do spinal fusion l5s1 and i like did some research he's like i went in he just did x-rays he's

00:11:47.980 like yeah we could do spinal fusion and like luckily i went to see some other doctors and they're like well

00:11:53.280 like you do have like a structural issue but i mean something like 50 percent of people who get

00:11:59.480 spinal fusions there's no improvement after a two-year period and oftentimes they can there can

00:12:06.320 be complications with the surgery make the pain worse some people go in for like minor back pain

00:12:11.260 they come out paralyzed so uh sorry to hear about that though that's uh fucked up and anyways um

00:12:18.100 school at all or yeah i'm in school i'm a pre-law student pre-law okay and you're at uh local city

00:12:26.560 college or no i'm online currently online okay all right what about you hi my name's cassie i'm 31

00:12:35.100 i'm a mental health advocate and i live in new york uh currently all right and uh any uh schooling

00:12:44.060 or anything like that um i went to school for psychology all right you got your bachelor's

00:12:50.540 or master's or anything like that i dropped out okay associates or not even okay what about you

00:12:58.620 my name is darkavia i'm 23 years old and i really don't do anything but i babysit

00:13:07.100 that's you don't do anything no are you a neat what's that uh it's like it's a term for not in

00:13:14.500 employment education or training yeah no no you're you're a neat no i'm not a neat so okay because you

00:13:22.920 i just i just do babysitting yeah that's it how often you do babysitting uh like probably like

00:13:27.760 if i'm lucky three times a week three times a week okay yeah all right uh did you go to college at

00:13:34.620 all or no okay i didn't you uh elementary school dropout or high school high school you dropped

00:13:41.400 out of high school no oh you finished high school yeah and then um and you're in la you said you live

00:13:47.180 in la yeah i live in la from la no i'm not i'm originally from chicago chicago yeah sorry about

00:13:53.020 that um respectfully the shy rack sorry yeah yeah chicago sucks yeah you're close kind of right

00:14:02.780 andrew very close yeah yeah all right what about you um i'm melena i'm 22 i'm from la

00:14:10.600 um i'm a personal trainer and a reiki practitioner oh reiki yeah what's that what is reiki it's a type

00:14:20.440 of energy work there's really no scientific evidence behind it it's kind of more of a spiritual belief

00:14:27.580 about energy work okay um yeah this revolves around the various chakra points on a person

00:14:34.020 and you can use it for the purposes of healing for centering for consciousness all of these types

00:14:39.460 of things correct yep you explained it perfectly andrew's a reiki reiki reiki he's a reiki master

00:14:46.420 no way yeah so if you want like a tutorial like he charges he's like really hot like high up there on

00:14:51.380 the totem pole though so like he charges like 300 an hour like but it's worth it yeah like i went to

00:14:57.900 school for it for a year and then got certified with the reiki master certificate are you a reiki

00:15:03.200 have you opened your third eye yet um i mean when i meditate i think it's pretty open you know

00:15:10.900 i don't think that i'm always in that state but that's the goal for sure okay all right uh

00:15:21.240 and uh just the reiki like any college or just the reiki um over the summer i just finished at

00:15:27.800 national academy of sports medicine to get my personal training certificate all right cool what

00:15:33.100 about you uh my name is jay hannah i'm 33 years old and i live in hollywood california los angeles

00:15:40.760 all right what do you do for work i work for instacart full-time i buy groceries for people

00:15:45.900 all right uh and any college i went to college uh back home i went to the university of north

00:15:52.680 dakota which that's where i grew up i grew up in a very small town in middle of nowhere

00:15:57.720 okay all right uh did you get your bachelor's degree or yeah i have a bachelor's in journalism

00:16:04.760 in journalism all right very cool what about you um my name is luna and i'm 26 years old um currently

00:16:14.920 i am an exotic dancer and i make personal clothing i have my own like little company

00:16:21.660 you said 23 right 26 oh 26 excuse me sorry and uh what's the nature of the you said you do

00:16:29.460 only fans too or no just exotic dancing just the dancing okay any college or anything like that

00:16:35.280 i did go to college for a little bit for psychology but i am actually planning on starting a pharmacy

00:16:41.400 so i can uh become uh not a pharmacist but i eventually i want to become a psychiatrist

00:16:46.840 all right cool all right uh andrew would you like to introduce yourself

00:16:52.200 yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's a popular entertainment channel on

00:16:59.200 youtube i'm a political analyst a political satirist and i engage in conversations and various debates and

00:17:06.140 things like this all over the world and i appreciate you girls coming on to the panel tonight

00:17:10.340 and engaging in this conversation with us all right welcome everybody so we're going to go around the

00:17:15.340 table once more what's your current relationship status if you're single how long have you been

00:17:19.800 single and longest relationship starting with you go ahead i am currently in a two-year long

00:17:26.740 relationship um we're polyamorous but not practicing polyamory right now and my longest relationship was

00:17:35.400 nine years longest relationship nine years uh from what age to what age was the nine-year relationship

00:17:42.040 oh goodness i was 17 when we started dating we were high school sweethearts and then

00:17:47.300 oh gosh that would have put me at 25 25 uh so you pretty much got right into this current relationship

00:17:58.060 immediately then yeah it was after the breakup yeah there was crossover oh can i i have a couple

00:18:05.940 questions can i just have you scoot your mic this way a little bit uh so a crossover not cheating

00:18:12.220 no not cheating okay so i'm assuming the nine nine-year relationship was polyamorous no actually

00:18:19.280 it was not it was monogamous it was monogamous okay but there was when you say there was crossover

00:18:24.100 can you explain yeah uh the nine-year relationship was on and off i don't feel like that's always

00:18:29.480 necessary for the story but for this i guess it is but i met my current partner during a break which

00:18:36.340 i thought it was going to be the last of it and um her and i reconnected and we tried a last hurrah if

00:18:47.620 you will and then yeah it just didn't end up working out she was kind of on the fence if you

00:18:54.900 will about polyamory and decided that it just wasn't for her it was very respectful and i wish her the

00:19:00.160 best and your orientation you're bisexual correct yes pan sure what do you prefer what do you prefer

00:19:08.880 anything i just i i don't i don't date cishet men huh your nine-year relationship was with who

00:19:17.520 yeah i don't need name but like was it with a woman it's with a woman a woman and the current

00:19:22.420 relationship is with a woman correct um we're just not going to talk about that one it's been asked that

00:19:27.540 i don't mention about my current relationship oh i mean out of respect i don't need details but

00:19:31.940 it's is it a woman i'm assuming it's a woman i think you said it was a woman sure is it trans

00:19:39.460 trans woman you're not picking up what i'm putting down so anyways i'm just not going to talk about

00:19:43.760 my i'm not sorry i'm a man that's okay i'm a cishet man and i use words that's okay i don't read

00:19:48.760 subtext my there's just like a out of the respect of my partner i'm not going to discuss

00:19:53.160 their correct gender gender yeah sex correct okay indeed well i appreciate you respecting

00:19:59.780 the wishes of your partner uh why don't you date cishet men uh because i'm not attracted to people

00:20:06.040 who are born with male privilege that is an interesting one you're not attracted to people

00:20:11.500 who are born i thought you were going to say penis but uh you're not attracted to men who are born

00:20:16.280 with male privilege correct yeah what when you say i have a couple questions here when you say

00:20:23.000 they were born with male privilege wouldn't this include transgender women typically yes i've i've

00:20:28.600 never met a transgender woman that i was personally attracted to could it happen i'm sure but like

00:20:33.220 it just has not happened for me but you said you would date somebody who's trans

00:20:37.440 yeah i mean it would have to be the miracle unicorn of all trans women but you would have to

00:20:43.500 preclude them because they were born with male privilege yeah typically i'm not attracted to

00:20:47.720 trans women due to the being born with male privilege thing despite it's a mindset despite

00:20:52.560 their current lack of male privilege being transgender a transgender woman i respect them

00:20:57.480 and i'm friends with transgender women i just don't think that is for me in a relationship

00:21:01.220 uh curious why what is it about male privilege that wants in terms of physical or sexual or romantic

00:21:09.700 attraction that would preclude you from dating somebody who was born with male privilege

00:21:14.560 people who are born without male privilege actually understand what it's like to live life as a woman

00:21:23.580 whether they are a woman or not so that makes sense brian um for instance i'm not attracted to

00:21:29.480 people who have parking lot privileges i mean i have a handicap placard so i guess we wouldn't get

00:21:33.700 along i guess not i don't like people have parking lot privileges i think that that's gross

00:21:38.760 and i'm just not attractive to it it's that's all for you man yeah uh that's interesting so um

00:21:46.340 can you elaborate a bit more i guess i'm not being attracted to male privilege yeah yeah you're in the

00:21:53.420 you're in the middle of explaining it so i was more curious it just comes down to like how i explain

00:21:59.940 my sexuality that's like the easiest wittiest nod that i give to like why or what my

00:22:06.140 label is i guess is there any intersection when it comes to like do you do you give uh

00:22:12.620 i suppose like let's say there's an intersection of like they're uh like they're black they're black

00:22:21.020 male so they do they were born with male privilege but there's an intersection whereby

00:22:26.760 they do um you're saying because they have another minority basis so therefore am i attracted to that

00:22:32.580 like there's a there's a vertical of like societal disadvantage so like in my personal history i have

00:22:39.480 primarily been around hispanic asian of sorts and white people i can't answer on you've never met a

00:22:47.020 black person i didn't say i've never met them i just said that's primarily what i was like surrounded

00:22:50.900 by when i was like actively dating or looking okay um i don't think that it's going to change anything

00:22:57.200 for me personally but i also don't think that like the world needs me in the fish sea you know what i'm

00:23:02.260 saying like there's plenty of fish in the sea people say that all the time sure i don't need

00:23:04.940 to be an option now is the ultimate thing here the privilege component though like somebody who's

00:23:08.740 born with like and it just comes down to like how people behave whenever they were born into male

00:23:13.540 privilege when you're raised a certain way would you date a white woman like sure what does that have

00:23:18.440 to do with male privilege have you dated white women before no you've never you've never dated a

00:23:24.240 white woman no asian woman no why does that why is that relevant well my follow-up question will make

00:23:33.300 it abundantly clear why it's relevant for sure but uh so you you have dated women yes okay uh asian

00:23:43.460 woman should i because i said that that's what i was surrounded by i'm just asking you a question

00:23:47.460 it's not a big deal a black woman or latina woman or what are we talking here uh primarily latina

00:23:52.860 just because that's like what was in my area and i just moved so i've been just to be clear i'd like

00:23:56.820 to just make a an establishment on the hierarchy of like where you like see privilege so your position

00:24:02.400 is is that latina women have less privilege than black men no i never said that i mean you said you

00:24:08.100 disqualify people on the basis of their privilege but if you would not date a black man i'm assuming

00:24:14.780 your position would be that black men have more privilege than latina women no i think that's just

00:24:20.080 you twisting it because i'm not twisting anything you said you said i don't date people with male

00:24:25.760 privilege when they are born right but that does that have to do with the color of their skin though

00:24:29.400 right but we were like kind of looking it wasn't oh just male privilege so male privilege is like an

00:24:35.300 across the board exclusionary thing that's like the easiest way to categorize who i am not attracted

00:24:40.760 to is people who are born with male privilege so yeah but like if they transition do they adopt male

00:24:46.620 privilege no when you're born into a female body you have to live without male privilege when you

00:24:54.360 adopt like that's not what i'm referring to of what i'm not attracted to like yes you gain male

00:24:58.840 privilege especially if you decide to transition and you're passing and all of those things but i do

00:25:03.940 think that you have a innate understanding for what it's like to not have it okay uh and is it

00:25:11.740 specifically male privilege or is it the privilege no male privilege only male privilege so even if

00:25:19.560 we were to do some comparison between like a given male and a given female let's say that female has

00:25:27.000 more privilege in like some verticals compared to the male like would you date a woman who's more

00:25:32.300 privileged than a given man sure i think it's like if you're born into a certain kind of privilege

00:25:38.720 regardless of what it is depending on how much that shapes you and like the basis of your

00:25:44.060 understanding of the world if you behave like an overly privileged individual i'm probably not

00:25:50.160 going to be attracted yeah so let's i would like to explore that so like you're saying essentially

00:25:53.800 uh it's specific to the maleness of the privilege for example like you would not consider like a latina

00:26:01.480 woman who's like her parents were billionaires and she's totally able-bodied and she has no like

00:26:06.720 physical limitations you would consider her to be less privileged than like uh like a black

00:26:12.200 minority male born in like compton to like impoverished parents i don't think that that is

00:26:19.020 you can't equate those two like i i would have to be in that personal experience which one's more

00:26:24.000 privileged in totality i don't think you gave me enough information to decide who's more privileged

00:26:29.940 specifically because you're giving me like these little notes of what they are and who they are and

00:26:35.440 right so just to be clear i'll like this able-bodied woman versus the black person okay no let me let me

00:26:40.580 i'll give you hold on i'll give you the two criteria i'll give you the two criteria again

00:26:44.020 who's more privileged latina woman born to billionaire parents who's able-bodied that is the answer it is

00:26:50.460 the obvious answer versus black man yes born in uh impoverished compton i completely get what you are

00:26:59.200 coming at i i understand so who has more privilege she does okay overall so then would you be willing

00:27:05.840 to date the black male who has less privilege than male no

00:27:09.120 okay i think i understand your position i understand your position it's just interesting i haven't heard

00:27:17.980 it before so because that's because that's still male privilege right even if he were like he was less

00:27:22.380 privileged than the other guy he would still have been born into a privileged position just based on

00:27:28.860 societal standings yeah so if you were in a culture then which was matriarchal would you only date men

00:27:35.760 exclusively what the fuck don't read that go ahead you can answer the question go ahead would i only date

00:27:45.120 yeah if you were born into a matriarchal society where women were the privileged ones they were the

00:27:52.000 ones who basically you know they had a monopoly on force and all these different things if that were

00:27:58.100 the case then would you only exclusively date men i don't think that i'm the right person to answer

00:28:03.200 that only because like my reason for not being attracted to male privilege comes down to like

00:28:08.180 abuse what do you mean from my past oh okay yeah well i understand that so like in a hypothetical

00:28:14.860 scenario let's say your situation is we end up the same exact way we are right now it's just that

00:28:20.100 male and female are switched sure like that feels like a strange hypothetical but i guess

00:28:25.560 it has nothing to do with appendages if that's what you're asking me no wait so the the idea of what

00:28:32.040 you're attracted to um comes down you think to trauma not by uh not by any any sort of other

00:28:39.920 external factor i mean i i have no idea what would have happened if i didn't go through the trauma

00:28:48.100 that i went through because i was so young so it's hard to say how it is for me personally i don't

00:28:52.940 think that trauma is the only reason why people are not attracted to males however for me i don't think

00:28:59.980 that i would ever be able to date someone who was born that way because of my trauma if that makes

00:29:05.200 sense like i don't think that that's true for a lot of people but for me personally it's like a big

00:29:10.020 stop up mentally well that seems different different than the privilege thing but yeah and

00:29:14.660 so so then i guess my final wrap up on this because we got stuck on it right away right even just in the

00:29:20.600 intros um yeah but but just to kind of finish the exploration here so you wouldn't advocate this as

00:29:26.280 being prescriptive for other women that hey you shouldn't date men based along the lines that they're

00:29:31.900 privileged right no not at all okay all right i'm gonna let just two chats come through and then

00:29:37.020 we'll get back to the relationship status ogle donated 200 does chair one have eds if so this is

00:29:46.020 the second person with ala's dan loss syndrome that's been on the show in as many weeks yeah we

00:29:51.880 had someone with eds uh like a week ago you have eds i do yeah uh metro matt thank you so much for

00:29:59.540 that was metro or no that was ogle i apologize that's metro matt's about to come in ogle thank

00:30:03.640 you so much for the uh tts man appreciate it uh there's some roast coming through i'll let this

00:30:08.160 one go through then we'll continue on metro matt donated two hundred dollars brian it is nice to

00:30:14.360 see you supporting make a wish with tonight's panel chair five hit my line andrew can't wait to

00:30:21.360 see the roast of the partner lady yeah you know discord fam hey you know make a wish did actually

00:30:27.380 reach out and i'm glad that we were able to coordinate to get you two on so uh yeah thank

00:30:32.580 you guys it wasn't my wish what's going on what the hell well andrew you're not where's all this

00:30:39.460 privilege where's all this privilege uh you know actually funny story i don't think i've ever shared

00:30:47.180 this i had a an illness when i was a child and uh i got to uh it wasn't make a wish but i did go

00:30:56.380 i'm gonna get this is gonna be like get memed in the chat and for the crucible i did go to

00:31:04.060 neverland ranch didn't have anything to do whoa what wait what i got to go to neverland ranch back

00:31:09.420 in the day yeah i've never shared i don't think i've shared that i went to neverland ranch brian is

00:31:15.380 this did you have burritos for lunch brian uh no but there's like a bunch of free candy and stuff and

00:31:21.180 uh haha but uh yeah no i i don't think i was really into mexican food when i was like 10 or

00:31:27.620 whatever was it uh was it bedtime when the big hand touched the little hand brian and then lean

00:31:31.260 ranch um no you know what i did i did get to meet michael and he was super cool he was honestly bro

00:31:41.140 i don't believe that shit andrew i don't believe it i think it's all bullshit bruv

00:31:47.900 i'm 70 sure though i'm leaving a little room for like he did that shit

00:31:55.460 but yeah i did get to meet michael jackson

00:32:01.980 oh we can't hear you andrew i said well i was just saying um nice yeah man so i kind of got like

00:32:11.060 half half a make-a-wish yeah so that was cool

00:32:14.900 you might have you might have i just kept that one to yourself maybe

00:32:24.700 bro it's not bro i don't care he did something nice for me man like i got to there was like the

00:32:32.660 the animals the petting zoo we got to see there was a theater it was a bit there was like a roller

00:32:38.400 coaster a shitty roller coaster it's very nice it's very uh above the board where are you being for real

00:32:44.980 like 100 percent what why what is that is it an island no it's not yeah no it's michael jackson

00:32:54.780 yeah yeah his house was on jackson island this was this is off the uh coast of mississippi

00:33:01.840 jackson island it's actually uh it's not far it's like just it's like an hour it's an hour north okay

00:33:07.860 anyways uh relationship or really quick fine finalizing on your relationship uh the nine-year

00:33:13.460 relationship who finally broke up with who um it was mutual ish but she decided that she didn't want

00:33:19.480 to be in a polyamorous relationship so mutual ish okay gotcha and uh all right uh what about you um

00:33:26.340 i'm single and my longest relationship is two years because my exes are crazy so if it was up to me and

00:33:33.760 they weren't crazy i would have way longer relationships how long you've been single for

00:33:37.180 like i don't know maybe like a year or more like nothing really serious since those last two crazy

00:33:44.320 relationships okay like i'm really traumatized last two relationships yeah it was two two two year

00:33:50.100 relationships both of them i had to leave them like escape escape yeah like i had to come up with an

00:33:55.920 escape plan and my work helped me and my ex's sister helped me come up with the did you meet them at the

00:34:00.880 club no this is before i was working as a dancer i met this guy at petco petco i used to work at petco

00:34:07.340 i see okay yeah uh and you've had two toxic relationships or more than i mean two like

00:34:13.160 really bad ones and then like you've had toxic situations also yeah but now i kind of learned

00:34:18.760 to stay i know how to stay away from those after being in the what's the what's the like common theme

00:34:24.180 though with um maybe uh well mental illness obviously like they're the guys that i was with

00:34:30.760 were very mentally unstable and i think you know i am too so maybe that's why they're attracted to me

00:34:35.140 or maybe i'm attracted to them but yeah what's uh what's your diagnosis oh i have uh well i was

00:34:41.220 diagnosed with depression and anxiety i probably have adhd really bad um and you like uh and i could be

00:34:48.120 like yeah i could be like i what do you mean could be because i never i haven't gotten diagnosed for

00:34:52.940 that but i definitely get very like moody i get very angry okay yeah good times good times uh and

00:35:00.880 but you've been single for one year you said any anything in that past year situationship yeah there

00:35:06.060 was a situationship with this guy and he reminded me of my other exes because he would hit his dog he

00:35:12.220 was abusive and i just couldn't be around that so i left him and yikes yeah his dog that's okay and uh

00:35:19.640 are there any guys in the picture right now um i'm talking to multiple guys because i can't you

00:35:26.160 got the roster yeah well i mean not like because i don't know i kind of just got to keep my options

00:35:30.340 open because yeah anytime i try i tried getting with this guy and he literally like blocked me like

00:35:36.900 for no reason out of nowhere and i don't understand why and then he came back and then

00:35:40.900 and then he blocked me again so i'm just like i just feel like i shouldn't even try

00:35:48.260 yeah have you ever slashed a guy's tire tires plural this this girl um with this guy that i was

00:35:54.120 talking to i fucked up her car i didn't do it i had the homies do it but they did it so

00:35:59.980 i mean that's you doing it right yeah yeah it was me enabling it yeah the homies did it who what is

00:36:05.920 the homies it's a few of my my guy friends i'm not gonna say who but my few of my guy friends are

00:36:11.160 you in a street gang no i'm not but i know people who are they were they in a street gang um i have

00:36:18.040 some connects but who do you affiliate with i'm not i'm not gonna i don't affiliate with anyone like

00:36:23.620 i'm just you know i'm just in my own is it the more crypt more blood no i'm trying to get on

00:36:29.120 more serenio like which way are we going here i'm not with any like i just kind of you know

00:36:34.100 people just help me when i need a rascal i don't know okay i don't know uh anyways um they just get

00:36:42.860 the jobs in you know what i mean so okay yeah uh and so you said you have a roster currently uh how

00:36:50.620 many guys are on the roster um pretty much one because everyone else is in how is that exactly that's

00:36:57.760 why because the one guy who i was trying to talk to like he ended up blocking me so it's like he

00:37:01.740 wasn't so it's like not really like i'm just talking to multiple guys but i'm only having

00:37:05.380 sex with one guy but i'm talking to multiple guys are you going on dates with the other guys

00:37:08.820 um i went on one date with a guy but i haven't been on since and i'm just don't even i just don't even

00:37:16.100 really want to do all that you know unless somebody's really serious i don't really how long have

00:37:19.660 the guy who you are having sex with how long have you been seeing him a year oh but you've been

00:37:24.680 single for a year so it's basically like a situation ship because we're not labeled or

00:37:29.840 anything we're not together like we literally just fuck each other do you want a label i mean

00:37:33.920 i did it's in the beginning but after seeing how he's been throughout the whole year like

00:37:39.040 he's very secretive which i don't like so he's also a dad so you know i get it it's hard to

00:37:44.240 be with somebody like that do you have a type of guy yeah i like obviously i like older guys

00:37:50.160 you know it doesn't matter what their ethnicity is i just like older guys older guys like

00:37:54.120 jared like social security like no no not that old like my security no my exes were 40 oh okay

00:38:00.800 yeah okay that's like the oldest oh no you should like i feel like even like if you're toxic once you

00:38:07.500 probably get into your 60s or 70s like you can't like can you even be toxic at that you know what i

00:38:14.480 mean i mean like i feel like you don't have energy i hope they wouldn't have energy yeah like you're

00:38:19.440 you can still be toxic but i feel like it's the volume knob's just been turned down not that i've

00:38:24.300 dated like 70 year old like gilts or whatever but but i could be more toxic okay yeah all right uh

00:38:31.080 what about you relationship status i'm single um i've been single for like eight months there was

00:38:37.120 like a situation ship uh my longest relationship was six or seven months wait uh okay seven months

00:38:47.380 was that the one that ended eight months ago no that was that ended about a year and a half ago

00:38:53.340 okay uh the who broke up with who in that relationship uh she broke up with me okay and

00:39:00.760 then most recently the eight months ago who broke up with who uh there wasn't really like a breakup

00:39:05.800 i kind of just ghosted them because it was getting too serious

00:39:09.120 okay it wait you ghosted them because it was getting too serious yes how long were you seeing

00:39:16.000 them like three months okay and you don't you don't want serious right now absolutely not no

00:39:23.600 okay and orientation you're bisexual or i'm a lesbian i'm sure there's like a guy out there that i would

00:39:29.760 be with but i just don't want to open myself up to that not in like a male privileges i yeah

00:39:35.800 i don't fair enough like brad pitt would you smash or no johnny debt no wait hold on uh

00:39:43.340 who's like a younger i don't know what's what's that guy from dune what's his name not timothy

00:39:49.940 chalamet no no not timothy chalamet nobody likes him uh ryan gosling

00:39:55.580 getting close like a little warmer okay uh troy verner wait what's his fucking name that is

00:40:06.040 mini me from austin powers rest in peace like back in the day like if he was still kicking

00:40:12.620 he might be too young troy is that his name troy verner like leonardo dicaprio without like all

00:40:18.420 the weird things about him like young leo or currently leo young young like titanic yes leo

00:40:27.360 yes okay what about like uh gilbert grape leo i feel like have you seen that movie yeah like so

00:40:36.300 he's like not just like not like leo's character in what's eating gilbert grape like he was um

00:40:42.520 r word some yeah he was r worded i feel like that would just be wrong i didn't know you wouldn't

00:40:48.900 date somebody who's should i just say it retarded i know i said i get the past because i'm i feel like

00:40:59.340 at the cognitive level he was at it probably wouldn't have been that's fair that's fair for me

00:41:05.340 to do that that might actually be yeah i feel like that would be wrong but you want okay like leo

00:41:10.960 titanic yeah okay i just have unrealistic expectations for men i think but without the

00:41:16.660 like he only dates women below 25 yeah yeah you think that's like kind of weird for him to be doing

00:41:22.960 that extremely weird he's like old now right he's in like 50 yo chat how old's leo too old

00:41:30.120 leonardo age 50 he he just turned 50 november 11th that's like objectively much too old for me

00:41:38.200 okay and then lady uh the panels panelists uh what really quick on the leo thing what do you guys

00:41:44.480 think so he basically he hasn't dated a woman over 25 essentially he tends to date women like in their

00:41:50.940 early 20s and he like conveniently you know maybe the relate it's just um circumstance the relationships

00:41:57.640 and typically before or maximum at 25 i think it's okay i think he should call me

00:42:04.600 all right cassie leo slides into the dms you gonna smash or what no he's not my type leo's not your

00:42:15.300 type okay we'll get into that in a bit but um so okay in any ways uh you date women uh but if uh

00:42:23.320 leonardo young leo without the age gap stuff right you're in the hypothetical situation that he like

00:42:29.680 called me up now i wouldn't say no but it would still be weird you would like go on a date with

00:42:35.600 him a hundred percent he's like you'd want to talk just like for the you know okay cool cool um for the

00:42:42.480 and then uh cassie what about you um i'm single and i've never been in a relationship um i tried in

00:42:52.020 my mid-20s um after my diagnosis um now i know it's a misdiagnosis but that kind of like uh scared

00:43:01.260 guys away my mental health scared guys away what what was the diagnosis um when i was 51 50 during that

00:43:10.320 time i had an mri done and they found that i had an underdeveloped amygdala and they diagnosed me

00:43:17.320 with aspd which is technically psychopathy even though i don't fit the diagnostic criteria for

00:43:24.460 psychopathy so in my 20s i was diagnosed when i was 25 i think 2018 and when i was trying to date i

00:43:31.920 like disclosed to them my mental health and they wouldn't even want to anything to do with

00:43:40.300 me and i tried tinder and all that stuff how does uh so this diagnosis the uh i have alexithymia um

00:43:46.900 what what's that um so i recently got um uh i'm seeing a therapist and a psychiatrist now

00:43:54.380 and they said that um i have a condition called alexithymia not aspd because i don't fit the

00:43:59.680 diagnostic criteria and uh how does this uh i guess manifest itself in terms of um so uh i have

00:44:11.460 an underdeveloped amygdala like i don't know if i could say this word um but like i'm 31 i've never

00:44:17.820 had an orgasm um and i can't really like feel positive emotions because of my brain but you said

00:44:25.720 uh like the psychopathy component like how would that manifest itself like you don't have

00:44:30.220 uh like empathy or what is that what like i'm not saying that's the case but what does it mean

00:44:36.080 i have cognitive empathy i'm i'm actually overtly empathetic especially with the work that i do

00:44:41.740 because i do homeless outreach in new york um but like for example my co-workers like at the end of

00:44:47.820 the day they drink a lot to deal with what they do and like they're like why doesn't you want to go

00:44:53.620 into a shelter and like i'm able to like you know uh do more as far as like my job because it doesn't

00:45:00.340 really affect me as much as it affects my co-workers okay um so there's you said there's aspd you said

00:45:07.920 also autism is that correct yes um so this year i saw a very good um sorry very good psychiatrist and

00:45:16.360 she diagnosed me with alexithymia 10 of the um population has alexithymia but it's mostly men

00:45:22.740 and a lot of women that are diagnosed with aspd actually have alexithymia but it presents

00:45:29.460 differently in women than it does in men okay and would this be a good classification for alexithymia

00:45:35.400 it's also referred to as emotional blindness it's a neuropsychological phenomenon characterized by

00:45:41.460 significant challenges in recognizing expressing sourcing and describing one's emotions yes yes i don't

00:45:48.460 know my internal emotional state like sometimes i like my sister she'll be like you're mad you're

00:45:55.260 angry just admit it and i'm like no i'm not but then like my hand is in a fist and i'm just like

00:46:00.800 you know i don't feel the anger but like uh my body like my my palms are sweaty my heart is racing out of

00:46:08.660 my chest so like feelings present physically for me not emotionally and i i tried i got close to dating

00:46:15.460 someone um but he felt he fell in love with me and um he wanted to know if i loved him because he's

00:46:22.840 christian and um i'm somewhat christian and he wanted to engage in coitus like with someone that loved him

00:46:30.980 and i told him that i will you know treat him lovingly and i will respect him and i will do whatever

00:46:37.420 he wants but like i don't even love myself like i don't know what love is and um so he decided not to

00:46:47.100 have sex with me are you um are you also aware as i'm kind of digging into this um there's no

00:46:55.380 scientific consensus on the classifications of personality trait because lexithymia is so common

00:47:00.560 in the populace that they don't even know how to classify it or if they can't even be actually

00:47:05.180 classified as a mental illness because there's just many people who uh have trouble associating

00:47:11.500 emotions when it comes to uh other people are you aware of that at all yeah yeah it's 10 so there's

00:47:18.840 normative male lexithymia and then um there's just alexithymia um most men are alexithymic to some

00:47:26.460 degree but um like and so are most most women to some degree yeah yeah yeah so um it just like

00:47:34.760 it makes doing the job that i do easier like i've uh because like i get so this is the equivalent

00:47:40.460 of diagnosing somebody with being able to breathe right it's like most people can breathe right yeah

00:47:46.120 is that is i mean is that really a classification for a mental disorder doesn't seem like it is

00:47:52.020 necessarily i don't like to think of myself as disordered i i don't like to think of myself as

00:47:58.300 uh disabled by this so i i try to do the best with what i got got you okay uh i guess a couple

00:48:06.660 questions here when it comes to the diagnoses that you do have does this ever manifest itself

00:48:11.720 in like outward violence physical violence uh when i was a child but i was gonna ask if it was like

00:48:18.140 childhood were there were there uh didn't mean to cut you off if you want to continue or what were

00:48:25.560 you gonna say uh well so there was uh like um when you were in elementary school were there violent

00:48:31.640 physically violent um uh incidences or yeah so when i was in i went to um i went to like a specialized

00:48:41.000 school that you had to take a test to get into um so uh there was uh i got bullied and then like i would

00:48:49.940 basically like get my you know revenge but like i wouldn't bully them back but i don't do things like

00:48:59.440 that anymore though because okay yeah and i mean are when it comes because you say like the uh you

00:49:07.940 disclosed to potential like men that you would date that you you have these disorders or whatever

00:49:13.580 or sorry not disorders uh that you have aspd or psychopathy you you no no it's alexithymia oh

00:49:19.960 excuse sorry sorry my mistake then i was misdiagnosed um like how if you were in a relationship like what

00:49:26.420 how would it negatively impact the relationship if you can be brief um well for him he it it didn't

00:49:33.820 negatively impact him at all but he could tell like after a while that i was i was masking like i was

00:49:41.440 kind of like pretending and um then it started to affect him when he realized that i was just being

00:49:50.100 a people pleaser i wasn't really being genuine but that wasn't because i didn't want to be genuine

00:49:54.820 it's because i was trying to be normal yeah so um when it comes to relationship history you've never

00:50:01.940 had a boyfriend um so you and you consider yourself what um i i used to consider myself a fem cell but

00:50:11.540 i'm no longer a fem cell because i'm around like a lot of guys and uh some of them are interested in

00:50:18.340 me it's just they i don't want to be with someone that's more attractive than me oh wait so hold on

00:50:25.720 so you're no longer a fem cell i can't identify as a fem cell because i have it just like a week ago

00:50:31.780 you identify as a yeah this guy this guy tried to have sex with you yeah oh okay why yeah what is a

00:50:39.460 fem cell uh well i mean i guess there's different definitions uh do you know what a uh incel wait

00:50:45.660 there's a very easy uh way to describe this phenomenon have you ever heard of a unicorn

00:50:50.440 yeah have you ever heard of a unicorn yeah i don't really know what that means either though

00:50:56.600 honestly most women are voluntarily celibate is that just gay no a unicorn no an actual unicorn oh

00:51:04.420 yeah i thought this was like another weird fucking yeah yeah no i mean i mean an actual unicorn

00:51:10.420 people are using all these words yes yes well and you know how they're like mythological and don't

00:51:15.400 exist yeah that's a fem cell yeah the majority of women that identifies fem cells um are women that

00:51:22.560 can't get access to a relationship and they tie a relationship to sex um well let me just jump in

00:51:29.780 really quick so okay just to break it down here okay so incel it's a uh there's a specific term for

00:51:36.200 when you combine words like this what's the term an amalgamation a compound word no not neither

00:51:43.620 there's a specific term for it jet lagged anybody everyone's failing to pop quiz i don't know what is

00:51:50.800 it oh by the way really quick announcement guys um there is a goal for super chats if we get 50 10

00:51:57.020 10 plus super chats one of uh one of the girls has to read a full page of a harry potter chamber of

00:52:04.940 secrets um so whoever's like yep so uh yeah and then next week i'll have uh green eggs and ham and then

00:52:14.840 cat in the hat too so guys get hit the hit the goal so we can have a girl read a full page of a harry

00:52:21.300 potter book okay so uh okay let's see here um oh okay so incel is short for involuntarily celibate

00:52:32.900 got it yeah so basically a guy like despite his desire to have sex like and despite efforts reasonable

00:52:40.820 efforts to get sex he just like he can't do it either he's really uh he's either physically

00:52:45.860 really physically unattractive or maybe it's his personality or his circumstances like he tries

00:52:51.380 tries tries like cannot get for the life of him a woman to sleep with him um probably some of these

00:52:57.920 guys describe themselves as incels but they don't actually like try in any case just they try to get

00:53:04.820 sex they can't a fem cell a fem cell my understanding of it although the fem cells have

00:53:12.740 different uh definition is a female involuntary involuntary oh my god i can't say this involuntarily

00:53:20.780 celibate okay which uh and originally when you reached out you did describe yourself not just as

00:53:27.140 a fem cell but as a female involuntarily celibate yes so after i oh go ahead so after i came out like

00:53:36.100 about my like stuff um came out of the closet about being a neurodivergent person yeah like i've had

00:53:44.340 like a lot of men uh say that they want to be my boyfriend so i can't i can no longer identify as a

00:53:53.680 fem cell well that that is kind of precisely my understanding of the issue when it comes to women

00:53:59.260 who claim to be or consider themselves to be may i say something sure um so the women that i talk to

00:54:08.220 like they are like really really crying over this um they feel like they can't get access to sex with

00:54:16.660 men that they are attracted to they can get access to sex with men that they are not attracted to

00:54:21.800 but they can't get access to sex with men that they are attracted to and that's their like if

00:54:27.280 they can't excuse my language if they can't fuck chad they don't want to fuck anyone at all so these

00:54:32.500 are women that like for like years have gone without sex and they feel like it's not a choice because

00:54:38.900 they cannot sleep with a man that they are attracted to they only get that would be a false cell yeah

00:54:43.880 be voluntarily celibate yeah that would be the opposite voluntarily celibate if you have options

00:54:49.420 yeah you just decide well i don't like any of those options it's like saying that a person doesn't

00:54:54.760 like food because he doesn't like the type of food you give them yeah i've told them that they have

00:54:59.100 options and like um discord and they will like tell me shut the fuck up you don't know what you're

00:55:05.200 talking about you don't you're like your belly doesn't hang over your coochie and it's like well

00:55:10.620 like these are women that are yeah these are women that sometimes they are um they're big beautiful

00:55:19.680 women or they are not conventionally attractive and i don't identify as conventionally attractive

00:55:27.480 either but um i think the majority of them they they internalize the rejection from men that they want

00:55:35.040 and they are they get the ick from getting um like attention from men that they don't want like

00:55:41.540 it it makes them like angry

00:55:43.700 uh damien i'm gonna have you pull something up you're gonna open the dropbox i think it's in the

00:55:51.720 drop yeah it is okay get the dropbox going or sorry not dropbox discord you're gonna go down to

00:55:58.640 the media folder and then it's the third one down from the top and then you're gonna load that up

00:56:04.500 like full full screen it okay do you have it

00:56:09.000 third one down it's the like the cartoon drawing you have it yeah and then just like open in browser

00:56:20.740 and then show us that so i mean this is essentially what the fem cell is

00:56:24.500 is that fair is that fair characterization of what a fem cell is the majority of them don't look like

00:56:38.340 that but like the dynamics with like here's all these potential suitors that are like hi i'm here

00:56:44.840 i'll have sex with you yeah and they're like no yeah and discord some of the girls said that they don't

00:56:50.500 date interracially or they don't date guys that are you know shorter than them or like they don't

00:56:55.900 date guys that are whatever and so for them they don't feel like it's a choice because they can't

00:57:02.800 get with the men that they want to get with you're no longer a fem cell i i would so because

00:57:09.380 so i i turned down a guy because he's just yeah i can't be a fem cell i'm sorry if i cut you off

00:57:16.960 early but i can't be a fem cell anymore so it's kind of just being picky but i mean even before

00:57:22.500 like having standards you weren't having standards would probably be a better yeah so or just a type

00:57:28.540 so like basically the definition that you use essentially would apply to like almost all women

00:57:34.560 because i feel like all women like complain about like oh here's the guy who will like fuck me but

00:57:39.760 won't give me a relationship well these women are what you would what most people would consider

00:57:44.440 below average and attractiveness so they don't yeah even even like attractive women

00:57:50.280 yeah can't always get like the relationship with the guy they want okay then yeah yeah yeah but in

00:57:56.040 any case like the whole fem cell thing i just i think it's uh i mean using the definition like that's

00:58:02.120 it's i don't know if it's modern daily or just like a totally shifting the goalpost kind of but

00:58:06.940 basically cell the term cell has to do with celibacy so it strictly has to do with sex so like this idea

00:58:13.820 that you're a femme cell and you can't get the relationship you want while you're using the just

00:58:17.680 the incorrect wording cell has to do with celibacy if like pretty much any woman even if she's like

00:58:25.060 well below uh her like if her looks are really below average she can still get sex incredibly easy

00:58:33.240 it's uh it's called a category mistake or a category error fallacy i tried to tell them that

00:58:39.720 like on you know the various sites and they will curse me out and they will tell me well it's easy

00:58:46.220 for you to say and i'm like what are you talking about but i understand what what they're saying

00:58:51.560 because these women they want men that they think are what you know they deserve and i'm like okay well

00:59:01.800 because i used to be i used to be 230 pounds and i lost a lot of weight from from my health

00:59:07.620 and um i did see a difference in what people like me and what people liked me when i was bigger

00:59:15.740 and sometimes i say well you know you have to lose weight for you don't lose weight to try to find a

00:59:22.120 man and they're like well a guy has to love me how i am which is true but if you don't love you how you

00:59:29.680 are then like how can a guy love you how you are and i try to you know tell them like it starts with

00:59:35.380 loving yourself and they'll tell me to go myself right okay um and you went on like soft white

00:59:43.020 underbelly correct yeah and then you went on like some other youtube channel and they like interviewed

00:59:48.180 you my and it got thousands of hundreds of thousands of views yeah my cousin um so i'm i don't even have

00:59:55.240 an instagram my cousin um she's been trying to get me clout from a mri and a psyche valve and i'm

01:00:02.180 surprised that that could even get anybody clout honestly yeah okay the hell are you talking about

01:00:12.900 i don't know um i feel like you can get clout from anything nowadays so from anything nowadays but so

01:00:19.680 okay just just to wrap this up here so you used to identify as fem cell but then you went on these

01:00:24.100 shows yeah after being on these shows and talking about your difficulties and struggles when it comes

01:00:29.620 to dating i got a lot of emails from dudes you were inundated with contact from men yeah and they

01:00:35.120 were basically making themselves available for like a sexual encounter yeah okay so like what i think this

01:00:40.540 would just immediately disprove that like a female involuntary involuntary celibate can exist because i

01:00:47.040 don't think like if a male incel like went on the show like this that there would be like he perhaps

01:00:52.380 he might it's possible he might get some contact but like it would be like how many emails did you get

01:00:59.560 from men hundreds thousands thousands thousands yeah i could see like a guy incel maybe going on

01:01:05.940 like one of these shows and maybe getting like one or two messages from a woman like willing to fuck

01:01:10.580 him even then i think it's very unlikely um so i just think that's kind of like interesting and also

01:01:15.860 this can be tested really easily like all you would pretty much have to do is like if a fem cell came

01:01:20.220 on the show i would essentially just be like um would you like to have sex after the show and then like

01:01:25.540 okay cool oh you you wouldn't okay you're no longer a fem cell then so b b g g checkmate

01:01:32.160 well played boom roasted not you not you just like it'd be very easy to test this out you know so um

01:01:39.040 anyways uh all right well thank you for sharing what well brian but but what if what if she was heinous

01:01:44.580 and then said yes right well i don't have to go through with it well well but but then how could

01:01:51.020 you actually know okay then i'll go through with it just because yolo fucking yolo whatever how could

01:01:58.340 you really know right because then at that point you're just saying that you think she would right

01:02:04.420 but that doesn't mean you could i could yeah that doesn't mean you actually could so then therefore

01:02:10.060 perhaps she wouldn't actually that's gonna be a fem cell i think you'd have to go through with it

01:02:15.040 bro meet the kaiser donated two hundred dollars all these women telling these sad stories and not a

01:02:23.780 single one of them seemed to care about brian's traumatic trip to never let it wasn't traumatic

01:02:28.500 nothing happened man it was very nice i shook his hand i shook his hand that was it there was

01:02:39.880 people around nothing happened i'm sure you don't remember whoa what if they wiped your memory that

01:02:45.600 was that was macaulay culkin i think who who by the way he's macaulay culkin who was hanging out with

01:02:50.640 with mj said nothing happened you mean um massive junkie drug addict checked into every

01:02:58.420 psych ward on planet earth macaulay culkin who has clearly this significant childhood trauma

01:03:03.900 macaulay like that macaulay culkin you mean probably um we'll we'll get the rest of the relationship

01:03:10.620 status so um okay uh what about you um my longest relationship was five years and are you currently

01:03:20.000 single uh yeah um yes i would say so all right longest relationship five years uh how long you've

01:03:28.920 been single for uh about a year was that what the five-year one was no that that was my the one

01:03:35.520 that was my three-year one i've been in two long relationships and that i've only dated two people

01:03:40.900 so the one that ended a year ago how long was that one three years three years uh who broke up with who

01:03:45.700 um i broke up with him and then the five-year one who broke up with who i actually moved to

01:03:51.180 california and so it's kind of yeah but i it was i broke up with him okay yeah uh why did you break

01:03:57.080 up with the most recent guy um i broke up with him because he is a cheating b he cheated on you yes

01:04:06.840 okay question did he cheat up or seven like 17 times oh yeah like with 17 different women

01:04:14.660 basically because but you have to also consider like what you consider cheating you know i mean

01:04:18.640 like but also going into someone's dms and calling them beautiful that's cheating for me you know i

01:04:23.720 mean okay so that's cheating so what's he sleeping with other women um no he was going out and making

01:04:29.420 out with girls when he's like like he was basically at work like on his lunch break he would have people

01:04:36.620 make out with him on his like he literally work he actually is works at the a weed company he used to

01:04:43.740 work for a weed company so he's just making out with the like yeah like he literally he was literally

01:04:48.280 but he's also a photographer so he'd be like oh let's do a photo shoot and then he would literally

01:04:52.700 cheat on me with the girls he shot like literally and i'm like wait you said he was just wait

01:04:58.820 just making out or that's what he told you that's what no okay i literally know that he's had girls he's

01:05:06.940 literally had a photo shoot with girls and asked them he's asked them to give him head

01:05:10.720 in their own car because he doesn't drive so this is not the right let's make that clear

01:05:16.040 so yeah sounds like a winner dude and it's like yeah no that's that's why i broke up with him you

01:05:24.200 know i went back a few times you know like because he was like when i moved to california he was like

01:05:28.360 the very very very first person i knew yeah like he was the very first and like we met through

01:05:33.120 instagram before i moved here because he's a photographer right and i wanted to shoot with him

01:05:36.820 type of thing and yeah so that's why i ended up dating him did he ask for a bj from you on the

01:05:42.500 shoot no like it was so weird because we were supposed to do a photo shoot he showed up without

01:05:45.920 his camera weird right that's typical la shit yeah so then like but when i was my first my five-year

01:05:52.880 long relationship he um i moved out here and i met him wait so it's kind of right it was scheduled a

01:05:58.260 photo shoot yes he reached out to you no i reached out when i was still i was i finished high school

01:06:03.340 in nebraska so when before i so i moved to california from nebraska and i hit him up i was

01:06:09.280 like oh yeah i'm about to like you know move to la i'm about to like like build my portfolio whatever

01:06:13.280 like yo are you down to shoot when i get there basically that's how i like i hit him up for a

01:06:18.820 photo shoot like no and he doesn't have any pictures on his instagram of his face so i did

01:06:22.600 not know who this man looked like it's not more like it was i was attracted to him right away it was

01:06:26.800 nothing like that it was like literally just simply pretty you don't need to say his name but

01:06:30.920 pretty well-known photographer or i mean but you knew of him you were in minnesota you said

01:06:36.020 nebraska nebraska you knew about him no because i only knew about him because we had a mutual friend

01:06:41.860 that my our mutual friend shot with him before and it's on her instagram so i just hit him up

01:06:47.000 like hey i want headshots or no it was more like just like um instagram pictures like yeah all right

01:06:53.800 and we're yeah so you scheduled to shoot yes does he charge or was this but no see that's the thing

01:07:01.620 that's how you know that he's just wants to fuck bro because he doesn't even he literally doesn't

01:07:05.900 charge no doesn't charge nobody like he doesn't make money from it at all well i mean there's a

01:07:10.920 charge right there's a charge but so he shows up and he doesn't have his camera at all just a joint

01:07:18.800 takes you on a date i guess no like we're supposed we went to a view where i want to take pictures you

01:07:23.760 know what i mean but it it was that was it like there was no pictures taken more just like chilling

01:07:28.500 like it wasn't like he just like pushed me into a date like like it became a date you guys just hung

01:07:34.620 out basically yes and i'm over there like thinking like where the fuck is your camera like i'm in i'm in

01:07:39.820 my fit like that's pretty but you continue to date him no because that was when i first met him

01:07:45.400 and so that's we became just kind of became friends because i didn't know anyone here like i

01:07:49.520 moved i was like 18 years old and the strategy i didn't know anyone i was by myself in la wait the

01:07:54.700 strategy of showing up with no camera in a joint works i i guess but no but i just like i had no

01:08:01.260 intention of like dating him you dated him for what two years three years three years but like when

01:08:06.560 we like he would come on to me every time we would hang out like but i would always turn it like

01:08:11.040 turn it down but then i was just like but then my ex in nebraska i was like like i did it i made out

01:08:20.580 with my ex of three years simply to make my ex in nebraska jealous so before you dated him yes before

01:08:28.200 i dated him and so that's where the feelings started involving because we became more intimate

01:08:32.340 that was no intent yeah so we we were friends for like three months before i even considered like

01:08:37.300 but it was like basically the showing up with no camera it was weird it was weird for me but i

01:08:44.040 often is is that the strategy works is what you're saying it could yeah like but i had no intention

01:08:52.020 like it was like he was definitely not my type but it worked uh okay damn that's uh and it's annoying

01:09:00.320 that's almost like is that like casting couch ish i don't know i don't know what um i mean not really

01:09:11.620 well no but like no it's like kind of like slimy like oh i'm inviting you for a photo shoot but then

01:09:19.520 like i have these ulterior motives and like i mean it is kind of slimy i think yeah they know him but it

01:09:24.940 worked but i mean but it worked brian like well that's i mean no how long did you know him before

01:09:32.040 you used him for a kiss uh three months see did it yeah see i didn't had no intention i literally just

01:09:39.220 i'm like i kissed him to make my ex nebraska jealous but that's where i only became it became

01:09:44.880 more of a mindset where i was like oh maybe maybe because okay he's not my type i would say

01:09:51.860 like mindset no door right got the foot in the door that was the that's the goal right get the

01:09:58.160 foot but no it's not like it's not like he was biding his time when he needed to uh use but like

01:10:03.760 no it was not like that whole intention it was in the it was that was like it was that day thing my

01:10:08.500 ex did something and i was like fuck it he was convenient he was close he was convenient yes it was

01:10:13.540 just a day it was just a day thing like that happened that day that would have been better she's so

01:10:18.020 insanely out of his league if you saw is he what what do you mean he's like physically she's so

01:10:25.120 insanely out of his league obviously i feel like that's typical with these guys who are losers it's

01:10:31.580 like the girl is always way out of their league anyways okay so you uh said you maybe have a roster

01:10:38.320 currently though a roster yeah how many guys are on the roster see y'all are gonna hate me about that

01:10:47.960 uh what happened was i'm seeing that ex right now oh oh dude but what which ex which ex my this one

01:10:58.560 from la the camera yeah camera guy but that's only it's purely only it's purely only for sex

01:11:05.660 wait hold on just to be clear let's do a little let's do a little rewind here

01:11:10.760 so the guy who cheated on you 17 times yes um the guy who cheated on you 17 times you were dating

01:11:22.540 him for three years you broke up a year ago you're still now you've just given him essentially what

01:11:30.280 he wants which is sexual access to you without commitment is the sex really good or something

01:11:38.100 yes oh boy digmatized i plead the third man women make great choices no but it's not like i'm not

01:11:46.500 we're not dating or anything i have my roster i do stop it get some help bro i do have my roster

01:11:54.560 okay how many other guys are you hooking up with none just him i like i make out with people i make

01:12:01.700 out with guys i like at clubs and stuff wait so question but you like go out on dates with other

01:12:06.300 dudes yes yeah is there okay how many guys currently are you kind of talking to

01:12:13.080 um i would say like five like five okay multiply it by three and that's the real number

01:12:24.520 but yeah no like five definitely okay like five but it's like i don't it's like i spend time like

01:12:31.220 i spend time with them and do they but but i do not sleep with them you don't have sex with them

01:12:35.540 no but but you do let them take you on dates and pay for everything and oh no they don't pay

01:12:42.780 for everything any shopping dudes like you have one dude over here oh yeah he takes me to shop

01:12:48.320 this they're like broke college students bro oh okay yeah okay but they have something going for

01:12:53.220 them sorry can i just make sure so that i'm clear where we're at right now on the recap camera guy

01:12:59.620 shows up without a camera and a joint three months later he's he's three months later you're hooking

01:13:05.840 up with him you stay with him for three years cheats on him multiple times with other women who he

01:13:09.680 employs the same strategy on and on top of that he's still currently sleeping with you even though

01:13:15.960 you know all of this see when you put it that way when you put it that way it does sound pretty

01:13:20.540 crazy but yep that's accurate accurate accurate accurate accurate that's uh that's quite the story

01:13:32.500 there um but yeah did you ever end up getting a photo shoot out of him at least i guess a few

01:13:37.740 actually yeah and those photos came out mom does he shoot stuff for like uh like any adult stuff no

01:13:45.400 okay huh that's uh quite how tall is he five five oh okay wait i told you he's five five yeah i like

01:13:57.460 my short king how tall are you five four damn this guy's is he is he like got a fucking tree trunk or

01:14:06.640 what's going on let's just say he's mexican what does that even mean if y'all know you know if you

01:14:14.140 know i don't know that is not the stereotype generally associated with that just so you know

01:14:19.240 that's not the normal stereotype so you would know i said do you know what a stereotype is yeah but

01:14:26.200 like if you experienced it you would know if you experienced mexicans you would know

01:14:29.560 what i mean i wonder where's the stereotype come from i got i think i got to send the asteroid for the

01:14:36.880 whole just the whole like getting back with the guy and then there's in fact hold on let me just

01:14:43.600 just bomb this entire studio holy shit dude just that's wild that's great good for you though i

01:14:52.180 guess i could uh good for you good for you um damn how did so um what's that song from the 90s it's

01:15:01.740 like wasn't me what's that song yeah shaggy or whatever like shaggy yeah thank you was that like

01:15:08.380 when you caught him cheating like what did he deny it no he always like he always just comes up

01:15:15.780 and you're like yeah i did it yeah we look like okay yes were you guys you guys were in a monogamous

01:15:22.360 relationship like no were you seeing oh monogamous is just what were you seeing hold on for the three

01:15:27.480 year relationship were you seeing other guys no oh so it was closed on your end yeah basically oh wait

01:15:35.320 so hold on was he up front like saying hey by the way no you can't see other dudes but i'm gonna see

01:15:40.900 other girls it was your intention was for it to be i was not seeing any other man yeah monogamous

01:15:47.540 means only dating one person oh yeah yeah yeah yeah okay it was monogamous yeah like it was closed on

01:15:53.900 my end but he just but when he i confronted him he would be like yeah yeah yeah i did that so

01:15:58.280 it was damn this guy can we get this guy on the fucking show five five mexican don't give him

01:16:05.400 the clout cheated on her 17 times and he's still admitted to it hang on admitted to it every single

01:16:13.320 time and he's still to this day this is the riz of the the century but yeah but you're you're

01:16:21.720 at the riz of the century yeah but you're acting you're like making it sound like he he's like i

01:16:27.440 did that like i let him back into my life simply because i don't want to up my body count that's

01:16:32.760 literally the only reason why that like i literally sleep with the same four people wait but hold on

01:16:38.420 like this i know it doesn't really add to your body count but the fact that he's fucking other

01:16:42.360 people like oh no he's not now like okay like yeah i hope not where's he at at my house where's

01:16:49.760 he at in my house he's probably fucking the chick at your house no my mom still lives with me so i

01:16:54.140 know she didn't know he's not this guy seems like he's got my mom's there he's got some fucking cojones

01:16:58.920 my mom's watching him hang on this brings up another point when you say you babysit yeah uh did does

01:17:05.180 this guy live with you no he doesn't live with you no okay gotcha yeah does he have kids

01:17:12.300 no okay not that he knows stop could be out there you know well he's had 17 chances no he's

01:17:20.660 like it's crazy but he's more like the type of guy that's scared of having sexual intercourse it's

01:17:27.040 like but he'll definitely accept head from a girl like yeah his body count is only like like five

01:17:33.280 like no it's actually eight now but like he's like scared of like that but he'll definitely get

01:17:40.260 head from a female that's for sure that's not part of the body count you count that it's like

01:17:46.060 yeah i would count that i think if a chick okay then it's probably high dude it's probably

01:17:50.220 that needs to be added okay that needs that needs to be added to the count what's the audio at damien

01:17:56.820 can you see if the okay it's uh maybe just 92 i think for now um all right well uh we'll get

01:18:04.340 everybody else's uh relationship status what about you um i'm single i'm seeing one person right now

01:18:10.000 wait you're single but seeing one person right how long have you been seeing this person um a few

01:18:15.040 months uh all right are you is he also just seeing you um for the first little bit we like weren't seeing

01:18:25.900 other people or we were seeing other people um lately it's just been us okay yeah and uh longest

01:18:35.020 relationship um a little over a year all right uh how long you've been single since july six months

01:18:43.780 all right was that the one that ended uh six months ago the one year relationship no how long was the

01:18:50.100 one that ended six months ago that one i want to say like nine months okay who broke up with who

01:18:54.860 um he broke up with me one year relationship who broke up with who um he broke up with me okay

01:19:01.160 damn what are you doing man um i keep dating drug addicts and then they relapse wow that's um

01:19:07.000 stop it get some help um i'm also sober what what drugs typically meth are you like into methods or

01:19:18.280 we actually talked about that on our podcast and she was like at least they have something going for

01:19:23.960 them and i was like what that they used to shoot meth so you're spot on um meth heroin just junkies

01:19:31.220 um it's not on purpose it just kind of happens i'm also sober so i usually meet them in aa

01:19:38.860 that's a cool place to meet somebody that's always good um very smart cool cool and then uh let's see

01:19:47.920 uh okay and you're currently but you are seeing a guy do you have a roster besides him um there's

01:19:57.380 people in the dms but i'm not hanging out with anyone okay lately all right uh well how about this

01:20:04.580 for the couple months that you've been seeing this current guy who you're seeing

01:20:08.260 have you been involved with other men during that time period yeah there was one other that

01:20:15.120 crossover yeah um he was aware of it though we were both seeing other people um and we went on a

01:20:23.820 few dates i was talking to him for about a month and then we found darkavia found out for me that he

01:20:29.820 was still screwing his ex and lying to me about it good times good times all right what about you

01:20:35.940 moving on uh my uh i'm single right now okay single how long you've been single for about

01:20:41.780 two and a half years all right longest relationship two years who broke up with who it was a he broke

01:20:48.440 up with me it was my college ex okay and then the relationship that ended two and a half years ago

01:20:53.060 who broke up with who uh so uh he he also broke up with me all right and then uh you've been single

01:21:02.480 for two and a half years any anything in the picture in that period uh i mean right now no one

01:21:09.620 i'm right now i i work a lot like i'm not really trying to date right now i like i don't use any

01:21:15.980 dating apps i just don't really try to meet guys right now i'm really focused on i'm really focused

01:21:21.120 on work right now i think i love money more than men right now i like i like money a lot so i'm working

01:21:27.440 a lot and i'm also very i'm very picky like i'm because my my last my last ex the one i broke up

01:21:35.200 with two and a half years ago he was he was very abusive it was a very toxic relationship and he

01:21:40.680 basically ruined ruined my life in every way possible and it was just so it was just so bad and

01:21:48.080 now i realized why i was attracted to him was basically i just i wanted the validation of being

01:21:53.900 being chosen by a guy like basically i i had low self-esteem and just wanted the validation of being

01:22:01.380 in a relationship and then after but that one was so bad that then after it ended i was like i would

01:22:06.460 much rather be single than be with a guy who's bad so now i'm just i'm i'm very very picky okay all

01:22:14.720 right what about you i am currently single i just went through a breakup in september and i moved

01:22:20.480 back to california i ended up leaving um my whole apartment behind and like i lost everything and

01:22:28.740 then i just had to come back um but yeah i moved to texas for like a year and a half for the past

01:22:34.340 year and a half and then i moved back here like in september all right longest relationship three

01:22:39.220 years three years who broke up with who um it was kind of mutual he moved home and so it just kind

01:22:46.820 well it wasn't really mutual i didn't show up for christmas and it kind of ended there

01:22:50.460 uh and then uh was that that was your last relationship or that was no that wasn't the

01:22:56.940 last one but that was my longest one okay and the last one who broke up with who um he broke up with

01:23:02.260 me good times i have bipolar and it causes problems in my relationships but it's fine um i just am like

01:23:09.860 an annoying overthinker you know always thinking something's going on jealous so yeah

01:23:15.200 all right that's everybody's relationship status we're gonna get into some uh show notes uh and then

01:23:23.060 we'll do the some of the questionnaire stuff i did oh we did have a chat let me let the chats come

01:23:27.500 through uh all right i'm gonna can you read are you able to read that i can't see it no no no i can't

01:23:37.420 okay uh i'll read it gamer heart 69 only in the world built by men could a thing like chair one

01:23:43.560 have a position like this with men also definitely a misandrist hope its recovery from election night

01:23:48.900 is going well i think he's trying to determine your pronouns this would be a good time for you to

01:23:54.900 share them octopus i'm just kidding she her she her anybody have gotta keep him guessing okay um do

01:24:02.960 you want to respond to that he he accuses you of being a misandrist and like a real accurate

01:24:09.460 definition for me well just be kind of the counterpart to misogynist so i'm sure you know

01:24:15.800 what it is thank you yes it was a joke okay as most things were but that's okay clearly that's going

01:24:22.320 over lots of people sure but you want to would you like to respond or direct it at you so no i don't

01:24:28.660 i don't i you want to put it back up there for me sure i can pull it back up make sure i don't like

01:24:34.320 misunderstand again and get myself he says only in a world built by men could a thing like chair

01:24:40.160 one have a position like this with men also definitely misandrist yeah i mean i i

01:24:46.920 there's lots of opinions

01:24:51.500 yeah i think that goes like you know how you're saying like if we had it or he was asking if it

01:24:58.160 switched men to women would i only pick men like a lot of it comes down to just like men have been

01:25:06.380 very shitty so therefore i am not attracted to them like i wasn't it wasn't a i'm not gonna pull i was

01:25:11.200 born this way i hate all men and i've always hit like i don't hate men they're just not for me in

01:25:15.720 my bedroom i like your earrings by the way it's like for some reason this okay this seems like a

01:25:20.960 decidedly different position than i'm not attracted to people with male privilege

01:25:26.120 the idea to be quite honest with you i understand the idea of i've had traumatic experiences with men

01:25:33.320 and so therefore i i no longer want the company of men uh this is something which is commonplace for

01:25:39.480 both sexes um but that's a whole different position than i'm not attracted to men because

01:25:46.700 they're in a position of privilege that's a that's an entirely different thing altogether

01:25:50.440 so when the question was asked like are you pan are you bi are you whatever like the the tagline

01:25:55.800 i usually go with is i'm just not attracted to people who are born with male privilege like

01:25:59.460 literally as a joke it's not meant to be as literal as it was taken hence the like most of it's just a

01:26:05.840 joke it's supposed to just be light-hearted but anyways like it is turned out to be that i have never

01:26:11.360 been attracted to someone with male privilege who was born with male privilege sorry or say something

01:26:16.280 else wrong um but like how i got there was learning that and then discovering like through loads and

01:26:23.700 loads of therapy like why i was not attracted to men because i had amnesia for a very long time about

01:26:29.180 it so like having both opinions they do like have crossover for me in my own brain but i respect what

01:26:36.740 you're saying i hear what you're saying they are completely different but one led to the discovery of

01:26:41.360 another so just for a quick show of hands on the panel uh now that you sat back down i was just

01:26:46.720 curious if you could raise your hand if you've had therapy or gone to a psychologist for any issues

01:26:53.120 is that the entire panel everybody literally everybody as you should curious about that

01:27:00.660 um male therapist any anybody here seen a male therapist yeah both but you know also female

01:27:08.260 yeah uh anybody here anybody here seen more than three therapists

01:27:12.660 anybody here seen more than five therapists anybody here seen more than 10 therapists

01:27:21.620 20 therapists 15 what how many have you how many have you seen 12 you're keeping track wow well

01:27:31.440 because only because uh i move around a lot so i never really stayed in place and i was like

01:27:37.440 with my diagnosis i have to go in every year and sometimes like um it changes or like they stop

01:27:44.600 working there and i get a new one can you tilt your mic down just a teeny bit yeah what is your uh

01:27:50.120 what's your diagnosis i'm i'm diagnosed as a schizophrenic oh okay yes do you take medication for

01:27:58.540 them i choose not to i'm anti-med is it i know there's varying yeah is it mild schizophrenia no not

01:28:09.360 really well very quickly by show of hands uh who on the panel who has seen these psychologists has

01:28:15.120 ever been prescribed any drugs by them for various mental issues wait what does that mean has or has

01:28:21.160 been prescribed prescribed prescribed any drugs not asking if you've taken them just yeah you've been

01:28:27.520 prescribed them yes okay and then currently how many of you are actually on a drug prescribed to

01:28:33.740 you by a psychologist ssri take as needed for panic attacks okay but i i don't have any daily anymore

01:28:41.520 okay okay all right uh well thank you guys for uh telling us about that so how many of you would lie

01:28:48.540 by a show of hands if you were on a drug that was prescribed to you by a psychologist and you just

01:28:54.840 didn't want to admit it how many of you would lie about that i wouldn't lie because i'm trying to get

01:28:59.300 back on mine i just need to find a new psychiatrist that's a fair answer that's a fair answer all right

01:29:06.600 okay that's uh everything there uh i'm gonna get into the pre-show notes uh starting with rachel here

01:29:12.740 really quick you said as someone who's in a wheelchair i have a lot of crazy dating stories

01:29:16.600 from unhinged responses on dating apps to people trying to lift me up on the first date uh you only

01:29:24.100 date women though right yeah and so the even the women are trying to lift you up i have had people try

01:29:30.620 and like lift me up fully i'm still uncertain of whether it was a joke or not but either way

01:29:36.060 just kind of weird yeah okay all right um and you find what was that bothersome for you that they

01:29:44.840 tried to do that or yeah it was just really really awkward they thought that i needed help getting back

01:29:51.160 into my car which had a chair that would literally go down so i could get into it i'm i'm very self

01:29:58.700 sufficient i drive i do everything that i need to do on my own and i think they just assumed that i needed

01:30:04.080 help with it okay which is something that i get frequently people just think i need help with

01:30:08.380 a lot of things that i don't need help with can i ask you a question yeah they try to like lift

01:30:13.300 you up by and like under your arms yeah like like under my armpits oh okay okay okay um

01:30:18.780 yeah it was it was very invasive i literally just met them but huh damn uh yeah just kind of like um

01:30:29.540 audio it's not but but not that this isn't malicious right they're just like perhaps being

01:30:34.780 overzealous when it comes to what they're considering to be kindness yeah i i think that's

01:30:39.540 it um it's just like they didn't ask we hadn't like it was a date where we had not like held hands

01:30:45.240 nothing we had not had any physical contact i think we both knew we were not going to be going

01:30:50.580 out again after that and so just for them to go in for it was really really awkward what is a uh like

01:31:00.860 if you were to give advice to a man or woman who's like who's able-bodied who's like trying to date

01:31:09.820 you or somebody else in a wheelchair like what advice would you give them like are there any hidden

01:31:16.980 like any uh uh things to be aware of when it comes to dating somebody in a wheelchair

01:31:24.540 that they should be conservative of i think it's just like ask once you kind of establish like a

01:31:30.600 rapport relationship with someone just ask because if you don't ask it gets really weird and if you're

01:31:35.300 assuming that like they can or can't do something and then the opposite is true it gets really really

01:31:41.940 weird i mean obviously like don't ask invasive questions when you've just met someone but like

01:31:47.560 once you get to a certain point in a relationship you're gonna have to ask like oh can you feel that

01:31:51.700 or not and like it's just it comes up it happens and i think on both sides people just get uncomfortable

01:31:58.620 answering or asking questions that you kind of just have to get over that god well it's kind of a

01:32:04.580 strange etiquette though right um almost that you can't really expect people to know in a way so

01:32:09.880 yeah uh it actually kind of reminds me a few days ago i was at a restaurant with my wife and kids

01:32:15.900 it's just a local cafe here and there was an older guy and he was having trouble getting out of the

01:32:21.740 booth you know those types who like they actually struggle to get out of the booth and he finally

01:32:26.620 looked over at me i was sitting in the booth next to him he's like hey can you give me a hand i said

01:32:29.860 yeah sure so i i got up you know grabbed him pulled him up away he goes you know what i mean but i don't

01:32:36.160 know what the etiquette is you know like what's the etiquette here i have no idea so i'm just like

01:32:40.700 i just i just grabbed his arm pulled him up i didn't you know what i mean like what do you do

01:32:44.460 i think it's generally like if you see someone struggling ask before you just like go up and

01:32:49.220 help them like i love struggling going up hills when i have like a 50 pound backpack on and like

01:32:55.980 i'm pushing my 30 pound suitcase because i like to get the workout in but if you ask and i tell you

01:33:02.140 no like respect that i said no and don't just come up behind me and push there's also nothing

01:33:07.060 to push on so i don't know people like will touch you and that's also really really weird like a lot

01:33:14.720 of people do have push handles and i feel like that's more of like an etiquette thing there but

01:33:18.020 you know how like uh sometimes you'll see a person struggling like especially this this happened to me

01:33:23.880 multiple times where i'll see somebody struggling to reach something or something something like that

01:33:27.900 just walk over and grab it and pull it down right i appreciate things like that yeah sometimes that

01:33:32.000 pisses people off right for for like no particular reason i can ascertain except they're just like

01:33:37.700 upset that they couldn't reach it and you could yeah but but i you know i'm still not exactly sure

01:33:43.080 what the etiquette for that is for things like that where like there's no way i'm gonna be reaching

01:33:47.780 a bag of whatever on the top shelf at a grocery store like i appreciate help like that it's more so

01:33:52.980 things that like it really has to come down to pushing a lot or helping someone like lift where

01:33:59.160 it's just appreciated if people ask the worst part is that whenever i say no frequently people get

01:34:05.700 offended that i don't want help and it's like i've been doing this for years and years and years like

01:34:11.340 i can do it by myself well is it offended that you don't or are they offended that you don't want the

01:34:15.940 help or do you think that they're offended because they were trying to come at it from a place of like

01:34:20.660 kindness or or wanting to assist but they just didn't know the etiquette and they felt like

01:34:26.140 they're being penalized for that i i feel like that could be a part of it for some people um i think

01:34:32.060 overall it's just like you wouldn't go up to someone in a like normal chair and pick them up out of it

01:34:38.620 or like just start to carry someone and so whenever people like just come up and push me it's like

01:34:44.440 that's it's basically an extension of my body at this point like it's weird well and also you've said

01:34:50.380 something about like someone coming up and helping and whenever you say no they're like

01:34:54.520 oh my god why would you not just let me help you and they're persistent at that point just like let

01:34:58.800 it go yeah then you're just being weird and that translates over into so many other things for

01:35:03.540 able-bodied people too when it comes to uh dating um have you either of you well you both date women

01:35:11.840 have you guys ever no absolutely just friends okay have you absolutely not have you guys ever

01:35:19.380 dated somebody else in a wheelchair no and that's like a preference thing for me and i know people

01:35:25.500 are like i'm like you can't like that's ableist but i would not date another disabled person what

01:35:29.780 about you uh the opportunity has never presented itself but like i have no idea maybe if there was

01:35:35.520 like that perfect person but like wait they would have to be perfect no i just mean like someone that

01:35:39.460 matches me like i'm not gonna just date someone because they're in a wheelchair well like assuming

01:35:42.640 they did meet like the typical criteria that you would uh require for i guess someone not in a

01:35:49.820 wheelchair no it doesn't matter you would and then for you or i just think that there are too many

01:35:53.920 things that like i know and i can preemptively see coming up in my life where like i'd appreciate

01:35:58.440 having someone who can help me like reach a dish or do things that i necessarily can't do because

01:36:05.280 like i'm very aware of my limitations and so i feel like it'll be more difficult having two people

01:36:11.000 that need the same amount of help because then you need another person to come in in those situations

01:36:15.800 and that's just a lot we have way different support needs too yeah yeah exactly stand and

01:36:20.400 rachel can't especially like when we're home for cooking or something like i can stand and cook

01:36:24.680 most of the time and she cannot so like reaching the back burner is like it goes down to simple

01:36:29.800 things like that she can't reach the back burner i can't reach the dryer to turn it on because

01:36:33.560 it's too far it's just things like that that are stupid that like if two people with my specific

01:36:39.260 support needs were together like it would be stupid to call someone and press a button

01:36:44.900 okay um hmm rock and roll uh okay so and then you said something about uh well you taught you told

01:36:56.900 us about the whole lifting thing uh getting into the other show notes here let me just get those

01:37:01.120 going here guys one sec actually let me check no we're all good there um we have notes here from

01:37:08.680 oh she's up right now uh lauren do we have a lauren oh okay she's the fucking no show or the

01:37:17.920 yeah uh we have lexi oh that's also the no show okay we have melena did i say it right this time

01:37:27.000 you're a certified reiki master we already went over that reiki reiki okay reiki reiki like a rake

01:37:35.920 okay you had a guy from hinge come over to get you dinner but he catfished you um tell it tell us

01:37:45.060 the story go ahead um it was like two years ago um there was a guy from hinge that was supposed to

01:37:50.620 come over to go on a date and he didn't even plan anything so that was already like a red flag

01:37:56.020 um but when he got there he's like where are we going and he'd completely catfished and looked like

01:38:01.920 way uglier than the picture and so i was like um i need to go grocery shopping if you want to come

01:38:08.860 and then i had him carry my groceries up like three flights of stairs and just be the muscle and then

01:38:16.060 came up with an excuse for him to leave um but i've also done the same thing with like

01:38:21.080 needing a couch being brought upstairs or furniture built yeah you wrote here that you used to often

01:38:29.500 match with guys on dating apps just so that they could come over to put together furniture

01:38:35.600 yeah and then you once had a how many times would you say you've done that um it was all around that

01:38:44.840 same time period when i had that condo two years ago but it was probably like

01:38:49.320 three or four times okay and then you said you once had a friends with a friend with benefits

01:38:58.040 carry two massive couches of three flights of stairs yeah love him okay he did it on his own

01:39:05.000 yeah he did it on his own couch yeah must have been pretty strong then yeah it fell on him at the top

01:39:11.840 of the stairs did he stay at the top of the stairs yeah my roommate took a video and thought

01:39:18.120 it was damn bro funny and crazy but i had also been seeing him on and off for like three years so

01:39:23.140 we were good friends and he thought it was okay but the one i'm curious about though you would

01:39:27.940 match with men on dating apps get them to come and would you hook up with them after or no

01:39:33.220 um not that it would not not the grocery yeah but you said you used to often match with guys on

01:39:39.980 dating apps just to put together furniture for you um i think some of them yeah i was okay i was in a

01:39:46.920 little hoe phase back then what is a little what do you mean by hoe phase um not that sex work makes

01:39:55.280 you a hoe but i was doing sex work at the time and i was relapsed when you say doing sex work

01:40:01.160 what do you mean i was working at a strip club and doing only fans and escorting definitely not

01:40:06.540 escorting 100 would make you if hoe means prostitute then that definitely that's what it would make you

01:40:14.000 for sure i wasn't having sex with like the people at the strip club but i i not you don't you don't

01:40:20.260 need to right that's that's that's not the exchange of product like if a guy paid to have a prostitute

01:40:26.800 go up to his room uh and then he just like jerked it while he watched her that would still be

01:40:33.340 prostitution right i didn't know that but yeah so um no one jerked off in front of me so okay but i i

01:40:41.440 do what you're saying but there there's a differentiation here because like you could be a

01:40:46.800 sex worker doing all that shit but like not sleeping with people but like hoe phase typically

01:40:52.340 typically when i think about that it's more so like you just having a string of casual sexual

01:40:57.960 encounters with men not necessarily being involved in sex work but that's a component of it um were

01:41:04.040 you having a string of casual sexual encounters um probably like the same five at the same time yeah

01:41:10.880 so like monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday different guy no i think it was like

01:41:15.880 different weeks um that was probably like a two month period i only did um stripping and only fans

01:41:26.040 for like two or three months did have you ever um during the hofez really quick uh anybody else here

01:41:32.360 at the table had the hofez show fans anybody else you you you you hofez hofez hofez no

01:41:40.280 darkavia no okay okay uh cassie over there i've befriended people that had ho faces okay you became

01:41:53.000 friends with yes i've been friends with um with fuck boys and um girls that go through ho faces and the

01:42:02.040 fuck boys are the worst the worst they show me pictures of all the girls and what their genitals

01:42:07.820 look like and stuff and they compare like this girl to this other girl compare genitals well they

01:42:13.860 they like they tell me like i think they just want somebody to talk to that's not gonna judge

01:42:18.880 you judged i did you judged yeah yeah but like i'm not gonna say that i judged but um like this one

01:42:26.980 dude in high school we were like kind of friends because like i think the best way a man and a

01:42:32.480 woman could be friends is if like one of them thinks the other one is ugly or like not attracted

01:42:37.520 that's probably true in an intellectual way or whatever so like wait wouldn't the best way to

01:42:41.840 be friends is that they both think each other is ugly i feel like that's the best right well

01:42:46.940 because i think he's physically attractive oh but i think he's dumb and he doesn't think i'm

01:42:55.360 physically attractive but he thinks i'm smart i don't really think i'm that smart yeah so so we're

01:43:02.660 friends and he he looks like a fuck boy and his uh his male friends like he said that he doesn't talk

01:43:10.520 to them about that shit anymore because they're in relationships so now he just has me and he wants

01:43:16.720 me to like text these girls on his behalf because he has so many girls that he's texting and i want to

01:43:24.220 say like i wouldn't do stuff like that but sometimes i have nothing to do and we hang out

01:43:29.820 and i will text the girls for him and i feel horrible for that but he has a really nice apartment

01:43:35.680 in manhattan thank you for sharing that pertinent information there please um was it a one bedroom

01:43:40.680 a two bedroom or a three bedroom he has a two bedroom apartment what in manhattan you said yeah

01:43:45.740 and when he's thank you i appreciate the detail he's a finance bro absolutely uh necessary part

01:43:53.300 of the conversation now so anyways going back to uh the hofay stuff so uh just teasing you cassie

01:43:59.020 just teasing you okay so um can i throw one thing in about the hofay thing besides the penis go ahead

01:44:06.440 sorry i i um terrible terrible i don't i don't think we should stereotype sex workers as hoes

01:44:15.400 just so like make that very clear just because if someone is doing i'm a dancer i'm a dancer and it

01:44:21.580 doesn't mean that i'm sleeping with everybody or we're all doing like you know it doesn't mean

01:44:26.020 you're in a ho phase sometimes it's just i don't want i don't want to have the like porn bad

01:44:29.340 oh i've never done that but i mean andrew would probably say you're a hoe just it no well no

01:44:38.440 it depends on how we're defining the things i consider all sex work prostitution that's true yeah

01:44:43.280 why do you just mean like hoe as in a slut that's a different category i thought prostitution is getting

01:44:51.920 paid to do sexual acts no it's an exchange of money for sexual favors of some kind okay so would

01:44:59.160 you consider like a lap dance a sexual favor absolutely okay you're grinding you're grinding

01:45:05.580 you're grinding a part of your body on his part of his body for the purpose of sexual gratification

01:45:10.540 exchange for money i don't see how that could be categorized as anything less than prostitution

01:45:14.820 what if you're above them and you don't let them touch you that's what i would do you're touching them

01:45:19.180 no like you're not touching you're just dancing even well even then it's it's for the purpose of

01:45:24.740 sexual gratification it's a sexual favor so yeah i would definitely categorize that as a form of

01:45:29.960 prostitution that's valid uh so okay we were talking about the hoe phase um that was for you uh during

01:45:41.040 the hoe phase did you ever hook up with two guys in the same day

01:45:44.480 um i had friends are not doing you any favors here i had a threesome with two guys during that

01:45:55.020 a threesome with two guys okay i didn't like it but but did you ever have like individual

01:46:00.240 hookup individual hookup um not during that phase i think i had a worse hoe phase when i was um

01:46:09.580 like 17 18 that was probably the height senior year of high school yeah i was i was really deep

01:46:16.800 in addiction so it would kind of happen sorry addicted to what again i don't know if you shared

01:46:21.060 that during before i was 18 i was addicted well when i was 18 i was addicted to xanax and blackout

01:46:27.880 drinker um okay and i stayed sober for 18 months relapse yeah during the time i was relapse i was

01:46:34.440 stripping and now i've been sober for 20 months okay all right well congrats on the sobriety thank

01:46:40.480 you uh i guess the worst hope is like two guys in one day yeah three guys in one day no okay how many

01:46:49.360 in a week oh man when i was 17 honestly it was like five hear me out um when i was 17 i would

01:47:02.180 i know i agree it's horrible i would um sneak out to escape i didn't even say anything i agree with

01:47:10.400 your face i think it's horrible i wish i didn't um you would sneak out i would sneak out and meet up

01:47:15.780 with older guys online to escape like abuse at home excuse me when you say older guys

01:47:24.700 um the oldest was 30 when i was 17 and they knew i was 17 yeah that's a yikes i agree yeah that's a yikes

01:47:32.800 did they know because i mean yeah they knew they knew you were 17 because you have to be 18 to

01:47:40.340 go on the dating apps yeah i've been banned from tinder ever since because i wouldn't lie about it

01:47:45.840 damn did any of them catch a case or anything because that's technically no sir yikes damn

01:47:56.140 uh it all depends on the state anyway but that was also no i mean not that much or well i didn't want

01:48:04.060 to no i think yeah like i chose to be there you know but this was in california right yes yeah that

01:48:11.380 was definitely a crime sorry was i not supposed to say that no no no i mean it was they i mean

01:48:17.840 you told you disclosed them i mean you probably there is a i suppose some degree of blame here for

01:48:22.680 you because you shouldn't be going on the dating apps until you're 18 but i mean these men you

01:48:26.460 disclosing that you're 17 like yeah that's that's a major yikes like escape home but also to get like

01:48:34.520 alcohol at the time different kind of escape careful careful guys on the those of you who are on

01:48:40.300 the dating apps guys you gotta be careful make sure you get that photo id get that photo id absolutely

01:48:45.620 girls will lie i was honest but yeah did you ever i'm just just curious about this um did you ever

01:48:53.200 think that you were putting the men who you're going to see in a compromising position by the fact

01:49:00.460 that you were underage that that could have a drastic and detrimental impact in the rest of their

01:49:05.280 life i think the way that i justified it at the time was that i was being honest with them about

01:49:10.660 my age so i was like if you're okay with it i am um but no i mean i agree with you i think that

01:49:17.780 changes the category if it's disclosed first for sure you know what i mean um but i get what you're

01:49:23.640 saying it still does i was just curious about it okay um and then uh you certified reiki yeah can

01:49:33.600 you like demonstrate some reiki on darkavia over there darkavia darkavia can i can i call you like

01:49:39.840 you could you could there are a couple of people possibly yeah you can call me anything you call me

01:49:44.920 dj my last name is jacobs dj okay sweet i usually there are two people in the room who could use the

01:49:50.840 healing power i would take it if it would work hold on wait yo stand up right now reiki the shit

01:50:00.140 out of them do you just tell them to stand up no you stand up you stand up you stand up

01:50:07.980 i was like what do you want to use no let's go through this part we want to start with the level

01:50:13.000 one chakras and getting the warm up how about this get that third eye opened up wait can you do it to

01:50:19.580 me hang on hang on can you tell real quick can you tell tell us what color is brian's aura right

01:50:23.820 what's my aura what color is it um i don't know i'm not going to claim to know when i don't do i

01:50:29.840 have them usually i meditate beforehand and then um i'll see like colors while i'm doing it and so i

01:50:36.940 associate those colors i see colors when i meditate um so i'll like associate that with what chakra

01:50:43.800 needs some nice do you know that anybody do you know that anybody can see an aura if they want to

01:50:49.220 it's actually really simple to do it's a trick of the eye it's a trick of the mind i mean she's

01:50:54.180 trying to be so great any object yeah including the one in the room with you right now i can

01:50:58.240 demonstrate it for every woman who's here do it so if you do it what color is mine that's if you look

01:51:03.460 at the microphone that's directly in front of you and you unfocus your eyes on that microphone

01:51:07.720 unfocus like you're looking through it wait for just a few seconds picture a color and you'll start

01:51:14.140 to see an outline of a type of color perhaps not the one you're picturing

01:51:18.820 it takes a couple of seconds takes but you'll see it if it at the more you stare at it i know

01:51:26.040 you're talking about i saw like a green fuzzy around brian nobody me doing it yeah that's crazy

01:51:32.100 libertarian it's a donated two hundred dollars i want chair six to be my speechify slash city

01:51:38.300 slash audible voice completely devoid of emotion and the most deadpan even when laughing me yeah

01:51:44.900 that's you cheers that's so funny my mom says the same thing do you want to respond or thank you

01:51:51.900 okay thank you i could do that i could make you an audible voice for sure yeah libertarian thank you

01:51:57.540 for the uh tts man really appreciate it w's in the chat guys for libertariat uh okay so let's get

01:52:04.120 those super chats rolling over on whatever crucible crew he's put together some great panels lately it's

01:52:09.760 been a lot of fun to uh to tangle up with the various people who are on them make sure you get

01:52:15.140 those tts's thank you guys appreciate it so uh let's see uh okay we were talking going through your

01:52:23.140 notes uh i would like a demo though of the reiki will you do it tonight on the show sure okay i mean

01:52:30.700 i don't touch their body the only place i'll touch is like their forehead and temples and then swiping

01:52:36.140 below the knee um because i think that's helpful and it can help treat like certain maladies or

01:52:42.480 ailments and stuff um well there's um there's a really good book about it you can heal your life by

01:52:48.180 louise hay right but so it can though but yeah so in the book it kind of explains how like different

01:52:54.380 chakras are associated to different illnesses yeah um so i kind of base it off of that book have you

01:53:00.300 ever treated anybody with like erectile dysfunction or no someone asked me actually and i said no you

01:53:06.180 wouldn't do that that's kind of like don't you feel like a hippocratic oath like don't you shouldn't

01:53:10.880 help a guy like he can't like i think like maybe a different reiki healer that not feels more

01:53:17.700 comfortable with that okay what about like what about like premature ejaculation like can you help

01:53:22.440 there or like if the guy just it's too quick or like asking for a friend just asking for a friend

01:53:29.380 you know just a friend yeah here's some good here's some good reiki look just curious look at that

01:53:38.440 look at that it didn't even burn me didn't even burn me reiki baby i got it i got that i got the

01:53:46.880 chakras going i got it let's go let's go all right back into the notes here we do have uh let's see

01:53:54.160 uh i can't see it could dang okay nice noise uh so okay going back to your notes you're currently

01:54:04.460 considering open relationships and curious on other people's thoughts on it uh you wanted to

01:54:09.660 also discuss the struggles of dating while doing only fans so you do of not anymore during that while

01:54:16.460 you were doing it two years ago what kind of content were you doing just like bg any bg content

01:54:20.960 what does that mean boy girl no okay solo content then solo okay uh you said uh you were

01:54:29.880 signed to an agency and you're working in a strip club you had a horrible experience with it are you

01:54:34.800 talking about the of or the strip club or both um the strip club and then because of the horrible

01:54:40.400 experience there i decided to quit all of it right you said it was traumatic but the money was amazing

01:54:45.440 you would never do it again you would never do it again because you're hopeless romantic

01:54:49.040 and it made dating impossible and you value your self-respect and respect from others more than

01:54:54.080 easy quick money yep yeah and i mean you also dance do you dance too currently yeah uh have you guys

01:55:01.520 struggled with dating because of the dancing yeah but you do you do of two yeah of two no i've only

01:55:09.560 just stripping for like a month okay um so for you did you you start stripping before the of correct

01:55:15.400 no i did i started of in 2020 then you started i started dancing two years ago what do you think

01:55:19.880 like i was gonna ask what do you think would make dating harder stripping or doing of have

01:55:25.600 stripping for sure stripping for sure way easier because i only do boy girl content so i'm never

01:55:30.140 having to leave the house never having to talk to anyone really like i just talk to them in chat but

01:55:34.200 i'm not having to see meet up with them or anything see them in person okay got it yeah we've

01:55:39.480 definitely heard from a lot of uh women on of that they uh struggle with the dating stuff uh let's

01:55:44.140 see would you guys be uh i guess would you object to a guy who didn't want to date you because you

01:55:49.940 guys do of like what do you think that's like what do you think he's insecure or anything like that

01:55:54.380 it's i understand it no my last relationship uh he wanted me to stop dancing and i stopped

01:55:59.260 dancing out of respect but the one before that i actually met him in the club the one that was the

01:56:04.560 longest relationship surprisingly all right um and i guess just finishing up on your previous note

01:56:09.720 uh you said you're currently considering open relationships uh so are you but if i recall

01:56:16.240 you've been single for six months you said yeah are you uh did you say there was a guy in the picture

01:56:22.820 i forgot yeah so i'm i'm seeing one guy right now we both don't really want to settle to one person

01:56:31.240 right now i feel like i'm in a space where i'm still like figuring out myself um although like

01:56:38.640 i do want to get married one day would you say you're finding yourself on a journey i mean i think

01:56:46.520 i'll always be discovering more about myself but i think because i was recently in like a very

01:56:52.840 unhealthy abusive relationship i'm not ready to get into a new relationship

01:56:59.740 okay all right uh and then uh andrew do you have a question for the panel i need to get up for

01:57:07.800 just a moment do you have a line of inquiry just uh dive into a couple of quick things if you don't

01:57:13.960 mind heading back over to the reiki how did you get involved in that just some buddy of yours or

01:57:21.200 something um i was actually it was while i was a patient in rehab there um they would do

01:57:28.980 this like sound bath breath work class and then someone would go around and do reiki and i had a

01:57:35.100 really powerful experience with that um was that like guided meditation you mean yeah like a guided

01:57:41.120 meditation and they'll guide you through the breath work like wim hof breath work um so then i started

01:57:47.420 working for that non-profit and getting certified and i'll go around and do the reiki while they

01:57:53.600 have the breath work class now so it's a job for you yeah i don't get paid for they pay you to do the

01:58:00.200 reiki i get paid with my private clients um but with the non-profit all of the proceeds go towards

01:58:06.660 bringing meditation to children in schools so i do it for free that's really cool let me ask you a

01:58:12.240 question if you were to discover that there could be like some placebo benefits meaning it doesn't

01:58:19.540 actually work but because some people think it works it has some positive influence on them but

01:58:25.420 you were able to discover 100 that it was fake would you still do it because you thought that it gave

01:58:30.580 people positive results even if it was fake yeah i think i would just because i think the whole reason

01:58:37.820 i do it is to help other people um so if it's still providing that i would probably still do it

01:58:43.720 yeah really you wouldn't see any ethical issues with that um well if there was like a study that

01:58:52.620 it wasn't a hundred percent like a hundred percent wasn't true and like everyone knew about it that's

01:58:58.440 what i was assuming okay yeah if they were like also aware all right quick question for the uh for the

01:59:05.580 rest of the panelists while brian's up just a quick show of hands can you raise your hand if you've

01:59:11.160 ever done witchcraft or have any type of association with witchcraft this would include ouija boards

01:59:18.380 you know stuff like that just uh just the fun goofy stuff right i do full moon rituals

01:59:24.680 you do what what are full moon rituals what are these i'll write down like i'll write down my like

01:59:34.100 fears and like certain things i want to be removed and then burn it under the full moon so if that's

01:59:40.180 witchcraft yeah yeah that's what your definition of witchcraft because i've done a few things but i

01:59:47.000 don't know if it was like i did a ouija board when i was 18 i didn't like it i think it messed up my

01:59:53.040 life i think this is kind of i don't know if i'd quite call it witchcraft but it's kind of in the

01:59:59.640 same category but i was talking to this guy during covid who i had a really big crush on him at the

02:00:05.860 time and because you know we were all in quarantine i was staying inside i was bored so i would do this

02:00:10.980 manifest a specific person meditation on youtube every day to try to manifest a relationship with

02:00:17.640 this guy and i did it every day for probably like eight months and he ended up he ended up rejecting me

02:00:25.480 but then after he rejected me i got i got really angry and because he started dating this other he

02:00:30.460 started dating this other girl like he told me he was like oh i'm i like you but i'm just not ready

02:00:36.180 and then a month later he's dating this other girl and then that was when i met when i met my ex

02:00:41.840 the last one the one who was really abusive and then after i broke up with this ex this guy ended up

02:00:47.420 reaching out about like saying that he likes me and wants to try again so i guess it did kind of work

02:00:54.420 but by then i was no longer interested in him because i kind of realized like he's a nice guy

02:01:00.020 but we're just not compatible anymore well let's say for a second that uh you just obsessed over this

02:01:06.720 guy rather than trying to manifest anything so i understand what you're saying it's like the law

02:01:11.380 of attraction type thing you're talking about yeah where yeah yeah got it like you like you watch the

02:01:16.460 secret and after you watch the secret it changed your life type of thing yeah it's a not a secret but it

02:01:23.300 was uh the kevin trudeau's your wish is your command was the first one that that was my first i guess

02:01:28.900 deep dive into manifestation when my friend sent me those audios and after i started listening to

02:01:34.680 those and then just wanting to learn more and more about it and i went from there how to manifest the

02:01:39.560 things you want so let's just say that you were super obsessive about this person what would be the

02:01:44.020 distinction between that and manifesting something uh-huh i just like believe that i believed it would work

02:01:50.940 and also you know we were all in quarantine i think that kind of fucked with a lot of people's

02:01:56.580 heads on some level i don't think i don't think i would do that now it's like right now i'm i'm way

02:02:01.920 too busy i work a lot i'm way too busy to spend 20 minutes a day on a meditation like that

02:02:07.380 i was bored it was like covid related witchcraft you're just bored so trying to manifest up the guy

02:02:14.380 you wanted it yeah pretty much yeah okay all right all right what other witchcraft stories

02:02:21.220 we got i'd use money candles to make like hopefully make like obviously more money i had a money tree

02:02:27.280 for a little bit and then what's a what's a money tree it's like it's literally like a tree that

02:02:32.860 manifests money i don't know what yeah is it a bonsai it's a plant yeah bonsai tree

02:02:37.760 how does it manifest money it's like a really popular thing in korea um i light a candle and i

02:02:44.060 put a hundred dollar bill underneath and i let it burn and um kind of just like i repeat the number

02:02:50.580 like the amount of money that i want to make that night so that um manifests it pretty much i don't

02:02:56.200 know did it work it has worked several times uh sometimes i make the exact amount or more

02:03:01.780 really so what do you think that's a better way to make money than taking that hundred and investing

02:03:07.940 it well i don't burn the 100 but it's just i know you don't burn it right yeah i'm just i'm just i'm

02:03:14.980 just pointing it out anyway what else what else you got and then tarot cards but i'm not like i'm not

02:03:20.760 the best at it um but i have dabbled in it like here and there it's not something i really focus on

02:03:25.940 anymore because it can get really toxic um but yeah what do you mean i can cause like paranoia

02:03:31.760 if you keep getting your cards read and like or it can cause obsession or anything like obsession

02:03:37.900 with a person and thinking like oh my god they're going to come back and like you know things like

02:03:41.940 that like this tiktok people like the way they do it and like how it's like spread every like it's

02:03:46.820 just like a reading after reading after reading that can like that can become really toxic for the

02:03:51.780 brain okay anybody else nobody else nobody else has this isn't witchcraft this isn't really

02:04:01.380 witchcraft i don't think but i see the same psychic every month for you see a psychic does

02:04:06.540 anybody else see a psychic not anymore i've seen one are they across the street from the psychologist

02:04:12.060 no it's my sister's friend from high school oh really yeah was he a psychic in high school

02:04:19.480 um i think it was like right around the end of high school so like 10 15 years ago

02:04:27.200 oh well did any good insights there yeah um

02:04:32.980 about my life right now she's like quit your job good things are coming start the podcast with darkavia

02:04:43.220 okay all right let's move on to a different line of uh nobody else has any witchcraft stories very

02:04:50.520 quickly uh by a show of hands raise your hand if you've ever dated a narcissist go ahead

02:04:57.520 okay man so it's a lot of people who've dated a narcissist all right real quick show of hands

02:05:07.220 raise your hand raise your hand those of you who've dated a narcissist where that narcissist was

02:05:12.560 actually diagnosed by somebody who was not you

02:05:16.380 can i add something to that it's pretty rare that narcissism is diagnosed because what the disorder

02:05:31.440 is is not being able to admit your wrongs like that's part of it um so like if a therapist is

02:05:39.320 only hearing their side we're like they're the victim they're not going to know that they're a

02:05:43.260 narcissist uh well i don't understand and there seems to be quite a few people who are more than

02:05:51.080 capable of dating a narcissist i just saw many of them raise their hands quite a few people who seem

02:05:56.680 to be quite capable of saying you're a narcissist or not a narcissist when you say it doesn't go

02:06:01.400 diagnosed it doesn't seem to stop you from diagnosing it because the person diagnosing is only hearing the

02:06:07.220 narcissist side and part of the narcissism is that they're the victim they're not going to admit like

02:06:12.680 it's a control certain things yeah you let down your guard with the person you're dating and that's

02:06:17.320 how you see people's true colors i think it's what you're getting at like my therapist has said that

02:06:22.420 my mom's a narcissist but my mom's therapist doesn't say that but me and all of my sister's

02:06:28.240 therapist does because my mom's therapist is only hearing her side not that she

02:06:34.280 physically abused her children yeah i mean i do assume that narcissists do have or who you think is

02:06:43.580 a narcissist have their side of the story too right like that's not supposed to just be dismissed because

02:06:49.460 you think they're a narcissist valid but don't you have to include both sides to get a diagnosis yeah

02:06:55.460 but if you did include both in this case the diagnoser is only including their side right

02:07:00.680 the diagnosee no the diagnoser in this case would be the women who say that they've dated a narcissist

02:07:07.400 they're only including their side how could they be including the other person's side

02:07:11.200 yeah i get what you're saying that makes sense yeah

02:07:14.200 yeah did you uh did you have a bit more andrew otherwise i'll just finish up on the notes here

02:07:22.440 yeah well just uh just just the last thing um i i just wanted to to ask who here has dated

02:07:30.160 from their perception more than one narcissist show of hands

02:07:35.120 really oh so so you're like how do you keep finding so many narcissists how how i think it

02:07:47.240 comes when when you're like a healer you want to help other people and you see these people are

02:07:50.680 damaged and then they take advantage of you because they see how good and caring you are and they just

02:07:55.940 don't do that they don't reciprocate it yeah that's exactly what happened to me with my last ex he just

02:08:00.920 literally depleted me so completely i was like when we broke up i was like a shell of everything

02:08:06.940 like it was like all my magic had been just completely drained out when we broke up and

02:08:12.540 then i had to rebuild oh she said magic they really know how to break your spirit it is how it feels

02:08:19.040 though it literally is okay last question and then i'll let brian moving on raise your hand if you think

02:08:26.360 there's a good possibility that brian atlas the host of the show is a narcissist

02:08:30.800 the guy who's in the room with you right now just kidding just kidding okay and then raise your

02:08:38.980 hand if you think i'm a narcissist just kidding just kidding again just kidding just kidding all

02:08:45.480 right what about misogynist

02:08:46.840 i think some misogyny is like not bad okay i don't think it's the same like a low level of

02:08:57.260 misogyny you're kind of down for you're down for the cause i don't know why but yes you're down for

02:09:01.960 the misogyny okay i think narcissism is different from misogyny though okay all right i think because

02:09:08.140 sometimes my last relationship i was the narcissist so that's why just okay uh let's blast through these

02:09:14.600 notes then we can get to the juicy stuff in the questionnaire uh nikki you said that you've had

02:09:19.480 so many crazy dating stories your ex tried to exes plural excuse me tried to kill you yeah two

02:09:26.020 different bones the the two the ones that i was in the two-year relationship both of them tried to

02:09:29.680 kill me and both times i got help from other people so well actually okay long story when you

02:09:34.940 say they're trying to kill you like one one tried to shoot me like twice like with a glock actually

02:09:39.680 shot yeah with the glock like he had the gun pointed well no he literally was going to and i

02:09:43.580 literally was begging him to stop and his mom was in the other room and i was crying begging him to

02:09:46.640 stop and then that was the final straw hold uh wait hold on are you okay no wait so two separate

02:09:57.020 guys two separate occasions well only one one tried to shoot me the other one just like strangled me

02:10:01.740 and then but he had a gun did you just one just one did tried oh just one had a gun yeah just one

02:10:06.380 had a gun and the other one strangled me the other one strangled you yeah was it like a one hand or a

02:10:11.260 two it was two hands and but luckily the cops came the cops found us and so with the gun though

02:10:17.200 he pointed the gun yeah at your like how close was he he was just like this like just straight how far

02:10:23.220 away like closer than this like i was standing like in the middle of the table was the gun

02:10:27.060 touching your head he was just facing it right towards me and like and i didn't know if it was

02:10:31.500 loaded or not and i just didn't want to take any because i knew he had bullets his whole family has

02:10:35.380 guns i know he had bullets and he would do it so i just had to beg for my life and you know play the

02:10:41.780 parts okay um how long ago is that this was um two years ago right before i moved down to la this

02:10:49.220 that's why i moved down here to get far away from him okay i don't blame you at all that's horrifying

02:10:54.180 um so like i've heard a similar story like that like working in mental health and like a lot of the

02:11:00.860 times when women are in these horrible you know dangerous situations um they're like they've

02:11:08.160 normalized like being in horrible dangerous situations i was used to getting beat yeah

02:11:13.200 that's what i wanted to know like so when you were younger like one of your parents beat you

02:11:17.480 no no it's just my exes that beat me your exes yeah okay so when you first realized that they were

02:11:24.260 abusive verbally emotionally physically why didn't you leave and i'm not victim blaming it's just that i

02:11:30.800 i hear this a lot and sometimes like girls actually die so like i'm just curious like

02:11:36.340 because there had to be something before the gun you know i felt like i had no support and you know

02:11:42.140 i felt like i was alone i had animals that i lived with both of them so i feel like that also made me

02:11:47.240 feel tied down to them and i had two pets at the time with them so not only did i have to escape myself

02:11:52.660 i had to escape my animals too you know so i had to come up with a plan and it's just you know i felt

02:11:57.320 like i had no options wait what yeah you couldn't leave the abusive relationship because of fluffy

02:12:03.620 i had two chinchillas and like i just you know i wanted to save them chinchillas yeah and i wanted

02:12:10.920 to save them because you know i didn't want to i couldn't leave them like they were my babies they

02:12:14.200 were all i had left you know like i was what's a chinchilla is that a type of it's a rodent rat like

02:12:20.120 it looks like they're so yeah it looks like a squirrel almost it's a rabbit no it looks like

02:12:24.200 a mixture between a squirrel and a rabbit let me google this shit yeah they're really cute it looks

02:12:27.980 like a fluffy rat but anyway yeah oh you so you it's a rodent yourself in harm's way can like bite

02:12:35.700 off a couple of fluffy rats yeah you know my mom tells me every day like i should have just left

02:12:40.100 those animals but you know i can't do that it's not in my heart wait do you still have them no i had

02:12:44.300 to give them up to move down here because they like but you know i'm glad i rest i saved them

02:12:51.440 from him you know what i mean he probably would have killed them oh yeah so he didn't give a fuck

02:12:55.160 about them so i had to i could see a dog or like a cat but like no i couldn't see that either but i

02:13:01.480 would at least grant that there could be a bigger emotional sure yeah well and also like i was living

02:13:06.880 with him at the time so he made me he isolated me from my family like i wasn't allowed to talk to

02:13:11.540 my mom i wasn't allowed to talk to my sister like which is insane even saying that but i literally

02:13:16.560 just felt trapped how long have you been in like dangerous situations um like a lot a lot well i

02:13:23.840 mean with god like i mean depending like i in dangerous situations even with guys i'm not dating

02:13:29.440 like i got chased the other night by some guy like some random guy okay so it's just always

02:13:34.180 i'm sorry it's just i hear this a lot so when you when you are and and i'm not saying this is no

02:13:39.460 fault of your own but when you are in dangerous situations for a prolonged period of time the only

02:13:45.040 like one of the main ways one of the only ways you can die is violently because like i've seen

02:13:51.700 girls they're like their faces like slashed because they were in a situation that they felt like they

02:13:56.520 couldn't get out of i definitely felt like i couldn't get away and that's why i had to for the

02:14:02.200 second one i had to talk to my work and come up with an escape plan and ask his sister worked with

02:14:06.300 me at this job and i had to tell her about all the abuse and she helped me come up with an escape

02:14:10.200 plan because she knew how her brother was she knew he had a history of abusing girls and so she wanted

02:14:15.200 to help me okay so you know she she gave me the string bonding yeah uh all right well this is not

02:14:20.680 where i thought this was for real big summer camp you said you uh church camp oh you said that you

02:14:28.240 found out that uh one of your exes was doing meth yeah so this is when you went through his pockets

02:14:35.600 yeah this is like the one guy who i went through his phone i don't do this anymore because i know

02:14:40.140 i'm gonna find shit i don't like but yeah he would he would so he would basically when you're on meth

02:14:44.780 like it puts you in a deep sleep when you finally crash so he would be in such a deep sleep that i

02:14:48.540 know he wasn't gonna wake up so i'd go through his phone so i'd reach my hand in his pocket and then i

02:14:52.800 found a meth pipe and then like the next day i confronted him i broke that shit and i confronted him

02:14:57.080 and he said it was his brother's so then i went up to his brother and i'm like hey i'm sorry i broke

02:15:00.620 your pipe i didn't know it was yours and the brother just looked at me like uh okay and then

02:15:05.160 i found out he was doing meth and then everything made sense why he would steal things from people

02:15:08.620 why he'd steal from me he stole money from me to go gambling and like i was the only one working at

02:15:13.360 the time so he would steal my last dollar to go gambling okay um and then you also said you enjoy

02:15:20.620 speaking on dating dating sex workers as you are one you date male sex workers is what you're saying or

02:15:26.300 no like i just how you know it's hard for your own experiences dating as a sex worker okay yes and

02:15:32.200 then i guess a different one moving on you said with modern dating i feel like we bring back old

02:15:37.180 traditions like the man provides and we clean what do you mean by that um i mean i'm i would love to

02:15:42.020 be a stay-at-home mom so i don't mind if a man wants to just you know let work out you know work for

02:15:46.660 us and then i would just stay home and clean like i'm perfectly fine with that but i'm also been the

02:15:50.400 one to where i'm the only one working and i've provided for the man so i've i've done both but i

02:15:55.960 prefer to be provided for i understand the the idea here that um you want to stay home while the

02:16:03.480 man works i get that but i would still be open to doing like only fans working from home so i could

02:16:09.540 still be working from home or doing twitch from home like youtube i would love to just still work

02:16:14.280 from home you know what i mean well what is what is do you think the exchange is what does he get

02:16:19.740 um in exchange for you staying home um i mean i would just take care of him take care of the house

02:16:25.560 you know do whatever he needs whatever he asks i feel i feel like i'd still want to you know

02:16:30.720 whatever he asked i would do i want to do my part still it's not like i want him to just

02:16:34.620 be the only one bring bringing the money like that's why i'd still love to just work from home

02:16:38.660 and help you know i i'm a giver so i do what i can do you think that the kind of man who would

02:16:46.840 want you just to be a stay-at-home mom would want you to do only fans um it depends you know

02:16:52.460 with this day and age some guys don't care some do but i'm always i mean i mean most most men who

02:16:57.520 want to settle down and have a family probably wouldn't want that yeah and i feel like if i

02:17:01.300 were to have a family i wouldn't want to do only fans anymore because i feel like yeah and i would

02:17:05.080 stop dancing too if i were to settle down and have a family with somebody okay yeah and then also in

02:17:11.220 your notes you said that uh you said it's also fun to be the breadwinner you're used to being the one

02:17:16.440 who provides for the man in the relationship and you've been seeking a man who will provide

02:17:21.380 uh you've been keeping your options open and that's pretty much pretty much it uh you do you

02:17:28.420 speak cambodian i don't know i was adopted you were adopted okay yeah all right going to ali

02:17:34.240 ali here ali here i think your instagram there's a tagline it says wait oh okay never mind that's

02:17:42.020 something that's somebody else my bad you describe yourself as a polyamorous disabled queer woman

02:17:48.080 who used to run an all queer honey group indeed i did and you have so many stories what is first off

02:17:58.320 what is a uh honey group what is that was what they cumulatively named it it was just that like the

02:18:05.180 girls did not feel safe whenever cis men were in the group because a lot of them had trauma i had

02:18:12.000 a bunch of friends that uh i worked i've never been like a dancer like these lovely gals have

02:18:17.900 love that yeah never personally because like i just don't think that i could handle it but i was

02:18:23.820 a go-go dancer i met a bunch of girls that wanted like a community of queer women to hang out with

02:18:28.940 it's like a meetup group yeah meetup group you guys had a group how many people were in the group

02:18:33.220 queer honey bunny group i think the most that were ever in the group was 45 45 yeah okay i did you

02:18:40.060 mention something there that i uh kind of took a note on you said that a lot of these women they

02:18:44.980 had trauma with cis men so cis men were not obviously allowed to join the group that's my

02:18:49.400 understanding um do you think that this is uh uh granting that they had this trauma these poor

02:18:58.300 experiences with cis men which by the way well that's a whole nother con i'll save the cis conversation

02:19:03.060 for later i guess but um do you think that this is a sexist position to hold i think it could be i

02:19:10.880 think that just in my position it was asked of me that cis men were not included because it was to

02:19:15.540 find other queer women to hang out with like i don't think that all spaces need to include everyone

02:19:21.040 yeah sure i don't think uh like i think you could for example want to like associate with people of a

02:19:26.620 certain group uh it's it's you're not necessarily trying to preclude other people uh but the the

02:19:33.440 justification for precluding other people seems to be i had one two or perhaps multiple poor

02:19:39.440 experiences with cis men uh ergo it wasn't just personal experiences it was just like the

02:19:44.480 yeah the way well that's the first thing you said yes they've had a lot of them did but i'm just

02:19:49.680 saying it's not all just personal experience of of like a trauma happened to me but just like

02:19:55.080 movies portray men in dark shadows like if you want to go that deep of like not feeling safe in

02:19:59.900 a group like this group was meant for like women to come and have pool parties and we hosted going

02:20:05.900 to queer clubs and i just don't think that that number one would have fit in the space anyways but

02:20:10.900 also with the majority of women in my group and by majority i mean like everyone but maybe one

02:20:16.240 stating that they would not have felt safe to fully be themselves in that environment if a cis man was

02:20:21.720 there that speaks volumes to me and i didn't need to make a decision would you be

02:20:24.960 fine like with uh establishments also doing these kind of uh like uh exclusions like uh like a

02:20:32.100 like a business for example i think that's harder i think like how do you like what about the all

02:20:36.280 female gym and they're like hey we've we acknowledge that women have had poor experiences

02:20:40.440 with men so we're going to like exclude men from joining this gym and it's going to be an all women

02:20:44.760 gym like would you be okay with that or i don't think it's like any of my business to say whether

02:20:48.620 you can do it or not but i think if i were the business owner i don't know how you would pull

02:20:51.860 something like that off and still be inclusive like legally not legally just like respectfully

02:20:56.420 on like if someone comes into a gym and you bring in like you're bringing in all kinds of

02:21:00.220 conversations like a trans woman comes in like how do you define who a trans woman is if they say

02:21:05.300 they're trans women i work at a woman's gym what i work at a woman's gym yeah see i think it can be

02:21:11.740 done i just women at all right so i'm just going to go ahead and grant that if you were to start a

02:21:16.040 business you'd be allowed to have trans women i'm speaking about i personally don't like this term but

02:21:20.960 cis men oh yeah i think that that's fine why would it not be fine for the business to exclude cis men

02:21:27.460 yeah okay um and you so similarly then i assume you'd be fine with like businesses excluding cis women

02:21:33.860 like banning them from being able to enter businesses and establishments okay so you're

02:21:39.700 like in favor of segregation what about uh what about gay men say that again what about gay men

02:21:45.360 again you're coming down to like how are you going to define like weren't all queer clubs supposed

02:21:51.260 to be just for queer people but straight men still go into vet women well here here i'll define it

02:21:56.400 pretty easily uh if you're a part of a same-sex relationship and you're a male you can't thank

02:22:01.620 you for mansplaining that to me i appreciate it actually like so much how do you feel i don't

02:22:06.320 understand how do you say it depends on your definition and then when i give you the definition

02:22:09.800 you call it man no i'm saying like that can you i'm saying as a business owner when someone's coming

02:22:15.700 to your door and you're going to turn them away like based on xyz like that did you want the

02:22:20.580 definition or did you want to keep spurging out i mean i'm happy to give you the definition that

02:22:25.020 you asked for so the definition would be two males who are same sex for sure and they're all they

02:22:31.740 only have sex with males you call them homosexuals and you want to ban them from the business there you

02:22:36.260 go there's your definition i'm sorry that i had to mansplain that for you giving you the definition

02:22:40.820 that you asked for but there you go if if cumulatively gay men which i'm not saying they have or will

02:22:47.140 um created an unsafe environment for the other people who wanted to be in that business then i

02:22:52.220 would agree with it so if they have straight heterosexual cis males said nobody except straight

02:22:58.680 heterosexual cis males can come to this gym you would agree with that

02:23:01.720 yes wasn't that what you just asked me well i'm just clarifying i just wanted a yes or no so i mean

02:23:09.700 so as as long as you're fine with that then the inclusivity uh portion of this if men wanted to have

02:23:16.760 a gym um that was only exclusive to um heteronormative behavior you wouldn't actually have an issue with

02:23:24.340 that i just want to just want to be clear i think that that's cornering someone into an answer that's

02:23:29.580 super controversial it like it comes down to like what is the cause what is the reason is it for

02:23:35.040 safety because they don't want them there is it for safety or is it to be an asshole sure sure just

02:23:40.760 just dealing with them could potentially create an unsafe situation for both parties right

02:23:44.600 like if you were a bigot like just think about this logically let's say that they were all just

02:23:48.720 bigots they just actually just didn't like them because they were homosexuals how would that not

02:23:55.420 create an unsafe situation by letting them in to begin with i just don't think that you can

02:24:02.220 cumulatively have that many people unless you're like exclusively asking for it to be invited into

02:24:06.680 a space like you're you're assuming that every man in a gym is going to be a bigot are you just

02:24:11.920 saying that there's a bigot gym well no i'm saying that there's a let's say there's a gym which is

02:24:17.120 bigoted on purpose because that's what they want but they only want bigoted they only want

02:24:22.800 bigoted people to come to this gym that's the only thing that they care about is that you're uh what

02:24:28.260 you would consider to be a bigot they only want heteronormative cis straight men in the gym

02:24:33.760 that's it okay so so if that was the case and all of the men who are joining that gym have the same

02:24:40.940 type of ideology wouldn't it necessarily follow that it would be unsafe for somebody who didn't

02:24:46.180 follow that suit that they would be unsafe just by trying to join it yeah i hear you and i mean like

02:24:51.960 if they all want to meet up in one space and have that opinion for themselves then they can go for

02:24:56.440 it i don't want to be there so a couple things a couple clarifying things i guess um would you

02:25:06.700 it sounds like you're kind of okay with people like business owners being able to like discriminate

02:25:11.160 is that a fair to discriminate no to create safe environments yes okay so like do you and so this

02:25:19.680 for gender you think this is fair fair play correct can i ask you a question a follow-up question can i

02:25:25.360 answer your question with a question because you seem to do how about answer my question then you

02:25:28.220 can ask me a question and i'll answer your question no is there a reason why you're trying to corner me

02:25:31.900 into having a negative answer because you did at the beginning of our conversation too i how is it

02:25:36.500 cornering you and what do you mean by negative answer every time i answer it was like a logical

02:25:41.060 standpoint of like women should us women should all cumulatively be able to feel safe in

02:25:47.360 environment if we require being only with women then isn't that just for safety like i don't

02:25:56.240 understand the issue okay he's testing the supposition yeah so i mean i don't think it's

02:26:02.000 i'm not sure what you mean by cornering but no i just mean like every time i have a logical

02:26:07.000 answer there's a follow-up question with like when people the word segregation put into it when

02:26:11.600 people make um or have uh inductive reasoning which you're using right now which is fine

02:26:16.440 right that's most most of the reasoning that most people use is inductive um most of the time it's

02:26:23.020 not tested but most inductive reasoning is based around suppositions and suppositions which people

02:26:28.580 hold so all that's happening when you say why are you trying to corner me into a negative answer

02:26:34.380 that's the opposite like i just want to know hang on hang on hang on almost done that's the opposite

02:26:40.680 of what's happening he's trying to corner you into an answer but it's negative or positive

02:26:44.700 it's totally irrelevant just trying to see where the inductive reasoning follows

02:26:48.380 great um but so i think i i was asking a question there um it sounded like you didn't want to answer

02:26:57.920 it unless you do like am i fine with businesses choosing who they want to do business for yes okay you're

02:27:04.100 fine with that so like for example let's and you said for safety reasons like that's enough

02:27:07.940 justification for like wanting to preclude people from being able to participate in your business

02:27:14.680 can you can you stop

02:27:16.860 sure okay so if uh like a cohort or group of like white people for example felt unsafe around black

02:27:25.620 people because they had anecdotal like they had their own poor experiences that came down to safety

02:27:31.980 when it came to uh like actual experiences with black people and they said i don't want to allow

02:27:37.140 black people into my businesses you'd be okay with that morally okay with it no do i think that it

02:27:42.980 could happen law and morals are very different right yeah i agree with that why would it be immoral

02:27:49.720 though what do you mean why would that be i mean i was literally told i was not allowed to say

02:27:54.960 certain words so oh well i mean it's more so like there's certain topics we have to avoid but like

02:28:00.240 we can talk about racism we just don't want you to be racist on the show understood if that makes

02:28:05.940 sense yeah yeah why i'm just wondering why like we won't we don't want you to use slurs or like say

02:28:10.580 the n-word or like that sort of stuff so sure i didn't hear what you said i'm sorry oh yeah no

02:28:15.400 no problem so um i understand too when you have a video link like this it's difficult uh sometimes when

02:28:21.540 you have a room full of people to communicate back and forth so uh that's actually a problem i have too

02:28:26.080 uh but my question was uh why would that be actually a moral quandary for you if you if you

02:28:32.220 don't have any actual um you know issues with it as a matter of law let's say why would it why would

02:28:37.560 it actually stand as a moral quandary because there's a racial issue there well it's just wouldn't

02:28:44.480 it be like a gender or sex issue then for sure but what you're saying is like oh we have quantified

02:28:50.660 proof we have quantified evidence i'm putting this evidence in front of you why black people have

02:28:55.060 made this group of white people feel unsafe right sure okay yeah what if you open up your

02:29:01.120 viewpoint and you look at the masses what if you say instead of looking at this group of people

02:29:06.160 that chose it scientifically you can't just hand pick which group you want to use as a control right

02:29:11.600 so if you're looking at everyone in the united states for example that's not the popular opinion

02:29:17.940 so then i would say that that's not i don't i don't morally agree this would be counter to

02:29:24.820 intersectionality though because intersectionality is literally making all of these groups into

02:29:30.140 micro groups as controls just so that they can test for such offenses so if that is the case uh

02:29:37.000 yeah but in this hypothetical referring to people who know each other right we're having this conversation

02:29:41.180 i couldn't actually think of a way that you could create controls better than to take micro groups

02:29:47.680 and then apply whatever the idea of social injustice that particular group has and then um you know

02:29:55.400 follow it to its conclusion essentially like how else could you even do that as a control by choosing

02:30:00.900 controls that don't know each other because in the hypothetical is that this group of people got

02:30:05.040 together which means they okay well let's say they didn't get together right but they all had

02:30:10.600 kind of something of the same shared experience and they all wanted to get together like it it seems

02:30:16.620 like it's a kind of a silly distinction without merit right not necessarily if you're asking me how to

02:30:22.340 find a control that's going back to the other conversation right yeah yeah but i mean even this

02:30:27.160 if we if we have this as a control we could just we i mean we could just factor in whatever control

02:30:31.460 you wanted to it still wouldn't really get to the heart of the moral quandary if if one race or

02:30:37.900 another race says they feel discriminated against based on a b c and d it's opinion based yeah i get

02:30:43.140 what you're saying i mean i totally hear your opinion i i i hear you however i think like when

02:30:50.000 you're getting down to like morality i don't think that anything should be separated i don't think that

02:30:54.900 anyone should fear for their life when they walk or roll down the street i don't think that

02:30:58.340 you know any of this should be a topic of conversation because nobody should be put in a position where

02:31:04.200 they have to choose but we have yeah but you're but but what you're going off of isn't even brute

02:31:11.500 facts it's just feelings right so you're going off the idea people feel unsafe they feel like bad

02:31:17.240 things going to happen even if there is actually no kind of statistical data to back that up but

02:31:22.040 that's a double-edged sword why couldn't the other group say the exact same thing in opposition

02:31:25.700 i didn't this makes this makes us feel unsafe this makes us feel discriminated against etc etc it'd be the

02:31:31.940 same exact thing for sure i hear what you're saying however again it comes down to like history

02:31:38.040 and facts and whenever you add the two together i create emotion you create emotion emotions don't

02:31:43.720 just fly at you and hit you in the head like they come from a place based in fact based in history

02:31:50.280 whether that's yesterday or a place based in fact that's no i'm saying it's you don't just get an

02:31:56.320 emotion because it whacks you in the head it comes from somewhere you have something that influences

02:32:00.300 you and then you have an emotion i'm just saying or you have nothing that influences you and you have

02:32:05.460 an emotion because biology is strange right so it's like even even that statement in and of itself is

02:32:10.940 kind of silly but if you if you were to back it up right and look at uh because what you're what

02:32:16.960 you're saying is let's look at the macro versus the micro i think that's fair right i think that that's

02:32:21.440 fair to say i want to look at kind of all the entire picture instead of the micro picture

02:32:26.860 but that would the only way to get a clear picture of the macro would be for you to use

02:32:33.260 intersectional logic right so you would have to come in and say this group and this group and this

02:32:38.060 even in fact when you even reference historical standards you could only apply them through the

02:32:43.420 prism of the group that's that would be like feminist standpoint theory for instance feminists say

02:32:48.280 well history should be revised through the lens of women otherwise how could you really know what

02:32:54.100 their lived experience was but wouldn't that be the same case with any group i mean i guess it could

02:33:00.140 be it just comes down to like when you're asking my opinion i base it off of supporting what has

02:33:09.060 happened again you can go down to intersectionality and crossover and this and that and for each and

02:33:16.080 every scenario that you could come up with i'm going to tell you like if it creates

02:33:19.300 a safe environment where there already was not one more power to you do i want to be a part of

02:33:25.180 all of those situations most likely not but would you only my follow-up question to this then is would

02:33:31.680 you only base that around how people felt if they felt safe versus if there was an objective standard

02:33:38.920 no and that's why i was saying like i understand if you were to say okay so if that's the case then

02:33:43.340 if there were such a discriminatory gym let's say who only discriminated against people who were

02:33:49.980 lgbtq in this in this particular instance and the lgbtq people felt unsafe due to that however the brute

02:33:59.180 fact was not that they were actually unsafe then who do we side with there i don't think you side with

02:34:06.480 anyone i think that you don't think so i listen to side with one side on on any situation you can

02:34:17.900 give me i don't agree with i think that you should put yourself in each and everyone's shoes not to say

02:34:23.160 i could ever actually know what that person is going through but the only way we're going to find

02:34:26.900 any kind of unity any kind of you know level common ground is by trying to start to understand other

02:34:34.040 people's lived experiences yeah sure but but what if you do understand their lived experience

02:34:39.480 i don't think you can truly understand even based on your even based on your lived experience and what

02:34:43.780 you're telling me from your emotional standpoint still reject it because applied in the real world

02:34:48.440 doesn't make any sense or it's silly or i just have a fundamental disagreement with it the idea that

02:34:54.280 you can just kind of uh partake in someone's shoes and then through an empathetic link uh discover

02:35:00.820 that you have more shared in common than not i think that there's some possibility there however

02:35:05.460 i also think that there's good logical refutations that you can make for why you should often ignore

02:35:11.860 the empathetic experience and ignore why it is that people want you to walk a mile in their shoes

02:35:17.740 it's often detrimental to you to do so right that's your opinion you don't think so i think that it could be

02:35:25.680 in a scenario if you gave them what i agreed with but like i can't just blanketly agree with a vague

02:35:31.120 scenario well here's a good example of it let's take a principle that you're talking about here which

02:35:36.880 is a harm principle based around safety if you were to say for instance uh so i'm an orthodox christian

02:35:44.000 if you were to say that uh andrew it causes great harm for you to not use a person's gendered pronouns

02:35:51.760 it causes them harm causes them some degree of suffering and some degree of discomfort

02:35:56.960 i could equally counter with but as an orthodox christian it causes me a great degree of discomfort

02:36:02.720 to lie to them because from my world view that's exactly what i'm doing now in this case you have

02:36:08.080 to put yourself in my shoes and empathize with me while i empathize with you who do we side with here

02:36:14.160 i

02:36:19.360 if you're an orthodox christian isn't there something that says that you should love others equally and

02:36:26.320 not judge yeah isn't that the same harm you're doing to yourself no first of all yeah of course

02:36:30.800 you can righteously judge this is a biblical principle and without righteous judgment you could

02:36:35.680 never actually do a condemnation of sin ever so you have to have righteous judgment but not only that

02:36:41.520 that's the idea here is even if this was the case that um that that you're supposed to show love and

02:36:49.440 you are it's not unloving to tell the truth and from the prism of the christian they believe they're

02:36:56.480 telling the truth and that you're lying and demanding they lie that's their lived experience that's

02:37:04.640 their world view okay if that's their lived world view then i would say for that person to exit the

02:37:11.360 scenario that's when you walk away you don't cause any kind of hoopla and you just go because you can't

02:37:16.160 change everyone's opinion you can't change everyone hang on see what i mean why don't they go that's

02:37:20.480 what i'm referring to yeah they go so so in in the case of a oh you're in a convenience store or

02:37:27.120 something like this okay somebody says somebody says it's ma'am and you say no it's sir why are they

02:37:33.680 wrong in their own opinion they're not wrong and i get what you're getting at i get what you're

02:37:42.000 getting at but telling them to leave now you're opening a whole other book do we well who do we

02:37:45.840 side with i don't know i i feel like this is such a controversial thing you're trying to get into that

02:37:52.080 like as a christian how is it more important to you to not lie than to be a kind human and

02:37:59.040 not harm others well you're you're asking for a conflict in principle why that's what i'm saying

02:38:05.200 why can't i say that i think it's the greatest kindness not to lie to individuals and so i don't

02:38:10.480 and this upholds the christian ethics and principles but from your world view you say but

02:38:15.440 andrew this does harm to us because so it can i pause you i have actually done almost done because

02:38:20.720 it makes us feel bad makes us feel terrible this type of thing it's like that's fair but i still

02:38:26.080 need to know how do we how do we decide these threshold breakers exactly okay i have genuinely

02:38:31.840 a question i would love to hear your answer on your say your religion again can you answer mine and then

02:38:38.480 i'll answer yours that's fine but i okay answer mine and then i'll answer yours that's fair who should

02:38:44.160 i side with i don't have an answer i think each each person is on their own side and if i were to walk in

02:38:49.760 personally me myself in that scenario i would diffuse the situation because neither one is

02:38:55.600 going to change either person's mind you are entitled to your own opinion how do you diffuse it

02:39:01.520 go up and actually be a kind human being and say hey i totally get that you guys have differences

02:39:05.200 here but let's just walk away yeah there's literally no point in continuing having confrontation

02:39:10.720 like that other than to cause a scene so i well i mean so you your expectations as if people are still

02:39:16.720 going to get along well even though one demands that the other from their worldview lies to them

02:39:21.440 i never said you had to get along the other one demand from their their worldview that you what you

02:39:26.240 need to tell me is what i consider the truth to be i never said that you had to get along hold on wait

02:39:30.960 you want to you want to cut me off when you're talking then i if i have space to answer your question

02:39:35.840 i never said that they had to get along i said diffuse the situation and separate because i don't think

02:39:40.880 that every opinion has to mesh with every opinion you walk away and you let it be so then the ultimate

02:39:46.960 the kind of the ultimate logical entailment here is the idea that groups should segregate from each

02:39:52.000 other if you choose to not be a part of a group that's your choice yeah i know but the ultimate

02:39:59.760 entailment of your logic here is that groups should actually segregate away from each other

02:40:03.120 because you say there's no answer to these questions no i think that people who have conflict

02:40:07.920 if they come into contact no that's not true some people are assholes and some people aren't

02:40:12.560 some people can turn a blind eye and say have a nice day and just not use a gender

02:40:16.880 you can just not use a gender situation you could just not show in this situation tell me

02:40:23.760 who's the asshole in this situation you know who the asshole is in this situation no i don't i

02:40:27.680 want you to tell me who's the asshole in this situation the asshole in the situation is the one

02:40:31.440 who's provoking the person who's literally done nothing wrong well which one is that

02:40:37.920 Jesus Christ.

02:40:41.020 Yeah, you don't know, right?

02:40:42.580 This is the whole problem with intersectionality.

02:40:44.820 This is the whole problem with the foolishness of this ideology.

02:40:48.220 The entailment of it is always that it's going to lead to we can't actually,

02:40:54.880 if we're going to only use empathy as a metric, or even empathy plus brute facts,

02:41:00.960 and you say, well, give me a specific example, Andrew,

02:41:03.180 where we're going to end up coming into conflict.

02:41:05.860 Well, now I've just given you an example of two different groups

02:41:08.120 who have two different ideologies.

02:41:09.660 Great, okay.

02:41:10.360 I will answer your question.

02:41:11.860 In that scenario, the one who continues to provoke is the asshole,

02:41:14.760 even if that is the person who has the different gender and you do not agree with them.

02:41:18.020 If they're coming up to you and they're being a complete piece of shit and causing a scene,

02:41:21.020 then I would tell you that that person is the asshole.

02:41:23.480 Yeah, but you've got a problem with that, too,

02:41:25.200 which is that what is considered a provocation cannot be what is true.

02:41:29.680 So if that is the case, both think they're telling the truth.

02:41:33.180 The one says, I'm not provoking you.

02:41:35.680 I'm not referring to what I think the truth is.

02:41:37.100 Hang on, hang on.

02:41:37.880 I just let you answer.

02:41:39.060 Let me answer.

02:41:40.540 So if the idea here is the one says to them, listen, I'm not provoking.

02:41:46.700 I'm just demanding basic human respect that they don't misgender me.

02:41:50.560 The other one says, I'm not provoking.

02:41:52.220 I'm just demanding that you don't say that I must lie because you're provoking.

02:41:56.460 In this particular case, you consider neither of those or both of them to be provocations.

02:42:05.120 In this scenario, if they're having a calm conversation, they're having a debate about who's right and who's wrong.

02:42:11.380 And they can finally, isn't that what you just described?

02:42:14.500 One's saying I'm right and the other one's saying I'm right.

02:42:16.920 Are they having a pissing fight, whatever you want to call it?

02:42:19.720 Yeah, let's say you're just in a grocery store.

02:42:22.960 And let's say the Orthodox Christian in this case looks over and he says something like this.

02:42:29.400 Hello, sir, you want me to grab that for you?

02:42:32.760 The person they're talking to looks over and says, actually, I'm a woman.

02:42:37.480 Okay, so I'd appreciate if you addressed me as ma'am.

02:42:40.560 Okay.

02:42:41.800 The Orthodox Christian says, well, I'm not going to do that because I don't believe that you are this thing that you're claiming you are.

02:42:48.360 Not from my worldview.

02:42:49.620 And the other one says, but I am from my worldview.

02:42:53.220 Your reconciliation for this situation is separation.

02:42:57.220 If that is the case, then the advocation would ultimately be segregation.

02:43:03.720 That's a stretch.

02:43:04.680 But my opinion is that...

02:43:05.800 How is it a stretch?

02:43:06.560 Okay.

02:43:07.140 Do I get to answer?

02:43:08.080 Like with a full sentence?

02:43:09.080 Go ahead.

02:43:09.540 Before you.

02:43:10.300 Okay, great.

02:43:12.700 What you're implying is that someone needs to win in this scenario, right?

02:43:18.100 Like someone needs to come out on top or we need to segregate them.

02:43:23.440 Yes?

02:43:24.960 Well, I don't know how you reconcile it.

02:43:27.020 If one feels like they don't have basic human respect or dignity from the one group,

02:43:31.540 and the other group feels like they're not getting the basic respect and dignity due to their group

02:43:36.700 because they're being told they must lie,

02:43:39.740 how exactly do you expect to reconcile that?

02:43:41.940 I don't think all things need reconciliation, especially in a grocery store when you're just minding your business.

02:43:46.400 It is not segregation when you have free speech and you can just say what you want to say in a grocery store.

02:43:49.760 Well, what else would it be?

02:43:51.240 How else would they get on then?

02:43:53.200 They move on with their lives and they forget about it.

02:43:55.780 Yeah, okay.

02:43:56.400 But if you're in various communities, you have various communities where you have various people in them,

02:44:01.780 the idea here is that you're saying neither side is wrong.

02:44:07.140 Neither side is wrong.

02:44:08.420 Both sides are right.

02:44:10.200 Because neither...

02:44:11.160 They're both right.

02:44:13.060 So they can't necessarily, if they're both right, right,

02:44:17.000 then both of them have a leg to stand on in order to make their case that they deserve to be able to say what is true from their different perspective.

02:44:25.020 That's necessarily going to lead to conflict.

02:44:26.980 And you just said the whole point here...

02:44:28.700 I just don't think it should always lead to conflict.

02:44:30.980 I think that there's just some things that we have differences about.

02:44:34.100 And instead of creating conflict, you can just have differences.

02:44:39.280 Yeah, but what if those...

02:44:41.000 Like in this scenario, you are the issue.

02:44:43.080 You are persisting on creating conflict when I, in my scenario, in the same example you're giving me,

02:44:48.960 if I were the person, if I did identify as something I was not born as,

02:44:53.980 I would politely just say thank you for your help, but I actually have to go.

02:44:58.700 And now I've defused the situation.

02:45:00.480 You asked me how I would defuse it.

02:45:01.760 Boom, done.

02:45:02.340 Yeah, sure.

02:45:02.780 But have you had your basic human dignity in some way violated?

02:45:08.100 If it were me personally, no.

02:45:09.620 Because this human being is never going to see me again if I have anything to do with it.

02:45:13.740 Perhaps not you.

02:45:14.400 But you would say that most people who are in that situation would at least feel that way.

02:45:18.980 Mm-hmm.

02:45:20.000 Yeah.

02:45:20.360 So, I mean, if they do, then why would they want to subject themselves to that all the time from this group?

02:45:26.180 They clearly wouldn't.

02:45:27.380 They would try to what?

02:45:28.720 Probably, oh, I don't know, separate themselves from it.

02:45:31.540 Yeah.

02:45:31.660 I'm impressed with the way that you can work around words.

02:45:38.080 However, I still don't believe that it's segregation.

02:45:41.960 I believe that there are differences in all humans, and you want to talk about, like,

02:45:45.140 the basis of America, we can get real deep into that shit.

02:45:47.000 All you're doing is changing the argument instead of answering to it.

02:45:51.000 I did answer it.

02:45:51.700 Neither one is wrong, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and there is no conflict

02:45:56.280 unless you create it.

02:45:57.420 Yeah, well, while I appreciate the compliment of me being such a fine wordsmith, I feel

02:46:03.620 like I'm dumbing this down quite a bit, make sure that we can get the actual answer.

02:46:07.800 I gave you the answer.

02:46:09.200 The idea here is, like, but I don't believe that.

02:46:12.380 But when you say, I don't believe that, but at the same time, you feel like almost everybody

02:46:15.980 in that group would feel like they had their basic kind of human dignity violated in some

02:46:19.920 way.

02:46:20.760 So the order of the day in order to not create conflict would be to separate themselves from

02:46:25.220 those people.

02:46:26.040 No.

02:46:26.280 I don't know.

02:46:27.240 Well, then how exactly would you deal with it without having your human dignity violated?

02:46:33.600 I don't actually get that.

02:46:34.820 Do you genuinely think that humans as a whole can go throughout life without becoming offended

02:46:40.640 in some way or having their basic dignity violated?

02:46:43.480 Because you're referring to Christianity and their belief system, so you're having your

02:46:48.880 belief system violated.

02:46:50.620 So your dignity, in other words, is you've strung them together.

02:46:54.040 Yeah, and that necessarily creates conflict.

02:46:56.860 Dignity is violated.

02:46:57.500 Because you've created conflict out of it.

02:46:59.180 That's what I'm saying.

02:46:59.820 I just don't think that the two have to coincide.

02:47:01.120 Well, it's not as creating conflict out of it.

02:47:02.360 It's that you can't always walk away.

02:47:04.240 You can, actually.

02:47:05.360 When your dignity is being violated, right?

02:47:07.420 Maybe you are incapable of walking away whenever your dignity is violated, but when mine is,

02:47:11.840 because it happens all the time.

02:47:13.640 It comes with the chair.

02:47:14.460 Yeah.

02:47:14.680 It comes with the hair.

02:47:15.560 It comes with people calling me it, as they did at the beginning of the show.

02:47:17.980 So I take grace, and I say, have a very nice day.

02:47:22.800 No, I don't.

02:47:23.900 Me, personally.

02:47:24.740 Wait, what are you going to do?

02:47:25.680 Hang on.

02:47:26.020 What's your answer?

02:47:26.760 You're going to do what?

02:47:28.040 I would diffuse that part of the conversation.

02:47:30.260 Now, if you're talking about actually separating, I don't.

02:47:33.320 I spoke in my town.

02:47:35.140 How would you diffuse it?

02:47:35.160 I'm walking away, right?

02:47:35.900 Oh, okay.

02:47:36.780 Are you ready?

02:47:37.940 Yeah.

02:47:38.180 How would you diffuse it?

02:47:39.020 You would walk away, yeah.

02:47:39.920 From that specific situation, with that specific conversation, and that specific person, yes.

02:47:45.460 From that person as a whole, from that person as a whole, no.

02:47:49.280 I would also be open to having wholesome conversations about religion.

02:47:54.300 If you yourself would want to separate yourself from that situation in order to avoid conflict,

02:48:01.100 it stands to reason that most people in your situation would want to do the same thing.

02:48:04.460 If this is a case that they want to separate themselves, which has been my point the entire time, right,

02:48:10.400 why in the future would they want to engage with the same person who's not going to back off on their laurels of,

02:48:16.320 no, I won't lie to you?

02:48:18.000 To create change.

02:48:20.060 To create opinionated change.

02:48:21.660 Because I think that you're running on the basis that it is wrong for you to lie.

02:48:27.260 It is wrong for someone to ask you to lie, right?

02:48:29.700 Right.

02:48:30.100 Okay, so if you and I were sitting in a room and having a conversation one-on-one as human beings speaking about the human existence,

02:48:38.120 I think that I would want to open up conversations like why you feel that way

02:48:42.080 and why you feel the need to present your opinion as the dominant and correct opinion

02:48:49.000 instead of being a kind human person.

02:48:51.620 I think that creating space between people is only going to create conflict.

02:48:57.400 But there's immediately great conflict in and of itself.

02:49:01.020 You done?

02:49:01.640 Okay, great.

02:49:02.260 So can I finish?

02:49:03.000 Because you did that to me.

02:49:03.760 Well, is it going to take you forever to finish?

02:49:05.980 It took you forever to finish.

02:49:07.460 It didn't take me very long.

02:49:09.620 If you want to recap on the conversation, you've had far more speaking time than me.

02:49:12.580 I've been very courteous to you.

02:49:14.180 Okay.

02:49:15.220 For sure.

02:49:15.780 Yeah.

02:49:16.680 I just think that you enjoy...

02:49:17.400 You should just calm down and we can finish the conversation.

02:49:21.200 Go ahead.

02:49:23.300 Oh, dear Lord.

02:49:24.080 I think that you are incapable of not using this scenario without conflict.

02:49:30.420 No, I'm saying that the entailment of the scenario itself is conflict.

02:49:35.480 How?

02:49:36.780 Well, because we have two ideologies where both believe that their dignity is being violated

02:49:42.660 just in the form of communicating with each other, just in the form of communication itself.

02:49:47.840 Well, then the only answer to not create conflict in the form of communication would be to not communicate.

02:49:54.560 If you can give me a way to reconcile that, I'm all ears.

02:50:00.260 Have more open communication.

02:50:01.920 Have a more open mind.

02:50:02.920 But other than that, literally what you're saying is the assumption, the assumption, the assumption.

02:50:06.980 You're assuming that these two ideologies create conflict because they feel like their dignity is being compromised.

02:50:15.860 But that is a very specific scenario.

02:50:17.720 I don't feel like my dignity is being compromised.

02:50:20.660 The one that you asked for was a specific scenario and I gave it to you.

02:50:22.020 That's fine.

02:50:22.640 I get that.

02:50:23.260 So that you can understand the distinctions and why it is that necessarily you're going to have two ideologies consistently which come together,

02:50:30.940 which cannot reconcile worldviews together, that ultimately your answer to this is indeed separation, even from yourself.

02:50:41.120 Your idea of defusing such scenarios would be separation.

02:50:44.980 Immediate defuse.

02:50:46.780 I need you guys to make one final point on this.

02:50:49.760 Go ahead.

02:50:50.760 I'll just let her point stand.

02:50:52.700 Go ahead.

02:50:54.480 How kind.

02:50:54.920 And I think that if you're trying to get to the point of would I leave initially, yes.

02:51:04.260 Overall, no.

02:51:05.800 I would not separate myself from the person permanently.

02:51:10.300 In other words, segregate myself from this person just because they have different views than me.

02:51:14.500 No.

02:51:15.320 Except immediately you would.

02:51:17.320 To defuse the.

02:51:18.680 Okay.

02:51:19.280 That's like the first response is the thing that you would do.

02:51:21.680 But okay.

02:51:23.140 All right.

02:51:23.680 I'm trying to think if I have any other questions on that.

02:51:27.120 Otherwise, I'll move it on to some of the more different pre-show notes.

02:51:31.680 I did.

02:51:32.500 You mentioned the word mansplaining.

02:51:34.000 You accused Andrew of mansplaining.

02:51:36.560 What is mansplaining?

02:51:39.860 It's a slang term.

02:51:42.620 I just used it specifically because when I asked, it was very, very, very specific down to like the definition of my word is what he gave me.

02:51:50.740 And it was very, in my opinion, obvious that that's not what I meant.

02:51:55.240 But why fix man before?

02:51:57.260 It seems like there's a bit of a negative connotation.

02:51:59.200 Maybe I shouldn't use that word anymore.

02:52:00.840 Like if, like she elaborating.

02:52:02.760 Do you find this?

02:52:03.760 I love that word.

02:52:04.620 You like she elaborating.

02:52:06.100 Okay.

02:52:07.000 Womansplaining.

02:52:07.500 Would you find this objectionable here?

02:52:09.280 I think they're all just words.

02:52:10.640 And sometimes we need to just not be as offended as sometimes we get.

02:52:14.900 I don't think it's that big of a deal.

02:52:16.800 Personally, I don't think that we should hold that much value into the word mansplaining and womansplaining.

02:52:22.220 But people use it in a demonized way.

02:52:24.840 So then it's dickish.

02:52:26.480 You know, I tend to agree with you.

02:52:28.040 But it's like the sort of the current social climate from the side that would use this word seems to take great issue with the way language is used.

02:52:38.800 So if they were a bit more, I guess, relaxed when it came to choice of words, perhaps they wouldn't get so much pushback when they use words themselves that are that perhaps the group that they often target finds objectionable.

02:52:56.520 So do you feel like tell him he was mansplaining?

02:52:59.660 I did tell him he was mansplaining after she's also saying that just like she was like using it as a term like we are trying to make it more.

02:53:07.460 We're taking it too seriously.

02:53:08.560 Anyways, you're about to say you're about to say something.

02:53:10.520 I misunderstood.

02:53:11.120 You're about to say something.

02:53:11.840 It was about that.

02:53:12.800 Just that like in this scenario, the provoker in from my perspective, and these ladies can speak on that if they want to, if you need it to not just be from me, was that when I said a word,

02:53:23.320 he gave me the literal definition of the word in an extremely sarcastic tone to provoke me, which I had an issue with.

02:53:32.120 Sure, we can get into that in just a sec, but you were about to say something before she answered.

02:53:35.400 That's what I was going to say.

02:53:35.680 That was what you were about to say?

02:53:37.220 Okay.

02:53:38.100 So essentially he provoked you.

02:53:40.100 He used the definition of a word to provoke me, to be sarcastic, to get a literalness.

02:53:45.400 I don't know if that was his actual intention, but in any case, that's the way you took it though.

02:53:48.640 Yes, and that's why I used that word.

02:53:49.920 So the thing is, is when you're talking to people, when you're a conversationalist, and I think I would probably reckon myself as being one because it seems to be part of my primary profession to have conversations.

02:54:03.840 I think it's really important that you're very clear on terms that you use, and people often ask for definitions for things in order to get clarity, and I understand why.

02:54:12.160 It's because in the commons, the way that we think of things is different than the way we think of things academically or for specific instances.

02:54:20.420 So religious speak, for instance, is going to have its own lingo.

02:54:23.680 Things like spiritual is going to mean something different to a Christian than it would be to a Reikist, for instance.

02:54:29.200 And so precision in language that way, I think, is super important.

02:54:32.860 And legitimately, when you asked for a definition, I thought you were asking me for one.

02:54:38.460 No, and I think that there was another misconception there.

02:54:40.860 I said, how do you define it?

02:54:42.300 And I was referring to the person entering the business.

02:54:44.960 But we can just move forward.

02:54:47.120 It was just a misunderstanding.

02:54:49.740 I mean, yeah, on your part.

02:54:51.540 You should apologize.

02:54:52.300 Ogle donated $200.

02:54:55.320 Chair one, I would not separate, segregate myself from a group of people.

02:54:59.700 Also, chair one, I would never date a cis male.

02:55:04.400 There's another one coming in.

02:55:05.480 Okay.

02:55:06.040 What about my lived experience?

02:55:08.600 Also, I'm sorry, but dating someone and being around them is two different things.

02:55:11.860 I'm in the same room with what I assume to be a cis male.

02:55:16.120 He can correct me if I'm wrong.

02:55:18.320 That's not equivalent to dating them.

02:55:20.760 No one donated $200.

02:55:24.920 Yeah, actually, I was going to ask him out afterwards.

02:55:26.660 Do I sense chemistry between chair one and Andrew?

02:55:28.260 Is there a little chemistry?

02:55:29.340 Yeah, I was going to ask you out afterwards.

02:55:30.780 You've changed my mind about men.

02:55:34.260 That's Andrew, by the way.

02:55:35.620 What about my apology, though?

02:55:38.000 The empathy towards my lived experience of being told that I was a mansplainer just for trying to have precision in language.

02:55:44.580 It wasn't very nice or kind or empathetic of you.

02:55:48.340 And it hurt my feelings.

02:55:49.520 Don't you think he owed me an apology?

02:55:53.340 If you used a different tone of voice instead of trying to prove your point, maybe.

02:55:56.960 Do you genuinely feel offended by what I've said?

02:55:59.580 I genuinely feel offended.

02:56:00.980 Then I'm very sorry for offending you.

02:56:03.400 Ah, gotcha.

02:56:04.180 I'm glad you're fucking so you deserve to be seen.

02:56:06.100 I'm kidding.

02:56:06.400 I'm joking.

02:56:07.040 I'm joking.

02:56:07.600 It was funny.

02:56:08.160 I'm joking.

02:56:08.720 I'm kidding.

02:56:09.180 We'll go on a date after this.

02:56:10.620 I wanted there to be a little levity, a little bit of levity.

02:56:13.320 Yeah.

02:56:13.820 I look forward to our date.

02:56:14.860 And just a final thing on this, then I'm going to get into the other notes here.

02:56:18.800 The term cis, right?

02:56:23.960 I find this term offensive.

02:56:25.860 Okay.

02:56:26.160 Would you be willing to discontinue knowing, perhaps you've never heard this from a, at

02:56:32.000 least what you would view as a cis male.

02:56:33.840 Let's get split going.

02:56:37.360 Would you consider stopping this use entirely now that you've heard from somebody who actually

02:56:42.580 is cis, that they find this term offensive?

02:56:46.180 Can I answer in two parts?

02:56:48.260 Sure.

02:56:48.880 No, I wouldn't.

02:56:50.040 And I think that whenever people decide that words should just be taken away because they

02:56:54.920 are offensive, you don't get to just choose that unless you have other parties coming

02:56:59.580 in and saying, hey, this has, you know, been extremely offensive to this group of people

02:57:05.060 historically, that that's much different than being like, I don't like that words and

02:57:08.080 it offended me.

02:57:08.720 So you should just never say it again.

02:57:10.040 Historically.

02:57:10.240 And that goes into a bunch of other things.

02:57:11.680 Like, I just don't think that.

02:57:13.520 How long has the term cis been around?

02:57:15.680 Oh no.

02:57:16.020 I was referring to how long has that made people offended?

02:57:19.520 Well, I mean, if the word has only been around for a finite period of time, a limited period

02:57:24.240 of time.

02:57:25.760 Do you have other people that are offended?

02:57:27.200 Hold on.

02:57:27.640 You got to let me finish.

02:57:28.460 That would encompass the history of the world, the word.

02:57:31.760 I actually personally do not know how long would you like to bring up how long it's been

02:57:36.240 around?

02:57:36.640 It seems like it's maybe less than a decade.

02:57:39.040 It seems like it's been in use.

02:57:40.300 In terms of like, it's common use.

02:57:45.020 It would occur to me that I first heard it coming into use probably in the past 10 years.

02:57:51.980 Is that maybe because you didn't surround yourself with those who use the word or would

02:57:56.200 you like to use Google and see how long it's been around?

02:58:00.080 Well, perhaps it's been around longer.

02:58:01.420 But I mean, if a word's been used by five people and the population of the United States

02:58:06.740 is over 300 million, like I don't really see how.

02:58:09.180 Is there data to back that?

02:58:10.740 I'm not saying it actually was five people.

02:58:13.700 I'm just using the example.

02:58:15.100 You get my point.

02:58:16.580 No, I don't actually get your point.

02:58:18.680 But there's plenty more who have used that word.

02:58:21.020 And it's just coming down to a specific, again, that you're saying you only feel like it's

02:58:25.700 been brought up so long ago.

02:58:27.360 Andrew, do you know what the rates of, I mean, is this not, this is typically a term that relates

02:58:34.220 to like transgender people, right?

02:58:36.880 Cis?

02:58:37.280 Yeah, like I don't think cis, right?

02:58:39.360 Like it has to do like somebody who's cis is not trans.

02:58:42.240 Is that fair to say?

02:58:44.460 Yeah.

02:58:44.820 Cis refers to identifying as the gender that you were born with, I believe.

02:58:49.980 Correct me if I'm wrong.

02:58:51.740 How about this?

02:58:52.520 Because I don't.

02:58:52.940 That's correct.

02:58:53.500 Hold on.

02:58:53.900 Within LGBTQ ideology, that would be correct.

02:58:58.460 So the idea is that if you associate, if you associate with the gender in their worldview

02:59:06.500 that you were born as your cis, from Brian's standpoint, it would be if you associate with

02:59:10.620 the sex you were born as your cis.

02:59:12.680 So both sides see it differently.

02:59:14.540 Yeah.

02:59:14.820 So, I mean.

02:59:17.260 I genuinely didn't know that.

02:59:18.500 So that's why.

02:59:19.020 So I guess like what percentage of the population is transgender?

02:59:22.500 I have no idea.

02:59:22.940 Isn't it like less than 1%?

02:59:24.320 I have no idea.

02:59:25.160 But if you want to Google it, that would give you a better answer.

02:59:27.860 Well, it depends on the classification.

02:59:31.120 So when you're talking about self-identification, it's as many as one in four Zoomers actually

02:59:36.320 will identify as being trans.

02:59:38.060 But it would depend starkly on how you define what trans is.

02:59:43.020 And that's a whole ball of worms, let me tell you.

02:59:46.600 Whole ball of worms.

02:59:48.440 But so I guess, look, in any case, like I and many other cis people find this word offensive.

02:59:53.140 Like, given that I've just communicated this to you, would you consider discontinuing its

02:59:58.180 use?

02:59:58.900 If you and I were to be around each other, would I discontinue its use?

03:00:01.760 No, just like in general.

03:00:02.940 No, in general.

03:00:03.880 No.

03:00:04.220 Okay.

03:00:04.460 Well, for example, like let's say, like, for example, I'm not going to use the actual word,

03:00:08.620 but like the F word, right?

03:00:10.040 I'm sure you find, do you find this word offensive?

03:00:11.680 The four-letter F word that?

03:00:14.540 No, the three-letter F word that's often used in a derogatory way.

03:00:18.460 If someone's using it in a derogatory way, it's extremely offensive.

03:00:21.520 If it is someone in my community using it as a factual word, I don't think that it's

03:00:25.180 offensive to use it.

03:00:26.940 If someone's talking about someone said that word, then it's being literal, so I was being

03:00:32.320 literal.

03:00:32.560 10-year-old boys who are calling their friends F.

03:00:35.840 Is it to cause harm?

03:00:37.940 No, they're just like, no.

03:00:39.780 What do you mean cause harm?

03:00:40.660 Are they using it to intentionally cause harm to the person receiving it?

03:00:44.000 To which group?

03:00:45.120 To whomever they are calling them.

03:00:47.060 I mean, if you call your friend stupid, are you trying to cause harm?

03:00:51.160 I mean, if you're not, then maybe you should reassess.

03:00:53.880 But I'm just trying to understand like the scenario.

03:00:55.740 If you're deliberately saying you're stupid, F you, then yeah, that's offensive.

03:00:59.960 It just comes down to like conversation.

03:01:01.540 Right.

03:01:02.060 Like surround yourself with those who you think you can have that conversation with.

03:01:05.180 Okay.

03:01:05.420 Words aren't illegal.

03:01:06.440 Okay.

03:01:06.640 So you're fine with people like in casual conversation saying the F word.

03:01:10.660 The three letter F word.

03:01:11.620 If everyone there is fine with that word being used in conversation, sure.

03:01:16.620 Okay.

03:01:17.140 But right now, would you discontinue, now that I'm right here and Andrew's here and Damien's

03:01:22.280 here, Desmond's here.

03:01:23.940 I don't know what their specific positions are on this word, but I at least, and I think

03:01:29.820 Andrew does too, we find this term cis offensive.

03:01:33.020 Would you discontinue it for the sake of this conversation?

03:01:35.840 Would I discontinue it?

03:01:36.900 Like in this room, is that what you're referring to?

03:01:38.040 Um, if it was used in a factual based way, so we're discussing like this, probably not like

03:01:44.040 for reference of the word, but I'm not going to call you anything you don't want to be called.

03:01:49.500 So if I was using, uh, the F, uh, the three letter F word in a factual basis.

03:01:57.880 Like we're discussing someone saying that word, it would not offend me and I wouldn't see an

03:02:02.800 issue with it using the word.

03:02:03.980 If we're having like a conversation about like the word cis, that's fine.

03:02:08.600 But if you were to say that I'm a cis man.

03:02:11.300 Oh, if that offended you, then yeah, I wouldn't say it.

03:02:13.260 You wouldn't say it.

03:02:14.200 No.

03:02:15.380 Interesting.

03:02:16.120 I just think you should respect human beings.

03:02:18.180 That's all.

03:02:18.600 Okay.

03:02:19.580 But like, wouldn't you agree that if you had like a bird's eye view of a conversation that

03:02:25.280 was occurring and people were like throwing around that three letter F word in like calling,

03:02:30.100 calling each other, they're just calling each other.

03:02:32.000 I just don't think you can appease everyone.

03:02:32.940 Like, like throwing around a word for that word or any other word, if someone then brings

03:02:36.980 it up that it's offensive, then maybe you should stop using it.

03:02:39.520 Okay.

03:02:40.280 Although there, there does have seem to have been a push to like, you know, people should

03:02:44.520 even in like a private setting, uh, where somebody who identifies as part of this group

03:02:49.440 would not like, uh, who wouldn't even hear it.

03:02:52.200 They're still pushed to then like, Hey, you guys shouldn't even use that word in private,

03:02:56.000 et cetera, et cetera.

03:02:56.620 Because it's historically been used to harm people in that community.

03:03:01.660 Has cis, I think cis has been used to harm people in the cis community.

03:03:07.320 I would genuinely love.

03:03:08.480 Oh, I'm sure there's, I'm trying to think, uh, hmm.

03:03:11.420 Um, uh, perhaps by discriminating people from joining a bunny group, I guess.

03:03:17.600 I don't know.

03:03:18.220 Or what is it?

03:03:19.000 Honey?

03:03:19.280 You should just call it bunny group.

03:03:20.620 That's great.

03:03:21.220 Honey group.

03:03:21.620 Fantastic.

03:03:22.000 It's bunny group.

03:03:22.220 Queer hunting group.

03:03:23.140 Okay.

03:03:23.340 It's bunny.

03:03:24.420 I mean, objectively, if people just don't like being called it, then it's harmful, right?

03:03:28.960 Yeah.

03:03:29.220 And so like, I would never call you something that was harmful to you.

03:03:31.500 If you told me that, if you brought it up to me, then I would no longer address you

03:03:34.120 as such.

03:03:34.540 But he just did.

03:03:35.500 Didn't he just do that?

03:03:37.780 I don't know.

03:03:38.340 But how about this?

03:03:39.020 How about this question?

03:03:39.660 If me and Andrew, like after the show, like we just had a 30 minute phone conversation

03:03:44.740 and like, I called him the three letter F word like 10 times and he called me the three

03:03:49.200 letter F word like 20 times.

03:03:50.720 How about it, man?

03:03:51.520 You'd, you'd be totally cool with that.

03:03:52.840 Sure.

03:03:53.100 Okay.

03:03:53.700 You guys are having a private conversation amongst friends.

03:03:56.280 Yes.

03:03:56.760 You and him.

03:03:57.680 Yes.

03:03:57.940 No one else is going to know about it in this hypothetical situation.

03:04:00.020 Nobody else.

03:04:00.400 Have at it.

03:04:01.440 Okay.

03:04:01.900 All right.

03:04:02.940 Fair enough.

03:04:03.500 Fair enough.

03:04:03.900 Uh, going back to your notes here.

03:04:05.180 You said you also started dating your current fiance while he was still married, tried to date

03:04:09.200 his wife, who was a total bitch while also trying to make things work with your ex high

03:04:12.960 school sweet, sweetheart.

03:04:14.180 Needless to say, your partner and I are the only two in the picture.

03:04:17.780 Okay.

03:04:18.300 And then further down, I told you, you, you asked for revisions and I said that I wouldn't

03:04:23.080 be talking about a lot of that.

03:04:24.200 Oh, are you sure?

03:04:25.860 I'm positive.

03:04:26.600 Hold on.

03:04:26.980 I'll look.

03:04:28.120 Maybe it wasn't included.

03:04:30.560 Uh, well, all right, then I'll just move on then.

03:04:33.960 Thank you.

03:04:34.260 That was the notes collected were collected.

03:04:36.760 Um, you said dating and relationships are two different things.

03:04:39.980 Dating many people is how you decide who you want to be in a committed relationship

03:04:43.100 with.

03:04:43.460 You can't just test one at a time.

03:04:45.200 How would you know which one is right with no comparison?

03:04:47.620 There is someone for everyone, but not everyone is for someone.

03:04:50.600 Agree.

03:04:51.100 Yeah.

03:04:51.540 Okay.

03:04:51.800 And let's see here.

03:04:54.600 Okay.

03:04:55.040 All right.

03:04:55.480 Moving on to who do we have?

03:04:57.420 We have, uh, one sec guys trying to get the notes here.

03:05:02.860 We have Jay.

03:05:05.300 I think you're the final one here who we have notes on.

03:05:08.180 Did you submit notes?

03:05:10.740 No, I don't think I sent it.

03:05:12.940 Let me just do a little quick, quick check here.

03:05:17.520 Uh, no.

03:05:19.160 Okay.

03:05:20.020 That's fine.

03:05:20.720 Uh, Jay, you're.

03:05:21.800 Craziest dating experience was when this guy you were talking to on Tinder invited you to

03:05:26.400 his family's lake cabin in Minnesota for the weekend.

03:05:28.780 You're living there at the time, two hour drive.

03:05:30.660 And when you got there, he ended up not really liking, uh, you and you barely spent any time

03:05:36.440 together, but his family loved you.

03:05:38.640 I, you ended up spending most of the weekend with his mom and sister.

03:05:41.420 Oh my God.

03:05:42.420 Yeah.

03:05:42.780 That was short on this.

03:05:44.400 Yeah.

03:05:44.800 That was an interesting experience.

03:05:46.660 It was, it was a long time ago.

03:05:48.920 I was like, I was probably like 10 years ago now.

03:05:51.600 It was a long time ago, but yeah, I just remember I was living in a Minneapolis, Minnesota at

03:05:56.840 the time I was right out of college and I'm after this guy on Tinder and, and he just spontaneously,

03:06:02.760 he's like, Hey, come to my lake, come to my family's lake cabin.

03:06:05.860 And I guess there was like a glitch on his location settings.

03:06:09.100 And that was why he saw me, he saw me in his matches, even though I was two hours away.

03:06:14.800 Like, I think he thought I was a lot closer than I actually was, but he invited me and

03:06:19.220 I was like, Oh, that sounds fun.

03:06:20.680 So I ended up just going and spending the weekend with him and not, not knowing him at

03:06:26.460 all.

03:06:26.740 I was like, I had no idea what to expect.

03:06:28.820 I didn't know if he was going to look like his photos or anything like that.

03:06:31.640 And I get there and we just end up, he wasn't like a bad person or anything.

03:06:36.340 We just kind of didn't really vibe.

03:06:37.840 Like the chemistry wasn't really there, but his family ended up loving me.

03:06:42.860 Like his mom and dad loved me.

03:06:44.360 His sister loved me and they were, they were just a really nice, normal family.

03:06:48.580 Like nothing bad happened.

03:06:50.280 They were just so nice to me.

03:06:51.600 So normal.

03:06:52.240 I had a really good time.

03:06:53.380 And then I went home and never saw any of them again.

03:06:57.480 Damn.

03:06:58.000 Okay.

03:06:58.160 And, uh, also just Allie clarifying here.

03:07:01.320 Um, I just looked at our message history.

03:07:04.340 Were you saying like earlier on in the show, you said this, or you said in the message,

03:07:08.420 you said like, Oh, I nevermind.

03:07:10.140 I don't want to talk about that stuff.

03:07:11.720 I think I put specifics about what I didn't want to talk about in the messages.

03:07:14.960 I mean, you're welcome to look back at it.

03:07:16.820 I just looked over the message history.

03:07:18.400 Cause I don't want people to think like, Oh, I like there's nothing in the message history

03:07:24.460 that indicated, Oh, I don't want to talk about this.

03:07:26.920 Is there a reason why you said that you were corrected and that you did find it or you

03:07:31.340 said, Oh, sorry.

03:07:32.300 Cause you said you found it now a second ago.

03:07:34.260 Like genuinely clarifying.

03:07:35.320 I'm not.

03:07:35.620 No, I said, I looked through our message history because you just said that, Oh, in the messages,

03:07:41.440 I said, I didn't want to talk about that, but there's nothing in the messages whatsoever

03:07:47.020 that pertains to you having carve outs of what you did or didn't want to talk about.

03:07:53.120 Okay.

03:07:53.560 I mean, if I can look at it, that's fine, but I don't have my phone.

03:07:56.080 Right.

03:07:56.380 But just wanting to clear the air there because the, if it's not there, it's not there, but

03:08:01.220 I mean, I'm happy to look later.

03:08:03.000 Sure.

03:08:03.340 Totally fine.

03:08:03.840 But it's not there.

03:08:04.440 Um, so, okay.

03:08:06.040 Going back to you, Jay, you said that, uh, you, uh, you hooked up with a porn star once

03:08:13.260 who you met on Tinder.

03:08:14.500 Yeah, I did.

03:08:15.820 Uh, it was, uh, I'm not going to say his name, but he was a popular, uh, male only fans

03:08:20.120 creator who I met him on Tinder.

03:08:22.420 I went over to his hotel room in downtown LA and we, we hooked up.

03:08:27.940 He was really hot, but I kind of, I think cause of his career, I had higher expectations.

03:08:34.120 He, he was just kind of like this.

03:08:37.020 He was just average, like in, in bed, but he was very good looking and he was nice.

03:08:41.880 Hmm.

03:08:42.840 Okay.

03:08:43.520 And you only like hooked up with him once or a couple of times?

03:08:46.320 Only, no, only one time.

03:08:47.740 Okay.

03:08:48.480 Uh, you said another guy you dated briefly also from Tinder.

03:08:51.280 He used to give you $200 every day because you took off work, taking out with him because

03:08:57.020 that's how much you earned in a work day.

03:08:59.660 Yeah.

03:09:00.100 He was very rich, but same age as you.

03:09:02.160 Yeah.

03:09:02.480 So also, yeah.

03:09:03.400 Also met him on Tinder and I'm, I'm not in the, I'm not in the older men at all.

03:09:07.780 I pretty much only date my age or younger.

03:09:10.060 But yeah, I met this guy on Tinder and, uh, I was working for Instacart at the time.

03:09:15.540 I still work for them.

03:09:16.480 And he just asked me, he was like, I remember being on a, on a date with him and then he

03:09:20.480 wanted me to sleep up.

03:09:21.600 He wanted me to sleep over and then spend the next day with him.

03:09:23.840 And I told him, I was like, no, I have to work.

03:09:26.800 I have to work.

03:09:27.480 So I can't see you tomorrow cause I got to work.

03:09:29.420 And then he just asked me, how much money do you make in a typical day working for Instacart

03:09:33.420 if you work a full day?

03:09:34.860 And I told him 200.

03:09:36.000 And so he started just giving me like that same amount of money to not work that day

03:09:41.800 so I could spend more time with him.

03:09:43.260 Was he like lived far away or something or?

03:09:45.580 No, no.

03:09:46.040 He lived in the century city, Los Angeles, which is right outside Beverly Hills.

03:09:50.920 How many times did you hang out with him?

03:09:52.280 Would you say?

03:09:52.880 I only dated him for maybe, maybe about a month.

03:09:56.020 Okay.

03:09:56.360 So maybe you hung out like 10 times or something or.

03:09:58.960 It was like six times.

03:10:00.700 And every time he just paid you $200?

03:10:02.080 Not, not every time it was after like the third, the third time.

03:10:06.780 So like three times he paid you $200?

03:10:08.680 Yeah.

03:10:09.740 And then were you hooking up with him?

03:10:11.720 Yeah.

03:10:12.060 No, we were hooking up.

03:10:12.980 Yeah.

03:10:13.480 Like going on dates and hooking up.

03:10:15.140 Is this technically prostitution?

03:10:18.140 Well, we, uh, no, he actually, he liked me and I liked him too.

03:10:21.580 Like I wanted to have him be my boyfriend and I would have dated him even if he weren't

03:10:25.520 giving me money.

03:10:26.120 I totally would have dated him.

03:10:27.700 But he's like, so he's paying you for the day, but he's like compensating you because

03:10:32.200 he's not like, because you would have hung out with him for free on a day you weren't

03:10:38.020 Oh, absolutely.

03:10:38.440 I would have.

03:10:38.840 I really liked him.

03:10:39.680 He was a really great guy.

03:10:41.000 Right.

03:10:41.560 I was, I was sad when it, when it ended, he ended up, uh, he ended up moving outside of

03:10:45.980 LA.

03:10:46.500 That was why it ended.

03:10:47.440 But if he, if he still lived here and if he, if he didn't have that kind of money and

03:10:52.900 I was just hanging out with him for free, like normal, I would totally still date

03:10:56.680 him.

03:10:57.320 Okay.

03:10:57.700 But last time I checked, he doesn't live in LA and he has a girlfriend in the city he

03:11:02.580 lives in now.

03:11:03.140 So he's not knocking anymore.

03:11:04.800 So I guess, I mean, it was just like, he really wanted to hang out with you, but you're

03:11:07.620 like, Oh, I'm so busy.

03:11:08.600 I have to work.

03:11:09.400 And so he's like, all right, I'll just give you, take the day off.

03:11:12.420 Whatever.

03:11:12.800 Yeah.

03:11:13.000 That was exactly it.

03:11:14.780 Okay.

03:11:15.840 And you would have like, if you were a free, if it was a free day for you, you would have

03:11:20.340 hung out with him for free.

03:11:21.620 Oh, totally.

03:11:22.480 Yeah.

03:11:22.700 Like if it happened, if it happened to be like a day that I was going to take off work

03:11:26.000 anyway, I would have hung out with him for free thousand percent.

03:11:28.760 Do you girls think that's kind of like pathetic though?

03:11:30.480 Like he's like paying her 200 bucks to hang out?

03:11:33.120 Like, I don't know.

03:11:35.300 It's a little.

03:11:36.300 For me, I think it's like, I think that someone did that for me.

03:11:40.300 I feel like that's like dedication that they want to see me like, okay.

03:11:45.520 Yeah.

03:11:45.680 That's exactly how I saw it.

03:11:46.700 How busy were you?

03:11:47.520 How busy were you?

03:11:48.460 I told, I told you earlier, I was like, I work a lot.

03:11:51.840 I love money.

03:11:52.540 So, and I would rather make my, that's why I work so much because I would rather make

03:11:56.760 my own and not depend on a man.

03:11:58.480 Okay.

03:11:59.460 Uh, and then you said that, uh, you see a lot of stuff on Tik TOK.

03:12:03.180 Oh wait, hold on.

03:12:04.240 You see a lot of stuff on Tik TOK about how to marry a rich man and how to be more feminine

03:12:08.380 to attract men.

03:12:09.280 But I think it's best to just be yourself because the right man for you will love it.

03:12:12.700 He's not going to criticize you for being too masculine.

03:12:15.300 And I'm all, uh, not going to criticize you for being, are you, do you consider yourself

03:12:19.900 too masculine or?

03:12:21.120 I mean, I don't really even know what too masculine is.

03:12:25.660 Why?

03:12:26.020 I mean, maybe because I work a lot, maybe because I'm athletic, I lift weights at the gym.

03:12:29.780 I don't know.

03:12:30.220 Maybe some guys think that's too masculine, but I don't really care.

03:12:33.440 Like I'm just going to be myself and I know whoever, like my future husband is, whoever

03:12:39.700 like universe wants me to be with, he's going to love me the way I am.

03:12:43.160 He's not going to be like, Oh, I mean, I like her, but I just wish he were a little more

03:12:47.180 feminine.

03:12:47.900 Like he would never say that.

03:12:49.160 He would just, you know, like me.

03:12:50.940 Not to you, I guess.

03:12:52.440 Exactly.

03:12:53.280 Okay.

03:12:53.640 And if he were to criticize me, I would just, I would just walk away.

03:12:56.540 Cause I dealt with way too much criticism from my exes.

03:12:59.740 And now if a guy tries that now, I just, I won't even put up with it anymore.

03:13:04.580 You said that you're a lover girl and you used to think you had to tone it down, tone

03:13:08.560 down that side of yourself and be more like a bad bitch.

03:13:11.940 But now you're not afraid to show that side of yourself to the right guy.

03:13:15.320 Yeah.

03:13:16.400 So that was, you know, again, too, just so much, all this really bad dating advice.

03:13:21.500 I was, you know, I was, I was being told this information since I was in middle school,

03:13:26.400 like 20 years ago, reading magazines, like before social media was a thing.

03:13:30.440 And like, there would be all these, all this dating advice of like, Oh, don't text him back

03:13:34.740 too quickly.

03:13:35.400 You're going to look too desperate or like, don't, don't make the first move.

03:13:38.980 The guy always has to make the first move.

03:13:40.620 Cause you don't want to look too desperate and just all shit like that.

03:13:44.400 And I've fucked with my head for so long.

03:13:46.240 And I was like, Oh, I need to be like, it put this idea into my head that like, if I'm

03:13:51.340 too sweet, if I'm too kind, if I treat a guy too well, he's going to think I'm too easy

03:13:57.140 or like not enough of a challenge and he's not going to like me.

03:14:00.000 But it's like, that's just who I am.

03:14:01.920 Like I'm the same way with my girl, with my female friends, like my family, like that's

03:14:06.340 just kind of who I am.

03:14:07.260 And it's like, I don't want to have to change that to keep a man like again to like the right

03:14:12.440 guy for me, he's going to appreciate it.

03:14:14.680 Although I have had particularly with my, my last ex, the one who was a very abusive,

03:14:19.940 like he really took advantage of my kindness and just really kind of like took, took everything

03:14:25.840 from me.

03:14:26.840 So now what I do is I'm just, I'm a lot more discerning about which men, what did he take

03:14:31.760 from you?

03:14:32.780 Everything.

03:14:33.220 Like I, were you making all the money or how did he wouldn't, so he, he wouldn't let

03:14:38.880 me, he wouldn't let me work actually.

03:14:40.460 Like I was, I was working for Instacart and he, he didn't want me working, but then he

03:14:45.180 also didn't want to work either.

03:14:46.840 And he would just beg, he would call his mom all the time and just beg his mom to give him

03:14:51.660 money.

03:14:52.180 Cause he didn't want to work.

03:14:54.160 And, and then he also didn't want me working.

03:14:57.100 So basically he wouldn't let me work.

03:14:58.840 So while I was in that relationship with him, like I, I lost so, I lost so much money

03:15:05.300 cause I wasn't working.

03:15:06.080 And then I stopped paying my, I stopped paying my credit card bills cause I had no money to

03:15:11.180 pay them.

03:15:12.260 And then I ended up just not paying, not paying my credit card for like the whole relationship.

03:15:17.080 And then as soon as we broke up, that was the first thing I did was I just started busting

03:15:21.800 my ass with Instacart again.

03:15:23.120 And I was like, like, I was sad about the breakup, but I was so excited to start working

03:15:28.880 again.

03:15:29.900 He also, he hated that I was into health and fitness.

03:15:32.100 So like, he wouldn't let me eat healthy.

03:15:33.980 He wouldn't let me go to the gym.

03:15:35.180 I gained 30 pounds when I was in that relationship.

03:15:38.280 And then after we broke up, I lost, I lost all the weight within four months after we broke

03:15:44.000 up cause I was so motivated by trauma.

03:15:45.740 Like I wanted my old body back so bad.

03:15:48.020 And now, you know, that was two years ago and I've kept the weight off ever since.

03:15:53.880 And like, he, he hated me being blonde, for example.

03:15:56.760 Like he would tell me every day, he was like, I like brunettes.

03:15:59.420 I like girls with brown hair.

03:16:00.580 And he would tell me every day, he'd be like, you should dye your hair.

03:16:03.320 I don't like blonde girls.

03:16:04.280 And I'm like, wait, are you naturally blonde?

03:16:06.640 No, but he hated that.

03:16:08.660 He hated that.

03:16:09.560 I wasn't.

03:16:10.580 He wait.

03:16:11.500 So you were blonde.

03:16:12.300 He preferred brunettes and you were naturally brunette.

03:16:15.220 So you were saying, I prefer the way you naturally are.

03:16:18.480 He was like, but he, I was blonde when he met me though.

03:16:21.900 That's the thing.

03:16:22.640 So it's like, like when, when I met him, I looked, you know, basically the same as I

03:16:28.600 look now.

03:16:29.080 I could see like a girl who's got like.

03:16:31.160 But did he, has he ever seen you with your brunette hair?

03:16:34.080 No.

03:16:34.840 Okay.

03:16:35.180 What?

03:16:35.680 Yeah.

03:16:36.080 Just don't say anything.

03:16:36.560 Like I don't have any on my Instagram.

03:16:38.040 Like I deleted them all.

03:16:40.380 Oh, okay.

03:16:41.180 Yeah.

03:16:41.420 It was just like, he had this thing too.

03:16:43.360 He would also, he just hated anything.

03:16:44.980 Can you speak closer to the mic?

03:16:46.140 Oh, sorry.

03:16:46.980 He just, he hated anything that was fake was like the big thing.

03:16:49.800 Like, like he would show me pictures of other girls on Instagram and he'd be like, this

03:16:54.400 girl's really pretty, but he wears too much makeup.

03:16:56.400 Or he would like criticize girls for getting like plastic surgery and lip filler and things

03:17:00.900 like that.

03:17:01.320 It was just.

03:17:02.140 This guy sounds fucking awesome.

03:17:04.840 Fuck yeah.

03:17:07.300 He was a natural body supremacist, right?

03:17:10.620 Yeah, pretty much.

03:17:11.640 He was basically, he was like, he just, it was just, if it was fake.

03:17:14.980 In any way, he just automatically hated it.

03:17:18.080 He wanted me to dress him.

03:17:19.140 What was his name?

03:17:19.860 First name.

03:17:20.360 Just first name.

03:17:21.280 Eli.

03:17:22.320 Yo, W's in the chat for Eli.

03:17:24.040 W's in the fucking chat for Eli.

03:17:25.640 This guy sounds like a fucking legend.

03:17:27.420 But I have, I have a million stories.

03:17:30.060 I mean, about that part.

03:17:30.200 I have a million stories from that relationship.

03:17:32.600 He also keyed it on me too.

03:17:34.040 And that was why, why we broke up.

03:17:36.840 Okay.

03:17:37.240 But so going into it, you said for, as far as marrying a rich man, you're, is this your

03:17:41.400 ex-fiancé?

03:17:42.400 No.

03:17:42.620 Or is that, this is a different guy?

03:17:43.720 No, this is a different guy.

03:17:45.060 So as for marrying a rich man, my ex-fiancé had a lot of money.

03:17:48.740 This is what, uh, in your notes, your ex-fiancé had a lot of money.

03:17:52.000 He was also same ages, uh, as me, not older.

03:17:54.880 We dated five years ago and I was broke and struggling at the time.

03:17:59.040 And I remember when we got engaged, I was so excited to upgrade my lifestyle through

03:18:03.140 him because deep down, I didn't believe I could do it on my own.

03:18:06.040 When we broke up, I thought that just wasn't the type of girl rich man wanted.

03:18:10.500 And now five years later, I make a lot more money and I realized I never needed him to

03:18:15.000 feel successful, feel successful.

03:18:17.360 I wish him well, but he wasn't a good match for me.

03:18:20.060 Uh, so that was your five.

03:18:22.360 Wait, hold on.

03:18:23.240 Yeah, that was, that was five years ago.

03:18:24.700 So yeah, it was 2019.

03:18:26.360 Five years ago.

03:18:27.020 Okay.

03:18:27.300 Gotcha.

03:18:27.960 And, uh, so you, when you say he had a lot of money, how much money did he have?

03:18:32.240 So he was a, he was a software developer.

03:18:34.060 So he was a, like a freelance, uh, software developer.

03:18:37.720 Yeah.

03:18:38.220 So basically like he owned his own business building, building apps for businesses, like

03:18:43.000 for, for iPhones.

03:18:44.420 Yeah.

03:18:45.060 Like seven, seven figure net worth, eight figure.

03:18:47.620 Uh, something, something like that.

03:18:49.080 Yeah.

03:18:49.620 Yeah.

03:18:49.800 Which one?

03:18:50.920 About seven figures.

03:18:52.120 Yeah.

03:18:52.560 Sure.

03:18:52.740 And I, I met him on social media.

03:18:56.480 He's slid into my DMS on Instagram randomly one day.

03:18:59.700 Mm-hmm.

03:19:03.600 And, uh, I was with him.

03:19:05.840 I was with him for six months.

03:19:07.020 He, we got, we got engaged really fast too.

03:19:09.900 That was another thing I went through.

03:19:11.420 Cause like before I was with him, I was single for five years.

03:19:14.160 And like, I was convinced like my pattern before is I would go on dates and I would date someone

03:19:19.420 for maybe like two months or so at a time, but the same thing kept happening where the

03:19:23.740 guy would always be like, I really like you, but I'm just not ready for a relationship.

03:19:27.420 And that was happening to me over and over again.

03:19:29.640 So I thought something was wrong with me.

03:19:31.580 And then when this guy, he finally wanted to commit to me.

03:19:34.400 And then when, when we got engaged after only dating for six months, I was like, oh, I'm

03:19:39.020 finally, I'm finally good enough to be someone's wife.

03:19:41.880 Like after five years of just guys being not ready for me, like now I'm finally good enough

03:19:47.000 for this, but looking back on it, I mean, I wish him well, you know, he wasn't a bad guy

03:19:52.440 or anything, but we just, we weren't, we weren't compatible.

03:19:56.220 There were a lot of areas where we just didn't have things in common.

03:19:59.940 And that's something I'm really picky about now is lifestyle compatibility.

03:20:03.620 Like that is probably the number one thing I look for in a, in a guy, like in a relationship

03:20:08.720 is lifestyle compatibility because I've built up since my last relationship ended, I've

03:20:14.080 really like come back and rebuilt my life so good.

03:20:17.060 And it's like, my life now as a single girl is so amazing that it's like, I don't ever want

03:20:22.420 to have to give any of that up for a guy again.

03:20:25.540 So if he doesn't fit into what I already have, like, I don't want him.

03:20:29.500 Okay.

03:20:30.040 And then you're a cougar.

03:20:33.520 I did date a younger man earlier this year.

03:20:36.620 Yeah.

03:20:36.820 For the first time.

03:20:37.720 You, you're 30, you're 33 and he was 25.

03:20:40.780 Yeah.

03:20:41.260 I was all again, met him on a Tinder seems to be, I have, I have, I have good luck on

03:20:46.760 Tinder.

03:20:47.260 It works for me somehow, but you said, you said you were open to just hooking up, which

03:20:52.000 is why you had your age filter set the way you had them on Tinder.

03:20:57.120 And you said he planned like a really nice date or something.

03:21:00.960 We won't really get into the details of that, but big contrast from your last ex.

03:21:07.380 Yeah.

03:21:07.820 So like my, my last ex, the one that the one who was really, really abusive, like wouldn't

03:21:13.340 let me work and all that.

03:21:14.420 He would, he, hold on, hold on, pause for just a sec.

03:21:16.880 Um, he was abusive.

03:21:19.800 Yeah.

03:21:20.260 So he, he was abusive because he didn't let you work or were there other things too?

03:21:25.740 It was just a lot of a, a lot of mental and emotional, just criticism all the time.

03:21:29.780 Like trying to get me to like make over myself to look more like his type.

03:21:34.020 Like he was always like, he was talking to other women the whole time I was with them.

03:21:38.100 He was cheating on you?

03:21:39.040 Yeah.

03:21:39.400 He was, he, he never met, he never met up with any other women, but he would be talking

03:21:43.320 to them like on Tinder and other apps the whole time I was with them.

03:21:46.680 Physical abuse or no?

03:21:48.060 No, only a mental and emotional thing.

03:21:50.380 Yeah.

03:21:50.560 So, and he would say stuff like, I wish your hair was a different color.

03:21:54.860 Like that kind of stuff.

03:21:55.440 Yeah.

03:21:55.460 Stuff like that.

03:21:56.240 He didn't like my clothes.

03:21:57.280 He would like take me shopping and he would pick out clothes for me and it was just the

03:22:00.820 ugliest clothes that I hated.

03:22:02.640 Um, what, just curious, what other, like, what, would he ever like call you names?

03:22:08.920 Like bitch.

03:22:10.760 That sort of stuff.

03:22:11.440 Never like that.

03:22:12.000 It was just always just criticizing me.

03:22:13.720 He would be like, you, you work too hard.

03:22:15.680 Like you're a workaholic.

03:22:16.640 You're too obsessed with money.

03:22:17.980 Cause I wanted to work Instacart to pay my rent and not hang out with them.

03:22:22.140 So, and then, um, he would kind of be critical of how much you worked.

03:22:28.860 Did he want to spend more time with you?

03:22:30.480 Wait, I'm a little confused.

03:22:31.600 He wouldn't let you work, but you worked anyway, or can you clarify?

03:22:35.740 So he would, he would want, he would go to work with me, but then he would always want

03:22:39.440 to leave like way earlier than I wanted to leave.

03:22:43.060 Oh, you guys did the like Instacart thing together?

03:22:45.040 Yeah, we, we tried, we tried to, but it was miserable.

03:22:47.600 Cause like he would just be complaining the whole time and then he would want to leave

03:22:50.820 super early and I would want to keep working.

03:22:53.120 But you said he prevented you from working.

03:22:55.420 I'm just a little confused.

03:22:56.080 He wouldn't let me, he wouldn't let me work by myself, but then every, he wouldn't let

03:22:59.220 me work by myself.

03:23:00.040 He always wanted to go with me, but then every time he went with me, he would want to leave

03:23:03.800 super early.

03:23:04.680 So I barely made any money.

03:23:05.860 Wait, how long were you with him?

03:23:07.340 Like eight months.

03:23:08.540 Eight months.

03:23:09.600 And this is the, wait, the ex fiance?

03:23:13.040 No, this is the guy that I met right after it was a, right after the pandemic ended, I

03:23:18.040 started dating him.

03:23:19.280 This isn't the young guy though.

03:23:21.040 No, no.

03:23:21.780 He was same age as me.

03:23:22.740 Okay.

03:23:23.080 I see.

03:23:23.820 Okay.

03:23:24.220 But he's the guy you met.

03:23:25.500 The young guy's the guy you met after the, the guy who you're talking about now.

03:23:29.340 Yeah.

03:23:29.820 Who was abusive.

03:23:30.520 Um, what was the most abusive thing he did to you?

03:23:35.860 Probably like, there was, there was one point, this is, it was like halfway into our relationship.

03:23:41.280 He got really into a Christianity and he got this idea in his head that he was like, he

03:23:46.660 wanted to stop having sex with me because he saw me as his future wife and he wanted

03:23:50.800 to save me, like save me from marriage going forward.

03:23:54.700 Like he was like, I don't want to have sex with you again until after we're married.

03:23:58.020 But then he would, and then he would say things like, it's because you're such a, you're such

03:24:02.240 a good woman.

03:24:02.960 You're so nice.

03:24:03.660 You're so good quality and have your life together.

03:24:06.340 But then he would talk, talk about wanting to hook up with my roommate.

03:24:10.220 He would be like, I want to have sex with your roommate.

03:24:12.780 Cause he's like a bad girl.

03:24:14.200 He's like a slutty wild party girl.

03:24:15.960 So I want to have sex with her, but I don't want to have sex with you.

03:24:18.600 And you have evidence of him cheating.

03:24:20.940 You said he cheated on you, correct?

03:24:23.360 So that was how, that was how it ended.

03:24:25.680 So that was how we broke up.

03:24:26.920 Was that he, he met up with another girl on Tinder and then spent 48 hours with her and

03:24:32.360 we were living together.

03:24:33.320 So I just kicked him out.

03:24:34.080 I mean, was there, there was ongoing conflict though.

03:24:36.500 It sounds like in the relationship, like, was it nearing the end anyways, or.

03:24:41.260 I mean, it should have never, I should have never been with him in the first place.

03:24:44.760 But, um, and so, uh, because here's the part I'm a little bit confused about is I asked you

03:24:54.920 for a couple examples or, and I, of this alleged abuse.

03:25:01.560 Um, so he, you said he became a Christian and stopped wanting to have sex with you.

03:25:08.440 He had like criticisms of how much he worked, maybe criticisms like he wanted your hair

03:25:14.080 to be changed.

03:25:15.260 I don't know if this rises to the level of abuse.

03:25:21.020 Perhaps these are rude things or.

03:25:23.460 It was more of just like wanting to.

03:25:26.080 He would, he would argue though.

03:25:27.220 Like he would say it in ways that were very argumentative, like a lot of yelling.

03:25:30.560 Is that, okay.

03:25:31.620 So he was yelling at you.

03:25:32.700 Yeah.

03:25:33.040 And then I was, and then I would start, yeah, he would yell and then I would start crying

03:25:36.680 and then he would accuse me of like, of like manipulating him.

03:25:40.200 He'd be like, oh, you're just, you're faking, you're crying for attention when I would get

03:25:43.840 sad over him criticizing me.

03:25:45.740 So, okay.

03:25:47.640 Yeah.

03:25:48.220 Yeah.

03:25:48.420 Basically.

03:25:49.580 It just, uh, I don't know if some of the, maybe there was abuse.

03:25:54.880 To me, it felt abusive.

03:25:56.940 It was emotional.

03:25:58.100 Yeah.

03:25:58.420 To, to me, it felt abusive.

03:26:00.000 Like maybe other people that might be nothing, but for me, that's how it felt.

03:26:04.900 Those, the, the initial things that you cited to, like he criticized how much you worked.

03:26:11.580 He, uh, wanted you to maybe dress a certain way or wanted you to change your hair.

03:26:18.720 Um, I don't know if those things are abuse and it seems to be perhaps like, obviously there's

03:26:26.500 degrees to this sort of thing, but I don't know.

03:26:30.120 I feel like that's abuse.

03:26:31.800 That's abuse.

03:26:32.500 I feel like it's abuse to like, not let somebody be able to do something.

03:26:35.980 Yeah.

03:26:36.940 Really?

03:26:37.800 Cause that's like controlling.

03:26:39.320 Yeah.

03:26:39.840 I think maybe, maybe control.

03:26:41.280 Yeah.

03:26:41.480 Maybe controlling may have been a better word.

03:26:43.500 I apologize for that.

03:26:44.920 Okay.

03:26:45.360 Oh, okay.

03:26:46.260 Yeah.

03:26:46.480 I think I maybe didn't, I mean, I think I maybe didn't know the correct word, but yeah,

03:26:52.720 basically.

03:26:53.280 Yeah.

03:26:53.440 He was very, he was very controlling and just all the things that I guess kind of like made

03:26:58.000 me who I am.

03:26:58.740 Like he took that, he took that away from me and tried to turn me into a completely different

03:27:02.540 person than what I was.

03:27:04.840 Yeah.

03:27:05.260 Is it, wouldn't that be considered emotional abuse?

03:27:07.520 Yeah.

03:27:07.860 What, what would be what like the situation, like, uh, being emotionally abused basically

03:27:13.000 is like someone bringing you down as it, like bringing you down.

03:27:16.320 That's sure.

03:27:17.200 Yeah.

03:27:17.400 He was bringing me down every single day.

03:27:19.020 Was he working?

03:27:19.460 Did he have a job?

03:27:20.560 No, he, no, he refused to get a job.

03:27:22.760 He thought he was like too good for it.

03:27:24.660 He was like, he had money.

03:27:25.800 Um, no, he, was this the one you said that he called his mom for money?

03:27:30.360 Yeah.

03:27:31.220 Can I say something?

03:27:33.060 So it sounds like you were a placeholder and then he was trying to change you to be

03:27:38.580 what he wanted you to be.

03:27:40.380 Exactly.

03:27:40.920 That's exactly what he did.

03:27:42.100 You were, you were trying to be yourself because you liked him and he kind of liked you.

03:27:48.060 And then you were trying to like, you know, when you guys, you know, having sex, you're

03:27:53.660 trying to make love and he's just trying to fuck and you guys are not communicating that.

03:27:59.260 Yeah.

03:27:59.440 It was basically, yeah, it was just, um, I feel like I definitely, I w I was probably

03:28:04.500 a placeholder cause I'm like, I'm pretty sure he just kind of took advantage of me helping

03:28:08.340 him because he was, he was homeless when we met and I let him live with me.

03:28:12.100 I hear stories like this all the time, all the time.

03:28:15.520 Hold on.

03:28:16.240 He was homeless.

03:28:17.320 Like you met him on Skid Row or what, what are we talking here?

03:28:20.480 No, I met, I met him through a, I met him through a mutual friend.

03:28:23.140 He was a renting a room at a hostel in LA.

03:28:26.700 Whereas like my friend who, my friend who I met him, met him throughout the hostel.

03:28:30.700 My friend was like, it was like a friend that he used to live in LA, but then he moved

03:28:35.080 back to his hometown in Texas.

03:28:36.840 And then he was like on vacation.

03:28:38.260 What was it a friend is the question.

03:28:39.260 Friend, he was a gay man.

03:28:42.220 So, oh, okay.

03:28:44.840 Yeah.

03:28:45.220 So basically this, this friend, he was on vacation back in LA and he was like, oh, I met this

03:28:50.280 guy at my hostel who I think you're going to like, you should come hang out with us.

03:28:53.520 And that was how, but it, but it was like, he was staying there cause he had no place to

03:28:57.920 live.

03:28:58.420 Unlike my friend who was staying there.

03:28:59.740 I don't know if this is a hot take.

03:29:01.040 I don't know if this is a hot take.

03:29:02.800 How about dating advice?

03:29:05.260 Whether you're a man or a woman, uh, maybe.

03:29:08.220 Maybe, uh, maybe like if somebody is actively homeless, maybe not the best person to date,

03:29:15.260 you know?

03:29:15.580 Literally.

03:29:16.300 Yeah.

03:29:16.500 Let them get their shit together.

03:29:18.260 Although I will say.

03:29:19.320 Date them after they get their shit together and then that's fine.

03:29:21.860 I'm pretty sure he still doesn't have his shit together.

03:29:24.380 I don't think he ever will.

03:29:25.760 Okay.

03:29:26.300 Well, you kind of invite certain things if you're going into a relationship.

03:29:30.160 Another thing that I will say.

03:29:31.020 This guy has a, is a drug dealer and he has face tattoos.

03:29:33.740 This is going to go great for me.

03:29:34.260 He did have face tattoos actually.

03:29:35.880 He literally did.

03:29:37.080 Oh my God.

03:29:38.880 Wait, he has face tattoos?

03:29:40.060 Yeah.

03:29:40.580 Yeah.

03:29:40.720 Every single red flag.

03:29:41.540 You're 33.

03:29:42.280 When did, how old were you when you met him?

03:29:44.060 I was a 29.

03:29:45.620 29?

03:29:46.020 There's a lot of 29 and 30 year olds that take in good looking guys that don't really have

03:29:53.420 a place to stay because they feel lonely.

03:29:55.800 Yeah.

03:29:56.320 And they feel like, yes, the women feel lonely.

03:29:59.320 Also.

03:29:59.640 Really?

03:30:00.140 You can't just get like an average dude with a job?

03:30:02.560 Because they want a guy there that they can fall asleep next to.

03:30:06.780 So they fuck him so that he could fall asleep next to them.

03:30:09.900 Y'all invite the shit into your own life.

03:30:10.660 Dude, I hear stories like that all the time.

03:30:12.320 Honestly.

03:30:13.400 Bro.

03:30:13.640 Another thing too.

03:30:14.580 He had a face tattoo?

03:30:15.140 Yeah.

03:30:15.880 Oh.

03:30:16.520 And he was a SoundCloud rapper.

03:30:18.120 That was his career.

03:30:19.220 Oh my God.

03:30:19.860 Did he used to sell drugs too?

03:30:22.580 No.

03:30:23.140 Has he ever been to prison?

03:30:25.540 No, but he wasn't.

03:30:26.420 He was an alcoholic also.

03:30:27.620 That was another thing.

03:30:28.720 Oh, and how early into the relationship did you know he was an alcoholic?

03:30:32.520 A few months in.

03:30:33.420 Not right away.

03:30:33.940 Did he have an ankle monitor or anything like that?

03:30:35.840 No.

03:30:36.340 Are these girls, oh, I'm dating this guy with a fucking face tattoo, blasted in tats.

03:30:41.260 Blasted in tats.

03:30:42.360 Fucking.

03:30:43.320 Oh my God.

03:30:43.860 Another thing I will say though is I think.

03:30:45.840 Oh, I'd be surprised you.

03:30:46.400 Look.

03:30:46.800 Oh my goodness.

03:30:47.580 Yo.

03:30:47.880 Another thing I want to add though is I think.

03:30:49.420 Did you fix him?

03:30:50.420 Did you fix him?

03:30:51.840 No.

03:30:52.460 You can't.

03:30:53.000 He's incapable.

03:30:53.500 That's because he was trying to fix you.

03:30:54.840 Yo, life advice ladies.

03:30:55.940 Don't date men with face tattoos.

03:30:57.520 That's another like simple thing you can do.

03:30:59.680 Just avoid the guys with the face tattoos.

03:31:02.100 Why are you talking shit about Mike Tyson?

03:31:04.080 Oh.

03:31:04.400 Unless his face tattoo is your name.

03:31:08.020 What?

03:31:08.720 Are you saying that Mike Tyson should not be dated by women?

03:31:12.200 No.

03:31:12.620 Look.

03:31:13.320 There are probably guys out there with face tattoos who are great people.

03:31:18.200 Post Malone.

03:31:18.740 But maybe.

03:31:19.620 It would just be easier.

03:31:21.100 You know, look, there's plenty of fish in the sea.

03:31:23.080 How about you just, you know, just like, eh, you know.

03:31:26.900 Dude, another thing.

03:31:28.200 Yo, another thing can I cut in is I really blame.

03:31:31.060 I think the timing had a lot to do with it.

03:31:33.040 Because I met him, it was a spring of 2021.

03:31:36.360 Literally, like, pandemic just ended.

03:31:38.080 I got my COVID vaccines.

03:31:39.780 I had been in quarantine.

03:31:41.180 We all had been in quarantine for a long time.

03:31:43.860 Yeah, you went slumming for the homeless.

03:31:45.440 Yeah, and basically.

03:31:46.380 Face tattoo.

03:31:47.360 Yeah.

03:31:47.920 Slumming.

03:31:48.480 Alcohol.

03:31:48.760 And honestly, yeah, I just think the timing.

03:31:51.280 I remember getting my COVID vaccines, finally being able to, like, leave my house and do stuff again and be around people again.

03:31:57.240 And then I met him a few weeks later.

03:31:59.060 And I think it was, I think the timing definitely played a part.

03:32:02.880 I'm going to get you pregnant.

03:32:03.860 Wait, so hold on.

03:32:05.500 Are you just saying you were, like, mad horny and shit?

03:32:08.480 Yeah.

03:32:08.700 Yeah, I was.

03:32:10.140 Wait, so you did, you did, like, full-blown for, like, you did full-blown, like, stay-at-home, you-didn't-fuck-for-like-a-year type shit?

03:32:20.020 Because my roommate, my roommate who I was living with had a really bad anxiety during the pandemic.

03:32:24.800 And he basically, like, wouldn't let me, wouldn't let me leave.

03:32:28.380 Okay.

03:32:28.780 Because he was, he was, like, so scared that if I did anything, I would give him COVID.

03:32:32.300 So they're, like, cobwebs, you had to clear out the fucking cobwebs.

03:32:35.120 Too many cobwebs, had to clear them out.

03:32:37.500 And the shit is, a lot of men got very lucky in that period.

03:32:41.960 Like, all the liberal women hadn't fucked in, like, a year.

03:32:47.860 Got, need the, need the, the, the jab first.

03:32:51.740 Damn.

03:32:53.080 Then, bam.

03:32:54.000 Floodgates are open figuratively and literally.

03:32:56.780 Okay, moving on.

03:32:58.160 Thank you for all that.

03:32:59.240 Appreciate it.

03:33:00.220 And then, I think that's it for the notes.

03:33:02.500 We're going to get into the juicy stuff in the questionnaire.

03:33:05.140 But first, good friend Stifler here.

03:33:08.940 Ask everyone to rate their own looks, on a, own looks, on a scale of one to ten.

03:33:13.640 Starting with you.

03:33:14.480 Go ahead.

03:33:15.980 Oh, gosh.

03:33:16.780 And the public eye, probably a zero.

03:33:18.900 But for me, like, a eight?

03:33:20.760 I don't know.

03:33:21.800 Okay.

03:33:23.200 The public eye is zero?

03:33:24.120 I was, zero was a harsh.

03:33:25.220 Zero was, zero was freaking harsh.

03:33:26.420 Come on.

03:33:26.680 I'm sorry.

03:33:27.400 But, like, like, a five?

03:33:29.980 I don't know.

03:33:30.560 All right.

03:33:30.840 There you go.

03:33:31.260 Okay.

03:33:31.600 So, wait.

03:33:31.860 I was called an it at the beginning of this.

03:33:33.300 Do you recall how this started?

03:33:34.780 Someone referred to me as it.

03:33:36.200 Oh, the chat.

03:33:37.160 Yeah.

03:33:37.700 Somebody in the chat.

03:33:38.560 Yeah.

03:33:39.680 Okay.

03:33:40.360 What about you?

03:33:41.460 I'll give myself a nine.

03:33:43.180 All right.

03:33:43.740 I'm honest.

03:33:44.600 What about you?

03:33:45.860 I'd say, like, a solid seven.

03:33:47.860 That feels comfy.

03:33:49.360 Okay.

03:33:49.660 I would say a one, just because I have a lot of male friends, and they're literally just

03:33:55.540 friends, so that's probably a one.

03:33:57.720 Okay.

03:33:58.640 What about you?

03:33:59.740 Ten.

03:34:00.620 All right.

03:34:02.220 Seven.

03:34:03.020 Okay.

03:34:05.620 Yeah, I'd say I'm a ten when I'm, like, done up, like, hair and makeup, and then a nine

03:34:09.900 when I'm right out of bed and not quite.

03:34:13.360 That's not right.

03:34:14.760 Wait.

03:34:15.020 Sorry.

03:34:15.220 She said nine.

03:34:20.220 So, wait.

03:34:20.640 Sorry.

03:34:20.840 Ten?

03:34:21.580 Yeah.

03:34:21.900 Like, if I'm done up, like, full glam hair and makeup, ten.

03:34:25.320 If I'm right out of bed, then nine.

03:34:28.880 Right.

03:34:29.500 Wait, wait, wait.

03:34:30.920 So, right out of bed.

03:34:32.580 Like, first thing in the morning when you wake up.

03:34:34.420 Is your piece.

03:34:35.540 No, no.

03:34:35.880 She said nine out of bed, ten when she's, like, done makeup and all that.

03:34:40.180 Yeah.

03:34:40.380 Yeah.

03:34:40.540 Get it right.

03:34:40.640 Like, when I'm, like, glammed up.

03:34:41.640 Get it right, Desmond.

03:34:42.480 What about you?

03:34:45.860 I would say a nine just because I'm not where I would want to be at with, like, body-wise.

03:34:50.100 So, we, okay.

03:34:50.900 So, we got nine.

03:34:52.700 Uh, wait.

03:34:54.260 Nine.

03:34:55.260 Ten.

03:34:56.260 Ten.

03:34:56.940 Oh, we got a very attractive panel tonight.

03:34:59.680 My goodness.

03:35:00.880 Brian, it's so amazing.

03:35:02.720 You.

03:35:03.200 I'm so good.

03:35:03.820 Single-handedly.

03:35:04.560 You bring on the most beautiful women anywhere in California.

03:35:09.380 All you have to do is ask them.

03:35:11.320 The best.

03:35:11.420 That sounds like a lot of fucking sarcasm right there.

03:35:14.880 My feelings are hard.

03:35:16.060 The best.

03:35:16.340 What do you mean?

03:35:16.920 No, no, no.

03:35:17.800 There's no, no sarcasm.

03:35:19.700 I'm telling you.

03:35:20.340 Wow.

03:35:20.720 Wait.

03:35:20.920 The amount of overwhelmingly gorgeous women who come on to whatever, bar none, nothing else

03:35:25.940 like it anywhere in the world, I know, because I've asked so many of them this question,

03:35:31.120 rate their looks, and I know that they're the most beautiful women in the world.

03:35:34.780 Just ask them.

03:35:35.380 Uh, you know what you need to do to convince Andrew?

03:35:41.340 What?

03:35:41.780 Is you need to do one of those, like, slow-mo, like, wait, hold on, I gotta put it on there.

03:35:47.000 Like, slow-mo, like, undo the hair and just, like, let it shake out, you know?

03:35:50.960 Could you do that?

03:35:52.700 Or is your hair not gonna do that?

03:35:56.000 It will, like, but.

03:35:57.280 You take it out and just, like, let it do the.

03:35:58.980 My hair is so nice right now.

03:36:01.920 Don't do anything for a man, girl.

03:36:03.980 My hair is so nice.

03:36:04.280 Don't do anything for the male gaze.

03:36:05.460 Do it for you.

03:36:06.400 But I can't.

03:36:07.460 I can, but.

03:36:08.200 What sort of feminist nonsense is that?

03:36:10.120 If you don't want to, don't do it.

03:36:11.040 What if the male gaze, you're doing it for you because you like the male gaze?

03:36:14.880 Did you ever think of that?

03:36:15.940 Ooh.

03:36:16.240 I didn't hear what he said legitimately.

03:36:17.520 Repeat it.

03:36:17.840 I literally can't say it.

03:36:18.900 I said, I said, what if she's doing things like that because she likes the male gaze?

03:36:24.300 Oh, no, I was just referring to this one specifically.

03:36:26.240 Yes, I'm an attention whore.

03:36:27.480 Wait, I, you know what I want?

03:36:29.900 You have a nice body.

03:36:31.220 Thank you, honey.

03:36:33.340 Wait, who said that?

03:36:34.760 Oh, Cass?

03:36:35.460 Okay.

03:36:35.800 Are you bi or are you trying to smash her?

03:36:37.300 No, I'm envious of her perky titties.

03:36:40.580 Thank you.

03:36:41.840 Because my titties are, like, down here without a bra.

03:36:43.820 Oh, word.

03:36:44.780 Okay, thank you.

03:36:45.660 That's only because I don't have titties.

03:36:47.040 Dude.

03:36:48.680 I'm wearing a push-up bra, so.

03:36:50.820 My ex would hate me.

03:36:52.700 You're wearing a push-up bra.

03:36:53.920 Oh, it's fake.

03:36:54.540 Who else has a sternum tattoo, by the way?

03:36:56.420 Anybody?

03:36:56.900 Sternum tattoo?

03:36:57.780 Sternum tattoo?

03:36:59.060 Is that the one?

03:36:59.700 Not yet.

03:37:00.260 She has, like, a little dagger or some shit?

03:37:02.000 Yeah, and then, like.

03:37:02.580 I felt the not yet.

03:37:03.820 Yeah.

03:37:04.480 I don't know.

03:37:05.200 A barbed wire.

03:37:06.220 But I'm getting all of them removed.

03:37:07.720 What's the history of the dagger or sword or whatever?

03:37:10.560 I just got it simply because I wanted a tattoo right here.

03:37:13.080 And then those tattoo artists were like, this would look nice.

03:37:15.600 And I was like, but.

03:37:16.240 Is it a dagger or a dirk?

03:37:18.180 It's a dagger.

03:37:19.100 Are you sure?

03:37:19.720 Yes.

03:37:20.100 He said, well, the tattoo artist was like, it's a dagger.

03:37:21.740 Yeah, but what if he played a little, did a little trick?

03:37:24.520 He did a little bamboozle and it's actually a dirk.

03:37:26.760 Well, I don't even know what a dirk is.

03:37:28.340 You should get with the program and learn about dirks.

03:37:32.140 Because, oh my God, never mind.

03:37:34.080 Dirk?

03:37:34.480 Let me Google it.

03:37:35.020 Let me make sure I'm.

03:37:35.420 A short dagger of a kind formerly carried by Scottish Highlanders.

03:37:41.160 So still a dagger.

03:37:42.320 Dagger.

03:37:42.500 So it is a dagger.

03:37:43.800 But there's different kinds of daggers.

03:37:46.420 Mm-hmm.

03:37:47.860 There's.

03:37:48.260 But she is sure that it is indeed a dagger.

03:37:51.740 A dagger.

03:37:51.980 It is indeed a dagger.

03:37:53.260 Great.

03:37:53.380 So I did.

03:37:54.840 For the nines and tens at the table, I want you to rate me.

03:37:59.740 Rate my looks.

03:38:00.700 Won't be offended.

03:38:01.680 You can give me a zero.

03:38:02.660 Won't be mad.

03:38:03.280 You can give me a ten.

03:38:04.060 And I'll call you a fucking liar.

03:38:05.600 Go ahead.

03:38:06.080 Wait.

03:38:06.460 As a ten.

03:38:07.420 Oh.

03:38:07.940 Wait.

03:38:08.120 Did I not rate myself?

03:38:09.840 As a ten.

03:38:11.380 And I know I have to be a ten.

03:38:13.000 Because there's this many tens at the table.

03:38:15.060 Of course I'm going to be a ten as well.

03:38:18.340 I would have to rate you, Brian.

03:38:21.040 At.

03:38:21.360 No.

03:38:21.840 I don't know.

03:38:22.860 Three.

03:38:23.940 Maybe.

03:38:24.440 Oh.

03:38:25.760 Yeah.

03:38:26.500 You're a friend.

03:38:28.580 Yeah.

03:38:28.860 Some friend.

03:38:29.460 Some pal.

03:38:30.420 Okay.

03:38:30.880 That was useful.

03:38:32.800 So.

03:38:34.060 Getting back to this anyways.

03:38:36.840 I'll give myself.

03:38:37.960 I'll give my rating afterwards, I guess.

03:38:41.260 So.

03:38:42.520 I need a rating from you.

03:38:44.620 You.

03:38:45.680 And then you two.

03:38:46.400 Go ahead.

03:38:47.020 I give you an eight.

03:38:48.880 Okay.

03:38:49.320 Shut up.

03:38:51.200 I think it's right.

03:38:52.040 Yeah.

03:38:52.300 I think you're like you're handsome.

03:38:53.640 Okay.

03:38:53.900 Go ahead.

03:38:54.320 What do you.

03:38:54.640 I'm not into white men.

03:38:55.740 So I would say like a five.

03:38:57.800 She's into white men.

03:38:59.360 No.

03:38:59.760 I say I'm not into white men.

03:39:01.140 You're not into white men.

03:39:02.480 Yeah.

03:39:02.980 What.

03:39:03.360 What are you into?

03:39:05.760 Like his Mexicans?

03:39:07.080 No.

03:39:07.720 You're.

03:39:08.420 Bro.

03:39:08.780 You're.

03:39:09.120 Hold on.

03:39:09.640 You're definitely into Mexicans.

03:39:10.820 Like I've dated a Mexican.

03:39:11.920 That's why I said earlier.

03:39:12.760 He's not my type.

03:39:13.040 Oh you're not.

03:39:13.560 You're not.

03:39:14.120 You're.

03:39:14.340 You're still dating a Mexican.

03:39:17.160 And having sex with him.

03:39:18.540 Yes.

03:39:18.920 And letting him fuck other women.

03:39:20.140 Like multiple other women.

03:39:21.420 At the same time.

03:39:22.420 Like the same date.

03:39:23.380 I don't care.

03:39:23.560 He's not my man.

03:39:24.560 He can do whatever he wants.

03:39:25.700 I mean she did say he wasn't her type.

03:39:27.400 Like aggressively.

03:39:27.780 I literally said that.

03:39:28.640 Fair enough.

03:39:29.040 What is your type?

03:39:29.740 Asians.

03:39:31.080 Oh.

03:39:32.260 All right then.

03:39:33.160 Cool.

03:39:33.460 Yes.

03:39:33.640 I love me some.

03:39:35.180 I'm not.

03:39:35.440 I'm not going to say it.

03:39:36.820 Some.

03:39:37.340 That was a wise choice.

03:39:38.580 No.

03:39:39.180 Love you some.

03:39:39.900 Yeah.

03:39:40.820 What?

03:39:41.260 Say it.

03:39:41.520 Just say it.

03:39:41.900 Fuck it.

03:39:42.240 Fuck it.

03:39:42.700 Yolo.

03:39:43.100 No.

03:39:43.380 It's racist.

03:39:44.340 Send it.

03:39:44.940 Oh.

03:39:45.340 You can't?

03:39:45.660 It's racist.

03:39:45.820 No.

03:39:45.920 It's racist?

03:39:46.560 Yeah.

03:39:47.160 I was going to say like a racist slur.

03:39:49.240 But like I love me some.

03:39:52.120 The C.

03:39:52.880 She made the correct choice.

03:39:53.840 Yeah.

03:39:54.020 Don't say that.

03:39:54.520 Don't say that.

03:39:54.840 Yeah.

03:39:54.920 Yeah.

03:39:55.160 Don't say that.

03:39:56.120 Okay.

03:39:56.480 I guess rate me on the scale of one to ten.

03:40:00.260 No.

03:40:00.440 For you.

03:40:00.780 Rate me.

03:40:01.340 No.

03:40:01.660 Her.

03:40:02.960 I'd say you're like an eight.

03:40:06.180 Okay.

03:40:06.680 What about you?

03:40:07.120 Go ahead.

03:40:07.340 Rate me.

03:40:08.140 I say seven.

03:40:09.240 But if you put moisturizer on.

03:40:11.020 It would go up.

03:40:12.160 It would go up.

03:40:13.100 I'm not trying.

03:40:13.800 I'm just being helpful.

03:40:14.400 It's true.

03:40:15.080 I'm being helpful.

03:40:15.500 Dude.

03:40:15.940 More men should be in the skin care.

03:40:22.900 Like if a guy is in the skin care.

03:40:24.340 It's fucking hot.

03:40:25.160 I love that.

03:40:25.560 And it keeps you young.

03:40:27.120 Look.

03:40:27.560 You know.

03:40:27.800 I got dry skin.

03:40:28.760 You know.

03:40:28.880 I got a little flakes going.

03:40:29.920 So this is what it is.

03:40:31.420 Yeah.

03:40:31.800 I take really good care of my skin.

03:40:33.240 I want a guy who does the same.

03:40:34.540 Anyways.

03:40:34.860 I give myself a five.

03:40:36.200 So wrong.

03:40:38.700 Wrong.

03:40:39.180 Wrong.

03:40:39.740 She was kind of on point.

03:40:41.920 I guess.

03:40:42.640 I was.

03:40:43.000 I said five.

03:40:43.380 So you only.

03:40:44.060 You prefer just Asian.

03:40:45.180 Like black guys.

03:40:46.220 No.

03:40:46.780 No.

03:40:47.080 Not my type.

03:40:48.000 Are you half black, half white?

03:40:49.140 Yes, I am.

03:40:49.860 I'm black, white, and Native American.

03:40:51.520 Which is the part of you that doesn't want to date black men?

03:40:54.300 They all remind me of my father.

03:40:55.880 That's not the question.

03:40:57.680 So wouldn't it be all of her?

03:40:58.320 Wait.

03:40:58.480 They remind you?

03:40:59.460 Wait.

03:40:59.700 Black men remind you of your father?

03:41:00.420 I don't know.

03:41:00.980 I think like for me, I'm also into like mixing races.

03:41:05.860 So like I don't want to be with a black man because my father's black.

03:41:09.700 I don't want to be with a white man because my mother's white.

03:41:12.020 Like that's the type of thing I want.

03:41:13.480 I want, you know, I think of like more of a, I have like couples that are mixed up people.

03:41:17.120 I don't understand.

03:41:18.040 So isn't that all right?

03:41:18.900 Yeah.

03:41:19.120 Like mixed up couples.

03:41:20.240 I like biracial couples.

03:41:21.120 Wait a second.

03:41:21.940 That makes no sense.

03:41:22.580 I do like biracial.

03:41:23.240 Anybody that you have children with is going to be mixed race.

03:41:27.100 What do you mean?

03:41:27.620 No matter what.

03:41:28.580 No matter what.

03:41:29.220 No matter who you have children with, the children are going to be mixed race.

03:41:32.180 No matter what.

03:41:32.480 I don't want, I don't want to be with my race.

03:41:37.060 No, I, no, I'm not 50, 50.

03:41:38.600 So you're like 25, 25, 50.

03:41:40.820 Yeah, kind of.

03:41:41.540 Yeah.

03:41:41.720 So your, your dad is.

03:41:43.740 My dad is Native American, Native American and black.

03:41:46.120 So he's 25 or 50 Native American, 50 black.

03:41:49.440 Basically.

03:41:49.860 Yeah.

03:41:50.300 And my mother is Native American and white.

03:41:54.220 Okay.

03:41:54.720 So you want to get like, you want to break down the percentages even more.

03:41:58.980 Like you want to throw in some Asian.

03:41:59.860 I just don't want to be, I just don't want to be with my race at all.

03:42:02.480 Like anything that I am.

03:42:04.020 You want to know?

03:42:04.400 Damn, bro.

03:42:04.820 So no white, no Native American.

03:42:08.500 What about Native of a different country?

03:42:12.040 Like Indigenous to Australia.

03:42:14.240 Like the Aboriginal.

03:42:15.340 No.

03:42:15.620 You wouldn't fucking Aboriginal?

03:42:16.340 That's why, that's why I like, I'm usually with Mexicans.

03:42:19.360 Wow, that's fucked up, bro.

03:42:19.800 Huh?

03:42:20.200 That's why I'm usually with Mexican or Asians.

03:42:22.240 But aren't like Mexicans Native-ish?

03:42:26.340 But.

03:42:26.960 Kind of?

03:42:27.440 Like it's Native plus the Spanish.

03:42:29.040 I mean, some, some.

03:42:30.340 Yeah, some.

03:42:30.720 I don't know how it fucking works.

03:42:31.440 Yeah, some way.

03:42:31.960 That's true.

03:42:32.540 That's, well, that's Mestizos.

03:42:34.660 And Mestizos are a mixture.

03:42:37.300 That is, that is most of the country.

03:42:39.040 Yes.

03:42:39.720 Yeah.

03:42:39.920 They're a mixture of Spaniards and the Native population.

03:42:44.200 That way.

03:42:45.040 Wow.

03:42:45.740 Yeah.

03:42:45.960 But yes, my ideal is Asians.

03:42:48.220 That's where.

03:42:48.520 Would you date, what about like, well, I guess this would be a kind of Asian.

03:42:54.800 Would you date, I don't think they like, what's the appropriate word for Eskimo nowadays?

03:43:02.140 Inuit.

03:43:02.900 Inuit.

03:43:03.340 Thank you, Andrew.

03:43:04.140 Would you date an Inuit?

03:43:05.700 What's an Inuit?

03:43:06.820 An Eskimo.

03:43:07.400 There would be an Eskimo.

03:43:08.420 What's an Eskimo?

03:43:09.140 I think, I believe it's Native Alaskan.

03:43:11.760 What is it?

03:43:12.860 It's a Native American tribe.

03:43:13.880 It's my favorite kind.

03:43:14.640 But it's like from Alaska.

03:43:15.600 Okay, hang on.

03:43:16.140 I got a question for you.

03:43:17.120 Let us pretend for a second that it was a Native American guy, but he passed himself

03:43:23.200 off as being Hispanic.

03:43:24.900 So you dated him, right?

03:43:26.840 For two years, he fell in love with him.

03:43:28.340 And then he came clean and said that he was actually Native American, not Hispanic.

03:43:32.380 Because he's getting dumped.

03:43:33.940 Yes.

03:43:34.900 Yeah.

03:43:36.500 Question.

03:43:36.860 What if they're 75% Asian and 25% white?

03:43:47.020 I could do Asian.

03:43:49.480 So you could do 50% Asian, 50% white?

03:43:54.860 Yeah.

03:43:56.200 75% white, 25% Asian?

03:43:59.720 No.

03:43:59.860 51% white, 49% Asian.

03:44:05.520 Okay.

03:44:06.220 All right.

03:44:06.480 Like, if they have the features of an Asian man, that's all I care about.

03:44:10.060 What if you were dating the guy?

03:44:11.660 And if plus, they have to be bilingual.

03:44:13.560 They have to be bilingual.

03:44:14.340 Okay, okay.

03:44:14.880 But what if you're dating the guy, and he thought legitimately he was Asian, but then later,

03:44:21.400 he took a DNA test, and he found out he was actually Hispanic and just really looked

03:44:28.260 Asian.

03:44:28.740 No.

03:44:29.000 Is he getting dumped?

03:44:30.280 Because I usually don't go for, um, um, I like...

03:44:36.240 Taylor?

03:44:36.740 Yeah.

03:44:37.660 Wow.

03:44:38.840 So like Filipinos, I wouldn't go for more like, stuff like that.

03:44:43.700 Like the Japanese?

03:44:44.880 The Japanese.

03:44:45.740 No, not Japanese either.

03:44:46.620 Their heads are too big.

03:44:47.840 Would you date Nikki over there?

03:44:49.600 Like if you were...

03:44:51.720 What?

03:44:52.000 If I was a male?

03:44:53.060 Like she's Cambodian.

03:44:54.280 Yeah.

03:44:55.400 This is kind of getting crazy.

03:44:56.840 Can I say something slightly racist?

03:44:59.280 Is that okay?

03:44:59.760 Right?

03:45:00.060 Yeah.

03:45:00.180 I probably don't say something.

03:45:02.220 Absolutely not.

03:45:02.860 Yeah, don't say something.

03:45:03.640 Okay, then something else.

03:45:05.300 So I prefer black men, but I can't find like a Stefan Urkel.

03:45:10.860 I keep on getting like Sheldon Coopers.

03:45:13.040 And part of the reason why I identify as a fem cell is because I ignore those guys.

03:45:19.420 Like I don't want white guys, Asian guys.

03:45:22.000 Like I want a black dude.

03:45:24.020 So...

03:45:24.340 How tall?

03:45:26.540 Wait, hang on.

03:45:27.760 I'm sorry.

03:45:28.840 How tall?

03:45:28.940 Let me make sure I got this right because I think I understand what you're saying.

03:45:32.540 Are you actually saying that, because you mentioned Steve Urkel Stefan.

03:45:37.140 Yeah, I would prefer like a Stefan Urkel.

03:45:38.740 The alter ego.

03:45:40.640 You prefer the Stefan or the Urkel?

03:45:42.700 I prefer Urkel.

03:45:44.240 You prefer the Urkel.

03:45:45.240 Yeah.

03:45:45.480 Okay, I see.

03:45:46.460 Yeah.

03:45:46.660 So instead, you're getting the really good looking, suave ladies man who's awesome.

03:45:53.900 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

03:45:55.560 Hang on, hang on.

03:45:56.380 That's the Stefan though.

03:45:58.000 Okay, my bad.

03:45:59.160 When I think of Urkel, I think of young Urkel.

03:46:01.540 But I mean, grown up Steve Urkel, like that's my ideal man.

03:46:05.840 Like, high-functioning autistic black dude.

03:46:09.700 Like, that's why I'm less about a parent.

03:46:12.380 Desmond.

03:46:13.320 So what about a parent?

03:46:14.340 Desmond, get over here, bro.

03:46:16.660 Desmond, get in here, bro.

03:46:18.180 What do you think about Desmond?

03:46:20.640 He's too attractive.

03:46:21.820 I don't like men that are too attractive.

03:46:22.860 He's too attractive?

03:46:23.620 Yes.

03:46:24.300 Wow.

03:46:24.700 So you just want a guy who breaks all your shit and then says, did I do that?

03:46:28.860 Really?

03:46:29.940 I think that...

03:46:31.520 Well, not break so much shit.

03:46:32.160 Walk around your apartment and break all your stuff and then be like, can I do that?

03:46:35.940 Really?

03:46:36.360 That's the goal?

03:46:39.240 I want high-functioning autistic black male.

03:46:41.560 Oh my goodness.

03:46:42.200 And only white dudes are like in my DMs.

03:46:44.940 So I just, I friend zone them and I'm waiting for my man.

03:46:49.800 So that's what I want.

03:46:51.740 Hey, it's okay to have a type though.

03:46:53.300 I think we all do on some level.

03:46:55.180 Me too.

03:46:55.320 Period.

03:46:55.660 Yeah.

03:46:56.300 Wait, would you, Anissa, do you have a brother?

03:46:59.140 No.

03:46:59.520 Would you like date her bro?

03:47:02.020 Like she's Asian.

03:47:04.180 Wait, what's the percentage breakdown though?

03:47:06.900 Oh no.

03:47:08.000 Like, would that be...

03:47:08.680 But you're like, what are you?

03:47:09.800 Like, what is your...

03:47:10.560 I'm Thai.

03:47:13.520 No.

03:47:15.120 Thai?

03:47:15.580 You won't do Thai?

03:47:16.500 No.

03:47:17.020 They have small...

03:47:18.500 Jack talk Thai?

03:47:19.580 Yeah.

03:47:20.160 No.

03:47:20.940 No Thai.

03:47:21.720 Don't do Thai.

03:47:22.820 No, you don't do Thai.

03:47:23.940 Would you just do like Chinese and Korean?

03:47:24.820 Because those are the light-skinned Asians.

03:47:27.060 Like the Southeast ones or the dark ones?

03:47:28.640 It honestly just depends.

03:47:29.600 I feel like she's...

03:47:30.540 I'm not picky with Asians.

03:47:32.420 Like it could be like...

03:47:33.200 Like Mongolian?

03:47:34.140 Like do you fuck with Mongolians?

03:47:35.920 I don't know exactly what they look like.

03:47:37.240 Are you more like...

03:47:38.000 But I'm not picky about it.

03:47:39.240 It's just like, it's based...

03:47:40.180 And also I'm based...

03:47:40.940 I really like personalities.

03:47:42.220 Like I fall for personalities, but if you're like...

03:47:45.300 Are you gonna like try to go to like Korea or Japan or something?

03:47:50.380 Yeah, I'm going to Korea for my birthday.

03:47:52.060 Whoa, dude.

03:47:52.260 She's like a reverse passport bro.

03:47:53.560 I can speak Korean.

03:47:54.720 She's a passport bro.

03:47:56.380 She's like, fuck these Western dudes.

03:47:58.600 I'm gonna go get me a nice Japanese...

03:48:02.440 A based Japanese dude.

03:48:05.160 Actually, I just want to go to Korea for the skincare.

03:48:08.280 Oh, okay.

03:48:09.460 All right.

03:48:09.900 Cool.

03:48:10.920 Nice facial.

03:48:11.980 Well, right now there's an incel uprising going on in South Korea, so it's a really good time to go.

03:48:16.880 I know.

03:48:17.340 Yeah, is the martial law...

03:48:18.920 Was that removed or is that still...

03:48:20.660 Oh, no.

03:48:21.120 Yeah, they completely resisted it, and it's definitely not going to go into effect.

03:48:26.240 Well, no, the president...

03:48:27.500 That'd be incels one, government of South Korea zero.

03:48:31.700 No, no, no.

03:48:32.100 But the president...

03:48:33.320 I don't know about the incel thing.

03:48:34.400 The president put into place martial law.

03:48:37.460 Did you hear about this?

03:48:38.160 No, he attempted to put into place martial law, and the population summarily rejected it.

03:48:43.840 And parliament went and said, no way.

03:48:46.920 That's not going to happen.

03:48:48.280 So it's over.

03:48:49.580 Oh, it's done.

03:48:50.100 Okay.

03:48:51.160 Do you know why?

03:48:52.020 What?

03:48:52.280 Anyway, I don't know if we need to get into it.

03:48:53.660 Because they said that they had an actionable threat from North Korea, and the population didn't buy it.

03:49:00.000 They told them to shut up.

03:49:01.460 And that hasn't really happened before, and nobody really knows how to deal with it.

03:49:06.140 Okay.

03:49:07.440 Well, anyways, getting back to this question.

03:49:12.340 Going back around the table, let's see.

03:49:18.640 Would you rate me?

03:49:19.820 Huh?

03:49:20.240 Will you rate me?

03:49:21.200 You want me to rate you?

03:49:22.420 Yeah.

03:49:23.100 What did you give yourself?

03:49:24.240 A 10?

03:49:26.940 Would I rate you?

03:49:28.580 Let me see.

03:49:30.400 Let me stand up.

03:49:32.160 Sure.

03:49:32.540 Why not?

03:49:32.960 If you want to.

03:49:33.680 Go ahead.

03:49:34.200 Okay.

03:49:34.700 Okay.

03:49:44.960 You're...

03:49:45.440 You are...

03:49:48.840 You have pretty eyes.

03:49:51.040 I'll give you that.

03:49:51.640 Thank you.

03:49:53.360 You're like...

03:49:54.200 I'll give you Nate.

03:49:56.020 That's good.

03:49:56.760 That's good.

03:49:57.720 That's good.

03:49:59.360 No?

03:49:59.580 Are you rated?

03:50:01.140 Yeah.

03:50:01.380 What are you rated, Andrew?

03:50:02.120 No, no, no.

03:50:02.560 Not him.

03:50:02.900 I think that's fair.

03:50:04.080 No.

03:50:04.980 No.

03:50:05.460 We're taking...

03:50:05.880 We're going too far.

03:50:07.560 What?

03:50:08.800 Andrew.

03:50:09.700 Hey, shut up, Andrew.

03:50:11.060 All right.

03:50:11.660 Hey, hey, Andrew.

03:50:12.500 That's facts.

03:50:13.140 Andrew.

03:50:13.880 Andrew.

03:50:14.340 You kind of did say that.

03:50:15.260 As a defender...

03:50:16.380 I'm actually...

03:50:17.080 I am triggered.

03:50:19.140 I am so triggered, Andrew, as a defender of the Itty Bitty Titty Committee.

03:50:23.340 Committee.

03:50:23.860 Committee.

03:50:24.160 I'm part of the Itty Bitty Titty Committee.

03:50:25.920 I prefer...

03:50:26.560 I would prefer...

03:50:27.520 They're not even Itty Bitty.

03:50:28.800 They're just not titty.

03:50:30.060 It's not Itty Bitty Titty.

03:50:31.180 No titty.

03:50:31.920 Hey, she's got a solid A cup.

03:50:33.800 Wait, him or her?

03:50:34.780 Andrew, you are body shaming.

03:50:36.400 You misogyny.

03:50:38.660 Y'all see that little lump right there?

03:50:39.880 Can I ask a question?

03:50:40.480 Come on.

03:50:41.740 She has a good sense of humor about this shit.

03:50:44.740 Hats off.

03:50:45.500 Hats off to you.

03:50:46.560 That brings your rating up at least one point from a 3.4 to like a 4.2-ish.

03:50:52.360 Boom.

03:50:53.000 Not a full question.

03:50:54.060 That's fine.

03:50:55.220 Go ahead.

03:50:55.540 What's your question?

03:50:56.080 I have a question for you and Andrew.

03:50:58.140 Yeah.

03:50:58.580 Do you guys prefer tits or ass?

03:51:00.440 Oh, boobies or titties?

03:51:01.460 Well, you don't...

03:51:02.520 Okay, my answer to this.

03:51:04.240 I'm a labia guy.

03:51:06.920 I've literally never heard that.

03:51:07.780 I just want to know tits or ass.

03:51:08.740 I'm a labia guy because I only date women with large labia.

03:51:13.640 Oh, okay.

03:51:14.260 That's interesting.

03:51:14.840 That's interesting.

03:51:15.460 Yeah, that's interesting.

03:51:16.780 So you've got to see it first before you even get a chance?

03:51:20.140 Okay.

03:51:21.060 What's labia?

03:51:22.720 You know innies and outies?

03:51:24.940 Like belly buttons?

03:51:26.000 No.

03:51:26.460 A little further south.

03:51:27.720 Girl.

03:51:28.120 A little further south.

03:51:29.160 Oh.

03:51:29.280 Yeah, like I...

03:51:31.200 Like the male version...

03:51:32.480 I thought it was just more like a scientific word for a belly button.

03:51:35.280 So you're like the male version of a size queen?

03:51:38.220 Yes, I am.

03:51:39.460 It is revenge.

03:51:41.300 Like there's different ones and I never knew until I started dancing.

03:51:43.940 You don't have a preference between those two?

03:51:45.040 No labia on the table.

03:51:45.980 Oh, just saying like...

03:51:46.800 Like no, yeah.

03:51:47.760 Wait, guys, guys, guys.

03:51:48.500 So this is like...

03:51:49.700 I don't know.

03:51:49.980 So...

03:51:50.680 Oh.

03:51:51.140 The labia, it's out.

03:51:52.440 Out.

03:51:52.660 Like there's wings?

03:51:53.460 There's lips.

03:51:54.060 Yeah, wings.

03:51:54.520 That's okay.

03:51:55.200 Wings, son.

03:51:55.900 Wings.

03:51:55.940 So big inner, not big outer.

03:51:58.160 Specifically inner.

03:51:59.340 Well, so yeah, there's the inner and outer labia.

03:52:01.180 That's what I'm saying.

03:52:01.520 Which one do you prefer?

03:52:02.580 Both big.

03:52:03.580 Oh, great.

03:52:04.680 But if one or the other, I guess the inner, the lips, that's kind of more so my preference.

03:52:09.860 But like outer, big labia, big outer labia, good too.

03:52:13.980 Okay.

03:52:14.980 Sign me up, but...

03:52:16.500 Sign me up.

03:52:17.820 More to work with or...

03:52:19.340 Uh-huh.

03:52:19.780 More to work with or just purely revenge, as you said?

03:52:23.120 No, not...

03:52:23.540 Is that what you said?

03:52:23.740 It was revenge or...

03:52:24.920 That was banter.

03:52:25.600 It's not...

03:52:26.000 I don't care.

03:52:26.420 Not revenge.

03:52:26.960 I mean, so was mine, but I was just bullshitting.

03:52:28.600 She was asking if it was like the reverse of the size queen or the like...

03:52:31.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:52:32.440 You're revenge.

03:52:33.180 No, no, not revenge.

03:52:34.500 That's crazy.

03:52:35.020 It's just like, I think like aesthetic thing, kind of like...

03:52:38.580 And then there's like a difference.

03:52:41.300 Yeah, so...

03:52:42.960 I mean, you date women, right?

03:52:44.480 Like, do you have a preference or you don't care?

03:52:46.760 No preference.

03:52:47.260 No, you don't care at all?

03:52:48.280 Whatever's attached to the person I like.

03:52:49.980 Yeah.

03:52:50.680 And look, I'll date a girl with an innie, but like I got a preference, you know?

03:52:54.200 How about it, man?

03:52:55.020 I have a date a girl.

03:52:56.440 I got a preference.

03:52:57.040 Yes.

03:52:57.780 What's up?

03:52:58.260 I had a girlfriend one time.

03:52:59.360 The one time I had a girlfriend and she showed me her vagina and pretty sure it was like

03:53:05.260 a labia, like you said, and I didn't like it.

03:53:07.060 It immediately turned me off from her.

03:53:09.420 Like, not to be fucked up, but I like wasn't attracted to her after I seen how it looked.

03:53:13.780 Can I mention another show?

03:53:15.080 Because like you should...

03:53:15.820 Y'all should all watch that show, Naked Attraction.

03:53:19.240 You know what I'm talking about?

03:53:20.080 I love that.

03:53:20.560 Anyways, you would love it.

03:53:21.840 I'm sure.

03:53:22.140 You would love it.

03:53:22.340 Yep.

03:53:23.160 Wait, so hold on.

03:53:24.200 You rejected her because she had a...

03:53:26.320 Well, we were dating for like six months, but we never did anything.

03:53:29.180 But then she showed me a picture of hers.

03:53:30.860 Showed you a picture?

03:53:31.520 Yeah, of her vagina.

03:53:32.680 And I like was turned off.

03:53:34.860 Is she...

03:53:35.940 She's white.

03:53:36.580 She's around or...

03:53:37.820 No, we don't talk.

03:53:38.620 We haven't talked in years, but like we're still like...

03:53:40.460 Give it to me.

03:53:41.740 Give it to me.

03:53:42.320 I could pass it your way.

03:53:44.420 I got you.

03:53:45.320 You scratch my back?

03:53:46.300 Yeah, I got you.

03:53:47.540 Wait, you're only into white girls?

03:53:50.200 No, it's because of the labia.

03:53:51.520 What?

03:53:51.900 Oh.

03:53:52.660 No, I'll date.

03:53:53.480 I'll date.

03:53:54.280 I'll date.

03:53:55.020 I date white girls, Asian women, Latino women.

03:54:01.880 Black women?

03:54:02.400 Sometimes mixed race women.

03:54:05.920 Wasians.

03:54:06.360 I'll date anybody if I like them.

03:54:11.040 And their labia is huge.

03:54:13.780 But so, okay.

03:54:14.740 To answer your actual question, though.

03:54:17.100 I don't like boobs.

03:54:18.940 More of a butt guy.

03:54:20.100 Like of the two you options.

03:54:21.480 More of a butt guy than a boob guy.

03:54:23.880 But...

03:54:25.040 I figured most guys prefer butts.

03:54:26.840 I mean, small boobs, cool.

03:54:28.520 Nice, big boobs, cool.

03:54:30.860 I don't like...

03:54:33.320 There's never...

03:54:33.960 Like if a girl was totally flat,

03:54:35.020 I wouldn't not date her because of that.

03:54:37.140 It's not...

03:54:37.840 I don't really care that much.

03:54:38.900 And then...

03:54:39.700 But also...

03:54:40.460 But it's like if she doesn't have a...

03:54:42.580 But I don't really care.

03:54:44.280 That's good.

03:54:44.620 It's all about the labia.

03:54:46.660 Yeah, labia is cool, I guess.

03:54:48.380 But yeah, I mean,

03:54:49.080 there's more important things, too.

03:54:50.400 I guess.

03:54:50.960 What about like the BBL bandits?

03:54:52.660 How do you feel about BBLs?

03:54:53.860 Oh, that would be...

03:54:54.620 That would actually be a situation

03:54:55.720 where I would probably not date a girl

03:54:58.380 if she had a BBL.

03:54:59.340 Or fake boobs.

03:55:00.460 No offense, Nikki.

03:55:01.180 That's okay.

03:55:01.920 Just, I don't know.

03:55:02.640 I don't really like the plastic thing.

03:55:03.880 They look like they're walking around

03:55:05.340 with filled up diapers.

03:55:06.480 It's gross.

03:55:07.060 The BBL?

03:55:08.080 Does anybody here have a BBL?

03:55:10.040 No?

03:55:10.720 I can't even get my teeth fixed.

03:55:13.200 One guy offered to pay for veneers for me.

03:55:16.640 And I said no.

03:55:17.460 Girl, you should have taken it.

03:55:17.980 You should have taken it.

03:55:18.960 Because he's not my type.

03:55:20.400 He's not my type.

03:55:21.100 I would have taken it.

03:55:22.000 The veneers don't have to be your type.

03:55:24.500 Listen, these things are expensive, okay?

03:55:26.200 Mine, fake.

03:55:27.320 Absolutely.

03:55:28.060 You have veneers?

03:55:28.820 I don't have veneers.

03:55:29.420 I have two bridges.

03:55:30.200 I was born without two of my teeth,

03:55:31.320 so I didn't really get much of a toy.

03:55:33.260 But yeah, Nikki, just I guess to answer your question totally,

03:55:36.020 small boobs, big boobs, both cool.

03:55:39.040 Big butt, small butt, both cool.

03:55:41.720 You wanted to ask Andrew this too?

03:55:43.380 Yeah, I want to hear what he says.

03:55:45.460 If you prefer ass or tits, which one do you like better?

03:55:49.800 So is this a question of have to choose?

03:55:52.960 Just your preference.

03:55:53.900 Do they either have a really, really nice rear, but flat,

03:55:58.660 or they have a really nice rack, but, you know, like, no butt?

03:56:02.680 Is that what the heart of the question is?

03:56:04.640 I think so, yeah.

03:56:05.700 Like, you know, if you were to have a girlfriend,

03:56:09.120 like, would you want, do you have an idea,

03:56:10.720 like, you'd want her to have a good body like that,

03:56:13.060 like a nice ass, or would you be kind of disappointed

03:56:14.760 if she had no ass?

03:56:16.960 Yeah, that would be a deal breaker for me, I think.

03:56:19.420 Yeah.

03:56:19.640 I feel like I'm done.

03:56:22.500 I respect the honesty.

03:56:23.600 I think another thing, another part.

03:56:26.460 I think that that, like, there's something about that,

03:56:30.080 I think, for even most men that,

03:56:32.640 and I think that it has to do with,

03:56:34.920 there's almost this Disney-esque image

03:56:38.640 that they tried to capture for years

03:56:40.240 of the hourglass figure of a woman.

03:56:42.540 And you can see in that hourglass figure

03:56:44.620 they're looking at kind of, you know, big rack, right?

03:56:49.720 With a skinny waist,

03:56:51.300 which moves into kind of a rounded hip area, right?

03:56:55.220 And the reason that this was something of ideal

03:56:58.380 is because all of those things kind of coexist

03:57:02.320 with the idea of childbirth.

03:57:05.000 So it's no wonder that so many men are attracted

03:57:09.800 to that type of figure,

03:57:11.560 because obviously the things that we're attracted to

03:57:15.940 would lead to reproduction,

03:57:17.440 otherwise we wouldn't be attracted to them generally, right?

03:57:19.540 So there's no doubt in my mind

03:57:21.820 that Disney tried to capture that image of the shape

03:57:25.100 because it's something that both men like

03:57:27.640 and women aspire to.

03:57:29.160 You had something.

03:57:30.400 Oh, yeah.

03:57:30.960 I think another thing that kind of comes into play, too,

03:57:33.260 is that you can grow your butt

03:57:36.840 by going to the gym

03:57:38.120 and doing certain exercises to grow your butt,

03:57:40.560 but if you want to grow your boobs,

03:57:41.900 who's, like, really the only option is plastic surgery.

03:57:44.620 Yeah.

03:57:45.940 Yup.

03:57:46.860 That is true.

03:57:48.280 Yeah.

03:57:48.620 And, like, I know there's only so much you can do in the gym, but...

03:57:51.520 Or you could get fat.

03:57:53.600 Mm-hmm.

03:57:54.060 Yeah.

03:57:54.460 But it's really hard to gain a weight there.

03:57:55.900 Or get pregnant and have a bunch of kids, so...

03:57:59.860 I just realized that this is going to be on the internet forever.

03:58:02.720 Mm-hmm.

03:58:03.180 Forever.

03:58:03.420 They actually do have this weight gain thing called a pedamen,

03:58:06.360 and it helps grow your boobs.

03:58:07.960 And it helps you...

03:58:08.460 Does it also grow other things?

03:58:09.860 Mm-hmm.

03:58:10.360 Mm-hmm.

03:58:10.520 Your penis?

03:58:11.680 I don't know.

03:58:12.340 Does it work for penises?

03:58:13.260 You should try it.

03:58:14.000 You should try it.

03:58:14.440 Let us know.

03:58:14.740 Thank you.

03:58:15.180 Thank you, Nick.

03:58:15.680 You appreciate it.

03:58:16.900 All right, so back to the whole rating thing.

03:58:20.140 I guess...

03:58:21.500 Let me see here.

03:58:23.840 Just to be clear, like, so you're 10, I'm an 8.

03:58:26.460 Just you'd be settling for me?

03:58:28.420 Mm-hmm.

03:58:28.640 I'd say.

03:58:29.320 I want someone...

03:58:30.480 Another thing, too, I'm looking for is lifestyle...

03:58:32.800 I was saying lifestyle compatibility earlier.

03:58:35.040 Like, I'm really into skincare.

03:58:37.300 I'm really into eating healthy, going to the gym.

03:58:39.320 Like, I take really good care of myself, so I want a guy who also does that.

03:58:43.760 Hmm.

03:58:44.420 Okay.

03:58:44.920 Okay.

03:58:46.540 So, anyways.

03:58:48.460 So, going around the table,

03:58:49.640 do you guys, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?

03:58:54.940 Look, physical looks, do you think they'll be better in 10 years' time?

03:58:57.620 So, you're 27.

03:58:59.340 Will you be better looking at 37?

03:59:01.660 I hope I look better at 37.

03:59:03.820 I just like to continually improve myself for me.

03:59:06.780 But, like, realistically, I'm probably going to look like trash.

03:59:09.220 I have a degenerative condition, so...

03:59:11.020 Okay.

03:59:11.420 And then you're...

03:59:12.100 I love that.

03:59:12.580 You're 27.

03:59:13.320 Do you think you're better looking at 18?

03:59:16.360 Absolutely not.

03:59:17.340 Okay.

03:59:17.560 I look like a hobgoblin at 18.

03:59:19.300 I've had the glow-up of glow-ups.

03:59:22.040 The glow-up of glow-ups.

03:59:23.420 Repulsive.

03:59:23.880 A hobgoblin.

03:59:24.480 Zero out of ten.

03:59:25.160 I would not recommend it.

03:59:26.740 Hobgoblin.

03:59:27.260 Okay.

03:59:28.240 Nikki, you're 25.

03:59:29.360 Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 35?

03:59:31.480 Yes, because I want to be a MILF by then, and everyone loves a good MILF.

03:59:34.460 I took some MILF.

03:59:36.360 I love that there's a button just for that.

03:59:37.900 There is just a little.

03:59:38.760 It was like opportunity.

03:59:39.380 It's a button for everything.

03:59:40.540 Boom.

03:59:40.560 Have it.

03:59:41.160 Yes.

03:59:41.960 Okay.

03:59:42.500 What about 20 years' time at 45?

03:59:44.420 Yeah.

03:59:44.860 I would just...

03:59:45.260 I want to keep my...

03:59:46.180 You know, I already have a fast metabolism, and I work out from, you know, my job, so I

03:59:50.580 like staying in shape.

03:59:51.920 Yeah.

03:59:52.140 What about 30 years' time at 55?

03:59:55.340 I better be looking this good still at 55.

03:59:57.880 Okay.

03:59:58.200 40 years' time at 65?

04:00:00.660 I hope I never let myself go.

04:00:02.540 I better...

04:00:03.100 You know, I would hope so.

04:00:04.180 Okay.

04:00:04.420 So, better looking at 65 versus now at 25?

04:00:06.660 No, no, no.

04:00:07.360 I don't think it...

04:00:08.000 I'd look...

04:00:08.320 Nobody's going to want me at 65.

04:00:09.860 Like, you know what I mean?

04:00:10.980 Like, everyone...

04:00:11.500 I don't know.

04:00:11.920 I'm not sure.

04:00:13.140 No, I feel like I definitely, like...

04:00:14.480 It's like some hundred-year-old who'd hit?

04:00:15.640 Probably at my prime, like, now in the next 10 years, and then after that, I think

04:00:20.280 it's...

04:00:20.920 But, just to be clear, the comparison still would be, you will, in 10 years' time, you'll

04:00:25.460 be better looking at 35 than you are now at 25?

04:00:27.900 Yeah, I feel like I could.

04:00:28.800 Okay.

04:00:29.360 And then 45 still?

04:00:30.480 45 better than 25?

04:00:31.700 I feel like I could, if I continue to work out.

04:00:35.240 Rachel, you were 19, better looking in 10 years' time at 29?

04:00:38.760 God, I hope so.

04:00:41.120 Well, regardless of your hope or God, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years'

04:00:46.860 time at 29?

04:00:48.180 Yeah, I do.

04:00:49.480 Okay.

04:00:49.640 And then 20 years' time at 39?

04:00:52.880 Yeah.

04:00:53.580 Okay.

04:00:53.980 30 years' time at 49?

04:00:55.860 Probably not.

04:00:56.800 Okay.

04:00:57.920 And then, Cassie, you're 31, better looking in 10 years' time at 41?

04:01:02.640 No.

04:01:03.300 And then you're 31, were you better looking 10 years ago at 21?

04:01:06.860 No, I was morbidly obese.

04:01:08.240 I was morbidly obese.

04:01:10.100 Okay.

04:01:10.580 So, no.

04:01:11.340 Sure.

04:01:12.000 Nothing wrong with being morbidly obese, but no.

04:01:14.880 Make that clear.

04:01:15.480 Well, your arteries probably disagree, but...

04:01:18.900 Not yours.

04:01:19.180 I was talking about physically attractive.

04:01:19.900 I mean, like, anybody obese in general.

04:01:23.200 Okay, whatever.

04:01:25.980 You're 23, better looking in 10 years' time at 33?

04:01:31.740 Better looking than now?

04:01:32.940 Probably not, but I'll still look good.

04:01:35.240 Still look good.

04:01:35.860 Fair enough.

04:01:36.800 And then...

04:01:37.240 I'm going to thank my black side for that.

04:01:38.860 All right.

04:01:39.860 You're 22, better looking in 10 years' time at 32?

04:01:42.880 I think I'll look better, because hopefully I'll have, like, big old pregnancy titties.

04:01:47.280 Mm-hmm.

04:01:47.720 Mm-hmm.

04:01:49.160 Word.

04:01:50.260 Okay.

04:01:51.880 What about...

04:01:52.760 What if you're not pregnant, though?

04:01:55.240 I don't know.

04:01:55.900 I think I look like I could still pass as a minor, so I would hope that I would look more like an adult by then.

04:02:02.700 What?

04:02:03.860 Second that one.

04:02:04.780 I agree with that.

04:02:05.280 Besides the tattoos, like...

04:02:07.020 Okay.

04:02:08.000 I feel like I look pretty young.

04:02:09.680 So, in any case, okay, you're 22 now.

04:02:12.460 Do you think you'll be better looking, as compared to now, in 10 years' time at 32?

04:02:16.440 I would hope I look more like a woman, so yes.

04:02:19.280 Okay.

04:02:19.720 What about 20 years' time?

04:02:21.660 42 versus 22?

04:02:22.760 No.

04:02:23.340 Definitely better now.

04:02:24.180 All right.

04:02:24.800 You're 33, better looking in 10 years' time at 43.

04:02:28.780 I mean, I plan on it, yeah.

04:02:30.220 I want to get better and better every year.

04:02:31.860 That's the goal.

04:02:33.020 Okay.

04:02:33.320 What about 20 in comparison to 33, better in 20 years' time at 53?

04:02:39.200 I mean, by then, too, it's...

04:02:41.300 I feel like by then, maybe medical technology and skin care will be a lot more advanced by then,

04:02:47.100 and healthy food will be better, so it's certainly not impossible.

04:02:51.280 Okay.

04:02:51.840 What about 30 years' time at 63?

04:02:54.480 Again, you know, same thing.

04:02:55.640 Technology is going to keep getting more and more advanced, and who knows?

04:02:58.880 Okay.

04:02:59.340 How about this?

04:03:02.100 Let's remove the possibility of you ever having any sort of cosmetic procedure or any sort of...

04:03:07.520 You can eat really good, whatever, totally fine,

04:03:09.960 but you can't use any sort of cosmetic intervention.

04:03:14.140 So, going back to 10 years' time, 43 versus now at 33?

04:03:18.860 I mean, if I couldn't do that, then yeah, probably not, but I would still look good.

04:03:23.060 Sure.

04:03:23.760 Okay.

04:03:24.220 And then you're 33 now.

04:03:25.420 Do you think you are better looking now at 33 than you were at 23?

04:03:29.060 Oh, definitely.

04:03:29.980 Like, I make a lot more money now.

04:03:31.700 I was broke when I was 23.

04:03:33.440 Like, I still looked good.

04:03:34.880 I still took care of myself as best as I could,

04:03:36.980 but, like, I didn't really have, I didn't have a lot of money to spend on healthy food

04:03:40.440 or good skin care or nice clothes, and I have that money now.

04:03:44.140 So, and I've just, I've gotten a lot more confidence since then, too.

04:03:47.620 I've really kind of found, like, my style and an aesthetic that I like,

04:03:50.960 and I think, yeah, I definitely think I look better now,

04:03:54.160 mainly because I love myself more and I have more money.

04:03:57.660 Okay.

04:03:57.960 But, so, when you say you're more successful, you mean, like, you're able to afford certain things that make you look better?

04:04:03.920 Is that what you're saying?

04:04:04.920 Yeah, absolutely.

04:04:05.840 Like, healthier food, better quality skin care, like, more expensive, nicer clothes, things like that,

04:04:10.620 which I could not afford when I was 23 because I was broke at the time.

04:04:14.400 Okay.

04:04:15.600 But, like, let's say you became a billionaire, and absent any cosmetic surgeries,

04:04:19.900 so, like, at 53, you would be able to buy, like, the best clothes and eat the best food.

04:04:26.460 Do you think you'll be better looking at 53 as a billionaire than now at 33?

04:04:32.240 I would say at least the same, probably.

04:04:36.100 The same?

04:04:37.420 Yeah, at least, yeah.

04:04:38.720 Do you think 30-year-olds typically look the same as 50-year-olds?

04:04:41.860 I would say if they're not billionaires, no.

04:04:44.240 How old is Jeff Bezos?

04:04:49.620 Trying to think.

04:04:50.600 He's, like, in his, is he almost 60?

04:04:53.720 I was going to say 80.

04:04:55.740 No, I think he's late.

04:04:57.160 Jeff Bezos is 60.

04:04:58.400 I don't think he was so old.

04:04:59.720 He obviously didn't work out.

04:05:02.400 Okay.

04:05:03.160 And then you're 26.

04:05:06.420 Better looking in 10 years' time at 36?

04:05:09.360 I seem to age backwards, so probably.

04:05:12.420 I'm just hoping, like she said, I just hope that I have, like, a curvier body and all that.

04:05:17.520 More milfy.

04:05:18.700 Okay.

04:05:19.020 Other than that.

04:05:19.920 Yeah.

04:05:20.420 My face stays the same.

04:05:21.460 I've looked the same since I was, like, 12.

04:05:23.560 Okay.

04:05:23.920 What about 20 years' time at 46?

04:05:27.160 Oh, yeah.

04:05:27.900 I'm going to be like Beyonce.

04:05:29.460 30 years' time, 56?

04:05:35.060 That might be when I start declining.

04:05:37.580 Like, the wrinkles will start showing.

04:05:39.460 That's the peak, like, kind of the peak, the end of the peak.

04:05:42.140 Okay.

04:05:42.320 Yeah.

04:05:43.380 Okay.

04:05:44.020 Do we have the age forward pictures?

04:05:47.780 We'll do both batches.

04:05:49.220 Oh, my.

04:05:50.220 We're going to do both batches.

04:05:52.400 You got all of them?

04:05:53.500 Did you account pregnancy for me?

04:05:55.280 No, we did not account for pregnancy, unfortunately.

04:05:58.520 All right.

04:05:59.060 Oh, good shit.

04:06:00.260 Oh, this is so funny.

04:06:02.320 Babe status.

04:06:03.420 Okay, next.

04:06:04.760 Oh, God.

04:06:05.260 I don't want to see it.

04:06:05.680 Ew.

04:06:06.980 Ew.

04:06:08.380 Okay.

04:06:08.820 That's so bad.

04:06:09.260 Next.

04:06:09.740 I'm so scared.

04:06:10.840 Me too.

04:06:12.300 All right.

04:06:12.980 That's scary.

04:06:13.900 You look like you work at the front desk of an elementary school for some.

04:06:17.840 I don't know.

04:06:18.160 I feel that.

04:06:18.760 I do see that.

04:06:19.540 Yeah, I'm, like, a librarian.

04:06:20.840 You could be a good librarian.

04:06:21.800 FBB lady.

04:06:22.500 Yeah.

04:06:23.120 DMV?

04:06:23.660 I'll take it.

04:06:24.260 Next.

04:06:24.500 DMV.

04:06:25.440 DMV.

04:06:26.040 Ugly faces.

04:06:27.940 Oh.

04:06:28.300 Oh, it's kind of the same.

04:06:29.440 Exactly.

04:06:29.940 Yeah.

04:06:30.620 Wow.

04:06:31.100 All right.

04:06:31.860 Cool.

04:06:32.220 Next.

04:06:32.780 Okay.

04:06:33.180 Okay, I look, I look normal.

04:06:38.880 I kind of look like the same.

04:06:40.060 Okay, next.

04:06:43.240 That's how mine's going to look.

04:06:44.100 Okay, next.

04:06:46.820 Oh, shit.

04:06:47.580 Damn.

04:06:48.540 Oh, God.

04:06:49.360 Sheesh.

04:06:50.300 So, wait.

04:06:51.220 Which one?

04:06:51.720 Just, wait.

04:06:52.420 Oh, hold on.

04:06:53.400 Wait, wait, wait.

04:06:54.100 I'm sorry.

04:06:54.540 I'm so sorry to do this.

04:06:56.260 Can you go back to the first one?

04:06:58.080 I'm, I'll get through them quick, but I just realized something I should do.

04:07:01.900 First one?

04:07:02.520 Sure.

04:07:03.520 Yeah.

04:07:03.860 And then we'll go through it again.

04:07:05.100 Pull it up.

04:07:06.160 As, before you do it, as we're going through, I want you to, you to tell me which one you

04:07:11.940 think is better looking.

04:07:13.140 Okay?

04:07:13.480 Pull it up.

04:07:15.020 Left or right?

04:07:16.440 Oh, yeah.

04:07:16.860 The right is so much.

04:07:18.040 No, yeah.

04:07:18.560 The left one looks more youthful.

04:07:21.260 Obviously the left.

04:07:22.380 Make it bigger.

04:07:22.940 I look scary in the right one.

04:07:24.900 Okay.

04:07:26.100 Next.

04:07:26.600 Yeah, they kind of did you dirty on that one.

04:07:27.860 He did.

04:07:28.360 They really did.

04:07:29.160 Kind of did you dirty on that one, I think.

04:07:30.920 He did.

04:07:31.620 Why'd your eyes be in the right one?

04:07:32.660 Definitely the left.

04:07:33.940 Okay, next.

04:07:35.700 Surprisingly, I like both of them because I don't really look that bad.

04:07:40.300 There's not much more.

04:07:41.160 Next.

04:07:41.800 Yeah.

04:07:44.060 I can't really see, but yeah, left.

04:07:46.180 Okay.

04:07:46.880 Get the scroll of prescription.

04:07:48.320 You want some reading glasses or something?

04:07:49.860 I can hook it up.

04:07:50.380 It's legitimately, like, barely different.

04:07:51.680 I literally, I forgot mine.

04:07:53.460 It's okay.

04:07:53.840 Next.

04:07:54.080 Next.

04:07:55.440 Definitely the left, bro.

04:07:57.080 Okay, next.

04:07:57.840 Oh, my God.

04:07:58.100 You look like your mom.

04:07:59.260 Which one?

04:07:59.600 Yeah.

04:08:00.580 Left or right?

04:08:01.340 Which one do you prefer?

04:08:01.940 I look rough.

04:08:03.520 I'm making sure, I'm going to make sure I do not look like that.

04:08:06.120 Okay.

04:08:06.700 Good luck, I guess.

04:08:07.820 All right.

04:08:08.280 20 years time.

04:08:09.080 All right.

04:08:10.120 So, left is better looking.

04:08:11.500 Yeah.

04:08:11.760 Yeah, definitely.

04:08:12.700 Go ahead.

04:08:13.080 I'm gone.

04:08:14.720 Left, for sure.

04:08:15.660 Left.

04:08:15.820 Okay.

04:08:16.000 And then there's a second batch you said you have?

04:08:17.460 Why didn't you make my chin bigger?

04:08:18.760 Next.

04:08:21.780 What's happening?

04:08:22.260 Big, big, big, big, big, big, big.

04:08:23.620 Is that younger?

04:08:24.580 What is that?

04:08:25.460 Is that younger?

04:08:26.620 Bigger?

04:08:27.040 I'm going to be here for it, but whatever I need.

04:08:29.320 There we go.

04:08:29.740 Let's do it like that.

04:08:30.620 Can we do one with Botox?

04:08:31.480 Can I at least know how we're roasting me before we roast me?

04:08:34.000 No.

04:08:35.360 Which one?

04:08:36.020 Left or right?

04:08:36.560 Is that backwards?

04:08:38.100 There's a lot of crow's feet going on in the right picture.

04:08:40.760 Also, like, have you seen the, like, weird eye trick where they, like, turn your eyes

04:08:44.260 upside down and it makes you look funky?

04:08:45.340 Oh, my God, I see it.

04:08:46.060 I kind of look like that.

04:08:47.260 I see it.

04:08:48.020 Yeah, well, it's AI, so.

04:08:50.220 Left or right?

04:08:51.540 Left.

04:08:52.200 Okay.

04:08:52.720 Next.

04:08:53.880 Ew.

04:08:54.640 The left.

04:08:55.360 Why do they do that?

04:08:55.860 What the hell is it?

04:08:56.540 Why?

04:08:57.560 I don't even know.

04:08:58.620 Why is it?

04:08:59.060 They, like, changed my race.

04:09:02.840 Like, I don't even know.

04:09:03.320 Oh, my God, she's got a nose job in this one.

04:09:05.760 Like, what's going on here?

04:09:06.680 Bigger.

04:09:07.240 Yeah.

04:09:07.720 Why did her tattoo just completely?

04:09:09.560 Okay.

04:09:10.040 Boob still look good.

04:09:10.820 Your necklace is different?

04:09:12.860 What the fuck?

04:09:14.240 What?

04:09:14.360 In the upside down eyes?

04:09:15.760 Next.

04:09:16.280 It's kind of tricky looking.

04:09:17.820 Oh.

04:09:18.160 Like a skinwalker.

04:09:19.180 You know what?

04:09:19.740 Why did you get blue eyes on this one?

04:09:22.000 Check for a second.

04:09:22.600 That don't look bad.

04:09:23.080 Okay, next.

04:09:23.900 Left or right?

04:09:25.580 Left or right?

04:09:26.540 Oh, definitely right.

04:09:28.460 Wait, you look cute.

04:09:28.900 Really?

04:09:29.480 Yeah, you look really good.

04:09:30.220 I can't.

04:09:30.640 Maybe, but, yeah.

04:09:31.860 Yo, give her your glasses.

04:09:33.120 Give her a shot.

04:09:33.900 Honestly, you're not far.

04:09:35.100 It's not bad.

04:09:35.800 No, it looks really good, actually.

04:09:37.060 Next.

04:09:37.460 In comparison to everyone else.

04:09:38.620 My skin looks shiny.

04:09:39.280 Oh, what the fuck?

04:09:39.940 Oh, my God.

04:09:41.240 Glow up.

04:09:41.960 Yeah.

04:09:42.700 Shit.

04:09:42.900 You said glow up.

04:09:44.540 You said glow up.

04:09:45.740 I feel like that's just a little bit better.

04:09:47.540 How about this one?

04:09:49.440 Definitely.

04:09:49.920 You look different.

04:09:50.460 Isn't that bad?

04:09:51.140 Yeah.

04:09:51.360 Actually, it's better than the other one.

04:09:53.100 Yeah.

04:09:53.800 If I look like that when I'm, like, 80, that would be good.

04:09:57.040 80?

04:09:57.660 80 or 70, maybe.

04:10:00.540 What's this filthy supposed to be?

04:10:02.520 Yeah, what is this supposed to be?

04:10:03.620 AI.

04:10:03.980 Oh.

04:10:05.860 Wow.

04:10:06.660 Yeah, it's not bad.

04:10:07.420 She likes herself on the ride.

04:10:09.160 I like them both.

04:10:09.680 Yeah.

04:10:10.740 Is there more?

04:10:11.800 Did they do me?

04:10:12.620 I was just going to say that.

04:10:13.700 One of your eyes is a different guy.

04:10:15.360 That's it?

04:10:15.920 That's actually so my personality.

04:10:17.580 Is there more?

04:10:18.480 Phil.

04:10:19.080 There's another one?

04:10:19.740 My multiple personalities are showing.

04:10:21.400 What is it?

04:10:22.180 I got 12.

04:10:22.960 Oh, okay.

04:10:25.180 Is it safe?

04:10:26.920 Do you want it?

04:10:27.900 No, it's not.

04:10:29.740 There's not, like, TOS, is it?

04:10:32.200 Me too.

04:10:32.900 No.

04:10:33.660 Okay, fuck it.

04:10:34.280 Pull it up, bro.

04:10:36.040 It's not, like, nudity, right?

04:10:37.660 It's not, like, some fucked up weird shit, right?

04:10:39.800 No.

04:10:41.220 All right.

04:10:43.120 Bro, what the fuck?

04:10:44.180 Oh, my God.

04:10:45.880 Yo.

04:10:47.600 Hey, dude.

04:10:49.140 It's cute.

04:10:49.940 It's a cute picture.

04:10:50.120 Is that fucking ghost?

04:10:51.320 Who did that shit?

04:10:52.960 Bro.

04:10:54.740 It's a cute picture.

04:10:55.840 I like it.

04:10:56.680 You know what?

04:10:57.120 I thought it was real.

04:10:57.720 I thought it was real.

04:10:58.200 That's actually a real picture, bro.

04:11:01.280 It's actually a real picture.

04:11:03.500 Yeah.

04:11:04.140 Shit.

04:11:05.340 There's an indie.

04:11:05.980 No, I'm just kidding.

04:11:07.580 Ah, okay.

04:11:08.220 Where are we?

04:11:09.440 Where are we?

04:11:09.860 Where are we?

04:11:11.440 We need to get through.

04:11:13.100 Oh, we're going to get into the questionnaire, finally.

04:11:15.460 Going to get into the questionnaire.

04:11:18.000 So, here's the juicy stuff, right?

04:11:20.500 I feel like we were all confused for this.

04:11:22.120 I'm excited to see how many I accidentally circled.

04:11:23.460 Actually, you know what?

04:11:25.080 Yeah.

04:11:26.460 Who here wants cold pizza?

04:11:29.420 Anybody?

04:11:29.600 I mean, I'll eat a slice.

04:11:31.160 Anybody?

04:11:31.580 Maybe, yeah.

04:11:32.080 Maybe we do, like, a little intermission with the roast session, I think.

04:11:35.400 Could be warranted just a little roast.

04:11:37.160 Are we being roasted?

04:11:37.660 I want to be roasted.

04:11:38.340 I want to be roasted.

04:11:39.400 You want cold pepperoni pizza?

04:11:42.220 Sure.

04:11:42.860 Yeah?

04:11:43.300 Is anyone going to be offended if I pick the pepperoni out?

04:11:45.620 I'm okay.

04:11:46.120 Thank you, though.

04:11:46.500 No?

04:11:47.540 No?

04:11:48.100 So, yes, yes, yes, yes.

04:11:50.860 Yeah.

04:11:51.400 Yes, yes.

04:11:52.460 Okay.

04:11:52.860 Yeah, we'll do it.

04:11:54.160 While I'm going to go get that out prepped with my servant, a dog.

04:11:59.680 Servant.

04:12:01.000 Assistant.

04:12:02.320 Sorry.

04:12:03.040 I think you said my bad.

04:12:03.420 Wipe that from the screen.

04:12:04.260 Not my servant.

04:12:04.600 I kind of didn't even hear it.

04:12:06.560 Servant.

04:12:07.200 Servant, lady.

04:12:07.780 I totally thought it was just joking.

04:12:08.960 So, Andrew, what is a, you know what, Andrew?

04:12:13.720 Why don't you ask them a really thought-provoking question?

04:12:19.020 Politics.

04:12:19.680 While I get this pizza served up.

04:12:21.780 Actually, before I get up, though, guys, during this little, it's going to be a pizza roast

04:12:27.060 session.

04:12:27.860 We're going to do 69.

04:12:29.480 If you guys want to get a roast in, we're going to do a $69 TTS during the pizza intermission.

04:12:36.280 If you want to get it in, get it in.

04:12:38.260 It's going to be $69 TTS.

04:12:41.820 Andrew, take it away, good sir.

04:12:44.300 Yeah.

04:12:44.580 So, quick question for the panel.

04:12:46.680 And we can start with chair one moving around.

04:12:48.880 If, now I know you guys only compare yourselves to your own standards, but within your own

04:12:54.920 standards, right, who would be the woman that you would point to as being the set standard

04:13:02.500 for what you would consider all attractive women to be compared against?

04:13:06.680 Like, in the room?

04:13:07.760 Whoever it is.

04:13:08.960 Like, in the room, or?

04:13:10.680 No, no, no.

04:13:11.280 Oh, okay.

04:13:11.520 No.

04:13:11.780 Just in general.

04:13:12.960 Oh, I legitimately don't have one, and I know you're going to say that's not the right

04:13:15.980 answer, but it's just purely TTSM.

04:13:18.600 No, yeah, there's no one.

04:13:19.260 So, like, I would say, like, Zendaya.

04:13:20.900 Yeah, like.

04:13:21.740 Zendaya.

04:13:22.320 Yeah, hang on.

04:13:22.940 Let's go one at a time.

04:13:23.940 Okay.

04:13:24.200 Going around the table.

04:13:25.180 Next.

04:13:28.420 Ariana Grande.

04:13:29.780 Oh, yeah.

04:13:30.220 Ariana Grande.

04:13:31.000 Yeah.

04:13:31.160 Okay, next.

04:13:32.120 Renee Rapp.

04:13:34.820 Who's Renee Rapp?

04:13:35.940 She's, like, a musician, but she also did, like, musicals and acting.

04:13:41.200 She kind of does a lot.

04:13:44.280 Okay.

04:13:44.820 Next.

04:13:45.880 My first grade teacher.

04:13:48.700 Oh, wow.

04:13:49.040 Yeah, like, someone, a famous person, let's say.

04:13:51.640 Oh, a famous person.

04:13:53.360 Like, just based on looks?

04:13:55.040 Yeah.

04:13:56.020 Yeah, whoever you would, if you picture this person, this famous person, this would be

04:14:02.120 what you would compare the beauty standard of all women against.

04:14:08.160 Beyonce.

04:14:08.520 Like, kind of your perfect beauty standard.

04:14:10.980 Go ahead.

04:14:12.080 Beyonce.

04:14:13.580 Beyonce.

04:14:14.180 Okay.

04:14:14.660 Next.

04:14:15.440 I said Zendaya.

04:14:17.560 Zendaya.

04:14:18.540 Madeline Klein.

04:14:20.500 Okay.

04:14:20.740 Yeah.

04:14:21.940 Oh, any of the Victoria's Secret angels, all of them.

04:14:25.440 Like, like Bella?

04:14:27.540 Yeah, or, like, like, Elsa Hosk or Adriana Lima.

04:14:31.640 Mm-hmm.

04:14:32.600 Kendall.

04:14:32.760 Yeah, all of them.

04:14:34.380 Next.

04:14:35.360 Megan Fox.

04:14:36.800 Oh, good one.

04:14:37.480 Really?

04:14:37.900 Megan Fox?

04:14:38.040 Megan Fox.

04:14:39.000 She's beautiful.

04:14:39.720 Something.

04:14:40.360 Like, young Megan.

04:14:41.540 Yeah, young Megan.

04:14:43.260 Gotcha.

04:14:43.860 Okay.

04:14:44.720 So, the follow-up question to this is, if you think that you look anything like the women

04:14:51.720 that you just cited, go ahead and raise your hand.

04:14:56.040 A little bit.

04:14:58.760 A little bit?

04:15:00.660 A little bit.

04:15:02.120 Yeah?

04:15:02.620 So, like, if we pulled up a picture of her right now?

04:15:05.040 Yeah.

04:15:05.500 Oh, yeah, definitely.

04:15:06.420 You would look a lot like her?

04:15:07.540 Yeah.

04:15:07.760 I can see it.

04:15:08.160 Yeah.

04:15:08.380 I can see it.

04:15:09.000 For sure.

04:15:09.440 Definitely.

04:15:10.760 Okay.

04:15:11.600 Gotcha.

04:15:12.600 And then, uh, the...

04:15:15.300 Oh, it looks like pizza's being served here.

04:15:19.760 Like, somewhat, I guess.

04:15:22.720 Somewhat?

04:15:23.320 Yeah.

04:15:24.180 A little bit?

04:15:26.140 Somewhat.

04:15:27.320 Yeah?

04:15:28.120 Yeah.

04:15:28.340 No, it looks confident.

04:15:29.640 Yeah.

04:15:30.400 Now...

04:15:30.720 No, because he's even less confident.

04:15:32.040 Okay, okay, fair enough.

04:15:33.020 The follow-up question to this is, if you consider all of these women to be tens, and you declared

04:15:40.800 yourself to be a eight, nine, or ten, how could you be an eight, nine, or ten if these beautiful

04:15:46.740 women...

04:15:46.860 No, I said ten.

04:15:48.100 I said ten.

04:15:48.760 Yeah.

04:15:49.120 Okay, great.

04:15:49.880 How could you be a ten if the most beautiful woman that you could think of, you're less attractive

04:15:54.700 than her?

04:15:55.980 No.

04:15:56.360 I have a point on that.

04:15:57.820 I think there's so many different types of beautiful women.

04:16:00.320 She was just the easiest one to come up.

04:16:01.820 Let's have her answer, and then we'll move up right over.

04:16:03.460 Okay.

04:16:03.680 Okay.

04:16:04.220 Go ahead.

04:16:06.560 Wait, say it again.

04:16:07.160 Sorry, say it again?

04:16:07.900 Are you more or less attractive than this woman?

04:16:11.120 I would say...

04:16:12.280 Well, yeah, I would say...

04:16:13.720 Same level.

04:16:14.620 Yeah, I would say same level.

04:16:15.780 Like, because I think I'm...

04:16:17.280 I literally personally think I'm really fucking pretty, so I personally think that, but someone

04:16:21.780 else can disagree with me, you know what I mean?

04:16:23.660 And I think...

04:16:24.660 Well, do you disagree with you?

04:16:25.560 No, I don't.

04:16:25.980 You said that she's the standard of all beauty, right?

04:16:29.680 Yeah.

04:16:30.560 Yeah.

04:16:31.700 Okay, because I got...

04:16:33.140 Give me this chick's name again.

04:16:35.400 Zendaya.

04:16:37.260 With a Z?

04:16:38.380 Yeah.

04:16:39.620 Okay.

04:16:40.260 How do you not know who Zendaya is?

04:16:42.200 Yeah, I don't know.

04:16:42.880 I don't know.

04:16:43.220 She played in the movie Dune.

04:16:44.560 I don't know an artist.

04:16:45.320 Played the movie in Dune with Timothee Chalamet.

04:16:49.700 You don't look anything like this chick.

04:16:52.000 Like, you look nothing at all like this chick.

04:16:55.940 What are you smoking...

04:16:57.080 You don't look anything like this.

04:16:58.280 Oh my God, you a hater.

04:17:00.260 You a hater.

04:17:01.900 What?

04:17:02.460 Wait.

04:17:02.700 Let me see.

04:17:03.260 Let me see it.

04:17:04.320 What?

04:17:04.880 Pull up a picture of Zendaya.

04:17:06.680 You gotta pull up a picture.

04:17:07.540 Wait.

04:17:07.560 Andrew, when you say she doesn't...

04:17:09.000 This is ridiculous.

04:17:09.100 When you say she doesn't look like her, like, you said...

04:17:12.800 Sorry.

04:17:13.360 Zendaya's, like, really attractive.

04:17:14.580 Is that what you're saying?

04:17:15.900 Yeah.

04:17:16.160 Yeah, you're better looking than her.

04:17:17.660 Yeah.

04:17:18.040 Thank you.

04:17:19.020 Yeah, you're better looking than her.

04:17:19.980 How would you hold her to the...

04:17:21.960 How would you hold her to the standard of all-female beauty?

04:17:26.520 I think because she is, like, very, like, she has a very light skin, and then also she's

04:17:32.000 very tall, and her body's slim, and she has amazing hair, and amazing skin, and amazing

04:17:37.760 eyebrows, and, like, yes, and that's why.

04:17:40.600 And she doesn't wear a lot of makeup.

04:17:41.920 And she's also very natural with her makeup all the time.

04:17:44.580 Like, she doesn't go all the way out.

04:17:45.840 Like, she doesn't...

04:17:46.200 Yeah, she's very natural.

04:17:46.960 You can see her on her perfect 10?

04:17:48.240 Yeah, she's, like...

04:17:48.980 I like how natural she is.

04:17:50.280 She's all, like...

04:17:50.980 She's not only, like, yeah.

04:17:51.900 She's all natural.

04:17:52.560 That's why I like her.

04:17:53.080 And her personality, too.

04:17:53.920 Mm-hmm.

04:17:55.380 Okay.

04:17:55.720 All right, so going over to the...

04:17:57.500 Who else said that they were a 10?

04:18:01.160 You.

04:18:01.800 Okay, and who did you say was the beauty standard from which you would compare all women?

04:18:07.280 Well, I said the Victoria's Secret Angels.

04:18:10.640 Yeah, which one, though?

04:18:12.240 Any of them?

04:18:13.660 All of them, really.

04:18:15.180 Which one?

04:18:15.660 You have one in mind, though?

04:18:17.160 Probably, uh, there's Elsa Hosk, or Adriana Lima, or Yasmin.

04:18:23.180 Yasmin Tookes.

04:18:23.980 And do you think you look like any of these women?

04:18:29.400 I'd say...

04:18:30.360 Yeah, kinda, yeah.

04:18:32.320 Which one?

04:18:33.680 Probably, uh, probably Elsa, the blonde one.

04:18:36.800 And it's, uh, Elsa Hosk?

04:18:38.840 Yeah.

04:18:40.820 Okay, let's take a look.

04:18:42.480 I want to change my answer, too.

04:18:44.060 Now you guys want to change your answer.

04:18:47.120 Mm-hmm.

04:18:48.880 All right, let's take a look.

04:18:55.160 You, again, you look nothing at all like this one.

04:18:58.840 Like, not even a little bit.

04:19:01.020 That's okay.

04:19:03.360 Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not even to say that she's more or less attractive.

04:19:07.360 It's just, how do you, like, how do you guys see similarities and features between different

04:19:13.780 women who don't look anything like you?

04:19:17.240 Wait, the question is a beautiful one.

04:19:19.940 You want to give us a look-alike?

04:19:22.040 Can you do, can you do, Janae, I'd go with me a look-alike.

04:19:25.340 Hang on, guys, I have the audio piece in, I can only hear one at a time.

04:19:28.560 What were you saying?

04:19:30.540 Do you want to give us a look-alike?

04:19:32.080 Like, tell us who you think we look like?

04:19:34.440 Please do that.

04:19:34.960 Well, I don't know.

04:19:35.680 I'm not very good with faces, but, um, especially, like, famous women, because I just don't care

04:19:40.720 that much, but when I look at the picture of who it is that you're saying you look like,

04:19:46.100 and I'm trying to look at it and, like, oh, they snapped a picture of her in her glam,

04:19:52.060 and then they snapped a picture of her when she's not, and thus far, you guys really don't

04:19:57.540 look anything like these women you hold to all, nothing.

04:20:00.600 You don't look anything like this woman, nothing.

04:20:02.760 Can you, can you look up Janae Aiko?

04:20:06.240 Oh, yeah, yeah, that is.

04:20:09.800 Can you, can you look up Janae Aiko?

04:20:11.200 So I feel like she's definitely, I feel like, would look similar to me, more so than Ariana.

04:20:17.120 I know, I feel the same way.

04:20:18.700 I only said her, because she's the blonde one, like, Adriana Lima and Jasmine aren't blonde.

04:20:23.700 Who do we think are, like, do we look like them?

04:20:25.980 Oh, okay, I don't think I look like Beyonce.

04:20:29.100 I think Beyonce's pretty, though.

04:20:30.980 Yeah, that's what the question was.

04:20:32.240 Oh, okay, so, who, um, okay, so I'd like to change, can I change my answer?

04:20:37.460 Yeah, but can you tell me what you think the question was?

04:20:40.180 Yeah.

04:20:40.380 Um, like, who do we think is pretty, like a 10?

04:20:44.480 Yeah, so, who would you consider the standard of all female beauty to be compared to?

04:20:50.980 So this is going to be what you consider, like, kind of the perfect woman that you would compare yourself to.

04:20:56.260 And then the second question was, who do we look like?

04:20:58.700 Was that the second question?

04:20:59.720 No, no, no.

04:21:00.380 My second question was, for those of you who are 10s,

04:21:02.840 if you're a 10 and this woman who you stated was the kind of epitome of perfect beauty, do you look like them?

04:21:12.540 And the answer from both 10s was yes.

04:21:14.740 And then when we went and looked, they don't look anything like them.

04:21:18.280 It's just really weird.

04:21:20.060 I don't, like, nothing like them.

04:21:22.040 Yeah.

04:21:22.560 I think I'm a 10 in inner beauty.

04:21:25.600 Like, I try to be a good person.

04:21:27.600 But does inner beauty count at all or no?

04:21:31.060 I don't think he cares about that.

04:21:32.800 Yeah.

04:21:33.060 He really doesn't care.

04:21:34.220 Okay.

04:21:34.520 So, like, if you're trying to be a good person, like, that doesn't mean anything.

04:21:39.780 Got it.

04:21:40.420 Okay.

04:21:40.900 Yeah.

04:21:41.140 Well, we're just looking for a physical standard.

04:21:44.040 So, yes, I'm sure that there's wonderful people who have tons of inner beauty.

04:21:50.240 And, you know, there's, like, multiple burn victims at the ER who are just, like, the most internally beautiful people on planet Earth.

04:21:57.180 But we're just looking for kind of the external physical here.

04:22:00.940 Because, like, I, so, I have girls, and I'm not going to say their name, that, like, talk to me.

04:22:07.100 And I would say these girls are 10s.

04:22:09.160 But then they go on, like, boats and they have guys, like, you know, they do things with guys, which is fine.

04:22:15.720 And then they get paid, like, maybe $2,000 or $5,000.

04:22:20.220 And they feel like crap about themselves.

04:22:23.320 And then they're telling me how they feel like crap about themselves.

04:22:26.380 And I would say, like, well, if you want to feel good about yourself, then you shouldn't do that.

04:22:33.040 But then those men pay those women to do that stuff.

04:22:36.480 So, it's, like, beauty is good and amazing.

04:22:40.000 But, like, some people, they feel ugly on the inside for what they do because they have beauty, which is, like, social currency, you know.

04:22:49.420 So, I don't know if anything I'm saying is making any sense, but.

04:22:53.300 Well, it makes sense.

04:22:54.680 It just doesn't really have anything to do with the question.

04:22:56.860 Okay.

04:22:57.420 The question, the question ultimately, right.

04:23:00.160 So, for instance, what do you guys, why do you guys think we ask the 1 to 10 question?

04:23:05.060 Do you think it's, like, just to be mean or cruel or horrible?

04:23:08.320 Why do you think we ask the question?

04:23:10.960 Anybody know?

04:23:11.780 Probably because.

04:23:12.420 I think you want to see how, like, out of touch each person is and if they're just, like, you know.

04:23:19.420 Maybe we need to see how much we value ourselves.

04:23:21.360 Yeah, that's a feeling.

04:23:22.040 Well, you remember when I asked who had dated a narcissist and basically everybody raised their hand?

04:23:26.660 Mm-hmm.

04:23:27.520 Yeah.

04:23:28.260 Well, kind of a thing about narcissism is self-aggrandizement, right?

04:23:33.720 Mm-hmm.

04:23:34.080 And isn't it interesting to see how many people have beauty standards, especially women, have a beauty standard where they put themselves in the highest echelons of beauty up there with the most beautiful women who exist on planet Earth?

04:23:48.680 That would be, like, an 8, 9, or 10.

04:23:51.400 Doesn't that seem slightly narcissistic or?

04:23:53.760 No, but it's also.

04:23:55.140 Confidence.

04:23:55.680 Yeah, just saying that you consider yourself beautiful doesn't make you a narcissist.

04:23:59.400 It's just your personal opinion because you, anyone in this room can have the totally opposite for me.

04:24:03.560 I don't think it makes you a narcissist to say you're beautiful, but perhaps, wouldn't you say it's a narcissistic tendency to say you're among the most beautiful in the world?

04:24:12.020 But you asked for who, you asked for our opinion.

04:24:15.300 Yeah.

04:24:15.780 We're all going to have different opinions.

04:24:17.440 Well, if the beauty threshold can only go up to 10.

04:24:21.020 Yeah.

04:24:21.360 And nothing can be higher than that.

04:24:23.100 But, again, that's our opinion.

04:24:24.460 Hang on, hang on.

04:24:24.720 And nothing can be higher than that.

04:24:26.700 Then if you say you're a 10, you put yourself in the threshold with the most beautiful women on Earth, right?

04:24:32.860 Mm-hmm.

04:24:34.040 That's not slightly narcissistic.

04:24:36.620 But, again, I'm not going to argue about the fact that it was my opinion.

04:24:40.220 I think what she's saying is, like, if everyone answered the way I did, then it would be much different.

04:24:44.260 Yeah, like, if we all had the same answer, yes.

04:24:46.420 It's supposed to be your opinion.

04:24:48.740 That's the point.

04:24:49.420 But the point is, is that when you look at the kind of standard that often women have where they put themselves up in such a high threshold, I am amongst the most beautiful on planet Earth, right?

04:25:02.400 But at the same time, they say, well, I've dated a bunch of narcissists.

04:25:06.140 It's like, well, I don't know.

04:25:07.000 It sounds kind of narcissistic to me.

04:25:09.700 If you say so, yeah.

04:25:10.660 I guess I'm narcissistic.

04:25:11.700 I never said I wasn't a narcissist.

04:25:13.560 So I'm definitely a narcissist.

04:25:15.200 Sometimes, maybe, maybe, in a situation, in a certain situation.

04:25:19.400 Well, okay, so last question, then, I guess, before we turn it over to Brian and the Rose.

04:25:23.500 Can you raise your hand if you think you're a narcissist?

04:25:26.120 I think I have narcissistic tendencies.

04:25:27.700 In this situation, yes, I'm a narcissist.

04:25:28.800 What if someone told you that they think you are?

04:25:32.160 Does that?

04:25:32.880 Okay, yeah, that's a good question, too.

04:25:35.040 Has anybody ever said you're a narcissist?

04:25:37.160 Raise your hand for that.

04:25:39.420 Just one?

04:25:40.720 Yeah, no.

04:25:42.100 I think I've heard it only once.

04:25:45.200 All right.

04:25:46.000 Well, let's see here.

04:25:47.720 We have some chats coming through.

04:25:49.860 Thank you, Dylan.

04:25:51.160 Dylan Joe donated $69.

04:25:54.160 Ho, ho, ho.

04:25:55.480 I hope ST.nick brings Andrew a new M18 for Christmas and Santa bans labioplasty for Brian.

04:26:01.980 Hopefully, Maddie got a new job in Santa's workshop, the panel misses you.

04:26:07.440 Who at the panel would bang Santa?

04:26:09.440 Just a show of hands, who would bang Santa Claus?

04:26:12.820 He's too old for me.

04:26:13.820 He does not identify as a cis male.

04:26:15.980 He's like transgender Santa Claus.

04:26:16.380 Well, wait a second.

04:26:18.320 Hang on.

04:26:19.120 If the Twilight vampire guy can be 600 and all the chicks want to bang him,

04:26:25.000 then if Santa Claus is 1,000, you don't have a leg to stand on here, right?

04:26:28.320 But I don't want to find him.

04:26:29.860 But he looks 1,000.

04:26:31.700 No, he looks 1,000.

04:26:32.940 That's fair.

04:26:34.340 Yeah, that does make a difference.

04:26:35.760 We'll take care of him.

04:26:36.240 It does make a difference, I think, yeah.

04:26:41.700 You guys all done?

04:26:42.780 Mm-hmm.

04:26:43.220 Nikki, take your time.

04:26:44.000 That's fine.

04:26:44.700 Thank you, Dylan Joe.

04:26:45.920 Would you guys bang Santa Claus, though?

04:26:47.460 I did the original.

04:26:48.220 No, no.

04:26:49.160 None of us are, yeah.

04:26:49.920 You know, speaking of which, Roth donated $69.

04:26:54.520 I'm so glad you said eyebrows.

04:26:56.860 Hashtag eyebrows matter and natural.

04:27:00.000 Don't pluck or draw eyebrows.

04:27:02.220 Thank you, Raph.

04:27:02.680 Thank you.

04:27:03.500 Go ahead, Andrew.

04:27:04.060 You had something?

04:27:04.740 Well, I was just going to ask very briefly,

04:27:06.820 how come you think that women didn't overwhelmingly come out against Twilight

04:27:10.980 for promoting that, like, a 400-year-old dude was dating a 16-year-old?

04:27:15.860 How come, like, wouldn't that be bad for society to promote that?

04:27:20.960 Hmm.

04:27:22.280 Yes.

04:27:22.520 Kind of gross.

04:27:23.460 Kind of gross.

04:27:24.800 Hmm.

04:27:25.720 Age gap relationship.

04:27:26.600 But he is technically 16.

04:27:27.980 Quite the age gap, yeah.

04:27:29.100 But he's just been 16 for a long time.

04:27:30.980 He's not a man, though.

04:27:32.280 He's a vampire.

04:27:34.900 Supernatural.

04:27:38.160 Because it's a loophole.

04:27:39.300 The laws don't apply for him.

04:27:41.060 Exactly.

04:27:41.640 There's no laws for vampires.

04:27:43.180 Well, and then I do want to just also point out that the love triangle was between that

04:27:48.180 and a guy who turned into a dog.

04:27:49.920 Man, this was overwhelmingly saw by women all over the world,

04:27:53.920 and they just adored it.

04:27:54.880 I just want to point that out.

04:27:56.040 Hmm.

04:27:57.280 Lucas donated $100.

04:27:59.940 Hey, man, hater, harpy, and sage dot one.

04:28:02.960 Can you woman's plane how you like them?

04:28:05.120 Big ol' lay orange dump nuts juggling in your mouth.

04:28:08.060 What?

04:28:08.300 Take her back of mind via the script and slither off into the dustbin of history.

04:28:12.740 Damn.

04:28:13.420 Whoa.

04:28:13.940 Whoa, what?

04:28:15.580 Damn.

04:28:16.300 He copied and pasted that off the internet.

04:28:18.460 All right.

04:28:19.580 Lucas, thank you, man.

04:28:20.620 That came in, I guess, a little earlier, but we had to wait for it.

04:28:23.860 All right, guys.

04:28:24.800 Well, TTS is back up to $200.

04:28:28.040 If any come through in the next minute or two, I'll let them come through.

04:28:30.940 But the TTS is back up to $200.

04:28:33.080 We're going to get into the questionnaire here.

04:28:35.660 Anissa, could you just start collecting maybe?

04:28:38.520 Is that cup empty?

04:28:39.340 Yeah, this is empty.

04:28:40.220 Okay.

04:28:40.500 Yeah.

04:28:41.040 I'll let you deal with that.

04:28:42.600 Anissa.

04:28:43.440 Just put it on top of that.

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04:29:07.500 Yo, Zniper, thank you for the Prime Red Bull.

04:29:11.140 Thank you for the Prime.

04:29:11.700 Really appreciate it, man.

04:29:12.360 Thank you guys so much.

04:29:13.120 And then, also, guys, I kind of want to, maybe we log into my World of Warcraft account and you guys can, like, hook me up with some, like, gold and join the guild or whatever.

04:29:22.800 If you guys are playing on Night Slayer PvP, that'd be super appreciative.

04:29:26.340 We might get that set up a little bit later.

04:29:28.180 All right, let's get into the questionnaire.

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04:29:45.980 All right, so, going around the table, we're going to start with the, would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?

04:29:54.580 Your answer?

04:29:55.540 Bear.

04:29:56.360 Bear?

04:29:56.580 Okay, what about you?

04:29:57.520 I said a man.

04:29:58.380 Man?

04:29:59.040 Okay.

04:29:59.720 I also said a man.

04:30:01.220 All right, what about you?

04:30:02.240 A man.

04:30:04.200 A man.

04:30:05.920 A bear.

04:30:06.900 All right.

04:30:08.480 Yeah, a man.

04:30:09.700 Okay.

04:30:10.660 A bear.

04:30:11.620 A bear.

04:30:12.760 Wait, so, bear, bear, bear, was that it?

04:30:17.340 Is that right?

04:30:18.940 Okay, everybody else said man.

04:30:20.940 Only exception is if it's Winnie the Pooh.

04:30:24.580 I would love to meet Winnie the Pooh.

04:30:26.620 Yep.

04:30:26.780 All right, so, why do you pick bear and why don't you pick man?

04:30:32.540 Go ahead.

04:30:32.840 I just feel like I would have like a direct, I don't know, set of tasks to try and do to get away from a bear or beat a bear, but like men are unpredictable, so you never know what you're getting.

04:30:48.200 Aren't bears unpredictable, too?

04:30:49.340 Oh, they definitely are, girl.

04:30:50.200 I'm just saying, like, they tell you, like, I don't know, be bigger than the bear or run from the bear, depending on what kind of bear it is.

04:30:56.000 It's a silly question, so you're going to get a silly answer.

04:30:58.100 I don't think it's silly, but, and you don't pick the man, is there any further reasoning?

04:31:05.160 Purely because they're unpredictable and I don't know what I'm going to get.

04:31:07.120 I don't know how big the man is.

04:31:08.060 I don't know if I can beat this man.

04:31:09.180 I'm in a wheelchair.

04:31:10.540 I don't think the bear is going to pick me, quite frankly.

04:31:13.920 Okay.

04:31:14.200 But the bear couldn't push you through the woods, either.

04:31:17.480 No, but I could push me.

04:31:19.300 No man is pushing me.

04:31:20.220 Through the woods?

04:31:21.400 I mean, I can get up.

04:31:22.500 Technically, I can walk, so I'm just going to get out of the chair.

04:31:26.200 Why do you pick bear, and why don't you pick men?

04:31:30.380 I think with men, there's a chance of more sexual trauma, and I'd rather a bear eat me and kill me than experience more sexual trauma.

04:31:40.700 Okay, sure.

04:31:41.120 All right.

04:31:41.400 And then what about you?

04:31:44.200 Oh, I said man, unless it's Winnie the Pooh.

04:31:46.840 Oh, I mean, somebody else said, you said bear, yeah.

04:31:49.260 Yeah.

04:31:50.400 I would say, honestly, I wouldn't like either, but.

04:31:54.600 You got picked one, so you picked the bear.

04:31:55.860 Why do you pick the bear?

04:31:56.520 Why don't you pick the man?

04:31:57.460 Because, I mean, obviously men can have, they could, like she said, the sexual thing, or also, like, they can have a gun.

04:32:04.200 They could, like, actually, like, do something, like, I don't know, they can have a knife.

04:32:08.820 Like, the bear, it's like, you're going to maul me or not.

04:32:10.720 I don't think a bear is going to lock me in its basement, either, so.

04:32:14.620 Just saying.

04:32:16.360 Yeah.

04:32:17.020 Okay, so then, and is that a concern for you, too, the potential risk of, like, SA with the men?

04:32:21.840 Okay.

04:32:22.480 So, I guess for those of you who said the bear and said that, what do you think, like, you've done a risk assessment, what percentage of men do you think would be inclined to SA you?

04:32:35.020 Well, that's, I feel like 100% of bears are going to kill me, and not 100% of men randomly wandering in the woods are going to want to kill me.

04:32:44.000 I'm sure there is a percentage of them that would be, but I feel like a bear is much more dangerous in, like, a weighing the pros and cons way.

04:32:53.560 Oh.

04:32:54.800 I meant just collect the stuff, but.

04:32:58.520 Are you done with this?

04:32:59.580 Oh, no.

04:33:00.100 Oh, okay.

04:33:00.560 Oh, I thought it was done, maybe.

04:33:01.760 Maybe the.

04:33:02.780 The napkin.

04:33:03.180 Napkin, napkin over here.

04:33:04.860 Okay, so, I'll repeat the question.

04:33:08.340 Thank you.

04:33:08.720 Those of you who said the bear and you cited to SA, what percentage of men do you think would be inclined to SA you?

04:33:17.660 I genuinely have zero clue about a percentage.

04:33:21.440 I think it just comes from.

04:33:21.940 It doesn't need to be exact, but.

04:33:23.400 I genuinely don't have an answer for you.

04:33:24.920 I don't think that it's, like, a majority.

04:33:27.000 I don't think that it's, like, I don't know.

04:33:30.000 I genuinely have no idea.

04:33:31.140 Okay, maybe, like, five to ten percent.

04:33:37.100 Five to ten percent?

04:33:37.780 Okay, what about you?

04:33:38.640 I was going to say, like, 50, 60 percent.

04:33:40.620 50, 60 percent?

04:33:41.460 That's why, there's no other reason a man is in the woods, in my head.

04:33:45.120 Like, in your scenario.

04:33:46.660 Like, in my scenario, yeah.

04:33:48.860 Unless he's hunting.

04:33:49.760 I would just like to assure you that almost every man who's ever been in the woods has almost always been in the woods for reasons other than the one that you think that they're in the woods for.

04:34:00.600 Exactly.

04:34:01.820 They like to light fires.

04:34:03.220 In fact, I'm going to say right now, on record, that I would be willing to put the number at essentially 100 percent of men who end up in the woods are there for purposes other than that purpose.

04:34:15.920 Do you want to respond to that?

04:34:17.880 I think it's valid.

04:34:18.520 I'm not 100 percent.

04:34:20.600 Maybe, like, 99.

04:34:22.500 Oh, she's the one who gave the 50 to 60.

04:34:23.460 No, I don't think 1 percent.

04:34:25.060 No way.

04:34:25.980 Not 1 percent of men do not go in the woods with the hope of essaying a woman.

04:34:30.440 That's just interesting.

04:34:31.120 Oh, well, no.

04:34:31.760 Not necessarily that.

04:34:33.060 No, no, no.

04:34:33.600 Yeah, yeah.

04:34:34.220 No.

04:34:34.320 But would have the capacity to, maybe, but, like, with the hope of it.

04:34:37.700 Or like me, too.

04:34:38.680 I think that's a weird odd.

04:34:39.120 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

04:34:40.820 I have a really good question.

04:34:42.800 You guys are saying, well, what are they doing in the woods?

04:34:45.480 How about this?

04:34:46.520 Camping.

04:34:50.540 You guys ever go to nightclubs?

04:34:53.300 Yes.

04:34:53.660 You guys ever go to bars?

04:34:55.020 Mm-hmm.

04:34:55.580 Mm-hmm.

04:34:55.900 Do you think the proportion of men who go to these environments with the intention of actually, like,

04:35:02.480 I'm going to, like, drug some of the girls' drink or, like, do something untoward,

04:35:06.300 you think that's higher at a nightclub or in the woods?

04:35:10.060 Nightclub.

04:35:10.460 Nightclub, for sure.

04:35:11.220 Like, of the men that go to the woods versus of the men that go to nightclubs, bars, and

04:35:14.980 parties, et cetera.

04:35:15.980 So why do you guys go to bars, nightclubs, and parties?

04:35:18.480 That's a really good point.

04:35:19.960 Yeah.

04:35:20.460 Fair point.

04:35:20.900 But also, like, no one goes hoping that they get sexually assaulted anywhere.

04:35:26.560 Well, yeah, but I'm-

04:35:26.880 So, like, shouldn't we just be able to go places?

04:35:28.900 I'm looking at it.

04:35:29.800 You guys are-

04:35:30.480 I'm not looking at it from the female perspective.

04:35:32.060 I'm looking at it.

04:35:32.820 You guys are saying, these men have some intention.

04:35:34.920 Why are they in the woods?

04:35:35.960 They're going there for some reason.

04:35:37.380 I mean, I go to the woods and I go to the clubs, so.

04:35:39.540 Yeah, that's kind of evading my question a little bit, but.

04:35:43.440 No, I'm just saying, you were saying, like, why would you go there?

04:35:45.600 Was it versus the woods?

04:35:47.520 Well, you, I mean.

04:35:48.900 Well, the idea is that you would risk a bear.

04:35:52.160 There's predators everywhere.

04:35:53.520 Spawning into the woods with a bear over spawning into the woods with a man.

04:35:59.700 Because you're afraid that a man will SA you.

04:36:01.900 If you think that your chances of running into men in the woods and being SA'd are significantly

04:36:06.700 lower than going to a nightclub and being SA'd, then why wouldn't you, why wouldn't

04:36:11.980 you not go to the nightclub?

04:36:13.400 That's just, it just seems like a basic risk assessment analogy that's kind of silly.

04:36:17.900 I think the question was also phrased in it, wasn't it more men who go to clubs have

04:36:24.140 the intention of, not they're going to sexually assault you in the club?

04:36:27.020 Yeah, I would say if you spawned into the woods with a random man, very few, if any, would,

04:36:33.940 I mean, obviously there would be some, I guess, but almost none would spawn in with the intention

04:36:39.980 of doing anything to you, right?

04:36:42.260 I'm assuming that I would be alone in the woods, so I would feel safer in a club where

04:36:47.380 there's hopefully at least a few good people that would protect me, including, like, security,

04:36:53.920 whereas in the woods, there's no one to protect me.

04:36:57.080 Well, wouldn't that be a bad risk assessment if you say, if you ran into a random man in

04:37:01.700 the woods, your chances of getting SA'd there are probably less likely than getting SA'd

04:37:06.000 in a nightclub?

04:37:06.900 That still would be a bad risk assessment, right?

04:37:08.860 No, because are you assuming the man is random?

04:37:10.560 No, I agree that it's more likely in the club.

04:37:12.040 Yeah, even a random man in the woods.

04:37:14.400 Yeah, no, that's where I draw the line, because I need a witness.

04:37:17.560 I think because I don't drink, I feel safer going out.

04:37:20.480 Huh, okay, I guess, follow-up question then, does it change anything, those of you who

04:37:27.040 picked bear, does it change anything if it's ten bears or ten men?

04:37:35.800 They both sound equal.

04:37:36.720 And they're all together, it's a group, so there's ten men all together, like random

04:37:41.660 men, they just spawn into the forest randomly, or ten bears all together.

04:37:45.160 I don't even like being in elevators with three men, or two men.

04:37:49.760 So do you still pick bear?

04:37:51.400 Yeah, I think so.

04:37:52.400 Still pick bear?

04:37:53.560 Mm-hmm, I think so.

04:37:54.500 Still pick bear?

04:37:55.300 I'll just hide.

04:37:56.320 No, I think I'd choose men, because I would hope there's at least one out of the ten that

04:38:02.020 wouldn't let it happen.

04:38:04.040 Wait, but you earlier said that, like, you said the percentage in terms of the risk assessment,

04:38:09.360 you said it was like five to ten percent?

04:38:11.240 I think those were the percent.

04:38:12.500 So, like, wouldn't it be nine out of the ten men?

04:38:16.420 What?

04:38:16.960 Or the good ones, is what you're saying.

04:38:18.680 You said, when I asked you, like, what's the risk assessment when it comes to SA, how

04:38:21.580 many percent of men would do this?

04:38:23.760 Yeah, nine out of ten would be.

04:38:23.840 Yeah, so wouldn't, like, wouldn't the clear option then be to pick the ten men, because,

04:38:27.720 like, nine of those ten men would, like...

04:38:30.180 And she said men.

04:38:31.440 Yeah.

04:38:31.840 Yeah.

04:38:33.180 Oh, okay.

04:38:34.960 I was like, wait, what do we...

04:38:35.960 Okay, maybe I misunderstood then.

04:38:37.600 Change anything for you?

04:38:38.700 Same situation, just because of odds.

04:38:40.260 I think it comes down to, like, the aloneness more than the woods.

04:38:43.380 Okay, so you pick the ten men.

04:38:45.040 Yeah.

04:38:45.320 Okay, and then a quick question coming back to you.

04:38:47.140 You said, like, 50 to 60 percent of, like, men would be inclined to do this.

04:38:50.540 Do you think, like, do you have any brothers?

04:38:52.880 I have two younger brothers.

04:38:53.920 Can you skim to the table a little bit?

04:38:55.380 I have two younger brothers.

04:38:56.480 Two younger brothers, and do you have a father?

04:38:58.360 No.

04:38:58.920 I have two moms.

04:38:59.720 They're lesbian.

04:39:00.520 I'm adopted.

04:39:01.720 Okay.

04:39:02.260 Do you have, like, male relatives, cousins, uncles, this sort of thing?

04:39:05.440 I have an uncle and a grandpa, but they don't really, like, have an influence over me.

04:39:09.600 Sure.

04:39:10.040 Do you think, like, 50 percent of the men in your family would do this?

04:39:14.280 Like, not...

04:39:14.620 Oh, no.

04:39:15.060 If you put it that way, then no.

04:39:16.780 Mine would.

04:39:18.400 Yours would?

04:39:18.820 I don't think so.

04:39:19.340 And I'm not going to name drop, but mine have.

04:39:21.220 So, if you're going to go with those odds, then yes.

04:39:23.320 Okay.

04:39:24.160 And that's just the ones that you know about, so...

04:39:27.440 All right.

04:39:28.640 So, you're saying, like...

04:39:29.700 50 percent of the...

04:39:30.540 Okay.

04:39:30.720 I think 50 was a little exaggerated.

04:39:32.500 I just...

04:39:32.680 No, yeah.

04:39:32.960 50 was pushing it.

04:39:33.840 No, 50 was pushing it, but a large amount of...

04:39:36.240 20?

04:39:36.640 The names that...

04:39:37.840 Huh?

04:39:38.360 Well, actually, we can divide this percentage very quickly.

04:39:41.420 Wow.

04:39:41.820 Just take the amount of male family members that you have, and with the amount of essay that

04:39:46.900 you know about, and then what's the percentage come out to, roughly?

04:39:49.720 I'm not going to think about that.

04:39:52.760 Why don't you just look it up on Google?

04:39:56.060 I don't understand.

04:39:57.440 About personal, family, sexual assault, I would like to no longer think about.

04:40:00.820 Thank you.

04:40:02.880 I don't know what that has to do with the question.

04:40:05.660 It has to do with me being uncomfortable thinking about the sexual assault in my family.

04:40:08.720 So, I'm...

04:40:09.720 I think it's just being evasive, but okay.

04:40:14.340 If it's too uncomfortable for you, then it's too uncomfortable for you, I guess.

04:40:20.920 Thank you for that.

04:40:22.500 You're welcome.

04:40:22.980 Being sexually assaulted as a child repeatedly is too uncomfortable for me.

04:40:27.440 So, I'm tabling this.

04:40:28.660 Yeah, yeah, I know.

04:40:29.840 You know, if you want to...

04:40:30.900 So, here's what's happening, right?

04:40:33.020 So, I ask a benign question just based on logic.

04:40:35.980 And so, instead, you want a victim shame.

04:40:38.840 Like, you want to be like, well, I was a victim of this horrible thing that happened, and you're

04:40:42.360 giving me unnecessary trauma, blah, blah, blah.

04:40:44.700 Well, the intent of the question was not to bring up childhood trauma that I would have

04:40:48.880 no way of knowing ever.

04:40:50.920 I know.

04:40:52.140 But that's fine.

04:40:53.240 But the respect would just be to end it when I asked you to end it.

04:40:56.700 Yeah, I did end it.

04:40:57.920 I said, that's fine.

04:40:59.140 And you were like, no.

04:40:59.980 Okay, I'm going to move on.

04:41:01.900 Who cares to donate $100?

04:41:04.760 From a man's point of view, if a man was spawned in the woods and saw a random woman,

04:41:10.160 the only thing on a man's mind is, oh my god, dead weight.

04:41:14.500 Men go to the woods to escape women nagging.

04:41:17.260 Oh my god.

04:41:18.680 Literally.

04:41:20.040 Literally.

04:41:20.480 Yo, by the way, the TTS, it is still 200.

04:41:25.320 It slipped through, though, as TTS.

04:41:27.880 Who cares?

04:41:28.600 Do appreciate the message, though.

04:41:30.020 Thank you very much.

04:41:32.040 Okay.

04:41:32.760 And let's see.

04:41:34.320 We have, how tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?

04:41:38.840 Well.

04:41:41.860 Are you asking me?

04:41:42.600 I'm sorry.

04:41:43.100 Yeah, you just wrote you would not date a cis man.

04:41:45.140 So, what about you?

04:41:47.800 Either the same height or taller.

04:41:49.720 So, how tall are you?

04:41:50.860 I'm 5'1".

04:41:51.680 Okay.

04:41:52.060 So, he's got to be at least 5'1".

04:41:53.200 Okay.

04:41:53.560 What about you?

04:41:54.280 I really don't have a big gauge on height, because I'm always, like, way shorter than

04:41:58.220 everyone, so I feel like it doesn't really matter as much to me.

04:42:01.880 Sure.

04:42:02.500 Okay.

04:42:02.880 What about you?

04:42:04.140 Well, I'm 5'3", and I don't think I'd want to date someone that's 5'3", but he doesn't

04:42:11.400 have to be 6'0".

04:42:12.360 He just has to be taller than me, so that I can...

04:42:14.700 5'4".

04:42:16.180 Okay.

04:42:16.820 Yeah.

04:42:17.540 All right.

04:42:18.320 What about you?

04:42:19.720 Um, I really...

04:42:22.100 It doesn't really matter, but I prefer shorter guys, preferably my height, so...

04:42:28.400 You prefer shorter guys?

04:42:29.640 Yeah.

04:42:30.240 That's a first.

04:42:31.040 Okay.

04:42:31.280 I like the comfortability, yeah, but, yeah, it's definitely, I would say the tallest I'd

04:42:37.460 probably go is probably five, like, five-nine.

04:42:44.280 The tallest you would go?

04:42:45.720 Yeah.

04:42:46.340 It's like six foot, if anything, but I probably wouldn't go for a guy over six foot.

04:42:50.960 What about you?

04:42:51.380 I'm 5'2", and the shortest guy I would go for is, like, 5'10".

04:42:57.480 I'm 5'9", so I would go with the same height as me, which, that's my preference, actually,

04:43:03.140 is, like, I would rather be with a guy who's the same height as me versus a guy who's, like,

04:43:06.760 six foot five, like, way taller.

04:43:09.440 What about you?

04:43:10.100 I'm 5'2", and the shortest I would go, okay, so I had an ex-fiancee that was 5'4".

04:43:16.540 We'll never do that again.

04:43:18.780 5'10", is now the minimum, and I prefer, like, over six feet, like 6'5".

04:43:24.100 Five.

04:43:27.360 What?

04:43:27.680 My ex was 6'5".

04:43:29.400 Wait, so, I think you did right.

04:43:33.220 You're 5'2", the minimum is 5'10", but you prefer 6'5", so, like, less than 1% of men.

04:43:40.500 Okay.

04:43:41.520 All right.

04:43:42.960 What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future partner?

04:43:48.640 I don't care.

04:43:49.660 Don't care at all?

04:43:50.260 Okay.

04:43:50.920 Do you want kids or anything like that?

04:43:52.500 No.

04:43:52.700 No?

04:43:52.960 Okay.

04:43:53.360 No, and I've been homeless, so, like, I just have...

04:43:55.460 You've been homeless?

04:43:56.260 Mm-hmm.

04:43:56.720 Did you date while you were homeless?

04:43:58.980 I was in the same relationship I'm in now.

04:44:02.960 Rock and roll.

04:44:03.940 Okay, cool.

04:44:04.940 All right, what about you?

04:44:07.760 Wait, I'm sorry.

04:44:08.540 What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband or partner?

04:44:13.420 I mean, at least the same as what I make, if not more, because I just don't want to

04:44:17.660 be the one making the most.

04:44:18.140 You wrote 100K here?

04:44:19.080 Is that...

04:44:19.460 I did, but you know what?

04:44:21.060 You know what?

04:44:21.440 I'm fine if it's at least the same amount as me, you know what I mean?

04:44:24.100 How much do you make?

04:44:25.100 It just changes, you know, because I don't have a set rate, because it changes, but at

04:44:29.180 least the same amount that I make, if not more.

04:44:30.740 How much do you make around the Super Bowl?

04:44:33.300 It just depends.

04:44:34.480 Like, I could make, like, 14 a month or more.

04:44:37.040 Like, it really is just depending on the guys.

04:44:39.080 But 100K, it sounds like.

04:44:40.400 What about you?

04:44:41.520 Yeah, I said 100K.

04:44:43.180 Okay.

04:44:43.920 I just, I want to be a lawyer.

04:44:46.380 That's the goal.

04:44:47.200 And I want to be comfortable.

04:44:49.320 I like, things like wheelchairs and stuff are expensive, and I want to not have to rely

04:44:53.960 on medical insurance and things like that.

04:44:57.480 Okay.

04:44:58.640 What about you?

04:44:59.360 I thought I'd be okay with someone making as much as I make, which is low.

04:45:06.340 But honestly, I've been around people that make a million dollars, and I've, like, shaken

04:45:11.340 the hands of an autistic billionaire.

04:45:13.660 So honestly, I think I want a millionaire, because there's a lot of people that are millionaires.

04:45:20.240 What?

04:45:21.320 I know, dude, I know so many people that are millionaires.

04:45:24.660 They make, like, a million dollars a year, two million dollars a year.

04:45:27.360 What percentage of people do you think make a million dollars a year?

04:45:31.800 I know six dudes in Long Island that make.

04:45:34.300 Yeah, but what percentage of people?

04:45:36.120 Well, definitely, like, less than one percent.

04:45:37.760 Wait, how many millionaires have you met?

04:45:39.900 I've met now probably, like, 12 or more.

04:45:42.920 And, like, how many of them date you?

04:45:46.060 One wants to date me, but I don't like him.

04:45:49.140 I don't know what I'm going to do, honestly.

04:45:51.660 So there's only, as far as I can see, the one thing about billionaires is because they're

04:45:56.320 so rare, they're highly tracked, especially by Forbes.

04:45:59.920 I can only find, actually, five of them who even have autism.

04:46:04.480 Yeah, I shook the hands of one of them.

04:46:06.620 And I don't, I'm not saying I like the dude.

04:46:08.340 What was his name?

04:46:09.680 I'm not going to say his name.

04:46:10.760 I'm not saying I like the dude.

04:46:11.880 I think the dude's...

04:46:12.320 You shook his hand.

04:46:12.900 You didn't sleep with the guy.

04:46:13.840 Why can't you say his name?

04:46:14.620 I shook Elon Musk's hand, but, like, I'm not really a fan of his politics, not so much.

04:46:22.180 Oh, you don't like his politics?

04:46:23.440 Not so much.

04:46:24.580 Oh, okay.

04:46:25.280 So wait, you want to date a millionaire autistic liberal?

04:46:28.820 Yes.

04:46:29.960 That is black and not, yes, high-functioning autistic.

04:46:33.080 Oh, you're fucked.

04:46:33.160 I'm sorry, you're fucked.

04:46:35.160 I know.

04:46:35.620 No, like, there's very few.

04:46:37.540 At least she's realistic.

04:46:38.800 I know.

04:46:38.980 There's very few of those.

04:46:39.800 No, anything is possible.

04:46:41.080 He's out there.

04:46:42.120 He's out there.

04:46:42.760 I've only met white dudes and Asian dudes that are that thingy, but...

04:46:47.760 You guys got to understand.

04:46:48.760 Hopefully he is out there.

04:46:49.600 Do you guys know what possible really means?

04:46:53.140 Sorry.

04:46:54.000 Sorry.

04:46:54.600 Do you guys know what...

04:46:55.300 You used the word, like, oh, it's possible, so I should not settle because I'm aiming for

04:47:00.940 something that's possible.

04:47:03.560 Yes, I want my Steve Urkel, like, autistic black millionaire.

04:47:08.800 No, but I'm talking to you right now, so...

04:47:11.160 Me?

04:47:11.700 Yeah.

04:47:11.940 Oh, what?

04:47:12.420 Oh, my God.

04:47:12.980 You guys not, like, paying attention here?

04:47:14.620 Hello?

04:47:15.320 I'm talking to you.

04:47:15.980 You just said it's possible that she could find this guy.

04:47:18.960 Yeah, absolutely it is.

04:47:20.200 So, should I not get a job and just, it's possible for me to win the lottery so that I...

04:47:26.620 It's possible, so I shouldn't settle for a job?

04:47:29.880 Are you equating a job to a person that you're going to spend the rest of your life with?

04:47:34.420 Yes.

04:47:35.160 Oh, yeah, no, I can't do that.

04:47:36.140 Yeah, no, it's such a different thing.

04:47:38.280 No, how about we actually analyze this?

04:47:40.560 So, I would argue that the chances of winning the lottery, like, a lottery that awards more

04:47:45.500 than a million dollars, the chance of somebody winning that is higher than, I'm not saying

04:47:50.200 this to be mean, is higher than her landing a black, did you say millionaire or billionaire?

04:47:55.580 Million.

04:47:55.860 Black, millionaire who...

04:47:58.140 Autistic.

04:47:59.340 Mm-hmm.

04:48:00.720 And you...

04:48:01.800 Yeah.

04:48:02.680 Well, that part was fine.

04:48:03.480 I was just arguing the point of, like...

04:48:04.720 Because I'm chilling with dudes, like, right now, that they pay girls, like, a thousand dollars

04:48:09.940 just to have sex.

04:48:11.200 And I'm like, what the hell?

04:48:12.800 Like, I want a black version of that guy that doesn't pay girls.

04:48:17.460 Yes.

04:48:18.000 Mm-hmm.

04:48:18.500 Yeah.

04:48:19.300 Okay.

04:48:19.540 It's just...

04:48:20.620 Would you be like...

04:48:21.260 You guys gotta get out of possibility, and you gotta start looking at what's probable.

04:48:25.140 If I could be friends with them, why can't I find one person that is also black, that is

04:48:30.000 also like...

04:48:30.380 You know what?

04:48:30.880 If the other option is just, like, being single...

04:48:31.780 Realistically, that's not possible.

04:48:34.080 But the number of black...

04:48:34.700 I never thought I'd be able to chill with these people, and I'm chilling with them.

04:48:37.260 ...or out their range in the, you know, the hundreds.

04:48:41.240 Right?

04:48:41.640 The hundreds.

04:48:43.140 There's, like, a very slim pool.

04:48:45.120 I'm very passionate about this, because...

04:48:47.680 Wait, hold on.

04:48:48.340 You said you were a female incel, but you're holding out for a black millionaire.

04:48:53.420 That has autism.

04:48:54.240 She said she can't call herself that woman, right?

04:48:55.820 Yeah.

04:48:56.460 Yeah.

04:48:57.100 Bro.

04:48:57.800 Yeah.

04:48:58.060 Oh, I'm...

04:48:58.820 Imagine an incel was like, oh, I'm involuntarily celibate, but, like, I'm holding out for...

04:49:03.280 I've held out for 31 years.

04:49:05.000 And, uh...

04:49:06.960 Imagine an incel saying, I'm whole...

04:49:09.740 I'm an incel.

04:49:10.760 I'm involuntarily celibate.

04:49:12.520 There's all these women who want to fuck me, but I'm waiting for a 10 out of 10 virgin

04:49:17.900 Victoria's Secret model.

04:49:19.720 What?

04:49:21.020 Bro, you ain't an incel.

04:49:23.040 You're not an incel.

04:49:24.460 It's crazy.

04:49:24.560 Well, he doesn't have to be attractive.

04:49:26.280 He just has to, like, have those qualifications.

04:49:29.220 I've been waiting this long.

04:49:30.600 Oh, my God.

04:49:31.460 The only dude that I found that's kind of like that is, like, in his 40s, and I don't

04:49:36.440 want to be with a guy that's almost 50, and he's the only one that's showing me any interest.

04:49:41.020 So, I don't...

04:49:42.520 Like, and he...

04:49:43.120 You're not a...

04:49:43.780 Well, I mean, you already agreed that you're...

04:49:45.560 Stop hitting the table.

04:49:45.620 Sorry.

04:49:45.920 You already agreed that you're...

04:49:47.520 I'm so passionate about this.

04:49:48.900 You already agreed that you're not a female involuntarily...

04:49:53.120 involuntary celibate anymore, but given...

04:49:56.740 Was this your standard when you were a female involuntarily celibate?

04:50:01.360 I thought I would meet my Steve Urkel in my 20s, yeah.

04:50:04.540 Even when...

04:50:04.820 Hold on.

04:50:05.160 Even before you went on all those shows and got all that male attention, and you thought

04:50:09.380 you were a female incel, you weren't.

04:50:12.280 Even then.

04:50:13.100 And I thought one of them would have messaged me.

04:50:15.780 I thought once...

04:50:16.460 Are you troll?

04:50:17.220 Are you fucking mad?

04:50:17.920 No, I'm not.

04:50:18.280 No, I'm not.

04:50:19.020 I've been saying this for years.

04:50:20.480 Like, I've been saying, like, this is what I want.

04:50:22.900 I want, like, a dude that, like, is, like, cool and has autism and has a good job.

04:50:29.360 I actually know one.

04:50:31.100 You can find him on YouTube.

04:50:33.040 His name is Lyndon Powell, and he is supposedly, at least, a millionaire with autism.

04:50:40.120 Is he black?

04:50:40.700 Actually, no one.

04:50:41.620 Yeah, he's black, for sure.

04:50:42.900 Oh, okay.

04:50:43.320 All right.

04:50:43.560 There you go.

04:50:44.700 I'll Google him.

04:50:45.340 Make the connect, I guess.

04:50:47.020 I'm sorry.

04:50:47.660 I'm just passionate about this.

04:50:49.060 Anyways, going around the table.

04:50:50.480 We were talking about a minimum yearly income.

04:50:53.060 I think we were...

04:50:54.320 Yeah, me.

04:50:54.920 I said, like, $150,000.

04:51:00.240 Like, $150,000.

04:51:03.320 Okay.

04:51:04.380 Yeah.

04:51:04.700 $150,000?

04:51:05.560 All right.

04:51:05.860 What about you?

04:51:06.640 $60,000.

04:51:07.300 $60,000?

04:51:07.920 Unless you...

04:51:09.080 Unless I am a full provider?

04:51:10.760 Yeah.

04:51:11.740 Okay.

04:51:12.340 Like, if I'm, like, really balling and there's no need for them to work, then sure.

04:51:16.780 But I'd prefer that not to be the case.

04:51:18.680 Fair enough.

04:51:19.280 What about you?

04:51:20.540 Oh, I put at least the same as what I make, but...

04:51:23.200 What did you make?

04:51:24.260 I make up with Instacart about $60,000 a year.

04:51:27.280 Okay.

04:51:27.720 But a big thing I look for, though, is I...

04:51:30.520 Because I don't date older men, usually.

04:51:32.120 I typically date my age or younger.

04:51:33.820 So I care that he works hard, he's ambitious, like, has his life together.

04:51:37.740 Like, I care more about, like, him having those personality traits than him being a millionaire.

04:51:42.560 Like, if he's a millionaire, but it's all, like, daddy's money and he doesn't want to work.

04:51:48.220 Like, I don't want that.

04:51:50.760 Okay.

04:51:51.380 And what about you?

04:51:53.520 I said six figures just because that's what I'm used to being taken care of, like.

04:52:00.220 Yeah.

04:52:00.640 Sure.

04:52:00.800 I just like to be comfortable.

04:52:01.660 I've tried lower and it really, like, it just messed with me.

04:52:06.180 I was like, okay.

04:52:06.900 If I can...

04:52:07.420 I was making more than him at the time, so I couldn't, like...

04:52:10.020 I couldn't do that.

04:52:12.020 All right.

04:52:12.840 There it is.

04:52:13.940 Greta Thanos.

04:52:15.460 And thank you so much for the $100 soup chat.

04:52:17.800 I was about to say W's in the chat for Greta, but then I read it.

04:52:20.840 Andrew Wilson is a saint.

04:52:21.880 He's hated like other saints.

04:52:24.460 Benches?

04:52:25.540 He's...

04:52:26.140 Oh, my...

04:52:26.480 Could you...

04:52:27.100 Greta fucking spellcheck this shit, bro.

04:52:29.500 Benches, he's a...

04:52:30.400 Speaks the truth.

04:52:31.220 One day he will perform a miracle and turn you all celibate and put sour cream on a burrito brine.

04:52:35.020 Okay.

04:52:35.200 Okay.

04:52:38.740 Elle in the chat for Greta.

04:52:40.580 Thank you for the soup chat, though.

04:52:42.000 I really appreciate it.

04:52:42.640 That's very kind of you.

04:52:43.500 Elle in the chat.

04:52:44.600 Thank you.

04:52:45.220 Appreciate it.

04:52:46.220 All right.

04:52:46.640 And then, have you ever had a sugar daddy or sold feed pics?

04:52:53.400 I'm just going to skip ahead to the people who wrote yes, Nikki.

04:52:56.740 You have had a sugar daddy.

04:52:58.240 How many sugar daddies?

04:52:59.320 Just one.

04:53:00.000 And then you said you sold pics?

04:53:01.660 Yeah.

04:53:02.040 OnlyFans?

04:53:02.680 Yes.

04:53:04.380 No.

04:53:05.200 No.

04:53:07.140 Yes.

04:53:07.740 You sold pics.

04:53:08.360 What did you sell?

04:53:09.480 I sold feed pictures.

04:53:12.740 What?

04:53:13.740 Yeah.

04:53:14.480 Just like one time?

04:53:15.320 It was actually...

04:53:16.200 One time?

04:53:16.920 To one person.

04:53:18.700 Like, because I was just moved to California, and I was during COVID, and I literally tried looking for a job.

04:53:23.600 And my roommate, she sold feed pictures, and she put me on.

04:53:26.780 So, that's also how I was making my money when I first moved here.

04:53:29.620 But I stopped doing it as soon as I started working.

04:53:32.740 All right.

04:53:34.000 So, you only did it one time?

04:53:36.040 Yeah.

04:53:36.520 To the same guy multiple times?

04:53:37.760 Yeah.

04:53:38.020 Yeah.

04:53:38.180 Yeah.

04:53:38.280 How much per pic?

04:53:39.780 It depends if it's a video or if it's just a picture.

04:53:44.320 Break it down.

04:53:44.680 So, a video, I would do it on the scale of, like, if I'm putting my feet in water or stuff like that.

04:53:54.560 And stuff like that is, like, I would cost you more, like $50 per video.

04:53:59.380 But then pictures are $5 each, and sometimes I do bundles and stuff like that.

04:54:03.860 So, I can get, like, 10 pictures for, like, this amount.

04:54:08.300 But there was only one guy you ever sent to?

04:54:10.240 Yeah, because it was one of my roommates, my old, old roommate.

04:54:13.520 The first time you sent, how much did you...

04:54:15.620 How much did I make?

04:54:17.760 Yeah.

04:54:19.000 Like, the very first time?

04:54:20.220 Mm-hmm.

04:54:20.680 From that guy, since I did videos with my roommate, he just moved on to me.

04:54:26.300 Like, he was just like, yo, make a Snapchat type shit, right?

04:54:30.540 So, and then I would say that first time I made...

04:54:33.820 I would probably say I was, like, new to it.

04:54:35.420 I didn't know what I was doing.

04:54:36.720 I would say I was making, I was, like, $50 my first time.

04:54:39.300 Okay.

04:54:39.580 How much did you make total?

04:54:41.220 Like, I was doing it for about until I dated my ex.

04:54:44.740 So, I would say about $4,000.

04:54:50.900 That's a lot of feedback.

04:54:52.080 Yeah, and videos and stuff.

04:54:53.560 That's a lot of feedback.

04:54:53.920 How long were you doing this for?

04:54:56.300 Mostly, like, a whole year.

04:54:57.760 Damn, this guy was thirsty for fucking feet pics.

04:55:00.460 Yeah.

04:55:01.700 That's cool, I guess.

04:55:03.000 But my rent was, like, freaking, like, $2,000.

04:55:06.880 So, I need to think about how much I was actually making in a year.

04:55:09.520 All right.

04:55:10.740 Yeah.

04:55:11.300 Sugar Daddy, no, but you've had a pay pig.

04:55:14.200 Yeah.

04:55:14.900 Pay pigs are...

04:55:15.300 And then you also sold pigs, but you did, did OF?

04:55:18.520 Still do OF?

04:55:19.340 No, I did OF for, like, two months, two years ago.

04:55:22.300 Okay, and did you sell feet pics, or?

04:55:24.240 Yeah.

04:55:24.460 Okay, how much would you charge?

04:55:26.940 I don't remember.

04:55:28.240 I know that my monthly subscription for OnlyFans was $20, and then, like, a picture of...

04:55:35.140 It would only be pictures of me and Landre on there, and then they would have to unlock

04:55:38.820 for hire.

04:55:39.800 So, it would usually be, like, $100 for a tip pic.

04:55:44.000 All right.

04:55:44.780 Oh, we have a couple chats here coming in.

04:55:47.060 Libertariat donated $200.

04:55:53.020 Lyndon Powell just messaged me and would like to tell Chair 4 something explicit.

04:55:58.440 He wants to tell you about his mansions.

04:56:01.140 He has mansions.

04:56:02.680 Oh, Libertariat.

04:56:03.580 Thank you for the TTS.

04:56:04.660 W's in the chat for Libertariat.

04:56:05.940 Thank you, man.

04:56:06.760 And then, coming after Libertariat, we have big sass energy.

04:56:10.660 But, Libertariat, thank you so much.

04:56:12.020 Uh, who knows?

04:56:13.480 Hey, this could be...

04:56:14.640 This could be, uh...

04:56:16.880 This could be the star or something.

04:56:19.160 Thank you.

04:56:19.820 Big sass energy donated $200.

04:56:22.760 Hide it in sources.

04:56:23.660 Hard truth.

04:56:23.820 Hide it in sources.

04:56:24.580 None of these may be 100 men that fit your criteria.

04:56:27.680 Sorry, guys.

04:56:28.100 We'll date you.

04:56:29.240 The probability is zero.

04:56:32.260 Can you fix that?

04:56:33.200 Just minimize it?

04:56:34.720 Yeah, minimize it.

04:56:35.620 Wait, what happened?

04:56:40.440 Are we...

04:56:41.200 Huh?

04:56:41.840 Hit back.

04:56:42.920 You hit back?

04:56:43.940 Yeah.

04:56:45.200 Sorry, guys.

04:56:45.840 Hold on.

04:56:47.080 Uh, refresh the page.

04:56:50.740 Hit enter studio.

04:56:52.660 Sorry, guys.

04:56:58.280 Mute.

04:56:59.360 Mute.

04:57:00.060 Stop cam.

04:57:01.680 Hit enter studio.

04:57:03.980 Okay.

04:57:05.000 There.

04:57:06.140 Can you pull us back up?

04:57:07.920 All right.

04:57:08.520 Sorry about that, guys.

04:57:09.440 Okay.

04:57:09.820 Uh, and Greta Thanos.

04:57:11.160 I just kid around.

04:57:11.860 Love the podcast and all of you.

04:57:13.140 I appreciate this channel.

04:57:14.360 Whenever I type, it's out of love.

04:57:18.460 Can you pull up?

04:57:19.300 You got to show StreamYard again.

04:57:23.060 I just kid around.

04:57:24.040 Love the podcast and all of you.

04:57:25.120 I appreciate this channel.

04:57:25.860 Whenever I type, it's out of love.

04:57:28.360 All of you.

04:57:29.480 It's all for fun.

04:57:30.220 Greta, thank you so much for the soup chat, man.

04:57:31.500 I really appreciate it.

04:57:32.580 I don't know if that's a man or a woman, but, uh, W's in the chat, I guess.

04:57:35.540 It's for, uh, for Greta.

04:57:37.340 She, her, he, him.

04:57:38.380 I don't know.

04:57:38.960 Thank you so much.

04:57:39.620 Really appreciate the soup chat.

04:57:41.140 Uh, and then I'm going to play this one again because it kind of came through while there

04:57:44.860 was a little hiccup.

04:57:45.520 Big Sas Energy donated $200.

04:57:48.840 Hard truth.

04:57:50.240 None of these may be 100 men that fit your criteria or date you.

04:57:54.940 The probability is zero.

04:57:56.700 Is that for me?

04:57:57.980 I don't know.

04:57:58.440 Yeah.

04:57:58.780 Yeah, that's for you.

04:57:59.500 Saying out of the, uh, very few, uh, highly successful millionaire black men with autism

04:58:05.340 that there are, the chances of you actually connecting with one from a romantic relationship,

04:58:10.760 the probability seems so low as to be zero.

04:58:12.060 So I have to date interracially to, to have a, a husband or a boyfriend?

04:58:17.760 No, that's not what they're saying.

04:58:19.260 No, that would be the opposite, right?

04:58:21.340 So, of course, of course, if you shifted your criteria from must be black millionaire and

04:58:27.880 autistic, your chances would significantly increase of having a husband.

04:58:33.600 But all that's left to you, unfortunately, right now is, uh, one lone masked millionaire

04:58:38.680 named Lyndon Powell.

04:58:40.680 That's about, I think that's about your only option.

04:58:46.060 I don't know how to respond.

04:58:47.700 I don't know how to respond to that.

04:58:49.440 Uh, we can go on to the next person.

04:58:51.880 Oh, they're just being a troll.

04:58:53.260 Like, don't take it personally.

04:58:55.240 Well, I mean, that's not really trolling.

04:58:57.360 I don't think it's a troll.

04:58:57.720 That's actually a really good point.

04:58:59.060 If you take the amount of black millionaires with autism and you realize how few of them

04:59:06.460 there are and how many options are available to them of various women, the chances of you

04:59:12.360 being one that marries one of those men is extraordinarily low.

04:59:17.500 With the threshold being so low that it could potentially be about zero percent.

04:59:22.360 Like, that's how low it is.

04:59:24.920 So, so should I just like accept the fact that I'll probably die alone?

04:59:29.000 Is that what you're saying?

04:59:30.200 You're just like, or, or you can just, you know, move some standards around so they're

04:59:35.600 more reasonable.

04:59:36.300 I have a question on this, actually, unless Andrew, did you have a bit more, but it's

04:59:42.440 related to this.

04:59:44.260 No, no, go ahead, Brian.

04:59:45.360 Sure.

04:59:45.680 Yeah.

04:59:45.840 So my question is on this.

04:59:47.140 So, um, hold on guys, I'm going to get this pulled up here.

04:59:50.800 So, uh, if you got 80% of everything you want in your ideal partner, would you be happy

04:59:58.160 with that?

04:59:58.640 Um, I would, yeah.

05:00:01.940 So they're missing 20% of what you want.

05:00:05.500 I mean, that's like, I know this is hard to believe, but like I have everything I want.

05:00:09.920 So like, probably not.

05:00:12.100 Oh, so you want nothing in a partner?

05:00:14.060 I mean, I'm just.

05:00:15.140 Ouch.

05:00:15.540 Thank you for my fiance that I have already.

05:00:18.840 Do you get what I'm saying?

05:00:19.560 Like I have everything I want in my partner.

05:00:21.700 Like I got, I won my own lottery.

05:00:24.820 Yeah.

05:00:25.200 So I'll just repeat the question.

05:00:26.280 So no, I would not date them.

05:00:30.880 Okay.

05:00:31.460 Understood.

05:00:33.240 Um, I would date them cause they don't have to have a hundred percent of the qualities

05:00:36.940 because you know, you accept them for who they are.

05:00:40.180 Yeah, I would.

05:00:40.800 I feel like dating's really give and take.

05:00:42.580 So 80%, I feel like that's kind of high.

05:00:44.960 Okay.

05:00:45.780 Yeah, I would.

05:00:46.920 80% is high.

05:00:48.440 Okay.

05:00:49.200 Yeah.

05:00:49.720 Same.

05:00:50.860 No, I think what's on my list is pretty bare minimum things.

05:00:55.660 All right.

05:00:56.280 I think I would, I would not, like, I would rather, I would rather be single than to be

05:01:03.380 with someone who isn't, isn't gonna like really add to my life.

05:01:09.280 Well, like.

05:01:11.500 I forgot the question.

05:01:12.900 Yeah.

05:01:13.200 It's just, uh, if you got 80% of everything you want in your ideal partner, would you be

05:01:17.580 happy with that?

05:01:18.940 Um.

05:01:21.100 No, I'm too picky.

05:01:22.940 Okay.

05:01:24.140 And that, I mean, you said that they wouldn't, couldn't somebody who only brings 80% they

05:01:28.820 could still bring to your life.

05:01:31.720 Like, it would still, it would still be pretty good, but I feel like there might be that just

05:01:35.200 kind of little voice in the back of my head being like, there's something still kind of

05:01:39.440 missing.

05:01:40.640 Hmm.

05:01:41.200 Okay.

05:01:42.960 All right.

05:01:43.700 Um, and then going, hold on.

05:01:45.560 There's a chat here from Greta.

05:01:47.000 Yo, Greta.

05:01:47.620 On a serious note, Andrew really helped me and helped me search for faith.

05:01:50.740 I haven't found it yet, but he has helped me try and find my voice.

05:01:54.440 I was, excuse me.

05:01:55.880 I was born an atheist, never raised with faith.

05:01:58.600 I'm a dude.

05:02:00.020 Uh, yo, Greta.

05:02:02.600 Thank you for the very generous super chat.

05:02:04.920 W's in the chat for Greta.

05:02:06.580 Thanos.

05:02:07.080 Really appreciate it.

05:02:07.780 Andrew, you want to do a quick, uh, little response to Greta?

05:02:10.200 You'll find it.

05:02:12.240 All right.

05:02:12.780 Cool.

05:02:13.520 Uh, going around the table, we were going around on, or we were talking about the feet

05:02:17.860 picks thing or whatever, or the, oh no, I recall.

05:02:21.600 It was, uh, we were on the 80%, the idea of is, is 80%, uh, settling.

05:02:29.200 Uh, so what are the 100% of the qualities that you would want then?

05:02:35.080 Me?

05:02:36.520 No, to those who said 80% would be settling.

05:02:39.940 Oh, I said it would be settling.

05:02:41.500 Um.

05:02:41.820 Yeah.

05:02:42.020 What, what would a hundred percent be?

05:02:44.240 Just checking all the boxes that I like need.

05:02:47.420 I don't know.

05:02:48.140 Which are?

05:02:49.940 Um.

05:02:50.960 Okay.

05:02:51.400 I haven't like thought about this deeply.

05:02:53.280 Like, I can't.

05:02:54.720 I'm like, how do you know you wouldn't settle for somebody at 80%?

05:02:58.960 I would say it's only because I only noticed when I get, start getting pet peeves.

05:03:03.660 Like, I only noticed when I don't like someone when I like start dating them and I'm like,

05:03:07.140 okay, you're not the one.

05:03:08.420 Like, you're not.

05:03:09.260 Like, I can just tell, like, I don't know how to explain it.

05:03:12.360 Everyone, like.

05:03:12.940 You don't go into it with the criteria.

05:03:14.220 But that's not fair because, yeah, I don't go into it with a, I don't know.

05:03:17.820 I don't go into it with a, like, thinking they're going to be something like.

05:03:20.400 Check the boxes, right?

05:03:22.100 I don't go into it.

05:03:22.940 I mean, that sounds like criteria.

05:03:25.220 I mean, I don't know.

05:03:27.900 Come back to me on that.

05:03:29.120 I don't.

05:03:29.320 I said no because my things are, like, I want them to be spiritual, like, at least believe

05:03:34.680 in something.

05:03:38.600 I guess looks is, like, the one thing that I would, like, compromise on is if they didn't

05:03:44.540 look exactly how I wanted them to.

05:03:46.700 But besides that, it's just, like, treating me well, emotional intelligence, able to, like,

05:03:52.900 communicate.

05:03:53.360 So if they were just kind of, they were spiritual but not very spiritual, and they had some emotional

05:04:01.320 intelligence, but maybe not a lot of emotional intelligence, that, let's just say that that's

05:04:06.580 20%, that would be a deal breaker?

05:04:11.460 No, I think it depends on, like, how emotionally intelligent, though.

05:04:15.400 No.

05:04:17.360 Okay.

05:04:19.540 I think we're going around on the have you ever had a sugar daddy thing.

05:04:22.340 You've had a pay pig.

05:04:23.580 Mm-hmm.

05:04:24.160 Mm-hmm.

05:04:25.540 And then you sold the pigs, but when it came to the pay pig, you've had how many pay pigs?

05:04:31.020 Just one?

05:04:31.880 A couple?

05:04:32.200 Two.

05:04:32.660 Two?

05:04:33.120 All right.

05:04:33.480 What was, like, I guess the nature of the exchange?

05:04:35.600 They just gave you money and that was it?

05:04:37.000 They would want me to either, like, text how disgusting and small there was, or, like,

05:04:48.960 send a voice note saying the same thing for more money.

05:04:52.300 Mm-hmm.

05:04:52.680 Okay.

05:04:53.280 But not to send more pictures.

05:04:55.020 Reenact it right now.

05:04:56.240 Go ahead.

05:04:56.340 No, thank you.

05:04:57.460 Pay me.

05:05:00.140 Okay.

05:05:00.620 And so you had these pay pigs.

05:05:05.900 The one of them, the first one, I guess, how much total did he pay you?

05:05:11.600 It would be $100 every time that I would tell him how gross and small it was.

05:05:17.980 Same with the other guy?

05:05:18.900 $100?

05:05:19.800 Mm-hmm.

05:05:20.060 Okay.

05:05:20.680 And then how much total did you make from each?

05:05:25.480 I don't know.

05:05:27.360 More than $1,000?

05:05:28.300 No, I would say, like, $1,000.

05:05:32.140 I made more on OnlyFans.

05:05:33.660 Okay.

05:05:35.240 Jay, you said that you did have a sugar daddy.

05:05:38.820 He let you live with him for free.

05:05:41.280 Yeah, it was about.

05:05:42.020 In return?

05:05:42.980 Yeah, it was one of my old roommates from, like, six years ago.

05:05:46.440 It was, I hadn't been living in L.A. very long.

05:05:49.140 I moved there in 2017 from Minnesota.

05:05:51.740 I'd probably been living there about a year at the time.

05:05:54.060 And, yeah, I had this old roommate that my friend set me up with where he let me, like, basically live with him for free, like, be his roommate for free.

05:06:03.700 And then I would have sex with him once a week.

05:06:08.260 Was there a contract drafted up?

05:06:09.880 Did you guys have lawyers or what was it?

05:06:11.440 No, it was just kind of for however long I wanted to live there.

05:06:15.020 How long was this arrangement taking place?

05:06:18.460 It was, like, a few months.

05:06:19.580 A few months?

05:06:20.620 And then after that, I just moved somewhere else and got a regular, normal roommate and started paying rent again.

05:06:26.240 If he had not let you live there for free, would you have had sex with him?

05:06:30.780 No.

05:06:32.080 So you were a prostitute?

05:06:35.100 Yeah, I guess.

05:06:37.100 That's okay, though.

05:06:38.000 Is it?

05:06:41.680 Okay.

05:06:42.860 Is it?

05:06:43.580 Chat.

05:06:46.140 What does the table think?

05:06:47.940 How old were you?

05:06:49.120 I was 26.

05:06:52.740 Oh.

05:06:53.260 But, like, it also depends on circumstances.

05:06:55.640 Someone's, like, someone's circumstances where it kind of brings them into having to do things like that simply because their situation is difficult.

05:07:04.460 Yeah, and I wasn't a bad student.

05:07:06.420 I was broke at the time.

05:07:07.120 But I'm not saying, like, would I do it?

05:07:08.980 No.

05:07:09.640 But I'm just saying that I won't judge somebody that has done it because I don't know what their situation was for them to get into that situation.

05:07:16.380 You know what I mean?

05:07:16.900 So.

05:07:17.540 I was broke at the time, and I was trying to save money, so that's what it was.

05:07:22.600 And now I'm not broke anymore, so I would never do that now because I don't need to.

05:07:27.860 Personally, I'd rather be homeless.

05:07:29.780 I've lived in a car before, and I'd rather do that again.

05:07:35.040 Honestly, same.

05:07:36.880 I lived in a car before, and I wouldn't do it again, so I'm very happy to be dancing.

05:07:41.120 It's been such a blessing for me, and I would never go back.

05:07:43.740 Do you guys do the whole, like, live with a guy, fuck him once a week, and you get to live rent-free?

05:07:48.180 No, I like paying my rent on my own, and I'm not relying on anyone for that.

05:07:52.500 No, okay, I get it.

05:07:53.160 You guys just fuck once a month.

05:07:55.240 No.

05:07:55.760 Okay, my bad.

05:07:56.320 I misread that.

05:07:57.220 Okay, going to you, you said you've had a sugar daddy, and you've sold pics a couple times?

05:08:03.760 A few times, yeah.

05:08:04.780 I did OnlyFans for, like, a month.

05:08:06.960 And then the sugar daddy, like, how much money did he give you?

05:08:09.720 It varies.

05:08:10.480 I had three different ones.

05:08:12.840 How about each one, and then total, total?

05:08:16.100 Oh.

05:08:18.380 Okay, so I had one that I would see for dinners, and he was from Europe, so I would only see him so often.

05:08:24.900 So it would be between $2,000 to $5,000 every time I saw him.

05:08:29.360 And then the other one, I actually had a similar situation like that one when I was 19.

05:08:37.360 I had terrible roommates, and just shit went south, so that's why I ended up getting in that situation for a little bit.

05:08:46.060 And so, but he would take me to, like, all these parties.

05:08:49.000 I was so young, and I was, like, it wasn't, he would take me shopping and stuff like that.

05:08:52.340 It wasn't, like, physical, like, he was giving me money all the time.

05:08:55.820 And then.

05:08:56.960 You said one guy per hangout, he was giving you a couple.

05:08:59.760 Two to 5K.

05:09:00.320 Two to 5K.

05:09:01.140 How much total did he give you?

05:09:03.080 I don't remember, because he was really a golden calf.

05:09:05.580 He would only come in a few times a year, and it was, like, owned roughly, like, four times, five times.

05:09:12.540 Total?

05:09:13.100 Yeah, total.

05:09:13.800 Per year.

05:09:14.100 Okay.

05:09:14.620 All right.

05:09:15.140 Got it.

05:09:16.040 Okay.

05:09:16.240 We're going to get into the, some of the more juicy stuff on the questionnaire now.

05:09:21.880 Starting from the top, I guess.

05:09:25.160 Let me just see who responded in the disagreement here.

05:09:31.540 Okay.

05:09:32.860 All right.

05:09:34.760 Allie, you disagree that transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners.

05:09:41.580 Do I think you should?

05:09:42.360 Yeah, but, like, duty was a strong word, so I just said.

05:09:45.320 Yeah.

05:09:46.520 That's your choice, but I don't think it's going to get you in a good situation in a relationship.

05:09:50.820 Okay.

05:09:54.020 But you think they should?

05:09:56.180 Disclose?

05:09:56.620 Yeah.

05:09:56.860 Disclose.

05:09:57.780 Like, I've never lived that life, so, like, you do you.

05:10:01.900 All right.

05:10:02.500 Well, I don't know if I really want to dive too deep on that insofar as you're kind of, it seems like, you know it's wrong, but.

05:10:11.000 I suppose we could have a, we could have a debate on, like, should it be a duty?

05:10:18.500 But, I don't know.

05:10:19.540 Andrew, anything quick on this, or?

05:10:23.080 He's not, I don't know.

05:10:24.260 Not straight for a man to date a trans woman.

05:10:30.020 To which you disagree.

05:10:32.060 To which you disagree.

05:10:33.340 That it's not.

05:10:34.260 It is not straight for a man to date a trans woman.

05:10:37.660 So, I guess cis man for you, I guess.

05:10:40.060 Oh, thank you.

05:10:41.060 Yeah.

05:10:41.300 For the clarification.

05:10:41.940 So, not straight for a cis man to date a trans woman.

05:10:44.240 How about that?

05:10:45.760 You disagree?

05:10:46.800 I do, yeah.

05:10:47.560 Yeah.

05:10:47.840 Okay.

05:10:49.480 So, you think it would be straight then?

05:10:51.880 Yes.

05:10:52.400 And then, Jay, you also disagreed, correct?

05:10:55.780 Oh, that it would be?

05:10:59.820 I think, yeah, yeah, it would be straight for a cis man to date a trans woman.

05:11:05.160 Okay.

05:11:05.600 Because they're a woman, regardless.

05:11:06.880 So, my position would be that this would, two males having sex, regardless of your gender

05:11:17.940 identity, that would be a homosexual act.

05:11:20.660 That would be gay.

05:11:21.340 It would not be straight.

05:11:23.060 That's your opinion.

05:11:23.980 And as somebody who is straight, I think that is, to some degree, offensive to my sexuality.

05:11:29.420 Do we no longer have to discuss that?

05:11:32.200 Oh, I'm happy to discuss things that I find offensive.

05:11:35.460 Oh, earlier you said.

05:11:36.180 Yeah.

05:11:36.380 Anyways, I was going on the hypothetical.

05:11:38.140 Anyways, sorry.

05:11:38.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:11:39.300 So, I guess my question to you guys is, you both say that it would be straight.

05:11:45.600 So, I suppose first we need to define what is a woman.

05:11:52.400 So, what is a woman?

05:11:54.260 Going around the table.

05:11:55.720 Gender identity or sexual.

05:11:58.260 Like, are you talking about what someone's born as, their sex or their gender?

05:12:02.680 Because that's two different things.

05:12:04.060 How about, I'll walk back and we'll come right back to that in just a sec.

05:12:10.060 Is a transgender woman female?

05:12:14.720 I think if you're looking at definitions, no.

05:12:16.720 But like, don't quote me.

05:12:17.860 I think that's like a sex term.

05:12:21.700 Yeah, sex.

05:12:22.120 I'm not sure.

05:12:22.480 Yeah.

05:12:22.640 Male, female, sex.

05:12:23.880 Man, woman, gender.

05:12:25.560 Well, I'm going to grant that for the sake of the conversation.

05:12:27.980 But, so, transgender woman is female?

05:12:34.340 Transgender woman.

05:12:35.960 Is male or female?

05:12:39.040 Again, I don't know if we're talking about identity or parts.

05:12:41.900 No, sex.

05:12:42.700 When I say male, female, I'm talking about sex.

05:12:45.320 I think in like a medical way, male.

05:12:50.220 Then you go to the doctor and you're looking for medical.

05:12:52.460 Maybe we can just clarify the terms real quick and you can correct me if I'm wrong.

05:12:58.340 When we associate gender, we're talking about gender.

05:13:00.840 We're talking about a self-set identity which revolves around specifically the idea of describing a phenomenon of males or females who don't associate with the sex they were assigned to at birth.

05:13:17.060 Correct.

05:13:17.340 Would that be correct for gender?

05:13:19.840 Okay.

05:13:20.480 Again, that's what I think it is going off of because, again, I'm sorry, backwards brain.

05:13:24.720 But you would, I mean, you would agree largely to those terms?

05:13:28.280 Yes.

05:13:28.840 That that's basically what we're talking about?

05:13:30.140 And then when we're talking about sex, we're talking about the biological association of being able to produce large or small gametes, XX or XY chromosomes, et cetera?

05:13:40.520 Yes.

05:13:41.440 Yeah.

05:13:41.740 Okay.

05:13:42.200 Okay.

05:13:42.440 So then now you know you're not speaking past each other.

05:13:44.780 Yeah.

05:13:44.880 And then going to you, so a transgender woman is male or female?

05:13:50.120 Oh, they're a woman.

05:13:50.900 Yeah.

05:13:53.940 But so I'm, so transgender woman, I'll go ahead just for the sake of the conversation, I'll go ahead and grant that a transgender woman is a woman.

05:14:00.740 But is a transgender woman a female?

05:14:03.520 Biologically is what you're asking, right?

05:14:04.660 Well, I'm asking her.

05:14:05.820 Oh, biologically, no.

05:14:08.560 But identity, yes.

05:14:10.420 Well, here's the thing, though.

05:14:11.620 I'm going to have to disagree with you there.

05:14:13.300 While I'm going to go ahead and grant that a transgender woman can identify as a woman, a transgender woman cannot identify as female.

05:14:25.960 Sex.

05:14:27.120 I'm talking about sex.

05:14:28.700 Great.

05:14:29.300 Right.

05:14:29.560 So I guess the question again, is a transgender woman a female or a male?

05:14:34.900 Biologically, they would be male.

05:14:36.680 Okay.

05:14:38.300 So when we're talking about sexuality, sexual preference has always been intended as referring to what sex you prefer.

05:14:47.440 And so when we say heterosexual or homosexual, when we say homosexual, we mean a same-sex relationship.

05:14:54.860 You would agree then that a trans, somebody who's transgender has not changed their sex?

05:15:01.600 To you and to?

05:15:02.480 I get what you're, I get what you're going at, but I didn't know that fact, so.

05:15:06.220 Okay.

05:15:06.820 But so, I mean, if homosexual means same-sex relationship, perhaps you can argue they've changed their gender, but you would never argue that they've changed their sex.

05:15:18.500 So if that's the case, then a cis man and a transgender woman would be in a homosexual relationship.

05:15:25.140 Is that, would you guys agree with that?

05:15:26.640 Like, based off, if you're giving me factual-based information and you're giving me the definitions and you've proved me wrong, then sure.

05:15:31.900 Okay.

05:15:32.420 And then, for you, any thoughts on this?

05:15:35.400 I'd say yeah, because it's, uh, sex is your biology and then gender is your identity.

05:15:40.120 Okay.

05:15:40.660 I just genuinely didn't know that, so, like, that's funny.

05:15:42.360 Sure.

05:15:42.900 But so straight is a short-form slang for heterosexual.

05:15:46.560 So you both disagreed that it would not be straight for a man to date a trans woman.

05:15:51.260 Uh, would you then agree that it's not straight?

05:15:58.440 Short-form, but, like, by definition, isn't that the version that talks about identity?

05:16:04.020 Not sex?

05:16:05.280 Well, straight is short-form heterosexual.

05:16:06.500 That's what I'm saying.

05:16:07.000 I know you're saying short-form.

05:16:07.940 I just, I'm telling you, like, my understanding was that straight was referring to what you identify as.

05:16:14.060 Yeah.

05:16:14.440 I thought the same thing.

05:16:16.040 Yeah.

05:16:16.360 I was thinking the same thing.

05:16:17.480 Identity, not sex.

05:16:18.780 Okay.

05:16:19.000 That's fair.

05:16:20.060 Would it be heterosexual?

05:16:23.080 I guess not, based off definition, no.

05:16:25.820 Okay.

05:16:27.380 Okay.

05:16:27.900 And if we, if we, we say straight, we mean heterosexual.

05:16:31.800 That's what we're referring to.

05:16:33.480 Then I guess not.

05:16:34.320 But, like, again, when it comes down to, like, what I thought the definition of was, I'm just telling you that's why I answered that way.

05:16:39.720 Sure, sure.

05:16:40.200 I understand.

05:16:41.100 I have, like, a little question.

05:16:42.580 I don't really, I mean, when it comes to, like, trans and stuff.

05:16:46.700 I have, so, I have a couple, actually, things to say.

05:16:52.460 So, with the whole cis thing, I totally understand that.

05:16:55.160 I'm, like, being, like, a little bit offended by it.

05:16:57.940 Honestly, when I was 18, I was in a homeless shelter, and it was LGBTQ.

05:17:01.160 And, like, I had, like, a lot of interesting experiences, you know?

05:17:07.340 And I just think that it, especially when it comes to, it's not every trans woman, but I think I've personally, like, experienced so many discussions that were, like, diminishing being a woman.

05:17:22.860 And it makes you feel, like, you know, like, taking away the, it takes away, like, from, I don't know, it takes away from women.

05:17:33.280 Like, I mean, I don't see people, I don't see really so much the people who transition to male, like, really, like, really interfere in that area.

05:17:41.820 But I feel, like, it gets kind of uncomfortable when they, like, keep telling you, like, no, like, they, like, undermine, like, what it is to be a woman.

05:17:51.100 Like, I don't know how to explain it, but.

05:17:54.500 I just don't understand that, because I don't, we changed.

05:17:57.380 Maybe I can help give some words to this, because I've listened to this phenomenon for a couple of years.

05:18:02.740 You can tell me if I'm wrong.

05:18:03.880 But if you were to try to describe a sunrise to a blind man, it would be essentially impossible, right, what it actually looks like in the encapsulations.

05:18:13.220 Because any time you try to capture the essence of a thing, you always fall short, right?

05:18:18.960 You can really only understand the perception of a thing.

05:18:22.300 But capturing the essence of it is next to impossible.

05:18:25.240 So, when you're talking about the essence of what a woman is, right, you feel like perhaps there's something of a mockery made there because they're not actually capturing that essence.

05:18:35.820 Would that be correct?

05:18:37.480 Yes, exactly that.

05:18:39.160 And then, you know, they can sometimes get really mad when you don't use the right terminology for them or, like, you know, what their gender is.

05:18:47.760 And it's, like, I think it creates so much just stress.

05:18:52.280 And I just don't know, I don't know, it's been really hard the past couple years for me.

05:18:55.840 Like, you know how some people use they, them?

05:18:57.920 And, like, when it comes to things like that, it's just, like, hard to change your vocabulary of the English you've been taught.

05:19:03.140 You know what I mean?

05:19:03.660 Like, I can't refer to someone as a they naturally just because in, like, English language, it just doesn't, like, fit in my head.

05:19:11.620 Like, you know what I mean?

05:19:12.440 It's not how you've done it.

05:19:13.560 Yeah, like, it's, and then, like, we're all changing how we speak and I'm just not trying to offend anyone.

05:19:19.280 And I'm, like, I'm all for, like, if you want to be, if you're a man and you want to dress like a woman, you want to be a woman.

05:19:25.780 Like, I just don't see, like, it just feels like it's so offensive to just be, like, I'm a woman, too.

05:19:31.940 Like, it's just, like, it can be really overwhelming.

05:19:33.540 I think that's what I was trying to get at earlier of just, like, I'm not here to preach that, like, everyone's in the right on the trans side

05:19:41.740 or everyone's in the right on the other, like, whatever you want to call it.

05:19:45.020 I think it's the only term I have, so I don't really know what you want me to call it.

05:19:47.560 Yeah.

05:19:47.700 But, like, down to the core of it, I just think that, like, people can be assholes.

05:19:51.200 And as long as you're not an asshole, then great.

05:19:53.060 So, like, if you're going to violently correct people, you are the one causing the conflict.

05:19:57.620 And I don't agree with that either.

05:19:59.620 But I just think, like...

05:20:00.080 I do have to move things on unless there's a really important...

05:20:03.740 Andrew, do you have anything on this or...?

05:20:05.920 No, you can move on from there.

05:20:07.560 I was just...

05:20:08.600 Though I was mansplaining a bit, I thought that perhaps I could capture the kind of the point of what was being said.

05:20:17.820 Do you feel like I gave it pretty good?

05:20:19.160 Oh, definitely.

05:20:19.860 I think it helped me put it in the right order.

05:20:22.500 Final thing...

05:20:23.080 Sometimes mansplaining that toxic masculinity is good, you know.

05:20:27.340 Final thing on this.

05:20:30.420 It sounds like you've kind of perhaps accepted our definition insofar.

05:20:34.740 Like, you accept that that's how we view it, but do you view it that way?

05:20:39.580 Which one, I'm sorry?

05:20:40.460 For the straight thing.

05:20:42.160 Is it straight?

05:20:42.980 Oh, no, I just mean, like, I've always...

05:20:44.500 It's always, to me, been treated as, like, being a gender identity thing.

05:20:48.840 So, if I'm wrong, then I need to go educate myself.

05:20:50.780 Does that make sense?

05:20:51.320 Like, I'm not saying, like, oh, that's your opinion, you can have it.

05:20:53.580 And mine's different.

05:20:54.620 I'm just saying, like, I just genuinely believe that those were the two, like, differentiations.

05:20:58.660 Yeah.

05:20:59.120 So, if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

05:21:01.160 Okay.

05:21:01.940 I'm down to be wrong.

05:21:02.900 That's okay.

05:21:03.340 Did you, when you said violence, though, when you said violent correction, do you consider

05:21:07.620 words themselves to be violence?

05:21:09.360 I think that it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

05:21:11.680 She was just referring to, like, personal experience and, like, people aggressively,

05:21:15.660 or, like, I don't really know what else...

05:21:17.620 Yeah, but do you consider words themselves to be violence?

05:21:20.160 Say that again?

05:21:21.340 Do you consider words themselves to be violent?

05:21:23.760 No.

05:21:24.580 I also don't think violent was the right word.

05:21:25.940 I was meaning to say aggressive, so...

05:21:28.060 Oh, aggressive.

05:21:28.740 Okay.

05:21:28.920 Uh, let's see.

05:21:30.500 Nikki, uh, you disagreed that men are physically stronger than women.

05:21:36.700 You know, I say that because women give birth, and that's something that men will never be

05:21:41.020 able to do.

05:21:42.020 Okay.

05:21:42.460 And that's really tough on our body.

05:21:44.400 Different version of strength.

05:21:45.420 Yeah, it's a different version of strength.

05:21:46.560 Wouldn't that be pain tolerance, though?

05:21:49.500 Is it?

05:21:49.900 Well, I feel like it's...

05:21:51.000 Because, you know, we have to carry this child.

05:21:52.420 Wouldn't that also negate that trans men can be women?

05:21:57.580 I mean, I'm sorry, trans women could be...

05:22:00.060 Yeah, trans women could be women.

05:22:03.540 I'm just saying.

05:22:04.940 But anyway, go ahead.

05:22:07.160 Um, I mean, that's all I have to say, because...

05:22:09.900 I mean, yeah, like, obviously you guys, like, have, like, different level of strength than

05:22:13.780 we...

05:22:14.100 Wait, but hold on, I think I can probably make this super simple, though.

05:22:18.140 But, like, you acknowledge that, like, extremely physically weak women can have, give birth

05:22:23.920 and be pregnant?

05:22:25.840 Yeah.

05:22:26.600 Right.

05:22:27.040 Like, the weakest woman in the world could get pregnant and give birth.

05:22:30.900 Yeah.

05:22:31.220 Right, so what does that have to do with physical strength?

05:22:33.500 Because I feel like we have to, like, carry around that kid for nine months, and then

05:22:36.540 we have to deal with, like, you know, just carrying the kids around.

05:22:40.860 Yeah.

05:22:40.980 It's just a different version.

05:22:41.840 Like, obviously, like, I could never see myself doing construction, like, how these

05:22:45.540 men do.

05:22:46.000 So they're obviously stronger than me in that aspect, you know.

05:22:49.640 But men can't give birth, so there wouldn't really be, like, anything to compete over.

05:22:53.660 Like, there wouldn't really be a comparison there.

05:22:56.300 Like, do you think if men, if, like, men would not...

05:23:00.240 If men could get pregnant and give birth, like, they wouldn't be, like, that's...

05:23:05.540 I'm just confused, I guess.

05:23:06.560 But, so you're not...

05:23:07.940 When it comes to actual physical strength?

05:23:10.320 I mean, I guess I'm kind of just, like, a little 50-50, because obviously I would never

05:23:13.740 be able to do those same work that a man does, like, in construction.

05:23:17.200 Like, I know I'll never be able to do that same work that they do, so...

05:23:19.800 Sure.

05:23:20.020 Uh, and then going to, uh, Milena?

05:23:24.200 Did I say that right this time?

05:23:25.840 Uh, you disagree that you can be sexist towards men.

05:23:29.460 Hey, guys, quiet back there, please.

05:23:32.180 Um, I don't think it's okay to be sexist towards men or women.

05:23:37.700 Oh, no.

05:23:38.700 Perhaps, uh...

05:23:40.680 Oh, like, is it a possibility?

05:23:43.020 Yeah, people can.

05:23:44.140 Do I think it's okay?

05:23:45.140 No.

05:23:46.360 Okay.

05:23:47.120 Yeah.

05:23:48.020 Um...

05:23:48.500 We were having a rough time with these questions.

05:23:50.020 Mm-hmm.

05:23:50.920 I guess I probably misunderstood.

05:23:52.660 It's more so, like, you can be sexist towards...

05:23:55.680 Like, as in, some people, for example, say, uh, because men are privileged, uh, you can't

05:24:02.240 be sexist towards them, because, like, they're part of the oppressor class.

05:24:06.940 I disagree.

05:24:09.400 So you can...

05:24:10.600 So you agree that you can be sexist towards men?

05:24:15.140 Yeah.

05:24:16.040 Okay, then that was, uh...

05:24:17.480 Okay, never mind then.

05:24:18.160 I don't think it's okay to do.

05:24:19.160 That's what I meant.

05:24:20.400 All right.

05:24:21.140 Uh, let's see.

05:24:23.760 Uh, Allie, you disagree that there is no gender wage gap.

05:24:30.820 Yeah, I had to think about that.

05:24:32.260 Like, the double negative thing.

05:24:33.600 Yeah.

05:24:34.560 That I think that there is a gender wage gap.

05:24:37.000 Yeah, you think there is a gender wage gap.

05:24:38.840 Uh, Jay, you also think that there is a gender wage gap?

05:24:44.240 I think, I thought it was pretty well known that there was in a lot of industries.

05:24:47.740 Mm-hmm.

05:24:49.140 Um, do you think that, question for you two then, do you guys think that, uh, WNBA players

05:24:54.040 should be paid the same as NBA players?

05:24:56.400 I don't follow any of that, but I mean, I guess, sure.

05:24:59.900 Okay.

05:25:00.120 Unless you have facts to tell me now.

05:25:00.900 It looks like you agree and you think the...

05:25:03.400 I think they should be paid the same, but I think it does come down to, like, who is

05:25:08.100 getting the most views, interaction, brand deals, all of those different things.

05:25:11.820 And I think that's the same when it comes to the jobs that men and women are traditionally

05:25:16.700 doing.

05:25:17.400 I think it's definitely changing, but, I mean, throughout history, like, women were traditionally

05:25:22.380 in the home, so obviously they weren't making any money.

05:25:25.640 But I think that when it comes to being in, in industry, men just happen to be in more

05:25:32.600 high-paying jobs just with how the world is.

05:25:36.900 So I don't think that it's necessarily having to do with gender and more so with what jobs

05:25:42.180 I was just more focused on the WNBA thing.

05:25:46.360 So you said that the WNBA players should be paid the same as the NBA players?

05:25:51.180 Yeah, I do think so.

05:25:52.180 But you also said, well, it depends on how much money they bring in, right?

05:25:55.460 Yeah.

05:25:55.860 Like, I mean, in a perfect world, I think they should be paid the same.

05:25:58.320 I think that the circumstances make it so that they aren't.

05:26:01.460 Right, but in a perfect world, there shouldn't be war and everyone should be pretty and nobody

05:26:04.840 could be fat and blah, blah, blah.

05:26:06.000 So, like, but I'm asking this question, like, as the world currently is.

05:26:12.200 So, like, it's kind of pointless to be like, oh, in a perfect world, the world's never going

05:26:17.840 to be perfect.

05:26:18.060 I, like, don't think that it's situationally possible for them to be paid the same right

05:26:22.320 now just because of how everything is.

05:26:23.820 So I guess no to that direct question.

05:26:26.020 Okay.

05:26:26.500 And then WNBA players, should they be paid the same as NBA players?

05:26:32.660 No, that's literally the exact same standpoint I have.

05:26:35.020 Like, it's just not possible.

05:26:36.060 And then what about you?

05:26:37.660 I think they deserve to be, but I know the fan base isn't fully there yet because I think

05:26:41.820 it depends a lot on, like, viewers, fans, like, how much money they bring in, you know,

05:26:46.540 selling tickets for games, like merchandise, brand deals, things like that.

05:26:50.600 All right.

05:26:51.700 But, so, okay.

05:26:52.660 Going to the gender wage gap then, what do you guys, you guys think that there is one?

05:26:58.740 What do you guys think that is?

05:27:00.800 I only know that there is one because I have seen the studies.

05:27:05.700 Yeah, literally.

05:27:06.240 And it was ages ago.

05:27:07.260 So, like, I am not one to speak on facts.

05:27:09.800 Okay.

05:27:11.220 Andrew, you want to quickly do a quick thing on the wage gap?

05:27:14.800 Well, yeah, I mean, we can dive into it.

05:27:21.040 So, the idea here that it, I mean, it's essentially just that for the same work, women should be

05:27:29.600 paid the same as a man.

05:27:31.920 And the problem is, is that when we start actually running studies on this and we start kind of

05:27:37.400 diving into it, we recognize very quickly that there's some offsets that don't really make a lot

05:27:42.980 of sense.

05:27:43.480 For instance, maternity leave and risk association.

05:27:47.400 So, if you were to think that you are in charge of a business and you have to hire an employee,

05:27:54.060 you can find a male and a female, and they're perhaps both equally qualified.

05:27:58.240 But the woman will want to offset for family time, and will want to offset more for pregnancies

05:28:04.380 and things like this, makes them a bit of a higher risk, which brings their negotiating

05:28:08.860 power down.

05:28:10.260 Really doesn't have anything to do with sexism.

05:28:12.780 It seems to mostly only have to do with the fact that there's a risk association which occurs

05:28:19.140 with this.

05:28:19.920 And so, it's just negotiating leverage.

05:28:24.100 Also, really quick, who here wants a...

05:28:26.440 You don't think...

05:28:27.220 I don't know.

05:28:27.680 Chair one looks like she wants to disagree.

05:28:30.480 I have no...

05:28:31.160 I have no root facts at my hands that you do not have.

05:28:35.300 I worked in HR, and I just saw a lot of things about exactly what you're talking about.

05:28:42.480 And there's studies in other countries that prove that whenever you give the same amount

05:28:46.900 of paternity leave as maternity leave, that morale and production rates go up.

05:28:53.780 And so, like, if you look at it that way, if we had it equal, then wouldn't you have the

05:28:58.340 same risk?

05:28:59.400 Well, in those countries...

05:29:00.400 But we don't.

05:29:00.780 In those same countries, they create uniformity laws.

05:29:05.200 So, what they do is they say, you simply can't.

05:29:08.680 You simply can't pay a distinct wage.

05:29:11.160 But, if left to their own devices, they will pay a distinct wage.

05:29:16.300 But the question is not whether or not they pay this wage based on the fact that they're

05:29:21.300 being sexist, but based on the fact that they're doing a basic risk assessment.

05:29:24.920 So, if one sex is more riskier than the other sex to employ, why wouldn't you, as the employer,

05:29:33.560 opt for the sex that have less risk?

05:29:36.240 That's what I don't understand.

05:29:39.640 Like you said, you have more facts than me.

05:29:41.880 I don't...

05:29:42.300 No, no, no.

05:29:42.720 I have no different facts than you.

05:29:44.160 Oh, I thought you said you did.

05:29:45.040 I'm sorry.

05:29:45.740 Yeah, I have no different facts than you have.

05:29:48.400 I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of logical assessment.

05:29:53.520 So, in this case, I'm just going to grant that it exists.

05:29:56.060 I'm just going to grant.

05:29:57.140 I'm not even going to crunch the numbers.

05:29:58.720 I'm not going to do the math, right?

05:30:00.400 Many people have done it.

05:30:01.360 It's highly contested.

05:30:02.440 But I don't even think we need to.

05:30:04.140 If you're just looking at it from an employer basis, why wouldn't you take into account risk

05:30:09.240 assessment when it came to hiring men versus women?

05:30:11.720 That seems totally reasonable to me.

05:30:14.220 I mean, if you're only looking at that risk, then sure.

05:30:16.260 And I just, like, I know that this can go further and further and further.

05:30:19.140 And so, I was just trying to avoid that.

05:30:20.400 But, like, there's plenty of other risk factors that I'm sure you could look at that I don't

05:30:23.480 have the facts on.

05:30:24.320 So, I'm not one to be argumentative about it.

05:30:27.080 Okay.

05:30:28.780 Final question on this, on the wage gap thing.

05:30:31.400 Who here wants a guy to pay for the first date?

05:30:33.380 Show of hands.

05:30:34.680 Yes.

05:30:35.480 One, two, three, four.

05:30:38.600 Yeah, I mean, so you want the man to pay for the first date?

05:30:41.900 Maybe just scoot into the table a little bit if you can.

05:30:43.760 Here, I'm going to get it off that angle.

05:30:50.240 There's a lot of reasons.

05:30:52.320 Well, one, the wage gap doesn't really exist.

05:30:54.360 When you control for all factors, it shrinks down to something like 99 cents to the dollar,

05:31:00.260 as opposed to the uncontrolled gender wage gap, which doesn't factor in for time, hours worked,

05:31:06.520 location, seniority, type of job, overtime hours worked, these sorts of things.

05:31:14.360 But when it comes to this, couldn't you just argue, like putting all those other things

05:31:21.820 aside, couldn't you just argue, well, okay, let's say 50% of women want men to pay for

05:31:25.980 the first date.

05:31:26.860 Wouldn't this create like enough of a mating and social pressure on men that doesn't exist

05:31:34.220 in women in terms of a motivating factor that because of this, men just are more motivated

05:31:41.680 and they work harder because of the pressure that women put on men?

05:31:46.800 I personally wouldn't.

05:31:56.920 I normally have like a way of, I will let a guy pay for the meal if he insists on it,

05:32:05.700 but I normally always pay for my own because that's only because of her life.

05:32:10.400 And in addition to that, even though some of the girls didn't say like, oh, I want a guy

05:32:14.960 to pay for the first date, probably I would argue those of you who, even if you didn't

05:32:19.400 raise your hand, even if you don't want it, you still have the experience of having men

05:32:25.100 pay for the first date anyway.

05:32:27.160 Would that be the case for you?

05:32:28.980 Yeah, because I always suggest like no, because I don't know if there's going to be a second

05:32:34.280 date, so I don't see why you should be wasting your money on me type shit.

05:32:37.180 So, I normally always pay for my own things, but some people, some men insist on it.

05:32:42.980 Insist, sure.

05:32:43.480 Yeah.

05:32:43.980 Right.

05:32:44.640 So, it occurs to me that there's a good probability, even if only like 50% of women, I think it's

05:32:50.220 more, but even if only 50% of women want a man who's a provider, want a man to pay for

05:32:55.700 first dates or subsequent dates, that this is going to create a pressure on men that you

05:33:02.880 don't see this pressure being equally applied to women or even at all applied to women.

05:33:09.700 I, for example, or I've never gone on a date with a woman with the expectation that she

05:33:14.560 pays the entire bill, but there are plenty of women who go on dates with the expectation

05:33:18.520 that the entire bill be paid for them.

05:33:21.080 And so, for this reason, I think just this alone would actually just explain the way

05:33:25.500 the gender wage gap.

05:33:26.380 Men are just simply more motivated by women's own pressure on men to be providers and to

05:33:32.100 pay for dates.

05:33:32.760 Moving things on, going over to Laura, you said you disagree that men are the primary

05:33:38.720 victims of war.

05:33:41.160 I really didn't understand that question, but I think every, I mean, obviously if there's

05:33:44.960 war, everyone's a victim of it.

05:33:46.660 Yeah.

05:33:46.800 Everybody's a victim, but like there could be primary, secondary victims.

05:33:51.460 Like, for example, how about this?

05:33:57.000 Do I want to use an extreme example?

05:33:58.920 Like, okay, let's say there's a war and it's just men fighting and a hundred thousand men

05:34:03.160 die and like the economy sucks for the women and the children and then the men who aren't

05:34:08.220 fighting, who's the primary victim of war.

05:34:10.160 No one's who died.

05:34:12.780 I still think just everybody is fucked.

05:34:14.740 Still the women, even though no women died and a hundred thousand men died?

05:34:18.020 Yeah, because now what are they, I mean, I'm not one that's like, what are we going to

05:34:23.140 do without men?

05:34:24.040 But like, you know, like it would affect the families.

05:34:28.840 Yeah.

05:34:28.980 Okay.

05:34:29.180 So like, um, a woman, uh, a woman who gets essayed, uh, and she has male family members,

05:34:36.500 uh, is she the primary victim of the essay or is like everybody equally a victim because

05:34:41.800 the male family members are very upset about her being essayed and feel really bad about

05:34:47.120 it.

05:34:48.120 Oh, she is, she would be, the girl would be.

05:34:50.440 Okay.

05:34:50.880 And what about like a woman who's, uh, I don't know if this would make her a victim, but in

05:34:55.300 terms of measuring suffering, how about like a woman who's pregnant and she's going through

05:34:59.380 the pains of pregnancy and when she's giving birth, there's like, uh, she's not a victim,

05:35:04.540 but she's perhaps suffering physically.

05:35:07.060 Um, her husband is there seeing her suffer.

05:35:10.580 Uh, is he, is he also, is the suffering equal?

05:35:14.900 No, definitely not.

05:35:16.620 Okay.

05:35:16.920 So like, is dying worse than, so when bringing it back to war, would you say dying is probably

05:35:23.900 worse than like, I'm sure it's very traumatic to like lose a loved one or something in the

05:35:29.160 war and like have the economy fucked, having to rebuild the country or whatever.

05:35:33.080 Living with it as well.

05:35:34.220 Yeah.

05:35:34.980 But yeah, no, definitely, definitely losing your life is more intense.

05:35:38.580 And like, yeah, with that question, I literally thought about like people, like I thought about

05:35:42.500 drafting, like, yeah, like men coming back with the PTSD and stuff like that.

05:35:46.240 That's what I thought.

05:35:46.840 Oh, okay.

05:35:47.440 But now we have women that fight in war, so.

05:35:50.220 Not as many though.

05:35:50.780 Not really.

05:35:51.160 Yeah.

05:35:51.740 Yeah.

05:35:52.340 They're not really ever in combat.

05:35:54.120 Yeah.

05:35:54.380 Very, very rare.

05:35:55.740 I have three, three of my sisters are in the army.

05:35:58.720 And so all three of your sisters were never in combat, so.

05:36:01.860 One of them were.

05:36:03.000 No, none of them were.

05:36:04.000 One's in, yeah.

05:36:05.200 No, no, none.

05:36:06.820 Say it like you actually, like say it, talk about it like you know me.

05:36:09.900 Yeah, no, I, I, I'm, it's not about knowing you.

05:36:13.280 It's about knowing, it's about knowing how it works.

05:36:15.840 And no, they don't send women into frontline combat.

05:36:18.240 It doesn't happen.

05:36:19.620 No, I, I don't know what she does, but as obviously the frontline is a place with people

05:36:25.640 that actually know what they're, have been doing it for way longer.

05:36:29.280 That's your frontline.

05:36:29.960 It's a place that they send male soldiers because they're the only ones who are allowed

05:36:33.040 to fight in frontline combat.

05:36:34.400 That's it.

05:36:37.460 Like it's not, it's not a dunk on you.

05:36:39.340 It's not even.

05:36:39.800 You're just talking now.

05:36:41.260 Oh.

05:36:41.780 It's not even, it's not even a resistance to your position.

05:36:44.500 I'm sure that you have three sisters and all three of them are the bravest military

05:36:47.780 personnel who've ever existed, but they're not in frontline combat.

05:36:50.260 You're really talking to yourself.

05:36:52.620 What's that?

05:36:53.140 I didn't hear you.

05:36:54.320 You're talking to yourself now.

05:36:56.940 Oh, you just shut down.

05:36:57.780 You can't engage.

05:37:00.500 It's too much for you.

05:37:01.480 Was it, was it too much for me to say that your sisters weren't at the front lines with

05:37:05.000 machine guns gunning down the Soviets?

05:37:06.880 Like that was too much for you?

05:37:08.860 That was too much?

05:37:09.820 Your sisters weren't ninjying up the enemy?

05:37:12.360 They didn't crawl through the trenches with a dagger in their teeth and take them down?

05:37:16.340 It was a dirk.

05:37:16.860 Like that was just, that was too much for you.

05:37:18.300 It was a dirk, Andrew.

05:37:19.800 That's how I know you.

05:37:20.540 That was just way over the top of Andrew Wilson to tell you.

05:37:21.840 That's how I know your dick is small, because you have to make up for your personality.

05:37:25.180 That's how I literally know.

05:37:26.900 Wait, wait, hold on.

05:37:28.800 Andrew, I want you to, can you say it one more time?

05:37:31.120 Because.

05:37:32.100 No.

05:37:33.140 Say, come on.

05:37:34.800 Fine.

05:37:35.580 I said, I know your dick is small simply because you're trying to make it up for it through your

05:37:40.440 personality.

05:37:41.300 Oh, no.

05:37:41.780 Yeah, it's as small as your chest is.

05:37:43.040 You're so loud, dude.

05:37:43.960 You're so loud.

05:37:44.580 As small as your chest is flat.

05:37:46.740 Hey, Andrew.

05:37:49.140 Andrew.

05:37:49.420 He has nice boobs.

05:37:52.060 Andrew.

05:37:52.420 He's up here staring at my boobs.

05:37:53.320 Where?

05:37:54.880 Andrew.

05:37:55.640 I'm staring at everybody's boobs.

05:37:57.080 Excuse you.

05:37:58.020 I felt that.

05:37:59.180 There.

05:37:59.620 She said I see them all.

05:38:00.500 Excuse you, Andrew.

05:38:01.260 There.

05:38:02.140 That's where they are.

05:38:03.360 The nice ones.

05:38:05.040 The ones that she's actually in the room with me and actually can look at them.

05:38:08.380 Excuse you, Andrew.

05:38:09.900 How dare you attack the itty bitty titty committee member.

05:38:14.780 Again.

05:38:15.260 I am upset.

05:38:17.560 He's offended, actually.

05:38:18.740 In solidarity.

05:38:19.760 I'm a fucking ally, bro.

05:38:21.200 My feelings have been hurt.

05:38:23.120 Fucking Andrew.

05:38:24.700 Unbelievable.

05:38:26.400 Unbelievable, Andrew.

05:38:27.640 Can't believe.

05:38:29.140 Also, I don't think it's very nice, though, to make fun of people with small penises.

05:38:35.840 And it's not nice to make fun of people with small titties.

05:38:39.160 So, we're even.

05:38:40.580 You started it.

05:38:41.460 You started it.

05:38:42.400 No, I didn't.

05:38:43.240 I finished it.

05:38:43.820 Thank you.

05:38:44.240 Yeah, you did.

05:38:45.020 You started it.

05:38:46.100 No, I didn't.

05:38:47.120 I didn't start anything.

05:38:48.680 No, I didn't start anything.

05:38:49.660 I think you're tripping.

05:38:51.060 You're tripping, Andrew.

05:38:52.160 Calm down.

05:38:52.520 I'm tripping.

05:38:53.240 He's tripping.

05:38:54.480 Calm down.

05:38:55.140 What quantifies a small penis?

05:38:58.160 For those of us that don't know.

05:39:00.400 What do you think?

05:39:01.240 Sorry.

05:39:01.560 Well, I can tell you what.

05:39:02.400 Wait, what?

05:39:02.980 No, not like.

05:39:03.860 You don't have to.

05:39:05.040 I'm going to tell you in half.

05:39:06.240 Like this.

05:39:07.000 Never mind.

05:39:07.980 What?

05:39:08.540 How many inches is a small?

05:39:10.280 Here, tell me when to stop.

05:39:11.580 What do you mean?

05:39:12.260 Tell me when to stop.

05:39:12.940 I think she literally wants to know.

05:39:14.040 Small is five and under.

05:39:15.260 I have my fingers.

05:39:16.300 Tell me when to stop.

05:39:18.660 Stop.

05:39:19.260 Small is five and under.

05:39:20.600 Stop.

05:39:21.020 What?

05:39:21.860 Yeah.

05:39:22.800 Six.

05:39:23.080 Yeah.

05:39:23.340 That's five.

05:39:23.720 Six even.

05:39:24.460 That's okay.

05:39:25.980 Five and under.

05:39:26.760 How dare you talk about Andrew's penis?

05:39:30.480 Oh, my God.

05:39:31.240 That is so rude.

05:39:32.480 I am so ashamed.

05:39:33.840 Oh, my God, Andrew.

05:39:34.700 I'm so sorry.

05:39:35.340 I want you to apologize.

05:39:37.120 I just apologize.

05:39:37.860 I want you to say sorry.

05:39:39.100 Oh, my gosh.

05:39:40.200 I'm so sorry, Andrew.

05:39:41.380 I think Andrew is an apology.

05:39:43.360 That's beautiful.

05:39:44.240 Oh, look at that.

05:39:45.380 Look at that.

05:39:46.060 Why can't we all be friends here?

05:39:47.280 I like that.

05:39:48.120 All right.

05:39:48.500 It's good.

05:39:48.860 It's an apology.

05:39:49.580 Thank you.

05:39:49.900 I appreciate that, Darkavia.

05:39:51.580 And it was so sincere.

05:39:54.240 There you go.

05:39:54.900 I believe it was very sincere.

05:39:56.120 You heard it?

05:39:56.580 You heard it in there?

05:39:57.300 I heard the sincerity.

05:39:57.520 It was very, you know, moving.

05:40:01.080 It was in no way dripping with venom.

05:40:03.060 No way.

05:40:03.960 No way.

05:40:04.560 No way it's true.

05:40:05.460 No way.

05:40:06.080 No way.

05:40:06.880 You know what, though?

05:40:08.180 We got to start making fun of women like, oh, this biatch must have had a cavernous vagina.

05:40:17.160 What does that mean?

05:40:18.460 I love that that's the first thing you came up with.

05:40:20.560 Do you know what a cavern is?

05:40:21.380 Open.

05:40:22.680 A cavern?

05:40:23.440 Oh, my gosh.

05:40:24.260 Have you ever been in a cavern?

05:40:25.960 It's like a cave.

05:40:27.700 Oh, I thought it was a cave.

05:40:28.180 But bigger than a cave.

05:40:29.420 A cavern, bruv.

05:40:31.280 Bruv.

05:40:31.600 Who heard you?

05:40:32.000 So what would a cavern look like?

05:40:33.140 I feel like that was the first thing that, like, that's the first thing that flew into

05:40:35.980 your head.

05:40:36.020 Like, it doesn't have a hole.

05:40:36.900 Look, I'm egalitarian.

05:40:37.980 Like, it's cavern.

05:40:38.980 It's like a tunnel.

05:40:40.860 Cavernous.

05:40:41.500 Yeah.

05:40:41.660 Look, I'm just saying, y'all, y'all be talking like a, like a, like a tic-tac down the hallway.

05:40:46.320 A tic-tac?

05:40:47.080 Like a hot dog down the hallway.

05:40:48.340 Like a, like a, yeah.

05:40:50.860 That's the one problem I've ever had.

05:40:53.200 I'm so lost.

05:40:54.080 But I'm just saying, like, I don't know.

05:40:56.000 These girls will be talking about big dick energy, small dick energy.

05:40:58.460 You got a small dick.

05:40:59.240 You got a shrimp dick.

05:40:59.880 Whatever.

05:41:00.680 Maybe.

05:41:01.160 What?

05:41:01.580 I think we got to start, Andrew, we got to start saying, like, if we're ever disagreeing

05:41:05.700 with the chick, we got to be like, bro, you just got a cavernous vagina.

05:41:11.140 Man, we've been disagreeing all night.

05:41:13.180 This is huge pussy.

05:41:16.220 Not the, not the Audi kind of, like.

05:41:18.340 I was going to say, didn't you say that that was like what you preferred?

05:41:20.740 No.

05:41:21.420 Audis can be very, no, hold on.

05:41:23.360 There's difference.

05:41:25.040 Difference.

05:41:25.480 Okay.

05:41:26.160 Okay.

05:41:27.380 Difference.

05:41:28.120 No, I know.

05:41:28.740 Yeah, I got you.

05:41:29.100 If you love someone, why would the size of the penis matter?

05:41:33.960 That's what I want to know.

05:41:35.000 Well, if you love someone, you got to be able to be satisfied by the person you're

05:41:39.180 with.

05:41:39.860 You can have toys or else you're going to leave.

05:41:42.440 Yeah, like, honestly.

05:41:43.360 Yeah, she's right.

05:41:44.480 Word.

05:41:44.960 That's beautiful.

05:41:45.140 I could do with someone that has a small penis.

05:41:47.160 That is so beautiful.

05:41:47.940 I could not.

05:41:48.300 I could too.

05:41:48.940 I would end up cheating.

05:41:50.480 If I really care about them, I could definitely do it.

05:41:52.860 That increases your chances a little bit because he's a millionaire black autist, but small

05:42:01.180 pee pee, micropene, I think it's improved a little bit.

05:42:05.000 As long as we have good conversation, then it's okay.

05:42:08.660 It's all right.

05:42:09.500 That's all that matters.

05:42:10.160 Yeah.

05:42:10.400 Dude, I love that.

05:42:11.420 That's so nice.

05:42:11.880 I love it.

05:42:14.000 I don't really have anything but my fingers to compare it to, so as long as it's bigger

05:42:18.560 than this.

05:42:18.880 Pump the brakes there.

05:42:19.980 Pump the brakes.

05:42:20.860 Pump the brakes.

05:42:22.020 Oh, here we go.

05:42:22.980 Oh, shit.

05:42:23.980 Oh, shit.

05:42:24.980 Oh, shit.

05:42:25.980 Oh, shit.

05:42:26.980 Oh, shit.

05:42:27.980 Oh, shit.

05:42:28.980 Loose puppy energy.

05:42:29.980 Oh, who's that?

05:42:30.980 Oh, he meant to say loose pu- It changes it now.

05:42:33.820 Oh, yeah.

05:42:34.320 Oh.

05:42:34.820 Oh.

05:42:34.920 Big sass energy.

05:42:35.920 Loose p-word energy.

05:42:37.720 Loose pussy energy.

05:42:38.440 Oh, I just said that.

05:42:39.020 No one needed to be puppies into this.

05:42:40.380 I don't know.

05:42:40.860 Who has that?

05:42:41.580 Loose puppy energy.

05:42:43.720 Stream Labs automatically changes bad words now to other words, I guess.

05:42:48.560 Do they know before they send it?

05:42:50.680 Probably not, huh?

05:42:51.640 Like, does it autocorrect before or just like when it pops up?

05:42:54.320 When it pops up.

05:42:55.200 Yeah, they send it in and-

05:42:56.700 They don't even know what the autocorrect is?

05:42:58.200 That's great.

05:42:58.300 Goes through the bamboozle.

05:42:59.340 It's fantastic.

05:43:00.440 Going to the next thing, Nikki, you disagree.

05:43:06.020 So, the statement is, women are not oppressed in the United States.

05:43:09.360 You disagree.

05:43:09.940 I, okay, let me start off by saying that I'm, I don't, I did not answer this right because

05:43:14.700 honestly, I don't even really know what oppressed means.

05:43:17.460 That's okay.

05:43:18.160 Here, you know what I want, though?

05:43:19.560 Because you don't know the definition of a word.

05:43:22.700 You need to read a page, any page.

05:43:24.680 I want you to just randomly.

05:43:25.700 It's going to be painful.

05:43:26.500 Here.

05:43:26.880 I'm a stutterer.

05:43:28.180 Fudge.

05:43:29.420 Cornelius Fudge.

05:43:30.140 Okay.

05:43:30.360 You're going to read this.

05:43:31.800 That's my favorite character.

05:43:32.400 Okay, read a book from Harry Potter.

05:43:34.280 She's reading Harry Potter.

05:43:35.260 I'm going to embarrass myself.

05:43:35.960 I stutter really bad.

05:43:36.520 Can you kind of like hold it up so that we can-

05:43:37.680 You could do it.

05:43:38.360 Yeah, okay.

05:43:38.760 Yeah, you got it.

05:43:40.180 Wait, this one's shorter.

05:43:41.700 Cornelius Fudge.

05:43:43.060 Did it get fucked?

05:43:43.940 Can I do this one?

05:43:45.040 No, you got to do this.

05:43:46.380 You did say any page.

05:43:47.820 Nope.

05:43:48.180 It's that page.

05:43:48.820 Cornelius Fudge.

05:43:49.640 Go ahead.

05:43:50.720 I'm also a little cracked out from the monster bucket.

05:43:52.800 Quiet, guys.

05:43:53.240 Quiet.

05:43:53.500 Be polite.

05:43:54.240 Be polite.

05:43:54.600 Harry, Ron, and Hermione had always known that Hagrid had an unfortunate liking for large

05:43:59.760 and monstrous creatures.

05:44:01.500 Me too.

05:44:02.220 During their first year at Hogwarts, he tried to raise a dragon in his little wooden house,

05:44:06.400 and it wouldn't be long before they forgot the giant three-headed he'd christened Fluffy,

05:44:12.620 as if boy Hagrid had heard that a monster was hiding somewhere in the castle.

05:44:16.720 Harry was sure he'd have gone to any lengths for a glimpse of it.

05:44:20.100 He probably thought it was a shame that the monster had been cooped up so long and thought

05:44:24.660 it deserved the chance to stretch its many legs.

05:44:28.260 Harry could just imagine the 13-year-old Hagrid trying to fit a leash and collar on it,

05:44:33.560 but he was equally certain that Hagrid would never have meant to kill anybody.

05:44:38.180 Harry half-wished he hadn't found out how to work Riddle's diary.

05:44:46.780 Again and again, Ron and Hermione made him recount.

05:44:50.100 That was the best I'd ever done, I'm going to be honest.

05:44:55.400 All right, I'll take it back.

05:44:56.440 Thank you, thank you very much.

05:44:57.860 Really good job.

05:44:58.760 That was fantastic.

05:44:59.660 Well done, well done.

05:45:00.780 I don't know.

05:45:01.160 Okay, so disagree, though.

05:45:03.440 Women are not, you disagree.

05:45:05.020 Women are not oppressed in the USA.

05:45:07.940 Riri, you also disagreed.

05:45:10.980 And then that's all for the disagreements.

05:45:15.440 Why do you disagree?

05:45:16.540 Okay, can you tell me what it means again?

05:45:17.940 Because that might make me change my answer.

05:45:19.660 Because I really don't know what it means.

05:45:22.120 So I'll Google it just to make sure that we give you the best definition.

05:45:27.380 I need to go back to school.

05:45:28.280 Well, oppression is the unjust or cruel use of power or authority, especially by imposing burdens on a group of people.

05:45:36.760 Malicious or unjust treatment of or exercise of power over a group of individuals, often in the form of government authority.

05:45:43.260 Is that helpful or not really?

05:45:47.420 No.

05:45:47.720 Can I have an example?

05:45:49.380 An example of oppression.

05:45:51.860 You know what?

05:45:52.760 I'll just Google it.

05:45:54.180 Example of oppression.

05:45:56.460 Because it probably made me change my answer.

05:45:57.780 I really didn't know what I was reading.

05:45:59.100 Oh, can I get it in a sentence?

05:46:02.020 Yeah.

05:46:02.420 So I think slavery would be an example of oppression.

05:46:07.780 Oh, okay.

05:46:08.860 Denial.

05:46:10.140 Religious persecution.

05:46:12.580 Like Andrew over here.

05:46:14.780 He used it as an adjective.

05:46:17.180 Yes.

05:46:17.860 Yes.

05:46:20.160 Let's see.

05:46:23.520 I oppressed my wife when I made her cook my dinner.

05:46:28.800 Oppressed.

05:46:29.960 Like he forced her to?

05:46:31.180 W, oppression of Rachel Wilson in the chat.

05:46:34.200 W, oppression.

05:46:35.560 There's not as much oppression as I'd like around here.

05:46:37.760 Yeah, you need to oppress.

05:46:38.740 I got to step it up.

05:46:40.080 Those are rookie numbers, Andrew.

05:46:41.440 Step it up.

05:46:42.160 Say whatever you want to say.

05:46:43.140 It's okay.

05:46:43.780 Another example is like, you know how they have, I'm in the, I don't want to be wrong with the location, but the Middle East, you know, and the women have to be completely covered.

05:46:52.760 That's like an example of oppression.

05:46:54.260 Oh, okay.

05:46:54.680 Okay.

05:46:54.940 So then we're, I don't think we are.

05:46:57.000 Yeah.

05:46:57.180 Okay.

05:46:57.340 We are not oppressed in America.

05:46:59.700 My family's from a third world country.

05:47:01.960 We're not oppressed here.

05:47:02.960 I totally agree that the oppression is nowhere near how it is.

05:47:07.860 And I don't believe that all women are necessarily oppressed depending on how they live, what they're doing.

05:47:13.100 But I do think that in a lot of circumstances when it comes to things like medical oppression where women are less likely to get appropriate treatment and the rates that black women die giving birth, things like that, I do believe our oppression because we just kind of ignore them and brush them under the rug.

05:47:29.980 Aren't women more likely to go to the doctor and less likely to get proper treatment or proper diagnosis?

05:47:37.960 Andrew, do you have anything on this?

05:47:39.380 Well, that one I could give facts on.

05:47:41.820 Give me the facts.

05:47:42.700 No, that's, that was, that was it.

05:47:45.260 I was just joking that I was in a wheelchair.

05:47:46.660 It was just a shitty joke.

05:47:48.080 Yeah.

05:47:48.560 But legitimately, that is true.

05:47:50.060 I thought you said you were going to give me facts on the, the idea of medical care being oppressive towards women.

05:47:55.780 Yeah, it totally did, but it was.

05:47:57.080 Can I provide one counterexample to you?

05:47:59.680 Like, so I think that, I don't know if this is a great argument, but so men are much more likely to be scientifically experimented on consensually, but like this would indicate to me that like men are so desperate for money, they're willing, like they're much more willing than women, for example, to like take experimental drugs, experimental treatments, and to be compensated for money.

05:48:20.580 Um, I think that this would be perhaps a counterexample that, at least in the medical field, uh, why is it like more, well, there are, there, there's a greater proportion of men who are medically experimented on than women.

05:48:34.620 I think if it was the reverse, there would be uproar, like, oh my God, why are we like using women as guinea pigs for medical experimentation?

05:48:42.140 But she used birth as an example.

05:48:44.460 Wait, what?

05:48:45.220 She just used dying, giving birth as an example.

05:48:48.880 Well, black women.

05:48:49.380 In all, in all first world countries, the, um, well, especially in the United States, this is a phenomenon which has been happening where the maternal death rate has climbed, uh, due to, uh, birth.

05:49:06.480 But the reason for this is because of age, women are giving birth later in life in their thirties now.

05:49:11.600 And so this has contributed to the idea that, hey, uh, women suffer greatly under some type of medical malpractice, which is associated with them specifically because now they're dying in childbirth in higher numbers, uh, than they did even 20 or 30 years ago.

05:49:29.860 But it's just because of the age of the women.

05:49:32.920 They're just getting older.

05:49:34.180 They're, they're literally giving birth older, and so they have more complications.

05:49:39.080 And as you age, your liver gets worse, and we still do research to figure out how to give an older person a liver.

05:49:44.200 So why is birth different?

05:49:45.380 Wait, also, I don't know.

05:49:46.440 Well, because you can only do so many contributing factors towards the science of a thing.

05:49:51.780 It's, it's one thing to make the claim, well, you know, uh, are we stopping the science of trying to figure out how to make these births happen in a, in an easier and safer way for women?

05:50:03.880 And the answer is no.

05:50:05.420 But if you just say, well, because it's happening, there's some sort of medical oppression towards them.

05:50:09.940 That's just silly that nobody's ever dealt, no country basically ever has dealt with an aging female population, which is giving birth in their 30s on average.

05:50:20.480 That just, that's never really happened in history.

05:50:22.760 Most women have given birth traditionally in their 20s.

05:50:25.360 And when you take birth out of it, then what about things like doctors refusing to give women testing based on symptoms that they tell them?

05:50:33.380 Or, you know, primarily diagnosing women with some form of hysteria or mental illness before even doing any form of testing and writing that off as okay versus men?

05:50:43.780 Yeah.

05:50:44.180 Well, well, first of all, there's, you have a sampling bias here.

05:50:48.360 You have a lot more women who will go to the doctor before they'll go to a psychologist in order to get a reference to a psychologist.

05:50:55.420 Which I recognize.

05:50:56.200 I'm referring to the ratio.

05:50:58.620 Yeah.

05:50:59.020 Well, I mean, per capita, this is not correct.

05:51:01.920 So, per capita, men are misdiagnosed just as much as women are.

05:51:05.840 I mean, there's no doubt about it.

05:51:06.960 They even come in with very different symptoms than women have because the physiology is different.

05:51:13.400 So, yeah, I mean, per capita misdiagnosis is, it's just as bad.

05:51:18.660 I do admit that more women are misdiagnosed than men.

05:51:21.880 Yeah.

05:51:22.500 But that's because there's a sampling bias and there's a lot more women who go to get treatment than men for various issues.

05:51:28.000 But per capita, no.

05:51:29.520 Well, I hear what you're saying.

05:51:30.860 And I cannot give you, like, a direct link.

05:51:34.860 Everything that I've seen that was research-based was ratio-based, percentage-based, percentage of women that go in versus percentage of men that go in.

05:51:42.720 And the refusal of, you know, getting testing before you even get a misdiagnosis is what I'm referring to.

05:51:49.100 Mental health diagnosis before you even do testing.

05:51:50.400 The same thing happens to men for all sorts of various chronic issues that they have, too.

05:51:56.540 I'm not saying that doesn't happen.

05:51:57.860 It's a sampling of misdiagnoses.

05:51:59.920 Yeah.

05:52:00.240 I was misdiagnosed as a psychopath when I just had alexithymia.

05:52:04.720 So I think it is true.

05:52:06.680 I think women are more misdiagnosed than men.

05:52:08.360 You were never diagnosed as a psychopath.

05:52:10.400 Well, ASPD.

05:52:11.860 ASPD.

05:52:12.260 I was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder.

05:52:16.020 And that was a misdiagnosis.

05:52:18.320 And I think because, I think if I was a man, I was.

05:52:21.340 Yeah, but misdiagnoses in the medical community is very common, especially in psychology, because psychology, there is no physical ailment which can be pointed to, only behavioral ailments.

05:52:32.320 That's it.

05:52:33.520 So because that's the case, the way that we would associate whether somebody is suffering from mental illness would be a deviation from what we would consider typical behavior.

05:52:43.200 So we can't look at physical problems to do most diagnoses.

05:52:48.520 Okay.

05:52:49.100 I mean, there's just no way to do it.

05:52:50.600 You just sample it off at the pool size and say, okay, if this is non-typical behavior in society, that's how you associate what is mental illness and what isn't.

05:52:59.920 There's really no other way to do it.

05:53:01.200 It's a soft science for that reason.

05:53:04.440 If someone presented, like, data to you that proved the other way, would you believe it?

05:53:09.620 Of course.

05:53:10.700 If there was significant data that you could show that the methodology and the soft sciences, which suffer, by the way, heavily from the replication crisis, meaning that most of these studies, most, by the way, not some, upwards in psychology of 60% plus,

05:53:28.720 in some cases, in Canadian psychology, it's been estimated as high as 70%, cannot be replicated, these studies, even with the same exact groups.

05:53:39.420 So they'll get the same doctors, same focal groups, same everything, and they cannot replicate these studies.

05:53:44.100 This is known as the replication crisis.

05:53:46.220 For soft science, this is a big, big problem.

05:53:49.840 Hard sciences don't suffer from this because of controls.

05:53:52.780 So we were talking about, you and I were discussing controls earlier.

05:53:56.480 When you're talking about controls in psychology, it's almost impossible because all you're doing is taking non-typical behavior and trying to group it as being something which can be a predictive model.

05:54:09.160 And it's almost impossible to do.

05:54:11.280 So this is why they're just like, well, maybe your brain chemistry is off.

05:54:14.440 And they basically experiment on you.

05:54:15.860 There's no real way to do it other than that.

05:54:18.780 They could take this pill.

05:54:20.120 Let's see if this makes you feel a little bit better.

05:54:22.100 How do you feel now?

05:54:24.100 There's really no great way to just talk to you for a few minutes and go, okay, you have A, B, C, and D.

05:54:29.860 There's just no way to do that.

05:54:31.240 So going back to this, when it comes to women being oppressed, you cited to like this treatment when it comes to medicine.

05:54:42.500 Although it did occur to me that when it comes to like this differential treatment, when it comes to health care, I think men on average die five years earlier than women.

05:54:55.160 I mean, that's a massive gap.

05:54:57.660 I mean, and that's probably like health related.

05:54:59.420 I mean, it could be like risk related too.

05:55:01.860 Like men take more risks.

05:55:03.280 Like they maybe, I don't know.

05:55:04.560 Or don't go in like you were saying.

05:55:05.720 Men suffer in silence.

05:55:07.420 I've heard things that you wouldn't believe.

05:55:10.260 Like men, there's a lot of young men that are addicted to pornography that want a girlfriend.

05:55:16.640 And it's like, it's so, it's so crazy.

05:55:19.000 And they work a nine to five and they don't tell anybody how they feel.

05:55:22.160 They only tell a therapist or a mental health person.

05:55:24.800 And like, I don't, I don't understand like how is it that people are not worried about this.

05:55:30.740 Because men in their 30s and 40s, I mean, yeah, 20s, 30s and 40s, they want things that they don't think they'll ever get.

05:55:39.080 And they're angry.

05:55:40.220 And like, I've had dudes tell me that they think about essaying women.

05:55:44.200 And then they're like, but I'm not going to do that because I'm a good guy.

05:55:47.360 But then like, they're, they live alone.

05:55:50.760 When they come home from work, they play video games.

05:55:53.360 They watch pornography.

05:55:54.800 And then they have to like deal with the reality that like they're not where they feel like being in life.

05:56:00.780 Like men are, men are really like suffering.

05:56:03.620 And the only reason I know is because of my job.

05:56:06.620 And I, I don't know, like, I feel like the government should be like more worried.

05:56:10.400 Because if like the internet cuts out, like these dudes are going to like go out and like do some really crazy stuff.

05:56:17.340 Maybe.

05:56:17.980 I don't know.

05:56:19.120 I don't know.

05:56:19.920 Because the stuff I hear is like crazy.

05:56:21.660 Going back to this though, you did say that women are oppressed.

05:56:25.040 Do you think you're oppressed?

05:56:26.040 I really, I don't think that I necessarily experience oppression in the same way.

05:56:31.800 I think I do think about things that other people might not necessarily see as oppression.

05:56:36.520 Like how the cost for like a prostate cancer exam.

05:56:41.160 Oh.

05:56:43.820 Why are you guys laughing?

05:56:46.140 If the internet cuts out.

05:56:49.040 They're screwed.

05:56:50.300 They're screwed.

05:56:51.140 If the internet goes out.

05:56:52.260 They're screwed, bro.

05:56:53.420 The world is coming to an end.

05:56:55.460 I think it's like the Adderall shortage, you know.

05:56:58.300 Oh, yeah.

05:56:58.960 Okay.

05:56:59.400 All right.

05:57:01.620 So, women, are you oppressed?

05:57:04.540 Yeah.

05:57:05.000 I don't think I necessarily experience it directly.

05:57:08.040 Okay.

05:57:08.480 Yeah.

05:57:08.980 But so, but women are oppressed in the USA.

05:57:10.980 Yeah.

05:57:11.320 Okay.

05:57:12.740 I don't believe that all women in the U.S. experience oppression, but I do believe that.

05:57:16.440 And it was like the medical thing.

05:57:17.620 And then it was, what was the, give me like the two other things I think you said.

05:57:21.220 I think that medically is really the biggest thing.

05:57:23.320 That's a big one.

05:57:23.860 Yeah.

05:57:24.060 All right.

05:57:25.300 I'm going to move on then.

05:57:26.380 Let's see.

05:57:27.040 We've got women have equal rights to men in the USA.

05:57:31.880 Allie, you disagreed.

05:57:34.300 Say it again.

05:57:35.020 I'm so sorry.

05:57:35.740 I was zoned out.

05:57:36.380 Women have equal rights to men in the USA.

05:57:39.500 You disagree with this statement?

05:57:41.300 Oh, no.

05:57:41.320 Then I just read it wrong.

05:57:42.280 Sorry.

05:57:42.640 Oh, my.

05:57:43.140 Come on.

05:57:43.620 You just don't want to argue about it.

05:57:44.900 No, legitimately.

05:57:45.600 I've argued plenty of things.

05:57:46.760 I think you understand that I can argue a point.

05:57:49.320 So you think then that women do have equal rights in the United States?

05:57:55.500 Yes.

05:57:56.280 Okay.

05:57:57.280 All right.

05:57:58.180 Jay, you disagreed though.

05:58:00.420 You think women do not have equal rights in the United States.

05:58:02.780 Why is that?

05:58:03.140 I think, as we saw in the reproductive rights, that's the biggest one.

05:58:09.240 That's the biggest one.

05:58:10.300 I mean, I'm lucky that living here in Los Angeles, it doesn't affect me too much.

05:58:14.880 But I grew up in a red state.

05:58:17.340 And I know how it is.

05:58:18.920 In certain places, it's a lot worse.

05:58:20.960 Yeah.

05:58:21.100 Anything else besides that?

05:58:23.220 Besides the abortion stuff?

05:58:24.940 I mean, that's the biggest one.

05:58:26.480 Well, what's the smaller one?

05:58:27.640 I'd say, I can't really, that's the main one that I'm aware of.

05:58:32.380 I can't really think of any more.

05:58:33.720 But I mean, main one would seem to imply that there are other ways in which women don't have equal rights to men in the USA.

05:58:39.880 Are there any more?

05:58:40.920 Or is that the only one?

05:58:42.700 That's the only one, I guess, I really think about.

05:58:45.600 Yeah.

05:58:46.120 Well, so the prompt is, women have equal rights to men in the United States.

05:58:49.920 Granted, or not, excuse me, misspoke.

05:58:52.880 Given that men don't have any reproductive rights, would it be safe to say that actually women have more rights when it comes to reproduction?

05:59:02.660 And in fact, moving closer to equality between men and women would seem to, it would either need for, well, it would dictate that men, that women, their right to an abortion is completely walked back entirely.

05:59:20.360 Would that?

05:59:20.540 I mean, men can't get pregnant, so it's irrelevant to them.

05:59:24.900 Right.

05:59:25.120 But like, so if we're, when we're talking about equal rights, that's a comparison of rights between men and women.

05:59:29.960 So men need to have a certain right that a woman does not.

05:59:34.360 Since men have no rights, like for example, a man can't compel a woman to get an abortion.

05:59:40.200 It would seem to me that equality would dictate that we completely and entirely walk back women's access to abortion in order to get equality.

05:59:50.540 I think I, yeah, I'm a, I'm a bit, I'm a bit.

05:59:56.540 So are all these questions that you typed on here, like all the ones you like.

06:00:01.780 What do you mean?

06:00:02.060 Like you agree to?

06:00:03.520 Or like.

06:00:03.880 What do you mean agree?

06:00:04.900 Like those questions?

06:00:06.480 Well, I mean, everything I just said now when it came to abortion, I'm not, that's not my position.

06:00:11.700 I think she's just asking if you wrote the questions, if you chose the questions.

06:00:14.120 Yeah, or is it based, like, yeah.

06:00:16.360 I wrote these.

06:00:17.560 And I do think that women have equal rights to men in the United States.

06:00:22.360 That's why I specifically didn't disagree with that because I don't think when it comes to abortion, it's a matter of equal rights.

06:00:28.940 Because it doesn't affect men at all.

06:00:32.120 So it's not, you can't really weigh it against anything.

06:00:34.440 So it's not really a matter of equal rights.

06:00:36.640 That's, that's kind of my perspective on it.

06:00:38.340 It's like, it's not really like an example of like some sort of inequality between men and women because it's like men can't get pregnant.

06:00:47.680 So it's like, it's.

06:00:49.880 There's nothing to compare it to for men.

06:00:52.060 Like.

06:00:52.160 Yeah.

06:00:53.800 So, yeah.

06:00:56.980 And let's see, moving on.

06:01:00.940 Adult age gap relationships.

06:01:02.640 A couple of you have serious issues with adult age gap relationships, it seems.

06:01:10.320 Or maybe not, actually.

06:01:11.920 Hold on.

06:01:12.680 I literally, like, I was iffy about that one.

06:01:15.320 I'm assuming.

06:01:16.060 Melina.

06:01:17.800 And Laura, you guys object to age gap relationships.

06:01:21.200 The example provided, a 30-year-old dating a 19-year-old.

06:01:24.560 Objections.

06:01:25.440 Object.

06:01:25.980 Object, Your Honor.

06:01:26.560 I mean, obviously, it's legal, but I think the maturity level is very different.

06:01:35.660 I can't think of any scenario where, like, a 19-year-old has the same maturity level and life experience as a 30-year-old.

06:01:46.180 Word.

06:01:46.800 That's.

06:01:47.780 Yeah.

06:01:48.420 What were you pointing at?

06:01:50.140 Wait, is Andrew, somebody told me to stream?

06:01:52.700 Oh, no.

06:01:53.120 Somebody said your stream was messed up, but I think it's fine.

06:01:55.200 Um, I'm sorry.

06:01:57.180 Uh, so, the, you're saying, like, the maturity levels or, like, the life experience, it's different?

06:02:02.680 Yeah.

06:02:03.120 Yeah.

06:02:03.660 Okay.

06:02:04.680 Uh, all right.

06:02:06.560 I said that only from a perspective of being, I've been there, and I would just give anyone the advice not to do that.

06:02:14.440 Yeah.

06:02:15.060 They're in two different life arenas.

06:02:17.020 A 19-year-old is not in the same arena in life as a 30-year-old man.

06:02:21.300 But, you know, you can't put that into perspective, because some people at young ages do have an older, like, more of a mature mindset.

06:02:28.380 So, which literally just states for them to like older people.

06:02:32.700 Sure.

06:02:32.760 Yeah, that makes sense.

06:02:33.620 I feel like I thought that was me.

06:02:35.240 You like older men, right?

06:02:36.420 Yeah, that I'm older.

06:02:36.800 Simply why?

06:02:37.500 Because they're mature.

06:02:38.580 Yeah.

06:02:38.840 And everything that goes into an older man is maturity.

06:02:42.920 Mm-hmm.

06:02:43.080 But is he really mature if he's getting with people that young?

06:02:45.820 Yes, but some people, some, you can't not blame it for some, but I have lots of, like, older men.

06:02:52.300 Some guys, like, younger, like, younger girls.

06:02:55.420 Some women like younger men.

06:02:57.260 It's just, it doesn't just justify it.

06:02:59.040 It's just as a man's perspective, and then, like, how people just can't be with someone older than them.

06:03:03.600 When there's scenarios when younger people like being with older people, and older people like being with younger people on both sides, men and women.

06:03:11.420 I agree with that.

06:03:12.360 I just think 19's too young.

06:03:13.920 Yeah, that's where I'm at, too.

06:03:16.540 If it was, like, 21, I wouldn't say much about it.

06:03:20.560 Even those years are a big difference.

06:03:21.680 Do you think we should, like, raise the voting age for women since they can't, like, consent to have sex with, like, men, you know?

06:03:28.440 Adult men?

06:03:29.740 No, I was, I, the first thing I said is that it's legal.

06:03:33.140 Oh, okay, sorry, I missed that part, then.

06:03:34.780 I just don't think it's, like, right.

06:03:37.720 Yeah, I think the maturity level is.

06:03:39.800 It's totally just a preference thing.

06:03:41.440 Sure, I mean, I would probably, it's weird, but people do it, and as long as no one's getting hurt, like, I just, it's not for me.

06:03:48.700 I wouldn't date a 30-year-old.

06:03:49.980 I feel like a majority of 19-year-olds wouldn't date a 30-year-old, but whatever, I don't care.

06:03:55.000 I'm 30 and I don't want to date a 50-year-old.

06:03:56.340 I would never date a 19-year-old.

06:03:57.780 I can't imagine.

06:03:58.460 I mean, you were in an age gap.

06:04:00.220 You were dating a younger guy.

06:04:01.520 He was 25, not 19.

06:04:03.080 Yeah, okay, it's not, that's not as much of a.

06:04:04.920 But younger than that would be pushing it for me, personally.

06:04:07.280 When I was 19, I was seeing, like, 45-year-olds.

06:04:10.380 And at the time, that was definitely my type.

06:04:12.220 I loved, like, delf-looking guys, you know, like, silver foxes and stuff like that.

06:04:16.020 But now that I'm, like, 26, I realized that, like, most of the time, that wasn't really,

06:04:22.140 like, personally, it just was, like, why, like, that's actually weird.

06:04:25.900 I think no matter the gender, I think it's weird of the older person.

06:04:29.800 Mm-hmm.

06:04:30.860 Like, even the whole Kardashians, they're all, like, 40-something, and now they're all dating,

06:04:35.060 like, 20-year-olds.

06:04:35.720 I know that's not that big of a difference, but it's, like, it's such an interesting concept.

06:04:39.820 But, like, for me, like, would I, if I was 19, would I go for an older man?

06:04:43.700 Probably.

06:04:44.440 I, like, I would probably, I would probably have done it simply just because older men

06:04:49.280 are attractive based on what they know.

06:04:51.160 Mm-hmm.

06:04:51.660 And their access to resources.

06:04:53.280 Yeah.

06:04:53.540 Like, honestly, I would do it.

06:04:55.540 There you go.

06:04:56.040 If I was 19.

06:04:56.900 But I guess I am seeing a 45-year-old right now.

06:04:59.320 When you were 19.

06:05:00.320 Huh?

06:05:00.840 What would be, like, the age limit of the guy when you were 19?

06:05:03.620 It depends if I was attractive to him.

06:05:04.880 I definitely would.

06:05:05.960 Like, if I was, like, damn.

06:05:08.060 If you found them attractive, what would the age limit?

06:05:10.820 But the attractiveness is what matters.

06:05:12.780 Do you think there's any age where it doesn't matter?

06:05:14.020 That's where it matters.

06:05:15.100 Yeah.

06:05:15.300 Yeah, I mean, like, there is definitely an age gap where it does get weird.

06:05:18.860 Like, maybe, like, 50, 60, 60.

06:05:21.500 Like, if you have wrinkles on you and you, like, you don't, like, you an old man.

06:05:25.860 My only option right now is a 50-year-old.

06:05:29.020 But he's got wrinkles.

06:05:30.700 And he's not attractive.

06:05:31.980 But he keeps on saying he's a millionaire.

06:05:34.040 And I'm, like, I don't want to, you know.

06:05:36.940 So, it's, like, why would I do that?

06:05:38.940 But then, again, I'm broke.

06:05:40.980 So, I got to think about it.

06:05:42.660 So, I got to think about it.

06:05:43.700 I'm 19 and I feel weird about talking about it.

06:05:46.160 I have to consider it.

06:05:48.060 Me with my 50-year-old right now.

06:05:49.700 But, yeah, no.

06:05:50.280 I honestly, yeah.

06:05:51.160 Like, I would say 60.

06:05:51.920 I get it.

06:05:51.960 I used to be broke.

06:05:53.100 He's worth it.

06:05:53.600 So, that's why.

06:05:55.120 I'm 19 and I feel weird about, like, 22.

06:05:58.460 Like, I mean, would I probably?

06:06:00.480 But, like, I feel weird talking.

06:06:01.420 What?

06:06:01.560 It's just weird.

06:06:02.420 It's, like, a life experience difference.

06:06:04.240 Like, it's just weird.

06:06:05.440 Yeah.

06:06:05.620 And I feel, like, at my age, like, it feels a lot bigger than it would if I was older.

06:06:10.620 I don't date younger than 25 at 22.

06:06:13.880 How about you, Andrew?

06:06:14.480 Yeah.

06:06:15.180 How do you feel about the topic?

06:06:17.020 Yeah.

06:06:17.540 Also, in your case, it's, like, you can't drink legally, too.

06:06:19.960 Exactly.

06:06:20.260 So, it's, like, it's weird.

06:06:21.980 Like, I'm not going to be going out.

06:06:23.460 That makes such a difference.

06:06:24.440 I had some technical difficulty on my end.

06:06:26.460 I just got it sorted out.

06:06:27.520 What were you guys talking about?

06:06:29.080 We're talking about the age gap from 19 to, was it 40?

06:06:32.640 30.

06:06:33.000 Like, 30.

06:06:33.840 How do you feel about that?

06:06:34.600 Yeah, I've never heard a compelling moral argument against it, ever.

06:06:37.780 Against it.

06:06:39.480 I think, I just don't care what other people do.

06:06:41.560 I think physical attraction matters.

06:06:42.560 Wait, Andrew, you're with it?

06:06:44.400 Yeah.

06:06:44.780 That's what I think.

06:06:45.940 I think if you're attracted to the 40 or the 50-year-old, then it wouldn't matter.

06:06:49.640 But if you're not attracted to them, then you get the pick.

06:06:51.680 Well, hang on.

06:06:51.960 What was the question that was asked?

06:06:53.580 I was, like, so you're with it?

06:06:55.320 Like, you, like, you think it's fine?

06:06:56.860 Or you're against it?

06:06:58.180 Yeah.

06:06:58.540 I've never heard a good compelling argument against it, ever.

06:07:01.400 Yeah.

06:07:01.700 I agree that it should be legal.

06:07:03.440 I think it's weird, though.

06:07:05.600 Mm-hmm.

06:07:06.160 Well, I get it.

06:07:07.680 So the number one argument from women...

06:07:09.620 I think it's weird that you date white men.

06:07:11.100 Yeah, the number one argument from women on this is that it gives them the ick.

06:07:14.520 It gives me ick.

06:07:15.420 For instance.

06:07:16.240 Ick.

06:07:16.880 It's icky.

06:07:17.480 But that's not an argument.

06:07:20.120 It's just an emotional state.

06:07:21.980 I think the ick is also biological.

06:07:24.700 Hang on.

06:07:25.340 Hang on.

06:07:25.900 Hang on.

06:07:26.220 Hang on.

06:07:26.240 We'll get to you in just a second, I promise.

06:07:29.480 But, yeah, I've never actually heard a good, compelling argument against an age gap relationship.

06:07:36.160 So here's a good example of this.

06:07:38.820 If there was some 21-year-old woman that she knew who was madly in love with a 41-year-old

06:07:43.940 man and told you he's the one, and I just adore him, and he treats me great, would any

06:07:49.440 of you say a damn word to her about that?

06:07:51.660 No.

06:07:53.080 Yeah.

06:07:53.900 And that's the...

06:07:54.940 I would have my opinions.

06:07:56.680 I wouldn't say it, though.

06:07:58.240 Exactly.

06:07:58.920 Because it's not my life.

06:08:00.020 What would you be your opinions?

06:08:01.460 Yeah, right.

06:08:02.080 So then the idea here is, like, it just gives you the ick, but you don't see any moral issue

06:08:07.060 with it, or you would say something about it.

06:08:08.720 Now, she was like...

06:08:09.420 The older person does it because they can't.

06:08:12.380 Sorry, I interrupted you.

06:08:13.800 And what if the ick is a biological response?

06:08:16.120 Because the person that is interested in me, he looks older, and I want to have kids.

06:08:22.720 So why would I have kids with someone that looks older?

06:08:26.100 I feel like they're not going to give me the best kids.

06:08:28.780 Honestly, you talk about this man quite a bit.

06:08:30.660 I think you should go for him.

06:08:33.020 Well, it's just a matter of interest.

06:08:36.560 So the interest in priorities.

06:08:39.300 So men tend to be mostly attracted to younger women, and this is in all age groups that we

06:08:45.540 see who are asked about this.

06:08:47.280 It's not that they're not attracted to women who are not younger than them, because they

06:08:53.200 are.

06:08:53.480 It's just that when universally asked what is the most attractive age group, it's usually

06:08:58.140 women who are in their 20s.

06:08:59.800 Yeah, and same goes for women.

06:09:01.440 That's why we would have the word cougar.

06:09:03.540 Come on out.

06:09:03.880 No, no.

06:09:04.820 Women tend to view attraction differently.

06:09:08.200 They tend to view it around about five years or so of their age, universally reported.

06:09:14.580 Whereas men, I'm just telling you what's reported.

06:09:17.100 You can disagree with it.

06:09:18.180 I'm just telling you what people said.

06:09:20.640 So, but yeah, universally, they think attractive women, they're almost all universally attracted

06:09:29.420 to women in their 20s.

06:09:30.280 This makes sense, though, because if you think about it from a biological basis, it's mostly

06:09:35.740 women in their 20s who can have children, right?

06:09:38.560 They have the highest fertility rate.

06:09:41.080 So if that's the case, if the idea of evolution is true and reproduction is the primary edict,

06:09:47.040 then of course the attraction for men is going to be younger women, right?

06:09:50.140 Because they can reproduce.

06:09:51.420 That makes sense.

06:09:53.420 Women, though, they don't prioritize the same thing.

06:09:55.700 They often prioritize resources over looks.

06:09:59.140 This is why you see tons and tons of really, really ugly dudes with really, really hot chicks,

06:10:05.220 and the kind of presupposition is, well, that dude's obviously rich, and most of the time,

06:10:11.360 you're right, he is rich, and that's why they're with him.

06:10:14.840 So if a woman is in her 30s, do you think she should just be with someone that wants to be with her,

06:10:22.020 even if she's not attracted to them?

06:10:23.800 What does this have to do with age?

06:10:24.880 I'm sorry, this has nothing to do with age gap.

06:10:26.500 But unless you can refine your question to relate it to the topic.

06:10:30.060 Well, there is an age gap within the dynamic.

06:10:33.160 What?

06:10:35.460 Forget about it.

06:10:36.400 It's okay.

06:10:37.380 No, no, no.

06:10:37.800 I want to hear the question.

06:10:38.800 I don't need advice.

06:10:39.220 It's all good.

06:10:40.020 I would never date a guy I'm not attracted to.

06:10:42.180 I can't.

06:10:43.220 Yeah.

06:10:43.580 I can't.

06:10:45.220 And I'm in my 30s.

06:10:46.100 I can't.

06:10:47.700 It's the idea of what's...

06:10:48.880 It has to do with the age gap.

06:10:50.880 So, okay, repeat your question.

06:10:51.980 So women can find things and find qualities in men which are attractive, which are external looks.

06:10:58.180 So let's say the guy's like a five or four, right?

06:11:01.720 And he's old like me or something like this.

06:11:04.860 Maybe you can compensate for the fact that he's kind of ugly with the fact that he's also really rich, right?

06:11:10.120 You can compensate for these facts, you know, depending on the type of woman.

06:11:17.040 It depends on what they're looking at for attraction.

06:11:20.260 Whereas men, it's basically just one thing.

06:11:22.400 If you're physically hot, they really just don't give a shit about much else.

06:11:25.800 It's pretty simple, right?

06:11:28.400 Men are very easy in that regard.

06:11:31.100 They'll really put up with an awful lot of horrible shit from women just because they're hot.

06:11:36.480 Like, that's just the truth.

06:11:37.600 That's very true.

06:11:38.220 Does that answer your question?

06:11:41.280 What he said in the first half answered my question, yes.

06:11:44.400 Okay.

06:11:45.500 All right.

06:11:45.980 I'm going to move on then.

06:11:47.900 Allie's in the bathroom, but I'll get the – let's see.

06:11:49.920 So, Rachel, the statement is,

06:11:53.140 it is acceptable for high body count men to prefer to date low body count or virgin women.

06:12:00.020 You disagreed.

06:12:02.280 And then we had –

06:12:04.920 Where did the wheelchair ladies go?

06:12:08.220 Well, there's one left, and then she's in the bathroom.

06:12:11.760 Oh, wait.

06:12:12.080 You're in a wheelchair, too?

06:12:13.160 Yeah.

06:12:14.180 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

06:12:14.920 I forgot.

06:12:15.400 I'm sorry.

06:12:15.820 I'm sorry.

06:12:16.040 I'm sorry about that.

06:12:16.840 Jay, you also disagree with that.

06:12:19.940 And then, Laura, you also disagree with that.

06:12:22.980 So, for those of you who are here at the table, Rachel and Jay and Laura.

06:12:31.700 I don't think for me it necessarily even has to do with it being body count.

06:12:35.780 I think it's the double standard that's unacceptable.

06:12:38.420 Like, a man who has a super high body count wanting a low body count woman.

06:12:42.840 I also think it would be wrong if it was a high body count woman wanting a low body count man.

06:12:47.420 So, I think that's my issue.

06:12:49.420 I'm going to – I'll respond first before I let these other – give their take.

06:12:53.680 Don't you have a double standard of your own?

06:12:55.640 I'm sure somewhere I do.

06:12:57.180 What do you mean?

06:12:57.600 You've already disclosed it on the show.

06:12:59.300 You're in a wheelchair.

06:13:00.220 You would not date somebody who's in a wheelchair.

06:13:01.720 Is this not a double standard?

06:13:02.800 I think it has to do more with, like, practicality.

06:13:07.680 There's nothing practical about body counts.

06:13:09.820 There's plenty practical about not wanting to – despite your own high body count, not wanting to date a woman who has a high body count.

06:13:19.720 What?

06:13:22.420 What?

06:13:23.160 Well, for example – I mean, I don't know if this would be considered practical, but, like, the more sexual partners you've had, the greater risk you have an STD.

06:13:30.400 So, I think it's pretty practical to not want to date a woman who has herpes, for example.

06:13:34.480 Like, that's pretty practical.

06:13:36.100 What about the guy?

06:13:37.120 Like, he also has a high body count.

06:13:39.240 Yeah.

06:13:39.940 Well, let's assume he has a high body count, but he didn't.

06:13:42.680 He rolled the dice with his dick, but he was lucky, didn't get herpes.

06:13:46.680 I feel like a low body count woman could also have herpes.

06:13:49.080 Sure, but do you think it's more likely for a high body count woman to have an STD?

06:13:53.320 Sure.

06:13:54.000 All right.

06:13:54.300 I mean, it's just – this is based in fact and science.

06:13:57.680 Yeah.

06:13:57.800 The more sexual partners you have – it doesn't –

06:13:59.460 Look, you could sleep with 100 people and not get anything, but, like, the chance is way higher, way higher.

06:14:05.620 Well, let's look at the –

06:14:06.640 Ew, so he's just going to invade the client.

06:14:07.860 Like, just a really basic factor here, which is the revolting factor.

06:14:12.400 So, the idea that a person is revolted or has revulsion towards another person, they're not going to be with them, right?

06:14:19.460 Like, we'll stop the show for you.

06:14:27.560 Wait, did something –

06:14:28.760 No, she said that – Luna said that the STDs are just going to invade the planet.

06:14:34.320 Like, yeah, he's all dirty and he just wants to invade her cleanliness?

06:14:37.280 That's gross.

06:14:39.260 Like, if a guy has, like, a high body count and you just want, like –

06:14:42.420 But what if you have something and you're trying to –

06:14:44.260 Yeah, but it's illegal.

06:14:45.200 If they get you something and they know they had it, it's illegal.

06:14:48.380 No, that's not illegal.

06:14:49.360 Yeah, you can sue them.

06:14:51.160 Yeah, you can.

06:14:52.080 You usually lose, right?

06:14:53.540 And not if they know about it and they didn't mention it to you?

06:14:56.020 The burden of proof is on you, right, to demonstrate it was never mentioned.

06:15:00.160 So, it's very difficult to prove something like that, which would be a good practical reason not to be with somebody who had a high body count, I suppose, which would make kind of the point both ways.

06:15:10.440 But diving into this, I'm just looking at it from the idea of being revolted or not revolted.

06:15:16.060 I don't think that you can help who you're revolted by or activities you're revolted by, right?

06:15:21.440 You just can't really help it.

06:15:22.800 So, if you were a person who yourself had a proclivity towards having sex with a lot of people, you could still have the preference of wanting to be with a person who didn't because you found it revolting.

06:15:34.400 I don't know why that would necessarily be problematic.

06:15:37.880 Would that be considered a fetish or –

06:15:40.640 No, not a fetish.

06:15:42.920 You could have reasons outside of a fetish for wanting that.

06:15:46.600 One is just – you just find people more attractive than with less people.

06:15:51.460 You're just less revolted by it.

06:15:54.420 Well, okay.

06:15:55.740 Well, yeah.

06:15:56.120 I was going to say that fetish.

06:15:57.520 Yeah, so –

06:15:57.900 From my experience –

06:15:58.460 Hold on, hold on.

06:15:58.960 Sorry.

06:15:59.640 Okay, let's hear it.

06:16:00.840 From my experience, guys don't like it when you don't have experience.

06:16:05.080 Like –

06:16:05.360 Wait, what?

06:16:05.820 Oh, really?

06:16:06.240 Hold on, what?

06:16:07.100 Yeah.

06:16:07.400 Hold on, no, no, no, no.

06:16:08.260 What?

06:16:08.800 You don't know how to suck a dick?

06:16:10.820 You don't know how to give a hand job?

06:16:12.540 What?

06:16:13.520 Hold on.

06:16:14.000 Yeah.

06:16:14.520 Wait, but you just said from your experience, how much experience do you have as a phone

06:16:18.600 cell?

06:16:18.920 Not a lot.

06:16:19.800 Not a lot.

06:16:20.840 So, of the experiences you do have, the men were like, you suck at –

06:16:25.480 No, no, no.

06:16:26.100 They were – I text, you know, on Hinge or on Bumble, and they're like, well, like,

06:16:32.760 on the second date, would you at least give me a blowjob?

06:16:35.380 And I'm just like, I don't know, like, maybe, but I don't know if I'm good at giving blowjobs.

06:16:41.160 And they're like, how do you not know if you're good at sucking dick?

06:16:44.080 And I'm just like, well, I don't know.

06:16:45.720 I don't know.

06:16:46.560 Um, okay.

06:16:48.120 Yeah.

06:16:48.540 Your own personal –

06:16:49.260 Sorry, I apologize if I was too explicit, Brian.

06:16:51.800 But I'm just telling you –

06:16:53.160 Well, that's not the issue.

06:16:53.320 I can show you the text message.

06:16:54.420 That's not the issue.

06:16:55.560 She wants to show you, right?

06:16:57.060 If you had –

06:16:57.940 If you had a guy that you were with –

06:17:00.800 Autistic women give the best blowjobs.

06:17:02.920 I mean, this is obviously the case.

06:17:06.180 That's a compliment.

06:17:07.440 What the fuck?

06:17:08.940 All right.

06:17:09.760 So, okay.

06:17:10.840 Going back to you.

06:17:11.960 Uh, you mentioned the double –

06:17:14.700 What is it?

06:17:16.100 Did I say something?

06:17:17.420 You know you said something.

06:17:18.820 What did I say?

06:17:19.740 That was just so weird and out of pocket to say.

06:17:22.840 I gave –

06:17:23.300 It was just the whole –

06:17:24.060 It was the back and forth.

06:17:25.220 Did something happen to you all week?

06:17:26.300 I was not ready.

06:17:26.900 No, like, you know how, like, with autism, right?

06:17:29.260 There's Asperger's –

06:17:30.240 Am I sense in question?

06:17:30.260 Hyper-focused.

06:17:31.220 That's what you're saying.

06:17:31.940 Yeah, like, with Asperger's –

06:17:33.960 And they hyper-focus in on, like –

06:17:36.700 And they become really good at, like, painting.

06:17:39.080 Or, like, if they're an athlete, they're really good at being that.

06:17:42.040 And there's, like, autistic Asperger women.

06:17:44.460 You're a good person, Ryan.

06:17:44.920 There's Asperger women who hyper-focus in on just sucking dick.

06:17:50.400 And let me tell you one thing.

06:17:52.440 No, just kidding.

06:17:53.040 You know?

06:17:53.420 That's good.

06:17:53.820 You know?

06:17:54.380 That's good.

06:17:54.600 I've fucked an autistic woman before.

06:17:56.400 That's good.

06:17:57.160 But a lot of men won't.

06:17:58.160 I've had sexual intercourse with enough people.

06:17:59.700 A lot of men refuse to have sex –

06:18:02.440 She actually grabbed the mic.

06:18:03.120 Yeah, you know she's a good mic.

06:18:04.220 Come on now.

06:18:05.020 A lot of men refuse to have sex with –

06:18:07.360 With what?

06:18:08.900 With you?

06:18:10.020 With – yes, because they say, oh, I don't want to take advantage of you.

06:18:13.680 Oh, sorry.

06:18:14.200 I think because you're autistic.

06:18:15.520 Yeah.

06:18:15.960 I don't want to take advantage of you.

06:18:17.560 And I'm like, no, you're not taking advantage of me.

06:18:19.840 And they're like –

06:18:20.340 No, but you're doing them a favor.

06:18:22.160 Just kidding.

06:18:22.720 I'm kidding.

06:18:22.980 That's a joke.

06:18:23.700 It's like charity.

06:18:24.560 I went on a date with a guy.

06:18:26.020 He literally was like, so you're a little slow?

06:18:28.420 And I'm like, yes, I'm a little slow.

06:18:29.560 I'm not ashamed of it.

06:18:30.680 And he's like, oh, I don't want to take advantage of you.

06:18:33.600 I like slow.

06:18:34.520 Like, men truly think –

06:18:36.340 There's something hot about a slow –

06:18:38.340 How they can't run away.

06:18:39.680 Oh, Andrew, what the hell?

06:18:41.080 Is his internet all fucked?

06:18:42.840 Okay.

06:18:43.700 We're getting him back.

06:18:44.780 I think his internet –

06:18:45.400 Everything goes over him.

06:18:46.340 Okay.

06:18:46.460 There's something like –

06:18:47.380 I think there's kind of like –

06:18:48.700 As long as it's legal, you know?

06:18:51.220 Obviously.

06:18:51.660 Because there's a threshold where it's like if they're –

06:18:54.420 It's like wrong.

06:18:55.440 It's wrong.

06:18:56.220 Not someone that has Down syndrome, obviously.

06:18:59.640 Or someone that's low-functioning.

06:19:00.860 I feel like you're in a relationship.

06:19:02.780 You said that they do it the best, though.

06:19:04.700 So that was your best experience?

06:19:06.660 Are we still –

06:19:07.560 Yeah.

06:19:07.840 Are we still here?

06:19:08.420 No, we got you, Andrew.

06:19:09.640 We got you.

06:19:10.240 Yeah, but I'm just saying like part of my experience –

06:19:12.100 I think he froze again.

06:19:13.440 Shit.

06:19:14.220 Okay.

06:19:14.840 Okay.

06:19:15.500 Should I continue?

06:19:17.940 Yes.

06:19:18.600 Okay, part of my experience –

06:19:19.960 Part of my lived experience –

06:19:21.520 Tell me.

06:19:22.020 Especially with –

06:19:23.740 If I do find a black man that's high-functioning autistic, he's like high-masking.

06:19:30.020 I went on two dates with dudes that were like that.

06:19:32.760 They're like high-masking.

06:19:34.440 And so they're like, well, how do I know that you're not going to put my nudes online?

06:19:40.360 And I'm like, well, if you want me to send you a picture of me naked, I need you to send me a picture of you naked.

06:19:45.940 What?

06:19:46.260 You know, like I'm not – like the struggle is real, you know?

06:19:51.000 The struggle is real.

06:19:51.780 You are so right.

06:19:52.760 Fem cells do exist.

06:19:54.320 Fem cells rise up.

06:19:54.880 Because there is a lot of women that have trouble finding a man they're attracted to to have sex with.

06:20:02.300 Go off, queen.

06:20:02.440 Go off, queen.

06:20:03.260 Like these women, they don't want to have sex with men that they're not attracted to.

06:20:07.440 Sorry.

06:20:07.760 Because that gives them – like bad sex is a form of trauma.

06:20:11.540 Yeah.

06:20:11.700 And they watch TikToks.

06:20:13.020 I've been traumatized so many times.

06:20:15.660 And they don't want to do it.

06:20:18.300 I've been traumatized.

06:20:20.080 Socially awkward women exist.

06:20:21.800 Wait, can you tilt your mic down just a little bit?

06:20:24.560 Socially awkward women exist.

06:20:26.560 Yes.

06:20:27.180 And they're in all different types of races.

06:20:30.000 Yes.

06:20:30.500 And it's very hard – I'm sorry.

06:20:32.240 I'm a little tipsy.

06:20:33.160 It's very hard sometimes.

06:20:33.840 Yeah, you've been cracking open those fucking –

06:20:36.040 She's been cracking that shit open.

06:20:38.580 She will be on a plane turn.

06:20:39.560 I know.

06:20:39.960 I have to go on the plane at like 5 o'clock this morning.

06:20:42.480 I just came from the plane over here.

06:20:44.580 So you're saying that you think that men would prefer that their women have fucked a bunch of other men before them?

06:20:50.620 Well, when I'm texting with them – like it's –

06:20:53.680 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

06:20:55.240 Without the long, elongated anecdote.

06:20:57.880 Thank you.

06:20:58.360 Thank you.

06:20:58.640 Just a simple answer to the question.

06:21:00.940 Do you think that a man would prefer that his woman had sucked 10 dicks before his dick?

06:21:05.920 A man that's looking for a long-term relationship?

06:21:08.800 No, he would not prefer that.

06:21:10.420 But some men are looking for short-term and they lie and they say that they are looking for long-term.

06:21:14.940 So are we blasting out body counts or what?

06:21:17.620 Yeah, we'll –

06:21:18.200 You go first.

06:21:18.900 No, you go first.

06:21:20.320 You go first.

06:21:21.920 Wait, so hold on.

06:21:22.900 I don't even –

06:21:25.900 Traumatized.

06:21:28.060 So many times.

06:21:29.820 Okay, that was a lot.

06:21:31.220 That was a lot.

06:21:32.000 But thank you, Cassie.

06:21:33.160 I appreciate it.

06:21:34.380 You're welcome.

06:21:34.720 I appreciate –

06:21:36.400 The honesty.

06:21:37.660 Your honesty and your openness talking about your life experiences.

06:21:44.000 Yes.

06:21:44.900 Yes.

06:21:45.240 And –

06:21:45.960 But we were –

06:21:47.520 Were we on age count?

06:21:48.640 No, we were talking about –

06:21:49.340 Oh, high body count.

06:21:50.160 Yeah.

06:21:50.580 Okay.

06:21:50.880 Yeah.

06:21:51.220 I don't think –

06:21:52.080 Honestly, even for a one-night stand, I think the dude picks the virgin, assuming she's

06:21:58.460 down to have the one-night stand, picks the virgin over the girl with the 100 bodies.

06:22:02.660 Even for the one-night stand.

06:22:04.180 Hmm.

06:22:05.220 I'm taking the virgin for the –

06:22:07.660 Okay.

06:22:08.580 For the –

06:22:08.860 Yep.

06:22:09.440 Okay, good talk to Cassie.

06:22:10.580 I'm glad we had that back and forth there.

06:22:12.340 That was good.

06:22:12.840 That was good.

06:22:13.660 You're the homie, Cassie.

06:22:14.820 What's up?

06:22:15.240 By the way, you said you only date black guys or like –

06:22:17.980 I only date black guys.

06:22:19.080 Do you date African –

06:22:20.580 No, he wants to know.

06:22:21.320 Wait, what?

06:22:21.780 I know you want to know.

06:22:23.160 I know you want to know.

06:22:23.900 Yeah.

06:22:24.480 Do you date –

06:22:24.920 These socially awkward white dudes, they're like, oh, I've never been with a black girl

06:22:28.700 and I'm just like, okay, let's be friends.

06:22:31.260 What the fuck?

06:22:32.620 Wait, Cassie, question though.

06:22:34.320 Yeah.

06:22:34.780 Is it just black dudes or is it also African Americans?

06:22:38.300 I –

06:22:38.620 So, I like Nigerians.

06:22:40.480 I like people from Trinidad and Jamaica and Barbados.

06:22:43.580 I do have a preference for black people that are not American.

06:22:48.320 So, this is like African Americans.

06:22:50.080 African Americans is like the fourth on the list.

06:22:52.960 Fourth.

06:22:53.360 Okay.

06:22:53.840 Because like I'm technically African American.

06:22:56.700 Bro.

06:22:57.320 I'm crying.

06:22:58.320 I'm crying.

06:22:58.920 I'm dead.

06:22:59.740 I'm dead.

06:23:01.060 He's like, matter of fact.

06:23:02.540 Matter of fact.

06:23:03.460 I am Nigerian.

06:23:04.660 Cassie, check this shit.

06:23:05.220 You're playing the Elon Musk card right now.

06:23:07.240 He's like, I'm African American.

06:23:08.760 That's exactly it because – so, my dad was born in North Africa and my mom was born

06:23:13.280 in America.

06:23:13.840 Technically, I'm African American.

06:23:15.160 I'm not – like I'm friends with a bunch of white dudes.

06:23:18.220 Oh, you only date black dudes.

06:23:19.760 Yeah.

06:23:19.980 I thought you date like African Americans.

06:23:21.860 I like – I like black – like I like – so, there's a difference.

06:23:25.800 I'm white.

06:23:26.480 Yeah.

06:23:27.060 But I'm African American.

06:23:27.880 Oh, sweet.

06:23:29.200 Oh, my God.

06:23:29.760 We all came from somewhere.

06:23:31.240 No.

06:23:31.700 No.

06:23:32.080 We all came from somewhere.

06:23:33.600 She's my Caucasian right there.

06:23:35.040 That's my Caucasian.

06:23:35.880 Wait, hold on.

06:23:37.140 I'm friends with like all these like –

06:23:38.620 You're part white.

06:23:39.100 She said no.

06:23:39.800 I don't claim that part of me.

06:23:40.840 You don't claim that – what the fuck?

06:23:42.080 All right.

06:23:43.140 Yeah.

06:23:43.580 I like being friends with white dudes.

06:23:44.620 My brother from another mother.

06:23:45.880 Are you – are you – can you be my Caucasian – are you just like – or do you Latina?

06:23:48.540 Are you Latina?

06:23:49.240 She's white.

06:23:49.760 I'm Latina.

06:23:50.940 Oh.

06:23:51.200 No.

06:23:51.880 Liar.

06:23:52.580 I am.

06:23:53.200 You know that.

06:23:53.820 I'm Hispanic.

06:23:54.600 I'm 100% white.

06:23:55.900 I'm not mixed with anything.

06:23:56.980 That's the same percent that you – are you my Caucasian?

06:23:59.060 Yeah, I'm 100% white.

06:24:01.020 One mic at a time.

06:24:02.060 Okay.

06:24:02.300 So really quick though, you mentioned the double standard.

06:24:05.240 Yeah.

06:24:05.880 I mean –

06:24:06.760 I'm sure at some point it just cracks out to preference and you know, it's a preference

06:24:11.340 that's kind of –

06:24:12.680 But it's like I guess my thinking on this whole thing when it comes to double standards

06:24:16.360 is it like so in order for you to want to be with someone, you need to be exactly the

06:24:25.080 same.

06:24:25.500 Otherwise, it's like – oh, okay.

06:24:28.100 It's unfair or it's a double standard?

06:24:29.680 I don't think it's unfair.

06:24:31.200 It's just that they are not ignoring their own body count but it's a man with a high

06:24:36.640 body count that wants a woman with a lower body count specifically.

06:24:40.340 But it's like are things you desire in a partner – like do you need to possess the

06:24:44.900 trait that you desire in a partner?

06:24:48.260 No.

06:24:48.700 I don't think so.

06:24:49.180 Yeah.

06:24:49.420 So I don't think it's wrong.

06:24:50.240 Like in this specific example, a man with a high body count, I think it's a fair proposition

06:24:54.720 that it's totally fine for him to prefer to date low body count women or virgins.

06:25:01.920 For example, I mean there's plenty of – when it comes to I guess things that – I don't

06:25:06.200 think women really care that much about body count but like things that women want in men

06:25:12.060 that they don't possess, like there's plenty of like broke women who would date a rich man.

06:25:17.720 I don't think that's like a double standard or hypocritical.

06:25:20.940 What about like if we're looking at status?

06:25:22.780 So like I'm sure like a woman who's like never been to the gym once, she would love

06:25:28.240 to date a professional athlete.

06:25:29.660 I don't think that that makes her a hypocrite.

06:25:32.000 I just think that there are things, traits in men – well, I suppose there are things

06:25:38.340 that just blanketly make you attractive as a person and like all people, regardless

06:25:43.220 of if they possess that same trait, they're going to be like, okay, well this is – I'm

06:25:46.900 attracted to this.

06:25:48.960 How about like a – I don't know, a nobody chick who has no status who's attracted

06:25:54.200 to like a famous person.

06:25:56.620 People also get confused on what a hypocrite is.

06:25:58.780 It's not a matter of – I listen to – or if you were to say, you know, something

06:26:05.560 like, you know, I listen to rock music, right?

06:26:13.060 But you can't listen to rock music even though I do.

06:26:17.520 That would be a form of hypocrisy.

06:26:20.780 Yeah, I don't think it's this hypocritical.

06:26:23.140 Hang on, hang on, I'm almost done.

06:26:23.940 Just real quick, I just want to clarify this so that you know.

06:26:25.900 The idea of hypocrisy is to be doing something which you yourself would advocate against.

06:26:33.740 That would be what a hypocrite would be.

06:26:35.960 So you're not advocating that it's not okay for somebody with a high body count to date

06:26:40.840 somebody with a low body count, right?

06:26:43.260 So that wouldn't be a – that wouldn't be hypocrisy.

06:26:46.340 And then Jay, you had thoughts on this one and any thoughts on the whole –

06:26:51.620 On the same one about body counts?

06:26:53.480 Awesome.

06:26:54.480 Acceptable for a high body count man to prefer to date a low body count woman?

06:26:57.780 I mean, yeah, I think it's hypocritical.

06:27:00.260 As long as the person's clean, I think, too, they should definitely get an STD test.

06:27:04.800 But, like, as long as they're clean, and especially if they've never cheated on any of their exes,

06:27:09.420 like – because you don't know people's stories, you know, maybe someone's in their 30s,

06:27:14.440 but maybe they had a hoe phase when they were in college.

06:27:17.480 So it's like maybe they have a high body count, but it's all from, like, 10 years ago.

06:27:21.960 Yeah, that's –

06:27:22.440 How do I –

06:27:22.860 Yeah, but it's not recent.

06:27:25.340 I just got done explaining what hypocrisy means.

06:27:26.260 I don't think she was listening.

06:27:27.160 Were you listening?

06:27:28.160 Were you listening?

06:27:28.480 I literally just got done explaining what hypocrisy means.

06:27:31.000 It can't be hypocrisy.

06:27:32.660 It's not possible.

06:27:33.500 No, I was listening, but I'm just saying that's why –

06:27:37.440 She still disagrees.

06:27:38.300 No, it's okay.

06:27:38.700 I'm saying that's why I circled it because –

06:27:40.580 Yeah, yeah.

06:27:41.140 No, that's fair.

06:27:41.520 Yeah.

06:27:41.900 She was explaining why she circled it.

06:27:43.500 Yeah.

06:27:43.820 That's fair.

06:27:44.240 That's why I circled it.

06:27:45.800 I see.

06:27:46.420 Yeah, and I think, too, you just got to go with, like, what –

06:27:49.100 it's going to, like, a case-by-case basis because, like I was saying, you know,

06:27:51.820 maybe someone had a hoe phase in college, but now, 10 years later,

06:27:55.220 they've barely been with anyone in the last few years.

06:27:58.520 Sure.

06:27:58.760 Yeah, moving on.

06:27:59.620 That's valid.

06:28:00.060 Moving on topics.

06:28:00.880 Like, people can change.

06:28:02.480 Nikki.

06:28:03.500 So, here's the prompt.

06:28:05.720 Here's the prompt.

06:28:06.620 A woman's career money status or status does not make her more attractive to men.

06:28:12.900 Nikki, you disagreed.

06:28:15.280 Let's see.

06:28:16.020 There were a couple other disagrees on that.

06:28:17.560 It was Milena, you disagree.

06:28:20.040 Jay, you disagree.

06:28:21.820 Laura, you disagree.

06:28:24.340 Nikki, starting with you, why do you disagree with that?

06:28:30.200 It was – wait.

06:28:32.780 It's okay.

06:28:33.020 Yeah, can you read it like that?

06:28:34.060 So, okay.

06:28:34.460 For example, like, I would say – and this is related to the prompt – most men, like,

06:28:38.960 if you're a really high-earning woman, he's not going to be, like, more attracted to you.

06:28:44.880 I feel like certain ones are, though, because I've met plenty of guys in the club who they

06:28:48.520 all like that we have our money up and they tell me that they don't want to be with their

06:28:52.660 girls because their girls are, like, don't – you know, don't get to the bag the same

06:28:56.600 way, which is, like, not their fault.

06:28:57.840 So, I acknowledge that men will even say this, and I also think it would be, like, really

06:29:01.960 suboptimal as a guy to, like, if you're on a date with a girl and she's kind of career-oriented

06:29:06.140 and she's, like, successful, I think it would be a really bad move if you're trying to, like,

06:29:10.760 either sleep with her or even date her to say, like, oh, yeah, fuck your career.

06:29:15.200 Like, because I'm sure you guys are all going to agree with the following statement.

06:29:19.200 Will men lie to get you into bed?

06:29:20.760 They lie all the time.

06:29:22.660 Oh, yeah.

06:29:23.520 I'm more interested in looking at, like, not so much – this is almost, I guess, a criticism

06:29:28.380 of men – not really interested in looking so much at what men say.

06:29:33.240 This also applies to women.

06:29:35.360 But what they do – so, like, for example, like, the guy who says, oh, yeah, I'd do that.

06:29:40.360 And I've had, like – I remember I had a male friend who – he was, like – he was a software

06:29:46.380 engineer and he's, like, oh, because I make this much money, I really want to date a girl

06:29:50.460 who's kind of on my level.

06:29:51.680 But being a software engineer that, like, removed a lot of women from his dating pool

06:29:56.240 and then, like, he ended up dating, like, some dance instructor who's making, like, 40k

06:30:00.900 a year.

06:30:01.620 And so, it's, like, men say one thing.

06:30:03.720 They'll say it.

06:30:04.640 And some men will say it either because they think it's, like, the politically correct thing

06:30:09.120 to say and they don't want to come off as offensive or you're a career woman and he's

06:30:14.960 either trying to flatter you – well, he's trying to flatter you and he's trying to

06:30:19.400 sleep with you.

06:30:20.060 And saying, like, oh, your career, fuck that, don't care at all, probably not going to be

06:30:26.040 very, like, conducive to getting you into bed or into a relationship.

06:30:30.200 As a therapist in training, what I will say is that women fall in love with their ears

06:30:36.140 and men fall in love with their eyes.

06:30:38.220 Yes.

06:30:38.860 Yes.

06:30:39.080 Good point, Cassie.

06:30:40.200 Like, a man – and I've had men tell me this out of confidence, whatever – they

06:30:45.460 will say, I will tell a woman whatever I need to in order to fuck.

06:30:52.740 And that's what they do because they want to fuck.

06:30:56.760 And if a woman sees a man's actions is not aligning with what he says, then she shouldn't

06:31:02.220 give him sex.

06:31:03.180 But because she gives him sex, because he's saying what she wants to hear, because she

06:31:08.780 told him what she wanted out of the relationship, then when he gets access to sex, then he's

06:31:14.980 like, okay, this is great.

06:31:16.740 And after a few times, then he moves on to the next one after it gets boring because he

06:31:20.660 doesn't really know you as you.

06:31:23.540 He knows you as beautiful – what are you, Thai?

06:31:26.900 Cambodian.

06:31:27.340 Beautiful type – Cambodian woman, you know?

06:31:31.080 So, like, after that, after he gets bored, he moves on to the next one.

06:31:34.740 And it's not his fault.

06:31:35.920 It's because he feels like he has to tell you what you want to hear in order to get access

06:31:40.760 to your vagina, you know?

06:31:43.560 And, like –

06:31:43.900 The vaginal canal.

06:31:45.400 Yeah, yeah.

06:31:46.240 The vagina hole.

06:31:48.500 Straight to the cabinet, if you will.

06:31:50.780 I guess –

06:31:51.260 Cabinet.

06:31:52.420 Just – I'm going to try to blast through these as quick as possible.

06:31:57.340 So, yeah, a woman's career, I think typically, like, for example, a man who's an attorney,

06:32:03.900 he's probably, like – could be a very high earner.

06:32:06.780 He's probably going to be like, yeah, I'll date a girl who works at Starbucks.

06:32:09.540 If she's hot, I'll date a girl who works at Starbucks.

06:32:11.880 If she's hot, I'll date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A.

06:32:15.700 I tend to agree with this.

06:32:17.860 I'm doing decently myself.

06:32:20.120 Don't really care at all about – in fact, the more money I started to earn, the less I

06:32:24.260 even care.

06:32:24.680 Like, I could see, like, a guy looking at it pragmatically if he's, like – I don't

06:32:30.080 know.

06:32:30.340 He's not – he could be thinking, like, okay, well, I want to have a family, and I know

06:32:35.420 I'm not going to be able to support this family just off of my income.

06:32:38.920 So, he, like – it could become, like, part of the equation, but it's still going to be,

06:32:43.900 like, really low on the totem pole.

06:32:45.380 I don't think, like, he's going to ultimately – if some, like, really hot chick who's maybe

06:32:49.760 not in debt, but, like, works a, I don't know, minimum wage job, barista, she's probably

06:32:54.800 going to be able – that more attractive Chick-fil-A worker is going to be able to

06:33:00.120 out-compete his potential other partners who are higher earners.

06:33:04.900 Like, so – for shizzle.

06:33:08.360 I was just thinking, like –

06:33:09.220 I don't know if she said that.

06:33:09.900 She liked it, though, whatever.

06:33:11.160 I just feel like that status stuff –

06:33:12.760 Chill, bro, chill, D'Arcadia.

06:33:14.880 I was waiting for a comment to come out of your mouth.

06:33:16.540 Relax.

06:33:16.780 I was waiting for it.

06:33:17.400 Chill, chill, chill, chill.

06:33:18.000 I feel like the status does matter because, like, the guy's not going to want to be with

06:33:21.400 a girl who's a bum, who doesn't have a job and all that.

06:33:23.580 He doesn't care.

06:33:24.620 He doesn't care.

06:33:25.660 Well, maybe you don't, but I know a lot of guys, like, the guys that come into the club,

06:33:28.400 they literally tell me they don't want to be with, like, a girl who has no money.

06:33:31.740 They will tell you whatever they need to tell you.

06:33:33.900 They're trying to book.

06:33:34.520 That's the club.

06:33:34.820 Well, yeah, true, but even outside, like –

06:33:36.700 They're trying to get some Cambodian coochie, bro.

06:33:37.760 I feel like every guy I know just says what you want to hear because that's how it is

06:33:41.540 for me.

06:33:41.860 Like, so many guys tell me that they're not going to want, like, a girl who's homeless

06:33:44.940 and doesn't have any money.

06:33:45.840 Like, they want a girl who's got her money.

06:33:47.000 Well, yeah, I don't want a homeless woman.

06:33:47.700 Yeah, but also, would you also agree that, like, more – like, independent women are

06:33:55.220 more attractive?

06:33:56.000 Yes.

06:33:56.860 Yes.

06:33:57.280 That's what I feel like.

06:33:58.260 Independent women.

06:33:58.900 Like, women that make money.

06:34:00.360 Yeah, like, are more attractive?

06:34:01.680 Yeah.

06:34:01.940 Independent women are more attractive if they're attractive.

06:34:05.280 That's how dudes see it.

06:34:06.740 Wait.

06:34:07.180 Wait.

06:34:07.320 I mean, I don't want her life to be a total shitshow mess.

06:34:10.900 Yeah.

06:34:11.180 But, like –

06:34:11.700 But, like, independent.

06:34:13.060 Like, she's confidently knowing what the fuck she's doing with her life, you know?

06:34:16.220 Like, independent type of, like, would you find that –

06:34:18.760 You mean career?

06:34:19.740 Career, anything.

06:34:20.620 Like, you know, like, she's on her shit.

06:34:22.120 She's confident about being –

06:34:23.260 Or just, like, not relying on you for everything.

06:34:26.340 Yeah.

06:34:26.820 But, like, yeah, so you would think that was more attractive, right?

06:34:29.580 Like, what men do –

06:34:30.500 Yeah, because –

06:34:31.600 Actually, I'm not –

06:34:32.600 I would say that.

06:34:32.920 Like, Ariana Grande.

06:34:33.720 What's your job?

06:34:34.180 That is my opinion.

06:34:35.320 What's your job?

06:34:35.800 Like, I'm a babysitter.

06:34:37.780 Okay.

06:34:38.240 You do that, like, 12 hours a week or something?

06:34:40.140 Yeah.

06:34:40.460 Like, well, it's like I babysit three different families.

06:34:43.440 Okay.

06:34:43.840 All right.

06:34:44.420 What were you saying?

06:34:44.780 That's good money.

06:34:45.320 That's why I put that as my opinion because all of my guy friends, they aren't attracted

06:34:50.580 to a girl if they're not independent and, like, have a passion and, like, yeah.

06:34:55.500 That's right.

06:34:55.640 She creates, like, new passions, like, every day.

06:34:57.620 I mean, I guess they're, like, the –

06:34:58.940 I'm just kidding.

06:34:59.800 What is that?

06:35:00.440 Hobbies.

06:35:00.780 The hobo sexuals who, like, they're looking to – wait, who had that?

06:35:05.840 Somebody had –

06:35:06.480 I'm pretty sure that was my ex who was a hobo sexual.

06:35:08.960 He was a hobo sexual.

06:35:10.200 He was a hobo sexual.

06:35:11.320 Oh, it's, like, a broke guy who's, like, trying to live with a chick.

06:35:14.320 Oh, that's, like –

06:35:15.160 Oh, so, yeah, sex with her, they live with her?

06:35:16.640 Yeah, basically.

06:35:18.580 Oh.

06:35:19.740 Yep.

06:35:20.020 I think there's another term for it, but, anyways, whatever.

06:35:22.800 Like, squatting or something?

06:35:24.260 Yeah.

06:35:24.740 One of my close guy friends is in a long-term relationship, and he was telling me the other

06:35:28.780 day, like, I'm not going to marry this person because she's only making this amount of money

06:35:33.720 annually.

06:35:34.540 But does he make more than that?

06:35:35.720 He's rich as fuck, and he still cares.

06:35:38.360 Then why would he care?

06:35:39.540 Good question.

06:35:40.260 Well, I mean, the only thing I could think of is, like, he's thinking, okay, well, if I

06:35:44.220 marry her, and she's not making any money, and if the relationship ends, then, like,

06:35:48.380 in the event of a divorce –

06:35:50.400 She's taking everything.

06:35:51.520 But I think that's looking at it –

06:35:53.140 I think for him, it has to do with drive from the conversation.

06:35:54.900 That's a long reason.

06:35:56.220 What's that?

06:35:57.040 I feel like if you look at it from that perspective, you're going into a relationship, like,

06:36:00.740 thinking about –

06:36:01.720 Yeah.

06:36:01.920 If you're going into a relationship thinking about the divorce, then, like –

06:36:05.120 Yeah, but I think that has more – that's not anything to do with attraction.

06:36:09.440 It's more like he's trying to, like, protect his own finances, but I don't think he would

06:36:16.360 be, like, more attractive – like, the girl's more attractive because –

06:36:23.700 His words was that she's going nowhere in life.

06:36:26.420 Well, he's in a relationship with her, so he's obviously, like, attracted to her.

06:36:28.500 She's so hot.

06:36:30.200 So hot.

06:36:31.340 Yeah.

06:36:32.140 Oh, my God.

06:36:34.020 But that's kind of fucked up.

06:36:35.460 Did you tell her that he's going to dump her?

06:36:37.760 No.

06:36:38.140 He had told me this, like, drunk in confidence, so I don't feel like it's my plan.

06:36:42.600 He might not even remember telling you.

06:36:43.520 I don't want to get involved.

06:36:44.840 I would have gotten involved.

06:36:46.840 All right.

06:36:47.540 Something I will say, too, I want to add to this is I've spent time around a lot.

06:36:51.640 I've spent time around some men who they're either rich already or they're very ambitious,

06:36:56.000 and it's, like, a lot of them, they want someone who kind of also just has that drive.

06:37:00.720 An asset, not someone who's going to spend all their money.

06:37:02.960 Exactly.

06:37:03.380 Like, they want someone who, like, a woman who, like, they know isn't going to depend on them

06:37:07.200 for everything.

06:37:09.720 Yeah.

06:37:10.460 The other thing, too, is, like, when a woman makes more money, it's, like, she can afford

06:37:13.800 to become hotter because, you know, she can afford, like, nicer clothes, better quality

06:37:17.080 skin care, healthier food.

06:37:19.000 And especially, you know, when you get older, too, like, those things become more important

06:37:22.060 for staying hot.

06:37:24.000 I agree.

06:37:25.060 Yeah.

06:37:26.100 Yeah.

06:37:26.420 By the way, to anyone that emails me, I'm not saying your name or information.

06:37:32.560 I'm super scared right now because I'm talking about people's business.

06:37:37.140 But it's okay.

06:37:38.020 You're not saying any names, so you're okay.

06:37:39.580 You're not saying any names.

06:37:40.360 Yeah, I'm good.

06:37:40.840 Clients.

06:37:41.880 Okay, Cassie.

06:37:43.960 Okay, Cassie.

06:37:45.020 She's like, oh, wait, I HIPAA violated.

06:37:47.220 Oh, fuck it.

06:37:48.020 That's hard.

06:37:49.220 She drank a little too much and did a HIPAA violated.

06:37:52.300 Yeah, don't worry.

06:37:53.200 All right, next one.

06:37:56.600 Okay, Nikki, the statement is women care more about looks than men do.

06:38:01.540 You're 50-50 in terms of disagreeing.

06:38:04.080 I didn't even read that one.

06:38:05.960 Darkavia, you disagree.

06:38:07.580 Darkavia.

06:38:08.280 Dark, dark lady.

06:38:11.640 Can I call you dark lady?

06:38:12.880 Dark labia.

06:38:14.080 Whoa.

06:38:16.040 Have you seen it?

06:38:18.400 No.

06:38:19.360 No, sorry.

06:38:20.460 Okay, wow.

06:38:21.020 Damn.

06:38:21.400 It was just a play on words.

06:38:23.360 I don't know what it looks like.

06:38:25.900 You would never know what it looks like.

06:38:29.460 Is it pink?

06:38:31.280 Yes, surprisingly.

06:38:33.200 All right, inappropriate.

06:38:35.320 Inappropriate.

06:38:36.400 You wanted to know.

06:38:37.720 Inappropriate.

06:38:38.680 Dark.

06:38:40.520 Can I just call you?

06:38:41.480 He said you're hotter than real.

06:38:42.960 DJ.

06:38:43.660 Yeah.

06:38:44.000 DJ.

06:38:44.800 DJ, play that back.

06:38:46.460 Are you going to be dark?

06:38:47.780 I feel like that'd be kind of racist.

06:38:49.500 That's low key.

06:38:50.340 Not on the podcast.

06:38:52.640 You said, I mean, you're pretty light-skinned, too.

06:38:55.220 She's too light-skinned.

06:38:56.620 Yes.

06:38:57.580 Go with your makeup.

06:38:58.240 Women care more.

06:39:00.240 Women care more about looks than men do.

06:39:02.300 You disagree.

06:39:04.080 And then, Laura, you also disagree.

06:39:07.800 Women care more.

06:39:08.380 I think y'all care more about looks than men do.

06:39:11.740 You know what I mean?

06:39:12.840 Y'all care way more about them looks.

06:39:14.720 I still think it's 50-50, because I've heard from plenty of men that they definitely care

06:39:22.140 about how a girl looks and all that, and then I've definitely heard from us that we

06:39:25.740 care, so I really think it's-

06:39:26.540 Whether it's body or they're looking for a specific face or whatever, they have their-

06:39:30.760 Oh, shit.

06:39:31.640 I think it's even.

06:39:33.380 Look who's back.

06:39:34.720 Fucking-

06:39:35.860 Allie.

06:39:38.020 W's Allie in the chat.

06:39:38.900 Honestly, I think from my past experience from my men-

06:39:41.400 Your past experience is from men?

06:39:42.420 Men, like the ones I've dated, not good.

06:39:46.200 I know I'm based off personality.

06:39:47.600 You mean how they look?

06:39:48.400 Yes.

06:39:48.980 I know I'm based off personality.

06:39:50.560 She's definitely personality.

06:39:52.600 I think my only position on this is just like, there's- I feel like there's a lot of things

06:39:57.200 that when it comes to looks, women care a decent amount about that are totally out of

06:40:02.240 men's control, but like-

06:40:04.520 Like height.

06:40:05.400 Yeah, like, okay, so height, hair, and penis size.

06:40:09.420 All three are totally out of men's control, absent like surgical intervention.

06:40:14.600 Some guys care about hair, too.

06:40:16.120 Like a woman.

06:40:17.140 As someone who has curly hair, some guys are like, no.

06:40:20.680 Just because you have curly hair.

06:40:21.960 That's fair.

06:40:22.400 That's fair.

06:40:23.000 Guys care about hair a lot, because I have nappy hair, and I wore a wig today, and I

06:40:28.780 have 11 inches of hair, which is a decent amount of hair for a black girl, and my cousin

06:40:33.400 told me to wear a wig.

06:40:34.860 Are you wearing-

06:40:35.220 Wait, are you wearing a wig?

06:40:36.600 Of course I'm wearing a wig.

06:40:37.880 You don't see this lace part?

06:40:38.500 Can I have it?

06:40:39.520 Of course.

06:40:40.280 Yes, you could have it.

06:40:41.180 No, like, here, I'll put it on right now.

06:40:42.600 I'll be throwing around.

06:40:43.220 Um, I have to, like, I have to put some water and a comb in my hair.

06:40:47.300 Oh, you gotta, like, take the glue off, or?

06:40:49.060 Yeah.

06:40:49.440 Is there glue?

06:40:49.900 You know what you're talking about.

06:40:51.140 You have to be with that glue.

06:40:53.160 Whoa.

06:40:54.740 Uh, well, you know.

06:40:55.920 Another thing I think, too, is I think for a lot of people, it's, like, the lifestyle.

06:40:59.780 Yeah.

06:41:00.180 Yeah, like, I know for me, it's, like, you know, I want a guy who goes to the gym, eats

06:41:03.700 healthy, like, dresses nice, has a skincare routine, but it's, like, that's lifestyle things.

06:41:08.000 Like, he has control over that.

06:41:09.740 Yes.

06:41:10.140 Like, a guy can control how many days he goes to the gym.

06:41:12.980 For me, all of my exes were below average down there, and they were just funny, and they

06:41:18.860 were addicts, so.

06:41:19.900 And I know a lot of guys care about, like, shaved, shaved vagina, but men do care about

06:41:25.640 how a woman looked, because when I was 230 pounds, nobody looked at me.

06:41:30.240 Do you have a question for you, since, how many addicts have you dated?

06:41:35.120 Drug addicts.

06:41:36.260 Drug addicts.

06:41:37.760 Slept with or dated?

06:41:39.080 Uh-huh.

06:41:40.380 Dated.

06:41:40.880 We'll do dated.

06:41:41.500 No, let's do slept with.

06:41:43.060 Dated would be.

06:41:44.840 Okay.

06:41:45.680 Three.

06:41:46.760 Three?

06:41:47.240 Slept with.

06:41:48.980 I don't even remember.

06:41:49.900 Some of them.

06:41:53.580 That's crazy.

06:41:54.540 That's crazy.

06:41:54.840 The numbers are counting.

06:41:58.160 I'd say, like, between.

06:42:00.120 Do, do, do, do.

06:42:01.940 Do, do, do, do.

06:42:03.600 Probably, like, ten, and, like, half of them were sober.

06:42:07.540 They were sober, or you were sober?

06:42:09.080 Both.

06:42:09.540 When you had the.

06:42:10.660 Wait.

06:42:12.160 Oh, X, X.

06:42:12.800 Yeah, just all.

06:42:13.820 Oh, yeah.

06:42:13.880 All who have ever put the P to the V, right?

06:42:18.420 I would say ten total, and, like, half of them were before I got sober, and they weren't

06:42:23.340 sober, and then half, we were both sober.

06:42:25.580 Three relationships?

06:42:26.460 But we were addicts.

06:42:26.840 You said?

06:42:27.360 Three relationships with addicts?

06:42:29.020 Do you, like, going in, do you have a preference for either, like, when you were dating current

06:42:35.640 addicts?

06:42:36.360 Like, do you have a preference for the drug of choice?

06:42:39.040 And then also, like, like, their X drug of choice?

06:42:42.320 Like, the X, the X heroin addicts?

06:42:45.060 Like, yes, but X meth, no?

06:42:47.080 Or, you know what I mean?

06:42:49.420 The last four years of dating addicts, so out of the addicts I've dated.

06:42:53.400 Like, did you go for a specific?

06:42:54.320 They were sober and then relapsed, but what their drug of choice was before sobriety was, like,

06:43:01.600 heroin, crack, meth.

06:43:04.140 In that order, or?

06:43:05.040 Um, first boyfriend was crack, um, second one was fentanyl, actually, and, um, third

06:43:14.220 was meth and heroin, and the guy I'm seeing right now used to do heroin.

06:43:22.060 Give me your cotton mouth thinking about it.

06:43:24.200 But he's two years sober.

06:43:25.920 So, so, what I've, what I've gathered from tonight's panel, from you two, is that one,

06:43:31.300 if you show up, to do a photo shoot without a camera, you're likely going to get a long-term

06:43:36.740 relationship.

06:43:37.120 Why are we running it back?

06:43:38.320 You're likely going to get a long-term relationship from a woman, even if you cheat on her like

06:43:46.160 17 times.

06:43:47.300 And then I also gathered from this panel that if you do a whole shitload of drugs, you're

06:43:53.940 probably also going to get a chick.

06:43:55.560 That's, I mean, so, I think, uh, I think that we have established that basically being

06:44:00.740 a complete and total piece of shit, if you're a man, pays off.

06:44:04.120 Well, for me, dating them had to be the fact that I was sober, and they were sober also,

06:44:09.400 because it's really hard for me to date people that aren't sober.

06:44:13.600 Wait, but how about, would you date somebody, though, that is sober, no, no, no, is sober,

06:44:19.880 but never had a drug problem?

06:44:22.300 Um, yeah.

06:44:22.640 Or do you prefer to date, like, ex-addicts?

06:44:24.560 Yes, but I, I think it also, I would prefer, and my therapist said I should stop dating

06:44:30.900 ex-addicts, but I like it because they get why I'm sober, and I hate having to explain

06:44:36.120 to people, um, so I think it's, I like feeling understood.

06:44:42.180 Okay, that's fair.

06:44:43.720 That is fair.

06:44:45.060 Uh, okay, so.

06:44:46.380 Did we ever get that number?

06:44:47.260 You want the guy to have the same, like, deep lore?

06:44:49.540 We didn't get the number.

06:44:50.400 Which number?

06:44:50.680 Like, deep lore.

06:44:51.300 Which number?

06:44:53.300 Which number?

06:44:54.560 Well, you were at, you, you put up the little math thing for her.

06:44:57.500 Oh, no, yeah, she, she said, like, ten and half were probably, we were both on drugs,

06:45:02.740 and half we were both sober.

06:45:05.100 All right, uh, let's see, okay, I'll move it on then.

06:45:07.980 Uh, we have, anything for eight?

06:45:12.220 Uh, no, no, no, okay, uh, a lot of you disagreed, though, Allie, uh, so, statement is,

06:45:20.180 dating is easier for women, to which, Allie, you disagreed.

06:45:25.380 Rachel disagreed.

06:45:26.980 Uh, DJ agreed.

06:45:31.940 Milena agreed.

06:45:33.920 Jay, you disagreed.

06:45:35.800 Laura, you disagreed.

06:45:37.680 Dating, uh, dating easier for, uh, you guys think?

06:45:41.640 Dating's easier for who?

06:45:42.780 Women.

06:45:43.480 Women?

06:45:43.980 For women.

06:45:44.580 Like, it's hard for everyone, it's rough for all of us.

06:45:47.440 The one thing I learned from stripping is guys will take anything that's pretty and

06:45:55.040 has a pulse.

06:45:55.940 So, like, for me, I'm like, 99% of guys would have sex with me, but there's a very low amount

06:46:04.400 that would date me.

06:46:05.900 I mean, there's a lot, and it seems like a lot of addicts are lining up.

06:46:09.880 They're lining up.

06:46:10.640 Yeah, the addicts, man.

06:46:12.020 Um, it's out the door with the addicts.

06:46:14.380 But I think for guys, it's a lot harder.

06:46:16.440 Like, there's less options, especially with sex.

06:46:20.560 Mm-hmm.

06:46:21.660 I personally find it way too easy to date.

06:46:23.840 I have, like, every, like, guy that I'm with wants to be in, like, this long-term, like,

06:46:29.020 they always want to, like, date.

06:46:30.840 And I have that opposite problem, and I'm just like, I'm here for fun, bro.

06:46:34.160 Yeah, I just think that, I honestly think that why it's easier for women to date is

06:46:38.220 because they can get anything.

06:46:39.520 Like, they can get any man simply just because they have what they have in between their legs.

06:46:44.280 Um, but men, it's harder because women are picky about who they go for, and, like, because

06:46:49.120 they're so teen on the public eye, and, like, you know, like, do they make me look good?

06:46:53.280 And just, like, they're so picky when it comes to men and shit.

06:46:55.720 But men, that's why it's harder for men to freaking.

06:46:57.840 Yeah.

06:46:58.360 Women are picky for what they go for.

06:47:00.360 That's why the birth rates are declining.

06:47:03.320 No, that's not right.

06:47:04.100 The birth rates are declining.

06:47:05.300 I don't know.

06:47:05.780 That's part of the reason.

06:47:07.420 The birth rates are declining because of the evaluation of education over fertile years.

06:47:13.120 That's the only reason they're declining.

06:47:14.320 But that aside, to the panel, very happy to have met all of you.

06:47:19.280 My heart out here at 3 o'clock Eastern time.

06:47:22.920 I don't hold any ill will, though we've had some contentiousness in the conversation.

06:47:28.380 That is my job here is to give necessary pushback to your positions.

06:47:32.320 And I did enjoy the various conversations.

06:47:35.600 I hope you guys all have a great night.

06:47:37.760 Yo, Andrew, thank you so much for joining us tonight.

06:47:40.380 Thank you.

06:47:40.980 I do appreciate it.

06:47:41.460 Thank you for having us.

06:47:42.180 Send us over the crucible.

06:47:44.620 Oh, yeah.

06:47:45.100 We got you.

06:47:46.160 And we will welcome them with open arms.

06:47:48.780 Thank you so much, Andrew.

06:47:49.620 Hope you have a good night.

06:47:51.220 Yeah, a little less tonight, we had a, for some reason, the stream crashed.

06:47:55.100 I don't know why.

06:47:57.540 And it automatically started a new stream.

06:47:59.820 I've never seen that before.

06:48:00.680 That's strange.

06:48:01.580 Yeah, your signal gave out to us briefly.

06:48:05.520 So maybe it was just a, did you ever get that Verizon thing I told you about?

06:48:09.820 I did.

06:48:10.640 Yeah.

06:48:11.100 I haven't set it up yet, though.

06:48:12.280 Oh, get it.

06:48:12.940 You got it.

06:48:13.540 Hey, Andrew.

06:48:14.280 Yeah, I'll set it up.

06:48:15.320 Get it set it up.

06:48:16.440 It's a lifesaver.

06:48:18.200 Anyways, good night, Matt.

06:48:19.460 Have a great night.

06:48:20.240 Thank you for this great conversation.

06:48:21.840 And we're, uh...

06:48:22.300 Oh, have a good night.

06:48:23.560 Thanks for having us.

06:48:25.020 And we're pretty close to being finished with everything.

06:48:29.460 Then we're going to do a roast session, then wrap up the show.

06:48:32.840 This is kind of similar to this.

06:48:34.380 A lot of you disagreed also with men put in more effort than women when it comes to dating.

06:48:39.180 I don't think they put enough effort.

06:48:40.780 I think I disagree to that.

06:48:42.040 Sometimes, depending, because I've let many of you guys do not put enough.

06:48:44.160 Well, it could be the case that men don't put in enough effort, but I think it's...

06:48:47.540 Maybe it's not the effort we're looking for.

06:48:48.640 I think it's fair to say men put in more effort than women.

06:48:51.760 Depends, because in my relationship, I've been putting in the most.

06:48:53.840 In my relationships, I put in.

06:48:55.800 You put in all the effort?

06:48:56.600 I do, too.

06:48:57.000 Me, too.

06:48:57.300 Not all of it, but more.

06:48:58.660 For sure.

06:48:59.220 I have to say, like, yeah, I'm the opposite again.

06:49:01.920 Men put in more effort than women.

06:49:03.500 I need to start putting in more effort.

06:49:04.260 DJ disagrees with that statement.

06:49:06.700 Melaina disagrees.

06:49:08.580 I don't know, man.

06:49:09.580 Y'all...

06:49:10.880 Y'all...

06:49:11.340 You saw my track record.

06:49:12.640 You're not surprised that I put more effort.

06:49:14.900 Do you?

06:49:15.260 I do.

06:49:16.220 I am confident that when I'm sober, I'm a really good partner.

06:49:20.580 Okay.

06:49:21.240 I'm gonna...

06:49:22.460 Unless...

06:49:23.320 I mean, really, just ultimately, my position is that on that one, it seems to me that certainly

06:49:28.420 during the initial stages, men are putting in, like, orders of magnitude more effort because

06:49:34.600 there is, like, not all women, but typically, there's gonna be an expectation on the guy.

06:49:38.720 Like, he's gotta make the first move, and, like, the first move entails, like, a lot of

06:49:43.400 individual steps.

06:49:44.460 Like, for example, either, let's say, even if it's on a dating app, he's gotta send the

06:49:51.360 first message, but if it's in person, he's probably gonna be the one who has to approach

06:49:54.580 you.

06:49:54.780 He's gotta kind of carry the conversation, and initially, if he is approaching you, he's

06:49:59.080 gotta sort of make the overture to, like, get your number, he's gotta, like, follow

06:50:03.720 up with you, text you, et cetera, et cetera, ask for the date, plan the date, pay for the

06:50:09.460 date.

06:50:10.460 I pay for every dinner the first six months of my last relationship.

06:50:14.760 What a...

06:50:15.320 Bro, just kidding.

06:50:16.520 I have no problem approaching the guy first.

06:50:19.580 Good?

06:50:19.980 Okay.

06:50:20.440 Yeah, I have no problem with that.

06:50:21.800 Who here approaches the guy first?

06:50:22.520 Come on.

06:50:22.720 Me.

06:50:23.140 Okay.

06:50:23.560 I mean, let me tell you why.

06:50:24.560 Let me tell you why.

06:50:25.400 Let me tell you a reason why I always...

06:50:26.600 Because I think...

06:50:27.660 I believe that men love women that are more assertive, that will take action.

06:50:32.900 Yeah.

06:50:33.420 Literally.

06:50:34.260 They like that.

06:50:34.660 I promise you, I can pull any freaking man.

06:50:36.600 Yeah.

06:50:37.080 Any man.

06:50:37.740 They love the confidence.

06:50:38.200 Just by going up by a first.

06:50:39.040 Well, so, but you said you can pull any guy?

06:50:42.180 Yeah.

06:50:42.760 But the thing is...

06:50:43.180 No, no, no, no.

06:50:43.500 Not that.

06:50:44.160 Like, I mean, like, once I'm, like...

06:50:46.420 When you do approach, it's always successful, though, right?

06:50:49.200 The confidence.

06:50:50.100 Like, no, it's not that.

06:50:51.360 Yeah, it's not always successful because sometimes they're not into...

06:50:54.400 But, like, here, how about this?

06:50:55.600 Who faces more rejection romantically in general, men or women?

06:50:59.400 Men.

06:50:59.700 Absolutely men.

06:50:59.960 Okay, so, like, yeah, I'm dating harder for...

06:51:01.840 But imagine a girl coming up to you.

06:51:02.440 Isn't that a cool thing that you mentioned earlier, though?

06:51:04.460 It's a lot.

06:51:04.820 Or he mentioned earlier.

06:51:05.600 It's just, like, there's more men that approach women, so, of course, they're going to get

06:51:08.580 rejected more.

06:51:09.160 Yeah.

06:51:09.500 Well, I mean, I would say even if women, at least when it comes to, like, sort of how

06:51:13.800 the gender dynamics are currently, yes, more men do approach.

06:51:20.780 It's probably a 99% differential.

06:51:23.900 But I would argue that if, even if we were to equalize the rates at which men and women

06:51:31.360 approach, women are going to be, like, just way more successful.

06:51:36.480 Although, perhaps you could argue, like, you would see some changes if you truly equalized

06:51:41.280 it.

06:51:42.140 But as a woman, if you do approach in the current status quo, your success rate is going

06:51:49.780 to be really high compared to a guy.

06:51:52.860 Because of the gap, right?

06:51:53.900 Yeah.

06:51:54.280 Like, really high.

06:51:55.220 And then also, I would add on top of that, even if the guy has, like, a girlfriend or

06:51:58.820 he's not interested, he's likely to take this as super flattering.

06:52:02.440 And he's going to probably respectfully let you down.

06:52:05.680 Whereas, like, women can respectfully, like, let down men, but they're much more likely to

06:52:09.720 get, like, creepy guy factor, creep.

06:52:12.740 And they're going to, like, I don't know.

06:52:14.700 When they start cussing you out saying, you're not hot.

06:52:17.220 I don't even like you.

06:52:18.380 You're not hot.

06:52:18.960 I don't even want you anyways.

06:52:20.500 Yeah.

06:52:20.880 I mean.

06:52:21.940 Retaliation.

06:52:22.540 But, wait, I'm trying to think what I was, what the men put in more effort.

06:52:27.380 But at all these points, and even, like, so I think I left off at they have to ask for

06:52:32.240 the first date, plan for the first date.

06:52:33.580 When they're on the date, I feel like men have to lead there.

06:52:36.660 Well, it's not that I feel I know.

06:52:37.780 Men have to lead there.

06:52:38.860 And then from there, if we want to move things forward, we have to kind of initiate from there.

06:52:46.340 I want to come back to my place.

06:52:48.220 At my place, go for the first kiss.

06:52:50.920 Move things forward from there sexually.

06:52:52.640 Move things forward physically.

06:52:54.340 And then if there's second, if that doesn't happen that night, there's going to be second, third, fourth, fifth date where, like, you have to basically repeat some of those steps.

06:53:03.640 That's because men are the gatekeepers of relationships, and women are the gatekeepers of sex.

06:53:09.080 You sound drunk, too.

06:53:10.900 I am drunk, yeah.

06:53:12.200 Why did, bro, who's been, oh my god.

06:53:14.800 We don't like people that drink.

06:53:15.980 I want someone to make an edit of how many times she cracked one under the table.

06:53:18.700 It's okay.

06:53:19.240 It's okay, Cassie.

06:53:20.220 I accept your apology.

06:53:22.160 No, I took a plane.

06:53:22.580 You alcoholic, you.

06:53:24.720 You didn't join the club since.

06:53:27.420 I rarely drink.

06:53:28.520 I just drank because I came to California.

06:53:30.120 Yeah, and then moving on to the next one, we only have, like, three more of these.

06:53:36.360 DJ, you said it's, here's the prompt, acceptable for a man to refuse to date a woman because she's overweight.

06:53:43.840 You disagree.

06:53:46.120 Like, yes, like, if he has every right to refuse.

06:53:49.240 Oh, okay, never mind then.

06:53:50.740 So, you agree with the prompt.

06:53:53.560 It's a bit of a, some of these are kind of, like, double negative.

06:53:55.960 Oh, okay, so, yeah, because, like, in my eyes, like, they.

06:54:00.120 How do I put it, like, yeah, like, it depends.

06:54:02.260 Oh, okay, never mind then.

06:54:04.780 The next prompt is, it's fine to ask a woman her body count on the first date.

06:54:11.440 You disagree, DJ.

06:54:14.860 I think you're the only, no, Laura also disagrees.

06:54:18.320 Wrong to ask a woman her body count on the first date.

06:54:20.340 Yes.

06:54:20.840 Wouldn't that be, like, the perfect time to ask it?

06:54:22.560 No, because, honestly, we are all, we are all grown.

06:54:26.200 We are all grown.

06:54:26.840 And I don't know why nobody is actually giving a shit about who, how many people I fuck

06:54:30.620 and how many people they fuck.

06:54:31.680 We are all grown.

06:54:32.560 Nobody gives a fuck about that shit anymore.

06:54:33.880 I mean.

06:54:34.440 If a guy cares, I would rather them leave.

06:54:38.240 I'm like, okay.

06:54:38.760 Yeah, dude, like, you want to know my body count?

06:54:39.960 It's me leaving out of the door.

06:54:41.500 Like, that's my body count.

06:54:42.340 Like, I will not.

06:54:43.240 Like, when, if you ask me about my body count, I'm like, I will look at them dumbfounded

06:54:46.620 because we are grown people.

06:54:49.500 Especially the first date.

06:54:50.800 I mean, that's why I answered it the way I did.

06:54:52.640 It's just like, you're, go ahead and ask.

06:54:54.660 Yeah, like, especially at my age, too.

06:54:56.600 It's like, when you're older, of course you're going to have more experience in most, in most

06:55:00.440 cases.

06:55:01.100 I think it's okay for them to care, so I'd rather them ask me right away, so then I know

06:55:04.820 that they're the type to care and I don't waste my time.

06:55:07.380 Yep.

06:55:07.660 Exactly.

06:55:07.880 If they care, I'd rather be up front about it.

06:55:09.740 Why are we talking about this?

06:55:10.480 I would just assume that he just wanted to have sex and I'd leave.

06:55:13.040 Are we all like, let me talk or what?

06:55:14.180 I said, why, I said, why are we bringing up the past, though?

06:55:18.420 Like, what?

06:55:19.380 What do you mean?

06:55:20.200 We're saying that we would rather them.

06:55:21.860 Wait, wait, wait, why are we talking about the, like, how many people, other people

06:55:25.440 I fucked?

06:55:25.860 Aren't you just worried about if I'm going to fuck you?

06:55:28.360 Like, we agree with that.

06:55:29.400 We're saying, yeah.

06:55:29.940 If the guy is the type to care, I would rather find out that he's a piece of shit that cares

06:55:34.500 before he wastes a month of my time.

06:55:36.000 I have never, I have never, I have never, I have never ever went on a date and a guy

06:55:39.400 have ever asked my body count.

06:55:40.840 Yeah, no.

06:55:41.180 Never.

06:55:41.880 Good.

06:55:42.260 Yeah, I never have either.

06:55:43.180 As a shit guy.

06:55:43.600 If I'm dating you, you have every right to know because you don't even have a right to know

06:55:47.220 then, but still, if I'm dating you and you ask me, sure, I'll tell you, I won't lie to

06:55:52.580 you.

06:55:52.920 You were saying something, like, a minute ago, you wanted to jump in.

06:55:56.460 It was the same thing that she was saying.

06:55:58.480 Oh, okay.

06:56:00.260 Yeah.

06:56:01.220 My past is my past.

06:56:02.500 Why are we digging it up?

06:56:03.340 Why are we digging up my past?

06:56:04.740 Like, it's not really that important.

06:56:06.180 Wouldn't you want to know, like, if...

06:56:07.820 No, I would not want to know what he's been through.

06:56:10.200 What about if he was a cheater?

06:56:11.620 Oh, well, you don't care about it.

06:56:12.840 But why would I, well, why would I, because if he was a past cheater, it doesn't mean he's

06:56:16.980 a cheater now, like, like, but people do say if she wants a cheater, oh, he's a cheater,

06:56:21.820 but I don't believe that.

06:56:23.840 Do you believe in that, Brian?

06:56:25.320 Do you believe that?

06:56:26.420 Brian, did you, have you cheated?

06:56:27.860 Have you cheated, Brian?

06:56:29.220 So, I'll answer your question, so.

06:56:33.100 Calm down, chill out, Brian.

06:56:35.100 Chill out, Brian.

06:56:36.220 I think we want a body count.

06:56:37.300 All these details.

06:56:38.900 No, look, could somebody have cheated in the past, and then could they then move on to

06:56:44.420 future relationships and never cheat?

06:56:47.120 Sure, absolutely.

06:56:48.820 But, like, if somebody has, like, a pattern of behavior, like, it is something to consider,

06:56:55.240 and, like, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't fault somebody, like, if they discovered that the

06:57:00.720 person they're going on the first date with, they find out, oh, this person cheated on their

06:57:04.400 last three relationships.

06:57:05.700 I don't think it would be wrong for them to be like, oh, that's your past.

06:57:09.000 I'm going to not date you because of your past.

06:57:11.500 But, like, how would you find that out?

06:57:12.860 Unless you really start digging, and why are you digging, like, about something you don't

06:57:16.060 want to know about?

06:57:17.500 Yeah, that's actually just paranoia.

06:57:18.420 That's literally, like, ignorance is bliss, though.

06:57:21.000 Yeah, but that's mentally self-harm.

06:57:23.320 You're just hurting yourself digging that information up.

06:57:25.480 No, but, wait, hold on.

06:57:25.980 Because how else would you have known that?

06:57:27.300 Wait, are you running on the pretense that, like, you would rather a woman have a lower

06:57:29.700 body count?

06:57:30.480 Well, I'll come to that in just a second.

06:57:32.240 I do want to respond to your thing, though.

06:57:33.420 So, wouldn't it be, you're saying, like, protect your mind, right?

06:57:37.380 But wouldn't it be, like, if you found out something about somebody that was like, ooh,

06:57:41.640 okay, because of X, I don't want to date them, that would be, like, moving more towards wanting

06:57:48.180 to protect your peace of mind or whatever?

06:57:50.560 Because, like, oh, this is, they're going to cheat on, for example, the cheating thing.

06:57:55.240 Oh, I guess I really liked this person, but now I don't want to date them because they're

06:57:59.900 a cheater.

06:58:00.460 Yeah, that sucks.

06:58:01.180 But I think it'd be worse to get into a relationship with them, not knowing they're a cheater, and

06:58:06.120 then they cheat on you.

06:58:07.220 Yes.

06:58:07.580 And then you just got cheated on.

06:58:08.360 So, but how would you find out they're a cheater?

06:58:10.720 Because you care.

06:58:12.020 I mean, like, you care too much.

06:58:14.220 But it's like you.

06:58:14.740 A lot of people aren't honest.

06:58:15.780 You literally said, you literally said that you don't like going through your man's phone.

06:58:19.400 Why?

06:58:19.620 Because I know I'll find something I don't like.

06:58:21.700 That's exactly why you don't, you don't dig.

06:58:24.000 You don't dig unless you want to find something.

06:58:25.640 You don't want to let see.

06:58:26.260 I want the truth.

06:58:27.180 I want the truth.

06:58:28.040 Even if the truth sucks or is uncomfortable.

06:58:29.540 I am the same freaking way, but I used to be like that.

06:58:32.580 I want the truth, but I'm not going to go through a phone.

06:58:34.020 I used to be like that, but some things you just don't want to find out anymore.

06:58:39.740 You had a question for me?

06:58:41.160 Yeah.

06:58:41.520 Are you saying that you'd rather have a lower body count?

06:58:44.280 You mean?

06:58:44.920 A woman to have a lower.

06:58:46.580 Okay.

06:58:46.780 So then you guys were also talking about how, like, men just want to fuck.

06:58:49.620 And that the first thing that they want is to fuck.

06:58:51.700 So wouldn't the ratio kind of like for all women be higher?

06:58:54.100 Because like all of these men want to fuck them.

06:58:56.100 So wait, hold on.

06:58:57.260 Let me wrap my head around this.

06:58:58.180 So you're saying that there's a pool of men that are tainting all the women.

06:59:03.380 For each other.

06:59:04.120 Right.

06:59:04.380 Because like you all want a lower body count, but you all want to fuck a bunch of women.

06:59:09.500 Yeah.

06:59:11.140 So you're saying, okay, I see what you're saying.

06:59:13.160 You're saying like, okay, men, you're saying men, they want these low body count women,

06:59:17.940 but they're contributing to this very problem by fucking a lot of women.

06:59:21.400 For a game.

06:59:22.220 Literally just to fuck them.

06:59:22.980 Because it takes two to tango.

06:59:24.460 Sure.

06:59:25.160 But like as women, you're the gatekeepers, right?

06:59:27.960 So like nothing is compelling you as a woman to sleep with a guy.

06:59:31.380 So we all need to say.

06:59:32.120 So like.

06:59:32.620 Didn't you just say a man would say anything he wants to say to fuck a woman?

06:59:36.460 Some men, not all men, but yeah, some men.

06:59:38.200 But it's your.

06:59:38.840 So wouldn't they be contributing?

06:59:40.280 Sorry.

06:59:40.740 Yeah, sure.

06:59:41.080 I don't disagree with you that men, some, not all men, some men are contributing.

06:59:46.500 Yeah, that's all I mean.

06:59:47.240 I'm not saying women aren't the problem.

06:59:49.340 I'm not saying anything about that.

06:59:50.880 I'm just saying you're admitting you're causing a problem for your own wants and needs.

06:59:55.340 That's all.

06:59:55.920 Sure.

06:59:57.560 All women just need to say no to sex.

06:59:59.640 But that's never going to happen.

07:00:01.060 It's cut it all off.

07:00:01.720 Not me, but you know, you all say no to sex with men.

07:00:03.980 Well, you're free.

07:00:04.400 You're free.

07:00:05.000 You get somebody else to do it.

07:00:05.900 You're safe.

07:00:06.700 You're safe.

07:00:07.140 Get each other out.

07:00:08.060 Join the dark side, boo.

07:00:09.080 So, and you were gone.

07:00:10.920 I'm going to jump back a little bit just because you were gone,

07:00:13.320 but there's one that you disagreed with.

07:00:14.860 Acceptable for high body count men to prefer to date low body count virgin women.

07:00:18.720 This is kind of tying into this, this one.

07:00:21.200 You disagree with that.

07:00:22.940 Can you phrase it in?

07:00:23.860 Because the double natives are killing me.

07:00:25.300 Sure.

07:00:26.180 Acceptable for high body count men.

07:00:28.580 So a guy with a high body count to prefer to date low body count virgin women.

07:00:33.660 You disagree with this prompt.

07:00:35.240 I mean, I think I literally just explained that, that I think it's crap that

07:00:38.260 they want to go and say, well, I want a low body count,

07:00:41.480 but I'm going to rank up a bunch of women's body count because I have a higher one.

07:00:45.700 I think it's, I think it's crap.

07:00:47.460 Do I think it's like in the terms of acceptable, do I think they are allowed?

07:00:51.940 Men are allowed to do what they want.

07:00:53.280 Clearly they do do what they want.

07:00:56.640 So you, okay.

07:00:57.500 You object to their past conduct and then them,

07:01:00.820 then wanting after contributing to the very problem of women with high body counts.

07:01:06.380 Uh, you, it's kind of like, well, you contributed to the problem and you want a low body count

07:01:13.060 women, woman, but there's all these high body count women out there because of your very

07:01:19.140 own conduct.

07:01:20.420 Correct.

07:01:21.420 But isn't that, that's, I suppose that's fair to say insofar as they contributed to it.

07:01:25.720 But again, I like as far, I don't think we disagree though.

07:01:29.680 You said like, well, yeah, they can, they're allowed to want that.

07:01:33.160 So they're allowed to want whatever they want, but I think it's a little bullshit.

07:01:35.780 Yeah.

07:01:36.100 But can it, men are the same exact way.

07:01:37.780 Men can literally not sleep around.

07:01:39.740 You literally just agreed though.

07:01:41.000 You said like they are contributing to the problem that they want.

07:01:43.280 No, I agree that they're contributing to it, but I don't think it's bullshit for them

07:01:49.840 to, despite this, want a woman with a low body count.

07:01:54.660 I don't think that's bullshit.

07:01:57.400 What would you think it is?

07:01:59.660 Give me a word.

07:02:01.640 Preference.

07:02:02.120 Preference.

07:02:02.440 Okay.

07:02:02.720 So girls have preference too.

07:02:05.060 Yeah.

07:02:05.220 Women have preferences.

07:02:06.540 Your friend over here is in a wheelchair.

07:02:08.340 She doesn't want to date a guy in a wheelchair.

07:02:10.200 That's, oh, is that double standard?

07:02:11.680 I mean, at least hers was based in practicality of reaching the back burner.

07:02:15.220 Yours is just like, I want it.

07:02:16.900 So there, I get it.

07:02:17.720 Well, hold on.

07:02:18.160 There's plenty of reasons to prefer to date somebody with a low body count.

07:02:21.140 Give me a practical reason.

07:02:22.620 Practical.

07:02:23.100 Is every person you're sleeping with to know that you're below average?

07:02:26.920 Okay.

07:02:27.840 STDs.

07:02:28.580 You don't want them to know you're below average.

07:02:29.560 Okay.

07:02:29.760 They get a test.

07:02:31.320 Yeah, sure.

07:02:31.740 But like, this is, this is a consideration to have.

07:02:33.900 And the thing is like, yes, they can get a test, but like a lot of people,

07:02:37.620 uh, could lie, right?

07:02:39.680 They could lie.

07:02:40.180 But also, the majority of STDs now can either be cured or treated so that they are so low

07:02:45.060 that they are not detectable and can't be passed on.

07:02:47.920 I'd rather not get the STD.

07:02:48.280 Well, then maybe just take that as an argument.

07:02:49.900 What if you get the STD on your, having fun?

07:02:51.980 There's herpes, there's herpes, HPV, these things are, you know, can't get rid of them.

07:02:55.340 But you can get a test to know if I'm a virgin.

07:02:57.080 Can you just eliminate that by asking for a test?

07:03:00.420 Uh, you could, but like, here, how about this?

07:03:03.240 Practically speaking, do you think most people who engage in a sexual encounter are getting,

07:03:08.440 both partners are getting tested prior?

07:03:10.200 I never said that, but I'm basing off of your preference.

07:03:12.360 Do you think that Rachel can just stand?

07:03:13.420 But so like, in reality, we can talk about like STD.

07:03:15.540 That's what I'm saying.

07:03:16.020 Hold on.

07:03:16.620 Hold on.

07:03:16.900 But like, yeah, we can talk about like STD testing, but like practically speaking,

07:03:21.680 living in reality, most people are not getting full panel STD tests before they have sex.

07:03:25.080 For sure, I'm saying if you want to find someone with a low body count, due to the fact that

07:03:30.680 you don't want to catch an STD, you may eliminate that issue by just getting testing.

07:03:34.880 Yeah.

07:03:35.060 So I can give you some other reasons too, why men care about body count.

07:03:39.260 So, okay.

07:03:39.860 First off, there's just this.

07:03:41.860 I don't know if you'll even find this compelling, but this is, I think the biggest basis for

07:03:46.440 why men care about this.

07:03:48.000 Uh, it's just evolutionary.

07:03:49.240 It's just biological for men.

07:03:50.860 So it comes down to paternity certainty or paternity, excuse me.

07:03:55.080 Eternity, uncertainty.

07:03:56.780 So for example, if a woman is sleeping with multiple men and they're all blasting inside

07:04:01.920 or whatever, or even if there's infidelity, she's cheating.

07:04:04.500 If a woman gets pregnant, right?

07:04:06.720 And again, I know there's like DNA tests and abortion or birth control.

07:04:13.680 Hold on.

07:04:14.820 Hold on.

07:04:15.180 So, so this is why it's important though.

07:04:17.800 So, and this is, it's like an, there's an evolutionary disgust response for, for men

07:04:22.240 when it comes to promiscuity in women for, this is one of the reasons aside from like

07:04:26.380 STDs and just kind of like the fact that it would be gross to like, I don't know if some

07:04:29.720 dude just fucked a girl and then you fuck her like right after they're still like comments

07:04:33.720 that that's just gross on its face.

07:04:35.860 But evolutionarily speaking evolution.

07:04:38.880 Yeah.

07:04:39.080 Okay.

07:04:39.380 Yeah.

07:04:39.900 Detail, right.

07:04:41.320 Evolutionarily speaking.

07:04:42.560 So if a woman is sleeping with 10 men, right?

07:04:46.940 Who's the, who's the father?

07:04:48.580 Okay.

07:04:48.780 So then let's back up to the actual question because you're referring to the fact that you

07:04:51.960 don't want to date women who's actively having sex with other men at the same time as you.

07:04:57.140 We're referring to body count past.

07:04:59.580 Right.

07:04:59.980 But so that could be proxy for body count.

07:05:02.300 And so that's a different conversation though.

07:05:04.380 I mean, we can just.

07:05:05.080 Right.

07:05:05.280 Okay.

07:05:05.440 So a woman who's been celibate for a year and she's previously had, uh, let's say she

07:05:11.540 previously was promiscuous past.

07:05:14.600 One of the, one of the major principles in psychology is past behavior is a major predictor

07:05:19.680 for future behavior.

07:05:20.580 So somebody who's promiscuous is probably, and they've actually done studies on that.

07:05:24.380 Like cheaters that you just said that cheaters can change, right?

07:05:27.140 Yeah, sure.

07:05:28.000 Okay.

07:05:28.200 So then can't women change?

07:05:29.120 Yeah, they can't.

07:05:29.840 Yes.

07:05:30.100 A cheater can change, but I would still preclude a past cheater in terms of dating just because

07:05:36.580 somebody can do something doesn't mean I have to accept dating them.

07:05:39.840 Okay.

07:05:40.180 But in any case, I do want to finish off on the paternity uncertainty thing.

07:05:43.660 This is very, this is hardwired in.

07:05:46.900 So it's, I, even if it's just due to body count, a woman who has a promiscuous past, right?

07:05:52.140 Again, it could relate and it could be proxy for like a simultaneous degree of promiscuity,

07:05:58.300 right?

07:05:59.260 And so for this reason, if a woman is promiscuous, we can't make a determinant, like, uh, we can't

07:06:05.340 make a determination when it comes to paternity.

07:06:07.540 If she's been sleeping with a bunch of men, I still don't think that has anything to do

07:06:12.340 with the body count conversation.

07:06:13.640 So let's say a woman has a body count, a higher body count than you would like, but

07:06:20.160 she's not currently sleeping with any men and she hasn't for a year.

07:06:22.620 Now that's kind of where you started this.

07:06:24.240 Now, how do you feel?

07:06:25.120 Well, so what I'm trying to explain to you, well, I know, but you're avoiding the question

07:06:27.980 just like you told me I was doing.

07:06:29.000 Sure.

07:06:29.220 I'll answer the question, but you're trying to say like, oh, but body count, she's not

07:06:34.340 currently like, if it can be provable that she's not sleeping with anybody, it doesn't

07:06:38.540 matter because in terms of why it's evolutionarily hardwired into men, it doesn't, whether you

07:06:45.200 can intellectualize it a way or not is totally irrelevant, right?

07:06:49.720 So here's, here's how.

07:06:51.200 So if a woman is sleeping with a bunch of men, right, you cannot determine paternity

07:06:56.180 in that situation, right?

07:06:58.640 Without a paternity test.

07:06:59.180 What does paternity mean in that sentence?

07:07:01.520 Okay, but so DNA, DNA, being able to test for DNA came around in the 1980s.

07:07:07.000 That doesn't undo hundreds or tens of thousands.

07:07:10.760 So you're saying you can't undo hardwiring of men's brains?

07:07:14.540 No, it's hardwired.

07:07:16.220 Would you call the man promiscuous?

07:07:18.680 What do you mean?

07:07:18.980 Because he's already had his body count up and now he wants the virgin and to taint her?

07:07:22.680 Well, here's the difference, right?

07:07:22.900 So as a woman-

07:07:24.040 Tainted.

07:07:24.440 Here's the difference.

07:07:25.540 So if a man, if a man has 10 wives and he sleeps with all of them, you know who the

07:07:31.140 father is in each instance.

07:07:32.800 You know who the mother is in each instance.

07:07:35.380 If a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them, who's the father?

07:07:41.340 So the argument you're saying is you're hardwired to just have sex to produce a baby.

07:07:46.900 But a minute ago, you're referring to the fact that all you want to do is fuck women

07:07:51.380 with zero responsibility.

07:07:52.680 Like you don't actually always want the baby.

07:07:54.500 Your argument fails.

07:07:56.360 So yeah, why do you think people have sex drives?

07:07:59.860 Like what's the evolutionary reason?

07:08:01.260 No, I wasn't referring to that.

07:08:02.100 No, I'm talking about what they wanted for-

07:08:04.200 No, no, no.

07:08:04.560 What's the evolutionary reason?

07:08:06.100 In the forefront of your brain, why are you having sex?

07:08:09.680 Not in your subconscious, not in your hardwiring.

07:08:12.420 Why do you crave sex?

07:08:14.540 The feeling, yeah.

07:08:15.040 I'm actually, this is an interesting conversation.

07:08:16.700 I think that what occurs, I guess, in your subconscious actually has massive ram-

07:08:23.900 Like has massive influence on like, even if a man has no intention,

07:08:31.280 here, let me explain it like this.

07:08:32.820 Let's say a 19-year-old frat boy, he just wants to fuck a bunch of bitches, right?

07:08:37.580 He doesn't want to get any of them pregnant.

07:08:40.500 Why does he want to fuck a bunch of women?

07:08:43.400 Why?

07:08:43.500 Because it's in his hardwiring to procreate.

07:08:45.640 Like why are people sexually attracted?

07:08:48.900 Like why do people have sex drives?

07:08:52.900 Why are people sexually attracted to somebody else?

07:08:55.520 It's because of procreation.

07:08:57.080 Now, I agree with you that, for example, you can want to have sex for fun, for pleasure,

07:09:02.860 and you can have no intention of wanting to get her pregnant.

07:09:06.780 In fact, that's how a lot of people, most people when they have sex probably don't want

07:09:10.980 to get pregnant.

07:09:12.720 They don't intend to get pregnant.

07:09:14.860 But why do they want to have sex?

07:09:17.760 Hardwiring.

07:09:18.260 I'm not disagreeing with that.

07:09:19.200 But I'm referring to like, why do they want to actually have sex in that moment?

07:09:23.420 That's what I was referring to, not the hardwiring, not where it comes back to, because what you're

07:09:26.820 saying is like, you're, as men, you're only capable of behaving in a way that refers back

07:09:32.280 to your hardwiring.

07:09:33.840 Yes.

07:09:34.420 So you're saying that your behavior is excusable based on hardwiring.

07:09:39.420 That's like all those people you were talking about.

07:09:41.580 Men's behavior.

07:09:42.760 What do you mean men's behavior?

07:09:43.860 Well, let's say fucking a bunch of women, even though they want women to have a low body

07:09:48.340 count, is excusable because that's just because they're hardwiring.

07:09:52.240 Women control access to sex.

07:09:55.040 If a woman says no, then the man's not going to fuck.

07:09:57.460 Your understanding of my position or your premise is false.

07:10:00.880 I'm not in favor of male promiscuity.

07:10:03.220 I'm simply stating that if a man does have a high body count, there's nothing actually

07:10:08.700 wrong with him preferring to date a low body count or a virgin woman, despite him, I suppose,

07:10:13.860 contributing to a lack of women that he would find more desirable.

07:10:18.880 There's not anything.

07:10:20.160 I don't think it's hypocritical.

07:10:21.360 I don't think there's actually anything wrong with it.

07:10:23.580 So then women preferring to have specific things they want in a man.

07:10:28.740 But you were saying earlier they should broaden their horizons so that they're not single

07:10:33.660 forever.

07:10:34.380 So this is the same scenario.

07:10:36.000 You've lowered your amount of people, your fish in the sea, and that's acceptable.

07:10:40.740 But earlier you were both telling us all that it's kind of baffling to you that women

07:10:45.600 would have high standards for a minute if they would want them to follow up.

07:10:48.260 You were saying that earlier.

07:10:49.100 Yes, you was.

07:10:50.200 Yeah.

07:10:50.740 So Andrew was saying it.

07:10:53.000 I believe I said it.

07:10:54.740 That's not really-

07:10:55.440 You laughed out loud, actually, and made a mockery.

07:10:56.900 Right.

07:10:57.300 But that's not really an argument.

07:10:59.160 So what would be fair for you to bring that up would be-

07:11:02.160 Your face right now?

07:11:03.020 Exactly what I mean.

07:11:04.080 No matter what, I'm going to lose in his eyes.

07:11:06.060 Well, we're in the middle of- we're having a disagreement.

07:11:08.820 We're obvious.

07:11:09.360 A discussion.

07:11:10.400 Unless you want me- I'm not going to just cede the conversation because you want me to.

07:11:13.580 You just keep telling me that I'm wrong, so that's what I'm referring to.

07:11:15.500 Like, you decided that I am wrong.

07:11:17.160 So if I'm a promiscuous girl and I want a virgin guy, that's okay.

07:11:19.580 Hold on, hold on.

07:11:20.120 You got to let me address her point.

07:11:22.560 So those things were said previously in the conversation, but it's almost a total non-sequitur.

07:11:27.800 Guys, you guys got to be quiet, okay?

07:11:29.780 It's a total non-sequitur.

07:11:31.520 Total non-sequitur.

07:11:32.320 Because they don't equate.

07:11:33.040 They're not the same thing.

07:11:33.820 Well, so if, for example, the man with a high body count, his desire to have a low body count woman, he was severely struggling, perhaps even because of his own high body count.

07:11:47.060 If he was severely struggling to find or procure a low body count woman or a virgin woman, then we can have a conversation of, well, you're failing to get these women.

07:11:57.100 You should then lower your standards.

07:11:59.520 But that's- so it's just totally different.

07:12:03.360 Yeah.

07:12:04.300 It's evolutionary psychology.

07:12:06.640 That's what it is.

07:12:07.400 No, so we were having a discussion of, like, her standards were, like, really high.

07:12:12.240 And that it was laughable that women don't lower their standards when they can't find the person they're looking for.

07:12:16.840 But that's why men need to have a sex drive so that the-

07:12:19.960 Here.

07:12:20.640 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

07:12:21.820 My bad.

07:12:22.220 I was in the bathroom.

07:12:22.820 Okay, let me have the back and forth.

07:12:23.920 So, um, I don't think high body count men have trouble finding low body count women today.

07:12:32.800 I genuinely don't.

07:12:35.040 Because high body count men typically, in order for them to have gotten the high body count, they typically have to be attractive in one or more verticals.

07:12:42.920 So, either good looking, funny, status, rich, um, good personality, et cetera.

07:12:49.580 And women overwhelmingly seem to care not so much.

07:12:54.440 Like, they're much more forgiving of male promiscuity than the reverse.

07:12:57.860 So, I don't really find it to be a situation where low body count women or women in general disqualify men on the basis of having a high body count or past promiscuity.

07:13:10.860 No, but there would, like, statistically be much less women, right, available.

07:13:18.020 So, you're telling me that it's not hard to find them because they're easy to find, which means there's a lot of them.

07:13:22.100 But that wouldn't add up to your other argument.

07:13:24.540 Uh, no, I don't think, I don't really think necessarily.

07:13:27.520 I think there, there's, uh, while there, I suppose, in modern day, there's fewer or less low body count women.

07:13:35.820 Uh, I mean, there's, this is also, I think, defeated in so, like,

07:13:40.860 a man could just continue to date, like, 20-year-olds, 19-year-olds.

07:13:46.940 And, like, this is going to just be a way for him to, like, keep searching for low body count women.

07:13:52.980 If he's capable of getting them, of course.

07:13:55.360 May I ask a question?

07:13:56.400 Sure.

07:13:57.260 How, um, like, what's the limit for low body count?

07:14:00.720 Like, what does that mean?

07:14:01.440 Yeah.

07:14:01.880 What is low body count?

07:14:02.740 Like, is that, like, five?

07:14:03.960 Is it two?

07:14:04.860 Is it?

07:14:05.080 It depends on age.

07:14:06.200 Yeah, but what's your definition?

07:14:07.640 Give us examples.

07:14:08.520 Like, to give you a number?

07:14:09.660 Mm-hmm.

07:14:09.880 Uh, I would say, I would say over 10 is getting into high body count territory.

07:14:16.340 Okay.

07:14:16.680 Maybe, like, medium.

07:14:17.780 That's reasonable.

07:14:18.940 Uh, definitely over 20.

07:14:20.360 I think most men would tend to agree.

07:14:21.620 Like, over 20, certainly.

07:14:22.800 There's no arguments there.

07:14:24.760 Uh, but, uh, it depends on age, too.

07:14:28.180 Like, a woman who's, who's 30, uh, her body count being 10 versus, like, a woman who's 18,

07:14:34.960 her body count being 10.

07:14:36.300 Well, yeah.

07:14:37.260 And earlier, earlier we were talking about just, like, any sexual act, you want it to

07:14:41.260 go towards body count, right?

07:14:42.740 Andrew, Andrew said that.

07:14:43.460 Yeah.

07:14:43.580 I wouldn't, like, uh, I mean, I think a woman who's, like, given, like, 100 blowjobs but

07:14:50.780 had sex with two guys, like, that's probably different than a woman who's just had any kind

07:14:55.380 of sex with two men, including oral sex.

07:14:58.920 So, like, it would.

07:14:59.840 She could have oral herpes.

07:15:01.660 Yeah.

07:15:01.900 Sure.

07:15:02.200 That's true.

07:15:02.680 Well, yeah.

07:15:03.240 I guess I'm getting to that.

07:15:04.580 But, like, so, I mean, I mean, giving a bunch of dudes BJs but not, like, fucking them,

07:15:09.400 like, that's still within the realm of promiscuity.

07:15:11.900 So, like.

07:15:12.820 I know someone like that.

07:15:14.420 Yeah.

07:15:14.680 So, I mean, that's a fair point.

07:15:15.960 Maybe men need to ask BJ count, too.

07:15:17.740 Thank you.

07:15:18.160 I'm going to, I'm going to add that to my question.

07:15:20.100 Andrew counted it.

07:15:20.900 Okay, body count and BJ count, you know?

07:15:23.760 Andrew counted it.

07:15:24.920 And, uh, well, how about this?

07:15:26.220 I can't wait for the story times that end up on the internet due to the men asking this

07:15:29.120 on the first date.

07:15:29.700 That's going to give me joy.

07:15:32.120 Yo, I think it's valid.

07:15:33.520 Totally valid.

07:15:34.280 Okay, hold on.

07:15:35.320 So, going around the table, do you guys think, uh, do you think, or, well, hold on.

07:15:39.200 I'll just skip to, it's already in the prompt.

07:15:41.220 Uh, the statement is men are not insecure for caring about a woman's body count.

07:15:46.140 You disagree, Allie?

07:15:48.820 Rachel disagrees.

07:15:50.020 I think I disagree, too.

07:15:51.180 DJ disagrees.

07:15:52.780 I forget how this is working.

07:15:54.680 And, yeah, that's it.

07:15:56.440 Um, so, okay, you think men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count?

07:15:59.140 Why is that?

07:15:59.500 I don't think that it's, like, all men who want a lower body count.

07:16:04.200 It's due to insecurities.

07:16:05.400 But I think that, like, statistically, in studies I've seen, that is usually the reason in therapy

07:16:11.880 that they uncover that it's an insecurity about wanting to be the one that the woman wants.

07:16:17.340 Why would that actually be insecure?

07:16:19.120 Isn't that kind of, like, wholesome and beautiful?

07:16:21.900 I mean, I, I, I hear you.

07:16:23.820 I didn't do it, the study, so I can't give you exactly where it came from.

07:16:27.920 But I'm just saying, like, I, I think that...

07:16:31.320 Like, don't you want to be special to your partner?

07:16:34.760 No, I get what you're saying.

07:16:35.860 Like, what they're saying is, like, you're, you're incapable.

07:16:39.040 Like, the man is insinuating that he's not special because she's been with more women.

07:16:46.600 Because he's not.

07:16:47.660 Because she's been with more women.

07:16:48.820 Yeah, he's not special, though.

07:16:49.860 Like, let me ask you.

07:16:50.620 You, you date women, right?

07:16:51.580 And I don't know if this is different for, like, people who are bisexual or, or, sorry,

07:16:56.620 not for, bisexual or lesbians.

07:16:59.240 But, like, for example, for you, and you don't care about body count at all.

07:17:03.920 Like, if a woman had sexual...

07:17:06.680 How about if, would it matter, if a woman had, had sex with a thousand people, not an issue?

07:17:13.960 She's clean.

07:17:14.500 I mean, I'd be curious.

07:17:15.480 I mean, there's lots of questions that follow that.

07:17:17.140 Like, I have follow-up questions.

07:17:18.740 No, you'd be curious, but she's, say she's totally clean.

07:17:21.040 Like, it wouldn't even present, like, any issues.

07:17:23.180 I think that, like, when you get to a grand, I want to know how old she is.

07:17:26.720 And I want to, like, ask questions about the reason why.

07:17:29.280 You're 27, she's 30.

07:17:30.940 How about that?

07:17:31.460 That's what I'm saying.

07:17:31.940 Like, I would ask her, like, what the reasoning was.

07:17:34.220 If the reasoning was just because you're reckless,

07:17:35.720 then I probably wouldn't want to date you due to recklessness,

07:17:37.920 not because of your body count.

07:17:39.020 Yeah, but, like, sexual recklessness.

07:17:41.840 What do you mean?

07:17:43.300 Did you say sexual recklessness?

07:17:44.380 Sexual recklessness, yeah.

07:17:45.740 Yeah, that's a trauma response.

07:17:46.820 So, what if they were, like, a problem?

07:17:47.980 Yeah, that's true.

07:17:48.620 Like, if she chose to have sex with a thousand people just to do it,

07:17:55.140 or she was doing it for money, like, I have personal preferences

07:17:59.320 that would make me not want to date the person, not because of the number,

07:18:01.440 but because of the reasoning for the number.

07:18:03.140 Fair enough.

07:18:03.520 Um, guys, we're going to lower the TTS to $20 if you guys want to get them in.

07:18:09.440 We're going to do the roast session, then we're going to wrap up.

07:18:11.240 All right, I will respond to you, though.

07:18:12.640 Uh, going around, well, I mean, how about show of hands?

07:18:15.440 Who here thinks body count shouldn't matter?

07:18:18.720 Shouldn't matter.

07:18:20.040 Show of hands, going around the table, shouldn't matter.

07:18:21.660 I think there is a little degree, right?

07:18:23.340 Like, what you were saying, like, a thousand is, to a reasonable number.

07:18:26.520 But, like, really quick on the thousand example.

07:18:30.160 But, okay, when I say, when I think, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

07:18:33.380 Well, when I say, when people, when women say that body counts shouldn't change,

07:18:37.780 men think, immediately go to their head is, oh, you're worried about your body count,

07:18:41.540 or you don't want to say about your body count.

07:18:43.160 And you shared yours, so, like.

07:18:44.860 What, what, I want to say that.

07:18:45.920 No, I don't think she did.

07:18:46.480 Did you not?

07:18:47.100 No, he shared hers.

07:18:48.640 Oh, I thought someone else did.

07:18:49.420 I thought you did at the beginning.

07:18:50.360 I'm sorry.

07:18:51.180 No, I didn't.

07:18:52.320 But, like, if, with this woman, hypothetical, who does have, slept with a thousand people

07:18:57.980 before you, wouldn't it, wouldn't you feel, like, a little less special if you knew you

07:19:03.460 were a thousand and one?

07:19:05.300 No.

07:19:05.880 I think you're getting into, like, a limit.

07:19:08.140 Because I'm in, I'm, I'm right now.

07:19:10.200 I'm living in the present.

07:19:11.200 That's how, that's how I know I'm special.

07:19:13.220 I'm here.

07:19:14.120 Y'all ain't.

07:19:14.380 She didn't have it.

07:19:15.080 That's how I feel, too.

07:19:16.320 I feel like if he's with me now, that's all that matters.

07:19:18.180 That's all that matters.

07:19:19.260 That's literally, I'm, I'm the president.

07:19:20.660 Y'all are all in his past.

07:19:22.080 Why, I am not worried about any of y'all.

07:19:24.300 Mm-hmm.

07:19:25.600 Relevancy.

07:19:26.260 That is, yeah.

07:19:27.220 Relevancy.

07:19:27.820 Confidence.

07:19:28.680 So, I guess, once she's back, I'm going to ask a question, but I'm going to let a couple

07:19:32.200 chats come through.

07:19:33.500 Guys, TTS is now 20, but these came in a little bit earlier.

07:19:37.080 Michael Smith donated $99.99.

07:19:41.040 Thanks, Simon.

07:19:42.160 CH4, you could be happily married today if you didn't judge men the way you seem to judge

07:19:46.800 yourself.

07:19:48.440 CH7, Mythomaniac.

07:19:49.680 What is C?

07:19:50.260 Don't you all want a gender wage gap if you want men to make more than you?

07:19:55.320 He said that you would have been married by now.

07:19:57.580 He's saying-

07:19:57.880 Thank you, Michael Smith.

07:19:58.860 You would have been married by now if you didn't look down on yourself like you do.

07:20:03.820 Facts.

07:20:04.460 Facts.

07:20:04.820 I used to be morbidly obese, and I did have a low self-worth, and now that I lost weight,

07:20:11.320 I'm trying to get better, but it's hard, you know?

07:20:14.180 Because I still see myself as being close to 300 pounds.

07:20:17.500 Mm-hmm.

07:20:17.800 You know?

07:20:18.440 I know.

07:20:18.960 But I gotta realize that I'm 165.

07:20:23.640 You should, like, lay on a large, like, huge piece of paper and, like, trace yourself.

07:20:27.640 Yeah.

07:20:28.280 Yeah, I'm a hypocrite.

07:20:29.400 I'm a hypocrite because I tell women, you're beautiful just the way you are, and I'm looking

07:20:33.360 in the mirror, and I'm looking at my stretch marks, and I'm like, ah, I hate my body.

07:20:37.460 Yeah.

07:20:37.820 I gotta, I gotta love myself.

07:20:39.400 But stretch marks are also, it's also, like, a trophy.

07:20:41.860 Like, you gotta look at those stretch marks, like, like, that's an achievement.

07:20:45.640 Like, those are, those are proof that, like, you've done it.

07:20:48.740 Like, you made it.

07:20:49.340 So, don't look at those stretch marks as a, like, a problem.

07:20:53.320 It's honestly, it's really just, everyone has stretch marks, bro.

07:20:56.580 I am 100 pounds, and I have stretch marks.

07:20:59.240 Yes.

07:21:00.000 Thighs, boobs, people have them arms, like.

07:21:02.240 Nice.

07:21:02.920 I know that I have low self-confidence.

07:21:04.720 Yeah, we're so good people, huh?

07:21:06.200 And I'm, I'm working on it.

07:21:08.840 I gotta, I gotta work on it.

07:21:11.020 I know.

07:21:12.160 All right.

07:21:12.920 Um, I'm gonna let a couple more chats get through, guys.

07:21:15.480 $20 TTS.

07:21:16.700 Roast Session, Roast Session.

07:21:18.080 No factor.

07:21:19.140 Thank you, man.

07:21:19.620 Appreciate it.

07:21:19.960 If every woman in the U.S. said that women are being oppressed, yet every single one of

07:21:24.540 them said they personally were not oppressed, would that mean women are still being oppressed?

07:21:29.740 Cue for the panel.

07:21:31.880 That seems like basic math, so.

07:21:33.860 Would that mean they're still being oppressed?

07:21:35.460 No.

07:21:35.700 But we're not, we're not interviewing all women, so.

07:21:39.720 Vector, I do appreciate the TTS, man.

07:21:42.140 Thank you so much.

07:21:42.760 Appreciate it.

07:21:43.900 We have Michael Smith.

07:21:47.520 Thank you, Michael.

07:21:48.920 Michael Smith donated $99.99.

07:21:53.500 Make more money, but I hate the gender pay gap.

07:21:56.760 I can't find a man, but no one is good enough.

07:22:00.220 I want X, Y, Z, but how dare you want ABC?

07:22:02.740 Who's the oppressed?

07:22:04.800 Nothing but mythomaniacs with victim mindsets.

07:22:09.700 Mythomaniacs with victim mindsets.

07:22:11.240 I mean, those are all things that I didn't agree with, so I can't say much.

07:22:17.120 Oh, I don't think I was here when y'all talked about that, because I don't remember that word.

07:22:20.720 I still, I still, what does that mean?

07:22:22.060 What does that mean?

07:22:22.400 Your voice has kind of changed throughout the show.

07:22:25.780 Because I'm comfortable now.

07:22:26.900 Oh, you're comfortable.

07:22:27.760 Same.

07:22:28.060 I just can't take the trolls seriously.

07:22:30.280 These are the troll comments.

07:22:31.380 I can't take any of y'all serious.

07:22:33.360 Michael Smith, is it a troll comment?

07:22:35.800 I don't know.

07:22:37.300 All right.

07:22:38.240 So let's see here.

07:22:39.420 Guys, $20 TTS.

07:22:40.760 I'm pretty sure it's all set up to go.

07:22:42.800 We'll get those coming in here in just a sec.

07:22:44.800 I have a question for her once she's back.

07:22:47.860 We'll come back to the body count here in just a minute.

07:22:50.140 Nikki, so the final prompt.

07:22:53.000 Marriage is a bad deal for men.

07:22:54.620 You disagree.

07:22:56.120 You might be the only one who disagrees on this.

07:22:58.380 No, Milena disagreed.

07:22:59.680 I disagreed.

07:23:00.320 I think I did.

07:23:01.220 Yeah.

07:23:01.940 Sweet.

07:23:03.320 Finally got it right.

07:23:04.420 What was the question?

07:23:05.640 Marriage is a bad deal for men.

07:23:07.300 You disagree.

07:23:07.820 You disagree.

07:23:09.200 What do you mean by that?

07:23:11.060 The divorce laws need to be changed.

07:23:12.720 Just terrible.

07:23:13.220 Like they shouldn't?

07:23:14.180 Yeah.

07:23:14.480 I don't think men should get married, to be honest.

07:23:16.420 Really?

07:23:16.840 Well, then why should maybe save it for women, right?

07:23:19.460 Yeah, I agree.

07:23:20.320 I just feel like it's even.

07:23:21.080 I feel like even for a man that's traditional,

07:23:24.300 like why would it be bad if they, you know,

07:23:27.760 because they've got someone cooking and cleaning and fucking.

07:23:31.120 But so I think marriage is fine for like people who are religious

07:23:35.720 because, I mean, that's part of their religious values.

07:23:38.720 But even if you're a traditional man but you're not religious,

07:23:41.540 although some people would argue, well, if you're not religious,

07:23:44.500 are you really traditional?

07:23:45.280 But that's another conversation.

07:23:46.340 You said like, oh, the woman cooking, cleaning, what was the, sucking, fucking?

07:23:52.380 I don't know.

07:23:52.680 You said some shit.

07:23:53.840 I said fucking.

07:23:54.600 But like all that stuff, like pretty much.

07:23:58.200 I do when I date.

07:23:59.460 Yeah.

07:23:59.560 Yeah.

07:23:59.720 You can get all that outside of marriage.

07:24:01.820 Yeah, you can.

07:24:02.140 So do you believe in like long-term relationships but not married?

07:24:05.900 Yeah.

07:24:06.100 I mean, I prefer long-term relationships.

07:24:08.640 I prefer relationships.

07:24:09.460 I'm not interested in like having a bunch of casual sex with women.

07:24:12.960 Would you get married yourself?

07:24:14.320 No.

07:24:14.860 My mom doesn't benefit men in the modern age.

07:24:17.740 Sorry.

07:24:18.300 What was your question?

07:24:19.600 Is it just that you think like there's no point in it or?

07:24:23.360 I just, I don't know what I can get out of marriage that I can't get out of

07:24:27.680 like a monogamous long-term relationship.

07:24:29.680 That makes sense.

07:24:30.660 In fact, there's a lot of like negatives too.

07:24:33.200 Yeah.

07:24:33.740 I kind of agree, honestly.

07:24:35.780 Like just to, even if you stay with them the entire time and you never get

07:24:39.420 divorced, I mean, it just kind of, you have to get the marriage license.

07:24:43.020 It's just like.

07:24:43.720 Yeah.

07:24:43.900 And it's more expensive to get divorced than it is to get married.

07:24:46.140 And then if you get divorced, there's a lot of really.

07:24:48.620 When you change your last name, you have to like change your passport and your

07:24:52.020 ID.

07:24:52.640 It's for some people.

07:24:53.280 I think it's more risky for a successful man.

07:24:55.420 Yeah.

07:24:55.760 I don't see why a piece of paper has to define that on your end because they

07:24:59.220 could take everything off or try.

07:25:00.940 Let's say, even though, even if you both make the same amount of money, there's

07:25:05.060 still going to be like some, there could be some like disagreements over assets or even

07:25:10.200 if you make the exact same amount of money, it could be like, uh, it could be, uh, I

07:25:15.080 forgot the exact term, like friendly, amicable.

07:25:17.020 It could be amicable.

07:25:17.900 And you guys kind of just like, okay, we just want to get divorced.

07:25:20.320 We're not going to dispute really anything.

07:25:22.620 Um, but even if you do make the same money and it is amicable, you still need, like, you're

07:25:27.000 going to have to, you're both going to have to pay an attorney and that's going to

07:25:30.680 cost a lot of money.

07:25:32.140 Uh, you can technically do it without, but it's still money.

07:25:34.140 No, you can.

07:25:35.300 Well, like you can go like through the court, but it's still costs money.

07:25:38.000 I'm agreeing with you.

07:25:38.600 It's also like, you can do, you can do it yourself, but it's a complicated procedure.

07:25:43.340 So like most legal procedures, there are some things like, it's usually better to have an

07:25:47.560 attorney involved.

07:25:48.540 I just want to hear you.

07:25:49.280 It's like marriage is a contract.

07:25:50.600 I just want a cute wedding, but I guess you could do that without leaving.

07:25:53.360 Yeah.

07:25:54.220 Yeah.

07:25:54.720 I'll be your pastor.

07:25:55.440 I agree with what you're saying.

07:25:56.680 It's kind of pointless.

07:25:57.420 Yeah.

07:25:58.060 The marriage laws need to change because if one party benefits out of like, uh, what

07:26:05.360 is it called?

07:26:06.900 Out of, uh, sorry, I'm just drunk right now.

07:26:12.380 Um, yeah, out of breaking the contract, then that's not right.

07:26:19.080 Like, do you drink on the regular?

07:26:20.960 No, no, no.

07:26:22.040 When's the last time you drink?

07:26:22.520 She said she was only drinking because she was in California.

07:26:24.780 Oh, okay.

07:26:25.180 She said she's only drinking because she's in California.

07:26:27.620 Oh, shit.

07:26:28.240 Yeah.

07:26:29.060 Oh, shit.

07:26:29.800 I love that.

07:26:30.500 California crazy.

07:26:31.900 Going back to the body count thing, going around the table, uh, a lot of you said body

07:26:35.700 count doesn't matter, shouldn't matter, past doesn't matter.

07:26:38.360 What's your body count?

07:26:39.680 I'm not telling you what my body count is.

07:26:41.180 Thank you.

07:26:41.340 That's crazy and suspicious.

07:26:43.600 Get after it.

07:26:44.360 It's higher than you think it is.

07:26:45.460 What's your body count?

07:26:46.740 Um, I honestly don't keep track, but I would say it's probably like 15.

07:26:50.540 15?

07:26:51.080 Yeah.

07:26:51.360 BJ count?

07:26:52.980 What?

07:26:53.940 We're doing BJ count?

07:26:55.280 We're doing BJ count, too.

07:26:56.660 Um.

07:26:57.800 Because somebody gave me a good idea for that.

07:26:59.920 I mean, yeah, I feel like I would definitely, like, suck more than I'd fuck, so.

07:27:04.120 Wow, you're so romantic.

07:27:06.100 I don't know how to please my hand, but I feel like, yeah, I feel like maybe that would

07:27:08.700 be like 20.

07:27:09.720 20.

07:27:10.220 Okay.

07:27:10.460 Yeah.

07:27:10.680 All right.

07:27:11.140 I'm a giver.

07:27:12.240 Aw.

07:27:15.460 It depends on who you would ask, because, like, it depends on your definition of sex.

07:27:22.600 If I asked your father.

07:27:27.320 Zero.

07:27:28.040 Technic.

07:27:28.440 In his, in his view.

07:27:29.740 In his eye.

07:27:30.460 Oh, in his eye.

07:27:31.620 Nothing.

07:27:32.980 She's clean.

07:27:33.960 Clean slate.

07:27:34.380 Has he even dated a guy?

07:27:35.680 I need a father.

07:27:36.440 Exactly.

07:27:37.800 Oh, no, he doesn't, he probably wouldn't consider that to be the act, so that's what I mean.

07:27:43.200 It depends.

07:27:43.960 So, how about your own sense of the, what is the body count?

07:27:49.760 Eight.

07:27:50.980 Eight?

07:27:51.440 Yes.

07:27:51.720 My dad walked in all the ones.

07:27:53.000 All women?

07:27:53.640 Yes.

07:27:54.200 Okay.

07:27:54.440 Carl.

07:27:55.600 Uh, Cass.

07:27:56.700 She can go.

07:27:57.540 Cass, what about, no, no, no.

07:27:58.900 Come on, Cass.

07:27:59.380 Cass, come on, you got that liquid courage.

07:28:01.360 Consensual body count.

07:28:02.820 Yes, consensual.

07:28:04.520 Wait, zero.

07:28:06.000 Oh, my God.

07:28:06.580 Zero, but BJ count, seven.

07:28:09.760 Good job.

07:28:10.540 Congratulations, girl.

07:28:12.180 Good for you.

07:28:12.760 Wait, zero?

07:28:14.200 Body count, zero.

07:28:15.500 BJ count, seven.

07:28:17.080 Okay, all right.

07:28:17.960 In case I needed to add my BJ count.

07:28:19.020 I didn't know that we were doing BJ count.

07:28:21.960 What's your cunnilingus count?

07:28:25.940 I like that word.

07:28:27.000 What did you say?

07:28:28.440 I would have considered that in the eight, because, like, the lines kind of blur in lesbianism.

07:28:34.760 When you buy your dick, it gets a little complicated.

07:28:39.520 Exactly.

07:28:39.960 You get to choose your own adventure.

07:28:41.580 Okay.

07:28:42.020 All right.

07:28:43.420 DJ, what's up?

07:28:44.680 Body count?

07:28:46.340 Mine is 12.

07:28:48.540 Okay.

07:28:49.280 BJ count?

07:28:50.700 12.

07:28:52.500 I can't believe we're doing BJ count.

07:28:54.500 Everyone I slept with, it always started that way, so it's the same.

07:28:58.200 You're a fucking liar.

07:28:59.600 You're a fucking liar.

07:29:01.340 No, I'm not.

07:29:02.940 Melina.

07:29:03.980 I don't feel comfortable with her.

07:29:04.840 Come, Melina.

07:29:06.520 I honestly don't care.

07:29:07.720 Melina.

07:29:08.480 Especially because I was blacked out on Xanax for a lot.

07:29:11.740 Didn't you just raise your hand and say body count doesn't matter?

07:29:15.080 Wait, are we talking about different people or with the same person?

07:29:18.000 I don't care what a guy's body count is.

07:29:20.280 But she doesn't feel the need to disclose hers.

07:29:21.840 Different people.

07:29:22.440 I don't want the world.

07:29:22.900 It's different people.

07:29:23.560 Yes.

07:29:24.000 Also, like, hers is related to, like, trauma and shit, so.

07:29:26.420 Oh.

07:29:27.160 Wait, you're.

07:29:27.700 I'm not worried about it.

07:29:28.760 BJ count.

07:29:29.600 No, it's not the number of times.

07:29:31.540 Thank you.

07:29:32.040 Given a BJ.

07:29:32.980 With different people.

07:29:34.460 With different people.

07:29:35.460 Yeah.

07:29:35.880 Three times.

07:29:36.680 Oh, okay.

07:29:37.220 All right, cool.

07:29:38.340 So, how about, do you want to do range?

07:29:41.760 Range?

07:29:42.200 No, thanks.

07:29:42.700 Give us a range.

07:29:43.500 No.

07:29:44.260 Give me the satisfaction?

07:29:45.280 Absolutely not.

07:29:46.520 It's not for my satisfaction.

07:29:47.440 It totally is.

07:29:48.300 I'm not going to be, oh, satisfied.

07:29:50.060 Oh, I'm so satisfied.

07:29:50.660 No, you'd be satisfied.

07:29:51.860 I simply only said it because body counts do not matter.

07:29:55.180 You're going to be attracted to me or you're not going to be attracted to me.

07:29:57.680 So, if you don't attract it to me because without my body count.

07:30:00.220 Like, that's sad.

07:30:01.240 What about you?

07:30:03.500 What about you?

07:30:04.260 I don't keep track.

07:30:06.180 I know mine's high, but most of it's from many years ago, not recent.

07:30:10.640 I definitely keep track.

07:30:11.980 Which, I know some people are going to say, like, oh, that doesn't make a difference.

07:30:14.960 I think it makes a difference.

07:30:18.420 That is a fair.

07:30:19.700 So, you lost track?

07:30:21.080 Yeah.

07:30:21.540 I lost track.

07:30:24.060 How about an estimate?

07:30:26.760 A lot.

07:30:28.360 A lot.

07:30:29.040 But, again, most of it's from years ago.

07:30:31.300 The BJs were people that I was dating.

07:30:34.960 Cass, chill out.

07:30:36.260 I love her.

07:30:37.340 Cass.

07:30:38.040 Wait for the ass.

07:30:38.740 I love you.

07:30:39.220 She's trying to clear her name.

07:30:40.780 This whole time.

07:30:42.020 It all happened.

07:30:42.960 I was taken.

07:30:44.000 She's just been thinking about the BJs.

07:30:45.800 I'm like, oh, the BJs.

07:30:47.780 I got to tell them about all the BJs.

07:30:50.240 I got to tell them.

07:30:51.440 That's what she's hyper fixating on.

07:30:53.520 She's got Asperger's, remember?

07:30:55.340 She, that's your thing.

07:30:57.600 Like, you hyper focus.

07:30:59.120 Hyper fixating.

07:30:59.600 F you, Brian.

07:31:01.560 No.

07:31:02.040 Because, like, honestly, yes.

07:31:03.480 If you're going to do a job, you have to do it well.

07:31:05.400 There you go.

07:31:06.100 Yeah.

07:31:06.680 There you go.

07:31:07.540 Yeah.

07:31:08.160 Yeah.

07:31:08.480 Give it your all.

07:31:11.280 I'll to the next one.

07:31:11.800 You got to give those.

07:31:13.040 Give it your all.

07:31:14.240 She's like, moving on, moving on.

07:31:15.440 She's the best.

07:31:16.000 She's an F you, Brian.

07:31:18.400 Over 50?

07:31:21.300 I don't think that high.

07:31:24.200 Okay.

07:31:25.320 But how about 40?

07:31:28.820 I don't even know.

07:31:29.880 Like I said, I don't keep track.

07:31:31.260 Like, I've never kept track.

07:31:32.680 I keep a list on my phone.

07:31:34.540 Yeah.

07:31:35.020 I've never kept track.

07:31:35.760 I wish I did.

07:31:36.360 You have a list?

07:31:36.940 Yeah.

07:31:37.080 Do you have someone who's, like, designated to get rid of that list when you die?

07:31:40.420 No.

07:31:40.760 You should do that.

07:31:41.720 Someone post it.

07:31:42.700 If I die, post it.

07:31:43.580 I got you.

07:31:44.300 Post it.

07:31:44.860 I got you.

07:31:46.460 What do I have?

07:31:47.300 Names, addresses.

07:31:48.240 I have not kept track, and I do not know.

07:31:50.880 More than 10?

07:31:51.960 Yes.

07:31:52.460 More than 20?

07:31:53.460 Probably.

07:31:53.920 More than 30?

07:31:54.900 No.

07:31:55.260 More than 30?

07:31:55.600 Probably at least, like, 30, 35.

07:31:57.440 Okay.

07:31:58.700 I don't know.

07:31:59.560 There's a lot of times that I also, as well, I went through addiction in 2022, and so that's

07:32:04.340 when I was, like, crazy.

07:32:06.740 Yeah, and that's the thing.

07:32:07.800 I think people go through phases, too.

07:32:09.360 It's, like, someone who maybe had, like, a hoe phase years ago.

07:32:13.640 Guys, stop laughing.

07:32:15.060 Yeah.

07:32:15.300 Why does your security laugh every time she talks?

07:32:17.900 Because.

07:32:18.220 No.

07:32:19.340 I feel like we should get, did you tell us what your body count is yet?

07:32:27.000 Because we're going around.

07:32:27.880 Hey, we are going around.

07:32:28.720 Yeah.

07:32:28.900 He's next.

07:32:29.300 He's next.

07:32:30.180 Oh, we're going around.

07:32:30.780 He's going to leave us hanging around.

07:32:31.660 We're going around.

07:32:32.360 I'm going around.

07:32:33.440 Going back.

07:32:34.020 I'm going around.

07:32:35.220 Around the question.

07:32:37.820 Real smooth.

07:32:38.500 Oh, wait.

07:32:38.600 So, sorry.

07:32:40.740 Please excuse my very rude security guard and producer for cracking up at.

07:32:48.280 They're just jokesters.

07:32:49.520 Okay?

07:32:49.660 They're little giggly schoolgirls back there.

07:32:53.320 Disregard.

07:32:53.920 They're laughing.

07:32:55.680 What were you saying before they so rudely interrupted you, Damien, and the double Ds back there?

07:33:05.880 Yeah.

07:33:06.160 I was saying that I think it's different if someone maybe went through a phase when they were going through something,

07:33:10.920 but it was a long time ago, versus if they're still doing it now.

07:33:14.520 You know what I mean?

07:33:15.900 Yeah.

07:33:16.160 And the people that are, like, experienced college and stuff.

07:33:19.660 I know what you guys are laughing at.

07:33:22.440 I don't know.

07:33:22.800 You guys keep, she looks at me.

07:33:24.740 I know, because I, yes, I know what you're laughing at.

07:33:26.640 She keeps, what?

07:33:29.980 Chill out, bro.

07:33:30.980 Chill.

07:33:33.040 But, like, when people experience college, I feel like that's when people, like, their body counts go crazy.

07:33:37.180 Like, when people experience college.

07:33:38.920 You've been to a couple colleges, right?

07:33:40.540 No, I've never been to college.

07:33:41.460 Oh, my bad.

07:33:41.960 But I've been to college parties.

07:33:43.120 I've seen some shit.

07:33:43.920 She's been, she's seen some shit.

07:33:46.340 I think we're all waiting for your answer.

07:33:47.680 Oh, yeah.

07:33:48.140 I'm God.

07:33:48.400 Wait, so, hold on.

07:33:51.280 Well, hold on.

07:33:51.780 You didn't answer.

07:33:52.440 Go ahead, answer.

07:33:53.240 I wanted to see if you were willing.

07:33:54.500 If you answer, I will.

07:33:55.420 Yeah.

07:33:56.120 Uh-uh-uh.

07:33:56.760 It's reasonable.

07:33:58.040 Well, did you answer, uh-uh-uh.

07:34:00.900 I want to make it clear that I don't sleep around now that I'm sober.

07:34:04.120 Sure.

07:34:05.820 I'm not, not yet.

07:34:07.180 Jay.

07:34:07.720 Jay.

07:34:08.220 Love a girl now.

07:34:08.900 What is it?

07:34:09.300 What is it?

07:34:09.720 Give us the number.

07:34:10.680 I don't know.

07:34:11.300 I don't keep track.

07:34:12.260 Just say a rand.

07:34:13.360 Just say a number.

07:34:15.040 One million.

07:34:16.440 One million and-

07:34:17.960 She gave a number.

07:34:18.460 You're turning it up.

07:34:20.340 You said just say a number.

07:34:21.620 I'm going to go with a million.

07:34:23.100 Okay.

07:34:23.480 Damn, girl.

07:34:25.100 It's definitely not that.

07:34:26.060 I mean, she's a 10.

07:34:26.860 She's a 10 after all.

07:34:27.820 So, I mean, like, it's-

07:34:28.660 Yeah.

07:34:28.680 Right?

07:34:29.460 Yes.

07:34:30.040 When you're a 10, like, shit.

07:34:31.000 And I'm also the oldest one on here, so-

07:34:34.340 I'm agreeing with you.

07:34:36.780 I'm the oldest one on here.

07:34:38.180 Of course mine will be the highest, maybe.

07:34:41.040 Yeah.

07:34:41.500 I was trying to make a joke there.

07:34:42.560 Yeah, I get it.

07:34:44.100 And that's why I was like, nah, nah, nah, nah.

07:34:46.680 So, I don't reveal my body count.

07:34:50.120 Sorry.

07:34:51.240 Okay.

07:34:51.980 Okay.

07:34:52.500 But I will make you-

07:34:53.900 Can I guess it?

07:34:54.840 I will make you and you a deal.

07:34:57.020 If you do reveal your true body count.

07:34:58.940 A $2 bill?

07:34:59.720 A $2 bill?

07:35:00.760 A $2 bill?

07:35:01.440 I can go just exchange my money at a bank for a bunch of $2 bills, so I will politely.

07:35:05.900 I'll pass.

07:35:06.620 Politely.

07:35:07.020 Politely?

07:35:07.440 I'll politely pass.

07:35:08.520 You do do.

07:35:09.620 Thanks.

07:35:12.100 Milena, do you accept?

07:35:13.620 You'll pass.

07:35:14.300 Do you know how much this is worth?

07:35:15.740 Yes.

07:35:16.080 Do you guys not know?

07:35:17.200 Like, I-

07:35:17.620 It has a green-

07:35:18.180 My mom collects those.

07:35:19.080 I know those.

07:35:19.520 Do you know how much this is worth?

07:35:20.960 It has a green stamp, not a red one.

07:35:21.840 But it's not worth shit.

07:35:22.580 $2.

07:35:23.780 Do you know how much this is worth?

07:35:25.240 Well, yeah.

07:35:25.800 They cost $2.

07:35:26.520 The $2 bill in general costs something.

07:35:28.400 Y'all crazy.

07:35:28.640 But if the stamps, yes, they mean something.

07:35:30.240 You can cost more.

07:35:30.920 Ridiculous.

07:35:32.080 Ridiculous.

07:35:32.380 It's called bait.

07:35:33.580 Ridiculous.

07:35:33.920 You could get that for like, what is it, like $60?

07:35:36.900 We're going to let some of the-

07:35:38.080 For a $2 bill?

07:35:38.940 No.

07:35:39.260 That one.

07:35:40.640 Look, whatever the body counts are.

07:35:42.220 Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.

07:35:43.720 That's the real number.

07:35:44.380 Okay.

07:35:44.920 All right.

07:35:45.400 I'm going to let some of the roasts come through.

07:35:46.760 Roast session, boys.

07:35:47.880 $20 TTIs.

07:35:48.660 The investor donated $20.

07:35:50.880 I once opened my third eye and saw Humpty Dumpty on the wall, and his face looked like

07:35:55.740 Brian Atlas.

07:35:56.940 I tried to tell him he would fall, but it was too late.

07:36:00.460 He fell.

07:36:01.540 Never opening that crap again.

07:36:04.020 Wait, what?

07:36:05.000 The Broski donated $20.

07:36:07.500 What?

07:36:07.900 Brian, you mentioned that one girl who wanted to smash hundreds of dudes in one day was

07:36:12.840 going to go on the show.

07:36:14.120 Yeah.

07:36:14.460 What happened to that?

07:36:15.700 I remember that girl.

07:36:16.300 She was going to come on, I think, on the episode with Bevo's girlfriend, but she flaked.

07:36:23.700 There's like two or three different Australian girls who, I think it's an act.

07:36:29.480 I don't actually think, maybe they did it, but I think they're just doing it for flicks.

07:36:36.120 People just say outlandish shit that's not true, just for whatever.

07:36:40.200 But I don't think she's coming on.

07:36:41.580 No.

07:36:41.840 Daryl underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.

07:36:49.480 Chair one is a rolling contradiction.

07:36:51.900 Thank God she's a rug muncher.

07:36:54.060 She shouldn't reproduce.

07:36:55.240 What the fuck, Frank?

07:36:55.840 No.

07:36:56.740 Which one?

07:36:58.200 Oh my goodness.

07:37:00.360 Chill out, Frank.

07:37:00.900 That's a good thing all I do is munch carpet because I shouldn't reproduce.

07:37:04.600 That's fucked up.

07:37:05.400 It's the roast on you, boo.

07:37:06.240 I don't want to reproduce any.

07:37:07.240 It is the roast.

07:37:08.300 It's the roast section, you know.

07:37:09.820 My DNA is ass.

07:37:11.100 I don't need to be making itty babies orders.

07:37:13.340 I'm good.

07:37:13.840 Itty babies.

07:37:14.960 Itty babies.

07:37:16.180 Here we go.

07:37:17.020 Oh, ready for this one?

07:37:18.040 Share five?

07:37:18.640 Daryl underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.

07:37:23.900 Chair number five.

07:37:25.020 We're still wondering about Mexican men.

07:37:28.280 Is it they're like Speedy Gonzales?

07:37:30.640 You need a Puerto Rican baby.

07:37:33.200 I can be fix you.

07:37:36.680 We're forgetting about that.

07:37:38.340 We're just going to leave it alone.

07:37:39.740 Actually, it was not a true story.

07:37:41.400 Lulu donated $20.

07:37:43.160 Chair one admitted that her family are grapists but won't disclose her body count.

07:37:48.580 Make it make sense.

07:37:50.260 Oh, no.

07:37:51.720 Dude.

07:37:52.360 That's a lot of it.

07:37:53.500 If it's not consensual, you don't, it doesn't count.

07:37:56.280 O.J. Simpson donated $20.

07:37:58.140 O.J. Simpson.

07:37:59.080 Raise your right hand if you have tried a gnoll.

07:38:01.700 Now raise your left hand if you enjoyed it.

07:38:04.720 Thank you in advance.

07:38:06.340 Wait, what?

07:38:07.220 What is a gnoll?

07:38:09.080 A gnoll.

07:38:10.260 Oh.

07:38:11.260 I did not enjoy it.

07:38:12.900 No.

07:38:14.160 What is it?

07:38:14.940 Just kidding.

07:38:15.540 Really?

07:38:16.260 That's the only one to the hands of my room.

07:38:18.080 Raise the roof.

07:38:19.780 Some girls prefer it.

07:38:21.660 I don't prefer it.

07:38:22.320 I'm really messed up.

07:38:23.200 I enjoy it, but I don't prefer it.

07:38:24.360 Only when I'm very drunk.

07:38:26.520 Uh.

07:38:27.120 Oh, eww.

07:38:28.360 This is for you.

07:38:29.080 Jack underscore M donated $20.

07:38:32.080 Chair number one.

07:38:33.280 In all seriousness, most men take offense to being called cis male but won't say it unless pressed, especially closer friends.

07:38:41.520 Try to get outside of your close friend zone and ask around.

07:38:45.120 I mean, I don't typically go around calling people cis, just to call them cis.

07:38:49.720 Yeah.

07:38:50.340 Cis.

07:38:50.640 Deeply hurt.

07:38:51.540 Deeply hurt by this.

07:38:52.860 We have Daniel here.

07:38:53.860 This one's kind of funky, but chill out, Daniel.

07:38:56.500 Daniel Nosseri donated $20.

07:38:59.240 These chicks are masters at opening the third eye.

07:39:02.300 By third eye, I mean men's rainbows hole-blasting spunk all over their foreheads.

07:39:08.520 What?

07:39:09.640 Oh, it changed penis to rainbow.

07:39:13.360 Sorry, it changes it now.

07:39:15.120 I was confused.

07:39:15.460 I'm so confused.

07:39:18.740 Otis Stritwood donated $20.

07:39:21.640 Chair one, did you roll out of bed with that hair, or did it take tireless seconds to color?

07:39:26.440 I actually, it's a condition.

07:39:32.660 It's fake.

07:39:34.060 I'm kidding.

07:39:35.720 I believe that.

07:39:37.580 Nice.

07:39:39.320 Oh, okay.

07:39:40.320 Here's what we have to do.

07:39:41.940 We have to do a segment called taking off all your makeup.

07:39:47.500 So we have-

07:39:48.080 Oh, yay.

07:39:49.200 Yay.

07:39:50.080 I don't mind.

07:39:50.740 End of the show.

07:39:51.500 I literally came here after the airport.

07:39:54.400 Why would I have right through that screen, y'all?

07:39:58.740 If you can pass some of these around, I mean, if you're going to take your makeup off.

07:40:04.100 This is so funny.

07:40:04.920 Any makeup?

07:40:06.220 I mean, I will go take it off in the bathroom, but I know I'll just get roasted for this now.

07:40:10.360 I am allergic to those, so unless you want me to have-

07:40:12.560 After this, I'm going to go hang out with some peoples.

07:40:14.800 I can't take off my makeup right now.

07:40:16.860 Say, also, like, I don't really have-

07:40:17.800 Oh, and you got to leave the fake lashes on the table.

07:40:20.020 I can't.

07:40:20.380 No, these are eyelash extensions.

07:40:21.520 I can't take them off.

07:40:22.100 Oh, okay.

07:40:22.440 Yeah.

07:40:22.960 Sure.

07:40:23.220 You're so funny, I'm actually, like, moving a little bit.

07:40:25.920 It's just really mascara, so.

07:40:28.100 Same.

07:40:28.900 I have on Dollar Tree makeup.

07:40:30.380 Oh, wait, I have contacts on.

07:40:31.520 I'm going to have to be careful.

07:40:32.300 They're the same.

07:40:33.600 Yeah, but people can't do it.

07:40:34.580 If you're, like, a tiny amount of mascara, just pinch.

07:40:36.180 Yeah.

07:40:36.500 Thank you.

07:40:37.220 That's kind of the goal.

07:40:37.940 Wait, is this, like-

07:40:38.560 I'll take it back.

07:40:39.400 I don't take it back.

07:40:39.640 Yeah, I've got some concealer on, but-

07:40:41.640 All right, boys, they're taking off the makeup.

07:40:43.000 Yeah.

07:40:44.120 Back by popular demand.

07:40:46.420 Do you want me to see a second?

07:40:47.340 Should we do it on a mirror so I can see it?

07:40:51.000 Do it.

07:40:51.780 Oh, it's not her preferred brand of-

07:40:54.260 She's very picky.

07:40:55.120 I don't like using these.

07:40:55.680 She's very picky.

07:40:56.560 I know.

07:40:56.940 I don't know if that one's a whole time.

07:40:58.000 I just want to know what it is.

07:40:59.340 Is this enough to-

07:41:00.200 I know.

07:41:00.440 I'll share standards.

07:41:01.420 I'll take that off.

07:41:02.060 All right.

07:41:02.440 Yeah, totally.

07:41:02.760 All right, Anissa.

07:41:03.640 Do you want to do that?

07:41:04.680 I think this is out.

07:41:05.280 To make-up wife companies, they should smell better.

07:41:08.620 Just saying.

07:41:09.660 I literally left this morning to come to California.

07:41:13.620 Yeah.

07:41:13.900 Like, I've been just on a plane all day, and then I came from the plane here.

07:41:17.420 I probably look tired.

07:41:18.840 John Veliquet says-

07:41:24.180 He's like, oh, my friends are here.

07:41:25.780 Hold on.

07:41:26.320 John Veliquet says, calling you the hofes will not be a good justification on the day of judgment.

07:41:31.940 It's giving in to the nature we received from Adam.

07:41:34.620 Turn to Jesus Christ for remission of sin.

07:41:37.600 Be born again.

07:41:38.780 Me and Jesus are really close, actually.

07:41:40.780 The time to repent is almost over.

07:41:43.020 I actually just called out to him.

07:41:44.280 I mean, it's been a while.

07:41:50.480 Thank you, John.

07:41:50.960 Appreciate it.

07:41:51.320 For anything for me.

07:41:51.600 Thank you, thank you, John.

07:41:52.400 Thank you, thank you.

07:41:53.700 W's in the chat for John.

07:41:55.180 Appreciate it, guys.

07:41:55.660 Okay, I need it.

07:41:56.420 Guys, last call on the $20 TTS if you want to get it in.

07:42:00.520 Final call.

07:42:01.340 Final call if you guys want to get one in.

07:42:03.200 Thank you guys for watching.

07:42:04.620 Oh, my God, dude.

07:42:05.260 I'm exploring my story.

07:42:05.940 Oh, we need to do the bow video, and then that's it.

07:42:08.620 Well, that's the last thing we're going to do.

07:42:09.580 This is definitely going to catch up to me in the future.

07:42:11.200 Oh, my contact's coming out.

07:42:12.240 If you want to get that pulled out.

07:42:13.160 Oh, before that video, can you pull the switch?

07:42:14.580 Your eye is so red.

07:42:15.200 Always.

07:42:15.940 Really?

07:42:16.360 Yeah, your left eye, like, oh, no.

07:42:18.080 Just, like, so I can see.

07:42:20.000 It, like, hurts, like, um.

07:42:22.080 I don't like my eyes like that.

07:42:23.340 Yeah, it's coconut oil.

07:42:24.280 What you're looking for?

07:42:25.100 Yeah, he's oil.

07:42:25.420 What you're looking for in there?

07:42:26.240 Just make up salt.

07:42:27.220 I want my mirror because I have to go somewhere after this,

07:42:29.860 so I take up my foundation, but.

07:42:31.580 Okay, just don't do it.

07:42:32.540 It's fine.

07:42:33.000 It's okay.

07:42:34.060 It's all right.

07:42:34.560 I'll give you the pass.

07:42:35.520 Okay, Cass?

07:42:36.280 Thank you.

07:42:36.860 I'll give Cass the pass.

07:42:38.320 I'm wearing Dollar Tree makeup that I put on on the plane,

07:42:41.580 so it's probably not even that.

07:42:42.780 It's like a shade.

07:42:43.820 It's not even my right shade, so whatever.

07:42:46.960 Oh, my God.

07:42:47.900 Who the hell cares?

07:42:50.280 Who the hell cares?

07:42:52.420 Nobody.

07:42:53.260 All right, guys.

07:42:53.760 Go to Twitch.tv.

07:42:54.920 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

07:42:56.560 Drop us a Prime sub and a follow.

07:42:58.960 Guys, before the end of the stream, there's 1,000 of you on Twitch.

07:43:02.780 There's 5,000 of you still watching on YouTube.

07:43:06.240 Guys, we're like 35 away, 35 followers away.

07:43:10.060 Get us to 97,500 followers.

07:43:13.080 Drop us a follow, guys.

07:43:14.500 Also, check if you have a Prime sub available.

07:43:16.580 If you link your Amazon Prime account to Twitch,

07:43:18.700 you can support the show essentially for free.

07:43:20.860 Oh, there's Prime.

07:43:20.880 There's a thousand.

07:43:21.380 Because you already have the Prime.

07:43:23.180 Every single month, drop us a Prime sub.

07:43:24.980 Check if you have a Prime sub available.

07:43:26.720 Quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.

07:43:29.380 Guys, final call on the TTS.

07:43:31.600 That's streamlabs.com slash whatever.

07:43:34.000 Streamlabs.com slash whatever.

07:43:35.760 Appreciate all the support, guys.

07:43:37.420 And then we're going to let these come in.

07:43:39.300 Then we'll do the bow video.

07:43:40.740 Big Atlas donated $20.

07:43:42.660 Thank you, man.

07:43:43.280 Peter Pan Hobgoblin looking for SS Chair 1.

07:43:46.580 How does it feel to roll or walk about in the liveryhood

07:43:49.980 that male privilege affords you feel?

07:43:52.580 Oppressed much?

07:43:53.480 Literally, it jumbled the words so hard,

07:43:57.580 now I have to reread it.

07:43:58.620 This voice thing is rough.

07:44:00.120 Can you put it up again?

07:44:00.920 You want it again?

07:44:02.160 You want it again?

07:44:02.900 I mean, sure.

07:44:03.500 Have a...

07:44:03.660 Big Atlas donated $20.

07:44:06.220 Peter Pan Hobgoblin looking for SS Chair 1.

07:44:10.200 How does it feel to roll or walk about in the liveryhood

07:44:13.280 that male privilege affords you feel?

07:44:15.880 Oppressed much?

07:44:17.140 Oppressed much?

07:44:17.920 Oh, yeah.

07:44:19.160 I don't think I've said anything about being oppressed.

07:44:21.480 Really quick, before we get into the rest of them,

07:44:23.740 can I have all of you...

07:44:25.080 You're all done with the makeup stuff.

07:44:27.000 Can I have...

07:44:28.120 Wait, did you...

07:44:29.040 No, I'm not.

07:44:29.660 No.

07:44:30.080 I'm doing it when I get home.

07:44:31.480 Hey, take it off.

07:44:32.280 You're a 10.

07:44:33.160 I want a...

07:44:33.720 Yeah, you're a 10.

07:44:34.560 You're a 10.

07:44:35.120 Take it off.

07:44:35.600 Take it off.

07:44:36.120 Take it off.

07:44:36.320 I want to use my mirror when I get home.

07:44:37.740 She doesn't miss anything.

07:44:38.700 All I'm hiding in are dark circles under my eyes from not sleeping.

07:44:42.620 No, she said when she wakes up, you're nine.

07:44:44.480 Yeah.

07:44:45.260 Oh, my gosh.

07:44:45.820 You took it off.

07:44:46.460 You look so good.

07:44:47.720 Oh, thank you.

07:44:48.380 Oh, here's what I want you guys to do.

07:44:49.680 Those of you who took your makeup off,

07:44:51.380 just hold it up to the camera so we can see the damage.

07:44:56.300 Wait.

07:44:56.780 I don't wear a concealer on my eyes.

07:44:58.320 I don't wear a concealer.

07:44:59.140 I was just having it.

07:44:59.600 Hold it up.

07:45:00.440 Hold it up.

07:45:01.480 Hold it up.

07:45:02.200 There it is.

07:45:03.040 There it is.

07:45:03.880 Okay.

07:45:04.160 Just mascara.

07:45:04.720 There you go.

07:45:05.360 Wow, that's good.

07:45:07.760 All right.

07:45:08.180 I mean, you left a little bit on, but, you know, whatever.

07:45:11.480 Is it bad?

07:45:13.020 I mean, no.

07:45:13.260 You're beautiful.

07:45:14.400 You don't need makeup.

07:45:16.100 Thank you.

07:45:16.320 Is there more on?

07:45:17.400 Where?

07:45:17.780 Did I miss a spot?

07:45:18.440 I don't think so.

07:45:19.080 No?

07:45:19.320 No, she has really great skin.

07:45:21.520 Yeah.

07:45:22.040 Oh, no.

07:45:22.280 I meant like a...

07:45:23.200 Whatever.

07:45:24.300 No, it's good.

07:45:24.660 You're good.

07:45:25.040 You're good.

07:45:25.300 You're chilling.

07:45:25.760 It's all good.

07:45:26.180 It's all good.

07:45:27.560 Brian, if I didn't have anywhere to go after this,

07:45:29.080 I would take off my makeup,

07:45:30.280 but I have to go somewhere after this.

07:45:32.740 The hot date?

07:45:34.080 Oh.

07:45:34.300 You're going to hit?

07:45:34.920 I'm going to go hang out with this chick

07:45:36.780 that was on the show called Instant Star.

07:45:39.900 I hope you have a good time.

07:45:41.280 Okay, cool.

07:45:42.840 Let's see.

07:45:43.420 We have a few chats coming through here.

07:45:45.100 Big Sass Energy donated $20.

07:45:46.980 Thank you, bro.

07:45:47.580 Good to see you in the chat.

07:45:48.320 If a time portal opened above Seattle

07:45:49.980 and time warped the entire populace back to the medieval times,

07:45:54.700 chair one is the aggregated caricature of the result.

07:45:58.040 Whoa.

07:45:58.500 Thank you.

07:45:58.860 That was like some Shakespeare.

07:46:00.100 Yo, Big Sass Energy, guys.

07:46:01.440 That was Shakespearean.

07:46:03.640 Yes.

07:46:04.040 Oh, did you say that again?

07:46:05.180 I want to be roasted.

07:46:07.140 Oh, please roast me.

07:46:08.580 Me too.

07:46:09.040 I want to get roasted.

07:46:10.580 Please raise your hand if you want to be roasted.

07:46:12.900 I would like to be roasted, please.

07:46:14.880 Why not?

07:46:15.760 Shaka, boys.

07:46:16.140 I'd like to be roasted.

07:46:17.620 Let's go, boys.

07:46:18.900 Okay.

07:46:19.620 Yo, W's in the chat for Big Sass.

07:46:21.720 We have...

07:46:22.580 Oh, this is an interesting one.

07:46:24.780 Brian's huge dumpy donated $20.

07:46:28.800 Chair one, final boss flowers.

07:46:31.880 Chair two, 304 lady boy.

07:46:34.680 I'll fix it.

07:46:35.240 Chair three, Tamu Emma Watson.

07:46:37.500 I'll take that.

07:46:37.920 Chair four, Steve Irkle.

07:46:39.920 Chair five, illegal 304.

07:46:41.780 Oh, that's me?

07:46:42.720 Oh, I love that.

07:46:43.240 Chair six, ran through thought.

07:46:45.660 Chair seven, bootleg bitties Tarzan.

07:46:48.680 Eight, Walmart Zen ship.

07:46:50.780 Walmart Zenia, it said Zenia.

07:46:53.740 Tamu Walmart Zenia.

07:46:54.940 That's not the first time someone said that.

07:46:56.120 The first one, I'll play the first part again.

07:47:02.060 Brian's huge dumpy donated $20.

07:47:05.060 Chair one, final boss rainbow.

07:47:08.160 Rainbows.

07:47:08.920 It meant to, it says it gets filtered, but it was lesbian.

07:47:14.560 What was my boss?

07:47:16.220 I ran through because I won't say the number, apparently.

07:47:19.120 That could be cool.

07:47:20.080 Maybe that's kind of a compliment.

07:47:23.420 But like, what was mine?

07:47:25.280 You were right.

07:47:26.380 Oh, they're coming.

07:47:27.180 You said if we don't say the number, they'll say we're ran through.

07:47:29.900 Donated $20.

07:47:31.760 Chair four, trust me.

07:47:33.200 It's not only your weight while you're single.

07:47:35.800 I'm from NYC and we're tired of the fake eyelashes.

07:47:39.080 I don't have fake eyelashes.

07:47:40.780 Brian, she's still ugly with all without makeup.

07:47:44.920 Okay.

07:47:45.820 Well, I'm ugly, but I'm there for the people that I care about.

07:47:49.260 And like, I have mad friends and I don't have like eyelashes.

07:47:53.140 My eyelashes are not fake at all.

07:47:54.840 Damn, Frank.

07:47:55.560 Chill, man.

07:47:58.140 She wanted to be roasted.

07:47:59.300 Someone roast me.

07:47:59.920 No, I love that though, but I want them to like say something that is actually real though.

07:48:03.880 Laugh is donated $20.

07:48:06.280 Chair six, you are so freaking hot.

07:48:08.560 I would crawl naked across broken glass just to suck the clock at the last guy to fluff you.

07:48:14.380 So can someone like hook you up with getting another pay pig?

07:48:16.940 Because it sounds like you have one.

07:48:17.860 I just broke the clock.

07:48:19.440 I don't know about that.

07:48:19.860 What is the clock?

07:48:20.560 That's insane.

07:48:23.340 You're really close to Mike.

07:48:24.360 Love that.

07:48:25.300 Next time, if I come on again, I will not wear a wig.

07:48:28.360 And I won't wear makeup either.

07:48:30.860 Thank you, Cassie.

07:48:31.720 You're welcome.

07:48:32.800 You can Google pictures of me without a wig and makeup.

07:48:35.100 I will do that.

07:48:36.020 I will do that after the show when I'm touching myself.

07:48:38.860 Oh, no.

07:48:40.920 Brian.

07:48:41.560 You're one of the dudes that I would consider a friend.

07:48:44.500 Like, I like hanging out with dudes that tell me that they fuck other girls.

07:48:48.240 I'm like, okay, how do you fuck her?

07:48:50.160 Condom or no condom?

07:48:51.880 Yeah, don't talk about that.

07:48:55.080 Oh, I'm so sad.

07:48:56.180 He's going to cry tonight.

07:48:58.220 I'm not going to cry tonight.

07:48:59.780 Brian, you're five, three, three, two, three, donated $20.

07:49:03.420 Why does chair one look like Napoleon Dynamite just went through a bad breakup?

07:49:08.740 So he dyed his hair and grew some teens.

07:49:12.280 I'm sorry, but that was actually really fucking funny.

07:49:15.640 They're funny.

07:49:16.420 They're funny.

07:49:16.780 I love a good verse.

07:49:18.000 Wait, can I ask you guys, how do you feel about wheelchair jokes?

07:49:21.620 I love wheelchair jokes.

07:49:22.360 How about it?

07:49:22.900 Fair game.

07:49:23.940 These are baddies in wheelchairs, so they're not going to get offended.

07:49:27.100 Do you know any tricks?

07:49:28.040 Can you do any tricks?

07:49:28.640 Can I see a little spin right here at the table?

07:49:33.220 I don't think it's not enough room.

07:49:34.800 Is there room?

07:49:35.780 Oh, careful there, boys.

07:49:38.140 Careful there, boys.

07:49:39.260 Oh, she's got shorts.

07:49:40.600 Hey, y'all.

07:49:42.280 Oh, look at that.

07:49:43.500 Let's go fucking wheelies.

07:49:44.920 Let's go.

07:49:46.080 Oh, yeah.

07:49:48.740 Oh, yeah.

07:49:49.620 Oh, what?

07:49:49.980 That was one of the wigs that I was going to put on.

07:49:52.080 Wait.

07:49:52.300 Oh, my God.

07:49:53.140 She has another one?

07:49:54.100 You have another one?

07:49:54.960 Yeah, I have a few because I didn't know what to do with my hair.

07:49:57.460 My hair is braided on this.

07:49:58.560 You're going to do more tricks?

07:49:59.880 Wait, is she the other side?

07:50:00.760 Oh, were you going to do?

07:50:01.300 Oh, yes.

07:50:01.820 Not her.

07:50:02.340 They can kind of see.

07:50:03.120 What are you going to do?

07:50:04.120 What do you mean?

07:50:04.500 What am I doing?

07:50:04.880 I've been sitting there.

07:50:05.600 Oh, you're just going to do it.

07:50:06.180 Yeah, she's doing it right now.

07:50:06.860 Let me see if we can.

07:50:08.200 Like, how do you balance?

07:50:09.740 Oh, wow.

07:50:10.820 I'd be scared.

07:50:11.500 It's a lot of balance.

07:50:13.420 It is.

07:50:13.660 It is.

07:50:14.100 Dude, like, I have a question.

07:50:15.940 I actually, the only viral video I have ever had is me eating shit out of my chair.

07:50:20.280 Do you guys have, like, what happens when you eat shit?

07:50:22.880 Do you have, well, me personally, I just, like, hit every bone of my body.

07:50:26.260 I mean, I still got up and got back in the chair, but yeah.

07:50:27.860 Oh, okay, okay.

07:50:28.600 Do you have a really strong core?

07:50:30.100 Because that looks like it was a total core workout.

07:50:32.220 Yeah, doesn't it?

07:50:32.880 It's more balancing than it is core.

07:50:34.320 Okay.

07:50:34.680 I have no core.

07:50:35.460 Well, core is balancing.

07:50:36.000 Yeah, this bitch can't control her core.

07:50:37.400 Half my core is paralyzed.

07:50:38.560 How the fuck did you do it?

07:50:39.800 I don't know where you guys just liked.

07:50:42.020 What?

07:50:42.320 I think that's the strongest part of my body, but, like, relative to other people.

07:50:45.360 That was a little too good job.

07:50:47.120 Oh.

07:50:47.700 They're weak.

07:50:48.280 Oh, my goodness.

07:50:49.500 We're all, like.

07:50:50.120 Good job.

07:50:50.600 Good job, dude.

07:50:51.100 We're all, like, what?

07:50:52.180 I'm proud of you, Desmond.

07:50:53.060 I'm proud of you.

07:50:54.080 I'm actually changing it to this now.

07:50:59.040 Phenomenal.

07:51:01.120 Pedro Saeed Flores.

07:51:02.340 Yo, Nikki, can I have you read this?

07:51:03.560 Because you did such a good job with the Harry Potter book.

07:51:05.460 Yeah, I want to first start off by saying my dad's dead.

07:51:08.220 Girls know what they want because dad pays for everything.

07:51:11.180 Woman, don't forget to be girls.

07:51:12.500 You can pay for things now.

07:51:14.140 You're not a little girl no more.

07:51:15.300 Well, my dad's dead, so I never had him do that.

07:51:17.320 I never had a dad.

07:51:17.720 I never had a father.

07:51:19.020 I had lesbian mothers.

07:51:21.160 I want a father.

07:51:25.140 Okay, we have this one.

07:51:26.360 Can you read this one from Shieldheart?

07:51:28.200 Oh, Jesus Christ.

07:51:29.120 Me?

07:51:29.660 Yeah.

07:51:29.880 Brian, BLM and Big Clitto for oral.

07:51:34.940 Two ladies, would you prefer to be virgin for a man you admire and want to marry?

07:51:39.920 Three, giving women oral is masculine.

07:51:42.540 It's not about a man emotionally needing sex.

07:51:44.980 Men masturbate.

07:51:45.940 Free self-control.

07:51:47.580 That's nice.

07:51:48.980 That's a lot going on there.

07:51:50.200 How much self-control do they have?

07:51:51.740 What?

07:51:52.660 Because I don't know how much self-control they have.

07:51:54.060 I don't know what you said, but thank you for whatever it was.

07:51:58.980 Oh, I think that's for one, two, three, four.

07:52:00.780 There's a question, though.

07:52:01.780 They said, ladies, would you prefer to be a virgin for the man you marry?

07:52:05.900 Yeah, we'll just do that one.

07:52:07.000 Yeah, I wish I was.

07:52:08.020 I wish I was.

07:52:08.960 No, actually, I don't care.

07:52:10.420 I wish I was.

07:52:11.020 I don't care either.

07:52:12.280 You don't regret any of the...

07:52:14.100 I would love if me and the person I married were both virgins, but it's a little late.

07:52:18.140 Everyone I've slept with, I've known personally, like growing up, or I've went to school

07:52:22.760 with them for a long time.

07:52:23.700 I've never actually had an actual hookup.

07:52:27.500 I've never hooked up with someone off Tinder or Hinge.

07:52:29.860 I've never...

07:52:30.440 No, I've never done that.

07:52:31.640 Everyone I've hooked up with is purely someone I've known for a while.

07:52:35.100 So you don't regret them?

07:52:36.160 No.

07:52:36.860 That makes sense.

07:52:39.680 Morse donated $20.

07:52:41.560 Thank you, man.

07:52:42.040 Women shouldn't wear makeup.

07:52:43.340 It's gross.

07:52:44.240 Makes them look like clowns, and it's a lie.

07:52:47.360 I absolutely hope the makeup industry fails.

07:52:50.360 Hater.

07:52:50.860 It'll never fail.

07:52:51.760 He sounds like my ex.

07:52:52.700 It's just getting better.

07:52:54.020 W's in the chat for B-Mores.

07:52:55.540 Thank you, man.

07:52:56.040 Appreciate it.

07:52:56.940 We have...

07:52:57.440 This one is a little...

07:53:00.860 Okay, fuck it.

07:53:01.860 Whatever.

07:53:02.860 Harmless common donated $19.99.

07:53:07.160 Pixie queer were normal, not tainted like her.

07:53:09.720 Rainbow cult put label.

07:53:11.160 Sisses made up fake ass from disgusting.

07:53:13.520 Leave us alone.

07:53:14.680 Go pay for more therapy.

07:53:16.380 End it all.

07:53:17.300 I use government money for my therapy.

07:53:20.500 I didn't understand that.

07:53:21.820 What's that?

07:53:23.420 Therapy in this.

07:53:24.360 Magic Mike donated $20.

07:53:26.980 Brian, get your fat butterfly in the gym, you stupid fat love.

07:53:30.820 Oh, fat ass.

07:53:31.200 Bro, he's not even fat.

07:53:33.080 I can be your savior.

07:53:34.920 His belly doesn't hang over his dick.

07:53:37.600 You can fix him, but he's the savior.

07:53:38.460 I prefer a man I can fix, actually.

07:53:41.240 Oh, wow.

07:53:42.680 I always thought that fat is when your belly hangs over your...

07:53:44.640 Yeah, I gotta lose some weight, boys.

07:53:46.000 Is it?

07:53:46.300 I gotta lose some weight, man.

07:53:47.040 No, you need to get roasted.

07:53:47.840 It was fat ass.

07:53:48.640 I can fix him.

07:53:49.460 What did I change it to?

07:53:50.700 I can fix him.

07:53:51.660 Rainbow?

07:53:52.260 Get your fat rainbow, I think it said, but it was ass.

07:53:55.280 Is rainbow just like default?

07:53:57.360 Let me see what it does.

07:53:59.920 Magic Mike donated $20.

07:54:02.580 Brian, get your fat butterfly in the gym, you stupid fat butterfly.

07:54:07.020 Jess, I can be your savior.

07:54:10.880 Thank you, Magic Mike.

07:54:11.800 Stupid fat butterfly.

07:54:12.680 God is my savior.

07:54:14.500 Oh, the bow video?

07:54:15.560 I really mean that.

07:54:16.700 Let's do that.

07:54:17.320 Okay, guys.

07:54:18.220 I took this like a year ago.

07:54:20.700 This is my ex-girlfriend, and this is what I expect.

07:54:23.920 Let's see your type.

07:54:24.960 This is what I expect in a relationship.

07:54:27.360 Go ahead and play it.

07:54:30.040 Boom.

07:54:30.520 Huge bow.

07:54:31.000 Did you see the bow?

07:54:31.700 She's got a bow.

07:54:32.260 Oh, my God.

07:54:32.960 She's got a bow.

07:54:34.520 She's Japanese, isn't she?

07:54:36.540 Wait, that's really your ex-girlfriend?

07:54:37.900 That is my ex-girlfriend, yeah.

07:54:39.800 From Okasawa.

07:54:41.060 Something like that.

07:54:41.760 Something like that, yeah.

07:54:42.560 Was this taken while you were together?

07:54:44.360 Yeah, I was like after a date podcast, it was like coming home super late, she had my

07:54:48.040 dinner ready, like cracked up a little beer for me.

07:54:49.540 She is so freaking cute.

07:54:52.040 She's adorable.

07:54:53.000 Why'd you, what did you do?

07:54:54.720 Yeah.

07:54:55.240 What did you do?

07:54:57.260 What did I do?

07:54:58.840 Yeah.

07:54:58.980 I broke up with her.

07:55:00.240 Why?

07:55:00.580 Oh, why?

07:55:01.380 Yeah.

07:55:01.940 She's so cute.

07:55:02.440 Look, the labia was too small, I just couldn't believe it.

07:55:04.900 She literally gives you everything you could want and more.

07:55:07.540 Yeah, she's Asian.

07:55:08.540 Is that really why?

07:55:09.760 Boom.

07:55:10.160 Huge bow.

07:55:10.600 Look at that technique.

07:55:11.780 Amazing.

07:55:12.840 You told her to do that, huh?

07:55:15.420 No, she did that.

07:55:16.440 Yeah, they do that.

07:55:17.160 But I've ever since.

07:55:18.260 Not their significant other.

07:55:19.260 Even if I'm like dating a white girl, like she has to bow.

07:55:22.640 How long were you guys together?

07:55:24.900 Like 69 weeks.

07:55:26.160 I wanted to do that.

07:55:27.320 Yeah.

07:55:28.100 So like a year and a couple months.

07:55:30.000 Did she speak English?

07:55:31.760 No.

07:55:32.000 No.

07:55:32.600 You could tell.

07:55:33.400 Which I liked, so we didn't have to talk.

07:55:34.860 That's the best type of relationship, honestly.

07:55:37.600 It was so good.

07:55:38.280 Like we, I could just like chill.

07:55:40.100 He's like, I just fuck, and we just don't talk about it.

07:55:41.760 She's like crying to you, and you're like not understanding.

07:55:44.240 No, it's good.

07:55:44.860 She would like, she would like try to push it.

07:55:46.220 With this technology, so.

07:55:48.240 She would try to push it in the translator, but I'd be like, babe, we don't need that.

07:55:52.080 I don't care.

07:55:53.500 Let's just watch TV, and it's all good.

07:55:56.400 Just watch my TV and suck my dick.

07:55:57.520 Put that away.

07:55:57.820 So going around the table, would you bow for your boyfriend or your partner?

07:56:04.060 Bow?

07:56:04.460 Yes.

07:56:04.640 I'm going to just do that anyways.

07:56:06.000 Like when I think bow, I'm too submissive.

07:56:08.480 I don't know if this is an appropriate question to, can you bow?

07:56:11.760 Oh, she just did it.

07:56:16.480 Well, you can get out of the chair, I guess, right?

07:56:19.120 No, you can bow sitting down.

07:56:20.360 It was just your like genuine confusion of like, fuck, maybe I should back out of this

07:56:24.460 question.

07:56:24.620 Yeah, well, I don't know.

07:56:25.720 Like.

07:56:26.700 Am I capable of bowing?

07:56:28.000 People in wheelchairs can bow.

07:56:30.080 Yeah.

07:56:30.400 I'm sorry.

07:56:30.820 It just looks stupid.

07:56:31.560 It's also just like.

07:56:32.120 Yeah.

07:56:32.280 It just, it's like you're already sitting.

07:56:36.660 You know?

07:56:37.140 You can't get much lower.

07:56:37.860 Like, it just looks like you're looking for something on the ground.

07:56:44.740 You know those pendulum birds that just like dip into water?

07:56:47.840 Yeah.

07:56:48.200 Yeah.

07:56:48.780 That's like literally all I can see like he did.

07:56:50.700 Would you bow for your boyfriend?

07:56:52.460 Yeah, I do it naturally.

07:56:53.500 I bow when I think people.

07:56:55.060 Dope.

07:56:55.400 It's just nice.

07:56:56.460 What about, would you hit a bow?

07:56:57.720 I feel like.

07:56:58.640 For a girl?

07:57:00.320 Probably not.

07:57:02.540 Would you bow for Leonardo DiCaprio?

07:57:04.220 A hundred percent.

07:57:05.420 Titanic.

07:57:05.580 Okay.

07:57:05.880 Yes.

07:57:06.800 Johnny Deo.

07:57:07.360 Would you bow for autistic billionaire black guy?

07:57:12.200 Yeah.

07:57:12.660 I identify submissive.

07:57:14.120 So if he wants that, I would do it.

07:57:15.860 Yeah.

07:57:16.080 Would you bow for a.

07:57:16.900 No, I'm too dominant.

07:57:18.680 Have you ever pegged a guy?

07:57:20.280 I want to.

07:57:22.540 Who's down?

07:57:23.460 Open up the apps.

07:57:24.880 What?

07:57:26.460 Open up, boy.

07:57:27.380 Get a new dance on Tinder?

07:57:28.460 I only want to do it because I've never done it.

07:57:30.440 And I like to experience new things.

07:57:31.600 That's what you should open a Tinder for.

07:57:32.660 Just put looking for men to peck.

07:57:34.220 Yeah.

07:57:34.760 And you're just like fully.

07:57:36.200 You're just fully clothed?

07:57:37.820 I'm very submissive.

07:57:39.360 So if it was like in the bedroom, sure.

07:57:42.980 No, it was like you're here.

07:57:44.920 He's walking home.

07:57:45.900 Yeah.

07:57:46.440 You're greeting him.

07:57:47.400 As a joke.

07:57:48.620 But no.

07:57:48.920 No, serious.

07:57:49.840 No.

07:57:50.800 Okay.

07:57:51.420 What about you?

07:57:51.980 Yeah, it's not giving.

07:57:52.440 Homegirl?

07:57:53.000 Oh, probably not.

07:57:55.460 Okay.

07:57:55.840 Nothing wrong with it.

07:57:57.920 Just not my thing.

07:57:58.980 Not in my culture.

07:57:59.500 Just not her thing.

07:58:00.160 Yeah.

07:58:00.480 Yeah.

07:58:00.800 Not in my culture.

07:58:03.040 Would you?

07:58:04.120 I mean, on the initial, I don't know.

07:58:06.240 It depends.

07:58:06.960 If an Asian man.

07:58:07.960 Yeah.

07:58:08.800 I think I would.

07:58:09.200 You should totally.

07:58:09.820 If he was the right guy, though.

07:58:11.560 I'd just have to.

07:58:12.260 I'd be selective.

07:58:13.200 It wouldn't just be everybody.

07:58:14.520 You guys would do it.

07:58:15.160 I would.

07:58:15.660 I would.

07:58:16.560 You guys would do that shit.

07:58:16.820 I would.

07:58:17.660 Like, I would if, like, it was like.

07:58:19.740 It was like a kink.

07:58:20.420 If I was with an Asian man, and they said that, like, you have to do it.

07:58:23.940 It's like his culture.

07:58:25.260 Yeah.

07:58:25.500 If it's about their culture.

07:58:26.400 Yeah.

07:58:26.520 You like Asian guys.

07:58:27.720 I'll do it.

07:58:28.300 You'll do it.

07:58:28.880 Yeah.

07:58:29.040 I guess I would, too, if it was the guy's culture, but.

07:58:31.540 Yeah, I would do it.

07:58:32.160 Yeah, I'm white.

07:58:32.760 It's definitely not my culture.

07:58:33.980 Yeah.

07:58:34.460 Would you do it?

07:58:34.960 I'm very white.

07:58:36.400 It's not mine either.

07:58:37.180 Yeah, would you bet?

07:58:37.500 No.

07:58:38.700 No.

07:58:39.380 Gosh.

07:58:39.540 Unless she's a billionaire.

07:58:42.820 Yeah.

07:58:43.180 If she's a billionaire.

07:58:44.280 If she's Taylor Swift.

07:58:44.780 She can get you on your knees, huh?

07:58:46.920 She could.

07:58:47.760 I would need a reciprocated at some point.

07:58:50.500 I wish if you could work with me.

07:58:51.660 She said, I'm a switch.

07:58:54.080 Also, my expectation on the first date.

07:58:56.240 That's my expectation on the first date.

07:58:59.140 The bow.

07:59:00.800 Yeah.

07:59:01.500 You gotta go back to Japan, Brian.

07:59:03.220 Let's see it.

07:59:03.680 Go ahead.

07:59:04.120 Come on.

07:59:04.260 You wanna see my bow?

07:59:05.280 Yeah, let's see it.

07:59:06.300 I can see my bow.

07:59:07.640 Is that your wheelchair bow?

07:59:09.140 Yeah.

07:59:09.320 You just said, no, for real.

07:59:11.360 All right.

07:59:12.040 Let's see what she's got.

07:59:14.380 Like that.

07:59:14.680 That was pretty good.

07:59:16.020 That was good.

07:59:16.340 Ace and men hit her up.

07:59:17.620 Congrats.

07:59:18.360 For real.

07:59:19.300 You're my IG.

07:59:20.400 I got you.

07:59:21.660 No, stop it.

07:59:22.840 All right.

07:59:23.280 We have this.

07:59:24.500 You ghost nine donated $20.

07:59:27.320 Chair three.

07:59:28.460 Are so nice and wholesome.

07:59:30.160 When I see you, I think of Megan Cherner.

07:59:32.900 I mean, Traynor.

07:59:34.000 That's okay.

07:59:34.340 Chair six.

07:59:35.540 Up her standards.

07:59:36.860 Are beautiful and deserve so much better.

07:59:39.040 Better dudes will come along.

07:59:41.760 Wow.

07:59:42.320 Awesome.

07:59:42.620 That was really sweet.

07:59:43.480 I'm working on it in therapy.

07:59:45.200 Aw.

07:59:46.300 You're doing great.

07:59:47.380 That was really sweet.

07:59:48.560 Double agent donated $20.

07:59:50.260 A lot of sad truckers in empty Walmart parking lots tonight with the street team busy doing

07:59:56.480 the show tonight.

07:59:57.900 Brian, we're making America great again.

08:00:00.660 The street team here works Greyhound bathrooms.

08:00:04.040 Oh.

08:00:04.700 He said that.

08:00:06.260 Well, you guys can figure it out.

08:00:08.600 Is anybody here down to just for like the memes?

08:00:11.540 Like not actually seriously?

08:00:13.560 Just show of hands, like who here voted for Kamala?

08:00:17.880 I don't vote.

08:00:18.740 I didn't vote.

08:00:19.140 I don't vote.

08:00:19.680 Yeah, I didn't vote.

08:00:19.980 Or I voted for her.

08:00:21.300 I think they're-

08:00:21.900 Yeah, I voted for Kamala.

08:00:23.160 I didn't vote.

08:00:23.680 I would have just not said anything.

08:00:24.780 Cassie?

08:00:25.340 I didn't vote.

08:00:27.060 I literally didn't get my vote in time.

08:00:29.120 I think-

08:00:29.540 So who would you vote if I voted for?

08:00:30.780 You would have voted.

08:00:31.700 You would have voted for Kamala?

08:00:32.340 You look like you Trump supporter.

08:00:34.380 No.

08:00:35.340 Not in any way.

08:00:36.260 She doesn't.

08:00:36.820 That's not what I meant.

08:00:37.320 I don't think she does.

08:00:38.100 That's not what I meant.

08:00:40.400 If-

08:00:40.960 I think like statistically, I don't look like that.

08:00:43.720 You never know.

08:00:46.840 That's how low-key how it's supposed to come out, but it didn't come out that way, y'all.

08:00:50.500 Would-

08:00:51.180 That's the first time anyone's ever told me that.

08:00:54.140 Would you put on a Make America Great Again hat?

08:00:58.280 I don't.

08:00:59.340 Sure.

08:01:00.320 Really?

08:01:00.880 For the meme.

08:01:01.640 For the meme.

08:01:02.120 A lot of guys in STEM are Trump supporters.

08:01:05.780 Oh, God.

08:01:06.620 You should have said no.

08:01:07.560 Or Kamala hat.

08:01:09.140 I would never.

08:01:09.720 No, I retract my statement.

08:01:11.080 I thought it was a hypothetical.

08:01:12.140 Legally binding.

08:01:13.180 Legally binding.

08:01:14.340 I will sue you.

08:01:15.400 Go for it.

08:01:16.180 I have a lawyer.

08:01:17.600 What?

08:01:17.740 I will sue the shit out of you if you don't put this on right now.

08:01:21.580 Have at it.

08:01:22.360 Will you put it on?

08:01:22.940 What?

08:01:23.080 Will you put it on?

08:01:23.980 Yeah.

08:01:24.980 Based.

08:01:26.160 I can't reach it.

08:01:26.960 Cassie, you also have to-

08:01:28.640 Just because I didn't vote for Kamala?

08:01:30.640 Do you want to put it on?

08:01:31.160 No, absolutely not.

08:01:31.400 Oh, I have a bow on in the back.

08:01:32.900 It's not going to fit.

08:01:33.980 No, she will.

08:01:34.980 She tried to put it on.

08:01:35.820 She tried to put it on.

08:01:37.000 Thanks, guys.

08:01:37.800 I didn't vote for Kamala because I was shaking Elon Musk's hand.

08:01:42.120 Oh, shit.

08:01:42.580 How about that?

08:01:43.460 You can smoke to Little City.

08:01:44.820 I'm good.

08:01:45.440 With my belly.

08:01:45.900 Say she's a Kamala fan?

08:01:47.400 I will give you a $2 bill if you put it on.

08:01:51.980 Sorry.

08:01:52.800 What the fuck?

08:01:54.900 Bro, damn.

08:01:55.780 Tweak him, bro.

08:01:56.940 For real.

08:01:57.800 She really hates Trump.

08:02:00.200 Pills, bro.

08:02:01.180 Oh, no.

08:02:01.500 I'm sorry.

08:02:02.300 Now you have to put it on because you fucked my shit up, bro.

08:02:05.280 What's the pills for?

08:02:06.280 The red and the blue.

08:02:07.280 It's like a symbolics of the matrix.

08:02:09.000 Symbolic of the matrix.

08:02:12.960 Sorry.

08:02:13.540 I just disagree with both.

08:02:15.900 I will.

08:02:16.420 Oh, so you don't want to be called?

08:02:17.840 Like, what are those people called?

08:02:19.120 Independent.

08:02:20.180 Independent.

08:02:20.900 Hey, yo, chat.

08:02:21.600 Cancel me.

08:02:22.140 If we do a champagne pop right now, she'll put on the hat.

08:02:26.180 And I'll give her part of the champagne pop.

08:02:28.160 What is the champagne pop?

08:02:29.040 It's $1,000 for a champagne pop.

08:02:30.000 I'll take the grand and then I'll put the hat on.

08:02:31.060 I'll give you $50.

08:02:32.780 The grand.

08:02:33.360 I'll give you $50.

08:02:34.080 Then I'm not doing it.

08:02:35.240 Dude, it's a hat for like five seconds.

08:02:37.800 You better take that $50, bro.

08:02:39.440 I'll do it for a grand.

08:02:40.100 No, it's for...

08:02:40.620 You get...

08:02:41.020 I get $950.

08:02:42.740 You get $50.

08:02:44.020 I'll split it.

08:02:44.380 I get how much?

08:02:45.120 $50.

08:02:45.240 You get $50.

08:02:46.420 Oh, fuck no.

08:02:47.360 Are you kidding?

08:02:47.720 Dude, it's just a hat.

08:02:48.780 Who's going to put on the make America great again?

08:02:51.580 It didn't say I love Trump on it.

08:02:53.380 No.

08:02:54.480 It's not like this hat even says Trump on it.

08:02:57.660 It doesn't even say it.

08:02:58.680 It literally just says that.

08:02:59.540 It's like the prisoner's dilemma.

08:03:00.600 I would say the same thing to you about a Kamala hat, though.

08:03:03.780 I've got a fucking Kamala shirt right there.

08:03:06.120 Put it on.

08:03:06.660 I wouldn't wear it.

08:03:07.740 Oh, okay.

08:03:08.140 That's fine.

08:03:08.320 Yeah, I'm saying...

08:03:09.060 I feel this way about both.

08:03:10.500 I wear any politician's hat.

08:03:11.060 Sure, I'll do it.

08:03:11.400 I'll split it.

08:03:13.000 You have to put on...

08:03:14.260 It's crazy that politicians have merch.

08:03:15.900 I need to add a couple additionals.

08:03:17.100 You agreed it was binding, right?

08:03:17.920 Hold on.

08:03:18.220 I want to hear the additions.

08:03:19.140 Hold on.

08:03:19.280 I'm excited.

08:03:20.000 So, if there's a champagne pop, I'll split it 50-50 with you.

08:03:24.960 I'll give you $500.

08:03:26.080 And, in fact, I'm taking a loss because there's PayPal fees.

08:03:29.140 So, it's not...

08:03:29.840 You get more than I even get.

08:03:31.380 I'll pay you $500, champagne pop.

08:03:34.140 Actually, wait.

08:03:34.780 Hold on.

08:03:35.080 But, like...

08:03:36.640 I'm kind of late and rude.

08:03:37.840 Nah, never mind.

08:03:39.720 Never mind.

08:03:40.280 Because somebody could, like, troll that shit.

08:03:41.600 So, anyways, whatever.

08:03:42.140 Did you vote for Trump?

08:03:43.200 Uh, yes.

08:03:45.100 I did vote for Trump.

08:03:46.160 Now...

08:03:47.020 Yeah.

08:03:47.220 I know mad people that voted for Trump.

08:03:49.460 It's crazy.

08:03:49.840 I think he's the lesser evil.

08:03:51.100 It's just, like, not...

08:03:52.900 I don't think it's as serious.

08:03:54.660 I just don't care.

08:03:55.300 I think we shouldn't have a president.

08:03:56.640 We can only be president for four more years.

08:03:59.400 No, we should just not have a president.

08:04:01.060 And, like, we should just, like, do our own shit.

08:04:03.100 But, I mean, like, here's the crazy thing.

08:04:04.580 I think people are really impressed about the abortion issue.

08:04:06.260 Like, I used to be...

08:04:06.440 And it's not going to become banned that easily.

08:04:09.480 Like, they don't realize...

08:04:10.380 But I used to be Democrat.

08:04:12.220 I used to be, like, liberal.

08:04:14.100 And then, like, started becoming more moderate.

08:04:16.400 And then, like, all the craziness.

08:04:17.960 I don't think I changed that much.

08:04:19.780 I think just, like...

08:04:20.560 The country changed.

08:04:21.720 Like, I voted for Obama.

08:04:23.840 Fire.

08:04:24.320 Twice.

08:04:24.600 Respect.

08:04:25.680 And then I'm trying to remember.

08:04:27.700 I actually...

08:04:28.140 I don't think I...

08:04:29.080 I wrote in as a joke.

08:04:30.680 This is before Kanye went off the deep end.

08:04:32.300 For 2020, I think I voted for Kanye before he went all crazy.

08:04:37.660 I just vote as a meme vote.

08:04:39.820 And then, in 2016, I don't think I voted, so...

08:04:45.580 I would vote Kanye now.

08:04:46.940 I would vote Kanye now.

08:04:47.400 I just feel like I would vote Kanye now.

08:04:48.620 That's a hot take.

08:04:49.480 I feel like you have no memes out of me, so...

08:04:51.400 Moving on.

08:04:52.040 Vote Kanye in 2025.

08:04:55.580 But, I mean, then...

08:04:58.180 Yo, I'll just say, they fucked over Bernie Sanders.

08:05:00.440 They did fuck over Bernie Sanders.

08:05:02.640 I loved Bernie Sanders.

08:05:03.940 I went to his rally.

08:05:06.180 Okay, cool.

08:05:06.600 Oh, he was a little crazy for me.

08:05:07.680 I love Bernie Sanders.

08:05:08.300 Daryl underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.

08:05:13.500 Chair one's trauma must have been with a black guy.

08:05:16.280 Oh.

08:05:16.560 Reminds me the movie White Chips.

08:05:18.340 It was definitely white.

08:05:19.080 Once you go black, you're gonna need a wheelchair.

08:05:22.120 Hashtag send God the document.

08:05:23.740 What the fuck?

08:05:24.600 The sisterhood is serious on this panel.

08:05:28.200 No.

08:05:28.420 Oh, that was a thing from that movie.

08:05:29.700 I remember that scene in the movie.

08:05:31.360 Anyways.

08:05:32.220 Oh, my God.

08:05:32.600 Terminatops, Ford donated $20.

08:05:35.020 I think I'm drunk.

08:05:35.780 Chair five, your depends as is gonna break a military man's heart.

08:05:39.960 Chair six, you're a star on prison baddies.

08:05:42.540 Chair seven, you were awesome till you said T-women are woman.

08:05:45.960 Wait, can we...

08:05:46.360 I'm still awesome.

08:05:47.440 Thank you to the VIP.

08:05:48.660 Wait, can we watch that one more time?

08:05:49.660 I wasn't listening.

08:05:50.280 I've never been arrested or gotten a ticket, so you're a liar.

08:05:53.080 Wait, can we listen to that one more time?

08:05:54.340 I didn't listen to my part.

08:05:55.380 All right.

08:05:56.460 Please.

08:05:57.480 Go ahead.

08:05:59.100 Terminatops, Ford donated $20.

08:06:01.820 Chair five, your depends as is gonna break a military man's heart.

08:06:06.000 Chair six, your...

08:06:06.900 Depends?

08:06:07.860 What?

08:06:08.300 Wait, wait, wait.

08:06:08.700 Isn't that like old people?

08:06:09.900 Aren't those diapers?

08:06:11.000 Yeah.

08:06:11.220 Are those people?

08:06:12.120 Yeah, that's what Depends is.

08:06:14.600 Am I?

08:06:14.900 Are you wearing a diaper?

08:06:15.540 Am I?

08:06:16.740 No.

08:06:17.840 I mean, does it look like it?

08:06:19.120 No, it doesn't.

08:06:20.120 I'm gonna stand up.

08:06:20.580 Do I look like I've been to prison?

08:06:22.080 You're good.

08:06:22.240 Wait, wait, what did you say?

08:06:23.860 Morris donated $20.

08:06:26.360 While I have the chance and TTS is on, brain any time some Asian chick is arguing saying

08:06:32.000 white people and alive people because they are colonizers like there was the other night,

08:06:36.200 remind them of Genghis Khan.

08:06:37.880 Oh, that's an interesting...

08:06:40.560 Who's got it?

08:06:41.560 That's an interesting thing to say.

08:06:42.700 That's interesting.

08:06:43.680 Yo, B Morris, W, I guess W's in the chat for B Morris.

08:06:46.300 Thank you for the TTS.

08:06:49.060 Laugh is donated $20.

08:06:51.600 Chair six, if you like men you can fix.

08:06:54.560 We can take turns fixing and breaking each other all day and night.

08:06:58.460 Oh no.

08:06:58.900 What did you jib yourself out of ten?

08:07:00.800 It's the tattoos.

08:07:00.920 But I would definitely give you one so many times.

08:07:04.040 What the fuck?

08:07:05.080 Yo, Blod, thank you, man.

08:07:06.500 I gave myself a seven out of ten to answer the question.

08:07:13.160 Too many women are rehabbed for broken men.

08:07:16.520 Oh boy, this one.

08:07:17.300 Katie donated $20.

08:07:19.540 I hope that the next time Brian patronizes chair four, she jumps across the table and

08:07:24.580 savagely attacks Brian out of pure blind daughter.

08:07:27.340 That's just me.

08:07:27.900 Yes.

08:07:28.380 No, I'm not the type to jump across the table.

08:07:30.900 Brian just feels inferior around a much superior autism.

08:07:32.540 Y'all need a bitch from Brooklyn.

08:07:34.900 I'm not from Brooklyn.

08:07:36.020 She's definitely the superior.

08:07:38.080 She's definitely the superior.

08:07:38.480 Mm-mm.

08:07:38.800 Autist, yeah.

08:07:40.320 I was not patronizing.

08:07:42.340 I was teasing her.

08:07:43.320 You, maybe a little bit.

08:07:44.900 Maybe a little bit.

08:07:45.700 Oh, she feels.

08:07:47.140 She seems unbothered.

08:07:48.360 But that's okay.

08:07:49.040 I can't be bothered.

08:07:50.280 It's all love.

08:07:51.000 My amygdala is fucked, so nothing bothers me.

08:07:54.900 Brian, is Desiree coming back?

08:07:56.860 Love this.

08:07:58.480 Love watching I'm here every week, Dot.

08:07:59.560 What is it?

08:08:00.080 Better watch on Lordwitch.

08:08:01.720 Change your discord.

08:08:02.960 Not trying to pay for Terran, Dot.

08:08:04.580 Happy holidays.

08:08:05.800 Happy holidays.

08:08:06.680 Also, not rude.

08:08:07.360 That's this shit kitten moth.

08:08:09.120 Yeah, Desiree not coming back.

08:08:10.960 She was, like, threatening legal shit.

08:08:12.460 Oh, no.

08:08:13.320 Just being annoying.

08:08:13.380 Like, super annoying.

08:08:14.460 And then I just blocked her on Instagram.

08:08:16.240 It was just getting annoying.

08:08:17.100 So, yeah.

08:08:17.660 No, I'm going to definitely be back.

08:08:19.980 Because I feel like this is going to get good views.

08:08:22.460 This wasn't about you.

08:08:23.740 No.

08:08:24.920 This wasn't even about you.

08:08:25.960 I'm so drunk.

08:08:26.720 I'm sorry.

08:08:28.020 I got to stop drinking.

08:08:28.780 Better to watch.

08:08:29.740 Oh, my God.

08:08:30.640 I mean, either one's good.

08:08:32.340 Twitch actually has better streaming quality.

08:08:35.260 Like, the video quality is better on Twitch.

08:08:37.320 There's, uh...

08:08:38.600 I don't know.

08:08:39.700 Either one's...

08:08:40.900 They're both fine, though.

08:08:42.700 Wait, how many?

08:08:45.080 Master Malvolent donated $20.

08:08:48.220 Brian, you want the bow.

08:08:49.880 Zip it.

08:08:50.160 But if you cannot make her kneel,

08:08:52.280 you are not truly a dominant.

08:08:54.160 What is that?

08:08:54.760 I don't even know what that means.

08:08:55.680 Wait, what did he say?

08:08:56.380 I don't even know what that means.

08:08:57.260 Like, talking about making the bow.

08:08:58.240 You want the bow.

08:08:59.320 But you can't make her kneel.

08:09:00.120 You are not truly a dominant.

08:09:02.840 I don't even know what that means.

08:09:04.100 But, like...

08:09:05.720 I mean...

08:09:06.140 So, if I do get the bow,

08:09:07.500 like, if I do get the bow,

08:09:08.820 what does that mean?

08:09:09.400 No, the kneel.

08:09:10.040 Then you're dominant.

08:09:11.500 The kneel.

08:09:12.260 If you can't get them to kneel,

08:09:13.680 then you're not truly a dominant.

08:09:14.420 If you cannot make her...

08:09:15.060 You want the bow,

08:09:16.380 but if you cannot make her kneel?

08:09:17.960 Like, on the knees.

08:09:18.720 It's like such a big deal.

08:09:19.480 Like, yeah.

08:09:20.540 I don't know if that's what...

08:09:21.980 Like, if you know, like, kneel, like...

08:09:24.160 Yeah, like, kneel, like, get down on her knees.

08:09:25.560 Talia donated $20.69.

08:09:28.560 Oh, we're gonna wrap after.

08:09:29.320 In my experience,

08:09:30.920 high body count equals

08:09:32.260 emotional baggage slash damage.

08:09:34.700 Lots of transference

08:09:36.040 from past relationships.

08:09:38.080 You're true.

08:09:38.400 Oh, you're just like.

08:09:40.820 Mentality.

08:09:41.820 W at whatever for being Ada compliant.

08:09:44.420 Hey, man.

08:09:45.020 Yo, I, uh...

08:09:46.160 We did some accommodations here.

08:09:48.260 We made it work.

08:09:49.020 You know, I'm very...

08:09:50.180 This was a very diverse panel,

08:09:53.160 and we're very...

08:09:54.400 Yeah.

08:09:54.960 Yeah.

08:09:55.640 So, uh, thank you.

08:09:56.860 Appreciate it.

08:09:57.260 It's actually this diverse.

08:09:58.920 Was that your seven?

08:10:00.180 Seven has the full touch of the tips.

08:10:02.320 Deal breaker.

08:10:02.900 I mean...

08:10:03.220 You're not wrong.

08:10:04.540 I do.

08:10:04.680 I mean, you're not wrong, I do.

08:10:04.700 I mean, Daryl underscore Frank Castle 512

08:10:06.360 donated $20.

08:10:08.360 Brian, Cardi, B, S,

08:10:10.400 Lil Rettet,

08:10:11.020 and its sisters in chair five and eight

08:10:12.880 most definitely voted for abortions.

08:10:15.180 I liked chair five

08:10:16.700 till she stood up

08:10:17.640 and saw she has no at SS.

08:10:19.800 She's having a long rainbows day.

08:10:22.980 A long what day?

08:10:24.080 Do you want to respond to it?

08:10:25.040 He said no, Alex.

08:10:25.800 You've been wanting your butt to get smaller.

08:10:26.300 I want to know what the rainbows mean.

08:10:27.760 Oh, yeah.

08:10:28.180 So, I like the Asian look,

08:10:29.800 so I'm actually on Ozempic

08:10:31.300 to lose weight

08:10:32.120 and lose my butt and my titties.

08:10:34.000 Are you actually on Ozempic?

08:10:35.560 Yes.

08:10:36.280 I'm on my seventh week,

08:10:37.500 so yes, that's why I don't have a butt.

08:10:38.480 Wait, what?

08:10:39.320 I lost my butt.

08:10:40.520 You're on Ozempic?

08:10:41.380 Yes.

08:10:42.300 You're fucking with me.

08:10:43.300 No.

08:10:43.800 Yeah, I know.

08:10:44.300 I weigh 125.

08:10:45.460 I'm trying to get to 100, so.

08:10:47.460 What?

08:10:47.940 Why are you on Ozempic?

08:10:49.140 Because I want to lose this and this.

08:10:51.740 Why?

08:10:52.540 Because I don't like it.

08:10:54.820 I want to be flat.

08:10:56.720 You're, she's, is she fucking with me?

08:10:58.200 No, she's not joking.

08:10:59.380 I give her Ozempic every Thursday.

08:11:01.060 She's the one who puts the shot inside me.

08:11:01.960 Are you guys roommates or housemates?

08:11:03.580 Yeah, yeah.

08:11:04.060 She lives with me.

08:11:04.760 Oh, all three of you?

08:11:05.560 No.

08:11:05.760 They are, we just have a podcast together.

08:11:07.700 Oh, okay.

08:11:08.580 What?

08:11:09.200 But why are you on Ozempic, lady?

08:11:11.240 Because I want to lose my butt and my titty.

08:11:13.300 That's why.

08:11:13.900 Oh my God.

08:11:15.280 Chat, what do you think about that, chat?

08:11:16.900 That's why.

08:11:17.300 Little booties matter.

08:11:18.540 Yeah, and that's why I want one.

08:11:19.880 And it's your body.

08:11:20.700 You're free to do whatever you want.

08:11:22.280 Yeah.

08:11:22.720 She's trying to, yeah.

08:11:23.700 I'm trying to game.

08:11:24.320 If you're a body, you're free to do whatever you want with that.

08:11:26.560 Nikki, can I have you read this one for me?

08:11:28.460 From personal experience, young girls love unconditionally.

08:11:32.920 Women don't.

08:11:33.620 So whether you've had a father or mother, don't forget to love unconditionally.

08:11:37.060 You never know when a prince will get his money and tell his side of life.

08:11:40.360 I always love unconditionally.

08:11:41.540 I don't think the money matters.

08:11:43.040 I agree with the first sentence.

08:11:45.120 You know what I do?

08:11:46.360 Yo, Pedro.

08:11:47.400 Thank you for the soup chat.

08:11:48.440 Debbie's in the chat for Pedro.

08:11:49.840 Thank you so much for the soup chat, man.

08:11:52.800 And then.

08:11:53.480 Seven has a full touch of the tism.

08:11:56.920 I do.

08:11:57.360 You're not wrong.

08:11:58.180 Thanks for the $20.

08:12:00.640 Yo, Rock.

08:12:01.480 Thank you for the soup chat.

08:12:02.460 Debbie's in the chat for Rock, man.

08:12:03.840 Thank you so much, man.

08:12:04.600 You're a legend.

08:12:05.620 All right, guys.

08:12:06.020 We're going to.

08:12:07.120 If there's any.

08:12:08.220 Wait, hold on.

08:12:09.540 Girl to the right.

08:12:10.560 Don't you mean the left?

08:12:11.260 Happy Jay donated $20.

08:12:13.800 Girl to the right of Brian.

08:12:15.700 Let me Uber you to OC and put you onto some real game, Mommas.

08:12:19.880 It's on the screen.

08:12:21.180 It's to the right.

08:12:22.840 Oh.

08:12:23.480 Oh, right.

08:12:24.760 Yeah.

08:12:25.520 Duh.

08:12:26.420 Wearing OC.

08:12:28.140 All right.

08:12:28.400 Yo, thank you guys so much for all those.

08:12:30.020 Okay.

08:12:31.320 We're going to wrap up the show.

08:12:32.820 If any messages come through, I'll get those in.

08:12:34.980 But we're going to wrap.

08:12:36.720 So, before I do, though, final call to action.

08:12:40.660 You do sex work.

08:12:42.860 You used to do sex work.

08:12:44.760 Years ago.

08:12:45.560 And then you do sex work.

08:12:46.920 Oh, you're totally done with sex work?

08:12:48.260 I did it for two months two years ago.

08:12:50.420 Okay.

08:12:50.580 If someone wants to get me out of it, that'd be great.

08:12:52.800 Would you guys be willing?

08:12:54.960 I'd like to see if we can use this moment as a call to action.

08:12:57.340 Would you consider, both of you, stopping sex work entirely tonight?

08:13:02.600 I would stop it for, like, a man that I got with, but I would only do it for, like, somebody that I want to pursue.

08:13:08.060 Like, because, like, otherwise, there's no point.

08:13:13.080 Get the bag.

08:13:13.720 Yeah, I would only do it if you could take care of me.

08:13:16.780 Okay, I tried.

08:13:17.540 So, anyways, Gigi.

08:13:19.240 Well played.

08:13:20.180 To the panel.

08:13:20.840 Last call.

08:13:21.360 Hit the like button, please, on your way out.

08:13:23.520 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

08:13:24.560 You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.

08:13:26.300 I appreciate that.

08:13:27.280 Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.

08:13:29.980 We couldn't do the show without your guys' patronage.

08:13:33.020 Your generosity is very much appreciated.

08:13:35.940 W in the chat to everybody who supported the show tonight and previous shows, et cetera, et cetera.

08:13:40.960 Like I said, you know, we are fan-funded.

08:13:44.520 We're not, like, doing crazy sponsorships and all that stuff.

08:13:47.200 So, appreciate all you guys who support the show.

08:13:49.520 We will be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.

08:13:52.740 Any girls who want to be on the show, DM at whatever on Instagram.

08:13:55.780 If you can make it to Santa Barbara.

08:13:58.120 We're going to do a Twitch raid.

08:14:01.700 Let me see who we're going to raid.

08:14:03.320 Oh, we got one sec, guys.

08:14:06.420 I'll get that.

08:14:09.580 We're going to get the Twitch raid going.

08:14:10.960 WhateverSimp donated $20 Australian dollars.

08:14:14.400 Brian and Andrew are the OG.

08:14:16.460 Yo, thank you so much for the Australian $20.

08:14:18.740 W's in the chat for WhateverSimp.

08:14:20.720 Thank you so much, man.

08:14:21.740 I do really appreciate it.

08:14:22.740 Thank you.

08:14:23.000 Thank you.

08:14:24.320 We have any final thoughts or any final things from any of the panelists here before we wrap up?

08:14:29.340 Thank you for having me on the podcast.

08:14:31.580 Thank you for coming.

08:14:32.320 Yeah, thank you.

08:14:32.960 Yeah, thank you for having me.

08:14:34.640 It was such a good time.

08:14:35.640 Thanks for the cold pizza.

08:14:37.200 You are so welcome.

08:14:39.160 It was probably the best cold pizza you ever had.

08:14:41.060 It actually was really good.

08:14:42.400 It was good.

08:14:43.060 Pizza is good cold.

08:14:45.420 I like it cold.

08:14:45.800 Do you guys prefer pizza?

08:14:47.140 How about disregarding the cold thing?

08:14:50.020 Do you prefer like fresh pizza or do you prefer pizza that's been refrigerated like a day and then microwaved?

08:14:55.900 I like not microwaved.

08:14:57.400 You put it either in the oven or the air fryer.

08:14:59.420 I kind of sometimes feel like pizza can taste better after it's been microwaved.

08:15:03.700 I don't know.

08:15:04.360 I like thin, crunchy, fresh pizza.

08:15:08.140 Yeah.

08:15:09.060 Nice.

08:15:09.580 Okay.

08:15:10.180 Ampy.

08:15:10.580 We're going to do a raid for Ampy if you can get him pulled up.

08:15:14.440 Let's do that over there on Twitch.

08:15:16.960 Guys, thank you for watching on Twitch.

08:15:18.520 Really appreciate it.

08:15:19.940 Ampy.

08:15:20.280 Holy shit.

08:15:20.800 He's got a face cam.

08:15:22.000 I've never seen him with a fucking face cam.

08:15:23.940 This is insane, dude.

08:15:25.760 What level is he?

08:15:27.480 He's 55.

08:15:28.640 Guys, so wait.

08:15:29.460 Is this World of Warcraft?

08:15:30.280 What is this game?

08:15:31.420 55.

08:15:32.200 Okay, so this is crazy, guys.

08:15:33.380 So Ampy, he's playing hardcore.

08:15:35.240 He's not sleeping until he gets to level 60.

08:15:40.560 He's never had face cam.

08:15:42.040 That's wild.

08:15:43.880 So Ampy, he's like great player.

08:15:48.580 Top tier player.

08:15:49.180 And he unfortunately, World of Warcraft, the new realms just launched.

08:15:54.600 And they launched hardcore.

08:15:56.240 Could you lower it just a little bit?

08:15:57.520 They launched hardcore realms.

08:15:59.840 And he was going to be world first 60 on hardcore.

08:16:03.040 And he was like grinding on his mage.

08:16:04.880 He slept like something like just a few hours over the course of, I don't know, a couple days.

08:16:09.940 And then he died at, I think, at 54, 55.

08:16:13.420 He's right back where he was before he died.

08:16:16.520 And so what happens is if you die in hardcore, that's it.

08:16:20.460 Like if you die on the character, you can't respawn.

08:16:23.820 Like it's over.

08:16:25.620 And he put in, I don't know, I don't know how much time he played.

08:16:28.880 Can I be a part of his guild?

08:16:30.520 Sure.

08:16:31.200 Okay.

08:16:31.700 What level is he at right now?

08:16:33.320 He's at 55.

08:16:34.400 The max level is 60.

08:16:35.740 He's speed running it.

08:16:38.600 So, guys, he is playing hardcore on, I don't know the realm name, but he's playing hardcore

08:16:44.360 World of Warcraft, classic, playing an undead mage.

08:16:48.560 Go show him some love, guys.

08:16:50.180 Go tell him if he, um.

08:16:53.320 Huh.

08:16:54.060 Should we donate something?

08:16:54.740 Tell him to like die and we'll donate $1,000.

08:16:57.780 How much should we do?

08:16:58.720 That'd be crazy.

08:16:59.540 I'm watching.

08:17:00.400 Yo, chat, what should we, I don't think, he probably wouldn't do it.

08:17:03.740 I don't think he would do it for $1,000.

08:17:06.380 He's pretty close, too.

08:17:07.340 He's probably making money.

08:17:08.220 Nah, just tell him, um.

08:17:10.340 He'll get his dick sucked.

08:17:11.140 I don't know, whatever.

08:17:12.000 I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.

08:17:13.200 Hey, he has a girlfriend, bro.

08:17:14.960 I know.

08:17:15.660 No, actually, he's engaged.

08:17:16.660 Then she'll do it, yeah.

08:17:17.480 I think he's engaged.

08:17:18.780 He just got engaged to his girlfriend.

08:17:20.300 That's crazy.

08:17:21.220 Congrats.

08:17:21.540 Congratulations.

08:17:22.740 Does gaming make good money?

08:17:24.160 Congrats.

08:17:24.760 Yes.

08:17:24.940 What's that?

08:17:25.360 Yes, it does.

08:17:26.340 Really good money.

08:17:26.980 Yeah.

08:17:27.280 Yeah.

08:17:27.600 Yes.

08:17:27.960 All right, guys, so I'm going to send the raid over here.

08:17:32.460 It's going in 10 seconds.

08:17:34.820 Dude.

08:17:35.740 Look at that.

08:17:36.380 AOE farming.

08:17:37.620 Cone of cold.

08:17:39.000 What's he going to do?

08:17:40.320 What's he going to do?

08:17:41.000 Let's see.

08:17:42.380 I don't even know.

08:17:43.140 Arcane explosion.

08:17:44.340 Boom.

08:17:44.760 Oh, clear casting.

08:17:45.900 Boom.

08:17:46.700 Cone of cold.

08:17:47.320 Arcane explosion.

08:17:49.160 Ooh, he's low.

08:17:49.800 He's below 50% health.

08:17:51.580 Imagine he gets one tapped while we're watching him.

08:17:53.500 Oh, my God.

08:17:54.960 He disconnected.

08:17:55.880 He died when he died the first time.

08:17:58.160 Okay.

08:17:58.720 Look at all that loot.

08:17:59.800 Sweet.

08:18:00.100 Okay, guys.

08:18:00.480 Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.

08:18:01.600 I'm going to send the raid over right now.

08:18:03.920 Hope you guys have a good night.

08:18:05.280 Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.

08:18:07.040 All right.

08:18:08.600 Boom.

08:18:09.120 Sent.

08:18:12.460 Okay.

08:18:15.780 Wait, Brian, are you a nerd?

08:18:17.700 Yes.

08:18:18.700 Oh, okay.

08:18:19.700 We could be definitely could be friends.

08:18:21.480 Oh, he probably has notifications turned off.

08:18:23.640 I think.

08:18:25.020 I would assume he has notifications.

08:18:26.080 Brian, do you have a chance?

08:18:27.040 Oh, there it is.

08:18:27.500 Whatever's rating.

08:18:28.060 Whatever's rating.

08:18:28.900 No, I just like playing video games.

08:18:35.580 Okay, he's going to do another pull.

08:18:38.640 Yo, leave it to the raid, bro.

08:18:40.800 He's on Twitch.

08:18:41.180 He's locked in, boys.

08:18:41.960 He's locked in.

08:18:42.640 Big pull.

08:18:43.120 How long does one level usually take?

08:18:45.640 Is Asmongold also on right now?

08:18:48.120 As you get higher, it takes longer.

08:18:49.440 He's also like AoE farming as a mage, so that's like pretty quick, but it depends on your

08:18:53.740 class.

08:18:54.440 I'm not dying.

08:18:55.140 Your knowledge.

08:18:57.680 Nobody's dying.

08:18:58.280 About how long will it take him to get to 60?

08:19:01.020 How long is this going to take?

08:19:01.920 Oh, no.

08:19:02.420 We're not going to watch it.

08:19:03.360 No.

08:19:04.280 How long?

08:19:04.820 You said he's not sleeping until level 60.

08:19:07.040 Oh, he's probably going to be up.

08:19:07.980 I want to say it's going to take, for him at this point, two hours per level, so he's

08:19:12.280 probably going to be playing for another 10 hours.

08:19:14.160 Wow.

08:19:14.820 Poor boy.

08:19:15.960 Probably another 10 years.

08:19:16.700 I've literally never played a video game.

08:19:18.160 Do you know?

08:19:18.440 I play with Zachary, which is Asmongold on YouTube.

08:19:24.220 I've never played video games.

08:19:26.460 We're literally about 10.

08:19:28.160 Honestly, you're not going to like it.

08:19:30.520 All right.

08:19:31.040 No.

08:19:31.500 There's no other chats.

08:19:33.160 Okay, cool.

08:19:33.940 All right, guys.

08:19:34.500 Like the video, please, on your way out.

08:19:37.560 Let me just see it.

08:19:38.400 Nope.

08:19:39.020 That's it.

08:19:39.680 Everything done.

08:19:41.320 Okay, guys.

08:19:41.800 And please follow me on YouTube at chocolateautizzi at youtube.com.

08:19:45.980 Chocolateautizzi.

08:19:46.640 That's so cute.

08:19:47.300 That's right.

08:19:47.580 I love it.

08:19:48.240 That is cute.

08:19:48.720 Thank you.

08:19:49.180 All right, guys.

08:19:50.360 07s.

08:19:50.980 07s in the chat.

08:19:52.020 Good night, guys.

08:19:52.840 We will see you Sunday.

08:19:54.340 Good night, guys.

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Whatever Podcast - December 04, 2024

ONLY 4 SHOWS LEFT？ She USES Men？! FEMCEL？ CHARGING For Dates？! Wheelchair Dating! ｜ Dating Talk #218

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